Poll: Americans Shift Dramatically Towards Pro-Life Label; Pro-Choice and Pro-Life Positions Now Tied with 47% of Country Backing Them

According to a new poll from Marist, Americans' attitudes on abortion have dramatically shifted over the last month. Americans are now as likely to identify as pro-life (47 percent) as they are pro-choice (47 percent). A similar survey taken by Marist just last month found Americans were more likely to identify as pro-choice than as pro-life by a 17-point difference.

If you're wondering if this shift coincided with Democrats' open embrace of actual infanticide -- thus clarifying a debate that it would be better for the pro-choice side to keep unclarified -- it does seem the two are connected:

...

This surge in pro-life Americans comes after several states have passed or pushed for radical policies advocating for unlimited access to abortion, at any stage of gestation, for any reason or no reason at all. The survey was conducted Feb. 12-17, just weeks after New York passed the Reproductive Health Act, expanding access to post-viability, third-trimester abortions, and repealing protections for aborted children older than 20 weeks who are born alive. A proposed bill in Virginia would allow abortion up until the point of birth, and Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam endorsed giving doctors and mothers the power to decide whether an infant lives or dies after it is born. Last week, the Vermont House passed an even more extreme version of the New York RHA.

Democrats just voted against cloture on the Born Alive Protection Act, which would have required doctors have sought medical attention for a baby born in the course of an abortion, like you would with a, what do you call it, human being who was born alive, instead of, as Bill Kristol donor recipient Governor Ralph Northam would say, keeping it comfortable while a discussion about whether to kill it ensues.

The vote (which required 60 to end debate, because the Senate continues to play by Fake Filibuster rules) failed with 53 in favor, 44 against. Democrats Casey, Manchin, and Doug Jones of Alabama flipped to pretend to care about the issue. Three Senators -- Tim Scott of South Carolina, Kevin Cramer of North Dakota, and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska all chose to not be present for the vote.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 07:03 PM

Comments

(Jump to bottom of comments)

1 Good!

Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 25, 2019 07:03 PM (ffYR/)

2 Yo

Posted by: Ha at February 25, 2019 07:03 PM (MAstk)

3 Casey and Jones are up in 2020.

They are liars and fakes.

Posted by: Ha at February 25, 2019 07:05 PM (MAstk)

4 Keep aborting your political clout Democrats.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 25, 2019 07:05 PM (iDkUm)

5 Maybe some of the 44 voting no will get canned

Posted by: Skip at February 25, 2019 07:05 PM (/rm4P)

6
Casey and Jones are up in 2020.

They are liars and fakes.
Posted by: Ha

Driving that train, highly insane.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 25, 2019 07:06 PM (aKsyK)

7 I'm not going to click on that.

Posted by: wth at February 25, 2019 07:06 PM (v0R5T)

8 why would you kill a child? if you're not up to being a mommy, why not give the baby up for adoption? why do you want to kill it? it's so sad.

i will bow out. cannot handle this discussion. it makes me physically ill.

peace and love. and pray for the souls of all those murdered children. may God accept them into the palm of his hand and cherish them forever.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 25, 2019 07:06 PM (d7Ww2)

9 All of the babies that would have grown up to support prog causes were aborted, so...

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 25, 2019 07:07 PM (gC2IV)

10 It's moider, I tells ya.

Posted by: wth at February 25, 2019 07:07 PM (v0R5T)

11 I assume the Dem pro murder polling remained the same. It was the pro-choice Right members who have changed their minds.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 25, 2019 07:07 PM (2DOZq)

12 Its not my problem ( my 2 Senator voted yes) but would want to hear if it was why the 3 Republicans missed or did not vote.

Posted by: Skip at February 25, 2019 07:07 PM (/rm4P)

13 It's "Pro-Life" and "Pro-Death". Sure you may have a choice but it's still killing something.

Posted by: freaked at February 25, 2019 07:07 PM (UdKB7)

14 What the heck is going on with Tim Scott? He seemed to be a solid conservative until recently.

Posted by: Liberty at February 25, 2019 07:07 PM (cclOX)

15 It's not human until it argues with Dianne Feinstein.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 25, 2019 07:08 PM (aKsyK)

16 The pro lifers sold out by the Repuke liars? A day ending in y.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 25, 2019 07:08 PM (y7DUB)

17 Crimson.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Hit Musical Learning to Code! at February 25, 2019 07:08 PM (0QYMt)

18 It's a trap! The whole post is one big link.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 25, 2019 07:08 PM (ffYR/)

19 So Lisa Murkowski, Tim Scott and Kevin Cramer could not show up to vote for it, but Susan Collins *could* vote for it. Let that sink in?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 25, 2019 07:08 PM (ujg0T)

20 How many Demofascists support post birth abortion?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, prole at February 25, 2019 07:09 PM (Z216Q)

21 Satan is having his way with us.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 25, 2019 07:09 PM (w7KSn)

22 20 How many Demofascists support post birth abortion?
Posted by: Huck Follywood, prole at February 25, 2019 07:09 PM (Z216Q)

At least 44 in the Senate.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 25, 2019 07:09 PM (ujg0T)

23 Roll Tide.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 25, 2019 07:10 PM (Droxk)

24
Tim Scott and Cramer were probably busy getting their girlfriends' abortions.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 25, 2019 07:10 PM (eY6uE)

25 " Satan is having his way with us."

That is not who we are.

Posted by: freaked at February 25, 2019 07:11 PM (UdKB7)

26 For the last few decades the Republican Party, supposedly pro life, has failed to put any limit on abortion or even defund PP. Trump did it in two years.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 25, 2019 07:11 PM (gC2IV)

27 I assume the Dem pro murder polling remained the same. It was the pro-choice Right members who have changed their minds.

Only one third of Democrats supported abortion after the third month, in this poll. That 10% of the voting population is driving this whole "debate", and they are probably the same people driving every single one of the most reprehensible policies the Demofascists can conceive.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, prole at February 25, 2019 07:11 PM (Z216Q)

28 -----why would you kill a child? if you're not up to being a mommy, why not give the baby up for adoption? why do you want to kill it? it's so sad. -----

Even sadder is that even if a technology breakthrough allowed the removal of the fetus into a womb facsimile incubator that allowed the continue growth until full term to allow for adoption , they still would be in favor of killing the baby.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 25, 2019 07:12 PM (2DOZq)

29 I can't even come up with anything to say.

May God have mercy on us.

Abortion is murder. Murder of an innocent. In every case.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at February 25, 2019 07:12 PM (0OmEj)

30 My cousin's husband told my uncle that he was pro-choice. My uncle told him that if abortion had been readily available when my cousin was gestating, they probably wouldn't have been able to adopt her. The guy said he might have to reconsider his position.

Posted by: huerfano at February 25, 2019 07:13 PM (6e1eX)

31 You mean to tell me that being pro infanticide turns Americans off?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 25, 2019 07:13 PM (pw+jk)

32 Well, you know what this means: Time for a quick trip to the Cuckshed where one of their stable of kept conservative can explain the conservative case for being pro choice

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 25, 2019 07:13 PM (TN1P5)

33 The left doesn't even care about full grown people unless they can give them more power. Why would we expect they would care about babies who can give them nothing?

Posted by: freaked at February 25, 2019 07:13 PM (UdKB7)

34 there is no no moral rationale to kill the kid after it is born. it's not the feminist's body anymore. it would make just as much sense to kill the "mother", perhaps more.

Posted by: x at February 25, 2019 07:13 PM (nFwvY)

35 47% percent... pro abortion. Sickening....

Posted by: kraken at February 25, 2019 07:13 PM (90T4r)

36 I have a hunger and the only way to fill it is with more Ace.

Posted by: The Barrel at February 25, 2019 07:14 PM (pw+jk)

37 47 percent in favor of state sponsored murder........ why stop at killing babies when there are so many others as or more 'deserving-'--particularly that OrangeManBad crowd?.

They believe this. They promote in every conceivable way.

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at February 25, 2019 07:14 PM (ApM8l)

38

All this talk of "the woman's right" and "it's my body, my decision" completely and totally omits the other person who is affected by "her decision" as if he or she just doesn't exist.

How do they do that? Are there not 2 people in this equation? Why do the people who are supposed to represent us not pointing this out daily?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 25, 2019 07:15 PM (HaL55)

39
The best part to all this evil madness is this:

The Democrats are going to put up The Most Radical Leftist candidate for president in history.

