Charles Lipson: Mueller's Sinking Reputation

Republicans add three more serious charges against Mueller. First, his team was packed with partisan Democrats, many closely affiliated with Hillary Clinton and strongly biased against Trump. Second, the report itself was shoddy and unfair, they say. It relied heavily on news articles, omitted exculpatory evidence, failed to investigate the infamous "Steele dossier," and never asked why, if Russians were trying to penetrate the Trump campaign, the candidate himself was not told by the FBI. Another serious charge -- deliberate distortion of evidence --comes from president's former attorney, John Dowd. He has shown the Mueller report edited one of his phone calls to change its meaning. Dowd is apoplectic, calling the report a "fraud." Others will join him if additional distortions, misrepresentations, and omissions are found.
Third, Mueller should have known at least a year ago, and perhaps earlier, that Trump and his senior aides never cooperated with the Russians. He had a duty, Republicans say, to disclose that in a timely way to the American public. He failed in that duty, leaving an unnecessary cloud over Trump and impeding his presidency. Why? And why didn’t Rod Rosenstein, who was supervising the investigation for the Department of Justice, step in and resolve these issues?
Of course, Republicans think the real subversion of justice was committed by the Obama administration’s DoJ, FBI, and intelligence agencies, both in their investigations of Trump and in whitewashing the email case against Hillary Clinton. Attorney General William Barr is already looking into those charges, as are DoJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz and U.S. Attorneys John Durham and John Huber. The chief judge of the secret intelligence courts, Rosemary Collyer, has already delivered a report to DoJ saying that the court was not given full, truthful information in warrant applications.
These investigations could burgeon into a catastrophic scandal, involving not only leaking, lying, and illicit spying but possibly collusion by U.S. government agencies to affect the outcome of an election. We don’t know that yet, and we don’t know the role the Obama White House played, but we need to know.
How do these issues affect Mueller’s reputation? First, his entire investigation was based on two fragile pillars, which Mueller never questioned. If they collapse, Mueller is buried in the rubble. The first pillar is the FBI’s dubious "origin story." The bureau states, and Mueller explicitly accepts, that its Trump investigation began in late-July 2016 after a low-level campaign volunteer, George Papadopoulos, spoke about Russia to an Australian diplomat in a London bar. Apparently, Papadopoulos also made exculpatory comments, which were not included (as legally required) in a subsequent search-warrant application.
But there is mounting evidence that Papadopoulos was not the first target and July 2016 was not the real starting date. Counter-intelligence investigations of Trump and his associates apparently began earlier and were never disclosed. Neither was widespread illegal spying on Americans by intelligence agencies and their private contractors. Still more surveillance was outsourced to friendly foreign intelligence agencies, which relayed their findings to Washington. Mueller never mentioned these problems -- and possible crimes.

This last bit is the most important, I think: If the DOJ, FBI, and CIA have to repeatedly lie about when and why this investigation started, that's proof that even they know that what they did was illegal from the start.

They want to claim the investigation only began when Papadopolous mentioned the rumor that Russia had Hillary's emails. But of course that's a lie, and already proven to be one; Josef Misfud, acting as a US agent, mentioned this rumor to Papadopolous, and then Alexander Downer, also acting as a US agent, catfished the rumor out of him and then reported it to his buddies in US intelligence.

But that means, of course, that Papadopolous was already the target of a spying/entrapment effort -- and that means the investigation began before the DOJ, CIA, and FBI will admit it did.

Why?

Well, here's one simple theory: They started the investigation based on the unverified, and often provably false, claims contained in a "dossier" based on Kremlin sources paid for by Hillary Clinton and the DNC. I would wager real money that never before in the history of the US has an investigation into a rival presidential campaign ever been predicated on such a vaporous foundation, and the DOJ, FBI, and CIA know damn well that this was unprecedented and very much Third World in practice, and so they're pretending the investigation began after they got some extraordinarily weak "confirmation" of the "dossier's" claims.

But, in fact, they began the investigation -- the spying, the framing, the inviting-Russians-to-a-dinner-which-Michael-Flynn-was-attending-to-claim-"Michael-Flynn-was-seen-dining-with-Russians" -- before the "confirmation." They began the investigation to get confirmation.

They began hiring spies and calling upon foreign intelligence services to infiltrate/frame the Trump investigation so then they'd have the pretext to investigate.

But that means, again, that investigation preceded "confirmation," and did not follow it, as they continue lying that it did.

At some point, this will become obvious, and the people pushing this lie are going to be exposed to perjury and jail time.

But they won't be charged and won't go to jail -- establishing beyond doubt that we live in a country in which government officials put citizens in jails for crimes that they themselves may blatantly commit and know they have full immunity for any prosecution for those crimes.

So long as those officials are acting in accordance with the Deep State's preferred liberal/Democrat politics, of course.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 12:15 PM

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1 >> If the DOJ, FBI, and CIA have to repeatedly lie about when and why this investigation started, that's proof that even they know that what they did was illegal from the start.

THIS

Posted by: Lizzy at June 06, 2019 12:17 PM (W+vEI)

2 This last bit is the most important, I think: If the DOJ, FBI, and CIA have to repeatedly lie about when and why this investigation started, that's proof that even they know that what they did was illegal from the start.

Burn them to the ground. I want a body count.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2019 12:19 PM (o+pgY)

3 Corgis called

Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2019 12:19 PM (o+pgY)

4 Damn. read it.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 06, 2019 12:20 PM (OX6sG)

5 2 Burn them to the ground. I want a body count.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2019 12:19 PM (o+pgY)

Nothing like IC Perfidy to work up a bloodlust.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 06, 2019 12:21 PM (sm6Pk)

6 We don't know that yet, and we don't know the role the Obama White House played

we know. it's been obvious all along.

Posted by: x at June 06, 2019 12:21 PM (nFwvY)

7 To all of us who have been paying attention, none of this is a surprise.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2019 12:21 PM (NWiLs)

8 Scream and leap!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 06, 2019 12:21 PM (ClOmq)

9 >>But they won't be charged and won't go to jail -- establishing beyond doubt that we live in a country in which government officials put citizens in jails for crimes that they themselves may blatantly commit and know they have full immunity for any prosecution for those crimes.

And that's how the fight started.

Posted by: Roy at June 06, 2019 12:21 PM (Zct75)

10
".... and ???"

~ The Swamp, The Democrats, MFM, Deep State, GOPe Cucks and other assorted fine sippers of penis.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 06, 2019 12:21 PM (8XRCm)

11 thanks for commenting on this.

It is frustrating to see that we're still in the era of John Doe politics in America. This is just John Doe II.

and our limpdicked cuckGOP doesn't care at all.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 06, 2019 12:22 PM (JziUy)

12 If the DOJ, FBI, and CIA have to repeatedly lie about when and why this investigation started, that's proof that even they know that what they did was illegal from the start

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la...la...la...lie?

you can't lie.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 06, 2019 12:23 PM (JziUy)

13 The Magnificent Orange Bastard has done it.

He's turned the Narrative. People in day-to-day conversation are talking about the corruption that spawned this investigation. All because the guy at the top had the nerve to call it what it is.

Never thought I would see this in my lifetime.

Posted by: Voter at June 06, 2019 12:23 PM (QfqyL)

14 DOJ, FBI, and CIA know damn well that this was unprecedented and very much Third World in practice

well, he was our first Third World president.

Posted by: x at June 06, 2019 12:24 PM (nFwvY)

15
You know it. I know it. No one else is gonna know it until we see handcuffs and confessions.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2019 12:24 PM (M9ntN)

16 Everybody in D C already knew Mueller was a dick. But you'll never hear that from the press.

Posted by: Vic at June 06, 2019 12:24 PM (mpXpK)

17 I saw limpdicked cockGOP open for Zell Miller at the 2004 RNC.

Posted by: Roy at June 06, 2019 12:24 PM (Zct75)

18 this stuff is so obvious. the question is...what are we going to do about it.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 06, 2019 12:24 PM (JziUy)

19 President Trump seems to have a fine sense of leverage and the weakness of his enemies. I predict either an extraordinary Maoist-style weeping, bawling mass public confession and prostration and groveling for prosecutorial mercy, or...prosecution. Hard-eyed, let's take it to court prosecution.
Hopefully outside the friendly DC jurisdictional bounds.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at June 06, 2019 12:25 PM (bvp+i)

20
He had a duty, Republicans say, to disclose that in a timely way to the American public. He failed in that duty, leaving an unnecessary cloud over Trump and impeding his presidency. Why?

We may never know the answer to that question

Posted by: The 2018 Midterm Election at June 06, 2019 12:25 PM (TAmPV)

21 All this makes me wonder, if Mueller was a Marine in Vietnam, how is it the no one fragged him?

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at June 06, 2019 12:26 PM (TkuZ0)

22 When will the jail terms start? That's all I want to know.

Posted by: Vic at June 06, 2019 12:26 PM (mpXpK)

23 >>We may never know the answer to that question
Posted by: The 2018 Midterm Election

Exactly.

We know. He knows we know. And what can we do about it? Nothing.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 06, 2019 12:27 PM (W+vEI)

24 What are we going to do about it?

Three choices:

1)Article V Convention to reign in the Federal Government.

2) Violent confrontation with our leftist masters.

3) Nothing. Continue to live in a corrupt third world shithole.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at June 06, 2019 12:27 PM (AYqju)

25 There's another article I linked to earlier on RealClear Investigations.

Scorched Earth': Mueller's Targets Speak Out

Veteran journalist Art Moore was editing a story on the Trump-Russia probe last October when he heard a knock at the door. He saw a couple of men in suits on the front porch of his suburban Seattle home and thought they were Jehovah's Witnesses making the rounds. But they weren't missionaries there to convert him; they were FBI agents there to interrogate him, sent by Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

https://tinyurl.com/y5cabb3l

The guy had a stroke after the 'interrogation'.

Posted by: Tami at June 06, 2019 12:27 PM (cF8AT)

26 But they won't be charged and won't go to jail -- establishing beyond doubt that we live in a country in which government officials put citizens in jails for crimes that they themselves may blatantly commit and know they have full immunity for any prosecution for those crimes.

So long as those officials are acting in accordance with the Deep State's preferred liberal/Democrat politics, of course.

Very true, perhaps save the last bit about liberal/Democrat politics.

The blue blood Dems and Repubs don't live by our rules. They live by their own. They are the ruling oligarchical uniparty and they say to the American citizen: lol;gf.

It's about sweetening the fat, fat wallets for multi-generations to come.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 06, 2019 12:27 PM (oFlMR)

27 Mueller was a Fixer.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 06, 2019 12:27 PM (oVJmc)

28 I would wager real money that never before in the history of the US has an investigation into a rival presidential campaign

***

In 1983 Ted Kennedy went to the Soviets and offered to "collude" with them to defeat Reagan. Keep in mind the Soviet Union in 1983 was our sworn enemy - not a rival like Putin's Russia - and was involved in major efforts to subvert the country.

If Reagan had then launched an unlimited investigation of the Mondale campaign in response to this he would have been impeached, convicted, and imprisoned with many Republicans siding with the Democrat majorities in congress.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2019 12:28 PM (WdocV)

29 from the previous thread...

pelosi wants trump in jail. presumably for being orangemanbad in the first degree.

The biggest case for national divorce that comes to me, which is mentioned in this article, is the idea you can get a jury full of angry partisan democrats in DC to do anything you want. Or in New York City.

So, you can criminalize politics on a state by state level.

well, fuckkkkkk that.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 06, 2019 12:28 PM (JziUy)

30 With Mueller, Comey, Brennan, and Clapper I think we should borrow a punishment from the failed Valkyrie operation, hang them all from meat hooks.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2019 12:28 PM (5WfEd)

31 21 All this makes me wonder, if Mueller was a Marine in Vietnam, how is it the no one fragged him?
Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at June 06, 2019 12:26 PM (TkuZ0)

because he spent most of his time sitting off in the jungle by himself, muttering about snails crawling on the edge of a straight razor.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2019 12:28 PM (Kpl3J)

32 Mueller's STINKING Reputation

#FIFY

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 06, 2019 12:28 PM (dm05u)

33 This is why Pelosi turned her rhetoric up to eleven.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 06, 2019 12:29 PM (gC2IV)

34
Everybody in D C already knew Mueller was a dick. But you'll never hear that from the press.

Posted by: Vic at June 06, 2019 12:24 PM (mpXpK)

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FakeNews - Mueller, Avenatti, Hollywood, MSM, Congressional Dems. Pelosi wants the President imprisoned. And yet ... And yet ... the MSM sits on its hands or actively publishes, streams, and broadcasts falsehoods. Ace sez nobody on the Left goes to jail. I disagree.

Posted by: mrp at June 06, 2019 12:29 PM (Pqytn)

35 All this makes me wonder, if Mueller was a Marine in Vietnam, how is it the no one fragged him?
***

John Kerry, a more self absorbed prick made it back from Vietnam in one piece. Of course in his case its that he committed war crimes with his boat mates and they all covered it up together.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2019 12:29 PM (WdocV)

36 We're never going to get to the bottom of this because there is no bottom.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 06, 2019 12:30 PM (+y/Ru)

37 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at June 06, 2019 12:30 PM (9gDA7)

38 Flynn made "contact" with the Russian "spy" in '14. DogEater and company are neck deep in this steaming pile.

Posted by: Horus Hearsay at June 06, 2019 12:30 PM (DB16e)

39 Shorter version.

Rules for Government are different.

We're all fucked.

Posted by: Sponge at June 06, 2019 12:30 PM (9gDA7)

40 Yeah, when you've lost Bill Maher.

Posted by: Redenzo at June 06, 2019 12:30 PM (14qvS)

41 Mueller *IS* the cover-up.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 06, 2019 12:31 PM (oVJmc)

42 If only the ghosts of the men who died in Vietnam and are buried at Arlington would rise up to haunt Mueller.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2019 12:31 PM (5WfEd)

43 We're never going to get to the bottom of this because there is no bottom.
======

I volunteer!

