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Sunday Morning Book Thread 06-30-2019
Cottage Club Library, Princeton University
Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon, the overweight, the undertall, the obese, the overly-adipose spheres, and all-around endomorphs. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, writing, and publishing by escaped oafs who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which were unfortunately ruined shortly after this photograph was taken when the guy was beaten up by 4 enraged pimps for dressing "like a damn fool".
Pic Note Now that's some fine woodwork there:
The library is the most impressive room at Cottage and modeled after the 14th century Merton Library at Oxford. All library oak was also supplied by Morant and Company in London (the same dealer that supplied all of the Gallery wood). McKim measured the original library at Merton and made modern adjustments to fit the library space.Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Pssst! Want To See Some Old Tool Manufacturer's Catalogs? Hank Curmudgeon e-mails:
So I'm bidding on an antique vise on eBay. My father had one identical to the one in the eBay listing and his got tossed after his passing by my lovely relatives who cleaned out his basement before I could blink. Anyway, in trying to do some research on the vise he had I stumbled across this exceptionally deep rabbit hole of old and, in most cases long since gone, tool manufacturer's catalogs. Some seriously interesting stuff for those into DIY and tools. Everything can be read online or downloaded as desired.Here is the link to the good stuff. HC also warns:
Tool guys take heed, it's hours of time lost if you dare enter...So beware.
It Pays To Increase Your Word Power® TACTURIENCY is the desire to touch something. Usage: Joe Biden's preferred pronoun is 'The Ambassador of Tacturiency.'
Trump’s opponents appeared less empathetic. They seemed to put orthodoxy first, and then made the people follow it. Where Trump had a new theory for every perceived loser; his Republican rivals pigeonholed supposed losers into existing and narrow set remedies. The media predictably fixated on Trump’s money, his crudity, his questionable ethics, his past bankruptcies, his loose mouth, his lack of political experience, and his amateurish staff, and never saw what was right before their eyes: Trump of all people talked of people as people, especially those often forgotten if not despised.Emphasis mine. Although Hanson doesn't say this, it sounds like this could've been his "come to Jesus" moment with Trump. For me, my CTJ moment didn't happen until just before the election, as I was voting primarily against Hillary rather than for Trump. I could not discount the arguments being made by those who would later coalesce into the "NeverTrump" contingent about his liberal past and scant evidence of conservative leanings, but I heard him speak and it struck me, here is a man who loves America. He may be a blustering blowhard and who knows what he'll actually do if he's elected and will pop out of his mouth next, but I could sense his love for this country. This is pretty much what I told a friend of mine just before the election. She was dreading the seemingly inevitable coronation of Hillary, and did not like Trump's buffoonery, so I just told her, look, I agree, Trump is indeed everything you say, but the man loves America. Our last president hates America and the only thing Hillary loves is herself. So no matter how bad Trump could possibly turn out to be, Hillary would be far worse. She is now a happy Trump supporter even though she still thinks he's a buffoon. I was happy I could help her get to her personal CTJ moment with Trump. By the way, while looking for VDH's book on Amazon, I stumbled across this one, The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 37 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President. When my eyeballs stopped rolling, I thought of a more accurate title for it, 37 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Who Hate Trump and Who Are Extremely Butthurt Because Hillary Lost Assess a President Without Ever Seeing, Speaking With, or Examining Him. Back in the day, Senator Barry Goldwater won a defamation suit under similar circumstances. This prompted the APA to add a section to their Principles of Medical Ethics which states that it is unethical for psychiatrists to give a professional opinion about public figures whom they have not examined in person, which became known as the Goldwater Rule. The blurb for this alarmist book mentions this rule by name but then says yeah, but we're going to go ahead and do it anyway. Because Orange Man Bad. Kind of like the NY Times guy who argued that Trump posed such an existential threat to The Natural Order of Things that traditional journalistic standards must be discarded and replaced with Orange Man Bad.
Or as a rabid Trump supporter and lifelong friend put it to me during the primary when I grilled him on Trump’s ideas and past: “Do you ever wake up without a job? Why can’t someone in China or Vietnam write a book or one of your columns just as good as you can for half the cost? Why doesn’t everybody get tenure like yours? Why doesn’t a college just bring in cheaper people from overseas to replace you guys at half the cost?”
Books By Morons I haven't plugged this book in awhile, so maybe some of you morons don't know about it. A few years ago, longtime moron commenter Muldoon got his hands on a diary his father wrote during his time in the military during WWII. He used it as a basis to write a WWII novel,
To Save Us All From Ruin: A Muldoon Adventure, about which the Amazon blurb says:
The Muldoon brothers are ordinary Northeastern Colorado farm boys. After Pearl Harbor they heed their nation’s call. Each of the three boys takes a different path.It is available as a Kindle edition for $5.00. I have not personally read it, but it has been well-received among the Horde. ___________ Here's one from a moron who I don't think hangs out around here anymore (unless under a different nic). Elsinore Canyon, a modern take on Hamlet, was good enough to be the Kirkus Reviews Best Indie Book of 2014:
It’s now 1944. Allied invasion forces are trapped on the beaches of the small Italian town of Anzio. Keeping them from breaking out of the beachhead is the infamous Anzio Annie, a German weapon of unimaginable destructive power.
How do these brothers wind up in the countryside of central Italy teaming up in a daring mission to destroy the deadly Anzio Annie with the entire success of the Allied outbreak hanging in the balance?
"The strength of this sort of adaptation lies in showing how powerful and relevant the original story remains, a challenge the novel tackles wonderfully. The modernization works nearly seamlessly, transposing the politics of medieval Denmark to a Southern California corporate and Catholic school culture. What’s more, the embellishments to the characters make them truly come alive."The Kindle edition is only $2.99. ___________ Moron author Vince Millam has just released The Amazon Job, the fourth thriller featuring ex-Delta operator Case Lee
-- Kirkus Reviews
Former Delta operator Case Lee is contracted to extract a lost Swiss bio-prospector from Brazil, where he learns the scientist has vanished with an incredible organic substance that has the potential for genocide.Case Lee, by the way, still lives on his old wooden boat -- the Ace of Spades. The Amazon Job was released a few weeks ago, and ranks in the top twenty among Espionage Thrillers and top forty among Thriller & Suspense Action Fiction. It's at a new release price of $0.99 which will go another few weeks. ___________
Case is plunged into the pursuit of his life through dark rain forest and the gritty slums of Rio—where victory is defined by staying alive against ruthless spies, an underworld of drug dealers, and deep-shadow conspirators.
The Amazon Job is the fourth standalone novel in the high-octane Case Lee espionage thriller series. If you like conflicted heroes, non-stop action, and treacherous global threats, then you’ll love Vince Milam’s gripping novel.
The great @LibertyConTN $0.99 #BookDeal grows yet again!
— Hans G. Schantz (@AetherCzar) June 27, 2019
Now @DeploraBoule and Mikhail Voloshin join @NickColeBooks, @NerdKing52, @MorlockP, @DeclanFinnBooks, @robkroese, @neovictorian23, @AetherCzar, @JohnTaloni, and @WoodFenton on your reading list.https://t.co/cicPAyGjlF pic.twitter.com/LeP0OsKC1I
A number of books by moron authors on sale for 99 cents each:
With the LibertyCon Science Fiction Convention about to convene in Chattanooga, Tennessee, some attending authors and friends are offering a few of their most popular ebooks for only $0.99. For most books, the sale begins 12 am PDT Wednesday 6/26 through 12 am PDT Wednesday 7/3 on Amazon, (12 am GMT 6/26 through 12 am GMT 7/3 on Amazon.co.uk). The author’s chosen start and end dates may vary – always confirm the price before you buy.Full list of books at the link. ___________ Moron author TheJamesMadison writes:
Some may remember that in the very earliest days of the Book Thread, I promoted a fantasy novel. I've since pulled the novel from Amazon, but I had already written another in the same universe. It's a focused story about faith in a world that has lost sight of the eternal.The fantasy book is called Crystal Embers:
I've submitted the book to the Kindle Storyteller Award, so reviews are big! Review away!
A civil war ends, and a knight returns home to a land and wife he no longer knows. A wife mourns over her lost child as her husband returns from years of civil strife. Alone, they have nothing, but together perhaps they could rebuild. Before they can try on their own, though, they encounter a dragon on their land. Swept up in the flying monster's beauty and power, they pack up and leave the home that holds nothing for them anymore. The pair travel through the war torn countryside, seeing the remnants of violence that plague the land while chasing a dragon that flies above it all. In a land of dying magic and open wounds, follow the knight and his lady as they search for meaning in a new world for both of them.Pre-order $2.99 on Kindle. If you buy it today, it will be downloaded to your Kindle automatically on July 1st. ___________
Moron Recommendations Last week we had some enthusiastic recommendations for a YA series I had never heard of:
The Chronicles of Prydain. Most people have heard of Disney's awful Black Cauldron. A terrible adaptation of the source material. But the series comprises four excellent volumes. The chief moral lessons seem to be humility and prudence. There are some genuinely creepy elements (undead warriors). A strange but delightful combination of silly and serious characters and genuine growth of the characters across all for volumes.Yeah, as I remember, The Black Cauldron came out during the time when Disney's animated production was in a serious slump. So it was pretty crappy. I'm happy to hear the books were much better. And The Black Cauldron was actually the 2nd in the series, which started out with The Book of Three:
Posted by: Max Power at June 23, 2019 12:17 PM (QCc6B)
Since The Book of Three was first published in 1964, young readers have been enthralled by the adventures of Taran the Assistant Pig-keeper and his quest to become a hero. Taran is joined by an engaging cast of characters that includes Eilonwy, the strong-willed and sharp-tongued princess; Fflewddur Fflam, the hyperbole-prone bard; the ever-faithful Gurgi; and the curmudgeonly Doli--all of whom become involved in an epic struggle between good and evil that shapes the fate of the legendary land of Prydain.The Kindle edition is available for < $6. And, maybe a bit ominously, the Amazon blurb says:
Released over a period of five years, Lloyd Alexander's beautifully written tales not only captured children's imaginations but also garnered the highest critical praise. The Black Cauldron was a Newbery Honor Book, and the final volume in the chronicles, The High King, crowned the series by winning the Newbery Medal for "the most distinguished contribution to American literature for children."
This title has Common Core connections.Hmmm... I have no idea what that might mean. But if they don't screw with the text of the novels themselves, I'd say you can just ignore it. ___________
177 One fairly recent (post WWII) writer was was remarkably even handed about politics was Michael Gilbert, the Brit mystery writer. If you just read one of his books, you might decide he was left, or he was right. Read several, and you'll be confused, as I was. Anyone could be the good guy. And he touches on politics often.E-versions of this author's books don't exist, and most of them seem to be out of print. But The Queen Against Karl Mullen sounds interesting:
Turns out he was the Tory party's solicitor in Maggie's day. I should have seen that. Could any leftist portray conservatives favorably? I'm not sure even Orwell could.
One I'd recommend for today is Flash Point, which is a portrayal of the Deep State at work. Labour is scum, but hard-core real Communists prove helpful. Another is The Queen Against Karl Mullen, which is, mirabile dictu, even handed about apartheid.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 23, 2019 10:36 AM (VaN/j)
Karl Mullen is a brutal South African secret policeman who is in Great Britain to seek the extradition of a black activist. His very presence in the country is a political embarrassment to the government. Then, there is an accusation of shoplifting and the witness to this crime ends up dead. He turns out to be the man sought by Mullen, who now faces trial for murder. Against him is the whole panoply of the state, along with activist groups and public opinion, whilst his defence is being conducted by a firm of lawyers who admit to knowing little of the criminal law. In addition, there is one London newspaperman who is determined to see fair play. And so, let the lawyers games and stances begin … This is a novel about courtroom drama and the seedier underbelly of the law which rarely sees the light of day. Justice, however, must prevail.I searched for "Flash Point", but got a bunch of results that looked like gay pr0n, i.e cover art of shirtless, buff dudes flexing their abs. Found the actual novel when I included 'Gilbert' in the search terms. Flash Point, is indeed about the machinations of top-level government officials who do what they do because politics:
Will Dylan is an electoral favourite – intelligent, sharp and good-looking, he is the government’s new golden boy. Jonas Killey is a small-time lawyer – determined, uncompromising and obsessed, he is hounding Dylan in the hope of bringing him into disrepute. Believing he has information that can connect Dylan with an illegal procedure during a trade union merger, he starts to spread the word, provoking a top-level fluttering. At the crucial time of a general election, no government can afford bad press. Jonas suddenly finds himself pursued by those who want to keep him quiet, but he is determined that the truth will be heard.Deep state, indeed. Inexpensive copies of Gilbert's books can be found on Abebooks. ___________ So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm. What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.
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Posted by: JT at June 30, 2019 08:59 AM (5kkU5)
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bookseses! precious bookseses!
Posted by: Bandersnatch Smiegol at June 30, 2019 08:59 AM (fuK7c)
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Books!
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:00 AM (cfSRQ)
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Tolle Lege
Stopped at used book store but only picked up The Hundred Days from Patrick O'Brien's series missing The Yellow Admiral
Stopped at used book store but only picked up The Hundred Days from Patrick O'Brien's series missing The Yellow Admiral
Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2019 09:01 AM (BbGew)
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Princeton boys tip cows on weekends.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 30, 2019 09:02 AM (EZebt)
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I like today's word. John used to joke that a shopped by touch. I'm sure I've used the "We look with our eyes, not our hands." line with my kids, but it isn't really true for me.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 30, 2019 09:02 AM (uquGJ)
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Good Sunday morning, horde!
TACTURIENCY is the desire to touch something.
My daughter and I both have this, bad. Taking a walk, have to touch certain trees and other things that look like they have a nice texture.
When I was living and working in Wyoming, I was petting a customer's fur coat before I could stop myself. Good thing she had a sense of humor!
TACTURIENCY is the desire to touch something.
My daughter and I both have this, bad. Taking a walk, have to touch certain trees and other things that look like they have a nice texture.
When I was living and working in Wyoming, I was petting a customer's fur coat before I could stop myself. Good thing she had a sense of humor!
Posted by: April at June 30, 2019 09:03 AM (OX9vb)
Posted by: JT at June 30, 2019 09:04 AM (5kkU5)
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Kudos to Hank for finding that link to old catalogs.
In a past life I was a traditional furnituremaker in a Boston shop and we'd go all over New England to pick up both vintage tool catalogs and tools.
I fear my kids will not be interested in my stash after I am gone.
In a past life I was a traditional furnituremaker in a Boston shop and we'd go all over New England to pick up both vintage tool catalogs and tools.
I fear my kids will not be interested in my stash after I am gone.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 30, 2019 09:04 AM (Y4EXg)
Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2019 09:04 AM (rqoAH)
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Those pants are fine. I would wear them to pimp hoes in my backyard.
Posted by: Huggy Bear at June 30, 2019 09:05 AM (UdKB7)
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booken morgen horden
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 30, 2019 09:05 AM (dm05u)
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Just "read" on Audible (does that count?) "The Cruel Sea" at the recent recommendation of a fellow moron. Thanks! It was great content and great writing.
Posted by: Smilin Jack and I search with DuckDuckGo at June 30, 2019 09:05 AM (Ph4Ht)
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'Taking a walk, have to touch certain trees and other things that look like they have a nice texture. '
Me too!
Me too!
Posted by: Joe Biteum at June 30, 2019 09:06 AM (UdKB7)
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Good morning fellow Book Threadists. Hope everyone had a great week of reading.
Posted by: JTB at June 30, 2019 09:06 AM (bmdz3)
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A thumbs up recommendation on To Save Us All from Ruin
Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2019 09:06 AM (BbGew)
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Regarding 'those pants''. Sadly, I'm old enough to remember seeing many pairs like them on guys who had less than perfect physiques.. Ah, the 70's.
Posted by: Tuna at June 30, 2019 09:07 AM (jm1YL)
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Princeton boys tip cows on weekends.
I went to a literal cow college. One night we got drunk and stoned and went out to try cow tipping.
We couldn't find a cow.
I went to a literal cow college. One night we got drunk and stoned and went out to try cow tipping.
We couldn't find a cow.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, what is a proud Nitwit Lion at June 30, 2019 09:07 AM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 30, 2019 09:08 AM (Z+IKu)
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Howdy Book Nerds,
Finished "The Rommel Papers" that I mentioned several weeks ago. Published in 1953 and edited by B.H. Liddell Hart it's a great read about a great general. I wonder if Rommel had survived the war would he have been tried for war crimes? Early in his May 1940 rampage through France he writes about a French officer that refused to surrender. Rommel writes: "But he curtly refused to come with us, so, after summoning him three times to get in (a tank), there was nothing for it but to shoot him."
I know it's wrong, very wrong, but I laughed when I read that. I imagined American and British officers at his possible trial telling him: "Erwin, don't worry about this charge. We also wanted to shoot a crap load of French officers."
Finished "The Rommel Papers" that I mentioned several weeks ago. Published in 1953 and edited by B.H. Liddell Hart it's a great read about a great general. I wonder if Rommel had survived the war would he have been tried for war crimes? Early in his May 1940 rampage through France he writes about a French officer that refused to surrender. Rommel writes: "But he curtly refused to come with us, so, after summoning him three times to get in (a tank), there was nothing for it but to shoot him."
I know it's wrong, very wrong, but I laughed when I read that. I imagined American and British officers at his possible trial telling him: "Erwin, don't worry about this charge. We also wanted to shoot a crap load of French officers."
Posted by: Jake Holenhead at June 30, 2019 09:08 AM (vJVIn)
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Cottage Club has a nice little plaque in the library that notes F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote his first novel in the room.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, its morning in America at June 30, 2019 09:08 AM (Z216Q)
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Reading a trilogy of books by Enemies Foreign And Domestic Matthew Bracken.
Story starts in 2011 and new Dem Pres cannot get movement of gun control. So he sets up a rogue ATF force to stag killings and get Assault Weapons banned. Proceeds to blame Militia groups and Gun stores and gun owners.
I am 75% of the way through book 1. I have never been so pissed, scared, and saddened by a book. I am going to finish book 1 but cannot decide what to do with book 2 and 3.
regards
Story starts in 2011 and new Dem Pres cannot get movement of gun control. So he sets up a rogue ATF force to stag killings and get Assault Weapons banned. Proceeds to blame Militia groups and Gun stores and gun owners.
I am 75% of the way through book 1. I have never been so pissed, scared, and saddened by a book. I am going to finish book 1 but cannot decide what to do with book 2 and 3.
regards
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2019 09:09 AM (JFO2v)
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Having read the content, one of the things I think is going on that VDH is talking about is a new understanding of where we are as a culture.
At the core of the dustup between the "French Davidians" and the anti-liberals is the realization that classical liberalism itself has failed. A world of pure individualism inevitably leads to some form of tyranny because people are interdependent.
So if you have a "right" to health care, someone has to provide it. Also, your "right" to an indentity can only be sustained by compelling other people to observe it.
In a sense, the coming religious persecutions will be worse than those under Diocletian because all he wanted was the pinch of incense and the drop of wine before his altar.
The new left largely wants religious people simply wiped out. They aren't interested in conversion but annihilation.
The French Davidians either can't get this or are being paid to be willfully blind to it.
The thing is, once you throw aside the constraints of liberalism, the political field opens up for new alliances and new tactics.
It's like the creation of the line of scrimmage and the forward pass. We aren't playing rugby any more, but the Frenchists won't admit it.
At the core of the dustup between the "French Davidians" and the anti-liberals is the realization that classical liberalism itself has failed. A world of pure individualism inevitably leads to some form of tyranny because people are interdependent.
So if you have a "right" to health care, someone has to provide it. Also, your "right" to an indentity can only be sustained by compelling other people to observe it.
In a sense, the coming religious persecutions will be worse than those under Diocletian because all he wanted was the pinch of incense and the drop of wine before his altar.
The new left largely wants religious people simply wiped out. They aren't interested in conversion but annihilation.
The French Davidians either can't get this or are being paid to be willfully blind to it.
The thing is, once you throw aside the constraints of liberalism, the political field opens up for new alliances and new tactics.
It's like the creation of the line of scrimmage and the forward pass. We aren't playing rugby any more, but the Frenchists won't admit it.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:10 AM (cfSRQ)
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Oregon Muse, The wood and craftmanship in that library is beyond spectacular. Probably the nicest oak I've seen.
Also, I have been enjoying those drawings you started including in the post. Today's is just so pleasant and relaxing. Looking at it is better than taking blood pressure medicine.
Also, I have been enjoying those drawings you started including in the post. Today's is just so pleasant and relaxing. Looking at it is better than taking blood pressure medicine.
Posted by: JTB at June 30, 2019 09:10 AM (bmdz3)
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I was accepted at Princeton.
No way I was going to college in Jersey, though.
Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2019 09:04 AM (rqoAH)
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I remember Dave Barry writing something to the effect of:
"Richard Nixon then went off to live in a state of disgrace.*
*Otherwise known as New Jersey."
I was accepted at Princeton.
No way I was going to college in Jersey, though.
Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2019 09:04 AM (rqoAH)
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I remember Dave Barry writing something to the effect of:
"Richard Nixon then went off to live in a state of disgrace.*
*Otherwise known as New Jersey."
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:12 AM (cfSRQ)
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>>The French Davidians either can't get this or are being paid to be willfully blind to it.
I saw the French Davidians open up for the Branch Dividians in Waco back in 93.
They were on fire that night!
I saw the French Davidians open up for the Branch Dividians in Waco back in 93.
They were on fire that night!
Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2019 09:12 AM (rqoAH)
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Read "You Have the Right to Remain Innocent " by Law Professor James Duane. You may have seen his great YouTube video "Don't Talk to the Police".
Prosecutors and police tell their kids "don't talk to police. Just say 'I want a lawyer' and shut up." The book explains with clear examples of why this is wise. Too many cops and prosecutors are unethical.
Prosecutors and police tell their kids "don't talk to police. Just say 'I want a lawyer' and shut up." The book explains with clear examples of why this is wise. Too many cops and prosecutors are unethical.
Posted by: Smilin Jack and I search with DuckDuckGo at June 30, 2019 09:12 AM (Ph4Ht)
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Last week we were asked for recommendations for books for children. I would suggest the "Green Knowe" books by L. M. Boston. These books are set in an ancient English country house by a river. They involve the adventures of various children visiting Green Knowe. They are fantastical, whimsical and sometimes quite scary. I read them with pleasure for the first time when I was 10 years old and I still read them today when I am in my 60s.
Posted by: John F. MacMichael at June 30, 2019 09:13 AM (iuRR5)
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A tardy recommend from me for Lloyd Alexanders' Prydain Chronicles; they are an awesomely good series, and the Disney animated version was an atrocity ... (Although it scared the heck out of my daughter when she was six or seven...) I really wonder what Peter Jackson could have done with making a series of movies based on the Chronicles - I'll bet it would have been awesome!
Working my way this week through Peter Lovesey's "Bertie" series, and Sarah Hoyt's Musketeer mysteries. I hope to have the next Luna City installment up by next week - Luna City Behind the 8 Ball - as I need one more element for the cover ...
Working my way this week through Peter Lovesey's "Bertie" series, and Sarah Hoyt's Musketeer mysteries. I hope to have the next Luna City installment up by next week - Luna City Behind the 8 Ball - as I need one more element for the cover ...
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at June 30, 2019 09:13 AM (xnmPy)
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Currently reading "Paris In The Terror" by Stanley Loomis. Published in 1964 it's a fascinating history of the French Revolution and the period called The Terror (most of my knowledge of that time comes from the movie "Start the Revolution Without Me").
Most historians consider The Terror, or murder-fest, as having occurred from June 1793-July 1794. Loomis focuses on three major characters: Charlotte Corday who killed the human monster Jean-Paul Marat, Georges Danton and Maximilien Robespierre. Just like the ones they sent to the guillotine both Danton and Robespierre were also beheaded by the National Razor of France.
Most historians consider The Terror, or murder-fest, as having occurred from June 1793-July 1794. Loomis focuses on three major characters: Charlotte Corday who killed the human monster Jean-Paul Marat, Georges Danton and Maximilien Robespierre. Just like the ones they sent to the guillotine both Danton and Robespierre were also beheaded by the National Razor of France.
Posted by: Jake Holenhead at June 30, 2019 09:14 AM (vJVIn)
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Good morning, fellow readers.
Still going through Peter Fleming's book Operation Sea Lion. A most worthy book, by a master stylist. Lots of stuff I did not know in it, which makes it better.
Still going through Peter Fleming's book Operation Sea Lion. A most worthy book, by a master stylist. Lots of stuff I did not know in it, which makes it better.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 30, 2019 09:14 AM (u82oZ)
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As some of the Horde knows, I participate in Eucharistic Adoration at my parish - normally between 0200-0300 Fridays. Last week my relief did not show and her relief did not show. So, in essence, I was there all night. Luckily, we have a huge library available. I spent most of the time reading Bishop Fulton Sheen's books. The Seven Last Words jumped out at me. I had no idea Bishop Sheen authored dozens of volumes starting in the 30s. Wow.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 30, 2019 09:15 AM (Y4EXg)
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Book nerds.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2019 09:15 AM (PxX58)
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Cottage Club has a nice little plaque in the library that notes F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote his first novel in the room.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, its morning in America at June 30, 2019 09:08 AM (Z216Q)
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Huh. I did not know that but am not surprised.
Cottage Club has a nice little plaque in the library that notes F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote his first novel in the room.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, its morning in America at June 30, 2019 09:08 AM (Z216Q)
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Huh. I did not know that but am not surprised.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 30, 2019 09:15 AM (EZebt)
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OT but here in NYC preparing to go to Sunday Mass, I see the local news is all about the "pride" marches.
Yes, there are two.
One that is the 'largest ever" with floats and corporate sponsorship, the other, an "alternative Pride March." Nope, it's not straights making a statement....but no. that parade is to protest the commercialization of the march and refocus on "activism."
Activism? About what? They have marriage, they have anti-discrimination laws, they can adopt, they have drag library sessions for children, they can compel people to make cakes. What's left to be activist about?
The love that dare not speak its name is now the love that won't shut the hell up.
Speaking of which, in a nearby park there's a performance of "the Importance of Being Ernest" by Wilde with the genders switched.
Yes, there are two.
One that is the 'largest ever" with floats and corporate sponsorship, the other, an "alternative Pride March." Nope, it's not straights making a statement....but no. that parade is to protest the commercialization of the march and refocus on "activism."
Activism? About what? They have marriage, they have anti-discrimination laws, they can adopt, they have drag library sessions for children, they can compel people to make cakes. What's left to be activist about?
The love that dare not speak its name is now the love that won't shut the hell up.
Speaking of which, in a nearby park there's a performance of "the Importance of Being Ernest" by Wilde with the genders switched.
Posted by: vivi at June 30, 2019 09:15 AM (11H2y)
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Thanks for the link to the LibertyCon book sale, OM. I've already downloaded a couple.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 09:15 AM (kQs4Y)
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I am reading a biography of N.C. Wyeth, partly in anticipation of a special exhibit at the Brandywine this summer.
It is one of two lent to me by someone I knew from fishing circles. He knew I was an Andrew Wyeth fanboi and wanted to broaden my horizons. I read one of them back then, the current one (Michaelis) is much better.
Friend was an interesting guy. Viet Nam age, he spent it in a National Guard cavalry unit ("think George Bush, except with horses"). And then he disappeared, poof. Gone.
And now I note that I am reading an author signed copy of the book I never got a chance to return.
It is one of two lent to me by someone I knew from fishing circles. He knew I was an Andrew Wyeth fanboi and wanted to broaden my horizons. I read one of them back then, the current one (Michaelis) is much better.
Friend was an interesting guy. Viet Nam age, he spent it in a National Guard cavalry unit ("think George Bush, except with horses"). And then he disappeared, poof. Gone.
And now I note that I am reading an author signed copy of the book I never got a chance to return.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 30, 2019 09:16 AM (fuK7c)
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Interestingly, the left is becoming wise to this development and - in typical fashion - is claiming that the religious right is now openly embracing theocracy.
In this they are (of course) joined by the Davidians, who in one breath claim that the Wartime Conservatives (Will Chamberlain's term) are a bunch of Catholic theocrats wishing to impose "Throne and Altar" on America, and in the next insisting that the left will ultimately respect "serious, sincere religious belief" as an exemption from following their dogma.
And yet Michigan's Attorney General has decreed that "religion can't be used as an excuse for hate."
She's literally going to re-write dogma because she knows better, which is why she wants all adoption agencies in the state to offer services to same-sex parents.
All have capitulated save the Catholics, which likely explains why it's the Catholic right that is leading the charge.
I wonder what Buckley would say to all of this?
In this they are (of course) joined by the Davidians, who in one breath claim that the Wartime Conservatives (Will Chamberlain's term) are a bunch of Catholic theocrats wishing to impose "Throne and Altar" on America, and in the next insisting that the left will ultimately respect "serious, sincere religious belief" as an exemption from following their dogma.
And yet Michigan's Attorney General has decreed that "religion can't be used as an excuse for hate."
She's literally going to re-write dogma because she knows better, which is why she wants all adoption agencies in the state to offer services to same-sex parents.
All have capitulated save the Catholics, which likely explains why it's the Catholic right that is leading the charge.
I wonder what Buckley would say to all of this?
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:16 AM (cfSRQ)
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willowed:
I had fun driving my friend the County Commissioner in a small town parade yesterday.
The town had a lot more than the listed 163 of it's people there. He is a fiscal conservative, so he did not throw candy to the children, like all the other entrants. He will do that when he runs for reelection.
We were moved up in line to drive behind a large single cattle carrying trailer. The business was purebred Texas Longhorn ranching. So we were behind a very large BS cow the whole way. I noted the symbology.
Good fun! I kept thinking of bread and circuses as the tyke scrambled to gather the free candy.
I had fun driving my friend the County Commissioner in a small town parade yesterday.
The town had a lot more than the listed 163 of it's people there. He is a fiscal conservative, so he did not throw candy to the children, like all the other entrants. He will do that when he runs for reelection.
We were moved up in line to drive behind a large single cattle carrying trailer. The business was purebred Texas Longhorn ranching. So we were behind a very large BS cow the whole way. I noted the symbology.
Good fun! I kept thinking of bread and circuses as the tyke scrambled to gather the free candy.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 30, 2019 09:17 AM (u82oZ)
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If you can't tell, I've been spend much of the week reading articles on First Things and the new Human Events. Also American Greatness.
I'm writing about this because literally no one gives a crap about my slog through Gibbon.
I'm writing about this because literally no one gives a crap about my slog through Gibbon.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:17 AM (cfSRQ)
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oh please, there's a bunch of real estate agents complaining about the cap on their commissions for rental.