For example: If it's Bernie Sanders, which it won't be, the '20 Bernie Sanders will make the '16 Bernie Sanders look like a moderate.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 25, 2019 07:15 PM (eY6uE)

40 This born alive bullshit is not actually preventing abortion. End third trimester abortions and join the progressive Europeans in their "progressive" abortion laws.

Posted by: Max Power at February 25, 2019 07:15 PM (QCc6B)

41 I assume the Dem pro murder polling remained the same. It was the pro-choice Right members who have changed their minds.

You assume correct. To them, aborting something early in the pregnancy term, the size of a teaspoon, is not a big deal, but something late in the term, fully formed limbs an a brain, in the same window of time when premature babies are born? That must be where they draw the line.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 25, 2019 07:15 PM (ujg0T)

42 The Reckoning for this will be awful.

Posted by: kraken at February 25, 2019 07:15 PM (90T4r)

43 This is the hill to die on.

Ram the ghouls love of death up their squeak holes come 2020.

Pro-Life, Pro-2nd Amendment and Pro-Trump Baby!

The dems are Godless commie scum.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 25, 2019 07:15 PM (Z+IKu)

44 Good job, Alaska. Good job. I hope all that Federal lucre was worth your souls.

Posted by: pep at February 25, 2019 07:16 PM (T6t7i)

45 I wish there was a political price to be paid for supporting infanticide... unfortunately, too many have become numb to what abortion actually is.

Posted by: Phil Hartmark F/K/A Truck Monkey at February 25, 2019 07:16 PM (flINI)

46 The poll that counts will be in nov. 2020. on earlier post I pointed out that their will be 9 million more democrat votes and 2 million less republican votes a post natal abortion for republican party!

Posted by: raimondo at February 25, 2019 07:16 PM (H4PNH)

47 Of course, many Democrats support abortion of Republicans at any age. Including abortion by firing squad, a la Che.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, prole at February 25, 2019 07:17 PM (Z216Q)

48 And some say that this can end without giving several million 60 month post trimester abortions.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 25, 2019 07:17 PM (pw+jk)

49 Barack Obama voted against Illinois' Born Alive Act when he was a senator.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2019 07:17 PM (ptqGC)

50
The fact that Ben Sasse sponsored the bill but Tim Scott took the coward's way out is just so revealing.

We gave Sasse shit for his past antics and gave Scott a pass for way to long.

Kudos on this to Sasse and a big get fucked to Scott.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2019 07:17 PM (zBaqJ)

51 I have no answer for Tim Scott. It appears that he's gone rogue.

Posted by: pep at February 25, 2019 07:17 PM (T6t7i)

52 So what stops the insanity from spreading to euthanasia of elderly, mental defectives, or any " undesirable"???

Posted by: kraken at February 25, 2019 07:17 PM (90T4r)

53 What the fuck use is Tim Scott if he co-sponsors Harris' lynching bill (because I guess hanging people to death from trees is still legal here in the US) and doesn't show for the cloture vote on the Born Alive Protection Act?

I'm sorry, but I expect more effort from my tokens.

Posted by: Fringe at February 25, 2019 07:17 PM (yatvJ)

54 Every restriction on abortion is "outlawing a woman's right to choose"

But outright banning of guns is a mere reasonable restriction

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 25, 2019 07:17 PM (TN1P5)

55 25 " Satan is having his way with us."

That is not who we are.
Posted by: freaked at February 25, 2019 07:11 PM (UdKB7)

Sometimes Western "civilization' seems like a Satanic insane asylum

Posted by: josephistan at February 25, 2019 07:18 PM (Izzlo)

56
It's been wicked Windy all day.
Right now, 50+mph gusts.

It's so windy, it's very noisy and loud.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 25, 2019 07:18 PM (eY6uE)

57
Progs rant about pro-death penalty people being hypocrites if they're pro-life. Imagine what the death penalty would be like if the threshold was like that for abortion. Guys would get clipped for traffic violations, jaywalking or 16 items in the Express checkout line.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 25, 2019 07:18 PM (LsBY9)

58 49 Barack Obama voted against Illinois' Born Alive Act when he was a senator.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2019 07:17 PM (ptqGC)

Recall that every vote where he had to take a stand he voted present. EXCEPT that one.

Telling.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2019 07:18 PM (zBaqJ)

59 The left has vigorously opposed any measure to make the mother have an ultrasound prior to an abortion. Why? They don't want those women to see that the "clump of cells" looks like a human being very early on. It also has a heartbeat.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 25, 2019 07:18 PM (gC2IV)

60 Murkowski will leave the GOP before she stands for reelection. I'll be glad when she does. Better to lose that seat than be associated with her.

Posted by: pep at February 25, 2019 07:18 PM (T6t7i)

61 If you live in Iowa, NH, or another early primary state, now is the time to get involved,

In the DEMOCRAT Primary.

Attend those campaign stops and ask the hard questions!?!?

Are you in favor of Born Alive?

Black Reparations?
Native American Reparations? (This one for Lawatha Warren)

Get involved. Ask the questions the News Media Never Will.

Posted by: rd at February 25, 2019 07:19 PM (EK+Pw)

62

Only one third of Democrats supported abortion after the third month, in
this poll. That 10% of the voting population is driving this whole
"debate", and they are probably the same people driving every single one
of the most reprehensible policies the Demofascists can conceive.

How does that happen? Shouldn't the majority of America have more of a voice, especially when it comes to killing babies?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 25, 2019 07:19 PM (HaL55)

63 A modest proposal: you can get an abortion if you sign an affidavit that you would have raised the kid as a liberal if you didn't get one.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 25, 2019 07:19 PM (YqDXo)

64 >>This born alive bullshit is not actually preventing abortion. End third trimester abortions and join the progressive Europeans in their "progressive" abortion laws.

It wasn't intended to be one. It was simply a statement that a baby born alive can not be killed and must be cared for and they couldn't even get that done.

This is just insane.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2019 07:19 PM (/tuJf)

65 I can't even come up with anything to say.

May God have mercy on us.

Abortion is murder. Murder of an innocent. In every case.

Posted by: USNtakim

You said all that needs to be said.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2019 07:19 PM (eg609)

66 57 Progs rant about pro-death penalty people being hypocrites if they're pro-life. Imagine what the death penalty would be like if the threshold was like that for abortion. Guys would get clipped for traffic violations, jaywalking or 16 items in the Express checkout line.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 25, 2019 07:18 PM (LsBY9)

From now on, an execution is merely an extremely late term abortion.

Problem solved.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2019 07:19 PM (zBaqJ)

67
Lisa the Murk. Daddy's Little Senator.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 25, 2019 07:19 PM (LsBY9)

68 In every abortion situation there are at least four people that are stakeholders in the decision. The only two left out completely are the Baby and God. The father almost never has a voice. The Mother has the final say in every case. Abortion is owned and brought to us by women.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at February 25, 2019 07:19 PM (0OmEj)

69 How do they do that? Are there not 2 people in this equation?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 25, 2019 07:15 PM

They've spent the last 50+ years hammering the idea that the innocent unborn aren't human. Some of the actually believe this by now. Imagine what they think of us...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 25, 2019 07:19 PM (hzGlR)

70
We just lost the hyperlink...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2019 07:19 PM (zBaqJ)

71 Europeans seem to be wrong about everything.

Posted by: Burger Chef at February 25, 2019 07:20 PM (RuIsu)

72 I keep reading things about what people do that confirm for me that Hell ain't hardly full...

Posted by: Parker at February 25, 2019 07:20 PM (MFwf8)

73 67
Lisa the Murk. Daddy's Little Senator.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 25, 2019 07:19 PM (LsBY9)

Give her Anita Dunn's lizard tongue and you have a Komodo dragon. On Cocaine..

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2019 07:20 PM (zBaqJ)

74 50
The fact that Ben Sasse sponsored the bill but Tim Scott took the coward's way out is just so revealing.

We gave Sasse shit for his past antics and gave Scott a pass for way to long.

Kudos on this to Sasse and a big get fucked to Scott.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2019 07:17 PM (zBaqJ)

Heartily agree. Sasse deserves a whole lotta credit, and Tim Scott should get the barbed cock of Satan shoved up his rear.

Posted by: Marybeth at February 25, 2019 07:20 PM (MEgUr)

75 59 The left has vigorously opposed any measure to make the mother have an ultrasound prior to an abortion. Why? They don't want those women to see that the "clump of cells" looks like a human being very early on. It also has a heartbeat.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 25, 2019 07:18 PM (gC2IV)

But realize what the Demunist Commiecrats are supporting.

