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AG Barr is an Absolute BALLER
Below, extended quotes from his interview with Jan Crawford.
And I do mean extended; Jan Crawford asks questions intended to get to interesting answers, and Barr provides interesting answers. There's not a lot of wasted time in the interview. I recommend listening to the whole thing in its entirety, in podcast form, here. Or just reading the transcript. The interview is an hour long but reading it will take you maybe 20 minutes. To make this skimmable, I've added short captions before each section so you can decide if you're interested in that bit, and added bold and italics (not in the original) throughout to grab the eye. But again, it's worth reading or hearing in full. Here are a quartet of amuses bouches, to whet your appetite. Though he doesn't name them, he's clearly talking about Comey and Brennan, and maybe Clapper and McCabe, here:"Higher interest, the better good." Sounds like Comey's book "A Higher Loyalty," no? He talks about that "snitty" letter that Mueller wrote complaining that the media wasn't reporting the Narrative the way he wanted it. The "staff-driven" line is undoubtedly a shot at Andrew Weismann and the 17 Angry Democrats:
Sometimes people can convince themselves that what they're doing is in the higher interest, the better good. They don't realize that what they're doing is really antithetical to the democratic system that we have. They start viewing themselves as the guardians of the people that are more informed and insensitive than everybody else. They can-- in their own mind, they can have those kinds of motives. And sometimes they can look at evidence and facts through a biased prism that they themselves don't realize.
WILLIAM BARR: I don't, I don't know, but, as I said it in the hearing, I thought it was- the letter was a little snitty and staff-driven-- JAN CRAWFORD: Staff-driven?You heard him. Here he seems to be talking about Comey, McCabe, Brennan, and all the other professional leakers who are questioning his own capability of handling classified information without leaking it:
I'm amused by people who make a living disclosing classified information including the names of intelligence operative wringing their hands about whether I can handle classified information.See? Baller. And now to the media, which is taking the odd position, after publishing leaks for two and half years, that Barr must stop his investigation in order to safeguard American secrets:
Well the media reaction is strange. Normally the media would be interested in letting the sunshine in and finding out what the truth is. And usually the media doesn't care that much about protecting intelligence sources and methods. But I do and I will.Now, on to the main course. (Some of the above quotes will be re-quoted, in full context.)
On whether Mueller could have, and should have, reached a conclusion on obstruction instead of inviting Congress to decide it in an impeachment probe. Note, at the end, Barr suggests, subtly, that it is not Mueller's job to position himself as an Impeachment Manager for the Democrat-controlled House. Which is what he's done.
On Mueller's dereliction of duty to decide, and on Rod Rosenstein being "surprised" to learn that Mueller would punt on this question. A sharp-eyed friend points out that Rod Rosenstein was supposedly Mueller's boss and supervisor through this process, and yet was surprised by Mueller's decision not to decide. What the fuck was he doing for two years? Did Mueller not check in with him? Did Rosenstein never ask what the initial findings were?
JAN CRAWFORD: Mr. Attorney General, thank you very much for sitting down with us. So, obviously we saw the special counsel yesterday make that statement, he analyzed 11 instances where there were possible obstruction and then said that he really couldn't make a decision- conclusion on whether or not the president had in fact committed obstruction because of the existing OLC opinion in the legal counsel's office. Do you agree with that interpretation that that legal opinion prevented him from making a conclusion? WILLIAM BARR: I am not sure he said it prevented him. I think what he said was he took that into account plus a number of other prudential judgments about fairness and other things and decided that the best course was not for him to reach a decision. I personally felt he could've reached a decision but-- JAN CRAWFORD: Was there anything that would've stopped him in the regulations or in those...that opinion itself, he could've -- in your view he could've reached a conclusion? WILLIAM BARR: Right, he could've reached a conclusion. The opinion says you cannot indict a president while he is in office but he could've reached a decision as to whether it was criminal activity but he had his reasons for not doing it, which he explained and I am not going to, you know, argue about those reasons but when he didn't make a decision, the Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and I felt it was necessary for us as the heads of the Department to reach that decision. That is what the Department of Justice does, that is why we have the compulsory powers like a grand jury to force people to give us evidence so that we can determine whether a crime has committed and in order to legitimate the process we felt we had to reach a decision. JAN CRAWFORD: Well, I mean, he seemed to suggest yesterday that there was another venue for this and that was Congress. WILLIAM BARR: Well, I am not sure what he was suggesting but, you know, the Department of Justice doesn't use our powers of investigating crimes as an adjunct to Congress. Congress is a separate branch of government and they can, you know, they have processes, we have our processes. Ours are related to the criminal justice process we are not an extension of Congress's investigative powers.
The next few quotes have to do with the media/Democrat/Deep State attack on Barr for releasing a four-page summary in advance of the actual report. Many of us have suspected that Mueller's and Weismann's plan was to release the report in a form which could not be immediately released, and then fill the media void with selective leaks and their own "summaries" to craft the Narrative as Barr prepared the report. But Barr saw through that, and released his own summary of conclusions, and then worked like hell to get the report out quickly. The next few quotes support this theory -- because Barr asked Mueller to identify which parts of the report came from 6(e) grand jury material. Barr asked Mueller that so that he could quickly redact that stuff and then release the report in a day or two. But Mueller did not comply. They blew off this simple and reasonable request. Why? I speculate: Because if Barr had to search through every line of the report to check himself if an assertion or quote came from 6(e) grand jury material, that would slow him down in releasing the report -- giving Mueller/Weissmann all the time in the world to shape the Narrative, in absence of the report. It is incredible that Mueller ignored his actual boss in so simple a directive, and the question "Why?" must be answered.
JAN CRAWFORD: Now you have testified that when you met with Mueller at the Justice Department, you had that meeting, that you were surprised that he told you then that he was not going to reach a conclusion on obstruction. WILLIAM BARR: Yes, Rod and I were both surprised by that. JAN CRAWFORD: Did you ask him, look, we need you to make a conclusion on this? You should make a conclusion. WILLIAM BARR: I wouldn't say I really pressed him on it. I was interested in his thinking on it and he explained his position, said he was still thinking it through and- and- but I didn't really press him nor did Rod. JAN CRAWFORD: So, but you left that meeting thinking that he wasn't going to have a conclusion? WILLIAM BARR: That's right. JAN CRAWFORD: Do you feel because he didn't do that, did he fulfill his responsibility as special counsel? If you look at regulations, it seems to anticipate that you would get a confidential report explaining why he made a decision to either prosecute or decline to prosecute. He didn't do that, seems to me. WILLIAM BARR: Right but on the other hand he did provide us a report and what he viewed to be the relevant facts. And that allowed us as the, as the leaders of the department to make that decision.
The four-page summary that the leftwing is so upset about would not have been necessary, had Mueller delivered the report in a disclosable (or almost-disclosable) form. But Mueller refused.
JAN CRAWFORD: You said that you had wanted to release the report in full, and you largely have with the grand jury material being, of course, the exception. WILLIAM BARR: Right. And in the second volume that's one tenth of one percent of the report has been taken. JAN CRAWFORD: You, I just want to be clear on this. How long and how many, you expected the special counsel's office to redact that material, so to point out what should be redacted -- WILLIAM BARR: Right. Right. JAN CRAWFORD: So the four-page summary would have been unnecessary? WILLIAM BARR: Correct.
Here Barr explains why he had to release the summary, given that Mueller had deliberately turned in a report that could not, legally, be released:
Here's the part where Barr says specifically he asked Mueller "for weeks' to identify 6(e) material in the report, so that Barr could quickly scrub it and release the report in a very short time:
WILLIAM BARR: Right, because I didn't think the body politic would allow us to go on radio silence for four weeks. I mean, people were camped outside my house and the department and every- there was all kinds of wild speculation going on. Former senior intelligence officials who were purporting to have it- or intimating that they had inside information were suggesting that the president and his family were going to be indicted and so forth-- JAN CRAWFORD: And saying that publicly? WILLIAM BARR: Saying that publicly. There was all kind of wild and-- JAN CRAWFORD: And you knew that to be false? WILLIAM BARR: Yes, and it was wild and irresponsible speculation going on...
WILLIAM BARR: Right, and so because we were not involved in the investigation we would have no way looking at the report of determining what was grand jury material and what wasn't, so we had for a period of weeks been asking the special counsel's office to highlight the stuff so we could quickly process it for release and I guess-- JAN CRAWFORD: For a period of weeks you had asked for this material? WILLIAM BARR: Yeah even before the March 5 meeting we had asked or raised the subject-- JAN CRAWFORD: And what was the response? WILLIAM BARR: And then at the March 5 meeting I made it explicit and then after the March 5th meeting we asked.. JAN CRAWFORD: And what was the response? WILLIAM BARR: We thought it was being-- we thought it was being done and I do believe they were putting in more footnotes in that would be necessary ultimately in identifying the material but whether the wires were crossed or whatever it didn't come in a form that identified the 6E material. JAN CRAWFORD: And that was a surprise to you when you got the report? WILLIAM BARR: Yes.So you tell me: what's an alternate explanation to my speculation that this was done deliberately so that Weissmann and the 17 Angry Democrats could leak to the media during the deliberate multi-week news blackout on the report, and thereby shape the Narrative? On whether Mueller did not say Trump committed a crime only because of the OLC guidance against indicting a sitting president, and whether there is a "discrepancy" between Barr's and Mueller's statements about this:
WILLIAM BARR: The so-called discrepancy was that I had, I had testified earlier that Bob had assured me that he had not reached a decision that there was a crime committed but was not willing to pursue it simply because of the OLC opinion and that remains the fact. That's what his position is. That's consistent with what he said yesterday. And it certainly is consistent with the joint release we put out. The confusion arose because what Bob Mueller's position was was that the OLC opinion coupled with other things as a prudential matter made him feel that he shouldn't even get into the analysis of whether something was a crime or not and that's a different question than -- JAN CRAWFORD: Right, because you...just because there's evidence of obstruction or crime was committed doesn't mean the person is going to be charged or indicted or found to have committed that crime. WILLIAM BARR: Right and he didn't even get into that analysis. In other words, what I was discussing earlier was, was Bob, did Bob make a decision there was a crime and the only reason he wasn't saying that was because of the OLC opinion. The fact is Bob did not make a decision that there was a crime. He didn't get into the analysis at all. Part of the reason for that was his judgment about the OLC opinion coupled with other things he just didn't think it was proper exercise of his authority. So it's a totally different issue and that's why, that's why both us feel that this idea that there's been a discrepancy over the OLC opinion is simply wrong.
On Mueller's bizarre self-created legal standard of "we cannot exonerate the President:"
On whether the firing of the dainty prima donna and former Communist James Comey could be "obstruction of justice:"
JAN CRAWFORD: What is the fundamental difference? Why...I mean, he said he couldn't exonerate the president. That he had looked at the [evil -- garbled transcription, probably] there - these 11 instances of possible obstruction. He couldn't exonerate the president, if he could he would've stated so. You looked at that evidence and you did. I mean, what is the fundamental difference between your view and his? WILLIAM BARR: Well, I think Bob said that he was not going to engage in the analysis. He was, he was not going to make a determination one way or the other. And he also said that he could not say that the president was clearly did not violate the law, which of course is not the standard we use at the department. We have to determine whether there is clear violation of the law and so we applied the standards we would normally apply. We analyzed the law and the facts and a group of us spent a lot of time doing that and determined that both as a matter of law, many of the instances would not amount to obstruction. JAN CRAWFORD: As a matter of law? WILLIAM BARR: As a matter of law. In other words, we didn't agree with the legal analysis- a lot of the legal analysis in the report. It did not reflect the views of the department. It was the views of a particular lawyer or lawyers and so we applied what we thought was the right law but then we didn't rely on that. We also looked at all the facts, tried to determine whether the government could establish all the elements and as to each of those episodes we felt that the evidence was deficient.
BARR: ... [L]et's take the again the firing of Comey. One of the elements is that you have to show that the act objectively speaking will have the probable effect of obstructing a proceeding and we don't believe that the firing of an agency head could be established as having the probable effect, objectively speaking, of sabotaging a proceeding. There was also we would have to prove corrupt intent, the report itself points out that one of the likely motivations here was the president's frustration with Comey saying something publicly and saying a different thing privately and refusing to correct the record. So that would not have been a corrupt intent. So for each of these episodes we thought long and hard about it, we looked at the facts and we didn't feel the government could establish obstruction in these cases.
The next exchange underscores that Barr is unsatisfied with the FBI/Deep State's constantly-evolving answer about when and why this spying began -- and then Jan Crawford asks about whether he thinks there's something suspicious about the Fusion GPS-arranged Trump Tower meeting. Which he won't answer about. But his non-answer sounds a lot like he's very bothered by this:
JAN CRAWFORD: What have you seen? What evidence? What makes you think, I need to take a look at this? I mean, what have you seen in the summer of 2016? WILLIAM BARR: Well, I'll say at this point is that it, you know, I- like many other people who are familiar with intelligence activities, I had a lot of questions about what was going on. I assumed I'd get answers when I went in and I have not gotten answers that are well satisfactory, and in fact probably have more questions, and that some of the facts that- that I've learned don't hang together with the official explanations of what happened. JAN CRAWFORD: What do you mean by that? WILLIAM BARR: That's all I really will say. Things are just not jiving, and I'm not saying at this stage that-- JAN CRAWFORD: Was it a timeline? WILLIAM BARR: There was a timeline, there's some timeline-- JAN CRAWFORD: I mean, there's a concern that this may have happened before we realized that the investigation was initiated in July. I mean, what... WILLIAM BARR: I don't want to get into those details at this point. I would just say that, you know... JAN CRAWFORD: But you said there's a timeline concern. WILLIAM BARR: Well I won't, I won't confirm that, but I'll just say that, you know, there's some questions that I think have to be answered, and I have a basis for feeling there has to be a review of this. JAN CRAWFORD: You've said, you've said the time frame between the election and the inauguration, you've said this publicly, was kind of strange. Some strange things may have happened. What concerns you there? Specifically, the meeting at Trump Tower. WILLIAM BARR: I don't want to- I don't want to get into that.On whether he can be trusted to handle classified information and trusted to declassify only that which would not harm the American interest:
JAN CRAWFORD: And so you won't will you declassify things without reviewing it with them it seems like you have the authority to do that? WILLIAM BARR: Well in an exceptional circumstance I have that authority but obviously I intend to consult with them. I'm amused by these people who make a living by disclosing classified information, including the names of intelligence operatives, wringing their hands about whether I'm going to be responsible in protecting intelligence sources and methods. I've been in the business as I've said for over 50 years long before they were born and I know how to handle classified information and I believe strongly in protecting intelligence sources and methods. But at the same time if there is information that can be shared with the American people without jeopardizing intelligence sources and methods that decision should be made and because I will be involved in finding out what the story was I think I'm in the best decision to make that decision.
On whether there was "spying," and if it's proper for the Democrats and media and Deep State (but I repeat myself thrice) to freak out over the word:
This is super-interesting -- on whether foreign interference, or inteference by the US's own Deep State, is more troubling for democracy:
JAN CRAWFORD: So when we are talking about the kind of the-- well you have used the word spy. You have testified that you believe spying occurred. WILLIAM BARR: Yes. JAN CRAWFORD: Into the Trump campaign. WILLIAM BARR: Yes. JAN CRAWFORD: You've gotten some criticism for using that word. WILLIAM BARR: Yeah, I mean, I guess it's become a dirty word somehow. It hasn't ever been for me. I think there is nothing wrong with spying, the question is always whether it is authorized by law and properly predicated and if it is, then it's an important tool the United States has to protect the country. JAN CRAWFORD: On using the word, I mean, do you understand, and I know that some of the, some former intelligence chiefs have said that the president has made that word somewhat pejorative, that there is spying, this is a witch hunt, this is a hoax, and so your use of that word makes it seem that you are being a loyalist. WILLIAM BARR: You know, it's part of the craziness of the modern day that if a president uses a word, then all of a sudden it becomes off bounds. It's a perfectly good English word, I will continue to use it. JAN CRAWFORD: You're saying that spying occurred. There's not anything necessarily wrong with that. WILLIAM BARR: Right. JAN CRAWFORD: As long as there's a reason for it. WILLIAM BARR: Whether it's adequately predicated. And look, I think if we -- we are worried about foreign influence in the campaign? We should be because the heart of our system is the peaceful transfer of power through elections and what gives the government legitimacy is that process. And if foreign elements can come in and affect it, that's bad for the republic. But by the same token, it's just as, it's just as dangerous to the continuation of self-government and our republican system, republic that we not allow government power, law enforcement or intelligence power, to play a role in politics, to intrude into politics, and affect elections.
JAN CRAWFORD: ...interference versus say a government abuse of power, which is more troubling? WILLIAM BARR: Well they're both, they're both troubling. JAN CRAWFORD: Equally? WILLIAM BARR: In my mind, they are, sure. I mean, republics have fallen because of Praetorian Guard mentality where government officials get very arrogant, they identify the national interest with their own political preferences and they feel that anyone who has a different opinion, you know, is somehow an enemy of the state. And you know, there is that tendency that they know better and that, you know, they're there to protect as guardians of the people. That can easily translate into essentially supervening the will of the majority and getting your own way as a government official. JAN CRAWFORD: And you are concerned that that may have happened in 2016? WILLIAM BARR: Well, I just think it has to be carefully look at because the use of foreign intelligence capabilities and counterintelligence capabilities against an American political campaign to me is unprecedented and it's a serious red line that's been crossed. JAN CRAWFORD: Did that happen? WILLIAM BARR: There were counterintelligence activities undertaken against the Trump Campaign. And I'm not saying there was not a basis for it, that it was legitimate, but I want to see what that basis was and make sure it was legitimate. JAN CRAWFORD: So-- WILLIAM BARR: That's one of the, you know, one of the key responsibilities of the Attorney General, core responsibilities of the Attorney General is to make sure that government power is not abused and that the right of Americans are not transgressed by abusive government power. That's the responsibility of the Attorney General.This continues in the next section. Interesting fact here -- Barr used to be in the CIA, at least as an intern. He points out that it's very strange that the liberal establishment is now saying "YOLO" about the various safeguards which had been erected to keep the government from using FBI and CIA assets to spy on American political organizations and parties:
JAN CRAWFORD: --this. So again, just to go, just so that I think so people can more fully understand this, I mean have you, and I know it's early in the investigation, but when we are talking about the basis for this and why you think it is important and obviously any kind of government abuse of power, I mean, you were in the CIA in the '70s. You can see how that can have.... WILLIAM BARR: Right, when I, when I joined the CIA almost 50 years ago as an intern and this was during the Vietnam, civil rights era and there had been a lot...there were a lot of pending investigations of the CIA and there the issues were what was- when was it appropriate for intelligence agencies, the FBI too was under investigation. You know, the penetration of civil rights groups because at the time there was concerns about contacts with, you know, communist funded front groups and things like that and you know how deeply could you get into civil rights groups or anti-Vietnam war groups. A lot of these groups were in contact with foreign adversaries, they had some contact with front organizations and so forth and there were a lot of rules put in place and those rules are under the attorney general. The attorney general's responsibility is to make sure that these powers are not used to tread upon first amendment activity and that certainly was a big part of my formative years of dealing with those issues. The fact that today people just seem to brush aside the idea that it is okay to you know, to engage in these activities against a political campaign is stunning to me especially when the media doesn't seem to think that it's worth looking into. They're supposed to be the watchdogs of, you know, our civil liberties.Did he mean the media is blowing it off? As he makes clear, yes, indeed, he's talking about the media. This section occurs in a different part of the interview, but he brings it around to the media, so I'll put it here:
JAN CRAWFORD: But it seems like you have a concern that there may have been a bias by top officials in the FBI as they looked at whether to launch and conduct this investigation? WILLIAM BARR: Well it's hard to read some of the texts with and not feel that there was gross bias at work and they're appalling. And if the shoe were on the other-- JAN CRAWFORD: Appalling. WILLIAM BARR: Those were appalling. And on their face they were very damning and I think if the shoe was on the other foot we could be hearing a lot about it. If those kinds of discussions were held you know when Obama first ran for office, people talking about Obama in those tones and suggesting that "Oh that he might be a Manchurian candidate for Islam or something like that." You know some wild accusations like that and you had that kind of discussion back and forth, you don't think we would be hearing a lot more about it?Then he gets again to the media's complete lack of interest -- hostility towards the question, in fact -- about whether the US government targeted a rival political campaign for spying:
JAN CRAWFORD: I know you've seen some of the criticism and the push back on- on this. Do you have any concerns that doing this investigation, talking about de-classifying certain materials- that that's undermining your credibility or the credibility of the department? WILLIAM BARR: No I- I don't. I think it's- actually the reaction is somewhat strange. I mean normally-- JAN CRAWFORD: Strange? WILLIAM BARR: Sure. JAN CRAWFORD: Their reaction? WILLIAM BARR: Well the media reaction is strange. Normally the media would be interested in letting the sunshine in and finding out what the truth is. And usually the media doesn't care that much about protecting intelligence sources and methods. But I do and I will.On whether he agrees with Trump's characterization the Deep State conspiracy as "treason:"
WILLIAM BARR: Well, I- as a lawyer I always interpret the word treason not colloquially but legally. And you know the very specific criteria for treason- so I don't think it's actually implicated in the situation that we have now. But I think what he-- JAN CRAWFORD: Legally. WILLIAM BARR: Right. JAN CRAWFORD: You don't think that they've committed treason? WILLIAM BARR: Not as a legal matter, no. JAN CRAWFORD: But you have concerns about how they conducted the investigation? WILLIAM BARR: Yes but you know, when you're dealing with official government contact, intent is frequently a murky issue. I'm not suggesting that people did what they did necessarily because of conscious, nefarious motives. Sometimes people can convince themselves that what they're doing is in the higher interest, the better good. They don't realize that what they're doing is really antithetical to the democratic system that we have. They start viewing themselves as the guardians of the people that are more informed and insensitive than everybody else. They can- in their own mind, they can have those kinds of motives. And sometimes they can look at evidence and facts through a biased prism that they themselves don't realize.And more on "the guardians." He notes that whether the probe was legitimate or not depends on whether the underlying evidence for it was strong or weak, and characterizes it as very weak -- in fact, "bogus."
This little bit explains why Huber has been so silent -- apparently he chose to sideline himself while an independent IG investigation looked into the same matter. This makes no sense to me, given that the IG can only ask questions of current Federal employees while a prosecutor can compel testimony from ex- government officials, and can actually charge people with crimes whereas an IG can only recommend prosecution and recommend professional discipline, but oh well, I guess Huber's been twiddling his thumbs:
JAN CRAWFORD: You- I guess when you said that there were things done that were not the typical run of business, ad hoc, small group, it's not how these counterintelligence operations normally work. I think that maybe Comey and others might say well this was such an extraordinary thing we had to keep it so closely held. So we had to do it differently what's your response to that? Is that legit? WILLIAM BARR: Well it might be legit under certain circumstances but a lot of that has to do with how good the evidence was at that point. And you know Mueller has spent two and half years and the fact is there is no evidence of a conspiracy. So it was bogus, this whole idea that the Trump was in cahoots with the Russians is bogus.
Apparently Huber has sidelined himself, waiting for the IG to conduct his own investigation. Which seems like a bad move, because a prosecutor has a lot more authority to investigate than an IG. But Barr seems to say this is "normal" for the department:
JAN CRAWFORD: Um, what's the status of Huber's investigation in Utah? I think the former Attorney General Sessions had asked him to look at this. WILLIAM BARR: Right, so Huber had originally been asked to take a look at the FISA applications and the electronic surveillance but then he stood back and put that on hold while the Office of Inspector General was conducting its review, which would've been normal for the department. And he was essentially on standby in case Mr. Horowitz referred a matter to him to be handled criminally. So he has not been active on this front in recent months and so Durham is taking over that role. The other issues he's been working on relate to Hillary Clinton. Those are winding down and hopefully we'll be in a position to bring those to fruition.
To wrap up, Barr talks about his reputation, which has been trashed by the left and the media. First part:
On his reputation and the damage the left is doing to it, part two:
JAN CRAWFORD: But when you came into this job, you were kind of, it's like the US Attorney in Connecticut, I mean, you had a good reputation on the right and on the left. You were a man with a good reputation. You are not someone who is, you know, accused of protecting the president, enabling the president, lying to Congress. Did you expect that coming in? And what is your response to it? How do you? What's your response to that? WILLIAM BARR: Well in a way I did expect it. JAN CRAWFORD: You did? WILLIAM BARR: Yeah, because I realize we live in a crazy hyper-partisan period of time and I knew that it would only be a matter of time if I was behaving responsibly and calling them as I see them, that I would be attacked because nowadays people don't care about the merits and the substance. They only care about who it helps, who benefits, whether my side benefits or the other side benefits, everything is gauged by politics. And as I say, that's antithetical to the way the department runs and any attorney general in this period is going to end up losing a lot of political capital and I realize that and that is one of the reasons that I ultimately was persuaded that I should take it on because I think at my stage in life it really doesn't make any difference.
On his reputation being savaged by his critics (on the left and in the media, but I repeat myself), part three, and about being too old to give any fucks:
JAN CRAWFORD: When you see some of the criticism and you've gotten quite a bit of it that you're protecting the president that you're enabling the president, what's your response to that?
WILLIAM BARR: Well, we live in a hyper-partisan age where people no longer really pay attention to the substance of what's said but as to who says it and what side they're on and what it's political ramifications are. The Department of Justice is all about the law, and the facts and the substance and I'm going to make the decisions based on the law and the facts and I realize that's intention with the political climate we live in because people are more interested in getting their way politically. so I think it just goes with the territory of being the attorney general in a hyper-partisan period of time.
JAN CRAWFORD: Does it, I mean, it's the reputation that you have worked your whole life on though? WILLIAM BARR: Yeah, but everyone dies and I am not, you know, I don't believe in the Homeric idea that you know, immortality comes by, you know, having odes sung about you over the centuries, you know?Love that.
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Girthy.
Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2019 02:00 PM (qYfHh)
14
None of you fucks read it. Me neither.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 31, 2019 02:00 PM (7OF+y)
15
The film was good
Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 31, 2019 02:00 PM (flINI)
16
So, should I see the movie?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 31, 2019 02:01 PM (KUaJL)
Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2019 02:01 PM (O2RFr)
18
That's a lot of content. ...But no math, thankfully
Posted by: Pete Seria at May 31, 2019 02:01 PM (7ZQe3)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2019 02:01 PM (aKsyK)
20
. They don't realize that what they're doing is really antithetical to the democratic system that we have.
...
Did he just give them an out by saying there was no intent?
...
Did he just give them an out by saying there was no intent?
Posted by: Ha at May 31, 2019 02:01 PM (MAstk)
21
Shut it!