Posted by: vivi at June 30, 2019 09:17 AM (11H2y)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 30, 2019 09:17 AM (u82oZ)
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I am reading "The Watchful Mind" an anonymous work probably by a 19th century monk in the Eastern Orthodox tradition. It concerns the "prayer of the heart" or noetic prayer using this prayer, "Lord Jesus Christ, son of God have mercy on me."
It's a great book and a wonderful prayer!
It's a great book and a wonderful prayer!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 30, 2019 09:18 AM (+0VWg)
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have a big pile of Iibrary books but nothing that interesting
maybe The Catalog of Shipwrecked Books which is about Columbus' son, a bibliophile, but haven't started on it yet
maybe The Catalog of Shipwrecked Books which is about Columbus' son, a bibliophile, but haven't started on it yet
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 30, 2019 09:18 AM (dm05u)
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Now, those be some damn fine lookin' pants!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 30, 2019 09:18 AM (438dO)
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Princeton boys tip cows on weekends.
I went to a literal cow college. One night we got drunk and stoned and went out to try cow tipping.
We couldn't find a cow.
Posted by: Bandersnatch,
There's never a cow around when ya need one.
I went to a literal cow college. One night we got drunk and stoned and went out to try cow tipping.
We couldn't find a cow.
Posted by: Bandersnatch,
There's never a cow around when ya need one.
Posted by: JT at June 30, 2019 09:18 AM (5kkU5)
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Adam Rex’ “Fat Vampire”, while slight, has some very funny observations. Our teenage vampire protagonist has just learned that his Civil War-era vamp mentor is gay. “Doug, for his part, didn’t think he really had much of an opinion about gay people. If anything, he was possibly a little sick of them. They were always popping up in shows and movies and in the books he read. They used to be comic relief, but at some point it was like you weren’t allowed to laugh anymore, and the gay characters were Very Serious. Their whole character would be about them being gay, and how serious and unfunny and also completely normal it was. In each new book, especially, there seemed to be one or two. Like the author wanted to prove what an open-minded, big-tent guy he was.”
In one scene a blood-engorged and very spastic Doug heroically interrupts a shopette burglary in progress. “His poncho billowed out behind him like a great white sail, a sail borne on the winds of justice. That would be a great name for him, he thought, as he narrowed in on his prey: White Justice. No, it sounded a little neo-Nazi. He might as well call himself Nordic Lightning. You can have black superheroes with “Black” at the beginning of their names, but you can’t really do that with white superheroes. “Jewish Justice” just sounds like a law firm he thought, before noticing he was about to get hit by a trolley.”
In one scene a blood-engorged and very spastic Doug heroically interrupts a shopette burglary in progress. “His poncho billowed out behind him like a great white sail, a sail borne on the winds of justice. That would be a great name for him, he thought, as he narrowed in on his prey: White Justice. No, it sounded a little neo-Nazi. He might as well call himself Nordic Lightning. You can have black superheroes with “Black” at the beginning of their names, but you can’t really do that with white superheroes. “Jewish Justice” just sounds like a law firm he thought, before noticing he was about to get hit by a trolley.”
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 09:19 AM (kQs4Y)
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Satin...I would probably be compelled to touch those pants. Hilarity would ensue.
Posted by: April at June 30, 2019 09:20 AM (OX9vb)
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I've been reading "The Lore of the Unicorn". Seems the Unicorn may have started off as a rhino or a goat and the tales got twisted from there. Anyway there were lots of different versions of Unicorns. The horsey one with sparkles and rainbows is a modern corruption.
Written 1930. It's free here: https://tinyurl.com/y38s6nyk
"There is the unicorn of Persia, said to have been kept as a pet by the Sophy in his private gardens at Samarkand. There is the unicorn of the Carpathians made known by Antony Scheneberger in a letter quoted by Conrad Gesner. There is the unicorn of India, distinct from the rhinoceros, clearly depicted on a map of the Orient published with the English translation of Linschoeten's Voyages. There is the unicorn of Poland reported by Aldrovandus, the unicorn of Scandinavia of which we learn in the Historia Naturalis of Johnston, the unicorn of Florida made known to Europe by the Spanish conquistadors, the unicorn of the Canadian border described by Olfert Dapper, and finally there is the unicorn of China."
Written 1930. It's free here: https://tinyurl.com/y38s6nyk
"There is the unicorn of Persia, said to have been kept as a pet by the Sophy in his private gardens at Samarkand. There is the unicorn of the Carpathians made known by Antony Scheneberger in a letter quoted by Conrad Gesner. There is the unicorn of India, distinct from the rhinoceros, clearly depicted on a map of the Orient published with the English translation of Linschoeten's Voyages. There is the unicorn of Poland reported by Aldrovandus, the unicorn of Scandinavia of which we learn in the Historia Naturalis of Johnston, the unicorn of Florida made known to Europe by the Spanish conquistadors, the unicorn of the Canadian border described by Olfert Dapper, and finally there is the unicorn of China."
Posted by: Joe Biteum at June 30, 2019 09:20 AM (UdKB7)
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Eris, that's hilarious
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 30, 2019 09:20 AM (dm05u)
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oops off gropey sock
Posted by: freaked at June 30, 2019 09:21 AM (UdKB7)
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To Save Us All From Ruin made me realize my own grandfather was a Colorado farm boy who signed up to fight, although he was in the Pacific, and that I didn't know much about what his life had been like. I started asking him about just the little things and got to know him better because of Muldoon's book.
Also, I didn't finish Timothy Egan's book The Worst Hard Time for a couple reasons, but a main one was that he made the area I grew up in completely foreign (although I acknowledge that the interstate system *has* changed life considerably there). Muldoon did the opposite. I knew exactly what and where he was talking about in the beginning of the book, and I appreciated that (although it did make the introduction of the "whimsy" portion a little confusing for me).
Also, I didn't finish Timothy Egan's book The Worst Hard Time for a couple reasons, but a main one was that he made the area I grew up in completely foreign (although I acknowledge that the interstate system *has* changed life considerably there). Muldoon did the opposite. I knew exactly what and where he was talking about in the beginning of the book, and I appreciated that (although it did make the introduction of the "whimsy" portion a little confusing for me).
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 30, 2019 09:21 AM (uquGJ)
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Thanks for the link to the LibertyCon book sale, OM. I've already downloaded a couple.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
I thought you'd been kidnapped !
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
I thought you'd been kidnapped !
Posted by: JT at June 30, 2019 09:23 AM (5kkU5)
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Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
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Yeah, the book I'm writing at the moment also has vampires in it. Still no title, but I imagine it will be volume one of the Vampires of Michigan series.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
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Yeah, the book I'm writing at the moment also has vampires in it. Still no title, but I imagine it will be volume one of the Vampires of Michigan series.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:24 AM (cfSRQ)
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Thanks to the Moron who recommended "A Pennant for the Kremlin" by Paul Molloy. It was enjoyable indeed.
I was able to predict some events, but nothing is wrong with that.
I was taken aback by all the references to "dirty Commies," but thst's due to the era in which it was published -- the early '60s, before college students opened their yaps and weren't told to shut up and sit down.
Still, humor is timeless.
About the Deep State: Nothing describes it better than the '80s Britcoms "Yes, Minister" and "Yes, Prime Minister." The politicians vs. the Civil Service. I love these shows, and the scripts were collected into two hardcovers, the first of which I've owned for years. The stories are told as entries in the Minister's diaries, with plenty of illustrations. Recommended.
I was able to predict some events, but nothing is wrong with that.
I was taken aback by all the references to "dirty Commies," but thst's due to the era in which it was published -- the early '60s, before college students opened their yaps and weren't told to shut up and sit down.
Still, humor is timeless.
About the Deep State: Nothing describes it better than the '80s Britcoms "Yes, Minister" and "Yes, Prime Minister." The politicians vs. the Civil Service. I love these shows, and the scripts were collected into two hardcovers, the first of which I've owned for years. The stories are told as entries in the Minister's diaries, with plenty of illustrations. Recommended.
Posted by: Weak Geek at June 30, 2019 09:25 AM (M5h3L)
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I'm writing about this because literally no one gives a crap about my slog through Gibbon.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:17 AM (cfSRQ)
"Another damn'd thick, square book! "
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:17 AM (cfSRQ)
"Another damn'd thick, square book! "
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 30, 2019 09:25 AM (dm05u)
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"He may be a blustering blowhard..."
I never thought this of Trump, for a second. The reason -- he was too accomplished as an executive. You can be a blowhard in politics and still rise to prominence. Not in the cutthroat business Trump was in. Whatever he was, he was a man of performance (check out Trump and Wollman Rink).
I never thought this of Trump, for a second. The reason -- he was too accomplished as an executive. You can be a blowhard in politics and still rise to prominence. Not in the cutthroat business Trump was in. Whatever he was, he was a man of performance (check out Trump and Wollman Rink).
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at June 30, 2019 09:26 AM (H8QX8)
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"Another damn'd thick, square book! "
I still want to know who reviewer R.W. Bell is:
"I find the shape of the book, with its saucy rectangularity, to be a refreshing departure from books that aren't rectangular. You know, like those kids' books that are shaped like animals and balloons and trains and crap like that. Its rectangular shape signals not a reactionary return to the stifled confines of traditional book shapes, but rather a lively and confident rejection of the avant-gardist frippery, dare I say outright popinjayism, that yielded such non-rectangular book shapes in the first place. Hurrah for the unabashed bow to conventionalism!"
I still want to know who reviewer R.W. Bell is:
"I find the shape of the book, with its saucy rectangularity, to be a refreshing departure from books that aren't rectangular. You know, like those kids' books that are shaped like animals and balloons and trains and crap like that. Its rectangular shape signals not a reactionary return to the stifled confines of traditional book shapes, but rather a lively and confident rejection of the avant-gardist frippery, dare I say outright popinjayism, that yielded such non-rectangular book shapes in the first place. Hurrah for the unabashed bow to conventionalism!"
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 30, 2019 09:28 AM (fuK7c)
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I read Soldier of the Mist by Gene Wolfe. The story is set in Greece in 479 B. C. Latro, the main character, is a soldier who has suffered a head wound. Not only can't he remember his past, but by noon he has forgotten the events of the day before. However, he now has the ability to see and talk with the many Gods and Goddesses, werewolves, and the other strange creatures which are all around. I liked the premise, especially after I read the author's note that although the book was a work of fiction, it is based on facts. For me, the plot moved too slowly and there was a lack of action scenes. I will not be pursuing the rest of the series.
Posted by: Zoltan at June 30, 2019 09:28 AM (0Bfo6)
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I found a good used copy of The Lance and the Shield, the story of Sitting Bull, and I also picked up Churchill Walking With Destiny. Haven't started either yet.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 30, 2019 09:29 AM (WdvDr)
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Trump for Mt. Rushmore.
Posted by: torabora at June 30, 2019 09:29 AM (Y274z)
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I never thought this of Trump, for a second. The
reason -- he was too accomplished as an executive. You can be a blowhard
in politics and still rise to prominence. Not in the cutthroat business
Trump was in. Whatever he was, he was a man of performance (check out
Trump and Wollman Rink).
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at June 30, 2019 09:26 AM (H8QX
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Trump fashioned a persona that he enjoys (very important) but also that causes his adversaries to grossly underestimate him.
Sometimes I step back and look at how much he's transformed not just the US but the global strategic/economic environment.
It's pretty amazing, but no one really talks about it.
reason -- he was too accomplished as an executive. You can be a blowhard
in politics and still rise to prominence. Not in the cutthroat business
Trump was in. Whatever he was, he was a man of performance (check out
Trump and Wollman Rink).
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at June 30, 2019 09:26 AM (H8QX
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Trump fashioned a persona that he enjoys (very important) but also that causes his adversaries to grossly underestimate him.
Sometimes I step back and look at how much he's transformed not just the US but the global strategic/economic environment.
It's pretty amazing, but no one really talks about it.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:30 AM (cfSRQ)
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It's been a magazine week at Chez JTB. Fly tyer, Muzzleloader, and Backwoodsman all arrived since last Sunday. So many pleasant hours of varied reading.
Posted by: JTB at June 30, 2019 09:30 AM (bmdz3)
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Yeah, the book I'm writing at the moment also has vampires in it. Still no title, but I imagine it will be volume one of the Vampires of Michigan series.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:24 AM (cfSRQ)
yay vampires!
don't let them be monologuing ones please - for some reason, although they are supposed to be silent mysterious night stalkers, they always seem to be monologuing.
Yeah, the book I'm writing at the moment also has vampires in it. Still no title, but I imagine it will be volume one of the Vampires of Michigan series.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:24 AM (cfSRQ)
yay vampires!
don't let them be monologuing ones please - for some reason, although they are supposed to be silent mysterious night stalkers, they always seem to be monologuing.
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 30, 2019 09:32 AM (dm05u)
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writing about this because literally no one gives a crap about my slog through Gibbon.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd
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I care, to the extent that I did the same, so that every time I disparage the book, which is as often as possible, I can say that I read it.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd
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I care, to the extent that I did the same, so that every time I disparage the book, which is as often as possible, I can say that I read it.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 30, 2019 09:32 AM (WdvDr)
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I have Fat Vampire on hold at the library. Maybe that will get me out of the reading slump, it looks like a fun read.
Posted by: April at June 30, 2019 09:32 AM (OX9vb)
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Will the biggest bestest gay pride parade feature a float that celebrates the assault on gay journalist Andy Ngo?
Posted by: kallisto at June 30, 2019 09:33 AM (d3k/b)
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 30, 2019 09:33 AM (dm05u)
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"yay vampires!
don't let them be monologuing ones please"
Throw in a Unicorn. Sparkly Vampire Unicorns are hot now.
don't let them be monologuing ones please"
Throw in a Unicorn. Sparkly Vampire Unicorns are hot now.
Posted by: freaked at June 30, 2019 09:33 AM (UdKB7)
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I have done no reading this week, unless work stuff counts, or the instructions for operating a portable generator.
Posted by: Weasel at June 30, 2019 09:34 AM (MVjcR)
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I tried starting The Dark Tower series. Made it half way through the second book and decided it was not going to be worth my time.
Posted by: Hollywood Exec at June 30, 2019 09:34 AM (J70i0)
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sparkly unicorn vampire
drinks blood through it's horn
drinks blood through it's horn
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 30, 2019 09:34 AM (dm05u)
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As part of my quest to read everything Nabokov published in conjunction with his two part biography by Brian Boyd, I read The Eye which is just over a hundred pages and could be read in one sitting by someone who reads faster than I. Although Boyd didn't write an "official" biography, which I guess means initiated by the family, Vera and Dmitri are acknowledged as being very helpful in answering questions. Still by Boyd's admission this was written at a time that he had no clue into what Vlad was doing so, with no preliminary accounts of him writing it, all of a sudden there's a review of it so I got online with the library quickly.
The story is pretty simple in outline: An emigre tutor of two worthless brats is confronted at the house by the irate husband of this whore he'd been banging, who proceeds to beat the fuck out of him throughout the house as the kids are wondering WTF. Humiliated he goes home and shoots himself in the heart. After he's dead he still goes on observing the world in his memory and particularly how he's regarded by the people he knew. In strictly translated Russia, the title was Spy which is ironically how one of the other emigres regarded him even though there's not the evil Rooski association.
Although this isn't in the canon of Nabokov masterpieces, that's probably because it's short. It certainly contains brilliant shifts of narrative perceptions and the concept of existence through memory. IOW I liked it a lot.
The story is pretty simple in outline: An emigre tutor of two worthless brats is confronted at the house by the irate husband of this whore he'd been banging, who proceeds to beat the fuck out of him throughout the house as the kids are wondering WTF. Humiliated he goes home and shoots himself in the heart. After he's dead he still goes on observing the world in his memory and particularly how he's regarded by the people he knew. In strictly translated Russia, the title was Spy which is ironically how one of the other emigres regarded him even though there's not the evil Rooski association.
Although this isn't in the canon of Nabokov masterpieces, that's probably because it's short. It certainly contains brilliant shifts of narrative perceptions and the concept of existence through memory. IOW I liked it a lot.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 30, 2019 09:35 AM (y7DUB)
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yay vampires!
don't let them be monologuing ones please - for some reason,
although they are supposed to be silent mysterious night stalkers, they
always seem to be monologuing.
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 30, 2019 09:32 AM (dm05u)
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My writing style is to tell rather than describe, so a lot of stuff comes out in conversation between the characters. I'm not a fan of passages where characters think about things a lot or where the narrator steps in and provides lots of background.
If it's worth knowing, a character will either interact with it through the senses or someone will talk about it.
This is an older project I abandoned a dozen years ago, so I'm having to re-write a lot of it because I don't like the way I was writing back then.
don't let them be monologuing ones please - for some reason,
although they are supposed to be silent mysterious night stalkers, they
always seem to be monologuing.
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 30, 2019 09:32 AM (dm05u)
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My writing style is to tell rather than describe, so a lot of stuff comes out in conversation between the characters. I'm not a fan of passages where characters think about things a lot or where the narrator steps in and provides lots of background.
If it's worth knowing, a character will either interact with it through the senses or someone will talk about it.
This is an older project I abandoned a dozen years ago, so I'm having to re-write a lot of it because I don't like the way I was writing back then.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:35 AM (cfSRQ)
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Unicorns have a thing for virgins. Just sayin.
Posted by: freaked at June 30, 2019 09:36 AM (UdKB7)
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Morning. 'rons and 'ronettes.
"He may be a blustering blowhard..."
I was cursed over my breakfast tea to see another TDS letter from one of the local cast of clowns in my morning paper. All about Trump's "racism" and "hatred" and "insults." "LBJ never called Goldwater a traitor! Reagan and O'Neill got along! Obama would never say, 'I could shoot someone and they'd still vote for me!'" (I paraphrase).
You mean the LBJ whose "Daisy" ad suggested Goldwater was a madman who'd drag us into a nuclear war? Reagan the goofball who didn't throw the sodden Mick out the door after he slimed the Gipper as "The evil in the White House?" The dog-eating crackhead who sneered, "If they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a gun?"
I'm tempted to respond, but I'm in Massachusetts. What difference would it make?
"He may be a blustering blowhard..."
I was cursed over my breakfast tea to see another TDS letter from one of the local cast of clowns in my morning paper. All about Trump's "racism" and "hatred" and "insults." "LBJ never called Goldwater a traitor! Reagan and O'Neill got along! Obama would never say, 'I could shoot someone and they'd still vote for me!'" (I paraphrase).
You mean the LBJ whose "Daisy" ad suggested Goldwater was a madman who'd drag us into a nuclear war? Reagan the goofball who didn't throw the sodden Mick out the door after he slimed the Gipper as "The evil in the White House?" The dog-eating crackhead who sneered, "If they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a gun?"
I'm tempted to respond, but I'm in Massachusetts. What difference would it make?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 30, 2019 09:36 AM (Ki5SV)
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I do recommend the Galaxy's Edge series. It's very Star Wars-esque once you get by the first book.
Posted by: Hollywood Exec at June 30, 2019 09:37 AM (J70i0)
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I tried starting The Dark Tower series. Made it half way through the
second book and decided it was not going to be worth my time.
Posted by: Hollywood Exec at June 30, 2019 09:34 AM (J70i0)
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Wise decision.
My wife is a superfan of the series and as she read through it, kept telling me how awesome it was and the more she described, the less interest I had in the thing.
I think King put himself in the books near the end.
I tried starting The Dark Tower series. Made it half way through the
second book and decided it was not going to be worth my time.
Posted by: Hollywood Exec at June 30, 2019 09:34 AM (J70i0)
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Wise decision.
My wife is a superfan of the series and as she read through it, kept telling me how awesome it was and the more she described, the less interest I had in the thing.
I think King put himself in the books near the end.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:37 AM (cfSRQ)
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I'm not so sure your slog through Gibbson isn't mentally noted by others.
Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2019 09:38 AM (BbGew)
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21: Cottage is noted to be one of the more academic eating clubs, they all have such different reps. Cottage has some other lovely rooms as well. The frats and sororities at Princeton are pretty sub rosa.
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2019 09:39 AM (U7k5w)
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I always thought The Dark Tower sucked.
Lots of people I know claim to love it...but, I could never get into it and at no point did I enjoy it.
Lots of people I know claim to love it...but, I could never get into it and at no point did I enjoy it.
Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2019 09:39 AM (rqoAH)
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In regards to Trump: President Trump seems to know how to talk to the ordinary American, obviously understands them, likes them and doesn't despise the Average American, unlike most of Washington and Hillary voters.
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 30, 2019 09:40 AM (WEBkv)
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This is an older project I abandoned a dozen years ago, so I'm having to re-write a lot of it because I don't like the way I was writing back then.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:35 AM (cfSRQ)
I know the feeling, in a way. I said I was abandoning my second Theda Bara novel because it wasn't working out, and yet, when I began packing it away, I read some of it over and realized that (to me) it was some of the best writing I've ever done.
And then I got the smallest germ of an idea to kick-start the thing, which I have been working on, but very slowly, because one of my many flaws is to act in haste and repent at leisure. So I am going over this idea slowly, to see if it will work.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:35 AM (cfSRQ)
I know the feeling, in a way. I said I was abandoning my second Theda Bara novel because it wasn't working out, and yet, when I began packing it away, I read some of it over and realized that (to me) it was some of the best writing I've ever done.
And then I got the smallest germ of an idea to kick-start the thing, which I have been working on, but very slowly, because one of my many flaws is to act in haste and repent at leisure. So I am going over this idea slowly, to see if it will work.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 30, 2019 09:40 AM (Ki5SV)
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I think King put himself in the books near the end.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:37 AM (cfSRQ)
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Did he get shot in the end?
...asking for a friend.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:37 AM (cfSRQ)
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Did he get shot in the end?
...asking for a friend.
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 30, 2019 09:41 AM (WEBkv)
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>> All about Trump's "racism" and "hatred"
You would think a guy who has lived his entire life on the pages of the NY Newspapers would have a long track history of Racism and Hatred to cite?
He must just be lazy.
You would think a guy who has lived his entire life on the pages of the NY Newspapers would have a long track history of Racism and Hatred to cite?
He must just be lazy.
Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2019 09:41 AM (rqoAH)
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writing about this because literally no one gives a crap about my slog through Gibbon.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd
Demonstrably not true; I love sharing the pain.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd
Demonstrably not true; I love sharing the pain.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 30, 2019 09:41 AM (y7DUB)
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36: They want the children. Back in the closet and nail the doors shut, if they can't leave the kids alone.
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2019 09:41 AM (U7k5w)
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I'm finishing up The Blank Slate.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 30, 2019 09:42 AM (SgjGX)
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I did learn a new word from the Unicorn book. "Mariolaters"
No, it doesn't have anything to do with Mario Brothers. I don't know why I've never heard the term before. Maybe it's not used so much anymore?
I did learn a new word from the Unicorn book. "Mariolaters"
No, it doesn't have anything to do with Mario Brothers. I don't know why I've never heard the term before. Maybe it's not used so much anymore?
Posted by: freaked at June 30, 2019 09:42 AM (UdKB7)
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86: There was nothing on all of his racism, which doesn't exist, until he ran for President. Now the leftist bastards are trying to brand half the nation.
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2019 09:43 AM (U7k5w)
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don't let them be monologuing ones please - for some reason, although they are supposed to be silent mysterious night stalkers, they always seem to be monologuing.
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 30, 2019 09:32 AM (dm05u)
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No, they have to monologue, otherwise, how are you going to be able to catch your breath and then kill them?
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 30, 2019 09:32 AM (dm05u)
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No, they have to monologue, otherwise, how are you going to be able to catch your breath and then kill them?
Posted by: Mr. Incredible at June 30, 2019 09:43 AM (WEBkv)
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82
I always thought The Dark Tower sucked.
Lots of people I know claim to love it...but, I could never get into it and at no point did I enjoy it.
Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2019 09:39 AM (rqoAH)
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I simply don't like the way King writes. It's that simple. I find his prose ugly.
Style counts for a lot. One reason I can stay with Gibbon is that while he's a pompous, bigoted, ignorant jackass, he can turn a phrase now and then. His description of the rise of early Islam is quite enjoyable as his dry wit returns.
King just irritated me. Couldn't get into him. The only book of his that I've read was the one he did on writing (called, I think "On Writing") and I found his style tips useless but his autobiography was fascinating, and told me a lot more than I think he intended.
Basically, he was a frustrated alcoholic English teacher with an unhappy childhood who wrote about bad things happening to screwed up people.
Happily for him, there's a mass market for that sort of thing.
I always thought The Dark Tower sucked.
Lots of people I know claim to love it...but, I could never get into it and at no point did I enjoy it.
Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2019 09:39 AM (rqoAH)
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I simply don't like the way King writes. It's that simple. I find his prose ugly.
Style counts for a lot. One reason I can stay with Gibbon is that while he's a pompous, bigoted, ignorant jackass, he can turn a phrase now and then. His description of the rise of early Islam is quite enjoyable as his dry wit returns.
King just irritated me. Couldn't get into him. The only book of his that I've read was the one he did on writing (called, I think "On Writing") and I found his style tips useless but his autobiography was fascinating, and told me a lot more than I think he intended.
Basically, he was a frustrated alcoholic English teacher with an unhappy childhood who wrote about bad things happening to screwed up people.
Happily for him, there's a mass market for that sort of thing.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:44 AM (cfSRQ)
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I hold a twenty year old grudge against Stephen King.
He started writing an online novel and the gag was you'd pay $1 per chapter and he'd put out a chapter a month.
I was all very idealistic about the internet and how we were going to figure out a way for it to make money and sure I'll throw King a buck every month even though I'm not really a fan.
And then he got about four chapters in and just fucked off. I don't know if he got bored or it didn't make money, but fuck him. I'm basically on the truck's side.
He started writing an online novel and the gag was you'd pay $1 per chapter and he'd put out a chapter a month.
I was all very idealistic about the internet and how we were going to figure out a way for it to make money and sure I'll throw King a buck every month even though I'm not really a fan.
And then he got about four chapters in and just fucked off. I don't know if he got bored or it didn't make money, but fuck him. I'm basically on the truck's side.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 30, 2019 09:45 AM (fuK7c)
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Did he get shot in the end?
...asking for a friend.
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 30, 2019 09:41 AM (WEBkv)
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No, run over by a van or something.
Apparently it was an attempt by the alternate universe to stop him from writing.
No, I'm not making that up.
...asking for a friend.
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 30, 2019 09:41 AM (WEBkv)
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No, run over by a van or something.
Apparently it was an attempt by the alternate universe to stop him from writing.
No, I'm not making that up.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:45 AM (cfSRQ)
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As for books, I finished Iris Murdoch's The Sea, the Sea, which was bittersweet, funny, and at times bizarre, like most of her work.
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2019 09:46 AM (U7k5w)
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And now I’m on Poul (“Pole”
Anderson’s 1967 short novel “World Without Stars” (I got the edition with the Michael Whelan cover, natch). I have always liked his combination of rambling folksiness and big ideas. Hugh Valland, a spacer with a career spanning centuries, is longing to return to Earth to see his lady love. He also knows he is very out of touch with Terran culture now, which is basically a living museum with a remnant population.
In this story, he and the crew have crash landed on a planet beyond the outskirts of the galaxy, with a sky devoid of stars and the galaxy but a distant glittering object to be worshipped by the primitive inhabitants. They find Hugh incomprehensible yet fascinating. He endears himself to them with his gift for gab and his synth-harp, and learns that there is a dominant species that exploits all the others – and now there’s a new species with strange technology.
Hugh is determined to escape and liberate his new friends in the process. I liked Valland’s never-say-die, death-before-slavery philosophy. Older SF (and Poul himself knew he was old-fashioned) was full of this individualism, and I get why Human Wave authors want to revive it.
A lot of his novels explore the ways extreme longevity and space travel have had on culture. The burden of hundreds of years of memories and trivia necessitates editing memories, lest one go batty
Here’s an interview from 1975 (!) in which Anderson comments on high art versus commerce, the death of the short story, and trends that are played out (depressing, anti-human dystopias are, alas, evergreen, Poul).
https://www.tangentonline.com/interviews-columnsmenu-166/3339-classic-poul-anderson-interview
And now I’m on Poul (“Pole”
Anderson’s 1967 short novel “World Without Stars” (I got the edition with the Michael Whelan cover, natch). I have always liked his combination of rambling folksiness and big ideas. Hugh Valland, a spacer with a career spanning centuries, is longing to return to Earth to see his lady love. He also knows he is very out of touch with Terran culture now, which is basically a living museum with a remnant population.
In this story, he and the crew have crash landed on a planet beyond the outskirts of the galaxy, with a sky devoid of stars and the galaxy but a distant glittering object to be worshipped by the primitive inhabitants. They find Hugh incomprehensible yet fascinating. He endears himself to them with his gift for gab and his synth-harp, and learns that there is a dominant species that exploits all the others – and now there’s a new species with strange technology.
Hugh is determined to escape and liberate his new friends in the process. I liked Valland’s never-say-die, death-before-slavery philosophy. Older SF (and Poul himself knew he was old-fashioned) was full of this individualism, and I get why Human Wave authors want to revive it.
A lot of his novels explore the ways extreme longevity and space travel have had on culture. The burden of hundreds of years of memories and trivia necessitates editing memories, lest one go batty
Here’s an interview from 1975 (!) in which Anderson comments on high art versus commerce, the death of the short story, and trends that are played out (depressing, anti-human dystopias are, alas, evergreen, Poul).
https://www.tangentonline.com/interviews-columnsmenu-166/3339-classic-poul-anderson-interview
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 09:46 AM (kQs4Y)
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Today is gonna be a great day for a book and a beer.
Two beers. I'm a slow reader.
Two beers. I'm a slow reader.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 30, 2019 09:46 AM (aZNua)
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Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 30, 2019 09:40 AM (Ki5SV)
I'm so happy for you that you've been able to see the quality in your writing and that you now have a chance to move forward in it.
I'm so happy for you that you've been able to see the quality in your writing and that you now have a chance to move forward in it.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 30, 2019 09:47 AM (uquGJ)
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No, run over by a van or something.
Apparently it was an attempt by the alternate universe to stop him from writing.
No, I'm not making that up.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:45 AM (cfSRQ)
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Crud, how am I supposed to loathe someone who has enough self-awareness to understand there are people who really cannot stand him?
Apparently it was an attempt by the alternate universe to stop him from writing.
No, I'm not making that up.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:45 AM (cfSRQ)
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Crud, how am I supposed to loathe someone who has enough self-awareness to understand there are people who really cannot stand him?
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 30, 2019 09:48 AM (WEBkv)
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I'm reading a second Mark Dawson novel with John Milton as the central character.