THAT late in the pregnancy, s/he is no longer a "clump of cells". S/he is just about fully formed. And premature babies, who doctors struggle to save, are born in the same window of time.

Even the socialist weenie Euros won't stomach that.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 25, 2019 07:20 PM (ujg0T)

76 71
Europeans seem to be wrong about everything.

Posted by: Burger Chef

I dunno. They're pretty good on pastry.

Posted by: pep at February 25, 2019 07:21 PM (T6t7i)

77 Anecdotal evidence only but I've noticed folks whom I have been friends with for years have suddenly become much more outspoken in putting forth their pro-life views.

I'm talking in-your-face outspoken. Hairyback Guy, you are correct - these folks have decided this is the hill to die on if necessary.

Again, PDT has forced the Demunists to overplay their hands. The man is a genius.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 25, 2019 07:21 PM (Y4EXg)

78
Europeans seem to be wrong about everything.

Posted by: Burger Chef at February 25, 2019 07:20 PM (RuIsu)

Celebrating a century of failure.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 25, 2019 07:21 PM (LsBY9)

79
That's a good point -- this was a Cuck bill for sure.

It basically sets ups the GOP as the party who's kinda okay with abortion, but only in the womb.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 25, 2019 07:21 PM (eY6uE)

80

So what stops the insanity from spreading to euthanasia of elderly, mental defectives, or any " undesirable"???

Time. Those ideas will never go away as long as there are psycho Progs around.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 25, 2019 07:21 PM (HaL55)

81 Is there really a situation in late pregnacy which would require abortion to save the mother's life?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 25, 2019 07:21 PM (1g7ch)

82 From now on, an execution is merely an extremely late term abortion.

Problem solved.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

And since you don't have to be a doctor to perform one, I volunteer as tribute!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2019 07:21 PM (eg609)

83 have no answer for Tim Scott. It appears that he's gone rogue.
Posted by: pep at February 25, 2019 07:17 PM (T6t7i)

It would appear that there are compromising videos of Scott and a farm animal at a petting zoo.

Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at February 25, 2019 07:22 PM (a7d/i)

84 71 Europeans seem to be wrong about everything.
Posted by: Burger Chef at February 25, 2019 07:20 PM (RuIsu)

As far as I know, NO Euro nation allows abortions this late.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 25, 2019 07:22 PM (ujg0T)

85
In other words, Sasse's bill only re-draws the "red line" for abortion.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 25, 2019 07:22 PM (eY6uE)

86 So what stops the insanity from spreading to euthanasia of elderly, mental defectives, or any " undesirable"???

A .45 to the head.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2019 07:22 PM (eg609)

87 Everyday it becomes clearer as the sacrament of the left.

Posted by: Amy Clobbershire at February 25, 2019 07:22 PM (vDqXW)

88
Democrats: making America safe for Gosnellism.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 25, 2019 07:22 PM (LsBY9)

89 Abortion is murder, and in my opinion even worse than the murder of an adult.
No room for any compromise on abortion in my world.

Posted by: kraken at February 25, 2019 07:23 PM (90T4r)

90
Bring a friend or two with video cameras.

61 If you live in Iowa, NH, or another early primary state, now is the time to get involved,

In the DEMOCRAT Primary.

Attend those campaign stops and ask the hard questions!?!?

Are you in favor of Born Alive?

Black Reparations?
Native American Reparations? (This one for Lawatha Warren)

Get involved. Ask the questions the News Media Never Will.

xxxxxxxxxxx

Bring a friend with a video camera. Post the Question and Answers.

It may go viral if it is done well.

Posted by: rd at February 25, 2019 07:23 PM (EK+Pw)

91
No, 50 years from now we will view this like we now view slavery.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 25, 2019 07:24 PM (LsBY9)

92 (81) When the baby realllllly won't look like dad.

Posted by: Burger Chef at February 25, 2019 07:24 PM (RuIsu)

93 Abortion is murder, and in my opinion even worse than the murder of an adult.
No room for any compromise on abortion in my world.
Posted by: kraken at February 25, 2019 07:23 PM

^^^This.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 25, 2019 07:24 PM (hzGlR)

94
We just lost the hyperlink...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

When you've lost the hyperlink...

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 25, 2019 07:24 PM (aKsyK)

95 to that end, the Marist Survey released today (sponsored by Knights of
Columbus) does a huge service by asking people a follow up -- when
exactly do you think abortion should be permitted

Twitter thread about it here:
https://twitter.com/LoganDobson/status/
1100112455957651457

Posted by: andycanuck at February 25, 2019 07:24 PM (Dh1wo)

96 If a baby is born alive and breathing on its own, how would killing it not meet the legal definition of murder?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 25, 2019 07:24 PM (gC2IV)

97 Out: Children in cages.

In: Children in coffins.

Posted by: Axeman at February 25, 2019 07:25 PM (vDqXW)

98 84 71 Europeans seem to be wrong about everything.
Posted by: Burger Chef at February 25, 2019 07:20 PM (RuIsu)

As far as I know, NO Euro nation allows abortions this late.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 25, 2019 07:22 PM (ujg0T)

A handful do. Great Britain for instance

Posted by: josephistan at February 25, 2019 07:25 PM (Izzlo)

99 I have never heard a woman who has had a miscarriage say ANYTHING other than "I lost the baby."

Posted by: Parker at February 25, 2019 07:25 PM (MFwf8)

100 My favorite is the "can't oppose abortion if you oppose welfare/public schools."

To which I say, "slavery wasn't wrong because the slaves were underpaid."

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 25, 2019 07:25 PM (TN1P5)

101 The movie "The Glorias" is being filmed in my town, glorifying the life of Gloria Steinem.

That haggard bitch is comparing pro-lifers to Nazis. I really hope I find myself in a restaurant with Bette Midler or another hag "star" in the movie. I won't be able to restrain myself.

I may need bailing out.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2019 07:26 PM (ptqGC)

102 Progs rant about pro-death penalty people being hypocrites if they're pro-life. Imagine what the death penalty would be like if the threshold was like that for abortion. Guys would get clipped for traffic violations, jaywalking or 16 items in the Express checkout line.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 25, 2019 07:18 PM (LsBY9)

Which brings up the list of traits every Lefty has.

1.Born without the gene that allows one to make logical comparisons.

2. More projection than a 20 screen multiplex.
3. Ends always justify the means
4. History only started yesterday. Presentism
5. Cognitive Dissonance

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 25, 2019 07:26 PM (2DOZq)

103
"Hi Carolyn! How's your fetus doing?" Said no one, ever.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 25, 2019 07:26 PM (LsBY9)

104 Let's keep Murk comfortable until we decide what to do with it.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 25, 2019 07:26 PM (+fPHo)

105 Europeans seem to be wrong about everything.

Germany requires a consultation, a three day waiting period, and only up to the 12th week of pregnancy.

I bet most Morons would take that deal.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 25, 2019 07:26 PM (fuK7c)

106 I find it odd that Cramer was absent. ND is a very conservative, pro-life state. One of the more restrictive for how many weeks gestation. Not voting yes on cloture is not going to win him any votes. Maybe he had a schedule conflict and was told they couldn't get to 60 regardless so did not ask for a delay.

Posted by: paleRider is simply irredeemable at February 25, 2019 07:26 PM (eASYU)

107 Again, tell me why the left is not the definition of evil?

Jonah "the Hut" Goldberg and all the cucks on the never Trump socialist party, you are just as evil, maybe a touch more.

ESAD

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 25, 2019 07:27 PM (pw+jk)

108 If God were to ever remove his blessings from America. And Dammed us all. This would be the reason.

Pray for us.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at February 25, 2019 07:27 PM (0OmEj)

109 I have never heard a woman who has had a miscarriage say ANYTHING other than "I lost the baby."
Posted by: Parker at February 25, 2019 07:25 PM (MFwf

---
That's because a woman, without a biologically-female penis, has the right to define her fetus as a child.

Posted by: Axeman at February 25, 2019 07:27 PM (vDqXW)

110 If a baby is born alive and breathing on its own, how would killing it not meet the legal definition of murder?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 25, 2019 07:24 PM (gC2IV)

1. BECAUSE WIMMMENZ HEALTH, YOU H8TER!!!
2. BECAUSE SHUT UP!!!!!!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 25, 2019 07:28 PM (Mouru)

111 106 I find it odd that Cramer was absent. ND is a very conservative, pro-life state. One of the more restrictive for how many weeks gestation. Not voting yes on cloture is not going to win him any votes. Maybe he had a schedule conflict and was told they couldn't get to 60 regardless so did not ask for a delay.
Posted by: paleRider is simply irredeemable at February 25, 2019 07:26 PM (eASYU)

In fairness, if that is the case, or if the vote was forced when not all Republicans could be present.....but I suspect Lisa Murkowski would have abstained no matter what.

