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"Shut Up," The Professor Explained...

Most U.S. College Students Afraid to Disagree with Professors

Many U.S. college professors now regularly share their own social and political beliefs in class, and their students feel increasingly afraid to disagree. That’s according to a new national survey of undergraduates due out next week.

When students were asked if they’ve had “any professors or course instructors that have used class time to express their own social or political beliefs that are completely unrelated to the subject of the course,” 52% of respondents said that this occurs “often,” while 47% responded, “not often.”

How does this differ from sexual harassment in the workplace? A professor has total control over the grades of his students, and subjecting them to political indoctrination that must be accepted on pain of grade penalty is just like a boss demanding sex in exchange for job security. Well, maybe not identical, but it is an abuse of power and should be dealt with in the same way.

He called me into his office and showed me his Marxist dialectic! And then made me touch it!

#metoo for politics!

Posted by: CBD at 12:15 PM




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1 As I teach business I can usually keep politics out of the discussion.
And I go out of my way to generate discussion. But then I'm lazy. The more they talk, the less I have to.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 28, 2018 12:17 PM (0tfLf)

2 Teach monkey business!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 28, 2018 12:19 PM (aKsyK)

3 Just Leftist seminaries

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2018 12:19 PM (T4oHT)

4
85% of the 47% who said "not often" were too scared to say differently.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2018 12:21 PM (LsBY9)

5
Hello?.. (lo?).. (lo?)

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2018 12:24 PM (LsBY9)

6 How does this differ from sexual harassment in the workplace? A professor has total control over the grades of his students, and subjecting them to political indoctrination that must be accepted on pain of grade penalty is just like a boss demanding sex in exchange for job security.

This.

Of course, part of the problem is that the courses where this occurs are graded subjectively, so the professor can ding someone at will ("your essay was deficient in that ...").

In the STEM subjects exams, etc. are objective. You can either solve the problems, or you can't. There's really very little scope for carrying out personal vendettas. You might detest some little hairball, but he worked the problems correctly, and that's that.

Also, exams are typically graded by TAs, not the professor, so as not to waste his time (the university would rather he wrote grant proposals to bring in money). In large courses, generally one or two TAs grade a particular problem, so again little scope for vendettas. And if the hairball in question should be dinged by someone (I never had this happen), you can your boots he'll be at your door to squawk about it, and you pretty much have to set it to rights.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 12:25 PM (YqDXo)

7 It's worse than you think. My son had a professor who was openly hostile to young white males. The school admin was actually afraid to address the issue, going so far as to tell my son to check his privilege. He tried to keep his head down, but he was already singled out as "that guy" on campus. He ended up deciding that he was more interested in getting a trade. He'll be done with welding school by Christmas.
I'm very proud of him.

Posted by: UDM at October 28, 2018 12:25 PM (cuC7S)

8 At college age one should be capable of nodding agreement while thinking the prof is a loon and is wasting your time and tuition going off subject.

Now the teachers who do this crap in K-12 are a big problem and also its a problem that these propagandists are so thick that even the discerning student is hard pressed to find courses/colleges where 1/2 or more of their time and tuition are not wasted by the prof's commie screeds.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 28, 2018 12:26 PM (cLj/v)

9 Good way to make people resent liberals and see them for what they are.

Posted by: ... at October 28, 2018 12:26 PM (uEbPt)

10 Prager often gets calls from conservative students who say any result showing a conservative opinion or answer can result in sever repercussions like bad grades or no recommendations

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2018 12:26 PM (T4oHT)

11 Oh, forgot to say....back to lurking...

Posted by: UDM at October 28, 2018 12:27 PM (cuC7S)

12 Also, it is totally unprofessional to interject your political or social views in your lecturing, regardless of what you're teaching.

This is an instance where the dean should put his foot in the offender's ass.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 12:28 PM (YqDXo)

13 I would not last 2 weeks in any college in this here Country save a few Christian ones. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 28, 2018 12:30 PM (Fh8wK)

14 The school admin was actually afraid to address the issue, going so far as to tell my son to check his privilege.

I wonder if anyone has ever done the obvious, when told to check his privilege: hook his thumb in the waistband of his pants, look down, and say, "I checked it, and yep, it's still there."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 12:30 PM (YqDXo)

15 Also, it is totally unprofessional to interject your political or social views in your lecturing, regardless of what you're teaching.