Posted by: Sgt. Nicholas Angel at May 31, 2019 02:02 PM (NWiLs)
22
A sharp-eyed friend points out that Rod Rosenstein was supposedly Mueller's boss and supervisor through this process, and yet was surprised by Mueller's decision not to decide.
What the fuck was he doing for two years?
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I think smirking and pulling his pud covers it.
What the fuck was he doing for two years?
_______
I think smirking and pulling his pud covers it.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 31, 2019 02:02 PM (VaN/j)
23
Cliff's Notes version for those of us atwerk?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 31, 2019 02:03 PM (eg609)
24
LOL get fucked Democrats and Trump haters
Posted by: steevy at May 31, 2019 02:03 PM (AjVAj)
25
Our president finally has the Attorney General he deserves (and needs). Winning!!
Posted by: zeera with a new book, link in nic at May 31, 2019 02:03 PM (3Bzg7)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 31, 2019 02:04 PM (oVJmc)
27
Do they get to the dragons by the end of the review??
Posted by: andycanuck at May 31, 2019 02:04 PM (Dh1wo)
28
>>I'm amused by people who make a living disclosing classified information including the names of intelligence operative wringing their hands about whether I can handle classified information.
JAB!
I want to subscribe to this man's newsletter, please!
JAB!
I want to subscribe to this man's newsletter, please!
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2019 02:04 PM (W+vEI)
29
That interviewer is going to be fired isn't she?Or reassigned to covering cat shows or something...
Posted by: steevy at May 31, 2019 02:05 PM (AjVAj)
30
We're at twerk all day!
Posted by: City Girls at May 31, 2019 02:06 PM (Dh1wo)
31
Pardon my ignorance, but, Who's Jan Crawford?
Posted by: random lurker commenter at May 31, 2019 02:06 PM (48RE5)
32
"I'm amused by people who make a living disclosing classified information including the names of intelligence operative wringing their hands about whether I can handle classified information."
It moved.
It moved.
Posted by: G marks the spot at May 31, 2019 02:06 PM (7syfl)
33
Wow, can't wait to go back and read this baby!!!
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at May 31, 2019 02:06 PM (jjaLl)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2019 02:07 PM (zBaqJ)
35
Wow this is long. Wasn't following the last thread closely bu the precise nature of Purgatory has not been defined, Orthodox believe in it too obviously, and Indulgences are largely in keeping with traditions regarding remission of sin(such as baptism and confession).
Catholics also can and do pray for people in Purgatory(prayers for the dead). Prayers for the dead are theologically incompatible with Protestant positions and why the book of Maccabees is viewed as problematic(which Luther acknowledged as a difficulty). Protestant Bibles typically no longer have those books though for some centuries they kept them in the appendix.
For the obvious reasons, praying for those in Hell or Heaven makes no sense.
Catholics also can and do pray for people in Purgatory(prayers for the dead). Prayers for the dead are theologically incompatible with Protestant positions and why the book of Maccabees is viewed as problematic(which Luther acknowledged as a difficulty). Protestant Bibles typically no longer have those books though for some centuries they kept them in the appendix.
For the obvious reasons, praying for those in Hell or Heaven makes no sense.
Posted by: Someguy at May 31, 2019 02:07 PM (xYwhN)
Posted by: Jan Crawford at May 31, 2019 02:07 PM (flINI)
37
Longest. Post. Evah!
And I read the content!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
By the lack of comments, I think a lot are reading it.
And I read the content!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
By the lack of comments, I think a lot are reading it.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 31, 2019 02:07 PM (eg609)
38
So Huber isn't coming? I was lead to believe otherwise. What next, Sessions wasn't playing 64th dimension chess?
Posted by: Bete at May 31, 2019 02:08 PM (Ojki1)
39
I love long Ace posts (I am being serious). More Ace =more awesome.
Anyway, before I continue reading under the fold, I have to say I love Barr. He is very direct and doesn't give a rat's patootie. He's also very calm and not moved by the hysterics of the media and Dems (BIRM).
I saw a snippet of the interview and I'll definitely listen to the entire thing once I free myself from the shackles of work for the day.
Anyway, before I continue reading under the fold, I have to say I love Barr. He is very direct and doesn't give a rat's patootie. He's also very calm and not moved by the hysterics of the media and Dems (BIRM).
I saw a snippet of the interview and I'll definitely listen to the entire thing once I free myself from the shackles of work for the day.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 31, 2019 02:08 PM (9hauA)
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It seems pretty clear that Barr knows just about everything but is being careful not to say too much.
Gonna be a fun few months.
Gonna be a fun few months.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 02:08 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:08 PM (9cans)
42
Can you imagine if Bill Barr had been AG since day one?
Can you imagine if Bill Barr had been AG since day one?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2019 02:08 PM (zBaqJ)
43
>So Huber isn't coming? I was lead to believe otherwise. What next, Sessions wasn't playing 64th dimension chess?
Sometimes it pays to read the whole transcript instead of a summation. Some stuff tends to get left out.
>>Sessions had also asked Huber in 2017 to look into issues related to the sale of Uranium One and allegations that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had been improperly involved in the process, as well as broader claims of corruption at the Clinton Foundation. Barr seemed to suggest that what evidence Huber found, if any, may soon be revealed.
>>"The other issues [Huber has] been working on relate to Hillary Clinton" are "winding down and hopefully we'll be in a position to bring those to fruition," Barr said.
Sometimes it pays to read the whole transcript instead of a summation. Some stuff tends to get left out.
>>Sessions had also asked Huber in 2017 to look into issues related to the sale of Uranium One and allegations that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had been improperly involved in the process, as well as broader claims of corruption at the Clinton Foundation. Barr seemed to suggest that what evidence Huber found, if any, may soon be revealed.
>>"The other issues [Huber has] been working on relate to Hillary Clinton" are "winding down and hopefully we'll be in a position to bring those to fruition," Barr said.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 02:09 PM (/tuJf)
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Can you imagine if Bill Barr had been AG since day one?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2019 02:08 PM (zBaqJ)
Needed to prep battlefield first.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2019 02:08 PM (zBaqJ)
Needed to prep battlefield first.
Posted by: random lurker commenter at May 31, 2019 02:09 PM (48RE5)
45
"Well the media reaction is strange. Normally the media would be interested in letting the sunshine in and finding out what the truth is. And usually the media doesn't care that much about protecting intelligence sources and methods. But I do and I will."
_______________
Damn, I wish I could speak off the cuff like that.
_______________
Damn, I wish I could speak off the cuff like that.
Posted by: BuckIV at May 31, 2019 02:10 PM (PZ2ib)
46
Did he just give them an out by saying there was no intent?
Posted by: Ha at May 31, 2019 02:01 PM (MAstk)
No, I think he meant that they think their malfeasance constitutes a higher good, and so is Justified. He goes on to say that they are very wrong about that. I noticed some people freaking out about this statement on the Twitters. I'm not sure why.
Posted by: Ha at May 31, 2019 02:01 PM (MAstk)
No, I think he meant that they think their malfeasance constitutes a higher good, and so is Justified. He goes on to say that they are very wrong about that. I noticed some people freaking out about this statement on the Twitters. I'm not sure why.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 31, 2019 02:10 PM (9hauA)
47
42 what a different world we'd be living in, that's for sure.
Posted by: Bete at May 31, 2019 02:10 PM (Ojki1)
48
I at least glanced at the post.
Looks like the AG is raising the Barr on the practice of "lol, get fuvked".
Looks like the AG is raising the Barr on the practice of "lol, get fuvked".
Posted by: Delaforce at May 31, 2019 02:10 PM (pJ5N0)
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32 "I'm amused by people who make a living disclosing classified information including the names of intelligence operative wringing their hands about whether I can handle classified information."
It moved.
Posted by: G marks the spot at May 31, 2019 02:06 PM (7syfl)
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Seriously, Hollywood (Spielberg specifically) just came out with the All the President's Men prequel The Post.
In it, the NYT and WaPo release books of classified intel to the public without any real concern for the contents, and they were the heroes.
Now, AG Barr wants to do something similar, but completely legal, within his authority, and controlled to actually protect sources and methods, and he's the devil.
The cognitive dissonance is just amazing.
It moved.
Posted by: G marks the spot at May 31, 2019 02:06 PM (7syfl)
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Seriously, Hollywood (Spielberg specifically) just came out with the All the President's Men prequel The Post.
In it, the NYT and WaPo release books of classified intel to the public without any real concern for the contents, and they were the heroes.
Now, AG Barr wants to do something similar, but completely legal, within his authority, and controlled to actually protect sources and methods, and he's the devil.
The cognitive dissonance is just amazing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:11 PM (9cans)
Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2019 02:11 PM (qYfHh)
51
Great post!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2019 02:11 PM (axyOa)
52
Sounds like Barr is going to transfer a lot of people to HR.
Posted by: blaster at May 31, 2019 02:12 PM (9VeU0)
53
Barr definitely brought the heat.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at May 31, 2019 02:12 PM (dQtSi)
54
A sharp-eyed friend points out that Rod Rosenstein was supposedly Mueller's boss and supervisor through this process, and yet was surprised by Mueller's decision not to decide.
What the fuck was he doing for two years? Did Mueller not check in with him? Did Rosenstein never ask what the initial findings were?
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Almost like Rosenstein's rodent like features indicates what type a person he is.
What the fuck was he doing for two years? Did Mueller not check in with him? Did Rosenstein never ask what the initial findings were?
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Almost like Rosenstein's rodent like features indicates what type a person he is.
Posted by: MAGA at May 31, 2019 02:12 PM (HzH5c)
55
>> Can you imagine if Bill Barr had been AG since day one?
Think it was intentional that a different AG would handle this after the SC wrapped up?
Trump has to ensure that there is distance between himself and whatever action is taken so that there can be minimal credible accusations that the action is politically motivated?
Think it was intentional that a different AG would handle this after the SC wrapped up?
Trump has to ensure that there is distance between himself and whatever action is taken so that there can be minimal credible accusations that the action is politically motivated?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2019 02:12 PM (W+vEI)
56
One thing new jumped out at me - Huber has been a total bust. Nothing is coming from Huber, he's done. Durham is his replacement, and the one who is most likely to do anything.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 31, 2019 02:12 PM (Kpl3J)
57
>> Read it all.
Me, too.
Well. Not really.
But, I want Ace to feel good about himself so maybe he will start eating again.
Me, too.
Well. Not really.
But, I want Ace to feel good about himself so maybe he will start eating again.
Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2019 02:12 PM (qYfHh)
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52 Sounds like Barr is going to transfer a lot of people to HR.
Posted by: blaster at May 31, 2019 02:12 PM (9VeU0)
I'd prefer he sent them to the cornfield.
Posted by: blaster at May 31, 2019 02:12 PM (9VeU0)
I'd prefer he sent them to the cornfield.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 31, 2019 02:12 PM (NWiLs)
59
None of the definitions for "baller" I found on line made sense???? What does it mean in this context?
Posted by: E, ROBOT at May 31, 2019 02:12 PM (RVmAx)
60
what's an alternate explanation to my speculation that this was done deliberately so that Weissmann and the 17 Angry Democrats could leak to the media during the deliberate multi-week news blackout on the report, and thereby shape the Narrative?
Incompetence, and sloth. These are not, despite reputation, top men. It probably was on purpose to shape the narrative and hurt the president but it could have been just they are lousy at their job and basically lazy.
Mueller has spent two and half years and the fact is there is no evidence of a conspiracy. So it was bogus, this whole idea that the Trump was in cahoots with the Russians is bogus.
And what is insane is that the left, having learned this, having reached "Mueller Time" and found out that the beer keg was dry, now is acting as if it actually somehow was true all along anyway.
Incompetence, and sloth. These are not, despite reputation, top men. It probably was on purpose to shape the narrative and hurt the president but it could have been just they are lousy at their job and basically lazy.
Mueller has spent two and half years and the fact is there is no evidence of a conspiracy. So it was bogus, this whole idea that the Trump was in cahoots with the Russians is bogus.
And what is insane is that the left, having learned this, having reached "Mueller Time" and found out that the beer keg was dry, now is acting as if it actually somehow was true all along anyway.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 02:13 PM (39g3+)
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I wish I was a little bit taller
I wish I was a baller
I wish I had a girl who looked good, I would call her
I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat
And a six four Impala
I wish I was a baller
I wish I had a girl who looked good, I would call her
I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat
And a six four Impala
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 31, 2019 02:13 PM (5l6gb)
62
Release The Barr!
Posted by: Does a barr shit in the woods? at May 31, 2019 02:13 PM (88+cf)
Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2019 02:14 PM (qYfHh)
64
"[R]epublics have fallen because of Praetorian Guard mentality where government officials get very arrogant, they identify the national interest with their own political preferences and they feel that anyone who has a different opinion, you know, is somehow an enemy of the state."
"Politicians do not place their personal interests before the national interest: they regard them as indispensable to the national interest." - Aaron Haspel
"[R]epublics have fallen because of Praetorian Guard mentality where government officials get very arrogant, they identify the national interest with their own political preferences and they feel that anyone who has a different opinion, you know, is somehow an enemy of the state."
"Politicians do not place their personal interests before the national interest: they regard them as indispensable to the national interest." - Aaron Haspel
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2019 02:14 PM (BWL+E)
65
Huber was Jeff Session's idea of a squirrel to deflect rising pressure (at the time) for a second Special Counsel. That's all he was.
Posted by: Revenant at May 31, 2019 02:14 PM (M2MwI)
66
60
And what is insane is that the left, having learned this, having reached "Mueller Time" and found out that the beer keg was dry, now is acting as if it actually somehow was true all along anyway.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 02:13 PM (39g3+)
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"Mumble, grumble obstruction."
And what is insane is that the left, having learned this, having reached "Mueller Time" and found out that the beer keg was dry, now is acting as if it actually somehow was true all along anyway.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 02:13 PM (39g3+)
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"Mumble, grumble obstruction."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:14 PM (9cans)
67
TL;DR
In my defense I'm on a phone
In my defense I'm on a phone
Posted by: Total Control Racist at May 31, 2019 02:15 PM (7t+Lh)
68
Lawyer up you rats, there's a whirlwind coming your way.
Posted by: zeera with a new book, link in nic at May 31, 2019 02:15 PM (3Bzg7)
69
64
"[R]epublics have fallen because of Praetorian Guard mentality where government officials get very arrogant, they identify the national interest with their own political preferences and they feel that anyone who has a different opinion, you know, is somehow an enemy of the state."
"Politicians do not place their personal interests before the national interest: they regard them as indispensable to the national interest." - Aaron Haspel
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2019 02:14 PM (BWL+E)
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"If GE doesn't buy me off with at least one more Porsche, then the terrorists win."
"[R]epublics have fallen because of Praetorian Guard mentality where government officials get very arrogant, they identify the national interest with their own political preferences and they feel that anyone who has a different opinion, you know, is somehow an enemy of the state."
"Politicians do not place their personal interests before the national interest: they regard them as indispensable to the national interest." - Aaron Haspel
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2019 02:14 PM (BWL+E)
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"If GE doesn't buy me off with at least one more Porsche, then the terrorists win."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:15 PM (9cans)
70
Post-Apocalyptic Collander Face-Mask-Wearing Attorney General Barr is Best AG Barr . . .
"Just walk away . . . "
"Just walk away . . . "
Posted by: Sharkman at May 31, 2019 02:15 PM (FzjAl)
71
Barr is exactly the honey badger they needed for this job. Wish we had a few hundred more to pack the rest of the Administration.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at May 31, 2019 02:15 PM (J+mig)
72
A lot of the hedging and legalese is frustrating. But when Barr speaks clearly and directly there, it's refreshing.
Fuck Jeff Sessions, by the way.
Fuck Jeff Sessions, by the way.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at May 31, 2019 02:16 PM (bcbK8)
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I will believe this when the pre-dawn SWAT assaults on the lawyers and bureaucrats are being shown by embedded tv crews. Until then? I will assume another D.C. public theatre presentation of too many bold words and no action whatsoever.
Posted by: Downcast at May 31, 2019 02:16 PM (EySW2)
74
Yes. THE cornfield.
Posted by: john doe at May 31, 2019 02:16 PM (WX+x0)
75
"Miss me yet?" -- Jeff Sessions
Posted by: ShainS -- Adversity Score = -1600 (full Self-Reliance penalty) at May 31, 2019 02:16 PM (ypiFS)
76
He would be an absolute ball-breaker on the Supreme Court.
Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2019 02:16 PM (Z1eux)
77
Sounds like Barr is going to transfer a lot of people to HR.
Posted by: blaster at May 31, 2019 02:12 PM (9VeU0)
I'd prefer he sent them to the cornfield.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 31, 2019 02:12 PM (NWiLs)
The new DoJ satellite office on Attu needs staffing.
Posted by: blaster at May 31, 2019 02:12 PM (9VeU0)
I'd prefer he sent them to the cornfield.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 31, 2019 02:12 PM (NWiLs)
The new DoJ satellite office on Attu needs staffing.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at May 31, 2019 02:17 PM (dQtSi)
78
Bill Barr will defenestrate Huber.
Posted by: Roland THTG at May 31, 2019 02:17 PM (88+cf)
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Sometimes people can convince themselves that what they're doing is in the higher interest, the better good. They don't realize that what they're doing is really antithetical to the democratic system that we have.
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YER DAMN RIGHT I ORDERED THAT CODE RED
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YER DAMN RIGHT I ORDERED THAT CODE RED
Posted by: COL John Brennen at May 31, 2019 02:17 PM (9qOCq)
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 31, 2019 02:17 PM (wCmLp)
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So, are we still pretending Sessions, Rosenstein, and Huber have all just been laying in wait for their moment to strike? Or have we given up on that fantasy?
Oh, I see now we're on to believing that Huber's got Hillary dead to rights on Uranium One and he's just been sitting on it because he's methodical or something. Got it. Keep hope alive!
Oh, I see now we're on to believing that Huber's got Hillary dead to rights on Uranium One and he's just been sitting on it because he's methodical or something. Got it. Keep hope alive!
Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at May 31, 2019 02:17 PM (hdzef)
82
What are the chances that TFG gave secret, blanket pardons to Comey, Clapper, et al. for their roles in the coup attempt?
Posted by: josephistan at May 31, 2019 02:17 PM (Izzlo)
83
Say "spy" for me, 6(e)!
Posted by: andycanuck at May 31, 2019 02:17 PM (Dh1wo)
Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2019 02:18 PM (Z1eux)
85
Thank you for this Ace, this is fantastic.
Regarding Huber, I don't think he's just been twiddling his thumbs. At the end of that 'graph:
"The other issues he's been working on relate to Hillary Clinton. Those are winding down and hopefully we'll be in a position to bring those to fruition."
Sounds like "stay tuned"
MOAR FRUITION PLEEZE
Regarding Huber, I don't think he's just been twiddling his thumbs. At the end of that 'graph:
"The other issues he's been working on relate to Hillary Clinton. Those are winding down and hopefully we'll be in a position to bring those to fruition."
Sounds like "stay tuned"
MOAR FRUITION PLEEZE
Posted by: milquetoast bourgeoisie mortgage-paying neighbor in flyover country at May 31, 2019 02:18 PM (TPgeI)
86
Finally. Barr is the right man at the right time, apparently.
Posted by: SteveOReno, I proudly self-identify as a Moron at May 31, 2019 02:18 PM (2sCft)
87
You know, the penetration of civil rights groups because at the time
there was concerns about contacts with, you know, communist funded front
groups and things like that and you know how deeply could you get into
civil rights groups or anti-Vietnam war groups. A lot of these groups
were in contact with foreign adversaries, they had some contact with
front organizations and so forth and there were a lot of rules put in
place and those rules are under the attorney general.
I bet he's referring to Little Billy Ayers.
there was concerns about contacts with, you know, communist funded front
groups and things like that and you know how deeply could you get into
civil rights groups or anti-Vietnam war groups. A lot of these groups
were in contact with foreign adversaries, they had some contact with
front organizations and so forth and there were a lot of rules put in
place and those rules are under the attorney general.
I bet he's referring to Little Billy Ayers.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 31, 2019 02:18 PM (HaL55)
88
Seriously, Hollywood (Spielberg specifically) just came out with the All the President's Men prequel The Post.
In it, the NYT and WaPo release books of classified intel to the public without any real concern for the contents, and they were the heroes.
Now, AG Barr wants to do something similar, but completely legal, within his authority, and controlled to actually protect sources and methods, and he's the devil.
The cognitive dissonance is just amazing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:11 PM (9cans)
It's predictable. It's tribal.
Anything that helps their side is acceptable.
Anything that doesn't is evil.
It's banal and evil and expected. The enemy is going act against us.
In it, the NYT and WaPo release books of classified intel to the public without any real concern for the contents, and they were the heroes.
Now, AG Barr wants to do something similar, but completely legal, within his authority, and controlled to actually protect sources and methods, and he's the devil.
The cognitive dissonance is just amazing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:11 PM (9cans)
It's predictable. It's tribal.
Anything that helps their side is acceptable.
Anything that doesn't is evil.
It's banal and evil and expected. The enemy is going act against us.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at May 31, 2019 02:18 PM (bcbK8)
89
Georgia should vote to repeal all tax breaks on Hollywood productions.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 31, 2019 02:18 PM (oVJmc)
90
I like the cut of this man's jib.
Posted by: DocJ at May 31, 2019 02:18 PM (NYS7S)
91
any post calling Barr a baller has to include this clip of him getting a lift in a military aircraft
https://twitter.com/KerriKupecDOJ/status/1134255756088266753
https://twitter.com/KerriKupecDOJ/status/1134255756088266753
Posted by: Jose at May 31, 2019 02:18 PM (Yzham)
Posted by: Roland THTG at May 31, 2019 02:18 PM (88+cf)
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40 It seems pretty clear that Barr knows just about everything but is being careful not to say too much.
Gonna be a fun few months.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 02:08 PM (/tuJf)
Yeah, I loved the way he refused to say anything at all about the Trump Tower meeting - very lawyerly of him. With smart people like Barr, you can often find out a whole lot from what they DON'T say.
Gonna be a fun few months.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 02:08 PM (/tuJf)
Yeah, I loved the way he refused to say anything at all about the Trump Tower meeting - very lawyerly of him. With smart people like Barr, you can often find out a whole lot from what they DON'T say.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 31, 2019 02:19 PM (Kpl3J)
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>>Georgia should vote to repeal all tax breaks on Hollywood productions.
They should find them Un-Constitutional and Incompatible with Georgia Law and then force Hollywood to pay the back taxes.
They should find them Un-Constitutional and Incompatible with Georgia Law and then force Hollywood to pay the back taxes.
Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2019 02:19 PM (qYfHh)
95
Wow. Teh Ewok really liked this movie.
Wow. Teh Ewok really liked this movie.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 31, 2019 02:19 PM (veoSD)
96
Whose bitch dis is? What a terrible interviewer.
Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at May 31, 2019 02:20 PM (LsZu/)
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That was the politest I am old and do not give a fuck about you pathetic, spineless, lying assholes destroying me because you are tiny dicked little gnats I have ever read.
WILLIAM BARR: As a matter of law. In other words, we didn't agree with the legal analysis- a lot of the legal analysis in the report. It did not reflect the views of the department. It was the views of a particular lawyer or lawyers and so we applied what we thought was the right law but then we didn't rely on that.
This this this this this.
There's a push out there in prosecutorland that any, and I do mean any, attempts by a defendant to deny his guilt is per se obstruction. That's what they were doing to Trump and it is good to see an AG push back against this.
WILLIAM BARR: As a matter of law. In other words, we didn't agree with the legal analysis- a lot of the legal analysis in the report. It did not reflect the views of the department. It was the views of a particular lawyer or lawyers and so we applied what we thought was the right law but then we didn't rely on that.
This this this this this.
There's a push out there in prosecutorland that any, and I do mean any, attempts by a defendant to deny his guilt is per se obstruction. That's what they were doing to Trump and it is good to see an AG push back against this.
Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 31, 2019 02:20 PM (GbPPJ)
98
80 The next two years are going to be fun.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 31, 2019 02:17 PM (wCmLp)
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April 7, 2021
"Bill de Blasio, mayor of NYC, has left the Democratic Party and joined the newly formed Progressive Party at a ceremony in Washington, D.C. today. He said in his speech that the 'current Democratic Party is moribund and cannot fight the Republican Party that recently retook the House. We need a new direction and cannot find that within the relic that is the Democratic Party with its centuries of ties to Jim Crow and slavery.' Tensions within the party have been high since the unexpected loss to Donald Trump in November of last year."
-NYT
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 31, 2019 02:17 PM (wCmLp)
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April 7, 2021
"Bill de Blasio, mayor of NYC, has left the Democratic Party and joined the newly formed Progressive Party at a ceremony in Washington, D.C. today. He said in his speech that the 'current Democratic Party is moribund and cannot fight the Republican Party that recently retook the House. We need a new direction and cannot find that within the relic that is the Democratic Party with its centuries of ties to Jim Crow and slavery.' Tensions within the party have been high since the unexpected loss to Donald Trump in November of last year."
-NYT
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:20 PM (9cans)
Posted by: Total Control Racist at May 31, 2019 02:20 PM (7t+Lh)
100
He's a Barrer
Posted by: Sum Ting Wong at May 31, 2019 02:20 PM (Izzlo)
101
Comforting yourself with a notion that everyone dies and it doesn't really matter how history remembers you: possibility you know you've lost your way.
Posted by: Roberto E Leo, The Spanish Godfather at May 31, 2019 02:20 PM (DP0Mf)
102
Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 31, 2019 02:08 PM (9hauA)
That was my overall impression but defense lawyers will take "they didn't realize" and use it.
That was my overall impression but defense lawyers will take "they didn't realize" and use it.
Posted by: Ha at May 31, 2019 02:21 PM (MAstk)
103
I wonder if his 'you knows' sound as bad as they read. Besides that, a-1 baller.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 31, 2019 02:21 PM (iXJM1)
Posted by: Last of the Mohicans at May 31, 2019 02:21 PM (geTNO)
105
Midnight raids on Perkins Cole and esp Glenn Simpson and the FusionGPS pukes please. Then it'll be popcorn time.
Posted by: zeera with a new book, link in nic at May 31, 2019 02:21 PM (3Bzg7)
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88 It's predictable. It's tribal.
Anything that helps their side is acceptable.
Anything that doesn't is evil.
It's banal and evil and expected. The enemy is going act against us.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at May 31, 2019 02:18 PM (bcbK
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Banal is good. The hypocrisy itself is boring, but the speed with which they turn on single issues is still amazing.
Anything that helps their side is acceptable.
Anything that doesn't is evil.
It's banal and evil and expected. The enemy is going act against us.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at May 31, 2019 02:18 PM (bcbK
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Banal is good. The hypocrisy itself is boring, but the speed with which they turn on single issues is still amazing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:21 PM (9cans)
107
89 Georgia should vote to repeal all tax breaks on Hollywood productions.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 31, 2019 02:18 PM (oVJmc)
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"You're not quitting. You're fired."
