aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com
CBD:
cbd.aoshq at gee mail.com
Buck:
buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com
joe mannix:
mannix2024 at proton.me
MisHum:
petmorons at gee mail.com
J.J. Sefton:
sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com
Open Thread, Plus: Game of Thrones is a Trash-Fire and Not Even the Shill Media Can White-Knight For It Any More
Question: Which TV Series Ended the Worst?
Below, Pitch Meeting guy mocks the show's rushed, bored, indifferent botch of the ending. Even shill media sites, which usually claim to LOVE all the corporate-made geek culture things, are reading the room and bowing to actual viewer reaction and daring to criticize that which was previously beyond criticism.
Personally, I don't even mind the show that much because it's sucked for the last three years and my expectations were low already and lowered still by episode 3, which gave away the trajectory of the coming plot. And the show rushed through last season, and now set itself up for not one but two Final Boss Fights in just the last two episodes, so I knew these were going to be rushed, slapdash pieces of shit, too. Spoilers below. Question, Before We Get to the Rest of the Post: bluebell suggested this question: Which show is ending more disastrously, the BBC's modern Sherlock or Game of Thrones? I guess we can add in Lost and Twin Peaks (both the original show and The Return) into the competition, too. Oh, and I hear Dexter was a disaster at the end, though I never saw a minute of it.Many people are upset about the Villain Turn a character took last episode. I think that turn could have been decent -- if this had been a ten episode season, and we had seen the character descend into evil a little at a time, so that we would start anticipating it, then accepting it, and then seeing it as both organic and maybe even inevitable.
But the way they rushed through this -- all major BULLET POINTS!!! with barely any dramatization around them -- makes this all feel like characters are now just doing things because the producers are bored and have been bored for years and want to move on to ruining another franchise (Star Wars, in this case -- which I'm not sure can be further ruined). David Benioff and D.B. Weiss have repeatedly stated that the crowning moment of this book series to them was the Red Wedding, and their major goal was just to do the show justice, and garner enough of an audience, to get greenlit into season 3 so they could film that. Well, they did. And that being their major goal -- they began getting very bored of the show by season 5 and had to start doing their own writing. They had to start doing their own writing even before St. George's actual book material ran out, because, let's face it, the next two books written by George R.R. Martin were overlong, under-achieving cash-grabs. George R.R. Martin had intended for the narrative to end at book 3, and then use a five or seven year time jump to advance up to the two books that would conclude the series, but I think he was psyched to finally be making money on the books and so he cranked out the piece of shit books 4 and 5 to fill in the years he previously had thought were too uneventful to bother writing about, except for catch-me-up bits in the beginning of the next book. And those books would not have made for very good tv -- they did not make for good reading, by and large -- and so Benioff and Weiss began improvising in season 5. And it showed. Martin's books might not have provided strong material but they didn't actually improve on his crap; they just made it shorter. Which is, I admit, a good thing, but not good enough. And then we got to the actual conclusion. The producers had, it has been widely reported, a basic outline of what GRRM envisioned the last two books to eventually (???) be about. And it seems like they filmed that. The outline, I mean. Just the outline. Bullet point here, film the bullet point. Bullet point there, film the bullet point. Let's crap out this piece of crap and go home.* Like I said, my expectations were very diminished and I've gotten used to this I-hate-my-job-and-want-to-die style of storytelling, so I don't really care about how crap it's all gotten. I viewed the last episode like a normie, no longer invested in these Writer's Conveniences which are alleged to be characters -- there was a lot of spectacle and rushing around, and I have to admit, I enjoyed it on just a basic time-wasting level. But I'm so, so HAPPY the media is taking another blow and embarrassing itself with its continued, determined incompetence. Anything that reduces their esteem and influence, well, I'm all about that. Also below: My feelings about the media, in song form. Content warning for language on that second one. By the way, although I've tried to only hint about spoilers, the thread will contain spoilers, so try to keep out if you haven't seen the last episode yet.Seems healthy. pic.twitter.com/TxuARUePGB
— prop op (@ProperOpinion) May 13, 2019
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Roy at May 14, 2019 08:40 PM (ABjxW)
Because dang at the piracy if so.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 14, 2019 08:42 PM (lPsvG)
.
Every entertainment website I follow has multiple GoT posts per day, so I have a vague idea of what's happened. I just don't care about it. The dislike for this week's episode has been quite evident.
Posted by: Beltway Elite at May 14, 2019 08:42 PM (b6kHD)
Posted by: Ass Chum at May 14, 2019 08:43 PM (Jj+59)
Posted by: Roy at May 14, 2019 08:43 PM (ABjxW)
Posted by: freaked at May 14, 2019 08:43 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 08:44 PM (O3do3)
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 08:44 PM (rqMux)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 14, 2019 08:44 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: JackStraw at May 14, 2019 08:45 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at May 14, 2019 08:45 PM (rVd/x)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2019 08:45 PM (ahS0B)
Posted by: Miklos, media analyst at May 14, 2019 08:45 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 14, 2019 08:46 PM (oVJmc)
Does anybody know how to make a Mac boot into BIOS?
I installed Linux Mint onto a new hard drive and it seemed to be successful, but when I restarted the machine while holding down the option key, it didn't show that drive.
I think if I could get into BIOS, I could select that as the startup drive.
Posted by: rickl at May 14, 2019 08:46 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Geoff Flakey at May 14, 2019 08:46 PM (pPQeR)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 14, 2019 08:46 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: bluebell at May 14, 2019 08:46 PM (aXucN)
Posted by: freaked
------
Ah. Porcelain, of course. The Bilious Gambit will become famous.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 14, 2019 08:47 PM (fZcn6)
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 08:47 PM (rqMux)
YouTubers keep pushing the rumor that HBO actually wanted 10 episodes and asked for 10 episodes and were willing to budget for 10 episodes, but Benioff and Weiss said, "Nah, we got this, we'll do it in six and it'll be great."
I don't know if that's true. But both of the past two seasons were short seasons, and HBO is very dependent on this show (and the next show). I don't think HBO would have an interest in wrapping things up earlier than necessary.
Posted by: ace at May 14, 2019 08:47 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Hamlet, Prince of Denmark at May 14, 2019 08:47 PM (tVQUs)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 14, 2019 08:47 PM (lPsvG)
LOL. You had to bring up THAT nightmare?!!
Posted by: ace at May 14, 2019 08:48 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: VADM Collingwood RN - holding Horatio's grog ration at May 14, 2019 08:48 PM (9X60i)
Posted by: bluebell at May 14, 2019 08:46 PM (aXucN)
You're not missing anything.
I watched the first episode and that had sufficient "nope" for me.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 14, 2019 08:48 PM (0ReGO)
He won't even get Cabinet at this rate.
Posted by: Tu abuela tambien at May 14, 2019 08:48 PM (efMXe)
Posted by: ace
Like it's about dirty capitalist money or something.
Posted by: Miklos, art pour l'art at May 14, 2019 08:49 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 08:49 PM (rqMux)
https://twitter.com/miniAOCofficial
Posted by: Sharkman at May 14, 2019 08:50 PM (fdxBF)
Stay Mad
T
A
Y
M
A
D
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 08:50 PM (O3do3)
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 08:50 PM (rqMux)
Apathy. The way to immunize yourself from disappointment.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Party of One! Personalized Identity Group Kits Now at The Outrage Outlet! at May 14, 2019 08:50 PM (0QYMt)
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 14, 2019 08:50 PM (+dsLj)
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 08:51 PM (O3do3)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.
"driving the porcelain throne"
The kids'll like that.
Posted by: Miklos, gettin' real wit' da youts at May 14, 2019 08:51 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: ace at May 14, 2019 08:48 PM (PbpT7)
----------
In the history of awful endings (Seinfeld, Lost, etc.) that one stands alone.
Hey Ace, if I send you a short email to your address in the corner will you look at it?
Posted by: bluebell at May 14, 2019 08:51 PM (aXucN)
-------
As pointed out earlier, Bullock/Buttrig 2020 has a nice alliterative appeal.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 14, 2019 08:51 PM (HTHlp)
Someday I'll marry the first girl who's actually impressed by that.
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 14, 2019 08:51 PM (+dsLj)
Posted by: Ass Chum at May 14, 2019 08:51 PM (Jj+59)
Question, Before We Get to the Rest of the Post: bluebell suggested this question: Which show is ending more disastrously, the BBC's modern Sherlock or Game of Thrones? I guess we can add in Lost and Twin Peaks (both the original show and The Return) into the competition, too. Oh, and I hear Dexter was a disaster at the end, though I never saw a minute of it.
Posted by: ace at May 14, 2019 08:51 PM (PbpT7)
Don't forget The Walking Dead as well. Even though it's not ending, yet.
Posted by: buzzion at May 14, 2019 08:52 PM (WaxcS)
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 08:52 PM (rqMux)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 14, 2019 08:52 PM (hjaPQ)
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 14, 2019 08:50 PM (+dsLj)
Makes their obese swole face look smaller.
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 08:52 PM (O3do3)
Posted by: literally serious
-----
Ummmmm. . . . For the over 29 crowd, this isn't a bad thing.
Just say'n.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 14, 2019 08:53 PM (Y4EXg)
LOL. I'm impressed by it, but I'm already married.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2019 08:53 PM (ahS0B)
The first season I couldn't keep the various houses apart and why who had a grudge against whom. But you got horses and armor and incest and magic and things that go bump in the night and tits. So that was worth attention.
I grew to embrace it and yeah I've watched all of the mumbeldy seasons and I know who is who and why they have grudges. This whole season has disappointed, but maybe not disproportionally. It was a middling show that I got overly attracted to because of castles and dragons and tits. It shouldn't bother me that it's not ending well.
So, I will wrap this up with One Real Problem.
Jon Snow got brought back from the dead. When you get brought back from the dead you have to change somehow, you lose something, you're not really you. Batman covered this perfectly with the Lazarus Pit, and if Batman isn't canon what is?
This Jon Snow is just all oh I was dead for a while. No biggie. There was supposed to be a price for that.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 14, 2019 08:53 PM (fuK7c)
And talk about fucked up endings to TV series, they'd have to go a long way to top the final ep of Castle. I'm pretty sure they shot that episode the next afternoon after the show got cancelled.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 14, 2019 08:53 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Tonypete at May 14, 2019 08:53 PM (Y4EXg)
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 14, 2019 08:51 PM (+dsLj)
--------
I'm sorry, I'm already married, but I'm impressed.
Posted by: bluebell at May 14, 2019 08:53 PM (aXucN)
Posted by: freaked at May 14, 2019 08:53 PM (UdKB7)
I liked it, but after that I was good. Didn't need any more.
People invest too much into these shows.
Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2019 08:54 PM (NLLmE)
"Television, a medium. So called, because it neither rare, nor well done."
Ernie Kovacs
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 14, 2019 08:54 PM (MasTK)
Posted by: bluebell at May 14, 2019 08:54 PM (aXucN)
Posted by: Mark1971 at May 14, 2019 08:54 PM (xPl2J)
try command+option+0+f simultaneously.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 14, 2019 08:54 PM (lPsvG)
Posted by: Anachronda at May 14, 2019 08:54 PM (O93mg)
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen
"Do these glasses make my brain look big?"
Posted by: Miklos, knowing a conundrum when he sees one at May 14, 2019 08:54 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2019 08:54 PM (ahS0B)
It's been hinted at since early in season 2 when she threatened to burn down Qarth if they didn't let her in. She didn't do it for two reasons, 1) they did let her in, and 2) she couldn't actually do it because her dragons were small.
She's had it in her to burn cities to the ground (as she liked to say) since early in the show, but it's been her advisers like Jorah and Missandei who held her back. Tyrion was acting in that regard, but she had grown to distrust him. Plus, with Jorah dead and Missandei murdered at the hands of the Mountain under order from Cersei, she was distraught.
On top of that, she's had the love/fear thing working in her since the beginning as well. She's wanted to be loved, but she's never been able to maintain it. The only time the people loved her was either with a mixture of fear like her horde at the beginning of season 2 or the slaves of Mereen, who immediately turned on her because they didn't actually love her. She had learned that fear was the way to control, as she had done with the masters in Slaver's (now Dragon's) Bay.
This has been building up for eight years since she decided to burn the witch alive at the end of season one.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 08:55 PM (5sBuX)
.There's so much television that I've ditched after a season or two when I feel like it's become boring or trite or just plain bad. My current network television viewing includes only MacGyver, which is TERRIBLE, but kills time on Friday nights.
Posted by: Beltway Elite at May 14, 2019 08:55 PM (b6kHD)
Question, Before We Get to the Rest of the Post: bluebell suggested
this question: Which show is ending more disastrously, the BBC's modern
Sherlock or Game of Thrones? I guess we can add in Lost and Twin Peaks
(both the original show and The Return) into the competition, too. Oh,
and I hear Dexter was a disaster at the end, though I never saw a minute
of it.
Posted by: ace at May 14, 2019 08:51 PM (PbpT7
I never saw any of those shows.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Party of One! Personalized Identity Group Kits Now at The Outrage Outlet! at May 14, 2019 08:55 PM (0QYMt)
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 08:55 PM (O3do3)
McLean should have stayed with M*A*SH.
Of course, he's dead now so he don't give a damn.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 14, 2019 08:55 PM (Z+IKu)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 08:55 PM (39g3+)
I have. I saw the coffee cup scene.
Posted by: freaked at May 14, 2019 08:55 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Mark1971 at May 14, 2019 08:55 PM (xPl2J)
The Lord of Light will get his price, probably in the final episode when Jon kills Daenyris and then himself so the Imp ends up on the throne.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 08:55 PM (rqMux)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 14, 2019 08:55 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Miklos Molnar, but in Hungarian is szakacs at May 14, 2019 08:56 PM (QzkSJ)
DD didn't know what to do with the story once the books ran out. My expectations for the show got so low, I actually liked last episode because I thought that they would flinch and not have Dany go Mad Queen.
Posted by: Revenant at May 14, 2019 08:56 PM (bD2Jh)
Sons Of Anachy ending was total bullshit.
The series was garbage when Jackson shot Peggy Bundy in the head. There was no where to go but down from there.
Watching the series was a big waste of time.