How about when I have sharp tools in your mouth...that's ok right?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 28, 2018 12:30 PM (Fh8wK)

16 UDM: CONGRATS to your son. These days with Great Courses and the internet anyone can fill in as much classic Liberal Arts, and business courses like accounting, marketing etc as they want and have self discipline to do. And welders make great money.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 28, 2018 12:31 PM (cLj/v)

17
And Prog professors will say conservative students deserve their bad grades because conservatives are rigid, unintellectual thinkers. This is the same justification used for not hiring professors who don't toe the proper ideological line.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2018 12:31 PM (LsBY9)

18 13 I would not last 2 weeks in any college in this here Country save a few Christian ones. Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 28, 2018 12:30 PM (Fh8wK)


Neither would I. I'd last about ten minutes in academia today.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 12:31 PM (YqDXo)

19
Oh, forgot to say....back to lurking...

Posted by: UDM at October 28, 2018 12:27 PM (cuC7S)


Lurk less, talk more. They let me in here, which is the Mendoza Line of commenting.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2018 12:32 PM (LsBY9)

20 7
It's worse than you think. My son had a professor who was openly hostile
to young white males. The school admin was actually afraid to address
the issue, going so far as to tell my son to check his privilege. He
tried to keep his head down, but he was already singled out as "that
guy" on campus. He ended up deciding that he was more interested in
getting a trade. He'll be done with welding school by Christmas.

I'm very proud of him.

Posted by: UDM at October 28, 2018 12:25 PM (cuC7S)


Good for him, UDM! My son didn't even tackle college. He thought he couldn't do math. So he went to work as a tankerman, loading and unloading tank barges. He makes better money than most of his peers.

Oh, and he called the other day to tell me he's taking an online math course. Wonders never cease.

G'morning, deplorables.


Posted by: creeper at October 28, 2018 12:32 PM (ALzcx)

21 Afraid, or they know the professor just won't shut up if contradicted in class?

I had a teacher in my electronics class who would go off script at the drop of a hat, and I learned DO NOT ENGAGE.

Electronics! Surely the most neutral of topics.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 28, 2018 12:33 PM (kQs4Y)

22 My entire educational experience consisted of disagreeing with teachers/professors and hiding that fact from them. Most of the time it was about their supposed area of expertise, though, not politics.

All STEM courses excepted, though, they mostly actually knew their stuff.

Exception:
I got kicked out of a science class in 6th grade for insisting that the doppler effect applied to light as well of sound, in contradiction to what the education major teacher believed.

Posted by: West at October 28, 2018 12:33 PM (Dhcvl)

23 No, no, UDM. No more lurking. You've outed yourself as an able commenter. Now you have to post.

Posted by: creeper at October 28, 2018 12:33 PM (ALzcx)

24 This is the same justification used for not hiring professors who don't toe the proper ideological line.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2018 12:31 PM (LsBY9)


They've adopted a much more subtle - and cynical - approach, namely, requiring faculty applicants to submit an essay on what they've done (or will do) to promote "diversity" and/or "LGBTQEIEIO 'rights.'" In essence, requiring applicants to bend the knee to leftist crap even to be considered.

How many conservatives would do that? It's equivalent to requiring an essay on what you've done to advance the Democrat Party's prospects.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 12:34 PM (YqDXo)

25 So eager to dictate what students must believe, but very indignant when lecture recordings are made public.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 28, 2018 12:34 PM (mS+Df)

26 Also, it is totally unprofessional to interject your political or social views in your lecturing, regardless of what you're teaching.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 12:28 PM (YqDXo)

Probably the best instructor I had at Berkeley is, I have since discovered, a rabid leftist. But he never gave us even the tiniest hint of his politics.

And that is as it should be.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 28, 2018 12:34 PM (wYseH)

27 As the professors walk out to their Subaru Foresters with the QUESTION AUTHORITY bumper stickers on the paint.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Google Is Always Listening - Link in nic at October 28, 2018 12:34 PM (LX21o)

28 Thanks PaleRider! He's a smart kid, just couldn't keep his views off of his face or from coming out of his mouth. If he had been a bit older, perhaps he would have had more discretion. He's really enjoying welding though!

