Mobility [KT]

Where do we go from here?

Last week, we discussed here how Gavin Newsom planned to destroy the planet by shortening the California high-speed rail project from the big dream of a three-hour trip from LA to San Francisco to a sort of fast trip between Bakersfield and Merced. If we are not all dead in 12 years, how will we get around in the future?

The Sacramento Bee has a few corrections to the information we had last week. And the Babylon Bee reminds us that our Washington legislators remain undeterred in their Big Green Dreams:

A new environmental proposal would have the US replace all public and private spacecraft with high-speed trains by the year 2030, reports confirmed Thursday.
"We are wasting so much rocket fuel to generate the thrust necessary to leave Earth's orbit when we could just build a train track all the way to Mars or Jupiter," said a lobbyist for the train industry. "And just think about how pleasant a ride from Earth to Mars would be, coasting along the space tracks at 200 miles per hour for the next 193 years." . . .
California is ahead of the curve and has already begun work on its own high-speed space rail, but it was immediately delayed for 770 years and will now cost 52x the original estimate.

Meanwhile, back on earth, a piece in the Sacramento Bee assures us that Gavin Newsom did not kill high-speed rail. Instead, Newsom's plan is an improvement on the original plan for the Central Valley segment of high-speed rail:

Administration officials point out Newsom's plan expands the high-speed rail line by about 50 miles in the Valley. Under his revised concept, trains will run into downtown Bakersfield, rather than stopping outside the city. And Newsom plans to extend the line farther north to Merced, instead of the previous Valley terminus at Madera.

Think about that: The original plan was to have a bullet train STOP OUTSIDE THE CITY.

I saw a few more surprises in the revised map from the HSR authority:

Although the big selling point for this plan was the LA to San Francisco run, there is no future plan for high-speed rail from Los Angeles to San Francisco shown on the map. What about that ultra-expensive new terminal in San Francisco?

Also note that the current planned HSR route parallels the existing Amtrak route. There is a plan for a future "express" route to Manteca. So there's that.

We also touched on Gavin Newsom's emphasis on planning future housing in California, including planning for alternate modes of transportation like electric scooters. Here's a story about electric scooters for tourists in San Francisco, Santa Monica and elsewhere around the country. Electric scooters might make a nice replacement for high-speed rail in Frisco.

The latest way to sightsee requires an app, a sense of balance and a thumb to operate a throttle. Dockless electric scooters are a great way to explore a city, says Paul DeMaio, who manages the bike- and scooter-share programs in Arlington, Virginia. "It can be a lot of fun." In some areas the programs, which offer short-term rentals for just a few dollars, have been controversial: Parked scooters can block sidewalks, and inexperienced, unhelmeted riders have been injured. But cities have adopted regulations, and the popularity is booming.

Have you ever done this? Would you do it? More importantly, should neighborhoods be planned for electric scooter travel, as suggested in last week's commentary on Gavin Newsom's State of the State address?

I am not up to talking about autonomous "green" cars today. You can bring the topic up in the comments if you know anything new. Meanwhile, Chevy is discontinuing the Volt.

Space Travel

While politicians make plans like these, space travel using fossil fuels moves forward. Insty is always a good source for the latest in formation. I just did a search for "space" and got recent results on Virgin Galactic reaching space again, a successful launch by SpaceX, possible lunar travel, asteroids, space junk and more.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez probably does not approve.

Some Practical Green Transportation?

Insty also linked a piece on a study suggesting that electric bikes increase brain function in older adults. As long as you don't fall on your head, of course.

And here's a guy dealing with the recent effects of global warming in a creative way: a bicycle snowplow.

Looks like good exercise. I can imagine certain members of The Horde coming up with something like this.

Related

Nice thread (on Thread Reader) concerning cheap energy, by John Hayward:

One important point to understand about the #GreenNewDeal mindset is that socialists HATE middle-class people having access to cheap energy. They really thought they were going to put a stake in the middle-class heart under Obama, who dreamed of $10/gallon gas.

When vital goods and services are cheap and readily available, people don't think an all-powerful maternal government is necessary. Attacking the American energy industry offers the Left a way to make EVERYTHING more expensive, all at once. . .
Another side effect of the war on cheap energy the Left would find very useful is reduced mobility for the American people. They HATE it when the serfs move around too much.
Highly mobile people can seek out opportunity and move out of Democrat-run hell hole districts. More expensive energy would destroy the mobility that makes rural and suburban living attractive. As you might have noticed, the Left loathes rural and suburban living.

Hope you are able to get out and about some this weekend. Have a good one.

Yes, this is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:26 AM

Comments

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1 Where's my Obama gas?

Oh, right.

Posted by: Miklos at February 23, 2019 11:27 AM (zCyNd)

2 I even read the content

Posted by: Blutarski at February 23, 2019 11:27 AM (+Tibp)

3 I'm still waiting for my flying car, but hey ...

Posted by: Adriane the Auto Cucumber Critic ... at February 23, 2019 11:27 AM (LPnfS)

4 Like I really really want to go to Bakersfield.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2019 11:27 AM (0tfLf)

5 The Onion of Spades?

Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2019 11:28 AM (mpXpK)

6 And first in the hearts of his Moroncountrymen?

Posted by: Miklos, just Miklos at February 23, 2019 11:28 AM (zCyNd)

7 I think I saw that bridge in Fallout 3.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 23, 2019 11:29 AM (9Om/r)

8 Wouldn't it be a lot easier to mug someone on an electric scooter than someone in a car?

Win-Win for California Democrats. They get the enviro-virtue signal cred, plus a low-cost income program for their constituents.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 23, 2019 11:30 AM (VaN/j)

9 We need that new bridge here!

Posted by: Nowhere at February 23, 2019 11:31 AM (zCyNd)

10 Electric scooters are green because electricity is free,it comes out of those little holes in the wall.

Posted by: steevy at February 23, 2019 11:32 AM (BXMxN)

11 There is a plan for a future "express" route to Manteca.

Manteca is Spanish for lard. Ponder that.

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 23, 2019 11:32 AM (aS1PU)

12 Win-Win for California Democrats. They get the enviro-virtue signal cred, plus a low-cost income program for their constituents.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 23, 2019 11:30 AM (VaN/j)

Little poop scoopers will be mandatory.

Posted by: Miklos, Walking to New Orleans at February 23, 2019 11:32 AM (zCyNd)

13 The Babylon Bee is funny but not all the way a parody because there is a real possibility of a space elevator.

Posted by: Ana at February 23, 2019 11:32 AM (2DOZq)

14 Like I really really want to go to Bakersfield.
Posted by: Diogenes

You don't know me, but you don't like me...

Posted by: Dwight Yokum and Buck Owens at February 23, 2019 11:32 AM (+Tibp)

15 Hope you are able to get out and about some this weekend. Have a good one.

NFW. After a busier than usual week (for an old fart) it's just me and the Mrs, cocooning.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 23, 2019 11:32 AM (VaN/j)

16 There is a plan for a future "express" route to Manteca.

Manteca is Spanish for lard. Ponder that.

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 23, 2019 11:32 AM (aS1PU)

Book me two seats.

Posted by: Ana Navarro at February 23, 2019 11:33 AM (zCyNd)

17 That ramp is just waiting for Henry Gibson in a Pinto wagon.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2019 11:33 AM (oVJmc)

18 Off left over nail filing sock.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 23, 2019 11:33 AM (2DOZq)

19 Little poop scoopers will be mandatory.
Posted by: Miklos, Walking to New Orleans at February 23, 2019 11:32 AM (zCyNd)

There's a thought. Crap-powered tourist scooters in SF. Send that to Newsom; I'll bet the consultant fees will be generous.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 23, 2019 11:34 AM (VaN/j)

20 Gettin' sporty in La France

Posted by: Blutarski at February 23, 2019 11:35 AM (+Tibp)

21 10 Electric scooters are green because electricity is free,it comes out of those little holes in the wall.
Posted by: steevy at February 23, 2019 11:32 AM (BXMxN)

I thought it was either a magic tree or some asteroid.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 23, 2019 11:35 AM (VaN/j)

22 The answer is staring them right in the face. San Francisco to LA and back. Five hours in comfort, and near silent travel with great views. Reliable.

Derrigibles.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2019 11:35 AM (Ssh2k)

23 This is why Bezos and Musk have launch site in Texas.

Keep fucking that space chicken, California!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at February 23, 2019 11:35 AM (kQs4Y)

24 What about Otisville?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2019 11:35 AM (/tuJf)

25 Electric scooter companies should have to provide handicap alternatives.

Rule #4: "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."

- Alinsky

Posted by: Marooned at February 23, 2019 11:35 AM (8hRlF)

26 The Onion of Spades?
Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2019 11:28

It's worn on the belt, isn't it?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 23, 2019 11:36 AM (9ly5p)

27 The answer is staring them right in the face. San Francisco to LA and back. Five hours in comfort, and near silent travel with great views. Reliable.

Derrigibles.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2019 11:35 AM (Ssh2k)

I'd fly that.

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 23, 2019 11:36 AM (aS1PU)

28 Electric scooters are green because electricity is free,it comes out of those little holes in the wall.
Posted by: steevy at February 23, 2019 11:32 AM (BXMxN)

Finally!

*does Green happy dance*

Posted by: A O C at February 23, 2019 11:36 AM (zCyNd)

29 19 Little poop scoopers will be mandatory.
Posted by: Miklos, Walking to New Orleans at February 23, 2019 11:32 AM (zCyNd)

There's a thought. Crap-powered tourist scooters in SF. Send that to Newsom; I'll bet the consultant fees will be generous.
Posted by: Eeyore at February 23, 2019 11:34 AM (VaN/j)

Little deuce coupe!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at February 23, 2019 11:36 AM (kQs4Y)

30 Think about that: The original plan was to have a bullet train STOP OUTSIDE THE CITY.

*******

You'll have to hop a commuter plane for the remainder of the trip.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2019 11:37 AM (m45I2)

31 What about Otisville?
Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2019 11:35 AM

Otisville?!

Posted by: Lex Luthor at February 23, 2019 11:37 AM (9ly5p)

32 The answer is staring them right in the face. San Francisco to LA and
back. Five hours in comfort, and near silent travel with great views.
Reliable.

Derrigibles.

Zip line.

Build a two-mile high tower at each end. Zip to ground level in your destination city.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2019 11:37 AM (oVJmc)

33 No offense to the Californicans, but I really don't care what is happening in that state.

I'm not saying they should go to hell, because they're already there.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2019 11:37 AM (cY3LT)

34 It is a shame government (especially blue state government) is so terrible at everything, because I actually think if something like this could be built, it would benefit commerce like building freeways.

I find myself though opposing any and all public transportation now because it really does just seem to make things worse and just becomes a slush fund for Democrats.

Posted by: Blago at February 23, 2019 11:37 AM (UfkIY)

35 What about Otisville?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2019 11:35 AM (/tuJf)

He's in his cell.

Posted by: Deputy Barneyville at February 23, 2019 11:37 AM (zCyNd)

36 Deplorigibles.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at February 23, 2019 11:38 AM (kQs4Y)

37 22 The answer is staring them right in the face. San Francisco to LA and back. Five hours in comfort, and near silent travel with great views. Reliable.

Derrigibles.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2019 11:35 AM (Ssh2k)

Edgar Allan Poe wrote a little-read story foreseeing, in effect, dirigibles towed by trains as the future mode of travel.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 23, 2019 11:38 AM (VaN/j)

38 I was going to make a joke about the Progs hating walls to keep people out but loving walls to keeps their own people in but then I remembered the Iron Curtain

Posted by: Le Garde Vieux at February 23, 2019 11:38 AM (swldI)

39 I have long said there are three great changes that advanced human freedom:
Transportation, e.g. cars
Personal defense, e.g. guns
Land, e.g. the discovery of the Americas

Note how government, and lefties in particular, fight tooth and nail to further advances

CAFE standards and unlimited funds for mass transit, zero for personal transit. And, excessive regulations and taxes to keep fuel expensive.
Gun restrictions
Environmental laws, millions of empty, wasted acres of "government" land. And even NASA for years had as it's primary unstated mission to prevent private exploration

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 23, 2019 11:38 AM (TN1P5)

40 Electric scooters are green because electricity is free,it comes out of those little holes in the wall.

*******

AOC proposes the Affordable Really Long Extension Cord For All Act of 2019.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2019 11:39 AM (m45I2)

41 Manteca is Spanish for lard. Ponder that.
Posted by: DR.WTF at February 23, 2019 11:32 AM (aS1PU)

Eat enough Manteca, and it won't be only the trains that are "express".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2019 11:39 AM (nPGq2)

42 The previously approved hsr went from nowhere 171 miles to nowhere.

This was approved knowing damn well it was a boondoggle by what administration again?

No wonder Cali doesn't want to return federal funds - it was clearly a straight up give away (psst, just stir some dirt and we'll pretend it was a big big project, yeah, monorail)

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 23, 2019 11:40 AM (1g7ch)

43 Bernie is all in on Venezuela and would explain socialism has encountered some bumps in the road there but he hasn't got time and you're probably too dumb to understand anyway.

https://bit.ly/2E4ZsCX

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2019 11:41 AM (+y/Ru)

44 Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 23, 2019 11:38 AM (TN1P5)

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Every Statist wants a modern form of the old ways of kings, vassals and serfs.

How much nicer it was, when we owned them all from cradle to grave, is their thinking.

They despise modernity.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 23, 2019 11:41 AM (5aX2M)

45 The Babylon Bee is funny but not all the way a parody because there is a real possibility of a space elevator.
Posted by: Ana at February 23, 2019 11:32 AM (2DOZq)

Not without some orders-of-magnitude discoveries in material science. We don't have strong enough or light enough cables, yet.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2019 11:41 AM (nPGq2)

46 Which is the way that's clear?

Posted by: Burger Chef at February 23, 2019 11:41 AM (RuIsu)

47 Pulled in from the prior thread:

I have come to expect that people will shop for a diagnosis to excuse their choices. This is getting worse by the year, as no one ever got paid for treating poor choices. A "disease" model must be imposed to charge insurance companies for "care"

*****

Exactly right, CN.

I also think the drive to create a 'disease model' as yu put it, (a process I call "defining disease downward") comes from multiple sources.

e.g. Medical societies such as Amer. Heart Assoc. or Amer. Diabetes Assoc, have a vested interest in maintaining their ascendancy, to justify their existence (not to mention the fund-raising) by magnifying the impact of their pet condition. So half the population is told they have "pre"-hypertension or "pre"-diabetes. Voila, a whole new instant constituency and potential revenue stream. You're going to need confirmatory testing and ongoing monitoring (at intervals defined by what Medicare/Medicaid will reimburse) don't you know?.
Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2019 11:18 AM (m45I2)

Depression is the #1 mental health diagnosis given.

Why?

Because that's where the pills are.

