EMT 12/23/18

EMT well, good morons.

I wish you all an early Merry Christmas.

Posted by: krakatoa at 06:00 AM

Comments

1 Good Morning Morons today is Sunday, December 23, 2018. On this day in 1913 the Federal Reserve Act was signed into law by President Woodrow Wilson, creating the Federal Reserve System. This was, and still is a huge mistake, but Hell it was passed when the communists had a majority in both houses and a communist President. But it has been 100 years or more and Republicans have never made an effort to undo this POS.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 05:58 AM (mpXpK)

2 Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2018 05:58 AM (/rm4P)

3 Shitty Schumer tells Trump to abandon the wall because they will prevent it from ever being funded in the Senate.

https://tinyurl.com/yatkkp2n

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 05:58 AM (mpXpK)

4 And speaking of asshole communists the newly elected, but not yet seated, NY commie-Cortez says congress should not get paid during this (fake) gov shutdown.

https://tinyurl.com/ya3rr5ru

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 05:58 AM (mpXpK)

5 Dang, pipped by Vic again

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2018 05:58 AM (/rm4P)

6 OH governor Katshit has vetoed a bill passed by the Republican legislature which had an easing of gun regulations and funding for first responders because at the last minute the legislature added a big pay raise for themselves. He also was against easing OH's gun regulations. I somehow doubt he gave a shit about the pay raise.

https://tinyurl.com/ya3rr5ru

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 05:58 AM (mpXpK)

7 Dallas Newspaper says the $5B wall funding that Trump has shutdown the gov over would only build 213 miles of wall, most of which is just replacing old wall that has deteriorated.

https://tinyurl.com/y9ap3y89

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

8 Rumor has it that Trump is considering firing FED Chairman Powell who he appointed.

https://tinyurl.com/y7rkqvvj

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

9 Two commies on the judicial committee are opposed to the nomination of a Trump judge because he is a member of the Knights of Columbus, a Catholic religious leaning organization that does charitable works. I somehow doubt this is their real reason. If Trump were to somehow nominate Jesus for a judgeship these commies would oppose him.

https://tinyurl.com/y7sc8xgq

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

10 The Trump administration has shit-canned Obama's racist school policy for light or no punishment for black offenders in school.

https://tinyurl.com/ydhxuowd

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

11 Just how fake is the fake shutdown? Mueller is not shutting down.

https://tinyurl.com/y984vlow

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

12 RIP Ethel Ayer of the Cosby show at 88.

https://tinyurl.com/ycrxnoay

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

13 Ramirez

https://tinyurl.com/ychgrgx9

And that's it for today. And the countdown to Christmas is in the short strokes now.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

14

I wish you all an early Merry Christmas.

Posted by: krakatoa at 06:00 AM

Merry Christmas to you too Krak.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

15 Morning mouth breathers.

Merry Christmas to you all.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 23, 2018 06:03 AM (3mrjU)

16
Good morning, Hordians.

Let's get out there and shame the lunatics by living a good life today.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 23, 2018 06:05 AM (KC0Xb)

17 WTFO??

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2018 06:05 AM (JFO2v)

18 Good morning Hordians.

Happy Christmas Eve Eve

Posted by: TickledPink at December 23, 2018 06:06 AM (VpnSm)

19 7 Dallas Newspaper says the $5B wall funding that Trump has shutdown the gov over would only build 213 miles of wall, most of which is just replacing old wall that has deteriorated.

Which makes the Dem objections to the $5B even moar pathetic and clueless if true, but I've noticed the Dallas Morning News is about as heavily anti-Trump biased as the WaPo.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 23, 2018 06:06 AM (Z4rgH)

20 Yay, EMT.

Posted by: m at December 23, 2018 06:07 AM (vcxAT)

21 9. So they're openly bigoted against Catholics? The commies are pretty selective about when they like Christianity.

Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2018 06:07 AM (OSgHz)

22 Willowed.
that assumes we have "global warming".

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 05:43 AM (mpXpK)

Some
of use are old enough to remember when our teachers in the 1970s told
us of the impending Ice Age. They also told us that the US was now
metric so get used to it. A year or so later they stopped talking about
metric an the "next ice age". But like normals, and unlike now, they did
not try to force global warming on us either, they let it die.

Maybe
global warming is a thing, the issue has become so politicized that it
is almost impossible to hear any proponent without a lot of skepticism.
These people politicized the issue and marginalized themselves. If man
is truly causing a catostrophe, I would think some smart people with no
agenda would be proving this to all.

I think it was Rush who
first brought up the idea of watermelons. Watermelons are leftists who
are green on the outside and red on the inside. The idea is that when
the Soviet Union fell, pinko Americans who hated capitalism needed a new
schtick. They were reds, but they cloaked their anti capitalism in
green. If the Commies could not take down America, the greenies could by
saying capitalism is destroying the earth.

I am open to proof
that global warming is real and man is causing it by building things.
But the issue needs to be de politicized, the fake news has to end and
people need to bring verifiable facts to the table without other
agendas.

Posted by: Quint at December 23, 2018 06:02 AM (n13/j)

Posted by: Quint at December 23, 2018 06:08 AM (n13/j)

23 19 Which makes the Dem objections to the $5B even moar
pathetic and clueless if true, but I've noticed the Dallas Morning News
is about as heavily anti-Trump biased as the WaPo.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 23, 2018 06:06 AM (Z4rgH)

I caught that whiff in that article too.,

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 06:09 AM (mpXpK)

24
Rumor has it that Trump is considering firing FED Chairman Powell who he appointed.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 05:59 AM

The stock market is in retreat, oil prices are sitting at bargain basement prices, and inflation is nominal.

It's like the Titanic seeing an iceberg straight ahead and hitting the throttle.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 23, 2018 06:10 AM (jYje5)

25 22 Posted by: Quint at December 23, 2018 06:08 AM (n13/j)

I left you a response back on the ONT.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 06:10 AM (mpXpK)

26 I wish you all an early Merry Christmas.

Posted by: krakatoa at 06:00 AM

Back atcha. Hey krak, you're in the news again; a smallish tsunami caused by the latest krakatoa eruption has killed at least 168, a number that is bound to go up.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 23, 2018 06:10 AM (Z4rgH)

27
Dallas Newspaper says the $5B wall funding that Trump has shutdown the
gov over would only build 213 miles of wall, most of which is just
replacing old wall that has deteriorated.

https://tinyurl.com/y9ap3y89

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

Lefty tactic, throw everything against "the wall" as it were. They will keep giving reasons until you agree, it doesn't matter if the reasons contradict each other.

Posted by: Quint at December 23, 2018 06:10 AM (n13/j)

28 I have trouble believing government costs anyway. The overruns are staggering and most is probably labor and overhead.

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2018 06:11 AM (/rm4P)

29 Posted by: Quint at December 23, 2018 06:08 AM (n13/j)

Nice essay, Quint.

Posted by: m at December 23, 2018 06:11 AM (vcxAT)

30 My other question about that Dallas article is "how does a wall deteriorate"?

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 06:12 AM (mpXpK)

31 @24

Okay but the oil price thing is a good thing, no?

I wouldn't say bargain basement, but bargain basement adjacent, sure.

Gas being below $2/gallon is my threshold on whether oil prices are low or super low.

Posted by: TickledPink at December 23, 2018 06:12 AM (VpnSm)

32 Last nite BF said he wants to go shopping today. I don't like mall shopping anytime, let alone Christmas. He did this to me last year too.

Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2018 06:13 AM (OSgHz)

33 28 I have trouble believing government costs anyway. The overruns are staggering and most is probably labor and overhead.
Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2018 06:11 AM (/rm4P)

And all of the money is fungible, and creative bookkeeping for the wim.

Posted by: m at December 23, 2018 06:13 AM (vcxAT)

34 Posted by: TickledPink at December 23, 2018 06:12 AM (VpnSm)

Up and down the hwy here in Ga.-

$1.99

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 23, 2018 06:14 AM (3mrjU)

35 32
Last nite BF said he wants to go shopping today. I don't like mall
shopping anytime, let alone Christmas. He did this to me last year too.

Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2018 06:13 AM (OSgHz)

What is this, a woman who does not want to go shopping?!!!!!