Susan Collins of Maine, the RINOiest of RINO GOPee women, DID vote Yes. Let that sink in......

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 25, 2019 07:28 PM (ujg0T)

112 My ambivalence towards preventing opponents from offing their kids has been purely a pragmatic matter. Yes, I understand why people get upset about that - but I suspect this is driven by the fact that what I think encompasses "us" as a culture is very different than how some of you would define it.

In that light, polling like this and the reasons driving it are a good thing, because it means people are starting to think seriously about the issue. And it becomes a liability to the moonbats instead of the wedge issue for them to use on everyone else.

Posted by: lurker (the other one. buy radios too) at February 25, 2019 07:29 PM (eAshZ)

113 Which brings up the list of traits every Lefty has.

1.Born without the gene that allows one to make logical comparisons.

2. More projection than a 20 screen multiplex.
3. Ends always justify the means
4. History only started yesterday. Presentism
5. Cognitive Dissonance
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 25, 2019 07:26 PM (2DOZq)

6. Nothing I push will never boomerang

Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at February 25, 2019 07:29 PM (a7d/i)

114 Is there really a situation in late pregnacy which would require abortion to save the mother's life?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 25, 2019 07:21 PM (1g7ch)

Unfortunately yes. But surprisingly the cases I've heard of are where the mother chooses to continue with the pregnancy rather than have life saving treatment.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 25, 2019 07:29 PM (2DOZq)

115
If a baby is born alive and breathing on its own, how would killing it not meet the legal definition of murder?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 25, 2019 07:24 PM (gC2IV)

They have to kill the baby before a certificate of live birth is issued.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 25, 2019 07:29 PM (TAmPV)

116

66 57 Progs rant about pro-death penalty people being hypocrites if they're pro-life. Imagine what the death penalty would be like if the threshold was like that for abortion. Guys would get clipped for traffic violations, jaywalking or 16 items in the Express checkout line.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 25, 2019 07:18 PM (LsBY9)

From now on, an execution is merely an extremely late term abortion.

Problem solved.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2019 07:19 PM (zBaqJ

xxxxxxxxxxxx

Sounds a lot like Larry Nivens Future History with organleggers, court sanctioned organ banks and a sometimes dystopian outlook.

Posted by: rd at February 25, 2019 07:29 PM (EK+Pw)

117 O/T, a suspect in the home invasion, kidnapping, and murder of my husband's cousin has been arrested in SC, after burning down the house he was holed up in.

Hell is waiting for him.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2019 07:30 PM (ptqGC)

118 Tin Scott?

Is a puzzlement because his pro-life record is very solid. He has co-sponsored the various PP defunding bills.

He is one of my senators; will follow up with his office (in person, if necessary) tomorrow.

Posted by: Miklos, Carolina Meridionalis at February 25, 2019 07:30 PM (zCyNd)

119 My churches pastor gave a thundering sermon against abortion a few weeks ago.... he said that it is sad if there were people in the pews that thought differently about abortion.... and perhaps they should reflect on THEIR views, and pray to God for a softened heart...

Posted by: kraken at February 25, 2019 07:30 PM (90T4r)

120
"I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that His justice cannot sleep forever." - stuff Thomas Jefferson really said.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 25, 2019 07:30 PM (LsBY9)

121 Unfortunately yes. But surprisingly the cases I've heard of are where the mother chooses to continue with the pregnancy rather than have life saving treatment.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 25, 2019 07:29 PM (2DOZq)

C-Section would not work?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 25, 2019 07:31 PM (1g7ch)

122 I think it's a mistake to keep talking about this in the context of abortion. This is not abortion.

This is killing a baby who was born alive.

Don't let people try and weasel out of their support for this by saying they support abortion or a woman's right to choose.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2019 07:31 PM (/tuJf)

123 New study estimates the Green New Deal would cost more than $65,000 per household per year

-
Who couldn't afford a quick $65k?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 25, 2019 07:31 PM (+y/Ru)

124 "I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that His justice cannot sleep forever." - stuff Thomas Jefferson really said.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 25, 2019 07:30 PM (LsBY9)
---
Nuh uh. Jefferson was a deist.

Posted by: Dogmatic Revisionist at February 25, 2019 07:31 PM (vDqXW)

125 Moloch laughs. And cheers.

Seriously, what is the difference between Democrats and Moloch worship anymore? Is there one? Would not today's Democrats fight to preserve Moloch worship, or Tlaloc ceremonies?

Posted by: Vance at February 25, 2019 07:32 PM (zzW7w)

126 "122
I think it's a mistake to keep talking about this in the context of abortion. This is not abortion.

This is killing a baby who was born alive.

Don't let people try and weasel out of their support for this by saying they support abortion or a woman's right to choose."

...
That's why the issue is getting traction. They can call it whatever they want; it obviously is what it is.

Posted by: lurker (the other one. buy radios too) at February 25, 2019 07:32 PM (eAshZ)

127 Don't let people try and weasel out of their support for this by saying they support abortion or a woman's right to choose.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2019 07:31 PM (/tuJf)

Penumbras. Emanations.

Posted by: Miklos, spitting at February 25, 2019 07:32 PM (zCyNd)

128 I'm skeptical of a poll that shows such big swing in a month. Do people change their views on something like abortion month to month? Yeah people go from one side to the other, but it happens over years or decades, not a few weeks.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 25, 2019 07:32 PM (D/hUK)

129 96 If a baby is born alive and breathing on its own, how would killing it not meet the legal definition of murder?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 25, 2019 07:24

A baby born alive after a botched abortion attempt and then murdered by the doctor is akin to a cop arriving at a crime scene where the victim is still alive and the cop telling the perpetrator to shoot the victim again.

Posted by: slowdown at February 25, 2019 07:32 PM (E+yET)

130 "They have to kill the baby before a certificate of live birth is issued."

That's a heck of a loophole. I can't figure out how something can be a thing at one moment and a person at the next.

Posted by: freaked at February 25, 2019 07:32 PM (UdKB7)

131 Penumbras. Emanations.
Posted by: Miklos, spitting at February 25, 2019 07:32 PM (zCyNd)
---
Stenches.

Posted by: Axeman at February 25, 2019 07:32 PM (vDqXW)

132 Susan Collins of Maine, the RINOiest of RINO GOPee women, DID vote Yes. Let that sink in......
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 25, 2019 07:28 PM (ujg0T

xxxxxxx

I was wrong. She does have some vestiges of humanity.

May her conscience lead her to the light.

Posted by: rd at February 25, 2019 07:33 PM (EK+Pw)

133 The movie "The Glorias" is being filmed in my town, glorifying the life of Gloria Steinem.

That haggard bitch is comparing pro-lifers to Nazis. I really hope I find myself in a restaurant with Bette Midler or another hag "star" in the movie. I won't be able to restrain myself.

I may need bailing out.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2019 07:26 PM (ptqGC)

Camille Paglia has Steinem's number as an ignorant gash who's never had a coherent thought other than self promotion.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 25, 2019 07:33 PM (y7DUB)

134 The saddest part of this is that it was more failure theater, which is why three dems were allowed to vote yes.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 25, 2019 07:33 PM (gC2IV)

135 How is it legal for planned parenthood to give political donations to democrats while accepting billions in federal funding. Isn't that the same as the Federal government giving to the democrats?

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 25, 2019 07:33 PM (h1jJh)

136
Good thing we weren't having this debate when I was a teenager. Never would have made it to 18.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 25, 2019 07:33 PM (LsBY9)

137 Abortion is murder, and in my opinion even worse than the murder of an adult.
No room for any compromise on abortion in my world.

Posted by: kraken
-----
Truth my friend. I think we will soon be called upon to assume the roles of modern day Crusaders.

St. Michael the Archangel, be my guide.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 25, 2019 07:33 PM (Y4EXg)

138 A baby born alive after a botched abortion attempt and then murdered by the doctor is akin to a cop arriving at a crime scene where the victim is still alive and the cop telling the perpetrator to shoot the victim again.

Posted by: slowdown at February 25, 2019 07:32 PM (E+yET)
---
Makes the bookwork a lot cleaner.

