Tom Cotton's Statement on Corporations Against Conservative Voters

Below the fold, a video of his remarks.


Many state legislatures across the country have taken action recently to protect unborn babies from the violence of abortion. My home state, for instance, Arkansas, has just passed a law protecting unborn babies after 18 weeks of development. And this reform is not just supported by Arkansans. It's supported by a large majority of all Americans, more than 70% of whom believe unborn babies ought to be protected at or before that stage of pregnancy.

These reforms are the work of the pro-life movement, which fights for the most vulnerable among us every day. The pro-life movement seeks to change the laws of our country in the noblest tradition of our country, working within our democratic system so that our laws ultimately live up to our highest principle: That "all men are created equal," in the words of our Declaration. That all have a basic right to life.

But of course, this is a democracy, so not everyone agrees when or even if we ought to protect the unborn. I understand that. I know there are decent people on both sides of this sensitive issue. We resolve our differences and reach compromises through democratic debate. What should never happen, though, is billion-dollar corporations trying to dictate these moral questions to us. Politically correct CEOs shouldn't be in the business of threatening normal Americans.

But that's exactly what we've seen lately. The loudest objections to these pro-life laws haven't come from the "bottom up"-from normal citizens who happen to disagree with one another-but from the "top down": from cultural elites, and increasingly from giant corporations who wield their economic power as a weapon to punish the American people for daring to challenge their pro-abortion extremism.

Giant media companies like Disney, Netflix, and Warner Media have threatened to cripple Georgia's film industry if its residents don't bend the knee and betray their pro-life convictions.

And just last Monday, the New York Times ran a full-page advertisement organized by the pro-abortion lobby and signed by the CEOs of hundreds of companies saying that legal protections for unborn babies are "bad for business." How disgusting is that? Caring for a little baby is "bad for business."

Now, I get why outfits like Planned Parenthood or NARAL would say babies are "bad for business." Abortion is their business, after all, and they're just protecting their market share.

But what about those other CEOs? Why do they think babies are "bad for business?"

Perhaps because they want their workers to focus single-mindedly on working-not building a family and raising children. All these politically correct CEOs want company men and women, not family men and women. They'll support your individuality and self-expression just so long as you stay unattached and on the clock.

You couldn't find a more perfect example of this than &Pizza, one of the companies whose CEO signed the pro-abortion ad. &Pizza doesn't even offer paid maternity leave to all its employees-but it does celebrate their "oneness" and "individuality." It'll even pay employees to get a tattoo of the company logo. So if you want to be a walking billboard for your employer, &Pizza will foot the bill. But if you're pregnant with a child, tough luck. In the spirit of some of these CEOs, I might call for a boycott of &Pizza and its political correctness. But you could just skip them because their pizza is lousy, anyway.

There's a troubling trend among giant corporations using this wealth and power to force liberal dogma on an unwilling people. As liberal activists have lost control of the judiciary, they've turned to a different hub of power to impose their views on the rest of the country. This time it's private power, located in a few mega-cities on the coasts.

And that's not an exaggeration. The overwhelming majority of companies that lashed out against the pro-life movement in that New York Times ad are headquartered on the coasts, hoping to rule the rest of us like colonies in the hinterlands. More than three-quarters are headquartered in New York or California alone. More than a dozen are foreign companies. Yet those same companies presume to tell all of America what we should think.

And for some reason, this outrage only seems to go in one direction. As states like Arkansas have passed pro-life laws, other states have sadly gone down a different path, stripping unborn children of recognition and protection under the law. States like New York, Illinois, and Vermont recently passed laws declaring abortion a "fundamental right," accessible until moments before birth for practically any reason as long as you have a doctor's note.

We've already begun to see the consequences of these laws, which strain so mightily to defy and deny the humanity of the unborn. In New York City, prosecutors recently dropped a charge of abortion against a man who brutally stabbed to death his girlfriend and her unborn child. They dropped that charge because the pro-abortion law that had just passed the legislature in Albany removed all criminal penalties for killing an unborn child. According to the laws of New York State, that woman's child never existed.

Pro-abortion laws passed in New York, Illinois, Vermont, and elsewhere truly deserve the label "radical." So why isn't the national media covering these radical laws with the intensity they've reserved for states like Georgia? Where are the indignant CEOs who profess to care so much for their female employees? Nowhere to be found, because their outrage is very selective. They don't speak for the majority of Americans, much less for women. Instead, they're actively trying to force a pro-abortion agenda on an unwilling public.

These companies want to wield a veto power over the democratic debate and decisions of Arkansans and citizens across our country. They want to force the latest social fashions of the coasts on small towns they would never visit in a million years. They want us to betray our deeply held beliefs about life and death, in favor of a specious account of "equality." If there's one thing the New York Times ad got right, it's that "the future of equality hangs in the balance" when it comes to abortion. But their idea of equality doesn't include everyone: it omits and degrades unborn babies as expendable, lesser than, even "bad for business." That's a strange kind of equality, if you ask me.

This trend of intolerance ought to alarm everyone, no matter your views on this sensitive question. It threatens democratic debate on this question, and ultimately on all questions.

But despite the pressure campaign waged against us, I'm heartened, because I know the pro-life movement will carry on as it always has, speaking to the inherent dignity of every human life. Not everything can be measured on a corporate balance sheet. Some things are bigger than the bottom line or what wealthy corporations consider "bad for business." The cause of life is one of those issues worth fighting for.

Bonus:

>>>I would be more amenable to the libertarian argument regarding corporations if they were willing to stay the fuck out of political meddling. Once you use your power against me, I'm going to use my power, through my elected representatives, against you.


You know, there's a shareholder lawsuit to be had here. A corporation that acts beyond its corporate charter can be sued by any of its shareholders for acting ultra vires, acting beyond the directives of the corporate charter, the agreed-to purpose of the corporation.

Now, most such suits are over stuff like corporate charity but those suits don't work because of the very malleable concept of "goodwill." If a corporation thinks that donating to Planned Parenthood buys it more goodwill, it's within the corporate charter (as increasing goodwill is always or almost always permitted as a basic function of business).

HOWEVER, moves that alienate half the country, threaten states, BOYCOTT entire states, etc., do not increase goodwill. They decrease it.

Also, I'm 99% sure they don't run polls about this stuff to determine if such a move would increase goodwill or not. I think I know that because I know a guy who does consulting and was asked about this sort of issue, asked by the CEO of a MAJOR, MAJOR corporation for advice (because he thought all the liberal marketing department people and mid-level managers were just telling them their Get Trump opinion, not necessarily reflective of popular opinion).

How major a corporation? Well, one of the blue chips.

Anyway, he started to do a study, and so began looking for previous studies on this sort of issue for a background and template for his own study.

His findings? THERE HAS NEVER BEEN AN ACTUAL STUDY OR POLL DONE ON A CORPORATE POLITICAL POSITIONING MOVE. N-E-V-E-R.

His was the first.

Corporations just make these decisions based on the personal political preferences of the officers and board, and their vague "feels."

Therefore, I think an ultra vires lawsuit could prevail -- just ask them, "and what studies or surveys did you do to satisfy yourself that this was the best move for increasing goodwill, rather than your own partisan desires?"

I can almost guarantee they will not have done one. They'll just say something like "It's the sense I got from friends and from Twitter and FaceBook."

And then go to the jury.

I don't think a judge can dismiss your ultra vires lawsuit if the corporation can't show it did the most basic, and I do mean basic, due diligence in research to determine if its move, supposed in the corporation's interest to increase goodwill, would or would not increase goodwill.

BTW: I can imagine that many corporations actually do increase goodwill from their intended customers by going hard-left. Starbucks, for example, caters mainly to urbanites and those who crave a "European" experience for the mere price of five and a half bucks for a cup of burned coffee. Liberals, in other words, and nominal conservatives who desire that kind of liberal five-dollar fantasy.

Other corporations which serve similar clientele can prove they're acting within the corporate charter.

But less niche, more ecumenical corporations can't demonstrate this. HBO and Netflix, for example. Conservatives use these services in roughly equal numbers to liberals; we put up with it because we have to -- but it does not increase goodwill.

A nice way to get this ball started is a major boycott of one of just one of these big corporations that has to do business with, uck, conservatives. Something that really puts the hurt on them.

That would demonstrate to judges that such moves can in fact tangibly harm a business, and therefore can be ultra vires. Then they could not dismiss an ultra vires lawsuit claiming "Well, liberals like it and conservatives will tolerate no end of degradation from their corporate masters, so, overall, this does in fact increase goodwill."




Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:57 PM




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1 hello

Posted by: An Observation at June 19, 2019 05:59 PM (kWcaM)

2 I would be more amenable to the libertarian argument regarding corporations if they were willing to stay the fuck out of political meddling. Once you use your power against me, I'm going to use my power, through my elected representatives, against you.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 19, 2019 06:00 PM (wCmLp)

3 Let me give Tom Cotton a big AMEN! He is 100% correct on this issue and it is about damn time someone stated it boldly in public.

Posted by: Kenny The G from AZ at June 19, 2019 06:01 PM (D2tGE)

4

It's not "liberal" dogma.

It's goddam TOTALITARIAN dogma. And catma.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 19, 2019 06:02 PM (OAYzD)

5 So if you want to be a walking billboard for your employer, &Pizza will foot the bill. But if you're pregnant with a child, tough luck.

Savage. But dead on.

And honestly any new post where people aren't talking about scrotal ticks is a good one

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:02 PM (39g3+)

6
I keep saying, Cotton 2024.

Crenshaw plays Cotton on t.v.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 19, 2019 06:03 PM (M9ntN)

7
I'll stick it to Disney's Ballsack.

Posted by: The Gay Tick at June 19, 2019 06:03 PM (UFLLM)

8 "The Conservative Case for Fucking Corporations in the Ass".

I think I could actually make a pretty good argument for it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2019 06:04 PM (Kpl3J)

9

This stance is very anti-women. Trump should bring this up. Women need to understand what is happening. Men and women who love children and want a family - not the china 1-child family - are being crucified.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 19, 2019 06:04 PM (vEIlU)

10 Apparently ace did NOT want to hear about my vasectomy gone horribly wrong. I thought we were just getting started. Go figure.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 19, 2019 06:04 PM (OX6sG)

11 Libertarian pundits... they spells putz wrong

Posted by: Inogame at June 19, 2019 06:04 PM (2Sjp1)

12 The first thing conservatives need to understand (and I'm looking at you Cucksheders and Libertarians) is that you cannot trust big business any more than you can big government. Neither one cares for you or about you, only their own power and wealth.

What conservatives should understand, but leftists don't, is that business is more accountable and less powerful over your personal life than government. But they're both pernicious and destructive, and neither one is to be trusted.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:04 PM (39g3+)

13 Tom Cotton is a freaking giant.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at June 19, 2019 06:04 PM (VPvxh)

14 Corgis called.

Posted by: An Observation at June 19, 2019 06:04 PM (kWcaM)

15 Damn. That's good.

and yeah, their pizza is less than good...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 19, 2019 06:04 PM (6qErC)

16 But of course, this is a democracy, so not everyone agrees when or even if we ought to protect the unborn.

Point of order: The abortion issue has nothing to do with democracy or Congress or the Executive branch, at all. The SCOTUS took over the abortion, all to its own, and declared itself the one and only decider of all things abortion. No one else has any real say in abortion. It is an issue that the SCOTUS reserved to itself, and no one else.

Cute trick the SCOTUS pulled, there.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 19, 2019 06:04 PM (weya0)

17 That was powerful.

Posted by: huerfano at June 19, 2019 06:04 PM (6e1eX)

18 Yeah what that guy said is bullshit.

BRB got to go get some steaks and crab for my wife and her bull... and the latest Spiderman comic book for me. Always treat yourself.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at June 19, 2019 06:05 PM (pw+jk)

19 Apparently ace did NOT want to hear about my vasectomy gone horribly wrong. I thought we were just getting started. Go figure."

That's just nuts.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 19, 2019 06:05 PM (6qErC)

20 Cotton has potential

Posted by: G marks the spot at June 19, 2019 06:05 PM (r6yPR)

21 Seriously, I couldn't have said it better myself.

Look, the deal with corporations is this - stay out of politics and we'll work on getting the government out of business. Break the deal, face the wheel.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at June 19, 2019 06:05 PM (VPvxh)

22 Rep Cotton just knocked it out of the park. I am so tired of these corps and Hollywood fcks trying to dictate what to think and shaming anyone who dares think different. On the plus side. I have saved thousands not going to movies, etc. I try to give them as little of my money as I can.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 19, 2019 06:06 PM (H4VdJ)

23 I'm sure our "conservative thought leaders" like Bill Kristol and Jen Rubin will tell us that abortion on demand up until child birth is not the hill to die on.

There is a hill somewhere, and they will tell you which one it is when we get to that one, but it's one you don't need to know.

Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper at June 19, 2019 06:06 PM (fdTrp)

24 Excellent article. Corporatism was an allowed part of Naziism, by the by..... was a Very useful tool for Hitler.

Posted by: kraken at June 19, 2019 06:06 PM (90T4r)

25 Calling out the baby-killing pizza joint for screwing over its workers on medical coverage IS AWESOME!!!

SUCK IT, &PIZZA and your SHITSTAIN MANAGEMENT

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 19, 2019 06:06 PM (Mouru)

26 They'll support your individuality and self-expression just so long as you stay unattached and on the clock.

Or if you restrict your sexual activities to sodomy and anal sex. They love that. You get bonus points at FarceBook for coming to work with a Dirty Sanchez.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 19, 2019 06:07 PM (weya0)

27
Ace's excerpt is all about abortion, but lord, it's stuff as miniscule as uttering the phrase, "Fine People Hoax" on a YouTube video. It's accidentally taking the wrong road at a 36-way intersection of identities and grievance groups. It's accidentally misspelling "Mao." That's what concerns me.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 19, 2019 06:07 PM (M9ntN)

28 I had never heard of that pizza joint until now. Scratch that I guess.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 19, 2019 06:07 PM (H4VdJ)

29 Tom Cotton.... Josh Hawley..... hope for the Right....

Posted by: kraken at June 19, 2019 06:07 PM (90T4r)

30
btw, how absurd is it for "libertarians" to object to conservatives objecting being censored by big corporations?

Oh yes, how authoritarian of us to oppose authoritarianism and demand it stop!!

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 19, 2019 06:07 PM (OAYzD)

31 The abortion issue has nothing to do with democracy or Congress or the Executive branch, at all. The SCOTUS took over the abortion, all to its own, and declared itself the one and only decider of all things abortion.

Increasingly, over more and more of life, that's how its going. That's part of why I oppose courts ruling over lesser courts and what they can decide on. We do not need to give them any more power, especially as the constitution tells us who has that power (congress).

The reason courts have been used for this stuff is because people who could not get congress or voters to do what they want ran to courts to get it done instead. Over the will of the people.

The answer to that is NOT more court decisions.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:07 PM (39g3+)

32 I had to dig it out with a hot knife it was so deep and determined to stay locked in.
Posted by: tomorrow's trends today at June 19, 2019 05:56 PM (xTFXi)

Oh. Hell. No.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 06:08 PM (YTwfq)

33 On the plus side. I have saved thousands not going to movies, etc. I try to give them as little of my money as I can.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 19, 2019 06:06 PM (H4VdJ)

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Me too.

Best part is I have channeled that money into guns, ammo, and classic cars. Maybe a little was siphoned into the beer and alcohol accounts.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 19, 2019 06:08 PM (pw+jk)

34 when it comes to the big companies trying to dictate our lives I just think 'what would chick-fil-a do'
I can't believe it took so long to eat there
damn hawaii

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 19, 2019 06:08 PM (z9rum)

35 Breaking news: CEOs are bunch of weasels.

Posted by: dantesed at June 19, 2019 06:08 PM (88xKn)

36 32 I had to dig it out with a hot knife it was so deep and determined to stay locked in.
Posted by: tomorrow's trends today at June 19, 2019 05:56 PM (xTFXi)

Oh. Hell. No.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 06:08 PM (YTwfq)

Look at the bright side, at least he didn't use a Power Drill.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2019 06:08 PM (Kpl3J)

37 >>>I would be more amenable to the libertarian argument regarding corporations if they were willing to stay the fuck out of political meddling. Once you use your power against me, I'm going to use my power, through my elected representatives, against you.

you know, there's a lawsuit to be had here. A corporation that acts beyond its corporate charter can be sued for ultra vires, beyond the charter.

Now, most such suits are over stuff like corporate charity but those suits don't work because of the very malleable concept of "goodwill." If a corporation thinks that donating to Planned Parenthood buys it more goodwill, it's within the corporate charter (as increasing goodwill is always or almost always permitted as a basic function of business).

HOWEVER, alienating half the country, and threatening them, etc., do not increase goodwill. They decrease it.

Also, I'm 99% sure they don't run polls about this stuff to determine if such a move would increase goodwill or not. I think I know that because I know a guy who does consulting and was asked about this sort of issue, asked by the CEO of a MAJOR, MAJOR corporation for advice (because he thought all the liberal marketing department people and mid-level managers were just telling them their Get Trump opinion, not necessarily reflective of popular opinion).

Anyway, he started to do a study, and so began looking for previous studies on this sort of issue for a background and template for his own study.

His findings? THERE HAS NEVER BEEN AN ACTUAL STUDY OR POLL DONE ON A CORPORATE POLITICAL POSITIONING MOVE. N-E-V-E-R.

His was the first.

Therefore, I think an ultra vires lawsuit could prevail -- just ask them, "and what studies or surveys did you do to satisfy yourself that this was the best move for increasing goodwill, rather than your own partisan achings?"

I guarantee they will not have done one. They'll just say something like "It's the sense I got from friends and from Twitter and FaceBook."

And then go to the jury.

Posted by: ace at June 19, 2019 06:08 PM (PbpT7)

38 Fucking progressive locusts. they fail, miserably, then just move on to infecting the next thing, and the next.

If I had employee bitching about the need for the corporation to take a political stand, I would immediately fire said employees.

