Does the American Psychological Association believe in science? [KT]

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Why does the APA hate chivalry?

Back on January 8, before the Gillette ad accidentally affirmed the value of the traditional patriarchy (thanks to J.J. for the tip), Ace wrote a piece on the American Psychological Association's effective declaration that traditional masculinity is toxic masculinity.

Well, I keep seeing stuff about the Gillette ad, but I am not seeing as much commentary in the big news outlets about the APA's new guidelines, which are more important in the long run. I thought it might be a good idea to follow up on Ace's post, which got down to the nitty-gritty:

Men must be made into women. Women are the perfect working model; men are the defective deviation from the proper functioning of the model.

You should probably re-read the post, as it offers a good explanation of the reasoning behind the new guidelines. Since Ace's post, I have seen a few other interesting observations.

Insty put up an excerpt from a WSJ piece by Erika Komisar entitled, Masculinity Isn't a Sickness. It starts:

In my practice as a psychotherapist, I've seen an increase of depression in young men who feel emasculated in a society that is hostile to masculinity. New guidelines from the American Psychological Association defining "traditional masculinity" as a pathological state are likely only to make matters worse. . .

The truth is that masculine traits such as aggression, competitiveness and protective vigilance not only can be positive, but also have a biological basis. Boys and men produce far more testosterone, which is associated biologically and behaviorally with increased aggression and competitiveness. They also produce more vasopressin, a hormone originating in the brain that makes men aggressively protective of their loved ones.

She also has some thoughts on negative judgments about feminine women. And Insty includes a nice quote by Andy Ngo, a guy who now stands up to the left on a regular basis, on why he used to attack masculinity.

A little earlier, David Thompson reviewed a few pieces of commentary and noted the absence of any meaningful reference to things like BIOLOGY or TESTOSTERONE in the APA document. How could discussions of those nasty science-y topics help us understand men and boys?

However, the word privilege occurs 19 times, and the word transgender no fewer than 60.

As DeGroot points out, it seems unwise to redefine masculinity in order to flatter the resentments and insecurities of the fringe and maladjusted - say, "social justice" enthusiasts who consider themselves "marginalised" by expectations of competence, competitiveness and emotional self-possession. Or those who describe themselves as transsexual, non-binary or "gender non-conforming." As if a proclivity for adventurousness or risk-taking, and a desire for achievement, were fundamentally a problem, something to be fixed. And it goes without saying that the writers of the APA's guidelines would be unlikely to enjoy lives of comfort and status without a great many others embracing the values and inclinations - including ambition, stoicism and courage - that our self-imagined betters strive to pathologise.

This quote from Andrew Sullivan surprised me a little:

The ideological misandry is unmistakable. Check out the equivalent guidelines for women and girls, issued in 2007. Where stoicism is a bad thing for men, especially black men, here's how it works for women: "In therapy, teaching, research, and supervision, psychologists are encouraged to become aware not only of the challenges that women and girls have faced, but of the resiliency and strength that women and girls have shown in response." For men, "assertiveness" is part of a pathology; for women, it is a virtue.

There's more at the link, including in the comments.

And taxpayers subsidized this ideological monstrosity.

Practical Video

Even if you are dismayed by some of Jordan Peterson's recent political stances, I think you might find this video interesting. It concerns his day job and makes the APA look kind of foolish. How can you look at groups of children, discover the most naturally aggressive children among two-year-old boys (older children being less aggressive) and attribute that to "traditional masculine ideology" rather than to, say, biology? Do people really treat infants and toddlers in more sexually binary ways than they do older children?

The really useful part of the video is the discussion of the positive effects of rough-and-tumble play (generally between adult males and young children). Especially in the case of aggressive little boys. The kind of little boys who could grow up to be bullies or sexual predators. Did Gillette make this clear in their recent ad? Doesn't sound like the APA is much interested in promoting this civilization-enhancing activity.

Hope you have a great weekend.

Yes, this is the Thread Before the Gardening Thread.

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1 Centered.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 19, 2019 11:24 AM (ZxU8C)

2 Something wrong?

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 19, 2019 11:25 AM (jYje5)

3 Well said. Even if it is a bit too centrist for my tastes.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 19, 2019 11:25 AM (2PXwn)

4 Is that Gillette or Jillette ?

Posted by: undocumented illegal so-called Internet Influencer at January 19, 2019 11:27 AM (e8kgV)

5 Woman: "Why is this toxic white devil male oppressing me and my anchor baby with his toxic chivarality???"

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 19, 2019 11:28 AM (/qEW2)

6 So, I got into an argument the other day with one of the Women's March Organizers from New York.

I won't belabor the argument points, but what I walked away with is that -- as typically happens -- liberals have added another unproven concept to the culture wars.

There is no basis for the term "toxic masculinity" yet here we are debating it. You may as well be debating Neverland and unicorns. Yet, it has metastasized in our debate and will never be removed, while traditional terms of masculinity and Christian values have been outlawed by the politically correct.

Sadly, we are left with the irrational debris of the left scattered across public discourse and sterilized of those legitimate terms of who we are by political correctness.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 19, 2019 11:28 AM (ZxU8C)

7
Today is Centered Saturday

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 19, 2019 11:29 AM (TAmPV)

8 Unfortunately, radical feminists don't care if men are suffering increased depression from feeling emasculated. Chicks like Jessica Valenti, who go around proclaiming "I Bathe In Male Tears"? Nothing could make them happier.

Our best hope is that this class will eventually breed (or rather, not-breed) itself out of existence.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 19, 2019 11:29 AM (2PXwn)

9
When I was in school we had gym class every day and recess. Us 'guys' burned off our extra energy by running around or having a game of some sort. Now they want males subdued into submission through drugs or intimidation.

They tried drugs first, now it's prime time for intimidation and shaming. Useful idiots like the APA are idiots.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 19, 2019 11:31 AM (jYje5)

10 Back in the '90s, I was thumbing through my wife's copy of the DSM-IV and joked that eventually the APA would classify all human behavior as mental illness. Seems I wasn't far wrong.

And now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to donate blood.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 19, 2019 11:31 AM (Hx3Yn)

11 From time to time, Sarah Hoyt mentions Heinlein's 'Crazy years'. I've made a half-hearted attempt to search out Heinlein's 'Future History' books looking for the way the crazy years were described.

Can anyone clue me in, or do I just get the future history books? They weren't familiar to me. They are a bit pricey for my budget.

If I had the money, I would get 'The Virginia Edition' which is everything he every wrote. If only ...

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 19, 2019 11:32 AM (kJWoP)

12 The center is safe. Right Jeb??

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 19, 2019 11:33 AM (pUDQf)

13
Unfortunately, radical feminists don't care if men are suffering
increased depression from feeling emasculated. Chicks like Jessica
Valenti, who go around proclaiming "I Bathe In Male Tears"? Nothing
could make them happier.



Our best hope is that this class will eventually breed (or rather, not-breed) itself out of existence.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 19, 2019 11:29 AM (2PXwn)


They should worry more about the males that will bath in their guts when colander face mask world comes.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 19, 2019 11:33 AM (9Om/r)

14 Won't happen but I'd like to see Trump replace Pence with John James.

Posted by: HA at January 19, 2019 11:33 AM (MAstk)

15 Loose shit on the blog!

Posted by: Mr. Paul Anka at January 19, 2019 11:34 AM (ismre)

16 By the way, here in Washington today, the mess left by the women will be cleaned up disproportionately by men.

And they won't be handing out recognition for "First Woman Maintenance Worker" or "First Woman Garbage Collector." They only save those empty sexist titles for glorified positions like NFL sideline judges and military flag officers. And when they do, it only highlights the fact that they are not equal to men. If you are equal, you don't need to give yourself an award for doing what men have been doing for centuries.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 19, 2019 11:34 AM (ZxU8C)

17 Barely got through Vic's links on the EMT, and was heading for the fun one when I saw this was nood.

Well, let me tell you, I have not yet had enough coffee to read all that serious verbiage above.

Actually, I did and my coffee got cold.

This mascu-femin confoundery? "It's just a phase they're going through." Nature will win.

Posted by: mindful webworker - I saw Vasopressin open for Iron Butterfly in an alternate reality at January 19, 2019 11:35 AM (bVtr0)

18 IMO one of the greatest tests of character is 'can you admit when you were wrong'.

Many cannot.

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MUELLER'S OFFICE: The BuzzFeed article is "not accurate."

CHRIS MATTHEWS: Not accurate doesn't mean it's not true.

-
Yeah, Chris, it kinda does.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 19, 2019 11:35 AM (+y/Ru)

19
CHRIS MATTHEWS: Not accurate doesn't mean it's not true.

Where have I heard that before?

Posted by: Dan Rather at January 19, 2019 11:36 AM (ZxU8C)

20 I'm most dismayed that this process of feminizing men and the attack on masculinity has been going on for a long, long time. Which tells me this is a coordinated message being sent by someone or some group. So the question is who and for what purpose.

And in the end, I always come back to socialism (re: communism) needing to emasculate and feminize a population in order to control it better. Strong men would fight back, once it's known they are headed for the noose.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 19, 2019 11:36 AM (pUDQf)

21 Oh, anonymous poster, close-tag needed for centering.

Really, who?

Posted by: mindful webworker - trust me at January 19, 2019 11:36 AM (bVtr0)

22 How can anyone claim that the APA is being scientific? It's rankly political.

Wasn't that long ago that it defined homosexuality as an illness.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 11:38 AM (1UZdv)

23 Sorry about being so self-centered today.

Posted by: KT at January 19, 2019 11:38 AM (BVQ+1)

24 Left margin gravitational generators are back on line, Captain.

Posted by: Montgomery Scott at January 19, 2019 11:38 AM (ZxU8C)

25 Ask yourself, what positive public function does the APA provide? Nope, I can't think of any, either.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 19, 2019 11:38 AM (V2Yro)

26 And now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to donate blood.
Posted by: Captain Obvious
----Fight Club?

Posted by: Tonypete at January 19, 2019 11:39 AM (9rIkM)

27 Morning all.

Posted by: Darth Randall at January 19, 2019 11:40 AM (p0nVR)

28
MATTHEWS: Not accurate doesn't mean it's not true.


When PDT isn't accurate it's a lie, when a notorious drunk isn't accurate it could be true.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 19, 2019 11:41 AM (TAmPV)

29 Yes, this is the Thread Before the Gardening Thread.

Well, then you must be...........

Posted by: JT at January 19, 2019 11:42 AM (V4Ks2)

30 I would like to see the APA conduct a study of how many murderers were under the "care" of a psychologist at the time they killed someone.

99% of psychologists are quacks. The other 1 percent are merely communication and mediation specialists for human conflict.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 19, 2019 11:42 AM (ZxU8C)

31 Can the APA point to a single person they have cure?

Before the insurance money ran out?

Posted by: Diogenes at January 19, 2019 11:42 AM (0tfLf)

32 Boys and men produce far more testosterone, which is associated biologically and behaviorally with increased aggression and competitiveness. They also produce more vasopressin, a hormone originating in the brain that makes men aggressively protective of their loved ones.

We must lobby for mandatory soy ingestion for the Western white devils, so that they will no longer prevent the servants of Allah from having access to their loved ones! This injustice can no longer be tolerated and, praise Allah, one day America will be like Rotherham.

Will will no longer tolerate this oppression. It's called vasoppressin for a reason, folks.

Posted by: Mahmoud Mohammed Muhammad at January 19, 2019 11:42 AM (/qEW2)

33 Happily, it seems Gillette was just bullshitting us with their ridiculous ad, or maybe this contemporaneous Las Vegas promotional effort is the bullshit one. Who knows.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yazrfnpb

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry at January 19, 2019 11:42 AM (Z216Q)

34 My opinion, which I can't say out loud anywhere, is that this APA thing is more of a nothingburger, because it's not really about what it's about.

It's more about the fact that psychologists are feeling more and more marginalized, by a society that doesn't value its work, primarily because psychology schools are churning out robots who think therapy is about applying a paint by numbers "treatment plan" for what ails people.

So if anything, this APA guideline is more a "#metoo" document, meant to give them relevance in a world that is increasingly listening to other voices, from other disciplines, who have been, if anything, mouthing these platitudes for decades.

That's how it reads to me: A decades old perspective on "toxic masculinity" that seems to think the world is made up of wife beaters, Mad Men type patriarchy in America's offices and board rooms, and schoolyards of bullies beating the shit out of less "manly" boys.

Yeah, ladies, you would have had a point, if you came out with this document in the 60s or 70s. Welcome to the 21st century though. You won. You've created a generation of soibois, and now you're waiting for the rest of us to die off. Good luck with that.

APA, what cowards and fools you are.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 19, 2019 11:42 AM (cY3LT)

35
The so-called 'War on Women' was always projection from the left.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 19, 2019 11:43 AM (jYje5)

36 Montgomery Scott #24:
Left margin gravitational generators are back on line, Captain.

Good work, Mister Scott.

Now Ururu can finish making our sammiches.

Posted by: Toxically Masculine James T. Kirk in the sack with another gorgeous extraterrestrial at January 19, 2019 11:43 AM (7iRTY)

37 I had never heard of this vasopressin. It makes sense, though. People can heap calumny on me, do underhanded things, etc. I forgive and move on, as long as they stop short of hitting or stealing.

The moment someone messes with someone I care about, even verbally, then GTFO the way. It's going to be bad, and it could be "blackout rage" bad.

Maybe I have too much of that stuff.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 19, 2019 11:44 AM (kpBpD)

38 Yep.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 19, 2019 11:45 AM (VarTq)

39 Has the APA conducted a study on the adverse affects of recreational marijuana?

No?

Why would they oppose drug abuse?

It is the source of billions of dollars in rehab "care" and prescription drugs that psychiatrists can prescribe to replace the drugs that their patients are addicted to.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 19, 2019 11:45 AM (ZxU8C)

40

Unicorn Armpit Hair Is a Harbinger of How Bad Things Can Get in 2019

https://tinyurl.com/ybrn62sx

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 19, 2019 11:45 AM (aKsyK)

41 Trump at 4 pm/

Word is that he'll offer Nancy something on DACA amnesty tied to full Wall funding.

I like it. Most DACAs were never going to get deported.

Nancy has to give Trump his Wall "for the children"

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 11:46 AM (1UZdv)

42 33 Happily, it seems Gillette was just bullshitting us with their
ridiculous ad, or maybe this contemporaneous Las Vegas promotional
effort is the bullshit one. Who knows.

-------------------

Now I see someone on twitter claiming one picture is from 2013 and not the CES Show in Lost Wages, so perhaps Gillette has indeed evolved to Wokeness in the subsequent years.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry at January 19, 2019 11:46 AM (Z216Q)

43 If the APA is running short on psychotic patients, the National Mall in D.C. is a target rich environment today.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 19, 2019 11:47 AM (ZxU8C)

44
I always come back to socialism (re:
communism) needing to emasculate and feminize a population in order to
control it better. Strong men would fight back, once it's known they are
headed for the noose.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 19, 2019 11:36 AM (pUDQf
====

It's also related to destruction of the family institution. Knock that down so you can replace it with the state.

And good morning, all!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 11:47 AM (W04rT)

45 Q: What's the difference between a "Professional Association" and a gang of bullies?

This isn't a riddle; I really want to know what the difference is...

Posted by: jbspry at January 19, 2019 11:47 AM (d/n9j)

46 Our church is doing a series now about being a MAN. Yea!

Check it out flatironschurch.com

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at January 19, 2019 11:47 AM (c1nDO)

47 Maybe the problem really is, the American Psychological Association needs an intervention and perhaps even therapy. There might be deep-seated issues that need dealing with. Perhaps something from childhood even.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry at January 19, 2019 11:48 AM (Z216Q)

48 Trump announcement pushed to 1600 hrs... Sounds like Jared has amended his offer:

$450k for a 5 foot high chain link border fence reduced by half, with the rest donated to the Michelle Fields Home for Shattered Ulnas.

Posted by: Mr. Wednesday Night at January 19, 2019 11:48 AM (ismre)

49 Years ago, the American Psychological Association decided that homosexuality was no longer a mental illness by taking a vote of its membership.

You know, just like how the American Physics Association determines what is correct in physics.

Very scientific.

The APA is now comprised of left-wing females who hate men. Christine Blasey Ford is a typical member.

Posted by: The ARC of History at January 19, 2019 11:48 AM (I2/tG)

50 Boys and men produce far more testosterone,

*******

Clearly this person never met Miss (?) Pedersen, my junior year English teacher. She taught metal shop too.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 19, 2019 11:48 AM (0tfLf)

51 Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 11:46 AM (1UZdv)



Making an unfiltered major offer in front of the people and daring Pelosi to reject it.

Posted by: HA at January 19, 2019 11:48 AM (MAstk)

52 A lie repeated endlessly becomes the truth.
-also, a lie told by a thousand people simultaneously.

Posted by: jbspry at January 19, 2019 11:48 AM (d/n9j)

53 "Toxic masculinity" comes from the worst possible stereotype of men as wife-beating knuckle draggers, as seen on the Lifetime Channel.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 19, 2019 11:49 AM (VarTq)

54 The simple fact is that Manly Men are very hard to control.

They either end up IN Control, or will break away from the norms of Society.

So, the key to a 'safe' Feminized Society, is to get rid of Manly Men... because otherwise BIOLOGY and Natural Law will raise its ugly head.

There are various ways to increase Testosterone..

One of them, is winning itself. If you Win, you get an increase... its your bodies way of rewarding the win. Which is why kids are now given participation trophies.

Another is exercising large muscle groups... which is why we are all supposed to do yoga now...

And another is to eat RED MEAT... which is why we were told to eat Carbs, and Chicken which is laced with female hormones.

Posted by: Don Q at January 19, 2019 11:49 AM (NgKpN)

55 Robert Bork was a prophet. He nailed all this bullshit in Slouching Toward Gomorrah.

Posted by: Old Dude at January 19, 2019 11:49 AM (LGXGf)

56 Shorter post: Hey APA, your shits all retarded!

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry at January 19, 2019 11:50 AM (Z216Q)

57 "Toxic masculinity" comes from the worst possible stereotype of men as wife-beating knuckle draggers, as seen on the Lifetime Channel.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 19, 2019 11:49 AM (VarTq)



You mean the Man Hate Channel. All man hating all the time

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 19, 2019 11:50 AM (SiINZ)

58
Boys and men produce far more testosterone, which is associated
biologically and behaviorally with increased aggression and
competitiveness. They also produce more vasopressin, a hormone
originating in the brain that makes men aggressively protective of their
loved ones.

====

I hope we're all willing to accept science-based cases like this. I mean, there's a scientific, biological case to be made that men and women need each other.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 11:50 AM (W04rT)

59 Is anyone "whiter" than Gillibrand. She looks like a ghost.

And she sounds like a 12-year old.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 11:50 AM (1UZdv)

60

They also produce more vasopressin, a hormone originating in the brain that makes men aggressively protective of their loved ones.



See H8ters men have opressin in their hormones

Posted by: Evergreen College Grad at January 19, 2019 11:50 AM (TAmPV)

61 Chances are the woman will vote Democrat and continue to do so, so that people like her rescuer will be x-ed out of existence. Yet we need to import more like her into this country until we are overrun by them. The good driven out that the worthless and evil may flourish. The Democrats see a field of orchids or roses. They systematically root them out and replace them with skunk cabbage and brambles and ask us to believe the latter is nobler and more beautiful than the former.

No matter how relentless their propaganda campaigns, I can't bring myself to lie to myself on that scale. The ophthalmologist doesn't exist who can make rose colored glasses in a prescription strong enough to make that possible.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 19, 2019 11:52 AM (/qEW2)

62 Say, I really like this post. Mind if I borrow it?

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 19, 2019 11:53 AM (UGqF8)

63 The craziest part of this particular craziness from the APA (the group that tried to normalize pedophilia in the last DSM) is can you imagine the attchs they would have suffered... the career ruination that would have occurred... if they had tried to put out guidelines saying femininity was pathological because it is weaker and less assertive when compared to men?

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at January 19, 2019 11:53 AM (F/KeJ)

64
O/T - the Paris police are a lot less confrontational this week. I guess they've been getting slammed for all the injuries they've been causing. One guy is in a coma near death after getting whacked in the back of the head with flash bang ball. A young woman lost an eye, and there are nearly a hundred pictures of facial and head injuries.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 19, 2019 11:53 AM (jYje5)

65 Say, I really like this post. Mind if I borrow it?

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 19, 2019 11:53 AM (UGqF

You can rent it.

Posted by: BignJames at January 19, 2019 11:55 AM (cxHbL)

66 Happily, it seems Gillette was just bullshitting us with their
ridiculous ad, or maybe this contemporaneous Las Vegas promotional
effort is the bullshit one. Who knows.

-------------------

Now I see someone on twitter claiming one picture is from 2013 and not the CES Show in Lost Wages, so perhaps Gillette has indeed evolved to Wokeness in the subsequent years.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry at January 19, 2019 11:46 AM (Z216Q)


"Evolved to Wokeness" = Someone in the board room got caught pinching the behinds of the steno pool girls.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 19, 2019 11:55 AM (cY3LT)

67 I hope we're all willing to accept science-based cases like this. I mean, there's a scientific, biological case to be made that men and women need each other.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 11:50 AM (W04rT)

You are talking about the same folks who believe in Global Warming... the ones who fabricated and changed Historic data, to try to prove a false point.

And for the vast majority of Americans, it worked.