Posted by: Mayor Buttplug at June 06, 2019 12:31 PM (Ci+u3)

44 I saw limpdicked cockGOP open for Zell Miller at the 2004 RNC.
Posted by: Roy at June 06, 2019 12:24 PM (Zct75)

This actually happened.

Posted by: Sponge at June 06, 2019 12:31 PM (9gDA7)

45 https://tinyurl.com/y5cabb3l

The guy had a stroke after the 'interrogation'.
Posted by: Tami at June 06, 2019 12:27 PM (cF8AT)

To be clear, Art Moore didn't have a stroke, that was one of the owners of his publication.

But I think the real dirty secret of this story is that this is how the FBI has been handling *all* of their investigations for years, except for the ones they've been ordered to "fix" by the higher ups. Nasty, brutish, and vicious.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2019 12:31 PM (Kpl3J)

46 "Rules for thee but not for me" is the very essence of tyranny.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at June 06, 2019 12:32 PM (J+mig)

47 #28
In 1983 Ted Kennedy went to the Soviets and offered to "collude" with
them to defeat Reagan. Keep in mind the Soviet Union in 1983 was our
sworn enemy - not a rival like Putin's Russia - and was involved in
major efforts to subvert the country.

==================
And 1983 gave 1962 a run for its money as a year the US and the Soviet Union came closest to a Hot War.

Posted by: mrp at June 06, 2019 12:32 PM (Pqytn)

48 Waterboard them all.

Take notes.

Hang them all for treason.

America is Great Again.

Posted by: Sponge at June 06, 2019 12:32 PM (9gDA7)

49 I still think part of the Mueller investigation was to make sure the Russians DIDN'T actually have HROTTEN's emails.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at June 06, 2019 12:32 PM (Bnc4N)

50 Speaking of the jokes that are Mueller and Comey - have you ever noticed how they were unabashed failures at the FBI?
They didn't discover Whitey Bulger's control of the FBI, and Mueller in fact did a favor for Whitey.
They didn't stop 9/11.

They didn't stop the first WTC bombing.

They never caught the anthrax mailer - he was neither the first nor the second guy they pinned the blame on.
They blamed the wrong person for the Atlantic Olympic bombing.
Etc, etc etc...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2019 12:33 PM (WdocV)

51 according to Jack Posobiec Michael Flynn's new Lawyer is High Profile & on TV a lot ! DiGenova & Toensing ? or Rudy

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 06, 2019 12:33 PM (BqBId)

52 Jeannie Rhee seems nice.

The composition of the Mueller team is probably..in hindsight...something Trump should've demanded, at the actual cost of impeachment, be changed.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 06, 2019 12:33 PM (JziUy)

53 They began hiring spies and calling upon foreign intelligence services to infiltrate/frame the Trump investigation so then they'd have the pretext to investigate.

And there, of course, is the key conclusion: the "crime" was bootstrapped out of nothing. It was created in order to have an investigation. It was a political operation by political operatives operating under color of law. This SHOULD outrage everybody who loves the republic--but of course that assumes something.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 06, 2019 12:33 PM (RD7QR)

54 A few days ago I said that as time goes on and the background of the Mueller report comes out the media is going to act like they've never heard of it and the Democrats are going to sprint from it like a vampire runs from garlic.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at June 06, 2019 12:33 PM (hLRSq)

55 When The Rear Admiral's Weakly Substandard wrote a fawning article in early 2017 about the integrity of Mueller, that was the final straw.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 06, 2019 12:33 PM (y7DUB)

56 I blame Lee Harvey Oswald. Without Oswald, no LBJ. No LBJ, no affirmative action. No affirmative action, no Obama.

Posted by: Central Scrutinizer at June 06, 2019 12:34 PM (vI+F1)

57 If the FBI shows up on your doorstep, you speak only one word. Lawyer.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 06, 2019 12:34 PM (gC2IV)

58 I still think that this whole mess was driven in part by a desire to find some reason to investigate Trump so that the ongoing investigation of Hillary's emails wouldn't look so bad.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 06, 2019 12:34 PM (wCmLp)

59 I saw limpdicked cockGOP open for Zell Miller at the 2004 RNC.

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well, 20 years of the GOP trying to prove to the easter bunny that they're not as mean as the left makes them out to be ... by out lefting the left ... has not paid off like we hoped.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 06, 2019 12:34 PM (JziUy)

60 And 1983 gave 1962 a run for its money as a year the US and the Soviet Union came closest to a Hot War.
***

I think by 83 the Soviets knew that if Reagan got re-elected they were done for.

Speaking of which, Trump should publicly ask Putin to release the Soviet records on interference in the 1984 election.

Putin won't do it....but let's start asking about that...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2019 12:34 PM (WdocV)

61 Great post, Ace.

I want people in jail for what they've done. I don't think that will happen because everything is corrupt. Barring actual justice, I might settle for (not sure, just weighing some things in my mind):
* Dismantle the FBI. Completely. Gone. Everyone in management is fired and their pensions are withheld. Agents may be transferred on a case-by-case basis to other agencies, but with no guarantees.
* Serious house-cleaning at DOJ. Barring that, dissolve the DOJ and try again.
* Repeal the FISA and end the FISC system. Star chambers have no place in the United States. Are the provisions passed in FISA useful? Yes, probably. Are they too dangerous? Also probably yes. We should never have passed legislation that depends on honorable men to not overstep the bounds. Just because you have honorable men now, it doesn't mean the next man will be honorable.
* End warrantless wiretapping and metadata collection and unmaskings. Dissolve the NSA if needed. See also: FBI.
* Explicitly prohibit the use of friendly foreign agencies to spy on American citizens and then feed the information back to domestic agencies. Punishment is life in prison without parole.

We need law enforcers. We do not need these law enforces. We need intelligence agencies. We do not need these intelligence agencies. I want men in prison over this, but I might settle for sweeping reform and curtailment of power to misbehave again. I don't want that outcome, but I might accept it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2019 12:34 PM (I2dne)

62 To be clear, Art Moore didn't have a stroke, that was one of the owners of his publication.

But I think the real dirty secret of this story is that this is how the FBI has been handling *all* of their investigations for years, except for the ones they've been ordered to "fix" by the higher ups. Nasty, brutish, and vicious.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2019 12:31 PM (Kpl3J)

Yes, sorry...I was unclear. It was Joseph Farah, who was also 'interrogated' by Mueller's goons, that had the stroke.

Posted by: Tami at June 06, 2019 12:34 PM (cF8AT)

63 Everyone lies.

Cops lie.

The FBI lies even more than cops do.

Prove me wrong.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at June 06, 2019 12:34 PM (bcbK8)

64 If the FBI shows up on your doorstep, you speak only one word. Lawyer.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 06, 2019 12:34 PM (gC2IV)

3 words.

Fuck you. Lawyer. *bird flip with two hands*

Posted by: Sponge at June 06, 2019 12:35 PM (9gDA7)

65 Obama hated Trump for the birther stuff.

Likely he started spying on Trump in 2012 because of it.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2019 12:35 PM (WdocV)

66 Related. 1st amendment? Fvck that shit!

Charlotte Clymer
@cmclymer
Y'all aren't going to believe this... @laurenthehough--who you all know and love--has been suspended from Twitter for calling someone a "Karen". She reached out to me this morning and asked to post these screenshots.

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I have no idea what a Karen is.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 06, 2019 12:35 PM (+y/Ru)

67 I could see Putin releasing all those files just to spite everyone.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2019 12:35 PM (5WfEd)

68
The guy had a stroke after the 'interrogation'.
Posted by: Tami

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And that Jeannie Rhee. What a bitch. I hope people are learning from this debacle, DO NOT OFFER A CIVIL WORD to these agents of the Deep State when they knock on your door.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2019 12:35 PM (M9ntN)

69 re: changing the composition of the mueller team.

Sessions should've done that before he resigned. what a useless shit.

Rosenstein has to be a bad actor, even though he's very much pretending to be with the angels now.

Barr might be too buddy buddy with mueller to do anything.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 06, 2019 12:35 PM (JziUy)

70 Prove me wrong.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at June 06, 2019 12:34 PM (bcbK

That's not how it works anymore.

You're wrong.

Prove you're not.

Posted by: Sponge at June 06, 2019 12:35 PM (9gDA7)

71 50 Speaking of the jokes that are Mueller and Comey - have you ever noticed how they were unabashed failures at the FBI?
They didn't discover Whitey Bulger's control of the FBI, and Mueller in fact did a favor for Whitey.
They didn't stop 9/11.

They didn't stop the first WTC bombing.

They never caught the anthrax mailer - he was neither the first nor the second guy they pinned the blame on.
They blamed the wrong person for the Atlantic Olympic bombing.
Etc, etc etc...

Posted by: 18-1

they set a bunch of people on fire and killed them near Waco

Posted by: x at June 06, 2019 12:36 PM (nFwvY)

72 And, frankly, I suspect the Trump spying and smearing started well before the pee dossier. That, and the 'Russian Collusion' bullshit was a later addition to cover their stink.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at June 06, 2019 12:36 PM (bcbK8)

73 "But they won't be charged and won't go to jail -- establishing beyond
doubt that we live in a country in which government officials put
citizens in jails for crimes that they themselves may blatantly commit
and know they have full immunity for any prosecution for those crimes."

Boom. Thank you ace, because I keep in the back of my mind the image of justice being done and then the anger I feel when it doesn't happen is not good for my health. although its great for the boxing gym so its a wash I think. But if thats truly the case and the coming months will tell, then Heidi and I will buy a Heidi's Acres somewhere in a remote area of USA, turn off the computers, and hunt and fish our way through it.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 06, 2019 12:36 PM (OX6sG)

74 Obama hated Trump for the birther stuff.
======

Another bunch of grief perpetrated by Hillary Clinton.

May she rot in hell.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 06, 2019 12:36 PM (Ci+u3)

75 >>Jeannie Rhee seems nice.

She's the one who worked at the Clinton foundation before joining Mueller's "dream team," right? She's also the one who prosecuted the Russians on the assumption that they wouldn't fight back - but they showed up in court and destroyed her case, since she alleged the company had tried to influence the election before the company existed.

What did she do/say?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 06, 2019 12:36 PM (W+vEI)

76 And the FBI buried the Kavalec Memo.

Posted by: mrp at June 06, 2019 12:36 PM (Pqytn)

77
Rudy Giuliani plans to leave Trump legal team
*******
https://washex.am/2Z4iRgm
*******
What a Coinkydink

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 06, 2019 12:37 PM (BqBId)

78 I still think part of the Mueller investigation was to make sure the Russians DIDN'T actually have HROTTEN's emails.
Posted by: Captain Obvious

That's probably true as well. I'm convinced every one of our enemies has those emails. There's no telling the depth of the damage she did to us with that rogue server and her, and her staff's, inept handling of classified information.

Posted by: Biergood at June 06, 2019 12:37 PM (uGKH7)

79 Trump's finally gonna have to mobilize the one berzerker-force with the biggest axe to grind against the Feds, the G-men, the cops, the whole enterprise:

The trailer-park meth-head community.

Arm them. Drug them. Launch them.

Posted by: Zod at June 06, 2019 12:37 PM (Bdeb0)

80
This is why Pelosi turned her rhetoric up to eleven.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 06, 2019 12:29 PM (gC2IV)

Yeah she knows this could be an extinction level event for the democratic party.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 06, 2019 12:38 PM (TAmPV)

81 I have no idea what a Karen is.
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That's my mom!

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 06, 2019 12:38 PM (Ci+u3)

82 The trailer-park meth-head community.

Arm them. Drug them. Launch them.
Posted by: Zod at June 06, 2019 12:37 PM (Bdeb0)

It would be like Grand Theft Auto V, only real.

I'm for this.

Posted by: Sponge at June 06, 2019 12:38 PM (9gDA7)

83 I've said it before. We would know when it was fixing to get real. As soon as some of the fucked over players (Flynn) hired real lawyers and bring the fight out public.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at June 06, 2019 12:38 PM (jsWA8)

84 I've suggested before rebuilding the FBI from the ground up.

Let them finishes the cases they are on now....but no one can be re-hired to the new agency for say...5 years.

The new agency will be mostly populated by state prosecutors/cop and willl be headquartered in the center of the country....say St Louis (God knows they need all the help they can get there).

The head will be appointed by a majority vote of the 50 governors every 2 years.

Since they won't report to anyone in the federal government they won't have the current conflict of interest.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2019 12:38 PM (WdocV)

85 JEF started spying on anyone who got in his way long before Trump. He spied on hundreds of AP reporters, he spied on James Rosen and his parents, he spied on the Senate, he spied on opponents of his Iran deal, Lois Lerner sent millions of pages of private IRS information to Holder's DoJ, Comey had unauthorized FBI 'contractors' sifting through the NSA database--probably based on the IRS records--to find dirt on Obama's enemies / political opponents / detractors. The whole Carter Page FISA was an EX POST FACTO cover for the sh*t they'd been pulling for years. This has all been known for quite a while but is going to come out before too long. JEF's name has been pretty unsullied so far in this whole story. He isn't going to be that lucky much longer.

Posted by: Lawrence Larson at June 06, 2019 12:38 PM (Uu7xZ)

86 I have no idea what a Karen is.
=====

That's my mom!
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 06, 2019 12:38 PM (Ci+u3)

We didn't have that rule.

We started right in with "your mother."

Posted by: Sponge at June 06, 2019 12:38 PM (9gDA7)

87 If the fibbers show up at my door the first words out of my mouth will be "show me your warrant". No warrant, GTFO my porch and out of my yard.

Posted by: Vic at June 06, 2019 12:39 PM (mpXpK)

88 "Sinking" reputation? The Titanic has better prospects than his reputation.