So now you have drug pushers (people with licenses to prescribe) calling every sadness, every grief, every frustration as a diagnosis, because there's a pill for that.

I have conversations with people, and I have to all but tell them "your doctor doesn't really know what's wrong with you. He only knows what bothers him about you, and he has a pill he can give you, not so YOU can get better, but so you can stop bothering him with your problem."

Easier to say it that way, then to say "your doctor is treating you for a disease you don't have, because he's a crook and a drug pusher."

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2019 11:41 AM (cY3LT)

48 There is a plan for a future "express" route to Manteca.

Manteca is Spanish for lard. Ponder that.
Posted by: DR.WTF at February 23, 2019 11:32 AM (aS1PU)

Gives new meaning to budgets full of pork.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 23, 2019 11:42 AM (3sjI6)

49 , Chevy is discontinuing the Volt.
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Fire sale?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2019 11:42 AM (U7Mh9)

50
The bicycle snow plow is clever. Hard to believe he gets traction, though. I have a plow on my tractor and I *have* to have chains installed or it doesn't move.

Chains. I'm probably the one guy in a thousand who knows what they are, or who has installed them, or still continues to install them.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 23, 2019 11:43 AM (jYje5)

51 >>The answer is staring them right in the face. San Francisco to LA and back. Five hours in comfort, and near silent travel with great views. Reliable.

Derrigibles

The already have the hangars at Moffet Field.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2019 11:44 AM (/tuJf)

52 Sacramento Bee = Hated Bee

Posted by: torabora at February 23, 2019 11:44 AM (Q1UO3)

53
Meanwhile, Chevy is discontinuing the Volt.

I guess I should be shocked by that, but you'll be met with no resistance.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 23, 2019 11:45 AM (jYje5)

54 Bernie is all in on Venezuela and would explain socialism has encountered some bumps in the road there but he hasn't got time and you're probably too dumb to understand anyway.

https://bit.ly/2E4ZsCX
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2019 11:41 AM (+y/Ru)

I used to think Bernie was just a stupid ignorant fool. Now I'm sure he's evil.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2019 11:45 AM (cY3LT)

55 Bernie is all in on Venezuela and would explain socialism has encountered some bumps in the road there but he hasn't got time and you're probably too dumb to understand anyway.

https://bit.ly/2E4ZsCX
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2019 11:41 AM (+y/Ru)

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There was a dumb phuch on a Fox panel this week trying to blame the failures of Socialism on neighboring Capitalism. It seems the existence of Capitalism lures the sheep away, aka True Socialism has never been tried, yada, yada.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 23, 2019 11:45 AM (ffYR/)

56 Any time any of those three become cheaper or more available, human freedom increases.

Any time they become less available or more expensive, human freedom decreases.

Government control and power increase and decrease alongside

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 23, 2019 11:46 AM (TN1P5)

57 And even NASA for years had as it's primary unstated mission to prevent private exploration
Posted by: RoyalOil
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Yes, but not it's top priority:

Jul 06, 2010 · The head of the Nasa has said Barack Obama told him to make "reaching out to the Muslim world" one of the space agency's top priorities.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2019 11:46 AM (U7Mh9)

58 Chevy is discontinuing the Volt.

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Fire sale?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2019 11:42 AM

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Not a real surprise as they idled the plant anywhere from 2 to 4 months a year since they started building them.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2019 11:46 AM (JUOKG)

59 Deplorigibles.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at February 23, 2019 11:38 AM (kQs4Y)

********

I actually snorted a little bit.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2019 11:47 AM (0tfLf)

60 Where do we go from here?

Thanks a lot for the earworm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNl3BEoeWkg

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2019 11:47 AM (sdi6R)

61 Chevy is discontinuing the Volt.
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Fire sale?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2019 11:42 AM (U7Mh9)

Imagine that, the fascists thought they could sell America on the Voltswagon. I guess we just don't have enough national pride.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2019 11:48 AM (cY3LT)

62 Think I'll stick with my 2500HD and fisher V plow

Posted by: REDACTED at February 23, 2019 11:49 AM (RZ6R1)

63 There was a dumb phuch on a Fox panel this week trying to blame the failures of Socialism on neighboring Capitalism. It seems the existence of Capitalism lures the sheep away, aka True Socialism has never been tried, yada, yada.
Posted by: Calm Mentor
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It's worth noting that Norway, often trotted out by the ignorant as a successful model of socialism, invests their welfare fund...here. And other capitalist countries. They put the funds in things like Apple, MSFT, and etc. Curious, that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2019 11:49 AM (Ou6XS)

64 The left yearns for a return to the Medieval period, where serfs (95% of everybody) are bound to the land and spend their entire lives within 10 miles of the place where they are born, while the Ruling Class gets to jet around and enjoy summers in Italy and go and do whatever they want.

Every single one of the left's transportation policies is aimed at this goal.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2019 11:49 AM (V2Yro)

65 Jerry was all about the bridge.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 11:50 AM (PUmDY)

66

I much prefer my transportation with 4 wheels and a steel roof. A heater is an added bonus.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 23, 2019 11:50 AM (S/hVx)

67 It really shouldn't need to be said, but it's a mistake to have the technically illiterate (read politicians) making decisions on technical matters. They really just don't seem to understand that physics doesn't care if you think it's a good idea.

Posted by: pep at February 23, 2019 11:50 AM (T6t7i)

68 Ahoy!

Posted by: Gavin Screwsom at February 23, 2019 11:50 AM (Tyii7)

69 We don't have strong enough or light enough cables, yet.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2019 11:41 AM (nPGq2)

Hemp!!

Posted by: Miklos with gray ponytail and Birkenstocks at February 23, 2019 11:50 AM (zCyNd)

70 Every Statist wants a modern form of the old ways of kings, vassals and serfs.

How much nicer it was, when we owned them all from cradle to grave, is their thinking.

They despise modernity.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 23, 2019 11:41 AM (5aX2M)

That's not how feudalism worked, you know. Hate to be pedantic. (Well, actually I like to.)

Posted by: Eeyore at February 23, 2019 11:51 AM (VaN/j)

71 64 The left yearns for a return to the Medieval period, where serfs (95% of everybody) are bound to the land and spend their entire lives within 10 miles of the place where they are born, while the Ruling Class gets to jet around and enjoy summers in Italy and go and do whatever they want.

Every single one of the left's transportation policies is aimed at this goal.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2019 11:49 AM (V2Yro)

Yep, and also the nobles ate meat while the peasants ate gruel. We're seeing moves towards that as well.

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2019 11:51 AM (sdi6R)

72 There was a dumb phuch on a Fox panel this week trying to blame the failures of Socialism on neighboring Capitalism. It seems the existence of Capitalism lures the sheep away, aka True Socialism has never been tried, yada, yada.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 23, 2019 11:45 AM (ffYR/)

You know, if Socialism (Communism) really were a robust and viable politico/economic system, it really wouldn't need the "right" people running it, would it? It would be inherently self-correcting.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2019 11:51 AM (nPGq2)

73 13 The Babylon Bee is funny but not all the way a parody because there is a real possibility of a space elevator."

I know, I thought of that too! I don't know if it could ever work on Earth, because of weather, but if there's ever such a thing as a moon base it could be the most elegant solution for making orbit.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2019 11:51 AM (V2Yro)

74 Not a real surprise as they idled the plant anywhere from 2 to 4 months a year since they started building them.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
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I believe that the overwhelming number of sales were to government agencies/fleets.

In the absence of those sales, and subsidies, it never would have sold at all.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2019 11:51 AM (Ou6XS)

75 Some Moron mentioned Bernie should voluntarily go to Venezuela and help them fix their socialist model. When it's up and running, people are happy, fed, safe and productive, he can come back here and show his work.

Motherfuckinghamsterfucker

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2019 11:52 AM (PkVlr)

76 I hate premature posts but anyone got opinions on bechamel sauce vs ricotta in a lasagna ?

I got a pile of leftover MBs and sauce just crying for a pan

Posted by: REDACTED at February 23, 2019 11:52 AM (RZ6R1)

77 Chevy is discontinuing the Volt.

Too much resistance.

Posted by: Miklos with 100-in-1 Radio Shack kit at February 23, 2019 11:52 AM (zCyNd)

78 47: Many of the "depression" cases are situational and pills won't help anyway. GPs and ERs are pushed to ask about depression and then they must "treat" it. No pill will cure your financial ills, stop your SO from breaking up with you, etc. These are cases where time and family support help, not medications, but a harried GP has to screen for depression, just as now they are being pushed to document access to guns. The TJC, thanks

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2019 11:52 AM (U7k5w)

79 The head of the Nasa has said Barack Obama told him to make "reaching
out to the Muslim world" one of the space agency's top priorities.

What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: Splodey Rockets at February 23, 2019 11:52 AM (Tyii7)

80 Jul 06, 2010 � The head of the Nasa has said Barack Obama told him to make "reaching out to the Muslim world" one of the space agency's top priorities.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2019 11:46 AM (U7Mh9)

ICBM's travel through space on their journey.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2019 11:53 AM (nPGq2)

81
Yesterday's technology at tomorrow's cost. But.. but.. the Europeans!!!

Next up: high-speed Zeppelin service.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 23, 2019 11:53 AM (RAdsH)

82 There was a dumb phuch on a Fox panel this week trying to blame the failures of Socialism on neighboring Capitalism. It seems the existence of Capitalism lures the sheep away, aka True Socialism has never been tried, yada, yada.
Posted by: Calm Mentor
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It's worth noting that Norway, often trotted out by the ignorant as a successful model of socialism, invests their welfare fund...here. And other capitalist countries. They put the funds in things like Apple, MSFT, and etc. Curious, that.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2019 11:49 AM (Ou6XS)

The Swedes seem to take a piss at the Norwaygians all the time, and I'm not sure what goes on there, really, but one truth that COULD be explored, if anyone cared to, is the correlation between increased socialism and decreased birth rates.

It may take longer, but the otherwise peaceful and prosperous mono-culture Euro nations have been dying from the inside out, which would explain why they are now importing swarthy types from elsewhere. But as we've seen, that causes... other problems.

So yeah, no.

I think your death will come with socialism, you just have to pick which form it takes, based on where you are located geographically, what your history was before you adopted it, and how many brown people you import, and how fast.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2019 11:54 AM (cY3LT)

83 Hey, the CA high speed rail project has fulfilled its goal of filling the pockets of Dem donors with sweet sweet taxpayer money.

Therefore, success!

Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 23, 2019 11:54 AM (Hx3Yn)

84 >>It's worth noting that Norway, often trotted out by the ignorant as a successful model of socialism, invests their welfare fund...here. And other capitalist countries. They put the funds in things like Apple, MSFT, and etc. Curious, that.

Norway has a mostly homogenous population of a little over 5 million and an assload of oil. It has fewer people than Long Island. Trying to pretend one of these tiny Baltic countries is a model for a highly diverse country of 320+ million is Bernie level stupid.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2019 11:54 AM (/tuJf)

85 79 The head of the Nasa has said Barack Obama told him to make "reaching
out to the Muslim world" one of the space agency's top priorities.

What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: Splodey Rockets at February 23, 2019 11:52 AM (Tyii7)

yeah, splodey rockets, I'd like to "reach out" to the muslim world - with an ICBM!

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2019 11:55 AM (V2Yro)

86 In the absence of those sales, and subsidies, it never would have sold at all.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2019 11:51 AM

Objection. My idiot FB friend who is a full n socialist was bragging about his glorious new Volt and all if his solar panels. Sucker. Every minute. Etc.

Posted by: Lex Luthor at February 23, 2019 11:55 AM (9ly5p)

87 Norway has a mostly homogenous population of a little over 5 million and an assload of oil. It has fewer people than Long Island. Trying to pretend one of these tiny Baltic countries is a model for a highly diverse country of 320+ million is Bernie level stupid.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2019 11:54 AM (/tuJf)

Yup and every left wing socialist out there does exactly that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2019 11:55 AM (bim/x)

88 I forget who it was, but somebody said the other day that the Babylon Bee is *trying* to be a satire site, but they are being forced against their will to be a serious news site.

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2019 11:55 AM (sdi6R)

89 64 The left yearns for a return to the Medieval period, where serfs (95% of everybody) are bound to the land and spend their entire lives within 10 miles of the place where they are born, while the Ruling Class gets to jet around and enjoy summers in Italy and go and do whatever they want.

Every single one of the left's transportation policies is aimed at this goal.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2019 11:49 AM (V2Yro)

Again, that's not quite right. Yes, the serfs were bound to the land (which, BTW, meant they couldn't be sold or evicted.) But the nobles' "summers in Italy" happened only on campaign. Those came much later. Mostly 18th C and later. Especially later.

The trouble with all this talk about "those terrible Middle Ages" is that it leads you, eventually, right where it led Jonah Goldberg and Kevin Williamson. Let's not go there.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 23, 2019 11:56 AM (VaN/j)

90 Chevy is discontinuing the Volt.

Too much resistance.
Posted by: Miklos with 100-in-1 Radio Shack kit at February 23, 2019 11:52 AM

*******

I'm positive this is not a negative.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2019 11:56 AM (Ssh2k)

91 I used to think Bernie was just a stupid ignorant fool. Now I'm sure he's evil.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2019 11:45 AM (cY3LT)

He's hard line soviet style marxist. Evil doesn't begin to cover it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 23, 2019 11:56 AM (9Om/r)

92 Chevy is discontinuing the Volt.

Too much resistance.
Posted by: Miklos
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That's the current thought.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2019 11:56 AM (2kj6M)

93 It would be interesting for some journo to ask AOC for her analysis of the Volt failure.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2019 11:57 AM (2kj6M)

94 85: When did society start "reaching out" rather than "contacting"

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2019 11:57 AM (U7k5w)

95 I think we should require Nancy Pelosi to travel from her district to Washington and back only using renewables.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2019 11:57 AM (oVJmc)

96 The answer is staring them right in the face. San Francisco to LA and back. Five hours in comfort, and near silent travel with great views. Reliable.

Derrigibles

The already have the hangars at Moffet Field.
Posted by: JackStraw

Awesome, in style, whale watching. We could use Crimson Skies for cheap animation grabs for marketing.

Posted by: Jean at February 23, 2019 11:57 AM (25Dt7)

97
Chevy is discontinuing the Volt.

Too much resistance.
Posted by: Miklos

Shocking news.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 23, 2019 11:58 AM (TAmPV)

98 55 minutes to Yankees-Red Sox

Oh boy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2019 11:58 AM (bim/x)

99 Chains.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 23, 2019 11:43 AM (jYje5)

I lived in the Bay Area and skied in Tahoe, so I am intimately familiar with chains!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2019 11:58 AM (wYseH)

100 Not a real surprise as they idled the plant anywhere from 2 to 4 months a year since they started building them.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
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I believe that the overwhelming number of sales were to government agencies/fleets.

In the absence of those sales, and subsidies, it never would have sold at all.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2019 11:51 AM (Ou6XS)

I know somebody who owns one.

