The Romney/Establishment Attack on Trump Is All About Open Borders, and Always Has Been

I've wanted to write about this myself for a long while.

Dave Reaboi makes different points than I have in mind, but he makes the basic point: all this shrieking about "character" by the neocons, liberal Republicans, and Establishment types is just some ideological camouflage to disguise the real objection to Trump, that is, that it's racist to oppose Open Borders.

They don't want to say that -- they believe it intensely, but they don't want to admit they share yet another key ideological premise with their close cousins on the globalist hard left -- so they pretend this is all about a rather small difference in free trade and the tactics to achieve actual free trade and, of course, about "character."

It's not. It's just that these people have such low character -- they are inveterate liars and are long practiced in misrepresenting their believes and their intentions to the voters they con into voting them into power -- that they lie without a thought about it.

They will go on lying about it. Bill Kristol, Mitt Romney, Jonah Goldberg, almost all of National Review, etc., will continue playing hide-the-ball regarding their real views on immigration -- which are open borders in all but name, just keep doing what we're doing, which is virtually nothing (which is why the open borders people endorse our current #FakeNews immigration enforcement) -- acting as perfect cowards in refusing to clearly announce their actual beliefs and preferences and pretending this is all merely a dispute about "character."

Well it is -- in a way. They believe that anyone who opposes their de facto open borders position is a racist and therefore has bad "character."

They just won't say so. They've grown accustomed to lying to their readers, constituents, and voters about just how monstrously racist and evil they believe them to be. They only gain the courage to state these beliefs forthrightly when, like Max Boot, they officially defect to the liberal Democrat camp.

But your character is bad.

Their character -- all lies and cowardice and self-dealing -- is sterling.

And super-Christian.

Just ask them!

Immigration is really the only issue that matters—but not in the way you might think.
— David Reaboi (@davereaboi) January 2, 2019

We've got now a significant minority in the country--and a powerful majority in elite institutions like media and academia--that believes we don't have a right to restrict immigration into the US at all, because it's racist.

This loud minority is amplified on social media, sure--but conservatives understand that these are the people who’re teaching their children and creating the intellectual environment for them. They see, correctly, that it's only a matter of time.
When Trump says "if we don’t have borders, we don't have a country," that aphorism resonates because it’s *more essentially true* than anything in GOP orthodoxy you'd read about in any conservative media pre-Trump.

The Trump/Romney argument on the Right, at this point, is utterly boring. It's the same conflict, like the Eternal Recurrence, between people who know what time it is, and people who don't. It's rancorous precisely because it's a conflict about perception of the threat.
It's also a battle that’s been won by the Trump side--even if the folks cheering Romney today don’t realize it.
The status quo GOP candidates were totally routed in 2016; both Trump and Cruz resonated with the GOP electorate because they're "America is in Crisis" candidates.
Marco Rubio was the quintessential status quo GOP candidate. It's like he was weaned on Weekly Standard and WSJ op/eds.
His message of optimism was rejected by people who knew what time it was--people who understand that America had changed significantly since Reagan and Bush.
If you know what time it is, and understand that we’re losing not just our common culture American identity--that's pretty much gone--but now, the concept of national sovereignty full-stop, you are legitimately furious at would-be allies who are knifing you in the back.
If you believe this massive cultural & philosophical conflict will be won without "tribalism," you do not know enough about this to be of much use going forward.
Many of the pro-Trump people you hate understand this, and that's why they're frustrated AF with you.
A final thought: Rubio voter types seem to believe that taking in any amount of any kind of immigrants would not change the character or politics of America in any real way, certainly not negative.
For people in the real world, however--people who know what time it is--this insane belief is proof you're so ideologically blinded on something so basic, you can't be trusted.
It's not that these people are stupid or evil; they just believe a bunch of things that manifestly are not true in order to reach what they believe is the only conclusion that's possible given these assumptions.
I'll have to do another Universal Values Delusion thread, because it's worth repeating. It's a misunderstanding of American principles that’s so tightly held, it's become a dogma that’s crowded-out even self-evident, plainly observable truths.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 01:30 PM

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1 Ah, fresh...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 02, 2019 01:27 PM (6qErC)

2 Fuck Mitt Romney. Make him feel like a woman.

Posted by: Sponge at January 02, 2019 01:28 PM (F4u7C)

3 Not first!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, If you've read and enjoyed any of my works, please leave a review on Amazon. at January 02, 2019 01:28 PM (q8oeS)

4 nd

Posted by: SturmToddler at January 02, 2019 01:28 PM (8D42x)

5 clicking heels worked

Posted by: Off the reservation at January 02, 2019 01:29 PM (vWMNq)

6 In before butt stuff!

Posted by: Roland THTG at January 02, 2019 01:29 PM (88+cf)

7 bloody hell. well, made top ten.

*I KNEW that was a bad idea...*

oh and because I forgot earlier, happy new year everyone.

Posted by: SturmToddler at January 02, 2019 01:29 PM (8D42x)

8 Has Romney replaced McCain or the Flake?

Posted by: rd at January 02, 2019 01:29 PM (kfj5i)

9 Oh hey, a new thread.

Posted by: Someguy at January 02, 2019 01:29 PM (h5Df3)

10 >>>8 Has Romney replaced McCain or the Flake?

both

Posted by: ace at January 02, 2019 01:30 PM (PbpT7)

11 Has Romney replaced McCain or the Flake?"

Embrace the "and"

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 02, 2019 01:30 PM (6qErC)

12 I don't get the "Eternal Recurrence" reference

Posted by: TexasDan at January 02, 2019 01:30 PM (yL25O)

13 FU Utah!

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 02, 2019 01:30 PM (xfb67)

14 (i)They will go on lying about it. Bill Kristol, Mitt Romney, Jonah
Goldberg, almost all of National Review, etc., will continue playing
hide-the-ball regarding their real views on immigration

You can also add RINO Ryan to that list. he has always been an open borders turd right along with the RNCe.

Posted by: Vic at January 02, 2019 01:30 PM (mpXpK)

15 They let the mask slip a lot. They think "well who will clean your hotel rooms and pick your strawberries, huh wingnuts??" is a good argument. They hate the real answer to that, which is "legal Americans, who will need to be paid a living wage, not paid cheaply under the table."

At least they're consistent - remember, they didn't want their slaves taken away back in the 1860's either.

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at January 02, 2019 01:30 PM (oZ6kz)

16 >>Has Romney replaced McCain or the Flake?

He has Binders filled with Retard.

Posted by: garrett at January 02, 2019 01:31 PM (OaqE8)

17 Makes perfect sense!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 02, 2019 01:31 PM (W+vEI)

18 >>>12 I don't get the "Eternal Recurrence" reference

it's a Nietschean idea, that things don't really change, that all of history is an "Eternal Recurrence of the Same"

Posted by: ace at January 02, 2019 01:31 PM (PbpT7)

19 I'm repeating this from Illi;

That comes way before raiding capital rich companies and modernizing them with all sorts of "efficiencies". Moving to China to use slaves, freely pollute, avoid US taxes for military and the overhead of our heavy welfare state ... is really not about efficiency, is it?

Restructuring can happen without selling the American Made company to globalists, who then haul it off to their chop shop and move pieces overseas. (or leave it here and demand Americans train their H1B replacements).

But I'd support a wholesale restructuring of the bloated federal bureaucracy, which has voted in constant increases, and never needs to balance a budget, because the feds tax and spend, then spend trillions beyond the taxes. And they will raid your own house (or your lawyer's house if you get in their way).

When did Mitt ever suggest making BigGov more efficient by downsizing and "restructuring". If he had anything to bring to the table, it would have been the lesson he "taught" those workers he put out of a job. "I'm just streamlining" .... but never with government. Mitt is just another commie.
Posted by: illiniwek at January 02, 2019 12:18 PM (Cus5s)

this is how it is

Posted by: bah at January 02, 2019 01:31 PM (zy5Ai)

20 We are finally rid of McCain and Flake..and here comes Romney to replace them. And as unwanted as a big, fat, hairy wart.

Posted by: IC at January 02, 2019 01:31 PM (a0IVu)

21 As I said earlier... What is open borders all about? It's greed wearing the stolen clothing of compassion and righteousness.

They want their under the table sweatshop labor, no matter what the cost to the people they ostensibly represent.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at January 02, 2019 01:31 PM (J+mig)

22

Open borders = "common sense immigration"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 02, 2019 01:32 PM (aKsyK)

23 Open borders are important to the establishment because if they get that, then they no longer have any reason to care what we think. They won't need us to get elected, and we won't be able to stop them. Well, won't be able to stop them using methods which aren't bannable offenses.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 02, 2019 01:32 PM (KUaJL)

24 Spot - on, Ace, every word of it.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 02, 2019 01:32 PM (jI3MC)

25 One thing that Holder said was right. Americans can be really stupid.

Thanks Utah!!! Hope you enjoyed your fucking olympics.......

Posted by: Sponge at January 02, 2019 01:32 PM (F4u7C)

26 Speaking of white bread.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 02, 2019 01:32 PM (xfb67)

27 Is it time to start melting down the US Senate phonelines?

"Fund the Wall. Build the Wall. Five billion for the wall and get Government back to not working."

Posted by: rd at January 02, 2019 01:32 PM (kfj5i)

28 10 >>>8 Has Romney replaced McCain or the Flake?

both
Posted by: ace at January 02, 2019 01:30 PM (PbpT7)

=============

So, they're halving?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, If you've read and enjoyed any of my works, please leave a review on Amazon. at January 02, 2019 01:32 PM (q8oeS)

29 I don't think that anyone on the left or NeverTrump are doing the math on the 2020 election.

As in, what issue, exactly, should be our main focus in opposing Trump?

Oh, I know. Let's make go all in against the Wall and for Unfettered Immigration.

Not like that was Trumps' signature issue in the past or anything.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 02, 2019 01:32 PM (yL25O)

30 Marco Rubio was the quintessential status quo GOP candidate. It's like he was weaned on Weekly Standard and WSJ op/eds.

Remember gang, the WSJ was playing the false, 'agree with us or you are against ALL immigration' lie for years.

Posted by: Blue Hen at January 02, 2019 01:32 PM (e1q4h)

31 I'll say one thing about the dems: they don't brook no treason.Before anyone becomes a problem, they get "Seth Rich'd" and everyone of those asshole understands this.

Posted by: Old Dude at January 02, 2019 01:33 PM (LGXGf)

32 I would suggest that Bill Kristol, Mitt Romney, Jonah Goldberg, almost all of National Review, etc., be sexually penetrated, but that would merely be another Friday night at Cuck Manor.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 02, 2019 01:33 PM (yQpMk)

33 In before the buttermilk!

Posted by: Surfperch's Grandfather (the one who drank buttermilk out of the carton) at January 02, 2019 01:33 PM (mvp+a)

34 Has Romney replaced McCain or the Flake?
Posted by: rd at January 02, 2019 01:29 PM (kfj5i)

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Yes.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 02, 2019 01:33 PM (ffYR/)

35 >>"Eternal Recurrence of the Same"
Posted by: ace at January 02, 2019 01:31 PM (PbpT7)

Vico's 'corso ricorso.'

Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 01:33 PM (Bdeb0)

36 open borders out of the goodness of their hearts, anyone that buys that is just silly.

it's still about undermining America, weakening the country, destroying wealth at the bottom wrungs of society.

Posted by: bah at January 02, 2019 01:33 PM (zy5Ai)

37 >>it's a Nietschean idea, that things don't really change, that all of history is an "Eternal Recurrence of the Same"

I always read it as / considerd it a (Nietzscean) counterpoint to the Hegelian Dialectic.

Posted by: garrett at January 02, 2019 01:33 PM (OaqE8)

38 "I don't get the "Eternal Recurrence" reference

Posted by: TexasDan at January 02, 2019 01:30 PM (yL25O) "

Usually called the Eternal Return. The idea that everything will just be endlessly repeated. Sort of similar to the parable of the old priest and young priest from the Golden Bough.

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at January 02, 2019 01:33 PM (oZ6kz)

39 10 >>>8 Has Romney replaced McCain or the Flake?

both.

Posted by: ace at January 02, 2019 01:30 PM (PbpT7)

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I don't think Romney has the chops to pull Graham and sundry others into his orbit, though.

Could be wrong, wait and see.

We may be marginally better off with Romney over Flake of McCain, but, considering Romney, right out of the blocks is showing that he plans to be the face of the GOPe, it may be a slim hope.

Posted by: Blake - tis the season for grinching at January 02, 2019 01:33 PM (qC1Sy)

40 If you are in favor of financially and culturally destroying your nation, oprima dos.

Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 01:33 PM (Bdeb0)

41 At least they're consistent - remember, they didn't want their slaves taken away back in the 1860's either.
Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at January 02, 2019 01:30 PM (oZ6kz)

Ending their exploitative, banana republic sweatshop labor practices is a moral cause that could animate people, if we dare to embrace it.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at January 02, 2019 01:34 PM (J+mig)

42

Romney is now McRomney.

I expected these attacks, wait until they roll out their comm plans. It will be fun.

I hope Don has his scalpel sharpened, business is gonna be picking up soon.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Raniere at January 02, 2019 01:34 PM (2BpI6)

43 It's not that these people are stupid or evil; they just believe a bunch of things that manifestly are not true in order to reach what they believe is the only conclusion that's possible given these assumptions.

I am out of tolerance. I'll take the under on this one. Those in positions of power or influence (real or perceived) trumpeting the line that unchecked mass immigration has zero consequences on the polity or culture is deliberately lying to you. They may not like it but are willing to pay that price for increased power and influence (which makes them evil), or they may love it due to self-loathing (which makes them evil) or they may love it because of some weird left-wing pathological altruism (which makes them evil), but they know it is a damn lie and they hold the line anyway.

Screw them. They have consumed every benefit of every doubt I could give them, and I have no further capacity or desire to create more.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 02, 2019 01:34 PM (I2dne)

44 At least they're consistent - remember, they didn't want their slaves taken away back in the 1860's either. "

Indeed.

The seeming desire for "cheap labor" for tasks better suited to mechanization has always puzzled me. As a young'n of 29 or so, I still met grizzled ol' timers who didn't "trust" tools or mechanized ag devices.

But they's still use a plow/harrow/tractor.

I really didn't get it then, and still don't.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 02, 2019 01:34 PM (6qErC)

45 >>Vico's 'corso ricorso.'

That is delicious with asparagus and a little fresh Parm.

Posted by: garrett at January 02, 2019 01:34 PM (OaqE8)

46 Y'all talk faggy!

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 02, 2019 01:34 PM (xfb67)

47 Their character -- all lies and cowardice and self-dealing -- is sterling.
And super-Christian.
Just ask them!

No need to ask, Ace, I've told you this many, many times.

🚢 ⛴ 🚢 ⛴ 🚢

Posted by: Wm. Kristol at January 02, 2019 01:34 PM (ctuyM)

48 For some its not about race. Its about cheap, exploitable labor. The might use race to sanctify their real position, but honestly they don't give a damn about race.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 01:34 PM (39g3+)

49 >>45 >>Vico's 'corso ricorso.' That is delicious with asparagus and a little fresh Parm. Posted by: garrett at January 02, 2019 01:34 PM (OaqE

You are unfamiliar with Giambattista Vico.

Kill yourself.

Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 01:35 PM (Bdeb0)

50 I think we need to just disband the USCIS - no more applying for visas or work permits, no citizenship system.

We should now measure how much someone wants to be a citizen by letting them sneak into the country. If all those lawyers and doctors and programmers and engineers from foreign countries want to immigrate to America, they can sneak in like all the hard working dedicated third world ones do!

We could save a butt load on the costs of the agencies, and think how happy all the high tech companies would be not having to deal with importing all those H1-B $15.00/hr experts that America just doesn't have!

Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 02, 2019 01:35 PM (37IEG)

51 They let the mask slip a lot. They think "well who will clean your hotel rooms and pick your strawberries, huh wingnuts??" is a good argument. They hate the real answer to that, which is "legal Americans, who will need to be paid a living wage, not paid cheaply under the table."

At least they're consistent - remember, they didn't want their slaves taken away back in the 1860's either.

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at January 02, 2019 01:30 PM (oZ6kz)

Which, when you think about it, is about as racist as one can possibly be without wearing a hood and burning crosses.

proof, if any more was needed, that they view all immigrants (brown people?) as nothing more than "the help"...

Posted by: SturmToddler at January 02, 2019 01:35 PM (8D42x)

52 Walls will be built. Either on the border or around millions of individual homes. One of the depressing things about visiting Mexico is the walls and fences and barbed wire. Everywhere. Even in 'good' areas.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at January 02, 2019 01:35 PM (3bnBu)

53 "Ending their exploitative, banana republic sweatshop labor practices is a moral cause that could animate people, if we dare to embrace it.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at January 02, 2019 01:34 PM (J+mig) "

It'll have to be the rank and file types doing it - the establishment GOP has no desire to see that particular rice bowl get shattered.

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at January 02, 2019 01:36 PM (oZ6kz)

54 The people who claim Open Borders and multiculturalism is the only True Christian thing to do need to be asked why the Tower of Babel failed.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 02, 2019 01:36 PM (Vgw1E)

55 called the Senate Majority Leader's office and let them know what I
thought about Romney. I was nice of course. They were curt and
rude. I ;think they are getting slammed.

I
don't think Romney minced any words, he straight up called the
president racist and "anti-immigration". At least that is how I read
the op-ed

Posted by: Quint at January 02, 2019 01:36 PM (n13/j)

56 For people in the real world, however--people who know what time it is--this insane belief is proof you're so ideologically blinded on something so basic, you can't be trusted.

It's not that these people are stupid or evil; they just believe a bunch of things that manifestly are not true in order to reach what they believe is the only conclusion that's possible given these assumptions.

I think people like Rubio are bought, and that's why they can't be trusted.

Their millionaire benefactors insist on open borders and he shrugs and say, "Sure, I can sell this." Does Rubio understand the consequences of open borders? Doesn't matter: he doesn't care about the consequences, it's not as important as winning.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 02, 2019 01:36 PM (W+vEI)

57 It's not that these people are stupid or evil;

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They're not stupid. They are evil. End of story. Mitt Romney is evil. Bill Kristol is evil. Jonah Goldberg is evil. The Bush family is evil. Just as evil as the Democrats.

Get it out. It's OK to say that they're evil and you hate them. Just let yourself say it.

These people are working behind the scenes together, selling out their countrymen so they can farm third-worlders on what used to be our land for money, votes, and cheap labor.

It's sick, it's wrong and people who do this are evil.

Sheesh.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 02, 2019 01:36 PM (AzW6q)

58 From a libertarian point of view, I can understand the idea of essentially open borders. Free flow of labor and all of that.

But we don't live in a libertarian country. If we had no welfare, very low taxes, and the cost of labor was not artificially inflated with taxes, insurance, and compliance fees, then the "eh, if there's a shortage of labor, letting in more people will smooth that out, if there's a surplus of labor, people will leave" economic argument would make more sense to me.

In our current state of affairs, it just sounds fucking nuts.

Of course, that's not even the argument that's being made here. Not really. The argument is two-fold:
1) We aren't having enough kids to support our ever ballooning welfare state, especially social security / medicare / medicaid.
and
2) Only racists would be against letting people "who look differently than them" move in to the country.

#2 is offensive and not even worth arguing about it. #1, sure -- we can talk about it. My solution isn't to bring a whole new level of dupes in to the Pyramid Scheme though, my solution would be to try to begin dismantling and unraveling the entire thing. But if you begin to have any conversations about that, the left and open border types pivot back to #2.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 02, 2019 01:36 PM (GBteo)

59 So in 2012, Mittens was Hitler and putting wymyn in binders and giving cancer to people and outlawing tampons and THE worst thing ever. Now the Quisling thinks he'll be a darling of the MFM by trashing the president. That miserable turd needs to be shut down fast

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 02, 2019 01:36 PM (OLCnA)

60 I remember being bummed that Romney didn't beat Barry, even though I held my nose and voted for the piece of shit and had buyers remorse the next morning. But in the long run, it's actually good he didn't win. Fucking asshole.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 02, 2019 01:37 PM (nAeGR)

61 To the GOP, it's about driving wages down.

Essentially, keeping the serf class serfs, cutting the costs of the industrialists, and ensuring a supply of compliant, dependent worker bees.

Tactical class warfare.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 02, 2019 01:37 PM (gyL25)

62 Ace nails it. Again.

Posted by: DanMan at January 02, 2019 01:37 PM (XTiHL)

63 I'm ashamed that I voted Rombley in 2012. In hindsight, it made no difference but now I have the stench on me.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 02, 2019 01:37 PM (+y/Ru)

64 >>You are unfamiliar with Giambattista Vico.

>Kill yourself.

EABOD

Italians are for Coffee. Not Philosophy.

Posted by: garrett at January 02, 2019 01:37 PM (OaqE8)

65 Which, when you think about it, is about as racist as one can possibly be without wearing a hood and burning crosses.

proof, if any more was needed, that they view all immigrants (brown people?) as nothing more than "the help"...

Posted by: SturmToddler at January 02, 2019 01:35 PM (8D42x)
Exactly this -

Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 02, 2019 01:37 PM (37IEG)

66 Which, when you think about it,"

See, that's the problem right there...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 02, 2019 01:38 PM (6qErC)

67 The Globalists try to spin it that it is racist to oppose open borders, but they themselves do not want open borders out of any kind of love for the brown peoples. They want subservient brown people to exploit their labor.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 02, 2019 01:38 PM (nPGq2)

68 62 Ace nails it. Again.

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And now it knows what it feels like to be a woman.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 02, 2019 01:38 PM (xfb67)

69 He's such a two faced little shit!

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 02, 2019 01:38 PM (nAeGR)

70 This immigration fever isn't only happening here. It's happening in white countries world wide. The primary goal is the destruction of white people in white countries. Cheap labor is just a side benefit.

Posted by: Deebly super elite at January 02, 2019 01:38 PM (qJjzH)

71 Romney is not a Christian.

The Bible is very clear that open borders is evil.

Psalm 86:9 All nations whom thou hast made shall come and worship before thee, O Lord; and shall glorify thy name. (God made the nations.)

Genesis 22:18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice. (God wants to bless the nations.)

Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! (Lucifer's fall from heaven weakened the nations.)

Therefore what is good for a Nation is Good and what weakens a Nation is evil. Immigration without assimilation weakens a Nation and is therefore Evil.

