Obama's DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson: The Democrats' Immigration Rhetoric Is Essentially a Declaration of Open Borders Which Would Cause Mass Illegal Immigration to Explode

Well, yes. But they see this as a good thing.

And they're not bringing in all those illegals to have them not vote in elections.

These are millions of Democrats For Life we're talking here -- never let a crisis go to waste.

An Obama-era Department of Homeland Security chief is warning Democratic presidential candidates to cool their push to decriminalize illegal border crossings, saying such a move would be tantamount to "open borders" policy and lead to hundreds of thousands more people flooding into the U.S. every month.
"That is tantamount to declaring publicly that we have open borders," Jeh Johnson told The Washington Post.

"That is unworkable, unwise and does not have the support of a majority of American people or the Congress, and if we had such a policy, instead of 100,000 apprehensions a month, it will be multiples of that," he said.

Meanwhile, Trump says he is "very seriously" considering using an executive order to put the citizenship question back on the census questionnaire.

Pen and a phone -- catch the fever!

Meanwhile, AllahPundit, writing for what absurdly calls itself a "news and opinion from a conservative viewpoint," actually manages to take this story and turn it into a "BOTH SIDES!" slam on the Republicans as well.

This feels like a Republican debating point come to life. You can imagine Trump saying, "Democrats have moved so far left on immigration, even the Obama people would be shocked!"
But it's not a hypothetical. The Obama people, specifically the head of Homeland Security under O, are actually shocked at how nutty their party has become on this issue in just a few years.

Holocaust survivor to AOC: You deserve a Nobel Prize in stupidity
This is the curse of both sides now, it seems -- to lament the radicalism of the current administration when the other party's in charge, only to find afterward that the next administration is prepared to go much further.

Democrats are for open borders, Republicans are for having a border -- BOTH SIDES are "extreme," you see, and we need a reasonable moderate like AllahPundit to lecture us like a whitebread Obama.

AllahPundit is a dishonest defender of the Bush/Business Cadre consensus -- we don't want to have actual border enforcement, but we also don't want to admit we're in favor of Open Borders because we have to trick the rubes.

So we'll pretend we're in favor of the border generally while objecting to every specific measure or proposal to enforce it.

Their opposition to open borders is purely rhetorical; they just don't want you to call it open borders, so they can continue playing the game of, "Of course I support the idea of the border, but only the idea of it. Any attempt to make it tangible and enforceable in the real world is just ethnonatitonalist, white supremacist extremism. But you can pretend there's a border, just as you can pretend the GOP is a pro-life party in its leadership ranks.

"In our boundless generosity, we will allow you the privilege of pretending that we're allied with you on key issues. But the moment you notice we're actually opposed to you on these principles, you're an Alt-Right Nazi who must be deplatformed."

Mwah! C'est magnifique!

You know, if someone claims he's against government spending, but then bewails every single proposal to cut spending as "cruel" and "extreme," you might begin to suspect that that person isn't actually in favor of cutting spending, but simply finds it useful to claim to be such.

And for those Johnny Come Latelys who now pretend that they're ultra-conservative for pushing for cutting spending: Where were you guys when Rand Paul proposed cutting spending by 10% across the board? Did you deem that to be "too extreme," too? Did you once again pretend at being in favor of reduced spending while, get this!, finding yet another excuse to oppose a proposal for actually cutting spending?

Here's your Vocab Builder Political Word of the Day:

velleity
vel-le-i-ty
noun FORMAL

a wish or inclination not strong enough to lead to action.

Another definition calls this "the weakest form of volition (a desire) that could still be characterized as volition at all."

So, the True Conservatives have a velleity in favor of enforcing the border, as long as any enforcement never detain, deport, or inconvenience a single illegal immigrant. Ever.

Ev-er.

Oddly enough, this looks a lot like Obama's immigration policy, except with even fewer deportations.

Same for cutting spending, same for curbing abortion.

Oddly enough, this looks a lot like Obama's positions on cutting spending and curbing abortion.

I guess that's all just a coincidence, though.

The Fake Conservatives have a lot of velleities they claim to be champions of, but whenever someone proposes actual action to advance them, suddenly they are just full of caveats and cavils.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 06:52 PM

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1 New thread smell!

Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 05, 2019 06:53 PM (I/iGu)

2 LOLGF

Posted by: Archer at July 05, 2019 06:54 PM (RgTRz)

3 What the hell happened to Allahpundit?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 05, 2019 06:54 PM (O2RFr)

4 AllahPundit, no doubt, tucks it under too.

Posted by: Archer at July 05, 2019 06:55 PM (RgTRz)

5 Who is this Allahpundit loon and why is he/she/xe/xer still in business?

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at July 05, 2019 06:56 PM (TkuZ0)

6 I'm told that I should pay $12k year in property taxes to ensure the kids of illegal aliens get a top-shelf education.

I say adios.

Posted by: Regular joe at July 05, 2019 06:56 PM (6/uwW)

7 This ain't a feature nor a bug. It's an operating system!

Posted by: Delaforce at July 05, 2019 06:57 PM (mE05v)

8 Things that make you go himmmm. . .

Roberts goes to Malta to hide out
Mifsud is Maltese
Buttigieg is a common Maltese name.

Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2019 06:57 PM (AwPyG)

9

Open leg borders are good! Spread em wide!

Posted by: Dick Hat at July 05, 2019 06:57 PM (jsQkY)

10 Hot Gas is a shit parade of mental deficients and assholes.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 05, 2019 06:57 PM (nDe2U)

11 shoulda knowed y'all snuck off to a new thread without so much as a bye yer nood

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at July 05, 2019 06:59 PM (dm05u)

12 It's not open borders open borders!

Posted by: G marks the spot at July 05, 2019 06:59 PM (bKezI)

13 I think Trump has been too deferential to the judiciary. If Obama can make an Executive Order, Trump can undo that same Executive Order. Roberts can go fuck himself.

I think 2020 will be like 1988 for Democrats in that they finally dropped being against capital punishment, at least publicly. They even had Clinton execute a retard as Governor to show that. Dukakis lost a landslide over the issue.

2020 will probably be when Democrats go back to pretending to want border enforcement again after they get shellacked. Even people like Schumer USED to sound reasonable on this.

Posted by: Raven at July 05, 2019 06:59 PM (6RfEx)

14 Hot Gas must be running on fumes these days.

Posted by: Regular joe at July 05, 2019 06:59 PM (6/uwW)

15 If we have no border, we have no sovereignty. Then we are no longer a Nation but a collection of city-states using the rural areas to keep the failed cities afloat.
Buy more ammo.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 05, 2019 06:59 PM (axyOa)

16 Can the president use an executive order to close the border?

Posted by: Cheriebebe at July 05, 2019 07:00 PM (a4qVe)

17 The Left has No-Borderline Personality Disorder.

Posted by: zombie at July 05, 2019 07:01 PM (oFcdC)

18 6 Can the president use an executive order to close the border?

Not with me around

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at July 05, 2019 07:01 PM (O2RFr)

19 The Virtue Signaling is strong with this one, Obi Won.

Posted by: Czech Chick at July 05, 2019 07:01 PM (J9wxX)

20 fence fighting is a basic defensive art

Posted by: Shih Tzu Bark of Grr at July 05, 2019 07:01 PM (dm05u)

21 Hot Gas must be running on fumes these days.
Posted by: Regular joe at July 05, 2019 06:59 PM (6/uwW)

It's just dieseling.

Get ready for the Uncle Buck exhaust pipe explosion.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 05, 2019 07:02 PM (xPJvm)

22 I don't get Allahpundit's game. He can't be so stupid as to actually believe what he's saying.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at July 05, 2019 07:02 PM (hjaPQ)

23 This can not be popular--can it?

Posted by: Axeman at July 05, 2019 07:02 PM (YOhRS)

24 Yay, my dinner has arrived; Italian beef sammich and fries!!! Yummy!!!

Posted by: Cheriebebe at July 05, 2019 07:03 PM (a4qVe)

25 Sword fighting > Fence fighting

Posted by: Mayor Buttplug at July 05, 2019 07:03 PM (nDe2U)

26 I didn't believe the left until Trump ordered a mass movement of the tanks from the mall to the border. Operation Biglyation.

Laurence Tribe wet his pants.

Posted by: pep at July 05, 2019 07:03 PM (T6t7i)

27 Open borders, allowing populations to un-naturally increase in some states, and no citizenship question on the instrument used to apportion Congressional seats (and therefore, Electoral Votes) based on population. What could go wrong?

Posted by: Gref at July 05, 2019 07:03 PM (AMIL/)

28 I don't get Allahpundit's game. He can't be so stupid as to actually believe what he's saying.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at July 05, 2019 07:02 PM (hjaPQ)

The same thing can be said of the entire left.

Posted by: DR.WTF at July 05, 2019 07:03 PM (aS1PU)

29 i would rather talk about the finer points of shelving. i love the sweet peace a level, well anchored, shelf will bring. nirvana.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 05, 2019 07:03 PM (KP5rU)

30 allahpundit lost me YEARS ago.

Meanwhile, DJT... Just Do It! Sign the order.

Posted by: Harlan at July 05, 2019 07:03 PM (suaaH)

31 Roberts goes to Malta to hide out
Mifsud is Maltese
Buttigieg is a common Maltese name.

This is very interesting and I would line to subscribe to your newsletter

Posted by: Rachel Maddow at July 05, 2019 07:03 PM (tPjmG)

32 Allahpundit might wear a dress to get on The View

Posted by: Jean at July 05, 2019 07:03 PM (25Dt7)

33 Can the president use an executive order to close the border?

Not with me around
Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at July 05, 2019 07:01 PM

****

Absolutely no truth to the rumor that PDT gave the Norks precise geolocation of said judge. You know, for the next "false alarm."

Posted by: Diogenes at July 05, 2019 07:03 PM (axyOa)

34 22 I don't get Allahpundit's game. He can't be so stupid as to actually believe what he's saying.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at July 05, 2019 07:02 PM (hjaPQ)

Allahpup is a mutt that barks what his master says or he gets no kibble

Posted by: Shih Tzu Bark of Grr at July 05, 2019 07:03 PM (dm05u)

35 So we'll pretend we're in favor of the border generally while objecting to every specific measure or proposal to enforce it.

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dude, it's a virtual fence. We'll watch them cross and then, um, maybe have them go before a ALJ who will let them, and their extended families, stay indefinitely.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at July 05, 2019 07:03 PM (JziUy)

36 Hmm, would I prefer someone stabbing me in the back or someone stabbing me in the front?

Gosh, I think I prefer someone who comes at me and let's me know exactly what they're trying to do so I can at least try to avoid the consequences of their actions.

Whereas the GOPe wants to smile and pat me on the back to distract me as I get knifed, repeatedly....

Posted by: blake - my preferred pronoun is: Pronoun! at July 05, 2019 07:04 PM (WEBkv)

37
No wonder it's impossible to buy The Camp of the Saints nowadays.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2019 07:04 PM (Wx/+I)

38 Anyone know where to find a long term Alexa rank data? I'd love to see HotAir's rise and fall in graph form for shits and giggles.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 05, 2019 07:04 PM (I/iGu)

39 24; italian beef kicks major ass. the best.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 05, 2019 07:04 PM (KP5rU)

40 I get Spanish discount tire ads on the main page. ..donde es El bano, my rapido!

Posted by: A dude in MI at July 05, 2019 07:04 PM (HQx/J)

41 Can the president use an executive order to close the border?
Posted by: Cheriebebe at July 05, 2019 07:00 PM (a4qVe)
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It is easily a thing that a 18th-to-early-20th-century president could have done. It's the type of thing that Executive Emergency was created for.

Posted by: Axeman at July 05, 2019 07:04 PM (YOhRS)

42 Allahpundit was like milky glutes and ponytail fatass, a liberal who got scared by Islam in 2001 because Islam isn't a liberal faith. For awhile these liberals made common cause with conservatives by pointing out just how brutal Islam is.

But they always had in the back of their mind that Christianity (in its conservative form) is almost as brutal (which it isn't). So as the years went by and no further 9/11s were happening here, they drifted back to where they'd started.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 05, 2019 07:04 PM (ykYG2)

43
dude, it's a virtual fence

==

those only work with electronic collars

Posted by: Shih Tzu Bark of Grr at July 05, 2019 07:05 PM (dm05u)

44 Can Trump write an Executive Order naming the homes of open borders judges and Congressional members to become immigrant detention facilities?

Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 05, 2019 07:05 PM (9LIpg)

45 31 Roberts goes to Malta to hide out

Mifsud is Maltese

Buttigieg is a common Maltese name.

Malta is a dagger pointed at the heart of Monaco.

Posted by: pep at July 05, 2019 07:05 PM (T6t7i)

46 You are correct mr. hugo

Posted by: Cheriebebe at July 05, 2019 07:05 PM (a4qVe)

47 32 Allahpundit might wear a dress to get on The View
Posted by: Jean at July 05, 2019 07:03 PM (25Dt7)
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I thought Allahpudnutz had crossed that bridge long ago. Or am I mistaking his skirt for a dress?

Posted by: blake - my preferred pronoun is: Pronoun! at July 05, 2019 07:05 PM (WEBkv)

48 I'm told that I should pay $12k year in property taxes to ensure the kids of illegal aliens get a top-shelf education.

I say adios.

Posted by: Regular joe at July 05, 2019 06:56 PM (6/uwW)

Everybody needs to set up a small corporation and run all their expenses through it, the goal being to pay no taxes whatsoever.

