Mid-Morning Open Thread [Kris]

Cornelia, Mother Of The Gracci, Pointing To Her Children As Her Treasures
Angelica Kauffman

Angelica Kauffman painted at a time when women were heavily restricted from the royal academies, but she showed so much undeniable talent that she was a member of five across Europe. This work is an excellent example of Neoclassicism, a style about heroism, virtue and idealism. It is heavily theatrical and melodramatic. It was the first of two (or second of three depending on who you ask) major artistic expressions of the late Enlightenment period.

For me, the key elements in this work are composition and color. Cornelia dominates the painting, standing just off-center to the right, dressed in white, gold and purple. These three colors have high significance and give her an almost angelic, queenly, noble quality. Farther right, Cornelia holds her young daughter’s hand as she talks with another woman. The girl’s attention is on the shiny objects in the woman’s box. The other woman sits and is earnestly showing off her jewelry. She is also dressed in white and gold but these colors are covered with a vivid red, the color of carnality. Immediately, just by the colors alone, we are given a hint that there is something different about Cornelia.

These three figures are all connected and form one large mass of females. Two boys are to the left. The older boy’s colors mimic his mother’s, linking them and possibly saying that he is the nobler of the two. The younger boy is in red, maybe representing his immaturity. Red on both ends of the composition also frames and unifies the piece further. The younger boy is hunched over, forcing him to look up to his older brother too. This may foreshadow their adulthood when the younger will follow the older into politics and take over after the older is murdered.

A space separates the male and females but Cornelia unifies the groups using her eyes that look to the right and by her gesture towards the boys that draws the viewer’s eye to the left. The eyes swing back and forth across the canvas taking it all in. Cornelia is the tallest form in the painting and as we move to the edges the figures squat, creating a shallow triangle. This may be an homage to Greek pedimental sculpture, but it also makes everyone, including the viewer, look up to Cornelia, literally and figuratively. Kauffman’s attempts to move the eye around the piece while keeping the focus on Cornelia is important because those reds are so bright and dominant. The separation of the sexes may represent the gender expectations in Rome and Kauffman’s time. The boys are holding a book and a scroll signaling their focus on education and the intellect while their sister focuses on emotional and earthly things.

Kauffman is a woman in a profession dominated by men, painting for a female audience. Here, Cornelia is presented as the Ideal Mother, a model for women everywhere. While the other woman and the girl are preoccupied by shiny baubles and shallow things, her priorities are raising good, well-educated, grounded men. The Gracci brothers are known to Roman history as reformers and martyrs, and Kauffman answers the question of where such men come from… they come from good mothers.

[Kris has graciously agreed (after much begging from me), to write an occasional art thread. Look for her name on the headline so you won't be surprised to find actual informed art criticism on these august pages]

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM

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1 Boring.

Posted by: BignJames at June 20, 2019 09:31 AM (ykq7q)

2 Is that the same woman from yesterday?

Posted by: Kat_man at June 20, 2019 09:32 AM (3PbEs)

3 Thanks for the informative and interesting context, Kris.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 20, 2019 09:33 AM (u82oZ)

4 Great work.

Posted by: Frasier Crane (I'm coming back!) at June 20, 2019 09:33 AM (F8YM0)

5 Ragamuffins. The whole lot of them.

Posted by: Roland THTG at June 20, 2019 09:34 AM (88+cf)

6 That's some chubby kids.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 20, 2019 09:34 AM (JUOKG)

7 Nice pic and writeup.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 20, 2019 09:35 AM (q1Pj5)

8 What's the point of an art thread if everything to say about the art is done in the OP?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 20, 2019 09:35 AM (KUaJL)

9 hiya

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 09:37 AM (L3Gls)

10
Shovel Ready Job - a limerick

In the words of the immortal Bard
Relating to your parents is hard
By almost every measure
My Mom thought I was a treasure
She even tried to bury me in the yard!

Posted by: Muldoon at June 20, 2019 09:37 AM (mvenn)

11 You know Italians and those hand gestures!

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 20, 2019 09:37 AM (m79Dg)

12 Kids back from FREE! lunch,they gave Bonzo a doggie bag shame about the boner.

Posted by: saf at June 20, 2019 09:37 AM (5IHGB)

13 Mid morning?

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 20, 2019 09:37 AM (H4VdJ)

14 She's a child trafficker

Posted by: McCool at June 20, 2019 09:38 AM (KvRqW)

15 What's a Gracci ?

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 09:38 AM (L3Gls)

16 I wish I could spend time reading Kris' essay instead of working, but I can't.

BTW, if anybody has some good thoughts, I'd appreciate a few sent my way. Been feeling damned lousy lately.

But I hope you all have a lovely day. Hat tip to Mark Steyn, here's Sarah Vaughn singing the theme to Peter Gunn:

https://tinyurl.com/y5do6x5k

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 20, 2019 09:38 AM (Ki5SV)

17 It's no Rothko.

Posted by: blaster at June 20, 2019 09:39 AM (9VeU0)

18 Helicopter mom. Probably has "my kids are my treasures" bumper sticker on her chariot. Put them to work. Spoiled brats.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 09:40 AM (OX6sG)

19 What's the point of an art thread if everything to say about the art is done in the OP?

Teh Quest for Boobehs.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at June 20, 2019 09:40 AM (HaL55)

20
The reason the Left invented the White Privilege bullshit recently is to counter the But-I-Had-Nothing-To-Do-With-Slavery argument against their bullshit reparations.

The Left says You STILL benefit today from slavery because You have "white privilege."

To which You say: Fuck You, Bro.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 20, 2019 09:41 AM (eMoBB)

21 I like the carnality.

Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2019 09:41 AM (tH5fk)

22 "Oh, my Flavius is so advanced for his age. He's doing his numerals at an VIII grade level."

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 20, 2019 09:41 AM (KUaJL)

23 Top 25.

Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2019 09:42 AM (tH5fk)

24

26,727.89 +223.89 (+0.84%)
As of 9:39AM EDT. Market open.

Posted by: DJIA Deathwatch at June 20, 2019 09:42 AM (qiqGr)

25 In order to understand the Gracci you must first go back and try to understand Cornelia's father, Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus. Which is more than I have time for now.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at June 20, 2019 09:42 AM (Clxcy)

26 23 Top 25.

Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2019 09:42 AM (tH5fk)

Congrats. Have you ever gotten eleventh?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 09:43 AM (OX6sG)

27 What's the point of an art thread if everything to say about the art is done in the OP?

Teh Quest for Boobehs.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at June 20, 2019 09:40 AM (HaL55)

And a few "I'd hit it" responses.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 20, 2019 09:43 AM (y7DUB)

28 SPOILER ALERT: The Gracchi came to bad ends.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 20, 2019 09:43 AM (9SkN+)

29 Tranny Show and Tell Hour at the Caesar Augustus Lieberry in Capua.

Nothing new under the sun......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 20, 2019 09:44 AM (Z+IKu)

30 This isn't the thread where I have to wear pants is it? Cause...never mind.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 09:44 AM (OX6sG)

31 BREAKING: US official tells AP that US drone was shot down by an Iranian missile in international airspace over Strait of Hormuz.

Is horseface Kerry advising Iran to provoke US
to drag Trump into war before election ?

Posted by: McCool at June 20, 2019 09:44 AM (KvRqW)

32 Ok, I'll trade you the girl, but you have to take these two, also.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 20, 2019 09:44 AM (dNzKv)

33 Congrats. Have you ever gotten eleventh?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob

That would be a one in a million shot.

Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2019 09:45 AM (tH5fk)

34 Or, the two boys clothes mimics their mother's... because she had leftover fabric from her outfit.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 20, 2019 09:45 AM (RBOtF)

35 T.M.I. Nobody gives a care about your learned interpretations.

Can't I just watch a cat video and be entertained?

You leave the interpretations up to us, Paragraph-Boy. The Horde will be happy to tell you that there are no trees and this is no Rothko.

...and put syrup on your french toast, you Philistine.

Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Blond at June 20, 2019 09:45 AM (Ckg4U)

36 Fun stuff, Kris! Thanks!

Posted by: m at June 20, 2019 09:45 AM (uXX7B)

37 Kris knows stuff, man. Like real stuff...not like that Hemp Oil guy. Can't even get the date of the paintings outta him....

Posted by: Tami at June 20, 2019 09:45 AM (cF8AT)

38
"You may have kids, but I have jewelry".

Or possibly, "Look, I'll swap you this chain, for the girl."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 20, 2019 09:46 AM (KoKdw)

39 Your children! Sell me your children!

How much for the little Girl?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 09:46 AM (qiqGr)

40 Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Blond at June 20, 2019 09:45 AM (Ckg4U)

Lol. Fuckin Slap.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 09:46 AM (OX6sG)

41 lol Tami

Posted by: SMH at June 20, 2019 09:46 AM (RU4sa)

42 The CEOs of 100 corporations beg to differ.

Posted by: Caliban at June 20, 2019 09:46 AM (qEujL)

43 Shovel Ready Job - a limerick

...and there goes a mouthful of perfectly good cofveve...

I doff my hat to you once more, Muldoon. You also owe me a monitor.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at June 20, 2019 09:47 AM (HaL55)

44 30 This isn't the thread where I have to wear pants is it? Cause...never mind.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 09:44 AM (OX6sG)

If the people in the artwork have no pants, you don't have to wear them either. Why should they get special treatment?

Posted by: Kris at June 20, 2019 09:47 AM (OyyDO)

45 [Kris has graciously agreed (after much begging from me), to write an occasional art thread. Look for her name on the headline so you won't be surprised to find actual informed art criticism on these august pages]

---------

Since when did "it's no Rothko" stop being informed art criticism?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 20, 2019 09:47 AM (9SkN+)

46 I'm going to have to refresh my memory on the Graccae. I dimly remember them from study of Rome in college but that's a long time past now...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 20, 2019 09:47 AM (AM1GF)

47 What's a Gracci ?

+++

Plural form of Groucho.

Posted by: Total Control Racist at June 20, 2019 09:48 AM (M2qjg)

48 The Graccii were to ancient Rome as the Kennedys were to the US. Two aristocrats politicians legislating proposals alleged to help the plebians but the effect of which was to empower the Graccii in the competition with other aristocrats. Both brothers were assassinated in separate incidents. As with the Kennedys, the progressives look back to the Graccii with sorrow and anger as they imagine what might have been.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 20, 2019 09:48 AM (+y/Ru)

49 SPOILER ALERT: The Gracchi came to bad ends.

***********

Treasure Chest - a limerick

A murderous mother named Kate
Treasured her children so great
She said, "These three in fact,
I have kept them, they're intact
But in my basement I've got pieces of eight."

(Sorry, Grandma!)

Posted by: Muldoon at June 20, 2019 09:48 AM (mvenn)

50 32 Ok, I'll trade you the girl, but you have to take these two, also.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 20, 2019 09:44 AM (dNzKv)

Nice.

Posted by: m at June 20, 2019 09:48 AM (uXX7B)

51 28 SPOILER ALERT: The Gracchi came to bad ends.

And yet we're still talking about them 2000 years later. That's worth something.

Posted by: pep at June 20, 2019 09:48 AM (wW03z)

52 >>47 What's a Gracci ?
+++
Plural form of Groucho.
Posted by: Total Control Racist at June 20, 2019 09:48 AM (M2qjg)

Gracci mean many birds come from forest.

Posted by: Chief Big Sky at June 20, 2019 09:49 AM (qEujL)

53 This may foreshadow their adulthood when the younger will follow the older into politics and take over after the older is murdered.

Spoilers on the Art Thread??

Thanks, Kris.

Posted by: rickl at June 20, 2019 09:49 AM (xjiRE)

54 46 I'm going to have to refresh my memory on the Graccae. I dimly remember them from study of Rome in college but that's a long time past now...
Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 20, 2019 09:47 AM (AM1GF)

-------

Two brothers. Made their political careers on rousing the rabble. Pissed off some important people. Got whacked.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 20, 2019 09:49 AM (9SkN+)

55 I like the carnality

+++

Too many clowns

Posted by: Total Control Racist at June 20, 2019 09:49 AM (M2qjg)

56 Ahhh, lovely painting from a time when art actually ennobled.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at June 20, 2019 09:49 AM (8/7u2)

57 There once were two brothers named Gracci...

Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2019 09:49 AM (tH5fk)

58 I'm currently wearing a ~~tunic~~ bathrobe sans-pants.

*tickles fancies*

Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Blond at June 20, 2019 09:49 AM (Ckg4U)

59 If the people in the artwork have no pants, you don't have to wear them either. Why should they get special treatment?

