Monday Overnight Open Thread (4/15/19)

(The American people are not undertaxed, the government in Washington is overfed.” -Pres. Ronald Reagan)

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The Quotes of The Day

Quote I

“One of the main lessons our elites seemed to derive from 9/11 is that the best way to fight Islamic terror is to welcome huge numbers of immigrants from places known for Islamic extremism.” Tucker Carlson

Quote II

“The hardest thing in the world to understand is the income tax.” Albert Einstein

Quote III

“There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him.” Robert A. Heinlein

Quote IV

My feeling is this whole country is founded on the principle of 'if you are not hurting anyone, and you're not fucking with someone else's shit, and you are paying your taxes, you should be able to just do what you want to do.' It's the freedom and the independence.” Adam Carolla

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If you do not succeed at first, try, try, try again.

The aerospace company behind Israel’s failed first moonshot said on Saturday it would pursue a second mission with funds raised from private donors and the public.
The robot craft Beresheet, built by non-profit SpaceIL and state-owned Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI), crashed on its final descent on Thursday, dashing Israel’s hope of becoming the fourth country to manage a controlled lunar landing.

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Why do I like President Donald J. Trump? He fights using the 'Rules of Alinsky'.

What Trump is doing here is what he’s done many times before, following Alinsky’s Rule #4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” Actually, he’s following #5 and #6 as well, to a certain extent: “”Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon” and “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” He might need to worry about #7 at some point, “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag,” but that point has not yet been reached, and Trump is usually rather good at switching things up anyway.
Trump is an Alinskyite, a term describing his tactics rather than anything about his political orientation. Whether Trump’s a natural at it or whether he’s purposely studied it I don’t know, but I think his use of Alinskyite methods is something that ties the left in knots, because although they are also practitioners of the Alinsky art, they have long considered that they own it and are rather unused to anyone on the right using it against them. It miffs them.

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Do you have a beard? Bad news.

Dogs were described as ‘cleaner’ than bearded men, a surprising study has shown
The study was trying to determine whether there was a risk of humans picking up a dog-borne disease from an MRI scanner also used for examinations by vets, the Mail On Sunday reports.
In examining the beards of 18 men and the necks of 30 dogs from a number of breeds, scientists found that even hounds had lower levels of microbes than the beards surveyed.
Professor Andreas Gutzeit, of Switzerland’s Hirslanden Clinic, said: “The researchers found a significantly higher bacterial load in specimens taken from the men’s beards compared with the dogs’ fur.”

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It is none of your God Damned Business!

Worst Idea Ever? NY Times Wants To Make Everyone’s Taxes Public

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Creepy Porn Lawyer was also a Creepy Race Team Owner.

What you may not have known was that Avenatti co-owned and raced for GB Autosport, and even raced at Le Mans in 2015. A new grand jury indictment alleges that his motorsport activity was paid for with extremely ill gotten gains. The indictment includes allegations of several counts of wire fraud, tax fraud, bank fraud, aggravated identity theft, embezzlement of client funds, and more.

My guess? Hell has a special corner already reserved for him.

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Pass the popcorn, please. SJW's take on Camille Paglia.

From their Change.org petition:
Here is what we demand of UArts:
1) Camille Paglia should be removed from UArts faculty and replaced by a queer person of color. If, due to tenure, it is absolutely illegal to remove her, then the University must at least offer alternate sections of the classes she teaches, instead taught by professors who respect transgender students and survivors of sexual assault.
2) The University of the Arts must cease to provide Camille Paglia additional platforms such as public events and opportunities to sell her books on campus.
3) The University of the Arts must apologize for its embarrassing response to this situation, and specifically President David Yager must apologize for his wildly ignorant and hypocritical letter.
4) The University of the Arts must sit down with a group of transgenders students and survivors of sexual assault to discuss how they can best be supported moving forward. This group must include students of color.

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Future Democrat

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We've all heard that Julian Assange was arrested. Most of the American Lame Stream Media seems to be quite gleeful. A progressive journalist has a different view.

Why the Assange Arrest Should Scare Reporters
The WikiLeaks founder will be tried in a real court for one thing, but for something else in the court of public opinion

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The FBI
1.)They did spy on the Trump campaign;
2.)They really do think we are stupid.

So what did we learn from Bill Priestap’s compendious and revealing testimony?

We learned that the FBI and Justice targeted and took action against Trump.

We learned that the FBI, according to Priestap, is incapable of securing a FISA warrant with information that isn’t credible, although the judge’s approval of the warrant means by definition that the information is credible.

We learned that the FBI believes political interference in an investigation can be proper as long as the bureau isn’t acting purely politically.

We learned that the FBI did send at least one asset to do to the Trump campaign an activity that even the bureau would call “spying” — if it were done by foreign operatives.

We learned that the origins of the Trump-Russia tale will never be fully understood until the part played by British intelligence is made clear.

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It looks like the US Navy will implement "Don't ask, don't tell" for those who are mentally challenged.

Just a few days before the implementation of President Trump’s ban on transgender troops, a clarification from the Navy on the dress code of sailors could be perceived as a consolation prize, but it might feel like a slap in the face.
In a recently released administrative message, Navy officials said that sailors were free to “live socially” in their preferred gender while not on duty. They do, however, still need to conform to the standards associated with their biological gender while in uniform

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Intoxication, with a happy face mugshot.

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At least the Jehovah Witnesses don't hate my fvcking guts.

A New York Muslim cleric has said, Muslims should love and support other Muslims, but hate and not support non-Muslims.
The comments were made during an online Q&A session with New York Mufti Muhammad Ibn Muneer, and were delivered in response to a question about dealing with different types of Jews.
In his answer, Muneer cites the Islamic principle of Al-Bara Wal-Wala (disavowal and loyalty), which he said is, as explained by Ibn Al-Qayyim and many others as, loving Muslims and hating non-Muslims.

If they love their fellow Muslims so much why don't they do more for them?

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Democrats use minorities as tokens? Why that just can't be.

Another sign emerged Saturday of frustration between far-left Democrats in Congress and the party's entrenched leadership.
U.S. Rep. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., claimed in a Twitter message Saturday that she and other minority members of the party have been used as tokens whenever the party wants to project an image of inclusiveness.
The message appeared to be triggered by a California Muslim activist's assertion that Democratic leaders hadn't been adequately supportive of U.S. Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., who has been accused of trivializing the 9/11 terror attacks as "some people did something."

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I guess someone will be spending more time at the range. Genius Award Winner and a Feel Good Story of The Day all wrapped into one.

A small-town Pennsylvania police officer will not face charges after shooting an unarmed man during a struggle because the officer honestly believed at the time he was using his Taser, not his service weapon, the Bucks County district attorney's office says in a statement.
District Attorney Matthew Weintraub said the March 3 shooting was "was neither justified, nor criminal, but was excused," according to the statement posted on the DA's office website.
"Weintraub said the law excuses the shooting officer's conduct from criminal prosecution because of his 'honest but mistaken' belief he was deploying his Taser at the time he discharged his service weapon," the statement said.

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The ONT Musical Interlude
In honor of the IRS

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Risk vs. Reward. If you are compassionate, this would be a Genius Award Winner. If you're like me this is Tonight's Feel Good Story of The Day.

A 41-year-old man has died after what appears to be an attempted theft of copper wire at an electrical substation in New Brunswick.
The deceased was fatally injured during a break-in at a NB Power substation in the town of Bathurst early Saturday morning.

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Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by the Joys of Life After Death.

Notice: Posted with permission by the Ace Media Empire and AceCorp, LLC. I am a non-paid Cob spokesman who may or may not have the Ace Media Empire Dental Plan.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 10:00 PM

Comments

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1 1st

Posted by: tbodie at April 15, 2019 10:01 PM (Vgz5H)

2 Man, do I miss Reagan.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2019 10:01 PM (4knXT)

3 st

Posted by: ALH at April 15, 2019 10:01 PM (8wKjk)

4 Ronny Raygun

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 15, 2019 10:01 PM (9Om/r)

5 Sponge!

Posted by: ALH at April 15, 2019 10:01 PM (8wKjk)

6 Yea! My 1st ONT 1st. Now off to call corgis.

Posted by: tbodie at April 15, 2019 10:01 PM (Vgz5H)

7 Who waits until the afterlife to begin?

Posted by: mikeski at April 15, 2019 10:02 PM (P1f+c)

8 Ron, Nancy, and Old Glory.

Perfect was to start out a Monday night ONT.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 15, 2019 10:03 PM (sy5kK)

9 6 Yea! My 1st ONT 1st. Now off to call corgis.
Posted by: tbodie at April 15, 2019 10:01 PM (Vgz5H)

Congrats!
Thanks.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2019 10:03 PM (aA3+G)

10 6 Yea! My 1st ONT 1st. Now off to call corgis.
Posted by: tbodie at April 15, 2019 10:01 PM (Vgz5H)

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Wait! You cant leave yet.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2019 10:03 PM (4knXT)

11 Corgis called.

That is a lot of content, MisHum. Thanks.

Posted by: tbodie at April 15, 2019 10:04 PM (Vgz5H)

12 6 Yea! My 1st ONT 1st. Now off to call corgis.
Posted by: tbodie at April 15, 2019 10:01 PM (Vgz5H)

Congratulations!

Posted by: ALH at April 15, 2019 10:04 PM (8wKjk)

13 In his answer, Muneer cites the Islamic principle of Al-Bara Wal-Wala (disavowal and loyalty), which he said is, as explained by Ibn Al-Qayyim and many others as, loving Muslims and hating non-Muslims.

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F*cking wonderful. Let's import more of these people.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2019 10:04 PM (4knXT)

14 Been up too long. Tired.

Posted by: Eromero at April 15, 2019 10:05 PM (qBNEP)

15 Robert Cray

+1

Keeping it real....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 15, 2019 10:05 PM (3H9h1)

16 So the Red Guards are trying to unperson Camille Paglia?

Good luck and bring your own Styrofoam coffins because she's gonna kill ya.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 15, 2019 10:05 PM (uYZSX)

17 Beresheet on the moon? YES!

Posted by: irright at April 15, 2019 10:05 PM (RVcmP)

18 U.S. Rep. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., claimed in a Twitter message Saturday that she and other minority members of the party have been used as tokens whenever the party wants to project an image of inclusiveness.
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That token isn't accepted in most places that associate with America.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 15, 2019 10:06 PM (sy5kK)

19 First!

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2019 10:06 PM (ER1jH)

20 Evening

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at April 15, 2019 10:06 PM (IYHxL)

21 U.S. Rep. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., claimed in a Twitter message Saturday that she and other minority members of the party have been used as tokens whenever the party wants to project an image of inclusiveness.

"And Washington D.C. has had quite enough of tokin' Muslims."

Posted by: mikeski at April 15, 2019 10:07 PM (P1f+c)

22 Beards are great snack-holders. Evening everyone.

Posted by: dartist at April 15, 2019 10:07 PM (K22Va)

23 Today I did what I've done for the past 15ish years....filed an extension, sent a big check. Will figure it out in October.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at April 15, 2019 10:07 PM (FiUMj)

24 Ronald Reagan, "My fellow Americans, I just signed legislation outlawing the Soviet Union. We begin bombing in fifteen minutes."

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 15, 2019 10:08 PM (uYZSX)

25
I have a small Notre Dame sketch I bought from a street vendor in the 90s.

I most remember the gargoyles...

...and the baguettes!

Posted by: Spun & Murky at April 15, 2019 10:08 PM (4DCSq)

26 Posted by: Anna Puma at April 15, 2019 10:05 PM (uYZSX)

Anna gets an A on the shiv composition.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2019 10:08 PM (aA3+G)

27 U.S. Rep. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., claimed in a Twitter message Saturday that she and other minority members of the party have been used as tokens whenever the party wants to project an image of inclusiveness.

She's a Trophy Muslim.

Posted by: ALH at April 15, 2019 10:08 PM (8wKjk)

28 "One of the main lessons our elites seemed to derive from 9/11 is that the best way to fight Islamic terror is to welcome huge numbers of immigrants from places known for Islamic extremism." Tucker Carlson

This was just a brilliant plan. Whoever came up with it should be shot

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 15, 2019 10:09 PM (mXpBS)

29 22 Beards are great snack-holders. Evening everyone.
Posted by: dartist at April 15, 2019 10:07 PM (K22Va)

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Mooch would disagree.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2019 10:09 PM (4knXT)

30 I heard something really idiotic on the radio today. A DJ was patting herself on the back for getting a refund. And said the reason was because she keeps really good records.

Uhm no you dumb fuck. You got a refund because your employer, the radio station, took too much money from you over the course of the year. You gave the IRS an interest free loan.

But she was super happy cuz she can now buy some stuff.

These people's vote counts as much as mine and that makes me angry.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at April 15, 2019 10:09 PM (FiUMj)

31 Inclusiveness means you get turds with your punch. I don't want any inclusivenesses.

Posted by: freaked at April 15, 2019 10:09 PM (UdKB7)

32 hiya

Posted by: JT at April 15, 2019 10:10 PM (mf/Cl)

33 I had forgotten about Reagan kissing the flag. Thanks for that picture selection, MisHum!

Posted by: ALH at April 15, 2019 10:10 PM (8wKjk)

34 "Who waits until the afterlife to begin? "

Fucking stiffs?

Posted by: freaked at April 15, 2019 10:10 PM (UdKB7)

35 This was just a brilliant plan. Whoever came up with it should be shot
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 15, 2019 10:09 PM (mXpBS)

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You just have to give it time to work.

Posted by: El Gobernador Heb Booosch at April 15, 2019 10:10 PM (4knXT)

36 Man, this has been a rotten day.

Right now, I'm taking the position that the Notre Dame fire was not the work of the religion of peace. But I am considerably less confident that Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib weren't cackling with glee on hearing the news.

Posted by: Dr. T at April 15, 2019 10:10 PM (2PXwn)

37 Two things that will not happen: 'President' Buttplug and fetch.

Posted by: CarpeMish at April 15, 2019 10:10 PM (OUlqh)

38 The researchers found a significantly higher bacterial load in specimens taken from the men's beards compared with the dogs' fur.

*******

Behold the awesome and previously unrecognized antibacterial properties of squirrel shit.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 15, 2019 10:11 PM (m45I2)

39 Posted by: Lurking Lurker at April 15, 2019 10:09 PM (FiUMj)

Most people don't understand that.

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at April 15, 2019 10:11 PM (IYHxL)

40 This happens every time I get entrapped in the content, otherwise, I coulda been a contenduh!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 15, 2019 10:11 PM (f3oO4)

41 ~~Read~~ ~~Scanned~~ Skimmed teh "content"!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at April 15, 2019 10:11 PM (CLcKT)

42 U.S. Rep. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., claimed in a Twitter message Saturday that she and other minority members of the party have been used as tokens whenever the party wants to project an image of inclusiveness.

She's a Trophy Muslim.
Posted by: ALH at April 15, 2019 10:08 PM (8wKjk)

Bitch ain't nothin'.

Posted by: Trophy Goats Everywhere at April 15, 2019 10:11 PM (Vgz5H)

43 Cob spokesman who may or may not have the Ace Media Empire Dental Plan

I am interested is this Dental Plan you refer to, despite your toxic masculine title.

Posted by: Alexandria Occasional-Cortex at April 15, 2019 10:12 PM (uL22A)

44 36 Man, this has been a rotten day.

Right now, I'm taking the position that the Notre Dame fire was not the work of the religion of peace. But I am considerably less confident that Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib weren't cackling with glee on hearing the news.
Posted by: Dr. T at April 15, 2019 10:10 PM (2PXwn)

I respectfully disagree, i suspect they are sad that the crosses won't come down and the minarets go up.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2019 10:12 PM (aA3+G)

45 I'll re-post this

Notre Dame, What Endures

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yym2yyvn

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 15, 2019 10:12 PM (uYZSX)

46 I knew it!!! I knew these hipster beard boys were diseased! Quarantine NOW!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 10:13 PM (5aX2M)

47
If they love their fellow Muslims so much why don't they do more for them?

They love their fellow muzzies to death, usually with a suicide belt. Although a speeding vehicle or a knife will do in a pinch.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at April 15, 2019 10:13 PM (HaL55)

48 33 I had forgotten about Reagan kissing the flag. Thanks for that picture selection, MisHum!
Posted by: ALH at April 15, 2019 10:10 PM (8wKjk)

Thanks and how was your day?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2019 10:13 PM (aA3+G)

49 I did mine right.

Got $75 back.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 10:14 PM (5aX2M)

50 I've seen pictures of guys who get fried trying to steal copper.

Crispy Critters!

Posted by: ALH at April 15, 2019 10:14 PM (8wKjk)

51 Muneer cites the Islamic principle of Al-Bara Wal-Wala (disavowal and loyalty), which he said is, as explained by Ibn Al-Qayyim and many others as, loving Muslims and hating non-Muslims.

The very basis for a high trust homogenous civil society!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 15, 2019 10:14 PM (f3oO4)

52 Read the content, checked the comments - only 6. I'llllll bet there's more than that by now.

Sex in the Afterlife: Have a relative who was adamant about his frustration that in heaven everybody's genitalia were, well, Ken-and-Barbie type.

Good evening!

Posted by: mindful webworker wonders if there's life after sex at April 15, 2019 10:14 PM (ZOlfu)

53 It's the MOOT!

Free Farmer!

Posted by: Insomniac - Founder, Farmer Liberation Front at April 15, 2019 10:14 PM (NWiLs)

54 Taxes done. Thank you PDT. Our taxes this year were half what they were last year even though our income increased a modest 2 percent.

Posted by: cfo mom at April 15, 2019 10:15 PM (RfzVr)

55 Remember, we may laugh at Lefties for being dumb, but they think we are evil.

When your opponent has been deemed evil, any action of any kind against them is justified.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 15, 2019 10:15 PM (sy5kK)

56 Taxes done. Thank you PDT. Our taxes this year were half what they were last year even though our income increased a modest 2 percent.

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I saved a bundle.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 10:15 PM (5aX2M)

57 Does a Beresheet in the woods?

Posted by: Muldoon at April 15, 2019 10:16 PM (m45I2)

58 5 I'll re-post this

Notre Dame, What Endures

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yym2yyvn
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 15, 2019 10:12 PM (uYZSX)
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Very Nice. I hope they can keep it from being further destroyed.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 15, 2019 10:16 PM (RBOtF)

59 Sex in the afterlife? I can't even get sex in THIS life.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 15, 2019 10:16 PM (dUJdY)

60 Sex in the Afterlife: Have a relative who was adamant about his frustration that in heaven everybody's genitalia were, well, Ken-and-Barbie type.

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I'm betting it's more like Mr. Potatohead. You can choose from a variety of sizes and colors.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2019 10:16 PM (4knXT)

61 The Oakland cop did the same thing and he was convicted of involuntary manslaughter. I think he got two years.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 15, 2019 10:16 PM (2DOZq)

62 Thanks and how was your day?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2019 10:13 PM (aA3+G)

It was just fine for a Monday. It was kind of cold today, didn't get above 67. I turned the furnace on when I got home to take the chill off.

What was your day like?

Posted by: ALH at April 15, 2019 10:16 PM (8wKjk)

63 53 It's the MOOT!

Free Farmer!
Posted by: Insomniac - Founder, Farmer Liberation Front at April 15, 2019 10:14 PM (NWiLs)

have him send me his banned hash to petmorons at gmail
Contrary to what some people think, I don't have a crystal ball or espn

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2019 10:16 PM (aA3+G)

64 Google is advertising a lot on FOX today. Hannity and Tucker.

Something's up. And it can't be good.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 15, 2019 10:17 PM (sy5kK)

65 54 Taxes done. Thank you PDT. Our taxes this year were half what they were last year even though our income increased a modest 2 percent.
Posted by: cfo mom at April 15, 2019 10:15 PM (RfzVr)

Good news for a Monday!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2019 10:17 PM (aA3+G)

66 I most remember the gargoyles...

On leave in 74 I stayed on the Champs Elysees and visited Notre Dame. I think i have Kodak prints from a balcony showing gargoyles and the Eiffel Tower in the background. I hope they can save the stained glass. Very cool church.

Posted by: dartist at April 15, 2019 10:18 PM (K22Va)

67 Alan Rickman in Dogma.

I'm as anatomically correct as a Ken doll.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 15, 2019 10:18 PM (wN7fp)

68 Lots of stuff to do tomorrow, good night all.

Posted by: tbodie at April 15, 2019 10:18 PM (Vgz5H)

69 What was your day like?
Posted by: ALH at April 15, 2019 10:16 PM (8wKjk)

Some good, some bad, some in between.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2019 10:18 PM (aA3+G)

70 I Want to Ride My Bicycle ONT Compliance Pics

http://tinyurl.com/y2m3gshp

http://tinyurl.com/y2myogpn

http://tinyurl.com/yxrnz8mf

http://tinyurl.com/y56kh7j7

http://tinyurl.com/yxufkk9j

Posted by: Shep Smith at April 15, 2019 10:19 PM (0Ntuf)

71
Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by the Joys of Life After Death.

No tip of the hat to buzzion?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at April 15, 2019 10:19 PM (HaL55)

72 I respectfully disagree, i suspect they are sad that the crosses won't come down and the minarets go up.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2019 10:12 PM (aA3+G)

From the picture that Anna posted I was reminded of the metal cross that was found by the NYFD in the ruins of 9/11. I don't think that was just done by "some people"!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 15, 2019 10:19 PM (f3oO4)

73
Some good, some bad, some in between.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2019 10:18 PM (aA3+G)

Hope the good was really good, and the bad wasn't that bad!

Posted by: ALH at April 15, 2019 10:19 PM (8wKjk)

74 I'm leaning towards muzzies burning down ND simply because of the timing. Less than a week before Easter? That's one hell of a coincidence.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at April 15, 2019 10:20 PM (FiUMj)

75 Some good, some bad, some in between.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2019 10:18 PM (aA3+G)

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Well, look at it this way... at least your Church didn't burn down.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 10:20 PM (5aX2M)

76 Beresheet did fine, considering it was built on a shoestring budget compared to most spacecraft.

Back in the late 50s and early 60s, America had a string of failed lunar probes before we had a success. Before the technology of soft landing was developed, the early Ranger probes were designed to take closeup pictures of the Moon before crashing into it.

Sounds easy enough, right? The first six attempts failed for a variety of reasons. On one, the second stage failed to relight, stranding it in Earth orbit. Another one went off course and missed the Moon entirely. Another one made a perfect flight but the cameras didn't turn on.

It wasn't until Ranger 7 that America was even able to crash a probe into the Moon properly.

Posted by: rickl at April 15, 2019 10:20 PM (sdi6R)

77 I did mine right.

Got $75 back.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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$ back from the Feds, $ money owed to NC.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2019 10:20 PM (CDGwz)

78 I made more and still got a huge refend.

Awesome.

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at April 15, 2019 10:20 PM (IYHxL)

79 More I Want to Ride My Bicycle ONT Compliance Pics

http://tinyurl.com/y6b9moer

http://tinyurl.com/y6dlgdsg

http://tinyurl.com/y3z5djj4

http://tinyurl.com/yx97tu42

http://tinyurl.com/y4lsompl

Posted by: kbdabear at April 15, 2019 10:21 PM (0Ntuf)

80 rickl, How was the pot roast?

Posted by: Ben Had at April 15, 2019 10:21 PM (wN7fp)

81 James Woods said he was devastated by the fire. I didn't even know he was Catholic.

Posted by: kallisto at April 15, 2019 10:21 PM (avEKX)

82 "And Washington D.C. has had quite enough of tokin' Muslims."
Posted by: mikeski at April 15, 2019 10:07 PM (P1f+c)

Bitch set me up!

Posted by: Former DC mayor Marion Barry at April 15, 2019 10:22 PM (zCyNd)

83 When your opponent has been deemed evil, any action of any kind against them is justified.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 15, 2019 10:15 PM (sy5kK)

Tricky business that, because when you're convinced you're combatting pure evil, how can there be any limits on what is allowed?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 15, 2019 10:22 PM (f3oO4)

84 You wanna talk beards?

http://tinyurl.com/y4v9wdea

Posted by: davidt at April 15, 2019 10:23 PM (+IOFD)

85 45 I'll re-post this
Notre Dame, What Endures
https://preview.tinyurl.com/yym2yyvn
Posted by: Anna Puma

Thanks for that.

Posted by: mindful webworker wanders aimlessly through the ashes at April 15, 2019 10:23 PM (ZOlfu)

86 Something's up. And it can't be good.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg
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Maybe they have figured out that there has to be an audience in order for the advertising to work.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2019 10:23 PM (CDGwz)

87 $ back from the Feds, $ money owed to NC.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2019 10:20 PM (CDGwz)

Party at Mike's Place Woot-Woot!!!!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2019 10:23 PM (aA3+G)

88 It appears that the towers stone shell of Notre Dame were saved.

So what happens now?

Will it be rebuilt?

Will it become a landmark ruins like The Parthenon?

Whatever happens, I believe that its use as a cathedral ended today.

Posted by: kbdabear at April 15, 2019 10:23 PM (0Ntuf)

89 I have a small Notre Dame sketch I bought from a street vendor in the 90s.

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At St. Stephen's in Vienna, Hitler plied his trade as a painter in the same way.