Time to stop paying for this failed state. Use the savings for guns, ammo and sabotage.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy - 5,000 more rounds of ammo just found a new home at July 05, 2019 07:05 PM (WGL1r)

49 46; now, i'm hungry!

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 05, 2019 07:06 PM (KP5rU)

50 Open borders.

Oxymoron.

Honk. honk.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 05, 2019 07:06 PM (Z+IKu)

51 Whereas the GOPe wants to smile and pat me on the back to distract me as I get knifed, repeatedly....

Posted by: blake - my preferred pronoun is: Pronoun!

You know who else didn't like getting a knife in the back?

Posted by: pep at July 05, 2019 07:06 PM (T6t7i)

52
Mass open borders with all those young men from Central America is essentially conscription for AntiFa.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2019 07:07 PM (zBaqJ)

53 It's disturbing to realize that the same Sh*tholians who can't figure out how to pee in a toilet can use a voting machine no problemo.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. at July 05, 2019 07:07 PM (rKs0r)

54 No wonder it's impossible to buy The Camp of the Saints nowadays.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2019 07:04 PM (Wx/+I)
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I have a copy. I will sell it to you for ONE MEELLION Dollars!

Seriously, though, I remember tossing it aside with a "meh." Little did I know.

Posted by: blake - my preferred pronoun is: Pronoun! at July 05, 2019 07:07 PM (WEBkv)

55 dude, it's a virtual fence

==

those only work with electronic collars
Posted by: Shih Tzu Bark of Grr

But who will collar the undocumented?

- Updated Aesop's Fable

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 05, 2019 07:07 PM (+y/Ru)

56 You know who else didn't like getting a knife in the back?

Posted by: pep at July 05, 2019 07:06 PM (T6t7i)
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Or a bomb in a bunker.

Posted by: Axeman at July 05, 2019 07:07 PM (YOhRS)

57 > Roberts goes to Malta to hide out

> Mifsud is Maltese

> Buttigieg is a common Maltese name.
Malta will sell you citizenship for cash on the barrel-head.
Could be very handy if you contemplate needing to flee the country at some point.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 05, 2019 07:07 PM (JUUk1)

58 *cuts sammich in half and pushes it thru usb at mr. hugo*

Posted by: Cheriebebe at July 05, 2019 07:07 PM (a4qVe)

59 no link to the AllahPundit story?

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 05, 2019 07:08 PM (x0QRy)

60 Think I'll go do something else while sipping on whiskey and coke. Catch y'all on the ONT.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy - 5,000 more rounds of ammo just found a new home at July 05, 2019 07:08 PM (WGL1r)

61 italian beef kicks major ass. the best.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 05, 2019 07:04 PM (KP5rU)

absolutely true!

Posted by: Cleopatra at July 05, 2019 07:08 PM (AMIL/)

62 Jeh.

Rhymes with Meh.

Heh.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 05, 2019 07:08 PM (xPJvm)

63 >>>59 no link to the AllahPundit story?

nah

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:08 PM (PbpT7)

64 57 > Roberts goes to Malta to hide out

> Mifsud is Maltese

> Buttigieg is a common Maltese name.
Malta will sell you citizenship for cash on the barrel-head.
Could be very handy if you contemplate needing to flee the country at some point.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 05, 2019 07:07 PM (JUUk1)

Maltesers = Brit chocolate malted milk balls.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2019 07:08 PM (zBaqJ)

65 You know who else didn't like getting a knife in the back?
Posted by: pep at July 05, 2019 07:06 PM (T6t7i)
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Yeah, and I seem to recall there were some serious consequences. Death being one of them, as I recall.

Posted by: blake - my preferred pronoun is: Pronoun! at July 05, 2019 07:09 PM (WEBkv)

66 60
Think I'll go do something else while sipping on whiskey and coke. Catch y'all on the ONT.

Why on earth would you do that to good whiskey? And if you're not drinking good whiskey, why bother?

Posted by: pep at July 05, 2019 07:09 PM (T6t7i)

67 >>>28 I don't get Allahpundit's game. He can't be so stupid as to actually believe what he's saying.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at July 05, 2019 07:02 PM (hjaPQ)

The same thing can be said of the entire left.
Posted by: DR.WTF at July 05, 2019 07:03 PM (aS1PU)

___________

Its pretty simple. I hate Trump and I hate you Trump voters b/c me and the bois had a great grit going and now its ruined because Trump made everyone notice how the only issue I'll actually fight and die on is which Muslim country you should invade next.

I mean I won't fight and die in the war, but I will die fighting metaphorically to get that war started!!!

Posted by: Allah Pundit at July 05, 2019 07:09 PM (aqpW6)

68 Time to go check on those Filipino ladies.

Posted by: Claude at July 05, 2019 07:09 PM (ibCu/)

69 62 Jeh.

Rhymes with Meh.

Heh.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 05, 2019 07:08 PM (xPJvm)

Feh...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2019 07:09 PM (zBaqJ)

70 58: i am forever grateful. enjoy!

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 05, 2019 07:09 PM (KP5rU)

71 > It's disturbing to realize that the same Sh*tholians who can't figure
out how to pee in a toilet can use a voting machine no problemo.

Not to worry. There'll be an ACORN volunteer there to help them figure it out.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 05, 2019 07:09 PM (JUUk1)

72 It's not about illegals voting. It's about packing Democratic districts with illegals just before a census that, ideally for Democrats, won't be asking any citizenship questions.

End result: a number of shiny new Democratic representatives in targeted blue states, and an increase in the number of electoral votes.

Posted by: MW at July 05, 2019 07:09 PM (hNTtn)

73 Did Jeh really say that? I always took him to be a good Leftist soldier never to step out of line. Guess I am wrong or he didn't get the memo.

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2019 07:09 PM (BbGew)

74
Rhymes with Meh.

Mehbe, mehbe not.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2019 07:09 PM (Wx/+I)

75 72 It's not about illegals voting. It's about packing Democratic districts with illegals just before a census that, ideally for Democrats, won't be asking any citizenship questions.

End result: a number of shiny new Democratic representatives in targeted blue states, and an increase in the number of electoral votes.
Posted by: MW at July 05, 2019 07:09 PM (hNTtn)

If the infection goes unchecked in Texas and/or Florida, goodnight forever to the republic.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2019 07:10 PM (zBaqJ)

76 You know, if someone claims he's against government spending, but then bewails every single proposal to cut spending as "cruel" and "extreme," you might begin to suspect that that person isn't actually in favor of cutting spending, but simply finds it useful to claim to be such.
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Ah, yes, the Allahpundit I remember.

Posted by: Axeman at July 05, 2019 07:10 PM (YOhRS)

77 When the Democrats are more radical than an Obama cabinet member, maybe they need to dial it back a notch.

Posted by: rickl at July 05, 2019 07:10 PM (sdi6R)

78 Trump's unforgiveable sin is hauling into the light that all the promises the GOP made for decades were lies.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at July 05, 2019 07:10 PM (GbPPJ)

79 >>>Its pretty simple. I hate Trump and I hate you Trump voters b/c me and the bois had a great grit going and now its ruined because Trump made everyone notice how the only issue I'll actually fight and die on is which Muslim country you should invade next.

I mean I won't fight and die in the war, but I will die fighting metaphorically to get that war started!!!
Posted by: Allah Pundit at July 05, 2019 07:09 PM (aqpW6)

________

HEY - Watch it chump. Not all Muslim countries - Invading Russia or China is cool too!

Posted by: Bill Kristol at July 05, 2019 07:10 PM (aqpW6)

80 Maybe, just maybe Jeh sees what illegal immigration does to minorities, that is totally take away jobs from them.

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2019 07:11 PM (BbGew)

81 73 Did Jeh really say that? I always took him to be a good Leftist soldier never to step out of line. Guess I am wrong or he didn't get the memo.
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2019 07:09 PM (BbGew)

He may have said it more as a boast than as a warning. Everything is out in the open these days with the commies.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2019 07:11 PM (zBaqJ)

82 3 What the hell happened to Allahpundit?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 05, 2019 06:54 PM (O2RFr)

Must be a new girlfriend.

Posted by: Fox2! at July 05, 2019 07:11 PM (MwFQu)

83 El caso conservador de las fronteras abiertas.

Posted by: ShainS -- There are but two Parties now: Traitors and Patriots at July 05, 2019 07:12 PM (NYdzi)

84 Did Jeh really say that? I always took him to be a good Leftist soldier never to step out of line. Guess I am wrong or he didn't get the memo.
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2019 07:09 PM (BbGew)
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He definitely has said it. And he's come on no lack of Fox shows to say it.

Johnson seems to me to be genuinely interested in solving the problem, even if he probably favors a DACA path.

Posted by: Axeman at July 05, 2019 07:12 PM (YOhRS)

85 Did the SCOTUS decision really say that Commerce had the power to put the question on the census, but not if they did so with bad intent?

How do adults supposedly versed in the law establish a 'depraved heart' standard on Executive Power? Is it legal authority or not? Who decides what's in someone's mind at the time? And how the fuck are we supposed to know how many citizens there are if we can't ask? It effectively becomes automatic citizenship for as many people as want to show up.

And the fact that state governments now have incentive to subvert federal law to steal representation and public funds is never even addressed.

Probably one of the worst SCOTUS decisions in its' history..

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2019 07:12 PM (oVJmc)

86 this all sucks generally but i cant help but smile a little bit at Ace finally realizing the deal with AP

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 05, 2019 07:12 PM (6S4b0)

87 this question of what is trump's unforegiveable crime could be a thread in itself.

is it poosy
is it shithole
is it mexicans are bad
is it just normal DNC hate-on-command
is it he fights
is it he looks funny

Posted by: Keto not Beto at July 05, 2019 07:12 PM (JziUy)

88
Wouldn't it be terrible if Allahpundit was doxxed to some radical imam, who issues a fatwa for using the word Allah?

Terrible.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2019 07:13 PM (zBaqJ)

89 LT. Colonel Allen West is running for the Chair of the Texas Republican Party.

He will be the new head of the R party in TX.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2019 07:13 PM (TDEVx)

90 allahpundit is really colon crapperdick. nice hair, fuckball! oh, your shoes look like you stepped in donkey shit! go forth, and annoy, asshole!

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 05, 2019 07:13 PM (KP5rU)

91 Can someone please tell me who Allahpundit is, as in his real name?

I've heard rumors that he's actually a well known liberal writer.

Posted by: Raven at July 05, 2019 07:14 PM (6RfEx)

92 87 this question of what is trump's unforegiveable crime could be a thread in itself.

is it poosy
is it shithole
is it mexicans are bad
is it just normal DNC hate-on-command
is it he fights
is it he looks funny
Posted by: Keto not Beto at July 05, 2019 07:12 PM (JziUy)

Trump's unforgivable crime is fighting for people that the globalists have spent decades trying to grind into dust.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2019 07:14 PM (zBaqJ)

93 >>>59 no link to the AllahPundit story?

nah

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:08 PM (PbpT7)
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i used the

in lieu of a /sarc tag...

no way in hell am i giving that little bitch a click

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 05, 2019 07:14 PM (x0QRy)

94

Jeh, theh hardly knew yeh.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 05, 2019 07:14 PM (aKsyK)

95 Trump should have closed the border like he threatened. The tariff threat with Mexico hasn't slowed the influx of illegals. I will concede that doing it now will not help his re-election because the temporary negative economic consequences will over shadow the long term benefit. After his re-election I need him to take a flamethrower to the Left on every issue.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 05, 2019 07:14 PM (2DOZq)

96 Probably one of the worst SCOTUS decisions in its' history..
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2019 07:12 PM (oVJmc)

Yup.

As I've said before, what Trump should do is say 'I am the President. I set Policy for my administration, not the Courts. Therefore, I am putting this question on the census as a matter of Policy because I, the President, think its important to know how many citizens we have in this country."

Posted by: Don Q at July 05, 2019 07:15 PM (NgKpN)

97 Did Jeh really say that? I always took him to be a good Leftist soldier never to step out of line. Guess I am wrong or he didn't get the memo.
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2019 07:09 PM (BbGew)
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He definitely has said it. And he's come on no lack of Fox shows to say it.

Johnson seems to me to be genuinely interested in solving the problem, even if he probably favors a DACA path.
Posted by: Axeman at July 05, 2019 07:12 PM (YOhRS)

Jeh has been pretty consistent multiple times saying we have to control the borders, the open borders is bad, that the cages were and procedures were put in place by FREDOS admin. And yes his honesty surprises me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 07:15 PM (DRWZX)

98 91 Can someone please tell me who Allahpundit is, as in his real name?

I've heard rumors that he's actually a well known liberal writer.
Posted by: Raven at July 05, 2019 07:14 PM (6RfEx)

Tidnup Halla.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2019 07:15 PM (zBaqJ)

99 And for those Johnny Come Latelys who now pretend that they're ultra-conservative for pushing for cutting spending: Where were you guys when Rand Paul proposed cutting spending by 10% across the board? Did you deem that to be "too extreme," too? Did you once again pretend at being in favor of reduced spending while, get this!, finding yet another excuse to oppose a proposal for actually cutting spending?

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you monster. what if we lose federally funded cowboy poetry?

Posted by: Keto not Beto at July 05, 2019 07:15 PM (JziUy)

100 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allahpundit

*slaps his knee*

Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 05, 2019 07:15 PM (I/iGu)

101 >>Maybe, just maybe Jeh sees what illegal immigration does to minorities, that is totally take away jobs from them.