Posted by: Kris at June 20, 2019 09:47 AM (OyyDO)

Ok thanks, but I'm not wearing one of those dresses those soy boys have on.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 09:50 AM (OX6sG)

60 Is horseface Kerry advising Iran to provoke US

to drag Trump into war before election ?

Posted by: McCool at June 20, 2019 09:44 AM

---

I would not put it outside the realm of possibility for the traitor to be doing exactly that.

One thing that would guarantee a huge loss for Trump is to start another war in the Middle East.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 20, 2019 09:50 AM (JUOKG)

61 Youngest child must be a democrat. Distracted by bright shiny objects.

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 20, 2019 09:50 AM (dUJdY)

62 the Gracchi (especially the older one) proclaimed they run Barter Town. they were disabused of this notion.

unsure how they could have got their reforms through that Senate, run by slave drivng landowners and mafiosi, as it was. certainly not through the tribunate. maybe if they'd found friends in the army, like Marius would.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 20, 2019 09:50 AM (14Ghu)

63 Biden sidesteps questions on his son's business dealings. From ABC of all places.

https://tinyurl.com/y243rnb3

Yea, he's got nothing but smooth sailing ahead.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2019 09:50 AM (PxX58)

64 Children as treasures?!

Butcher them all!

Posted by: NARAL at June 20, 2019 09:51 AM (TisjL)

65 58 I'm currently wearing a tunic bathrobe sans-pants.

*tickles fancies*

Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Blond at June 20, 2019 09:49 AM (Ckg4U)

Over sharing.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 09:52 AM (OX6sG)

66 Actually, the thread of the pro-pleb movement founded by the Gracchi continued through the Marius and Sulla conflicts all the way down to Caesar. You could say it began the social conflict that eventually led to the unraveling of the Roman republic.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 20, 2019 09:52 AM (9SkN+)

67 I like this painter better than yesterday's painter. Long neck and scary baby Jesus could give you nightmares .

Posted by: JROD at June 20, 2019 09:52 AM (gPP3v)

68 Ok, I'll trade you the girl, but you have to take these two, also.

+++

Trafficking was legal back then

Posted by: Total Control Racist at June 20, 2019 09:52 AM (M2qjg)

69 One thing that would guarantee a huge loss for Trump is to start another war in the Middle East.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman

Why would he? As someone on Insty said, before fracking, we had to keep the straits open. Now, we just have to keep them closed. China hardest hit.

Lob a few missiles at the Iranian pumping facilities when they get frisky and be done with it.

Posted by: pep at June 20, 2019 09:53 AM (wW03z)

70 "Youngest child must be a democrat. Distracted by bright shiny objects."
-Posted by: Jewells45 at June 20, 2019 09:50 AM (dUJdY)

I'd keep that under wraps for Business Purposes.

Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Blond at June 20, 2019 09:53 AM (Ckg4U)

71 The woman with the jewelry is making that alt-right OK sign. Twice.

Posted by: m at June 20, 2019 09:53 AM (uXX7B)

72 Graccae, Gracci. Wonder where I got that spelling from.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 20, 2019 09:53 AM (AM1GF)

73 Biden sidesteps questions on his son's business dealings. From ABC of all places.

He will try the 'children are off limits' ploy eventually
but that wont work...

Posted by: McCool at June 20, 2019 09:53 AM (KvRqW)

74 I'll emanate some nice thoughts your way, MP4. And thanks for that link. I did not know that Mancini wrote lyrics to the Peter Gunn theme specifically for Sassy.

I'll also include ELP's take here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuGQzPQ225Y

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at June 20, 2019 09:53 AM (HaL55)

75 who is the other lady?

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 20, 2019 09:53 AM (dm05u)

76 What's a Gracci ?"

Plumber's tape. Covers their gracci...

Morning, y'all! Late coffeve...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 20, 2019 09:53 AM (6qErC)

77 "Over sharing."
-Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 09:52 AM (OX6sG)

This is all I have.

*pounds table*

This Is All I Have!!!

Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Blond at June 20, 2019 09:54 AM (Ckg4U)

78 Great read! Thanks, Kris.

Posted by: FrodoB at June 20, 2019 09:55 AM (9753m)

79 start another war in the Middle East. "

"Start"??

Cute, that is. When has war stopped in the "East"?

President Trump is the first in two generations who might stop it, tho.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 20, 2019 09:55 AM (6qErC)

80 "Say good night Gracci...."
"Good night Gracci!"

Posted by: George Burns at June 20, 2019 09:55 AM (wYseH)

81 75 who is the other lady?
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 20, 2019 09:53 AM (dm05u)

They all seem very intimate. I wondered if the two older women are sisters.

Posted by: m at June 20, 2019 09:55 AM (uXX7B)

82 Actually, the thread of the pro-pleb movement founded by the Gracchi continued through the Marius and Sulla conflicts all the way down to Caesar. You could say it began the social conflict that eventually led to the unraveling of the Roman republic.

When the Senate's rent-a-mobs killed the Gracci they traded in rule of law and the social contract for rule by whoever was good at killing at the time.

And like it or not, Cicero and Company in the Senate just weren't good at it compared to guys like Julius or Augustus.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at June 20, 2019 09:56 AM (Clxcy)

83 This is all I have.

*pounds table*

This Is All I Have!!!
Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Blond at June 20, 2019 09:54 AM (Ckg4U)

I feel ya man. And it is the Art thread so what the fuck. Let your freak flag fly Slap!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 09:56 AM (OX6sG)

84 Helicopter mom. Probably has "my kids are my treasures" bumper sticker on her chariot. Put them to work. Spoiled brats.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 09:40 AM

Her chariot had the stick family decals.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 20, 2019 09:57 AM (H4VdJ)

85 My daughter did a report on the Gracci in HS. Got an A on it. She's a really good writer...teacher loved it. Asked her if he could use it as one of his examples.

Do not, however, ask her to do any math....oy.

Posted by: Tami at June 20, 2019 09:57 AM (cF8AT)

86 They all seem very intimate. I wondered if the two older women are sisters.

Posted by: m at June 20, 2019 09:55 AM (uXX7B)

It's her mother....calls her "Ma".

Posted by: BignJames at June 20, 2019 09:57 AM (ykq7q)

87 That's some chubby kids.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 20, 2019 09:34 AM (JUOKG)

That was the sign of wealth in the old ages. they could afford to eat as much as they liked.

and the sniper is going for a world record shot from the background mountains.

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 20, 2019 09:57 AM (8D42x)

88 There once were two brothers named Gracci...

********

Might be doable if I only knew how to pronounce it.

Gratchy?
Gracie?
Grazi?
Gracky?

I am afraid I must defer in this instance.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 20, 2019 09:57 AM (mvenn)

89 I'm just a Silly Bastard, Cannibal Bob.

...but you already knew that.

Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Blond at June 20, 2019 09:58 AM (Ckg4U)

90 23 Top 25.

Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2019 09:42 AM (tH5fk)

Congrats. Have you ever gotten eleventh?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 09:43 AM (OX6sG)

would that be similar to SPONGE getting an actual first? which we have seen before...

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 20, 2019 09:58 AM (8D42x)

91 Her chariot had the stick family decals.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 20, 2019 09:57 AM (H4VdJ)

Lol. I like the ones with the guns. Oh and the goats the Muzzies put on theirs.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 09:58 AM (OX6sG)

92 The Gracci are an interesting choice for these populist times.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Demofascists are certifiable at June 20, 2019 09:58 AM (LISuA)

93 The Gracci family begs to not be thrown into one of Trump's concentration camps!

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 20, 2019 09:58 AM (H4VdJ)

94 Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Blond

My brother, please let a lady of negotiable virtue help increase your holdings. For the relief in it.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 20, 2019 09:58 AM (u82oZ)

95 Children as treasures?!

Posted by: NARAL at June 20, 2019 09:51 AM (TisjL)

Well, if your chinchilla ranch empire collapses, you can always sell them. Why, I myself brought $50,000 as a pup. And that was in 1955 dollars.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 20, 2019 09:59 AM (m79Dg)

96 89 I'm just a Silly Bastard, Cannibal Bob.

...but you already knew that.

Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Blond at June 20, 2019 09:58 AM (Ckg4U)

Takes one to know one.

*fist bump*

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 09:59 AM (OX6sG)

97 Paintings are like jokes. If you have to explain it....

Posted by: Agent Cooper at June 20, 2019 09:59 AM (iAwUQ)

98 Link to pic shows this is at VMFA in Richmond, VA. Have to go check it out.Zoom in and the boys' feet and legs are almost identical. Must've used early copy and paste techniques.

Posted by: FrodoB at June 20, 2019 10:00 AM (9753m)

99 Trump needs to unleash the Navy on Iran. Put up another MQ-9, with some F-35's and a few EA18G's and dare them to shoot at it. When they do, just start flaming all their AGM sites, whether they fired or not...

Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2019 10:00 AM (VpIIl)

100 88 There once were two brothers named Gracci...

********

Might be doable if I only knew how to pronounce it.

Gratchy?
Gracie?
Grazi?
Gracky?

I am afraid I must defer in this instance.
Posted by: Muldoon at June 20, 2019 09:57 AM (mvenn)

I've always heard it pronounced Grah-key so that's how I say it, but I have no real idea.

Posted by: Kris at June 20, 2019 10:00 AM (OyyDO)

101 But I hope you all have a lovely day. Hat tip to Mark Steyn, here's Sarah Vaughn singing the theme to Peter Gunn:

https://tinyurl.com/y5do6x5k
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercin

I never knew that there was words to that sing.

Thanks !

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 10:00 AM (L3Gls)

102 "My brother, please let a lady of negotiable virtue help increase your holdings. For the relief in it."
-Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 20, 2019 09:58 AM (u82oZ)

I should have become a Pimp long ago. My Pimp-Hand is strong, but I need the budget for an outfit.

Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Blond at June 20, 2019 10:01 AM (Ckg4U)

103 This is all I have.

*pounds table*

This Is All I Have!!!
Posted by: Slapweasel,

******

Goosfraba, Slap.

Goosfraba, goosfraba

Posted by: Muldoon at June 20, 2019 10:01 AM (mvenn)

104 When looking at the featured art I normally conclude that "I wouldn't hang that at a ratfuk." However after reading that insightful content I feel that I would be proud to hang that a ratfuk.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 20, 2019 10:01 AM (kfcYC)

105 My brother, please let a lady of negotiable virtue help increase your holdings. For the relief in it.

"Remember, you're fighting for this woman's honor, which is probably more than she ever did."

- Groucho Marx

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at June 20, 2019 10:02 AM (HaL55)

106 I noticed that if you back away from the painting to get a perspective...well all the figures get really small and blurry. Does that mean something?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 10:02 AM (OX6sG)

107 who is the other lady?

Joan Collins

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 10:02 AM (L3Gls)

108 does your daughter know what happens to civilisations that disdain math? Reinhardt and Rogoff "This Time Is Different" still holds up.

Spoiler: it never is.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 20, 2019 10:02 AM (14Ghu)

109 Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2019 10:00 AM

Iran need a dose of reality. And some depleted uranium rounds.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 20, 2019 10:02 AM (H4VdJ)

110 The Graccii were to ancient Rome as the Kennedys
were to the US. Two aristocrats politicians legislating proposals
alleged to help the plebians but the effect of which was to empower the
Graccii in the competition with other aristocrats. Both brothers were
assassinated in separate incidents. As with the Kennedys, the
progressives look back to the Graccii with sorrow and anger as they
imagine what might have been.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 20, 2019 09:48 AM (+y/Ru)

But also remember that the reforms they proposed stood to lose the Senators lots of power and influence as well as wealth, and the leading lights in the Senate destroyed the Mos Maiorum, the unwritten code of the Senate, to get them discredited and thrown out.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2019 10:03 AM (hSQmw)

111 Does that mean something?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 10:02 AM (OX6sG)

Yeah.