My company has a policy - you can NEVER bring anything political into the work place - not a t-shirt, button, bumper sticker, nada. They get pissy if you car has a bumper sticker on it and it is in their lot.

I agree with this policy.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at June 19, 2019 06:09 PM (VPvxh)

39 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at June 19, 2019 06:09 PM (1XAal)

40
Carpe Donktum does it again!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUycb90koJM

And his Hope Hicks vid is good, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 19, 2019 06:09 PM (OAYzD)

41 It sounded good, but it's just words. There's no call for any discrete action or definitive statement regarding what he or any other GOP individual, committee or other lawmaking entity is going to do.

Nothing but lip service.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 19, 2019 06:10 PM (e0nNm)

42 This confluence of Big Business and the Democrat Party Deep State apparatchik class is the textbook definition of Fascism.

And yet AntiFa calls me a Nazi? Go fucking pound sand and open an actual history book, one not written by Howard Zinn, and get some actual knowledge.

Or else.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 19, 2019 06:10 PM (c3RnB)

43 Netflix hasn't fulfilled its promise to leave Georgia yet. They are shooting scenes for something called "Ozark" in Savannah next week, and will be closing down major portions of River Street (where all the "tourons" hang out).

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 19, 2019 06:10 PM (ptqGC)

44 Their pizza is lousy.
And fuck those companies.



Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 19, 2019 06:10 PM (ufFY8)

45 I'm kind of OK with corps going all SJW.

It says "hey, I'm a baby killing homo and I don't share your values, so don't buy my products."


And I won't.

/looking at you Gilette and Nabisco, to name a few...

Posted by: shibumi, eagerly awaiting SMOD at June 19, 2019 06:11 PM (Cczdz)

46 40 i'd like to do a video with Hope Hicks
ohhhhh yeah

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 19, 2019 06:11 PM (z9rum)

47 Good...hopefully they get the message.

Honk. Honk.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 19, 2019 06:11 PM (ZL5wJ)

48 Me too.

Best part is I have channeled that money into guns, ammo, and classic cars. Maybe a little was siphoned into the beer and alcohol accounts.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 19, 2019 06:08 PM

Same here except the classic car part because I have teenagers that find many uses for my money. Oh and the guns and ammo part too. I mean after my tragic boating accident in one of our 11,000 lakes, I mean I can't remember which one? But seriously, I haven't been to a movie in probably 8 or 9 months, youngest begged me to take her to Star Wars and I did. Other than that there's actors that are on my no-go list. Even at home I will not watch their shit. Fuck them sideways with a flaming pineapple.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 19, 2019 06:11 PM (H4VdJ)

49 I had never heard of that pizza joint until now.

Same here.

Posted by: Basement Cat at June 19, 2019 06:12 PM (pPNCa)

50 Maybe I'm just a bad libertarian but when I say I want to be left alone, I mean that from all entities that want to have a say over me, be it governmental or private.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at June 19, 2019 06:12 PM (GbPPJ)

51 Culture war grinds on

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 19, 2019 06:12 PM (bcbK8)

52 43
Netflix hasn't fulfilled its promise to leave Georgia yet. They are
shooting scenes for something called "Ozark" in Savannah next week, and
will be closing down major portions of River Street (where all the
"tourons" hang out).


Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 19, 2019 06:10 PM (ptqGC)

Ozark is actually sort of entertaining, but it has liberal douchebag Laura Linney in it. The writers tend to cram in too much shit in too little of a time period, which stretches credulity.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 19, 2019 06:12 PM (ufFY8)

53 Time to pecker-slap them Cotton.

Posted by: Exurban Doug at June 19, 2019 06:12 PM (GzgV1)

54 Um, Tom, about that "losing control of the judiciary" part ......


A few million fresh officially welcomed and released illegals, gun owners in states containing about half the population, and lots of other folks and issues would like a word with you.


And even if the judiciary was being fixed, as opposed to tweaked, with personnel changes - or if nothing at all was happening - the corporations doing this crap would be doing it.


Posted by: rhomboid at June 19, 2019 06:12 PM (QDnY+)

55 Apparently ace did NOT want to hear about my vasectomy gone horribly wrong. I thought we were just getting started. Go figure.


Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 19, 2019 06:04 PM (OX6sG)

======
I have a real horror show story about a vasectomy gone wrong. This is scarier than an IRS audit.
A friend of mine got a vasectomy and then 3 years later his wife had to make a very uncomfortable call that she was pregnant. Those of you who have delicate stomachs may want not want to read the following.
Then after the fight, he found out it was his and that the doc had a history of not snipping enough and the tubes had grown back. He'd been shooting live ammo for months.

22 years of paying for a kid that was 8 years younger than his other three... AND college. That is fucking scary.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 19, 2019 06:13 PM (pw+jk)

56 Therefore, I think an ultra vires lawsuit could prevail -- just ask them, "and what studies or surveys did you do to satisfy yourself that this was the best move for increasing goodwill, rather than your own partisan achings?"



That's an interesting peg to hang some kind of legislation on. Because unfortunately, corporations have First Amendment rights also and any legislation designed to make them STFU on politics will almost certainly be shot down in the courts.

Ultra vires as a doctrine has nearly died out -- corporate chiefs seem to be able to do pretty much anything they want without worrying about any pushback from the shareholders -- but maybe its time to reverse that trend through legislation.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 19, 2019 06:13 PM (Mouru)

57 Something to remember though: 70 years ago corporations were more or less doing the same thing... but on our side. They ran ads promoting a certain viewpoint about women and men, and marriage and family. Patriotism, Christianity, etc all were not just assumed but promoted in all media, in ads, in packaging for products.

It was presumed that was how everyone ought to behave and anyone who questioned it all was shamed, fired, banned from public discourse, etc.

There was no social media to shut people out from or demonetize, but try to get a book published, make a speech, write a magazine article, make a movie all about how two dudes ought to be able to marry, or that some fella who hacks their bits off and declares themselves a woman should be treated as one.

I'm not endorsing this idea, I'm just pointing out that corporations taking social and political stances isn't new. Putting a rainbow on your corporate logo is new, but promoting some ideology with it is not, it just was ideology we support and agree with.

This isn't an argument that what they are doing is okay, its just a bit of perspective to consider when discussing this. You can't factually and honestly argue "this is new and has to stop" because it isn't. The argument cannot start from unprecedented political involvement or cultural trends.

It has to start from somewhere else, such as an absolute foundation for moral and ethical behavior which you cling to rather than the latest cultural and progressive trends. Right and wrong isn't what popular or traditional or familiar or groundbreaking. Its what is true regardless of culture or time or personal feelings.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:13 PM (39g3+)

58 50 Maybe I'm just a bad libertarian but when I say I want to be left alone, I mean that from all entities that want to have a say over me, be it governmental or private.
Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at June 19, 2019 06:12 PM (GbPPJ)

So what's a good libertarian?

Asking as someone who's voted Libertarian, when I was young and needed the money.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 19, 2019 06:13 PM (bcbK8)

59 People need to keep in mind that fashions come and go. The CEOs are jumping head first into this fashionable, juvenile leftism - and it is nothing but fashion - but it will not be something to crow about in public forever. At some point being an adult will, again, be in style .. because it has to be.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 19, 2019 06:13 PM (weya0)

60 I am sad to say the company I worked for hosted BHO twice while he was on the campaign trail, all while their Code of Conduct strictly forbade using company assets for political purposes.
That CEO is gone now and the new guy seems more focused on actually building the business, so that's good, but the bottom line is corporations are political entities and make decisions based partially on the politics of any situation.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at June 19, 2019 06:13 PM (T8A10)

61 What conservatives should understand, but leftists don't, is that business is more accountable and less powerful over your personal life than government. But they're both pernicious and destructive, and neither one is to be trusted.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:04 PM (39g3+)

The problem is that to truly strike at these companies requires lifestyle changes that few or, in my opinion, no one is willing to make. Other than myself, but I can't do it alone.

"But but but but my kids LOVE Disneyland!!!! And they've only been there 3 times!!!! I can't let them suffer like that!!!!"

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 06:13 PM (YTwfq)

62

Booker has volunteered to let Good Morning America livestream the digging out of ticks from his ballsack... that's gonna put us over the top, I tells ya!

Posted by: Chieftess Pow Wow at June 19, 2019 06:13 PM (UFLLM)

63 the conservative critique of corporate power is spreading.

Because the Names have gone out of alignment. The true axis of power and - soon - the issuance of currency is shifting to the corporations. We're sliding into corporate oligarchy.

Zheng Ming is coming, one way or another.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 19, 2019 06:14 PM (ykYG2)

64 Yeah, have to say our Deep State is Fascist, straight up... just a fascist socialist totalitarian movement... the 3rd Worlders they encourage to overrun our country are totes cool with this....

Posted by: kraken at June 19, 2019 06:14 PM (90T4r)

65 41 It sounded good, but it's just words. There's no call for any discrete action or definitive statement regarding what he or any other GOP individual, committee or other lawmaking entity is going to do.

Nothing but lip service.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 19, 2019 06:10 PM (e0nNm)

Name something that he actually has the power to do that would address this.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2019 06:14 PM (Kpl3J)

66 *golf clap* Nicely done Cotton.

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 19, 2019 06:14 PM (dUJdY)

67 Anti-abortion is the new Abolitionist movement.

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 19, 2019 06:14 PM (dm05u)

68 >>>That's an interesting peg to hang some kind of legislation on.

no legislation needed, shareholders are fully empowered to file suit.

If the corporation can't even point to a survey it did -- and my source says they, you know, never do -- then how can they say they're doing any due diligence in these political maneuvers?

Posted by: ace at June 19, 2019 06:14 PM (PbpT7)

69 NCJ!


And while the Gleichschaltung is repugnant, and widespread, and includes much of corporate Amerikkka, it's not "forced" on us, Tom. Don't consume the crap these companies excrete, and you have to read about it at places like this to know it's happening.



Posted by: rhomboid at June 19, 2019 06:15 PM (QDnY+)

70 #37 ACE YOU FUCKING GENIUS!

exactly. And such a lawsuit can be brought by any shareholder. You are supposed to be maximizing shareholder value, how is signing the corporation's name to an abortion policy (for or against) do that?

Ask at a shareholder meeting, and keep asking. After they mealy mouth the answer, launch a shareholder lawsuit. Straight up - the public company is not your private fiefdom, and you don't get to burn goodwill (which is a substantial portion of any company's book value) on your private fucking causes.

It is literally stealing value from the corporation, which is stealing from you.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at June 19, 2019 06:15 PM (VPvxh)

71 I had never heard of that pizza joint until now

Me either, some East Coast thing, maybe NY only. But there's a big trend of companies doing big time virtue signalling leftist wokeage and treating their employees like trash. There is an article came out today about Facebook employees and what a hellish place it is to work at. Amazon is infamous for how ghastly their business is to work for.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:15 PM (39g3+)

72 I know some left-wing Arkansans who all but burst into flames at the mention of Tom Cotton. Clearly, he genuinely terrifies them.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 19, 2019 06:15 PM (Vgw1E)

73 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:13 PM (39g3+)

Patriotism is not a social stance. You can't have a friggin country without patriots.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 19, 2019 06:15 PM (weya0)

74 So what's a good libertarian?

The one who brings the best weed lmao.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 19, 2019 06:15 PM (ykYG2)

75 "what about those other CEOs? Why do they think babies are 'bad for business?' Perhaps because they want their workers to focus single-mindedly on working-not building a family and raising children."

that may be part of it, but also the destruction of the family attitude, which is Christian/American, and tied to the rights of the sovereign individual.


Abortions degrade the sacred view of family, which not only builds their workers' devotion to company, but turns their consumers toward the globalist doctrine of debt and consumption.


That path of personal satisfaction through new toys (the drug of consumerism, built on unlimited credit provided by the corporations or the government, all fiat money leveraged to infinity) is an addiction that spans the globe ... at least for countries with advanced credit systems. BigFiatMoney is shaping the "New Man", and they will hold all the liens.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 19, 2019 06:16 PM (Cus5s)

76 Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 19, 2019 06:13 PM (pw+jk)

Much better than paying for college for a kid that wasn't his, but it sounds like an avenue for a lawsuit.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2019 06:16 PM (ivkO2)

77 These CEO s are some dumb fuckers, hunh?


Piss off half hour customers
???
Profit!

Posted by: Yo! at June 19, 2019 06:16 PM (1XAal)

78 Zheng Ming is coming, one way or another.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 19, 2019 06:14 PM (ykYG2)

Is that the Rectification of the Vuldronaii?

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2019 06:16 PM (Kpl3J)

79 Therefore, I think an ultra vires lawsuit could prevail -- just ask them, "and what studies or surveys did you do to satisfy yourself that this was the best move for increasing goodwill, rather than your own partisan achings?"

If only we had a George Soros type who would advance just such a lawsuit or promote the action of this kind instead of a bunch of nobodies coming up with it and right wing money being bundled up because there's no profit in it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:16 PM (39g3+)

80 ace is hinting at the primary [not only] answer here - shareholders. Private entities, barfing up their crap as private entities. Private action should be available.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 19, 2019 06:16 PM (QDnY+)

81 So what's a good libertarian?

Asking as someone who's voted Libertarian, when I was young and needed the money.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 19, 2019 06:13 PM (bcbK



Me, obviously. *eyeroll*

Let's just not discuss the Libertarian Party. Even this hive of scum and villany has standards.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at June 19, 2019 06:17 PM (GbPPJ)

82 This will come to blows. When one side of an argument just wants the other side to shut up without votes, logic, or history to back them up and when that same side declares all opposing democratic outcomes illegitimate, violence is always the outcome.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 19, 2019 06:17 PM (ETnOl)

83 69 hey rhomboid
I figured id stop by to say hi

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 19, 2019 06:17 PM (z9rum)

84 What these corps, celebrities, media, Hollywood etc. etc. FAIL to understand from a business perspective is that it's a business. At some juncture there's a breaking point and offending half your customers is a really shitty business model. I know I riffed on this the other day but until people start pushing back by NOT buying, clicking etc. their shit then there's no reason to change. No I am not perfect but I try and not give them any business etc. when I can.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 19, 2019 06:17 PM (H4VdJ)

85 Then after the fight, he found out it was his and that the doc had a history of not snipping enough and the tubes had grown back. He'd been shooting live ammo for months.

22 years of paying for a kid that was 8 years younger than his other three... AND college. That is fucking scary.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 19, 2019 06:13 PM (pw+jk)

Good thing he didn't have a side piece.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 06:17 PM (YTwfq)

86 no legislation needed, shareholders are fully empowered to file suit.

If the corporation can't even point to a survey it did -- and my source says they, you know, never do -- then how can they say they're doing any due diligence in these political maneuvers?

Posted by: ace at June 19, 2019 06:14 PM (PbpT7)


I wouldn't get too excited about this approach. If courts allowed corporations to set up golden parachutes and poison pills (which are specifically against the interest of the shareholders and specifically lessen value, as is the exact intent, just to save management's jobs) then I doubt any court is going to take a corporation to task for any of these social stances, not on the fiduciary, or corporate charter, angle, at least.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 19, 2019 06:18 PM (weya0)

87 Once upon an time I was a card carrying dues paying member of the Libertarian Party.

Then one day 19 assholes stole four airplanes and knocked down a couple of buildings in New York and the Libertarian Party couldn't come up with a solid stand on whether or not military action was justified as a response to it.

Fuck those doped up pacifists. Party of principal my tick-free ballsack (it's the kilts, keeps those little buggers from being able to get a good grip).

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at June 19, 2019 06:18 PM (T8A10)

88 you know, there's a lawsuit to be had here. A corporation that acts beyond its corporate charter can be sued for ultra vires, beyond the charter.

So far that's been a bust. Corporate officers are generally able to present it as branding and marketing. The real solution is for CEOs to start losing their jobs because their wokeness is costing the shareholders money.

Remember when the Target CEO lost his job after hackers took all Target's customer data? A few weeks after that the company at which I was working handed down a set of draconian computer security rules. We went from being unable to get money for security all the way to the envy of world intelligence agencies. I'm exaggerating, but not as much as you'd think.

If you want to get a CEO's attention, fire one of his friends. Pour encourager les autres.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2019 06:18 PM (h2Bdk)

89 no legislation needed, shareholders are fully empowered to file suit.

Shareholders suing a corporation for misusing its corporate assets has basically died under the expanding business judgment rule. Judges aren't suddenly going to be allowing these suits just because a lot of CEOs are shooting their mouths off about politics.

There would need to be legislation to change the current rules. And frankly, this would probably need to come from the statehouses rather than from the fed.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 19, 2019 06:18 PM (Mouru)

90 I am troubled by the modern idea that Corporations, or Governments, have RIGHTs.

They don't. They are Legal structures created by Men. They have powers and duties, but only Nature or God gives us Rights.

The idea that a CEO or President of a company, can use the Megaphone of that company to espouse a political viewpoint, not in THEIR name, but hiding behind the power and wealth of a company Logo, distorts what Democracy we do have.

Then add in Lobbyists, who often write legislation for their bought and paid for Politicians, and the Republic itself is in trouble.

Posted by: Don Q at June 19, 2019 06:18 PM (NgKpN)

91 this is pretty great. I'm conservative as fuck and I don't give a shit about muh private business if its a fucking cultural warrior main battle tank that scares the shit out of everyone who dares disagree with their SJW lunacy.

And it's not conservative to let yourself be ruled by outside force, whether a government or a corporation.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 19, 2019 06:19 PM (JziUy)

92

.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 19, 2019 06:19 PM (OAYzD)

93 87 could be much much worse
im still a democrat

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 19, 2019 06:19 PM (z9rum)

94 I worked for a company that opposed an "anti tranny" law in TN. No legitimate business reason for doing it other than to alienate the local yokels.

Posted by: Regular joe at June 19, 2019 06:19 PM (6/uwW)

95 So , let me see, we have arrayed against us.... the entire Media, all of Education, half of Government, most at least many , Corporations, much of Law Enforcement, all of Entertainment..... what have I left out???


