Saturday Overnight Open Thread (1/5/19)

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Happy Saturday!


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The Saturday Night Joke

Passengers on a small plane are waiting for the flight to leave. They're getting a little impatient, but the airport staff assures them the pilots will be there soon, and then the flight can take off.

Finally the entrance opens, and two men dressed in Pilots' uniforms walk up the aisle. Both are wearing dark glasses, one is using a guide dog, and the other is tapping his way along the aisle with a white cane.

Nervous laughter spreads through the cabin, but the men enter the cockpit, the door closes, and the engines start up. The passengers begin glancing nervously around, searching for some sign that this is just a little practical joke. None is forthcoming.

The plane moves faster and faster down the runway, and the people sitting in the window seats realize they're headed straight for the water at the edge of the airport territory. As it begins to look as though the plane will plow into the water, panicked screams fill the cabin.

At that moment, the plane lifts smoothly into the air. The passengers relax and laugh a little sheepishly, and soon all retreat into their magazines, secure in the knowledge that the plane really is in good hands.

Meanwhile, in the cockpit, the pilot turns to the copilot and says, "You know, Jim one of these days, they're gonna scream too late and we're all gonna die." H/T Legally Sufficient

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Be all that can you be! Hey Misfits, please join us.

The British Army has come under fire for its latest recruitment drive targeting young people with posters calling on “snowflakes, selfie addicts, class clowns, phone zombies, and me, me, millennials” to join the military.

The campaign is a bid to attract young people to join the UK forces by claiming the army is looking for special skills in order to convince young people that their snowflake attitudes, obsession with their phones, and passion for video games make them right for a career in combat.

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Long time, no see. Good to see you guys stopped by The ONT tonight.

If you’re a freshman this year amidst the hustle and bustle of starting college, moving in and figuring out your new routine and lifestyle, orientation leaders at Colorado State University introduced you to an important aspect of CSU’s culture: inclusive language.

Inclusive language includes every identity, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, etc. During orientation, we were introduced to gender pronouns such as “they/them/theirs.” This is something to be excited about, and most of us actively respect people’s gender pronouns, but as the semester continues, it has become obvious that inclusive language extends way beyond gender pronouns.


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Musicians banned from countries. Using extracts from the Quran mixed with heavy metal music is never going to end well.

Musicians and bands touring the globe to play their music to the far reaches of the world has become a staple of the music industry. Just listening to music is one thing, but there is something quite exhilarating about seeing your favorite acts perform in the flesh.

However, musicians and bands touring the world, it seems, is just as much a privilege for the performers as it is for the listeners. Despite the far-reaching tours of many music acts, there are circumstances in which some countries have just flat-out refused to let them play, regardless of their popularity. Criminal offenses, political reasons, and the nonsensical: Here are ten stories behind musicians and bands being banned from playing in certain countries.


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The ONT Musical Interlude



Janurary 5, 2004, Kinks singer Ray Davies was shot in the leg while on holiday in New Orleans. The 59-year-old singer-songwriter was shot when running after two men who stole his girlfriend's purse at gunpoint. Davies was admitted to the Medical Centre of Louisiana but his injuries were not considered serious. New Orleans police said one person had been arrested, and police were still searching for the second. via thisdayinmusic.com



January 5, 1998, American singer, producer, and politician Sonny Bono was killed in a skiing accident at a resort near Lake Tahoe, aged 62. Bono who was one half on Sonny and Cher scored the 1965 UK & US No.1 single 'I Got You Babe' and had become a US Congressman. The United States Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act of 1998, which extended the term of copyright by 20 years, was named in honor of Bono when it was passed by Congress nine months after his death. via thisdayinmusic.com


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When 'The Man' attempted to keep Mats Järlström down. He fought back and won.

A federal district court has ruled that the state of Oregon illegally infringed on a man’s First Amendment rights for fining him $500 because he wrote “I am an engineer” in a 2014 email to the state’s Engineering Board. The court ruled that the provision in the law he broke is unconstitutional, which opens the door for people in the state to legally call themselves “engineers.”

This dystopian saga dates back to 2013, when Mats Järlström's wife, while driving, was caught by a red light camera near their home in Beaverton, Oregon. Rather than pay the red light camera fine, Järlström, an electrical engineer, spent months researching the specifics of yellow light timing and red light cameras, and learned that his wife had likely been ticketed for running a yellow light. Järlström began sharing his findings on his personal website, at conferences, and even got featured on 60 Minutes. He also wrote several emails to the Oregon Board of Engineers explaining what he had found. In the email, he noted that he was an “engineer.”


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Forty-Five Things I Learned in the Gulag.

For fifteen years the writer Varlam Shalamov was imprisoned in the Gulag for participating in “counter-revolutionary Trotskyist activities.” He endured six of those years enslaved in the gold mines of Kolyma, one of the coldest and most hostile places on earth. While he was awaiting sentencing, one of his short stories was published in a journal called Literary Contemporary. He was released in 1951, and from 1954 to 1973 he worked on Kolyma Stories, a masterpiece of Soviet dissident writing that has been newly translated into English and published by New York Review Books Classics this week. Shalamov claimed not to have learned anything in Kolyma, except how to wheel a loaded barrow. But one of his fragmentary writings, dated 1961, tells us more.

1. The extreme fragility of human culture, civilization. A man becomes a beast in three weeks, given heavy labor, cold, hunger, and beatings.

2. The main means for depraving the soul is the cold. Presumably in Central Asian camps people held out longer, for it was warmer there.

3. I realized that friendship, comradeship, would never arise in really difficult, life-threatening conditions. Friendship arises in difficult but bearable conditions (in the hospital, but not at the pit face).

4. I realized that the feeling a man preserves longest is anger. There is only enough flesh on a hungry man for anger: everything else leaves him indifferent.


The nice thing about modern day television, you can change the damn channel.

"Watching a hallmark movie is like taking half a benzo in an Ikea showroom in the middle of Stockholm," ​writes Toronto-based culture writer ​Soraya Roberts in an article for The Walrus that resurfaced this season titled "The Unwatchable Whiteness of Holiday Movies." Her critique of the saccharine TV-movies, which have enjoyed ​a substantial growth in viewership since President Donald Trump took office, is that they represent a very narrow subset of American ​culture: Suburban, middle-class whites. Or as Roberts put it, "interchangeable, white-as-snow narratives."

Roberts takes issue with the ​"feel-good" channel pandering to a particular -- i.e., conservative -- perspective on wholesomeness. "A sanctuary for religious conservatives," she writes.


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Cute. Explosive and tonight's Genius Award Winner.

Go ahead and click, you know you want to.


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Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by His & Hers Jewelry.

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Notice: Posted with permission by the Ace Media Empire and AceCorp, LLC. Saturday night's alright for ONTing.

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1 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has dropped a new music video... https://youtu.be/39OulBG4Opk

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 05, 2019 09:37 PM (VHlrv)

2 Yer kidding. 1st?

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 05, 2019 09:37 PM (VHlrv)

3 First

Posted by: Darles Chickens at January 05, 2019 09:37 PM (KrEJx)

4 Not a fan of black nail polish. Looks like you're going bad. I mean literally rotting.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at January 05, 2019 09:37 PM (zmIJL)

5 Ach, nipped at the wire!

Posted by: Darles Chickens at January 05, 2019 09:38 PM (KrEJx)

6 looks like I got willowed.

I suggested that the "Dredd" movie was a chick flick. Maybe it should have been marketed as such.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 05, 2019 09:39 PM (ykYG2)

7 Good evening, fellow Morons!

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 05, 2019 09:39 PM (PkVlr)

8 Having spent many a long year in academia, I can say with certainty, *no one* is excited about learning new pronouns and other "inclusive language." The leftards might believe, and argue with conviction, that it is necessary, but no one actually enjoys this.

Except maybe administrators. I've become convinced those people are not 100% human.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 05, 2019 09:40 PM (Vgw1E)

9 Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by His & Hers Jewelry.

Aww. I wonder if either of those is the one I did quality-assurance on.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 05, 2019 09:40 PM (ykYG2)

10 Joke! I demand a Joke! A Saturd... oh, there it is. Never mind. Off to pursue and peruse and perturb content.

Posted by: mindful webworker - contented content is happy content at January 05, 2019 09:40 PM (HC9Bs)

11 Hello. Hope everyone had a nice Saturday.

I got a mani/pedi and I feel spoiled.

Posted by: ALH at January 05, 2019 09:41 PM (/Z/Su)

12 Evening all.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 05, 2019 09:42 PM (0tfLf)

13 WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE

hahhhahahahaha!

Posted by: mindful webworker - I don't get it at January 05, 2019 09:42 PM (HC9Bs)

14 "Using extracts from the Quran mixed with heavy metal music is never going to end well."

Classical Arabic poetry mixed with heavy metal on the other hand . . .

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 05, 2019 09:42 PM (ykYG2)

15 Evening Horde!
I honestly don't think I could tolerate college these days. Surer than hell, I'd trigger someone and then would verbally unload on the little darling.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 05, 2019 09:43 PM (9rIkM)

16 Our inclusiveness training included a few of the new pronouns, but no clue on how to pronounce them. (The training was online in written form.)

Posted by: Emmie at January 05, 2019 09:44 PM (4HMW8)

17 calling on "snowflakes, selfie addicts, class clowns, phone zombies, and me, me, millennials" to join the military

Can we bring this to the USA Marines?

Because, I know some young boys who didn't make the cut, but boy did they learn something.

Alas, too few shape up; most ship out.

Posted by: mindful webworker - what about the soyboys? at January 05, 2019 09:44 PM (HC9Bs)

18 BTH, the monitor thingies made me think of you.

Posted by: Emmie at January 05, 2019 09:45 PM (4HMW8)

19 Hmmmm... 9:45 Eastern. It's past my bedtime!

Posted by: Weasel - Register by Feb 1st or there will be Trouble at January 05, 2019 09:45 PM (MVjcR)

20 Shouldn't that drink be coffee?

Posted by: rickl at January 05, 2019 09:47 PM (sdi6R)

21 I honestly don't think I could tolerate college these days. Surer than hell, I'd trigger someone and then would verbally unload on the little darling.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 05, 2019 09:43 PM (9rIkM)

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I guess it depends on where you go. My daughter just graduated Alabama and had none of this shoved at her. It was there if you went looking for it, but it was not in your face 24/7.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 09:48 PM (ffYR/)

22 Who still hasn't put up their Christmas decorations?

Slackers!

Posted by: ALH at January 05, 2019 09:48 PM (/Z/Su)

23
The Kinks!

Posted by: otho at January 05, 2019 09:48 PM (LkFnL)

24 First Saturday of the New Year!

I changed the air filter on the heater.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at January 05, 2019 09:49 PM (0bu2O)

25 I took a couple of classes at CSU-Pueblo this past year. I am pleased to report that all of my classmates were sane and my profs were within normal parameters of eccentric.

These were math classes, though. It would be difficult to manage Abstract Algebra and Real Analysis if you were preoccupied with snowflakey issues.

Posted by: Emmie at January 05, 2019 09:49 PM (4HMW8)

26 The corner where the Christmas tree stood looks empty.

Posted by: Weasel - Register by Feb 1st or there will be Trouble! at January 05, 2019 09:50 PM (MVjcR)

27 24 First Saturday of the New Year!

I changed the air filter on the heater.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at January 05, 2019 09:49 PM (0bu2O)

I put out the Valentine's Decorations.

Posted by: ALH at January 05, 2019 09:50 PM (/Z/Su)

28 So the SC congressman got pilloried for correctly calling Bam a liar but these witches of leftism can use mf on Trump. Got it. Buy ammo folks.

Posted by: rammajamma at January 05, 2019 09:51 PM (gRhLi)

29 I managed 280 days or something like that before HR noticed that I'd neglected to take their 'harassment' training. It didn't have the pronoun crap but then, it was all automated anyway.

So I just skipped the vids and answered the questions in the most leftwing and Ostdeutscher way I could think of. Inappropriate comment? HR! Questionable clothing? HR! Never mind the chain of command, HR is G-d.

Because that's how this company rolls. When my coworkers hear about stuff they don't like, they go to HR.

(And yeah, I passed. F**k me. No, don't. That's another HR situation)

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 05, 2019 09:51 PM (ykYG2)

30 27 24 First Saturday of the New Year!

I changed the air filter on the heater.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at January 05, 2019 09:49 PM (0bu2O)

I put out the Valentine's Decorations.
Posted by: ALH at January 05, 2019 09:50 PM (/Z/Su)

Cute
Weird
But cute

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2019 09:51 PM (aA3+G)

31 I unplugged the lights on the two pine trees outside my window yesterday. Someday I will take them down and put them away. Maybe.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 09:51 PM (md3fh)

32 So sorry for your loss, Jewells

Posted by: BeckoningChasm's PayPal at January 05, 2019 09:52 PM (l9m7l)

33 WEASEL!

please wait

Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 09:52 PM (t+qrx)

34 These were math classes, though. It would be difficult to manage Abstract Algebra and Real Analysis if you were preoccupied with snowflakey issues.
Posted by: Emmie at January 05, 2019 09:49 PM (4HMW

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In my daughter's case, she was in Nursing school. They were too busy to worry about any of that crap.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 09:52 PM (ffYR/)

35 I guess it depends on where you go. My daughter just graduated Alabama and had none of this shoved at her. It was there if you went looking for it, but it was not in your face 24/7.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 09:48 PM (ffYR/)

Some schools are better than others. I've never caught a whiff of anything too SJW-y coming out of Alabama (much as I might loathe them when it comes to football). My less-than-beloved Mizzou, on the other hand--well.

As a general rule, I think the second-tier state schools are less prone to this sort of thing than either the big-name universities or the really small liberal arts schools (even the private, formerly religious ones). They usually don't have the time or the budget to waste on that sort of thing.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 05, 2019 09:52 PM (Vgw1E)

36 33 WEASEL!

please wait
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 09:52 PM (t+qrx)
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I didn't do it!

Posted by: Weasel - Register by Feb 1st or there will be Trouble! at January 05, 2019 09:53 PM (MVjcR)

37 BTH, we expect the quality of your harassment to be up to par.

Posted by: Emmie at January 05, 2019 09:53 PM (4HMW8)

38 >>>20 Shouldn't that drink be coffee?


Saturday morning coffee
Saturday night booze

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2019 09:53 PM (aA3+G)

39 Sonny Bono did OK. Half of Palm Springs is named in his memory.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 05, 2019 09:53 PM (EZebt)

40 Weasel - the email address you sent an Uzi video from for me to host back before you were doing the gun thread - is that the one you still use? Got a reply back from sister in re: raw food diet for dog, wanted to pass it on but wasn't sure if that was your address.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 09:53 PM (t+qrx)

41 lol Emmie! yeah, I don't work there no more, but I still wish I did. They did okay by me.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 05, 2019 09:53 PM (ykYG2)

42 33 WEASEL!

please wait
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 09:52 PM (t+qrx)
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And there weren't any witnesses!!

Posted by: Weasel - Register by Feb 1st or there will be Trouble! at January 05, 2019 09:53 PM (MVjcR)

43 The United States Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act of 1998, which extended the term of copyright by 20 years, was named in honor of Bono when it was passed by Congress nine months after his death.

Grr. The copyright extension laws have become utterly ridiculous. They only benefit corporations like Disney.

I think the old standard was something like the life of the creator plus 25 years. That's plenty. No reason why his grandchildren should still be making money off it.

Posted by: rickl at January 05, 2019 09:54 PM (sdi6R)

44 In my daughter's case, she was in Nursing school. They were too busy to worry about any of that crap.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 09:52 PM (ffYR/)


I teach math to nursing students. I just love them - - they take their schooling seriously.

Posted by: Emmie at January 05, 2019 09:55 PM (4HMW8)

45 This is why we need to push for more global warming. So the camps are bearable.

Posted by: t-bird at January 05, 2019 09:55 PM (X+nU7)

46 Mindspring? That one works! Or send it to the email link in my nic. Thank you!!

Posted by: Weasel - Register by Feb 1st or there will be Trouble! at January 05, 2019 09:55 PM (MVjcR)

47 Posted by: otho at January 05, 2019 09:48 PM (LkFnL)

Thumbs up or down?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2019 09:55 PM (aA3+G)

48 A related airline joke:

Passengers get on a plane at Dulles Airport for their journey. The plane leaves the gate and smoothly taxis to the runway. Stewardesses give the standard safety briefing and the plane turns onto the active runway and proceeds to take off. After an uneventful climb to altitude the seat belt signs go off, and a voice comes over the loud-speakers and says "This is your automated pilot speaking. WingNut Airlines is the first airlines to transition to fully automated flight. There are no pilots on board, but there is a fully programmed artificial intelligence based robotic pilot in command in the cockpit. So please relax and enjoy your flight, absolutely nothing can go wrong, go wrong, go wrong, go wrong..."

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 05, 2019 09:55 PM (f3oO4)

49 35 Loathe Alabama football? Are you or have you ever been a communist sir?

Posted by: rammajamma at January 05, 2019 09:55 PM (gRhLi)

50 Saturday morning coffee
Saturday night booze

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2019 09:53 PM (aA3+G

Moonshine?

Posted by: ALH at January 05, 2019 09:56 PM (/Z/Su)

51 Copyright is a strange thing. If you build a house and pass it on to your kin, should it be taken away from them by a certain date? (Yes, I know, we never own our property because of taxes.) One could make the argument that anything you create remains the property of you and your estate forever. Obama would disagree, telling you that you didn't make that.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 09:57 PM (md3fh)

52 Reagan Airport is quite literally the Airport That Does Not Speak Its Name. "DCA", is how they market themselves. ew... a Republican...

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 05, 2019 09:57 PM (ykYG2)

53 Posted by: ALH at January 05, 2019 09:56 PM (/Z/Su)

Dark roasted? Sure

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2019 09:57 PM (aA3+G)

54 35 Loathe Alabama football? Are you or have you ever been a communist sir?
Posted by: rammajamma at January 05, 2019 09:55 PM (gRhLi)


Nyet.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 05, 2019 09:57 PM (Vgw1E)

55 Tried this earlier, but got willowed once, and on the second try a more important subject came up, but I still want to know.

How does one get to play ESO (buy it, maybe, but from who?) and join the Horde guild? My ISP now has an unlimited data plan, and I'd love to get in on it. Am currently on my 20th Skyrim play-through, this time with lots of mods, but the vanilla sections are getting kind of repetitive.

Posted by: empire1 at January 05, 2019 09:58 PM (1mtzZ)

56 ''So the SC congressman got pilloried for correctly calling Bam a liar''

My son's congressman.

Posted by: Tuna at January 05, 2019 10:00 PM (jm1YL)

57 28. The passion for power, to be able to kill at will, is great--from top bosses to the rank-and-file guards

-Shalamov

Posted by: t-bird at January 05, 2019 10:00 PM (X+nU7)

58 Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 09:53 PM (t+qrx)

MisHum, it sounds like we need a sub-thread on the next pet thread for canine dietary recommendations!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 05, 2019 10:00 PM (f3oO4)

59 Nyet.
Posted by: Dr. T


What do you mean, not yet?

Posted by: t-bird at January 05, 2019 10:01 PM (X+nU7)

60 An army of overweight, selfie taking, smartphone addicted snowflakes with clown tattoos and green hair.


Yeah, that's going to work out really well for the UK.

/btw, have the gays in the UK figured out what's going to happen to them when their new islamic overlords start flexing their muscles?

Posted by: shibumi at January 05, 2019 10:01 PM (OXL6p)

61 Posted by: t-bird at January 05, 2019 10:00 PM (X+nU7)

Absolute power is the most addictive substance known in the universe!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 05, 2019 10:02 PM (f3oO4)

62 When 'The Man' attempted to keep Mats Järlström down. He fought back and won.

Oh, another case in which the sniffy GOPe crowd had some penchaaaaant comments, but never offered to intervene or help in the slightest.

It would take a Batman Sherlock swivel chair Hawking to figure this one out.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 05, 2019 10:02 PM (ZejZP)

63 Weasel - email sent.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 10:02 PM (t+qrx)

64 Hey everybody.

Dinner tonight...

https://tinyurl.com/y9dwwbze

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 05, 2019 10:03 PM (miE9U)

65 Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 05, 2019 10:00 PM (f3oO4)

We could do that

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2019 10:03 PM (aA3+G)

66 This got willowed on two threads:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9mu7ou7

Note that these are not Young Earth Christians who believe that Creation occurred 6000 years ago, but utter and complete imbeciles who think Earth just celebrated its 2019th birthday.