Guess where (which sector) this person works. Go ahead, guess!

You'll be shocked.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2019 11:58 AM (cY3LT)

101 Not a real surprise as they idled the plant anywhere from 2 to 4 months a year since they started building them.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
I detest GM with a.....burning detestitude, but they do seem to be making good moves now. IOW, they're saying screw the politics (including Trump) and set the company up for the future as best they can. Whether they'll succeed is a different question, but getting rid of white elephants like the Volt is a good start.

Posted by: pep at February 23, 2019 11:58 AM (T6t7i)

102 Norway has a mostly homogenous population of a little over 5 million and an assload of oil."

It's almost as if you take a small, all white, educated and civilized population, almost any form of government would work!

and then there's the sad fact that over the last 100 years or so the Arab world has tried Monarchy, Oligarchy, Democracy, Theocracy, and Thugacracy, as well as Capitalism, Socialism and Communism, and not a *single* thing that has been tried in any of those countries has ever "worked". (except for having a Big Man who shoots anyone who bothers him, which works until the Big Man dies)

Funny, that. It's almost like Culture has something to do with it all.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2019 11:59 AM (V2Yro)

103 CA's soda/gas/water taxes are all wildly popular ideas to most Californians. They all show great enthusiasm about it. Newsome has said he asked them all. Everybody! The lawyers, the attorneys, the IT and HVAC crews, the postal crew, the recreational and gaming coordinators, the masseuse, the chefs, butlers, maids, groundskeepers and yes, even the pool boy! It's Win Win!

Posted by: Corona at February 23, 2019 11:59 AM (MceDl)

104 I have a friend who is a surgeon, orthopedic.
Does things like sports injuries, sets a lot of broken bones, that sort of thing.
I asked "How's biz?"
"Booming" he said.
I asked to what he attributed the boom.
"Scooters, skateboards, bikes." He said.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 23, 2019 11:59 AM (w7KSn)

105 When I think of a world-saving government entity, I think of Caltrans.

Posted by: Fritz at February 23, 2019 12:00 PM (wxZSX)

106 JEWS IN SPACE !!!

https://tinyurl.com/y54ueq5d

The lander, named Beresheet (meaning "in the beginning" in Hebrew), was
built by the Israeli nonprofit organization SpaceIL, which began working
on this mission in 2011 as a contestant in the Google Lunar X Prize.

Posted by: Off the reservation at February 23, 2019 12:00 PM (vWMNq)

107 Norway has a mostly homogenous population of a little over 5 million and an assload of oil. It has fewer people than Long Island. Trying to pretend one of these tiny Baltic countries is a model for a highly diverse country of 320+ million is Bernie level stupid.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2019 11:54 AM (/tuJf)

Norway is not a Baltic country; it has no coastline on the Baltic Sea. Sweden and Finland, and Germany and Poland do, too, but they are also not "Baltic countries". Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania are the Baltic Countries. It doesn't have to make sense, it's by definition.

The rest of your post is 100% right!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2019 12:00 PM (nPGq2)

108 Poem are made by fools like me
But only God can make electricity

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2019 12:00 PM (+y/Ru)

109 I'm a little bit frustrated over this crack down on massage parlors. Who the flying fuck cares if I get my meat shaft and hairy balls played with after a rubdown?

Especially that time of the month when my spouse is a whiny bitch.

#BringBackOurGirls

Posted by: Michelle Obama at February 23, 2019 12:00 PM (qHJDl)

110 Chevy is discontinuing the Volt.

Too much resistance.
Posted by: Miklos
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That's the current thought.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2019 11:56 AM (2kj6M)
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Ohm my God.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 23, 2019 12:00 PM (Hx3Yn)

111 104: I hear snowboarding helps the practices in winter

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2019 12:00 PM (U7k5w)

112 Let them eat empanadas.

Posted by: Donkey Chompers at February 23, 2019 12:01 PM (Tyii7)

113 What's this I hear about Amy Klobuchar using her hair comb to eat salad??

Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2019 12:01 PM (DJFLF)

114 81

...Next up: high-speed Zeppelin service.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Would that be a guy in the back who pokes a hole in the skin, so the zeppelin zooms around like a birthday balloon? Hard to control, though.

Posted by: pep at February 23, 2019 12:01 PM (T6t7i)

115 106 The lander

That is: MOON lander.

Posted by: Off the reservation at February 23, 2019 12:01 PM (vWMNq)

116 NASA needs some of that 8th Century Science Knowledge. Or 9th...

Posted by: Burger Chef at February 23, 2019 12:01 PM (RuIsu)

117
"Chevy is discontinuing the Volt."

Production won't be amped up.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 23, 2019 12:01 PM (RAdsH)

118
I lived in the Bay Area and skied in Tahoe, so I am intimately familiar with chains!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2019 11:58 AM

Yup. You're one of the one in one thousand. When you absolutely have to get somewhere in snow, even up a 45 degree incline with cars skidding left and right half way up the hill, they're the only way to fly. Quite the summabitch to put on though.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 23, 2019 12:02 PM (jYje5)

119 It's worth noting that Norway, often trotted out by the ignorant as a successful model of socialism, invests their welfare fund...here. And other capitalist countries. They put the funds in things like Apple, MSFT, and etc. Curious, that.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

____________

And made almost all of their wealth on offshore oil drilling. And now they are the ones screaming the loudest about climate change. After they made their trillions.

Whole country runs like every citizen is born with a trust fund. Just a very lazy mentality. As if that model works everywhere else.

Sure, have a small country with the population of Arizona with trillions in natural resources and just spread it around. Why can't that work everywhere?

Posted by: Blago at February 23, 2019 12:02 PM (UfkIY)

120 JEWS IN SPACE !!!

https://tinyurl.com/y54ueq5d

The lander, named Beresheet (meaning "in the beginning" in Hebrew), was built by the Israeli nonprofit organization SpaceIL, which began working on this mission in 2011 as a contestant in the Google Lunar X Prize.

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Islam takes a more pragmatic approach to rocketry.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2019 12:02 PM (+y/Ru)

121 114
81

...Next up: high-speed Led Zeppelin service.

Posted by: Off the reservation at February 23, 2019 12:02 PM (vWMNq)

122 Navybrat, makes sense.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 12:02 PM (PUmDY)

123 78 47: Many of the "depression" cases are situational and pills won't help anyway. GPs and ERs are pushed to ask about depression and then they must "treat" it. No pill will cure your financial ills, stop your SO from breaking up with you, etc. These are cases where time and family support help, not medications, but a harried GP has to screen for depression, just as now they are being pushed to document access to guns. The TJC, thanks
Posted by: CN at February 23, 2019 11:52 AM (U7k5w)

Yep.

A particularly useful approach, for those who are pondering whether medication is the answer or not, is ask yourself this question: Is my "depression" a result of something happening in my life (death of loved one, difficulties at work, home, school, etc), or has it seemed to come from nowhere?

If you have a good reason to be depressed, the meds aren't going to help. You need to fix THAT, and at best the meds might make it possible for you to get out of bed in the morning, but once you do, you're going to have to fix what's wrong, because otherwise, the meds are going to get in the way, by numbing you to the real pain, which is a consequence of real events, which will be fixed, if they can be, by real work. By you. Not some pill.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2019 12:03 PM (cY3LT)

124 106 JEWS IN SPACE !!!

https://tinyurl.com/y54ueq5d

The lander, named Beresheet (meaning "in the beginning" in Hebrew), was
built by the Israeli nonprofit organization SpaceIL, which began working
on this mission in 2011 as a contestant in the Google Lunar X Prize.

Posted by: Off the reservation at February 23, 2019 12:00 PM (vWMNq)

Yep! I watched the launch live Thursday night. As a commenter at Instapundit put it, "A privately built rocket just launched a privately built spacecraft to the Moon. This is the 21st Century I was promised."

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2019 12:04 PM (sdi6R)

125 Merced to Bakersfield is 2.5 hours by car. Less if they ever finish up widening 99 Highway (which they don't have money to finish).

Because there will be no real express trains, they will stop at least 3 to 4 times in route. That means that if each stop is 15 minutes, unless the train is traveling in excess of 140 MPH, travel time is just about equal.

Note, neither Bakersfield nor Merced have reasonable airports.. and they won't be near the train terminals.

Thus, at either end of the destination, you will either have to take a bus, or rent a car to get anywhere you really want to go.

Whole thing is stupid, and for the record? I was at my girlfriends in MERCED half an hour ago.

Posted by: Don Q at February 23, 2019 12:04 PM (NgKpN)

126 How can they love Norway and hate oil?

Posted by: Jean at February 23, 2019 12:04 PM (25Dt7)

127
Chevy is discontinuing the Volt.

The project wasn't well grounded.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 23, 2019 12:05 PM (TAmPV)

128 Customers didn't get a charge out of the Volt.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 23, 2019 12:05 PM (WlG0e)

129 A privately built rocket just launched a privately built spacecraft to the Moon. This is the 21st Century I was promised
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Delos D. Harriman smiles.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 23, 2019 12:06 PM (Hx3Yn)

130 Yup. You're one of the one in one thousand. When you absolutely have to get somewhere in snow, even up a 45 degree incline with cars skidding left and right half way up the hill, they're the only way to fly. Quite the summabitch to put on though.
Posted by: Newest Nic at February 23, 2019 12:02 PM (jYje5)

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I've been seeing ads for a snap on traction device/chain replacement. Pretty clever design, it sets itself within the first foot of movement. It only covers the outer edge of the tire, but that is apparently enough.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 23, 2019 12:06 PM (ffYR/)

131
Norway has a mostly homogenous population of a little over 5 million and
an assload of oil. It has fewer people than Long Island. Trying to
pretend one of these tiny Baltic countries is a model for a highly
diverse country of 320+ million is Bernie level stupid.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2019 11:54 AM (/tuJf)

I was talking to a musician from finland a few weeks ago. Talking about their system, and how great it is to pay 25% of their income for free health care, blah blah, and how they don't have homeless blah blah. I told him you got a population of 5 million, which is barely a state in the US, while we got around 330 million including 30 million illegals, and you know what else we got? The world's arsenal of freedom, and it don't come free. He didn't say much after that.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 23, 2019 12:06 PM (9Om/r)

132 Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2019 11:49 AM (V2Yro)

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This +1000.

The elite see themselves as lords and ladies, unfairly bereft of the power they deserve.

Collectivism is just an attempt to recreate serfdom. Russia had barely left serfdom behind, when it's intellectual class decided to depose the weak, decadent Czars who'd let it fail, and use Marxism to justify it's return.

It's always looked that way to me... the vanguard of the proleterariat was rebranded Russian state paternalism. The collective farms were rebranded blood and soil serfdom, and so on.

It's no surprise at all this shit sprang out of a traditional Russia trying and failing to lurch into modernity.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 23, 2019 12:07 PM (5aX2M)

133 120 Islam takes a more pragmatic approach to rocketry.

Brian of London, on youtube, explained the pragmatic side of *not* launching the lander from Israel. Israel would need to explain to Iran that this was *not* an attack. He figured that the mullahs would not be buying that one.

Posted by: Off the reservation at February 23, 2019 12:07 PM (vWMNq)

134 I understood that the CA space rail was delayed in part by environmentalists concerned about the impact it could have on the undocumented asteroid belt smelt.

Posted by: clutch cargo at February 23, 2019 12:08 PM (sLicW)

135 At least the Fins aren't as brainwashed as the dipshit Swedes. That country is pretty fucked.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 23, 2019 12:09 PM (WlG0e)

136 Congratulations comrades! Gov. Newsom has announced that High Speed Rail rations have been increased from 520 miles to 171 miles! All should rejoice in the benevolence of Comrade Newsom.

Posted by: Sac Bee---The Pravda Shall Set You Free at February 23, 2019 12:10 PM (RVcmP)

137 Yup. You're one of the one in one thousand. When you absolutely have to get somewhere in snow, even up a 45 degree incline with cars skidding left and right half way up the hill, they're the only way to fly. Quite the summabitch to put on though.
Posted by: Newest Nic at February 23, 2019 12:02 PM (jYje5)

Yeah, I have chained up my vehicles a few times in the past. If you simply must get through a foot of new-fallen snow they are great. Now that I own 4X4 vehicles, mostly, I just make sure I have good winter-rated tires, and leave the chains at home. If the roads are so bad I can't travel in 4-wheel drive, I ain't going. And most likely, the highways department will have closed the roads, anyway.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2019 12:10 PM (nPGq2)

138 JS, cold Blood. Now the die mist be shaken.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 12:10 PM (PUmDY)

139 There are a lot of segway tours of the downtown area where I live. A nice choice for vehicle with all the horse-drawn carriages, traffic and maze of little parks. But there's nothing they do that wouldn't be better accomplished by just walking. Only a bit faster, which isn't really a plus for a tour. In St. Augustine they do tours with smaller three wheeled roadsters that seem to get along well there.

Posted by: bananadream at February 23, 2019 12:11 PM (YR7aL)

140 The Cali train debacle reminds me of the "rail" project on Oahu. It was a catastrophe when I left four years ago and it's still pushing forward. Just a money pit with the promise of "we won't raise your taxes" to sorry but we have to raise your property and other taxes. And yet the same liberal lefties continue to get elected over and over. Best weather on the planet and we loved it but had to move for economical and political reasons.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at February 23, 2019 12:11 PM (+ldAm)

141 Norway has a mostly homogenous population of a little over 5 million and an assload of oil. It has fewer people than Long Island. Trying to pretend one of these tiny Baltic countries is a model for a highly diverse country of 320+ million is Bernie level stupid.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2019 11:54 AM (/tuJf)

Yup and every left wing socialist out there does exactly that
Posted by: Nevergiveup
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I note that 27% of their GDP is from oil/gas exports. Pretty sweet deal. Drive a pipe into the ground, and
up come bubbling Euros, at almost no cost.

That of course still isn't enough to cover the costs. Their marginal income tax rate, while not nightmarish, is still significant. But the real kicker is is the VAT, 25%.

An interesting thing to consider is the tax/GDP ratio. Norway? Tax collections are 42% of GDP. The U.S? 26%.

Which of those suggests incentive to develop and grow?

What is even more interesting is that the aforementioned (staggering, really) 25% of GDP in oil/gas exports isn't nearly enough to help very much, they still have to tax the hell out of everything.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2019 12:12 PM (/dN1M)

142 At least the Fins aren't as brainwashed as the dipshit Swedes. That country is pretty fucked.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 23, 2019 12:09 PM (WlG0e)

Yeah, the Finland dude even said that. He said he was 100% against the islam creep in europe, and said flat out sweden was toast.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 23, 2019 12:12 PM (9Om/r)

143 135
At least the Fins aren't as brainwashed as the dipshit Swedes.