Lost was crap. Another waste of time with a stupid, illogical, bullshit ending. NO, THEY WEREN'T ALL DEAD THE WHOLE TIME.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2019 08:56 PM (1n7J/)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 14, 2019 08:56 PM (IfYaq)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2019 08:56 PM (ahS0B)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 14, 2019 08:53 PM (fuK7c)
==========
It does seem to have sapped his desire to lead. Perhaps if he hadn't died and come back, he would have been more willing to claim his rightful place as heir to the Iron Throne. He's a rule bound guy, and his ascension is the rule, but he's letting it go.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 08:56 PM (5sBuX)
-
I'm like that with a few movies (titanic and whatever the James Cameron blue people utopia was come to mind) , and now I actively avoid them because it's become almost a badge of honor.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 14, 2019 08:56 PM (lPsvG)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 08:56 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2019 08:57 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Gilligan at May 14, 2019 08:57 PM (2qPhT)
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 08:57 PM (O3do3)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 08:55 PM (39g3+)
==========
I was never the biggest fan of The Sopranos and mostly found the ending coy and annoying.
I head over heels love the ending to Seinfeld. It's perfect.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 08:57 PM (5sBuX)
The Lord of Light will get his price, probably in the final episode when Jon kills Daenyris and then himself so the Imp ends up on the throne.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 08:55 PM (rqMux)
=========
My theory:
Arya kills Jon, takes his face, kills Dany.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 08:58 PM (5sBuX)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 14, 2019 08:58 PM (X/A4v)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2019 08:58 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 08:58 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Sharkman at May 14, 2019 08:58 PM (fdxBF)
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at May 14, 2019 08:58 PM (jp0Bv)
I'm sorry, I'm already married, but I'm impressed.
****************
Weird, a lot of my Tinder matches say the same thing.
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 14, 2019 08:58 PM (+dsLj)
Posted by: Beltway Elite at May 14, 2019 08:58 PM (b6kHD)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Isn't this, too, the story of Hillary the Ice Queen?
Posted by: Miklos, maybe, maybe not at May 14, 2019 08:58 PM (QzkSJ)
-
Yep. 12 years to save the planet = joking. Actual joking = ban
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 14, 2019 08:58 PM (lPsvG)
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 08:59 PM (O3do3)
He'll crown Sansa instead.
Jon will fuck off to the wildlings or something.
Posted by: ace at May 14, 2019 08:59 PM (PbpT7)
Remember Ser Barristan Selmy?
They built him as a minor character, then killed him off in a pointless fight.
Not In The Book.
Sansa's marriage to Ramsey and her wedding night horror? Yeah, also not in the book.
George Martin is a fraud but the tv show-runners are butchers and hacks.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2019 09:00 PM (t5zu8)
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:00 PM (rqMux)
Posted by: Gilligan at May 14, 2019 09:00 PM (2qPhT)
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen
Grindr has a different business model.
Posted by: Fiercely Heterosexual Miklos at May 14, 2019 09:00 PM (QzkSJ)
Seriously, writing is becoming a lost art with a big segment of the people making TV. They write the original idea, they write stuff salacious enough to get press during the run, but they have no idea about payoff, culmination.
And much of what they do is simply ape stuff they've seen before without a real understanding of why it was the way it was.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 14, 2019 09:00 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Tonypete at May 14, 2019 09:00 PM (Y4EXg)
Imposing glasses are an attempt to fool other people. If you wear Big Serious Glasses on your head, people might think there's something going on inside of it. Even though there's really not. Inside, they are aware that they have no capacity to synthesize knowledge and are actually defenseless in the world of thought.
It's like those lizards that puff up and flash a bit of neck-fringe. "Please take me seriously!"
Posted by: lauraw at May 14, 2019 09:00 PM (/NTv1)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 14, 2019 09:00 PM (IfYaq)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 14, 2019 09:01 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 14, 2019 09:01 PM (lPsvG)
Most men were like WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS FUCKING BULLSHIT, while most women were like, omg look at them hugging each other and that sad music, omg *cries* so wonderful! *sniff* best ending ever *cries*
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 14, 2019 09:01 PM (+dsLj)
Posted by: CN at May 14, 2019 09:01 PM (U7k5w)
He'll crown Sansa instead.
Jon will fuck off to the wildlings or something.
But you agree the Dragon Queen has to be murdered?
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:01 PM (rqMux)
LOL"
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2019 08:56 PM (ahS0B)
Ain't the Internet great? btw, dig that crazy hash.
Posted by: freaked at May 14, 2019 09:01 PM (UdKB7)
Jon will fuck off to the wildlings or something.
That seems to be what they're building to. And Sansa gets put back together with Tyrion as a husband or a hand or something.
Sansa has pretty much always been a twit, but all of a sudden this season she's the Smartest Girl Evah.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 14, 2019 09:01 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 14, 2019 09:00 PM (IfYaq)
==========
Gotta say, that was the weirdest episode of TNG I ever saw.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:01 PM (5sBuX)
Jeebus, they've got 76 board members? What a fustercluck ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Born Again Easter Worshipper at May 14, 2019 09:01 PM (WqPYg)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 09:01 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 08:58 PM (39g3+)
GRRM is the king of nihilism and perversion. I've read some of his short stories. They are well written and the concepts are interesting. The characters though I hated with a passion. They are irredeemable in one way or another. GoT only confirms that. I've watched maybe 15 minutes total and it was enough to convince me I don't need that trash in my mind.
Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at May 14, 2019 09:01 PM (J70i0)
-
RBG lizards.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 14, 2019 09:01 PM (lPsvG)
I understand this change. You know what Sansa did in the books? She did absolutely nothing but get hit on by Littlefinger in some backwaters castle for like three years.
It was repetitive and creepy. NOTHING HAPPENED EXCEPT OCCASIONAL PASSES TO AN UNDERAGE GIRL.
Posted by: ace at May 14, 2019 09:02 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 14, 2019 09:02 PM (IfYaq)
In a way, I've got to hand it to them. Maybe they just figured hey, we're out of ideas, let's just go all Leroy Jenkins.
Posted by: bluebell at May 14, 2019 09:02 PM (aXucN)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 14, 2019 09:02 PM (jXrK7)
She's a slow learner, it's true. But she learns.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:02 PM (rqMux)
dragon girl wakes up in bed next to bob newhart
Posted by: Anachronda at May 14, 2019 09:03 PM (O93mg)
I understand this change. You know what Sansa did in the books? She did absolutely nothing but get hit on by Littlefinger in some backwaters castle for like three years.
It was repetitive and creepy. NOTHING HAPPENED EXCEPT OCCASIONAL PASSES TO AN UNDERAGE GIRL.
Posted by: ace at May 14, 2019 09:02 PM (PbpT7)
===========
I stopped reading after 4.
Breanne wandering around for 150 pages was just too boring.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:03 PM (5sBuX)
The funny thing about the story is it's all taking place in a stinking
backwater of the world. People in Eastros or Africa, or wherever
Slaveers bay is, really don't care what those, apparently brain damaged
and violent, savages are up to.
I know right.
A chimp could be on the throne in Westeros and the people of Mereen or wheverthefuck wouldn't know nor care.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2019 09:03 PM (t5zu8)
https://tinyurl.com/yyxx9d5d
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Party of One! Personalized Identity Group Kits Now at The Outrage Outlet! at May 14, 2019 09:03 PM (0QYMt)
Next.
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 09:03 PM (O3do3)
a hand. I doubt a husband.
BTW, my guess is that Cersei actually survived and escaped and there'll be an epilogue confirming that she's in hiding and very pregnant, but then either Arya or Tyrion will be seen in shadow approaching her.
Posted by: ace at May 14, 2019 09:03 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: CN at May 14, 2019 09:03 PM (U7k5w)
What the fvck? Were you listening to me on Sunday night?
[Is Jon going to kill Daenerys?]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 14, 2019 09:03 PM (wYseH)
Good thing I own copies of Roadhouse and the old Red Dawn.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 14, 2019 09:04 PM (jXrK7)
I loved cumber batch's 1st few episodes as Sherlock, but lost interest about episode 5, because liberal slant in some detail.
Breaking Bad, now THERE was an ending!
Posted by: booknlass at May 14, 2019 09:04 PM (xIKXj)
--------------------------
It almost did end a season before it did. They ended up switching channels with four episodes still left in season 4.
Posted by: junior at May 14, 2019 09:04 PM (Fp6vo)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2019 09:04 PM (t5zu8)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 14, 2019 09:04 PM (X/A4v)
try command+option+0+f simultaneously.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 14, 2019 08:54 PM (lPsvG)
I tried that while restarting and got a gray screen with a flashing globe. I've never seen that before. After a couple of minutes, I hit "enter" and got the regular Mac startup screen.
I don't know anything about the command terminal and would prefer to avoid that if possible. I'll only get myself into trouble.
Posted by: rickl at May 14, 2019 09:04 PM (sdi6R)
**************
I remember John Paul Watson talking about, this basically, whoever underwrites these stories need a guaranteed money makers because it's become too expensive to invest in creative ideas that could lose, and anything that could trigger backlashes, boycotts etc will never be considered.
Take one guess as to who shrieks and boycotts every fucking original idea because it doesn't conform to their worldview?
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 14, 2019 09:05 PM (+dsLj)
I mean, the reveal that Watson's therapist was Uros was frkn awesome. So how do you top that?
With a video game puzzle and some violin duets, #Obvs
Posted by: K-Bob at May 14, 2019 09:05 PM (wduwr)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 14, 2019 09:05 PM (wYseH)
dear lord, the padding. THE PADDING.
Also, all the time in Dorne was a huge waste of time. YES, THE FINAL ONE PARAGRAPH REVEAL THAT THE LAME COWARD PRINCE ACTUALLY HAD A KICKASS VENGEANCE PLAN ALL ALONG, but that did not justify the hours of boring prose about Dorne and other people who don't matter.
Also, Quentin Martel did not matter, and neither does the pretender "Aegon Targaryan" the blackfyres have raised to pretend to be the heir.
this was obvious -- people introduced in book 5 of a 7 book series cannot possibly matter to the endgame.
So just hundreds of boring pages where you absolutely know none of this matters.
Posted by: ace at May 14, 2019 09:06 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: JAS at May 14, 2019 09:06 PM (KOCKb)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 14, 2019 09:04 PM (jXrK7)
----------
Save it for when you have houseguests you want to get rid of.
Posted by: bluebell at May 14, 2019 09:06 PM (aXucN)
Posted by: Chris M at May 14, 2019 09:06 PM (6XZdO)
That whole bullshit with Dorne?? For absolutely nothing.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2019 09:04 PM (t5zu
============
Here's my read on that:
Dorne was in the books, but the showrunners didn't know how they fit in with the endgame, so they included them. When they found out the endgame from Martin, they realized that any contributions they made were inconsequential, so they wrote them out of the show as fast as possible. They obviously never really liked it, and dropped it as fast as they could.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:06 PM (5sBuX)
St. Elsewhere.
It was *all* an autistic kids daydream? Really? What the actual fuck?
I wanted to throw something at the TV when I saw that.
Fun Fact: because of one scene where two of the doctors go out and get a beer, Cheers, Frasier, *and* Wings is all part of that same daydream.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at May 14, 2019 09:06 PM (XQ2Iy)
Posted by: K-Bob at May 14, 2019 09:06 PM (wduwr)
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 09:06 PM (O3do3)
And talk about fucked up endings to TV series, they'd have to go a long way to top the final ep of Castle. I'm pretty sure they shot that episode the next afternoon after the show got cancelled.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 14, 2019 08:53 PM (HaL55)
Yeah, watched it mainly because Stana Katic was very hot and the dialogue was witty.
The last year, it was completely disjointed and the story line sucked. Supposedly Katic and Nathan Fillion hated each other the last couple of years, they shot their lines on separate days.
The last scene was filmed a few years before, and was only intended to be seen if the show was cancelled. Which is it stuck out like a sore thumb.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 14, 2019 09:07 PM (sy5kK)
The only way to create a worse series ending IMHO would have been a Mission:Impossible ending with Jim Phelps murdering his team members then defecting to the USSR. (This is why I refuse to watch any of the MI movies - they made Jim Phelps a bad guy in the first one - aaarrrrgggghhhh!)
Posted by: Gref at May 14, 2019 09:07 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at May 14, 2019 09:07 PM (J70i0)
90% of the Greyjoy shit we suffered through? All for naught.
Urine and Ara Greyjoy were horribly cast.
Episode after episode with the Dorne and Ironborn nonsense. Meanwhile, Varos can jet around the world in the same episode, and the Barathean bastard can run 800 miles and hour.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2019 09:07 PM (t5zu8)
Posted by: bluebell at May 14, 2019 09:07 PM (aXucN)
Then, when they did, it meandered to an anti-climax.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 14, 2019 09:07 PM (oVJmc)
It might be Tyrion, or even Arya, but somebody will. That was the point of Daenyris' sudden violent madness.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:07 PM (rqMux)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
Let's hope so. That show needs more murders.
Posted by: Easily Bored Miklos at May 14, 2019 09:07 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Gilligan at May 14, 2019 09:07 PM (nKMD5)
Posted by: Revenant at May 14, 2019 09:07 PM (bD2Jh)
Posted by: Max Power at May 14, 2019 09:08 PM (q177U)
Posted by: t-bird at May 14, 2019 09:08 PM (asM0l)
The Wars of the Roses had some bad-ass players.
As is usually the case, true life is better than fiction.
Posted by: Marybeth at May 14, 2019 09:08 PM (MEgUr)
Posted by: on the road to Shambala at May 14, 2019 09:08 PM (CL76w)
(Except he lied about that)
Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at May 14, 2019 09:08 PM (rVd/x)
So just hundreds of boring pages where you absolutely know none of this matters.
Posted by: ace at May 14, 2019 09:06 PM (PbpT7)
==========
Martin's a wonderful world builder, but he's shit at telling a long form story. He gets completely lost in the details.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:08 PM (5sBuX)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 14, 2019 09:08 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: bluebell at May 14, 2019 09:08 PM (aXucN)
Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at May 14, 2019 09:09 PM (J70i0)
"The Prisoner" was good. Especially since it was the first big-story-arc series.
Posted by: K-Bob at May 14, 2019 09:09 PM (wduwr)
Now that movie about the fire breathing dragons with the Lincoln-Mercury commercial guy wasn't bad. Didn't recognize him for a long time, he'd bulked up a lot. And now has lost it all, looks like. That was a kind of fun flick.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 14, 2019 09:09 PM (HaL55)
Why did Jamie stop being blonde?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 14, 2019 09:09 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2019 09:09 PM (uEbPt)
***************************
They didn't actually all die on the island, some escaped with the pilot on the plane, so the fucked up scenes where everybody be living perfect fake lives in purgatory had to be way into the future when the ones who escaped died as well, presumably of old age.
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 14, 2019 09:09 PM (+dsLj)
Posted by: rickl at May 14, 2019 09:09 PM (sdi6R)
======
Never tried it personally, but here's an article: https://tinyurl.com/gnjukp2
Posted by: ShainS -- Born Again Easter Worshipper at May 14, 2019 09:09 PM (WqPYg)
Posted by: K-Bob at May 14, 2019 09:10 PM (wduwr)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG6Ook1FyMU
Posted by: Max Power at May 14, 2019 09:10 PM (q177U)
Posted by: bluebell at May 14, 2019 09:10 PM (aXucN)
It might be Tyrion, or even Arya, but somebody will. That was the point of Daenyris' sudden violent madness.