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 06:14 AM (mpXpK)

36 $1.99
Posted by: weirdflunky at December 23, 2018 06:14 AM (3mrjU)

I saw $1.84 yesterday!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2018 06:15 AM (JFO2v)

37
Gas being below $2/gallon is my threshold on whether oil prices are low or super low.

Posted by: TickledPink at December 23, 2018 06:12 AM

When Obama took office almost 10 years ago, gasoline was a little under $2.00 a gallon. Since then a bunch of states have raised their taxes on gasoline. Subtract those taxes and take another look.

Then factor in a decades worth of inflation.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 23, 2018 06:16 AM (jYje5)

38 35. Yes Vic I outgrew that fascination long ago.

Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2018 06:16 AM (OSgHz)

39 Well, Indiana is typically higher on average, so here it is above $2 still. I'm jealous of ya'll!

Kallisto, I think it's a man thing. For years, my Dad would only do his Christmas shopping on 12/23. And he wouldn't come home till like 10 or 11 at night.

We'd all be like...whyyyy?

Posted by: TickledPink at December 23, 2018 06:17 AM (VpnSm)

40 Posted by: Quint at December 23, 2018 06:08 AM (n13/j)

Nice essay, Quint.

Posted by: m at December 23, 2018 06:11 AM (vcxAT)

TY, I guess that is why I Willowed it, I wanted people to see my beautiful words! But mainly the watermelon thing. Rush said that a long time ago and I still think it is spot on.

Posted by: Quint at December 23, 2018 06:18 AM (n13/j)

41 33 28 I have trouble believing government costs anyway. The overruns are staggering and most is probably labor and overhead.
Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2018 06:11 AM (/rm4P)

And all of the money is fungible, and creative bookkeeping for the wim.
Posted by: m at December 23, 2018 06:13 AM (vcxAT)

That is why government project funding does not create job. With prevailing wages you have to hire the best person for the project to get it done on time. So you hire someone already working. Private enterprise usually will not replace this person unless it is 100% critical. And they will never hire a new person, maybe just move someone up!
Even B Hussein admitted that there were no new shovel ready jobs.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2018 06:18 AM (JFO2v)

42 Kallisto, I think it's a man thing. For years, my Dad would only do his Christmas shopping on 12/23. And he wouldn't come home till like 10 or 11 at night.

I used to enjoy going to the malls around Christmas. Walking around it with all of the decorations would get me in the Christmas mood a bit.
Now, I hate driving to the mall. I hate parking at the mall. I hate the little snot nosed gangs that hand out at the mall.

I can find anything I want online and have it delivered in 2 days.

Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2018 06:20 AM (8ikIW)

43 Yesterday was the busiest shopping day, maybe today won't be so bad?

Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2018 06:20 AM (OSgHz)

44 Good morning everyone and an early Merry Christmas.In a while I'll start breakfast: steel cut oatmeal with maple syrup and heavy cream, a small dish of Greek yogurt topped with stewed apples, and a tangerine. Wash it down with Yorkshire Gold tea. The perked coffee will be sipped after our morning walk. Nice way to start the day.

Posted by: JTB at December 23, 2018 06:21 AM (bmdz3)

45 Personally I hate "shopping". If I want to buy something I go to the store I think will have it, buy it and go home.

But probably 99% of the "buying" I do downtown is groceries. The other 1% is a trip to the liquor store.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 06:22 AM (mpXpK)

46 Yesterday was the busiest shopping day, maybe today won't be so bad?
Posted by: kallisto

We met friends for lunch yesterday. I was amazed at how light the traffic was. Lighter then a normal Saturday around here

Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2018 06:22 AM (8ikIW)

47 @37

No I get that, although I'd argue that you have to factor in the availability of domestic oil now compared with then, which I believe has increased.

Do you WANT to be paying more for a gallon of gas?

Posted by: TickledPink at December 23, 2018 06:22 AM (VpnSm)

48 The lowest gas price I saw yesterday was $1.79 here on the MS coast, but based on crude prices over the last week I'm expecting it go quite a bit lower -- During the last crude crash a few years ago, it got down to the mid $1.50s.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 23, 2018 06:24 AM (Z4rgH)

49
Now, I hate driving to the mall. I hate parking at the mall. I hate the little snot nosed gangs that hand out at the mall.

I can find anything I want online and have it delivered in 2 days.

Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2018 06:20 AM

I went to a mall last year, first time in over a decade. Bunch a hoodie wearing thugs, with only one security guy visible in over three hours of walking around. Screw that. I don't worry when FedEx, UPS, USPS, or Amazon pull into my driveway.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 23, 2018 06:24 AM (jYje5)

50 Maybe I should welcome our new commie overlords. Wearing Mao-jamas would eliminate the need for me to update the wardrobe.

Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2018 06:24 AM (OSgHz)

51 And he wouldn't come home till like 10 or 11 at night.

We'd all be like...whyyyy?
Posted by: TickledPink at December 23, 2018 06:17 AM (VpnSm)

he bought the gifts in like 10 minutes and then went to a strip club!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2018 06:25 AM (JFO2v)

52 Coffee just got done, sausage, cheese omlet and English muffin is planned but can't seem to be motivated yet. Maybe coffee will help.

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2018 06:25 AM (/rm4P)

53 44 Good morning everyone and an early Merry Christmas.In a while I'll start breakfast: steel cut oatmeal with maple syrup and heavy cream, a small dish of Greek yogurt topped with stewed apples, and a tangerine. Wash it down with Yorkshire Gold tea. The perked coffee will be sipped after our morning walk. Nice way to start the day.
Posted by: JTB at December 23, 2018 06:21 AM (bmdz3)

O.k., I'll jump in on this. Mine's regular oatmeal with chopped-up apples and diced dates and butter and a sprinkle of cinnamon; freeze-dried coffee with added chocolate powder and milk. Now switching to green tea.

Posted by: m at December 23, 2018 06:26 AM (vcxAT)

54 Can I ask a retail related question to you reasonably minded people?

Posted by: TickledPink at December 23, 2018 06:26 AM (VpnSm)

55 Screw that. I don't worry when FedEx, UPS, USPS, or Amazon pull into my driveway.
Posted by: Newest Nic

Ha! My wife asked me to reorder a vitamin for her from Amazon on Friday. Nothing urgent, she just needs another bottle of them. I ordered on Friday afternoon.
Delivery is today.

Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2018 06:27 AM (8ikIW)

56 If the malls don't start cleaning out those endless thugs aggravating customers they will go out of business.

But it has been years since I went to the mall here over in the "city". I used to go to the bookstore there quite often, but since I went Kindle I haven't been to a book store anywhere. I would also hit the record shop while I was there. Now I get all of that over the internet.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 06:28 AM (mpXpK)

57 Can I ask a retail related question to you reasonably minded people?
Posted by: TickledPink

Questions can always be asked.

The answers could go anywhere though

Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2018 06:29 AM (8ikIW)

58 No I get that, although I'd argue that you have to factor in the availability of domestic oil now compared with then, which I believe has increased.

Do you WANT to be paying more for a gallon of gas?

Posted by: TickledPink at December 23, 2018 06:22 AM

At a certain point it no longer becomes profitable to explore for new sources. I think we're there right now.

So supply and demand takes over. If the frackers have to pay higher interest on money they borrow, on top of low net return, it's a prescription for eventual supply disaster.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 23, 2018 06:29 AM (jYje5)

59 OT, tremendous thanks to Hadrian, whose early gift of musical knowledge arrived yesterday. Looking forward to relaxing with it over the Xhristmas holiday. Again thank you, Hadrian!

Posted by: Slash Buzz at December 23, 2018 06:29 AM (yrxFZ)

60 bye

Posted by: m at December 23, 2018 06:29 AM (vcxAT)

61 Last nite BF said he wants to go shopping today. I don't like mall shopping anytime, let alone Christmas. He did this to me last year too.
Posted by: kallisto at D

does he have you come out of the dressing room or does he go into the dressing room to see how the lingerie fits you?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 23, 2018 06:30 AM (MTjB1)

62 Gangs of yutes helped kill a local mall. They demo'd it and are replacing it with an open concept retail/office/residential pretend town.

Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2018 06:31 AM (OSgHz)

63 Bill Kristol
@BillKristol
I'm aware a wall that keeps foreigners out is different from a wall that keeps one's own citizens in. But I still can't help but recall that a long time ago, in a conservative movement far, far away, we all thrilled to Ronald Reagan saying, "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall."