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 31, 2019 02:18 PM (oVJmc)
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"You're not quitting. You're fired."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:21 PM (9cans)
108
What are the chances that TFG gave secret, blanket pardons to Comey, Clapper, et al. for their roles in the coup attempt?
Even if he did, they would only apply to actions taken up to the time of the pardon which at latest would be January 2017. Anything after that he can't pardon; that is, the president cannot legally issue Carte Blache to cover all actions taken in the future. Only forgive actions taken in the past.
Even if he did, they would only apply to actions taken up to the time of the pardon which at latest would be January 2017. Anything after that he can't pardon; that is, the president cannot legally issue Carte Blache to cover all actions taken in the future. Only forgive actions taken in the past.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 02:21 PM (39g3+)
109
While reading this I have BoC's "Joan Crawford" playing on a loop in my head.
Adds a certain ambiance to the proceedings.
Adds a certain ambiance to the proceedings.
Posted by: Sharkman at May 31, 2019 02:22 PM (FzjAl)
110
As I've said before, I was initially leery of Barr when PDT appointed him -- worrying that he was likely a swamp creature -- but have been surprised beyond belief now and am thrilled I was wrong.
Posted by: ShainSShainS -- gender = non-sexagesimal; pronouns = lol/get/f***cked at May 31, 2019 02:22 PM (ypiFS)
111
89 Georgia should vote to repeal all tax breaks on Hollywood productions.
Effective immediately the state of Georgia will introduce a streaming video service allowing for free access to all content from firms that boycott the state.
Effective immediately the state of Georgia will introduce a streaming video service allowing for free access to all content from firms that boycott the state.
Posted by: JEM at May 31, 2019 02:22 PM (8erNz)
112
Rush really talking the Barr interview up - playing clips
It's beautiful
It's beautiful
Posted by: Big Star at May 31, 2019 02:22 PM (nb8+g)
113
108 What are the chances that TFG gave secret, blanket pardons to Comey, Clapper, et al. for their roles in the coup attempt?
Even if he did, they would only apply to actions taken up to the time of the pardon which at latest would be January 2017. Anything after that he can't pardon; that is, the president cannot legally issue Carte Blache to cover all actions taken in the future. Only forgive actions taken in the past.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 02:21 PM (39g3+)
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I don't know. Obama was a constitutional scholar, and we have a living constitution.
Future pardons seem like something he would have tried.
Even if he did, they would only apply to actions taken up to the time of the pardon which at latest would be January 2017. Anything after that he can't pardon; that is, the president cannot legally issue Carte Blache to cover all actions taken in the future. Only forgive actions taken in the past.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 02:21 PM (39g3+)
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I don't know. Obama was a constitutional scholar, and we have a living constitution.
Future pardons seem like something he would have tried.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:22 PM (9cans)
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WILLIAM BARR: As a matter of law. In other words, we didn't agree with the legal analysis- a lot of the legal analysis in the report. It did not reflect the views of the department. It was the views of a particular lawyer or lawyers and so we applied what we thought was the right law but then we didn't rely on that.
Effing Weissman!
Effing Weissman!
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 02:22 PM (cF8AT)
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....We need a new direction and cannot find that within the relic that is the Democratic Party with its centuries of ties to Jim Crow and slavery.' Tensions within the party have been high since the unexpected loss to Donald Trump in November of last year."
-NYT DeBlasio
You mean that Dems were actually the party of Jim Crow laws and slavery? Liberals always say that the party's changed and it was really Republicans.
-NYT DeBlasio
You mean that Dems were actually the party of Jim Crow laws and slavery? Liberals always say that the party's changed and it was really Republicans.
Posted by: Cheri at May 31, 2019 02:23 PM (oiNtH)
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There's a push out there in prosecutorland that any, and I do mean any, attempts by a defendant to deny his guilt is per se obstruction. That's what they were doing to Trump and it is good to see an AG push back against this.
Congress and the courts need to push back on this. Hard. The federal law enforcement machine has been given far too much power and too much ability to simply ignore civil rights in the name of "but its easier this way."
Congress and the courts need to push back on this. Hard. The federal law enforcement machine has been given far too much power and too much ability to simply ignore civil rights in the name of "but its easier this way."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 02:23 PM (39g3+)
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>>Comforting yourself with a notion that everyone dies and it doesn't really matter how history remembers you:
I am so sorry about your genetic deficiencies.
I am so sorry about your genetic deficiencies.
Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2019 02:23 PM (qYfHh)
118
Past 100, so going OT.
Why does the SJW Left love Iran so much?
It's more than just "because Muslims", because they hate the KSA, and it's not a Sunni/Shia thing either, because they don't complain about other Sunni-majority nations either.
But man, they absolutely LOVE them some Iran.
Why does the SJW Left love Iran so much?
It's more than just "because Muslims", because they hate the KSA, and it's not a Sunni/Shia thing either, because they don't complain about other Sunni-majority nations either.
But man, they absolutely LOVE them some Iran.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 31, 2019 02:23 PM (O/85K)
Posted by: simplemind at May 31, 2019 02:23 PM (hFoGB)
120
Posted by: Roberto E Leo, The Spanish Godfather at May 31, 2019 02:20 PM (DP0Mf)
Aw is the bad man ruining your fantasy ?
Aw is the bad man ruining your fantasy ?
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 31, 2019 02:23 PM (iXJM1)
121
Trump murdered Perkins Koi by overfeeding them in front of the Japanese emperor!
Posted by: andycanuck at May 31, 2019 02:23 PM (Dh1wo)
122
My boner. My boner. My lovely schadenboner.
Posted by: joncelli, totally not an asshole at May 31, 2019 02:23 PM (RD7QR)
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113 108 What are the chances that TFG gave secret, blanket pardons to Comey, Clapper, et al. for their roles in the coup attempt?
Even if he did, they would only apply to actions taken up to the time of the pardon which at latest would be January 2017. Anything after that he can't pardon; that is, the president cannot legally issue Carte Blache to cover all actions taken in the future. Only forgive actions taken in the past.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 02:21 PM (39g3+)
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I don't know. Obama was a constitutional scholar, and we have a living constitution.
Future pardons seem like something he would have tried.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:22 PM (9cans)
I'm going to allow this.
Even if he did, they would only apply to actions taken up to the time of the pardon which at latest would be January 2017. Anything after that he can't pardon; that is, the president cannot legally issue Carte Blache to cover all actions taken in the future. Only forgive actions taken in the past.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 02:21 PM (39g3+)
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I don't know. Obama was a constitutional scholar, and we have a living constitution.
Future pardons seem like something he would have tried.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:22 PM (9cans)
I'm going to allow this.
Posted by: Random Hawaiian Judge #7 at May 31, 2019 02:23 PM (Izzlo)
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110 As I've said before, I was initially leery of Barr when PDT appointed him -- worrying that he was likely a swamp creature -- but have been surprised beyond belief now and am thrilled I was wrong.
Posted by: ShainSShainS -- gender = non-sexagesimal; pronouns = lol/get/f***cked at May 31, 2019 02:22 PM (ypiFS)
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Here's the thing, I kind of think Barr is a swamp creature. He's a company man.
The thing is that Obama destroyed the company he loves, and Barr wants to return to that.
It's not that Barr isn't a monster of the deep state, it's that he's our Swamp Thing.
Posted by: ShainSShainS -- gender = non-sexagesimal; pronouns = lol/get/f***cked at May 31, 2019 02:22 PM (ypiFS)
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Here's the thing, I kind of think Barr is a swamp creature. He's a company man.
The thing is that Obama destroyed the company he loves, and Barr wants to return to that.
It's not that Barr isn't a monster of the deep state, it's that he's our Swamp Thing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:23 PM (9cans)
125
I remember hand-wringing and 'discussions' about whether Trump would be conservative vs the "known" Ted Cruz (last remaining primary opponent).
Trump won, I was for Cruz and held my breath.
Similar feelings on the previous (swampy) pick of Barr.
Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.
Trump won, I was for Cruz and held my breath.
Similar feelings on the previous (swampy) pick of Barr.
Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.
Posted by: jwb7605 at May 31, 2019 02:23 PM (uU9ws)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 31, 2019 02:24 PM (IfYaq)
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Everyone dies and I am not, you know, I don't believe in the Homeric idea that you know, immortality comes by, you know, having odes sung about you over the centuries, you know.
Posted by: LT Calley, 1968 at May 31, 2019 02:24 PM (DP0Mf)
128
* ugh, fixes nom *
Posted by: ShainS -- gender = non-sexagesimal; mtcmtmail= at May 31, 2019 02:24 PM (ypiFS)
129
Georgia should vote to repeal all tax breaks on Hollywood productions.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
>Well,... while it is a good idea, if Hollywood pulls out of Georgia (*chuckle*) they ain't getting any breaks already.
If anything, developing flimmakers that could challenge Hollywood would be hurt.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
>Well,... while it is a good idea, if Hollywood pulls out of Georgia (*chuckle*) they ain't getting any breaks already.
If anything, developing flimmakers that could challenge Hollywood would be hurt.
Posted by: Delaforce at May 31, 2019 02:24 PM (pJ5N0)
130
Midnight raids on Perkins Cole and esp Glenn Simpson and the FusionGPS pukes please. Then it'll be popcorn time.
Posted by: zeera with a new book, link in nic at May 31, 2019 02:21 PM (3Bzg7)
And frog-marching at 4am.
MAY I SUGGEST YOU USE YOUR NIGHTSTICK, OFFICER?
Midnight raids on Perkins Cole and esp Glenn Simpson and the FusionGPS pukes please. Then it'll be popcorn time.
Posted by: zeera with a new book, link in nic at May 31, 2019 02:21 PM (3Bzg7)
And frog-marching at 4am.
MAY I SUGGEST YOU USE YOUR NIGHTSTICK, OFFICER?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 31, 2019 02:24 PM (veoSD)
131
But man, they absolutely LOVE them some Iran.
I'm still fairly confident that one or more senior Obama admin types were paid by the mad mullahs.
I'm still fairly confident that one or more senior Obama admin types were paid by the mad mullahs.
Posted by: JEM at May 31, 2019 02:24 PM (8erNz)
132
I'd say its more of a statement on the current quality of the "First draft of history"
But perhaps the first draft has always been shit, and that's the value of a good historian
But perhaps the first draft has always been shit, and that's the value of a good historian
Posted by: milquetoast bourgeoisie mortgage-paying neighbor in flyover country at May 31, 2019 02:25 PM (TPgeI)
133
Per Mollie Hemingway, Rep Doug Collins thinks the FBI leaker who took gifts from the media was none other than Peter Strzok.
https://tinyurl.com/y6avxjsb
https://tinyurl.com/y6avxjsb
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 02:25 PM (/tuJf)
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Ace, thank you for all the effort. That's a monster job.
I appreciate your thoughtfulness and insight.
hitting the tip jar today.
I appreciate your thoughtfulness and insight.
hitting the tip jar today.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 31, 2019 02:25 PM (d7Ww2)
135
AG Barr said everybody dies. Has a nice ominous tone.
Posted by: john doe at May 31, 2019 02:25 PM (WX+x0)
136
132 I'd say its more of a statement on the current quality of the "First draft of history"
But perhaps the first draft has always been shit, and that's the value of a good historian
Posted by: milquetoast bourgeoisie mortgage-paying neighbor in flyover country at May 31, 2019 02:25 PM (TPgeI)
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Just wait til Howard Zinn gets his hands on it.
But perhaps the first draft has always been shit, and that's the value of a good historian
Posted by: milquetoast bourgeoisie mortgage-paying neighbor in flyover country at May 31, 2019 02:25 PM (TPgeI)
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Just wait til Howard Zinn gets his hands on it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:25 PM (9cans)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 31, 2019 02:26 PM (iXJM1)
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133 Per Mollie Hemingway, Rep Doug Collins thinks the FBI leaker who took gifts from the media was none other than Peter Strzok.
https://tinyurl.com/y6avxjsb
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 02:25 PM (/tuJf)
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Best and brightest.
https://tinyurl.com/y6avxjsb
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 02:25 PM (/tuJf)
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Best and brightest.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:26 PM (9cans)
139
But man, they absolutely LOVE them some Iran.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 31, 2019 02:23 PM (O/85K)
If I recall correctly, Valerie Jarrett was born there, and she's always been loyal to them. Plus they hate Jews even more than the Dem's do, so there's that. But as to the rest of them - maybe it's because Iran has been able to impose an ideological tyranny, which is exactly what the Dems want to impose here.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 31, 2019 02:23 PM (O/85K)
If I recall correctly, Valerie Jarrett was born there, and she's always been loyal to them. Plus they hate Jews even more than the Dem's do, so there's that. But as to the rest of them - maybe it's because Iran has been able to impose an ideological tyranny, which is exactly what the Dems want to impose here.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 31, 2019 02:26 PM (Kpl3J)
140
"state of Georgia will introduce a streaming video service allowing for free access to all content from firms that boycott the state. "
-- er, they can't actually DO that /event horizon
the Constitution seriously no-shit makes copyright and trademark a Federal case.
-- er, they can't actually DO that /event horizon
the Constitution seriously no-shit makes copyright and trademark a Federal case.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 31, 2019 02:26 PM (K8fD2)
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I hope Barr does his job and does it well, because that's all we need done. But he's only a human being and I won't get my hopes up.
I literally believe without hesitation that the people involved in this will kill to protect themselves, their power, and their money. If it comes down to them taking a fall and someone dying, they'll pull that trigger.
I literally believe without hesitation that the people involved in this will kill to protect themselves, their power, and their money. If it comes down to them taking a fall and someone dying, they'll pull that trigger.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 02:26 PM (39g3+)
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I'd save the glee. Barr is yet an unproven commodity until the first set of indictments. If they're ever docketed at all. This escaped the moron media as of course real news means nothing to them. The Dept. of Just-Us (horoWITZ) just released this. Not to worry - it's very brief... NOTE the conclusion after listing the crimes they admit, some of them anyway, were were committed by MCcabe. So, off to the empty vessel stuffed suit cuck Wray. What do you think will happen? https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2019/f190529.pdfMcCabe:
Posted by: Coyne at May 31, 2019 02:26 PM (nBnOp)
143
Did she ask about wire hangers?
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at May 31, 2019 02:27 PM (dKiJG)
144
133 Per Mollie Hemingway, Rep Doug Collins thinks the FBI leaker who took gifts from the media was none other than Peter Strzok.
https://tinyurl.com/y6avxjsb
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 02:25 PM (/tuJf)
And?
Whoever it was, they were not punished or even named.
https://tinyurl.com/y6avxjsb
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 02:25 PM (/tuJf)
And?
Whoever it was, they were not punished or even named.
Posted by: blaster at May 31, 2019 02:27 PM (9VeU0)
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82 What are the chances that TFG gave secret, blanket pardons to Comey, Clapper, et al. for their roles in the coup attempt?
Posted by: josephistan at May 31, 2019 02:17 PM (Izzlo)
_______
Double Secret Pardons?
Posted by: josephistan at May 31, 2019 02:17 PM (Izzlo)
_______
Double Secret Pardons?
Posted by: Eeyore at May 31, 2019 02:27 PM (VaN/j)
146
Hey imagine that !, AG Barr is for real
Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at May 31, 2019 02:27 PM (BqBId)
147
I wonder that the new "duck and cover" story is going to be now to distract the press:
Look! A squirrel!
Look! A squirrel!
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 31, 2019 02:27 PM (d7Ww2)
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Bloomberg "news" is jizzing itself over that Kraut bitch Merkel slamming Trump at Harvard. Of course the commies at Harvard applauded wildly for her
Bloomberg "news" is jizzing itself over that Kraut bitch Merkel slamming Trump at Harvard. Of course the commies at Harvard applauded wildly for her
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2019 02:27 PM (OLCnA)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 31, 2019 02:27 PM (+y/Ru)
150
Barr is going to be issuing reports, detailing the origins and growth of the Russian Collusion hoax, and that information is going to take the wind out of the sails of the USS Impeachment. It is not going to be a pleasant time to be a Democrat, a NeverTrumper, or a member of the MSM.
Trumpus Rex, GEOTUS, Bearer of the Golden Scalp Weasel.
Trumpus Rex, GEOTUS, Bearer of the Golden Scalp Weasel.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at May 31, 2019 02:27 PM (dQtSi)
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140 "state of Georgia will introduce a streaming video service allowing for free access to all content from firms that boycott the state. "
-- er, they can't actually DO that /event horizon
the Constitution seriously no-shit makes copyright and trademark a Federal case.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 31, 2019 02:26 PM (K8fD2)
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It went unreported, but the first major blow against the unholy copyright regime got struck early this year.
And it was done through inaction.
Disney and other major copyright holders refused to fight to extend copyright further than the current regime of Life+70.
Now, if we could find a way to, instead of keeping it there, begin to roll it back to Life+50, then we'll make Disney hurt.
-- er, they can't actually DO that /event horizon
the Constitution seriously no-shit makes copyright and trademark a Federal case.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 31, 2019 02:26 PM (K8fD2)
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It went unreported, but the first major blow against the unholy copyright regime got struck early this year.
And it was done through inaction.
Disney and other major copyright holders refused to fight to extend copyright further than the current regime of Life+70.
Now, if we could find a way to, instead of keeping it there, begin to roll it back to Life+50, then we'll make Disney hurt.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:27 PM (9cans)
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126 Fantastic post, Ace.
Barr is the right man in the right place at the right time.
I hope so. We definitely need someone with a shockproof unshakable bullshit detector in that role, and a willingness to act on what he learns.
Barr is the right man in the right place at the right time.
I hope so. We definitely need someone with a shockproof unshakable bullshit detector in that role, and a willingness to act on what he learns.
Posted by: JEM at May 31, 2019 02:27 PM (8erNz)
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115 ....We need a new direction and cannot find that within the relic that is the Democratic Party with its centuries of ties to Jim Crow and slavery.' Tensions within the party have been high since the unexpected loss to Donald Trump in November of last year."
-NYT DeBlasio
You mean that Dems were actually the party of Jim Crow laws and slavery? Liberals always say that the party's changed and it was really Republicans.
Posted by: Cheri at May 31, 2019 02:23 PM (oiNtH)
I hope DeBlasio's words go national. I can't stand the guy, but I guess a broken clock is right twice a day. The Democratic Party must be disbanded.
They'd probably replace it with something just as stupid, but whenever anyone talks about institutional racism, the Democratic Party has been - and is - that very institution.
It'd be a symbolic victory at the least, and I'm not adverse to one or two of those.
-NYT DeBlasio
You mean that Dems were actually the party of Jim Crow laws and slavery? Liberals always say that the party's changed and it was really Republicans.
Posted by: Cheri at May 31, 2019 02:23 PM (oiNtH)
I hope DeBlasio's words go national. I can't stand the guy, but I guess a broken clock is right twice a day. The Democratic Party must be disbanded.
They'd probably replace it with something just as stupid, but whenever anyone talks about institutional racism, the Democratic Party has been - and is - that very institution.
It'd be a symbolic victory at the least, and I'm not adverse to one or two of those.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at May 31, 2019 02:28 PM (J+mig)
154
Barr the Barbarian.
Only in a time of total madness would even a word he is saying be remotely controversial. Yes, we want to make sure that partisans of either party, who have access to the vast powers of our intelligence services, don't abuse those powers. And, oh, yeah, that appears to have absolutely happened given there was never a justification for this investigation based on the facts.
Only in a time of total madness would even a word he is saying be remotely controversial. Yes, we want to make sure that partisans of either party, who have access to the vast powers of our intelligence services, don't abuse those powers. And, oh, yeah, that appears to have absolutely happened given there was never a justification for this investigation based on the facts.
Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 31, 2019 02:28 PM (rgPG6)
155
Look! A squirrel!
The more conspiracy minded among us would say that a school shooting is on the horizon.
The more conspiracy minded among us would say that a school shooting is on the horizon.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 02:28 PM (39g3+)
156
136 - I said "good" historian, not a revisionist Marxist asshole.
Posted by: milquetoast bourgeoisie mortgage-paying neighbor in flyover country at May 31, 2019 02:28 PM (TPgeI)
157
56 One thing new jumped out at me - Huber has been a total bust. Nothing is coming from Huber, he's done. Durham is his replacement, and the one who is most likely to do anything.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 31, 2019 02:12 PM (Kpl3J)
I know there's a lot of info here but please, if you do nothing else, do a search on the page for 'Huber'. He wasn't doing 'nothing'!
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 31, 2019 02:12 PM (Kpl3J)
I know there's a lot of info here but please, if you do nothing else, do a search on the page for 'Huber'. He wasn't doing 'nothing'!
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 02:28 PM (cF8AT)
158
How did they find this guy within the Deep State and what was he doing? Barr is an additional reason to re-elect Trump.
Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2019 02:28 PM (NAs56)
159
Just wait til Howard Zinn gets his hands on it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:25 PM (9cans)
Fortunately, and not before time, that cocksucker is dead.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:25 PM (9cans)
Fortunately, and not before time, that cocksucker is dead.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2019 02:28 PM (qgh3L)
160
Why does the SJW Left love Iran so much?
It's more than just "because Muslims", because they hate the KSA, and it's not a Sunni/Shia thing either, because they don't complain about other Sunni-majority nations either.
But man, they absolutely LOVE them some Iran.
Posted by: Hikaru
Because USA and OrangeManBad.
It's more than just "because Muslims", because they hate the KSA, and it's not a Sunni/Shia thing either, because they don't complain about other Sunni-majority nations either.
But man, they absolutely LOVE them some Iran.
Posted by: Hikaru
Because USA and OrangeManBad.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 31, 2019 02:28 PM (eg609)
161
153 I hope DeBlasio's words go national. I can't stand the guy, but I guess a broken clock is right twice a day. The Democratic Party must be disbanded.
They'd probably replace it with something just as stupid, but whenever anyone talks about institutional racism, the Democratic Party has been - and is - that very institution.
It'd be a symbolic victory at the least, and I'm not adverse to one or two of those.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at May 31, 2019 02:28 PM (J+mig)
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Future news. Not actual news. See #98.
They'd probably replace it with something just as stupid, but whenever anyone talks about institutional racism, the Democratic Party has been - and is - that very institution.
It'd be a symbolic victory at the least, and I'm not adverse to one or two of those.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at May 31, 2019 02:28 PM (J+mig)
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Future news. Not actual news. See #98.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:29 PM (9cans)
162
133 Per Mollie Hemingway, Rep Doug Collins thinks the FBI leaker who took gifts from the media was none other than Peter Strzok.
https://tinyurl.com/y6avxjsb
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 02:25 PM (/tuJf)
Wonder if he took Page or his wife to the sporting event?
https://tinyurl.com/y6avxjsb
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 02:25 PM (/tuJf)
Wonder if he took Page or his wife to the sporting event?
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 02:29 PM (cF8AT)
163
So Comey, Brennan and Clapper walk into a Barr..
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 31, 2019 02:29 PM (8AaUb)
164
Bloomberg "news" is jizzing itself over that Kraut bitch Merkel slamming Trump at Harvard. Of course the commies at Harvard applauded wildly for her
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Well, she's certainly led Germany, the EU and Europe generally into their place in the sun.
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Well, she's certainly led Germany, the EU and Europe generally into their place in the sun.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 31, 2019 02:29 PM (+y/Ru)
165
Past 100, so going OT.
Why does the SJW Left love Iran so much?
It's more than just "because Muslims", because they hate the KSA, and it's not a Sunni/Shia thing either, because they don't complain about other Sunni-majority nations either.
But man, they absolutely LOVE them some Iran.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 31, 2019 02:23 PM (O/85K)
Because the Iranians hate Western Civilization almost as much as the SJWs do.
Almost.
Past 100, so going OT.
Why does the SJW Left love Iran so much?
It's more than just "because Muslims", because they hate the KSA, and it's not a Sunni/Shia thing either, because they don't complain about other Sunni-majority nations either.
But man, they absolutely LOVE them some Iran.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 31, 2019 02:23 PM (O/85K)
Because the Iranians hate Western Civilization almost as much as the SJWs do.
Almost.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 31, 2019 02:29 PM (veoSD)
166
Every man dies, Jan. Not every man truly lives.
Posted by: William Barraveheart at May 31, 2019 02:29 PM (NWiLs)
167
156 136 - I said "good" historian, not a revisionist Marxist asshole.
Posted by: milquetoast bourgeoisie mortgage-paying neighbor in flyover country at May 31, 2019 02:28 PM (TPgeI)
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"He's the only one who gets it right!"
-Oliver Stone
Posted by: milquetoast bourgeoisie mortgage-paying neighbor in flyover country at May 31, 2019 02:28 PM (TPgeI)
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"He's the only one who gets it right!"
-Oliver Stone
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:29 PM (9cans)
168
know there's a lot of info here but please, if you do nothing else, do a search on the page for 'Huber'. He wasn't doing 'nothing'!
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 02:28 PM (cF8AT)
He was doing something and then it changed to doing nothing.
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 02:28 PM (cF8AT)
He was doing something and then it changed to doing nothing.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 31, 2019 02:29 PM (iXJM1)
169
WILLIAM BARR: You know, it's part of the craziness of the modern day that if a president uses a word, then all of a sudden it becomes off bounds. It's a perfectly good English word, I will continue to use it.
....
And as I say, that's antithetical to the way the department runs and any attorney general in this period is going to end up losing a lot of political capital and I realize that and that is one of the reasons that I ultimately was persuaded that I should take it on because I think at my stage in life it really doesn't make any difference.
Just excellent.
I love the man. Tells it like it is.
He's kind of like Trump in that he's basically a honey badger, just in a calm package without the bluster.
....
And as I say, that's antithetical to the way the department runs and any attorney general in this period is going to end up losing a lot of political capital and I realize that and that is one of the reasons that I ultimately was persuaded that I should take it on because I think at my stage in life it really doesn't make any difference.
Just excellent.
I love the man. Tells it like it is.
He's kind of like Trump in that he's basically a honey badger, just in a calm package without the bluster.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 31, 2019 02:29 PM (9hauA)
170
Fantastic work, ace. I'm listening to the interview right now and then I'm going to go back and read your highlights.
Fantastic work, ace. I'm listening to the interview right now and then I'm going to go back and read your highlights.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 31, 2019 02:29 PM (aNZNU)
171
>>Why does the SJW Left love Iran so much?
They demonstrated over and over that they could kill Americans and get away with it.
That's why.
It's jealousy.
They demonstrated over and over that they could kill Americans and get away with it.
That's why.
It's jealousy.
Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2019 02:29 PM (qYfHh)
172
Life + youngest child's life should be enough for a copyright. Lacking a child, Life +50 is more than enough.That could end up being longer, or shorter than 50 years.