Posted by: BignJames at June 20, 2019 10:03 AM (ykq7q)

112 Trump already changed the ROE for our ships. Which is why you don't see their FAST boats in the vicinity anymore.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2019 10:04 AM (VpIIl)

113 Kid on the right will be smoking weed in 4 years, stealing from his parents in about 7 years, to feed his habit, and in about 13 years will move into their basement and never leave again.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2019 10:04 AM (a2xio)

114 noticed that if you back away from the painting to get a perspective...well all the figures get really small and blurry. Does that mean something?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 10:02 AM (OX6sG)

--------

Could be cataracts.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 20, 2019 10:04 AM (9SkN+)

115 But also remember that the reforms they proposed stood to lose the Senators lots of power and influence as well as wealth, and the leading lights in the Senate destroyed the Mos Maiorum, the unwritten code of the Senate, to get them discredited and thrown out.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2019 10:03 AM (hSQmw)

As Insty likes to say, it will never be approved, not enough opportunities for graft.

Same as it ever was.

Posted by: blaster at June 20, 2019 10:04 AM (9VeU0)

116 Nice work.

A number of years ago (okay, several decades ago), I knew people in college who drew a parallel between John and Bobby Kennedy and the Gracchi brothers. Both pairs of siblings were considered "reformers," and both ended up being killed as martyrs. I'm not sure of the politics of the later Republic, but it might just have been that the Gracchi went against the landed interests, the optimates, who had them killed by inciting the Roman mob against them.

And there are those that say JFK and RFK were bumped off by people in the pay of our landed interests. Dunno . . . but the parallel is interesting.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 20, 2019 10:04 AM (ClOmq)

117 88 There once were two brothers named Gracci...

********

Might be doable if I only knew how to pronounce it.

Gratchy?
Gracie?
Grazi?
Gracky?

I am afraid I must defer in this instance.
Posted by: Muldoon

There once was two brothers named Gracci,
Who fought like Itchy and Scratchy....
Muldoon if you try
you could write something wry,
and more than a little bit catchy.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 20, 2019 10:04 AM (kfcYC)

118 104 When looking at the featured art I normally conclude that "I wouldn't hang that at a ratfuk." However after reading that insightful content I feel that I would be proud to hang that a ratfuk.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 20, 2019 10:01 AM (kfcYC)

Lmao. This fucking place. Am I right?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 10:04 AM (OX6sG)

119 I've always heard it pronounced Grah-key so that's how I say it, but I have no real idea.
Posted by: Kris

What about Puccini or Pagliacci ?

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 10:04 AM (L3Gls)

120 Might be doable if I only knew how to pronounce it.

Latin 'c' was a hard 'k' sound. Would rhyme I think with 'by Cracky'

Posted by: FrodoB at June 20, 2019 10:04 AM (9753m)

121 Off to work but thank you Kris for these write ups. I truly enjoy them.

Posted by: Beartooth at June 20, 2019 10:04 AM (Pr4n8)

122 Since when did "it's no Rothko" stop being informed art criticism?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 20, 2019 09:47 AM (9SkN+)

I pulled that on my step dau a month ago. which was really fun because she love Rothko. I don't understand it. but she's all about him after seeing one in NYC.

but she was lost, then laughed, at the no Rothko.

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 20, 2019 10:04 AM (8D42x)

123 "Goosfraba, Slap.
Goosfraba, goosfraba"
-Posted by: Muldoon at June 20, 2019 10:01 AM (mvenn)

*HAH!* I'm in Ohio.

Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Blond at June 20, 2019 10:05 AM (Ckg4U)

124 I noticed that if you back away from the painting to get a perspective...well all the figures get really small and blurry. Does that mean something?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 10:02 AM

Time for glasses?

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 20, 2019 10:05 AM (H4VdJ)

125 104 When looking at the featured art I normally conclude that "I wouldn't hang that at a ratfuk." However after reading that insightful content I feel that I would be proud to hang that a ratfuk.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 20, 2019 10:01 AM (kfcYC)

I always thought if I ever had kids that I would like a copy of this in the nursery.

Posted by: Kris at June 20, 2019 10:05 AM (OyyDO)

126 I noticed that if you back away from the painting to
get a perspective...well all the figures get really small and blurry.
Does that mean something?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 10:02 AM (OX6sG)

Your eyeballs are getting old.

Probably the rest of you too.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2019 10:05 AM (a2xio)

127 Could be cataracts.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 20, 2019 10:04 AM (9SkN+)

There's cars in the painting?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 10:06 AM (OX6sG)

128 The Gracci are an interesting choice for these populist times.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Demofascists are certifiable

Indeed. After a quick refresh, their redistribution of land thing wasn't the same as the "pay off the people" shtick of modern Leftists--it was a result of something causing a real issue in military recruitment. Summary, a lot of the public land had been gobbled up by the senators, often at the expense of smaller landholders. Since property ownership was required for military service, this was a problem. Add to that the fact that land grants were a common reward for military service--and there wasn't much left after the senators grabbed it all--and you get problems, like the troop revolts of the time.

Greedy senators causing national security issues, I guess there really is nothing new under the sun.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 20, 2019 10:06 AM (AM1GF)

129 99
Trump needs to unleash the Navy on Iran. Put up another MQ-9, with some
F-35's and a few EA18G's and dare them to shoot at it. When they do,
just start flaming all their AGM sites, whether they fired or not...

Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2019 10:00 AM (VpIIl)

From what I've read Iran, despite being a Gulf power, doesn't have too much in the way of a military navy. It wouldn't take much effort for a real naval power like the US to deal a crippling blow to it.But we've got to be very careful how we handle this. I personally think Iran is baiting the US into a fight, because the sanctions are really hurting them. The mullahs are in trouble and they need to shake up the situation somehow, to turn the attention outwards instead of having their people rebel against the mullahs, which they are always a hair away from doing. In other words, the Iranian govt is getting nervous, and desperate.
Which probably means we need to just stay the course and let them implode. A military fight is exactly what they want right now.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at June 20, 2019 10:06 AM (iAwUQ)

130 I see several commenters already brought up the JFK/RFK = Gracchi similarities. Good work.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 20, 2019 10:06 AM (ClOmq)

131 I'm one of todays 10000 on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTHg-tGvlJ8

Posted by: Harry's Not Here at June 20, 2019 10:06 AM (pX3/b)

132 In Italian, which is Latin Lite, a double c followed by an i is "chi"

Double c with an h then an i is "key."

Posted by: blaster at June 20, 2019 10:06 AM (9VeU0)

133 ...will move into their basement and never leave again.

*******

Exactly! That's what I was saying @49.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 20, 2019 10:06 AM (mvenn)

134 Lol! You said they were looking at objects in the woman's box!

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 20, 2019 10:06 AM (1ISKN)

135 "There once was two brothers named Gracci,
Who fought like Itchy and Scratchy....
Muldoon if you try
you could write something wry,
and more than a little bit catchy."
-Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 20, 2019 10:04 AM (kfcYC)

Credit where Credit is Due.

*applause*

Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Blond at June 20, 2019 10:07 AM (Ckg4U)

136 I've always heard it pronounced Grah-key so that's how I say it, but I have no real idea.
Posted by: Kris

I dimly remember that to, so it's Gracci - wacky - lackey - etc.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 20, 2019 10:07 AM (AM1GF)

137 Your eyeballs are getting old.

Probably the rest of you too.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2019 10:05 AM (a2xio)

Hey hey hey! Yeah ok, that's a given. Since I've already had cadillacs removed in each eye.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 10:07 AM (OX6sG)

138 There once was two brothers named Gracci,

Who fought like Itchy and Scratchy....

Muldoon if you try

you could write something wry,

and more than a little bit catchy.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 20, 2019 10:04 AM (kfcYC)

Who was it that axed what the point of art threads were?
Behold.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at June 20, 2019 10:07 AM (HaL55)

139 Boring.

Posted by: BignJames at June 20, 2019 09:31 AM (ykq7q)

www.hotair.com

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2019 10:07 AM (wYseH)

140 But we've got to be very careful how we handle this.

Perhaps limpet mines of our own.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 10:08 AM (qiqGr)

141 Now I'm dropping the h on the spelling. Lovely.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 20, 2019 10:08 AM (AM1GF)

142 Someone on FB has a Boring Company "Not a Flamethrower" for sale for $800.

Hmmm.

Posted by: blaster at June 20, 2019 10:08 AM (9VeU0)

143 " 31 ...

Is horseface Kerry advising Iran to provoke US
to drag Trump into war before election ?

Posted by: McCool at June 20, 2019 09:44 AM (KvRqW) "

I would be surprised if he wasn't.
Dirtbag has been siding with our enemies since the 60's.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 20, 2019 10:08 AM (a5hgv)

144 Treasure rips all the labels off the cans in the pantry because they're "helping mom"?
Who Knew?!

Posted by: I'm Squidward, You're Squidward, We're all Squidward at June 20, 2019 10:08 AM (0DpH3)

145 An Itchy Scratchy reference always brings a tear to my eye.

Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2019 10:08 AM (tH5fk)

146 "Gracchi" sounds more Greek than Latin to me.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 20, 2019 10:08 AM (14Ghu)

147 MPPPP, I had no idea anybody had ever done lyrics to Peter Gunn. I have Sarah Vaughan's "Broken Hearted Melody, but nothing else by her.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 20, 2019 10:09 AM (ClOmq)

148 ...will move into their basement and never leave again.

*******

Exactly! That's what I was saying @49.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 20, 2019 10:06 AM (mvenn)

I have to read up to get to the good stuff, and I'm a slow reader.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2019 10:09 AM (a2xio)

149 "cc" in Italian is about the same as "ch" in English. So GRAHchee. Puccini is "pooCHEEnee".

I love this painting.

Posted by: G. Gnome at June 20, 2019 10:09 AM (al6UK)

150 A military fight is exactly what they want right now.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at June 20, 2019 10:06 AM

You're probably right and as much as I'd love to see Iran turned into dust (well more than it is already) Let them implode. I don't know if there's a way to tighten sanctions more. Naal blockade maybe but that's turning up the heat.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 20, 2019 10:09 AM (H4VdJ)

151 Gratchy?
Gracie?
Grazi?
Gracky?

I am afraid I must defer in this instance.
Posted by: Muldoon

interwebz says "Gra-kay" (rhymes with fly)

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 20, 2019 10:09 AM (dm05u)

152 Posted by: Agent Cooper at June 20, 2019 10:06 AM (iAwUQ)

This. Unite the people against the evil USA. Again.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 10:09 AM (OX6sG)

153 Hang in there, MP4. Remember, nothing ever stays the same.

Posted by: creeper at June 20, 2019 10:09 AM (ctmIP)

154 Treasure rips all the labels off the cans in the pantry because they're "helping mom"?
Who Knew?!

Ha! We used to buy labelless cans for a huge discount when I was a kid.

It lead to quite a few mystery dinners.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 10:10 AM (qiqGr)

155 Trump is not going to be goaded into war with Iran. He knows he's got them right where he wants them, and time is on his side.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at June 20, 2019 10:10 AM (H8QX8)

156 Wikipedia says Gracchi - as in the plural of Gracchus.

Well, if wikipedia says it, the science is settled.

Posted by: blaster at June 20, 2019 10:10 AM (9VeU0)

157

Could be cataracts.

Posted by: Cicero

There's cars in the painting?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob

*******

Obligatory- from the archives

There once was a rich Oriental
Drove a new car, it wasn't a rental
His optometrist opined
"You have a cataract, I find."
"Oh no! It's a Rincoln Continental!"

Posted by: Muldoon at June 20, 2019 10:10 AM (mvenn)

158 127 Could be cataracts.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 20, 2019 10:04 AM (9SkN+)

There's cars in the painting?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 10:06 AM (OX6sG)

I laughed.

Posted by: m at June 20, 2019 10:10 AM (uXX7B)

159 www.hotair.com

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2019 10:07 AM (wYseH)

A bit touchy today?

Posted by: BignJames at June 20, 2019 10:11 AM (ykq7q)

160 Ha! We used to buy labelless cans for a huge discount when I was a kid.

It lead to quite a few mystery dinners.
Posted by: Grump928(C

Alpo casserole ?

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 10:11 AM (L3Gls)

161 "This may foreshadow their adulthood when the younger will follow the older into politics and take over after the older is murdered."

Also foreshadows the murderer.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at June 20, 2019 10:11 AM (H8QX8)

162 Not enough paintings of cars. Seems like open market.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 20, 2019 10:11 AM (1ISKN)

163 I'll bet that selling labelless cans is illegal now.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 10:11 AM (qiqGr)

164 SPOILER ALERT: The Gracchi came to bad ends.

***********

Treasure Chest - a limerick

A murderous mother named Kate

Treasured her children so great

She said, "These three in fact,

I have kept them, they're intact

But in my basement I've got pieces of eight."