Posted by: rickl at January 05, 2019 10:03 PM (sdi6R)

67 empire1 , well now you've made this a Game Thread.

Jim Sterling looked at Ashen and thought it was pretty decent. youtu.be/ioZn_1cFsXs

For my part, I stuck ol' Diablo on my PC and laptop (I never played it when it came out), and was playing that for a bit. Strangely addictive. I credit the soundtrack, which is beautiful.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 05, 2019 10:03 PM (ykYG2)

68 I teach math to nursing students. I just love them - - they take their schooling seriously.

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A friend of mine teaches nursing at a .... well, let's just call it a "C" school. Her students can't pass math, and when she flunks them, her betters at the university have a holy sh*tfit.

However... SHE will not budge since wrong math can kill.

Posted by: shibumi at January 05, 2019 10:03 PM (OXL6p)

69 Funny joke!
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I suggested that the "Dredd" movie was a chick flick. Maybe it should have been marketed as such.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 05, 2019 09:39 PM (ykYG2)
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It needs to be marketed as a Lifetime holiday movie.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2019 10:03 PM (kQs4Y)

70 GO CLEMSON!!

I'm Hokie fan and it pains me to root for them but rooting for them I am. Alas, it won't matter. 'Bama is going to win.

Finland is up on USA 2-0 in the World Jr Hockey Championship.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 05, 2019 10:03 PM (W/XGT)

71 Look, I spent three years at Ole Miss before transferring to Mizzou and I had friends from Auburn and Georgia. If you're SEC and not from Alabama, you hate Alabama. That's just the way it is.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 05, 2019 10:03 PM (Vgw1E)

72 I put out the Valentine's Decorations.

You skipped MLK day?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at January 05, 2019 10:04 PM (0bu2O)

73 So sorry for your loss, Jewells


Posted by: BeckoningChasm's Paypal

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Did Jewell's mom pass?

Posted by: Tonypete at January 05, 2019 10:04 PM (9rIkM)

74 Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by His & Hers Jewelry.

Those parole officers have some odd senses of humor.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 05, 2019 10:04 PM (ZejZP)

75 Tonypete, yes.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 05, 2019 10:04 PM (miE9U)

76 Posted by: otho at January 05, 2019 09:48 PM (LkFnL)

Thumbs up or down?


Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2019 09:55 PM


Absolutely 2 thumbs up.

Posted by: otho at January 05, 2019 10:05 PM (LkFnL)

77 think Earth just celebrated its 2019th birthday.

Well, 2025th maybe, give or take. If you take Saint Matthew at his word that our Lord was born under Herod (d. 4 BC).

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 05, 2019 10:05 PM (ykYG2)

78 A friend of mine teaches nursing at a .... well, let's just call it a "C" school.
Posted by: shibumi at January 05, 2019 10:03 PM (OXL6p)


Hey, I went to Sonar "C" school...

Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 10:05 PM (t+qrx)

79 Did Jewell's mom pass?




Posted by: Tonypete at January 05, 2019 10:04 PM (9rIkM)


Yes, about 5 hours ago.

{{{Jewells}}}

Posted by: Vendette at January 05, 2019 10:05 PM (4MipL)

80 Tonypete, yes,

Posted by: BeckoningChasm's PayPal at January 05, 2019 10:05 PM (l9m7l)

81 Look, I spent three years at Ole Miss before transferring to Mizzou and I had friends from Auburn and Georgia. If you're SEC and not from Alabama, you hate Alabama. That's just the way it is.
Posted by: Dr. T at January 05, 2019 10:03 PM (Vgw1E)

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They are an easy team to hate. All that winning gets boring.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 10:05 PM (ffYR/)

82 Hi shibumi!

Which 'C' school would that be? Al Gore U?

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 05, 2019 10:06 PM (miE9U)

83 > I put out the Valentine's Decorations.

You skipped MLK day?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at January 05, 2019 10:04 PM (0bu2O)


Is that like skipping leg day?

Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 10:06 PM (t+qrx)

84

Website Selling Genital Prosthetics For "Transgender" Children

https://tinyurl.com/ycc5fwqr

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 05, 2019 10:06 PM (aKsyK)

85 I need that side table.

Posted by: Flavrt at January 05, 2019 10:06 PM (MLejI)

86 Posted by: otho at January 05, 2019 10:05 PM (LkFnL)

Good to hear

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2019 10:06 PM (aA3+G)

87 Good Evening

Posted by: wing at January 05, 2019 10:06 PM (JFzNN)

88 Heh, I went to J school. At Mizzou. When it was sane.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 10:06 PM (md3fh)

89 Oh, no.

Prayers and best wishes to Jewells and her family.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 05, 2019 10:06 PM (Vgw1E)

90 One ping only hogmartin.

Posted by: Captain Ramius at January 05, 2019 10:06 PM (9rIkM)

91 USA tied it up.

2-2

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 05, 2019 10:07 PM (W/XGT)

92 Dark roasted? Sure
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2019 09:57 PM (aA3+G)

I just buy the Walmart brand. If you put enough cream in your coffee it doesn't matter what brand.

Cream and Splenda turn coffee into the nectar of the gods.

Posted by: ALH at January 05, 2019 10:07 PM (/Z/Su)

93 Reagan Airport is quite literally the Airport That Does Not Speak Its Name. "DCA", is how they market themselves. ew... a Republican...
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 05, 2019 09:57 PM (ykYG2)
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Boho, if it makes you feel better, I think that most people in the DC area don't know that the real name for BWI airport (Baltimore-Washington) is Thurgood Marshall airport. The only person I ever heard refer to it that way was a pilot friend of ours because sometimes he'd have to fly out of there.

He also called National by its proper name, Ronald Reagan.

Posted by: bluebell ~ sign up by Feb. 1st! at January 05, 2019 10:07 PM (0S4Yk)

94 Is that like skipping leg day?

If you like dark chocolate, yes.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at January 05, 2019 10:07 PM (0bu2O)

95 What happened to Jewell's?

Posted by: ALH at January 05, 2019 10:07 PM (/Z/Su)

96 ALH, I just discovered the joy of half-and-half.
Along with margarine, it makes a great 'gravy' for your scrambled eggs. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 05, 2019 10:07 PM (miE9U)

97 ALH, her mother passed.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 05, 2019 10:08 PM (miE9U)

98 oh man, one of the commenters who thinks the earth is 2019 years old is "Sami Tamimi". An Arab.

Dude. Your imam is smarter than you, and that is sad.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 05, 2019 10:08 PM (ykYG2)

99 Ugh - prayers to Jewell's and her family.

Posted by: Captain Ramius at January 05, 2019 10:08 PM (9rIkM)

100
Hey, I went to Sonar "C" school...
Posted by: hogmartin


I went to Waukesha Diesel engine "C" school after Engineman "A" school.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 05, 2019 10:08 PM (aKsyK)

101 Posted by: qdpsteve at January 05, 2019 10:07 PM (miE9U)

It makes really good mashed potatoes, too.

Posted by: ALH at January 05, 2019 10:08 PM (/Z/Su)

102 Off Russian Navy Officer sock

Posted by: Tonypete at January 05, 2019 10:08 PM (9rIkM)

103 Posted by: ALH at January 05, 2019 10:07 PM (/Z/Su)

YUCK

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2019 10:09 PM (aA3+G)

104 Is it terrible of me, that in the midst of all this death--

Posted by: BeckoningChasm's PayPal at January 05, 2019 10:10 PM (l9m7l)

105 I'm sorry for your loss, Jewells. Hugs.

Posted by: ALH at January 05, 2019 10:10 PM (/Z/Su)

106 A few years ago, a number of Americans with Ph.Ds from Stanford, MIT etc and stellar records both as researchers and research managers were recruited to head up research institutes in Germany. In particular, the Germans wanted Amerikaners who knew how to bring research into successful commercialization.

Within a few months all were under criminal investigation because their various institutes had proudly welcomed Dr. Smartguy, and used the honorific "Dr." on their business cards, promo literature, etc.

Under German law, no one may be called "Dr." on the basis of a Ph.D. unless the degree is from a German university.

The criminal charges were finessed, but the guys all quietly returned to the US. German GDP hardest hit.

Posted by: Prof. Dr. Dr. Miklos Blasey-Molnar at January 05, 2019 10:10 PM (zCyNd)

107 Hog, where was your "C" school?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2019 10:10 PM (kQs4Y)

108 CSU's culture: inclusive language

FFFFFFFFFF inclusive language.

First year in college, 1970, this bumpkin from Smallville, Oklahoma, is chatting with a great guy, Bob, from Detroit. (Waves to Bob, wherever you are.)

I don't remember how it happened, but the N word came up. NWORD NWORD NWORD NWORD - so obscene, we cannot say it, even in the confines of Ace of SPADES.

I have a whole routine, stand-up "comedy," about the NWord as I grew up with it. Great stories, but they all involve saying NWORD. And if you can't say NWORD, it all sounds stupid. I was probably telling one of those stories.

Anyway, Detroit Bob said to me, "Say it again." I obliviously said, "What?" Bob said, "That word." "What word?" "Ni__er." (I can type that because Bob said it and he was black. Or will Pixy let me?) I said, "NWORD." Oh. I got it. A few more times, he said, say it again, and I did, as flat and atonally as I could. He smoldered.

Bob snarled, "Sure sounds hateful when you say it."

Later, Bob would tell me how he had me pegged for a hateful Southren bigot. Blacks I grew up with were mostly elderly domestic workers, but they were the finest Christian folks, some of them like family. While de white folk be philandering, drinkin', and carryin' on upstairs. This was not lost on me.

But I could appreciate Bob's stories: like in the '68(?) Detroit riots, his neighborhood burned to the ground, His family's two-family residence wasn't torched, because there was a white family on the ground floor, and a black family on the top. Geez!

When Bob told me, if I saw you during a race riot, even if I knew it was you, I'd only see you as a white guy. I could appreciate that, in a way, which is why I try to stay as far away from race riots as I can, as a rule.

Anyway, my hilarious historic ŋ!ᵍᵍ3Ʀ stories will have to wait for another age.

Posted by: mindful webworker - let me tell you about the local AmerInds... at January 05, 2019 10:10 PM (HC9Bs)

109 I live just south of Reagan National. I still just call it 'National'.

Don't stone me.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 05, 2019 10:10 PM (W/XGT)

110 --I am still breathing?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm's PayPal at January 05, 2019 10:10 PM (l9m7l)

111
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2019 10:09 PM (aA3+G)

Don't knock it until you try it!

Posted by: ALH at January 05, 2019 10:11 PM (/Z/Su)

112 Hey, I went to Sonar "C" school...

Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 10:05 PM (t+qrx)

That bouy was turnin' his life around...

Posted by: Miklos, unpinged at January 05, 2019 10:12 PM (zCyNd)

113 Posted by: ALH at January 05, 2019 10:11 PM (/Z/Su)

I have


YUCK

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2019 10:13 PM (aA3+G)

114 63 Weasel - email sent.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 10:02 PM (t+qrx)
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Got it, and reply on it's way! Thanks hogmartin. Appreciate it amigo.

Posted by: Weasel - Register by Feb 1st or there will be Trouble! at January 05, 2019 10:14 PM (MVjcR)

115 Heh, I went to J school. At Mizzou. When it was sane.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 10:06 PM (md3fh)

I worked with a few people who did J school at Missouri. They told me how elite it was. Several times a week.

Posted by: Miklos, Managing editors at January 05, 2019 10:14 PM (zCyNd)

116 Old friend of ours, sick a while, died on short notice, so off we went to the funeral, at a classic Episcopal church. She was a music lover, so I expected some good music, and in fact there was. Theme-and-variation airs and graces on old hymn tunes, on a decent but not overwhelming pipe organ and a Steinway. Then, a hymn sung by congregation, to a tune by Sibelius. I'd have gone with the brass choir, but it was fine. And then another hymn, just a little later -- to a tune from the English folk song suite by "Rafe" Vaughan Williams. I'm a fan. One tear may have escaped one's eye.

And then came the family options. She'd been a nurse, a graduate of Ohio State. And a lifelong Ohio State booster. So there they all stood, arm in arm, swaying in the pews, singing the Ohio State alma mater, complete with the "O" over the head at the end.
I swear to God, if I'd known they were going to do that, I'd have brought my frickin tuba and dotted the "I."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 05, 2019 10:14 PM (8ZmvG)

117 Good to hear


Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2019 10:06 PM


Major influence on me musically. I maintain, that famous as they are... they are still under rated.

Posted by: otho at January 05, 2019 10:14 PM (LkFnL)

118 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2019 10:13 PM (aA3+G)


You're cute.

Posted by: ALH at January 05, 2019 10:14 PM (/Z/Su)

119 Boho, if it makes you feel better, I think that most
people in the DC area don't know that the real name for BWI airport
(Baltimore-Washington) is Thurgood Marshall airport. The only person I
ever heard refer to it that way was a pilot friend of ours because
sometimes he'd have to fly out of there.



He also called National by its proper name, Ronald Reagan.





Posted by: bluebell ~ sign up by Feb. 1st! at January 05, 2019 10:07 PM (0S4Yk)

Sometimes you hear BWI referred to verbally as BeeWee, as well as BWI Marshall. The airport's original name was Friendship, because the land was bought from a Methodist church by that name.
As for DCA, I've heard National, Reagan, and Reagan National.

Posted by: Vendette at January 05, 2019 10:14 PM (4MipL)

120 Hog, where was your "C" school?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2019 10:10 PM (kQs4Y)


OK, well technically I was lying. Engaging in perfidy on account of I couldn't let a joke go by like that. I just went to "A" school and then to the fleet. I think there's a "C" school for BSY-1 and BQQ-10 maintenance and that's it.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 10:15 PM (t+qrx)

121 Well, I had a bunch of other games that I tried, wanting something new, but after the wide-open worlds of Oblivion and especially Skyrim, being restricted to D&D-type classes or straight-line stories was boring, so I gave those away. And since I now have an unlimited data plan for the computers, I'd really like to give ESO a try.

I just don't know where to get it, or how to join the Horde's guild.

Posted by: empire1 at January 05, 2019 10:15 PM (1mtzZ)

122 A whole section of my dictionary is full of n-words. And none of them are the NWORD. Strange but true.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 10:15 PM (md3fh)

123 England died on July 1, 1916 on the Somme.

Posted by: Sharkman at January 05, 2019 10:16 PM (2eKoI)

124 Wow.

Excellent article by Tucker Carlson about Romney and his ilk:

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-

mitt-romney-supports-the-status-quo-but-for-

everyone-else-its-infuriating

(remove extra spaces)



He's right on target.

Romney and his fellow passengers are just passing through as they strip our wealth, dignity, and freedom away from us.

And Romney got rich doing that.

Well...good for him. But, we sure as hell don't need him running anything.

He needs to be drummed out of our party.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 05, 2019 10:16 PM (CRRq9)

125 Does that lady's tattoo in the bottom picture say Beautiful?

Posted by: ALH at January 05, 2019 10:16 PM (/Z/Su)

126 BWI should be named Fwenship, to keep that W in there.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 05, 2019 10:16 PM (ykYG2)

127 51 Copyright is a strange thing. If you build a house and pass it on to your kin, should it be taken away from them by a certain date? (Yes, I know, we never own our property because of taxes.) One could make the argument that anything you create remains the property of you and your estate forever. Obama would disagree, telling you that you didn't make that.
Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 09:57 PM (md3fh)


Fair enough. I'll have to think about that. It doesn't seem like the same thing, though.

A house is just a building to live in. Sure, if property values go up, the heirs can sell it for more than it cost to build it. Nothing wrong with that.

But intellectual property enables corporations like Disney to keep making money off characters and movies well beyond anything that Walt imagined, in perpetuity.

It just seems very different to me.

Posted by: rickl at January 05, 2019 10:17 PM (sdi6R)

128 Oh, Miklos, yes we were all sooooo elite and all. Yeah. We all wore spats and top hats and smoked big cigars.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 10:17 PM (md3fh)

129 hiya

Posted by: JT at January 05, 2019 10:17 PM (SVIc4)

130 Varlam Shalamov - that's potent stuff.

Posted by: mindful webworker - likes the warmth at January 05, 2019 10:18 PM (HC9Bs)

131 My. Indolence, Jewells. Really sorry to hear of your loss.

Posted by: Weasel - Register by Feb 1st or there will be Trouble! at January 05, 2019 10:19 PM (MVjcR)

132 Nothing shows love like matching ankle monitors. Obviously a match made in the court system.

Posted by: big brother at January 05, 2019 10:19 PM (RVcmP)

133 Pocahontas is holding a rally in Iowa, and on day 2 she has already lost her voice! If 2016 showed us anything, PDT is a campaigning juggernaut and a force of nature. Pocahontas should just go home to her teepee now.

Posted by: jmel at January 05, 2019 10:19 PM (OeWgo)

134 Hey dudes! Don't worry, Super Awesome ConservaSomething Ben Shapiro sez TRUMP IS GONNA CAVE!!! But the biggest thing ever is that WOKESCOLDS are ruining everything! RUINING ALL!!!

This little turd sits in his YouTube circle and just gives up, surrenders to all every single day. "I don't think it matters because Trump is gonna cave and soon!"

Hey, dipshit, Mr Super Awesome Protector of Whatever, what are you doing to make sure Trump doesn't cave? What are you doing to make sure citizens call their representatives to tell them to stop being pieces of shit?

Yeah, Ben, you've done zero. Nothing. Zilch. Nada to advance a Pro-American cause. Nothing. Just another guy on the internet.

Fuck you Ben.

I'm done with you.

Posted by: Gigantor at January 05, 2019 10:19 PM (vV7K1)

135 I worked with a few people who did J school at Missouri. They told me how elite it was. Several times a week.
Posted by: Miklos, Managing editors at January 05, 2019 10:14 PM (zCyNd)

That is the sort of thing they do.

Though I have a hard time imagining how "elite" the J-School can be anymore. There are certain journalism classes at the campus with a capacity of 500.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 05, 2019 10:20 PM (Vgw1E)

136 Trump has nothing to lose by holding strong and everything to lose by caving. More fake news.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 10:20 PM (md3fh)

137 Oh, Miklos, yes we were all sooooo elite and all. Yeah. We all wore spats and top hats and smoked big cigars.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 10:17 PM (md3fh)

So you'll pose as model for a Moronopoly piece? Pants optional.

Posted by: Miklos, with the Bluebell's Shiv card at January 05, 2019 10:20 PM (zCyNd)

138 Those two in the bottom picture must be really great friends.

A good friend will bail you out of jail.

A great friend will be in the cell next to you saying Damn that was fun.

Posted by: ALH at January 05, 2019 10:21 PM (/Z/Su)

139 Posted by: rickl at January 05, 2019 10:17 PM (sdi6R)

Shouldn't Dylan's kids/grandkids get to reap rewards from Bob?

I think a family farm passed down from generation to generation would be in the same category

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2019 10:21 PM (aA3+G)

140 The foot tattoo really makes that last photo.

Posted by: mindful webworker - ankle monitor love at January 05, 2019 10:21 PM (HC9Bs)

141 Moronopoly? I love it. Do not collect $200 and go straight to The Barrel.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 10:22 PM (md3fh)

142 Still so sorry for Jewells
Good night, folks, sleep well.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm's PayPal at January 05, 2019 10:23 PM (l9m7l)

143 I don't know that England died at the Somme - Tolkien survived it - but it certainly took a hard knock on the head from it.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 05, 2019 10:23 PM (ykYG2)

144 Good night, BeckoningChasm.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 10:24 PM (t+qrx)

145 The Soviets "meant well", i.e., they were trying to create Utopia, so you know our own Left can just ignore the 100 million who died because of "Russia's errors spreading throughout the world" (Fatima reference).

So the Gulag story, while sad, is just sour grapes.

/sarc off

Posted by: Sharkman at January 05, 2019 10:24 PM (2eKoI)

146 139
Shouldn't Dylan's kids/grandkids get to reap rewards from Bob?

I think a family farm passed down from generation to generation would be in the same category
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2019 10:21 PM (aA3+G)


I think you just nailed it.

A family farm will revert to weeds and eventually forest if the kids don't keep working it.

How do they keep working and improving songs written before they were born?

