Memorial Day Weekend [KT]

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From Usually lurking Euro:

Pictures taken at Luxembourg American Cemetery the other weekend.

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Walked among the headstones reading the names out loud.

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They are not forgotten.

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I'm not very good at taking pictures, and I was more focused on explaining to my little one why I was crying - we had just gone to the Bastogne museum and memorial.

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Some of the soldiers who died in the Battle of the Bulge, which started on December 16, 1944, are buried here. Fighting continued after that horrible battle. General Patton, who died following a car accident in Germany shortly after the end of the war, is also buried here.

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Thanks for sharing your visit with us, Euro. Means a lot to many of us. And the photos are lovely.

Memorial Day has been getting a little extra attention this year because it comes just before the 75th anniversary of D-Day.

Thrown into a ditch, Trudeau heard a dying friend nearby, calling out for his mother.

"You train with him and you ate with him and you slept with him and you fought with him. And in less than three hours, he was gone," he said.

Within hours, combat would be over for Trudeau, as well. He was captured by German forces, and spent the duration in a prisoner-of-war camp. By the time the war was over he had gone from 135 pounds to about 85.

He returned to Normandy in 1955 to see the graves of eight platoon members who didn't survive. This time, he'll say a prayer over their graves.

"They're the heroes. They're the ones who gave everything they had," he said.

For decades -- until recently -- he never spoke of these things. This June he'll make his 12th trip back to Normandy. Eager to keep the memory of what happened there alive, he has often brought others along to places like the American cemetery at Colleville-sur-Mer .

"Pick out a tombstone, any tombstone. Place your hand on that white marble and say to yourself, 'Six feet down is a boy.' .... He gave his life for his country and then you lift your eyes up and you see 9,400 white marble tombstones," he said. "They all gave their lives for their country."

Here's a different idea: Memorial Day Weekend and the anniversary of D-Day are good times to record family stories.

A fire at the Military Personnel Records Center in St. Louis in July 1973 has caused many WWII Army and Air Corps records to be unavailable. So, if you have copies of your ancestor's records, you should treasure them all the more.

In my family, my father had been in R.O.T.C. at Auburn. He trained at UCLA and other posts as a meteorologist in 1943, then went to Italy after the fall of Rome on June 5, 1944. While his own letters and other papers were lost due to a tornado at our house, materials he sent home were put in a scrapbook by my mother and help record his service in Italy. Regretfully, my father has been deceased for decades, so we can only reassemble his WWII story from memories and the scrapbook.

Below are some images from the Washington D.C. area earlier this year, from my niece and her friends. There is a lot of strange stuff happening in D.C., but there are still some monuments and memorials worth seeing:

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Has anyone ever attended or watched the National Memorial Day Concert? This year they are focusing on the 75th anniversary of the D-Day Invasion and a story about Vietnam. I'm not wild about the the description of the program, but it could be the way PBS presents it.

Not much said about the conflicts that aren't over yet. Here's a message from a war correspondent after meeting a Kurdish taxi driver:

You see, I've learned one thing as a war correspondent that I never really understood while I was an Air Force pilot: The U.S. military remains the torchbearer for our country's best values and a beacon of hope for people fighting for their freedom around the world.

Meeting Safeen reminded me of that truth. He reminded me that freedom is worth the fighting for, and that America has friends forever due to the sacrifices of our heroes.

This Memorial Day, that's a message all Americans need to hear.

And that freedom is most precious here at home. Last week's Gardening Thread featured some photos from Gettysburg. Today, a scene from the place the Civil War began. From another niece, writing a few weeks ago:

We were at Fort Sumter for the last tour of the day and they take the flag down during that tour. They let anyone who wanted to help fold the flag fold it.

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I really like that image.

Hope that you have a meaningful Memorial Day weekend, with some fun included. Maybe get together with some friends and neighbors. Maybe include a kid or two. Got anything planned? Just a little reminder that there are still parades and ceremonies for Memorial Day across the country. Stay safe if you are in the path of wild weather.

Remember that this is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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1 No words...

Posted by: lin-duh at May 25, 2019 11:20 AM (UUBmN)

2 Great pics - great thread.
As a kid, Dad took us to DC one time. I didn't like most of it - but I did like seeing the changing of the guard at the tomb of the unknown soldier. I also liked it when the lady park ranger jerked a knot in a dude's ass for taking pictures during the ceremony. I didn't know the word douche at the time ... but I knew what one looked like after that.

Posted by: Son of the Confederacy at May 25, 2019 11:22 AM (V3hDg)

3 Went to see Cold Blue on Thursday, at the end one of the veterans who was interviewed for the film said the 28,000 airmen who never came back were the heros.

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2019 11:26 AM (BbGew)

4 I'm always humbled when we happen to be in some podunk little county in the middle of nowhere and the local cemetery will have a separate section with a few dozen white crosses under an American flag.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 25, 2019 11:27 AM (lPsvG)

5 Very touching photo montage, We took a trip to Arlington national cemetery as a kid, maybe I was 14 or so.

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2019 11:30 AM (BbGew)

6
RIP

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2019 11:30 AM (oGNNA)

7 Crap! I just remembered I had my mother complete a request for my father's service records some time ago. I don't even remember how long ago it was. Presumably they never came, because I would expect her to have told me.

Maybe not. Mom is funny sometimes. A mind as sharp as ever, in spite of her body showing more and more deterioration after more than 80 years.

She has so much paperwork everywhere, it might have come, and she just never opened it. I guess I have to ask her.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2019 11:31 AM (cY3LT)

8 Back from my daily walk, humid yuck. Thanks for the Memorial Day thread, OB. Surprised that Patton's marker is so very simplistic.

Posted by: NOS4Ah2 at May 25, 2019 11:31 AM (WWS2B)

9 Thankfully most colleges and universities have finished their last semesters so we won't have SJW's demanding that the American flag be removed because "racism" or "it makes me feel unsafe"

We will have idiot city administrations refusing to fly the flag because it offends illegals, muzzies, or commies.

Then you have anal retentive HOA's who say you can't put any flag up on your own property that doesn't conform to their anal retentive code.

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 11:33 AM (0Ntuf)

10 The Conservative Case for refusing to honor the flag this weekend!

Posted by: The Bulwark at May 25, 2019 11:34 AM (0Ntuf)

11 Colleville-sur-Mer, actually the entire Normandy peninsula, is worth a visit.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at May 25, 2019 11:36 AM (tTLAA)

12 After reading the Obsolete Man-Skills from the ONT thread, it would appear that we wouldn't need to get into a shooting war. Just knock out the electricity to their neighborhoods and they'll be in tears of frustration tapping on their phones which do nothing.

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 11:38 AM (0Ntuf)

13 Forgot about the Paris protests this morning, they are going on and look more lively than usual

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2019 11:38 AM (BbGew)

14 My dad served as an advisor to ARVN in 1964-65, he was 24 and was overseas when I was born.

He didn't like to talk much about it but he had an affection for all things Vietnamese.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2019 11:38 AM (EZebt)

15 Getting dusty in here.

Posted by: adobe juan humbled kenobe at May 25, 2019 11:38 AM (8gYCR)

16 My great uncle in in Arlington National Cemetery. Not a last name I like to see on a tombstone.

We honored him one Memorial Day. He was a crew chief for the 13th Squadron in New Guinea, then maintained B-29 engines.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2019 11:39 AM (u82oZ)

17 It's Ft. Sumter....named for Gen. Thomas Sumter....who also has a city and county in SC named for him.

Posted by: BignJames at May 25, 2019 11:39 AM (ykq7q)

18 To all of the 58,000 who didn't make it home from Vietnam, and
especially to several particular brothers in arms. You are missed and
will never be forgotten.
Moshe Ben AvramHHC, 229th Assault Helicopter Battalion"Task Force Garry Owen"1st Cavalry DivisionBien Hoa, Vietnam 1972

129 Aviation Company( Assault Helicopter )1st Aviation BrigadeDaNang, Vietnam 1972-1973

Posted by: Moshe Ben Avram at May 25, 2019 11:40 AM (uGbDu)

19 Patton's grave used to be towards the back of that cemetery, among his men as he requested, but eventually the staff got tired of asking questions about where Patton was buried so they moved his remains to the front


The Move happened sometime after the Summer of 1964, when I was there. Luxembourg City is nearby; a nice place to visit

Posted by: the Man who Burps in French at May 25, 2019 11:41 AM (9HuGt)

20 I haven't lost any family members to armed conflict but did lose my collage roommate of two years, and best friend, in RVN. He comes to mind every April 8th and Memorial Day.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at May 25, 2019 11:42 AM (tTLAA)

21 Surprised that Patton's marker is so very simplistic.
Posted by: NOS4Ah2 at May 25, 2019 11:31 AM (WWS2B)
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That's what he wanted. He wanted to be buried with his men and didn't want anything special. His grave at Luxembourg is at the top, facing his men.

When I was there about three years ago, there were two caretakers wiping each cross down by hand. It is an immaculate place. There are several medal of honor recipients buried there as well. Very moving.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 25, 2019 11:43 AM (NtglE)

22 It's Ft. Sumter....named for Gen. Thomas Sumter....who also has a city and county in SC named for him.

Posted by: BignJames at May 25, 2019 11:39 AM (ykq7q)

....and a National Forest.

Posted by: BignJames at May 25, 2019 11:43 AM (ykq7q)

23 Not family, but this fellow was my favorite customer I ever had and likely ever will have. He was 5' 4", about which he always joked that he was 6' when he entered the military, but all the jumps compressed him significantly.

He had the happiest, friendliest demeanor, always quick with a quip and never met a stranger. He came in nearly every day after eating at a Chinese buffet in town for a beer (or two if he was gonna get wild!) and always brought me the fortune cookie for my daughter because he knew she liked them when we caught hm eating by himself and plopped down at the table with him.

He loved to shoot guns, so we would go to the range and fire his AR even when he was 90. He collected coins and would bring his collection in to the bar and we would look through them together and I would bring mine and we would exchange thoughts on coins.

He offered me a sidearm at a ridiculously cheap price once and I told him I was a little light on cash so another customer attempted to purchase it, but he said "No that price is for Bitter" and later told me it wasn't for sale to "that asshole".

When he passed, he left me some coins and coin magazines in his will. When his son brought them in, I didn't know what to say, I thought I was just his bartender. It actually made me tear up.

Anyway, I always think about him on Memorial Day, even though he didn't fall in action:

SFC. Milan Glumac, a resident of Clinton, TN for approximately 11 years, died on Saturday, April 12, 2014 at the age of 94.

He was a veteran of WWII serving in the U.K., North Africa, Sicily and Italy, serving under Generals, Eisenhower, Patton, Bradley and Clark. He became an Airborne Soldier and had various assignments with the 82nd Division, 101st in Fort Campbell, KY, 508th AIRCT in Japan 1955, and six years with Special Forces which include a one year tour in Vietnam 1967. Awards received were, ARCOM W/V, and 1 OLC, Bronze Star, Centurion Jump Wings, CIB, Glider Badge, Honorary Jump Wings (Vietnam), Expert Badge (Rifle). He retired with more than 27 years of service.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 25, 2019 11:43 AM (bDC2M)

24 I might go down to Arlington today. It is beautiful here in the DMV.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 25, 2019 11:43 AM (flINI)

25 11 Colleville-sur-Mer, actually the entire Normandy peninsula, is worth a visit.
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It definitely is. I went about 25 years ago, and still remember the feeling.

I grew up in Arlington, VA, so the cemetery, and Gen. Lee's white house up on the hill, was a well-known place to me and my friends. My oldest brother (USN) is now buried there.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 25, 2019 11:45 AM (k4dH2)

26 kbdabear

My solution to the HOA issue was to run it. In the ur-liberal "planned community"of Reston, VA. I freed the residents of a lot of shit. Like doing away with assigned 70's theme-park colors for every house. (Harvest orange doors, etc.)

Was reelected 5 times, because no one else could fight the Reston Association Design Review Board like I could wanted the thankless job.

An American flag was always welcome.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2019 11:45 AM (u82oZ)

27 Can' t wait for all the memes from the asshats who really don't care but want to make people feel guilty for BBQing and stuff. You can usually tell who doesn't really care by the  snarky comments about what the average person does.  ""Oh, you gonna BARBEQUE today?"  "Think of the soldiers while you get drunk in your back yard!"  and so on.  Seriously people?  Yes, I will stipulate that there are a great many people that don't get it.  Including most of the people with the snarky comments about beer and bbq, or whatever.  First, we DO picnic and gather with friends and family because WE CAN!  We live in the best, most free nation this earth has ever seen, in large part to our military.  So yes, grilling that hot dog DOES honor our vets. We're doing what they enabled us to do.  Second, if there are kids and such that really don't know or get the meaning, perhaps it is because of the left's usual disdain for the military in general. If you talk about Vietnam vets as baby killers and Iraq vets as war criminals, no wonder many younger people might not really know or care about Memorial Day.  My kids are out of high school now but they were taught very little about our history when it comes to wars.  That is on you, liberal asshats, especially since almost all teachers are liberal to some degree.  Most people you hear complain about having fun on a day like today usually don't care about the flag, soldiers, etc., except to try and use it to make others look bad.

Posted by: Juddgement at May 25, 2019 11:46 AM (L5U/8)

28 i'm glad there was a mention of a kurd in the post (above). it's the reason we remain in syria. the kurds fought isis, and helped make possible our defeat of the "caliphate". i hold it would be tragic to abandon them to the turks, assad and quds. there's some controversy over this (cf both carlson and trump), but that's my position.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 25, 2019 11:47 AM (Pg+x7)

29 I haven't lost any family members to armed conflict but did lose my collage roommate of two years, and best friend, in RVN. He comes to mind every April 8th and Memorial Day.
Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at May 25, 2019 11:42 AM (tTLAA)
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I lost a cousin, John, in Viet Nam. Two weeks shy of his 19th birthday.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 25, 2019 11:48 AM (NtglE)

30
I just visited a striking war memorial in the surprisingly beautiful city of Columbus, IN. The interior pillars are inscribed with the names of Columbus' war dead (the exterior ones are left blank to accommodate future war dead).

https://tinyurl.com/yy4g5gxv

They also are inscribed with selected quotes culled from letters from these guys. I found this one particularly moving:

https://tinyurl.com/yyqoca8o

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 25, 2019 11:49 AM (Zan64)

31 My dad landed at Omaha. Didn't talk much about his time in theater, but he had two Bronze stars and two Purple Hearts, among a bunch of other medals. I used to play with them as earrings when I was little. I have no idea what happened to them, as I was overseas when he passed away, and my family divvied up his stuff without me.

I do remember watching WWII movies with him, and he was always saying, "That's not how that happened." I wish he had told me what he had seen, but he never spoke of it.

God bless all who went in harm's way, and didn't make it out. God bless those who did make it out, and don't want to talk about it. God bless the families who support them.

Posted by: moki at May 25, 2019 11:49 AM (mFoNl)

32 My mother was a young woman, an RN, during WWII. She always had a soft spot for the Navy, she said. I know I asked why she didn't become a Navy nurse, but I don't remember what her reasons were.

My father was already too old to be drafted (?) -- he was born in 1909, so he was 32 when we got into the war. I don't k now why he didn't serve. Perhaps he had a health issue, or was involved in a crucial industry here.

As for yours truly, I luckily got passed over during that little party in SE Asia in the Sixties and Seventies, and a good thing, as I probably would have done something truly stupid and got myself and/or other people killed.

Still I appreciate what all these brave fellows gave up for us.

I'm having a clear bra put on my car (Kate Upton jokes, go right ahead) and may make a road run to one of the Cracker Barrel stores around here on Monday.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2019 11:50 AM (laXVK)

33 Way too early for the Book Thread, but what is THE best book about D-Day? I want to read one this summer.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 25, 2019 11:50 AM (NFEMn)

34 Not that we here need reminding, but we all likely know someone who does:

Please do not say "Happy Memorial Day." It's a time to reflect, honor, and give thanks to the men and women who died in service to the USA. Any "happiness" should be in that context.

Sorry to be a downer - just had a clerk at a store wish me a happy Memorial Day and it bugged me.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 25, 2019 11:51 AM (IfYaq)

35 https://tinyurl.com/Nuh-nuh-nancy

Posted by: Marooned at May 25, 2019 11:52 AM (8hRlF)

36 Heading over to San Diego - the beautiful Point Loma military cemetary, with my teen daughter. I've tried instilling in her the need to visit each Memorial Day. As a Navy vet it always brings a tear or two hearing the bugels play.

Posted by: Hayden Sterling at May 25, 2019 11:54 AM (sNzC+)

37 23- That is beautiful BitterClinger. Thank you for sharing.

Posted by: moki at May 25, 2019 11:54 AM (mFoNl)

38 A new documentary focusing on the Normandy stories from those who were liberated - "The Girl Who Wore Freedom" - https://www.normandystories.com/

Posted by: BillClen at May 25, 2019 11:54 AM (xT+Lj)

39 Posted by: Moshe Ben Avram at May 25, 2019 11:40 AM

Amen.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2019 11:54 AM (EgshT)

40 Way too early for the Book Thread, but what is THE best book about D-Day? I want to read one this summer.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 25, 2019 11:50 AM (NFEMn)


I'm partial to "Decision in Normandy" by Carlo D'Este. Not just D-Day, but obviously that's where it starts.

D'Este is American, and corrects a lot of the b.s. bias that the Brit writers have.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2019 11:54 AM (cY3LT)

41 Read Sgt. Day G. Turner's MOH citation....balls...big-uns.

Posted by: BignJames at May 25, 2019 11:55 AM (ykq7q)

42 My brother in law was raised on a farm in Michigan and he recently was saying that during WW 2 many German prisoners of war were sent to Michigann to work on farms. After the war a lot of them sent for their relatives and stayed here. As all I had ever heard about was how crummy our people were treated as prisoners of war I was pretty impressed by this.