Posted by: Don Q at January 19, 2019 11:55 AM (NgKpN)

68 Someone set ups up the Toxicity!

Posted by: APA at January 19, 2019 11:55 AM (yQpMk)

69
Word is that he'll offer Nancy something on DACA amnesty tied to full Wall funding.




Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 11:46 AM (1UZdv)


====

I thought he already made that offer and Nancy already rejected it. Anyways, the talk is supposably (as my Philadelphia cousins say) about the shutdown, too.


Scott Adams has another idea: Trump should say he'll reopen the government if the Democrats just give him THEIR fucking plan for border security. Just give him their wall-free plan that achieves border security, and he'll negotiate from that. With a reopened government.


I don't think anyone's noticed that the Democrats have actually failed to produce a genuine plan yet. Party of No, you know.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 11:56 AM (W04rT)

70 Now I see someone on twitter claiming one picture is from 2013 and not
the CES Show in Lost Wages, so perhaps Gillette has indeed evolved to
Wokeness in the subsequent years.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry at January 19, 2019 11:46 AM (Z216Q)


Because democrats and liberals never have their lives and careers destroyed, when they can be used as a weapon.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 19, 2019 11:56 AM (mUa7G)

71 Babylon Bee:
Trump Threatens To Cancel Pelosi's Netflix Subscription

https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-threatens-to-

cancel-pelosis-netflix-subscription

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 11:56 AM (1UZdv)

72 And another is to eat RED MEAT... which is why we were told to eat Carbs, and Chicken which is laced with female hormones.


Posted by: Don Q at January 19, 2019 11:49 AM (NgKpN)


Dang, I was going to get Chick-fil-Afor lunch.

Posted by: Some Jackass at January 19, 2019 11:57 AM (9gHOW)

73 Unfortunately, it's a boy. You can keep it if you want, but the law requires that it be castrated before we can loose it on the world. We sent you an e-mail, swipe with your decision.

There's also an option to get the father chopped while we're at it. Again, swipe.

Posted by: ro-man at January 19, 2019 11:57 AM (RuIsu)

74 Please read my impassioned defense of Robert Mueller and my many tweets advocating on behalf of Jonah "Integrity Is MyWall!" Goldberg
Please click.

Posted by: David French, the Atlantic at January 19, 2019 11:57 AM (Z216Q)

75
Is anyone "whiter" than Gillibrand. She looks like a ghost.



And she sounds like a 12-year old.Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 11:50 AM (1UZdv

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Hahaha, if she gets on a stage to debate with Trump, he'll melt her with testosterone rays.

Yeah, I already said that the other night, but it really belongs on this thread.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 11:57 AM (W04rT)

76
Say, I really like this post. Mind if I borrow it?

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 19, 2019 11:53 AM (UGqF


If Jonah Goldberg ever writes an article apologising for being such a two bit hack he'll blame it on being a Kaboom Kid.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 19, 2019 11:58 AM (TAmPV)

77 Criticize the APA if you will, but they won't be cowed into taking down the bust of Trofim Lysenko in their lobby!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 19, 2019 11:59 AM (UGqF8)

78 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 11:56 AM (W04rT)

IN 2006 George Bush signed the Secure Fence Act which allocated $50 Billion for a border Fence.

This fence was never built, BUT there was no sunset clause on the bill.

Ergo, by law Congress has already appropriated 50 Billion for the Wall... Trump just needs to realize it and play that card.

Posted by: Don Q at January 19, 2019 11:59 AM (NgKpN)

79 IN 2006 George Bush signed the Secure Fence Act which allocated $50 Billion for a border Fence.

--

Where did that money go?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 19, 2019 12:00 PM (kJWoP)

80 IIRC the DACA amnesty got complicated by a judge saying that Trump couldn't EO the end of a program created by Obama EO, even when Obama admitted that what he did was extra-legal, a ruling still in effect because SCOTUS Roberts is AWOL.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 12:00 PM (1UZdv)

81 IN 2006 George Bush signed the Secure Fence Act which allocated $50 Billion for a border Fence.

--

Where did that money go?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 19, 2019 12:00 PM (kJWoP)


Algore's lockbox.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 19, 2019 12:00 PM (cY3LT)

82 I heard from a House staffer that when they got off the bus the other day, Adam Schiff was more pissed off at Pelosi than he was at Trump. Naturally he hates Trump, but he was especially pissed that she walked them into an ambush and they looked like putzes with the media waiting at the curb.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 19, 2019 12:01 PM (ZxU8C)

83 Playskool offers to make the kids build the wall.

Posted by: ro-man at January 19, 2019 12:01 PM (RuIsu)

84 I don't think anyone's noticed that the Democrats have actually failed to produce a genuine plan yet. Party of No, you know.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 11:56 AM (W04rT)

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Yeah, they have a plan. It is based mostly on the honor system and constant assertions that having a defensible border "isn't who we are" as Americans.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 19, 2019 12:01 PM (UGqF8)

85 Now I see someone on twitter claiming one picture is from 2013 and not
the CES Show in Lost Wages, so perhaps Gillette has indeed evolved to
Wokeness in the subsequent years.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry at January 19, 2019 11:46 AM (Z216Q)

Because democrats and liberals never have their lives and careers destroyed, when they can be used as a weapon.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 19, 2019 11:56 AM (mUa7G)

It's always like this isn't it? It doesn't matter if it's being against gay marriage or building a Wall. Everything's cool as long as Democrats are on board....but the minute THEY "evolve", suddenly becoming in favor of gay marriage or against a Wall...is the new norm and WE have to go along.
Otherwise racist/homophobe.

It's the same with corporations too I guess. "Look guys TITS!! ASS!!" Then -as if n a dime it's --stop being a "toxic male."

Posted by: JoeF. at January 19, 2019 12:03 PM (NFEMn)

86 Adirondack Patriot: 99% of psychologists are quacks.

Yes, preponderantly... not just quacks, but nuts. (Find that term in your APA book.)

People who study special diets because of their own health problems don't get well but become professional dietitians, who then, in the guise of helping others, mess up other people's health.

People who study psychology to find out what's wrong with their own minds don't get well but become psycho -therapists and -logists, and, in the guise of helping others, spread their own psychoses.

The APA is just an organization of such psychos. They write the guidelines for psychos. Funny. In a fatal kind of way.

Posted by: mindful webworker at January 19, 2019 12:03 PM (7iRTY)

87 My take on the APA 'toxic masculinity' I've always been leery of Psychiatrists and the APA has just given me a damn good reason to think they are now mostly quacks. If I need counseling I'll have to join a large active church that offers that service. If I get in a place where I need to balance brain chemistry with drugs it will require a lot of research to find someone I could trust.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 19, 2019 12:03 PM (jUcoH)

88 IN 2006 George Bush signed the Secure Fence Act which allocated $50 Billion for a border Fence.

This fence was never built, BUT there was no sunset clause on the bill.

Ergo, by law Congress has already appropriated 50 Billion for the Wall... Trump just needs to realize it and play that card.
Posted by: Don Q at January 19, 2019 11:59 AM (NgKpN)

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I would not be at all surprised if we heard something about this very allocation from PDT this afternoon.

Posted by: Calm Mentor's GoFundMe at January 19, 2019 12:04 PM (ffYR/)

89 79 IN 2006 George Bush signed the Secure Fence Act which allocated $50 Billion for a border Fence.

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Where did that money go?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 19, 2019 12:00 PM (kJWoP)

It was never appropriated. Congress only gave like 1.6 billion...

BUT, the key is Trump already has authorization for a wall. He just needs to find the money.

Posted by: Don Q at January 19, 2019 12:04 PM (NgKpN)

90 89 79 IN 2006 George Bush signed the Secure Fence Act which allocated $50 Billion for a border Fence.

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Where did that money go?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 19, 2019 12:00 PM (kJWoP)

It was never appropriated. Congress only gave like 1.6 billion...

BUT, the key is Trump already has authorization for a wall. He just needs to find the money.
Posted by: Don Q at January 19, 2019 12:04 PM (NgKpN)

Sorry for the confusion above... turns out Congress authorized the wall, but never really funded the wall, and Obama ordered the border patrol to basically abandon the project.

Posted by: Don Q at January 19, 2019 12:05 PM (NgKpN)

91 FOX just said that PDT's announcement has to do with a possible deal.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 19, 2019 12:05 PM (NtglE)

92 BUT, the key is Trump already has authorization for a wall. He just needs to find the money.
Posted by: Don Q at January 19, 2019 12:04 PM (NgKpN)

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He could start by cutting off Pelosi's allowance.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 19, 2019 12:06 PM (UGqF8)

93 FOX just said that PDT's announcement has to do with a possible deal.
Posted by: IrishEi at January 19, 2019 12:05 PM (NtglE)

Then the Democrats would leak it to steal his thunder.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 19, 2019 12:06 PM (NFEMn)

94 Trump is probably going to make a proposal. I don't think there's a deal.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 19, 2019 12:07 PM (NFEMn)

95 A question for the esteemed commenters, any one here suffering from this toxic masculinity business ? I mean in real life ? Can I has an example or two, please ? Not some article, but personal example.

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 12:07 PM (bUjCl)

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 12:07 PM (bUjCl)

97 If Trump already had allocated money for the Wall, he would have used it.

Scott Adams is often right, but wrong that Trump should cave by reopening government for a promise of good faith negotiations.

Make Nancy fuck the DACA children.

Ted Kennedy asks "do we have time?"

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 12:07 PM (1UZdv)

98 *close shave

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 12:08 PM (bUjCl)

99 BUT, the key is Trump already has authorization for a wall. He just needs to find the money.
Posted by: Don Q at January 19, 2019 12:04 PM (NgKpN)

He could sell off some government owned property or utility?

Posted by: JoeF. at January 19, 2019 12:08 PM (NFEMn)

100 I heard from a House staffer that when they got off the bus the other day, Adam Schiff was more pissed off at Pelosi than he was at Trump. Naturally he hates Trump, but he was especially pissed that she walked them into an ambush and they looked like putzes with the media waiting at the curb.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 19, 2019 12:01 PM (ZxU8C)


When is the last time we had a Republican President versus a Democrat House during a government shutdown?

When is the last time a Democrat President lost the shutdown battle to the Republican Congress?

Maybe the common denominator here is that Presidents tend to win shutdowns, and Congress tends to lose them.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 19, 2019 12:08 PM (cY3LT)