Posted by: rickl at January 05, 2019 10:25 PM (sdi6R)

147 The Soviets "meant well", i.e., they were trying to create Utopia, so you know our own Left can just ignore the 100 million who died because of "Russia's errors spreading throughout the world" (Fatima reference).
Posted by: Sharkman at January 05, 2019 10:24 PM (2eKoI)


The Right People were
☐ in charge
☒ not in charge

Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 10:26 PM (t+qrx)

148 How do they keep working and improving songs written before they were born?

Hello!

Posted by: that Conan movie 2011 at January 05, 2019 10:27 PM (ykYG2)

149 So let's say you are Picasso's great grandchild and you have a picture your ancestor painted and it is worth $68.4 million dollars ... until a certain date when it becomes public domain and the copyright gestapo comes and yanks it off your wall. Is that right? And how is Mickey Mouse different from a Picasso painting?

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 10:27 PM (md3fh)

150 Posted by: Sharkman at January 05, 2019 10:24 PM (2eKoI)

As a great modern Socialist thinker once said "You can't make a perfect omelet without breaking a few eggs!"

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 05, 2019 10:28 PM (f3oO4)

151 Copyrights and patents are not in the same category as a house or farm. Intellectual property can and will be copied over time (ask the Chinese).

The Constitution recognizes intellectual property as protectable, but only for a period of time. There is an old fashioned idea that the law should not attempt to cover things it cannot effectively cover, like collecting royalties from Bob's All-Girl Tuba Quartet opening for Life Estate back in '86.

Posted by: Miklos, former IP enforcer at January 05, 2019 10:29 PM (zCyNd)

152 Finland wins the World Jr. Hockey Championship. Beat the US 3-2.

Boo.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 05, 2019 10:29 PM (W/XGT)

153 Now those Fins are going to get big heads and think they're something special. Booo. You want fins, watch Jaws. Those are fins.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 10:30 PM (md3fh)

154 Indolence = condolences. Jeez. Sorry Jewells.

Posted by: Weasel - Register by Feb 1st or there will be Trouble! at January 05, 2019 10:30 PM (MVjcR)

155 Fins are dirty rotten Scandi's, right? They cheated!! Damn Icebacks.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 05, 2019 10:31 PM (W/XGT)

156 Intellectual copyright should also be looked at, in thelarger picture, as a stepping stone, maybe. Keep in mind "liberals" do not believe in the concept of inheritance whatsoever. When someone dies, their estate (should) goes to the State. Why should children get anything?

This is how they think. This is ultimately what "privilege" is probably about.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 05, 2019 10:32 PM (/czxp)

157 Now those Fins are going to get big heads and think they're something special. Booo. You want fins, watch Jaws. Those are fins.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 10:30 PM (md3fh)

See you at the Art Thread.

Posted by: Suomi Snipers at January 05, 2019 10:32 PM (zCyNd)

158 Posted by: rickl at January 05, 2019 10:25 PM (sdi6R)

Looking at the big picture including Walt Disney, Bob D and intellectual property
I believe it is private property


Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2019 10:33 PM (aA3+G)

159 Posted by a (brainy) friend at FB:

Researchers from the University of Graz Study, found that adults who consume vegetarian diet, are less healthy (in terms of cancer, allergies, and mental health disorders), have a lower quality of life, and also require more medical treatment.

This study also concluded that vegetarians are more often ill, have cancer and heart attacks more often, and have a lower quality of living than meat-eaters.

The researchers also found that vegetarians were twice as likely to suffer for anxiety or depressions than big meat eaters (9.4% to 4.5%).


The study involved 1320 participants who were divided into 4 groups of 330 persons each. The 4 groups were:

1) Vegetarian
2) Carnivorous diet rich in fruits and vegetables
3) Carnivorous diet less rich in meat
4) Carnivorous diet rich in meat

All groups were comparable with respect to gender, age, and socio-economic status. The study also accounted for smoking and physical activity. Also the BMI was within the normal range for all four groups (22.9 - 24.9).


https://tinyurl.com/ydfc5y7c

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 05, 2019 10:33 PM (miE9U)

160 Keep in mind "liberals" do not believe in the concept of inheritance whatsoever. When someone dies, their estate (should) goes to the State. Why should children get anything?


Ignorant deplorable.

Posted by: Kennedy and Kerry Family Trusts at January 05, 2019 10:33 PM (zCyNd)

161 -
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The foot tattoo really makes that last photo.


Posted by: mindful webworker - ankle monitor love at January 05, 2019 10:21 PM

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We know this pair are classy because there is not a pair of crocs to be seen. That cannot be by accident.

Posted by: irright at January 05, 2019 10:34 PM (RVcmP)

162 I think that it is best to treat IP the same. Patents expire. Hard stop. Otherwise, everything that we purchased would be 99% royalty payments to half of the known world and lawyers would do nothing else than litigate intellectual property rights.

The reason that we protect intellectual property is so that the IP generation is incentivized. If patents didn't exist, there would be no reason to invest time and resources learning how to make something better, as competitors would all be able to reap the same benefits as you despite not investing in the research.

Disney has invested money in building the Mickey Mouse brand, to be certain, but there is no reason that some 3rd party should reap the benefits of other people's art hundreds of years after the creator's death. Doubly true since the rights were extended after the creators already died and their estates sold the rights to corporations. Further extending protection is simply enabling rent-seeking by those parties.

Posted by: In Exile at January 05, 2019 10:34 PM (SDmIR)

163 I agree Puddlegum

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at January 05, 2019 10:34 PM (c1nDO)

164 Finland wins the World Jr. Hockey Championship. Beat the US 3-2.



Boo.


Posted by: Puddleglum at January 05, 2019 10:29 PM (W/XGT)

3rd time in 6 years.
Have to hand it to them: They were 46 seconds away from losing 1-0 in the quarterfinals against Canada.

Posted by: Vendette at January 05, 2019 10:35 PM (4MipL)

165 Intellectual copyright should also be looked at, in thelarger picture, as a stepping stone, maybe. Keep in mind "liberals" do not believe in the concept of inheritance whatsoever. When someone dies, their estate (should) goes to the State. Why should children get anything?

This is how they think. This is ultimately what "privilege" is probably about.
Posted by: Common Tater at January 05, 2019 10:32 PM (/czxp)

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I have watched some Leftards try to explain their stance on inheritance and taxes. It is insanity, and to your point, assumes that all belongs to Gov and they alone decide what you are allowed to keep.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 10:36 PM (ffYR/)

166 Keep in mind "liberals" do not believe in the concept of inheritance whatsoever. When someone dies, their estate (should) goes to the State.

Interestingly, the apartheid government of South Africa did that to blacks who had acquired some wealth - inheritance was not allowed for blacks, and all wealth went to the state.

Shows the mindset.

Posted by: The ARC of History at January 05, 2019 10:37 PM (I2/tG)

167 149 So let's say you are Picasso's great grandchild and you have a picture your ancestor painted and it is worth $68.4 million dollars ... until a certain date when it becomes public domain and the copyright gestapo comes and yanks it off your wall. Is that right? And how is Mickey Mouse different from a Picasso painting?
Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 10:27 PM (md3fh)


A Picasso painting is a tangible thing that was painted by Picasso.

A Mickey Mouse cartoon cel is a tangible thing that was drawn by Walt Disney.

But just because the Disney Corporation owns the rights to the Mickey Mouse character, do they then get to make Mickey Mouse porn?

Posted by: rickl at January 05, 2019 10:37 PM (sdi6R)

168 I have watched some Leftards try to explain their stance on inheritance and taxes. It is insanity, and to your point, assumes that all belongs to Gov and they alone decide what you are allowed to keep.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 10:36 PM (ffYR/)


"You didn't build that."

Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 10:38 PM (t+qrx)

169 I have watched some Leftards try to explain their stance on inheritance and taxes. It is insanity, and to your point, assumes that all belongs to Gov and they alone decide what you are allowed to keep.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 10:36 PM (ffYR/)

Did any Trust Fund Babies edge carefully away from the table?

Posted by: Miklos, the most trusted name in Molnars at January 05, 2019 10:38 PM (zCyNd)

170 It is insanity, and to your point, assumes that all belongs to Gov and they alone decide what you are allowed to keep.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 10:36 PM (ffYR/)


You didn't build that!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 05, 2019 10:40 PM (f3oO4)

171 "Interestingly, the apartheid government of South Africa did that to blacks who had acquired some wealth - inheritance was not allowed for blacks, and all wealth went to the state"

link?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 05, 2019 10:40 PM (ykYG2)

172
167 149 So let's say you are Picasso's great grandchild and you have a picture your ancestor painted and it is worth $68.4 million dollars ... until a certain date when it becomes public domain and the copyright gestapo comes and yanks it off your wall. Is that right? And how is Mickey Mouse different from a Picasso painting?
Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 10:27 PM (md3fh)


The painting isn't yanked off your wall. You still possess it and are free to continue to possess it or sell it to realize its monetary value.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 05, 2019 10:41 PM (pNxlR)

173 I have watched some Leftards try to explain their stance on inheritance and taxes. It is insanity, and to your point, assumes that all belongs to Gov and they alone decide what you are allowed to keep.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 10:36 PM (ffYR/)

Did any Trust Fund Babies edge carefully away from the table?
Posted by: Miklos, the most trusted name in Molnars at January 05, 2019 10:38 PM (zCyNd)

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This is where it goes off the rails. They can simultaneously argue that all should go to the state at death, while knowing that any new laws to this effect would not apply to them and their family fortunes.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 10:41 PM (ffYR/)

174
"You didn't build that."

Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 10:38 PM (t+qrx)

You didn't build that!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 05, 2019 10:40 PM (f3oO4)


You didn't think that!

Posted by: Miklos, still the most trusted name in Molnars at January 05, 2019 10:41 PM (zCyNd)

175 The trouble with all this is that the truly rich and truly powerful figure out how to game the system. The rest of we poor doofuses get f**ked every time. Rules for us, not for them. The Rockefellers probably still have (or control) everything old John D. created plus a zillion percent interest. How about the fact that Congress critters can engage in insider trading that would put us in prison like they did to Martha Stewart?

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 10:41 PM (md3fh)

176 Happy Saturday!

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That's a helluva song Zevon wrote. But, Linda Ronstadt took it away from him.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 05, 2019 10:41 PM (3tlgA)

177 Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 10:38 PM (t+qrx)

Obviously you are a very intelligent man with impeccable taste...

and a faster typist than I!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 05, 2019 10:42 PM (f3oO4)

178 Moronopoly? I love it. Do not collect $200 and go straight to The Barrel.
Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 10:22 PM


I know it may be too late to change, but I think "Moron'poly", "Moron-poly", or "Moronpoly" would be easier to pronounce.

Posted by: Chuck C at January 05, 2019 10:42 PM (YTxkQ)

179 Unfortunately for the US......the Finnish goalie was on point tonight unlike the pool play

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at January 05, 2019 10:42 PM (c1nDO)

180 But just because the Disney Corporation owns the rights to the Mickey Mouse character, do they then get to make Mickey Mouse porn?
Posted by: rickl at January 05, 2019 10:37 PM (sdi6R)

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That depends. Would you pay for Mickey Mouse porn?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2019 10:43 PM (VEGnk)

181
"His & Hers Jewelry"

... a match made in Holding.


On a separate note. what's the over/under that the next AoC video (produced by and starring Sandy O-C!) will be AoC herself channeling (or is it Chaneling?) Evita Peron while singing selected tunes from Evita?

Posted by: Arbalest at January 05, 2019 10:43 PM (FlRtG)

182
The difference with paintings as works of art, is that when the artist sells them, he is relinquishing it completely. It is the master. It's a one off and total ownership of the work is transferred to the buyer. Things likw aniimations and songs don't work like that.

Posted by: otho at January 05, 2019 10:44 PM (LkFnL)

183 167 149 So let's say you are Picasso's great grandchild and you have a picture your ancestor painted and it is worth $68.4 million dollars ... until a certain date when it becomes public domain and the copyright gestapo comes and yanks it off your wall. Is that right? And how is Mickey Mouse different from a Picasso painting?
Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 10:27 PM (md3fh)

A Picasso painting is a tangible thing that was painted by Picasso.

A Mickey Mouse cartoon cel is a tangible thing that was drawn by Walt Disney.

But just because the Disney Corporation owns the rights to the Mickey Mouse character, do they then get to make Mickey Mouse porn?
Posted by: rickl at January 05, 2019 10:37 PM (sdi6R)


Sure why not.

See professional sports teams and the licensing of trademarks, emblems, etc

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2019 10:44 PM (aA3+G)

184 How about the fact that Congress critters can engage in insider trading that would put us in prison like they did to Martha Stewart?

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FUN FACT: Martha Stewart didn't even engage in insider trading. She went to jail for lying to the FBI about something that wasn't even a crime.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2019 10:45 PM (VEGnk)

185 KvC, I know that. I am just making an analogy to stimulate thinking on this. I bet the original cel featuring MM is worth a bunch and may still belong to the Disney family. Picasso images can be printed on posters and sold for ten bucks. If the posters were printed in China they could still be in copyright and still sold for ten bucks and only cost ten cents to print. Also, there are special "rights" accorded to artistic works, so that Andy Warhol could paint a picture of the copyrighted soup can. It's art!

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 10:46 PM (md3fh)

186 to the state at death, while knowing that any new laws to this effect would not apply to them and their family fortunes.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 10:41 PM (ffYR/)


They're also experts at compartmentalizing two mutually antagonistic beliefs without letting them get in each other's way, so it's not like you could get them to see the contradiction anyhow.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 10:47 PM (t+qrx)

187 >>>FUN FACT: Martha Stewart didn't even engage in insider trading. She went to jail for lying to the FBI about something that wasn't even a crime.


Sounds familiar

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2019 10:47 PM (aA3+G)

188 The trouble with all this is that the truly rich and truly powerful figure out how to game the system.


In "Do As I Say" Peter Schweitzer described how the Kennedy family, through use of trusts, avoided about 95% of the inheritance taxes that they always advocate.

Note also, that the main success of the men in the Kerry family has been marrying wealthy heiresses. One result is that Jean-Francois Kerry has the benefit of a $600 million family trust from his mother (in addition to free ketchup).

Posted by: Miklos, perhaps the most trusted name in Molnars at January 05, 2019 10:47 PM (zCyNd)

189 187 >>>FUN FACT: Martha Stewart didn't even engage in insider trading. She went to jail for lying to the FBI about something that wasn't even a crime.


Sounds familiar
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2019 10:47 PM (aA3+G)

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Not to Hillary and her gang.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2019 10:48 PM (VEGnk)

190 But just because the Disney Corporation owns the rights to the Mickey Mouse character, do they then get to make Mickey Mouse porn?
Posted by: rickl at January 05, 2019 10:37 PM (sdi6R)

Mickey Mouse has a problem with this.

Posted by: ALH at January 05, 2019 10:48 PM (/Z/Su)

191 FUN FACT: Martha Stewart didn't even engage in insider trading. She went to jail for lying to the FBI about something that wasn't even a crime.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2019 10:45 PM (VEGnk)

patient: Doctor-it hurts when it do this!

(talks to FBI)

doctor: So don't do that!

Posted by: Miklos, perhaps the most trusted name in Molnars at January 05, 2019 10:49 PM (zCyNd)

192 Wait, there's a Horde guild on ESO?

/hugs Jewells

Posted by: I'm Brother Cavil, and I recommend The Courage To Be Disliked at January 05, 2019 10:49 PM (lLeln)

193
Given that the last copyright extension for another 20 years was passed in 1998, does that mean said extension expired in 2018?

Or were the needs of the rent seekers satisfied (the REAL business of gubmint) and another extension was put into effect?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 05, 2019 10:49 PM (pNxlR)

194 Be sure to watch Colts owner Jim "Bad Ice Cube" Irsay slurring though a post game locker room speech.

Posted by: Regular joe at January 05, 2019 10:49 PM (7PllL)

195 Mickey Mouse In Creampie Willy?

Hmmm. I see real potential here...

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2019 10:50 PM (VEGnk)

196 Years ago at some staff function a couple of Disney animators showed a short film of Micky and Minnie doing the two-backed beast. Every one including Walt laughed. Then Walt asked who made the film. They raised their hands and he said "You're fired!" Kind of like the close of one of Trump's Apprentice shows.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 10:50 PM (md3fh)

197 pretty sure the ol' "Tijuana Bibles" featured Mickey Mouse pr0n. Might be able to find some vintage TBs on the `web.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 05, 2019 10:51 PM (ykYG2)

198 That bouy was turnin' his life around...
Posted by: Miklos, unpinged at January 05, 2019 10:12 PM

But then he met the wrong gull.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at January 05, 2019 10:51 PM (zmIJL)

199 >>>>Not to Hillary and her gang.


That Flynn fellow knows first hand

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2019 10:51 PM (aA3+G)

200 FUN FACT: Martha Stewart didn't even engage in insider trading. She went to jail for lying to the FBI about something that wasn't even a crime.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2019 10:45 PM (VEGnk)


IIRC, Martha got nailed for the "administrative process crime" of misremembering, not intentionally lying!

The Feeble Bunch of Idiots has been perfecting this technique for a long time now!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 05, 2019 10:51 PM (f3oO4)

201 OTOH, "hung like a mouse" probably won't sell many pay per views.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2019 10:52 PM (VEGnk)

202
Hmmm. I see real potential here...
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2019 10:50 PM (VEGnk)


The "[ insert Disney character name here ] Is Fucking Goofy" series of pron flicks would be epic and neverending.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 05, 2019 10:53 PM (pNxlR)

203 They call Alabama the "Crimson Tide."

Posted by: Deacon Blue at January 05, 2019 10:54 PM (C1NyB)

204 There was a reason the founders added the Fifth Amendment. When jawboning with the FBI, one should never refer to anything else, although "Fuck if I know" also works, or so I have heard.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 10:54 PM (md3fh)

205 okay, i'm now calling shenanigans on I2/tG's drive-by apartheid inheritance law comment.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 05, 2019 10:54 PM (ykYG2)

206 OTOH, "hung like a mouse" probably won't sell many pay per views.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2019 10:52 PM (VEGnk)

Might work for furries.

Posted by: Miklos, clean shaven other than moustache at January 05, 2019 10:54 PM (zCyNd)

207 Wait, there's a Horde guild on ESO?
Posted by: I'm Brother Cavil, and I recommend The Courage To Be Disliked at January 05, 2019 10:49 PM (lLeln)


Keep an eye out for Inspector Cussword or Polliwog the 'Ette, they tend to run the mumorpuger endeavors around here.

Also Bartertown. They run that.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 10:54 PM (t+qrx)

208
Consider Shakespeare. All of his works are completely in the public domain. Should it be?

If it wasn't, then everyone would still have to pay royalties for using or performing his plays, etc, etc.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at January 05, 2019 10:54 PM (f1Vqw)

209 Well, don't forget Batman's copywrite is up as well.

Is Mickey Mouse/Batman porn on the horizon?


If so-

Dibs on "The Fucking Joke" as title for a Batman, Joker, Mickey Mouse menage a trois porno.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 05, 2019 10:54 PM (CRRq9)

210 Hung like a moose, on the other hand... Bullwinkle porn!

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 10:54 PM (md3fh)

211 "watching a hallmark movie is like taking half a benzo in an Ikea showroom in the middle of Stockholm," writes Toronto-based culture writer Soraya Roberts

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You mean they are about Muslim shitholes where 10 year olds are raped and swimming pools are defecated into? Thanks for the warning on Hallmark movies, Psoriasis, because that is what Stockholm has been reduced to.
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in an article for the Walrus that resurfaced this season titled "The Unwatchable Whiteness of Holiday Movies."

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I tend to find movies with non-whites unwatchable, since they emit the foul stench of a politically correct agenda. When I watch classic shows or movies with all white casts, I can just watch and enjoy the show. They are the most watchable of all.
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... Or as Roberts put it, "interchangeable, white-as-snow narratives."

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Aren't brown-as-shit narratives even more interchangeable? They have no imagination, no creativity, no whimsicality. Just the same stupid ideology being pushed. No thanks. I get a whiff of your foul smelling subhuman bullshit and I avoid it like the plague. If you are ashamed of the fact that you are a feral substandard animal masquerading as a human, don't try to attack real humans out of envy and spite. Go kill yourself.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 05, 2019 10:55 PM (/qEW2)

212 Deacon Blue : did you take your name from the late 1980s Scottish band of that name ?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 05, 2019 10:55 PM (ykYG2)

213 empire1--ESO is available on Steam, probably through other means as well. As to the guild, I'd love to know.