And on our side, we have.....

Posted by: kraken at June 19, 2019 06:20 PM (90T4r)

96 OOMPA LOOMPA Jerry

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 19, 2019 06:20 PM (BqBId)

97 I think Ace's idea has some merit, at least to try. Not on a small level though, someone really big and high profile to put the fear of their god (money) into all of them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:20 PM (39g3+)

98 49 I had never heard of that pizza joint until now.

Same here.
Posted by: Basement Cat at June 19, 2019 06:12 PM (pPNCa)


Do they really make pizza, or do they just call a local pizza joint? So many of those trendy web companies are kinda fraudulent.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2019 06:20 PM (h2Bdk)

99 I guess I'll be off to the Barrel now.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 19, 2019 06:20 PM (Mouru)

100 oh no!!!
just got here and I get to see a barreling
shame

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 19, 2019 06:21 PM (z9rum)

101 legislation needed, shareholders are fully empowered to file suit.

If the corporation can't even point to a survey it did -- and my source says they, you know, never do -- then how can they say they're doing any due diligence in these political maneuvers?

--------------

the reasons that corporations became leftwing behemoths is:

1. bunch of 90's lawsuits about harassment n shit.
2. weirdo foreigners coming to power because you know why
3. janice in HR watched too much lifetime.

we need an arms race of major lawsuits to swing corporations back to the center.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 19, 2019 06:21 PM (JziUy)

102 22 years of paying for a kid that was 8 years younger than his other three... AND college. That is fucking scary.

Scary, yes, but it sounds like they kept the child.

* waves to Fenelon, who is probably thinking the same thing *

Posted by: Basement Cat at June 19, 2019 06:21 PM (pPNCa)

103 Now I want some pizza.

Posted by: dantesed at June 19, 2019 06:21 PM (88xKn)

104 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at June 19, 2019 06:22 PM (Zz0t1)

105 Cute trick the SCOTUS pulled, there.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
------------

Emanations! Penumbras!

We found stuff that had lain undiscovered for 150 years! Because we're really, really smart.

Chief Justice Warren Burger

Justice William O. Douglas

Justice William J. Brennan

Justice Potter Stewart

Justice Thurgood Marshall

Justice Harry Blackmun

Justice Lewis Powell

Posted by: SCOTUS at June 19, 2019 06:22 PM (2qPhT)

106 And on our side, we have.....
Posted by: kraken

God.

Posted by: Cheri at June 19, 2019 06:22 PM (oiNtH)

107 Dear liver, pancreas, heart, digestive system and cock. I am really sorry about 1984-2009. Really, About that. Sorry.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 19, 2019 06:22 PM (H4VdJ)

108 wasn't you Cicero , it was Ace's liver.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 19, 2019 06:22 PM (ykYG2)

109 So, it's about time some bigwigs in the GOP started caring about their base.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 19, 2019 06:23 PM (JziUy)

110 God's not on our side. We just best hope we're on HIS side.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:23 PM (39g3+)

111 107 Dear liver, pancreas, heart, digestive system and cock. I am really sorry about 1984-2009. Really, About that. Sorry.
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 19, 2019 06:22 PM (H4VdJ)


Cryptic comment, is this......

Posted by: kraken at June 19, 2019 06:23 PM (90T4r)

112 wasn't you Cicero , it was Ace's liver.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 19, 2019 06:22 PM (ykYG2)


What a relief. Have you seen this inside of this thing?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 19, 2019 06:23 PM (Mouru)

113 could be much much worse

im still a democrat

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 19, 2019 06:19 PM (z9rum)


Yeah, but you were a blackshoe too, and those guys are just weird.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at June 19, 2019 06:23 PM (T8A10)

114 just got here and I get to see a barreling
shame


Do you still follow Da Bears and Da Cubbies?

Posted by: Basement Cat at June 19, 2019 06:23 PM (pPNCa)

115 Name something that he actually has the power to do that would address this.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2019 06:14 PM (Kpl3J)

Well...maybe he could request someone in some high place actually investigate these companies. Or perhaps he could say he's initiating legislation to regulate these companies or a bill that would pursue some kind of monopoly busting.

Something actionable. Or he (and we) can just bitch about it some more. That seems to be de rigueur and effective.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 19, 2019 06:23 PM (e0nNm)

116 So, it's about time some bigwigs in the GOP started caring about their base.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 19, 2019 06:23 PM (JziUy)


Most GOP bigwigs hate their base.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 19, 2019 06:23 PM (weya0)

117 prosecutors recently dropped a charge of abortion against a man who brutally stabbed to death his girlfriend and her unborn child. They dropped that charge because the pro-abortion law that had just passed the legislature in Albany removed all criminal penalties for killing an unborn child.

A sign should be placed below any New York State Line sign that says "May God have mercy on all ye souls who enter here."

That is the most vile, disgusting thing I've read in a long time.

You can now walk up to a woman in NY who's pregnant, punch her in the belly repeatedly and kill her child and you'll only be charged for assaulting the woman.

Enjoy Judgment Day, New York Legislature and those that support you.

Posted by: Sponge at June 19, 2019 06:24 PM (Zz0t1)

118 And on our side, we have.....
Posted by: kraken

God.
Posted by: Cheri at June 19, 2019 06:22 PM (oiNtH)

Anybody seen him lately?

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 06:24 PM (YTwfq)

119 110 God's not on our side. We just best hope we're on HIS side.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:23 PM (39g3+)

Yeah, hate to say it, maybe not, but God is not an American....

Posted by: kraken at June 19, 2019 06:24 PM (90T4r)

120 Fuck those doped up pacifists. Party of principal my tick-free ballsack

That made me laugh, but the story of a tick in a ballsack-ewww.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2019 06:24 PM (ivkO2)

121
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 19, 2019 06:24 PM (KCxzN)

122 My multinational corporation wholeheartedly supports cuckoldry. You will allow us Capitalist Pig-dogs to fuck your wives with our big American cocks, and you will like it, Comrade!

Posted by: Fritz at June 19, 2019 06:25 PM (kLDv+)

123 it was Ace's liver.

Ace's liver was last seen in a seedy Thai tranny massage place in the company of Michael Cohen's cellphone.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 19, 2019 06:25 PM (ETnOl)

124 I didn't know details of the CEOs never doing studies about whether there is goodwill added by certain actions ... but I have long said these leftists at the heads of social media are acting AGAINST shareholder interest.


It is not "muh private company" ... they are a corporate entity with lotsa rules, most basic of which is increasing shareholder value, not pushing the radical left view of the nuts in silicon valley, and stomping on half their customers.



There is just no way that the decision to block all conservatives, defund them, on purely political grounds, was a decision to increase consumer participation. It has been the reason many are lookinng high and low for alternatives, and why we try to find a neutral search engine instead of the Google propaganda machine.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 19, 2019 06:26 PM (Cus5s)

125 Tom Fitton
"One of the reasons we had the fraud Russia investigation was to protect Hillary Clinton and because of her. That search and destroy mission against @realDonaldTrump is a result of Hillary Clinton's dossier, which is still being used to go after him."

Tom Fitton
BIG: FBI official admits under oath FBI found Clinton emails in Obama WH and that there were nearly 49k emails from Clinton server on Anthony Weiner laptop! No wonder Hillary Clinton skated

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 19, 2019 06:26 PM (BqBId)

126 113 this is true, for some weird reason I enjoyed being the t-shirt slogan of the week

114 of course!!! although the cubbie bats need to wake up and soon
da bears defense is just insane now, lets see if the offense can step up

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 19, 2019 06:26 PM (z9rum)

127 Most GOP bigwigs hate their base.

---

you know it.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 19, 2019 06:26 PM (JziUy)

128 Not the worst vasectomy story I've heard.

Over on American Digest, Vanderleun once posted a story about a guy he knew in CT who had a vasectomy (at the behest of his wife, who then ran off with the roofer), then later fell in with an English lady who wanted him to get the vasectomy reversed (so they could have a kid together and thus smooth the path to her getting U.S. citizenship), so he did, and suffered three days of agony (this was the '80s and reversing operations were a bit cruder then).

Turns out the operation wasn't successful in the fertility department anyway, though, and so his English lady friend up and left him. Such is life.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 19, 2019 06:26 PM (Vgw1E)

129 Abortions for some, miniature American Flags for others....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIgSTjzrmRg

Posted by: Kang at June 19, 2019 06:26 PM (1kJfL)

130 Abortion is just the beginning for the corporations. I wouldn't be surprised if their next direction is religion altogether. Any ideology that tells the little people to resist their betters will be deemed 'divisive' and therefore not in the best interest of society.

By religion I mean Christianity, most other religions don't have a problem with central power, abortion or even infanticide.

Posted by: Decaf at June 19, 2019 06:27 PM (PUz4C)

131 95 So , let me see, we have arrayed against us.... the entire Media, all of Education, half of Government, most at least many , Corporations, much of Law Enforcement, all of Entertainment..... what have I left out???


And on our side, we have.....
Posted by: kraken at June 19, 2019 06:20 PM (90T4r)


We're on a mission from God.

Posted by: Jake and Elwood at June 19, 2019 06:27 PM (h2Bdk)

132 Then after the fight, he found out it was his and
that the doc had a history of not snipping enough and the tubes had
grown back. He'd been shooting live ammo for months.

22 years of paying for a kid that was 8 years younger than his other three... AND college. That is fucking scary.


Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 19, 2019 06:13 PM (pw+jk)

well, thats why they cauterize the ends of the vas. That guy was just a quack. Hell any moron here will cauterize anything at any time. Its in the AoSHQEMM

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 19, 2019 06:27 PM (OX6sG)

133 Ozark is actually sort of entertaining, but it has liberal douchebag Laura Linney in it. The writers tend to cram in too much shit in too little of a time period, which stretches credulity.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 19, 2019 06:12 PM (ufFY



I have to say, I enjoy the jam-packed approach of "Ozark" plotting and episodes,

as opposed to the usual 13 episode borefest where only 5-6 of the episodes really matter and the rest are about secondary characters and ruminating over the ramifications of the previous episode that really mattered for 2-3 episodes.

In short, more action is more better for serial TV drama.



Posted by: naturalfake at June 19, 2019 06:27 PM (r1/AF)

134 Anybody seen him lately?
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 06:24 PM (YTwfq)

You mean like a burning bush-no, but I "see" God in numerous ways-in nature, in scripture, in hymns, in prayer, in meditation in people showing love when they were out of their comfort zone.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2019 06:27 PM (ivkO2)

135 It is gaslighting all the way down.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 19, 2019 06:28 PM (nJL+9)

136 Cryptic comment, is this......
Posted by: kraken at June 19, 2019 06:23 PM

It was from the last thread, I pondered if we had to write an apology letter to all the body parts we abused over the years.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 19, 2019 06:28 PM (H4VdJ)

137 So just to answer my own question that I posed in the last thread...in 2003 Eason Jordon of CNN admitted they knew all about Saddam Hussein's rape rooms and such and said nothing because they didn't want to limit their access. Later he came out with some tripe about not wanting to subject their sources to torture and death. Very magnanimous of them. Just goes to show...CNN has always been a bunch of jackasses.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at June 19, 2019 06:28 PM (T8A10)

138 That made me laugh, but the story of a tick in a ballsack-ewww.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2019 06:24 PM (ivkO2)

*waves to Fen*

Seeing Fen talk about ballsacks makes me giggle.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 06:29 PM (YTwfq)

139 andPizza looks like it is mostly DC and MAryland, with a smattering in NYC and Philly.

The pizza looks...okay. But it is a stupid shape. Unless it's a Sicilian or a Detroit pizza...it better be round.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 19, 2019 06:30 PM (wYseH)

140 I love you Fen, but ditch the hymns and get real...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0I6BjSONmY

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 19, 2019 06:30 PM (ETnOl)

141 What's more, if you eliminate religion then the corporations won't have to acknowledge holidays and pay workers for those days.

Holidays originated from holy days so I'm thinking corporations, or elites which is the same thing, will go after the name or the concept of holidays.

Posted by: Decaf at June 19, 2019 06:30 PM (PUz4C)

142 Its pretty obvious that any movement which promotes the murder of children is not one any sane or ethical person can even slightly defend or promote. Any organization that attacks families, men for being men, and the very idea of worshiping God is in the same boat.

There was a time in my youth when the Democratic Party was merely confused, mistaken. They were wrong on economics, but they were trying to find solutions to problems. Their approach on how to help needy people was wrong but it was an attempt to help people in need. And they had some good points, like how we should be more careful with the environment and work to reduce pollution.

But today? Today they seem to stand for evil on one position after another. Not mistaken. Not confused. Not misinformed. Evil.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:30 PM (39g3+)

143 It was from the last thread, I pondered if we had to write an apology letter to all the body parts we abused over the years.
Posted by: Minnfidel
------
Now, when you say 'abused', exactly what do you mean?

Posted by: Onan at June 19, 2019 06:30 PM (U7Mh9)

144 You can now walk up to a woman in NY who's pregnant, punch her in the belly repeatedly and kill her child and you'll only be charged for assaulting the woman.

Enjoy Judgment Day, New York Legislature and those that support you.
Posted by: Sponge at June 19, 2019 06:24 PM (Zz0t1)


I've absorbed enough good old-fashioned Calvinism from my youth that I am not, and probably never will be, 100% certain of my salvation. I'll probably always have a nagging fear that when I die, I won't make the cut, and off to the lake of fire I go.

However, what does make me feel better about that is the knowledge that if I'm going to the infernal regions, those fuckers are going with me. And on Judgment Day, I'm gonna laugh at them alllll the way down.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 19, 2019 06:30 PM (Vgw1E)

145 It would probably help to reexamine copyright and patent law in light of all these corporations becoming explicitly political.

If Disney wants to attack half the country, then why should we give them exclusive control over an eighty year old cartoon?

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 19, 2019 06:31 PM (wCmLp)

146 Anybody seen Him lately?

Not seen, exactly. But then, I'm Catholic

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 19, 2019 06:31 PM (ykYG2)

147 Steven Crowder got notification from Twitter that they have received 'official correspondence' about his Twitter acct.

Apparently, something in one of his tweets is in violation of....Pakistan law.



https://tinyurl.com/yy85ggk7

Posted by: Tami at June 19, 2019 06:31 PM (cF8AT)

148 Something actionable. Or he (and we) can just bitch about it some more. That seems to be de rigueur and effective.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 19, 2019 06:23 PM (e0nNm)

If'n I was a Congresscritter?

I'd propose legislation that, any company that does business across State Lines, must adhere to the US Constitutions Bill of Rights.


Or their business cannot cross State Lines, thus invoking the regulation of Interstate Commerce Clause.


It would stop POLITIAL silencing on the net cold, and would stop Banks from not servicing Gun stores.

Posted by: Don Q at June 19, 2019 06:31 PM (NgKpN)

149 Juggalos are libertarians.

Posted by: tomorrow's trends today at June 19, 2019 06:31 PM (xTFXi)

150 130 Abortion is just the beginning for the corporations. I wouldn't be surprised if their next direction is religion altogether. Any ideology that tells the little people to resist their betters will be deemed 'divisive' and therefore not in the best interest of society.

By religion I mean Christianity, most other religions don't have a problem with central power, abortion or even infanticide.
Posted by: Decaf at June 19, 2019 06:27 PM (PUz4C)


That wouldn't surprise me. At this point whole generations of kids have been raised to be atheists by the schools.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2019 06:31 PM (h2Bdk)

151 The list of CEOs was all obvious lefties, and many of their companies were jokes.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 19, 2019 06:31 PM (oVJmc)

152 if we had to write an apology letter to all the body parts we abused over the years.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 19, 2019 06:28 PM (H4VdJ)

12-16 might be brutal.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 19, 2019 06:31 PM (wYseH)

153 So I shouldn't go to the DR for my hitmen?

@Breaking911 2m

BREAKING: Dominican Republic lead prosecutor says shooting of ex-Red Sox slugger David Ortiz was result of mistaken identity - AP

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 19, 2019 06:31 PM (DrqHq)

154 142

But today? Today they seem to stand for evil on one position after another. Not mistaken. Not confused. Not misinformed. Evil.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:30 PM (39g3+)

Yep.... pretty indefensible lot.....

Posted by: kraken at June 19, 2019 06:31 PM (90T4r)

155 the reasons that corporations became leftwing behemoths is:

1. bunch of 90's lawsuits about harassment n shit.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 19, 2019 06:21 PM (JziUy)


Yep. The courts have been instrumental in perverting so much of society - civil courts being the worst. They let bullshit suits go through and then juries are happy as shit to hand down insane "damages" that the courts just happily act as if they made sense. It's pathetic and dangerous and cannot go on much longer as it has.

The idea that you can have a pool, put a 15 foot fence up around it, with barbed wire, and some kid cuts the fence and illegally trespasses on your property and then dies in your pool like a spaz, you are held liable for his illegal actions against you and you have to enrich his family. It's beyond crazy.

With this sort of an insane notion of "liability" no one is ever safe in this society. And juries are happy to return judgments of $47.32 trillion dollars for someone who cut his nose off with a hack saw because there was no warning on the blade not to cut ones nose with it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 19, 2019 06:32 PM (weya0)

156 if we had to write an apology letter to all the body parts we abused over the years.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 19, 2019 06:28 PM (H4VdJ)

12-16 might be brutal.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 19, 2019 06:31 PM

Better get some more paper

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 19, 2019 06:32 PM (H4VdJ)

157 Seeing Fen talk about ballsacks makes me giggle.


I'm not sure whether to be proud or ashamed of our influence on Fen.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 19, 2019 06:33 PM (ETnOl)

158 123 it was Ace's liver.