The Bible is clear on another matter.
The tower of Babel, gathered the many Nations into one place and blurred them all into one. God, who is without sin, destroyed it, therefore we know building a Tower of Babel is evil

What is Immigration with assimilation? It is literally gathering people from alll the nations and making them into one, yes?Well the Bible says that is evil.

Build the damn wall.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at January 02, 2019 01:38 PM (oI6j8)

72 Italians are for Coffee. Not Philosophy.

Posted by: garrett at January 02, 2019 01:37 PM (OaqE

scusi

Posted by: Machiavelli at January 02, 2019 01:39 PM (n13/j)

73 The elites are better. They think that if they just open the flood gates and destroy EVERYTHING, they'll be in charge and we'll come flocking to them to "fix everything."

Well, they're dumbfucks and we don't care for their view of what WE should be.

We'll need another revolution here before it's said and done. And the RIGHT side needs to win.

Posted by: Sponge at January 02, 2019 01:39 PM (F4u7C)

74 Guys/Gals - Romney got elected Governor of Massachusetts.

Did you really need him to put anything else on his resume for you to know what an asshole anti-conservative squish he has to be?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 02, 2019 01:39 PM (37IEG)

75 If you accept the premise that opposing unfettered illegal immigration is an act of racism then you are intellectually obligated to surrender on this issue. When sovereignty = racism then the game is up before the players get to the field.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at January 02, 2019 01:39 PM (RD7QR)

76 Romney is now McRomney.

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McRomney with cheese.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 02, 2019 01:40 PM (+y/Ru)

77 I am gobsmacked to see Willard the Wiley Shapeshifter get elected in Utah!

Fucking Utah.

Posted by: Fritz at January 02, 2019 01:40 PM (wxZSX)

78 It has been said many times and it is still a fact; you can not have open border in a welfare state. You get what Germany and the rest of Europe is getting now. A flood of cockroaches looking for a free ride.

These migrants are not looking for the so-called 'jobs Americans will not do. The amount of welfare they get is rich by their standards. To the the US is Heaven with the streets paved with gold.

Posted by: Vic at January 02, 2019 01:40 PM (mpXpK)

79 Posted by: Blake - tis the season for grinching at January 02, 2019 01:33 PM (qC1Sy)

I see Romney as more akin to Flake than McCain. Which is to say, he'll likely do something to block Trump's agenda and then sit there all sad-faced and wondering why he's the only principled man in the Senate--I could easily see him doing that--but I don't think he has the ruthless mendacity required to drag others along with him. Whatever McCain did to blackmail Graham into dancing his jig, Romney doesn't seem to me to have the fortitude to repeat it.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 02, 2019 01:40 PM (Vgw1E)

80 Helter skelter is coming down fast.

Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 01:40 PM (Bdeb0)

81 >>Posted by: Machiavelli at January 02, 2019 01:39 PM (n13/j)

Duo Doppio Espressi

Posted by: garrett at January 02, 2019 01:40 PM (OaqE8)

82 I wonder if any of these experts have ever visited Mexico. My wife and I along group of friends would rent a villa and spend a couple of weeks just outside of Puerto Vallarta back when it was somewhat safe down there. We would walk along the streets and it was very common for homes to have a stone wall surrounding the property. The walls they had down there had broken glass embedded in the mortar atop the wall.
I heard M Stein make a great point yesterday about how robots are slated to take over a good deal of the low wage jobs in the coming decade. And we want to import a slew of additional unskilled labor? What in Gods name are these experts thinking?

Posted by: Jeff down in Texas at January 02, 2019 01:40 PM (lrpir)

83 I would suggest that Bill Kristol, Mitt Romney, Jonah Goldberg, almost all of National Review, etc., be sexually penetrated, but that would merely be another Friday night at Cuck Manor.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 02, 2019 01:33 PM (yQpMk)

If only I still had my Cruise Ship...

Posted by: Former Kruise Kaptain Kristol 🚢 -> 🚣 at January 02, 2019 01:40 PM (mvp+a)

84 I just want a big strong immigrant to show me what it feels like to be a woman!

Posted by: Mitt Romney at January 02, 2019 01:40 PM (oI6j8)

85 What does it say of Romney's character that he can't lead by example?

Is not his attack on Trump in poor character?

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at January 02, 2019 01:40 PM (TN1P5)

86 Here's one of the things: I knew who Trump was when I voted for him. I knew he was a womanizer and did business with shady characters because he's in NYC and in the gambling and hotel business.
He's the first man I ever voted for who I knew what he was. The rest are pretenders and liars and no more moral than Trump but will never show you that side until they are elected and even then lie about what they are doing. So, here's a big ol' fuck you to Mitt.

Posted by: huerfano at January 02, 2019 01:40 PM (pqc4s)

87 It's old news that Trump brings out his enemies' true self, but the 2016 nomination race really provided clarity on immigration. Trump went to one extreme while the 16 other candidates . . . didn't budge an inch. Not one of them chose to seize the middle ground to differentiate himself from the pack while still leaving room to say he was much more reasonable than crazy Trump.

I recall reading a Scott Walker interview (a guy I wanted to support) state that he was essentially required to stick with open borders because his biggest/primary donor insisted on it.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 02, 2019 01:41 PM (W+vEI)

88 We Should Have Picked Our Own Damn Cotton

will soon be replaced by

We Should Have Mowed Our Own Damn Lawns

when, a few decades from now, the white progressives find themselves vastly outnumbered by Catholic Hispanics.

Oooooooops.

Posted by: zombie at January 02, 2019 01:41 PM (c+2jX)

89 osted by: Nationalist Pikachu at January 02, 2019 01:38 PM (oI6j

Well, I think you could make biblical arguments for strong borders, but I don't think those are the best passages to chose to support it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2019 01:41 PM (AllCR)

90 80
Helter skelter is coming down fast.

Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 01:40 PM (Bdeb0)
Better now than 5 years from now as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 02, 2019 01:41 PM (37IEG)

91 Hence why Trump's reply is so spot on:

"Here we go with Mitt Romney, but so fast! Question will be, is he a Flake? I hope not. Would much prefer Mitt focus on Border Security and so many other things where he can be helpful. I won big, and he didn't. He should be happy for all Republicans. Be a TEAM player and WIN!"

Posted by: Mikey NTH -The Outrage Outlet Wishes You a Testy New Year! at January 02, 2019 01:41 PM (hLRSq)

92 We should elect an illegal in Congress.

They can have their jobs too.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 02, 2019 01:41 PM (xfb67)

93 I honestly don't get this. There are over 30 million illegal aliens in this country, there is no shortage of illegal, underpaid lawn care, day care, and maid service personnel to be had.

There has to be another reason for this deathwish for the country.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 02, 2019 01:41 PM (nEylt)

94
They want their under the table sweatshop labor, no matter what the cost to the people they ostensibly represent.
Posted by: Cato by Phone at January 02, 2019 01:31 PM (J+mig)

I don't think Romney, personally, gives a shit if he has to pay his help $12 an hour or $15 an hour.

I think it's about not being racist, helping keep labor costs low across the country for "the economies sake," and trying to push off the impending social security system collapse for another generation, when he won't be in power.

(and this applies to all politicians who take his viewpoint)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 02, 2019 01:41 PM (GBteo)

95 I saw someone on Twitter speculate that Romney is banking on Trump's removal from office and positioning himself for the 2020 nomination.

These assholes just don't get it. Trump or no Trump, nobody like Romney will ever get my vote again. Trump isn't just a temporary setback for them. They are done as far as the Presidency is concerned.

Posted by: Kensington at January 02, 2019 01:41 PM (oNjmf)

96 Milt Romney? Whose bitch is this?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 02, 2019 01:41 PM (Ba8GW)

97 They think "well who will clean your hotel rooms and pick your strawberries, huh wingnuts??" is a good argument.

This is one of those "let them eat cake" arguments; an argument from an elite who has no concept out out of touch they sound. "Who will nanny your children? Who will do your lawns?" Dude. ME.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 01:42 PM (39g3+)

98 The argument is two-fold:
1) We aren't having enough kids to support our ever ballooning welfare state, especially social security / medicare / medicaid. "

Nailed it.

This is part and parcel of much "western" thought post the "world wars", and it's demonstrably incorrect.

I've joked before that Merkel thinks that mo'hammed and abdul will work for hans and franz's retirements, but I'm kinda serious. Many western "leaders" think this.
Interestingly, they're the same ones puzzled at the lack of "crisis" in Japan over reductions in population...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 02, 2019 01:42 PM (6qErC)

99
Open Borders AND Endless Wars

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 02, 2019 01:42 PM (YM7io)

100 A borderless world is pretty much the definition of communism, isn't it?

Posted by: rickl at January 02, 2019 01:42 PM (xjiRE)

101 How's this counter-argument: Open borders and unchecked immigration to the West is a profoundly racist stance

After all, who is willing to immigrate - especially on a shoestring? Who is willing and able to make a dangerous trip with little or no backstop? The strong, that's who. Also the smart.

Our policy of unchecked immigration ensures that the West ends up with *all* of the third world's smartest and strongest. We'll get some vile duds, too, of course, but we often get their cream. This policy withholds their talents (strength and intelligence) from their own countries. This ensures that their own countries remain poor and ignorant. Unchecked immigration to the West is in essence a third-world brain drain and helps guarantee that the third world remains powerless and helpless - vassal serf states of the West.

Look at the Arab world. Arab intelligence as a race globally hasn't declined, but national average intelligence in the Arab world has - sometimes drastically (like in Yemen).

Take your "it's racist to be opposed to unchecked immigration" argument and cram it up your ass. Two can play this game.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 02, 2019 01:42 PM (I2dne)

102 Mark the tape: I'm never going back to the way it was. Ever.

Posted by: nip at January 02, 2019 01:42 PM (DfGpI)

103
when, a few decades from now, the white progressives find themselves vastly outnumbered by Catholic Hispanics.

Oooooooops.

Posted by: zombie at January 02, 2019 01:41 PM (c+2jX)
Honestly though, I prefer that to "Alloha Snackbar" screamin towel heads.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 02, 2019 01:42 PM (37IEG)

104 I don't think Romney, personally, gives a shit if he has to pay his help $12 an hour or $15 an hour.

Sure he does, that's how businessmen are successful: they care about the little things that add up.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 01:43 PM (39g3+)

105 97 They think "well who will clean your hotel rooms and pick your strawberries, huh wingnuts??" is a good argument.

This is one of those "let them eat cake" arguments; an argument from an elite who has no concept out out of touch they sound. "Who will nanny your children? Who will do your lawns?" Dude. ME.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 01:42 PM (39g3+)

Bingo.

Posted by: rickl at January 02, 2019 01:43 PM (xjiRE)

106 >>>Well, I think you could make biblical arguments for strong borders, but I don't think those are the best passages to chose to support it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2019 01:41 PM (AllCR)
________
Yes, there's plenty more to support it, but those three to compete the syllogism quickly.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at January 02, 2019 01:43 PM (oI6j8)

107 I know she is not very popular here, but Ann Coulter's "Adios, America" is what really flipped the light switch on for me.

I knew, intuitively that we were in trouble, but it was the difference between seeing murky but ominous shapes, and having the bright light go on in the room and having the real issue highlighted.

Ace's post is the next step - a crystal clear understanding that many of those we thought were our allies are not in fact on our side, but are indeed people who are not only diametrically opposed to our views, but hold us in contempt for having them.

Posted by: RM at January 02, 2019 01:44 PM (U3LtS)

108 Civil war seems inevitable... When borders and national identity are the question the answer historically, has been war. We are a united states or we are not.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at January 02, 2019 01:44 PM (0OmEj)

109 The other side of the immigration coin is abortion because the post-modern progressive woman doesn't want the burden of pregnancy and child rearing; they don't want to be trapped in the Handmadien's tale. They want to be out in the work place, as department head, making the right decisions, and making the big bucks.

In the progressive/liberal world there are only two classes; the elite (themselves), and the peasants. There is no middle class. And yet, the progressive/liberal, champion of the underclass in revolt against the elite, want to import the poor third world working poor who will revolt against the ruling class.

Does that seem right to you?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 02, 2019 01:44 PM (kJWoP)

110 I wonder if any of these experts have ever visited Mexico"

Yeah. The Rivera Maya is rather nice.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 02, 2019 01:44 PM (6qErC)

111 I don't believe they care whether it's racist or not, it's all about business not wanting to have that cheap labor on hand.

I believe they fear that if we can control the border, we'll get around to plugging the H1 and h2 visa holes also.

That's how Big Tech is making their Big Bucks.

Oh they'll claim it's racist but note where they live and who they hang out with and what they really do in their spare time.

They ain't hanging with the cholos down the corner.

Posted by: jakee308 at January 02, 2019 01:44 PM (cW5Gl)

112 We aren't having enough kids to support our ever ballooning welfare state, especially social security / medicare / medicaid.]

Yeah, that's the policy wonk argument. The idea that we should cut them back and control fraud and waste never is allowed, they simply want more to shovel into the fire as it builds larger and larger.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 01:44 PM (39g3+)

113 Well, I think you could make biblical arguments for strong borders, but I don't think those are the best passages to chose to support it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2019 01:41 PM (AllCR)

Man, you're bible shaming. Stop being a fascist!!!!

Posted by: SJW Impressionist at January 02, 2019 01:44 PM (F4u7C)

114 63 I'm ashamed that I voted Rombley in 2012. In hindsight, it made no difference but now I have the stench on me.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 02, 2019 01:37 PM (+y/Ru)

Eff that noise.

I am not ashamed that I voted for Romney, and neither should you. He sure as crap wasn't my first or second or even third choice, but unlike the man himself apparently, some of us are actually willing to make hard decisions and take our best shot at undoing all the damage the Dems and the GOPe have done to the country. That shot may not have been very good, and in hindsight perhaps it's a good thing that it didn't work out, but we shouldn't be sorry we tried. That's a heck of a lot more than Willard ever did.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 02, 2019 01:44 PM (Vgw1E)

115 Self propelled lawn mowers and the strawberry gin ftw.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 02, 2019 01:45 PM (Ba8GW)

116 These assholes just don't get it. Trump or no Trump, nobody like Romney will ever get my vote again. Trump isn't just a temporary setback for them. They are done as far as the Presidency is concerned.
=====
We get it. Romney's job is not and never was to win the Presidency. It never will be. He's our tool, he does what we say.

I'ma gonna get a new chassis, some fresh blood and "run" in 2020. Are you ready for Hillary2.0?

Posted by: Hillary! at January 02, 2019 01:45 PM (7zxWv)

117 'not wanting that cheap labor NOT on hand.'

Posted by: jakee308 at January 02, 2019 01:45 PM (cW5Gl)

118

Cheap Labor, Permanent Peasant Class, Cannon Fodder, and Arms Contracts

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 02, 2019 01:45 PM (YM7io)

119 Today the Left is praising Mitt Romney and condemning Jill Abramson

I think I'm now in that Bearded Spock universe

Posted by: kbdabear at January 02, 2019 01:45 PM (0Ntuf)

120 Look, dude, if you wanna be the most prominent Mormon in the country, perhaps you could act less homosexual?

Posted by: Every Other Mormon at January 02, 2019 01:45 PM (76Nxz)

121 93 I honestly don't get this. There are over 30 million illegal aliens in this country, there is no shortage of illegal, underpaid lawn care, day care, and maid service personnel to be had.

There has to be another reason for this deathwish for the country.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 02, 2019 01:41 PM (nEylt)

Social security is a big driver of this. The left will never admit that there is no lock box, and usually dance around the issue, but open borders types on our side have come right out and said it.

Here's Lindsey Graham getting all flustered at a debate and basically spelling out what the entire establishment thnks:
https://tinyurl.com/yd9uddjw

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 02, 2019 01:45 PM (GBteo)

122 I recall reading a Scott Walker interview (a guy I wanted to support) state that he was essentially required to stick with open borders because his biggest/primary donor insisted on it.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 02, 2019 01:41 PM (W+vEI)

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This is how we got the Congress we have, bought and paid for by the Donor class. This is also how we got Trump, a guy with enough FU money not to care about or need those donors.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 02, 2019 01:45 PM (ffYR/)

123 I think it's about not being racist, helping keep labor costs low across the country for "the economies sake," and trying to push off the impending social security system collapse for another generation, when he won't be in power.

(and this applies to all politicians who take his viewpoint)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 02, 2019 01:41 PM (GBteo)

And slavery was justified under the pretense that the poor ignorant savages were just not ready for civilization, and needed to be taught and guided by benevolent masters.

It doesn't matter what mental contortions they use to justify evil, evil is evil.

Purposefully destroying the livelihoods and lives of the citizens they ostensibly represent is not only evil, but it is the antithesis of the spirit of representative government, and runs a risk of destroying this country.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at January 02, 2019 01:45 PM (J+mig)

124 As God as my witness, I thought Romney was a Republican.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 02, 2019 01:46 PM (+y/Ru)

125 I don't know about biblical arguments.

The Old Testament is basically the Jews coming in and kicking ass and taking stuff.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 02, 2019 01:46 PM (xfb67)

126 What exactly is the Republican Party's position on illegal immigration?

I think it's so fractured that it is non-existent and Trump is the only one offering a viable solution.

Does Romney even have a plan to offer?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 02, 2019 01:46 PM (H7LIz)

127 Had a nightmare the other night.

Something about a new civil war. I was tired, cold, and one arm didn't work, but we were almost done. We were in the basement of the Capitol Rotunda. The remains of the Congress was rounded up and under our guns. Someone said, Republicans over here.

The well dressed, clean and fat Republicans were smiling and saying thank you for rescuing us as they gathered against a wall. Those of us with M3 grease guns lined up and shot them down. The leader said to the Democrats as they recoiled in horror, you will be sent to Europe. They deserve you. Don't come back, or you will be shot like these traitors.

Posted by: rd at January 02, 2019 01:46 PM (kfj5i)

128 I am not ashamed that I voted for Romney, and neither should you.

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I'm not ashamed. I made what I thought was the best choice. I no know I was wrong.

Never forget. We can never go back to propping up Uniparty stooges, now that we've elected a real American. No Republocrat will ever have my vote again. I'd be shamed if I did it again, seeing what I've seen now.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 02, 2019 01:46 PM (AzW6q)

129 And slavery was justified under the pretense that the poor ignorant savages were just not ready for civilization, and needed to be taught and guided by benevolent masters."

The "mud sill" theory of ... everything.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 02, 2019 01:46 PM (6qErC)

130 It's not just the racist! aspect, it's that, more fundamentally, these people ascribe to models of the world where there is no difference between a lower class American worker and a Guatemalan peasant. Labor is a large L in some economic equation that proves why we all (read, they all) benefit from free trade and the free movement of labor. Additionally, the upper-middle class and higher in the west have merged into this homogeneous blob of a culture.

The quant working on Wall St. has more in common with the investment banker in London than he does with his cousin the farmer in upstate NY.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at January 02, 2019 01:47 PM (wCmLp)

131 The Welfare State is a cornerstone of their power. Propping it up is a continuing priority for them. They need it even more than the 'little people' do.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 02, 2019 01:47 PM (gyL25)

132 As God as my witness, I thought Romney was a Republican."

But can he fly if kicked from a 'copter?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 02, 2019 01:47 PM (6qErC)

133 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 01:44 PM (39g3+)

The problem with the "they contribute to ss" argument is for every one doing so, 2 others are drawing all that they can in benefits.

Plus with the low pay our betters are paying them, they usually qualify for benefits themselves and when they file (if they do) they get more back than they contributed.

The Narrative Media doesn't mention that.

Posted by: jakee308 at January 02, 2019 01:47 PM (cW5Gl)

134 Compromise: Instead of "open borders" just tell me which countries the US should annex.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 02, 2019 01:47 PM (KUaJL)

135 i have great character.

build the wall.

Posted by: how do you like me now?! at January 02, 2019 01:48 PM (Wr4LW)

136 Take your "it's racist to be opposed to unchecked immigration" argument and cram it up your ass. Two can play this game.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 02, 2019 01:42 PM

This.

If the US is supposedly getting other countries' best and brightest, in what condition does that put the countries they left? What happens to Mexico, India, wherever, if they all high tail it for the US? Those home countries get worse. Ask the open borders supporter Why do you want Mexico to get worse? Why do you want India to lose its best doctors and engineers?

Posted by: Hands at January 02, 2019 01:48 PM (786Ro)

137
As God as my witness, I thought Romney was a Republican.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 02, 2019 01:46 PM (+y/Ru)

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That Turkey won't fly.

Posted by: rd at January 02, 2019 01:48 PM (kfj5i)

138 Oh and from the morning report, let's try and make Willard the label to stick on Mitt because he's such a rat.

Posted by: jakee308 at January 02, 2019 01:48 PM (cW5Gl)

139 It's now racist to say there is ANY negatives from immigration.

It seems odd that the tech fascists are so in favor of immigration as they are being replaced at high rates by cheap imported labor.

Until you realize it's that they are fighting to be the last rat on the flotsam, currying favor with the management hoping they'll be the last one replaced.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at January 02, 2019 01:48 PM (TN1P5)

140 I honestly don't get this. There are over 30 million illegal aliens in this country, there is no shortage of illegal, underpaid lawn care, day care, and maid service personnel to be had.

There has to be another reason for this deathwish for the country.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 02, 2019 01:41 PM

Simple. New voters. Black people are figuring out that the dems are full of shit and hurting them and not helping. They need fresh blood and people to become dependent on uncle sugar.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 02, 2019 01:48 PM (nAeGR)

141 Yeah, that's the policy wonk argument. The idea that we should cut them back and control fraud and waste never is allowed, they simply want more to shovel into the fire as it builds larger and larger.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 01:44 PM (39g3+)

Because it doesn't matter.

Social Security is an unfixable Ponzi scheme.

Why waste a ton of political capital to "fix fraud and reduce waste" when it changes nothing in the long term.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 02, 2019 01:48 PM (GBteo)

142 I am still trying to work out what it is exactly Romney hopes to accomplish in the senate. Guy could have retired and taken care of his wife and enjoyed his golden years. Instead he is getting his jollies on trolling Trump and schmoozing in DC.

Politics must be one hellufa drug. Once you get one hit, you are addicted for life apparently.

Were he still alive, Ben Franklin would be hitting all these GOPe scum trying to destroy the spirit of America with his cane until it knocked sense into them.

