Reparations in the time of Jussie [KT]

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Yesterday, Jeff Jacoby ran a piece on reparations for slavery which concluded that there was no way to make such reparations justly. The Democrats apparently think that argument is so 2017. The piece starts:

Reparations for American slavery are a misbegotten idea, unworkable and unjust, but every now and then they come back into vogue as a political talking point.

In 1969, the radical civil rights activist James Forman made headlines when he seized the pulpit of New York's Riverside Church and issued a "black manifesto" demanding $500 million in reparations for African enslavement. Thirty years later, Randall Robinson, founder of the black social-justice organization TransAfrica, revived the reparations movement with his bestselling book "The Debt: What America Owes to Blacks."

Now progressive Democrats, or at least some of the ones running for their party's 2020 presidential nomination, are going through another such phase. Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren, California Senator Kamala Harris, and former San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro have all indicated in recent weeks that they support some form of reparations to benefit the descendants of American slaves.

"I believe it's time to start the national, full-blown conversation about reparations," Warren said at a CNN event in Mississippi, where she endorsed legislation to create a commission of experts to propose a system of compensation for slavery.

So, what happened to that last national, full-blown conversation?

The election of Barack Obama, America's first black president, was supposed to be a sign of our national maturity, a chance to transform the charged, stilted "national conversation" about race into a smarter and more authentic dialogue, led by a president who was also one of the nation's subtlest thinkers and writers on the topic.

Instead, the conversation just got dumber.

The America of 2010 is dominated by racial images out of farce and parody, caricatures not seen since the glory days of Shaft.

Of course, the "farce and parody" of 2010 don't come close to Jussie Smollett and the two Nigerians his attorney (not Mark Geragos) suggested were in white face while staging a racist attack on him in "MAGA country", AKA downtown Chicago.

Would such farce and parody end with a new, full-blown conversation about reparations?

Also yesterday, J.J. Sefton picked up a piece by Heather MacDonald on the Smollett travesty: When Prosecutorial Discretion is Woke.

Had Smollett been a straight white male who had staged his own attack by fake Antifa Trump antagonists, he would most certainly still be facing a trial and the prospect of prison time. But Foxx is a leading figure in the recent national wave of progressive local prosecutors who came to power by playing race politics. She campaigned on the Critical Race Theory credo that the criminal-justice system is endemically biased. She inveighed against the so-called school-to-prison pipeline and promised to reduce racial disparities in prosecutions. Last month, she dismissed aggravated battery charges against a 16-year-old student who had attacked two Chicago police officers; the Chicago police union argued that her dismissal of the charges fit a pattern of favoring offenders over police officers. Foxx operates in a cultural milieu that holds that the fact that a hate crime is a hoax is less important than the fact that it could have been true. Prosecuting Smollett could have sent another black man to prison. Is there a race-based system of justice here?

Not surprisingly, Smollett is still availing himself of the rhetoric of academic victimology, vowing to "fight for the justice, equality, and betterment of marginalized people everywhere." His attorney dodged a press question about whether he would sue the police department; let's hope that Smollett's narcissism overwhelms any prudence on the part of his legal team and he reopens the case to public scrutiny. . .

More and more law school graduates, steeped in Believe Survivors ideology and critical race theory, will enter positions of power in the criminal-justice system in the coming years. Whether they erode our expectations of political neutrality in favor of "social justice" remains to be seen. One thing is certain, however: the dismissal of the Smollett indictment will encourage more such social justice-inspired hate-crime hoaxes, which will continue to find a credulous audience in the media and among academic and political elites.

Think a "national conversation" on reparations for slavery would change this?

A little earlier this month, Coleman Hughes wrote a piece on Reparations and Ta-Nehisi Coates's Pyrrhic Victory. As others have suggested before, this young black man, still an undergraduate, might need a bodyguard if he continues to write like this. Stay safe, Mr. Hughes.

He brings up some points about reparations you don't often read.

In 2014, Ta-Nehisi Coates was catapulted to intellectual stardom by a lengthy Atlantic polemic entitled "The Case for Reparations." The essay was an impassioned plea for Americans to grapple with the role of slavery, Jim Crow, and redlining in the creation of the wealth gap between blacks and whites, and it provoked a wide range of reactions. . .

Coates himself, as recently as 2017, lamented that the idea of reparations was "roundly dismissed as crazy" and "remained far outside the borders of American politics."

In the past month, we've all been proven wrong. Senators Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris have both endorsed the idea, and House speaker Nancy Pelosi has voiced support for proposals to study the effects of historical racism and suggest ways to compensate the descendants of slaves. These people are not on the margins of American politics.

Let me pre-empt an objection: neither Harris nor Warren has endorsed a race-specific program of reparations. Indeed Harris has made it clear that what she's calling "reparations" is really just an income-based policy by another name. The package of policies hasn't changed; only the label on the package has. So who cares?

In electoral politics, however, it is precisely the label that matters. Given that there's nothing about her policies that requires Harris to slap the "reparations" label onto them, her decision to employ it suggests that it now has such positive connotations on the Left that she can't reject the label without paying a political price.

He then makes a lucid argument that Coates is undercutting his own ideology about the enduring white supremacy of America by making reparations an acceptable subject to the political left. You should read through it. He also goes a lot deeper, working up to this shocker to the Left:

Yes, in the narrow context of American history, blacks have been uniquely mistreated. But in the wider context of world history, black Americans are hardly unique and should not be treated as such.

Finally, the framing of the reparations debate presupposes that America has done nothing meaningful by way of compensation for black people. But in many ways, America has already paid reparations. . . .

My point is not that these race-conscious policies have repaid the debt of slavery; my point is that no policy ever could. For this reason I reject the appeasement-based case for reparations occasionally made by conservatives--namely, that we should pay reparations so that we can finally stop talking about racism once and for all. Common sense dictates that when you reward a certain behavior you tend to get more of it, not less. Reparations, therefore, would not, and could not, function as "hush money." Reparations would instead function as a kind of subsidy for activism, an incentive for the living to continue appropriating grievances that rightfully belong to the dead.

And he also discusses symbolic acknowledgement of slavery and racism. An unusually cohesive piece. I recommend it.

This brings us back to the thoroughly non-cohesive saga of Jussie Smollett and its symbolic role in American life. Would "reparations", monetary or symbolic, make a difference in Jussie's fantasy world that somehow gets accepted as at least potentially real by large segments of our society?

What about the two Nigerian brothers? They are not descended from American slaves. How are they doing now, compared to Jussie? Would "reparations" affect them?

Would Jussie be part of that "national conversation"? I can hardly wait to find out . . . . . .

Hope you don't have to think about Jussie too much this weekend.

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1 First? No way

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019 11:23 AM (BbGew)

2 And read most of the content, will fetch em

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019 11:24 AM (BbGew)

3 Dutifully done

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019 11:25 AM (BbGew)

4 Reparations? How about some to the thousands of descendants of Union Soldiers who died, too? Certainly wasn't any white privilege there.

Posted by: Ever at March 30, 2019 11:26 AM (Brfdf)

5 Think I'll Skip being first.

HA!

Posted by: Tonypete at March 30, 2019 11:27 AM (Y4EXg)

6 Well, how about reparations for say, the Spanish Inquisition?
Must be some people related to Jews imprisoned or tortured from the 1500s

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019 11:27 AM (BbGew)

7 Reparations for blacks is a start. But, what we really need are reparations for LGBTUVWXYZ individuals. Especially transgenders. They've been hit especially hard. And they liked it.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at March 30, 2019 11:29 AM (3sjI6)

8 Round 2 of the Bahrain grand prix qualifying on ESPN 2

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019 11:30 AM (BbGew)

9 The first argument after reparations are paid will be how it wasn't enough and there needs to be more.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 30, 2019 11:30 AM (oVJmc)

10 Reparations for Waco.

Posted by: torabora at March 30, 2019 11:31 AM (Y274z)

11 My family came to this country about 70 years after the civil war ended. Fuck you I'm paying for something I had nothing to do with.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at March 30, 2019 11:31 AM (FiUMj)

12 Looked this up during a thread couple of weeks ago, last slaves held living died around the 1930s, we are quickly getting to no person alive even knew anyone who knew someone who was a slave.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019 11:32 AM (BbGew)

13 The first argument after reparations are paid will be how it wasn't enough and there needs to be more.


Posted by: Mr. Peebles
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Considering the Pigford Settlement, I'd say you are correct Sir!


Posted by: Tonypete at March 30, 2019 11:32 AM (Y4EXg)

14 I need reparations for the time that the cab drove right by me.

Posted by: Jessie Jackson, Race Hustler at March 30, 2019 11:32 AM (Y274z)

15 In the Navy, I had a subordinate of mine who was Black. We were the same rank although I was senior.

I had a better record, better test scores, better evaluations, more experience, and a job which entailed much more authority.

He got promoted, I did not.

As this came towards the end of my career, and partly made up my mind as to when to retire, this has cost me HUNDREDS of dollars every month in retirement.

I submit, that due to affirmative action, I have, and continue to pay, reparations.

Bite me.

Posted by: Don Q at March 30, 2019 11:33 AM (NgKpN)

16 How about we do reparations on a this basis... We can pay out the blacks. Then they can turn around and transfer all that money to the other minority communities around the country who've incurred huge damages during America's frequent city-wrecking black riots.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 30, 2019 11:33 AM (xwpAQ)

17 And here I thought "Django Unchained" cleared all of this up!

Psst! The "dee" is silent.

Posted by: Fritz at March 30, 2019 11:33 AM (LuPts)

18 We opened for Johnny Reb and the Slavedrivers at the Filmore.

Posted by: Reparations at March 30, 2019 11:34 AM (Y274z)

19 Willowed:

Just saw a local news feature about some #RidiculousBullshit called Proposition 300, Denver's Right-to-Survive Initiative, which is a measure to turn Denver into San Francisco by designating all outdoor public property in the city as the property of homeless people for their shantytowns.

The proponents they interviewed are the usual gang of agenda-driven cultural Marxist psychopaths.

But the part that makes me laugh are the measure's opponents... a bunch of prissy urban liberals with out-of-state accents who have their tails in a knot now that the psycho Marxists they voted in are affecting their high-toned lifestyle.

Get over it, guys... you're the ones who turned this city into a cobalt-blue shithole. Now you can choke on it.

*spit*

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 30, 2019 11:35 AM (xwpAQ)

20 Let me pre-empt an objection: neither Harris nor Warren has endorsed a race-specific program of reparations. Indeed Harris has made it clear that what she's calling "reparations" is really just an income-based policy by another name. The package of policies hasn't changed; only the label on the package has.

So it's just an increase in welfare, in other words. Which means that 20 years from now, a new generation of black activists will still be demanding "reparations".

Posted by: rickl at March 30, 2019 11:36 AM (sdi6R)

21 Will Jussie with the NAACP Image Award today? If Jussie pushes his way into the packed field, it could be a climactic moment for civil rights in this country.

Posted by: I like cookies at March 30, 2019 11:36 AM (xxAFD)

22 "Ridiculous Bullshit" H/T The Donald.

Posted by: dingbat at March 30, 2019 11:37 AM (BvH+8)

23 Having a National Discussion on Reparations in The Thread before Gardening?

Hard to see how things could get more Rayciss than that right there.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 30, 2019 11:38 AM (8ZmvG)

24 Chiquita Khrushchev is calling for war!

AOC: After 9/11, we went to war "against one and then two countries." 3,000 people died in Hurricane Maria -- "where is our response"?

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We shall fight on Fox, we shall fight on MSNBC, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength on the air, we shall defend our insanity, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the morning shows, we shall fight on the campuses and in the streets, we shall fight on th Hill; we shall never surrender!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 30, 2019 11:38 AM (+y/Ru)

25 I have ancestors who fought in The Civil War to free the slaves. I want my cut.

Posted by: I like cookies at March 30, 2019 11:38 AM (xxAFD)

26 Stones just postponed their summer North American tour due to a health issue with Mick. Hope he gets better soon.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 30, 2019 11:38 AM (PUmDY)

27 Just in: El Chapo's hussy wife will be marketing an "El Chapo" fashion line, so the illegal alien heroin dealers in your town can cut a stylish figure while they hollow out your urban centers.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 30, 2019 11:39 AM (xwpAQ)

28 Dennis Prager points out in fake hate crimes that in 1930's Germany were any Jews faking hate crimes against Jewish business or synagogue? No obviously because those crimes were real and a daily event. So why would one need to fake hate crimes if it was so prevalent?

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019 11:40 AM (BbGew)

29 would any black person (directly descended from slaves, not recent imports) in America today, be better off if their great great grandparents had not been captured (by Africans mostly) and shipped to America as slaves? Cassius Clay (Muhammad Ali) said he was glad his grandparents "got on that boat". That is an honest assessment.