As a creator and publisher, I think copyright laws have gone berserk in the US and need to be dialed back significantly.
As a creator and publisher, I think copyright laws have gone berserk in the US and need to be dialed back significantly.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 02:30 PM (39g3+)
173
159 Just wait til Howard Zinn gets his hands on it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:25 PM (9cans)
Fortunately, and not before time, that cocksucker is dead.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2019 02:28 PM (qgh3L)
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Just like Lenin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUHAqO_QEA0
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:25 PM (9cans)
Fortunately, and not before time, that cocksucker is dead.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2019 02:28 PM (qgh3L)
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Just like Lenin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUHAqO_QEA0
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:30 PM (9cans)
174
115 ....We need a new direction and cannot find that within the relic that is the Democratic Party with its centuries of ties to Jim Crow and slavery.' Tensions within the party have been high since the unexpected loss to Donald Trump in November of last year."
-NYT DeBlasio
Wow. I sense a disturbance in The Force.
But he did neglect to mention NYC's role as the league leader in lynchings of blacks.
-NYT DeBlasio
Wow. I sense a disturbance in The Force.
But he did neglect to mention NYC's role as the league leader in lynchings of blacks.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2019 02:30 PM (qgh3L)
175
Seems like Jan Crawford did a good job with the interview. Not very common these days.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 31, 2019 02:30 PM (9hauA)
176
139>>>
I don't just mean politicians, though.
The "woke" SJW millennial types seem to love Iran for some reason.
I don't just mean politicians, though.
The "woke" SJW millennial types seem to love Iran for some reason.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 31, 2019 02:30 PM (O/85K)
177
>>I know there's a lot of info here but please, if you do nothing else, do a search on the page for 'Huber'. He wasn't doing 'nothing'!
One more time.
>>Sessions had also asked Huber in 2017 to look into issues related to the sale of Uranium One and allegations that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had been improperly involved in the process, as well as broader claims of corruption at the Clinton Foundation. Barr seemed to suggest that what evidence Huber found, if any, may soon be revealed.
>>"The other issues [Huber has] been working on relate to Hillary Clinton" are "winding down and hopefully we'll be in a position to bring those to fruition," Barr said.
I'm old enough to remember when people thought looking into the corruption regarding Uranium One and the Clinton Foundation was a thing.
And Robert Mueller was the Director of the FBI when the Uranium One deal went down.
One more time.
>>Sessions had also asked Huber in 2017 to look into issues related to the sale of Uranium One and allegations that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had been improperly involved in the process, as well as broader claims of corruption at the Clinton Foundation. Barr seemed to suggest that what evidence Huber found, if any, may soon be revealed.
>>"The other issues [Huber has] been working on relate to Hillary Clinton" are "winding down and hopefully we'll be in a position to bring those to fruition," Barr said.
I'm old enough to remember when people thought looking into the corruption regarding Uranium One and the Clinton Foundation was a thing.
And Robert Mueller was the Director of the FBI when the Uranium One deal went down.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 02:30 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 02:30 PM (39g3+)
179
Future news. Not actual news. See #98.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:29 PM (9cans)
So I see. I like your future.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:29 PM (9cans)
So I see. I like your future.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at May 31, 2019 02:31 PM (J+mig)
180
The more conspiracy minded among us would say that a school shooting is on the horizon.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
They'll have to wait three months. School's out.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
They'll have to wait three months. School's out.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 31, 2019 02:31 PM (eg609)
181
172 Life + youngest child's life should be enough for a copyright. Lacking a child, Life +50 is more than enough.That could end up being longer, or shorter than 50 years.
As a creator and publisher, I think copyright laws have gone berserk in the US and need to be dialed back significantly.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 02:30 PM (39g3+)
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I'd love 28 years with an optional extra 28 that must be applied for.
As a creator and publisher, I think copyright laws have gone berserk in the US and need to be dialed back significantly.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 02:30 PM (39g3+)
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I'd love 28 years with an optional extra 28 that must be applied for.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:31 PM (9cans)
182
I want to see Barr use a bar to bar people from breaking the law.
Then go to a bar by the end of the day.
Then go to a bar by the end of the day.
Posted by: Delaforce at May 31, 2019 02:31 PM (pJ5N0)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 31, 2019 02:31 PM (Rarvo)
184
Look! A squirrel!
The more conspiracy minded among us would say that a school shooting is on the horizon.
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Hmm,
Since school will be out for most any day now, perhaps that explains some of the delays we've been complaining about . . .
The more conspiracy minded among us would say that a school shooting is on the horizon.
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Hmm,
Since school will be out for most any day now, perhaps that explains some of the delays we've been complaining about . . .
Posted by: simplemind at May 31, 2019 02:31 PM (eweXN)
185
That was Barr-baric!
Posted by: Insomniac at May 31, 2019 02:31 PM (NWiLs)
186
He was doing something and then it changed to doing nothing.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 31, 2019 02:29 PM (iXJM1)
"The other issues he's [Huber] been working on relate to Hillary Clinton. Those are winding down and hopefully we'll be in a position to bring those to fruition."
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 31, 2019 02:29 PM (iXJM1)
"The other issues he's [Huber] been working on relate to Hillary Clinton. Those are winding down and hopefully we'll be in a position to bring those to fruition."
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 02:32 PM (cF8AT)
187
I LOVE THIS BARR!
Posted by: Toby Keith at May 31, 2019 02:32 PM (qYfHh)
188
Now, if we could find a way to, instead of keeping it there, begin to roll it back to Life+50, then we'll make Disney hurt.
Oh, far less than that.
If you're able to find the Steyn piece on Solomon Linda, Wimoweh, and 'The Lion Sleeps Tonight' it's a great read. I can't turn it up with a quick Bing.
Oh, far less than that.
If you're able to find the Steyn piece on Solomon Linda, Wimoweh, and 'The Lion Sleeps Tonight' it's a great read. I can't turn it up with a quick Bing.
Posted by: JEM at May 31, 2019 02:32 PM (8erNz)
189
they will need a distraction
I guess would have to be a big 4th of July deal or I guess I'd avoid Firefly or large music festivals like that
I guess would have to be a big 4th of July deal or I guess I'd avoid Firefly or large music festivals like that
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 31, 2019 02:33 PM (Rarvo)
190
118 Past 100, so going OT.
Why does the SJW Left love Iran so much?
It's more than just "because Muslims", because they hate the KSA, and it's not a Sunni/Shia thing either, because they don't complain about other Sunni-majority nations either.
But man, they absolutely LOVE them some Iran.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 31, 2019 02:23 PM (O/85K)
They harmed the United States. By definition that makes them admirable to the left.
Why does the SJW Left love Iran so much?
It's more than just "because Muslims", because they hate the KSA, and it's not a Sunni/Shia thing either, because they don't complain about other Sunni-majority nations either.
But man, they absolutely LOVE them some Iran.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 31, 2019 02:23 PM (O/85K)
They harmed the United States. By definition that makes them admirable to the left.
Posted by: joncelli, totally not an asshole at May 31, 2019 02:33 PM (RD7QR)
191
They'll have to wait three months. School's out.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 31, 2019 02:31 PM (eg609)
Summer school is a thing, especially for those of us that had terrible math teachers and needed more time to unfuck the mess we were taught.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 31, 2019 02:31 PM (eg609)
Summer school is a thing, especially for those of us that had terrible math teachers and needed more time to unfuck the mess we were taught.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at May 31, 2019 02:33 PM (J+mig)
192
Did anyone else reading this arch an eyebrow when Barr went "there"---mentioning Obama and how the reaction would be totally different if he was spied on for --I'm paraphrasing--for possibly being a Manchurian candidate for ISLAM?
Posted by: JoeF. at May 31, 2019 02:33 PM (NFEMn)
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Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 02:30 PM (/tuJf)
I'm beginning to think we're the only two that can see that passage....
I'm beginning to think we're the only two that can see that passage....
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 02:34 PM (cF8AT)
194
".... and any attorney general in this period is going to end up losing a lot of capital and I realize that and that is one of the reasons that I ultimately was persuaded that I should take it on on because I think at this stage in my life it really doesn't make any difference."
HONEY BADGER DON'T CARE!
HONEY BADGER DON'T CARE!
Posted by: redridinghood at May 31, 2019 02:34 PM (RBOtF)
195
Clapper?
Why yes, I've got one right over here. I use it to turn off the lamps when I want to take a nap.
I think I'm on my fourth one now. They sure do seem to wear out quickly.
Why yes, I've got one right over here. I use it to turn off the lamps when I want to take a nap.
I think I'm on my fourth one now. They sure do seem to wear out quickly.
Posted by: The Late Jeff Sessions at May 31, 2019 02:34 PM (9vQJW)
196
188 Now, if we could find a way to, instead of keeping it there, begin to roll it back to Life+50, then we'll make Disney hurt.
Oh, far less than that.
If you're able to find the Steyn piece on Solomon Linda, Wimoweh, and 'The Lion Sleeps Tonight' it's a great read. I can't turn it up with a quick Bing.
Posted by: JEM at May 31, 2019 02:32 PM (8erNz)
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I'm just thinking incrementally.
Why are patents treated less well than copyrights?
Bringing them in line is not a bad goal, but not by extending patents.
Oh, far less than that.
If you're able to find the Steyn piece on Solomon Linda, Wimoweh, and 'The Lion Sleeps Tonight' it's a great read. I can't turn it up with a quick Bing.
Posted by: JEM at May 31, 2019 02:32 PM (8erNz)
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I'm just thinking incrementally.
Why are patents treated less well than copyrights?
Bringing them in line is not a bad goal, but not by extending patents.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:35 PM (9cans)
197
I suspect that Barr doesn't agree completely with the excuses Huber made (Huber is an Obama appointee I believe) about him not doing anything and waiting for the IG. So he threw him a bone and then showed what he thought by naming a different guy to examine all the stuff.
Maybe Huber wasn't instructed correctly (Sezzzzionz?) or he wasn't looking at the stuff he should've been looking at for whatever reason and Barr didn't trust him to carry out Barr's orders.
So now maybe we'll at least get a coverup that makes sense and hangs together as if it's true.
Who knows maybe we'll even get the truth.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA TRUTH!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*wipes tears from eyes and cheek*
Maybe Huber wasn't instructed correctly (Sezzzzionz?) or he wasn't looking at the stuff he should've been looking at for whatever reason and Barr didn't trust him to carry out Barr's orders.
So now maybe we'll at least get a coverup that makes sense and hangs together as if it's true.
Who knows maybe we'll even get the truth.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA TRUTH!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*wipes tears from eyes and cheek*
Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at May 31, 2019 02:35 PM (xq6Dg)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2019 02:35 PM (aKsyK)
199
I'd save the glee. Barr is yet an unproven commodity until the first set of indictments. If they're ever docketed at all.
He could fart all day and cough up a hairball.
Still more than Rumpelstiltskin ever did.
He could fart all day and cough up a hairball.
Still more than Rumpelstiltskin ever did.
Posted by: Roland THTG at May 31, 2019 02:35 PM (88+cf)
Posted by: RUSH at May 31, 2019 02:35 PM (qYfHh)
201
Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Yates, Strzk, Page, and McCabe walk into a Barr......
KLAAAANNNNNNGGG!!!!!
KLAAAANNNNNNGGG!!!!!
Posted by: JoeF. at May 31, 2019 02:35 PM (NFEMn)
202
They harmed the United States. By definition that makes them admirable to the left.
Posted by: joncelli, totally not an asshole at May 31, 2019 02:33 PM (RD7QR)
That's the long and short of it. They hate KSA because KSA is, on the balance, somewhat useful to have as a US ally and not actively backstabbing us.
They love the rest of the Islamic world because it hates us as much as they do.
Posted by: joncelli, totally not an asshole at May 31, 2019 02:33 PM (RD7QR)
That's the long and short of it. They hate KSA because KSA is, on the balance, somewhat useful to have as a US ally and not actively backstabbing us.
They love the rest of the Islamic world because it hates us as much as they do.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at May 31, 2019 02:35 PM (J+mig)
203
>>Why does the SJW Left love Iran so much?
It's more than just "because Muslims", because they hate the KSA, and it's not a Sunni/Shia thing either, because they don't complain about other Sunni-majority nations either.
But man, they absolutely LOVE them some Iran.
- - - -
Weird, isn't it? My guess it's a combo of:
a. Death to America
b. Wipe Israel off the map
c. Iran pays well (connected DC'ers
d. They want Iran to be the stabilizing super power in the ME
??
It's more than just "because Muslims", because they hate the KSA, and it's not a Sunni/Shia thing either, because they don't complain about other Sunni-majority nations either.
But man, they absolutely LOVE them some Iran.
- - - -
Weird, isn't it? My guess it's a combo of:
a. Death to America
b. Wipe Israel off the map
c. Iran pays well (connected DC'ers
d. They want Iran to be the stabilizing super power in the ME
??
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2019 02:36 PM (W+vEI)
204
I see Alls Well That Swallows Well is holding steady at 0.0%
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 31, 2019 02:36 PM (+y/Ru)
205
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 02:32 PM (cF8AT)
Yes I understand that but what we've been discussing and told to wait that it's coming was for was the FISA investigation. Frankly I don't care which 'investigator' gets to the bottom of it. I just want to see the bottom.
Yes I understand that but what we've been discussing and told to wait that it's coming was for was the FISA investigation. Frankly I don't care which 'investigator' gets to the bottom of it. I just want to see the bottom.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 31, 2019 02:36 PM (iXJM1)
206
202 They harmed the United States. By definition that makes them admirable to the left.
Posted by: joncelli, totally not an asshole at May 31, 2019 02:33 PM (RD7QR)
That's the long and short of it. They hate KSA because KSA is, on the balance, somewhat useful to have as a US ally and not actively backstabbing us.
They love the rest of the Islamic world because it hates us as much as they do.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at May 31, 2019 02:35 PM (J+mig)
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Also, they probably don't understand Islam very well and reject anything that demonstrates it as anti-woman or whatever as racist propaganda.
Posted by: joncelli, totally not an asshole at May 31, 2019 02:33 PM (RD7QR)
That's the long and short of it. They hate KSA because KSA is, on the balance, somewhat useful to have as a US ally and not actively backstabbing us.
They love the rest of the Islamic world because it hates us as much as they do.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at May 31, 2019 02:35 PM (J+mig)
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Also, they probably don't understand Islam very well and reject anything that demonstrates it as anti-woman or whatever as racist propaganda.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:36 PM (9cans)
207
196 188 Now, if we could find a way to, instead of keeping it there, begin to roll it back to Life+50, then we'll make Disney hurt.
Oh, far less than that.
If you're able to find the Steyn piece on Solomon Linda, Wimoweh, and 'The Lion Sleeps Tonight' it's a great read. I can't turn it up with a quick Bing.
Posted by: JEM at May 31, 2019 02:32 PM (8erNz)
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I'm just thinking incrementally.
Why are patents treated less well than copyrights?
Bringing them in line is not a bad goal, but not by extending patents.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:35 PM (9cans)
That's an interesting question, especially considering that patents are a real bitch to get.
Oh, far less than that.
If you're able to find the Steyn piece on Solomon Linda, Wimoweh, and 'The Lion Sleeps Tonight' it's a great read. I can't turn it up with a quick Bing.
Posted by: JEM at May 31, 2019 02:32 PM (8erNz)
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I'm just thinking incrementally.
Why are patents treated less well than copyrights?
Bringing them in line is not a bad goal, but not by extending patents.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:35 PM (9cans)
That's an interesting question, especially considering that patents are a real bitch to get.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 31, 2019 02:36 PM (NWiLs)
208
Anyway, before I continue reading under the fold, I have to say I love Barr. He is very direct and doesn't give a rat's patootie. He's also very calm and not moved by the hysterics of the media and Dems (BIRM).
I saw a snippet of the interview and I'll definitely listen to the entire thing once I free myself from the shackles of work for the day.
Posted by: chique d'afrique
Which is why the DeepSnakes, NeverTurnipers, and the media hate him; they all live in obscurantist and deceptive language. It's their water and bread.
Plain spoken and direct people are anathema to DC.
I saw a snippet of the interview and I'll definitely listen to the entire thing once I free myself from the shackles of work for the day.
Posted by: chique d'afrique
Which is why the DeepSnakes, NeverTurnipers, and the media hate him; they all live in obscurantist and deceptive language. It's their water and bread.
Plain spoken and direct people are anathema to DC.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 31, 2019 02:37 PM (cXV7n)
209
Who is this Jan Crawford? She seems very well-briefed, did not contradict him, and kept up with the details and flow of things. I can't believe CBS allowed him this much time.
Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2019 02:37 PM (C78No)
210
>>I'm beginning to think we're the only two that can see that passage....
Seems like a pretty big deal to me.
Seems like a pretty big deal to me.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 02:37 PM (/tuJf)
211
210 >>I'm beginning to think we're the only two that can see that passage....
Seems like a pretty big deal to me.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 02:37 PM (/tuJf)
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I'm sorry. Some of us have our hair on fire. Priorities.
Seems like a pretty big deal to me.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 02:37 PM (/tuJf)
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I'm sorry. Some of us have our hair on fire. Priorities.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:37 PM (9cans)
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Posted by: RUSH at May 31, 2019 02:35 PM (qYfHh)
Man who walk through turnstile sideways is going to Bangkok.
Man who walk through turnstile sideways is going to Bangkok.
Posted by: Lao Tze at May 31, 2019 02:37 PM (J+mig)
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What's new to me in this interview is the fact that Mueller just defied Barr's order to identify 6(e) grand jury testimony in the report. Unbelievable.
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 02:37 PM (cF8AT)
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Backing Jeff Sessions for AG might well be my greatest embarrassment.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2019 02:38 PM (4RuLv)
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>>I'm beginning to think we're the only two that can see that passage....
>Seems like a pretty big deal to me.
I read that word.
'Fruition'.
...and. It moved.
>Seems like a pretty big deal to me.
I read that word.
'Fruition'.
...and. It moved.
Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2019 02:38 PM (qYfHh)
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their higher good cause has destroyed trust of their agencies.
we can say Timothy McVeigh thought He had a higher good, doesn't mean it is so.
we can say Timothy McVeigh thought He had a higher good, doesn't mean it is so.
Posted by: willow at May 31, 2019 02:38 PM (r/xAU)
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I think that for a lot of leftists, Islam functions as a sort of proxy religion, it gives them the trapings of faith (special clothes, that eerie call to worship, kneeling, special pilgrimage) without any of the nasty stuff like obeying God and changing. So they can sort of cling to it and get the mystical, transcendent feeling their soul longs for, but without actually buying into any of it. They see it in a sort of Disney sense of exotic and spiritual without any hard faith or commitment.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 02:38 PM (39g3+)
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215 >>I'm beginning to think we're the only two that can see that passage....
>Seems like a pretty big deal to me.
I read that word.
'Fruition'.
...and. It moved.
Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2019 02:38 PM (qYfHh)
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Were you getting a massage from a man?
>Seems like a pretty big deal to me.
I read that word.
'Fruition'.
...and. It moved.
Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2019 02:38 PM (qYfHh)
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Were you getting a massage from a man?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:39 PM (9cans)
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Which is why the DeepSnakes, NeverTurnipers, and the media hate him; they all live in obscurantist and deceptive language. It's their water and bread.
Plain spoken and direct people are anathema to DC.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 31, 2019 02:37 PM (cXV7n)
They absolurely hate direct people. They want drama and shenanigans. You can't tell it straight and make their corruption sound good.
Plain spoken and direct people are anathema to DC.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 31, 2019 02:37 PM (cXV7n)
They absolurely hate direct people. They want drama and shenanigans. You can't tell it straight and make their corruption sound good.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at May 31, 2019 02:39 PM (J+mig)
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Capitalists shocked again Dow falls below 25000
Posted by: Kurt at May 31, 2019 02:39 PM (kxxjc)
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What's new to me in this interview is the fact that Mueller just defied Barr's order to identify 6(e) grand jury testimony in the report. Unbelievable.
THANK YOU!
me too!
that's DEFINITELY obstruction of justice! what the heck!
THANK YOU!
me too!
that's DEFINITELY obstruction of justice! what the heck!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 31, 2019 02:39 PM (Rarvo)
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>>I'm old enough to remember when people thought looking into the corruption regarding Uranium One and the Clinton Foundation was a thing.
And Robert Mueller was the Director of the FBI when the Uranium One deal went down.
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Didn't 10 or so Obama administration people have to sign off on that deal, including Hillary as Sos and also Mueller?
There were a lot of people involved in that, not just Hillary. But as usual, she was the one who found a way to monetize the f#@$ out of it.
And Robert Mueller was the Director of the FBI when the Uranium One deal went down.
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Didn't 10 or so Obama administration people have to sign off on that deal, including Hillary as Sos and also Mueller?
There were a lot of people involved in that, not just Hillary. But as usual, she was the one who found a way to monetize the f#@$ out of it.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2019 02:39 PM (W+vEI)
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Who is this Jan Crawford? She seems very well-briefed, did not contradict him, and kept up with the details and flow of things.
Yeah she was very professional. That's how interviews are supposed to go.
Yeah she was very professional. That's how interviews are supposed to go.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 02:40 PM (39g3+)
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I read that word.
'Fruition'.
...and. It moved.
Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2019 02:38 PM (qYfHh)
It was the Mango fruit....
'Fruition'.
...and. It moved.
Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2019 02:38 PM (qYfHh)
It was the Mango fruit....
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 02:40 PM (cF8AT)
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What's new to me in this interview is the fact that
Mueller just defied Barr's order to identify 6(e) grand jury testimony
in the report. Unbelievable.
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 02:37 PM (cF8AT)
Mueller's staff wanted to slow down the release of the redacted report so they could get their spin set and going, to salvage as much as they could from the situation. Barr cut them off with his summary coming out fast.
I suspect Andrew Weissman may be exploring new employment opportunities soon.
Mueller just defied Barr's order to identify 6(e) grand jury testimony
in the report. Unbelievable.
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 02:37 PM (cF8AT)
Mueller's staff wanted to slow down the release of the redacted report so they could get their spin set and going, to salvage as much as they could from the situation. Barr cut them off with his summary coming out fast.
I suspect Andrew Weissman may be exploring new employment opportunities soon.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at May 31, 2019 02:40 PM (dQtSi)
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>>I read that word.
>>'Fruition'.
>>...and. It moved.
I read the words Uranium One and imagined Mueller's heart skipping a beat.
>>'Fruition'.
>>...and. It moved.
I read the words Uranium One and imagined Mueller's heart skipping a beat.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 02:40 PM (/tuJf)
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I think that for a lot of leftists, Islam functions as a sort of proxy religion, it gives them the trapings of faith (special clothes, that eerie call to worship, kneeling, special pilgrimage) without any of the nasty stuff like obeying God and changing. So they can sort of cling to it and get the mystical, transcendent feeling their soul longs for, but without actually buying into any of it. They see it in a sort of Disney sense of exotic and spiritual without any hard faith or commitment.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 02:38 PM (39g3+)
Maybe, but I think it's just that they like falafell and humuus and other exotic food.....and the fact that, like Islam, they see normal patriotic Americans as infidels....
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 02:38 PM (39g3+)
Maybe, but I think it's just that they like falafell and humuus and other exotic food.....and the fact that, like Islam, they see normal patriotic Americans as infidels....
Posted by: JoeF. at May 31, 2019 02:40 PM (NFEMn)
Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2019 02:40 PM (qYfHh)
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225 Mueller's staff wanted to slow down the release of the redacted report so they could get their spin set and going, to salvage as much as they could from the situation. Barr cut them off with his summary coming out fast.
I suspect Andrew Weissman may be exploring new employment opportunities soon.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at May 31, 2019 02:40 PM (dQtSi)
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Probably trying to get the next Democrat president so he can have a safe job in government again.
I suspect Andrew Weissman may be exploring new employment opportunities soon.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at May 31, 2019 02:40 PM (dQtSi)
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Probably trying to get the next Democrat president so he can have a safe job in government again.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:41 PM (9cans)
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no one should get a pass because of higher good clause, we'd all turn into vigilantes. which is why we have some laws in the first place.
higher good or not (in their minds) does not mean one can take over our elections and our process, The reason why we stay calm in general is we know we only have to wait for anew election to b=vote our disliked politician out.
They've ruined that.
Only punishment of all those involves will help .
higher good or not (in their minds) does not mean one can take over our elections and our process, The reason why we stay calm in general is we know we only have to wait for anew election to b=vote our disliked politician out.
They've ruined that.
Only punishment of all those involves will help .
Posted by: willow at May 31, 2019 02:41 PM (r/xAU)
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Also, they probably don't understand Islam very well and reject anything that demonstrates it as anti-woman or whatever as racist propaganda.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:36 PM (9cans)
Yep. As usual, they know nothing and are absolutely certain about what they don't know, because some "opinionmaker" they put absolute trust in told them so.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:36 PM (9cans)
Yep. As usual, they know nothing and are absolutely certain about what they don't know, because some "opinionmaker" they put absolute trust in told them so.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at May 31, 2019 02:41 PM (J+mig)
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Bloomberg "news" is jizzing itself over that Kraut bitch Merkel slamming Trump at Harvard. Of course the commies at Harvard applauded wildly for her
Pull the entire US military apparatus out of Germany. Immediately. Yesterday.
Couldn't care less if Putin came down Scandinavia and rolled tanks from the north to Switzerland, then banked left and overran Froggie Land.
Fuck. Them. All.
Pull the entire US military apparatus out of Germany. Immediately. Yesterday.
Couldn't care less if Putin came down Scandinavia and rolled tanks from the north to Switzerland, then banked left and overran Froggie Land.
Fuck. Them. All.
Posted by: DocJ at May 31, 2019 02:41 PM (NYS7S)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2019 02:41 PM (4RuLv)
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There were a lot of people involved in that, not
just Hillary. But as usual, she was the one who found a way to monetize
the f#@$ out of it.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2019 02:39 PM (W+vEI)
I'm sure they all got their fair cut of the deal.
just Hillary. But as usual, she was the one who found a way to monetize
the f#@$ out of it.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2019 02:39 PM (W+vEI)
I'm sure they all got their fair cut of the deal.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at May 31, 2019 02:41 PM (dQtSi)
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2019 02:41 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: Kant at May 31, 2019 02:42 PM (qYfHh)
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William Barr ES MUY MACHO......
Posted by: kraken at May 31, 2019 02:42 PM (DpEis)
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>>Didn't 10 or so Obama administration people have to sign off on that deal, including Hillary as Sos and also Mueller?
Yea, it was a large group and just looking at it logically there is no way it should have been approved.
Yea, it was a large group and just looking at it logically there is no way it should have been approved.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 02:42 PM (/tuJf)
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>>Who is this Jan Crawford? S
NYT's SCOTUS reporter, IIRC.
She replaces Linda Greenhouse.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2019 02:41 PM (W+vEI)
Linda was full of gasses....