101 Trump is probably going to make a proposal. I don't think there's a deal.
Posted by: JoeF. at January 19, 2019 12:07 PM
~~~~~

That's what I'm thinking/hoping too.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 19, 2019 12:08 PM (NtglE)

102 Trump is probably going to make a proposal. I don't think there's a deal."

Dear Nan... pray he doesn't alter it.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 19, 2019 12:08 PM (6qErC)

103 *close shave
Posted by: runner"

A "Gillette"?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 19, 2019 12:09 PM (6qErC)

104
FOX just said that PDT's announcement has to do with a possible deal.
Posted by: IrishEi at January 19, 2019 12:05 PM (NtglE)


Pelosi isn't in DC this weekend so and I think she would be there if he was going to announce a deal

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 19, 2019 12:10 PM (TAmPV)

105 A "Gillette"?
Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 19, 2019 12:09 PM (6qErC)

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 12:11 PM (bUjCl)

106
A question for the esteemed commenters, any one here suffering from this toxic masculinity business ? I mean in real life ? Can I has an example or two, please ? Not some article, but personal example.

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 12:07 PM


The very worst case of toxic masculinity I experienced was from my mother-in-law. She had my father by the balls and bullied him like the biatch she is.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 19, 2019 12:11 PM (jYje5)

107 Erick Erickson stumbles into obviousness and is blinded by the light.

https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1086667762238316544

Posted by: David French, the Atlantic at January 19, 2019 12:12 PM (Z216Q)

108 The very worst case of toxic masculinity I experienced was from my mother-in-law. She had my father by the balls and bullied him like the biatch she is.
Posted by: Newest Nic at January 19, 2019 12:11 PM (jYje5)


that is toxic femininity

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 12:12 PM (bUjCl)

109 Johnny Walker has joined the moonbat resistance.

https://bit.ly/2Hj6cBZ

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 19, 2019 12:13 PM (+y/Ru)

110 I dunno i think my spouses .toxic. Masculinity covers me in warmth when i feel the world is a scary place. jmho

Posted by: Bah at January 19, 2019 12:13 PM (bsBH4)

111 Yeah, they have a plan. It is based mostly on the honor system and constant assertions that having a defensible border "isn't who we are" as Americans.

No, it's based on the belief that every resident of Latin America has a legitimate claim to asylum in the United States, since the United States has done bad things in Latin America and stuff.

More fundamentally, every resident of Earth has a legitimate claim to asylum in the United States, since the United States has done bad things and stuff.

Posted by: The ARC of History at January 19, 2019 12:14 PM (I2/tG)

112 willow, quit the mishegus and start posting under your nic

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 12:14 PM (bUjCl)

113 99 BUT, the key is Trump already has authorization for a wall. He just needs to find the money.
Posted by: Don Q at January 19, 2019 12:04 PM (NgKpN)

He could sell off some government owned property or utility?
Posted by: JoeF. at January 19, 2019 12:08 PM (NFEMn)

$5-8 Billion per year is seized in the drug war.

That money is not controlled by Congress.

Move some funds around, announcing that the money from the last 2 years will be used to build the wall.

Posted by: Don Q at January 19, 2019 12:14 PM (NgKpN)

114 Runner personally? My x thought hitting me could be appropriate. But i dont find that just for men. I know women that are just as ugly

Posted by: Bah at January 19, 2019 12:15 PM (bsBH4)

115 Johnny Walker has joined the moonbat resistance.

https://bit.ly/2Hj6cBZ
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 19, 2019 12:13 PM (+y/Ru)



The SJWs have taken over all of these companies. Hopefully there is nothing left of the soon

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 19, 2019 12:15 PM (SiINZ)

116 More fundamentally, every resident of Earth has a legitimate claim to asylum in the United States, since the United States has done bad things and stuff.
Posted by: The ARC of History at January 19, 2019 12:14 PM (I2/tG)

Nope, only letting 2 of everything on...

Posted by: The Noah's Ark of History at January 19, 2019 12:15 PM (NgKpN)

117 It's just there is a lot of talk, and online stuff, but...I need to hear about some real world examples, tha't all

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 12:15 PM (bUjCl)

118 Will see if name sticks this time

Posted by: Willow at January 19, 2019 12:15 PM (bsBH4)

119 Don Q: ...and Chicken which is laced with female hormones.

*raised eyebrow* News to me. I presume, added, not naturally-occurring, as with cow's milk, for some agricultural goal? Is there not a Fowl Growth Hormone-free market?

We rarely eat bird, but I'd like to think all those fine folks dining at Chick-fil-A™ aren't being sissified.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Eat Oklahoma Range-Fed Angus Beef! at January 19, 2019 12:16 PM (7iRTY)

120 Johnny Walker. Too bad, I enjoyed (past tense) their product. And, another one bites the dust.

Posted by: Old Dude at January 19, 2019 12:16 PM (LGXGf)

121 yay Willow's back!

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 19, 2019 12:16 PM (BJlbN)

122 I win yay

Posted by: Willow at January 19, 2019 12:16 PM (bsBH4)

123 Johnny Walker has joined the moonbat resistance. "

That's funny. Totally blind ad agency and marketing departments who signed off on this... need much pointing and laughing.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 19, 2019 12:16 PM (6qErC)

124 Willow, you are making the case for the anti-toxic masculinity 'movement'.

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 12:17 PM (bUjCl)

125 BREAKING NEWS
Johnnie Walker scotch decides to cut off balls using a Gillette razor.
https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/
1086666021606473728

Shit. Someone beat me to the "breaking". Fuck you!

Posted by: andycanuck at January 19, 2019 12:17 PM (Evws/)

126 What are some of Peterson's dismaying recent political stances? I haven't paid much attention to him lately.

Posted by: McLurkerson at January 19, 2019 12:18 PM (L282n)

127 I have examples of narcissism. The person exhibiting them happens to be a man and they can be pretty toxic. They are also competitive and , assertive-qualities which have served them well in their professional career. However, I think the toxicity has to do with narcissism rather than their gender. Women can be narcissistic and toxic too.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2019 12:18 PM (AllCR)

128 I try not to let my toxic masculinity prevent me from appreciating a finely turned set of curves after I open the door for passing women to use.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 19, 2019 12:19 PM (Z216Q)

129 Isn't there an alternative to the APA, besides Scientology

Posted by: Jean at January 19, 2019 12:19 PM (sFO1P)

130 118 Will see if name sticks this time
Posted by: Willow at January 19, 2019 12:15 PM (bsBH4)

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willow, enough with this craziness!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 19, 2019 12:19 PM (UGqF8)

131 Runner. Well i do not advocate that i would prefer the case to be made. Toxic people exist.the come in @ll genders.

Posted by: Willow at January 19, 2019 12:19 PM (bsBH4)

132 I need to hear about some real world examples, tha't all"

Well, the other day, after msmouse pointed out some weeds overtak, er, growing 'round her backyard roses, I walked 'round said weeds and spoke ill of their color, intelligence, and overall appearance. May have even used some spicy language towards them.

Doesn't seem to have had much effect on them. I did feel a bit better, though...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 19, 2019 12:19 PM (6qErC)

133 I try not to let my toxic masculinity prevent me from appreciating a finely turned set of curves after I open the door for passing women to use.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 19, 2019 12:19 PM (Z216Q)

Sure. And no one rejected the gesture ? Yelled at you for opening the door or anyhing. For being a "gentleman" ?

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 12:20 PM (bUjCl)

134 Women can be narcissistic and toxic too."

USS Fitzgerald comes to mind...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 19, 2019 12:21 PM (6qErC)

135 Cicero.its the damn phone. I have to re enter every post. .im going to try to delete all history see if that works

Posted by: Willow at January 19, 2019 12:21 PM (bsBH4)

136 The March for Life in quick time still takes a long time to run...
https://twitter.com/JerryDunleavy/status/
1086617044735406082

Posted by: andycanuck at January 19, 2019 12:21 PM (Evws/)

137 If I have to listen to a lecture on toxic masculinity I only have one question: Will dessert be served? I like cookies or maybe some pie, for example.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 19, 2019 12:21 PM (Z216Q)

138 yes, rude, obnoxious people always existed. what else is new.

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 12:22 PM (bUjCl)

139 im going to try to delete all history see if that works
Posted by: Willow at January 19, 2019 12:21 PM (bsBH4)


No, don't delete history. That's where I keep all the past.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 19, 2019 12:22 PM (t+qrx)

140 I like cookies or maybe some pie, for example."

Will cobbler do?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 19, 2019 12:22 PM (6qErC)

141 The APA is low-T. They are skeered of testicles.

Posted by: Roy at January 19, 2019 12:23 PM (ABjxW)

142 Does msmouse cut back her own roses. It's too soon, but the roses in the back yard need lots of tlc. Dad let them go the past few years.

I should probably post this on the garden thread, but going to the old place to finish some stuff and get it on the market this week.

Posted by: Infidel at January 19, 2019 12:23 PM (9L2du)

143 It's just there is a lot of talk, and online stuff, but...I need to hear about some real world examples, tha't all
Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 12:15 PM (bUjCl)


What I see a lot of, are males who otherwise see themselves as persecuted, taking it out on women. Or I see "of color" peeps who take it out on white people.

As it has ever been. Those who are genuinely victimized mostly keep quiet, because speaking up can be dangerous. Whereas, those who SEE themselves as victims, are shouting from all the highest rooftops these days, because there's lots of power to be had in playing the victim role.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 19, 2019 12:23 PM (cY3LT)

144 I apologize folks, just went and did some research.

Seems that 77% of Americans believe that chickens are raised with hormones... but they are not.

I got sucked in...

Posted by: The Noah's Ark of History at January 19, 2019 12:23 PM (NgKpN)

145 I would further prefer to leave corps out of managing a society altigether. Sell products let pros do the dirty work

Posted by: Willow at January 19, 2019 12:23 PM (bsBH4)

146
I don't think anyone's noticed that the Democrats have actually failed to produce a genuine plan yet.
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Yeah, they have a plan.


It's the Forehead Manjuice no-border plan.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 19, 2019 12:24 PM (aKsyK)

147 Does msmouse cut back her own roses. It's too soon, but the roses in the back yard need lots of tlc. Dad let them go the past few years. "

She does. And a fine job, too. Her row of "knockout" roses are blooming and look just wonderful.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 19, 2019 12:24 PM (6qErC)

148 Sure. And no one rejected the gesture ? Yelled at you for opening the door or anyhing. For being a "gentleman" ?
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No one says no. Just like my Mom told me, being courteous is an easy way to get along with people.

Of course, I still say "yes ma'am" to women when they deserve it so lessons from childhood are hard to shake.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 19, 2019 12:24 PM (Z216Q)

149 #ChopOffAllDicks

Posted by: APA at January 19, 2019 12:25 PM (BJlbN)

150 Seems that 77% of Americans believe that chickens are raised with hormones... but they are not.
Posted by: The Noah's Ark of History at January 19, 2019 12:23 PM (NgKpN)


That way you can add the hormones to taste, at the table.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 19, 2019 12:25 PM (t+qrx)

151 The left loves "nature", till it interferes with their Marxist/Globalist dreams. The husband as the strong protector/provider and the woman as nurturing "homemaker/mother" had to be destroyed, along with the family unit in general, as the center for a family's traditional heritage.

CFR oligarchs modeled the "two parents working" to fund their economic machinery, where the child is delivered to village/government control. The Home is (should be) where warm family life can thrive, but not when it is just a survival zone for overworked parents, with kids being taught to turn their parents in to authorities (if they have guns, or have some Wrong Think).


The NewWorld disOrder must create chaos down to the most local level, to bring in Government Salvation. These "Lords" (of London and DC) don't want self reliance and individual liberty at the most basic units, they want Google observation scoring, used to force mandates right down to individual behavior.


They are just molding the psychology norms to serve their masters. Their "science" must serve those gods (themselves), not "nature" and certainly not the Christian God.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 19, 2019 12:25 PM (Cus5s)

152 Grandson is going to be upset when he has to find all his fun stuff again on phone

Posted by: Willow at January 19, 2019 12:25 PM (bsBH4)

153 im going to try to delete all history see if that works
I tried that once and it didn't turn out so well.

Posted by: Edith Keeler at January 19, 2019 12:26 PM (Evws/)

154 What I see a lot of, are males who otherwise see themselves as persecuted, taking it out on women. Or I see "of color" peeps who take it out on white people.

...
Posted by: BurtTC at January 19, 2019 12:23 PM (cY3LT)


Or quite often, both. Lots of... eh, "intersectionality" there. Black men, "persecuted" by the man AND their ladies.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 19, 2019 12:26 PM (cY3LT)

155 Will cobbler do?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 19, 2019 12:22 PM (6qErC)

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If it's warm that'll be just fine, thank you. Especially if a little ice cream is available.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 19, 2019 12:26 PM (Z216Q)

156 I think the underlying problem is that psychology is bullshit. It's a pseudoscience, and can be used as a wax nose to promote any ideology you want. It's not a rigorous science that would cause incorrect ideas to be discarded, or else the machine you engineer would malfunction and blow up in your face.

Psychiatry, when it sticks prescribing certain medications for, say, depression or psychosis is at least forced to adhere to certain scientific standards. But the ideas of psychology are bullshit jargon, speculation and castles in the air, like gender studies. They try to be all sciency by doing "studies" with statistics, but it's like the parody https://tinyurl.com/yaxerpxl
that also invoke statistics and draw conclusions that are ideological non-sequiturs.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 19, 2019 12:27 PM (/qEW2)

157 I tried that once and it didn't turn out so well.
Posted by: Edith Keeler"

You didn't have the big stone donut set correctly.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 19, 2019 12:27 PM (6qErC)

158 Hogmartin. I must. We can share your history one day in a momee..lol

Posted by: Willow at January 19, 2019 12:27 PM (bsBH4)

159 It must be driving the SJWs crazy that an ultimate alpha like Trump is rubbing Nancy's nose in the dirt and loving every minute of it.

Talk about toxic masculinity.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 19, 2019 12:27 PM (/tuJf)

160 Of course, I still say "yes ma'am" to women when they deserve it so lessons from childhood are hard to shake.Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 19, 2019 12:24 PM (Z216Q)

I say "Thank, you sir" when men open the door for me. I also say "Thank you" (but not "ma'am") when women open the door for me. I don't know if anyone taught me that or back in the old days people were just naturally more polite and I picked it up by osmosis, so to speak.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2019 12:28 PM (AllCR)

161 I like my masculinity toxic.

Seriously, who thinks wimpiness in men is attractive? Aside from the harpies who want a man to control.

Strength in men is a good thing, as is their adventurous nature as well as their good sense of direction, insect destroying ability and other toxically masculine things for which so many of us chicks are grateful.

Thanks to all the good men who use their masculinity to protect and improve society.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 12:28 PM (9hauA)

162
im going to try to delete all history see if that works

You plagiarized his from the Socialist Party, didn't you?

Posted by: Jonah GOldberg, Moral Arbiter at January 19, 2019 12:28 PM (Z216Q)

163 What are some of Peterson's dismaying recent political stances? I haven't paid much attention to him lately.
Posted by: McLurkerson at January 19, 2019 12:18 PM (L282n)


I was wondering the same thing.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 19, 2019 12:29 PM (cY3LT)

164 Erick Erickson stumbles into obviousness and is blinded by the light.

https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1086667762238316544
Posted by: David French, the Atlantic at January 19, 2019 12:12 PM (Z216Q)

He's wrapped up like a douche

Posted by: JoeF. at January 19, 2019 12:29 PM (NFEMn)

165 I propose that we create a federal holiday. January 18 is hereby declared BuzzFeed BuzzKill Day.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 19, 2019 12:29 PM (+y/Ru)

166 These are the same people who complained about, race, gender, inequality. Same old brew. Their campaigns lost steam. They came up with a new term. Same old.

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 12:30 PM (bUjCl)

167 Screw the "APA" and the horse they rode in on.

They don't believe in science and I don't believe in the "APA".

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 19, 2019 12:30 PM (Z+IKu)

168 Ace wrote a piece on the American Psychological Association's effective declaration that traditional masculinity is toxic masculinity.

Well, I keep seeing stuff about the Gillette ad, but I am not seeing as much commentary in the big news outlets about the APA's new guidelines, which are more important in the long run.


The APA guidelines might be "more important in the long run" for now, but as ace observes in said post:

The degrading doesn't really mean all that much to us as we just kind of ignore this feminized, maniacally-angry-at-straight-men thing that unmarried women and gay guys have turned into a near religion, but it does have some effect, especially on boys and young men who haven't learned to ignore this bullshit as sexual supremacism of lunatics.

And that's really the key. How many conservatives have any trust in the MSM anymore? Only 17%? Snake oil salesmen and fortune tellers still exist, but their harm is limited by the fact that over the years people have become more and more aware that what they're peddling is bullshit. We just need to add psychology to that group.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 19, 2019 12:31 PM (/qEW2)

169 Chique right. My guy gives me strength when im not up to it. Men also fight wars for us. And most partners are loyal to their children and family unit

Posted by: Willow at January 19, 2019 12:31 PM (bsBH4)

170 Erick Erickson stumbles into obviousness and is blinded by the light.

-
Blind squirrel. Twice a day.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 19, 2019 12:32 PM (+y/Ru)

171
I try not to let my toxic masculinity prevent me from appreciating a finely turned set of curves after I open the door for passing women to use.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 19, 2019 12:19 PM (Z216Q)

Sure. And no one rejected the gesture ? Yelled at you for opening the door or anyhing. For being a "gentleman" ?
Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 12:20 PM (bUjCl)






At least 30 years ago, Dear Abby would get letters from men who had been lectured after holding a door for a woman. She recommended that they just respond "I didn't hold the door open for you because you are a lady, I did it because I am a gentleman."

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 19, 2019 12:32 PM (eXA4G)

172 I hope all of you fine people are warm and happy today. My dogs have lost it, and require me to get my boots on and go struggle through the cold into the woods. Because they just have to have their way. No sympathy for a guy who just wants to hang out in front of the fire. Dumb dogs, don't you know its cold outside?
See y'all on the flipside.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 19, 2019 12:32 PM (Z216Q)

173 Blind squirrel. Twice a day."

They find their nuts?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 19, 2019 12:33 PM (6qErC)

174 At least 30 years ago, Dear Abby would get letters from men who had been lectured after holding a door for a woman. She recommended that they just respond "I didn't hold the door open for you because you are a lady, I did it because I am a gentleman."
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 19, 2019 12:32 PM (eXA4G)

funny, though I suspect most of those letters were...written by the dear Abby staff....

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 12:33 PM (bUjCl)

175 112 willow, quit the mishegus and start posting under your nic
Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 12:14 PM (bUjCl)

*meshugas

And me a goyim.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 19, 2019 12:34 PM (NWiLs)

176 Every package of chicken I buy has the advertisement in big letters "no hormones added!*" with a little note at the bottom "because, uh, it's illegal to do so..."

Posted by: Grey Fox at January 19, 2019 12:34 PM (bZ7mE)

177 Of course, I still say "yes ma'am" to women when they deserve it so lessons from childhood are hard to shake


I've reached the age where I can say Thank you, Miss to even middleaged women.

Another 20 years and I switch to Missy.

Posted by: APA at January 19, 2019 12:34 PM (yQpMk)

178
The perfect rejoinder to an accusation of toxic masculinity.

Have fun with the spiders.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 19, 2019 12:34 PM (eXA4G)

179 I like my masculinity the way I like my coffee. Toxic.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 19, 2019 12:34 PM (+y/Ru)

180 dammit.


I too should delete history.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 19, 2019 12:34 PM (yQpMk)

181 139 im going to try to delete all history see if that works
Posted by: Willow


You'll be doomed to repeat it.

Posted by: t-bird at January 19, 2019 12:34 PM (BuB4M)

182 Notice that none of our betters is accusing men in Muslim societies like Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia of toxic masculinity, just Western men whose masculinity is actually not toxic, so the SJWs can get away with insulting them.

It has also occurred to me that large swaths of progressive men must be scum, the way the progressive women describe men. The vast majority of men I have come across are gentlemen.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 12:34 PM (9hauA)

183 No hormones, but lots and lots of water injected.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 19, 2019 12:35 PM (yQpMk)

184 And that's really the key. How many conservatives have any trust in the MSM anymore? Only 17%? Snake oil salesmen and fortune tellers still exist, but their harm is limited by the fact that over the years people have become more and more aware that what they're peddling is bullshit. We just need to add psychology to that group.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 19, 2019 12:31 PM (/qEW2)

Yes, we know they are peddling Bullshit.

But guess what group all the SCHOOL Psychologists belong to?

The schools in which (in most States) they hold your children captive for 6 to 8 hours a day.


Which is MUCH more time than you have with your children if you are working.


Crap, I used to get about 2 hours per day to spend with my kids. Dinner, then home work, maybe an hour or so with them, then bed. Rinse repeat.

Posted by: Don Q at January 19, 2019 12:35 PM (NgKpN)

185 The problem is that all these kids that work in advertising and marketing have grown up in a feminized world, and have been marinated in SJW bullshit their entire lives. They really,really believe that the people who buy their products think just like their friends at school.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 19, 2019 12:35 PM (NFEMn)

186 I figured that this paper by the APA was a first step in declassifying gender dysphoria as a mental illness. I mean, when a man deliberately has his cock 'n balls hacked off and dresses as a woman, he's simply rejecting icky pathological masculinity and, thus, trying to improve xerself. Not sure how F->M trannies would fit into this equation, but I'm sure the APA will attempt to do so.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at January 19, 2019 12:36 PM (DTX3h)

187
It has also occurred to me that large swaths of progressive men must be scum, the way the progressive women describe men.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 12:34 PM (9hauA)







Not me!

Male feminist! 100 lb teenage girls kicking Navy SEAL ass!

Posted by: Joss Whedon at January 19, 2019 12:37 PM (eXA4G)

188 *meshugas

And me a goyim.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 9, 2019 12:34 PM (NWiLs)


mishegus = craziness; meshuga = person, ; meshugas = people

I think....

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 12:38 PM (bUjCl)

189 At least 30 years ago, Dear Abby would get letters from men who had been lectured after holding a door for a woman. She recommended that they just respond "I didn't hold the door open for you because you are a lady, I did it because I am a gentleman."
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 19, 2019 12:32 PM (eXA4G)

funny, though I suspect most of those letters were...written by the dear Abby staff....
Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 12:33 PM (bUjCl)

Something tells me that there would be different advice coming from whoever writes Dear Abby--or similar columns--today.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 19, 2019 12:38 PM (NFEMn)

190 I think feminists problem is those they choose to associate with the liars and scoundrels. If you hang out with scum. Or around people that find integrity passe . well. ..

Posted by: Willow at January 19, 2019 12:38 PM (bsBH4)

191 Lefty women think the worst of men because Lefty men are the worst of men.

Posted by: Grump928(C) reminds you at January 19, 2019 12:38 PM (yQpMk)

192 Hmmm.... T Shirt idea?

Toxic, and Proud

Proud to be Toxic?

Totally Toxic!

Toxic Masculinity built the damn world you live in, Sugar Tits!

Posted by: Don Q at January 19, 2019 12:38 PM (NgKpN)

193 MATTHEWS: Not accurate doesn't mean it's not true.


Don't even get into accuracy vs precision.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 19, 2019 12:38 PM (1g7ch)

194 I too should delete history.




You know who else tried to delete history ?

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 12:38 PM (bUjCl)

195
Lefty women think the worst of men because Lefty men are the worst of men.
Posted by: Grump928(C) reminds you at January 19, 2019 12:38 PM (yQpMk)







*snif*

That's just hateful.

Posted by: Joss Whedon at January 19, 2019 12:39 PM (eXA4G)

196 Jahr Null is always upon us.

Posted by: Grump928(C) reminds you at January 19, 2019 12:39 PM (yQpMk)

197

I and my brother were raised in accord with all those values that are currently derided or questioned.

They've served us well and neither of us will disavow or apologize for holding them.

Our children have been similarly reared, as will THEIR offspring.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 19, 2019 12:39 PM (S/hVx)

198 I guess we're not doing NOOD anymore.

Posted by: rickl at January 19, 2019 12:39 PM (sdi6R)

199 What are some of Peterson's dismaying recent political stances? I haven't paid much attention to him lately.
Posted by: McLurkerson at January 19, 2019 12:18 PM (L282n)


I was wondering the same thing.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 19, 2019 12:29 PM (cY3LT)

Eh, I don't require people I like or find interesting to share all my views. I never thought of him as a constitional conservative. I don't really know what all his political opinions are.

I think tolerating a diversity of views is important in society, because power corrupts and humans are imperfect. It's the totalitarian regressive left that's the problem.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 12:41 PM (9hauA)

200 I guess we're not doing NOOD anymore.
Posted by: rickl at January 19, 2019 12:39 PM (sdi6R)


We are. But new procedure - were are doing it directly on the nood threads now.

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 12:41 PM (bUjCl)

201 135 Cicero.its the damn phone. I have to re enter every post. .im going to try to delete all history see if that works

Posted by: Willow at January 19, 2019 12:21 PM (bsBH4)


We prefer the term "normalize" over "delete history." It sounds way more scientific and stuff.

Posted by: NOAA at January 19, 2019 12:41 PM (DTX3h)

202 I guess we're not doing NOOD anymore.


Not after an hour.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 19, 2019 12:41 PM (yQpMk)

203 My followers at NRO and twitter need a nickname. I'm thinking of calling them the Moron Horde. Whaddya think?

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 19, 2019 12:41 PM (gC2IV)

204
I guess we're not doing NOOD anymore.Posted by: rickl at January 19, 2019 12:39 PM (sdi6R
=====

What a sad, sad little man.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 12:41 PM (W04rT)

205 I don't mind spiders, don't mind creepy crawly things with numerous legs. I don't particularly like coming across a bloody dead mouse with its head almost chewed off-the work of cats. I usually ask husband to dispose of dead mouse he's around, but if he's not I'll certainly do it myself.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2019 12:41 PM (AllCR)

206 I like my masculinity toxic.

Seriously, who thinks wimpiness in men is attractive? Aside from the harpies who want a man to control.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 12:28 PM (9hauA)

There are more women than you think who do everything they can to turn their men into wimps....and then dump them when they succeed in doing so.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 19, 2019 12:42 PM (NFEMn)

207 My followers at NRO and twitter need a nickname. I'm thinking of calling them the Moron Horde. Whaddya think?



It's original, I'll give you that.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 19, 2019 12:42 PM (yQpMk)

208 And now, some recognition for our sponsors:

Crocs
J. Crew Messenger Bags
Gillette products

Posted by: American Psycho Association at January 19, 2019 12:42 PM (DMUuz)

209 Willowed Bah'd willowed from the last thread:

https://www.ulalaunch.com/missions/delta-iv-nrol-71

Look at the Live Status window, scroll down to the 8:20 entry, and read about Kara Parks. She's a steely-eyed missilewoman for the 21st Century!

It's kids running these launches today, God bless 'em.

Posted by: rickl at January 19, 2019 12:42 PM (sdi6R)

210 203 My followers at NRO and twitter need a nickname. I'm thinking of calling them the Moron Horde. Whaddya think?
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 19, 2019 12:41 PM (gC2IV)

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I think this is doomed to failure unless you also get a J. Crew Messenger Bag.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 19, 2019 12:43 PM (UGqF8)

211 I love how they tie assholish behavior in men to masculinity, yet the same behavior in women is 'empowering'.

How much federal funding does the APA get?

Posted by: McLurkerson at January 19, 2019 12:43 PM (L282n)

212 Hmmm.... T Shirt idea?
Toxic, and Proud
Proud to be Toxic?
Totally Toxic!
Toxic Masculinity built the damn world you live in, Sugar Tits!
Posted by: Don Q at January 19, 2019 12:38 PM (NgKpN)


Hanging onto this Toxic Avenger t-shirt for 30 years is gonna pay off big! Who's laughing now?

Posted by: hogmartin at January 19, 2019 12:43 PM (t+qrx)

213 I guess we're not doing NOOD anymore.
Posted by: rickl at January 19, 2019 12:39 PM (sdi6R)

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You just have to accept that you don't get invited to EVERY party.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 19, 2019 12:44 PM (UGqF8)

214 One upshot of the Gillette ad campaign and subsequent controversy is that a lot of previously oblivious whites, even those who might not agree with the controversy, will start to see the prevalent theme of "white man as the ugly villian and/or idiot" that runs throughout most commercials today. All but the most self-loathing white men won't help but feel a bit of resentment once their eyes are opened to that fact.

Posted by: kevmanns at January 19, 2019 12:44 PM (Le4jq)

215 I don't mind spiders, don't mind creepy crawly things with numerous legs. I don't particularly like coming across a bloody dead mouse with its head almost chewed off-the work of cats. I usually ask husband to dispose of dead mouse he's around, but if he's not I'll certainly do it myself.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2019 12:41 PM (AllCR

I'm single so I have to deal with icky creatures myself.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 12:45 PM (9hauA)

216 144 I apologize folks, just went and did some research.
Seems that 77% of Americans believe that chickens are raised with hormones... but they are not.
I got sucked in...
Posted by: The Noah's Ark of History at January 19, 2019 12:23 PM (NgKpN)

Well of course not! Otherwise they couldn't sleep at night.

Posted by: Caliban at January 19, 2019 12:45 PM (QE8X6)

217 You just have to accept that you don't get invited to EVERY party.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 19, 2019 12:44 PM (UGqF


right ? I'm still waiting for shibumi's wedding invite...*sniff

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 12:46 PM (bUjCl)

218
Like women would've ever invented Scotch Wiskey.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 19, 2019 12:47 PM (TAmPV)

219 You'll never believe this! I was installing some shelves and I had the drill on reverse! Hahaha

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 19, 2019 12:47 PM (gC2IV)

220 The old, toxic Boy Scouts:
http://tinyurl.com/yb6zdva8
http://tinyurl.com/yckdszu8

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 19, 2019 12:48 PM (2qPhT)

221 One vital note:

Keep in mind that the left can be SUDDENLY offended by things that didn't offend them 5 minutes ago, and they are ALL offended.

They move like a flock of starlings, never asking why they're all abruptly changing course.

But, yes, their sinister bosses WERE INDEED planning on destroying "toxic masculinity" a long time ago.

By this same strategy, they currently have other things waiting in the wings that they want to destroy, of which at this moment they will claim, "Oh, no, I don't have a problem with that."

Then one Thursday at 3:26 in the afternoon... IT'S NOW A THING! IT'S OFFENSIVE!

After all their decades of "love is a family value" bumper stickers, SUDDENLY there are employees at google complaining about use of the word "family," as it's viciously heteronormative... or something.

Posted by: RKae at January 19, 2019 12:48 PM (LurX2)

222 "Lefty women think the worst of men because Lefty men are the worst of men."


I've only seen one Lefty woman put together that it was the men of the Left who were dominating the casualty list of the #MeToo movement.

Posted by: McLurkerson at January 19, 2019 12:48 PM (L282n)

223 The left tries to play semantic games with this every time it comes up.

They use the term "Toxic Masculinity" then define it so vaguely that they can back off at any point and claim you're being ridiculous and hysterical (snowflake right wing!) when you complain. Its dare I say it, "toxic feminine" behavior, using plausible deniability to attack people who point out when you're in the wrong.

They condemn men, using this ridiculous term, in every basic masculine sense, then when called on it say "what, you like rapists??"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 12:48 PM (39g3+)

224 I love how they tie assholish behavior in men to masculinity, yet the same behavior in women is 'empowering'.

How much federal funding does the APA get?
Posted by: McLurkerson at January 19, 2019 12:43 PM (L282n)

Everything women do is empowering - eating, sleeping, wiping after bathroom use, having a period - everything.

This society is fostering toxic narcissism in females (and non gender binaries or whatever).

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 12:48 PM (9hauA)

225 The powers that be want to create a world where the roles in the novel "The Stepford Wives" are gender-reversed. They want normal white men to adopt submissive traits that are frowned upon in women and for women to adopt the aggressive leadership traits that they now frown upon in men.

Posted by: chenzyme at January 19, 2019 12:49 PM (Le4jq)

226 Dan Beard thought throwing axes was manly. He demonstrated the technique to Scouts.

Happily, he's just an old dead white guy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 19, 2019 12:50 PM (2qPhT)

227 You'll never believe this! I was installing some shelves and I had the drill on reverse! Hahaha
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 19, 2019 12:47 PM (gC2IV)


Hey Jonah, remember when Ace turned the drill on himself and bored several holes through his skull to let the evil spirits out? Haha! That sure was a thing that Ace did, that there. Kind of an Ace signature move, sort of thing. Good times.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 19, 2019 12:50 PM (t+qrx)

228 Lefty women think the worst of men because Lefty men are the worst of men.

Right, that's where the "yes all men" thing came from. They had two choices:

1) Recognize that its their side that is toxic, that its leftist "male feminists" who are horrible and reject that
2) Assume all men must be at least as bad, and since they are right wing, conservatives must be even worse.

And, living in an iron-clad bubble without contact with any actual conservatives in any casual setting, they can invent whatever fantasy they want. Dehumanizing the enemy is one of the first tools of tyranny.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 12:50 PM (39g3+)

229 Everything women do is empowering - eating, sleeping, wiping after bathroom use, having a period - everything.
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Filing their nails during interviews.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 19, 2019 12:51 PM (w54mS)

230 runner #112:
willow, quit the mishegus and start posting under your nic


Insomniac #175:
*meshugas

And me a goyim.


Me, too, so I wondered if that was it, or some new term I didn't know - with the root word mish, no less.

Posted by: mindful webworker - mish mash of mirth at January 19, 2019 12:51 PM (7iRTY)

231 Posted by: RKae at January 19, 2019 12:48 PM (LurX2)

I call it Munchausen Outrage by Proxy.

Posted by: Don Q at January 19, 2019 12:51 PM (NgKpN)

232 The problem is that generalizations like "ambition is toxic when felt by a male" are invalid. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. Depends on the outworkings of it.

If it comes to that "envy and the desire to succeed by hobbling your competitors because you are lazy or stupid" is also toxic.

And that's the problem - situations that arise are so varied that the only way you can determine who is in the right is to examine each situation individually, not come up with some blanket evaluation based on looking at an irrelevant attribute like gender (or race).

It leads to absurdities such as "if a man is promoted over a woman, it's due to his toxic ambition and industriousness" or "if a black is shot by a white, it must be due to racism, even if the black man was trying to rob and kill him at the time".

Maybe men in the past were afraid of women, and hobbled women of more merit than they had. Now I think statements like this APA one are due to women who are resentful of men who are more successful than they are and mistake their envy for being the "victim" of toxic masculinity. Remember that woman who failed the firefighter physical tests, so she sued and got the standards lowered? I think nowadays it is the feminists who push this shit who are the envious worms trying to hobble those more qualified than themselves.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 19, 2019 12:51 PM (/qEW2)

233 As much as I liked snarky Goldberg when he first came on the scene, he has just about killed NR. He should have been kept from any managerial role, and remained a new D. Keith Mano.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 19, 2019 12:51 PM (yQpMk)

234 I guess we're not doing NOOD anymore.

I inquired about this last night and was told to #quitmybitchin.

Posted by: Abilio at January 19, 2019 12:52 PM (Tyii7)

235 The powers that be want to create a world where the roles in the novel "The Stepford Wives" are gender-reversed.

A true ground breaking, transgressive, and radical approach would be to put out Stepford Husbands to mock this cultural trend and shock people into seeing the problems.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 12:52 PM (39g3+)

236 I don't know why people get so upset with me. I'm just a harmless little fuzzball. Like those furry creatures in that Star Wars movie. That's it! I'm just a lovable Ewok.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 19, 2019 12:53 PM (gC2IV)

237 >>>...Ergo, by law Congress has already appropriated 50 Billion for the Wall... Trump just needs to realize it and play that card.

Posted by: Don Q at January 19, 2019 11:59 AM (NgKpN)
........................


At that level of accounting there is no money,
It's a spreadsheet. And similar to one making a bank deposit except they just insert the desired number into the balance.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 19, 2019 12:53 PM (ePWRo)

238 >>Filing their nails during interviews.

Deleting 30,000 emails and putting national security at risk by putting classified information on an unsecured server that was hacked by multiple foreign governments.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 19, 2019 12:53 PM (/tuJf)

239 Chuck Toad is upset that the BuzzFeed BuzzKill is being used to bash Fake News.

Chuck Todd
@chucktodd
Those trying to tar all media today aren't interested in improving journalism but protecting themselves. There's a lot more accountability in media these days than in our politics. We know we live in a glass house, we hope the folks we cover are as self aware.

-
Yeah, Toad, you're a paragon of truth, justice and the American way. Like Superman.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 19, 2019 12:53 PM (+y/Ru)

240 At least 30 years ago, Dear Abby would get letters from men who had been lectured after holding a door for a woman. She recommended that they just respond "I didn't hold the door open for you because you are a lady, I did it because I am a gentleman."

**********

Manliness Is Next To Godlinesss - a limerick

Feminists angry and crabby
Like their men to be passive and flabby
But Toxic Masculinity
Is akin to divinity
At least that's what we're told by Dear Abby

Posted by: Muldoon at January 19, 2019 12:54 PM (m45I2)

241 Posted by: kevmanns at January 19, 2019 12:44 PM (Le4jq)

I love how it was the black guy thar was stopping the white dude from hollering at the chick in booty shorts.

Because we all know that it's white men, not black or Hispanic men, who engage in this sort of behavior.

And honestly, black women, and I believe Hispanic women too, appreciate higher levels of stereotypical masculinity compared to white women.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 12:54 PM (9hauA)

242 There's no way that Buzzfeed would risk their reputation by getting something this big wrong!

Posted by: AllahPundit at January 19, 2019 12:54 PM (phoPy)

243
The powers that be want to create a world where the roles in the novel "The Stepford Wives" are gender-reversed.

The Stepford Cucks

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 19, 2019 12:54 PM (TAmPV)

244 Jamie in the Progressive ads irks me. Suppose they're appealing to Flo women insurance buyers,.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 12:54 PM (1UZdv)

245 @ 62 Say, I really like this post. Mind if I borrow it?

This should become the new "FIRST". lol!

Posted by: t-dubya-d at January 19, 2019 12:54 PM (RZWC0)

246 One upshot of the Gillette ad campaign and subsequent controversy is that a lot of previously oblivious whites, even those who might not agree with the controversy, will start to see the prevalent theme of "white man as the ugly villian and/or idiot" that runs throughout most commercials today. All but the most self-loathing white men won't help but feel a bit of resentment once their eyes are opened to that fact.
Posted by: kevmanns at January 19, 2019 12:44 PM


Ahem. Not ALL of the 'ugly' behavior in the ad is perpetrated by white males. Let's go to the tape:

There are 43 males exhibiting "undesirable" behavior; broken down 42 of these males are white, and 1 is black.

On the flip side, there are 7 males exhibiting "desirable" behavior; broken down 5 of these are black, and 2 are white.

These ratios are much more than fair, in our extensive and exhaustive experience!

Posted by: The Brattleboro Wymyn's Health Coöperative & Feline Wellness Studio at January 19, 2019 12:55 PM (DMUuz)

247 Deleting 30,000 emails and putting national security at risk by putting classified information on an unsecured server that was hacked by multiple foreign governments.
Posted by: JackStraw
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She persisted!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 19, 2019 12:55 PM (w54mS)

248 Chuck Todd
@chucktodd
Those trying to tar all media today aren't interested in improving journalism but protecting themselves. There's a lot more accountability in media these days than in our politics. We know we live in a glass house, we hope the folks we cover are as self aware.

-
Yeah, Toad, you're a paragon of truth, justice and the American way. Like Superman.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 19, 2019 12:53 PM (+y/Ru)

Why is it a non-journalist's job to improve journalism? The sense of entitlement is breathtaking.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 12:56 PM (9hauA)

249 There are more women than you think who do everything they can to turn their men into wimps....and then dump them when they succeed in doing so.
Posted by: JoeF. at January 19, 2019 12:42 PM (NFEMn)

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I have not dated for a while, but when I was I noticed this too. I am an Alpha, and never made any pretense otherwise. This would seem to be fine for a month or two, and then the testing would start to see if I would break down. It would get incredibly tiresome, so I would draw a line. Things inevitably went South from there.

A certain portion of women want an Alpha when it suits them, but they also want a Beta also when it suits them.

Posted by: Calm Mentor's GoFundMe at January 19, 2019 12:56 PM (ffYR/)

250 Here is a short video explaining the previous launch attempt with this vehicle back in December, which was scrubbed at T-7 seconds due to a hydrogen leak:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA5p_9814C4

Posted by: rickl at January 19, 2019 12:56 PM (sdi6R)

251
Chuck Todd @chucktodd Those trying to tar all media today aren't interested in improving journalism but protecting themselves. There's a lot more accountability in media these days than in our politics. We know we live in a glass house, we hope the folks we cover are as self aware.


Way to set the low bar Chuck.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 19, 2019 12:56 PM (TAmPV)

252 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 19, 2019 12:51 PM (/qEW2)

Life is inherently unfair.

Nature is a bitch.

Some will be smarter, stronger, bigger... and to deny this simple fact, and try to create a society upon that denial, is doomed to fail.

Posted by: Don Q at January 19, 2019 12:56 PM (NgKpN)

253 It's all about the Rulers pacifying and domesticating the populace.

Posted by: davidt at January 19, 2019 12:56 PM (jGvbj)

254 Hanging onto this Toxic Avenger t-shirt for 30 years is gonna pay off big! Who's laughing now?

Now I'm envisioning a Toxic Avenger remake where he looks like the Marlboro man and fights Trigglypuff and that Mizzou prof

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 12:56 PM (39g3+)

255 A certain portion of women want an Alpha when it suits them, but they also want a Beta also when it suits them.
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And this friends, is where I find my niche.

Posted by: The Paolo at January 19, 2019 12:57 PM (phoPy)

256 Me, too, so I wondered if that was it, or some new term I didn't know - with the root word mish, no less.
Posted by: mindful webworker - mish mash of mirth at January 19, 2019 12:51 PM (7iRTY)


JJ will know from such things...

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 12:57 PM (bUjCl)

257

Chuck Todd
@chucktodd
Those trying to tar all media today aren't interested in improving journalism but protecting themselves. There's a lot more accountability in media these days than in our politics. We know we live in a glass house, we hope the folks we cover are as self aware.

-
Yeah, Toad, you're a paragon of truth, justice and the American way. Like Superman.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 19, 2019 12:53 PM (+y/Ru)

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Annnnd...Chuckie positions himself as a shoo-in for this year's nomination for Best Performance By A Pompous Stuffed Shirt Media Grandee In A Role Of Hideously Inflated Self-Regard

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 19, 2019 12:57 PM (UGqF8)

258 Posted by: Muldoon at January 19, 2019 12:54 PM (m45I2)

"Passive and flabby." Isn't this really the story of Jonah Goldberg?

Posted by: Pug Mahon at January 19, 2019 12:57 PM (FXbwN)

259 Jamie in the Progressive ads irks me. Suppose they're appealing to Flo women insurance buyers,.
Posted by: Ignoramus
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I can't see the little creep without thinking of the 'Prancersize' video.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 19, 2019 12:57 PM (YvUf/)

260 She persisted!


Then lost her shoe.

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 12:58 PM (bUjCl)

261
This society is fostering toxic narcissism in females (and non gender binaries or whatever).
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Just being female is the highest calling. Intellect is irrelevant. That is the message. Be happy you are female; there is nothing better for you. Submit.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 19, 2019 12:58 PM (MIKMs)

262
Deleting 30,000 emails and putting national security
at risk by putting classified information on an unsecured server that
was hacked by multiple foreign governments.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 19, 2019 12:53 PM (/tuJf

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And then saying "Like with a clawwwwth?" because I'm just a girl and I don't get your gadgety boystuff technology.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 12:59 PM (W04rT)

263 I try to be nice, but there are times when every man is tempted to spit upon his hands, raise the black flag, and begin slitting throats. Ahoy!

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 19, 2019 12:59 PM (gC2IV)

264
*Dan Beard thought throwing axes was manly. He demonstrated the technique to Scouts.*

____________


Gender equality is here.

https://tinyurl.com/yc3l2uaj

I would have learned a lot from her as a scout.

(You're welcome.)

Posted by: McLurkerson at January 19, 2019 12:59 PM (L282n)

265 Posted by: Calm Mentor's GoFundMe at January 19, 2019 12:56 PM (ffYR/)

MGTOW circles call this a 'shit test'.

As in, how much shit are you willing to take, or put up with.

As I've gotten older, I've recognized this, and now nip it in the bud early on...

I've actually had this EXACT conversation with the new Lady Friend. Don't test me just to test me... you won't like the results.

Posted by: Don Q at January 19, 2019 12:59 PM (NgKpN)

266 >>>Say, I really like this post. Mind if I borrow it?

Hah.

The concept of a Macguffin was known, Jonah is right. But Ace had a brilliant, original political take on it. For Jonah to repurpose the concept (Goldberg variation?) without crediting ace, NRO should be ashamed. Buckley would never have stood for it.

Yesterday I checked out the Goldberg article that repurposed Ace just to see if any of the 20 comments there mentioned the intellectual theft. (Only 20?) None did. I agree with ppl on the last thread, hound him about this on the original post and twitter, and link to the original ace article, until Jonah has no choice but to respond.

Posted by: LizLem at January 19, 2019 12:59 PM (Yeic3)

267
Deleting 30,000 emails and putting national security at risk by putting classified information on an unsecured server that was hacked by multiple foreign governments.
Posted by: JackStraw


So, Trump endangered national security when he cancelled a VIP flight.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 19, 2019 12:59 PM (TAmPV)

268 At least 30 years ago, Dear Abby would get letters from men who had been lectured after holding a door for a woman. She recommended that they just respond "I didn't hold the door open for you because you are a lady, I did it because I am a gentleman."

I was at a store when my dad literally was yelled at by some broad (I use the term deliberately) for holding the door for her. He thought it was hilarious, this was in the 70s when I was a little guy.

Nobody gets upset these days, but young women seem to think its your place to bow and scrape to them like they are nobility, you almost never even get a smile or a thanks. They breeze past like it was the bare minimum you're supposed to do for them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 01:00 PM (39g3+)

269

Feminine:
having qualities or an appearance traditionally associated with women, especially delicacy and prettiness.

Masculine:
having qualities or appearance traditionally associated with men, especially strength and aggressiveness.

One of these is "Toxic," the other has been re-defined to mean "man-hating; desire to control men."



Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 19, 2019 01:00 PM (oMMcp)

270 Just being female is the highest calling. Intellect is irrelevant. That is the message. Be happy you are female; there is nothing better for you. Submit.
Posted by: mustbequantum at January 19, 2019 12:58 PM (MIKMs)

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That's why all the smart guys are hacking off their junk and putting on dresses!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 19, 2019 01:00 PM (UGqF8)

271 Good Day, Horde!

I haven't been around for a while, and this thread seems like a good time to check in.

Did you all sit around in your onesies, sip hot cocoa, and talk about health insurance over the holidays? I hope so!

Posted by: Pajama Boy at January 19, 2019 01:00 PM (DMUuz)

272
But, yes, their sinister bosses WERE INDEED planning on destroying "toxic masculinity" a long time ago.






And we would have gotten away with it if it hadn't been for you meddling kids!

Posted by: The Spiders at January 19, 2019 01:00 PM (eXA4G)

273 On topic: Why an Entire Field of Psychology Is in Trouble

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MDNvKXdLEM

I'd amend that to "why the entire field of psychology is in trouble."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 19, 2019 01:00 PM (c9gj1)

274 Perversely, I watched both Maxine Crazyperson and AoCrazyperson this morning tearing into the big banks.

If they could restrict themselves to this, I think they would be good for America.

Big Cash has way too much power in this country.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 19, 2019 01:00 PM (yQpMk)

275
Seriously, who thinks wimpiness in men is attractive? Aside from the harpies who want a man to control.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 12:28 PM (9hauA)

There are more women than you think who do everything they can to turn their men into wimps....and then dump them when they succeed in doing so.
Posted by: JoeF. at January 19, 2019 12:42 PM (NFEMn)

So even the controlling harpies don't find wimpiness attractive.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 01:01 PM (9hauA)

276 186 I figured that this paper by the APA was a first step in declassifying gender dysphoria as a mental illness. I mean, when a man deliberately has his cock 'n balls hacked off and dresses as a woman, he's simply rejecting icky pathological masculinity and, thus, trying to improve xerself. Not sure how F->M trannies would fit into this equation, but I'm sure the APA will attempt to do so.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at January 19, 2019 12:36 PM (DTX3h)


And I suspect that is about creating a future patient (and revenue) stream, since so many of those people seem worse of emotionally after their "transition".

One step close to the goal of universal therapy.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 19, 2019 01:01 PM (di1hb)

277 The concept of a Macguffin was known, Jonah is right. But Ace had a brilliant, original political take on it. For Jonah to repurpose the concept (Goldberg variation?) without crediting ace, NRO should be ashamed

If he had not previously credited Ace and admitted it came from him, he'd have a stronger argument that it was already established and public domain. But he said it was Ace's joint but he just decided he'd used it enough he didn't have to credit anyone any more.

A certain portion of women want an Alpha when it suits them, but they also want a Beta also when it suits them.

Which is only fair, men want a slut and a lady, at different intervals. Our desires are more clearly delineated and easier to figure out, but no more consistent.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 01:02 PM (39g3+)

278 "social justice" enthusiasts who consider themselves "marginalised"

Some people SHOULD be marginalized, in particular social justice enthusiasts.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 19, 2019 01:03 PM (c9gj1)

279 Speaking of toxic masculinity. Watching the 1940 Mark of Zorro. Tyrone Power has to act like a fop in plain sight to hide his true identity. Basil Rathbone as the bad guy.

Love interest wants the real man Zorro, not the faggy guy her uncle wants her to marry

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 01:03 PM (1UZdv)

280 Jamie in the Progressive ads irks me. Suppose they're appealing to Flo women insurance buyers,.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 12:54 PM (1UZdv)



Is that the fruity guy?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 19, 2019 01:03 PM (SiINZ)

281
btw, notice how being a homosexual automatically makes one socially superior because they're completely absent of all the negative social attributes, such as bigotry and hate, associated with normal people?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 19, 2019 01:03 PM (oMMcp)

282 I hold the door open for anyone who is behind me, whether it is a pretty young lady or a hulking black dude. It just seems to be the polite thing to do.

Posted by: rickl at January 19, 2019 01:04 PM (sdi6R)

283 Speaking of toxic masculinity. Watching the 1940 Mark of Zorro. Tyrone Power has to act like a fop in plain sight to hide his true identity. Basil Rathbone as the bad guy.

Love interest wants the real man Zorro, not the faggy guy her uncle wants her to marry
Posted by: Ignoramus

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I loved "The Scarlet Pimpernel" too! His fop secret identity was the same way.

Posted by: RKae at January 19, 2019 01:04 PM (LurX2)

284 Speaking of toxic masculinity. Watching the 1940 Mark of Zorro. Tyrone Power has to act like a gay blade...

BTW, anyone (no peeking) remember the name of Zorro's horse?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 19, 2019 01:05 PM (Ou6XS)

285 282 I hold the door open for anyone who is behind me, whether it is a pretty young lady or a hulking black dude. It just seems to be the polite thing to do.
Posted by: rickl at January 19, 2019 01:04 PM (sdi6R)

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Mind if we dance wif your dates?

Posted by: Hulking Black Dude No. 1 at January 19, 2019 01:05 PM (UGqF8)

286 BTW, anyone (no peeking) remember the name of Zorro's horse?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 19, 2019 01:05 PM (Ou6XS)

Travis?

Posted by: Pug Mahon at January 19, 2019 01:05 PM (FXbwN)

287 Tornado

Posted by: davidt at January 19, 2019 01:06 PM (jGvbj)

288
Love interest wants the real man Zorro, not the faggy guy her uncle wants her to marry

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 01:03 PM (1UZdv)


Lois Lane didn't give a rats ass about mild mannered Clark Kent

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 19, 2019 01:06 PM (TAmPV)

289 Posted by: LizLem at January 19, 2019 12:59 PM (Yeic3)

Yeah, that was really low by Goldberg.

I'd been trying to hold on to some of the respect I previously had for him, but TDS has really done a number on him. Case in point :

https://mobile.twitter.com/MZHemingway/ status/1086471036416258048

Remove space.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 01:06 PM (9hauA)

290 BTW, anyone (no peeking) remember the name of Zorro's horse?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 19, 2019 01:05 PM (Ou6XS)

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Tina?

Posted by: Hulking Black Dude No. 1 at January 19, 2019 01:06 PM (UGqF8)

291 btw, notice how being a homosexual automatically makes one socially superior because they're completely absent of all the negative social attributes, such as bigotry and hate, associated with normal people?

Posted by: Soothsayer

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I'm growing more and more sick of them by the day.

There isn't a single perversion they'll speak out against, because... "Well, people used to call US weirdos, so I'm not going to say that about anyone else."

Also: the weirder society gets, the more ordinary homosexuality looks.

Posted by: RKae at January 19, 2019 01:07 PM (LurX2)

292 davidt gets the gold star.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 19, 2019 01:07 PM (Ou6XS)

293 Lyrics to Meredith Brooks' "Bitch"

Yesterday I cried
Must have been relieved to see
The softer side
I can understand how you'd be so confused
I don't envy you
I'm a little bit of everything
All rolled into one

I'm a bitch, I'm a lover
I'm a child, I'm a mother
I'm a sinner, I'm a saint
I do not feel ashamed
I'm your hell, I'm your dream
I'm nothing in between
You know you wouldn't want it any other way

So take me as I am
This may mean
You'll have to be a stronger man
Rest assured that
When I start to make you nervous
And I'm going to extremes
Tomorrow I will change
And today won't mean a thing

See her entire point is this: I'm however I want to be, and you have to change to put up with me "be a stronger man" but she doesn't have to change at all. She can be whatever she wants, whenever she wants but he has to adapt to it and if he doesn't then he's weak.

This is part of the same "I had to leave you and sleep with all those Caribbean cabana boys to find myself and you can't complain" BS that's been promoted by feminists since the 70s. Men are commanded to just take it and take it and take it and women get to do anything they want, because otherwise, they're monsters and evil.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 01:07 PM (39g3+)

294
Lois Lane didn't give a rats ass about mild mannered Clark Kent
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 19, 2019 01:06 PM (TAmPV)

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Pffft. "Man of Steel" my ass.

Posted by: Lois Lane at January 19, 2019 01:08 PM (UGqF8)

295 Also: the weirder society gets, the more ordinary homosexuality looks.

AND THEY KNOW IT. Thus their embracing of all things weird.

Posted by: RKae at January 19, 2019 01:08 PM (LurX2)

296 So when do the SJW's and their Allies get around to banning rap music? So toxic, so misogynist, ewwww.

All the bitches and hos.

Where have you gone Tipper Gore......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 19, 2019 01:08 PM (Z+IKu)

297
Wymyn find all masculinity toxic
Freud would say such wymyn are cock sick
They envy the wang
Cuz their orgasms hang
On peanut butter and a poodle to box lick

Posted by: naturalfake at January 19, 2019 01:08 PM (CRRq9)

298 I hold the door open for anyone who is behind me, whether it is a pretty young lady or a hulking black dude. It just seems to be the polite thing to do.
Posted by: rickl at January 19, 2019 01:04 PM (sdi6R)

I hold the door open for those behind me. Guys open the door for me and let me go first.

I love that and always smile and say thank you.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 01:08 PM (9hauA)

299
I was talking earlier this week about current ads for 'diet counselors' guaranteeing jobs for those who complete their 'certification' course.

Have to say that my cynicism about any 'certification' courses is absolute -- from the highest academic to the lowliest. APA is included and diet counselors currently advising people that meat sweats stink and should include more soy and carbs (big family argument about that one).

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 19, 2019 01:08 PM (MIKMs)

300 "Is that the fruity guy?"

Yes

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 01:08 PM (1UZdv)

301 I guess the subtle taste of anti-Semitism is what makes Johnnie Walker Black taste like kerosene.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at January 19, 2019 01:09 PM (phoPy)

302 I hold the door open for anyone who is behind me, whether it is a pretty young lady or a hulking black dude

Yep, me too. I love the old manners though, stand up when a lady enters the room, pull her chair out, walk on the dirty side of the sidewalk, etc. Most of the time women don't exactly notice what you're doing but they like the overall feel of it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 01:09 PM (39g3+)

303 Lois Lane didn't give a rats ass about mild mannered Clark Kent

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic

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I LOVED how Chris Reeve and Margot Kidder played that. She never noticed that Clark was Superman because she doesn't look at him when she talks to him. She talks to him over her shoulder.

Brilliantly done.

Posted by: RKae at January 19, 2019 01:09 PM (LurX2)

304 ref: "dismayed by some of Jordan Peterson's recent political stances..."

I follow Dr. Peterson rather closely, and I don't see any recent changes in his political stance that anybody would find dismaying. Can you give us chapter and verse on this, with working links?

Posted by: Alan Potkin at January 19, 2019 01:09 PM (k+hJN)

305 290 BTW, anyone (no peeking) remember the name of Zorro's horse?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 19, 2019 01:05 PM (Ou6XS)

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Tina?
Posted by: Hulking Black Dude No. 1 at January 19, 2019 01:06 PM (UGqF

first one was Brad, but he wrecked him...

Posted by: Don Q at January 19, 2019 01:09 PM (NgKpN)

306 I should probably bite my tongue but I'm kinda curious as to where this "up to 30 inches" of snow is that we were breathlessly warned about here in my neck of the woods. It was supposed to start a bit before midnight last night and we have about 1/2 inch so far.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 19, 2019 01:10 PM (Tyii7)

307 Yep, me too. I love the old manners though, stand up when a lady enters the room, pull her chair out, walk on the dirty side of the sidewalk, etc. Most of the time women don't exactly notice what you're doing but they like the overall feel of it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 01:09 PM (39g3+)


IYKWIM

Posted by: hogmartin at January 19, 2019 01:10 PM (t+qrx)

308 Notice that none of our betters is accusing men in
Muslim societies like Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia of toxic masculinity,
just Western men whose masculinity is actually not toxic, so the SJWs
can get away with insulting them.



It has also occurred to me that large swaths of progressive men must
be scum, the way the progressive women describe men. The vast majority
of men I have come across are gentlemen.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 12:34 PM (9hauA)


It is far easier to force compliance on the compliant. If fact it is far easier than pulling that crap on men from a culture that will get medieval in reaction.

as for the second, that is shown day after day.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 19, 2019 01:10 PM (mUa7G)

309
g'early afternoon, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 19, 2019 01:10 PM (KCxzN)

310 BTW, anyone (no peeking) remember the name of Zorro's horse?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 19, 2019 01:05 PM (Ou6XS)

I do now.

Posted by: BignJames at January 19, 2019 01:10 PM (cxHbL)

311 Hey there, AltonJackson.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 19, 2019 01:11 PM (t+qrx)

312 Also: the weirder society gets, the more ordinary homosexuality looks

Yes, that's the entire point. Modern leftist ideology isn't about economic equality or rights any longer. They've abandoned all that stuff outside of rhetoric.

All they care about now is normalizing the aberrant, the fringe, and the perverted so they feel normal. That's their entire worldview and effort. This is the new left: making the freak normal and the normal, freaks.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 01:11 PM (39g3+)

313 I hold the door open for anyone who is behind me, whether it is a pretty young lady or a hulking black dude. It just seems to be the polite thing to do.

Posted by: rickl

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Unless it's the metaphorical door of opportunity, at which point all of us white people slam it in their faces, lock it and stack heavy furniture in front of it.

Posted by: RKae at January 19, 2019 01:11 PM (LurX2)

314
it's like wintery out there

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 19, 2019 01:11 PM (KCxzN)

315 @297 Posted by: naturalfake


*****


Heh

Posted by: Muldoon at January 19, 2019 01:11 PM (m45I2)

316 I'm watching Silverado. It's filled with toxic masculinity.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 19, 2019 01:12 PM (+y/Ru)

317 277 The concept of a Macguffin was known, Jonah is right. But Ace had a brilliant, original political take on it. For Jonah to repurpose the concept (Goldberg variation?) without crediting ace, NRO should be ashamed

If he had not previously credited Ace and admitted it came from him, he'd have a stronger argument that it was already established and public domain. But he said it was Ace's joint but he just decided he'd used it enough he didn't have to credit anyone any more.

A certain portion of women want an Alpha when it suits them, but they also want a Beta also when it suits them.

Which is only fair, men want a slut and a lady, at different intervals. Our desires are more clearly delineated and easier to figure out, but no more consistent.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 01:02 PM (39g3+)


"more clearly delineated and easier to figure out" kinda sounds like more consistent to me.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 19, 2019 01:12 PM (di1hb)

318 it's like wintery out there
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 19, 2019 01:11 PM (KCxzN)


Fact-check: true.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 19, 2019 01:12 PM (t+qrx)

319
hey hogmartin

is it snowing up north?

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 19, 2019 01:12 PM (KCxzN)

320 All they care about now is normalizing the aberrant, the fringe, and the perverted so they feel normal.
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Not just that, it must be embraced and nurtured.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 19, 2019 01:13 PM (ZMWtN)

321 BTW, anyone (no peeking) remember the name of Zorro's horse?


*********


I've been Triggered!

Posted by: Muldoon at January 19, 2019 01:13 PM (m45I2)

322 I have an old college friend who's a shrinkette.
Needless to say, she spent most of her younger life as a moonbat.

After nearly 20 years of working as a university counselor/therapist, she's done a 180 degree turn.
The devastation that our current derangement leaves in the personal lives of young people of BOTH sexes is tragic.

And, BTW, it's not just the sick rejection of masculinity.
There's also the sick rejection of traditional (often hormonally based) femininity.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 19, 2019 01:13 PM (Rxduq)

323 Thinking about SCotUS: How does Chief Justice get named? It seems like Roberts is a dedicated centrist at best, outright compromised by the progs at worst. Is there a process to demote/remove him from Chief to Justice? It seems like he will fuck Trump any chance he gets.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 19, 2019 01:13 PM (ty7RM)

324 "more clearly delineated and easier to figure out" kinda sounds like more consistent to me.

That's just because you know and are comfortable with the rules. From a woman's perspective "I want you to be a trashy slut now, but not then" is less obvious.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 01:13 PM (39g3+)

325 I'm watching Silverado. It's filled with toxic masculinity.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

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When you're done with that, put in "The Right Stuff."

Or just about anything with Bogart or Cagney!

Posted by: RKae at January 19, 2019 01:13 PM (LurX2)

326 The APA is a non-essential association of opportunists and social parasites.

Posted by: Fritz at January 19, 2019 01:13 PM (wxZSX)

327 >>> Nature is a bitch. Some will be smarter, stronger, bigger... and to deny this simple fact, and try to create a society upon that denial, is doomed to fail.

I hear Jonah Goldberg is working on a fresh story using this very concept! Working title is Barrison Hergeron.

Posted by: LizLem at January 19, 2019 01:13 PM (Yeic3)

328 314
it's like wintery out there
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 19, 2019 01:11 PM (KCxzN)


It's about time form me to move the first increment of this storm from my and the in-law's places.

Need to fill a diesel can or two, too.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 19, 2019 01:13 PM (di1hb)

329 >>>Feminine:
having qualities or an appearance traditionally associated with women, especially delicacy and prettiness.

Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 19, 2019 01:00 PM (oMMcp)
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Ha! TJM was on a tear last night.

I feel pretty,
Oh, so pretty,
I feel pretty and witty and bright!
And I pity
Any girl who isn't me tonight.

I feel charming,
Oh, so charming
It's alarming how charming I feel!
And so pretty
That I hardly can believe I'm real.

See the pretty girl in that mirror there:
Who can that attractive girl be?
Such a pretty face,
Such a pretty dress,
Such a pretty smile,
Such a pretty me!

Posted by: Braenyard at January 19, 2019 01:14 PM (ePWRo)

330 Cool post. Who wrote it?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 19, 2019 01:15 PM (EZebt)

331 Not just that, it must be embraced and nurtured.

And why? Because despite being helicoptered and protected and snowflaked, they still feel weird and nasty and guilty for what they do and how they act, and demand the world fix that, because they're not changing.

The idea that perhaps what they are doing is wrong, or at least very odd, is simply not acceptable to them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 01:15 PM (39g3+)

332 Dear Lord, please don't let me fuck up.

Posted by: Alan Shepard at January 19, 2019 01:15 PM (phoPy)

333 Nude Plantings

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 19, 2019 01:16 PM (yQpMk)

334 Cool post. Who wrote it?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 19, 2019 01:15 PM (EZebt)


I write all posts. Everywhere on the web.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 19, 2019 01:16 PM (bUjCl)

335 it's like wintery out there
Posted by: AltonJackson



***********


Can somebody summarize this comment?

Posted by: Muldoon at January 19, 2019 01:16 PM (m45I2)

336 And why? Because despite being helicoptered and protected and snowflaked, they still feel weird and nasty and guilty for what they do and how they act, and demand the world fix that, because they're not changing.

The idea that perhaps what they are doing is wrong, or at least very odd, is simply not acceptable to them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

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This is why they take that voice inside them that is screaming "We're being weird!" and projecting it on you and I.

Hey, perverts, THE CALL IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE!

Posted by: RKae at January 19, 2019 01:16 PM (LurX2)

337 I became single a few years ago. While I'm old, I'm not dead so I started looking around at the available men.

Depressing beyond words. They seem to be afraid of their own shadows.

What on Earth did men do to deserve this?

Posted by: creeper at January 19, 2019 01:16 PM (ey3Yt)

338
I write all posts. Everywhere on the web.
=====

I write the songs that make the whole world sing . . . I write the songs . . .

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 19, 2019 01:17 PM (MIKMs)

339
So which generation is going to rebel against all this shyt? It's grim and punishing as frozen hell and it's been going on for 20 years now?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 01:17 PM (W04rT)

340 it's like wintery out there
Posted by: AltonJackson


***********


Can somebody summarize this comment?
Posted by: Muldoon at January 19, 2019 01:16 PM (m45I2)

xatly, good to not get longwinded

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 01:18 PM (bUjCl)

341
After nearly 20 years of working as a university counselor/therapist, she's done a 180 degree turn.
The devastation that our current derangement leaves in the personal lives of young people of BOTH sexes is tragic.

And, BTW, it's not just the sick rejection of masculinity.
There's also the sick rejection of traditional (often hormonally based) femininity.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 19, 2019 01:13 PM (Rxduq)

They are at war against nature (and thus nature's God). That is what leftism is today. They are destroying young people's lives all over the place, as well as the lives of those who were on the outer edges of emotion and mental stability.

It's all very wicked.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 01:18 PM (9hauA)

342 Psychology has promoted a lot of wrong crap from the beginning. That's why most people kind of ignore psychologists.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at January 19, 2019 01:18 PM (t+1tH)

343 MMTA

Make Masculinity Toxic Again

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 19, 2019 01:18 PM (+y/Ru)

344 Cool post. Who wrote it?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 19, 2019 01:15 PM (EZebt)


I wrote it next week.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 19, 2019 01:18 PM (9gHOW)

345
Fake News is telling me we're getting a foot of snow tonight/tomorrow.
As long as it's not heavy, wet snow I don't care.

I have a snow shovel
And I have a cordless snow shovel.
And my old back.


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 19, 2019 01:19 PM (oMMcp)

346 From the Sidebar:

"To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield."
Quadriplegic fulfills lifelong dream of making porn [CBD]

... Well... at least not to yield before the scene is finished, at any rate.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 19, 2019 01:19 PM (Ct55T)

347 is it snowing up north?
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 19, 2019 01:12 PM (KCxzN)


*looks*

Yes.

https://stoatnet.org/190119_street.jpg

Posted by: hogmartin at January 19, 2019 01:19 PM (t+qrx)

348 So which generation is going to rebel against all this shyt? It's grim and punishing as frozen hell and it's been going on for 20 years now?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 01:17 PM (W04rT)

I blame J.J.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 19, 2019 01:20 PM (Ct55T)

349 >>>The powers that be want to create a world where the roles in the novel "The Stepford Wives" are gender-reversed.

This is why Western civilization is sterile and dying. We're approaching the time when both sexes will retreat to their respective isolated spheres where men have their Stepford sexbots, and women have their Stepford sexbots.

There was this wonderful BBC sci-fi series Blake's 7, back in the day about a band of rebels piloting the ship Liberator. In one episode they landed on a planet where the sexes had completely separated and existed in a state of perpetual war.

At the end, Avon, one of the Liberator crew members sardonically commented, "You can have war between races, war between cultures, war between planets. But once you have war between the sexes, you eventually run out of people."

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 19, 2019 01:20 PM (/qEW2)

350 They are at war against nature (and thus nature's God). That is what leftism is today. They are destroying young people's lives all over the place, as well as the lives of those who were on the outer edges of emotion and mental stability.

It's all very wicked.

Posted by: chique d'afrique

---

Have you been following the insanity that is "Queen Lactatia" and "Desmond is Amazing"?

2 "drag kids" whose mothers are fully supportive of their "choice" to be female impersonators.

Posted by: RKae at January 19, 2019 01:20 PM (LurX2)

351 What on Earth did men do to deserve this?
============================
Let's see...going through the public education system, getting chewed up in divorce court, losing a job to idiotic sexual harassment claims. And, if not directly involved in any of the above fun and games, watching said same happen to your brothers and friends.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 19, 2019 01:20 PM (ty7RM)

352 https://stoatnet.org/190119_street.jpg
Posted by: hogmartin at January 19, 2019 01:19 PM (t+qrx)

I see the sniper ! behind the red door !

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 01:20 PM (bUjCl)

353
But Fake News is saying Snow AND Sleet.
Sleet sucks.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 19, 2019 01:21 PM (oMMcp)

354
https://stoatnet.org/190119_street.jpg

looks like the worst of it is passing between us

darksky.net/forecast/42.2776,-83.7409/us12/en

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 19, 2019 01:21 PM (KCxzN)

355 On topic: Why an Entire Field of Psychology Is in Trouble

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MDNvKXdLEM

I'd amend that to "why the entire field of psychology is in trouble."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 19, 2019 01:00 PM (c9gj1)


Good grief, I got through about 4 minutes of that video. That was as much willpower as I could muster. Not because of ego depletion, but because I couldn't stand listening to a douchebag millennial with a tuft of whiskers (Gillette customer?) and pretty pretty two colored hair for one second longer.

And it took about 30 seconds to see the flaws in the so-called "studies" on ego depletion.

What's wrong with psychology is not that psychology is a pseudoscience, but that, just like the so-called hard sciences, the research being done is rather useless when it comes to applying what is being learned to the real world.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 19, 2019 01:21 PM (cY3LT)

356
Sleet is frozen rain, yes?


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 19, 2019 01:21 PM (oMMcp)

357 Having a traditionally masculine boyfriend can make a woman look years younger, duh.

I call it Beau-Tox

Posted by: Muldoon at January 19, 2019 01:22 PM (m45I2)

358 10 Back in the '90s, I was thumbing through my wife's copy of the DSM-IV and joked that eventually the APA would classify all human behavior as mental illness. Seems I wasn't far wrong.

And now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to donate blood.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 19, 2019 11:31 AM (Hx3Yn)


Although ironically, the DSM now does not categorize homosexuality as a mental illness. They're probably on the fence right now about necrophilia.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 19, 2019 01:22 PM (c9gj1)

359
So it'll be a crusty snow, not powdery. So not that light to move.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 19, 2019 01:22 PM (oMMcp)

360 I became single a few years ago. While I'm old, I'm not dead so I started looking around at the available men.

Depressing beyond words. They seem to be afraid of their own shadows.

What on Earth did men do to deserve this?

Posted by: creeper at January 19, 2019 01:16 PM (ey3Yt)

-------------------------

As I posted above, this is one of the things that got me to stop dating. Women that wanted a strong man when it suited them, but a door mat when it didn't. It doesn't work that way.

And, thank you, btw.

Posted by: Calm Mentor's GoFundMe at January 19, 2019 01:22 PM (ffYR/)

361 Bro-Tox

Posted by: Muldoon at January 19, 2019 01:22 PM (m45I2)

362 269

Feminine:
having qualities or an appearance traditionally associated with women, especially delicacy and prettiness.

Masculine:
having qualities or appearance traditionally associated with men, especially strength and aggressiveness.

One of these is "Toxic," the other has been re-defined to mean "man-hating; desire to control men."



Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 19, 2019 01:00 PM (oMMcp)

I am neither delicate nor pretty, so I've got that going for me at least.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 19, 2019 01:22 PM (NWiLs)

363 I'm supposed to get some snow this evening, then it will turn to rain tonight.

Then the temperature will plummet tomorrow, so that any wet pavement will freeze to solid ice. The Monday morning commute could be interesting.

Posted by: rickl at January 19, 2019 01:22 PM (sdi6R)

364 anyone (no peeking) remember the name of Zorro's horse?

-
When Mrs. Wrecks was a kid, the other kids would call her Sergeant Garcia because she was kind of chunky like Garcia in Zoro.

Kids can be so kind.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 19, 2019 01:22 PM (+y/Ru)

365
What on Earth did men do to deserve this?



We conquered it.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 19, 2019 01:23 PM (TAmPV)

366 Gay pron, I'll have to pass.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at January 19, 2019 01:23 PM (phoPy)

367 Although ironically, the DSM now does not categorize homosexuality as a mental illness. They're probably on the fence right now about necrophilia.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 19, 2019 01:22 PM (c9gj1)

Please, sir, "Pulse-fluid" is the accepted nomenclature.

No need to be vulgar.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 19, 2019 01:23 PM (Ct55T)

368 Have you been following the insanity that is "Queen Lactatia" and "Desmond is Amazing"?

2 "drag kids" whose mothers are fully supportive of their "choice" to be female impersonators.
Posted by: RKae at January 19, 2019 01:20 PM (LurX2)

Those parents deserve to be....

Imagine how messed up those poor boys' lives are going to be.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 01:23 PM (9hauA)

369
This is part of the same "I had to leave you and sleep with all those Caribbean cabana boys to find myself and you can't complain" BS that's been promoted by feminists since the 70s. Men are commanded to just take it and take it and take it and women get to do anything they want, because otherwise, they're monsters and evil.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 01:07 PM (39g3+)



I do have to admit that I find this whole "week long girl's vacation" thing where they abandon their family to go on a trip with "just the girls" to some place in the Caribbean or Mexico weird.

And weirder, how many husbands are okay with that.

That seems to be a fairly common thing. And cheating may or may not be involved, who knows?

YMMV but if you want/need to go on vacation without your significant other,

you probably have a dead marriage.

Unless this is some kind of hubby goes hunting for a week, and I go to the beach for a week sort of equality thing,

which it often isn't.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 19, 2019 01:23 PM (CRRq9)

370 361 Bro-Tox
Posted by: Muldoon at January 19, 2019 01:22 PM (m45I2)

Gets rid of those bro's feet around the eyes.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 19, 2019 01:24 PM (NWiLs)

371 All they care about now is normalizing the aberrant, the fringe, and the
perverted so they feel normal. That's their entire worldview and
effort. This is the new left: making the freak normal and the normal,
freaks.
---
*ahem*
Romans 1 (v18 and the following)

Posted by: Methos at January 19, 2019 01:24 PM (kOpft)

372
BTW, anyone (no peeking) remember the name of Zorro's horse?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 19, 2019 01:05 PM (Ou6XS)


Rocinante, or Babieca. Can't remember.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 19, 2019 01:24 PM (mUa7G)

373 So which generation is going to rebel against all this shyt? It's grim and punishing as frozen hell and it's been going on for 20 years now?
=======================
My two daughters generation, 18 and 20 y/o, are THE most pro-life generation since Roe. I guess that's hopeful?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 19, 2019 01:24 PM (ty7RM)

374 Ahem. Not ALL of the 'ugly' behavior in the [Gillette] ad is perpetrated by white males. Let's go to the tape:

There are 43 males exhibiting "undesirable" behavior; broken down 42 of these males are white, and 1 is black.

On the flip side, there are 7 males exhibiting "desirable" behavior; broken down 5 of these are black, and 2 are white.

These ratios are much more than fair, in our extensive and exhaustive experience!
Posted by: The Brattleboro Wymyn's Health Coöperative & Feline Wellness Studio at January 19, 2019 12:55 PM (DMUuz)


This is why I never watched the ad in the first place. Just reading comments about it is enough to let me know what it is. Watching it would just result in rage and unhealthy drinking. Know the limits of what you can deal with and avoid going over them.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 19, 2019 01:24 PM (/qEW2)

375 looks like the worst of it is passing between us

darksky.net/forecast/42.2776,-83.7409/us12/en
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 19, 2019 01:21 PM (KCxzN)


I-94 must have been built on cursed Indian burial grounds.

Lot of that going around, now that I think about it.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 19, 2019 01:24 PM (t+qrx)

376 12-20 inches of snow tonight. Weather assholes are just throwing shit against the wall to see what sticks.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 19, 2019 01:25 PM (nDe2U)

377 BTW, anyone (no peeking) remember the name of Zorro's horse?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 19, 2019 01:05 PM (Ou6XS)

Rocinante, or Babieca. Can't remember.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 19, 2019 01:24 PM (mUa7G)

Babieca was El Cid's horse. Rocinante was.. Charlemagne's? Maybe?

I don't know that Zorro ever actually named his horse, or had the same horse consecutively for very long.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 19, 2019 01:26 PM (Ct55T)

378
BTW, anyone (no peeking) remember the name of Zorro's horse?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 19, 2019 01:05 PM


Seabiscuit?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 19, 2019 01:26 PM (TAmPV)

379 It's filled with toxic masculinity.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,
--------

"Now, I don't want to kill you, and you don't want to be dead.."


-------------

Paden:
You're wearing my hat. What else you got that's mine?

Man at card game:
Mister, I don't know what you're talkin' about.

Paden:
I hope your fingers aren't tickling my ivory-handled Colt. Stand up real slow and you just might live through this night.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 19, 2019 01:26 PM (/dN1M)

380 Virginia Man Uses Flame Thrower To Clear Driveway Of Snow

https://bit.ly/2szZai3

Toxic Masculinity.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 19, 2019 01:26 PM (+y/Ru)

381 Rocinante, or Babieca. Can't remember.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 19, 2019 01:24 PM (mUa7G)


Secretariat !

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 01:26 PM (bUjCl)

382 "more clearly delineated and easier to figure out" kinda sounds like more consistent to me.
---
If I meet you in a bar I'm only looking to get laid and probably won't call.

If I meet you in church, I'm probably looking for a respectful relationship including marriage..

For my part, I don't spend much (read 'any') time in bars.

Posted by: Methos at January 19, 2019 01:27 PM (kOpft)

383 BTW, anyone (no peeking) remember the name of Zorro's horse?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 19, 2019 01:05 PM (Ou6XS)

Rocinante, or Babieca. Can't remember.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 19, 2019 01:24 PM (mUa7G)

Babieca was El Cid's horse. Rocinante was.. Charlemagne's? Maybe?

I don't know that Zorro ever actually named his horse, or had the same horse consecutively for very long.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
---------------

Cisco Kid's horse - Diablo

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 19, 2019 01:27 PM (KoKdw)

384 drag kids" whose mothers are fully supportive of their "choice" to be female impersonators.


********


KING OF HEARTS - a limerick

A poor confused lad known as Milam
Of vague gender, species and philum
His queer-mother Pearl
Made him think he's a girl
Seems the inmates now run the asylum

Posted by: Muldoon at January 19, 2019 01:27 PM (m45I2)

385 Oh, uh.. *ahem* sorry, forgot how to play the game...


Sarah Jessica Parker!


(what do I win?)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 19, 2019 01:27 PM (Ct55T)

386 Babieca was El Cid's horse. Rocinante was.. Charlemagne's? Maybe?



Don Q's

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 01:28 PM (bUjCl)

387
Yes while young men are being emasculated, little girls are being programmed to be monsters:

Girl Scouts' motto is: Unleash Strong!

Posted by: kallisto at January 19, 2019 01:28 PM (kD8Fh)

388 I thought Rocinante was Don Quixote's nag

Posted by: Muldoon at January 19, 2019 01:28 PM (m45I2)

389 All they care about now is normalizing the aberrant, the fringe, and the
perverted so they feel normal. That's their entire worldview and
effort. This is the new left: making the freak normal and the normal,
freaks.
---
*ahem*
Romans 1 (v18 and the following)
Posted by: Methos at January 19, 2019 01:24 PM (kOpft)


But in those days the arsenokoitai weren't trying to convince themselves that their perversions were a moral ideology and that people who had normal, moral desires where evil oppressors. They weren't trying to destroy them, except for the odd Roman emperor like Nero or Elagablogoblabalus (sp).

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 19, 2019 01:28 PM (/qEW2)

390
Good, we can keep talking here. I don't do gardening. Although maybe this is sort of like manure:

WASHINGTON President Trump is planning on Saturday to support
protections from deportation for some undocumented immigrants in the
U.S. in exchange for $5.7 billion to build the southern border wall,
said White House officials familiar with the decision.




God damn it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 01:28 PM (W04rT)

391
BTW, anyone (no peeking) remember the name of Zorro's horse?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.


Dinner

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 19, 2019 01:29 PM (aKsyK)

392
General Grant's horse- Cincinnati

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 19, 2019 01:29 PM (TAmPV)

393 Oh, that's right.

Charlemagne's horse was named "Fez Stomper".

(Sounds better in the original Frankish.)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 19, 2019 01:29 PM (Ct55T)

394 >>>I am neither delicate nor pretty, so I've got that going for me at least.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 19, 2019 01:22 PM (NWiLs)
--------------


Nurse ratched has your meds waiting on aisle 9.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 19, 2019 01:29 PM (ePWRo)

395
Remember there was a while when Fake News kept telling us about "gay" animals?


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 19, 2019 01:30 PM (oMMcp)

396 BTW, anyone (no peeking) remember the name of Zorro's horse?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 19, 2019 01:05 PM (Ou6XS)



Gato.



Posted by: naturalfake at January 19, 2019 01:30 PM (CRRq9)

397 Sleet is frozen rain, yes?
==================
Close: sleet is a frozen pellet when it hits the ground. Freezing is rain that freezes when it lands on a frozen surface. Freezing rain is potentially much more destructive. It coats everything, and trees start failing. Fun ensues.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 19, 2019 01:30 PM (ty7RM)

398 253 It's all about the Rulers pacifying and domesticating the populace.
Posted by: davidt at January 19, 2019 12:56 PM (jGvbj)
------------------------------
Yeah, there's that.
But at heart it is a Gnostic hatred of Creation and rebellion against the Creator.

Progressives have promised and believed in a utopia for so long and their hopes have been dashed.
Part of the problem is the reprobates (deplorables) who thwart them out of sheer wickedness.
But then there is the problem of Reality itself.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 19, 2019 01:30 PM (Rxduq)

399 Zorro's horse?


********


Alpo



Too soon?

Posted by: Muldoon at January 19, 2019 01:30 PM (m45I2)

400 God damn it.


Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 01:28 PM (W04rT)


He knows Pelousy will reject this proposal, he's claiming the space of the Reasonable One in this ongoing negotiations saga.

Posted by: kallisto at January 19, 2019 01:30 PM (kD8Fh)

401 What on Earth did men do to deserve this?
---
We've been tolerating progressives and their schemes for over a century.

Posted by: Methos at January 19, 2019 01:31 PM (kOpft)

402 Like I said above, I like the trade of DACA amnesty for those who were never going to get deported anyway.

Let Nancy turn it down.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 01:31 PM (1UZdv)

403 Thought I'd take a look at what Bing brings for news on the Notorious RBG. First link Chicago Tribune headline -

"Speak Out: Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, left lane drivers"


The brief article said how awesome RBG is and the next paragraph then went on to how sucky sandbagging left lane drivers are. I think the column is where the CT posts short comments they luv, but the headline is totally freudian.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 19, 2019 01:31 PM (1g7ch)

404 Sleet is frozen rain, yes?
================
Re-reading your comment: yes.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 19, 2019 01:31 PM (ty7RM)

405 Zorro's horse?


********


Alpo



Too soon?
Posted by: Muldoon
------------

Elmer

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 19, 2019 01:31 PM (KoKdw)

406 405 Zorro's horse?
********
Alpo

Too soon?
Posted by: Muldoon
------------
Elmer
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 19, 2019 01:31 PM (KoKdw)
----
That was tacky.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 19, 2019 01:32 PM (Ct55T)

407
Rocinante was the spaceship in The Expanse

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 19, 2019 01:32 PM (KCxzN)

408 Zorro's horse was named Tornado. davidt had the correct answer much earlier in the thread.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 19, 2019 01:32 PM (7CZws)

409 I'd prefer a bit more than just $5 billion for DACA but we'll see.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at January 19, 2019 01:33 PM (phoPy)

410 Bill Clinton's horse- Cigar.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 19, 2019 01:33 PM (nDe2U)

411 Rocinante was the spaceship in The Expanse
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 19, 2019 01:32 PM (KCxzN)


Also in the mid-1990s vidya game "Marathon" that only two other people around here ever played.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 19, 2019 01:33 PM (t+qrx)

412
That was tacky.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 19, 2019 01:32 PM (Ct55T)


He's just horsing around

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 19, 2019 01:33 PM (TAmPV)

413

Zimbabwe has imposed an internet shutdown as demonstrators protesting a steep fuel increase were attacked by security forces, according to reports.

The African country's largest internet service provider - Econet - says it has been ordered to cut services until further notice.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 19, 2019 01:33 PM (aKsyK)

414 Prince Charles' horse: Camilla.

Posted by: RKae at January 19, 2019 01:33 PM (LurX2)

415 Trade DACA for $5 bil for the wall.

Get the Trump-stacked courts to say DACA is unconstitutional.

Oh well! We already ordered the cement and rebar. Sucks, don't it?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 19, 2019 01:34 PM (Ct55T)

416 Also in the mid-1990s vidya game "Marathon" that only two other people around here ever played.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 19, 2019 01:33 PM (t+qrx)

Three.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 19, 2019 01:34 PM (Ct55T)

417 341----They are at war against nature (and thus nature's God). That is what leftism is today. They are destroying young people's lives all over the place, as well as the lives of those who were on the outer edges of emotion and mental stability.

It's all very wicked.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 01:18 PM (9hauA)
----------------------------------
THIS.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 19, 2019 01:35 PM (Rxduq)

418 >>> 2 drag kids whose mothers are fully supportive of their choice to be female impersonators.

I love drag queens, they are fun and empowering to watch. But drag performance and culture is chock full of sexuality and double entendres. To expose young kids to that is horrible.

Like Disney channel stars, those drag kids will not be protected, but become exploited, drugged out messes by the time they are teens. If they do not die first. Makes me sick and sad.

Posted by: LizLem at January 19, 2019 01:35 PM (Yeic3)

419 Really hoping PDT was going to come out ruin someone's day.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 19, 2019 01:36 PM (ePWRo)

420 Prince Charles' horse: Camilla.

==


Handsome woman

Posted by: John Kerry at January 19, 2019 01:36 PM (bUjCl)

421 Three.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 19, 2019 01:34 PM (Ct55T)


*adds Warai-otoko to vidmaster list*

Posted by: hogmartin at January 19, 2019 01:36 PM (t+qrx)

422 He knows Pelousy will reject this proposal, he's claiming the space of the Reasonable One in this ongoing negotiations saga.
---
One can hope. He certainly can't come back to his base with any agreement that formally lets the invarders, in any numbers, remain.

Posted by: Methos at January 19, 2019 01:36 PM (kOpft)

423 I might consider legal status for DACA's who will put in 1,000 hours of documented hard labor building the wall. Compromise!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 19, 2019 01:37 PM (U7Mh9)

424 I love drag queens, they are fun and empowering to watch. But drag performance and culture is chock full of sexuality and double entendres. To expose young kids to that is horrible.

Posted by: LizLem

----

What's the difference between drag and blackface?

Drag is nothing but men playacting at being over-the-top, mocking, insulting, absurd versions of women.

I would love it if society realized this, turned on drag queens and totally shut them down.

Posted by: RKae at January 19, 2019 01:38 PM (LurX2)

425 Man, what a ride!

Posted by: Also Alan Shepard at January 19, 2019 01:38 PM (ey3Yt)

426 422: correct

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 19, 2019 01:38 PM (nDe2U)

427 Hi-yo, John Kerry! Away!

Posted by: Lone Ranger at January 19, 2019 01:39 PM (wxZSX)

428 Women flocking to see Aquaman. (I must be the only female Jason Mamoa does nothing for.) Talk about embrace of toxic masculinity. (the good kind)

Then all the silly women that made the 50 Shades author incredibly wealthy fantasizing about actual toxic masculinity.

These feminist women and their male "allies" need to shut up and go away.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 01:39 PM (9hauA)

429 WASHINGTON President Trump is planning on Saturday to support
protections from deportation for some undocumented immigrants in the
U.S. in exchange for $5.7 billion to build the southern border wall,
said White House officials familiar with the decision.

God damn it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 01:28 PM (W04rT)

I wouldn't worry about it until PDT actually says it. If it is the DACA kids, he was never going to get them deported anyway. Besides, he already made that offer.

Posted by: Calm Mentor's GoFundMe at January 19, 2019 01:39 PM (ffYR/)

430
Well then, let the 11-dimensional chess game with the Dreamers proceed. I think any official tolerance of them places an order for another million or so.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 01:39 PM (W04rT)

431 >>>Like Disney channel stars, those drag kids will not be protected, but become exploited, drugged out messes by the time they are teens. If they do not die first. Makes me sick and sad.

Posted by: LizLem at January 19, 2019 01:35 PM (Yeic3)
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Throughout history performers have been considered deviants. They are and the industry is. The problem is they have taken control of the culture.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 19, 2019 01:39 PM (ePWRo)

432 Really hoping PDT was going to come out ruin someone's day.
====================
Yeah, I've had classes in situational sales negotiation. I don't remember the module about offering concessions when your counterpart isn't even talking to you.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 19, 2019 01:39 PM (ty7RM)

433 The ULA webcast is about to start.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxjaRK2S7fw

Posted by: rickl at January 19, 2019 01:39 PM (sdi6R)

434
WASHINGTON President Trump is planning on Saturday to support protections from deportation for some undocumented immigrants in the U.S. in exchange for $5.7 billion to build the southern border wall, said White House officials familiar with the decision.

God damn it.


Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 01:28 PM (W04rT)


I'll wait until I see what he means by support and some.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 19, 2019 01:39 PM (TAmPV)

435 Maybe Nancy will go for a fully funded, built wall in exchange for a lib to replace rbg on the court

Posted by: NCKate at January 19, 2019 01:40 PM (JyTrc)

436

Meanwhile, did we know about this? Laura Loomer rushes the mic at the Women's March, and you won't believe what she says!


https://tinyurl.com/y8m5fcw3

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 01:40 PM (W04rT)

437 MSNBC asking new Congresscritter "are we still going forward with impeachment?"

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 01:40 PM (1UZdv)

438
Yeah, I've had classes in situational sales
negotiation. I don't remember the module about offering concessions when
your counterpart isn't even talking to you.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 19, 2019 01:39 PM (ty7RM

====

Aka "negotiating against yourself."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 01:41 PM (W04rT)

439 I wouldn't worry about it until PDT actually says it. If it is the DACA kids, he was never going to get them deported anyway. Besides, he already made that offer.
===============
Yeah, I'm of 2 minds about DACA. At least they're a known quantity, and the bit about citizenship through military service is good, too.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 19, 2019 01:42 PM (ty7RM)

440 >>>Maybe Nancy will go for a fully funded, built wall in exchange for a lib to replace rbg on the court

Posted by: NCKate at January 19, 2019 01:40 PM (JyTrc)
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Bite your tongue.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 19, 2019 01:42 PM (ePWRo)

441 I'm going to stop starting my posts w/"Yeah..." that's embarrassing. I'm not even a Basic White Girl. Ya know??

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 19, 2019 01:43 PM (ty7RM)

442
...and the bit about citizenship through military service is good, too.

plagiarists

Posted by: Robert Heinlein at January 19, 2019 01:44 PM (KCxzN)

443 >>>Maybe Nancy will go for a fully funded, built wall in exchange for a lib to replace rbg on the court

Posted by: NCKate at January 19, 2019 01:40 PM (JyTrc)
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Which would be building the wall... and putting a huge open door in it with a welcome mat in front of it.

Posted by: RKae at January 19, 2019 01:44 PM (LurX2)

444 Meanwhile, did we know about this? Laura Loomer rushes the mic at the Women's March, and you won't believe what she says!
https://tinyurl.com/y8m5fcw3
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 01:40 PM (W04rT)



Search the phrase: Ladies in White Cuba

Posted by: Kindltot at January 19, 2019 01:44 PM (mUa7G)

445
Maybe Nancy will go for a fully funded, built wall in exchange for a lib to replace rbg on the court

Posted by: NCKate at January 19, 2019 01:40 PM (JyTrc)