(Sorry, Grandma!)

Posted by: Muldoon at June 20, 2019 09:48 AM (mvenn)

Among my "favorite" serial killers is Belle Gunness. Not only was she a "black widow" type killer, she also disposed of pesky children when it was necessary.

Look for a photo of her and her kids. It's heartbreaking knowing what she was going to do to them. Such angels, in the care of a monster.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2019 10:12 AM (a2xio)

165 119 I've always heard it pronounced Grah-key so that's how I say it, but I have no real idea.
Posted by: Kris

What about Puccini or Pagliacci ?
Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 10:04 AM (L3Gls)

Poo-chee-nee. Pag-lee-ah-chee. Aren't these Italian. Isn't that way different than Latin?

The only Latin I know is what I've picked up in my studies, and that's only individual words. But I have no idea how to pronounce any of it.

Posted by: Kris at June 20, 2019 10:12 AM (OyyDO)

166 10 wounded in shooting outside Deja Vu nightclub in Allentown

-
Doesn't smell like terrorist or crazy mass shooting. People were leaving at closing time when shots rang out. I'm guessing gang related and/or somebody danced with somebody else's girl.

https://bit.ly/2XpmGiS

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 20, 2019 10:12 AM (+y/Ru)

167 It is time to pick something in Iran and make it go bang.

I suggest starting with all of Kharg Island.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 20, 2019 10:12 AM (Boy/L)

168 82
When the Senate's rent-a-mobs killed the Gracci they traded in rule of law and the social contract for rule by whoever was good at killing at the time.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at June 20, 2019 09:56 AM (Clxcy)

At least our Senate doesn't have rent-a-mobs. Yet.

Posted by: rickl at June 20, 2019 10:12 AM (xjiRE)

169 interwebz says "Gra-kay" (rhymes with fly)

*******

Fine, the Interwebz can write their own damn limerick, then.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 20, 2019 10:12 AM (mvenn)

170 Ha! We used to buy labelless cans for a huge discount when I was a kid.

It lead to quite a few mystery dinners.
Posted by: Grump928

As long as it ain't beets or scrapple I'm game.

Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2019 10:12 AM (tH5fk)

171 The boy in red looks like he put a whoopie cushion on the chair of the woman in red and he's waiting for her to sit back on it.

Posted by: George V at June 20, 2019 10:12 AM (ORvjE)

172 By the way... the Slapweasel Phone-Lines are open. If you want to bitch about something and get a comical perspective, just email me and if I recognize you, I'll respond.

Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Blond at June 20, 2019 10:12 AM (Ckg4U)

173 I wonder if this is the 1st shooting at the Deja Vu, or if it has happened before.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 20, 2019 10:13 AM (1ISKN)

174 It is now pronounced"Gretzky"

Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2019 10:13 AM (hSQmw)

175 Poo-chee-nee. Pag-lee-ah-chee. Aren't these Italian. Isn't that way different than Latin?

I thought that they were related, somehow.

When I was an altar boy, The Mass was in Latin.

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 10:14 AM (L3Gls)

176 Alpo casserole ?

Chicken Surprise.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at June 20, 2019 10:14 AM (HaL55)

177 www.hotair.com

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2019 10:07 AM (wYseH)

Don't hotair me, I'm not Bogarting the Art thread. But if you haven't seen the story about the lost/found Caravaggio it's interesting.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 10:14 AM (OX6sG)

178 72 Philadelphia Police Officers Placed On Desk Duty Over Offensive Social Media Posts...

-
I wonder just how offensive they were.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 20, 2019 10:14 AM (+y/Ru)

179 Perhaps limpet mines of our own.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 10:08 AM (qiqGr)

Make exact copies of the ones they use, put it in the lanes their ships use, and when their own tankers and fleet start getting fucked up, watch them scratch their heads and wonder how their mines drifted that far.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at June 20, 2019 10:15 AM (J+mig)

180 Poo-chee-nee. Pag-lee-ah-chee. Aren't these Italian. Isn't that way different than Latin?

I thought that they were related, somehow.

When I was an altar boy, The Mass was in Latin.

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 10:14 AM

Fragile

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 20, 2019 10:15 AM (H4VdJ)

181 Oh, and I like the painting. Great rendering of Brian Dennehy in the background.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 20, 2019 10:15 AM (Boy/L)

182 160
Ha! We used to buy labelless cans for a huge discount when I was a kid.

It lead to quite a few mystery dinners.

Posted by: Grump928(C

Alpo casserole ?

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 10:11 AM (L3Gls)

Oh yeah, I remember those. Back when I was kid they always had a pile of these mystery cans in the grocery store, and you could get a can for 25 cents each. I don't think I've seen any of those in a long time. I guess they don't do it anymore.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at June 20, 2019 10:15 AM (iAwUQ)

183 I only recently learned that Circe is actually pronounced "Keer-ke" in Greek
always went with Seer-si before

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 20, 2019 10:15 AM (dm05u)

184 But if you haven't seen the story about the lost/found Caravaggio it's interesting.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob

Did they find the lost one ? Or lose the found one ?

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 10:15 AM (L3Gls)

185 "Fragile"
-Posted by: Minnfidel at June 20, 2019 10:15 AM (H4VdJ)
Frah-GEE-lay.

Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Blond at June 20, 2019 10:16 AM (Ckg4U)

186 Look for a photo of her and her kids. It's heartbreaking knowing what she was going to do to them. Such angels, in the care of a monster.
Posted by: BurtTC

******

Yeah. I hesitated to post that limerick, knowing it was pretty dark. I do sometimes tend into gallows humor territory. No offense intended.

I'm off to do stuff in the real world.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 20, 2019 10:16 AM (mvenn)

187 Unfortunately we are now placed in an unavoidable position for conflict. If we do nothing about the drone it will only embolden Iran further. Hard choices ahead.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 20, 2019 10:16 AM (e46OR)

188 Oh yeah, I remember those. Back when I was kid they
always had a pile of these mystery cans in the grocery store, and you
could get a can for 25 cents each. I don't think I've seen any of those
in a long time. I guess they don't do it anymore.

Posted by: Agent Cooper

----

I'd imagine FDA or some bullshit govt regs forbid it.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2019 10:16 AM (Q/obp)

189 There once were two brothers named Gracci...
Who wore robes by Jonny Versache,The elder lifted his tunic,And was seen as a Eunuch,...Something something, something something

Posted by: IP at June 20, 2019 10:16 AM (cn3ZE)

190 Philadelphia Police Officers Placed On Desk Duty Over Offensive Social Media Posts

I'll be they were sports related because Philly.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 20, 2019 10:16 AM (Boy/L)

191 There once was a rich Oriental
Drove a new car, it wasn't a rental
His optometrist opined
"You have a cataract, I find."
"Oh no! It's a Rincoln Continental!"

Posted by: Muldoon at June 20, 2019 10:10 AM (mvenn)

excellent timing. And limerick.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 10:16 AM (OX6sG)

192 Frankly, I'm in favor of reparations .. if I can beat anybody, who ever again mentions slavery or reparations, with a baseball bat

Posted by: SMOD at June 20, 2019 10:16 AM (QkjLD)

193 Your eyeballs are getting old.

Probably the rest of you too.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2019 10:05 AM (a2xio)

Hey hey hey! Yeah ok, that's a given. Since I've already had cadillacs removed in each eye.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 10:07 AM (OX6sG)

Among the many things I look forward to in my golden years (which are a long long ways away), cadillac surgery. That's what they keep telling me, once I get 'em, I can have them removed and my vision will return to something like it once was.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2019 10:16 AM (a2xio)

194 Kick-e-ro.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 20, 2019 10:17 AM (MIKMs)

195 "Fragile"
-Posted by: Minnfidel at June 20, 2019 10:15 AM (H4VdJ)
Frah-GEE-lay.
Posted by: Slapweasel

that's like Frito Lay, only less crunchy.

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 10:17 AM (L3Gls)

196 Frah-GEE-lay.

That's a Latin word that means "container." Or "STRIKE HERE."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at June 20, 2019 10:17 AM (HaL55)

197 "No, seriously, 3 gold pieces for the lot."

"Two gold pieces and you guarantee the girl is a virgin."

"Sold!"

"MOOOOOOOOOMMMM!!"

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 10:17 AM (RD7QR)

198

Oh, the carnality!

Posted by: Herb Morrison at June 20, 2019 10:18 AM (aKsyK)

199 Cicero was actually pronounced "Chick-a-rell-eee"

Or so I've heard.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 20, 2019 10:18 AM (1ISKN)

200 Is horseface Kerry advising Iran to provoke US
to drag Trump into war before election ?

Posted by: McCool at June 20, 2019 09:44 AM (KvRqW) "

I would be surprised if he wasn't.
Dirtbag has been siding with our enemies since the 60's.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez

I don't care who you are, THAT IS TREASON.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 10:18 AM (sRczR)

201 Did they find the lost one ? Or lose the found one ?

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 10:15 AM (L3Gls)

Well you''ll just have to track that down JT. I'm not telling.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 10:18 AM (OX6sG)

202 Kid on the right will be smoking weed in 4 years, stealing from his parents in about 7 years, to feed his habit, and in about 13 years will move into their basement and never leave again.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2019 10:04 AM (a2xio)

Does that mean the kid on the left started a lemonade stand, in 4 years bought some hoes, in 7 years cornered the Roman Emperor Bust market and in 13 years appointed his chinchilla Emperor?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 20, 2019 10:18 AM (m79Dg)

203 10 wounded in shooting outside Deja Vu nightclub in Allentown
-
Doesn't smell like terrorist or crazy mass shooting. People were leaving at closing time when shots rang out. I'm guessing gang related and/or somebody danced with somebody else's girl.

https://bit.ly/2XpmGiS

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 20, 2019 10:12 AM (+y/Ru)

Deja Vu used to be a strip club. franchise IIRC.

so I wonder if the stripper said no, or if someone was caught with a stripper.

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 20, 2019 10:18 AM (8D42x)

204 Among the many things I look forward to in my golden
years (which are a long long ways away), cadillac surgery. That's what
they keep telling me, once I get 'em, I can have them removed and my
vision will return to something like it once was.

Posted by: BurtTC

---

True! I needed glasses my entire life until my cadillac surgeries. Now, corrected to 20/20.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2019 10:18 AM (Q/obp)

205 191 There once was a rich Oriental
Drove a new car, it wasn't a rental
His optometrist opined
"You have a cataract, I find."
"Oh no! It's a Rincoln Continental!"

Posted by: Muldoon at June 20, 2019 10:10 AM (mvenn)

Rugs are Oriental!

People are Asian!

Posted by: blaster at June 20, 2019 10:18 AM (9VeU0)

206 Oh, and endeavour to persevere.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 20, 2019 10:18 AM (mvenn)

207 I only recently learned that Circe is actually pronounced "Keer-ke" in Greek

always went with Seer-si before

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 20, 2019 10:15 AM (dm05u)

If the Greeks wanted us to pronounce stuff Greek-like, they shoulda won some more wars.

Same with france.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2019 10:18 AM (a2xio)

208 Supreme Court rules cross monument can stay on public land.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2019 10:19 AM (PxX58)

209 Back when I was kid they always had a pile of these mystery cans in the grocery store, and you could get a can for 25 cents each.

I think we paid a dime or a nickel for a #10 can, but then I am almost 29.

Shaking the cans was vital to guess whether to buy it or not.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 10:19 AM (qiqGr)

210 I'd imagine FDA or some bullshit govt regs forbid it.

It says, "FDA Warning: do not use if label is missing"

On the label.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at June 20, 2019 10:19 AM (HaL55)

211 I don't care who you are, THAT IS TREASON.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 10:18 AM (sRczR)

Treason is such an ugly word. I prefer the term "thinking outside the box".--John "Mr. Ed" Kerry.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 20, 2019 10:20 AM (m79Dg)

212 True! I needed glasses my entire life until my cadillac surgeries. Now, corrected to 20/20.
Posted by: Tonypete

Same here.

Now I have x-ray vision.

Almost.

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 10:20 AM (L3Gls)

213 203 10 wounded in shooting outside Deja Vu nightclub in Allentown

Quote from local news story:

People were screaming 'that bitch started shooting'....