Posted by: josephistan at June 06, 2019 12:39 PM (7HtZB)

89 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2019 12:34 PM (I2dne)

.....

I agree with you settlement packages, both A and B.

You will be given package C.

Package C includes provisions that give all the previous actors golden parachute payments, strengthens the power of all previously named agencies, and clamps down in dissenting thought such that should you complain, A.I. will capture your complaints, electronically flag you and this flagging will be used as proof that you can not be trusted with firearms and need to be audited.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 06, 2019 12:39 PM (oFlMR)

90 54
A few days ago I said that as time goes on and the background of the
Mueller report comes out the media is going to act like they've never
heard of it and the Democrats are going to sprint from it like a vampire
runs from garlic.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits,
Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at June 06, 2019 12:33 PM (hLRSq)

Well I certainly like the image of chasing them down, dragging them into the sun and pounding wooden stakes into their hearts.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 06, 2019 12:39 PM (OX6sG)

91 The Democrats find themselves bound to a false flag of Russian Collusion. To back down from it means ridicule and probably oblivion. So they pull out the can of gasoline and douse themselves. Right now they are flicking the Bic.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2019 12:40 PM (5WfEd)

92
as time goes on and the background of the Mueller report comes out the media is going to act like they've never heard of it and the Democrats are going to sprint from it like a vampire runs from garlic.
Posted by: Mikey NTH

======

True-ish. I don't think any noticeable, mass sprinting is going to happen until handcuff time.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2019 12:40 PM (M9ntN)

93 86
We started right in with "your mother."

Posted by: Sponge at June 06, 2019 12:38 PM (9gDA7)

A parallel to the now infamous "....in my ass" thread from a couple weeks ago?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 06, 2019 12:40 PM (N39Ws)

94 And I'm betting this ALL leads back to George Soros. He funds every anti-American project in the world.

The head of the snake must be lopped off.

Posted by: Sponge at June 06, 2019 12:40 PM (9gDA7)

95 So why would Flynn fire his lawyers?

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 06, 2019 12:40 PM (RD7QR)

96
Rosenstein has to be a bad actor, even though he's very much pretending to be with the angels now.

***

My guess? Rosenstein is on team Rosenstein.

When it looked like Mueller might take down Trump....and a greatful Dem president in 2020 would need a new head of the FBI he let Mueller free.

And when it was clear Mueller wasn't getting anywhere Rosenstein started shifting over to the Trump camp to make sure he isn't going to jail...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2019 12:41 PM (WdocV)

97 Of course the DC consensus has always been that this much-needed investigation preceded Papadopoulos.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg, sometime after the IG report at June 06, 2019 12:41 PM (pYQR/)

98 Could Flynn withdraw his guilty plea and go to trial, at which time he calls Mueller et al as witnesses to be questioned?

Posted by: Ha at June 06, 2019 12:41 PM (MAstk)

99 63 Everyone lies.
Cops lie.
The FBI lies even more than cops do.

Prove me wrong.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at June 06, 2019 12:34 PM (bcbK

Can't - I have a friend, a retired Secret Service agent with 30 years on the job (went to Moscow with Nixon) who always says exactly that - everyone lies.

The question for a court to decide is not who's telling the truth, but which side is lying more outrageously than the other side.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2019 12:42 PM (Kpl3J)

100 We'll know when Barr is about to pounce when Scankles, Holder, and Obama leave the country for a place with no extradition treaty with the US.

Posted by: Vic at June 06, 2019 12:43 PM (mpXpK)

101 I hope this drip drip continues until it's obvious to even the LIV that treason is indeed the correct term. I hope it comes out that O was spying on ALL the R candidates. And Bernie...

Posted by: zeera with a new book, link in nic at June 06, 2019 12:43 PM (T9rmq)

102 >>The head will be appointed by a majority vote of the 50 governors every 2 years. Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2019 12:38 PM (WdocV)

Zod will run the FBI. The emblem will be a mailed fist on a field of black.

The motto: Dura Lex Zod, Sed Lex.

"The Law of Zod Is Hard, But It Is The Law."

Posted by: Zod at June 06, 2019 12:43 PM (Bdeb0)

103 Jeannie Rhee seems nice.

....for me to POOP ON!

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at June 06, 2019 12:43 PM (eytER)

104 I would love to see Brad Pitt carve a swastika into Herr Muller's forehead.

Posted by: Avi at June 06, 2019 12:44 PM (kSq2k)

105 Slightly OT, but this has always bugged me.

Don't you think that if Schumer had been a Republican and he was speaking of Obama-not Trump- when he said "You don't want to go against the intelligence agencies. They have six ways to Sunday to get you..." he would have had his ass hauled into court to "explain" just what he meant and made to answer questions of just what he knew?

Posted by: JoeF. at June 06, 2019 12:44 PM (NFEMn)

106 Can't - I have a friend, a retired Secret Service
agent with 30 years on the job (went to Moscow with Nixon) who always
says exactly that - everyone lies.

The question for a court to decide is not who's telling the truth,
but which side is lying more outrageously than the other side.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2019 12:42 PM (Kpl3J)

I'm even beginning to think all your names here aren't your real names. That's how jaded I've become.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 06, 2019 12:44 PM (OX6sG)

107 revoke ALL security clearances after a person resigns, retires or gets fired.

and they cannot in any way, shape or form work as government consultants or lobbyists.

go get a real job in the private sector.

oh, and fire all those fuckers who knew, but did nothing.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 06, 2019 12:44 PM (d7Ww2)

108 I know nothing.
The last four years of the Obama presidency I was on a paste bender.

Elect me President. I am in PA, Paste Anonymous now.

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 06, 2019 12:44 PM (pw+jk)

109 98 Could Flynn withdraw his guilty plea and go to trial, at which time he calls Mueller et al as witnesses to be questioned?
Posted by: Ha at June 06, 2019 12:41 PM (MAstk)

I think he can, and if he does I don't think there will be any trial at all, because the "evidence" against him has collapsed completely. And a good reason for firing his old lawyers would be if they were telling him "yeah, we know there's no actual evidence against you, but just go ahead and plead guilty cuz it's a real good deal we got set up for you."

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2019 12:44 PM (Kpl3J)

110 Orange Man Bad's D Day speech.

https://bit.ly/2KvMHWT

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 06, 2019 12:44 PM (+y/Ru)

111 The press will help squid ink up all these deep state fuckwads' culpability by suggesting that Barr and Trump have their version of "truth" and the Brennan, Comey, Clapper, etc have theirs - who knows, right?

In the end it will all die just like the Bengahzi scandal died - in a heap of unresolved confusion.

Posted by: Boswell at June 06, 2019 12:44 PM (32YRo)

112 I'll support the upending of Hyde if the government pays for my walther

Posted by: REDACTED at June 06, 2019 12:45 PM (DPjeO)

113 Charles Lipson: Mueller's Sinking Reputation

-
Loose Lipsons Sink Shipsons.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 06, 2019 12:45 PM (+y/Ru)

114 I never pushed the Mueller Report. I never pushed the Steele/Shearer Dossier. In fact I've never uttered an unkind word about my President.

Posted by: David French. when the tide turns at June 06, 2019 12:46 PM (pYQR/)

115 Things are going to get weird. A lot is at stake.

Remember the scene in The Soprano's where Tony Soprano snuffed out his nephew because he became too dangerous?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 06, 2019 12:46 PM (vEIlU)

116

Your Mother Lies.

Posted by: Yahoo NotSerious at June 06, 2019 12:46 PM (UFLLM)

117 Has JackStraw been eaten by some sort of transdimensional monster?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 06, 2019 12:46 PM (9cans)

118 To all those who think no one is going to jail over this, I would normally agree...but Trump is the president.

If he wins re-election, he'll burn it down.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 06, 2019 12:46 PM (NFEMn)

119 "rhee! rhee! rhee!"

Wasn't that what Donald Sutherland said in a movie?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2019 12:47 PM (5WfEd)

120 I'd settle for Barky and everyone in his administration who was involved in this, incarcerated in Gitmo for life. FBI decommissioned and all executive level personnel banned from any involvement at any level of law enforcement. All media outlets involved have their license revoked. The DNC and the GOP RICO'd. All involved charged with sedition and jailed accordingly.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 06, 2019 12:47 PM (GFzsY)

121
Barr might be too buddy buddy with mueller to do anything.
Posted by: Keto not Beto

=====

One can only hope that Barr is dedicated to an ideal -- American justice -- rather than to friendly feeling.

Line from Milton (God speaking about Adam): "Die hee or justice must."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2019 12:47 PM (M9ntN)

122 Jeannie Rhee seems nice

Do you think she is actually supposed to be named Jeannie Li, but at the hospital her parents kept telling the hospital administrators "It's Jeannie Rhee, No, No, Jeannie Rhee!" and the staff just did the best they could on the birth certificate?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 06, 2019 12:47 PM (oFlMR)

123 114 I never pushed the Mueller Report. I never pushed the Steele/Shearer Dossier. In fact I've never uttered an unkind word about my President.
Posted by: David French. when the tide turns at June 06, 2019 12:46 PM (pYQR/)

Come over here to the Katherine wheel, David, we're going to discuss the part of the Bible where God smites the hypocrites.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 06, 2019 12:47 PM (RD7QR)

124 If the fibbers show up at my door the first words
out of my mouth will be "show me your warrant". No warrant, GTFO my
porch and out of my yard.

Posted by: Vic at June 06, 2019 12:39 PM (mpXpK)

===
I would seriously consider my response as pew-pew-pew-pew.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 06, 2019 12:48 PM (pw+jk)

125 84 The head will be appointed by a majority vote of the 50 governors every 2 years.

Since they won't report to anyone in the federal government they won't have the current conflict of interest.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2019 12:38 PM (WdocV)

===========

I've got a better idea:

A permanent bureaucratic class tied intimately to a single political party.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 06, 2019 12:48 PM (9cans)

126 In the end it will all die just like the Bengahzi scandal died - in a heap of unresolved confusion.
Posted by: Boswell

I agree, unless we have actual arrests. Even our corrupt media can't confuse the fact that people are being arrested and legally charged.

Posted by: Biergood at June 06, 2019 12:48 PM (uGKH7)

127 What does any of this have to do with the end of the world in less than 12 years!

Posted by: Oscazio Consquestidorio at June 06, 2019 12:48 PM (37IEG)

128 Everything by the book.

Signed.

Susan Rice

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at June 06, 2019 12:48 PM (Qyj93)

129
I am in PA, Paste Anonymous now.
Posted by: Joe Biden

=====

I thought once you joined you had to stop eating paste.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2019 12:49 PM (M9ntN)

130 When the threats to you and your family disappear, you can fight.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at June 06, 2019 12:49 PM (jsWA8)

131 Oh - as an honest aside, if Globawl Warmening were a genuine concern my fellows in Congress wouldn't be wasting any time on these piddly investigations.

Posted by: Oscazio Consquestidorio at June 06, 2019 12:49 PM (37IEG)

132 118 To all those who think no one is going to jail over this, I would normally agree...but Trump is the president.

If he wins re-election, he'll burn it down.
Posted by: JoeF. at June 06, 2019 12:46 PM (NFEMn)

==========

I fully expect this to be exploding right before the election.

If Trump is influencing timing, it's in an effort to maximize embarrassment to the Democratic Party.

And I can just imagine the DOJ filing shit tons of charges to prominent Democrats around convention time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 06, 2019 12:49 PM (9cans)

133
So why would Flynn fire his lawyers?

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 06, 2019 12:40 PM (RD7QR)

Judge Sullivan blew up at them for trying to play cutesy with the court when Sullivan gave them the opportunity to back out of the plea deal and go to trial.. Flynn might think he wasn't getting the representation he was paying for.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 06, 2019 12:49 PM (TAmPV)

134 Barr might be too buddy buddy with mueller to do anything.
Posted by: Keto not Beto

His reputation in tatters would be punishment enough,

Posted by: JoeF. at June 06, 2019 12:50 PM (NFEMn)

135 It has been my opinion for some time that Mueller is a sociopath. Today I found out one of the witnesses he had in his report by the name of Nader was found to have porn on his phone involving a child and a goat, along with other forms of child pornography.

Mueller let this guy leave the country, and charges were not brought until over a year later after the report was done. Mueller has his priorities, and they do not involve justice.

Also, another giveaway that Ace did not mention is that the FBI kept lying about when the investigation started. Originally they claimed it was with Carter Page. This, and the fact that all of the redactions they made were to cover up their own wrongdoing, shows mens rea. They knew they were guilty or else they would not have tried to cover everything up.

Posted by: Thatch at June 06, 2019 12:50 PM (4OOhb)

136 114 I never pushed the Mueller Report. I never pushed the Steele/Shearer Dossier. In fact I've never uttered an unkind word about my President.
Posted by: David French. when the tide turns at June 06, 2019 12:46 PM (pYQR/)

==========

"And I was right to push them anyway."
-David French, man of consistency

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 06, 2019 12:50 PM (9cans)

137 Remember when I texted that "the White House is running this"? I'll tell the truth about that right after my immunity deal.

Posted by: Peter Strzok, when the chickens come home at June 06, 2019 12:50 PM (pYQR/)

138 I would seriously consider my response as pew-pew-pew-pew.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 06, 2019 12:48 PM (pw+jk)

Heroic, but stupid.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 06, 2019 12:51 PM (NFEMn)

139
And I'm betting this ALL leads back to George Soros. He funds every anti-American project in the world.

The head of the snake must be lopped off.
Posted by: Sponge

I believe it's a multi-headed snake.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 06, 2019 12:51 PM (aKsyK)

140 >>124 If the fibbers show up at my door the first words
out of my mouth will be "show me your warrant". No warrant, GTFO my porch and out of my yard.

Trailer-park hootenanny.