But there are about 100 other reasons it is insane to keep pushing this divisive BS. And why do Hispanics from Guatemala get included in the whole "diversity, American white boy owes us" scam? It is all Cloward-Piven and Critical Theory ... defeat the West planning by oligarchs. We need to unite as free Americans to fight the commie threat ... from China, for instance, but also from within the DC Cartels.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 30, 2019 11:40 AM (Cus5s)

30 23 Having a National Discussion on Reparations in The Thread before Gardening?

Hard to see how things could get more Rayciss than that right there.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 30, 2019 11:38 AM (8ZmvG)


Unless the topic of the Gardening Thread is cotton growing.

Posted by: rickl at March 30, 2019 11:40 AM (sdi6R)

31 I think DEMOCRATS, who fought a war to preserve slavery, should pay reparations.
Both to descendants of slaves and descendants of Union soldiers KIA.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at March 30, 2019 11:41 AM (dm05u)

32 Reparations? How about some to the thousands of descendants of Union Soldiers who died, too? Certainly wasn't any white privilege there.

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And 50 years of the Great Society.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 30, 2019 11:41 AM (+y/Ru)

33 >>>Having a National Discussion on Reparations in The Thread before Gardening?<<<

I'll call your forty acres and a mule and raise you 1000 acres of taters and national money-laundering juggernaut.

Posted by: Fritz at March 30, 2019 11:41 AM (LuPts)

34 I don't know of any Civil war veterans in my family but my uncle's great- grandfather lost a leg at Fredericksburg, must be worth a few.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019 11:42 AM (BbGew)

35 Yeah, let's force millions of Americans who never owned slaves to pay billions of dollars to people who never were slaves, all in the name of reparative "justice."

Because what could be more fair than that?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 30, 2019 11:42 AM (fqUgw)

36 Well, how about reparations for say, the Spanish Inquisition?
Must be some people related to Jews imprisoned or tortured from the 1500s
Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019 11:27 AM (BbGew)


I'm not. But that's not what's important. What matters is that I could have been.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 30, 2019 11:43 AM (t+qrx)

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If anybody should be on the hook for reparations it's the democratic party,they are the party of slavery and Jim Crow. I'd be okaywith taking half the money the DNC raises every year and putting it towards paying their debt for the evil they have inflicted on African Americans.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 30, 2019 11:43 AM (TAmPV)

38 I'm owed something because I'm not the descendant of slaves and am therefore being discriminated against when the money starts flowing.

Posted by: Weasel at March 30, 2019 11:43 AM (MVjcR)

39 OT: Been away for a week or so, y'all. Just bought a newer car (a '15 BMW 328i, if it matters) and have been enjoying it and buying stuff for it. I've missed this place, though!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 30, 2019 11:43 AM (y658g)

40 So, are all of the descendants of people who immigrated here after the civil war on the hook to pay for this?

Posted by: DR.WTF at March 30, 2019 11:43 AM (aS1PU)

41 I'm investing in tennis shoe, Cognac, and tiny cigar companies if the reparations debate gains any traction.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 30, 2019 11:44 AM (tITQq)

42 When you get too old to ride an ordinary motorcycle.

https://bit.ly/2uyo1E5

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 30, 2019 11:45 AM (+y/Ru)

43 How about we do reparations on a this basis... We can pay out the blacks. Then they can turn around and transfer all that money to the other minority communities around the country who've incurred huge damages during America's frequent city-wrecking black riots.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 30, 2019 11:33 AM (xwpAQ)

So, we still get to pay for it. Thank God!--Whitey.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at March 30, 2019 11:45 AM (3sjI6)

44 I'm investing in tennis shoe, Cognac, and tiny cigar companies if the reparations debate gains any traction.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 30, 2019 11:44 AM (tITQq)


One word. Monocles.

Posted by: Monopoly Guy at March 30, 2019 11:45 AM (aS1PU)

45 I'm investing in tennis shoe, Cognac, and tiny cigar companies if the reparations debate gains any traction.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 30, 2019 11:44 AM (tITQq)


Steel Reserve 211 distributorship.

Posted by: Unindicted Co-Conspirator at March 30, 2019 11:45 AM (vqIkG)

46 So, are all of the descendants of people who immigrated here after the civil war on the hook to pay for this?

Posted by: DR.WTF at March 30, 2019 11:43 AM (aS1PU)


First we rape the environment and pump all the oil out of the ground. Then we swap populations with Mexico and Venezuela and leave them holding the bag.

Posted by: I like cookies at March 30, 2019 11:46 AM (xxAFD)

47 Denver is Los Angeles but without the beach and nice weather. Overrun with illegals, run by communists and populated by work as fuck milenials.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at March 30, 2019 11:46 AM (FiUMj)

48 Wolfus - Sure, enjoy the open road and forget about us, we don't mind.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019 11:46 AM (BbGew)

49 We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the
morning shows, we shall fight on the campuses and in the streets, we
shall fight on th Hill; we shall never surrender!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 30, 2019]/i]
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"We shall fight in the trenches, we shall fight in the manhole covers, we shall fight in the cesspools --"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 30, 2019 11:46 AM (y658g)

50 I'm investing in tennis shoe, Cognac, and tiny cigar companies if the reparations debate gains any traction.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 30, 2019 11:44 AM (tITQq)

Versace boots, malt liquor, and crack would be a much more profitable choice.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at March 30, 2019 11:46 AM (3sjI6)

51 So, are all of the descendants of people who immigrated here after the civil war on the hook to pay for this?

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White guilt is like original sin; you're born with it and there's nothing you can do.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 30, 2019 11:47 AM (+y/Ru)

52 AOC: After 9/11, we went to war "against one and then two countries." 3,000 people died in Hurricane Maria -- "where is our response"?
_________________

Donkey-Chompers is right! President Trump should immediately declare war against Mother Nature for what she did to Puerto Rico!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 30, 2019 11:47 AM (fqUgw)

53 Down to Qualifying 3, Ferraris on top in Q2, but Mercedes and Haas right behind.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019 11:48 AM (BbGew)

54 34 I don't know of any Civil war veterans in my family but my uncle's great- grandfather lost a leg at Fredericksburg, must be worth a few.
Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019 11:42 AM (BbGew)

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Uhm wouldn't your uncle's great grandfather be in your family?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at March 30, 2019 11:48 AM (FiUMj)

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48
Wolfus - Sure, enjoy the open road and forget about us, we don't mind.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019

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Not a lot of open road around here until you get a half an hour outside the metro area, unfortunately. I never forgot about you all, but there's only so much time in a day to read BMW forums, and then there's that pesky thing called, what is it now? Oh, yes. "Work."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 30, 2019 11:49 AM (y658g)

56 AOC: After 9/11, we went to war "against one and then two countries." 3,000 people died in Hurricane Maria -- "where is our response"?
_________________

Donkey-Chompers is right! President Trump should immediately declare war against Mother Nature for what she did to Puerto Rico!
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 30, 2019 11:47 AM (fqUgw)


Nuke the weather machines!

Posted by: DR.WTF at March 30, 2019 11:49 AM (aS1PU)

57 Reparations would be a boon for education funding.

Scratch off lottery ticket sales would soar overnight.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 30, 2019 11:49 AM (tITQq)

58 Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 30, 2019 11:43 AM (TAmPV)

Take it one step further.

According to Lefty Logic (an oxymoron), as a White person I am guilty of anything any White has ever done, and must pay.

Well, Congress is the ones who passed the laws that made Slavery Legal. Thus by the above Logic, EVERY Congressman is guilty of what Past Congressmen did.

As Congress has much more direct guilt in this, sitting Congressmen should be the ones to PERSONALLY pay reparations.

Posted by: Don Q at March 30, 2019 11:49 AM (NgKpN)

59 If I remember right Sandy's "3000" dead is a bullshit number

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019 11:50 AM (BbGew)

60 56
Nuke the weather machines!
Posted by: DR.WTF at March 30, 2019 11:49 AM (aS1PU)


Will the antisemitism never stop?

Posted by: rickl at March 30, 2019 11:50 AM (sdi6R)

61 @30 I have been reliably informed that southern plantations were replete with brick sidewalks because hoeing the weeds out of them, on the way to the fields, was the cheapest way to keep hoes sharp.

We should never assume that slave labor was applied only to cotton. There were also rice and indigo. Jefferson spent a lot of time keeping records and observations of his plant experiments. Hard to believe he ever actually turned a spadeful of soil -- unlike his pen-pal Adams, who hand-mixed his own manures. Maybe the Adamses were just kind of stuck-up, and didn't trust the help to do the really important things.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 30, 2019 11:50 AM (8ZmvG)

62 So it's just an increase in welfare, in other words.
Which means that 20 years from now, a new generation of black
activists will still be demanding "reparations".

Posted by: rickl at March 30, 2019 11:36 AM (sdi6R)

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The problem is that if a policy is sold as reparations, white people can't get it. So the whole "we're really talking about a poverty entitlement" won't cut it.

The left's radicals are all-in on this, and even if it's done on a "everyone by whites get a check," there will be hard feelings because upscale Asians will get money, too.

When the country was 90 percent white and 10 percent black, carve-outs for blacks were politically viable. Now, the Dem coalition has too many mutually-hostile elements for it to work.

For example, do Muslims get reparations? What about white Muslim converts? How do you verify the strength of their faith?

I saw on Instapundit Linda Sarsour's already getting the "you're just white girl in a hijab" treatment.

Go long on popcorn futures.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2019 11:51 AM (cfSRQ)

63 Why should all Americans pay restitution for a crime that the DEMOCRATIC PARTY is guilty of?

Posted by: gastorgrab at March 30, 2019 11:51 AM (u6OFe)

64 Since fellow Africans are the ones that captured and sold slaves to the Brits who then shipped them to America, shouldn't 2/3 of the reparations come from Africa and the UK?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at March 30, 2019 11:51 AM (FiUMj)

65 Go long on fawties, blunts and track suits.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 30, 2019 11:52 AM (ywNoU)

66 ...For example, do Muslims get reparations?...
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2019 11:51 AM (cfSRQ)


They're the ones still dealing in slaves.

Posted by: DR.WTF at March 30, 2019 11:52 AM (aS1PU)

67 Uhm wouldn't your uncle's great grandfather be in your family?
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at March 30, 2019 11:48 AM (FiUMj)


His leg wouldn't be.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 30, 2019 11:53 AM (t+qrx)

68 While reading the article I couldn't help but be glad Smollette chose Chicago for his farce. Cameras everywhere, few to none MAGA hat wearers, really inclement weather, and 2:00 a.m. all of those things combined to cast doubt on his story. Had he tried that script in a place with no cameras and lots of authentic MAGA types it would have been harder to disprove. It would have been just as made up but less people would have questioned his story.

Posted by: Chillin the most at March 30, 2019 11:53 AM (lonOK)

69 Liberia is where these people belong. Not America.

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2019 11:53 AM (oABSc)

70 Denver is Los Angeles but without the beach and nice weather. Overrun with illegals, run by communists and populated by work as fuck milenials.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at March 30, 2019 11:46 AM (FiUMj)

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It's a heartbreaker. In recent memory, this was a "City of Broad Shoulders" like they used to call Chicago. It had a lot of its own character. A western city, rooted in individualism and a can-do attitude. Then the invaders came and took over. And sad to say, the most aggressive and destructive have been lily-white - those commie millennials you mentioned.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 30, 2019 11:53 AM (xwpAQ)

71 Was that racist of me? At this point, I don't give a fuck. You've overplayed your hand. I refuse to feel guilty about shit I had nothing to so with, and sure as hell ain't accepting liability for it. Take your reparations demands and shove them up your ass.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 30, 2019 11:54 AM (ywNoU)

72 66 ...For example, do Muslims get reparations?...
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2019 11:51 AM (cfSRQ)

They're the ones still dealing in slaves.
Posted by: DR.WTF at March 30, 2019 11:52 AM (aS1PU)

This. There are now open air SLAVE markets in Libya, because of the Chaos brought on by the Obama and Clinton cabal.

Yet here we are talking slavery from 150 years ?

When there is ACTUAL slavery in the world?

Posted by: Don Q at March 30, 2019 11:55 AM (NgKpN)

73 Lurking Lurker. The guy who wants to bitch about "milenials" that he can't spell. Hey, Lurker, you a "White Supremist" too?

I make jokes about you every day.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 30, 2019 11:55 AM (8ZmvG)

74 Uhm wouldn't your uncle's great grandfather be in your family?

Well, if by marriage maybe not so much

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019 11:55 AM (BbGew)

75 Can't decide on whether or not to have a pre tax return cigar.

Posted by: Weasel at March 30, 2019 11:55 AM (MVjcR)

76
AOC: After 9/11, we went to war "against one and then two countries." 3,000 people died in Hurricane Maria -- "where is our response"? _________________


All seventeen intelligence angencies believe Hurricane Maria is currently hiding out somewhereon the frontier along the Pakastani, Afghan border.As soon as they locate her exact position they'll take her out with a drone strike.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 30, 2019 11:55 AM (TAmPV)

77 This. There are now open air SLAVE markets in Libya, because of the Chaos brought on by the Obama and Clinton cabal.

Yet here we are talking slavery from 150 years ?