Ace's liver was last seen in a seedy Thai tranny massage place in the company of Michael Cohen's cellphone.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 19, 2019 06:25 PM (ETnOl)


Look, it was just a massage. A very expensive massage.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2019 06:33 PM (h2Bdk)

159 It's all fun and games until the penetration becomes stale, dry and routine.

Posted by: Fritz at June 19, 2019 06:33 PM (kLDv+)

160 Well it's been great seeing everyone again but Mrs Hades is away so I might as well go to work. Later roonz and roonettez, fear no evil!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at June 19, 2019 06:33 PM (T8A10)

161 Well...maybe he could request someone in some high place actually investigate these companies. Or perhaps he could say he's initiating legislation to regulate these companies or a bill that would pursue some kind of monopoly busting. "

Maybe I'm skeptical because my mind instantly goes to these ideas and - investigate? Investigate what? We don't like what they're doing, but there's certainly no law against it. (the issue of a shareholder lawsuit for diminished value is a private matter) Also - legislation? He's in Nancy Pelosi's Congress. Name anything Tom Cotton could propose on any issue that won't get laughed out of Congress by Nancy 30 minutes after he proposes it.

So this is an issue where there currently are NO options except to talk about it and inform the public, with the goal being to build up enough of a movement to take back Congress and THEN maybe talking about taking away some tax breaks or something.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2019 06:33 PM (Kpl3J)

162 I'll probably always have a nagging fear that when I die, I won't make the cut, and off to the lake of fire I go.

Yeah well I've been a Calvinist almost my entire life, and I'm in the same boat. If I make it to paradise, its gonna be by the skin of my teeth, barely. I'll be the guy out back of the mansions Jesus is preparing for others more deserving, digging ditches and living in a grass hut.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:33 PM (39g3+)

163 You mean like a burning bush-no, but I "see" God in numerous ways-in nature, in scripture, in hymns, in prayer, in meditation in people showing love when they were out of their comfort zone.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2019 06:27 PM (ivkO2)

Yeah I know, I was just being sarcastic. I should stop that.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 06:33 PM (YTwfq)

164 BREAKING: Dominican Republic lead prosecutor says shooting of ex-Red Sox slugger David Ortiz was result of mistaken identity - AP

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 19, 2019 06:31 PM (DrqHq)

Yeah, that's not gonna help your current tourism problems...at.all.

Posted by: Tami at June 19, 2019 06:34 PM (cF8AT)

165 139 Detroit has pizza?
i'm pretty sure there's only one place in the US to get a pizza worthy of eating and that would be the land of greatness aka CHICAGO

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 19, 2019 06:34 PM (z9rum)

166 With this sort of an insane notion of "liability" no one is ever safe in this society. And juries are happy to return judgments of $47.32 trillion dollars for someone who cut his nose off with a hack saw because there was no warning on the blade not to cut ones nose with it.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 19, 2019 06:32 PM (weya0)


Um, what state are we talking about here?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: The Cicero Law Offices, Your Hacksaw Injury Bulldog -- "Ill Fight For You!" at June 19, 2019 06:34 PM (Mouru)

167
BREAKING: Dominican Republic lead prosecutor says shooting of ex-Red Sox slugger David Ortiz was result of mistaken identity - AP


LOL! hahahahaha, what a farce!!

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 19, 2019 06:34 PM (5TrFX)

168 BREAKING: Dominican Republic lead prosecutor says shooting of ex-Red Sox slugger David Ortiz was result of mistaken identity - AP
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 19, 2019 06:31 PM

Come for the fake booze coma, stay for the mistaken identity shooting! My wife and I were considering Dominican next year. We spent way to much in Hawaii. And were looking for a cheaper option and some friends were there a few years back and loved it. Now I am not so sure.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 19, 2019 06:34 PM (H4VdJ)

169 "It's not "liberal" dogma.

It's goddam TOTALITARIAN dogma. And catma.
Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 19, 2019 06:02 PM (OAYzD)"

- - - - - - -

The socialist, elitist, totalitarians are already behaving like the Soviet apparatchiks who had a separate and exclusive lane on roads just for them so they were not impeded by the lumpen proletariats.

Posted by: Decaf at June 19, 2019 06:34 PM (PUz4C)

170 Dominican Republic lead prosecutor says shooting of ex-Red Sox slugger David Ortiz was result of mistaken identity

Great, so instead of being a deliberate hit, anyone could randomly be shot by some pot-addled rasta? Much better.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:34 PM (39g3+)

171 Do not personally worry about my afterlife. It is really spelled out clearly, in the Bible.

Posted by: kraken at June 19, 2019 06:35 PM (90T4r)

172 Sounds like a boring movie.

Posted by: wth at June 19, 2019 06:35 PM (v0R5T)

173 By religion I mean Christianity, most other religions don't have a problem with central power, abortion or even infanticide.

Islam has a problem with abortion and (especially) infanticide - to give it its due. There's a whole sura, Duha, attacking infanticides who are killing girls.

Islam does assume that the parties involved are Muslims - but then, Islam assumes that all babies in the womb are Muslim until birth.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 19, 2019 06:35 PM (ykYG2)

174 BREAKING: Dominican Republic lead prosecutor says shooting of ex-Red Sox slugger David Ortiz was result of mistaken identity - AP

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 19, 2019 06:31 PM (DrqHq)


So, did they kill the right guy, eventually?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 19, 2019 06:35 PM (weya0)

175 The corporate wars; started they have.

Posted by: Yoda at June 19, 2019 06:36 PM (gmo/4)

176 165 139 Detroit has pizza?
i'm pretty sure there's only one place in the US to get a pizza worthy of eating and that would be the land of greatness aka CHICAGO
Posted by: navycopjoe at June 19, 2019 06:34 PM (z9rum)


Yeah, I suppose. Must be good if it's worth getting shot at.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2019 06:36 PM (h2Bdk)

177 Detroit has pizza?

Yeah its square, kinda deep dish. Its not bad, but its not as good as Chicago, in my opinion.

You know what annoys me? People trying to make deep dish pizza who don't know what the hell it is. Hey Pizza Hut, deep dish pizza is a pie, its not a damned loaf of bread with the same toppings as usual on top. I'm looking at you DiGornio. That's not deep dish, its a crappy sandwich.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:36 PM (39g3+)

178 >>>174 BREAKING: Dominican Republic lead prosecutor says shooting of ex-Red Sox slugger David Ortiz was result of mistaken identity - AP

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 19, 2019 06:31 PM (DrqHq)

So, did they kill the right guy, eventually?

hah!

Posted by: ace at June 19, 2019 06:36 PM (PbpT7)

179 News flash the Hill reports Dems caving on some broder funding

Posted by: Regular joe at June 19, 2019 06:36 PM (6/uwW)

180 Great, so instead of being a deliberate hit, anyone could randomly be shot by some pot-addled rasta? Much better.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:34 PM (39g3+)


Assassins are hash-addled, not pot-addled.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 19, 2019 06:36 PM (weya0)

181 The corporate wars; started they have.
Posted by: Yoda at June 19, 2019 06:36 PM

Speaking of, you know who's an annoying elitist ignorant little fuck? Spike Lee. I hope someone shits on his glasses.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 19, 2019 06:37 PM (H4VdJ)

182
So I shouldn't go to the DR for my hitmen?



@Breaking911 2m



BREAKING: Dominican Republic lead prosecutor says shooting of ex-Red
Sox slugger David Ortiz was result of mistaken identity - AP

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 19, 2019 06:31 PM (DrqHq)


You could have stopped at I shouldn't go to the DR.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 19, 2019 06:37 PM (9Om/r)

183 There is just no way that the decision to block all conservatives, defund them, on purely political grounds, was a decision to increase consumer participation. It has been the reason many are lookinng high and low for alternatives, and why we try to find a neutral search engine instead of the Google propaganda machine.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 19, 2019 06:26 PM (Cus5s)

Sadly, there is a rational business case to be made to silence the US Right.

Most of the world's government hates the US, and its the RIGHT that makes the US strong.

They know the Left will cave and be multinational and weak, so they pass laws inhibiting free speech within their own countries, and make the US Rights speech, against their laws.

So, in order to do business in places like Pakistan, or China, they must 'censor' the views of the US Right.

Real issue is our own government will not protect OUR (the US's) Rights.

Posted by: Don Q at June 19, 2019 06:37 PM (NgKpN)

184 "Dominican Republic lead prosecutor says shooting of ex-Red Sox slugger David Ortiz was result of mistaken identity"

Boy, does that shooter feel stupid right about now.

Although not as stupid as Ortiz, for visiting the Dominican Republic this year.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 19, 2019 06:37 PM (ykYG2)

185 168 all that time in Hawaii and you never let me buy you a beer
~~SOB~~
heading to the DR next week for 7 days vacation
should be fun
ugggh

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 19, 2019 06:37 PM (z9rum)

186

BREAKING: Dominican Republic lead prosecutor says shooting of ex-Red Sox slugger David Ortiz was result of mistaken identity - AP

There's an old joke from a standup comedian (I forrgot who) in the 80's who ripped on the "Fuddruckers" name -- he said, "imagine what their second choice was."


Imagine what the "Dominican Republic lead prosecutor's second bullshit excuse for motivation was.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 19, 2019 06:37 PM (5TrFX)

187 BREAKING: Dominican Republic lead prosecutor says shooting of ex-Red Sox slugger David Ortiz was result of mistaken identity - AP

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 19, 2019 06:31 PM (DrqHq)

So, did they kill the right guy, eventually?


DO I HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING AROUND HERE?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 19, 2019 06:37 PM (ETnOl)

188 Assassins are hash-addled, not pot-addled.

True, Hashashin. I wonder if you can visit their old mountain lair these days, or if its on Google maps.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:37 PM (39g3+)

189 BREAKING: Dominican Republic lead prosecutor says shooting of ex-Red
Sox slugger David Ortiz was result of mistaken identity - AP



Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 19, 2019 06:31 PM (DrqHq)

All old Red Sox players look alike.

Posted by: Archer at June 19, 2019 06:38 PM (gmo/4)

190 The corporate wars; started they have.
Posted by: Yoda at June 19, 2019 06:36 PM (gmo/4)


We'll all get cybernetic implants, gauss guns, and persuadertrons.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 19, 2019 06:38 PM (wCmLp)

191 Posted by: Don Q at June 19, 2019 06:31 PM (NgKpN)

Seems like Cotton (or anyone else who's been silenced for that matter) could lodge a compliant within the appropriate jurisdiction, provide some evidence and claim discrimination based on political speech and ask for an investigation. Hell, launch a lawsuit and let slip the dogs of lawfare war.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 19, 2019 06:38 PM (e0nNm)

192 Assassins are hash-addled, not pot-addled.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 19, 2019 06:36 PM (weya0)


Isn't hash just concentrated pot resin?

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2019 06:38 PM (h2Bdk)

193 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:33 PM (39g3+)

Don't really understand that from my Christian perspective. Lots of people are better than I am. It doesn't matter. I am what I am-a sinner in need of God's grace- and yet as the hymn says "My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus' blood and righteousness...."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2019 06:38 PM (ivkO2)

194 There's an old joke from a standup comedian (I forrgot who) in the 80's who ripped on the "Fuddruckers" name -- he said, "imagine what their second choice was."

"Dude I eat there all the time!"
--Apple guy from Idiocracy

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:38 PM (39g3+)

195 139 Detroit has pizza?
i'm pretty sure there's only one place in the US to get a pizza worthy of eating and that would be the land of greatness aka CHICAGO
Posted by: navycopjoe at June 19, 2019 06:34 PM (z9rum)

Everything I need to know about Shitcago I read on
Heyjackass.com.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 06:39 PM (YTwfq)

196 So apparently they picked the wrong designated hitter.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 19, 2019 06:39 PM (H4VdJ)

197 Corporations and big business had a lot of respect among the citizenry when it was understood that anyone can work hard and rise through the ranks to be the top dog.

Now people are realising that they are being locked out of these opportunities and one big tell is the Ivy League colleges enrolment policies and practices. Being the brightest means nothing and being a child of the wealthy and elite is everything.

Posted by: Decaf at June 19, 2019 06:39 PM (PUz4C)

198 Speaking of, you know who's an annoying elitist ignorant little fuck? Spike Lee. I hope someone shits on his glasses.
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 19, 2019 06:37 PM (H4VdJ)


There's a guy who works at the sandwich shop next to my office who looks like Spike Lee. It's funny as heck.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 19, 2019 06:39 PM (wCmLp)

199 I told my client company to take me off any of the Pride or Gay corporate emails. You would have thought I told them I wanted to kill my baby or something.

My reasoning was that I found it offensive as a Christian and they were making me feel unsafe. I also mentioned if they were going to allow that type of email, then they had to give equal time to the opposing view or the general Christian faith. "Why can't we have an email supporting Holy Month running up into Christmas and the Chriatening?

Dumb looks all around, because they know if I sued, I would win. They also can't fire me, especially now because I am demonstrably a good employee.

By the way, I have zero animosity towards gay people. We just disagree and that's OK. They are still my brother or sister irrespective.

You might think a company CEO by definition would understand that, and not be the pitiful, weak bastions of bias making piss poor decisions that are not only bad for the company, but display terrible judgment based on nothing but pathos.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 19, 2019 06:39 PM (VkWRL)

200 Great work Tom Cotton. The next time my phony GOPe senator James Lankford runs, I'll donate my money to Cotton instead. My money goes to effective pro-life leaders.

Posted by: Panchito Pistoles at June 19, 2019 06:39 PM (d+Udu)

201
The DR prosecutor was, like, hmm, should I go with "mistaken identity" or....."what shooting??"

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 19, 2019 06:40 PM (5TrFX)

202 Don't really understand that from my Christian perspective. Lots of people are better than I am. It doesn't matter.

Sure, I'm saved only by the doing and dying of Jesus Christ, it is His work alone that saves, not mine. I bring only my sin and need for salvation to the transaction.

Its just... I look in the mirror and know damn well what I deserve. And there are plenty of places in the Bible that tell us things aren't going to be all equal in paradise.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:40 PM (39g3+)

203 A hit, and a miss!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 19, 2019 06:40 PM (oVJmc)

204 Corporations I think are getting Leftist Seminary graduates in their companies.

Posted by: Skip at June 19, 2019 06:40 PM (BbGew)

205 "Islam has a problem with abortion and (especially) infanticide - to give it its due. There's a whole sura, Duha, attacking infanticides who are killing girls. "

Tell the libs that; they'll start burning abortion clinics to the ground in an arsonist frenzy of virtue signaling.

The worst part of this corporate culture war is these giant companies with bottomless resources are attacking normal beliefs; gun ownership is a Constitutional right and a huge part of American culture, and not celebrating the death of babies is simply not being some sort of murder worshiping monster. But Zuckerberg and these other billionaire sociopaths can allow that.

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 19, 2019 06:40 PM (tRd71)

206 I disagree with the "why" though.

I agree they should keep their political advocacy personal and on their own time where they're 100% entitled to be as advocacy-y as they like.

But I disagree with the "why".

I think that even mega corporations like Disney are afraid. They're afraid of the wreckers, the mob, the crazy-cakes "woke" who've taken over even their own companies from HR. Silence on issues isn't acceptable if you don't want to be the target of outrage. You must clap and not be seen to be the first to stop.

Sure, some of them have personal opinions right in line but I think that more of them are afraid.

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at June 19, 2019 06:40 PM (BD/yx)

207 195 heyjackass
home of the legendary Shotintheassometer

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 19, 2019 06:41 PM (z9rum)

208 So apparently they picked the wrong designated hitter.

They better leave Edgar alone

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:41 PM (39g3+)

209 Man, do I need a raise.

Posted by: Dominican Republic Tourism Official at June 19, 2019 06:41 PM (Mouru)

210 202

Its just... I look in the mirror and know damn well what I deserve. And there are plenty of places in the Bible that tell us things aren't going to be all equal in paradise.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:40 PM (39g3+)

Just focus on the " Paradise" part......

Posted by: kraken at June 19, 2019 06:41 PM (90T4r)

211 166 With this sort of an insane notion of "liability" no one is ever safe in this society. And juries are happy to return judgments of $47.32 trillion dollars for someone who cut his nose off with a hack saw because there was no warning on the blade not to cut ones nose with it.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 19, 2019 06:32 PM (weya0)

Um, what state are we talking about here?

Asking for a friend.
Posted by: The Cicero Law Offices, Your Hacksaw Injury Bulldog -- "Ill Fight For You!" at June 19, 2019 06:34 PM (Mouru)

Calif, no doubt. You know the State where a 'Psychic' forced her Doctor to give her a Catscan because she KNEW something was wrong.

And then LOST her psychic powers due to the Catscan? Was granted MILLIONS in lost wages and damages?

(of course, the Defense was stupid, all they had to ask was 'if you were such a great psychic, how come you didn't KNOW you would loose your powers from the scan).

Posted by: Don Q at June 19, 2019 06:42 PM (NgKpN)

212 NashVegas takes the win from StarkVegas.

Posted by: tomorrow's trends today at June 19, 2019 06:42 PM (xTFXi)

213 I think that even mega corporations like Disney are afraid. They're afraid of the wreckers, the mob, the crazy-cakes "woke" who've taken over even their own companies from HR. Silence on issues isn't acceptable if you don't want to be the target of outrage. You must clap and not be seen to be the first to stop.

Sure, some of them have personal opinions right in line but I think that more of them are afraid.
Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at June 19, 2019 06:40 PM (BD/yx)


This has the ring of truth.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2019 06:42 PM (h2Bdk)

214
So apparently they picked the wrong designated hitter.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 19, 2019 06:39 PM


well played

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 19, 2019 06:42 PM (KCxzN)

215 147 Steven Crowder got notification from Twitter that they have received 'official correspondence' about his Twitter acct.

Apparently, something in one of his tweets is in violation of....Pakistan law.
https://tinyurl.com/yy85ggk7
Posted by: Tami at June 19, 2019 06:31 PM (cF8AT)

That is actually a big f'n deal. Twitter has just officially announced that they are going to enforce the Blasphemy Laws of every Islamic State on Earth.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2019 06:42 PM (Kpl3J)

216 Assassins are hash-addled, not pot-addled.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
------

Not all, of course. The guy that killed Indira Gandhi had been drinking Famous Grouse.