Posted by: Chillin the most at May 25, 2019 11:56 AM (lonOK)

43 Inscription at the Normandy visitors center on the interior wall exit that leads to the cemetery:

https://tinyurl.com/yyqq4mxq

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at May 25, 2019 11:56 AM (tTLAA)

44 My FiL was a D-Day veteran so have besides a general interest in the battle have been trying to find out everything I can on his battalion. The last book I read helped a bit as it locates his unit.
The entire Omaha beach landing was a cock up from the get go, hardly no one landed where they were they were supposed to be and every step in the invasion line up was rushed faster than the time should have been.

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2019 11:56 AM (BbGew)

45 Thanks for the pics and words.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 25, 2019 11:56 AM (ty7RM)

46 SSGT Day G. Turner has his own wiki page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_G._Turner

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 25, 2019 11:56 AM (oVJmc)

47 Hayden Sterling

Please salute the grave of Capt Carroll LeFon; AKA Neptunus Lex for me, please.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2019 11:57 AM (u82oZ)

48
D'Este is American, and corrects a lot of the b.s. bias that the Brit writers have.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2019 11:54 AM (cY3LT)

The only thing my dad WOULD talk about vis a vis WWII was how much he hated the British, because they screwed over the US military. When I went to Hong Kong to teach, his parting words to me at the gate were "Don't you dare come home married to a Limey."

Posted by: moki at May 25, 2019 11:57 AM (mFoNl)

49 Been to Arlington National Cemetery once, many years ago. We are able to live our lives in peace, and visit Arlington, because of the sacrifices made by those brave souls.

Regarding the top item in the sidebar on how to stop being a man, at least the commenters on that site are also mocking it. Clearly it's just more enemy action, trying to soften up the younger men and make them easier targets.

We are right now living in the richest country in the wealthiest time of history ever. At some point in the future, all those self-reliant skills will be the difference between life and death. No civilization has ever lasted forever, and the current threats to civilization are still plotting our demise.

Posted by: Boots at May 25, 2019 11:57 AM (e9omi)

50 My guess is MN Rep. Ihan Zero will point out over the weekend that all the Memorials in DC are now RAYCSSST because of Trump, then AOC will probably chim in - especially the Lincoln Memorial since it has been since altered from its original appearance from the movie Planet Of The Apes # whatever.

Posted by: NOS4Ah2 at May 25, 2019 11:57 AM (WWS2B)

51 I just saw this on my Twatter feed:
The Supremes blocked Michigan and Ohio from gerrymandering their voting districts prior to 2020 elections.
9-0 decision.
Seems big.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 25, 2019 11:58 AM (ty7RM)

52 My deepest and humble gratitude to, not only those who gave all, but also their loved ones.

Also, while it looks like Mr. Avram and I served at the same time, I never "see the elephant."

To those of you who did, again, my sincerest thanks.

That means you Nam Grunt, should you be lurking.

Posted by: teej at May 25, 2019 11:58 AM (A3w0Q)

53 Little Winger did two tours in Iraq, and I have the gray hairs to prove it. He emailed me regularly, and when I asked him what he was doing that day, he would say stuff like, "Just hanging out at the cafeteria. Slow week."

Then I'd find out from his cousins that he was flying over Mujahadeen (sp?) territory at night, in a helicopter. I could've whupped his butt.

Everybody from his unit made it home. Four committed suicide afterwards.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2019 11:58 AM (lwiT4)

54 My dad's older brother fought in the Battle of the Bulge. My mom's older brother fought at Guadalcanal. Both gone. Both men.

Posted by: huerfano at May 25, 2019 11:59 AM (6e1eX)

55 53 {{{grammie winger}}}}

I am so glad he made it home. I am so so sorry for those four young people.

Posted by: moki at May 25, 2019 12:00 PM (mFoNl)

56 Four committed suicide afterwards.

Oh, man. Heartbreaking.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2019 12:02 PM (EgshT)

57 Posted by: NaCly Dog

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Will do.

Posted by: Hayden Sterling at May 25, 2019 12:02 PM (sNzC+)

58 51 I just saw this on my Twatter feed:
The Supremes blocked Michigan and Ohio from gerrymandering their voting districts prior to 2020 elections.
9-0 decision.
Seems big.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 25, 2019 11:58 AM (ty7RM)

Wow. Unanimous decisions usually mean one team or another screwed the pooch.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 12:02 PM (Ct55T)

59 Regarding the top item in the sidebar on how to stop being a man, at least the commenters on that site are also mocking it. Clearly it's just more enemy action, trying to soften up the younger men and make them easier targets.

Posted by: Boots at May 25, 2019 11:57 AM (e9omi)

One of my favorite comments was the guy who told the soyboi that home repairs was not only a vastly cost saving skill, but that the home decor skill was "self-indulgence".

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 12:03 PM (0Ntuf)

60 I just saw this on my Twatter feed:
The Supremes blocked Michigan and Ohio from gerrymandering their voting districts prior to 2020 elections.
9-0 decision.
Seems big.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 25, 2019 11:58 AM (ty7RM)

Is this good news?

Posted by: JoeF. at May 25, 2019 12:03 PM (NFEMn)

61 My father left Harvard in his freshman year in 1942 to enlist in the Army Air Corp, but a vision impairment washed him out. He then signed up for the US Merchant Marines and became the youngest officer in the service.

His Liberty and Victory ships were involved in every theater of the war, and his convoys were attacked en route to Russia and Africa.

Harvard awarded him an undergraduate degree anyway, then accepted him into the Business School. My father always loved Harvard for this. Harvard used to be a good and decent place.

He passed away in 2009.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 25, 2019 12:03 PM (H8QX8)

62 51 I just saw this on my Twatter feed:
The Supremes blocked Michigan and Ohio from gerrymandering their voting districts prior to 2020 elections.
9-0 decision.
Seems big.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 25, 2019
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Seems big to me also. Also 9-0, wow.

Posted by: NOS4Ah2 at May 25, 2019 12:03 PM (WWS2B)

63 59 Regarding the top item in the sidebar on how to stop being a man, at least the commenters on that site are also mocking it. Clearly it's just more enemy action, trying to soften up the younger men and make them easier targets.

Posted by: Boots at May 25, 2019 11:57 AM (e9omi)

One of my favorite comments was the guy who told the soyboi that home repairs was not only a vastly cost saving skill, but that the home decor skill was "self-indulgence".
Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 12:03 PM (0Ntuf)

hehe. They don't realize that they're only "softening up" their own side. Thanks for all the help, fellas.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 12:04 PM (Ct55T)

64 D'Este is American, and corrects a lot of the b.s. bias that the Brit writers have.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2019 11:54 AM (cY3LT)

The only thing my dad WOULD talk about vis a vis WWII was how much he hated the British, because they screwed over the US military. When I went to Hong Kong to teach, his parting words to me at the gate were "Don't you dare come home married to a Limey."
Posted by: moki at May 25, 2019 11:57 AM (mFoNl)


I'm sure the average British soldier was a standup fellow, probably most line officers as well, but the leadership was in many ways, gutless, living in fear of the Germans, perhaps rightly so in many respects.

I don't know, I don't have a wide enough knowledge of British performance in WWII, but the stuff I've read, much of which was written by and for the Brits and their fragile egos, seems to have a need to put down the American "contribution" to the war effort, and the need to pretend Monty was some sort of god who could do nothing wrong.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2019 12:04 PM (cY3LT)

65 62 51
Supremes blocked Michigan and Ohio from gerrymandering their voting districts prior to 2020 elections.
9-0 decision.
Seems big.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 25, 2019
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Seems big to me also. Also 9-0, wow.

Posted by: NOS4Ah2 at May 25, 2019 12:03 PM (WWS2B)
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So is this a good thing for electoral integrity? Or had these districts already been gerrymandered and somebody was trying to ungerrymander them?

Posted by: Boots at May 25, 2019 12:06 PM (e9omi)

66 The Supreme Court decision is just an injunction on the redistricting until they hear the cases next month. Doesn't mean much.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 25, 2019 12:09 PM (Zan64)

67 God Bless the souls of the vets who died in our ongoing neverending wars in the Middle East and other shitholes.

God damn the neo-con chickenhawks who gleefully sent them into those wars and mock the young people from the working classes that supplied those young people.

Does Cap'n Cuck really think those illegals he thinks should replace those "lazy Americans" will volunteer to fight in his wars?

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 12:09 PM (0Ntuf)

68 "I'm not very good at taking pictures...."

I beg to differ. Your pics are excellent!

Posted by: Tami at May 25, 2019 12:10 PM (cF8AT)

69 Four committed suicide afterwards.
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Oh, man. Heartbreaking.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2019 12:02 PM (EgshT)


I'm still not sure, and probably will never be, if suicide is always a mistake. I know it is always a tragedy, especially for survivors who care about the person who does it, but for that person often the tragedy is the life they lived up to the point of making their choice.

In that very real sense, for them, suicide is not the worst thing that could happen. Continuing to live is. Who am I to say they're wrong.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2019 12:11 PM (cY3LT)

70 You know that painting of a guy, in business dress, touching a name on the Vietnam Wall? You should try it if you have anybody close who served or you served with. You get a real, funny, bittersweet feeling.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 25, 2019 12:11 PM (iWluy)

71
SSGT Day G. Turner has his own wiki page.

It reads like the defense of the bridge scene in Saving Private Ryan.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 25, 2019 12:12 PM (TAmPV)

72 Wow. Unanimous decisions usually mean one team or another screwed the pooch.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 12:

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Not in this case. It's just a procedural thing to prevent states in question from proceeding prior to the cases being decided. 9-0 is normal here.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 25, 2019 12:12 PM (Zan64)

73 As I mentioned last night and in years previous, I invite the Horde to join me Monday at 6PM Pacific time for a toast to those who gave all.
This is a global event I started years ago that includes members of all Services and a few allies.
Raise a beverage if your choice.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 25, 2019 12:13 PM (p8GFp)

74 Holy crap. I just saw that the "obsolete manly skills" is an actual article written by an actual person and apparently not in jest.

"Instead of learning to hunt, learn to cook. Because there is already ample meat available in clean styrofoam wrappers at the grocery store."

"Increasingly, electric cars, public transit, and cycling are becoming more attractive options for environmental reasons, and ride-sharing or car-sharing services mean the link between being in a car and being responsible for its functioning is as tenuous as it's ever been."

Go ahead and tell me which one of those is real.

Posted by: Moron Robbiemando at May 25, 2019 12:13 PM (EOEiY)

75 >>"I'm not very good at taking pictures...."


Penis Portraiture is not as easy as it looks.

Posted by: Carlos Danger at May 25, 2019 12:13 PM (38BXL)

76 The Supremes blocked Michigan and Ohio from gerrymandering their voting districts prior to 2020 elections.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 25, 2019 11:58 AM (ty7RM)

Not really....

https://www.scotusblog.com

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 25, 2019 12:14 PM (wYseH)

77 Diogenes, count me in.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 25, 2019 12:15 PM (IfYaq)

78 If DJT does attend a Sumo wrestling tournament, as suggested in the sidebar, the MSM will unanimously start shrieking about how he violated some precious Japanese cultural norm.
They will be wrong.
Their stupidity will be mocked by actual Japanese people.
They will not acknowledge their stupidity.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at May 25, 2019 12:15 PM (JgA4k)

79 Gerrymandering is only allowed if it helps Democrats.

This stuff is in the Constitution, people!

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 25, 2019 12:15 PM (38BXL)

80 One of my favorite comments was the guy who told the soyboi that home repairs was not only a vastly cost saving skill, but that the home decor skill was "self-indulgence".

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 12:03 PM (0Ntuf)

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I'm taking a break from laying tile to read this. Probably a $4K job that I'll have $600 or so in.

Posted by: Moron Robbiemando at May 25, 2019 12:15 PM (EOEiY)

81
"Instead of learning to hunt, learn to cook. Because there is already ample meat available in clean styrofoam wrappers at the grocery store."

And when that happens men will have no awareness of where meat comes from.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at May 25, 2019 12:17 PM (JgA4k)

82 My Dad only spoke once about his service with 1MARDIV as a FMF Corpsman in Korea. It was at the very end of the action at the Vegas-Reno-Carson outposts and was very ugly. The Chinese wanted to take those hills to smooth out a bump in the Main Line of Resistance. The 5th Marines had folded elements of the 7th Marines into their ranks on Vegas and Reno as the 5th had been chewed over pretty badly. Units were formed and reformed a number of times on the fly with whomever was available and lots of folks were bureaucratically 'lost'. Organizationally, regiment, battalion, and company designations were all screwed up and damn near meaningless.

Dad was wounded twice and then medivaced to Naval Hospital Yokuska.

A day or two after his arrival, a Navy Lt. nurse was interviewing him and asked if he would tour a ward that was full of wounded Marines but arrived as "unknowns". Many of the wounded had lost their dogtags and IDs and were in no shape to ID themselves.

He did and spied a SGT that he knew. He had suffered a grievous head wound and was in a coma. The poor man's face was grotesquely swollen and unrecognizable but Dad saw his very distinctive tattoo. The Navy had the SGT as MIA but Dad ID'd him to the nurse. Dad never saw him again.

Long after the war, maybe in the early 90's Dad, with my help, looked into what became of the wounded SGT. Official records indicated SGT Albert Metis, USMC died of wounds shortly after Dad saw him in the ward. Dad loved that guy - "One of the toughest Marines I ever knew."

God speed SGT Metis.



Posted by: Tonypete at May 25, 2019 12:18 PM (Y4EXg)

83 Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 12:09 PM (0Ntuf)

Spot on. And worse, I sincerely believe now, after observation over the years, that one side (primarily the Democrat Socialists) really does not want us to ever have another military success. They don't mind committing our troops to a crap job, then enforce suicidal RoE, underfund the VA, and fail to support the troops in general.

WWII: Unconditional Surrender after a Declaration of War

Everything since: weasel words, police actions, authorized use of force, blah, blah...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 25, 2019 12:18 PM (AZxMX)

84 79 Gerrymandering is only allowed if it helps Democrats.

This stuff is in the Constitution, people!
Posted by: Joe Biden
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Posted by: NOS4Ah2 at May 25, 2019 12:18 PM (WWS2B)

85 Greetings:

Back in the summer of the last '68, I was doing my military service down in Texas, which, besides the Bronx, is the place I'd most like to be from. For several months, I was assigned to the base's funeral detail. We would provide pallbearers and a rifle squad for those requesting military funerals in the local area.

Military-wise, it wasn't bad duty. On the days when we weren't scheduled for a funeral, we would spend several hours practicing our "drill & ceremonies" and a couple more squaring away our uniforms and equipment. On funeral days, we would head out as early as necessary on a 44-passenger bus, often in civilian clothes or else fatigues with our first-class uniforms and equipment in tow. Often we would change into our duty uniforms at the funeral home, once in the casket display room, or on the bus itself.

It being Texas and the Viet Nam war being in full swing, we often had several funerals a week to perform. There was a certain spectrum from the World War graduates through the Viet Nam casualties. The former might involve a local veterans' group and an afterward BBQ or such. The latter were somewhat more emotionally raw as most of us were facing our own deployments in the near future.

Two funerals of the latter sort have stayed with me through the years. The first was of a young Private First Class who had been MIA for several months before his remains were recovered. I was on the pallbearer squad that day and when we went to lift the casket, it almost flew up in the air. There was so little of the young soldier left that we totally overestimated the weight we were lifting and almost looked decidedly unprofessional.

The other was that of a Negro Specialist 4th Class. I was in the rifle squad that day. In the rendering of military honors, there is a momentary pause between the end of the (21-gun) rifle salute and the beginning of the playing of "Taps". It is a moment of profound silence in most cases. During that moment, the young soldier's mother gave out a yowl from the depths of her grief that so startled me that I almost dropped the rifle out of my hands. That yowl echoes within me still.

I'll readily admit that, as a result of my experiences, I became much imbued with a sense of duty and respect to and for our fallen. Hopefully, today, when our media do their reporting they will show some of the same and let "Taps" be played out in its entirety. It would be nice for a change.

Posted by: 11B40 at May 25, 2019 12:18 PM (evgyj)

86 >>I'm taking a break from laying tile to read this. Probably a $4K job that I'll have $600 or so in.


I like laying tile. Layout is my favorite part...

But - You can't pay me enough to grout the shit.

Posted by: garrett at May 25, 2019 12:18 PM (38BXL)

87 By the way, Monday is my 50th anniversary of missing the prom, only to meet the reception committee at Parris Island, SC. Never knew I was a (a) stinking maggot, (b) pig fucker, (c) idiot asshole and a slew of other compliments hurled at me by the three tenors.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 25, 2019 12:18 PM (iWluy)

88 And when that happens men will have no awareness of where meat comes from.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at May 25, 2019 12:17 PM (JgA4k)

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I'm familiar with this excellent phenomenon, which is commonly called "surprise anal."

Posted by: Shep! at May 25, 2019 12:19 PM (Zan64)

89 And when that happens men will have no awareness of where meat comes from.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at May 25, 2019 12:17 PM (JgA4k)

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A lot of people have already lost that connection. My daughter doesn't hunt but I made her help with some of the less gross parts of butchering a deer a few years ago so that she can appreciate that something has to die every single time we live one more day.

Posted by: Moron Robbiemando at May 25, 2019 12:19 PM (EOEiY)

90 Wanted to pop in for a tad with a PSA.

If you have a service connected disability of 10% or more, you can get a lifetime National Park Service Lifetime Access Pass. For free.

Apply at the usual locations, and bring robust photo iID and a letter from the VA.

Now back to chores.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2019 12:20 PM (u82oZ)

91 Dad visited Korea 1950-51. Never really spoke much about it. Hit a land mine in a jeep and didn't get a scratch. He's been gone 2 years now, made it to 85. Still full of piss and vinegar.
I visited England several years ago. Walked through American cemetary , read so many markers. The most poignant were those that said 3 or 4 or 5 or men known only to God. It's an incredibly powerful feeling standing there surrounded by so many markers of those who gave the ultimate sacrifice....