He's tough, but no Jack Reacher.
He's tough, but no Jack Reacher.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at June 30, 2019 09:48 AM (4ZE6o)
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Cottage is noted to be one of the more academic eating clubs,
That reminds me...I meant to get Cottage Cheese !
Dang !
That reminds me...I meant to get Cottage Cheese !
Dang !
Posted by: JT at June 30, 2019 09:49 AM (5kkU5)
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https://www.tangentonline.com/interviews-columnsmenu-166/3339-classic-poul-anderson-interview
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 09:46 AM (kQs4Y)
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Interesting side note: Heinlein touched on the editing memories theme in: "Time Enough for Love."
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 09:46 AM (kQs4Y)
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Interesting side note: Heinlein touched on the editing memories theme in: "Time Enough for Love."
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 30, 2019 09:50 AM (WEBkv)
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I did learn a new word from the Unicorn book. "Mariolaters"
I've come across "Mariolatry," usually in the context of Protestant sneering about the Catholic "cult" of the Virgin.
I've come across "Mariolatry," usually in the context of Protestant sneering about the Catholic "cult" of the Virgin.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 30, 2019 09:50 AM (Ki5SV)
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Most historians consider The Terror, or murder-fest, as having occurred from June 1793-July 1794. Loomis focuses on three major characters: Charlotte Corday who killed the human monster Jean-Paul Marat, Georges Danton and Maximilien Robespierre. Just like the ones they sent to the guillotine both Danton and Robespierre were also beheaded by the National Razor of France.
Posted by: Jake Holenhead at June 30, 2019 09:14 AM (vJVIn)
All progressive revolutions eventually start eating themselves. We're starting to see that now.
Posted by: Jake Holenhead at June 30, 2019 09:14 AM (vJVIn)
All progressive revolutions eventually start eating themselves. We're starting to see that now.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at June 30, 2019 09:50 AM (JVrQi)
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I think King put himself in the books near the end.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:37 AM (cfSRQ)
From what I heard he does and he has a ton of other characters from his other books. The first book was interesting. However, in the second book it became obvious the story was going to drag on a King introduced characters and the world was not going to have any rules. It was just going to be whatever he threw against the wall. Even fantasy worlds need rules.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:37 AM (cfSRQ)
From what I heard he does and he has a ton of other characters from his other books. The first book was interesting. However, in the second book it became obvious the story was going to drag on a King introduced characters and the world was not going to have any rules. It was just going to be whatever he threw against the wall. Even fantasy worlds need rules.
Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at June 30, 2019 09:50 AM (J70i0)
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101 I'm reading a second Mark Dawson novel with John Milton as the central character.
He's tough, but no Jack Reacher.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at June 30, 2019 09:48 AM (4ZE6o)
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Automatic points in his favor.
He's tough, but no Jack Reacher.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at June 30, 2019 09:48 AM (4ZE6o)
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Automatic points in his favor.
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 30, 2019 09:50 AM (WEBkv)
108
I am shocked, SHOCKED to find literacy and erudition going on here!
Posted by: Insomniac at June 30, 2019 09:50 AM (NWiLs)
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No, they have to monologue, otherwise, how are you going to be able to catch your breath and then kill them?
Posted by: Mr. Incredible at June 30, 2019 09:43 AM (WEBkv)
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These are not the usual "angst-y" vampires. Closer to the concept in "Underworld" where it's a rare mutation.
Not sure I'm adding anything to the genre, but it's fun to speculate on how much local history was really shadow vendettas.
All the deep thinking stuff's been written, so I'm going to have some fun and make Michigan the center of the global vampiric struggle.
Because I can.
Posted by: Mr. Incredible at June 30, 2019 09:43 AM (WEBkv)
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These are not the usual "angst-y" vampires. Closer to the concept in "Underworld" where it's a rare mutation.
Not sure I'm adding anything to the genre, but it's fun to speculate on how much local history was really shadow vendettas.
All the deep thinking stuff's been written, so I'm going to have some fun and make Michigan the center of the global vampiric struggle.
Because I can.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:50 AM (cfSRQ)
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ugh I just remembered a fantasy I read years ago, maybe as a teen I think it was The Unlikely Ones by Mary Brown
(just looked it up and it was published 1987)
these days it would be YA
anyway cool premise - band of cursed misfits seek cures to their problems - and maybe save the land - the band including a kitten, a toad, a knight, main character a gil, and most disturbing - a noble and pure gay unicorn whose prince is under a sleeping spell
years before the sjw nonsense, it was already being pushed by the SFF crowd onto kids
(just looked it up and it was published 1987)
these days it would be YA
anyway cool premise - band of cursed misfits seek cures to their problems - and maybe save the land - the band including a kitten, a toad, a knight, main character a gil, and most disturbing - a noble and pure gay unicorn whose prince is under a sleeping spell
years before the sjw nonsense, it was already being pushed by the SFF crowd onto kids
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 30, 2019 09:51 AM (dm05u)
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37 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Who Hate Trump and Who Are Extremely Butthurt Because Hillary Lost Assess a President Without Ever Seeing, Speaking With, or Examining Him.
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Drive through psychoanalysis.
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Drive through psychoanalysis.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 30, 2019 09:51 AM (+y/Ru)
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Oh, I purchased moron author William Alan Webb's "Standing Before Hell's Gate," book 4 in the Last Brigade series. I've enjoyed the previous three very much, so something else I may be able to read this week without falling asleep.
Posted by: April at June 30, 2019 09:52 AM (OX9vb)
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Yeah, the book I'm writing at the moment also has vampires in it. Still no title, but I imagine it will be volume one of the Vampires of Michigan series.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:24 AM (cfSRQ)
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Call it "The Bloodsuckers of Bad Axe" and it will fly off the shelves.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:24 AM (cfSRQ)
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Call it "The Bloodsuckers of Bad Axe" and it will fly off the shelves.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 09:52 AM (kQs4Y)
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HC, Thanks for the link to the antique tool catalogs. I don't dare look at them until until I have plenty of time to get lost. Despite my mechanical limitations (I'm being kind to myself), I find older tools, well designed, excellently made, and carefully maintained, to be fascinating.
Posted by: JTB at June 30, 2019 09:52 AM (bmdz3)
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Mixed reading this week. Finished Max Gladstone's _Four Roads Cross_, the sequel to his _Three Parts Dead_. You really have to read 3PD first or you won't know what the heck is going on in 4RC.
It's good -- a fantasy novel in a very original fantasy setting. Kind of like the modern world in a lot of ways.
I've kind of got a mental scale for "fantasticness" which is based on how much reference the fantasy world makes to our own world. Obviously "wainscot fantasies" like Harry Potter or Harry Desden are 0 or 1, because they are in our world or one much like it. Over at the 10 end are settings like Vance's Dying Earth or Tolkein's Middle-Earth, which are completely self-consistent and have no reference to our world at all, not even as in-jokes or winks at the reader.
Note that this isn't a gauge of quality. The Narnia books are about 5, and Lieber's Lankhmar stories are around 8, but I'd be hard-pressed to say which of them I like better.
Gladstone's somewhere around a 4. His books are a distinct fantasy world, but part of the fun is seeing the funhouse version of our own society.
It's good -- a fantasy novel in a very original fantasy setting. Kind of like the modern world in a lot of ways.
I've kind of got a mental scale for "fantasticness" which is based on how much reference the fantasy world makes to our own world. Obviously "wainscot fantasies" like Harry Potter or Harry Desden are 0 or 1, because they are in our world or one much like it. Over at the 10 end are settings like Vance's Dying Earth or Tolkein's Middle-Earth, which are completely self-consistent and have no reference to our world at all, not even as in-jokes or winks at the reader.
Note that this isn't a gauge of quality. The Narnia books are about 5, and Lieber's Lankhmar stories are around 8, but I'd be hard-pressed to say which of them I like better.
Gladstone's somewhere around a 4. His books are a distinct fantasy world, but part of the fun is seeing the funhouse version of our own society.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 30, 2019 09:52 AM (OHblf)
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From what I heard he does and he has a ton of
other characters from his other books. The first book was interesting.
However, in the second book it became obvious the story was going to
drag on a King introduced characters and the world was not going to have
any rules. It was just going to be whatever he threw against the wall.
Even fantasy worlds need rules.
Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at June 30, 2019 09:50 AM (J70i0)
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He started out wanting to write a Western epic but with fantastic Tolkien-inspired elements in it.
He ended up writing a love-letter to himself.
From what I heard he does and he has a ton of
other characters from his other books. The first book was interesting.
However, in the second book it became obvious the story was going to
drag on a King introduced characters and the world was not going to have
any rules. It was just going to be whatever he threw against the wall.
Even fantasy worlds need rules.
Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at June 30, 2019 09:50 AM (J70i0)
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He started out wanting to write a Western epic but with fantastic Tolkien-inspired elements in it.
He ended up writing a love-letter to himself.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:53 AM (cfSRQ)
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All progressive revolutions eventually start eating themselves. We're starting to see that now.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at June 30, 2019 09:50 AM (JVrQi)
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Yeah, but, progressive are in open war against conservatives, so, not sure if they'll eat themselves before things really get sporty.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at June 30, 2019 09:50 AM (JVrQi)
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Yeah, but, progressive are in open war against conservatives, so, not sure if they'll eat themselves before things really get sporty.
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 30, 2019 09:53 AM (WEBkv)
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Yeah, the book I'm writing at the moment also has vampires in it. Still no title, but I imagine it will be volume one of the Vampires of Michigan series.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:24 AM (cfSRQ)
Michigan vampires.
I hate Michigan vampires.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:24 AM (cfSRQ)
Michigan vampires.
I hate Michigan vampires.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at June 30, 2019 09:53 AM (JVrQi)
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111: Diagnosing someone without a real assessment used to be truly taboo, but they waived the rules to indulge their own psychosis. It's embarrassing.
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2019 09:53 AM (U7k5w)
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Oh, I loved The Unlikely Ones. Charming read.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 09:54 AM (kQs4Y)
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The love that dare not speak its name is now the love that won't shut the hell up.
Posted by: vivi
That's pretty funny !
Posted by: vivi
That's pretty funny !
Posted by: JT at June 30, 2019 09:54 AM (5kkU5)
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120 Oh, I loved The Unlikely Ones. Charming read.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 09:54 AM (kQs4Y)
yes it was
but thinking about it in retrospect - soo lefty
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 09:54 AM (kQs4Y)
yes it was
but thinking about it in retrospect - soo lefty
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 30, 2019 09:55 AM (dm05u)
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> Activism? About what? They have marriage, they have anti-discrimination
laws, they can adopt, they have drag library sessions for children,
they can compel people to make cakes. What's left to be activist about?
Well, going from this week's debatacles, free abortions for trannies is the current hot issue.
I haven't started reading anything new lately, but I've been doing yet another reread of Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey-Maturin series. It's one of the rare series that rewards multiple rereads, IMO.
laws, they can adopt, they have drag library sessions for children,
they can compel people to make cakes. What's left to be activist about?
Well, going from this week's debatacles, free abortions for trannies is the current hot issue.
I haven't started reading anything new lately, but I've been doing yet another reread of Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey-Maturin series. It's one of the rare series that rewards multiple rereads, IMO.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 09:55 AM (JUUk1)
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108 I am shocked, SHOCKED to find literacy and erudition going on here!
Posted by: Insomniac at June 30, 2019 09:50 AM (NWiLs)
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Hey, take your big words and fancy nomenclature elsewhere, bub!
Posted by: Insomniac at June 30, 2019 09:50 AM (NWiLs)
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Hey, take your big words and fancy nomenclature elsewhere, bub!
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 30, 2019 09:55 AM (WEBkv)
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I'm so happy for you that you've been able to see the quality in your writing and that you now have a chance to move forward in it.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 30, 2019 09:47 AM (uquGJ)
Thank you. Once I figure out what I'm doing, I'm going to ask TheJamesMadison and Anna Puma (both of whom have seen an early draft) if they think it will work.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 30, 2019 09:47 AM (uquGJ)
Thank you. Once I figure out what I'm doing, I'm going to ask TheJamesMadison and Anna Puma (both of whom have seen an early draft) if they think it will work.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 30, 2019 09:56 AM (Ki5SV)
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Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 30, 2019 09:51 AM (dm05u)
I think I read that one as an adult but about 20 years ago. It has sort of stayed with me, which I don't necessarily like, if it's the one I'm thinking of.
I think I read that one as an adult but about 20 years ago. It has sort of stayed with me, which I don't necessarily like, if it's the one I'm thinking of.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 30, 2019 09:56 AM (uquGJ)
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Call it "The Bloodsuckers of Bad Axe" and it will fly off the shelves.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 09:52 AM (kQs4Y)
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Much of the current volume is centered around Marquette, actually. I'm planning on visiting it again this summer to nail down some of the scenes and put them in actual places.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 09:52 AM (kQs4Y)
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Much of the current volume is centered around Marquette, actually. I'm planning on visiting it again this summer to nail down some of the scenes and put them in actual places.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:56 AM (cfSRQ)
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I am shocked, SHOCKED to find literacy and erudition going on here!
Posted by: Insomniac at June 30, 2019 09:50 AM (NWiLs)
**waves**
Good morning! How are you?
Posted by: Insomniac at June 30, 2019 09:50 AM (NWiLs)
**waves**
Good morning! How are you?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 30, 2019 09:56 AM (Ki5SV)
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Anyone read any of Terry Goodkind's other series the Nicci Chronicles or the Children of D'Hara? Just wondering if it's worth the price. I did really enjoy the Sword of Truth series.
Posted by: lin-duh at June 30, 2019 09:57 AM (UUBmN)
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> All progressive revolutions eventually start eating themselves. We're starting to see that now.
Yes. Biden got a preview of his upcoming Robespierre moment at the debate this week.
Yes. Biden got a preview of his upcoming Robespierre moment at the debate this week.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 09:57 AM (JUUk1)
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I did learn a new word from the Unicorn book. "Mariolaters"
No, it doesn't have anything to do with Mario Brothers. I don't know why I've never heard the term before. Maybe it's not used so much anymore?
Posted by: freaked at June 30, 2019 09:42 AM (UdKB7
Not much outside but f Jack Chick and similar screeds.
I did learn a new word from the Unicorn book. "Mariolaters"
No, it doesn't have anything to do with Mario Brothers. I don't know why I've never heard the term before. Maybe it's not used so much anymore?
Posted by: freaked at June 30, 2019 09:42 AM (UdKB7
Not much outside but f Jack Chick and similar screeds.
Posted by: Fox2! at June 30, 2019 09:58 AM (aLLD1)
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22 Reading a trilogy of books by Enemies Foreign And Domestic Matthew Bracken.
Story starts in 2011 and new Dem Pres cannot get movement of gun control. So he sets up a rogue ATF force to stag killings and get Assault Weapons banned. Proceeds to blame Militia groups and Gun stores and gun owners.
I am 75% of the way through book 1. I have never been so pissed, scared, and saddened by a book. I am going to finish book 1 but cannot decide what to do with book 2 and 3.
regards
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2019 09:09 AM (JFO2v)
Thumbs up on Bracken. Keep going with the series; it's well-written and all too plausible. After that, read his Red Cliffs of Zerhoun. His writing gets more polished over time and he is a realist about where we are headed as a disintegrating nation.
Story starts in 2011 and new Dem Pres cannot get movement of gun control. So he sets up a rogue ATF force to stag killings and get Assault Weapons banned. Proceeds to blame Militia groups and Gun stores and gun owners.
I am 75% of the way through book 1. I have never been so pissed, scared, and saddened by a book. I am going to finish book 1 but cannot decide what to do with book 2 and 3.
regards
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2019 09:09 AM (JFO2v)
Thumbs up on Bracken. Keep going with the series; it's well-written and all too plausible. After that, read his Red Cliffs of Zerhoun. His writing gets more polished over time and he is a realist about where we are headed as a disintegrating nation.
Posted by: RI Red at June 30, 2019 09:58 AM (pP8cY)
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All the deep thinking stuff's been written, so I'm going to have some fun and make Michigan the center of the global vampiric struggle.
Because I can.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:50 AM (cfSRQ)
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Considering Michigan has roughly two days of summer, probably not far from reality. Darkness and vampires sort of go together.
Because I can.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:50 AM (cfSRQ)
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Considering Michigan has roughly two days of summer, probably not far from reality. Darkness and vampires sort of go together.
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 30, 2019 09:59 AM (WEBkv)
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Mariolaters of Marquette
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 30, 2019 09:59 AM (dm05u)
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61 ... "I also picked up Churchill Walking With Destiny."
I think you will enjoy it. Besides the fascinating subject, the writing is a delight.
I think you will enjoy it. Besides the fascinating subject, the writing is a delight.
Posted by: JTB at June 30, 2019 10:00 AM (bmdz3)
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Good morning! How are you?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 30, 2019 09:56 AM (Ki5SV)
Hey! I'm pretty good, neuroses notwithstanding. How about you?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 30, 2019 09:56 AM (Ki5SV)
Hey! I'm pretty good, neuroses notwithstanding. How about you?
Posted by: Insomniac at June 30, 2019 10:00 AM (NWiLs)
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*coughs. continues*
So another thing that's interesting about the NC Wyeth biography I'm reading is how it ties into the Teddy Roosevelt bio I just finished.
Same astonishment that everything can be pieced together from letters that everyone saved. We're a generation on now and it turns out that the Wyeths though that TR was a perfect example of how to be, and then when NC grows enough as an artist TR becomes a fan of his.
I am loving this more and more as I get older and learn to weave the patterns of history together instead of seeing them as isolated incidents.
So another thing that's interesting about the NC Wyeth biography I'm reading is how it ties into the Teddy Roosevelt bio I just finished.
Same astonishment that everything can be pieced together from letters that everyone saved. We're a generation on now and it turns out that the Wyeths though that TR was a perfect example of how to be, and then when NC grows enough as an artist TR becomes a fan of his.
I am loving this more and more as I get older and learn to weave the patterns of history together instead of seeing them as isolated incidents.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 30, 2019 10:01 AM (fuK7c)
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Considering Michigan has roughly two days of summer, probably not far from reality. Darkness and vampires sort of go together.
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 30, 2019 09:59 AM (WEBkv)
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And overcast. Boy is it overcast. We go weeks without full sunlight sometimes. There was a milestone I think a year ago where we went a full month without a sunny day.
These vampires don't glitter, they burn. So yes, Michigan seems like a good base of operations.
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 30, 2019 09:59 AM (WEBkv)
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And overcast. Boy is it overcast. We go weeks without full sunlight sometimes. There was a milestone I think a year ago where we went a full month without a sunny day.
These vampires don't glitter, they burn. So yes, Michigan seems like a good base of operations.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 10:02 AM (cfSRQ)
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Much of the current volume is centered around Marquette, actually. I'm planning on visiting it again this summer to nail down some of the scenes and put them in actual places.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:56 AM (cfSRQ)
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Do they get into a fight with the werewolves of Michigan Tech? (Go Huskies!)
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 09:56 AM (cfSRQ)
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Do they get into a fight with the werewolves of Michigan Tech? (Go Huskies!)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 10:03 AM (kQs4Y)
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134 Mariolaters of Marquette
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 30, 2019 09:59 AM (dm05u)
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I saw "Mariolaters" and thought "marinate" and my mind immediately went to vampires having a housewarming party wherein they have someone slowly roasting on a spit while marinating them.
Yeah, yeah I know vampires aren't cannibals, but, hey, who knows what kinds of ghouls and fiends might be attending a vampire housewarming party?
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 30, 2019 09:59 AM (dm05u)
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I saw "Mariolaters" and thought "marinate" and my mind immediately went to vampires having a housewarming party wherein they have someone slowly roasting on a spit while marinating them.
Yeah, yeah I know vampires aren't cannibals, but, hey, who knows what kinds of ghouls and fiends might be attending a vampire housewarming party?
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 30, 2019 10:03 AM (WEBkv)
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I appreciate dark writing, fiction better than NF. The Jack Aubry series is really well done, but going old school, Alistair MacLean has one called HMS Ulysses that is wonderful. I read all of MacLean's books as a 14 yo in like 2 months.
The Bill Granger November Man series is for serious spy fiction fans.
Bitter? Check
Old? Check
Unappreciated? Check
Abused but carry on anyway because that's just who you are?
I hate thinking what this indicates about me, but whatev. Can't change now.
The Bill Granger November Man series is for serious spy fiction fans.
Bitter? Check
Old? Check
Unappreciated? Check
Abused but carry on anyway because that's just who you are?
I hate thinking what this indicates about me, but whatev. Can't change now.
Posted by: Ass Chum at June 30, 2019 10:03 AM (Jj+59)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 10:04 AM (kQs4Y)
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'sup, fellow morons? Long time no see. Hanging with Hans at LibertyCon this weekend. If you pick up 'Fade' from the 99 cent sale, or if you've read it already, here's a head's up that the third book in the series, "Come, Seeling Night" came out Friday. If I turned things up to 11 in the second book, this one goes at least to 13.
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at June 30, 2019 10:05 AM (bIses)
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Seems like Detroit would be a good setting for a vampire novel. All those empty houses . . . what's in the basements?
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 30, 2019 10:05 AM (OHblf)
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For whatever reason, because it's not like my plate isn't otherwise overly full, I picked up Memories of Things Past at the spot I'd left off months, maybe years, ago during a reread midway through Within a Budding Grove. I was surprised with just how easy it was to slide right back into it after a long hiatus. First off, for anyone who cares about this, the translated prose is absolutely gorgeous and not difficult. Second it's a pretty good social commentary as little Marcel is graciously invited for a carriage ride in the countryside outside Balbec, a coastal town on the channel, by Madame de Villeparisis who is an old money friend of his grandmother. As they're chatting on the trip Marcel asks her about artists he likes, or has been led to believe by current accounts he should like, and invariably she finds them inferior to her faves which I think were more traditional and stodgy. Since the people she badmouths includes Balzac it's pretty sure that she disliked them for not being properly deferential which was felt to be proper to people who support them. Also old money in France means *really* old, as in survived the insanity of the Revolution and knows how bad things can get.
So I think I'll keep reading...
So I think I'll keep reading...
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 30, 2019 10:06 AM (y7DUB)
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I know what's in the basements of Cleveland, I imagine Deetriot is the same.
Posted by: Ass Chum at June 30, 2019 10:06 AM (Jj+59)
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This HQ is a seething hive of Michiganists. How is it that there are so many of you? It seems disproportionate.
I understand why we have a lot of Texians, but how come all of the thumb people decided to congregate here?
I understand why we have a lot of Texians, but how come all of the thumb people decided to congregate here?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 30, 2019 10:06 AM (fuK7c)
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Reading a trilogy of books by Enemies Foreign And Domestic Matthew Bracken.
Story starts in 2011 and new Dem Pres cannot get movement of gun control. So he sets up a rogue ATF force to stag killings and get Assault Weapons banned. Proceeds to blame Militia groups and Gun stores and gun owners.
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2019 09:09 AM (JFO2v)
Ripped from headlines?
Story starts in 2011 and new Dem Pres cannot get movement of gun control. So he sets up a rogue ATF force to stag killings and get Assault Weapons banned. Proceeds to blame Militia groups and Gun stores and gun owners.
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2019 09:09 AM (JFO2v)
Ripped from headlines?
Posted by: BignJames at June 30, 2019 10:07 AM (ykq7q)
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142 Jeebus, people, Michigan is not icebound year round.
Well, maybe the U.P.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 10:04 AM (kQs4Y)
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Having lived in MN, I know there are only two seasons in that section of the country: Winter and "Under Construction."
Well, maybe the U.P.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 10:04 AM (kQs4Y)
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Having lived in MN, I know there are only two seasons in that section of the country: Winter and "Under Construction."
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 30, 2019 10:07 AM (WEBkv)
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This HQ is a seething hive of Michiganists. How is it that there are so many of you? It seems disproportionate.
I understand why we have a lot of Texians, but how come all of the thumb people decided to congregate here?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 30, 2019 10:06 AM (fuK7c)
I can only think of one Moronette who's from the Thumb. I'm from here *points at hand*
I understand why we have a lot of Texians, but how come all of the thumb people decided to congregate here?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 30, 2019 10:06 AM (fuK7c)
I can only think of one Moronette who's from the Thumb. I'm from here *points at hand*
Posted by: hogmartin at June 30, 2019 10:11 AM (t+qrx)
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Also, thumbs up on Muldoon's WWII novel. Based on his father's diaries with a slight twist. You, know, Muldoon. No, it's not written in limerick.
Quite enjoyable and "you were there" history interwoven.
Quite enjoyable and "you were there" history interwoven.
Posted by: RI Red at June 30, 2019 10:13 AM (pP8cY)
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Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at June 30, 2019 10:05 AM (bIses)
I don't remember, is Fade the first or second in the series (and what is the title of the other please)?
I don't remember, is Fade the first or second in the series (and what is the title of the other please)?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 30, 2019 10:13 AM (uquGJ)
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Thumbs up on Bracken. Keep going with the series; it's well-written and all too plausible. After that, read his Red Cliffs of Zerhoun. His writing gets more polished over time and he is a realist about where we are headed as a disintegrating nation.
Posted by: RI Red at June 30, 2019 09:58 AM (pP8cY)
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Short story by Bracken: What I Saw at the Coup
https://tinyurl.com/mzohe6b
Posted by: RI Red at June 30, 2019 09:58 AM (pP8cY)
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Short story by Bracken: What I Saw at the Coup
https://tinyurl.com/mzohe6b
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 30, 2019 10:13 AM (WEBkv)
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And I'm from here *points to prime real estate on hand*
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 10:13 AM (kQs4Y)
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111 37 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Who Hate Trump and Who Are Extremely Butthurt Because Hillary Lost Assess a President Without Ever Seeing, Speaking With, or Examining Him.
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Drive through psychoanalysis.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 30, 2019 09:51 AM (+y/Ru)
Drive-by psychoanalysis.
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Drive through psychoanalysis.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 30, 2019 09:51 AM (+y/Ru)
Drive-by psychoanalysis.
Posted by: rickl at June 30, 2019 10:13 AM (sdi6R)
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To Save Us All From Ruin made me realize my own grandfather was a Colorado farm boy who signed up to fight, although he was in the Pacific, and that I didn't know much about what his life had been like.
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As my sister and I were clearing out our mother's house this week, we came across a small, embroidered piece of cloth the size of a handkerchief reading, in French, Souvenir of France 1918. I'm pretty sure my paternal grandfather didn't fight in WWI because my father told me about all veterans in the family back to the Civil War but my mother never cared about that stuff. Maybe her father fought.
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As my sister and I were clearing out our mother's house this week, we came across a small, embroidered piece of cloth the size of a handkerchief reading, in French, Souvenir of France 1918. I'm pretty sure my paternal grandfather didn't fight in WWI because my father told me about all veterans in the family back to the Civil War but my mother never cared about that stuff. Maybe her father fought.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 30, 2019 10:14 AM (+y/Ru)
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154 And I'm from here *points to prime real estate on hand*
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 10:13 AM (kQs4Y)
Rosy Palm, a deed-restricted community
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 10:13 AM (kQs4Y)
Rosy Palm, a deed-restricted community
Posted by: Insomniac at June 30, 2019 10:15 AM (NWiLs)
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All about Trump's "racism" and "hatred"
You would think a guy who has lived his entire life on the pages of the NY Newspapers would have a long track history of Racism and Hatred to cite?
He must just be lazy.
Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2019 09:41 AM (rqoAH)
No, not at all. He was too busy cruising the Bergdorf's lady's big and tall fitting rooms making the rape.
Oh yeah! Oh yeah!........
You would think a guy who has lived his entire life on the pages of the NY Newspapers would have a long track history of Racism and Hatred to cite?
He must just be lazy.
Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2019 09:41 AM (rqoAH)
No, not at all. He was too busy cruising the Bergdorf's lady's big and tall fitting rooms making the rape.
Oh yeah! Oh yeah!........
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 30, 2019 10:15 AM (Z+IKu)
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Thanks so much for sharing the LibertyCon $0.99 sale. It's a great way to check out a host of conservative-friendly authors a.c.support the creators. Much appreciated.
Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at June 30, 2019 10:16 AM (bIses)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 30, 2019 10:16 AM (NWiLs)
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The Seven Last Words jumped out at me. I had no idea Bishop Sheen authored dozens of volumes starting in the 30s. Wow.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 30, 2019 09:15 AM (Y4EXg)
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The Seven Last Words is great. I used to read it during Holy Week every year but I've misplaced it, so time for a new copy. Anything by Sheen is worth reading. Not only is he knowledgeable about the faith, he has a sense of humor.
Eris, thanks for the recommendation for the Flavia de Luce novels - I'm reading my way through them now on my Mother's Day Kindle! Very fun reading.
Thumbs up for the Chronicles of Prydain. Also, my very favorite children's author is Elizabeth Enright. She was the best.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 30, 2019 09:15 AM (Y4EXg)
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The Seven Last Words is great. I used to read it during Holy Week every year but I've misplaced it, so time for a new copy. Anything by Sheen is worth reading. Not only is he knowledgeable about the faith, he has a sense of humor.
Eris, thanks for the recommendation for the Flavia de Luce novels - I'm reading my way through them now on my Mother's Day Kindle! Very fun reading.
Thumbs up for the Chronicles of Prydain. Also, my very favorite children's author is Elizabeth Enright. She was the best.
Posted by: bluebell at June 30, 2019 10:18 AM (aXucN)
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Hey! I'm pretty good, neuroses notwithstanding. How about you?
Posted by: Insomniac at June 30, 2019 10:00 AM (NWiLs)
Doing OK, more or less. I do have to run, though - I've got a sink full of dishes that have to be done.
Hope you all have a lovely day.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 30, 2019 10:00 AM (NWiLs)
Doing OK, more or less. I do have to run, though - I've got a sink full of dishes that have to be done.
Hope you all have a lovely day.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 30, 2019 10:18 AM (Ki5SV)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 10:18 AM (kQs4Y)
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If global warming is a problem and the oceans do rise, we can protect the entire nation's coastline with a massive seawall made of nothing but copies of the endless books of anti-Trump drivel published in the past three years.
At the bookstore the other day I saw an original science fiction short story anthology (I won't give the name, don't promote crap) -- all stories about the terrible future that awaits us because of Orange Man Bad.
Will anyone read it? Will anyone but the contributors' moms even buy copies? What kind of idiot thinks publishing that is going to make money?
And if they're publishing it at a loss, as a way to "RESIST" and "fight the powah!" -- how would that even work? What minds could possibly be changed by a bunch of crappy, one-note propaganda stories? Nobody who doesn't already agree with the message ("ORANGE MAN BAD") will buy it or even bother to leaf through a copy in the store.