Bill, put down the vodka! Step away slowly!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2018 06:32 AM (JFO2v)

64 And speaking of music damn windows 10 keeps killing all my sound devices. Has anyone else had that problem? I never had that problem with XP nor has my wife had it with Windows 7.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 06:33 AM (mpXpK)

65 They demo'd it and are replacing it with an open concept retail/office/residential pretend town.
Posted by: kallisto

A pretend town with real drivebys?

Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2018 06:34 AM (8ikIW)

66 61. that's funny right there. We're together 11 years. At this point the Mao-jamas may be the sexy play.

Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2018 06:34 AM (OSgHz)

67 This is hypothetical-ish.

Let's say I have a $10 coupon and it's good till March, we'll say. I go to the store, buy a $30 gift, use my $10 coupon, give them $20 and go on my merry little way.

A couple days later, I find out my aunt already has says item I bought. I take the item back, and they give me back...$20.

I guess my question/argument is: isn't the purpose of a return to make you equal to where you were before you purchased the item? Well, before I purchased the item, I had a $10 coupon to use, and now I don't. I can understand them not wanting to give $30 to someone who spent $20 BUT.

Wouldn't the ideal thing to do be refund $20 and give them another $10 coupon to use? And, if that's not possible, then refunding $30 is the other option. I am handing them back a $30 item, they should hand me $30.

Honestly, they are just shooting themselves in the foot, because with that $10 coupon, I would have come back to their store and bought something else. And, now I won't.

Am I being reasonable/making sense?

Posted by: TickledPink at December 23, 2018 06:34 AM (VpnSm)

68 At a certain point it no longer becomes profitable to explore for new sources. I think we're there right now. Posted by: Newest Nic at December 23, 2018 06:29 AM (jYje5)

True of oil, gold, and pretty much all commodities. I remember seeing turned off oil rigs in Texas back in the day. There was oil there and the rigs were there, but if the price was not right, they just turned them off, it wasn't worth the effort. Same with gold. There are gold mines that only pay off if the price is right.

Posted by: Quint at December 23, 2018 06:34 AM (n13/j)

69 I've gotta make 3 loaves of banana bread today.

So later, gators!

Posted by: sinalco at December 23, 2018 06:35 AM (yODqO)

70 Chicago early numbers up to 11 PM yesterday.
I Killed
20 wounded

Peace on earth

Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2018 06:36 AM (8ikIW)

71 59 ... Slash Buzz, Agreed. My copy arrived Friday and I've listened to several hours so far. It is wonderful to have it playing softly while reading or doing hand work. Such a generous gift from Hadrian.

Posted by: JTB at December 23, 2018 06:38 AM (bmdz3)

72 Wouldn't the ideal thing to do be refund $20 and give them another $10 coupon to use? And, if that's not possible, then refunding $30 is the other option. I am handing them back a $30 item, they should hand me $30.

Makes sense.

Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2018 06:38 AM (8ikIW)

73 Bill Kristol

@BillKristol

I'm aware a wall that keeps foreigners out is different from a wall
that keeps one's own citizens in. But I still can't help but recall
that a long time ago, in a conservative movement far, far away, we all
thrilled to Ronald Reagan saying, "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall."

Bill, put down the vodka! Step away slowly!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2018 06:32 AM (JFO2v)

I remember when you were not insane Bill, or maybe that was just an illusion. Everyone bashes America for trying to control it's borders but somehow ignores every other country with a functioning government that does likewise. Somehow we are evil for wanting border control, but France, Japan, Mexico, Egypt, Bolivia, and Thailand get a pass.

Posted by: Quint at December 23, 2018 06:39 AM (n13/j)

74 Somehow we are evil for wanting border control, but France, Japan, Mexico, Egypt, Bolivia, and Thailand get a pass.
Posted by: Quint

But, we've got that big statue with a poem on it in NY, so we got to let everybody in

Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2018 06:40 AM (8ikIW)

75
I was in an industry dependent on a product produced in the 94% efficiency range. Small fluctuations in supply created huge price swings.

Oil refining is a similar industry. A little too much and the price plummets, a little shortfall and the price skyrockets. They can't just throw a switch on an oil refinery and shut it down for a few weeks. Their only tool seems to be price.

Was watching a presentation about electric grid problems in Australia. An aluminum plant lost power for three hours and was destroyed. I guess stuff cooled down and funged it all up.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 23, 2018 06:40 AM (jYje5)

76 67. There's usually fine print about the value of the coupon relative to merch returns.

Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2018 06:41 AM (OSgHz)

77
When Obama took office almost 10 years ago, gasoline was a little under $2.00 a gallon. Since then a bunch of states have raised their taxes on gasoline. Subtract those taxes and take another look.

Then factor in a decades worth of inflation.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 23, 2018 06:16 AM

I was just doing those exact maths...I paid $1.509 for gas on Thursday...

I also had to pay 18.3� in federal tax & 26.3� in state tax & 6% in sales tax

add it all up & it was $2.069 at the pump

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 23, 2018 06:42 AM (KCxzN)

78 We finally hit 1.99 here in the middle of fly over country. I was worried that the IRS would lower their mileage rates but was pleasantly surprised to see they actually went to .58 per mileage.

Posted by: Molly k. at December 23, 2018 06:43 AM (TLDbD)

79 We finally hit 1.99 here in the middle of fly over country. I was worried that the IRS would lower their mileage rates but was pleasantly surprised to see they actually went to .58 per mileage.
Posted by: Molly k. at D

nodak or sodak?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 23, 2018 06:44 AM (MTjB1)

80 Yeah I figure it will go sub-$2 here in my neck of the woods relatively soon.

Also I have $1 off gallon of gas at Kroger to be using, so I will be pretty excited about that. 99 cents or less for a gallon of gas? Heck yes.

Posted by: TickledPink at December 23, 2018 06:46 AM (VpnSm)

81 But, we've got that big statue with a poem on it in NY, so we got to let everybody in

Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2018 06:40 AM (8ikIW)

I forgot the five branches of government. Executive, Legislative, Judicial, Media, and Poem.

Posted by: Quint at December 23, 2018 06:46 AM (n13/j)

82 But, we've got that big statue with a poem on it in NY, so we got to let everybody in
Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2018 06:40 AM (8ikIW)

That poem is harder to find than mohammedans clitoris. It is maybe 2 ft square.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2018 06:46 AM (JFO2v)

83 Australian Workers Union Victorian vice president Ben Davis said the power outage was "unprecedented".

"It's something that's never happened before, and aluminium smelters are not built to have power outages," he said.

"Their need for power is such that they have to be constantly running, they have to keep the liquid alumina hot.

"So when the power goes off, that's incredibly serious."

(From a couple years ago)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-02/alcoa-curtails-production-
at-portland-smelter/8085840

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 23, 2018 06:47 AM (jYje5)

84 Y5.........South

Posted by: Molly k. at December 23, 2018 06:47 AM (TLDbD)

85 Oil refining is a similar industry. A little too much and the price plummets, a little shortfall and the price skyrockets. They can't just throw a switch on an oil refinery and shut it down for a few weeks. Their only tool seems to be price.

we have something like 56 diff regional blends. Go to a single regular and cost could drop another 10% on efficiency.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2018 06:48 AM (JFO2v)

86 "Their need for power is such that they have to be constantly running, they have to keep the liquid alumina hot.

"So when the power goes off, that's incredibly serious."

I worked at a candy factory. If the power went out for more then 10 minutes, the mass mix would start cooling and everything would have to be dismantled to clean it out. That would take about 2 hours.
They worked with the power company and got another line installed. The worst that would happen is there would be about a 2 second outage. Power would switch over and then the computers for the lines would need to be restarted.

Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2018 06:51 AM (8ikIW)

87 good read

http://thedeclination.com/the-long-march-of-socialism-do-not-keep-faith/

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2018 06:53 AM (JFO2v)

88 Europe's no borders is as good as it gets for Leftists, its going to Hell but the management doesn't see it or really care as its a trade off of slowing population growth.
The faster it goes the better sorry to say, though Leftism never says "its sorry"

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2018 06:53 AM (/rm4P)

89 watched sidebar tsunami vid....those people never saw it coming. Prayers out

Posted by: A dude in MI at December 23, 2018 06:54 AM (OOH1c)

90 The stock market is in retreat, oil prices are sitting at bargain basement prices, and inflation is nominal.

It's like the Titanic seeing an iceberg straight ahead and hitting the throttle.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 23, 2018 06:10 AM

---

Some economists are saying there is the possibility of deflation due to falling energy prices.