If we're keeping with foreshadowing and the strong resonance of family character in members of the family, Jon would probably hold a trial for barbarity, and then execute her with his family sword, as his father told him the man passing judgment must always do.
Also, he'll blow off Drogon's fire before then because in this version Targaryens are just magically immune to fire.
Maybe he'll even just command it to throw Dany off its back.
Posted by: ace at May 14, 2019 09:10 PM (PbpT7)
"The Prisoner" was good. Especially since it was the first big-story-arc series.
Posted by: K-Bob at May 14, 2019 09:09 PM (wduwr)
==========
The Prisoner's ending...isn't an ending.
The show suddenly stops, has some weird stuff happen, and then the screen goes blank.
Going into filming the final episode, they didn't know how to end it. It was a completely shit show of an ending.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:10 PM (5sBuX)
I can think of a few that need to end.
NCIS-LA sucks even if NCIS remains pretty good.
Just about every Hallmark movie. Ugh.
Foyle's War was superb.
Hmmm so many.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 14, 2019 09:10 PM (0tfLf)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 09:10 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2019 09:10 PM (NLLmE)
Posted by: rickl at May 14, 2019 09:09 PM (sdi6R)
----------
I agree.
Posted by: bluebell at May 14, 2019 09:10 PM (aXucN)
Posted by: Bran Stark, the All Powerful Psychic at May 14, 2019 09:11 PM (PbpT7)
Why did Jamie stop being blonde?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 14, 2019 09:09 PM (fuK7c)
===========
That has bugged me.
Ran out of money for hair dye or wigs, I guess.
It's a cheap show.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:11 PM (5sBuX)
Hated it.
Was actually compelled to pick up the first book (and anyway I was unemployed at the time).
Loved the books. LOVED the books.
So Cersei died in the last episode?
Man, what a dumb bitch.
Any Starks left?
Posted by: Robert at May 14, 2019 09:11 PM (/cL3k)
Yeah well, the entire story line is stolen from British history.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:11 PM (rqMux)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p_Xi3f6Jr1E
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 14, 2019 09:11 PM (+y/Ru)
And the woman who plays Brienne of Tarth...holy cats is she awful in the fight scenes. She is soooo sloooooow. They cannot give her a fake sword light enough for her to swing at normal speed, apparently. She's so flat-footed and heavy-footed.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2019 09:12 PM (6urbU)
Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at May 14, 2019 09:12 PM (J70i0)
Posted by: trapper's girl at May 14, 2019 09:12 PM (DGS6j)
Kind of like real life, most of the time. Hell's bells, just look at Congress.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 14, 2019 09:12 PM (NWiLs)
The ending I'd LIKE to see is Snow somehow kills the last dragon, and then abandons Dani to go back to being King in the North, and she can't stop him. She ends up on the Iron Throne, but it's a hollow victory and eventually some minor noble is going to take it from her, because she's nothing without the dragons.
But what I think they'll end up doing is having Snow attempt a coup, but it fails and he's captured. She decides to publicly execute him with dragon fire.... but she forgets that he's actually a Targaryen, so he survives without a scratch (like when she 'birthed' the dragons). It destroys her claim to the throne, and her supporters abandon her.
Then the red comet returns and hits Kings Landing. Westeros explodes, sending tsunamis across the Narrow Sea to destroy Essos.
Magic fire-breathing cockroaches are the only survivors.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 14, 2019 09:12 PM (eXA4G)
They tried really hard to get the surviving members of the original IMF to play the roles in the first film and they all said "below me" or something to that effect.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 09:12 PM (39g3+)
Tyrion too.
I don't remember either being blonde since season one. And they were both Police-band-mate blonde then.
Then Jamie just became a light brunette and Tyrion got red hair with black roots.
Posted by: ace at May 14, 2019 09:13 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: DOCTOR Christine Blasey Ford at May 14, 2019 09:13 PM (I2/tG)
--------------------------
It almost did end a season before it did. They ended up switching channels with four episodes still left in season 4.
Posted by: junior at May 14, 2019 09:04 PM (Fp6vo)
B5, my favorite subject.
The finale was actually filmed at and for the end of Season 4 (that's why Ivanova was in it) because there was absolutely no plan for season 5 until TNT grabbed it at the last minute.
Yes, there was a lot of tacked-on stuff, some of it was one-off episodes originally planned to be filmed earlier.
However, season 5 has my personal favorite episode - Day of the Dead.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at May 14, 2019 09:13 PM (XQ2Iy)
Posted by: booknlass at May 14, 2019 09:13 PM (xIKXj)
Batman was in that one too. It was actually pretty good.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:13 PM (rqMux)
Posted by: trapper's girl at May 14, 2019 09:13 PM (DGS6j)
Posted by: JAS at May 14, 2019 09:13 PM (KOCKb)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 14, 2019 09:14 PM (9Om/r)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 14, 2019 09:14 PM (miE9U)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 09:14 PM (39g3+)
no. it was weak.
Posted by: trapper's girl at May 14, 2019 09:13 PM (DGS6j)
=====
They died. Their trial is their judgment. They are doomed to repeat their pointless, empty lives in prison forever. It's perfect.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:14 PM (5sBuX)
The answer to the worst ending series for me was "Lost."
I honestly stopped watching TV after that. Not because of Lost, I just found better things to do with my time.
Posted by: Picric at May 14, 2019 09:14 PM (nonGu)
I take it you meant "poseur" rather than poser, because nobody's "posing"., We didn't watch it. We're just rather glad of it-yes,
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2019 09:15 PM (ahS0B)
Posted by: K-Bob at May 14, 2019 09:15 PM (wduwr)
The answer to the worst ending series for me was "Lost."
I honestly stopped watching TV after that. Not because of Lost, I just found better things to do with my time.
Posted by: Picric at May 14, 2019 09:14 PM (nonGu)
==========
Movies are better.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:15 PM (5sBuX)
Take one guess as to who shrieks and boycotts every fucking original idea because it doesn't conform to their worldview?
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 14, 2019 09:05 PM (+dsLj)
I really hoped with Amazon Prime, Netflix, etc. we'd see more risk taking. You could put together a miniseries to tell a story and hopefully get play on one of the streaming services, rather than having to pad out to a 22 episode season.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 14, 2019 09:15 PM (SgjGX)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2019 09:12 PM (6urbU)
Then you are going to hate her next movie...they are remaking Conan The Barbarian, with a chick, and she is the lead character.
[this may or may not be true]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 14, 2019 09:15 PM (wYseH)
High def TV's has killed fight scenes. It's too easy now to pick out the stunt doubles for any extended scene. So, now it's close and quick shots with fast editing. Watching my remaster original Star Trek episodes is interesting because the stunt doubles are so obvious.
Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at May 14, 2019 09:15 PM (J70i0)
Posted by: LASue at May 14, 2019 09:15 PM (XROPS)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 14, 2019 09:15 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 14, 2019 09:15 PM (IfYaq)
Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at May 14, 2019 09:15 PM (rVd/x)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 09:15 PM (39g3+)
Great show that basically lasted 4 seasons too long, was gonna go another season but got clipped so they had to tack on literally a 15 second ending that initially showed Castle and Beckett both shot and dying to them playing with their kids and then blackout.
WTF
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 14, 2019 09:15 PM (+dsLj)
-
TV and I had an implied contract. I'd watch their shows and they wouldn't screw me over but NOOOOOOOO!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 14, 2019 09:16 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Howard Beale at May 14, 2019 09:16 PM (Z+IKu)
Posted by: JAS at May 14, 2019 09:16 PM (KOCKb)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 14, 2019 09:17 PM (HaL55)
It's a cheap show.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:11 PM (5sBuX)
----------
They should have had plenty of money left over from wardrobe. From what I hear there was a lot of economizing there.
Posted by: bluebell at May 14, 2019 09:17 PM (aXucN)
Burn Notice. Damn fine wrap up.
It's the only reason I stick with than new, not-X-Men show. Same show runner.
Posted by: K-Bob at May 14, 2019 09:17 PM (wduwr)
Jaimie being defiant to Sansa in 802 was laughable. "I will not apologize -- I did what I did because we were at war."
Wait, what??
First of all, the first thing Jamie did after eveyone left the meeting was apologize to Bran. Second, when Jamie chased Ned Stark in the street to kill or capture him, they were NOT at war. That was a lie by the show's writers.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2019 09:17 PM (6urbU)
ANYWAYS, she got offered a chance to throw down at Helm's Deep. It would have been a legendarily bad idea and wrecked more than one character arc, and she came out against it. Said Arwen didn't need to be a warrior babe.
Point is, Maisie is a good kid, and given how stupid her KS of the Night King was, she's probably going to have some regrets later.
Posted by: trev006 at May 14, 2019 09:17 PM (OnEJV)
Tyrion has highlights. He's a glam dwarf.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 14, 2019 09:17 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Howard Beale at May 14, 2019 09:16 PM (Z+IKu)
==========
I haven't watched Network in far too long.
Oh well, I already have Escape from L.A. on. Can't interrupt this work of genius.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:17 PM (5sBuX)
But what I think they'll end up doing is having Snow attempt a coup, but it fails and he's captured. She decides to publicly execute him with dragon fire.... but she forgets that he's actually a Targaryen, so he survives without a scratch (like when she 'birthed' the dragons). It destroys her claim to the throne, and her supporters abandon her.
Then the red comet returns and hits Kings Landing. Westeros explodes, sending tsunamis across the Narrow Sea to destroy Essos.
Magic fire-breathing cockroaches are the only survivors.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 14, 2019 09:12 PM (eXA4G)
She arrests Jon, the northmen revolt, and everyone dies except for Tyrion, who wanders the ruins of a dead continent drinking from a wine-skin and muttering, "oh fuck me."
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 14, 2019 09:17 PM (SgjGX)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 14, 2019 09:17 PM (miE9U)
I did. it was as if it were recycled, but better.
Posted by: booknlass at May 14, 2019 09:17 PM (xIKXj)
Posted by: Howard Beale at May 14, 2019 09:17 PM (KOCKb)
************
Seinfeld was ok, I like how they did a tribute to all the zany minor characters that helped drive the show. It was a fitting sendoff even if it was a generally crap finale.
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 14, 2019 09:18 PM (+dsLj)
Also, know to cause diarrhea. Why do they always cause diarrhea?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 14, 2019 09:18 PM (jXrK7)
No, he didn't finish the series because he didn't know what the story was going to be and realized he could just wade neck deep in whores and cocaine without bothering to touch a keyboard ever again.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 09:18 PM (39g3+)
*snort* I just had a vision of Keith sitting on the Iron Throne with his guitar taking the place of the sword.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:18 PM (rqMux)
Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2019 09:18 PM (NLLmE)
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 14, 2019 09:18 PM (WNAuL)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2019 09:18 PM (6urbU)
It probably is.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:19 PM (rqMux)
see more risk taking. You could put together a miniseries to tell a
story and hopefully get play on one of the streaming services, rather
than having to pad out to a 22 episode season.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 14, 2019 09:15 PM (SgjGX)
It might have but they hired the SJW types to run their studios. It's why The Man in the High Castle crashed in season 3. Why Stranger Things added another girl character that was really annoying. They've been captured by the hive mind.
Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at May 14, 2019 09:19 PM (J70i0)
The Kingkiller Chronicles is in a similar plight: the books aren't finished and they are about to begin production of a movie.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2ub5lnd
Posted by: Max Power at May 14, 2019 09:19 PM (q177U)
well... AKSHUALLY... if you remember, Caitlyn Stark had captured Tyrion and intended to execute him after a show trial for a crime we all know he was innocent of.
THAT'S what caused that fight in King's Landing -- Jamie wanted to capture Ned so they could do an exchange of hostages to get his (quite innocent) brother back.
That's close enough to a war.
Posted by: ace at May 14, 2019 09:19 PM (PbpT7)
Maybe they had plans to reboot it in a couple of years but Gandolfini's death screwed up their plans.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 14, 2019 09:19 PM (2DOZq)
Well, maybe now you have. I think I've seen that I should read the first three books, though.
Posted by: t-bird at May 14, 2019 09:19 PM (n6bs1)
Posted by: JAS at May 14, 2019 09:20 PM (KOCKb)
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at May 14, 2019 09:20 PM (XQ2Iy)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 14, 2019 09:20 PM (9Om/r)
Alors. Tu veux parler de la choix des mots? Ils sont la meme chose. La meme merde.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 14, 2019 09:20 PM (fuK7c)
especially when the bad guy fell into the hole and stapped himself in the neck. he thought he was all that and givens just smiled.
Posted by: trapper's girl at May 14, 2019 09:20 PM (DGS6j)
Alors. Tu veux parler de la choix des mots? Ils sont la meme chose. La meme merde.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 14, 2019 09:20 PM (fuK7c)
===========
Quelle horreur...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:20 PM (5sBuX)
Posted by: JAS at May 14, 2019 09:20 PM (KOCKb)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 09:21 PM (39g3+)
The Psi War was an interesting concept.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
I felt unfulfilled because I wanted to see Garibaldi beat Bester to a bloody pulp. Repeatedly.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2019 09:21 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2019 09:12 PM (6urbU)
Between Brienne and Phasma, I'm surprised her actress can get out of bed. She's the ultimate victim of Badass Decay. Eowyn could clean her clock, any time, any place.
Posted by: trev006 at May 14, 2019 09:21 PM (OnEJV)
It might have but they hired the SJW types to run their studios. It's why The Man in the High Castle crashed in season 3. Why Stranger Things added another girl character that was really annoying. They've been captured by the hive mind.
Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at May 14, 2019 09:19 PM (J70i0)
I didn't mind season 3. I thought the ending was interesting. I'm glad that season 4 will be the last, however.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 14, 2019 09:21 PM (SgjGX)
FenelonDirection18 at sign gmail.com
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2019 09:21 PM (ahS0B)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2019 09:21 PM (6urbU)
I would like to apologize to the various filmmakers I besmirched. People ARE idiots.
Posted by: nip at May 14, 2019 09:21 PM (RXwUQ)
But...
I think the intent was to NOT give her cover for her ruthlessness and total lack of real empathy towards the people. She never actually cared for the common people. Like Democrats, her interest in "breaking chains" in winning the moniker, not in the actual act of freeing and empowering and valuing people.
She had always grown up as an elite, even if out of power for a period of time. It is John Snow who has an understanding of not being elite and what it is to be considered an other.