Posted by: Modern Urban Cop at February 25, 2019 07:33 PM (vDqXW)

139 Good point, JackStraw.... abortion does not equal infanticide..... both are abhorrent, both are murder.

Posted by: kraken at February 25, 2019 07:33 PM (90T4r)

140 What the heck is going on with Tim Scott? He seemed to be a solid conservative until recently.

When he loses his primary, it will be because of racism.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 25, 2019 07:34 PM (yQpMk)

141

Anyone remember "Social Cons?"

And "Moonbats?"

We used to use these terms when were Political Babies, Neophytes, and general fools. Meanhwile, the Evil Left was ramming their agenda through.

And here we are today.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 25, 2019 07:34 PM (eY6uE)

142 128 I'm skeptical of a poll that shows such big swing in a month. Do people change their views on something like abortion month to month? Yeah people go from one side to the other, but it happens over years or decades, not a few weeks.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 25, 2019 07:32 PM (D/hUK

xxxxxxxxxxx

Ralph Northam MD and Governor of Virginia

Make it comfortable while they decide (to kill it).

Posted by: rd at February 25, 2019 07:35 PM (EK+Pw)

143 Who couldn't afford a quick $65k?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 25, 2019 07:31 PM (+y/Ru)

it was $650,000

Posted by: Roy at February 25, 2019 07:36 PM (ABjxW)

144 What's your view on abortion, MUMR??

Posted by: kraken at February 25, 2019 07:36 PM (90T4r)

145 Maybe the progs will simply abort themselves out of existence

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 25, 2019 07:36 PM (/n551)

146 Behold, with a great plague will the Lord smite thy people, and thy children, and thy wives, and all thy goods.

Posted by: Lord Comey at February 25, 2019 07:37 PM (wxZSX)

147 it was $650,000
Posted by: Roy at February 25, 2019 07:36 PM (ABjxW)
---
Over 10 years, I believe. So, $65 K/year.

Posted by: Axeman at February 25, 2019 07:37 PM (vDqXW)

148 132 Susan Collins of Maine, the RINOiest of RINO GOPee women, DID vote Yes. Let that sink in......
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 25, 2019 07:28 PM (ujg0T

xxxxxxx

I was wrong. She does have some vestiges of humanity.

May her conscience lead her to the light.
Posted by: rd at February 25, 2019 07:33 PM (EK+Pw)

I suspect that if the pregnancy was early enough, and just a clump of cells and not a fully formed being, or if amniocentesis indicated baby was cystic fibrosis or a Down's Syndrome, or if the would be mother was impregnated by her rapist, the anti-abortion vote would not have been 53-44-3 and YES votes much fewer.

But something THIS stark, with a fully formed and about to be born baby? Even the pro-choice California GOP would not stomach that.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 25, 2019 07:37 PM (ujg0T)

149 152 it was $650,000
Posted by: Roy at February 25, 2019 07:36 PM (ABjxW)
---
Over 10 years, I believe. So, $65 K/year.
Posted by: Axeman at February 25, 2019 07:37 PM (vDqXW)

Oh, well sign me up then. If we're printing money it's easy to add a few zeros.

Posted by: Roy at February 25, 2019 07:38 PM (ABjxW)

150 147 128 I'm skeptical of a poll that shows such big swing in a month. Do people change their views on something like abortion month to month? Yeah people go from one side to the other, but it happens over years or decades, not a few weeks.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 25, 2019 07:32 PM (D/hUK

xxxxxxxxxxx

Ralph Northam MD and Governor of Virginia

Make it comfortable while they decide (to kill it).
Posted by: rd at February 25, 2019 07:35 PM (EK+Pw)

___

Yeah I guess. But if that was the reason for the shift, as soon as that story is out of the news - and it more or less is - then those people will probably go back to their pre-Northam views.

Just saying, when people changes their views like that based on a news cycle, they really have no clue what they believe. It's the same people who will decide who to vote for by flipping a coin on election day.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 25, 2019 07:38 PM (D/hUK)

151 MUMR is back?!

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at February 25, 2019 07:38 PM (IfYaq)

152

Why are we always talking about ten year plans when the Soviets could do it in five?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 25, 2019 07:38 PM (aKsyK)

153 150 Maybe the progs will simply abort themselves out of existence
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 25, 2019 07:36 PM (/n551)

Which explains their fondness for mass immigration of underclass voters.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 25, 2019 07:38 PM (ujg0T)

154 New study estimates the Green New Deal would cost more than $65,000 per household per year

Like, let's not get caught up in like, facts, m'kay? Cause I'm the boss and I said so, that's why. I'm like, soooo the adult in the, like, room.

Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah.

Posted by: Donkey Chompers at February 25, 2019 07:38 PM (zmIJL)

155 150 Maybe the progs will simply abort themselves out of existence
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 25, 2019 07:36 PM (/n551)

___

Yeah. Libs don't have kids. Problem is they run the schools and indoctrinate our kids.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 25, 2019 07:39 PM (D/hUK)

156 Why are we always talking about ten year plans when the Soviets could do it in five?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 25, 2019 07:38 PM (aKsyK)

The Soviets were more efficient that US Liberals, comrade. Let that sink in.

Posted by: Vance at February 25, 2019 07:39 PM (zzW7w)

157 Great! By posting this comment I lose three THREE Mirror Universe Mitt comment rewrites.

FML.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 25, 2019 07:39 PM (Dh1wo)

158
St. Michael Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the Devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray, and do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, by the power of God, thrust into hell Satan and all the evil spirits who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 25, 2019 07:39 PM (LsBY9)

159 6 Casey and Jones are up in 2020.

Running train!!

Posted by: AOC at February 25, 2019 07:40 PM (kR3UB)

160 The reason for the large shift in the last month is NY and VA. Early term abortion is one thing, late term and post term quite another. I think it made a lot of nominal pro choicers recoil.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 25, 2019 07:40 PM (gC2IV)

161

St. Michael Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against
the wickedness and snares of the Devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly
pray, and do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, by the power of God,
thrust into hell Satan and all the evil spirits who prowl about the
world seeking the ruin of souls.

Amen.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 25, 2019 07:41 PM (HaL55)

162 Who couldn't afford a quick $65k?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 25, 2019 07:31 PM (+y/Ru)

it was $650,000

-
For ten years. A mere $65k per year. Just cut back on Christmas presents.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 25, 2019 07:41 PM (+y/Ru)

163 My MUMR's back and there's gonna be trouble!
Oooh, my MUMR's back!

Posted by: andycanuck at February 25, 2019 07:41 PM (Dh1wo)

164
153 132 Susan Collins of Maine, the RINOiest of RINO GOPee women, DID vote Yes. Let that sink in......
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 25, 2019 07:28 PM (ujg0T

xxxxxxx

I was wrong. She does have some vestiges of humanity.

May her conscience lead her to the light.
Posted by: rd at February 25, 2019 07:33 PM (EK+Pw)

I suspect that if the pregnancy was early enough, and just a clump of cells and not a fully formed being, or if amniocentesis indicated baby was cystic fibrosis or a Down's Syndrome, or if the would be mother was impregnated by her rapist, the anti-abortion vote would not have been 53-44-3 and YES votes much fewer.

But something THIS stark, with a fully formed and about to be born baby? Even the pro-choice California GOP would not stomach that.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 25, 2019 07:37 PM (ujg0T

xxxxxxxxx

That makes the 55 Yes all accomplices to murder and infanticide.

Posted by: rd at February 25, 2019 07:41 PM (EK+Pw)

165 "I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that His justice cannot sleep forever." - stuff Thomas Jefferson really said.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 25, 2019 07:30 PM

God is just. This is why we pray for His mercy.

The more so these days...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 25, 2019 07:41 PM (hzGlR)

166 For ten years. A mere $65k per year. Just cut back on Christmas presents.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 25, 2019 07:41 PM (+y/Ru)

Yes. I'll actually get change back from my 1 Trillion Dollar note.

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 25, 2019 07:42 PM (aS1PU)

167 I also think that if this had a chance of passing, Collins would have voted no.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 25, 2019 07:42 PM (gC2IV)

168 Why don't progs just voluntarily sterilize themselves?

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at February 25, 2019 07:42 PM (JgA4k)

169 Public opinion surveys, to the extent to which anyone wants to believe them, have shown deep discomfort with abortion. Therefore "choice".

For twenty years or so, when the vocabulary is closer to reality, and not a Noam Chomsky seizure of the strategic heights of the terminology, Americans (maybe women even more so) have shown great discomfort with abortion.

It may be that the lefties are forcing a time for choosing, through an unintentional Rectification of the Names.