I think it is more likely that the Fed is trying to block the roaring economy that Trump made possible with his massive deregulation efforts.

Simply can't allow the plebs to see that Trump actually knows what to do to kick start the economy so they have to reign it in and destroy his progress.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 23, 2018 06:54 AM (JUOKG)

91 Morning all! Drinking coffee, thinking about everything that needs to be done today. Presents - wrapped. House - cleaned. Liquor cabinet - full. Cookies - Kidsharn baking today. Gee, maybe I don't have as much to do as I thought...

Posted by: Rosasharn at December 23, 2018 06:55 AM (PzBTm)

92 Liquor cabinet - full. Cookies - Kidsharn baking today. Gee, maybe I don't have as much to do as I thought...
Posted by: Rosasharn

You might want to check to make sure that the liquor hasn't gone bad.
Then check again

Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2018 06:57 AM (8ikIW)

93 Morning All
On my way home for Christmas
At a Bob Evans on the Eastern Dhore

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2018 06:58 AM (K0Dlp)

94 78
We finally hit 1.99 here in the middle of fly over country. I was
worried that the IRS would lower their mileage rates but was pleasantly
surprised to see they actually went to .58 per mileage.

Posted by: Molly k. at December 23, 2018 06:43 AM (TLDbD)

The IRS rate for a car is based on the average overall cost of the car over a ten year period, gas, insurance, maintenance, etc. which according to AAA is close to 76 cents per mile for a medium size car. So you are getting no "good deal' from the IRS.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 06:58 AM (mpXpK)

95 88 Europe's no borders is as good as it gets for Leftists, its going to Hell but the management doesn't see it or really care as its a trade off of slowing population growth.
The faster it goes the better sorry to say, though Leftism never says "its sorry"
Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2018 06:53 AM (/rm4P)

Sweden is now 2 different civilizations. 1 of law abiding northern europeans and the other a 3rd world enclave of thugs and criminals with their own set of unlaws.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2018 06:59 AM (JFO2v)

96 Europe's no borders is as good as it gets for
Leftists, its going to Hell but the management doesn't see it or really
care as its a trade off of slowing population growth.

The faster it goes the better sorry to say, though Leftism never says "its sorry"

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2018 06:53 AM (/rm4P)

The funny thing about Europe is that they will take masses from the Third World, usually former colonies. But just try moving there as an American long term and working without a hook up from a major corporation. See what happens. The EU is way harder to move to as an American than the other way. And it IS hard for EU types to move here legally.

Posted by: Quint at December 23, 2018 07:00 AM (n13/j)

97 I think it is more likely that the Fed is trying to block the roaring economy that Trump made possible with his massive deregulation efforts.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 23, 2018 06:54 AM

As John 'suspend my campaign' McCain proved, recession in the middle of a presidential campaign is not a good thing. So perhaps having one now and getting it over with decreases the odds of it occurring again one and a half years from now.

There's probably some historical 'average' months between them and I'm sure it's a helluva lot more then 24 months.

So the leftists should be screaming from the rooftops that the Fed is actually helping Trump out.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 23, 2018 07:02 AM (jYje5)

98 I pay 1.99 for gas at Royal Farms in VA. Actually 1.85 for the next 20 days

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2018 07:02 AM (K0Dlp)

99 Liquor cabinet - full. Cookies - Kidsharn baking today. Gee, maybe I don't have as much to do as I thought...
Posted by: Rosasharn

You might want to check to make sure that the liquor hasn't gone bad.
Then check again

Good point. And invite non-drinkers to Christmas dinner - check!

Posted by: Rosasharn at December 23, 2018 07:03 AM (PzBTm)

100 Y5.........South
Posted by: Molly k. at D

you have to be the best dressed south dakotan.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 23, 2018 07:03 AM (MTjB1)

101
I like how the leftists are all 'solar power'. You know when solar power produces the most? After people have left home and gone to work.

When it produces the least? When people are home watching tv, cooking meals, doing laundry, cranking up the heat or air conditioning.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 23, 2018 07:08 AM (jYje5)

102 you have to be the best dressed south dakotan.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 23, 2018 07:03 AM (MTjB1)

...........

Ha! My Vegas outfit? We may be simple but we do have access to internet shopping!

Posted by: Molly k. at December 23, 2018 07:08 AM (TLDbD)

103 Chi-com Mitch the turtle senator is rumored to have made 24 million in last 6 years. Cocaine's a hellava drug Mitch.
Squirm Mitch squirm. We the little people know that the longer the gubmint is closed, more will notice just how useless and unneeded is the babylon whore. Back to you uniparty.

Posted by: John Doe at December 23, 2018 07:09 AM (WX+x0)

104 Heard it said Leftifornia's biggest solar plant wouldn't run the NY subway yet alone all else of NY.

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2018 07:11 AM (/rm4P)

105 Ha! My Vegas outfit? We may be simple but we do have access to internet shopping!
Posted by: Molly k. at D

yeah, that is the only time I have met you. you would have looked at home in nyc.

not knocking sodak.

we have a place there and I have spent a lot of time there since I was kid.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 23, 2018 07:13 AM (MTjB1)

106 Good Sunday morning, horde.

"The people who walked in darkness have seen a great light.
On those living in the land of deep darkness, a light has shined."

Isaiah 9:2

Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 23, 2018 07:13 AM (lwiT4)

107 Merry Christmas Eve Eve.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at December 23, 2018 07:16 AM (IfYaq)

108 G'mornin' Horde !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 23, 2018 07:19 AM (mfOi4)

109 not knocking sodak.

we have a place there and I have spent a lot of time there since I was kid.

............

Cool! Which part? I complain sometimes but it's actually a great state to live in.

Posted by: Molly k. at December 23, 2018 07:19 AM (TLDbD)

110 We are celebrating Christmas today after church. It's about the only day that Rev has time for, what with all the services and all. It'll be nice, even if it's early. Holidays are heavy work days around here.

Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 23, 2018 07:20 AM (lwiT4)

111 When we would show up to my Grandmothers house she would says Christmas Eve Gift. Never knew WTF that meant!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2018 07:21 AM (JFO2v)

112 Good Morning Glories!

The MIL is here for the next few days. I hope she has a nice time.

And I hope every member in good standing of the Moron Horde has a nice Christmas, too!

Posted by: ALH at December 23, 2018 07:23 AM (cS3Yq)

113 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 23, 2018 07:24 AM (Kxdvs)

114 I wish you all an early Merry Christmas.

Posted by: krakatoa

Same to you, Krak.

Thanks for the EMT 's.

Posted by: JT at December 23, 2018 07:25 AM (Kxdvs)

115 grammie I have been wondering with this eye condition do you have to wear the patch all the time?

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2018 07:26 AM (/rm4P)

116 101

I like how the leftists are all 'solar power'. You know when solar
power produces the most? After people have left home and gone to work.

When it produces the least? When people are home watching tv,
cooking meals, doing laundry, cranking up the heat or air conditioning.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 23, 2018 07:08 AM (jYje5)

If you have an average size house with the roof completely covered with solar panels it will not produce enough electricity to power your house completely if you have a heat pump or large AC unit running.
Something the eco-Nazis never tell you.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 07:26 AM (mpXpK)

117 Gas is 2.58 here in my corner of Taxsylvania, with no relief in sight. It's actually usually cheaper for me to drive up to Hancock NY, and get gas there.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at December 23, 2018 07:27 AM (gttv9)

118 Sun's up now and temps are going back up. Bottom out at 25.5F. Boy I'm glad I live in SOUTH Carolina where it doesn't get cold.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 07:28 AM (mpXpK)

119 111 When we would show up to my Grandmothers house she would says Christmas Eve Gift. Never knew WTF that meant!
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2018 07:21 AM (JFO2v

My mom would always say that, but I assumed it was because she put a small gift under everybody's plate at the breakfast table.

Posted by: sinalco at December 23, 2018 07:28 AM (yODqO)

120 AOC has a point about the Congresspeople getting paid during a shutdown. It shouldn't happen.

She is someone to watch; she has some compelling arguments sprinkled in with the crazy/stoopid talk.

How much of it is an act?