And *that* drives the Libs outtatheirfreaking... :-D
Posted by: TSgt Ciz at May 14, 2019 09:21 PM (af5xa)
Posted by: JAS at May 14, 2019 09:21 PM (KOCKb)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 14, 2019 09:15 PM (2DOZq)
There is truth to this statement. But the Democrats are flat out crazy, so I'm not worried.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 14, 2019 09:21 PM (sy5kK)
I watched the first season of GoT and it bored the hell out of me. Same with Mad Man...actually I thought Man Men was smug, preachy shit
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 14, 2019 09:21 PM (uvC8U)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 09:18 PM (39g3+)
Nailed it. He's done writing.
Posted by: Max Power at May 14, 2019 09:21 PM (q177U)
Posted by: davidt at May 14, 2019 09:22 PM (EfMCv)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 14, 2019 09:22 PM (9Om/r)
I wouldn't -- it's incomplete and probably will never be completed. GRRM is EIGHT YEARS late on the sixth book, and the seventh? Good Lord, who knows? Guy is old and very fat. The Seventh book will almost certainly be written by some hack chosen by his estate.
Also, there's some guy that GRRM stole many of the biggest bits of this story from, a writer that GRRM has said that he likes a lot. I'd just find that writer (sorry don't remember the name) and read that guy's FINISHED story.
Posted by: ace at May 14, 2019 09:22 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 09:22 PM (39g3+)
They let the Cylons fly off with all their ships, pit everyone on Earth without even a toothbrush, and sent all their ships into the sun.
Utterly retarded.
Posted by: Mortis at May 14, 2019 09:22 PM (9JhRE)
OMG, that is so utterly incorrect.
Don followed the new agers all the way to Esalen and saw how hollow it all was. Then he made the Coke ad.
It's the most perfectly cynical ending ever.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 14, 2019 09:22 PM (fuK7c)
She had always grown up as an elite, even if out of power for a period of time. It is John Snow who has an understanding of not being elite and what it is to be considered an other.
And *that* drives the Libs outtatheirfreaking... :-D
Posted by: TSgt Ciz at May 14, 2019 09:21 PM (af5xa)
=========
She broke the wheel.
And the cart.
And the road.
Burnt the horse to a crisp.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:22 PM (5sBuX)
Can I just tell you since we are here? My friend Rhett fell off his roof and broke 8 ribs and his wrist. Lacerated liver and all that too. He just got out of SICU and into rehab.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:23 PM (rqMux)
Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2019 09:23 PM (NLLmE)
Posted by: davidt at May 14, 2019 09:22 PM (EfMCv)
=========
Deadwood movie later this year.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:23 PM (5sBuX)
all the zany minor characters that helped drive the show. It was a
fitting sendoff even if it was a generally crap finale.
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 14, 2019 09:18 PM (+dsLj)
I always thought they should have done an episode where Jerry realizes he really doesn't know anyone. Chevy Chase comes looking for Elaine about a Christmas tree. Kramer is taken away by Weird Al back to the TV station. Newman is going on a programming gig to a remote island.
Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at May 14, 2019 09:23 PM (J70i0)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2019 09:23 PM (6urbU)
Posted by: Cat ass trophy at May 14, 2019 09:23 PM (dNzKv)
Posted by: spindrift at May 14, 2019 09:23 PM (2nWId)
You just know Lyta was going to come back and pop Bester's head like in Scanners.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 09:23 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2019 09:21 PM (aKsyK)
Oh hell yeah. He also should have boinked that grunt chick.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 14, 2019 09:23 PM (9Om/r)
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2ub5lnd
Posted by: Max Power at May 14, 2019 09:19 PM (q177U)
I dislike epic fantasy for this reason. Write a fucking trilogy and be done with it.* Have another story to tell? Write a separate fucking trilogy. No more of this 14 book saga crap.
*I think the Kingkiller Chronicles are a trilogy, but when your books are that long, they no longer count. You're writing 2-3 books all crammed together.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 14, 2019 09:23 PM (SgjGX)
Now that I think about it, I get worked up and pissed off about music and architecture when it fucks up something from the past, so I guess I get when people feel really let down by a show. It's just not my thing, I guess.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 14, 2019 09:24 PM (X/A4v)
Posted by: Tonypete at May 14, 2019 09:24 PM (Y4EXg)
Posted by: Wu at May 14, 2019 09:24 PM (EfMCv)
If you ever meet one in person you'll feel nothing but pity, and the desire to remind them to register in an already blue district.
Posted by: DaveA at May 14, 2019 09:24 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: K-Bob at May 14, 2019 09:09 PM (wduwr)
The ending didn't make a lot of sense.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 14, 2019 09:24 PM (uvC8U)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 09:21 PM (39g3+)
People love it when you tell them they just don't get it.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 14, 2019 09:24 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 14, 2019 09:24 PM (t+qrx)
he actually writes a bunch of side-projects like histories of westeros and stories about Dunk & Egg (two heroes of a previous generation in westeros).
But he just won't write the book people are begging him to write. Could be writer's block, could be that he's afraid that the books have become so popular that it is now beyond his capacity to satisfy the audience and he'd rather be known as the Guy Who Wrote an Incomplete Masterpiece than the Guy Who Wrote a Very Long Fantasy Series Which Was Meh.
Posted by: ace at May 14, 2019 09:24 PM (PbpT7)
Nope; Posing is not the same as bragging.
Boo hoo
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2019 09:24 PM (ahS0B)
Posted by: JAS at May 14, 2019 09:24 PM (KOCKb)
Posted by: Nurse ratched at May 14, 2019 09:24 PM (LShXE)
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 09:24 PM (O3do3)
The ending didn't make a lot of sense.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 14, 2019 09:24 PM (uvC8U)
==========
They didn't know what the ending was going to be until they filmed it. Literally.
Even then, they didn't really know.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:25 PM (5sBuX)
Posted by: Picric at May 14, 2019 09:25 PM (nonGu)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2019 08:57 PM (aKsyK)
Leave it to Beaver did end with a nice wrap up of the show and explain where the nickname Beaver came from. I wonder if that was the first show to provide a wrap up episode?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 14, 2019 09:25 PM (uvC8U)
Posted by: Cat ass trophy at May 14, 2019 09:25 PM (dNzKv)
I keep saying that Brandon Sanderson should dress up as the Grim Reaper and follow GRRM around conventions asking, "are you finished with the next book yet?"
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 14, 2019 09:25 PM (SgjGX)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 14, 2019 09:26 PM (IfYaq)
The worst.
SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:26 PM (rqMux)
Posted by: JAS at May 14, 2019 09:20 PM (KOCKb)
Ooof...
I'd love to say I'd go for my sword, but you have chosen the Morning, and I love the Evening. To me, there are photographs where Evangeline looks much older than the films... I've never seen one where Liv looks less than stunning. And that's her real hair in the film.
Posted by: trev006 at May 14, 2019 09:26 PM (OnEJV)
SPOILERS...
I for one am convinced, it goes to black because you're looking at Tony's very last seconds on earth.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 14, 2019 09:26 PM (miE9U)
The series was garbage when Jackson shot Peggy Bundy in the head. There was no where to go but down from there.
SoA lost me way before that. The end of Season 3, I think.
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 14, 2019 09:26 PM (WNAuL)
The big bad evil businessman returns to Deadwood as a Senator and does evil.
I sure hope it isn't a Trump-Bashing.
Posted by: davidt at May 14, 2019 09:26 PM (EfMCv)
The worst.
SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:26 PM (rqMux)
=========
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE HE WON'T GET THE JOKE BECAUSE HE HASN'T SEEN ANY OF GAME OF THRONES!!!
Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger at May 14, 2019 09:26 PM (5sBuX)
Also, know to cause diarrhea. Why do they always cause diarrhea?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 14, 2019 09:18 PM (jXrK7)
Hmm, never have tried that.
Have you tried Sukrin? Erythritol-based and best artificial sweetener I've ever used. Could have nasty side effects, but I been using it for almost 2 years and haven't experienced any.
Scandi product, though . . .
Posted by: Marybeth at May 14, 2019 09:26 PM (MEgUr)
Posted by: Nurse ratched at May 14, 2019 09:24 PM (LShXE)
Buffy should have ended after season 3. The show worked when the monsters were veiled references to the struggles of high school.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 14, 2019 09:26 PM (SgjGX)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2019 09:27 PM (ahS0B)
Posted by: Miklos, just Miklos at May 14, 2019 09:27 PM (QzkSJ)
I watched the firs season of The Man in the High Castle and it had three intriguing episodes then it stopped dead until the end of the season. I wrote off the series because of that, and I've seen it in other made-for-streaming series as well.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 14, 2019 09:27 PM (oVJmc)
Can I just tell you since we are here? My friend Rhett fell off his roof and broke 8 ribs and his wrist. Lacerated liver and all that too. He just got out of SICU and into rehab.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:23 PM (rqMux)
Prayers up for your friend Rhett, Grump928(C)!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 14, 2019 09:27 PM (sy5kK)
actress can get out of bed. She's the ultimate victim of Badass Decay.
Eowyn could clean her clock, any time, any place.
Posted by: trev006 at May 14, 2019 09:21 PM (OnEJV)
Ummm, Eowyn. Shield maiden of the second amendment of sword wielding.
Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at May 14, 2019 09:27 PM (J70i0)
As I recall it was both satisfying and a little sad.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 14, 2019 09:27 PM (miE9U)
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 14, 2019 09:24 PM (t+qrx)
Dying over here. You could sell this to Soros and he could cut 50% of his overhead.
Posted by: trev006 at May 14, 2019 09:27 PM (OnEJV)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 14, 2019 09:27 PM (2DOZq)
We get most of our deliveries from Amazon trucks now. I see them all over the place in Columbus. Nice polite delivery men also.
Posted by: Tuna at May 14, 2019 09:27 PM (jm1YL)
The Prisoner" was good.
Posted by: K-Bob at May 14, 2019 09:09 PM (wduwr)
The ending didn't make a lot of sense.
Posted by: TheQuietMan
All you need is love...
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2019 09:28 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Cat ass trophy at May 14, 2019 09:28 PM (dNzKv)
I did. it was as if it were recycled, but better.
Posted by: booknlass at May 14, 2019 09:17 PM (xIKXj)
Downton lifted a lot from Upstairs Downstairs except that Downton was ridiculous with a lot of its story lines and modern bullshit in the 20s. The Upstairs Downstairs from the 70s was better
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 14, 2019 09:28 PM (uvC8U)
Posted by: josephistan at May 14, 2019 09:28 PM (Izzlo)
I watched the firs season of The Man in the High Castle and it had three intriguing episodes then it stopped dead until the end of the season. I wrote off the series because of that, and I've seen it in other made-for-streaming series as well.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 14, 2019 09:27 PM (oVJmc)
=========
Movies are better. Most have beginnings middles and ends right there in just a couple of hours.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:28 PM (5sBuX)
Posted by: Cat ass trophy at May 14, 2019 09:25 PM (dNzKv)
Ummmmmmmmm....No.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 14, 2019 09:28 PM (Z+IKu)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2019 09:12 PM (6urbU)
Most of the fight scenes in GoT were painfully bad.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 14, 2019 09:28 PM (SgjGX)
Posted by: JAS at May 14, 2019 09:28 PM (KOCKb)
I'm sorry your friend is having such problems. I will include him.
If anyone else has any others requests please write me because I'm going to sleep.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2019 09:28 PM (ahS0B)
They remade it in America with Harvey Keitel of all people. The ending of the British show was pretty good. The ending of the American one is honestly one of the stupidest things in the history of all forms of entertainment, ever.
I'm talking hundreds of thousands of millikohns.
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2019 09:28 PM (uEbPt)
Not enough boobies.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:28 PM (rqMux)
Buffy should have ended after season 3. The show worked when the monsters were veiled references to the struggles of high school.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 14, 2019 09:26 PM (SgjGX)
Yes and it got very lefty political starting with season 4
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 14, 2019 09:29 PM (uvC8U)
sons of anarchy however just got weirder and weirder. i stopped watching. peggy bundy's real life husband's writing is over the top and grody.
Posted by: trapper's girl at May 14, 2019 09:29 PM (DGS6j)
Posted by: Nurse ratched at May 14, 2019 09:24 PM (LShXE)
Buffy should have ended after season 3. The show worked when the
monsters were veiled references to the struggles of high school.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 14, 2019 09:26 PM (SgjGX)
Yeah, HS school graduation would have made a good series ending. After that it became preachy nonsense.
Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at May 14, 2019 09:29 PM (J70i0)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
Precisely.
End it. Give me and ending.
Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2019 09:29 PM (NLLmE)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2019 09:12 PM (6urbU)
Most of the fight scenes in GoT were painfully bad.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 14, 2019 09:28 PM (SgjGX)
========
I finally noticed that on this most recent rewatch.
Everything's filmed really close and edited to shit.
They're pretty much incomprehensible.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:29 PM (5sBuX)
It is good they are getting branded trucks. A few times some shady guy got out of a rapey van and brought a box to our door. Kind of weird.
Posted by: Cat ass trophy at May 14, 2019 09:29 PM (dNzKv)
Strategy and tactics are painful to watch. It really is an island of braindamaged brutes.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:29 PM (rqMux)
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:30 PM (rqMux)
I loved that show. Gene Hunt was awesome. The second series set in the 80s with the woman cop didn't work at all
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 14, 2019 09:30 PM (uvC8U)
TV series weren't that much better. There was a hell of a lot of filler to get to 22 episodes per season, and the episodic format made it worse, IMHO. At least with the streaming shows it seems like it tries to advance the plot and set things up for the finale.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 14, 2019 09:30 PM (SgjGX)
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 09:30 PM (O3do3)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2019 09:30 PM (ahS0B)
Why do leftist hags always wear big ass glasses?--Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen
I first noticed this phenomenon with Linda Ellerbee in the 1980s. The big glasses, plus every sentence out of her mouth was delivered dripping with feminist "attitude".
Like this quote:
"If men can run the world, why can't they stop wearing neckties? How intelligent is it to start the day tying a little noose around your neck?"
I'll bet the emasculated cucks in the NPR newsroom thought that was a real thigh-slapper.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at May 14, 2019 09:31 PM (DwzBO)
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:29 PM (rqMux)
It's set in Hawai'i?
Posted by: josephistan at May 14, 2019 09:31 PM (Izzlo)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 14, 2019 09:31 PM (IfYaq)
Strategy and tactics are painful to watch. It really is an island of braindamaged brutes.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:29 PM (rqMux)
===========
"We can't share this script with some random guy who understands medieval battle tactics. He might give something up to the internet! We'll just wing it."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:31 PM (5sBuX)
Perfect. At least we'd have some closure for Tony.