When there is ACTUAL slavery in the world?
Posted by: Don Q at March 30, 2019 11:55 AM (NgKpN)

They aren't culpable because CRUSADES!!!

Posted by: Insomniac at March 30, 2019 11:56 AM (ywNoU)

78 Hey y'all! Colorado Morondevous April 27th!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow.........the sidekick at March 30, 2019 11:56 AM (c1nDO)

79 >>Posted by: Insomniac at March 30, 2019 11:54 AM (ywNoU)


Your Newsletter.

Send it to me.

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2019 11:56 AM (oABSc)

80 68
While reading the article I couldn't help but be glad Smollette chose
Chicago for his farce. Cameras everywhere, few to none MAGA hat wearers,
really inclement weather, and 2:00 a.m. all of those things combined to
cast doubt on his story. Had he tried that script in a place with no
cameras and lots of authentic MAGA types it would have been harder to
disprove. It would have been just as made up but less people would have
questioned his story.

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It will be interesting to see if the NAACP is stupid enough to give Smollett an award.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2019 11:57 AM (cfSRQ)

81 All seventeen intelligence angencies believe Hurricane Maria is currently hiding out somewhereon the frontier along the Pakastani, Afghan border.As soon as they locate her exact position they'll take her out with a drone strike.
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I think I dated Hurricane Maria, once -- right after her cousin, Pyroclastic Flo.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at March 30, 2019 11:57 AM (IFKOp)

82 Every once in awhile mostly people like Saudi's living here get caught with slaves, people held virtually prisoner forced to work without pay or permitted outside.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019 11:58 AM (BbGew)

83 I think I dated Hurricane Maria, once -- right after her cousin, Pyroclastic Flo.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at March 30, 2019 11:57 AM (IFKOp)


Pyroclastic Flo is HOT!

Posted by: DR.WTF at March 30, 2019 11:59 AM (aS1PU)

84 Garrett, saw Nick Mason's Saucerful of Secrets last night. All pre dsotm songs. Very great show.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 30, 2019 11:59 AM (PUmDY)

85 83 I think I dated Hurricane Maria, once -- right after her cousin, Pyroclastic Flo.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at March 30, 2019 11:57 AM (IFKOp)

Pyroclastic Flo is HOT!
Posted by: DR.WTF at March 30, 2019 11:59 AM (aS1PU)

Iconoclastic Flo was the real rebel.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 30, 2019 11:59 AM (ywNoU)

86 81 All seventeen intelligence angencies believe Hurricane Maria is currently hiding out somewhereon the frontier along the Pakastani, Afghan border.As soon as they locate her exact position they'll take her out with a drone strike.
-----
I think I dated Hurricane Maria, once -- right after her cousin, Pyroclastic Flo.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at March 30, 2019 11:57 AM (IFKOp)

Maria! I just met a storm named, Maria!
And suddenly I knew,
That I was just done screwed,
Today...

Posted by: Don Q at March 30, 2019 11:59 AM (NgKpN)

87 Well, if by marriage maybe not so much

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019 11:55 AM (BbGew)


I'm going to allow it. Why am I the judge? Because no more playing by Marquis of Queensbury rules, while they play by rules for radicals.

Posted by: I like cookies at March 30, 2019 12:00 PM (xxAFD)

88 Pyroclastic Flo is HOT!
Posted by: DR.WTF at March 30, 2019 11:59 AM (aS1PU)
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But not in a good way.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at March 30, 2019 12:00 PM (IFKOp)

89 Wrote the other day I hope Jussie thinks he has been so wronged he has a lawsuit against Chicago and wins a big pile of money.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019 12:00 PM (BbGew)

90 Was that racist of me?

No, it's stereotyping.

It was acceptable for Dave Chapelle to stereotype on his Comedy Central show in a skit about reparations, so it's a nationally televised, accepted form of humor.

If the article was about giving poor Southerners a reparations check to atone for carpetbagging during reconstruction I'd say invest in double-wide trailer manufacturing, WalMart and diabetes pharmaceutical manufacturing.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 30, 2019 12:00 PM (tITQq)

91 We're missing the real reason behind this. The Democrat Party Establishment's interest in reparations is a response to the extent to which they believe they are losing their hold on the black vote.

If they were polling 95%+ with Blacks, would they waste their breath with this bullshit? They are afraid Trump may make inroads with the black vote. What happens to their base if 15 or even 20% of the Black vote wanders off the plantation?

This whole thing is about waving the biggest, shiniest object they can to try to buy votes outright.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at March 30, 2019 12:01 PM (jp0Bv)

92 Tron, the World's Richest Man:


https://youtu.be/FRZN7IzvCVs

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 30, 2019 12:01 PM (5aX2M)

93 March madness!

https://bit.ly/2FFFEqM

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 30, 2019 12:01 PM (+y/Ru)

94 It will be interesting to see if the NAACP is stupid enough to give Smollett an award.



Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2019 11:57 AM (cfSRQ)


It's only stupid if it's a net negative for them among their constituents. Which is not a given.

Posted by: I like cookies at March 30, 2019 12:02 PM (xxAFD)

95
In the last thread someone was wondering who the Democrats are clearing the field for......by bringing to light Biden's creepy hair sniffing pedo vibe...etc (heads up Bernie and Liawatha (they are gunning for you next you clueless OLD WHITE PEOPLE)

My guess is Kamala Harris (a two fer...Black/Female) will be the nominee. Hands down. The media/DNC complex will LOVE being able to label every right leaning politician/voter a misogynist/racist at every opportunity for questioning or debating ANYTHING she says about ANY issue (not that they don't now).


The media will looking for any off color remark by Trump in the campaign to twist it into a 24/7 race/gender outrage to push her numbers over the top.


This also ties in with Jussie Smollett saga....as he and Kamala are tight...working on the "Time's Up" movement.... Harris and the Obamas sent out their fixer to get Jussie off the hook for his crimes in Chicago..... the fixer Tchen has ties to both Kamala and Obama.


She's the one. A blank slate much like Obama...where the media will be able to spin her every take on the issues because she has NO paper trail....unlike Hillary, who had a horrible, out in the open, track record of failure and corruption.


Kamala/Media is going to be tough to beat.

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at March 30, 2019 12:02 PM (udU2n)

96 Anyone old enough to remember when Apartheid was actually in effect? I mean when it was an operating system.

Under Apartheid, everyone in South Africa had an Official Race and there was a special office that handled appeals for people who claimed that they were in the wrong category. Being in a lower status block meant less rights so there was a constant effort for people to be declared in a higher caste.

What reparations would do is create the same thing. Right now it's informal, but if the government is going to pay out money, we'll all have to go and get our race determined so that we can get government-certified benefits.

So once again, Dems create the thing they say they hate.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2019 12:02 PM (cfSRQ)

97 41 I'm investing in tennis shoe, Cognac, and tiny cigar companies if the reparations debate gains any traction.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 30, 2019 11:44 AM (tITQq)


I'm investing in grape drank.

Posted by: Sooner at March 30, 2019 12:02 PM (Fs5vw)

98 If the article was about giving poor Southerners a reparations check to atone for carpetbagging during reconstruction I'd say invest in double-wide trailer manufacturing, WalMart and diabetes pharmaceutical manufacturing.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 30, 2019 12:00 PM (tITQq)

And Oxy.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 30, 2019 12:03 PM (ywNoU)

99 56 "Nuke the weather machines!"
The one Bush used to steer Katrina into New Orleans?

Posted by: dingbat at March 30, 2019 12:03 PM (BvH+8)

100 OK, I just can't stop looking at Joe Biden creep-a-thons.

Evidently even Gaslight Media was exposing his pervy behavior, according to this Jon Stewart clip featuring "The Audacity of Grope".

http://tinyurl.com/yxcmqro2
Samantha Bee comes in for her bit at 3:53, in case you want to skip her part.

Posted by: kalllisto at March 30, 2019 12:03 PM (DJFLF)

101 Been away for a week or so, y'all. Just bought a newer car (a '15 BMW 328i, if it matters) and have been enjoying it and buying stuff for it. I've missed this place, though!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 30, 2019 11:43 AM (y658g)

*******

Nice ride.
I have a 2005 330ci. I bought it in 2008. Still less than 50,000 miles.
When the weather is nice I put the top down and enjoy the heck out of it.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 30, 2019 12:03 PM (0tfLf)

102 It will be interesting to see if the NAACP is stupid enough to give Smollett an award.

and the Arthur Ashe Courage Award goes to.....

Posted by: ESPN at March 30, 2019 12:03 PM (tITQq)

103 Well fixed 2 of the gas lines on my tractor easy enough but the front mounting points for the engine cover are broken, so trying to permanently fix it with additional parts.
Play nice.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019 12:03 PM (BbGew)

104 I have always considered the election of Barry Obama as the functional equivalent to reparations. he was elected because he was black, end of story, end of debate, end of issue.

Posted by: goatexchange at March 30, 2019 12:04 PM (1Yxnu)

105 In the last thread someone was wondering who the Democrats are clearing
the field for......by bringing to light Biden's creepy hair sniffing
pedo vibe...etc (heads up Bernie and Liawatha (they are gunning for you
next you clueless OLD WHITE PEOPLE)

---
I got willowed on the answer to this.

The correct answer is Hillary Clinton. Her operation is behind all the leaks. She wants the whole field crippled so that she can be an 11th-hour savior.

She has two reasons to do this. The first is grift. Without the threat of higher office, her money stream will dry up. She needs that money.

The second is psychological. She is surrounded by sycophants who tell her whatever she wants to hear, so there is zero understanding of how popular she is. Also, it doesn't matter because she needs money.

The actual dirt may come from rival campaigns, but the Clintons are the source and also ordering the media to amplify it. Bet on it.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2019 12:05 PM (cfSRQ)

106 2 family ancestors in the Civil War, both fought for Wisconsin; their fates illustrate the Fortunes of War as much as anything. The first enlisted at the outbreak, rose up through the ranks til he was Colonel in command of the 21st Wisconsin; Unit wiped out and he was captured at Chickamauga, Spent a year as a POW in Libby prison in Richmond til he helped lead a breakout and made it back to Union Lines; asked to go back on duty and was made one of Sherman's Staff officers during the infamous March through Georgia. Made a brevetted General when he mustered out. (common honor at the time; "brevetted" means you're officially given the rank of General on the day you retire)

The other relative, his cousin, also enlisted, was sent to the front within two weeks, and on his very first day on the battlefield he took a bullet through the head, and that was that. As I said, Fortunes of War.

So how much do I owe in "reparations"? If we're gonna go down that road, YOU owe ME, Ta'Nasty Coats.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 30, 2019 12:06 PM (V2Yro)

107 True, slavery is bad. Not sure there is a race on the planet that hasn't seen times of slavery and being enslaved. Regarding owing reparations to the descendants of those who were once enslaved in America, I'd point out the lives of those who are the descendants of the people who live where those former slaves came from And the lives of the people who are living in Liberia. Nobody in America today owned slaves nor has anyone here today been a slave. The lives of the people who live where America's former slaves came from is fraught with cholera and other diseases, poverty that would make a poor person in America look wealthy in comparison. IOW, the descendants of those former slaves are far better off than they would have been, had there been no slavery. Reparations are paid to people whose lives have been wrongfully made less than they would have been. Only those who see reality through warped lenses can find a logical path to support reparations.

Posted by: Nolan Parker at March 30, 2019 12:06 PM (DK70w)

108 I guess it's time to go out and bring in the twig harvest. I've been putting it off long enough.

Posted by: rickl at March 30, 2019 12:07 PM (sdi6R)

109 First inclination was, "Damn, America could've got out for $500 million."

Immediately I reach the same conclusion as Mr. Hughes...

"Common sense dictates that when you reward a certain behavior you tend to get more of it, not less. "

To wit: They got their reparations in Affirmative Action. They're still on that to this day.

Posted by: golfman at March 30, 2019 12:08 PM (OE84+)

110
I have always considered the election of Barry Obama as the functional equivalent to reparations. he was elected because he was black, end of story, end of debate, end of issue.

Posted by: goatexchange at March 30, 2019 12:04 PM (1Yxnu)


Obama was Black John Edwards and John Edwards didn't have a shot at winning the presidency.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 30, 2019 12:09 PM (TAmPV)

111 If the article was about giving poor Southerners a reparations check to atone for carpetbagging during reconstruction I'd say invest in double-wide trailer manufacturing, WalMart and diabetes pharmaceutical manufacturing.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 30, 2019 12:00 PM (tITQq)

And Oxy.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 30, 2019 12:03 PM (ywNoU)

Kevin Williamson nods.

Approvingly.

Posted by: golfman at March 30, 2019 12:09 PM (OE84+)

112 Nobody in America today owned slaves nor has anyone
here today been a slave. ...

Posted by: Nolan Parker at March 30, 2019 12:06 PM (DK70w)


Not to disagree with your comment in general, but there are definitely untold numbers of sex slaves being brought in right now. And the Democrats are all for it.
Not to mention the satanic goat fucking death cult. When some Arab princess stays here she's got to have her house slaves too.