Posted by: blaster at June 20, 2019 10:20 AM (9VeU0)

214 You always hoped the unlabeled can was peaches, but it was usually lima beans.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 20, 2019 10:20 AM (1ISKN)

215 Supreme Court rules cross monument can stay on public land.

Let me guess: 5-4.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 20, 2019 10:20 AM (Boy/L)

216 "There once was a rich Oriental
Drove a new car, it wasn't a rental
His optometrist opined
"You have a cataract, I find."
"Oh no! It's a Rincoln Continental!"
-Posted by: Muldoon at June 20, 2019 10:10 AM (mvenn)

>>>excellent timing. And limerick.
-Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 10:16 AM (OX6sG)

"Drove a New Car, not a rental" might have fit your timing a bit better. Perhaps you should run things by my Enormous Ego before you post them.

Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Blond at June 20, 2019 10:20 AM (Ckg4U)

217 194 Kick-e-ro.
Posted by: mustbequantum

the chickpea guy

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 20, 2019 10:20 AM (dm05u)

218 At least our Senate doesn't have rent-a-mobs. Yet.

Posted by: rickl

Between doxxing, the media, and Antifa, I'd say we're almost there.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 20, 2019 10:20 AM (AM1GF)

219 the Senators do not have rent a mobs. the antifa mob, instead, has a rent a senator program

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 20, 2019 10:21 AM (14Ghu)

220 Did they find the lost one ? Or lose the found one ?

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 10:15 AM (L3Gls)

Well you''ll just have to track that down JT. I'm not telling.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob

Bah !

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 10:21 AM (L3Gls)

221 the chickpea guy
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 20, 2019 10:20 AM (dm05u)

*seethes*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 20, 2019 10:21 AM (9SkN+)

222 The Parkland sheriff deputies must have all transferred to Sacramento PD. They left their fellow officer laying wounded in a backyard for over 40 minutes because of 'gun fire' from some psycho husband. No one with any guts in that department?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 20, 2019 10:21 AM (e46OR)

223 Among the many things I look forward to in my golden years (which are a long long ways away), cadillac surgery. That's what they keep telling me, once I get 'em, I can have them removed and my vision will return to something like it once was.
Posted by: BurtTC

Have you heard? (Hello! How's your hearing?) (swidt?)

There is supposedly an eye doctor who has developed eye drops that dissolve cataracts. Saw a blurb on Facebook about it.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 10:21 AM (sRczR)

224 Look for a photo of her and her kids. It's
heartbreaking knowing what she was going to do to them. Such angels, in
the care of a monster.

Posted by: BurtTC

******

Yeah. I hesitated to post that limerick, knowing it was pretty
dark. I do sometimes tend into gallows humor territory. No offense
intended.

I'm off to do stuff in the real world.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 20, 2019 10:16 AM (mvenn)

Humor and bloody filthy murder can and perhaps should, go hand in hand.

Every now and then, a nod and a prayer for the victims, and then back to taking a joking poke at evil, so as to reduce its power.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2019 10:21 AM (a2xio)

225 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. Great write up on the art this morning. Thanxs!
Goes looking for coffee. Sets the vinyl to playing Cornelius Brown and Sister Rose.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2019 10:21 AM (axyOa)

226 True! I needed glasses my entire life until my cadillac surgeries. Now, corrected to 20/20.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2019 10:18 AM (Q/obp)

Yep. And I still can't get topspin on the tennis ball.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 10:22 AM (OX6sG)

227 Frankly, I'm in favor of reparations .. if I can beat anybody, who ever again mentions slavery or reparations, with a baseball bat

Posted by: SMOD at June 20, 2019 10:16 AM (QkjLD)

use a cricket bat instead. little bit more heft, and the flat side makes a nice *thwack* sound when properly struck.

or so I'm told...

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 20, 2019 10:22 AM (8D42x)

228 192 Frankly, I'm in favor of reparations .. if I can beat anybody, who ever again mentions slavery or reparations, with a baseball bat
Posted by: SMOD at June 20, 2019 10:16 AM (QkjLD)

Nah. Give them an inch, they'll set their eyes on the mile.

The sins of the father fall not on the son. The idea that long-dead people whose general skin tone I share, yet bear no relation to at all somehow transfer their guilt to me is monstrous and absurd. Not only that, but this notion of collective guilt violates the Geneva Conventions.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at June 20, 2019 10:22 AM (J+mig)

229 I really fucking the fuck had it with "pride" month.

Just got an email from Chipotle not only celebrating pride month but ASKING FOR DONATIONS to support a local pound you in the ass gender fluid chapter because LOOOOOVE AND ONENESSS and if I buy a burrito I can ask for 33% (!?!?!?) to be donated to that chapter.

WTF

You know I was about about tolerance and that gays should have the same rights as every other American as long as yall left me the fuck alone in peace.

Fuck that shit now, war.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 20, 2019 10:22 AM (+dsLj)

230 The object that Tiberius (the elder Gracchus boy) is holding is more likely a wax writing tablet. The codex form of books came a couple centuries after the Gracchi.

Posted by: Travesty at June 20, 2019 10:22 AM (etWrf)

231 If the Greeks wanted us to pronounce stuff Greek-like, they shoulda won some more wars.

Same with france.
Posted by: BurtTC

Toot sweet!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 10:23 AM (sRczR)

232 You know the Deja Vu club in Allentown is strictly high class.

Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2019 10:23 AM (tH5fk)

233 There is supposedly an eye doctor who has developed eye drops that dissolve cataracts. Saw a blurb on Facebook about it.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 10:21 AM (sRczR)

And the eyeball. Back to the drawing board.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 10:24 AM (OX6sG)

234 True! I needed glasses my entire life until my cadillac surgeries. Now, corrected to 20/20.

Posted by: Tonypete

Same here.

Now I have x-ray vision.

Almost.

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 10:20 AM (L3Gls)

X-Ray vision... a blessing and a curse. A blessing for the first few times you use it as the ladies walk by, and then after a while, you realize you cannot turn it off fast enough to avoid the traumatic sights that will give you nightmares the rest of your natural days.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2019 10:24 AM (a2xio)

235 People were screaming 'that bitch started shooting'....

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Mass shooting and gender assumption?!!! What's the world coming to?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 20, 2019 10:24 AM (+y/Ru)

236 192
Frankly, I'm in favor of reparations .. if I can beat anybody, who ever
again mentions slavery or reparations, with a baseball bat

Posted by: SMOD at June 20, 2019 10:16 AM (QkjLD)

You know that whole reparations foolishness is gonna backfire just like Lie-A-Watha's indian claims did. DNA testing has proven that the human race has become so intermingled at this point that really, we're all mutts. It throws the left's whole victimhood racial identity politics boondoggle in the dumpster.
I'm probably as black as anybody else is, genetically. Or as indian, or as white. You get the idea...I mean it's all very silly anyway, but now the science proves it.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at June 20, 2019 10:24 AM (iAwUQ)

237 Yep. And I still can't get topspin on the tennis ball.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob

Spit on it !

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 10:24 AM (L3Gls)

238 I am all for reparations, as long as you can find someone alive who was a slave prior to the end of slavery in the US I say pay them! They have it coming.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 20, 2019 10:25 AM (H4VdJ)

239 Breaking News: Chief of the Dominican Republic tourism board fears a backlash is happening.

Must be rassssism.

Oh, and nice write up Kris!

Posted by: IP at June 20, 2019 10:25 AM (cn3ZE)

240 Spit on it !

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 10:24 AM (L3Gls)

Lol. Spitball! Sinks like a bastard!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 10:25 AM (OX6sG)

241 Perhaps you should run things by my Enormous Ego before you post them.
Posted by: Slapweasel

Don't have that much gas in the tank.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 10:26 AM (sRczR)

242 Breaking News: Chief of the Dominican Republic tourism board fears a backlash is happening.

Must be rassssism

That's what happens when you kill 18 tourists.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 10:26 AM (sRczR)

243 @realDonaldTrump 11 minutes ago

Iran made a very big mistake!

Posted by: Tami at June 20, 2019 10:26 AM (cF8AT)

244 Local talk radio says Trump said, "Iran has made a very big mistake."

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at June 20, 2019 10:27 AM (hjaPQ)

245 Iran made a very big mistake!
Posted by: Tami at June 20, 2019 10:26 AM (cF8AT)

-------

Oops

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 20, 2019 10:27 AM (9SkN+)

246 "For me, the key elements in this work are composition and color."
Color? Color? I don't see no GD color!

Posted by: Rev Al Sharptongue at June 20, 2019 10:27 AM (vI+F1)

247 Ok, all. I'd rather just fuck around with you reprobates all day but list of house chores. Will it's not 1000 degrees. Luego.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 20, 2019 10:27 AM (OX6sG)

248 Tami's too quick.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at June 20, 2019 10:28 AM (hjaPQ)

249 You know the Deja Vu club in Allentown is strictly high class.
Posted by: eleven

I've seen this before.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 10:28 AM (sRczR)

250 245
Iran made a very big mistake!

Posted by: Tami at June 20, 2019 10:26 AM (cF8AT)

Uh oh. Donald, you're a good guy and you're doing a great job, but DON'T take the bait!

Posted by: Agent Cooper at June 20, 2019 10:28 AM (iAwUQ)

251 You know who else made a very big mistake?

Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2019 10:28 AM (tH5fk)

252 Must be rassssism

That's what happens when you kill 18 tourists.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 10:26 AM (sRczR)

They weren't even all White. They need to review their skin pigmentation charts.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 20, 2019 10:28 AM (m79Dg)

253 Allentown is strictly high class.

Billy Joel sang about it didn't he?

Posted by: IP at June 20, 2019 10:29 AM (cn3ZE)

254 Dad is knocking... I must go and answer his inane, repetitive questions that he'll only remember for five minutes. *exaggeration, sort-of*

"Religion is a Crutch!"

No shit, Dick Tracy. The Human Condition is Permanent.

Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Blond at June 20, 2019 10:29 AM (Ckg4U)

255 You know who else made a very big mistake?
Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2019 10:28 AM (tH5fk)

Everybody.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 20, 2019 10:30 AM (m79Dg)

256 Was that wrong? Should we not have done that? I gotta plead ignorance on this one. Had anyone told us that that sort of thing was frowned upon...

Posted by: Iran at June 20, 2019 10:30 AM (gC2IV)

257 Never miss a chance to Love.

...right?

Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Blond at June 20, 2019 10:30 AM (Ckg4U)

258 >>Let me guess: 5-4.

Looks like 7-2 with RBG and the Wide Latina dissenting.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2019 10:30 AM (PxX58)

259 *static*

Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Blond at June 20, 2019 10:30 AM (Ckg4U)

260

Alabama Republican Roy Moore will announce today if he is running for U.S. Senate in 2020.

Moore has scheduled a Thursday afternoon announcement in Montgomery.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2019 10:30 AM (aKsyK)

261 I don't care who you are, THAT IS TREASON.

Also note that Obama has been going on a tour of the world meeting with leaders.

http://tinyurl.com/y5ccfcmr

It could be to coordinate spygate stories or to counter-act Trump's policies.

Posted by: McCool at June 20, 2019 10:31 AM (KvRqW)

262 Poo-chee-nee. Pag-lee-ah-chee. Aren't these Italian. Isn't that way different than Latin?
The only Latin I know is what I've picked up in my studies, and
that's only individual words. But I have no idea how to pronounce any of
it.

Posted by: Kris at June 20, 2019
*
*
. . .
As far as I know, Latin today is pretty much pronounced a lot like Italian. We can hardly ask the ancient Romans. I usually pronounce Latin words as if they were some unholy brew of Italian and Spanish.

What I've picked up in my studies is individual words and phrases, and the Latin words that many English words trace back to. I've also picked up that learning Latin involves learning one hell of a lot of grammar (case endings, verb conjugations . . . eccch).

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 20, 2019 10:31 AM (ClOmq)

263 I've only been deliberately corrected on name pronunciations once, and told never to use the correct pronunciation for another. The first was Giotto. Used to to Gee-otto. A professor looked me straight in the eye and said it's G'otto.

An art gallery curator said to never to say Van Gogh as Van Gugck (guttural sound). Say Van GO. It's not correct, but only pretentious snobs say it right.

Posted by: Kris at June 20, 2019 10:31 AM (OyyDO)

264 238 I am all for reparations, as long as you can find someone alive who was a slave prior to the end of slavery in the US I say pay them! They have it coming.
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 20, 2019 10:25 AM (H4VdJ)

How about we get reparations from the people alive right now who are allowing, enabling, and participating in slavery and human trafficking.