No word on Lee Harvey Oswald.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 19, 2019 06:42 PM (4bd7D)

217 So apparently they picked the wrong designated hitter.
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 19, 2019 06:39 PM

C'mon, nothing for that? Alright. Well off to do some productive type things.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 19, 2019 06:42 PM (H4VdJ)

218 Ace name the company or companies and lets get started with the Boycott....please consider avoiding boycotting companies dealing in booze or sex--there are bridges we need not cross.

Posted by: Voter theater. at June 19, 2019 06:43 PM (b069J)

219
You mean like a burning bush-no, but I "see" God in numerous ways-in
nature, in scripture, in hymns, in prayer, in meditation in people
showing love when they were out of their comfort zone.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2019 06:27 PM (ivkO2)


...and cannibals?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 19, 2019 06:43 PM (OX6sG)

220 The deplatformings and bannings have very little to do with punishment for being offensive. I think the real offence of today's undesirables is that they were being successful in "awakening" people to what the powerful were up to.

You can be "woke" but don't you dare be "awake" to reality. Perversion of language is just another method to pervert reality.

Posted by: Decaf at June 19, 2019 06:43 PM (PUz4C)

221

Question: Why is a woman playing a cello so sexy??

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 19, 2019 06:43 PM (5TrFX)

222 http://bit.ly/2ZCva3x
*******
FBI: Syrian Refugee Who Pledged Allegiance to ISIS Arrested for Pittsburgh Church Bomb Plot

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 19, 2019 06:44 PM (BqBId)

223 BREAKING: Dominican Republic lead prosecutor says shooting of ex-Red Sox slugger David Ortiz was result of mistaken identity - AP
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 19, 2019 06:31 PM


I thought it was about the DH rule.

Posted by: dantesed at June 19, 2019 06:44 PM (88xKn)

224
Better question: When is a cello "phallic?"

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 19, 2019 06:44 PM (5TrFX)

225 Just focus on the " Paradise" part......
Posted by: kraken at June 19, 2019 06:41 PM (90T4r)

Good point.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2019 06:44 PM (ivkO2)

226 I prefer the ShotInTheJunkOMeter, but de gustibus non est disputandem.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 19, 2019 06:45 PM (a5hgv)

227 Sure, some of them have personal opinions right in line but I think that more of them are afraid.
Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at June 19, 2019 06:40 PM (BD/yx)

This has the ring of truth.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2019 06:42 PM (h2Bdk)

If the issue is simply Fear, that's actually a fairly easy response to figure out. (maybe not as easy to implement, but still)

Someone who operates from a position of fear simply needs to be shown that he needs to be MORE afraid of you than he is afraid of the first bunch. Of course, words won't do for that kind of thing. Lessons need to be taught, harsh, physical, brutal lessons.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2019 06:45 PM (Kpl3J)

228 >>>218 Ace name the company or companies and lets get started with the Boycott....please consider avoiding boycotting companies dealing in booze or sex--there are bridges we need not cross.
Posted by: Voter theater. a

i dunno, we'd need research to figure out what corporations are the bluest serving the reddest, the easiest to hurt. but even then-- conservatives do not like boycotting. they think it's a tactic of the left, and always say "But I don't want to politicize everything," as if it's still 1985, and they haven't noticed that everything has been politicized despite them saying "But I don't want everything politicized!"

and suggesting that someone boycott media/tv? FORGET IT!!!

Posted by: ace at June 19, 2019 06:45 PM (PbpT7)

229 Question: Why is a woman playing a cello so sexy??
Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 19, 2019 06:43 PM (5TrFX)

Prolly something to do with the unladylike way she straddles her instrument.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hate-Filled Lion of the Right at June 19, 2019 06:45 PM (xPJvm)

230 Pffft. Ortiz.

If they had orthoscopic surgery in the '60s and early '70s, we'd be talking about how Rico Carty was the greatest Dominican hitter ever.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 19, 2019 06:46 PM (ETnOl)

231 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 19, 2019 06:38 PM (e0nNm)

Political speech is not protected under discrimination laws.

Race? Yup. Sex? yes. Gender? Many places. Religious beliefs? semi protected.

But political beliefs have no legal protection.

Posted by: Don Q at June 19, 2019 06:46 PM (NgKpN)

232 and cannibals?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 19, 2019 06:43 PM (OX6sG)

Well, I've never actually met a cannibal.....I hope to never meet one except for the ASHQ type.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2019 06:46 PM (ivkO2)

233 "Dominican Republic Tourism Official"

Concentrate on all the tourists who WEREN'T shot, raped, or poisoned last year! Just picture the commercials over baseball season.

MR XAVIERRA : Hey, ese, the DR is pretty sweet, no seriously dawg. All that rich... history, and shit.
MRS XAVIERRA: *bleeds from ears*
MR XAVIERRA : *looks over, a little worried* That little thing? Naw holmes, that ain't nothin'. Think she got it on the plane. Now *Delta* mang, just -

*sudden fadeout to stock footage of lush Dominican rainforest*

Come to the Dominican Republic. We're still not Haiti.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 19, 2019 06:46 PM (ykYG2)

234 Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2019 06:33 PM (Kpl3J)

See my remarks concerning investigations up at 191. And just fo rthe purposes of discussion, let's just assume for a moment that the Senate is hamstrung by Nancy Palsy's House. So what if monopoly busting legislation hangs up in the House? Let the asshats there worry about it in the next election, and put that monkey on the back where it belongs. The point is to take some action not just pay lip service.

You asked what he could do, I answered you. Can you provide an example of something actionable that Cotton could do?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 19, 2019 06:47 PM (e0nNm)

235 Fear of Leftism and Islam is the doom of civilization

Posted by: Skip at June 19, 2019 06:47 PM (BbGew)

236 My reasoning was that I found it offensive as a Christian and they were making me feel unsafe. I also mentioned if they were going to allow that type of email, then they had to give equal time to the opposing view or the general Christian faith. "Why can't we have an email supporting Holy Month running up into Christmas and the Chriatening?

---------

1. wow.
2. good for you.
3. sure sounds like a hostile environment.

but what if, even though I'm a Christian, I just don't wanna get the ghey shitz from corporate because I oppose the gheying of america?

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 19, 2019 06:47 PM (JziUy)

237 checkout Lola Astranova ! Piano Player who wears barely there dresses & is Killer

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 19, 2019 06:47 PM (BqBId)

238 Question: Why is a woman playing a cello so sexy??
Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 19, 2019 06:43 PM (5TrFX)
---
Trigglypuff playing the cello.

There's your answer, it isn't.

Posted by: Axeman at June 19, 2019 06:47 PM (DuZls)

239

Ace, here's an old French tune:

What's she singing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTP246fnKAI

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 19, 2019 06:47 PM (5TrFX)

240 With this sort of an insane notion of "liability" no one is ever safe
in this society. And juries are happy to return judgments of $47.32
trillion dollars for someone who cut his nose off with a hack saw
because there was no warning on the blade not to cut ones nose with it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 19, 2019 06:32 PM (weya0)

*looks at big Eyetalian nose*

just out of curiosity, what do you think someone would get if they... say.. took off a 1/4 inch?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 19, 2019 06:48 PM (OX6sG)

241 Yeah well I've been a Calvinist almost my entire life, and I'm in the same boat. If I make it to paradise, its gonna be by the skin of my teeth, barely. I'll be the guy out back of the mansions Jesus is preparing for others more deserving, digging ditches and living in a grass hut.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:33 PM (39g3+)

I've never quite seen the point of Calvinism. If we're all powerless even to believe, what is the point of the exercise? Just shazam us all to the after-life where ever that will be and call it good.

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at June 19, 2019 06:48 PM (BD/yx)

242 i dunno, we'd need research to figure out what corporations are the bluest serving the reddest, the easiest to hurt. but even then-- conservatives do not like boycotting. they think it's a tactic of the left, and always say "But I don't want to politicize everything," as if it's still 1985, and they haven't noticed that everything has been politicized despite them saying "But I don't want everything politicized!"

--------------

has any boycott actually worked, on either side?

I mean, we know corporations fold from spammed twitted complaints.

but has any company actually been boycotted by left/right ever and they felt the hit? I mean, aside from tranny target.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 19, 2019 06:48 PM (JziUy)

243 Prolly something to do with the unladylike way she straddles her instrument.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hate-Filled Lion of the Right at June 19, 2019 06:45 PM (xPJvm)

ASSUME THE POSITION!

NOW, THE INSTRUMENT OF OBEDIENCE!

Posted by: Archer at June 19, 2019 06:48 PM (gmo/4)

244 I think a baby step would be easy to achieve for people. All conservatives boycott social media one day a week. Pick one, say, Sunday, and just don't post or visit any social media site that day. Just one day a week.

EVERYONE.

One day off, a vacation from social media, that's not so much to ask, is it? One day. No pinterest, no instagram, no twitter, no mewe, no facebook, youtube, gab, none of them. Don't even go to the site.

And make it well-known. Give it a name, like Social Media Sabbath or something catchier. Take that day off, everyone, and make sure social media businesses understand that's what is happening.

Could even extend it to other things, like television, streaming, and movies. One day.

Surely we can manage one day, right?

Because if we ALL did it... that would be noticable on their instant-reporting data. A big trough in the chart, each week. And that might get somewhere in their brains: wow there's a lot of them and they're letting us know....

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:48 PM (39g3+)

245

What's a Kalimba?

Game Of Thrones theme played by oriental on a kalimba:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzSeCOOlGis

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 19, 2019 06:49 PM (5TrFX)

246 Lee Harvey Oswald just fapped to the Daily Worker until the blisters made him stop. Temporatily.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 19, 2019 06:49 PM (a5hgv)

247 Okay, I'm seriously frutrated with Etsy right now. They have been working all days on stats... supposedly.. still showing zero visits and zero views. AND AND.. they decided to throw their little orange ball icon up in shop manager for what end I have no idea. (Little orange icon in shop manager means you have a sale). I did not have a sale. Assholes. *sigh* I need my own website.

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 19, 2019 06:49 PM (dUJdY)

248 I'm thinking PBJ sammiches for dinner.

Posted by: Weasel at June 19, 2019 06:49 PM (MVjcR)

249 If Biden stays on this trajectory he is going to be dust by September.

How can people say he's the most electable when he has never gotten any traction outside Delaware and he seems to enjoy stepping on his crank?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2019 06:49 PM (PxX58)

250 That is actually a big f'n deal. Twitter has just officially announced that they are going to enforce the Blasphemy Laws of every Islamic State on Earth.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2019 06:42 PM (Kpl3J)

Buy Gab stock!

Posted by: Tami at June 19, 2019 06:49 PM (cF8AT)

251 Well, I've never actually met a cannibal.....I hope to never meet one except for the ASHQ type.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2019 06:46 PM (ivkO2)

. love ya babe.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 19, 2019 06:49 PM (OX6sG)

252 The pizza looks...okay. But it is a stupid shape. Unless it's a Sicilian or a Detroit pizza...it better be round.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

What's a Detroit Pizza ?

Is it covered in trash and set on fire ?

Posted by: JT at June 19, 2019 06:49 PM (kC/cK)

253 Posted by: Marcus T at June 19, 2019 06:39 PM (VkWRL)

I think you handled it very well.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2019 06:49 PM (ivkO2)

254 I've never quite seen the point of Calvinism. If we're all powerless even to believe, what is the point of the exercise?

We believe as a response, God isn't helplessly waiting for us with hands wringing and weeping. He does the work, and we respond, like someone being resuscitated starts breathing.

Remember, its not about what we like or what makes sense or what seems best to us. Its about what is TRUE.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:50 PM (39g3+)

255 I did stop using Gillette and I'm glad I did.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 19, 2019 06:50 PM (faSfa)

256
Fear of Leftism and Islam is the doom of civilization

Posted by: Skip


Who wants to bet left nuts that "fear of leftism" will be the next -phobia?

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 19, 2019 06:50 PM (5TrFX)

257 You might think a company CEO by definition would understand that, and not be the pitiful, weak bastions of bias making piss poor decisions that are not only bad for the company, but display terrible judgment based on nothing but pathos.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 19, 2019 06:39 PM (VkWRL)

Maximizing profit is no longer The Prime Directive.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 06:50 PM (YTwfq)

258 actually, even gillette and target weren't boycotts, they were just a drop in sales.

I think the way to go is probably sue in red states, or everywhere, who knows what juries in blue states are actually like. If it's filled with our "naturally conservative brown friends who always vote democrat" maybe they're more easily offended about anti-Jesus stuff. Get them verdicts, get the change you want.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 19, 2019 06:51 PM (JziUy)

259 they think it's a tactic of the left, and always say "But I don't want to politicize everything," as if it's still 1985, and they haven't noticed that everything has been politicized despite them saying "But I don't want everything politicized!"

and suggesting that someone boycott media/tv? FORGET IT!!!

Posted by: ace at June 19, 2019 06:45 PM (PbpT7)


I suspect abortion advocacy is the last straw for a lot of people.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2019 06:51 PM (h2Bdk)

260 Seems like Cotton (or anyone else who's been silenced for that matter) could lodge a compliant within the appropriate jurisdiction, provide some evidence and claim discrimination based on political speech and ask for an investigation. Hell, launch a lawsuit and let slip the dogs of lawfare war.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 19, 2019 06:38 PM (e0nNm)

How has Cotton been silenced? We're reading his words right now. Also, the Supreme Court this week just affirmed that the 1st Amendment ONLY applies to Government, it does not apply to any private parties in any circumstances.

As Don Q. noted, discrimination for political speech by non governmental bodies is NOT illegal.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2019 06:51 PM (Kpl3J)

261 But political beliefs have no legal protection.

Posted by: Don Q at June 19, 2019 06:46 PM (NgKpN)

Sorry. The first amendment seems to indicate otherwise. The Masters of the Universe (and I use that moniker in the most derisive and sarcastic manner) and some Hawaiian judge may have a differing opinion.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 19, 2019 06:51 PM (e0nNm)

262 I too stopped using Gillette.

Posted by: Archer at June 19, 2019 06:51 PM (gmo/4)

263 http://bit.ly/2ZAyrAm
*********
Lola Astanova

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 19, 2019 06:51 PM (BqBId)

264 Maximizing profit is no longer The Prime Directive.

I think its more they realize that they have reached a point where they cannot make everyone happy and are just trying to gamble on what will make the largest group happy while retaining the largest number of unhappy consumers.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:51 PM (39g3+)

265
Old French Whore perfume

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 19, 2019 06:51 PM (5TrFX)

266 After Dick's pulled their dick on the Second Amendment, I never went back. We also had a local kids baseball team going there. They stopped also.

When Dick's started this SJW they had a major expansion into Texas. How do you think that worked out? Yep, it hurts sales overall and in those stores.

The CEO proudly says he knows it will continue to hurt business but he has to "do the right thing". Nope. His concern is the bottom line and the fact there are not numerous shareholder lawsuits is a mystery.

So f them. May Dick's die.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 19, 2019 06:52 PM (VkWRL)

267 I too stopped using gilette but I have an enemies list that grows and grows.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 19, 2019 06:52 PM (JziUy)

268 Lola definitely has some long legs

Posted by: Skip at June 19, 2019 06:52 PM (BbGew)

269 Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 19, 2019 06:49 PM (OX6sG)

Really, I think you'd suck at being a cannibal (No pun intended, It's not like sucking on BBQed human bones because you are too decent of a guy but "decent, nice Bob" doesn't have the same panache as a handle as "Cannibal Bob" does .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2019 06:52 PM (ivkO2)

270
When I was a kid, the adult men would say "you smell an old french whore" any time another guy was wearing cologne.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 19, 2019 06:52 PM (5TrFX)

271 "So, in order to do business in places like Pakistan, or China, they must 'censor' the views of the US Right. Real issue is our own government will not protect OUR (the US's) Rights" Posted by: Don Q

I hadn't thought of that angle ... but most revenue is out of the West, probably most from the US ...


But to get access to China, they even offer to sell the means of the social credit fascism. While the people want freedom ... so again, they are acting against what shareholders would want (liberty) ... which should be part of the equation ... but Corporate America decided in the 80s that ONLY the bottom line mattered.


imo though, they have a globalist agenda that is being enforced, which is above profit or corporate market share. This is their vehicle for New World Order dominance over sovereign countries. (CFR type meetings).

Posted by: illiniwek at June 19, 2019 06:52 PM (Cus5s)

272
- "Mastermind" behind the Assassin's plot
- confuses and shoots very large most famous Red Sox baseball player instead intended target

What did Disney mean by this?

Posted by: d ortiz at June 19, 2019 06:53 PM (xTFXi)

273 I've dumped Gillette, and Dicks

Posted by: Skip at June 19, 2019 06:53 PM (BbGew)

274 there's a meme...I got to find it but:

ad person (probably from free the bid) is showing story board with interracial gay kissing, graphic.

the burger guy goes, "so how does this help us sell burgers?"

and the ad person goes "burgers?"

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 19, 2019 06:53 PM (JziUy)

275 So apparently they picked the wrong designated hitter.
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 19, 2019 06:39 PM

C'mon, nothing for that? Alright. Well off to do some productive type things.
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 19, 2019 06:42 PM (H4VdJ)

Don't feel bad.

Most of the time I'm talking to myself on here seems like.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 06:53 PM (YTwfq)

276 On fairness, I wasn't familiar with about 98% of those so called companies.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 19, 2019 06:54 PM (VkWRL)

277 249 If Biden stays on this trajectory he is going to be dust by September.

How can people say he's the most electable when he has never gotten any traction outside Delaware and he seems to enjoy stepping on his crank?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2019 06:49 PM (PxX5


They think he can just pretend to be a little conservative, like Obama did. Remember Obama was "against" gay marriage during the campaign? But Joe's been around too long - no matter what he does there will always be someone in the back who asks "Hey, if you feel that way, why did you sponsor legislation to do the opposite?"

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2019 06:54 PM (h2Bdk)

278 Not all, of course. The guy that killed Indira Gandhi had been drinking Famous Grouse.

No word on Lee Harvey Oswald.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,

He was listening to "Patsy" Cline !