Posted by: I like cookies at March 30, 2019 12:09 PM (xxAFD)

113 This however, is the absolute worst of the Creepy Joe images. He has his hand firmly gripping the crotch of a six month old boy baby:


http://tinyurl.com/y5gwt27m

Posted by: kalllisto at March 30, 2019 12:10 PM (DJFLF)

114 Happy hour is a hell of a drug. Have a couple drinks and the next thing you know you are booking flights to go catch tarpon in the Keys next weekend.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2019 12:10 PM (/tuJf)

115 If I had a son he'd act just like Jussie Smollet.

Posted by: Obama at March 30, 2019 12:10 PM (cCxiu)

116 We need more firefighters like . . .

https://bit.ly/2TL9RcK

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 30, 2019 12:11 PM (+y/Ru)

117 Everyone will have to take a DNA test to see exactly how black they are. Then, a family history will need to be researched to see if anyone was a slave while under U.S. jurisdiction.
Then, points must be deducted for any black slave owners, slave catchers, or slave merchants.
As for non-black slaves, that is a subject for another debate.

Posted by: Frank Bass at March 30, 2019 12:11 PM (0VKYJ)

118 Nice ride.
I have a 2005 330ci. I bought it in 2008. Still less than 50,000 miles.
When the weather is nice I put the top down and enjoy the heck out of it.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 30, 2019 12:03 PM (0tfLf)

E46 > E90.

Bigly.

Don't know about the F30.

Posted by: golfman at March 30, 2019 12:12 PM (OE84+)

119 All my life I've never had a shred of racial animosity, I was raised that such things are a sin, and I still think that way.
But, I suppose that could change, given enough effort on the part of my fellow humans. They are teaching me that my mentality is wrong, and they are very persistent about it. It's a shame, really.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at March 30, 2019 12:12 PM (w7KSn)

120 So the Dems are going to continue trying to defraud the American people with ridiculous bullshit?

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at March 30, 2019 12:13 PM (3DZIZ)

121 Happy hour is a hell of a drug. Have a couple drinks and the next thing you know you are booking flights to go catch tarpon in the Keys next weekend.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2019 12:10

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Well, at least your steppin' off that sticky dank, my man. Go fishing, clear your head. Stop chasin' that green dragon for a couple days.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 30, 2019 12:13 PM (5aX2M)

122 The federal government is broke.

They can't pay shit without borrowing money.

Stop the madness.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 30, 2019 12:13 PM (Z+IKu)

123 Scalia said something like "the best way to end race discrimination is to quit discriminating based on race".

The point of course, quit making laws and special programs based on anything other than merit. Race based quotas only encourage racism, or actually they ARE racist. (same for other "minorities" like sexual status, jihadist religion, third world free stuff seeker)


And the whole "what percent brown or white (or American) are you?" determining whether you get a job, a loan, college, free stuff ... leads directly to ??? communism, or at least to the destruction of a civilized Western society.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 30, 2019 12:14 PM (Cus5s)

124 If reparations are received those that accept them earn a one way ticket back to any country they wish in Africa and a loss of US citizenship. There was a price paid for their freedom that they can never repay.

Posted by: Gmac-Officialy a fossile-Now get offa my lawn at March 30, 2019 12:14 PM (qZdIZ)

125 I don't want to have a national conversation about anything. I want everyone to shut up.

Can we have a national conversation about that? About how everybody just shut up and stop trying to have a conversation about everything?

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2019 12:14 PM (cY3LT)

126 So from perusing the trove of information regarding Joe Biden's sexual harassment, even reported on by the Washington Post, I can only conclude that no one in DC gives a crap about their children being handled by this toothy monster. (except Jeff Sessions, who blocked Joe from touching his grandkid.)
Senator Chris Coons from DE even Joesplained his awful behavior re: Coons' little girl Ashley, famously documented, and said that Ashley didn't mind being creeped on (Who ya gonna believe, me or your lyin' eyes??)
Even the young mom whose little baby is being publicly groped by an obvious pedo is grinning ear to ear.
I guess it's what that big beaked Streisand said it's all about, anyway: They were thrilled to be there and nobody was killed.

Posted by: kalllisto at March 30, 2019 12:15 PM (DJFLF)

127 JS, check out Nick Mason's band...

https://tinyurl.com/y3llousz

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 30, 2019 12:15 PM (PUmDY)

128 >>Well, at least your steppin' off that sticky dank, my man. Go fishing, clear your head. Stop chasin' that green dragon for a couple days.


Clearly, you haven't spent much time in the Keys.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2019 12:15 PM (/tuJf)

129 And the whole "what percent brown or white (or
American) are you?" determining whether you get a job, a loan, college,
free stuff ... leads directly to ??? communism, or at least to the
destruction of a civilized Western society.


Posted by: illiniwek at March 30, 2019 12:14 PM (Cus5s)

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It isn't communism, it's apartheid. Everyone will have an *official race* and these will be sorted into a caste system.

I think once that's explained, what little support there is for this will dry up.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2019 12:17 PM (cfSRQ)

130 When I was in Africa, I had the opportunity to ask a few of the locals what they thought of American born and raised African heritage people coming to live there. That was usually greeted by belly splitting laughter and opinions on how long those people would survive.
That would be if no government or very rich person to total care of them.

Posted by: Kafiroon at March 30, 2019 12:17 PM (BKuNR)

131 122 The federal government is broke.

They can't pay shit without borrowing money.

Stop the madness.

....

This is accurate.

But I can't help but wonder, at what point does the global illusion of unbanked debt and fiat currency breakdown?

What are $20-25 trillion in the hole? Where is the tipping point where we give up on the farce that any of the debt will actually be paid off?

I mean surely at some point we all have to accept that budgets and currency are simply a collective farce. Most of it is just electronic blips at this point.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 30, 2019 12:18 PM (tITQq)

132 My family never had to repair any offense committed against AAs, my mom didn't even get here until 1958. And the rest of the family who were here before her for all intents and purposes were considered a kind of negro because they settled in the area that white people were fleeing 'cause it was too close to the hood.

So anyone knocking on my door will get a big fat va fangool.

Posted by: kalllisto at March 30, 2019 12:19 PM (DJFLF)

133 as a white, heterosexual, male, i demand reparations. i am being persecuted for what i am. class action, baby! fuck em, i want mine!

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 30, 2019 12:19 PM (KP5rU)

134
♫ flyin' in the the Florida Keys
bringing back a couple of keys ♫

Posted by: Newest Nic at March 30, 2019 12:19 PM (jYje5)

135
I forgot all about Rick Perry. Is he still at DOE?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at March 30, 2019 12:19 PM (2epC0)

136 Reparations = Ridiculous Bullshit

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 30, 2019 12:19 PM (+y/Ru)

137 I mean surely at some point we all have to accept that budgets and
currency are simply a collective farce. Most of it is just electronic
blips at this point.
--

The power of delusion and fake money compels them.

Posted by: shibumi, still cynical at March 30, 2019 12:20 PM (zY+5G)

138 This is just collectivism made manifest.
We are no longer individuals, we are all part of some sort of tribe.
"Am I my brother's keeper?" were words spoken by a murderer to God himself.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at March 30, 2019 12:21 PM (w7KSn)

139 I have always considered the election of Barry Obama as the functional equivalent to reparations. he was elected because he was black, end of story, end of debate, end of issue.
________________

Maybe would have made sense if he was an actual descendant of American slaves, but he wasn't. He was the descendant of Kenyans who'd never been slaves in America, and the descendant of white slave-owners.

But Obama did help to piss away billions of American taxpayers' dollars on bullshit disguised "reparations" schemes like the Pigford scam (that was the government program that handed $50,000 checks to thousands of blacks who submitted affidavits saying that they had once thought about becoming farmers).

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 30, 2019 12:21 PM (fqUgw)

140 I want reparations for what the left has done to this country. I also want a Ferrari.

Posted by: freaked at March 30, 2019 12:21 PM (UdKB7)

141
Everyone will have to take a DNA test to see exactly how black they are. Then, a family history will need to be researched to see if anyone was a slave while under U.S. jurisdiction.


And if your ancestor was sold into slavery between April 12, 1861 - April 9, 1865 you won't quailify because technically they weren't under the jurisdiction of The United States.If that's the case you'll have to sue The Confederate States of America for reparations.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 30, 2019 12:22 PM (TAmPV)

142 Puerto Rico Hurricane death toll - this has been posted a lot, but it needs to be reposted over and over since the "Green" idiots like AOC keep spouting out the ridiculous lies about it as if they were true, and acting "SHOCKED!" if anyone challenges them on their Ridiculous Bullshit.

After the Hurricane passed over Puerto Rico, there were 64 bodies in morgues, of people who had died in the hurricane. 64. that's it - maybe there were a couple bodies not found, but not many. Online hacks were spitting out stories of unreported "mass graves" - EVERY story along those lines proved itself to be an Internet Hoax.

Then, a year later, a couple of academic statisticians in New York, who NEVER actually set foot in Puerto Rico, played with some statistical models and said "hey we think we can play with the numbers and say that there were 8,000 "extra deaths" in the 6 months after the Hurricane, so that's how many people were killed by the hurricane in Puerto Rico!"

so never mind the fact that NO natural disaster in history has ever had fatalities calculated this way; this 8,000 number didn't pass the laugh test for anyone, so it got thrown out, but instead they started to say "okay we have scientifically proved that 4,650 people died from that hurricane." And that got laughed out too, because it was just a made up number after the 8,000 didn't work out. And then people pointed out that they included as "hurricane deaths" anyone who died from a car crash anytime up to 6 months after the hurricane was long gone.
So now they're saying "okay how about 3,000? Would you believe that?"

And that is the absolute true and honest story about the source of the claim that 3,000 people Died in Puerto Rico from the Hurricane, that AOC is parroting with Religious Fervor.

64 people died there. That's it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 30, 2019 12:22 PM (V2Yro)

143 >> Garrett, saw Nick Mason's Saucerful of Secrets last night. All pre dsotm songs. Very great show.


Nice. Floyd without Roger Waters is the Best Floyd.

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2019 12:24 PM (oABSc)

144 Richard Kelly Hoskins pointed out that all governmental activity is directed toward one goal. Borrowing more money into existence. Nothing else. Oh, they hide behind "social justice" rhetoric, but the reality is that ever since Babylon and fiat currency, the currency issuing authority never prints the interest. Only the principal. So, as a result, you get the eventual collapse of the currency which is what lubricates the economy. You need to view reparations in the same way. Just a way to inject several more billions of dollars of paper into the economy. That the White slave will assume the burden of.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at March 30, 2019 12:24 PM (3sjI6)

145 What do they call The Great Society if NOT reparations?

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2019 12:25 PM (oABSc)

146 If that's the case you'll have to sue The Confederate States of America for reparations.

I've said for years that any reparations should be paid in Confederate money.

Posted by: Bert G at March 30, 2019 12:25 PM (OMsf+)

147 119 All my life I've never had a shred of racial animosity, I was raised that such things are a sin, and I still think that way.
But, I suppose that could change, given enough effort on the part of my fellow humans. They are teaching me that my mentality is wrong, and they are very persistent about it. It's a shame, really.
Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at March 30, 2019 12:12 PM (w7KSn)


I've become prejudiced against all things and all people who I consider leftist. And, anymore, that's a lot of people.

Posted by: Sooner at March 30, 2019 12:25 PM (Fs5vw)

148 I'd support it if we could get an agreement and guarantee that all affirmative action was ended forever, but the left would never agree to that

Posted by: buanadha at March 30, 2019 12:25 PM (j9qVD)

149 >>64 people died there. That's it.


And how many die in a regular weekend?

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2019 12:25 PM (oABSc)

150
First tear gas fired in week 20 in Paris today. Four months. Not many fat protestors in France. This weekly walk around the city is slimming them down.

Posted by: Newest Nic at March 30, 2019 12:27 PM (jYje5)

151 There is indeed a large entitlement class ... in the West it is largely white ... of course it is. But the entitlement class that has become a criminal cartel (or several of them) ... those are not the ones being targeted. They want to smear the whole class of white people, and ignore the TooBigToFail/Jail people that got bailouts for billionaires.

Does DeepState and CFR have any diversity laws imposed on them? Did the TARP and QE trillions get spread around to the poor of all races/ethnicities proportionately? NO, of course not, homeowners got screwed, certain banks collected the bailout, and became bigger than ever.


They would pay for their sins by forcing US to pay for "diversity" or reparations, and that system would continue to make the globalist elite richer, while making America poorer in every way. No diversity for them, no reparations from them, it would be government imposed payouts (more US debt), which the banks could collect from recipients by credit card.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 30, 2019 12:27 PM (Cus5s)

152 I believe our surrender to the civil rights activists of the 50's + 60's did exactly that because since the Civil Rights Act there's been more and more unrest and racial strife and invective than before and it's also affected the Black Male as somehow the existence of racism and racists is an excuse for him to rob and murder and sell drugs and mostly to his own people.