Posted by: LizLem at January 02, 2019 01:48 PM (Myxyb)

143 98
The argument is two-fold:

1) We aren't having enough kids to support our ever ballooning
welfare state, especially social security / medicare / medicaid. "

Nailed it.

This is part and parcel of much "western" thought post the "world wars", and it's demonstrably incorrect.

I've joked before that Merkel thinks that mo'hammed and abdul will
work for hans and franz's retirements, but I'm kinda serious. Many
western "leaders" think this.

Interestingly, they're the same ones puzzled at the lack of "crisis" in Japan over reductions in population...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 02, 2019 01:42 PM (6qErC)

How is the importation of 30 million illegals going to pay off SS and welfare? 75% of them go on welfare and 50% of that 75% never go off. they pay no SS or any other tax. They are being let in by the Democrats because the blacks are finally seeing the light and leaving their plantation. The Democrat Party is assuring they have a future voter base,

Posted by: Vic at January 02, 2019 01:48 PM (mpXpK)

144 Twitter gets heated most times. The moment Trump hesitated on funding the Wall Twitter didn't get incandecent, it went thermonuclear. I never saw so broad a base get so angry so quickly. A day later Lindsey Graham came out swinging. Even Rubio came out for funding. Sure as shit felt like they got the message that " Trump's Base" on this was just about every fucking soul they expect to turn out for them come election time. If Romney even hints about this his primary numbers will make Gary Johnson feel like a playa.

Posted by: Mac at January 02, 2019 01:48 PM (fOoQ8)

145 The Baja is the Sudetenland.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 02, 2019 01:49 PM (Ba8GW)

146 126
What exactly is the Republican Party's position on illegal immigration?

I think it's so fractured that it is non-existent and Trump is the only one offering a viable solution.

Does Romney even have a plan to offer?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 02, 2019 01:46 PM (H7LIz)
They're working on it! Really! As soon as they get the House, the Senate, the entire Supreme Court, the Presidency, all the lawyers over in the DOJ, the State Department, at least half of the CIA, 75% of the FBI, etc.
But without those things, they just can't get it done! So make sure you send your money to the RNC and vote Republican! No matter how bad that shit sandwich seems to taste!

Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 02, 2019 01:49 PM (37IEG)

147 2 years, these hacks had all 11 chambers of govt!

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 02, 2019 01:49 PM (xfb67)

148 Word of an open border appears to have reached Zod's Aztecs, and they've become restive. I discovered that one had a homemade radio concealed under his bedroll. He was punished, but seemed more resentful than abject.

This human-floodwater propaganda must stop.

Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 01:49 PM (Bdeb0)

149 Oh, let me count the ways I absolutely hate everything Mitt Romney. Here is the deal on immigration:

Rule #1: You cannot manage what you cannot control. Thus, the government must do whatever is necessary (e.g. wall) to close the border so we can manage immigration effectively.

Rule #2: How many immigrants are admitted and what status they have once admitted (guest worker or path to citizenship) is the subject of legitimate debate. I'm open to hear arguments on this front, provided that it's made clear that organized importation of Progressive voters is not a legitimate basis for admitting new citizens.

Rule #3: Progressives want to import Progressive voters in numbers significant enough to achieve political victories for Progressives. "Open Borders" married with South-of-the-Border community organizing is the surest path to this goal, which is why the Left is has been working on it at "Ahead Flank" for 20 years, with results now registering the upper range of the Pareto curve. In short, this strategy is and has been wildly successful, and is even more so each passing day. Frankly, I think we were already too late about 5 years ago.

Rule #4: Because of Rule #3, Progressives will never agree to Rule #1 or Rule #2.

Rule #5: GOP elected politicians should have seen the mortal threat of Rule #3 fifteen years ago. They have no excuse for missing it now. It's unmissable. That GOP elected politicians don't do something about it can only be explained by money-in-politics: Big donors want open borders for business reasons and because many Big Donors are progressive and want to achieve the long-game of Progressive victory. GOP leaders are, and have been for years, lazy as fuck when it comes to raising money for GOP elections. It's far easier to raise large $ from small pool of donors than to raise large $ from individual donors. Bottomline: Immigration issue won't get solved on GOP side until GOP leadership determines that maintaining status quo on fundraising strategy won't result in getting re-elected.

That is all.

Posted by: RichardWindsor at January 02, 2019 01:49 PM (db5dt)

150 Question: if we found out that millions of Russian nationals were trying come to the US yearly, would the left be so quick to welcome them?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 02, 2019 01:49 PM (KUaJL)

151 Walls will be built. Either on the border or around millions of individual homes. One of the depressing things about visiting Mexico is the walls and fences and barbed wire. Everywhere. Even in 'good' areas.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at January 02, 2019 01:35 PM (3bnBu)

I used to cruise past Mexico a lot back in the good old days.

What I'd give for one final voyage...

Posted by: Krying Kaptain Kristol 🚢 -> 🚣 at January 02, 2019 01:49 PM (mvp+a)

152 Breaking911 @Breaking911
BREAKING: Trump: "government could be shut down for a long time, as long as it takes"

Posted by: Mitt Romney AKA John McCain at January 02, 2019 01:50 PM (BqBId)

153 Don't forget "free trade". It's also all about free trade.

Posted by: ejochs at January 02, 2019 01:50 PM (lSFMQ)

154 The Jews spend a fair amount of time getting whupped for their disobedience. They and the patriarchs get to illustrate many of the follies of mankind and the consequences thereof.

Posted by: Someguy at January 02, 2019 01:50 PM (h5Df3)

155 Posted by: rd at January 02, 2019 01:46 PM (kfj5i)

That's a dream I could get behind.

Posted by: jakee308 at January 02, 2019 01:50 PM (cW5Gl)

156 Open borders are not compassionate, its bad for the people of the country and the people who are coming over the borders to become exploited by less-than-scrupulous farms and businesses.

This is the kind of thing like "don't let your kid do whatever they want" or "don't let your kid eat candy for dinner." It seems mean (particularly to the kid) but in the end its good for them and they will be better for it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 01:50 PM (39g3+)

157 Ace is right all the time and infrequently wrong, and im losing hope that his conviction that we need a national divorce is something he'll end up being wrong about.

Posted by: phone of kari at January 02, 2019 01:50 PM (HsbmX)

158 currying favor "

Snort.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 02, 2019 01:50 PM (6qErC)

159 Transborder Industrial Mastic Human Flypaper Array.

Now more than ever.

Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 01:50 PM (Bdeb0)

160 If the US is supposedly getting other countries' best and brightest, in what condition does that put the countries they left?

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You practically have to get on your knees and beg for an Israeli engineer to come here - the big tech companies build campuses in Israel, because they can't get those world-class engineers to move.

Developed countries don't bleed their best people out to us. This is just farming the third-world like they were human cattle.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 02, 2019 01:50 PM (AzW6q)

161 I've joked before that Merkel thinks that mo'hammed and abdul will work for hans and franz's retirements, but I'm kinda serious.
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The joke is on Merkel. I guess she and her ilk don't know that Mo and Abdul's religion tells them that they can live off the tax Hanz and Franz have to pay for not being muslim. Its Mo and Adbul who think they get to live in the state of perpetual retirement since Hanz and Franz have to pay for the privilege of not being muslim.

Its almost as if the elites aren't, you know, elite. At. All.

Posted by: What could possibly go wrong! at January 02, 2019 01:51 PM (GEJub)

162 The problem with the "they contribute to ss" argument is for every one doing so, 2 others are drawing all that they can in benefits.

Plus with the low pay our betters are paying them, they usually qualify for benefits themselves and when they file (if they do) they get more back than they contributed.

The Narrative Media doesn't mention that.
Posted by: jakee308 at January 02, 2019 01:47 PM (cW5Gl)

Right. No one said it was a good plan.

But it's all they've got right now.

And again -- the goal isn't to "save social security," it's just to make sure that they're not in office when it collapses.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 02, 2019 01:51 PM (GBteo)

163 You saw this during the caravan.

Because of American racist imperialist interventions in Latin America, **every** resident of Latin America deserves asylum in the United States.

Posted by: The ARC of History at January 02, 2019 01:51 PM (I2/tG)

164 I think it's about not being racist, helping keep labor costs low across the country for "the economies sake," and trying to push off the impending social security system collapse for another generation, when he won't be in power.

Why should they be any more honest or courageous than European politicians? They turn a blind eye to rising crime and sexual assault, even blaming the victims. They stole from bank accounts to stave off financial ruin (haircuts). This will not fall apart on their watch, and they will be immune from the consequences, much like the Broward coward who got away with saving his fat ass, getting over $7K in pension and benefits monthly, AND he got police protection, which the dead kids didn't get.

Posted by: Blue Hen at January 02, 2019 01:51 PM (e1q4h)

165 as I have said before. Let these open border advocates try to just plonk down in France, Japan, or Chile, see what happens. If not those countries try it in Egypt, Norway, or New Zealand. These people are unsound and only after personal gain, they don't really care about anyone but themselves.

Posted by: Quint at January 02, 2019 01:51 PM (n13/j)

166 How long until the bastard people lose their EBT?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 02, 2019 01:51 PM (Ba8GW)

167 YUP.

AOC had out some tweets today about her wish list and it's the usual free stuff for everyone crap and my reply was, you know what? Good on her for putting out there directly what she believes and then trying, bless her, to defend her beliefs.

At least she's freaking *honest* about what she wants. Let's have that fight. That's a fight worth having and we should have it openly.

It's Trump saying to Schumer and Pelosi hey let's have the argument about the wall right here and right now.

This is important. Hell, Trump is right, without sovereignty over our borders we have no country at all. It doesn't get much more fundamental than that.

So let's have that argument but let's do it openly and with no prevarications.

I need to be less energy efficient and put together a list of all the laws that have been passed since the Kennedy changes to immigration in the 1960's (1962?) and how many of them included, as statutory text, the requirement for a physical barrier. Because Build The Wall is not some brand new demand. There have been multiple pieces of legislation passed over several decades stating that just such a wall should be built. And then no money is ever appropriated for it.

Stop. Lying. Say what you mean. Look, for all that I loathe David French, at least he's honest that he thinks he's an actual Christian and I'm not because ew Trump. That may be utterly Pharastical but it's honest.

It's back to the but he fights sneering. Yes, Trump fights. Because there are things worth fighting for. Romney and his ilk appear to be the only things worth fighting are other Republicans. Duly noted.

Also AARRRGGGHH ORCA ARRRRGGGHH

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at January 02, 2019 01:51 PM (mf5HN)

168 >>>125 I don't know about biblical arguments.

The Old Testament is basically the Jews coming in and kicking ass and taking stuff.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 02, 2019 01:46 PM (xfb67)
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A lot happens after Exodus and the genocide of the Caananites.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at January 02, 2019 01:51 PM (oI6j8)

169 I think people like Rubio are bought, and that's why they can't be trusted.

Their millionaire benefactors insist on open borders and he shrugs
and say, "Sure, I can sell this." Does Rubio understand the consequences
of open borders? Doesn't matter: he doesn't care about the
consequences, it's not as important as winning.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 02, 2019 01:36 PM (W+vEI)

Most pols fit in one of two categories: They're in on the elite Globalist World Order, or they're paid stooges of the Globalist World Order.

Rooby Oh is the latter.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 02, 2019 01:51 PM (a2xio)

170 Simple. New voters. Black people are figuring out that the dems are full of shit and hurting them and not helping. They need fresh blood and people to become dependent on uncle sugar.

Posted by: Minnfidel

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Actually, I don't think they care about voters. Based on the census numbers adding in illegals, congressmen get the representation without having to get the votes.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 02, 2019 01:52 PM (nEylt)

171 They and the patriarchs get to illustrate many of the follies of mankind and the consequences thereof.

The children of Israel in the Exodus and settlement of Israel are so annoying, obstinate, blind, stupid, and treacherous toward God, its a perfect example of my heart and human nature writ large.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 01:52 PM (39g3+)

172 How is the importation of 30 million illegals going to pay off SS and welfare?"

It's not, but many seem to claim that doing so will, as illegals will somehow (they're never quite clear on this, but it's accepted as gospel) expand the economy.

Seriously. I've had wonkish sorts in DC try to 'splain that.

They fail.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 02, 2019 01:53 PM (6qErC)

173 124 As God as my witness, I thought Romney was a Republican.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 02, 2019 01:46 PM (+y/Ru)

Heck, I remember 2008, when we all wanted Mitt over McLame for the GOP Primary. My things have changed for Mittens.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 02, 2019 01:53 PM (ujg0T)

174 Open borders are important to the establishment because if they get that, then they no longer have any reason to care what we think.

Capt' Cuck Kristol has openly stated that he prefers immigrants to working-class Americans.

It's what the ruling class thinks, but most of them have the sense to not actually say that in public.

Posted by: The ARC of History at January 02, 2019 01:53 PM (I2/tG)

175 On a more upbeat note, the New Horizons press conference is about to start. They should have photos by now.

https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html#public

Posted by: rickl at January 02, 2019 01:53 PM (xjiRE)

176 I'm not sure why the left is so concerned about Russian bots hacking the election. If Putin really wanted, the left's policies would let him personally physically vote.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 02, 2019 01:53 PM (KUaJL)

177 the genocide of the Caananites.
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at January 02, 2019 01:51 PM (oI6j

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2019 01:53 PM (Y+V3r)

178 Actually, I don't think they care about voters.
Based on the census numbers adding in illegals, congressmen get the
representation without having to get the votes.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 02, 2019 01:52 PM (nEylt)
This, you just have to preserve the voting cadre that puts you in office. The others are just Stalin's numbering system.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 02, 2019 01:53 PM (37IEG)

179 >>>Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at January 02, 2019 01:51 PM (mf5HN)

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Too long to fully quote but too good to ignore

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at January 02, 2019 01:53 PM (oI6j8)

180 Blind squirrel, nut. You do the math.

CNN's Harry Enten: Elizabeth Warren Is 'Below-Par Candidate'

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 02, 2019 01:53 PM (+y/Ru)

181 Rubio. The foam rises to the top.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 02, 2019 01:53 PM (Ba8GW)

182 losing not just our common culture American identity--that's pretty much gone
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If you don't believe this just look up at the signs above the aisles in Wal Mart.

Posted by: PJ at January 02, 2019 01:53 PM (qlTN9)

183 48 For some its not about race. Its about cheap, exploitable labor. The might use race to sanctify their real position, but honestly they don't give a damn about race.
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I don't give a damn about race either. There are many Chinese illegal aliens, Saudi illegal aliens, Irish illegal aliens, etc., and they should all be deported, along with the hispanic illegal aliens.

It's not fair to legal immigrants, it's not fair to people going through the process to become legal immigrants, and most of all it's not fair to U.S. citizens and taxpayers, to continue to reward illegal aliens for their law breaking.

Either the rule of law means something or it doesn't, and if we're going to continue to have a two-tiered system where law-breaking foreigners are routinely treated as a protected class and afforded more rights and privileges than law-abiding, taxpaying citizens, then we're headed for a complete societal breakdown, because Americans are not going to put up with being played for suckers indefinitely.

Trump was just the first salvo. It's your move, a-hole leftists.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 02, 2019 01:53 PM (fqUgw)

184 Have our Betters figured how exactly a pipeline of immigrant workers will save Social Security when ( 1 ) Automation will replace their jobs, and ( 2 ) Many of them don't even have jobs in the first place but rather are getting monetary benefits from the same government that is supposed to fund Social Security?

Posted by: Hands at January 02, 2019 01:54 PM (786Ro)

185 Don't forget "free trade". It's also all about free trade.

Which is also about accessing people who will work for pennies, then bringing the products back here to sell to us.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 02, 2019 01:54 PM (gyL25)

186 How is the importation of 30 million illegals going to pay off SS and welfare? 75% of them go on welfare and 50% of that 75% never go off. they pay no SS or any other tax. They are being let in by the Democrats because the blacks are finally seeing the light and leaving their plantation. The Democrat Party is assuring they have a future voter base,
Posted by: Vic at January 02, 2019 01:48 PM (mpXpK)

That's why there's such a push to legalize them and put them on the books. So they can pay FICA taxes.

But, and here's a BIG but -- what the fuck makes these people so sure that given the option of being off the books and getting paid cash, or being on the books and having to pay for taxes and workers comp and health insurance and licenses and everything else, people will choose to go on the books?

...And of course, they never mention the other side of the equation -- many of these people will be drawing out of the system soon (or immediately), while paying very little in.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 02, 2019 01:54 PM (GBteo)

187 Posted by: LizLem at January 02, 2019 01:48 PM

Power is a drug to these loons. Look at McCain. Teddy the K etc. Look at how many others literally die in office. If I knew I was on the short side of being here I would go spend it with family and friends. Go fishing etc.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 02, 2019 01:54 PM (nAeGR)

188 >>the follies of mankind

History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of man. Spitting high-tension wires, screaming bug-eyed, etc.

Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 01:54 PM (Bdeb0)

189 It's not, but many seem to claim that doing so will, as illegals will somehow (they're never quite clear on this, but it's accepted as gospel) expand the economy.

The same people who say that education is critical, and that every person should go to college, then turn around and say that we need to import millions of uneducated Latin American peasants "to benefit the economy".

Cheap labor and Democratic votes, that's all it is.

Posted by: The ARC of History at January 02, 2019 01:55 PM (I2/tG)

190 My comment two threads ago was willowed, but Romney the Corporate Raider was really not about making business better an more streamlined, it was about stealing the capital from companies that didn't leverage heavily into (risky) debt.

The raiders collected that cash, and took the company to their chop shop, and sold the pieces into Asia where they could use slaves (like the good old days) .. and they could freely pollute ... not deal with human rights lawyers or our legacy retirement costs.

Nothing brilliant about that .. it was extraction of wealth into the hands of leveraged gamblers (TooBigToFail or Jail). These Corzine type gamblers had DC bought and paid for ... paid to ignore the will of the people, and to ignore the future of our liberty, to ignore crimes of the hedge funds (The Big Short).

Globalism was sold to US as "Free Trade will save the World", and we now see just how free it made China and other commie regimes. (and how unfree America has now become, as evidenced by the universities or media). The globalists are now exposed ... but they have the money and power to not care ... even some of the leftists are beginning to "get it" to some degree.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 02, 2019 01:55 PM (Cus5s)

191 What nonsense! Don't listen to this "Ace" character.

It's because ten years before he ran for president, he screwed a Playboy playmate and a chick with big tits.

That's why I oppose him. Believe me!

Look, how can anyone support a person who ten years before he ran for president screwed a Playboy playmate and a chick with big tits?

C'mon people, let's face it, sometimes you have trouble thinking. Just let me be your Thought Leader, and do your thinking for you.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 02, 2019 01:55 PM (DuAZ5)

192 I hope that article on Universal Values shows up today, Ace.

Fact of the matter is these people want us dead. Full stop. If you don't or won't believe it, you're delusional (not aimed at Ace I'm saying this in a general sense).

The tribalism stuff is real, folks. You may not be interested in it, but it's interested in you.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 02, 2019 01:55 PM (4ErVI)

193 Well, open borders means cheap labor for Our Betters, and guarantees that the GOPe are always a minority and never actually have to do their job and lead.

So it's a bonus for them. They are permanent kabuki players and get cheap labor for their business interests.

They also scream about Trump because he is not a Professional Politician. Which they hate.

/"psychiatrist specializing in politically related disorders" should be a job title

Posted by: zombie Carl Jung at January 02, 2019 01:55 PM (OXL6p)

194 I guess she and her ilk don't know that Mo and Abdul's religion"

Of course they do. It's the "Religion of Peace", dontchaknow?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 02, 2019 01:56 PM (6qErC)

195 Heck, I remember 2008, when we all wanted Mitt over McLame for the GOP Primary. My things have changed for Mittens.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 02, 2019 01:53
PM

Well to be fair it was a choice between a shit sandwich and a shit sandwich with sugar on top.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 02, 2019 01:56 PM (nAeGR)

196 Ace is right all the time and infrequently wrong, and im losing hope that his conviction that we need a national divorce
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"National divorce" is just denial talking. After some acceptance, "national divorce" becomes civil war.

That's how bad things are. Things that can not continue, won't.

You get a "divorce" when there is a rule of law and disinterested third party's with the authority and power to make decisions and enforce them. We don't have that. Without that, all you have is domestic violence. Domestic violence on a national scale is called "Civil War".

Happy New Year Everybody!

Posted by: simplemind at January 02, 2019 01:56 PM (GEJub)

197 mighty mitt is nothing more than a frustrated 71 has been

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2019 01:56 PM (Y+V3r)

198 184 Have our Betters figured how exactly a pipeline of immigrant workers will save Social Security when ( 1 ) Automation will replace their jobs, and ( 2 ) Many of them don't even have jobs in the first place but rather are getting monetary benefits from the same government that is supposed to fund Social Security?
Posted by: Hands at January 02, 2019 01:54 PM (786Ro)

No, no one can figure that part out.

They hope it all just kind of works out. At least long enough so that when it does become a problem, it's the next generation of politicians problem, not theirs.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 02, 2019 01:57 PM (GBteo)

199 >>>177 the genocide of the Caananites.
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at January 02, 2019 01:51 PM (oI6j

?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2019 01:53 PM (Y+V3r)
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Pick up yer damn Bible boy. They were the evil people ordered to be exterminated so the Judeans could claim their promised no land

https://tinyurl.com/y8d3kgfm

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at January 02, 2019 01:57 PM (oI6j8)

200 What was the point of showing up at the polls in 2012 if a Romney Presidency would have borne the same fruit as Four more years of Barry?

Posted by: Surfperch at January 02, 2019 01:57 PM (mvp+a)

201 Actually, I don't think they care about voters. Based on the census numbers adding in illegals, congressmen get the representation without having to get the votes.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 02, 2019 01:52 PM (nEylt)

This. Here in CA we have more than a few districts that are "Rotton Boroughs" like the Brit Parliament pre 1832 reform act. And not just illegals either. Lots of Resident Aliens in CA.

Which is why the Census should just count *US Citizens* for representation.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 02, 2019 01:57 PM (ujg0T)

202 Actually, the real unstated objective is that the American ruling class hopes that by importing millions of Latin Americans, we will also import Latin American systems of governance.

Democracy places constraints on the ruling class that the ruling class doesn't approve of - having a political system like Mexico's or Guatemala's would be far more congenial to them.

California is already half-way there, in terms of a political transformation.