Posted by: JT at June 19, 2019 06:54 PM (kC/cK)

279 "What's a Detroit Pizza ?

Is it covered in trash and set on fire ?

Posted by: JT at June 19, 2019 06:49 PM (kC/c"



Might as well be.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 19, 2019 06:54 PM (a5hgv)

280 Remember, don't just stop with Gillette. Do it to every Proctor and Gamble product. And if you happen to get one of those surveys from Colgate Palmolive, Unilever, SC Johnson et. al., about their products, tell them why you stopped using P&G and starting using their brand instead.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 19, 2019 06:54 PM (ujg0T)

281 Some boycotts are easy to pull off. Never going to Target again was hardly a sacrifice, I barely went there to begin with. I don't use Gillette products already. I don't like football so I never watch the NFL unless someone else has it on and I walk by.

Others cost a bit more. Like giving up television stations, such as History, which has several shows I like a lot. Can I live without watching Forged in Fire and The Butcher? Easily. But I'd really rather not if I can.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:54 PM (39g3+)

282 Sorry. The first amendment seems to indicate otherwise. The Masters of the Universe (and I use that moniker in the most derisive and sarcastic manner) and some Hawaiian judge may have a differing opinion.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 19, 2019 06:51 PM (e0nNm)

the Supremes, just this week, said that the First ONLY applies to the Government.

Now, personally I think its the Governments DUTY to protect our rights, but they have deemed differently.

Posted by: Don Q at June 19, 2019 06:55 PM (NgKpN)

283 BREAKING: Dominican Republic lead prosecutor says shooting of ex-Red Sox slugger David Ortiz was result of mistaken identity - AP
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 19, 2019 06:31 PM


I thought it was about the DH rule.
Posted by: dantesed at June 19, 2019 06:44 PM (88xKn)

I thought it was a roundabout way of saying they all look the same.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 06:55 PM (YTwfq)

284 Re:Calvanism

I'm reading an interesting book about the beginning of science in the 1600s, back before science was a word for science. Maybe not even a word at all. It touches on religion, of course, and how the two walked together at the time.

I need to learn more about religion of that time, but apparently EVERYONE was going to Hell.

Posted by: Have I Told You Where I Like to Cram My Junk? at June 19, 2019 06:55 PM (mZ/17)

285 On the inside, you must toe the party line. No one with a family and mortgage dares to speak up.

Posted by: Caliban at June 19, 2019 06:56 PM (QE8X6)

286 218 Ace name the company or companies and lets get started with the Boycott....please consider avoiding boycotting companies dealing in booze or sex--there are bridges we need not cross.
Posted by: Voter theater. a

i dunno, we'd need research to figure out what corporations are the bluest serving the reddest, the easiest to hurt. but even then-- conservatives do not like boycotting. they think it's a tactic of the left, and always say "But I don't want to politicize everything," as if it's still 1985, and they haven't noticed that everything has been politicized despite them saying "But I don't want everything politicized!"

and suggesting that someone boycott media/tv? FORGET IT!!!

Posted by: ace at June 19, 2019 06:45 PM (PbpT7)

Start with Disney. That's an easy one.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 06:57 PM (YTwfq)

287 I'm reading an interesting book about the beginning of science in the 1600s, back before science was a word for science. Maybe not even a word at all. It touches on religion, of course, and how the two walked together at the time.

Science and Christianity walk hand in hand very comfortably, its only when science or Christianity go beyond their proper spheres that they start to clash. Scientists trying to explain metaphysics, for example, causes a clash because they're not doing science any longer.

Both are inductive reasoning: take the data available and reach the most likely conclusion based on the evidence at hand.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:57 PM (39g3+)

288 As Don Q. noted, discrimination for political speech by non governmental bodies is NOT illegal.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2019 06:51 PM (Kpl3J)

We consider it legal. I'm just not so sure. After all, people (courts) have used the Constitution to punish private citizens and businesses for all sorts of discrimination and violation of civil rights. So clearly it's not just the government that the rules must be applied to.

And while I might be libertarian enough to support the notion of an extreme understanding of our right to freely associate *or not* for any reason, our courts and current law specifically disagree.

So the question isn't if it's the State or a Private business but if it's a civil right or not. And I don't see any real way that rights specifically listed in the Constitution wouldn't apply, even if we haven't applied them yet.

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at June 19, 2019 06:57 PM (BD/yx)

289 "274 there's a meme...I got to find it but:

ad person (probably from free the bid) is showing story board with interracial gay kissing, graphic.

the burger guy goes, "so how does this help us sell burgers?"

and the ad person goes "burgers?"

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 19, 2019 06:53 PM (JziUy) "




That's probably pretty close to the reality of it.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 19, 2019 06:57 PM (a5hgv)

290 273 I've dumped Gillette, and Dicks
Posted by: Skip at June 19, 2019 06:53 PM (BbGew)


I suspect most razors get bought by women. Either for themselves, or shopping for the family. And I suspect that ad didn't hurt them.

With Dick's... I have no idea what that guy was thinking.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2019 06:57 PM (h2Bdk)

291 "Sorry. The first amendment seems to indicate otherwise"

As Scalia, would have said, Read the actual amendment. "Congress shall make no law..."

People talk about the Bill of Rights incorrectly all the time, and it leads to incorrect thinking about what those rights are.
We do NOT have a "Right of Free Speech".
We have the Right to NOT Have any Laws passed by Government which would restrict our speech.
BUT if anybody else doesn't want to let us speak on their dime, or on their property, and they're not part of the Government, well that's just too bad for us. Our only choice if we don't like it is to stay away from them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2019 06:58 PM (Kpl3J)

292 Most of the time I'm talking to myself on here seems like.

lol.. I think many of us have felt that way. You can't take it personally. Well, you can but why?

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 19, 2019 06:58 PM (dUJdY)

293 Question: Why is a woman playing a cello so sexy??
Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 19, 2019 06:43 PM (5TrFX)

Prolly something to do with the unladylike way she straddles her instrument.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hate-Filled Lion of the Right at June 19, 2019 06:45 PM (xPJvm)

And how much she enjoys something long and hard between her legs.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 06:58 PM (YTwfq)

294 That's probably pretty close to the reality of it.

---

if there's a shit sjw ad, it's probably a free-the-bid product. FTB is a grrlpower thing to give traditionally underrepresented women who are horrible a chance to lecture people outside their family. sponsored by big biz of course. Corporations never help with Jesus/Guns/America charities.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 19, 2019 06:59 PM (JziUy)

295 >>They think he can just pretend to be a little conservative, like Obama did. Remember Obama was "against" gay marriage during the campaign? But Joe's been around too long - no matter what he does there will always be someone in the back who asks "Hey, if you feel that way, why did you sponsor legislation to do the opposite?"

But he's having to flip on positions he's held for decades just to be acceptable in the primary like the Hyde Amendment. I can't believe there are more than a handful of people convinced by this kind of flipping and I bet it will piss off a lot at the same time.

Not to mention he is a gaffe machine. It seems he is not capable of stopping. He has the worst political instincts I've ever seen.

Just today he praised a former politician who was an ardent segregationist because he was able to work with him to pass legislation. He makes this announcement while they are holding reparations hearings and the rest of the party is pandering their asses off.

He's just a blockhead.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2019 06:59 PM (PxX58)

296 Science and Christianity walk hand in hand very comfortably, its only when science or Christianity go beyond their proper spheres that they start to clash. Scientists trying to explain metaphysics, for example, causes a clash because they're not doing science any longer.

-

Yeah but this was back during the plague*, and when people believed comets were man's sins burning up in the atmosphere.

Posted by: Have I Told You Where I Like to Cram My Junk? at June 19, 2019 06:59 PM (mZ/17)

297 the Supremes, just this week, said that the First ONLY applies to the Government.

Could you provide a link to the decision that supports that assertion?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 19, 2019 07:00 PM (e0nNm)

298 That's probably pretty close to the reality of it.

Ad companies aren't making ads to sell products any longer. They make ads to sell their ad company and win awards. I'm convinced of it. Almost no ads actually pitch any product or even help you remember the name of the company they are allegedly promoting. I can remember dozens of ads I enjoyed but almost none of the businesses that they're supposedly for.

Pop Quiz: what company has an advertisement campaign with people standing on the dock with the statue of liberty behind them?

What company has an advertising campaign featuring a black guy who has the answers for people's questions?

They aren't promoting the businesses. They are promoting their bitchen ads.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 07:00 PM (39g3+)

299 So the question isn't if it's the State or a Private business but if it's a civil right or not. And I don't see any real way that rights specifically listed in the Constitution wouldn't apply, even if we haven't applied them yet.
Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at June 19, 2019 06:57 PM (BD/yx)

Our current Federal Government wants it both ways.

They want the Power to decide, but don't want the DUTY to protect those rights.

And the Supreme Court itself has painted itself into this corner.

Posted by: Don Q at June 19, 2019 07:00 PM (NgKpN)

300 I imagine this statement gave the folks at National Bulkhead Review a major case of The Vapors and sent them to their fainting couches.

Posted by: I Have Questions at June 19, 2019 07:01 PM (BvNzB)

301 290 273 I've dumped Gillette, and Dicks
Posted by: Skip at June 19, 2019 06:53 PM (BbGew)

I suspect most razors get bought by women. Either for themselves, or shopping for the family. And I suspect that ad didn't hurt them.

With Dick's... I have no idea what that guy was thinking.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2019 06:57 PM (h2Bdk)



Unfortunately, with Gillette (Proctor and Gamble, don't forget that), I could see all too many lady buyers seeing that propagandist advert but thinking that since their men are not like that, no problem.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 19, 2019 07:01 PM (ujg0T)

302
* apparently the doctors in England had decided pets were the problem, and the king ordered them to all be killed.

Guess what was barely keeping the rat population in check?

Posted by: Have I Told You Where I Like to Cram My Junk? at June 19, 2019 07:01 PM (mZ/17)

303 287 I'm reading an interesting book about the beginning of science in the 1600s, back before science was a word for science. Maybe not even a word at all. It touches on religion, of course, and how the two walked together at the time.

Science and Christianity walk hand in hand very comfortably, its only when science or Christianity go beyond their proper spheres that they start to clash. Scientists trying to explain metaphysics, for example, causes a clash because they're not doing science any longer.

Both are inductive reasoning: take the data available and reach the most likely conclusion based on the evidence at hand.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 06:57 PM (39g3+)


Science and religion are two completely different disciplines and do not contradict each other. Science seeks to explain how we're here or the "what" of existence, religion seeks to explain "why" we're here or the purpose of our existence.


Posted by: dagny at June 19, 2019 07:01 PM (nRWPy)

304 0 I imagine this statement gave the folks at National Bulkhead Review a major case of The Vapors and sent them to their fainting couches.
******
did it have them Turning Japanese ?

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 19, 2019 07:02 PM (BqBId)

305 Most of the time I'm talking to myself on here seems like.
.........

Same here, but I crack myself up so it's OK.

Posted by: wth at June 19, 2019 07:02 PM (v0R5T)

306 Gillette is getting absolutely flattened by the nonsense they pulled.

That market was becoming more competitive already. If any shareholder lawsuit has merit, it's that one.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 19, 2019 07:02 PM (VkWRL)

307 "Dominican Republic lead prosecutor says shooting of ex-Red Sox slugger David Ortiz was result of mistaken identity"

I would imagine David Ortiz could buy the Dominican Republic and kick everyone else out.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 19, 2019 07:02 PM (qgh3L)

308 *looks at big Eyetalian nose*

just out of curiosity, what do you think someone would get if they... say.. took off a 1/4 inch?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 19, 2019 06:48 PM


I can't believe you're serious with this question. A 1/4 inch section of a nose tip wouldn't even be an hors d'oeuvre for you.

But assuming you're serious, the answer is ten bucks, same as in town.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 19, 2019 07:02 PM (pfuwb)

309 We do NOT have a "Right of Free Speech".
We have the Right to NOT Have any Laws passed by Government which would restrict our speech.


That's not exactly accurate, but I understand what you're trying to say.

We have the RIGHT to free speech, but the first amendment doesn't create that. It merely requires the government to not interfere with that right.

Rights are innate and inalieanble: they are part of being human and cannot be taken away. Even if you are gagged and silenced, you still have the RIGHT to free speech. You're just being unlawfully and wickedly prevented from expressing that right.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 07:02 PM (39g3+)

310 Well, I've never actually met a cannibal.....I hope to never meet one except for the ASHQ type.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2019 06:46 PM (ivkO2)

You would've enjoyed watching us all drool standing around that fancy pig smoker at last year's CenTexMoMee.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 07:03 PM (YTwfq)

311 But he's having to flip on positions he's held for decades just to be acceptable in the primary like the Hyde Amendment. I can't believe there are more than a handful of people convinced by this kind of flipping and I bet it will piss off a lot at the same time.

That, in a nutshell, is why I don't believe he will ever be president. Even if he gets the nod from the Democrats, it will be too easy to run targeted ads and turn slices of the Democratic constituency into apathetic voters. They may not vote for a Republican, but they won't go to the polls if it's raining, either.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2019 07:03 PM (h2Bdk)

312 We consider it legal. I'm just not so sure. After all, people (courts) have used the Constitution to punish private citizens and businesses for all sorts of discrimination and violation of civil rights. So clearly it's not just the government that the rules must be applied to."

What they've used is the controversial Civil Rights Act of 1964, which went to the Supreme Court and was held to be Constitutional (meaning arguing that point is now moot) BUT that only banned Discrimination on the basis of Race, Sex, Religion, and National Origin. Later on we added Age and we're currently arguing about Sexual Preference.

But Discrimination is allowed for everything outside of those narrowly defined protected classes.

You can argue that we made a huge mistake in 1964 by creating Classes of Protected Citizens and Unprotected Citizens, but here we are.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2019 07:03 PM (Kpl3J)

313 Twitter is certainly not American in spirit, nor in action.


My choice is to let them burn.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 19, 2019 07:04 PM (sy5kK)

314 Hey CB.

Posted by: SMH at June 19, 2019 07:04 PM (RU4sa)

315 Science and religion are two completely different disciplines and do not contradict each other. Science seeks to explain how we're here or the "what" of existence, religion seeks to explain "why" we're here or the purpose of our existence.

-

Again, this was back when there was no "science" as we know it.

Posted by: Have I Told You Where I Like to Cram My Junk? at June 19, 2019 07:04 PM (mZ/17)

316 And the part I never knew was that we were all doomed to hell back then.

Posted by: Have I Told You Where I Like to Cram My Junk? at June 19, 2019 07:05 PM (mZ/17)

317 May Dick's die.

Nooooooooo!

Posted by: Sandra Flook at June 19, 2019 07:05 PM (EgshT)

318 Could you provide a link to the decision that supports that assertion?
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 19, 2019 07:00 PM (e0nNm)


Weird, tinyurl down for me.

so take out spaces at line feeds.

https://www.scotusblog.com/case-

files/cases/

manhattan-community-access-corp-v-halleck/

Posted by: Don Q at June 19, 2019 07:05 PM (NgKpN)

319 But he's having to flip on positions he's held for decades just to be acceptable in the primary like the Hyde Amendment. I can't believe there are more than a handful of people convinced by this kind of flipping and I bet it will piss off a lot at the same time.

Not to mention he is a gaffe machine. It seems he is not capable of stopping. He has the worst political instincts I've ever seen.

Just today he praised a former politician who was an ardent segregationist because he was able to work with him to pass legislation. He makes this announcement while they are holding reparations hearings and the rest of the party is pandering their asses off.

He's just a blockhead.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2019 06:59 PM (PxX5


But he's the only one with a dog's chance of winning the white male blue collar vote, the one they needed in 2016 and didn't get.

Quite the conundrum for the Reds, yes?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 19, 2019 07:05 PM (qgh3L)

320 I did stop using Gillette and I'm glad I did.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 19, 2019 06:50 PM (faSfa)

Gillette is owned by Proctor and Gamble.

Now you need to move on to the rest of P&G's products.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 07:05 PM (YTwfq)

321 "Steven Crowder got notification from Twitter that they have received 'official correspondence' about his Twitter acct.

Apparently, something in one of his tweets is in violation of....Pakistan law."

- - - - - - - -

Hmmm, Pakistan law applicable, Vatican law irrelevant.

So Islam good, all other faiths bad?

People are taking note.

Posted by: Decaf at June 19, 2019 07:05 PM (PUz4C)

322 You can argue that we made a huge mistake in 1964 by creating Classes of Protected Citizens and Unprotected Citizens, but here we are.

Well that was one of those incremental Stare Decis arguments where the principle that the government has a responsibility to protect the public, and that the public is damaged by ill will toward certain groups, so the government has a responsibility to protect these groups and... well anyway.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 07:05 PM (39g3+)

323 Question: Why is a woman playing a cello so sexy??

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 19, 2019 06:43 PM (5TrFX)
..........

It's 2:00 am?
The tuba player is really a man?
She's got to manspread that thing?

Posted by: wth at June 19, 2019 07:05 PM (v0R5T)

324 I love dumpster diving at least to look for scrap metal. Was at a old age home and in the dumpster was all kinds of stainless steel wear, the long containers for self serving and all kinds of small bowls.
Grabbed a nice one maybe for my cat on a pedestal. Oneida 18/8 stainless steel.
Should have grabbed a couple

Posted by: Skip at June 19, 2019 07:05 PM (BbGew)

325 With Dick's... I have no idea what that guy was thinking.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2019 06:57 PM (h2Bdk)


Meh. You get caught up in the moment.

Posted by: Yeti -- The World's Most Over-Priced Ice Chests at June 19, 2019 07:06 PM (Mouru)

326 The State wants the power over life and death and everything in between. It has always been thus. The Great Experiment was an attempt to make the people the sovereign in the hope that the people who choose to not oppress themselves. But alas, the people seem only too eager to oppress themselves in the hopes of not having to take responsibility. It takes a special kind of person willing to give up being taken care of and being willing to bear his own life burdens.