Hint: It ain't Trump supporters.

Posted by: Emmie at June 20, 2019 10:31 AM (4HMW8)

265 Looks like 7-2 with RBG and the Wide Latina dissenting

*********************

RBG is proof positive that Satan uses his negative energy of pure evil to keep people alive.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 20, 2019 10:31 AM (+dsLj)

266 Ok, all. I'd rather just fuck around with you reprobates all day but list of house chores. Will it's not 1000 degrees. Luego.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob

Don't yell LUEGO in a crowded theater.

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 10:31 AM (L3Gls)

267 Moore has scheduled a Thursday afternoon announcement in Montgomery.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2019 10:30 AM (aKsyK)
Didn't Trump ask him nicely not to run?

Posted by: Agent Cooper at June 20, 2019 10:31 AM (iAwUQ)

268 Meeting at the White House this morning to discuss response to Iran.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at June 20, 2019 10:31 AM (hjaPQ)

269 Was that wrong? Should we not have done that? I gotta plead ignorance on this one. Had anyone told us that that sort of thing was frowned upon...
Posted by: Iran at June 20, 2019 10:30 AM (gC2IV)

You're just calling it an "act of war" because you're racist!--Iran.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 20, 2019 10:33 AM (m79Dg)

270 An art gallery curator said to never to say Van Gogh as Van Gugck (guttural sound). Say Van GO. It's not correct, but only pretentious snobs say it right.

See! SEE!!

I knew it.

Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2019 10:33 AM (tH5fk)

271 The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday upheld the federal government's authority under a 2006 law to require thousands of sex offenders to register with authorities in the states where they live, as the justices ruled against a child rapist convicted in Maryland.

In its 5-3 decision, the court rejected convicted sex offender Herman Gundy's argument that in passing the law, Congress handed too much power to the U.S. attorney general in violation of a principal of constitutional law called the nondelegation doctrine. This doctrine forbids Congress from assigning its legislative powers to the federal government's executive branch.

Posted by: SMOD at June 20, 2019 10:33 AM (QkjLD)

272 48 The Graccii were to ancient Rome as the Kennedys were to the US."

You beat me to it! All these characters keep repeating; someone the other night pointed out to me that Mark Zuckerberg is the body double of Constantine the Great. So where's our Sulla? It's about time for him to make his appearance again.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 10:33 AM (Kpl3J)

273 The Supreme Court says a World War I memorial in the shape of a 40-foot-tall cross can continue to stand on public land in Maryland.

The court has rejected a challenge to the nearly 100-year-old memorial. The justices have ruled that its presence on public land doesn't violate the First Amendment's establishment clause. That clause prohibits the government from favoring one religion over others.

Posted by: SMOD at June 20, 2019 10:33 AM (QkjLD)

274 Posted by: Agent Cooper at June 20, 2019 10:28 AM (iAwUQ)

So what do you think Iran will do if we don't do something? They are just going to stop their provocation on their own? How long should we ignore it?

As I said hard choices to be made. That said it's not an either / or choice.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 20, 2019 10:33 AM (e46OR)

275 268
Meeting at the White House this morning to discuss response to Iran.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at June 20, 2019 10:31 AM (hjaPQ)

I hope caution is urged. The knee jerk reaction is to punch back, but I don't think that's the right move. Not this time. Either call their bluff and let Iran continue to fall apart under sanctions, or let THEM escalate by attacking our personnel. Let the world see them force our hand, and that takes away alot of the political capital of picking a fight with us.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at June 20, 2019 10:34 AM (iAwUQ)

276 243 @realDonaldTrump 11 minutes ago

Iran made a very big mistake!

Probably gonna tighten the economic "screws".. Don't see him as much of a war hawk

Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2019 10:34 AM (O2RFr)

277 223 Have you heard? (Hello! How's your hearing?) (swidt?)

There is supposedly an eye doctor who has developed eye drops that dissolve cataracts. Saw a blurb on Facebook about it.

yeah, well, there was supposedly a dentist a few years back who developed a mouthwash that makes people immune to tooth decay. nothing ever came of that.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 20, 2019 10:34 AM (sGtp+)

278 I tend to get twitchy at the idea that all the symbolism was on purpose and intended. So I appreciate the possibility that the younger boy is in red just to make the composition balance better.

Still, as I write and the more I write, I realize that a whole lot of things are on purpose or at the least are a subconscious choice that the author/artist becomes aware of and then runs with.

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at June 20, 2019 10:35 AM (BD/yx)

279 267 Moore has scheduled a Thursday afternoon announcement in Montgomery.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Didn't Trump ask him nicely not to run?
Posted by: Agent Cooper
---
Trump and many others have counseled him not to run. It's widely accepted that he's going to run anyway. There's some interesting speculation that Sessions will jump in if Moore does run.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at June 20, 2019 10:35 AM (hjaPQ)

280 Poo-chee-nee. Pag-lee-ah-chee. Aren't these Italian. Isn't that way different than Latin?
The only Latin I know is what I've picked up in my studies, and that's only individual words. But I have no idea how to pronounce any of it.

Posted by: Kris at June 20, 2019

People called Romans they go the house.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 20, 2019 10:36 AM (OLCnA)

281 I only recently learned that Circe is actually pronounced "Keer-ke" in Greek

>>
And Siobhan is pronounce 'Shivawn'. Who'd a thunk it.

Posted by: FrodoB at June 20, 2019 10:36 AM (9753m)

282 Still no SCOTUS decision on census question....
maybe that will be the last one before they flee DC for the summer ?

Posted by: McCool at June 20, 2019 10:36 AM (KvRqW)

283 Trump and many others have counseled him not to run. It's widely accepted that he's going to run anyway. There's some interesting speculation that Sessions will jump in if Moore does run.

Moore is gonna lose if he runs... I am no fan of Sessions but he would certainly be better than Moore

Posted by: It's me donna at June 20, 2019 10:37 AM (O2RFr)

284 273 The Supreme Court says a World War I memorial in the shape of a 40-foot-tall cross can continue to stand on public land in Maryland.

The court has rejected a challenge to the nearly 100-year-old memorial. The justices have ruled that its presence on public land doesn't violate the First Amendment's establishment clause. That clause prohibits the government from favoring one religion over others.
Posted by: SMOD at June 20, 2019 10:33 AM (QkjLD)

____

In Butte, MT there's a 90 ft tall statue of the Virgin Mary. I'm shocked the ACLU didn't try to remove that. I guess they lost their chance.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 20, 2019 10:37 AM (FiUMj)

285 X-Ray vision... a blessing and a curse. A blessing
for the first few times you use it as the ladies walk by, and then after
a while, you realize you cannot turn it off fast enough to avoid the
traumatic sights that will give you nightmares the rest of your natural
days.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2019
*
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. . .

I didn't even know things had surfaces until I was five!

Posted by: Superboy at June 20, 2019 10:37 AM (ClOmq)

286 I want to give Kudos to Ace, CBD and the other cobs. Writing these threads is harder than I thought and I only do it once in a while. I cannot imagine doing it everyday, keeping it interesting, and not getting repetitive.

*raises glass*

Cheers!

Posted by: Kris at June 20, 2019 10:37 AM (OyyDO)

287 In its 5-3 decision, the court rejected convicted sex offender Herman Gundy's argument that in passing the law, Congress handed too much power to the U.S. attorney general in violation of a principal of constitutional law called the nondelegation doctrine. This doctrine forbids Congress from assigning its legislative powers to the federal government's executive branch.
Posted by: SMOD at June 20, 2019 10:33 AM (QkjLD)

You mean like declaring war? I mean, declaring an Executive Order to bypass Congress?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 20, 2019 10:38 AM (m79Dg)

288 You know who else spoke Austrian?

Posted by: B. Hussain Obama at June 20, 2019 10:38 AM (pfuwb)

289 So what do you think Iran will do if we don't do
something? They are just going to stop their provocation on their own?
How long should we ignore it?

As I said hard choices to be made. That said it's not an either / or choice.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 20, 2019 10:33 AM (e46OR)

I figure we ignore something like this. See my post above. They have to be careful too. They need to goad the US into a fight without it being an obvious, overt act on their part to start one. If they continue to up the ante until we are forced to retaliate, IE, do something egregious like attack our ships and people directly, they lose the public opinion advantage. We have to look like the heavy or it doesn't help them with either their own populace or the international community.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at June 20, 2019 10:38 AM (iAwUQ)

290 Trump and many others have counseled him not to run. It's widely accepted that he's going to run anyway. There's some interesting speculation that Sessions will jump in if Moore does run.

If Mo Brooks doesn't run, I still hold to my prediction that my Establishment Congressman Bradley Byrne will get the nomination. Jeff needs to either stay retired, or run for Governor, maybe Chief Justice if he wants to stay in the law game.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 10:38 AM (qiqGr)

291 @229

What rights did homosexuals not posses?

The right to marry?

There has never in the history of mankind been any concept of same sex marriage.

Gay marriage doesn't exist and never has existed.

It's a completely conjured concept that's been around for roughly 15 years.

It's never received the imprimatur from American citizens either through referendum or democratic representational means and institutions.

It was simply crammed down on us by black robed tyrants.

Posted by: Radical Centrist at June 20, 2019 10:39 AM (LfcES)

292 Nice work, Kris. And thanks to both you and CBD for putting it together :-)

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 20, 2019 10:39 AM (I2dne)

293 *raises glass*

Cheers!
Posted by: Kris

You're drinking at THIS hour ?

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 10:39 AM (L3Gls)

294 Did I notice disappearing comments again?

Posted by: IP at June 20, 2019 10:39 AM (cn3ZE)

295 Also, an OT call-out: I enjoyed the "The Wealthy's Analog Snobbery Shouldn't Crowd Out a Low-Tech Life For Those Who Need It Most" article in Sefton's morning report.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 20, 2019 10:40 AM (I2dne)

296 " I want to give Kudos to Ace, CBD and the other cobs. Writing these threads is harder than I thought and I only do it once in a while. I cannot imagine doing it everyday, keeping it interesting, and not getting repetitive.

*raises glass*

Cheers!"

It's easy for us up here in the cheap seats to toss aspersions at the players.

But frankly, I also don' t knowhow they do it.

Day in....
Day out.

And last year, the COBs didn't even get a COLA raise.

Third year in a row...no raise.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 20, 2019 10:40 AM (cqNba)

297 So where's our Sulla? It's about time for him to make his appearance again.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019
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Sulla: A well-connected aristocrat who takes over the government, proscribes (i.e., executes) a lot of troublemakers, thereby making his friends wealthy in the process . . . and then retires from public life, joking there is no one left for him to fear? And who finishes his highly egotistical memoirs a few days before he dies of natural causes?

Maybe we've already seen him. Suggestions, anybody?

Posted by: Superboy at June 20, 2019 10:40 AM (ClOmq)

298 104 When looking at the featured art I normally conclude that "I wouldn't hang that at a ratfuk." However after reading that insightful content I feel that I would be proud to hang that a ratfuk.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 20, 2019 10:01 AM (kfcYC)

Um, do you hang out at a lot of ratfuks?

1. Kerry is most certainly urging the mullahs to provoke a confrontation with the US, mostly because he's a treasonous fuck. Somebody needs to arrange a tragic...well, I won't go there out of respect for ace and the cobs.

2. It's Gracchi. Plural of Gracchus. Pronounced "grahkus." Depending on who you ask they were either noble reformers or base rabble-rousers. History is never as clear as we like.

3. And good morning Horde. May Murphy and Finagle be looking elsewhere when you pass your day.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 10:40 AM (RD7QR)

299 I only recently learned that Circe is actually pronounced "Keer-ke" in Greek

>>
And Siobhan is pronounce 'Shivawn'. Who'd a thunk it.
Posted by: FrodoB at June 20, 2019 10:36 AM (9753m)

There is a statue of the emperor Marcus Aurelius in Greece. The Greek writing of his name was Markos Aorelios Kaeser Aogotos. I don't think the Greeks were big on the letters C or U.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 20, 2019 10:40 AM (OLCnA)

300 "You're drinking at THIS hour ?"

Yes...a little late to be starting.

But, we'll allow it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 20, 2019 10:41 AM (cqNba)

301 And last year, the COBs didn't even get a COLA raise.

Third year in a row...no raise.
Posted by: Village Idiot's

But....FREE ka-Boom !