At the bookstore the other day I saw an original science fiction short story anthology (I won't give the name, don't promote crap) -- all stories about the terrible future that awaits us because of Orange Man Bad.
Will anyone read it? Will anyone but the contributors' moms even buy copies? What kind of idiot thinks publishing that is going to make money?
And if they're publishing it at a loss, as a way to "RESIST" and "fight the powah!" -- how would that even work? What minds could possibly be changed by a bunch of crappy, one-note propaganda stories? Nobody who doesn't already agree with the message ("ORANGE MAN BAD") will buy it or even bother to leaf through a copy in the store.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 30, 2019 10:18 AM (OHblf)
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Ha, just found the soundtrack LP for The Black Cauldron at the thrift store this week.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 30, 2019 10:20 AM (nH+m/)
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The Cottage Club Library, great memories. That's where I pulled my first train with the Princeton lacrosse team. The first of many, many trains. Mmmm mmm mmm.
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 30, 2019 10:20 AM (URJGH)
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Yeah, Blake. Great short story that I keep hoping he'll turn into a novel. And we can only hope that real life turns out the way the story does.
Short story by Bracken: What I Saw at the Coup
https://tinyurl.com/mzohe6b
Short story by Bracken: What I Saw at the Coup
https://tinyurl.com/mzohe6b
Posted by: RI Red at June 30, 2019 10:22 AM (pP8cY)
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Do they get into a fight with the werewolves of Michigan Tech? (Go Huskies!)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 10:03 AM (kQs4Y)
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I haven't worked that out yet. But I do intend to note the steep decline and then remarkable recovery of the wolf population.
And then the protracted debate between those who think they should be hunted RIGHT NOW and others who want them protected indefinitely.
More than meets the eye, etc...
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 10:03 AM (kQs4Y)
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I haven't worked that out yet. But I do intend to note the steep decline and then remarkable recovery of the wolf population.
And then the protracted debate between those who think they should be hunted RIGHT NOW and others who want them protected indefinitely.
More than meets the eye, etc...
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 10:22 AM (cfSRQ)
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"Even if it's these pants, which were unfortunately ruined shortly after this photograph was taken when the guy was beaten up by 4 enraged pimps for dressing 'like a damn fool'."
lol.
lol.
Posted by: DR.WTF at June 30, 2019 10:22 AM (aS1PU)
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We are suffering from cognitive dissonance.
This thread welcomes, very admirably, an inclusive list of identity groups. However, it demands, of those listed, one, translated from the Froggish, 'idiots without pants', that "pants are required".
Why is this one group singled out and discriminated against? Why are they required to abjure their cultural identity? Has the intersectionality of this group with many of the others listed been properly critiqued?
We demand an end to this injustice! We demand freesh*t stuff!
This thread welcomes, very admirably, an inclusive list of identity groups. However, it demands, of those listed, one, translated from the Froggish, 'idiots without pants', that "pants are required".
Why is this one group singled out and discriminated against? Why are they required to abjure their cultural identity? Has the intersectionality of this group with many of the others listed been properly critiqued?
We demand an end to this injustice! We demand free
Posted by: Brattleboro Wymyn's & Feline Health Coöperative at June 30, 2019 10:23 AM (DMUuz)
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167 Yeah, Blake. Great short story that I keep hoping he'll turn into a novel. And we can only hope that real life turns out the way the story does.
Short story by Bracken: What I Saw at the Coup
https://tinyurl.com/mzohe6b
Posted by: RI Red at June 30, 2019 10:22 AM (pP8cY)
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It would be the least expensive way, in terms of lives and property, to put this country back on track.
Unfortunately, I think his "Enemies, Foreign and Domestic" series is a more realistic scenario, what with the rise of Islam and the impending world wide debt tsunami.
Short story by Bracken: What I Saw at the Coup
https://tinyurl.com/mzohe6b
Posted by: RI Red at June 30, 2019 10:22 AM (pP8cY)
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It would be the least expensive way, in terms of lives and property, to put this country back on track.
Unfortunately, I think his "Enemies, Foreign and Domestic" series is a more realistic scenario, what with the rise of Islam and the impending world wide debt tsunami.
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 30, 2019 10:24 AM (WEBkv)
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Seems like Detroit would be a good setting for a vampire novel. All those empty houses . . . what's in the basements?
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 30, 2019 10:05 AM (OHblf)
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I ran an RPG in the 90s based on the the Siege of Detroit (as I called it). I dug out the files and intend to repurpose them.
It seems to me vampire stories must have three things to work:
Sex
Intrigue
Violence
Man of Destiny got me spun up on using all three, but now instead of starships, I get to dig into my firearms knowledge so all the gun bunnies will be happy.
Seems like Detroit would be a good setting for a vampire novel. All those empty houses . . . what's in the basements?
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 30, 2019 10:05 AM (OHblf)
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I ran an RPG in the 90s based on the the Siege of Detroit (as I called it). I dug out the files and intend to repurpose them.
It seems to me vampire stories must have three things to work:
Sex
Intrigue
Violence
Man of Destiny got me spun up on using all three, but now instead of starships, I get to dig into my firearms knowledge so all the gun bunnies will be happy.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 10:25 AM (cfSRQ)
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And then the protracted debate between those who think they should be hunted RIGHT NOW and others who want them protected indefinitely.
More than meets the eye, etc...
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 10:22 AM (cfSRQ)
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Special licenses for hunting werewolves and vampires? Maybe even put on the "Endangered Species" list?
That would be a hoot!
More than meets the eye, etc...
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 10:22 AM (cfSRQ)
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Special licenses for hunting werewolves and vampires? Maybe even put on the "Endangered Species" list?
That would be a hoot!
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 30, 2019 10:26 AM (WEBkv)
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Ya know, I was at the supermarket this AM and when there's a sale on Ice cream shoppers and their carts congregate around the ice cream freezer like its the Last Chopper out of Saigon
Posted by: JT at June 30, 2019 10:27 AM (5kkU5)
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Special licenses for hunting werewolves and vampires? Maybe even put on the "Endangered Species" list?
That would be a hoot!
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 30, 2019 10:26 AM (WEBkv)
They could have a "primitive weapon" season....garlic, mallet and stake.
That would be a hoot!
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 30, 2019 10:26 AM (WEBkv)
They could have a "primitive weapon" season....garlic, mallet and stake.
Posted by: BignJames at June 30, 2019 10:28 AM (ykq7q)
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Well, like MP4 (or is it 5? Can never remember and can't type and count on fingers at same time), chores await. And visiting the LibertyCon site to order something(s).
Have a very Maroon day, Morons/ettes!
Have a very Maroon day, Morons/ettes!
Posted by: RI Red at June 30, 2019 10:29 AM (pP8cY)
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WOOD PANELING and books written by WHITE MEN. A blatant display of rayciss, no? This location is a candidate for for sanitary napkins in the numale rest room.
Posted by: Coyne at June 30, 2019 10:29 AM (nBnOp)
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My wife just asked the son she's taking to summer camp if he packed his toiletries.
I told her that a summer camp is SURROUNDED by toilet trees.
I told her that a summer camp is SURROUNDED by toilet trees.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 30, 2019 10:30 AM (nH+m/)
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More than meets the eye, etc...
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 10:22 AM (cfSRQ)
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I'm intrigued! I would definitely read this.
Say, with the Great Lakes icing over, we in the Lower P. aren't safe from wandering wolf packs.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 10:22 AM (cfSRQ)
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I'm intrigued! I would definitely read this.
Say, with the Great Lakes icing over, we in the Lower P. aren't safe from wandering wolf packs.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 10:30 AM (kQs4Y)
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They could have a "primitive weapon" season....garlic, mallet and stake.
Posted by: BignJames at June 30, 2019 10:28 AM (ykq7q)
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Long bows or crossbows?
Hmm, dare we go with a "vampire tag" lottery system?
Posted by: BignJames at June 30, 2019 10:28 AM (ykq7q)
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Long bows or crossbows?
Hmm, dare we go with a "vampire tag" lottery system?
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 30, 2019 10:30 AM (WEBkv)
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I am shocked, SHOCKED to find literacy and erudition going on here!
Posted by: Insomniac at June 30, 2019 09:50 AM
To be fair, sometimes the ONT just can't contain it all.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 30, 2019 09:50 AM
To be fair, sometimes the ONT just can't contain it all.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 30, 2019 10:30 AM (DMUuz)
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I'm reading Billy Bathgate by E.L. Doctorow about a 15 year old Bronx boy who hangs out with psychopathic bootlegger Dutch Schultz. I'm quite enjoying it but can't help but notice that the first person narrator, the aforementioned 15 year old dropout who dreams only of becoming a thug gangster, sure has a large vocabulary, forcing me to the dictionary occasionally, and complex sentence structure rife with simile, metaphor, analogy and insight. I guess elementary education was better in those days.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 30, 2019 10:31 AM (+y/Ru)
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Posted by: JT at June 30, 2019 10:27 AM (5kkU5)
Well, in my defense, when Breyer's is $3.99 and I have an ecoupon for a dollar off, what would you expect me to do??!
Well, in my defense, when Breyer's is $3.99 and I have an ecoupon for a dollar off, what would you expect me to do??!
Posted by: April at June 30, 2019 10:32 AM (OX9vb)
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175 Special licenses for hunting werewolves and vampires? Maybe even put on the "Endangered Species" list?
That would be a hoot!
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 30, 2019 10:26 AM (WEBkv)
They could have a "primitive weapon" season....garlic, mallet and stake.
Posted by: BignJames at June 30, 2019 10:28 AM (ykq7q)
The ACLU, ASPCA and the Sierra Club file for and receive a permanent injunction prohibiting all such hunts. The end.
That would be a hoot!
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 30, 2019 10:26 AM (WEBkv)
They could have a "primitive weapon" season....garlic, mallet and stake.
Posted by: BignJames at June 30, 2019 10:28 AM (ykq7q)
The ACLU, ASPCA and the Sierra Club file for and receive a permanent injunction prohibiting all such hunts. The end.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 30, 2019 10:33 AM (NWiLs)
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The Cottage Club Library, great memories. That's where I pulled my first
train with the Princeton lacrosse team. The first of many, many trains.
Mmmm mmm mmm.
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 30, 2019 10:20 AM (URJGH)
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Pretty sure that was at Tiger Inn, Barack. But since you're butt-agnostic we will give you credit for both.
The Cottage Club Library, great memories. That's where I pulled my first
train with the Princeton lacrosse team. The first of many, many trains.
Mmmm mmm mmm.
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 30, 2019 10:20 AM (URJGH)
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Pretty sure that was at Tiger Inn, Barack. But since you're butt-agnostic we will give you credit for both.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, My Dogs Are Finally Sleeping at June 30, 2019 10:34 AM (Z216Q)
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O/T-time to wander. Need to get ready and take mom to sister's service.
I won't bore you with the details, suffice to say mom is a bit difficult and if today is only a trial, I'll consider it a win.
Later, all, it's been groovy!
I won't bore you with the details, suffice to say mom is a bit difficult and if today is only a trial, I'll consider it a win.
Later, all, it's been groovy!
Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 30, 2019 10:34 AM (WEBkv)
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Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 30, 2019 10:31 AM (+y/Ru)
Saw the movie in?? Wasn't real memorable.
Saw the movie in?? Wasn't real memorable.
Posted by: BignJames at June 30, 2019 10:35 AM (ykq7q)
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Good morning, fellow Hordesmen.
A couple of weeks ago I mentioned that I was translating (all on my own) a history of the Spanish Civil War, as remembered by someone who actually fought in it. A couple of you urged me to contact the original publisher to see if they'd be interested in an English edition.
So I wrote to Planeta, and got a very nice note back saying that, should they want an English edition, they would contact an English-language publisher directly, rather than an individual translator. So presumably it would be up to me to find a publisher and sell him on the idea.
Well, that sounds like too much work :-) and even if I were successful, then my project would promptly become a chore, rather than a labor of love. So I continue chugging through the chapters myself, and sending them to my kids once they're in proper English.
One drawback: the Peninsular Spanish of decades ago has little in common with the Spanish spoken by modern Mexicans, Puerto Ricans or Colombians, as I find out if I take a difficult phrase to a fellow parishioner :-) So I go to the forums at Wordreference.com when the idioms and extinct usages get to be too much for me. It's actually become quite an adventure.
A couple of weeks ago I mentioned that I was translating (all on my own) a history of the Spanish Civil War, as remembered by someone who actually fought in it. A couple of you urged me to contact the original publisher to see if they'd be interested in an English edition.
So I wrote to Planeta, and got a very nice note back saying that, should they want an English edition, they would contact an English-language publisher directly, rather than an individual translator. So presumably it would be up to me to find a publisher and sell him on the idea.
Well, that sounds like too much work :-) and even if I were successful, then my project would promptly become a chore, rather than a labor of love. So I continue chugging through the chapters myself, and sending them to my kids once they're in proper English.
One drawback: the Peninsular Spanish of decades ago has little in common with the Spanish spoken by modern Mexicans, Puerto Ricans or Colombians, as I find out if I take a difficult phrase to a fellow parishioner :-) So I go to the forums at Wordreference.com when the idioms and extinct usages get to be too much for me. It's actually become quite an adventure.
Posted by: Annalucia at June 30, 2019 10:37 AM (S6ArX)
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Almsot finished Arthur Conan Doyle's Micah Clark. This is one of his historical novels, the stuff he preferred to write but had to do Sherlock Holmes stories to make money. Its set during the Monmouth Rebellion, one of England's host of civil wars and upheavals.
This one happened in 1685 and was when a bastard cousin of the sitting king James Stuart was turning very Roman Catholic and trying to make the country go back to that faith instead of allowing some range of religious liberty.
The book is fairly long, and I've been reading a chapter or two a night. Its lush with period description and even language in the dialog, back when "zounds" was actually common use. Its a time period of both swords and muskets, sort of a transition which makes it particularly interesting.
The entire rebellion was a failure, doomed from the start. English people were still weary of civil war and fights from the Cromwell years not long before, and Monmouth was a pretty weak character and poor leader with an extremely sketchy claim to the throne. But it laid the foundation for James being thrown from the job not long after.
This one happened in 1685 and was when a bastard cousin of the sitting king James Stuart was turning very Roman Catholic and trying to make the country go back to that faith instead of allowing some range of religious liberty.
The book is fairly long, and I've been reading a chapter or two a night. Its lush with period description and even language in the dialog, back when "zounds" was actually common use. Its a time period of both swords and muskets, sort of a transition which makes it particularly interesting.
The entire rebellion was a failure, doomed from the start. English people were still weary of civil war and fights from the Cromwell years not long before, and Monmouth was a pretty weak character and poor leader with an extremely sketchy claim to the throne. But it laid the foundation for James being thrown from the job not long after.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2019 10:38 AM (39g3+)
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161 ... I remember Bishop Sheen on TV in the 50 and early 60s, but didn't know he had written so much. Time to investigate the books. Thanks for mentioning him.
Posted by: JTB at June 30, 2019 10:38 AM (bmdz3)
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I've been holding a copy of Henderson The Rain King for my upcoming beach trip, which I haven't read in many years. I'm thinking of sneaking in a few pages just to make sure I won't be disappointed. Between Bellow and Waugh I'm hoping for a few laughs.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, My Dogs Are Finally Sleeping at June 30, 2019 10:40 AM (Z216Q)
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This week I finished up Children of Ruin by Adrian Tchaikovsky, sequel to Children of Time. Pretty good science fiction saga, covering the expansion of the Humans and aliens from the first novel into other planets, where they meet the results of previous human terraforming results. No real central character(s) to latch onto, but some well-developed big ideas and a pretty good pace. No political sucker punches. 4/5
Posted by: motionview at June 30, 2019 10:41 AM (pYQR/)
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I am at work writing my next novel, incidentally. Its about a character you've already met in my previous books, but instead of being a single story its a series of shorter stories that have a connecting arc.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2019 10:42 AM (39g3+)
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I tried reading the Rule of Three, because its a classic novel but because nearly every fantasy novel since then has used the same "special one who has a humble job with a strong tutor who becomes the savior of..." trope since then I couldn't finish it. It was just overused and tired.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2019 10:45 AM (39g3+)
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71 I have done no reading this week, unless work stuff counts, or the instructions for operating a portable generator.
Posted by: Weasel at June 30, 2019 09:34 AM (MVjcR)
You read the instructions? Dude. This is a whole new side of you that we've never seen before.
Posted by: Weasel at June 30, 2019 09:34 AM (MVjcR)
You read the instructions? Dude. This is a whole new side of you that we've never seen before.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 30, 2019 10:45 AM (qc+VF)
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Well, in my defense, when Breyer's is $3.99 and I have an ecoupon for a dollar off, what would you expect me to do??!
Posted by: April
A coupla weeks ago, during an ice cream sale, I got my ice cream and as I attempted To back up w/ my cart a woman behind me reached for the freezer door and her hand touched my butt.
"Oh, I'm sorry" she said and I said it was ok but she KEPT ON apologizing repeatedly. And since it was jam packed with people and carts, I couldn't get away from her.
Finally in an effort to put an end to the endless apologies, I turned to her, gave her my best Clark Gable and said " Actually, it WAS kind of exciting".
And she started laughing and laughing and laughing OUT LOUD !
Finally I got away from her as her laughter changed pitch to that of an escaped mental patient.
I'm gonna bring a fake beard with me when I go grocery shopping.
Posted by: April
A coupla weeks ago, during an ice cream sale, I got my ice cream and as I attempted To back up w/ my cart a woman behind me reached for the freezer door and her hand touched my butt.
"Oh, I'm sorry" she said and I said it was ok but she KEPT ON apologizing repeatedly. And since it was jam packed with people and carts, I couldn't get away from her.
Finally in an effort to put an end to the endless apologies, I turned to her, gave her my best Clark Gable and said " Actually, it WAS kind of exciting".
And she started laughing and laughing and laughing OUT LOUD !
Finally I got away from her as her laughter changed pitch to that of an escaped mental patient.
I'm gonna bring a fake beard with me when I go grocery shopping.
Posted by: JT at June 30, 2019 10:45 AM (5kkU5)
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Personally, I recognize widespread guillotine use eventually would consume us all (as history teaches) but I keep thinking just a little use, maybe at Pershing Park (for inclusion and equality between the capital and the OEO Building) might be a useful warning to the scumbags. Is that wrong?
Posted by: Huck Follywood, My Dogs Disapprove Of My Laziness at June 30, 2019 10:45 AM (Z216Q)
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I've got lots of Tacturian taxi-driver friends. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Tacturian accent. I'm not joking.
Posted by: Joey "Junk Without Trunks" Biden at June 30, 2019 10:46 AM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 30, 2019 10:46 AM (+y/Ru)
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"This one happened in 1685 and was when a bastard cousin of the sitting
king James Stuart was turning very Roman Catholic and trying to make the
country go back to that faith instead of allowing some range of
religious liberty"
Doyle seems to have skimmed the history book too hastily. Monmouth was the bastard *son* of Charles II and it was his Uncle James who had gone Catholic. Monmouth was certainly the figurehead of the rebellion, but he himself was an insipid pretty boy who was more Narcissus than stronghearted Protestant.
Yeah, I know, it's fiction. But when writing about actual historical characters, I wish the authors would at least *try* to get some of the facts in.
king James Stuart was turning very Roman Catholic and trying to make the
country go back to that faith instead of allowing some range of
religious liberty"
Doyle seems to have skimmed the history book too hastily. Monmouth was the bastard *son* of Charles II and it was his Uncle James who had gone Catholic. Monmouth was certainly the figurehead of the rebellion, but he himself was an insipid pretty boy who was more Narcissus than stronghearted Protestant.
Yeah, I know, it's fiction. But when writing about actual historical characters, I wish the authors would at least *try* to get some of the facts in.
Posted by: Annalucia at June 30, 2019 10:46 AM (S6ArX)
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The ACLU, ASPCA and the Sierra Club file for and receive a permanent injunction prohibiting all such hunts. The end.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 30, 2019 10:33 AM (NWiLs)
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No, it's not like True Blood. Everything is under wraps. Very secret, but the machinations explain other things.
Anyhow, that's the thought.
Gotta go to mass now. Back later.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 30, 2019 10:33 AM (NWiLs)
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No, it's not like True Blood. Everything is under wraps. Very secret, but the machinations explain other things.
Anyhow, that's the thought.
Gotta go to mass now. Back later.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 10:47 AM (cfSRQ)
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And if they're publishing it at a loss, as a way to "RESIST" and "fight the powah!" -- how would that even work? What minds could possibly be changed by a bunch of crappy, one-note propaganda stories? Nobody who doesn't already agree with the message ("ORANGE MAN BAD") will buy it or even bother to leaf through a copy in the store.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 30, 2019 10:18 AM (OHblf)
I started reading (based on recommendations here, I assume) the book called "Appalling Stories: 13 Tales of Social Injustice."
I've read two of the stories, and am trying to resist the urge to place this work in the exact same category as you describe, only on the opposite side.
The first story is about the cake shop nonsense, exaggerated. The second is a weird story about a college professor who brags of his having infiltrated "the system" so as to destroy it.
Why must I read fiction about these things? We're already living it! Maybe there are people who... enjoy(?) such stories, and maybe there are some who want to be outraged. Either way, I don't quite see the point of the exercise. For me.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 30, 2019 10:18 AM (OHblf)
I started reading (based on recommendations here, I assume) the book called "Appalling Stories: 13 Tales of Social Injustice."
I've read two of the stories, and am trying to resist the urge to place this work in the exact same category as you describe, only on the opposite side.
The first story is about the cake shop nonsense, exaggerated. The second is a weird story about a college professor who brags of his having infiltrated "the system" so as to destroy it.
Why must I read fiction about these things? We're already living it! Maybe there are people who... enjoy(?) such stories, and maybe there are some who want to be outraged. Either way, I don't quite see the point of the exercise. For me.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 10:47 AM (cY3LT)
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195 71 I have done no reading this week, unless work stuff counts, or the instructions for operating a portable generator.
Posted by: Weasel at June 30, 2019 09:34 AM (MVjcR)
You read the instructions? Dude. This is a whole new side of you that we've never seen before.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 30, 2019 10:45 AM (qc+VF)
He's probably wearing pants, too.
Posted by: Weasel at June 30, 2019 09:34 AM (MVjcR)
You read the instructions? Dude. This is a whole new side of you that we've never seen before.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 30, 2019 10:45 AM (qc+VF)
He's probably wearing pants, too.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 30, 2019 10:47 AM (NWiLs)
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"I've come across "Mariolatry," usually in the context of Protestant sneering about the Catholic "cult" of the Virgin."
To catch a Unicorn you need a virgin. Set her in a quite place in the woods. The Unicorn will come lay it's head in her lap and go to sleep and then you can sneak up on it and kill it and cut it's horn off and take it to the king. It's supposed to be some kind of allegory, but it's mostly just all gory.
To catch a Unicorn you need a virgin. Set her in a quite place in the woods. The Unicorn will come lay it's head in her lap and go to sleep and then you can sneak up on it and kill it and cut it's horn off and take it to the king. It's supposed to be some kind of allegory, but it's mostly just all gory.
Posted by: freaked at June 30, 2019 10:48 AM (UdKB7)
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Hello Horde, good morning.
Hit a snag, in my writing. My book about my grandfather, war hero, etc. I had initial contact with the daughter of one of gpa's battalion commanders (now deceased), who said her dad left behind research material (he wrote a book in 1980s), including a file with my gpa's name on it. when i followed up with "I'd sure like to see that material"... she stopped responding. been a week with no contact. i am afraid i stumbled into some family minefield or something.
I don't want to push, for fear of scaring her off, permanently. her 'file' may be the ONLY primary material gpa left (he made reference to "maps and notes"). i desperately want to see.
at a loss how to proceed.
Hit a snag, in my writing. My book about my grandfather, war hero, etc. I had initial contact with the daughter of one of gpa's battalion commanders (now deceased), who said her dad left behind research material (he wrote a book in 1980s), including a file with my gpa's name on it. when i followed up with "I'd sure like to see that material"... she stopped responding. been a week with no contact. i am afraid i stumbled into some family minefield or something.
I don't want to push, for fear of scaring her off, permanently. her 'file' may be the ONLY primary material gpa left (he made reference to "maps and notes"). i desperately want to see.
at a loss how to proceed.
Posted by: goatexchange at June 30, 2019 10:48 AM (iBmJc)
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Doyle seems to have skimmed the history book too hastily. Monmouth was the bastard *son* of Charles II and it was his Uncle James who had gone Catholic. Monmouth was certainly the figurehead of the rebellion, but he himself was an insipid pretty boy who was more Narcissus than stronghearted Protestant.
I must have worded that oddly, that's what I meant to say about Monmouth. Yeah I guess its his bastard half-brother, but either way, he was a pretty lame king. He didn't get the facts wrong (it was incredibly meticulous in its research, like all of Doyle's work) I just mislabeled the family relationship.
I must have worded that oddly, that's what I meant to say about Monmouth. Yeah I guess its his bastard half-brother, but either way, he was a pretty lame king. He didn't get the facts wrong (it was incredibly meticulous in its research, like all of Doyle's work) I just mislabeled the family relationship.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2019 10:49 AM (39g3+)
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Burt: Nothing ages faster than "topical" fiction.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 30, 2019 10:49 AM (OHblf)
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The entire rebellion was a failure, doomed from the start. English people were still weary of civil war and fights from the Cromwell years not long before, and Monmouth was a pretty weak character and poor leader with an extremely sketchy claim to the throne. But it laid the foundation for James being thrown from the job not long after.
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The Stuarts would have one last gasp in their attempt to regain power in England. With French backing Bonnie Prince Charlie attempted to restore the Stuart Dynasty during the reign of George II in the 1745 Rebellion.
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The Stuarts would have one last gasp in their attempt to regain power in England. With French backing Bonnie Prince Charlie attempted to restore the Stuart Dynasty during the reign of George II in the 1745 Rebellion.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 30, 2019 10:49 AM (9SkN+)
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Actually looking over what I wrote I got all the facts in order as Doyle and history noted them, I withdraw the apology.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2019 10:50 AM (39g3+)
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It's supposed to be some kind of allegory, but it's mostly just all gory.
Posted by: freaked at June 30, 2019 10:48 AM (UdKB7)
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I laughed!
Posted by: freaked at June 30, 2019 10:48 AM (UdKB7)
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I laughed!
Posted by: Al Gore at June 30, 2019 10:50 AM (Z216Q)
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161 ... I remember Bishop Sheen on TV in the 50 and early 60s, but didn't know he had written so much. Time to investigate the books. Thanks for mentioning him.
Posted by: JTB at June 30, 2019 10:38 AM (bmdz3)
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Hi JTB and Mrs. JTB! Tonypete actually brought up Bishop Sheen - I just piled on
. If you remember the tv show, you might be interested in his book "Life is Worth Living." But he's written a ton of good stuff.
My husband and I particularly like "Three to Get Married" and have given it as gifts to engaged couples.
Posted by: JTB at June 30, 2019 10:38 AM (bmdz3)
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Hi JTB and Mrs. JTB! Tonypete actually brought up Bishop Sheen - I just piled on
. If you remember the tv show, you might be interested in his book "Life is Worth Living." But he's written a ton of good stuff.
My husband and I particularly like "Three to Get Married" and have given it as gifts to engaged couples.
Posted by: bluebell at June 30, 2019 10:50 AM (aXucN)
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>>To catch a Unicorn you need a virgin. Set her in a quite place in the woods. The Unicorn will come lay it's head in her lap and go to sleep and then you can sneak up on it and kill it and cut it's horn off and take it to the king. It's supposed to be some kind of allegory, but it's mostly just all gory.
The Virgin is key.
Otherwise, you have to excise a flacid horn.
Which is, oddly enough, harder. And ultimately, less impressive as a trophy.
The Virgin is key.
Otherwise, you have to excise a flacid horn.
Which is, oddly enough, harder. And ultimately, less impressive as a trophy.
Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2019 10:50 AM (rqoAH)
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 30, 2019 10:50 AM (dm05u)
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One drawback: the Peninsular Spanish of decades ago has little in common with the Spanish spoken by modern Mexicans, Puerto Ricans or Colombians, as I find out if I take a difficult phrase to a fellow parishioner :-) So I go to the forums at Wordreference.com when the idioms and extinct usages get to be too much for me. It's actually become quite an adventure.
This is one of the absolute glories of the internet age.
The best German dictionary is at dict.leo.org, I love the fact that in addition to their official definitions they have user forums to discuss usage.
You might like proz.com. It's a site for professional translators and covers oodles of language pairs. Again there are spirited discussions of usage. It's free. They'll try to badger you into paying for the premium membership, but that's only to get better access to translating jobs. The free membership includes all of the discussion forums.
This is one of the absolute glories of the internet age.
The best German dictionary is at dict.leo.org, I love the fact that in addition to their official definitions they have user forums to discuss usage.
You might like proz.com. It's a site for professional translators and covers oodles of language pairs. Again there are spirited discussions of usage. It's free. They'll try to badger you into paying for the premium membership, but that's only to get better access to translating jobs. The free membership includes all of the discussion forums.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 30, 2019 10:51 AM (fuK7c)
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To catch a Unicorn you need a virgin. Set her in a quite place in the woods. The Unicorn will come lay it's head in her lap and go to sleep and then you can sneak up on it and kill it and cut it's horn off and take it to the king.
There's a missing part to this tale.
Unicorns were berserk murderous monsters, they were deadly and terrifying to everyone except virgin girls. They'd try to kill (and in some stories eat) everyone other than a maiden. People have deleted that part and made them this mysterious wonderful gentle beast of beauty and love.
There's a missing part to this tale.
Unicorns were berserk murderous monsters, they were deadly and terrifying to everyone except virgin girls. They'd try to kill (and in some stories eat) everyone other than a maiden. People have deleted that part and made them this mysterious wonderful gentle beast of beauty and love.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2019 10:52 AM (39g3+)
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The book is better.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 30, 2019 10:46 AM (+y/Ru)
They usually are.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 30, 2019 10:46 AM (+y/Ru)
They usually are.
Posted by: BignJames at June 30, 2019 10:52 AM (ykq7q)
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"Otherwise, you have to excise a flacid horn"
In the Unicorn book, they mention one that can "raise it's horn at will". I think that might be some kind of allegory too.
In the Unicorn book, they mention one that can "raise it's horn at will". I think that might be some kind of allegory too.
Posted by: freaked at June 30, 2019 10:52 AM (UdKB7)
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It's supposed to be some kind of allegory, but it's mostly just all gory.
Posted by: freaked at June 30, 2019 10:48 AM (UdKB7)
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I laughed!