Posted by: squeakywheel at December 23, 2018 07:29 AM (g/cxV)

121 Oh yeah? Well I wish everyone a Merry Christmas no matter whether you're late, early, on time, whatever.

Posted by: Snarky the Clown at December 23, 2018 07:29 AM (MJnQv)

122 Skip - yes, I wear it all the time, and at night I tape my eye shut so I can sleep. My eye is paralyzed open, and I can't blink, so I have no defenses against dust or dryness or debris.

Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 23, 2018 07:29 AM (lwiT4)

123 It is my understanding most government employees are getting paid working or not. I would love to know the answer as we have our fair share of them here.

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2018 07:31 AM (/rm4P)

124 My eye is paralyzed open, and I can't blink, so I have no defenses against dust or dryness or debris.

Posted by: grammie winger,

Wow. I didn't realize that. I thought maybe it was a light sensitivity.
That really stinks.

Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2018 07:32 AM (8ikIW)

125 Skip - my son works for the VA. I'll ask him today if he's still getting paid. I assume he's part of the shutdown.

Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 23, 2018 07:32 AM (lwiT4)

126 Last nite BF said he wants to go shopping today. I don't like mall shopping anytime, let alone Christmas. He did this to me last year too.
Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2018 06:13 AM (OSgHz)

We did that yesterday. Good luck and God bless.

Of course, my husband used to wait until 4pm Christmas Eve, so...

Posted by: Antisocialist at December 23, 2018 07:32 AM (2shuf)

127 Bruce - it is kind of a nuisance, but hopefully my facial nerve will wake up bright and shiny soon.

Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 23, 2018 07:33 AM (lwiT4)

128 SoDak. Spent a summer internship back in my hippy days w the Sisseton Sioux. Driving around that 3 corner area I've never seen so much waving to strangers in my long life. Felt strange to return to the west coast where everyone seemingly drives with their heads down scowling. What a juxtaposition on attitudes I'll never understand.

Posted by: MSTisdale at December 23, 2018 07:36 AM (MJnQv)

129 Cool! Which part? I complain sometimes but it's actually a great state to live in.
Posted by: Molly k. at D

out west of huron about half an hour. we get our there for pheasant hunting nearly every year. otherwise we do not get out there unless there is something that needs to be done with the house. or unless there is something going on with the tenant.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 23, 2018 07:37 AM (MTjB1)

130 grammie, we are celebrating christmas today too. son fliys out tomorrow morning at 7 a.m. so, today it is.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 23, 2018 07:39 AM (KP5rU)

131 123 Skip - those who are furloughed do not get paid, but historically they have always been made whole retroactively in the new budget.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 23, 2018 07:39 AM (DElAm)

132 'If you have an average size house with the roof completely covered with solar panels it will '

You'd have to cover a couple of acres with panels to be able to run your house, and a 2000 sq ft building to hold enough batteries to get you thru the night. Solar farms are a big scam in Georgia. They are covering thousands of acres with panels (probably subsidized) that will need constant maintenenace and replacement, and tie-in to the grid. I would be surprised if the pay for themselves in less than 30 years.

Posted by: freaked at December 23, 2018 07:41 AM (UdKB7)

133 RE: Syria

Do. Not. Doubt. Me.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1076618514822299648.html

Posted by: CPT. Charles at December 23, 2018 07:41 AM (W+kMI)

134 chavez - have a Merry Christmas with your family. I'm glad your son gets to be with you. I'll send some Swedish glogg your way. Oh who am I kidding. I'm way too selfish for that.

Merry Merry. Christ is born.

Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 23, 2018 07:41 AM (lwiT4)

135 Time to get ready for church. Have a blessed day!

Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 23, 2018 07:42 AM (lwiT4)

136 "We are celebrating Christmas today after church. It's about the only day that Rev has time for, what with all the services and all. It'll be nice, even if it's early. Holidays are heavy work days around here."
-Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 23, 2018 07:20 AM (lwiT4)

Finding blessings and drawing the sweetness from the bitter cold of seasons and surroundings is a particular talent that can be honed and kept in fine shape.

The respites from "The Everyday" and "What Fresh Hell is This?" are island vacations through love and thoughtful action.

I bring upon myself my own Spring of growth and renewal through Him.

...and then I dream of baseball.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 23, 2018 07:43 AM (Ckg4U)

137 "...will wake up bright and shiny soon."

And a skillion hoardsters said AMEN!

Since I know you didn't see it earlier grammie, Christmas Tree on Main Street went over 10,000 listens the other day for this year on facebook.

We went cardboard!!!
Less than 90,000 listens to hit gold!!!

Merry Christmas to all and...

Love each other fellow babies
**No Leofb shorthand today,,, It's Christmas!!,,, almost**

Posted by: teej at December 23, 2018 07:43 AM (W8e/N)

138 Sun's up now and temps are going back up. Bottom out at 25.5F. Boy I'm glad I live in SOUTH Carolina where it doesn't get cold.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 07:28 AM

38 degrees in downtown Philly right now.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 23, 2018 07:43 AM (jYje5)

139 Have a blessed day, grammie winger.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 23, 2018 07:44 AM (Ckg4U)

140 125 Skip - my son works for the VA. I'll ask him today if he's still getting paid. I assume he's part of the shutdown.
Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 23, 2018 07:32 AM (lwiT4)

VA fully funded thru sept 30 2019

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2018 07:45 AM (JFO2v)

141 Going to my parents today to celebrate Christmas. Dad had the same procedure as RBG about three weeks ago, and is recovering nicely.

Also, I have decided to suspend my first period until after Christmas. It turned out to be harder than I thought and I'm not very good at it. Maybe I'll pick it up again after the New Year. Menopause will just have wait.

Posted by: freaked at December 23, 2018 07:46 AM (UdKB7)

142 Merry Christmas, to all. Time to get ready for church.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 23, 2018 07:47 AM (KP5rU)

143 Skip - my son works for the VA. I'll ask him today if he's still getting paid. I assume he's part of the shutdown.

Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 23, 2018 07:32 AM (lwiT4)

VA fully funded thru sept 30 2019

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2018 07:45 AM

---

Correct, the VA is not affected by the shutdown. The wife is HR there.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 23, 2018 07:47 AM (JUOKG)

144 Tell God I said "hello", chavez.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 23, 2018 07:47 AM (Ckg4U)

145 144; Will do, Slap.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 23, 2018 07:48 AM (KP5rU)

146 They are covering thousands of acres with panels (probably subsidized) that will need constant maintenenace and replacement, and tie-in to the grid. I would be surprised if the pay for themselves in less than 30 years.

Posted by: freaked at December 23, 2018 07:41 AM

They'll be pretty much useless before then. At some point in time they'll say, 'Wait a minute, these things are full of heavy metals and you need special dispensation and an exit tax to dispose of them."

You'll drive down the highway and see them lying by the side of the road next to discarded tires.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 23, 2018 07:49 AM (jYje5)

147 Thanks, Brother!

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 23, 2018 07:49 AM (Ckg4U)

148 From talk show callers any government service agencies work through shutdowns, like VA, immigration and the like, but not really sure. As I figure if most are salary they get paid, hourly no idea.

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2018 07:50 AM (/rm4P)

149 They'll be pretty much useless before then. At some point in time they'll say, 'Wait a minute, these things are full of heavy metals and you need special dispensation and an exit tax to dispose of them."

You'll drive down the highway and see them lying by the side of the road next to discarded tires.
Posted by: Newest Nic at December 23, 2018 07:49 AM (jYje5)

And people that leased/finance them on the house are stuck in contracts. They will give up equity when selling to pay out the contracts. Fuked and far from home!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2018 07:51 AM (JFO2v)

150 Speaking of VA have worked some at a new VA clinic in Philadelphia but sadly not going back I guess as I am going to a new job Wednesday. The VA job pays better.

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2018 07:52 AM (/rm4P)

151 Slappy Christmas, Horde!

-Dropkick Murphys
-"The Season's Upon Us"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTx-sdR6Yzk

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 23, 2018 07:53 AM (Ckg4U)

152 After Soviet killed Beria, Stalins chief of the secret police this came out:

The State Scientific Publishing House of the large Soviet Encyclopedia recommends that pages 21, 22, 23, and 24 be removed from Volume 5 as well as the portrait of Beria between pages 22 and 23 to replace which the pages of the new text are enclosed.

The aforementioned pages should be cut out with scissors or blade, leaving inside a margin on which the new pages can be pasted.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2018 07:55 AM (JFO2v)

153 123
It is my understanding most government employees are getting paid
working or not. I would love to know the answer as we have our fair
share of them here.