They've decided that since white culture/society/civilization is racist then anything put forth by whites must be racist.

Such as academic excellence, social morals and behavior that shuns criminal behavior, just speaking english for a while became a racist act.

This is what must stop in the Black community; the association of anything white with racism is causing blacks more problems and thus by extension whites more problem than any racism ever could have.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at March 30, 2019 12:27 PM (7nIX8)

153 Nice. Floyd without Roger Waters is the Best Floyd.
Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2019 12:24 PM (oABSc)

I agree that Waters is an asshole. But, to say that the best Floyd is without Roger Waters is a mistake. Whatever else Waters is, he was an excellent lyricist at his peak, i.e., from Obscured By Clouds to Wish You were here. Normally, I might include The Wall, but his lyricism had devolved to self-indulgence by that point.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at March 30, 2019 12:27 PM (3sjI6)

154 unions for decades used their power to keep Blacks out of the higher paying blue collar jobs. how about reparations from the unions?

just asking. oh, never mind, the smarted president in history said those jobs aren't coming back

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at March 30, 2019 12:28 PM (ZqRa6)

155 It was really cool to hear all those early songs live.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 30, 2019 12:28 PM (PUmDY)

156 Reparations won't repair black culture.

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2019 12:28 PM (oABSc)

157 The city of Rome, Italy owes me reparation. My ancestors were Slavic. Slavs were such popular slave material, the very word "slave" is based on the sheer numbers of Slavs who were enslaved for Roman consumption.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at March 30, 2019 12:29 PM (ebZss)

158 >>It was really cool to hear all those early songs live.


I'll bet. Did you get a See Emily Play?

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2019 12:29 PM (oABSc)

159 fuck puerto rico. sink it, capsize it, nuke it, give it back to spain. useless cesspool of democrat gimme, gimme, commies.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 30, 2019 12:29 PM (KP5rU)

160 Considering that the Left has been cultivating a mindset that increases misery and decreases success, I think they owe reparations to all the people who have borne the burden of their policies. That includes the broken families and communities that the Left's policies have produced, as well as those of us who have been forced to fund the whole mess and live with the consequences.

Well, I don't really think reparations are appropriate, and I acknowledge appeasement doesn't work. But I would really like our citizens to vigorously resist when the Left tries to sabotage our great country.

Posted by: Emmie at March 30, 2019 12:30 PM (4HMW8)

161 how about reparations from the liberal politicians who did so much to destroy black communities?

oh, sorry, Joe Biden would tell us, well how do you know it wonldn't have been worse without our policies??

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at March 30, 2019 12:30 PM (ZqRa6)

162 Porifera!

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 30, 2019 12:30 PM (Z4rgH)

163

Excuse me, did I miss memo, or something?

Did we not fight a Civil War in part to resolve the slave issue? And not coincidentally welcome a separate race into our society AND politics to the extent of having a black President elected?

So take the reparation hog crap and park it.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 30, 2019 12:31 PM (KATBx)

164 Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at March 30, 2019 12:29 PM (ebZss)
The Romans brought back captives from all their conquered territories, so a lot of current Europeans can claim slave ancestry, and Brits too.

Posted by: kalllisto at March 30, 2019 12:31 PM (DJFLF)

165
Lurking Lurker. The guy who wants to bitch about "milenials" that he can't spell. Hey, Lurker, you a "White Supremist" too?

I make jokes about you every day.


You two should get a room.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at March 30, 2019 12:31 PM (7s3Gx)

166 156 Reparations won't repair black culture.
Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2019 12:28 PM (oABSc)

You can't defeat an imaginary foe.

You can't solve an imaginary problem.

You can dream about it! Fight the unbeatable foe!

Heck, you can even SING about it.

But some dreams are impossible.

Posted by: Don Quixote at March 30, 2019 12:32 PM (NgKpN)

167 Yes, plus Fearless, Bike, Astronomy Domine, Green, Arnold layne.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 30, 2019 12:32 PM (PUmDY)

168 . This weekly walk around the city is slimming them down.

Posted by: Newest Nic at March 30, 2019 12:27 PM (jYje5)

French people generally are not fat. When I was in Paris I was one of the heftiest lasses there, and I was a size 6 at the time.

Posted by: kalllisto at March 30, 2019 12:32 PM (DJFLF)

169 Jussie will fade away in the same way Colin Kaepernick did.

Posted by: FireHorse at March 30, 2019 12:32 PM (TEklJ)

170 I recall Michelle Obama telling black kids that they aren't welcome in intellectual and cultural centers like museums.

So it's not white people trying to hold back minorities. It's Leftists.

Posted by: Emmie at March 30, 2019 12:33 PM (4HMW8)

171 Reparation talks drive a wedge between the races. As well as pander to a minority. And re-distribute wealth.


I think I now identify as the descendant of an African America slave.


I think we ALL should identify as the descendant of African American slaves.

Posted by: shibumi, still cynical at March 30, 2019 12:33 PM (zY+5G)

172 IGP is right.

He's always right.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 30, 2019 12:33 PM (tITQq)

173 Do the descendants of slave owners get reparations for having lost property that they paid for?

Since we are handing out ponzi cash.

Oh, the horror.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 30, 2019 12:33 PM (Z+IKu)

174 My g-grandfather emigrated from England in 1862. At age 19 he signed on with the 23rd Michigan Infantry, which was composed of about 980 men, total.

He mustered out at Murfreesboro, TN at the war's end.

The regiment lost 3 officers, and 70 enlisted men in combat, 4 officers, and 257 men to disease.

My g-grandfather is buried at Cave Hill National Cemetery in Kentucky. http://tinyurl.com/yydgnh38

I'd like one of these assholes to sit down in front of his marker, and explain to him why they think he and his progeny owe them something.

Posted by: Mike Hammer ,etc., etc at March 30, 2019 12:33 PM (ZMWtN)

175 Earth hour again? Time to get all the 100w incandescents out of storage again. They'll see my house from space.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at March 30, 2019 12:35 PM (ju9gW)

176 Here is my open and frank discussion regarding reparations:

no. and, i don't care. life isn't fair. one side of my history was booted out of Europe after being slaves themselves, the other half fought for the north.

so, no, I don't care.

Posted by: goatexchange at March 30, 2019 12:35 PM (1Yxnu)

177 I haz hunted the internets, and I can find nothing that sez Liawatha has withdrawn from the 2020 race.

Now iianm, Trump raised that issue at his rally in MI the other night, and I have seen it mentioned here a couple of times, but no link.

I do know she's polling like cholera. Sad.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 30, 2019 12:35 PM (Z4rgH)

178
El Chapo's clothing line "will include baseball caps, T-shirts, jean jackets, sweatshirts and phone cases."

https://tinyurl.com/yxf5hwue

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 30, 2019 12:35 PM (5aX2M)

179 Meeting Joe Biden is like being Dan Dan Aykroyd in Ghostbusters, "I've been slimed!"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 30, 2019 12:35 PM (+y/Ru)

180
Puerto Rico can become a state when its labor participation rate is the same as the average of the 50 states. Right now it's near the bottom of the chart. Embarrassingly low. Like half of this countries.

They're content to suck at the govmint teat. You know damn well they'll vote for those who wish to maintain and enlarge the welfare state.

Posted by: Newest Nic at March 30, 2019 12:35 PM (jYje5)

181 Do the descendants of AA slave owners owe?

Posted by: Mike Hammer ,etc., etc at March 30, 2019 12:35 PM (ZMWtN)

182 Reparations? Sure! Just be sure to let us "net out" the cost hosting black culture [as molded by leftists] has imposed on our society. You know, the welfare, the murders, the rapes, the drugs, the theft, the sewerization of our culture and politics. Get your checkbooks out, black America.....

Posted by: Buck Bradley at March 30, 2019 12:35 PM (hImkI)

183 Also, how about this for "Reparations"

650,000 to 1,000,000 dead citizens fighting in the war that freed them

Posted by: buanadha at March 30, 2019 12:36 PM (j9qVD)

184 >>Earth hour again?


Gonna have to back the Galaxie, both tractors, the trucks and the snowblower out for their annual

Idle Earth Day, Away Celebration.

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2019 12:36 PM (oABSc)

185 The church the Obamas attended in Chicago taught that black kids couldn't learn "white" knowledge that is supposedly taught in school.

Who's the racist?

Posted by: Emmie at March 30, 2019 12:37 PM (4HMW8)

186 You know who ended slavery, worldwide ?

White Christian men.

Posted by: Mike Hammer ,etc., etc at March 30, 2019 12:37 PM (ZMWtN)

187 Sounds like a fun show, Cosmic.

Where are you located that you can catch all these acts?

We don't see 1/4 of them, up here.

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2019 12:38 PM (oABSc)

188 earth hour? time for some boy scout fluid, old tires, and some tarpaper.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 30, 2019 12:38 PM (KP5rU)

189 A lifelong colleague tells me that fishing and weed is a dangerous pastime, my friends. Weekends only last for two days. And retirement is a saucy whore.

Posted by: Fritz at March 30, 2019 12:38 PM (LuPts)

190 73 Lurking Lurker. The guy who wants to bitch about "milenials" that he can't spell. Hey, Lurker, you a "White Supremist" too?

I make jokes about you every day.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 30, 2019 11:55 AM (8ZmvG)

___

Whaaaaaaaa?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at March 30, 2019 12:39 PM (FiUMj)

191 183 Also, how about this for "Reparations"

650,000 to 1,000,000 dead citizens fighting in the war that freed them
Posted by: buanadha at March 30, 2019 12:36 PM (j9qVD)

That's out of a total population of 31.5 Million in 1860, and includes 4 million slaves.

So about 1 in 30 people in the US died in that conflict.

Posted by: Don Quixote at March 30, 2019 12:39 PM (NgKpN)

192 Garrett, Gary Kemp from Spandau Ballet is in Mason's band. He was really good.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 30, 2019 12:39 PM (PUmDY)

193 Here is my open and frank discussion regarding reparations:

no. and, i don't care. life isn't fair. one side of my history was booted out of Europe after being slaves themselves, the other half fought for the north.

so, no, I don't care.
Posted by: goatexchange
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Thomas Sowell has several things to say about this in 'Black Rednecks, and White Liberals'. Great book.

Posted by: Mike Hammer ,etc., etc at March 30, 2019 12:39 PM (YvUf/)

194 No country in the history of the world has done more than the U.S. to atone for enslaving people, including transfer of wealth. The fact that we're even having such a conversation is indicative of the lack of appreciation of history and personal and national sacrifice.

Anyone who's asking for reparations needs a terse, factual reminder followed by a stern STFU.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 30, 2019 12:39 PM (Egjjp)

195 Virginia is so screwed.
Tim Kaine is up to his usual stuff, has introduced a bill.

Quote is from JihadWatch

Tim Kaine asserts that "the rise of white supremacy is an undeniable threat to the safety of our communities," and "as the threat of violent white supremacy continues to mount, we must do more to ensure law enforcement has the training and resources they need to detect, deter, and investigate these acts of terrorism."

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at March 30, 2019 12:40 PM (w7KSn)

196 >>A lifelong colleague tells me that fishing and weed is a dangerous pastime


Nonsense.

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2019 12:40 PM (oABSc)

197 77% of black children are born out of wedlock.

https://tinyurl.com/y6ve7fbn

92% of bi-racial children are born out of wedlock (of which 82% will require government assistance).

http://archive.is/sTnC


How you gonna solve that?

Reparations won't. It's not an economic problem, it's a no nuclear family problem.

The poverty is the result, not the cause.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 30, 2019 12:40 PM (tITQq)

198
So about 1 in 30 people in the US died in that conflict.
Posted by: Don Quixote
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You should see the dresses I had to wear.

Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at March 30, 2019 12:40 PM (YvUf/)

199 Atlanta.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 30, 2019 12:41 PM (PUmDY)

200 "Reparations" aren't about fairness or justice. They're just another of the seemingly endless raids Dems conduct on our wallets.

Posted by: creeper at March 30, 2019 12:41 PM (5JnwU)

201 186 You know who ended slavery, worldwide ?

White Christian men.
Posted by: Mike Hammer ,etc., etc at March 30, 2019 12:37 PM (ZMWtN)

/looks at the open slave markets in Libya

And Obama brought them back!

Posted by: Libyan Islamic Slaver at March 30, 2019 12:41 PM (NgKpN)

202 Tim Kaine asserts that "the rise of white supremacy is an undeniable threat to the safety of our communities," and "as the threat of violent white supremacy continues to mount, we must do more to ensure law enforcement has the training and resources they need to detect, deter, and investigate these acts of terrorism."
Posted by: navybrat
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Complete and utter bullshit.

Echoes of Obama's proposed 'National Police Force'.

Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at March 30, 2019 12:42 PM (YvUf/)

203 Oops. /Curtain wearer

Posted by: Mike Hammer , etc., etc at March 30, 2019 12:42 PM (YvUf/)

204 Mike Hammer,

Hubby and I just drove through Asheville. WTH, you have been invaded by yankees. Is traffic always that horrible?