Posted by: I'm Brother Cavil, and I recommend The Courage To Be Disliked at January 05, 2019 10:56 PM (lLeln)

214 Years ago at some staff function a couple of Disney animators showed a short film of Micky and Minnie doing the two-backed beast. Every one including Walt laughed. Then Walt asked who made the film. They raised their hands and he said "You're fired!" Kind of like the close of one of Trump's Apprentice shows.
Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 10:50 PM (md3fh)

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Funny thing about Disney and its structure when Walt was running it. There was no real structure. There was Walt, and then everyone else, no real management layers.

Some employees realized that they could go up to Walt in their cafeteria and ask him about something just to be seen talking with him. This gave them implied power.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 10:56 PM (ffYR/)

215 22 Who still hasn't put up their Christmas decorations?

Slackers!
Posted by: ALH at January 05, 2019 09:48 PM (/Z/Su

Twelfth Night isn't until tomorrow ( Epiphany). Liturgical Christmas season doesn't end until before First Vespers of the First Sunday in Ordinary Time, which would be Evening Prayer on Saturday the 12th.

Posted by: Fox2! at January 05, 2019 10:56 PM (MwFQu)

216 At least it aint cordon bleu.

Posted by: Da Chicken at January 05, 2019 10:57 PM (15FT8)

217 162 I think that it is best to treat IP the same. Patents expire. Hard stop. Otherwise, everything that we purchased would be 99% royalty payments to half of the known world and lawyers would do nothing else than litigate intellectual property rights.

The reason that we protect intellectual property is so that the IP generation is incentivized. If patents didn't exist, there would be no reason to invest time and resources learning how to make something better, as competitors would all be able to reap the same benefits as you despite not investing in the research.

Disney has invested money in building the Mickey Mouse brand, to be certain, but there is no reason that some 3rd party should reap the benefits of other people's art hundreds of years after the creator's death. Doubly true since the rights were extended after the creators already died and their estates sold the rights to corporations. Further extending protection is simply enabling rent-seeking by those parties.
Posted by: In Exile at January 05, 2019 10:34 PM (SDmIR)


I don't usually quote long comments in their entirety, but I agree with everything you said.

Taking intellectual property to absurd lengths actually retards innovation. Case in point: The Wright Brothers patented wing warping and sued anybody else who used ailerons, which accomplished the same thing.

The result was that American aviation was tied up in court for years, while the Europeans leapt ahead of us.

Posted by: rickl at January 05, 2019 10:57 PM (sdi6R)

218 Hung like a moose, on the other hand... Bullwinkle porn!

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 10:54 PM (md3fh)


And Bullwinkle would pull what out of a hat?

Posted by: Miklos, faeing gfor Mr. Peabody and Sherman at January 05, 2019 10:57 PM (zCyNd)

219 Good evening, Horde, and Thanks, MisHum, for a great ONT.

I lost a dear friend, mentor and former boss tonight. This was a man who *defined* the term "bigger than life." He lives a life full of love for his family, his church and his community, and he will be sorely missed.

Baruch Dayan HaEmet. Rest In Peace, dear Joe.

Posted by: ibguy at January 05, 2019 10:57 PM (vUcdz)

220 ESO is available on Steam, probably through other means as well. As to the guild, I'd love to know.
Posted by: I'm Brother Cavil, and I recommend The Courage To Be Disliked at January 05, 2019 10:56 PM (lLeln)

What is ESO?

Posted by: ALH at January 05, 2019 10:58 PM (/Z/Su)

221 It wouldn't be a rabbit!

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 10:58 PM (md3fh)

222 Yes, about 5 hours ago.

{{{Jewells}}}

Posted by: Vendette at January 05, 2019 10:05 PM (4MipL)

My condolences to Jewells, likewise.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2019 10:58 PM (nPGq2)

223 "tend to find movies with non-whites unwatchable, since they emit the foul stench of a politically correct agenda"

Try, no-shit, Tyler Perry movies, or other movies done by blacks intended for a black audience where whites won't go. "Barbershop" is another example.

They are *not* PC. They have their own problems, sure (there's a talent gap, much like in Christian movies). But they know their audience. And they can't run bullshit by that audience.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 05, 2019 10:59 PM (ykYG2)

224
Funny thing about Disney and its structure when Walt was running it. There was no real structure. There was Walt, and then everyone else, no real management layers.

Walt was the creative. His brother ran the business.

Posted by: Miklos, with improved typing skills at January 05, 2019 10:59 PM (zCyNd)

225 What is ESO?
Posted by: ALH at January 05, 2019 10:58 PM (/Z/Su)


Elder Scrolls Online. It's a mumorpuger, one of those games where you play in a yuge world with actual real people (some of whom are Morons in this case).

Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 10:59 PM (t+qrx)

226
22 Who still hasn't put up their Christmas decorations?

Slackers!
Posted by: ALH at January 05, 2019 09:48 PM


Who had Beef Tips for dinner on New Years Day (formerly known in some liturgical calendars as "Feast of the Circumcision")?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 05, 2019 11:00 PM (pNxlR)

227 oh man, one of the commenters who thinks the earth is 2019 years old is "Sami Tamimi". An Arab.

Dude. Your imam is smarter than you, and that is sad.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 05, 2019 10:08 PM (ykYG2)

I would guess that some of those people are just making a joke, and the rest are retards.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2019 11:00 PM (nPGq2)

228 Taking intellectual property to absurd lengths actually retards innovation. Case in point: The Wright Brothers patented wing warping and sued anybody else who used ailerons, which accomplished the same thing.

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The idea of wing warping should not have been patentable. Only a specific method for doing it would be a proper utility patent.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2019 11:00 PM (VEGnk)

229 Oh, and now I see that Jewell's mom has passed, as well.

Oy.

May her memory be for a blessing.

Posted by: ibguy at January 05, 2019 11:01 PM (vUcdz)

230 I lost a dear friend, mentor and former boss tonight. This was a man who *defined* the term "bigger than life." He lives a life full of love for his family, his church and his community, and he will be sorely missed.

Baruch Dayan HaEmet. Rest In Peace, dear Joe.
Posted by: ibguy at January 05, 2019 10:57 PM (vUcdz)

Sorry to hear that. May his family and friends find peace in his passing.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at January 05, 2019 11:01 PM (Ct8k6)

231 People in the South have collards and black eyed peas on New Years Day.

I tried collard greens once when I first moved here, thinking it was spinach.

Talk about Yuck!

Posted by: ALH at January 05, 2019 11:02 PM (/Z/Su)

232

They call Alabama the "Crimson Tide."

Yes. Yes, they do. They also call them National Champions.

Greetings fappers and fappees. ROLL TIDE!!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2019 11:02 PM (HaL55)

233 Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 05, 2019 10:55 PM (ykYG2)

Yes.

Posted by: Deacon Blue at January 05, 2019 11:02 PM (C1NyB)

234 I love black eyed peas and cornbread.

Posted by: Weasel - Register by Feb 1st or there will be Trouble! at January 05, 2019 11:02 PM (MVjcR)

235 "Excellent article by Tucker Carlson about Romney and his ilk"


And Ben Shapiro and David French will have none of it. They both had to rush out and write a rebuttal to Tucker exposing how the GOP elite is out of touch.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 05, 2019 11:03 PM (4thlk)

236

Prayers up for Jewells and her family.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2019 11:03 PM (HaL55)

237 It is perfectly allowable to leave the lights up through the Stock Show.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 05, 2019 11:03 PM (jUcoH)

238

And condolences to you too, ibguy.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2019 11:04 PM (HaL55)

239 Talk about Yuck!

Posted by: ALH at January 05, 2019 11:02 PM (/Z/Su)


Ham hock or fatback, and cook them long enough.

Yum.

Posted by: Miklos, with improved cooking skills at January 05, 2019 11:04 PM (zCyNd)

240 I think we have reached Peak Portland.

In the last few decades, we have learned that every few centuries, the Pacific Northwest has a 9.0 quake off the coast that will devastate Portland and Seattle. (The last quake was in 1700.)

So, seismic standards have been tightened for new buildings, but Portland is full of old brick and unreinforced masonry buildings, which will be deathtraps in a major quake. Retrofitting these buildings to modern seismic standards is extremely expensive, and a lot of buildings will have to be torn down eventually.

So Portland is giving building owners twenty years to upgrade or replace their buildings, but they want the owners of these unsafe buildings to put up a sign now, noting that the building will be unsafe in the event of a major earthquake.

There was a protest in front of City Hall today about the sign requirement.

That is because the sign requirement is -- wait for it -- racist. The NAACP organized the protest (it turns out that a number of black churches would have to post the signs).

The Rev. E.D. Mondaine, president of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People's Portland chapter and pastor at Celebration Tabernacle Church in Kenton, tied what the city maintains is just a requirement to help notify the public to the region's long history of racist policies that have led to gentrification and displacement for African Americans.

Who knew that earthquakes are racist?

Posted by: The ARC of History at January 05, 2019 11:04 PM (I2/tG)

241 Patents can make sense for mechanical thingys, but with the coming of software there was a blur between patents and so-called intellectual property. As I understood it some outfit "patented" something that claimed to be a way to compress image files. They could not actually demonstrate it, it did not consist of code but merely a description of a general process. They got a patent anyway and spent years suing anyone who used any method to compress image files. Probably done by a bunch of lawyers, some of whom go to law school to learn how to skirt the law for fun and profit.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 11:04 PM (md3fh)

242 So I seem to still be banned on my other computer. How do I get unbanned?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 05, 2019 11:04 PM (cRkMZ)

243 Talk about Yuck!

Posted by: ALH at January 05, 2019 11:02 PM (/Z/Su)


Ham hock or fatback, and cook them long enough.

Yum.
Posted by: Miklos, with improved cooking skills at January 05, 2019 11:04 PM (zCyNd)

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Where do grits fit into all of this?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2019 11:05 PM (VEGnk)

244 Brother Cavil -- thanks! I'll look for it there, then. As for the Horde Guild, I guess we'll have to catch Inspector Cussword, 'cause I think it is he who mentioned it.

Posted by: empire1 at January 05, 2019 11:05 PM (1mtzZ)

245 Miklos and everyone, years ago I read the Charles Schulz bio, Good Grief. (I still want to read the David Michaelis bio.)

There was a bit in there that, not only was the vast, VAST majority of Schulz's fortune made by licensing the Peanuts characters for products, but that by the 1980s, Schulz's people (the company was called 'Creative Associates') were *extremely* choosy about who got to market what. Basically every company had to have a stellar reputation for wholesomeness and quality.

To the point that, if someone sent in a product that Schulz didn't approve of, Creative Associates wouldn't even return it. When the proposer called to complain that their sample never came back, they would openly say, "you won't be selling it, so why do you need it back?"

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 05, 2019 11:05 PM (miE9U)

246
Not a fan of collard greens either.

That reminds of a funny one with some neighbors, father and son. They had a big garden, whole family, and junior decided to grow some collards.

Senior didn't care for collards. One day when junior was at work, senior went out and plowed up the collards. Things were a bit icy for a couple weeks after that.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at January 05, 2019 11:05 PM (f1Vqw)

247 However... SHE will not budge since wrong math can kill.
Posted by: shibumi at January 05, 2019 10:03 PM (OXL6p)


YES! Good work by your friend, Shibumi.

Posted by: Emmie at January 05, 2019 11:05 PM (4HMW8)

248 235: that just means TC hit a nerve and the cucks are squealing.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 05, 2019 11:05 PM (W/XGT)

249 Why do people get tattoos on their feet???

Posted by: 18-1 at January 05, 2019 11:05 PM (cRkMZ)

250
And Ben Shapiro and David French will have none of it. They both had to rush out and write a rebuttal to Tucker exposing how the GOP elite is out of touch.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 05, 2019 11:03 PM (4thlk)


What were their articles entitled, "I Touch Myself"?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 05, 2019 11:06 PM (pNxlR)

251

And Bullwinkle would pull what out of a hat?

A lion.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2019 11:06 PM (HaL55)

252 Anything sent voluntarily to someone does not have to be returned. Common law I suspect. Nine parts of same.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 11:07 PM (md3fh)

253 Why do people get tattoos on their feet???
Posted by: 18-1 at January 05, 2019 11:05 PM (cRkMZ)


Where else would you get the pig and the chicken tattoos?

Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 11:07 PM (t+qrx)

254 One of the funniest local news segments y'all will ever see. I promise you will be crying from laughter. Bees On The Porch.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1WrlTD1HyYw

Posted by: literally serious at January 05, 2019 11:07 PM (tRLIC)

255 Ruthless, yup. I shudder to think of some of the junk Schulz's office received from the 1960s through the 1990s.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 05, 2019 11:07 PM (miE9U)

256 228
The idea of wing warping should not have been patentable. Only a specific method for doing it would be a proper utility patent.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2019 11:00 PM (VEGnk)


Yeah, I don't know the precise details, but basically after inventing powered flight, the Wrights became dicks and thought they owned it. They sued everybody in sight who tried to fly.

Meanwhile, the Europeans merrily ignored all that and grew ahead of America by leaps and bounds.


Posted by: rickl at January 05, 2019 11:07 PM (sdi6R)

257 Anything sent voluntarily to someone does not have to be returned. Common law I suspect. Nine parts of same.
Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 11:07 PM (md3fh)

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This is going to put Columbia House out of business.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2019 11:08 PM (VEGnk)

258 My suggestion for IP is death of the artist plus, say, 25 years, then copyright expires unless the copyright holders can demonstrate harm. Disney, no problem - they can easily show they are still using the IP and that losing control of their IP would harm their work. But who exactly is harmed if the last two or three Anne of Green Gables books that are currently still under copyright become public domain? I highly doubt Montgomery's descendants, if there even are any still left, can demonstrate that losing those last three books (out of eight total) would cause them any sort of problem.

Of course, the downside of this approach is that it would create a bureaucracy to assess the applications of the copyright holders. Maybe instead the copyright expires unless the copyright holder files a protest, and no one actually assesses the protest. I don't think that Montgomery's estate, to stick with my example, is going to bother. (Hint: Her books aren't under copyright in Australia. Which means you can get the ebooks off gutenberg.au for free.)

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at January 05, 2019 11:08 PM (rWZ8Y)

259 Cicero, it already did. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 05, 2019 11:08 PM (miE9U)

260 So I seem to still be banned on my other computer. How do I get unbanned?
Posted by: 18-1 at January 05, 2019 11:04 PM (cRkMZ)

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Email to Ace and the Cobs (addresses main page) with your hash and IP address should help.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 11:08 PM (ffYR/)

261

Not a fan of collard greens either.

You gotta cook 'em way down, slow boil for around 10 hours, and put a small whole pepper in them. Serve them with diced tomatoes and onions on top with a big ol' wedge of cornbread dripping in butter.

Fine eatin', as they used to say back home in Alabama.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2019 11:09 PM (HaL55)

262 149 So let's say you are Picasso's great grandchild and you have a picture your ancestor painted and it is worth $68.4 million dollars ... until a certain date when it becomes public domain and the copyright gestapo comes and yanks it off your wall. Is that right? And how is Mickey Mouse different from a Picasso painting?
Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 10:27 PM (md3fh
You still own the painting. You can't stop someone from selling postcards of the painting after the copyright expires. IANAL.IANYL. Etc, etc, etc.

Which would probably violate the copyright on The King and I

Posted by: Fox2! at January 05, 2019 11:09 PM (MwFQu)

263 The Nazis made some incredible planes. Not enough of them though.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 11:10 PM (md3fh)

264 Cicero, it already did. ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 05, 2019 11:08 PM (miE9U)

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See? I predicted this.

That will be $400 please.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2019 11:10 PM (VEGnk)

265 Email to Ace and the Cobs (addresses main page) with your hash and IP address should help.


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I tried that and the email bounced back...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 05, 2019 11:11 PM (cRkMZ)

266
249 Why do people get tattoos on their feet???
Posted by: 18-1 at January 05, 2019 11:05 PM (cRkMZ)


Oh, you babe in the woods. There are some who have thought it a splendid idea to tattoo their dangly bits and their squeekholes. Why do THAT?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 05, 2019 11:11 PM (pNxlR)

267 Which 'C' school would that be? Al Gore U?



Devry.

Posted by: shibumi at January 05, 2019 11:11 PM (OXL6p)

268 Columbia House is still in business? Who knew?

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 11:11 PM (md3fh)

269 263 The Nazis made some incredible planes. Not enough of them though.
Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 11:10 PM (md3fh)

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They were a little short on long range bombers.

Posted by: W. Churchill at January 05, 2019 11:11 PM (VEGnk)

270 Yeah, I don't know the precise details, but basically after inventing powered flight, the Wrights became dicks and thought they owned it. They sued everybody in sight who tried to fly.

Meanwhile, the Europeans merrily ignored all that and grew ahead of America by leaps and bounds.


Despite the fact that a report by the British Academy had dismissed the possiblity of heavier-than-air flight six months before Kitty Hawk. The science was settled!

Posted by: Miklos, with only one patent at January 05, 2019 11:11 PM (zCyNd)

271 shibumi, oh wow.
I almost signed up at one of those. ;-)
There's one nearby me.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 05, 2019 11:11 PM (miE9U)

272 Deplorables Global Initiative, Inc. holds the copyright to The Deplorable Gourmet, so don't any of you homos go copying it!

Posted by: Weasel - Register by Feb 1st or there will be Trouble! at January 05, 2019 11:12 PM (MVjcR)

273 Weasel, but what about my all-new top-shelf line of Deplorable Gourmet sex toys, vibrators, dildoes and condoms??!?

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 05, 2019 11:13 PM (miE9U)

274 Email to Ace and the Cobs (addresses main page) with your hash and IP address should help.


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I tried that and the email bounced back...
Posted by: 18-1 at January 05, 2019 11:11 PM (cRkMZ)

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Then try help@pixymisa.com, the host server of the main and comments portion of the site.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 11:13 PM (ffYR/)

275 Coming soon, the Disgusting Gourmet cookbook!
See, you just change it a little bit and it weasels right by the copyright fence and into the chicken coop.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 11:13 PM (md3fh)

276 Deplorables Global Initiative, Inc. holds the copyright to The Deplorable Gourmet, so don't any of you homos go copying it!
Posted by: Weasel - Register by Feb 1st or there will be Trouble! at January 05, 2019 11:12 PM (MVjcR)

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Weasel, if you were smart you'd be claiming exclusivity on the concept of rectangular books. Sue everyone, like those bastard Wright Brothers did!

Posted by: W. Churchill at January 05, 2019 11:14 PM (VEGnk)

277 Basically Shapiro and French's rebuttable is nothing more than everything is fine and us rubes need to lighten up. The job market for men is fine, just be happy with your low wage job. Go to church and find religion and a wife and everything will work out. The free market will set you free. Blah. blah, blah.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 05, 2019 11:14 PM (4thlk)

278 Sorry, Winston. Begone.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2019 11:14 PM (VEGnk)

279 Weasel, if you were smart you'd be claiming exclusivity on the concept of rectangular books. Sue everyone, like those bastard Wright Brothers did!

Posted by: W. Churchill at January 05, 2019 11:14 PM (VEGnk)

Does this book use letters, by any chance?

Posted by: Miklos, attorney for the Phoenecians at January 05, 2019 11:16 PM (zCyNd)

280 273 Weasel, but what about my all-new top-shelf line of Deplorable Gourmet sex toys, vibrators, dildoes and condoms??!?
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 05, 2019 11:13 PM (miE9U)
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We'll sue!!!

I thought there was some theory in law that protected against that sort of thing. For example, DGI doesn't have a trademarked logo, but I thought there was some basis for otherwise protecting a brand.

I'm just a simple organic tree farmer, and your legal machinations frighten and confuse me.

Posted by: Weasel - Register by Feb 1st or there will be Trouble! at January 05, 2019 11:17 PM (MVjcR)

281
Weasel, if you were smart you'd be claiming exclusivity on the concept of rectangular books. Sue everyone, like those bastard Wright Brothers did!
Posted by: W. Churchill at January 05, 2019 11:14 PM (VEGnk)
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I think we all see the problem here.

Posted by: Weasel - Register by Feb 1st or there will be Trouble! at January 05, 2019 11:17 PM (MVjcR)

282 "The Nazis made some incredible planes. Not enough of them though.