"Tactical! Tactical! We're in the Cherry Arms trailer park off Route One, taking concentrated fire (rebel yell in background, barking dogs, a backfiring Camaro, gunshots). We need backup! It's a meth-head hillbilly massacre! Tacti..."

"Adam 12, are you there? Key your handset twice if you can....Adam 12??!!"

Posted by: Zod at June 06, 2019 12:51 PM (Bdeb0)

141
unless we have actual arrests. Even our corrupt media can't confuse the fact that people are being arrested and legally charged.
Posted by: Biergood

=====

Yes. Handcuffs and prison bars are VISUAL. Even if they aren't actually used, the word "arrest" conjures images that make people pay attention.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2019 12:52 PM (M9ntN)

142 126 In the end it will all die just like the Bengahzi scandal died - in a heap of unresolved confusion.
Posted by: Boswell "

I think we've all figured out that "investigation" was carried out by republicans who knew that Sen. John McCain was at the heart of the gun running conspiracy that was the cause of it all, along with some other GOP-e senators, and so their goal from the start was to whitewash everything.

Hillary and the rest of the Dems could always count on John McCain to do their dirty work for them, even to the point of throwing a national election when they asked him to.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2019 12:52 PM (Kpl3J)

143 I'm telling ya, Mueller's a great guy.

Posted by: Whitey Bulger at June 06, 2019 12:52 PM (1sNHT)

144 I know the FIB is in deep shit with the American public because the FIB is running "How Great the Diverse FIB Is" ads on all the cable channels.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 06, 2019 12:52 PM (pw+jk)

145 142 126 In the end it will all die just like the Bengahzi scandal died - in a heap of unresolved confusion.
Posted by: Boswell "

I think we've all figured out that "investigation" was carried out by republicans who knew that Sen. John McCain was at the heart of the gun running conspiracy that was the cause of it all, along with some other GOP-e senators, and so their goal from the start was to whitewash everything.

Hillary and the rest of the Dems could always count on John McCain to do their dirty work for them, even to the point of throwing a national election when they asked him to.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2019 12:52 PM (Kpl3J)

==========

Remember Rand Paul asking about the gun running in a committee hearing?

Good times...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 06, 2019 12:53 PM (9cans)

146
Do you swear to never tell the truth, to abhor the law and to destroy the Constitution, so help you Mao?

Great, here's your Never Go to Jail card.

Posted by: Debbie Wassermantest at June 06, 2019 12:53 PM (UFLLM)

147 Oh - as an honest aside, if Globawl Warmening were a genuine concern my
fellows in Congress wouldn't be wasting any time on these piddly
investigations.***

Yep.
During WWII the US government came to an understanding with organized crime and allied itself with anyone who would oppose the Axis powers.

Because the Axis powers were seen as a serious threat to America and the world.

No one, and I mean no one cares about globull warmenation. Even idiots like AOC jet set and eat burgers. Could you imagine a prominent American politician taking a vacation in Germany or Japan in 1940?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2019 12:53 PM (WdocV)

148 56 I blame Lee Harvey Oswald. Without Oswald, no LBJ. No LBJ, no affirmative action. No affirmative action, no Obama.
Posted by: Central Scrutinizer at June 06, 2019 12:34 PM (vI+F1)

Of course, this invites all sorts of speculation:
1. Would JFK get re-elected in 1964?
2. Would there be a Goldwater vs. Rockefeller civil war within the GOP in 1964, which weakened it then? And how much of that feud was incited by the blame throwing about the assassination?
3. Would LBJ run in 1968 then, and win, or not?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 06, 2019 12:53 PM (ujg0T)

149 It has been my opinion for some time that Mueller is a sociopath. Today I found out one of the witnesses he had in his report by the name of Nader was found to have porn on his phone involving a child and a goat, along with other forms of child pornography.
----------------------------------------------------------------

The MSM took the same story but played up the fact that he was a Trump "associate."

Posted by: JoeF. at June 06, 2019 12:53 PM (NFEMn)

150 very much Third World in practice

Yep. Right after we get the first "President" from the Third World.

Coinky-dink?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 06, 2019 12:54 PM (VNsf1)

151 122 Jeannie Rhee seems nice

Do you think she is actually supposed to be named Jeannie Li, but at the hospital her parents kept telling the hospital administrators "It's Jeannie Rhee, No, No, Jeannie Rhee!" and the staff just did the best they could on the birth certificate?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 06, 2019 12:47 PM (oFlMR)

Depends on if she's Chinese or Korean.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2019 12:54 PM (NWiLs)

152 The FBI should have known s year ago that Manafort and Flynn were........ squeaky clean when it came to the Russians ??
That at worst they were only lackeys of the Russian aligned Ukrainians

Posted by: Kurt at June 06, 2019 12:54 PM (XVon9)

153 Karl Denninger of Market Ticker commented on Zero Hedge a while back that the Trump spying began in 2012.

Posted by: shibumi at June 06, 2019 12:54 PM (sktRI)

154 117 Has JackStraw been eaten by some sort of transdimensional monster?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 06, 2019 12:46 PM (9cans)

Has he moved up to smoking PCP?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at June 06, 2019 12:54 PM (bcbK8)

155 We are past the point where even arrests will resolve this.

Even of the usurper Obama.

There are states that need to have that status revoked (California, Illinois, and New York just for starters). Agencies that need to be burned to the ground, their workers banned from ever having anything to do with government. Courts whose judges should likewise be removed, never to return.

The massive changes required to root out the full corruption are impossible in the context of normal politics.

So, what'll it be, America? Knuckle down, or kneel?

Because them's yer options.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 06, 2019 12:54 PM (AM1GF)

156 What are we going to do about it?

Three choices:

1)Article V Convention to reign in the Federal Government.

2) Violent confrontation with our leftist masters.

3) Nothing. Continue to live in a corrupt third world shithole.
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This seems aboutbtight, but I don't see 3 being a long term option because the left won't allow it. They will keep pushing with antifa and blm and lone wolf assassins until eventually a war is touched off.
I still say the 2020 elections will be when it happens. If Trump wins, the left will start a war. If Trump loses, the left will open the re-education camps and begin the political show trials and someone is going to fight back-which will set off a war.
I don't think Leo and the military will oppose the government. At least not in the beginning. The military has been purged of free thinking leaders. The good company and field grade officers were all purged under obama. All that remains in leadership are Obama's henchmen for the most part. Same things with senior nco's. At least in the army.

Posted by: Drc at June 06, 2019 12:54 PM (vbaSG)

157 >> If the DOJ, FBI, and CIA have to repeatedly lie about when and why this investigation started, that's proof that even they know that what they did was illegal from the start.

THIS

Posted by: Lizzy at June 06, 2019 12:17 PM (W+vEI)

and people better hang for it if we want to have ANY hope of staying together as a country.

otherwise, the Balkan war of the 90s is going to look like a playground disagreement.

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 06, 2019 12:54 PM (8D42x)

158 Uh oh. Bad news for the Ph.Ds!

Robot baristas latest automation push...

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 06, 2019 12:55 PM (+y/Ru)

159 148 Of course, this invites all sorts of speculation:
1. Would JFK get re-elected in 1964?
2. Would there be a Goldwater vs. Rockefeller civil war within the GOP in 1964, which weakened it then? And how much of that feud was incited by the blame throwing about the assassination?
3. Would LBJ run in 1968 then, and win, or not?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 06, 2019 12:53 PM (ujg0T)

=============

1. No
2. No. Rockefeller would have won the nomination and we would have gotten Rockefeller as president.
3. Yes. Rockefeller would have been terrible as president.

Crystal ball says so. Don't question the crystal ball.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 06, 2019 12:55 PM (9cans)

160 I know the FIB is in deep shit with the American public because the FIB is running "How Great the Diverse FIB Is" ads on all the cable channels.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 06, 2019 12:52 PM (pw+jk)

When I saw the first ad a couple of weeks go, I thought, 'Hmm. Never saw the Eff Bee Eye place job opening ads on tv before.'

Posted by: RickZ at June 06, 2019 12:55 PM (Y8PSl)

161 6 We don't know that yet, and we don't know the role the Obama White House played

we know. it's been obvious all along.
Posted by: x at June 06, 2019 12:21 PM (nFwvY)

This.

Also see #150.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 06, 2019 12:55 PM (VNsf1)

162 No, no, no, this had nothing to do with infiltrating the Trump campaign. Really it's OK, I was just after the jews.

Posted by: Samanta Powers, when Durham comes to call at June 06, 2019 12:55 PM (pYQR/)

163 >>3. Would LBJ run in 1968 then, and win, or not?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 06, 2019 12:53 PM (ujg0T)

Here's hoping Robert Caro manages to finish the fifth and final volume of his five-part LBJ biography. For a penetrating study of a man, his work is hard to beat.

Strength to his hand.

Posted by: Zod at June 06, 2019 12:55 PM (Bdeb0)

164 I blame Lee Harvey Oswald. Without Oswald, no LBJ. No LBJ, no affirmative action. No affirmative action, no Obama.
Posted by: Central Scrutinizer at June 06, 2019 12:34 PM (vI+F1)

Of course, this invites all sorts of speculation:
1. Would JFK get re-elected in 1964?
2. Would there be a Goldwater vs. Rockefeller civil war within the GOP in 1964, which weakened it then? And how much of that feud was incited by the blame throwing about the assassination?
3. Would LBJ run in 1968 then, and win, or not?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 06, 2019 12:53 PM (ujg0T)

If Kennedy doesn't get assassinated, The Beatles don't get HUGE and what we know of as "the 60's" doesn't happen....

Posted by: JoeF. at June 06, 2019 12:55 PM (NFEMn)

165
Yep.During WWII the US government came to an understanding with organized crime and allied itself with anyone who would oppose the Axis powers.

Because the Axis powers were seen as a serious threat to America and the world.

The amount of US supplies that went missing in Italy is staggering.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 06, 2019 12:55 PM (TAmPV)

166 154 Has JackStraw been eaten by some sort of transdimensional monster?
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167 I read the article, and am not impressed by its Pollyannaish faith in proper FBI procedure. In case anyone forgot, Mueller:

- perjured himself by editing a voicemail sent to Michael Flynn to convey an impression opposite of the true intention. Deliberately misrepresenting a conversation this way is prosecutorial misconduct.
- hid the child pornography arrests of a key witness that the FBI tried to "associate" with Trump as a spy. He is now under arrest for yet another child porn charge.

This is a truly disgusting man, and that on top of the legal arguments Lipsson makes shows we have a legal system in terminal decline. Regular Americans are more likely to take their chances with the Mafia.

Does no one register what is being done to this country?

Posted by: trev006 at June 06, 2019 12:56 PM (9jPzf)

168 160 I know the FIB is in deep shit with the American public because the FIB is running "How Great the Diverse FIB Is" ads on all the cable channels.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 06, 2019 12:52 PM (pw+jk)

My family and I happened to be watching a segment of "FBI Files" on Youtube that featured a self-serving intro by Mueller.

We laughed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 06, 2019 12:56 PM (VNsf1)

169 "They began the investigation to get confirmation."

Hillary was found to be vulnerable on Uranium One and the bribes (and Skolkovo favors also big, still less noticed) ... with her Reset button (and Obama flexible to Russia) ... she had to beef up her "Tuff on Russia" propaganda.

Trump was strong on patriotism ... so one of their geniuses (CIA/FBI/DNC or specific Clinton insiders) .. figured out Framing Trump as a Russian Stooge would work. They knew it was a lie from the start ... the "investigation" might help find something dirty, but mostly it was their old tactic going back to Lerner with the FEC (on behalf of Durbin) ... putting the opponent "Under Investigation" (for a rigged charge).

It was pure smear, they KNEW there was no confirmation to find, because THEY had fabricated the charge out of thin air. imo Rosenstein was as deep in it as Mueller, who went for the ride with the real DeepState "mafiosa". (Blumenthal, Brennan, others that do the dirty tricks, like Creamer) There was never going to be real confirmation, only confirmation they had fabricated. ("oh look, Don Jr met with a Russkie spy", which they sent there)

Posted by: illiniwek at June 06, 2019 12:56 PM (Cus5s)

170

Ya gotta wean off the paste slow man, or you'll have seizures 'n shit... look at Miley Cyrus!

Posted by: Window Licking Short Buser at June 06, 2019 12:56 PM (UFLLM)

171 154 117 Has JackStraw been eaten by some sort of transdimensional monster?
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Has he moved up to smoking PCP?
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Running a bag of money and rifles into Yemen as a favor to JSOC. Hey, how do you think he knows all this stuff?

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 06, 2019 12:56 PM (RD7QR)

172
His reputation in tatters would be punishment enough,
Posted by: JoeF.

=====

People are talking about what they'd settle for, and I'd be willing to skip the arrests if the bad guys are forced to make public confessions and apologies. Yes, ALL the underlings, and ALL those liberal gods and goddesses up to Hillary going on camera and making unambiguous statements of their actions and motives. You could stop short of Obama -- their statements would ineluctably condemn him.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2019 12:56 PM (M9ntN)

173 "Also, another giveaway that Ace did not mention is that the FBI kept lying about when the investigation started. Originally they claimed it was with Carter Page."

I recall even some on the right saying "well Carter Page must have been a plant, his name keeps coming up". But Carter Page had *every* aspect of his life dissected, multiple FBI agents tore apart every word he said, every line he wrote, every move he made for 4 years or so. And after all that, they could not come up with one SINGLE thing that they could charge him with - that is really amazing!

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2019 12:57 PM (Kpl3J)

174 171 154 117 Has JackStraw been eaten by some sort of transdimensional monster?
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Some people are living their best life.

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175 173 "Also, another giveaway that Ace did not mention is that the FBI kept lying about when the investigation started. Originally they claimed it was with Carter Page."