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2018 07:31 AM (/rm4P)

The Fox news article yesterday said yes, they would get paid.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 07:56 AM (mpXpK)

154 I wish someone on our side would go after Soros for interfering in the elections.

Posted by: freaked at December 23, 2018 07:58 AM (UdKB7)

155 'The aforementioned pages should be cut out with scissors or blade, leaving inside a margin on which the new pages can be pasted.'

They should have published their encyclopedia in a three ring binder.

Posted by: freaked at December 23, 2018 07:59 AM (UdKB7)

156 -Dropkick Murphys
-"The Season's Upon Us"

LOL I've never heard/seen that song before

Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2018 08:00 AM (8ikIW)

157 It is my understanding most government employees are getting paid

working or not. I would love to know the answer as we have our fair

share of them here.

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2018 07:31 AM (/rm4P)

The Fox news article yesterday said yes, they would get paid.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 07:56 AM

---

All Federal employees and Military were eventually paid after every shutdown I can remember since the 1980s.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 23, 2018 08:00 AM (JUOKG)

158 "152 After Soviet killed Beria, Stalins chief of the secret police this came out:

The State Scientific Publishing House of the large Soviet Encyclopedia recommends that pages 21, 22, 23, and 24 be removed from Volume 5 as well as the portrait of Beria between pages 22 and 23 to replace which the pages of the new text are enclosed.

The aforementioned pages should be cut out with scissors or blade, leaving inside a margin on which the new pages can be pasted.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2018 07:55 AM (JFO2v) "

So much easier now that everything is digital,

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 23, 2018 08:01 AM (mfOi4)

159 https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/13454/trump-agenda
Why President Trump can't be Airbrushed out of the Picture

Nice segue there

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2018 08:01 AM (/rm4P)

160 Wile I'm wishing, I wish Jimmie Kimmel would fall ass first on an ice pick.

Posted by: freaked at December 23, 2018 08:02 AM (UdKB7)

161 So much easier now that everything is digital,
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 23, 2018 08:01 AM (mfOi4)

That was my point! Many sites do not have a formal policy for changing or correcting lies.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2018 08:02 AM (JFO2v)

162 I remember vividly while in England late 70's a government shutdown came annd rumours we wouldn't get paid were flying around. Of course it didn't happen and not sure if it was shutdown or not.

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2018 08:04 AM (/rm4P)

163 And that is neither accident nor coincidence.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 23, 2018 08:04 AM (mfOi4)

164 AOC has a point about the Congresspeople getting paid during a shutdown. It shouldn't happen.

Wasn't AOC bitching nearly a month ago that she doesn't have enough money to afford to live in DC?

Suddenly all of that whining stopped and now she is talking about how Congress Critters shouldn't even be paid while there is this "shutdown".

Did she strike oil or win a lottery no one knows about?

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 23, 2018 08:05 AM (lD3vL)

165 One other point about solar....

The average asphalt shingle roof lasts 15 to 20 years, so even with a 25 year warranty on panel power output, at some point your entire system will have to be ripped out to replace your roof.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at December 23, 2018 08:06 AM (gttv9)

166 Most of the gov workers are not even being furloughed. These shutdowns are always a lie. They close a few departments and send a few people home, making sure the MFM is on hand with cameras to show "poor workers' leaving. When in fact it is only a small percentage of workers getting another free paid vacation. And Obama was the worst, closed the Washington Mall just so it would inconvenience a few tourists who had spent money to visit Washington and the cameras would be handy.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 08:06 AM (mpXpK)

167 160 Wile I'm wishing, I wish Jimmie Kimmel would fall ass first on an ice pick.
Posted by: freaked at December 23, 2018 08:02 AM (UdKB7)

I could NOT care less. If he died today I would not hear about for several years.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2018 08:07 AM (JFO2v)

168 Good morning, horde.

I just watched the tsunami video in the sidebar. Yikes. The death toll is up to 222 now, according to an article I found at Drudge. Some of the band members were killed.

https://apnews.com/e91d55a6b39542c0896c5f31a0098870

I have some photos of Anak Krakatau I found a couple years ago as desktop wallpaper.

Posted by: rickl at December 23, 2018 08:08 AM (sdi6R)

169 165
One other point about solar....

The average asphalt shingle roof lasts 15 to 20 years, so even with a
25 year warranty on panel power output, at some point your entire
system will have to be ripped out to replace your roof.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at December 23, 2018 08:06 AM (gttv9)

When all of this solar panel shit started the published life expectancy of a solar panel was 10 years. If you lived on the best location in the country with the highest electricity costs you were lucky to recoup their cost before they failed. (Southern CA)

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 08:09 AM (mpXpK)

170 Welp.

Der Hoggenfuhrer got accepted to Political Finishing School (Harvard), so it looks like he's NEVER going to spend a day outside the ACELA corridor for the rest of our lives...

Posted by: Hikaru at December 23, 2018 08:12 AM (nIcJp)

171 164 Wasn't AOC bitching nearly a month ago that she doesn't have enough money to afford to live in DC?

Suddenly all of that whining stopped and now she is talking about how Congress Critters shouldn't even be paid while there is this "shutdown".

Did she strike oil or win a lottery no one knows about?
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 23, 2018 08:05 AM (lD3vL)

She finally decided on which Left-Wing Billionaire she wanted to be in Thrall too.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 23, 2018 08:14 AM (nIcJp)

172 And Obama was the worst, closed the Washington Mall just so it would inconvenience a few tourists who had spent money to visit Washington and the cameras would be handy.
Posted by: Vic

I remember that rat bastard shutting down the National Parks. One day before we were to visit Acadia.

Thanks a lot ya JEF

Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2018 08:14 AM (8ikIW)

173 Got back about half hour ago. While out, I filled the tank at $1.83 per gallon. The Walmart parking lot was already filling up with the crazy people.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 23, 2018 08:16 AM (xzqr4)

174 "LOL I've never heard/seen that song before."
-Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2018 08:00 AM (8ikIW)

I heard it myself for the first time yesterday. Sent it out to Loved Ones because I know we all have crazy Family members.

Since I consider The Horde a "Loved One", I figured I'd share.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 23, 2018 08:16 AM (Ckg4U)

175 The Falcon 9 has begun fueling for a liftoff at 8:51 am EST. Hopefully the upper level winds have quieted down since yesterday.

Posted by: rickl at December 23, 2018 08:17 AM (sdi6R)

176
off to the range

BBL

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 23, 2018 08:17 AM (KCxzN)

177 173
Got back about half hour ago. While out, I filled the tank at $1.83 per
gallon. The Walmart parking lot was already filling up with the crazy
people.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 23, 2018 08:16 AM (xzqr4)

I need to go get groceries but I am not going anywhere near Walmart until after Christmas. I will clean out the shelves eating old stuff for a while.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 08:17 AM (mpXpK)

178 "Welp.

Der Hoggenfuhrer got accepted to Political Finishing School (Harvard), so it looks like he's NEVER going to spend a day outside the ACELA corridor for the rest of our lives..."
-Posted by: Hikaru at December 23, 2018 08:12 AM (nIcJp)

He'll never escape the "rollerskates/skateboard" persona that has been indelibly etched upon him, so I don't see him as anything more than an ancillary factor within the political realm.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 23, 2018 08:19 AM (Ckg4U)

179 Later, AltonJackson.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 23, 2018 08:21 AM (Ckg4U)

180 I suspect Hogg will get through Harvard much like Barak did, no classes, no work to speak of, fake grades, diploma.

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2018 08:21 AM (/rm4P)

181 9
Two commies on the judicial committee are opposed to the nomination of a
Trump judge because he is a member of the Knights of Columbus, a
Catholic religious leaning organization that does charitable works. I
somehow doubt this is their real reason. If Trump were to somehow
nominate Jesus for a judgeship these commies would oppose him.

https://tinyurl.com/y7sc8xgq

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

Fundraisers for church activities or small scholarships, ushering at masses, surprising a retiree and fixing up their house or doing needed yard work too difficult for the homeowner to do any more. Oh, and each year, securing and setting up a Christmas tree.

Yeah, the Knights of Columbus are flat out deviants, destroying the core of society, the antithesis of the Constitution. Was one for years, and that was the terrible stuff we did, and obviously warped any sense of fairness or legality in my thinking. As are all Knights. /s

And how are Hiroto and Kameltoe going to identify them in public? Sewing stars on clothing is a tried and true method.