Posted by: dagny at June 19, 2019 07:07 PM (nRWPy)

327 I really don't get it. Companies spend enormous amounts just to get the "pulse" of what the consumers want in a product - packaging, color, shelving placement, what catches the eye, etc., etc. - and this is the result? Big campaigns to promote and applaud alternate lifestyles? I think not.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 19, 2019 07:07 PM (EjlXc)

328 I don't know much about Tom Cotton, but that was a pretty good statement.

Posted by: rickl at June 19, 2019 07:07 PM (sdi6R)

329 That, in a nutshell, is why I don't believe he will ever be president. Even if he gets the nod from the Democrats, it will be too easy to run targeted ads and turn slices of the Democratic constituency into apathetic voters. They may not vote for a Republican, but they won't go to the polls if it's raining, either.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2019 07:03 PM (h2Bdk)


I agree, and doubt that Biden will ever be elected President. But I suspect that he may well be the nominee, for the reasons cited above.

I just don't see Joe Sixpak going for any of the alternatives.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 19, 2019 07:07 PM (qgh3L)

330 320 I did stop using Gillette and I'm glad I did.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 19, 2019 06:50 PM (faSfa)

Gillette is owned by Proctor and Gamble.

Now you need to move on to the rest of P&G's products.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 07:05 PM (YTwfq)



This bears endless repeating.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 19, 2019 07:07 PM (ujg0T)

331

All my life (67.5 yrs) I've been told corporations are run by conservative right wing men. Did everything do a switcheroo like they say the Republicans and Democrats did back in the 1960's?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 19, 2019 07:07 PM (aKsyK)

332 Now you need to move on to the rest of P&G's products.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 07:05 PM (YTwfq)



I'm not ready to give up Tide Pods. Now that's snacking!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 19, 2019 07:07 PM (Mouru)

333 89 . . . Shareholders suing a corporation for misusing its corporate assets has basically died under the expanding business judgment rule. Judges aren't suddenly going to be allowing these suits just because a lot of CEOs are shooting their mouths off about politics.

There would need to be legislation to change the current rules. And frankly, this would probably need to come from the statehouses rather than from the fed.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)
_________

The business judgment rule is a presumption that a board of directors made even a stupid decision in good faith and with due care.

However, there are a number of states which have attempted to codify the business judgment rule, but (probably unknowingly) have placed the burden on the corporation's directors to show that they exercised due care. So now instead of a court's presumption that a board knew what it was doing, that board has the burden of proving that it knew what it was doing.

Cry havoc and let slip the servers of process.

Posted by: Furious George at June 19, 2019 07:08 PM (9vQJW)

334 Apparently, something in one of his tweets is in violation of....Pakistan law."

He recommended using toilet paper?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 19, 2019 07:08 PM (qgh3L)

335 I guess my Social Media Sabbath idea is a dream too far, too much for people to give up. One day a week is too painful to contemplate.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 07:08 PM (39g3+)

336 I stay out of Target. I don't go to movies that are liberal hogwash.


I do my own boycotting of these monsters.

Posted by: ALH at June 19, 2019 07:08 PM (htgmn)

337 Rights are innate and inalieanble: they are part of being human and cannot be taken away. Even if you are gagged and silenced, you still have the RIGHT to free speech. You're just being unlawfully and wickedly prevented from expressing that right.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 07:02 PM (39g3+)

Natural Law, I understand. But all "Rights" under Natural Law are limited when they come into conflict with the "Rights" of others. For example, I may have the Right of Free Speech, but I don't have the right to go into your house at 3 in the morning and start shouting. (just to provide a ridiculous example) Because that conflicts with YOUR rights.

What we define under Government and Law are those things which we allow our Courts to adjudicate, which are generally those areas where different sets of "rights" conflict. Natural Rights exist outside that framework, but you can't enforce them in a Court of Law.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2019 07:09 PM (Kpl3J)

338 But he's the only one with a dog's chance of winning the white male blue collar vote, the one they needed in 2016 and didn't get.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 19, 2019 07:05 PM


You are too young to be so cynical.

Posted by: The other 19 clowns in the kiddie car at June 19, 2019 07:09 PM (pfuwb)

339 Really, I think you'd suck at being a cannibal (No
pun intended, It's not like sucking on BBQed human bones because you are
too decent of a guy but "decent, nice Bob" doesn't have the same
panache as a handle as "Cannibal Bob" does .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2019 06:52 PM (ivkO2)

Lol! Yes. I went for affect. or effect. hey grammar...whatev.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 19, 2019 07:09 PM (OX6sG)

340 He recommended using toilet paper?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 19, 2019 07:08 PM (qgh3L)
---
Maybe goats aren't for sex?

Posted by: Axeman at June 19, 2019 07:09 PM (DuZls)

341 Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2019 06:58 PM (Kpl3J)

I'm not as smart as Scalia and I'm certainly not a lawyer, but if people do not have a right to free speech, i.e. to express their political beliefs in speech or written word then why would congress be prohibited from making laws that abridge that right?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 19, 2019 07:09 PM (e0nNm)

342 Hey CB.
Posted by: SMH at June 19, 2019 07:04 PM (RU4sa)

Hey young lady!!

*waves*

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 07:10 PM (YTwfq)

343 You would've enjoyed watching us all drool standing around that fancy pig smoker at last year's CenTexMoMee.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 07:03 PM (YTwfq)

Dear me; It was "Long Pig" at the CenTexMommee? You Central Texans are fierce.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2019 07:10 PM (ivkO2)

344 Just remember if you're avoiding certain businesses to keep in mind why. Target was big on tranny bathrooms. Dick's banned guns because NRA is evil. Gillette thinks all white men are monsters and you need to queer up more. Keep this stuff in mind.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 07:10 PM (39g3+)

345 335 I guess my Social Media Sabbath idea is a dream too far, too much for people to give up. One day a week is too painful to contemplate.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 07:08 PM (39g3+)



Maxim to remember: When the app or the online program
does not cost anything, then YOU are the product.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 19, 2019 07:10 PM (ujg0T)

346 327 I really don't get it. Companies spend enormous amounts just to get the "pulse" of what the consumers want in a product - packaging, color, shelving placement, what catches the eye, etc., etc. - and this is the result? Big campaigns to promote and applaud alternate lifestyles? I think not.
Posted by: washrivergal at June 19, 2019 07:07 PM (EjlXc)


That's the basis of ace's argument at comment #37 - that as a shareholder you could sue a corporation's officers and make them show just what market research they used to take the corporation woke. And that if they didn't have any they'd be liable for going beyond the corporation's charter.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2019 07:10 PM (h2Bdk)

347 I stay out of Target.

Me too. Those crackahs think I work there.

Posted by: Mooch at June 19, 2019 07:10 PM (Mouru)

348 soothsayer,

Je Me Suis Fait Tout Petit


Je n'avais jamais ôté mon chapeau
Devant personne

I never used to take off my hat
for anyone

Maintenant je rampe et je fait le beau
Quand elle me sonne


Now I crawl and and I act the gentleman
when she rings me


J'étais chien méchant, elle me fait manger
Dans sa menotte

I used to be a wicked dog, she makes me eat
out of her little hand


J'avais des dents d'loup, je les ai changées
Pour des quenottes

I used to have the teeth of the wolf, now she has changed them into baby teeth

Je m'suis fait tout petit devant une poupée
Qui ferme les yeux quand on la couche

I make myself very small in front of (?) a doll
who closes its eyes when it's laid down

[note: Really it seems like it should be "like a doll" but apparently the lyrics are "devant," in front of. I don't know this usage]

Je m'suis fait tout petit devant une poupée
Qui fait Maman quand on la touche

I make myself very small in front of a doll
who plays mama when it lays it down

J'était dur à cuire, elle m'a converti
La fine mouche

I was hard-boiled, she turned me into
a little fly

That's the basic idea. I have to put up a new post or i'd do more. plus the next verse, I don't know the words/idioms.

Posted by: ace at June 19, 2019 07:10 PM (PbpT7)

349 I wonder if such lawsuits wouldn't be covered under EPLI policies - or even Directors & Officers coverages - in other words - hard to get this to stop unless someone get personally gutted fort it.

Posted by: Boswell at June 19, 2019 07:11 PM (32YRo)

350 Most of the time I'm talking to myself on here seems like.

lol.. I think many of us have felt that way. You can't take it personally. Well, you can but why?
Posted by: Jewells45 at June 19, 2019 06:58 PM (dUJdY)

I freely acknowledge I'm way funnier in my head than I am in real life.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 07:11 PM (YTwfq)

351 Oh Well My Joke went right over the Horde's Head

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 19, 2019 07:11 PM (BqBId)

352 the song is Je Me Suis Fait Tout Petit if you want to google the english translation.

Posted by: ace at June 19, 2019 07:11 PM (PbpT7)

353 But all "Rights" under Natural Law are limited when they come into conflict with the "Rights" of others. For example, I may have the Right of Free Speech, but I don't have the right to go into your house at 3 in the morning and start shouting. (just to provide a ridiculous example) Because that conflicts with YOUR rights.

Kinda. You still have the right, its just understood that the expression of your rights cannot interfere with the proper and vital expression of other people's rights. Your right to property is absolute, but you cannot exercise it in a way that starves me to death, because my right to life is absolute as well.

Rights are in a sort of hierarchy in this understanding: life is paramount, liberty, then property, then expression, etc.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 07:12 PM (39g3+)

354 I've never heard of &Pizza before.

Luckily, I live in SE PA where there is a mom & pop pizza place on every corner.

Posted by: rickl at June 19, 2019 07:12 PM (sdi6R)

355
I make myself very small in front of a doll
who plays mama when it lays it down


That's a heckuva song.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky innacurate lyrics at June 19, 2019 07:12 PM (5TrFX)

356 You are too young to be so cynical.
Posted by: The other 19 clowns in the kiddie car at June 19, 2019 07:09 PM (pfuwb)


LOL.

But seriously, can you imagine pitching Sanders to blue collar workers? Or, God save us, Buttplug? Fauxcahontas? Kamala Sutra? Betoff? (if he comes out of witness protection). Amy "Eats with Comb" Klobuchar? Or any of the other clowns who are all-in on reparations?

I expect that that would be a pretty tough sale.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 19, 2019 07:12 PM (qgh3L)

357 You would've enjoyed watching us all drool standing around that fancy pig smoker at last year's CenTexMoMee.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 07:03 PM (YTwfq)

but hobo right?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 19, 2019 07:12 PM (OX6sG)

358 As Dennis Prager says Fear of the Left is the biggest driving force in society.
But as I wrote a lot I think is Leftists in corporate America in advertising and product development.

Posted by: Skip at June 19, 2019 07:13 PM (BbGew)

359 >>>Je m'suis fait tout petit devant une poupee
Qui fait Maman quand on la touche

I make myself very small in front of a doll
who plays mama when it lays it down

...

this is actually probably

I make myself all small (like) a doll

who goes "mama" when it's touched

Posted by: ace at June 19, 2019 07:13 PM (PbpT7)

360 HBO has an equal proportion of conservatives and liberals? This might be true, but considering most of HBO's values are violently opposed to anything an actual conservative believes, they may have concluded supporting conservatives are retarded.

They may be right.

Posted by: trev006 at June 19, 2019 07:13 PM (AKKkq)

361 who plays mama when it lays it down
---
The Genesis version?

Posted by: Axeman at June 19, 2019 07:13 PM (DuZls)

362 There is probably 450 pizza places between me and rickl.

Posted by: Skip at June 19, 2019 07:14 PM (BbGew)

363 >>All my life (67.5 yrs) I've been told corporations are run by conservative right wing men. Did everything do a switcheroo like they say the Republicans and Democrats did back in the 1960's?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 19, 2019 07:07 PM (aKsyK)

Mythology, and demonization of capital. Actually they are the cultural elite, as everyone know who has ever worked at one. And increasingly so.

Posted by: Caliban at June 19, 2019 07:14 PM (QE8X6)

364 351 Oh Well My Joke went right over the Horde's Head
Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 19, 2019 07:11 PM


IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE MY PASSES GO OVER MY RECEIVERS HEADS SOMETIMES, TOO!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at June 19, 2019 07:14 PM (pfuwb)

365
I don't know much about Tom Cotton, but that was a pretty good statement.
Posted by: rickl

======

There's a lot to know about him. He wrote a letter to the NY Times from Baghdad in 2006 when they blew the anti-terrorist financing secret. Spoiler alert: they never published it.

https://tinyurl.com/y4tumwwk

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 19, 2019 07:14 PM (6NwO6)

366 Good thread here about this issue:
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/
1141398975691579392

Posted by: andycanuck at June 19, 2019 07:14 PM (Dh1wo)

367
298 Pop Quiz: what company has an advertisement campaign with people standing on the dock with the statue of liberty behind them?

liberty mutual

What company has an advertising campaign featuring a black guy who has the answers for people's questions?

don't know what ad you're talking about

Posted by: Anachronda at June 19, 2019 07:15 PM (sGtp+)

368 I would conjecture that any large entity involved in CFR type meetings are actually conspiring (racketeering?) against the sovereignty of the USA and against its citizens. CFR funds family of anyone in power in DC, and pushes influence for a globalist agenda that is corporate and seditious against the intents of the US constitution.


On a smaller scale (I guess) is when entities like Chase/FB/Goog/Paypal act together against the financial interests of conservatives that gain a certain level of political momentum. They seem to have a blacklist, and cut off the dominant means of internet business if it does not serve them.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 19, 2019 07:15 PM (Cus5s)

369 I can't believe you're serious with this question. A 1/4 inch section of a nose tip wouldn't even be an hors d'oeuvre for you.



But assuming you're serious, the answer is ten bucks, same as in town.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 19, 2019 07:02 PM (pfuwb)

Lol. I see your "ten bucks" and raise you "and deep too".

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 19, 2019 07:15 PM (OX6sG)

370 Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2019 07:09 PM (Kpl3J)

Actually, you your example the rights do not conflict.

You have the right to free speech, but you do not have the right to be on my property.

The real problem IMO is the diluting of what a Right actually is.

Like, there is no Natural Right to vote. Voting is a POWER given to you, through our form of Government. Without us being a Representative Republic, there would be no vote at all.

But once they conflated Powers, with Rights, it opened a Pandora's Box to where ANY Power, can be made into a Right, by Judicial Fiat.

Posted by: Don Q at June 19, 2019 07:16 PM (NgKpN)

371 I freely acknowledge I'm way funnier in my head than I am in real life.

oh, like my husband.

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 19, 2019 07:16 PM (dUJdY)

372 Again, this was back when there was no "science" as we know it.


The Renaissance scientists actually benefited by the thinking of the scholastics who were religious. Thomas Aquinas and others were among the first to suggest that man could know about the world using reason. He then very carefully set up ways to examine subjects and "reason" through them. His argument was that man was made in the image of God and in so being had the faculty of reason which God intended him to use. Without the scholastics, there would have been no Renaissance and no eventual Enlightenment (which was arguably flawed.)

Newton thought that the "ancients" had already developed some of the stuff he was working on, like calculus and that it had just been lost. Strangely he didn't share his work with hardly anyone because he thought everyone was too stupid (a sentiment I find appealing). In fact, Leibnez was also discovering calculus but he didn't have the advantage of Newton's lobbyists and Voltaire went out of his way to discredit Leibnez, that's what Voltaire satirized in Candide.

Posted by: dagny at June 19, 2019 07:16 PM (nRWPy)

373 Posted by: Yeti -- The World's Most Over-Priced Ice Chests at June 19, 2019 07:06 PM (Mouru)

Was out shopping last Friday for my camping trip.

Who the hell pays $300 for a COOLER?????

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 07:16 PM (YTwfq)

374 How could Leftie corporate officers of WOKE corporations have any idea what a conservative considers moral?


They prove every day they have no idea what morality is.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 19, 2019 07:17 PM (sy5kK)

375 Pop Quiz: what company has an advertisement campaign with people standing on the dock with the statue of liberty behind them?

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Brad at June 19, 2019 07:17 PM (pfuwb)

376 What company has an advertising campaign featuring a black guy who has the answers for people's questions?

don't know what ad you're talking about
Posted by: Anachronda at June 19, 2019 07:15 PM (sGtp+)
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I think that's Dennis Haysbert and Allstate. I think.

Posted by: Axeman at June 19, 2019 07:17 PM (DuZls)

377 Oh Well My Joke went right over the Horde's Head

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 19, 2019 07:11 PM (BqBId)
........

Huh?
*looks around*

Posted by: wth at June 19, 2019 07:17 PM (v0R5T)

378 371
I freely acknowledge I'm way funnier in my head than I am in real life.



oh, like my husband.

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 19, 2019 07:16 PM (dUJdY)

LMAO...said every married ette.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 19, 2019 07:17 PM (OX6sG)

379 What company has an advertising campaign featuring a black guy who has the answers for people's questions?

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All of them?

Posted by: josephistan at June 19, 2019 07:17 PM (Izzlo)

380 373 Posted by: Yeti -- The World's Most Over-Priced Ice Chests at June 19, 2019 07:06 PM (Mouru)

Was out shopping last Friday for my camping trip.

Who the hell pays $300 for a COOLER?????
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 07:16 PM (YTwfq)


there are YETI knock-offs out there for half the price.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 19, 2019 07:17 PM (sy5kK)

381 371 I freely acknowledge I'm way funnier in my head than I am in real life.

oh, like my husband.
Posted by: Jewells45 at June 19, 2019 07:16 PM (dUJdY)

Nope, like my husband.

Posted by: dagny at June 19, 2019 07:18 PM (nRWPy)

382 >>I think that's Dennis Haysbert and Allstate. I think.
Posted by: Axeman at June 19, 2019 07:17 PM (DuZls)

PRESIDENT Dennis Haysbert. ("Is that you, Jack?")