NYT's SCOTUS reporter, IIRC.
She replaces Linda Greenhouse.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2019 02:41 PM (W+vEI)
Linda was full of gasses....
Posted by: JoeF. at May 31, 2019 02:42 PM (NFEMn)
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He says "you know" more than my boys did as teenagers but other than that it's pitch perfect.
I really hope this means what I think it means:
The other issues he's been working on relate to Hillary Clinton. Those are winding down and hopefully we'll be in a position to bring those to fruition.
I really hope this means what I think it means:
The other issues he's been working on relate to Hillary Clinton. Those are winding down and hopefully we'll be in a position to bring those to fruition.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 31, 2019 02:42 PM (fuK7c)
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"WILLIAM BARR: Well it might be legit under certain circumstances but a lot of that has to do with how good the evidence was at that point. And you know Mueller has spent two and half years and the fact is there is no evidence of a conspiracy. So it was bogus, this whole idea that the Trump was in cahoots with the Russians is bogus."
This is something that has not gotten any attention, and is DAMNING to the authors of the FISA warrant application. The evidence used to obtain a warrant to spy on Americans is supposed to be beyond reproach, and if it is counterbalance by exculpatory evidence, that is supposed to be disclosed. The evidence was shown to be CRAP, and the exculpatory evidence was either not disclosed or was trivialized.
Put another way, if my evidence is actually verified with (say) a 90% confidence level, and I present four pieces of evidence, what are the chances that ALL FOUR pieces of evidence end up to be false?
The chances are 1 X 10 exp-4, or 1 in 10,000!!
This is completely hypothetical, but I believe it is fair on the surface. Thus basic math says the investigators (and the judges) are either incredibly incompetent or incredibly corrupt and brazen crooks. My advice is to take door "B".
This is something that has not gotten any attention, and is DAMNING to the authors of the FISA warrant application. The evidence used to obtain a warrant to spy on Americans is supposed to be beyond reproach, and if it is counterbalance by exculpatory evidence, that is supposed to be disclosed. The evidence was shown to be CRAP, and the exculpatory evidence was either not disclosed or was trivialized.
Put another way, if my evidence is actually verified with (say) a 90% confidence level, and I present four pieces of evidence, what are the chances that ALL FOUR pieces of evidence end up to be false?
The chances are 1 X 10 exp-4, or 1 in 10,000!!
This is completely hypothetical, but I believe it is fair on the surface. Thus basic math says the investigators (and the judges) are either incredibly incompetent or incredibly corrupt and brazen crooks. My advice is to take door "B".
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 31, 2019 02:42 PM (CC97/)
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their higher good cause has destroyed trust of their agencies.
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The greater good is also what destroyed the Jews of Europe. Utopian totalitarians will get you every time.
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The greater good is also what destroyed the Jews of Europe. Utopian totalitarians will get you every time.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 31, 2019 02:43 PM (+y/Ru)
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What's new to me in this interview is the fact that Mueller just defied Barr's order to identify 6(e) grand jury testimony in the report. Unbelievable.
Posted by: Tami
>While I don't believe that could be considered obstruction of justice, could that action be interpreted as Mueller as possibly trying to release grand jury information to the public?
Not sure what crime that would be put under though.
Posted by: Tami
>While I don't believe that could be considered obstruction of justice, could that action be interpreted as Mueller as possibly trying to release grand jury information to the public?
Not sure what crime that would be put under though.
Posted by: Delaforce at May 31, 2019 02:43 PM (pJ5N0)
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Barr brought up Obama and Islam in the same sentence....
Posted by: JoeF. at May 31, 2019 02:43 PM (NFEMn)
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>>I'm sure they all got their fair cut of the deal.
For sure, but Hillary also got paid by her Canadian mining mogul pal via his big, fat foundation donation, IIRC.
For sure, but Hillary also got paid by her Canadian mining mogul pal via his big, fat foundation donation, IIRC.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2019 02:43 PM (W+vEI)
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238 >>Didn't 10 or so Obama administration people have to sign off on that deal, including Hillary as Sos and also Mueller?
Yea, it was a large group and just looking at it logically there is no way it should have been approved.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 02:42 PM (/tuJf)
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But Obama is a god king (still is, actually, but American just hasn't figured it out yet). Anything done in his name is no sin.
Yea, it was a large group and just looking at it logically there is no way it should have been approved.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 02:42 PM (/tuJf)
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But Obama is a god king (still is, actually, but American just hasn't figured it out yet). Anything done in his name is no sin.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:43 PM (9cans)
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great interview, important, even. thanks for the analytical post.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 31, 2019 02:43 PM (Pg+x7)
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Thank you. Great stuff.
Posted by: The Invisible Hand at May 31, 2019 02:43 PM (YpRda)
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I read the words Uranium One and imagined Mueller's heart skipping a beat.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 02:40 PM (/tuJf)
Keep hope alive! Huber Bombshells are just around the corner. Hilarious.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 02:40 PM (/tuJf)
Keep hope alive! Huber Bombshells are just around the corner. Hilarious.
Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at May 31, 2019 02:43 PM (hdzef)
Posted by: Insomniac at May 31, 2019 02:43 PM (NWiLs)
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Posted by: DocJ at May 31, 2019 02:41 PM (NYS7S)
All hell, if they were coming from the north they'd of course have to bank right to get to France. Directions - how do they work?
All hell, if they were coming from the north they'd of course have to bank right to get to France. Directions - how do they work?
Posted by: DocJ at May 31, 2019 02:43 PM (NYS7S)
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The Narrative is all that matters. Barr gets it.
What is actually IN the report doesn't matter one bit. All that matters is what is publicly said, and thus publicly heard, about the report.
For two years now, the Dems have driven the narrative. That finally ended with Mueller stepping down. But the fight is just getting started.
Now Trump has to shape the narrative.
What is actually IN the report doesn't matter one bit. All that matters is what is publicly said, and thus publicly heard, about the report.
For two years now, the Dems have driven the narrative. That finally ended with Mueller stepping down. But the fight is just getting started.
Now Trump has to shape the narrative.
Posted by: Son of the Confederacy at May 31, 2019 02:43 PM (VKDnx)
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Well when we think of Islam, we think of its actual history, teachings and actions: female genital mutilation, suicide bombings, treating women like property, raping children, hacking heads off, taxing everyone who isn't Muslim, etc etc.
But when the left thinks of Islam, they think of turbans and minarets and exotic food and bowing on a carpet. Their version of Islam is what the Middle East was portrayed like in the Crosby/Hope road movies.
But when the left thinks of Islam, they think of turbans and minarets and exotic food and bowing on a carpet. Their version of Islam is what the Middle East was portrayed like in the Crosby/Hope road movies.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 02:43 PM (39g3+)
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This is something that has not gotten any attention, and is DAMNING to the authors of the FISA warrant application. The evidence used to obtain a warrant to spy on Americans is supposed to be beyond reproach, and if it is counterbalance by exculpatory evidence, that is supposed to be disclosed. The evidence was shown to be CRAP, and the exculpatory evidence was either not disclosed or was trivialized.
Put another way, if my evidence is actually verified with (say) a 90% confidence level, and I present four pieces of evidence, what are the chances that ALL FOUR pieces of evidence end up to be false?
The chances are 1 X 10 exp-4, or 1 in 10,000!!
This is completely hypothetical, but I believe it is fair on the surface. Thus basic math says the investigators (and the judges) are either incredibly incompetent or incredibly corrupt and brazen crooks. My advice is to take door "B".
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 31, 2019 02:42 PM (CC97/)
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"But we followed the protocol we wrote the day before!"
-A defense
This is something that has not gotten any attention, and is DAMNING to the authors of the FISA warrant application. The evidence used to obtain a warrant to spy on Americans is supposed to be beyond reproach, and if it is counterbalance by exculpatory evidence, that is supposed to be disclosed. The evidence was shown to be CRAP, and the exculpatory evidence was either not disclosed or was trivialized.
Put another way, if my evidence is actually verified with (say) a 90% confidence level, and I present four pieces of evidence, what are the chances that ALL FOUR pieces of evidence end up to be false?
The chances are 1 X 10 exp-4, or 1 in 10,000!!
This is completely hypothetical, but I believe it is fair on the surface. Thus basic math says the investigators (and the judges) are either incredibly incompetent or incredibly corrupt and brazen crooks. My advice is to take door "B".
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 31, 2019 02:42 PM (CC97/)
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"But we followed the protocol we wrote the day before!"
-A defense
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:44 PM (9cans)
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If printed, this post would not be able to go fully around the circumference of Barr's balls.
Posted by: The Barrel at May 31, 2019 02:44 PM (AM1GF)
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WILLIAM BARR: Yeah, but everyone dies and I am not, you know, I don't believe in the Homeric idea that you know, immortality comes by, you know, having odes sung about you over the centuries, you know?
That is great, what he means here is IDGAF
That is great, what he means here is IDGAF
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 31, 2019 02:44 PM (M+Lyo)
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SJW love Iran because American admins, right or wrong, back KSA. I think it's that simple. It's not like they're angry that the French-Brits carved the post WW1 region to suit their colonial tastes. Nah, theres no nobility involved in how they arrived at the decision.
Its just good old fashioned hate america reactionism.
Its just good old fashioned hate america reactionism.
Posted by: 13times at May 31, 2019 02:44 PM (K3B2k)
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... and, yeah, i speculated that mueller was talking to his staff as much to congress or the press or america.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 31, 2019 02:44 PM (Pg+x7)
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Is it safe to assume Barr has a rather large security detail at this point? If no, why not?
Posted by: jhawk90 at May 31, 2019 02:44 PM (Xvo1a)
Posted by: DocJ at May 31, 2019 02:44 PM (NYS7S)
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Oh Kuuuuurt. Did you see Trump's approval numbers? Didya didya didya????
Posted by: rickb223 at May 31, 2019 02:44 PM (eg609)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2019 02:45 PM (4RuLv)
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Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 02:34 PM (cF8AT)
******
Nope ! I do too & for others Cognitive Dissonance
******
Nope ! I do too & for others Cognitive Dissonance
Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at May 31, 2019 02:45 PM (BqBId)
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Uranium Bob looks shaky thinking maybe he just might drop a dime on the gang.
Posted by: john doe at May 31, 2019 02:45 PM (WX+x0)
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262 Now Trump has to shape the narrative.
Nothing will shape the narrative more than arrests.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2019 02:45 PM (4RuLv)
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"Trump is a dictator who arrests his political opponents."
-Easy prediction for the NYT opinion pages for the next 5 years
Nothing will shape the narrative more than arrests.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2019 02:45 PM (4RuLv)
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"Trump is a dictator who arrests his political opponents."
-Easy prediction for the NYT opinion pages for the next 5 years
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:45 PM (9cans)
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... barr is an adult.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 31, 2019 02:46 PM (Pg+x7)
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Stephen Moore was just on Fox Business begging Trump to NOT impose tariffs on Mexico.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2019 02:35 PM (aKsyK)
It's amazing how many idiots do not grasp the point of what Trump is doing with tariffs both on China and now Mexico.
He's holding his Zippo lighter underneath their balls, to give them some motivation to get off their asses and treat us more fairly. Whether or not we collapse their economy is now up to them. Play ball, and everybody is happy. Be a dick, and we'll be hurt a bit, but they will be clobbered, and governments may fall. Their choice.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2019 02:35 PM (aKsyK)
It's amazing how many idiots do not grasp the point of what Trump is doing with tariffs both on China and now Mexico.
He's holding his Zippo lighter underneath their balls, to give them some motivation to get off their asses and treat us more fairly. Whether or not we collapse their economy is now up to them. Play ball, and everybody is happy. Be a dick, and we'll be hurt a bit, but they will be clobbered, and governments may fall. Their choice.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2019 02:46 PM (qgh3L)
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Miss me yet?
Posted by: AG Snoozy Sessions at May 31, 2019 02:46 PM (YTBIQ)
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The greater good is also what destroyed the Jews of Europe. Utopian totalitarians will get you every time.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 31, 2019 02:43 PM (+y/Ru)
Exactly that.
There is no greater good. There is only good.
If you do evil in the service of a greater good, you have only done evil.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 31, 2019 02:43 PM (+y/Ru)
Exactly that.
There is no greater good. There is only good.
If you do evil in the service of a greater good, you have only done evil.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at May 31, 2019 02:46 PM (J+mig)
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Oh Kuuuuurt. Did you see Trump's approval numbers? Didya didya didya????
That's not much of an in-your-face. I was expecting considerable pelvic thrusting.
That's not much of an in-your-face. I was expecting considerable pelvic thrusting.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2019 02:46 PM (4RuLv)
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>> Now Trump has to shape the narrative.
Trump needs to grab the narrative by the Mish and make it his bitch.
Trump needs to grab the narrative by the Mish and make it his bitch.
Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2019 02:46 PM (qYfHh)
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>>Linda was full of gasses....
Seem to recall that Greenhouse's liberalism and nudging conservative justices to move to the left with her writing was referred to as 'the Greenhouse effect'.
Seem to recall that Greenhouse's liberalism and nudging conservative justices to move to the left with her writing was referred to as 'the Greenhouse effect'.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2019 02:47 PM (W+vEI)
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This is why I do not believe the House will vote to impeach. The powers that be KNOW there cannot be open depositions and cross examinations of virtually any investigator called up. The old "FBI Memorandum will be my testimony" wont work.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 31, 2019 02:47 PM (wGbBR)
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Kurt, let us know when the DOW gets down to 6. You know, the same as the number of brain cells you have or the best age to marry a girl, PBUH.
Posted by: Imam Agoatluvr at May 31, 2019 02:47 PM (tv7DV)
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"Trump is a dictator who arrests his political opponents."
-Easy prediction for the NYT opinion pages for the next 5 years
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:45 PM (9cans)
Investigate foreign influence on the MSM. Start with the NYT and Carlos Slim.
-Easy prediction for the NYT opinion pages for the next 5 years
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:45 PM (9cans)
Investigate foreign influence on the MSM. Start with the NYT and Carlos Slim.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2019 02:47 PM (qgh3L)
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Miss me yet?
Posted by: AG Snoozy Sessions at May 31, 2019 02:46 PM (YTBIQ)
Nope. Not at all.
Go back to sleep.
Posted by: AG Snoozy Sessions at May 31, 2019 02:46 PM (YTBIQ)
Nope. Not at all.
Go back to sleep.
Posted by: DocJ at May 31, 2019 02:47 PM (NYS7S)
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269 The greater good is also what destroyed the Jews of Europe. Utopian totalitarians will get you every time.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 31, 2019 02:43 PM (+y/Ru)
Exactly that.
There is no greater good. There is only good.
If you do evil in the service of a greater good, you have only done evil.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at May 31, 2019 02:46 PM (J+mig)
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"Dracarys."
-Daenerys Targaryen
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 31, 2019 02:43 PM (+y/Ru)
Exactly that.
There is no greater good. There is only good.
If you do evil in the service of a greater good, you have only done evil.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at May 31, 2019 02:46 PM (J+mig)
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"Dracarys."
-Daenerys Targaryen
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:47 PM (9cans)
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Nothing will shape the narrative more than arrests.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2019 02:45 PM (4RuLv)
Spot on. The Feds made those dramatic raids and arrests for a reason.
This will never be won in a court-room. It has to be won in the court of public opinion. Arrests would be a very nice way to get that process going.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2019 02:45 PM (4RuLv)
Spot on. The Feds made those dramatic raids and arrests for a reason.
This will never be won in a court-room. It has to be won in the court of public opinion. Arrests would be a very nice way to get that process going.
Posted by: Son of the Confederacy at May 31, 2019 02:47 PM (VKDnx)
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Hmm. Is it an offense to absentmindedly sock the Barrel?
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2019 02:47 PM (AM1GF)
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"Trump is a dictator who arrests his political opponents."
-Easy prediction for the NYT opinion pages for the next 5 years
It will be a better headline when he has them executed.
-Easy prediction for the NYT opinion pages for the next 5 years
It will be a better headline when he has them executed.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2019 02:47 PM (4RuLv)
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What a great final quote about mortality he has at end.
Posted by: Max Power at May 31, 2019 02:47 PM (q177U)
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Anonomous, yes, dangerous to allow anyone in govt to pass this off.
we already see by their use of twit-fb- what their ultimate goals are for the country.
we already see by their use of twit-fb- what their ultimate goals are for the country.
Posted by: willow at May 31, 2019 02:47 PM (r/xAU)
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Somewhere Wilfred Brimley smiles.
Posted by: Wethal at May 31, 2019 02:48 PM (3RspO)
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273 This is why I do not believe the House will vote to impeach. The powers that be KNOW there cannot be open depositions and cross examinations of virtually any investigator called up. The old "FBI Memorandum will be my testimony" wont work.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 31, 2019 02:47 PM (wGbBR)
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"But Pelosi's gonna do it any day now!"
-Way too many people
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 31, 2019 02:47 PM (wGbBR)
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"But Pelosi's gonna do it any day now!"
-Way too many people
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:48 PM (9cans)
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"Trump is a dictator who arrests his political opponents."
-Easy prediction for the NYT opinion pages for the next 5 years
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
>Did the NYT complain about arresting people when McCarthy was looking for Commies during the 2nd Red Scare?
-Easy prediction for the NYT opinion pages for the next 5 years
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
>Did the NYT complain about arresting people when McCarthy was looking for Commies during the 2nd Red Scare?
Posted by: Delaforce at May 31, 2019 02:48 PM (pJ5N0)
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Sorry folks - MY error re: link conveyed in post #142. Correct link: https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2019/f190529.pdf. It MAY not be related, but Just-Us released this SAME day as the Ghoul Lurch Mueller threw his brick. I am more convinced than ever our Country will have to be retrieved from the serpents by force. Many will fail the challenge. And yes, I understand the cost... which by the way doesn't have to be high at all. Think where the areas of actual U.S. production takes place. Food, steel, enrgy and more. WHO controls these AO's. Then overlay a map of the interstate system and its feeders. THINK. THINK before we lose everything. And if it's called for I haven't fired a shot in anger in 50 years, but even at my age can run with a 35 lb. ruck a mile in under 15 mins. And I can still shoot. I had good teachers. I had the best.
Posted by: Coyne at May 31, 2019 02:48 PM (nBnOp)
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220 Capitalists shocked again Dow falls below 25000
Posted by: Kurt at May 31, 2019 02:39 PM (kxxjc)
Yeah, it fell all the way up from 18,000 at the end of the Magic Negro's pathetic term to 25,000 now.
Let us hope it continues falling. Upward overall.
Posted by: Kurt at May 31, 2019 02:39 PM (kxxjc)
Yeah, it fell all the way up from 18,000 at the end of the Magic Negro's pathetic term to 25,000 now.
Let us hope it continues falling. Upward overall.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2019 02:49 PM (qgh3L)
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
37m
.@seanhannity is having a DEEP STATE SHOW tonight on Fox News at 9:00 PM (E), exposing the tremendous abuse of power that has been uncovered. Tremendous guests, a must see - Enjoy!
37m
.@seanhannity is having a DEEP STATE SHOW tonight on Fox News at 9:00 PM (E), exposing the tremendous abuse of power that has been uncovered. Tremendous guests, a must see - Enjoy!
Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at May 31, 2019 02:49 PM (BqBId)
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>>Somewhere Wilfred Brimley smiles.
While he's filling a Heritage Turkey with Quaker Oatmeal for AG Barr.
While he's filling a Heritage Turkey with Quaker Oatmeal for AG Barr.
Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2019 02:49 PM (qYfHh)
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On F&F this morning, even Geraldo, said that Clapper, Comey and Brennan should be "quaking in their boots" after this "bombshell" report.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 31, 2019 02:49 PM (RBOtF)
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But can he quote from the Bible?
Posted by: Pine-scented Druid philosopher James Comey at May 31, 2019 02:49 PM (vtcmf)
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I read all the content, do I get a prize?
Posted by: Max Power at May 31, 2019 02:50 PM (q177U)
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283 Somewhere Wilfred Brimley smiles.
Posted by: Wethal at May 31, 2019 02:48 PM (3RspO)
And says something about "subpeeneees."
Posted by: Wethal at May 31, 2019 02:48 PM (3RspO)
And says something about "subpeeneees."
Posted by: joncelli, totally not an asshole at May 31, 2019 02:50 PM (RD7QR)
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220 Capitalists shocked again Dow falls below 25000
(peeks at e*trade account)
(sees I'm up .75% on a "down" day)
(smiles)
(peeks at e*trade account)
(sees I'm up .75% on a "down" day)
(smiles)
Posted by: DocJ at May 31, 2019 02:50 PM (NYS7S)
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291 But can he Google quotes from the Bible?
Posted by: Pine-scented Druid philosopher James Comey at May 31, 2019 02:49 PM (vtcmf)
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FIFY
Posted by: Pine-scented Druid philosopher James Comey at May 31, 2019 02:49 PM (vtcmf)
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FIFY
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:50 PM (9cans)
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AG Barr appears to be a good American. He also seems to want to save the reputation of the Justice Department, he appears appalled by the FBI management, and he is intent on seeing normal prosecutorial processes restored.
Not quite slat the earth type stuff, but a conclusion (if delivered) we would welcome even still.
Not quite slat the earth type stuff, but a conclusion (if delivered) we would welcome even still.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, the shape of the Destructor is chosen! at May 31, 2019 02:50 PM (Z216Q)
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Oh Kuuuuurt. Did you see Trump's approval numbers? Didya didya didya????
That's not much of an in-your-face. I was expecting considerable pelvic thrusting.
Posted by: Grump928(C)
*snort
That's not much of an in-your-face. I was expecting considerable pelvic thrusting.
Posted by: Grump928(C)
*snort
Posted by: rickb223 at May 31, 2019 02:50 PM (eg609)
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The Ends Justify the Means is For The Greater Good's ugly sister.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 31, 2019 02:50 PM (iXJM1)
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whether he thinks there's something suspicious about the Fusion GPS-arranged Trump Tower meeting. Which he won't answer about.
But his non-answer sounds a lot like he's very bothered by this:
Sounds like he has an investigation in process
But his non-answer sounds a lot like he's very bothered by this:
Sounds like he has an investigation in process
Posted by: Brian Terry, the Revenant at May 31, 2019 02:51 PM (25Dt7)
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*ahem*
Trump has been shaping the narrative for over two years.
Opening volley was his March 2017 early a.m. "Just found out Obama 'tapped' Trump tower!"
What he needs to do now is close the sale.
Trump has been shaping the narrative for over two years.
Opening volley was his March 2017 early a.m. "Just found out Obama 'tapped' Trump tower!"
What he needs to do now is close the sale.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2019 02:51 PM (W+vEI)
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>>While he's filling a Heritage Turkey with Quaker Oatmeal for AG Barr.
It's the right thing to do.
It's the right thing to do.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 02:51 PM (/tuJf)
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>> The Ends Justify the Means is For The Greater Good's ugly sister.
Consequentialists make Tools of us ALL.
Consequentialists make Tools of us ALL.
Posted by: iKant at May 31, 2019 02:51 PM (qYfHh)
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Her Majesty just texted me that Miss Delilah was Best of Breed again at today's Baton Rouge KC show and is now a Bronze-level Grand Champion, so she may be styled MBISS GCh.-B Soyara's Devilish Delilah.
http://soyaraborzoi.com/Delilah.htm
Actually, Lila is our third-best dog quality-wise. Her Majesty thinks Dan and Dot are better. But Lila has her head screwed on properly and loves to show (unlike the other two).
Her Majesty just texted me that Miss Delilah was Best of Breed again at today's Baton Rouge KC show and is now a Bronze-level Grand Champion, so she may be styled MBISS GCh.-B Soyara's Devilish Delilah.
http://soyaraborzoi.com/Delilah.htm
Actually, Lila is our third-best dog quality-wise. Her Majesty thinks Dan and Dot are better. But Lila has her head screwed on properly and loves to show (unlike the other two).
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2019 02:51 PM (BWL+E)
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You can eat a pine tree, ya know. Wait, that's another dude.
Posted by: Zombie Wilford Brimley at May 31, 2019 02:51 PM (vtcmf)
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What he needs to do now is close the sale.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2019 02:51 PM (W+vEI)
I'm thinking that will happen - in early-to-mid September 2020.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2019 02:51 PM (W+vEI)
I'm thinking that will happen - in early-to-mid September 2020.
Posted by: DocJ at May 31, 2019 02:52 PM (NYS7S)
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Sounds like he has an investigation in process
Yeah sounds like he can't comment on an ongoing investigation to me
Yeah sounds like he can't comment on an ongoing investigation to me
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 02:52 PM (39g3+)
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If you do evil in the service of a greater good, you have only done evil.
Cato, I'm saving this for my daughter's "Social Justice" class next year
Cato, I'm saving this for my daughter's "Social Justice" class next year
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 31, 2019 02:52 PM (Rarvo)
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Exactly that.
There is no greater good. There is only good.
If you do evil in the service of a greater good, you have only done evil.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at May 31, 2019 02:46 PM (J+mig)
Yep. I would have avoided some of my regrets in life if I had just simply done the right thing instead of excusing actions or behaviors because of some higher ends.
Simply keeping on what I knew to be the straight and narrow without moralizing or justifying actions that deviated from the path would have saved me trouble.
Similarly, if the coup plotters had just followed department rules instead of thwarting them for some more "lofty" goals, they would not have done all these horrible things.
I hope they all go down in flames.
There is no greater good. There is only good.
If you do evil in the service of a greater good, you have only done evil.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at May 31, 2019 02:46 PM (J+mig)
Yep. I would have avoided some of my regrets in life if I had just simply done the right thing instead of excusing actions or behaviors because of some higher ends.
Simply keeping on what I knew to be the straight and narrow without moralizing or justifying actions that deviated from the path would have saved me trouble.
Similarly, if the coup plotters had just followed department rules instead of thwarting them for some more "lofty" goals, they would not have done all these horrible things.
I hope they all go down in flames.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 31, 2019 02:52 PM (9hauA)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 31, 2019 02:52 PM (+y/Ru)
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Posted by: Kurt at May 31, 2019 02:39 PM (kxxjc)
Communists shocked again as Venezuela goes another month without toilet paper, their currency supplies having run out.
Posted by: Kurt at May 31, 2019 02:39 PM (kxxjc)
Communists shocked again as Venezuela goes another month without toilet paper, their currency supplies having run out.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2019 02:52 PM (qgh3L)
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Bloomberg "news" is jizzing itself over that Kraut bitch Merkel slamming Trump at Harvard. Of course the commies at Harvard applauded wildly for her
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Well, she's certainly led Germany, the EU and Europe generally into their place in the sun.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 31, 2019 02:29 PM (+y/Ru)
Put an East German apparatchik in charge of a country; what could go wrong?