Posted by: Al Gore at June 30, 2019 10:50 AM (Z216Q)
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That story is in Palimpset, the story of my discovery we are all gay.
It's supposed to be some kind of allegory, but it's mostly just all gory.
Posted by: freaked at June 30, 2019 10:48 AM (UdKB7)
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I laughed!
Posted by: Al Gore at June 30, 2019 10:50 AM (Z216Q)
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That story is in Palimpset, the story of my discovery we are all gay.
Posted by: Gore Vidal at June 30, 2019 10:52 AM (Z216Q)
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I tried reading the Rule of Three, because its a classic novel but because nearly every fantasy novel since then has used the same "special one who has a humble job with a strong tutor who becomes the savior of..." trope since then I couldn't finish it. It was just overused and tired.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2019 10:45 AM (39g3+)
I can't tell if you're goofing or not. It's a lot older than any one book. It probably predates written language.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2019 10:45 AM (39g3+)
I can't tell if you're goofing or not. It's a lot older than any one book. It probably predates written language.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 30, 2019 10:52 AM (t+qrx)
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I am currently reading "How I Finally Found A KGB-Backed Election Result I Didn't Want To Rubber-Stamp" By Jimmy Carter with Giant Swamp Rabbit.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 30, 2019 10:52 AM (Ndje9)
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As for reading worth continuing, I started Jack Cashill's book on the TWA 800 crash. I had it sitting there for a while, and was wondering why I bought it in the first place (again, a recommendation here, I'm sure).
Having gotten only a couple chapters in, I know why I'm reading it.
Anyone who is wondering about our so-called intelligence community, and the kind of damage they can do, beyond trying to overthrow an election, this is a good introduction into it. I'm not sure where it all goes, frankly, and I'm wondering if it names some names that might be familiar to us today. Beside the Clintons, I mean.
Having gotten only a couple chapters in, I know why I'm reading it.
Anyone who is wondering about our so-called intelligence community, and the kind of damage they can do, beyond trying to overthrow an election, this is a good introduction into it. I'm not sure where it all goes, frankly, and I'm wondering if it names some names that might be familiar to us today. Beside the Clintons, I mean.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 10:53 AM (cY3LT)
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>>Unicorns were berserk murderous monsters, they were deadly and terrifying to everyone except virgin girls.
Much like Hello Kitty.
Much like Hello Kitty.
Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2019 10:53 AM (rqoAH)
Posted by: Unicorn at June 30, 2019 10:54 AM (rqoAH)
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"Unicorns were berserk murderous monsters"
That's right. A hunter could not take one by ordinary means, hence the virgin.
That's right. A hunter could not take one by ordinary means, hence the virgin.
Posted by: freaked at June 30, 2019 10:54 AM (UdKB7)
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Bandersnatch: thanks for information re Proz.com. I will definitely add them to the research list.
Posted by: Annalucia at June 30, 2019 10:54 AM (S6ArX)
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Michael Gilbert is an amazing writer. In one of his short stories, circus animals are the killers of a bully. In the book Smallbone Deceased, Character A tells Character B a story about Characters C and D that is so funny and memorable, the reader has no trouble understanding how it helps solve the murder many pages on.
He was also a religious man, though he didn't suffer fools. He claimed one of his favorite characters came to him when he was so bored with the sermon he began reading the Book of Common Prayer instead of listening, and was inspired by Christina Rossetti's Who Has Seen the Wind.
He also wrote well into his eighties, something I value more as the years pass!
I was introduced to him by my kids' pediatrician, also named Michael Gilbert, but not, he lamented, the famous one.
He was also a religious man, though he didn't suffer fools. He claimed one of his favorite characters came to him when he was so bored with the sermon he began reading the Book of Common Prayer instead of listening, and was inspired by Christina Rossetti's Who Has Seen the Wind.
He also wrote well into his eighties, something I value more as the years pass!
I was introduced to him by my kids' pediatrician, also named Michael Gilbert, but not, he lamented, the famous one.
Posted by: Wenda (sic) at June 30, 2019 10:55 AM (BCg2A)
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I am currently reading "How I Finally Found A KGB-Backed Election Result I Didn't Want To Rubber-Stamp" By Jimmy Carter with Giant Swamp Rabbit.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 30, 2019 10:52 AM (Ndje9)
Repeating a comment I made the other day, I saw Carter's face on a "local" news site here, and was sorely disappointed the headline didn't contain the words "Dead At Age 94."
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 30, 2019 10:52 AM (Ndje9)
Repeating a comment I made the other day, I saw Carter's face on a "local" news site here, and was sorely disappointed the headline didn't contain the words "Dead At Age 94."
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 10:55 AM (cY3LT)
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It's a lot older than any one book. It probably predates written language.
Clearly. I don't actually see any point at which I claimed it was first used in that book.
But as I said, the themes in it (which were probably somewhat fresh at the time) are exceedingly tired at this point because of overuse and extreme duplication in just about every young adult and child's fantasy book written now. That's not the fault of The Rule of Three, but it did make the book tough to get into.
Clearly. I don't actually see any point at which I claimed it was first used in that book.
But as I said, the themes in it (which were probably somewhat fresh at the time) are exceedingly tired at this point because of overuse and extreme duplication in just about every young adult and child's fantasy book written now. That's not the fault of The Rule of Three, but it did make the book tough to get into.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2019 10:56 AM (39g3+)
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The Unicorn could tell if the girl was not a virgin too. If she didn't smell right, the Unicorn would run her thru with it's horn.
Posted by: freaked at June 30, 2019 10:56 AM (UdKB7)
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Yeah I know that sound dirty.
Posted by: freaked at June 30, 2019 10:56 AM (UdKB7)
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188 That is a shame its not that easy, especially as you are doing the work.
Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2019 10:57 AM (BbGew)
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Hello Horde, good morning.
Hit a snag, in my writing. My book about my grandfather, war hero, etc. I had initial contact with the daughter of one of gpa's battalion commanders (now deceased), who said her dad left behind research material (he wrote a book in 1980s), including a file with my gpa's name on it. when i followed up with "I'd sure like to see that material"... she stopped responding. been a week with no contact. i am afraid i stumbled into some family minefield or something.
I don't want to push, for fear of scaring her off, permanently. her 'file' may be the ONLY primary material gpa left (he made reference to "maps and notes"). i desperately want to see.
at a loss how to proceed.
Posted by: goatexchange
Put on a Freddy Krueger mask one dark and stormy nite,knock on her door and when she answers say "I'm here for your grandpa's papers"
I'll bet she coughs 'em up !
Hit a snag, in my writing. My book about my grandfather, war hero, etc. I had initial contact with the daughter of one of gpa's battalion commanders (now deceased), who said her dad left behind research material (he wrote a book in 1980s), including a file with my gpa's name on it. when i followed up with "I'd sure like to see that material"... she stopped responding. been a week with no contact. i am afraid i stumbled into some family minefield or something.
I don't want to push, for fear of scaring her off, permanently. her 'file' may be the ONLY primary material gpa left (he made reference to "maps and notes"). i desperately want to see.
at a loss how to proceed.
Posted by: goatexchange
Put on a Freddy Krueger mask one dark and stormy nite,knock on her door and when she answers say "I'm here for your grandpa's papers"
I'll bet she coughs 'em up !
Posted by: JT at June 30, 2019 10:58 AM (5kkU5)
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Greetings literate fappers and fappees.
Many thanks to Hank Curmudgeon and CBD for the tool pr0n link. That's going to be fun to peruse.
I'm still moseying my way through The Log of a Cowboy which I'm enjoying quite a bit. It sorta reminds me of the movie The Man from Snowy River in overall plot, if a non-fiction book can have a plot, that is.
"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."
- Goucho Marx, my kind of Marxist
Many thanks to Hank Curmudgeon and CBD for the tool pr0n link. That's going to be fun to peruse.
I'm still moseying my way through The Log of a Cowboy which I'm enjoying quite a bit. It sorta reminds me of the movie The Man from Snowy River in overall plot, if a non-fiction book can have a plot, that is.
"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."
- Goucho Marx, my kind of Marxist
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at June 30, 2019 10:58 AM (HaL55)
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Burt: Nothing ages faster than "topical" fiction.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 30, 2019 10:49 AM (OHblf)
Yeah, I guess I hadn't thought of that, but it's pretty awful reading while it's current as well. It is for me, at least.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 30, 2019 10:49 AM (OHblf)
Yeah, I guess I hadn't thought of that, but it's pretty awful reading while it's current as well. It is for me, at least.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 10:58 AM (cY3LT)
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Clearly. I don't actually see any point at which I claimed it was first used in that book.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2019 10:56 AM (39g3+)
Sure, but if that's what turned you off from it, that rules out a whole lot of stories.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2019 10:56 AM (39g3+)
Sure, but if that's what turned you off from it, that rules out a whole lot of stories.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 30, 2019 10:59 AM (t+qrx)
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Reading Claudius the God, a constant presence throughout it, at least as far as I've read, is Herod and, by association, the joooos. Which leads me to think of how revolutionary concept it was to replace polytheism with just one master blaster. I understand the appeal of believing in something like Neptune after witnessing a big ass storm at sea and thinking "someone's pissed off"; but that then leads to insanity like Caligula ordering troops to fire arrows and spears into the sea and declaring victory. And then there's Emperors declaring themselves deities which significant parts of the empire must have rolled their eyes over.
So yeah, the Jews and early Christians had making sense on their side.
So yeah, the Jews and early Christians had making sense on their side.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 30, 2019 10:59 AM (y7DUB)
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I started reading (based on recommendations here, I assume) the book called "Appalling Stories: 13 Tales of Social Injustice."...
Why must I read fiction about these things? We're already living it! Maybe there are people who... enjoy(?) such stories, and maybe there are some who want to be outraged. Either way, I don't quite see the point of the exercise. For me.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 10:47 AM (cY3LT)
I read that book, too, and I agree, some of the stories were a bit heavy-handed, But the title of the book was a tip-off as to the nature of the content I'd be reading, so I pretty much expected it.
Why must I read fiction about these things? We're already living it! Maybe there are people who... enjoy(?) such stories, and maybe there are some who want to be outraged. Either way, I don't quite see the point of the exercise. For me.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 10:47 AM (cY3LT)
I read that book, too, and I agree, some of the stories were a bit heavy-handed, But the title of the book was a tip-off as to the nature of the content I'd be reading, so I pretty much expected it.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at June 30, 2019 11:01 AM (JVrQi)
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The Unicorn could tell if the girl was not a virgin too. If she didn't smell right, the Unicorn would run her thru with it's horn.
Posted by: freaked at June 30, 2019 10:56 AM (UdKB7)
Speaking of unicorns, because I guess so, I watched the Amazon (sue me) series, "Good Omens," which I believe is based on a comic. I won't bore with the details here, but there's a series of vignettes where the angel and demon are sorta passing through history, and as they're observing the Ark of Noah being loaded, a lone unicorn runs the other way. One of them, the demon I believe, says something like "oh, I'm sure it'll be fine."
I laughed.
Posted by: freaked at June 30, 2019 10:56 AM (UdKB7)
Speaking of unicorns, because I guess so, I watched the Amazon (sue me) series, "Good Omens," which I believe is based on a comic. I won't bore with the details here, but there's a series of vignettes where the angel and demon are sorta passing through history, and as they're observing the Ark of Noah being loaded, a lone unicorn runs the other way. One of them, the demon I believe, says something like "oh, I'm sure it'll be fine."
I laughed.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 11:02 AM (cY3LT)
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 30, 2019 11:02 AM (qc+VF)
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Read down to this far
But need to go to the store to buy coffee, lots of it.
But need to go to the store to buy coffee, lots of it.
Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2019 11:03 AM (BbGew)
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Burt: Nothing ages faster than "topical" fiction.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 30, 2019 10:49 AM (OHblf)
Assuming sanity prevails on this global warming scam, lots of contemporary dickweed authors will richly deserve the LOLGFs they receive.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 30, 2019 10:49 AM (OHblf)
Assuming sanity prevails on this global warming scam, lots of contemporary dickweed authors will richly deserve the LOLGFs they receive.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 30, 2019 11:03 AM (y7DUB)
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I started reading (based on recommendations here, I assume) the book called "Appalling Stories: 13 Tales of Social Injustice."...
Why must I read fiction about these things? We're already living it! Maybe there are people who... enjoy(?) such stories, and maybe there are some who want to be outraged. Either way, I don't quite see the point of the exercise. For me.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 10:47 AM (cY3LT)
I read that book, too, and I agree, some of the stories were a bit heavy-handed, But the title of the book was a tip-off as to the nature of the content I'd be reading, so I pretty much expected it.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at June 30, 2019 11:01 AM (JVrQi)
It might have been your recommendation then!
If I intend to skip most of them, are there any of the stories you might consider worth a look?
Why must I read fiction about these things? We're already living it! Maybe there are people who... enjoy(?) such stories, and maybe there are some who want to be outraged. Either way, I don't quite see the point of the exercise. For me.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 10:47 AM (cY3LT)
I read that book, too, and I agree, some of the stories were a bit heavy-handed, But the title of the book was a tip-off as to the nature of the content I'd be reading, so I pretty much expected it.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at June 30, 2019 11:01 AM (JVrQi)
It might have been your recommendation then!
If I intend to skip most of them, are there any of the stories you might consider worth a look?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 11:04 AM (cY3LT)
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So yeah, the Jews and early Christians had making sense on their side.
Eh. I think polytheism more readily depicts what we see in life. If there is one omnipotent God then you have to twist yourself into knots to justify misery and suffering.
If there are a bunch of gods you can say oh that godess stopped giving up the mish to that god and now he's pissed so he broke a city in two and spilled fire on it.
Eh. I think polytheism more readily depicts what we see in life. If there is one omnipotent God then you have to twist yourself into knots to justify misery and suffering.
If there are a bunch of gods you can say oh that godess stopped giving up the mish to that god and now he's pissed so he broke a city in two and spilled fire on it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 30, 2019 11:04 AM (fuK7c)
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"188 That is a shame its not that easy, especially as you are doing the work."
If I don't HAVE to do it, it's not work :-)
If I don't HAVE to do it, it's not work :-)
Posted by: Annalucia at June 30, 2019 11:04 AM (S6ArX)
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Burt: Nothing ages faster than "topical" fiction.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 30, 2019 10:49 AM (OHblf)
Assuming sanity prevails on this global warming scam, lots of contemporary dickweed authors will richly deserve the LOLGFs they receive.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 30, 2019 11:03 AM (y7DUB)
My mind "goes there" all the time, when I think of how we're living in the early 21st century. I find myself wondering "a hundred years from now, or maybe a thousand, when humans (assuming we haven't killed ourselves off entirely) think of this time period, they'll shake their heads in pity as they contemplate our insanity."
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 30, 2019 10:49 AM (OHblf)
Assuming sanity prevails on this global warming scam, lots of contemporary dickweed authors will richly deserve the LOLGFs they receive.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 30, 2019 11:03 AM (y7DUB)
My mind "goes there" all the time, when I think of how we're living in the early 21st century. I find myself wondering "a hundred years from now, or maybe a thousand, when humans (assuming we haven't killed ourselves off entirely) think of this time period, they'll shake their heads in pity as they contemplate our insanity."
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 11:06 AM (cY3LT)
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Freckled and Fourteen by Viola Rowe.
Just came across this book buried in one of the bookcases upstairs. I loved it as a kid and will probably re-read it tonight. Anyone else know this author and whether or not she wrote other YA tomes?
Just came across this book buried in one of the bookcases upstairs. I loved it as a kid and will probably re-read it tonight. Anyone else know this author and whether or not she wrote other YA tomes?
Posted by: IrishEi at June 30, 2019 11:07 AM (NtglE)
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If you want to understand ancient polytheism, talk to modern Hindus. There's the "folk" level of belief and practice where everything has a different god and they have soap-opera relationship dramas (the gods, I mean, though presumably also Hindus).
But then there's the more educated, philosophical belief, in which all the gods are aspects of some central divine power. Which sounds exactly like what Socrates was saying when accused of "atheism" by his fellow Athenians.
But then there's the more educated, philosophical belief, in which all the gods are aspects of some central divine power. Which sounds exactly like what Socrates was saying when accused of "atheism" by his fellow Athenians.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 30, 2019 11:08 AM (OHblf)
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"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."
- Goucho Marx, my kind of Marxist
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at June 30, 2019 10:58 AM (HaL55)
I thought this comment was mandatory for the book thread. Like it was supposed to be made withing the first 10 or so comments.
Kinda like the "yay, the food thread" comment (by the Scoamf) is for the Pet Thread.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."
- Goucho Marx, my kind of Marxist
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at June 30, 2019 10:58 AM (HaL55)
I thought this comment was mandatory for the book thread. Like it was supposed to be made withing the first 10 or so comments.
Kinda like the "yay, the food thread" comment (by the Scoamf) is for the Pet Thread.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 11:09 AM (cY3LT)
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Thanks OM. Excellent.
TACTURIENCY is the desire to touch something.
Is there a word for always wanting to hit something?
TACTURIENCY is the desire to touch something.
Is there a word for always wanting to hit something?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 30, 2019 11:10 AM (8lGpb)
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I will say this for Carter; at least he didn't use the entire Nat/Sec Apparatus to wiretap and frame Ronald Reagan. And he hired Pat Caddell.
Horrible president, though. For example he tried to stop Sadat from making peace with Israel in hopes of enthroning Arafat as part of the deal. Fortunately for him, Barry took the Worst Modern President title away from him.
ps; you'd be surprised at how many books Giant Swamp Rabbit has ghost-written.
Horrible president, though. For example he tried to stop Sadat from making peace with Israel in hopes of enthroning Arafat as part of the deal. Fortunately for him, Barry took the Worst Modern President title away from him.
ps; you'd be surprised at how many books Giant Swamp Rabbit has ghost-written.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 30, 2019 11:10 AM (Ndje9)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2019 11:11 AM (PxX58)
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215 To catch a Unicorn you need a virgin. Set her in a quite place in the woods. The Unicorn will come lay it's head in her lap and go to sleep and then you can sneak up on it and kill it and cut it's horn off and take it to the king.
There's a missing part to this tale.
Unicorns were berserk murderous monsters, they were deadly and terrifying to everyone except virgin girls. They'd try to kill (and in some stories eat) everyone other than a maiden. People have deleted that part and made them this mysterious wonderful gentle beast of beauty and love.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2019 10:52 AM (39g3+)
Horny bastards.
There's a missing part to this tale.
Unicorns were berserk murderous monsters, they were deadly and terrifying to everyone except virgin girls. They'd try to kill (and in some stories eat) everyone other than a maiden. People have deleted that part and made them this mysterious wonderful gentle beast of beauty and love.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2019 10:52 AM (39g3+)
Horny bastards.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 30, 2019 11:11 AM (NWiLs)
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211 ... Hi bluebell, Thanks for the suggestions. I'm picking up one of Sheen's book from the local library shortly. I'll hit the used book store this week for some others. These seem like the kind of books to have in dead tree format.
Posted by: JTB at June 30, 2019 11:12 AM (bmdz3)
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"the Ark of Noah being loaded, a lone unicorn runs the other way"
The ark started moving, it drifted with the tide
The unicorns looked up from the rocks and they cried
And the waters came down and sort of floated them away
That's why you never see unicorns to this very day
You'll see green alligators and long neck geese
Some humpty backed camels and some chimpanzees
Some cats and rats and elephants, but sure as you're born
You're never gonna see no unicorns
The ark started moving, it drifted with the tide
The unicorns looked up from the rocks and they cried
And the waters came down and sort of floated them away
That's why you never see unicorns to this very day
You'll see green alligators and long neck geese
Some humpty backed camels and some chimpanzees
Some cats and rats and elephants, but sure as you're born
You're never gonna see no unicorns
Posted by: freaked at June 30, 2019 11:12 AM (UdKB7)
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"...and as they're observing the Ark of Noah being loaded, a lone unicorn runs the other way. One of them, the demon I believe, says something like "oh, I'm sure it'll be fine."
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Reminds me of that scene in Fantasia 2000 where the dragons and unicorn laugh at the stoopid animals going into the ark two by two.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn7eOh5h3tk
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Reminds me of that scene in Fantasia 2000 where the dragons and unicorn laugh at the stoopid animals going into the ark two by two.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn7eOh5h3tk
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 11:13 AM (kQs4Y)
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Oh yeah that was by Shel Silverstein
Posted by: freaked at June 30, 2019 11:14 AM (UdKB7)
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If there are a bunch of gods you can say oh that godess stopped giving up the mish to that god and now he's pissed so he broke a city in two and spilled fire on it.
Well, as RC Sproul said, it is hard to explain the presence of evil if God is omnipotent and holy, but the atheist who rejects God entirely has a worse problem: you can't explain evil OR good, there's no source or reason to believe in anything good, either. Its all just empty and meaningless.
Well, as RC Sproul said, it is hard to explain the presence of evil if God is omnipotent and holy, but the atheist who rejects God entirely has a worse problem: you can't explain evil OR good, there's no source or reason to believe in anything good, either. Its all just empty and meaningless.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2019 11:15 AM (39g3+)
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Posted by: Trimegistus at June 30, 2019 11:08 AM (OHblf)
My son in law's mother is a very devout Hindu and only her lack of fluency in English prevents her from explaining it, and the entire history of India, to me in great detail. She's a really neat person who loves that I appreciate her cooking which she does tirelessly.
My son in law's mother is a very devout Hindu and only her lack of fluency in English prevents her from explaining it, and the entire history of India, to me in great detail. She's a really neat person who loves that I appreciate her cooking which she does tirelessly.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 30, 2019 11:15 AM (y7DUB)
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There's an old Charles Addams cartoon of a group of unicorns watching the Ark sail off without them.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 30, 2019 11:16 AM (OHblf)
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Reading Mr. Muse's comments on Muldoon's book reminded me of another WWII diary recently resurrected. Over at James Lilek's blog (where the comments are *almost* as good as they are here) is a commenter who goes by Mongo.
Mongo has republished his father's diary that he wrote as an infantryman during the war. It's some very interesting reading. The title is "Dig in!: an Infantryman's Journal" written by Timothy Fallon Jr. and is available at amazon in both paperback and kindled. The Amazon code (there's no ISBN) is B07RN1WG2X.
Well worth the read
Mongo has republished his father's diary that he wrote as an infantryman during the war. It's some very interesting reading. The title is "Dig in!: an Infantryman's Journal" written by Timothy Fallon Jr. and is available at amazon in both paperback and kindled. The Amazon code (there's no ISBN) is B07RN1WG2X.
Well worth the read
Posted by: Three and One at June 30, 2019 11:17 AM (2tvJ1)
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"the Ark of Noah being loaded, a lone unicorn runs the other way"
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The ark started moving, it drifted with the tide
The unicorns looked up from the rocks and they cried
And the waters came down and sort of floated them away
That's why you never see unicorns to this very day
You'll see green alligators and long neck geese
Some humpty backed camels and some chimpanzees
Some cats and rats and elephants, but sure as you're born
You're never gonna see no unicorns
Posted by: freaked at June 30, 2019 11:12 AM (UdKB7)
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Reminds me of that scene in Fantasia 2000 where the dragons and unicorn laugh at the stoopid animals going into the ark two by two.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn7eOh5h3tk
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 11:13 AM (kQs4Y)
Aha, so the Good Omens folks are not original.
On reflection, that would make hella sense that somebody else thought of it before. I guess I've lived a sheltered life up to this point then.
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The ark started moving, it drifted with the tide
The unicorns looked up from the rocks and they cried
And the waters came down and sort of floated them away
That's why you never see unicorns to this very day
You'll see green alligators and long neck geese
Some humpty backed camels and some chimpanzees
Some cats and rats and elephants, but sure as you're born
You're never gonna see no unicorns
Posted by: freaked at June 30, 2019 11:12 AM (UdKB7)
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Reminds me of that scene in Fantasia 2000 where the dragons and unicorn laugh at the stoopid animals going into the ark two by two.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn7eOh5h3tk
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 11:13 AM (kQs4Y)
Aha, so the Good Omens folks are not original.
On reflection, that would make hella sense that somebody else thought of it before. I guess I've lived a sheltered life up to this point then.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 11:17 AM (cY3LT)
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Thank you to everyone preordering. I'm assuming there are some paperback purchases as well, so thanks for that as well (I get notifications of those when copies ship).
When you get your copies, I really hope you enjoy it and decide to write a review.
When you get your copies, I really hope you enjoy it and decide to write a review.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts and pre-order Crystal Embers today! at June 30, 2019 11:18 AM (zZbCU)
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I guess I've lived a sheltered life up to this point then.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 11:17 AM (cY3LT)
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Surely the rough japery of the Horde has rubbed off the peach fuzz of youthful innocence by now.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 11:17 AM (cY3LT)
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Surely the rough japery of the Horde has rubbed off the peach fuzz of youthful innocence by now.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 11:19 AM (kQs4Y)
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"Good Omens" is a book by Pratchett and Gaiman, and it is excellent. I'll not watch the series because I don't want it ruined, which is probably inevitable, given when the book was written - one of the important elements is an answering machine.
Posted by: annem at June 30, 2019 11:19 AM (Fm81C)
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Horrible president, though. For example he tried to stop Sadat from making peace with Israel in hopes of enthroning Arafat as part of the deal. Fortunately for him, Barry took the Worst Modern President title away from him.
When Sadat was assassinated I really hated Carter who risked nothing except his dogshit legacy.
When Sadat was assassinated I really hated Carter who risked nothing except his dogshit legacy.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 30, 2019 11:20 AM (y7DUB)
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Reminds me of that scene in Fantasia 2000 where the dragons and unicorn laugh at the stoopid animals going into the ark two by two.
Oh that's adorbs but it didn't have the topless girl centaurs.
Oh that's adorbs but it didn't have the topless girl centaurs.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 30, 2019 11:22 AM (fuK7c)
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When Sadat was assassinated I really hated Carter who risked nothing except his dogshit legacy.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 30, 2019 11:20 AM (y7DUB)
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When Sadat was assassinated, my friend's Arab language instructor laughed joyfully. "I am so glad he's dead!", she trilled.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 30, 2019 11:20 AM (y7DUB)
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When Sadat was assassinated, my friend's Arab language instructor laughed joyfully. "I am so glad he's dead!", she trilled.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 11:22 AM (kQs4Y)
Posted by: freaked at June 30, 2019 11:22 AM (UdKB7)
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"Good Omens" is a book by Pratchett and Gaiman, and it is excellent. I'll not watch the series because I don't want it ruined, which is probably inevitable, given when the book was written - one of the important elements is an answering machine.
Posted by: annem at June 30, 2019 11:19 AM (Fm81C)
The answering machine is there. Perhaps not as crucial as it was in the book though (which I haven't read).
By the way, the name Neil Gaiman was only known to me as someone who dipped his toe into the comicgate drama... for the other side. Ethan Van Sciver mentions him, and expresses some disappointment, but I don't really recall what Gaiman is supposed to have done or said.
Posted by: annem at June 30, 2019 11:19 AM (Fm81C)
The answering machine is there. Perhaps not as crucial as it was in the book though (which I haven't read).
By the way, the name Neil Gaiman was only known to me as someone who dipped his toe into the comicgate drama... for the other side. Ethan Van Sciver mentions him, and expresses some disappointment, but I don't really recall what Gaiman is supposed to have done or said.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 11:22 AM (cY3LT)
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Has anyone read
HIS MAJESTY'S DRAGON?
The Napoleonic wars but with Dragons, sounds like an interesting series.
HIS MAJESTY'S DRAGON?
The Napoleonic wars but with Dragons, sounds like an interesting series.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at June 30, 2019 11:23 AM (dKiJG)
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I guess I've lived a sheltered life up to this point then.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 11:17 AM (cY3LT)
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Surely the rough japery of the Horde has rubbed off the peach fuzz of youthful innocence by now.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 11:19 AM (kQs4Y)
Oh, it has! I just have a lot of fuzz.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 11:17 AM (cY3LT)
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Surely the rough japery of the Horde has rubbed off the peach fuzz of youthful innocence by now.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 11:19 AM (kQs4Y)
Oh, it has! I just have a lot of fuzz.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 11:24 AM (cY3LT)
Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2019 11:24 AM (rqoAH)
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When Sadat was assassinated, my friend's Arab language instructor laughed joyfully. "I am so glad he's dead!", she trilled.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 11:22 AM (kQs4Y)
And that right there is the fake religion known as is-slum.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 11:22 AM (kQs4Y)
And that right there is the fake religion known as is-slum.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 30, 2019 11:24 AM (y7DUB)
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6
I like today's word. John used to joke that a shopped by touch. I'm sure
I've used the "We look with our eyes, not our hands." line with my
kids, but it isn't really true for me.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 30, 2019 09:02 AM (uquGJ)
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=I taught my kids and grandkids that we (they of course, not me) "Touch with our eyes, not our hands"
I like today's word. John used to joke that a shopped by touch. I'm sure
I've used the "We look with our eyes, not our hands." line with my
kids, but it isn't really true for me.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 30, 2019 09:02 AM (uquGJ)
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=I taught my kids and grandkids that we (they of course, not me) "Touch with our eyes, not our hands"
Posted by: Three and One at June 30, 2019 11:26 AM (2tvJ1)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2019 11:26 AM (39g3+)
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Horrible president, though. For example he tried
to stop Sadat from making peace with Israel in hopes of enthroning
Arafat as part of the deal. Fortunately for him, Barry took the Worst
Modern President title away from him.
When Sadat was assassinated I really hated Carter who risked nothing except his dogshit legacy.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 30, 2019 11:20 AM (y7DUB)
to stop Sadat from making peace with Israel in hopes of enthroning
Arafat as part of the deal. Fortunately for him, Barry took the Worst
Modern President title away from him.
When Sadat was assassinated I really hated Carter who risked nothing except his dogshit legacy.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 30, 2019 11:20 AM (y7DUB)
Posted by: Quint at June 30, 2019 11:27 AM (n13/j)
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I despised Carter as president. So much that I had a bumper sticker in the late 70s that read "Don't blame me, I voted for Ford."
Posted by: JTB at June 30, 2019 11:28 AM (bmdz3)
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Burt, thanks for the info. I'm sure Gaiman is someone I wouldn't agree with about much of anything (Gamergate is so convoluted I can't even begin to fathom), but I read GO when it came out, before I woke up to the world, and have loved it and reread it many times since.
Posted by: annem at June 30, 2019 11:29 AM (Fm81C)
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Is there a word for always wanting to hit something?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 30, 2019 11:10 AM (8lGpb)
Priapism?