Seriously, the hatred from these women Senators is disgusting.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 23, 2018 08:22 AM (UsCnO)

182 181 Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 23, 2018 08:22 AM (UsCnO)

Its enough to make you want puke isn't it.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 08:24 AM (mpXpK)

183 "I need to go get groceries but I am not going anywhere near Walmart until after Christmas. I will clean out the shelves eating old stuff for a while."
-Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 08:17 AM (mpXpK)

I've got milk, eggs and bread for weeks. Now that I'm feeding 'The Five-Year-Old and The Eight-Year-Old', I have to think further ahead.

I've got enough meat in the freezer to last through armageddon.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 23, 2018 08:24 AM (Ckg4U)

184 And how are Hiroto and Kameltoe going to identify them in public? Sewing stars on clothing is a tried and true method.

Seriously, the hatred from these women Senators is disgusting.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 23, 2018 08:22 AM (UsCnO)

At least he did not coach girls basketball!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2018 08:24 AM (JFO2v)

185 Two commies on the judicial committee are opposed to the nomination of a Trump judge because he is a member of the Knights of Columbus, a Catholic religious leaning organization that does charitable works. I somehow doubt this is their real reason. If Trump were to somehow
nominate Jesus for a judgeship these commies would oppose him.

https://tinyurl.com/y7sc8xgq

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

Like all good commies they hate religion and would gt rid of it if they could. Except for the SJWs types pretending to be religious

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 23, 2018 08:25 AM (SiINZ)

186 NY commie-Cortez says congress should not get paid during this (fake) gov shutdown.

Blind/Squirrel/Acorn

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 23, 2018 08:26 AM (Ndje9)

187 Like all good commies they hate religion and would gt rid of it if they could. Except for the SJWs types pretending to be religious
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 23, 2018 08:25 AM (SiINZ)

SJWhoring is a religion.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2018 08:27 AM (JFO2v)

188 Youngest kidlet and I finished shopping yesterday, gifts and groceries. It was a very pleasant experience. People were polite and good-humored; even kids were polite and we didn't have to experience any tantrums. Kidlet was wondering what was wrong with our local stores because it was easy and not painful at all. I said something about 'Midwestern nice'.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 23, 2018 08:27 AM (MIKMs)

189
Knights Templar, Knights of Columbus, what's the difference?

Leftists everywhere.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 23, 2018 08:28 AM (jYje5)

190 174 "LOL I've never heard/seen that song before."
-Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2018 08:00 AM (8ikIW)

I heard it myself for the first time yesterday. Sent it out to Loved Ones because I know we all have crazy Family members.

Since I consider The Horde a "Loved One", I figured I'd share.
Posted by: Slapweasel at December 23, 2018 08:16 AM (Ckg4U)

Thanks! That's a cute song and video. It deserves to be in the Christmas song rotation.

Posted by: rickl at December 23, 2018 08:30 AM (sdi6R)

191 Didn't they say solar panels would propel the High Speed Rail system in California, or was that just a rumor. Mighty heavy train, with all those panels on the top of the cars. Top speed 10 mph.

Posted by: Colin at December 23, 2018 08:30 AM (8j5Zs)

192 I have to go grocery shopping soon too but doubt the dead bodies will stop my truck.

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2018 08:31 AM (/rm4P)

193 186 NY commie-Cortez says congress should not get paid during this (fake) gov shutdown.

Blind/Squirrel/Acorn
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 23, 2018 08:26 AM (Ndje9)

At this moment she's more fiscally conservative than Paul Ryan. It's a Christmas miracle!

Posted by: rickl at December 23, 2018 08:32 AM (sdi6R)

194 Funky music has started!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRiLPoy_Mzc

Posted by: rickl at December 23, 2018 08:33 AM (sdi6R)

195 180. Agreed. Then they find him a safe Congressional Seat near Miami.

He looks like one of the children of the Corn

Posted by: Jonah at December 23, 2018 08:33 AM (87yaq)

196 "Like all good commies they hate religion and would gt rid of it if they could. Except for the SJWs types pretending to be religious."
-Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 23, 2018 08:25 AM (SiINZ)

Man seeks a Higher Power. Theirs is power through Government and it is a never-ending loop of cognitive dissonance, discord and enemy-seeking.

While the media feeds into that loop, the American People see through the sheer idiocy and continue to see themselves as individuals.

Atheists have a religion and they are now selling wholesale through 'lawfare' and perceived impeus.

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 23, 2018 08:33 AM (Ckg4U)

197 I'm aware a wall that keeps foreigners out is different from a wall that keeps one's own citizens in. But I still can't help but conflate and confuse the two in order to further my Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Posted by: Cap'n "Crunch" Kristol. Man Without a Boat at December 23, 2018 08:35 AM (Ndje9)

198 I don't get it. Chris rock of all people is being roasted by the PC police right now, but old clips of Jimmy Kimmel and the Man Show are given a free pass

Posted by: Jonah at December 23, 2018 08:35 AM (87yaq)

199 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 23, 2018 08:36 AM (cqNba)

200
Its enough to make you want puke isn't it.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 08:24 AM (mpXpK)

Seriously, the hatred from these women Senators is disgusting.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 23, 2018 08:22 AM (UsCnO)

At least he did not coach girls basketball!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2018 08:24 AM (JFO2v)

Yes, Vic, it does. The volunteer hours the Knights put in to help others, for nothing in return but an appreciative smile once in a while, is unseen by most. To insinuate anything negative makes my blood boil. I remind myself it is Sunday, and do my best to control my negative views of these evil people.

The hours of volunteering at any Catholic school I saw dwarfed the public schools, where administrators raise budgets to hire employees instead. These Senators have no idea, nor do they care. Wide and shallow.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 23, 2018 08:36 AM (UsCnO)

201 Do remember Leftists despise religion except there Government worship, anything taking away from that must be stamped out.

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2018 08:36 AM (/rm4P)

202 Oh goody, went into the kitchen to fix me a glass of brown and found that second flashlight I had misplaced behind the liquor bottle.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 08:38 AM (mpXpK)

203 Chuck Schumer has shut down the government and stolen little childrens Christmas gifts all while circling the local playground in his panel van attired in nothing more then a thong and slippers.
Chuck Schumer is bad!...

Posted by: Stompy Daniels... at December 23, 2018 08:40 AM (yhf6w)

204 202 Oh goody, went into the kitchen to fix me a glass of brown and found that second flashlight I had misplaced behind the liquor bottle.
Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 08:38 AM (mpXpK)

It's easier to find flashlights in the daytime.

Posted by: rickl at December 23, 2018 08:40 AM (sdi6R)

205 Columbus was an imperialist. Maybe if they changed their name to the Knights of Wakanda the Senate Dems wouldn't mind them as much.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 23, 2018 08:40 AM (/qEW2)

206 197
I'm aware a wall that keeps foreigners out is different from a wall that
keeps one's own citizens in. But I still can't help but conflate and
confuse the two in order to further my Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Perhaps you could notify MSNBC, CNN. and others of this fact. Obviously they haven't heard yet there is a difference. It is like one of those public service messages.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 23, 2018 08:41 AM (UsCnO)

207 204 It's easier to find flashlights in the daytime.

Posted by: rickl at December 23, 2018 08:40 AM (sdi6R)

How true.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 08:41 AM (mpXpK)

208 I wonder if RBG has begun a new Sudoku puzzle yet.

Or maybe reading a new novel.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 23, 2018 08:43 AM (cqNba)

209 Did you folks Chucky Cheese head has a CR rating of 4? But you can't call him a DIABLO, he's the real thing.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 08:45 AM (mpXpK)

210 Two minutes to go.

Posted by: rickl at December 23, 2018 08:46 AM (sdi6R)

211 The Senators need to read Article 6 of some document written over a hundred years ago by some old white guys, half of whom were slaveholders.

No religious test for office.

Posted by: Fox2! at December 23, 2018 08:46 AM (s7y11)

212 The hours of volunteering at any Catholic school I saw dwarfed the public schools, where administrators raise budgets to hire employees instead. These Senators have no idea, nor do they care. Wide and shallow.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 23, 2018 08:36 AM (UsCnO)

I think they do have an idea, which you unconsciously expressed. The thought of people doing volunteer work through organizations outside of government control terrifies them. They want the government directly running all of that activity.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 23, 2018 08:49 AM (/qEW2)

213 203 Chuck Schumer has shut down the government and stolen little childrens Christmas gifts all while circling the local playground in his panel van attired in nothing more then a thong and slippers.
Chuck Schumer is bad!...
Posted by: Stompy Daniels... at December 23, 2018 08:40 AM (yhf6w)

Can you help me find my puppy?