I recall even some on the right saying "well Carter Page must have been a plant, his name keeps coming up". But Carter Page had *every* aspect of his life dissected, multiple FBI agents tore apart every word he said, every line he wrote, every move he made for 4 years or so. And after all that, they could not come up with one SINGLE thing that they could charge him with - that is really amazing!
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176 >>Has he started injecting heroin into his eyeballs?
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First the buzzcut, then the eyeball-junk, then the official tattooing.

Posted by: Zod at June 06, 2019 12:57 PM (Bdeb0)

177 Hillary and the rest of the Dems could always count on John McCain to do their dirty work for them, even to the point of throwing a national election when they asked him to.

Posted by: Tom Servo

McCain was always the turd in the GOP punch bowl - and he would absolutely be giddy knowing he continues to stink up the joint long after he was buried.

Posted by: Boswell at June 06, 2019 12:57 PM (32YRo)

178 I'll be shocked if anyone goes to jail or is held too account for this whole mess.

People are taking notes. The whiplash when it happens will shock and baffle the low info clueless majority.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at June 06, 2019 12:57 PM (0OmEj)

179 158 Uh oh. Bad news for the Ph.Ds!

Robot baristas latest automation push...
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Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 06, 2019 12:57 PM (RD7QR)

180 I know the FIB is in deep shit with the American
public because the FIB is running "How Great the Diverse FIB Is" ads on
all the cable channels.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 06, 2019 12:52 PM (pw+jk)

When I saw the first ad a couple of weeks go, I thought, 'Hmm. Never saw the Eff Bee Eye place job opening ads on tv before.'

Posted by: RickZ at June 06, 2019 12:55 PM (Y8PSl)

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Those are not help wanted ads. These are full blown public image rehabilitation campaigns.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 06, 2019 12:58 PM (pw+jk)

181 126 In the end it will all die just like the Bengahzi scandal died - in a heap of unresolved confusion.
Posted by: Boswell

Except the Benghazi scandal produced Hillary's illegal server which made people look at Comey/FBI which may, in the end, mean something.

Posted by: dagny at June 06, 2019 12:58 PM (nRWPy)

182 Hillary was supposed to win. The wisest of the Wise Men said so. Experts!

Posted by: mrp at June 06, 2019 12:58 PM (Pqytn)

183 166 154 Has JackStraw been eaten by some sort of transdimensional monster?
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184 176 >>Has he started injecting heroin into his eyeballs?
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First the buzzcut, then the eyeball-junk, then the official tattooing.
Posted by: Zod at June 06, 2019 12:57 PM (Bdeb0)

All tattooing shall be self-administered.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2019 12:58 PM (NWiLs)

185 @JPickover

An unexpected soundbite from #DD75 veteran Thomas Cuthbert today. He jokingly tells @realDonaldTrump that if 'only he was 20 years younger' while pointing to the First Lady

Video:

https://tinyurl.com/y42c4c7x

Posted by: Tami at June 06, 2019 12:58 PM (cF8AT)

186 If Kennedy doesn't get assassinated, The Beatles don't get HUGE and what we know of as "the 60's" doesn't happen....
Posted by: JoeF. at June 06, 2019 12:55 PM (NFEMn)

Why not? I could still see a British invasion happening, just because the music scene in 1963 was pretty staid.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 06, 2019 12:58 PM (ujg0T)

187
The amount of US supplies that went missing in Italy is staggering.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 06, 2019 12:55 PM (TAmPV)
Reminds me of the pallets of money that went missing in Iran.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 06, 2019 12:58 PM (37IEG)

188

JackStraw? He's behind that clump of bushes over there. No, to the left. Ya, under the dirt pile.

Posted by: Ft. Mary Park at June 06, 2019 12:58 PM (UFLLM)

189 164 I blame Lee Harvey Oswald. Without Oswald, no LBJ. No LBJ, no affirmative action. No affirmative action, no Obama.
Posted by: Central Scrutinizer at June 06, 2019 12:34 PM (vI+F1)

I blame Joseph Kennedy, who was a complete scoundrel, and who propelled his incompetent son - a Celtic affirmative action lightweight, a forerunner to Obama in that regard - into the White House.

If Joseph Kennedy had had his balls cut off at a young age, this country would be a much better place.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 06, 2019 12:58 PM (VNsf1)

190 Is this one of those Loretta Lynch immunity deals where the Feds give a get out of jail free card in return to answers to hard hitting questions like
What's your favorite color?
If there was crime, did you knowingly intentionally break a law or did some people do some things?
At this point, does it matter?
Do you have any evidence of any crimes or payments or meetings, and if so, does that evidence fit in this incinerator?

Posted by: Downcast at June 06, 2019 12:59 PM (7e/fr)

191 183
Has he started injecting heroin into his eyeballs?
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192 Free at last! Free at last! Thank ~~God Almighty~~ bat guano Democrats, we're free at last!

Oakland decriminalizes magic mushrooms, other psychedelics...

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193 179 158 Uh oh. Bad news for the Ph.Ds!

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Well, it'll take awhile to perfect the Contemptuous Incompetence module.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 06, 2019 12:57 PM (RD7QR)

Will "Marc with a C" still be written as "Cmark"?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2019 12:59 PM (NWiLs)

194
People are talking about what they'd settle for, and I'd be willing to skip the arrests if the bad guys are forced to make public confessions and apologies.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2019 12:56 PM (M9ntN)

And lose their pensions.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 06, 2019 12:59 PM (TAmPV)

195 Package C includes provisions that give all the previous actors golden parachute payments, strengthens the power of all previously named agencies, and clamps down in dissenting thought such that should you complain, A.I. will capture your complaints, electronically flag you and this flagging will be used as proof that you can not be trusted with firearms and need to be audited.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 06, 2019 12:39 PM (oFlMR)
++++++++++++
Don't I know it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2019 12:59 PM (I2dne)

196 >>All tattooing shall be self-administered.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2019 12:58 PM (NWiLs)

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Posted by: Zod at June 06, 2019 12:59 PM (Bdeb0)

197 Ahoy! Sinking is not a word we like to use.

Posted by: Cap'n Bill at June 06, 2019 12:59 PM (x7iKl)

198 197 Ahoy! Sinking is not a word we like to use.
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You should probably get used to it, though.

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199 25
There's another article I linked to earlier on RealClear Investigations.

Scorched Earth': Mueller's Targets Speak Out

Veteran journalist Art Moore was editing a story on the Trump-Russia
probe last October when he heard a knock at the door. He saw a couple
of men in suits on the front porch of his suburban Seattle home and
thought they were Jehovah's Witnesses making the rounds. But they
weren't missionaries there to convert him; they were FBI agents there to
interrogate him, sent by Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

https://tinyurl.com/y5cabb3l

The guy had a stroke after the 'interrogation'.

Posted by: Tami at June 06, 2019 12:27 PM (cF8AT)

Jeebus, when you read that article, the Muller team really comes off as complete weasels and quite paranoid about the Hillary Clinton Wikileaks.
That Rhee character is really a piece of work. Why was she part of an investigation where she clearly had a conflict of interest?

What an extraordinary shit show the Mueller thing is. It's literally everything that the left wished they could have hung on the Watergate team.....but instead they did it.
Hillary said jump and they all said "Yes, Maam, how high and how often"

This this moves into legit evil category, I do not say that lightly.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 06, 2019 01:00 PM (ymnmz)

200 194

People are talking about what they'd settle for, and I'd be willing
to skip the arrests if the bad guys are forced to make public
confessions and apologies.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2019 12:56 PM (M9ntN)

And lose their pensions.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 06, 2019 12:59 PM (TAmPV)
Not.Enough.We're talking attempted overthrow here.Not just no, hell no.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 06, 2019 01:00 PM (37IEG)

201 We now know that Mueller is very sensitive to how the media covers him. I take great pleasure in knowing this has to be very uncomfortable for him.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 06, 2019 01:00 PM (gC2IV)

202 Except the Benghazi scandal produced Hillary's illegal server which made people look at Comey/FBI which may, in the end, mean something.

Posted by: dagny

Hmm - never that about it that way but you may be on to something there - so instant karma gonna get Hillary in the end?

Posted by: Boswell at June 06, 2019 01:01 PM (32YRo)

203 We are being invaded from the south like a tsunami, no ebbing of the flow of illegals. Even with all of this exposure of lies and treason, the Dems are still winning. The Republicans are even balking at the very idea of tariffs to goad Mexico into action. The border patrol is imploring for assistance. The detention centers have to release thousands as there is no room. This is an enormous crisis.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 06, 2019 01:01 PM (EjlXc)

204 Does no one register what is being done to this country?

As long as people have their smart phones, interweb pron and gubbermint free shit, not only does it not register, they do not care.

Posted by: shibumi at June 06, 2019 01:01 PM (sktRI)

205 This is me waving goodbye to Joe Biden.

*waves*

What did Biden know about this and when did he know it?

Think the media will ask? No, me either.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 06, 2019 01:01 PM (VpIIl)

206 199 What an extraordinary shit show the Mueller thing is. It's literally everything that the left wished they could have hung on the Watergate team.....but instead they did it.
Hillary said jump and they all said "Yes, Maam, how high and how often"

This this moves into legit evil category, I do not say that lightly.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 06, 2019 01:00 PM (ymnmz)

==========

And Trump is still president.

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207 Barr might be too buddy buddy with mueller to do anything.
Posted by: Keto not Beto

Barr, more than anything or anyone else, gives me hope that we might just see a bit of justice out of all this.

Posted by: pep at June 06, 2019 01:01 PM (wW03z)

208 As long as people have their smart phones, interweb pron and gubbermint free shit, not only does it not register, they do not care.

Two out of three ain't bad, I guess.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2019 01:01 PM (NWiLs)

209 Hillary said jump and they all said "Yes, Maam, how high and how often"

This this moves into legit evil category, I do not say that lightly.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 06, 2019 01:00 PM (ymnmz)

THIS

Posted by: JoeF. at June 06, 2019 01:02 PM (NFEMn)

210 207 Barr might be too buddy buddy with mueller to do anything.
Posted by: Keto not Beto

Barr, more than anything or anyone else, gives me hope that we might just see a bit of justice out of all this.
Posted by: pep at June 06, 2019 01:01 PM (wW03z)

==========

Barr obviously hates what Obama did to the DOJ and FBI. He's also pretty pissy with how Mueller ran his special council investigation.

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211 Hmm - never that about it that way but you may be on to something there - so instant karma gonna get Hillary in the end?

The jury is still out. But I eventually will get her.

Posted by: Satan, CEO of Hell Inc. at June 06, 2019 01:02 PM (sktRI)

212 John Brennan? The name sounds a little familiar but I have no specific recollection of ever discussing anything with him or her.

Posted by: Susan Rice, when the grand jury calls at June 06, 2019 01:02 PM (pYQR/)

213
158 Uh oh. Bad news for the Ph.Ds!

Robot baristas latest automation push...

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Posted by: Anachronda at June 06, 2019 01:02 PM (sGtp+)

214 ugly Korean chicks are the worst people on earth because their culture tells them they have no value.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 06, 2019 01:02 PM (JziUy)

215 203 We are being invaded from the south like a tsunami, no ebbing of the flow of illegals. Even with all of this exposure of lies and treason, the Dems are still winning. The Republicans are even balking at the very idea of tariffs to goad Mexico into action. The border patrol is imploring for assistance. The detention centers have to release thousands as there is no room. This is an enormous crisis.
Posted by: washrivergal at June 06, 2019 01:01 PM (EjlXc)

Our elites have found us unsatisfactory so we're being replaced. Also, immigration is a weapon and Trump and you and me are the target.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 06, 2019 01:03 PM (RD7QR)

216 The Republicans are even balking at the very idea of tariffs to goad Mexico into action.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 06, 2019 01:01 PM (EjlXc)

Congress *hates you* and is doing its best to help MS-13 turn you into a helpless Mexican peasant. Will you live like that?

Posted by: trev006 at June 06, 2019 01:03 PM (9jPzf)

217 As long as people have their smart phones, interweb
pron and gubbermint free shit, not only does it not register, they do
not care.

Posted by: shibumi at June 06, 2019 01:01 PM (sktRI)
Which will make the divorce that much more interesting. Because they won't be trying to get free shit from "our side". But the other side? Heh."The free shit must flow" or they'll have 2 revolutions on their hands.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 06, 2019 01:03 PM (37IEG)

218 "Oakland decriminalizes magic mushrooms, other psychedelics..."

It was funny to see a reference to this in Sunday's "Hagar the Horrible" comic, of all places.

Posted by: Chris M at June 06, 2019 01:03 PM (eAZVt)

219
Not.Enough.We're talking attempted overthrow here.Not just no, hell no.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 06, 2019 01:00 PM (37IEG)

You have to give some of the low hanging fruit a deal to turn on the big fish.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 06, 2019 01:03 PM (TAmPV)

220 PDT gave a great speech at Normandy. Proud of POTUS. Melania beautiful as always!

Posted by: Jmel at June 06, 2019 01:03 PM (ISXBo)

221
206 199 What an extraordinary shit show the Mueller thing is. It's literally everything that the left wished they could have hung on the Watergate team.....but instead they did it.
Hillary said jump and they all said "Yes, Maam, how high and how often"

This this moves into legit evil category, I do not say that lightly.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 06, 2019 01:00 PM (ymnmz)

==========

And Trump is still president.

but the walls are closing in

Posted by: Anachronda at June 06, 2019 01:03 PM (sGtp+)

222 It was Brennan.

Posted by: James Comey, when the indictments star coming down at June 06, 2019 01:03 PM (pYQR/)

223 209 Hillary said jump and they all said "Yes, Maam, how high and how often"

This this moves into legit evil category, I do not say that lightly.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 06, 2019 01:00 PM (ymnmz)

THIS
Posted by: JoeF. at June 06, 2019 01:02 PM (NFEMn)

=========

I'd bet money Hillary had little to do with this.