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Well, she's certainly led Germany, the EU and Europe generally into their place in the sun.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 31, 2019 02:29 PM (+y/Ru)
Put an East German apparatchik in charge of a country; what could go wrong?
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 31, 2019 02:52 PM (y7DUB)
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Somewhere Wilfred Brimley smiles.
Posted by: Wethal at May 31, 2019 02:48 PM (3RspO)
California?
Posted by: Wethal at May 31, 2019 02:48 PM (3RspO)
California?
Posted by: JoeF. at May 31, 2019 02:53 PM (NFEMn)
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Posted by: Kurt at May 31, 2019 02:39 PM (kxxjc)
Communists shocked again as Venezuela goes another month without toilet paper, their currency supplies having run out.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2019 02:52 PM (qgh3L)
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"Not True Socialism!"
-Kurt
Posted by: Kurt at May 31, 2019 02:39 PM (kxxjc)
Communists shocked again as Venezuela goes another month without toilet paper, their currency supplies having run out.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2019 02:52 PM (qgh3L)
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"Not True Socialism!"
-Kurt
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:53 PM (9cans)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 31, 2019 02:53 PM (Rarvo)
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in order to legitimate the process we felt we had to reach a decision
What a telling indictment of Mueller. Barr is saying the entire value of Muellers line of investigation is invalidated if no conclusion is reached. Because, that is what the DOJ does. It reaches legal conclusions. Not to do so was an abrogation of responsibility.
It was also an overtly political attack on the Presidency and the President. It was a lasting hit job. Weissman and Mueller deserve to be disbarred for lots of reasons, but their DOJ reputations just got taken out with a howitzer.
What a telling indictment of Mueller. Barr is saying the entire value of Muellers line of investigation is invalidated if no conclusion is reached. Because, that is what the DOJ does. It reaches legal conclusions. Not to do so was an abrogation of responsibility.
It was also an overtly political attack on the Presidency and the President. It was a lasting hit job. Weissman and Mueller deserve to be disbarred for lots of reasons, but their DOJ reputations just got taken out with a howitzer.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, the shape of the Destructor is chosen! at May 31, 2019 02:53 PM (Z216Q)
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220 Capitalists shocked again Dow falls below 25000
We all know the stock market never goes down, ever.
We all know the stock market never goes down, ever.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 31, 2019 02:53 PM (9hauA)
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In my mind, they are, sure. I mean, republics have fallen because of Praetorian Guard mentality where government officials get very arrogant, they identify the national interest with their own political preferences and they feel that anyone who has a different opinion, you know, is somehow an enemy of the state. And you know, there is that tendency that they know better and that, you know, they're there to protect as guardians of the people. That can easily translate into essentially supervening the will of the majority and getting your own way as a government official.
This quote should be accompanied by rotating pop up pictures of Strozk, Comey, Gummy, Clapper, Ohr, Brennan, and Powers.
This quote should be accompanied by rotating pop up pictures of Strozk, Comey, Gummy, Clapper, Ohr, Brennan, and Powers.
Posted by: Newnic at May 31, 2019 02:53 PM (wMHPW)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 31, 2019 02:54 PM (fuK7c)
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Opening volley was his March 2017 early a.m. "Just found out Obama 'tapped' Trump tower!"
What he needs to do now is close the sale.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2019 02:51 PM (W+vEI)
Hasn't sank in for John Q Public yet. All he knows is Trump was under investigation for two years, and that people don't get investigated for no reason.
Now Trump needs to tell John Q a story - simply, because John ain't real bright - and repeatedly, because John also gets easily distracted.
What he needs to do now is close the sale.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2019 02:51 PM (W+vEI)
Hasn't sank in for John Q Public yet. All he knows is Trump was under investigation for two years, and that people don't get investigated for no reason.
Now Trump needs to tell John Q a story - simply, because John ain't real bright - and repeatedly, because John also gets easily distracted.
Posted by: Son of the Confederacy at May 31, 2019 02:54 PM (VKDnx)
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When was this interview broadcast?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2019 02:55 PM (4RuLv)
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Read the whole transcript. Barr gives Zero F_cks.
Posted by: Muad'dib at May 31, 2019 02:55 PM (sjdRT)
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I liked how Dershowitz put it when he commented that in the fear that the president would do something to them, they acted to do it to him first.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 02:55 PM (39g3+)
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is Borzoi a kind of Wolfhound?
Posted by: Bandersnatch
Until 1936, they were called Russian Wolfhounds.
is Borzoi a kind of Wolfhound?
Posted by: Bandersnatch
Until 1936, they were called Russian Wolfhounds.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2019 02:55 PM (BWL+E)
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L'orignal à l'avant m'a dit qu'il n'y aurait pas de français sur le blog.
Posted by: J. Random Commentator at May 31, 2019 02:55 PM (DMUuz)
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I read all the content, do I get a prize?
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Shut up and tell us whether Ace liked the movie.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
That wasn't a review. That was a screenplay!
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Shut up and tell us whether Ace liked the movie.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
That wasn't a review. That was a screenplay!
Posted by: rickb223 at May 31, 2019 02:55 PM (eg609)
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And sometimes they can look at evidence and facts through a biased prism that they themselves don't realize.
And sometimes they can look at evidence and facts through a biased prism that they themselves don't realize.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 31, 2019 02:55 PM (TAmPV)
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>>Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2019 02:51 PM
Congrats to Delilah, and to you and the wife!!
Congrats to Delilah, and to you and the wife!!
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2019 02:55 PM (W+vEI)
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316 220 Capitalists shocked again Dow falls below 25000
We all know the stock market never goes down, ever.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 31, 2019 02:53 PM (9hauA)
Yup.
DJIA November 2016: 18,000
DJIA Today: 25,000
That's 38% higher. What a catastrophic plunge.
We all know the stock market never goes down, ever.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 31, 2019 02:53 PM (9hauA)
Yup.
DJIA November 2016: 18,000
DJIA Today: 25,000
That's 38% higher. What a catastrophic plunge.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2019 02:56 PM (qgh3L)
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325 I read all the content, do I get a prize?
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Shut up and tell us whether Ace liked the movie.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
That wasn't a review. That was a screenplay!
Posted by: rickb223 at May 31, 2019 02:55 PM (eg609)
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"Needs more anti-Trump monologues from women of color."
-Disney
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Shut up and tell us whether Ace liked the movie.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
That wasn't a review. That was a screenplay!
Posted by: rickb223 at May 31, 2019 02:55 PM (eg609)
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"Needs more anti-Trump monologues from women of color."
-Disney
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 02:56 PM (9cans)
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When I saw this:Yeah, but everyone dies and I am not, you know, I don't believe in
the Homeric idea that you know, immortality comes by, you know, having
odes sung about you over the centuries, you know?
I sudden had this catchy tune stuck in my head:Obama...mmm...hmmm...mm..hmmm
the Homeric idea that you know, immortality comes by, you know, having
odes sung about you over the centuries, you know?
I sudden had this catchy tune stuck in my head:Obama...mmm...hmmm...mm..hmmm
Posted by: Singer of Homo-erotic Odes of Immorality at May 31, 2019 02:56 PM (SOV+T)
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Until 1936, they were called Russian Wolfhounds.
Ah. That's why they look like Russian Wolfhounds.
Ah. That's why they look like Russian Wolfhounds.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 31, 2019 02:56 PM (fuK7c)
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82 What are the chances that TFG gave secret, blanket pardons to Comey, Clapper, et al. for their roles in the coup attempt?
Posted by: josephistan at May 31, 2019 02:17 PM (Izzlo)
Zero. Because it would implicate himself. And Barry is all about himself.
Posted by: josephistan at May 31, 2019 02:17 PM (Izzlo)
Zero. Because it would implicate himself. And Barry is all about himself.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 31, 2019 02:56 PM (Qyj93)
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Capitalists shocked again Dow falls below 25000
(peeks at e*trade account)
(sees I'm up .75% on a "down" day)
(smiles)
Posted by: DocJ at May 31, 2019 02:50 PM (NYS7S)
Me too.
F facebook and the rest of the Fangs.
(peeks at e*trade account)
(sees I'm up .75% on a "down" day)
(smiles)
Posted by: DocJ at May 31, 2019 02:50 PM (NYS7S)
Me too.
F facebook and the rest of the Fangs.
Posted by: Newnic at May 31, 2019 02:56 PM (wMHPW)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2019 02:56 PM (BWL+E)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 31, 2019 02:57 PM (Rarvo)
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whether he thinks there's something suspicious about the Fusion GPS-arranged Trump Tower meeting. Which he won't answer about.
But his non-answer sounds a lot like he's very bothered by this:
Sounds like he has an investigation in process
Posted by: Brian Terry, the Revenant at May 31, 2019 02:51 PM (25Dt7
Agreed, that's a big one because with that you go from maybe-justified-maybe-not on investigating, to attempted entrapment.
whether he thinks there's something suspicious about the Fusion GPS-arranged Trump Tower meeting. Which he won't answer about.
But his non-answer sounds a lot like he's very bothered by this:
Sounds like he has an investigation in process
Posted by: Brian Terry, the Revenant at May 31, 2019 02:51 PM (25Dt7
Agreed, that's a big one because with that you go from maybe-justified-maybe-not on investigating, to attempted entrapment.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at May 31, 2019 02:57 PM (dQtSi)
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I like this Barr guy's attitude. Should write a song about it...
Posted by: Joan Jett at May 31, 2019 02:57 PM (QFnhZ)
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Her Majesty just texted me that Miss Delilah was Best of Breed again at today's Baton Rouge KC show and is now a Bronze-level Grand Champion, so she may be styled MBISS GCh.-B Soyara's Devilish Delilah.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Congratulations!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Congratulations!
Posted by: rickb223 at May 31, 2019 02:57 PM (eg609)
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Cato, I'm saving this for my daughter's "Social Justice" class next year
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 31, 2019 02:52 PM (Rarvo)
I'm honored, I hope the lesson takes.
At the heart of all of the "greater good" claims in history is a certain hubris, an expression of extreme vanity.
It basically boils down to "I know better than you, thus I have the right to do whatever I see fit."
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 31, 2019 02:52 PM (Rarvo)
I'm honored, I hope the lesson takes.
At the heart of all of the "greater good" claims in history is a certain hubris, an expression of extreme vanity.
It basically boils down to "I know better than you, thus I have the right to do whatever I see fit."
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at May 31, 2019 02:57 PM (J+mig)
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321 Read the whole transcript. Barr gives Zero F_cks.
Posted by: Muad'dib at May 31, 2019 02:55 PM (sjdRT)
Like ace, that's what I got out of the "no Homeric odes for me, thanks" line. I'm to old to care about my Beltway rep, I'll probably be retiring anyway, I've got my estate lined up, and oh by the way lol get fucked.
Posted by: Muad'dib at May 31, 2019 02:55 PM (sjdRT)
Like ace, that's what I got out of the "no Homeric odes for me, thanks" line. I'm to old to care about my Beltway rep, I'll probably be retiring anyway, I've got my estate lined up, and oh by the way lol get fucked.
Posted by: joncelli, totally not an asshole at May 31, 2019 02:57 PM (RD7QR)
341
So far so good regarding Barr.
He doesn't care what the fake news media says about him, or Mueller either for that matter. The hope now is that Trump has at least crippled the shadow government to the extent that they can't threaten Barr or his family and get away with it.
He doesn't care what the fake news media says about him, or Mueller either for that matter. The hope now is that Trump has at least crippled the shadow government to the extent that they can't threaten Barr or his family and get away with it.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at May 31, 2019 02:58 PM (tw5OQ)
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"WILLIAM BARR: Yeah, but everyone dies and I am not, you know, I don't believe in the Homeric idea that you know, immortality comes by, you know, having odes sung about you over the centuries, you know?"
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What are the odds that some juiceboxer who never read anything other that Harry Potter and bell hooks will hear this interview and allege that Barr said that wanting to be praised was "homo-ish"?
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What are the odds that some juiceboxer who never read anything other that Harry Potter and bell hooks will hear this interview and allege that Barr said that wanting to be praised was "homo-ish"?
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at May 31, 2019 02:58 PM (xN1DB)
343
If it can be established this apparatus was used against Trump, that's bad enough.
If it can be established it was used to influence mid-term elections, that would be even worse.
If it can be established it was used in the 2012 elections...
Note that I am beyond certain that all three propositions are true. The question is if they can be publicly established.
If it can be established it was used to influence mid-term elections, that would be even worse.
If it can be established it was used in the 2012 elections...
Note that I am beyond certain that all three propositions are true. The question is if they can be publicly established.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2019 02:59 PM (AM1GF)
344
Read the whole thing, btw.
Nice.
I haven't heard anyone make an off the cuff reference to Homer in, well...never.
Nice.
I haven't heard anyone make an off the cuff reference to Homer in, well...never.
Posted by: Newnic at May 31, 2019 02:59 PM (wMHPW)
345
I'm no constitutional lawyer but, don't pardons have to be a matter of record, recorded with the Secretary of State? I mean, if someone produces a pardon 10 years from now after Barry dies, how would you know it was legit? I don't think the President has a special chop to put on it.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2019 02:59 PM (4RuLv)
346
Barr sounds to me like a man seriously considering having some Federal LEOs arrest some Federal LEOs.
Posted by: Son of the Confederacy at May 31, 2019 02:59 PM (VKDnx)
347
304 You can eat a pine tree, ya know. Wait, that's another dude.
Posted by: Zombie Wilford Brimley at May 31, 2019 02:51 PM
Want some of deez wild hickory nuts?
Posted by: Zombie Wilford Brimley at May 31, 2019 02:51 PM
Want some of deez wild hickory nuts?
Posted by: Euell Gibbons at May 31, 2019 02:59 PM (NWiLs)
348
And sometimes they can look at evidence and facts through a biased prism that they themselves don't realize.
I don't believe bias has anything to do with it. They were just trying to cover up massive corruption and criminality/
And sometimes they can look at evidence and facts through a biased prism that they themselves don't realize.
I don't believe bias has anything to do with it. They were just trying to cover up massive corruption and criminality/
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 31, 2019 02:59 PM (TAmPV)
349
343 If it can be established this apparatus was used against Trump, that's bad enough.
If it can be established it was used to influence mid-term elections, that would be even worse.
If it can be established it was used in the 2012 elections...
Note that I am beyond certain that all three propositions are true. The question is if they can be publicly established.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2019 02:59 PM (AM1GF)
===========
*looks at results of 2010 midterms*
"We cannot let this happen again. Do what you have to do."
-Obama to Holder, November 3, 2010
If it can be established it was used to influence mid-term elections, that would be even worse.
If it can be established it was used in the 2012 elections...
Note that I am beyond certain that all three propositions are true. The question is if they can be publicly established.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2019 02:59 PM (AM1GF)
===========
*looks at results of 2010 midterms*
"We cannot let this happen again. Do what you have to do."
-Obama to Holder, November 3, 2010
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 03:00 PM (9cans)
350
>>Hasn't sank in for John Q Public yet. All he knows is Trump was under investigation for two years, and that people don't get investigated for no reason.
Now Trump needs to tell John Q a story - simply, because John ain't real bright - and repeatedly, because John also gets easily distracted.
- - - -
Definitely.
But for the last few years Trump has systematically introduced the public to (almost) all of the coup plotters and their role in the sh#tshow via twitter and rallies.
Now when he pulls out, say, the McCabe and Strzok puppets, they'll think "Oh yeah, I remember those guys! On was the liar who got fired right before he retired (Trump taunted him days in advance!), and the other was the 'FBI lover' who looked like he was demonically possessed when testifying," etc.
Now Trump needs to tell John Q a story - simply, because John ain't real bright - and repeatedly, because John also gets easily distracted.
- - - -
Definitely.
But for the last few years Trump has systematically introduced the public to (almost) all of the coup plotters and their role in the sh#tshow via twitter and rallies.
Now when he pulls out, say, the McCabe and Strzok puppets, they'll think "Oh yeah, I remember those guys! On was the liar who got fired right before he retired (Trump taunted him days in advance!), and the other was the 'FBI lover' who looked like he was demonically possessed when testifying," etc.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2019 03:00 PM (W+vEI)
351
Good summary and analysis. I've heard bits and pieces on the CBS radio feed. So at least *some* of this material is getting out to LIVs.
Posted by: kallisto at May 31, 2019 03:00 PM (kD8Fh)
352
you know, would not really mind if obama did decide to pardon himself.
the stain that it would leave on him and everyone associated with him would be forever.
the stain that it would leave on him and everyone associated with him would be forever.
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2019 03:00 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, the shape of the Destructor is chosen! at May 31, 2019 03:00 PM (Z216Q)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2019 03:01 PM (BWL+E)
355
Barry may also have pardoned himself
just noodling
Posted by: BlackOrchid
If it can be shown the 2012 result was illegitimate, is the pardon still good?
As if that will ever come up...
just noodling
Posted by: BlackOrchid
If it can be shown the 2012 result was illegitimate, is the pardon still good?
As if that will ever come up...
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2019 03:01 PM (AM1GF)
356
Tami@193, it requires that one read what is written and leave the crushing cynicism aside.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2019 03:01 PM (I4gka)
357
Vengeance is a stout soft spoken man. This is scary.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 31, 2019 03:01 PM (2LelM)
358
What a great final quote about mortality he has at end.
Posted by: Max Power
Tell me the CBS producer didn't run the next segment on guy who set himself on fire
Posted by: Max Power
Tell me the CBS producer didn't run the next segment on guy who set himself on fire
Posted by: Jean at May 31, 2019 03:02 PM (25Dt7)
359
"Because the Iranians hate Western Civilization almost as much as the SJWs do.
Almost.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur"
the Islamic Republic bills itself as a Shiite implementation of Plato's Republic down to the council of guardians. in some ways it is the most consciously Western regime over Iran since Parthia.
it's just the wrong West. as always.
what Iran (and Plato) doesn't like is Latin / German civilisation, the tradition of a space free from government or religion, or a separate place for government from religion and vice versa.
Almost.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur"
the Islamic Republic bills itself as a Shiite implementation of Plato's Republic down to the council of guardians. in some ways it is the most consciously Western regime over Iran since Parthia.
it's just the wrong West. as always.
what Iran (and Plato) doesn't like is Latin / German civilisation, the tradition of a space free from government or religion, or a separate place for government from religion and vice versa.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 31, 2019 03:02 PM (K8fD2)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2019 03:02 PM (4RuLv)
361
If there was ever a time the republic needed a person like Barr, it is now.
What is most troubling are Barr's observations that politics, not the truth guides everything today and that the media also had become the praetorian guard for that practice.
It truly has become a cult of people who believe their ideas should be paramount to those of the citizens because "they know what's best".
That's the very definition of despot.
At it's very core, the elite are a group of subversives who abuse power to suite their own predilections. It's not about equality, justice or the pursuit of liberty, it is about using those auspices as tools in order to advance their own beliefs.
What an absolute disgrace, every one of them.
What is most troubling are Barr's observations that politics, not the truth guides everything today and that the media also had become the praetorian guard for that practice.
It truly has become a cult of people who believe their ideas should be paramount to those of the citizens because "they know what's best".
That's the very definition of despot.
At it's very core, the elite are a group of subversives who abuse power to suite their own predilections. It's not about equality, justice or the pursuit of liberty, it is about using those auspices as tools in order to advance their own beliefs.
What an absolute disgrace, every one of them.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 31, 2019 03:02 PM (VpIIl)
362
But for the last few years Trump has systematically introduced the public to (almost) all of the coup plotters and their role in the sh#tshow via twitter and rallies.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2019 03:00 PM (W+vEI)
Good point.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2019 03:00 PM (W+vEI)
Good point.
Posted by: Son of the Confederacy at May 31, 2019 03:02 PM (VKDnx)
363
North Korea executed its special envoy to the United States Kim Hyok Chol and foreign ministry officials, holding them responsible for the collapse of the U.S.-North Korea summit in Hanoi, a South Korean newspaper reported on Friday.
Kim Yong Chol, a senior official who carried out working-level negotiations for the second U.S.-North Korea summit in February, is also said to have been subjected to forced labor and ideological education, the Chosun Ilbo reported.
The North Korean leader is believed to be carrying out a massive purge to divert attention away from internal turmoil and discontent, the newspaper said.
https://cnb.cx/2wvTCHG
Pour encourager les autres.
Kim Yong Chol, a senior official who carried out working-level negotiations for the second U.S.-North Korea summit in February, is also said to have been subjected to forced labor and ideological education, the Chosun Ilbo reported.
The North Korean leader is believed to be carrying out a massive purge to divert attention away from internal turmoil and discontent, the newspaper said.
https://cnb.cx/2wvTCHG
Pour encourager les autres.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 31, 2019 03:02 PM (+y/Ru)
364
Barr in 2024!!!!!
Posted by: Ken at May 31, 2019 03:02 PM (E8aRS)
365
Wilford Brimley is not mort.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2019 03:01 PM (BWL+E)
I know.
(sighs)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2019 03:01 PM (BWL+E)
I know.
(sighs)
Posted by: "Diebetus" at May 31, 2019 03:02 PM (NFEMn)
366
343 If it can be established it was used in the 2012 elections...
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2019 02:59 PM (AM1GF)
...then Mittens is the most cowardly Omega cuck to ever be cucked.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2019 02:59 PM (AM1GF)
...then Mittens is the most cowardly Omega cuck to ever be cucked.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 31, 2019 03:03 PM (sm6Pk)
367
Romney didn't lose because of any shenanigans. He lost because he was a garbage-tier candidate. The GOP seriously campaigned against Obamacare like it was the end of the world, and then nominated a guy who did the same basic thing on the state level. Good grief.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 31, 2019 03:03 PM (ppBhU)
368
AG Barr seems to be the right man for the job at this moment. He is pretty much indicating he has come back to the DOJ to chew gum and kick ass, and he is out of gum. This dude has zero f*cks to give.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 31, 2019 03:03 PM (5Yee7)
369
That was incredible. I am going to listen to the whole thing on my drive home. I meant to take a 5-minute break and hit up Ace but it turned into 15. I'll be going back to my Dickensian Wheel here very soon but this was a great write-up, Ace. Thank you for putting in the work. The extensive excerpting and your analysis is great to see and you've done a real service. Thanks.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2019 03:03 PM (I2dne)
Posted by: G marks the spot at May 31, 2019 03:03 PM (7syfl)
371
If Obama pardoned himself, Trump would know about it and you can bet we would have by now too. Because you don't pardon someone who isn't guilty.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 03:03 PM (39g3+)
372
one last thing I hope Barr recosniders his 'they think the are doing a good' and think They were willing to fk Trump, Vote in Hillary of Benghazi, uranium 1- national security outter, killing of assets because of her.
so patriotic do goodism?
I think.not
so patriotic do goodism?
I think.not
Posted by: willow at May 31, 2019 03:03 PM (r/xAU)
373
354
Wilford Brimley is not mort.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2019 03:01 PM (BWL+E)
His diabeetus also persists.
Wilford Brimley is not mort.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2019 03:01 PM (BWL+E)
His diabeetus also persists.
Posted by: joncelli, totally not an asshole at May 31, 2019 03:03 PM (RD7QR)
374
I also love the implicit criticism of Huber, for "standing aside".
Obviously, it would be more effective to work hand-in-glove with the IG, but it matters not because the original charge to Huber has been reassigned to Durham. And Huber gets the Hillary stuff to work on, presumably reporting to Durham.
Obviously, it would be more effective to work hand-in-glove with the IG, but it matters not because the original charge to Huber has been reassigned to Durham. And Huber gets the Hillary stuff to work on, presumably reporting to Durham.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, the shape of the Destructor is chosen! at May 31, 2019 03:04 PM (Z216Q)
Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2019 03:04 PM (qYfHh)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2019 03:04 PM (4RuLv)
377
Excellent interview. Refreshing to see a govt official answer straight forward to direct questions.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 31, 2019 03:04 PM (r+sAi)
378
Romney didn't lose because of any shenanigans. He lost because he was a garbage-tier candidate. The GOP seriously campaigned against Obamacare like it was the end of the world, and then nominated a guy who did the same basic thing on the state level. Good grief.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 31, 2019 03:03 PM (ppBhU)
++++++++++++
Ding ding ding. Romney surrendered, as did McCain. If those on "our side" had gone after Obama with, say, a third of the fury they use when going after Trump, either of them would have president.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 31, 2019 03:03 PM (ppBhU)
++++++++++++
Ding ding ding. Romney surrendered, as did McCain. If those on "our side" had gone after Obama with, say, a third of the fury they use when going after Trump, either of them would have president.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2019 03:05 PM (I2dne)
379
371 If Obama pardoned himself, Trump would know about it and you can bet we would have by now too. Because you don't pardon someone who isn't guilty.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 03:03 PM (39g3+)
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Remember when the media was all aghast at the idea of Trump pardoning himself?
I really want the Obama self-pardon to be true.
The only entertainment I get from politics these days is the quick changes of opinions on matter of principle from the Left.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 03:03 PM (39g3+)
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Remember when the media was all aghast at the idea of Trump pardoning himself?
I really want the Obama self-pardon to be true.
The only entertainment I get from politics these days is the quick changes of opinions on matter of principle from the Left.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 03:05 PM (9cans)
380
North Korea executed its special envoy to the United States Kim Hyok Chol and foreign ministry officials, holding them responsible for the collapse of the U.S.-North Korea summit in Hanoi, a South Korean newspaper reported on Friday.
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The media is going to ask Trump about this, attempting to elicit the "wrong" response. I hope he' s prepared.
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The media is going to ask Trump about this, attempting to elicit the "wrong" response. I hope he' s prepared.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 31, 2019 03:05 PM (NFEMn)
381
Barr is also a man who is relatively unimpressed and unaffected by anything except the law, constitution and justice. I can't remember the last time I saw the kind of fealty and loyalty from anyone in Washington.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 31, 2019 03:05 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: JUDAS PRIEST at May 31, 2019 03:05 PM (qYfHh)
383
Wilford Brimley is not mort.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
But Abe Vigoda is.
The terrorists have won, man. The terrorists have won.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
But Abe Vigoda is.
The terrorists have won, man. The terrorists have won.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 31, 2019 03:06 PM (eg609)
384
Excellent interview. Refreshing to see a govt official answer straight forward to direct questions.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 31, 2019 03:04 PM (r+sAi)
+++++++
He is very direct, in a way that is qualitatively very unlike his boss. I suspect his thing about "screw the reputation, I am here to put the DOJ back on track and no one writes an epic poem about me then I don't care" has a lot do to with it.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 31, 2019 03:04 PM (r+sAi)
+++++++
He is very direct, in a way that is qualitatively very unlike his boss. I suspect his thing about "screw the reputation, I am here to put the DOJ back on track and no one writes an epic poem about me then I don't care" has a lot do to with it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2019 03:06 PM (I2dne)
Posted by: naturalfake at May 31, 2019 03:06 PM (9X624)
386
378 Ding ding ding. Romney surrendered, as did McCain. If those on "our side" had gone after Obama with, say, a third of the fury they use when going after Trump, either of them would have president.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2019 03:05 PM (I2dne)
==========
Why did Romney surrender, though?