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2019 10:41 AM (L3Gls)

302 Third year in a row...no raise.

On the other hand, discount shelving.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 10:41 AM (qiqGr)

303 So what do you think Iran will do if we don't do something? They are just going to stop their provocation on their own? How long should we ignore it?

As I said hard choices to be made. That said it's not an either / or choice.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 20, 2019 10:33 AM (e46OR)

Just drop a few pallets of personal vibrators into Iran. Once the women discover their charms, they might calm down. A happy woman doesn't drive her man to political suicide to get away from her.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 20, 2019 10:41 AM (m79Dg)

304 208 Supreme Court rules cross monument can stay on public land.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2019 10:19 AM (PxX5

Any news on the double jeopardy case?

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 10:41 AM (RD7QR)

305 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Top o ta mornin to ya, gov'nor.

But the dental plan is fabulous.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 20, 2019 10:41 AM (u82oZ)

306 I only recently learned that Circe is actually pronounced "Keer-ke" in Greek

>>
And Siobhan is pronounce 'Shivawn'. Who'd a thunk it.
Posted by: FrodoB

Sean is pronounced Shawn.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 10:42 AM (sRczR)

307 Woke Capital

Salesforce has a new policy that bans retail customers from using its tech in the sales of a range of firearms, including semiautomatic weapons and gun parts like "multi-burst trigger devices."

http://tinyurl.com/y5fglskw

Posted by: McCool at June 20, 2019 10:42 AM (KvRqW)

308
The court has rejected a challenge to the nearly 100-year-old
memorial. The justices have ruled that its presence on public land
doesn't violate the First Amendment's establishment clause. That clause
prohibits the government from favoring one religion over others.
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And with all the 'no religion' nonsense, I wonder if they will go after Arlington.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 20, 2019 10:42 AM (MIKMs)

309 If Mo Brooks doesn't run, I still hold to my prediction that my Establishment Congressman Bradley Byrne will get the nomination. Jeff needs to either stay retired, or run for Governor, maybe Chief Justice if he wants to stay in the law game.
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Brooks seems pretty firm that he won't run. I agree that Byrne has to be considered the frontrunner. I don't really think Sessions will run, but it's interesting that it's being discussed so widely.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at June 20, 2019 10:42 AM (hjaPQ)

310 "Top o ta mornin to ya, gov'nor.

But the dental plan is fabulous."

Well...OK.

There's that.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 20, 2019 10:42 AM (cqNba)

311
You know who else spoke Austrian?
Posted by: B. Hussain Obama

Aussie Ausborne

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2019 10:43 AM (aKsyK)

312
So Googlag had nothing for D-Day but today's shitty cartoon is women's world cup day 14. 14 days of no one giving a shit

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 20, 2019 10:43 AM (OLCnA)

313 Time to work for my fringe benefits here at Festung NaCly, my burden of debt.

Have a blessed day, and may every traffic light turn green as you approach.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 20, 2019 10:43 AM (u82oZ)

314 >>Any news on the double jeopardy case?

Not that I've seen.

It is nice having a court where we now have a reasonable shot of winning instead of constantly losing 5-4.

It turns out Obama was right, elections have consequences.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2019 10:44 AM (PxX58)

315 "Women" is pronounced wi-men.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 20, 2019 10:44 AM (+y/Ru)

316 In its 5-3 decision, the court rejected convicted sex offender Herman Gundy's argument that in passing the law, Congress handed too much power to the U.S. attorney general in violation of a principal of constitutional law called the nondelegation doctrine. This doctrine forbids Congress from assigning its legislative powers to the federal government's executive branch.
Posted by: SMOD at June 20, 2019 10:33 AM (QkjLD)

This was an attempt to go after the administrative bureaucracy.

Posted by: SMOD at June 20, 2019 10:44 AM (QkjLD)

317 The court has rejected a challenge to the nearly 100-year-old memorial. The justices have ruled that its presence on public land doesn't violate the First Amendment's establishment clause. That clause prohibits the government from favoring one religion over others.

Posted by: SMOD at June 20, 2019 10:33 AM (QkjLD)

That decision alone stopped 100 idiotic lawsuits around the country dead in their tracks.

So far the SCOTUS has primarily been affirming long standing doctrine and practice, nothing very groundbreaking yet. One wonders if they're saving that til the end.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 10:44 AM (Kpl3J)

318 It turns out Obama was right, elections have consequences.

You're telling me, pal!Hic..

Posted by: Hillary at June 20, 2019 10:45 AM (cn3ZE)

319 Salty..

So Little VIA called last night.

Pretty much around the clock flight ops since they secured from Sea and Anchor leaving port.

Aircraft were on the cats even before securing.

He sounds tired.

But ready, if need be.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 20, 2019 10:45 AM (cqNba)

320 222
The Parkland sheriff deputies must have all transferred to Sacramento
PD. They left their fellow officer laying wounded in a backyard for
over 40 minutes because of 'gun fire' from some psycho husband. No one
with any guts in that department?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 20, 2019 10:21 AM (e46OR)
Saw that. Waited until an armored bearcat or something or other could get there. Really? Officer down and you aren't dropping tear gas and flashbangs on that a-hole shooter? Wow.I submit evidence #7,312,416 that you (and I) alone are responsible for your own safety. If they can't save/protect their own, how safe should you feel?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 20, 2019 10:45 AM (N39Ws)

321 OT:Jackson Kosco got 4 years.

Posted by: FrodoB at June 20, 2019 10:45 AM (9753m)

322 275
I hope caution is urged. The knee jerk reaction is to punch back, but I don't think that's the right move. Not this time. Either call their bluff and let Iran continue to fall apart under sanctions, or let THEM escalate by attacking our personnel. Let the world see them force our hand, and that takes away alot of the political capital of picking a fight with us.
Posted by: Agent Cooper at June 20, 2019 10:34 AM (iAwUQ)

I agree. I think the globalists would like nothing more than to see us get tied down in yet another endless Mideast war. And as someone else said, it would hurt Trump's re-election chances.

Posted by: rickl at June 20, 2019 10:45 AM (xjiRE)

323 It's easy for us up here in the cheap seats to toss aspersions at the players.

But frankly, I also don' t knowhow they do it.

Day in....
Day out.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 20, 2019 10:40 AM (cqNba)

Hookers and blow, my friend. Lots of hookers and blow.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 20, 2019 10:45 AM (m79Dg)

324 Smith is pronounced Throat Warbling Mangrove.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 20, 2019 10:46 AM (gC2IV)

325 LA mayor facing a recall election?

Posted by: IP at June 20, 2019 10:47 AM (cn3ZE)

326 Whoa, our military drones cost $180M apiece?!?! For $180M, the things ought to have cloaking devices, faster-than-light velocities, and they should sh!t gold eggs.

If we're going to spend that kind of money on drones, fly them somewhere that they are unlikely to get shot down!

Posted by: gp is covered with mucins at June 20, 2019 10:47 AM (mk9aG)

327 "Smith is pronounced Throat Warbling Mangrove."

Ah...so the 'Q' is silent at the end?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 20, 2019 10:47 AM (cqNba)

328 WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court declined on Monday to change the longstanding rule that says putting someone on trial more than once for the same crime does not violate the Constitution's protection against double jeopardy - a case that drew attention because of its possible implications for President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort.

The 7-2 ruling was a defeat for an Alabama man, Terance Gamble, convicted of robbery in 2008 and pulled over seven years later for a traffic violation. When police found a handgun in his car, he was prosecuted under Alabama's law barring felons from possessing firearms. The local U.S. attorney then charged Gamble with violating a similar federal law. Because of the added federal conviction, his prison sentence was extended by nearly three years.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 10:47 AM (qiqGr)

329 Oh hello terrible morning. I should probably tell work at some point that I'm not gonna make it today.

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at June 20, 2019 10:47 AM (0PDHs)

330 Double Jeopardy case decided a few days ago

SCOTUS will not change precedent on Feds vs State charges

http://tinyurl.com/y4e95uya

Posted by: McCool at June 20, 2019 10:47 AM (KvRqW)

331 Interestingly, the hook everywhere in the news is Manafort, not the continued loss of liberty.

JournoList lives!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 10:48 AM (qiqGr)

332 Is horseface Kerry advising Iran to provoke US
to drag Trump into war before election ?

Posted by: McCool at June 20, 2019 09:44 AM (KvRqW) "

Has Kerry been registered under FARA?
Has Kerry been debriefed yet?
If not, he needs a debriefing, good and hard.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 20, 2019 10:48 AM (1g7ch)

333 "I should probably tell work at some point that I'm not gonna make it today."

Won't they figure it out on their own, eventually?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 20, 2019 10:48 AM (cqNba)

334 329
Oh hello terrible morning. I should probably tell work at some point that I'm not gonna make it today.

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at June 20, 2019
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. . .
'Twould be the right thing to do.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 20, 2019 10:49 AM (ClOmq)

335 Will the time ever come when gays and lesbians will just be people with the same rights as everyone else while nobody cares what they do with their genitals.

Do what you want with your genitals but get out of my face, don't expect me to celebrate your lifestyle and don't attempt to destroy the rights of others.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at June 20, 2019 10:50 AM (JgA4k)

336 Whoa, our military drones cost $180M apiece?!?! For $180M, the things ought to have cloaking devices, faster-than-light velocities, and they should sh!t gold eggs.

Posted by: gp is covered with mucins at June 20, 2019 10:47 AM (mk9aG)

Drones shitting gold eggs could finance my Green New Deal. Can you, like, get them at Costco?--Crazy Eyes-Horsey Teeth.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 20, 2019 10:50 AM (m79Dg)

337 Fuck Roy Moore.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 20, 2019 10:50 AM (AM1GF)

338
What rights did homosexuals not posses?

The right to marry?

There has never in the history of mankind been any concept of same sex marriage.

Gay marriage doesn't exist and never has existed.

It's a completely conjured concept that's been around for roughly 15 years.

It's never received the imprimatur from American citizens either through referendum or democratic representational means and institutions.

It was simply crammed down on us by black robed tyrants.
Posted by: Radical Centrist at June 20, 2019 10:39 AM (LfcES)

I can't marry my sister or daughter, but you can. Therefore that's discrimination against me.

You as an unmarried person can marry a woman, but I, as a married man cannot. That's discrimination against me.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 20, 2019 10:51 AM (KUaJL)

339 337 Fuck Roy Moore.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 20, 2019 10:50 AM (AM1GF)

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Not my type.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 20, 2019 10:51 AM (gC2IV)

340 This was an attempt to go after the administrative bureaucracy.

Posted by: SMOD at June 20, 2019 10:44 AM (QkjLD)

It was an unusual grouping of Justices - Kagan wrote the opinion, the other 3 liberal Justices concurred, but so did conservative Alito. Roberts, Thomas, and Gorsuch dissented, and Kavanaugh did not take part in this one.

The central question was, How much power can Congress delegate? The majority said, basically, that if Congress wants to give away all of it's power to the Executive, that's their business, they can do what they want.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 10:51 AM (Kpl3J)

341 Any news on the double jeopardy case?
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 10:41 AM (RD7QR)

that was done a week or so ago.

No Double Jeopardy. As States and the Fed Government are 'different' Sovereign Powers, there is no double Jeopardy for both the State and Feds trying you for the same crime.

I find this, very troubling.

So, while I like the fact that they are doing a strict reading of the Constitution, like they did in the Freedom of Speech case where they said a Corporation does not have to follow the 1st Amendment, they are only doing these rulings in very limited cases.

And it sets up a dichotomy where a State does not have to follow the Bill of Rights, thus a State CAN Inhibit your Gun Rights.

Posted by: Don Q at June 20, 2019 10:51 AM (NgKpN)

342 Moore has scheduled a Thursday afternoon announcement in Montgomery.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2019 10:30 AM (aKsyK)
Didn't Trump ask him nicely not to run?

Posted by: Agent Cooper at June 20, 2019 10:31 AM (iAwUQ)

If you are a politician with the stank of scandal all over you, and you insist upon yourself in spite of it, your greatest crime is not the thing they have accused you of doing, it's your toxic narcissism.