Posted by: Miklos, summarizing at February 25, 2019 07:43 PM (zCyNd)

170 What's the problem you racists? Just print $65,000 per family and we can afford the Green New Deal.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 25, 2019 07:43 PM (D/hUK)

171 The 'For the Children' Democrats.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 25, 2019 07:43 PM (oVJmc)

172 I think it made a lot of nominal pro choicers recoil.

Yeah, I'm not categorically anti-abortion. Safe, legal, and rare to coin a phrase.

But while 12 weeks may be morally ambiguous, 40 weeks is murder. It's not the same ballpark, it's not the same continent.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 25, 2019 07:44 PM (fuK7c)

173 People tend to sponsor bills that have no chance of passing, much less making it into law. Conversely, if the bill looked like it could pass, oh gee, why would Doug Jones suddenly vote Democrat?

This was the easiest lay up in the world for Congressional Republicans to make. And yet Tim Scott still failed to make the grade. The President has done more to stop abortion in a year than the GOP has since the 70s.

There is simply no need for a Uniparty Congress.

Posted by: trev006 at February 25, 2019 07:44 PM (gmJMS)

174 Restarting the phone yield a new IP?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 25, 2019 07:44 PM (7ynIk)

175
Who wants to bet the green new deal will pass cloture if it comes to a vote in the Senate?

And then come very close to passing in the Senate, like, by two votes short.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 25, 2019 07:44 PM (eY6uE)

176 That makes the 55 Yes all accomplices to murder and infanticide.
Posted by: rd at February 25, 2019 07:41 PM (EK+Pw)

I didn't say I liked the vote; I was saying that the YES votes (remember, YES here is pro-life and anti-abortion) would be lower if it the bill was trying to ban early term abortion. In that case, the YES votes would be fewer, perhaps much fewer.

What is REALLY horrifying is that the NO votes (anti-life and pro-abortion), on a baby just about born, are so high.

Or what Duke Lowell said:

165 The reason for the large shift in the last month is NY and VA. Early term abortion is one thing, late term and post term quite another. I think it made a lot of nominal pro choicers recoil.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 25, 2019 07:40 PM (gC2IV)

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 25, 2019 07:44 PM (ujg0T)

177 Since RvW was decided, more than 60 million babies have been aborted, more than all the people that died in WWII. Let that sink in. From the moment of conception, that "clump of cells" will become a functioning human being. It will not be a giraffe, it will not be a dolphin, and it will not be a sea gull. It is a human being. Killing it is murder, there is no other word for it.
The same people who say that eating animals is murder are the same people who say that abortion up to and just after birth is totes good.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 25, 2019 07:45 PM (gEvQ8)

178 I also think that if this had a chance of passing, Collins would have voted no.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 25, 2019 07:42 PM

Sadly, I suspect you're right.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 25, 2019 07:45 PM (hzGlR)

179 Anyone who would kill their baby is an animal anyway so let the lose their soul.

Posted by: Regular joe at February 25, 2019 07:46 PM (7PllL)

180 135 How is it legal for planned parenthood to give political donations to democrats while accepting billions in federal funding. Isn't that the same as the Federal government giving to the democrats?
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 25, 2019 07:33 PM (h1jJh)

Government employee unions are just a way to launder taxpayer money to the Democrats.

Posted by: rickl at February 25, 2019 07:46 PM (sdi6R)

181 14 What the heck is going on with Tim Scott? He seemed to be a solid conservative until recently.
Posted by: Liberty at February 25, 2019 07:07 PM (cclOX)

That's what I have been wondering today, too. What is up with the man. Is he being blackmailed?

Posted by: Flyover at February 25, 2019 07:46 PM (B5K06)

182 Yay!

This is always about comfort level. As long as they can dehumanize and distance themselves from the fact that these are human lives they are sacrificing on the altar of their ideology, they will go to any lengths to do so.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 25, 2019 07:46 PM (7ynIk)

183 I never knew before the NY law, but Colorado is one of the "abortion is fine up to birth" states It makes me feel ill every time I think about it. There is even a clinic doing the infanticides in Boulder.

I'm thinking about becoming an unaffiliated voter and trying to get a ballot measure just for "no 3rd trimester abortions anymore" and playing it as a women's health issue. "It is not 1973 anymore, its very easy to learn if you are pregnant way before 24 weeks, and if mom develops a health issue they can give give the fetus some shots to speed development and just delivery it early." Its less safe for a woman to carry a fetus longer and then have a later abortion or to have an abortion rather than just inducing labor or doing a c-section if mom develops a health issue.

I don't even think an exception is needed for "fetus has some severe issue; with the testing available today issues should be able to be detected in the first 2 trimesters. The state is so lefty infested I don't know if the ballot issue would have a chance but I'd love to force the Dems to have to SAY why infanticide is OK, and when pre-mature babies have good chances of surviving if mom gets to 26 weeks, choosing to kill that infant in the womb IS infanticide. I'm not even fully pro-life - I'm just opposed to infanticide.

Posted by: paleRider is simply irredeemable at February 25, 2019 07:48 PM (eASYU)

184 Surprising enough but most Americans don't want to murder babies. Or anybody for that matter.

Posted by: Eromero at February 25, 2019 07:48 PM (zLDYs)

185 117: Jane, it's poor comfort, but I am glad the authorities found the perp. God bless you cousin and his family, as well as you. I hope he receives justice.

Posted by: Moki at February 25, 2019 07:49 PM (mFoNl)

186 I think the chiron on Fox just said that the girl who's talking is Lara Trump.

Whoever she is, she has notable tracts of land.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 25, 2019 07:49 PM (fuK7c)

187 >>> I have never heard a woman who has had a miscarriage say ANYTHING other than "I lost the baby."

In the movie The Favorite (which disclaimer, I have not seen), the character Queen Anne has had over a dozen miscarriages, and is so emotionally scarred by them she keeps a bunny for each miscarriage. How you write that into the script and NOT see it comes across as a pro life stance? It screams pro life to me. Each of those children were precious losses.

Melissa McCarthy came out to introduce best costume in a giant gown dripping with bunnies and a bunny puppet. I thought it was hilarious...until I learned the symbolism of the bunnies in the film afterword. Ye gods.

Posted by: LizLem at February 25, 2019 07:51 PM (hvf9s)

188 Has everyone seen this already? It's been going...around today, and supposedly was sent to the Members of The Academy today as a response.
Made me say, "Still My President."Made me say, "From my Cold, Dead Hands."
https://tinyurl.com/y466zv3t

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 25, 2019 07:51 PM (8ZmvG)

189 My husband and I think a second civil war could be caused by this issue. I don't see any way to live peacefully with people who think it's okay to murder a living, born baby.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at February 25, 2019 07:51 PM (rWZ8Y)

190 I'm nominally pro-choice. But the NY/VA bills are fucked up. I think it's people like me who maybe shifted to the pro-life side in this poll. But I also think it's temporary.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 25, 2019 07:52 PM (D/hUK)

191 Right now I'm down to "only to save the mother's life" which in modern medicine is never.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 25, 2019 07:55 PM (BJlbN)

192 TuCa is doing a deep dive, his words, on fake hate crimes.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 25, 2019 07:55 PM (gC2IV)

193 "pro choice " is a bullshit cop-out.

Man up and say "pro baby murder"

Posted by: mikeyG at February 25, 2019 07:56 PM (Gi+qx)

194 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at February 25, 2019 07:56 PM (Zz0t1)

195 My husband and I think a second civil war could be caused by this issue. I don't see any way to live peacefully with people who think it's okay to murder a living, born baby.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at February 25, 2019 07:51 PM (rWZ8Y)

Yup......it may come down that the only way to stop this is by killing those commies who want to impose it on us.

Pray, prepare and harden your hearts to what you may have to do.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 25, 2019 07:56 PM (Z+IKu)

196 Have your abortion, followed immediately by sterilization, also, give us a list of all the men you had unprotected sex with, vasectomies for them.

We strive for fair.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 25, 2019 07:56 PM (LOq4H)

197 Abortion is owned and brought to us by women.
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at February 25, 2019 07:19 PM (0OmEj

And the entities that exploit them.

Posted by: Emmie at February 25, 2019 07:57 PM (4HMW8)

198 Tim Scott. That's pretty disappointing.

Posted by: Sponge at February 25, 2019 07:57 PM (Zz0t1)

199 Also coincides with the SOTU. Trump is a powerful weapon, which is why they never shut up about him.

Posted by: ... at February 25, 2019 07:57 PM (uEbPt)

200 Hello. I see we've not been having a very good day.

They can't all be winners you know.