Posted by: The ARC of History at January 02, 2019 01:57 PM (I2/tG)

203 A borderless world is pretty much the definition of communism, isn't it?
Posted by: rickl at January 02, 2019 01:42 PM (xjiRE)

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And capitalism!

Posted by: Undocumented at January 02, 2019 01:57 PM (iQKgg)

204 31 I'll say one thing about the dems: they don't brook no treason.Before anyone becomes a problem, they get "Seth Rich'd" and everyone of those asshole understands this.
Posted by: Old Dude at January 02, 2019 01:33 PM (LGXGf)

Heh, dems don't brook no treason.
The irony is intense in dem.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 02, 2019 01:58 PM (1g7ch)

205 A Chinese General has stated publicly that they need to sink 2 USN carriers.

Posted by: backbeat baby at January 02, 2019 01:58 PM (w7KSn)

206 Holy Land. Not no land.

Damn autocorrect.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at January 02, 2019 01:58 PM (oI6j8)

207 History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of man. Spitting high-tension wires, screaming bug-eyed, etc.
Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 01:54 PM (Bdeb0)

Godzirra......

Posted by: Asian Man on his Death Bed at January 02, 2019 01:58 PM (F4u7C)

208 "National divorce" is just denial talking. After some acceptance, "national divorce" becomes civil war.

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This is right. But I'm still in favor of the divorce, because when the war is over we can treat with the enemy as a conquered foreign nation, and impose a Carthaginian peace on them.

Burn them, burn the ashes, and salt the earth.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 02, 2019 01:58 PM (AzW6q)

209 If you haven't done it in a while, consider calling the Whitehouse or sending an e-mail saying that you support border control and enforcement.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2019 01:58 PM (AllCR)

210 Rubio. The foam rises to the top.

So do those kernels of corn that come loose in your shit, and refuse to flush.

Posted by: clutch cargo at January 02, 2019 01:58 PM (6PYRI)

211 Ah, how I look forward to the slums of New York being replaced by the slums like those of Rio de Janeiro. Where working Americans scavenge the trash heaps in search of useful items the walled elite have discarded.

We'll have paved streets until they pavement cracks and crumbles, and then we can go back to the shanty town shitholes our immigrant friends are so familiar with.

When there's no interest by the haves in fixing the infrastructure or the grid because the local savages are constantly destroying and scavenging it for their hovels.

Venezuela here we come! Workers Paradise!

Posted by: DamnedYankee at January 02, 2019 01:59 PM (37IEG)

212 Pick up yer damn Bible boy. They were the evil people ordered to be exterminated so the Judeans could claim their promised no land

https://tinyurl.com/y8d3kgfm
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at January 02, 2019 01:57 PM (oI6j

I don't have to pick up my damn Bible. It's an inappropriate use of a word totally out of context with what happened in olden days

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2019 01:59 PM (Y+V3r)

213 The pile-of-dogshit, useless GOPee is a perfect example of O'Sullivan's First Law: "Any institution that is not explicitly right wing will become left wing over time."

Posted by: Shains -- Oppression Olympics non-medalist at January 02, 2019 01:59 PM (9Oiym)

214 At least McCain had the self respect to die and go to hell after losing to Bathouse Barry.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 02, 2019 01:59 PM (Ba8GW)

215 206 A Chinese General has stated publicly that they need to sink 2 USN carriers.

Posted by: backbeat baby at January 02, 2019 01:58 PM (w7KSn)

How do they intend to stop at 2? Either you get all of them or you don't start at all. Aiming for 2 is planning to fail.

Posted by: Someguy at January 02, 2019 02:00 PM (h5Df3)

216 well, I'm glad someone in the GOP intellectual class gets it.

The lefts' new position comprises:

1. America is a nation of immigrants who will come here next week from non-white, non-Christian nations.

2. America as you know it was and is immoral because it was primarily white and christian.

3. any defense of "old" america is inherently racist.

4. American citizenship is the only form of charity available to the world's poor.

5. And nooo...giving millions of american citizenships away a year to people who have no concept of western civilization will not change america...although don't listen to us as we cheer on the changing of american voting patterns by the newly imported masses, you racist.

So, do you wanna swallow that and play along?

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at January 02, 2019 02:00 PM (7J5t2)

217 It's not, but many seem to claim that doing so will, as illegals will somehow (they're never quite clear on this, but it's accepted as gospel) expand the economy.
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Heritage estimates that illegal aliens receive $3 in taxpayer benefits for every $1 they spend here.

So importing millions more poor illegal aliens won't expand the economy nearly as much as it will expand . . . . . the size and power of government.

(As a bonus, it will also expand the size of your tax bill).

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 02, 2019 02:00 PM (fqUgw)

218 maybe we're doing it wrong. maybe we should be deporting these open border "elites" who are loyal to 3rd worlders.

Posted by: x at January 02, 2019 02:00 PM (nFwvY)

219 What was the point of showing up at the polls in 2012 if a Romney Presidency would have borne the same fruit as Four more years of Barry?
Posted by: Surfperch at January 02, 2019 01:57 PM (mvp+a)

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I'm now of the opinion that a 2012 Romney Presidency would have given us 8 years of Felonia in 2016.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 02, 2019 02:00 PM (ffYR/)

220
Romney keeps reminding me of this scene from "Chariots of Fire" ..

Harold Abrahams: The evening has been most illuminating.
Good night to you, sir.
You know, gentlemen ... you yearn for victory, just as I do.
But achieved with the apparent effortlessness of gods.
Yours are the archaic values of the prep school playground.
You deceive no one but yourselves.
I believe in the pursuit of excellence ... and I'll carry the future with me.

Posted by: SMOD at January 02, 2019 02:00 PM (QkjLD)

221 what I don't get about Mitch is he was, in 2012, the most conservative and border-realist GOP candidate available.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at January 02, 2019 02:00 PM (7J5t2)

222 Blind squirrel, nut. You do the math.

CNN's Harry Enten: Elizabeth Warren Is 'Below-Par Candidate'
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

Or,

They realize that she's a pinata to Trump AND she has high name recognition, and that her, Harris and Clinton will result in the World's first catfight that NOONE wants to watch?

Posted by: Blue Hen at January 02, 2019 02:01 PM (e1q4h)

223 >>Actually, I don't think they care about voters. Based on the census numbers adding in illegals, congressmen get the representation without having to get the votes.

This is where the "Importing Revolution" comes in:

One sign of an imperial government is that it does what it wishes with whole populations. . .

The motives behind moving whole populations via executive fiat break down into two main categories. One is to prevent revolution and unrest by moving and quarantining what are considered indigestible peoples in order to weaken their resistance to the powers that be. . .
But there is a second reason for moving people around, and that is to foster revolution by actively promoting unrest. The goal is to achieve "fundamental transformation" of a country by tearing down existing structures, replacing them with a new order of government.

New population = new problems that require *their* desired solutions.

This is what Obama started with the unaccompanied minors shenanigans - think of how much new government was implemented to respond to that.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 02, 2019 02:01 PM (W+vEI)

224 okay...what is willowed?

Posted by: PJ at January 02, 2019 02:01 PM (qlTN9)

225 It's two objects touching! Didn't I say something about that yesterday?

Posted by: rickl at January 02, 2019 02:02 PM (xjiRE)

226 They're not stupid. They are evil. End of story. Mitt Romney is evil.
Bill Kristol is evil. Jonah Goldberg is evil. The Bush family is evil.
Just as evil as the Democrats.

Get it out. It's OK to say that they're evil and you hate them. Just let yourself say it.

These people are working behind the scenes together, selling out
their countrymen so they can farm third-worlders on what used to be our
land for money, votes, and cheap labor.

It's sick, it's wrong and people who do this are evil.

Beautifully stated.

And until McTurtle is scooped out of his shell and made into soup , nothing will change.

Posted by: mikeyG at January 02, 2019 02:02 PM (LL1Be)

227 Elizabeth Warren has launched her trail of tears tour.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 02, 2019 02:02 PM (Ba8GW)

228 What was the point of showing up at the polls in 2012 if a Romney Presidency would have borne the same fruit as Four more years of Barry?

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look, no one would've been worse than Barry 2012-2016, not even occasional cortex.

-the rise of ISIS, the slaughter of thousands.
-more immigrants, DACA which is now unstoppable
-nuclear iran
-judges the GOP was too cowardly to stop
-the deficit
-bad economics that strangled many peoples' lives and led to a lost generation of baristas.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at January 02, 2019 02:02 PM (7J5t2)

229 what I don't get about Mitch is he was, in 2012, the most conservative and border-realist GOP candidate available.

I told them to just build the danged wall already!

Posted by: Pres. John zombie McCain at January 02, 2019 02:02 PM (e1q4h)

230 Holy crap, it really is Romney Day here.

Do we get decorative napkins and plates with his picture on them?

Better yet, toilet paper.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at January 02, 2019 02:02 PM (cfSRQ)

231
I don't have to pick up my damn Bible. It's an inappropriate use of a word totally out of context with what happened in olden days

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2019 01:59 PM (Y+V3r)

God don't play tiddlywinks when it comes to wiping out immoral civilizations. Can civilizations be asking for it? I say yes. Sufficient quantity of human sacrifice and child diddling and all the death warrants are signed.

Posted by: Someguy at January 02, 2019 02:02 PM (h5Df3)

232 Have our Betters figured how exactly a pipeline of immigrant workers will save Social Security when ( 1 ) Automation will replace their jobs, and ( 2 ) Many of them don't even have jobs in the first place but rather are getting monetary benefits from the same government that is supposed to fund Social Security?
Posted by: Hands at January 02, 2019 01:54 PM (786Ro)

No, no one can figure that part out.

They hope it all just kind of works out. At least long enough so that when it does become a problem, it's the next generation of politicians problem, not theirs.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 02, 2019 01:57 PM (GBteo)

I have had someone tell me, earnestly, and with all appearances of believing what he was saying and thinking it was a good idea, that illegals will save Social Security because they are having FICA withheld from their paychecks via fraudulent SSNs and the use of TINs but they will never collect so it is a net positive that will make SS solvent!

Me: Wait, so you're saying that mass scale identify theft is going to save SS?

Him: No, no, no, using an incorrect SSN to have money withheld via FICA isn't identity theft!

That was when I nodded politely and exited the conversation because holy crap how do you even reply to that other than with you cannot possibly be that stupid.

Yes, yes, he was an economics professor, how did you guess?

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at January 02, 2019 02:03 PM (mf5HN)

233
I fight hard for my benefits. Every November somebody picks me up and drives me to the polls and I vote. That's fighting. That old dude who got his first job at 16 years of age and worked for the next 50 years then climbs on Social Security like he's somehow 'entitled' to it?

Makes me sick.

Posted by: Hard-Core Lazy Leftist at January 02, 2019 02:03 PM (jYje5)

234 226 okay...what is willowed?

Posted by: PJ at January 02, 2019 02:01 PM (qlTN9)

Willard.

Willard is the correct phrase.

Posted by: blaster at January 02, 2019 02:03 PM (9VeU0)

235 Tit Romney was my last RINO vote. He solidified for me that I would no longer vote for Dem Lite ever again. Backstabbing Shit Romney. So glad he never got near the oval office. Glad he reminded me of why I will never vote RINO again. Thanks Tit.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 02, 2019 02:03 PM (nAeGR)

236 Elizabeth Warren has launched her trail of tears tour.
Posted by: Boss Moss

Might I suggest 'trail of beers tour'?

Posted by: Ain't politics grand? at January 02, 2019 02:03 PM (e1q4h)

237 Romney, McCain, Teddy the K --
Why should we give two cents what they think? Seems to me these 3 assclowns are all LOSERS. They all lost their shot at being POTUS. And this means we should line up behind them and listen to their wisdom?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 02, 2019 02:03 PM (jxbfJ)

238 >> okay...what is willowed?

Do you want the Definition or the Full Experience?

Posted by: Tom Ford at January 02, 2019 02:03 PM (OaqE8)

239 Romney is not a Christian.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at January 02, 2019 01:38 PM (oI6j

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No, he's not. He's a Mormon. They claim to be Christians, but objectively aren't.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at January 02, 2019 02:04 PM (cfSRQ)

240 >>God don't play tiddlywinks when it comes to wiping out immoral civilizations. Can civilizations be asking for it? I say yes. Sufficient quantity of human sacrifice and child diddling and all the death warrants are signed. Posted by: Someguy at January 02, 2019 02:02 PM (h5Df3)

Beautifully mutated.

Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 02:04 PM (Bdeb0)

241 Suppose Trump uses the shutdown to delay EBT to a few certain districts in CA?

And the rioters are not speaking English at all ...

You all watch your asses, that is about to happen.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at January 02, 2019 02:04 PM (TN1P5)

242 "They only gain the courage to state these beliefs forthrightly when, like Max Boot, they officially defect to the liberal Democrat camp."

So it's official then? Hasn't he defected like six or seven times already? It's like a subscription with him. Every few months, he has to renew his bona fides to NeoStatism.

WRT Romney in particular, f*** him in his ear. How many faces can a rat have, BTW? It has to be more than two.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at January 02, 2019 02:04 PM (6eEQ+)

243 No, no one can figure that part out. "

A few years ago some twatwaffle from the Brookings bunch said that Obama legalizing 5 million plus would be a boost for the working population and would be good for the SS trust fund bc. "net migration" of "young and working" were a positive, and that immigrants were the "lifeblood" of the economy.

So yeah, the giraffes really believe that shiite.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 02, 2019 02:04 PM (6qErC)

244 Heritage estimates that illegal aliens receive $3 in taxpayer benefits for every $1 they spend here.

So importing millions more poor illegal aliens won't expand the economy nearly as much as it will expand . . . . . the size and power of government.

====

indeed, you need a super central state to squeeze in the diversity with the normals.

1. look at the jumpy subpar IQ somalis in Minnesota.

1a. you need a multi-million dollar diversity effort to even find one to be a cop at the lowest standards, and he goes and shoots a yoga teacher within his first year.

1b. oh, please don't mind the $100million day care scam and

1c. THE GOVERNMENT LOOKING THE OTHER WAY AS THEY USED IT TO FUND SOMALI TERRORISTS

because what is government if it isn't to help foreigners rip off the nation?

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at January 02, 2019 02:04 PM (7J5t2)

245 198 mighty mitt is nothing more than a frustrated 71 has been

When was he ever a 'was?' Seriously, his one success was becoming governor of Massachussetts. Which puts him on a level with Michael Dukakis.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 02, 2019 02:04 PM (gyL25)

246 232
Holy crap, it really is Romney Day here.

Do we get decorative napkins and plates with his picture on them?

Better yet, toilet paper.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at January 02, 2019 02:02 PM (cfSRQ)
Bring your dog and he gets to go for a car ride.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 02, 2019 02:05 PM (jxbfJ)

247 Identity politics will find you whether you want it to or not. Choose a tribe, choose wisely. Sink the Ships.

Posted by: Daniel Quilp at January 02, 2019 02:05 PM (Bf3hj)

248 look, no one would've been worse than Barry 2012-2016, not even occasional cortex.
-the rise of ISIS, the slaughter of thousands.
-more immigrants, DACA which is now unstoppable
-nuclear iran
-judges the GOP was too cowardly to stop
-the deficit
-bad economics that strangled many peoples' lives and led to a lost generation of baristas.
Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at January 02, 2019 02:02 PM (7J5t2)

THIS. As disgusting as the GOPee are, and I won't give them a red cent, I will vote for one over the Commiecrat. Heck, with the new CA voting system, I have to vote for the less poisonous Commiecrat over the more poisonous one.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 02, 2019 02:05 PM (ujg0T)

249 okay...what is willowed?
Posted by: PJ at January 02, 2019 02:01 PM (qlTN9)

Got a job with Buffy the Vampire Slayer?

Actually it means that you were left with a comment in the previous thread when a new thread had started, named after a nice poster who regularly did that and whose previous handle was "willow:..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2019 02:05 PM (AllCR)

250 Since no one mentioned it in the Ford thread. "Feel Like a Woman," future Boy Scouts of America merit badge?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 02, 2019 02:05 PM (Sk/5h)

251 They tried two cuckservatives in a row.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 02, 2019 02:05 PM (Ba8GW)

252 6 A Chinese General has stated publicly that they need to sink 2 USN carriers.

Posted by: backbeat baby at January 02, 2019 01:58 PM (w7KSn)

How do they intend to stop at 2? Either you get all of them or you don't start at all. Aiming for 2 is planning to fail.

Posted by: Someguy at January 02, 2019 02:00 PM (h5Df3)

will regular ordnances sink a Chinese carrier or do they have to be made out of cheap poorly made crap that people would rather throw out than give to Goodwill?

Posted by: Quint at January 02, 2019 02:05 PM (n13/j)

253 what I don't get about Mitch is he was, in 2012, the most conservative and border-realist GOP candidate available.

I told them to just build the danged wall already!
Posted by: Pres. John zombie McCai

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We always knew mccain was full of shit. even in 2008 which is why we freaked out abotu his nomination, thanks Florida!

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at January 02, 2019 02:06 PM (7J5t2)

254 Since no one mentioned it in the Ford thread. "Feel Like a Woman," future Boy Scouts of America merit badge?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 02, 2019 02:05 PM

Anderson Cooper, is that you?

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 02, 2019 02:06 PM (nAeGR)

255 >>>I don't have to pick up my damn Bible. It's an inappropriate use of a word totally out of context with what happened in olden days
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2019 01:59 PM (Y+V3r)
__________
They were wiped out. Completely.

Genocide is intentional action to destroy a people in whole or in part.

When later King Saul disobeyed and spared even some Amalekite livestock God rejected him for it.

That doesn't make it evil, as it was ordered by God who is without sin.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at January 02, 2019 02:06 PM (oI6j8)

256 Here is an effective solution to the Immigration Debate:

(1) For time being, accept "Open Borders" married with community organized importation of immigrants that will vote in mass for one of the political parties.

(2) Counter the Progressive's South-of-the-Border voter importation plan by sending weekly cruise ships to a targeted foreign jurisdiction whose immigrants will vote GOP by large percentages. Bring these voters back to America and follow the Progressive playbook. Let them off the ship, but give them GOP voter registration forms as they disembark, etc. Settle these immigrants in Florida, Texas, Virginia, Colorado, Ohio, Nevada, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan and New Hampshire (in this order, as needed to effect elections).

(3) Strategy #2 needs to be implemented with enough speed to counter the effect of the Progressive's similar strategy for South-of-the-Border, now in effect for at least 20-years (how many? 40M immigrants? More?)

So.....foreign candidates? Poland? Bulgaria? South Africa? Australia? Russia? I like eastern bloc countries because in the current Meh Mueller environment, Trump's importation of 40M Russian satellite citizens would literally drive the Progressives INSANE.

Posted by: RichardWindsor at January 02, 2019 02:06 PM (db5dt)

257 Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 02, 2019 02:00 PM (fqUgw)

Put in a Keynesian economic argument, if labor is kept artificially cheap, companies will be able to be more profitable, which will boost the GDP.

Which leaves out 2 huge parts of the equation:
1) lots of american citizens get fucked in that system where labor is kept artificially cheap
2) taxes and welfare can't be ignored here. The bottom 40% of income earners pay little / no tax, and receive a net benefit from the government. Nearly all of the illegal immigrants fall, and likely will continue to fall, in this category of bottom 40% of income earners.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 02, 2019 02:06 PM (GBteo)

258 Dave Reaboi

Didn't Pinocchio want to be a Reaboi?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 02, 2019 02:06 PM (gyL25)

259 okay...what is willowed?
Posted by: PJ at January 02, 2019 02:01 PM (qlTN9)

The commenter willow (ignore her goth teen angst phase of using bah) has the amazing skill of commenting on a thread and thus causing a Nood to rise from the ocean, like Venus on a shell.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at January 02, 2019 02:06 PM (mf5HN)

260 I've joked before that Merkel thinks that mo'hammed and abdul will work for hans and franz's retirements, but I'm kinda serious. Many
western "leaders" think this.

What I think funny is that they think those immigrants, that can't speak the language, will get jobs and work to pay taxes.

How? If they can't speak the language, how can they get a job? Especially one that pays enough to support the welfare state.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 02, 2019 02:07 PM (2GjZZ)

261 I have had someone tell me, earnestly, and with all appearances of believing what he was saying and thinking it was a good idea, that illegals will save Social Security because they are having FICA withheld from their paychecks via fraudulent SSNs and the use of TINs but they will never collect so it is a net positive that will make SS solvent!

Me: Wait, so you're saying that mass scale identify theft is going to save SS?

Him: No, no, no, using an incorrect SSN to have money withheld via FICA isn't identity theft!

That was when I nodded politely and exited the conversation because holy crap how do you even reply to that other than with you cannot possibly be that stupid.

Yes, yes, he was an economics professor, how did you guess?
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at January 02, 2019 02:03 PM (mf5HN)

And once they get their "path to citizenship" they will collect it. And vote Commiecrat.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 02, 2019 02:07 PM (ujg0T)

262 So importing millions more poor illegal aliens won't expand the economy nearly as much as it will expand . . . . . the size and power of government.

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2. Sure, it won't affect voting patterns which is why Houston Texas has a hard left lesbian mayor.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at January 02, 2019 02:07 PM (7J5t2)

263 Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at January 02, 2019 02:03 PM (mf5HN)

Are you doing another Drift Compatible podcast?

Or as I like to refer to them, A Very Special Evening With AlextheChick* or The AlextheChick Power Hour.

*rated NC-17 for language. Don't bring your children because of the profanity and also Alex hates children.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 02, 2019 02:07 PM (4ErVI)

264 Patience, people!!

There is still much industry across the United States that can profitably be shut down and reopened in China!

And we really don't know how low we can push wages until hundreds of millions of people from Africa, Latin America and Asia are added to the American work force!

Don't judge globalism until we've had a chance to fully implement it! Then you'll see the benefits!

Posted by: Mitt Romney at January 02, 2019 02:07 PM (DuAZ5)

265 OT:

Works from 1923 are now in the public domain!

We're seeing advances in things entering the public domain for the first time in twenty years!

I honestly didn't think it would happen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, If you've read and enjoyed any of my works, please leave a review on Amazon. at January 02, 2019 02:07 PM (q8oeS)

266 okay...what is willowed?
Posted by: PJ at January 02, 2019 02:01 PM

Errr, nothing, really. Just keep commenting, pay no attention to the nood when it comes.