Posted by: Edward Lunny at May 25, 2019 12:20 PM (80+RF)

92 Thank you, KT, for a sobering, and inspiring, Memorial post.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for vids blog at May 25, 2019 12:20 PM (rPjB9)

93 I do remember watching WWII movies with him, and he was always saying, "That's not how that happened." I wish he had told me what he had seen, but he never spoke of it.

My father used to do that all the time. He'd yell, "SPREAD OUT, GODDAMNIT!" whenever the actors would bunch up in a scene.

He was in the Fourth Marine Division, in the operations on Saipan, Tinian, Roi Namur, and Iwo Jima, where he landed on 19 February on Beach Yellow 2, and where he later received a battlefield commission when his company suffered 85% casualties. He stayed in the Marine Corps, which sent him to college and OCS, and he retired as a full colonel after putting in 30 years.

He's been gone some years now, but I think of him every day.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 12:21 PM (+VZS9)

94 I like laying tile. Layout is my favorite part...

But - You can't pay me enough to grout the shit.

Posted by: garrett at May 25, 2019 12:18 PM (38BXL)

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The trick is to not really know what you're doing. I find it makes most jobs less stressful.

Seriously, though, I kind of like don't mind it nearly as much as laying shingles or sod, but I wouldn't want to do it for a living. Except I can appreciate that a man could make a fine living at it, and $4K for a couple of days work would be nice once you got your name out as the best in town.

Posted by: Moron Robbiemando at May 25, 2019 12:21 PM (EOEiY)

95 My Wife has her Mom and Dad both interned (is that the right word) at Arlington in the special place that have set up for ashes. Her Mom was a WW II nurse so she got in on her own merits. It was the most beautiful Funeral that I have ever seen, because of rank she got a band and the Caisson with those gorgeous Horses. She always loved Arlington and wanted to be buried there. I found out that she could have her ashes intuned there. Her Bother and Sister-In-Law are buried there.

Funny Story on the way to the Funeral my Idiots of Brothers in Laws decided to film his trip (the two drove in a separate car) over the Bridge which included the Pentagon and a Black SUV came out of nowhere and pulled them over. So they get pulled over and my Wife is like pull behind the Black SUV they can't miss the Funeral. I am like Hell NO it will make things worse and we might miss. Thank God they gave me their Mom's Ashes the night before, The Pentagon Police made them erase the footage and they were nearly late to the Funeral, the Kicker is that my he had his 45 in the trunk and he could have been thrown in jail or who knows what.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 25, 2019 12:22 PM (dKiJG)

96

Was graciously invited to march in 2 parades this weekend. This is the 3rd year.

I get to wear the Class A's with all the authorized stuff--have to admit it is a proud feeling.

This weekend is always a mixture of sorrow, pride and overwhelming gratitude.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 25, 2019 12:22 PM (KATBx)

97 If you have a service connected disability of 10% or more, you can get a lifetime National Park Service Lifetime Access Pass. For free.

Apply at the usual locations, and bring robust photo iID and a letter from the VA.

Now back to chores.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2019 12:20 PM (u82oZ)

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IIRC those let you camp at federal campgrounds for free or cheap (duh, feds) but also Corps of Engineer locations, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbiemando at May 25, 2019 12:23 PM (EOEiY)

98 44 My FiL was a D-Day veteran so have besides a general interest in the battle have been trying to find out everything I can on his battalion. The last book I read helped a bit as it locates his unit.
The entire Omaha beach landing was a cock up from the get go, hardly no one landed where they were they were supposed to be and every step in the invasion line up was rushed faster than the time should have been.
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2019 11:56 AM (BbGew)


Even the best battle plan goes down the tubes once the first shot is fired. That is true of every era, every war.

You have no idea the confusion and mayhem that is sown when other people are trying their damndest to kill you.

That's why training and leadership is so important.

Posted by: Sooner at May 25, 2019 12:23 PM (Fs5vw)

99 Never knew I was a (a) stinking maggot, (b) pig fucker, (c) idiot
asshole and a slew of other compliments hurled at me by the three
tenors.


heh

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2019 12:23 PM (EgshT)

100 I cannot think of anything that has not been said millions of times, May they all be in paradise now, and their fight not have been in vain.

Posted by: willow at May 25, 2019 12:23 PM (r/xAU)

101 Please, no more sacrifices for the middle East. They don't deserve our sons & fathers.

Posted by: Quilp at May 25, 2019 12:24 PM (4dX7C)

102 Creepy Uncle Joe is right, as long as the Democrats are the ones doing it. That's what the whole Pennsylvania case was about, Republicans suck at gerrymandering so we will get a Leftist to show you how it's done.

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2019 12:25 PM (BbGew)

103 This weekend is always a mixture of sorrow, pride and overwhelming gratitude.

Well said. Thanks.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2019 12:25 PM (EgshT)

104 78 If DJT does attend a Sumo wrestling tournament, as suggested in the sidebar, the MSM will unanimously start shrieking about how he violated some precious Japanese cultural norm.
They will be wrong.
Their stupidity will be mocked by actual Japanese people.
They will not acknowledge their stupidity.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at May 25, 2019 12:15 PM (JgA4k)

Didn't they do that last time when he was feeding koi? He had a container of food and was sprinkling it in and at the end dumped the container into the water as his host had before him. All the Media showed was him dumping the container along with mocking commentary, "Oh, look at dumb Trump dumping the food. He's such an embarrassment!"

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at May 25, 2019 12:26 PM (jp0Bv)

105 I have been to that cemetery In Lux very pretty and from what I was told the Local Schools will come out and clean, Cut grass etc and learn what these boys did so that they are free.

A half a mile away is the German cemetery and it's different not as well kept up and it screams these men died for nothing.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 25, 2019 12:26 PM (dKiJG)

106 >>The trick is to not really know what you're doing. I find it makes most jobs less stressful.


Every man in my family was in the trades. I find the key is not letting others know that you do, in fact, know what you are doing!

Pro Tip : Final Polish of the grout should be done with a wad of insulation.
Wear a glove and use the fiberglass to lift the haze left behind from the frst few passes. Replace with a fresh piece as soon as it gets matted/dirty.
Then vac.
Then Mop.

Posted by: garrett at May 25, 2019 12:26 PM (38BXL)

107 and their fight not have been in vain.
Posted by: willow at May 25, 2019 12:23 PM (r/xAU)


We must protect the liberties for which they died.

Posted by: Emmie Oakley at May 25, 2019 12:26 PM (4HMW8)

108 Posted by: 11B40 at May 25, 2019 12:18 PM (evgyj)

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Powerful.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 25, 2019 12:26 PM (bDC2M)

109 Family lost a good man int the trenches of France back in Dubya Dubya ONE. May your memory be eternal, Raymond. Thank you for your sacrifice.

Posted by: Screw you you know who U are at May 25, 2019 12:27 PM (N5huT)

110
And celebrating once again that it's not President Hillary who will be appearing at ANY of our military observances. Can you imagine that phony with her chin all lifted at the 75th anniversary of D-Day? And the press talking about Her Dignity etc.

Not being negative! Just thankful.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2019 12:27 PM (oGNNA)

111 Spot on. And worse, I sincerely believe now, after observation over the years, that one side (primarily the Democrat Socialists) really does not want us to ever have another military success. They don't mind committing our troops to a crap job, then enforce suicidal RoE, underfund the VA, and fail to support the troops in general.


I think so, too. In fact, I'm even more cynical: I think that they don't just not mind our getting involved in adventures, but that they actively want us involved in "quagmires," the better to agitate here at home.

Recall how the Reds wanted us to go into Rwanda, but not Afghanistan or Iraq. For them, Rwanda would have been perfect. We had exactly zero strategic interest in Rwanda, and intervening would necessarily have involved killing some Africans, a propaganda bonanza for the Reds.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 12:27 PM (+VZS9)

112 No one told me it's lunch time!

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2019 12:28 PM (BbGew)

113 We must protect the liberties for which they died.
And if we fail in that mission, it's on us.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2019 12:28 PM (EgshT)

114 >>No one told me it's lunch time!


Ace doesn't eat lunch. Or, food really.

Posted by: garrett at May 25, 2019 12:28 PM (38BXL)

115 Skip, it's lunch time!

Posted by: Tonypete at May 25, 2019 12:28 PM (Y4EXg)

116 I appreciate this being posted here, but I need to take a break from reading this.

God Bless these fine men and women!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 25, 2019 12:29 PM (AZxMX)

117 This weekend is always a mixture of sorrow, pride and overwhelming gratitude.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 25, 2019 12:22 PM (KATBx)

Perfectly expressed.

Thank you irongrampa!

Posted by: Tami at May 25, 2019 12:29 PM (cF8AT)

118 Pro Tip : Final Polish of the grout should be done with a wad of insulation.
Wear a glove and use the fiberglass to lift the haze left behind from the frst few passes. Replace with a fresh piece as soon as it gets matted/dirty.
Then vac.
Then Mop.

Posted by: garrett at May 25, 2019 12:26 PM (38BXL)

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Interesting. Thanks.

Posted by: Moron Robbiemando at May 25, 2019 12:29 PM (EOEiY)

119 Thursday when we went to the movies my dad noticed the scouts at the cemetery putting flags on veterans graves.

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2019 12:30 PM (BbGew)

120 I'm taking a break from laying tile to read this. Probably a $4K job that I'll have $600 or so in.

Posted by: Moron Robbiemando at May 25, 2019 12:15 PM (EOEiY)

So many of those Obsolete Man-Skills can save so much money that the millennial soybois always complain they never have enough of because "student loans".

If there's one skill not taught to the soybois and soygurlz that is vital, it's learning how to budget a household. Learning to prioritize what is necessary and what is indulgence. They seem to think paying for housing, utilities, transport, food, and clothing is unfair and that the necessities are caramel lattes, the newest i-phones, the hippest clothes, and the trendiest craft beers. Donkey-Chompers spews out those very complaints which is why someone so stupid has a seat in Congress and a cult following.

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 12:31 PM (0Ntuf)

121 Didn't they do that last time when he was feeding koi? He had a container of food and was sprinkling it in and at the end dumped the container into the water as his host had before him. All the Media showed was him dumping the container along with mocking commentary, "Oh, look at dumb Trump dumping the food. He's such an embarrassment!"
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at May 25, 2019 12:26 PM (jp0Bv)

If you can the Japanese have a good history of Donald Trump, its on Youtube and they show that his Dad made him go and Collect rent from lower Income tenants. If you don't think he has some blue collar in him after doing that. It's funny because they show a Young Don getting trash thrown on him while trying to collect rent. The Asian's respect him more than the West.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 25, 2019 12:31 PM (dKiJG)

122
I do remember watching WWII movies with him, and he was always saying, "That's not how that happened." I wish he had told me what he had seen, but he never spoke of it.

My father used to do that all the time. He'd yell, "SPREAD OUT, GODDAMNIT!" whenever the actors would bunch up in a scene.



My father served aboard a destroyer in the Pacific during WWII and growing up the favorite WWII movie in the household was Away All Boats because it had a shot of his destoyer in one of the battle scenes DD643 USS Sigourney.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 25, 2019 12:32 PM (TAmPV)

123 Hey Tonypete. Lets go to the Sunrise on E Market in Warren for a good pizza and maybe a panzerotti!

Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 25, 2019 12:32 PM (iWluy)

124 Hard to believe that the next mortal enemy we may face will most likely be the one within.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2019 12:32 PM (EgshT)

125 So many of those Obsolete Man-Skills can save so much money that the millennial soybois always complain they never have enough of because "student loans".

If there's one skill not taught to the soybois and soygurlz that is vital, it's learning how to budget a household. Learning to prioritize what is necessary and what is indulgence. They seem to think paying for housing, utilities, transport, food, and clothing is unfair and that the necessities are caramel lattes, the newest i-phones, the hippest clothes, and the trendiest craft beers. Donkey-Chompers spews out those very complaints which is why someone so stupid has a seat in Congress and a cult following.
Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 12:31 PM (0Ntuf)

I don't think you can repair any NEW car without computer skills.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 25, 2019 12:34 PM (dKiJG)

126 If there's one skill not taught to the soybois and soygurlz that is vital, it's learning how to budget a household. Learning to prioritize what is necessary and what is indulgence.

This.

We taught our sons to distinguish "need" from "want."

Another skill: how to do for yourself. Not everything, of course, but there are lots of things you can do for yourself.

Our younger son is home from college, and I'm going to be showing him how to rescreen a screen door later today. Not a big deal, but representative of the attitude.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 12:34 PM (+VZS9)

127 Our Veterans Go Hungry and Homeless, Yet Lawbreakers Are Given Shelter

https://tinyurl.com/y4p8raeh

Posted by: SMH at May 25, 2019 12:36 PM (RU4sa)

128 My Memorial Day music video celebrating the lives of those who died from Port Chester NY and the parades of just 40-50 years ago. They are gone now.

https://youtu.be/DiXlakwHfhM

Posted by: Chris Cassone at May 25, 2019 12:37 PM (wAf3/)

129 Ask a soiboi this question. Why would anybody forget a skill? I bet hilarity will be an understatement.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 25, 2019 12:37 PM (iWluy)

130 11B40
Cannot read that without tears in my eyes.
Well served.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 25, 2019 12:37 PM (0tfLf)

131 Flag's up. First!

Posted by: 40 miles north at May 25, 2019 12:38 PM (o2vOl)

132 So many good men (and many women) lost to save us from a few tyrants. The US fared better than most nations, but now we have a new crop of tyrant wannabes ... seeking thought control via social media and lawfare. We have our battles to fight domestically now ... don't need civil war, just need to stop some oligarchs in the system.


I had several uncles that served in WW2 but all came home safely. All too easy to forget those that never returned to raise families.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 25, 2019 12:38 PM (Cus5s)

133 Sorry to be a downer - just had a clerk at a store wish me a happy Memorial Day and it bugged me.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 25, 2019 11:51 AM (IfYaq)

I understand the issues, but what *should* we say?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 25, 2019 12:38 PM (uquGJ)

134 For several months, I was assigned to the base's funeral detail. We would provide pallbearers and a rifle squad for those requesting military funerals in the local area.
Posted by: 11B40 at May 25, 2019 12:18 PM (evgyj)


Funeral detail in Groton CT, waiting for the next class to start, was an amazing experience. I wouldn't trade that for anything.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 25, 2019 12:38 PM (t+qrx)

135 97 degrees outside. I had to come in. Maybe I should ditch the yardwork skills.

Posted by: freaked at May 25, 2019 12:38 PM (UdKB7)

136 Haven't read all the comments yet, so might have been mentioned already... 2 MoH recipients and one woman nurse in Luxembourg Cemetery. The pics I took of the other markers have my little one in them, tracing the names with finger.

The inside of the chapel ceiling is beautiful. Look online as my pics were not good.

Workers were using manicure scissors to trim lawn, paintbrushes to clean off the walls with names.

Posted by: Euro at May 25, 2019 12:39 PM (n2WE8)

137 I understand the issues, but what *should* we say?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 25, 2019 12:38 PM (uquGJ)

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Have an enjoyable weekend?

Posted by: SMH at May 25, 2019 12:39 PM (RU4sa)

138 We buried my dad on Thursday. He was in Vietnam in a Military Intelligence unit callled the Joint Technical Advisory Detachment, of which there is little information, then the 101st Airborne Division's MI Company. He went on to serve in law enforcement for 45 years.

The Department where he worked for 26 of those years gave him an Honor Guard tribute outside the church, including a bag piper, taps, and a volley from the honor guard rifle squad. A folded flag of the city was presentes to my mother.

He was buried at a National Cemetary where he receives similar honors from the Army and VFW. It was all very moving, and a very important part of the funeral process to my family..

Posted by: Elliot at May 25, 2019 12:40 PM (1PAtI)

139 124 Hard to believe that the next mortal enemy we may face will most likely be the one within.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2019 12:32 PM (EgshT)


And it's going to be a lonely stand. There won't be vast armies as there was before. Most of the battles will in parking garages, food markets, or in the living room in your own home. It's going to be the ultimate test for individual freedom.

Posted by: Sooner at May 25, 2019 12:40 PM (Fs5vw)

140 Our Veterans Go Hungry and Homeless, Yet Lawbreakers Are Given Shelter

https://tinyurl.com/y4p8raeh

Posted by: SMH at May 25, 2019 12:36 PM (RU4sa)


{{{SMH}}}

If that article doesn't calibrate our "betters" for you, you are a lost cause!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 25, 2019 12:41 PM (AZxMX)

141 133 Sorry to be a downer - just had a clerk at a store wish me a happy Memorial Day and it bugged me.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 25, 2019 11:51 AM (IfYaq)

I understand the issues, but what *should* we say?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 25, 2019 12:38 PM (uquGJ)

Their sacrifice was made so that we can be happy.

So you damn well better be happy!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 12:41 PM (Ct55T)

142 Euro

Thank you so much for sharing these pictures.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2019 12:41 PM (u82oZ)

143 If there's one skill not taught to the soybois and soygurlz that is vital, it's learning how to budget a household. Learning to prioritize what is necessary and what is indulgence.
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I think a lot of people KNOW how to do this, but don't have enough impulse control to make it happen.
At least that was the case with me when I was younger.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 25, 2019 12:41 PM (NFEMn)

144 I don't think you can repair any NEW car without computer skills.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 25, 2019 12:34 PM (dKiJG)

Sure you can. In fact, actual "computer skills" like programming or hardware repair, are all but useless. Plugging in a scanner, and reading the trouble codes off a screen is not a "computer skill".