He probably knows better than most what is going to happen to this country if the left gets their way. It's one thing to talk about the hypothetical voting benefit derived from importing millions of new Americans sympathetic to your goals.

It's something completely different to have to live in a country full of people who are for the most part uneducated, in some cases illiterate, don't share our values or our culture. It's not hyperbole to say that it will change America for the worse. Much worse.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2019 07:15 PM (PxX58)

102 >>>82 3 What the hell happened to Allahpundit?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 05, 2019 06:54 PM (O2RFr)

Must be a new girlfriend.
Posted by: Fox2! at July 05, 2019 07:11 PM (MwFQu)
___________

Pegging is a perfectly natural expression of human sexual reproduction according to modern Gender Theory.

Posted by: AllahPundit's definitely not a Trap GF at July 05, 2019 07:15 PM (aqpW6)

103 on Allahpundit : Must be a new girlfriend

Or just a sex bot made up like Sakaki from Azumanga Daioh.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 05, 2019 07:16 PM (ykYG2)

104 *cuts sammich in half and pushes it thru usb at mr. hugo*

Posted by: Cheriebebe at July 05, 2019 07:07 PM (a4qVe)
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you should have ordered the "My Boyfriend's not Hungry" size...

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 05, 2019 07:16 PM (x0QRy)

105 How about an executive order to close the damn border, and send the migrants back home? Damn the courts.

Posted by: josephistan at July 05, 2019 07:16 PM (Izzlo)

106 Can someone please tell me who Allahpundit is, as in his real name?

I've heard rumors that he's actually a well known liberal writer.
Posted by: Raven at July 05, 2019 07:14 PM (6RfEx)

Tidnup Halla.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2019 07:15 PM (zBaqJ)

I think ace would really rather we not doxx people on his blog.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at July 05, 2019 07:16 PM (GbPPJ)

107 or maybe trump denied Jeb! the destiny of losing to Hillary with dignity

Posted by: Keto not Beto at July 05, 2019 07:16 PM (JziUy)

108 Trump should have closed the border like he threatened. The tariff threat with Mexico hasn't slowed the influx of illegals. I will concede that doing it now will not help his re-election because the temporary negative economic consequences will over shadow the long term benefit. After his re-election I need him to take a flamethrower to the Left on every issue.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation

>"B-b-bu-b... BUT THE AVOCADOS!!!!1!!"

Posted by: Delaforce at July 05, 2019 07:17 PM (mE05v)

109 85 Did the SCOTUS decision really say that Commerce had the power to put the question on the census, but not if they did so with bad intent?

How do adults supposedly versed in the law establish a 'depraved heart' standard on Executive Power?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2019 07:12 PM

PDT and his Administration are on Double Secret Probation. They were put on it by the Judiciary and the GOPe.

Posted by: Cleopatra at July 05, 2019 07:17 PM (AMIL/)

110 Fuck allahpundit with a goat.

Posted by: Hobo with a laptop at July 05, 2019 07:17 PM (Dgce0)

111 I am not in favor of any arbitrary across the budget cuts. I give you sequestration. I want targeted and specific cuts that take into account reality

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 07:17 PM (DRWZX)

112 Trump's unforgiveable sin is hauling into the light that all the promises the GOP made for decades were lies.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at July 05, 2019 07:10 PM (GbPPJ)

Absolutely. Assuming Two Scoops rolls to two terms the GOP has a real problem on their hands if he decides that his succession planning doesn't include Top Men's fair haired losers. Which it won't. Top Men will want to wrest the party back from the base: LOLGF!

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 05, 2019 07:18 PM (y7DUB)

113 Roberts goes to Malta to hide out
Mifsud is Maltese
Buttigieg is a common Maltese name.

Notice how hard the press is looking for Mifsud

Posted by: Jean at July 05, 2019 07:18 PM (25Dt7)

114 Why can't Trump slightly change the question and then run with the "oops, we already printed them"?

funny how the "printing" deadline is fine if the liberals get their way, but not if the shoes on the other foot.

Posted by: Raven at July 05, 2019 07:18 PM (6RfEx)

115 Remember that Trump was willing to give the Dems their DACA program in exchange for his wall and some of his border policies and they refused. They are like the Palestinians who refuse every offer no matter how good because it's Israel who is offering it.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 05, 2019 07:18 PM (2DOZq)

116 battery is dead. gotta go.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 05, 2019 07:18 PM (KP5rU)

117 I would love to have PDT say I am the President.

Any action he takes gets a fast track to some lower court and a stay on his order.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2019 07:19 PM (TDEVx)

118 Tidnup Halla.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2019 07:15 PM (zBaqJ)

That's gotta be made up.

Posted by: josephistan at July 05, 2019 07:19 PM (Izzlo)

119 118 Tidnup Halla.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2019 07:15 PM (zBaqJ)

That's gotta be made up.
Posted by: josephistan at July 05, 2019 07:19 PM (Izzlo)

It's Turkish, I think.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 05, 2019 07:19 PM (NWiLs)

120 We will never secure our borders. We will never reduce our spending/debt.

And that will end America.

America 2.0 will become Venezuela without a dictator but with lots of Lords.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 05, 2019 07:19 PM (6eEQ+)

121 >>Notice how hard the press is looking for Mifsud

No need to look, we know where he is.

He's been hanging out at Link University in Rome for months.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2019 07:19 PM (PxX58)

122 Tidnup Halla.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2019 07:15 PM (zBaqJ)

That's gotta be made up.
Posted by: josephistan

L

Posted by: Mayor Pete at July 05, 2019 07:20 PM (QzkSJ)

123 The tariff threat with Mexico hasn't slowed the influx of illegals"

See, here's the thing - if the number of illegals staying was increasing, the useful idiots wouldn't be screaming.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 05, 2019 07:20 PM (6qErC)

124 I am prepared to announce my current favorite cigar is the Punch Clasico Magnum from Honduras.

Posted by: Weasel at July 05, 2019 07:20 PM (Th14x)

125 I always thought velleity meant pretending to agree with something as long as there's no real consequence to it. Lip service basically.

Posted by: ... at July 05, 2019 07:20 PM (uEbPt)

126 Tidnup Halla.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2019 07:15 PM (zBaqJ)

That's gotta be made up.
Posted by: josephistan

Posted by: Mayor Pete at July 05, 2019 07:20 PM (QzkSJ)

127 Notice how hard the press is looking for Mifsud
Posted by: Jean at July 05, 2019 07:18 PM (25Dt7)
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Hot on the trail like OJ on the "Real Killers"....

Posted by: Axeman at July 05, 2019 07:20 PM (YOhRS)

128 I think ace would really rather we not doxx people on his blog.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at July 05, 2019 07:16 PM (GbPPJ)

dog >> doxx

Posted by: Shih Tzu Bark of Grr at July 05, 2019 07:20 PM (dm05u)

129 >>>Pegging is a perfectly natural expression of human sexual reproduction according to modern Gender Theory.

THE CONSERVATIVE CASE FOR MODERN GENDER THEORY

by

Bill "My ass is an open border" Kristol

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:20 PM (PbpT7)

130 So Trump puts the citizenship question on the census form.

What LAW has he broken? He told a co-equal branch of the government to stop playing in the Executive Branch, which he runs.

Tell Justice Roberts and RBG to come over and make Trump take the question off the form.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at July 05, 2019 07:21 PM (+Kpte)

131 Can someone please tell me who Allahpundit is, as in his real name?

I've heard rumors that he's actually a well known liberal writer.
Posted by: Raven at July 05, 2019 07:14 PM (6RfE

Stephen King ?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 05, 2019 07:21 PM (2DOZq)

132 Remember that Trump was willing to give the Dems their DACA program in exchange for his wall and some of his border policies and they refused. They are like the Palestinians who refuse every offer no matter how good because it's Israel who is offering it.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 05, 2019 07:18 PM (2DOZq)

Pretty much. PDT, unlike many of us here, is not a die hard conservative or at least was not when he come into Office. He would have worked with the left, but no, they wanted to,destroy him from the get go. They fucked up. So fuck them

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 07:21 PM (DRWZX)

133 >>>106 Can someone please tell me who Allahpundit is, as in his real name?

I've heard rumors that he's actually a well known liberal writer.
Posted by: Raven at July 05, 2019 07:14 PM (6RfEx)

Tidnup Halla.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2019 07:15 PM (zBaqJ)

I think ace would really rather we not doxx people on his blog.

yeah, no doxxing. Also, he is already a well-known liberal writer known as AllahPundit.

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:21 PM (PbpT7)

134 Bill "My ass is an open border" Kristol
Posted by: ace

Unaccompanied booty miners?

Posted by: Miklos, reorganized at July 05, 2019 07:22 PM (QzkSJ)

135 Weasel, I have a cigar question for you but I will ask it in an email.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2019 07:22 PM (TDEVx)

136 alexthechick: "Trump's unforgiveable sin is hauling into the light that all the promises the GOP made for decades were lies."

Bingo.

Trump put to stone tablet that which we all suspected but feared was true.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 05, 2019 07:22 PM (6eEQ+)

137 131 Can someone please tell me who Allahpundit is, as in his real name?

I've heard rumors that he's actually a well known liberal writer.
Posted by: Raven at July 05, 2019 07:14 PM (6RfE

Stephen King ?
Posted by: Can't resist temptation

Joyce Carol Oates?

Posted by: Shih Tzu Bark of Grr at July 05, 2019 07:22 PM (dm05u)

138 Tidnup Halla.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2019 07:15 PM (zBaqJ)
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I can see why he might not want to backup that name.

Posted by: Axeman at July 05, 2019 07:22 PM (YOhRS)

139 I can balance the budget with one weird trick! No payments to legislators for salary or expenses if making such payments would create or contribute to a deficit.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 05, 2019 07:22 PM (+y/Ru)

140 "Able was I ere I saw Tidnup Hallah" is not a palindrome.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at July 05, 2019 07:22 PM (hjaPQ)

141 Tidnup Halla.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

It's bass-Ackwards, like the original.

Posted by: Miklos, doing teacher reading at July 05, 2019 07:23 PM (QzkSJ)

142 I used to read and comment at lots of blogs, but I never did get in the habit of reading Allahpundit for whatever reason.

Posted by: rickl at July 05, 2019 07:23 PM (sdi6R)

143 >>Remember that Trump was willing to give the Dems their DACA program in exchange for his wall and some of his border policies and they refused. They are like the Palestinians who refuse every offer no matter how good because it's Israel who is offering it.

In their mind they already have the DACA 'kids". They want more and had Trump been able to actually secure the border, stop chain migrations and stop the visa lottery they would have been hosed.

Their entire goal here is more new voters. It has nothing to do with the spark of divinity or such crap. It's votes and power.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2019 07:23 PM (PxX58)

144 Maybe PDT should just put it in a memo. Those never had a court challenge.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2019 07:24 PM (TDEVx)

145 135 Weasel, I have a cigar question for you but I will ask it in an email.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2019 07:22 PM (TDEVx)
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Roger. Standing by.

Posted by: Weasel at July 05, 2019 07:24 PM (Th14x)

146 131 Can someone please tell me who Allahpundit is, as in his real name?

I've heard rumors that he's actually a well known liberal writer.
Posted by: Raven at July 05, 2019 07:14 PM (6RfE

Stephen King ?
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 05, 2019 07:21 PM (2DOZq)

Oliver Willis?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 05, 2019 07:24 PM (NWiLs)

147 California is steal political power and funds from every other State in the Union, this is a political question. In other words, fuck off Roberts

Posted by: Jean at July 05, 2019 07:24 PM (25Dt7)

148 maybe Allahpup is really EL James

Posted by: Shih Tzu Bark of Grr at July 05, 2019 07:24 PM (dm05u)

149 One thing being here taught me is it doesn't really matter who a writer is by face recognition. I read lots of commenters and bloggers and no idea what they look like, often what gender they are ( of the 2 there is)

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2019 07:24 PM (BbGew)

150 >>>83 El caso conservador de las fronteras abiertas.
Posted by: ShainS

si, es verdad!

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:24 PM (PbpT7)

151 Oliver Willis?
Posted by: Insomniac at July 05, 2019 07:24 PM (NWiLs)
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Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?

Posted by: Axeman at July 05, 2019 07:24 PM (YOhRS)

152 yeah, no doxxing. Also, he is already a well-known liberal writer known as AllahPundit.

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:21 PM (PbpT7)

Thread Winner! ( you haven't had one of those in awhile)

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 05, 2019 07:24 PM (2DOZq)

153 If you play Tidnup Halla backwards it sounds like Stairway to Heaven

Posted by: G marks the spot at July 05, 2019 07:25 PM (bKezI)

154
Can someone please tell me who Allahpundit is, as in his real name?
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Tidnup Halla.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

He's my brother and he IS heavy.

Posted by: Val Halla at July 05, 2019 07:25 PM (aKsyK)

155 >>>One thing being here taught me is it doesn't really matter who a writer is by face recognition. I read lots of commenters and bloggers and no idea what they look like, often what gender they are

i'm routinely shocked to find out that some commenters are female

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:25 PM (PbpT7)

156 ITS FUNNY CAUSE TINDUP HALLA IS ALLAH PUNDIT BACKWARDS AND SOME PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT WAS HIS REAL NAME!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLESBERGER at July 05, 2019 07:26 PM (gC2IV)

157 Maybe PDT should just put it in a memo. Those never had a court challenge.
Posted by: Ben Had

>It worked for Obama with DACA.