Posted by: ALH at February 25, 2019 07:59 PM (SqKDB)

201 I have never heard of any of the survivors of abortions being pro-choice, ever. You would think that would carry more weight than it does.

So many members of my family have been born "on the wrong side of the blanket," as they used to say. Many of them are pro choice. I wonder if they ever think that if they fully embraced what they supported, a good chunk of them would not even be here. I don't dare bring it up, but it's true.

Posted by: LizLem at February 25, 2019 07:59 PM (hvf9s)

202 I remember when America as a whole frowned upon communists being in this country.

Now, they're electing them to Congress.

We're screwed.

Posted by: Sponge at February 25, 2019 07:59 PM (Zz0t1)

203 Tim Scott. That's pretty disappointing.
Posted by: Sponge at February 25, 2019 07:57 PM (Zz0t1)

What did you expect from Mr. Ban The CBF????

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 25, 2019 07:59 PM (5eToK)

204 141 anyone else have biker gang fantasies?
---
Yeah--Raimondo.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at February 25, 2019 07:59 PM (hjaPQ)

205 Tucker is brilliant as usual.

Posted by: redridinghood at February 25, 2019 07:59 PM (hECVl)

206 "Democrats' open embrace of actual infanticide -- thus clarifying a
debate that it would be better for the pro-choice side to keep
unclarified"

further clarification ... they want to be free to kill all of us.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 25, 2019 07:59 PM (Cus5s)

207 156 MUMR is back?!
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at February 25, 2019 07:38 PM (IfYaq)

MUMR = Raimondo?

Posted by: clutch at February 25, 2019 07:59 PM (kiSdp)

208 You know who else wants the right to choose?

Unborn babies .

Right before the scissors go into their skulls.

Posted by: mikeyG at February 25, 2019 08:00 PM (Gi+qx)

209
200 My husband and I think a second civil war could be caused by this issue. I don't see any way to live peacefully with people who think it's okay to murder a living, born baby.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at February 25, 2019 07:51 PM (rWZ8Y)

Yup......it may come down that the only way to stop this is by killing those commies who want to impose it on us.

Pray, prepare and harden your hearts to what you may have to do.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 25, 2019 07:56 PM (Z+IKu)

The fact that it hasn't happened already tells you all you need to know about most people.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 25, 2019 08:01 PM (5eToK)

210
OT:

Comedy Gold! Jorge Ramos and his crew from Univison are being held captive by Maduro!

El Laugh de Nelson Muntz!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2019 08:01 PM (zBaqJ)

211 re: Scott

Everyone knew this was just failure theater. Voting yes or not voting really didn't matter since there was 0% of getting to 60. It was kinda dumb on his part from an optics pov, but other than that, meh.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 25, 2019 08:01 PM (D/hUK)

212 In AOC's world, those brats spouting off in DiFi's office wouldn't have been born.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2019 08:01 PM (ptqGC)

213 J.J.Thank you for that one!

Posted by: Ben Had at February 25, 2019 08:02 PM (s+GLI)

214 What the heck is going on with Tim Scott? He seemed to be a solid conservative until recently.
Posted by: Liberty at February 25, 2019 07:07 PM (cclOX)

That's what I have been wondering today, too. What is up with the man. Is he being blackmailed?
Posted by: Flyover at February 25, 2019 07:46 PM (B5K06)

Solid conservative NOT.

Only when it's easy.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 25, 2019 08:03 PM (5eToK)

215 Comedy Gold! Jorge Ramos and his crew from Univison are being held captive by Maduro!

El Laugh de Nelson Muntz!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2019 08:01 PM

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!11!!!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 25, 2019 08:03 PM (hzGlR)

216 >>> further clarification ... they want to be free to kill all of us.

Well considering a trans person said today they want to turn conservatives into healthy bone broth, so we can actually serve a useful purpose... I'm pretty sure it was a joke, but the joking around had a pretty large edge of malice to it. "I'll grind their bones to make my bread" maybe is moving out of the realm of fairy tales. Soylent green is (conservative) people!

Posted by: LizLem at February 25, 2019 08:04 PM (hvf9s)

217 I once knew a pro choice woman who was born pre RVW and also put up for adoption. She tried to explain her stance, but I couldn't understand. A couple years later and you're not even born. I still don't get it.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 25, 2019 08:04 PM (gC2IV)

218 Comedy Gold! Jorge Ramos and his crew from Univison are being held captive by Maduro

EL O EL

Posted by: mikeyG at February 25, 2019 08:04 PM (Gi+qx)

219 Lara Trump seems like the real deal. She doesn't talk in bromides. She doesn't strike me as the Rockefeller Repub type who talks a good game but only wants to betray us first chance she gets.
But she's so polished and professional, she could be fooling me. But I don't think so. I really like her. She's good for our side.

Posted by: ... at February 25, 2019 08:04 PM (uEbPt)

220 Comedy Gold! Jorge Ramos and his crew from Univison are being held captive by Maduro

Maduro +1.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 25, 2019 08:05 PM (oVJmc)

221 Well considering a trans person said today they want to turn conservatives into healthy bone broth, so we can actually serve a useful purpose... I'm pretty sure it was a joke, but the joking around had a pretty large edge of malice to it. "I'll grind their bones to make my bread" maybe is moving out of the realm of fairy tales. Soylent green is (conservative) people!
Posted by: LizLem at February 25, 2019 08:04 PM (hvf9s)

Well, I guess that's better than taking trans people, removing their heads, shitting down their throats and leaving them to rot.

Posted by: Sponge at February 25, 2019 08:05 PM (Zz0t1)

222 OMG. Cue the Cape Fear laugh.

Posted by: ... at February 25, 2019 08:06 PM (uEbPt)

223
Comedy Gold! Jorge Ramos and his crew from Univison are being held captive by Maduro!

El Laugh de Nelson Muntz!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Can they both lose?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 25, 2019 08:06 PM (aKsyK)

224 29 I can't even come up with anything to say.

May God have mercy on us.

Abortion is murder. Murder of an innocent. In every case.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable
-------
THIS!

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at February 25, 2019 08:06 PM (aweDs)

225 Comedy Gold! Jorge Ramos and his crew from Univison are being held captive by Maduro

EL O EL
Posted by: mikeyG at February 25, 2019 08:04 PM (Gi+qx)

Can we pay Nicky to keep them?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 25, 2019 08:06 PM (SiINZ)

226 200 My husband and I think a second civil war could be caused by this
issue. I don't see any way to live peacefully with people who think it's
okay to murder a living, born baby.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at February 25, 2019 07:51 PM (rWZ8Y)

I have no idea what will start it, but the left seems to be going out of their way to make sure there are endless viable possibilities.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 25, 2019 08:06 PM (9Om/r)

227 I am in touch with a high school friend on Facebook. She's in California, was a nurse and has two daughters. She is pro-choice and would sometimes post pro-choice stuff about women no longer dying from back alley abortions. She stopped posting this stuff because I kept pointing out to her that women still die from "safe, legal abortions". And then I start in on Gosnell.

Posted by: notsothoreau at February 25, 2019 08:07 PM (JKNZq)

228
Comedy Gold! Jorge Ramos and his crew from Univison are being held captive by Maduro!

The Ransom of Red Chief, Part 2

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 25, 2019 08:07 PM (LsBY9)

229 Comedy Gold! Jorge Ramos and his crew from Univison are being held captive by Maduro!

---------

Here's hoping the ransoms aren't forthcoming, and Nicolas runs out of patience with his wards.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 25, 2019 08:07 PM (5aX2M)

230 You bastards!

The New York Times
@nytimes
Just 2 months into the new Congress, Republicans have begun an all-out assault painting Democrats as extremists - even bigots - and trying to tar moderates with their more liberal freshman counterparts' beliefs

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 25, 2019 08:07 PM (+y/Ru)

231 Comedy Gold! Jorge Ramos and his crew from Univison are being held captive by Maduro!

El Laugh de Nelson Muntz!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2019 08:01 PM (zBaqJ)

Seriously?
LOLOLOL

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 25, 2019 08:07 PM (BJlbN)

232 No one saw this coming:

Anthony Weiner ditches politics for the marijuana business

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ article-6735613/ Anthony-Weiner-ditches-politics-marijuana-business.html

What do you do when you're a nationally disgraced sex offender and infamous loser-pervert?

Become a drug dealer! Duh!