Posted by: Tuna at May 14, 2019 09:31 PM (jm1YL)
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2019 09:31 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: raimondoklos, cribbing from Ye Martin of Hog at May 14, 2019 09:31 PM (QzkSJ)
Everything's filmed really close and edited to shit.
They're pretty much incomprehensible.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:29 PM (5sBuX)
Poorly edited, poorly choreographed, just plain silly.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 14, 2019 09:31 PM (SgjGX)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
That was due to the studios cancelling and then un-cancelling it. The final episode of the series was actually shot during Season 4 since they didn't know if Season 5 was going to happen. It's why Season 5 is kind of uneven.
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 14, 2019 09:31 PM (WNAuL)
Posted by:hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 14, 2019 09:24 PM (t+qrx)
Dying over here. You could sell this to Soros and he could cut 50% of his overhead.
Posted by: trev006 at May 14, 2019 09:27 PM (OnEJV)
Now I understand. Raimondo just cuts and pastes some random part of that, and then posts it.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 14, 2019 09:31 PM (sy5kK)
Astros, 11 - Tigers, 4. Guys are tearing the cover off the ball recently. The only game they've lost in the last dozen? Yeah, the one Her Majesty and I went to.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 14, 2019 09:31 PM (X3lUd)
Beating Cliff to death, burying him in a field, and shutting up.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 14, 2019 09:32 PM (oVJmc)
Erythritol, Xylitol, and Allulose are the best I have tried so far with Allulose tasting about 98% the same as sugar, just not as sweet so you have to use twice as much. As far as taste goes, the Allulose is way ahead of the other 2.
I didn't have any issues with the 1st 2, but the Allulose was a different story. Maybe I just need to build up a tolerance.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 14, 2019 09:32 PM (jXrK7)
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 09:30 PM (O3do3)
=========
His ultimate battle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krQHQvtIr6w
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:32 PM (5sBuX)
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 14, 2019 09:21 PM (SgjGX)
I thought the ending was horrible and rushed. They spent episodes on homo-sex, killing formerly key characters, and following minor characters no one cared about. It was simply bad.
Personal belief is that they realized they actually made the Nazis look kind of good in season two and overcompensated.
Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at May 14, 2019 09:32 PM (J70i0)
Posted by: JAS at May 14, 2019 09:32 PM (KOCKb)
Brienne's fight scene when she saves Sansa in the woods showed Brienne to be slow, clumsy, and lucky.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2019 09:32 PM (6urbU)
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:32 PM (rqMux)
Posted by: Max Power at May 14, 2019 09:32 PM (q177U)
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 09:32 PM (O3do3)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 14, 2019 09:33 PM (X/A4v)
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2019 09:33 PM (uEbPt)
NONE of the Prisoner made sense. I rationalized it by figuring they designed the island to keep spies busy trying to figure things out and make sense of it but it never does, and cannot. Plus it was kind of the thing at the time to do bizarre and confusing crap on British TV. Look at the Avengers. People hated the movie because it was so weird with the bear costume and so on but... the show was bizarre too
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 09:33 PM (39g3+)
The cinematography was light years better. Upstairs was in a sound stage mostly. While DA was at that gorgeous estate.
Posted by: booknlass at May 14, 2019 09:33 PM (xIKXj)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 14, 2019 09:33 PM (2DOZq)
The guy who used to make all the Olympics documentaries always had huge glasses on his head. He was bald and/or head shaved.
You never saw him look through the glasses, they were just head furniture.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 14, 2019 09:34 PM (fuK7c)
Sons of Anarchy was explicitly inspired by Hamlet. Writers, producers, and actors on the show were stating on record that no characters were going to be walking away from the ending at almost every opportunity.
Posted by: Luke at May 14, 2019 09:34 PM (LcCGY)
he actually writes a bunch of side-projects like histories of westeros and stories about Dunk & Egg (two heroes of a previous generation in westeros).
But he just won't write the book people are begging him to write. Could be writer's block, could be that he's afraid that the books have become so popular that it is now beyond his capacity to satisfy the audience and he'd rather be known as the Guy Who Wrote an Incomplete Masterpiece than the Guy Who Wrote a Very Long Fantasy Series Which Was Meh.
Posted by: ace at May 14, 2019 09:24 PM (PbpT7)
I kind of think he's likely written himself into a spot that has all these threads and he has no clue how to start resolving all of them to get to the end he had planned.
Also he had his big mystery of Jon Snow's parentage that everyone figured out and the show needed to confirm so that probably has his little tantrum head going.
Posted by: buzzion at May 14, 2019 09:34 PM (WaxcS)
----
Harry "The Hat" Anderson took care of Gary's a few episodes before the finale.
Posted by: josephistan at May 14, 2019 09:34 PM (Izzlo)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 14, 2019 09:33 PM (2DOZq)
=========
Time...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:34 PM (5sBuX)
Posted by: esch at May 14, 2019 09:34 PM (heg29)
I didn't have any issues with the 1st 2, but the Allulose was a different story. Maybe I just need to build up a tolerance.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 14, 2019 09:32 PM
Where does one buy these products?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2019 09:34 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Sooner at May 14, 2019 09:34 PM (wD1/u)
It was okay but she really was a different Buffy than the movie version.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 09:34 PM (39g3+)
I DID get hooked by BB & saw all of it-- including the scenes on tape after each episode, i.e., where the director & actors discuss each episode.
I thought the BB ending was appropriate & satisfying. My only major concern about BB was how unbelievably DIM DEA S/A Hank was.
Posted by: mnw at May 14, 2019 09:34 PM (Cssks)
Posted by: Ex-ex at May 14, 2019 09:34 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 14, 2019 09:33 PM (2DOZq)
---
Yep.
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2019 09:35 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by:hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 14, 2019 09:24 PM (t+qrx)
That's mighty impressive. And not all that off-topic. You know... GoT/WoT.
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2019 09:35 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 14, 2019 09:31 PM (IfYaq)
That's the problem with good characters in an actual drama. They die, and there's a hole that just can't be filled again. GoT killed so goddamn many characters, they had to resort to resurrection just to keep the audience mildly interested.
And in the end, the payoff was so minimal it devastates their reputation, instantly.
Posted by: trev006 at May 14, 2019 09:35 PM (OnEJV)
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:35 PM (rqMux)
Heh. I wear big ass glasses and I'm no leftist. Not a hag either.
Posted by: Tuna at May 14, 2019 09:35 PM (jm1YL)
Posted by: rexbatt at May 14, 2019 09:35 PM (aJZZt)
Posted by: JackStraw at May 14, 2019 09:35 PM (/tuJf)
Personal belief is that they realized they actually made the Nazis look kind of good in season two and overcompensated.
Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at May 14, 2019 09:32 PM (J70i0)
The gay character arc was annoying, but I think the two characters killed off wasn't too bad. I suspect that they know the show was heading towards a final season and wanted to clear some of the subplots before then, which is a nice change from the usual practice. Also, the show is based off a single book, so they have to be running a bit then with material and running into the logical inconsistencies of the world.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 14, 2019 09:35 PM (SgjGX)
---
I'm tempted to buy his newest book just for the Doug Wheatley illustrations.
Posted by: josephistan at May 14, 2019 09:36 PM (Izzlo)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2019 09:36 PM (6urbU)
Posted by: JAS at May 14, 2019 09:36 PM (KOCKb)
Posted by: Hayden Sterling at May 14, 2019 09:36 PM (9Wd39)
I know the body chemistry/physiology is different, but as I understand it, Xylitol is deadly for those of the canine persuasion, so I will NOT have it in my house!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 14, 2019 09:36 PM (3hr5B)
Sons of Anarchy was explicitly inspired by Hamlet. Writers, producers, and actors on the show were stating on record that no characters were going to be walking away from the ending at almost every opportunity.
Posted by: Luke at May 14, 2019 09:34 PM (LcCGY)
Fuck that's interesting. No Homo.
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 09:37 PM (O3do3)
un-cancelling it. The final episode of the series was actually shot
during Season 4 since they didn't know if Season 5 was going to happen.
It's why Season 5 is kind of uneven.
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 14, 2019 09:31 PM (WNAuL)
Plus, JMS was simply spent by season five. He crammed two seasons into season four and then was out of ideas. It would have been better had he said he was done. Add in that there was no Ivanova.
Sadly, WB will never put out a remastered version. The show is even show in widescreen, but WB would have to pony up the cash to redo the effects.One episode, you see a crew member sitting on a crate watching the filming.
Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at May 14, 2019 09:37 PM (J70i0)
what was worse was the stupid hillary and bill campaign ad.
Posted by: trapper's girl at May 14, 2019 09:37 PM (DGS6j)
Sons Of Anachy ending was total bullshit.
The series was garbage when Jackson shot Peggy Bundy in the head. There was no where to go but down from there.
SOA had an internal weakness in that Jax took his old man*s anarchy bullshit seriously. It all boiled down to the same old let*s start from scratch and make our own world leftist crap. It was boring. Also the whole season they were in Ireland I couldn*t understand wtf anyone who was irish was saying.
Posted by: Clay, unimpressed with your wokeness at May 14, 2019 09:37 PM (784ZQ)
Posted by: Cat ass trophy at May 14, 2019 09:29 PM (dNzKv)
What's in the box?
Posted by: Brad Pitt at May 14, 2019 09:37 PM (/cL3k)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
I got the good stuff.
*discreetly opens raincoat*
Posted by: "Jeff" Bezos at May 14, 2019 09:37 PM (QzkSJ)
Sons of Anarchy was explicitly inspired by Hamlet. Writers, producers, and actors on the show were stating on record that no characters were going to be walking away from the ending at almost every opportunity.
Posted by: Luke at May 14, 2019 09:34 PM (LcCGY)
Fuck that's interesting. No Homo.
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 09:37 PM (O3do3)
===========
All of Deadwood's dialogue is in iambic pentameter.
Once I realized that, I began enjoying the show so much more. It was weird.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:37 PM (zZbCU)
Sunday's episode with Danaerys nuking the city actually pleasantly surprised me, because I thought the writers were getting too chummy pleasing the SJW fans with that character's revenge porn.There were many clues about her viciousness, and now the writers finally made her a villain, and spent a good chunk of the episode showing the human cost of life - soldiers being slaughtered after surrending, and innocent civilians running for their lives and being burnt to crisps. So I expect her to die in the final episode.Normally I avoid all fandom and fan reactions to anything I watch - but I couldn't help revel in the tears and anger this episode brought.
Posted by: fb at May 14, 2019 09:37 PM (D/cuw)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 14, 2019 09:32 PM (oVJmc)
Hey, Cliff was ex-Air Force SpecOps.
A real bad ass. Sgt. Kopecki in "Twilight's Last Gleaming" before he joined the USPS.
He would have taken a few of those alkies with him.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 14, 2019 09:38 PM (Z+IKu)
Kids show, comedy, ends with the EXTINCTION OF THE DINOSAURS (caused by the main character).
I still can't decide if that was terrible or brilliant.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at May 14, 2019 09:38 PM (8g9zh)
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:38 PM (rqMux)
Posted by: Eromero at May 14, 2019 09:38 PM (qBNEP)
I don't think I've watched anything on PBS in, say, a couple of decades. It's a complete and total zero in my life.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 14, 2019 09:38 PM (X3lUd)
Also, know to cause diarrhea. Why do they always cause diarrhea?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 14, 2019 09:18 PM (jXrK7)
Hmm, never have tried that.
Have you tried Sukrin? Erythritol-based and best artificial sweetener I've ever used. Could have nasty side effects, but I been using it for almost 2 years and haven't experienced any.
Scandi product, though . . .
Posted by: Marybeth at May 14, 2019 09:26 PM (MEgUr)
I've been using Monkfruit. It's supposed to have no effect on insulin levels.
Posted by: Iris at May 14, 2019 09:38 PM (6lKe4)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 14, 2019 09:38 PM (yahgy)
Posted by: literally serious
Gator = Burt Reynolds
360 Farscape finale movie after it was cancelled was good.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 14, 2019 09:33 PM (2DOZq)
Another show that was suddenly cancelled. That was a fine movie and it tied up the loose ends fairly well. Farscape was a fine bit of SciFi.
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 14, 2019 09:38 PM (WNAuL)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 09:39 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2019 09:39 PM (6urbU)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 14, 2019 09:39 PM (2DOZq)
Episode 5 was just overkill and rushed. Do not know how it is gonna wrap up, but I have really enjoyed the characters and their interactions.
The Americans is a great show. The ending was perfect and believable. If you have not watched it on Amazon Prime, I urge you to start watching. Fantastic show.
Seinfeld was Meh.
Lost was a complete waste of 5 years. Worst ending EVER.
I enjoyed Mad Men. The whole series was just so well done and impressive. I have a crush on Jon Hamm.
Posted by: Czech Chick at May 14, 2019 09:39 PM (haWye)
Sons of Anarchy was explicitly inspired by Hamlet. Writers, producers, and actors on the show were stating on record that no characters were going to be walking away from the ending at almost every opportunity.
Posted by: Luke at May 14, 2019 09:34 PM (LcCGY)
Yeah, but they pretty much abandoned the Hamlet theme almost immediately, in favor of B-movie biker culture glorification.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 14, 2019 09:39 PM (eXA4G)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 14, 2019 09:39 PM (jXrK7)
Note: PDJT isn't a politician.
What is the PDJT of TV shows? For me, "The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel" (so far).
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 14, 2019 09:39 PM (NMAzL)
Walking Dead became unwatchable around Season 5 for me. Went from awesome to shit pretty fast.
Breaking Bad never had a bad episode IMO.
Posted by: Comrade Bernie at May 14, 2019 09:39 PM (FiUMj)
Ned is killed shortly after that. He's a free man for only like a DAY or two, and then he's in the prison alone until his execution.
Varys visits him, sure. But...
Cersei would do the same thing to Jon that Robert would do. She's even more ruthless, as Ned finds out.
Posted by: ace at May 14, 2019 09:39 PM (PbpT7)
Sunday's episode with Danaerys nuking the city actually pleasantly surprised me, because I thought the writers were getting too chummy pleasing the SJW fans with that character's revenge porn.There were many clues about her viciousness, and now the writers finally made her a villain, and spent a good chunk of the episode showing the human cost of life - soldiers being slaughtered after surrending, and innocent civilians running for their lives and being burnt to crisps. So I expect her to die in the final episode.Normally I avoid all fandom and fan reactions to anything I watch - but I couldn't help revel in the tears and anger this episode brought.
Posted by: fb at May 14, 2019 09:37 PM (D/cuw)
==========
I loved it. It's probably my favorite episode of the series.
And it's explicitly because they'd built up Dany's viciousness, which has ALWAYS been just below the surface, pretty much since the beginning of the show.