Finland is just 20 years behind Sweden and the Finnish politicians are jealous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qh1KL-h6wg

The guy speaking at the beginning is the fiancee of the channel owner. They are anti-migrant and get harassed constantly.

Posted by: Off the reservation at February 23, 2019 12:13 PM (vWMNq)

144 The Cali train debacle reminds me of the "rail" project on Oahu. It was a catastrophe when I left four years ago and it's still pushing forward. Just a money pit with the promise of "we won't raise your taxes" to sorry but we have to raise your property and other taxes.
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See: 'Light rail', almost anywhere.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2019 12:13 PM (/dN1M)

145 >>> See: 'Light rail', almost anywhere.

We have a monorail.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDOI0cq6GZM

Posted by: Homer Simpson at February 23, 2019 12:15 PM (2AGwN)

146
High-speed canal barges. Built by Boss Palp Construction. With special labor savings!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 23, 2019 12:16 PM (RAdsH)

147 Let them eat empanadas.

It's cake, silly! I love cake. Upside down cake, layer cake, sponge cake, wedding cake...

Posted by: Ana Bizarro at February 23, 2019 12:16 PM (Tyii7)

148 >>I was talking to a musician from finland a few weeks ago. Talking about their system, and how great it is to pay 25% of their income for free health care, blah blah, and how they don't have homeless blah blah. I told him you got a population of 5 million, which is barely a state in the US, while we got around 330 million including 30 million illegals, and you know what else we got? The world's arsenal of freedom, and it don't come free. He didn't say much after that.

I used to do a fair amount of business in the region and it always amused me when these conversations came up. I remember one time when we were gassing up my customers Volvo, of course, in Stavanger and the price per gallon worked out to over $9 a gallon. This was the state owned gas station dispensing state owned gas.

Of course, he was right in the middle of giving me a lecture about free schools and health care enjoyed by Norwegian citizens and how stupid we Americans were for not doing the same. I just gave him a Golden Retriever 10 degree head tilt and let it go. Some of them will never get it.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2019 12:17 PM (/tuJf)

149 Posted by: Sac Bee---The Pravda Shall Set You Free at February 23, 2019 12:10 PM (RVcmP)
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The Bee, back in the mid-90s, was quite a good paper, with some of the best state-level political columnists I've read. I guess since then it's gone to shit, like so much else in my formerly beloved home state.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 23, 2019 12:17 PM (Hx3Yn)

150 Bernie Sanders combs his hair with a high speed zeppelin.

Posted by: Fritz at February 23, 2019 12:17 PM (wxZSX)

151 /* Practicality Rant On: Bicycle snowplow: I wonder where this guy lives or what sort of area he has to plow. I live in SE Michigan. I've got a lot of years of experience moving snow, and I would say the bike plow needs some serious validating where the snow is anything more than a couple of inches of light fluffy powder.

- Where I live we often get heavy wet snow that that my two stage snowblower can't throw it all that far. I think the front of that bicycle thing will want to slide sideways in a heavy wet snow.
- While it might work for a sidewalk, what about a driveway apron that's 25 feet across? As you push the snow sideways you push a larger and larger pile, maybe as much as a couple of feet with just a few inch snowfall. How much can this thing really push?
- Eventually the snow piles up on the sides of the driveway or sidewalk. If it does not melt between snowfalls, eventually you have to push the fresh snow and the old snowbank or the driveway gets more narrow. Many years ago I had a lawn tractor with a plow blade. I would sometimes have to ram the old snowbanks at full speed to get enough room alongside the driveway to push the fresh snow out of the way.

I ain't sayin' this guy is not inventive and I give him props for having the skills to build this. But I question it for anything but the best of conditions.
Practicality Rant Off*/

Posted by: George V at February 23, 2019 12:18 PM (LUHWu)

152 Chevy is discontinuing the Volt.

It's not sparking sales.

Posted by: sinalco at February 23, 2019 12:19 PM (yODqO)

153 Thank you for your dignity, Gavin.

Posted by: Ana Bizarro at February 23, 2019 12:19 PM (Tyii7)

154 140 The Cali train debacle reminds me of the "rail" project on Oahu.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at February 23, 2019 12:11

I was on Oahu from '12-'16... I had sort of mixed-ish feelings on that stupid train. One one hand, it seemed like if there was ever a good case for one it was there. Very little real estate left to build roads, traffic mostly going one way in am, one way in pm, volume increasing annually....

OTOH, of course it would be a disaster. Buying 100 modern buses (USB charging ports, or whatever people would like) for the commuters from the windward side to Honolulu would cost less and reduce traffic during rush hour. They could even run it for free for a few years and still cost less than the stupid rail.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at February 23, 2019 12:19 PM (qHJDl)

155 Thanks G-D Norway and Sweden and their Military saved us from the Japs and the Nazis. G-D bless Socialism

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2019 12:19 PM (bim/x)

156 Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2019 11:54 AM (/tuJf)

Norway is not a Baltic country; it has no coastline on the Baltic Sea. Sweden and Finland, and Germany and Poland do, too, but they are also not "Baltic countries". Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania are the Baltic Countries. It doesn't have to make sense, it's by definition.

The rest of your post is 100% right!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2019 12:00 PM (nPGq2)

So it's like when you ask someone who is not from Mexico "are you Mexican?"

Pisses them off to no end.

Which is the BEST reason to keep doing it.

Next time I meet a Norwallian (which might be the first time), I'll say something like "oh how nice! I just love the Baltics!"

Posted by: BurtTC at February 23, 2019 12:19 PM (cY3LT)

157 You may be Saturday's Child all grown.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 12:19 PM (PUmDY)

158 The head of the Nasa has said Barack Obama told him to make "reaching
out to the Muslim world" one of the space agency's top priorities.

******

Lesson 1. The re-entry vehicle. To MIRV or not to MIRV.
We will proceed with a little demonstration.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2019 12:19 PM (0tfLf)

159 I've been seeing ads for a snap on traction device/chain replacement. Pretty clever design, it sets itself within the first foot of movement. It only covers the outer edge of the tire, but that is apparently enough.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 23, 2019 12:06 PM (ffYR/)

Such a device might get you unstuck, where the stuck condition is merely due to a lack of traction, and not being high-centered on a snowdrift, but that's all they are good for. I don't think it's merely accidental that the traditional steel ladder-style tire chains have been sold for nearly a century, and the cable chains for about half of that.

You read the old automotive magazines, and you will find hundreds of articles (and ads) for weird and wonderful snow traction devices that worked...until they didn't. You could even buy remote-controlled sanders to strew sand under your tires.

Pro tip: stuck on ice, spinning tires? Pour a little household bleach on the drive tires. It both melts the ice a little, and softens the rubber compound, making it sticky. Works.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2019 12:20 PM (nPGq2)

160 Solar powered dildos.

*call Starkist in the morning*

Posted by: Billy Blaze at February 23, 2019 12:21 PM (9oE3U)

161 Addendum: rail is the best (for gov't types) because you can't move a train station. Therefore there are maximum opportunities for graft -- the real estate near the train station becomes super valuable.

Bus stop? A sawz-all and a post hole digger and you can move a bus stop.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at February 23, 2019 12:21 PM (qHJDl)

162 I'd like a rocket ride to Krispy Kreme.

Posted by: Ana Bizarro at February 23, 2019 12:22 PM (Tyii7)

163 Pro tip: stuck on ice, spinning tires? Pour a little
household bleach on the drive tires. It both melts the ice a little,
and softens the rubber compound, making it sticky. Works.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2019 12:20 PM (nPGq2)

Don't get me started.

Posted by: Jussie at February 23, 2019 12:22 PM (9oE3U)

164 I'd like a rocket ride to Krispy Kreme.
Posted by: Ana Bizarro at February 23, 2019 12:22 PM (Tyii7)

You already have it in you. Just fart and light a match.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2019 12:23 PM (bim/x)

165 I was lectured once by a Swede on the iniquities of the American prison system, and how in Sweden convicts are treated as human beings and come out after 8-10 years as productive, well-adjusted people, etc.

I suggested that Sweden should once again show itself a moral and exemplary powerhouse by taking in 20,000 of America's most hardened murderer-rapists. Put them through the kind and caring Swedish penal system, and after a few years they could join Swedish society as productive citizens. Find a nice Swedish girl...

"BBBut Sweden is a small country.....uh...."

Posted by: Mikloswith a hypothetical at February 23, 2019 12:23 PM (zCyNd)

166 >>You may be Saturday's Child all grown.

I went to see a local Dead cover band last night. They played a ripping version of Althea.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2019 12:23 PM (/tuJf)

167 Bernie Sanders combs his hair with a high speed zeppelin.

Posted by: Fritz at February 23, 2019 12:17 PM (wxZSX)

Looks more like he combs his hair with a firecracker.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 23, 2019 12:23 PM (9Om/r)

168 Judge to climb Statue of Liberty before sentencing protester...

'Better appreciate risks created by defendant'...

-
Good thing it wasn't a rape trial.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2019 12:23 PM (+y/Ru)

169 You already have it in you. Just fart and light a match.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2019 12:23 PM (bim/x)

Huh.
*starts drawing plans for a self lighting fart device for cows*

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'looking for my spark of divinity in my hippocampus' at February 23, 2019 12:24 PM (9oE3U)

170 Norway is not a Baltic country; it has no coastline on the Baltic Sea. Sweden and Finland, and Germany and Poland do, too, but they are also not "Baltic countries". Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania are the Baltic Countries.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

**********

I heard that Pluto was going to be reclassified as a Baltic Country.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2019 12:24 PM (m45I2)

171 The Cali train debacle reminds me of the "rail" project on Oahu. It was a catastrophe when I left four years ago and it's still pushing forward. Just a money pit with the promise of "we won't raise your taxes" to sorry but we have to raise your property and other taxes.
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See: 'Light rail', almost anywhere.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2019 12:13 PM (/dN1M)

And Honolulu is ideally suited for rail as it is highly linear (following the shoreline). Like most places, they should have left the train in place that they already had as well as the other light rails.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 23, 2019 12:25 PM (1g7ch)

172 There was a comedy series on Netflix that poked fun at Norwegian socialists, it was spot on, iirc.
"Lillehammer"

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 23, 2019 12:26 PM (w7KSn)

173 ."BBBut Sweden is a small country.....uh...."

Posted by: Mikloswith a hypothetical at February 23, 2019 12:23 PM (zCyNd)

Perfect.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'looking for my spark of divinity in my hippocampus' at February 23, 2019 12:26 PM (9oE3U)

174 Why doesn't someone just shoot Maduro?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2019 12:26 PM (bim/x)

175 I heard that Pluto was going to be reclassified as a Baltic Country.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2019 12:24 PM (m45I2)

Have to change it to Plutovia.

Posted by: Miklos, liking the consistency at February 23, 2019 12:26 PM (zCyNd)

176 It's time to start drinking our own sewage. LOS ANGELES CITY OFFICIALS

http://tinyurl.com/yyyb7lox

Posted by: HA at February 23, 2019 12:26 PM (MAstk)

177 You know who hates Norway? The NY Jets because of the Heidi Game.

Am I dating myself?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2019 12:27 PM (bim/x)

178 I'll settle for nothing less than speed of light rail.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2019 12:27 PM (+y/Ru)

179 Looking forward to getting my ass sued off. It's a start.

Posted by: Ana Bizarro at February 23, 2019 12:27 PM (Tyii7)

180 >>> Pro tip: stuck on ice, spinning tires? Pour a little household bleach on the drive tires. It both melts the ice a little, and softens the rubber compound, making it sticky. Works.

I carry a shovel and a bag of cat litter. It got me out of spot a couple weeks back.

Posted by: fluffy at February 23, 2019 12:27 PM (2AGwN)

181 It's time to start drinking our own sewage. LOS ANGELES CITY OFFICIALS

Raw water

Posted by: Miklos, filtering with water through a fremantation process, to be on the safe side at February 23, 2019 12:28 PM (zCyNd)

182 Looking forward to getting my ass sued off. It's a start.
Posted by: Ana Bizarro at February 23, 2019 12:27 PM (Tyii7)
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"Sued" is just one letter away from "suet".

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 23, 2019 12:28 PM (Hx3Yn)

183 Off, evil genius sock!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 23, 2019 12:28 PM (9ly5p)

184 Them electric scooters are retarded. They have them all over Jack London Square in Alameda. People leave them for a minute only to have some vagrant take off with it. They're parked outside the local restaurants, where the battery gets low and emits a loud beep, real annoying for the customers eating out on the terraces. Watched a drunk pissed off guy shove one that was beeping in between some railing and into the harbor, funny as hell as people clapped. On a second thought, I like the entertainment the scooters provide especially when someone gets mowed down by one on accident.

Posted by: JROD at February 23, 2019 12:29 PM (MzcF4)

185 Old Dominion University had a failed PRT rail running right above the middle of campus It's comical. At least the one at WVU works, except when there's weather or beavers (which happens a lot).

Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2019 12:29 PM (nRWPy)

186 Am I dating myself?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2019 12:27 PM (bim/x)

Marrying yourself might-"might"-be bigamy.

Posted by: Miklos, not a lawyer in your state/province at February 23, 2019 12:29 PM (zCyNd)

187 >>Am I dating myself?

You can save a lot of money that way.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2019 12:29 PM (/tuJf)

188 It both melts the ice a little, and softens the rubber compound, making it sticky. Works.

*********

I thought what made ice slippery was the thin layer of water that develops between the object and the ice. Seems like melting the ice "a little" would create a slippery interface. Maybe it's mostly the softening of the rubber part that makes for better traction.

Just pondering.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2019 12:30 PM (m45I2)

189 >>> You know who hates Norway? The NY Jets because of the Heidi Game.

Swiss.

Posted by: fluffy at February 23, 2019 12:30 PM (2AGwN)

190 We are bombarded in CA with TV commercials urging us to conserve natural gas. Shorter showers, etc. Put on that hair shirt and suffer, proles! Drives me nuts! Are they denying the entire energy boom??

Posted by: PJ at February 23, 2019 12:30 PM (qlTN9)

191 177
You know who hates Norway? The NY Jets because of the Heidi Game.

Am I dating myself?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2019 12:27 PM (bim/x)

haven't eaten fish since.

Posted by: Broadway Joe at February 23, 2019 12:30 PM (9oE3U)

192
Pro tip: stuck on ice, spinning tires? Pour a little household bleach on the drive tires. It both melts the ice a little, and softens the rubber compound, making it sticky. Works.

Poor Jussie was out late at night with a rope and some bleach just trying to help stranded motorist.Then the cops set him up.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 23, 2019 12:30 PM (TAmPV)

193 At least the one at WVU works, except when there's weather or beavers (which happens a lot).
-----
What about weather beavers? I really hate those.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 23, 2019 12:31 PM (Hx3Yn)

194 Mobility scooters for all!

Posted by: Senior Democrats at February 23, 2019 12:33 PM (zCyNd)

195 Pneumatic tube travel > High Speed rail

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 23, 2019 12:33 PM (2DOZq)

196 Louisville is going to dash my heart again.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 12:34 PM (PUmDY)

197 Do the opposite of what Obama recommended and lower the pressure on your tires to get more traction.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 23, 2019 12:35 PM (2DOZq)

198 You know who hates Norway? The NY Jets because of the Heidi Game.

*********

Wait. I thought Heidi was set in the Swiss Alps. What's Norway got to do with it?

Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2019 12:36 PM (m45I2)

199 yes, pushing a lot of people onto the roads and crowded intersections can make for congestion. And while cars can handle a 5 mph bump with little or no damage, it can permanently disable a biker that was demanding his full share of the lane, doing 12 mph.

In Lake Vista, part of New Orleans where I lived for many years, they had parkways with sidewalks between all the houses, with roads on the other side. It was really nice, all utilities underground, between city park and the lake. But pushing bikes into crowded downtown areas is a whole 'nuther thang.

If I ever subdivided my little farm into one to five acre plots, I'd try to do something like that, with my own HOA where I was dictator, allowing only little turf safe golf carts along my trails. Then a food coop with our own dairy and beef, and flowers and food. A perfect world ... deplorables only.

But trying to do any such dreamy thing to a big crowded city would start with a dictator promising Utopia, and end in disaster. Making energy too expensive for the commoner is a bad way to "make life better", and indeed is really just a sneaky means of control. Too bad the commies co-opted the environmental movement. They ruin everything.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 23, 2019 12:36 PM (Cus5s)

200 Am I dating myself?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2019 12:27 PM (bim/x)

*******
I watched that game. My dad got mad.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2019 12:36 PM (0tfLf)

201 I want one of those gyro copters from The Road Warrior for my personal transportation.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 23, 2019 12:37 PM (2DOZq)

202 I had business in Norway and went a few times and knew some Norwegians.

They really HATE American capitalism yet can't get enough of our culture. All of them sound like Michael Moore.

beautiful country, but completely brainwashed.

Posted by: Blago at February 23, 2019 12:37 PM (UfkIY)

203 Speaking of Norway:

NOR WAY, DUDE!! - a limerick

I think that I now can report it
In Oslo the cuisine is quite Nordic
But it sure isn't cheap
Along the coasts it's so steep
That most people just can't a-fjord it!

Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2019 12:38 PM (m45I2)

204 You know who hates Norway? The NY Jets because of the Heidi Game.

Swiss.
Posted by: fluffy at February 23, 2019 12:30 PM (2AGwN)

what ever

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2019 12:38 PM (bim/x)

205 >>Wait. I thought Heidi was set in the Swiss Alps. What's Norway got to do with it?

He's rolling.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2019 12:38 PM (/tuJf)

206 190 We are bombarded in CA with TV commercials urging us to conserve natural gas. Shorter showers, etc. Put on that hair shirt and suffer, proles! Drives me nuts! Are they denying the entire energy boom??

It's California, what do you expect?

The core purpose of the train was to urbanize the comparatively conservative Central Valley and get everyone hooked on sweet, sweet government jobs and money. That's really all.

And I'll say it again - the sweet spot for rail as seen everywhere in the world including the US where it works is up to about 200 miles. This is true all over Europe, and everywhere there's actual airports. No one was ever going to ride the thing SF-LA unless they had baggage the airlines couldn't accommodate.

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2019 12:38 PM (8erNz)

207 The Amy Klobuchar ate salad with a comb story has been reported by the NYT.
One of her aides forgot to bring Amy's special fork to a flight she was taking, so Amy, unfazed, promptly dug into her purse, removed her hair comb and ate the salad with that implement.
When finished, she directed the staffer to clean the comb.
Twitter's take on this bizarre tale:

https://tinyurl.com/y3gz3yow

Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2019 12:38 PM (DJFLF)

208 I'm stocking up on Ho Hos. My mama didn't raise no fool.

Posted by: Ana Bizarro at February 23, 2019 12:38 PM (Tyii7)

209 Wait. I thought Heidi was set in the Swiss Alps. What's Norway got to do with it?
Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2019 12:36 PM (m45I2)

Ah they are all nazis

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2019 12:38 PM (bim/x)

210 Was it Norway who set the fine on speeding tickets based on your net worth?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 23, 2019 12:39 PM (2DOZq)

211 That most people just can't a-fjord it!
Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2019 12:38 PM (m45I2)=

*groan*

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2019 12:39 PM (8erNz)

212 210 Was it Norway who set the fine on speeding tickets based on your net worth?

They also have something like a 100% sales tax on cars.

In other words, fundamentally, they is the sux.

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2019 12:40 PM (8erNz)

213 beautiful country, but completely brainwashed.

Posted by: Blago at February 23, 2019 12:37 PM (UfkIY)

Big-time Jew-haters too....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2019 12:40 PM (wYseH)

214 Bleach's freezing temp is below water, so I guess it melts ice. I once washed my pebbled patio with bleach and the next day it snowed and it didn't stick on the area I bleached. I've thought about pretreating my front steps with bleach before an ice storm, it seems to hold until washed off by rain, etc.

Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2019 12:41 PM (nRWPy)

215
If the CA HSR project was serious about a Frisco-LA high speed link, they would have planned the route along the I5 corridor. It already has the right-of-way, it's damned near desolate for it's entire length, and since the freeway is already built, the environmental impact is nil.

The problem is, that the HSR was never meant to be a Frisco-LA link, it was designed as a transportation subsidy for Frisco yuppies to be able to move into the Valley where they can actually buy a big house for less than it would cost to buy a closet-sized condo in the city.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 23, 2019 12:41 PM (G72s7)

216 The other Norwegian comedy show I love is "Norsemen".
Think Vikings in a PC culture.

And of course, Slow TV.
Great stuff.

I used to work in Norway for a few years long ago.
It was great fun, actually.
Many different herrings, IYKWIM.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 23, 2019 12:41 PM (w7KSn)

217 214 Bleach's freezing temp is below water, so I guess it melts ice. I once washed my pebbled patio with bleach and the next day it snowed and it didn't stick on the area I bleached. I've thought about pretreating my front steps with bleach before an ice storm, it seems to hold until washed off by rain, etc.

I wonder what'd happen if you Rain-Xed your driveway.

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2019 12:41 PM (8erNz)

218 Was it Norway who set the fine on speeding tickets based on your net worth?
Posted by: Can't resist temptation

__________

I believe that was Finland. Nokia executive got like $150,00 speeding ticket.

I got in an argument with a liberal friend of mine. He totally supported it.

I made the point that if we are judging based on a person's value, should a rich person serve less prison time since he's worth more.

Posted by: Blago at February 23, 2019 12:41 PM (UfkIY)

219 Bleach is useful.

Posted by: Jussie at February 23, 2019 12:42 PM (Tyii7)

220 Kallisto, no wat

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 12:42 PM (PUmDY)

221 To Norway, Home of Giants:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acNnq8pwbC4

Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 23, 2019 12:42 PM (Hx3Yn)

222 Trower Alethea

https://youtu.be/7392dYYo7-o

Posted by: DaveA at February 23, 2019 12:43 PM (FhXTo)

223 Why doesn't someone just shoot Maduro?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2019 12:26 PM (bim/x)

Maybe because there's no indication that his replacement would be any better, and very likely would be worse? He has 2000 "Generals" in his army.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2019 12:43 PM (nPGq2)

224 Bah, all those damn lederhosers look the same.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2019 12:43 PM (m45I2)

225 Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 12:42 PM (PUmDY)
"mommie Dearest" hasn't denied it!

I wonder who the DNC-media complex wants to be the 2020 contender? Because it sure ain't Klobuchar and Warren, the way they are sliming those two in the press.

Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2019 12:43 PM (DJFLF)

226 Way

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 12:43 PM (PUmDY)

227

Finally, a thread on Motility.

My bowels, let me tell you about them...

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 23, 2019 12:44 PM (I94sX)

228 >>They really HATE American capitalism yet can't get enough of our culture. All of them sound like Michael Moore.

Haliburton does a lot of bidness in Norway. Go figure.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2019 12:44 PM (/tuJf)

229 beautiful country, but completely brainwashed.

Posted by: Blago at February 23, 2019 12:37 PM (UfkIY)

Big-time Jew-haters too....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

___________

A lot of them went along with the Nazis in WW2.

Posted by: Blago at February 23, 2019 12:44 PM (UfkIY)

230 The Amy Klobuchar ate salad with a comb story has been reported by the NYT.
One of her aides forgot to bring Amy's special fork to a flight she was taking, so Amy, unfazed, promptly dug into her purse, removed her hair comb and ate the salad with that implement.
When finished, she directed the staffer to clean the comb.
Twitter's take on this bizarre tale:

https://tinyurl.com/y3gz3yow
Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2019 12:38 PM (DJFLF)

So rather than ask the flight attendant or get one from an eatery (if she hadn't boarded yet), she decides to use her comb because she knows it'll embarrass her staffer. What a vindictive biotch.

Posted by: Mainah at February 23, 2019 12:44 PM (THfbA)

231 My bowels, let me tell you about them...
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 23, 2019 12:44 PM (I94sX)
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Please don't.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 23, 2019 12:45 PM (Hx3Yn)

232 I used to work in Norway for a few years long ago.
It was great fun, actually.
Many different herrings...

*****

That many choices would probably be confusing. I'd probably need a herring aide.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2019 12:45 PM (m45I2)

233 Finally, a thread on Motility.

My bowels, let me tell you about them...
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 23, 2019 12:44 PM

Ha, you funny, GI.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 23, 2019 12:45 PM (9ly5p)

234 Did you see the veep rumors about her?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 12:45 PM (PUmDY)

235 I thought it was the swedes who collaborated with the nazis...
But, I wasn't there at that time.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 23, 2019 12:46 PM (w7KSn)

236 So rather than ask the flight attendant or get one
from an eatery (if she hadn't boarded yet), she decides to use her comb
because she knows it'll embarrass her staffer. What a vindictive
biotch.

Posted by: Mainah at February 23, 2019 12:44 PM (THfbA)
And lacking in basic hygiene practices as well.

Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2019 12:47 PM (DJFLF)

237 You know who hates Norway? The NY Jets because of the Heidi Game.

You're thinking Pippi Longstocking.

Posted by: Miklos, randomly guessing at February 23, 2019 12:47 PM (zCyNd)

238

Hoveround Takes Me Where I Want To Go

https://youtu.be/_hjoh_NrDJY

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2019 12:48 PM (aKsyK)

239 234
Did you see the veep rumors about her?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 12:45 PM (PUmDY)
No, if anyone believes she can run on a Presidential ticket, they be smoking some potent wacky weed. She is officially "box office poison" now.
I think that an attempt is being made to convince Michelle to run for president, due to her high poll numbers.

Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2019 12:49 PM (DJFLF)

240 If the CA HSR project was serious about a Frisco-LA high speed link, they would have planned the route along the I5 corridor. It already has the right-of-way, it's damned near desolate for it's entire length, and since the freeway is already built, the environmental impact is nil.

But no one is going to ride it SF-LA, very few at least. Even as a straight shot you have several problems, the Central Valley is in fact a valley and getting out to the coast means you either bore out a 40-mile tunnel somewhere between Salinas and Livermore or you go up, over, and around through one of the few significant passes which slows everything down.

You have the same issue at the south end, a train isn't gonna climb the Grapevine so you either go over slowly, go east through the desert, or have one of those through-the-Alps kind of tunnel projects that costs ten billion in Italy and ten times that here.

Back in the day Dianne Feinstein and Quentin Kopp were the yin-and-yang of SF governance, she was the center-left and he was the center-right and you had cranks and crackpots all around them. We know what happened to Feinstein. Kopp got himself a sinecure as a judge in San Mateo County, which was all well and good, but then he got sold the HSR and climbed on board a little too thoroughly, and now he's gonna have that asterisk on his reputation.

The problem is, that the HSR was never meant to be a Frisco-LA link, it was designed as a transportation subsidy for Frisco yuppies to be able to move into the Valley where they can actually buy a big house for less than it would cost to buy a closet-sized condo in the city.

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2019 12:49 PM (8erNz)

241 CNN is in the Kamala and the Technicolor Dream Coat tank. So far at least.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 12:49 PM (PUmDY)

242
You know who hates Norway? The NY Jets because of the Heidi Game.
You're thinking Pippi Longstocking.

Posted by: Miklos, randomly guessing at February 23, 2019 12:47 PM (zCyNd)

Why does Pippi hate the Hedi Game?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 23, 2019 12:49 PM (TAmPV)

243 Of course all of these plans are based on the global warming hoax, because they need a reason rather than a reason for the need.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 23, 2019 12:50 PM (r+sAi)

244 I thought it was the swedes who collaborated with the nazis...
But, I wasn't there at that time.
Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 23, 2019 12:46 PM (w7KSn)

The Nazis invaded Norway, and set up a puppet government led by Vidkun Quisling (hence the term "Quisling" for traitor). The Norwegians at least had the grace to hang him after the war.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2019 12:51 PM (nPGq2)

245 Hoveround Takes Me Where I Want To Go

Phalanxes of scooterized elders on opioids

Scary, kids!

Posted by: Count Miklos at February 23, 2019 12:51 PM (zCyNd)

246 I can't tell you how many people have come up to me and said, "Life would be so much better if we only had a pretty fast way to get from Merced to Bakersfield." This is a dream come true.

Posted by: Bob at February 23, 2019 12:51 PM (fVGlW)

247 That many choices would probably be confusing. I'd probably need a herring aide.
Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2019 12:45 PM (m45I2)

Mommy! Muldoon is off his meds again!

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2019 12:51 PM (8erNz)

248 My bowels, let me tell you about them...

Go on...

Posted by: Ana Bizarro at February 23, 2019 12:51 PM (Tyii7)

249 The CA Air Resources Board is coming up with a Clean Miles Standard. I listened in to their webinar on this yesterday and to achieve what they want to achieve, we will need to be all driving electric cars or priuses or donkey carts.

Posted by: IC at February 23, 2019 12:51 PM (LJUs+)

250 Norway does have the largest seed depository vault in the world IIRC. Don't know if still the case. I know the USA has multiple vaults.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 23, 2019 12:52 PM (2DOZq)

251 246 I can't tell you how many people have come up to me and said, "Life would be so much better if we only had a pretty fast way to get from Merced to Bakersfield." This is a dream come true.

I can't tell you how many Democrats have come up to me and said "California elections would be so much better if we only had a giant tax-funded project to kill every business between Merced and Bakersfield and have everyone there working for the state instead". This is a dream come true.

FIFY.

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2019 12:52 PM (8erNz)

252 Bernie Sanders combs his hair with a high speed zeppelin.
Posted by: Fritz
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Crossed-memes Winner.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2019 12:53 PM (2kj6M)

253 250 Norway does have the largest seed depository vault in the world IIRC.

Uh...