Posted by: Delaforce at July 05, 2019 07:26 PM (mE05v)

158 We essentially did away with borders and immigration controls in 1986.

It's been getting worse since.

And when 100k can simply walk across the border and be released into the country anyone who claims we are a sovereign nation is insane.

Posted by: Radical Centrist at July 05, 2019 07:26 PM (JRUlY)

159 i'm routinely shocked to find out that some commenters are female
Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:25 PM (PbpT7)

Not half as shocked as they are, I bet.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 05, 2019 07:26 PM (t+qrx)

160 i'm routinely shocked to find out that some commenters are female
Posted by: ace

AceDate already seems to be a thing.

Posted by: Miklos, business modeler at July 05, 2019 07:26 PM (QzkSJ)

161 I'm announcing today that I've decided to live my life as a Tidnup Halla.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at July 05, 2019 07:26 PM (hjaPQ)

162 Allahpundit is an anagram for 'Halal Pundit.'

He's 100% pork.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2019 07:27 PM (oVJmc)

163
California is steal political power and funds from every other State in the Union, this is a political question. In other words, fuck off Roberts
Posted by: Jean

Gavin Newsom was on TV bragging that California had a budget surplus, unlike the USA!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 05, 2019 07:28 PM (aKsyK)

164 i'm routinely shocked to find out that some commenters are female
Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:25 PM (PbpT7)

Not half as shocked as they are, I bet.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 05, 2019 07:26 PM (t+qrx)

I keep telling Ruthless to change his nic. Or at least recapitalize it.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 05, 2019 07:28 PM (2DOZq)

165 I used to read and comment at lots of blogs, but I never did get in the habit of reading Allahpundit for whatever reason.
Posted by: rickl at July 05, 2019 07:23 PM (sdi6R)

Neither did I, but he made those funny captions during the 2004 campaign. And came around here to comment, occasionally.

The stuff up there, it reads like gibberish. Really, maybe there's some context that gives it meaning, but I don't know what the hell the idiot is saying.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2019 07:28 PM (cY3LT)

166 ALSO, HALLA BREAD MAKES EXCELLENT FRENCH TOAST!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLESBERGER at July 05, 2019 07:28 PM (gC2IV)

167 Feds say Joaquin El Chapo Guzman owes U.S. $12B

Lol. Good luck collecting. Oh he owes me 12 billion also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 07:28 PM (DRWZX)

168 >>>, but I don't know what the hell the idiot is saying.

he's saying ORANGE MAN BAD AND SO ARE YOU

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:29 PM (PbpT7)

169 Allahpundit is an anagram for 'Halal Pundit.'

He's 100% pork.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2019 07:27 PM (oVJmc)
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Pork is haram. Beef is Halal.

Posted by: Axeman at July 05, 2019 07:29 PM (YOhRS)

170 FUN FACT

Tidnup Halla was Finnish Minister of Transport 1923-1926

Posted by: Miklos, Fount of Fun Facts at July 05, 2019 07:29 PM (QzkSJ)

171 decapitalize = recapitalize

( or is it uncapitalize ?)

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 05, 2019 07:29 PM (2DOZq)

172 >>>130 So Trump puts the citizenship question on the census form.

What LAW has he broken? He told a co-equal branch of the government to stop playing in the Executive Branch, which he runs.

Tell Justice Roberts and RBG to come over and make Trump take the question off the form.
Posted by: WarEagle82 at July 05, 2019 07:21 PM (+Kpte)

___________________

ZZZzzzzzzzzz

wha?

Posted by: RBG at July 05, 2019 07:29 PM (aqpW6)

173 >>>Tidnup Halla was Finnish Minister of Transport 1923-1926

Tidnup Halla was also the first transexual to swim the English channel.

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:29 PM (PbpT7)

174 LSO, HALLA BREAD MAKES EXCELLENT FRENCH TOAST!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLESBERGER at July 05, 2019 07:28 PM (gC2IV)
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It's Halla good. Halla!

Posted by: Axeman at July 05, 2019 07:29 PM (YOhRS)

175 AllahPundit is a dishonest defender of the Bush/Business Cadre consensus

The obsequious sycophant knows who butters his bread.

Posted by: Grump928(C) muses at July 05, 2019 07:30 PM (aqMeV)

176 Trump did close one sector, briefly, around Christmas - San Diego. Everyone instantly went ape-s**t [well, the Mexicans and the usual suspects on this side] - a five-hour closure. It was part of the jaw-boning and intimidation ballet surrounding the "caravan" idiocy. He hasn't repeated that, though he's explicitly threatened it twice.

There is a medium-long list of things Trump can do [and could have done at any time], fully within his existing authority, to freeze/nuke/stop the major problems [family units, "asylum", etc]. There is a cottage industry among those in the field speculating about why he hasn't, and whether he's actually been advised of his real options.

And the judicial derailment of the constitutional system [already well advanced when Trump took office] has gone into over-drive. The ridiculous decision on the census isn't even the most outrageous [tho it nicely echoes the jaw-dropping idiocy of the district rulings on the first travel EO].

The country - and Trump - face two important foes on the central question of sovereignty, borders, and rule of law related to each. The lawless judiciary is one. The bulk of the GOP is the other. To this point, exactly nothing has been done to address either.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 05, 2019 07:30 PM (QDnY+)

177 I keep telling Ruthless to change his nic. Or at least recapitalize it.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 05, 2019 07:28 PM (2DOZq)

It was about three years before I could consistently remember whether Ignoramus, Infidel, or Insomniac was the chick.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 05, 2019 07:30 PM (t+qrx)

178 Tidnup Halla was Finnish Minister of Transport 1923-1926
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And I honked her titties, but that was before I got woke.

Posted by: Joe Biden at July 05, 2019 07:30 PM (hjaPQ)

179 Just tax remittances at 75%.

*brushes hands*

Problem solved.

Posted by: Infidel at July 05, 2019 07:30 PM (BLFnH)

180 Czech Chick is, in fact, a Czech Chick.

For the record.

But I identify as a super model/prima ballerina.

Posted by: Czech Chick at July 05, 2019 07:31 PM (J9wxX)

181 Thesaurus Ace is setting new boundaries of invective !

Woohoo !

Take my usual toast as read, dinner (Mrs Eez) is calling loud enough to hear over the 3d printer.

Confusion to our enemies !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at July 05, 2019 07:31 PM (I1oSB)

182 Can someone please tell me who Allahpundit is, as in his real name?

I've heard rumors that he's actually a well known liberal writer.
Posted by: Raven at July 05, 2019 07:14 PM (6RfE

Stephen King ?
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 05, 2019 07:21 PM (2DOZq)

Oliver Willis?
Posted by: Insomniac at July 05, 2019 07:24 PM (NWiLs)

Presumably, Ace knows exactly who AP is, and AP presumably knows who Ace is.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2019 07:31 PM (cY3LT)

183 Tidnup Halla scandalized the world by appearing in a film while carrying a MAN'S briefcase.

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:31 PM (PbpT7)

184 13 I think Trump has been too deferential to the judiciary. If Obama can make an Executive Order, Trump can undo that same Executive Order. Roberts can go fuck himself.

This. They are co-equal branches of government, but the Executive is uniquely Trump's. If Trump wants to rescind an Obama EO, then that is as if Obama himself repealed it. No permission needed. No approval needed. No judicial review needed. There is NOTHING they can refer to except enacted law and the Constitution. Specifically, Obama's EO no longer exists the moment Trump gives the word.

If the court was worth a shit, they'd have pitched Obama's EO for not being lawful. But rescinding an EO by definition says "we're going to let the law have the final say on this". How can that ever be illegal?

Posted by: cpurick at July 05, 2019 07:31 PM (7YrFp)

185 Surely your not talking about me- are YOU?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2019 07:32 PM (TDEVx)

186

Presumably, Ace knows exactly who AP is, and AP presumably knows who Ace is.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2019 07:31 PM (cY3LT)
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This is the legend.

Posted by: Weasel at July 05, 2019 07:32 PM (Th14x)

187 >>>Presumably, Ace knows exactly who AP is,

I could try to remember but I don't. It's nothing interesting. There is no backstory here.

if you knew the name you'd say, "I have no idea who that person is."

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:32 PM (PbpT7)

188
AllahPundit is a dishonest defender of the Bush/Business Cadre consensus

The obsequious sycophant knows who butters his bread.
Posted by: Grump928(C) muses

So that's why the caged bird sings!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 05, 2019 07:32 PM (aKsyK)

189 130 So Trump puts the citizenship question on the census form.

What LAW has he broken? He told a co-equal branch of the government to stop playing in the Executive Branch, which he runs.

Tell Justice Roberts and RBG to come over and make Trump take the question off the form.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at July 05, 2019 07:21 PM (+Kpte)

Wasn't one of Obama's first acts as President to put the Census under the direct control of the White House? Why, yes, I believe it was.

Posted by: rickl at July 05, 2019 07:32 PM (sdi6R)

190 Ace and Allah saw brokeback mountain together.

They know each other. (Wink)

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 05, 2019 07:32 PM (2DOZq)

191 ORANGE MAN BAD AND SO ARE YOU

I know that about myself already, so I don't need to go to his site to hear it again. as for the Orange Man, he was better than Shartsy McPantsuit and a LOT better than any of the gnomes running for the D nomination next year. So unless Allahpundit has an alternative, he can stuff Kamala's used panties into his own mouth and STFU.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 05, 2019 07:32 PM (ykYG2)

192 @182
It's been rumored that Allah Pundit is a fellow named Josh Barro.

Don't know, that's just the rumor I've heard.

Posted by: Radical Centrist at July 05, 2019 07:33 PM (JRUlY)

193 "America isn't a geographical area, it's an idea!"

Uh huh.

Posted by: JuJuBee at July 05, 2019 07:33 PM (vpAcu)

194 Re the polite conservatives who would rather surrender to liberal repression than have us rubes implement conservative change...Their advocacy of conservative agenda items is about persuading the rightful ruling class to be less Marxist. But polite conservatives absolutely respect our Ivy League /Acela leaders' right to rule this country.

Posted by: Cumberland Astro at July 05, 2019 07:33 PM (d9Cw3)

195 Ace, just curious and maybe I'm not remembering correctly, but didn't you and AP used to be friends?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 05, 2019 07:33 PM (gC2IV)

196 >>>. So unless Allahpundit has an alternative,

IT'S NOT BINARY!!!

Posted by: Not-Binary Ben at July 05, 2019 07:33 PM (PbpT7)

197 Just tax remittances at 75%.

*brushes hands*

Problem solved.
Posted by: Infidel

Bueno.

We'll only charge 20%.

Posted by: CartelCash SA de CV at July 05, 2019 07:33 PM (QzkSJ)

198

I believe it's pronounced Throatwobbler Mangrove

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 05, 2019 07:34 PM (aKsyK)

199 180 Czech Chick is, in fact, a Czech Chick.

For the record.

But I identify as a super model/prima ballerina.
Posted by: Czech Chick at July 05, 2019 07:31 PM (J9wxX)

And since you're an 'ette, we know that
Czech Chick is tres chic.

Posted by: Emmie at July 05, 2019 07:34 PM (4HMW8)

200 >>>195 Ace, just curious and maybe I'm not remembering correctly, but didn't you and AP used to be friends?

eh, yeah, I guess, kinda. Like fifteen years ago.

I mean, am I friends with Protein Wisdom? I have met him, we have emailed.

You know?

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:34 PM (PbpT7)

201 146 131 Can someone please tell me who Allahpundit is, as in his real name?

I've heard rumors that he's actually a well known liberal writer.
Posted by: Raven at July 05, 2019 07:14 PM (6RfE

Stephen King ?
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 05, 2019 07:21 PM (2DOZq)

Oliver Willis?
Posted by: Insomniac at July 05, 2019 07:24 PM (NWiLs)

Mike Lupica?

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 05, 2019 07:34 PM (DTX3h)

202 159 i'm routinely shocked to find out that some commenters are female
Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:25 PM (PbpT7)

Not half as shocked as they are, I bet.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 05, 2019 07:26 PM (t+qrx)

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Not surprised, really.

Wasn't too long ago that a fellow commenter thought I was lying when he found out I'm of the female persuasion.

*shrugs*

Posted by: SMH at July 05, 2019 07:35 PM (RU4sa)

203

And he was that little girl.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 05, 2019 07:35 PM (aKsyK)

204 Hi bth! How's it hanging.

Posted by: Infidel at July 05, 2019 07:35 PM (BLFnH)

205 Pretty sure AP has already been outed right here.

Posted by: ... at July 05, 2019 07:35 PM (uEbPt)

206 Mike Lupica?
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 05, 2019 07:34 PM (DTX3h)

I give short shift to that rumor

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 07:36 PM (DRWZX)

207 201 146 131 Can someone please tell me who Allahpundit is, as in his real name?

I've heard rumors that he's actually a well known liberal writer.
Posted by: Raven at July 05, 2019 07:14 PM (6RfE

Stephen King ?
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 05, 2019 07:21 PM (2DOZq)

Oliver Willis?
Posted by: Insomniac at July 05, 2019 07:24 PM (NWiLs)

Mike Lupica?
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 05, 2019 07:34 PM (DTX3h)
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This is really about me, isn't it. I'm onto you reichwingers!