Posted by: Hands at January 02, 2019 02:07 PM (786Ro)

267 Willard is the correct phrase.

No being Willard is when you are eaten by hordes of rats that you once had befriended.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 02:07 PM (39g3+)

268 I don't think open borders is behind Romney's op-Ed. One of the main reasons I supported him in the past was his illegal immigration positions . He actually had a decent record as governor in that regard and in both runs talked the talk. So much so that Trump described Romney's policies as maniacal and crazy. Romney also says he is for the Wall.

Romney's criticism of Trump is just because he's a douchebag like the rest of the NeverTrumpers.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at January 02, 2019 02:07 PM (wyeK6)

269 Fauxcohontas launched her campaign with fire water in hand.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 02, 2019 02:07 PM (Ba8GW)

270 254
6 A Chinese General has stated publicly that they need to sink 2 USN carriers.

Posted by: backbeat baby at January 02, 2019 01:58 PM (w7KSn)

How do they intend to stop at 2? Either you get all of them or you don't start at all. Aiming for 2 is planning to fail.

Posted by: Someguy at January 02, 2019 02:00 PM (h5Df3)
They sink two of our carriers, how do they plan on stopping the massive air ordnance inbound on their position?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 02, 2019 02:07 PM (jxbfJ)

271 oh, it gets even better.Farmers have been screaming for more labor since the 50s. And look what they did in the San Joaquin Valley. They brought all their labor in, then shut down farming by cutting off water. Now those people, which VDH describes, stay in the US for the welfare. And California has poverty levels of Mississippi.

Posted by: notsothoreau at January 02, 2019 02:07 PM (JKNZq)

272 Adding to the other scriptures listed, since the subject is Romney, there are a ton of examples in the Book of Mormon of walls and fortifications built to protect the people. Alma chapters 49 and 50 are perfect examples.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ydhexmyu

5 Now at this time the chief captains of the Lamanites were astonished exceedingly, because of the wisdom of the Nephites in preparing their places of security.

6 Now the leaders of the Lamanites had supposed, because of the greatness of their numbers, yea, they supposed that they should be privileged to come upon them as they had hitherto done....

7 And being thus prepared they supposed that they should easily overpower and subject their brethren to the yoke of bondage, or slay and massacre them according to their pleasure.

8 But behold, to their uttermost astonishment, they were prepared for them, in a manner which never had been known among the children of Lehi.

Posted by: LizLem at January 02, 2019 02:08 PM (Myxyb)

273 OK, now we're back to normal.

CNN's Don Lemon On Michelle Obama: We Miss that Class, You Can't Buy It With Money

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Little sasquatchy there, Don. Of course, Don is right. Mooch has got money but she sure ain't got no class.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 02, 2019 02:08 PM (+y/Ru)

274 Teddy Rosevelt said speak softly but carry a big stick....Romney speaks softly and let's the Democrats beat us with a stick

Posted by: SMOD at January 02, 2019 02:08 PM (QkjLD)

275 Merkel thinks that mo'hammed and abdul will work for hans and franz's retirements, but I'm kinda serious. Many
western "leaders" think this.

===

if islamists were mostly white instead of a racist hue (who themselves are quite racist against the darker and darkest hues)...then most liberals would nuke mecca.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at January 02, 2019 02:08 PM (7J5t2)

276 How? If they can't speak the language, how can they get a job? "

Easy. We'll mandate that all documents are in every language.

(seriously)

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 02, 2019 02:08 PM (6qErC)

277 227 It's two objects touching! Didn't I say something about that yesterday?
Posted by: rickl at January 02, 2019 02:02 PM (xjiRE)

Wait--two objects tidally locked? Not one dumbbell-shaped object?

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at January 02, 2019 02:08 PM (RD7QR)

278 I have had someone tell me, earnestly, and with all appearances of believing what he was saying and thinking it was a good idea, that illegals will save Social Security because they are having FICA withheld from their paychecks via fraudulent SSNs and the use of TINs but they will never collect so it is a net positive that will make SS solvent!

Me: Wait, so you're saying that mass scale identify theft is going to save SS?

Him: No, no, no, using an incorrect SSN to have money withheld via FICA isn't identity theft!

That was when I nodded politely and exited the conversation because holy crap how do you even reply to that other than with you cannot possibly be that stupid.

Yes, yes, he was an economics professor, how did you guess?
Likely outcome-It will become an " issue " when they are over 55 and getting ready to collect. All will cry that they did not understand. The politicians will enact strong legislation to ensure it never happens again. And pay them.

Posted by: Mac at January 02, 2019 02:08 PM (fOoQ8)

279 That was when I nodded politely and exited the conversation because holy crap how do you even reply to that other than with you cannot possibly be that stupid.

Yes, yes, he was an economics professor, how did you guess?
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at January 02, 2019 02:03 PM (mf5HN)

Probably should have yelled "Bullshit!" at him, then left. Politeness is overrated and not effective at countering lies.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at January 02, 2019 02:08 PM (J+mig)

280 When does the EBT train shut down in the government shutdown? THAT will be the moment we actually get some action that will change things.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 02, 2019 02:08 PM (nEylt)

281 I wish I could find the comment where I pointed this out like six months ago.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 02, 2019 02:08 PM (O7MnT)

282 Chinese General has stated publicly that they need to sink 2 USN carriers.

Posted by: backbeat baby at January 02, 2019 01:58 PM (w7KSn)

How do they intend to stop at 2? Either you get all of them or you don't start at all. Aiming for 2 is planning to fail.
==========
Accidentally ram them with cargo ships. Naturally.

Posted by: Ancient Chinese Secret at January 02, 2019 02:09 PM (7zxWv)

283 Posted by: Someguy at January 02, 2019 02:00 PM (h5Df3)
They sink two of our carriers, how do they plan on stopping the massive air ordnance inbound on their position?

===

the fucking chinese couldn't survive a week of tariff wars before being broken by trump.

what do they think will happen when Walmart et al stops carrying their shit?

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at January 02, 2019 02:09 PM (7J5t2)

284 "It's not that these people are stupid or evil"

Really? REALLY?

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at January 02, 2019 02:09 PM (hjaPQ)

285 Bring in the Boers.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 02, 2019 02:09 PM (Ba8GW)

286 The commenter willow (ignore her goth teen angst phase of using bah)

But she's so cute in that black lipstick

They were wiped out. Completely.

No, they actually were not. The Hebrews weren't very good at following God's commands. They conquered a small section of what God gave them, then took slaves and married the local women instead of killing them all as ordered.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 02:09 PM (39g3+)

287 Chinese General has stated publicly that they need to sink 2 USN carriers.

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to be fair, all he has to do is wait a few weeks for the diversity officer corps does it for them.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at January 02, 2019 02:09 PM (7J5t2)

288 229 Elizabeth Warren has launched her trail of ~~tears~~ beers tour.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 02, 2019 02:09 PM (H7LIz)

289
Works from 1923 are now in the public domain!

We're seeing advances in things entering the public domain for the first time in twenty years!

Ha. Hold my beer.

Posted by: Disney at January 02, 2019 02:10 PM (gyL25)

290 That was when I nodded politely and exited the conversation because holy crap how do you even reply to that other than with you cannot possibly be that stupid.

Yes, yes, he was an economics professor, how did you guess?
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at January 02, 2019 02:03 PM (mf5HN)

Okay, even if we accept that argument -- that only works if the people involved are illegal immigrants using stolen SSN's.

As soon as they get their own SSN's, then the problem gets way worse then it was previously. Right?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 02, 2019 02:10 PM (GBteo)

291 "Has Romney replaced McCain or the Flake?"

From this point forward, Mitt Romney shall also be known as Flakes McCain.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at January 02, 2019 02:10 PM (6eEQ+)

292 I think Fauchahontas will set a record for the shortest presidential campaign ever.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 02, 2019 02:10 PM (nEylt)

293 A Chinese General has stated publicly that they need to sink 2 USN carriers.
Posted by: backbeat baby at January 02, 2019 01:58 PM

How do they intend to stop at 2? Either you get all of them or you don't start at all. Aiming for 2 is planning to fail.

Posted by: Someguy at January 02, 2019 02:00 PM

With 2 you get eggroll!

Posted by: Hands at January 02, 2019 02:10 PM (786Ro)

294 I can't agree with Reboi that these people aren't evil. I'd have to consider myself, my family, all I love and have worked for to be expendable to "ideas" to not believe them evil.

Posted by: Daniel Quilp at January 02, 2019 02:10 PM (Bf3hj)

295 Are you doing another Drift Compatible podcast?

Or as I like to refer to them, A Very Special Evening With AlextheChick* or The AlextheChick Power Hour.

*rated NC-17 for language. Don't bring your children because of the profanity and also Alex hates children.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 02, 2019 02:07 PM (4ErVI)

Heh. We will be, probably next week. BC has had All Of His Family at his house so yelling profanities for a few hours (at least that they can hear) was deemed inadvisable.

*trudges back to work*

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at January 02, 2019 02:10 PM (mf5HN)

296 253 They tried two cuckservatives in a row.
Posted by: Boss Moss
___________

And then three more.

Posted by: George H.W. Bush and Bob Dole at January 02, 2019 02:10 PM (9vQJW)

297 272 254
6 A Chinese General has stated publicly that they need to sink 2 USN carriers.

Posted by: backbeat baby at January 02, 2019 01:58 PM (w7KSn)

How do they intend to stop at 2? Either you get all of them or you don't start at all. Aiming for 2 is planning to fail.

Posted by: Someguy at January 02, 2019 02:00 PM (h5Df3)
They sink two of our carriers, how do they plan on stopping the massive air ordnance inbound on their position?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 02, 2019 02:07 PM (jxbfJ)

Maybe the assumption is that we'll be unwilling to accept those losses and won't fight any longer?

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at January 02, 2019 02:11 PM (RD7QR)

298 and let's not forget:

3. H1B's because americans are too stupid to do jobs good.

but

4. lets let american kids borrow $150,000 to go to college so they can train the H1B;'s

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at January 02, 2019 02:11 PM (7J5t2)

299 276 Teddy Rosevelt said speak softly but carry a big stick....Romney speaks softly and let's the Democrats beat us with a stick
______________________________________

I'll show you what to do with that stick.

Posted by: Tom Ford at January 02, 2019 02:11 PM (H7LIz)

300 229 Elizabeth Warren has launched her trail of tears tour.
_________________

Yes, and I've been posting a special tribute song I wrote just for her:

Lizzy Warren took an axe,
Gave her presidential hopes 40 whacks;

When he saw what she had done,
Trump was thrilled she's gonna run!

___________

Now that Lizzy has proved she's an authentic American working class member (by swilling beer from a bottle), she has officially cemented her 1/1,024 chance of winning the presidency in 2020!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 02, 2019 02:11 PM (fqUgw)

301 "It's not that these people are stupid or evil"

stupid AND evil

embrace the power of AND

Posted by: McCool at January 02, 2019 02:11 PM (WXSv6)

302 Wait--two objects tidally locked? Not one dumbbell-shaped object?

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at January 02, 2019 02:08 PM (RD7QR)

Maxine Waters is a Kuiper Belt object?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 02, 2019 02:11 PM (nPGq2)

303 Him: No, no, no, using an incorrect SSN to have money withheld via FICA isn't identity theft!

Well I think I know what he means. It might just be just plain fraud, by using social security numbers of deceased people instead of identity fraud by using those of living.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 02:11 PM (39g3+)

304 >>Me: Wait, so you're saying that mass scale identify theft is going to save SS?

Is it fair to guess that this guy would also support the feds taking over our 401ks when SS runs out of money?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 02, 2019 02:11 PM (W+vEI)

305

Posted by: McCool at January 02, 2019 02:11 PM (WXSv6)

306 missed it by 'that' much

Posted by: McCool at January 02, 2019 02:11 PM (WXSv6)

307 As soon as they get their own SSN's, then the problem gets way worse then it was previously. Right?"

uhhhh.....

You're rayciss!!!!

*snort*

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 02, 2019 02:12 PM (6qErC)

308 General Chicken?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 02, 2019 02:12 PM (Ba8GW)

309 >>274 Adding to the other scriptures listed,

And Crom said, they seek to take what belongs to you. So you will build a fortress, and a fortress within a fortress, and when they come to attack they will be as a wave against stone.

And will be defeated, and you will walk among their wounded and cut their throats and watch the wine in their bodies seep into the sand and the children will cavort and wear the helmets of the dead and because the helmets are too large, they will stumble around and the women will sigh and your warriors will laugh and then all will get drunk in the Great Hall, even the children, who will not resent their parents and call them prudes.

Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 02:12 PM (Bdeb0)

310 Genocide is intentional action to destroy a people in whole or in part.

When later King Saul disobeyed and spared even some Amalekite livestock God rejected him for it.

That doesn't make it evil, as it was ordered by God who is without sin.
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at January 02, 2019 02:06 PM (oI6j

Genocide is a 20th century word, referring to events and actions in the 20th century. Wiping out your enemy ( at least the men folk) was a common occurence in biblical time totally unrelated to 20th century "genocide" which is an word often misused when referring to todays' events also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2019 02:12 PM (Y+V3r)

311 Posted by: McCool at January 02, 2019 02:11 PM (WXSv6)

You have been paroled from the barrel for good behavior.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at January 02, 2019 02:12 PM (wyeK6)

312 Men should be made to pee and poop in their own yard to learn what it is like to be my dogs ... when I'm not anally penetrating them.

Posted by: Tom Ford at January 02, 2019 02:12 PM (vDqXW)

313 When does the EBT train shut down in the government shutdown? THAT will be the moment we actually get some action that will change things.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 02, 2019 02:08 PM (nEylt)

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Unfortunately, it does not get shut down. Those programs are separately and fully funded.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 02, 2019 02:12 PM (ffYR/)

314 good idea, that illegals will save Social Security because they are having FICA withheld from their paychecks via fraudulent SSNs and the use of TINs but they will never collect so it is a net positive that will make SS solvent!

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Sounds like a plan to me. That and the IRS getting masks and using their guns to rob banks.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 02, 2019 02:12 PM (+y/Ru)

315 Maybe the assumption is that we'll be unwilling to accept those losses and won't fight any longer?

If they do it with the right president if office, it might work. You think Obama really would go to war with China over a few dead sailors?

From this point forward, Mitt Romney shall also be known as Flakes McCain.

Seconded. Flakes McCain it is.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 02:13 PM (39g3+)

316 McCool to the Barrel, please.

Okay, even if we accept that argument -- that only works if the people involved are illegal immigrants using stolen SSN's.

As soon as they get their own SSN's, then the problem gets way worse then it was previously. Right?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 02, 2019 02:10 PM (GBteo)

Yes. Yes, it does.

There was an ad at Insty today with an online poll of Should illegal aliens receive Social Security and everyone who is noting that thiat's going to be the next Totes Compassionate thing is right.

*really leaves now*

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at January 02, 2019 02:13 PM (mf5HN)

317 291
Works from 1923 are now in the public domain!

We're seeing advances in things entering the public domain for the first time in twenty years!

Ha. Hold my beer.
Posted by: Disney at January 02, 2019 02:10 PM (gyL25)

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There are a few more years until Steamboat Willie enters the public domain, but Instapundit posted an article that sounds like the base fight over copyright is done. It won't extend again. Disney's not interested. They'll fight it differently (you won't be able to do white gloves and red pants on Mickey for a few years), but the fight for the base copyright is done.

It won't go to Life+90 or even perpetuity.

Now, I pray that the fight extends further and we start rolling it back. First stop, down from Life+70 to Life+50.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, If you've read and enjoyed any of my works, please leave a review on Amazon. at January 02, 2019 02:14 PM (q8oeS)

318
One theory of the end game these deranged eliitists envision, is ultimately replacing almost all of the population with automaion, AI, and robots, so that a small privileged remnant (the elite and their descendants) can live a life of ease in a depopulated world. The flood of Third World opportunists flooding in are temporary cannon fodder to neutralize us, and will be erased along with us when the time comes.

Look at the privileges extended to this invading retard army. Look at the price to be paid for simply speaking the truth about it. Doxxed and unemployed here, jailed in Europe.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 02, 2019 02:14 PM (qj9tb)

319 Genocide is a 20th century word, referring to events and actions in the 20th century. Wiping out your enemy ( at least the men folk) was a common occurence in biblical time totally unrelated to 20th century "genocide" which is an word often misused when referring to todays' events also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2019 02:12 PM (Y+V3r)
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And if you didn't wipe out the previous owners of the property you were taking over, they usually were made slaves.

Posted by: Axeman at January 02, 2019 02:14 PM (vDqXW)

320 Shit.

I just received an "invitation" to attend an alumni event.

"Dive into what it means to be a volunteer and how to leverage your role as an empowered leader."[Emphasis in original]

Huh?

"Network with like-minded alumni who can help accelerate your causes."

Getting the wall built? Re-electing Trump? Deporting the wetbacks? Getting out of California? Because those are my causes.

"Together, our collective good is infinitely greater and so much more astounding."

I have no idea what this means.

"It takes just one person to fuel a movement - one idea to make a wave."

I'd like to think that they're referring to Trump here, but the "make a wave" business is probably a reference to Lena Dunham slipping in the bathtub.

Srsly, who the hell writes this kind of drivel?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 02, 2019 02:14 PM (Ofz3/)

321 3. H1B's because americans are too stupid to do jobs good.

but

4. lets let american kids borrow $150,000 to go to college so they can train the H1B;'s
Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at January 02, 2019 02:11 PM (7J5t2)

"We need more kids in STEM!"

"Actually, nevermind. Turns out we can hire Indians at $60,000 a year who got a degree in India almost nothing and have no debt to live in dorms in Silicon Valley for a few years before rotating them out and a new batch in. Carry on."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 02, 2019 02:14 PM (GBteo)

322 we subsidize the illegals so coastal "elites" can have cheap maids (with whom Hillary shares confidential). But they use more social services than most ... free health care means people use it more ... (Australia found even a $5 copay slowed down overuse).

Then the money the illegals make (many do work pretty hard, but also drink and drive a lot) ... the extra money gets sent back to family in Honduras to subsidize the narco states. And since illegals are counted in the census, their negihborhoods overall get about 20 rep in the house ... as evidenced by Rep Gutierrez in Chicago always claiming rights for Mexicans.

They are giving our country away ... or actually, selling it.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 02, 2019 02:14 PM (Cus5s)

323 *tucks chocolate in AtCs bag to sustain her at work before she goes*

Posted by: LizLem at January 02, 2019 02:14 PM (Myxyb)

324 it's a Nietschean idea, that things don't really change, that all of history is an "Eternal Recurrence of the Same"
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The Bible also tells us there is "nothing new under the sun".

Posted by: ... at January 02, 2019 02:15 PM (uEbPt)

325 304 Wait--two objects tidally locked? Not one dumbbell-shaped object?

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at January 02, 2019 02:08 PM (RD7QR)

Maxine Waters is a Kuiper Belt object?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 02, 2019 02:11 PM (nPGq2)

Well, she's got the volatile gasses thing down pat...

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at January 02, 2019 02:15 PM (RD7QR)

326 Looks like Romney has wrapped up the Jeb Bush wing of the party for his 2020 presidential run.

Posted by: Cardin Drake at January 02, 2019 02:15 PM (GUOZV)

327 Now, I pray that the fight extends further and we start rolling it back. First stop, down from Life+70 to Life+50.

Life + 50 is long but I guess I could live with that. Gives your children a shot at the earnings and even grandkids.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 02:15 PM (39g3+)

328 What am I missing? How does anyone think that we can exist as a country without controlling our borders? There is a point where an incoming group of people will tip the scales away from the national culture and toward the invader--just ask the native Americans. If we want these people in the country, frigging write a law. Change the immigration policy. Any politician who does not execute or follow the law should be impeached immediately. When California's bill comes do, you know they will expect Nancy and Chuck to bail them out.

Posted by: IanDeal at January 02, 2019 02:15 PM (4zQrR)

329 There was an ad at Insty today with an online poll of Should illegal aliens receive Social Security and everyone who is noting that thiat's going to be the next Totes Compassionate thing is right.

*really leaves now*
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at January 02, 2019 02:13 PM (mf5HN)
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Socialism by crisis is the only really compassionate thing to do.

Posted by: Cloward and Piven at January 02, 2019 02:15 PM (vDqXW)

330 >> It's the Jews.

First Stormfrontin' of the New Year!

Posted by: garrett at January 02, 2019 02:15 PM (OaqE8)

331 They are being let in by the Democrats because the blacks are finally seeing the light and leaving their plantation. The Democrat Party is assuring they have a future voter base,
Posted by: Vic at January 02, 2019 01:48 PM (mpXpK)

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You are delusional if you think they are leaving the plantation.

Yeah, Trump can peel off a small percentage to help him win but we are talking a tiny percentage.

What you don't understand is how much blacks depend on government. Until you understand that you will keep believing in the tooth fairy.

It's that same stupid myth that Mexicans are natural conservatives. Bunk. It's all about the bucks and making bank.

You think they want affirmative action programs over turned? Think again. Look at almost any government employment and you will see a huge amount of minority workers. Etc.

Posted by: Idiocracy at January 02, 2019 02:16 PM (tAK9/)

332 322
Srsly, who the hell writes this kind of drivel?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 02, 2019 02:14 PM (Ofz3/)

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That's unreadable garbage.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, If you've read and enjoyed any of my works, please leave a review on Amazon. at January 02, 2019 02:16 PM (q8oeS)

333 227 It's two objects touching! Didn't I say something about that yesterday?

Posted by: rickl at January 02, 2019 02:02 PM (xjiRE)

Is that gay?

Posted by: blaster at January 02, 2019 02:16 PM (9VeU0)

334 >>>will regular ordnances sink a Chinese carrier or do they have to be made
out of cheap poorly made crap that people would rather throw out than
give to Goodwill?<<<

Judging by the quality of imported Chinese steel, you could ram the bow of a Chinese carrier with a cigar boat the fucking thing would sink on its own.

Posted by: Fritz at January 02, 2019 02:16 PM (2Mnv1)

335 Troll above

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2019 02:16 PM (Y+V3r)

336 It's the Jews. Open Borders are very important to Jews.

They need illegals to run the weather machines and for blood in their passover rituals, right? Right?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 02:16 PM (39g3+)

337 You know I'm right.

Posted by: ItstheJews at January 02, 2019 02:14 PM (qufem)
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Sure it is asshole. Now why don't you go fuck yourself back to your little Nazi corner with a swastika made of razor blades and shame.