Posted by: Lindsay Lohan at February 23, 2019 12:53 PM (8erNz)

254 Think Sweden played scared and enjoyed its trade with Nazi Germany, but turned on the krauts the moment the final score was pretty certain - fall of 1943? Something like that.

Scooters. Stipulated: about 90% of all laws and regulations regarding small consumer matters (at least in CA) could probably be ended this afternoon, with ZERO net negative impact on anyone. Ditto for firearms, many other things, obviously.

But at least in high pedestrian traffic tourist areas, there ought to be at least *speed limits* built into the damn things. Cannot believe the data don't already show measurable effect of scooter accidents. It's not just inexperience, lack of coordination, judgement, etc (though those are factors) - the things are just capable of significant speeds ..... and like skateboards cannot stop quickly, without the rider continuing his motion until coming to rest (injured, in a heap).

Already avoiding certain places because of them. Idiots go flying past standing/meandering pedestrians (and little kids) at 20 MPH. It's ridiculous.

Tragically, with a post-American populace (common sense and freedom are no longer much in play), my trade of 90% of onerous stupid regs for one intelligent reg will not happen.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2019 12:53 PM (QDnY+)

255 The CA Air Resources Board is coming up with a Clean Miles Standard. I listened in to their webinar on this yesterday and to achieve what they want to achieve, we will need to be all driving electric cars or priuses or donkey carts.
Posted by: IC at February 23, 2019 12:51 PM (LJUs+)

Sorry. No can do. Donkeys fart.

Posted by: CA Air Resources Board at February 23, 2019 12:53 PM (aS1PU)

256 Shhhh the Mets game is starting.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 23, 2019 12:54 PM (/tuJf)

257 Crossed-memes Winner.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2019 12:53 PM (2kj6M)

Being a Winner ain't all it's cracked up to be.

Posted by: Reality Winner at February 23, 2019 12:54 PM (zCyNd)

258 One of my bucket list items is NOT to ride a 200mph elevated train on the San Andres fault.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 23, 2019 12:54 PM (r+sAi)

259 I do like the precedent of Trump demanding the money back for failing to follow through on its promised use. They took billions of taxpayer dollars to do something and just decided to stop doing it. Well give the money back then, chumps.

Never should have been given the money in the first place.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2019 12:54 PM (39g3+)

260 Why doesn't someone just shoot Maduro?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2019 12:26 PM (bim/x)

Maybe because there's no indication that his replacement would be any better, and very likely would be worse? He has 2000 "Generals" in his army.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2019 12:43 PM (nPGq2)

That's is why we have more than one bullet

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2019 12:54 PM (bim/x)

261 Blah II, sounds very pretentious.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 12:55 PM (PUmDY)

262 55---There was a dumb phuch on a Fox panel this week trying to blame the failures of Socialism on neighboring Capitalism. It seems the existence of Capitalism lures the sheep away, aka True Socialism has never been tried, yada, yada.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 23, 2019 11:45 AM (ffYR/)
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Yep.
Classic Marxist-Leninist doctrine.
It's a clever way (1) to explain the manifest failure of commies to achieve utopia and (2) to justify imperialism/globalism.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 23, 2019 12:56 PM (Rxduq)

263 Another side effect of the war on cheap energy the Left would find very useful is reduced mobility for the American people. They HATE it when the serfs move around too much.

This. A local "transportation advocate" sent out a Tweet a few days ago denouncing electric cars - because electric cars would allow people to continue to live in icky auto-dependent suburbs. They hate suburban park-and-rides at mass transit stops for the same reason - the point is to kill single-family housing, and to make all serfs live in a high-rise apartment a quarter-mile from a mass transit stop.

Posted by: The ARC of History at February 23, 2019 12:56 PM (I2/tG)

264 Norway does have the largest seed depository vault in the world IIRC. Don't know if still the case. I know the USA has multiple vaults.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 23, 2019 12:52 PM (2DOZq)
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It's on an island off Nordkapp, I believe.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 23, 2019 12:57 PM (Hx3Yn)

265 /sock

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 23, 2019 12:57 PM (aS1PU)

266 258 One of my bucket list items is NOT to ride a 200mph elevated train on the San Andres fault.

The best way to traverse an intersection is at the highest speed possible, as that way you're exposed for the least period of time.

Posted by: Sir H.O.D Segrave at February 23, 2019 12:57 PM (8erNz)

267 Even DT is Jr.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 12:57 PM (PUmDY)

268 I do like the precedent of Trump demanding the money back for failing to follow through on its promised use. They took billions of taxpayer dollars to do something and just decided to stop doing it. Well give the money back then, chumps.

The State of Oregon took $300 million from the Feds to build an Obamacare website, which was a complete failure - they finally scrapped it, and built something much similar. (Think about spending $300 million on a website.)

It was noted at the time that the Feds could technically demand the $300 million back - I have no idea why the Trump Administration hasn't done so.

Posted by: The ARC of History at February 23, 2019 12:59 PM (I2/tG)

269 That's is why we have more than one bullet
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2019 12:54 PM (bim/x)

2001: A Bullet Odyssey?

I'd be all for shooting him, if it would lead to the end of Chavism there. But to do it right, I fear you would have to invade in force, seize control, and then put every damned Chavista to the wall, right down to the neighborhood punks.

And then run the country as a protectorate for at least a generation to reeducate the people on the rights and responsibilities of free people.

Kind of like Pinochet did, come to think of it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2019 01:00 PM (nPGq2)

270 Well, kids, here we go (maybe):

A scientist working for the U.S. Navy has filed for a patent on a room-temperature superconductor, representing a potential paradigm shift in energy transmission and computer systems.

Salvatore Cezar Pais is listed as the inventor on the Navy's patent application made public by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office on Thursday.

Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2019-02-navy-patent-room-temperature-superconductor.html#jCp

Posted by: MiklosTech Watch at February 23, 2019 01:00 PM (zCyNd)

271 This. A local "transportation advocate" sent out a Tweet a few days ago denouncing electric cars - because electric cars would allow people to continue to live in icky auto-dependent suburbs. They hate suburban park-and-rides at mass transit stops for the same reason - the point is to kill single-family housing, and to make all serfs live in a high-rise apartment a quarter-mile from a mass transit stop.

Yeah, that's a good summation.

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2019 01:00 PM (8erNz)

272 HIGH. SPEED. RAIL. is the Jussie Smollett of transportation.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 23, 2019 01:00 PM (AQVpU)

273 They hate suburban park-and-rides at mass transit stops for the same reason - the point is to kill single-family housing, and to make all serfs live in a high-rise apartment a quarter-mile from a mass transit stop.
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When I was the cruel dictator of SimCity, I did that - built much of the city in blocks of residential/commercial/industrial so everyone would live where they worked.

Population happiness went through the floor.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 23, 2019 01:01 PM (Hx3Yn)

274
Squaw now wantum wampum for Injuns.

2020 presidential hopeful Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., expanded on an already-radical proposal on Friday, telling reporters that Native Americans should be "part of the conversation" on reparations for African-Americans -- a move that threatens to bring back her own history with Native Americans.

She ought to give a real Injun all the money she made passing herself off as a squaw

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2019 01:01 PM (SiINZ)

275 Let's Play Ball

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2019 01:01 PM (bim/x)

276 Turn Around Joe

Here's my story it's sad but true
It's about a guy that I once knew
He made a joke then turned around
With ev'ry nutter in this town

Hayp hayp
Bum da hady hady
Hayp hayp
Bum da hady hady
Hayp hayp
Bum da hady hady

Joe Biden
@JoeBiden
Foreign election interference is not only a serious threat to our democratic institutions, it's a threat to our national security. Russia and other authoritarian regimes are actively seeking to try to change outcomes of our democratic elections, and we can't allow that to happen.

Hey Joe! The Cold War called. They want their foreign policy back.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2019 01:03 PM (+y/Ru)

277 2020 presidential hopeful Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., expanded on an already-radical proposal on Friday, telling reporters that Native Americans should be "part of the conversation" on reparations for African-Americans -- a move that threatens to bring back her own history with Native Americans.

My earliest family history in the US dates to WWI, and that or later is probably true of 2/3 of the country at this point.

Screw her. Possession is nine points of the law. If you can't defend it you can't keep it. We're seeing that now.

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2019 01:03 PM (8erNz)

278 I loved sim city original way back in time. I understand its all spaceships and such now I guess.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 23, 2019 01:04 PM (r+sAi)

279 And then run the country as a protectorate for at least a generation to reeducate the people on the rights and responsibilities of free people.
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We did that with Haiti from 1919 until the FDR administration got bored with it and bailed. The country went right back to shit as soon as we left.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 23, 2019 01:04 PM (Hx3Yn)

280 Another side effect of the war on cheap energy the Left would find very useful is reduced mobility for the American people. They HATE it when the serfs move around too much.

As said previously, controlling mobility is essential to maintaining a command economy, which of course is the Reds' goal. If goods, services, and people can move freely, you can forget about fixing prices, assigning people work through labor exchanges, etc.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 23, 2019 01:04 PM (AQVpU)

281 Yeah, that's a good summation.

They're quite upfront about it. "Victoria Fierce", a Communist transgender "housing activist" who lives in Oakland (don't you love California) wrote an article in the East Bay Express called:

Opinion: Why Building Housing Near Mass Transit Promotes Collectivism
It will break us from the chains of capitalistic individualism and the destructive car-centric lifestyle.

It is like the Green New Deal, which has less to do with energy policy than it does with completely remaking society.

Posted by: The ARC of History at February 23, 2019 01:04 PM (I2/tG)

282 So, what was the three-hour LA to San Francisco trip supposed to cost? And I thought it was supposed to be a commuter train? WTF wants a six-hour daily commute?

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Boofing Chapter at February 23, 2019 01:04 PM (NjJUT)

283 "Of course all of these plans are based on the global warming hoax, because they need a reason rather than a reason for the need." Posted by: Guy Mohawk

right, they can't give up their AGW farce, because it is tied directly to their commie dreams of confiscation and control.

Not to mention the tie to their own ego, and their cognitive dissonance only grows stronger when they're confronted with real science. They need the "climate denier" label to comfort their inflated ego, which cannot accept their cult bubble being burst.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 23, 2019 01:04 PM (Cus5s)

284 It was noted at the time that the Feds could technically demand the $300 million back - I have no idea why the Trump Administration hasn't done so.

Too long ago now. Shouldn't take more than 300 dollars to build a website, and that includes any photography or images you buy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2019 01:06 PM (39g3+)

285 I can't tell you how many people have come up to me and said, "Life would be so much better if we only had a pretty fast way to get from Merced to Bakersfield." This is a dream come true.
Posted by: Bob at February 23, 2019 12:51 PM (fVGlW)

What Happens In Merced, Pretty Much Stays In Merced®

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 23, 2019 01:06 PM (UGqF8)

286 First home run of the season for the Yankees. LOL

Gleybor Torres

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2019 01:06 PM (bim/x)

287 279 And then run the country as a protectorate for at least a generation to reeducate the people on the rights and responsibilities of free people.
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We did that with Haiti from 1919 until the FDR administration got bored with it and bailed. The country went right back to shit as soon as we left.

Then there's Cuba, who went from 'our bastard' to 'commie bastard' pretty quickly.

So what'd happen to Hawaii if we told them to fuck off we're pulling your statehood ticket?

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2019 01:07 PM (8erNz)

288 The demand for the "Green Car" Cheech and Chong rode in "Up in Smoke" is off the charts.

Posted by: Ray at February 23, 2019 01:07 PM (AVxHd)

289 It's a put on

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 01:07 PM (PUmDY)

290 >>> the chains of capitalistic individualism

Slavery is freedom.

Posted by: fluffy at February 23, 2019 01:08 PM (2AGwN)

291 Honestly I love the idea of train travel, I love to travel BY train. I love the concept of high speed rail over long distances like California. I want it to work.

But it doesn't. The supposedly great European rail system only works because the EU government shovels huge piles of cash into it like a coal tender in a locomotive. Its not a viable concept, its a cash vacuum.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2019 01:08 PM (39g3+)

292 Opinion: Why Building Housing Near Mass Transit Promotes Collectivism
It will break us from the chains of capitalistic individualism and the destructive car-centric lifestyle.

It is like the Green New Deal, which has less to do with energy policy than it does with completely remaking society.

You'd need a lot of graves for the transgender commies and a fair number of jail cells for the rest of us.

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2019 01:09 PM (8erNz)

293 The supposedly great European rail system only works because the EU government shovels huge piles of cash into it like a coal tender in a locomotive. Its not a viable concept, its a cash vacuum.
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Europe also isn't nearly as BIG as the US.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 23, 2019 01:09 PM (Hx3Yn)

294
So what'd happen to Hawaii if we told them to fuck off we're pulling your statehood ticket?
Posted by: JEM

Adventures in Paradise

after they kick out the haole

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2019 01:10 PM (aKsyK)

295
I'm watching the show Witness to War about the Fall of France and one of the historians is Lynette Nusbacher. Lynette used to be Aryeh. He was on a lot of the history shows giving insight into events. I had no idea he's now pretending to be a woman. He was an ugly guy and an even uglier fake woman.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2019 01:10 PM (SiINZ)

296 I had a leftist friend defend trains by saying that we pay constantly for highways to keep going too, they are an ongoing tax expense.

And he's right, they are. Not remotely as much as trains, but a regular expense to maintain and upgrade. The big difference is that highways are open and free areas which people can use as they desire. Trains are fixed and limited areas that only go where you are taken. Highways are simply a response to what people were already doing, how they choose to do it. Trains are a top-down imposition of movement and travel, at their schedule.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2019 01:10 PM (39g3+)

297 So what'd happen to Hawaii if we told them to fuck off we're pulling your statehood ticket?
Posted by: JEM

HELLO CHINA

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2019 01:10 PM (bim/x)

298 We did that with Haiti from 1919 until the FDR administration got bored with it and bailed. The country went right back to shit as soon as we left.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 23, 2019 01:04 PM (Hx3Yn)

Well, Haiti is a shithole because it's full of Haitians. That should be obvious.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2019 01:11 PM (nPGq2)

299 But it doesn't. The supposedly great European rail system only works because the EU government shovels huge piles of cash into it like a coal tender in a locomotive.

Europe is also a lot denser, with shorter distances between cities.

Oregon is the size of Germany, and has one-twentieth's German's population.

Posted by: The ARC of History at February 23, 2019 01:11 PM (I2/tG)

300 I'm watching the show Witness to War about the Fall of France and one of the historians is Lynette Nusbacher. Lynette used to be Aryeh. He was on a lot of the history shows giving insight into events. I had no idea he's now pretending to be a woman. He was an ugly guy and an even uglier fake woman.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2019 01:10 PM (SiINZ)

Yeah that gives me the heebee jeebees also. At first I thought it was his sister but NOOOOOO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2019 01:11 PM (bim/x)

301 The billionaire founder of a Boston-based equity firm joins Patriots owner Robert Kraft as one of the ultra-rich caught up in the months-long police probe of Florida massage parlors, authorities said.

Well I always said the Red Sox and Boston Fans were jerk offs?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2019 01:12 PM (bim/x)

302 Think about spending $300 million on a website.

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etter be bodacious boobs.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2019 01:13 PM (+y/Ru)

303 I'm watching the show Witness to War about the Fall of France and one of the historians is Lynette Nusbacher. Lynette used to be Aryeh. He was on a lot of the history shows giving insight into events. I had no idea he's now pretending to be a woman. He was an ugly guy and an even uglier fake woman.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2019 01:10 PM (SiINZ)

Sorry, I am not going to regard a nut case who cannot even come to grips with his own identity as an authority on anything. Falsus en unum...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2019 01:14 PM (nPGq2)

304 To save the planet, we need to go back to the horse and buggy.

We can use the manure to heat our homes and we can strain the horse urine for drinking water and female hormones.

Luddite's FTW!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2019 01:14 PM (Z+IKu)

305 Falsus en unum...
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That's *my* line!

Posted by: Dick "Stolen Valor" Blumenthal at February 23, 2019 01:15 PM (Hx3Yn)

306 291 Honestly I love the idea of train travel, I love to travel BY train. I love the concept of high speed rail over long distances like California. I want it to work.

But it doesn't. The supposedly great European rail system only works because the EU government shovels huge piles of cash into it like a coal tender in a locomotive. Its not a viable concept, its a cash vacuum.

Yeah, but...consider distances. SF-LA is ~450 miles.

That's on par with London-Edinburgh or Munich-Brussels and I'm betting a whole lot more folks fly those routes than take the train.

London-Paris through the tunnel is 250 miles, London-Bristol is 120 miles,

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2019 01:15 PM (8erNz)

307 Wait until Ken Burns gets a hold of Lynette Nusbacher. Though I don't know what he could actually grab.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 23, 2019 01:17 PM (lQinC)

308 Wait until Ken Burns gets a hold of Lynette Nusbacher. Though I don't know what he could actually grab.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 23, 2019 01:17 PM (lQinC)

The dick?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2019 01:18 PM (nPGq2)

309 Europe also isn't nearly as BIG as the US.

True but California is a decent analogy for Europe say, Austria to the tip of Italy or London to Marsailles. Its just not worth it to put trains into the USA because the expense is huge (and ongoing) and the return very small.

Europe is not too terribly much smaller than the USA overall (including the Russian portion)

http://tinyurl.com/y35lnvb3

Its just that individual nations in Europe are significantly smaller.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2019 01:18 PM (39g3+)

310 To save the planet, we need to go back to the horse and buggy.

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One argument against doing that is that there'd be shit everywhere but San Francisco has already crossed that threshold.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2019 01:18 PM (+y/Ru)

311 telling reporters that Native Americans should be "part of the conversation" on reparations for African-Americans

"Get a job." End of "the conversation."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 23, 2019 01:18 PM (AQVpU)

312 That's on par with London-Edinburgh or Munich-Brussels and I'm betting a whole lot more folks fly those routes than take the train.
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I took the train from Edinburgh to London. I had nice conversations with my seatmates, but I was more than ready for the train to pull into King's Cross toward the end.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 23, 2019 01:18 PM (Hx3Yn)

313 Feb 23, 1991 the ground war of Desert Storm began.

I have seen in your eyes a fire determination to get this war job done quickly. My confidence in you is total, our cause is just. Now you must be the thunder and lightning of Desert Storm.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2019 01:19 PM (0tfLf)

314 I did the London to Edinburgh overnight train. Not the best night sleep I ever had but it was kind of cool. I imagine the LA to SF train would be party to all kinds of debauchery.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 23, 2019 01:19 PM (lQinC)

315 Europe is not too terribly much smaller than the USA overall (including the Russian portion)

http://tinyurl.com/y35lnvb3

Its just that individual nations in Europe are significantly smaller.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2019 01:18 PM (39g3+)

The major difference: population density. See also Japan.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 23, 2019 01:19 PM (AQVpU)

316 How is the Boston to nyc train?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 01:21 PM (PUmDY)

317 Ditty from my own dirty Irish / filthy Scandi childhood:

A thousand Swedes ran through the weeds, chased by one Norweigian.

(I have no idea what battle that commemorates, but that is what I learned as a kid.)

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 23, 2019 01:21 PM (MIKMs)

318 The gardening thread is up. Or you can stick around here.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 23, 2019 01:21 PM (BVQ+1)

319 Thinking past the feasibility of a high speed choo choo train and how it was simply a slush fund for JB to pass around patronage - note how the map shown above conveniently forgets half of the state north of Sacratomato. Yeah.

How about completing BART to include the peninsula below SFO to San Jose? That single last stretch of BART would service every single electric car driving jackass leftist jerk in the whole of the SFBA.

I lived in San Mateo and used to drive to Hayward, jump on BART, and hit the A's games with a pal. No parking hassles and the train dropped us at the field (didn't have to do that going to Candlestick since it was only a 12 minute drive.).

Posted by: 13times at February 23, 2019 01:21 PM (K3B2k)

320 Wait until Ken Burns gets a hold of Lynette Nusbacher. Though I don't know what he could actually grab.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 23, 2019 01:17 PM (lQinC)

The dick?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2019 01:18 PM (nPGq2)

I think Aryeh had that lopped off

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2019 01:22 PM (SiINZ)

321 How is the Boston to nyc train?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 01:21 PM (PUmDY)

You usually arrive alive

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 23, 2019 01:22 PM (bim/x)

322 Well, Haiti is a shithole because it's full of Haitians. That should be obvious.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2019 01:11 PM (nPGq2)

This.

Third World countries are in the Third World because they have Third World populations.

It's that simple.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 23, 2019 01:23 PM (AQVpU)

323 According to stats I could find online

http://tinyurl.com/yyzyfeyf

Germany and France alone account for nearly half the Eurorail useage in Europe and 71% of rail travel worldwide. So most folks are not actually using the long trips that California's rail would represent, I agree. I cant actually find stats on average distance traveled by Eurorail, but I suspect strongly that its "to work and back" not "to Luxmbourg and back."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2019 01:23 PM (39g3+)

324 Big Fat Meanie at February 23, 2019 01:19 PM

Ever heard of the Coast Starlight? Already in existence.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 23, 2019 01:24 PM (BVQ+1)

325 Wait until Ken Burns gets a hold of Lynette Nusbacher. Though I don't know what he could actually grab.

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Just be glad Shelby Foote didn't decide to turn into Michelle half was through The Civil War.

Fun fact about Foote: he was a stateside officer during WWII but he went AWOL to visit a young lady of his acquaintance and was busted to the ranks.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2019 01:24 PM (+y/Ru)

326 "Why Building Housing Near Mass Transit Promotes Collectivism

It will break us from the chains of capitalistic individualism"

yes, warehouse the workers in big boxes that reach to the sky, the Soviets did that for their people. And if they are full of H1Bs, they can be made even more subservient.

One farmer by me (a liar and insurance cheat and worse) ... I'm told his family/group has bought up like 50 family farms. This is the opposite of the direction I think we need. Especially if his money is from an outsider, that maybe got some sweet bailouts and is now buying up America with easy money from manipulated markets.

Another guy that gets most of the road projects around here, I'm told he is buying huge amounts of land in the next county over. Again, sweet government money or connections ... leading to a few "elite" buying up the country itself, with the serfs being indebted renters. And those serfs hand their kids an unsustainable $200T in unfunded liabilities ...

Posted by: illiniwek at February 23, 2019 01:24 PM (Cus5s)

327 Lynnette Nusbacher has been married to Melanie Bright since 1998, and the couple is reportedly still together.

The Nusbacher's have two children and live near Guildford, Surrey in England.

Melanie has been a huge support to Lynette and protects her whenever she gets the chance. "She does not wish to talk to you about a private matter." Melanie had said when prying eyes wanted to know details about the gender reassignment Lynette went through.

Between this fruit loop and the guy shoving meth up his ass maybe a good dose of toxic masculinity could have cured all of their ills

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2019 01:26 PM (SiINZ)

328 One of the things that caught my eye last week about high speed rail was that the only two profitable runs (Spain and Japan, I think) were runs where the corresponding highways required tolls of about eighty dollars.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 23, 2019 01:26 PM (BVQ+1)

329 Highways, and railways both take up large swathes of land, and remove it from agricultural production, and by bisecting farms, hinder the productivity of adjoining land. And both have "maintenance of way" as an ongoing expense.

Air travel has no "maintenance of way" issues at all, and the relatively small amount of land occupied by airports usually enhances the value of surrounding lands for industrial parks, hotels, restaurants, etc.

And any decent international airport probably has more passenger throughput than any station on Cali's proposed high speed rail ever would.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2019 01:26 PM (nPGq2)

330 Europe also isn't nearly as BIG as the US.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 23, 2019 01:09 PM (Hx3Yn)

London to Moscow is 1500 miles (IIRC). Kinda like LA to Chicago, which Americans consider to be a fairly short hop.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 23, 2019 01:26 PM (AQVpU)

331 Third World countries are in the Third World because they have Third World populations.

It's that simple.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 23, 2019 01:23 PM (AQVpU)

So let's import them here by the millions. What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2019 01:27 PM (SiINZ)

332 Our town is trying out the electric scooter thing. People don't use them as alternate transportation like we were told theybqould. %90+ of the riders ar Millenial men reliving their childhoods riding them for fun.

Meanwhile the city is littered with these scooters (and bicycles) everywhere.

Posted by: 29Victor at February 23, 2019 01:28 PM (h8ae5)

333 The Russians had lots of trains in the late teens and early twenties.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2019 01:28 PM (Z+IKu)

334 Europe is awful

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 01:29 PM (PUmDY)

335 Wait until Ken Burns gets a hold of Lynette Nusbacher.

I'm looking for Ken Burns to transition too. In fact, I think he's overdue to transition.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 23, 2019 01:29 PM (AQVpU)

336 So let's import them here by the millions. What could possibly go wrong?

Yeah a trickle of ambitious and self-making people is good for the country, they'll adapt and learn and bring benefits to us like tacos. A flood simply transplants their problems into our midst like cholera and measles.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2019 01:30 PM (39g3+)

337 More evidence of collusion!

Ukranian President Poroshenko Praises Trump's Leadership On Russia

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2019 01:31 PM (+y/Ru)

338 Haiti also has the Clinton Bush parasite factor.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 01:32 PM (PUmDY)

339 A local "transportation advocate" sent out a Tweet a few days ago denouncing electric cars - because electric cars would allow people to continue to live in icky auto-dependent suburbs. They hate suburban park-and-rides at mass transit stops for the same reason - the point is to kill single-family housing, and to make all serfs live in a high-rise apartment a quarter-mile from a mass transit stop.

Ooh, can I be block captain, ensuring that no one on the block slips into counter-revolutionary thought or activity?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 23, 2019 01:33 PM (AQVpU)

340 Not if I see you first!

https://bit.ly/2SVK3PK

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2019 01:34 PM (+y/Ru)

341 Will the scooters be able to maneuver around all the sidewalk poop?

Posted by: Aud at February 23, 2019 01:35 PM (uBywd)

342 334 Europe is awful
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 01:29 PM (PUmDY)

Liberals gush that Europe is "so sophisticated."

They've obviously never lived there. Sure, selected areas are wonderful, but that's true here too. Go to the industrial areas, the Muslim-infested areas, the backwaters, perhaps attend the odd soccer riot, and then talk to me about sophistication.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 23, 2019 01:35 PM (AQVpU)

343 341 Will the scooters be able to maneuver around all the sidewalk poop?
Posted by: Aud at February 23, 2019 01:35 PM (uBywd)

They'd better, or they won't gain traction.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 23, 2019 01:36 PM (AQVpU)

344 333 The Russians had lots of trains in the late teens and early twenties.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2019 01:28 PM (Z+IKu)

The Russian had (maybe still have) a thing for trains. Classic Russian literature is replete with references to trains (and people being run over by them) probably because trains symbolized progress and industrialization to them.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 23, 2019 01:38 PM (AQVpU)

345 The bipartisan Clinton Bush Haiti deal is very scummy.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 01:38 PM (PUmDY)

346 They've obviously never lived there. Sure, selected areas are wonderful, but that's true here too.

Some of them have been, but they go to the nice spots like dipstick Conan O'Brian going to a resort in Haiti and claiming that shows its not a shithole. Really???

I remember an example of that from my life, going to Charleston South Carolina which has a really beautiful downtown area along the ocean, and the rest of the city is a craphole. The rest of the damned state is a craphole. You go to the nice area and think that's what the entire place is like, then go home and brag about how great it is. Europeans come to America and EVERYWHERE is amazing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2019 01:39 PM (39g3+)

347 262 55---There was a dumb phuch on a Fox panel this week trying to blame the failures of Socialism on neighboring Capitalism. It seems the existence of Capitalism lures the sheep away, aka True Socialism has never been tried, yada, yada.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 23, 2019 11:45 AM (ffYR/)
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Yep.
Classic Marxist-Leninist doctrine.
It's a clever way (1) to explain the manifest failure of commies to achieve utopia and (2) to justify imperialism/globalism.
by: Margarita DeVille at February 23, 2019 12:56 PM (Rxduq)

The only thing socialists produce in abundance is excuses.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 23, 2019 01:39 PM (AQVpU)

348 Many third world shit holes are products of bad political systems, largely socialism where the money concentrates in the ruling party's hands. Venezuela became a shit hole due to the promise of socialism and a very bad dictator. If AOC and Bernie have their way we will be a third world shit hole too.

As I end my career, I have noted that some of the hardest working people in the facility are from the third world shit holes of Africa and the Caribbean (especially Haiti). Others hail from former Warsaw Pact states. All are happy to be in a system where they can keep a lot of what they earn, where they can advance based on work and not party loyalty.

When they see our justice system failing and the cries for equality of income, they say "I thought I left this fucking bullshit behind"

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2019 01:40 PM (U7k5w)

349 It's not so easy to shoot Maduro.
He has top-flight personal security, trained and reinforced by Cubans.

And then there is the "sensible" gun-control enacted by Chavez, which disarmed the middle class.

The usual suspects (Russia, Iran, Cuba) will see to it that the army is fed well.

OTOH, it could be worse. You could have commies like Obama and Rousseff (Brazil) in power, which would preclude the possibility of outside help of ANY kind.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 23, 2019 01:40 PM (Rxduq)

350 There are idiots everywhere, but especially in Europe.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 01:41 PM (PUmDY)

351 Some of them have been, but they go to the nice spots like dipstick Conan O'Brian going to a resort in Haiti and claiming that shows its not a shithole. Really???

Visiting is one thing. Living there is another.