Posted by: Rula Lenska at July 05, 2019 07:36 PM (hjaPQ)

208 Thanks, Ace. JeffG is how I found this place.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 05, 2019 07:36 PM (gC2IV)

209 >>>Wasn't too long ago that a fellow commenter thought I was lying when he found out I'm of the female persuasion.

i didn't know that. Unless a commenter puts a female descriptor in her screenname, or gives herself a screenname that a man would not (like bluebell), i read every comment in a male voice.

and then it's weird when I find out it's a woman.

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:36 PM (PbpT7)

210 @192: "Don't know, that's just the rumor I've heard."

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=366819

Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 05, 2019 07:36 PM (I/iGu)

211 The only photo I've seen of ace looks exactly like a tank stuck in mud.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 05, 2019 07:36 PM (2DOZq)

212 As noted, DACA wasn't even an EO but a Presidential Memo.

No court challenge there.

Well yes there is but it's 5 years after the fact.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2019 07:37 PM (TDEVx)

213 Presumably, Ace knows exactly who AP is,
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I could try to remember but I don't. It's nothing interesting. There is no backstory here.

if you knew the name you'd say, "I have no idea who that person is."

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:32 PM (PbpT7)

Understood.

I never got the impression he was "somebody." But then, generally speaking, tv talking heads and actors aren't somebody either, there's just the "lucky" ones who suxed the right person to get the job.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2019 07:37 PM (cY3LT)

214 They call this "Politics Business" not politics *friends.*

Posted by: An old producer explaining why you're not getting a credit or money for a movie you wrote at July 05, 2019 07:37 PM (PbpT7)

215 189 Wasn't one of Obama's first acts as President to put the Census under the direct control of the White House? Why, yes, I believe it was.

Posted by: rickl at July 05, 2019 07:32 PM (sdi6R)

I forgot which he did first: that, or banning flavored cigarettes other than menthol. It's been a decade since I had access to a real clove cigarette thanks to that little shit.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 05, 2019 07:37 PM (DTX3h)

216 211 The only photo I've seen of ace looks exactly like a tank stuck in mud.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 05, 2019 07:36 PM (2DOZq)

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Tankers are gonna tank.

Posted by: SMH at July 05, 2019 07:37 PM (RU4sa)

217 200 >>>195 Ace, just curious and maybe I'm not remembering correctly, but didn't you and AP used to be friends?

eh, yeah, I guess, kinda. Like fifteen years ago.

I mean, am I friends with Protein Wisdom? I have met him, we have emailed.

You know?

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:34 PM (PbpT7)

Relationship status: "It's complicated."

Posted by: Insomniac at July 05, 2019 07:37 PM (NWiLs)

218
Not surprised, really.

Wasn't too long ago that a fellow commenter thought I was lying when he found out I'm of the female persuasion.

*shrugs*
Posted by: SMH at July 05,

Ditto. Some of us that are that pursuasion are not the typical broads in the 'burbs.

Posted by: Infidel at July 05, 2019 07:37 PM (BLFnH)

219 OT and as always sorry if it's been discussed, but I just saw that they are saying they found the body of that "sugar baby" college student in a canyon. Didn't they just say the other day they found her burned body in the guy's backyard?

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 05, 2019 07:37 PM (iqKGi)

220 hi Infidel ! looking forward to another weekend of doing not-much.
The boss dumped a half-finished project on the client and then had me "support" it today, which meant... I told the client I was looking at it. All I can do until I'm trained on what the project is supposed to accomplish.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 05, 2019 07:37 PM (ykYG2)

221 It's been a decade since I had access to a real clove cigarette thanks to that little shit.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 05, 2019 07:37 PM (DTX3h)

Those damn things were good, too.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 05, 2019 07:37 PM (NWiLs)

222 and then it's weird when I find out it's a woman.

Posted by: ace

Same with the hobos?

Posted by: Miklos, guessing at July 05, 2019 07:37 PM (QzkSJ)

223 RBG was on live C-Span the other day, ( Wed I think) I mentioned but was towards the end and no one mentioned they saw it.
That old biddy I think might have a ring of power.

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2019 07:37 PM (BbGew)

224 >>Well yes there is but it's 5 years after the fact.

Supreme Court should rule on it next spring after the census. Quite a coincidence.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2019 07:38 PM (PxX58)

225 Wait, bluebell is a chick? This changes everything!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 05, 2019 07:38 PM (gC2IV)

226 IRL Ace is actually a famous movie reviewer and DIY expert. Talk about throwing them off the scent.

Posted by: ... at July 05, 2019 07:38 PM (uEbPt)

227 > Allahpundit is an anagram for 'Halal Pundit.'

Pallid HauntUntall AphidPud Anal Hilt

Posted by: Guy What Makes Anagrams at July 05, 2019 07:38 PM (JUUk1)

228 AllahNoPenis needs to be doxxed and have his info sent to every mosque in the country.

War.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at July 05, 2019 07:38 PM (+dsLj)

229 Some of us that are that pursuasion are not the typical broads in the 'burbs.
Posted by: Infidel at July 05, 2019 07:37 PM (BLFnH)

Amen

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 07:38 PM (DRWZX)

230 Trying again:

Pallid Haunt
Untall Aphid

Pud Anal Hilt

Posted by: Guy What Makes Anagrams at July 05, 2019 07:39 PM (JUUk1)

231 @201: "Mike Lupica?"

Lupica has one of the worst nervous speech tics in broadcasting. He interrupts himself and pauses multiple times per sentence by saying "okay". It's worse than people who say "you know" way too often.

Once heard, it can not be unheard.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 05, 2019 07:39 PM (I/iGu)

232 A nation without borders is not a nation. Period.

Posted by: Eromero at July 05, 2019 07:39 PM (UUkQp)

233 RBG was on live C-Span the other day, ( Wed I think) I mentioned but was towards the end and no one mentioned they saw it.
That old biddy I think might have a ring of power.
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2019 07:37

Was it live? I thought she hadn't been seen in public since Nov.

Posted by: Infidel at July 05, 2019 07:40 PM (BLFnH)

234 I also read every comment in a male voice.

Posted by: Bill Kristol at July 05, 2019 07:40 PM (uEbPt)

235 The only question is do we die a long, painful death like Britain or will there be a shooting war? My money is on a slow decline.

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at July 05, 2019 07:40 PM (gaFth)

236 I thought Tidnup Halla was the Romulan space dyke from Star Wars.

Posted by: freaked at July 05, 2019 07:40 PM (UdKB7)

237 As long as Trump "asks permission" for EO's, of course the Supreme Court will weigh in and sometimes say no to him.

He needs to start ignoring them. And fire people in the Executive Branch that think they work for the Judiciary Branch if they don't follow orders.

I honestly don't remember the SC stopping a single Obama EO, at least while he was in office.

Posted by: Raven at July 05, 2019 07:40 PM (6RfEx)

238 Wasn't too long ago that a fellow commenter thought I was lying when he found out I'm of the female persuasion.

*shrugs*
Posted by: SMH at July 05, 2019 07:35 PM (RU4sa)

Yeah, but then there was that one time you thought I was a chick.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 05, 2019 07:40 PM (t+qrx)

239 >>>28 AllahNoPenis needs to be doxxed and have his info sent to every mosque in the country.

War.

...

dude, stop it. you're putting me in the uncomfortable position of having to ban you if only to keep my right to my own anonymity.

And unless you're using your real name, you should think about this tactic being turned on you.

Posted by: An old producer explaining why you're not getting a credit or money for a movie you wrote at July 05, 2019 07:41 PM (PbpT7)

240 229 Some of us that are that pursuasion are not the typical broads in the 'burbs.
Posted by: Infidel at July 05, 2019 07:37 PM (BLFnH)

Amen
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 07:38 PM (DRWZX)

Wait, NGU is a chick?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 05, 2019 07:41 PM (NWiLs)

241 Lupica has one of the worst nervous speech tics in broadcasting. He interrupts himself and pauses multiple times per sentence by saying "okay". It's worse than people who say "you know" way too often.

Once heard, it can not be unheard.

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there are those who say "errr.uhhhh" between every syllabul and those who go "if-if-if-if" between sentences. I accept these choices.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at July 05, 2019 07:41 PM (JziUy)

242 Only in some life experience discussion does it occasionally matter to know if a person is female or male

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2019 07:41 PM (BbGew)

243 > Mike Lupica?

Rachel Maddow.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 05, 2019 07:41 PM (JUUk1)

244 Did you know OregonMuse wasn't a chick, Ace?

Posted by: garrett at July 05, 2019 07:41 PM (RL1kK)

245 234 I also read every comment in a male voice.
Posted by: Bill Kristol at July 05, 2019 07:40 PM (uEbPt)

Well not after you have met an ette at a meet up

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 07:41 PM (DRWZX)

246 This is just Clover and Pliven on a national scale. The Dems want to destroy America.

Posted by: I am not corey Booker at July 05, 2019 07:41 PM (nRj4F)

247 235 The only question is do we die a long, painful death like Britain or will there be a shooting war? My money is on a slow decline.
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at July 05, 2019 07:40 PM (gaFth)

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Just when I start to think that, f*ckers like antifa want to up the ante.

Posted by: SMH at July 05, 2019 07:41 PM (RU4sa)

248 I also read every comment in a male voice.
Posted by: Bill Kristol at July 05, 2019 07:40 PM (uEbPt)

And you move your lips while reading them. Out loud.

Posted by: DR.WTF at July 05, 2019 07:41 PM (aS1PU)

249 >>>225 Wait, bluebell is a chick? This changes everything!

I assumed but I don't know

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:41 PM (PbpT7)

250 Wait, NGU is a chick?
Posted by: Insomniac at July 05, 2019 07:41 PM (NWiLs)

Lol. Not the last time I checked. Wait. Yup not a female.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 07:42 PM (DRWZX)

251 No wonder it's impossible to buy The Camp of the Saints nowadays.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2019 07:04 PM (Wx/+I)

14 bucks on Amazon for a paperback copy.... I'm surprised that they sell it....

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at July 05, 2019 07:42 PM (EICTX)

252 shit on this is not a palindrome.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at July 05, 2019 07:42 PM (JziUy)

253 >>>244 Did you know OregonMuse wasn't a chick, Ace?

yes

and believe me, I found out the HARD way.

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:42 PM (PbpT7)

254 228 AllahNoPenis needs to be doxxed and have his info sent to every mosque in the country.

War.
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at July 05, 2019 07:38 PM (+dsLj)

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Nah, he's an asshole, but he hasn't called for violence against his opponents. No real reason to doxx him.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 05, 2019 07:42 PM (gC2IV)

255 I assumed but I don't know
Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:41 PM (PbpT7)

She sends a double out to make her appearances like Saddam Hussein. You never know if it's the real bluebell.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 05, 2019 07:42 PM (t+qrx)

256 Bandersnatch is a chick, right?

Posted by: garrett at July 05, 2019 07:43 PM (RL1kK)

257 Say, what kind of name is "Jeh" anyway? It's like his parents wanted to name him James but gave up halfway through filling out the birth certificate.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at July 05, 2019 07:43 PM (3ufaJ)

258 250 Wait, NGU is a chick?
Posted by: Insomniac at July 05, 2019 07:41 PM (NWiLs)

Lol. Not the last time I checked. Wait. Yup not a female.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 07:42 PM (DRWZX)

What I meant was some of the females here are very accomplished, smart, and a joy to meet

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 07:43 PM (DRWZX)

259 242 And sometimes while a commenter may not declared a gender just in comments made it can be reasonably assumed.
NGU is a woman I quit even trying.

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2019 07:43 PM (BbGew)

260 256 Bandersnatch is a chick, right?
Posted by: garrett at July 05, 2019 07:43 PM (RL1kK)

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Heh.

Posted by: SMH at July 05, 2019 07:44 PM (RU4sa)

261 >>>257 Say, what kind of name is "Jeh" anyway? It's like his parents wanted to name him James but gave up halfway through filling out the birth certificate.

I have no idea. I assume it's racist to ask.

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:44 PM (PbpT7)

262 JeffG was also how I found this place. Ace was less shrill and less thin-skinned, so it was easier to interact here than there.

JeffG's take on Trump was typical. He posted an Extra Special Episode where he said that if you supported Trump, you'd ignored everything on ProteinWisdom for the last 15 years. There's not-Trump or there's where I was at in the primaries, which was Trump-curious-but-not-very; but I'd not go out and say that if you liked Trump then We Can't Be Friends Anymore. e.g. I always made it a point to be civil to be biggest Trumpeter we had here at the time, who was kari.

So I dunno. JeffG has demons, I think. Doesn't control his emotions well. (And this is *me* saying that.)

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 05, 2019 07:44 PM (ykYG2)

263 The Statists/Socialists simply want to do nothing more than to dissolve the people and elect another. They hate us because we have forfeited the confidence they had in us and WE need to win it back through electing them (followed by redoubled efforts). They are taking Bertolt Brecht's advice.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 05, 2019 07:44 PM (kKmz+)

264 Honestly, who the hell is AP and why should I even care what this dunce writes? His arguments, if you can call them that are either sophism or non sequiturs. He obviously likes the smell of his own ass and believes in his delusions he is someone people are waiting with bated breath to burp up his maladroit, maniacal rankings. Psst. Most of them are not and would rather have their eyes removed with a hot poker than read that buffoon.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 05, 2019 07:44 PM (VkWRL)

265 She sends a double out to make her appearances like Saddam Hussein. You never know if it's the real bluebell.
Posted by: hogmartin

Suddenly shout "Large Marge!" and if she looks over, it ain't the real Bluebell.