Posted by: Ruthless"

Or der fuhrer had them used for the wrong purpose.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 05, 2019 11:18 PM (DjIXP)

283 Why do people get tattoos on their feet???

Posted by: 18-1 at January 05, 2019 11:05 PM (cRkMZ)

Ran out of real estate on her tits?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2019 11:18 PM (nPGq2)

284

Oh, you babe in the woods. There are some who have thought it a splendid
idea to tattoo their dangly bits and their squeekholes. Why do THAT?


Shorty's Bar and Grill, Thonotosassa Florida. 1-800-Get-Shorty.
Every nurse knows that joke.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2019 11:18 PM (HaL55)

285 I'm just a simple organic tree farmer, and your legal machinations frighten and confuse me.

Posted by: Weasel - Register by Feb 1st or there will be Trouble! at January 05, 2019 11:17 PM (MVjcR)


Good move.

The market for inorganic trees is really tough.

Posted by: Miklos, with no personal brand at January 05, 2019 11:18 PM (zCyNd)

286 There is wet stuff falling from the sky.

Unprecedented.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 05, 2019 11:19 PM (ZejZP)

287 I thought there was some theory in law that protected against that sort of thing. For example, DGI doesn't have a trademarked logo, but I thought there was some basis for otherwise protecting a brand.


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You can have a common law trademark without registration. But the infringing product has to be "confusingly similar" to your to go after it. Alas, but most people aren't going to confuse a dildo with a cookbook.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2019 11:19 PM (VEGnk)

288 Can it be both a cookbook and a floor polish?

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 11:20 PM (md3fh)

289 Alas, but most people aren't going to confuse a dildo with a cookbook.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2019 11:19 PM (VEGnk)

Ahem

Posted by: ER doctor with stories to tell at January 05, 2019 11:20 PM (zCyNd)

290 "Not a fan of collard greens either."

Mustard and Collard greens are fine, especially with some pork loins, mashed potatoes, and cornbread.

Don't care for the Turnip greens though.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 05, 2019 11:20 PM (DjIXP)

291 Alas, but most people aren't going to confuse a dildo with a cookbook.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2019 11:19 PM (VEGnk)


"Be honest - you don't really come here for the recipes, do you?"

Posted by: Just the wrong punchline at January 05, 2019 11:21 PM (t+qrx)

292
You can have a common law trademark without registration. But the infringing product has to be "confusingly similar" to your to go after it. Alas, but most people aren't going to confuse a dildo with a cookbook.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2019 11:19 PM (VEGnk)


How about we check the logs at hospital emergency rooms to see whether this assumption regarding confusion holds water?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 05, 2019 11:22 PM (pNxlR)

293 Honest, Doc, it was just lying there on the chair when I sat down and....

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 11:22 PM (md3fh)

294 How about we check the logs at hospital emergency rooms to see whether this assumption regarding confusion holds water?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 05, 2019 11:22 PM (pNxlR)

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Now you're thinking like a lawyer!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2019 11:23 PM (VEGnk)

295 I'm going to try beet greens this week when I attempt a no-mato sauce.

The Sauce will probs stuck, but I know i can make the beet greens work.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 05, 2019 11:23 PM (ZejZP)

296 There is wet stuff falling from the sky.

Unprecedented.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 05, 2019 11:19 PM (ZejZP)

It is spitting rain here in Apache Junction, but the forecast calls for up to a half-inch overnight and through the morning tomorrow. But fine weather thereafter.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2019 11:23 PM (nPGq2)

297 "270
Yeah, I don't know the precise details, but basically after inventing
powered flight, the Wrights became dicks and thought they owned it. They
sued everybody in sight who tried to fly."


Because they kind of did. They were rightfully concerned about getting their invention patented and cashing in. They understood the real money was in defense contracts and they had to get those locked down. They were right, making any money in the private aviation sector didn't really start till the late 1920's.


Posted by: lowandslow at January 05, 2019 11:25 PM (4thlk)

298 Honest, Doc, it was just lying there on the chair when I sat down and....
Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 11:22 PM (md3fh)

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My daughter just graduated Nursing school, and is not even a licensed Nurse yet. She already has some howler stories from her time on ED clinical rotation about how objects somehow got up the ass.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 11:26 PM (ffYR/)

299 Mama, take this bag of candied ginger away,
I shouldn't be eating these any more,
Beginning to regret some of my decisions vis-a-vis a whole damn bag of candied ginger,
something something, really sad

(chorus)

Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 11:26 PM (t+qrx)

300 Past time for bed. Night everyone!

Posted by: Weasel - Register by Feb 1st or there will be Trouble! at January 05, 2019 11:26 PM (MVjcR)

301 so, you should know, if you are beautiful you do not have to tattoo in on your foot. should you need to tattoo in on your foot you should tattoo it on the bottom of your foot, next to your name, so the guy doing you can be reminded.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2019 11:27 PM (MTjB1)

302

'Night Weasel.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2019 11:27 PM (HaL55)

303 241 Patents can make sense for mechanical thingys, but with the coming of software there was a blur between patents and so-called intellectual property. As I understood it some outfit "patented" something that claimed to be a way to compress image files. They could not actually demonstrate it, it did not consist of code but merely a description of a general process. They got a patent anyway and spent years suing anyone who used any method to compress image files. Probably done by a bunch of lawyers, some of whom go to law school to learn how to skirt the law for fun and profit.
Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 11:04 PM (md3fh)

Are you referring to Sperry/Unisys and the LZW algorithm?

Posted by: Liv at January 05, 2019 11:27 PM (MwFQu)

304 Candied ginger?

Were they all out of candied okra?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2019 11:27 PM (VEGnk)

305
My daughter just graduated Nursing school, and is not even a licensed Nurse yet. She already has some howler stories from her time on ED clinical rotation about how objects somehow got up the ass.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 11:26 PM (ffYR/)


And each and every object was just the sneakiest thing, ever! Right?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 05, 2019 11:28 PM (pNxlR)

306 'night, Weasel

Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 11:28 PM (t+qrx)

307 Beginning to regret some of my decisions vis-a-vis a whole damn bag of candied ginger,
something something, really sad

(chorus)
Posted by: hogmartin


Be sure to write down all of those wonderful nightmares dreams you have.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 05, 2019 11:28 PM (ZejZP)

308 Liv, I don't remember any details, just the jist of it, but I thought it was some scam deal rather than something involving actual computer corporations.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 11:28 PM (md3fh)

309 It is spitting rain here in Apache Junction, but the forecast calls for up to a half-inch overnight and through the morning tomorrow. But fine weather thereafter.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


AZ has had a remarkable rain season the past few months.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 05, 2019 11:29 PM (ZejZP)

310 you know, the only thing missing from the pic up top is mishum sitting in the chair


https://tinyurl.com/



or for the vid here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp3mfqfki5g

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2019 11:30 PM (MTjB1)

311 Be sure to write down all of those wonderful nightmares dreams you have.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 05, 2019 11:28 PM (ZejZP)


It'll be a sweet 'n' spicy vision quest.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 11:30 PM (t+qrx)

312 Rain in AZ is due to global warming and bad karma.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 11:31 PM (md3fh)

313 My daughter just graduated Nursing school, and is not even a licensed Nurse yet. She already has some howler stories from her time on ED clinical rotation about how objects somehow got up the ass.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 11:26 PM (ffYR/)

And each and every object was just the sneakiest thing, ever! Right?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 05, 2019 11:28 PM (pNxlR)

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About 20% are like this, according to her. The other 80% don't bother and just wanna get it removed and go home.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 11:32 PM (ffYR/)

314 My daughter just graduated Nursing school, and is not even a licensed Nurse yet. She already has some howler stories from her time on ED clinical rotation about how objects somehow got up the ass.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 11:26 PM (ffYR/)

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She should write a book:

What Goes Up: A Memoir of Rectal Discoveries

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2019 11:33 PM (VEGnk)

315

And each and every object was just the sneakiest thing, ever! Right?

Or spring loaded.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2019 11:33 PM (HaL55)

316 Really, Doc, I was just gonna change a flat tire and this tire jack just jumped up all of a sudden....

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 11:33 PM (md3fh)

317 A red-letter day of sorts here for me. Got the paperwork ducks all in a row, and went to the Motor Vehicle license agency, and got the title for the 1960 Studebaker Lark transferred into my name, and a current plate (having shown proof of insurance).

Came back to the house, hung the plate on the car, and fired it up, and backed out into the driveway. Cleaned all the windows inside and out, dusted off the seats, poured a few gallons of gas into the tank, and checked all the lights. Brake lights wouldn't work, so I stood on the pedal, and my buddy whacked the hydraulic switch with a wrench, and they came on! And now work normally.

So we went for a drive. Did a circuit of about 2 miles, and it ran great. Engine never stalled, ran smooth and quiet, no hesitation when I stepped on the gas. Rolls straight down the road as it should. It even stops, although the brakes do need service. Left a trail of blue smoke, but the piston rings really haven't had a chance to seat yet.

I am really delighted. It is now a usable car.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2019 11:33 PM (nPGq2)

318
Beginning to regret some of my decisions vis-a-vis a whole damn bag of candied ginger,
something something, really sad

(chorus)
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 11:26 PM (t+qrx)


A conmendable start! Sneaking vis-a-vis into the lyrics is super classy and makes the whole effort really, really high brow.

I encourage you to continue to refine and finish this magnum opus!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 05, 2019 11:33 PM (pNxlR)

319 Ben Shapiro needs to learn to code.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 05, 2019 11:34 PM (ykYG2)

320 AOP, weren't you doing something with a Triumph a couple years ago? Whatever came of that?

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 11:34 PM (md3fh)

321 About 20% are like this, according to her. The other 80% don't bother and just wanna get it removed and go home.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 11:32 PM (ffYR/)


Do the 80% have ER parking spots with their names on them? Punch cards where the 9th ass-removal is free?

Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 11:35 PM (t+qrx)

322 would like to point out that mishum was only using the glass of chardonnay as a stand in for the shoot and would never ever willingly drink or even be in the same room as some vile, hepussy, swill as chardonnay and would never take action to prevent chardonnay from being knocked off a table.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2019 11:36 PM (MTjB1)

323
About 20% are like this, according to her. The other 80% don't bother and just wanna get it removed and go home.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 11:32 PM (ffYR/)


Do they take home the wayward object or leave it with the ER staff?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 05, 2019 11:36 PM (pNxlR)

324 Well, Doc, I was just minding my own business in Paris when the Eiffel Tower ....

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 11:36 PM (md3fh)

325

I am really delighted. It is now a usable car.

1. What color is it?
2. Pics are mandatory at some point.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2019 11:36 PM (HaL55)

326 I am really delighted. It is now a usable car.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2019 11:33 PM (nPGq2)

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You have yourself a helluva project car there. Are you going to do the resto or sell it to someone who will?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 11:36 PM (ffYR/)

327 AOP, weren't you doing something with a Triumph a couple years ago? Whatever came of that?

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 11:34 PM (md3fh)

I sold it to a couple from Gilbert in October, and they are happy with it. And I made some nice coin on the deal.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2019 11:36 PM (nPGq2)

328 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2019 11:33 PM (nPGq2)

That's great. Did you actually have to show proof of insurance? Here you just have to sign you have insurance. It's kind of bullshit.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at January 05, 2019 11:37 PM (Ct8k6)

329 he, is "hepussy" a word or did I just coin that right here right now? given the state of genderdysphoria, should definitely be one.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2019 11:37 PM (MTjB1)

330 329 he, is "hepussy" a word or did I just coin that right here right now? given the state of genderdysphoria, should definitely be one.
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2019 11:37 PM (MTjB1)

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First try using it in a sentence.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2019 11:38 PM (VEGnk)

331 First try using it in a sentence.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at J



did that back when discussing mishum at 322.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2019 11:38 PM (MTjB1)

332 Do they take home the wayward object or leave it with the ER staff?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 05, 2019 11:36 PM (pNxlR)

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No wonder the Lost and Found Department always smells funny.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2019 11:39 PM (VEGnk)

333 Do they take home the wayward object or leave it with the ER staff?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 05, 2019 11:36 PM (pNxlR)


And if they leave it with the staff, what do THEY do with it? Is there a trophy room?

Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2019 11:39 PM (t+qrx)

334 I think I remember reading about a doctor who had a display case full of "interesting" objects he had removed from patients.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 11:40 PM (md3fh)

335 First try using it in a sentence.
Posted by: Cicero


Forget it. He's on a roll. Kaiser, possibly poppy.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 05, 2019 11:40 PM (ZejZP)

336
329 he, is "hepussy" a word or did I just coin that right here right now? given the state of genderdysphoria, should definitely be one.
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2019 11:37 PM (MTjB1)


Y5, King of the Neologisms!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 05, 2019 11:41 PM (pNxlR)

337 hepussy seems common among those SERVING a sentence

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 05, 2019 11:41 PM (ykYG2)

338 1. What color is it?
2. Pics are mandatory at some point.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2019 11:36 PM (HaL55)

It is beige, and most of the paint on the body is intact, although quite dull. The hood, front fenders, and nose panel were evidently replaced at some time in the past, and shot with a very thin coat of beige paint, and all show surface rust, but no rust holes.

I may just scrub it real well, and drive it with the "patina". That is a thing, now.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2019 11:41 PM (nPGq2)

339 Speaking of removing things from people, I remember hearing about the Rabbi who kept all the trimmings from the bris ceremonies he performed. He eventually had them stitched together to make a wallet. When he stroked it, it turned into a suitcase.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 11:42 PM (md3fh)

340 And what, mangina is just supposed to sit there in a corner and kibutz with putz?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 05, 2019 11:42 PM (ZejZP)

341 Y5, King of the Neologisms!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at J




lol, well, that is better than king of the hepussy.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2019 11:42 PM (MTjB1)

342
did that back when discussing mishum at 322.
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2019 11:38 PM (MTjB1)

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I'll allow it.

Posted by: The AoSHQ Creative Vernacular Review Committee at January 05, 2019 11:42 PM (VEGnk)

343 You wanna hear stories, get a medical director from your states maximum security penal institution talking.

Bored inmates will put anything up their ass.

Posted by: tbodie at January 05, 2019 11:42 PM (5kNms)

344 Hepussy ???-hater's Club?

Posted by: Miklos, that Little Rascal at January 05, 2019 11:42 PM (zCyNd)

345 Jewell and others,

Blessed be the memories of your lost loved ones. They will live in your memories, pass those down to your children and grandchildren. I am of an age where many have passed beyond. I think of them often and in my heart they remain present. God bless.

Posted by: colfax mingo at January 05, 2019 11:43 PM (jBtfq)

346 If you want to witness a real dogfight, ask a bunch of libertarians if Intellectual Property deserves property rights. It can be like throwing a stone into the ranks of soldiers sprouting from dragon teeth.

The major argument is whether IP can actually be classed as property with the holder's right to it as property, because depending on your definition IP may or may not conform to the requirements of property, and may or may not exist solely because of governmental fiat, and due to either one of those things, holds its status of property fraudulently or without merit (or is defaulted because it exists only because of governmental use of force).

Since the original purpose of copyright beyond the life of the creator was put forward as the "drunken creative genius" argument: that the creator who was a drunkard wrote a beautiful work and then died from sleeping in the rain, the copyright should remain for his children.
So sure, let the copyright last 21 years and then expires, by that time the kids should be on their own, the widow on her feet, and the best way to keep the memory of the great man alive is to allow free access without the jealous hoarding by someone who will keep it in obscurity to try to earn a profit from it.

And if Disney Corp wants control of the Disney creations, they can trademark all the characters, like the FIFA mascots, instead.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 05, 2019 11:43 PM (mUa7G)

347 You can buy a hepussy with a hapenny.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 05, 2019 11:44 PM (aKsyK)

348 by the way. have been spending some time at a military related blog that is infested with Trump haters. you know what really sets them off?

noting that the nazis were socialists every time they go off on Trump or Trump supporters being nazis.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2019 11:44 PM (MTjB1)

349 You wanna hear stories, get a medical director from your states maximum security penal institution talking.

Bored inmates will put anything up their ass.
Posted by: tbodie at January 05, 2019 11:42 PM (5kNms)

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Understood and agreed but....,.naahhh. No interest.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 11:44 PM (ffYR/)

350 noting that the nazis were socialists every time they go off on Trump or Trump supporters being nazis.
Posted by: yankeefifth


Is it a just a history blog or actual mil-blog?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 05, 2019 11:45 PM (ZejZP)

351 You have yourself a helluva project car there. Are you going to do the resto or sell it to someone who will?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 11:36 PM (ffYR/)

I think I will basically "preserve" it, and fix what needs fixing. Make it safe and roadworthy, and just enjoy it. It is already non-stock, since it has a later-model Studebaker six in it, but that won't stop me from enjoying the ride.

That's great. Did you actually have to show proof of insurance? Here you just have to sign you have insurance. It's kind of bullshit.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at January 05, 2019 11:37 PM (Ct8k6)

I had transferred my collector car insurance to it from the Triumph, when I sold the latter in October, but I didn't have the insurance card. Called the company this morning, and they e-mailed me a pdf of the card, and I printed that out, and took it to the agency to get the plate.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2019 11:46 PM (nPGq2)

352 ALL RIGHTS RESERVED©™®

Posted by: Miklos, lawyering up at January 05, 2019 11:47 PM (zCyNd)

353

I may just scrub it real well, and drive it with the "patina". That is a thing, now.

Kewl. I did an exhaustive Intarwebz search and found some great pics. Found some 2-doors both with and without a post. I wonder if they made both of those in 1960 or a different year and the pics were mislabeled? Haven't seen one of those in a long time.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2019 11:47 PM (HaL55)

354 Is it a just a history blog or actual mil-blog?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at J




more of a military news blog with some interesting writing every so often. not a hardcore military blog or milhistory blog, but the military is their main subject.

http://www.thedrive.com/

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2019 11:47 PM (MTjB1)

355 You can buy a hepussy with a hapenny.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at J



lol

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2019 11:48 PM (MTjB1)

356 I may just scrub it real well, and drive it with the "patina". That is a thing, now.


Are we back to random rectal items?

Posted by: Miklos, unsure at January 05, 2019 11:49 PM (zCyNd)

357 my favorite sister, I have three, sent me a german chocolate cake. she was my favorite before but has definitely cemented her position now.

the other two are dipshits though.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2019 11:49 PM (MTjB1)

358 How about we check the logs at hospital emergency rooms to see whether this assumption regarding confusion holds water?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 05, 2019 11:22 PM (pNxlR)


Oddly enough, there was a bit of a fury in the Dominican Republic when an Emergency room MD took pictures and posted them on line from when a man was admitted for shoving a full sized aerosol can of Glade air freshener up his rectum.

He was acquitted of malfeasance, neglect of duty and wrong doing during a review by an oversight board, but representatives for the patient are claiming damages and may appeal.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 05, 2019 11:50 PM (mUa7G)

359 we back to random rectal items?
Posted by: Miklos, unsure at J




quit stealing my lines.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2019 11:50 PM (MTjB1)

360 You scrubbed the hepussy? Good boy. Cleanliness is next to, something something.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 11:50 PM (md3fh)

361 my favorite sister, I have three, sent me a german chocolate cake. she was my favorite before but has definitely cemented her position now.

the other two are dipshits though.
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2019 11:49 PM (MTjB1)

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So then the German chocolate cake was entirely unnecessary?

Posted by: The AoSHQ Creative Vernacular Review Committee at January 05, 2019 11:51 PM (VEGnk)

362 "And if Disney Corp wants control of the Disney creations, they can
trademark all the characters, like the FIFA mascots, instead"


They do. Sometimes people will name their airplane, classic car or boat some cute Disney name and put a picture of Mickey Mouse or something on it and if Disney sees a photo of it will send letters telling you to remove the image. I'm not kidding.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 05, 2019 11:51 PM (4thlk)

363 So then the German chocolate cake was entirely unnecessary?
Posted by: The AoSHQ Creative Vernacular Review Committee at J




she knew that going in.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2019 11:51 PM (MTjB1)

364
If we truly live in the Free Market Paradise that our GOPe Better insist we do, why is the Federal government enforcing bans on importing knock-offs without charging the trademark owners with security fees?

If making or importing Diz-knee goods a violation of the multi-dimensional IP act, why shouldn't Diz-knee pay ... um, fees and or extra taxes for said services?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 05, 2019 11:52 PM (ZejZP)

365 You can buy a hepussy with a hapenny.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at J


Oh, honey. A hepussy costs a lot more than a hapenny.