Funding can be cut a Supreme Court Justice is for life.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 19, 2019 01:44 PM (TAmPV)

446 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 01:40 PM (W04rT)

NICE!

Posted by: Don Q at January 19, 2019 01:44 PM (NgKpN)

447 Trump will stick with his SCOTUS list. Unless she has a bad secret, HectoMom Amy is the likely pick

Puts Schmuck Schumer in a very tough place.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 01:45 PM (1UZdv)

448 What on Earth did men do to deserve this?

Men in general (not every man specifically) became lazy and weak, and in the desire to get laid and stop the yelling at them became craven, giving in every time. We did it to ourselves by not manning up.

I'll wait until I see what he means by support and some.

Assuming the reports are correct, he's going back to the "I'll give you DACA if you give me a wall" which isn't surprising. The man does work in construction, basically.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 01:45 PM (39g3+)

449 Replacing RBG is a big deal as it would mean that Roberts wouldn't be the swing vote.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 01:47 PM (1UZdv)

450
...a Supreme Court Justice is for life.

& then some

Posted by: Ruth Bader Ginsburg at January 19, 2019 01:48 PM (KCxzN)

451 You're welcome, Calm Mentor. I like your comments here. They're worth far more than that piddly amount.

Posted by: Also Alan Shepard at January 19, 2019 01:48 PM (ey3Yt)

452 "It's just toxic and causes nothing but problems," said Elisha Mcewen, a vegan activist and no threat whatsoever to spiders or tight jar lids. "I was sharing my feelings on masculinity with other men in my drum circle, and we all agreed that if we ever encountered masculinity, we would run far away."

The Babylon Bee having fun

http://tinyurl.com/yax79jum

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 01:48 PM (39g3+)

453 430
Well then, let the 11-dimensional chess game with the Dreamers proceed. I think any official tolerance of them places an order for another million or so.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 01:39 PM (W04rT)
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BINGO.
Any kind of amnesty immediately gives a green light to more invaders.

Remember how Obama's (illegal) amnesty for the darling children resulted in mass invasion by more "Dreamers?"

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 19, 2019 01:48 PM (Rxduq)

454 >>>Replacing RBG is a big deal as it would mean that Roberts wouldn't be the swing vote.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 01:47 PM (1UZdv)
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As weak willed as he is he might swing back to the right.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 19, 2019 01:49 PM (ePWRo)

455 Men in general (not every man specifically) became lazy and weak, and in the desire to get laid and stop the yelling at them became craven, giving in every time. We did it to ourselves by not manning up.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 01:45 PM (39g3+)

Serious question. Do most women yell at their men frequently? I've never been married, but I've generally gotten along very well with the few boyfriends I've had and resolved the vast majority of conflicts by having conversations, not yelling.

Maybe things change when you are constantly around each other after marriage?

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 01:49 PM (9hauA)

456 @430 Well then, let the 11-dimensional chess game with the Dreamers proceed. I
think any official tolerance of them places an order for another
million or so.--------------------
He already offered to let them have a (lengthy) path to citizenship in exchange for the wall a year ago. So this wouldn't be a new offer on his part. But it does send a public message that he's willing to compromise on certain points with the Democrats in order to get the wall built.
i.e. he's not the one holding the government hostage.

Posted by: junior at January 19, 2019 01:49 PM (Fp6vo)

457
As weak willed as he is he might swing back to the right.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 19, 2019 01:49 PM


he does always want to be in the "in" crowd

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 19, 2019 01:50 PM (KCxzN)

458 @455 Serious question. Do most women yell at their men frequently? I've never
been married, but I've generally gotten along very well with the few
boyfriends I've had and resolved the vast majority of conflicts by
having conversations, not yelling.



Maybe things change when you are constantly around each other after marriage?

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I've never been married.
But I can say that I don't think I've ever heard either of my parents yell at each other.

Posted by: junior at January 19, 2019 01:50 PM (Fp6vo)

459 BINGO is right, just like the slot machine, one more roll and I'll get it.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 19, 2019 01:50 PM (ePWRo)

460
Search the phrase: Ladies in White Cuba


Posted by: Kindltot at January 19, 2019 01:44 PM (mUa7G
===

Gee, I never heard about them on CNN. I thought #Resistance by Brown Not-American Hispanic Women of Color was cool and all.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 01:51 PM (W04rT)

461 As weak willed as he is he might swing back to the right.



or go full retard...either or...

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 01:51 PM (bUjCl)

462 Also in the mid-1990s vidya game "Marathon" that only two other people around here ever played.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 19, 2019 01:33 PM (t+qrx)



Three.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 19, 2019 01:34 PM (Ct55T)

Four. On my Powermac 6100.

Posted by: Some Jackass at January 19, 2019 01:51 PM (9gHOW)

463 @437

"We?". WE!?!?



*tears hair*

Posted by: Also Alan Shepard at January 19, 2019 01:52 PM (ey3Yt)

464 Babylonbee.com is top notch satire. And it's an extra treat for those of us in the Christian subculture, because their satire of Christians is hilarious but from a Christianity loving point of view, so it doesn't come across as bitter.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 01:52 PM (9hauA)

465 it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 01:28 PM (W04rT

I would take with a huge grain of salt anything reported by the media, especially if they quote unnamed people who are supposedly familiar with the decision.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2019 01:53 PM (AllCR)

466 Serious question. Do most women yell at their men frequently? I've never been married, but I've generally gotten along very well with the few boyfriends I've had and resolved the vast majority of conflicts by having conversations, not yelling.

Maybe things change when you are constantly around each other after marriage?
Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 01:49 PM (9hauA)

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In my experience while married, no. However, I don't react well to being yelled at, and had to make that clear early on.

Posted by: Calm Mentor's GoFundMe at January 19, 2019 01:53 PM (ffYR/)

467 Ack! Get that sock off me!

Posted by: creeper at January 19, 2019 01:53 PM (ey3Yt)

468 Has Goldberg challenged Wicket for control of the tribe yet?

Brace yourselves, there's a beatdown coming.

Posted by: Lone Ranger at January 19, 2019 01:53 PM (wxZSX)

469 Serious question. Do most women yell at their men frequently?

Its not just boyfriends/husbands its at the job in school, at the work place, in entertainment, at the store, everywhere. Men get abuse for being men. And yeah many women yell at their boyfriend/husband, because they can't beat them up heh

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 01:53 PM (39g3+)

470 @439 Yeah, I'm of 2 minds about DACA. At least they're a known quantity, and
the bit about citizenship through military service is good, too.
-----------------
Also, the DACA path to citizenship that Trump offered last year was *long*. It wasn't a "sign here and you're a citizen in two months" affair.

Posted by: junior at January 19, 2019 01:54 PM (Fp6vo)

471
Remember how Obama's (illegal) amnesty for the darling children resulted in mass invasion by more "Dreamers?"





Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 19, 2019 01:48 PM (Rxduq

====

Yup. No matter what Trump calls it, no matter how many restrictions he slams on them, our "pre-citizens" from down south will see only "La Amnestia!" and rush north.


And we don't even have a wall down there to stop them.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 01:54 PM (W04rT)

472 Hello, Creeper. How's Wilber?

Posted by: Ben Had at January 19, 2019 01:54 PM (7CZws)

473 But I can say that I don't think I've ever heard either of my parents yell at each other.
Posted by: junior at January 19, 2019 01:50 PM (Fp6vo)

My parents yelled at each other a lot when I was growing up, it got better when they became committed Christians but they would still argue, lol. But they loved each other deeply, despite being two very different people.

I guess that's why conflict doesn't scare me.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 01:55 PM (9hauA)

474
I would take with a huge grain of salt anything
reported by the media, especially if they quote unnamed people who are
supposedly familiar with the decision.Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2019 01:53 PM (AllCR

====

Hee hee, it would be fun if the WSJ has this wrong. That's where I got it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 01:56 PM (W04rT)

475 BTW, anyone (no peeking) remember the name of Zorro's horse?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.


Alpo?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 19, 2019 01:56 PM (c9gj1)

476 Maybe things change when you are constantly around each other after marriage?
=========================
I think the dynamic changes after marriage. If you're dating, you can always get away temporarily, or just walk away altogether. (A lot of singles fail to note that marriage is a legal contract, as well as a social/religious contract.) Predictive behavior (You always say/do/react this way) really alters rational behavior. Ergo: yelling, pouting etc.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 19, 2019 01:56 PM (ty7RM)

477 If Nancy turns down the DACA trade, she owns the Shutdown.

Media can try to spin it away, but it won't work.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 01:56 PM (1UZdv)

478 Four. On my Powermac 6100.
Posted by: Some Jackass


You are the two other people heh

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 01:57 PM (39g3+)

479 But I can say that I don't think I've ever heard either of my parents yell at each other.
Posted by: junior at January 19, 2019 01:50 PM (Fp6vo)

My parents yelled at each other a lot when I was growing up, it got better when they became committed Christians but they would still argue, lol. But they loved each other deeply, despite being two very different people.

I guess that's why conflict doesn't scare me.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 01:55 PM (9hauA)


I've seen different things. Some never argue, all seems hunky-dory and then get divorced. Some bicker, but stay together for lifetime. Depends on how well matched up the couple is.

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 01:58 PM (bUjCl)

480
Yup. No matter what Trump calls it, no matter how many restrictions he slams on them, our "pre-citizens" from down south will see only "La Amnestia!" and rush north.
And we don't even have a wall down there to stop them.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 01:54 PM (W04rT)

Traffickers in Central America will tell people that no matter what PDT does

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 19, 2019 01:58 PM (TAmPV)

481 My wife's side of the family has a lot of bitter marriages, with naggy wives. But then, admittedly some of the husbands are kind of dumb.

My side has very little of that. One brother is married to a nice woman with some naggy qualities, but not in a mean way. He seems okay with it. I would hate it.

Mrs. Mahon and I have a relationship that reminds me strongly of my parents and both sets of grandparents. Best friends, in short.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at January 19, 2019 01:59 PM (FXbwN)

482 Also, the DACA path to citizenship that Trump offered last year was *long*. It wasn't a "sign here and you're a citizen in two months" affair.

And the Dems won't take the deal, guaranteed. They already have said they won't before. This is just a chance to say it really publicly and with a bigger audience, so its tougher for the press to ignore. If that's what he's going to do. I'm not convinced he is.

As quoted here yesterday, the constitution does grant the president the power to call a session of congress and force them to stay until they deal with a crisis, and he might pull that trigger.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 01:59 PM (39g3+)

483 If Nancy turns down the DACA trade, she owns the Shutdown.

Media can try to spin it away, but it won't work.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 01:56 PM (1UZdv)

-------------------------

That offer has already been made and rejected.

Posted by: Calm Mentor's GoFundMe at January 19, 2019 02:00 PM (ffYR/)

484 New launch time 1910 UTC, 2:10 EST, 11:10 PST.

Now going into polling.

Posted by: rickl at January 19, 2019 02:00 PM (sdi6R)

485 Its not just boyfriends/husbands its at the job in school, at the work place, in entertainment, at the store, everywhere. Men get abuse for being men. And yeah many women yell at their boyfriend/husband, because they can't beat them up heh
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 01:53 PM (39g3+)

I try not to yell at anyone (aside from family members, heh). I think the only non-family/non-sig other I've yelled at in public was a chick at the Delta counter at the airport (Delta is literally the worst, they have crap customer service). And it was my version of yelling, somewhat raised voice in a stern tone.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 02:00 PM (9hauA)

486 "That offer has already been made and rejected."

But now we're in Day 29 of Shutdown.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 02:01 PM (1UZdv)

487 Counting.

Posted by: rickl at January 19, 2019 02:02 PM (sdi6R)

488 469
Its not just boyfriends/husbands its at the job in school, at the work place, in entertainment, at the store, everywhere......
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 01:53 PM (39g3+)
--------------------------------
This may be a regional thing.
I certainly don't see this where I live.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 19, 2019 02:03 PM (Rxduq)

489 @479 But I can say that I don't think I've ever heard either of my parents yell at each other.

Posted by: junior at January 19, 2019 01:50 PM (Fp6vo)



My parents yelled at each other a lot when I was growing up, it got
better when they became committed Christians but they would still argue,
lol. But they loved each other deeply, despite being two very different
people.



I guess that's why conflict doesn't scare me.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 01:55 PM (9hauA)





I've seen different things. Some never argue, all seems hunky-dory
and then get divorced. Some bicker, but stay together for lifetime.
Depends on how well matched up the couple is.
-------------------------

My parents will argue. But they do NOT yell at each other.

Posted by: junior at January 19, 2019 02:04 PM (Fp6vo)

490 Who wants to kiss the lips at night
that chew your ass all day long?

Posted by: Braenyard at January 19, 2019 02:05 PM (ePWRo)

491 Late to the thread, but I've heard the point made that 3rd Wave Feminism seems to seek, not Birkenhead Drill, but every humanoid for him/her/its-self when bad events occur. We've gone from "Women and children first" as the Titanic went down to the Captain of the Italian cruise ship disguising himself as he scrambled for the lifeboats.

Well, soft men make hard times.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 19, 2019 02:05 PM (5Yee7)

492 I certainly don't see this where I live.

Turn on your TV some time. Go to school and see how boys are treated. Its all around you, but its so much a part of the culture now its like background noise. Men are stupid, men are wrong, men are always the reason things go wrong, men are weaker than women, men are less capable than women, shut up, stop trying, stop being a boy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 02:05 PM (39g3+)

493 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DkcQ09h2Vo

Posted by: Braenyard at January 19, 2019 02:05 PM (ePWRo)

494 Ben!

Wilbur's great. Eating me out of house and home. He lets me pet him, though he doesn't like to be picked up. He bailed off the back deck a couple of weeks ago. Five feet down. I figured sure he was a goner but he landed in a pile of leaves, bounced once and took off around the garage, ricochetting off the downspouts on all four corners. He made two circuits before he wised up. I think he knocked himself silly.

How are things in God's country?

Posted by: creeper at January 19, 2019 02:06 PM (ey3Yt)

495 @483 That offer has already been made and rejected.
--------------------
My brother was arguing with me the other day, insisting that he hadn't.
So maybe it's time to make it again, and much more publicly...

Posted by: junior at January 19, 2019 02:06 PM (Fp6vo)

496 Its not just boyfriends/husbands its at the job in school, at the work place, in entertainment, at the store, everywhere......
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 01:53 PM (39g3+)
--------------------------------
This may be a regional thing.
I certainly don't see this where I live.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 19, 2019 02:03 PM (Rxduq)


Yeah...usually if that happens in public, it is from a certifiably crazy person...

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 02:06 PM (bUjCl)

497 Chique, that is hilarious that the Jason Mamoa film is doing well with women. Like you, he does not do much for me, he looks like a muscle-y hobo. But aesthetically I get why he is attractive to a lot of women.

His break out role was in Game of Thrones as a toxic male warlord that rapes his wife. But she domesticated him. I think the Grey guy in 50 Shades books gets domesticated by his Mary Sue love interest and their baby? It all goes back to Beauty and the Beast. A large group of women want beastly men they can tame. The fact they do not realize they are now trying to stamp out of men the machismo they are attracted to is ironic.

Posted by: LizLem at January 19, 2019 02:06 PM (Yeic3)

498 The APA declaration about toxic masculinity is important, because public schools will be incorporating this bullshit into their curricula.

Parents had better be prepared to show up at school board meetings and raise hell.

Posted by: kallisto at January 19, 2019 02:06 PM (kD8Fh)

499 "That offer has already been made and rejected."

But now we're in Day 29 of Shutdown.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 02:01 PM (1UZdv)

--------------------------

Nanzi seems not to care. If she did, she wouldn't have tried to go shopping in Europe for a week.

Posted by: Calm Mentor's GoFundMe at January 19, 2019 02:07 PM (ffYR/)

500 Stop pussy footing around. The toxic masculinity crap is just an attack on Trump.
After 8 years of the Kenyan and his Mom jeans,.stupid bicycle helmet, apologizing and wondering about his next cock experience the left is in shock.

Posted by: torabora at January 19, 2019 02:07 PM (Y51ZG)

501 Good grief, I got through about 4 minutes of that video. That was as much willpower as I could muster. Not because of ego depletion, but because I couldn't stand listening to a douchebag millennial with a tuft of whiskers (Gillette customer?) and pretty pretty two colored hair for one second longer.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 19, 2019 01:21 PM (cY3LT)


Yeah, I hear ya. That guy used to look normal, but then ...

There's a gal on the same channel that I cannot stand. She's got a ring through her nose, and as soon as I see her, I close the window.

Having said that, the third guy on the SciShow channel (Hank Green) is pretty good, and he is scientifically sound (or at least has been so far).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 19, 2019 02:07 PM (c9gj1)

502

Turn on your TV some time. Go to school and see how boys are treated. Its all around you, but its so much a part of the culture now its like background noise. Men are stupid, men are wrong, men are always the reason things go wrong, men are weaker than women, men are less capable than women, shut up, stop trying, stop being a boy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 02:05 PM (39g3+)


It's like they took boys are rotten made out of cotton and turned it into a political ideology.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 19, 2019 02:07 PM (TAmPV)

503 The APA has obviously be taken over by social Marxists.

- Occam

Posted by: Marooned at January 19, 2019 02:08 PM (8hRlF)

504 Yeah...usually if that happens in public, it is from a certifiably crazy person

Or on a college campus. Or at a rally. Or in popular entertainment.

A large group of women want beastly men they can tame.

Yeah this is an aspect of femininity that confuses me. They want men that they can "fix". Some control issue I guess. I mean it even goes down to "that lock of hair that falls into his face that I want to brush back" level.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 02:09 PM (39g3+)

505 The APA declaration about toxic masculinity is important, because public schools will be incorporating this bullshit into their curricula.

Parents had better be prepared to show up at school board meetings and raise hell.
Posted by: kallisto at January 19, 2019 02:06 PM (kD8Fh)


It's worse than that. California dominates the textbook market because of its size. Textbook publishers don't want different versions for different states, and so in effect California can dictate the contents of textbooks.

And you know what that means.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 19, 2019 02:09 PM (c9gj1)

506 It's like they took boys are rotten made out of cotton and turned it into a political ideology.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 19, 2019 02:07 PM (TAmPV)


To hell with this, I'm going to Jupiter.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 19, 2019 02:10 PM (t+qrx)

507 But now we're in Day 29 of Shutdown.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 02:01 PM (1UZdv)
------------


Good time to offer amnesty to Pelosi from the guillotine.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 19, 2019 02:10 PM (ePWRo)

508 Creeper, this 40mph wind has driven me inside for the rest of the day. Still trying to dry out, 'cause this place needs mowing. All the rest is good.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 19, 2019 02:11 PM (7CZws)

509 466
Serious question. Do most women yell at their men frequently? I've never
been married, but I've generally gotten along very well with the few
boyfriends I've had and resolved the vast majority of conflicts by
having conversations, not yelling.



Maybe things change when you are constantly around each other after marriage?

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 01:49 PM (9hauA)

+++No.

Posted by: washrivergal at January 19, 2019 02:11 PM (aWjrD)

510
Yeah this is an aspect of femininity that confuses me. They want men that they can "fix". Some control issue I guess. I mean it even goes down to "that lock of hair that falls into his face that I want to brush back" level.


==

This aspect, "fixing", is not unique to the feminist movement. I've seen this on both sides. It has to do with woman's personal traits, I think. How she was raised, where she grew up, her character basically.

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 02:12 PM (bUjCl)

511 @497 His break out role was in Game of Thrones as a toxic male warlord that rapes his wife. But she domesticated him.
-------------------

She did? I've never watched the series, but in the book iirc he lasted just long enough to kill her idiot brother, and then died almost immediately afterwards without doing much of anything else.

He was part of the cast on Stargate Atlantis before then. And after that ended, he starred in the unsuccessful Conan movie.

Posted by: junior at January 19, 2019 02:12 PM (Fp6vo)

512 There are scenes in GOT that some say are rapes that really aren't in their fictional medieval context.

If you get married, you can expect the husband to take the wife. It's not rape if you don't like it, e..g Danaerys before she discovers her inner courtesan. Nor is it rape if your new husband makes your adopted brother watch -- e.g Ramsey with Sansa -- it's sadistic, but it's not rape,

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2019 02:13 PM (1UZdv)

513 A large group of women want beastly men they can tame.

The problem with that desire is that IRL beast - men are not so easy to tame.

Posted by: kallisto at January 19, 2019 02:13 PM (kD8Fh)

514

This aspect, "fixing", is not unique to the feminist movement. I've seen this on both sides. It has to do with woman's personal traits, I think. How she was raised, where she grew up, her character basically.

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 02:12 PM (bUjCl)



Plenty of men are guilty of trying to turn women into their mothers.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 19, 2019 02:14 PM (TAmPV)

515 I think it comes from personal neediness. By" fixing", she will be viewed as "savior", her need to be wanted, desired, is satisfied. That empty space, you know ?

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 02:14 PM (bUjCl)

516 Yeah this is an aspect of femininity that confuses me. They want men that they can "fix". Some control issue I guess. I mean it even goes down to "that lock of hair that falls into his face that I want to brush back" level.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 02:09 PM (39g3+)

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Back when I had a dating profile, the main page had a statement to the effect of "I am 55, and not too likely to change my ways. I am looking for a woman who will accept me as I am, or not. I am not a fixer upper, nor am I a project. I will return the favor".

Posted by: Calm Mentor's GoFundMe at January 19, 2019 02:15 PM (ffYR/)

517
What if the Pelosi's counter-offer is: Amnesty for Dreamers AND Judy Garland Merrick on the Court?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 19, 2019 02:15 PM (Hqm6c)

518 In the book, Danaerys is um, rather young when she's married off to the barbarian thug. But its not rape, she goes in understanding this is part of marriage, and GRRRRRRRM goes into more detail than is necessary describing how she comes to like it. He's kind of a scumbag, Martin is. One of those stereotypical fat geek perverts.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 02:15 PM (39g3+)

519 Webcast ended. Looked like a good launch, but since it's a classified payload, live coverage ended with fairing separation.

Posted by: rickl at January 19, 2019 02:16 PM (sdi6R)

520 Posted by: LizLem at January 19, 2019 02:06 PM (Yeic3)

Haha, muscly hobo is right.

I have seen pictures of him clean-shaven with shorter hair, though, and he has a gorgeous face underneath all that hair. What's cool is he's apparently a real family man, spending most of his time with his wife (Lisa Bonet, who looks great and not like she's at least 10 years his senior) and kids.

He's not my type, but I saw Aquaman because I try to see all the superhero movies in the theater (assuming I'm aware they are out). It's my favorite genre. No chick flicks for me, unless maybe it has a hot actor I like.

For example I will see anything (short of porn) with Idris Elba. I love Chris Evans too, even though he's a leftist douche. Christian Bale used to do it for me (even in that movie with Jennifer Lawrence where he was a pudgy middle aged guy - American Gangster? - that was kind of weird), but not so much any more.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 02:16 PM (9hauA)

521 The problem with that desire is that IRL beast - men are not so easy to tame.

Well, that and when they're tame, beasts are not nearly as interesting as they used to be. This is a well-known phenomenon.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 02:17 PM (39g3+)

522 Posted by: Ben Had at January 19, 2019 02:11 PM (7CZws)

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Thank you.

Posted by: Calm Mentor's GoFundMe at January 19, 2019 02:17 PM (ffYR/)

523 Plenty of men are guilty of trying to turn women into their mothers.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 19, 2019 02:14 PM (TAmPV)

More like, they look for that, and expect that. Italians have a word for men who are attached to mommy - mamismo or something like that.

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 02:18 PM (bUjCl)

524
Are we getting a Special Thread for the President's address??

I hope Ace is around to do so.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 19, 2019 02:18 PM (Hqm6c)

525 I saw the Lara Loomer livestream that was posted upthread, now *that's* a woman whose Strong was UNLEASHED.

She also brought a bunch of illegal aliens onto Pelousy's front lawn.

Posted by: kallisto at January 19, 2019 02:19 PM (kD8Fh)

526 I don't want a man to fix. I want a full grown adult. I want to be a mother only *after *I give birth.

But I have seen one or two happy couples where the woman mothers the guy and the guy happily submits. Not for me, though.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 02:20 PM (9hauA)

527
This aspect, "fixing", is not unique to the feminist movement. I've
seen this on both sides. It has to do with woman's personal traits, I
think. How she was raised, where she grew up, her character basically.
=====

Full circle. Now biology is destiny.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 19, 2019 02:20 PM (MIKMs)

528 Plenty of men are guilty of trying to turn women into their mothers.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 19, 2019 02:14 PM (TAmPV)


Hmm. Then I wouldn't have to hide the bodies in the swamp.

Posted by: Some Jackass at January 19, 2019 02:20 PM (9gHOW)

529 Plenty of men are guilty of trying to turn women into their mothers.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 19, 2019 02:14 PM (TAmPV)

Hmm. Then I wouldn't have to hide the bodies in the swamp.

Posted by: Some Jackass at January 19, 2019 02:20 PM (9gHOW)



Norman?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 19, 2019 02:22 PM (SiINZ)

530 Serious question. Do most women yell at their men frequently? I've never
been married, but I've generally gotten along very well with the few
boyfriends I've had and resolved the vast majority of conflicts by
having conversations, not yelling.



Maybe things change when you are constantly around each other after marriage?

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 01:49 PM (9hauA)

+++No.

Posted by: washrivergal at January 19, 2019 02:11 PM (aWjrD)


No, it's not a feature in happy marriages. Mrs. Cop and I have been together for 26 years. I can't remember us ever having a screaming match. We disagree sometimes, but we work it out because we love and respect each other.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 19, 2019 02:23 PM (5Yee7)

531 492
Turn on your TV some time. Go to school and see how boys are treated......
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 02:05 PM (39g3+)
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Um,....I don't live in a cave in the desert and am well aware of the attack on masculinity.

I'm just saying that I do not see women yelling at men in stores, on the job, at school, etc.
(I can't say what people do in private.)





Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 19, 2019 02:24 PM (Rxduq)

532 complicated subject

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 02:24 PM (bUjCl)

533 I guess, there will always be shades of wanting a "mommy "or a "daddy", especially if someone's dad or mom were really great people and you want to see some of it in own marriage.

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 02:27 PM (bUjCl)

534 Norman?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 19, 2019 02:22 PM (SiINZ)


A boy's best friend is his mother.

Posted by: Some Jackass at January 19, 2019 02:27 PM (9gHOW)

535 I'm just saying that I do not see women yelling at men in stores, on the job, at school, etc.
(I can't say what people do in private.)

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Kids yelling at or threatening parents, however, is becoming a commonplace.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 19, 2019 02:28 PM (MIKMs)

536 >>> I saw Aquaman because I try to see all the superhero movies in the theater

Have you seen the new spider-man animated film? It is wonderful!! A loving tribute to what came before, really well thought out plot and villain, and great animation and humor.

One of the best marvel superhero films is a Sony film, lol!

Posted by: LizLem at January 19, 2019 02:29 PM (Yeic3)

537 There was a woman who lived across the street when I was little. She would get flat-out drunk every weekend and yell at her husband. Very loud. She was a nurse and was sober M-F. She would always buy her booze at the corner market. The woman who owned the market and was very aware of this customer told my mother that she (the market owner) had an emergency and ended up at the hospital. When she awoke, that same nurse was hovering over her. She didn't know what to think and was very frightened. Soon realized, however, the nurse was sober and all business. Thank God.

Posted by: washrivergal at January 19, 2019 02:29 PM (aWjrD)

538 Ben, we have the wind also...and a couple of inches of snow to boot.

I hear you on staying inside. I can handle cold but this wind is nasty.

Assume the water has (finally) receded down there. At least I hope so.

Posted by: creeper at January 19, 2019 02:31 PM (ey3Yt)

539 Have you seen the new spider-man animated film? It is wonderful!! A loving tribute to what came before, really well thought out plot and villain, and great animation and humor.

One of the best marvel superhero films is a Sony film, lol!
Posted by: LizLem at January 19, 2019 02:29 PM (Yeic3)

No, but I heard it's really good. I wasn't planning to watch it since it's an old school cartoon and I didn't realize it was a serious movie, but I'll watch it on your recommendation if it's still in theaters.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 02:32 PM (9hauA)

540 @537

O_O...holy crap..what a nightmare

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 02:33 PM (bUjCl)

541 504---Yeah this is an aspect of femininity that confuses me. They want men that they can "fix". Some control issue I guess. I mean it even goes down to "that lock of hair that falls into his face that I want to brush back" level.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 19, 2019 02:09 PM (39g3+)
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We might call it "toxic femininity!"

Women have a natural (and good) mothering instinct that has great positive benefits. But, if unrestrained or misdirected, it has negative ones.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 19, 2019 02:34 PM (Rxduq)

542 I just wrote this:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident. That all Maguffins are created equal. That they are endowed by Hitchcock with inalienable rights, including life, liberty and the pursuit of sweet Soros cash."

It goes on like that. Tell me what you think--and if you're eloquent enough, I'll put my name on it.

Posted by: Ace of Goldberg, Eponymous Crank at January 19, 2019 02:37 PM (Ndje9)

543 The animation is worth it on the big screen Chique! Sony has a patent pending on the tech they used to make it. Really beautiful blend of 3D and 2D. But unlike a film like Avatar, the plot lives up to the pretty.

How did you like aqua man? I need to hurry and see that if I can, the CGI looked neat. I got behind on movies during the holidays.

Posted by: LizLem at January 19, 2019 02:37 PM (Yeic3)

544 The Women's March is all about intersectionality (But not for Joooz).

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 19, 2019 02:39 PM (dcu2m)

545 How did you like aqua man? I need to hurry and see that if I can, the CGI looked neat. I got behind on movies during the holidays.
Posted by: LizLem at January 19, 2019 02:37 PM (Yeic3)

(Jump to top of page)

I enjoyed it. But I don't have a high bar for superhero movies. They just need to be fun, with cool action. It passed that test for me. There was a romantic-like interlude that annoyed me, lol, but it wasn't long before the action resumed.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 19, 2019 02:41 PM (9hauA)

546
Maybe "fixing" things is a female habit. Like tearing things down and then building something else is a male habit.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 02:41 PM (W04rT)

547 Mr Peebles, they way Jewish women like Sarah Silverman are handling the news the march is anti Semitic is fascinating. Cognitive dissonance is not just a river in Egypt.

Posted by: LizLem at January 19, 2019 02:42 PM (Yeic3)

548 43 If the APA is running short on psychotic patients, the National Mall in D.C. is a target rich environment today.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 19, 2019 11:47 AM (ZxU8C)

Half of the attendees are already under psych care of some sort. Most of the rest need to be.

Posted by: Bowser at January 19, 2019 02:42 PM (MwFQu)

549
What's this about Bush giving out pizzas to federal workers?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 19, 2019 02:44 PM (Hqm6c)

550 LizLem, did you see J.J.s reference to "self-gassing Jews"?

Only Sefton could get away with that.

Posted by: creeper at January 19, 2019 02:45 PM (ey3Yt)

551 Good of the husband to hold her red purse while her boyfriend carries her and their son to safety.

Posted by: t-bird at January 19, 2019 02:46 PM (JgLEu)

552 Don't look now, but Johnnie Walker Scotch thinks that Gillette is a good corporate role model.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yd65533u

Posted by: rickl at January 19, 2019 02:46 PM (sdi6R)

553 Don't look now, but Johnnie Walker Scotch thinks that Gillette is a good corporate role model.

They figured, what the hell, Jim Beam is never going to catch them using Mila Kunis (sp?)

Posted by: t-bird at January 19, 2019 02:47 PM (JgLEu)

554

Link to Right Side Broadcasting's coverage of the president:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyUQtILngNM

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 19, 2019 02:48 PM (Hqm6c)

555 It's interesting but depressing to read and think about the attempt to demonize men. So, since this seems to be turning into a long thread, I'm going to post this since I'm also thinking about the winter storm which we have have-or maybe not. It is from a areflections St Padre Pio wrote to one of his spiritual advisees/ It was the reading from yesterday from "Padre Pio's Spiritual Direction for Everyday" selected by Gianluigi Pasquale

My daughter, do not fear harsh winter storms, because to the extent that the winter is harsh, so much more will the Spring be full of flowers, and the harvest more abundant. Whatever the tempter says or does, God is accomplishing his wonderful purpose for you, which is to complete your full transformation in him. Do not believe the malignant whisperings and shadows of the enemy. Hold firm to the truth of what I declare to you with a clear conscience in my role as your spiritual director. Being afraid of casting yourself into the arms of divine goodness is even stranger than a baby being afraid while it is held tightly in its mothers arms. Banish whatever doubts and anxieties you have, even though infinite charity can permit them for the reason I mentioned above.


I liked it!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2019 02:49 PM (AllCR)

556

What's the TPS??

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 19, 2019 02:49 PM (Hqm6c)

557 546
Maybe "fixing" things is a female habit. Like tearing things down and then building something else is a male habit.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 02:41 PM (W04rT)
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Or --- men like to fix THINGS and women like to "fix" people. (?)

As to men destroying things ---
I used to gaze in wonderment when my bothers would build lovely models of ships or castles or whatever and then bomb them. WTF?



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 19, 2019 02:50 PM (Rxduq)

558 Oh creeper, that is brilliant! Put as only JJ can.

Look forward to Jonah stealing it next week.

Posted by: LizLem at January 19, 2019 02:50 PM (Yeic3)

559 Don't think that's her husband, that isn't a purse and I doubt the guy carrying her is her boyfriend.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2019 02:51 PM (AllCR)

560
looks like RSBN will have a live feed for PDT's talk at 1500

youtube.com/watch?v=QyUQtILngNM

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 19, 2019 02:51 PM (KCxzN)

561 Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 19, 2019 11:47 AM (ZxU8C)

Many, many fewer people than two years ago, thank God!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2019 02:52 PM (AllCR)

562
you beat me to it, sooth

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 19, 2019 02:52 PM (KCxzN)

563 RBS is one hour early ?

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 02:53 PM (bUjCl)

564

Is the address at 3pm or 4pm??

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 19, 2019 02:53 PM (Hqm6c)

565 looks like RSBN will have a live feed for PDT's talk at 1500

youtube.com/watch?v=QyUQtILngNM
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 19, 2019 02:51 PM (KCxzN)

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He is now not speaking until 1600, fyi.

Posted by: Calm Mentor's GoFundMe at January 19, 2019 02:53 PM (ffYR/)

566

I guess it's a 4pm.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 19, 2019 02:53 PM (Hqm6c)

567 RSB ...that is

Posted by: runner at January 19, 2019 02:53 PM (bUjCl)

568

They pushed it an hour, eh?

That would indicate the Democrats are attempting to make a deal, perhaps..

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 19, 2019 02:54 PM (Hqm6c)

569 134 Women can be narcissistic and toxic too."

USS Fitzgerald comes to mind...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 19, 2019 12:21 PM (6qErC)

I thought that was a cat fight between the OOD and the TACO?

Posted by: Bowser at January 19, 2019 02:55 PM (MwFQu)

570
Pets are nood.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 19, 2019 02:57 PM (Hqm6c)

571 That would indicate the Democrats are attempting to make a deal, perhaps..

I hope Trump has some Republican Congressmen in there with him for advice. So he can do the opposite.

Posted by: t-bird at January 19, 2019 02:59 PM (YPJrZ)

572 >>>Link to Right Side Broadcasting's coverage of the president:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyUQtILngNM

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 19, 2019 02:48 PM (Hqm6c)
..................................................


ooks like RSBN will have a live feed for PDT's talk at 1500

youtube.com/watch?v=QyUQtILngNM
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 19, 2019 02:51 PM (KCxzN)

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He is now not speaking until 1600, fyi.

Posted by: Calm Mentor's GoFundMe at January 19, 2019 02:53 PM (ffYR/)
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Negotiations

Posted by: Braenyard at January 19, 2019 03:01 PM (ePWRo)

573 >>>What's this about Bush giving out pizzas to federal workers?<<<

It's a poppycock photo op. Where's the proper meal of lobster and caviar?

Hi-yo, John Kerry! Away!

Posted by: Lone Ranger at January 19, 2019 03:02 PM (wxZSX)

574 Skandia Recluse: HEINLEIN'S CRAZY YEARS

Early in his writing, RAH laid out a timeline of characters, technology, cultural trends, etcetera to help him (consistently) write science fiction.
http://www.scifiwright.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/fhchartlarge-e1533141473516.gif

The 'crazy years' was a period of sociological deterioration of mores and culture. Starting in 1940, would last about 60 years, with the 2050-to-2100 range as the 'first human civilization'. Heinlein was a writer, not a prophet, and we are almost at 80 years with no end in sight.

"Heinlein's crazy years" is a convenient shorthand.

Posted by: hooodathunkit at January 19, 2019 03:03 PM (LEvCT)

575 >>>Don't think that's her husband, that isn't a purse and I doubt the guy carrying her is her boyfriend.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2019 02:51 PM (AllCR)
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Yeah, Jackass statements like that lower credibility.

Both of the men are rescuers, the lady's purse is hanging off her shoulder bumping the carrying man's left leg and the red bag held by the other man appears to be a first aid kit.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 19, 2019 03:06 PM (ePWRo)

576
He is now not speaking until 1600, fyi.



Posted by: Calm Mentor's GoFundMe at January 19, 2019 02:53 PM (ffYR/)

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Negotiations



Posted by: Braenyard at January 19, 2019 03:01 PM (ePWRo
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What, did Trump go to zero meridian and say "Tell you what, you just hold still for an hour and I'll allow you US residency whenever you want it. Believe me, you'd love it in America."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 03:17 PM (W04rT)

577
>>>What, did Trump go to zero meridian and say "Tell you what, you just hold still for an hour and I'll allow you US residency whenever you want it. Believe me, you'd love it in America."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 19, 2019 03:17 PM (W04rT)
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Lord, help us.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 19, 2019 03:20 PM (ePWRo)

578 "That offer has already been made and rejected."



But now we're in Day 29 of Shutdown.
---
Is it tomorrow or Monday that department heads can start eliminating positions to match the shutdown budget reality?

Or was that wishful thinking?

Posted by: Methos at January 19, 2019 03:21 PM (kOpft)

579 For those who do, now would be a good time to pray.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 19, 2019 03:23 PM (ePWRo)

580 Johnnie Walker, Diageo, Oh shit shit shit.Well, thanks for the news tip rickl. It's better to know.It was going to be a minor hardship to skip all those Proctor Gamble things. But now?


Diageo is one of maybe three big liquor companies. No way you won't find some of your favorites on their list. And to NOT boycott after they boldly and bravely take such a huge stand, is to lay there and take it, you-know-where.

So, so long Tanqueray, my favorite "wet" gin, so long Bulleit, so long Singleton, my favorite scotch. And someday I will get a chance to take my revenge on these political cocksuckers. I'd happily gut 'em.


Years ago before the wonderment of mergers and acquisitions, it was pretty much one name, one product. And companies almost never did this stuff!


I remember feeling, in the early 70's, that there just weren't any big companies you could feel good about doing business with. Well, it's like being young again, in the worst possible way.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 19, 2019 03:26 PM (8ZmvG)

581 Is it tomorrow or Monday that department heads can start eliminating positions to match the shutdown budget reality?

Or was that wishful thinking?
Posted by: Methos at January 19, 2019 03:21 PM (kOpft)

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Wishful thinking, from what I can gather. According to the OMB, it has to do with how this shutdown is classified. If it stays shut down RIFs can start, just not right away as I understand it.

Posted by: Calm Mentor's GoFundMe at January 19, 2019 03:28 PM (ffYR/)

582 Trump has asked certain personnel to stay on without pay. Possibly his comments have been directed to them.

There are so many weasel words about the RIF I think it will come down to Will and who has the best lawyer.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 19, 2019 03:38 PM (ePWRo)

583 https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/

Posted by: Mittens Romney AKA John McCain at January 19, 2019 03:55 PM (BqBId)

584 I knew it would be a long day

Posted by: Skip at January 19, 2019 03:59 PM (/rm4P)

585 61 Steve and Cold Bear - "Chances are the woman will vote Democrat and continue to do so, so that people like her rescuer will be x-ed out of existence. Yet we need to import more like her into this country until we are overrun by them. The good driven out that the worthless and evil may flourish. "

Ouch! The bigotry, it hurtses.

https://dallasnews.___ix.net/1505228607-NM_27floodinghoustonrescueLD24.jpg
Her husband was carrying the family's clothes and baby formula. He is a financial planner and she is a pharmacist. Both grew up in Texas, the children of Texans. They own their home -as much as most of us can claim- and contribute to society.

Neither are 'worthless and evil'. You owe an apology to Ace and to the couple who were photographed as they were flooded out.

Posted by: hooodathunkit at January 19, 2019 04:08 PM (LEvCT)

586 He's speaking now.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 19, 2019 04:09 PM (ePWRo)

587 Watching it stream live now.

Not a single station is carrying it live.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 19, 2019 04:10 PM (cqNba)

588 Trump speaking
$800 mill humanitarian assistance
$805 mill
2750 new agents
new judges
changes to asylum process for children
$5.5 bill "strategic deployment" of barrier

3 years legislative relief for DACA

Posted by: Fox2! at January 19, 2019 04:13 PM (MwFQu)

589 No cable news carrying it? I think the talk radio I was listening to was going to cut in.

Posted by: Skip at January 19, 2019 04:14 PM (/rm4P)

590 Fox News has Trump live

Mitch pledges to bring to vote this week.

Posted by: Fox2! at January 19, 2019 04:15 PM (MwFQu)

591 Not a single local Baltimore station is showing this live.

I don't have cable.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 19, 2019 04:16 PM (cqNba)

592 Trump keeps saying there is a crisis. The only crisis Dems see is no more free flights and booze at taxpayer expense. .

Posted by: Ripley at January 19, 2019 04:16 PM (MxEKc)

593 Pelousy will shit on it.

Posted by: JAS at January 19, 2019 04:16 PM (3HNOQ)

594 Dems say no money for barrier

Posted by: Fox2! at January 19, 2019 04:18 PM (MwFQu)

595 At this point, with the MSM news blackout funny in place, I believe that they will boycott the SOTU, if given.

I am beyond words concerning the embargo of this.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 19, 2019 04:20 PM (cqNba)

596 Democrats won't go for anything President Trump wants

Posted by: Skip at January 19, 2019 04:20 PM (/rm4P)

597 And I don't think they ever want DACA straighted out, its their money maker to keep that battle going.

Posted by: Skip at January 19, 2019 04:22 PM (/rm4P)

598 595 At this point, with the MSM news blackout funny in place, I believe that they will boycott the SOTU, if given.

I am beyond words concerning the embargo of this.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 19, 2019 04:20 PM (cqNba)


But the media are totally not the enemy of the American people, no sir.

Posted by: rickl at January 19, 2019 04:22 PM (sdi6R)

599 Posted by: Skip at January 19, 2019 04:20 PM (/rm4P)
******
Thus why he offered it !

Posted by: Mittens Romney AKA John McCain at January 19, 2019 04:22 PM (BqBId)

600 Hmmm... so Trump tries to cut a Deal that he already knows will piss off part of his base.

Dems still won't deal.

SOTU, Declare a National Emergency.

Posted by: Don Q at January 19, 2019 04:22 PM (NgKpN)

601 Hmmm... Dems have voted lock step for years.

Could this break the Dem coalition?

Posted by: Don Q at January 19, 2019 04:26 PM (NgKpN)

602 Maybe President Trump is going half way to show the general public he is being reasonable but knows Democrats will dismiss it out of hand.

Posted by: Skip at January 19, 2019 04:27 PM (/rm4P)

603 Skip, that is what I think too.

I had to run away and do stuff, will watch the replay of the announcement on RSBN while I do more stuff.

And yes, if Obama was in office this would have been breathlessly covered by every network, instead of ignored.

Posted by: LizLem at January 19, 2019 04:33 PM (TnaCl)

604 The media blacking out President Trump might be the tell that they are against President Trump as much and don't want any cooperation.

Posted by: Skip at January 19, 2019 04:36 PM (/rm4P)

605 So this thing's still on, right? Discussing the Trump announcement here?


Wow. Stunned at this package he proposed. Assume there is strategery in it - but I can't see it. Baffled at what the WH assumptions are here - about the actual issues, and the politix, and the calendar.


E-verify
Fully funded (lifecycle cost + personnel costs) of robust barriers, San Diego to Brownsville
"Sanctuary" lawlessness
Fix to the disastrous asylum scam


All key, all drivers of the emergency Trump identified, all direct causes of some its worst costs (esp. drug-related deaths and mayhem). They're not even on the table, or the radar.


Wow.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 19, 2019 04:50 PM (QDnY+)

606 Too true skip. Are we the only two still here? *stretches out on roomy thread*

I saw Romney is backing Trump on the shutdown. When you have lost the junior senator, libs...

Posted by: LizLem at January 19, 2019 04:53 PM (TnaCl)

607 And I wasn't even addressing the worst aspects.


Amnesty in any form is amnesty.


It's not a moral or legal or constitutional issue - it is 100% a tactical issue


Any significant amnesty of any kind, that is now or soon, and not conditioned on *prior* achievement of a border barrier, asylum fix, and massive, comprehensive internal enforcement, is nearly guaranteed to be a disaster.


The watching eyes outside the borders will take it as a go signal, the watching eyes inside the border will take it as a sign they have won or will eventually. And while they might be wrong in those takes, they will be rational, and represent the "smart money" in terms of how to bet.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 19, 2019 04:57 PM (QDnY+)

608 Hi Rhomboid! Am having trouble watching a recap of the trump presser, will have to see later. I assume he is playing deal chess where he knows they will refuse it, so he is being generous. For now.

Is it true Pelosi was at Reagan airport today going on a trip? Good job running away from negotiations. Great optics.

Posted by: LizLem at January 19, 2019 04:59 PM (TnaCl)

609 Looks like this is dead here.


LizLem, the Pelosi thing at the airport was yesterday.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 19, 2019 05:17 PM (QDnY+)

610 Normal masculinity imposes duties and restrictions on men that aren't always easy to discharge. The easy way, the path of least resistance, is to eschew masculinity.

The same people eager to tag all masculinity as "toxic" are going to miss it when it's gone.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 19, 2019 06:42 PM (h2Bdk)

611 Saw an interesting caption for the pic in the piece..

"I gotcher toxic masculinity right here."

Posted by: Richard Aubrey at January 19, 2019 09:26 PM (fikzx)

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