But you don't even need that to do an oil change, or replace a timing belt, or stick in a new set of brake pads.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2019 12:42 PM (7njPr)

145 @ 111

In keeping with that statement, I would like to say that I wish the Dems would take their "support" for our troops and shove it until they choke on it.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 25, 2019 12:42 PM (KATBx)

146 But you don't even need that to do an oil change, or replace a timing belt, or stick in a new set of brake pads.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2019 12:42 PM (7njPr)

Some people need to know computer skills enough to play a youtube video....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 12:44 PM (Ct55T)

147 One of the funniest comments on the "Obsolete Man Skills" article:

"8. Getting angry and getting a divorce when your wife cheats on you. Instead, get to know your wife's new boyfriend."

Posted by: Moron Robbiemando at May 25, 2019 12:46 PM (EOEiY)

148 ' I don't think you can repair any NEW car without computer skills. '

I will do most anything on any of my vehicles, from 1957 to 2017. I won't have a car I can't work on, and I won't let anyone else work on my cars, except for maybe installing new tires.

Posted by: freaked at May 25, 2019 12:46 PM (UdKB7)

149 138 - My condolences to you & your family.

Posted by: josephistan at May 25, 2019 12:46 PM (Izzlo)

150 I got renewed faith in the French a couple of years ago while visiting Normandy Cemetary during one of their (The French) school holidays. Those 13-18 year old French kids showed more respect at the flag lowering ceremony than anywhere el've ever seen.

Posted by: Dempsy at May 25, 2019 12:47 PM (JBIFM)

151 Posted by: Elliot at May 25, 2019 12:40 PM

Quite similar to my own father's service. It was indeed moving and helped to provide a tiny bit of closure. Very sorry for your loss.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2019 12:47 PM (EgshT)

152 Asians still respect a good work ethic... Trump has that.

Posted by: lin-duh in keto at May 25, 2019 12:47 PM (UUBmN)

153 I'm trying to think of any new car that has had a computer problem where someone tried to track down the individual component inside the part or figure out what was wrong with the code.

What DOES happen is people slap a code reader in, it points them in a general direction, and you go look up the number in a search engine before replacing the part with a new one.

Posted by: Moron Robbiemando at May 25, 2019 12:47 PM (EOEiY)

154 Becoming more helpless and dependent on others isn't a survival tactic, dipshits.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 25, 2019 12:48 PM (oVJmc)

155 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2019 12:42 PM (7njPr)

Not that I now, or would ever, own a BMW, but I saw a post that had an extract from the BMW maintenance manual that described how to reset the on-board computer for new brake pads. It did not seem to be anything BUT a dealer job!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 25, 2019 12:48 PM (AZxMX)

156 I don't think you can repair any NEW car without computer skills.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 25, 2019 12:34 PM (dKiJG)

Oil change, serpentine belt replacement, battery replacement, bulb replacement, and refilling coolant do not require computer skills. Soyboi mentioned "replacing an alternator" (surprised he knew what an alternator is) which doesn't require computer skills but which very little room under the hood in today's cars it isn't as easy as the old days.

I'd say the only really obsolete skill with a car is rebuilding or replacing a carburetor unless you're into restoring classic cars.

Even in the old days if you had to work with a car's wiring, that was something a smart backyard mechanic would leave to the pros unless you liked the horn blowing every time you stepped on the brakes.

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 12:49 PM (0Ntuf)

157 153 I'm trying to think of any new car that has had a computer problem where someone tried to track down the individual component inside the part or figure out what was wrong with the code.

What DOES happen is people slap a code reader in, it points them in a general direction, and you go look up the number in a search engine before replacing the part with a new one.
Posted by: Moron Robbiemando at May 25, 2019 12:47 PM


They don't have these problems in Cuba.

Posted by: Sooner at May 25, 2019 12:49 PM (Fs5vw)

158
Becoming more helpless and dependent on others isn't a survival tactic, dipshits.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 25, 2019 12:48 PM (oVJmc)


It's like the car insurance commercial where two teenage boys are calling mom because they have a flat tire and don't know what to do.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 25, 2019 12:50 PM (TAmPV)

159 WOW !

Great post !


Thanks to all who commented.

Posted by: JT at May 25, 2019 12:50 PM (iwgjb)

160 Thanks for the touching pictures, Euro.

Posted by: Surfperch at May 25, 2019 12:50 PM (tVQUs)

161 If you have the opportunity to go to Luxembourg or Bastogne, go. Who knows how long they will remain. But I know my kids will never forget

Posted by: Euro at May 25, 2019 12:51 PM (n2WE8)

162 I posted this earlier this week....it's a sweet video:

Kids track down their 85-yr-old dad's war buddy whom he hasn't seen or heard from in 60+ yrs. Their dad's reunion, embrace and reaction is precious.

https://tinyurl.com/yytaknuo

Posted by: Tami at May 25, 2019 12:51 PM (cF8AT)

163

With modern cars, the fun starts when that code reader is plugged and it spits a code.

With few exceptions, all it does is id a system with a fault--NOT the specific part.

It's up to the tech to diagnose the entire system affected, other wise it's an expensive adventure with no real guarantee of success.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 25, 2019 12:52 PM (KATBx)

164 111 Recall how the Reds wanted us to go into Rwanda, but not Afghanistan or Iraq. For them, Rwanda would have been perfect. We had exactly zero strategic interest in Rwanda, and intervening would necessarily have involved killing some Africans, a propaganda bonanza for the Reds.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 12:27 PM (+VZS9)
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Yeah, Somalia and Black Hawk Down. Which brought thousands of worthless somalis like Ilhan I Hate America here to America. To destroy us here at home.

Posted by: Boots at May 25, 2019 12:52 PM (e9omi)

165 158 There you go. Calling home in the event of a flat tire (providing the spare was OK) would be an introduction to The Belt.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 25, 2019 12:53 PM (iWluy)

166 It's like the car insurance commercial where two teenage boys are calling mom because they have a flat tire and don't know what to do.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 25, 2019 12:50 PM (TAmPV)


I made sure all my kids, including Daughter H knew the basics of car maintenance, including changing a tire and changing the oil. Once daughter got a decent job, she found a good mechanic and never touched a wrench again.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 25, 2019 12:53 PM (AZxMX)

167 What DOES happen is people slap a code reader in, it points them in a general direction, and you go look up the number in a search engine before replacing the part with a new one.
Posted by: Moron Robbiemando at May 25, 2019 12:47 PM (EOEiY)


If something's wrong in x module, replace that module.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 25, 2019 12:54 PM (t+qrx)

168 And it's going to be a lonely stand. There won't be vast armies as
there was before. Most of the battles will in parking garages, food
markets, or in the living room in your own home. It's going to be the
ultimate test for individual freedom.


I sincerely hope it never comes to that. I will do my part, but I'm on the North side of 29. I fear more for the young people in my family and circle of friends. They are in no way prepared for what is surely to come.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2019 12:55 PM (EgshT)

169 Yeah, Somalia and Black Hawk Down. Which brought thousands of worthless somalis like Ilhan I Hate America here to America. To destroy us here at home.

Posted by: Boots at May 25, 2019 12:52 PM (e9omi)


My movie review of Black Hawk Down was that if you did not hate politicians with the heat of the sun after watching that, I didn't need to know you!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 25, 2019 12:55 PM (AZxMX)

170

Arlington - Bernard Herrmann (conductor), Bernard Herrmann Ensemble

https://youtu.be/WxgL3bVhdwE

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2019 12:55 PM (aKsyK)

171 I don't want to take away the fact that decent, honorable and brave men and women are among those buried in various military cemeteries around the globe, but I can't help but think that other than to those foreigners who benefited from their sacrifice, if they died in vain.

I fully salute the Colonists who fought Great Britain to form the Greatest Nation on Earth, even those who secured the West from Mexico and the aboriginals. We all benefit.

But since at least Wilson, the US Military hasn't really been this country's military, but rather a global police force to violently advance the interests of those who completely and totally hate America and wish her nothing but ill will; we are trillions of dollars in debt, oceans of spilled blood and hospitals and cemeteries filled with the casualties of the questionable policies of feckless and corrupt politicians and their grifters in the dark crevices of this world.

Scattered among those in today's "US" military are probably some of the best character of people, I don't deny that, but it is increasingly difficult with each passing day to see today's military as nothing more than an organized and well funded strike force that exists only for the sake of advancing the interests of those who want me plundered and dead.

For example, why is our border left wide open while we are sending military assets into the Persian Gulf?

Why, when Germany and Europe hate us and want to debase our economy, overthrow our elections and side with our enemies, do we continue to plunder US taxpayers to put our military at risk defending these ungrateful reprobates?

I look at our military, in toto, and see a profoundly expensive and dysfunctional bullying force that does absolutely nothing to preserve American lives or freedom.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at May 25, 2019 12:56 PM (lD3vL)

172 A good OBD code reader can tell you a lot more than just the codes. You are able to see the values coming off the sensors which can help you interpret what is going on, if you know what to expect. The better ones will also record data and make a snapshot of all the parameters when the code is generated. Like anything though, you have to know what the data you are looking at means to be able to do anything with it.

Posted by: freaked at May 25, 2019 12:58 PM (UdKB7)

173 I fear more for the young people in my family and circle of friends. They are in no way prepared for what is surely to come.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2019 12:55 PM (EgshT)


I despise the politicians who are still selling out my kids, and now my grand-kids as well, so they can stay in office, to pass preferential legislation for themselves, all the while collecting their CoC and graft checks.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 25, 2019 12:58 PM (AZxMX)

174 For example, why is our border left wide open while we are sending military assets into the Persian Gulf?

Why, when Germany and Europe hate us and want to debase our economy, overthrow our elections and side with our enemies, do we continue to plunder US taxpayers to put our military at risk defending these ungrateful reprobates?

I look at our military, in toto, and see a profoundly expensive and dysfunctional bullying force that does absolutely nothing to preserve American lives or freedom.


Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at May 25, 2019 12:56 PM (lD3vL)
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I agree and am likewise puzzled. The military should serve the homeland, not the interests of the global cabal who rely on pax Americana enforced by working class young men & women from America. Which class is always looked down upon by the very people in the global elite who benefit from the ultimate sacrifices made by these fine young people. Commenter up above said the same thing, but I concur. We wouldn't need to wait on a wall if we had barb wire and US armed forces on the border.

Posted by: Boots at May 25, 2019 01:01 PM (e9omi)

175 Years ago I gave up on buying a new-ish Porsche Boxster after learning that they didn't have a dipstick to check the oil.

Posted by: Moron Robbiemando at May 25, 2019 01:01 PM (EOEiY)

176

@ 171


That's pretty fucking snide and condescending.

Why don't you go park that and I'll scroll you and you can return the favor.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 25, 2019 01:02 PM (KATBx)

177 And it's going to be a lonely stand. There won't be vast armies as there was before.

Actually, there will be.

The "US" military is not for We The People, but are tools of violence to perpetuate the power of the Deep State.

The various governors and politicians will use the "US" military, in whatever means necessary to quell any uprising and sustain their grip on power.

We will look like Venezuela, with eighteen year olds gunning us down just so they can get their food pellet and keep the corrupt politicians in power.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at May 25, 2019 01:02 PM (lD3vL)

178 Not that I now, or would ever, own a BMW, but I saw a post that had an extract from the BMW maintenance manual that described how to reset the on-board computer for new brake pads. It did not seem to be anything BUT a dealer job!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 25, 2019 12:48 PM (AZxMX)

Heh. I have to go look up a Ewetoob video in order to reset the oil change reminder on my '08 Suburban. But it doesn't need a scan tool to do it. And I still write the oil change date and mileage on a piece of masking tape, and stick it on the door jamb.

You know, I would like to see some "right to repair" legislation that reads like this: "You sell an automobile (or any major durable good), you also must include with it the right to freely access, download and print out all current service manuals with updates, service notes, and parts catalogs etc." That right of access is attached to the product itself, and passes to any subsequent lawful owner. And after X number of years, the source code for all embedded software and firmware in the product must also be released to the public. (Apply that to computer operating systems, too!)

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2019 01:03 PM (7njPr)

179 My Memorial Day music video celebrating the lives of those who died from Port Chester NY and the parades of just 40-50 years ago. They are gone now.

https://youtu.be/DiXlakwHfhM
Posted by: Chris Cassone at May 25, 2019 12:37 PM (wAf3/)
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Chris, what a nice video. Thank you for sharing it with us. I want to say I have seen it here before - have I?

And - did you ever marry your girlfriend?

Posted by: bluebell at May 25, 2019 01:03 PM (aXucN)

180 Blue Bird of Joy,

Don't you dare underestimate us. There's more of us than the REMFs and ski bois

Posted by: Euro at May 25, 2019 01:04 PM (n2WE8)

181 Sidebar story about moar jew targeting. Germany ministry of truth says 20% rise in antisemitic attacks last year, blaming 90% of attacks on far-right and a shout out to massive increase of Muslim immigrants and bad vids

Posted by: A dude in MI at May 25, 2019 01:05 PM (OOH1c)

182 It's up to the tech to diagnose the entire system affected, other wise it's an expensive adventure with no real guarantee of success.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 25, 2019 12:52 PM (KATBx)

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Other than dirty pictures, I think the internet has been most useful for mechanics and DIYers. It's nice to be able to search for a video of exactly the angle to tip the door handle of a 2007 Camry in order to replace the electric window mechanism without needing to remove the entire piece.

(this is just an example and I don't have that car or know if it's the case. I'm just pointing out how great it is to be able to learn certain things from others' experiences. See also garrett and the tile comment above)

Posted by: Moron Robbiemando at May 25, 2019 01:05 PM (EOEiY)

183
For all of those who gave their lives for our country
Eternal rest grant unto them, O Lord,

and let perpetual light shine upon them.

May they rest in peace.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2019 01:05 PM (AhZVt)

184
Is Haley Joel Obama still seeing those that we honor on Memorial Day?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2019 01:06 PM (AhZVt)

185 Euro, thank you for the beautiful photos of the Luxembourg Cemetery. I'm glad you got a chance to go there.

And KT, thanks to your nieces for the DC photos.

And thanks to those who gave their all, that we might be free.

Posted by: bluebell at May 25, 2019 01:06 PM (aXucN)

186 It would be interesting to know the amount of professional repair time and money DIY videos have saved with info from other DIYers in videos and forums since 2005 or so.

Posted by: Moron Robbiemando at May 25, 2019 01:07 PM (EOEiY)

187 Even in the old days if you had to work with a car's wiring, that was
something a smart backyard mechanic would leave to the pros unless you
liked the horn blowing every time you stepped on the brakes.


In my case, that might be a useful feature these days.

Posted by: Captain Ahab at May 25, 2019 01:07 PM (hu22E)

188 *sock fail*

Posted by: The Eponymous Hugh Tootooie at May 25, 2019 01:07 PM (hu22E)

189 If something's wrong in x module, replace that module.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 25, 2019 12:54 PM (t+qrx)

Most often, it's a sensor related to the module in question that fails. The sensors are out there in the trenches, so to speak, exposed to road hazards and high temperatures, pressures, etc. Modules tend to be pretty robust, and well-protected. Classic example: the oxygen sensors, screwed right into the exhaust pipe.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2019 01:08 PM (7njPr)

190 /hand salute

to absent comrades

/end salute

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 25, 2019 01:08 PM (Dkm+q)

191 Nood garden

Posted by: Emmie Oakley at May 25, 2019 01:08 PM (4HMW8)

192 I understand the issues, but what *should* we say?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 25, 2019 12:38 PM (uquGJ)

I usually wish friends a thoughtful or contemplative Memorial Day.

So many sheepdogs in my family... It was only a few years ago that my mom was able to get my dad to find a high school buddies' name on the Vietnam Wall. He served in the Marines (enlisted before he could be drafted), and was an embassy guard in Switzerland for a couple of years, so Vietnam era service, but no time in Vietnam. He lost several friends.

And then uncles and great uncles in WW2, spread all over from Alaska, to the day after D-Day, Cavalry training, to Battle of the Bulge... They all came home. The picture of the stone of the Pennsylvanian KIA in the Battle of the Bulge sent me on a google to try to find the unit of my great uncle from PA who was also there; I found his picture on a page put together by his son - hoping to find out more.

Posted by: LadyLil at May 25, 2019 01:09 PM (MYU35)

193
Even in the old days if you had to work with a car's wiring, that was something a smart backyard mechanic would leave to the pros unless you liked the horn blowing every time you stepped on the brakes.
my case, that might be a useful feature these days.

Posted by: Captain Ahab at May 25, 2019 01:07 PM (hu22E)


Oh the joys of trying to find a short in the wiring under the dash.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 25, 2019 01:09 PM (TAmPV)

194 Years ago I gave up on buying a new-ish Porsche Boxster after learning that they didn't have a dipstick to check the oil.
Posted by: Moron Robbiemando
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I've related this before. I watched a Tesla with a flat tire being loaded up on an AAA truck.

"Why?", I asked. "Because it doesn't come with a spare", replied the mid-sixtyish woman owner.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 01:09 PM (xSo9G)

195 I Live here Bluebell... been waiting until kids were old enough to appreciate the uniform and the sacrifices. Glad we saw when we did. Kidlet 2 got to have a good convo with one of the last WWII vets, who knew he probably couldn't make it back for the 75th in a few months

Posted by: Euro at May 25, 2019 01:10 PM (n2WE8)

196 Yesterday my wife and I visited the memorial cemetery at Nettuno where I paid respects to my grandfather's squad leader who died ten feet from pops on the beaches of anzio.

Posted by: Defenestratus at May 25, 2019 01:10 PM (igMHG)

197 It's like the car insurance commercial where two teenage boys are calling mom because they have a flat tire and don't know what to do.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 25, 2019 12:50 PM (TAmPV)


Grrrrrr. Those two clowns should be gelded, so they cannot reproduce.

Not only can they not change a tire (!), but they have to call Mommy to extract them from their predicament. They can't call AAA themselves? I'd tell them to figure out what to do, or walk home.

Having said that, I've shown my sons how to change a tire. Could they do it on their own? I dunno. I hope so.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 01:11 PM (+VZS9)

198 Heh. I have to go look up a Ewetoob video in order to reset the oil change reminder on my '08 Suburban. But it doesn't need a scan tool to do it. And I still write the oil change date and mileage on a piece of masking tape, and stick it on the door jamb.