Yeah, I'm back. No chores. It's raining.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 30, 2019 11:10 AM (8lGpb)
Priapism?
Yeah, I'm back. No chores. It's raining.
Posted by: RI Red at June 30, 2019 11:31 AM (pP8cY)
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> "Good Omens" is a book by Pratchett and Gaiman, and it is excellent.
I'll not watch the series because I don't want it ruined, which is
probably inevitable, given when the book was written - one of the
important elements is an answering machine.
Gaiman was heavily involved with the production.
I thought the first episode was a bit slow, but the rest of it was pretty good. It definitely didn't butcher the book.
Yeah, there were the occasional nods to PC, but overall, I enjoyed it.
Minor spoiler: some people are upset that they made Adam and Eve black. I'm not sure why that's such a big deal -- from DNA, we know that the center of human genetic diversity is in Africa. So, yeah, whether you're a literal creationist or not, the first human beings were probably black.
I'll not watch the series because I don't want it ruined, which is
probably inevitable, given when the book was written - one of the
important elements is an answering machine.
Gaiman was heavily involved with the production.
I thought the first episode was a bit slow, but the rest of it was pretty good. It definitely didn't butcher the book.
Yeah, there were the occasional nods to PC, but overall, I enjoyed it.
Minor spoiler: some people are upset that they made Adam and Eve black. I'm not sure why that's such a big deal -- from DNA, we know that the center of human genetic diversity is in Africa. So, yeah, whether you're a literal creationist or not, the first human beings were probably black.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 11:31 AM (JUUk1)
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When Sadat was assassinated, my friend's Arab language instructor laughed joyfully. "I am so glad he's dead!", she trilled.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 11:22 AM (kQs4Y)
And that right there is the fake religion known as is-slum.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 30, 2019 11:24 AM (y7DUB)
Back in the day, when I was so much younger than now, and contained much more peach fuzz, I worked with and around quite a few Middle Eastern doctors, who were quite Americanized in most ways.
I listened to the twisted logic and blatant insanity of some of them, as they contorted their faces around the subjects of Israel and Palestine and all the rest.
There was one guy, an Egyptian, who would speak in hushed tones at times, with a much more measured view of that part of the world. He wasn't bitter or angry or strident, just... very educated.
It won't shock too many folks here when I mention he was a Coptic Christian. Not muslim.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 11:22 AM (kQs4Y)
And that right there is the fake religion known as is-slum.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 30, 2019 11:24 AM (y7DUB)
Back in the day, when I was so much younger than now, and contained much more peach fuzz, I worked with and around quite a few Middle Eastern doctors, who were quite Americanized in most ways.
I listened to the twisted logic and blatant insanity of some of them, as they contorted their faces around the subjects of Israel and Palestine and all the rest.
There was one guy, an Egyptian, who would speak in hushed tones at times, with a much more measured view of that part of the world. He wasn't bitter or angry or strident, just... very educated.
It won't shock too many folks here when I mention he was a Coptic Christian. Not muslim.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 11:31 AM (cY3LT)
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> "Not with us!"
> --Pedo Isle visitors
I see that one of the "12 year old drag queen" moms, who lets her son put on makeup and gyrate on stage in gay bars, is now upset that pedos are trying to contact him.
Just what the fuck did you expect, you crazy bitch?
> --Pedo Isle visitors
I see that one of the "12 year old drag queen" moms, who lets her son put on makeup and gyrate on stage in gay bars, is now upset that pedos are trying to contact him.
Just what the fuck did you expect, you crazy bitch?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 11:32 AM (JUUk1)
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Carter was likely more inept and Obama's bad results were more by design. It is a small difference, the are both lefties who don't like this country much. Carter probably liked it more but as Reagan said, "the problem with liberals is they no so much that isn't so". (paraphrase)
Posted by: Quint at June 30, 2019 11:34 AM (n13/j)
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It might have been your recommendation then!
If I intend to skip most of them, are there any of the stories you might consider worth a look?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 11:04 AM (cY3LT)
I read the book too long ago, and there has been a sequel or two I read since then, that I honestly don't remember.
The latest one has a good story about a Christian minister serving on a mining colony in the asteroid belt wondering to God about whether he is actually called to the ministry, and I can't tell you too much more about without giving it away but I thought it was a great story with an obviously Christian theme to it.
If I intend to skip most of them, are there any of the stories you might consider worth a look?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 11:04 AM (cY3LT)
I read the book too long ago, and there has been a sequel or two I read since then, that I honestly don't remember.
The latest one has a good story about a Christian minister serving on a mining colony in the asteroid belt wondering to God about whether he is actually called to the ministry, and I can't tell you too much more about without giving it away but I thought it was a great story with an obviously Christian theme to it.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at June 30, 2019 11:34 AM (JVrQi)
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Burt, thanks for the info. I'm sure Gaiman is someone I wouldn't agree with about much of anything (Gamergate is so convoluted I can't even begin to fathom), but I read GO when it came out, before I woke up to the world, and have loved it and reread it many times since.
Posted by: annem at June 30, 2019 11:29 AM (Fm81C)
I'm considering picking up the book.
There was a cute story a week or so ago, apparently some folks who object to the way the story presents God and all that, they were calling for a boycott of Netflix.
Netflix didn't make the series. Amazon did.
Netflix apparently responded by saying "since you asked, we promise not to make any more episodes of the show."
Amazon replied by saying "and we promise not to make any more of 'Stranger Things."
Posted by: annem at June 30, 2019 11:29 AM (Fm81C)
I'm considering picking up the book.
There was a cute story a week or so ago, apparently some folks who object to the way the story presents God and all that, they were calling for a boycott of Netflix.
Netflix didn't make the series. Amazon did.
Netflix apparently responded by saying "since you asked, we promise not to make any more episodes of the show."
Amazon replied by saying "and we promise not to make any more of 'Stranger Things."
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 11:35 AM (cY3LT)
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The Seven Last Words jumped out at me. I had no idea Bishop Sheen authored dozens of volumes starting in the 30s. Wow.
Posted by: Tonypete
I highly recommend Death on a Friday Afternoon by Fr. Richard John Neuhaus. Very deep and profound ponderations on the meaning of Christ's last utterances from the Cross.
Along with that, The Fourth Cup by Dr. Scott Hahn. Discusses the traditional Jewish Passover meal, how that structure matches with Jesus' Passover sacrifice and how the consummation of Christ's redeeming mission was signified by His taking the bitter win from the hyssop branch before expiring. That last "Cup" He had neglected in the previous night's Last Supper. I'm not explaining it correctly but Dr. Hahn does. It is revelatory.
Posted by: Tonypete
I highly recommend Death on a Friday Afternoon by Fr. Richard John Neuhaus. Very deep and profound ponderations on the meaning of Christ's last utterances from the Cross.
Along with that, The Fourth Cup by Dr. Scott Hahn. Discusses the traditional Jewish Passover meal, how that structure matches with Jesus' Passover sacrifice and how the consummation of Christ's redeeming mission was signified by His taking the bitter win from the hyssop branch before expiring. That last "Cup" He had neglected in the previous night's Last Supper. I'm not explaining it correctly but Dr. Hahn does. It is revelatory.
Posted by: Sharkman at June 30, 2019 11:35 AM (N1kno)
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By the way, the name Neil Gaiman was only known to me as someone who dipped his toe into the comicgate drama... for the other side. Ethan Van Sciver mentions him, and expresses some disappointment, but I don't really recall what Gaiman is supposed to have done or said.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 11:22 AM (cY3LT)
I don't remember either. I went to go look it up, but all the results are either from SJWs who deserve no traffic or in 30 minute Youtube video rant form and then I realized that I just don't really care.
Too bad, Sandman was the only comic series I ever read more than one issue of, and I read all of them. Oh well. He's not the first and won't be last "like the work, dislike the person" writer or artist, I guess.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 11:22 AM (cY3LT)
I don't remember either. I went to go look it up, but all the results are either from SJWs who deserve no traffic or in 30 minute Youtube video rant form and then I realized that I just don't really care.
Too bad, Sandman was the only comic series I ever read more than one issue of, and I read all of them. Oh well. He's not the first and won't be last "like the work, dislike the person" writer or artist, I guess.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 30, 2019 11:37 AM (t+qrx)
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Burt: Nothing ages faster than "topical" fiction.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 30, 2019 10:49 AM (OHblf)
Yeah, I guess I hadn't thought of that, but it's pretty awful reading while it's current as well. It is for me, at least.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 10:58 AM (cY3LT)
Just think of all the acclaimed venomous fiction written about Nixon.
Hell, it was practically it's own industry. And all of it pretty lousy.
How many of those are read or even thought about today?
I got snared by the hype back in the day for-
"A Public Burning" by Robert(?) Coover.
Holy Cow, if you hate America and you really hate Nixon, buddy, this is the book for xou.
The story is a "satirical fantasy" centered around the Rosenberg's being publicly executed by electrocution administered by if I'm remembering correctly Richard Nixon.
The ending featured Nixon graphically raped by Uncle Sam.
So-o-o-o-o-o, yeah.
I think it must've sold well enough due to all the log rolling cuz for years and years you couldn't go into a Half-Price Books without seeing a rack of ten or so unread copies.
Anyway, if the mission was to report Coover due to his Leftard Hatred of All Things American and Eeeeevil Richard Nixon by Our Betters,
then mission accomplished.
But, as a read today? Uh, no thanks.
A lousy read with even less relevance than it had years ago.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 30, 2019 10:49 AM (OHblf)
Yeah, I guess I hadn't thought of that, but it's pretty awful reading while it's current as well. It is for me, at least.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 10:58 AM (cY3LT)
Just think of all the acclaimed venomous fiction written about Nixon.
Hell, it was practically it's own industry. And all of it pretty lousy.
How many of those are read or even thought about today?
I got snared by the hype back in the day for-
"A Public Burning" by Robert(?) Coover.
Holy Cow, if you hate America and you really hate Nixon, buddy, this is the book for xou.
The story is a "satirical fantasy" centered around the Rosenberg's being publicly executed by electrocution administered by if I'm remembering correctly Richard Nixon.
The ending featured Nixon graphically raped by Uncle Sam.
So-o-o-o-o-o, yeah.
I think it must've sold well enough due to all the log rolling cuz for years and years you couldn't go into a Half-Price Books without seeing a rack of ten or so unread copies.
Anyway, if the mission was to report Coover due to his Leftard Hatred of All Things American and Eeeeevil Richard Nixon by Our Betters,
then mission accomplished.
But, as a read today? Uh, no thanks.
A lousy read with even less relevance than it had years ago.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 30, 2019 11:37 AM (Uu+qG)
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281 When Sadat was assassinated, my friend's Arab language instructor laughed joyfully. "I am so glad he's dead!", she trilled.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 11:22 AM (kQs4Y)
Wow, I had always thought that Sadat was the most reasonable, moderate Arab leader on the world stage and he *genuinely* wanted to make peace with Israel. Or at least could see that a state of perpetual war with Israel was in the best interests of nobody.
Was that why she was glad he was dead?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 11:22 AM (kQs4Y)
Wow, I had always thought that Sadat was the most reasonable, moderate Arab leader on the world stage and he *genuinely* wanted to make peace with Israel. Or at least could see that a state of perpetual war with Israel was in the best interests of nobody.
Was that why she was glad he was dead?
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at June 30, 2019 11:38 AM (JVrQi)
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> There was a cute story a week or so ago, apparently some folks who
object to the way the story presents God and all that, they were calling
for a boycott of Netflix.
The thing is that the show does NOT present God as fallible. It shows angels making mistakes about what God wants, but angels are fallible beings. Lucifer himself was supposedly the head honcho angel, and look what happened to him.
object to the way the story presents God and all that, they were calling
for a boycott of Netflix.
The thing is that the show does NOT present God as fallible. It shows angels making mistakes about what God wants, but angels are fallible beings. Lucifer himself was supposedly the head honcho angel, and look what happened to him.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 11:38 AM (JUUk1)
Posted by: naturalfake at June 30, 2019 11:39 AM (Uu+qG)
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I like today's word. John used to joke that a shopped by touch. I'm sure
I've used the "We look with our eyes, not our hands." line with my
kids, but it isn't really true for me.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 30, 2019 09:02 AM (uquGJ)
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=I taught my kids and grandkids that we (they of course, not me) "Touch with our eyes, not our hands"
Posted by: Three and One at June 30, 2019 11:26 AM (2tvJ1)
I don't understand those words together like that.
I've used the "We look with our eyes, not our hands." line with my
kids, but it isn't really true for me.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 30, 2019 09:02 AM (uquGJ)
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=I taught my kids and grandkids that we (they of course, not me) "Touch with our eyes, not our hands"
Posted by: Three and One at June 30, 2019 11:26 AM (2tvJ1)
I don't understand those words together like that.
Posted by: Slo Jo B. at June 30, 2019 11:39 AM (cY3LT)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 30, 2019 11:40 AM (Gpsf1)
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Was that why she was glad he was dead?
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at June 30, 2019 11:38 AM (JVrQi)
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Yep. He was willing to reach an accord with the filthy Jews.
Lots of ethnic infighting in the teacher's lounges of my "A" school, I'm sure.
Was that why she was glad he was dead?
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at June 30, 2019 11:38 AM (JVrQi)
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Yep. He was willing to reach an accord with the filthy Jews.
Lots of ethnic infighting in the teacher's lounges of my "A" school, I'm sure.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 11:41 AM (kQs4Y)
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> I see that one of the "12 year old drag queen" moms, who lets her son
put on makeup and gyrate on stage in gay bars, is now upset that pedos
are trying to contact him. Just what the fuck did you expect, you crazy bitch?
I mean, I don't even understand how this is legal. I'm pretty sure that if someone dressed up their 12 year old daughter in glitter and a g-string and put her on the pole in a (heterosexual) strip bar, that person would be going to jail in short order.
put on makeup and gyrate on stage in gay bars, is now upset that pedos
are trying to contact him. Just what the fuck did you expect, you crazy bitch?
I mean, I don't even understand how this is legal. I'm pretty sure that if someone dressed up their 12 year old daughter in glitter and a g-string and put her on the pole in a (heterosexual) strip bar, that person would be going to jail in short order.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 11:41 AM (JUUk1)
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Another good series for kids is the Rick Brant Electronic (later Science) Adventures. Sort of like the Hardy Boys, but better.
Posted by: Charles the Simple at June 30, 2019 11:41 AM (w7U7L)
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There was a cute story a week or so ago, apparently some folks who object to the way the story presents God and all that, they were calling for a boycott of Netflix.
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The thing is that the show does NOT present God as fallible. It shows angels making mistakes about what God wants, but angels are fallible beings. Lucifer himself was supposedly the head honcho angel, and look what happened to him.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 11:38 AM (JUUk1)
Yes, and Frances McDormand is the "voice of God."
One of the characters, the angel I believe, asks the question, that yes, this is all the "master plan," but is it really God's plan?
A fine distinction.
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The thing is that the show does NOT present God as fallible. It shows angels making mistakes about what God wants, but angels are fallible beings. Lucifer himself was supposedly the head honcho angel, and look what happened to him.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 11:38 AM (JUUk1)
Yes, and Frances McDormand is the "voice of God."
One of the characters, the angel I believe, asks the question, that yes, this is all the "master plan," but is it really God's plan?
A fine distinction.
Posted by: Slo Jo B. at June 30, 2019 11:42 AM (cY3LT)
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I see that one of the "12 year old drag queen" moms, who lets her son put on makeup and gyrate on stage in gay bars, is now upset that pedos are trying to contact him.
Just what the fuck did you expect, you crazy bitch?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 11:32 AM (JUUk1)
"Progressivism makes you stupid."
Just what the fuck did you expect, you crazy bitch?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 11:32 AM (JUUk1)
"Progressivism makes you stupid."
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at June 30, 2019 11:42 AM (JVrQi)
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Burt: Nothing ages faster than "topical" fiction.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 30, 2019 10:49 AM
case in point: Tom Clancy
no one under the age of 30-ish understands the Cold War backdrop
Douglas Adams is another one. The "Hitchhiker" series has a lot of (what was then current) "political" jokes / commentary about Reagan & Thatcher
Burt: Nothing ages faster than "topical" fiction.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 30, 2019 10:49 AM
case in point: Tom Clancy
no one under the age of 30-ish understands the Cold War backdrop
Douglas Adams is another one. The "Hitchhiker" series has a lot of (what was then current) "political" jokes / commentary about Reagan & Thatcher
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 30, 2019 11:44 AM (KCxzN)
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HC tool link....
Far more useful than the tools in Congress.
Far more useful than the tools in Congress.
Posted by: Horus Hearsay at June 30, 2019 11:44 AM (DB16e)
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I love the illustration of the dog interposing himself between the girl and her book.
With a dog it's "Hey, you still love me, right? We're on for that game of catch later, yeah?"
With a cat it's "Hey, shouldn't you be opening up a can of Fancy Feast?!"
With a dog it's "Hey, you still love me, right? We're on for that game of catch later, yeah?"
With a cat it's "Hey, shouldn't you be opening up a can of Fancy Feast?!"
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 11:45 AM (kQs4Y)
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I see that one of the "12 year old drag queen" moms, who lets her son put on makeup and gyrate on stage in gay bars, is now upset that pedos are trying to contact him.
Just what the fuck did you expect, you crazy bitch?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 11:32 AM (JUUk1)
"Progressivism makes you stupid."
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at June 30, 2019 11:42 AM (JVrQi)
99% certainty when she was roughly the same age, she was molested by at least one, and probably more than one adult male.
Re-enacting her childhood through her son.
Just what the fuck did you expect, you crazy bitch?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 11:32 AM (JUUk1)
"Progressivism makes you stupid."
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at June 30, 2019 11:42 AM (JVrQi)
99% certainty when she was roughly the same age, she was molested by at least one, and probably more than one adult male.
Re-enacting her childhood through her son.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 11:45 AM (cY3LT)
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"27 Read "You Have the Right to Remain Innocent " by Law Professor James Duane. You may have seen his great YouTube video "Don't Talk to the Police".
Prosecutors and police tell their kids "don't talk to police. Just say 'I want a lawyer' and shut up." The book explains with clear examples of why this is wise. Too many cops and prosecutors are unethical.
Posted by: Smilin Jack and I search with DuckDuckGo at June 30, 2019 09:12 AM (Ph4Ht) "
Read that maybe last month, free on the Kindle, and yes, the whole book boils down to that.
Worth remembering for all of us including (or maybe especially) the most law-abiding, in these times when prosecutorial abuse is ubiquitous and politically focused.
Prosecutors and police tell their kids "don't talk to police. Just say 'I want a lawyer' and shut up." The book explains with clear examples of why this is wise. Too many cops and prosecutors are unethical.
Posted by: Smilin Jack and I search with DuckDuckGo at June 30, 2019 09:12 AM (Ph4Ht) "
Read that maybe last month, free on the Kindle, and yes, the whole book boils down to that.
Worth remembering for all of us including (or maybe especially) the most law-abiding, in these times when prosecutorial abuse is ubiquitous and politically focused.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 30, 2019 11:45 AM (I1oSB)
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Love the Amazon/Netflix mixup. People are in such a sweat to be offended, they don't even stop to make sure they're screeching at the correct person.
Posted by: annem at June 30, 2019 11:46 AM (Fm81C)
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Youze guyz!!!
I was trying to find books for a neighbor's little girl. Having all brothers and all sons, I was quite surprised to find the girly book in the collection. Brought back memories.
I was trying to find books for a neighbor's little girl. Having all brothers and all sons, I was quite surprised to find the girly book in the collection. Brought back memories.
Posted by: IrishEi at June 30, 2019 11:46 AM (NtglE)
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The thing is that the show does NOT present God as fallible. It shows angels making mistakes about what God wants, but angels are fallible beings. Lucifer himself was supposedly the head honcho angel, and look what happened to him.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 11:38 AM (JUUk1)
I watched the Good Omens series and I didn't see anything objectionable in it. And I'm a socon Christian.
Yes, I suppose some of the theology was a bit dodgy, but you know what, they were telling a story, so so what? Let the authors tell the story in the way they want to tell it.
So basically, I liked it. I have not read the book.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 11:38 AM (JUUk1)
I watched the Good Omens series and I didn't see anything objectionable in it. And I'm a socon Christian.
Yes, I suppose some of the theology was a bit dodgy, but you know what, they were telling a story, so so what? Let the authors tell the story in the way they want to tell it.
So basically, I liked it. I have not read the book.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at June 30, 2019 11:46 AM (JVrQi)
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295 > I see that one of the "12 year old drag queen" moms, who lets her son
put on makeup and gyrate on stage in gay bars, is now upset that pedos
are trying to contact him. Just what the fuck did you expect, you crazy bitch?
I mean, I don't even understand how this is legal. I'm pretty sure that if someone dressed up their 12 year old daughter in glitter and a g-string and put her on the pole in a (heterosexual) strip bar, that person would be going to jail in short order.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 11:41 AM (JUUk1)
Some animals are more equal than others.
put on makeup and gyrate on stage in gay bars, is now upset that pedos
are trying to contact him. Just what the fuck did you expect, you crazy bitch?
I mean, I don't even understand how this is legal. I'm pretty sure that if someone dressed up their 12 year old daughter in glitter and a g-string and put her on the pole in a (heterosexual) strip bar, that person would be going to jail in short order.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 11:41 AM (JUUk1)
Some animals are more equal than others.
Posted by: rickl at June 30, 2019 11:47 AM (sdi6R)
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Book nerds!
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I see that one of the "12 year old drag queen" moms, who lets her son
put on makeup and gyrate on stage in gay bars, is now upset that pedos
are trying to contact him.
Just what the fuck did you expect, you crazy bitch?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 11:32 AM (JUUk1)
Because in her world 2+2 = shut up bigot!!!! Unfortunately the kid will have to pay the price of her stupidity
put on makeup and gyrate on stage in gay bars, is now upset that pedos
are trying to contact him.
Just what the fuck did you expect, you crazy bitch?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 11:32 AM (JUUk1)
Because in her world 2+2 = shut up bigot!!!! Unfortunately the kid will have to pay the price of her stupidity
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 30, 2019 11:49 AM (VVtZX)
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> Burt: Nothing ages faster than "topical" fiction.
The story has to be really, really good to survive this, to be sure. Gulliver's Travels is one of the few exceptions.
All the strange races in the book were parodies of various political groups in England at the time. The Whigs, in particular, were outraged by the book when it first came out.
The story has to be really, really good to survive this, to be sure. Gulliver's Travels is one of the few exceptions.
All the strange races in the book were parodies of various political groups in England at the time. The Whigs, in particular, were outraged by the book when it first came out.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 11:49 AM (JUUk1)
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no one under the age of 30-ish understands the Cold War backdrop
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 30, 2019 11:44 AM (KCxzN)
that is a reason but not an excuse. Why do Gen X'ers understand there was a WW2? Why were young people in the 1900s aware of the Civil War?
I am sick of Millennials having no clue about history. If you don't know what the Cold War was, sue your teachers and look side eyed at your parents.
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 30, 2019 11:44 AM (KCxzN)
that is a reason but not an excuse. Why do Gen X'ers understand there was a WW2? Why were young people in the 1900s aware of the Civil War?
I am sick of Millennials having no clue about history. If you don't know what the Cold War was, sue your teachers and look side eyed at your parents.
Posted by: Quint at June 30, 2019 11:50 AM (n13/j)
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With a dog it's "Hey, you still love me, right? We're on for that game of catch later, yeah?"
Dog: "I'm sorry you're sad. You're the best. I love you, no matter what."
Cat: "I don't have time for your problems. Where's my dinner?"
With a dog it's "Hey, you still love me, right? We're on for that game of catch later, yeah?"
Dog: "I'm sorry you're sad. You're the best. I love you, no matter what."
Cat: "I don't have time for your problems. Where's my dinner?"
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 30, 2019 11:51 AM (Wx/+I)
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Anyway, if the mission was to report Coover due to his Leftard Hatred of All Things American and Eeeeevil Richard Nixon by Our Betters,
then mission accomplished.
But, as a read today? Uh, no thanks.
A lousy read with even less relevance than it had years ago.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 30, 2019 11:37 AM (Uu+qG)
Wait'll you all get a load of my take on 18th century Great Britain!
Now THAT'S topical!!
then mission accomplished.
But, as a read today? Uh, no thanks.
A lousy read with even less relevance than it had years ago.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 30, 2019 11:37 AM (Uu+qG)
Wait'll you all get a load of my take on 18th century Great Britain!
Now THAT'S topical!!
Posted by: Jon Swift at June 30, 2019 11:53 AM (cY3LT)
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> Prosecutors and police tell their kids "don't talk to police. Just say 'I want a lawyer' and shut up."
The STFU Lawyers on YouTube make this point in an eloquent manner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XeJJtgbm2s
The STFU Lawyers on YouTube make this point in an eloquent manner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XeJJtgbm2s
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 11:53 AM (JUUk1)
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The story has to be really, really good to survive this, to be sure. Gulliver's Travels is one of the few exceptions.
All the strange races in the book were parodies of various political groups in England at the time. The Whigs, in particular, were outraged by the book when it first came out.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 11:49 AM (JUUk1)
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Wait'll you all get a load of my take on 18th century Great Britain!
Now THAT'S topical!!
Posted by: Jon Swift at June 30, 2019 11:53 AM (cY3LT)
Oops!
Yeah.
All the strange races in the book were parodies of various political groups in England at the time. The Whigs, in particular, were outraged by the book when it first came out.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 11:49 AM (JUUk1)
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Wait'll you all get a load of my take on 18th century Great Britain!
Now THAT'S topical!!
Posted by: Jon Swift at June 30, 2019 11:53 AM (cY3LT)
Oops!
Yeah.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 11:54 AM (cY3LT)
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Harris was 6% in their last poll.
Biden is holding.
#New National @MorningConsult Post Debate Poll:
Biden 33%
Sanders 19%
Harris 12%
Warren 12%
Buttigieg 6%
Booker 3%
O'Rourke 2%
Yang 2%
Bullock 1%
Castro 1%
de Blasio 1%
Delaney 1%
Gabbard 1%
Gillibrand 1%
Klobuchar 1%
Biden is holding.
#New National @MorningConsult Post Debate Poll:
Biden 33%
Sanders 19%
Harris 12%
Warren 12%
Buttigieg 6%
Booker 3%
O'Rourke 2%
Yang 2%
Bullock 1%
Castro 1%
de Blasio 1%
Delaney 1%
Gabbard 1%
Gillibrand 1%
Klobuchar 1%
Posted by: HA at June 30, 2019 11:55 AM (MAstk)
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I thought this comment was mandatory for the book thread. Like it was supposed to be made withing the first 10 or so comments.
Kinda like the "yay, the food thread" comment (by the Scoamf) is for the Pet Thread.
Yeah, I slept in this morning plus I'm moving sorta slow because I somehow pulled a muscle in my back pretty badly yesterday and it still hurts like hell.
Saw that Groucho quote on a t-shirt and got a big kick out of it. Here's another one that's book-related, paraphrased:
"I find television very educational. Whenever somebody turns it on, I go the other room and read a book."
Kinda like the "yay, the food thread" comment (by the Scoamf) is for the Pet Thread.
Yeah, I slept in this morning plus I'm moving sorta slow because I somehow pulled a muscle in my back pretty badly yesterday and it still hurts like hell.
Saw that Groucho quote on a t-shirt and got a big kick out of it. Here's another one that's book-related, paraphrased:
"I find television very educational. Whenever somebody turns it on, I go the other room and read a book."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at June 30, 2019 11:55 AM (HaL55)
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Thanks for recommending Flashpoint! Can't wait to get into that book.
Posted by: Corey Booker at June 30, 2019 11:55 AM (juCZO)
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295 > I see that one of the "12 year old drag queen" moms, who lets her son
put on makeup and gyrate on stage in gay bars, is now upset that pedos
are trying to contact him. Just what the fuck did you expect, you crazy bitch?
I mean, I don't even understand how this is legal. I'm pretty sure that if someone dressed up their 12 year old daughter in glitter and a g-string and put her on the pole in a (heterosexual) strip bar, that person would be going to jail in short order.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 11:41 AM (JUUk1)
^This. All of this.
put on makeup and gyrate on stage in gay bars, is now upset that pedos
are trying to contact him. Just what the fuck did you expect, you crazy bitch?
I mean, I don't even understand how this is legal. I'm pretty sure that if someone dressed up their 12 year old daughter in glitter and a g-string and put her on the pole in a (heterosexual) strip bar, that person would be going to jail in short order.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 11:41 AM (JUUk1)
^This. All of this.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 30, 2019 11:56 AM (NWiLs)
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Amazon and Netflix are both lefty organizations so I wonder what the mix up was about. I left both of their streaming services for many reasons but am under no illusion that either will be boycotted successfully. You mine as well boycott ice cream.
Posted by: Quint at June 30, 2019 11:56 AM (n13/j)
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IrishEi, how old is the little girl? If she's younger, the Mercy Watson series by Kate DiCamillo is fantastic. Used to read these simple chapter books to my preschool classes, and they all loved them. And they're great for beginning readers.
Posted by: annem at June 30, 2019 11:57 AM (Fm81C)
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One of the MANY, MANY benefits of the Book Thread is learning about books that are worth reading and, often, re-reading. The Fulton Sheen books and "Micah Clarke" by Doyle are just two of today's example. It does play havoc with my book budget, though.
Thanks to OM for this weekly treat and to all the Horde for their suggestions.
Thanks to OM for this weekly treat and to all the Horde for their suggestions.
Posted by: JTB at June 30, 2019 11:59 AM (bmdz3)
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> #New National @MorningConsult Post Debate Poll:
What, no Williamson? Since any one of these people except MAYBE Biden will be curb-stomped by Trump, why don't they just triple- or quadruple-down on teh cray-cray?
What, no Williamson? Since any one of these people except MAYBE Biden will be curb-stomped by Trump, why don't they just triple- or quadruple-down on teh cray-cray?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 12:00 PM (JUUk1)
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I love the illustration of the dog interposing himself between the girl and her book.
Dog: "I love this part of the book. What do you think of that Clark character?"
Dog: "I love this part of the book. What do you think of that Clark character?"
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at June 30, 2019 12:00 PM (HaL55)
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Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at June 30, 2019 11:23 AM (dKiJG)
By Naomi Somebody-or-Other? I liked the first couple but thought later ones weren't nearly as good.
By Naomi Somebody-or-Other? I liked the first couple but thought later ones weren't nearly as good.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 30, 2019 12:00 PM (phT8I)
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Posted by: Smilin Jack and I search with DuckDuckGo at June 30, 2019 09:12 AM (Ph4Ht) "
Read that maybe last month, free on the Kindle, and yes, the whole book boils down to that.
Worth remembering for all of us including (or maybe especially) the most law-abiding, in these times when prosecutorial abuse is ubiquitous and politically focused.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 30, 2019 11:45 AM (I1oSB)
Given the kind of work I do, I hear way too many stories from people who are on the margins, especially black people, who come by their hatred of the justice system honestly.
There's a great chicken/egg thing going on there, and if people on the outside look at black people like they don't care about law and order, don't care about "doing the right thing," don't care about living well mannered and ordered lives, they're not paying attention.
The system is rigged against almost EVERYBODY who is not connected inside of it.
And I become more and more convinced the political left has purposely destroyed black America. It was their plan from the start.
Read that maybe last month, free on the Kindle, and yes, the whole book boils down to that.
Worth remembering for all of us including (or maybe especially) the most law-abiding, in these times when prosecutorial abuse is ubiquitous and politically focused.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 30, 2019 11:45 AM (I1oSB)
Given the kind of work I do, I hear way too many stories from people who are on the margins, especially black people, who come by their hatred of the justice system honestly.
There's a great chicken/egg thing going on there, and if people on the outside look at black people like they don't care about law and order, don't care about "doing the right thing," don't care about living well mannered and ordered lives, they're not paying attention.
The system is rigged against almost EVERYBODY who is not connected inside of it.
And I become more and more convinced the political left has purposely destroyed black America. It was their plan from the start.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 12:00 PM (cY3LT)
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Thanks, annem. She's nine.
Posted by: IrishEi at June 30, 2019 12:01 PM (NtglE)
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Hell to Pay, by D.B. Giancreco, about finished. Examines the realities around the last year of WWII in terms of prep for finishing Japan via invasion, including Japanese mindset/strategery, and interestingly some detail on the Soviet aspect. Lots and lots of reliance on primary sources, always nice, and some new ground probably even for many WWII buffs [the manpower dilemma/crisis of '45, which led to a doubling of draft calls and other measures that were beginning to risk popular/political backlash, for example].
Posted by: rhomboid at June 30, 2019 12:01 PM (QDnY+)
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#New National @MorningConsult Post Debate Poll:
Biden 33%
Sanders 19%
Harris 12%
Warren 12%
Buttigieg 6%
Booker 3%
O'Rourke 2%
Yang 2%
Bullock 1%
Castro 1%
de Blasio 1%
Delaney 1%
Gabbard 1%
Gillibrand 1%
Klobuchar 1%
Posted by: HA at June 30, 2019 11:55 AM (MAstk)
What about the new age druid? Didn't see use her love power to climb in the polls?
Biden 33%
Sanders 19%
Harris 12%
Warren 12%
Buttigieg 6%
Booker 3%
O'Rourke 2%
Yang 2%
Bullock 1%
Castro 1%
de Blasio 1%
Delaney 1%
Gabbard 1%
Gillibrand 1%
Klobuchar 1%
Posted by: HA at June 30, 2019 11:55 AM (MAstk)
What about the new age druid? Didn't see use her love power to climb in the polls?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 30, 2019 12:01 PM (VVtZX)
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Remember how the Left claimed that throwing mere milkshakes at people was a funny and harmless way to show political disagreement?
Well, exactly as EVERYONE predicted, things escalated quickly and now Antifa is mixing caustic chemicals into the milkshakes they throw at the victims:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/ antifa-conservative-protests-turn-violent-as-demonstrators-throw-milkshakes -of-quick-dry-cement-at-police-and-onlookers
"Some of the demonstrators turned violent, throwing milkshakes said to be mixed with quick-drying cement, raw eggs and pepper spray."
The euphemism "quick-drying cement" disguises what they're really talking about -- the main ingredient in quick-drying cement is Calcium Hydroxide, which is a highly corrosive alkali and can cause chemical burns:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium_hydroxide
Mix that with pepper spray and you[ve got quick the concoction.
And I predict it will only escalate from here to worse chemicals.
Well, exactly as EVERYONE predicted, things escalated quickly and now Antifa is mixing caustic chemicals into the milkshakes they throw at the victims:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/ antifa-conservative-protests-turn-violent-as-demonstrators-throw-milkshakes -of-quick-dry-cement-at-police-and-onlookers
"Some of the demonstrators turned violent, throwing milkshakes said to be mixed with quick-drying cement, raw eggs and pepper spray."
The euphemism "quick-drying cement" disguises what they're really talking about -- the main ingredient in quick-drying cement is Calcium Hydroxide, which is a highly corrosive alkali and can cause chemical burns:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium_hydroxide
Mix that with pepper spray and you[ve got quick the concoction.
And I predict it will only escalate from here to worse chemicals.
Posted by: zombie at June 30, 2019 12:01 PM (oFcdC)
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I am sick of Millennials having no clue about history. If you don't know what the Cold War was, sue your teachers and look side eyed at your parents.
Posted by: Quint at June 30, 2019 11:50 AM
I was at a conference back in January with a lot of millennials in attendance and there was a "relating to different generations" portion. The millennials were griping that we had no idea how tough things were for them, with all the economic uncertainty and the world security situation that they thought we had never had to deal with as young people.
Us old farts began relating things that had happened in our lifetimes: some of which they had heard of like the Kennedy and MLK assassinations (done by evil conservatives, of course), the moon landing, major events of that nature. They had no clue about the Cold War and the Berlin Wall, duck and cover drills at school, or "national malaise", "turn down the thermostat and wear a sweater", and getting gas based on your license plate number, or stop using paper bags and use plastic to save the environment, acid rain, the ozone hole, and the coming ice age that will encase NYC in a glacier in 20 years.
Posted by: Quint at June 30, 2019 11:50 AM
I was at a conference back in January with a lot of millennials in attendance and there was a "relating to different generations" portion. The millennials were griping that we had no idea how tough things were for them, with all the economic uncertainty and the world security situation that they thought we had never had to deal with as young people.
Us old farts began relating things that had happened in our lifetimes: some of which they had heard of like the Kennedy and MLK assassinations (done by evil conservatives, of course), the moon landing, major events of that nature. They had no clue about the Cold War and the Berlin Wall, duck and cover drills at school, or "national malaise", "turn down the thermostat and wear a sweater", and getting gas based on your license plate number, or stop using paper bags and use plastic to save the environment, acid rain, the ozone hole, and the coming ice age that will encase NYC in a glacier in 20 years.
Posted by: Bert G at June 30, 2019 12:02 PM (OMsf+)
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I'm at 2%!
Posted by: Sum Ting Wong at June 30, 2019 12:02 PM (EgshT)
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you[ve got quick the concoction = you've got quite the concoction.
Posted by: zombie at June 30, 2019 12:02 PM (oFcdC)
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I am sick of Millennials having no clue about history. If you don't
know what the Cold War was, sue your teachers and look side eyed at your
parents.
Posted by: Quint at June 30, 2019 11:50 AM
A lot of them don't want to know about it. If it happened before they were born why should they care or everything back then was racist, sexist, homophobic etc. And if they learn about history real histoy it shoots to shit a lot of lies they've been told in schools
I am sick of Millennials having no clue about history. If you don't
know what the Cold War was, sue your teachers and look side eyed at your
parents.
Posted by: Quint at June 30, 2019 11:50 AM
A lot of them don't want to know about it. If it happened before they were born why should they care or everything back then was racist, sexist, homophobic etc. And if they learn about history real histoy it shoots to shit a lot of lies they've been told in schools
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 30, 2019 12:04 PM (VVtZX)
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Wait'll you all get a load of my take on 18th century Great Britain!
Now THAT'S topical!!
Posted by: Jon Swift at June 30, 2019 11:53 AM (cY3LT)
Well, here's the thing about Gulliver's Travels.
You can read it, with zero knowledge of the political satire and still have a great time.
Because it's a great story and Swift was a great writer.
The story touches the human condition in a way that requires no political knowledge.
Same with things like the Satyricon, Vanity Fair, Don Quixote, the plays of Aristophanes, etc, etc.
They survived because the satire was but a part of the overall novel and in some ways a minor part....cuz we don't need it to enjoy it.
'In "A Public Burning"'s case it merely exists to push the "satirical" case for hatred of a fictional America and a fictional Richard Nixon. What a filthy enterprise is America and what a grotesque human being is RMN compared to the earnest angels of Ethyl and Julius Rosenberg.
ITere's some well-written passages but overall it's a messy spew of hatred without a solid story or plot to hold the readers interest.
That's the difference.
Shorter version: Coover is no Swift.
Wait'll you all get a load of my take on 18th century Great Britain!
Now THAT'S topical!!
Posted by: Jon Swift at June 30, 2019 11:53 AM (cY3LT)
Well, here's the thing about Gulliver's Travels.
You can read it, with zero knowledge of the political satire and still have a great time.
Because it's a great story and Swift was a great writer.
The story touches the human condition in a way that requires no political knowledge.
Same with things like the Satyricon, Vanity Fair, Don Quixote, the plays of Aristophanes, etc, etc.
They survived because the satire was but a part of the overall novel and in some ways a minor part....cuz we don't need it to enjoy it.
'In "A Public Burning"'s case it merely exists to push the "satirical" case for hatred of a fictional America and a fictional Richard Nixon. What a filthy enterprise is America and what a grotesque human being is RMN compared to the earnest angels of Ethyl and Julius Rosenberg.
ITere's some well-written passages but overall it's a messy spew of hatred without a solid story or plot to hold the readers interest.
That's the difference.
Shorter version: Coover is no Swift.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 30, 2019 12:04 PM (Uu+qG)
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Antifa should be declared hostis humani generis.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 30, 2019 12:04 PM (NWiLs)
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Stephanie Grisham, the new incoming press secretary got in some sort of little tussle with the NORKs during that Trump-Kim meeting:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7197451
And then, somehow Ivanka and Pompeo were walking together and Trump said they look like Beauty and the Beast:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7197413
Stephanie Grisham, the new incoming press secretary got in some sort of little tussle with the NORKs during that Trump-Kim meeting:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7197451
And then, somehow Ivanka and Pompeo were walking together and Trump said they look like Beauty and the Beast:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7197413
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at June 30, 2019 12:05 PM (f1Vqw)
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#New National @MorningConsult Post Debate Poll:
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What, no Williamson? Since any one of these people except MAYBE Biden will be curb-stomped by Trump, why don't they just triple- or quadruple-down on teh cray-cray?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 12:00 PM (JUUk1)
Yeah, I'm calling b.s. on the poll, not only because she's not there, after making quite a splash this past week, but because... you're telling me you took a poll where 96% selected a candidate? By name?
If this was a poll where you asked PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRAT CANDIDATE, I would expect at least 30% or more will say "I have no idea who's running."
At least 30%. Probably more like 50.
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What, no Williamson? Since any one of these people except MAYBE Biden will be curb-stomped by Trump, why don't they just triple- or quadruple-down on teh cray-cray?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 12:00 PM (JUUk1)
Yeah, I'm calling b.s. on the poll, not only because she's not there, after making quite a splash this past week, but because... you're telling me you took a poll where 96% selected a candidate? By name?
If this was a poll where you asked PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRAT CANDIDATE, I would expect at least 30% or more will say "I have no idea who's running."
At least 30%. Probably more like 50.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 12:06 PM (cY3LT)
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At some point we're going to have to do a forced decommunization of Today's Youth, much as we had to do denazification after WWII.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 12:06 PM (JUUk1)
Posted by: BignJames at June 30, 2019 12:07 PM (ykq7q)
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What about the new age druid? Didn't see use her love power to climb in the polls?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 30, 2019 12:01 PM
Swallwell nuked her love power after she wouldn't turn it in to him.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 30, 2019 12:01 PM
Swallwell nuked her love power after she wouldn't turn it in to him.
Posted by: Bert G at June 30, 2019 12:07 PM (OMsf+)
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Still reading the "I rode with JEB Stuart" book on the Kindle, in hardcopy I am re-reading "Riddely Walker" by Russell Hoban, a strange book and hard to describe. Post-nuclear England 2000 years later. I have a special love for books written in their own language, Clockwork Orange is an easy example, and that by itself sets this book apart. W
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 30, 2019 12:09 PM (I1oSB)
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Newly published book I loved:
"Say Nothing: A True Story of Murder and Memory in Northern Ireland," by Patrick Keefe.
Anybody else read it? Horrifying & brilliant, & an EXCELLENT primer on The Troubles.
"Say Nothing: A True Story of Murder and Memory in Northern Ireland," by Patrick Keefe.
Anybody else read it? Horrifying & brilliant, & an EXCELLENT primer on The Troubles.
Posted by: mnw at June 30, 2019 12:10 PM (Cssks)
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Swallwell nuked her love power after she wouldn't turn it in to him.
Posted by: Bert G at June 30, 2019 12:07 PM (OMsf+)
Sometimes you get to the point where you believe jokes instead of laughing at them.
Posted by: Bert G at June 30, 2019 12:07 PM (OMsf+)
Sometimes you get to the point where you believe jokes instead of laughing at them.
Posted by: BignJames at June 30, 2019 12:10 PM (ykq7q)
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'In "A Public Burning"'s case it merely exists to push the "satirical" case for hatred of a fictional America and a fictional Richard Nixon. What a filthy enterprise is America and what a grotesque human being is RMN compared to the earnest angels of Ethyl and Julius Rosenberg.
ITere's some well-written passages but overall it's a messy spew of hatred without a solid story or plot to hold the readers interest.
That's the difference.
Shorter version: Coover is no Swift.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 30, 2019 12:04 PM (Uu+qG)
Yes, and you made me think of the short story, "The Lottery."
I'm not sure the point of it, I'm sure it was political, but it's a well written story. It has essentially no basis in reality, but I'm assuming it was allegory for small mindedness in small town America.
ITere's some well-written passages but overall it's a messy spew of hatred without a solid story or plot to hold the readers interest.
That's the difference.
Shorter version: Coover is no Swift.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 30, 2019 12:04 PM (Uu+qG)
Yes, and you made me think of the short story, "The Lottery."
I'm not sure the point of it, I'm sure it was political, but it's a well written story. It has essentially no basis in reality, but I'm assuming it was allegory for small mindedness in small town America.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 12:10 PM (cY3LT)
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I got sucked into that Tool Time vortex. Why do I love old and (un)busted so much?
My mom still has Dad's old tools. They just don't make 'em like that any more. Shovels these days bend like clay, but the old dependables can brain, chop, and dig with nary a scratch!
And don't get me started on screwdrivers. Like soft lead!
Even his WWII entrenching tool is still holding up.
My mom still has Dad's old tools. They just don't make 'em like that any more. Shovels these days bend like clay, but the old dependables can brain, chop, and dig with nary a scratch!
And don't get me started on screwdrivers. Like soft lead!
Even his WWII entrenching tool is still holding up.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 12:11 PM (kQs4Y)
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I wish I had a gif of the Rosenbergs being electrocuted. I'd troll the fuck out of the libs with it.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 30, 2019 12:11 PM (y7DUB)
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Obama was openly hostile to America. But the Clintons and Bushes never viewed this place as anything more than a source of power and wealth for their dynastic political machines. They didn't love this country - they felt they owned it.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 30, 2019 12:13 PM (5aX2M)
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I am sick of Millennials having no clue about history. If you don't know what the Cold War was, sue your teachers and look side eyed at your parents.
Posted by: Quint at June 30, 2019 11:50 AM
A lot of them don't want to know about it. If it happened before they were born why should they care or everything back then was racist, sexist, homophobic etc. And if they learn about history real histoy it shoots to shit a lot of lies they've been told in schools
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 30, 2019 12:04 PM (VVtZX)
Yes, and much as they have done to turn black America against the justice system, they have succeeded in de-educating America's middle class youth.
Not re-educate. De-educate.
On purpose.
Posted by: Quint at June 30, 2019 11:50 AM
A lot of them don't want to know about it. If it happened before they were born why should they care or everything back then was racist, sexist, homophobic etc. And if they learn about history real histoy it shoots to shit a lot of lies they've been told in schools
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 30, 2019 12:04 PM (VVtZX)
Yes, and much as they have done to turn black America against the justice system, they have succeeded in de-educating America's middle class youth.
Not re-educate. De-educate.
On purpose.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 12:13 PM (cY3LT)
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Michigan vampires.
I hate Michigan vampires.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor
It's really just the UAW.
I hate Michigan vampires.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor
It's really just the UAW.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at June 30, 2019 12:14 PM (S6Pax)
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I just finished They Tell No Tales by Manning Coles, a 1941 British spy thriller set in 1938, and it is the third Tommy Hambledon book in the series.
British navy ships being retro-fitted with new hush-hush gear in Portsmouth are blowing up at sea, and Military Intelligence was asked to look in on it since the Navy was not finding any answers.
Tommy Hambledon, having returned to England from his overlong stay in Germany as a British spy in Germany during WWI and his rather confused experiences afterwards, is asked to go to Portsmouth, along with his current partner Bellair and his long time friend and batman, Alfred Reck, to find the saboteurs.
while Hambledon re-accustoms himself with British things like closing hours and no Sunday trains to Scotland, they poke and nose and search to find who is blowing up ships and their valuable technical crews who are so important to the drive to re-arm in the face of the looming German threat.
They find murder of witnesses on the street, a gold digging governess, twins who work at a music hall, a cabal that seems to include a hairdresser, a stage magician, and a car rental garage, and a dead informant who appears to have exploded after his death.
In the end the saboteurs are found, and the threat extinguished.
The first two spy novels, A Drink to Yesterday and A Toast to Tomorrow, are pretty gritty, in that they are all sort of cheerful and breezy right up until someone gets a steel knitting needle in the ear or gets captured and shot, and the discussion of the collapse and mutinies in Germany in the wake of WWI and surviving in the floundering of the Weimar republic is pretty grim, spiked with absolute ridiculous moments.
This third story is more of a "Cozy" book, and I am sure that it would have been comforting for people under rationing, curfews, blackouts and being bombed to be able to read about the halcyon days of 1938 where you could worry about closing hours, and be able to buy a new car when yours was destroyed by assassins driving it into a paint store and setting on fire to get rid of pursuit.
It does name two cars that are incredibly apt, the Beverley Barnes Saloon, and the Triumph Dolomite, both of which look like cars British spies should drive.
Manning Coles was actually Adelaide Frances Oke Manning and Cyril Henry Coles, who were neighbors.
Adelaide had worked in the War Office during WWI, and Cyril had worked for British Intelligence in both WWI and II.
At least the first couple of books, and possibly the later ones were based on Coles' experiences, which included working behind German lines as a spy during WWI.
British navy ships being retro-fitted with new hush-hush gear in Portsmouth are blowing up at sea, and Military Intelligence was asked to look in on it since the Navy was not finding any answers.
Tommy Hambledon, having returned to England from his overlong stay in Germany as a British spy in Germany during WWI and his rather confused experiences afterwards, is asked to go to Portsmouth, along with his current partner Bellair and his long time friend and batman, Alfred Reck, to find the saboteurs.
while Hambledon re-accustoms himself with British things like closing hours and no Sunday trains to Scotland, they poke and nose and search to find who is blowing up ships and their valuable technical crews who are so important to the drive to re-arm in the face of the looming German threat.
They find murder of witnesses on the street, a gold digging governess, twins who work at a music hall, a cabal that seems to include a hairdresser, a stage magician, and a car rental garage, and a dead informant who appears to have exploded after his death.
In the end the saboteurs are found, and the threat extinguished.
The first two spy novels, A Drink to Yesterday and A Toast to Tomorrow, are pretty gritty, in that they are all sort of cheerful and breezy right up until someone gets a steel knitting needle in the ear or gets captured and shot, and the discussion of the collapse and mutinies in Germany in the wake of WWI and surviving in the floundering of the Weimar republic is pretty grim, spiked with absolute ridiculous moments.
This third story is more of a "Cozy" book, and I am sure that it would have been comforting for people under rationing, curfews, blackouts and being bombed to be able to read about the halcyon days of 1938 where you could worry about closing hours, and be able to buy a new car when yours was destroyed by assassins driving it into a paint store and setting on fire to get rid of pursuit.
It does name two cars that are incredibly apt, the Beverley Barnes Saloon, and the Triumph Dolomite, both of which look like cars British spies should drive.
Manning Coles was actually Adelaide Frances Oke Manning and Cyril Henry Coles, who were neighbors.
Adelaide had worked in the War Office during WWI, and Cyril had worked for British Intelligence in both WWI and II.
At least the first couple of books, and possibly the later ones were based on Coles' experiences, which included working behind German lines as a spy during WWI.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 30, 2019 12:14 PM (hSQmw)
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Obama was openly hostile to America. But the Clintons and Bushes never viewed this place as anything more than a source of power and wealth for their dynastic political machines. They didn't love this country - they felt they owned it.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 30, 2019 12:13 PM (5aX2M)
Helloooo!
Where's my cut?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 30, 2019 12:13 PM (5aX2M)
Helloooo!
Where's my cut?
Posted by: Mittens at June 30, 2019 12:14 PM (cY3LT)
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"347 I got sucked into that Tool Time vortex. Why do I love old and (un)busted so much?
My mom still has Dad's old tools. They just don't make 'em like that any more. Shovels these days bend like clay, but the old dependables can brain, chop, and dig with nary a scratch!
And don't get me started on screwdrivers. Like soft lead!
Even his WWII entrenching tool is still holding up.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 12:11 PM (kQs4Y) "
Yeah, I just saved that one for later ... I still pick up old tools like that once in a while, that have not yet been worn out and yes, are
My mom still has Dad's old tools. They just don't make 'em like that any more. Shovels these days bend like clay, but the old dependables can brain, chop, and dig with nary a scratch!
And don't get me started on screwdrivers. Like soft lead!
Even his WWII entrenching tool is still holding up.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 12:11 PM (kQs4Y) "
Yeah, I just saved that one for later ... I still pick up old tools like that once in a while, that have not yet been worn out and yes, are
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 30, 2019 12:15 PM (I1oSB)
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OM- thanks for the unexpected (and unsolicited) mention of To Save Us All From Ruin. I wrote it as a tribute to my dad, not to make money. Half of my six brothers "got" it, the other half were either puzzled or offended for whatever reason. C'est la vie!
I'm glad it triggered some positive things for others, as mentioned in the comments. I appreciate the kind words.
P.S. - a lady came up to me and my wife yesterday and said, "You're the one who wrote that book*, right? We thought you had died a couple years back."
*(she was referring to The Curious Disappearance of Seamus Muldoon)
I'm glad it triggered some positive things for others, as mentioned in the comments. I appreciate the kind words.
P.S. - a lady came up to me and my wife yesterday and said, "You're the one who wrote that book*, right? We thought you had died a couple years back."
*(she was referring to The Curious Disappearance of Seamus Muldoon)
Posted by: Muldoon at June 30, 2019 12:15 PM (mvenn)
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I have lived my whole life among the so-called "Baby Boomers." I do not believe in judging people by what generation they were born to -- in fact, if you think about it, which you don't of course since it's basically a way to avoid having to think a lot, it's the guy who gets to write the smart-ass, cutesy articles that define when each "generation" begins and ends who really has all the power you're handing out.
But based on a lifetime of experience, if anybody born between 1945 and 1965 is mocking these "millennials" for being unaware, unthinking, poorly read, uncaring about historical realities? Kiss my ass. You are the most deliberately dumb fucks in the history of the world, and you know it, too.
You KNOW it.
And you still can't stop.
But based on a lifetime of experience, if anybody born between 1945 and 1965 is mocking these "millennials" for being unaware, unthinking, poorly read, uncaring about historical realities? Kiss my ass. You are the most deliberately dumb fucks in the history of the world, and you know it, too.
You KNOW it.
And you still can't stop.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 30, 2019 12:16 PM (8ZmvG)
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The Dawn of Wonder
I enjoyed this book and for those who like audiobooks this book is over 24 hours long. It has slavers, adventure. A mysterious old Fortress from a long dead kingdom. The book really picks up in the second half Then the book has maybe a Christian elements at the very end which surprised me, it has a lot of a boy learning his trade and skills (going to school).
Still enjoying the SPELLMONGER series. No SJW crap as of yet and the writer is up to book 10, it's light but does have its moments of darkness and political intrigue.
I enjoyed this book and for those who like audiobooks this book is over 24 hours long. It has slavers, adventure. A mysterious old Fortress from a long dead kingdom. The book really picks up in the second half Then the book has maybe a Christian elements at the very end which surprised me, it has a lot of a boy learning his trade and skills (going to school).
Still enjoying the SPELLMONGER series. No SJW crap as of yet and the writer is up to book 10, it's light but does have its moments of darkness and political intrigue.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at June 30, 2019 12:16 PM (dKiJG)
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... and yes, are so well made that they surpass modern just-good-enough stuff.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 30, 2019 12:16 PM (I1oSB)
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28 Last week we were asked for recommendations for books for children. I would suggest the "Green Knowe" books by L. M. Boston. These books are set in an ancient English country house by a river. They involve the adventures of various children visiting Green Knowe. They are fantastical, whimsical and sometimes quite scary. I read them with pleasure for the first time when I was 10 years old and I still read them today when I am in my 60s.
Posted by: John F. MacMichael
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You'll be glad to hear they're in the age 8-10 and 10-12 lists!
I read those as a child and then re-read them as my children got old enough to read them together.
I was delighted to learn that the house is real and the author lived in it!
Posted by: John F. MacMichael
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You'll be glad to hear they're in the age 8-10 and 10-12 lists!
I read those as a child and then re-read them as my children got old enough to read them together.
I was delighted to learn that the house is real and the author lived in it!
Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at June 30, 2019 12:19 PM (wOtmc)
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and the coming ice age that will encase NYC in a glacier in 20 years.
Posted by: Bert G at June 30, 2019 12:02 PM (OMsf+)
that next Ice Age thing got memory holed super fast. And now they don't even have to try to cover things up, if you didn't take a pic and post it on fakebook, it never happened.
Posted by: Bert G at June 30, 2019 12:02 PM (OMsf+)
that next Ice Age thing got memory holed super fast. And now they don't even have to try to cover things up, if you didn't take a pic and post it on fakebook, it never happened.
Posted by: Quint at June 30, 2019 12:19 PM (n13/j)
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nood !
hurry, you might get #1 !
hurry, you might get #1 !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 30, 2019 12:19 PM (I1oSB)
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But based on a lifetime of experience, if anybody born between 1945 and 1965 is mocking these "millennials" for being unaware, unthinking, poorly read, uncaring about historical realities? Kiss my ass. You are the most deliberately dumb fucks in the history of the world, and you know it, too.
You KNOW it.
And you still can't stop.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 30, 2019 12:16 PM (8ZmvG)
I've been waiting for someone else to articulately rant on this. Well done and for anyone offended by this, suck my balls.
You KNOW it.
And you still can't stop.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 30, 2019 12:16 PM (8ZmvG)
I've been waiting for someone else to articulately rant on this. Well done and for anyone offended by this, suck my balls.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 30, 2019 12:19 PM (y7DUB)
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am sick of Millennials having no clue about history. If you don't know what the Cold War was, sue your teachers and look side eyed at your parents.
I watched COMRADE DETECTIVE on Amazon Prime and I had to explain to my young Nephew why people would smuggle Blue Jeans and Pop Music into a country. It's a very funny show, lots of sarcasm about how great Communism is.
I watched COMRADE DETECTIVE on Amazon Prime and I had to explain to my young Nephew why people would smuggle Blue Jeans and Pop Music into a country. It's a very funny show, lots of sarcasm about how great Communism is.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at June 30, 2019 12:20 PM (dKiJG)
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When Sadat was assassinated, my friend's Arab language instructor laughed joyfully. "I am so glad he's dead!", she trilled.
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My mother's know-it-all neighbor mourned Sadat's assassination saying he was a good Christian man.
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My mother's know-it-all neighbor mourned Sadat's assassination saying he was a good Christian man.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 30, 2019 12:21 PM (+y/Ru)
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Michigan vampires.
I hate Michigan vampires.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor
It's really just the UAW.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at June 30, 2019 12:14 PM (S6Pax)
Truly, the best education I received about the insidiousness of the unions, especially the auto unions, was the series of Associated Press annuals, starting in 1964, ending in 1977.
Find them if you can, search by the name "The World in (fill in the year)," or "History As We Lived It."
Great reads, and the routine with which they recount the tactics of unions, the threats, the demands, the strikes, all bending Big Business to their will... it's fascinating to read about it as it's happening, knowing how business has been destroyed by the greed of Big Labor.
I hate Michigan vampires.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor
It's really just the UAW.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at June 30, 2019 12:14 PM (S6Pax)
Truly, the best education I received about the insidiousness of the unions, especially the auto unions, was the series of Associated Press annuals, starting in 1964, ending in 1977.
Find them if you can, search by the name "The World in (fill in the year)," or "History As We Lived It."
Great reads, and the routine with which they recount the tactics of unions, the threats, the demands, the strikes, all bending Big Business to their will... it's fascinating to read about it as it's happening, knowing how business has been destroyed by the greed of Big Labor.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 12:23 PM (cY3LT)
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rhennigantx, I believe that Matt Bracken's Twitter page has been permanently removed. His fiction must be too close to reality!
rhennigantx, I believe that Matt Bracken's Twitter page has been permanently removed. His fiction must be too close to reality!
Posted by: squeakywheel at June 30, 2019 12:23 PM (4AWLR)
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I have lived my whole life among the so-called "Baby Boomers." I do not believe in judging people by what generation they were born to.
You are the most deliberately dumb fucks in the history of the world, and you know it, too.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 30, 2019 12:16 PM (8ZmvG)
It's 2!, 2! posts in one!
You are the most deliberately dumb fucks in the history of the world, and you know it, too.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 30, 2019 12:16 PM (8ZmvG)
It's 2!, 2! posts in one!
Posted by: BignJames at June 30, 2019 12:23 PM (ykq7q)
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I watched COMRADE DETECTIVE on Amazon Prime and I
had to explain to my young Nephew why people would smuggle Blue Jeans
and Pop Music into a country. It's a very funny show, lots of sarcasm
about how great Communism is.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at June 30, 2019 12:20 PM (dKiJG)
Intresting, I haven't heard of that show. I do recall Americans who visited the USSR in the 80s getting caught up in KGB stings where they were enticed to sell their blue jeans. The result was usually a lot of time wasted and a shake down.
had to explain to my young Nephew why people would smuggle Blue Jeans
and Pop Music into a country. It's a very funny show, lots of sarcasm
about how great Communism is.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at June 30, 2019 12:20 PM (dKiJG)
Intresting, I haven't heard of that show. I do recall Americans who visited the USSR in the 80s getting caught up in KGB stings where they were enticed to sell their blue jeans. The result was usually a lot of time wasted and a shake down.
Posted by: Quint at June 30, 2019 12:27 PM (n13/j)
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356
But based on a lifetime of experience, if anybody born between 1945 and 1965 is mocking these "millennials" for being unaware, unthinking, poorly read, uncaring about historical realities? Kiss my ass. You are the most deliberately dumb fucks in the history of the world, and you know it, too.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 30, 2019 12:16 PM (8ZmvG)
I'm a Boomer and I endorse this message. No generation has a monopoly on heroism, wisdom, cowardice, or stupidity. You'd think that would be more widely known than it is.
I remember there used to be a quote attributed to someone in ancient Greece moaning about "these kids today". Someone ought to find it and dust it off.
But based on a lifetime of experience, if anybody born between 1945 and 1965 is mocking these "millennials" for being unaware, unthinking, poorly read, uncaring about historical realities? Kiss my ass. You are the most deliberately dumb fucks in the history of the world, and you know it, too.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 30, 2019 12:16 PM (8ZmvG)
I'm a Boomer and I endorse this message. No generation has a monopoly on heroism, wisdom, cowardice, or stupidity. You'd think that would be more widely known than it is.
I remember there used to be a quote attributed to someone in ancient Greece moaning about "these kids today". Someone ought to find it and dust it off.
Posted by: rickl at June 30, 2019 12:29 PM (sdi6R)
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The Amazon Job is a great read. Looking forward to the next adventure.
Posted by: RG at June 30, 2019 12:29 PM (qSnW8)
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Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 30, 2019 12:16 PM (8ZmvG)
It's 2!, 2! posts in one!
Posted by: BignJames at June 30, 2019 12:23 PM (ykq7q)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLZubB22edw
It's 2!, 2! posts in one!
Posted by: BignJames at June 30, 2019 12:23 PM (ykq7q)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLZubB22edw
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 12:29 PM (cY3LT)
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Thanks Hank!
also when my kids were young, they loved those magic treehouse books, a tricky way to learn history.
also when my kids were young, they loved those magic treehouse books, a tricky way to learn history.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 30, 2019 12:30 PM (r+sAi)
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I'm a Boomer and I endorse this message. No generation has a monopoly on heroism, wisdom, cowardice, or stupidity. You'd think that would be more widely known than it is.
I remember there used to be a quote attributed to someone in ancient Greece moaning about "these kids today". Someone ought to find it and dust it off.
Posted by: rickl at June 30, 2019 12:29 PM (sdi6R)
The problem with this logic is, there really really are times in history when collective ignorance contributes to astonishing levels of evil and woe.
It's happened time and time again.
Baby boomers would do well to recognize, their generation IS filled will ignorance and gullibility to the point of causing untold misery.
And now they've bred and perpetuated their ignorance onto a whole new generation.
One is not a counter-argument against the other. It's a complimentary statement of just how dangerous it is to allow a whole generation of ignorance to fester, unchallenged.
What follow is death and destruction.
Some of you boomers might not live to see it.
Lucky you.
I remember there used to be a quote attributed to someone in ancient Greece moaning about "these kids today". Someone ought to find it and dust it off.
Posted by: rickl at June 30, 2019 12:29 PM (sdi6R)
The problem with this logic is, there really really are times in history when collective ignorance contributes to astonishing levels of evil and woe.
It's happened time and time again.
Baby boomers would do well to recognize, their generation IS filled will ignorance and gullibility to the point of causing untold misery.
And now they've bred and perpetuated their ignorance onto a whole new generation.
One is not a counter-argument against the other. It's a complimentary statement of just how dangerous it is to allow a whole generation of ignorance to fester, unchallenged.
What follow is death and destruction.
Some of you boomers might not live to see it.
Lucky you.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2019 12:33 PM (cY3LT)
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Antifa should be declared hostis humani generis.
Posted by: Insomniac
I prefer the term Homo Sacer, which is essentually the same thing.
Because then we can openly call AntiFa "Homos".
Posted by: Insomniac
I prefer the term Homo Sacer, which is essentually the same thing.
Because then we can openly call AntiFa "Homos".
Posted by: Sharkman at June 30, 2019 12:36 PM (N1kno)
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I'm a Boomer and I endorse this message. No
generation has a monopoly on heroism, wisdom, cowardice, or stupidity.
You'd think that would be more widely known than it is.
I remember there used to be a quote attributed to someone in ancient
Greece moaning about "these kids today". Someone ought to find it and
dust it off.
Posted by: rickl at June 30, 2019 12:29 PM (sdi6R)
You are right you can't judge a generation. But we can see polls and other evidence that a lot of people know little about their nation's history. That can't be a good thing imo. The general populace, not individuals, has moved so far left in the last decade or so I bet many of their thought leaders are even a bit surprised by it.
Your are right about the "these kids today" thing. And I said those who don't know history should wonder about the previous generation that was supposed to teach them.
generation has a monopoly on heroism, wisdom, cowardice, or stupidity.
You'd think that would be more widely known than it is.
I remember there used to be a quote attributed to someone in ancient
Greece moaning about "these kids today". Someone ought to find it and
dust it off.
Posted by: rickl at June 30, 2019 12:29 PM (sdi6R)
You are right you can't judge a generation. But we can see polls and other evidence that a lot of people know little about their nation's history. That can't be a good thing imo. The general populace, not individuals, has moved so far left in the last decade or so I bet many of their thought leaders are even a bit surprised by it.
Your are right about the "these kids today" thing. And I said those who don't know history should wonder about the previous generation that was supposed to teach them.
Posted by: Quint at June 30, 2019 12:37 PM (n13/j)
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But based on a lifetime of experience, if anybody born between 1945 and 1965 is mocking these "millennials" for being unaware, unthinking, poorly read, uncaring about historical realities? Kiss my ass. You are the most deliberately dumb fucks in the history of the world, and you know it, too.
You KNOW it.
And you still can't stop.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 30, 2019 12:16 PM (8ZmvG)
There is a component to this that isn't their fault. The millennials have been deliberately *mis*-educated by progressives for many years now.
It takes a remarkable sort of person to realize this, to think hey, they've been lying to me all these years, and much more to actually do something about it.
You KNOW it.
And you still can't stop.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 30, 2019 12:16 PM (8ZmvG)
There is a component to this that isn't their fault. The millennials have been deliberately *mis*-educated by progressives for many years now.
It takes a remarkable sort of person to realize this, to think hey, they've been lying to me all these years, and much more to actually do something about it.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at June 30, 2019 12:40 PM (JVrQi)
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188: Not the deSalegui book is it?
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2019 12:47 PM (U7k5w)
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41 If you can't tell, I've been spend much of the week reading articles on First Things and the new Human Events. Also American Greatness.
I'm writing about this because literally no one gives a crap about my slog through Gibbon.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd
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I give a crap! Great Courses has a fabulous course on his Decline and Fall that I've been going through on their Amazon Prime channel.
Gibbon was a great writer.
I'm writing about this because literally no one gives a crap about my slog through Gibbon.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd
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I give a crap! Great Courses has a fabulous course on his Decline and Fall that I've been going through on their Amazon Prime channel.
Gibbon was a great writer.
Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at June 30, 2019 12:48 PM (wOtmc)
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There is a component to this that isn't their fault. The millennials have been deliberately *mis*-educated by progressives for many years now.
It takes a remarkable sort of person to realize this, to think hey, they've been lying to me all these years, and much more to actually do something about it.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at June 30, 2019 12:40 PM (JVrQi)
And they're being lied to by a lot of my generation, the Boomers.
It takes a remarkable sort of person to realize this, to think hey, they've been lying to me all these years, and much more to actually do something about it.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at June 30, 2019 12:40 PM (JVrQi)
And they're being lied to by a lot of my generation, the Boomers.
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2019 12:48 PM (U7k5w)
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Most of the final draft of Good Omens was written by Pratchett, I believe. The plot is paced and arranged different from what Pratchett wrote, but the characters, language, interplay and details are pure Pterry.
If you were concerned about Gaiman's writing.
If you were concerned about Gaiman's writing.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 30, 2019 12:52 PM (hSQmw)
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I read that book, too, and I agree, some of the stories were a bit heavy-handed, But the title of the book was a tip-off as to the nature of the content I'd be reading, so I pretty much expected it.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor
I read the reviews. Aren't those books satire?
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor
I read the reviews. Aren't those books satire?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, some kinda punk at June 30, 2019 12:52 PM (lLeln)
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And they're being lied to by a lot of my generation, the Boomers.
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2019 12:48 PM (U7k5w)
Lots of the ones I know don't believe anything anyone tells them.
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2019 12:48 PM (U7k5w)
Lots of the ones I know don't believe anything anyone tells them.
Posted by: BignJames at June 30, 2019 12:53 PM (ykq7q)
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Style counts for a lot. One reason I can stay with Gibbon is that while he's a pompous, bigoted, ignorant jackass, he can turn a phrase now and then. His description of the rise of early Islam is quite enjoyable as his dry wit returns.
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^This. The man knew how to turn a phrase.
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^This. The man knew how to turn a phrase.
Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at June 30, 2019 12:54 PM (wOtmc)
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I give a crap! Great Courses has a fabulous course
on his Decline and Fall that I've been going through on their Amazon
Prime channel.
Gibbon was a great writer.
Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at June 30, 2019 12:48 PM (wOtmc)
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I'm sure a course about the book could be quite enjoyable. There are many good parts.
Also many bad parts, and after the rise of the Christian era they become preponderant.
An abridged version could be pretty good.
on his Decline and Fall that I've been going through on their Amazon
Prime channel.
Gibbon was a great writer.
Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at June 30, 2019 12:48 PM (wOtmc)
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I'm sure a course about the book could be quite enjoyable. There are many good parts.
Also many bad parts, and after the rise of the Christian era they become preponderant.
An abridged version could be pretty good.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 12:56 PM (cfSRQ)
385
Sanders proposes canceling entire $1.6 trillion in U.S. student loan debt, escalating Democratic policy battle, Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), who will introduce legislation in the House to eliminate all student debt in the United States, as well as Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.), co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, who has championed legislation to make public universities tuition-free
Posted by: willow at June 30, 2019 12:56 PM (r/xAU)
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I read the reviews. Aren't those books satire?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, some kinda punk at June 30, 2019 12:52 PM (lLeln)
Many of the stories were, yes. As I recall. Again, my memory is not the best.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, some kinda punk at June 30, 2019 12:52 PM (lLeln)
Many of the stories were, yes. As I recall. Again, my memory is not the best.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at June 30, 2019 12:56 PM (JVrQi)
387
By Jeff Stein
June 24 WashingtonPost
June 24 WashingtonPost
Posted by: willow at June 30, 2019 12:57 PM (r/xAU)
388
I want a library just like that, but with couches .
Posted by: willow at June 30, 2019 12:58 PM (r/xAU)
389
Many of the stories were, yes. As I recall. Again, my memory is not the best.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at June 30, 2019 12:56 PM (JVrQi)
ack , you must have also hit 50.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at June 30, 2019 12:56 PM (JVrQi)
ack , you must have also hit 50.
Posted by: willow at June 30, 2019 01:00 PM (r/xAU)
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Mix that with pepper spray and you[ve got quick the concoction.
And I predict it will only escalate from here to worse chemicals.
Posted by: zombie at June 30, 2019 12:01 PM (oFcdC)
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Yes, of course they want it both ways.
"It's just a milkshake! Lighten up!"
"Of course we messed him up! He's a Nazi!"
I saw Instapundit's mentioning the Insurrection Act. I'd love it if Trump threatened this - and then issued WARNORDS for a bunch of red state National Guard units.
I'm thinking Tennessee, Alabama, West Virginia and of course Texas. Let them know exactly who is going to be restoring order in their fair city.
And I predict it will only escalate from here to worse chemicals.
Posted by: zombie at June 30, 2019 12:01 PM (oFcdC)
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Yes, of course they want it both ways.
"It's just a milkshake! Lighten up!"
"Of course we messed him up! He's a Nazi!"
I saw Instapundit's mentioning the Insurrection Act. I'd love it if Trump threatened this - and then issued WARNORDS for a bunch of red state National Guard units.
I'm thinking Tennessee, Alabama, West Virginia and of course Texas. Let them know exactly who is going to be restoring order in their fair city.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 01:01 PM (cfSRQ)
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Also, my very favorite children's author is Elizabeth Enright. She was the best.
Posted by: bluebell at June 30, 2019
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I was introduced to her as a child through "Goneaway Lake", which is probably still my favorite of her works. She's on the AoS children's book list in the age 8-10 group.
Posted by: bluebell at June 30, 2019
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I was introduced to her as a child through "Goneaway Lake", which is probably still my favorite of her works. She's on the AoS children's book list in the age 8-10 group.
Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at June 30, 2019 01:01 PM (wOtmc)
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my point in paying off higher ed if not for the 'greater good of all of us', if universities no longer teach all history, all consequence, all the things to actually progress civilization without having all the murder, they espouse , what's the point?
Posted by: willow at June 30, 2019 01:04 PM (r/xAU)
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I see that one of the "12 year old drag queen" moms, who lets her son
put on makeup and gyrate on stage in gay bars, is now upset that pedos
are trying to contact him. Just what the fuck did you expect, you crazy bitch?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 11:41 AM (JUUk1)
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The woman was virtue-signalling, using her kid as a prop.
That's what a lot of these people do. They want attention so they make their kids jump through hoops and bask in all the "likes."
The real-world consequences are something they simply don't think about.
put on makeup and gyrate on stage in gay bars, is now upset that pedos
are trying to contact him. Just what the fuck did you expect, you crazy bitch?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 30, 2019 11:41 AM (JUUk1)
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The woman was virtue-signalling, using her kid as a prop.
That's what a lot of these people do. They want attention so they make their kids jump through hoops and bask in all the "likes."
The real-world consequences are something they simply don't think about.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 01:05 PM (cfSRQ)
394
bluebell, what I never got was Dr Suess.
Posted by: willow at June 30, 2019 01:05 PM (r/xAU)
395
I remember there used to be a quote attributed to someone in ancient Greece moaning about "these kids today". Someone ought to find it and dust it off.
Every generation says that and I think every generation is right. I think almost every generation loses something the previous was good at or held dear.
Every generation says that and I think every generation is right. I think almost every generation loses something the previous was good at or held dear.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2019 01:06 PM (39g3+)
396
"12 year old drag queen" moms, who lets her son
put on makeup and gyrate on stage in gay bars, is now upset that pedos
are trying to contact him
--
Link?
put on makeup and gyrate on stage in gay bars, is now upset that pedos
are trying to contact him
--
Link?
Posted by: willow at June 30, 2019 01:06 PM (r/xAU)
397
385
Sanders proposes canceling entire $1.6 trillion in U.S. student loan
debt, escalating Democratic policy battle, Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), who
will introduce legislation in the House to eliminate all student debt in
the United States, as well as Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.), co-chair
of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, who has championed legislation
to make public universities tuition-free
Posted by: willow at June 30, 2019 12:56 PM (r/xAU)
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Old school conservatives want to fight this because they defend individual responsibility and so on.
But those virtues are dying. So the trick is to use the enemy's vices.
Hence the Wartime Conservative counter-proposal is to seize all the colleges' endowments to pay back everyone's loans.
I mean, how fair is it that these schools are literally sitting on billions of dollars.
As Instapundit says: fight inequality! Abolish the Ivy League!
Sanders proposes canceling entire $1.6 trillion in U.S. student loan
debt, escalating Democratic policy battle, Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), who
will introduce legislation in the House to eliminate all student debt in
the United States, as well as Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.), co-chair
of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, who has championed legislation
to make public universities tuition-free
Posted by: willow at June 30, 2019 12:56 PM (r/xAU)
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Old school conservatives want to fight this because they defend individual responsibility and so on.
But those virtues are dying. So the trick is to use the enemy's vices.
Hence the Wartime Conservative counter-proposal is to seize all the colleges' endowments to pay back everyone's loans.
I mean, how fair is it that these schools are literally sitting on billions of dollars.
As Instapundit says: fight inequality! Abolish the Ivy League!
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd at June 30, 2019 01:08 PM (cfSRQ)
398
I can say as a child of the 702, there was little good to see in the adults around my world, and that included cities and the free for all claimed as 'love and freedom'
so sex drugs and rock and roll and here we are.
so sex drugs and rock and roll and here we are.
Posted by: willow at June 30, 2019 01:08 PM (r/xAU)
399
70s*
Posted by: willow at June 30, 2019 01:08 PM (r/xAU)
400
As Instapundit says: fight inequality! Abolish the Ivy League
when the ivy league has dressed themselves up as world corporate raiders, i'm quite finished with them.
when the ivy league has dressed themselves up as world corporate raiders, i'm quite finished with them.
Posted by: willow at June 30, 2019 01:10 PM (r/xAU)
401
there should be separate universities for actual education, math, stem, literary, history
Posted by: willow at June 30, 2019 01:12 PM (r/xAU)
402
nice that no one decided to state there is a new thread.
Posted by: willow at June 30, 2019 01:15 PM (r/xAU)
403
402: I like to drag out the book thread.
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2019 01:18 PM (U7k5w)
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296 Another good series for kids is the Rick Brant Electronic (later Science) Adventures. Sort of like the Hardy Boys, but better.
Posted by: Charles the Simple
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Amazon has the whole series in a Kindle collection for .99, as I recall. My oldest daughter read them all around age 12, right after Jules Verne and before G. A. Henty.
Posted by: Charles the Simple
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Amazon has the whole series in a Kindle collection for .99, as I recall. My oldest daughter read them all around age 12, right after Jules Verne and before G. A. Henty.
Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at June 30, 2019 01:20 PM (adsVM)
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 30, 2019 01:21 PM (dm05u)
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I mean, I live in NJ, I already know it sucks. And the 'rons aren't hear to complain about Goneaway Lake and trip down memory lane.
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2019 01:21 PM (U7k5w)
407
I am toying with a pilgrimage to a used book store about 20 miles away. Probably a few nice farmstand on the way home
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2019 01:22 PM (U7k5w)
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306 Youze guyz!!!
I was trying to find books for a neighbor's little girl. Having all brothers and all sons, I was quite surprised to find the girly book in the collection. Brought back memories.
Posted by: IrishEi
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What age are we talking? I can load you up with suggestions: my girls are 14, 12, and 7, all avid book lovers.
I was trying to find books for a neighbor's little girl. Having all brothers and all sons, I was quite surprised to find the girly book in the collection. Brought back memories.
Posted by: IrishEi
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What age are we talking? I can load you up with suggestions: my girls are 14, 12, and 7, all avid book lovers.
Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at June 30, 2019 01:23 PM (adsVM)
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408: The Enright books will be lovely for the younger two.
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2019 01:24 PM (U7k5w)
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270 Has anyone read
HIS MAJESTY'S DRAGON?
The Napoleonic wars but with Dragons, sounds like an interesting series.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at June 30, 2019 11:23 AM (dKiJG)
original title Temeraire by Naomi.Novik
I love the first books of that series, but quality declines as it progresses
HIS MAJESTY'S DRAGON?
The Napoleonic wars but with Dragons, sounds like an interesting series.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at June 30, 2019 11:23 AM (dKiJG)
original title Temeraire by Naomi.Novik
I love the first books of that series, but quality declines as it progresses
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 30, 2019 01:25 PM (dm05u)
411
I was a Swallows and Amazons girl myself
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2019 01:28 PM (U7k5w)
412
according to a book published in 1953, Plato supposedly quoted Socrates as saying:
" The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers. "
however, I cannot vouch whether Plato really said that Socrates said it
source Bartleby's
" The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers. "
however, I cannot vouch whether Plato really said that Socrates said it
source Bartleby's
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 30, 2019 01:29 PM (dm05u)
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407 I am toying with a pilgrimage to a used book store about 20 miles away. Probably a few nice KEGstands on the way home
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2019 01:22 PM (U7k5w)
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DO IT.
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2019 01:22 PM (U7k5w)
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DO IT.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 30, 2019 01:29 PM (kQs4Y)
414
413; Aren't you sneaky?
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2019 01:31 PM (U7k5w)
415
Thank you OregonMuse and Hank Curmudgeon for the link to the tool catalog database. That's wonderful, literally full of wonders.
Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at June 30, 2019 01:31 PM (jkv81)
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I'm sure a course about the book could be quite enjoyable. There are many good parts.
Also many bad parts, and after the rise of the Christian era they become preponderant.
An abridged version could be pretty good.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd
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Yeah, he got in his own way with the anti-Christian attitude, much like many modern historians. I like to read Henri Pirenne afterward as a palate-cleanser.
Also many bad parts, and after the rise of the Christian era they become preponderant.
An abridged version could be pretty good.
Posted by: Tragically underselling author A.H. Lloyd
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Yeah, he got in his own way with the anti-Christian attitude, much like many modern historians. I like to read Henri Pirenne afterward as a palate-cleanser.
Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at June 30, 2019 01:38 PM (adsVM)
417
411 I was a Swallows and Amazons girl myself
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2019 01:28 PM (U7k5w)
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Arthur Ransome! Both my girls and boys love those.
"If not duffers, won't drown." gets used every time I take them swimming. :'D
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2019 01:28 PM (U7k5w)
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Arthur Ransome! Both my girls and boys love those.
"If not duffers, won't drown." gets used every time I take them swimming. :'D
Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at June 30, 2019 01:45 PM (adsVM)
418
sparkly unicorn vampire
drinks blood through it's horn
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 30, 2019 09:34 AM (dm05u)
"it was a one-eyed, one-horned, flying purple people eater. Sure was a sight to see."
drinks blood through it's horn
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 30, 2019 09:34 AM (dm05u)
"it was a one-eyed, one-horned, flying purple people eater. Sure was a sight to see."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2019 01:46 PM (WG6O9)
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I HIGHLY recommend Defiance (original title: Vandenberg), by Oliver Lange, whom I had never heard of.Written in 1971, it reads like a cross between Ayn Rand, Red Dawn, and Edward Abbey, with a soupçon of Cool Hand Luke.
The most non-spoilerish synopsis I can give is a bunch of rural New Mexico misfits who can't/won't adjust to the new order decide to destroy one of Bill Ayers' commie desert death camps. Surprisingly well written, too.
Here's a link to the original cover art (remove spaces): htt ps://im ages.app.goo.gl/xdHMfdHUEncX68tLA
For those who don't do links, it is a fist gripping a Bowie knife bursting from the center of a red star, and American flag motif emergent.IOW, an apt paraphrase of the last 12 years.
Perfect gift for the 4th!
The most non-spoilerish synopsis I can give is a bunch of rural New Mexico misfits who can't/won't adjust to the new order decide to destroy one of Bill Ayers' commie desert death camps. Surprisingly well written, too.
Here's a link to the original cover art (remove spaces): htt ps://im ages.app.goo.gl/xdHMfdHUEncX68tLA
For those who don't do links, it is a fist gripping a Bowie knife bursting from the center of a red star, and American flag motif emergent.IOW, an apt paraphrase of the last 12 years.
Perfect gift for the 4th!
Posted by: ogmrobvious at June 30, 2019 01:47 PM (zy1om)
420
417: He had a colorful early life in Russia, married Stalin's (!) secretary, IIRC. I loved those books, but could not get my kids into them at all.
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2019 01:49 PM (U7k5w)
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Since Gore Vidal was mentioned upthread --
'Julian' is absolutely excellent. Burr is another.
The rest of his novels are very, very good, but those two always stood out for me as some of the best of 20thC writing.
ps -- Dear Oregon Muse, I admire you excessively, but I do believe that 'Good Omens' and 'Hogfather' should be part of your enjoyable background references. Just sayin' -- please don't ban me for advising/recommending your reading, which is already awesome (cough * kissup * cough).
'Julian' is absolutely excellent. Burr is another.
The rest of his novels are very, very good, but those two always stood out for me as some of the best of 20thC writing.
ps -- Dear Oregon Muse, I admire you excessively, but I do believe that 'Good Omens' and 'Hogfather' should be part of your enjoyable background references. Just sayin' -- please don't ban me for advising/recommending your reading, which is already awesome (cough * kissup * cough).
Posted by: mustbequantum at June 30, 2019 01:50 PM (MIKMs)
422
Another good series for kids is the Rick Brant Electronic (later Science) Adventures. Sort of like the Hardy Boys, but better.
Posted by: Charles the Simple at June 30, 2019 11:41 AM (w7U7L)
I remember reading a couple of those as a yute.
Posted by: Charles the Simple at June 30, 2019 11:41 AM (w7U7L)
I remember reading a couple of those as a yute.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2019 02:24 PM (WG6O9)
423
I would also give any child 12 and up any (or every) P.G. Wodehouse book. They will change a kid in wonderful ways.
Posted by: Charles the Simple at June 30, 2019 02:27 PM (w7U7L)
424
Douglas Adams is another one. The "Hitchhiker" series has a lot of (what was then current) "political" jokes / commentary about Reagan & Thatcher
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 30, 2019 11:44 AM (KCxzN)
Funny, I just read Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy this week, and saw no mention of either. There was a remark made that Arthur Dent, being a life-long Guardian reader, was ill-disposed towards corporations, IIRC. And the ironic parallels between the destruction of Arthur Dent's house by the local council, and of the entire Earth by the Vogons.
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 30, 2019 11:44 AM (KCxzN)
Funny, I just read Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy this week, and saw no mention of either. There was a remark made that Arthur Dent, being a life-long Guardian reader, was ill-disposed towards corporations, IIRC. And the ironic parallels between the destruction of Arthur Dent's house by the local council, and of the entire Earth by the Vogons.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2019 02:29 PM (WG6O9)
425
All the talk about hand tools got me thinking. I have a number of books about using, restoring, and maintaining them. I'll put together a list of what's on the shelves for next week. Might be some interest.
Posted by: JTB at June 30, 2019 02:42 PM (bmdz3)
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Re: HGTTG, I also don't recall any Reagan/Thatcher jokes. Could they have been in the radio or TV series?
Posted by: Chuck C at June 30, 2019 03:29 PM (zCabI)
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Regarding "His Majesty's Dragons";
I've read four of 'em. Literally couldn't put them down once I picked them up.....But I didn't actually enjoy them. Great idea, very flawed execution. The main characters are pretty much Mary Sues, and the first book ends with such a dues ex machina that it made me hurt.
The world-building was also on the weak side. Nothing was ever thought-out, and implications of things were never considered until the main characters encountered them. Dragons live for centuries and are intelligent? Keep that a secret! Girls riding dragons? Secret! The whole dragon-riding base and culture that surrounds it? Secret! After all, we wouldn't want these centuries-old super-critical military traditions to impact the culture at large in any way. That would ruin the author's chance to feel superior to 18th century society....
I've read four of 'em. Literally couldn't put them down once I picked them up.....But I didn't actually enjoy them. Great idea, very flawed execution. The main characters are pretty much Mary Sues, and the first book ends with such a dues ex machina that it made me hurt.
The world-building was also on the weak side. Nothing was ever thought-out, and implications of things were never considered until the main characters encountered them. Dragons live for centuries and are intelligent? Keep that a secret! Girls riding dragons? Secret! The whole dragon-riding base and culture that surrounds it? Secret! After all, we wouldn't want these centuries-old super-critical military traditions to impact the culture at large in any way. That would ruin the author's chance to feel superior to 18th century society....
Posted by: Castle Guy at June 30, 2019 03:48 PM (Lhaco)
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A reply to: Brunette the 'Ette at June 30, 2019 12:19 PM (wOtmc) @359 above: Thank you! Very glad to hear that these excellent books are still remembered.
Perhaps my favorite of the series is "An Enemy At Green Knowe". It gave me a memorable nightmare when I first read it as a child. There is one passage in it that still gives me a grue when I read it:
"The house itself was a pleasant building but was repellent in that every window was shut and every curtain drawn across from top to bottom. It did not look like a house of the dead, still less that of an overcareful person who dreads sun-fading when the rooms are not in use. What was powerfully suggested was that the curtains were drawn so that whatever was inside should not be seen looking out."
Perhaps my favorite of the series is "An Enemy At Green Knowe". It gave me a memorable nightmare when I first read it as a child. There is one passage in it that still gives me a grue when I read it:
"The house itself was a pleasant building but was repellent in that every window was shut and every curtain drawn across from top to bottom. It did not look like a house of the dead, still less that of an overcareful person who dreads sun-fading when the rooms are not in use. What was powerfully suggested was that the curtains were drawn so that whatever was inside should not be seen looking out."
Posted by: John F. MacMichael at June 30, 2019 04:14 PM (iuRR5)
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ps -- I do believe that 'Good Omens' and 'Hogfather' should be part of your enjoyable background references. Just sayin' -- please don't ban me for advising/recommending your reading, which is already awesome (cough * kissup * cough).
Posted by: mustbequantum at June 30, 2019 01:50 PM (MIKMs)
Oh, I've read most of Pratchett's Diskworld books, included Hogfather. Just didn't get around to reading Good Omens. You wouldn't believe the height of my TBR stack.
Posted by: mustbequantum at June 30, 2019 01:50 PM (MIKMs)
Oh, I've read most of Pratchett's Diskworld books, included Hogfather. Just didn't get around to reading Good Omens. You wouldn't believe the height of my TBR stack.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at June 30, 2019 05:32 PM (JVrQi)
Posted by: Icesweeper at June 30, 2019 07:39 PM (2886j)
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Funny, I just read Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy this week, and saw no mention of either.
Yeah but there are like 4 versions and each is written slightly differently, so it might be in the original radio play. I have it in my kindle to listen to but after hearing the first episode and being disappointed, I fear it won't live up to the memory of first hearing it in the 80s
Yeah but there are like 4 versions and each is written slightly differently, so it might be in the original radio play. I have it in my kindle to listen to but after hearing the first episode and being disappointed, I fear it won't live up to the memory of first hearing it in the 80s
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2019 08:00 PM (39g3+)
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Vince Millam is a moron? Great! Bought The Amazon Job back when it first came out. Love the series--recommended!
Posted by: Ranten N. Raven at June 30, 2019 09:43 PM (8YAVU)
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OregenMuse:
What is the name of that Asteroid Belt miner Minister book? Sounds interesting
What is the name of that Asteroid Belt miner Minister book? Sounds interesting
Posted by: .87c at June 30, 2019 09:59 PM (DmDmL)
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433 OregenMuse:
What is the name of that Asteroid Belt miner Minister book? Sounds interesting
Posted by: .87c at June 30, 2019 09:59 PM (DmDmL)
I'll post a short note about this in next week's book thread.
What is the name of that Asteroid Belt miner Minister book? Sounds interesting
Posted by: .87c at June 30, 2019 09:59 PM (DmDmL)
I'll post a short note about this in next week's book thread.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 01, 2019 12:46 PM (JVrQi)
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