Obama had turned most of the executive branch into an anti-Republican organization. They were doing illegal things everywhere in order to advance progressivism.

If a Republican won the presidency, all of that would come out.

Obama needed a Democratic win to preserve his legacy and, potentially, his freedom.

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224 named Jeannie Li

-
I was at the doctor's yesterday and they had the partners listed. One was Dr. Yumi Lee. I didn't see her so I don't know.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 06, 2019 01:03 PM (+y/Ru)

225 159 148 Of course, this invites all sorts of speculation:
1. Would JFK get re-elected in 1964?
2. Would there be a Goldwater vs. Rockefeller civil war within the GOP in 1964, which weakened it then? And how much of that feud was incited by the blame throwing about the assassination?
3. Would LBJ run in 1968 then, and win, or not?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 06, 2019 12:53 PM (ujg0T)

=============
1. No

Given how fawning the media was of JFK, and how much more trusting the American public was, I find that hard to believe, especially if the GOP had serious infighting. (Note: the resentment we have toward the GOPee is nothing new, the Goldwater Republicans and Taft Republicans had it too).

2. No. Rockefeller would have won the nomination and we would have gotten Rockefeller as president.
3. Yes. Rockefeller would have been terrible as president.

As a George H.W. Bush before George H.W. Bush? I could see that. On the other hand, HW DID have shrewd foreign policy at least.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 06, 2019 01:04 PM (ujg0T)

226 The jury is still out. But I eventually will get her.

Posted by: Satan, CEO of Hell Inc

You daughter was always going to return home and live in your basement - admit it.

Posted by: Boswell at June 06, 2019 01:04 PM (32YRo)

227 ...At some point, this will become obvious, and the people pushing this lie are going to be exposed to perjury and jail time.

But they won't be charged and won't go to jail -- establishing beyond doubt that we live in a country in which government officials put citizens in jails for crimes that they themselves may blatantly commit and know they have full immunity for any prosecution for those crimes.

So long as those officials are acting in accordance with the Deep State's preferred liberal/Democrat politics, of course.

Posted by Ace of Spades at 12:15 PM Comments

So, let Warren and Donky Chompers declare Climate Change their World War 2.

This right here should be ours. And fought to the death.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 06, 2019 01:04 PM (zBaqJ)

228 It was Comey.

Posted by: James Brennan, when the shit hits the fan at June 06, 2019 01:04 PM (pYQR/)

229 228 It was Comey.
Posted by: James Brennan, when the shit hits the fan at June 06, 2019 01:04 PM (pYQR/)

===========

"It was Clapper."
-Comey

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230 191 183
Has he started injecting heroin into his eyeballs?
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While listening to some Ludwig Van?
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231 As long as people have their smart phones, interweb pron and gubbermint free shit, not only does it not register, they do not care.

Posted by: shibumi at June 06, 2019 01:01 PM (sktRI)

They're well paid slaves. So be it. If they don't get in the way, there's no reason to hurt the sheep. It's the ones serving the evil that pretend to be on our side that have to be dealt with.

Posted by: trev006 at June 06, 2019 01:05 PM (9jPzf)

232
And lose their pensions.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic

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I'd like that, too. The idea would be that they couldn't go anywhere for the rest of their lives without being hounded and stinkeyed. But it would also be nice if they were forced to (God forbid) live the humble life of those for whom they have such contempt.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2019 01:05 PM (M9ntN)

233 194

People are talking about what they'd settle for, and I'd be willing
to skip the arrests if the bad guys are forced to make public
confessions and apologies.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2019 12:56 PM (M9ntN)

And lose their pensions.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 06, 2019 12:59 PM (TAmPV)

They would have to be pretty abject and thorough for me to accept that. None of this "I'm sorry if this was construed badly..."
It needs to be "In order to save the republic, I abjectly admit my guilt in all these crimes. I deserve prison and recognize that the leniency being shown me is only a result me my abject apology and unfettered admission of guilt in all matters I have just listed. I have given all my possessions to the poor and will begin my life anew living under the 56th street bridge."

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 06, 2019 01:05 PM (ymnmz)

234 Decimate the Praetorians who favored the ascension of Clinton as Emperor.

That'll be a good lesson for the Deep State.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at June 06, 2019 01:05 PM (e1mEI)

235 225 As a George H.W. Bush before George H.W. Bush? I could see that. On the other hand, HW DID have shrewd foreign policy at least.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 06, 2019 01:04 PM (ujg0T)

Gulf War 1 was shrewd foreign policy? I'm not so sure about that, my friend.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 06, 2019 01:05 PM (zBaqJ)

236 230
Ah, he's hooked on the good old ultra violence and the in out, in out now, huh?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 06, 2019 12:59 PM (9cans)

Just don't come between him and his milk.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at June 06, 2019 01:05 PM (bcbK

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That milk's got a punch to it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 06, 2019 01:05 PM (9cans)

237 Just don't come between him and his milk.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at June 06, 2019 01:05 PM (bcbK

Ewwwww.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2019 01:05 PM (NWiLs)

238 If Kennedy doesn't get assassinated, The Beatles don't get HUGE and what we know of as "the 60's" doesn't happen....
Posted by: JoeF. at June 06, 2019 12:55 PM (NFEMn)

Why not? I could still see a British invasion happening, just because the music scene in 1963 was pretty staid.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 06, 2019 12:58 PM (ujg0T)

The Beatles already existed in November 1963--their records WERE being played on American radio--sporadically since February of '63--but the Sullivan show made them huge.
Maybe if the country wasn't in "mourning", they don't take to them as they did....

Posted by: JoeF. at June 06, 2019 01:06 PM (NFEMn)

239 158 Uh oh. Bad news for the Ph.Ds!

Robot baristas latest automation push...
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Good to see the automation starts with easy tasks without much of a decision tree. I predict early success on this project.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 06, 2019 01:06 PM (pw+jk)

240 Bowler hats.

Posted by: mrp at June 06, 2019 01:06 PM (Pqytn)

241 I had nothing to do with this.

Posted by: Barack Husein Obama, Emperor for Life at June 06, 2019 01:06 PM (sktRI)

242 228
It was Comey.

Posted by: James Brennan, when the shit hits the fan at June 06, 2019 01:04 PM (pYQR/)
Don't be silly, it was low paid interns in Cincinnati, I heard it on the news at 6:00, and on one is more angry about it than I am.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at June 06, 2019 01:06 PM (37IEG)

243 237 Just don't come between him and his milk.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at June 06, 2019 01:05 PM (bcbK

Ewwwww.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2019 01:05 PM (NWiLs)

You had to make it gross, didn't you?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at June 06, 2019 01:06 PM (bcbK8)

244 238 If Kennedy doesn't get assassinated, The Beatles don't get HUGE and what we know of as "the 60's" doesn't happen....
Posted by: JoeF. at June 06, 2019 12:55 PM (NFEMn)

Why not? I could still see a British invasion happening, just because the music scene in 1963 was pretty staid.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 06, 2019 12:58 PM (ujg0T)

The Beatles already existed in November 1963--their records WERE being played on American radio--sporadically since February of '63--but the Sullivan show made them huge.
Maybe if the country wasn't in "mourning", they don't take to them as they did....
Posted by: JoeF. at June 06, 2019 01:06 PM (NFEMn)

They still infiltrated the schools. All that other stuff is ancillary

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 06, 2019 01:06 PM (zBaqJ)

245 Mueller is a brand of fire hydrant. Dogs piss on them.

https://tinyurl.com/y658e93s

Posted by: wth at June 06, 2019 01:07 PM (v0R5T)

246 FTA: "Mueller made two vital contributions. The first was an in-depth investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election. He concluded it was systematic and favored Donald Trump."

Bullshit. There was no investigation of the "hack" of DNC emails - the word of a private firm hired by the Democrat Party was accepted uncritically by the FBI. And the phishing to get Podesta's password out of him hardly constitutes world-class espionage! The other supposed "interference" was the Russians spending about $200K on Facebook ads that were targeted to create division, not boost Trump. That amount is dwarfed by the money spent by Soros, only one of many billionaires for Hillary.

Not only are the very first words of this article a complete lie, but the reputation of Robert Mueller was already in the crapper from years of bad-cop work to anyone not a complete Lo-Fo.

And no mention of the twin 800-pound gorillas in the room... the corruption of the mainstream media that made it all possible, and the fact that it succeeded in changing the 2018 election to give Democrats control of the House.

All in all pretty much a nothing-burger for any reader of AOS or CTH.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at June 06, 2019 01:07 PM (CxApx)

247 241 I had nothing to do with this.
Posted by: Barack Husein Obama, Emperor for Life at June 06, 2019 01:06 PM (sktRI)

I would recommend the Pear of Anguish for Barky but he might like it too much.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 06, 2019 01:07 PM (RD7QR)

248 I'll repeat my contention the conspirators never thought that Trump would be elected. When, the their surprise he was elected and they pushed harder to ensure he would never be around to uncover the plot. Now that their effort has failed, they are in full cover up mode.

This makes one wonder if this was ever done before, and how it effected the electoral outcome and the legitimacy of an so-called "elected" president?

Did the Obama Administration simply re-use tools and a mechanism they had used before? You'll have to convince me otherwise with respect to at a minimum 2012.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 06, 2019 01:07 PM (VpIIl)

249 245
Mueller is a brand of fire hydrant. Dogs piss on them.

https://tinyurl.com/y658e93s

Posted by: wth at June 06, 2019 01:07 PM (v0R5T)
Any idea where the line forms?

I'm kinda into that pissing on things thing.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at June 06, 2019 01:07 PM (37IEG)

250 Given how fawning the media was of JFK, and how much more trusting the American public was, I find that hard to believe, especially if the GOP had serious infighting. (Note: the resentment we have toward the GOPee is nothing new, the Goldwater Republicans and Taft Republicans had it too).

2. No. Rockefeller would have won the nomination and we would have gotten Rockefeller as president.
3. Yes. Rockefeller would have been terrible as president.

As a George H.W. Bush before George H.W. Bush? I could see that. On the other hand, HW DID have shrewd foreign policy at least.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 06, 2019 01:04 PM (ujg0T)

Why couldn't we have gotten Nixon again in '64--as a compromise between the Rockefeller and Goldwater wings?

Posted by: JoeF. at June 06, 2019 01:08 PM (NFEMn)

251
I'd bet money Hillary had little to do with this.

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Isn't the dossier the crucial link between her campaign and Obama?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2019 01:08 PM (M9ntN)

252 235 225 As a George H.W. Bush before George H.W. Bush? I could see that. On the other hand, HW DID have shrewd foreign policy at least.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 06, 2019 01:04 PM (ujg0T)

Gulf War 1 was shrewd foreign policy? I'm not so sure about that, my friend.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 06, 2019 01:05 PM (zBaqJ)

Wait, what? Invade Iraq and have Bush the Elder do as Bush the Younger did? You think the American public wasn't happy about the Iraq occupation, you must imagine how it would have gone down in 1990, when Vietnam memories were still relatively fresh.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 06, 2019 01:08 PM (ujg0T)

253 243 237 Just don't come between him and his milk.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at June 06, 2019 01:05 PM (bcbK

Ewwwww.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2019 01:05 PM (NWiLs)

You had to make it gross, didn't you?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at June 06, 2019 01:06 PM (bcbK

Me? Gross? Never.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2019 01:08 PM (NWiLs)

254 233 They would have to be pretty abject and thorough for me to accept that. None of this "I'm sorry if this was construed badly..."
It needs to be "In order to save the republic, I abjectly admit my guilt in all these crimes. I deserve prison and recognize that the leniency being shown me is only a result me my abject apology and unfettered admission of guilt in all matters I have just listed. I have given all my possessions to the poor and will begin my life anew living under the 56th street bridge."

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 06, 2019 01:05 PM (ymnmz)

Exactly.

Homeless AND cut-off from ANY access to goods or services, or life in PMITA prison without parole.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 06, 2019 01:08 PM (sm6Pk)

255 Mueller is an asshole

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2019 01:08 PM (JydBk)

256 244 238 If Kennedy doesn't get assassinated, The Beatles don't get HUGE and what we know of as "the 60's" doesn't happen....
Posted by: JoeF. at June 06, 2019 12:55 PM (NFEMn)

Why not? I could still see a British invasion happening, just because the music scene in 1963 was pretty staid.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 06, 2019 12:58 PM (ujg0T)

The Beatles already existed in November 1963--their records WERE being played on American radio--sporadically since February of '63--but the Sullivan show made them huge.
Maybe if the country wasn't in "mourning", they don't take to them as they did....
Posted by: JoeF. at June 06, 2019 01:06 PM (NFEMn)

They still infiltrated the schools. All that other stuff is ancillary
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 06, 2019 01:06 PM (zBaqJ)

Not to mention drugs and birth control.

The 60's were going to be a shit show no matter what, all those entitled children. But maybe if an iron hand had been held on them, they might have avoided wrecking the country.