--

If I'm shopping for used cars and one of the potential picks has the fluid capacities written in paint pen under the hood I'll usually buy it right there on the spot. I like folders full of records and receipts, but that's a step ahead of what most people do.

Posted by: Moron Robbiemando at May 25, 2019 01:11 PM (EOEiY)

199 They aren't "scattered among" our armed forces.

To be sure, our politicians and many of their politicized officers in our Pentagon misuse our military for unAmerican reasons pretty much all the time.

The troops and field officers they send into battle are the ones who pay the highest price for their treasonous selfishness.

They are not bullies. They're patriots who put it all on the line for love of country, and don't deserve blame for the calumny of our worthless leadership.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 25, 2019 01:12 PM (ZerXS)

200 The "US" military is not for We The People, but are tools of violence to perpetuate the power of the Deep State.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at May 25, 2019 01:02 PM (lD3vL)
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bite me.

this comment is beyond offensive.

Posted by: redc1c4, recently retired US Army at May 25, 2019 01:12 PM (Dkm+q)

201 My guess is MN Rep. Ihan Zero will point out over
the weekend that all the Memorials in DC are now RAYCSSST because of
Trump, then AOC will probably chim in - especially the Lincoln Memorial
since it has been since altered from its original appearance from the movie Planet Of The Apes # whatever.

Posted by: NOS4Ah2 at May 25, 2019 11:57 AM (WWS2B)


Yup, you can bet those miserable bitches hate holidays that honor our country or those who serve it.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2019 01:12 PM (AhZVt)

202 Don't you dare underestimate us. There's more of us than the REMFs and ski bois

I certainly hope so.

It just kills me to see so much wasted life defending those who hate us for doing it while we are racking up literally trillions of debt and losing our borders.

Again, I'm sure that there are foreigners who are alive today because of the "US" military. I don't know if they are grateful for it or are resentful because people are generally assholes.

I look at Iraq, Afghanistan and wherever else the "US" military maintains endless and pointless adventures, and what I hear is mostly ungratefulness and contempt.

And now we are begging for trouble in the Straits of Hormuz and there isn't a single person who can give a reason why it is a reason to kill American soldiers, potentially lose ships, certainly stir the shit and stoke hatred and anger at Americans.

Its like the politicians want to do things with the "US" military to put more American lives in jeopardy by keeping the borders open to allow the Iranians in, have my tax money used to ship them around the country then put an aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf to give them a rallying point to perform mischief.


Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at May 25, 2019 01:12 PM (lD3vL)

203 Having said that, I've shown my sons how to change a tire. Could they do it on their own? I dunno. I hope so.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 01:11 PM (+VZS9)
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Yes. I've done it, back in my early twenties, and I'm a chick. Of course, I can also parallel park.

Posted by: bluebell at May 25, 2019 01:13 PM (aXucN)

204 "Why?", I asked. "Because it doesn't come with a spare", replied the mid-sixtyish woman owner.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 01:09 PM (xSo9G)

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I despise the new fix-a-flat approach to spare tires.

"But we "saved" 0.042 mpg on all of these new cars by reducing the weight!"

Sure, if you don't account for producing, manning, driving, etc. the tow trucks and the excess fuel burnt by each party on the associated trips no one would have needed to make.

Hooray.

Posted by: Moron Robbiemando at May 25, 2019 01:14 PM (EOEiY)

205 Oh the joys of trying to find a short in the wiring under the dash.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 25, 2019 01:09 PM (TAmPV)


"Lessee, there's a parasitic drain on the battery, and through measuring the parasitic current while extracting fuses I've tracked it down to someplace in the dashboard. Oh God ..."

An afternoon spent prone or upside down underneath a dashboard - not fun.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 01:14 PM (+VZS9)

206 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2019 01:03 PM (7njPr)


Sorry mate, you'll never own the software for anything every again if the tech boys have their way.

But I agree with you 100%!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 25, 2019 01:14 PM (AZxMX)

207 Yes. I've done it, back in my early twenties, and I'm a chick. Of course, I can also parallel park.
Posted by: bluebell at May 25, 2019 01:13 PM (aXucN)


Are you really a chick, or do you just identify as one? I'm beginning to wonder ... /kidding

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 01:15 PM (+VZS9)

208 Yes. I've done it, back in my early twenties, and I'm a chick. Of course, I can also parallel park.

Posted by: bluebell at May 25, 2019 01:13 PM (aXucN)


And you did all that without a tactical spork, good on ya!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 25, 2019 01:15 PM (AZxMX)

209 Shooting at BROWARD County mosque... red on red...
https://twitter.com/ABC13News/status/
1131957761477107714

Yesterday morning. Gee, I wonder why no coverage of this anywhere? TV news chyron here mentioned shooting in a NJ bar last night (I assume) but not this.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 25, 2019 01:16 PM (Dh1wo)

210 this comment is beyond offensive.

I understand that you have a romantic notion of what the "US" military is for.

I never have condemned categorically those upstanding American citizens who are part of the military. Rather, their honor is something worthy of praise.

Nonetheless, can you identify anything the "US" military has done (outside of developing/maintaining a nuclear deterrent against the Second World) that can objectively demonstrated to be consistent with securing the freedom and liberty of We The People?

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at May 25, 2019 01:16 PM (lD3vL)

211
Not only can they not change a tire (!), but they have to call Mommy to extract them from their predicament. They can't call AAA themselves? I'd tell them to figure out what to do, or walk home.


Yeah,they're calling her on a smartphone where they could easily go to Youtube and watch a video on how to change a tire.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 25, 2019 01:17 PM (TAmPV)

212 Yes. I've done it, back in my early twenties, and I'm a chick. Of course, I can also parallel park.
Posted by: bluebell at May 25, 2019 01:13 PM (aXucN)


My wife's car had a flat about a year ago, when I put the toy tire on so we could take the flat in for repair. She wanted to see how it was done, but again, as with the boys, I'm not sure she could do it on her own. She'd certainly be game to try, though.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 01:17 PM (+VZS9)

213 Euro at May 25, 2019 12:39 PM

What amazing additional details about that cemetery!

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 25, 2019 01:17 PM (BVQ+1)

214 Oh the joys of trying to find a short in the wiring under the dash.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 25, 2019 01:09 PM (TAmPV)

--

If you've never read any of Peter Egan's books then I recommend a visit to the library soon. Here is one of his that gets passed around a lot:

https://bit.ly/2HAF1AR

"Two-Ton Hydraulic Engine Hoist: A handy tool for testing the tensile strength of ground straps and hydraulic clutch lines you may have forgotten to disconnect. "

Posted by: Moron Robbiemando at May 25, 2019 01:18 PM (EOEiY)

215 The Gardening Thread is up. But you can hang around here this afternoon, too.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 25, 2019 01:18 PM (BVQ+1)

216 Euro - My thanks also. I've visited several National Cemeteries, and always walk among the stones looking at names. There is always a lot of pollen, it seems.

My G-grandfather (23rd Michigan Infantry) is buried at Cave Hill National Cemetery, a beautiful place.

http://tinyurl.com/yymaqds5

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 01:18 PM (xSo9G)

217 Most often, it's a sensor related to the module in question that fails. The sensors are out there in the trenches, so to speak, exposed to road hazards and high temperatures, pressures, etc. Modules tend to be pretty robust, and well-protected. Classic example: the oxygen sensors, screwed right into the exhaust pipe.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2019 01:08 PM (7njPr)


You can isolate a sensor and test it. My point was that there's no debugging a module; it's a swap-out, not at all like fixing a computer.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 25, 2019 01:18 PM (t+qrx)

218 Sorry mate, you'll never own the software for anything every again if the tech boys have their way.

--

You try to work on your car and have to watch a 30 second ad on the radio display in order to get the ignition switch to work for two minutes.

Posted by: Moron Robbiemando at May 25, 2019 01:19 PM (EOEiY)

219 Had to change a tire on the old '72 3/4 ton chevy pu. Split rims. Made kidlet stand about 60 feet away. Needles to say, replaced all tires and rims shortly thereafter.

Posted by: Infidel at May 25, 2019 01:19 PM (xzK3J)

220 Why do you keep putting "US" military in scare quotes?

Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2019 01:20 PM (lwiT4)

221 One thing that can make my eyes roll over is anything, especially from Europeans is the term Right Wing, you have no idea who they are talking about be it Leftist brothers Socialists, someone not buying into their idea of no borders, or someone slightly conservative.

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2019 01:20 PM (BbGew)

222 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2019 01:03 PM (7njPr)

There's a somewhat related notion in patent law called "patent exhaustion," which I believe holds that once you've paid the patent holder for something, you own it, and the patent holder has no further rights in the product, including its repair or maintenance.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 01:20 PM (+VZS9)

223 The Gardening Thread is up. But you can hang around here this afternoon, too.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 25, 2019 01:18 PM (BVQ+1)

-

I (and I think others, too) almost view the gardening thread in a somewhat sacred and respectful way. I'm reluctant to clog it up with discussions about old cars and guns.

Plus I really need to get back to being productive.

Thanks for what you do, btw.

Posted by: Moron Robbiemando at May 25, 2019 01:21 PM (EOEiY)

224

Sure I can id something the military has done consistent with securing the freedom of We The People.

How about selflessly ensuring your privilege to be as much of an asshole that no one can stand with no consequence to yourself?

Posted by: irongrampa at May 25, 2019 01:21 PM (KATBx)

225 Yeah,they're calling her on a smartphone where they could easily go to Youtube and watch a video on how to change a tire.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic
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My god...is this what we have been reduced to?

Smartphone?

Youtube?

To change a damned wheel?

This country needs fewer smartphones and many, many, more Erector sets.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 01:22 PM (xSo9G)

226 'spose I should go accomplish something. Been lurking and tearing up on this thread for hours.

Posted by: Infidel at May 25, 2019 01:22 PM (xzK3J)

227 My wife's car had a flat about a year ago, when I put the toy tire on so we could take the flat in for repair. She wanted to see how it was done, but again, as with the boys, I'm not sure she could do it on her own. She'd certainly be game to try, though.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 01:17 PM (+VZS9)

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I bet she could. I had only been taught how to do it years before, I had never done it myself before I had to. And no internet or smartphones or cell phones at all in those days!

I did have to stand on the wrench to get the lug nuts to move, though.

Posted by: bluebell at May 25, 2019 01:22 PM (aXucN)

228 You can isolate a sensor and test it. My point was that there's no debugging a module; it's a swap-out, not at all like fixing a computer.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 25, 2019 01:18 PM (t+qrx)

Which is why I said computer skills are useless for fixing a car. And the dealership mechanics can do that swap-out for free, just to see if it works, because they have the parts department there. You and I cannot do that, because "no returns on electrical parts".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2019 01:23 PM (7njPr)

229 Beautiful pictures, Euro. Thank you.

Posted by: IC at May 25, 2019 01:24 PM (fiC74)

230 Memorial Day is for remembering those who fell serving their country but more important serving their squad members to the left and right of them when they did.

Let's leave the politics out of it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 25, 2019 01:26 PM (Z+IKu)

231 I bet she could. I had only been taught how to do it years before, I had never done it myself before I had to.

I did have to stand on the wrench to get the lug nuts to move, though.
Posted by: bluebell at May 25, 2019 01:22 PM (aXucN)


I hope you're right, and think you probably are.

Removing the lug nuts can be a bitch, no question, because the pros use an impact driver to put them on.

Of course, when I was taking them off, I used an impact driver too!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 01:26 PM (+VZS9)

232 Why "US" and not US?
The more it is repeated in (scare?) quotes, the more it stands out

Posted by: barbarausa at May 25, 2019 01:27 PM (W7IZQ)

233 Which is why I said computer skills are useless for fixing a car.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2019 01:23 PM (7njPr)


*blinkblink*

I think we might be agreeing past each other.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 25, 2019 01:27 PM (t+qrx)

234 I look at our military, in toto, and see a profoundly expensive and dysfunctional bullying force that does absolutely nothing to preserve American lives or freedom.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy
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Fine. But, just as a matter of curiosity, how much time are you personally investing in preserving American lives and freedom?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 01:28 PM (xSo9G)

235 Looking at the Obsolete Man-Skills article...

Hearing that some soybois want to try "Organic Farming"

Sorry, I can't hold my laughing in or my teeth will explode..

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 01:30 PM (0Ntuf)

236
look at our military, in toto, and see a profoundly expensive and dysfunctional bullying force that does absolutely nothing to preserve American lives or freedom.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy


Especially when they're delivering distaster relief in far off foreign lands.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 25, 2019 01:30 PM (TAmPV)

237 Oh and Jay, I also used to change the oil in my car when I lived in a place where I could do so.

I do identify as a chick, but I was also born one with all the proper parts belonging thereto.

Posted by: bluebell at May 25, 2019 01:30 PM (aXucN)

238 Hearing that some soybois want to try "Organic Farming"

Sorry, I can't hold my laughing in or my teeth will explode..
Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 01:30 PM (0Ntuf)


Oh, how hard could that be? It's probably a lot easier than the other kind, right?

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 25, 2019 01:31 PM (t+qrx)

239 Removing the lug nuts can be a bitch, no question, because the pros use an impact driver to put them on.
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Only because the tire-busters down at Tire City keep their impact wrenches set at 150 ft/lbs.

Multiple times I have pointed out to the shop managers that their guys are way-overtightening the lugs.

With alloy wheels, I always *watch* as they hand torque the wheels per my spec. Retired people have the time on their hands to be a pain in the ass.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 01:32 PM (xSo9G)

240 All I know is that after 9/11, my son said to me "If I don't go, who will?" I guess I'll have to break it to him gently that he served in the "US" military.


As one of my friends said to me at the time, "What a waste...." I never thought I'd find that here.



Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2019 01:33 PM (lwiT4)

241 From everyone describing this skills to lose link I'm glad I didn't

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2019 01:33 PM (BbGew)

242 I'm feeling grumpy today.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 01:33 PM (CDGwz)

243
Changing a flat is one of those things that you (anyway, I) do so rarely that I can't remember the procedure for the next time. I've had one flat tire in my life, and I do a lot of driving. By the time I have another flat, the procedure for fixing it will probably be different. How many people have memorized the procedure for making lemon meringue pie, or changing their Google password?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2019 01:33 PM (oGNNA)

244 Looking at the Obsolete Man-Skills article...

Hearing that some soybois want to try "Organic Farming"


My disgust at that article and its authoress knows no bounds. What a pussy. Implicit throughout his article is that putative males (the "Ask Men" rubric on that site is a fraud) can rely on actual men to do all those icky things, while give each other makeovers, wax each other's chests, and blub about their emotions.

In this respect this clown is as intellectually dishonest as a pacifist, who is too holy to fight, but not too holy to let someone else fight for him.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 01:34 PM (+VZS9)

245 On Memorial Day, I always go to the Wall site, look up a few people I knew, and pick a name or two at random and read their record (or at least that tiny portion of it captured there), and then I stand back in awe of these many many men and women that gave all for us! It is uplifting and sad at the same time.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 25, 2019 01:35 PM (AZxMX)

246 I saw this poignant letter in the Visitor's Center at the American Cemetery at Colleville-sur-mer when I visited in 2004. It is a letter from the President of France, Rene Coty, upon the dedication of that cemetery in 1956.
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18 July, 1956

MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC
at the Dedication of the American
Military Cemeteries in France.

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Twelve years have passed since that Spring daybreak when the soldiers of the young and free America landed on our shores to deliver our older Europe from oppression.

The tombs where they rest have made American these French acres which have become shrines for their countrymen and for ours. Today, distinguished Americans have come on a solemn pilgrimage. I send them my most cordial greetings.

These young men who sleep their last sleep here have earned in history their places in the first rank of conquerors. When the survivors returned home the Dead remained together, in brotherhood, as they were in battle. Let us ponder the great lessons which we learn from their tombs.

They are here in such great numbers only because from the very first day of its terrifying ambition, tyranny did not meet the united front of the democratic peoples. To restore to us a world in which one could live has demanded that so many young twenty-year old men should lay down their lives. Just as their fathers in the first war, they died primarily for their own Country but also for all of those countries which love liberty; particularly, they gave their lives for our France whose sons in a former day also crossed the Atlantic, at the call of American independence.

We don not forget, we shall never forget, the infinite debt of gratitude that we owe to those who have given all for our freedom. Today, here, only the the unison of those tragic and glorious hours can be remembered. In bowing before the sacred tombs, the President of the Republic brings the affectionate greetings of the French people, the tribute of our faithful friendship, and the gratitude of the entire Nation.

Rene COTY.

Posted by: AndrewSanDiego at May 25, 2019 01:36 PM (zr3uM)

247

Our family has been involved with the military since the Revolutionary War.

We span all the Branches and the service runs the gamut from one and done to a career.

The condescension and outright hatred is nothing new to most of us, we've heard it before.

Most times I can shake my head and ignore, guess not this time.

I'm out--please have a suitable Memorial Day, all.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 25, 2019 01:36 PM (KATBx)

248 How about selflessly ensuring your privilege to be as much of an asshole that no one can stand with no consequence to yourself?

Posted by: irongrampa at May 25, 2019 01:21 PM (KATBx)

priceless

Posted by: BignJames at May 25, 2019 01:36 PM (ykq7q)

249 A bit late to the car repair party.

My Mercedes W204 can be a bit of a pain to work on, but research and the right scanner tool makes it easier. MBZ has a proprietary system so to use the OBD stuff you need something that speaks Techie German otherwise you get gibberish.

I do all my own Service A, B, etc. Self reliance is a way of life, I think.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 25, 2019 01:37 PM (IfYaq)

250 I did have to stand on the wrench to get the lug nuts to move, though.
Posted by: bluebell at May 25, 2019 01:22 PM (aXucN)

You raise a good point. Lug nuts on my Suburban are torqued to 160 foot-lbs. There is no guarantee that the crappy factory lug wrench will safely bust them loose, especially after a winter or two on salted roads.