Posted by: Bruce Jenner at January 05, 2019 11:52 PM (5kNms)

366

Oddly enough,...

That is the understatement of the decade.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2019 11:52 PM (HaL55)

367 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2019 11:46 PM (nPGq2)

Ok, not just your standard minimum car insurance.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at January 05, 2019 11:53 PM (Ct8k6)

368 If making or importing Diz-knee goods a violation of the multi-dimensional IP act, why shouldn't Diz-knee pay ... um, fees and or extra taxes for said services?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 05, 2019 11:52 PM (ZejZP)


Uh, we'll get right on that.

Posted by: ABC News at January 05, 2019 11:53 PM (zCyNd)

369 we back to random rectal items?
Posted by: Miklos, unsure at J

quit stealing my lines.
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2019 11:50 PM (MTjB1)

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Sorry, your only pass is for "surprise anal". Say again, "surprise anal".

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 05, 2019 11:53 PM (ffYR/)

370 360 You scrubbed the hepussy? Good boy. Cleanliness is next to, something something.
Posted by: Ruthless at January 05, 2019 11:50 PM (md3fh)


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Scrub it? You really need to steam it to get the maximum beneficial effect.

Posted by: G. Paltrow at January 05, 2019 11:54 PM (VEGnk)

371 Sorry, your only pass is for "surprise anal". Say again, "surprise anal".
Posted by: Calm Mentor at J



lol. not to make the claim that that is my line so much as he beat me to typing it by mere secs.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2019 11:54 PM (MTjB1)

372 Kewl. I did an exhaustive Intarwebz search and found some great pics. Found some 2-doors both with and without a post. I wonder if they made both of those in 1960 or a different year and the pics were mislabeled? Haven't seen one of those in a long time.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2019 11:47 PM (HaL55)

In 1960, you could get a 4-door sedan (like what I have here), a 2-door sedan with pillar, or a 2-door hardtop, or a convertible, or a station wagon. I think initially there were only 2-door wagons, but 4-doors came along in subsequent years.

And both 6-cylinder and V8 engines were offered. And the V8 cars were pretty hot performers in their day, being a compact car with an engine formerly used in a full-size car.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2019 11:54 PM (nPGq2)

373 he beat me to typing it by mere secs.

*praying there are no typos or misspellings here*

Posted by: Miklos, moderately mortified at January 05, 2019 11:56 PM (zCyNd)

374 Off, sock like object.

Posted by: tbodie at January 05, 2019 11:56 PM (5kNms)

375

They do. Sometimes people will name their airplane, classic car or boat
some cute Disney name and put a picture of Mickey Mouse or something on
it and if Disney sees a photo of it will send letters telling you to
remove the image. I'm not kidding.


The Giant Rat sued a daycare center down here once for painting a wall with their characters.

Have I mentioned lately that I hate that company with the white-hot heat of a thousand suns? Never had a good gig there, the managers aren't very nice and they're control freaks like you have no idea.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2019 11:56 PM (HaL55)

376 Ok, not just your standard minimum car insurance.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at January 05, 2019 11:53 PM (Ct8k6)

Collector-car insurance. It's cheaper, in fact. But restrictions apply. Limited mileage, no use for to-and-from work, have to store car in locked building, etc.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2019 11:56 PM (nPGq2)

377 my buddy whacked the hydraulic switch with a wrench.
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Heh. I do not recall ever having to deal with a stoplight switch on a vintage-ish car. Were pressure switches common?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 05, 2019 11:58 PM (U2TY5)

378 Collector-car insurance. It's cheaper, in fact. But restrictions apply. Limited mileage, no use for to-and-from work, have to store car in locked building, etc.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2019 11:56 PM (nPGq2)

Years ago I was on a jury for a civil case involving a collector car involved in an accident.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at January 05, 2019 11:58 PM (Ct8k6)

379 so we are clear, the endless amusement that I get from the "surprise anal" is twofold.

first, there was some scrunt da somewhere that announced she was going on a surprise anal witch hunt and would be charging everyone surprise analling people.

second, not sure that surprise anal is really a very common thing. have noted before that I am not wilt chamberlain, however, my experience with the equipment involved would suggest that truly surprising anal is exceedingly uncommon.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2019 11:58 PM (MTjB1)

380 there are no typos or misspellings here*
Posted by: Miklos, moderately mortified at J




lol

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2019 11:59 PM (MTjB1)

381 I used to have a Sunbeam Tiger, a British sports car with a Ford V-8, and it had one of those Lukas fuel pumps known to be unreliable. Sometimes it would lock up and I would have to open up a little hatch behind the driver's seat and whack the pump with the handle end of a screwdriver to get it running again. Simpler times.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 12:00 AM (md3fh)

382
The Giant Rat sued a daycare center down here once for painting a wall with their characters.

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I once defended the proprietor of a cheesy mall kiosk in a suit but Disney. She was selling charm bracelets and some of the charms were knockoff Disney characters from a Chinese supplier. The mouse has very sticky fingers.

Posted by: G. Paltrow at January 06, 2019 12:01 AM (VEGnk)

383 one more thing, surprise anal is kind of the modern equivalent of, supercalifragilisticexpialidocious, resets the discussion in any room.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2019 12:01 AM (MTjB1)

384 that's #bullshit!

Sony was killed y an Abominable Snowman dinging "I Got You Babe"

Posted by: at January 06, 2019 12:01 AM (zJ7J0)

385 Gwyneth, I did not know you were also a lawyer. Good work!

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 12:02 AM (md3fh)

386 @ 377

Sure--Ford used a pressure switch on their cars for years.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 06, 2019 12:03 AM (S/hVx)

387

And both 6-cylinder and V8 engines were offered. And the V8 cars were
pretty hot performers in their day, being a compact car with an engine
formerly used in a full-size car.


I bet they were. That'd be sorta like a Ford Falcon with a 289 I'd think. Sweet.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 06, 2019 12:03 AM (HaL55)

388 second, not sure that surprise anal is really a very common thing. have noted before that I am not wilt chamberlain, however, my experience with the equipment involved would suggest that truly surprising anal is exceedingly uncommon.
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 05, 2019 11:58 PM (MTjB1)

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I would guess that careful advance planning would be a necessity for the successful perpetrator.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 06, 2019 12:03 AM (VEGnk)

389 It was 50 degrees here today.. took down the minimal outside decors we put up this year.. we are definitely cutting back!
I consider every day between now and April 1st that doesn't snow, a blessing!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 06, 2019 12:04 AM (438dO)

390 Are we talking perpetrating, or penetrating? I don't know much about this subject.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 12:04 AM (md3fh)

391 Gwyneth, I did not know you were also a lawyer. Good work!
Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 12:02 AM (md3fh)

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Pesky sock!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 06, 2019 12:05 AM (VEGnk)

392 Ok, not just your standard minimum car insurance.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at January 05, 2019 11:53 PM (Ct8k6)

Collector-car insurance. It's cheaper, in fact. But restrictions apply. Limited mileage, no use for to-and-from work, have to store car in locked building, etc.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2019 11:56 PM (nPGq2)

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Yep. Hagerty is the way to go here in the U.S. 1972 442 Convertible cost $200/year as long as it was driven less than 5k miles/year. $15k stated value too.

They know Classic owners are careful drivers.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 06, 2019 12:05 AM (ffYR/)

393 Which song speaks most to the concept of alienation?

Misfits by the Kinks
Feel Like a Number by Bob Seger
On the Outside by Oingo Boingo

Posted by: Newb at January 06, 2019 12:05 AM (OFRmI)

394 used to have a Sunbeam Tiger, a British sports car with a Ford V-8, and it had one of those Lukas fuel pumps known to be unreliable. Sometimes it would lock up and I would have to open up a little hatch behind the driver's seat and whack the pump with the handle end of a screwdriver to get it running again. Simpler times.
Posted by: Ruthless at J



https://makeagif.com/gif/goldeneye-sledge-hammer-car-repair-AW8kIJ

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2019 12:07 AM (MTjB1)

395 Sure--Ford used a pressure switch on their cars for years.
Posted by: irongrampa
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Interesting. Just never had a cause to encounter one.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2019 12:07 AM (YvUf/)

396 So, along with Melania Trump, and Juliana Awada, I have seen pictures of Michelle Bolsonaro, and she is also a fox.

Too bad Brazilian president Jair Bolsonaro looks like Carl Sagan though.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 06, 2019 12:07 AM (mUa7G)

397 Don't worry Cicero. One reason I never do socks is because I know I would always be messing up and embarrassing myself. I can embarrass myself just fine without a sock.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 12:07 AM (md3fh)

398

They know Classic owners are careful drivers.

Two more years and my S-10 will be a legal classic. Which reminds me, I have to buy a new battery for it on Monday. Not looking forward to that, they've gotten sorta pricey here lately.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 06, 2019 12:08 AM (HaL55)

399 Yep. Hagerty is the way to go here in the U.S. 1972 442 Convertible cost $200/year as long as it was driven less than 5k miles/year. $15k stated value too.

They know Classic owners are careful drivers.
Posted by: Calm Mentor
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My agent is a Hagerty agent...perhaps most are. At any rate, every time I stop by to see him (we're friends) there will be multiple Hagerty papers on his desk.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2019 12:09 AM (YvUf/)

400 no, i have NO idea what happened to my nick @ January 06, 2019 12:01 AM (zJ7J0)

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 06, 2019 12:09 AM (zJ7J0)

401 Yeah YK5, like that, only with a screwdriver handle and less oooomph.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 12:09 AM (md3fh)

402 Heh. I do not recall ever having to deal with a stoplight switch on a vintage-ish car. Were pressure switches common?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 05, 2019 11:58 PM (U2TY5)

Practically universal at one time. Harley-Davidson used them, too. 1/8" male pipe thread on the hydraulic end, a pair of male bullet connectors on the other end. Still made in the thousands.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 12:10 AM (nPGq2)

403 Which reminds me, I have to buy a new battery for it on Monday. Not looking forward to that, they've gotten sorta pricey here lately.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy
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FWIW, my last Interstate lasted for 7 years.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2019 12:10 AM (YvUf/)

404 If you had never taken the battery across a state line it would have lasted even longer no doubt.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 12:11 AM (md3fh)

405 Two more years and my S-10 will be a legal classic.
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What year model, and what state?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2019 12:11 AM (YvUf/)

406 Posted by: empire1 at January 05, 2019 09:58 PM (1mtzZ)

Sorry empire1, just saw this. Looks like Inspector Cussword saw your earlier post and answered at the end of the game thread. We'd definitely love to have you join us.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 06, 2019 12:12 AM (uquGJ)

407 Which song speaks most to the concept of alienation?

Misfits by the Kinks
Feel Like a Number by Bob Seger
On the Outside by Oingo Boingo

Posted by: Newb


Dude, no Nilsson?

youtube.com/watch?v=haT8g7oKnns

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 06, 2019 12:12 AM (ZejZP)

408 @395
They were pretty trouble free, only thing I ever encountered was the occasional leak.

The switch had a bakelite/aluminum body crimped together. Never understood how they sealed the two together, either.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 06, 2019 12:13 AM (S/hVx)

409 Yep. Hagerty is the way to go here in the U.S. 1972 442 Convertible cost $200/year as long as it was driven less than 5k miles/year. $15k stated value too.

They know Classic owners are careful drivers.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 06, 2019 12:05 AM (ffYR/)

That's who I deal with, for cars both here and in Canada.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 12:13 AM (nPGq2)

410 and "singing", not "dinging"....

stupid fingers and keyboards designed for people with small hands and finger.

looking at you, Marco!

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 06, 2019 12:13 AM (zJ7J0)

411 The United States Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act of 1998, which
extended the term of copyright by 20 years, was named in honor of Bono
when it was passed by Congress nine months after his death.

Hack. Ptooie.

Posted by: GWB at January 06, 2019 12:13 AM (tbBeG)

412 Which song speaks most to the concept of alienation?

Misfits by the Kinks
Feel Like a Number by Bob Seger
On the Outside by Oingo Boingo

Posted by: Newb
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Whipping Post

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2019 12:14 AM (Ou6XS)

413 Too bad Brazilian president Jair Bolsonaro looks like Carl Sagan though.

But by firing the leftists in government he's going to save the country billions and billions, so it all works out.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at January 06, 2019 12:14 AM (0bu2O)

414


used to have a Sunbeam Tiger, a British sports car with a Ford V-8,


A Maxwell Smart-mobile.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 06, 2019 12:14 AM (HaL55)

415 Too bad Brazilian president Jair Bolsonaro looks like Carl Sagan though.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 06, 2019 12:07 AM (mUa7G)

Billions and billions of Brazilians....

Posted by: Miklos, moderately pro MERCOSUR at January 06, 2019 12:15 AM (zCyNd)

416 Correctomundo, BB. His was Italian red. Mine was BRG.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 12:16 AM (md3fh)

417 The switch had a bakelite/aluminum body crimped together. Never understood how they sealed the two together, either.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 06, 2019 12:13 AM (S/hVx)

Crimp and rubber seals, I guess. People who use silicone brake fluid have reported a high rate of failure with these switches (in general, not necessarily the one linked below).

https://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/63070/10002/-1

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 12:17 AM (nPGq2)

418

MH, '91 (purchased in the summer of '90 though) and the FLaccid State. 248K miles. 4.3 Tahoe.

If she could talk, I'd be in jail right now.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 06, 2019 12:18 AM (HaL55)

419 The switch had a bakelite/aluminum body crimped together. Never understood how they sealed the two together, either.
Posted by: irongrampa
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Well, I've had weepy oil pressure senders. One kind of drove me nuts. It would just emit slow drops, which fell directly onto the catalytic converter.

Every day on my in to work, just about the time I passed a McDonald's about a mile or so from home, I would detect the smell of coking oil as the cat got hot. For some while I thought it was the McDonald's.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2019 12:19 AM (2kj6M)

420

Which song speaks most to the concept of alienation?



Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft
by Klaatu (and the Carpenters).

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 06, 2019 12:20 AM (HaL55)

421 A Maxwell Smart-mobile.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 06, 2019 12:14 AM (HaL55)

Did he drive the Tiger, or the look-alike Alpine, with the 4-cylinder engine? Tiger was really a customized Alpine. A "tuner car" in today's parlance.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 12:20 AM (nPGq2)

422 Weren't the Tigers 265's? Or was there a 289? My recollection is that the footwell was tiny, the V8 taking up more lateral room than the car had originally been designed for.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2019 12:22 AM (2kj6M)

423 Love the Kinks, thank you for sharing that Misfit song I forgot about, classic rock music.
Sonny RIP

Posted by: Summer of Love at January 06, 2019 12:22 AM (FJrl0)

424

Ruthless, you mean Speeding Ticket Red?


BRG was considered an unlucky color for a while. Not sure why.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 06, 2019 12:22 AM (HaL55)

425 Smart drove a Tiger. It was identical to the Tiger except for the drive train. The Tiger had a Ford 260, and later a Ford 289. The cars were about the size of a full-sized bathtub. The shift points I used were to 50 in first, to 75 in second, to 100 in third and then drop it into fourth and it would shove you back in your seat. Only done late at night when the Bears were asleep. It is a wonder I survived my youth.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 12:23 AM (md3fh)

426

I'm pretty sure it was an Alpine. May have to do some more exhaustive Intarwebz searching.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 06, 2019 12:24 AM (HaL55)

427 Never heard the BRG was bad luck thing. I wonder if they still use any of those racing colors. Blue was French, Silver was German, and I think Yellow was Spain if I recall correctly.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 12:24 AM (md3fh)

428 The Tiger had a Ford 260
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*slaps forehead*

422 "265". Duh.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2019 12:24 AM (U2TY5)

429 Weren't the Tigers 265's? Or was there a 289? My recollection is that the footwell was tiny, the V8 taking up more lateral room than the car had originally been designed for.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2019 12:22 AM (2kj6M)

I think they started with the 260 Fairlane engine, but the 289 and 302 are the same physical size, and one of the narrower small-block V8's of the era.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 12:25 AM (nPGq2)

430

OK. I'm back. He drove a red 1965 Sunbeam Tiger.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 06, 2019 12:26 AM (HaL55)

431

Never had problems with the Runner brake system, I use DOT4 and change it every 2 years, and we're leak free thus far.

Can't say the same for the water pumps, and I buy new.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 06, 2019 12:26 AM (S/hVx)

432 ...identical to the Alpine...
Pretty sure Smart had a Tiger although he may have had an Alpine in the beginning. The actor, whatshisname, actually owned the car(s) in question I believe.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 12:26 AM (md3fh)

433 Yeah, I had a 1965 BRG. I think in 1967 they went to the 289. IIRC, the same engines were used in Mustangs in those years.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 12:28 AM (md3fh)

434

I knew a young lady who had a red Sunbeam in HS. Loved that car, she was kinda cute, too.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 06, 2019 12:28 AM (HaL55)

435 Link to bad luck green:

https://www.trusteddealers.co.uk/fun/a-darker-shade-of-racing-green/

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 12:28 AM (nPGq2)

436 My favorite such, by far, and I still lust for one, Griffith TVR 400

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yatzxan7

http://tinyurl.com/yaseae6f

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2019 12:30 AM (U2TY5)

437 Concept of alienation

For a modern cut - Pick up the Pieces by Joe Bonamassa is also pretty good.

As is Rock n Roll Cowboys by Ray Davies on his Americana album.

Posted by: Newb at January 06, 2019 12:33 AM (OFRmI)

438 When I was still a kid at home my father bought a French car called a Simca. I think Chrysler was importing them for a couple of years. This was around 1959. It had seats that folded down completely flat to make the entire inside of the car like a queen sized bed. This came in handy for me on more than one occasion. Gotta hand it to the French.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 12:33 AM (md3fh)

439 I remember seeing a TVR when I was at university. Vancouver, Canada had a lot of British cars, and other more exotic imports. I saw an NSU Ro-80 at the then-dealership.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 12:34 AM (nPGq2)

440

I would accept ownership of a British car, IF the maintenance was performed by someone else.

I despise working on them.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 06, 2019 12:35 AM (S/hVx)

441 I saw Random Rectal Items open for the Sex Pistols at Madison Square Garden in '79.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 06, 2019 12:36 AM (Hx3Yn)

442 I hate fucking British cars.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 12:36 AM (md3fh)

443 It had seats that folded down completely flat to make the entire inside of the car like a queen sized bed. This came in handy for me on more than one occasion. Gotta hand it to the French.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 12:33 AM (md3fh)

Gee, I wonder where they got that idea?


http://blog.modernmechanix.com/nash-airliner-reclining-seats/

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 12:37 AM (nPGq2)

444 Time to try that surprise anal on my wife, wish me luck! Or I could just go to bed and put my arm around her and have her be receptive or tell me to go to sleep and wait for morning.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at January 06, 2019 12:37 AM (Ct8k6)

445 I hate fucking British cars.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 12:36 AM (md3fh)

(mandatory) Then stop fucking them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 12:38 AM (nPGq2)

446 But those little tight tailpipes are so enticing...

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 12:39 AM (md3fh)

447 I hate fucking British cars.
Posted by: Ruthless
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Oui, they suck.

Posted by: French car at January 06, 2019 12:39 AM (/dN1M)

448

My favorite such, by far, and I still lust for one, Griffith TVR 400


Nice choice. Those things are tiny and with a 289 I bet you couldn't keep the rear end hooked up. Very nice.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 06, 2019 12:39 AM (HaL55)

449 AOP: I'm not a fan of "snake oils" but there is one that works well in older cars. It sounds like snake oil - Marvel's Mystery Oil. Run it in both the gas and oil according to the instructions on the can. Maybe you know this already. Old engines are plagued with gummed up rings, stuck lifters, varnish from stale fuel etc.
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I probably don't want to know the answer. But it seems to me that the ... apparatus imvolved is designed to expel ... stuff. So how is it things get captured so to speak? That's gotta be about the dumbest goddamned thing I've ever heard of though.

Does ObieCare have a line item # for that? "Foreign Objects Stuffed In Rectum"

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 12:41 AM (/czxp)

450 The other day I spied an MGC-GT in a parking lot. Mostly survivor. A bit tatty here and there.

Posted by: French car at January 06, 2019 12:41 AM (YvUf/)

451

My car had the power of 600 thoroughbred horses.
Would you believe it, 600 horses!