Europeans come to America and EVERYWHERE is amazing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2019 01:39 PM (39g3+)

I guess they forgot to visit the sportier, more diverse places such as Compton, East St. Louis, Gary, Camden, Detroit, Oakland ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 23, 2019 01:42 PM (AQVpU)

352 He has top-flight personal security, trained and reinforced by Cubans.

Maduro is currently being guarded by Russian mercenaries, courtesy of Putin.

Posted by: The ARC of History at February 23, 2019 01:43 PM (I2/tG)

353 The Russians had lots of trains in the late teens and early twenties.

OH yeah, so did the USA. So did everywhere. It was the way you got around long distances in the 19th century. Cars were just starting to show up at the end of the century, roads were dirt and maybe old Roman stone ones. Trains were just how you got around, them and ships.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2019 01:43 PM (39g3+)

354 "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez probably does not approve."

Yeah, obviously Bezos used the $3 Billion he stole from NYC for his space program

Posted by: Shanks for the memory at February 23, 2019 01:44 PM (TdCQk)

355 As I end my career, I have noted that some of the hardest working people in the facility are from the third world shit holes of Africa and the Caribbean (especially Haiti). Others hail from former Warsaw Pact states. All are happy to be in a system where they can keep a lot of what they earn, where they can advance based on work and not party loyalty.

Yeah its the difference between immigrants and freeloaders. People who go through the system and the hardship to join the USA and people who just want to come and get goodies.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2019 01:45 PM (39g3+)

356 The Germans had some commuter trains.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 01:45 PM (PUmDY)

357 Three Oklahoma teenagers were killed last week when they broke into a house and were met by a homeowner with an AR-15. Now the grandfather of one of the teenagers is speaking out about his grandson's death.

According to KTUL-TV, Leroy Schumacher, grandfather of 17-year-old Jacob Redfearn, believes the death of Redfearn was unjustified because the homeowner's AR-15 gave him an unfair advantage over the three burglars.

"Brass knuckles against an AR-15? C'mon. Who was afraid for their life?" Schumacher said.

-
He's mad because junior took brass knuckles to a gunfight?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2019 01:46 PM (+y/Ru)

358 355: All of them are legally here, and came to work hard and live free. Some of their countries are improving over the past 25 years and some think of going back and contributing to this, especially the ones from Ghana where the improvement is significant.

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2019 01:47 PM (U7k5w)

359 Tigers

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 01:48 PM (PUmDY)

360 355: Most of the Haitians detest HRC

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2019 01:48 PM (U7k5w)

361
Will the scooters be able to maneuver around all the sidewalk poop?
Posted by: Aud at February 23, 2019 01:35 PM (uBywd)

I see an exploding market for poop flaps

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 23, 2019 01:49 PM (TAmPV)

362 It slides under the radar but Texas has a high speed rail project with a pretty reasonable chance of coming to fruition.

Basically downtown Dallas to non-downtown Houston, but not middle of nowhere Houston. One stop in the middle (for some reason) kind of near-ish to Texas A&M. Private funding (notionally) and based on Japanese bullet train tech.

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at February 23, 2019 01:49 PM (dYe5S)

363 ccording to KTUL-TV, Leroy Schumacher, grandfather of 17-year-old Jacob Redfearn, believes the death of Redfearn was unjustified because the homeowner's AR-15 gave him an unfair advantage over the three burglars.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 23, 2019 01:46 PM (+y/Ru)

Unfair advantage! Penalty is declined! Replay first down!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 23, 2019 01:51 PM (AQVpU)

364 It slides under the radar but Texas has a high speed rail project with a pretty reasonable chance of coming to fruition.

Texas seems a more reasonable option, in the flatter, more open areas at least. Fewer earthquakes, for one thing. But still a trash can for leftists to throw money into forever.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2019 01:51 PM (39g3+)

365 Will the scooters be able to maneuver around all the sidewalk poop?
Posted by: Aud at February 23, 2019 01:35 PM (uBywd)

I see an exploding market for poop flaps
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 23, 2019 01:49 PM (TAmPV)

And for studded poop tires.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 23, 2019 01:51 PM (AQVpU)

366 The Bushes are in on that scam. Vomit

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 01:56 PM (PUmDY)

367
Leroy Schumacher, grandfather of 17-year-old Jacob Redfearn, believes the death of Redfearn was unjustified because the homeowner's AR-15 gave him an unfair advantage over the three burglars.

Ah, the ol' palestinian terrorist defense.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 23, 2019 01:57 PM (I94sX)

368 Leroy Schumacher, grandfather of 17-year-old Jacob Redfearn, believes the death of Redfearn was unjustified because the homeowner's AR-15 gave him an unfair advantage over the three burglars.

Ah, the ol' palestinian terrorist defense.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 23, 2019 01:57 PM (I94sX)

And why is the thug's grandfather speaking out on his behalf? Father in jail, or dead, or just skipped town?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2019 02:03 PM (nPGq2)

369 And why is the thug's grandfather speaking out on his behalf? Father in jail, or dead, or just skipped town?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2019 02:03 PM (nPGq2)

Or unknown.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 23, 2019 02:04 PM (AQVpU)

370 I need a nap

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2019 02:05 PM (/rm4P)

371
Leroy Schumacher, grandfather of 17-year-old Jacob Redfearn, believes the death of Redfearn was unjustified because the homeowner's AR-15 gave him an unfair advantage over the three burglars.

Okay,okay 15 Yard yard penalty and replay the burglary. Oh wait he's dead.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 23, 2019 02:06 PM (TAmPV)

372 Does Leroy Schumacher think he's a comedian?

Make bad decisions, bad things happen to you. The poor homeowner now has to live with the horror his grandson brought down on himself.

Idiot.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2019 02:08 PM (Z+IKu)

373 And why is the thug's grandfather speaking out on his behalf? Father in jail, or dead, or just skipped town?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Or unknown.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel

That's my guess. "Grandfather" is almost certainly mom's dad, not dad's dad.

Also, "unfair advantage over the three burglars."

So, in a fair fight, one of the three burglars would have switched sides to make it two-on-two?

Posted by: mikeski at February 23, 2019 02:10 PM (P1f+c)

374
So, in a fair fight, one of the three burglars would have switched sides to make it two-on-two?

Posted by: mikeski at February 23, 2019 02:10 PM (P1f+c)

It could happen.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 23, 2019 02:11 PM (TAmPV)

375

A North Carolina judge has voided constitutional amendments approved by voters in November requiring photo identification to vote in person and capping the state income tax rate.

The judge sided Friday with the state NAACP, which argued last year's edition of the General Assembly that voted to put amendments to the North Carolina Constitution on the ballot was illegally constituted due to racially gerrymandered districts.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2019 02:11 PM (aKsyK)

376
Leroy Schumacher, grandfather of 17-year-old Jacob Redfearn, believes the death of Redfearn was unjustified because the homeowner's AR-15 gave him an unfair advantage over the three burglars.

A higher IQ probably helped as well.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2019 02:14 PM (aKsyK)

377 Pretty awesome, was there...

http://tinyurl.com/hmj693b

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 02:15 PM (PUmDY)

378 Who is the thug?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 02:17 PM (PUmDY)

379 375
.....The judge sided Friday with the state NAACP, which argued last year's edition of the General Assembly that voted to put amendments to the North Carolina Constitution on the ballot was illegally constituted due to racially gerrymandered districts.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2019 02:11 PM (aKsyK)
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Hey, that's a step beyond the usual judicial tyranny!
This voids EVERYTHING a whole legislature has enacted!
And the populace will accept it meekly.

We are doomed.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 23, 2019 02:19 PM (Rxduq)

380 Big Madness fan.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 02:23 PM (PUmDY)

381 Now that CO has another Demonrat Gov. and entire legislature, they are trying to enact the gun control the voters overturned under Lickenpooper. Makes me ill.

Posted by: Infidel at February 23, 2019 02:28 PM (9L2du)

382 Lsu

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 02:30 PM (PUmDY)

383 Now that CO has another Demonrat Gov. and entire legislature, they are trying to enact the gun control the voters overturned under Lickenpooper. Makes me ill.

Posted by: Infidel

I heard that their "voluntary" registration/buyback thing in Boulder has netted exactly zero weapons.

Molon labe, bitches.

Posted by: mikeski at February 23, 2019 02:30 PM (P1f+c)

384 When I mentioned Russian trains, I was thinking more like this one.

https://tinyurl.com/hcr92ck

Every commie big shot should have one or two.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2019 02:31 PM (Z+IKu)

385 A true feelgood story.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/322617/

Posted by: steevy at February 23, 2019 02:31 PM (BXMxN)

386 That's my guess. "Grandfather" is almost certainly mom's dad, not dad's dad.

Yep. That would explain the difference in surnames.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 23, 2019 02:33 PM (AQVpU)

387 The faster a state goes Democrats the sooner the constitution gets trashed

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2019 02:36 PM (/rm4P)

388 Take the high speed train from LAX to SFO for three times the time and twice the price of flying.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 23, 2019 02:37 PM (pw+jk)

389 In 10 years the third world peasants California has imported by the millions will be scavenging what is left of the bullet train project for copper to sell by the pound. With current trajectory, that will be the fate of the rest of the country not long after.

Posted by: Ripley at February 23, 2019 02:39 PM (MxEKc)

390 "Space ... the Final Frontier ..."

A reminder that International Talk Like William Shatner Day is March 22nd.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 23, 2019 02:41 PM (+28h2)

391 Electric scooter companies should have to provide handicap alternatives.

Rule #4: "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."

- Alinsky

Posted by: Marooned at February 23, 2019 11:35 AM (8hRlF)

=====
They already have done that in Moonbat Central, Santa Barbara. It has stopped the whole state from instituting the electric scooters.

I. Shit. You. NOT.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 23, 2019 02:42 PM (pw+jk)

392
I heard that their "voluntary" registration/buyback thing in Boulder has netted exactly zero weapons.

Molon labe, bitches.

Posted by: mikeski at February 23, 2019 02:30 PM (P1f+c)

They are trying for the Red Flag law now. Some LEO's are for it some are not.

Posted by: Infidel at February 23, 2019 02:49 PM (9L2du)

393 There is a plan for a future "express" route to Manteca. So there's that.

"Manteca" means "butter" in Spanish. An express train to butter is money well spent.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2019 02:51 PM (t+qrx)

394 Fuck the Mexican Border. We need a wall around California. And we need it now.

Posted by: Sodak Saxonographer at February 23, 2019 02:53 PM (xmKbk)

395 https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/322617/

Posted by: steevy at February 23, 2019 02:31 PM (BXMxN)

Brought tears to my eyes.

Posted by: Infidel at February 23, 2019 02:53 PM (9L2du)

396 The Texas HSR project has a lot of real organized opposition. It isn't at all popular.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 23, 2019 02:55 PM (0EM+d)

397 393
"Manteca" means "butter" in Spanish. An express train to butter is money well spent.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2019 02:51 PM (t+qrx)
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No, manteca is lard.
You're thinking of mantequilla.

But an express train to lard is cool too, I guess.
Either way, the low-fat police will cringe.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 23, 2019 02:57 PM (Rxduq)

398 Epic...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-qnSz6Lh5pY

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 02:58 PM (PUmDY)

399 I hate emojis

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 03:00 PM (PUmDY)

400

nackt

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 23, 2019 03:01 PM (I94sX)

401 No, manteca is lard.
You're thinking of mantequilla.

But an express train to lard is cool too, I guess.
Either way, the low-fat police will cringe.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 23, 2019 02:57 PM (Rxduq)

Oops, you're right, of course. I was thinking of mantequilla.

Still: totally would. Though I draw the line at searching Urban Dictionary for "lard train".

Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2019 03:02 PM (t+qrx)

402 nood pet.

Posted by: Infidel at February 23, 2019 03:05 PM (9L2du)

403
Space Travel

Although they promote global hotting and have a lot of anti-Trump comments and lean Left, I find that Ars Technica has very solid regular reporting on current space news. They follow all the major and most minor space companies, their acquisition of manufacturing/launch facilities, their current and upcoming rocket designs. They have a weekly space thread on the latest news and scheduled launches for the week. For major launches like Falcon Heavy or other notable launches, they host a livestream. As media outlet, they are clearly determined to keep up with space news and provide enough space content to keep their nerd readers happy and not needing to look for space news elsewhere. If you like space news, it's a good site to follow. They also do well with archeology news.

Posted by: TooCon at February 23, 2019 03:05 PM (tV1Ba)

404 391---They already have done that in Moonbat Central, Santa Barbara. It has stopped the whole state from instituting the electric scooters.

I. Shit. You. NOT.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 23, 2019 02:42 PM (pw+jk)
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We are beyond parody.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 23, 2019 03:06 PM (Rxduq)

405 399 I hate emojis
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2019 03:00 PM (PUmDY)
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Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 23, 2019 03:06 PM (Rxduq)

406 California is like a cancer, they keep migrating to other states then try and turn that into the socialist paradise California isn't.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2019 03:13 PM (/rm4P)

407
California is like a cancer, they keep migrating to other states then try and turn that into the socialist paradise California isn't.

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2019 03:13 PM (/rm4P)

It was socialist migrating to California from the northeast and midwest in the 1960's that ruined the state.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 23, 2019 03:27 PM (TAmPV)

408

This three is already dead, but I'll say this: This boondoggle project is why we should all be thankful Trump was stopped from using those elaborate Wall prototype designs. And instead had to go with a beefed up version of existing steel wall designs. Going with those massive concrete structures would've taken forever to build in places that barely have road access and looked to me to be 5-10 times more expensive that the prefabbed, all-steel, walls. It'd be the year 2030 by the time the project was finished, if it hadn't been cancelled by a future administration. I've noticed that it cost $3.6 million per mile to build the steel slats in the NM desert while the concrete levee with bollards on top is running $24 million per mile.

Posted by: Serious Cat at February 23, 2019 04:12 PM (Xqo6t)

409 309
Europe is not too terribly much smaller than the USA overall (including the Russian portion)

http://tinyurl.com/y35lnvb3
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2019 01:18 PM (39g3+)

What Fits Into America

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2019 04:25 PM (sdi6R)

410
Regarding the CalTrain, the important thing is to know the existing work has generated a lot of graft for families and friends of government officials associated with the project.

How much actually gets built is secondary.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 23, 2019 04:39 PM (sy5kK)

411 LeftCoast Dawg at February 23, 2019 04:39 PM
Graft gets distributed far beyond friends and families of government officials in California. Ordinary government employees often get in on some of it.

Posted by: KT at February 23, 2019 04:52 PM (BVQ+1)

412 102 Norway has a mostly homogenous population of a little over 5 million and an assload of oil."

It's almost as if you take a small, all white, educated and civilized population, almost any form of government would work!
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Not once have I seen any of the LeftieMediaMachine mention this truth. Not once.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 23, 2019 04:57 PM (sy5kK)

413 I like this.

Posted by: this kind of thinking at February 24, 2019 12:20 AM (8xtON)

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