Posted by: four seasons at March 30, 2019 12:43 PM (21Sa0)

205 >>And how many die in a regular weekend?

Only time I've had a gun pulled on me was in PR.

Old San Juan after dark is not a good place to be.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2019 12:43 PM (/tuJf)

206 >>Only time I've had a gun pulled on me was in PR.


Trying to score a Lid, no doubt...

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2019 12:44 PM (oABSc)

207 "And on the other side are those who believe that the Good means using policy to increase human flourishing as much as possible, for as many as possible, in the present."

the "Good" means treating people according to their character, not the color of their skin.

Saint Bob: "Until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eye.. there is war."

Posted by: exdemocrat at March 30, 2019 12:44 PM (GmndG)

208 195; someday, timmy kaine's demented dreams will come true. hope the little fucker lives to see it.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 30, 2019 12:44 PM (KP5rU)

209 Tim Kaine asserts that "the rise of white supremacy is an undeniable threat to the safety of our communities," and "as the threat of violent white supremacy continues to mount, we must do more to ensure law enforcement has the training and resources they need to detect, deter, and investigate these acts of terrorism."
Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at March 30, 2019 12:40 PM (w7KSn)

______

Allllaaahhhhuuu Akbar!!

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at March 30, 2019 12:45 PM (FiUMj)

210 >>Trying to score a Lid, no doubt...

Worse. A woman.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2019 12:45 PM (/tuJf)

211 Very true, Kallisto. Also, following Spartcus's defeat, Rome crucified 6,000 of his surviving fellow slaves, lining the Appian Way from Capua to Rome. I think that slaughter entitles all the peoples living today whose ancestral lands were conquered by Rome deserve reparations.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at March 30, 2019 12:45 PM (ebZss)

212 puerto rico is a polyps in the worlds' colon.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 30, 2019 12:46 PM (KP5rU)

213 Reparations?

Fuck no, and treat affirmative action as the blatant racism it is.

Posted by: JEM at March 30, 2019 12:46 PM (8erNz)

214 Still shocked that auburn beat unc like that. 58 points in 2nd half, I think.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 30, 2019 12:46 PM (PUmDY)

215 130 When I was in Africa, ...

Amen! A Kenyan friend says the same thing plus they couldn't find Africa on a map.

Ridiculous Bullshit!!

Posted by: dingbat at March 30, 2019 12:46 PM (BvH+8)

216 Wasn't the best player on UNC battling the flu?

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2019 12:47 PM (oABSc)

217
Worse. A woman.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2019 12:45 PM


You might want to reexamine your dating techniques if the woman is pulling a gun on you. Just saying.

Posted by: Newest Nic at March 30, 2019 12:48 PM (jYje5)

218 No idea. Still shocking.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 30, 2019 12:48 PM (PUmDY)

219 Already paid via welfare and the cost of police and jail/prisons.

Posted by: Anchovy at March 30, 2019 12:48 PM (B3kya)

220 I could not repeat the things the Kenyans I worked with had to say about African Americans.

Not here. Not in public. Not anywhere.

They had a seething and virulent hatred of African Americans.
And they WOULD NOT call them African Americans.

They'd tell you why, too.

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2019 12:49 PM (oABSc)

221 My Ancestors fought in the War of Northern Aggression. 1/3 of them (the goofy Ohio Branch) fought for the North, the other 2/3rds of the family fought for the south. Even had a civilian member of the family die in a Delaware Union Prison camp (Pea Patch Island) that made Andersonville look like a Hilton resort.

We think the wrong side won the Nothern War of Agression so we wannna know if you will accept sporadic payments for reparations in commodity metals. I'm thinking copper jacketed lead mostly.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at March 30, 2019 12:49 PM (cCxiu)

222 >>Worse. A woman.


Was it a Derringer?

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2019 12:50 PM (oABSc)

223
Saw a couple of hammer and sickle flags in Paris protests today. That's usually a bad sign. A bunch of rocks and cobblestones thrown, some tear gas fired back. Which the protestors tend to pick up and toss right back at the police.

Posted by: Newest Nic at March 30, 2019 12:50 PM (jYje5)

224 Someone in America, there's a black kid sitting in a classroom, mouthing off at his teacher, making rude remarks, and NOT DOING ANY SCHOOL WORK.

When told to do his algebra homework, he says, "[expletive deleted]!"

How are reparations going to fix that?

No matter what the solution to the black situation is, whether it's "catch up to white people," or "kill all the white people," there IS NO SCENARIO where he doesn't have to do the algebra.

How are reparations going to fix that?

Posted by: RKae at March 30, 2019 12:50 PM (gpZas)

225 >>You might want to reexamine your dating techniques if the woman is pulling a gun on you. Just saying.

She was fine. It was her boyfriend that was a problem.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2019 12:50 PM (/tuJf)

226 "Hoskins pointed out that all governmental activity
is directed toward one goal. Borrowing more money into existence.
Nothing else. ... the
reality is that ever since Babylon and fiat currency, the currency
issuing authority never prints the interest. Only the principal. So, as a
result, you get the eventual collapse of the currency which is what
lubricates the economy." Posted by: Anonymous White Male

I haven't wrapped my head around the whole money supply thang. When the stock market doubles ... trillions are created out of thin air. when it goes back down, that "money" goes back to money heaven, as CNBC Joe Kernan used to say.

There doesn't have to be money printed for that paper wealth, because it is held as stock, as I understand it. Same with other global (especially paper/electronic) money creation. Same with Bitcoin and the cryptos. To infinity ... and beyond.


There is no good reason for the government to borrow and pay interest, on fiat money, when they can just QE it into existence. That is better than lending to China and paying them interest. Certainly better than giving to certain banks at 0% so they can buy our bonds, and we can pay THEM interest on money they borrow from US.


It is all a scam for the "banksters" to extract the whole wealth of our nation ... and now the assets themselves will be owned by "them" due to $200T in debt, underwritten by your own house ... they will demand payment. (we'll have to force the issue)

Posted by: illiniwek at March 30, 2019 12:52 PM (Cus5s)

227 Reparations? Sure! Just be sure to let us "net out" the cost hosting black culture has imposed on our society. You know, the welfare, the murders, the rapes, the drugs, the theft, the sewerization of our culture and politics. Get your checkbooks out, black America.....
Posted by: Buck Bradley at March 30, 2019 12:35 PM (hImkI)

Checkbook? Wha' dat be? Iz dat like some raciz book I gots ta read?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at March 30, 2019 12:53 PM (3sjI6)

228

Nearly every issue plaguing blacks currently can be traced back to that malevolent bit of legislation called The Great Society, brought to us courtesy of LBJ and his merry band of miscreants.

For those unaware, the intent was to create a monolithic voting bloc by subsidy.

Worked like a charm, and along the way virtually ruined a race by destroying their family structure plus any initiative.

You're seeing the inevitable result with increasing frequency.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 30, 2019 12:53 PM (KATBx)

229 Garrett, really great Set Your Controls as well.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 30, 2019 12:53 PM (PUmDY)

230 I fully support the idea of slave reparations.

If you have at any point in your life been a legally held slave, come forward and pick up your check.

I doubt there's very many 170-year-olds to collect. Claims against the Democratic Party for its support of Jim Crow laws, however, would be for crimes within living memory, and should be made against and paid for by the DNC.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at March 30, 2019 12:53 PM (CL7Hz)

231 Tim Kaine asserts that "the rise of white supremacy is an undeniable threat to the safety of our communities," and "as the threat of violent white supremacy continues to mount, we must do more to ensure law enforcement has the training and resources they need to detect, deter, and investigate these acts of terrorism."
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This is a psychological defense mechanism. Displacement. Can't face a real threat, so create an imagined one that can be defeated.

That's why Leftists love islam (they WILL get killed) and hate George W. Bush (who was fighting islam).

Very similar to hating your boss and coming home and kicking your dog.



Posted by: shibumi, still cynical at March 30, 2019 12:54 PM (zY+5G)

232 For those unaware, the intent was to create a monolithic voting bloc by subsidy.

Worked like a charm, and along the way virtually ruined a race by destroying their family structure plus any initiative.

You're seeing the inevitable result with increasing frequency.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 30, 2019 12:53 PM (KATBx)


This. This is why I blame it on the Left.

Posted by: Emmie at March 30, 2019 12:55 PM (4HMW8)

233 What too many people refuse to admit is that being a slave is the second oldest profession in the world. (We all know what the first oldest profession is.)

I am sick and tired of slavery being presented as the invention white Americans. As Thomas Sowell has said many times, the only thing unique about the English and the Americans is that they were the first countries in the world to abolish slavery.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at March 30, 2019 12:56 PM (ebZss)

234 >>There is no good reason for the government to borrow and pay interest, on fiat money, when they can just QE it into existence. That is better than lending to China and paying them interest. Certainly better than giving to certain banks at 0% so they can buy our bonds, and we can pay THEM interest on money they borrow from US.

Every time a single new dollar is printed we all become poorer.

Increasing the monetary supply dilutes everyone's wealth. Neither excess borrowing nor printing money is good.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2019 12:56 PM (/tuJf)

235 I am so proud of the democrat party!

Posted by: Zombie Charlie Manson at March 30, 2019 12:56 PM (Z+IKu)

236 Hi to Miley and Pub!

Going by Spartanburg and Greenville. Hubby and I are on our way to our home in Columbia. Waving at y'all.

Posted by: four seasons at March 30, 2019 12:57 PM (21Sa0)

237 Posted by: illiniwek at March 30, 2019 12:52 PM (Cus5s)

Actually, no money is created by the Stock market, it is just moved around.


Stocks only realize gains when sold. So someone has to use real money to buy your stock, so you get gains.


Money is actually created by Banks Debt. If they have 1 dollar in assets, they can loan that dollar out 8 or 9 times, and be paid back in real assets, thus accruing massive profit, while inflating the money 'pool' with no real government control.


Its why the Founders did not want a Central Banking system, and put in the Constitution that only the Government could create money. Another thing destroyed in the early 1900s.

Posted by: Don Q at March 30, 2019 12:57 PM (NgKpN)

238 It is all a scam for the "banksters" to extract the whole wealth of our nation ... and now the assets themselves will be owned by "them" due to $200T in debt, underwritten by your own house ... they will demand payment. (we'll have to force the issue)
Posted by: illiniwek at March 30, 2019 12:52 PM (Cus5s)

The Department of the Treasury is the entity that prints the currency. The banksters pay a nominal fee to cover the cost of printing, then proceed to lend it into circulation for which they reap billions annually. Why no one asks why we need a middle man to pimp out our money just points out the fact that Americans don't think anymore. All we have to do is repudiate the debt. And mean it. And accept the consequences. It will only be done as a last resort, instead of a first resort.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at March 30, 2019 12:57 PM (3sjI6)

239 Warren should make reparations to Native Americans for misusing their victimhood.

Posted by: nerdygirl at March 30, 2019 12:58 PM (+lVUW)

240 Oprah, give her all the reparations. She's poor.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 30, 2019 01:00 PM (r+sAi)

241 That's why Leftists love islam (they WILL get killed) and hate George W. Bush (who was fighting islam).

Very similar to hating your boss and coming home and kicking your dog.

Posted by: shibumi, still cynical at March 30, 2019 12:54 PM (zY+5G)

The Left's fetish also ties in with their war on masculinity.

They've decided that Muslim women would be their ideal subjects.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at March 30, 2019 01:00 PM (CL7Hz)

242 No matter what the solution to the black situation is, whether it's "catch up to white people," or "kill all the white people," there IS NO SCENARIO where he doesn't have to do the algebra.

How are reparations going to fix that?

Posted by: RKae
________

Solve for X. Malcolm X, that is.

Posted by: FireHorse at March 30, 2019 01:00 PM (TEklJ)

243 What too many people refuse to admit is that being a slave is the second oldest profession in the world.

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The other thing people refuse to admit is that slavery was THE MORAL OPTION to slaughtering your enemies.

"You've lost the war. Would you like to be decapitated now, or live as my butler?"

Another thing they don't realize is that British sailors were abducted by press gangs and thrown onto ships. (The press gang was their version of the draft.) So it's pretty easy for sailors to enslave others when they themselves are slaves and slavery is merely a fact of life.

Posted by: RKae at March 30, 2019 01:00 PM (gpZas)

244 I am a lifelong Republican, and we fought a way against the Democrats to resolve this issue. We prevailed.
Let the Democrats pay reparations.
They are the party of the rich, and they have just about all the money anyway.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at March 30, 2019 01:00 PM (w7KSn)

245 I am also in the camp of STFU about reparations, if you are a slave now, and there are many who are being held in this predicament right now, there are laws and penalties for those holding those people, ( ok, there are often foreign nationals with immunity that get caught and get shipped away free and clear) but it it's not you I don't care about long unknown ancestry period.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019 01:01 PM (BbGew)

246 My family owned slaves and killed a shitton of Indians, and the only thing they'll get from me or mine is fast lead.

Posted by: Jean at March 30, 2019 01:01 PM (KdFno)

247 And that is the absolute true and honest story about the source of the claim that 3,000 people Died in Puerto Rico from the Hurricane, that AOC is parroting with Religious Fervor.