Posted by: zombie at February 25, 2019 08:07 PM (c+2jX)

233 Global warming is getting so bad residents of NY and Ontario along the Niagara river have been asked to evacuate.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 25, 2019 08:07 PM (ePWRo)

234

Comedy Gold! Jorge Ramos and his crew from Univison are being held captive by Maduro

That's too good to even check. I smell bullshit. Or should I say mierda de toro instead?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 25, 2019 08:09 PM (HaL55)

235 233 Global warming is getting so bad residents of NY and Ontario along the Niagara river have been asked to evacuate....

...their bowels in fear at how hot it will soon be!

Posted by: zombie at February 25, 2019 08:09 PM (c+2jX)

236 Giving women the right to vote was the worst thing the country ever did.

As soon as that happened the Vagina Collective formed to vote only in self interest all the way up to murdering kids so it doesn't inconvenience their meteoric rise through the glass ceiling in Burger King management.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at February 25, 2019 08:09 PM (+dsLj)

237 The New York Times
@nytimes
Just 2 months into the new Congress, Republicans have begun an all-out assault painting Democrats as extremists - even bigots - and trying to tar moderates with their more liberal freshman counterparts' beliefs
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 25, 2019 08:07 PM (+y/Ru)

I'm guessing the NYTimes hasn't listened to one Bernie stump speech, read Ocrazio CoTits tweets or watched any Eric Swallowswell Farcebook live posts.

Your pointing fingers in the wrong direction, clownshow.

Posted by: Sponge at February 25, 2019 08:10 PM (Zz0t1)

238
According to Univision's Twitter feed, he was interviewing Maduro but he didn't like the questions he was being asked and so has had them "detained."

Too. Fucking. Funny!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2019 08:10 PM (zBaqJ)

239 Just 2 months into the new Congress, Republicans have begun an all-out assault painting Democrats as extremists - even bigots - and trying to tar moderates with their more liberal freshman counterparts' beliefs

.....

Tarring and pouncing.

Posted by: mikeyG at February 25, 2019 08:10 PM (Gi+qx)

240 Weiner and Juicy both have a drug problem.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 25, 2019 08:10 PM (s+GLI)

241 nood

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 25, 2019 08:10 PM (GwY6O)

242 Trump has arrived at Dong Dang!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 25, 2019 08:10 PM (aKsyK)

243 I am in touch with a high school friend on Facebook. She's in California, was a nurse and has two daughters. She is pro-choice and would sometimes post pro-choice stuff about women no longer dying from back alley abortions. She stopped posting this stuff because I kept pointing out to her that women still die from "safe, legal abortions". And then I start in on Gosnell.
Posted by: notsothoreau at February 25, 2019 08:07 PM (JKNZq)

Seriously... why do you waste time on these scum?

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 25, 2019 08:10 PM (5eToK)

244 According to Univision's Twitter feed, he was interviewing Maduro but he didn't like the questions he was being asked and so has had them "detained."

Too. Fucking. Funny!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2019

Heh, couldn't have happened to a more pompous ass.

Posted by: Infidel at February 25, 2019 08:12 PM (9L2du)

245 @nytimes

Just 2 months into the new Congress, Republicans have begun an
all-out assault painting Democrats as extremists - even bigots - and
trying to tar moderates with their more liberal freshman counterparts'
beliefs

Mo-o-o-o-o-ommmmm!!!!

Jimmy's hitting me back!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 25, 2019 08:12 PM (oVJmc)

246 Actually, I have most of the old high school friends muted to where I don't hear much from them. Even more interesting is that when I do post something back, the brothers of two of these friends agree with me. Who knew there were still conservatives in CA?

Posted by: notsothoreau at February 25, 2019 08:14 PM (JKNZq)

247 Global warming is getting so bad residents of NY and Ontario along the Niagara river have been asked to evacuate.
-------
When ice is acting like the "walking dead" and chasing people on roads
maybe it's time sign to rethink this whole Global Warming thing.

https://twitter.com/manny_ottawa/status/
1099842295875088385

Posted by: andycanuck at February 25, 2019 08:16 PM (Dh1wo)

248 my 2 cents..
I realize that for many of you, an abortion at any point after conception is considered murder.
For many conservatives, early abortions are a grey area.. I don't know that aborting a baby at 3 months is taking a life.. a potential life, yes.. but not being religious, it is not a given for me.
Ace usually avoids this discussion, and perhaps he has changed his opinion over the years. But I recall this is a subject where he disagrees with manyof you on that point.
Practically speaking.. abortion rights are the law of the land. They ain't going away, folks.
I would like to see the emphasis being on cutting the time period where abortions are legal. 20 weeks, maybe.
If a woman cannot decide before then that she wants an abortion, she has to keep it.
An all-or-nothing strategy is, to me, just as big a folly as the lefties wanting abortion right up to birth.. and now after!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 25, 2019 08:19 PM (438dO)

249 Progs rant about pro-death penalty people being hypocrites if they're pro-life. Imagine what the death penalty would be like if the threshold was like that for abortion. Guys would get clipped for traffic violations, jaywalking or 16 items in the Express checkout line.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 25, 2019 07:18 PM (LsBY9)

Leftists, as usual, are full of $h!t. I am in favor of capital punishment and against abortion. To me, it is all about personal responsibility: the murderer must be held responsible for his actions and the fetus is in no way responsible for its conception.

Lefties like to pervert that concept because they are nasty f*kers that enjoy disgusting the normals.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 25, 2019 08:22 PM (5Yee7)

250 Pro choice isn't a thing, you're either pro life or pro abortion.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 25, 2019 08:29 PM (jXrK7)

251 Well, I guess that's better than taking trans people, removing their heads, shitting down their throats and leaving them to rot.
Posted by: Sponge at February 25, 2019 08:05 PM (Zz0t1)

About the only reason for not doing that is that it could get your ass thrown in jail.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 25, 2019 08:33 PM (nPGq2)

252 Three Republican senators did not vote on the bill: Kevin Cramer (N.D.), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska), and Tim Scott (S.C.).

According to their communications directors, both Cramer and Scott missed the vote due to flight delays.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y44yeuft

Posted by: slowdown at February 25, 2019 08:36 PM (fWdPl)

253 I know there is a new thread but I want to share my thoughts. I am prolife from conception. Abortion is murder, just as infanticide is murder. That murder is legal in our country is a cause for great dismay because their blood cries out to God. May He have mercy on us.

We should ask for a complete end to abortion and I would encourage all who object to abortion at anytime to take that stand. We should not comprimise with our own people on this, especially when we know we will have to compromise with the Democrats. We should start with a no abortion at anytime stance and go from there.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at February 25, 2019 08:52 PM (IDhUW)

254 Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 25, 2019 08:19 PM (438dO)

How about 3 months and one day? Or 3 months and two days, etc. You tell me who gets to live or die based on a day.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 25, 2019 08:56 PM (2DOZq)

255 Unfortunately, this is a push poll commissioned by pro-life group Knights of Columbus. Dem groups do this all the time with Public Policy Polling. Last election cycle, PPP would poll the same Senate race on it's own and, often, for a liberal health care group. There would be a 10 pt difference in the results. If Marist had found this result on it's own, it would be good news.

Posted by: david venable at February 25, 2019 09:12 PM (GvtHE)

256 Yes, I can confirm that Cramer, at least, missed the vote because of a flight delay. He's rock solid prolife.

Posted by: MaxCon at February 25, 2019 09:35 PM (YoqyA)

257 248---An all-or-nothing strategy is, to me, just as big a folly as the lefties wanting abortion right up to birth.. and now after!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 25, 2019 08:19 PM (438dO)
---------------------
Absolutely agree.

But cut the "potential life" crap. (Are you a parrot?)
It if weren't alive, you wouldn't have to kill it.

The individual human life begins at conception. Period.
Biology 101.
The question (for anyone but lefty parrots and imbeciles) is at what point that life should be regarded as a legal person.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 25, 2019 09:46 PM (Rxduq)

258 253---We should start with a no abortion at anytime stance and go from there.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at February 25, 2019 08:52 PM (IDhUW)
---------------------------
No.
We START with no abortion after viability.
We START where we have 85% of the country with us.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 25, 2019 09:51 PM (Rxduq)

259 Lock up your children and elderly family members.

Posted by: Summer of Love at February 25, 2019 11:31 PM (FJrl0)

260 Just.Say.NO.

Posted by: Beverly at February 26, 2019 01:54 AM (vMGS8)

Processing 0.03, elapsed 0.0547 seconds.
14 queries taking 0.0287 seconds, 268 records returned.
Page size 140 kb.
Powered by Minx 0.8 beta.