That first debate was epic, and then he folded.
Theory: Romney was blackmailed, and the left is still blackmailing him to this day.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2019 03:05 PM (I2dne)
==========
Why did Romney surrender, though?
That first debate was epic, and then he folded.
Theory: Romney was blackmailed, and the left is still blackmailing him to this day.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 03:06 PM (9cans)
387
I loved it when Jan Crawford said she had never heard before that Barr told Mueller to remove the Grand Jury info and he did not, thus causing a significant delay in releasing the report.
Jan honey, the reason you never heard it before is because your employer has never mentioned it to the American people it supposedly informs! There is probably someone in the newsroom who knew, but he needs to keep his job.
And the reason I DID know it: I don't limit my mind to the bandwidth of your fucking DNC propaganda network!
Jan honey, the reason you never heard it before is because your employer has never mentioned it to the American people it supposedly informs! There is probably someone in the newsroom who knew, but he needs to keep his job.
And the reason I DID know it: I don't limit my mind to the bandwidth of your fucking DNC propaganda network!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 31, 2019 03:06 PM (CC97/)
388
Like ace, that's what I got out of the "no Homeric odes for me, thanks" line. I'm to old to care about my Beltway rep, I'll probably be retiring anyway, I've got my estate lined up, and oh by the way lol get fucked.
Posted by: joncelli, totally not an asshole at May 31, 2019 02:57 PM (RD7QR)
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And on the flipside, he stands a chance of going down in history as a great American hero. Maybe get a building or dam named after him...
Posted by: joncelli, totally not an asshole at May 31, 2019 02:57 PM (RD7QR)
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And on the flipside, he stands a chance of going down in history as a great American hero. Maybe get a building or dam named after him...
Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs, still needs a new Nic! at May 31, 2019 03:06 PM (9dQxE)
389
One more time.
>>Sessions had also asked Huber in 2017 to look into issues related to the sale of Uranium One and allegations that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had been improperly involved in the process, as well as broader claims of corruption at the Clinton Foundation. Barr seemed to suggest that what evidence Huber found, if any, may soon be revealed.
>>"The other issues [Huber has] been working on relate to Hillary Clinton" are "winding down and hopefully we'll be in a position to bring those to fruition," Barr said.
Christmas in June this year?!?
>>Sessions had also asked Huber in 2017 to look into issues related to the sale of Uranium One and allegations that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had been improperly involved in the process, as well as broader claims of corruption at the Clinton Foundation. Barr seemed to suggest that what evidence Huber found, if any, may soon be revealed.
>>"The other issues [Huber has] been working on relate to Hillary Clinton" are "winding down and hopefully we'll be in a position to bring those to fruition," Barr said.
Christmas in June this year?!?
Posted by: Newnic at May 31, 2019 03:06 PM (wMHPW)
390
Thanks, ace, excellent analysis. Incredible interview, not the least because (a) Barr is freaking awesome and (b) Crawford is spectacularly fair without being either hostile or obsequious (she'll likely be unpersoned).
Barry likely knows who did what at this point. The purpose of the interview was part PR and part signalling "cooperate while you can still deal." The first part only will be partially successful because the other state propaganda organs certainly will avoid this issue. As to the second part, Barr has affirmed the surveillance is confirmed as a matter of fact and what is to be done as a matter of law is being determined.
Just spitballing but this confirmed for me the second U.S. attorney was appointed largely as a failsafe against Huber and Horowitz. Again, pure hunch, but the media is implicated in some way other than bias and fraud. Pay-for-play is my guess.
It's going to be quite a hot, colorful summer.
Barry likely knows who did what at this point. The purpose of the interview was part PR and part signalling "cooperate while you can still deal." The first part only will be partially successful because the other state propaganda organs certainly will avoid this issue. As to the second part, Barr has affirmed the surveillance is confirmed as a matter of fact and what is to be done as a matter of law is being determined.
Just spitballing but this confirmed for me the second U.S. attorney was appointed largely as a failsafe against Huber and Horowitz. Again, pure hunch, but the media is implicated in some way other than bias and fraud. Pay-for-play is my guess.
It's going to be quite a hot, colorful summer.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 31, 2019 03:07 PM (mx70g)
391
59 None of the definitions for "baller" I found on line made sense???? What does it mean in this context?
Posted by: E, ROBOT at May 31, 2019 02:12 PM (RVmAx)
An expert at playing the game, a boss of all bosses in his chosen arena of play. In this case, the DOJ. He causes fear and anxiety in his opponents.
Posted by: E, ROBOT at May 31, 2019 02:12 PM (RVmAx)
An expert at playing the game, a boss of all bosses in his chosen arena of play. In this case, the DOJ. He causes fear and anxiety in his opponents.
Posted by: kallisto at May 31, 2019 03:07 PM (kD8Fh)
392
North Korea executed its special envoy to the United States Kim Hyok Chol and foreign ministry officials, holding them responsible for the collapse of the U.S.-North Korea summit in Hanoi, a South Korean newspaper reported on Friday.
Talk about life being cheap.
Talk about life being cheap.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 31, 2019 03:07 PM (eg609)
393
I dunno, Barr is taking treason off the table. He's implying it was misguided patriots thinking they were saving the country instead of harming it. Does this mean nobody gets charged with anything because their bias was "unconscious"? I'm not liking where that is going. Mistakes were made but it was overzealous protection only.
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at May 31, 2019 03:07 PM (COzlW)
394
I liked the part where Jan Crawford's Trump-hate-flag is fluttering as if it's a hurricane, her saying, in effect, "Doesn't it bother you to be associated with ORANGE MAN BAD?"
Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 31, 2019 03:07 PM (+fPHo)
395
Why did Romney surrender, though?
That first debate was epic, and then he folded.
Theory: Romney was blackmailed, and the left is still blackmailing him to this day.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 03:06 PM (9cans)
++++++++++++
Maybe. I don't know about they "why" but it sure did happen, between the first and second debates. Was it blackmail? Was it a YUGE payoff? Did he not *want* to win (just getting rich and popular by being the candidate is probably its own appeal if you're a vain and inglorious bastard) and backed off to make sure he didn't?
Who knows. Who cares. He's a shitheel.
That first debate was epic, and then he folded.
Theory: Romney was blackmailed, and the left is still blackmailing him to this day.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 03:06 PM (9cans)
++++++++++++
Maybe. I don't know about they "why" but it sure did happen, between the first and second debates. Was it blackmail? Was it a YUGE payoff? Did he not *want* to win (just getting rich and popular by being the candidate is probably its own appeal if you're a vain and inglorious bastard) and backed off to make sure he didn't?
Who knows. Who cares. He's a shitheel.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2019 03:08 PM (I2dne)
396
Because the Iranians hate Western Civilization almost as much as the SJWs do.
Almost.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur"
the Islamic Republic bills itself as a Shiite implementation of Plato's Republic down to the council of guardians. in some ways it is the most consciously Western regime over Iran since Parthia.
it's just the wrong West. as always.
what Iran (and Plato) doesn't like is Latin / German civilisation, the tradition of a space free from government or religion, or a separate place for government from religion and vice versa.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo
Didn't the Persians get Greek introduced to them at the end of a point stick?
Almost.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur"
the Islamic Republic bills itself as a Shiite implementation of Plato's Republic down to the council of guardians. in some ways it is the most consciously Western regime over Iran since Parthia.
it's just the wrong West. as always.
what Iran (and Plato) doesn't like is Latin / German civilisation, the tradition of a space free from government or religion, or a separate place for government from religion and vice versa.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo
Didn't the Persians get Greek introduced to them at the end of a point stick?
Posted by: Jean at May 31, 2019 03:08 PM (25Dt7)
397
Ding ding ding. Romney surrendered, as did McCain. If those on "our side" had gone after Obama with, say, a third of the fury they use when going after Trump, either of them would have president.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2019 03:05 PM (I2dne)
I think Romney "wanted" to win--he's just a loser who listened to his advisers.
I'm convinced McCain took an intentional dive after Palin blew up and they couldn't contain her.
"John, she's gone rogue. You have to do the right thing."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2019 03:05 PM (I2dne)
I think Romney "wanted" to win--he's just a loser who listened to his advisers.
I'm convinced McCain took an intentional dive after Palin blew up and they couldn't contain her.
"John, she's gone rogue. You have to do the right thing."
Posted by: JoeF. at May 31, 2019 03:08 PM (NFEMn)
398
The Man...
Posted by: Gonzotx at May 31, 2019 03:08 PM (eQh3B)
399
Why did Romney surrender, though? That first debate was epic, and then he folded. Theory: Romney was blackmailed, and the left is still blackmailing him to this day.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 03:06 PM (9cans)
At least one AAR, quoting an "anonymous staffer", stated that after Debate One Romney - for the first time - seriously considered that he might win. And promptly directed his entire staff to pull back and play it safe.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 03:06 PM (9cans)
At least one AAR, quoting an "anonymous staffer", stated that after Debate One Romney - for the first time - seriously considered that he might win. And promptly directed his entire staff to pull back and play it safe.
Posted by: Son of the Confederacy at May 31, 2019 03:09 PM (VKDnx)
400
Get your tickets for THE Great Wilford Brimley / Euell Gibbons pie fight!
Posted by: Burger Chef at May 31, 2019 03:09 PM (RuIsu)
401
395
Who knows. Who cares. He's a shitheel.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2019 03:08 PM (I2dne)
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The why speaks directly to how dirty Obama was.
I do care, greatly. If he was paid off, that's one thing, but if Romney was blackmailed and the blackmail continues, then that must come out.
Obama should go down as the most corrupt president in the history of the nation, a nation that includes presidents like Harding, Quincy Adams, and Clinton.
Who knows. Who cares. He's a shitheel.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2019 03:08 PM (I2dne)
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The why speaks directly to how dirty Obama was.
I do care, greatly. If he was paid off, that's one thing, but if Romney was blackmailed and the blackmail continues, then that must come out.
Obama should go down as the most corrupt president in the history of the nation, a nation that includes presidents like Harding, Quincy Adams, and Clinton.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 03:10 PM (9cans)
402
Hey everybody. Meme going around FB:
"PDT is 72 years old and never wears glasses. That's because he already has 2020."
"PDT is 72 years old and never wears glasses. That's because he already has 2020."
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2019 03:10 PM (miE9U)
403
It's Time!
Posted by: The guy who says it's time at May 31, 2019 03:10 PM (ymnmz)
404
393 I dunno, Barr is taking treason off the table. He's implying it was misguided patriots thinking they were saving the country instead of harming it. Does this mean nobody gets charged with anything because their bias was "unconscious"? I'm not liking where that is going. Mistakes were made but it was overzealous protection only.
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at May 31, 2019 03:07 PM (COzlW)
If we're being honest, instead of wishful thinking, there were never going to be any Death Sentences handed out over this, no matter how much they all deserve it.
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at May 31, 2019 03:07 PM (COzlW)
If we're being honest, instead of wishful thinking, there were never going to be any Death Sentences handed out over this, no matter how much they all deserve it.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 31, 2019 03:10 PM (sm6Pk)
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Maybe. I don't know about they "why" but it sure did happen, between the first and second debates. Was it blackmail? Was it a YUGE payoff? Did he not *want* to win (just getting rich and popular by being the candidate is probably its own appeal if you're a vain and inglorious bastard) and backed off to make sure he didn't?
Who knows. Who cares. He's a shitheel.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2019 03:08 PM (I2dne)
He wiped the floor with Obama in that first debate. Then his consultants got skeered....
Who knows. Who cares. He's a shitheel.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2019 03:08 PM (I2dne)
He wiped the floor with Obama in that first debate. Then his consultants got skeered....
Posted by: JoeF. at May 31, 2019 03:10 PM (NFEMn)
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Ace's movie review doesn't make this film seem like much fun.
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You tell 'em I'm commin' and Hell's commin' with me.
- Wyatt Barr
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You tell 'em I'm commin' and Hell's commin' with me.
- Wyatt Barr
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 31, 2019 03:10 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: kallisto at May 31, 2019 03:10 PM (kD8Fh)
408
"Sometimes there's a man..."
Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2019 03:10 PM (qYfHh)
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Huck, I did not get that at all.
Durham is charged with investigating the things that came after the Mueller report.
Huber was charged with working on Killary, the Clinton Foundation and Uranium 1.
These are separate but close investigations, as is the IG report.
Durham is charged with investigating the things that came after the Mueller report.
Huber was charged with working on Killary, the Clinton Foundation and Uranium 1.
These are separate but close investigations, as is the IG report.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2019 03:10 PM (I4gka)
410
Raising the Barr
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 31, 2019 03:10 PM (5l6gb)
411
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 31, 2019 03:02 PM (K8fD2)
Listening to Tacitus's book about Germans/Germany it was easy to see the roots of what we consider Anglo-Saxon tradition. I wonder where it disappeared to on the mainland.
Listening to Tacitus's book about Germans/Germany it was easy to see the roots of what we consider Anglo-Saxon tradition. I wonder where it disappeared to on the mainland.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 31, 2019 03:11 PM (uquGJ)
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I think Romney wanted to win as a left wing Republican, and would have governed to protect 0care and to ban guns. but I have said that already.
he wanted to win but on his own terms, and screw all of you.
he wanted to win but on his own terms, and screw all of you.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 31, 2019 03:11 PM (K8fD2)
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384 Excellent interview. Refreshing to see a govt official answer straight forward to direct questions.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 31, 2019 03:04 PM (r+sAi)
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My sense is he is soft soaping the audience of future witnesses and targets with his talk of this not being Treason but, rather, normal mistakes in judgement and hubris. This guy is a torpedo and he is going to hang a couple of people. Remember, Trump offered to let this slide and the Dems said no. Then they turned it up to eleventy for ratings and fund raising and base building. There will be scalps on Barr's teepee.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 31, 2019 03:04 PM (r+sAi)
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My sense is he is soft soaping the audience of future witnesses and targets with his talk of this not being Treason but, rather, normal mistakes in judgement and hubris. This guy is a torpedo and he is going to hang a couple of people. Remember, Trump offered to let this slide and the Dems said no. Then they turned it up to eleventy for ratings and fund raising and base building. There will be scalps on Barr's teepee.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 31, 2019 03:11 PM (2LelM)
414
re the "everyone dies" thing and the concern trolls, I read the "everyone dies" in the sense of "and I really don't care what lies the media crafts about me after I'm dead".
And he's right
And he's right
Posted by: barbarausa at May 31, 2019 03:11 PM (W7IZQ)
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Re: School Shootings.
Note how after 911 and Flight 93, a lot of passengers then started taking positive reaction when any passenger started exhibiting the crazy?
This is what will happen with School Shootings. No more paralyzed teachers or kids. More and more kids (who have the numbers) are recognizing the ancient truism that there is safety in numbers. If everyone goes after the shooter, fewer people will get shot. Some will and some may die but fewer will get shot over all.
It's a tough lesson and a tougher one to commit to especially for a youngster but they're getting it.
Soon no Shooter will risk the ignominy of being taken down by an 11 yo girl and will seek other targets. Note the rise in church shootings.
Frankly any venue/blding/etc that posts a No Guns Allowed sign should be taken to court for being irresponsible and exposing the public to potential harm.
That's all Gun Free Zones are.
Guess who helped get the law about Gun Free Zones passed?
That's right; old sleepy touchy uncle Joe Biden.
Note how after 911 and Flight 93, a lot of passengers then started taking positive reaction when any passenger started exhibiting the crazy?
This is what will happen with School Shootings. No more paralyzed teachers or kids. More and more kids (who have the numbers) are recognizing the ancient truism that there is safety in numbers. If everyone goes after the shooter, fewer people will get shot. Some will and some may die but fewer will get shot over all.
It's a tough lesson and a tougher one to commit to especially for a youngster but they're getting it.
Soon no Shooter will risk the ignominy of being taken down by an 11 yo girl and will seek other targets. Note the rise in church shootings.
Frankly any venue/blding/etc that posts a No Guns Allowed sign should be taken to court for being irresponsible and exposing the public to potential harm.
That's all Gun Free Zones are.
Guess who helped get the law about Gun Free Zones passed?
That's right; old sleepy touchy uncle Joe Biden.
Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at May 31, 2019 03:11 PM (xq6Dg)
416
Vengeance is a stout soft spoken man
with a cudgel.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2019 03:02 PM (4RuLv)
I wouldn't have expected vengeance to arrive wearing a fleece vest.
Shows what I know.
with a cudgel.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2019 03:02 PM (4RuLv)
I wouldn't have expected vengeance to arrive wearing a fleece vest.
Shows what I know.
Posted by: Newnic at May 31, 2019 03:12 PM (wMHPW)
417
Hey everybody. Meme going around FB:
"PDT is 72 years old and never wears glasses. That's because he already has 2020."
Posted by: qdpsteve
Saw that. LOL
"PDT is 72 years old and never wears glasses. That's because he already has 2020."
Posted by: qdpsteve
Saw that. LOL
Posted by: rickb223 at May 31, 2019 03:13 PM (eg609)
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WILLIAM BARR: As a matter of law. In other words, we didn't agree with the legal analysis- a lot of the legal analysis in the report. It did not reflect the views of the department. It was the views of a particular lawyer or lawyers and so we applied what we thought was the right law but then we didn't rely on that.
This this this this this.
There's a push out there in prosecutorland that any, and I do mean any, attempts by a defendant to deny his guilt is per se obstruction. That's what they were doing to Trump and it is good to see an AG push back against this.
Posted by:
The 17 angry Democrat lawyers. Barr just highlighted that fact without saying it. The legal BS that Trump had somehow obstructed the investigation and "justice" by tweeting about them was ignored by Barr and Rosenstein. Weissman, I'm sure also had a hand in trying to twist and spin the definition of obstruction in order to write Chapter II of this report.
Obstruction is what Hillary did when she had someone take a hammer to her cell phones, so they couldn't be examined. It's not a hard concept to understand.
This this this this this.
There's a push out there in prosecutorland that any, and I do mean any, attempts by a defendant to deny his guilt is per se obstruction. That's what they were doing to Trump and it is good to see an AG push back against this.
Posted by:
The 17 angry Democrat lawyers. Barr just highlighted that fact without saying it. The legal BS that Trump had somehow obstructed the investigation and "justice" by tweeting about them was ignored by Barr and Rosenstein. Weissman, I'm sure also had a hand in trying to twist and spin the definition of obstruction in order to write Chapter II of this report.
Obstruction is what Hillary did when she had someone take a hammer to her cell phones, so they couldn't be examined. It's not a hard concept to understand.
Posted by: Jen the original at May 31, 2019 03:13 PM (wFFUS)
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I have no doubt the Dems stole FL in 2012. FL just elected a Republican Governor and a Tea Party Senator. Polls showed Romney up by a comfortable margin and Obama won by even a higher margin. Even popular West lost relection and I don't think the redistricting would have caused that.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 31, 2019 03:13 PM (iXJM1)
420
415
Guess who helped get the law about Gun Free Zones passed?
That's right; old sleepy touchy uncle Joe Biden.
Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at May 31, 2019 03:11 PM (xq6Dg)
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Trump, 2021:
"I am encouraging the newly Republican House and strengthened Republican Senate to pass the One Gun Owner One Vote Act. No longer shall the defenseless determine the defenses of those who chose to defend themselves."
Guess who helped get the law about Gun Free Zones passed?
That's right; old sleepy touchy uncle Joe Biden.
Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at May 31, 2019 03:11 PM (xq6Dg)
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Trump, 2021:
"I am encouraging the newly Republican House and strengthened Republican Senate to pass the One Gun Owner One Vote Act. No longer shall the defenseless determine the defenses of those who chose to defend themselves."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 03:13 PM (9cans)
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Jean, yeah, and the post Greek states like Armenia, Pontus, Nabataea, and Parthia were Greek-themed.
Sasanian Iran was something more interesting IMO. very consciously Iranian.
Sasanian Iran was something more interesting IMO. very consciously Iranian.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 31, 2019 03:13 PM (K8fD2)
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>>He wiped the floor with Obama in that first debate. Then his consultants got skeered....
Not to mention for all his faults Obama was both the incumbent president and a pretty good campaigner. I doubt Trump would have done any better in that situation.
He, and we, got lucky that he ran against possibly the worst Dem presidential nominee in decades.
Not to mention for all his faults Obama was both the incumbent president and a pretty good campaigner. I doubt Trump would have done any better in that situation.
He, and we, got lucky that he ran against possibly the worst Dem presidential nominee in decades.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 03:13 PM (/tuJf)
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413 384 Excellent interview. Refreshing to see a govt official answer straight forward to direct questions.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 31, 2019 03:04 PM (r+sAi)
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My sense is he is soft soaping the audience of future witnesses and targets with his talk of this not being Treason but, rather, normal mistakes in judgement and hubris. This guy is a torpedo and he is going to hang a couple of people. Remember, Trump offered to let this slide and the Dems said no. Then they turned it up to eleventy for ratings and fund raising and base building. There will be scalps on Barr's teepee.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 31, 2019 03:11 PM (2LelM)
My take is that he's taking a strict, legalistic approach to the word.
He may indeed take scalps.
Which remind me...we need Zod to write some Sun-In-Hair scenes regarding Barr.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 31, 2019 03:04 PM (r+sAi)
----------------------
My sense is he is soft soaping the audience of future witnesses and targets with his talk of this not being Treason but, rather, normal mistakes in judgement and hubris. This guy is a torpedo and he is going to hang a couple of people. Remember, Trump offered to let this slide and the Dems said no. Then they turned it up to eleventy for ratings and fund raising and base building. There will be scalps on Barr's teepee.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 31, 2019 03:11 PM (2LelM)
My take is that he's taking a strict, legalistic approach to the word.
He may indeed take scalps.
Which remind me...we need Zod to write some Sun-In-Hair scenes regarding Barr.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at May 31, 2019 03:14 PM (bcbK8)
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Oh this is epic.....
@TheSharpEdge1
Wow! Watch RINO @justinamash get BTFO by this Trump supporter, for his stance on impeachment of @POTUS.
I'd like to buy this woman a beer. Thank you, patriot!
Video:
https://tinyurl.com/yyfzuyx8
@TheSharpEdge1
Wow! Watch RINO @justinamash get BTFO by this Trump supporter, for his stance on impeachment of @POTUS.
I'd like to buy this woman a beer. Thank you, patriot!
Video:
https://tinyurl.com/yyfzuyx8
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 03:14 PM (cF8AT)
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414 re the "everyone dies" thing and the concern trolls, I read the "everyone dies" in the sense of "and I really don't care what lies the media crafts about me after I'm dead".
And he's right
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Like Trump, this is Barr's last roundup. Neither is doing it for money. They are doing it for their kids and grandkids and more kids to come. Neither will write a book to get their kickback on their office. They already have money and status. They will just do what is obvious to do and smile.
414 re the "everyone dies" thing and the concern trolls, I read the "everyone dies" in the sense of "and I really don't care what lies the media crafts about me after I'm dead".
And he's right
-------------------------
Like Trump, this is Barr's last roundup. Neither is doing it for money. They are doing it for their kids and grandkids and more kids to come. Neither will write a book to get their kickback on their office. They already have money and status. They will just do what is obvious to do and smile.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 31, 2019 03:14 PM (2LelM)
426
422
Not to mention for all his faults Obama was both the incumbent president and a pretty good campaigner. I doubt Trump would have done any better in that situation.
He, and we, got lucky that he ran against possibly the worst Dem presidential nominee in decades.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 03:13 PM (/tuJf)
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Romney went from debate champ to scared child between debates. Obama largely remained the same.
Not to mention for all his faults Obama was both the incumbent president and a pretty good campaigner. I doubt Trump would have done any better in that situation.
He, and we, got lucky that he ran against possibly the worst Dem presidential nominee in decades.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 03:13 PM (/tuJf)
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Romney went from debate champ to scared child between debates. Obama largely remained the same.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 03:14 PM (9cans)
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have no doubt the Dems stole FL in 2012. FL just elected a Republican Governor and a Tea Party Senator. Polls showed Romney up by a comfortable margin and Obama won by even a higher margin. Even popular West lost relection and I don't think the redistricting would have caused that.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 31, 2019 03:13 PM (iXJM1)
I think they stole Florida in 2000. But the Bush's stole it back.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 31, 2019 03:13 PM (iXJM1)
I think they stole Florida in 2000. But the Bush's stole it back.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 31, 2019 03:15 PM (NFEMn)
428
394
I liked the part where Jan Crawford's Trump-hate-flag is fluttering as
if it's a hurricane, her saying, in effect, "Doesn't it bother you to be
associated with ORANGE MAN BAD?"
Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 31, 2019 03:07 PM (+fPHo)
The old "Aren't you afraid of been seen as enabling the President?" line let her NPC slip show.
Cause all the right thinking peepo want his nuts in a vice cause Orange Man Bad.
HAHAHAHAHA
Barr: LOLGF
.
I liked the part where Jan Crawford's Trump-hate-flag is fluttering as
if it's a hurricane, her saying, in effect, "Doesn't it bother you to be
associated with ORANGE MAN BAD?"
Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 31, 2019 03:07 PM (+fPHo)
The old "Aren't you afraid of been seen as enabling the President?" line let her NPC slip show.
Cause all the right thinking peepo want his nuts in a vice cause Orange Man Bad.
HAHAHAHAHA
Barr: LOLGF
.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at May 31, 2019 03:15 PM (ymnmz)
429
393 I dunno, Barr is taking treason off the table. He's implying it was misguided patriots thinking they were saving the country instead of harming it. Does this mean nobody gets charged with anything because their bias was "unconscious"? I'm not liking where that is going. Mistakes were made but it was overzealous protection only.
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at May 31, 2019 03:07 PM (COzlW)
He's trying to make the dumbass media understand that intel and LEO's could do illegal things while, justifying in their heads that it's for a greater cause.
That doesn't make it a valid excuse. It simply explains motive. The crime is still committed.
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at May 31, 2019 03:07 PM (COzlW)
He's trying to make the dumbass media understand that intel and LEO's could do illegal things while, justifying in their heads that it's for a greater cause.
That doesn't make it a valid excuse. It simply explains motive. The crime is still committed.
Posted by: Jen the original at May 31, 2019 03:16 PM (wFFUS)
430
Not being home when the cops come looking for you: Obstruction of Justice and Contempt of Court.
Thanks, Bammy.
Thanks, Bammy.
Posted by: Burger Chef at May 31, 2019 03:16 PM (RuIsu)
431
I do care, greatly. If he was paid off, that's one thing, but if Romney was blackmailed and the blackmail continues, then that must come out.
Obama should go down as the most corrupt president in the history of the nation, a nation that includes presidents like Harding, Quincy Adams, and Clinton.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 03:10 PM (9cans)
++++++++++
That's fair. I do care if he was blackmailed by the United States government. Very much so. The right thing to do would have been to be as loud about it as possible and then win anyway just on fury vote, but whatever on that hypothetical.
Yes, if he was turfed by our own government then regardless of how I feel about Romney (it isn't good), those guys need to hang.
Obama should go down as the most corrupt president in the history of the nation, a nation that includes presidents like Harding, Quincy Adams, and Clinton.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 03:10 PM (9cans)
++++++++++
That's fair. I do care if he was blackmailed by the United States government. Very much so. The right thing to do would have been to be as loud about it as possible and then win anyway just on fury vote, but whatever on that hypothetical.
Yes, if he was turfed by our own government then regardless of how I feel about Romney (it isn't good), those guys need to hang.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2019 03:16 PM (I2dne)
432
If we're being honest, instead of wishful thinking, there were never going to be any Death Sentences handed out over this, no matter how much they all deserve it.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 31, 2019 03:10 PM
I wasn't expecting that necessarily but the conclusion to this might be: no charges will be filed against anyone because they all thought they were doing the right thing. Kinda like the first IG report, the crimes are acknowledged BUT...it was reasonable for the bad actors to believe what they believed.
Everything else Barr says gives me hope. But that part of the interview sounds like there's wiggle room for the bad actors.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 31, 2019 03:10 PM
I wasn't expecting that necessarily but the conclusion to this might be: no charges will be filed against anyone because they all thought they were doing the right thing. Kinda like the first IG report, the crimes are acknowledged BUT...it was reasonable for the bad actors to believe what they believed.
Everything else Barr says gives me hope. But that part of the interview sounds like there's wiggle room for the bad actors.
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at May 31, 2019 03:16 PM (COzlW)
433
214 Backing Jeff Sessions for AG might well be my greatest embarrassment.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2019 02:38 PM (4RuLv)
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You were bamboozled. Unless your one of those that believe there was some plan between Trump, Sessions and Rosenstein to delay prosecuting the treasonous officials for two years.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2019 02:38 PM (4RuLv)
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You were bamboozled. Unless your one of those that believe there was some plan between Trump, Sessions and Rosenstein to delay prosecuting the treasonous officials for two years.
Posted by: MAGA at May 31, 2019 03:16 PM (Bmdmf)
434
Romney went from debate champ to scared child between debates. Obama largely remained the same.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 03:14 PM (9cans)
Obama was stoned out of his gourd in the first debate.
Romney went from debate champ to scared child between debates. Obama largely remained the same.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 03:14 PM (9cans)
Obama was stoned out of his gourd in the first debate.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 31, 2019 03:17 PM (TAmPV)
435
344 I haven't heard anyone make an off the cuff reference to Homer in, well...never.
Sadly,9 out of 10 CBS Lo-Fo viewers will think it is a reference to Home Simpson.
Sadly,9 out of 10 CBS Lo-Fo viewers will think it is a reference to Home Simpson.
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 31, 2019 03:17 PM (CC97/)
436
Nice job on the summary Ace!
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 31, 2019 03:17 PM (8AaUb)
437
Puddin Head, dangerous old men doing what's right with a smile and a "lolgf"
What's that thing about beware an old man in a job that kills young ones?
What's that thing about beware an old man in a job that kills young ones?
Posted by: barbarausa at May 31, 2019 03:17 PM (W7IZQ)
438
I dunno, Barr is taking treason off the table. He's implying it was misguided patriots thinking they were saving the country instead of harming it. Does this mean nobody gets charged with anything because their bias was "unconscious"? I'm not liking where that is going. Mistakes were made but it was overzealous protection only.
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at May 31, 2019 03:07 PM (COzlW)
You could be right and that would mean that is probably a lesser Swamp Creature.
Like a Water's Edge Thingamadoodle.
But, my take on that is that Barr is anticipating the criminal's/seditionist's defense.
That is...the allegations were so horrible that we had to be sure. Imagine a Russian Puppet as Prezzzy!!! (Ignore the Obama behind the curtain).
That's why he pursuing the origin of the Russian Hoax so assiduously.
The origin almost certainly will be criminal in intent and that will color everyone who worked on it.
It also involved foreign governments working hand in glove with the criminals/seditionists to enable this coup attempt against a duly elected President.
That adds up to treason under the legal definition, I believe.
So, step by step, inch by inch, Barr is carefully and completely setting up the prosecution of many high level bureaucrats and Dims.
Or, you know, Swamp Critter.
We'll see.
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at May 31, 2019 03:07 PM (COzlW)
You could be right and that would mean that is probably a lesser Swamp Creature.
Like a Water's Edge Thingamadoodle.
But, my take on that is that Barr is anticipating the criminal's/seditionist's defense.
That is...the allegations were so horrible that we had to be sure. Imagine a Russian Puppet as Prezzzy!!! (Ignore the Obama behind the curtain).
That's why he pursuing the origin of the Russian Hoax so assiduously.
The origin almost certainly will be criminal in intent and that will color everyone who worked on it.
It also involved foreign governments working hand in glove with the criminals/seditionists to enable this coup attempt against a duly elected President.
That adds up to treason under the legal definition, I believe.
So, step by step, inch by inch, Barr is carefully and completely setting up the prosecution of many high level bureaucrats and Dims.
Or, you know, Swamp Critter.
We'll see.
Posted by: naturalfake at May 31, 2019 03:17 PM (9X624)
439
@realDonaldTrump
As we celebrate LGBT Pride Month and recognize the outstanding contributions LGBT people have made to our great Nation, let us also stand in solidarity with the many LGBT people who live in dozens of countries worldwide that punish, imprison, or even execute individuals....
...on the basis of their sexual orientation. My Administration has launched a global campaign to decriminalize homosexuality and invite all nations to join us in this effort!
Oh that's gonna leave a mark!
As we celebrate LGBT Pride Month and recognize the outstanding contributions LGBT people have made to our great Nation, let us also stand in solidarity with the many LGBT people who live in dozens of countries worldwide that punish, imprison, or even execute individuals....
...on the basis of their sexual orientation. My Administration has launched a global campaign to decriminalize homosexuality and invite all nations to join us in this effort!
Oh that's gonna leave a mark!
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 03:17 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Czech Chick at May 31, 2019 03:18 PM (J9wxX)
441
431
Yes, if he was turfed by our own government then regardless of how I feel about Romney (it isn't good), those guys need to hang.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2019 03:16 PM (I2dne)
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Either that, or Trump gets to use the same tools.
Yes, if he was turfed by our own government then regardless of how I feel about Romney (it isn't good), those guys need to hang.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2019 03:16 PM (I2dne)
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Either that, or Trump gets to use the same tools.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 03:18 PM (9cans)
442
I don't think Barr took treason off the table. Besides, no one's getting executed unless they off themselves
But sedition is a big crime too.
But sedition is a big crime too.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 31, 2019 03:18 PM (NFEMn)
443
>>Romney went from debate champ to scared child between debates. Obama largely remained the same.
No question, he choked. I don't buy the "he didn't want to win" argument. No sane person puts themselves and their family through that just for grins.
But the circumstances surrounding each election are different. Hillary was a god awful nominee. What kind of idiot calls half the country irredeemable deplorables and then decides not to even campaign in crucial swing states? By comparison Obama was a much better candidate.
No question, he choked. I don't buy the "he didn't want to win" argument. No sane person puts themselves and their family through that just for grins.
But the circumstances surrounding each election are different. Hillary was a god awful nominee. What kind of idiot calls half the country irredeemable deplorables and then decides not to even campaign in crucial swing states? By comparison Obama was a much better candidate.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2019 03:18 PM (/tuJf)
444
> "Durham is charged with investigating the things that came after the Mueller report.
Huber was charged with working on Killary, the Clinton Foundation and Uranium 1.
These are separate but close investigations, as is the IG report."- Posted by: Ben Had
We ought not let the relative silence from Huber about his investigations mislead us. Personally, I wouldn't be surprised to wake up one morning to learn that the first big name to be indicted in this entire multi-faceted criminal cabal is one William Jefferson Clinton and that money laundering foundation of his.
.
Huber was charged with working on Killary, the Clinton Foundation and Uranium 1.
These are separate but close investigations, as is the IG report."- Posted by: Ben Had
We ought not let the relative silence from Huber about his investigations mislead us. Personally, I wouldn't be surprised to wake up one morning to learn that the first big name to be indicted in this entire multi-faceted criminal cabal is one William Jefferson Clinton and that money laundering foundation of his.
.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at May 31, 2019 03:18 PM (tw5OQ)
445
Yeah, thanks for the heavy lift, Ace!
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at May 31, 2019 03:18 PM (ymnmz)
446
439 @realDonaldTrump
As we celebrate LGBT Pride Month and recognize the outstanding contributions LGBT people have made to our great Nation, let us also stand in solidarity with the many LGBT people who live in dozens of countries worldwide that punish, imprison, or even execute individuals....
...on the basis of their sexual orientation. My Administration has launched a global campaign to decriminalize homosexuality and invite all nations to join us in this effort!
Oh that's gonna leave a mark!
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 03:17 PM (cF8AT)
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Didn't mention Iran directly.
He's a cuck.
As we celebrate LGBT Pride Month and recognize the outstanding contributions LGBT people have made to our great Nation, let us also stand in solidarity with the many LGBT people who live in dozens of countries worldwide that punish, imprison, or even execute individuals....
...on the basis of their sexual orientation. My Administration has launched a global campaign to decriminalize homosexuality and invite all nations to join us in this effort!
Oh that's gonna leave a mark!
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 03:17 PM (cF8AT)
==========
Didn't mention Iran directly.
He's a cuck.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at May 31, 2019 03:18 PM (9cans)
Posted by: FrodoB at May 31, 2019 03:20 PM (5+qNg)
448
439
@realDonaldTrump
As we celebrate LGBT Pride Month and recognize the outstanding
contributions LGBT people have made to our great Nation, let us also
stand in solidarity with the many LGBT people who live in dozens of
countries worldwide that punish, imprison, or even execute
individuals....
...on the basis of their sexual orientation. My Administration has
launched a global campaign to decriminalize homosexuality and invite all
nations to join us in this effort!
Oh that's gonna leave a mark!
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 03:17 PM (cF8AT)
Heads are gonna splode like melons at a Gallegher concert.
@realDonaldTrump
As we celebrate LGBT Pride Month and recognize the outstanding
contributions LGBT people have made to our great Nation, let us also
stand in solidarity with the many LGBT people who live in dozens of
countries worldwide that punish, imprison, or even execute
individuals....
...on the basis of their sexual orientation. My Administration has
launched a global campaign to decriminalize homosexuality and invite all
nations to join us in this effort!
Oh that's gonna leave a mark!
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 03:17 PM (cF8AT)
Heads are gonna splode like melons at a Gallegher concert.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at May 31, 2019 03:20 PM (ymnmz)
449
My Administration has launched a global campaign to decriminalize homosexuality and invite all nations to join us in this effort!
What a homophobe
My Administration has launched a global campaign to decriminalize homosexuality and invite all nations to join us in this effort!
What a homophobe
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 31, 2019 03:20 PM (TAmPV)
450
Video:
https://tinyurl.com/yyfzuyx8
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 03:14 PM (cF8AT)
A mashup of Laura Loomer, Candace Owens...and LIBERTY
https://tinyurl.com/yyfzuyx8
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 03:14 PM (cF8AT)
A mashup of Laura Loomer, Candace Owens...and LIBERTY
Posted by: kallisto at May 31, 2019 03:20 PM (kD8Fh)
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444 We ought not let the relative silence from Huber about his investigations mislead us. Personally, I wouldn't be surprised to wake up one morning to learn that the first big name to be indicted in this entire multi-faceted criminal cabal is one William Jefferson Clinton and that money laundering foundation of his.
.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at May 31, 2019 03:18 PM (tw5OQ)
I'd pardon Bill to get Hill.
Because it's funnier if he gets to point and laugh at her while she's dragged off in shackles.
.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at May 31, 2019 03:18 PM (tw5OQ)
I'd pardon Bill to get Hill.
Because it's funnier if he gets to point and laugh at her while she's dragged off in shackles.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 31, 2019 03:20 PM (sm6Pk)
452
Nood... rambo
Posted by: zeera with a new book, link in nic at May 31, 2019 03:20 PM (3Bzg7)
453
429 393 I dunno, Barr is taking treason off the table. He's implying it was misguided patriots thinking they were saving the country instead of harming it. Does this mean nobody gets charged with anything because their bias was "unconscious"? I'm not liking where that is going. Mistakes were made but it was overzealous protection only.
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at May 31, 2019 03:07 PM (COzlW)
He's trying to make the dumbass media understand that intel and LEO's could do illegal things while, justifying in their heads that it's for a greater cause.
That doesn't make it a valid excuse. It simply explains motive. The crime is still committed.
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No. He is soft soaping the coming anal reaming. As any Peen State Coach knows, you soap them up with nice hot shower, back rubs and talk about Greek wrestling and then you deliver the wood.
429 393 I dunno, Barr is taking treason off the table. He's implying it was misguided patriots thinking they were saving the country instead of harming it. Does this mean nobody gets charged with anything because their bias was "unconscious"? I'm not liking where that is going. Mistakes were made but it was overzealous protection only.
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at May 31, 2019 03:07 PM (COzlW)
He's trying to make the dumbass media understand that intel and LEO's could do illegal things while, justifying in their heads that it's for a greater cause.
That doesn't make it a valid excuse. It simply explains motive. The crime is still committed.
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No. He is soft soaping the coming anal reaming. As any Peen State Coach knows, you soap them up with nice hot shower, back rubs and talk about Greek wrestling and then you deliver the wood.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 31, 2019 03:20 PM (2LelM)
454
How the constitution defines treason is not the same as the legal definition.
Constitution:
"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court."
Legal or Dictionary:
"the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government."
There is a difference and the nets are stressing the Constitutional definition but that may or may not apply or be interpreted as the defining legal definition.
Reason being a lot of the Scribes took knowing part in this escapade and are quaking in their boots over being uncovered.
Constitution:
"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court."
Legal or Dictionary:
"the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government."
There is a difference and the nets are stressing the Constitutional definition but that may or may not apply or be interpreted as the defining legal definition.
Reason being a lot of the Scribes took knowing part in this escapade and are quaking in their boots over being uncovered.
Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at May 31, 2019 03:21 PM (xq6Dg)
455
He's trying to make the dumbass media understand
that intel and LEO's could do illegal things while, justifying in their
heads that it's for a greater cause.
That doesn't make it a valid excuse. It simply explains motive. The crime is still committed.
Posted by: Jen the original at May 31, 2019 03:16 PM (wFFUS)
This. It is like his explanation of the legal definition of treason and the popular understanding of treason.
that intel and LEO's could do illegal things while, justifying in their
heads that it's for a greater cause.
That doesn't make it a valid excuse. It simply explains motive. The crime is still committed.
Posted by: Jen the original at May 31, 2019 03:16 PM (wFFUS)
This. It is like his explanation of the legal definition of treason and the popular understanding of treason.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Summer Savings on Nitwits, Dimwits, Lackwits, and Halfwits! at May 31, 2019 03:21 PM (dQtSi)
456
I dunno, Barr is taking treason off the table. He's implying it was misguided patriots thinking they were saving the country instead of harming it.
Treason has a very specific constitutional definition. He did imply that colloquially (the way people usually use the term casually) that they were guilty of treason, but he's a lawman.
Treason has a very specific constitutional definition. He did imply that colloquially (the way people usually use the term casually) that they were guilty of treason, but he's a lawman.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 03:21 PM (39g3+)
457
Nood
Posted by: rickb223 at May 31, 2019 03:21 PM (eg609)
458
I was counting on the Homeric stuff!
Posted by: Barack Obama at May 31, 2019 03:21 PM (1sNHT)
459
You know who else launched a global campaign to decriminalize homosexuality?
Posted by: blaster at May 31, 2019 03:21 PM (9VeU0)
460
A mashup of Laura Loomer, Candace Owens...and LIBERTY
Posted by: kallisto at May 31, 2019 03:20 PM (kD8Fh)
I love how she just plowed ahead when he tried to interrupt!
Posted by: kallisto at May 31, 2019 03:20 PM (kD8Fh)
I love how she just plowed ahead when he tried to interrupt!
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 03:21 PM (cF8AT)
461
Technically this could be turned into a movie that Ace would review and it would be awesome
Posted by: GregV61 at May 31, 2019 03:22 PM (iRIIK)
462
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 03:14 PM (cF8AT)
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Did you listen to Amash's weasel-ass reply?
Basically told her she was full of shit.
He's a fucking dirtbag. As I said on another thread, it looks like he spends more time in the House gym than in his office. I wonder how much more cock he's getting as a result.
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Did you listen to Amash's weasel-ass reply?
Basically told her she was full of shit.
He's a fucking dirtbag. As I said on another thread, it looks like he spends more time in the House gym than in his office. I wonder how much more cock he's getting as a result.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at May 31, 2019 03:22 PM (Pd4NN)
463
Reading those excerpts is like watching Morpheus give Keanu Reeves the real score.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at May 31, 2019 03:23 PM (+Mw6Z)
464
I love how she just plowed ahead when he tried to interrupt!
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 03:21 PM (cF8AT)
Yep.
She kept her cool even though she was fired up, she's articulate and well-spoken.
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 03:21 PM (cF8AT)
Yep.
She kept her cool even though she was fired up, she's articulate and well-spoken.
Posted by: kallisto at May 31, 2019 03:23 PM (kD8Fh)
465
Legal or Dictionary:
"the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government."
Important pedantic distinction: that's just the dictionary definition, the legal definition in the USA is the constitutional one.
"the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government."
Important pedantic distinction: that's just the dictionary definition, the legal definition in the USA is the constitutional one.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 03:23 PM (39g3+)
466
it looks like our "elites" ran into someone with intelligence instead of credentials.
Posted by: x at May 31, 2019 03:23 PM (nFwvY)
467
Fuck Jeff Sessions, by the way.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at May 31, 2019 02:16 PM (bcbK
Jeff Sessions est fututio ignominiam et non moralis fragmen merda
*pours a beer out for Kreplach*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at May 31, 2019 02:16 PM (bcbK
Jeff Sessions est fututio ignominiam et non moralis fragmen merda
*pours a beer out for Kreplach*
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 31, 2019 03:23 PM (5Yee7)
468
Did you listen to Amash's weasel-ass reply?
Basically told her she was full of shit.
He's a fucking dirtbag. As I said on another thread, it looks like he spends more time in the House gym than in his office. I wonder how much more cock he's getting as a result.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at May 31, 2019 03:22 PM (Pd4NN)
Yeah, but she monster trucked right over him!
Basically told her she was full of shit.
He's a fucking dirtbag. As I said on another thread, it looks like he spends more time in the House gym than in his office. I wonder how much more cock he's getting as a result.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at May 31, 2019 03:22 PM (Pd4NN)
Yeah, but she monster trucked right over him!
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2019 03:24 PM (cF8AT)
469
Until 1936, they were called Russian Wolfhounds.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2019 02:55 PM (BWL+E)
White or Red?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2019 02:55 PM (BWL+E)
White or Red?
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 31, 2019 03:25 PM (e1mEI)
Posted by: Last of the Mohicans at May 31, 2019 03:26 PM (geTNO)
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For those in the media and on the left, a dictator EXECUTES those he believes aren't doing their job or have threatened his regime.
Say like Kim Jon un.
All Trump's ever done is fire people and call people names.
BIG DIFFERENCE!
Say like Kim Jon un.
All Trump's ever done is fire people and call people names.
BIG DIFFERENCE!
Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at May 31, 2019 03:27 PM (xq6Dg)
472
Obama was stoned out of his gourd in the first debate.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 31, 2019 03:17 PM (TAmPV)
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It was the one and only time SNL stuck it to him.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 31, 2019 03:17 PM (TAmPV)
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It was the one and only time SNL stuck it to him.
Posted by: jhawk90 at May 31, 2019 03:27 PM (Xvo1a)
473
I thought Borzoi's were called Afghans?
They are great dogs big but skinny like an oversize Greyhound or Whippet.
They don't have a very big skull so they're a bit dumb.
They are great dogs big but skinny like an oversize Greyhound or Whippet.
They don't have a very big skull so they're a bit dumb.
Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at May 31, 2019 03:28 PM (xq6Dg)
Posted by: Morning Chicano at May 31, 2019 03:29 PM (6qtm/)
475
no need to indict Strzok for a $250 ticket/bribe, when we get to hang him in after the big trial anyway (half snark)
Posted by: illiniwek at May 31, 2019 03:30 PM (Cus5s)
476
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2019 03:23 PM (39g3+)
There's a lot of room for adjustment of definitions in the Constitutional one as to what each adjective/noun refers to what acts.
There's a lot of room for adjustment of definitions in the Constitutional one as to what each adjective/noun refers to what acts.
Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at May 31, 2019 03:31 PM (xq6Dg)
477
Congratulations Hadrian!
I must confess that those beautiful dogs totally intimidate me. I'm used to my mutts, but heavens-to-betsy they are Deneuve or some other icon. I'm happy when mine are relatively polite in company and I just can't imagine beauty and patience.
I must confess that those beautiful dogs totally intimidate me. I'm used to my mutts, but heavens-to-betsy they are Deneuve or some other icon. I'm happy when mine are relatively polite in company and I just can't imagine beauty and patience.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 31, 2019 03:32 PM (MIKMs)
478
That must have put some wet shit in deomfascist's panties.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 31, 2019 03:32 PM (pw+jk)
479
335 Barry may also have pardoned himself
And auto-signed it. Too lazy to come up with the idea himself.
I liked the mention of Hillary. The fortress will crumble if they look at the "Foundation"
And auto-signed it. Too lazy to come up with the idea himself.
I liked the mention of Hillary. The fortress will crumble if they look at the "Foundation"
Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2019 03:34 PM (1F6Sr)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 31, 2019 03:35 PM (vEIlU)
481
CRAWFORD: You've said, you've said the time frame between the
election and the inauguration, you've said this publicly, was kind of
strange. Some strange things may have happened. What concerns you
there? Specifically, the meeting at Trump Tower.
BARR: I don't want to- I don't want to get into that.
Could this be the heads-up given to Trump Transition by Adm. Rogers in which the next day they clear out and set up shop at Trump Bedminster?
election and the inauguration, you've said this publicly, was kind of
strange. Some strange things may have happened. What concerns you
there? Specifically, the meeting at Trump Tower.
BARR: I don't want to- I don't want to get into that.
Could this be the heads-up given to Trump Transition by Adm. Rogers in which the next day they clear out and set up shop at Trump Bedminster?
Posted by: Trends2020 at May 31, 2019 03:41 PM (siRa7)
482
I do believe Ace of Spades' post was a Homeric Ode to Attorney General Barr.
I will carve it onto the walls of my Shrine of Flaming Capitalism,
I will carve it onto the walls of my Shrine of Flaming Capitalism,
Posted by: Mutnodjmet at May 31, 2019 03:52 PM (sPJyv)
483
303 -- Hadrian: Congrats on Delila's win.
Dan and Dot: is it possible that they are young enough that their brains aren't fully developed yet, and that they will eventually settle down? I remember my German Shepherd's first eighteen or so months. Almost as bad as my kids' first twenty years.
Dan and Dot: is it possible that they are young enough that their brains aren't fully developed yet, and that they will eventually settle down? I remember my German Shepherd's first eighteen or so months. Almost as bad as my kids' first twenty years.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at May 31, 2019 04:02 PM (5+J7M)
Posted by: Brian at May 31, 2019 04:19 PM (K84+K)
485
108 What are the chances that TFG gave secret, blanket pardons to Comey, Clapper, et al. for their roles in the coup attempt?
"What has been done has been done by my will and for the good of the state."
"What has been done has been done by my will and for the good of the state."
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 31, 2019 04:35 PM (ABuva)
486
Huber was charged with working on Killary, the Clinton Foundation and Uranium 1.
These are separate but close investigations, as is the IG report.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2019 03:10 PM (I4gka)
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Barr took away the FISA investigation from his purview.
These are separate but close investigations, as is the IG report.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2019 03:10 PM (I4gka)
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Barr took away the FISA investigation from his purview.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, the shape of the Destructor is chosen! at May 31, 2019 04:39 PM (Z216Q)
487
Quoting Barr:
"Right, so Huber had originally been asked to take a look at the FISA applications and the electronic surveillance"
"So he has not been active on this front in recent months and so Durham is taking over that role."
Quoting Barr:
"Right, so Huber had originally been asked to take a look at the FISA applications and the electronic surveillance"
"So he has not been active on this front in recent months and so Durham is taking over that role."
Posted by: Huck Follywood, the shape of the Destructor is chosen! at May 31, 2019 04:46 PM (Z216Q)
488
Watching Mueller mumble through the script written for him by Jerry Nadler was like watching a hostage interview made under duress to a lifetime of lies. He did everything but blink out a hidden message in Morse Code to Valerie in the spare bedroom.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 31, 2019 04:47 PM (Ndje9)
489
you never cease to amaze..thanks for taking so much time to break it all down for the lazy/lower i.q followers.....
quite an effort...and much appreciated...
quite an effort...and much appreciated...
Posted by: jay marks at May 31, 2019 05:28 PM (9SGBP)
490
Well, just in those excerpts, he says "you know" 26 times. Of course we all have our voibal ferbles.
Posted by: Jim S. at May 31, 2019 05:30 PM (ynUnH)
491
Thank you Ace. I hope Barr is as protected as the President.
Posted by: Laurie at May 31, 2019 06:13 PM (TzZU0)
492
No question that Barr is the adult male in the room.
All those little kiddies named McCabe, Comey, Brennan, Clapper and the other brats have been told that, "When Daddy gets home, you are going to get a licking."
Well Daddy walked in the door a month or two ago.
All those little kiddies named McCabe, Comey, Brennan, Clapper and the other brats have been told that, "When Daddy gets home, you are going to get a licking."
Well Daddy walked in the door a month or two ago.
Posted by: Comanche Voter at May 31, 2019 07:28 PM (WRSbt)
493
This was very good.
Posted by: torabora at June 01, 2019 12:25 AM (Y274z)
494
Barr certainly has shamed Huber. I assume the prick cashed all the checks he was paid...it's called honest services fraud to get paid to do something and not do it... last I looked.
Posted by: torabora at June 01, 2019 12:35 AM (Y274z)
495
Hailey/Barr 2024!
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2019 12:38 AM (3mQnF)
496
I'll believe it when I see it.
By the way, thank you - all 41 of you - for buying my book Western Terminus.
You can reach me at sanderson2208@gmail.com
By the way, thank you - all 41 of you - for buying my book Western Terminus.
You can reach me at sanderson2208@gmail.com
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They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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