You just articulated the prototype for how they will attempt to perform a National Popular Vote tally.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at March 30, 2019 01:01 PM (lD3vL)

248 "fought a war" not "way"
'scuse me

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at March 30, 2019 01:01 PM (w7KSn)

249 Maybe Warren will discover that she's one thirty-sixth African American and demand reparations for herself.

Posted by: nerdygirl at March 30, 2019 01:01 PM (+lVUW)

250 Posted by: Anonymous White Male at March 30, 2019 12:57 PM (3sjI6)

The vast majority of 'dollars' in circulation were never printed.

They only exist on ledger sheets inside the Central bank system.

And in fact, due to fractional lending, the Government had nothing to do with the creation of said 'dollars'. They were created by the process of loaning them to other business or private customers.

Posted by: Don Q at March 30, 2019 01:02 PM (NgKpN)

251 Reparations?

No problem. Unlike Fauxcahantas, we get ours first.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at March 30, 2019 01:02 PM (jl269)

252 I do have to agree though that any black slave currently alive should get reparations.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 30, 2019 01:03 PM (r+sAi)

253
Every time a single new dollar is printed we all become poorer.

Increasing the monetary supply dilutes everyone's wealth. Neither excess borrowing nor printing money is good.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2019 12:56 PM

Most of the time. But when you have a currency that is valuable around the world a lot of people put it under their mattresses. I was just reading of how Venezuelans use our currency during these multiple power outages they've been having. They can't use their electronic means to pay for anything.

Posted by: Newest Nic at March 30, 2019 01:03 PM (jYje5)

254 "Increasing the monetary supply dilutes everyone's wealth. Neither excess borrowing nor printing money is good.Posted by: JackStraw

agreed, but better to inflate by just printing, than inflate AND owe the interest. The interest ALONE is a huge part of an unsustainable growing monster.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 30, 2019 01:03 PM (Cus5s)

255 The vast majority of 'dollars' in circulation were never printed.

They only exist on ledger sheets inside the Central bank system.

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And when NOTHING is printed because it's all just a fantasy in cyber space...? We're almost there.

Posted by: RKae at March 30, 2019 01:03 PM (gpZas)

256 Reparations wouldn't change a thing. Not one goddamned thing

The day after, it'd be "What, you think you can BUY US OFF? Nosirree, Whitey. You still gon' pay."

Posted by: Not Enough Lamp Posts at March 30, 2019 01:04 PM (S1+dw)

257 The other thing people refuse to admit is that slavery was THE MORAL OPTION to slaughtering your enemies.


Huh, so it going to be the IMMORAL OPTION for post CW2.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at March 30, 2019 01:04 PM (lD3vL)

258 It's time to do away with the dollar.

We should use tulips or maybe meth instead.

It's what the people want.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 30, 2019 01:04 PM (Z+IKu)

259 I'm a cowboy. On a real horse I ride. I'm wanted. Dead or alive.


bitches.

Posted by: Fritz at March 30, 2019 01:04 PM (LuPts)

260 You still gon' pay."

Yep. The Dane is never paid off...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at March 30, 2019 01:05 PM (jl269)

261 252 -- That should bankrupt half the countries of Africa.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at March 30, 2019 01:05 PM (ebZss)

262 []And when NOTHING is printed because it's all just a fantasy in cyber space...? We're almost there.

That is one of the reasons to support the War On [Some] Drugs and illegal immigration.

Both of those require cash.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at March 30, 2019 01:05 PM (lD3vL)

263 No reparations to these "descendants". If they are not well compensated it's because their jobs were outsourced to China or insourced to illegals, or because education is "too white".
When Obama was immaculated, as Rush would say, I was hoping he would turn the conversation toward staying in school, and valuing useful subjects such as reading and mathematics. He didn't and as a result he further disadvantaged blacks.
The nation has bent over backwards with quotas and affirmative action and this idiotic "diversity", if they can't get ahead with all the favoritism, they need to take a look at the lack of effort on their parts.

Posted by: CN at March 30, 2019 01:06 PM (U7k5w)

264 The interest ALONE is a huge part of an unsustainable growing monster.
Posted by: illiniwek

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Compound interest creates a world that MUST eventually go down in flames.

Posted by: RKae at March 30, 2019 01:06 PM (gpZas)

265 Steel Horse

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2019 01:06 PM (oABSc)

266 THIS IS MAGA COUNTRY!

Ha ha!

Posted by: Fritz at March 30, 2019 01:06 PM (LuPts)

267 A lifelong colleague tells me that fishing and weed is a dangerous pastime

Nonsense.

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2019 12:40 PM (oABSc)

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I have a buddy who was a fishing guide since we were kids. He definitely knew his shit, but he'd always get especially big tips, and eventually started guiding rich people and celebrities and so on.

I asked him how he did it. He told me he'd never done anything different from when we were kids... aside from the gear, he'd pack a cooler with sandwiches, some good beer, and a bag of good CO weed.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 30, 2019 01:06 PM (5aX2M)

268 258 It's time to do away with the dollar.

We should use tulips or maybe meth instead.

It's what the people want.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 30, 2019 01:04 PM (Z+IKu)

As a thought experiment, since we don't have enough Gold to run the economy anymore (not enough for Gold based currency).

How about Money based on a certain amount of Energy. Like a Kilowatt, or Megawatt.

Thus, the government would have to make more energy available if they want to increase the 'pool' of money?

Posted by: Don Q at March 30, 2019 01:07 PM (NgKpN)

269 Thinking about it I would bet there are hundreds if not a thousand women, mostly illegals being held as sex slaves in this country.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019 01:07 PM (BbGew)

270 And how many die in a regular weekend?
Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2019 12:25 PM (oABSc)

710 for the tear 2017 murdered

Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen at March 30, 2019 01:08 PM (P4Pk9)

271 Garden NOOD

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019 01:09 PM (BbGew)

272 269: And I'd deport them all. Many SJW types think this new slavery entitles them to instant citizenship, compensation, and chain migration. Deport them and jail the johns after publishing their names.

Posted by: CN at March 30, 2019 01:09 PM (U7k5w)

273 Getting an Etes Wide Shut vibe from this thread.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 30, 2019 01:10 PM (PUmDY)

274 >>I asked him how he did it. He told me he'd never done anything different from when we were kids... aside from the gear, he'd pack a cooler with sandwiches, some good beer, and a bag of good CO weed.


I never brought the weed. I just put them on big fish.

Though, 75% of them had their own.

And 100% of the retired cops tried to buy some!

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2019 01:11 PM (oABSc)

275 Eyes

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 30, 2019 01:11 PM (PUmDY)

276 274: Stoner Nation. Very reassuring.

Posted by: CN at March 30, 2019 01:12 PM (U7k5w)

277 The entire rationale for the proposals of the left is that whatever we have done as a society to remedy the injustices of the past is not good enough. Even if 90 percent of whites today had nothing to do with slavery and Jim Crow, every white person has benefited from it.

The left seeks collective punishment, revenge, and payback.

On an unrelated issue, yesterday on FOX Business Karl Rove blathered that PDT should stop talking about the Mueller Report because "swing voters" don't care about it, and that he should not close the Mexican border because it would disrupt American businesses' supply chain.

I fully expect PDT to continue to talk about the Mueller Teport and yo close the Mexican border.

Posted by: mercenary13 at March 30, 2019 01:12 PM (O2iUl)

278 >>Stoner Nation. Very reassuring.


I have no problems with it. Better than the alchoholics in the boat, that is for sure.

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2019 01:12 PM (oABSc)

279 Morning,

This French pressed cup of specialty coffee is so much better than the coffee at work. Funny that.

Children aren't responsible for the sins of their parents. Individuals are responsible for their own actions. Can we get back to individual responsibility now? Please?

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at March 30, 2019 01:13 PM (IDhUW)

280
Have we been told that last Winter was the "warmest on record" yet?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at March 30, 2019 01:13 PM (I3rl+)

281 "Actually, no money is created by the Stock market, it is just moved around. Stocks only realize gains when sold. So someone has to use real money to buy your stock, so you get gains."


Well many people have their retirement largely in stocks, which they consider to be redeemable" as money. And it IS, as long as not everyone jumps out at once. Printing fed reserve notes (fiat currency) is not RealMoney either. It is backed by nothing but faith, whereas stocks are generally backed by a real asset.




"Money is actually created by Banks Debt. If they have 1 dollar in
assets, they can loan that dollar out 8 or 9 times, and be paid back in
real assets"

They can loan that 9x out (fractional reserve), but it is debt based ... they hold the asset, they get paid back in currency. (or they eat the loss and have to sell the house)

Posted by: illiniwek at March 30, 2019 01:14 PM (Cus5s)

282 Karl Rove sucks.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 30, 2019 01:14 PM (PUmDY)

283 Robert Francis is ranting again in Cuidad El Paso.

Posted by: Bllly Ball at March 30, 2019 01:15 PM (MwFQu)

284 Not just ranting, but officially kicking off his campaign for the right to contest Hillary for the Democrat nomination for president.

Posted by: Bllly Ball at March 30, 2019 01:16 PM (MwFQu)

285 So basically, if I understand you guys correctly, you pretty much oppose reparations.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 30, 2019 01:16 PM (dySP0)

286 Well written article by Hughes. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at March 30, 2019 01:18 PM (IDhUW)

287 278: Better to have neither. Police buying is particularly disturbing.

Posted by: CN at March 30, 2019 01:18 PM (U7k5w)

288 Stoner Nation. Very reassuring.
Posted by: CN at March 30, 2019 01:12 PM (U7k5w)

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Nah. It's just rich folks on vacation. They want to catch some fish, smoke some pot, and have a few beers. They want a good guide to take them down the river and make sure that all happens, and happens safely.

It's really pretty innocent.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 30, 2019 01:19 PM (5aX2M)

289 Your article supports nipping the SJW/critical legal/race studies Barbra Streisand in the bud. One way to start is to disbar Foxx. Two organizations of her peers have condemned her actions. Here is a link to one group which contains a link to the other group. http://www.ilpba.org/resources/Documents/IPBA%20letter_Smollett.pdf
But someone has to file the actual complaint with the Illinois bar association. I have yet to read that anyone has.

Posted by: Locke Common at March 30, 2019 01:19 PM (0CsXa)

290 284 Not just ranting, but officially kicking off his campaign for the right to contest Hillary for the Democrat nomination for president.
Posted by: Bllly Ball at March 30, 2019 01:16 PM (MwFQu)


Tweaker O'Rourke for prezzy!

Posted by: Emmie at March 30, 2019 01:19 PM (4HMW8)

291 Federal debt $22 trillion.
money spent on welfare programs $@@ trillion. Almost 40% of that goes to 13% of the population. Reparations should go to white taxpaying citizens.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at March 30, 2019 01:21 PM (pw+jk)

292 Beto is incredibly silly.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 30, 2019 01:21 PM (PUmDY)

293 I've been told our currency was never really fully gold backed ... and that a new system could maybe tie the currency value to a basket of real assets (commodities maybe, not sure if it would include housing or tech).


But we should never have gotten in debt, especially not to where servicing just the debt alone is impossible ... a government squeezing their citizens to pay oligarchs (while covertly serving and bailing out those same seditious oligarchs).


We have to make them pay for their frauds and corrupt seizure of our government ... jail, or next step ... war. But we know who the crooks are ... we don't have to fight each other as they would prefer.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 30, 2019 01:22 PM (Cus5s)

294 292 Beto is incredibly silly.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 30, 2019 01:21 PM (PUmDY)
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Full of ridiculous BS.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at March 30, 2019 01:24 PM (IDhUW)

295 @unplannedmovie has been suspended on twitter.

SMH

Posted by: golfman at March 30, 2019 01:24 PM (OE84+)

296 Guess I'll go to the gardening thread, even tho I just got here. I always miss the good threads./jk

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at March 30, 2019 01:26 PM (IDhUW)

297 So basically, if I understand you guys correctly, you pretty much oppose reparations.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 30, 2019 01:16 PM (dySP0)

Ummmmmmm.....Yes.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 30, 2019 01:30 PM (Z+IKu)

298 So anyone knocking on my door will get a big fat va fangool.
Posted by: kalllisto

So I guess hair-sniffing is out then.

Posted by: JT at March 30, 2019 01:33 PM (icuj/)

299 Other task today is to spray coat over 200 miniatures I have painted this winter with clear coat, first 70+ degree day.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019 01:35 PM (BbGew)

300 It's reparations, trannys and commies all the way down.

Posted by: That irredeemable guy who always says... at March 30, 2019 01:40 PM (EgshT)

301

The Rolling Stones are postponing their latest tour so Mick Jagger can receive medical treatment.

The band announced Saturday that Jagger was told by doctors "he cannot go on tour at this time." The band added that Jagger "is expected to make a complete recovery so that he can get back on stage as soon as possible."