Posted by: Miklos, not guessing this time at July 05, 2019 07:44 PM (QzkSJ)

266 sometimes I think that people who suggest a moderate, conciliatory tone with the left are women, but then I remember, Oh right, some men are pussies

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:44 PM (PbpT7)

267 @209: "... i read every comment in a male voice."

I like reading every third comment in the voice of the dog from the old New Yorker cartoon.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 05, 2019 07:45 PM (I/iGu)

268 It's the 'snatch that gives it away.

Posted by: garrett at July 05, 2019 07:45 PM (RL1kK)

269 Watching Tucker from last night.

Did not realize that Mitt Romney paid 14% tax on 22 million dollars in income last year.

I paid 40% on 129k .

Just another reason for me to say fuck that guy.

Posted by: mikeyG : G stands for Garbage Person at July 05, 2019 07:45 PM (LL1Be)

270 sometimes I think that people who suggest a moderate, conciliatory tone with the left are women, but then I remember, Oh right, some men are pussies
Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:44

roflmao.

Posted by: Infidel at July 05, 2019 07:46 PM (BLFnH)

271 Say, what kind of name is "Jeh" anyway? It's like his parents wanted to name him James but gave up halfway through filling out the birth certificate.
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I have no idea. I assume it's racist to ask.
Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:44 PM (PbpT7)

I figured it's short for Jehu.

Which would be kinda badass for a DMH chief... if it hadn't been Bobama's DMH chief.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2019 07:46 PM (cY3LT)

272 >>Did not realize that Mitt Romney paid 14% tax on 22 million dollars in income last year.

Car Elevators are Federally Subsidized.

Posted by: garrett at July 05, 2019 07:46 PM (RL1kK)

273 Allahpundit is Mr. Richard Fader of Fort Wayne, NJ.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2019 07:46 PM (oVJmc)

274 the border is there only to let the illegals know they are in the land of milk and honey, and can now apply for free shit, and can break our laws without worry. Their long oppression is over, free at last ... Whitey owes them that ... /s

Posted by: illiniwek at July 05, 2019 07:47 PM (Cus5s)

275 Bandersnatch is a chick, right?
Posted by: garrett at July 05, 2019 07:43 PM (RL1kK)
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I think that BEN ROTHLISBERGER chick is a chick.

Posted by: Axeman at July 05, 2019 07:47 PM (YOhRS)

276 The 1OK-foot view is not rosy.

Administration started strong, but 1] failure to deal properly/in accord with Trump's oath WRT judicial lawlessness, and 2] complete failure to "politicize" the issue - esp. *within* the GOP, have led to today's result: hundreds of thousands of illegals [probably will reach millions] literally facilitated into the country by BP, added to the unknown yuuuge illegal alien problem; an executive branch weaker than ever before in terms of discharging basic functions on borders and admissions, due to submission to lawless courts; a "sanctuary" cancer that has gained momentum and reach without pause.

Oh - and the *legal* migration related stuff is nearly as grim. WH has *seemed* to back away from the RAISE Act, and tho nothing has yet emerged, the unvarying vibe and scuttlebutt on labor-related visas has been bad [and this leaves aside the H1 setbacks contained in 2 CRs Trump ineptly was compelled to sign].

Posted by: rhomboid at July 05, 2019 07:47 PM (QDnY+)

277 dude, stop it. you're putting me in the uncomfortable position of having to ban you if only to keep my right to my own anonymity.

*********

Can I still call him AllahNoPenis at least?

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at July 05, 2019 07:47 PM (+dsLj)

278 Allahpundit is Mr. Richard Fader of Fort Wayne, NJ.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2019 07:46 PM (oVJmc)
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He wrote in a lot to Roseanne Rosanna Danna.

Posted by: Axeman at July 05, 2019 07:47 PM (YOhRS)

279 I paid 40% on 129k .

Just another reason for me to say fuck that guy.
Posted by: mikeyG : G stands for Garbage Person at July 05, 2019 07:45 PM (LL1Be)

And maybe also a new accountant. I know a guy named Vito here in NJ and for a C note, he will cut your taxes in half and also break the knees of ny auditors..urh I mean represent you in any audit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 07:48 PM (DRWZX)

280 > if it hadn't been Bobama's DMH chief.

Although he did come out today against "open borders", basically saying it's a fucking idiotic idea.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 05, 2019 07:48 PM (JUUk1)

281 >>>I figured it's short for Jehu.

i thought maybe it was something like that. that would be a good reason.

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:48 PM (PbpT7)

282 OH ace, you need to pay better attention to the 'Ettes around here.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2019 07:48 PM (TDEVx)

283 WTAF? Over.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 05, 2019 07:48 PM (QDnY+)

284 Oh - and the *legal* migration related stuff is nearly as grim. WH has *seemed* to back away from the RAISE Act, and tho nothing has yet emerged, the unvarying vibe and scuttlebutt on labor-related visas has been bad [and this leaves aside the H1 setbacks contained in 2 CRs Trump ineptly was compelled to sign].

Posted by: rhomboid at July 05, 2019 07:47 PM (QDnY+)
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Couldn't you just have erased what you didn't want?

Posted by: Axeman at July 05, 2019 07:48 PM (YOhRS)

285 It's only a general tendency that women are more prone to touchy feely emotion political decisions. Dennis Prager has pointed that out.

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2019 07:49 PM (BbGew)

286 >>>282 OH ace, you need to pay better attention to the 'Ettes around here.

i don't know who they are, though

i try to pay attention to the homosexuals, such as garrett

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:49 PM (PbpT7)

287 So I dunno. JeffG has demons, I think. Doesn't control his emotions well. (And this is *me* saying that.)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 05, 2019 07:44 PM (ykYG2)
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I've interacted with Jeff G., via email, and it's my impression he's convinced civil war is inevitable and that thought keeps him up at night..because he's scared for his children.

I don't think that's completely unreasonable.

For what it's worth, Jeff G. was on to Patterico long before a lot of people figured it out.

Posted by: blake - my preferred pronoun is: Pronoun! at July 05, 2019 07:49 PM (WEBkv)

288 lol Ben Had,

He has much more important things to do.

Like put up shelves that will last eons.

Posted by: SMH at July 05, 2019 07:49 PM (RU4sa)

289 Posted by: rhomboid at July 05, 2019 07:47 PM (QDnY+)

*berates ump for ignoring Overstrike Rule*

Posted by: Miklos, in the cheap seats at July 05, 2019 07:49 PM (QzkSJ)

290 So I dunno. JeffG has demons, I think. Doesn't control his emotions well. (And this is *me* saying that.)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 05, 2019 07:44 PM (ykYG2)

I think I tried to read Jeff's reasons for the Trump hate, and I don't think it made a lick of sense to me.

But he said he didn't want me around anymore, so I left. Seemed to me though, he'd pretty much left his own site long before I gave up forever.

I still have one of his t-shirts. It says "You're not the boss of me."

Yep.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2019 07:49 PM (cY3LT)

291 try to pay attention to the homosexuals, such as garrett
Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:49 PM (PbpT7)

I knew it!

Posted by: DR.WTF at July 05, 2019 07:49 PM (aS1PU)

292 Well, the dinner bell has rung.

In for a treat, Mrs. Blake made her stir fry.

Mmm.

Posted by: blake - my preferred pronoun is: Pronoun! at July 05, 2019 07:50 PM (WEBkv)

293 Nah, he's an asshole, but he hasn't called for violence against his opponents. No real reason to doxx him.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

_______________

Since I was the one that started this, let me just say I don't want him "doxxed" for the purpose of having his safety at all compromised or harassed. Like where he lives, etc

I was honestly asking because I legitimately heard he's a "known" liberal simply masquerading as a conservative writer in the hope to turn the conservative movement in a certain direction ,like a double agent. And thought if that's true, it should be exposed.

Since I've been reading him, I have for long time thought he worked for the other side, and not just since Trump.

But I meant no offense Ace, and understand your rules on this.

Posted by: Raven at July 05, 2019 07:50 PM (6RfEx)

294 Bandersnatch is a chick, right?
Posted by: garrett at July 05, 2019 07:43 PM (RL1kK)

You dick you made me laugh out loud

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 05, 2019 07:50 PM (2DOZq)

295 251 No wonder it's impossible to buy The Camp of the Saints nowadays.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2019 07:04 PM (Wx/+I)

14 bucks on Amazon for a paperback copy.... I'm surprised that they sell it....

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at July 05, 2019 07:42 PM (EICTX)

Well, it's pretty much a fait accompli at this point.

Posted by: rickl at July 05, 2019 07:50 PM (sdi6R)

296 291 try to pay attention to the homosexuals, such as garrett
Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:49 PM (PbpT7)

I knew it!
Posted by: DR.WTF at July 05, 2019 07:49 PM (aS1PU)

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*eyes garrett*

NTTAWWT...

*scoots away*

Posted by: SMH at July 05, 2019 07:50 PM (RU4sa)

297 try to pay attention to the homosexuals, such as garrett
Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:49 PM (PbpT7)

I knew it!
Posted by: DR.WTF at July 05, 2019 07:49 PM (aS1PU)
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That explains why I read garret's posts sort of swishy.

Posted by: Axeman at July 05, 2019 07:51 PM (YOhRS)

298 >>try to pay attention to the homosexuals

We do love the Home Improvement Posts and the 'Does this Messenger Bag make Me Look Gay Enough' Fashion Threads.

Posted by: garrett at July 05, 2019 07:51 PM (RL1kK)

299 Maybe someone should print a list of sexes here.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 07:51 PM (DRWZX)

300 Son of a bitch, now I can't remember who's a 'ron or 'ette now. This discussionabout who's a female here has got me confused...

Posted by: Delaforce at July 05, 2019 07:51 PM (mE05v)

301 I think of all the missed opportunities I had with single moronettes all because yall couldnt have the common decency to use a moniker that was clearly female oriented.

*sad trombone*

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at July 05, 2019 07:51 PM (+dsLj)

302 I thought garrett was just an antisemite, like me.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 05, 2019 07:51 PM (ykYG2)

303 299 Maybe someone should print a list of sexes here.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 07:51 PM (DRWZX)

Male
Female

That was easy.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 05, 2019 07:52 PM (NWiLs)

304 Is it wrong that I just imagined garrett flouncing away at his keyboard?

Posted by: SMH at July 05, 2019 07:52 PM (RU4sa)

305 Blacks seem to have more odd names than most, them and celebrities. They are what they are, no point in thinking about it.

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2019 07:52 PM (BbGew)

306 I love animals, my kids, and grand babies, fvck the touchy feely shit for every asshole in this country. A job needs done, get er done. I also don't want to die a slow death, CVII or screw it. This shit is getting out of control.

Posted by: Infidel at July 05, 2019 07:52 PM (BLFnH)

307 Maybe someone should print a list of sexes here.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 07:51 PM (DRWZX)
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I posted my preferred pronouns for days.

Posted by: Axeman (he/he/he) at July 05, 2019 07:52 PM (YOhRS)

308 Son of a bitch, now I can't remember who's a 'ron or 'ette now. This discussionabout who's a female here has got me confused...
Posted by: Delaforce at J

lol, you know, that is why everyone wears furry costumes at momes. that and the anonymous sex.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 05, 2019 07:52 PM (HALdu)

309 @299: "Maybe someone should print a list of sexes here."

Yeah, we might have to report Ace to some obscure Canadian or European human rights commission, if he's forbidding morons from self-identifying outside the traditional gender binary.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 05, 2019 07:52 PM (I/iGu)

310 Male
Female

That was easy.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 05, 2019 07:52 PM (NWiLs)

Wise ass...but I guess I teed that one up for ya ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 07:52 PM (DRWZX)

311 lol, you know, that is why everyone wears furry costumes at momes. that and the anonymous sex.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 05, 2019 07:52 PM (HALdu)

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Must be one of them weird CaliMoMees, cuz that doesn't happen at TxMoMees.

Posted by: SMH at July 05, 2019 07:53 PM (RU4sa)

312 Wise ass...but I guess I teed that one up for ya ha?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 07:52 PM (DRWZX)

Right over the plate.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 05, 2019 07:53 PM (NWiLs)

313 I think AP is angling for a gig at Reason.com.

They're eaten up with the "Both Sides" fallacy over there. I like to pop my head in every couple of days and check out their ridiculous headlines. I liked them better when they were just standard Libertarian batshit crazy.

Now they're Gramscian batshit crazy.

Posted by: McLurkerson at July 05, 2019 07:53 PM (+iRBQ)

314 Canada has shitty pols, too:

https://tinyurl.com/y3w7tzfh

'I'm your minister and you're a f---ing loser'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2019 07:53 PM (oVJmc)

315 if it hadn't been Bobama's DMH chief.
--------------------------------------------------
Although he did come out today against "open borders", basically saying it's a fucking idiotic idea.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 05, 2019 07:48 PM (JUUk1)

It'll be interesting to see how many Democrats start separating from the lefties. I know there are plenty of them who have been biting their tongues for years now, and sooner or later they're going to reach their limits.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2019 07:53 PM (cY3LT)

316 Does everybody hate "reaction videos" nearly as much as I do?

Posted by: Axeman (he/he/he) at July 05, 2019 07:54 PM (YOhRS)

317 I posted my preferred pronouns for days.

Oh great. There are different pronouns for AM and PM?

Posted by: mikeyG : G stands for Garbage Person at July 05, 2019 07:54 PM (LL1Be)

318 JeffG is on twitter and has shed the never trump stuff.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 05, 2019 07:54 PM (gC2IV)

319 >>Does everybody hate "reaction videos" nearly as much as I do?