Gotta keep a real close eye on those guys... real close.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 10:24 PM (5aX2M)

90 MH, don't forget the Temptations' psychedelic classic Ball of Confusion. "politicians say more taxes will solve everything. And the band played on."

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 15, 2019 10:24 PM (PUmDY)

91 $ back from the Feds, $ money owed to NC.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2019 10:20 PM (CDGwz)

Party at Mike's Place Woot-Woot!!!!
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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Hold it, the $ back are less than the dollars owed. We can have the party, but bring money.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2019 10:24 PM (CDGwz)

92 Posted by: Shep Smith at April 15, 2019 10:19 PM (0Ntuf)

I didn't think you were straight, Shep.

Posted by: Surfperch at April 15, 2019 10:24 PM (tVQUs)

93 those fucking Israelis better take it easy on the moon. went out there the night of their crash and one third of the fucking moon was missing.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 10:25 PM (MTjB1)

94 Tricky business that, because when you're convinced you're combatting pure evil, how can there be any limits on what is allowed?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar

At least in Tricky Business, there is no U-boat commander.

Also, Tom Cruise should be thrown from the top of a high wall.

So it is written.

Posted by: Mullah Miklos at April 15, 2019 10:26 PM (zCyNd)

95 > Good luck and bring your own Styrofoam coffins because she's gonna kill ya.

Saw her lecture in person about 15-20 years ago. The feminazi contingent showed up to give her grief.

She chewed them up and left them lying bleeding on the lecture hall floor.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 15, 2019 10:26 PM (0OWcv)

96 rickl, How was the pot roast?
Posted by: Ben Had at A

tasted ok but he had a bitch of a time getting it into the bong.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 10:26 PM (MTjB1)

97 That Future Democrat video: I knew the kids in that video since my son's team had played both in the past. The team with the player who did the pushing was from a Jesuit school. They had just lost a big game. The team with the kid that was pushed in was from a christian school. But the main reason in my opinion for the lack of sportsmanship is the mommas spoiled boy syndrome.

Posted by: Martell at April 15, 2019 10:26 PM (N7J/1)

98 28 "One of the main lessons our elites seemed to derive from 9/11 is that the best way to fight Islamic terror is to welcome huge numbers of immigrants from places known for Islamic extremism." Tucker Carlson

This was just a brilliant plan. Whoever came up with it should be shot
Posted by: TheQuietMan

Give honor where it is due. The Europeans are way ahead of us on this plan.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 15, 2019 10:26 PM (+lVUW)

99 those fucking Israelis better take it easy on the moon. went out there the night of their crash and one third of the fucking moon was missing.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 10:25 PM (MTjB1)

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You can have it back.

For a price.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2019 10:26 PM (4knXT)

100 It will be interesting to see the Gilets Jaunes reaction to the fire. They're already pissed off at the muz.

Posted by: kallisto at April 15, 2019 10:27 PM (avEKX)

101 muzzies burning down ND simply because of the timing. Less than a week before Easter? That's one hell of a coincidence.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at A

the jihadis burned down north dakota, how would someone even know?

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 10:27 PM (MTjB1)

102 mrs_jack and I went grocery shopping. I saw some Brawny paper towels. Instead of the usual "brawny" guy on the front, it was some girls and the message "STRENGTH HAS NO GENDER"

So Brawny paper towels are going woke now.

https://www.brawny.com/strengthhasnogender

I don't want to be mean, but the chick in the front middle doesn't look brawny. She looks... scrawny. Couldn't they at least have gotten a woman who is actually brawny?

Note, this is a special campaign. The main web page still features that shockingly white male.

https://www.brawny.com/

Posted by: mr_jack at April 15, 2019 10:27 PM (57l0O)

103 > Beresheet did fine, considering it was built on a shoestring budget compared to most spacecraft.

Kept flashing back to the "Jews in Space" portion of History of the World, Part I by Mel Brooks.

The guy would basically never have a career if he were starting out totday.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 15, 2019 10:27 PM (0OWcv)

104

Avenatti

Buttigieg

the two that the Leftie press have been the most excited about for the Dem 2020 conversation in the last year.

1 down, 1 to go.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 15, 2019 10:28 PM (sy5kK)

105 You can have it back.

For a price.
Posted by: Cicero

Maybe. The "West" in West Bank nay be part of a larger concept.

Posted by: Miklos, annex like the wind! at April 15, 2019 10:28 PM (zCyNd)

106 80 rickl, How was the pot roast?
Posted by: Ben Had at April 15, 2019 10:21 PM (wN7fp)

It turned out fine! I got a total of seven portions. I ate one Sunday night and froze the rest to microwave for lunches or dinners.

The thing I hate the most about cooking is the prep work, all the chopping and dicing of ingredients beforehand. It's nice to just dump everything in the crock pot and turn it on. I will be doing this again.

Posted by: rickl at April 15, 2019 10:28 PM (sdi6R)

107 "Who waits until the afterlife to begin? "

Fucking stiffs?

Posted by: freaked at April 15, 2019 10:10 PM (UdKB7)
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married men.

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2019 10:28 PM (ER1jH)

108 That Future Democrat video: Sooo funny to see that again. I watched that game live. I knew the kids in that video since my son's team had played both in the past. The team with the player who did the pushing was from a Jesuit school. They had just lost a big game. The team with the kid that was pushed in was from another christian school. The main reason in my opinion for the lack of sportsmanship is what I call the mommas spoiled boy syndrome. We knew those kids and their moms.

Posted by: Martell at April 15, 2019 10:29 PM (N7J/1)

109 someone seen wds here lately?

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 10:30 PM (MTjB1)

110 I made more and still got a huge refend.

Awesome.
Posted by: thathalfrican

I can write your NYT opinion piece, if you like.

Not much work, it's kind of boilerplate.

Posted by: Miklos, lifelong anti-Trump taxpayer something something at April 15, 2019 10:30 PM (zCyNd)

111 Diamonds. Everyone gets so excited about diamonds! For what, I ask? They're common as glass beads, compared to my newly acquired moon rocks.

Posted by: Moishe's Discount Electronics And Moon Rocks at April 15, 2019 10:31 PM (5aX2M)

112 y5, No and I sent an email and haven't heard back.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 15, 2019 10:31 PM (wN7fp)

113 I made more and still got a huge refend.

Awesome.
Posted by: thathalfrican

I can write

that is generally called a mistake.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 10:31 PM (MTjB1)

114 married men.
Posted by: redc1c4

Bad, bad man.

"all humor contains an element of cruelty"

No comment about marriages.

Posted by: Miklos, lifelong confirmed bachelor at April 15, 2019 10:32 PM (zCyNd)

115 "I made more and still got a huge refend. "

You can make 100% more and get a refund or make 50% less and owe.

Refunds are all about how much did you send in during the year vs how much you owe. I wish people would stop equating a refund with paying less taxes.

You probably did pay less since virtually everyone paid less. But paying less and getting a refund have nothing to do with each other.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at April 15, 2019 10:32 PM (FiUMj)

116 Will it become a landmark ruins like The Parthenon?

I think it should, but these goofy politicians will hack it back together some way and pat themselves on the back. Remember that painting of Jesus that was ridiculously restored? Maybe it'll boost tourism.

http://tinyurl.com/zpty8rf

Posted by: dartist at April 15, 2019 10:33 PM (K22Va)

117 No and I sent an email and haven't heard back.
Posted by: Ben Had at A

thanks, let me know if you do.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 10:33 PM (MTjB1)

118 Note, this is a special campaign. The main web page still features that shockingly white male.

https://www.brawny.com/
Posted by: mr_jack

I INVENTED TRANSGRESSIVE

Posted by: Mr. Clean at April 15, 2019 10:33 PM (zCyNd)

119 "all humor contains an element of cruelty"

No comment about marriages.
Posted by: Miklos, lifelong confirmed bachelor at A

you find something humorous about marriages?

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 10:34 PM (MTjB1)

120 I meant to tell you all even though last Friday was a bust for my show, Saturday was way better and I actually showed a modest profit. So.. not a total loss and the people who hosted realized Friday night is NOT ladies night. So.. I will be back.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 15, 2019 10:34 PM (dUJdY)

121 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2019 10:24 PM (CDGwz)

BYOM Party 1/2 woot

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2019 10:35 PM (aA3+G)

122 Actually, JWs can be very hostile and condescending to non believers, especially apostates. They're passive aggressive. Islam is actively aggressive.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 15, 2019 10:35 PM (EZebt)

123 have him send me his banned hash to petmorons at gmail
Contrary to what some people think, I don't have a crystal ball or espn
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2019 10:16 PM (aA3+G)

According to him, he's sent multiple emails to multiple COBS, about this specific problem but I will be sure to pass this along. I think ESPN gets bundled in with most cable packages, unfortunately.

Posted by: Insomniac - Founder, Farmer Liberation Front at April 15, 2019 10:35 PM (NWiLs)

124 Dick Gephardt's imaginary millionaire friend must be extra super unhappy.

Posted by: Miklos of long memory at April 15, 2019 10:36 PM (zCyNd)

125 I've read that France is starting an international fund raising effort tomorrow to rebuild the cathedral...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at April 15, 2019 10:36 PM (CLcKT)

126 you find something humorous about marriages?
Posted by: yankeefifth

hint: one of the other two nouns

Posted by: Miklos, insufficiently clear in aphorism at April 15, 2019 10:37 PM (zCyNd)

127 122 Actually, JWs can be very hostile and condescending to non believers, especially apostates.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 15, 2019 10:35 PM (EZebt)

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Pffft. Hold my e-meter.

Posted by: Scientology at April 15, 2019 10:37 PM (4knXT)

128 Good Evening

Posted by: wing at April 15, 2019 10:37 PM (JFzNN)

129 if farmer is banned the software did for its own safety.

you should have seen what he did to las vegas.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 10:37 PM (MTjB1)

130 125 I've read that France is starting an international fund raising effort tomorrow to rebuild the cathedral...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at April 15, 2019 10:36 PM (CLcKT)

It's still the property of The Church. The French government would use what they don't pocket for "Muslim Outreach Programs"

Posted by: kbdabear at April 15, 2019 10:38 PM (0Ntuf)

131 Posted by: Martell at April 15, 2019 10:29 PM (N7J/1)

Color me shocked

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2019 10:38 PM (aA3+G)

132 Posted by: Miklos of long memory at April 15, 2019 10:36 PM (zCyNd)

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I'm sure he wrote a stupendous check to the US Treasury out of the goodness of his heart to offset the paucity of revenue in the Trump era.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 10:38 PM (5aX2M)

133 It's still the property of The Church. The French government would use what they don't pocket for "Muslim Outreach Programs"
Posted by: kbdabear at A

owned by the government, run by the church. worst deal ever. the brexit of real estate negotiations.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 10:39 PM (MTjB1)

134 Worst Idea Ever? NY Times Wants To Make Everyone's Taxes Public

But, but... Norway and Finland do it, so it obviously would work here! /s

Three obvious consequences:

1) A huge rise in tax evasion - it gives a vast new incentive to understate your income, to avoid having everyone else find out about your real earnings

2) Google would vacuum that information up, and relate it to everything else they know about you. You think Google is intrusive now...

3) A Golden Age of identity theft - even with suppressing SS numbers and DOB, it would provide a near-complete guide to impersonating someone, and stealing their money.

Posted by: The ARC of History at April 15, 2019 10:39 PM (I2/tG)

135 MH: i heard from Farmer this afternoon, so i replied back and told him to try and find his banned hash.

you'll know if i hear back from him.

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2019 10:39 PM (ER1jH)

136 maybe someone could force the filthy bureaucrats in church to get over there and do some manual labor.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 10:39 PM (MTjB1)

137

Is Buttplug Top or Bottom?

I at least want out leaders to be the Bugg-er and and not the Bugg-ee.

Chocolate Jesus was such a little bitch Bottom he makes Trudeau look manly...

Posted by: M K Ultra at April 15, 2019 10:40 PM (UFLLM)

138 I've read that France is starting an international fund raising effort tomorrow to rebuild the cathedral...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto

I say we send 10,000 El Salvadorans to help out.

A whole million, what was I thinking.

Posted by: Miklos, Lafayette, somos aqui! at April 15, 2019 10:40 PM (zCyNd)

139 besides, with a 35 hour work week how long will it take to rebuild that thing?

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 10:40 PM (MTjB1)

140 Got my taxes filed. Surprised I got a refund. Usually it's a wash between state and fed (I do that on purpose), but i got a refund from both. Nothing big, but better than not. Yay me

Posted by: BigZesty at April 15, 2019 10:41 PM (vlyfb)

141 Welp, this turned into a shitty day. Just found out that one of my sons teachers apparently committed suicide last night or some time today. He also lives in our neighborhood so I have met his wife several times and know their two kids, both under 11. How sad and tragic for the family.

Posted by: lin-duh at April 15, 2019 10:41 PM (UUBmN)

142 I'll drink your health, steal your wealth, run your life, steal your wife also come to mind on 4/15.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 15, 2019 10:41 PM (PUmDY)

143 Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 10:40 PM (MTjB1)

Don't they get summers off as well?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 15, 2019 10:42 PM (f3oO4)

144 141 Welp, this turned into a shitty day. Just found out that one of my sons teachers apparently committed suicide last night or some time today. He also lives in our neighborhood so I have met his wife several times and know their two kids, both under 11. How sad and tragic for the family.
Posted by: lin-duh at April 15, 2019 10:41 PM (UUBmN)

Oh man. Prayers for everybody.

Posted by: Insomniac - Founder, Farmer Liberation Front at April 15, 2019 10:42 PM (NWiLs)

145 How long before Mittens Severely Conservative Romney endorses the NYT idea?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at April 15, 2019 10:42 PM (FiUMj)

146 Is ace the only sane voice left on the internet?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Off the reservation at April 15, 2019 10:42 PM (vWMNq)

147 So today is also the anniversary of the Boston Marathon bombing?

The Muzz do love them some anniversary violence..... was there any historically significant Islamic war or anything on this date?
Because that's kind of a weird coincidence.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette at April 15, 2019 10:42 PM (tcwZs)

148
I've read that France is starting an international fund raising effort tomorrow to rebuild the cathedral...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto

I say we send 10,000 El Salvadorans to help out.

A whole million, what was I thinking.

Posted by: Miklos, Lafayette, somos aqui! at April 15, 2019 10:40 PM (zCyNd)

Ferengi Rules of Acquisition #242- More is good, All is better.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 15, 2019 10:42 PM (9Om/r)

149 138 I've read that France is starting an international fund raising effort tomorrow to rebuild the cathedral...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto

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"Just build the dang cathedral."

Posted by: Zombie John McCain at April 15, 2019 10:42 PM (4knXT)

150 Got 5.5" of snow last night and it's gone today. Record breaker from 1961. I hope MisHum isn't listening.

Posted by: dartist at April 15, 2019 10:42 PM (K22Va)

151 Don't they get summers off as well?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at A

lol, do not know. do know that their teachers get huge sabbatical leave.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 10:43 PM (MTjB1)

152 Posted by: Insomniac - Founder, Farmer Liberation Front at April 15, 2019 10:35 PM (NWiLs)

Not sure what Cobs got emails, I was not one of them

Without the banned hash isn't anything I can do

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2019 10:43 PM (aA3+G)

153 President Trump offered to send firefighting air tankers to Notre Dame but France would not let them cross French airspace...

Posted by: Awotter at April 15, 2019 10:43 PM (0x00j)

154 Lin-duh how sad. Prayers sent for the family.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 15, 2019 10:43 PM (dUJdY)

155 I think it should, but these goofy politicians will hack it back together some way and pat themselves on the back. Remember that painting of Jesus that was ridiculously restored? Maybe it'll boost tourism.

Posted by: dartist at April 15, 2019 10:33 PM (K22Va)

I would not bet on a reconstructed cathedral celebrating only the Roman Catholic religion. Globalist multi-culturalists like the current French elite will want to put their stamp on a re-built Notre Dame, somehow. Not too hard to do since the French Government owns the cathedral, not the Church.

Posted by: Gref at April 15, 2019 10:44 PM (AMIL/)

156 152 Posted by: Insomniac - Founder, Farmer Liberation Front at April 15, 2019 10:35 PM (NWiLs)

Not sure what Cobs got emails, I was not one of them

Without the banned hash isn't anything I can do
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2019 10:43 PM (aA3+G)

Roger. I've passed it along. Thanks!

Posted by: Insomniac - Founder, Farmer Liberation Front at April 15, 2019 10:45 PM (NWiLs)

157 Posted by: dartist at April 15, 2019 10:42 PM (K22Va)

Condolences
We still got that white shit here.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2019 10:45 PM (aA3+G)

158 A New York Muslim cleric has said, Muslims should love and support other Muslims, but hate and not support non-Muslims.

MEMRI does a great job of capturing and translating this mode of islamic supremist belief, which is assuredly repeated in mosques throughout the world daily, and

Nobody on The Left apparently believes they mean it. Too many on the Right have the same problem.

Sigh. Thanks for the ONT, Mis Hum.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 15, 2019 10:45 PM (Z4rgH)

159 My take on the Notre Dame fire:

I'm willing to assume that the fire was an accident, because repair work was being done to the roof and the fire appears to have started in the roof. So far I haven't seen any discussion of 1) exactly what kind of work was being done, and 2) what equipment was being used. I hope that the workers are being extensively interviewed, but I guess that anyone who made a mistake is probably afraid to admit it for fear of prosecution.

On the other hand, it seems that a number of churches in France have been vandalized lately, and I think we can safely guess who is responsible. If it turns out to be Muslim-caused arson, there needs to be an uprising not only in France but in Europe generally. What else would it take, the Louvre being torched? That is guaranteed to happen sooner or later, if Europe continues on its present course of Islamization.

Another possibility is if it really was a work accident, but the people have become so distrustful of the leadership that they blame the Muslims anyway. Then things could start to get interesting. I would expect the yellow vest protests to ramp up a notch, or several notches. From watching the live videos today, it looked like there was a long delay before there was a meaningful response by the firefighters. If the people consider that to be incompetence on the part of the authorities, they won't soon forget it. Governments have fallen for less.

Posted by: rickl at April 15, 2019 10:45 PM (sdi6R)

160 I understand that it's a one of a kind artistic masterpiece that will cost billions to faithfully restore. But it's certainly insured. And between that, and France being a 1st world nation-state that holds the paper on the place, just why exactly are they passing the hat?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 10:46 PM (5aX2M)

161 someone was suggesting one or more of the falcon heavy boosters started the fire by landing on the roof.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 10:46 PM (MTjB1)

162 160 I understand that it's a one of a kind artistic masterpiece that will cost billions to faithfully restore. But it's certainly insured. And between that, and France being a 1st world nation-state that holds the paper on the place, just why exactly are they passing the hat?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 10:46 PM (5aX2M)

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Low policy limits?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2019 10:47 PM (4knXT)

163 money? france ain't got no stinking money. europe is a giant stinking shithole that is coasting by with its former glory.

no one goes to europe to look at anything they have done in the last century.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 10:48 PM (MTjB1)

164

Jews did it! The Israeli moon probe actually went rogue and dropped itself on Paris, not the moon. The crash story was a cover up. Jews!

Posted by: Your Local Imam at April 15, 2019 10:48 PM (UFLLM)

165 160 I understand that it's a one of a kind artistic masterpiece that will cost billions to faithfully restore. But it's certainly insured. And between that, and France being a 1st world nation-state that holds the paper on the place, just why exactly are they passing the hat?

It is NOT "insured". It's owned by the French Government - all Government's "self insure" which in practical fact means they never did shit to insure anything.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 15, 2019 10:49 PM (V2Yro)

166 I would not bet on a reconstructed cathedral celebrating only the Roman
Catholic religion. Globalist multi-culturalists like the current French
elite will want to put their stamp on a re-built Notre Dame, somehow.
Not too hard to do since the French Government owns the cathedral, not
the Church.

Tucker had Steyn on and he said rebuild it to represent what? France has changed so much they can't rebuild it Catholic. I think you're right, it's a damn shame.

Posted by: dartist at April 15, 2019 10:49 PM (K22Va)

167 why do you think it is insured?

were it insured there would likely have been some requirement for sprinklers or something.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 10:49 PM (MTjB1)

168 I understand that it's a one of a kind artistic
masterpiece that will cost billions to faithfully restore. But it's
certainly insured. And between that, and France being a 1st world
nation-state that holds the paper on the place, just why exactly are
they passing the hat?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 10:46 PM

IIRC, cathredral construction was traditionally paid for by specific voluntary donations...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at April 15, 2019 10:49 PM (CLcKT)

169 HORDE MEDICAL ADVICE TIME

so lately, usually at the endbof the day, I'll get a really painful burning sensation at the base of one of my big toes. Usually goes away after a few minutes.

My mom had bunions, but my feet still look straight imo.

No swelling or redness.

Do you guys think it's the start of a bunion, or gout, or arthritis, or something else?

I have flat feet ftr.

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at April 15, 2019 10:49 PM (dm05u)

170 IIRC, just about all of France takes the month of August off...

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2019 10:50 PM (ER1jH)

171 Tucker had Steyn on and he said rebuild it to represent what? France has changed so much they can't rebuild it Catholic. I think you're right, it's a damn shame.
Posted by: dartist at A

you know, they are right. leave it a smoking crater.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 10:50 PM (MTjB1)

172 167 why do you think it is insured?

were it insured there would likely have been some requirement for sprinklers or something.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 10:49 PM (MTjB1)

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Jake from State Farm is off the hook on this one.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2019 10:50 PM (4knXT)

173

The minaret on the rebuild will be lovely!

Posted by: Your Local Imam at April 15, 2019 10:50 PM (UFLLM)

174 Why do I like President Donald J. Trump? He fights using the 'Rules of Alinsky'.

I'm sorry but Alinsky was an idiot and an asshole. I hate when people treat him like some great genius of warfare, like a modern Sun Tzu or something.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 15, 2019 10:51 PM (ASicf)

175 153 President Trump offered to send firefighting air tankers to Notre Dame but France would not let them cross French airspace...

funny joke - but if we talk seriously, we should accept that air tankers was a truly idiotic idea, on the level of putting out the fire by blowing it out with a string of 2,000 lb JDAM's.

(not an idle comparison)

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 15, 2019 10:51 PM (V2Yro)

176 My mom had bunions, but my feet still look straight imo.

No swelling or redness.

Do you guys think it's the start of a bunion, or gout, or arthritis, or something else?

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You're lucky you came to a lawyer. Have you been around talcum powder or had a vaginal mesh?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2019 10:51 PM (4knXT)

177 HORDE MEDICAL ADVICE TIME

so lately, usually at the endbof the day, I'll get a really painful burning sensation at the base of one of my big toes. Usually goes away after a few minutes.

My mom had bunions, but my feet still look straight imo.

No swelling or redness.

Do you guys think it's the start of a bunion, or gout, or arthritis, or something else?

I have flat feet ftr.

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at April 15, 2019 10:49 PM (dm05u)
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it's a tumor.

Posted by: Arnold S. at April 15, 2019 10:51 PM (ER1jH)

178 Insured by whom?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 15, 2019 10:51 PM (PUmDY)

179 "One of the main lessons our elites seemed to derive from 9/11 is that the best way to fight Islamic terror is to welcome huge numbers of immigrants from places known for Islamic extremism."

Tony Blair in Washington, a couple of days ago:

"I think it would be tragic for the West and the world if we sort of close down and start erecting barriers between nations again because, frankly, it won't work for a start"

Yeah, because importing millions of Muslims into England has worked out really well, right, Tony?

Posted by: The ARC of History at April 15, 2019 10:51 PM (I2/tG)

180 Another possibility is if it really was a work accident, but the people have become so distrustful of the leadership that they blame the Muslims anyway. Then things could start to get interesting.

Wretchard (Richard Fernandez) in particular has been writing about this. When the authorities lose trust (as in..well..let's stick to France for now) as has happened, nobody believes them, and that's when suspicion and rumour become powerful.

Western governments are working to the same level of credibility the the East European systems had.

To quote from an American writer, "gradually, then suddenly."

Posted by: Miklos, who still bathes more and drinks less than Papa Hemingway at April 15, 2019 10:52 PM (zCyNd)

181 173

The minaret on the rebuild will be lovely!
Posted by: Your Local Imam at April 15, 2019 10:50 PM (UFLLM)

Somebody commented earlier that Saudi Arabia will pay for the reconstruction, provided that a couple of architectural changes are made...

Posted by: rickl at April 15, 2019 10:53 PM (sdi6R)

182 Awesome ONT Mis Hum, wasn't certain what to comment on so I'll choose this:
A small-town Pennsylvania police officer will not face charges after shooting an unarmed man during a struggle because the officer honestly believed at the time he was using his Taser, not his service weapon, the Bucks County district attorney's office says in a statement.
District Attorney Matthew Weintraub said the March 3 shooting was "was neither justified, nor criminal, but was excused," according to the statement posted on the DA's office website.