I'm removed from fandom, so I was shocked to see the reaction around me. It seems like I'm part of a very small population that actually likes it. And I'm okay with that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:39 PM (5sBuX)
Posted by: Comrade Bernie at May 14, 2019 09:40 PM (FiUMj)
Imagine if Ned said something to somebody about Jon Snow...
The series would be done in one season.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2019 09:40 PM (6urbU)
Sons of Anarchy was explicitly inspired by Hamlet. Writers, producers, and actors on the show were stating on record that no characters were going to be walking away from the ending at almost every opportunity.
Posted by: Luke at May 14, 2019 09:34 PM (LcCGY)
Fuck that's interesting. No Homo.
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 09:37 PM (O3do3)
===========
All of Deadwood's dialogue is in iambic pentameter.
Once I realized that, I began enjoying the show so much more. It was weird.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:37 PM (zZbCU)
So what y'all are saying is that I should jump off the roof and break both legs so I can rewatch all these shows with this interesting shit in mind.... plus morphine?
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 09:40 PM (O3do3)
Posted by: Max Power at May 14, 2019 09:40 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 14, 2019 09:40 PM (f8dwL)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 14, 2019 09:40 PM (Clxcy)
Which is partly why that show really annoyed me. Literally no one ever spoke like that. Ever. They swore entirely too much, and not just Swearingen (get it? he swears, and his name is... never mind). It was painfully contrived and drove me up a wall.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 09:41 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Ever at May 14, 2019 09:41 PM (If5jV)
---
What is this?
A joke?
"u.s. soldiers what you didn't like were alowed to hand in iran-contra treatment black ghetto from voting as is possible ;but him getting if you want to give a negros were for murder of fred of the pilgrims shows: all in the memory holliday is best children."
Who's Fred?
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2019 09:41 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: FireHorse at May 14, 2019 09:41 PM (ta49A)
Ned is killed shortly after that. He's a free man for only like a DAY or two, and then he's in the prison alone until his execution.
Varys visits him, sure. But...
Cersei would do the same thing to Jon that Robert would do. She's even more ruthless, as Ned finds out.
Posted by: ace at May 14, 2019 09:39 PM (PbpT7)
=========
Yeah, blabbing about Jon then would have guaranteed that the nobody at the Wall got a knife in his back. Ned loved his nephew, obviously.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:41 PM (5sBuX)
Doctor Who. Before the reboot/whatever. Last episode had The Doctor and Ace after the adventure doing some bantering, then The Doctor says something like "come on, Ace - we've got work to do!"
I thought that was a good ending - open ended, left a lot to the imagination, and all that.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 14, 2019 09:41 PM (IfYaq)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2019 09:36 PM (6urbU)
At that point Jon was part of the Night's Watch, and thus couldn't take the throne. Plus, revealing it would have likely split the kingdom into civil war between Stannis, Jon's supporters, and the Lannisters. While the whole kingdom did eventually fall into civil war, Ned could be excused for trying to avoid that very scenario.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 14, 2019 09:41 PM (SgjGX)
Also, Ned is observing the actual line of succession after the death of his friend, the King. That doesn't include reverting back to the previous line of kings.
Posted by: ace at May 14, 2019 09:41 PM (PbpT7)
They let the Cylons fly off with all their ships, pit everyone on Earth without even a toothbrush, and sent all their ships into the sun.
Utterly retarded.
Posted by: Mortis at May 14, 2019 09:22 PM (9JhRE)
Yup. And you needed a decoder ring (not supplied!) for the last half-dozen or so episodes to understand what a Cylon really was, who was and wasn't a Cylon, and what planets were what, and when.
Posted by: Gref at May 14, 2019 09:41 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 14, 2019 09:41 PM (3hr5B)
have to be running a bit then with material and running into the logical
inconsistencies of the world.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 14, 2019 09:35 PM (SgjGX)
It's all very loosely based on the book. The book ends with her meeting TMITHK and finding out there is a different possible world and is hers the real one. One thing though, the Allies do win in the other world, but it still isn't ours. Anyways, that never really bothered me that they follow the book.
Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at May 14, 2019 09:41 PM (J70i0)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 14, 2019 09:41 PM (NMAzL)
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2019 09:41 PM (uEbPt)
They messed it up so bad, they couldn't sell the series afterward on dvd (or streaming) and they took a hit on the reruns.
Now BEST TV ending? Newhart! It was fantastic!!
Posted by: Ann at May 14, 2019 09:41 PM (NDO5Q)
OMG!!. Trump didn't nuke PBS??!!. Off with his head!! or whatever violent ending they specifically enjoyed in GOT.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2019 09:41 PM (ahS0B)
Idiot.
Posted by: JAS at May 14, 2019 09:41 PM (KOCKb)
Yeah, like in Ace's favorite Columbo episode he told Cersei he was going to reveal that Joffrey wasn't Robert's son.
"So you told no one else about this then?"
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:42 PM (rqMux)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 14, 2019 09:42 PM (yahgy)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar
It is. You have to read bottles carefully. We keep melatonin around and have given it to the dogs during thunderstorms. The last brand my wife bought contained Xylitol. Luckily we read the bottle closely before we gave to dogs any.
Posted by: Aviator at May 14, 2019 09:42 PM (2cuLk)
They remade it in America with Harvey Keitel of all people. The ending of the British show was pretty good. The ending of the American one is honestly one of the stupidest things in the history of all forms of entertainment, ever.
-
I liked Life On Mars but your comments reminded me of a three part Brit series I liked, Ordeal of Innocence, based on an Agatha Christie book. I thought it was considerably rawer then any Christie I'd ever read or seen (plus one of the wealthy, aristocratic family's adopted children is black, certainly an unlikely occurrence in 1950s England). I then learned that the series took great liberties with the plot in the book including who the murderer is. But, nevertheless, I did like it, particularly the twist of the knife at the very end.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 14, 2019 09:42 PM (+y/Ru)
Which is partly why that show really annoyed me. Literally no one ever spoke like that. Ever. They swore entirely too much, and not just Swearingen (get it? he swears, and his name is... never mind). It was painfully contrived and drove me up a wall.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 09:41 PM (39g3+)
===========
The idea that dialogue must be realistic annoys me. Most of the time, it fits well, but going heavily stylized is a valid creative choice.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:42 PM (5sBuX)
I mean I thought that was understood?!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 14, 2019 09:42 PM (Rarvo)
Posted by: Miklos in error at May 14, 2019 09:42 PM (QzkSJ)
You've got Varys, who's lasted so long being a master of information and intrigue, and he gets wasted in the blink of an eye, but Arya gets some long weird fucking horse fantasy after the destruction of King's Landing.
I was going to work on the phrasing in that last sentence, but fuck it, it's GoT. Lazy writing it is.
Posted by: McLurkerson at May 14, 2019 09:42 PM (hFbrr)
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 09:43 PM (O3do3)
Posted by: Comrade Bernie at May 14, 2019 09:43 PM (FiUMj)
btw, doesn't Urine Greyjoy seem like he just stepped off the set of East Enders?
What a terrible casting choice.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2019 09:43 PM (6urbU)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 14, 2019 09:43 PM (yahgy)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 14, 2019 09:44 PM (jXrK7)
Imagine if Ned said something to somebody about Jon Snow...
The series would be done in one season.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2019 09:40 PM (6urbU)
Because Jon Snow would have been dead. They were plotting to kill Dany while she was living in exile. All the people in power were very much anti-Targaryen.
Also Jon Snow had already taken the oath to join the Night's Watch, so in the eyes of Ned Stark, his claim to the throne was gone.
Posted by: buzzion at May 14, 2019 09:44 PM (WaxcS)
'You Hobbit my whole shit, you uninspired hack. You're a pirate, you even stole my 'RR'.'
-JRR Tolkien
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 14, 2019 09:44 PM (mx70g)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:42 PM (5sBuX)
Which brings me to Death of Stalin again. Brilliant.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 14, 2019 09:44 PM (2DOZq)
Idiot.
Posted by: JAS at May 14, 2019 09:41 PM (KOCKb)
52 Senators, 57 states.
It aligns perfectly.
Posted by: Barry O at May 14, 2019 09:44 PM (sy5kK)
I mean literally one scene they are walking through a forest that's clear of underbrush, you can see dozens of feet. They walk past a few trees which are clear and... out from behind the trees eight zombies run out to attack? What the???
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 09:44 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 14, 2019 09:44 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Tuna at May 14, 2019 09:44 PM (jm1YL)
They messed it up so bad, they couldn't sell the series afterward on dvd (or streaming) and they took a hit on the reruns.
Now BEST TV ending? Newhart! It was fantastic!!
Posted by: Ann at May 14, 2019 09:41 PM (NDO5Q)
=========
That's because they were entirely too smart for their own good. They filmed the kids' ending while filming season 2 or 3.
They boxed themselves in, so when they ended up taking the characters in completely different directions than expected, they had to whiplash right back to that original decision. They shot themselves in the foot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:44 PM (5sBuX)
Posted by: Iris at May 14, 2019 09:38 PM (6lKe4)
I like the taste, but it gives me terrible stomach-aches *shudder*
Xylitol is a no-no in this house also, because of our little Yorkies.
Posted by: Marybeth at May 14, 2019 09:44 PM (MEgUr)
Other than MASH, of course ...
There were a couple of Netflix series (fuzzy foreign series) that started out pretty well - interesting and lively - but ended in piles of stupidity and idiocy. One was this Icelandic series about a cop investigating a murder (body washed up or something) ... Very good series until they tried to wrap it all up and it was so stupid I felt like drowning the writers, producers and everyone else associated with that show. Can't remember the name. Fun for about 8 episodes and then straight into the trash heap.
Another was this German series Parfum. It could have been interesting except for the fact that the writers, directors and everyone else involved were obviously retarded. And, since it was a German series, they had to advocate for the smell of shit every chance they got. Literally. Literally, literally. One of the episodes was called "Skatole".
Worst movie ending ever (one of the worst) was Fight Club. All that psycho-mumbo-jumbo at the end was dumb and made no sense, whatsoever. Luckily, the movie was good enough to be able to put that shitty ending aside but that ending did blow donkey shlong.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 14, 2019 09:44 PM (vq6T3)
________
Cheers.
Posted by: FireHorse at May 14, 2019 09:41 PM (ta49A)
X-Flies.
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 09:44 PM (O3do3)
Posted by: JAS at May 14, 2019 09:44 PM (KOCKb)
the character portrayed real life george hearst.
Posted by: trapper's girl at May 14, 2019 09:44 PM (DGS6j)
Yeah, like in Ace's favorite Columbo episode he told Cersei he was going to reveal that Joffrey wasn't Robert's son.
"So you told no one else about this then?"
...
hah, thanks for remembering my favorite trope, what I call "Victim Talk."
"And you're quite sure no one has scene these photographs which you are using to blackmail me? And no one saw you come to my office, you say?"
>>>"That's right! So now PAY UP! You have NO OTHER CHOICE!"
(reaching for gun) "Riiiiight... no other choice... let me just reach in this drawer for the payoff money. Oh, now let me load a bullet into the payoff money..."
Posted by: ace at May 14, 2019 09:45 PM (PbpT7)
I watched 8 seasons. I could not care less now about what happens to any of them.
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 14, 2019 09:45 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Comrade Bernie at May 14, 2019 09:39 PM (FiUMj)
The biggest BB fan I know (went crazy for it in season 1 and basically never shut up about it) hated the one with the fly. I actually kind of liked that one.
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2019 09:45 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 14, 2019 09:45 PM (+y/Ru)
'You Hobbit my whole shit, you uninspired hack. You're a pirate, you even stole my 'RR'.'
-JRR Tolkien
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 14, 2019 09:44 PM (mx70g)
=========
Actual exchange:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAAp_luluo0
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:45 PM (5sBuX)
The cinematography was light years better. Upstairs was in a sound stage mostly. While DA was at that gorgeous estate.
Posted by: booknlass at May 14, 2019 09:33 PM (xIKXj)
Upstairs was a typical made on a low budget British show but the stories and characters were much better. Downton lifted a lot of the characters.
Mr. Hudson = Mr. Carson
Mrs. Bridges = Mrs. Hughes (they switched who was Scottish)
Daisy = Daisy
Downton was beautifully filmed and the first 3 seasons were good but then it ran out of ideas
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 14, 2019 09:45 PM (nVq7R)
Members of the Revolutionary Communist Party of America launched an advertising campaign at the University of California-Los Angeles in early May by chalking and distributing signage in an apparent effort to recruit college students to subscribe to their communist ideology.
The group set up signs, handed out flyers, and wrote out chalk markings, as seen in photos obtained by Campus Reform, even after being asked by staff and housing officials to stop their activities. The group's distributed manifesto condemned capitalism, as well as jokes based on race, gender, nationality, etc. Chalked markings on the ground and walls asked students to speak.
The Revolutionary Communist Party passed out flyers urging revolution -- but saying it will not provoke violence "at this stage" -- calling for the formation of "organized fighting forces," claiming the group must be ready to "continually train and deploy new forces and leaders," and called for the establishment of a "New Socialist Republic of North America."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2019 09:45 PM (aKsyK)
That's one of the other things that's annoying me about this season, the pretense that Order of Succession matters.
Yeah, Jon has a better legal claim than Dany but she didn't get there by legal claim. Her brother had a better claim. He was a twit. She got an army of loyal Dothraki, and one of Unsullied, and a small handful of dragons.
That's her claim to the throne. Armies loyal to her and the ability to win the war.
Jon's blood is meaningless without the fact that everyone loves him and want's to follow him.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 14, 2019 09:46 PM (fuK7c)
The finale was fantastic. It's use of Dire Straits-Brothers in Arms and U2-With or With Out You during key spots in the episode was damn near perfect.
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 14, 2019 09:46 PM (WNAuL)
I've never seen GoT on tv, but didn't the books end with most everybody being eaten by wild boars and then the wild boars being eaten by a bunch of blind castrated shapeshifters? Or some such?
Posted by: Eromero at May 14, 2019 09:38 PM (qBNEP)
You're confusing it with Gilligan's Island.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 14, 2019 09:46 PM (eXA4G)
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:46 PM (rqMux)
Posted by: JAS at May 14, 2019 09:46 PM (KOCKb)
It was really well written and acted but I blame it for being the source of all those super bleak, miserable, empty shows in which everyone is horrible, there's no hope, and everything goes perpetually wrong.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 09:46 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: dantesed at May 14, 2019 09:47 PM (88xKn)
Posted by: buzzion at May 14, 2019 09:47 PM (WaxcS)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 14, 2019 09:47 PM (3hr5B)
Posted by: Comrade Bernie at May 14, 2019 09:39 PM (FiUMj)
The biggest BB fan I know (went crazy for it in season 1 and basically never shut up about it) hated the one with the fly. I actually kind of liked that one.