Likewise the vehicle jack provided by the manufacturer is rarely good for much.

I recommend buying a two-foot long half-inch drive breaker bar, and a deep impact socket of the size suited to your wheel lugs, and carry that in the car. If the vehicle jack is not sturdy, and convenient to use, get an after-market jack, too.

The breaker bar makes an excellent self-defense weapon, too.

In my trucks and Suburbans, I usually carry a small air compressor that plugs into the lighter socket, and also a tire plug kit. So I can air up a flat, and plug the nail hole without removing the tire, or even having to jack the vehicle.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2019 01:37 PM (7njPr)

251 Only because the tire-busters down at Tire City keep their impact wrenches set at 150 ft/lbs.

Multiple times I have pointed out to the shop managers that their guys are way-overtightening the lugs.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 01:32 PM (xSo9G)


True, and a good point. That's why when we got the car back, I broke out the impact driver again, loosened the lug nuts, then tightened them again. Next time I have to remove the lug nuts I might not have an impact driver to hand.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 01:38 PM (+VZS9)

252 Thanks, irongrampa. I think I'll call it a day as well.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2019 01:38 PM (lwiT4)

253 Changing a flat is one of those things that you (anyway, I) do so rarely that I can't remember the procedure for the next time.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2019 01:33 PM (oGNNA)


There's nothing to remember. If you know that lug nuts hold the wheel on, and that the jack will lift the car, it's as technically demanding as putting a new faceplate on a light switch. If you forget to loosen the nuts before lifting the car, the fact that the wheel is spinning freely will remind you.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 25, 2019 01:38 PM (t+qrx)

254 For the DIYers, also definitely invest in a good impact wrench. DeWalt makes a damned fine battery powered one that has yet to meet a bolt it couldn't crack.

I don't remember what I paid for it but every weekend I'm glad I ponied up.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 25, 2019 01:39 PM (IfYaq)

255 242 I'm feeling grumpy today.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 01:33 PM (CDGwz)

Hey, back off!

Posted by: Grumpy at May 25, 2019 01:40 PM (0Ntuf)

256 Posted by: irongrampa at May 25, 2019 01:36 PM (KATBx)

Thanks!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 25, 2019 01:41 PM (AZxMX)

257 Reading the stories on Clapper and Brennan decrying PDJT order to declassify the pertinent documents anchoring the coup attempt is delightful. I recommend it to everyone who could use a rueful laugh.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2019 01:41 PM (Z216Q)

258 Only because the tire-busters down at Tire City keep their impact wrenches set at 150 ft/lbs.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 01:32 PM (xSo9G)


Here's another one: swapping out the sacrificial anode on a water heater. (Something I also showed my sons how to do.) The first time on a given water heater is a bitch, because they tighten the bejesus out of the fitting. It took a breaker bar with a three foot length of steel pipe on the handle, and a six-point socket,* and a great deal of fluent Anglo-Saxon to get the damned loose.

*Forget a 12-point socket. There was no way that could grip well enough. Ask me how I know.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 01:41 PM (+VZS9)

259 254 For the DIYers, also definitely invest in a good impact wrench. DeWalt makes a damned fine battery powered one that has yet to meet a bolt it couldn't crack.

I don't remember what I paid for it but every weekend I'm glad I ponied up.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 25, 2019 01:39 PM (IfYaq)


One of my favorite tools. That, the sawzall, and a cordless drill are the Big Three.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 01:43 PM (+VZS9)

260 232 Why "US" and not US?
The more it is repeated in (scare?) quotes, the more it stands out
Posted by: barbarausa at May 25, 2019 01:27 PM (W7IZQ)

I'm far too hungover to analyze things properly, but the most charitable interpretation i've come up with is that it's a general lament that the Military as a whole is not being used to defend America as intended, but to go dick around trying to "make the world a better place", which is a fool's errand.

Noble, sure, but yeah. I don't want our military to make the world a better place. I want them to make the world scared shitless of ever getting on our bad side.

If we do start pissing about with Iran, I want them smashed, annihilated, and scrubbed from the timeline of history. I want the Islamic Republic regarded as a tragic yet trivial addendum on the arc of Persian history writ large.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 01:43 PM (Ct55T)

261 18 July, 1956

MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC
at the Dedication of the American
Military Cemeteries in France.
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Yeah...then Charles DeGaulle, ten years later, "Get out! And, oh oui, we're quitting NATO too! Because, we are France!"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 01:43 PM (CDGwz)

262 With alloy wheels, I always *watch* as they hand torque the wheels per my spec. Retired people have the time on their hands to be a pain in the ass.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 01:32 PM (xSo9G)

One thing my tire guys taught me: with alloy wheels, a layer of corrosion can build on the back side of the wheel where it seats on the hub. Change a wheel, and that layer of corrosion is disturbed, and partly crushed when the wheel is reinstalled. The it crumbles further, and the wheel becomes loose as a result. With alloy wheels, always buff the oxide off the seating surface before remounting it. A wire wheel will do a good job of that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2019 01:43 PM (7njPr)

263 Jay, yep. My very minor regret is being the guy my neighbors call when they need one of those three.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 25, 2019 01:44 PM (IfYaq)

264 There's nothing to remember. If you know that lug nuts hold the wheel on, and that the jack will lift the car, it's as technically demanding as putting a new faceplate on a light switch. If you forget to loosen the nuts before lifting the car, the fact that the wheel is spinning freely will remind you.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 25, 2019 01:38 PM (t+qrx)


I told my wife the trick: jack up the car a bit, to take most of the weight off the wheel, but not all of it, leaving enough weight on it so that it won't turn when you crank on the lug nuts.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 01:44 PM (+VZS9)

265
Yeah...then Charles DeGaulle, ten years later, "Get out! And, oh oui, we're quitting NATO too! Because, we are France!"
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Dean Rusk famously asked DeGaulle, "And should we take our dead also?"

DeGaulle stood up and walked away without answering.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 01:45 PM (CDGwz)

266 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2019 01:37 PM (7njPr)

I second the dedicated breaker bar and deep (six point) socket recommendation. I also think standing on the factory lug wrench is not a good idea.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 25, 2019 01:45 PM (AZxMX)

267
I always carried a can of Liquid Wrench in the spare tire compartment for stubborn lugs

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 25, 2019 01:46 PM (TAmPV)

268
I do all my own Service A, B, etc. Self reliance is a way of life, I think.
Posted by: WitchDoktor

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It depends on what you consider worth your time/money. For Thanksgiving, I make pumpkin pies out of actual pumpkins with a homemade crust and my kitchen-averse mother says "Why didn't ya just buy one?" -- and she means from the cheap-ass section of the grocery store, not even from a bakery. (Then she eats the pie and she's glad I didn't.)

When it comes to car repair and many home repairs, I spend the money, not the time. There are professionals who know it way better than I do. Thank God they're interested in that sort of thing, because I'm just not.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2019 01:46 PM (oGNNA)

269 Alberta, I am even more fussy - after pulling the wheel (and especially the rotor) I'll scrape it clean and then put anti seize on it.

I had to buy a rotor puller a few years ago to service a 15 year old minivan that had the original rotors. Thing needed so much torque to break loose that I was nervous.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 25, 2019 01:47 PM (IfYaq)

270 "In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved, and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields."


It is a beautiful day today here, and I hope it is as lovely where irongrampa marches in his parade.
He's never dropped the torch, thank God.
May we never

Posted by: barbarausa at May 25, 2019 01:47 PM (W7IZQ)

271 263 Jay, yep. My very minor regret is being the guy my neighbors call when they need one of those three.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 25, 2019 01:44 PM (IfYaq)


I have a buddy (another chemist, one that I post-doc'ed with back when Lavoisier was active) who is also into DIY, and we loan tools back and forth. But that's reciprocal, and so no problem.

Phone call: "Hey, have got a ______?"

"Sure. I'll bring it over."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 01:48 PM (+VZS9)

272 DeGaulle stood up and walked away without answering.

Silence from the French. How wonderful.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2019 01:49 PM (Z216Q)

273 It is for exactly the reason We do not want our fathers, mothers and children sent in vain or vainglorious attempts to pocket graft and assets from war, but to only do so in righteous cause!

to point out with One Progressive administration away from letting OUR loved ones be killed for their less than righteous causes.

My fkn 2 cents.

and still prayers for all mine , all yours that fought righteously for all of us everyday, until this day !

Posted by: willow at May 25, 2019 01:49 PM (r/xAU)

274 I think we might be agreeing past each other.

I said something like that to a guy once and he said "we're in vehement agreement".

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at May 25, 2019 01:49 PM (fuK7c)

275 For the DIYers, also definitely invest in a good impact wrench. DeWalt makes a damned fine battery powered one that has yet to meet a bolt it couldn't crack.

I don't remember what I paid for it but every weekend I'm glad I ponied up.
Posted by: WitchDoktor
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As the old saying goes, I have something better than that, I have a convivial neighbor who has always-borrowable pneumatic tools.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 01:49 PM (CDGwz)

276 I told my wife the trick: jack up the car a bit, to take most of the weight off the wheel, but not all of it, leaving enough weight on it so that it won't turn when you crank on the lug nuts.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 01:44 PM (+VZS9)

If I do have to change a wheel, I bust the lug nuts loose before jacking it at all. The wheel won't fall off. Then jack it up, and undo them the rest of the way. And don't attempt to fully tighten until the wheel is back on the ground, and the jack removed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2019 01:49 PM (7njPr)

277 in sorrow that this even has to be mentioned on this day of all days, while we mourn our own.

Posted by: willow at May 25, 2019 01:50 PM (r/xAU)

278 Currently watching Legion of Brothers on Hulu, which is about the early days of OEF, as told by the spec ops.

Posted by: SMH at May 25, 2019 01:51 PM (RU4sa)

279 260, Warai otoko, understood that, just did not understand the repetitive quoting of only "US", as if it were not something real?
Some meaning, since the multi repeat, but not getting it.
Probably just as well--rather remember how lucky I am this weekend, and pray for those who died and those who most intimately miss them

Posted by: barbarausa at May 25, 2019 01:51 PM (W7IZQ)

280 I told my wife the trick: jack up the car a bit,
to take most of the weight off the wheel, but not all of it, leaving
enough weight on it so that it won't turn when you crank on the lug
nuts.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 01:44 PM (+VZS9)

+++That really sounds like an excellent idea.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 25, 2019 01:51 PM (EjlXc)

281 254 For the DIYers, also definitely invest in a good impact wrench. DeWalt makes a damned fine battery powered one that has yet to meet a bolt it couldn't crack.


That's the one I have, too, and I love it. It's especially useful for cracking bolts in really awkward places where it's difficult to apply much torque to a socket wrench. Ten seconds with the impact driver, and voila! Done.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 01:52 PM (+VZS9)

282 Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 01:43 PM (Ct55T)

I have a lot of respect for the US military, far less for politicized flag officers, but almost none for "US" politicians, especially those that don't understand Unconditional Surrender.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 25, 2019 01:52 PM (AZxMX)

283 Would it be a good thing to allow the Military to essentially veto actions it didn't agree with?

I'm not saying they should be allowed to "go rogue" and do whatever they like, but some sort of safety mechanism where the Joint Chiefs can simply tell the President, "No. We're not going to do that, that's a terrible idea."

I mean, they could *always* do that, but they'd be jailed or court martialed almost certainly. ... right?

anyway, it's a problem as old as armies themselves, i guess.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 01:53 PM (Ct55T)

284
There's nothing to remember. If you know that lug nuts hold the wheel on, and that the jack will lift the car, it's as technically demanding as putting a new faceplate on a light switch. If you forget to loosen the nuts before lifting the car, the fact that the wheel is spinning freely will remind you.
Posted by: hogmartin

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As a huge believer in Looking It Up or alternatively Figuring It Out, I'd never be in a situation where I'd freeze to death in a car over a flat tire. I'd Youtube it, or read the manual, or muck about with the tools and parts until I got it. Knowing that it's all written down or out there on the internet somewhere makes me less inclined to keep it in mind.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2019 01:53 PM (oGNNA)

285 110
And celebrating once again that it's not President Hillary who will be appearing at ANY of our military observances. Can you imagine that phony with her chin all lifted at the 75th anniversary of D-Day? And the press talking about Her Dignity etc.

Not being negative! Just thankful.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2019 12:27 PM (oGNNA)

Maybe she could find the same stones Bill "found" on the beach and make a cross out of them.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 25, 2019 01:54 PM (MwFQu)

286 BignJames at May 25, 2019 11:39 AM

Thanks. Fixed it.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at May 25, 2019 01:54 PM (BVQ+1)

287
If you forget to loosen the nuts before lifting the car, the fact that the wheel is spinning freely will remind you.
Posted by: hogmartin

=====

Oh, and LOL, thanks for telling me that! I'm one of those people who remembers things as "He said that I have to do it either before or after -- the sequence is very important -- but I can't remember which was the before thing and which was the after."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2019 01:55 PM (oGNNA)

288 Blonde, I am unlucky enough to have my cell phone battery go out when I need it the most, so i'm pretty anal about trying to learn things from my mothers and fathers.

Posted by: willow at May 25, 2019 01:55 PM (r/xAU)

289 I have been watching sport climbing, which I did not know was a Thing. It is apparently about to be an Olympic thing.

It's rock climbing walls designed by the Marquis de Sade. It's really cool. Sport climbing girls are in really good shape.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at May 25, 2019 01:55 PM (fuK7c)

290

Brian Hall was waiting in the drive-thru at Chick-fil-A's East Ridge, Tennessee, location on May 11 when he got a flat tire, according to his Facebook post.

That's when an unnamed employee came to assist.

"My tire somehow went flat in the drive through so they rushed out to replace it for me with their hydraulic Jack," Hall wrote.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2019 01:55 PM (aKsyK)

291 For anyone who might be inclined to visit memorial sites, there's this:

https://www.tourofhonor.com/

Self-guided tour of 300+ national, state, and municipal memorials. A portion of the registration goes to Fisher House Foundation, Operation Comfort Warriors, or Police and Fire: The Fallen Heroes, at the registrant's choice.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 25, 2019 01:56 PM (t+qrx)

292 Brian Hall was waiting in the drive-thru at Chick-fil-A's East Ridge, Tennessee, location on May 11 when he got a flat tire, according to his Facebook post.

That's when an unnamed employee came to assist.

"My tire somehow went flat in the drive through so they rushed out to replace it for me with their hydraulic Jack," Hall wrote.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2019 01:55 PM (aKsyK)

They borrowed it from the Jack-In-The-Box across the street.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 01:56 PM (Ct55T)

293 irongrandpa, I salute you, your ancestors who fought the good fight, and believe in America as we knew it.

I have the highest regard for them, for in many cases like the line in First Blood holds;

John Rambo: Nothing is over! Nothing! You just don't turn it off! It wasn't my war! You asked me, I didn't ask you! And I did what I had to do to win! But somebody wouldn't let us win! And I come back to the world and I see all those maggots at the airport, protesting me, spitting. Calling me baby killer and all kinds of vile crap! Who are they to protest me? Who are they? Unless they've been me and been there and know what the hell they're yelling about!

I have the same contempt for the Cuck Cruisers who push us into wars with our hands tied behind our backs as I do the hippies. Then Kristol, Boot, et al sneer in contempt at those "deplorables" who stepped up to fight them as if those soldiers are nothing but defective machines.

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 01:56 PM (0Ntuf)

294 Posted by: barbarausa at May 25, 2019 01:51 PM (W7IZQ)

I think 282 gives a good context to the proper use of US vice "US"!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 25, 2019 01:57 PM (AZxMX)

295 To those that gave the ultimate sacrifice and to their families I offer my most heartfelt gratitude.


I cannot look at those pictures without tears. Tears of gratitude.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2019 01:57 PM (eT+zM)

296 Warai-otoko , I love reading little things that make me chuckle.

Posted by: willow at May 25, 2019 01:57 PM (r/xAU)

297
Maybe she could find the same stones Bill "found" on the beach and make a cross out of them.
Posted by: Fox2!

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Oh dear God. I never heard that story and I sense a load of Clintonian BS that will make me vomit. But tell me anyway, so I can be that much more grateful that she's not the pres on the upcoming occasion.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2019 01:57 PM (oGNNA)

298 BenHad , amen.

Posted by: willow at May 25, 2019 01:57 PM (r/xAU)

299 Posted by: willow at May 25, 2019 01:57 PM (r/xAU)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 01:58 PM (Ct55T)

300 ty, I was close to being ranty while crying, that stopped the momentum.

Posted by: willow at May 25, 2019 01:59 PM (r/xAU)

301 And the press talking about Her Dignity etc.

Not being negative! Just thankful.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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And recounting her own selfless bravery while under sniper fire.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 01:59 PM (CDGwz)

302
Blonde, I am unlucky enough to have my cell phone battery go out when I need it the most, so i'm pretty anal about trying to learn things from my mothers and fathers.
Posted by: willow

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I admit, that's a very smart idea, and a lesson I've learned the hard way meself.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2019 02:00 PM (oGNNA)

303 As a huge believer in Looking It Up or alternatively Figuring It Out, I'd never be in a situation where I'd freeze to death in a car over a flat tire.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2019 01:53 PM (oGNNA)


Well sure, knowing how is often less important than knowing where to find out how. And it is in the manual (or should be). But I'm pretty sure you'd figure it out. It's not a mystery or a test of skill, just unscrew things until the right piece falls off, then tighten them until the other one stays on.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 25, 2019 02:00 PM (t+qrx)

304 *waves to Ben Had*

Posted by: SMH at May 25, 2019 02:00 PM (RU4sa)

305 Knowledge is knowing how to change a tire

Wisdom is knowing your spare has air in it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 02:01 PM (Ct55T)

306 As a huge believer in Looking It Up or alternatively Figuring It Out, I'd never be in a situation where I'd freeze to death in a car over a flat tire.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2019 01:53 PM (oGNNA)

Well sure, knowing how is often less important than knowing where to find out how. And it is in the manual (or should be). But I'm pretty sure you'd figure it out. It's not a mystery or a test of skill, just unscrew things until the right piece falls off, then tighten them until the other one stays on.
Posted by: hogmartin
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Alternatively, tires make for a nice warm fire.