"Weintraub said the law excuses the shooting officer's conduct from criminal prosecution because of his 'honest but mistaken' belief he was deploying his Taser at the time he discharged his service weapon," the statement said."

Police don't need Batman utility Belts, they need a gun, handcuffs, and a club. If you resist you will be shot, and then maybe beaten. None of this pepper spray, tases, or anything else, comfy or be shot.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at April 15, 2019 10:53 PM (Rz2Nc)

183 so lately, usually at the endbof the day, I'll get a
really painful burning sensation at the base of one of my big toes.
Usually goes away after a few minutes.
My mom had bunions, but my feet still look straight imo.
No swelling or redness.
Do you guys think it's the start of a bunion, or gout, or arthritis, or something else?
I have flat feet ftr.
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at April 15, 2019 10:49 PM

Tendonitis...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at April 15, 2019 10:53 PM (CLcKT)

184 funny joke - but if we talk seriously, we should accept that air tankers was a truly idiotic idea, on the level of putting out the fire by blowing it out with a string of 2,000 lb JDAM's.

(not an idle comparison)
Posted by: Tom Servo at A

not sure why so many are so comfortable with that line of thinking.

would you rather have your church knocked down by water or burned down?

besides they could have used helicopters and not fixed wings.

getting in early and knocking down the fire and some of the church would be better than where they are now.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 10:53 PM (MTjB1)

185 Wow, the ONT is chock fulla content - Thanks, MisHum!

Coupla things:

1 - re: Ms Paglia: Her university's president came down full force on the side of ... her. Refreshing!

B) re: te taser/gun case: FoHQ Andrew Branca's post of the day explained why (contra a similar case in -IIRC - Nebraska).

III - Tonight was my mom's 11th yarzheit (anniversary of her passing). Mrs ibguy and I What'sApp'd (?) our girls and we shared loving memories of 'Mama', then lit the yarzheit candle and said Kaddish. Really wonderful.

Posted by: ibguy at April 15, 2019 10:53 PM (EHVbt)

186 San Franpsycho #122:
JWs can be very hostile and condescending to non believers...

More than once, when I'm feeling mellow and have nothing better to do, I have taken the time to talk with the JW proselytizers who come to the door.

They send out a senior and a junior, and the junior does the talking until he gets in trouble, then the senior picks up the sales pitch. I have fun talking Jesus and scripture to the junior, who is usually young and sincere and still seeking truth, then I suddenly have to go when the senior breaks in.

Did that once after moving to rural OK and apparently they thought I was a potential mark, because, a few weeks later, a fat old Cadillac pulls up to the house and four white-haired female Generals all get out, plainly ready to do battle for their faith, or convert me, or something.

Alas for my salvation, that day I was not in a mellow mood nor had the time to spare, and to all their insistent supplications, I just yelled at them to get off of my lawn (they had parked slightly off the driveway onto an area I'd been trying to get grass to grow back).

They all got back in the car, backed out the drive, and we've never been bothered by JWs again. (Well, once we were, but the senior was the daughter of a man who'd worked for my grandfather, so we had a nice chat about old stuff and they went away.)

I always get a copy of the pamphlets, though. "YOU CAN BE HAPPY THE WORLD WILL END SOON...!"

Posted by: mindful webworker evangelizing evangels a specialty at April 15, 2019 10:53 PM (ZOlfu)

187 Depression
Drinking
Debt
Death

Did I leave anything out?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 15, 2019 10:53 PM (l9m7l)

188 165 160 I understand that it's a one of a kind artistic masterpiece that will cost billions to faithfully restore. But it's certainly insured. And between that, and France being a 1st world nation-state that holds the paper on the place, just why exactly are they passing the hat?

It is NOT "insured". It's owned by the French Government - all Government's "self insure" which in practical fact means they never did shit to insure anything.

Well, then the French government should cut back on all their welfare programs to their rapefugees and use the money to rebuild Notre Dame.

Posted by: Martell at April 15, 2019 10:53 PM (N7J/1)

189 Do you guys think it's the start of a bunion, or gout, or arthritis, or something else?

how old are you?

50+, it's a bunion.

although don't discount gout, father has it off an on, it is not just bad diet, it's also a side effect of several popular maintenance drugs that doctor's don't tell you about.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 15, 2019 10:53 PM (V2Yro)

190 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 10:46 PM (5aX2M)

They spend all their money on that free health care.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette at April 15, 2019 10:53 PM (tcwZs)

191 Subway token Rashida, get down Rashida, get down.

Posted by: Sgt. Pepper at April 15, 2019 10:54 PM (Hwt6E)

192 Dogs were described as 'cleaner' than bearded men, a surprising study has shown
The study was trying to determine whether there was a risk of humans picking up a dog-borne disease from an MRI scanner also used for examinations by vets, the Mail On Sunday reports.
In examining the beards of 18 men and the necks of 30 dogs from a number of breeds, scientists found that even hounds had lower levels of microbes than the beards surveyed.

I can't stand these bullshit studies. Like the ones that say a quarter or a dollar bill is dirtier than a public toilet seat. Sure ... I'll be happy to lick a quarter or dollar bill that I just got in change somewhere if the people in those studies would go lick public toilet seats. I'll go even up with them until one gives in.

What a load of crap.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 15, 2019 10:54 PM (ASicf)

193 Help us before we dive hopelessly over the edge.

Our beloved Belgian sheepdog girl died at 14 three and a half years ago and we've been dogless since then.

We sought to maybe adopt but a trip to a couple shelters here in town turned us way off. Everything looked like a stray. All short-haired things, faces a mix of bull terrier, mastiff, bulldog, boxer. One worker said that fourteen had come in that day from San Juan, all of them strays from the streets.

Most all in the 60-plus pound size, some bigger. Our Belgian weighed 38 her whole long life.

Yuk.

But we came onto a litter whelped 6 weeks ago a short four hour drive from here, gorgeous border collies, from a pair each on the smaller side of the breed standard.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 15, 2019 10:54 PM (+fPHo)

194 Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at April 15, 2019 10:49 PM

Have you tried slapping hot iron to it?

Posted by: davidt at April 15, 2019 10:54 PM (+IOFD)

195 why do you think it is insured?

were it insured there would likely have been some requirement for sprinklers or something.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 10:49 PM (

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Well, I'd hope the government would self-insure like some big companies do, but even if not, I'm sure in the broke ass French can afford to fix even a very expensive single building. They should pay. And I'm to understand the Vatican has a bit of dough laying around as well.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 10:54 PM (5aX2M)

196 What Anna Puma said at 16.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at April 15, 2019 10:55 PM (ebZss)

197 so lately, usually at the endbof the day, I'll get a really painful burning sensation at the base of one of my big toes. Usually goes away after a few minutes.

My mom had bunions, but my feet still look straight imo.

No swelling or redness.

Do you guys think it's the start of a bunion, or gout, or arthritis, or something else?

I have flat feet ftr.

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at A

have you tried them behind your ears?

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 10:55 PM (MTjB1)

198
OK Hordelings, it's bedtime for Bonzo.

Y'all try to behave.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at April 15, 2019 10:55 PM (HaL55)

199 167 y5

I see folks are wondering about insurance and the tragic ND fire. Was discussing this today with a colleague, and our thinking was that the church (write large) was likely self-insured, but given that it was under reno, G-d help the poor contractor if one of his guys was responsible.

Posted by: ibguy at April 15, 2019 10:56 PM (EHVbt)

200 You know what's weird? Rashida Talib is actually MORE annoying than Ilan Omar.

Posted by: JoeF. at April 15, 2019 10:56 PM (o1fzk)

201 re the pain in the toe: do you w*rk on your feet or sitting down?

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2019 10:56 PM (ER1jH)

202 In examining the beards of 18 men and the necks of 30 dogs from a number of breeds, scientists found that even hounds had lower levels of microbes than the beards surveyed.

I can't stand these bullshit studies.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair

If those 18 guys were all named Brad, then yeah, bullshit.

Posted by: Miklos, statistically valid, also not named Justin at April 15, 2019 10:56 PM (zCyNd)

203 I can't stand these bullshit studies. Like the ones that say a quarter or a dollar bill is dirtier than a public toilet seat. Sure ... I'll be happy to lick a quarter or dollar bill that I just got in change somewhere if the people in those studies would go lick public toilet seats. I'll go even up with them until one gives in.

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Just don't lick the screen on the ordering kiosk at McDonalds. Studies show its loaded with fecal matter.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2019 10:56 PM (4knXT)

204

Arthritis, gout, tarsal tunnel, stress fracture, neuroma, idiopathic neuropathy, smoldering septic joint, osteonecrosis, foreign body, very ectopic pregnancy...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at April 15, 2019 10:56 PM (UFLLM)

205 >>>Refunds are all about how much did you send in during the year vs how
much you owe. I wish people would stop equating a refund with paying
less taxes.

I think most of the folks here at AOS are intelligent enough to know this.

Some folks didn't bother with changing their withholding this year - too much of a PITA to make guesstimates. But now they now know how to adjust the withholding.

We all know it's an interest free loan to the govt, but in reality, how much interest would you earn on that money? Next to nothing. A lot of folks I know look at it as a painless way to save up some money for a big ticket item that they would not have the discipline to save for any other way.

Posted by: cfo mom at April 15, 2019 10:57 PM (RfzVr)

206 getting in early and knocking down the fire and some of the church would be better than where they are now."

If you get into the construction of a medieval church like that, you will see why it was not possible to knock down the fire quickly - it was inaccessible. On all old buildings of that scale, either there are early warning and fire suppression systems in place ahead of time or with any fire in the wrong spot, the building will be lost. No way to save it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 15, 2019 10:57 PM (V2Yro)

207 So today is also the anniversary of the Boston Marathon bombing?

The Muzz do love them some anniversary violence..... was there any historically significant Islamic war or anything on this date?
Because that's kind of a weird coincidence.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette at April 15, 2019 10:42 PM (tcwZs)

******

One of the three women who tried to burn the cathedral in 2016 was sentenced today in French court.

I personally believe this was arson.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 15, 2019 10:57 PM (0tfLf)

208 "Dogs are actually cleaner than bearded men."

This is really about us, right you fucking infidel?

Posted by: Muslim Men at April 15, 2019 10:58 PM (o1fzk)

209 Arthritis, gout, tarsal tunnel, stress fracture, neuroma, idiopathic neuropathy, smoldering septic joint, osteonecrosis, foreign body, very ectopic pregnancy...
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at April 15, 2019 10:56 PM (UFLLM)

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Demonic possession?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2019 10:58 PM (4knXT)

210 have you tried them behind your ears?
Posted by: yankeefifth

Namaste.

You're supposed to say namaste.

Posted by: Miklos, doing the beer downing dog at April 15, 2019 10:58 PM (zCyNd)

211
Have you tried slapping hot iron to it?
Posted by: davidt at April 15, 2019 10:54 PM (+IOFD)

no, it's already a burning pain so that's redundant

01 re the pain in the toe: do you w*rk on your feet or sitting down?
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2019 10:56 PM (ER1jH)

pain is usually after being on my feet for a while

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at April 15, 2019 10:58 PM (dm05u)

212
Arthritis, gout, tarsal tunnel, stress fracture, neuroma, idiopathic neuropathy, smoldering septic joint, osteonecrosis, foreign body, very ectopic pregnancy...
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at April 15, 2019 10:56 PM (UFLLM)

An imbalance of bodily humors, possible caused by the ingestion of a gnome or a teeny basilisk.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at April 15, 2019 10:58 PM (PXJBj)

213 I love the euphemism "self-insured".

Self-insured == not insured

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 15, 2019 10:58 PM (ASicf)

214 "STRENGTH HAS NO GENDER"

From the Party of Science. Deconstruction of language continues.

In various languages, their word for "strength" does have gender. e.g. Spanish 'fureza' is feminine gender.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at April 15, 2019 10:59 PM (lD3vL)

215 dough laying around as well.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at A

you know, would be nice if you were right. since the catholic church is responsible for running the building my guess is it is their responsibility to rebuild.

guessing it is not going to happen. neither the church nor the french have the money. besides, how does a multi-ethnic, multi-religious country justify a billion dollars or many billions of dollars or euros to rebuild?

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 10:59 PM (MTjB1)

216 Demonic possession?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2019 10:58 PM (4knXT)

alien implant?

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at April 15, 2019 10:59 PM (dm05u)

217 HORDE MEDICAL ADVICE TIME

so lately, usually at the endbof the day, I'll get a really painful
burning sensation at the base of one of my big toes. Usually goes away
after a few minutes.

My mom had bunions, but my feet still look straight imo.

No swelling or redness.

Do you guys think it's the start of a bunion, or gout, or arthritis, or something else?

I have flat feet ftr.

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at April 15, 2019 10:49 PM (dm05u)

It is the dia-beetus. Better slap hot iron to it.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 15, 2019 10:59 PM (QLvwG)

218 When the authorities lose trust (as in..well..let's stick to France for now) as has happened, nobody believes them, and that's when suspicion and rumour become powerful.

Well, since I don't think the French government would admit it if they find evidence of arson, yeah.

Remember when the German police covered up the mass rapes on New Year's Eve a few years ago?

I read an article about the huge rape problem in Norway, which made it sound like the problem was entirely cased by drunken university students going a bit too far with other drunken university students on dates. Do the people who put out this true seriously think that anyone will believe this?

Posted by: The ARC of History at April 15, 2019 10:59 PM (I2/tG)

219 If it was self insured, who honestly thinks there's still money in that account?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 15, 2019 11:00 PM (PUmDY)

220 no one goes to europe to look at anything they have done in the last century.

Or more. Kids today think art is some fucking thing you get from feels or good weed. The truth is that a painter or a sculptor or a stone or wood carver was a trade that was taught and learned to a much higher degree, especially if the church was involved. The guys that worked on this stuff knew that what they were working on wouldn't be finished in their lifetime. They did it in service to God.

Posted by: dartist at April 15, 2019 11:00 PM (K22Va)

221 I still say construction accident... it was started in the roof, and that roof is all but on the moon; I can't see your average jihadi being that brave, and risking death on a Christian altar, but damn, so many suspicious things, it being Holy Week and the Boston bombing anniversary and all the previous desecration lately.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette at April 15, 2019 11:00 PM (tcwZs)

222 187 Depression
Drinking
Debt
Death

Did I leave anything out?
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 15, 2019 10:53 PM (l9m7l)

Drudgery.

Posted by: Insomniac - Founder, Farmer Liberation Front at April 15, 2019 11:00 PM (NWiLs)

223 206--I think that's why the concentrated on getting as many valuables out as possible. I think they knew there was no way to contain it. It had to burn down to the stone....

Posted by: JoeF. at April 15, 2019 11:00 PM (o1fzk)

224 no, it's already a burning pain so that's redundant

You are clearly unaware of homeopathic theory.

Posted by: Miklos, pushing another fraudulent cure-all at April 15, 2019 11:00 PM (zCyNd)

225 and is it the same toe/location/pain every time?

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2019 11:00 PM (ER1jH)

226 @222 - Good one! I'll add it

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 15, 2019 11:00 PM (l9m7l)

227 getting in early and knocking down the fire and some of the church would be better than where they are now."

If you get into the construction of a medieval church like that, you will see why it was not possible to knock down the fire quickly - it was inaccessible. On all old buildings of that scale, either there are early warning and fire suppression systems in place ahead of time or with any fire in the wrong spot, the building will be lost. No way to save it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at A

sure, but if the water was as forceful as many think then knocking the building down with water, or the section that was burning, would have been more desirable than burning the whole thing.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 11:01 PM (MTjB1)

228 Demonic possession?

Toe Bugger, a minor demon associated with service to Slaanesh, has been know to do this.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at April 15, 2019 11:02 PM (UFLLM)

229 not sure if the french knew this but when I played sim city I would save money by not having a fire department then demolishing buildings when they caught on fire.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 11:02 PM (MTjB1)

230 I love the euphemism "self-insured".

Self-insured == not insured
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 15, 2019 10:58 PM (ASicf)

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It may have changed since it was bought, but Coors at least used to be the insurer for its employees. And people there all said it was a great plan. I don't think it necessarily has to be a scam.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 11:02 PM (5aX2M)

231 221 I still say construction accident... it was started in the roof, and that roof is all but on the moon;

Never ascribe to malice what can be explained by stupidity - but don't rule malice out completely, either.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 15, 2019 11:02 PM (V2Yro)

232 I think maybe a witch is poking a mini me doll with a needle

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at April 15, 2019 11:02 PM (dm05u)

233 "In examining the beards of 18 men and the necks of 30 dogs from a number of breeds"

Well, DUH! My neck is cleaner than my beard, too! That's what the beard is FOR.
*smdh*

Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2019 11:02 PM (R1Qer)

234 Yeah, because importing millions of Muslims into England has worked out really well, right, Tony?

Posted by: The ARC of History at April 15, 2019 10:51 PM (I2/tG)

Doesn't the UK have a legacy problem though, in that any resident of a former part of their Empire has immigration rights? Lots of Pakis there, for example.

There were 39,818 knife crime offences in the 12 months ending September 2018. -- BBC

Not to mention the daily acid attacks. But Guns = Bad

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 15, 2019 11:02 PM (Z4rgH)

235 I think maybe a witch is poking a mini me doll with a needle

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at April 15, 2019 11:02 PM (dm05u)

Also a distinct possibility.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 15, 2019 11:03 PM (QLvwG)

236 Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at April 15, 2019 10:58 PM (dm05u)

Neuropathy? Although that is often accompanied by shooting pain or pins and needles sensation/ numbness.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette at April 15, 2019 11:03 PM (tcwZs)

237 Legalization of "medical marijuana" in Oklahoma continues to be a source of great amusement to me.

I found out this weekend that the cannabis stores sell "CBD herb" - pot which you smoke that doesn't get you high.

I don't know how much they charge for that "medical herb," but 'way back when they called it ditch weed and it went for about $10/oz.

Somehow preparing for the SHTF times, I never thought about stocking the pantry with alcohol-free beer and THC-free weed, caffeine-free coffee and soy jerky.

Oh, wait, I get it. This is what you have where the raiders will "discover" it and take it, leaving behind my secret stash of booze, hashish, dark roast, and bacon.

Posted by: mindful webworker has gunpowder-free ammunition for sale, too, at April 15, 2019 11:03 PM (ZOlfu)

238 "Self insured" typically refers to liability insurance, not casualty. Businesses that must carry liability insurance (e.g., bus lines) can avoid the requirement by carrying their own reserves. However, reserve amounts are tightly regulated and subject to audit by the state (at least in theory).

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2019 11:03 PM (4knXT)

239 Refunds are all about how much did you send in during the year vs how much you owe.

Not when you throw "tax credits" into the mix. Then you have welfare payments going through the income tax system.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 15, 2019 11:03 PM (ASicf)

240 Notre Dame, as property of the French State, was insured to same extent that the Pentagon was/is insured.

Posted by: Miklos, simplifying at April 15, 2019 11:04 PM (zCyNd)

241 225 and is it the same toe/location/pain every time?
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2019 11:00 PM (ER1jH)

yes, base of big toe - right at the bottom of where a bunion would be

my first assumption was bunion actually, but then I read that the bump usually comes first before pain, and the pain is from friction/compression
This pain is from inside definitely

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at April 15, 2019 11:05 PM (dm05u)

242 no one goes to europe to look at anything they have done in the last century.

That's not true. People visit the concentration camps and death camps.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 15, 2019 11:05 PM (ASicf)

243 221.
Sabotage?

Posted by: Martell at April 15, 2019 11:05 PM (N7J/1)

244 hanlon's razor

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 11:05 PM (MTjB1)

245 ...I always get a copy of the pamphlets, though. "YOU CAN BE HAPPY THE WORLD WILL END SOON...!"

Posted by: mindful webworker evangelizing evangels a specialty at April 15, 2019 10:53 PM (ZOlfu)

You're not supposed to brag about being in the Jehovah's Witness Protection Program!

... Do you guys think it's the start of a bunion, or gout, or arthritis, or something else?

I have flat feet ftr.

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at April 15, 2019 10:49 PM

Dunno, but next time that flares up, maybe call a toe truck?

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 15, 2019 11:06 PM (0Kh3z)

246 That's not true. People visit the concentration camps and death camps.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 15, 2019 11:05 PM (ASicf)

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Sad but true. Auschwitz is as fine a symbol of 20th century European civilization as anything.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2019 11:06 PM (4knXT)

247 They send out a senior and a junior, and the junior does the talking until he gets in trouble, then the senior picks up the sales pitch. I have fun talking Jesus and scripture to the junior, who is usually young and sincere and still seeking truth, then I suddenly have to go when the senior breaks in.

Then its even more fun. They want to push their Watchtower version of Scripture so I'll play along and get them agreeing on how difficult translations from not only one language to the next, but also from a culture millennia ago. Let them talk about it and play it up - I'll even encourage them by saying that the KJV, NIV and many modern English translations have errors and it seems that no one gets it exactly right, just not possible to fully express the meaning and intent of the passage. They agree, and are eager to push their [per]version.

Then I say, "So that is why I only study from the original Greek and Hebrew" where then I break out my leather bound Reader's edition and follow along with their stuff from the original, pointing out how their translation removes meaning, if not outright replacing words or deliberately misinterpreting key text.

Even the seniors give up.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at April 15, 2019 11:06 PM (lD3vL)

248

The Joo moon lander dropped on your toe and set it on fire on the inside.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at April 15, 2019 11:07 PM (UFLLM)

249 I don't think it necessarily has to be a scam.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 11:02 PM (5aX2M)

I'm not saying being uninsured is a scam. Insurance is always a bad bet - it has to be for the insurance business to make so much money. I just get a kick out of the "self-insured" euphemism. That's just saying that insurance is a rip-off and we will just pay any expenses incurred, since they will likely be less than the cost of insurance.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 15, 2019 11:07 PM (ASicf)

250 The ND fire may have been the result of something as simple as a carelessly tossed cigarette butt.

Posted by: davidt at April 15, 2019 11:07 PM (+IOFD)

251 Arthritis, gout, tarsal tunnel, stress fracture, neuroma, idiopathic neuropathy, smoldering septic joint, osteonecrosis, foreign body, very ectopic pregnancy...
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at April 15, 2019 10:56 PM (UFLLM)

Don't forget a strained prostrate. She could have that.

Posted by: BigZesty at April 15, 2019 11:07 PM (vlyfb)

252 Tony Blair in Washington, a couple of days ago:

"I think it would be tragic for the West and the world if we sort of close down and start erecting barriers between nations again because, frankly, it won't work for a start"

Screw you, Blair.

Posted by: Children of Rotherham at April 15, 2019 11:07 PM (+lVUW)

253 in that any resident of a former part of their Empire has immigration rights?

Uh, no. The Brits refused to let in Hong Kong Chinese when they handed Hong Kong back to China, and I recall that when half the island of Montserrat became uninhabitable due to a volcanic eruption, the Brits were quite pissy about letting residents of Monserrat emigrate to the UK (Montserrat is still a British colony).

It's not true that all residents of counties formerly in the British Empire have a free pass to emigrate to Britain.

Posted by: The ARC of History at April 15, 2019 11:07 PM (I2/tG)

254 Or a cigarette in a book of matches ala Stalag 17.

Posted by: davidt at April 15, 2019 11:08 PM (+IOFD)

255 Don't forget a strained prostrate. She could have that.
Posted by: BigZesty at April 15, 2019 11:07 PM (vlyfb)

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So true. You don't want to overwork your prostate.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2019 11:08 PM (4knXT)

256 I don't get all the talk about insurance. Insurance is fine for rebuilding a suburban tract house.

But an irreplaceable architectural masterpiece from the Middle Ages? Not so much.

Posted by: rickl at April 15, 2019 11:08 PM (sdi6R)

257 Dunno, but next time that flares up, maybe call a toe truck?

Jim

This man is ripe for pun-ishment.

Posted by: Miklos, hoping you found and original Mystery Date game in the stuff at April 15, 2019 11:09 PM (zCyNd)

258 So the beard study had 18 European males. That size study is worthless. Also, dirty Euros.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 15, 2019 11:09 PM (H5knJ)

259 Have you considered your shoes?
Round toe v pointy.
Also, are the soles hard leather or soft foam like a pair of Reebok tennis shoes?

If you are approaching 29 those consideration are all the more important.

Posted by: Sgt. Pepper at April 15, 2019 11:09 PM (Hwt6E)

260
"I think it would be tragic for the West and the world if we sort of close down and start erecting barriers between nations again because, frankly, it won't work for a start"

I love how they deliberately conflate friendly culturally compatible nations with subhuman savage nations that are completely incompatible and downright hostile.

Either these psychopaths get off on making obvious lies right to your face, or they really are retarded and depraved.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at April 15, 2019 11:10 PM (lD3vL)

261 >>>>So true. You don't want to overwork your prostate.

Bull shit!

Posted by: Mayor Butt Plug at April 15, 2019 11:10 PM (aA3+G)

262 Sounds to me like it was the space between the roof and the ceiling, for lack of a better word, that burned.

I can see where water dropped on a stone roof would not be very effective, let alone the fear of collapsing it and dropping infinite tons of stone on top of firefighters (and all the stuff) inside.
Judging by the picture everyone is talking about, (and y'all need to check it out, it is very moving) I don't think the inside of the cathedral will be as bad as I thought watching the videos, thank God.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette at April 15, 2019 11:10 PM (tcwZs)

263 Don't forget a strained prostrate. She could have that.
Posted by: BigZesty at April 15, 2019 11:07 PM (vlyfb)

So true. You don't want to overwork your prostate.
Posted by: Cicero

Yep.

Left me flat on my back.

Her too.

Posted by: Miklos, up and about now at April 15, 2019 11:10 PM (zCyNd)

264 I was thinking maybe Lloyd's of London.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 15, 2019 11:11 PM (PUmDY)

265 gorgeous border collies, from a pair each on the smaller side of the breed standard.

Our female border collie cake into heat for the first time and was determined to get laid. She broke out of the fence and got killed inthe road. So, we thought we'll just be dog-less until we retire to a less busy area. We lasted about a week. House was like a tomb with no dog in it. I made fence repairs, and we got a male blu Merle Border, then a couple years later a female black and white. Then, about six months later got a call from the breeder asking us if we could take the girls litter mate because she (the breeder) had breast cancer and thought she wasn't going to make it. Of course we said yes, and so now three Border Collies in town. It's madness, but they're all very well trained, you can let them out the front door and theyll lay down while you lock the door, then load up in turn when called. They get their sheep time at a local ranch.
I'll never be without a border collie again. That being said, two is easier than one (they entertain each other), but three is absolutely noteasier than two. And no litter mates. They're literally bitches to each other, they have to be kenneled at night or they'll drive you crazy facing off all night.
That's all I got to say about that.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at April 15, 2019 11:12 PM (r0n8U)

266 not sure if the french knew this but when I played sim city I would save
money by not having a fire department then demolishing buildings when
they caught on fire.
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I saved money by turning disasters off.

At least until I *wanted* whatever version of Godzilla was in the game to run around.

Posted by: Methos at April 15, 2019 11:12 PM (kOpft)

267 Posted by: rickl at April 15, 2019 11:08 PM (sdi6R)

This.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette at April 15, 2019 11:12 PM (tcwZs)

268 I love how they deliberately conflate friendly culturally compatible nations with subhuman savage nations that are completely incompatible and downright hostile.

Either these psychopaths get off on making obvious lies right to your face, or they really are retarded and depraved.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at April 15, 2019 11:10 PM (lD3vL)
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Embrace the power of and. No one is clamoring for a border wall with Canada - we're similar countries with similar values and a respect for law. The other border is a very different matter.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 11:12 PM (49vFo)

269 If you are approaching 29 those consideration are all the more important.
Posted by: Sgt. Pepper at April 15, 2019 11:09 PM (Hwt6E)

most of my shoes are very boring, wide toed, sneaker types precisely becamy mom had scary bunions and always wore heels

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at April 15, 2019 11:12 PM (dm05u)

270 Speaking of toe trucks.

If you carry flares in your kit bag - in case of a flat.
Carry fuse flares. Those pretty battery powered or reflector pairs receive no respect from other drivers.

Stick a line of fuse flares, by the book, behind your vehicle and other drivers will respect them.

Posted by: Sgt. Pepper at April 15, 2019 11:13 PM (Hwt6E)

271 So the beard study had 18 European males. That size study is worthless. Also, dirty Euros.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 15, 2019 11:09 PM (H5knJ)

They were Euros?

Oh. I take back my "bullshit" complaint.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 15, 2019 11:13 PM (ASicf)

272 The ND fire may have been the result of something as simple as a carelessly tossed cigarette butt.

Yeah sure, the building has existed through legions of smokers near and in the building, billions of candles, torches and God only knows what was used for lighting before electricity, neighboring fires, wars, storms, trial and tribulation for over eight hundred years, but for one careless cigarette butt...

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at April 15, 2019 11:13 PM (lD3vL)

273

Various gentlemen near the bus station may be willing to do a detailed foot exam.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at April 15, 2019 11:13 PM (UFLLM)

274 That's just saying that insurance is a rip-off and we will just pay any expenses incurred, since they will likely be less than the cost of insurance.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 15, 2019 11:07 PM (ASicf)

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Oh, sure. It's just saying that laying aside money in our own conservative investment funds is cheaper than buying into someone else's and also paying them to administer it.

I think the problem comes in when government does it, because if they're milking the insurance fund to pay for stupid crap while they skirt regulatory requirements, who's gonna bust em for it?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 11:13 PM (5aX2M)

275 Went to the Louvre when I was in the army and I could have walked up and touched the canvas of the Mona Lisa and every painting in the place. Now it's in a glass cage.

Posted by: dartist at April 15, 2019 11:15 PM (K22Va)

276 I wish I could afford cats. But I probably couldn't afford to keep them long.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 15, 2019 11:15 PM (l9m7l)

277 But she was super happy cuz she can now buy some stuff.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at April 15, 2019 10:09 PM (FiUMj)

My plan (if we can't immediately repeal the 16th Amendment):
- All taxes paid in cash/check/M.O. *on* tax day. No withholding.
- Tax day is moved to the Thursday before the first Tuesday (after the first Monday) in November.

It will cure that problem you note. In a hurry.

Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2019 11:15 PM (R1Qer)

278 nothing wrong with the beard study other than what it really suggest is that the women these guys are going down on have especially bad hygiene.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 11:15 PM (MTjB1)

279 Yeah sure, the building has existed through legions of smokers near and in the building, billions of candles, torches and God only knows what was used for lighting before electricity, neighboring fires, wars, storms, trial and tribulation for over eight hundred years, but for one careless cigarette butt...

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at April 15, 2019 11:13 PM (lD3vL)
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The dead zone between the interior ceiling and exterior roof is not usually occupied. Given the construction going on, it was probably (hopefully) a construction accident - electric short, hot equipment, whatever. I doubt a lit cigarette as if someone tossed a butt and it started smoldering, someone would go stomp it out.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 11:15 PM (49vFo)

280 149 138 I've read that France is starting an international fund raising effort tomorrow to rebuild the cathedral.

The Vatican allowing anyone to start a Gofundme to rebuild ND is rich. Not rich-rich like the Vatican but rich like the balls on these guys.

Posted by: mc at April 15, 2019 11:16 PM (l1TIo)

281 It's not true that all residents of counties formerly in the British Empire have a free pass to emigrate to Britain.

Posted by: The ARC of History at April 15, 2019 11:07 PM (I2/tG)

So then they have made a voluntary choice. That's orders of magnitude worse.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 15, 2019 11:16 PM (Z4rgH)

282 American title insurance companies insure tittle in Costa Rica. I never got that. I'm sure Cuba was a safe real estate investment.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 15, 2019 11:16 PM (PUmDY)

283 ok, thanks for the foot doctor___, peeps!
gonna sleep now

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at April 15, 2019 11:16 PM (dm05u)

284 nothing wrong with the beard study other than what it really suggest is that the women these guys are going down on have especially bad hygiene.
Posted by: yankeefifth

Pls respond ASAP

Posted by: Gillette marketing at April 15, 2019 11:17 PM (zCyNd)

285 My plan (if we can't immediately repeal the 16th Amendment):
- All taxes paid in cash/check/M.O. *on* tax day. No withholding.
- Tax day is moved to the Thursday before the first Tuesday (after the first Monday) in November.

It will cure that problem you note. In a hurry.
Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2019 11:15 PM (R1Qer)
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I have long advocated for this. No more withholding and tax day is a week before election day. Taxes would probably be 5% within a couple of years.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 11:17 PM (49vFo)

286 you know, not especially fond of the flying buttress.

not sure why so many seem very fond or what is essentially a bug not a feature.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 11:17 PM (MTjB1)

287

Morons, giving you a leg up when you need it.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at April 15, 2019 11:18 PM (UFLLM)

288 I wonder if they had insurance and what the amount of coverage was. Time to short that company's stock.

Posted by: mc at April 15, 2019 11:18 PM (l1TIo)

289 286 you know, not especially fond of the flying buttress.

not sure why so many seem very fond or what is essentially a bug not a feature.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 11:17 PM (MTjB1)

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Yep. Big steel cables criss-crossing the nave would have been really elegant.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2019 11:18 PM (4knXT)

290 was discussed earlier but has someone suggested straightening out the mess with the spires at chartes? since we are going to be doing cathedral construction?

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 11:18 PM (MTjB1)

291 you know, not especially fond of the flying buttress.

not sure why so many seem very fond or what is essentially a bug not a feature.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 11:17 PM (MTjB1)
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I don't love the way the look, but as a means to achieving massive scale in a time before modern materials and little more than giant versions of very simple machines to put it all together, they were a hell of an achievement.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 11:19 PM (49vFo)

292 in that any resident of a former part of their Empire has immigration rights?

Uh, no. The Brits refused to let in Hong Kong Chinese when they handed Hong Kong back to China, and I recall that when half the island of Montserrat became uninhabitable due to a volcanic eruption, the Brits were quite pissy about letting residents of Monserrat emigrate to the UK (Montserrat is still a British colony).

It's not true that all residents of counties formerly in the British Empire have a free pass to emigrate to Britain.
Posted by: The ARC of History

The difference being that those groups don't enjoy diddling little boys like the British upper crust.

Posted by: Jean at April 15, 2019 11:19 PM (25Dt7)

293

I love a good flying buttress.

Posted by: President Buttplug at April 15, 2019 11:19 PM (UFLLM)

294 not sure why so many seem very fond or what is essentially a bug not a feature.
Posted by: yankeefifth
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Because of the large span and mass of the roofs, the walls would bulge and collapse without them.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2019 11:19 PM (CDGwz)

295 252 Tony Blair in Washington, a couple of days ago:
"I think it would be tragic for the West and the world if we sort of close down and start erecting barriers between nations again because, frankly, it won't work for a start"
Posted by: Children of Rotherham at April 15, 2019 11:07 PM (+lVUW)

If it won't work, what's tragic about it?

Posted by: Splunge at April 15, 2019 11:19 PM (ed8K1)

296 trial and tribulation for over eight hundred years, but for one careless cigarette butt...

I've wondered that - if the building was flammable, you'd think that it would have burned down long before now.

The Japanese have a more practical approach - they have wooden temples, which they tear down and rebuild once every few decades. Wood is not a permanent building material.

Posted by: The ARC of History at April 15, 2019 11:20 PM (I2/tG)

297 I don't understand the mugshot article. The man in the mugshot is not the same man as in the security camera footage.

Posted by: Emmie at April 15, 2019 11:20 PM (4HMW8)

298 A lit cigarette laid on one of those big oak beams would burn itself out and leave nothing but a small char mark.

Posted by: Sgt. Pepper at April 15, 2019 11:20 PM (Hwt6E)

299 If it won't work, what's tragic about it?
Posted by: Splunge at April 15, 2019 11:19 PM (ed8K1)
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Hmph. Well, *someone* isn't thinking of the children!

Posted by: Toni "bear" Blair at April 15, 2019 11:20 PM (49vFo)

300 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 11:17 PM (49vFo)

Lot of people don't pay taxes, EIC comes to mind

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2019 11:20 PM (aA3+G)

301 The ND fire may have been the result of something as simple as a carelessly tossed cigarette butt.

Yeah sure, the building has existed through legions of smokers near and in the building, billions of candles, torches and God only knows what was used for lighting before electricity, neighboring fires, wars, storms, trial and tribulation for over eight hundred years, but for one careless cigarette butt...

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at April 15, 2019 11:13 PM (lD3vL)

Good grief.

How does anybody think they illuminated the place until about 100 years ago?

Posted by: Miklos, frustrated architechtural historian at April 15, 2019 11:21 PM (zCyNd)

302 A lit cigarette laid on one of those big oak beams would burn itself out and leave nothing but a small char mark.

Posted by: Sgt. Pepper at April 15, 2019 11:20 PM (Hwt6E)

I don't know ... Gitane is a pretty strong cigarette ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 15, 2019 11:21 PM (ASicf)

303 @56 Taxes done. Thank you PDT. Our taxes this year were half what they were last year even though our income increased a modest 2 percent.

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I thought I was going to be okay this year... right up until I discovered that I still had to pay the ACA penalty one last time.

I'm a bit pissed off about that.

Posted by: junior at April 15, 2019 11:21 PM (Fp6vo)

304 Why would they be working during Holy Week?

Posted by: Jean at April 15, 2019 11:21 PM (25Dt7)

305 not sure why so many seem very fond or what is essentially a bug not a feature.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 11:17 PM (MTjB1)

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Well they're not super efficient, but they are pretty. And in the ancient times you couldn't do a cathedral like ND without them, or you'd have to sacrifice the stained glass it's famous for.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 11:22 PM (5aX2M)

306 Good grief.

How does anybody think they illuminated the place until about 100 years ago?

Posted by: Miklos, frustrated architechtural historian at April 15, 2019 11:21 PM (zCyNd)

Jars of lightning bugs.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 15, 2019 11:22 PM (ASicf)

307 265.
One of our four dogs is an English setter. The lean hunting type. We guess she flunked hunting school in Georgia because she ended up (emaciated and with bb gun pellets embedded in her torso) in a rescue in North Florida. She is a champion climber. The regular chainlink fence that stood since the house was built was nothing to her. We've had to spend several thousands to replace it with a six foot tall chainlink fence.
Now we are filling in any spaces under the fence with large rocks because as it turns out she is also a champion digger.

Posted by: Martell at April 15, 2019 11:22 PM (N7J/1)

308 I don't love the way the look, but as a means to achieving massive scale
in a time before modern materials and little more than giant versions
of very simple machines to put it all together, they were a hell of an
achievement.

Didn't they use those to go taller than any other church? It was a competition that led to it.

Posted by: dartist at April 15, 2019 11:22 PM (K22Va)

309 Lot of people don't pay taxes, EIC comes to mind
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2019 11:20 PM (aA3+G)
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That's a whole 'nother problem. I get a lot of shocked expressions and hatred, but that particular problem is why I would support limiting the franchise to net taxpayers. If your taxes are net positive, you get to vote. If not, you don't. I don't care if it's a cent millions of dollars, but I do think it should be positive.

If you have a negative tax burden, you're voting for a living and that has too many obvious problems.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 11:23 PM (49vFo)

310 There is no way a cigarette butt did that.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 15, 2019 11:23 PM (PUmDY)

311 Because of the large span and mass of the roofs, the walls would bulge and collapse without them.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2019 11:19 PM

I wonder if Notre Dame's walls will collapse inward soon without the counter-thrust of the now-gone roof...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at April 15, 2019 11:23 PM (CLcKT)

312 How does anybody think they illuminated the place until about 100 years ago?

Phlogiston torches.

Posted by: President Buttplug at April 15, 2019 11:23 PM (UFLLM)

313 In the future, all men will only have access to a razor every third Saturday.

Posted by: Crusty Bernie at April 15, 2019 11:23 PM (LuPts)

314 I don't know ... Gitane is a pretty strong cigarette ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
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Gauloises. Basically sawdust.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2019 11:23 PM (xSo9G)

315 Lot of people don't pay taxes, EIC comes to mind
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

50% of people who file tax returns pay no federal income tax.

They file because of state requirements, or because they get money.

Again, that is 50% of those who file. The rest.....

Posted by: Miklos, not a CPA in your state at April 15, 2019 11:24 PM (zCyNd)

316 Didn't they use those to go taller than any other church? It was a competition that led to it.
Posted by: dartist at April 15, 2019 11:22 PM (K22Va)
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It was something like that. I don't remember if it was height or the scale of the roof or whatever. I'd have to go dust off my architecture books, and they're in storage. But the fly buttress was one of the greatest kludges ever conceived.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 11:24 PM (49vFo)

317 Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at April 15, 2019 11:13 PM (lD3vL)

You have to understand that the wooden frame of the building isnot where people generally congregate.

Now, I am absolutely not ruling out muzzies, but the fire started and burned in areas that people don't go....sort of like the attic, so to speak.
It would certainly be an excellent place to sneak into and start a fire,just saying that you can't say "oh, it has stood 800 years but suddenly a fire starts" when in fact in it started in an area that does not get worshippers or tons of tourists.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette at April 15, 2019 11:24 PM (tcwZs)

318 Unless NDC has a thatched roof.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 15, 2019 11:24 PM (PUmDY)

319 I wonder if Notre Dame's walls will collapse inward soon without the counter-thrust of the now-gone roof...
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto
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I assume that the buttresses went up before the roof was put on, so, should be okay?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2019 11:25 PM (xSo9G)

320 That's a whole 'nother problem. I get a lot of shocked expressions and hatred, but that particular problem is why I would support limiting the franchise to net taxpayers. If your taxes are net positive, you get to vote. If not, you don't. I don't care if it's a cent millions of dollars, but I do think it should be positive.

If you have a negative tax burden, you're voting for a living and that has too many obvious problems.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at A

would rather not start messing with votes, however, would love to make welfare, which that is, untouchable.

real men don't take welfare whether it is ebt or taxes.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 11:25 PM (MTjB1)

321 I remember seeing a documentary about some guy who builds glass cathedrals in the forests down south in the middle of nowhere. Interesting and very beautiful buildings.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 15, 2019 11:26 PM (ASicf)

322 276 I wish I could afford cats. But I probably couldn't afford to keep them long.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 15, 2019 11:15 PM (l9m7l)

We've got the purrfect kitteh arrangement: the neighbor's cats come visit us nearly every day. They greet us when we come home from work and we get to skritch their chins and the neighbors provide their food and pay the vet bills.

Posted by: Emmie at April 15, 2019 11:26 PM (4HMW8)

323 Shit, try and light a big oak post without some help. Bullshit.

Posted by: dartist at April 15, 2019 11:27 PM (K22Va)

324 296
I've wondered that - if the building was flammable, you'd think that it would have burned down long before now.
Posted by: The ARC of History at April 15, 2019 11:20 PM (I2/tG)

Being the tallest structure in the area, it must have been hit by lightning sometime in the last 800 years. Were they just lucky that it never caught fire?

Posted by: rickl at April 15, 2019 11:27 PM (sdi6R)

325 Didn't they use those to go taller than any other church? It was a competition that led to it.
Posted by: dartist at April 15, 2019 11:22 PM (K22Va)

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It's also about wall thickness. They could probably have built a place the size of ND without them, but you'd have to build walls of monster fortress thickness. That's very expensive, and makes features like beautiful fields of glittering colored glass impossible.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 11:27 PM (5aX2M)

326 Since it is the anniversary of the Tsarnaev brothers doing something, one of the interesting things that came out afterwards is that there are only about a thousand Chechens in the United States.

Seems that US Embassy Moscow did not view Chechens as good potential Americans, in part due to their propensity to violence, terrorism, blood feuds, etc. The embassy didn't think that importing Chechen culture to the United States was a good idea.

Too bad that we didn't have the same philosophy with Somalis.

Posted by: The ARC of History at April 15, 2019 11:27 PM (I2/tG)

327 A French billionaire, owner of Gucci, has pledged 100 million euros towards rebuilding Notre Dame

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 15, 2019 11:27 PM (+tqLK)

328 would rather not start messing with votes, however, would love to make welfare, which that is, untouchable.

real men don't take welfare whether it is ebt or taxes.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 11:25 PM (MTjB1)
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That would help. One of the great disservices done to this country by the Left has been the normalization of welfare. Being on the dole should be an unhappy and temporary experience, as it once was.

It has gotten to the point where you got the proposal from Chicago Public Schools a few years back. They wanted to make school lunches free for everyone so no one would know who got reduced-price or free lunches. I dig it that they're kids, but it's the same attitude of "welfare is cool, whatever."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 11:28 PM (49vFo)

329 I prefer ownership of real property as a voting requirement. Second to that a poll tax, and not a cheap one.

Posted by: Sgt. Pepper at April 15, 2019 11:28 PM (Hwt6E)

330 And the flying buttresses are still there.
Absolute best view of the cathedral ( well, my own favorite!) is from the west bank, or coming straight down the Seine from Ile Saint Louis where you can see them.
I personally do not care for the overall entrance of the cathedral, it is kind of stark. And the rats are rather off putting, you do NOT want to be there come dusk.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette at April 15, 2019 11:28 PM (tcwZs)

331 Gauloises. Basically sawdust.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

Ze cigareette, is like sawdust. Le Boche!

*bats eyelashes*

You have nylons, chocolat?

Americain, no?

Posted by: 1944, a cafe somewhere is France at April 15, 2019 11:29 PM (zCyNd)

332 A French billionaire, owner of Gucci, has pledged 100 million euros towards rebuilding Notre Dame
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 15, 2019 11:27 PM (+tqLK)
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Dayum. That'll make a dent.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 11:29 PM (49vFo)

333 Welding is a leading cause of fires during construction and structural maintenance. Workmen aren't aware of the problem until is started because everyone is looking away, it smells like somethings burning anyway and the welder can see anything but his work.

Posted by: pawn at April 15, 2019 11:29 PM (dPTGY)

334 Being the tallest structure in the area, it must have been hit by lightning sometime in the last 800 years. Were they just lucky that it never caught fire?
Posted by: rickl at April 15, 2019 11:27 PM (sdi6R)

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I'll bet back then there weren't strategically-placed caches of flammable material and igniters scattered about.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2019 11:29 PM (4knXT)

335 Try and start a fire with a cigarette and no accelerant.

Posted by: Sgt. Pepper at April 15, 2019 11:30 PM (Hwt6E)

336 I prefer ownership of real property as a voting requirement. Second to that a poll tax, and not a cheap one.

Posted by: Sgt. Pepper

And, 21yo

Posted by: Jean at April 15, 2019 11:30 PM (25Dt7)

337 Gucci's not Italian? Was it sold?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 15, 2019 11:30 PM (PUmDY)

338 Lot of people don't pay taxes, EIC comes to mind

Divestity is our strength!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 15, 2019 11:30 PM (x/kcP)

339 Try and start a fire with a cigarette and no accelerant.
Posted by: Sgt. Pepper at April 15, 2019 11:30 PM (Hwt6E)
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Depends on what you're trying to burn. Dry grass? Sure, that can work (and does, too often). A millennium-old hardwood beam? Probably not.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 11:31 PM (49vFo)

340 356 Hmmm, has there ever been a Stanley Cup Playoffs where both #1 seeds were trounced in the first round?

Holy shit, short-handed goal by Avs.

4-0 Colorado.

Posted by: logprof at April 15, 2019 11:31 PM (XAYDB)

341 those fucking Israelis better take it easy on the moon. went out there the night of their crash and one third of the fucking moon was missing.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 10:25 PM (MTjB1)

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9T9etR_kS4Y

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 15, 2019 11:31 PM (t5m5e)

342 if Notre Dame's walls will collapse inward soon without the counter-thrust of the now-gone roof...
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto

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The roof is gone, but the stone vault is still intact, except for where the spire went through it. That ought to offset the buttressed.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 15, 2019 11:31 PM (+tqLK)

343 Jars of lightning bugs.

It used to be ok for my buddy to bring his two boys to the bar to play pinball games. They got bored and we went out to catch lightning bugs and brought them in to let go in the bar.

Posted by: dartist at April 15, 2019 11:32 PM (K22Va)

344 Another homer by Arenado! And the Rocks not only have a lead, they're maintaining it! I sure hope this means the Rocks are done sucking for a while.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 11:32 PM (49vFo)

345 LEFT bank, my GOD, fucking autocuke is making me sick. How does that happen???

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette at April 15, 2019 11:33 PM (tcwZs)

346

My theory is that a very fat Muslim immigrant laborer was working off the books after hours in the roof area and accidentally stumbled on a Joo surveillance intel op who were spying on the Swedish bikini team and they had to snuff him. Unfortunately, they tied him up and stuffed him full of time pencil incendiaries, not anticipating that they would accidentally ignite his loathsome adipose overload, and his burning lard load set the cathedral on fire...

Posted by: President Buttplug at April 15, 2019 11:33 PM (UFLLM)

347 Dayum. That'll make a dent.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

I see full employment for certain underemployed sections of French society.

Posted by: Miklos, thinking France already has canals at April 15, 2019 11:33 PM (zCyNd)

348 326 Since it is the anniversary of the Tsarnaev brothers doing something, one of the interesting things that came out afterwards is that there are only about a thousand Chechens in the United States.

Seems that US Embassy Moscow did not view Chechens as good potential Americans, in part due to their propensity to violence, terrorism, blood feuds, etc. The embassy didn't think that importing Chechen culture to the United States was a good idea.

Too bad that we didn't have the same philosophy with Somalis.
Posted by: The ARC of History at April 15, 2019 11:27 PM (I2/tG

--Russian intelligence even warned us, "Yo, those muthafuckas are bad news."

Posted by: logprof at April 15, 2019 11:33 PM (XAYDB)

349 The aerospace company behind Israel's failed first moonshot said on Saturday it would pursue a second mission with funds raised from private donors and the public.

Repeating the same action and expecting different results is lunacy.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 15, 2019 11:33 PM (x/kcP)

350 345 LEFT bank, my GOD, fucking autocuke is making me sick. How does that happen???
Posted by: Red-headed 'ette at April 15, 2019 11:33 PM (tcwZs)

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Rive Goucho?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2019 11:34 PM (4knXT)

351 The roof is gone, but the stone vault is still
intact, except for where the spire went through it. That ought to offset
the buttressed.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 15, 2019 11:31 PM

Good point!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at April 15, 2019 11:34 PM (CLcKT)

352
What's all this about Butt Weld running for Presnint?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 15, 2019 11:34 PM (pNxlR)

353 Damn, Ovechkin clocked that Hurricane player.

Posted by: logprof at April 15, 2019 11:34 PM (XAYDB)

354 Repeating the same action and expecting different results is lunacy.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 15, 2019 11:33 PM (x/kcP)
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Depends on the failure. If it was a design or engineering flaw then yeah, dumb. If it was an odd material failure of some kind, then maybe not. I don't know what happened, but sometimes "try again" is a reasonable conclusion. Failure mode matters a lot.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 11:35 PM (49vFo)

355 if Notre Dame's walls will collapse inward soon without the counter-thrust of the now-gone roof...
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto

If so, not because of that.

If it comes down, it will be the same way it went up.

Most of the walls existed for century before the roof went on.

Posted by: Miklos, sad former and current medievalist at April 15, 2019 11:36 PM (zCyNd)

356 >>>Depends on what you're trying to burn. Dry grass? Sure, that can work (and does, too often). A millennium-old hardwood beam? Probably not.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 11:31 PM (49vFo)
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Correct
but

Take the family out to the woods for a picnic and discover you have no fire. Your assignment, and you have no option, is to get the grill up and burning.

You are given one lit cigarette with which to achieve this goal.

Posted by: Sgt. Pepper at April 15, 2019 11:37 PM (Hwt6E)

357 Has arson been ruled out for Notre Dame de Paris?

Posted by: logprof at April 15, 2019 11:37 PM (XAYDB)

358 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 11:35 PM (49vFo)

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Or an addressable design flaw. Sometimes, something breaks and you look at it and say "Fuck. It was a $50 part."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 11:37 PM (5aX2M)

359 Notre Dame is not Destroyed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6JYLEQdeVo

Metaphor alert.

The next video in the cue is "Ben Shapiro DESTROYS Notre Dame"

Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 15, 2019 11:37 PM (rnAwa)

360 239 Refunds are all about how much did you send in during the year vs how much you owe.

Not when you throw "tax credits" into the mix. Then you have welfare payments going through the income tax system.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair

Yup. There are people who get more back than they had withheld. On Judge Judy, a lot of the people borrow money from friends and relatives and tell them they will pay them back when they get their "tax refund". Then of course, they don't pay the money back because the borrowers are the kind of people who, if they get $1000 in their hands, run out and squander it on something stupid.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 15, 2019 11:37 PM (+lVUW)

361 >>>Welding is a leading cause of fires during construction and structural
maintenance. Workmen aren't aware of the problem until is started
because everyone is looking away, it smells like somethings burning
anyway and the welder can see anything but his work.<<<

Hot work permits and fire watch programs are difficult safety work conceptualizations and will lead to bumbling, mumbling and fires.

Posted by: Crusty Bernie at April 15, 2019 11:38 PM (LuPts)

362 Lunacy....lunar....etymology.....eh, if you have to explain it, it wasn't funny,

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 15, 2019 11:38 PM (x/kcP)

363 A 100 million euros? What's that in real money?

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 15, 2019 11:38 PM (QLvwG)

364 357 Has arson been ruled out for Notre Dame de Paris?
Posted by: logprof at April 15, 2019 11:37 PM (XAYDB)

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Yes. Last week.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2019 11:38 PM (4knXT)

365 349 The aerospace company behind Israel's failed first moonshot said on Saturday it would pursue a second mission with funds raised from private donors and the public.

Repeating the same action and expecting different results is lunacy.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 15, 2019 11:33 PM (x/kcP)

I would assume they will try to figure out what went wrong and make improvements accordingly to prevent a recurrence.

See also my #76.

Posted by: rickl at April 15, 2019 11:38 PM (sdi6R)

366 Take the family out to the woods for a picnic and discover you have no fire. Your assignment, and you have no option, is to get the grill up and burning.

You are given one lit cigarette with which to achieve this goal.
Posted by: Sgt. Pepper at April 15, 2019 11:37 PM (Hwt6E)
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Yes, exceedingly unlikely that I will start the fire. If it's dry enough and there's a breeze, though, I could conceivably set the forest on fire and cook away.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 11:38 PM (49vFo)

367 >>>I thought I was going to be okay this year... right up until I
discovered that I still had to pay the ACA penalty one last time.

I thought the question about having health insurance to be vague enough that I felt I was within my rights to say I did have health insurance. I was self-insured, just like a corporation.

Posted by: cfo mom at April 15, 2019 11:38 PM (RfzVr)

368 Repeating the same action and expecting different results is lunacy.

Welcome to space exploration.

You try, you fail, you figure out what you did wrong, and you try again, until you get it right.

The amazing thing is that the Israelis did this for $100 million - imagine how much it would have cost NASA.

Posted by: The ARC of History at April 15, 2019 11:39 PM (I2/tG)

369 And by "something" stupid, I mean, they'll spend $1000 on wheel covers for their car. That actually happened.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 15, 2019 11:39 PM (+lVUW)

370 Then of course, they don't pay the money back
because the borrowers are the kind of people who, if they get $1000 in
their hands, run out and squander it on something stupid.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 15, 2019 11:37 PM (+lVUW)

You just don't understand. I NEEDED those shoes / nails / tattoos!

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 15, 2019 11:39 PM (QLvwG)

371 Good Night Irene is a great song.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 15, 2019 11:39 PM (PUmDY)

372 $50 dollar parts are required to do thousands of dollars of damage when they fail. It's in the Murphy rulebook somewhere.

Posted by: pawn at April 15, 2019 11:40 PM (dPTGY)

373 The overhead pictures show the roof collapsed but it fell onto the vault. The vault is the stone ceiling. The interior looks to be largely intact. I don't know what a fire will do to stone and mortar, but I think the damage looks worse than it actually is.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 15, 2019 11:40 PM (d9PEL)

374

Our administration will blow you away!

Posted by: Swallowswell/Buttplug 2020 at April 15, 2019 11:40 PM (UFLLM)

375 You are given one lit cigarette with which to achieve this goal.

How long is the cigarette?

Posted by: dartist at April 15, 2019 11:41 PM (K22Va)

376 The amazing thing is that the Israelis did this for $100 million - imagine how much it would have cost NASA.
Posted by: The ARC of History

NASA pays retail.

Posted by: Shlomo Miklos, Wholesale Space Discount Warehouse at April 15, 2019 11:41 PM (zCyNd)

377 $50 dollar parts are required to do thousands of dollars of damage when they fail. It's in the Murphy rulebook somewhere.

Posted by: pawn at April 15, 2019 11:40 PM (dPTGY)

Dang neared kilt us!

Posted by: Apollo 13 crew at April 15, 2019 11:41 PM (QLvwG)

378 Vault, that's the word I was looking for. I gather that although the roof is gone, there are very little areas where you could actually look up and see stars, because the vault held.

I have been envisioning it burned all the way down from the bell towers to the buttresses, but in fact the interior remains largely intact.
And neither the rose windows nor the spire were all that old. though they were surely magnificent.
Imagine being a peasant in the old days, and walking in to such majesty....

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette at April 15, 2019 11:41 PM (tcwZs)

379 Meant walk away Renee. What I said made no sense.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 15, 2019 11:41 PM (PUmDY)

380 5-1 Avs

Posted by: logprof at April 15, 2019 11:41 PM (XAYDB)

381 --Russian intelligence even warned us, "Yo, those muthafuckas are bad news."

Russian intelligence has been known to take dead Chechen terrorists, sew them into pigskin shrouds, and then videotape the burial, so they can use the dead terrorists as an example.

Russians don't fuck around.

Posted by: The ARC of History at April 15, 2019 11:42 PM (I2/tG)

382 $50 dollar parts are required to do thousands of dollars of damage when they fail. It's in the Murphy rulebook somewhere.
Posted by: pawn

And in our Business Model.

Posted by: Harbor Freight at April 15, 2019 11:42 PM (zCyNd)

383 373 The overhead pictures show the roof collapsed but it fell onto the vault. The vault is the stone ceiling. The interior looks to be largely intact. I don't know what a fire will do to stone and mortar, but I think the damage looks worse than it actually is.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 15, 2019 11:40 PM (d9PEL)

Somebody said earlier that a fire will weaken stone and mortar. It may not have as much structural integrity as it did before.

Posted by: rickl at April 15, 2019 11:42 PM (sdi6R)

384 353
Damn, Ovechkin clocked that Hurricane player.

Posted by: logprof

And then the Hurricane's clocked the Caps, 5-0.

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 15, 2019 11:42 PM (HCqAo)

385 The amazing thing is that the Israelis did this for $100 million - imagine how much it would have cost NASA.

$100 million and 100 years of work by many others.

Posted by: Swallowswell/Buttplug 2020 at April 15, 2019 11:42 PM (UFLLM)

386 Correct
but

Take the family out to the woods for a picnic and discover you have no fire. Your assignment, and you have no option, is to get the grill up and burning.

You are given one lit cigarette with which to achieve this goal.
Posted by: Sgt. Pepper at April 15, 2019 11:37 PM (Hwt6E)

In the US,at least, cigs now go out on their own if not puffed on. Before they started that, you could start a fire with a cig. Look at how many houses burned down because someone fell asleep smoking.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at April 15, 2019 11:43 PM (Rz2Nc)

387 376 Shlomo

ISWYDT

/golf clap

Posted by: ibguy at April 15, 2019 11:43 PM (EHVbt)

388 Somebody said earlier that a fire will weaken stone and mortar. It may not have as much structural integrity as it did before.
Posted by: rickl at April 15, 2019 11:42 PM (sdi6R)

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Medieval sappers would be raising chickens if it didn't.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2019 11:43 PM (4knXT)

389
The University of the Arts must sit down with a group of transgenders students and survivors of sexual assault to discuss how they can best be supported moving forward.

Tell them, "Grow up, suck it up, and get a meaningful job."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 15, 2019 11:44 PM (pNxlR)

390 The amazing thing is that the Israelis did this for $100 million - imagine how much it would have cost NASA.

It's difficult to explain how they got such a good deal on everything.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 15, 2019 11:44 PM (x/kcP)

391 How long is the cigarette?
Posted by: dartist

If longer than my moustache, it's ON.

Posted by: John, centimetre, ou commes les Anglais? at April 15, 2019 11:44 PM (zCyNd)

392 100 million euros? What's that in real money?
Posted by: Count de Monet at April 15, 2019 11:38 PM (QLvwG)
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What is real money? Here are some equivalencies:
* About 113 million G-d-fearing US Dollars
* About 151 million Iceback Dollars
* About 2.75 tons of gold
* About 3,400 rail cars full of oil
* About 91,000 shares of Google

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 11:45 PM (49vFo)

393 $100 million and 100 years of work by many others.

Of course. But how much would it cost NASA today to do a mission like that, with all that accumulated experience?

Posted by: The ARC of History at April 15, 2019 11:45 PM (I2/tG)

394 Those old Cathedrals in Europe are in a constant state of repair. I doubt terrorism. More than likely an accident while repairing something. It's not hard to do in an almost 900 year old building.

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 15, 2019 11:45 PM (HCqAo)

395 NASA pays retail.

Posted by: Shlomo Miklos, Wholesale Space Discount Warehouse at April 15, 2019 11:41 PM

So... Not just assholes and Irish, anymore?

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at April 15, 2019 11:45 PM (CLcKT)

396 And sadly, I will have to take back all the snide comments I made about the French firefighters.
Well,most of them anyway.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette at April 15, 2019 11:46 PM (tcwZs)

397 Of course. But how much would it cost NASA today to do a mission like that, with all that accumulated experience?

With or without Muslim outreach?

Posted by: Swallowswell/Buttplug 2020 at April 15, 2019 11:46 PM (UFLLM)

398 It's a small matter of honor among my friends, when camping, to start the campfire with a single match. This leads to a very careful laying of the starting material,
and follow-on material to be fed.

One guy used the match to light the candle in his candle lantern, then used the candle to light the fire. A flag was thrown, and a technical foul called.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2019 11:46 PM (CDGwz)

399 Hey everybody.

Well, good news: I guess the squeaky wheel does get the grease, even if it's not directed at the wheel directly.

The person I wanted to hear from last night? She got back to me this morning, and basically said if I want to come out to see her in Arkansas, come in late October.

Sounds good to me. I hope it's not too cold there during that time of year.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 15, 2019 11:46 PM (miE9U)

400 BourbonChicken: Notre Dame is not Destroyed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6JYLEQdeVo

Thanks for that.

Posted by: mindful webworker has gunpowder-free ammunition for sale, too, at April 15, 2019 11:46 PM (ZOlfu)

401 You can start a fire with a cig but you have to have a bit of skilz. Flick it most anywhere and nothing will happen.

Posted by: dartist at April 15, 2019 11:46 PM (K22Va)

402 Pall Mall 100 non filter

Posted by: Sgt. Pepper at April 15, 2019 11:46 PM (Hwt6E)

403 Somebody said earlier that a fire will weaken stone and mortar. It may not have as much structural integrity as it did before.

Posted by: rickl at April 15, 2019 11:42 PM (sdi6R)

Let's check with expert structural engineer Rosie O'Donnell for a forensic assessment

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 15, 2019 11:47 PM (QLvwG)

404 Of course. But how much would it cost NASA today to do a mission like that, with all that accumulated experience?
Posted by: The ARC of History at April 15, 2019 11:45 PM (I2/tG)

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All the add-on muslim outreach costs really run up the old price tag at NASA.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2019 11:47 PM (4knXT)

405 Hey everybody.

Well, good news: I guess the squeaky wheel does get the grease, even if it's not directed at the wheel directly.

The person I wanted to hear from last night? She got back to me this morning, and basically said if I want to come out to see her in Arkansas, come in late October.

Posted by: qdpsteve at A

why

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 11:47 PM (MTjB1)

406 Also, I would really like to learn the following chef's secret: how to make savory foods taste sweeter, without using straight sugar.

I assume they use things like herbs, sweet garlic, juices and wine...

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 15, 2019 11:47 PM (miE9U)

407 A cigarette butt wouldn't do much damage to a wooden pew.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 15, 2019 11:47 PM (PUmDY)

408 y5, why ask why? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 15, 2019 11:48 PM (miE9U)

409 With or without Muslim outreach?

Don't forget all the lawyers, EEO compliance officers, OPM personnel regulations, and everything else!

It's a jobs program!

Posted by: NASA at April 15, 2019 11:48 PM (I2/tG)

410 You are given one lit cigarette with which to achieve this goal.

How long is the cigarette?

What was the cig lit with? Why wasn't that used to start the fire?

Posted by: mindful webworker flicks Bic at April 15, 2019 11:48 PM (ZOlfu)

411 Of course. But how much would it cost NASA today to do a mission like that, with all that accumulated experience?
Posted by: The ARC of History at April 15, 2019 11:45 PM (I2/tG)

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Can't say, but the answer is "more." Parkinson's Law. Give two organizations the same objective. If they're both capable of achieving it, the smaller one will do it cheaper.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 11:48 PM (5aX2M)

412 381 --Russian intelligence even warned us, "Yo, those muthafuckas are bad news."

Russian intelligence has been known to take dead Chechen terrorists, sew them into pigskin shrouds, and then videotape the burial, so they can use the dead terrorists as an example.

Russians don't fuck around.
Posted by: The ARC of History at April 15, 2019 11:42 PM (I2/tG)

--I remember as a kid in the '80s when so many hijackings and attacks against Americans and Israelis were going on asking my mother, "How come the Arab terrorists never attack the commies?"

She said, paraphrasing, "The Soviets would wipe Tehran and Mecca off the face of the earth if they did."

Posted by: logprof at April 15, 2019 11:48 PM (XAYDB)

413 But how much would it cost NASA today to do a mission like that, with all that accumulated experience?
Posted by: The ARC of History

Cost plus.

And Alabama senators ain't cheap.

Posted by: Miklos, happy proto-contractor at April 15, 2019 11:48 PM (zCyNd)

414 The amazing thing is that the Israelis did this for $100 million - imagine how much it would have cost NASA.

It's difficult to explain how they got such a good deal on everything.

Ebay and Amazon.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at April 15, 2019 11:48 PM (0bu2O)

415 Of course. But how much would it cost NASA today to do a mission like that, with all that accumulated experience?

$10937.69, a third round draft pick to be named later, and an autographed picture of the original Star Trek cast except for taki, 'cause he's a dick.

Posted by: M K Ultra at April 15, 2019 11:49 PM (UFLLM)

416 A cigarette butt wouldn't do much damage to a wooden pew.

Don't say that to a woodpecker.

Posted by: dartist at April 15, 2019 11:50 PM (K22Va)

417 David Horowitz is no fan of Mayor Pete:

http://tinyurl.com/y3rs4ue7

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 15, 2019 11:51 PM (FSPNP)

418 Posted by: qdpsteve at April 15, 2019 11:46 PM (miE9U)

Best time of year to go, and not too cold, though God knows what your CA ass considers cold!

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette at April 15, 2019 11:51 PM (tcwZs)

419 $50 dollar parts are required to do thousands of dollars of damage when they fail. It's in the Murphy rulebook somewhere.
Posted by: pawn

And in our Business Model.
Posted by: Harbor Freight
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Old EE adage: If a fuse is so placed as to protect a transistor, the transistor will blow to protect the fuse.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2019 11:51 PM (CDGwz)

420 Take the family out to the woods for a picnic and discover you have no fire. Your assignment, and you have no option, is to get the grill up and burning.

You are given one lit cigarette with which to achieve this goal.

Posted by: Sgt. Pepper at April 15, 2019 11:37 PM (Hwt6E)

Your kid has a full head of hair? You're good to go.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 15, 2019 11:51 PM (ASicf)

421 332 -- There was a segment of 60 Minutes a couple years back about how the owners of big name brand Italian businesses were digging deep into their own pockets to support restoration and excavation on ancient Roman ruins. It's all private money paying for the work on the Colliseum The Gucci owner may be taking the giving idea a step further. If so, I am grateful. It won't be done in my life time, but that gift means restoration of an icon of Western Civilization. Maybe my grandkids will be able to look at a fully restored Notre Dame Cathedral and marvel at how a low tech population managed to create such soaring beauty.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at April 15, 2019 11:51 PM (ebZss)

422 Good evening,

I am sad that one of the monuments to the grandeur of God is now a burned out husk. I don't know who is responsible but I do know two groups who are trying to destroy Judeo-Christian culture: Muslims and lefties. They have declared themselves to be my enemy, so be it. May I have wisdom and skill to beat them at their own "game" when necessary.

Re the FBI: can we now start a serious movement to abolish them?

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 15, 2019 11:52 PM (IDhUW)

423 Headline at HotAir:

"No, really, why did Lori Loughlin plead not guilty?"

- Because she doesn't think she did anything wrong?

- Because she thinks the Feds are bluffing about how great a case they have against her?

- Because she's just another spoiled rotten hyper entitled Hollywood beeyotch who thinks she'll skate because on her wealth and celebrity

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 15, 2019 11:52 PM (miE9U)

424 Ebay and Amazon.
Posted by: Blanco Basura
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Tel Aviv Craig's List

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2019 11:52 PM (CDGwz)

425 Also, I would really like to learn the following chef's secret: how to make savory foods taste sweeter, without using straight sugar.

I assume they use things like herbs, sweet garlic, juices and wine...
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 15, 2019 11:47 PM (miE9U)

Posted by: Average Guy at April 15, 2019 11:53 PM (LMcFk)

426 I don't recall the Russians doing much avenging of the more recent terror attacks (the school and the theater), though, unless the kept it really quiet.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette at April 15, 2019 11:53 PM (tcwZs)

427 Hey everybody.

Well, good news: I guess the squeaky wheel does get the grease, even if it's not directed at the wheel directly.

The person I wanted to hear from last night? She got back to me this morning, and basically said if I want to come out to see her in Arkansas, come in late October.

Sounds good to me. I hope it's not too cold there during that time of year.
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 15, 2019 11:46 PM (miE9U)

That's wonderful! I'm not sure Arkansas is ever really cold.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at April 15, 2019 11:53 PM (Rz2Nc)

428 Headline at HotAir:

"No, really, why did Lori Loughlin plead not guilty?"

- Because she doesn't think she did anything wrong?

- Because she thinks the Feds are bluffing about how great a case they have against her?

- Because she's just another spoiled rotten hyper entitled Hollywood beeyotch who thinks she'll skate because on her wealth and celebrity
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 15, 2019 11:52 PM (miE9U)
+++++++++
- She has the towering entitlement and arrogance that typifies the Hollywood cultural "elite?"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 11:53 PM (49vFo)

429 That Adam Corolla comment is pretty much my understanding of America.

Too bad the Leftists disagree.

Hence the Omar wing of the Democrat Party.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 15, 2019 11:53 PM (px/q2)

430 >>>The amazing thing is that the Israelis did this for $100 million - imagine how much it would have cost NASA.
>>>Posted by: The ARC of History

NASA pays retail.

Posted by: Shlomo Miklos, Wholesale Space Discount Warehouse at April 15, 2019 11:41 PM (zCyNd)

LOL.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 15, 2019 11:53 PM (ASicf)

431 qdpsteve #405:
if I want to come out to see her in Arkansas, come in late October.

Milady says it was a good thing she first arrived in Oklahoma in early October. Perfect fall weather. She's seen all the rest of the seasons, including hail and tornado, drought and weeks of unrelenting heat... and stayed. But, special affection for that time of year here.

Posted by: mindful webworker ruins everything at April 15, 2019 11:53 PM (ZOlfu)

432 Red-headed, I admit I'm spoiled about the cold.

Just a few months ago, we were having early morning and late evening temps down to the low 50s and mid-40s. I thought I was gonna die. :-P

(Go ahead and laugh at me, MisHum)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 15, 2019 11:54 PM (miE9U)

433 She said, paraphrasing, "The Soviets would wipe Tehran and Mecca off the face of the earth if they did."
Posted by: logprof at April 15, 2019 11

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I can't remember where it was, but I think it was Tehran... some Koranimals slipped their leads and decided to kill a Soviet diplomat. Moscow instructed the KGB field office to make it right, and hideously disfigured corpses of conspirators started turning up in public places within days. Problem didn't come up again.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 11:54 PM (5aX2M)

434 Arkansas in October, best time of year for a nice walk in the woods.

Posted by: Sgt. Pepper at April 15, 2019 11:54 PM (Hwt6E)

435 All those years in cub scouts and boy scouts making fire starters out of old newspapers and wax, lugging them around for years to every outdoor event with a fire. All we needed to have done was collect dryer lint. Lightweight, compressible, and very flammable. Available in homes everywhere by the Hefty Sak load.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 15, 2019 11:54 PM (QLvwG)

436 you know, if she has a good lawyer she should fight the charges. how is what she did different than everything else that lots of parents do to get their kids into school?

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 11:54 PM (MTjB1)

437 marvel at how a low tech population managed to create such soaring beauty.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at April 15, 2019 11:51 PM (ebZss)

You may need to reconsider your definition of "low tech".

Posted by: Miklos, the tallest building in Great Zimbabwe was two stories at April 15, 2019 11:54 PM (zCyNd)

438 Off to bed. No more letting the ONT keep me from something I should have done at least an hour ago.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at April 15, 2019 11:55 PM (ebZss)

439 Evasive and mindful, thanks!
Sounds like a good time to go then.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 15, 2019 11:55 PM (miE9U)

440 The Gucci owner may be taking the giving idea a step further. If so, I am grateful. It won't be done in my life time, but that gift means restoration of an icon of Western Civilization

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It might not take as long as you fear. The hard part will be the lawsuits by the greens over obtaining massive oak timber to frame the roof.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 15, 2019 11:55 PM (gSoXb)

441 398 It's a small matter of honor among my friends, when camping, to start the campfire with a single match. This leads to a very careful laying of the starting material,
and follow-on material to be fed.

One guy used the match to light the candle in his candle lantern, then used the candle to light the fire. A flag was thrown, and a technical foul called.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2019 11:46 PM (CDGwz)
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Creative thinking - I like it, but I can see why foul was called.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 15, 2019 11:55 PM (IDhUW)

442 Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 15, 2019 11:52 PM (IDhUW)

Take heart, dear one... it is not a burnt out husk. The interior is largely intact.
http://tinyurl.com/yym2yyvn

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 15, 2019 11:55 PM (tcwZs)

443 Also, I would really like to learn the following chef's secret: how to make savory foods taste sweeter, without using straight sugar.

I assume they use things like herbs, sweet garlic, juices and wine...
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 15, 2019 11:47 PM (miE9U)

Depends a lot on what you're cookin'. A lot of time the judicious application of heat does it. i.e., the maillard reaction.

Posted by: Average Guy at April 15, 2019 11:56 PM (LMcFk)

444 Sgt Pepper, thanks for the advice, but why do I hear "Dueling Banjos" somewhere in the background? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 15, 2019 11:56 PM (miE9U)

445 Was in Ketchum, OK, wintertime. It was 18 and beautiful. Tulsa too.

Posted by: Sgt. Pepper at April 15, 2019 11:56 PM (Hwt6E)

446 where it was, but I think it was Tehran... some Koranimals slipped their leads and decided to kill a Soviet diplomat. Moscow instructed the KGB field office to make it right, and hideously disfigured corpses of conspirators started turning up in public places within days. Problem didn't come up again.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at A

lebanon. they cut their testicles off then sewed them in their mouths while they were alive and left them at the embassy.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 11:56 PM (MTjB1)

447 394 Those old Cathedrals in Europe are in a constant state of repair. I doubt terrorism. More than likely an accident while repairing something. It's not hard to do in an almost 900 year old building.
Posted by: Puddleglum at April 15, 2019 11:45 PM (HCqAo)

--St. Boniface Cathedral in Winnipeg cut quite an imposing figure back in the day. It was burned down because some idiot worker (probably a Frog) tossed a ciggy and it landed on fresh tar on the roof.

https://infogalactic.com/info/Saint_Boniface_Cathedral

Posted by: logprof at April 15, 2019 11:56 PM (XAYDB)

448 Also, I would really like to learn the following chef's secret: how to make savory foods taste sweeter, without using straight sugar.

I assume they use things like herbs, sweet garlic, juices and wine...
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 15, 2019 11:47 PM (miE9U)

Honey, they use honey.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at April 15, 2019 11:56 PM (Rz2Nc)

449 Same here. Haven"t turned ac on yet.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 15, 2019 11:56 PM (PUmDY)

450 Shit, Stars just tied it up.

Posted by: logprof at April 15, 2019 11:56 PM (XAYDB)

451 Joe Mannix nailed it. Massive sense of entitlement is my guess.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 15, 2019 11:56 PM (miE9U)

452 Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 15, 2019 11:55 PM (IDhUW)

Depends on the flag

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2019 11:56 PM (aA3+G)

453 Evasive, hmmm

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 15, 2019 11:56 PM (miE9U)

454 433 She said, paraphrasing, "The Soviets would wipe Tehran and Mecca off the face of the earth if they did."
Posted by: logprof at April 15, 2019 11

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I can't remember where it was, but I think it was Tehran... some Koranimals slipped their leads and decided to kill a Soviet diplomat. Moscow instructed the KGB field office to make it right, and hideously disfigured corpses of conspirators started turning up in public places within days. Problem didn't come up again.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 11:54 PM (5aX2M)
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This kind of retribution is the "language" they understand.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 15, 2019 11:57 PM (IDhUW)

455 Posted by: Miklos, the tallest building in Great Zimbabwe was two stories at April 15, 2019 11:54 PM (zCyNd)
++++++++++++++++
There was once a primitive society that lived in grass huts. The king had a two-story grass hut. As was their culture, when the king was deposed and the new king took over, he would order a new throne from which to rule. The old throne was moved into storage on the second floor.

This went on for some time and several kings. Eventually, the combined weight of the disused thrones caused the weak structure of the "palace" to collapse.

The moral of this story? Those who live grass houses should not stow thrones.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 11:57 PM (49vFo)

456 -
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Also, I would really like to learn the following chef's secret: how to make savory foods taste sweeter, without using straight sugar.

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Pixy Sticks are queer.

Posted by: Straight Sugar at April 15, 2019 11:57 PM (RVcmP)

457 If she's from AR she'll know where it's ok to go.

Posted by: Sgt. Pepper at April 15, 2019 11:58 PM (Hwt6E)

458 Just a quick looksee but the Mars Cubesats that were sent with the InSight Lander cost less than $20 million. They were done on a shoestring with JPL running the show so not really NASA but a sub.

Posted by: pawn at April 15, 2019 11:58 PM (dPTGY)

459 Sgt Pepper, true :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 15, 2019 11:58 PM (miE9U)

460 lebanon. they cut their testicles off then sewed them in their mouths while they were alive and left them at the embassy.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 11:56 PM (MTjB1)

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That's the one. I was sparing the gory details, but that's the one.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 16, 2019 12:00 AM (5aX2M)

461 I actually once made up a spoof song of the Stones song Brown Sugar, called White Sugar...

Oooooo white sugar
how come yer so tasty, oh yeah
oooooo white sugar
I'm gonna die early...

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 16, 2019 12:00 AM (miE9U)

462 442 Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 15, 2019 11:52 PM (IDhUW)

Take heart, dear one... it is not a burnt out husk. The interior is largely intact.
http://tinyurl.com/yym2yyvn
Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 15, 2019 11:55 PM (tcwZs)
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I hope it is rebuilt as a cathedral and not a mosque.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:00 AM (IDhUW)

463 That's wonderful! I'm not sure Arkansas is ever really cold.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at April 15, 2019 11:53 PM (Rz2Nc)

I don't know where you are, but up here along the MO line, we were at or below zero for two weeks this winter, and had longer stretches where it never got above freezing.Quite pleasant for me, as I love winter, but it does get cold here; maybe not MN/ND/WI level of cold, but many parts of the South get chilly for a few months.It snows occasionally in Houston and New Orleans.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 12:01 AM (tcwZs)

464 I am sad that one of the monuments to the grandeur of God

What is getting lost is just that. Just that is the reason for the quality in workmanship the workers tried to achieve in honor of the grandeur of God. That sort of work isn't much in style these days.

Posted by: dartist at April 16, 2019 12:01 AM (K22Va)

465 --I remember as a kid in the '80s when so many hijackings and attacks against Americans and Israelis were going on asking my mother, "How come the Arab terrorists never attack the commies?"

During the Iran-Iraq War, Iran ordered Hezbollah in Beirut to start kidnapping foreign diplomats and other foreigners to use as bargaining chips.

Hezbollah grabbed a couple of Soviet diplomats. The Soviets flew in a spetnaz team to Beirut, who grabbed a couple of relatives of high-ranking Hezbollah officials, and returned the relatives, dead and mutilated, to the high-ranking Hezbollah officials. Hezbollah freed the Soviet diplomats, and didn't try that trick again with Russians.

Posted by: The ARC of History at April 16, 2019 12:01 AM (I2/tG)

466 lebanon. they cut their testicles off then sewed them in their mouths while they were alive and left them at the embassy.

Posted by: yankeefifth

Not exactly. One of the Soviets kidnapped was the brother of the KGB station chief.

The response involved one Arab's testicles, the others were returned in parts (starting with pinky fingers and ears). One of the ones the Russians grabbed was the brother of the group that got froggy.

The Soviets/Russians were returned in one piece each.

The unthoughtful Arabs, more or less.

Posted by: Miklos, respect for Slav "customer" service at April 16, 2019 12:01 AM (zCyNd)

467 "No, really, why did Lori Loughlin plead not guilty?"

Because she's not guilty of the bullshit charges they are throwing at her (save the tax evasion stuff, though I don't even know if that's part of this thing). ALso, she knows that if there is any sanity left in this society she will be able to seat one juror who will throw this shit out and find the judge and prosecutor guilty of 1st degree douchebaggery and abuse of power by a useless shithead.

That's why.

What they are doing with this laughable "criminal" case about cheating in college (big fvcking whoop) is INSANE. INSANE.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 16, 2019 12:02 AM (ASicf)

468 Nashville scores on a sweet arcing shot.

3-2 Preds.

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 12:02 AM (XAYDB)

469 I've thought of a lot of spoof song ideas over the years. and I always wish I could tell Weird Al about them.

But then, I also always imagine he'd say the same thing in response: "How about YOU write 'em!!" ;-)

(I bet people are constantly giving him their ideas and asking "what he thinks", meaning, they want to hear how incredibly impressed he is, when he's not.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 16, 2019 12:02 AM (miE9U)

470 >>>Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 11:54 PM (5aX2M)
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This kind of retribution is the "language" they understand.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 15, 2019 11:57 PM (IDhUW)
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During the airline hijack period, one of Howard Cosell's book: It takes place in Germany, the plane is hijacked, the Polizie or military are stationed on a roof top and America military come to assist.

They are amazed at the indecisive passivity of the Germans.

Posted by: Sgt. Pepper at April 16, 2019 12:03 AM (Hwt6E)

471
Depends on the flag
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2019 11:56 PM (aA3+G)

Yellow, red, pirates???
Definitely not the red, white, and blue - btw, nice top pic!

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:04 AM (IDhUW)

472 Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:00 AM (IDhUW)

Honey, it's still a cathedral, it just needs a new roof. Seriously, the inside is still fine. They could probably still hold Easter services, although I suppose they won't just to be safe.
People will flock to Sacre-Coeur and be accosted by the string bracelet men.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 12:05 AM (tcwZs)

473 Posted by: qdpsteve at April 16, 2019 12:00 AM (miE9U)

Don't give up your day job, Mate

Posted by: n at April 16, 2019 12:06 AM (aA3+G)

474 While I definitely am sad about Notre Dame, I was reading earlier, the thing is 900 years old and it's not its first fire.

On top of that, even in a hyper-secular society like France, they seem to actually love the place and want to rebuild. Here's hoping something good can still come out of the bad.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 16, 2019 12:06 AM (miE9U)

475 n, no worries, I'm not :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 16, 2019 12:07 AM (miE9U)

476 (I bet people are constantly giving him their ideas and asking "what he thinks", meaning, they want to hear how incredibly impressed he is, when he's not.)

I knew someone who worked for an ad agency, which returned all correspondence received from the public suggesting new ad campaigns or slogans, indicating that no-one but a secretary had read it.

You didn't want to do a new ad campaign, and then have someone come out of the woodwork claiming that it was their idea. I suspect Weird Al has similar concerns.

Posted by: The ARC of History at April 16, 2019 12:07 AM (I2/tG)

477 Depends on the flag

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2019 11:56 PM (aA3+G)

Yellow, red, pirates???

Definitely not the red, white, and blue - btw, nice top pic!

Old Glory standing stiffly,
Crimson, white and indigo.
Indigo.

Posted by: dartist at April 16, 2019 12:07 AM (K22Va)

478 My parents told me tonight that I asked them if they were getting a divorce the first time we went to Notre Dame and they were arguing about French traffic/maps.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 16, 2019 12:08 AM (PUmDY)

479 ARC, exactly.

Sort of like Snoopy's rejection letters. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 16, 2019 12:08 AM (miE9U)

480 Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:04 AM (IDhUW)

Gold, red, hammer, so on .......

Posted by: nMisanthropic Humanitarian at April 16, 2019 12:08 AM (aA3+G)

481 Joe Mannix, that was such a groaner as to be Muldoon worthy.

Posted by: cfo mom at April 16, 2019 12:08 AM (RfzVr)

482 hey are amazed at the indecisive passivity of the Germans.
Posted by: Sgt. Pepper at April 16, 2019 12:03

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The Israeli Olympic team found that out the hard way.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 16, 2019 12:09 AM (5aX2M)

483 464 I am sad that one of the monuments to the grandeur of God

What is getting lost is just that. Just that is the reason for the quality in workmanship the workers tried to achieve in honor of the grandeur of God. That sort of work isn't much in style these days.
Posted by: dartist at April 16, 2019 12:01 AM (K22Va)
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It will be difficult to replace. Even if someone were to build something new I don't know that it would have that mentality embedded in the work. Some people have the mindset but not the skills and some people have the skills and not the mindset.

I would love to see that combination, skill and mindset, again.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:09 AM (IDhUW)

484 qdpsteve #439:
Evasive and mindful, thanks!
Sounds like a good time to go then.

Bear in mind, she was contrasting it with October in her native Chicago!

Posted by: mindful webworker is about to say good-night at April 16, 2019 12:10 AM (ZOlfu)

485 I am beyond extremely skeptical of almost all the accounts of extreme Soviet or Russian reprisals for terror attacks, which I believe (the accounts) started with Lebanon in the 80s.

As for the dearth of Islamist (or, to go back to logprof's comment about it) or other* Arab terror attacks on Soviet targets, not the slightest mystery. Up til A'stan in 1979, the Soviets were backers of the causes that (more or less, depending) the terror groups supported, not to mention the Soviet support for the terror groups themselves. Simply no point (to the extent there ever was a point) in attacking Soviet targets.

None of which has the slightest bearing on the capacity of the Russian state (pre- or post-1991) for brutality against its enemies. Fairly familiar with the festivities in/around Chechnya, first war. Medieval. Of course the Russians reasonably consider the Chechens the toughest most brutal people on the planet, so no surprise. Chechens have also had a key but largely unmentioned role in the islamist terror era, globally. Man for man the most valuable and dangerous element in the whole enterprise.

* Some of the nastiest terror groups prior to the 9/11 era weren't islamist, even the Arab ones

Posted by: rhomboid at April 16, 2019 12:10 AM (QDnY+)

486 What they are doing with this laughable "criminal" case about cheating in college (big fvcking whoop) is INSANE. INSANE.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 16, 2019 12:02 AM (ASicf)

Concur, they are threatening her with FOURTY YEARS in prison.

You don't get that for MURDER most of the time.

Posted by: Don Q at April 16, 2019 12:10 AM (NgKpN)

487 Miklos -- By low tech, I mean not having the same building or transportation equipment we have today. Those stones were quarried by hand, transported to the building site by oxen pulled sledges, and lifted into place by human or ox powered pulleys. No jack hammers at the quarries. No gas powered trucks to transport the stone. And no gas powered cranes to lift the finished stones a couple hundred or more feet into the air. Not to mention lifting rafters shaped from entire trees.

Now -- Once more off to bed. No more distractions.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at April 16, 2019 12:10 AM (ebZss)

488 Joe Mannix, that was such a groaner as to be Muldoon worthy.
Posted by: cfo mom at April 16, 2019 12:08 AM (RfzVr)
+++++++++++
I live to serve

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2019 12:10 AM (49vFo)

489 Notre Dame will be rebuilt with the generous contributions of France's Islamic citizens and residents.

Solidarite, Fraternite, Egalite!

I can already hear the Marseillaise spontaneously erupting all over France after Friday prayers.

Posted by: Miklos, not on CNN's commentator shortlist at April 16, 2019 12:10 AM (zCyNd)

490 481 Joe Mannix, that was such a groaner as to be Muldoon worthy.
Posted by: cfo mom at April 16, 2019 12:08 AM (RfzVr)
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I had to check the nic

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:10 AM (IDhUW)

491 I have heard there is Star Wars crap in the Washington Cathedral. I hope ND doesn't go that route.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 16, 2019 12:11 AM (PUmDY)

492 the thing is 900 years old and it's not its first fire.

So we have your vote?

Posted by: Bernie/Biden2020! at April 16, 2019 12:12 AM (zCyNd)

493 mindful, LOL.

I always imagine people in those areas having to hop to work because they're frozen solid :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 16, 2019 12:12 AM (miE9U)

494 Bernie, I'd sooner set my ballot on fire.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 16, 2019 12:12 AM (miE9U)

495 Some of the nastiest terror groups prior to the 9/11 era weren't islamist, even the Arab ones

--Tamil Tigers FTW

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 12:15 AM (XAYDB)

496 I don't know where you are, but up here along the MO line, we were at or below zero for two weeks this winter, and had longer stretches where it never got above freezing.Quite pleasant for me, as I love winter, but it does get cold here; maybe not MN/ND/WI level of cold, but many parts of the South get chilly for a few months.It snows occasionally in Houston and New Orleans.
Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 12:01 AM (tcwZs)

I'm in Ohio now. Both my parents were born and raised in MO. I'd be rather confident that your below freezing two weeks didn't occur in October.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at April 16, 2019 12:16 AM (Rz2Nc)

497 . . . Although Sendero Luminoso was 1b to the Tigers.

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 12:17 AM (XAYDB)

498 420 Take the family out to the woods for a picnic and discover you have no fire. Your assignment, and you have no option, is to get the grill up and burning.

You are given one lit cigarette with which to achieve this goal.

Posted by: Sgt. Pepper at April 15, 2019 11:37 PM (Hwt6E)

Your kid has a full head of hair? You're good to go.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 15, 2019 11:51 PM (ASicf)
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I should not have laughed at that, but laugh I did.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:17 AM (IDhUW)

499 As for the dearth of Islamist (or, to go back to logprof's comment about it) or other* Arab terror attacks on Soviet targets, not the slightest mystery. Up til A'stan in 1979, the Soviets were backers of the causes that (more or less, depending) the terror groups supported, not to mention the Soviet support for the terror groups themselves. Simply no point (to the extent there ever was a point) in attacking Soviet targets.

* Some of the nastiest terror groups prior to the 9/11 era weren't islamist, even the Arab ones

Posted by: rhomboid at April 16, 2019 12:10 AM (QDnY+)

Yep. That was back in the day of pan-arabism. muslim concerns had no weight among the arabs and they were total clients of the Soviets - many of the arabs being marxists of one form or another, even. The biggest supporters of global terrorism at the time were the Soviets through their arab partners.

Of course, Hezbollah was different and marked a change. They were among the first in the arab world to make the big move back to pan-islamism - of course, the muzzie brotherhood had existed in Egypt and could pull some shit but their power was severely limited. And the SOviets were worming their way into Iran, post-Shah, trying to keep up with the changes (especially losing Egypt in the Camp David Accords).

But it's interesting how so many forget that most of the arab countries were whole Soviet clients for decades. Back then, Israel was the second largest exporter of Soviet arms (from all the stuff they captured from the arabs).

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 16, 2019 12:17 AM (ASicf)

500 I would love to see that combination, skill and mindset, again.

The wish may be there but the skills are not taught to that degree anymore. Never see it again unfortunately.

Posted by: dartist at April 16, 2019 12:18 AM (K22Va)

501 Some of the nastiest terror groups prior to the 9/11 era weren't islamist, even the Arab ones
Posted by: rhomboid

Well, let's not forget The Assassination Bureau, which had Diana Rigg.

Posted by: Miklos, a Rigg fan since boyhood at April 16, 2019 12:18 AM (zCyNd)

502 Goodnight good people!

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at April 16, 2019 12:19 AM (Rz2Nc)

503 Posted by: rhomboid at April 16, 2019 12:10 AM (QDnY+)

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Could be bluster/exaggeration, but two points:

1.) Such reprisals are entirely consistent with Soviet methods when they wanted to make a point - mild by comparison to what they routinely did to Russians.

2.) The post-Soviet Russians have been far more effective at subduing the Islamists in Chechnya and elsewhere than we have, and it has never been because of judicious application of gentle ROE.

I'm inclined to believe it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 16, 2019 12:20 AM (5aX2M)

504 Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at April 16, 2019 12:16 AM (Rz2Nc)

Oh gosh no, it was January and February! October is always gorgeous weather, can even still be hot in early October. (And probably chilly to steve in the evening!) But thankfully not humid.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 12:20 AM (tcwZs)

505 My beard may have germs but I've outlived every dog born in 1960.

Posted by: Jake Kengle at April 16, 2019 12:20 AM (qMzqr)

506 Good night evasive!

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:21 AM (IDhUW)

507 Red-headed, from what I can tell I'm good 'til the mercury dips below 65 or so. Then I start feeling cold.

I know, I'm a SoCal freak. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 16, 2019 12:21 AM (miE9U)

508 Preds fend off an onslaught and hang on 3-2.

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 12:21 AM (XAYDB)

509 I am off to bed. Have a good night, everyone.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2019 12:22 AM (49vFo)

510 "Since the President's tweet Friday evening, I have experienced an increase in direct threats on my life -- many directly referencing or replying to the President's video," Omar wrote in a statement.

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Omar is Smolletting.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 16, 2019 12:22 AM (+y/Ru)

511 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 16, 2019 12:17 AM (ASicf)

Interesting how a LOT of Arab countries went from Hitler supporters to Russian clients.

Like they were more interested in hating the WEST, than in progressing.

Posted by: Don Q at April 16, 2019 12:22 AM (NgKpN)

512 472 Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:00 AM (IDhUW)

Honey, it's still a cathedral, it just needs a new roof. Seriously, the inside is still fine. They could probably still hold Easter services, although I suppose they won't just to be safe.
People will flock to Sacre-Coeur and be accosted by the string bracelet men.
Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 12:05 AM (tcwZs)
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Sounds good, I've never been there, only read about it.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:23 AM (IDhUW)

513 We lived in Oklahoma the summer of '80. Never got below 80°F even at night, for something like six weeks, most days over 100° highs - actually burned off the usual humidity, so there was that. House A/C failed. We took to sleeping on the (flat) roof.

So, that fall we moved to Chicago. Just in time for the coldest winter day ever recorded.

"In action, watch the timing." -Lao Tzu
"Also on carburators." -Guru Radd Dadd Upanishadd

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Good niiiiight, alla y'all. Sweet dreams.

Posted by: mindful webworker is glad not to be in Chicago anymore at April 16, 2019 12:23 AM (ZOlfu)

514 -

Omar is Smolletting.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 16, 2019 12:22 AM (+y/Ru)

Like a snake?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 16, 2019 12:23 AM (ufFY8)

515
They are amazed at the indecisive passivity of the Germans.
Posted by: Sgt. Pepper

There has been the occasional good Frenchy.

The pilot of the aircraft that was hijacked to Entebbe died recently. He has been (or will be ) buried in Israel, although not a Jew.

He had been a Resistance fighter (the real kind).

Posted by: Miklos, giving credit at April 16, 2019 12:23 AM (zCyNd)

516 510 "Since the President's tweet Friday evening, I have experienced an increase in direct threats on my life -- many directly referencing or replying to the President's video," Omar wrote in a statement.

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Omar is Smolletting.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 16, 2019 12:22 AM (+y/Ru)

If there is no Police Report, or FBI report, then bullshit.

Posted by: Don Q at April 16, 2019 12:23 AM (NgKpN)

517 Good night Joe!

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:24 AM (IDhUW)

518 I imagine there remains sufficient skill and craftsmanship yet to get the roof back on Notre Dame.
They may have to mine the Carpathians or some other old-growth forest to get trees large enough, but they'll probably just make do with larger quantities of smaller girth.

Which is what she said.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 12:25 AM (tcwZs)

519 Good night mindful!

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:26 AM (IDhUW)

520 Are you speculating in real estate, now, Miklos?

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at April 16, 2019 12:26 AM (CLcKT)

521 The post-Soviet Russians have been far more effective at subduing the Islamists in Chechnya

*hoping for a barrel pass*

The First Chechen War is generally considered to have been a put-up job by Putin, who needed an external threat and easy war to shore up his position after, in particular, the Kursk episode.

Posted by: Miklos, out-pointing before cig break at April 16, 2019 12:26 AM (zCyNd)

522 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2019 12:22 AM (49vFo)

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As always: good riddance to bad rubbish

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 16, 2019 12:28 AM (5aX2M)

523 The Avenatti article linked leaves out a couple of key details, one $4MM judgement he skimmed was from a parapalegic victim (he never distributed more than a small amount of the money.)

http://tinyurl.com/yxndptbc

There are videos on YouTube regarding GB Racing and featuring creepy porn lawyer from 5 years ago when he was racing at LeMans, spending the parapalegic guy's money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m5TSqlYFik

Posted by: scottst at April 16, 2019 12:28 AM (mDrEG)

524 LMAO the "extraordinary potential of sexual energy" is begetting new life.

Duh.

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 12:28 AM (XAYDB)

525 516 510 "Since the President's tweet Friday evening, I have experienced an increase in direct threats on my life -- many directly referencing or replying to the President's video," Omar wrote in a statement.
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You are a public figure that has said "bad" things yourself. Deal with it! Or do you need some toxic white male to defend you?

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:28 AM (IDhUW)

526 Are you speculating in real estate, now, Miklos?
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto

What?

Selling, actually.

They tell me Yankees are bringing their money South.

As much of an insult to my ancestors as some may see it, I will sell the family interest in the parking garage.

Posted by: Miklos, liquidating at April 16, 2019 12:30 AM (zCyNd)

527 Heh, so much of this Flames-Avs game has been played shorthanded by one or both teams.

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 12:30 AM (XAYDB)

528 Sounds good, I've never been there, only read about it.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:23 AM (IDhUW)

It is worth seeing for sure. I myself prefer Westminster Abbey, but it is perhaps not as grand, not being a cathedral. And I have a strong bias towards anything British and an innate antipathy for the Frogs, so you must not pay any mind to my opinion on such things!

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 12:31 AM (tcwZs)

529 lol, nothing like sending armor without infantry into grozny.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 16, 2019 12:31 AM (MTjB1)

530 Some people did something. Maybe some people do something back.

Posted by: dartist at April 16, 2019 12:33 AM (K22Va)

531 The First Chechen War is generally considered to have been a put-up job by Putin, who needed an external threat and easy war to shore up his position after, in particular, the Kursk episode.
Posted by: Miklos, out-pointing before cig break at April 16, 2019 12:26 AM (zCyNd)

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One of the craziest things from that episode... I saw a video once of the Navy holding an info session for the families, and this irate wife or mother of one of the submariners gets up and starts shouting, and won't stop once commanded. So, this burly ass bitch, I'm guessing a navy nurse, comes up behind her and just pops her in the neck with (I hope) a sedative.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 16, 2019 12:33 AM (5aX2M)

532 not sure why disgust would not be the main feeling. shithole does not even have the resources to make sure the cathedral does not burn down.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 16, 2019 12:33 AM (MTjB1)

533 I'm not likely to travel to Europe, but one never knows.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:33 AM (IDhUW)

534 We lived in Oklahoma the summer of '80. Never got below 80°F even at night, for something like six weeks, most days over 100° highs

The great book How to Lie With Statistics noted that some local civic boosters in Oklahoma City were pointing out that the average year-round temperature in Oklahoma City was 72 degrees, which obviously demonstrated that Oklahoma City had a nice climate.

Nice, pleasant, average temperature, right?

Posted by: The ARC of History at April 16, 2019 12:34 AM (I2/tG)

535 lol, nothing like sending armor without infantry into grozny.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 16, 2019 12:31 AM (MTjB1)

All your Chechnya are ours!

Also missile homing to cell phone of Leader! Ha Ha!

Posted by: Jap kid who is fanatic Call of Duty-Chechnya player at April 16, 2019 12:34 AM (zCyNd)

536 530 Some people did something. Maybe some people do something back.
Posted by: dartist at April 16, 2019 12:33 AM (K22Va)
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Yep

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:35 AM (IDhUW)

537 lol, nothing like sending armor without infantry into grozny.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 16, 2019 12:31 AM (MTjB1

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The tank action in Grozny was a humiliating disaster. Utter foolishness.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 16, 2019 12:35 AM (5aX2M)

538 Did Avenatti have a NASCAR or Formula 1 team? Kidding.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 16, 2019 12:36 AM (PUmDY)

539 "Since the President's tweet Friday evening, I have experienced an increase in direct threats on my life -- many directly referencing or replying to the President's video," Omar wrote in a statement.

Sounds like she should stay away from softball fields.

Posted by: The ARC of History at April 16, 2019 12:36 AM (I2/tG)

540 Wasn't a whole lot of laughter in Grozny or anywhere else during either war. And Chechen toughness (and skill), and Russian incompetence, notwithstanding, issue was never in doubt. But the Chechen diaspora talent has been a tremendous force multiplier/quality enhancer in other theaters, for the bad guys.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 16, 2019 12:37 AM (QDnY+)

541 lol, nothing like sending armor without infantry into grozny.

Israelis did the same thing in the 1973 war in Suez City. The Israelis thought that the war was basically over (a ceasefire time had already been announced) - the Egyptians had other ideas.

Posted by: The ARC of History at April 16, 2019 12:38 AM (I2/tG)

542 Ms Tammy! Y5!

Re skills to rebuild: they're not completely dead, and i'm pretty sure there was growth in the industry after the hampton court & windsor castle fire repairs.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 16, 2019 12:38 AM (tUOCc)

543 Posted by: yankeefifth at April 16, 2019 12:33 AM (MTjB1)

Oh, YOU!

I was contemptuous myself, but honestly, they done good.

Other than insisting on making sure the place was cleared of people before they so much as turned on a hose (a slight exaggeration, maybe, but seriously, this is one of the beauties and wonders of Western civilization, I think they coulda spared a few peons to save her) they done good.
And it DID NOT burn down, not even close. I feel like a fool for crying all day.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 12:39 AM (tcwZs)

544 excellent article on American Greatness that basically said what Steyn said, the culture that built Notre Dame doesn't exist anymore.

Posted by: booknlass at April 16, 2019 12:39 AM (xIKXj)

545 BeBe! How be ye?

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 12:40 AM (tcwZs)

546 533 I'm not likely to travel to Europe, but one never knows.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:33 AM (IDhUW)

--I may have been there for the last time, at least for a while. If I do return, more likely to be eastern Europe, although I would love to visit the family in Corsica, and I'm not worried about Koranimals fucking with Corsicans.

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 12:41 AM (XAYDB)

547 Article said every beam was one tree. When they renovated a couple a hundred years ago there weren't enough oaks, because of clearing, to do the bottom so the used softer wood.

Are there any oaks remaining in Europe?
Are there enough oaks to do the Cathedral.

Guess they will have to glue them together.

Posted by: Sgt. Pepper at April 16, 2019 12:43 AM (Hwt6E)

548 The tank action in Grozny was a humiliating disaster. Utter foolishness.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Political Commissars do not have a good military record.

Unfortunately, that reminds me of a US General (Casey), under Obama, saying that the diversity of the US military was it's greatest strength.

Posted by: Miklos, seeing history repeat at April 16, 2019 12:43 AM (zCyNd)

549 Who wants to hear a story?

Excellent! I'll begin.

Herring lay their eggs on seaweed or hemlock branches which are then harvested. If they are on seaweed, they can be eaten with the seaweed. If they are are on hemlock, or I assume, other pine tree branches, they are peeled off to be eaten. the branches are so thickly covered with eggs that the branches can barely be seen.

They are cooked by putting them in hot water for three seconds, then they are peeled off. And dipped in melted butter and soy sauce.

I tried them for the first time the other day. Loved the experience. They are crunchy with a slight fish taste.

I also had them in a iceberg lettuce salad with sea asparagus sprinkld with black seaweed, which was also delicious.

It is a cultural thing to share herring eggs with friends and family when the herring eggs are harvested.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:44 AM (IDhUW)

550 Posted by: booknlass at April 16, 2019 12:39 AM (xIKXj)

I would have Mark Steyn's babies, but he is wrong about this... not his basic premise, as far as religion and such, but the French are EXTREMELY proud of their culture and they will absolutely rebuild le grand dame.

They ain't gonna give up any vacation time or anything extreme like that, and the paperwork alone will take a decade unless they rubberstamp everything (and they probably will) but it will be done.

My only fear is that some damn fool will want to add some modern horror to it.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 12:44 AM (tcwZs)

551 Bebes!

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 16, 2019 12:44 AM (MTjB1)

552 545 BeBe! How be ye?
Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 12:40 AM

Back is still pissed off, but i got the jacuzzi tub to work so i'm letting it work its magic right now. need to get a new job, can't take any more of the micromanaging millennial. Got the resume updated yesterday, waiting to hear back from old boss about needed fine tuning.

How are you?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 16, 2019 12:46 AM (tUOCc)

553 Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:33 AM (IDhUW)

Oh you have to find a way, you would absolutely love it.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 12:46 AM (tcwZs)

554 Speaking of terrorists, any Moron seen Hotel Mumbai?

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 12:46 AM (XAYDB)

555 My fear looks like the Kunsthaus Graz:

http://tinyurl.com/y2c5ys9o

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 16, 2019 12:47 AM (5aX2M)

556 Tammy, i totally respect you, and I figure you know better than I do.

we'll see. as you say, the difference may be startling. exactly what is French culture built upon now, as compared to the 12th century?

let's hope for the best.

Posted by: booknlass at April 16, 2019 12:48 AM (xIKXj)

557 I'm not likely to travel to Europe, but one never knows.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:33 AM (IDhUW)

Circumstances allowing, I will be in Europe in a couple of months.

I have no worries of attack (other than from drunk locals, who would be handled by other drunk locals, aka friends) in a small Hungarian village by the lake.

I also would like to visit friends in Slovakia, and to visit a couple of places in Czech. I figure, as long as I'm not in an airport, I'll be pretty safe.

Posted by: Miklos, itinerizing at April 16, 2019 12:48 AM (zCyNd)

558 Mike Rowe is killing it on Tucker's show.

I gotta whisper to Mike: Pssst, the reason so many employers are obsessed with applicants having a bachelor's degree is that they're forbidden to hire on the basis of I.Q. tests by the SJW SCOTUS.

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 12:49 AM (XAYDB)

559 It is a cultural thing to share herring eggs with friends and family when the herring eggs are harvested.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:44 AM (IDhUW)

I thought you had to cut down a tree first.

Posted by: Miklos, a ni-sayer at April 16, 2019 12:50 AM (zCyNd)

560 >>>My only fear is that some damn fool will want to add some modern horror to it.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 12:44 AM (tcwZs)
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The only things modern they need to add are fire control and restrooms.

Posted by: Sgt. Pepper at April 16, 2019 12:50 AM (Hwt6E)

561 Eurotrash Girl hidden track on Kerosene Hat is one of Cracker's greatest songs.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 16, 2019 12:51 AM (PUmDY)

562 For some reason I think of the Czechs as freedom loving people.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:51 AM (IDhUW)

563

Is it alive, dead, fresh, frozen, what (?) when you cut down the tree? And can you mount it on a stick or something, or is it strictly a hand job? And what about mounting 20 on a chainsaw?

Posted by: M K Ultra at April 16, 2019 12:52 AM (UFLLM)

564 555 My fear looks like the Kunsthaus Graz:

http://tinyurl.com/y2c5ys9o
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 16, 2019 12:47 AM (5aX2M)

--Coventry Cathedral, bombed in WWII, was replaced by a modernistic grotesquery I don't even want to link.

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 12:53 AM (XAYDB)

565 Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 12:41 AM (XAYDB)

I've been to Europe several times the last few years and never once felt unsafe, even in London which is really the only place I noticed any obvious Muslims. (Full on bag lady types)
Now the first time I went, we were on the train from CdG to Paris and it was stuffed full of young Arab speaking men ( teens and 20s, I'd say) all of whom hopped up immediately to offer their seats when any older woman got on, which is far more than I can say any guy I ever rode with on the subway in NYC or a bus in LA ever did.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 12:53 AM (tcwZs)

566 Article said every beam was one tree. When they renovated a couple a hundred years ago there weren't enough oaks, because of clearing, to do the bottom so the used softer wood.

Are there any oaks remaining in Europe?
Are there enough oaks to do the Cathedral.

Guess they will have to glue them together.
Posted by: Sgt. Pepper at April 16, 2019 12:43 AM (Hwt6E)

The oaks they used for beams back then were from old-growth forests, meaning that the trees themselves were hundreds of years old when they were harvested and provided wood far sturdier than much of what's available today. The closest decent-sized remaining stands of old-growth Oak Forest are in Eastern Poland, IIRC.

Posted by: Surfperch at April 16, 2019 12:53 AM (tVQUs)

567 538
Did Avenatti have a NASCAR or Formula 1 team? Kidding.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie

IMSA, which has had an interesting history with well heeled and very sketchy business men who owned race teams. I believe one of them in the 80s used the team to smuggle cocaine around the country.
FYI, IMSA is one of the racing series I follow alot, along with Indycars.

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 16, 2019 12:53 AM (HCqAo)

568 For some reason I think of the Czechs as freedom loving people.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12

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Th Czechs are my favorite Europeans. No offense to Magyars who may be hanging around, who are also pretty cool

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 16, 2019 12:53 AM (5aX2M)

569 559 It is a cultural thing to share herring eggs with friends and family when the herring eggs are harvested.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:44 AM (IDhUW)

I thought you had to cut down a tree first.
Posted by: Miklos, a ni-sayer at April 16, 2019 12:50 AM (zCyNd)
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I haven't harvested them myself, but I think the eggs are laid on branches that are in the water.....or you are pulling my leg and it went right over my head

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:54 AM (IDhUW)

570 For some reason I think of the Czechs as freedom loving people.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel

Have you read The Good Soldier Svejk?

It shows the general orneriness that come from being told what to do for a few hundred years.

Posted by: Miklos, umtauglich at April 16, 2019 12:54 AM (zCyNd)

571 562 For some reason I think of the Czechs as freedom loving people.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:51 AM (IDhUW)

--Because they are?

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 12:54 AM (XAYDB)

572 The closest decent-sized remaining stands of old-growth Oak Forest are in Eastern Poland, IIRC.
Posted by: Surfperch at April 16, 2019 12:53 AM (tVQUs)

--Where the European bison roam.

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 12:55 AM (XAYDB)

573 or you are pulling my leg and it went right over my head
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:54 AM (IDhUW)

I will not taunt you again.

Posted by: Miklos Python at April 16, 2019 12:56 AM (zCyNd)

574 555 My fear looks like the Kunsthaus Graz:

http://tinyurl.com/y2c5ys9o

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 16, 2019 12:47 AM (5aX2M)

--Coventry Cathedral, bombed in WWII, was replaced by a modernistic grotesquery I don't even want to link.

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 12:53 AM (XAYDB)

I doubt the French would replace ND completely with any of that sort of thing, but I would not put it beyond them to add some weird modern thing.
But then again, I don't even like that one in Spain, what the hell is it called, Familia something.
I did not like Spain at all, although the people were great. I just don't like all that (to my eye) weird architecture they have.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 12:56 AM (tcwZs)

575 The Avenatti movie is coming. Maybe thirty years from now, when some aging Hollywood Millennial runs across his name and harkens back, but it will come.

Posted by: Thirdtwin at April 16, 2019 12:57 AM (CRhju)

576 Ms T check your email

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 16, 2019 12:57 AM (tUOCc)

577 Sagrada Familia?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 16, 2019 12:58 AM (tUOCc)

578 For some reason I think of the Czechs as freedom loving people.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:51 AM (IDhUW)

Their Parliament has been trying to add a Right to Bear Arms to their Constitution for quite a while now.

Posted by: Surfperch at April 16, 2019 12:58 AM (tVQUs)

579 Surfperch, interesting (about the old-growth forests in Poland). And, given the religious flavor in Poland, I'd imagine some harvesting of the older oaks to repair the cathedral might be doable.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 16, 2019 12:59 AM (QDnY+)

580

The French put a fucking glass pyramid skylight in the courtyard of the Louvre for fucks sake... they may replace the Spire with a goat dick minaret with jewel encrusted palladium Prince Albert...

Posted by: M K Ultra at April 16, 2019 12:59 AM (UFLLM)

581 -Coventry Cathedral, bombed in WWII, was replaced by a modernistic grotesquery I don't even want to link.
Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 12:53 AM (XAYDB)

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Oh my G-d. It's like they grafted that onto the remnant as an insult to the past. The kunsthaus is shoved into a picturesque town to highlight it's postmodern aggression.

But that thing is architectural rape.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 16, 2019 12:59 AM (5aX2M)

582 I doubt the French would replace ND completely with any of that sort of thing, but I would not put it beyond them to add some weird modern thing.
But then again, I don't even like that one in Spain, what the hell is it called, Familia something.
I did not like Spain at all, although the people were great. I just don't like all that (to my eye) weird architecture they have.
Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 12:56 AM (tcwZs)

--Begone! Gaudi had a brilliant imagination and was a devout Catholic.

Oh, and Catalan, not Spanish.

And Spanish? Did you even go to Toledo or Avila?

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 12:59 AM (XAYDB)

583 Oh, YOU! I was contemptuous myself, but honestly, they done good.

Other than insisting on making sure the place was cleared of people before they so much as turned on a hose (a slight exaggeration, maybe, but seriously, this is one of the beauties and wonders of Western civilization, I think they coulda spared a few peons to save her) they done good.
And it DID NOT burn down, not even close. I feel like a fool for crying all day.
Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at A

we have more in agreement.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 16, 2019 01:00 AM (MTjB1)

584 579 iven the religious flavor in Poland, I'd imagine some harvesting of the older oaks to repair the cathedral might be doable.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 16, 2019 12:59 AM (QD

The Parisiennes were showing some pretty decent religious flavor as Notre Dame burned. i was surprised to see so many pics of people kneeling in prayer

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 16, 2019 01:00 AM (tUOCc)

585 Back is still pissed off, but i got the jacuzzi tub to work so i'm letting it work its magic right now. need to get a new job, can't take any more of the micromanaging millennial. Got the resume updated yesterday, waiting to hear back from old boss about needed fine tuning.

How are you?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at A

we do very much appreciate you hot tubbing naked, however, you do not need the robe, you have to move the vid so we get to do more than admire your hair.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 16, 2019 01:01 AM (MTjB1)

586 The French put a fucking glass pyramid skylight in
the courtyard of the Louvre for fucks sake... they may replace the Spire
with a goat dick minaret with jewel encrusted palladium Prince
Albert...

Posted by: M K Ultra at April 16, 2019 12:59 AM

We've chosen the form of our destructor...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at April 16, 2019 01:01 AM (CLcKT)

587 I don't know if it's the same two guys (different coat on the right-hand one) but here's another probably-Moslem set of happy faces too...

https://twitter.com/CNYDeplorable/status/
1117915437646225408

The original tweet/s from Paul Watson show Moslems on Facebook (I think -- social media at least) praising the fire.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 16, 2019 01:02 AM (Dh1wo)

588 570 For some reason I think of the Czechs as freedom loving people.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel

Have you read The Good Soldier Svejk?

It shows the general orneriness that come from being told what to do for a few hundred years.
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I have not read that - I will write it down.

My general orneriness comes from just being told what to do

571 562 For some reason I think of the Czechs as freedom loving people.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:51 AM (IDhUW)

--Because they are?
Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 12:54 AM (XAYDB)
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Yes, but how would I know that, I know next to nothing about them.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 01:02 AM (IDhUW)

589 It shows the general orneriness that come from being told what to do for a few hundred years.
Posted by: Miklos, umtauglich at April 16, 2019 12:54 AM (zCyNd)

A-yup...

(Westerner with Southern Roots).

Posted by: Don Q at April 16, 2019 01:03 AM (NgKpN)

590 586 you have to move the vid so we get to do more than admire your hair.

You can see my hair with all the steam in here???!!! ok, who snuck in & upgraded the camera while i was at the shithole earning the mortgage payment?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 16, 2019 01:04 AM (tUOCc)

591 Posted by: Sgt. Pepper at April 16, 2019 12:50 AM (Hwt6E)

Oh now restrooms would be asking too much of Paris, don't go gettin' all crazy-talk.

I know I defended Muslims upthread, but I will admit that I was baffled by being inches deep in water in what few restrooms I did find, and someone toldme ot's from Muslims cleaning their butts.
Only place I will use the restroom outside my own hotel room in Paris anymore is the Westin, on (I think) rue de Castiglione. Gorgeous, spotless and they even have face cloths, which is another scarcity in Europe. Fucking savages.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 01:04 AM (tcwZs)

592 My new foster dog!
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y3uwmyj6

Posted by: andycanuck at April 16, 2019 01:04 AM (Dh1wo)

593 Yes, but how would I know that, I know next to nothing about them.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 01:02 AM (IDhUW)

--Prague Spring out in 1968 shoulda told you!

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 01:05 AM (XAYDB)

594 Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 16, 2019 01:00 AM (tUOCc)

Tourists.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 01:06 AM (tcwZs)

595 I don't know if it applies to women too but the men wash their before (and/or after?) using the toilet, Tammy.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 16, 2019 01:06 AM (Dh1wo)

596 The Parisiennes were showing some pretty decent religious flavor as Notre Dame burned. i was surprised to see so many pics of people kneeling in prayer
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 16, 2019 01:00 AM (tUOCc)
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I appreciated seeing that too.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 01:06 AM (IDhUW)

597 Surfperch I was just about to mention the Czech "2nd Amendment" thing. One of the oldest histories of firearm production in the world, plus the already mentioned historical/cultural elements inclining them towards an independent outlook, seem like they should make this happen. Forget the details - there was also sparring with Brussels over some idiotic EU anti-gun thing.

On some of the best online gun forums there are Czech commenters. I recall one who posted a link to a Liberation Day parade video. Beautifully restored American WWII military vehicles, onlookers waving American flags.

I'm looking forward to getting a CZ-75 some day before too long, and while it stands on its own merits, the fact that it's Czech will add to the package.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 16, 2019 01:06 AM (QDnY+)

598 ...wash their FEET before (and/or...

Posted by: andycanuck at April 16, 2019 01:06 AM (Dh1wo)

599 Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy
My email is jacked up, but you know I will start affirmations for you!
I am good, thanks!

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 01:08 AM (tcwZs)

600 Posted by: Miklos from the IX District at April 16, 2019 01:00 AM (zCyNd)

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Still, though, it achieves the goal of invading and dominating the beautiful old structures nearby.

Postmodern architecture is always an act of hate, but never more obvious than in ancient cities, where it actively assaults its surroundings.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 16, 2019 01:10 AM (5aX2M)

601 I will start affirmations for you!

Thank you kind lady. Say some for that situation i was telling you about. it got much much worse.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 16, 2019 01:12 AM (tUOCc)

602 Posted by: booknlass at April 16, 2019 12:48 AM (xIKXj)

Oh, I don't know any better than you do, but all that needs to be done is to have another roof put on. That they will be able to do!
The interior is fine and the facade is mostly also fine. They will be able to replace the stained glass, which was not every old anyway.
The spire will hopefully just be a straight replica, but it and the glass would be easy to modernize into some mess.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 01:12 AM (tcwZs)

603 You can see my hair with all the steam in here???!!! ok, who snuck in
upgraded the camera while i was at the shithole earning the
mortgage payment?

It was firmware upgrade.

Boy, was it ever!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at April 16, 2019 01:12 AM (0bu2O)

604 Hmmm, i wonder if whoever blew the margins swallowed

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 16, 2019 01:13 AM (tUOCc)

605 Surfperch, interesting (about the old-growth forests in Poland). And, given the religious flavor in Poland, I'd imagine some harvesting of the older oaks to repair the cathedral might be doable.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 16, 2019 12:59 AM (QDnY+)

There's still a small amount of semi-legal woodcutting in Poland's old-growth forests, so it's more even more feasible than you realize.

Also Wikipedia says that France still has about 6k acres of old-growth forests. But given how strict French conservation laws are, I expect that only a few, symbolic beams will come from France.

Posted by: Surfperch at April 16, 2019 01:13 AM (tVQUs)

606 Postmodern architecture is always an act of hate, but never more obvious than in ancient cities, where it actively assaults its surroundings.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Well at least, if you sit under the glass pyramid in the courtyard of the Louvre, it will sharpen razor blades.

Posted by: Miklos, who learned from Art Bell at April 16, 2019 01:13 AM (zCyNd)

607 Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 12:44 AM (IDhUW)

That is soooo cool!

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 01:13 AM (tcwZs)

608 Blanco! How's the new job?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 16, 2019 01:15 AM (tUOCc)

609 I'm looking forward to getting a CZ-75 some day
before too long, and while it stands on its own merits, the fact that
it's Czech will add to the package.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 16, 2019 01:06 AM (QDnY+)

One of my favs.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 16, 2019 01:15 AM (9Om/r)

610 Postmodern architecture is always an act of hate, but never more obvious than in ancient cities, where it actively assaults its surroundings.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 16, 2019 01:10 AM (5aX2M)

Before he went crazy, jug eared Prince Charles said about that, almost verbatim.

Posted by: Miklos, suggesting multi-coloured Legos at April 16, 2019 01:16 AM (zCyNd)

611 Blanco! How's the new job?

Delayed one week, so maybe I can tell you next Monday!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at April 16, 2019 01:16 AM (0bu2O)

612
--Prague Spring out in 1968 shoulda told you!
Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 01:05 AM (XAYDB
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Somehow that was neglected in my education in history. After a brief search on the interwebs I am better informed.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 01:16 AM (IDhUW)

613 Posted by: andycanuck at April 16, 2019 01:06 AM (Dh1wo)

Child, it was my experience before I found the Westin that no one paid the slightest attention to gender signs in the restrooms. I came out of the stall (which was a little room unto itself) at McDonalds to find myself surrounded by a line of (very polite) men. Startled the hell outta me, though I had gone into the wrong one.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 01:17 AM (tcwZs)

614 Delayed? So you get another week off or you extended at the old place?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 16, 2019 01:18 AM (tUOCc)

615 I think I'll just call them Weinstein buildings instead of postmodern from now on.

Huge, grotesquely misshapen, offensively crass buildings that take joy in the subjugation of beautiful things. IOW, revolting.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 16, 2019 01:19 AM (5aX2M)

616
Delayed? So you get another week off or you extended at the old place?

Took the week off to wrestle with the emotional four year old. I'll miss the pay, but I'd miss him more.

Good luck on your impending job search. I'm sure someone as talented as you won't stay on the market long.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at April 16, 2019 01:22 AM (0bu2O)

617 Somehow that was neglected in my education in history.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 01:16 AM (IDhUW)

--I wonder why?

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 01:24 AM (XAYDB)

618 616 I think I'll just call them Weinstein buildings instead of postmodern from now on.

Huge, grotesquely misshapen, offensively crass buildings that take joy in the subjugation of beautiful things. IOW, revolting.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 16, 2019 01:19 AM (5aX2M)

--They're also referred to as "Brutalist," which is also apt.

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 01:24 AM (XAYDB)

619 Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 12:59 AM (XAYDB)

Ah, thank you, Catalan, then. Don't care for it, that's all I got to say about that!

Went to Seville, Barcelona, Madrid, Castellon. It was hotter than hell, which didn't help my attitude, and it mainly just reminded me too much of L.A. Which I know is crazy, but it felt very similar overall to me, and I spent most of my adult life there, so it didn't feel especially vacation-ish, if that makes sense?
I will say it was fairly cheap.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 01:26 AM (tcwZs)

620 Goodnight all, thanks for the chat tonight.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 16, 2019 01:27 AM (miE9U)

621 Huge, grotesquely misshapen, offensively crass buildings that take joy in the subjugation of beautiful things. IOW, revolting.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 16, 2019 01:19 AM (5aX2M)

Have you ever seen The Cathedral Basilica of St. Joseph in San Jose?

It's a truly beautiful, ornate building overshadowed by a brutalist office tower next door. The worst part is that it's nearly impossible to photograph the cathedral without getting the office tower in the frame with it.

Posted by: Surfperch at April 16, 2019 01:28 AM (tVQUs)

622 As an aside, I'll have something to note about replacement of organic architectures and cityscapes in my novel. It has been especially poignant in England (think of those towering "rats in a box" welfare housing projects for the listless and the useless).

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 01:29 AM (XAYDB)

623 618 Somehow that was neglected in my education in history.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 01:16 AM (IDhUW)

--I wonder why?
Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 01:24 AM (XAYDB)
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I think that public education was transitioning from patriotic to globalism when I was in school. Vietnam was NOT discussed almost like it was a shameful secret. I don't remember much about my high school history lessons, and I enjoy history.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 01:30 AM (IDhUW)

624 Brutalism had exactly the same problem as the postmodern stuff. More rigid, less organic but still designed to project the same things. It's a design ethic that prizes ugliness for its own sake.

"This is hideous and alien. We know it. You know it. But you have to accept it. Now say it's pretty, and come inside, or we're say you're a fool."

It's "Michelle Obama Arms." Which is what I'd call my brutalist tower block for housing illegals in Malibu.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 16, 2019 01:31 AM (5aX2M)

625 Good night steve!

I'm out too - good night all.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 16, 2019 01:32 AM (IDhUW)

626 593 My new foster dog!
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y3uwmyj6

Darling

Posted by: Martell at April 16, 2019 01:33 AM (N7J/1)

627 'Night qdpsteve.

Posted by: Surfperch at April 16, 2019 01:34 AM (tVQUs)

628 Good night lovely people.

Posted by: Martell at April 16, 2019 01:34 AM (N7J/1)

629 Good luck on your impending job search. I'm sure someone as talented as you won't stay on the market long.

From your keyboard the God's monitor. Emotional 4 year just visiting or did they move back to town?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 16, 2019 01:35 AM (tUOCc)

630 Cooking a bunch of bacon, house smells delicious.

Posted by: Summer of Love at April 16, 2019 01:35 AM (FJrl0)

631 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 16, 2019 01:31 AM (5aX2M)

Michelle Obama did have great arms. I think what you meant was Michelle Obama's Amazing Fashion Style.

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 01:35 AM (tcwZs)

632 My new foster dog!

LOL!

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 01:37 AM (tcwZs)

633 I will say it was fairly cheap.
Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 01:26 AM (tcwZs)

--Tapas are one of the biggest bargains for a hungry, shoestring tourist. A euro and a half (in 2005) for a hot appetizer and a glass of house wine?

Fantastic.

P.S. Avila is a sight to behold: the walls are of course splendid, and the way the cathedral is integrated into the walls is cool.

Toledo: Like Barcelona, it hosted its own non-Spaniard genius (El Greco), but also an amazing Cathedral with a chapel with the Mozarabic Rite. Did not assist a Mass there, just vespers.

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 01:37 AM (XAYDB)

634 night steve, I think I will follow your excellent example.
Night everyone!

Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 01:38 AM (tcwZs)

635 It has been especially poignant in England (think of those towering "rats in a box" welfare housing projects for the listless and the useless).

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 01:29 AM (XAYDB)

"Council estates." Orwell would be proud.

Posted by: RickZ at April 16, 2019 01:38 AM (Y8PSl)

636 Michelle Obama did have great arms. I think what you meant was Michelle Obama's Amazing Fashion Style.
Posted by: Red-headed 'ette (Tammy) at April 16, 2019 01:35 AM (

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I think she always wanted to stand out and just picked anything that was different. But as 1st Lady, she had some constraints. Now that Jarrett is out office, and Michelle can dress however she wants, she looks like a bad acid trip.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 16, 2019 01:39 AM (5aX2M)

637 'Night, qdp!

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 01:40 AM (XAYDB)

638 Nite Ms T

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 16, 2019 01:40 AM (tUOCc)

639 From your keyboard the God's monitor. Emotional 4 year just visiting or did they move back to town?

Just visiting. He was very excited to come because it meant he could wear shorts!

His mom says she's never moving back here, too hot.

She's right.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at April 16, 2019 01:42 AM (0bu2O)

640 Michelle can dress however she wants, she looks like a bad acid trip.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 16, 2019 01:39 AM (5aX2M)

I thought I saw a Wookiee.

Posted by: Day-Trippin' Tweety Bird at April 16, 2019 01:42 AM (Y8PSl)

641 Goodnight, Horde.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Oub5-p3qSkU

Posted by: Surfperch at April 16, 2019 01:42 AM (tVQUs)

642 642 Goodnight, Horde.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Oub5-p3qSkU
Posted by: Surfperch at April 16, 2019 01:42 AM (tVQUs)

--It's not 1781 again, is it?

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 01:46 AM (XAYDB)

643 Nomination for most soul-crushing brutalist building...

Boston City Hell Hall:

http://tinyurl.com/yxfrfyx7

Off to bed for some nightmares, now.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 16, 2019 01:51 AM (5aX2M)

644 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Oub5-p3qSkU
Posted by: Surfperch at April 16, 2019 01:42 AM (tVQUs)

--It's not 1781 again, is it?
Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 01:46 AM (XAYDB)

For whatever reason Notre Dame burning down brought that song to mind.

Posted by: Surfperch at April 16, 2019 01:54 AM (tVQUs)

645 Goodnight, YD.

Posted by: Surfperch at April 16, 2019 01:56 AM (tVQUs)

646 Good night, Horde.

Posted by: The Lurking Unknown at April 16, 2019 01:56 AM (o2vOl)

647 If parapeligic guy was able to he would have gone racing too. I'm going where he would have spoent the money.

Posted by: Avenatti at April 16, 2019 01:57 AM (Y274z)

648 Goodnight good people of the Horde.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at April 16, 2019 01:58 AM (f8dwL)

649 Great arm, huh?
But can the Wookie control the knuckleball?

Posted by: Burger Chef at April 16, 2019 02:10 AM (RuIsu)

650 >>But can the Wookie control the knuckleball?
Posted by: Burger Chef at April 16, 2019 02:10 AM (RuIsu)>>

Yes.....Yes, I Can control Barry!

Oh......sorry....I thought you said, Can I control the knuckleHEAD.....*resumes shaving facial hair and armpits*

Posted by: Michael 0Bama, FLUCKUS at April 16, 2019 02:21 AM (Bqoi/)

651 > you know, not especially fond of the flying buttress.

I do like flying buttocks sometimes, like those acrobat chicks in the circus who wear the skin-tight spangly leotards.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 16, 2019 02:38 AM (0OWcv)

652 > Michelle Obama did have great arms.

For the arm-wrestling champion in a biker bar.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 16, 2019 02:39 AM (0OWcv)

653 Michelle Obama arm wrestling with Michelle Fields' Ghost Arm.

I'll leave this to the SciFi Anime experts.

Posted by: Miklos, no writer's block here at April 16, 2019 03:10 AM (zCyNd)

654 Well, this thread is done, and the ruins aren't even smoldering.

Posted by: Miklos, Ozymandias-like at April 16, 2019 03:19 AM (zCyNd)

655 Oh, well then I might as well get another 1/2 hour of sleep thhen

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2019 03:33 AM (BbGew)

656 Who am I kidding.
Looking for pictures of Notre Dame from today, Daily Mail has a couple.

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2019 03:40 AM (BbGew)

657 657 Who am I kidding.
Looking for pictures of Notre Dame from today, Daily Mail has a couple.
Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2019 03:40 AM (BbGew)

--*SIGH* what can't the EU Parliament building suffer the same fate?

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 03:51 AM (XAYDB)

658 Many of the statues were removed before renovations began, so there is that at least.

One of the pictures of inside shows the cross still there

Posted by: My life is insanity at April 16, 2019 03:51 AM (Xm8Oy)

659 weaselzippers - powerful symbol from Notre Dame
http://tinyurl.com/y5u7uo5c

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2019 03:52 AM (BbGew)

660 They are now saying that Notre Dame is mainly OK, will need work, though.

Note to Skip-

Don't let them pay you in francs.

Also French Toast in France is called something in French.

But the new Notre Dame climbing wall will be AWESOME

Posted by: Miklos, General of Contractors at April 16, 2019 03:52 AM (zCyNd)

661 Should go get coffee on and put on tv, France 24 will have new I hope.

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2019 03:53 AM (BbGew)

662 Rasheed Tlaib?

I though Rasheed was a boy's name (e.g., former NBAer Rasheed Wallace)?

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 03:55 AM (XAYDB)

663 >>weaselzippers - powerful symbol from Notre Dame
http://tinyurl.com/y5u7uo5c
Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2019 03:52 AM (BbGew)

Beautiful.

Posted by: My life is insanity at April 16, 2019 03:59 AM (Xm8Oy)

664 http://tinyurl.com/y5u7uo5c

I hope to see that image on my Christmas card from Ilhan Omar.

Posted by: Miklos, not really waiting at April 16, 2019 04:05 AM (zCyNd)

665 That would[i/] be a miracle

Posted by: My life is insanity at April 16, 2019 04:13 AM (Xm8Oy)

666 Crap!

Posted by: My life is insanity at April 16, 2019 04:13 AM (Xm8Oy)

667 I had to wait until someone got all 6
I never have

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2019 04:14 AM (BbGew)

668 BREAKING

SkipCorp [NYSE SKP] up 1538% on rumors of roofing contract in Paris

Posted by: MiklosMarkets at April 16, 2019 04:22 AM (zCyNd)

669 Thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 16, 2019 04:27 AM (ycWCI)

670 americanthinker mourning Notre Dame
http://tinyurl.com/y5burlmt

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2019 04:27 AM (BbGew)

671 I never new I had a corporation, the accountant probably has been embezzling the funds.

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2019 04:41 AM (BbGew)

672 I wonder is that book for afterlife sex for Muzzies?

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2019 04:42 AM (BbGew)

673 I never new I had a corporation, the accountant probably has been embezzling the funds.
Posted by: Skip

The Avenatti Accounting Service?

Posted by: Bruce at April 16, 2019 04:43 AM (LAt9N)

674 I'm off.

Have a great day, all. Don't take another day for granted.

Posted by: My life is insanity at April 16, 2019 04:48 AM (Xm8Oy)

675 My cat has taken up kneading before settling down on my lap, and she has never been unarmed.

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2019 04:51 AM (BbGew)

676 Mueller's report is getting released on Thursday, Leftists are getting hopes up again the smoking gun for Trump/ Russia is in there.

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2019 04:55 AM (BbGew)

677 Mueller's report is getting released on Thursday, Leftists are getting hopes up again the smoking gun for Trump/ Russia is in there.
Posted by: Skip

It'll be interesting as to how quickly the Orangemanbad Brigade will be able to read 400 pages and screaming "ARGLBARGL!!"
My bet would be a half hour

Posted by: Bruce at April 16, 2019 04:58 AM (LAt9N)

678 thelasttradition.com
http://tinyurl.com/y25hs5ow
Close up of altar showing candlesticks are still standing

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2019 05:03 AM (BbGew)

679 VDH
http://tinyurl.com/y2s5pecr
Are There any Limits to Illegal Immigration?

A very good read, he describes how California is becoming Mexico

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2019 05:11 AM (BbGew)

680 Got to go
Have a great day everyone

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2019 05:35 AM (BbGew)

681 Found this good 4 minute report on the effectiveness of the border wall in San Diego:

https://youtu.be/u5uROtA7tSw

Interesting to see where the new wall stops abrupty... its complete open beyond 14 miles west of shore. I believe that because its a nature preserve but once both primary and secondary walls are up all along Tijuana... crossings are probably going to jump much higher in preserver stretch, brining litter and other enviro degradation.

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 16, 2019 05:35 AM (Xqo6t)

682 I see on the sidebar that, on Thursday, we get an extra 30 minutes of not watching Seth Meyers. Can't complain about that.

Also, what is the point of Brie Larson? The best comment I've seen on xer last movie was that it should have been called "Waiting for Gadot".

Posted by: Eeyore at April 16, 2019 05:36 AM (VaN/j)

683 677 Mueller's report is getting released on Thursday, Leftists are getting hopes up again the smoking gun for Trump/ Russia is in there.
Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2019 04:55 AM (BbGew)

They'll make one up if it isn't there.

I think Rush said that their current play is trying to say that Mifsud is the Smoking Gun.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 16, 2019 05:41 AM (pgXNG)

684 On Trump and Alinsky, it's natural. That particular side of Trump - the way he is constantly throwing them off balance - has always reminded me of my father. My brother agrees. And the funny thing is that, while he and I figured it out early, my mother and sisters never did.

We used to refer to it as "Gaslighting" back in the 60s, long before that became a common term. Dad's theory was that women, like the Russians (and the MSM) beat you with attrition warfare. And winning a big battle here and there doesn't really counter that. So the only successful tactic is constantly keeping them off balance.

It works if you can handle the strife.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 16, 2019 05:44 AM (VaN/j)

685 As usual, the on the ONT - uniquely among Ace posts - it's pretty much impossible to quote from the OP. I've never really gotten that. And of course it's the one I read over my first cup.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 16, 2019 05:47 AM (VaN/j)

686 @Miklos...

You blew the margins. Don't do that again. It's not rocket surgery!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 16, 2019 05:48 AM (wYseH)

687 $0 due, $0 back.

Of course it's easy when you're retired.

It depends on the size of the refunds, but for small ones it suspect most people see it as being like when you put cash aside for a while, for a future purchase or spree. But of course, normally that's not a year.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 16, 2019 05:54 AM (VaN/j)

688 687 $0 due, $0 back.

Of course it's easy when you're retired.

It depends on the size of the refunds, but for small ones it suspect most people see it as being like when you put cash aside for a while, for a future purchase or spree. But of course, normally that's not a year.
Posted by: Eeyore at April 16, 2019 05:54 AM (VaN/j)

Doesn't mean that the majority of people here aren't going to call them idiots for not investing it during the course of the year instead.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 16, 2019 05:56 AM (pgXNG)

689 ALSO...

...I'm sick of this mentality I'm starting to see on Twitter and in other places when it comes to the likes of Bro-Fo and Donkey Chompers.

"Somebody said something mean about them, therefore we have to pass every single policy they advocate for to show we don't support that mean comment!"

People are f***ing stupid.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 16, 2019 05:57 AM (pgXNG)

690 ...I'm sick of this mentality I'm starting to see on Twitter and in other places when it comes to the likes of Bro-Fo and Donkey Chompers.

"Somebody said something mean about them, therefore we have to pass every single policy they advocate for to show we don't support that mean comment!"

People are f***ing stupid.
Posted by: Hikaru

The same people that think that Trump! shouldn't be president because he didn't win the popular vote, think the 16000 that voted for AOC should make be able to make all the new laws

Posted by: Bruce at April 16, 2019 06:00 AM (LAt9N)

691 584
The Parisiennes were showing some pretty decent religious flavor as Notre Dame burned. i was surprised to see so many pics of people kneeling in prayer
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 16, 2019 01:00 AM (tUOCc)
______

Rosaries today, broadswords tomorrow.

OK, I don't KNOW that some people did something. But what I do know is that if they did, the media and pols would try to hide that.

And on architecture, I'm still pissed about the Scruton affair. There should have been more about it around conservative media. It pretty much encapsulates the situation; lefty media lies and establishment trans-conservatives caving.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 16, 2019 06:02 AM (VaN/j)

692
Good
Morning Morons

Posted by: Vic at April 16, 2019 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

693 Morning Vic!

Posted by: Bruce at April 16, 2019 06:04 AM (LAt9N)

694 688
Doesn't mean that the majority of people here aren't going to call them idiots for not investing it during the course of the year instead.
Posted by: Hikaru at April 16, 2019 05:56 AM (pgXNG)
______

And they've got a point. My wife's birthday is late in the month, and so for a few weeks I stick cash in a pocked in my wallet for the splurge. That's a few weeks. As a year-long policy, it's insane.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 16, 2019 06:08 AM (VaN/j)

695 *SIGH* what can't the EU Parliament building suffer the same fate?

Posted by: logprof at April 16, 2019 03:51 AM (XAYDB)

Or looking at that pic of the Boston City Hall.....It needs a good fire to make it look better.

Posted by: Colin at April 16, 2019 06:09 AM (De9bx)

696 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 16, 2019 06:09 AM (u82oZ)

697 Good morning, Vic.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 16, 2019 06:11 AM (u82oZ)

698 Notre Damn -- If Pope Francis had better media skills he'd scramble to change plans and have Easter mass at Notre Damn. Clean and secure the site well enough to have an intimate mass for a small group of local Catholics.

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 16, 2019 06:13 AM (Xqo6t)

699 Good Morning

Posted by: wing at April 16, 2019 06:13 AM (JFzNN)

700 The gullibility of man is a theme in the excellent book The Intellectuals by Paul Johnson. He makes the point to show how people like Rousseau, who claimed to love humanity, hated many, many people. And was mentally ill, if a good writer.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 16, 2019 06:14 AM (u82oZ)

701 698 Notre Damn -- If Pope Francis had better media skills he'd scramble to change plans and have Easter mass at Notre Damn. Clean and secure the site well enough to have an intimate mass for a small group of local Catholics.
Posted by: Serious Cat at April 16, 2019 06:13 AM (Xqo6t)
______

The Scarecrow sang a song about that.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 16, 2019 06:15 AM (VaN/j)

702 Serious Cat

You answered your own statement. Pope Francis is not that smart. But there may be a Cardinal that gets it.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 16, 2019 06:16 AM (u82oZ)

703 I gotta whisper to Mike: Pssst, the reason so many employers are obsessed with applicants having a bachelor's degree is that they're forbidden to hire on the basis of I.Q. tests by the SJW SCOTUS.
Posted by: logprof

We have technicians with 2 year degrees who have done the job for more than a decade and who fill in during engineering staff turnover but that our HR department won't give engineering jobs to because they don't have a 4 year degree. Lately, the techs just started saying they can't help temporarily because they aren't qualified and already have their own jobs to do.

Posted by: Downcast at April 16, 2019 06:20 AM (2p/I6)

704 Hikaru

I have argues more than most with Leftists. They are beyond Reason, so part of a religion.

Notice there is no debate, just attempt to shut us down.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 16, 2019 06:20 AM (u82oZ)

705 Downcast

One of the many cultural items that made America great was the pragmatic examination: Can he do the job? Not "What credentials" he has.

The Left has been pretty canny here.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 16, 2019 06:23 AM (u82oZ)

706 Some cocksuking lowlife sheepdipped weasel broke into my truck and stole a pistol. Hope he shoots his dick off playing with it and it hits is crack whore girlfriend in the head.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 16, 2019 06:23 AM (JFO2v)

707 Have a great day, everyone. Need an early start today.

May you be blessed by Spring's unfolding beauty, and may pollen we washed away by gentle rains.

And tpo of the morning to VIA when he shows up.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 16, 2019 06:25 AM (u82oZ)

708 700 The gullibility of man is a theme in the excellent book The Intellectuals by Paul Johnson. He makes the point to show how people like Rousseau, who claimed to love humanity, hated many, many people. And was mentally ill, if a good writer.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 16, 2019 06:14 AM (u82oZ)

I don't know if there needs to be a whole book to explain that to people.

That's always been obvious to me.

And I'm an idiot with Genetically Low IQ.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 16, 2019 06:25 AM (pgXNG)

709 And tpo of the morning to VIA when he shows up.

Shouldn't that be "typo of the morning"?

Posted by: Hugh Tootooie at April 16, 2019 06:27 AM (hu22E)

710 Re: lunar landers
I remember how hard the old Atari "Lunar Lander" game was, and I wondered why the ship didn't just harpoon the moon and reel itself down slowly against the retro rockets.

Posted by: Downcast at April 16, 2019 06:29 AM (2p/I6)

711 Ben Shapiro and Ben Sasse both describe Assange as a terrible person. So he's got that going for him.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 16, 2019 06:30 AM (rnAwa)

712 Doesn't mean that the majority of people here aren't going to call them idiots for not investing it during the course of the year instead.
Posted by: Hikaru at April 16, 2019 05:56 AM (pgXNG)
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I would never call someone an idiot for doing that. Sure, it's better not to get a refund, but for people who know they wouldn't save during the year it's a way of forced savings. Usually people that count on their refund are young and wouldn't really be investing anyway, just spending.

Posted by: bluebell at April 16, 2019 06:30 AM (aXucN)

713 G'morning, Salty.

Little VIA just called from Palma, so we were talking.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 16, 2019 06:36 AM (cqNba)

714 712 I would never call someone an idiot for doing that. Sure, it's better not to get a refund, but for people who know they wouldn't save during the year it's a way of forced savings. Usually people that count on their refund are young and wouldn't really be investing anyway, just spending.
Posted by: bluebell at April 16, 2019 06:30 AM (aXucN)

I don't necessarily think people are idiots for not having an investment portfolio. I don't have one myself.

But I absolutely expect 99.9% of the Horde to call me an idiot for not having one.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 16, 2019 06:41 AM (pgXNG)

715 2nd attempt hiya

Posted by: JT at April 16, 2019 06:46 AM (mf/Cl)

716 But I absolutely expect 99.9% of the Horde to call me an idiot for not having one.
Posted by: Hikaru at April 16, 2019 06:41 AM (pgXNG)
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Of course they wouldn't! I sincerely doubt that 99.9% of the Horde has one themselves. We all do the best we can, but of course basic needs must be filled and many times there's not much left over beyond that. I tell my kids that if you can direct a little bit of each paycheck directly into savings and leave it there, that's a great start.

Posted by: bluebell at April 16, 2019 06:47 AM (aXucN)

717 Hiya JT!

Posted by: bluebell at April 16, 2019 06:48 AM (aXucN)

718 What is unseen:

A devotional on Easter preparations and blessings:

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 16, 2019 06:53 AM (FSPNP)

719 718 link

http://tinyurl.com/yxp9o6b6

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 16, 2019 06:54 AM (FSPNP)

720 Hiya Bluebell !

Happy Holy Week !

Posted by: JT at April 16, 2019 06:56 AM (mf/Cl)

721 Some real Tax Stats for Bernie and Bros (2016 most current year)

Ail income taxes paid
$1,446,047,984,000
Paid by Adjusted Gross Income over $100k
$1,157,534,262,000

A bit over 80%.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 16, 2019 06:57 AM (JFO2v)

722 God will pass over you.

A devotional from the International Fellowswhip of Christian and Jews:

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 16, 2019 06:59 AM (FSPNP)

723 jumpy computer

link for 722:

http://tinyurl.com/yyxr44qj

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 16, 2019 07:00 AM (FSPNP)

724

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 16, 2019 07:15 AM (GEhPL)

725 In the latest democrat primary poll four white guys lead the pack. The top two are two old rich white guys.

That is gonna leave a mark!

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 16, 2019 07:15 AM (JUOKG)

726 725>>>

Watching the media shift from Commie-La to Mayor Buttsex has been interesting.

Did Jussie sink her? Or are they just keeping her out of the spotlight in hopes that people forget about her connection to him?

Posted by: Hikaru at April 16, 2019 07:17 AM (rlDdK)

727 WeldMania: It's Coming

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 16, 2019 07:18 AM (oVJmc)

728 So, what's the next Christian icon in Europe that's going to accidentally burn down?

Posted by: JuJuBee at April 16, 2019 07:18 AM (aBR7R)

729 Buttplug = Beto + Gay

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 16, 2019 07:19 AM (oVJmc)

730 728>>>

All of them.

Islam has won.

Charles Martel ain't walking through that door.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 16, 2019 07:21 AM (rlDdK)

731 727 WeldMania: It's Coming
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 16, 2019 07:18 AM (oVJmc)

I watched the video. I was WTF is this guy saying? PDT bad man. OK. That aint policy or ideas.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 16, 2019 07:22 AM (JFO2v)

732 Macron VOWS to rebuild Notre Dame....that's a relief thought the lil girly man will take forever.

Posted by: saf at April 16, 2019 07:27 AM (5IHGB)

733 Mornin', y'all.

I mentioned Sat. that wife got home after 2 weeks in hospital at Barnes in StL after having a Whipple operation. Well, it seems she sprung a leak and they transported her back to Barnes last nite around 2:30a.
She was in inpatient rehab at our local hospital. Prayers much appreciated.

Posted by: olddog in mo at April 16, 2019 07:28 AM (Dhht7)

734 NOOD Morning Report

Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 16, 2019 07:29 AM (+/7JY)

735 I watched the video. I was WTF is this guy saying? PDT bad man. OK. That aint policy or ideas.
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 16, 2019 07:22 AM (JFO2v)

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Weld's basic argument is that implementing the policies you ran on as a campaigner is destructive to democracy.

Posted by: MAGA at April 16, 2019 07:31 AM (I5LRE)

736 Prayers sent, olddog.

Posted by: IrishEi at April 16, 2019 07:32 AM (NtglE)

737 tablet sign in

Posted by: andycanuck at April 16, 2019 08:57 AM (Dh1wo)

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