I like the black guys watching metal.

Posted by: garrett at July 05, 2019 07:55 PM (RL1kK)

320 Is this a good time for my semi-annual statement that my handle doesn't necessarily refer to the hair on my back, but it could?

Posted by: fluffy at July 05, 2019 07:55 PM (dCRRg)

321 I know there are plenty of them who have been biting their tongues for years now, and sooner or later they're going to reach their limits.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2019 07:53 PM (cY3LT)

Your more optimistic than me.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 07:55 PM (DRWZX)

322 316 Does everybody hate "reaction videos" nearly as much as I do?

That'd be a yes.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 05, 2019 07:55 PM (O8WFE)

323 >>>We do love the Home Improvement Posts and the 'Does this Messenger Bag make Me Look Gay Enough' Fashion Threads.

I know, as you seem to comment on them a lot. I put those up to appease the more gayballz readers, such as yourself (themself?)

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:55 PM (PbpT7)

324 If people have preferred pronouns, does that mean you can't use second-person pronouns for xem?

Posted by: Axeman (he/he/he) at July 05, 2019 07:56 PM (YOhRS)

325 lol, you know, that is why everyone wears furry costumes at momes. that and the anonymous sex.
Posted by: yankeefifth

>Now I'm less inclined to go to one of those...

Posted by: Delaforce, Currently Very Confused and Worried at July 05, 2019 07:56 PM (mE05v)

326 Who is JeffG? There have been many Jeffs here, and I think all are gone, but I don't remember a JeffG.

Posted by: t-bird at July 05, 2019 07:56 PM (lK7fO)

327 Texas, where women are women and men are men.

Except in Dallas, Houston and Austin.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2019 07:56 PM (TDEVx)

328 >>Is this a good time for my semi-annual statement that my handle doesn't necessarily refer to the hair on my back, but it could?

Is this supposed to help us guess your gender?

Because, LauraW has a thick and lustrous pelt that covers her entire hump...

Posted by: garrett at July 05, 2019 07:56 PM (RL1kK)

329 "Black Guys listening to 2112 for the FIRST TIME!"

23 minutes later...why TF am I watching this?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 05, 2019 07:56 PM (O8WFE)

330

I like the black guys watching metal.
Posted by: garrett at July 05, 2019

That one is funny.

Posted by: Infidel at July 05, 2019 07:56 PM (BLFnH)

331 Wizard of Oz is coming on TCM at 8pm. Probably seen it 50 times so what's the difference to 51?

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2019 07:57 PM (BbGew)

332 Who do I send the dick pick to in order to prove my sex?

BTW If it's garret, forget it.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 05, 2019 07:57 PM (VkWRL)

333 Mayor and Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg said Friday that Democrats need to veer left of center in 2020, if they want to beat President Trump.

Good advise.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 07:57 PM (DRWZX)

334 JeffG is on twitter and has shed the never trump stuff.

"Hey guys. Sorry I abandoned you during the Big Fight! We can be friends again, right?"

whatever

Posted by: mikeyG : G stands for Garbage Person at July 05, 2019 07:57 PM (LL1Be)

335 "Black Guys listening to 2112 for the FIRST TIME!"

23 minutes later...why TF am I watching this?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 05, 2019 07:56 PM (O8WFE)
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That was a whole evening for me one night. I like those guys.

Posted by: Axeman (he/he/he) at July 05, 2019 07:57 PM (YOhRS)

336 This isn't exactly brand new... Jeh has been making noises like this for a few months.

I don't believe for one hot minute that Johnson suddenly cares about the border. He never did when he had the power.

I'm more curious as to who in the Democrat party instructed him to pretend to, and why. Or, whether he's playing his own game.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2019 07:57 PM (5aX2M)

337 Michelle Malkin has to be forever face-palming herself for taking on Analpundit when she started Hot Air.
Worst decision of her career.

Posted by: Lebron Horowitz at July 05, 2019 07:57 PM (UFgOG)

338 >>>318 JeffG is on twitter and has shed the never trump stuff.

I wasn't looking to knock JeffG, and I don't know what his current politics are. I was just using him as an example of someone you temporarily "know," mostly through online interactions, and asking, 'Does that sort of trifling acquaintance count as 'being friends'?"

I tend to think of a friend as someone you can ask for a big favor and who would feel obligated to try to grant it.

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:57 PM (PbpT7)

339 Pud Anal Hilt

From what I've heard, that's pretty close.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2019 07:57 PM (oVJmc)

340 >>Who do I send the dick pick to in order to prove my sex?

Fenelon does the Prayer Threads and the Sexing of Morons.

Posted by: garrett at July 05, 2019 07:58 PM (RL1kK)

341 "Did not realize that Mitt Romney paid 14% tax on 22 million dollars in income last year. I paid 40% on 129k "

I'll be on Medicare soon, thank you for the $52K contribution.

Tucker makes a good point ... why should actual work be taxed so much higher than free money from (subsidized) stocks? Sure we want to encourage investment, but not in China, and not in the corporations that write laws against the rest of us. Plus the commoners go to war to protect those globalist corporations .... and the banks got bailed out but still charge high rates ... and on and on.

It is true that the lower middle pays little, except they still pay 14% for "retirement" into the pretend SS vault. The bailed out big banks help the "poor" drive up personal and national debt, as the country runs up even more debt on the kid's credit card.

We're gonna need a bigger boat ... to Guantanamo.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 05, 2019 07:58 PM (Cus5s)

342 ME listening to 2112 for the FIRST TIME!

1. Holy shit this is the greatest thing I ever heard in my whole entire thirteen-year life!

2. Who wants my Kiss records?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 05, 2019 07:58 PM (O8WFE)

343 333 Mayor and Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg said Friday that Democrats need to veer left of center in 2020, if they want to beat President Trump.

Good advise.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 07:57 PM (DRWZX)

Yeah, everyone is sick of right of center Democrats.

Posted by: rickl at July 05, 2019 07:58 PM (sdi6R)

344 Who is JeffG? There have been many Jeffs here, and I think all are gone, but I don't remember a JeffG.
Posted by: t-bird at July 05, 2019 07:56 PM (lK7fO)

Goldstein. Protein Wisdom blog, which if it still exists, I haven't checked in a long time.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2019 07:58 PM (cY3LT)

345 Mayor and Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg said Friday that Democrats need to veer left of center in 2020, if they want to beat President Trump.

Good advise.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019

WTH, this is how you get more Trump.

Posted by: Infidel at July 05, 2019 07:58 PM (BLFnH)

346 > It'll be interesting to see how many Democrats start separating from the lefties.

I think there's going to be a big, big surprise in store for whichever one of the Kommunist Klown Kar gets nominated.
I've mentioned before that I have an older relative. Old-school trade union guy. Hates illegal aliens, hates gun control, hates high taxes, does not approve of gay marriage, but still votes D every election, because his Daddy and Grandaddy did.
Now, he might vote for Biden. Maybe.

He's not going to vote for Kameltoe, Fauxcahontas, ButtJizz, or O'Cuck, much less DeBolshevik or JellyBrained.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 05, 2019 07:58 PM (JUUk1)

347 I tend to think of a friend as someone you can ask for a big favor and who would feel obligated to try to grant it.

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:57 PM (PbpT7)
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Like tightening shelf brackets?

Posted by: Axeman (he/he/he) at July 05, 2019 07:59 PM (YOhRS)

348 Mayor and Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg said Friday that Democrats need to veer left of center in 2020, if they want to beat President Trump.

Good advise.
Posted by: Nevergiveup

You're a bit late for that!!

Posted by: Mr.Green at July 05, 2019 07:59 PM (mE05v)

349 331 Wizard of Oz is coming on TCM at 8pm. Probably seen it 50 times so what's the difference to 51?
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2019 07:57 PM (BbGew)

Did you at least watch Yankee Doodle Dandy yesterday?

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 05, 2019 07:59 PM (iqKGi)

350 Okay, so now I feel really bad about dragging JeffG into this.

Can we not talk about him now just so I'm not charged with having tried to knock him?

Honestly, his was just a name I thought of as being like Allah in the sense of 1, having briefly met IRL and 2 having had sporadic emails with for a year or two.

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 07:59 PM (PbpT7)

351 @338: "I tend to think of a friend as someone you can ask for a big favor and who would feel obligated to try to grant it."

Otherwise known as the cash bail standard.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 05, 2019 07:59 PM (I/iGu)

352 Must be one of them weird CaliMoMees, cuz that doesn't happen at TxMoMees.
Posted by: SMH at J

huh, you know, would have thought the Texas morons would have appreciated the anonymity of the furry costumes. guess they are more comfortable with letting the awkward moments that go with any intoxicated orgy slide.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 05, 2019 07:59 PM (HALdu)

353 Ace, et all;

I love ya Morons all to the very least of us.

But.

You keep getting this one issue entirely wrong.
The Democrats are NOT open boarders with hopes of giving the illegals voting rights. that would be entirely too risky and obvious. Risk is that they, being very pro-life and survivors of socialistic tyranny, would, once given free agency, turn on their benefactors and vote conservative.

No, the real play is right there in the battle against the citizenship question in the census. The Democrats are playing the F'ing game they played in the 1860's. The want a small number of their dedicated diehards to be able to wield out sized political power by way of being the minority eligible to vote in communities with high populations of those who can not vote and have no recourse against representatives who don't give a damn about them.

The Democrats will gerrymander their districts such that the minimum number of democrats can dominate large populations of "people" and thus save their larger numbers to dilute or usurp conservative bastions.

This is all about the 14th amendment.

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at July 05, 2019 07:59 PM (af5xa)

354 Who do I send the dick pick to in order to prove my sex?

Fenelon does the Prayer Threads and the Sexing of Morons.
Posted by: garrett at July 05, 2019 07:58 PM (RL1kK)

G-D no. The good lady would have a heart attack

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 07:59 PM (DRWZX)

355 A friend will help you deal with a body.

Posted by: garrett at July 05, 2019 08:00 PM (RL1kK)

356 A friend is someone you can ask to borrow an AR from and they say - sure.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 05, 2019 08:00 PM (VkWRL)

357 >>>Like tightening shelf brackets?

i wouldn't have to ask anyone for that. that wouldn't be a favor, it would be a physical impossibility.

These shelves are on the wall more securely than JV Last on Bill Kristol's mottled old man balls.

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 08:00 PM (PbpT7)

358 Who do I send the dick pick to in order to prove my sex?
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That's really cis-centric.

Posted by: Axeman (he/he/he) at July 05, 2019 08:00 PM (YOhRS)

359 > JeffG is on twitter and has shed the never trump stuff.

Yeah, he freely admits that he was mistaken about Trump.
Hell, I was mistaken about Trump. Not to the extent of voting for Hillary (I don't think JeffG voted for her, either), but I was deeply suspicious of someone so firmly embedded in the New York "elite" and Hollywood.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 05, 2019 08:01 PM (JUUk1)

360 356 A friend is someone you can ask to borrow an AR from and they say - sure.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 05, 2019 08:00 PM (VkWRL)

No they say and how many boxes of ammo did your want with that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 08:02 PM (85Gof)

361 "Fenelon does the Prayer Threads and the Sexing of Morons.
Posted by: garrett at July 05, 2019 07:58 PM (RL1kK) "

Oh well. She's pissed at me and likely believes I'm shallow. I made a joke about a Greek girl I knew years ago that likely now has a mustache and triceps like pork chops. She didn't like that.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 05, 2019 08:02 PM (VkWRL)

362 @355: "A friend will help you deal with a body."

See, problem with that idea, yesterday's friends have a way of turning into tomorrow's bodies.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 05, 2019 08:02 PM (I/iGu)

363 The only thing that is keeping me convinced that you are merely 'cock curious', Ace, is the fact that you haven't started posting phtographic studies of your shelving.

Yet.

Posted by: garrett at July 05, 2019 08:02 PM (RL1kK)

364 We don't need fairweather allies.

I would be happy to hear JeffG explain his assholery in the face of the threat from President FAB.
All of a sudden everybody's on the Trump train. Fickle bitches.

Posted by: mikeyG : G stands for Garbage Person at July 05, 2019 08:02 PM (LL1Be)

365 >>See, problem with that idea, yesterday's friends have a way of turning into tomorrow's bodies.

Circle of Life, Simba.

Posted by: garrett at July 05, 2019 08:03 PM (RL1kK)

366 "No they say and how many boxes of ammo did your want with that
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 08:02 PM (85Gof)"

See now, you truly know the meaning of real friendship.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 05, 2019 08:03 PM (VkWRL)

367 Yeah, he freely admits that he was mistaken about Trump.
Hell, I was mistaken about Trump. Not to the extent of voting for Hillary (I don't think JeffG voted for her, either), but I was deeply suspicious of someone so firmly embedded in the New York "elite" and Hollywood.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 05, 2019 08:01 PM (JUUk1)
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Me, too. I mean I voted for him--and was probably the most enthusiastic in my household of 4 adult voters. But I still was very wrong about how MOR he would be.

Posted by: Axeman (he/he/he) at July 05, 2019 08:03 PM (YOhRS)

368 Thanks. Looks like JeffG took a three-year break. Does not post much.

Posted by: t-bird at July 05, 2019 08:03 PM (QrTqV)

369 I tend to think of a friend as someone you can ask for a big favor and who would feel obligated to try to grant it.

I think the term is "alibi"

Posted by: Miklos, a good boy, a real life turn a-rounder at July 05, 2019 08:03 PM (QzkSJ)

370 Axeman, have no idea how that happened, as I have zero super-powers here, including italicans, etc., such that I don't even know how any of that stuff ever does work. Probably the universe telling me to give up on boring factoids pertinent to the putative topic, tho.

Exec summary: Trump seems to [mostly] have the right goals and instincts on borders/immigration, but results so far are pretty bad.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 05, 2019 08:03 PM (QDnY+)

371 A friend will help you deal with a body.
Posted by: garrett at

Brings shovels, lye and a tarp. No questions asked.

Posted by: Infidel at July 05, 2019 08:03 PM (BLFnH)

372 "Shelf with Supplements in Morning Sunlight"

Posted by: garrett at July 05, 2019 08:04 PM (RL1kK)

373 See, problem with that idea, yesterday's friends have a way of turning into tomorrow's bodies.
Posted by: Walter Freeman

>That's one way to describe Stalin's purge of Russia.

Posted by: Delaforce, Currently Very Confused and Worried at July 05, 2019 08:04 PM (mE05v)

374 >>>365 >>See, problem with that idea, yesterday's friends have a way of turning into tomorrow's bodies.

a friend is just a victim easily taken by surprise.

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 08:04 PM (PbpT7)

375 I know there are plenty of them who have been biting their tongues for years now, and sooner or later they're going to reach their limits.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2019 07:53 PM (cY3LT)

Your more optimistic than me.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 07:55 PM (DRWZX)

I figure it's like a conspiracy of silence, and if somebody breaks the silence, the flood gates might open.

For all the various interest groups who went Democrat for whatever reasons they did, many of them are not happy, and I just figure there are pols who want to cater to them.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2019 08:04 PM (cY3LT)

376 This is all about the 14th amendment.
Posted by: TSgt Ciz at July 05, 2019 07:59 PM (af5xa)

That is an excellent point.

14th amendment first, voting later.

Posted by: DR.WTF at July 05, 2019 08:04 PM (aS1PU)

377 Nood

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at July 05, 2019 08:04 PM (qSCcj)

378 It's not about illegals voting. It's about packing Democratic districts with illegals just before a census that, ideally for Democrats, won't be asking any citizenship questions.

End result: a number of shiny new Democratic representatives in targeted blue states, and an increase in the number of electoral votes.
Posted by: MW at July 05, 2019 07:09 PM (hNTtn)

It is really quite clever
- declare your city / state a sanctuary city / state
- illegal aliens flood in
- census takes straight up head count
- more electoral votes and more federal appropriations
- revoke sanctuary status
- keep federal money and representatives

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 05, 2019 08:04 PM (1g7ch)

379 In the 14th amendment, change "persons" to "Citizens" and the Democrats will stop all this open boarder BS.
The other alternative is to start placing all the illegals in conservative bastions to multiply the conservative vote. Again, when the Democrats start losing house seats to smaller numbers of conservative voters, they will find religion in defense of the boarders and well regulated immigration.

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at July 05, 2019 08:05 PM (af5xa)

380 > We don't need fairweather allies.

Who is "we" and who put you in charge of determining who "we" is?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 05, 2019 08:05 PM (JUUk1)

381 Did not realize that Mitt Romney paid 14% tax on 22 million dollars in income last year.

I paid 40% on 129k .

Just another reason for me to say fuck that guy.
Posted by: mikeyG : G stands for Garbage Person at J

you should sue someone because you got screwed

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 05, 2019 08:05 PM (HALdu)

382 What is the battle of two old queens?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2019 08:05 PM (PxX58)

383 Missed Yankee Doodle Dandy, was watching concert and fireworks

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2019 08:05 PM (BbGew)

384 >>
Exec summary: Trump seems to [mostly] have the right goals and instincts on borders/immigration, but results so far are pretty bad.

mostly agreed, but he is fighting two political parties, the entire DC bureaucracy, and thousands of Hawaiian judges.

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 08:05 PM (PbpT7)

385 I saw a messenger bag in ATACS. I have to say I really liked it.

See what this place does to you.

BTW if I get the urge to put up shelves, shoot me.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 05, 2019 08:05 PM (VkWRL)

386

Jehova?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 05, 2019 08:05 PM (aKsyK)

387 @ Burnt Toast,

Yup, you have it exactly right.

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at July 05, 2019 08:06 PM (af5xa)

388 382 -Every chess match?

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2019 08:06 PM (BbGew)

389 Brings shovels, lye and a tarp. No questions asked.

I have tarps and an entrenching tool in my truck now. I'll have to get lye or lime.

On the other hand if you're asking me to deal with your inconvenient corpse you should come up with your own lime.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 05, 2019 08:06 PM (fuK7c)

390 I always heard it as:

A friend will help you move.

A true friend will help you move a body.

Posted by: rickl at July 05, 2019 08:06 PM (sdi6R)

391 Righteous Anger Ace is still the best Ace. And as to Analpundit - why do we even mention this retard as "conservative" anymore. And, let's be honest, no one actually reads HotAir anymore anyway.

Posted by: Publius Redux at July 05, 2019 08:07 PM (kbhjs)

392 Did the SCOTUS decision really say that Commerce had the power to put the question on the census, but not if they did so with bad intent?

...

Probably one of the worst SCOTUS decisions in its' history..
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2019 07:12 PM (oVJmc)

That was SCOTUS being purely political while claiming Trump Admin was the one being political (which is asinine as the elected positions are inherently political).

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 05, 2019 08:08 PM (1g7ch)

393 I also read every comment in a male voice.
Posted by: Bill Kristol at July 05, 2019 07:40 PM (uEbPt)

Well not after you have met an ette at a meet up
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2019 07:41 PM (DRWZX)

I read all the 'ettes voices in a whiskey and Lucky Strikes Lauren Bacall voice.

Posted by: Grump928(C) muses at July 05, 2019 08:09 PM (aqMeV)

394 I think there's going to be a big, big surprise in store for whichever one of the Kommunist Klown Kar gets nominated.
I've mentioned before that I have an older relative. Old-school trade union guy. Hates illegal aliens, hates gun control, hates high taxes, does not approve of gay marriage, but still votes D every election, because his Daddy and Grandaddy did.
Now, he might vote for Biden. Maybe.

He's not going to vote for Kameltoe, Fauxcahontas, ButtJizz, or O'Cuck, much less DeBolshevik or JellyBrained.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 05, 2019 07:58 PM (JUUk1)

I know a retired union guy who says he still votes Democrat because he's afraid his pension will be raided.

By Republicans.

No one ever said these guys are bright.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2019 08:09 PM (cY3LT)

395 ace: "I tend to think of a friend as someone you can ask for a big favor and who would feel obligated to try to grant it."

Yeah, in the age of Farcebook, "friends" has a pretty loose reading.

I liked something you wrote once: Acquaintance
I liked something you wrote twice: Friend
I liked something you wrote thrice: Spouse

It's a silly age.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 05, 2019 08:09 PM (6eEQ+)

396 mikeyG: I've been in the same boat he's in, and some people still haven't forgiven me.
I was left adrift after the 2008 election, and so were a lot of people, and some people were frightening me with the stuff they posted, and I fixed on one blog that I thought (at the time) was making the most sense.
That blog... was Little Green Footballs.
I was wrong. Oh, how fucking wrong.
If you're telling me that Jeff has seen the light, I'll accept that. I basically have to.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 05, 2019 08:10 PM (ykYG2)

397 257 Say, what kind of name is "Jeh" anyway? It's like his parents wanted to name him James but gave up halfway through filling out the birth certificate.
____________

His middle name is "whatever."

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 05, 2019 08:10 PM (k4dH2)

398 Obligated?

Is that a New York thing?
East coast thing?

A friend of mine needs a big favor I feel no obligation whatsoever.
The only thing I feel is honored they would ask and joyful to help.

Posted by: teej at July 05, 2019 08:11 PM (MAJoQ)

399 I read all the 'ettes voices in a whiskey and Lucky Strikes Lauren Bacall voice.

Posted by: Grump928(C) muses at July 05, 2019 08:09 PM (aqMeV)

Not me. Having met a few, I read them in a smooth-but deadly southern bell sweet drawl or cowgirl with a loaded 44.

Just like mom.

(and yes, I did say 'smooth-butt' while referring to the Ettes...

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at July 05, 2019 08:13 PM (af5xa)

400 As I've said before, what Trump should do is say 'I am the President. I set Policy for my administration, not the Courts. Therefore, I am putting this question on the census as a matter of Policy because I, the President, think its important to know how many citizens we have in this country."
Posted by: Don Q at July 05, 2019 07:15 PM (NgKpN)

" And removing all questions regarding race and ethnicity because that is racist."

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 05, 2019 08:14 PM (1g7ch)

401 " And removing all questions regarding race and ethnicity because that is racist."

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 05, 2019 08:14 PM (1g7ch)

Are you channeling me or am I channeling you!?

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at July 05, 2019 08:15 PM (af5xa)

402 mikeyG: I've been in the same boat he's in, and some people still haven't forgiven me.

I forgive anyone who recognizes their error, admits it and apologizes.

I would listen to the explanation openly, but after the name-calling and shit-slinging from so-called conservatives for Trump-supporting allies like me?
I am left without a plethora of fucks to give.

Posted by: mikeyG : G stands for Garbage Person at July 05, 2019 08:15 PM (LL1Be)

403 >>>A friend of mine needs a big favor I feel no obligation whatsoever.

I should have said, "I would feel obligated to make up a good excuse when I say 'No.'"

Posted by: ace at July 05, 2019 08:16 PM (PbpT7)

404 Can you imagine the democrat spin if Trump were to remove questions about race and ethnicity?

"That racist Trump doesn't want you to know what race people are... because, um, uh... RACIST"

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at July 05, 2019 08:17 PM (af5xa)

405 LAST!

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at July 05, 2019 08:20 PM (af5xa)

406 So, different view on what the word friend means.

See, I have a lot of aquaintences that I get along with very well.

But friends? That is a small, tight unit and might as well be viewed as family that we have chosen each other to be.

Posted by: teej at July 05, 2019 08:21 PM (MAJoQ)

407 Can you imagine the democrat spin if Trump were to remove questions about race and ethnicity?

"That racist Trump doesn't want you to know what race people are... because, um, uh... RACIST"
Posted by: TSgt Ciz at July 05, 2019 08:17 PM (af5xa)

AOC 's head would explode because her ethnicity is her only identity.
She may just cease to exist altogether.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 05, 2019 08:21 PM (1g7ch)

408 Fuck you. Unless we invite you in, get out of my country assholes.

Posted by: Anchovy at July 05, 2019 08:25 PM (srWwQ)

409 The Democrats will gerrymander their districts such that the minimum number of democrats can dominate large populations of "people" and thus save their larger numbers to dilute or usurp conservative bastions.

This is all about the 14th amendment.

AOC showed the limits of that. The hard left can attack those seats from the left and tear them away into the hands of radicals that will make it hard for them in national elections.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 05, 2019 08:26 PM (x7BO0)

410 313 I think AP is angling for a gig at Reason.com.

Nope, Commentary.

Posted by: Noah Rothman's Gay Rabbi at July 05, 2019 08:26 PM (SQJ3d)

411 A friend will let you hide in their chicken coop or smokehouse when the revenuers are after you.

Posted by: Eromero at July 05, 2019 08:33 PM (UUkQp)

412 Tidnup Halla Monroe was the third brother responsible for remodeling the Douglas' bedroom on Green Acres.

Posted by: Johnny Rotten at July 05, 2019 08:45 PM (kR3UB)

413 think ace would really rather we not doxx people on his blog.

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The second funniest thing I ever saw at Hotair was Allahpundit insisting his users switch to Facebook and their terms of service while maintaining his own anonymity.

The funniest was the mass exodus from Hotair, to the point where the 2016 election night had fewer than 100 total comments over 24 hours.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. at July 05, 2019 08:46 PM (rKs0r)

414 It's okay, Jonah Goldberg was lamenting people who would display the Betsy Ross flag to spite the progs. I mean, you know white racists fly that flag.

Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at July 05, 2019 09:05 PM (J70i0)

415
The funniest was the mass exodus from Hotair, to the point where the 2016 election night had fewer than 100 total comments over 24 hours.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. at July 05, 2019 08:46 PM (rKs0r)

***

word.

Didn't even click on it once on election night 2016

Posted by: Publius Redux at July 05, 2019 09:13 PM (kbhjs)

416 212 As noted, DACA wasn't even an EO but a Presidential Memo.

No court challenge there.

Well yes there is but it's 5 years after the fact.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2019 07:37 PM (TDEVx)

Just as some cases are "Super Precedent" (Slow Joe or Snarlin' Arlen?), some EOs are "Super EOs", that can't be undone by a succeeding President.

Posted by: Fox2! at July 05, 2019 11:47 PM (MwFQu)

417 AOC 's head would explode because her ethnicity is her only identity.
She may just cease to exist altogether.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 05, 2019 08:21 PM (1g7ch)

"I think, therefor I am."
(Some Frog mathematician, neither Fermat nor Galois)

"I don't think ...."

Posted by: Fox2! at July 05, 2019 11:50 PM (MwFQu)

418 AllahPundit is such a pathetic wretch. How miserable would one have to be to write the filth "he" does? Almost as bad as the gormless cretins who work for CNN...

Posted by: setnaffa at July 06, 2019 09:22 AM (1EAeT)

419 Ace, what is Allapundits identity please

Posted by: Aceqiestions at July 06, 2019 04:07 PM (5f0Sh)

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