Posted by: Maxwell Smart at January 06, 2019 12:42 AM (aKsyK)

452

Maxwell Smart = Don Adams.
And thanks for the BRG link, AOP. That's about what I guessed.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 06, 2019 12:42 AM (HaL55)

453 . Old engines are plagued with gummed up rings, stuck lifters, varnish from stale fuel etc.
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I rely on those things to stay the oil leaks.

Posted by: French car at January 06, 2019 12:43 AM (YvUf/)

454 Marvel Mystery Oil has been around for a long time. Yes you would add it to the oil and the gas. It was very thick, like molasses. I have not used it for years, but I put a can of Seafoam through my gas tank every few thousand miles.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 12:43 AM (md3fh)

455 442 I hate fucking British cars.
Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 12:36 AM (md3fh)


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Bad tailpipe feel?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 06, 2019 12:44 AM (TREid)

456 try that surprise anal on my wife, wish me luck! Or I could just go to bed and put my arm around her and have her be receptive or tell me to go to sleep and wait for morning.
Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at J



let everyone know how that goes. guessing that there is much surprise when you spend ten minutes wrestling her into right hold then getting it in. guessing they usually figure out what is going on in the first minute or so.

the only surprise would be if she said "fine, get it over with so I can go back to bed."

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2019 12:45 AM (MTjB1)

457 Nice choice. Those things are tiny and with a 289 I bet you couldn't keep the rear end hooked up. Very nice.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy
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Passed up a nice one about 10 years ago, $17,000.

Just didn't have the 17K to spend on a hobby car.

Posted by: French car at January 06, 2019 12:45 AM (YvUf/)

458 I just love some of the questions on Quora.

"Are there any salad bars in Texas?"

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 06, 2019 12:45 AM (miE9U)

459 Ugh.

Sheds 2CV sock

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2019 12:45 AM (YvUf/)

460 Also, we got some rain tonight (complete with thunder/lighting) here in SoCal, so of course everyone's cell phones are shrieking every couple minutes with public flash flood alerts.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 06, 2019 12:46 AM (miE9U)

461

I think the worst thing about British cars is Lucas Electrical. THAT shit i have had experience with. It's total garbage.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 06, 2019 12:48 AM (S/hVx)

462 Allah must have something against California. First it burns, then it's mud slides and floods, then it burns again, rinse and repeat. Throw in an occasional earthquake and it's a wonder there's anything left out there.
Maybe Allah is onto something.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 12:49 AM (md3fh)

463 Guy inserts Mickey Mouse. Gets letter from Dizney.

Posted by: Burger Chef at January 06, 2019 12:50 AM (RuIsu)

464 I think the worst thing about British cars is Lucas Electrical. THAT shit i have had experience with. It's total garbage.
Posted by: irongrampa
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Another reason I never flew on the Concorde. Lucas avionics.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2019 12:50 AM (HTHlp)

465 Socialism brought the worst POS car to the people, except they couldn't get one, at least not right away. The Trabant. A three cylinder, 2 stroke engine, like the old LawnBoy mowers, ya had to mix oil and gas together. The body was made of a type of "fiberglass" made of compressed wool and cardboard. Colors were puke green, baby shit green, and the like.

You had to apply to buy one. It took years, so the custom was to apply in the babies name when born. Eventually, the word came down "Go get your car". After all this time, you had to pay right away, or lose your privilege of buying such a finely crafted machine, so it was also customary to borrow money from relatives. This is the society that Socialism cultivates. Mediocrity and mind numbing bureacracy, run by idiots. If we had a real press in this country, or a real opposition party, the leftists wouldn't have a chance. The universities and education types being infiltrated by true believers doesn't help.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 12:51 AM (/czxp)

466 Mike, that's why all the Concorde flight attendants have to know how to use a soldering iron :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 06, 2019 12:51 AM (miE9U)

467 Ruthless, it's like living on a thrill ride!! All the time!! :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 06, 2019 12:52 AM (miE9U)

468 Then try help@pixymisa.com, the host server of the main and comments portion of the site.

***


That email bounced back as well saying the mailbox is full

Posted by: 18-1 at January 06, 2019 12:53 AM (cRkMZ)

469 The Trabie was East German Communism's answer to the Nazi Socialist Volkswagen. Give the peasants something to drive to the slave mines.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 12:54 AM (md3fh)

470 AOP: I'm not a fan of "snake oils" but there is one that works well in older cars. It sounds like snake oil - Marvel's Mystery Oil. Run it in both the gas and oil according to the instructions on the can. Maybe you know this already. Old engines are plagued with gummed up rings, stuck lifters, varnish from stale fuel etc.
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Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 12:41 AM (/czxp)

I am well aware of MMO, and don't dismiss it out of hand. This engine is not "old" in that sense. It's one I built a couple of years ago, and hauled down here to put into this car. It had already had a '63 engine put in it by the previous owner, years ago. That engine was seized up solid when I got the car. So I dug around in my collection of old engines and parts, and resolved to do the best "farmer fix" that I could. I had a crank that miked out OK for standard bearings, and I had a set of standard bearing with very light wear on them. Plast-gaged them, and they were just within limits. Found a block with standard bores without a bad ridge. Reamed what little ridge there was, and honed the cylinders well. Picked the best 6 pistons I could find, and the best used rings I could find. Each ring, I used a fine drum sander on a Dremel tool to break the glaze on the wear surface. Found an uncracked head, and selected valves, and cleaned them up, and lapped them to the seats with valve grinding compound. Used a new head gasket, and all new steel frost plugs, and a rebuilt water pump. The engine ran fine on my test stand, and had good compression.

I don't know if those rings will ever seat, but I think they will. What will happen is that engine will "wear out" in less than 20,000 miles, but in the light use that this car will get, that could be decades.

And I can always build a better engine.But the car goes down the road, right now.

But the current engine is real clean inside. The one thing I didn't stint on was cleaning it thoroughly, inside and out.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 12:54 AM (nPGq2)

471

Allah must have something against California. First it burns, then it's
mud slides and floods, then it burns again, rinse and repeat. Throw in
an occasional earthquake and it's a wonder there's anything left out
there.
Maybe Allah is onto something.


We should send them some alligators.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 06, 2019 12:55 AM (HaL55)

472 Mike, that's why all the Concorde flight attendants have to know how to use a soldering iron :-P
Posted by: qdpsteve
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...and serve warm beer.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2019 12:56 AM (2qPhT)

473 Since Democrats have been falling all over themselves in approving calling Trump a motherfucker I happily joined in in calling them the same and giving them hearty FU's.

Sadly now the sewer that is Twitter has banned me unless I undergo a proctologist exam. Sad

Posted by: torabora at January 06, 2019 12:56 AM (DJUf0)

474 Yeah, the alligators could eat the illegal aliens. Win win.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 12:57 AM (md3fh)

475 "Marvel Mystery Oil has been around for a long time. Yes you would add it to the oil and the gas. It was very thick, like molasses."
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No, it's a very light machine oil with penetrating fluid (wintergreen oil). A clock repair guy I know uses it. He says mix enough mystery oil in Mobil 1 "just enough to make it pink" and you've a fine clock oil that wont gum up.

In engines it dissolves gum and varnish. If you're a real MMO nutcase, you install a vapor lubricator plumbed under the carburetor, and engine vacuum pulls a small amount constantly into the manifold.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 12:57 AM (/czxp)

476 Then try help@pixymisa.com, the host server of the main and comments portion of the site.

***
That email bounced back as well saying the mailbox is full
Posted by: 18-1 at January 06, 2019 12:53 AM (cRkMZ)

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Dude. I can not solve this for you. Look to the weekend specialty threads for Cob interaction. Time for you nut up and get this resolved yourself. Use those emails. I am done here.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at January 06, 2019 01:00 AM (ffYR/)

477 They must have changed MMO then, because back in the 60s when I used it, it was like honey, unless I am completely misremembering which is always possible. I met a guy once in a bar who was the son-in-law of the MMO company founder and worked as sales manager and he spent an hour telling me the many wonderful advantages of that sterling product.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 01:01 AM (md3fh)

478 Then there's the Magical Mystery Tour Oil... :-P
a/k/a "the brown acid"

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 06, 2019 01:02 AM (miE9U)

479 I don't know if I would be up for mixing MMO and Mobil 1 for clock oil, when you can probably buy a bottle of actual clock oil for less than the cost of a quart of Mobil 1.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 01:03 AM (nPGq2)

480

They must have changed MMO then, because back in the 60s when I used it, it was like honey...

STP was like that.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 06, 2019 01:05 AM (HaL55)

481 They must have changed MMO then, because back in the 60s when I used it, it was like honey, unless I am completely misremembering which is always possible. I met a guy once in a bar who was the son-in-law of the MMO company founder and worked as sales manager and he spent an hour telling me the many wonderful advantages of that sterling product.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 01:01 AM (md3fh)

STP was the thick honey-like stuff, and they had some competing products that were similar. One was even called "Motor Honey".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 01:05 AM (nPGq2)

482 > They must have changed MMO then, because back in the 60s when I used it, it was like honey...

STP was like that.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 06, 2019 01:05 AM (HaL55)


Same with whale oil.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 06, 2019 01:06 AM (t+qrx)

483 18-1, what do you expect of a website that has a sidebar full of links to blogs that haven't been around for a decade or longer? Some of them date back to the Spanish-American war as I recall, which is probably why this is called a smart military blog. (Remember the Maine!) It was originally distributed by smoke signal, then through the telegraph lines, but has now embraced late 20th Century technology as exemplified by that marvel of engineering the dial-up modem.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 01:06 AM (md3fh)

484 @ 470

If you got good compression the ring seating has already happened. Only thing to be concerned about is that the oil control rings do their job along with the valve seals.

You'd be amazed at how tolerant engines can be. Presuming the assembly was clean, that engine will live for many miles.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 06, 2019 01:06 AM (S/hVx)

485 Never heard the BRG was bad luck thing. I wonder if
they still use any of those racing colors. Blue was French, Silver was
German, and I think Yellow was Spain if I recall correctly.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 12:24 AM (md3fh)
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RBG, on the other hand, is definitely bad luck.

especialyl if you love freedom.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 06, 2019 01:07 AM (zJ7J0)

486

Steve, soldering iron story? Sorry tl;dr, also im lazy shite...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at January 06, 2019 01:08 AM (UFLLM)

487 It does work as advertised. Everybody is skeptical, and rightly so, of snake oils. But for old engines that have sat for a long time, it can really straighten things out. Old stale gasoline turns to varnish and can also wreak havoc, stuck lifters and valves means bent pushrods. The old recip aviation guys used to buy it by the drum. I think SeaFoam is basically the same thing, but I haven't tried it for that.

AOP, do you have an ignition oscilloscope? That's my newest favorite tool. Took me a little while to get up to speed with it, but they work really well for finding trouble.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 01:09 AM (/czxp)

488 STP was like that.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy
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'Motor Honey'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2019 01:10 AM (Ou6XS)

489 If you got good compression the ring seating has already happened. Only thing to be concerned about is that the oil control rings do their job along with the valve seals.

You'd be amazed at how tolerant engines can be. Presuming the assembly was clean, that engine will live for many miles.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 06, 2019 01:06 AM (S/hVx)

IIRC, I used new umbrella valve seals because I had them. If I used old ones, they would have had to be still supple and flexible, or I would not have used them.

It could take a while for the oil rings, which are the 3-piece kind, to seat.

If weather permits tomorrow, I will take it for a longer drive. I doubt the engine has a full hour on it, yet.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 01:11 AM (nPGq2)

490 Silver was a really bad luck color at the '55 LeMans.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2019 01:12 AM (2qPhT)

491 Ruth Bader Ginzberg is not a car color. She is an Alzheimer patient who lives in the DC area and often wears a black robe. She works out for three hours in the gym doing 300 lb. dead drop lifts while dictating legal opinions. Her reputation for bad luck is based on the fact that whenever her associates see her coming they mutter to each other, "here comes bad luck." She is also the spirit animal for the Bader-Meinhof terrorist organization and believes the US Constitution should be replaced by the South African one.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 01:12 AM (md3fh)

492 Pour 1 can brake fluid into gas rank.
What whappens?
1) destroy engine
2) clean fuel system

Posted by: Coffee Fanatic at January 06, 2019 01:12 AM (bE2ic)

493 AOP, do you have an ignition oscilloscope? That's my newest favorite tool. Took me a little while to get up to speed with it, but they work really well for finding trouble.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 01:09 AM (/czxp)

I think I have three of them! The only one that I have actually used is a little Heathkit one, and it works just fine. I agree they can be very useful.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 01:14 AM (nPGq2)

494 No, it's my understanding bespoke "clock oil" is expensive. Although it probably goes a long way. Mobil 1 synthetic is pretty common in horological circles. Marvel's is just the stuff for air tools, for reasons I don't understand. It has quite a few uses.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 01:15 AM (/czxp)

495 pixy / mu.nu e-mail addys

try "pixy AT mu period nu period com"

or "andrew period maizels AT the google e-mail suffix"

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 06, 2019 01:15 AM (zJ7J0)

496 @ 488

I use STP during engine assembly on any bearings, lifter bodies, pushrod ends, rocker shafts and the like. Especially if the engine is going to sit for a while before starting. I'm not a fan of dry starting.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 06, 2019 01:15 AM (S/hVx)

497 You'd be amazed at how tolerant engines can be. Presuming the assembly was clean, that engine will live for many miles.
Posted by: irongrampa
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I have an *aged* Snapper tiller, with an aluminum bore Briggs 5 hp engine. I can't feel *any* compression when I crank it...and yet it runs and makes acceptable power. Upside, chokes the local mosquitoes. I'm amazed that I haven't had to put in a clean plug in two years.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2019 01:16 AM (2qPhT)

498

'Motor Honey'

Yep, I recall that stuff too. We had a sales rep from the Pennzoil company come to my HS machine shop class and 'splain how and why their motor oil was superior to everyone else's. It worked. We all bought some.
Oh and I just remembered something else: I think it was Chevy that had a traveling car show when I was a real Boy that had movies and displays of cutaway transmissions and other mechanical stuff like that there. Does anyone remember what they were called? I tried looking them up, but can't remember the name. Seems like I went to a couple of them.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 06, 2019 01:17 AM (HaL55)

499
If weather permits tomorrow, I will take it for a longer drive. I doubt the engine has a full hour on it, yet.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 01:11 AM (nPGq2)

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pro tip: do loops close to home, just in case.

either you can get back or the towing charges will be minimal.

you're welcome!


Posted by: redc1c4 at January 06, 2019 01:19 AM (zJ7J0)

500
I use STP during engine assembly on any bearings, lifter bodies, pushrod ends, rocker shafts and the like. Especially if the engine is going to sit for a while before starting. I'm not a fan of dry starting.
Posted by: irongrampa
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I pretty much massage everything with molybdenum assembly grease, especially pistons and aluminum cam bearings.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2019 01:19 AM (Ou6XS)

501 Pour 1 can brake fluid into gas rank.
What whappens?
1) destroy engine
2) clean fuel system

Posted by: Coffee Fanatic at January 06, 2019 01:12 AM (bE2ic)

Dot 3, which is alcohol/glycol based, might dissolve a little gum, and burn off. It would not be my choice of fuel system cleaner.

Dot 5, which is silicone, might burn, partially, in the cylinders, and leave a deposit of silicon dioxide, which is very abrasive, and could destroy an engine. I believe there have been instances of engines being destroyed after sucking silicone brake fluid into themselves by way of the vacuum brake booster.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 01:19 AM (nPGq2)

502 So I seem to still be banned on my other computer. How do I get unbanned?
Posted by: 18-1 at January 05, 2019 11:04 PM (cRkMZ)

E-mail help@mu.nu, Pixy should get back to you in about a week or two, if that doesn't work, e-mail Ace at the address he put in the left Sidebar.

Posted by: Surfperch at January 06, 2019 01:20 AM (tVQUs)

503 Yeah, that's what I bought a Heathkit. They were a great company. I had no idea how much stuff they made, all of it kits. From oscilloscopes, to ham radio transceivers, fish finders, and engine analyzers, stereo amplifiers, really high quality stuff actually. Anyway I didn't really understand the pattern squiggles at first, but I could tell enough that it showed in about 10 seconds there was a major problem with the ignition system. Also shows problems like distributor cam wobble.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 01:20 AM (/czxp)

504 So I seem to still be banned on my other computer. How do I get unbanned?
Posted by: 18-1 at January 05, 2019 11:04 PM (cRkMZ)

E-mail help@mu.nu, Pixy should get back to you in about a week or two, if that doesn't work, e-mail Ace at the address he put in the left Sidebar.
Posted by: Surfperch at January 06, 2019 01:20 AM (tVQUs)

Posted by: Surfperch at January 06, 2019 01:21 AM (KTJxj)

505 E-mail help@mu.nu, Pixy should get back to you in about a week or two, if that doesn't work, e-mail Ace at the address he put in the left Sidebar.
Posted by: Surfperch at J



when you have gone without someone answering your email this long there is really only one thing you can do. give yourself surprise anal.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2019 01:21 AM (MTjB1)

506 That's odd, I accidentally posted with WiFi on and it hasn't vanished yet.

Posted by: Surfperch at January 06, 2019 01:22 AM (KTJxj)

507 Also shows problems like distributor cam wobble.
Posted by: Common Tater
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*?*

Posted by: Contemporary 'mechanic' at January 06, 2019 01:22 AM (Ou6XS)

508
E-mail help@mu.nu, Pixy should get back to you in about a week or two, if that doesn't work, e-mail Ace at the address he put in the left Sidebar.
Posted by: Surfperch at January 06, 2019 01:20 AM (tVQUs)
Posted by: Surfperch
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Spread goat entrails on your keyboard, while muttering incantations.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2019 01:24 AM (U2TY5)

509 E-mail help@mu.nu, Pixy should get back to you in about a week or two, if that doesn't work, e-mail Ace at the address he put in the left Sidebar.
Posted by: Surfperch at J

when you have gone without someone answering your email this long there is really only one thing you can do. give yourself surprise anal.
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2019 01:21 AM (MTjB1)

Pixy replies within 48 hours of you e-mailing him, but takes another week to actually unban you.

Posted by: Surfperch at January 06, 2019 01:25 AM (KTJxj)

510 No, it's my understanding bespoke "clock oil" is expensive. Although it probably goes a long way. Mobil 1 synthetic is pretty common in horological circles. Marvel's is just the stuff for air tools, for reasons I don't understand. It has quite a few uses.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 01:15 AM (/czxp)

I looked. Amazon has synthetic clock oil for $8.79 a bottle (about an ounce). Some more expensive stuff was $25 per bottle.

If I were doing an heirloom or highly-prized clock, I would buy at least a decent-quality recognized clock oil.

Or squeeze a whale.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 01:25 AM (nPGq2)

511 E-mail help@analeuroboyhardcore.com, Pixy should get back to you in about a week or two, if that doesn't work, e-mail Ace at the address he put in the left Sidebar.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2019 01:25 AM (MTjB1)

512 When I was a kid we built a Heathkit color TV and an amplifier for listening to 78s. Easy instructions, fun and saved a bundle over buying ready made items.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 01:26 AM (md3fh)

513 E-mail help@fuckedbyatrannyagainandagain.com, Pixy should get back to you in about a week or two, if that doesn't work, e-mail Ace at the address he put in the left Sidebar.
Posted by: yankeefifth at J

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2019 01:26 AM (MTjB1)

514 E-mail help@motheluuuuvers.com, Pixy should get back to you in about a week or two, if that doesn't work, e-mail Ace at the address he put in the left Sidebar.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2019 01:28 AM (MTjB1)

515

I miss working on vehicle components that you actually can test, disassemble and FIX instead of replacing.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 06, 2019 01:28 AM (S/hVx)

516 E-mail help@analeuroboyhardcore.com, Pixy should get back to you in about a week or two, if that doesn't work, e-mail Ace at the address he put in the left Sidebar.
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2019 01:25 AM (MTjB1)

analeuroboyhardcore.com sounds like my kind of site!

Posted by: Shep Smith at January 06, 2019 01:28 AM (KTJxj)

517 ixy replies within 48 hours of you e-mailing him, but takes another week to actually unban you.
Posted by: Surfperch at J



so you are saying no self surprise anal?