No more details about 75-year-old Jagger's condition were provided.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 30, 2019 01:53 PM (aKsyK)

302 From Drudge:

'SOUTHERN POVERTY CENTER' has systemic culture of racism, sexism, staffers say...

Blacks passed over for promotions...

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Reparations needed!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 30, 2019 01:53 PM (+y/Ru)

303 Finally got around to browsing the Morning Coffee Break, and read the article on sickly/dying cows and electricity.

Did no one think to do a couple of experiments to confirm their suspicions? Take a group of 20 healthy cows and heifers, record their weights, coat 1/2 the herd's hooves with a heavy rubber latex...

Inspect latex for tears daily plus weight. Same 'electrical infested' field. Watch for unusual behavior involving either half.

Do this for a month or so; THEN you might have some evidence to back your claim.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 30, 2019 01:56 PM (Z4rgH)

304
The Rolling Stones were ancient 20 years ago.
Enough with the tours already.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at March 30, 2019 01:57 PM (I3rl+)

305
Eventually their concerts will consist of small piles of dust on a stage.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at March 30, 2019 01:59 PM (I3rl+)

306 Hubby and I just drove through Asheville. WTH, you have been invaded by yankees. Is traffic always that horrible?

Posted by: four seasons
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Yes. Carpetbaggers of all varieties. Yankees, who are here to lend impose on us their ideas for 'improvement', and hipsters, filling the microbreweries.

Posted by: Mike Hammer , etc., etc at March 30, 2019 02:01 PM (YvUf/)

307
'SOUTHERN POVERTY CENTER' has systemic culture of racism, sexism, staffers say...

Blacks passed over for promotions...
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It is often that way with money laundering schemes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer , etc., etc at March 30, 2019 02:03 PM (YvUf/)

308 The national debt is not my concern.
Where is my signature on a legal document?
Go find the politicians and bankers who signed one and harass them.

Posted by: navybrat swimming upstream at March 30, 2019 02:04 PM (w7KSn)

309 Beto is incredibly silly.

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Preview of Donk primary debates.

https://bit.ly/2CNBJHC

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 30, 2019 02:04 PM (+y/Ru)

310 The Rolling Stones were ancient 20 years ago.
Enough with the tours already.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at March 30, 2019 01:57 PM (I3rl+)

Yup......Enough with the Rolling Stones already.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 30, 2019 02:04 PM (Z+IKu)

311 The Rolling Stones were ancient 20 years ago.
Enough with the tours already.

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Walkering Jack Flash!
They've got gas! Gas! Gas!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 30, 2019 02:06 PM (+y/Ru)

312 >> The Rolling Stones were ancient 20 years ago.


Turns out Angie is the Night Nurse.

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2019 02:11 PM (MqrRH)

313 Stones still bring it, imo.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 30, 2019 02:20 PM (PUmDY)

314 >> Stones still bring it, imo.


If by 'it' you mean Life Alert, then yeah.

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2019 02:21 PM (MqrRH)

315 Why is reparations being discussed as if it is a real idea? The Democrats are simply using it as an election year ploy. They want to appear to be all for helping blacks while any anti-reparations stance is believed to be anti-black. It's that utterly idiotic. Arguing the finer points of it once again renders the right as fools and playing into their hands. What SHOULD happen is to call it out for what it is - pandering for votes, and it needs to be repeated over and over and loudly. Not discussed as if it is a true policy proposal. The right does this on many issues and it is disheartening to watch the same foolish responses cycle after cycle.

Posted by: Typical Michigan Fan at March 30, 2019 02:23 PM (brVKc)

316

The Rolling Stones on tour:

https://youtu.be/_hjoh_NrDJY

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 30, 2019 02:23 PM (aKsyK)

317 Biden taking some real hits of late.

I think Trump would be the favorite against any of the others, although the mayor of South Bend (Buttigieg?) concerns me a bit.

Posted by: mnw at March 30, 2019 02:31 PM (Cssks)

318 Has Northern Lurker checked in, wondering how the first night went for him and his new buddy?

Posted by: slowdown at March 30, 2019 02:35 PM (EK1ea)

319
"Mayor Pete" is a pillow biter.

Combat veteran, my ass.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at March 30, 2019 02:40 PM (j3nbO)

320 What SHOULD happen is to call it out for what it is - pandering for votes, and it needs to be repeated over and over and loudly. Not discussed as if it is a true policy proposal. The right does this on many issues and it is disheartening to watch the same foolish responses cycle after cycle.
Posted by: Typical Michigan Fan at March 30, 2019 02:23 PM (brVKc)

You mean like repealing Obama care?

/spit

Posted by: Don Q at March 30, 2019 02:45 PM (NgKpN)

321 Garrett, check out the show they did in Cuba.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 30, 2019 02:48 PM (PUmDY)

322 You can't fix history on the backs of the living. All you do is discriminate against a new group of God's children.

Normal Americans have a crazy belief that they are equal, too.

You're playing with fire.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 30, 2019 02:48 PM (Ndje9)

323 Howdy Horde. Picked up our held mail this morning. They trot it out and then have me sign for 27 certified letters sent to Mr. NEC from a state tax office. Told the PO employee they couldn't possibly belong to the hubby. He shows me that they are addressed to my sweety.
They are indeed overdo tax bills for a state we have never lived in totaling thousands of dollars.
The kicker. They are bills for the company Mr. NEC retired from in 2008. A multinational manufacturer that has businesses in all 50 states and around the world. He was an employee, not the owner.
Gets better. We've moved three times since he retired. From PA to SC to MI and to eventually our current home in OH.They had to do a bit of work to track down our home address. Even better, the company he retired from is still in the same town that it was when these bills were accrued.
How does this type of crap happen?

Posted by: never enough caffeine at March 30, 2019 02:51 PM (N3JsI)

324 Dr. Sowell: "In a sense, proponents of "social justice" are unduly modest. What they are seeking to correct are not merely the deficiencies of society, but of the cosmos. What they call social justice encompasses far more than any given society is causally responsible for. Crusaders for social justice seek to correct not merely the sins of man but the oversights of God or the accidents of history. What they are really seeking is a universe tailor-made to their vision of equality. They are seeking cosmic justice."

White Supremacism is a joke. Muslim Supremacism is a problem. But Social Justice Supremacists will rip this country apart with Identity Politics if they get their way, especially coming on top of this yet unprocessed Coup Attempt.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 30, 2019 02:54 PM (Ndje9)

325
Reparations? Never happen. This guy's family, the limited number here before the Civil War (all non-Scandis), lived in the north and sent soldiers to fight for the north in that conflict. The Scandis didn't show up until 1869 and beyond.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 30, 2019 02:57 PM (pNxlR)

326 Biden is more pandering than Hillary.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 30, 2019 02:58 PM (PUmDY)

327 Everyone who was a slave (except in muslim Krapistans which still have it) or who ever owned a slave or who ever sold a slave has been dead for over 50 years or more.

This is a non issue.

Of course saying that is RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACIS!!

Posted by: Constantine XI at March 30, 2019 02:58 PM (yiAMj)

328 Wikipedia says Mayor Buttigeg (spelling?) was in the Naval Reserves and in Afghanistan. Wouldn't that make him a veteran?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 30, 2019 03:03 PM (AllCR)

329
I got your reparations right here!

Have your daughters swing by to pick it up.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 30, 2019 03:04 PM (UFLLM)

330 The Rolling Stones were ancient 20 years ago.
Enough with the tours already.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at March 30, 2019 01:57 PM (I3rl+)

Yup......Enough with the Rolling Stones already.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 30, 2019 02:04 PM (Z+IKu)

Love the Stones records but I never saw them play live, BUT if rich Yuppies and Boomers want to keep PAYING them to play, who are we to say?

Posted by: JoeF. at March 30, 2019 03:15 PM (NFEMn)

331
I think Trump would be the favorite against any of the others, although the mayor of South Bend (Buttigieg?) concerns me a bit.
Posted by: mnw at March 30, 2019 02:31 PM (Cssks)

Rush seems concerned with the guy too, but I don't know. Would the hysterical commies who make up the base of the party--and seem to hold a lot of sway with young voters--ever EVEN pick this guy?


And cue the Mayor "Butt Plug" jokes......

Posted by: JoeF. at March 30, 2019 03:18 PM (NFEMn)

332 Deep thoughts:

Screw Karl Rove and his "...but we must just move on...." sissy B.S.

I WANT Trump to nuke the leftists, Democrats and #NeverTrump crowd from space. Then do it again and again until the rubble bounces.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at March 30, 2019 03:18 PM (T09ml)

333 if rich Yuppies and Boomers want to keep PAYING them to play, who are we to say?
Posted by: JoeF. at March 30, 2019

+++++

AKA "How Mick Jagger became a capitalist."

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at March 30, 2019 03:22 PM (T09ml)

334 Trump just cut all aide to El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2019 03:33 PM (/tuJf)

335 Fully on board for this idea of reparations. The Barbary Pirates stole and enslaved English citizens for centuries, so their successor states in North Africa can expect a bill soon.

Posted by: Steve T at March 30, 2019 03:35 PM (ou+/F)

336 I did see Keith Richards and Ron Woods at the 2nd Knebworth festival in Aug 1979

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019 03:51 PM (BbGew)

337 I WANT Trump to nuke the leftists, Democrats and
#NeverTrump crowd from space. Then do it again and again until the
rubble bounces.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at March 30, 2019 03:18 PM (T09ml)


...and then piss on the ashes.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 30, 2019 03:52 PM (9Om/r)

338 Reparations is the idea that taking money from people where never slave owners and giving it to people who were never slaves is somehow justice.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 30, 2019 04:05 PM (yQpMk)

339 Trump just cut all aide to El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2019 03:33 PM (/tuJf)

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Excellent! I hope Mexico recognizes and acts on this warning shot.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 30, 2019 04:09 PM (ffYR/)

340 NRA gunman wayne lapierre says nra will go out of business soon. Our thoughts and prayers go with their families.

Posted by: raimondo at March 30, 2019 04:14 PM (oa9Lu)

341 Trump just cut all aide to El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2019 03:33 PM (/tuJf)


How will this affect the price of Honduran cigars?


I assume they make something else other than cigars and MS-13 drones... but drawing a blank... bananas?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 30, 2019 04:16 PM (1g7ch)

342 NRA gunman wayne lapierre says nra will go out of business soon.



I'll take the over, Joe.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 30, 2019 04:20 PM (yQpMk)

343 The NRA has millions of members, they won't be goijng out of business soon. In fact vey time gun grabbers get itchy sales go through the roof.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2019 04:21 PM (BbGew)

344 if rich Yuppies and Boomers want to keep PAYING them to play, who are we to say?
Posted by: JoeF. at March 30, 2019

+++++

AKA "How Mick Jagger became a capitalist."
Posted by: TANSTAAFL at March 30, 2019 03:22 PM (T09ml)

Michael Phillip Jagger, late of the London School of Economics was never anything BUT a capitalist.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 30, 2019 04:23 PM (NFEMn)

345 This border surge is outrageous--and it must be stopped.

Also, this tells me that the migrants--unlike the Democrats and the media (BIRM)--take Trump at his word: that the Wall is being built.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 30, 2019 04:27 PM (NFEMn)

346 337. Fun Factoid: Ron Woods is an accomplished artist. As in painting pictures.

Posted by: kallisto at March 30, 2019 04:30 PM (73ec4)

347 Shutdown the border. How long will republican businessmen put up with that?

Posted by: raimondo at March 30, 2019 04:37 PM (oa9Lu)

348 Shutdown the border. How long will republican businessmen put up with that?
Posted by: raimondo at March 30, 2019 04:37 PM (oa9Lu)

Fuck them

Posted by: JoeF. at March 30, 2019 04:45 PM (NFEMn)

349 No one in my family ever owned slaves and in fact, we are in possession of a great uncle's discharge certificate from the Indiana Volunteers who fought in that war.

However, in the interest of harmony, I will be will to contribute toward one way tickets to Africa if anyone's life here is so bad.

Posted by: Bill R. at March 30, 2019 05:04 PM (IuYIh)

350 https://goo.gl/9s1pVe
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US halting aid to El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at March 30, 2019 05:18 PM (BqBId)

351 Too many African Americans are enslaved to the realities of: single motherhood, fatherless families, abortion, gangs, the generational culture of rent seeking, false idols (professional athletes, actors, actresses), no interest in education etc. Since 1963 in excess of $26 TRILLION (Federal and State) has been spent on the black community and exactly what has improved. Money whether it's welfare or reparations cannot buy self responsibility and self accountability

Posted by: liarspoltergeist at March 30, 2019 06:50 PM (FaWaM)

352 Um, shouldn't such reperations be adjudicated, and then if valid, applied in chronological order?
My DNA contains 50% Irish slave blood - yet I'm A-ok. Why would I sue, and who? I'd never want to sue those that I should indeed thank for rescuing me from the Irish food/Potatoe fammon, by forcibly sending me to the USA instead of starving to death in Ireland. Sheesh!

Posted by: MoJoTee at March 30, 2019 10:00 PM (2yhkc)

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