I thought the phrase of art was "banana hammock".

Posted by: Fox2! at December 23, 2018 08:49 AM (s7y11)

214 GoFundTheWall is at almost 15.75 million.

Nce.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 23, 2018 08:50 AM (cqNba)

215 AOC is now standing, mouth wide open, in front of the honey wagon dump valve of Beltway Graft. More money than she knows how to spend. No more generic expiring food for her.

Posted by: Burger Chef at December 23, 2018 08:50 AM (RuIsu)

216 Article at American Thinker about Aunt Ruthy doesn't paint a rosy picture. But sure in 2 weeks she will be right as rain back at doing what she does best, tearing down the constitution.

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2018 08:50 AM (/rm4P)

217 What's a Honey Wagon?

And does it harm the bees?

Posted by: Occasional Brain Fart at December 23, 2018 08:51 AM (cqNba)

218 208 I wonder if RBG has begun a new Sudoku puzzle yet.

Or maybe reading a new novel.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 23, 2018 08:43 AM (cqNba

Reread War and Peace? In the original Klingon, of course.

Posted by: Fox2! at December 23, 2018 08:52 AM (s7y11)

219 Been watching YouTube videos that a lady makes while driving around the homeless camps in California, Oregon. It looks like every parking lot is filled with tents...wow....

Posted by: Colin at December 23, 2018 08:53 AM (8j5Zs)

220 merry christmas...

i can't win. i came up with "mhappy happy merry merry". but when i say happy happy the christians hit me and when i say merry merry the jews hit me and when i say "ho ho ho" the women hit me.

i can't win.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 23, 2018 08:53 AM (Pg+x7)

221 216
Article at American Thinker about Aunt Ruthy doesn't paint a rosy
picture. But sure in 2 weeks she will be right as rain back at doing
what she does best, tearing down the constitution.

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2018 08:50 AM (/rm4P)

They will "brace her up" like Scankles during that last campaign and sit her in her chair. Or she will just continue "voting" from her hospital bed. Which, in fact, it is her staff voting for her which is illegal.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 08:53 AM (mpXpK)

222 217
What's a Honey Wagon?

And does it harm the bees?

Posted by: Occasional Brain Fart at December 23, 2018 08:51 AM (cqNba)

That's the tank truck that comes around to pump your septic tank.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 08:54 AM (mpXpK)

223 Mornin' from a chilly WeaselAcres.

Posted by: Weasel - Senior Special Assistant to bluebell for NoVaMoMe 2019 at December 23, 2018 08:54 AM (nY68e)

224 Okay... I'm out.

Have a blessed day, everyone. Merry Christmas!

Posted by: Slapweasel at December 23, 2018 08:54 AM (Ckg4U)

225 "Reread War and Peace? In the original Klingon, of course."

Maybe star in a TV exercise show for older folk.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 23, 2018 08:54 AM (cqNba)

226 Successful launch and first stage separation!

Now into the first of two second stage burns.

Because they needed maximum performance from the first stage, it will not be recovered on this mission. The first successful first stage landing occurred almost exactly three years ago, on Dec. 21, 2015. They've landed dozens of times since then. Today a Falcon 9 *without* landing legs and grid fins looks weird.

Posted by: rickl at December 23, 2018 08:54 AM (sdi6R)

227 Free Bill Cosby!

If it's good enough for Mumamamia, it's good enough for Bill.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 23, 2018 08:55 AM (Vvp+R)

228 " It looks like every parking lot is filled with tents...wow.... "

And not a single Port-a-potty to be seen?

The ~~spice~~ shit must flow.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 23, 2018 08:56 AM (cqNba)

229 "Honey Wagon" is cockney rhyming slang for Dunny / Dungy Wagon.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 23, 2018 08:57 AM (cyk+3)

230 Have a good one, slap.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 23, 2018 08:57 AM (cqNba)

231 Wow, heat wave. Temps just reached 32F after the sun has been up since 0730.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 08:57 AM (mpXpK)

232 First second stage burn is complete; now entering a 57 minute coast phase before the second burn.

Posted by: rickl at December 23, 2018 08:58 AM (sdi6R)

233 Books up

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 08:58 AM (mpXpK)

234 nood

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 23, 2018 09:00 AM (mfOi4)

235 231 Wow, heat wave. Temps just reached 32F after the sun has been up since 0730.
Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 08:57 AM (mpXpK)

It got up to 60 degrees here in PA on Thursday or Friday. It's chillier than that now.

Posted by: rickl at December 23, 2018 09:01 AM (sdi6R)

236 Friday, it was. The first day of winter.

Posted by: rickl at December 23, 2018 09:02 AM (sdi6R)

237 Looks like my comment disappeared.

Stopped the Sword of Truth Series re-read after the 3rd book. It was starting to bog down. Now working on the Mecedes Lackey series of the Elemental Masters. On Book 2 now, but it is really book 3 since the first one came out before this series started as a stand-alone. But it is really book 1.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 09:06 AM (mpXpK)

238 And now I post it on the wrong thread.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 09:07 AM (mpXpK)

239 Knights of Columbus, a Catholic religious leaning organization

I think the Knights are more than just "Catholic leaning" , since the first two requirements for membership are "Catholic, male".

Posted by: Fox2! at December 23, 2018 09:11 AM (s7y11)

240 239 I think the Knights are more than just "Catholic
leaning" , since the first two requirements for membership are
"Catholic, male".

Posted by: Fox2! at December 23, 2018 09:11 AM (s7y11)

Perhaps I needed some punctuation there. I know you are required to be a Catholic to join their group. So perhaps it should have been worded as a Catholic Organization that is religious leaning.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2018 09:16 AM (mpXpK)

241 81 the five branches of government. Executive, Legislative, Judicial, Media, and Poem.
Posted by: Quint at December 23, 2018 06:46 AM (n13/j)

Nice one!

Posted by: m at December 23, 2018 09:36 AM (5k7/f)

242 #53 m. I love Yorkshire Gold!

Posted by: AnnaS at December 23, 2018 10:06 AM (l4l/z)

243 67 This is hypothetical-ish.

Let's say I have a $10 coupon and it's good till March, we'll say. I go to the store, buy a $30 gift, use my $10 coupon, give them $20 and go on my merry little way.

A couple days later, I find out my aunt already has says item I bought. I take the item back, and they give me back...$20.

I guess my question/argument is: isn't the purpose of a return to make you equal to where you were before you purchased the item? Well, before I purchased the item, I had a $10 coupon to use, and now I don't. I can understand them not wanting to give $30 to someone who spent $20 BUT.

Wouldn't the ideal thing to do be refund $20 and give them another $10 coupon to use? And, if that's not possible, then refunding $30 is the other option. I am handing them back a $30 item, they should hand me $30.

Honestly, they are just shooting themselves in the foot, because with that $10 coupon, I would have come back to their store and bought something else. And, now I won't.

Am I being reasonable/making sense?
Posted by: TickledPink at December 23, 2018 06:34 AM (VpnSm)

Forget it. You do like I did. I announced one Christmas that I didn't want gifts from anyone the next Christmas. And in return, don't expect any from me. They agreed.

They liked it so well that gift giving is out for everyone except the kids. Kids get a Santa Clause.

Posted by: Sooner at December 23, 2018 10:14 AM (Fs5vw)

244 Actually the five branches of Government are Executive, Legislative, Judicial, Media, and Mob.

Posted by: vivi at December 23, 2018 10:31 AM (11H2y)

245 vivi - would have went Executive, Legislative, Judicial, Leftist Media, and Swamp Creatures but to each his own.

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2018 10:53 AM (/rm4P)

246 I am fine for letting everyone in by that statue in the NY harbor. stop the flood into tx though. get very central america here.

Posted by: TX 32 orphan at December 23, 2018 11:03 AM (Wa5hI)

247 That jackass doxing GoFundMe wall contributors is a great example of why we're beyond the point of setting things with the first, and proper, box.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at December 23, 2018 11:46 AM (67XdO)

248 Test

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