Left and right. It's wrong every time. No matter what you claim you "stand for," because what this pig really stands for is his own ego.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 20, 2019 10:52 AM (a2xio)

343 284In Butte, MT there's a 90 ft tall statue of the
Virgin Mary. I'm shocked the ACLU didn't try to remove that. I guess
they lost their chance.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 20, 2019 10:37 AM (FiUMj)

Don't worry. That fight is coming as MT becomes more purple almost bluish.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 20, 2019 10:52 AM (N39Ws)

344 >>
And Siobhan is pronounce 'Shivawn'. Who'd a thunk it.
Posted by: FrodoB at June 20, 2019 10:36 AM (9753m)

oh, and that chick in Outlander - her name Laoghaire is pronounced "Lee-re"
who'd a thunk?

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 20, 2019 10:53 AM (dm05u)

345 Will the time ever come when gays and lesbians will just be people with the same rights as everyone else while nobody cares what they do with their genitals.

Do what you want with your genitals but get out of my face, don't expect me to celebrate your lifestyle and don't attempt to destroy the rights of others.
Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at June 20, 2019 10:50 AM (JgA4k)

Oh, you're no fun!--Spokesxir for the Giant Gay Conspiracy.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 20, 2019 10:53 AM (m79Dg)

346 McDonough v. Smith

Holding: The statute of limitations for McDonough's 42 U. S. C. �1983 fabricated-evidence claim against his prosecutor began to run when the criminal proceedings against him terminated in his acquittal at the end of his second trial.

6-3, in an opinion by Justice Sotomayor. Justice Thomas filed a dissenting opinion, in which Justices Kagan and Gorsuch joined.

Posted by: SMOD at June 20, 2019 10:53 AM (QkjLD)

347 "I can't marry my sister or daughter, but you can. Therefore that's discrimination against me. "

Call me

Posted by: West Virginia at June 20, 2019 10:53 AM (cqNba)

348 328 WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court declined on Monday to change the longstanding rule that says putting someone on trial more than once for the same crime does not violate the Constitution's protection against double jeopardy.

As we pointed out in the morning thread, the "long standing rule" has been that this practice is just fine, at least ever since those 4 cops were tried on Civil Rights charges for beating up Rodney King. SCOTUS upheld what we've been doing for the last 25 years at least.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 10:54 AM (Kpl3J)

349 319 Salty..

So Little VIA called last night.

Pretty much around the clock flight ops since they secured from Sea and Anchor leaving port.

Aircraft were on the cats even before securing.

He sounds tired.

But ready, if need be.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 20, 2019 10:45 AM (cqNba)

Hrm. Imma gotta work at work, but thank Little VIA for his service and let's hope it doesn't get more serious than what he's doing now.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 10:54 AM (RD7QR)

350 And it sets up a dichotomy where a State does not have to follow the Bill of Rights, thus a State CAN Inhibit your Gun Rights.

Posted by: Don Q at June 20, 2019 10:51 AM (NgKpN)

I think it was the 13th amendment that changed that. Used to be states could do that.

Posted by: Someguy at June 20, 2019 10:56 AM (EV0u2)

351 Whoa, our military drones cost $180M apiece?!?! For $180M, the things ought to have cloaking devices, faster-than-light velocities, and they should sh!t gold eggs.

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You can buy a new 737 for half as much.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 20, 2019 10:57 AM (9SkN+)

352 I read about a new drone recently that is supposed to be cheaper than existing ones. Apparently it would be used in groups or swarms and losing a couple wouldn't jeopardize the mission. It even had "expendable" in its name.

Posted by: rickl at June 20, 2019 10:59 AM (xjiRE)

353 You can buy a new 737 for half as much.

It's not a drone. It's a surveillance package that can loiter for days. 737s can't do that.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 20, 2019 11:00 AM (Boy/L)

354 I read about a new drone recently that is supposed to be cheaper than existing ones. Apparently it would be used in groups or swarms and losing a couple wouldn't jeopardize the mission. It even had "expendable" in its name.

My niece is a cog in the coding for that.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 11:00 AM (qiqGr)

355 I am pretty sure they don't actually cost $180m

Posted by: blaster at June 20, 2019 11:00 AM (9VeU0)

356
Whoa, our military drones cost $180M apiece?!?!

It's a "jobs" program.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2019 11:00 AM (aKsyK)

357 I am pretty sure they don't actually cost $180m

The bill is funding Area 51.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 20, 2019 11:01 AM (qiqGr)

358 351 Whoa, our military drones cost $180M apiece?!?! For $180M, the things ought to have cloaking devices, faster-than-light velocities, and they should sh!t gold eggs.

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You can buy a new 737 for half as much.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 20, 2019 10:57 AM (9SkN+)

You can't launch Hellfires from a 737.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 11:01 AM (RD7QR)

359 I read about a new drone recently that is supposed to be cheaper than existing ones. Apparently it would be used in groups or swarms and losing a couple wouldn't jeopardize the mission. It even had "expendable" in its name.
Posted by: rickl at June 20, 2019 10:59 AM (xjiRE)
++++++++++++
They'd better be a *lot* cheaper if they're expendable. This is one of the problems with top-shelf military hardware, especially when it meets budget-cutting that ends up reducing program costs but driving the unit costs through the roof. The B-2 bomber is a formidable weapon, but the unit cost is so high that every one is a precious jewel.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 20, 2019 11:01 AM (I2dne)

360 Whoa, our military drones cost $180M apiece?!?! For $180M, the things ought to have cloaking devices, faster-than-light velocities, and they should sh!t gold eggs.

If we're going to spend that kind of money on drones, fly them somewhere that they are unlikely to get shot down!
Posted by: gp is covered with mucins at June 20, 2019 10:47 AM (mk9aG)

Military hardware is expensive. Specialized intelligence collection hardware is even more expensive.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 20, 2019 11:01 AM (wCmLp)

361 And it sets up a dichotomy where a State does not have to follow the Bill of Rights, thus a State CAN Inhibit your Gun Rights.

Posted by: Don Q at June 20, 2019 10:51 AM (NgKpN)

Heller (200

was the first time the SCOTUS incorporated the 2nd amendment under the 14th Amendment, thus applying 2nd Amendment protections to the State Govm'ts as well as the Federal Govm't.

Incorporation of the Bill of Rights under the 14th Amendment, so that they also apply to the State Governments, has a been a very long, drawn out, and overly complicated process, going on for just about 150 years now. But we appear to have reached a point to where it is legally acknowledged that State Governments are just as tightly bound by the Fed'l Constitution as the Fed'l govm't is.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 11:01 AM (Kpl3J)

362 It's not a drone. It's a surveillance package that can loiter for days.

We have a bunch of guys like that down on Michigan Ave... probly hire them cheaper than 180 mil.

Posted by: City of Chicago at June 20, 2019 11:02 AM (cn3ZE)

363 Noodus Irania.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 20, 2019 11:03 AM (ClOmq)

364 And it sets up a dichotomy where a State does not have to follow the Bill of Rights, thus a State CAN Inhibit your Gun Rights.
Posted by: Don Q at June 20, 2019 10:51 AM (NgKpN)
I think it was the 13th amendment that changed that. Used to be states could do that.
Posted by: Someguy at June 20, 2019 10:56 AM (EV0u2)

Proof yet again that any rule can be perverted by the Courts. Here's the text of the 13th ...

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for
crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist
within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

It says nothing about the Bill of Rights, yet here we are, stuck with the notion of Incorporation - one of the biggest abuses of Federal Power in the history of the Republic.

The Bill of Rights was argued against from the beginning for this very reason. What started as ten relatively simple limits on Federal Power has been perverted into over twenty different means by which the camel's nose has been allowed into the State's tent.

Posted by: Inconvenient Truths at June 20, 2019 11:03 AM (GEo5Y)

365 362 It's not a drone. It's a surveillance package that can loiter for days.

We have a bunch of guys like that down on Michigan Ave... probly hire them cheaper than 180 mil.
Posted by: City of Chicago at June 20, 2019 11:02 AM (cn3ZE)

Do we have to use parachutes?

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 11:03 AM (RD7QR)

366 Nood chimp

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 20, 2019 11:03 AM (RD7QR)

367 Smart military blog.

Remember?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 20, 2019 11:04 AM (Boy/L)

368 351 Whoa, our military drones cost $180M apiece?!?! For $180M, the things ought to have cloaking devices, faster-than-light velocities, and they should sh!t gold eggs.
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Well each one does come with a solid gold port-a-pot for the technicians who work on them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2019 11:04 AM (Kpl3J)

369 The central question was, How much power can Congress delegate? The majority said, basically, that if Congress wants to give away all of it's power to the Executive, that's their business, they can do what they want.
Posted by: Tom Servo

What's their thoughts on Indian giving?
Once given away, do the get to take it back on a whim?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 20, 2019 11:04 AM (sRczR)

370 nood mullahs

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 20, 2019 11:09 AM (8D42x)

371 Who's doing coding and ship movements?

Opsec people! Dear doggies. /shakes head

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at June 20, 2019 11:11 AM (BD/yx)

372 Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said Wednesday that she does not trust Attorney General William Barr, adding that she is "afraid."

You should be. You should be.

Posted by: YODA at June 20, 2019 11:12 AM (QkjLD)

373 POLITICO: Senators get classified briefing on UFO sightings

Posted by: SMOD at June 20, 2019 11:17 AM (QkjLD)

374 NYTimes conspiracy theory:
Iran's Gambit: Force the World to Rein In Trump

She said Tehran had settled on a "two-prong strategy of showing that they, too, can apply pressure by being a pain but also saying, 'We're willing to talk.' "

And because Iran cannot defy American might on its own, it may be hoping to coerce European and Asian nations to rein in the United States.

The result, the experts say, is an Iranian strategy, rational but risky, that increases the likelihood of the nuclear agreement's collapse and even of outright war in the hopes of compelling the world to avert both.

Posted by: SMOD at June 20, 2019 11:23 AM (QkjLD)

375 Then came bad news from South Bend, the town Buttigieg leads as mayor. A white police officer had shot and killed a black man early Sunday. Buttigieg canceled several days of campaign events -- including an LGBTQ gala in New York -- and rushed back to Indiana to "be with the South Bend community," in the words of a campaign spokesman.

Instead of showcasing But�tigieg's ability to lead through a crisis, however, the shooting is exposing what has long been considered an Achilles' heel of his candidacy: his frosty relationship with South Bend's black residents. Since arriving on Sunday, Buttigieg has alienated the family of the dead man, Eric Logan, 54, skipped a vigil at the scene of the shooting, and sought advice from outsiders, including the Rev. Al Sharpton of New York.

Posted by: SMOD at June 20, 2019 11:26 AM (QkjLD)

376 Thanks Kris, this type of post is a great addition to the blog!

Posted by: ArthurK at June 20, 2019 11:31 AM (wTfoB)

377 As an artist myself, I really enjoy your posts Kris! Please keep them coming, it is such a joy to read.

Karen

Posted by: sunny at June 20, 2019 12:17 PM (lFuF3)

378 125 104 When looking at the featured art I normally conclude that "I wouldn't hang that at a ratfuk." However after reading that insightful content I feel that I would be proud to hang that a ratfuk.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 20, 2019 10:01 AM (kfcYC)

I always thought if I ever had kids that I would like a copy of this in the nursery.
Posted by: Kris

Do you have any rats? other than the rug kind.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 20, 2019 12:29 PM (kfcYC)

379 265 Looks like 7-2 with RBG and the Wide Latina dissenting

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RBG is proof positive that Satan uses his negative energy of pure evil to keep people alive.
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen

RGB has a portrait of a beautiful young woman behind a false door in her house.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 20, 2019 12:35 PM (kfcYC)

380 156 Wikipedia says Gracchi - as in the plural of Gracchus.

Well, if wikipedia says it, the science is settled.
Posted by: blaster

It doesn't say it any more. Now it just says. If the Graccii were still alive they'd tell you that Barack Obama is a jug-eared fuk.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 20, 2019 12:39 PM (kfcYC)

381 I enjoyed very much reading the description of the painting. I look forward to more by Kris in the future.

Posted by: sparks at June 20, 2019 12:53 PM (aWD5H)

382 I am late to this game but OMG thank you very much!!

Posted by: sinmi at June 20, 2019 03:38 PM (mhKNy)

383 My son wants a Corn Dog a small Coke and Chicken Strips and my Daughter wants small Cheese Burger a small &-Up and Fries

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at June 20, 2019 06:40 PM (wGqjj)

384 I cannot tell you how much I appreciate these art threads. My own art knowledge is quite limited; between your blog, and The Woodpile Report's art posts, I am enjoying learning in my latter years what I had no time for earlier.

Posted by: Linda Fox at June 21, 2019 01:25 PM (Wd13q)

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