Posted by: ... at January 02, 2019 02:16 PM (uEbPt)

338 Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 02:12 PM (Bdeb0)

Who the heck is Crom?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2019 02:16 PM (AllCR)

339 You know I'm right.
Posted by: ItstheJews at January 02, 2019 02:14 PM (qufem

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Yup. You're on to me. I advocate closing the border and grinding open-borders Republicans into dust as a shifty Jewish feint so you don't know our real intentions.

Posted by: Welcome to Jaime-town at January 02, 2019 02:16 PM (AzW6q)

340 There was an ad at Insty today with an online poll of Should illegal aliens receive Social Security and everyone who is noting that thiat's going to be the next Totes Compassionate thing is right.

*really leaves now*
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at January 02, 2019 02:13 PM (mf5HN)

Yeah. 100% chance that todays illegals will be collecting from social security at some point in the near future.

The DREAMers all got social security numbers from Obama by fiat. They're presumably eligible to collect when they retire or catch the disability.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 02, 2019 02:16 PM (GBteo)

341 "what I don't get about Mitch is he was, in 2012, the most conservative and border-realist GOP candidate available. "

6 years is a long time. Heck, not all that long ago even the Pelosi/Schumer/Hilary Democrats pretended to be at least nominally in favor of some form of border control. Now, even discussing the idea of first controlling the border, then talking about DACA and amnesty issues, would be considered akin to flat out Jim Crow racism.

The goalposts have been moved. The left is good at that.

Posted by: RM at January 02, 2019 02:16 PM (U3LtS)

342 I just received an "invitation" to attend an alumni event.

The university I graduated from has 82 full-time diversity enforcers at a cost of $10.8M per year; which would cover in-state tuition for 700 students.

When they ask for money, I tell them to piss off.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 02, 2019 02:16 PM (O7MnT)

343 I have always been for E-Verify. So are politicians lying when they say they are for this? They keep almost implementing it, and then they don't.

In my experience, nearly every farmer in the Midwest is a Republican. Nearly every agricultural worker is an immigrant from Mexico. I understand it's this and more in California. (Except more hippy farmers there, I imagine.)

So what, then? I feel like a lot of people like to talk big about immigration, but then agree to do nothing. And the wall isn't convincing me. Without E-Verify, it's nothing but symbolic.

Posted by: Dr Spaceman at January 02, 2019 02:17 PM (TeOcQ)

344 You know I'm right.
Posted by: ItstheJews at January 02, 2019 02:14 PM (qufem)

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It's Moby Dick!

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 02, 2019 02:17 PM (qj9tb)

345 Bush I gave us 8 years of Clenis
Bush II gave us 8 years of Obama and the wonders of Compassionate Conservatism aka Stratified Socialism

Seeing a pattern here...

Posted by: mikeyG at January 02, 2019 02:17 PM (LL1Be)

346 329 Looks like Romney has wrapped up the Jeb Bush wing of the party for his 2020 presidential run.
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He'll probably get ever fewer delegates than Jeb! did.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 02, 2019 02:17 PM (fqUgw)

347 No border means no republic

And the only thing keeping a lot of these commies and violent freaks relatively safe is the number of decent people playacting that the republic is still fine and dandy like some massive-scale parody of Weekend at Bernies.

We're steadily inching towards a Spanish civil war style conflict between corrupt urban cops/angry college adjuncts/antifa weirdos, and the sorts of people who have been busy doing things like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0Qmw2pGNls

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at January 02, 2019 02:17 PM (67XdO)

348 330 Now, I pray that the fight extends further and we start rolling it back. First stop, down from Life+70 to Life+50.

Life + 50 is long but I guess I could live with that. Gives your children a shot at the earnings and even grandkids.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 02:15 PM (39g3+)

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Most works stop generating income within a year. Almost nothing past 10 years.

The few things that do keep generating income past that become cash cows to larger interests.

I have no interest in protecting Ayn Rand's estate's hold on Atlas Shrugged. She's been dead for more than 30 years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, If you've read and enjoyed any of my works, please leave a review on Amazon. at January 02, 2019 02:17 PM (q8oeS)

349
Yeah. 100% chance that todays illegals will be collecting from social security at some point in the near future.

There's also a 100% chance that social security goes tits up within one generation.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 02, 2019 02:18 PM (O7MnT)

350 What am I missing? How does anyone think that we can exist as a country without controlling our borders?

Not indefinitely, but long enough for the people who in the short term benefit from the destruction to die before it all goes wrong. And that's all they care about.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 02:18 PM (39g3+)

351 The university I graduated from has 82 full-time diversity enforcers at a cost of $10.8M per year; which would cover in-state tuition for 700 students.

When they ask for money, I tell them to piss off.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 02, 2019 02:16 PM (O7MnT)
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82???? How big is this school? Even if we assume diversity enforcement is a good idea, what should the ratio be? I mean, I suspect one person could diversity-enforce (e.g., write tickets and audit attendance) for a population of at least 1,000 people...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 02, 2019 02:18 PM (I2dne)

352 look, no one would've been worse than Barry 2012-2016, not even occasional cortex.
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Totally disagree with this. Barry-O was undoubtedly the iceberg that struct the US-Titantic across the board. But this woke up the Country (of that time) to the dangers of modern progressivism, and that's a good thing. (*only caveat is that Obama put the South-of-the-Border Progressive voter importation strategy on steroids for 8-years, and cemented the community organizing component of this strategy to great effect, continuing to this day.... underlining the 4-star emergency of the Open Border issue).

Had Mitt Romney been elected in 2012, he would have permanently moved the GOP to the left (settling on slightly right of Pelosi/Schumer), including, most importantly, the Left's Open Border Voter Importation strategy. Would not have progressed as far/fast as Obama efforts, but if Romney had been the architect of a less-successful effort, it would have destroyed organized GOP opposition because Romney would have signed "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" thus cementing the Progressive's strategy and we could not reasonably expect any further action to prevent the South America Socialist take-over of the US, to be complete in the next 15 years or so.

With Obama's defeat of Romney, this issue stayed alive, it was the #1 issue that got Trump elected, and we're still in the fight, even it still losing it.

Posted by: RichardWindsor at January 02, 2019 02:18 PM (db5dt)

353 The nomenklatura in this country pay as much heed to the will of the people as expressed through elections as they did in the CCCP.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 02, 2019 02:18 PM (EZebt)

354 >>Who the heck is Crom?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2019 02:16 PM (AllCR)

Silence, cleric!

Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 02:18 PM (Bdeb0)

355 It's the Jews. Open Borders are very important to Jews.

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Well, they did tumble down the walls at Jericho.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 02, 2019 02:18 PM (+y/Ru)

356 I'm tired of poor people that pay no income taxes. We have enough of them already at almost 50% of our population. Immigrant doctors and engineers are welcome. Fruit pickers, fry cooks, and landscapers can stay in their own countries.

Posted by: Ironwood at January 02, 2019 02:18 PM (3T/nT)

357 >will regular ordnances sink a Chinese carrier or do they have to be made

out of cheap poorly made crap that people would rather throw out than

give to Goodwill?<<<

Judging by the quality of
imported Chinese steel, you could ram the bow of a Chinese carrier with a
cigar boat the fucking thing would sink on its own.

Posted by: Fritz at January 02, 2019 02:16 PM (2Mnv1)

heh.

Posted by: Quint at January 02, 2019 02:18 PM (n13/j)

358 Conan's god was Crom.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 02, 2019 02:18 PM (Ba8GW)

359 341 Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 02:12 PM (Bdeb0)

Who the heck is Crom?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2019 02:16 PM (AllCR)

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To hell with him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, If you've read and enjoyed any of my works, please leave a review on Amazon. at January 02, 2019 02:18 PM (q8oeS)

360 Him: No, no, no, using an incorrect SSN to have money withheld via FICA isn't identity theft!

so if 10 illegals are using my SSN
and they push my income into another tax bracket (unbeknownst to me)

wont I be screwed ?
just as if they bought sh*t with my credit card ?

Posted by: McCool at January 02, 2019 02:18 PM (WXSv6)

361 That's unreadable garbage.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, If you've read and enjoyed any of my works, please leave a review on Amazon. at January 02, 2019 02:16 PM (q8oeS)

Yep. It's the kind of gushing pablum written by teen-aged girls who dot their "i's" with hearts.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 02, 2019 02:19 PM (Ofz3/)

362 >>353 What am I missing? How does anyone think that we can exist as a country without controlling our borders?

If you would like to know how anyone thinks that we can exist as a country without controlling our borders, oprima dos.

Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 02:19 PM (Bdeb0)

363 Genocide is a 20th century word, referring to events and actions in the 20th century.

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That wasn't homosex; it was sodomy!

Posted by: Undocumented at January 02, 2019 02:19 PM (iQKgg)

364 Who the heck is Crom?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2019 02:16 PM (AllCR)

Crom is the deity worshipped by Conan the Barbarian in the series of books by that name.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 02, 2019 02:19 PM (nPGq2)

365 "what I don't get about Mitch is he was, in 2012, the most conservative and border-realist GOP candidate available. "
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Get this. He was lying.

Posted by: ... at January 02, 2019 02:19 PM (uEbPt)

366 I just received an "invitation" to attend an alumni event.
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Come and learn what it's like to be a female.

Posted by: A Tom Ford Event at January 02, 2019 02:19 PM (vDqXW)

367 >>Open Borders are very important to Jews.

Yet, they hate bridges.

Posted by: Vox at January 02, 2019 02:19 PM (OaqE8)

368 I have no interest in protecting Ayn Rand's estate's hold on Atlas Shrugged. She's been dead for more than 30 years.

Yeah I'm more for life +25. That's enough time to hold on to any property. As much as I like having the Tolkien foundation protect JRR Tolkien's properties, its pretty self-policing. Look at the latest Sherlock Holmes film. If its awful, it doesn't succeed.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 02:20 PM (39g3+)

369 Apparently Romney also said Trump is icky because he is a great divider, and what the country needs in a president is a great uniter.

Like Obama? Like the Detroit police acted stupidly, I won, that guy? If that is uniting I want no part of it.

Trump united all those worried about our country and helped see who is really on OUR side. The actual socialists and the GOPe socialists just hate that their mask of faux caring was ripped away.

Posted by: LizLem at January 02, 2019 02:20 PM (Myxyb)

370 364 That's unreadable garbage.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, If you've read and enjoyed any of my works, please leave a review on Amazon. at January 02, 2019 02:16 PM (q8oeS)

Yep. It's the kind of gushing pablum written by teen-aged girls who dot their "i's" with hearts.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 02, 2019 02:19 PM (Ofz3/)

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It's buzzwords surrounded by something resembling grammar.

The work of psychology majors.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, If you've read and enjoyed any of my works, please leave a review on Amazon. at January 02, 2019 02:20 PM (q8oeS)

371 You know, as much as I despise Romney, and regard his smarmy hectoring with delight only for the sheer number of LIV who will say "whoa, one advantage of President Trump is he sounds nothing like -this- asshole..."

... Blame The Jews just edges out Romney in the Olympics of Contempt. C'mon, man, at the least mix things up. Blame all Mormons, or something.

Posted by: trev006 at January 02, 2019 02:20 PM (HEZSM)

372 Ah yes, sink American Fleet.

That worked so well for us 80 years ago.

Posted by: Japanese General Staff at January 02, 2019 02:20 PM (kfj5i)

373 82???? How big is this school? Even if we assume diversity enforcement is a good idea, what should the ratio be?

0/[whatever the enrollment of the school is]

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 02, 2019 02:20 PM (Ofz3/)

374 333 >> It's the Jews.

First Stormfrontin' of the New Year!

Posted by: garrett at January 02, 2019 02:15 PM (OaqE

Yeah, that or Average Joe. It's like getting over an intestinal infection either way.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at January 02, 2019 02:20 PM (RD7QR)

375 325 It's the Jews. Open Borders are very important to Jews. As a Diaspora who don't assimilate, they are constantly in danger when in an area with a homogenized group of people. That'[s why they've been expelled from 109 countries and principalities in recorded history.

They figured out that by creating "multicultural" by which they mean multi-racial areas, they are sfaer. When the Blacks are too mad at the Whites, the White are too mad at the Latins, the Latins are too poor to do anything, the Jews can thrive.

Look into the funding of all the pro-open border groups.

You know I'm right.
Posted by: ItstheJews at January 02, 2019 02:14 PM (qufem)

Well, then they are pretty damn stupid to import Muslims, aren't they? :-P

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 02, 2019 02:20 PM (ujg0T)

376 what the fuck are you talking about, fucking illegals get EITC refunds, thanks obama. so why won't they soon get other benefits.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at January 02, 2019 02:21 PM (7J5t2)

377 There's also a 100% chance that social security goes tits up within one generation.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 02, 2019 02:18 PM (O7MnT)

At some point, it absolutely will. No one knows when though.

Against all odds, it's survived this long.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 02, 2019 02:21 PM (GBteo)

378 Let us compromise at modest tiny 700,000 per year.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 02, 2019 02:21 PM (X5Ak6)

379 It's buzzwords surrounded by something resembling grammar.

The work of psychology majors.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, If you've read and enjoyed any of my works, please leave a review on Amazon. at January 02, 2019 02:20 PM (q8oeS)

There's more, but you get the tenor of the blurb.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 02, 2019 02:21 PM (Ofz3/)

380 371 I have no interest in protecting Ayn Rand's estate's hold on Atlas Shrugged. She's been dead for more than 30 years.

Yeah I'm more for life +25. That's enough time to hold on to any property. As much as I like having the Tolkien foundation protect JRR Tolkien's properties, its pretty self-policing. Look at the latest Sherlock Holmes film. If its awful, it doesn't succeed.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 02:20 PM (39g3+)

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Copyright should extend no longer than patents.

Patents last for 12 years.

Let's do that!

Although, I really like the idea of 28 years plus one optional extra term of 28 years if applied for.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, If you've read and enjoyed any of my works, please leave a review on Amazon. at January 02, 2019 02:21 PM (q8oeS)

381 How does anyone think that we can exist as a country without controlling our borders?

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As the "activists" were chanting the other day:

No.borders, no wall, no USA at all!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 02, 2019 02:21 PM (+y/Ru)

382 >>Blame all Mormons, or something.
Posted by: trev006 at January 02, 2019 02:20 PM (HEZSM)

Just about all the juice was squeezed from that lemon earlier this morning.

Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 02:21 PM (Bdeb0)

383 353 What am I missing? How does anyone think that we can exist as a country without controlling our borders?

If you would like to know how anyone thinks that we can exist as a country without controlling our borders, oprima dos.

Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 02:19 PM (Bdeb0)funny.

Posted by: Quint at January 02, 2019 02:21 PM (n13/j)

384 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 02, 2019 02:19 PM (nPGq2)

Didn't see it. So, Glad to know that Zod is not an Atheist, after all. He worships a character in a Arnold Schwarznegger film.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2019 02:22 PM (AllCR)

385 what I don't get about Mitch is he was, in 2012, the most conservative and border-realist GOP candidate available.

He may have been at the time. But its been 7 years and the fear of collapse from demographic changes and the increasing debt from entitlements, plus the very real political truth that nobody can touch them has politicians running scared. Plus, money money money. The huge flow of cash and nubile party girls from the Chamber of Commerce types is hard to reject.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 02:22 PM (39g3+)

386 Bush I gave us 8 years of Clenis
Bush II gave us 8 years of Obama and the wonders of Compassionate Conservatism aka Stratified Socialism

Bush I gave us the largest (up until then) tax increase in history, an expensive and inconclusive war in the Middle East, the Americans with Disabilities Act, and David Souter.

Bush II gave us an even more expensive and inconclusive war in the middle East, open borders (prosecution of border agents), the TSA, $4 Trillion in debt, the Wall Street bailout, the incandescent light bulb ban, No Child Left Behind, McCain-Feingold, and John Roberts.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 02, 2019 02:22 PM (O7MnT)

387 It's the Joes.

You know I'm right.

Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 02:22 PM (Bdeb0)

388 Ace. You're right.

What's essentially happening is a Very Bad combo of:

- Intra-WyPipo competition, wherein Our Betters are tired of having to compete with us on any front.

- Elites who have hired some really nice, really cheap Amerinds for their estates and houses, and really like them way way WAY better than, well, than us

and

- The fact that our FedGov is a massive pyramid scheme, and we're running out of warm bodies to keep it remotely running.

I remember posting here ages ago about walking up Broad Street just for the heck of it, from the nice part of South Philly to the nice part of Center City. You go thru quite a large slum. And back then (five years ago? a little more?) I noted how much of these slums were empty. just rows and rows of houses and no people. And yet supposedly in Philly they were voting for Dems at massive rates! It really really didn't seem believable, the numbers, at all (on many levels).

Now go thru that same nabe, and you will see lots of people. None of them are legal. All of them are "voting" at very high rates, however. Look! Like magic, the Dem Machine is believeable, again.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at January 02, 2019 02:22 PM (Rarvo)

389 How does anyone think that we can exist as a country without controlling our borders"

Well, first, stop teaching history...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 02, 2019 02:22 PM (CNm1v)

390 379 If you don't believe me have a fun time googling what all the Jews on the right have to say about American borders versus Israeli borders.

They know walls work. They know immigration needs to be controlled. They just only want that for the Jewish state, not the goyish State in which they live.

Because they can always move to Israel when the gated communities are finally overrun.
Posted by: ItstheJews at January 02, 2019 02:20 PM (qufem)

And it's really smart of them to destroy the nation that props up Israel, isn't it? :-P

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 02, 2019 02:22 PM (ujg0T)

391

It's the juice.

And the fags.

Posted by: Anita Bryant at January 02, 2019 02:22 PM (YM7io)

392 Immigrant doctors and engineers are welcome. Fruit pickers, fry cooks, and landscapers can stay in their own countries.
Posted by: Ironwood at January 02, 2019 02:18 PM (3T/nT)

Are they though?

You take on $300,000 in debt to go to college, medical school and survive your residency. You graduate only to find out that you're now competing against very nice people from India who got a medical degree for almost free, allegedly with the same rigorous standards (despite India being one of the most corrupt countries on the planet), and they can absolutely afford to work for much cheaper than you can.

Same is true in the technology world and many other STEM industries now.

how is that fair to the American kid?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 02, 2019 02:22 PM (GBteo)

393 Romney, McCain, Teddy the K --
Why should we give two cents what they think? Seems to me these 3 assclowns are all LOSERS. They all lost their shot at being POTUS. And this means we should line up behind them and listen to their wisdom?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 02, 2019 02:03 PM (jxbfJ)

They are our self-proclaimed betters and their opinions are obviously superior to those who have not had an apotheosis via creased trousers and a reservation at Tavern on the Green. Yes we should listen to them because they are going to win because they said so.

(Obviously sarcastic.)

Posted by: Mikey NTH -The Outrage Outlet Wishes You a Testy New Year! at January 02, 2019 02:22 PM (hLRSq)

394 Open Borders are very important to Jews.

Yet, they hate bridges.
Posted by: Vox

That would be Kennedys.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 02, 2019 02:22 PM (2GjZZ)

395 They just only want that for the Jewish state, not the goyish State in which they live.

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All of America will become Jaime-town!

That way, they can tend our wine grapes while we whip the goyim we enslave to make our blini and our kreplach!

Posted by: Welcome to Jaime-town at January 02, 2019 02:23 PM (AzW6q)

396 >>Posted by: ItstheJews at January 02, 2019 02:20 PM (qufem)

Let me guess, a Jewish man refused to let you suck his dick?

Posted by: garrett at January 02, 2019 02:23 PM (OaqE8)

397 A naval war between China and the US?

Imagine being the Coast Guard crews in Long Beach CA?

Can you say Chinese Merchant Marine prizes? Can you say seize them as fast as you can?

Posted by: rd at January 02, 2019 02:23 PM (kfj5i)

398 Blame all Mormons, or something.
Posted by: trev006 at January 02, 2019 02:20 PM (HEZSM)

Just about all the juice was squeezed from that lemon earlier this morning.
Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 02:21 PM (Bdeb0)
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Jehovah's Witnesses?

Posted by: Axeman at January 02, 2019 02:23 PM (vDqXW)

399 Every gentile should have one day where we get to use the weather machine. To know what it's like to be a Jew.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 02, 2019 02:23 PM (KUaJL)

400

It's the JuJuBees

Posted by: Willy Wonka at January 02, 2019 02:23 PM (YM7io)

401 fucking illegals get EITC refunds, thanks obama. so why won't they soon get other benefits.

a recent report stated that 63% of illegals receive some type of welfare. Thats almost twice the rate of citizens

http://tinyurl.com/yayrxxlw

Posted by: McCool at January 02, 2019 02:23 PM (WXSv6)

402 380 what the fuck are you talking about, fucking illegals get EITC refunds, thanks obama. so why won't they soon get other benefits.
Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at January 02, 2019 02:21 PM (7J5t2)

EITC? EITC??? Slowly I turn, step by step ...

The "earned income tax credit" is an Orwellian program. A tax credit is a forgiveness for some portion of future taxes. The EITC is NOT a tax credit. It's a straight give-away, Federal welfare, and should be dispensed with.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 02, 2019 02:24 PM (Ofz3/)

403 Immigrant doctors and engineers are welcome. Fruit pickers, fry cooks, and landscapers can stay in their own countries.

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ok you can keep the street shitter doctors who go to fake overseas medical skools to take care of you.

this is bullshit. We don't need new people to take jobs from Americans at any level.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at January 02, 2019 02:24 PM (7J5t2)

404 What am I missing? How does anyone think that we can exist as a country without controlling our borders?

*They* don't want us to be a country. *They* are trans-nationalists who have moved on from the silly notions of borders, culture, and patriotism.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 02, 2019 02:24 PM (O7MnT)

405 Don't requote the troll.

In fact ignore it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2019 02:24 PM (Y+V3r)

406 How does anyone think that we can exist as a country without controlling our borders"

Well, first, stop teaching history...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 02, 2019 02:22 PM (CNm1v)
Check!

Posted by: NEA at January 02, 2019 02:24 PM (n13/j)

407 He worships a character in a Arnold Schwarznegger film."

*sigh*

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 02, 2019 02:24 PM (CNm1v)

408 "They figured out that by creating "multicultural" by which they mean multi-racial areas, they are sfaer."