Posted by: Caliban at June 19, 2019 07:18 PM (QE8X6)

383 341 Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2019 06:58 PM (Kpl3J)

I'm not as smart as Scalia and I'm certainly not a lawyer, but if people do not have a right to free speech, i.e. to express their political beliefs in speech or written word then why would congress be prohibited from making laws that abridge that right?
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 19, 2019 07:09 PM (e0nNm)


I think that's a valid legal argument, but to make it work you'd have to show your speech really is curbed by corporations. That is, even if you can't post on Twitter, you can post other places, and you could build your own website. You'd have to get the court to rule your other options amount to unacceptable impositions. I don't see that happening.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2019 07:18 PM (h2Bdk)

384 What company has an advertising campaign featuring a black guy who has the answers for people's questions?

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Except for "black". That sounds more like J. K. Simmons in the Farmers' commercials.

Posted by: Axeman at June 19, 2019 07:18 PM (DuZls)

385 >>I would conjecture that any large entity involved in CFR type meetings are actually conspiring (racketeering?) against the sovereignty of the USA and against its citizens. CFR funds family of anyone in power in DC, and pushes influence for a globalist agenda that is corporate and seditious against the intents of the US constitution.

I agree. If you aren't familiar with it, check out the Atlantic Council. Virtually everyone at the senior level involved in the plot to take down Trump, including foreign agents, is involved with the AC.

These organizations are a big part of the Deep State and they are intertwined with foreign globalist players.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2019 07:18 PM (PxX58)

386 Pop Quiz: what company has an advertisement campaign with people standing on the dock with the statue of liberty behind them?

Liberty, duh

Posted by: dagny at June 19, 2019 07:19 PM (nRWPy)

387 oh, like my husband.
Posted by: Jewells45 at June 19, 2019 07:16 PM (dUJdY)

Nope, like my husband.
Posted by: dagny at June 19, 2019 07:18 PM (nRWPy)
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It's good that you like them.

Posted by: Axeman at June 19, 2019 07:19 PM (DuZls)

388 87 Once upon an time I was a card carrying dues paying member of the Libertarian Party.

Then one day 19 assholes stole four airplanes and knocked down a couple of buildings in New York and the Libertarian Party couldn't come up with a solid stand on whether or not military action was justified as a response to it.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at June 19, 2019 06:18 PM (T8A10)


Yep, this right here.

Posted by: rickl at June 19, 2019 07:19 PM (sdi6R)

389 oh, like my husband.

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 19, 2019 07:16 PM (dUJdY)

LMAO...said every married ette.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 19, 2019 07:17 PM (OX6sG)

I am not a jealous man, but when my wife laughs at another man's jokes, I die a little inside.

I tell her eye-rolling is her way of saying "you are the funniest man ever."

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hate-Filled Lion of the Right at June 19, 2019 07:19 PM (xPJvm)

390 Your right to property is absolute, but you cannot exercise it in a way that starves me to death, because my right to life is absolute as well."

Actually, under strict Natural Law standards - if I have food, and you have no money or goods to offer me for it, then I have no obligation whatsoever to provide it to you. In fact I can use force against you if you try to take it from me, even if you're going to die without it and I don't really need it. Strict Natural Law is very Darwinian.

And that's why societies develop religions and governments and laws and social structures, because most people really don't want to live their lives under those strict terms.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2019 07:19 PM (Kpl3J)

391 Again, this was back when there was no "science" as we know it.

Sure, and that's a fascinating time to consider. Alchemy is really interesting because they had an awful lot very right, but misunderstood so many fundamentals it was leading them in very strange places. I personally think that's where we're at with science; the frontiers have been pushed so far that they're probing into areas they understand too little about to even speculate so we get a lot of daffy ideas thrown out there.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 07:20 PM (39g3+)

392 &Pizza?

Never even heard of them.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 19, 2019 07:21 PM (nDe2U)

393 That's the basic idea. I have to put up a new post or i'd do more. plus the next verse, I don't know the words/idioms.

Posted by: ace

Guys and Dolls - its just the same theme:

"Call it sad, call it funny, but you can bet it's even money, that some guy is doing it all for some doll!"


Posted by: Boswell at June 19, 2019 07:21 PM (32YRo)

394 Actually, under strict Natural Law standards - if I have food, and you have no money or goods to offer me for it, then I have no obligation whatsoever to provide it to you.

Correct, but what I was talking about would be someone deliberately using their right of property to prevent someone from making or obtaining food or other basic survival abilities.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 07:21 PM (39g3+)

395 Posted by: wth at June 19, 2019 07:17 PM (v0R5T)
******
someone posted about NRO having The Vapors & I replied with are they Turning Japanese ?

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 19, 2019 07:21 PM (BqBId)

396 359 >>>Je m'suis fait tout petit devant une poupee
Qui fait Maman quand on la touche

I make myself very small in front of a doll
who plays mama when it lays it down

...

this is actually probably

I make myself all small (like) a doll

who goes "mama" when it's touched
Posted by: ace at June 19, 2019 07:13 PM (PbpT7)


Dude, is your French really good enough to translate like that? That's impressive.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2019 07:21 PM (h2Bdk)

397 The same elite judges who determined that federal courts will determine the legal status abortion decided they would be the arbitrators of all sex and gave us homosexual marriage.
Another company, 3M, has sent out an email every year to make sure we are all aware of a "gay pride" march in Minneapolis. This year they are adding a "Rainbow Day" in the company plaza a couple days earlier.
However, because the growth targets were not met and the stock tanked they are in cost cutting mode so we won't have an employee celebration where every fifth year of work starting at 15 we get a meal with the spouse and entertainment from an older musical group. This was my year to sit at the 40 years of service table with the few others still around.
I will never get to sit at the 40 year table but I can go take a picture of clown hair boy in the plaza while he cries, "Look at Me!"

Posted by: FlimFlammed at June 19, 2019 07:22 PM (xpKpV)

398 Newton thought that the "ancients" had already developed some of the stuff he was working on, like calculus and that it had just been lost.

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I've just started learning about that. Crazy jealous and secretive, but convinced other people centuries had already come up with his work.

Also interesting that he likely spent much more time trying to interpret signs and numerology in Revelations than gravity, light, etc.

Posted by: Have I Told You Where I Like to Cram My Junk? at June 19, 2019 07:22 PM (mZ/17)

399 Liberty, duh
Posted by: dagny


Liberty Mutual Insurance. All you can associate is liberty, did you even know what they are selling?

That's my point: the ads aren't promoting the business, just the ads themselves.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 07:22 PM (39g3+)

400 The only time I every truly laughed at him was when his umbrella suddenly opened up when we were in the car. I laughed for the rest of the night.

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 19, 2019 07:23 PM (dUJdY)

401 I am not a jealous man, but when my wife laughs at another man's jokes, I die a little inside.



I tell her eye-rolling is her way of saying "you are the funniest man ever."

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hate-Filled Lion of the Right at June 19, 2019 07:19 PM (xPJvm)

have you tried wearing a clown nose when you tell your jokes? No man could compete with that. Its a killer Pug.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 19, 2019 07:23 PM (OX6sG)

402 Pakistan has toilet paper?

Posted by: Yo! at June 19, 2019 07:23 PM (1XAal)

403 Here's a good look at Senator Hawley's tech bill in about ten tweets...
https://twitter.com/willchamberlain/status/
1141424035785510912

Reading the new big tech censorship bill from @ Hawley Mo right now
It's straight fire

Posted by: andycanuck at June 19, 2019 07:23 PM (Dh1wo)

404 That's the basic idea. I have to put up a new post or i'd do more. plus the next verse, I don't know the words/idioms.

Posted by: ace at June 19, 2019 07:10 PM (PbpT7)

Take your time. Nobody reads them.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 07:23 PM (YTwfq)

405 When Sarah becomes Governor of Arkansas teamed up with Tom Cotton, red isn't going to cover it.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 19, 2019 07:23 PM (AtaaG)

406 if you put ice in a 32 ounce yeti cup, it'll last all day.

i want a white one.

Posted by: trapper's girl at June 19, 2019 07:23 PM (BQJef)

407 Dude, is your French really good enough to translate like that? That's impressive.

Yeah because its not just translation, but it retains a poetic flow that makes the song work.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 07:23 PM (39g3+)

408 Like, there is no Natural Right to vote. Voting is a POWER given to you, through our form of Government. Without us being a Representative Republic, there would be no vote at all.


Correct, voting is your exercising your sovereignty. You 1/350millionth part of being the absolute monarch. (less since we don't allow those under 18 to vote and didn't allow felons). The 1/350millionth of a monarch like any monarch has to fulfill certain qualifications to exercise power and has to be from the fucking country he is reigning over.

Posted by: dagny at June 19, 2019 07:23 PM (nRWPy)

409 My favorite Insurance commercials feature the Mayhem Man. The one where he steals a car is hilarious.

Posted by: ALH at June 19, 2019 07:23 PM (htgmn)

410 Liberty Mutual Insurance. All you can associate is liberty, did you even know what they are selling?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 07:22 PM (39g3+)
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Yes. I did.

Posted by: Axeman at June 19, 2019 07:24 PM (DuZls)

411 Nood socialism

Posted by: G marks the spot at June 19, 2019 07:24 PM (r6yPR)

412 this is actually probably

I make myself all small (like) a doll

who goes "mama" when it's touched
=====

Ace,

Se faire tout petit is to make oneself inconspicuous.

Devant in this instance is the gerund of devenir (to become) so, "becoming a doll"

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 19, 2019 07:24 PM (JcXHH)

413 you put ice in a 32 ounce yeti cup, it'll last all day.

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Just like the $9 Ol' Roy ones at Walmart.

Posted by: Have I Told You Where I Like to Cram My Junk? at June 19, 2019 07:24 PM (mZ/17)

414 400
The only time I every truly laughed at him was when his umbrella
suddenly opened up when we were in the car. I laughed for the rest of
the night.

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 19, 2019 07:23 PM (dUJdY)

Ahem...you mean laughed WITH him?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 19, 2019 07:25 PM (OX6sG)

415 nood

Posted by: andycanuck at June 19, 2019 07:25 PM (Dh1wo)

416 I say that from experience. They'll last 24+ hours easily.

You don't get the cool sticker for your truck window, though.

Posted by: Have I Told You Where I Like to Cram My Junk? at June 19, 2019 07:25 PM (mZ/17)

417 406
if you put ice in a 32 ounce yeti cup, it'll last all day.



i want a white one.

Posted by: trapper's girl at June 19, 2019 07:23 PM (BQJef)

thats racist. just sayin.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 19, 2019 07:26 PM (OX6sG)

418 Correct, but what I was talking about would be someone deliberately using their right of property to prevent someone from making or obtaining food or other basic survival abilities.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 07:21 PM (39g3+)

We can Segue into one of James Madison's favorite movies - that's the theme of Jean de Florette!

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2019 07:26 PM (Kpl3J)

419 Or devenant rather. Autocorrect doesn't like French.

And it's not a gerund. Present participle

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 19, 2019 07:26 PM (JcXHH)

420 400 The only time I every truly laughed at him was when his umbrella suddenly opened up when we were in the car. I laughed for the rest of the night.
Posted by: Jewells45 at June 19, 2019 07:23 PM (dUJdY)


We once got a new computer without a mouse and we were using the navigation pad. I went out and bought a mouse and set it up. I looked in and he was still using the navigation pad, so I said, "There's a mouse." He jumped up and started scanning the floor. I laughed so hard I couldn't get the air to tell him what was funny. Think I hurt some organs.

Posted by: dagny at June 19, 2019 07:26 PM (nRWPy)

421 Pakistan has toilet paper?
Posted by: Yo! at June 19, 2019 07:23 PM

Everyone comes with a left hand don't they?

Posted by: Skip at June 19, 2019 07:27 PM (BbGew)

422 Like, there is no Natural Right to vote. Voting is a POWER given to you, through our form of Government.

Yep. Now government can create rights, but they cannot create natural rights. And government-created rights are only worth the paper they're written on, they only exist until deleted. You cannot base any other policy on these 'rights,' because they can be immediately eliminated.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 19, 2019 07:27 PM (39g3+)

423 Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2019 07:18 PM (h2Bdk)

From what I understand, the argument is that corporations (a broad term to say the least) are denying conservatives the ability to exercise their ability to express their political beliefs via speech, text or video by denying them access to something that they mutually agreed to under the terms of service.

Is that correct?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 19, 2019 07:27 PM (e0nNm)

424 My favorite Insurance commercials feature the Mayhem Man. The one where he steals a car is hilarious.

Posted by: ALH at June 19, 2019 07:23 PM (htgmn)
........

I think that's Madame's husband.

Posted by: wth at June 19, 2019 07:28 PM (v0R5T)

425 Who the hell pays $300 for a COOLER?????
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 07:16 PM (YTwfq)


there are YETI knock-offs out there for half the price.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 19, 2019 07:17 PM (sy5kK)

But they're still selling them. My point is what kind of nut does that??

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at June 19, 2019 07:29 PM (YTwfq)

426 lol Dagny!!

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 19, 2019 07:29 PM (dUJdY)

427 Devant in this instance is the gerund of devenir (to become) so, "becoming a doll"

Posted by: Bicentennialguy

Its a metaphor for curling up in the fetal position like some doll at the touch of a woman.

Posted by: Boswell at June 19, 2019 07:30 PM (32YRo)

428 >>>Dude, is your French really good enough to translate like that? That's impressive.

no, I have to look up words here and there. "Ramper," for example, I have known, but forgot (it's to crawl).

I had to look up "se tenir" because this kind of pronomial verb is idiomatic; while I know what "se" means before a verb in most circumstances, these idiomatic uses cannot be figured out. I should have probably known that one, though.

I did know "Poupee" was doll and that dur a cuire means hard-boiled, though. Dur means hard, and a cuire is what you say when you want your meat cooked well-done. "A point" is medium (at the point) and... I forget what rare is. It might be like sange/bloody or something.

and I knew all the verbs and stuff, the je n'avais jamais and all j'etais.

Those are the continuing past, the past we use when we say "I used to" or "I would..." in the past. Like, "when I was young, I would walk in the woods," quand j'etais petit, je marchais dans le foret"

that's a good conjugation because there are only like three irregular conjugations in it.

I don't get the "devant" in the poupee lyric and wordreference.com doesn't offer any meaning besides those I knew, "before (physically)/in front of."

I think maybe the lyrics might be mis-transcripted?

Posted by: ace at June 19, 2019 07:30 PM (PbpT7)

429 I will never get to sit at the 40 year table but I can go take a picture of clown hair boy in the plaza while he cries, "Look at Me!"
Posted by: FlimFlammed at June 19, 2019 07:22 PM (xpKpV)


When I started my second job the company gave out gold watches to people who'd been there for 35 years. And then if you retired you got something else. A tie clip? Something like that. Plus a big dinner, lots of clapping, stories about the good old days.

By the time I left they were handing out $20 Starbucks gift cards to people on five year anniversaries. They weren't losing money, either. They'd just decided people over 50 shouldn't be encouraged to stay.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2019 07:30 PM (h2Bdk)

430 >>>Devant in this instance is the gerund of devenir (to become) so, "becoming a doll"

Posted by: Bicentennialguy

...

ah, thanks.

Posted by: ace at June 19, 2019 07:31 PM (PbpT7)

431 Oh yes Cannibal Bob.. I meant I was laughing WITH him. (not really, it was funnier than hell)

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 19, 2019 07:31 PM (dUJdY)

432 >>>r devenant rather. Autocorrect doesn't like French.

And it's not a gerund. Present participle

...

ah yes. I should have gotten clued in because under "devant's" main defintions at word reference, they started listing devoir. But I couldn't put it together.

Posted by: ace at June 19, 2019 07:32 PM (PbpT7)

433 >>>Se faire tout petit is to make oneself inconspicuous.

Devant in this instance is the gerund of devenir (to become) so, "becoming a doll"

...

ah okay, well "make myself all small" has the same sort of meaning. Making yourself small = hiding.

Posted by: ace at June 19, 2019 07:33 PM (PbpT7)

434 wait, they listed devoir, not devinir.

i'm confuzenated now.

Posted by: ace at June 19, 2019 07:34 PM (PbpT7)

435 devEnir

Posted by: ace at June 19, 2019 07:34 PM (PbpT7)

436 Show us on the poupee where Sniffin' Uncle Joe touched you.

Posted by: Gitmo Prosecutor at June 19, 2019 07:35 PM (EgshT)

437 I though corporations weren't people and shouldn't have a voice in politics...

Posted by: Mark at June 19, 2019 07:47 PM (KcbLA)

438 I would be more amenable to the libertarian argument regarding corporations if they were willing to stay the fuck out of political meddling.


I first thought this was more Tom Cotton quoting and I was ready to name him a Satrap under Trump.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 19, 2019 07:53 PM (yQpMk)

439 "But of course, this is a democracy,"
Oooh, swing and a miss.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at June 19, 2019 08:00 PM (HOXd0)

440 Choose your boycott target, I'm on it. Anything you pick has probably already pissed me off enough to quit buying it anyway.

Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at June 19, 2019 08:13 PM (1L9V9)

441 So, a stockholder in one of these companies could bring a lawsuit ? Hmm, I do own stocks, and I bet a bunch of other morons do too. Any moron ambulance chasers?

Posted by: Iblis at June 19, 2019 08:18 PM (JmmaM)

442 Maxim to remember: When the app or the online program
does not cost anything, then YOU are the product.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 19, 2019 07:10 PM (ujg0T)

We have Maxim gun, and you have not.

Fuzzy Wuzzy

Posted by: Kipling at June 19, 2019 08:35 PM (4EqBd)

443 Libertarian pundits may not like it, but the conservative critique of corporate power is spreading.
A-**uckin men.
Polygamy Porters all around.

Posted by: Quilp at June 19, 2019 09:37 PM (Bf3hj)

444 Trump has averaged fewer deportations than Obama
In fact Trump in 2017 deported less than 300000
The LOWEST number in 13 years

Posted by: Kurt at June 20, 2019 08:28 AM (qdJUX)

445 It's not like Biden could have *NOT* worked with segregationists, is it, considering he was in the PARTY OF SEGREGATION???

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 20, 2019 02:35 PM (oVJmc)

446 Kurt farted.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 20, 2019 02:36 PM (oVJmc)

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