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2019 01:28 AM (MTjB1)

518 Goodnight all, thanks for the fun chat tonight.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 06, 2019 01:28 AM (miE9U)

519 Someone has bought the Heath name, and is trying to give a go, again.
https://shop.heathkit.com/shop

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2019 01:29 AM (U2TY5)

520 Well that was my point, the professionals are using Mobil 1 and Marvel's, not "clock oil" as such.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 01:29 AM (/czxp)

521 E-mail help@fuckedbyatrannyagainandagain.com, Pixy should get back to you in about a week or two, if that doesn't work, e-mail Ace at the address he put in the left Sidebar.
Posted by: yankeefifth at J
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2019 01:26 AM (MTjB1)

fuckedbyatrannyagainandagain.com sounds like my kind of site!

Posted by: Bathhouse Barry at January 06, 2019 01:30 AM (KTJxj)

522 Goodnight all, thanks for the fun chat tonight.
Posted by: qdpsteve at J

guessing that traffic at one of those three sites is about to increase by one.


/

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2019 01:30 AM (MTjB1)

523 Oh my, look at the time! Once again the ONT has stolen a precious evening, one I could have spent reading trash, looking at porn or having a few too many cocktails. Well here comes the checkered flag and I'm letting up on the throttle to wheel this tired old thing to bed. G'nite all.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2019 01:31 AM (md3fh)

524 I miss working on vehicle components that you actually can test, disassemble and FIX instead of replacing.
Posted by: irongrampa
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Just rebuilt a PS pump a while back, for '78 Olds.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2019 01:31 AM (2kj6M)

525 Yeah, that's what I bought a Heathkit. They were a great company. I had no idea how much stuff they made, all of it kits. From oscilloscopes, to ham radio transceivers, fish finders, and engine analyzers, stereo amplifiers, really high quality stuff actually. Anyway I didn't really understand the pattern squiggles at first, but I could tell enough that it showed in about 10 seconds there was a major problem with the ignition system. Also shows problems like distributor cam wobble.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 01:20 AM (/czxp)

What you are looking for is uniformity in the shape of the squiggles, and uniformity in the space between them.

The bigger service-station scopes had a neat feature: a knob that would let you "kill" each cylinder in turn, while you watched the big tachometer, and looked for the RPM drop. Some had a tach calibrated in "percent" for that purpose. A cylinder that had bad rings or a bad valve would show less (or none) RPM drop, because it wasn't pulling its share of the load.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 01:31 AM (nPGq2)

526

Spread goat entrails on your keyboard, while muttering incantations.

No, no, no. You have to sacrifice a virgin to the Sun God while feeding the hamsters Purina Hamster Chow with a silver spoon. Individually.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 06, 2019 01:32 AM (HaL55)

527 has there ever been a virgin, well female virgin, at the hq?

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2019 01:33 AM (MTjB1)

528 I saw that (Heath) and they have some cool stuff.

When ignition analyzers were a thing in the 50s and 60s professional units were several hundred dollars, a lot of money in those days. Even the Heathkit was about $80 or $90, which would have bought a decent used car then. So they were kind of expensive. I paid $40, a bargain.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 01:33 AM (/czxp)

529 Pixy replies within 48 hours of you e-mailing him, but takes another week to actually unban you.
Posted by: Surfperch at J

so you are saying no self surprise anal?
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2019 01:28 AM (MTjB1)

Actually, If you e-mail Ace, Maetenloch will respond after three weeks saying that he's unbanned you (usually several days Pixy has acted). So make of that what you will...

Posted by: Self Surprise Surfperch at January 06, 2019 01:34 AM (KTJxj)

530 so have click and clack officially replaced slap and tickle as the ont mascots?

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2019 01:37 AM (MTjB1)

531 Goodnight Ruthless.

Posted by: Surfperch at January 06, 2019 01:37 AM (KTJxj)

532 Those ankle monitors are triggering.

Posted by: Dallas Cowboys receiver Alan Hurns at January 06, 2019 01:38 AM (rqHtf)

533 Goodnight Ruthless.
Posted by: Surfperch at J



not sure that is appropriate. he decided not to go with porn and booze.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2019 01:39 AM (MTjB1)

534

This was car-geeky fun. And now it's bedtime for Bonzo.

Y'all try to behave.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 06, 2019 01:40 AM (HaL55)

535 Oh my, look at the time! Once again the ONT has stolen a precious evening, one I could have spent reading trash, looking at porn or having a few too many cocktails. Well here comes the checkered flag and I'm letting up on the throttle to wheel this tired old thing to bed. G'nite all.
Posted by: Ruthless at J




someone needs to explain to him how you can have more than one tab open in your browser.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2019 01:40 AM (MTjB1)

536 we also have to teach ruthless how to open the cup holder on his computer.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2019 01:40 AM (MTjB1)

537 Someone has bought the Heath name, and is trying to give a go, again.
https://shop.heathkit.com/shop

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2019 01:29 AM (U2TY5)

Well, they are going to have to up their game. An "Explorer" TRF radio for $149.95? And I have to learn to solder surface-mount devices? No thanks.

Half the fun of playing with stuff like that is trying different component values in circuits, or adding regeneration to a TRF receiver. One could do all that with vacuum tubes, or discrete transistors, for about a quarter of that money.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 01:40 AM (nPGq2)

538 Let's build a wall to keep Trump out of are county !!! Brattlebaro supports this and we be telling Senitor Sanders to supports this now !!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattlboro, VT at January 06, 2019 01:41 AM (qM84C)

539 so has mr. cloggenstein received the certificate we mailed to him. entitles him to surprise anal his wife once every week.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2019 01:43 AM (MTjB1)

540 When ignition analyzers were a thing in the 50s and 60s professional units were several hundred dollars, a lot of money in those days. Even the Heathkit was about $80 or $90, which would have bought a decent used car then. So they were kind of expensive. I paid $40, a bargain.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 01:33 AM (/czxp)

I think I paid $25 for mine at a garage sale, or maybe a farm auction. It was missing the induction pickup for #1 spark plug, so I cobbled in the one from my timing light, and it worked, perfectly.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 01:43 AM (nPGq2)

541 Right, I had a combination of problems. One, was the plug wires weren't up to the task. I replaced the points with Pertronix ignitor and a high output coil. The distributor rotors that are commonly available today were designed for the smog era, and have a huge gap between the terminals. This makes for a higher firing voltage. So the firing lines were showing this huge spike. The reason I bought the analyzer was in humid weather the wires were arcing to ground, the coil was arcing across the terminals, through the boots, everything. I found a rotor with a close gap, and replaced the plug wires, and the problem went away. Everybody knows about plug gaps but the rotor gap is also important. The firing line Kv went down considerably. It runs a lot better. I thought I had it running good, but the scope showed otherwise. Then I rebuilt the distributor with new bushing and shaft and the dwell wobble went away. Great tool to have.

There is a way to kill cylinders as you mention without fancy equipment, a kind of cylinder contribution test. Another involves running the engine on two (2) cylinders at a time in the right firing order, checking them all, I haven't tried it. Another great tool is the vacuum gauge. VERY useful for diagnostics and tuning.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 01:45 AM (/czxp)

542 Goodnight Ruthless.
Posted by: Surfperch at J

not sure that is appropriate. he decided not to go with porn and booze.
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 06, 2019 01:39 AM (MTjB1)

I assumed by "wheel this tired old thing to bed" he meant "going watch porn and get drunk".

Posted by: Surfperch at January 06, 2019 01:46 AM (KTJxj)

543 There is a way to kill cylinders as you mention without fancy equipment, a kind of cylinder contribution test. Another involves running the engine on two (2) cylinders at a time in the right firing order, checking them all, I haven't tried it. Another great tool is the vacuum gauge. VERY useful for diagnostics and tuning.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 01:45 AM (/czxp)

Sounds like you have great handle on that stuff. Good!

The service-station scopes have all that stuff under one roof, so to speak. The actual scope, a tachometer, a vacuum gauge, and usually an alternator/voltage regulator tester, and latterly, a tailpipe sniffer. So you do one hookup, and cover all the basics in one session. A money-maker for shops.

Nowadays, they just plug the scan tool into the data port, and download trouble codes that the car's ECM sees fit to remember.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 01:52 AM (nPGq2)

544 Time for the old folk. I could bore everyone to tears, recounting the adventures of 40 odd years of auto repairs, but I loved every moment of it.

So goodnite, good people. Be safe and sleep well.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 06, 2019 01:55 AM (S/hVx)

545 Nite, IG. You, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 01:56 AM (nPGq2)

546 Right, I got the impression the big Sun and Allen machines were pretty much required for the shops to have. It was a money maker to be sure, but it kept them from wasting time and throwing parts at it. Plus, you could show the customer - "here's your problem see this #5 plug wire is bad" and then recommend replacing them all.

I tried to look up what a Sun machine cost in the 40s and 50s, and found it difficult. I was told service stations didn't purchase them outright, but leased them. So they must have been pretty spendy. The distributor machines are useful too. For a while they were cheap, but they are hard to find at a decent price now.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 01:57 AM (/czxp)

547 Nite IG

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 01:59 AM (/czxp)

548 If the new Heathkit company wanted to make a popular product, they should hire an engineer to design an engine "scope" for older cars that could communicate with a laptop or a smart phone via Bluetooth (or a cable, even). With the right set of transducers/pickups, you could monitor ignition function, and timing, engine oil pressure, vacuum, and temperature, alternator output, and do all that going down the road under load.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 02:04 AM (nPGq2)

549 Right, I got the impression the big Sun and Allen machines were pretty much required for the shops to have. It was a money maker to be sure, but it kept them from wasting time and throwing parts at it. Plus, you could show the customer - "here's your problem see this #5 plug wire is bad" and then recommend replacing them all.

I tried to look up what a Sun machine cost in the 40s and 50s, and found it difficult. I was told service stations didn't purchase them outright, but leased them. So they must have been pretty spendy. The distributor machines are useful too. For a while they were cheap, but they are hard to find at a decent price now.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 01:57 AM (/czxp)

I have a Sun distributor machine, too. The new Sun and Allen scopes may have been leased, but the older ones could be purchased outright, I think. One of the best reasons for using them is that they reduced "come backs" by ensuring that the job was done right in the first place, and that things were not missed. Fewer dissatisfied customers is always good.

I keep these things in my own shop because they are cool toys in their own right, and I can derive some use from them. I don't expect to to use them to earn money. And my shop is partly a museum, of sorts.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 02:11 AM (nPGq2)

550 Scopes haven't gone away, but they are spendy (digital)

I kind of thought the same thing. An app for a smart phone. It would be pretty trivial probably. Just need a couple pickups, one for the coil wire, and #1 wire.

I like using old test equipment, and the old school iron often needs old school gear. Generators don't play well with digital VOM for example. The Heathkit has vacuum tubes, another hobby of mine is old radios and stereo gear. So it was a no brainer. I recapped the power supply electrolytics just to be safe, it works perfectly. Also had two pristine 12AX7s, which I swapped with the ones in my stereo tuner.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 02:11 AM (/czxp)

551 I like using old test equipment, and the old school iron often needs old school gear. Generators don't play well with digital VOM for example. The Heathkit has vacuum tubes, another hobby of mine is old radios and stereo gear. So it was a no brainer. I recapped the power supply electrolytics just to be safe, it works perfectly. Also had two pristine 12AX7s, which I swapped with the ones in my stereo tuner.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 02:11 AM (/czxp)

I laugh when I see somebody try to measure a slightly erratic value with a DVM. They are great for selecting matched components, so that R12 for the left channel is 10,278 ohms, and I can pick another at 10, 282 for the right channel.

But an analog meter is much better to read what your alternator or generator is putting out.

When I got to swap meets, flea markets, and garage sales, I am always on the lookout for automotive or electronic test equipment. I have a good selection of the latter, too. Signal generators, scopes, tube testers, VTVM's. Even some TV service tools, which I will probably never ever use.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 02:21 AM (nPGq2)

552 Then you'd understand - I think - the old gear smells better! I opened up the heathkit and took a whiff - Ahh!!! I don't know what it is exactly, but the 50s and 60s tube gear has a great aroma cracking the case open. The only thing better maybe is old Lionel locomotives. Ozone and machine oil. I have an old roll of Kester solder, the flux smells different than the new stuff. So I use it. Solder is something to pick up at yard sales. Since Rohs or whatever made lead solder go bye-bye it's gotten expensive. Course a roll lasts forever, still.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 02:30 AM (/czxp)

553 I think the worst thing about British cars is Lucas Electrical. THAT shit i have had experience with. It's total garbage.
Posted by: irongrampa at January 06, 2019 12:48 AM (S/hVx)

Lucas == Prince of Darkness

Posted by: Liv at January 06, 2019 02:30 AM (MwFQu)

554 But an analog meter is much better to read what your alternator or generator is putting out.

Nuclear plants figured this out. A lot of times in a control room, you aren't so interested in the absolute level of a reading as the change in the reading over time, and analog displays are much better for tracking changes over time than digital displays.

Posted by: The ARC of History at January 06, 2019 02:32 AM (I2/tG)

555 The only thing better maybe is old Lionel locomotives. Ozone and machine oil.

And smoke pellets for the steam engines. A proprietary compound they brought from a vendor.

Posted by: Fox2! at January 06, 2019 02:32 AM (MwFQu)

556 Then you'd understand - I think - the old gear smells better! I opened up the heathkit and took a whiff - Ahh!!! I don't know what it is exactly, but the 50s and 60s tube gear has a great aroma cracking the case open. The only thing better maybe is old Lionel locomotives. Ozone and machine oil. I have an old roll of Kester solder, the flux smells different than the new stuff. So I use it. Solder is something to pick up at yard sales. Since Rohs or whatever made lead solder go bye-bye it's gotten expensive. Course a roll lasts forever, still.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 02:30 AM (/czxp)

I hear you. Something about the dust baking off the hot vacuum tubes, too.

And yeah, I do make a point of snagging lead-based solder when I find it. The lead-free stuff is pathetic, and makes disassembling old boards made with it very difficult.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 02:41 AM (nPGq2)

557 "And smoke pellets for the steam engines. A proprietary compound they brought from a vendor."

I still have the steam engine that I got for Christmas when I was a wee lad. It uses Esbit fuel tabs, they have a certain smell too! Steam, oil, and Esbit. I think you mean the smoke tablets for the locomotives? I vaguely remember those...

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 02:43 AM (/czxp)

558 Nuclear plants figured this out. A lot of times in a control room, you aren't so interested in the absolute level of a reading as the change in the reading over time, and analog displays are much better for tracking changes over time than digital displays.

Posted by: The ARC of History at January 06, 2019 02:32 AM (I2/tG)

And these days, it's so easy to have both. It's interesting to note that digital speedometers for cars appeared briefly in the 1980's, and very quickly vanished from the scene.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 02:47 AM (nPGq2)

559 eBay - (I looked) has original bottles of Lionel smoke pellets, only $25. They also sell re-issue smoke pellets, but like most things these days, they probably don't work right. LOL

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 02:48 AM (/czxp)

560 I still have the steam engine that I got for Christmas when I was a wee lad. It uses Esbit fuel tabs, they have a certain smell too! Steam, oil, and Esbit. I think you mean the smoke tablets for the locomotives? I vaguely remember those...

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 02:43 AM (/czxp)

IIRC, one of the big names, Lionel, used smoke pellets or tablets, and their big competitor, American Flyer, used smoke liquid. And the locomotive had some sort of little piston pump in it that made tiny puffs of air to blow "smoke" out the stack. I think the smoke compound was propylene glycol, like they use for stage smoke at concerts, and uh, other venues. (and in vape pipes, too)

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 02:51 AM (nPGq2)

561 i thought Lucas was the Lord of Darkness...

i *really* regret discarding my Car and Driver magazine collection from the early/mid 70's

the writing was awesome.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 06, 2019 02:55 AM (zJ7J0)

562 And, my eyelids are getting real heavy, so I should call it a night. I see there are companies selling "Lab scopes" for automotive work that run in conjunction with a laptop, starting at about $1500. Which sounds reasonable for a tech who would use it to earn money, but is out of the question for a hobby guy like me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 02:57 AM (nPGq2)

563 Night, Horde. Really enjoyed the conversation tonight.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2019 02:58 AM (nPGq2)

564 G'nite AOP! Thanks

Posted by: Common Tater at January 06, 2019 03:03 AM (/czxp)

565 .

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2019 03:07 AM (/rm4P)

566 Had to get up, was hoping the Boys lost. Will give it a shot again next week.

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2019 03:11 AM (/rm4P)

567 Ok, no point in staying up.

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2019 03:18 AM (/rm4P)

568 Ok, no point in staying up.

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2019 03:18 AM (/rm4P)

---
that is what i am for, senor.

not to worry and sleep well.

Posted by: Paolo at January 06, 2019 03:28 AM (zJ7J0)

569 It's dead, Jim.

Posted by: Dr. Leonard McCoy at January 06, 2019 03:47 AM (VEGnk)

570 I'm calling it.

Posted by: Dr. Marcus Welby at January 06, 2019 03:48 AM (VEGnk)

571 This thread has a No Rescucitation affidavit.

Posted by: Dr. Marcus Welby at January 06, 2019 03:49 AM (VEGnk)

572 Sometimes dead is better ...

Posted by: Pet Semetary Insurance Salesman ... at January 06, 2019 04:09 AM (LPnfS)

573

Lionel? Never heard of 'em.

Posted by: Vendor of Arctur at January 06, 2019 04:37 AM (O74hG)

574 Good Morning.

The British army "snowflake" story left out "hand over the Malvinas."

And, once again, the ONT doesn't allow me to copy and paste, not even from the post at the top. Weird.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 06, 2019 04:39 AM (VaN/j)

575 Think I could sleep all morning

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2019 04:49 AM (/rm4P)

576
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 06, 2019 05:42 AM (KCxzN)

577
Wife said, in news about the government shutdown, that four dead bodies had been discovered at national parks the past week. Wait for it...




The usual average is six a week.

I kid you not, she was incredulous that they actually reported that.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 06, 2019 05:47 AM (jYje5)

578 As has probably already been said many times above, I see some essentials missing from that top Picture. 1- seat back too low for regular size (6 to7 feet tall)guy, 2- no cigar evident, 3- no puttertat, remote control or sammich.

Posted by: Eromero at January 06, 2019 05:49 AM (zLDYs)

579
39 degrees for the high in Chicago today, 37 degrees for the low. Chance of Fog Bowl #2?

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 06, 2019 05:50 AM (jYje5)

580 I am finally getting up

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2019 05:52 AM (/rm4P)

581 574
Good Morning.



The British army "snowflake" story left out "hand over the Malvinas."



And, once again, the ONT doesn't allow me to copy and paste, not even from the post at the top. Weird.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 06, 2019 04:39 AM (VaN/j)

Make sure your security software is not blocking AOS.

Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2019 05:53 AM (mpXpK)

582 EMT up

Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2019 05:58 AM (mpXpK)

583 579


39 degrees for the high in Chicago today, 37 degrees for the low. Chance of Fog Bowl #2?

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 06, 2019 05:50 AM (jYje5)

The last time I was in Chicago at this time of year the temps were running in the low single digits with the wind chill at -60F

Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2019 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

584 I built several Heathkit's while in college in NYC. All were transistor, and they are still working. Toughest thing was getting them home on the bus after I graduated. My FM/AM record player has a roll top and it needs repair, its on my list to. Replaced the needle last year, thanks to the internet.

Posted by: Colin at January 06, 2019 06:22 AM (76m/x)

585 Regarding the picture of the His/Her ankle bracelets, around here, those are known as "Irish Rolex's".

Posted by: Riddle at January 06, 2019 09:38 AM (jnI8v)

586 223 "tend to find movies with non-whites unwatchable, since they emit the foul stench of a politically correct agenda"

Try, no-shit, Tyler Perry movies, or other movies done by blacks intended for a black audience where whites won't go. "Barbershop" is another example.

They are *not* PC. They have their own problems, sure (there's a talent gap, much like in Christian movies). But they know their audience. And they can't run bullshit by that audience.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 05, 2019 10:59 PM (ykYG2)

I really like Tyler Perry movies. Madea cracks me up, and they have usually have a good values message and a diverse cast. Nothing wrong with that.

Posted by: Gem at January 06, 2019 11:04 AM (XoAz8)

587 There is a Sonny Bono Memorial Park in DC at the corner of 20th St. NW, New Hampshire Ave. NW and O St. NW, The park is just a plaque, some dirt, and some scrawny plants. The whole thing is smaller than my kitchen.

Posted by: RTW at January 06, 2019 12:18 PM (jJlJu)

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