Or maybe not.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at June 06, 2019 01:08 PM (bcbK8)

257 Has JackStraw been eaten by some sort of transdimensional monster?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 06, 2019 12:46 PM (9cans)
~~~~~

Told us the other day that he'd be tooling around the BQE and the Belt Pkwy. this week on business.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 06, 2019 01:08 PM (NtglE)

258
I'd bet money Hillary had little to do with this.

I'd bet money she had everything to do with it.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 06, 2019 01:09 PM (TAmPV)

259 205 This is me waving goodbye to Joe Biden.

*waves*

What did Biden know about this and when did he know it?

Think the media will ask? No, me either.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 06, 2019 01:01 PM (VpIIl)

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Betcha Trump will.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 06, 2019 01:09 PM (gC2IV)

260 248 I'll repeat my contention the conspirators never thought that Trump would be elected. When, the their surprise he was elected and they pushed harder to ensure he would never be around to uncover the plot. Now that their effort has failed, they are in full cover up mode.

This makes one wonder if this was ever done before, and how it effected the electoral outcome and the legitimacy of an so-called "elected" president?

Did the Obama Administration simply re-use tools and a mechanism they had used before? You'll have to convince me otherwise with respect to at a minimum 2012.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 06, 2019 01:07 PM (VpIIl)

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I'm convinced at this point that Obama started spying in 2009.

I had dismissed the idea for years that Obama blackmailed Roberts for the ACA ruling, but I believe it now.

I think that when Romney wiped the floor with Obama in the first debate, Obama metaphorically showed Romney a manila envelope with pictures and Romney backed off.

I think that when we get the "real" history of the Obama administration in about 50 years, the world will see Obama as the single most corrupt president of the Republic. He'll be the Hoover of the Democratic Party.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 06, 2019 01:10 PM (9cans)

261
FTA: "Mueller made two vital contributions. The first was an in-depth investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election. He concluded it was systematic and favored Donald Trump."

Bullshit.

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Agree 100%. When is that pillar going to be torn down? Even Barr has supported it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2019 01:10 PM (M9ntN)

262 Going to 'Star Raiders' tonight. Should be terrible, but hopefully also hilarious.

Octaman disappointed, sadly.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at June 06, 2019 01:10 PM (bcbK8)

263 257 Has JackStraw been eaten by some sort of transdimensional monster?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 06, 2019 12:46 PM (9cans)
~~~~~

Told us the other day that he'd be tooling around the BQE and the Belt Pkwy. this week on business.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 06, 2019 01:08 PM (NtglE)

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Doesn't he realize his real job is commenting here for no pay and telling me things I could find out for myself?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 06, 2019 01:10 PM (9cans)

264
I think that when Romney wiped the floor with Obama in the first debate, Obama metaphorically showed Romney a manila envelope with pictures and Romney backed off.

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Considering Romney, I don't think any such thing was necessary.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2019 01:11 PM (M9ntN)

265 257 Has JackStraw been eaten by some sort of transdimensional monster?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 06, 2019 12:46 PM (9cans)
~~~~~

Told us the other day that he'd be tooling around the BQE and the Belt Pkwy. this week on business.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 06, 2019 01:08 PM (NtglE)

The Bronx Queens Expressway?

That reminds me...I need to watch Quick Change again.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at June 06, 2019 01:11 PM (bcbK8)

266 No, no, no, the Sun God had nothing to do with any of this. He is blameless and worthy only of praise, PBUH.

Posted by: Valerie Jarrett, when the levee breaks at June 06, 2019 01:11 PM (pYQR/)

267 What did Biden know about this and when did he know it?
..........

Vice President Schultz knew nuttink never.

Posted by: wth at June 06, 2019 01:11 PM (v0R5T)

268 260 I think that when we get the "real" history of the Obama administration in about 50 years, the world will see Obama as the single most corrupt president of the Republic. He'll be the Hoover of the Democratic Party.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 06, 2019 01:10 PM (9cans)

Unfortunately, by then, he may be feted as the Left-winger to FINALLY bring "By Any Means Necessary" to the White House.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 06, 2019 01:12 PM (sm6Pk)

269 267 What did Biden know about this and when did he know it?
..........

Vice President Schultz knew nuttink never.
Posted by: wth at June 06, 2019 01:11 PM (v0R5T)

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"And that's why I should be president."
-Biden

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 06, 2019 01:12 PM (9cans)

270 >> in about 50 years, the world will see Obama as the single most corrupt president of the Republic. He'll be the Hoover of the Democratic Party. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 06, 2019 01:10 PM (9cans)

The Warren Harding of the Democratic Party. An intellectual mediocrity of a marionette worked by much smarter, more sinister forces.

Posted by: Zod at June 06, 2019 01:12 PM (Bdeb0)

271 I'm convinced at this point that Obama started spying in 2009.

I had dismissed the idea for years that Obama blackmailed Roberts for the ACA ruling, but I believe it now.

I think that when Romney wiped the floor with Obama in the first debate, Obama metaphorically showed Romney a manila envelope with pictures and Romney backed off.

I think that when we get the "real" history of the Obama administration in about 50 years, the world will see Obama as the single most corrupt president of the Republic. He'll be the Hoover of the Democratic Party.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 06, 2019 01:10 PM (9cans)

Remember Primary Colors?

The Washington Press Corps thought that book was awesome. One, because they knew it was from one of theirs. Two, because they knew it was about Bill Clinton. And three, because they knew that it was really true.

Posted by: blaster at June 06, 2019 01:12 PM (ZfRYq)

272 I believe the jailings need to happen, otherwise, there just might be some extra-judicial justice meted out.

Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 06, 2019 01:12 PM (qC1Sy)

273 Expect more corporate bullying.

SCOOP: Rahm Emanuel is heading to Wall Street, will join Centerview to counsel big companies
@wsj

Posted by: Ha at June 06, 2019 01:13 PM (MAstk)

274 Why couldn't we have gotten Nixon again in '64--as a compromise between the Rockefeller and Goldwater wings?
Posted by: JoeF. at June 06, 2019 01:08 PM (NFEMn)

Nixon was seen by the Goldwater Crowd as another Mee-tooer, and given his record from wage and price controls to affirmative action to eco hysteria, they were right, domestically anyway.

However, in 1964, Tricky Dick earnestly stumped for Goldwater and won a lot of goodwill from that wing of the GOP--which he used to win nomination in 1968.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 06, 2019 01:13 PM (ujg0T)

275 270 The Warren Harding of the Democratic Party. An intellectual mediocrity of a marionette worked by much smarter, more sinister forces.
Posted by: Zod at June 06, 2019 01:12 PM (Bdeb0)

Only Michelle didn't have the ambition to poison Barky.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 06, 2019 01:13 PM (sm6Pk)

276 "every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. sooner or later the debt is paid" --comrade Legasov

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 06, 2019 01:13 PM (kod69)

277

Your theory that the investigation started earlier is probably true, given
that Mifsud was spying on Papadopoulos. However, that means it wasn't based on
the dossier to start. The dossier's first memo was not written until June 20,
2016. Mifsud met Papadopoulos on March 14, 2016. It was on April 26, 2016, that
Mifsud told Papadopoulos that the Russians had her emails and "dirt"
on her. It was May 10, 2016, that Papadopoulos told Downer about the Mifsud
claim (according to Downer; Papadopoulos says he didn't mention it).

Posted by: David at June 06, 2019 01:13 PM (CVbZ/)

278 266
No, no, no, the Sun God had nothing to do with any of this. He is blameless and worthy only of praise, PBUH.

Posted by: Valerie Jarrett, when the levee breaks at June 06, 2019 01:11 PM (pYQR/)

Speaking of which, now might be a good time for you to get a passport from a country Iran has official diplomatic relations with and allows travel from.
Bitch.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 06, 2019 01:13 PM (37IEG)

279 268 260 I think that when we get the "real" history of the Obama administration in about 50 years, the world will see Obama as the single most corrupt president of the Republic. He'll be the Hoover of the Democratic Party.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 06, 2019 01:10 PM (9cans)

Unfortunately, by then, he may be feted as the Left-winger to FINALLY bring "By Any Means Necessary" to the White House.
Posted by: Hikaru at June 06, 2019 01:12 PM (sm6Pk)

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He'll either be a Woodrow Wilson (the other party now hates him, the general public sorta likes him because of the League of Nations, and his party generally loves him) or a Hoover (delusional members of his party love him, everyone else is between apathy or hatred).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 06, 2019 01:14 PM (9cans)

280 >>264 I think that when Romney wiped the floor with Obama in the first debate, Obama metaphorically showed Romney a manila envelope with pictures and Romney backed off.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2019 01:11 PM (M9ntN)

If so, color me impressed. I always thought of Coif Diabolus as an asexual bobblehead.

Posted by: Zod at June 06, 2019 01:14 PM (Bdeb0)

281 Mueller's Sinking Reputation

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How does it get any lower than the 9th Circle of Hell? Hang that traitorous fuck first ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Quarter-Wit aspiring to be Half-Wit at June 06, 2019 01:14 PM (WqPYg)

282 No, no, no, the Sun God had nothing to do with any of this. He is blameless and worthy only of praise, PBUH.
Posted by: Valerie Jarrett

I honestly think this is why it's being slow-walked. Can you imagine the cognitive dissonance for the clueless ones of the left when he's revealed to be what he is? They literally worship him. It's going to figuratively blow many minds. It has to be slow-walked with bits and pieces at a time.

Posted by: Biergood at June 06, 2019 01:14 PM (uGKH7)

283
in about 50 years, the world will see Obama as the single most corrupt president of the Republic.

That depends on who wins in 2020.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 06, 2019 01:14 PM (TAmPV)

284 This makes one wonder if this was ever done before,
and how it effected the electoral outcome and the legitimacy of an
so-called "elected" president?

Did the Obama Administration simply re-use tools and a mechanism
they had used before? You'll have to convince me otherwise with respect
to at a minimum 2012.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 06, 2019 01:07 PM (VpIIl)

=========================
Obama's White House Counsel's office "urged" Susan Rice to memorialize the January 5, 2017 meeting (with Comey, Rice, Biden, Yates, and Barry in attendance) in her last-minute email to herself. "By the book!" said the then-president, according to Rice. She should have asked "Which book, the one by Alinsky or "The Art of War", or any other book?"

Posted by: mrp at June 06, 2019 01:15 PM (Pqytn)

285 Bbbut stand up guy. And Marine. And Stuff!!

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 06, 2019 01:15 PM (FiUMj)

286 "when it was clear Mueller wasn't getting anywhere Rosenstein started
shifting over to the Trump camp to make sure he isn't going to jail..."

yeah, but that is true of many of them ... they will save their hides till DeepState resumes power ... till then they drag their feet and are "sleepers".

Rosie had the legal details on No Obstruction in detail from Barr, but refused to act ... it took Barr gaining the position ... then Mueller was quickly shut down. Barr had left DC ... Rosie is part of team Comey/Mueller and the rest, from things I hear.

Rosie drug his feet and gave Mueller license "anywhere it may lead" for two years. Surviving that is not really "switching sides" ... it is duck and cover, live to betray another day.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 06, 2019 01:15 PM (Cus5s)

287 A few days ago I said that as time goes on and the background of the
Mueller report comes out the media is going to act like they've never
heard of it and the Democrats are going to sprint from it like a vampire
runs from garlic.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits,
Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at June 06, 2019 12:33 PM (hLRSq)

Well I certainly like the image of chasing them down, dragging them into the sun and pounding wooden stakes into their hearts.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 06, 2019 12:39 PM (OX6sG)

just because it' tenderizes them prior to cooking...

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 06, 2019 01:15 PM (8D42x)

288 Extra judicial proceeding can only occur if these people do their own lawn mowing or go to practice baseball games.

They don't.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 06, 2019 01:15 PM (37IEG)

289 They still infiltrated the schools. All that other stuff is ancillary

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

"whoa! if only leftist dogma had done that - guess we'll never know since that shit totally didn't happen" - former Hot Air blogger.

Posted by: Boswell at June 06, 2019 01:15 PM (32YRo)

290 " He'll be the Hoover of the Democratic Party.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 06, 2019 01:10 PM (9cans)"

No he'll be Nixon with the exception he had direct knowledge and control over the operation. He ran a treasonous, unconstitutional an unlawful operation that subverted the U.S. government and electoral process and used its auspices as political tools. That's demonstrably behavior which endangered the entire republic by opening us up to subversion and attack by our sovereign enemies.

More than any other president in history, Obama place our republic in grave danger, which I now believe he was either indifferent to or it was his intent.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 06, 2019 01:15 PM (VpIIl)

291 in about 50 years, the world will see Obama as the single most corrupt president of the Republic.

___

Nah.

Posted by: Historians Who Write History and are all Leftist Obama Sycophants at June 06, 2019 01:16 PM (FiUMj)

292 290
More than any other president in history, Obama place our republic in grave danger, which I now believe he was either indifferent to or it was his intent.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 06, 2019 01:15 PM (VpIIl)

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We may be splitting hairs, but Wilson's era of progressivism did all of that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 06, 2019 01:16 PM (9cans)

293
They would have to be pretty abject and thorough for me to accept that. None of this "I'm sorry if this was construed badly..."

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Oh yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Unambiguous, unqualified, thorough pronouncements of guilt. Nothing that MSM could construe otherwise. Statements that would get them kicked out of civil society. Like that guy who cheated on the $64,000 question. Had to live in obscurity for the rest of his life.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2019 01:16 PM (M9ntN)

294 oh man, Star Raiders looks awful.

wonder if Ad Astra will be good.personally I am awaiting the Kamata no Astra anime

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 06, 2019 01:16 PM (kod69)

295 The Bronx Queens Expressway?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at June 06, 2019 01:11 PM (bcbK

Brooklyn-Queens Expressway.

Posted by: RickZ at June 06, 2019 01:16 PM (Y8PSl)

296 Nixon was seen by the Goldwater Crowd as another Mee-tooer, and given his record from wage and price controls to affirmative action to eco hysteria, they were right, domestically anyway.

Posted by: Curmudgeon

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Goldwater ended up going "native" also, especially later in his career. He basically endorsed Bill Clinton for President, pushed to have Sandra Day O'Connor appointed (despite reservations from the base) was huge on getting gays in the military, etc.

Posted by: Raven at June 06, 2019 01:16 PM (6RfEx)

297 Not to mention drugs and birth control.

The 60's were going to be a shit show no matter what, all those entitled children. But maybe if an iron hand had been held on them, they might have avoided wrecking the country.

Or maybe not.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at June 06, 2019 01:08 PM (bcbK

Honestly? How much of that was due to the botched handling of Vietnam? I suspect had there been no prolonged conflict (and thus no draft), the 1960s would have been much more tepid, and the psychedelic crowd would just have been an entertaining sideshow.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 06, 2019 01:16 PM (ujg0T)

298 SCOOP: Rahm Emanuel is heading to Wall Street, will join Centerview to counsel big companies
@wsj

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Chiquita Khrushchev is all pissed off about this betrayal of commie values.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 06, 2019 01:17 PM (+y/Ru)

299 Of course our coadhoukd always tell the truth
How could that possibly hurt our national security by fully disclosing their methods and informants

Posted by: Kurt at June 06, 2019 01:17 PM (XVon9)

300 Agree 100%. When is that pillar going to be torn down? Even Barr has supported it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2019 01:10 PM (M9ntN)
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Probably never. The Russians did try to interfere through some agitation and social media advertisements. Nothing really to see there, they *always* try to do something because they're either an enemy or a rival depending on time period. Did their regular interference systematically favor Trump? Who the hell knows, but I doubt it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2019 01:17 PM (I2dne)

301 LBJ accelerated the war, where, I think Kennedy thought Viet Nam was a non-starter and suggested withdrawal. Who knows? But kids were being drafted and that was a big shake-up where people were looking at alternate life choices. Drugs, sex,rock and roll loomed large and seemed like an attractive alternative.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 06, 2019 01:17 PM (EjlXc)

302 294 oh man, Star Raiders looks awful.

wonder if Ad Astra will be good.personally I am awaiting the Kamata no Astra anime
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 06, 2019 01:16 PM (kod69)

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Ad Astra looks well made at least.

I like the director. His stuff feels kind of old Hollywood, though a bit detached emotionally. The Lost City of Z was pretty good when it should have been great.

Still, NASA type scifi is something that I am drawn towards surprisingly strongly.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 06, 2019 01:17 PM (9cans)

303 If you watch the Mark Steyn interview with Pappadopoulos, he denies that he said what Mueller's team said that he said to downer and Downer himself has denied it as well. Apparently he did say something to downer about the emails but he did not say it in such a way that brought the Russians into it and he said Downer was pretty agitated about the way he phrased it. He said Downer was blatantly recording their conversation and obviously wanted him to say something in particular and he did not say it the way Downer wanted. Pappadopoulos claims he was getting suspicious about some of what was happening around him by that time.

Posted by: Clean Willie at June 06, 2019 01:18 PM (TwCsL)

304 Sock off

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 06, 2019 01:18 PM (dOOrJ)

305 Nood learn to code.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 06, 2019 01:18 PM (u9hp4)

306 >>Well I certainly like the image of chasing them down, dragging them into the sun and pounding wooden stakes into their hearts. Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 06, 2019 12:39 PM (OX6sG)

A blazing sun. Four wooden stakes. Leather tie-downs. A red-ant hill. A leering Apache in breechcloth.

Some assembly required.

Posted by: Zod at June 06, 2019 01:18 PM (Bdeb0)

307

Well, here's one simple theory: They started the investigation based
on the unverified, and often provably false, claims contained in a
"dossier" based on Kremlin sources paid for by Hillary Clinton and the
DNC.

Basically Sean Hannity's show opening verbatim for the last 3 years.

Posted by: mikeyG at June 06, 2019 01:18 PM (LL1Be)

308 277 David

Your timing is right for the Steele dossier but what is the timing for the original source material, the Shearer/Blumenthal dossier? I think that was being pushed in through Hillary's old State Department cronies much earlier.

Posted by: motionview at June 06, 2019 01:18 PM (pYQR/)

309 Ras has OrangeManBad at 50 today. It was last at 50 exactly a month ago today, having dipped down to as low as 44 in between.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 06, 2019 01:18 PM (FiUMj)

310

Satan found Hitlery a poor tool and discontinued her upgrades.

Posted by: I'm an Idiot, But Sincere at June 06, 2019 01:18 PM (UFLLM)

311
in about 50 years, the world will see Obama as the single most corrupt president of the Republic.

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Speaking of What I'll Settle For In Lieu Of Arrests (unambiguous declarations of guilt), I hope Obama lives long enough to see his name taken off a school or two.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 06, 2019 01:18 PM (M9ntN)

312 Honestly? How much of that was due to the botched handling of Vietnam? I suspect had there been no prolonged conflict (and thus no draft), the 1960s would have been much more tepid, and the psychedelic crowd would just have been an entertaining sideshow.
Posted by: Curmudgeon

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I would agree, Vietnam radicalized the youth. Much better culture had we never gotten involved in that stupid war.

We also lost the Gold Standard over it and crazy inflation.

As soon as Vietnam went Communist, the place imploded anyway. We didn't need to fire a single shot.

Posted by: Raven at June 06, 2019 01:19 PM (6RfEx)

313 speaking of anime, hi Kurt! *wiggles a tentacle*

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 06, 2019 01:19 PM (kod69)

314 Not a scintilla of corruption.

Posted by: Barack H. Obama at June 06, 2019 01:20 PM (xgl1x)

315 In other news, Clapper, Comey, Brennan, Rice, Powers, and McCabe have all just been diagnosed with rapid onset dementia and will be unavailable for questioning as they can't remember anything. Also, former president obama has relocated to the Cayman Islands.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 06, 2019 01:20 PM (gC2IV)

316
I agree with Ace that no one (at least of importance) will face meaningful consequences, though I hope to be proven wrong.

However, I do see some positive consequences that are possible here.

This might finally, after years of abuse, wake the American people up to the monstrosity our IC has become. A small number (myself included) have been warning about this for close to two decades. A somewhat larger number took notice after the Snowden leaks, but it still largely went unnoticed. A popular President being ratfucked by the FBI/DoJ/CIA/ODNI/State Department in concert may finally be the last straw. We could end up getting desperately needed reforms in the medium to long-term.

In the short term, I think this will be helpful in the coming election. For one thing, it'll just look really, really bad to voters.

But more importantly, the IC is a powerful weapon, and slavishly devoted to Leftist power structures. If this investigation drags out for years (as I hope it will), it should keep the treasonous bastards walking on eggshells, and drastically limit their freedom of movement with regard to assisting the Democrat candidate next year.

Just looking for those silver linings

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 06, 2019 01:20 PM (AzW6q)

317 Goldwater ended up going "native" also, especially later in his career. He basically endorsed Bill Clinton for President, pushed to have Sandra Day O'Connor appointed (despite reservations from the base) was huge on getting gays in the military, etc.
Posted by: Raven at June 06, 2019 01:16 PM (6RfEx)

I get that Goldwater went senile.

However, I think 1992 was Bush's to lose. Pat Buchanan may have been an uncouth caveman, but his campaign was a warning to the GOPee that their globalist dreams were already turning into nightmares for a significant segment of the USA population--and only recently, over two decades later, have they began to listen to us about that.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 06, 2019 01:21 PM (ujg0T)

318 Everybody lies.

Posted by: gregory house, m.d. at June 06, 2019 01:22 PM (Dh1wo)

319 How does it get any lower than the 9th Circle of Hell? Hang that traitorous fuck first ...

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I can think of a few others that should go first. He was passed the ball by others who deserve the first trap door. Nonetheless, if all who should hang for this got what should be coming to them, we'd run out of rope.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at June 06, 2019 01:22 PM (JoUsr)

320 122
Jeannie Rhee seems nice

Do you think she is actually supposed to be named Jeannie Li, but at
the hospital her parents kept telling the hospital administrators "It's
Jeannie Rhee, No, No, Jeannie Rhee!" and the staff just did the best
they could on the birth certificate?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 06, 2019
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*. . .

I made the mistake of image-searching for "Jeannie Rhee." Dear Lord, preserve us.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 06, 2019 01:22 PM (ClOmq)

321 You know what I would like to see? I would like to see President Trump come back from Normandy inspired by the heroes that he met there, and with a blood-lust to destroy the homegrown Nazis that infest the DOJ and the Intel community!

T-Day now! War!!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at June 06, 2019 01:23 PM (CxApx)

322 301 LBJ accelerated the war, where, I think Kennedy thought Viet Nam was a non-starter and suggested withdrawal. Who knows? But kids were being drafted and that was a big shake-up where people were looking at alternate life choices. Drugs, sex,rock and roll loomed large and seemed like an attractive alternative.
Posted by: washrivergal at June 06, 2019 01:17 PM (EjlXc)

I caution everybody not to fall for the Kennedy Mystique, namely, the notion that he would have somehow managed Vietnam better. All his "Whiz Kids" and advisors dutifully stayed on into LBJ's regime.

Even a scumbag like Noam Chumpsky realizes that Kennedy would likely have followed the path LBJ went down.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 06, 2019 01:23 PM (ujg0T)

323 Gulf War 1 was shrewd foreign policy? I'm not so sure about that, my friend.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 06, 2019 01:05 PM (zBaqJ)

Cobbling together a coalition of countries was; everything after that was a major league fuck job, particularly giving Powell responsibility.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 06, 2019 01:23 PM (y7DUB)

324 Ubergruppenfuehrer Mueller turns out to be a dirty little thug.

Who saw that coming.

Posted by: mikeyG at June 06, 2019 01:24 PM (LL1Be)

325 Even a scumbag like Noam Chumpsky realizes that Kennedy would likely have followed the path LBJ went down.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 06, 2019 01:23 PM (ujg0T)

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Kennedy, for all his faults, was an anti-Communist.

So, of course Chomsky is not a natural admirer of his. I guess it's one thing I have in common with Noam, though for drastically different reasons.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 06, 2019 01:25 PM (AzW6q)

326 I agree with Ace that no one (at least of importance) will face meaningful consequences, though I hope to be proven wrong.

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I'm very pessimistic that just punishment will be meted out for these traitorous bastards. Re-assignment and a good talkin'-to are not going to sit well with a lot of people, however. Tipping point: engaged.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at June 06, 2019 01:26 PM (JoUsr)

327 @josheidelson

Breaking: Over 300 Vox Media employees are mounting a one-day walkout today to pressure the company to finish bargaining a contract with them, a union spokesperson tells me. They are not writing or editing stories.

Latest: Vox CEO @Bankoff tells employees he's "disappointed" by @vox_union walkout and, "While paying people a lot more than market wages sounds great on the surface, it's not realistic or smart." Says he wants "fair & highly competitive agreement quickly"

*snort*

Posted by: Tami at June 06, 2019 01:26 PM (cF8AT)

328 *snort*
Posted by: Tami at June 06, 2019 01:26 PM (cF8AT)

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+1.

The economic illiterates who work for Vox pumping out their Marxist bilge don't understand that Unionization is a net drain on any business. It can only be workable when a given industry is flying high on success, or at least consistently turning sizable margins.

When you're looking around at your industry and seeing repeated bloodlettings where workers like you are being let go and trying to learn to code so they can afford pants (unlike Jonah Goldberg), it's the last move you should think of making.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 06, 2019 01:31 PM (AzW6q)

329 If at the end of AG Barr's final actions none of the perpetrators of these crimes are held accountable our nation is lost.

We will have no choice but to gather one or two million veterans and have a meeting in DC.

Let the chips fall where they may.

Posted by: Parker Longbaugh at June 06, 2019 01:33 PM (8sZIF)

330 The "Ruling Class" rules. That's why they are called the "Ruling Class".
See French Revolution for solution.

Posted by: Paladin at June 06, 2019 01:33 PM (GsJMP)

331 But, in fact, they began the investigation -- the spying, the framing, the inviting Russians to a dinnerwhich Michael Flynn was attending to-claim "Michael-Flynn was seen dining with Russians" -- before the "confirmation." They began the investigation to get confirmation.

This began in 2013, it goes deep and far and they want to bury it.

Maxine Waters Confirms “Big Brother” Database 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIA1lQBqH1s&app=desktop

Posted by: Braenyard at June 06, 2019 01:35 PM (wCz5a)

332 Covergation.

Posted by: klaftern at June 06, 2019 01:43 PM (RuIsu)

333 We have passed even beyond not being governed by law.

We live in a country in which about half the citizens no longer wish to be governed by law.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at June 06, 2019 01:59 PM (koNhm)

334 So how much of the sewage behind this treason is tribe???

Posted by: Mark Matis at June 06, 2019 02:37 PM (nZJej)

335 This is cute and all, but unless there are very real and very serious consequences for this - and we all know that there won't be - it doesn't mean shit.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at June 06, 2019 02:47 PM (HOXd0)

336 Patterico says none of this matters, that the only thing matters is orange man bad, and that if you can't see this, you're not a conservative.

He's ex-GOP as of May 3 2016, you know.

Posted by: School Marm at June 07, 2019 08:45 AM (YVAaf)

337 Patterico says none of this matters, that the only thing matters is orange man bad, and that if you can't see this, you're not a conservative.

He's ex-GOP as of May 3 2016, you know.
Posted by: School Marm at June 07, 2019 08:45 AM (YVAaf)

This is what I don't understand about NeverTrumpers. I, too, left the GOP around the same time, after Trump won that primary (Indiana?) and Cruz dropped out. I was angry at how Trump had smeared Cruz and his family and that Cruz, who had conservative bona fides, was rejected for this poser, who was basically a Democrat.

So I didn't vote for Trump because hell no I'm not voting for a leftist Democrat. (Although I was thrilled to see him humiliate Hillary.)

I lost touch with politics for over a year. But then I started hearing how he was actually governing conservatively, pushing the things that were important to us. He actually kept his promises about SC justices (which I had doubted) and actually moved the Israeli embassy to Jerusalem! Imagine that, a politician keeping his word.

Then seeing him stand by Kavanaugh - that sealed it for me. This guy was the real deal.

So as far as I am concerned, NeverTrumpers don't actually think conservative goals are important. They are petty people with petty concerns.

At least leftists don't try to pretend to be conservative.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at June 07, 2019 02:36 PM (9hauA)

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