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2019 09:45 PM (uEbPt)
===========
That one is really good, but because it doesn't affect much of anything outside of its borders, many fans consider it pointless.
Directed by Rian Johnson, director of The Last Jedi and Breaking Bad's universally considered best episode Ozymandias.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:47 PM (5sBuX)
Doctor Who. Before the reboot/whatever. Last episode had The Doctor
and Ace after the adventure doing some bantering, then The Doctor says
something like "come on, Ace - we've got work to do!"
I thought that was a good ending - open ended, left a lot to the imagination, and all that.
That was actually written after the show was filmed and added at the last minute, as they had an inkling they wouldn't be back.
"There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, where the sea's
asleep and the rivers dream. People made of smoke, and cities made of
song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice and
somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace, we've got work to
do."
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 14, 2019 09:47 PM (oVJmc)
But when you preferred method to deal with characters is by killing them (lazy lazy lazy), and creating a world that's just begging for the White Walkers to do a good scrubbing of all the manipulative sociopaths, you write yourself into a dozen corners, like GRRM.
Posted by: McLurkerson at May 14, 2019 09:47 PM (hFbrr)
Were we watching the same show????
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 14, 2019 09:47 PM (FiUMj)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 14, 2019 09:40 PM (Clxcy)
I read that series.
It was pretty tedious with the rare flash of bad ass.
I only read it so I could read the part where the pretty princess loses her virginity to one of her evil father's scumbag buddies.
Posted by: Robert at May 14, 2019 09:47 PM (/cL3k)
Posted by: Tonypete
Thread winner! Chicken Dinner!
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 14, 2019 09:47 PM (S6Pax)
Zombie stories always suffer from this flaw. Zombies simply aren't a threat to any rational, half-way intelligent person.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 14, 2019 09:47 PM (SgjGX)
The ending of Mork and Mindy had to suck. I stopped watching when Jonathan Winters was born.
Posted by: JAS at May 14, 2019 09:47 PM (KOCKb)
The mid-season ending: they find the nuclear blasted remains of a lifeless Earth-like planet and are standing around with devastated faces, saying what are we going to do now?
Posted by: Darth Randall at May 14, 2019 09:48 PM (xRdPB)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 14, 2019 09:38 PM (Z+IKu)
Plus he was 82nd Airborne, rowing across a river to kill some Hitler youth. Sadly, he was temporarily put out of commission by a headshot flesh wound.
Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at May 14, 2019 09:48 PM (J70i0)
BTW go White people to save the day. Go team white.
Posted by: Picric at May 14, 2019 09:25 PM (nonGu)
Anyone know what this means?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 14, 2019 09:48 PM (wYseH)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot,
*merrily accepts WIC vouchers at Starbucks*
Posted by: A O C at May 14, 2019 09:48 PM (QzkSJ)
Ancient knowledge, but
Homicide: Life on the Streets
and
Hill Street Blues
were great
IMHO.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 14, 2019 09:49 PM (3hr5B)
Sounds like a good one for wifey.
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2019 09:49 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: A. Pendragon at May 14, 2019 09:49 PM (lJMCC)
It was really well written and acted but I blame it for being the source of all those super bleak, miserable, empty shows in which everyone is horrible, there's no hope, and everything goes perpetually wrong.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 09:46 PM (39g3+)
Oh thanks a lot Chris.
*pours vodka*
*weeps*
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 14, 2019 09:49 PM (yahgy)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 14, 2019 09:49 PM (FiUMj)
I stopped watching when Jonathan Winters was born.
Posted by: JAS
That was when they jumped the egg.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2019 09:50 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2019 09:41 PM (uEbPt)
Shakespeare was a bit loosey goosey with his, so I follow suit.
"Behold this c*cksucking traitorous toad"
etc.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 14, 2019 09:50 PM (NMAzL)
Posted by: Noam Sayen at May 14, 2019 09:50 PM (WJcbb)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 14, 2019 09:50 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 09:50 PM (39g3+)
Breaking Bad
12 Monkeys
The Wire
Justified
Deadwood (still has a pulse)
Person of Interest
Six Feet Under (hate to admit that one)
Billions (if they don't shit the bed)
Banshee
Seinfeld
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 09:50 PM (O3do3)
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2019 09:50 PM (uEbPt)
BTW go White people to save the day. Go team white.
Posted by: Picric at May 14, 2019 09:25 PM (nonGu)
Anyone know what this means?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 14, 2019 09:48 PM (wYseH)
Well, white people did invent both refrigeration and air conditioning, so maybe that is what they mean.
Seriously, modern society would not exist with those two inventions.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 14, 2019 09:51 PM (sy5kK)
She's a replicant.
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 14, 2019 09:51 PM (WNAuL)
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2019 09:51 PM (uEbPt)
Zombie stories always suffer from this flaw. Zombies simply aren't a threat to any rational, half-way intelligent person.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 14, 2019 09:47 PM (SgjGX)
And in the Walking Dead they aren't actually a threat to people either, in small numbers. It's when they get so large that their numbers can overwhelm defenses that they become a problem. Or when you are fighting other people and a herd shows up so you have the extra danger.
Posted by: buzzion at May 14, 2019 09:51 PM (WaxcS)
Jordan would have been better, but the whole dying thing kind of put a crimp on that.
Hell, even Tolkien had issues with RoTK.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 14, 2019 09:51 PM (mx70g)
I was sure I would hate it, but after watching every minute of BB, I now think it was a videomatic tour de force.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 14, 2019 09:52 PM (3hr5B)
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2019 09:51 PM (uEbPt)
I only saw the first episode but couldn't bring myself to even try to watch another.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 14, 2019 09:52 PM (vq6T3)
Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2019 09:52 PM (NLLmE)
The last episode of Newhart was inspired genius. The following year they did a Bob Newhart (70s show) reunion and it ends with Bob going for the elevator and as the doors open Larry and the Darryls are in the elevator. Bob says, I'll take the stairs. That show isn't available anywhere
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 14, 2019 09:52 PM (nVq7R)
That's what Cheers was by the end with Seinfeld, which came on at 9:30, as the headliner.
Posted by: FireHorse at May 14, 2019 09:52 PM (ta49A)
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:52 PM (rqMux)
Nairobi Trio - RACIST!!
***************
Percy Dovetonsils ---HOMOPHOBIA!!
Posted by: Noam Sayen
Now cooks cheekin
Posted by: Miklos Molnar, Mesterszakacs at May 14, 2019 09:52 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2019 09:51 PM (uEbPt)
I liked season 1. It didn't strike me as political.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 14, 2019 09:52 PM (SgjGX)
I was sure I would hate it, but after watching every minute of BB, I now think it was a videomatic tour de force.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 14, 2019 09:52 PM (3hr5B)
===========
Dolley and I watched Better Call Saul (I think it's a better show overall) and then rewatched Breaking Bad.
From the first episode, she was yelling at the TV, "Why don't you just die!?!?"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:52 PM (5sBuX)
Thanks Miley. I adore language, and even though I was being kind of funny I love you for answering.
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2019 09:52 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2019 09:53 PM (NLLmE)
It was really well written and acted but I blame it for being the source of all those super bleak, miserable, empty shows in which everyone is horrible, there's no hope, and everything goes perpetually wrong.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 09:46 PM (39g3+)
Well, it is set in Baltimore.
Posted by: josephistan at May 14, 2019 09:53 PM (Izzlo)
Married with Children didn't even have an ending.
Farscape got shafted on its ending by the Sci-Fi channel.
Babylon 5 season 4 ending was awesome! Skip the tack on Season 5.
Cowboy Bebop has the best ending of a TV show ever despite the fact it is anime.
Any other opinions on this subject are just wrong...
Posted by: David at May 14, 2019 09:53 PM (jY1B4)
"Behold this c*cksucking traitorous toad"
etc.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 14, 2019 09:50 PM (NMAzL)
Hi Miley!
Posted by: Ladyl at May 14, 2019 09:53 PM (TdMsT)
I always thought it was kind of a humble-brag about their intelligence.
Not that I have aged, I realize it's not really intended to say "I don't watch television like you unwashed rubes", it was probably that, get this, they really didn't watch much television.
With that said, I have to admit that I am culturally lacking in that I have never watched or read a Game of Thrones show or book. I don't feel better for this, I just kinda feel out of touch with the world.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 14, 2019 09:53 PM (t5Hd3)
Season 1: Great
Season 2: OK
Season 3: It's going all grrrrrl power so will probably be shit.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 14, 2019 09:53 PM (FiUMj)
Totally satisfying.
Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2019 09:52 PM (NLLmE)
I still think the first season is one of the best bits of television ever. I liked the way they started to go with the Boyd character, but in the end they settled on cartoon villain. Did not work, IMO.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 14, 2019 09:53 PM (mx70g)
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 09:53 PM (O3do3)
Unless they are fast zombie. I'll grant the shambling ones are no threat to the aware.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:54 PM (rqMux)
A joke?
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2019 09:41 PM (RU4sa)
It's a script that generates a bunch of random raimondo spew, using about 9.2 kilobytes of actual real-life ethically-sourced free-range small-batch artisanal ramondo posts curated by myself.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 14, 2019 09:54 PM (t+qrx)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 09:54 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: buzzion at May 14, 2019 09:51 PM (WaxcS)
Even large numbers shouldn't be a threat, with a small amount of preparation.
Zombies are like earthquakes, fires, floods, etc.: a disaster that serves as background to the human drama. The Walking Dead is The Towering Inferno or The Poseidon Adventure.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 14, 2019 09:54 PM (SgjGX)
Zombies are like earthquakes, fires, floods, etc.: a disaster that serves as background to the human drama. The Walking Dead is The Towering Inferno or The Poseidon Adventure.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 14, 2019 09:54 PM (SgjGX)
==========
Neither of which are particularly good.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:55 PM (5sBuX)
Carol Burnett's youtube channel's tribute to Tim Conway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbJI67ve348
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2019 09:55 PM (6urbU)
Trophy Wife
Outsourced
Enlisted
(You can binge watch with portion control.)
Posted by: FireHorse at May 14, 2019 09:55 PM (ta49A)
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 09:53 PM (O3do3)
This. It was good and a little weird. Then it got a LOT weird and forgot to be good.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 14, 2019 09:55 PM (mx70g)
No I think you had it right the first time.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 14, 2019 09:55 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 14, 2019 09:55 PM (vq6T3)
Lost was the worst. The only thing good about the Lost ending was the lesson I learned, namely, that writers are normal humans, not super-geniuses crafting an intricate web too complicated to figure out, only to be revealed by the end.
Posted by: Cheeky Gestureton at May 14, 2019 09:55 PM (IAGvD)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 14, 2019 09:55 PM (H5knJ)
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 09:55 PM (O3do3)
---
This is pretty much the entire problem with geek culture (the parts that have gone bad). It's infested with soap opera writers because
1. Must hire women and
2. Must suck up to the worst sort of women so maybe we can get laid.
Posted by: Methos at May 14, 2019 09:55 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 14, 2019 09:53 PM (t5Hd3)
Odd.
I feel better when I feel out of touch with the world. The more I see of the world, the more I am dissatisfied with it.
And I've never seen a second of GoT.
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2019 09:55 PM (uEbPt)
The Fugitive. Dr. Kimble is exonerated. ( I cannot remember the details - I was in grade school - I need to get that series and watch it.)
Posted by: Gref at May 14, 2019 09:56 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Comrade Bernie
Oh, it had some snoozers. But its finale...exquisite. The best ever, at least for me. Except Jesse survived.
Posted by: Blutarski at May 14, 2019 09:56 PM (+Tibp)
I've gotten interested in the YooToob channels DUST and one or two others that show sci-fi short films. A lot of those are well written, tight and over in less than 20 minutes. Many are speculative and trying to pitch a full-length movie and not very well fleshed out, but overall, for pacing, I like them.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 14, 2019 09:56 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 14, 2019 09:56 PM (vq6T3)
It was great, a wonderful series with a terrific ending. And the movie was damned good, too. I love that series and I'm really not fond of most anime (sorry AnnaPuma)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 09:56 PM (39g3+)
Trophy Wife
Outsourced
Enlisted
(You can binge watch with portion control.)
Posted by: FireHorse at May 14, 2019 09:55 PM (ta49A)
Brimstone
Space: Above and Beyond (now, there was a series ending)
Sure, the acting may have been hammy in both, but I liked the concepts and the stories.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 14, 2019 09:56 PM (mx70g)
Lost was the worst. The only thing good about the Lost ending was the lesson I learned, namely, that writers are normal humans, not super-geniuses crafting an intricate web too complicated to figure out, only to be revealed by the end.
Posted by: Cheeky Gestureton at May 14, 2019 09:55 PM (IAGvD)
=========
Lost's ending is unforgivable. After season 3, the network approached the producers and asked them for a plan to end the show. The producers huddled with their writers and said, "We can do this in 3 seasons."
And they still had no idea how to finish the show.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:56 PM (5sBuX)
They knew they were cancelled so they just had like 4 simultaneous kickass cliff hangers going on at the end of the last episode. A sort of FU to Fox.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:56 PM (rqMux)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 14, 2019 09:56 PM (f8dwL)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 14, 2019 09:57 PM (nDe2U)
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 09:57 PM (O3do3)
And yes, I give The Godfather II all due respect, but I still think that Coppola and Puzo should have let the first film to stand alone on its own merits. (Godfather III - I prefer to pretend that never happened.)
Posted by: A. Pendragon at May 14, 2019 09:57 PM (lJMCC)
Totally agree.
They should have just shit-canned it - even though it was a clever idea - when it no longer fit after all the seasons of character growth. In the end, their hubris cost them a lotta dollars.
Posted by: Ann at May 14, 2019 09:57 PM (NDO5Q)
One of my favorite TV shows ever and I'm not even a fan of anime. It's nearly perfect.
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 14, 2019 09:57 PM (WNAuL)
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 09:55 PM (O3do3)
Yes. Season 4 was only a couple episodes, I think. And kind of weak to the point where I wouldn't have minded missing it. But they really brought it all the way back in Season 5. Try to avoid reading about it.
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2019 09:57 PM (uEbPt)
They let the Cylons fly off with all their ships, pit everyone on Earth without even a toothbrush, and sent all their ships into the sun.
Utterly retarded.
**************
Yeah. I remembered some outraged female fans saying,
"Wait until the women find out there are no tampons on that new planet of theirs!!"