Posted by: Willie 'The Necklace' Mandela at May 25, 2019 02:02 PM (CDGwz)

307 just unscrew things until the right piece falls off, then tighten them until the other one stays on.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 25, 2019 02:00 PM (t+qrx)

That's also my approach to electron microscopes.


(i'm not really kidding all that much)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 02:02 PM (Ct55T)

308
And recounting her own selfless bravery while under sniper fire.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 01:59 PM (CDGwz)

+++When you've downed a quart of gin for breakfast, sniper fire/cameras clicking, who can tell? Same/same.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 25, 2019 02:02 PM (EjlXc)

309 That's also my approach to electron microscopes.


(i'm not really kidding all that much)
Posted by: Warai-otoko
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*pokes at an electron, moving it to higher energy level*

What could go wrong?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 02:04 PM (CDGwz)

310 +++When you've downed a quart of gin for breakfast, sniper fire/cameras clicking, who can tell? Same/same.
Posted by: washrivergal
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Bouquets of flowers from young girls are easily mistaken for muzzle flashes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 02:05 PM (CDGwz)

311 People would use the microscopes and act like they were these delicate, arcane, incomprehensible, fragile miracles....

and then put their samples in WITHOUT WEARING GLOVES.

F*ckin' idiots.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 02:06 PM (Ct55T)

312 That's also my approach to electron microscopes.


(i'm not really kidding all that much)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 02:02 PM (Ct55T)


Also works for appliance repair, furniture, and minor surgery.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 25, 2019 02:06 PM (t+qrx)

313 Blonde, I am unlucky enough to have my cell phone battery go out when I
need it the most, so i'm pretty anal about trying to learn things from
my mothers and fathers.
=====

Yes. However, the very best Christmas present ever was a small universal charger for my car, phone, computer, and anything else in a nice little case with various sizes of charging cords that I check the charge every few months. SIL got it from Harbor Freight, Viking Brand, although maybe there are better or cheaper ones now. Has been worth every penny that he paid for it ten times over.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 25, 2019 02:06 PM (MIKMs)

314 Just returned from a beautiful drive along the ocean in the little red car. Even stopped to check the oil.

But there is no amount of money that will get me to mess with the Lucas electrical system. That requires an exorcist.

And girls can't parallel park.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2019 02:06 PM (/tuJf)

315 And recounting her own selfless bravery while under sniper fire.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 01:59 PM (CDGwz)

+++When you've downed a quart of gin for breakfast, sniper fire/cameras clicking, who can tell? Same/same.
Posted by: washrivergal at May 25, 2019 02:02 PM (EjlXc)


The most implausible part of her story: running across the tarmac.

She ran?? Are you kidding me? She has trouble walking.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 02:07 PM (+VZS9)

316 Also works for appliance repair, furniture, and minor surgery.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 25, 2019 02:06 PM (t+qrx)

Sutures : Scalpels :: Duct Tape : WD-40

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 02:07 PM (Ct55T)

317 SMH, a big hug to you, Dear Lady.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2019 02:07 PM (eT+zM)

318 I saw that, and thanks.
does provide more context

Posted by: barbarausa at May 25, 2019 02:07 PM (W7IZQ)

319 I have been on a WWI tour and a "Band of Brothers" tour. In Dec my best friend and I will be going on a "Battle of the Bulge" tour, based in Bastogne.
Stephen Ambrose Historical Tours does a great job on these and other tours.

In Belgium at the American cemeteries local residence place flowers on the graves on anniversaries such as their birth and death. Very moving. Yes, we do have friends in the world.

Posted by: LYNN HARGROVE at May 25, 2019 02:07 PM (jHdOj)

320 Look at the electoral map of the US... the large majority of States aren't Leftist.

So, legal question: would it be Constitutional for three quarters of the states to ratify an "Ejexit" amendment to kick out, say, CA or MA or CO?

I'm not sure how to read the "equal suffrage" clause in Article V.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 25, 2019 02:08 PM (e1wLT)

321 Tip. Anytime you get a new car/truck you should practice taking a tire off at least once before you get out on busy street/high and you have to do it.


Another tip. One thing I've noticed with better quality tires that last a long time is the rim sticking on. Sometimes you can shake it loose by hand or giving it a quick hit with a hammer but usually you have to loosen the lug nuts and get back in and actually drive the vehicle a little to break it loose.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 25, 2019 02:08 PM (4thlk)

322 I'd never be in a situation where I'd freeze to death in a car over a flat tire.


I am mildly paranoid about freezing to death due to things beyond my control. There are images from the Blizzard of '78 where cars got stuck on the highway for three days. (I'm not too young to remember, I was in college and therefore oblivious).

Even when my truck is completely cleaned out for company it has a camp stove, fuel, thing to boil water in, and a means of making fire without lighters or matches.

I may die but I won't freeze to death.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at May 25, 2019 02:08 PM (fuK7c)

323 But there is no amount of money that will get me to mess with the Lucas electrical system. That requires an exorcist.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2019 02:06 PM (/tuJf)

Lucas Electrics were not created with the same science that Watt, Ohm, and Voltaire had in mind.

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 02:08 PM (0Ntuf)

324
Bouquets of flowers from young girls are easily mistaken for muzzle flashes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 02:05 PM (CDGwz)

+++
Egg-zact-ly.

Posted by: Hil (hic) lary at May 25, 2019 02:08 PM (EjlXc)

325 305 Knowledge is knowing how to change a tire

Wisdom is knowing your spare has air in it.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 02:01 PM (Ct55T)


True wisdom resides in buying $20 compressors (powered from the cigarette lighter) for the trunk of each vehicle so you don't have to worry about whether the spare is inflated or not.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 02:09 PM (+VZS9)

326 amendment to kick out, say, CA or MA or CO?

I'm not sure how to read the "equal suffrage" clause in Article V.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 25, 2019 02:08 PM (e1wLT)

Embrace the power of "and"?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 02:10 PM (Ct55T)

327 Knowledge is knowing how to change a tire

Wisdom is knowing your spare has air in it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko


That's a fun thing modern cars do, too.

Tire pressure sensors.

Ever had your dashboard tell you "low tire", but all four measure okay?

Guess which one's low.

Posted by: mikeski at May 25, 2019 02:10 PM (P1f+c)

328 All this "changing tires" stuff is malarkey, anyway.

All you need is a good sturdy hunting knife.

One goes flat, you can just even out the other three.

It's so simple.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 02:11 PM (Ct55T)

329 Guess which one's low.
Posted by: mikeski at May 25, 2019 02:10 PM (P1f+c)

heh.

My "new" car is an '02 Jeep.

"tire sensor" is what I call the tip of my boots.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 02:12 PM (Ct55T)

330 >>Lucas Electrics were not created with the same science that Watt, Ohm, and Voltaire had in mind.

The odd thing is British auto electrics are still horrible. Have a friend who had one of those Land Rover Discovery SUVs for a couple years. The entire time he had it he had random electrical issues constantly.

Finally gave up and traded it for a Jeep.

It's like the Brits just don't want to make good electrical stuff.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2019 02:12 PM (/tuJf)

331 From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 02:13 PM (0Ntuf)

332 This has always been a tough weekend for me every year. Dad died between Memorial Day and Father's Day a long time ago.

I remember that we had to wear white flowers to church on this weekend. All the other kids had red flowers since their fathers were still alive.

I remember riding my bike to my father's grave several times when I was kid. I'd just sit there for a bit and then make the long ride home. I never told my mother or siblings and I always went alone.

I'd trade that flag, dog tags and 30-06 shell casings to have my father back but I suppose every other kid in the same situation feels the same way.

Remember those who sacrificed everything to preserve our liberties. Remember that the struggle is no yet over.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at May 25, 2019 02:13 PM (+Kpte)

333 Ever had your dashboard tell you "low tire", but all four measure okay?

Guess which one's low.
Posted by: mikeski at May 25, 2019 02:10 PM (P1f+c)


Hang on, I thought TPMS transmitters were supposed to come on only when the tire's spinning. Or they're the kind that's linked through the ABS, in which case they only measure the tires on the ground anyhow. Am I mistaken? My TPMS light is pretty much always on, but I've taken that to mean "this light is working properly" since it has no correlation to the pressure in the tires.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 25, 2019 02:14 PM (t+qrx)

334 Heh. A boss of mine years ago had an old Jag. Every so often the horn would go off, just parked in the parking lot.

He'd always say "it does that to remind me that it's British."

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 25, 2019 02:14 PM (IfYaq)

335 The most implausible part of her story: running across the tarmac.

She ran?? Are you kidding me? She has trouble walking.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Any time 'tarmac' and the name 'Clinton' are mentioned, something fishy is going on.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 02:15 PM (CDGwz)

336 Embrace the power of "and"?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 02:10 PM (Ct55T)

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Maybe. I'd like to revert one state to territorial status first, to scare the bejeebus out of the Commies, and see if it puts them on good behavior.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 25, 2019 02:15 PM (e1wLT)

337 Maybe. I'd like to revert one state to territorial status first, to scare the bejeebus out of the Commies, and see if it puts them on good behavior.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 25, 2019 02:15 PM (e1wLT)

I'll be expecting the newsletter in my mailbox forthwith.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 02:16 PM (Ct55T)

338 Visiting the Vietnam memorial wrecked me for the rest of that day and night. The notes surviving soldiers had left their fallen comrades...

Posted by: kallisto at May 25, 2019 02:16 PM (RCRTc)

339 Any time 'tarmac' and the name 'Clinton' are mentioned, something fishy is going on.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 02:15 PM (CDGwz)


Or she needs resurfacing.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 25, 2019 02:16 PM (t+qrx)

340 If my dash tells me anything about my tires, I'm gonna need a psychiatrist.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 02:17 PM (xSo9G)

341 Heh. A boss of mine years ago had an old Jag. Every so often the horn would go off, just parked in the parking lot.
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Pretty sure that should read "...the hooter would sound..."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 02:19 PM (xSo9G)

342
And recounting her own selfless bravery while under sniper fire.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

=====

"Just as these brave heroes defeated Hitler, I fought the forces of misogyny and backwardness to become president. Now someone get the helicopter back here because I forgot my sunglasses."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2019 02:20 PM (oGNNA)

343 Forward, the Light Brigade!
Was there a man dismayed?
Not though the soldier knew
Someone had blundered.
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die.
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.


Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 02:20 PM (0Ntuf)

344 True story:

Mom had got a new Ford Escape. Coming home from work one day, on a beautiful, dry, sunny afternoon, she was saying, "Some light kept coming on on my dash. Like a little triangle with squiggly lines. Not the enginey looking one. Can you check on it and see if anything's wrong?"

Me, Dad, Sister and Bro-In-Law all exchange glances.

I believe it was me who finally said:

"That's your traction control light".

Now we never let her live it down.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 02:21 PM (Ct55T)

345
Or she needs resurfacing.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 25, 2019 02:16 PM (t+qrx)


Speaking of resurfacing, I saw a new clip of her last night speaking somewhere and she's still obsessed with turning Texas blue.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 25, 2019 02:21 PM (TAmPV)

346 My ex-wife had a Landrover Disco with a flat a while ago. I try to be the good kind of ex-husband and went over to fix it for her.

I couldn't find the jack. I resorted to the owner's manual. It turned out that it was a two-piece jack. One piece was in a hidden compartment in the rear door, the other was under a cowling in the engine compartment.

It was a nice jack when all the parts were tracked down, but really Britain?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at May 25, 2019 02:22 PM (fuK7c)

347 They are going to hold the 2019 USA Climbing sport and speed youth championship at Reach gym I worked at.

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2019 02:23 PM (BbGew)

348
"Just as these brave heroes defeated Hitler, I fought the forces of misogyny and backwardness to become president. Now someone get the helicopter back here because I forgot my sunglasses."
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Exactly! It's just like my struggle against global warming.

Posted by: AOC, cauliflower-free at May 25, 2019 02:23 PM (xSo9G)

349
The most implausible part of her story: running across the tarmac.

She ran?? Are you kidding me? She has trouble walking.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

======

That right there.

I pity the poor soldier who's tasked with getting her quickly from point A to point B via legwork.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2019 02:23 PM (oGNNA)

350 It was a nice jack when all the parts were tracked down, but really Britain?
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at May 25, 2019 02:22 PM (fuK7c)

A Disunion Jack?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 02:23 PM (Ct55T)

351 Changing a tire on a 5 horse trailer with 5 horses in it is a bit of a challenge but a friend made me a neat block that you just pull up on in place of having to jack anything up.

Works like a charm after you have loosened the lug nuts.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2019 02:23 PM (eT+zM)

352 Ever had your dashboard tell you "low tire", but all four measure okay?

Posted by: mikeski at May 25, 2019 02:10 PM (P1f+c)

Have that issue with my RAV4. Light's on but the tires are fine.

My mechanic explained to me that it's a faulty sensor in one of the wheels, but you can't just replace the bad sensor, all four have to be replaced. Better just to let it go since it isn't a vital function that your own eyes can't do for you and it's an expensive fix.

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 02:24 PM (0Ntuf)

353 351
Changing a tire on a 5 horse trailer with 5 horses in it is a bit of a
challenge but a friend made me a neat block that you just pull up on in
place of having to jack anything up.



Works like a charm after you have loosened the lug nuts.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2019 02:23 PM (eT+zM)

+++
Wow.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 25, 2019 02:25 PM (EjlXc)

354 It was a nice jack when all the parts were tracked down, but really Britain?
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at May 25, 2019 02:22 PM (fuK7c)


The Brits are nice people, but they totally suck at engineering. They're awful. I think it may be related to the low regard they have for engineers. We and the Germans hold engineers in high regard. The Brits consider an engineer to be a guy in overalls who bangs on a radiator with a wrench (spanner, as they say) to make it work.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 02:27 PM (+VZS9)

355 When I was growing up Memorial Day was simply the weekend our extended family got together. None of the adults ever said much about the why, or talked about what they may or may not have done in the past. It wasn't much later, when I started researching the family tree (no one was much interested in genealogy either) that I found what had been done.

Most of my great grandparents were the immigrants, turns out one line was further back. A 3x great grandfather was in the Mexican--American War, and made it back. A grandmother's older cousin married a soldier--who was in the Spanish-American War but was KIA in France, Nov 5, 1918, the Meuse-Argonne offensive. A great grandfather came here alone from England, I've often wondered if he knew his younger brother, a British army soldier, had died in Iraq during the Mesopotamian campaign. My grandfather was on the ground crew of a bomber in North Africa, a step grandfather in the Navy was on the crew of a landing craft in Leyte Gulf, wounded so badly he was evacuated back to the US. An aunt's older brother died at Anzio.

It isn't just the loss of the people that should be remembered--it's the fact that history isn't just words in a book. Real people made that history and those real people should be remembered as those who made that history.

Posted by: Lirio100 at May 25, 2019 02:27 PM (JK7Jw)

356 351 Changing a tire on a 5 horse trailer with 5 horses in it is a bit of a challenge but a friend made me a neat block that you just pull up on in place of having to jack anything up.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2019 02:23 PM (eT+zM)

Not one of those horses offered to come out and help!

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 02:27 PM (0Ntuf)

357 TPMS is an expensive boondoggle. I've yet to see one one that works properly. They're always broken.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 25, 2019 02:28 PM (pE1yu)

358 The Brits are nice people, but they totally suck at engineering.
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*ahem*

Posted by: Supermarine Spitfire at May 25, 2019 02:29 PM (CDGwz)

359 TPMS is an expensive boondoggle. I've yet to see one one that works properly. They're always broken.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Well, government mandated, so...

Posted by: Supermarine Spitfire at May 25, 2019 02:30 PM (CDGwz)

360 358 The Brits are nice people, but they totally suck at engineering.
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*ahem*
Posted by: Supermarine Spitfire at May 25, 2019 02:29 PM (CDGwz)


Lucky punch.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 02:30 PM (+VZS9)

361 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 02:27 PM (+VZS9)

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All their good engineers have always been Scots. It probably sticks in their craw.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 25, 2019 02:30 PM (pE1yu)

362 All their good engineers have always been Scots. It probably sticks in their craw.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 25, 2019 02:30 PM (pE1yu)

Oh, FFS, not another Star Trek thread...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 02:31 PM (Ct55T)

363 TPMS is an expensive boondoggle. I've yet to see one one that works properly. They're always broken.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Well, government mandated, so...
Posted by: Supermarine Spitfire at May 25, 2019 02:30 PM (CDGwz)


I didn't know that, but it explains a lot.

God forbid you use a tire pressure gauge to determine .. . uh ... the tire pressure.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 02:31 PM (+VZS9)

364 The Brits consider an engineer to be a guy in overalls who bangs on a radiator with a wrench (spanner, as they say) to make it work.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 02:27 PM (+VZS9)

"That'll do"

Which was also the creed of British Leyland's quality control supervisors


Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 02:32 PM (0Ntuf)

365 Stop flat-shaming my tires!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 02:32 PM (Ct55T)

366 I couldn't find the jack. I resorted to the owner's manual. It turned out that it was a two-piece jack. One piece was in a hidden compartment in the rear door, the other was under a cowling in the engine compartment.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at May 25, 2019 02:22 PM (fuK7c)


Unrelated fun fact: all British armored vehicles are equipped with a purpose-built tea boiling vessel in the crew compartment.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 25, 2019 02:32 PM (t+qrx)

367 Was driving to the Keys a few years ago with a buddy. We were towing his Regulator 23 which is a heavy boat for it's size.

We got to Georgia and noticed that one of the tires on the trailer was just about to go, double axel trailer with out of align tires = bad. We didn't have a jack that would deal with the trailer so we started dialing for dollars.