How did the multi-ethnic Russian Empire work out for them?

Posted by: Mikey NTH -The Outrage Outlet Wishes You a Testy New Year! at January 02, 2019 02:25 PM (hLRSq)

409 Like Obama? Like the Detroit police acted stupidly, I won, that guy? If that is uniting I want no part of it.

For me that's the deal-killer. All these neverTrumpers, if they'd have been at least as hard on Obama as they are Trump, I'd be willing to give them a break. If Romney had tore into Obama and attacked his policies and persona like they do Trump's persona, OK at least you're consistent and I can give you some points for doing both.

But no, they were all hands off on Obama beyond a few minor criticisms of some policies, and attack Trump like he ran over their puppy. And that's the problem I cannot get past.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 02:25 PM (39g3+)

410 Patents last for 12 years.

Let's do that!

Although, I really like the idea of 28 years plus one optional extra term of 28 years if applied for.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, If you've read and enjoyed any of my works, please leave a review on Amazon. at January 02, 2019 02:21 PM (q8oeS)

not for nothing, but patents last for 20 years from filing.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 02, 2019 02:25 PM (GBteo)

411 Ever since they stole our Nuclear tech they've been untouchable.
Posted by: ItstheJews at January 02, 2019 02:24 PM (qufem)

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Tremble before our Intercontinental Ballistic Mexicans, gentile!

Posted by: Welcome to Jaime-town at January 02, 2019 02:25 PM (AzW6q)

412 Yeah, that or Average Joe. It's like getting over an intestinal infection either way.
Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at January 02, 2019 02:20 PM (RD7QR)

And sucking cock by choice.....

Posted by: Sponge at January 02, 2019 02:25 PM (F4u7C)

413 Semi-Literate Thug: "One theory of the end game these deranged elitists envision, is ultimately replacing almost all of the population with automation, AI, and robots, so that a small privileged remnant (the elite and their descendants) can live a life of ease in a depopulated world..."

So, Elysium.

But, yes, I can certainly see a form of global feudalism wherein most live in the hinterlands while a select few build walled/defended installations with rent-payers/peasants slaving away for the lords.

When AI and robotics mature, Earth will be a quite different place. It will have a lot of ugliness.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at January 02, 2019 02:25 PM (6eEQ+)

414 Posted by: ItstheJews at January 02, 2019 02:20 PM (qufem)

Why do you use Google? The Jews run Google. Weak

Posted by: ... at January 02, 2019 02:25 PM (uEbPt)

415 It's the 'hoes.

You know I'm right.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 02, 2019 02:25 PM (+y/Ru)

416 >>Didn't see it. So, Glad to know that Zod is not an Atheist, after all. He worships a character in a Arnold Schwarznegger film. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2019 02:22 PM (AllCR)

Wrong. He *quotes* from a fictional scripture concerning a character in an Arnold Schwarzenegger film.

Resume your toil, serf.

Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 02:25 PM (Bdeb0)

417 396 Immigrant doctors and engineers are welcome. Fruit pickers, fry cooks, and landscapers can stay in their own countries.
Posted by: Ironwood at January 02, 2019 02:18 PM (3T/nT)

Are they though?

You take on $300,000 in debt to go to college, medical school and survive your residency. You graduate only to find out that you're now competing against very nice people from India who got a medical degree for almost free, allegedly with the same rigorous standards (despite India being one of the most corrupt countries on the planet), and they can absolutely afford to work for much cheaper than you can.

Same is true in the technology world and many other STEM industries now.

how is that fair to the American kid?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 02, 2019 02:22 PM (GBteo)

Bingo. The American kids have less incentive to study it when the wages for it are undercut. They all go study Finance or Business or something where their English fluency is an innate advantage the immigrants usually don't have.

I was there in University. I saw that.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 02, 2019 02:25 PM (ujg0T)

418 Everyone on this thread is going to Hell!

Posted by: David French at January 02, 2019 02:25 PM (DuAZ5)

419
If the US is supposedly getting other countries' best and brightest, in what condition does that put the countries they left? What happens to Mexico, India, wherever, if they all high tail it for the US? Those home countries get worse. Ask the open borders supporter Why do you want Mexico to get worse? Why do you want India to lose its best doctors and engineers?

Posted by: Hands at January 02, 2019 01:48 PM (786Ro)

They go to hell.

The Philippines has the largest (legal) migrant work-force on earth. With 9% of their population overseas, the Philippines sends its' best to work as maids, nanny's doctors and nurses, entertainers and laborers.

In return they get a metric shit-ton of money in remittances, that the government gets a chunk of to fuel the endless graft.

I have said over and again if America needs laborers they can take in people with a two-year contract and then they return home. But of course this is not about filling a labor shortage, it is about open borders and destroying America sovereignty.

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at January 02, 2019 02:25 PM (SCiS1)

420 There's also a 100% chance that social security goes tits up within one generation.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 02, 2019 02:18 PM (O7MnT)

At some point, it absolutely will. No one knows when though.

Against all odds, it's survived this long.
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For some values of survive. Its really dead already. There's no money for it. Its all straight up putting it on the charge card to buy food, clothing and shelter for the retired. It'll last as long as the banks will loan money.

Debt slavery, no shackles required. You grab onto your own chains and refuse to let go.

Posted by: Ancient Chinese Secret at January 02, 2019 02:25 PM (H+zAv)

421 Blame all Mormons, or something.

Harry Reid.
Mitt Romney.
Jeff Flake.
Egg Mcmoofin.

Help me out here.

Posted by: mikeyG at January 02, 2019 02:26 PM (LL1Be)

422 Posted by: garrett at January 02, 2019 02:23 PM (OaqE

This is why we can't ignore trolls

Posted by: ... at January 02, 2019 02:26 PM (uEbPt)

423 >>Posted by: ItstheJews at January 02, 2019 02:24 PM (qufem)

Seriously, these kind of people are a laugh riot.

Educate us some more, please.

Posted by: garrett at January 02, 2019 02:26 PM (OaqE8)

424 Don't requote the troll.

In fact ignore it
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2019 02:24 PM (Y+V3r)
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Or you could anticipate the blog being set up by an Alinskyan.

Posted by: Axeman at January 02, 2019 02:26 PM (vDqXW)

425 Didn't see it. So, Glad to know that Zod is not an Atheist, after all. He worships a character in a Arnold Schwarznegger film.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2019 02:22 PM (AllCR)

Never saw the film. Or read the Robert Howard books. I do recall seeing Conan comic books. Crom's presence there as a "character" was pretty much limited to Conan shouting "Crom!" when startled, or victorious in a battle.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 02, 2019 02:26 PM (nPGq2)

426 >>Jehovah's Witnesses?
Posted by: Axeman at January 02, 2019 02:23 PM (vDqXW)

I think you need a second to take the motion to the floor.

Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 02:26 PM (Bdeb0)

427 I smell a banning in 3.... 2....

Posted by: ... at January 02, 2019 02:26 PM (uEbPt)

428 GOP Chair Ronna McDaniel has criticized Rombley, saying it's "disappointing and unproductive" for him to side with Dems and the media in undermining Trump.

https://outline.com/C4Fe6P

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at January 02, 2019 02:27 PM (hjaPQ)

429 >>425 Everyone on this thread is going to Hell!
Posted by: David French at January 02, 2019 02:25 PM (DuAZ5)

Everyone?

Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 02:27 PM (Bdeb0)

430 398 Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 02, 2019 02:20 PM (ujg0T)

Why would that be a problem for them?
Posted by: ItstheJews at January 02, 2019 02:22 PM (qufem)

Because the dirty little secret the leftmedia won't admit is that anti-Semitic violence and vandalism is invariably by Muslims, Black Militants, or both.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 02, 2019 02:27 PM (ujg0T)

431 Isn't there someone here with the ban hammer for that little prick

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2019 02:27 PM (Y+V3r)

432
Anyone remember what Fraud Romney's "favorite meat" is?

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at January 02, 2019 02:27 PM (YM7io)

433 Look, dude, if you wanna be the most prominent Mormon in the country, perhaps you could act less homosexual?

Posted by: Every Other Mormon at January 02, 2019 01:45 PM (76Nxz)

Amen!

Posted by: G. Gnome, GNOMCO Home Defense System and Turkey Fryer Salesman at January 02, 2019 02:27 PM (al6UK)

434 Well, first, stop teaching history...

Done! Helloooooooo "Social Studies"!!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at January 02, 2019 02:27 PM (Rarvo)

435 On the bright side, even if Willard totally fucks up his political career in Utah, there are still 54 more states he can move to and run for office.

Posted by: Fritz at January 02, 2019 02:27 PM (2Mnv1)

436 allegedly with the same rigorous standards"

Do NOT get me started on that.

I'm a bit under the weather and need the rest...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 02, 2019 02:28 PM (CNm1v)

437 Patents last for 12 years.

Patents last for 20 years from date of the first filing. Patent prosecution typically takes 2-3 years, so patents generally last about 17 or so years from the date of granting. (Which used to be the statutory period.)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 02, 2019 02:28 PM (Ofz3/)

438 All I have to say about Romney is I'm certain he's got a very strong understanding of what it's like to be a woman.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 02, 2019 02:28 PM (KUaJL)

439 (((Icebergs)))

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 02, 2019 02:28 PM (X5Ak6)

440 Blame all Mormons, or something.

In fairness, the LDS Church is very pro-illegal immigrant. As is the Catholic Church. And the Methodist Church. And the Baptist Church. Pretty much all of them.

It's "Christian" to take in all these poor foreigners, don't cha know.

Not that any of them are going to personally pay for the cost of housing, feeding, clothing, and doctoring them.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 02, 2019 02:28 PM (O7MnT)

441 This new troll is fascinating, its like watching a schizophrenic who sounds kinda off at first then descends into full lizard people insanity.

Crom's presence there as a "character" was pretty much limited to Conan shouting "Crom!" when startled, or victorious in a battle.

Yeah Conan's allegiance to Crom was little more than a recognition of authority. He didn't worship, he didn't sacrifice, he barely even tried to pray. It was more a "Crom is the boss, but he lets me live my life and maybe when I die I get to party with him" kind of thing than religion.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 02:28 PM (39g3+)

442 Everyone on this thread is going to Hell!

Hah! Wrong!
We are in the Twilight Zone.
The thread IS Hell.
muhahaha

Posted by: mikeyG at January 02, 2019 02:29 PM (LL1Be)

443

Hot Dogs.

Romney said his favorite meat is hot dogs.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at January 02, 2019 02:29 PM (YM7io)

444 Bingo. The American kids have less incentive to study it when the wages for it are undercut. They all go study Finance or Business or something where their English fluency is an innate advantage the immigrants usually don't have.

I was there in University. I saw that.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 02, 2019 02:25 PM (ujg0T)

Yeah, me too. My best friend took the MCAT and was applying to medical schools, and one of the schools suggested he shadow some local doctors to hear their thoughts about going in to medicine.

All 3 said "don't do it, dude. The only way to survive is to work for a hospital group, you'll take on an unbelievable amount of debt, and you'll be living paycheck to paycheck for 20 years, while working your ass off and having to do deal with horrible bureaucracy all day. If you try to do your own thing, the malpractice insurance is ludicrously high, and your staffing costs for trying to stay compliant with all kinds of laws and insurance company nonsense will mean you're on razor thin margins."

He went in to IT instead.

Smart guy. Would have made a great doctor.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 02, 2019 02:29 PM (GBteo)

445 I think Romney has given away the GOPe game plan for future elections:

They are going to run against President Trump; as the "anti-Trump."

Which, as we all know, will lock up the deplorable vote, as in, sitting at home waiting for the next D to be sworn in as president.

I'm looking forward to voting for President Trump in 2020 but after that? We'll never see anyone remotely like President Trump again.

The GOPe would rather roll over on their collective back and get their bellies rubbed rather than come out swinging.

Posted by: Blake - tis the season for grinching at January 02, 2019 02:29 PM (qC1Sy)

446 All I have to say about Romney is I'm certain he's got a very strong understanding of what it's like to be a woman.

Heh.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 02, 2019 02:29 PM (O7MnT)

447 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 02, 2019 02:26 PM (nPGq2)

Well, evidently Zod knows quite a bit about the Cromish Scriptures.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2019 02:30 PM (AllCR)

448 Bingo. The American kids have less incentive to study it when the wages for it are undercut. They all go study Finance or Business or something where their English fluency is an innate advantage the immigrants usually don't have.

I was there in University. I saw that.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 02, 2019 02:25 PM (ujg0T)

I advised my sons not to go into STEM for just that reason.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 02, 2019 02:30 PM (Ofz3/)

449 How does anyone think that we can exist as a country without controlling our borders"

Implement an education program that teaches successive generations that America is an evil racist nation and that we should welcome any other people who want to replace us.

Posted by: McCool at January 02, 2019 02:30 PM (WXSv6)

450 All I have to say about Romney is I'm certain he's got a very strong understanding of what it's like to be a woman.
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Isn't that what guys on the left pride themselves on?

Now we know.

Posted by: Axeman at January 02, 2019 02:30 PM (vDqXW)

451 427 There's also a 100% chance that social security goes tits up within one generation.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 02, 2019 02:18 PM (O7MnT)

At some point, it absolutely will. No one knows when though.

Against all odds, it's survived this long.
=====
For some values of survive. Its really dead already. There's no money for it. Its all straight up putting it on the charge card to buy food, clothing and shelter for the retired. It'll last as long as the banks will loan money.

Debt slavery, no shackles required. You grab onto your own chains and refuse to let go.

Posted by: Ancient Chinese Secret at January 02, 2019 02:25 PM (H+zAv)

I wonder if raising the retirement age a tad bought it some time. IF they raised the retirement age to 75 it probably WOULD be solvent again.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 02, 2019 02:30 PM (ujg0T)

452

I have no interest in protecting Ayn Rand's estate's hold on Atlas Shrugged. She's been dead for more than 30 years.

Yeah I'm more for life +25. That's enough time to hold on to any property. As much as I like having the Tolkien foundation protect JRR Tolkien's properties, its pretty self-policing. Look at the latest Sherlock Holmes film. If its awful, it doesn't succeed.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 02:20 PM (39g3+)

============

Copyright should extend no longer than patents.

Patents last for 12 years.

Let's do that!

Although, I really like the idea of 28 years plus one optional extra term of 28 years if applied for.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, If you've read and enjoyed any of my works, please leave a review on Amazon. at January 02, 2019 02:21 PM (

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Disney should not use copyright to protect its characters.

They should use Trademark laws. So what if Mickey Mouse is copyrighted by Disney. That only covers the old works.

How does Copyright protect them from someone making a Mickey and Goofy scatological gay snuff porno cartoon? Wouldn't Trademark do the same?

Posted by: rd at January 02, 2019 02:30 PM (kfj5i)

453 Nah, the Jews get to suck enough baby dick. It really is digusting when they mutilate a baby's tiny little dick and suck blood out of it.

Jews are pretty messed up when you think about it.
Posted by: ItstheJews at January 02, 2019 02:25 PM (qufem)

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Like 90% of the males in my generation, I was snipped. I'm not Jewish.

Tell us about the circumcision conspiracy.

And about smegma. I never had any, so I'm wondering what that's like.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 02, 2019 02:31 PM (qj9tb)

454 Romney said his favorite meat is hot dogs.

Every single word from his mouth, every gesture, every single hair combed into place, every expression from that man is focus-grouped and carefully trained, studied, and memorized. He's even more artificial than Rubio's pathetic memorized talking points. He's been working on becoming president the same way Obama had, studying and practicing in the mirror and with specialists his whole life.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 02:31 PM (39g3+)

455 So what, then? I feel like a lot of people like to talk big about immigration, but then agree to do nothing. And the wall isn't convincing me. Without E-Verify, it's nothing but symbolic.
Posted by: Dr Spaceman at January 02, 2019 02:17 PM (TeOcQ)

E verify for any normal job.

Guest worker status for seasonal jobs... BUT they can't bring families and get NO government benefits, including school for their kids.

We can fix this... easily... they just don't WANT to.

Posted by: Don Q at January 02, 2019 02:31 PM (NgKpN)

456 >>>Just about all the juice was squeezed from that lemon earlier this morning. Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 02:21 PM

I was mildly impressed this thread had not descended into full on Mormon bashing. But all that rage getting worked out earlier today on another post makes sense. Glad I was still asleep during the morning threads.

Posted by: LizLem at January 02, 2019 02:31 PM (Myxyb)

457 372
Apparently Romney also said Trump is icky because he is a great divider,
and what the country needs in a president is a great uniter.

Like Obama? Like the Detroit police acted stupidly, I won, that guy? If that is uniting I want no part of it.

Trump united all those worried about our country and helped see who
is really on OUR side. The actual socialists and the GOPe socialists
just hate that their mask of faux caring was ripped away.

Posted by: LizLem at January 02, 2019 02:20 PM (Myxyb)

^^^^^^^^^^^
THIS

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 02, 2019 02:32 PM (jxbfJ)

458 And about smegma. I never had any, so I'm wondering what that's like.

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It's a sebaceous, cheese-like substance I spread on my toast because I love all things cock.

Posted by: ItsTheJews at January 02, 2019 02:32 PM (AzW6q)

459 Open Borders does not compute. The line has to be drawn somewhere.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at January 02, 2019 02:32 PM (FTPVM)

460 Where the fuck is Ace when you really need him

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2019 02:32 PM (Y+V3r)

461 gladly trade a card carrying American lefty for a hard working immigrant, one for one, let's do a deal.

Posted by: Quint at January 02, 2019 02:32 PM (n13/j)

462 Google: Eric Clopper

When you get worked up about male circumcision, you have officially reached Peak Troll.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 02, 2019 02:32 PM (ujg0T)

463 I wonder if raising the retirement age a tad bought it some time. IF they raised the retirement age to 75 it probably WOULD be solvent again.

That would kick the can down the road a generation or two maybe. Its innately impossible to sustain by its nature.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 02:33 PM (39g3+)

464 Resume your toil, serf.

Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 02:25 PM (Bdeb0)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2019 02:33 PM (AllCR)

465 Well, evidently Zod knows quite a bit about the Cromish Scriptures.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2019 02:30 PM (AllCR)

When a man is born Crom breathes into him the strength to live and fight, which is enough for a man to expect from his people's god.

Posted by: Mikey NTH -The Outrage Outlet Wishes You a Testy New Year! at January 02, 2019 02:33 PM (hLRSq)

466 >>Posted by: ItstheJews at January 02, 2019 02:30 PM (qufem)

Don't you have a Cross Burning to attend?

Posted by: garrett at January 02, 2019 02:33 PM (OaqE8)

467 33% of the Supreme court

Not for long...

Posted by: Amy Coney Barrett, waiting in the wings at January 02, 2019 02:33 PM (t2P6q)

468 I wonder if raising the retirement age a tad bought it some time. IF they raised the retirement age to 75 it probably WOULD be solvent again.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 02, 2019 02:30 PM (ujg0T)

For a short period of time, sure.

But it is unfixable.

Let me put it this way: social security started paying out on day 1. To people who had never paid in a cent.

It was always about current working generation paying for retired generation. It required an exponential growth in the workforce to maintain itself, which is obviously unreasonable to assume.

You can tweak payouts, retirement ages, eligibility, whatever -- but at the end of the day, it always required an exponentially growing amount of new money coming in to fund the benefits for the people who were collecting.

It's really a classic pyramid scheme.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 02, 2019 02:34 PM (GBteo)

469 >>>Genocide is a 20th century word, referring to events and actions in the 20th century. Wiping out your enemy ( at least the men folk) was a common occurence in biblical time totally unrelated to 20th century "genocide" which is an word often misused when referring to todays' events also
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2019 02:12 PM (Y+V3r)
___________
We all agree that many people, particularly on the left incorrectly use genocide to refer to things that do not fit the dictionary definition. And no one is claiming that destroying an army in battle is genocide. We agree 100%.

It is also folly to claim that today's words cannot be used to refer to past events. The entire English language did not exist back then and we probably agree that it's silly to say English words that didn't exist back then can't be used to describe something from the, epic of Gilgamesh, or ancient Greece, and others.

We can even narrow it down to just the Amalekites, who God ordered Saul to kill to the man woman, child, and even livestock. That is the dictionary definition of a genocide whether or not the English word existed back then.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at January 02, 2019 02:34 PM (oI6j8)

470 You dumbass flyover people deserve what you get.

With your disgusting eggnog and your silly candy canes and your stupid colored lights all over your houses!

Did you ever think of how all that made ME feel?

Posted by: Julia Ioffe at January 02, 2019 02:34 PM (DuAZ5)

471 So what, then? I feel like a lot of people like to talk big about immigration, but then agree to do nothing. And the wall isn't convincing me. Without E-Verify, it's nothing but symbolic.
Posted by: Dr Spaceman at January 02, 2019 02:17 PM (TeOcQ)

E verify for any normal job.

Guest worker status for seasonal jobs... BUT they can't bring families and get NO government benefits, including school for their kids.

We can fix this... easily... they just don't WANT to.
Posted by: Don Q

THIS!
There are so many things we can do.
No one wants to do them.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 02, 2019 02:34 PM (2GjZZ)

472 I eat bacon and fuck shiksas. I'm assimilated as fuck.

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at January 02, 2019 02:34 PM (mEwtE)

473 IF they raised the retirement age to 75 it probably WOULD be solvent again.

That's whackobird talk; by which I mean, too commonsensical for political reality.

On the one side, the unions would squeal. On the other, the millennials (I am married to one) resent that their boomer bosses already refuse to retire and make room for them to move on up.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 02, 2019 02:34 PM (O7MnT)

474 oh shit we're going circumcision ?!!?

can crossbows be far behind?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at January 02, 2019 02:34 PM (Rarvo)

475 Posted by: ItsTheJews at January 02, 2019 02:32 PM (AzW6q)

Barry, is that you?

Posted by: Choom Gang Member #3 at January 02, 2019 02:34 PM (F4u7C)

476 >>Where the fuck is Ace when you really need him

Putting up shelves, to further the Zionist cause.

Posted by: garrett at January 02, 2019 02:34 PM (OaqE8)

477 Well, evidently Zod knows quite a bit about the Cromish Scriptures"

Crom is from Celtic mythology...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 02, 2019 02:34 PM (CNm1v)

478 Whoops; Computer acting funky again

Resume your letting your buttons be pushed, Zoddy!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2019 02:34 PM (AllCR)

479 All 3 said "don't do it, dude. The only way to survive is to work for a hospital group, you'll take on an unbelievable amount of debt, and you'll be living paycheck to paycheck for 20 years, while working your ass off and having to do deal with horrible bureaucracy all day. If you try to do your own thing, the malpractice insurance is ludicrously high, and your staffing costs for trying to stay compliant with all kinds of laws and insurance company nonsense will mean you're on razor thin margins."

He went in to IT instead.

Smart guy. Would have made a great doctor.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 02, 2019 02:29 PM (GBteo)

---------------

Dentists used to advise their kids to become Doctors. Now Docs advise their kids to become Dentists.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 02, 2019 02:35 PM (ffYR/)

480 >>I was mildly impressed this thread had not descended into full on Mormon bashing. But all that rage getting worked out earlier today on another post makes sense. Glad I was still asleep during the morning threads. Posted by: LizLem at January 02, 2019 02:31 PM (Myxyb)

There was plenty of squealing that Romney wasn't the Utah Mormon candidate. That dog, as the deplorable expression goes, don't hunt, as many here acknowledged. That was about the size of it.

We have a motion to mock Jehovahs Witnesses, but the motion needs a second. Do we have a second?

Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 02:35 PM (Bdeb0)

481 We can fix this... easily... they just don't WANT to.
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Correct. I support the wall, but it won't solve our immigration problems. That will take federal officeholders who aren't, you know, corrupt-as-shit lying-ass shitbags who lie.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at January 02, 2019 02:35 PM (hjaPQ)

482 I wonder if raising the retirement age a tad bought it some time. IF they raised the retirement age to 75 it probably WOULD be solvent again.
Posted by: Curmudgeon

Which is more wage and debt slavery. Anyone pushing a pyramid scheme would love this. Condemn yet another generation to this to stave off reality.

Posted by: Blue Hen at January 02, 2019 02:35 PM (e1q4h)

483 You know who's behind this?

The Jaws. You know I'm right.

Posted by: James Bond and Matt Hooper at January 02, 2019 02:35 PM (mEwtE)

484 The only kind thing I have to say about Mitt Romney is that he appears not to be a wife cheater like Cock Cheek McCain.

Though I do have to wonder how a "Republican" ever manager to get elected to statewide office in liberal Taxachusetts ...

Posted by: Kingsnake at January 02, 2019 02:35 PM (3JbJY)

485 Yeah the idea that Jews as a people don't assimilate well does not mesh at all with the complaint that Jews run everything and are responsible for all ill in the world. Its like the argument that all men are rapists but if they put on a dress they're perfectly safe in your daughter's locker room at the swimming pool.

Only the insane can genuinely hold two utterly contradictory ideas at the same time in the same context like that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 02:36 PM (39g3+)

486 another, hiphiphurray! tweet thread from reaboi.

i know what time it is.

Posted by: concrete girl at January 02, 2019 02:36 PM (Wr4LW)

487 >>480 >>>Genocide is a 20th century word, referring to events and actions in the 20th century. Wiping out your enemy ( at least the men folk) was a common occurence in biblical time totally unrelated to 20th century "genocide" which is an word often misused when referring to todays' events also Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2019 02:12 PM (Y+V3r)

You're learning the roundabout way what the expression "arguing with a stop sign" means.

Posted by: Zod at January 02, 2019 02:36 PM (Bdeb0)

488 >> You know who's behind this?

The Jaws. You know I'm right.

Dun - Dun

Dun - Dun - DunDun

Posted by: The Soundtrack of Our Lives at January 02, 2019 02:36 PM (OaqE8)

489 China has one aircraft carrier, which they bought from Ukraine or one of those places and retrofitted it. It's small and wouldn't take much to send it to the bottom.

The Chinese are talking shit. Flash forward 40 years and yeah maybe they'll have a deep water navy that can cash the check.

More likely their economy tanks and internal unrest turns them inwards for a couple of decades.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 02, 2019 02:36 PM (4ErVI)

490 487 >>Where the fuck is Ace when you really need him

Putting up shelves, to further the Zionist cause.
Posted by: garrett at January 02, 2019 02:34 PM (OaqE

Protocols of the Elders of Ikea

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at January 02, 2019 02:36 PM (RD7QR)

491 What is a Jehovahs Witness's favorite band?

The Doors

Posted by: Amy Coney Barrett, waiting in the wings at January 02, 2019 02:37 PM (t2P6q)

492 Is it fair to guess that this guy would also support the feds taking over our 401ks when SS runs out of money?
Posted by: Lizzy at January 02, 2019 02:11 PM (W+vEI)

Pay attention when you hear the name Theresa Ghilarducci. She was holding conferences in October 2010 speaking of doing this very thing. November 2010 scotched it.

Posted by: DanMan at January 02, 2019 02:37 PM (XTiHL)

493 479 I wonder if raising the retirement age a tad bought it some time. IF they raised the retirement age to 75 it probably WOULD be solvent again.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 02, 2019 02:30 PM (ujg0T)

For a short period of time, sure.

But it is unfixable.

Let me put it this way: social security started paying out on day 1. To people who had never paid in a cent.

It was always about current working generation paying for retired generation. It required an exponential growth in the workforce to maintain itself, which is obviously unreasonable to assume.

You can tweak payouts, retirement ages, eligibility, whatever -- but at the end of the day, it always required an exponentially growing amount of new money coming in to fund the benefits for the people who were collecting.

It's really a classic pyramid scheme.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 02, 2019 02:34 PM (GBteo)

Actually, raising the retirement age high enough, where nearly half the potential recipients would die off first, WOULD work. Of course, as VTK pointed out, that is political suicide.

I get it is a trans-generational chain letter, to be sure, just saying.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 02, 2019 02:37 PM (ujg0T)

494 It's the jewels.

You know I'm right.

Posted by: Braithwaite Crodley, Keeper of the Royal Jewels at January 02, 2019 02:37 PM (Bdeb0)

495 I love slobber cock all over my face and in my ass.
I swear I could suck every cock in Mormondom and still hunger for more. Maybe if I shove a telephone pole up my ass I will be satisfied.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at January 02, 2019 02:37 PM (FTPVM)

496
Smart guy. Would have made a great doctor.
=====
most doctor kids now go to law school.

used to be they would go to medical school.

even the docs who immigrated here, their kids go to law school.

The job is just a horror show now. Massive debt, regulation, lawsuits with enormous personal risk, thin margins and terrible hours. Preceeded by years of devilishly hard study and work.

Its not an accident. The deep state's plan is shortages and death panels. Eggs Omelets.

Posted by: simplemind at January 02, 2019 02:38 PM (155B4)

497 Correct. I support the wall, but it won't solve our immigration problems.

Well its like Jordan Peterson who said that abortion is evil but making it illegal won't solve the problem. He's right: it needs to be illegal, but that will not deal with the reasons BEHIND abortion being so common and defended. Culture has to change, we cannot succeed in passing enough laws to the point where bad stuff stops happening.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 02, 2019 02:38 PM (39g3+)

498 Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at January 02, 2019 02:34 PM (oI6j

Words like "genocide" have taken on an importance and extended meaning far beyond their dictionary definition and it is dangerous and muddies the waters to use them to describe events from eons ago. In fact because you used that word, I don't even understand what your original point was. And that is the danger

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2019 02:38 PM (Y+V3r)

499 "For me that's the deal-killer. All these neverTrumpers, if they'd have been at least as hard on Obama as they are Trump, I'd be willing to give them a break. If Romney had tore into Obama and attacked his policies and persona like they do Trump's persona, OK at least you're consistent and I can give you some points for doing both.

But no, they were all hands off on Obama beyond a few minor criticisms of some policies, and attack Trump like he ran over their puppy. And that's the problem I cannot get past."

This.

Posted by: RM at January 02, 2019 02:38 PM (U3LtS)

500 Let me put it this way: social security started paying out on day 1. To people who had never paid in a cent.

It was always about current working generation paying for retired generation. It required an exponential growth in the workforce to maintain itself, which is obviously unreasonable to assume.

So what? We're long dead. We happily accepted the political gain and we aren't around to take the political heat.

Posted by: founders of the SS scam at January 02, 2019 02:38 PM (e1q4h)

501 China has one aircraft carrier, which they bought from Ukraine or one of those places and retrofitted it.

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Russia. They refitted the Varyag. I remember their laughable explanation that the PLA needed a floating casino.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 02, 2019 02:38 PM (AzW6q)

502 Which is more wage and debt slavery. Anyone pushing a pyramid scheme would love this. Condemn yet another generation to this to stave off reality.
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 02, 2019 02:35 PM (e1q4h)

Yeah, as a millennial, this social security nonsense already pisses me off enough as it is. I'd rather it be dismantled then bandaided up so that I have to continue paying in to it for the rest of my life and still probably won't get much / anything out of it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 02, 2019 02:38 PM (GBteo)

503 Romney nood.

Posted by: Someguy at January 02, 2019 02:38 PM (h5Df3)

504 [Though I do have to wonder how a "Republican" ever manager to get elected to statewide office in liberal Taxachusetts ...]

Massachusetts has actually elected a few Republican governors in recent memory; Charlie Baker, Romney, that guy who was Gary Johnson's running mate.

Their congressional delegation is entirely insane Democrats. They re-elected Gary Studds nine times after he molested a house page. They re-elected Barney Frank. They re-elected Liz Warren.

My conclusion is that Massachusettans hate America and therefore, while they occasionally elect a Republican governor, they send the worst people they can possibly find to Congress.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 02, 2019 02:38 PM (O7MnT)

505 What is a Jehovahs Witness's favorite band?

The Doors
Posted by: Amy Coney Barrett, waiting in the wings at January 02, 2019 02:37 PM (t2P6q)
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Favorite novel?

Tommyknockers.

Posted by: Axeman at January 02, 2019 02:38 PM (vDqXW)

506 Never trust a man who won't drink a hot beverage.

Posted by: JayDub Walker at January 02, 2019 02:39 PM (WdNME)

507 Yeah, cause mutilating baby dicks is totally normal and what a normal person should do and be fine with.
Posted by: ItstheJews at January 02, 2019 02:36 PM (qufem)

Enjoy your smegma and your other bacterium.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 02, 2019 02:39 PM (ujg0T)

508 It's really a classic pyramid scheme."

Bingo. Derived from euro schemes during the second new deal...

Interestingly, one of the key SC votes that allowed this was Roberts...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 02, 2019 02:40 PM (CNm1v)

509 Posted by: ItsTheJews at January 02, 2019 02:32 PM (AzW6q) Barry, is that you?
Posted by: Choom Gang Member #3 at January 02, 2019 02:34 PM (F4u7C)

Him or Soros.

Or Jawas.

Posted by: LizLem at January 02, 2019 02:40 PM (Myxyb)

510 Shelves are a Jewish conspiracy. Jews dont need shelves because they store everything in their exoskeletal carapace.

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at January 02, 2019 02:40 PM (mEwtE)

511 Smart guy. Would have made a great doctor.
=====
most doctor kids now go to law school.

used to be they would go to medical school.

even the docs who immigrated here, their kids go to law school.

The job is just a horror show now. Massive debt, regulation, lawsuits with enormous personal risk, thin margins and terrible hours. Preceeded by years of devilishly hard study and work.

And medical errors are a leading cause of death. Go figure.

Posted by: Blue Hen at January 02, 2019 02:40 PM (e1q4h)

512 ""It takes just one person to fuel a movement - one idea to make a wave."

fuel = fund ... Soros ... $18B to his open society "foundation". Foundations are WMDs of the left, and half that money would go to taxes if they didn't claim their globalist movement was "charitable".

We know a couple billion (pay to play and funding her army) passed through her foundation, but much more could have gone unseen. They were clever about using variations of the name, and they had no required audits ... cuz the DoJ and FBI are all part of the mafia/cartel.

It's not one person, but $18B helps, and all the MFM is on board, not to mention the FAANGS, apparently also part of the plan to throttle patriots.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 02, 2019 02:41 PM (Cus5s)

513 Their congressional delegation is entirely insane Democrats. They re-elected Gary Studds nine times after he molested a house page. They re-elected Barney Frank. They re-elected Liz Warren.

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The Three Stooges.

Posted by: Kingsnake at January 02, 2019 02:41 PM (3JbJY)

514 Gotta disagree here with Ace. Romney attacked Trump after Trump pulled out of Syria (or threatened to), and after Mattis quit. That's what set Romney off, not the border stuff. The #NT crowd mostly see the border as a mean-spirited distraction from the important business of touting the latest job numbers and keeping a trip-wire in Syria. The actual number of troops doesn't matter.

Posted by: bjstuggggggz at January 02, 2019 02:43 PM (9DFJS)

515
If any COB is around, we have BSG back as a Stormfronter. Leaving little turds which he will freeze frame for later usage.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 02, 2019 02:43 PM (jYje5)

516 Christopher R Taylor: "Every single word from his mouth, every gesture, every single hair combed into place, every expression from that man is focus-grouped and carefully trained, studied, and memorized..."

I think that's pretty much on the nose at this point. He's a wax museum exhibit. Just cue up the tape player when you get within 15 feet of it and you won't be able to differentiate it from the real thing.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at January 02, 2019 02:43 PM (6eEQ+)

517 Romney will take whatever stance he needs to get the Establishment to like him. I'm ashamed I ever voted for the guy.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 02, 2019 02:45 PM (rJUlF)

518 The work of psychology majors.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, If you've read and enjoyed any of my works, please leave a review on Amazon. at January 02, 2019 02:20 PM (q8oeS)

I just looked up the authoress of this drivel, and you were right: she's a psychology graduate.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 02, 2019 02:45 PM (Ofz3/)

519 I had always assumed smegma was just another euphemism for splooge. But it's not. The more you learn!

Posted by: Floyd of Rosedale at January 02, 2019 02:45 PM (ICaYg)

520 nood Rombley

Posted by: eleven at January 02, 2019 02:45 PM (NLLmE)

521 "Dentists used to advise their kids to become Doctors. Now Docs advise their kids to become Dentists."

A good friend of mine is a long time dental specialist. He says he would not want to be trying to go into practice now as a general dentist, and that it is getting tougher on specialists as well.

Dental offices in every strip mall offering discounted services, staffed by young grads with school loans, willing to work like animals for relatively low pay. I guess there are enough people willing to let a new dentist who has done a comparative few procedures fish around in their root canals with barbs for $1500 as opposed to paying $1800 to the guy who does nothing but root canals and has done 1000's of them successfully.

Posted by: RM at January 02, 2019 02:46 PM (U3LtS)

522 I think that's pretty much on the nose at this point. He's a wax museum exhibit. Just cue up the tape player when you get within 15 feet of it and you won't be able to differentiate it from the real thing.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at January 02, 2019 02:43 PM (6eEQ+)

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That's true of every career politician. Not too many B-1 Bob Dornan's around anymore, who aren't afraid to speak their mind ...

Posted by: Kingsnake at January 02, 2019 02:46 PM (3JbJY)

523
China has one aircraft carrier, which they bought from Ukraine or one of those places and retrofitted it. It's small and wouldn't take much to send it to the bottom.
The Chinese are talking shit. Flash forward 40 years and yeah maybe they'll have a deep water navy that can cash the check.

More likely their economy tanks and internal unrest turns them inwards for a couple of decades.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 02, 2019 02:36 PM (4ErVI)

The Chinese Type55 destroyer and the Type 54 frigate are both formidable ships and thet're building them in large numbers

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at January 02, 2019 02:46 PM (TAmPV)

524
Posted by: ItstheJews at January 02, 2019 02:25 PM (qufem)

who the hell is this kadokhes

Posted by: bah at January 02, 2019 02:47 PM (zy5Ai)

525 Kingsnake: "That's true of every career politician..."

True enough and especially so at the Federal level. Some just seem to stand out as especially waxy.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at January 02, 2019 02:51 PM (6eEQ+)

526 most doctor kids now go to law school.
===========

Legal profession has changed radically since I graduated law school 20 years ago. Average wage for lawyers continues to steadily climb, but unbeknownst to most civilians is that that there are two humps in the wage distribution for lawyers. One hump in the low-wage side, and another hump on the high-wage side. Thus, on average, lawyers are either earning a relatively low wage that does not suffice to effectively pay-off debt to improve lifestyle, or a really high wage. There aren't a lot of lawyers that earn income in the middle range.

+ Legal profession is changing (at least on the transactional law side). Big firm practice is in decline because technology is finally leveling the playing field coupled with business clients that no longer want to pay $25,000 for a contract negotiation that should cost $5,000. Lawyers are now competing on efficiency, and that is changing things away from hourly billing to fixed fee billing, and away from Partner + 2-3 associates + 1 paralegal + 2-3 secretaries working on a transaction to 1 "partner" level attorney doing all the work in less time for lower cost to client.

Equals: Even as more lawyers graduate each year, demand for more lawyers is decreasing, further reducing legal salaries. Getting more competitive as between lawyers. NOT the go-to profession it once was, given the ever-rising cost (and debt load) required to graduate from law school.

(I've been closing transactions for 20 years, and now work exclusively for 3 Fortune 500 companies you've heard of...., but do so as part of a team of only 15 lawyers, we don't have an office, and there is no such things as a "partner" or "associate". I'm lucky to be on the high end of the income distribution curve.)

Posted by: RichardWindsor at January 02, 2019 02:57 PM (db5dt)

527 it's alleged Russia is developing hypersonic missiles ... possibly on tech Hillary granted them in her generosity (pay to play) in opening our Silicon Valley tech to help build their Skolkovo Valley tech. (which may well have passed on military tech, despite warnings) ..

because ... of course she would, it is her stock in trade (see Chinagate and multiple warhead tech, or the Chinese that walked out the door with our top tech on hard drives under Billy Bob ... sheesh)

Posted by: illiniwek at January 02, 2019 02:58 PM (Cus5s)

528 Hey Mittens - How about STFU

Posted by: Skip at January 02, 2019 03:06 PM (/rm4P)

529 "394
Immigrant doctors and engineers are welcome. Fruit pickers, fry cooks, and landscapers can stay in their own countries.

Posted by: Ironwood at January 02, 2019 02:18 PM (3T/nT)

Are they though?

You take on $300,000 in debt to go to college, medical school and
survive your residency. You graduate only to find out that you're now
competing against very nice people from India who got a medical degree
for almost free, allegedly with the same rigorous standards (despite
India being one of the most corrupt countries on the planet), and they
can absolutely afford to work for much cheaper than you can.

Same is true in the technology world and many other STEM industries now.

how is that fair to the American kid?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 02, 2019 02:22 PM (GBteo)"
...
You are spot on with this. Those who have not experienced living in parts of the US with *large* fractions of legal immigrants from totally dysfunctional cultures really don't understand how big of a deal this is.
Basically, some cultures - just about everything they touches turns to shit. There are some really cool individuals and families that you'd be very glad to have as fellow Americans and neighbors, but bring in any 100k "professionals", and you start getting third world nonsense. It doesn't matter that the second generation turns out OK after what the first does to an area in those numbers.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at January 02, 2019 03:07 PM (67XdO)

530 Love PDT's tweet regarding Mitt. Basically sighing in disappointment and telling him to be a team player. Also asked if he was going to be "Flake"?

Posted by: Tuna at January 02, 2019 03:12 PM (Phln5)

531 Will Romney have his pussy hat on while being sworn in?

He is a sniveling coward begging the MSM for good press.....what a whore.

Posted by: Pam at January 02, 2019 03:22 PM (qRq6C)

532 They did the same with Pat Buchanan as well, that he was a Neo Nazi, etc.

Posted by: Power Glove at January 02, 2019 03:33 PM (Y5EJB)

533 If Mitt Romney had opposed DACA when Obama announced it during the campaign, he would have been elected President. Instead, he abanadoned his opposition to amnesty as we all knew he would.

Posted by: MikeN at January 02, 2019 04:27 PM (o/eHL)

534 Every one of these jerks lives in an exclusive enclave that is 90+% white, but they call us racists. They send their kids to private schools- their kids don't have to deal with a public school full of disease-ridden non-English speaking 3rd world refugees getting free breakfast and lunch. Their yard and garden service, maid service, and general handyman needs are all provided by new arrivals (mostly illegal) who will never earn a decent wage because of all the other new arrivals (mostly illegal) that show up every year. You think any of these immigrants will ever care about George Washington or Abraham Lincoln? Hell no!

Posted by: tjk at January 02, 2019 05:42 PM (2Lcqa)

535 Mitt the moron, the Bushes, the whole lot of them can kiss my a**! We supported them, voted for them, and wondered why they never fought back? We were told that they had "high character" and were above that. Well, no... it was because they never believed in anything in the first place! Just a con job!

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536 Democrats are shutting down the government to prevent $3.7 billion funding for a border security wall they insist will not work.
If they really believed a border security wall wouldn't work they wouldn't take the drastic measure of shutting down government to prevent the rounding error funding of it.

They shut down government to prevent funding the border security wall precisely because they know it will work.

Posted by: Mongo at January 02, 2019 06:54 PM (BD7Qt)

537 >>>Words like "genocide" have taken on an importance and extended meaning far beyond their dictionary definition and it is dangerous and muddies the waters to use them to describe events from eons ago. In fact because you used that word, I don't even understand what your original point was. And that is the danger
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The dictionary definition of a word is the definition. Special is not valid because the left will redefine everything to specially suit their evil will - like they have with racism (~~prejudice plus power~~ whitey said it!) or discrimination (not favoring leftists!), or anti-Semitism (leave muh Soros alone!), or islamaphobia (Not a Muslim!) ect.

The original use of genocide was to mildly mock it's attached quote, re-quoted below, due to its over simplification

125 I don't know about biblical arguments.

The Old Testament is basically the Jews coming in and kicking ass and taking stuff.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 02, 2019 01:46 PM (xfb67)

And I think we both agree that there is a lot more to the old testament than just Exodus, the arrival in the promised land along with the holy wars and sometimes genocides of the enemies of the people of Israel in covenant with God.

There's, Solomon, Nebuchadnezzar, The splitting of Israel between Rehoboam and Jeroboam, Esther, The building and destruction of the Temple, ect. There's so much more going on.

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538 This agrees with what I've thought. Open borders = cheap labor = big profits. Notice that all the Country Republicans types in California are now Democrats - or are strangely uninterested that D's have an absolute lock on every office.

Goldberg, Erickson, Kristol, etc. would be happy if the whole USA was governed Like California.

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