Posted by: Noam Sayen at May 14, 2019 09:57 PM (WJcbb)
It was the story of the PC industry of the 80s, told through a couple of dudes who started a company making PCs and then eventually sorta kinda created almost created Google.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 14, 2019 09:57 PM (FiUMj)
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 09:58 PM (O3do3)
They knew they were cancelled so they just had like 4 simultaneous kickass cliff hangers going on at the end of the last episode. A sort of FU to Fox.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:56 PM (rqMux)
===========
That's a fantastic way to end a show.
Don't end it, just imply that everything will continue and give many questions. It keeps the fans unsatisfied, but engages at the same time.
I love that ending. The two last wild cards laying in their bunks, staring up to the ceiling.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:58 PM (5sBuX)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2019 09:58 PM (6urbU)
Cristina Applegate is aging really well. Or has a good plastic surgeon. Or whatever. Point is: Schwing!
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
======
Strong lady, too. Survived a double mastectomy.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 14, 2019 09:58 PM (XG6a8)
Posted by: davidt at May 14, 2019 09:58 PM (EfMCv)
(What time does the ONT end, anyway?)
Posted by: FireHorse at May 14, 2019 09:58 PM (ta49A)
Posted by: JAS at May 14, 2019 09:58 PM (KOCKb)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 09:59 PM (39g3+)
I always hated people that I would mention some television pop-culture reference to and they would say "I don't really watch much television".
I don't really watch much television.
But when I was a kid my parents didn't allow us to watch TV during the week. So I never got in the habit of watching it. I developed other interests and have stuck with them, so sports is just about all I watch.
I don't really go to movies either.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 14, 2019 09:59 PM (X3lUd)
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 09:58 PM (O3do3)
===========
Gave us Edgar Wright.
It shall be enshrined in all of human history for that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:59 PM (5sBuX)
----------------------------
And that last line is freakin orgasmic.
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2019 09:59 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:58 PM (5sBuX)
'Take her home.' Me: Oh, shit, they're going to kill Wang!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 14, 2019 09:59 PM (mx70g)
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 09:54 PM (goo
Speaking of fast zombies, they are playing a zombie movie on Showtime called The Cured. Good concept about finding a cure for the zombie virus and reintroducing the previous zombies back to society. The vaccine doesn't work on some.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 14, 2019 09:59 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: No One of Consequence at May 14, 2019 09:59 PM (8g9zh)
*smashes kneecap with hammer*
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 09:59 PM (O3do3)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 14, 2019 09:59 PM (FiUMj)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:52 PM (5sBuX)
I understand that perfectly, and I didn't say I liked the characters!
Never watched Better Call Saul because about that time I put a bullet in the TV and never got it fixed. I kept the sound system though!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 14, 2019 10:00 PM (3hr5B)
Posted by: Blutarski at May 14, 2019 10:00 PM (+Tibp)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 14, 2019 10:00 PM (3hr5B)
===========
If you ever get around to finding a way to watch television again, it's highly recommended.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 10:01 PM (5sBuX)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 10:01 PM (39g3+)
I hate that we didn't learn more about the AI Wars and their religion virus. Take a Chance.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 10:01 PM (rqMux)
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 10:01 PM (O3do3)
That was so bad it pissed me off and I don't even have cable. Seemed like all new writers.
Posted by: dartist at May 14, 2019 10:01 PM (K22Va)
Newhart ends with Bob waking up next to Emily and it's all a dream----- great!
St. Elsewhere turns out to have been all a fantasy of the autistc kid's ----- crap ending.
Notice that St. Elsewhere never turned up in syndication after it ended?
Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at May 14, 2019 10:01 PM (JnMF4)
Posted by: JAS at May 14, 2019 09:58 PM (KOCKb)
___
I thought it was pretty cool. Especially how Don gets that EUREKA look as he's doing yoga and then the ad starts playing. That was good stuff.
And the buildup to it the entire season was good too. Betty dying of lung cancer....yikes.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 14, 2019 10:01 PM (FiUMj)
I hate that we didn't learn more about the AI Wars and their religion virus. Take a Chance.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Platinum Member at May 14, 2019 10:01 PM (rqMux)
==========
At least they didn't disappoint you with something stupid.
Silver lining.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 10:01 PM (5sBuX)
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 14, 2019 10:02 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: No One of Consequence at May 14, 2019 10:02 PM (8g9zh)
Posted by: FireHorse at May 14, 2019 09:58 PM (ta49A)
A good ONT never ends, it just drifts into a space-time warp with a different IP address!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 14, 2019 10:02 PM (3hr5B)
Posted by: Sideshow Bob at May 14, 2019 10:02 PM (RyWVp)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 14, 2019 10:02 PM (mx70g)
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 14, 2019 10:02 PM (Z0KTx)
Trying to think of a funnier sitcom female from that era.
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2019 10:02 PM (uEbPt)
And they still had no idea how to finish the show.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 09:56 PM (5sBuX)
Lost started out great. The first few episodes were among the best TV ever, but then it became apparent that the writers had no clue what the fvck they were doing and they didn't even bother to explain anything. Once that was apparent it was clear that there was no reason to keep watching since they kept introducing new things and then leaving them and never explaining anything about any of it. That only goes so far ... 5 episodes, tops. I mean, what was the fvcking story with that big button the guy had to press every 20 minutes, or whatever it was?? You can't just make shit like that up for a story and then leave it.
In Lost, the whole story was the MacGuffin.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 14, 2019 10:03 PM (vq6T3)
Posted by: JAS at May 14, 2019 09:58 PM (KOCKb)
___
I thought it was pretty cool. Especially how Don gets that EUREKA look as he's doing yoga and then the ad starts playing. That was good stuff.
And the buildup to it the entire season was good too. Betty dying of lung cancer....yikes.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 14, 2019 10:01 PM (FiUMj)
==========
I always saw the ending as metaphorical, not literal.
Don's cure was as real as the Coke commercial. Meaning, it wasn't, he was still Don.
I liked it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 10:03 PM (5sBuX)
Oh, and the Young Turks' reaction that night.
And the sky-screamers.
Hubby and I have been binge-watching them the last 2 weekends. Laugh out loud hilarious.
Posted by: Marybeth at May 14, 2019 10:03 PM (MEgUr)
It was super popular for a long time too. But that's an example of a show that kept going past the point the writers had any ideas and sucked worse every year until it was canceled.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 10:03 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 14, 2019 10:03 PM (FiUMj)
Posted by: literally serious at May 14, 2019 10:03 PM (O3do3)
Posted by: davidt at May 14, 2019 10:03 PM (EfMCv)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 14, 2019 10:04 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2019 10:04 PM (NLLmE)
Posted by: Daniel J Kunkle at May 14, 2019 10:04 PM (r7jLD)
Posted by: davidt at May 14, 2019 10:03 PM (EfMCv)
==========
Not everything can end as well as Escape from L.A..
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at May 14, 2019 10:04 PM (5sBuX)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 14, 2019 10:04 PM (vq6T3)
Posted by: FireHorse at May 14, 2019 10:05 PM (ta49A)
There wasn't any. They were all really stale by that point which is why Married With Children was written the way it was, to flip off all the stale, overused cliches of sitcom families.
Of course, now MWC is the stale, overused cliche, and a good loving and tight family is the exception.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 10:05 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 14, 2019 10:05 PM (mx70g)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 14, 2019 10:05 PM (FiUMj)
Posted by: The Sopranos at May 14, 2019 10:05 PM (t6XCL)
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2019 10:06 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2019 10:07 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2019 10:05 PM (39g3+)
-----------------------------
I always thought MWC had a "if you're not in the family, you don't mess with the family" vibe.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at May 14, 2019 10:07 PM (8g9zh)
This is so overlooked. That scene is masterful.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 14, 2019 10:07 PM (fuK7c)
I always thought of The Game Of Thrones as a Lord Of The Rings meets the The Sopranos.
Posted by: YIKES! at May 14, 2019 10:08 PM (t6XCL)
Mr. White turning into "you're god damned right." once you hate him, it's hard to be sympathetic again.
so I get it!
Posted by: booknlass at May 14, 2019 10:09 PM (xIKXj)
---
We didn't see Avon die, so I insist he found a way to win.
Posted by: Methos at May 14, 2019 10:10 PM (kOpft)
Please to be seeing #266. I can't phrase it better.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 14, 2019 10:10 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Eromero at May 14, 2019 10:10 PM (qBNEP)
Death Note, Code Geass, Wolf's Rain were all anime with great endings.
Worse ending ever has to go to Neon Genesis Evangelion, hands down!
Posted by: David at May 14, 2019 10:12 PM (jY1B4)
Posted by: Jean at May 14, 2019 10:13 PM (+exTc)
One of the reasons possibly the best ever.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 14, 2019 10:15 PM (oVJmc)
St. Elsewhere turns out to have been all a fantasy of the autistc kid's ----- crap ending.
----
On the contrary, I'd be happier realizing that Howie Mandel only exists in an autistic child's imagination
Posted by: josephistan at May 14, 2019 10:18 PM (Izzlo)
Posted by: Deep State is In DEEP SHIT at May 14, 2019 10:19 PM (BqBId)
Posted by: CN at May 14, 2019 10:20 PM (U7k5w)
Posted by: steve at May 14, 2019 10:21 PM (TTy55)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 14, 2019 10:05 PM (FiUMj)
I peg it at 5. After that quality rapidly declines. My theory is that they usually have enough gas to hit 100 episodes and syndication, but after that most of the actors and writers want to move on to new projects.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 14, 2019 10:22 PM (SgjGX)
I have so many thoughts. But can't hunker down and read and write.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 14, 2019 10:35 PM (P+FGJ)
I have so many thoughts. But can't hunker down and read and write.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 14, 2019 10:35 PM (P+FGJ)
Seconded.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at May 14, 2019 11:07 PM (tmA71)
Garsh, if only the producers had had the foresight to put PDJT's head on a pike somewhere in the scenery just as they did for GWB!
That'd have kept the baying hounds at bay!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 14, 2019 11:49 PM (pNxlR)
I'd be willing to bet that Candice Aiston's life has been a waste of her life.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 14, 2019 11:50 PM (pNxlR)
As for TV shows you will absolutely NOT be disappointed by, watch Cobra Kai. It revisits the Karate Kid characters in the present day and, instead of centering around Daniel-san, the main character is Johnny. It's just two 10 episode seasons and the episodes are only 30 minutes. It is FANTASTIC. Oh and, as a bonus, it mercilessly pokes fun at liberals and SJWs.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at May 15, 2019 12:16 AM (3ufaJ)
Worst Series Ender Ever: Dexter
2nd Worst Ever: Sons of Anarchy
Honorable Mention: LOST
Best Ending: Breaking Bad
Runner Up: The Shield
Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 15, 2019 01:46 AM (ju9gW)
TNG's endings were good. Season 7 was overall, weak, but the last two episodes did well, first at wrapping up Ensign Ro's arc, then at bookending the season premiere.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 15, 2019 02:34 AM (ykYG2)
Although... I feel like it could be going Game Of Thrones here. Adding new characters and additional scope can cause it to lose focus
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 15, 2019 02:37 AM (ykYG2)
Firefly got screwed out of having a Joss Whedon male-feminist-ally ending. I've read the graphic novel sequels to The Big Damn Movie. And it's getting worse over there.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 15, 2019 02:40 AM (ykYG2)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 15, 2019 02:46 AM (ykYG2)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 15, 2019 06:16 AM (cqNba)
Also, Battlestar Galactica's ending was a huge disappointment.
Posted by: Loretta Weiss-Morris at May 15, 2019 08:20 AM (bK70E)
Posted by: Alan McIntire at May 15, 2019 10:09 AM (GbRhV)
Posted by: Rollory at May 15, 2019 10:15 AM (1Vh5q)
To fully comprehend what a travesty that show ended on you have to know not only what we the viewers were led to believe throughout the series - both through actual events and insinuations in earlier episodes - but also the "after the fact" interviews with the show's writers and creator.
I'm not going to go into everything - some guy some years back wrote an epic summary of just what a betrayal Daybreak was - but a few key points.
1. There is no question, despite what the series finale claims, that the show took place in the future.
a. The constellations in the Tomb of Athena are from the point of view of "our" Earth as they exist in our present. So the Lords of Kobol, who created the tomb in the show's "past", either had the knowledge of where the lost 13th tribe came from/returned to, or, if Daybreak is to be believed, knew that in their "future" the surviving colonists of a genocide would randomly jump the last surviving battlestar to a planet that would, 150,000 years in that planet's future be in a position where those constellations would look like that.
b. The song "All Along The Watchtower" exists and radio waves from its broadcast have been traveling through space for years. So either it was broadcast from our Earth back in the 1960s to eventually be picked up by our descendants, or it was created by an "original" Cylon before their civilization was destroyed, traveled through space to be picked up by the colonists, and then was somehow recreated 150,000 years later on our Earth in the same language as the colonists, despite the fact that "our" Earth has evolved hundreds, if not thousands, of different languages and dialects since our ancestors started speaking.
2. The freaking writers admitted they threw-out their plans for the series sometime during the third season not caring about the previous established facts and continuity - which is how we got...
a. Four "human" characters suddenly all discovering that they were "unique" Cylon models (four of "the five").
b. Kara Thrace, Starbuck, being unceremoniously killed only to reappear with a mysterious Viper ship and knowledge of the location of (a fake) Earth (the "original" Cylon's planet), later being revealed to be an "angel of god", and completely ignoring all the background they had been building into her character's childhood.
c. Absolutely no coherent resolution as to who/what the Lords of Kobol were and/or how they related to the Cylon "God" (or "head" Six and "head" Baltar).
3. Ronald D. Moore himself admitted there was never a Cylon "plan" (which to be fair was pretty obvious by season two).
I can't think of any other series that has ended so horribly that it actually makes it impossible to enjoy re-watching the awesome, earlier episodes. In fact I still have the final "season 4.5" dvds in their unopened, wrapped in plastic, box.
Fuck - I'm apparently still not over this.
Posted by: AlleninHawaii at May 15, 2019 02:53 PM (HuN2x)
Processing 0.09, elapsed 0.0848 seconds.
14 queries taking 0.0289 seconds, 643 records returned.
Page size 330 kb.
Powered by Minx 0.8 beta.
Real Clear Politics
Gallup
Paul Anka Haiku Contest Announcement
Integrity SAT's: Entrance Exam for Paul Anka's Band
AllahPundit's Paul Anka 45's Collection
AnkaPundit: Paul Anka Takes Over the Site for a Weekend (Continues through to Monday's postings)
George Bush Slices Don Rumsfeld Like an F*ckin' Hammer
Democratic Forays into Erotica
New Shows On Gore's DNC/MTV Network
Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes
Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse
Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party"
Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad
Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up
Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry
NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom
Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?"
Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind
All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd
Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran
Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore
Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)