Only place we could find that would deal with it was a heavy equipment shop. They couldn't have been nicer and went at the thing like a pit crew. They brought out the biggest forklift I've ever seen and just picked the entire trailer with boat of the ground.

The young lady in the office was also very nice and smoking hot. She couldn't wait to show us pictures of her fishing in her bikini. We offered to bring her with us as partial payment but in the end we settled on $40.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2019 02:32 PM (/tuJf)

368 Just for the record -

TPMS Legislation - In 2000 6.5 million tires were recalled due to tread separation on automobiles in the US. This prompted President Clinton to sign the first version of the TREAD Act which required Tire Pressure Warning Systems to be implemented on Model Year 2004 automobiles. These were to include all passenger vehicles and light trucks with GWVR of 10,000 lbs and less.

Posted by: Supermarine Spitfire at May 25, 2019 02:33 PM (CDGwz)

369 The Brits are nice people, but they totally suck at engineering.
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*ahem*
Posted by: Supermarine Spitfire at May 25, 2019 02:29 PM (CDGwz)


Hey there, you.

Posted by: Miss Shilling's orifice at May 25, 2019 02:34 PM (t+qrx)

370 Unrelated fun fact: all British armored vehicles are equipped with a purpose-built tea boiling vessel in the crew compartment.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 25, 2019 02:32 PM (t+qrx)

"On my signal, unleash Hell! Three...

... Two...

... cuppa?"

"I'll put the kettle on, Guv"

"Ta."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 02:34 PM (Ct55T)

371 All their good engineers have always been Scots. It probably sticks in their craw.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 25, 2019 02:30 PM (pE1yu)

Which is probably why their shipyards were in Clydesbank and Belfast.

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 02:35 PM (0Ntuf)

372 361 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 02:27 PM (+VZS9)

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All their good engineers have always been Scots. It probably sticks in their craw.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 25, 2019 02:30 PM (pE1yu)


I once saw a closet in Britain in which the rails ran from front to back, and were approximately 0.9 suit jacket widths apart. Upshot: suits on the two rails interdigitated, so you had to fight your way through all of the suit jackets to get at one in the back.

I looked underneath where the rails were mounted, and there were elaborate drawings and measurements, effort that would have been better spent just installing the rails to run left to right. You know, the way anyone else would do this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 02:35 PM (+VZS9)

373 There is, btw, a heavy fine for defeating the TPS.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 02:35 PM (CDGwz)

374 The Brits are nice people, but they totally suck at engineering. They're
awful. I think it may be related to the low regard they have for
engineers. We and the Germans hold engineers in high regard. The Brits
consider an engineer to be a guy in overalls who bangs on a radiator
with a wrench (spanner, as they say) to make it work.
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I seem to recall that all Brit 'engineers' are really Scots historically. Could be why they get no respect. At least the Irish will sing songs while the engineers do the sweaty work.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 25, 2019 02:35 PM (MIKMs)

375
Exactly! It's just like my struggle against global warming.
Posted by: AOC, cauliflower-free

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I snickered. She literally does compare it to defeating Hitler.

Can't remember which conservative pundit suggested as a question during the Democrat presidential debates, In this struggle for the existence of the very planet, would you call for bombing coal plants in India and China? Why not?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2019 02:35 PM (oGNNA)

376 And girls can't parallel park.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2019 02:06 PM (/tuJf)

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Let me know when you can parallel park a 53' trailer.

Posted by: SMH at May 25, 2019 02:35 PM (RU4sa)

377 I looked underneath where the rails were mounted, and there were elaborate drawings and measurements, effort that would have been better spent just installing the rails to run left to right. You know, the way anyone else would do this.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 02:35 PM (+VZS9)

The Japanese solution would be to simply throw out all of your suit jackets save for one.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 02:37 PM (Ct55T)

378 The Wall is the saddest place on Earth.

Remember.

Posted by: pawn at May 25, 2019 02:37 PM (ti2yD)

379
The Brits are nice people, but they totally suck at engineering. -------

Say what?

Posted by: The Rolls Royce Merlin at May 25, 2019 02:38 PM (TAmPV)

380 Let me know when you can parallel park a 53' trailer.
Posted by: SMH
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*hastily digs foxhole*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 02:39 PM (CDGwz)

381 The Brits are nice people, but they totally suck at engineering. -------

Say what?
Posted by: The Rolls Royce Merlin at May 25, 2019 02:38 PM (TAmPV)


Queue forms to the left.

Posted by: Miss Shilling's orifice at May 25, 2019 02:39 PM (t+qrx)

382 Only thing I can say through tears is- Thank you !!!

Posted by: Deep State is In DEEP SHIT at May 25, 2019 02:39 PM (BqBId)

383
And girls can't parallel park.
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Curb feelers were invented for everyone.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 25, 2019 02:40 PM (MIKMs)

384 "That'll do"

Which was also the creed of British Leyland's quality control supervisors

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 02:32 PM (0Ntuf)


"Muddle through."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 02:40 PM (+VZS9)

385 Curb feelers were invented for everyone.
Posted by: mustbequantum
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See! It's not just me.

Posted by: Joey Biden at May 25, 2019 02:41 PM (xSo9G)

386 358 The Brits are nice people, but they totally suck at engineering.

*ahem*

Posted by: Supermarine Spitfire at May 25, 2019 02:33 PM (CDGwz)

I say, shall we make a go of it?

Posted by: Hawker Hurricane at May 25, 2019 02:42 PM (0Ntuf)

387 >>Curb feelers were invented for everyone.

I haven't seen those in a long time. Car whiskers.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2019 02:43 PM (/tuJf)

388 There's a video kicking around of Angela Merkel a couple years ago at some victory party, she's on stage with fellow bastard Kraut politicos from her party (CDU? who the fuck cares at this point), and one of them is holding a Bundespfanne, gleefully smiling and waving the flag in celebration.

Merkel rips it out of his hand, throws it off stage, and scowls at him.

Thank Christ we've got a leader who loves our Flag, loves our Military, and loves the Country they stand for.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 02:43 PM (Ct55T)

389 Some new tire pressure monitoring system don't have sensors inside the wheels. They use the wheel speed sensors to detect differences in rotation speed. One wheel rotating faster means smaller diameter because of low pressure.

Posted by: freaked at May 25, 2019 02:43 PM (UdKB7)

390 The Brits are nice people, but they totally suck at engineering.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 02:27 PM (+VZS9)

Yet they crafted some of the finest guns in both World Wars.

The Enfield is one of the finest rifles ever made. The Afghans fought off the Red Army with them.

Posted by: Hawker Hurricane at May 25, 2019 02:46 PM (0Ntuf)

391 I will admit that after all the years of pulling a gooseneck trailer, I have lost the knack of backing a bumper pull with out a little correction.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2019 02:48 PM (eT+zM)

392 I say, shall we make a go of it?

Posted by: Hawker Hurricane at May 25, 2019 02:42 PM (0Ntuf)

I shall look down on all of you

Posted by: DeHavilland Mosquito at May 25, 2019 02:49 PM (0Ntuf)

393 The Brits may not be the kings of engineering anymore, but everyone is copying the Dyson Vacuum now.

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 02:51 PM (0Ntuf)

394 Fine. But, just as a matter of curiosity, how much time are you personally investing in preserving American lives and freedom?

As far as something objective with a measurable result? Not one minute.

Now lots of money is being extracted from me, allegedly a portion of that goes to endeavors aimed at preserving not just American lives, but pretty much anyone who can get their claws into the welfare system. It takes a lot of billable hours to cover that and preserve my own life and liberty.

Then there is the preparation for maintaining life and liberty. How do you measure that? What counts? Building up martial skill sets? Living a life that promotes and advocates the character and skills that are consistent and required to maintain a Constitutional Republic?

Does standing in front of a Planned Parenthood, disciple young men, or participate in John Birch activities count?

Wearing a uniform doesn't necessarily mean preserving life and liberty. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it runs counter to preserving life and liberty.

Each person who died to preserve life and liberty whether in uniform or not did so as a call of duty, and for that they should be honored. It seems that Memorial Day filters out those who sacrificed while not on the government payroll.

Running around in some other country killing people and destroying things because your boss told you to can describe a soldier, a mercenary, a terrorist or an MS-13 gang banger.

We ask a lot from soldiers. I hate seeing them destroyed in the service of ungrateful people. But when asking mangled people who got that way in the Middle East, many proudly say that they did so in "service to their country".

I don't want to take that away from them, their choice, so its their honor and I respect that.

My question/complaint really is not about the individual, it is about the military in general - when will they actually defend legitimate causes?

Why in Hell are we militarily provoking the Iranians, the Chinese and the Russians? To what end? And am I supposed to get all Yankee Doodle when this saber rattling causes an incident?

Is it really a US interest to fight a war with China over Taiwan? Or spend billions of dollars and numerous lives to defend NATO member Turkey?

Right Now, with open borders and utter criminals running the government, while galavanting about the world causing mischief, we are materially and objectively losing liberty and freedom at a rate faster than if we were conquered by any foreign sovereign.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at May 25, 2019 02:52 PM (lD3vL)

395 I shall look down on all of you
Posted by: DeHavilland Mosquito
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Right.

Posted by: Termites at May 25, 2019 02:52 PM (xSo9G)

396 I'm starting to actually think they're using a body double for Melania... pics of POTUS and FLOTUS landing in Japan, and it just doesn't look like her...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 02:53 PM (Ct55T)

397 But for the Merlin, the P-51 would be barely a footnote in aviation history.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 02:54 PM (xSo9G)

398 >>I will admit that after all the years of pulling a gooseneck trailer, I have lost the knack of backing a bumper pull with out a little correction.

Do you remember those old International Harvester horse vans? My mom had one of those back in the day.

Thing was a tank but it topped out at about 55 mph which made for long drives to and from Florida.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2019 02:56 PM (/tuJf)

399 397 But for the Merlin, the P-51 would be barely a footnote in aviation history.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 02:54 PM (xSo9G)

Trivia question: Which company assembled the RR Merlin in America?

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 02:59 PM (0Ntuf)

400
Trivia question: Which company assembled the RR Merlin in America?


Packard?

Posted by: The Rolls Royce Merlin at May 25, 2019 03:02 PM (TAmPV)

401 Suitable for desktop wallpaper (2048x1357):

http://tinyurl.com/y6y22pod

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 25, 2019 03:03 PM (t+qrx)

402 Pet thread's up, for all y'all fellow non-gardeners.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 03:03 PM (Ct55T)

403
Off legendary sock

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 25, 2019 03:03 PM (TAmPV)

404 Jackstraw, I used to see a lot of them at the track.

A friend had a smaller version of that, fit in the back of a pick up .Carried two horses.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2019 03:04 PM (eT+zM)

405 Trivia question: Which company assembled the RR Merlin in America?


Packard?
Posted by: The Rolls Royce Merlin
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Was it Packard exclusively? Certainly most...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2019 03:05 PM (CDGwz)

406 Packard?

Posted by: The Rolls Royce Merlin at May 25, 2019 03:02 PM (TAmPV)

Correct

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 03:05 PM (0Ntuf)

407
I'm starting to actually think they're using a body double for Melania... pics of POTUS and FLOTUS landing in Japan, and it just doesn't look like her...
Posted by: Warai-otoko

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Dude, link!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2019 03:06 PM (oGNNA)

408 Packard is correct. Ruined the company, sadly.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 25, 2019 03:06 PM (gKN/H)

409 *ahem*

Posted by: Supermarine Spitfire at May 25, 2019 02:33 PM (CDGwz)

You were brilliant, but remember who had to do the heavy lifting, mate!

Posted by: Avro Lancaster at May 25, 2019 03:07 PM (0Ntuf)

410 Sorry, i'm only nominally awake right now.

https://bit.ly/2W6ns4v

link to CTH. I don't usually go there, but someone else linked there and yaddy yadda yadda....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 03:09 PM (Ct55T)

411 Thank you very much! I lost three fellow Marines I'd trained with at Beirut in '83, just a few short months after we parted ways at Camp Pendleton. Memorial Day has always been a little harder since.
Semper Fi,
Mattski

Posted by: Mattski at May 25, 2019 03:10 PM (FLyxJ)

412
link to CTH. I don't usually go there, but someone else linked there and yaddy yadda yadda....
Posted by: Warai-otoko

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Hmm, those pics in turn come from the Daily Mail, and the video is undoubtedly Melania. She may have had a wee touch of botox, but it's her.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2019 03:13 PM (oGNNA)

413 link to CTH. I don't usually go there, but someone else linked there and yaddy yadda yadda....
Posted by: Warai-otoko

=====

Hmm, those pics in turn come from the Daily Mail, and the video is undoubtedly Melania. She may have had a wee touch of botox, but it's her.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2019 03:13 PM (oGNNA)

Could also just be puffiness from a long flight. AF1 is the tits, but it's still an airplane.

So i guess i could be wrong.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 03:14 PM (Ct55T)

414
Packard also supplied the engines for the PT boats.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 25, 2019 03:15 PM (TAmPV)

415
Pet thread's up, for all y'all fellow non-gardeners.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

=====

Non-gardener, non-pet-talker, non-chess-player... just a Saturday-killer.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2019 03:15 PM (oGNNA)

416 408 Packard is correct. Ruined the company, sadly.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 25, 2019 03:06 PM (gKN/H)

Actually Packard did quite well in the immediate postwar period, they were outselling Cadillac up until 1950. It was their insufficient dealer distribution network that was probably their chief reason for ruin.

Mid 50's Packard V8's were incredibly smooth running machines. Excellent build quality too.


Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2019 03:15 PM (0Ntuf)

417 Non-gardener, non-pet-talker, non-chess-player... just a Saturday-killer.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2019 03:15 PM (oGNNA)

yep. same here.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 03:16 PM (Ct55T)

418
Could also just be puffiness from a long flight. AF1 is the tits, but it's still an airplane.

So i guess i could be wrong.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

=====

It's not only the face, it's the body. Definitely Melania.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2019 03:16 PM (oGNNA)

419 I sent the "obsolete skills" crap article to my wife.

Her response?

"Trouble is we already have a group with the suggested alternative skills. They're called women."

LOL. That's why I love her. One of the reasons, anyway.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 03:17 PM (+VZS9)

420 I do dig how Trump and Abe seem to be legit friends. I wouldn't be surprised if they call each other up just to bullshit now and again.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 03:21 PM (Ct55T)

421 What hath liberalism wrought?

Rotting Trash in Los Angeles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM21yCBn8HI

It's almost as if liberals/ Democrats/ Communists/ socialists/ progressives/ whatever you want to call them are simply UNFIT to govern.

It's just that simple. And now we're lurching headlong back into the Middle Ages.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2019 03:29 PM (+VZS9)

422 https://youtu.be/98AE3Cwh9uU

vid of Trump speaking in Japan to some business group or another. (American CoC in Japan maybe?)

He sounds like he's got a cold. Very low energy...

Hope he doesn't pull a Bush Sr. this afternoon!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2019 03:36 PM (Ct55T)

423 My favorite Memorial Day was in DC about 5 years ago...We started at the Air and Space museum, and I was telling my kids about Chuck Yeager and what he did in that orange X-plane...
We saw the Vietnam Memorial, and the WWII Memorial, the Korea Memorial...and caught the parade. As the Grand Marshall car pulled into view, I saw that their were co-Grand Marshalls...
None other than General Chuck Yeager, and Gary Sinise. I am getting chills typing this, as I did when I saw the same hero who I had just been telling my kids about, drive by waving to us just steps away.
We finished that day at Arlington, visiting so many heroes, including Audie Murphy, seeing the changing of the Old Guard at the Tomb of the Unknowns, and witnessing the burial ceremony of yet another American hero, horse-drawn casket and all.
God Bless.

Posted by: Uncle Jefe at May 25, 2019 03:41 PM (xKWHx)

424 I haven't seen a curb feeler on a car in so long I can't tell you when.

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2019 03:44 PM (BbGew)

425 I haven't seen a curb feeler on a car in so long I can't tell you when. Posted by: Skip

Not since they threw Hillary into her personal campaign ambulance.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 25, 2019 04:31 PM (Ndje9)

426 Best book on Normandy is John Keegan's "Six Armies in Normandy", published in 1982 and reissued since. It covers the campaign from seven perspectives: American, British, Canadian, French, Polish, German -- and his own personal perspective as a London child growing up in the West Country while the American armies were assembling and training there. It's not a long book, but it's the one to read.

Posted by: William A Befort at May 25, 2019 05:51 PM (hJFOo)

427 Wonderful photos, KT. Thanks to all who contributed.

Posted by: Gem at May 25, 2019 06:32 PM (XoAz8)

428 A letter from one of my uncles, who was in law school when the U.S. entered WWII. He enlisted, and was selected for Officer Candidate School. "Soon, I do not know how soon, I shall have to demonstrate not only how much or how well I have learned the art of killing, but how well I have taught that abominable art to others. I know what's ahead. It won't be another pleasure trip, but though it may cost me my life, I wouldn't want to miss it! Should I be among the many who inevitably must fall, remember that I didn't go without realizing the possibility that might lose my life. Remember, too, that I give my life willingly, that I do so out of love for my country and all it's people, even the the traitors and selfish slackers. If I should die on the battlefield, I beg you to leave my body there. Some day our government may provide you the opportunity to visit my grave. If so, avail yourself of that opportunity." The commanding officer of a heavy weapons platoon in the 116th regiment, 29th Division, he survived Omaha Beach. He wrote a "Victory Gram" home on June 11th, 1944. "Dear folks, Alive and well. Don't worry. The Hun is strong, clever, and brave, but we are beating him. The past few days here have seemed like years - so much has happened. France is beautiful. I think I'll like it better than England. Maybe all of this free wine and champagne makes the difference! You see, it's purer than the water from the wells, which the Germans may have poisoned. Au revoir, Conrad."
He was KIA three days later, and is buried in the American cemetery in Normandy, France.

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Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat