Sunday Morning Book Thread 04-07-2019

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Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, and everybody who's holding your beer. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, writing, and publishing by escaped oafs who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which can't be worn any other way but ironically.

(h/t bluebell)


Pic Note

Not sure which library or reading room this is. I lifted the photo from this page which says "Defence Studies Department, King's College London", but I couldn't pin it down any further.

Update:

139 I did a Googular search and apparently this is the Royal Canadian Military Institute (hence the flag):

http://www.eraarch.ca/project/royal-canadian-military-institute/

(click on photo of this library on the right)

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 10:02 AM (kQs4Y)


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

EPICARICACY is enjoyment taken from other people’s misfortunes.

Usage: With the collapse of the Smollett hate hoax, the Weekly Standard going TU, the Mueller investigation laying a goose egg, and the Green New Deal held up for the ridicule it deserves, Donald Trump is making epicaricacy great again!

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(h/t Jacquie)


Mirror, Mirror

When I came of (political) age in the early 80s, Colorado was a solidly reliable red state. This is no longer true. This week, I was made aware of The Blueprint: How the Democrats Won Colorado (and Why Republicans Everywhere Should Care) that describes how it was done:

Since 2004, Colorado has been recognized by both parties as a laboratory for the most sophisticated political organizations in the country. The book is a behind-the-scenes look at the inner workings of these organizations, drawing on interviews with the key personalities involved as well as research and analysis of extensive public records. In a highly readable and entertaining fashion, the authors dissect the dynamics that led to the transformation of Colorado from a solidly Republican to a solidly Democratic state.

Which sounds mighty grim. On the other hand, there's this: The Fall of Wisconsin: The Conservative Conquest of a Progressive Bastion and the Future of American Politics. From the title, we may infer it was written by a progressive who (obviously) who is lamenting what he perceives to be Wisconsin's shift to the right. As one of the Amazon reviewers wrote:

This book is a great example of the way rigorous, long-form journalism can help understand developments that neither the regular news cycle nor academic research gets to. "The Fall of Wisconsin" is not just deeply researched and reported but also beautifully written, with a powerful personal touch. As it weaves together a broad ranges of stories going all the way from the nineteenth century to the present, this book makes three very important points: (1) what we've been seeing in Wisconsin over the past couple years has been in the works for a long time, and is the result of a longstanding strategic effort from the Right; (2) what's happened in Wisconsin will also happen in other states, if it hasn't already; (3) if it wants to undo some of the damage done, the Left (and the Democratic Party in particular) better get its act together--to start with, by reading this book and taking its lessons to heart.

It's interesting that these two books appear to be mirror images of each other. But if both are true, then we're just swapping statea. I hate to lose Colorado, but Wisconsin is a good pick-up. Even though I don't think our hold on Wisconsin is as tight as the latter book might suggest. After all, it's *Republicans* we're talking about here. They can find a way to lose a poetry contest to the Vogons.

The 45-minute YouTube documentary, Rocky Mountain Heist, probably covers much of the same ground as the first book.
first book.


Moron Recommendations

Lurkette Jane from Maine e-mails to tell me about an author she recently discovered:

I've been reading books for more than 50 years; it's my favorite thing to do.

In the last year I found the books of British author Penelope Fitzgerald.

She published her first novel in 1977, when she was 60 years old.

My favorite so far is The Bookshop: "a town that lacks a bookshop isn't always a town that wants one."

It's the story of a once-invisible woman who dares to start her own small business, a bookshop, in a small town where the culture is closely guarded by its leading lights.

What I love about Penelope Fitzgerald's writing is its brevity. Every word matters. Images are beautifully conveyed without long passages of description that amount to little more than word diarrhea, meant to show the author's cleverness.

Despite starting her writing career late in her life, Ms. Fitzgerald wrote quite a few books. But only the one Jane mentions, The Bookshop, was ever adapted for film.

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228 Disinformation: Former Spy Chief Reveals Secret Strategies for Undermining Freedom by Ion Mihai Pacepa and Ronald J. Richland

Deeply interesting dive into the methods of the KGB and their lie factory in Moscow. As told by the highest level defector to the us in the 1970s the head of the Romanian Secret Police.

Describes the slander of Pope Pius XII as Hitler's stooge when he was known as a smuggler of Jews out of Europe during the war. All because he stood up to Stalin. The first two times they tried this smear By Stalin and Khrushchev it was laughed out of the debate by he witnesses who had direct knowledge of the facts. But in the 70s with Brezhnev and the Soviet agent histories she in the west the witnesses had aged and died out and the media was all to eager to believe the lie written by the massive KGB lie machine in Moscow.

More stories are presented, enjoy.

Posted by: Dread0 at March 24, 2019 10:53 AM (Bptbo)

The Amazon blurb is too lengthy to quote here. But one of its points is that disinformation == fake news:

By its very nature, a disinformation campaign can work only if the seemingly independent Western press accepts intentionally fabricated lies and presents them to the public as truth. Thus, Pacepa and Rychlak also document how the U.S. mainstream media's enduring sympathy for all things liberal-left has made it vulnerable to--indeed, the prime carrier of--civilization-transforming campaigns of lying, defamation and historical revisionism that turn reality on its head.

"Gee, I'm completely shocked that our media could be used as a conduit for commie propaganda" said no Moron, ever. Of course, there's a line between being a clueless dupe and a willing participant. At some point, the bear has to ask Brian Stelter, "you're not here for the hunting, are you?"

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Lurker 'Tailgunner Sam' e-mails a recommendation for Mohammed & Charlemagne Revisited: The History of a Controversy:

I’m a lurker ...the reference to the Tim Holland history book made me think of this thought provoking work by Emmett Scott that builds upon the work of the Belgian Historian Henri Pirenne who posited the rise of Islam was to blame for the “dark ages” not the Germanic tribes. The archaeological record supports the case. Discovered it while researching the canard that all civilization / food in Sicily etc. came from Moslems.

So, if I'm understanding the ebb and flow of the discussion, it's like this:

Old and busted: Rome was destroyed by western barbarian hordes.

Pirenne's revision: Rome was destroyed by Islamic barbarian hordes.

reaction to Pirenne: those Islamic hordes were beneficial and Rome was already busted by the time they showed up on the scene. Also, Rome was destroyed by Goths and Vandals.

Emmet Scott: No, actually, Pirenne was right.

I'd like to hear boulder terlit hobo weigh in on this. This is his area of expertise.

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Bookstore Engagement

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More photos in the "bookstore engagement" series here. Hopefully, the couple with love books as much as they love each other.


Books By Morons

One of the new authors I heard from, but didn't get to, last week is Declan Finn, an who has written so many books that I don't really know where to start. So I'll start by highlighting the one at the top of the list he e-mailed me, which is his Saint Tommy series, the first novel of which is Hell Spawn. I'm not sure what genre you would call this. 'Supernatural thriller', perhaps:

Officer Thomas Nolan is a saint. He can smell evil. He's forgiving to the lesser criminals who are merely desperate, and even the felons he puts away tend to like him. But when a serial killer wages war on the city, he's going to face the darkness on more levels than he can imagine. Because this killer leaves a stench Nolan can follow a mile away. But proving it is going to be a problem: because how do you do forensics on a killer possessed by a demon?

Finn has written other series I think are worth looking it, such as The Pius Trilogy (actually 5 books), and the Dragon Award (2016) nominated, 4-book Love At First Bite series. I would classify these as supernatural horror infused with a stiff dose of Roman Catholicism, and by that I mean traditional Roman Catholicism, not the namby-pamby long-hair liberal guitar Mass kind.

Most of the books are priced $2.99-$4.99.

Update: Just got an e-mail from Mr. Finn late last night with a couple of pieces of good news. The first is that he has just released Vol. 4 of the Saint Tommy, NYPD series. The second bit is that the Kindle editions of the first 3 are on sale for 99 cents each, today and tomorrow. Here are the links:

1. Hell Spawn
2. Death Cult
3. Infernal Affairs
4. City of Shadows

I included #4 because it also appears to be selling for 99 cents even though Mr. Finn did not explicitly say so in his e-mail.

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Author James Cambias emailed me earlier this week and asked me to pimp his new novel Arkad's World:

Young Arkad is the only human on a distant world, on his own among beings from across the Galaxy. His struggle to survive on the lawless streets of an alien city is disrupted by the arrival of three humans: an eccentric historian named Jacob, a superhuman cyborg girl called Baichi, and a mysterious ex-spy known as Ree. They seek a priceless treasure which might free Earth from alien domination. Arkad risks everything to join them on an incredible quest halfway across the planet. With his help they cross the fantastic landscape, battling pirates, mercenaries, bizarre creatures, vicious bandits and the harsh environment. But the deadliest danger comes from treachery and betrayal within the group as dark secrets and hidden loyalties come to light.

Available for purchase on Amazon, or directly from Baen, for a couple of bucks more.

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The bio on Henry Brown's Amazon author page is pretty funny:

Henry Brown was born to a fierce Mongol chieftain and a mighty Viking warrior-queen who were promptly kidnapped by alien wargamers from another dimension, leaving him to be raised by wolves on the frozen steppes.

Trapped in an avalanche caused by a tremendous meteor strike and frozen alive, he stood in suspended animation as the centuries passed until a team of nubile swimsuit model archaeologists rescued him in 2010, nursed him back to peak health, fell in love with him, bought him a state-of-the-art underground lair complete with mad scientist laboratory hidden on an uncharted subtropical island, and now cater to his every whim while he devises diabolical schemes of world domination.

True story.

Oh yeah: in his spare time, he writes fiction.

Because what this world needs is more teams of nubile swimsuit model archaeologists.

But what does Harry Brown write? Military fiction, mostly. His Retreads series starts out with Hell and Gone:

This rag-tag gang of has-beens has never worked together before, but Dwight "Rocco" Cavarra has less than a week to train them and lead them on the hairiest operation of their lives. It's not bad enough that they have to plow through an African civil war, infiltrate a fortified terrorist encampment and steal a black market tactical nuke from a mob of fanatic sociopaths - there are Israeli wild cards in play: two death-dealing Mossad agents who don't necessarily share Cavarra's agenda. When the mission is compromised before it has even started, Rocco and his Retreads are caught between bloodthirsty local warlords and the genocidal government in a fight to the death. And this battle might be just the first in the next world war.

Hell and Gone is a character-driven pulp action thriller that will take you on a wild ride.

The Kindle price is $4.97. The series continues with Tier Zero and False Flag.

Brown is also the author of a short novel, The Greater Good:

Infinite crises are going to waste! Greedy businessmen are making profits! Insensitive hatemongers are trying to make it against the law to be an illegal alien! People are harboring intolerant thoughts, while others are abusing freedom of speech to broadcast incorrect opinions!

The world has never known such need for a new narrative to neuter the nefarious network of neanderthal neo-fascists knocking at the noble ramparts of progress.

In a nutshell, the world needs a national agency of superheroes who know that now and then it's necessary to negate a few nugatory individual rights for the sake of the greater good.

( *ghostly chanting* ): "The Greater Good".

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Moron author Max Cossack tells me he has a new one out:

I’ve just published a new novel Zarah’s Fire.

Zarah’s Fire continues the story begun in Khaybar, Minnesota: A young girl (Zarah) escapes from the terrorists and traffickers who have kidnapped her and taken her thousands of miles from home. In her desperate flight across a treacherous foreign desert, she must overcome blistering summer heat, hunger, thirst, and predators while evading her kidnappers and their allies among narcotraffickers. Meanwhile, friends unknown to her struggle to find her and save her.

One aspect of the novel of special interest to morons is its realistic depiction of the way terrorists--as well as traffickers in both narcotics and human beings—infest the area near Arizona’s border with Mexico. I know what I’m writing about. I live here!

The Kindle version of Zarah's Fire (The Wilder Bunch Book 2) is $9.99. This is the sequel to Max's first novel, Khaybar, Minnesota:

Islamist terrorists frame small town Minnesotan Nat “Hack” Wilder for the murder of his friend Amir Mohammad. Hack must survive a January blizzard, elude the police and F.B.I., track down the real killers, infiltrate a terrorist gathering, and stop a terrorist attack on his nine-year-old daughter’s school. This is a suspenseful fast-paced action thriller that is often disturbing, sometimes surprisingly funny, and always PC-indifferent.

Also $9.99.


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Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads. It's meant to support horde writers and to talk about the great books that come up on the book thread. It's called AoSHQ Moron Horde and the link to it is here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.


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1 Tolle Lege

Posted by: Skip at April 07, 2019 09:01 AM (BbGew)

2 Hola!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 09:02 AM (kQs4Y)

3



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the the Paper Magician. Strange Book.






Now
on the first book of W. E. B. Griffin's Army series.

Posted by: Vic at April 07, 2019 09:02 AM (mpXpK)

4 Corgi dutifully called, now my work is done as I have nothing new

Posted by: Skip at April 07, 2019 09:02 AM (BbGew)

5 Why does King's College have a painting of Ricardo Montalban?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 09:03 AM (kQs4Y)

6 EPICARICACY is enjoyment taken from other people's misfortunes.


The fuck it is.

Posted by: Schadenfreude at April 07, 2019 09:03 AM (fuK7c)

7 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. Hope everyone had a great week of reading despite the siren song of not freezing weather drawing us outside.

Posted by: JTB at April 07, 2019 09:04 AM (bmdz3)

8 5 Because Khan was a king?

Posted by: Skip at April 07, 2019 09:04 AM (BbGew)

9 With my cornea trans I am still a little behind on book reading, so I listen on kindle. I have unlimited so I find books that are included and have the free audio. On to Kendra Elliot Bones series.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 07, 2019 09:05 AM (JFO2v)

10 Those pants are fine. I would wear the to barbeque in my backyard.

Posted by: Mohammad at April 07, 2019 09:06 AM (UdKB7)

11 'Those pants' are both intriguing (didn't notice any underwear) and bizarre. But I can't help wonder how bad the waffle butt will be if she sits down.

Posted by: JTB at April 07, 2019 09:07 AM (bmdz3)

12 I'm still reading “Liberty’s Last Stand”. Such fun! President Soetoro and his cabinet have grand plans for invading the Republic of Texas and bringing it to heel but just don’t understand logistics, or maintenance, or really anything practical. They also don’t get the concept of a volunteer military, or that the oath sworn was to uphold and defend the Constitution and not his presidency. Even the most kissass generals are at their wit’s end.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 09:07 AM (kQs4Y)

13 Those are the kind of chairs in which world-historical decisions are made.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 07, 2019 09:07 AM (EZebt)

14 I would like to inspect the pants, as modeled, more closely.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 07, 2019 09:07 AM (fuK7c)

15 I WANT that reading room. All it lacks is a foot rest, a small wet bar and my pipes and a humidor of pressed Virginia tobacco. I would be good for many hours.

Posted by: JTB at April 07, 2019 09:09 AM (bmdz3)

16 Willowed, of course...

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Good Morning, Horde.

I can't find anything recent on the possible recount in the WI Supreme Court election. I think we're past the 3 day deadline.

Anybody heard anything?


Posted by: davidt at April 07, 2019 09:00 AM (b0VXl)

Posted by: davidt at April 07, 2019 09:09 AM (b0VXl)

17 Read "The Gurkhas" by Byron Farwell. Published in 1984 it's an outstanding history of the Gurkhas. Britains first major encounter with them was during the Anglo-Nepalese War (1814-16). They were so impressed with the Gurkhas that before the war was over the British East India Company, which then controlled India, had recruited many of them. Most Gurkhas come from 4 tribes from the hill country of the Gorkha/Katmandu area in Nepal and for 200 years they have loyally served the British Crown. First as mercenaries for the British East India Company, then after the Indian Mutiny of 1857 (when the Crown took control of India) the British Indian Army. After India's Independence in 1947 about a third would stay with the British Army.

Gurkhas are not supermen. But they do like to fight (especially with their Kukris knives), will follow their orders, have an earthy and at times macabre sense of humor, and are tough. During 1890 in India's NE Frontier Lt. R.R. Swinton was leading his Gurkhas when they were attacked. His orderly Gorey Thapa (what a cool name) received a minor injury when he was shot in the head. Unfortunately the bullet ricocheted and hit Swinton killing him.

Gurkhas practice Hinduism with a mix of Buddism, Animism, and a few other isms. Their favorite festival is Dashera (or Durga-puja) when Mahishashura (a demon with a buffalo head) was defeated by the goddess Durga (one of the forms of the god Shiva's wife, another being Kali. I think. It's all a bit confusing). Basically it's a 10 day party with eating, singing, drinking, dancing, young men dressing up as women, and concluding with lopping the head off a buffalo.

Over time they have become more westernized to include Scout and Brownie troops. Farwell writes: For those unfamiliar with Gurkhas, it was perhaps startling to see charming, giggling Nepalese Brownies in uniform with representations of the murderous crossed Kukris as their cap badge.

I have a Gurkha Kukris and someday I want these two too.
http://tinyurl.com/y69atskb
http://tinyurl.com/y36u8ful

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at April 07, 2019 09:10 AM (TDyHc)

18 We don't know that Obama ever molested collies but we also don't know that he didn't. Can we really afford not to know?

Posted by: Alternate universe MSM at April 07, 2019 09:10 AM (e58od)

19 Book Thread! BOOK thread! book THREAD! BOOK THREAD!!!

Booken Morgen, Horden.

Posted by: votermom tired from taking migraine med at April 07, 2019 09:11 AM (dm05u)

20 Here's a word for today: "Loser"

As in lovable loser, like Cub's fans at Miller Park. There are never any melee's like this when other teams come to town, only the Cubs.

Any Cubbie fans want to explain this behavior?

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2019/04/06/brawl-breaks-out-miller-park/3387731002/

Posted by: Pete Seria at April 07, 2019 09:11 AM (7ZQe3)

21 Thanks for letting us know about Declan Finn's new release, City of Shadows. I found the first three in his Saint Tommy, NYPD excellent, and I've been looking forward to this new release.

Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at April 07, 2019 09:11 AM (1pQvR)

22 My book group finished "The Haunting of Hill House" by Shirley Jackson and, for such a short book, it generated a lot of discussion. There's a lot that happens in the book that can be taken multiple ways but the consensus that we arrived at was that Eleanor, or Nell, was quite cuckoo and everything weird was told from her perspective. But the book is really kind of a classic of its genre and surely was a major influence on idiot Stephen King when he wrote The Shining, one of the last things of his I read before taking the fuck him pledge.

My iPad is acting hinky today, rebooting frequently, so I'm splitting up the other stuff I'm reading so I don't inadvertently lose a really long comment.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 07, 2019 09:12 AM (y7DUB)

23 Love that "It's not hoarding" photo. How true. There is no such thing as too many books, just insufficient horizontal space.

Posted by: JTB at April 07, 2019 09:12 AM (bmdz3)

24 Not much reading last week. Still hacking my way through Gibbon.

The anti-Christian animus really breaks up the flow of his writing. He's starting to get a groove on, and then has to stop and show everyone how Smart and Not Superstitious he is.

We get it, Ed. This is Book Four. We totally get it.

Drove to Illinois and back Friday and Saturday. Especially near Springfield, I came to understand that Michigan's roads actually aren't the worst I've ever driven.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 09:12 AM (cfSRQ)

25 That's Duke Wellington in the painting, isn't it?

Posted by: votermom tired from taking migraine med at April 07, 2019 09:13 AM (dm05u)

26 Farwell's a great military-history writer in general. I loved his book The Great War in Africa, about WWI's most bizarre theater of operations. His chapter "The Real African Queen" about the Royal Navy's campaign on the Lakes, is like a cross between Heart of Darkness, Fitzcarraldo, and Apocalypse Now. (And maybe Tootsie.)

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 07, 2019 09:13 AM (cePPf)

27 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes.

Nothing new to read at the moment, and anyway, I'm still trying to settle in at this new job.

I'm rereading The Old Farmer's Almanac Sampler from 1957. It's a collection of aphorisms, jokes, stories and other ephemera from the time of the Almanac's founding in 1793 up to the time of the book's printing. Here's a quote that's apropos to this thread:

Books are masters who instruct us without rods or ferrules, without words or anger, without bread or money. If you approach them, they are not asleep; if you seek them, they do not hide; if you blunder, they do not scold; if you are ignorant, they do not laugh at you.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 07, 2019 09:13 AM (Ki5SV)

28 Started the Walt Longmire mystery series by Craig Johnson. The first book is "The Cold Dish", set in fictional Absaroka County (real life Johnson County) in N.E. Wyoming near the Big Horn Mountains. The first person narrative by Sheriff Longmire is a hoot as is the banter with his longtime friend Henry Standing Bear and his feisty and potty mouthed deputy Victoria "Vic" Moretti.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at April 07, 2019 09:13 AM (TDyHc)

29 I read Trade Winds by M. M. Kaye which was recommended here a few weeks ago. This is the story of a woman who comes to Zanzibar from Boston in the 1850's. She is full of self righteousness, wanting to do good deeds, and ready to reform the local culture. She is caught up in a revolt against the Sultan, has to deal with a plague epidemic, and becomes the one who is changed. This is not only a good story, but one learns about the history and politics of Zanzibar.

I also read Tiamat's Wrath by James S. A. Corey (Daniel Abraham and Ty Franch). This is the recently published eighth novel in the Expanse series. The series is a great space opera, and in this book the underground resistance fights the Laconian Empire which dominates all of known space. Lurking in the background is an unknown Alien force out to kill all of humankind. There is fast-paced action throughout the book, and the book moves the overall story along.

Posted by: Zoltan at April 07, 2019 09:14 AM (8jlwn)

30 Well now I realize why I hadn't read rushdie before shalimar the clown which is loosely based on events in Kashmir in the 60s and 70s, I glanced at his last attempt at magical realism the golden house with a fmr gangster becoming a New York property magnate,

Posted by: Admiral marcus at April 07, 2019 09:14 AM (OP+PJ)

31 Back in the 70s the Pirenne Thesis was being debated. I still have a book of essays disputing it. But it seemed clear that the correct call was "up to a point". That's the usual result in history. The alternative is "BS", which you sometimes come across. Well, nowadays, more than sometimes.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 09:15 AM (VaN/j)

32 More photos in the "bookstore engagement" series here. Hopefully, the couple with love books as much as they love each other.

"The Big Book of Asset Protection"
"Pre-Nups for Dummies"
"Paternity Testing and You"

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 09:16 AM (NWiLs)

33 29
I read Trade Winds by M. M. Kaye which was recommended here a few weeks
ago. This is the story of a woman who comes to Zanzibar from Boston in
the 1850's. She is full of self righteousness, wanting to do good deeds,
and ready to reform the local culture. She is caught up in a revolt
against the Sultan, has to deal with a plague epidemic, and becomes the
one who is changed. This is not only a good story, but one learns about
the history and politics of Zanzibar.


Posted by: Zoltan at April 07, 2019 09:14 AM (8jlwn)

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For a darker (and hilarious) version of something similar to this, try Evelyn Waugh's Black Mischief.

You can thank me later.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 09:16 AM (cfSRQ)

34 Why use an English word when using a foreign word makes you sound sophisticated? E.g. My fiance' instead of my intended.

Posted by: JAS at April 07, 2019 09:16 AM (KOCKb)

35 Finished reading - Unplanned - fast,interesting read.

Also read Death in Londinium and the sequel Games in Londinium by John Drake. I LOVE that the characters think like people of their era might, and are not modern characters in period costume. Thanks to the Moron who recommended them.

Currently mid way through Uncharted by Kevin J. Anderson & Sarah Hoyt.


Posted by: votermom tired from taking migraine med at April 07, 2019 09:18 AM (dm05u)

36 I need to create an instant image of myself so I can find the time to read The Expanse series beyond the first volume, which I really enjoyed. Can some of you techie morons get on that? Thanks in advance.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 07, 2019 09:18 AM (y7DUB)

37 Because the accents show up as black diamonds with question marks on them...

Posted by: navybrat, mostly lurking, occasionally chiming in at April 07, 2019 09:18 AM (w7KSn)

38 Must hie me to Church.

Currently reading 'The Invention That Changed The World'. A bit pretentious as a title, as it might refer to any number of things, but in this case, it is the development of radar at the onset of and during in WWII.

Very well researched and detailed, simultaneously very readable. As always, it is the people who are the real story.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 07, 2019 09:18 AM (2kj6M)

39 Farwell's Gurkas is probably his best. And I have several of them. They are universally enjoyable.

Somewhat along the same lines is Frasier's The General Danced at Dawn, which I liked more than Flashman. It's about service in the Middle East, in a Scots regiment, right after WWII. It includes the line, addressed to soldiers arrested for getting drunk and fighting sailors, "The Navy fought on our side in the war." Loved that.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 09:18 AM (VaN/j)

40 24 That is often said of Gibbon and probably the best reason I haven't tried that slog.

Question - Getting a book from Amazon but comes from a book house anywhere in the country does it work the same as getting it from Amazon?
So far only have bought directly from Amazon, and would like a hard copy not e-book.

Posted by: Skip at April 07, 2019 09:19 AM (BbGew)

41 So my novella begins in the 60s at the tale end of the Aden emergency thr British bugout equivalence to Vietnam and Algeria the protagonist is a remember of one of the storied units that patrolled the colonies for generations that reclaimed the former coalinga station and sadly the foreign office had them relinquish it again a story that echoes to this day in the treatment of forces from Ireland to iraq.

Posted by: Admiral marcus at April 07, 2019 09:20 AM (OP+PJ)

42 "You Are NOT the Father! A Man's Guide to Paternity Fraud"

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 09:20 AM (NWiLs)

43 Made a used-bookstore raid this week and scored some interesting titles: I got H. Beam Piper's Space Viking, which somehow I never got around to reading, plus a collection of his short stories. Also a Tom Wolfe collection, and -- the "what the hell" selection -- a translation of Alexandre Dumas's Dictionnaire de Cuisine. If you've ever seen a photo of Big Al, you know he was a man who spent a lot of time at the table, and apparently he considered himself an authority on food. Best sentence so far, in the entry for "Dressings":

"We think that this is the right time to tell the story of the Chevalier d'Albignac, who made his fortune in London by dressing salads."

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 07, 2019 09:20 AM (cePPf)

44 Today is the start of Library Week.

Check out a book by a favorite author (helps to keep it on their shelf) and one by a new author.

Posted by: votermom tired from taking migraine med at April 07, 2019 09:21 AM (dm05u)

45 I've been reading "A NAVAL HISTORY OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION" by Gardener Allen, 1913. Coincidentally, I was at the part about the Battle of Savannah when it was announced last week that General Casimir Pulaski was declared have been a woman by some bint at the University of Georgia.

Pulaski was a Polish nobleman who came over to help with the Revolution. He was mortally wounded at Savannah and taken aboard the Continental warship "Wasp" where he died and was presumably buried at sea. This "scholar" dug up some bones that appear to be female at his monument in Savannah and has decided that they are Pulaski's remains.

In honor of this I have composed a limerick:
( sorry Muldoon )

Revolutionary General Pulaski
Ben Franklin asked to "help please"
As Washington's friend
The policy begins
Of don't tell, and don't ask ye

Posted by: freaked at April 07, 2019 09:21 AM (UdKB7)

46 I got through volume 3 to keep up with the syfy series, and then lost interest.

Posted by: Admiral marcus at April 07, 2019 09:21 AM (OP+PJ)

47 So are we back to old, pre-Nurse R. Insomniac?

Ah well, that brief respite was nice...

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 09:22 AM (kQs4Y)

48 If, like me, you enjoy Victorian-era English composers, there is a new recording of Sir Arthur Sullivan's oratorio The Light of the World, which has garnered high critical praise. I'm a little disappointed that it's not out on the Chandos label (who have previously recorded the composer's The Prodigal Son and The Golden Legend), since they seemed to be setting themselves up as a reviver of Sullivan's "serious" music.

I haven't listened to it yet, but will be ordering it soon. I like Sullivan.

http://tinyurl.com/y6hcdbuo

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 07, 2019 09:22 AM (Ki5SV)

49 Question - Getting a book from Amazon but comes from
a book house anywhere in the country does it work the same as getting
it from Amazon?

So far only have bought directly from Amazon, and would like a hard copy not e-book.

Posted by: Skip at April 07, 2019 09:19 AM (BbGew)

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Yep. I don't buy e-books, only tangible ones.

By the way, all of my books are also available in paperback on Amazon, though sometimes there's a separate listing.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 09:22 AM (cfSRQ)

50 Finished 'Comrade Don Camillo' this week. The most surprising bit of the book was Guareschi's afterword-- a bit sad, a bit depressed over the state Italy had come to following the war. Apologies for the length, but I thought it was rather poignant and very much a snapshot of a time. Guareschi, a devout Catholic and a staunch antiCommunist, would have been a Moron:

"A Note from the Author

This book - the latest of the series of The Little World of Don Camillo - was published in installments in the last fourteen issues (1959) of Candido, the Milanese weekly which I founded in 1945 and which played a propaganda role of recognized value in the important general election of 1948, when it contributed to the defeat of the Communist ticket.

Candido is no longer in existence. It suspended publication in 1962, chiefly because the Italians of the 'economic miracle' and the 'opening to the Left' have lost all interest in the anti-communist struggle. The present generation of Italians is made up of 'purists', that is, of conscientious objectors, anti-nationalists, and do-gooders. It grew up in the school of political corruption, of neo-realist films and of the sexual-sociological literature of Left-wing writers. It is not a generation at all, but a degeneration.

What a wonderful place was the poverty-stricken Italy of 1945! We came back from the starvation of the Nazi prison camps to find our country a heap of rubble. But through the ruins in which so many innocent victims had died a fresh breeze of hope was blowing. What a difference there is between the material poverty of 1945 and the spiritual poverty of the newly rich of 1963! The wind that blows among the skyscrapers of the 'economic miracle' stinks of sex and sewerage and death. In the prosperous dolce-vita Italy all hope of a better world is dead. There is only an unholy mixture of hell and holy water, as we face a new generation of priests who are no brothers of Don Camillo.

In the newly rich Red Italy Candido could not survive, and indeed it died. And the story which came out in installments in 1959, although it lives on because of the vitality of its characters, is out-of-date. Its essentially light-hearted quarrel with Communism is understandable only in the light of the time at which it was written.

The reader may at this point object: 'If the attitude towards Communism has changed and your story is out-of-date, then why didn't you bury it in the tomb of Candido?' To which I reply: 'Because some few people have not changed their attitude and I have an obligation of loyalty towards them.'

I dedicate my story to the American soldiers who died in Korea, the last brave defenders of the besieged West, to them and to their dear ones, who have some reason to hold to their opinions.

Likewise I dedicate it to the Italian soldiers who died in Russia and to the sixty-three thousand of them who were shut up in Soviet prison-camps and of whose fate nothing is known. To them in particular I dedicate the chapter entitled Three Stalks of Wheat.

I dedicate it further to the three hundred priests who were assassinated by the Communists in the province of Emilia during the bloody days of Italy's 'liberation', and to the late Pope Pius XII, who blasted Communists and their accomplices. And to the Primate of Hungary, the indomitable Cardinal Mindzenty and to the heroically martyred Church of his country. To all of these I dedicate the chapter entitled Christ's Secret Agent.

The last chapter, A Story That Has No End, I dedicate to the late Pope John XXIII. This is not only for obvious reasons but also (if the reader will forgive me) for a motive of a very personal nature. After Pope John died in June 1963, the statements issued by public figures the world over included one from Vincent Auriol, the socialist president of France when Pope John was Apostolic Nuncio to Paris. In this statement Auriol said (and I quote him verbatim): 'On New Year's Day of 1952, mindful of my disputes with the mayor and the parish priest of my town, he sent me as a present a book by Guareschi, The Little World of Don Camillo, with these words on the flyleaf: "To Monsieur Vincent Auriol, president of the French Republic, for his amusement and for his spiritual profit, from J. Roncalli, Apostolic Nuncio.'"

The Don Camillo of 1959 is the same as the Don Camillo of 1952, and I have written this story - even if it is out-of-date for the 'amusement' and (forgive my heavy-handedness) for the'spiritual profit' of the few friends I have left in the disjointed world of today.

Roncole-Verdi, August 16 1963

Giovanni Guareschi"

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 07, 2019 09:23 AM (oVJmc)

51 47 So are we back to old, pre-Nurse R. Insomniac?

Ah well, that brief respite was nice...
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 09:22 AM (kQs4Y)

Cynical habits die hard.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 09:23 AM (NWiLs)

52 Link to "A NAVAL HISTORY OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION"

It's free!

Americanrevolution.org/navindex.php

Posted by: freaked at April 07, 2019 09:23 AM (UdKB7)

53 33
For a darker (and hilarious) version of something similar to this, try Evelyn Waugh's Black Mischief.

You can thank me later.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 09:16 AM (cfSRQ)
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Not so good as Black Mischief (or Scoop), but a fun read on an African revolt (1960s) is Russell Kirk's Creature of the Twilight.

Along the same lines, but in the Persian Gulf, is The 92nd Tiger, by Michael Gilbert. The latter is much less funny, though.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 09:23 AM (VaN/j)

54 Why use an English word when using a foreign word makes you sound sophisticated? E.g. My fiance' instead of my intended.
Posted by: JAS
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'My affianced', for that certain je ne sais quois.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 07, 2019 09:23 AM (U2TY5)

55 Question - Getting a book from Amazon but comes from a book house anywhere in the country does it work the same as getting it from Amazon?


Yes. Amazon is an aggregator and a logistics company these days. When they ship from a "partner" it gets billed the same, shipped the same, and you're under the Amazon quality umbrella.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 07, 2019 09:24 AM (fuK7c)

56 That Fraser quote made me think of the Japanese in World War II -- their Army and Navy seem to have viewed each other as the main enemy, with the Americans a distant second.

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 07, 2019 09:25 AM (cePPf)

57 Cynical habits die hard.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 09:23 AM (NWiLs)

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Good thing the nurse didn't share your level of bile.

As the song goes, let it go...

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 09:25 AM (cfSRQ)

58 18 We don't know that Obama ever molested collies but we also don't know that he didn't. Can we really afford not to know?
Posted by: Alternate universe MSM at April 07, 2019 09:10 AM (e58od)
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Of course we know. Biden was busy with the little girls, and SOMEONE had to molest those collies, or the Fundamental Transformation would not occur.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 09:26 AM (VaN/j)

59 "How to Cope with Self-righteous Lecturing"

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 09:27 AM (NWiLs)

60 My book group's current subject is my choice, Serena by Ron Rash. I've read Rash's short stories before and thoroughly enjoyed them, and at least a couple hordlings of the printed word took my advice which was very gratifying. This work is centered, as usual, in western North Carolina, but this is at a logging camp in the late 20s. After the first chapter I'm already hooked. This was recommended by my older daughter; I'm fortunate that both my daughters have reached the age where I can trust their advice on these things while still retaining the paternal prerogative of calling them idiots whenever appropriate.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 07, 2019 09:27 AM (y7DUB)

61 I'm starting The Penkovskiy Papers today. I Picked it up at an antique store and it looked interesting.

Has anyone read it? Is it worth my time?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 07, 2019 09:28 AM (18RAd)

62 Ah yes I'm reminded of a work my grandfather showed me years ago Jan valtins the night that was left behind, valtin is the name of Albert Krug a German union activist in the 20s and 30s who described stalin's war against the social Democrats which yielded Hitlers victory

Posted by: Admiral marcus at April 07, 2019 09:29 AM (OP+PJ)

63 Yay, Booker Thread.

Posted by: Cory Booker at April 07, 2019 09:29 AM (/qEW2)

64 63 Yay, Booker Thread.
Posted by: Cory Booker at April 07, 2019 09:29 AM (/qEW2)

Yeah! Woo hoo!

Posted by: T-Bone at April 07, 2019 09:29 AM (NWiLs)

65 I'm continuing with the "Daily Stoic" each morning. The pieces are brief but they call for some time to cogitate. I'm surprised Stoicism is popular as it emphasizes the individual over the 'group'.

Posted by: JTB at April 07, 2019 09:31 AM (bmdz3)

66 This book - the latest of the series of The Little World of Don Camillo - was published in installments in the last fourteen issues (1959) of Candido, the Milanese weekly which I founded in 1945 and which played a propaganda role of recognized value in the important general election of 1948, when it contributed to the defeat of the Communist ticket.

I've never read this book, but it reminds me of the one-panel cartoon Brother Juniper, by the late Fr Justin McCarthy, which ran from 1958-1989.

http://tinyurl.com/yylq3nmh

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 07, 2019 09:31 AM (Ki5SV)

67 Wrote long ago I want a hard copy of Bernard Fall's Hell in a Very Small Place as I read that in probably 9th grade and want it, it can be gotten used all over so just where from is the question.

Posted by: Skip at April 07, 2019 09:31 AM (BbGew)

68
Why read, when-


you can get woke listening to the brilliance of Donkey Chompers?


Posted by: naturalfake at April 07, 2019 09:32 AM (CRRq9)

69 This was recommended by my older daughter; I'm
fortunate that both my daughters have reached the age where I can trust
their advice on these things while still retaining the paternal
prerogative of calling them idiots whenever appropriate.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 07, 2019 09:27 AM (y7DUB)

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The other day my daughters were laughing at the difference between how I compliment them vs my wife.

My wife will positively gush over their artwork (which is quite advanced, they're all teenagers) or some inventive fiction they wrote. They really are quite talented.

Me? Well, I wasn't really aware of it, but apparently no matter how superlative the effort, I usually nod my head and offer a tepid "Cool." Or "Good job."

I told them that I wasn't going to butter them up and tell them how super special they are. That's mom's job.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 09:32 AM (cfSRQ)

70 So this premature antifascists gunk is just that, remarking on buttigeg fils the gramsci translator at Notre dame it's a shame there isnt as much attention to silone the Italian Orwell who was around in the same period.

Posted by: Admiral marcus at April 07, 2019 09:32 AM (OP+PJ)

71 Bought a few Kindle books lately. Still don't like 'em. The books are okay, but the format just doesn't work for me.

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 07, 2019 09:32 AM (cePPf)

72 65 I'm continuing with the "Daily Stoic" each morning. The pieces are brief but they call for some time to cogitate. I'm surprised Stoicism is popular as it emphasizes the individual over the 'group'.
Posted by: JTB at April 07, 2019 09:31 AM (bmdz3)

That sounds interesting. And like something that should be in a daily email delivery format.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 09:33 AM (NWiLs)

73 67
Wrote long ago I want a hard copy of Bernard Fall's Hell in a Very Small
Place as I read that in probably 9th grade and want it, it can be
gotten used all over so just where from is the question.

Posted by: Skip at April 07, 2019 09:31 AM (BbGew)

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You can get decent used books from Amazon, often quite cheap.

That's how I built up my collection of Waugh and Churchill.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 09:33 AM (cfSRQ)

74 Why use an English word when using a foreign word makes you sound sophisticated? E.g. My fiance' instead of my intended.
Posted by: JAS at April 07, 2019 09:16 AM (KOCKb)


Lots of English is a mash up of other languages. French words have a nicely snotty edge with which to skewer the target; like calling Zuckerberg a parvenu instead of upwardly mobile trash.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 07, 2019 09:33 AM (y7DUB)

75 looked at the bookstore engagement photos

first I didn't know "engagement photos" were a thing

some of the photos were cute, but some looked like a p-rn set up to me actually LOL
(sorry!)

Posted by: votermom tired from taking migraine med at April 07, 2019 09:34 AM (dm05u)

76 Don't forget that England itself was once conquered by the Normans (there wasn't a France yet) and the English weren't even in control of their own language for centuries.

Posted by: navybrat, mostly lurking, occasionally chiming in at April 07, 2019 09:36 AM (w7KSn)

77 50
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 07, 2019 09:23 AM (oVJmc)
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Lord, that takes me back. I read The Little World back around 1970, more or less. I recall I liked it, but haven't looked at it since. I think I've still got it, though.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 09:36 AM (VaN/j)

78 Churchill urged the use of Anglo-Saxon words because they carry more weight and seem more serious.

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 07, 2019 09:36 AM (cePPf)

79 EPICARICACY is enjoyment taken from other people's misfortunes.


The fuck it is.
Posted by: Schadenfreude

I'm always quizzing my kids on the Germanic versus Latin roots of words.

Posted by: Jean at April 07, 2019 09:37 AM (fxkxR)

80 78 Churchill urged the use of Anglo-Saxon words because they carry more weight and seem more serious.
Posted by: Trimegistus at April 07, 2019 09:36 AM (cePPf)

And has punchy, harsh-sounding profanity.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 09:37 AM (NWiLs)

81
Yes. Amazon is an aggregator and a logistics company these days. When they ship from a "partner" it gets billed the same, shipped the same, and you're under the Amazon quality umbrella.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 07, 2019 09:24 AM (fuK7c)


It's a rather brilliant business model that get almost all of the merchandise and their cost right off their books.

Also, a bit of a bait and switch from their earlier model, which is why you can only rarely find good bargains there.

Often, it's (much) cheaper just to buy it from the partner. Depending on the item you're looking for.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 07, 2019 09:38 AM (CRRq9)

82 Just spent $2 kindle credit on the first 2 Saint Tommy books.

Posted by: weirdflunky at April 07, 2019 09:38 AM (GwY6O)

83 Bon Mot from Le Bon's The Psychology of Socialism:

"Democratic institutions are always advantageous to aristocracies of every sort, for which reason these aristocracies must always defend them and prefer them to any other....so we must fully recognize that democracies give rise to castes just as aristocracies do."

Yikes. This was written in 1899(!), but it feels like the elites of the late nineteenth century sure looked a lot like the ones of today.

Posted by: squeakywheel at April 07, 2019 09:38 AM (yKGPl)

84 I'm still reading The American Mind by Henry Commager. It has gotten much more interesting now that he has started to discuss politics and Progressivism at the turn of the 20th C.

Took a break to read Stalag 17 by Donald Bevan and Edmund Trzcinski. The script for the Broadway play produced in 1951 and source for the movie of the same title. Pretty good and the movie tracks the play fairly closely. The German guard is much more menacing in the play and the play has more sexual innuendo. An interesting idea in the play is the the German spy is given furloughs in the guise of escape attempts and he comes back after "being captured." The secondary characters (Animal and Shapiro) are less developed in the play. Another departure from the movie is that the blind drop is a loose brick rather than a chess-piece. The play has no scene changes and all three acts occur inside the POW barrack house. Rating = 4.25/5.

Bevan and Trzcinski were actually POWs in the real Stalag 17 and drew on some their experiences when writing the play.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 07, 2019 09:38 AM (5Yee7)

85 And I meant pere, illustrating the point, ths left still cant get over they were beat in a fair fight in 48, in Italy and in France the previous year.

Posted by: Admiral marcus at April 07, 2019 09:39 AM (OP+PJ)

86 Thanks for the repost of my review I the thread!

As a Coloradan since the 1979s the slouch to the left has been disheartening. Even in the most conservative counties we elect sheriffs who are gun grabbers and school boards of the typical leftists. To be honest, most blame the limitless amounts of out of state money that funnels into the initiative process and local fake news media.

A book recommendation this week is Of Arms and Men a History of Wars, Weapons, and Agression by Robert J. OConnell
Great read about the disruption of new weapons technologies on civilization written in a very readable style.

Posted by: Dread0 at April 07, 2019 09:40 AM (Bptbo)

87 I'm always quizzing my kids on the Germanic versus Latin roots of words.


I would tell students and, on on occasion, the Horde that all of the ancient solid words are German (earth, hearth, house, fire) and all of the ephemeral words (ephemeral) are Latin.

Then some dickhead (CBD) pointed out that ephemeral is Greek. And then I went for a backup word and it's Greek too.

But all of our solid words are Germanic and all of our frilly words come from frilly places.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 07, 2019 09:41 AM (fuK7c)

88 After all, it's *Republicans* we're talking about here. They can find a way to lose a poetry contest to the Vogons.

Hey Republicans, Ah got yer crinkly bindlewurdles right here. *shakes crotch*

Ah need to see my urologist about that.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at April 07, 2019 09:41 AM (/qEW2)

89 I have been wading through a rereading of "A Tale Of Two Cities," and I finished it this week.
I'm glad I read it in my youth, because it gave me a taste of the brutality of proto-socialism. But...there are better Dickens books to be read.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2019 09:41 AM (wYseH)

90 I told them that I wasn't going to butter them up and tell them how super special they are. That's mom's job.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 09:32 AM (cfSRQ)


Exactly and when they get a complement from me it means they've accomplished something far above the mundane. My job is to challenge them which I once did on a long car ride by telling them that unless I suffered a stroke or something similar, I would always know more things in total than either of them. They of course were outraged by that and began peppering me with minutiae about New Kids on the Block (this was a long time ago) and I told them that they would know more in specific areas than me but that the big N would always be larger for me. After prolonged grumbling I think they saw my point; by then we were close to our destination.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 07, 2019 09:42 AM (y7DUB)

91 BTW, Waugh takes a shot at Gibbon in St Helena. Can't quote it because, as usual, I don't know where my copy is. (I'd have guessed the hoarding picture was probably taken at chez Eeyore, but Mrs E is brunette.)

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 09:43 AM (VaN/j)

92 The Pirenne theory is interesting, but I think there are simply far too many obvious flaws in it. For example, the Roman aqueducts weren't cut, thus destroying the City's population for centuries to come, by Islamic fighters - they were destroyed in the Gothic Wars between Gothic Tribes and Byzantium, long before Islam was on the scene. Likewise, those wars decimated the Italian countryside, which also didn't recover for centuries. Likewise, the provinces of Northern Africa (ex: Libya) were destroyed by Beliarius, Justinian's great general, in his conquest of the Vandal Kingdom. A century later, the descendants of the survivors of that war were eager to join up with Islam, if only to show defiance to Byzantium any way they can..

And Pirenne seems to completely ignore the effects of the Byzantine - Sassanid War, which more than anything else made it so easy for Islam to conquer the middle east.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 07, 2019 09:43 AM (V2Yro)

93 But all of our solid words are Germanic and all of our frilly words come from frilly places.

Kind of hard to imagine the language of the Roman legions and the architects of the Roman road system as "frilly."

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 07, 2019 09:43 AM (bZ7mE)

94 Then some dickhead (CBD) pointed out that ephemeral is Greek. And then I went for a backup word and it's Greek too.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 07, 2019 09:41 AM (fuK7c)

I keep warning you about that asshole, but nobody listens!

That shit was beaten into me by Latin, which puts on airs that it is the root of so much, but in reality, the Romans sucked hind teat when it comes to language.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2019 09:44 AM (wYseH)

95 Yes, you can get deals at Amazon. But F**K them. We've decided to cut that cord, even if it costs a few extra bucks.

And my wife found that Walmart's deliver is MUCH better and faster.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 09:44 AM (VaN/j)

96 37 Because the accents show up as black diamonds with question marks on them...
Posted by: navybrat, mostly lurking, occasionally chiming in at April 07, 2019 09:18 AM (w7KSn)


What black diamonds? There are no black diamonds here. You must be hallucinating.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at April 07, 2019 09:44 AM (mO09S)

97 Like this
Fiancé

Posted by: navybrat, mostly lurking, occasionally chiming in at April 07, 2019 09:45 AM (w7KSn)

98 Good Sunday morning horde!

EPICARICACY is enjoyment taken from other peoples misfortunes.

Sounds like it should be enjoyment taken from other peoples cooking misfortunes. Gourmet gone bad, and the like.

Posted by: April at April 07, 2019 09:46 AM (OX9vb)

99 74 Why use an English word when using a foreign word makes you sound sophisticated? E.g. My fiance' instead of my intended.
Posted by: JAS at April 07, 2019 09:16 AM (KOCKb)

Lots of English is a mash up of other languages. French words have a nicely snotty edge with which to skewer the target; like calling Zuckerberg a parvenu instead of upwardly mobile trash.
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 07, 2019 09:33 AM (y7DUB)
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Ever notice that, with farm animals, we use the Saxon derived word when they're in the field, and the French one when they're on the table? Like sheep and mutton, for instance.

Kind of explains itself.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 09:46 AM (VaN/j)

100 94 Then some dickhead (CBD) pointed out that ephemeral is Greek. And then I went for a backup word and it's Greek too.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 07, 2019 09:41 AM (fuK7c)

I keep warning you about that asshole, but nobody listens!

That shit was beaten into me by Latin, which puts on airs that it is the root of so much, but in reality, the Romans sucked hind teat when it comes to language.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2019 09:44 AM (wYseH)


"Greek and Latin are dead languages.
They came from across the sea.
They killed the Greeks and Romans,
And now they're killing me."

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at April 07, 2019 09:47 AM (mO09S)

101 I just got a new computer, and I got the 500 error when I posted that with the appropriate apostrophes.

Can't find auto punctuation in my control panel. Anyone know how to do this on a laptop?

Posted by: April at April 07, 2019 09:47 AM (OX9vb)

102 I would always know more things in total than either
of them. They of course were outraged by that and began peppering me
with minutiae about New Kids on the Block (this was a long time ago) and
I told them that they would know more in specific areas than me but
that the big N would always be larger for me. After prolonged grumbling
I think they saw my point; by then we were close to our destination.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 07, 2019 09:42 AM (y7DUB)

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When my oldest became a teenager, we taught her a mantra. We used to use it more often, but it still comes up from time to time when I make the kids repeat it.

"I'm [current age] years old. I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm going to listen to my father."

Oohh did they hate saying it. But as soon as they did, they'd think about its fundamental truth.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 09:47 AM (cfSRQ)

103 The hind tit is the best tit.

Posted by: Calf at April 07, 2019 09:48 AM (b0VXl)

104 76 Don't forget that England itself was once conquered by the Normans (there wasn't a France yet) and the English weren't even in control of their own language for centuries.
Posted by: navybrat, mostly lurking, occasionally chiming in at April 07, 2019 09:36 AM (w7KSn)
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They had more control than they had given the Britons. In the context of the Saxon invasions, I find their later complaints sound like whining.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 09:48 AM (VaN/j)

105 97 Like this
Posted by: navybrat, mostly lurking, occasionally chiming in at April 07, 2019 09:45 AM (w7KSn)


Like what?

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at April 07, 2019 09:49 AM (mO09S)

106 Aww I see what you did there...

Posted by: navybrat, mostly lurking, occasionally chiming in at April 07, 2019 09:50 AM (w7KSn)

107 Bevan and Trzcinski were actually POWs in the real Stalag 17 and drew on some their experiences when writing the play.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 07, 2019 09:38 AM (5Yee7)
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Yet another storied entry in the multi-volume series: Write What You Know.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 09:50 AM (cfSRQ)

108 I'm glad I read it in my youth, because it gave me a taste of the brutality of proto-socialism. But...there are better Dickens books to be read.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2019 09:41 AM (wYseH)


Have you read Sketches by Boz?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 07, 2019 09:50 AM (Ki5SV)

109 Wait. The comments got an editor?

Posted by: freaked at April 07, 2019 09:51 AM (UdKB7)

110 Liberty's Last Stand is $0.99 today on Kindle. I could go broke buying dollar books for my kindle . . .

Posted by: Catherine in MO at April 07, 2019 09:51 AM (+PvVa)

111 Have you read Sketches by Boz?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 07, 2019 09:50 AM (Ki5SV)

Nope! Never even heard of it. Is it worth a read?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2019 09:52 AM (wYseH)

112 86 Thanks for the repost of my review I the thread!

As a Coloradan since the 1979s the slouch to the left has been disheartening. Even in the most conservative counties we elect sheriffs who are gun grabbers and school boards of the typical leftists. To be honest, most blame the limitless amounts of out of state money that funnels into the initiative process and local fake news media.

A book recommendation this week is Of Arms and Men a History of Wars, Weapons, and Agression by Robert J. OConnell
Great read about the disruption of new weapons technologies on civilization written in a very readable style.
Posted by: Dread0 at April 07, 2019 09:40 AM (Bptbo)
________

Maybe, but I don't trust him. Sacred Vessels was awful; it merited the Perry Mason trifecta, incompetent, irrelevant, and immaterial. (Inaccurate, too.)

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 09:52 AM (VaN/j)

113 The comments got an editor?

Posted by: freaked at April 07, 2019 09:51 AM (UdKB7)

It's one of the many few perks of the coblogger.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2019 09:53 AM (wYseH)

114 109 Wait. The comments got an editor?
Posted by: freaked at April 07, 2019 09:51 AM (UdKB7)


Yes, those of us with cob superpowers.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at April 07, 2019 09:53 AM (mO09S)

115 106 Aww I see what you did there...

Posted by: navybrat, mostly lurking, occasionally chiming in at April 07, 2019 09:50 AM (w7KSn)


( *gaslight* )

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at April 07, 2019 09:53 AM (mO09S)

116 109 Wait. The comments got an editor?
Posted by: freaked at April 07, 2019 09:51 AM (UdKB7)

Not just an editor.

Posted by: Bob from the NSA at April 07, 2019 09:54 AM (NWiLs)

117 There are certain aspects of those pants that induce interest.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 07, 2019 09:55 AM (DMUuz)

118 My errors are just as good as anyone elses how come you never edit me?

Posted by: freaked at April 07, 2019 09:55 AM (UdKB7)

119 Greeks are swishy

Posted by: votermom tired from taking migraine med at April 07, 2019 09:55 AM (dm05u)

120 118 My errors are just as good as anyone elses how come you never edit me?
Posted by: freaked at April 07, 2019 09:55 AM (UdKB7)


Sometimes we edit, sometimes we point and laugh.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at April 07, 2019 09:56 AM (mO09S)

121 Made a used-bookstore raid this week and scored some interesting titles: I got H. Beam Piper's Space Viking, which somehow I never got around to reading, plus a collection of his short stories. ...
Posted by: Trimegistus at April 07, 2019 09:20 AM (cePPf)


Piper is almost always a fun read and he packs some interesting concepts into his novels and stories. He was a amateur historian and I think he subscribed to the "history may not repeat, but it sure does rhyme" school of thought. It has been quite a while since I read Space Viking but I seem to recall it is a re-interpreted telling of the Dark Ages as the human interstellar civilization collapses.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 07, 2019 09:57 AM (5Yee7)

122 Started reading the Tommy Carmellini series by Coonts this week. Good reads.

Fun fact: while in the Army, one of my units taught informal classes on lock-picking. It got competitive. Within weeks, no lock within a mile radius was unscathed. No theft, just obsessive training.

Posted by: Rob at April 07, 2019 09:57 AM (++wBw)

123 I'm almost at the end of book three of Herodotus and Darius is starting to think about turning his attention to the west and fucking around with the Greeks. Some of the dinky island off the coast of Asia Minor were like their own little nation states and at the whim of a major ass kicker could get very insecure real quickly. So diplomacy was very important although offending someone with a huge ego inadvertently was a real potential problem. Oddly some guys with huge nads could end up manipulating their way into favor although that was a very high risk game obviously. Herodotus did an outstanding job of getting all this in written form and any comments by me on things he got really wrong are not meant to diminish his overall accomplishments.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 07, 2019 09:57 AM (y7DUB)

124 I got Liberty's Last Stand for .99 too...
Luckily, Saint Tommy, is included in Kindle Unlimited...

Posted by: lin-duh at April 07, 2019 09:57 AM (UUBmN)

125 92
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 07, 2019 09:43 AM (V2Yro)
______

Pirenne concentrates a lot on France, IIRC, especially trade in Marseilles. (Froggies do that.)

I'll say it again, there's a little to it, but it's way overstated. The Roman world didn't just click off like a light. And the effects varied from place to place. I've noticed though that many of the "continuity" accounts do concentrate on France/Gaul.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 09:57 AM (VaN/j)

126 hiya

Posted by: JT at April 07, 2019 09:58 AM (xDiE+)

127 I'll accept that.

Posted by: freaked at April 07, 2019 09:58 AM (UdKB7)

128 Nope! Never even heard of it. Is it worth a read?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2019 09:52 AM (wYseH)


Absolutely. It's a collection of short stories and vignettes he wrote for different newspapers and magazines in the early 1830s. Many of them are reminiscent of The Pickwick Papers.

http://tinyurl.com/yanleww3

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 07, 2019 09:58 AM (Ki5SV)

129 I'll have to dig out my own copy of the Don Camillo stories - I remember them quite fondly.
I took a look at the Longmire series ... oh, dear $10 for each in Kindle? I'll look for them used in paperback, thanks. This week is the massive NEISD PTA book sale, held every April in the basketball court at the Blossom Recreation center. Every hardback $1, every paperback .50 cents ... and yes, we usually come back with some marvelous finds. Maybe I'll search out the Longmire series there - because I sure as heck am not gonna pay $10 for a Kindle book.
My own books are available on Kindle and other ereaders for much less - well, the Adelsverein Trilogy is $12, but that's because it's three long books stitched together and at the price for all three separately.
Just last night started the 4th Jacob Fletcher book - quite enjoyable!

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at April 07, 2019 09:58 AM (xnmPy)

130 Finishing up "From Bauhaus to Our House" and it reads a lot like Tom Wolfe read "The Fountainhead" and decided to see if Ayn Rand had a point. So far, survey says, "Yes."

Also finishing up "the Battle of the Atlantic" by Samuel Morison.

This is the second of his series I've read and I've kind of had to laugh, because the author points out mistakes without necessarily assigning blame to personalities, though it's quite obvious flaws in doctrine were definitely the result of stupidity in the high command.

Well worth the read, though.

Posted by: Blake - used vacation salesman at April 07, 2019 09:58 AM (WEBkv)

131 Why does King's College have a painting of Ricardo Montalban?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 09:03 AM (kQs4Y)


I want to know why there is a Canadian flag there.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 07, 2019 09:59 AM (mUa7G)

132 some of the photos were cute, but some looked like a p-rn set up to me actually LOL
(sorry!)

Posted by: votermom tired from taking migraine med at April 07, 2019 09:34 AM (dm05u)


I hadn't looked at it that way, but I think you're right. The only thing that saves it is the last photo in the series of the engagement ring,

So it's not pr0n, it's more like a steamy bodice-ripper.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at April 07, 2019 09:59 AM (mO09S)

133 Bevan and Trzcinski were actually POWs in the real Stalag 17 and drew on some their experiences when writing the play.


Trzcinski is in the movie, as the 'I believe it, I believe it' guy...

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 07, 2019 09:59 AM (oVJmc)

134 They had more control than they had given the Britons. In the context of the Saxon invasions, I find their later complaints sound like whining.

Current scholarly consensus is that the Anglo-Saxons just ended up running Britain, with the majority of the Romano-British population remaining more or less where they were. Not a whole lot of evidence for massive population displacement - fields show the same usage patterns for generations right up through the Anglo-Saxon conquest.

The quick disappearance for declensions in English grammar may be due to influence from Welsh, and it turns out that there are a bunch of Welsh loanwords in English once people started looking for them, IIRC.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 07, 2019 09:59 AM (bZ7mE)

135 76 Don't forget that England itself was once conquered by the Normans (there wasn't a France yet) and the English weren't even in control of their own language for centuries.
Posted by: navybrat, mostly lurking, occasionally chiming in at April 07, 2019 09:36 AM

The Plantagenet Kings, descendants of William, required that Norman French be used in all Legal Proceedings well through the 13th century - English was not allowed in Court. Norman French was the variant of Old French spoken by the Normans, and many of our modern legal and military words come from that source. (the Normans having been concerned with those 2 areas above all others)

Most unusual legal words come from Norman French - Bail, Bailiff, Assizes, Attorney, Chattel, Defendant, Plaintiff, Jury, Grand Jury, Larceny, Mortgage, Villain, Parole, Recovery, Remainder, Tort - and that's just a few.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 07, 2019 10:00 AM (V2Yro)

136 Hey, how come no one dates me anymore???
Was it all the patriarchy smashing?
Or that Sean Penn dumped me?
C'mon fellas, give me a go, why don't ya?

Posted by: charlize, shockingly available at April 07, 2019 10:00 AM (w7KSn)

137 * peers into book thread through the window *

So, epicaricacy is English for schadenfreude?



I haven't had a comfortable chair with a good reading lamp anywhere in my house for quite a while. Small wonder I don't read anymore.

Well, that, and the loss of ability to concentrate for very long on boy is it a nice day outside here, even if it's cloudy.

Posted by: mindful webworker - an epicaristocrat at April 07, 2019 10:02 AM (GvEen)

138 Finishing up "From Bauhaus to Our House" and it reads a lot like Tom Wolfe read "The Fountainhead" and decided to see if Ayn Rand had a point. So far, survey says, "Yes."


Oh, I can't get her out of my head when I look at buildings. I might never have noticed anything off about the Boston Customs House, but now all I see is a Greek temple with a 20 story wedding cake on top.

https://bit.ly/2U30yVQ

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 07, 2019 10:02 AM (fuK7c)

139 I did a Googular search and apparently this is the Royal Canadian Military Institute (hence the flag):

http://www.eraarch.ca/project/royal-canadian-military-institute/

(click on photo of this library on the right)

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 10:02 AM (kQs4Y)

140 Using “proper” quotation marks isn't hard, you just need to coöperate with Pixy's capabilities.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 07, 2019 10:03 AM (DMUuz)

141 Wrote long ago I want a hard copy of Bernard Fall's Hell in a Very Small Place as I read that in probably 9th grade and want it, it can be gotten used all over so just where from is the question.
Posted by: Skip at April 07, 2019 09:31 AM (BbGew)


I got mine through a book search conducted on abebooks.com, but blibio.com, ebay and Amazon are all good search tools. I was lucky, mine was a donated copy sold by a "Friends of the ------- Library" and was in almost mint condition for very little money.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 07, 2019 10:03 AM (5Yee7)

142 Oh, Eris, if you're still around - opening this week is The Chaperone, a movie about Louise Brooks before she became famous:

http://tinyurl.com/y29m5ksr

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 07, 2019 10:03 AM (Ki5SV)

143 I'll say it again, there's a little to it, but it's
way overstated. The Roman world didn't just click off like a light. And
the effects varied from place to place. I've noticed though that many of
the "continuity" accounts do concentrate on France/Gaul.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 09:57 AM (VaN/j)

---
One thing that stood out to me when reading Barbara Tuchman's A Distant Mirror last summer is how intensely *local* history used to be.

Subsistence agriculture was the rule for almost all of history. So it didn't matter if the province next door was having a bumper crop if yours failed. Maybe the king or duke (or proconsul in Roman times) would arrange for supplies to be sent, but that was the exception rather than the rule.

So when you read about marauding barbarians, they did lots of mayhem, but only on a tiny tiny front. The English raids during the Hundred Years war were like that. If you were in the path of these guys, your world was wrecked. But that path would only be a few miles wide.

Not to downplay the overall breakdown, but history tends to take the specific and make it universal, especially in classical times.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 10:03 AM (cfSRQ)

144 I brought up some confirmation of some of that famous fellow from halicarnassus in the English review, a tiny state that stood between the great powers.

Posted by: Admiral marcus at April 07, 2019 10:04 AM (OP+PJ)

145 I have been wading through a rereading of "A Tale Of Two Cities," and I finished it this week.
I'm glad I read it in my youth, because it gave me a taste of the brutality of proto-socialism. But...there are better Dickens books to be read.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2019 09:41 AM (wYseH)


Depends on what you're looking for. I'm not the biggest Dickens fan because I think some of his caricatures are too cartoonish and stick figurines but I thought he captured the tone of the French Revolution perfectly in Tale of Two Cities.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 07, 2019 10:04 AM (y7DUB)

146 I can't blow up photo of library to see the name but it could be the Duke very late in life

Posted by: Skip at April 07, 2019 10:05 AM (BbGew)

147 Why does King's College have a painting of Ricardo Montalban?
Posted by: All Hail Eris,

Are ya sure its him ?

Could be Fernando Lamas.

Posted by: JT at April 07, 2019 10:05 AM (xDiE+)

148 Western Rome-- Goths and Vandals
Eastern Rome-- Moslems

Posted by: Vanya at April 07, 2019 10:06 AM (U7voe)

149 ...those pants...

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 07, 2019 09:55 AM (DMUuz)

Yes. I noticed too.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2019 10:06 AM (wYseH)

150 I gotta say, I'm not the bibliophile that many of y'all are but OM's book threads are always quite girthy.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 10:06 AM (NWiLs)

151 They werent gold seeking ants but they were marmots, now thucydides is the one who accepted as the real historian but that's much like accepting Kennedy partisan Maxwell Taylor as the authoritative Vietnam chronicler.

Posted by: Admiral marcus at April 07, 2019 10:07 AM (OP+PJ)

152 Storming pretty good outside. Supposed to go to church at 11, maybe we could just watch the streaming sermon....

Adrienne Lector has written a zombie apocalypse series called Green Fields that I really enjoyed.
James Cook has a great series in this genre too.
Peter Meredith rounds out my 3 favorite authors for end of times type books...

Posted by: lin-duh at April 07, 2019 10:08 AM (UUBmN)

153 66 ... MP4, Thanks for the link to the Brother Juniper cartoons. It's just the kind of gentle humor I need now and then.

Posted by: JTB at April 07, 2019 10:08 AM (bmdz3)

154 Books mentioned that I have read:
Paper Magician: weird, problematic
Serena: so very good
Recently finished: 12 Rules for Life; The Firebird
Desperately slogging through: Winters Tale
New acquisitions: Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy; Hillbilly Elegy; Norse Mythology

Posted by: MMcK at April 07, 2019 10:08 AM (xHxJf)

155 http://tinyurl.com/yanleww3

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 07, 2019 09:58 AM (Ki5SV)

Thanks! Just grabbed it for free on Amazon.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2019 10:08 AM (wYseH)

156 Looked at the pants pic again, pert posterior for the win! Anyway, the model has blue eyebrows....

Posted by: Blake - used vacation salesman at April 07, 2019 10:09 AM (WEBkv)

157 123
I'm almost at the end of book three of Herodotus and Darius is starting
to think about turning his attention to the west and fucking around with
the Greeks. Some of the dinky island off the coast of Asia Minor were
like their own little nation states and at the whim of a major ass
kicker could get very insecure real quickly. So diplomacy was very
important although offending someone with a huge ego inadvertently was a
real potential problem. Oddly some guys with huge nads could end up
manipulating their way into favor although that was a very high risk
game obviously. Herodotus did an outstanding job of getting all this in
written form and any comments by me on things he got really wrong are
not meant to diminish his overall accomplishments.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 07, 2019 09:57 AM (y7DUB)

---
The first time I read him I was impatient to get to the war with the Greeks.

All the background and digressions annoyed my teenage self.

But on the second reading a few years later, I savored all the credulous recitation of legends. I could just see the guy nodding along with the local wag telling him a tall tale, making sure he has it down correctly.

When the movie "300" came out and critics were huffing that it was "ahistorical", I laughed. It's actually *very* historical - if you see the world the way the Greeks saw it. Herodotus has a story about the greatest swimmer of the age who could swim underwater for *miles.*

Too bad they botched the sequel. Salamis would make a great story, especially with Themistocles playing both sides (just in case).


Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 10:09 AM (cfSRQ)

158 Yikes. This was written in 1899(!), but it feels like the elites of the late nineteenth century sure looked a lot like the ones of today.
Posted by: squeakywheel at April 07, 2019 09:38 AM (yKGPl)


Now that I've gotten into the section on politics in 1890s - early 1900s U.S in Commager's The American Mind, I was struck by the same thought.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 07, 2019 10:10 AM (5Yee7)

159 The model has eyebrows?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 07, 2019 10:10 AM (fuK7c)

160 Finally I'm to the point in Nabokov's biography when his short stories are starting to show a hint of his mature powers and would stand on their own as the works of a slightly lesser author quite well. In other words they're not boring me to distraction and aren't for completists only. I have a feeling I'm gonna *really* enjoy some of his early full length fiction.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 07, 2019 10:11 AM (y7DUB)

161 Re: 6--bwahahahaha! Passed some of the morning coffee through my nose laughing. Marvelous.

Posted by: FIIGMO at April 07, 2019 10:11 AM (Qf08A)

162 159 The model has eyebrows?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 07, 2019 10:10 AM (fuK7c)
----------------------

Well, looks like blue to me, but it's probably named something like "aquamarine sunset."

Posted by: Blake - used vacation salesman at April 07, 2019 10:12 AM (WEBkv)

163 Book talk - I don't know if I mentioned that I have decided to pack it in as far as my second Theda Bara novel is concerned. It's been nearly 10 years and I haven't been able to finish the thing. So I've boxed everything up and am starting a new one.

There's a website called The Writers' Bureau, which offers courses on plotting, sales and so on. They had a few posts on how to plot out a book - basically, come up with a one-sentence blurb, expand that into five sentences that cover the high points, expand each of Them into full paragraphs and then keep expanding until you have the plot written out, from which you can start and have it as a road map.

I'd already started a new Bara story; the concept is that an actress who was thought murdered a year ago (though the body was never found) is suddenly seen - alive - by Bara, before ending up dead (again) in her apartment. And before Bara can call the police, the body vanishes.

The time will be 1916 and the location back in NY before the Fox studio moved production to California.

So I'm off now to go back to plot work. I've got an awfully sore throat and can't swallow food right now, so it will do me good to just sit and think.

Hope you all have a lovely weekend.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 07, 2019 10:12 AM (Ki5SV)

164 134 They had more control than they had given the Britons. In the context of the Saxon invasions, I find their later complaints sound like whining.

Current scholarly consensus is that the Anglo-Saxons just ended up running Britain, with the majority of the Romano-British population remaining more or less where they were. Not a whole lot of evidence for massive population displacement - fields show the same usage patterns for generations right up through the Anglo-Saxon conquest.

The quick disappearance for declensions in English grammar may be due to influence from Welsh, and it turns out that there are a bunch of Welsh loanwords in English once people started looking for them, IIRC.
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 07, 2019 09:59 AM (bZ7mE)
_____

Sure, it wasn't the genocide which was implied in my youth. I've read relatively recently that the English are mostly Celts, by DNA. But there is no comparison between the amount of British culture which survived under the Saxons (some influences) vs the Saxon culture that survived under the Normans (a ton.)

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 10:12 AM (VaN/j)

165 Too bad they botched the sequel. Salamis would make a great story, especially with Themistocles playing both sides (just in case).

Salami's highest and best use is on sammiches.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 10:13 AM (NWiLs)

166 1. Hell Spawn
2. Death Cult
3. Infernal Affairs
4. City of Shadows

I'm currently reading #5.) Hillary Runs Again

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 07, 2019 10:13 AM (Ndje9)

167 My 12 year old has discovered Brandon Sanderson...
His books are spendy!! My son is a pretty prolific reader, like I was at his age. This could get out of hand quickly...

Posted by: lin-duh at April 07, 2019 10:13 AM (UUBmN)

168 I thought he captured the tone of the French Revolution perfectly in Tale of Two Cities.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 07, 2019 10:04 AM (y7DUB)

I agree, but I enjoyed some of his other stuff more. "Great Expectations" is my favorite, mostly because of the wonderful exposition of social strata.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2019 10:13 AM (wYseH)

169 So are we back to old, pre-Nurse R

Nurse R is now Calamity Jane.

She'll shoot anything that moves.

Or moos.

Posted by: JT at April 07, 2019 10:14 AM (xDiE+)

170 166 1. Hell Spawn
2. Death Cult
3. Infernal Affairs
4. City of Shadows

Today's Democrat Party

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 10:14 AM (NWiLs)

171 Ah yes rodrigo santoro chewed up miles of screen time, but artemisia of that same town as herodotus was the big rival she is only briefly referenced in the histories.

Posted by: Admiral marcus at April 07, 2019 10:14 AM (OP+PJ)

172 Herodotus has a story about the greatest swimmer of the age who could swim underwater for *miles.*


Pfft. I got a guy could swim miles in chainmail.

Posted by: The Beowulf Skald at April 07, 2019 10:14 AM (fuK7c)

173 169 So are we back to old, pre-Nurse R

Nurse R is now Calamity Jane.

She'll shoot anything that moves.

Or moos.
Posted by: JT at April 07, 2019 10:14 AM (xDiE+)

Shoot the tail feathers off a woodpecker at a hundred yards!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 10:15 AM (NWiLs)

174 So I'm off now to go back to plot work. I've got an
awfully sore throat and can't swallow food right now, so it will do me
good to just sit and think.



Hope you all have a lovely weekend.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 07, 2019 10:12 AM (Ki5SV)

---
Try hot tea with honey and a shot of bourbon. Or the bourbon-infused with honey, if you have it. Works very well.

Also, tasty.

Don't discard your previous book project! I regularly mine my previous abandoned works for ideas, characters and scenes.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 10:15 AM (cfSRQ)

175 165 Too bad they botched the sequel. Salamis would make a great story, especially with Themistocles playing both sides (just in case).

Salami's highest and best use is on sammiches.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 10:13 AM (NWiLs)
_____

No, the best use is the Dance of the Seven Veils.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 10:15 AM (VaN/j)

176 'My affianced', for that certain je ne sais quois.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

You're not from the South, are ya ?

Posted by: JT at April 07, 2019 10:16 AM (xDiE+)

177 72 ... Hi Insomniac,
The Daily Stoic has a website, just search on the name, but I don't know if they offer an automatic email each day. (I like the idea.) I got the kindle book when it was on sale for 1.99

The website does offer more background on Stoicism from the ancients to today's approaches.

Posted by: JTB at April 07, 2019 10:16 AM (bmdz3)

178 Even if it's these pants, which can't be worn any other way but ironically.


*********

These Pants - a limerick

It's a style you might wear when you're older
That color scheme couldn't be bolder
But if you're entertaining
You might have to be explaining
Why you're using them as a pot-holder.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 07, 2019 10:16 AM (m45I2)

179 Nurse R is now Calamity Jane.
She'll shoot anything that moves.
Or moos.
Posted by: JT at April 07, 2019 10:14 AM


But fortunately, not things that peck (yet).

Posted by: Woody at April 07, 2019 10:17 AM (DMUuz)

180 167 My 12 year old has discovered Brandon Sanderson...
His books are spendy!! My son is a pretty prolific reader, like I was at his age. This could get out of hand quickly...
Posted by: lin-duh at April 07, 2019 10:13 AM (UUBmN)

is there no library he can walk to

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 07, 2019 10:17 AM (JFO2v)

181 These Pants - a limerick

It's a style you might wear when you're older
That color scheme couldn't be bolder
But if you're entertaining
You might have to be explaining
Why you're using them as a pot-holder.
Posted by: Muldoon at April 07, 2019 10:16 AM (m45I2)

--------------

I was thinking "trivet" but pot-holder works.

Posted by: Blake - used vacation salesman at April 07, 2019 10:18 AM (WEBkv)

182 Serena: so very good
Desperately slogging through: Winters Tale
New acquisitions: Hillbilly Elegy
Posted by: MMcK at April 07, 2019 10:08 AM (xHxJf)


Thanks on Serena. Winters Tale I ended up liking quite a bit. People elsewhere were really offended by Hillbilly Elegy as the work of a Kevin Williamson who doesn't even pretend to be a conservative.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 07, 2019 10:18 AM (y7DUB)

183 I meant Scop. I used Skald because my lazy brain was denying me its essence.

Posted by: The Beowulf Scop at April 07, 2019 10:19 AM (fuK7c)

184 177 72 ... Hi Insomniac,
The Daily Stoic has a website, just search on the name, but I don't know if they offer an automatic email each day. (I like the idea.) I got the kindle book when it was on sale for 1.99

The website does offer more background on Stoicism from the ancients to today's approaches.
Posted by: JTB at April 07, 2019 10:16 AM (bmdz3)

Thanks, I'll check it out!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 10:19 AM (NWiLs)

185 181 These Pants - a limerick

It's a style you might wear when you're older
That color scheme couldn't be bolder
But if you're entertaining
You might have to be explaining
Why you're using them as a pot-holder.
Posted by: Muldoon at April 07, 2019 10:16 AM (m45I2)

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I was thinking "trivet" but pot-holder works.
Posted by: Blake - used vacation salesman at April 07, 2019 10:18 AM (WEBkv)

"Trivet" doesn't rhyme with "older" or "bolder."

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 10:20 AM (NWiLs)

186 I recall there was an ancient Greek writer who lived only a generation or two after Herodotus who wrote "He isn't the "Father of History", he's the Father of Lies!" So opposition to him has been around for a very long time.

But, in his favor, I saw an archaeological report that backed up something Herodotus wrote in great detail. During his journeys in Egypt, he wrote about daily life there at the time, and he wrote an extensive piece about the construction of one of their many river cargo boats. (apparently it fascinated him) What struck people in later centuries is that it described a type of construction using ribs and interlocking planks that no one had ever seen; and many people said that it just wouldn't work, so Herodotus must have made that up.

A recent dig in deep mud banks near the nile has turned up an almost perfectly preserved cargo boat from the 5th century b.c., and the description from Herodotus appears to have been almost a word for word construction manual for such a boat. A big find, since no one had ever found that style of boat before. (all having been made of fairly soft wood, amazing even one survived) So, a point in favor of the veracity of the tales of Herodotus.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 07, 2019 10:21 AM (V2Yro)

187 Shit, there are so many good comments here but real life is now interceding. In the words of the Terminator I'll be back.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 07, 2019 10:21 AM (y7DUB)

188 rhennigantx,
Nope. We are on the fringe of town...I don't even know where one is around here. His school has one but Sanderson isn't featured prominently.

Posted by: lin-duh at April 07, 2019 10:21 AM (UUBmN)

189 142 Oh, Eris, if you're still around - opening this week is The Chaperone, a movie about Louise Brooks before she became famous:

http://tinyurl.com/y29m5ksr
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 07, 2019 10:03 AM (Ki5SV)
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I'l be on the lookout! I'm curious to see how how she styled herself into that iconic image. Just look at how different the young actress is with her long blonde hair and natural makeup, but give her a dark bob and vampy eyes and Bob's Yer Uncle, there's Louise.

And now I've dug up "A Pictorial History of the Silent Screen" by Daniel Blum, and will be lost for hours.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 10:21 AM (kQs4Y)

190 >>My son is a pretty prolific reader, like I was at his age. This could get out of hand quickly..


What book is he on?

Because he will slow down after Book 5.

Posted by: garrett at April 07, 2019 10:22 AM (ykkL0)

191 I'm reading "Enough of Calvin Trillan." He is an old-school humorist, and, at least during the periods in which he wrote these pieces (its an anthology) he seems to be old-school liberal, with a libertarian bent.

His work is truly literary. And humerous.

Posted by: Ladyl at April 07, 2019 10:23 AM (TdMsT)

192 168 I thought he captured the tone of the French Revolution perfectly in Tale of Two Cities.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 07, 2019 10:04 AM (y7DUB)

I agree, but I enjoyed some of his other stuff more. "Great Expectations" is my favorite, mostly because of the wonderful exposition of social strata.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2019 10:13 AM (wYseH)
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Another reason: for once the main "heroine" is a bitch, which keeps Estella from being as sickening as the usual model. The worst thing in reading Dickens is having to put up with the Doras and Esthers and the like. (Disney had the same tendency, but it's only a problem when she's human. I can handle Lady and Mrs Dumbo.)

But I like the caricatures. Have I mentioned before that he insisted he never made up names? He claimed there really was a Uriah Heep, etc.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 10:23 AM (VaN/j)

193 But - I think I have all the paperbacks up to book 9 or so...

and you are welcome to have them if you want them.

Posted by: garrett at April 07, 2019 10:23 AM (ykkL0)

194 My book group finished "The Haunting of Hill House" by Shirley Jackson

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The cover blurb says soon to be a Netflix movie so all the ghosts will be LGBTQ2S7Come11.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 07, 2019 10:24 AM (+y/Ru)

195 I'm very busy and tired with work but I'm thinking of writing a short essay/post/whatever on a) why read books on history, and b) why in particular concentrate on c) The Fall of the Roman Republic and Empire, and d) The Birth, Ascent, and SLow Decline of Venice.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, who had a B-Wing, and called it Brad at April 07, 2019 10:24 AM (Clxcy)

196 160 Finally I'm to the point in Nabokov's biography when his short stories are starting to show a hint of his mature powers and would stand on their own as the works of a slightly lesser author quite well. In other words they're not boring me to distraction and aren't for completists only. I have a feeling I'm gonna *really* enjoy some of his early full length fiction.
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 07, 2019 10:11 AM (y7DUB)

I've read two Nabokov novels-Lolita and Pale Fire. I preferred the latter.
Nabokov portrays madmen well.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at April 07, 2019 10:25 AM (JgA4k)

197 Sure, it wasn't the genocide which was implied in my youth. I've read relatively recently that the English are mostly Celts, by DNA. But there is no comparison between the amount of British culture which survived under the Saxons (some influences) vs the Saxon culture that survived under the Normans (a ton.)
Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 10:12 AM (VaN/j)

Since most of my relatives from the pure English branch are tall and blonde, from an ancestor who came over to America from the Yorkshire region, I think it's a safe bet as to where a lot of our DNA came from.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 07, 2019 10:26 AM (V2Yro)

198 >>I'm to the point in Nabokov's biography when his short stories are starting to show a hint of his mature powers and would stand on their own


As long as it isn't close to me.

Posted by: Sting at April 07, 2019 10:26 AM (ykkL0)

199 195 I'm very busy and tired with work but I'm thinking of writing a short essay/post/whatever on a) why read books on history, and b) why in particular concentrate on c) The Fall of the Roman Republic and Empire, and d) The Birth, Ascent, and SLow Decline of Venice.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, who had a B-Wing, and called it Brad at April 07, 2019 10:24 AM (Clxcy)

To make it easy to write a first draft of the History of the 21st Century?

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 07, 2019 10:27 AM (V2Yro)

200 I'm not sure what genre you would call this. 'Supernatural thriller', perhaps:
.............

I think they have been labeling this genre - "Urban Fantasy"

Morning!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 07, 2019 10:27 AM (438dO)

201 Another reason: for once the main "heroine" is a
bitch, which keeps Estella from being as sickening as the usual model.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 10:23 AM (VaN/j)

Good point. Many of his female characters make we want to puke. So one-dimensional and sickly-sweet.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2019 10:28 AM (wYseH)

202 I"m back to Ariosto, which I'd misplaced. I do that a lot.

Why is it that sometimes they can pull off a girl warrior, but nowadays it almost never works?

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 10:28 AM (VaN/j)

203 I thought he captured the tone of the French Revolution perfectly in Tale of Two Cities.

**********


WHAT THE DICKENS? - a limerick

A poor starving artist named Smitty
Hired a model whose face was so pretty
He sculpted her bust
(For the money, I trust)
So tawdry, A Sale of Two Titties

Posted by: Muldoon at April 07, 2019 10:28 AM (m45I2)

204 just sent a truck to the IRS not a fully loaded but still a damn nice one

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 07, 2019 10:29 AM (JFO2v)

205 Why use an English word when using a foreign word makes you sound sophisticated? E.g. My fiance' instead of my intended.

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Main squeeze.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 07, 2019 10:29 AM (+y/Ru)

206 I think they have been labeling this genre - "Urban Fantasy"

They rebuilt Detroit ?

Posted by: JT at April 07, 2019 10:30 AM (xDiE+)

207 People elsewhere were really offended by Hillbilly
Elegy as the work of a Kevin Williamson who doesn't even pretend to be a
conservative.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 07, 2019 10:18 AM (y7DUB)

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I haven't read that book but it seems to be of a genre that can be summed up thusly: "I'm not with *those* people."

Rod Dreher is one of these. He flaunts his humble origins but sneers at his kin who didn't get a degree and "make something of themselves." He then expresses puzzlement that they don't like him at reunions.

From the reviews, Hillbilly Elegy is a lot like that, a guy who made it reciting how everyone else is hapless and hopeless and we should take pity on our lesser citizens.

It's akin to the anti-military military guys. These are the folks who enlist in the military but don't like it, never really adopt the credo, but use their service as a blunt weapon to pummel their critics, particularly civilians.

You interview the people who served with them and they uniformly denounce them as a prick who was too good for everyone else. Pat Conroy is a classic example, acting tough because he went to The Citadel but then trashing it in one of his first books.

Speaking of Conroy, his semi-autobiography explained a lot about his writing and the wreck he made of his life.

The Great Santini did nothing wrong.


Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 10:30 AM (cfSRQ)

208 201 Another reason: for once the main "heroine" is a
bitch, which keeps Estella from being as sickening as the usual model.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 10:23 AM (VaN/j)

Good point. Many of his female characters make we want to puke. So one-dimensional and sickly-sweet.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2019 10:28 AM (wYseH)
_______

The last time I read Copperfield, my wife walked into the room and asked why I was smiling. I said, "Dora finally died." I don't want to be dogmatic about it - there are many other candidates - but I do think she's the worst I've come across.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 10:31 AM (VaN/j)

209 I would tell students and, on on occasion, the Horde
that all of the ancient solid words are German (earth, hearth, house,
fire) and all of the ephemeral words (ephemeral) are Latin.


Then some dickhead (CBD) pointed out that ephemeral is Greek. And then I went for a backup word and it's Greek too.


But all of our solid words are Germanic and all of our frilly words come from frilly places.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 07, 2019 09:41 AM (fuK7c)


I am told that the core words in English, the 100 words most used and the ones learned first by children, are all except a couple Saxon derived. The Germanic words were disliked by the Norman nobility as they found them harsh.

Oh, and a Latin substitute for ephemeral would be something like temporary, seasonal, changeable, mutable, or capricious, yes?

Posted by: Kindltot at April 07, 2019 10:32 AM (mUa7G)

210 'Morning readers!

Posted by: Weasel at April 07, 2019 10:32 AM (MAbRE)

211 207
...
It's akin to the anti-military military guys. These are the folks who enlist in the military but don't like it, never really adopt the credo, but use their service as a blunt weapon to pummel their critics, particularly civilians.

You interview the people who served with them and they uniformly denounce them as a prick who was too good for everyone else. Pat Conroy is a classic example, acting tough because he went to The Citadel but then trashing it in one of his first books.


Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 10:30 AM (cfSRQ)
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Got a call from my brother Friday, and he thinks Buttplug will prove to be one. He compared him with John Kerry.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 10:33 AM (VaN/j)

212 Posted by: Ladyl at April 07, 2019 10:23 AM (TdMsT)

I used to love reading Calvin Trillin's columns.

I still remember his suggestion for a tourism ad campaign: "New Jersey: Not Nearly As Bad As You May Have Been Led to Believe".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 10:33 AM (kQs4Y)

213 197 Sure, it wasn't the genocide which was implied in my youth. I've read relatively recently that the English are mostly Celts, by DNA. But there is no comparison between the amount of British culture which survived under the Saxons (some influences) vs the Saxon culture that survived under the Normans (a ton.)
Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 10:12 AM (VaN/j)

Since most of my relatives from the pure English branch are tall and blonde, from an ancestor who came over to America from the Yorkshire region, I think it's a safe bet as to where a lot of our DNA came from.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 07, 2019 10:26 AM (V2Yro)
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Don't forget the Danes.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 10:34 AM (VaN/j)

214 But I like the caricatures. Have I mentioned before
that he insisted he never made up names? He claimed there really was a
Uriah Heep, etc.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 10:23 AM (VaN/j)

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The thing about Dickens isn't that people don't have those names, it's that they have the name AND a role to match.

That's why when you have Petraeus' mistress named "Broadwell," it's Dickensian.

It's the early version of all of James Bond's babes having suggestive names.

Evelyn Waugh to it to its logical extreme with Lady Metroland, Lord Copper, Lord Zinc, etc.

Which is why Waugh is brilliant.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 10:35 AM (cfSRQ)

215 Arkad's World, seems to remind me of citizen of the Galaxy.


The IPad issue try holding the home and power button and do a hard reboot, mine did the same thing just randomly rebooting.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at April 07, 2019 10:35 AM (dKiJG)

216 Question: What's the deal with the links in the sigs which go to "acecomments"? I get the ones that take you to a page, but not these. Click it, you go right back to where you are.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 10:37 AM (VaN/j)

217 lin-duh

Austin Public Library has both hard copy and ebook Brandon Sandersons available--with a wait list, but may be free if you are in the city. (I pay for a membership, but it's worth it, even if it is the City of Austin.)

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at April 07, 2019 10:38 AM (S+f+m)

218 111 ... "Have you read Sketches by Boz?
Nope! Never even heard of it. Is it worth a read?"

CBD, Another vote for Sketches by Boz. I'm not a huge Dickens fan but the sketches were fun and interesting. Kindle versions sell for 99 cents. I splurged on the $1.99 edition to get the originals illustrations that went with the stories.

Posted by: JTB at April 07, 2019 10:38 AM (bmdz3)

219 A recent dig in deep mud banks near the nile has
turned up an almost perfectly preserved cargo boat from the 5th century
b.c., and the description from Herodotus appears to have been almost a
word for word construction manual for such a boat. A big find, since
no one had ever found that style of boat before. (all having been made
of fairly soft wood, amazing even one survived) So, a point in favor of
the veracity of the tales of Herodotus.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 07, 2019 10:21 AM (V2Yro)

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That's cool.

There's so much we really don't know about history. I think the DNA testing is going to really shock people. There's long been a theory that some of the American Indians came from the West, not the East.

Wouldn't that upset some apple carts?

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 10:39 AM (cfSRQ)

220 Question: What's the deal with the links in the sigs which go to "acecomments"? I get the ones that take you to a page, but not these. Click it, you go right back to where you are.
Posted by: Eeyore

........

I have wondered the same, Eeyore.

Makes no sense.. but I've seen this for years.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 07, 2019 10:40 AM (438dO)

221 Got a call from my brother Friday, and he thinks Buttplug will prove to be one. He compared him with John Kerry.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 10:33 AM (VaN/j)

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Yeah, Kerry's one of those.

You know who else is one? David French.

He wasn't a soldier, he was a lawyer and his job was to prosecute (or defend) GIs who ran afoul of the UCMJ. He brags about military service, but a few years ago when zombie tv shows were new and fresh, he opined that the US military would immediately collapse into fear and uselessness.

He thought that because his entire experience of it was on the criminal justice side, dealing with screw-ups.

He loves to brag about his "service in Iraq," but it's not like he carried a rifle on patrol. It was a resume enhancer for him and he's milking it to death.

Oh, and does anyone else remember the strict rules he put on his wife to ensure she wouldn't cheat on him? Hilarious.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 10:43 AM (cfSRQ)

222 >>Question: What's the deal with the links in the sigs which go to "acecomments"? I get the ones that take you to a page, but not these. Click it, you go right back to where you are.


That's how you activate the Time Machine settings.

Did you check the clock after you clicked the link? You might be right where you started, but when are you there? - hmmm?

Posted by: garrett at April 07, 2019 10:43 AM (ykkL0)

223 Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 10:35 AM (cfSRQ)
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Trollop had Lord Stayne and Dolly Longstaff. In Peake's Gormenghast trilogy we have Titus Groan and his sister Fuschia, the plotter Steerpike, Dr. Prunesquallor, Professors Fluke, Shrivell, and Perch-Prism, Headmaster Deadyawn, and others equaly Dickensian.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 10:44 AM (kQs4Y)

224 Epicaricacy? I like the word Schadenfreude better, maybe because my grandfather's stepmother was German.

Posted by: Pete in TX at April 07, 2019 10:44 AM (2RBkF)

225 @A H Lloyd: I showed my wife your article on Claudius vs GoT. She's currently binging on the latter (I watch a little, but can't get into it). But she wholly agreed that Livia would crush Cersei like a bug, and is now determined to go through, first Rome, and then CLAVDIVS. I'll watch more of Rome than Got (newsreader, after all), but all of Claudius.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 10:45 AM (VaN/j)

226 Winters Tale I ended up liking quite a bit. People elsewhere were really offended by Hillbilly Elegy ...
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 07, 2019 10:18 AM

Thanks on both. I will stick with Winters Tale for the language; just gorgeous.
Will keep an open mind on Hillbilly Elegy.

Also: Haunting of Hill House is one of those books I still think about long after reading. There is a lot to unpack there.

Posted by: MMcK at April 07, 2019 10:46 AM (xHxJf)

227 I prefer the word schadenfreude, because epicaricaboner just doesn't sound right.

Posted by: PabloD at April 07, 2019 10:48 AM (nV7q3)

228 I'm continuing with my reading of history and historical matters. Still going with the Landmark Herodotus and it's still slow going because I get lost in the weeds of all those maps and footnotes. Thank goodness for a good magnifying glass.

Also, I've been reading about colonial and early American exploration west of the Appalachians. For some reason, the American settlement of the Old Northwest (Wisconsin, Michigan, and the areas that border the Mississippi) has always been of interest. Fortunately, some excellent journals are available from those times as well as modern compendiums of the history.

Posted by: JTB at April 07, 2019 10:49 AM (bmdz3)

229 A couple of notes:

* British DNA: Keep in mind, the Saxons invaded, but then the Scandinavian brand Vikings invaded a couple hundred years later, and had a whole lot of settlers in places like Anglia and Yorkshire. So in Yorkshire, maybe tall blondes were the original Saxons, or maybe someone later from Denmark or Norway.

* Y'know, I've forgotten why I first started reading about Venice. I guess I thought it would be interesting to read how a bunch of people out in a swamp built what was essentially a new civilization amongst the ruins of an old one.

* Venice at least makes me _aware_ of the various holes in my education. Although I'm an academic failure, I think I've got more historical knowledge than 90% of the general public. It's just that that's not saying much these days. Even in a Decent History Education, we pretty much ignore half the history of the Roman Empire, and seem to have a void from the Fall of Western Rome (A.D. 470's) to where history suppsedly starts again when the Plantagenets disintegrate into the War of the Roses. It's like history starts again when it gets to the parts of English history Shakespeare wrote (possibly inaccurate) plays about.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, who had a B-Wing, and called it Brad at April 07, 2019 10:49 AM (Clxcy)

230 194 My book group finished "The Haunting of Hill House" by Shirley Jackson
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The cover blurb says soon to be a Netflix movie so all the ghosts will be LGBTQ2S7Come11.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 07, 2019 10:24 AM (+y/R


It's a miniseries, I thought it was on Amazon Prime, but I'm probably mistaken on that, and sigh, yes, it conforms to the new regs for mandatory LGBTBBQetc. content.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at April 07, 2019 10:50 AM (mO09S)

231 Fun and indicative names are common. Another of Trollope's Duke of Omium, or Mr Slope, which turns out to have originally been Slop. Squire Allworthy is another example. In the universally Bible-literate 19th C American, Captain Ahab would also be an example.

And of course there are books like Pilgrim's Progress which make no bones about it.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 10:51 AM (VaN/j)

232 225
@A H Lloyd: I showed my wife your article on Claudius vs GoT. She's
currently binging on the latter (I watch a little, but can't get into
it). But she wholly agreed that Livia would crush Cersei like a bug, and
is now determined to go through, first Rome, and then CLAVDIVS. I'll
watch more of Rome than Got (newsreader, after all), but all of
Claudius.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 10:45 AM (VaN/j)

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HBO's Rome was okay. Not great, though. Has the same issue as GoT with gratuitous sex.

Yes, Livia is wonderful. Her speech to Lucius' friend is one of the best examples of enlightened villainy ever put on film.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 10:52 AM (cfSRQ)

233 What's the deal with the links in the sigs which go
to "acecomments"?

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 10:37 AM (VaN/j)

I think it's some weird unintended consequence. If there are any characters or spaces in the last field, then it will sometimes generate what you are seeing. Put your cursor in the "URL" field and lean on the delete key for a few seconds. That will get rid of whatever may be causing it.

Or not. You may have to sacrifice a chicken and read its intestines for further guidance.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2019 10:52 AM (wYseH)

234 I'm tired of autocucumber mis-correcting words. It's humorous, not humerous. Aaaarrrgghhhh!

Posted by: Ladyl at April 07, 2019 10:53 AM (TdMsT)

235 BTW, don't forget where the Normans came from. They hadn't been in France all that long. Post Arthur, it's Teutons all the way down.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 10:54 AM (VaN/j)

236 It's a miniseries, I thought it was on Amazon Prime,
but I'm probably mistaken on that, and sigh, yes, it conforms to the
new regs for mandatory LGBTBBQetc. content.


Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader Pants Monitor at April 07, 2019 10:50 AM (mO09S)

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Aren't there many film adaptations for this? I think my wife has assiduously watched them all.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 10:54 AM (cfSRQ)

237 163 ... MP4,
I hope you can continue with the Theda Bara stories. I really enjoyed the first one.

Posted by: JTB at April 07, 2019 10:54 AM (bmdz3)

238 I was poking around the King's College webpage and found this link with lots of interesting articles:

https://defenceindepth.co/2018/01/15/give-war-history-a-chance/

There is a sidebar on the right with different categories.

I'm going to start with "Amphetamines and the Second World War", of course. (Why is it under the WWI column?)


Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 10:54 AM (kQs4Y)

239 After watching Rome on HBO I was convinced that Rome really needed to fall. My ancestors were serious assholes.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 07, 2019 10:55 AM (9Om/r)

240 Acht is German for eight
Fracht is their word for freight
Salmon is Lachs
Buechse is box
It's the same but never quite straight

Posted by: The Beowulf Scop at April 07, 2019 10:55 AM (fuK7c)

241 I'm going to start with "Amphetamines and the Second World War", of course. (Why is it under the WWI column?)

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 10:54 AM (kQs4Y)

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They had the need, the need for speed.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 10:55 AM (cfSRQ)

242 234 I'm tired of autocucumber mis-correcting words. It's humorous, not humerous. Aaaarrrgghhhh!
Posted by: Ladyl at April 07, 2019 10:53 AM (TdMsT)
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But it's more humorous with "humerus"!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 10:56 AM (kQs4Y)

243 descoping

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 07, 2019 10:57 AM (fuK7c)

244 Or not. You may have to sacrifice a chicken and read its intestines for further guidance.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2019 10:52 AM (wYseH)

Just like an economist.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 10:58 AM (NWiLs)

245 Now why on earth would the gal in that "not hoarding" pic dye the roots on that blonde hair so dark?

Read Prelude to Foundation, Foundation, and am into The Mule section of Foundation and Empire over the last week.
Am rediscovering why it's years since I've read them.

For me anyway, as prolific as he was, Asimov wasn't really all that and a cup of covfefe.

Not that I'd even be in the same galaxy as he if I was to try but to my tastes, he was no Frank Herbert.

And caught you auto-c. Tried to change Frank to Crank on me didn'tcha.

Question for smart folks,,, "safe site" you can upload a photo to then provide a link to photo?

Posted by: teej at April 07, 2019 10:59 AM (LSB34)

246 Jake Holenhead @17 above:

Another good book for learning about the Gurkhas is John Masters' "Bugles and a Tiger". It is the first volume of his autobiography (three vols. total) and much of it concerns his service in a Gurkha regiment pre-WWII. He has a detailed discussion of the annual buffalo sacrifice ritual. It involved offerings both for the battalion as a whole and for each company. The usual blade used to behead the buffalo was an oversized version of a kurkhi. However, if the soldier who had been selected for the honor of conducting the sacrifice wanted to make a reputation as a major league badass, he could chose to use a standard issue kurkhi. In either case there was a risk involved in that if the one wielding the blade did not take the beast's head off cleanly he would be responsible for bringing a year's worth of BAD LUCK down on his unit and his buddies would give him a major ass-kicking for doing so.

Posted by: John F. MacMichael at April 07, 2019 10:59 AM (iuRR5)

247 232
HBO's Rome was okay. Not great, though. Has the same issue as GoT with gratuitous sex.

Yes, Livia is wonderful. Her speech to Lucius' friend is one of the best examples of enlightened villainy ever put on film.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 10:52 AM (cfSRQ)
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Agree about Rome; OK, not great. Except the newsreader. I will give them points for portraying Julius in a way that should satisfy both views of him.

Almost every Livia scene is great. But my favorite is one you included, but cut a bit too soon. IMO, the best line is "Lost your stutter too, I see."

Another, about the Senate: "You're not allowed in because you're a fool, and I'm not because I'm an old woman. But there's no one in the Senate but old women and fools."

Just off the top of my head.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 10:59 AM (VaN/j)

248 Right Now I am enjoying the SPELLMONGER series, the goblins have been plotting for a very long time to take back the land the humans stole, and the SPELLMONGER who is back from the war just wants to retire to the country side but the Goblins have other ideas.

It does have some sexual content but the Main Character is 25 and at War. I do enjoy the court battles of the Kingdoms and lite politics.

I feel the way the Wizards were treated like over regulated guns that if they got out of line the Government would kill or in prison them and if you weren't a REGISTERED wizard they would just kill you.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at April 07, 2019 10:59 AM (dKiJG)

249 216 Question: What's the deal with the links in the sigs which go to "acecomments"? I get the ones that take you to a page, but not these. Click it, you go right back to where you are.
Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 10:37 AM (VaN/j)


Rickroll for Morons.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at April 07, 2019 10:59 AM (di1hb)

250 and sigh, yes, it conforms to the new regs for mandatory LGBTBBQetc. content.

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That's the problem with reality. It ruins all my good jokes.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 07, 2019 11:03 AM (+y/Ru)

251 Or not. You may have to sacrifice a chicken and read its intestines for further guidance.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2019 10:52 AM (wYseH)

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And yet Gibbon considered Christianity superstitious!

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 11:04 AM (cfSRQ)

252 That's the problem with reality. It ruins all my good jokes.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 07, 2019 11:03 AM (+y/Ru)

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The nice thing about streaming is that the content providers get detailed feedback, which allows them to know exactly in what ways they are losing viewers.

"Hmmm, so the gay makeout scene caused a 75 percent drop in viewership. Maybe not so many of those?"

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 11:05 AM (cfSRQ)

253 After last week's gun thread about reloading, I found a few sites recounting peoples' experiences with older reloading gear and their attitudes about the activity. Made for some enjoyable reading.

Posted by: JTB at April 07, 2019 11:06 AM (bmdz3)

254 "You're not allowed in because you're a fool, and I'm not because I'm an old woman. But there's no one in the Senate but old women and fools."

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Hey, I'm standing right here!

Posted by: Diane Feinstein at April 07, 2019 11:07 AM (+y/Ru)

255 There's so much we really don't know about history. I
think the DNA testing is going to really shock people. There's long
been a theory that some of the American Indians came from the West, not
the East.

Wouldn't that upset some apple carts?
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 10:39 AM (cfSRQ)
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There is a lot of testing been done in the last 15-20 years, and it generally shows there are two major lineages, but both are coming from Siberia and through Beringia. The current theory is that groups moved into Beringia, which was as big as Europe, and survived on isolated in areas, and when the glaciers started receding, one group took off along the face of the glacier sheets, and the other headed south along the now available Pacific shore.

A lot of the theory for European origin comes from similarities of Solutrean and Clovis culture points, and a spear point dredged up with mastadon bones off of NC, but the genetics and the mitochondrial genetics do not show any support for that.

There are a number of articles on this, one is on my TBR pile by Jennifer Raff and Deborah Bolnick on the genetics of the first Americans. I have heard Jennifer Raff speak on a couple of podcasts.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 07, 2019 11:07 AM (mUa7G)

256 The left has an advantage in organizing, in that they believe in uniting to conquer those that believe in the sovereign individual. They win by using government to take, and their bounty is special privileges and free stuff (and a sense of group power).


The believer in sovereign (maker) individualism unites around maintaining their liberty. They group with the main intent of stopping taker groups from conquering the individual. There is no "free stuff" reward for winning, they merely stop/slow the takers. (and a sense of being fair to all)


The real puppeteers (Soros hedge fund types) mostly want to break the West, and Win/Take control over governments. They buy votes by promising to take from the maker, out of "fairness", even as the oligarchs take (bribe) trillion dollar bailouts and (corruptly) run monetary policy for their profit.


CFR types like subterfuge and shadows, to hide their guile. Those oligarchs have not won with argument, so they have imported a third world people to replace us. The hinterlands remain solidly America First, with old Democrats slipping out of the left's grasp. Will it be enough?

Posted by: illiniwek at April 07, 2019 11:08 AM (Cus5s)

257 112 Snip top part

A book recommendation this week is Of Arms and Men a History of Wars, Weapons, and Agression by Robert J. OConnell
Great read about the disruption of new weapons technologies on civilization written in a very readable style.
Posted by: Dread0 at April 07, 2019 09:40 AM (

Maybe, but I don't trust him. Sacred Vessels was awful; it merited the Perry Mason trifecta, incompetent, irrelevant, and immaterial. (Inaccurate, too.)

@eeyore
I never read Sacred Vessels. But will check it out. However I loved the first three hinges of history (Irish saved civilization) and hated the rest due to the BDS. So an author can write both good and bad books.

Posted by: Dread0 at April 07, 2019 11:09 AM (Bptbo)

258
A lot of the theory for European origin comes
from similarities of Solutrean and Clovis culture points, and a spear
point dredged up with mastadon bones off of NC, but the genetics and the
mitochondrial genetics do not show any support for that.

There
are a number of articles on this, one is on my TBR pile by Jennifer Raff
and Deborah Bolnick on the genetics of the first Americans. I have
heard Jennifer Raff speak on a couple of podcasts.


Posted by: Kindltot at April 07, 2019 11:07 AM (mUa7G)

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But is not part of the reason for this an extreme reluctance amongst the tribes to get themselves tested?

If you already have a tribal membership and they use a blood quantum, a DNA test could have severe consequences for you both socially and economically.

Didn't Warren have her DNA compared to someone from Peruvia because so few registered Cherokee have participated?

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 11:10 AM (cfSRQ)

259 Hey, I'm standing right here!
Posted by: Diane Feinstein at April 07, 2019 11:07 AM (+y/Ru)

===

I regret having ever considered you anything more than a garden-variety yenta.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 07, 2019 11:10 AM (EZebt)

260 There's a link in the sidebar to an LCD Sound System track. Here's an amazing bit of videography featuring the awesomeness that was JP Auclaire street skiing in BC, all set to LCD's "Dance Yourself Clean."
I never get tired of watching this:
http://tinyurl.com/JPAuclaire

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 07, 2019 11:10 AM (ty7RM)

261 This Donk must be silenced!

https://bit.ly/2D4NGsO

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 07, 2019 11:12 AM (+y/Ru)

262 Yes, Livia is wonderful. Her speech to Lucius' friend is one of the best examples of enlightened villainy ever put on film.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 10:52 AM (cfSRQ)


"Don't eat the figs."

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at April 07, 2019 11:12 AM (mO09S)

263 Aren't there many film adaptations for this? I think my wife has assiduously watched them all.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 10:54 AM (cfSRQ)


The movie version that came out in, I think, the early 60s was supposedly pretty good, although I have not seen it.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at April 07, 2019 11:13 AM (mO09S)

264 Omar Asks Allah To Forgive Trump

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Well, isn't that Christian of her?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 07, 2019 11:13 AM (+y/Ru)

265 CFR types like subterfuge and shadows, to hide their
guile. Those oligarchs have not won with argument, so they have
imported a third world people to replace us. The hinterlands remain
solidly America First, with old Democrats slipping out of the left's
grasp. Will it be enough?


Posted by: illiniwek at April 07, 2019 11:08 AM (Cus5s)

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The coalition is starting to fracture because there aren't enough spoils to go around.

Affirmative action is the perfect example. Asians are being turned into honorary whites, which means they have to be vilified and discriminated against.

Hispanic people came here to get away from Latin America, not to import it.

All these contradictions are piling up and we've reached the point where the fissures are getting very hard to paper over.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 11:14 AM (cfSRQ)

266 Obama In Germany: Europe Has Achieved Pinnacle Of Human Well Being

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Damn racist bastard!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 07, 2019 11:14 AM (+y/Ru)

267 But it's more humorous with "humerus"!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 10:56 AM (kQs4Y)


How erudite you are!

Posted by: Ladyl at April 07, 2019 11:15 AM (TdMsT)

268 This Donk must be silenced!
https://bit.ly/2D4NGsO

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 07, 2019 11:12 AM (+y/Ru)


Don't worry, Kerrey has been out of politics for years, no one is going to listen to him.

I always wonder why politicians never sober up until AFTER they leave office.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at April 07, 2019 11:16 AM (mO09S)

269 I want to get up and make something to eat, but the cat refuses to budge.

So I will just sit here and be hungry, assuming her purring doesn't put me to sleep first.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 11:17 AM (cfSRQ)

270 But is not part of the reason for this an extreme reluctance amongst the tribes to get themselves tested?

If
you already have a tribal membership and they use a blood quantum, a
DNA test could have severe consequences for you both socially and
economically.

Didn't Warren have her DNA compared to someone from Peruvia because so few registered Cherokee have participated?
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 11:10 AM (cfSRQ)


Testing referred to into the article is for pre-columbian remains. But there is a lot of resistance on genetic testing to base tribe affiliation, and for a reason. Culture is not genetics.


Posted by: Kindltot at April 07, 2019 11:18 AM (mUa7G)

271 I always wonder why politicians never sober up until AFTER they leave office.


Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader Pants Monitor at April 07, 2019 11:16 AM (mO09S)

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Because the bribes stop coming.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 11:18 AM (cfSRQ)

272 Says it is the Royal Canadian Military Institute Library.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at April 07, 2019 11:18 AM (QMwOT)

273 Obama In Germany: Europe Has Achieved Pinnacle Of Human Well Being


Best come back from Kurt Schlichter " You can be arrested for words"

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at April 07, 2019 11:20 AM (dKiJG)

274 >> I always wonder why politicians never sober up until AFTER they leave office.


Because we are paying their Bar Tab prior to that.

Posted by: garrett at April 07, 2019 11:20 AM (ykkL0)

275 Aren't there many film adaptations for this? I think my wife has assiduously watched them all.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 10:54 AM (cfSRQ)

The movie version that came out in, I think, the early 60s was supposedly pretty good, although I have not seen it.

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Many years ago, Mrs. Wrecks and I went to play based on the novel in Durango, CO. They were professionals but this wasn't Broadway. It barely counted as Off Broadway. But it was excellent! The SFX were great.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 07, 2019 11:21 AM (+y/Ru)

276 >>Obama In Germany: Europe Has Achieved Pinnacle Of Human Well Being


All they had to do was exterminate their Jews. No wonder Obama is envious.

Posted by: garrett at April 07, 2019 11:21 AM (ykkL0)

277 OM, your book threads are always thought provoking, and sometimes wish they could go all day... but then I wouldn't get anything done, all day.

So the Colorado question is of interest to me, as a contemplate a move out West. There are places I could go, even in what seem like permanently leftist states, because the questions around politics don't HAVE to dominate everything.

And I think we sometimes forget, what goes in one direction, can and sometimes does, rebound into the other. So I don't know if there's really anything like a permanently left or right leaning state. The world's changing, if y'all didn't notice.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2019 11:22 AM (cY3LT)

278 Erudite was Aphrodite's plain but smart sister.

Posted by: votermom's fake fact file at April 07, 2019 11:22 AM (dm05u)

279 That's cool.

There's so much we really don't know about history. I think the DNA testing is going to really shock people. There's long been a theory that some of the American Indians came from the West, not the East.

Wouldn't that upset some apple carts?
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 10:39 AM (cfSRQ)


Word.

Posted by: Joseph Smith at April 07, 2019 11:23 AM (/qEW2)

280 >>I don't know if there's really anything like a permanently left or right leaning state.


Hi!

Posted by: States not named Alaska, that touch the Pacific at April 07, 2019 11:23 AM (ykkL0)

281 I enjoyed the Netflix version of the Haunting of Hill House - very spooky and creepy

Posted by: votermom's fake fact file at April 07, 2019 11:23 AM (dm05u)

282 Erudite was Aphrodite's plain but smart sister.
Posted by: votermom's fake fact file at April 07, 2019 11:22 AM (dm05u)


Every woman has a piece of erudite.

Posted by: Red Hot Chili Peppers at April 07, 2019 11:24 AM (/qEW2)

283 Testing referred to into the article is for
pre-columbian remains. But there is a lot of resistance on genetic
testing to base tribe affiliation, and for a reason.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 07, 2019 11:18 AM (mUa7G)

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Right, but how do we know who is descended from those remains? Burial customs varied widely and tribes moved around quite a bit.

There's also the issue of tribes resisting any effort to examine their remains.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 11:25 AM (cfSRQ)

284 where to comment on a side bar topic....Ace has to have the worst commenting system on the web... whatever. Thanks and RIP old world Norwegian. New world Norway is a pansy country now. Who cares? They couldn't punch their way out of a paper bag. Losers.

Posted by: Pragmatist at April 07, 2019 11:25 AM (ua1m6)

285 Pants model must have borrowed my mom's shoes.

Posted by: kallisto at April 07, 2019 11:25 AM (8k/Um)

286 Jake Holenhead @17 above:
Another good book for learning about the Gurkhas is John Masters' "Bugles and a Tiger". It is the first volume of his autobiography (three vols. total) and much of it concerns his service in a Gurkha regiment pre-WWII.
Posted by: John F. MacMichael at April 07, 2019 10:59 AM

I've read that and several of his other books. He wrote that a British officer had to be accepted by the Gurkhas before getting assigned to lead them. One test involved them getting the officer drunk. Masters drunken behavior met the Gurkha standard because he served with them for many years.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at April 07, 2019 11:27 AM (TDyHc)

287 Cordite was their youngest brother. He was a real hothead!

Posted by: votermom's fake fact file at April 07, 2019 11:28 AM (dm05u)

288 I love an article that begins thusly:

MARTIN COUNTY, FL (Gray News) - The sight of a man wearing a thong was all a Florida homeowner needed to call the Martin County Sheriff's Office last month.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 11:29 AM (kQs4Y)

289 So the Colorado question is of interest to me, as a contemplate a move out West. There are places I could go,
==========================
Rural, up-mountain CO is great; I lived out there for 10 years. Denver is pretty bad: lots and lots of people moving there from somewhere else, and the infrastructure just can't keep up. Since legalization of rec. pot, the number of homeless and near homeless "weedows" is skyrocketing. Colorado Springs is livable. Also, places like Evergreen are also doable, but you better have your $$s in order.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 07, 2019 11:29 AM (ty7RM)

290 287 Cordite was their youngest brother. He was a real hothead!
Posted by: votermom's fake fact file at April 07, 2019 11:28 AM (dm05u)

Coprolite was a real shit, though.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 11:29 AM (NWiLs)

291 There are two movie versions of "The Haunting"

The 1966? version is a stone cold classic of psychological suspense with hints of the supernatural.

The 1999? version with Catherine Zeta-Jones and a bunch of Hollywood big leaguers is a stone cold crapfest. One of the worst movies ever made. Just building in awfulness to one of the worst climaxes ever committed to film.

If you watch one, choose wisely.

The 1966? "The Haunting" is a quiet, delicate movie that works best if you turn out all the lights and snuggle in on a cold winter's night.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 07, 2019 11:30 AM (CRRq9)

292 277 OM, your book threads are always thought provoking, and sometimes wish they could go all day... but then I wouldn't get anything done, all day.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2019 11:22 AM (cY3LT)


Thank you for your kind words. The book thread is active for a very long time. Sometimes I see new comments late in the afternoon.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at April 07, 2019 11:30 AM (mO09S)

293 257 112 Snip top part

A book recommendation this week is Of Arms and Men a History of Wars, Weapons, and Agression by Robert J. OConnell
Great read about the disruption of new weapons technologies on civilization written in a very readable style.
Posted by: Dread0 at April 07, 2019 09:40 AM (

Maybe, but I don't trust him. Sacred Vessels was awful; it merited the Perry Mason trifecta, incompetent, irrelevant, and immaterial. (Inaccurate, too.)

@eeyore
I never read Sacred Vessels. But will check it out. However I loved the first three hinges of history (Irish saved civilization) and hated the rest due to the BDS. So an author can write both good and bad books.
Posted by: Dread0 at April 07, 2019 11:09 AM (Bptbo)
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It's been some years, but the two big flaws that stick in my mind are:

1. He perpetuates the "Admirals cried" myth about the sinking of the Ostfriesland by Mitchell. That's bee exploded, a lie probably created by Mitchell's sister. And the whole test is misrepresented in pop history.

2. He bases a lot on the vulnerability of battleships, as though it were uniquely true of them, when in fact the opposite was true. Battleships were the LEAST vulnerable ships of WWII. The implication that carriers were less so is flat-out ridiculous.

There's also the matter of repeating the mantra that there was a superstitious and sentimental tie to them. That's also easily disprovable. But it too survives in pop history (and it does affect VDH, too.)

It's classic "bloody idiots" history, which has about a 1% chance of being accurate.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 11:32 AM (VaN/j)

294 Only up to comment #175 so far, but before the thread got superseded I wanted to remark

Captain Crunch seems to have got hold of a random run-on sentence generator. Another instance where I kinda wish the "posted by" line preceded the comment so I don't find myself halfway into reading and realizing it's... um... not in my interest group.

Although, I'm told, for some folks, I'm that guy.

Posted by: mindful webworker - random run-on sentences are tight! at April 07, 2019 11:32 AM (GvEen)

295 Reading Storm Landings.
About the amphibious assaults in the Pacific during WWII.
The boys had steel ones; titanium coated steel ones.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at April 07, 2019 11:34 AM (QMwOT)

296 I saw the 1999 version of The Haunting at the movies. Nowhere near as frightening as the earlier version.

Posted by: kallisto at April 07, 2019 11:36 AM (8k/Um)

297 German is a good, solid language, and honest. There is no guile to it.

Posted by: Cat Hating Morons From the Cat Thread Yesterday at April 07, 2019 11:37 AM (5aX2M)

298 Cat hating sock off

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 07, 2019 11:38 AM (5aX2M)

299 It's classic "bloody idiots" history, which has about a 1% chance of being accurate.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 07, 2019 11:32 AM (VaN/j)

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A while back, I mentioned how I purged my book collection. All the books that went away were ones I'd owned for a while (in some cases, decades) but had since learned they were just wrong.

They all dealt with either military history or equipment and a lot of them embodied conventional wisdom or were based off of reading the stat line and extrapolating effectiveness.

I'm much more discerning now, and that's why my collection is relatively stable. I need to book to prove its worth before it gets shelf space.

I'm still waiting for the definitive military history of the Spanish Civil War, for example.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 11:39 AM (cfSRQ)

300 A Sale of Two Titties
Posted by: Muldoon


Wow. I've heard that joke,* basically, all my life. Never knew it came from a Muldoon limerick!

:/

*That's whatcha call a spoonerism, isn't it?

Posted by: mindful webworker - what about forkerisms? at April 07, 2019 11:39 AM (GvEen)

301 The 8th book in The Expanse series (James S A Corey) came out last week, Tiamat's Wrath, and I devoured it in 2 days and absolutely loved it. The 9th and final book will appear probably in 2021.

To pass the time until the last installment, I just decided to start the whole series over, and just finished the first book, Leviathan Wakes last night.

Best Sci Fi Space Opera ever. Wonderfully written, lots of tech and politics and history and world building. A mystery at the heart of everything and very, very well-developed main characters.

Highly recommended.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 07, 2019 11:40 AM (ApOS9)

302

Hoarding picture reminded me of Burgess Meredith in The Twilight Zone just before he broke his glasses.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 07, 2019 11:41 AM (aKsyK)

303 127 153 Herodotus

Odd, I just picked up the history again myself, recently. It's the translation by David Greene, at the recommendation of a home-schooling site I used. Youngest BJM and I read it together some 25 years ago now.
Greene's Introduction by itself, IMO, justifies recommending his translation. He gives his take on what Herodotus's approach was to the many stories he transcribed (as opposed to those things he saw himself on his travels). Briefly, he proposes that H. viewed the importance of "history" to be the present-day effect of the "summing up" of past events, as people have learned them. (Clearly that doesn't do his essay justice.) So he tells his audience that this is what the Lydians say about such-and-such an episode, while this is the story that the Macedonians tell.
Plus, the edition has a picture of my grandpa Leonidas on the cover! He died when I was only three, but I never realized what a badass he was!

Posted by: BJM at April 07, 2019 11:41 AM (hu22E)

304 Right, but how do we know who is descended from those remains? Burial customs varied widely and tribes moved around quite a bit.

There's also the issue of tribes resisting any effort to examine their remains.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 11:25 AM (cfSRQ)


The survey was done to determine genetic ancestry of the first Americans, and to determine if there was a European, Pacific Islander or African source for any of the genetic lineages.
So far the DNA and Mitochondrial DNA show only Asian sources, but of two major groups, which were also divided up among other criteria.
However the only determination was that the first Americans arrived by foot via Beringia, hung out there a really long time, and then went on to the Americas.

Now, what the tribes do about it now has more to do with politics and treaties and benefits more than genetics. Since tribes did move around, take slaves, adopt and intermarry, if they try to base everything on genetics I think they will destroy most of their own case, and if they start basing everything on how "pure" the lineage is they will rip their tribes apart.

Genetics is not culture.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 07, 2019 11:41 AM (mUa7G)

305 My library makes me look like a hoarder :-/
I have a hard time parting with books, unless they really piss me off (Looking at you, Steven Erikson)

And I second The Expanse stuff. The author(s) really know how to write.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at April 07, 2019 11:41 AM (xJa6I)

306 *looks down*



Whew! I've got pants on. Happy book thread people.

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 07, 2019 11:42 AM (ydNpi)

307 Just looked and the original version of The Haunting on DVD on Amazon is $60! Must be good!

Posted by: Weasel at April 07, 2019 11:42 AM (MAbRE)

308 Any Morons know who the gentleman is in that library portrait?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 11:43 AM (kQs4Y)

309 Wait, I'm not wearing pants!

*hangs head*

Posted by: BJM at April 07, 2019 11:44 AM (hu22E)

310 Really need to get motivated, get busy, and overseed the road.

Posted by: Weasel at April 07, 2019 11:44 AM (MAbRE)

311 Finally finished The Place of the Lion. Might read another Williams book someday, but not for a while. I'm moving on to Tara Ross' Enlightened Democracy, The Case for the Electoral College.

A friend recommended, I was Vermeer, the story of a WWII era forger. Cheap purchase on Amazon, and will give us something to discuss at the next auction we attend.

Posted by: CN at April 07, 2019 11:45 AM (U7k5w)

312 I'm wearing shorts, which is obeying the letter of the law but still Sticking It To The Man.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 11:45 AM (kQs4Y)

313 So the Colorado question is of interest to me, as a contemplate a move out West. There are places I could go,
==========================
Rural, up-mountain CO is great; I lived out there for 10 years. Denver is pretty bad: lots and lots of people moving there from somewhere else, and the infrastructure just can't keep up. Since legalization of rec. pot, the number of homeless and near homeless "weedows" is skyrocketing. Colorado Springs is livable. Also, places like Evergreen are also doable, but you better have your $$s in order.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 07, 2019 11:29 AM (ty7RM)


I'm watching the Malkin video now (the one posted above). I guess the question is, if these people did what they did, who is fighting back?

Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2019 11:45 AM (cY3LT)

314 Hi Eris!

Posted by: Weasel at April 07, 2019 11:45 AM (MAbRE)

315 Any Morons know who the gentleman is in that library portrait?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 11:43 AM (kQs4Y)

Looks to have an ailing left arm.

Posted by: BignJames at April 07, 2019 11:45 AM (ykq7q)

316 Weasel, if you're looking for a change of pace, you can come help me clean taps and buckets. Wear tall boots. It's muddy.

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 07, 2019 11:46 AM (ydNpi)

317 Eris, I think that's Wellington

Posted by: votermom's fake fact file at April 07, 2019 11:46 AM (dm05u)

318 !Weasel!

Why are you seeding the road?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 11:47 AM (kQs4Y)

319 >I'm wearing shorts, which is obeying the letter of the law but still Sticking It To The Man.


Who wears short - shorts?

Eris wears short - shorts!

Posted by: garrett at April 07, 2019 11:47 AM (ykkL0)

320 For fans of fantasy adventure, the latest in P.C. Hodgell's Kencyrath series starring Jame, erst-while thief and sister to Torisen High Lord, will be released next month - By Demons Possessed.

Men-dalis, Sircan of the Thieves Guild, has summoned Jame, known as the Talisman, back to Tai-Tastigon. If she refuses her friends in the god overrun city will suffer.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2019 11:47 AM (AfyLj)

321 However the only determination was that the first Americans arrived by foot via Beringia, hung out there a really long time, and then went on to the Americas.

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I think it's a kinda funny... millions were spent on gene cline research to confirm anthropological common knowledge of the human radiations in North America derived from megafaunal mass extinction events.

But the super high tech stuff is sexier research than simply saying "the Indians would get a bit peckish from time to time."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 07, 2019 11:48 AM (5aX2M)

322 I made more progress in Plutarch's Lives this week, getting through the life of Pompey the Great.

I finished the goofy-named "Dark Secrets of SHTF Survival" by Selco Begovic, which is almost more memoir than anything else. It does hammer home that when things get really, really bad...it's worse than most people or most authors can imagine. It's slight, and dark indeed, not sure if I rec or not. Maybe, worth reading, the segment on why people stay when things start going VERY south was interesting. I'd recommend it for anyone writing apocalpyse or zombie fiction.

Speaking of almost-memoir, I read Moron author A. H. Lloyd's "Three Weeks with the Coasties: A tale of disaster and also an oil spill". It's not a story, with plot and conflict and all that good stuff. But I enjoyed the brief window into the life of dealing with the Horizon oil spill, even if just from a social media and military PR viewpoint. It does not reflect well on the affirmative-action promoted folks but does reflect well on the National Guard overall. Worth a read but remember it's not really a novel.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at April 07, 2019 11:48 AM (xJa6I)

323 316 Weasel, if you're looking for a change of pace, you can come help me clean taps and buckets. Wear tall boots. It's muddy.
Posted by: Muad'dib at April 07, 2019 11:46 AM (ydNpi)
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Sounds like fun! But I have 250# of grass seed in the back of the truck that isn't going to spread itself. Also need to do some equipment maintenance today.

Posted by: Weasel at April 07, 2019 11:48 AM (MAbRE)

324 Eeyore #216: Question: What's the deal with the links in the sigs which go to "acecomments"? I get the ones that take you to a page, but not these. Click it, you go right back to where you are.

Quick scan suggests this hasn't lready been (seriously) answered:

It's an HTML thing. In the URL field, someone didn't put in a full link. Usually a failure to start with http: or mailto: or the like.

Posted by: mindful webworker - hyperlinks, how do dey woik? at April 07, 2019 11:48 AM (GvEen)

325 Thanks Votermom! Here it is, up close and fabulous:

https://fineartamerica.com/featured/ arthur-wellesley-duke-of-wellington- sir-thomas-lawrence.html

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 11:48 AM (kQs4Y)

326 318 !Weasel!

Why are you seeding the road?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 11:47 AM (kQs4Y)

Is this a euphemism?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 11:49 AM (NWiLs)

327 318 !Weasel!

Why are you seeding the road?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 11:47 AM (kQs4Y)

To lure me across

Posted by: The Chicken at April 07, 2019 11:49 AM (dm05u)

328 >Sounds like fun! But I have 250# of grass seed in the back of the truck that isn't going to spread itself. Also need to do some equipment maintenance today.
Posted by: Weasel at April 07, 2019 11:



250?? Here is hoping you have a 3 point PTO-driven spreader for your tractor.

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 07, 2019 11:50 AM (ydNpi)

329 Grass seed. The roads on the farm are dirt and grass helps stop erosion. The problem with grass, however, is I have to mow it!

Posted by: Weasel at April 07, 2019 11:50 AM (MAbRE)

330 Director: "Because it's in the script!"

Posted by: The Chicken, with just the punchline at April 07, 2019 11:51 AM (hu22E)

331 "Seeding the road" and "mowing the grass," eh? This so called farm sounds like a regular den of iniquity!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 11:52 AM (NWiLs)

332 Ask for a closed set, Chicken.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 11:52 AM (kQs4Y)

333 Evergreen used to be cool. It's been taken over by douchebags now. I'd strike it off any list of potential places to live.

However, with the runaway growth of Moscow on the Front Range, the whole, wonderful state is now completely at the mercy of the City.

Probably good to avoid it altogether.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 07, 2019 11:52 AM (5aX2M)

334 >> >Sounds like fun! But I have 250# of grass seed in the back of the truck that isn't going to spread itself.


Your ficus s going to get jealous.

Posted by: garrett at April 07, 2019 11:53 AM (ykkL0)

335 >331 "Seeding the road" and "mowing the grass," eh? This so called farm sounds like a regular den of iniquity!
Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 11:5


And he hasn't even mentioned plowing yet.

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 07, 2019 11:53 AM (ydNpi)

336

250?? Here is hoping you have a 3 point PTO-driven spreader for your tractor.
Posted by: Muad'dib at April 07, 2019 11:50 AM (ydNpi)
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I use a little spreader cart that I tow behind my Gator. I looked at spreaders for the tractor, but since I only do this once a year, the cart was much more economical.

Posted by: Weasel at April 07, 2019 11:53 AM (MAbRE)

337 Weasel has cast his seed far and wide.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 11:53 AM (kQs4Y)

338 Sometimes I seed the road naked!

Posted by: Weasel at April 07, 2019 11:54 AM (MAbRE)

339 Trust me, I am expert.

250 lbs worth is a LOT of seed.

Posted by: Peter North at April 07, 2019 11:54 AM (ykkL0)

340 Just a sombrero and a smile!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 11:54 AM (kQs4Y)

341 Weasel has cast his seed far and wide.

Beware the rocky ground.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2019 11:55 AM (AfyLj)

342 Anna!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 11:55 AM (kQs4Y)

343 The problem with grass, however, is I have to mow it!


Hence the expression, "it's a tough road to mow".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 07, 2019 11:55 AM (fuK7c)

344 >338 Sometimes I seed the road naked!
Posted by: Weasel at April 07, 2019 11:54



Kill me please.

Posted by: The Road at April 07, 2019 11:55 AM (ydNpi)

345 340 Just a sombrero and a smile!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 11:54 AM (kQs4Y)

My eyes! MY EYES!!!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 11:55 AM (NWiLs)

346 Eris, I think that's Wellington

Posted by: votermom's fake fact file at April 07, 2019 11:46 AM (dm05u)

I think you're right.




http://tinyurl.com/y4yp9kwm

Posted by: BignJames at April 07, 2019 11:56 AM (ykq7q)

347 340 Just a sombrero and a smile!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 11:54 AM (kQs4Y)
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Yep! Guess this makes me an organic grass farmer, too.

Posted by: Weasel at April 07, 2019 11:56 AM (MAbRE)

348 >> Trust me, I am expert.

250 lbs worth is a LOT of seed.
Posted by: Peter North

All depends on definitions.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at April 07, 2019 11:57 AM (e7Ngv)

349 335 >331 "Seeding the road" and "mowing the grass," eh? This so called farm sounds like a regular den of iniquity!
Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 11:5


And he hasn't even mentioned plowing yet.
Posted by: Muad'dib at April 07, 2019 11:53 AM (ydNpi)

he did mention "equipment maintenance" and we all know what THAT means

Posted by: votermom happy to have read a good book! at April 07, 2019 11:57 AM (dm05u)

350 341 Weasel has cast his seed far and wide.

Beware the rocky ground.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2019 11:55 AM (AfyLj)

Like Edwina's insides, where my seed could find no purchase.

Posted by: H. I. McDonough at April 07, 2019 11:58 AM (NWiLs)

351 347 340 Just a sombrero and a smile!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 11:54 AM (kQs4Y)
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Yep! Guess this makes me an organic grass farmer, too.
Posted by: Weasel at April 07, 2019 11:56 AM (MAbRE)

Great. Gas, grass and ass.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 11:58 AM (NWiLs)

352 333. NYers are infesting Lancaster County and the Lehigh Valley. Between them and the Philly exiles flooding the collar counties, PA is doomed.

Posted by: kallisto at April 07, 2019 11:58 AM (8k/Um)

353

Beware the Rocky Jones

Posted by: Winky at April 07, 2019 11:59 AM (aKsyK)

354
The 1966? version is a stone cold classic of psychological suspense with hints of the supernatural.


1963.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 07, 2019 11:59 AM (oVJmc)

355 Hey Rocky! Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!

Posted by: Bullwinkle at April 07, 2019 12:00 PM (NWiLs)

356 Speaking of almost-memoir, I read Moron author A. H.
Lloyd's "Three Weeks with the Coasties: A tale of disaster and also an
oil spill". It's not a story, with plot and conflict and all that good
stuff. But I enjoyed the brief window into the life of dealing with the
Horizon oil spill, even if just from a social media and military PR
viewpoint. It does not reflect well on the affirmative-action promoted
folks but does reflect well on the National Guard overall. Worth a read
but remember it's not really a novel.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at April 07, 2019 11:48 AM (xJa6I)

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I'm glad you liked the book, but I dispute that it's not "a story." It very much is one, about a Guardsman who thinks being "in the game" will be exciting and meaningful and finds out it is very different. There's also plenty of conflict, which escalates to a climax with the Sherpa flight and its aftermath.

It is very different from my other stuff, though. I intend it to be part of the military career of Eric March, tentatively titled "Meanwhile, Back at the Base."

Because much of that involves 'home station' situations, its publication must await my retirement from the Guard.


Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 12:01 PM (cfSRQ)

357 OK. Time to get to work. Later, y'all!

Posted by: Weasel at April 07, 2019 12:01 PM (MAbRE)

358 Look out for ticks Weasel.

Posted by: kallisto at April 07, 2019 12:02 PM (8k/Um)

359 358 Look out for ticks Weasel.
Posted by: kallisto at April 07, 2019 12:02 PM (8k/Um)

Especially if he's working nekkid.

Posted by: Bullwinkle at April 07, 2019 12:02 PM (NWiLs)

360 Frostbite Falls denizen sock off.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 12:03 PM (NWiLs)

361 Weasel has to leave the august book thread because he's doffing his pants.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 12:04 PM (kQs4Y)

362 334 >> >Sounds like fun! But I have 250# of grass seed in the back of the truck that isn't going to spread itself.

Your ficus s going to get jealous.
Posted by: garrett at April 07, 2019 11:53 AM (ykkL0)


I can take care of that.

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at April 07, 2019 12:04 PM (mO09S)

363 361 Weasel has to leave the august book thread because he's doffing his pants.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 12:04 PM (kQs4Y)

Why does that affect what happens four months from now?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 12:05 PM (NWiLs)

364

Watch out for snakes!

Posted by: Arch Hall, Sr. at April 07, 2019 12:07 PM (aKsyK)

365 364

Watch out for snakes!
Posted by: Arch Hall, Sr. at April 07, 2019 12:07 PM (aKsyK)

Bad news, weasel. Doc says it's fatal.
/just the punchline

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 12:08 PM (NWiLs)

366 Let's not go the Booke Threade. 'Tis a silly place!

Posted by: Arthur, King of the Britons at April 07, 2019 12:09 PM (kQs4Y)

367 Lol. I'm watching about San Jose, Costa Rica. They have a famous statue of a woman called "La Chola." Local tradition says if you want good luck, you have to spank La Chola on her ass, and then rub her titties.

Toxic masculinity!

Feminists, attack!!!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 07, 2019 12:09 PM (5aX2M)

368 I got the second e-book in the Jacob Fletcher sea novels by John Drake. I like these books, but not enough to own them in physical form.

Looking over the books he's written, I realized that I'd read his stuff before. He wrote a three-book prequel to Treasure Island showing the adventures of Long John Silver and how the whole thing set up.

But I wasn't very impressed with the first book and never read any others. On the one hand, its very daring to try to write something about characters and a setting Robert Louis Stevenson created -- one of the best authors ever. But he did an okay job.

My problem is that things didn't go the way I would have expected or wanted to, and it was a bit uneven with jumping back and forward in time. It didn't really grab me. But its well written, so maybe others might like Flint and Silver enough.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 07, 2019 12:10 PM (39g3+)

369 Iniquity also has a din. Emanating from its den.

Posted by: Burger Chef at April 07, 2019 12:10 PM (RuIsu)

370 Speaking of pants, I've been reading December 6 by Martin Cruz Smith about Japan just before WWII. He relates the story of a number of Japanese women who burned to death on the upper floor of a building rather than to jump to safety exposing the sanctum sanctorum. After that, Japanese women began wearing panties

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 07, 2019 12:12 PM (+y/Ru)

371 Thong-Wearing CNN Eunuch Crafts Impressive Facade From Bulwark of Lies.

Posted by: Many Donutan Spies Died To Bring You This at April 07, 2019 12:12 PM (L9FrO)

372 369 Iniquity also has a din. Emanating from its den.
Posted by: Burger Chef at April 07, 2019 12:10 PM (RuIsu)

Don't forget the din of inequity. Unfairness is LOUD.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 12:13 PM (NWiLs)

373 Don't forget the din of inequity. Unfairness is LOUD.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 12:13 PM (NWiLs)

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Our struggle is real!

Posted by: The Ears of Social Justice at April 07, 2019 12:14 PM (5aX2M)

374 I don't know how one would meet someone in a book store, everyone I've seen is head down looking at titles, not paying anyone else any attention.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 07, 2019 12:14 PM (39g3+)

375 That sidebar link about Joachim Roenneberg, one of the men who blew up the Norsk Hydro heavy water plant in WWII, reminds me of the excellent book recommended by OregonMuse right here in this book thread a year or two ago, Churchill's Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare by Giles Milton.

If you haven't read it yet, you should remedy that.

Posted by: bluebell at April 07, 2019 12:14 PM (aXucN)

376 off, sleazebag perv sock!

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at April 07, 2019 12:15 PM (mO09S)

377 370
Speaking of pants, I've been reading December 6 by Martin Cruz Smith
about Japan just before WWII. He relates the story of a number of
Japanese women who burned to death on the upper floor of a building
rather than to jump to safety exposing the sanctum sanctorum. After
that, Japanese women began wearing panties

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 07, 2019 12:12 PM (+y/Ru)

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Years ago I read The Dark Valley: a panorama of the 1930s. Wretchard recommended it and it had parts that were very good and informative.

Unfortunately, the author bought into New Deal propaganda wholesale, so FDR was made out to be a heroic colossus bestriding the American political scene, banishing the Great Depression, etc.

Still, its portrayal of Japan was very eye-opening, particularly the political intrigues and assassinations.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 12:15 PM (cfSRQ)

378 OM:

139 I did a Googular search and apparently this is the Royal Canadian Military Institute (hence the flag):

http://www.eraarch.ca/project/royal-canadian-military-institute/

(click on photo of this library on the right)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 10:02 AM (kQs4Y)

That i.d. is also given down the page at the defenceindepth site:

Image: Royal Canadian Military Institute library via flickr

https://defenceindepth.co/2018/01/15/give-war-history-a-chance/

Posted by: m at April 07, 2019 12:15 PM (Scps5)

379 A tale of triumph -- my experience in a suburban golf club.

Actually was okay, they did have a smoking station outside one of the doors so I didn't have to sit with all the ex in-laws (most of whom I really love and talk to always, even 20+ years on). Didn't know that golf club was back there, everyone I know goes to another; but I was happy to see that it was a regular place without overt ostentation.

For book people: biggest hit was a 'Carl' board book by Alexandra Day (a rottweiler dog nanny) and Wild Things was another regular for my crew.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 07, 2019 12:15 PM (MIKMs)

380 Another book that is amusing and informative for fans of murder mysteries and legal thrillers - A Miscellany of Murder: From History and Literature to True Crime and Television, A Killer Selection of Trivia. Executed by The Monday Murder Club. 2011.

The reader will not only be shown Lizzy Bordon taking a few whacks at her parents but also the story of Jane Toppan who liked to climb in bed with her victims. Three movies that the American Bar Association likes. Inept crime labs including one in Broward County, FL. Or how blood splatter thwarted Henry Beattie Jr as he tried to rid himself of a wife. Plus great lines from PIs like Philip Marlowe along with Alfred Hitchcock quotes.

The epilogue is a real killer that provides a checklist of things you should try to avoid while trying to hide/bury a body.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2019 12:16 PM (AfyLj)

381 . . . like the Man from Athens said.

272 Says it is the Royal Canadian Military Institute Library.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at April 07, 2019 11:18 AM (QMwOT)

Posted by: m at April 07, 2019 12:17 PM (Scps5)

382 374 I don't know how one would meet someone in a book store, everyone I've seen is head down looking at titles, not paying anyone else any attention.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 07, 2019 12:14 PM (39g3+)

by commenting on a book that someone is looking at

Posted by: votermom happy to have read a good book! at April 07, 2019 12:18 PM (dm05u)

383 While only saw a couple of minutes of Got, did see a few episodes of Rome and could have gotten into that if I had HBO more than a weekend.

Posted by: Skip at April 07, 2019 12:18 PM (BbGew)

384 >>I don't know how one would meet someone in a book store, everyone I've seen is head down looking at titles, not paying anyone else any attention.


Try lighting a fart. Excellent icebreaker.

Posted by: garrett at April 07, 2019 12:20 PM (ykkL0)

385 also the story of Jane Toppan who liked to climb in bed with her victims.

"you go girl!"
--Cardi B

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 07, 2019 12:21 PM (39g3+)

386 "Atlas Pro" is a YouTube channel ... an interesting look at a theory "How Geography Doomed Africa", which gives insight into how culture is sometimes divided/formed around the geography/climate.


Another on East African Federation, trying to form a "new superpower" but aligning around things needed to form a strong country. They don't have the GDP of Western nations, but are trying to form the elements to build that.

Those I found helpful, in expanding my thinking on our Americas and our foundings.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 07, 2019 12:21 PM (Cus5s)

387 For book people: biggest hit was a 'Carl' board book by Alexandra Day (a rottweiler dog nanny)

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Even Chiquita Khrushchev can read those!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 07, 2019 12:21 PM (+y/Ru)

388 someone has typing turrets......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 07, 2019 12:21 PM (0O7c5)

389 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 10:02 AM (kQs4Y)

Thank you for researching this.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at April 07, 2019 12:21 PM (mO09S)

390 by commenting on a book that someone is looking at
Posted by: votermom happy to have read a good book! at April 07, 2019 12:18 PM (dm05u

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"I see you know how to read... I admire a woman who overcomes adversity."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 07, 2019 12:22 PM (5aX2M)

391 >>I don't know how one would meet someone in a book store, everyone I've seen is head down looking at titles, not paying anyone else any attention.


"Excuse me - I hate to bother you. But, do you know where the 'Gardening' section is?"

"Because, I've got a LOT of seed to sow."

Posted by: garrett at April 07, 2019 12:22 PM (ykkL0)

392 by commenting on a book that someone is looking at

Yeah but that would require you to be looking around at other people instead of at books.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 07, 2019 12:23 PM (39g3+)

393 My pet theory is that the Deepwater oil spill was exaggerated because it was offshore and because the Gulf is deep. By my math,the total oil spilled would only fill Yankee Stadium, were it closed off and turned into a pool, and the Gulf averages a mile deep

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 07, 2019 12:23 PM (Rnzal)

394 Who blew up the thread?

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2019 12:24 PM (AfyLj)

395 >>Yeah but that would require you to be looking around at other people instead of at books


That is good. It will keep you from hitting on the Chubby ones.

Posted by: garrett at April 07, 2019 12:24 PM (ykkL0)

396 Morning all.

Those are nice pants. I noticed there are no hip pockets which is a good thing.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 07, 2019 12:27 PM (0tfLf)

397 382 374 I don't know how one would meet someone in a book store, everyone I've seen is head down looking at titles, not paying anyone else any attention.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 07, 2019 12:14 PM (39g3+)

by commenting on a book that someone is looking at
Posted by: votermom happy to have read a good book! at April 07, 2019 12:18 PM (dm05u)

"The Joy of Transgender Sex." Um...

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2019 12:27 PM (NWiLs)

398 393
My pet theory is that the Deepwater oil spill was exaggerated because it
was offshore and because the Gulf is deep. By my math,the total oil
spilled would only fill Yankee Stadium, were it closed off and turned
into a pool, and the Gulf averages a mile deep

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 07, 2019 12:23 PM (Rnzal)

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Oil seeps into the Gulf naturally and their are microbes that eat it.

The dire predictions were about banning all drilling everywhere and had nothing to do with science.

Consider this: how many oil tankers were sunk during WW II? Those were priority targets for German U-boats. We talk of "oil spills," but how much was dumped in the oceans over those six years?

The funny thing is, when the shooting stopped, fish catches were at record levels because the fishing fleets had been confined to coastal areas for years.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 12:28 PM (cfSRQ)

399 Whoa.

I'm seeing an infomercial advertising a "Soul Train" themed cruise. I'm betting this is 1000 orders of magnitude cooler than an NR cruise.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 07, 2019 12:30 PM (5aX2M)

400 For book people: biggest hit was a 'Carl' board book by Alexandra Day (a rottweiler dog nanny)

Carl, open the door!

Posted by: Locked out School Teacher... at April 07, 2019 12:31 PM (LPnfS)

401 399
Whoa.



I'm seeing an infomercial advertising a "Soul Train" themed cruise.
I'm betting this is 1000 orders of magnitude cooler than an NR cruise.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 07, 2019 12:30 PM (5aX2M)

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But Don Cornelius is dead! Who could fill his place?

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 12:31 PM (cfSRQ)

402 The dire predictions were about banning all drilling everywhere and had nothing to do with science.

Yeah Obama's disinterest and letting things go for like a week before even noticing was evidence of this.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 07, 2019 12:31 PM (39g3+)

403 This week I finished Passage of Power, Caro's 4th volume in his bio of Lyndon Johnson. How sad was I when I looked around the Internet for info on Vol 5, the final (I hope) book, to find out it is 4 or 5 years away!
It's not that I don't know how it's going to end, but I've grown to like Caro's writing over the last 2500-2600 pages.

Posted by: Three and One at April 07, 2019 12:34 PM (3xfw+)

404 Mollie Jackson did a cover of "Feel Like Making Love." Damn, that voice.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 07, 2019 12:34 PM (5aX2M)

405 Millie not mollie damn autocucumber.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 07, 2019 12:35 PM (5aX2M)

406 The epilogue is a real killer that provides a checklist of things you should try to avoid while trying to hide/bury a body.

Make sure your CO neighbor doesn't have a ring/doorbell ...

Posted by: Adriane the TruCrime Critic ... at April 07, 2019 12:35 PM (LPnfS)

407 But Don Cornelius is dead! Who could fill his place?
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 12:31 PM (cfSRQ)

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The Reverend Al. Green not Sharpton.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 07, 2019 12:37 PM (5aX2M)

408 It's not that I don't know how it's going to end, but I've grown to like Caro's writing over the last 2500-2600 pages.


Posted by: Three and One at April 07, 2019 12:34 PM (3xfw+)

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Reading 2500 pages on LBJ seems like one of the upper circles of the Inferno.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 12:39 PM (cfSRQ)

409 "... offshore and because the Gulf is deep. By my math,the total oil

spilled would only fill Yankee Stadium, were it closed off and turned

into a pool, and the Gulf averages a mile deep" Posted by: Ignoramus
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"Oil seeps into the Gulf naturally and their are microbes that eat it." Lloyd

A few claimed there is the same amount annually from seeps, as from the BP mess. But closing all drilling (while shipping out a deep water rig to help Petrobras and Soros?) was especially unfair, since BP had like 95% of all the warnings/sanctions. They were the bad actor.


And when one judge stopped the Obama moratorium, Obama (his thugs, he ain't that smart) just ordered up another one. lawless.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 07, 2019 12:39 PM (Cus5s)

410
And when one judge stopped the Obama moratorium, Obama (his thugs, he ain't that smart) just ordered up another one. lawless.


Posted by: illiniwek at April 07, 2019 12:39 PM (Cus5s)

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You'd like the book. It looks at the internal messaging that was going on.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 12:41 PM (cfSRQ)

411 The reader will not only be shown Lizzy Bordon taking a few whacks at her parents but also the story of Jane Toppan who liked to climb in bed with her victims.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2019 12:16 PM (AfyLj)


Um...

Would that be before or after?

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at April 07, 2019 12:42 PM (mO09S)

412 What is the utube alternative? Looking for Julia Child French onion soup vid.

Posted by: Infidel at April 07, 2019 12:43 PM (9L2du)

413 Would that be before or after?

During. Toppan liked to be there close and personal as her victims transitioned to death.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2019 12:43 PM (AfyLj)

414 But closing all drilling (while shipping out a deep water rig to help Petrobras and Soros?) was especially unfair, since BP had like 95% of all the warnings/sanctions. They were the bad actor.

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My best friend told me during all that if a company man told him to run a rig like they were doing at BP, he'd walk off the job before someone got killed.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 07, 2019 12:44 PM (5aX2M)

415 40
24 Question - Getting a book from Amazon but comes from a book house
anywhere in the country does it work the same as getting it from Amazon?

So far only have bought directly from Amazon, and would like a hard copy not e-book.

Posted by: Skip at April 07, 2019 09:19 AM (BbGew)
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=The vast majority of books sold at Amazon are sold by 3rd party sellers who pay amazon a commission to use their storefront to display their books.You can often find an inexpensive ($3-5 including shipping) copy of many books from the big sellers and your book will be mailed in a plastic bag a little stronger than your grocery store's bags. Or you can pay a bit more and buy from an indy store (like mine) that takes a bit more care in packaging your book.
The thing to remember -- especially if you have a prime account -- is that standard shipping for the 3rd party sellers is Book Rate NOT Priority Mail. But if you don't mind waiting 7-10 days for cross country delivery, it's great.

Posted by: Three and One at April 07, 2019 12:44 PM (3xfw+)

416 My best friend told me during all that if a company
man told him to run a rig like they were doing at BP, he'd walk off the
job before someone got killed.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 07, 2019 12:44 PM (5aX2M)

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And yet they got off with nothing more than a hefty fine.

Funny, that.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 12:46 PM (cfSRQ)

417 E.g. My fiance' instead of my intended.
Posted by: JAS at April 07, 2019 09:16 AM (KOCKb)


Because in this day and age, intended is a little too open ended ???

Posted by: Adriane the TruCrime Critic ... at April 07, 2019 12:47 PM (LPnfS)

418 392
by commenting on a book that someone is looking at



Yeah but that would require you to be looking around at other people instead of at books.

not necessarily. you might mutter something out loud about a book that someone else also happens to be looking at.

Posted by: Anachronda at April 07, 2019 12:53 PM (IHkCi)

419 Funny, that.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at April 07, 2019 12:46 PM (cfSRQ)

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Yeah. I don't remember all the details he told me, but basically he said that the way they were operating, a major disaster was inevitable at some point, and he wouldn't want to be responsible for his guys getting killed. He scoffed at the notion it would cause permanent damage to the ocean.

He was just astounded that BP (a reputable firm) would be so completely cheap with the lives of its men.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 07, 2019 12:53 PM (SNuRE)

420 370 He relates the story of a number of
Japanese women who burned to death on the upper floor of a building
rather than to jump to safety exposing the sanctum sanctorum. After
that, Japanese women began wearing panties

hmm. i had always assumed that japanese women had been bribed into wearing panties via a profit-sharing agreement with the inventor of the famed japanese used panty vending machine.

Posted by: Anachronda at April 07, 2019 01:00 PM (IHkCi)

421 Overseeding complete!

Posted by: Weasel at April 07, 2019 01:04 PM (MAbRE)

422 1. Don Camillo! Love!!!!!

2. Finished 3 things this week (all started previously): The Psychopath Test by Jon Ronson, because I gave it to my son for Christmas and he finished it. We wanted to talk about it. Overall, OK. Not more than that. Then finished Digital Minimalism by Cal Newport. I'm not it's target audience, I don't think. I'm not tied to my phone 24/7. But my granddaughter is and I wanted some ideas to approach her with. The section on building a more rewarding and robust leisure time in your life was quite good. And finally I finished the audiobook of Trollope's Phineas Finn, read by Timothy West. Completely, completely excellent. I am such a Trollope groupie.

3. Go Texas Tech! (Sorry - had to throw it in - it's all we think about around CasaS these days.)

Posted by: SummaMamaT at April 07, 2019 01:04 PM (FowyX)

423 Time for a bologna and cheese sammich!

Posted by: Weasel at April 07, 2019 01:07 PM (MAbRE)

424 Some interesting recs, OM!

I don't always have a comment, but I always appreciate this Sunday morning mainstay. Thanks!

Posted by: Gem at April 07, 2019 01:13 PM (XoAz8)

425 hmm. i had always assumed that japanese women had been bribed into wearing panties via a profit-sharing agreement with the inventor of the famed japanese used panty vending machine.
Posted by: Anachronda at April 07, 2019 01:00 PM (IHkCi)

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Pantatsu Corp's tentacles are everywhere.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 07, 2019 01:19 PM (SNuRE)

426 The Don Camillo of 1959 is the same as the Don
Camillo of 1952, and I have written this story - even if it is
out-of-date for the 'amusement' and (forgive my heavy-handedness) for
the'spiritual profit' of the few friends I have left in the disjointed
world of today.



Roncole-Verdi, August 16 1963



Giovanni Guareschi"

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 07, 2019 09:23 AM (oVJmc)
-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-`-Don Camillo was a wonderful series of stories and books. Fr. John Zuhlsdorf, who hosts the site wdtprs dot com has recorded several of the stories and they can still be found online. Fr. Z has a most mellifluous voice and the stories are most enjoyable to listen to.

Posted by: Three and One at April 07, 2019 01:19 PM (3xfw+)

427 They werent gold seeking ants but they were marmots, now thucydides is the one who accepted as the real historian but that's much like accepting Kennedy partisan Maxwell Taylor as the authoritative Vietnam chronicler.
Posted by: Admiral marcus at April 07, 2019 10:07 AM (OP+PJ)


Yes, that link you provided elsewhere gave a very telling explication of the marmots plus a lack of complete fluency in whatever tongue the Persians used back then. Ryszard Kapuscinsky weighed in also on just what Herodotus was up against: on his own with no corporate backing going to furrin countries where he doesn't speak the language or local dialect and has to get people who know things to tell him what is what with the very real chance that telling it to strangers would get him or her croaked. Then he had to figure out how to make money from that knowledge. Pretty amazing feat.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 07, 2019 01:20 PM (y7DUB)

428 Another book I finished last week was Calculating God, on recommendation from someone here. Its an interesting concept with aliens landing and demanding to see a paleontologist. They're interested in extinction events on earth because on their planets they had five events in the past at almsot exactly the same time as on earth and they want to know why and how. But there's a twist: all the aliens are theists.

So the book has a fair amount of interesting arguments over intelligent design (including some speculation like "there were 8 previous contractions and explosions of the universe" and "there is a fifth, unifying force we discovered but I won't tell you about."). Its well written and interesting to read, and I liked it all right.

But it has a few flaws. There's an utterly pointless side plot involving icky fundamentalists and the "god" that these guys believe in is basically super Spock, a very old being that somehow survived the contraction of the universe and its explosion. This "god" directs and intervenes sometimes in the development of different races (once in a very dramatic, albeit sort of pointless manner in the book) but isn't a creator, isn't all-powerful, isn't the source of all justice and virtue, etc.

In fact the goals and actions of this "god" are in the end really disappointing but I don't want to spoil the entire book. Let's just say it didn't make a lot of sense and negate the meaning and significance of the entire previous book and discussions of intelligent design.

So, interesting concept and engaging reading but swing and a miss, ultimately.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 07, 2019 01:47 PM (39g3+)

429 That librarian in the short red mini was useless she never went up the ladder to show me her first editions.


Shussh shussh she is blowing the dust off Mr.Micawber...the Dickens you say................fwaaahhh.

Posted by: saf at April 07, 2019 01:47 PM (5IHGB)

430 I'm reading the Screwtape Letters for my book club and every chapter is a description of where our society is now. Chapter 7 is so on the money it's scary. He all but calls them "SJW's." '

Posted by: vivi at April 07, 2019 01:50 PM (11H2y)

431 Lewis saw what was coming very clearly and warned everyone but nobody wanted to listen

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 07, 2019 02:23 PM (39g3+)

432 Just gonna drop this here.

https://twitter.com/41Strange

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 07, 2019 02:40 PM (kQs4Y)

433 Eris, that site is what Twittr should be. Great stuff.

Posted by: Gem at April 07, 2019 04:21 PM (XoAz8)

434 Its like you read my mind! You appear to know so much about
this, like you wrote the book in it or something. I think that you can do with some pics to drive the message home a little bit, but other than that,
this is excellent blog. A fantastic read. I will certainly be back.

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