Posted by: UDM at October 28, 2018 12:35 PM (cuC7S)

29 My daughter had a professor who told the class that if they didn't vote for Obama for president, they were racists.

Posted by: washrivergal at October 28, 2018 12:35 PM (Kcf2u)

30
I had a teacher in my electronics class who would go off script at the drop of a hat, and I learned DO NOT ENGAGE.

Electronics! Surely the most neutral of topics.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes


Did xe teach indigenous electronics?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 28, 2018 12:35 PM (aKsyK)

31 Paul Ryan: Unfortunately the Right Now Practices Alinskys Tribal Identity Politics

FUCK YOU, get lost already asshole

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 28, 2018 12:35 PM (Fh8wK)

32 Posted by: West at October 28, 2018 12:33 PM (Dhcvl)

Yes...we have a red shift in more ways than one...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 28, 2018 12:36 PM (wYseH)

33 Also, it is totally unprofessional to interject your political or social views in your lecturing, regardless of what you're teaching.


**********


Well, hang on a second. Here's a scenario, granted, not in a classroom setting, but faculty teaching nonetheless:

As a university physician, when teaching residents or students about the approach to diagnostic evaluation of a given condition, would you consider it unprofessional to include a discussion of how much a test costs and who is paying for it at the end of the day? Because that discussion quickly turns to personal views on the morality of that issue.

Posted by: Edna Mode at October 28, 2018 12:36 PM (mvenn)

34 Paul Ryan: Unfortunately the Right Now Practices Alinskys Tribal Identity Politics

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A bit of an ouroboros there, isn't it?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Google Is Always Listening - Link in nic at October 28, 2018 12:36 PM (LX21o)

35 Hey y'all!

Had a great church service and am about to enjoy a potluck.

Posted by: SMH at October 28, 2018 12:36 PM (Ae45Z)

36 But he never gave us even the tiniest hint of his politics.

And that is as it should be.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 28, 2018 12:34 PM (wYseH)

Just like me, You'd never guess what my politics are

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 28, 2018 12:36 PM (Fh8wK)

37 Exception:
I got kicked out of a science class in 6th grade for insisting that the doppler effect applied to light as well of sound, in contradiction to what the education major teacher believed.

Posted by: West at October 28, 2018 12:33 PM (Dhcvl)


Good for you. Pet peeve #17,453: science education majors trying to hold themselves out as scientists. If you notice, they'll make pronouncements on, e.g., global warming, inviting the conclusion that they're scientists. On further investigation, one finds that they are in science education, not science. Grrrr.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 12:36 PM (YqDXo)

38
OT: It's a sunny, warm day here in Brazoria County and our little flower garden is overrun with butterflies.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2018 12:36 PM (LsBY9)

39 Gulagademia.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 28, 2018 12:36 PM (oVJmc)

40 /sock off, incredible though it may be.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 28, 2018 12:37 PM (mvenn)

41 7. Your son will be able to write his own ticket in the Philly area. Welders are in great demand since few have that skill anymore.

Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2018 12:37 PM (knNho)

42 Just like me, You'd never guess what my politics are

Me either... I'm in NorCal and I value my life

Posted by: It's me donna at October 28, 2018 12:38 PM (O2RFr)

43 Dem Sen. Coons: Trump Has Used His Megaphone to Energize Folks Based on Division

Look at the bold pan calling the kettle black?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 28, 2018 12:38 PM (Fh8wK)

44 The last class I took, at community college was calculus for biz students. The instructor was from Ireland and chose to share his opinions of GWB. I wish he'd gone back to Ireland.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 28, 2018 12:38 PM (Lqy/e)

45 Dem Sen. Coons: Trump Has Used His Megaphone to Energize Folks Based on Division

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Things like race, sex, religion, and sexual preferences!!!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Google Is Always Listening - Link in nic at October 28, 2018 12:38 PM (LX21o)

46 Been sitting around contemplating retirement. Thought it might be fun to enroll as a student in local colleges for the purpose of "adult enrichment" and provide a different POV for the youngsters. Then, when I get kicked out, unleash a tsunami of lawsuits.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at October 28, 2018 12:38 PM (fYr5Q)

47 Just like me, You'd never guess what my politics are

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 28, 2018 12:36 PM (Fh8wK)

Northeastern Joooo?

You are obviously a liberal, with socialistic leanings.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 28, 2018 12:38 PM (wYseH)

48 Just like me, You'd never guess what my politics are

Me either... I'm in NorCal and I value my life
Posted by: It's me donna at October 28, 2018 12:38 PM (O2RFr)

Cough Cough I was being a "Tad" sarcastic....I think one look at me and they'd know. LOL That is why most people cross the street when they see me coming?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 28, 2018 12:39 PM (Fh8wK)

49
Cough Cough I was being a "Tad" sarcastic..

I wasn't

Posted by: It's me donna at October 28, 2018 12:39 PM (O2RFr)

50 Probably the best instructor I had at Berkeley is, I have since discovered, a rabid leftist. But he never gave us even the tiniest hint of his politics.

And that is as it should be.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 28, 2018 12:34 PM (wYseH)


One of my favorite teachers in high school was a raving Lexus liberal civics teacher who gave fair grades for well-supported papers that argued against her personal politics and savaged lazy papers that echoed her beliefs. Nothing but respect for that.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 28, 2018 12:40 PM (mS+Df)

51 Just like me, You'd never guess what my politics are

Me either... I'm in NorCal and I value my life
Posted by: It's me donna at October 28, 2018 12:38 PM (O2RFr)

Same here.

Posted by: Surfperch at October 28, 2018 12:40 PM (2m1vT)

52 As a university physician, when teaching residents or students about the approach to diagnostic evaluation of a given condition, would you consider it unprofessional to include a discussion of how much a test costs and who is paying for it at the end of the day? Because that discussion quickly turns to personal views on the morality of that issue.
Posted by: Edna Mode at October 28, 2018 12:36 PM (mvenn)


Nope. Not at all. I can see that discussion of the false positive/ false negative considerations could (and probably) should segue into discussions of costs (at least in the false positive case).

But who's paying? Hmmm. I think that that's best left out, for two reasons. One is that physicians in training are bright, and they'll probably about that on their own. The other is that a discussion of who pays does naturally lead into one's politics, almost ineluctably.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 12:40 PM (YqDXo)

53 Good afternoon.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 28, 2018 12:40 PM (89T5c)

54 6
Of course, part of the problem is that the courses where this occurs are graded subjectively, so the professor can ding someone at will ("your essay was deficient in that ...").

In the STEM subjects exams, etc. are objective. You can either solve the problems, or you can't. There's really very little scope for carrying out personal vendettas.........
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 12:25 PM (YqDXo)
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THIS.

I took a lot of math courses in college, actually had a minor in it.
When people asked me why, I'd laugh and say it was to protect my GPA. But I wasn't joking.
We're not talking about an "easy A" here --- but we are talking about a SECURE one.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 28, 2018 12:41 PM (Rxduq)

55 41. We have some family near Norfolk. I'm guessing he might want to go to the shipyard. He'd be away from home, but still have some family nearby.

Posted by: UDM at October 28, 2018 12:41 PM (cuC7S)

56 Because the tradesmen are overwhelmingly Trump supporters, we Deplorables have the Kewl Kids by the short and curlies. Can u imagine if all the trades went on strike against the reds?

Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2018 12:41 PM (knNho)

57 This ties into the tremendous work Heterodox Academy is trying to perform in colleges all over the country. If you have any influence in your alma mater I suggest you take a look, and maybe direct influential deans or faculty members here too!

https://heterodoxacademy.org/

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Deranged and Deplorable #ItsABigDay at October 28, 2018 12:41 PM (Z216Q)

58 Teachers like to post over on Democratic Underground about how they make sure to tell their elementary-high school students about #orange-man bad. It's pretty sickening. They also like to complain about how the younger kids are resistive to their indoctrination, and don't arrive in class as SJWs and ready for resistance. There may be some hope left.

Posted by: Grimaldi at October 28, 2018 12:42 PM (3MG/9)

59 Congrats to your son as well Creeper. Universities are making themselves obsolete and its a bit sad; there is something to be said for having a group of peers to discuss things with and the competition or keep up with the herd aspect as motivation to spend the time to study. Perhaps after the commies implode the universities we can get new institutions actually devoted to teaching/learning.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 28, 2018 12:43 PM (cLj/v)

60 Can u imagine if all the trades went on strike against the reds?
Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2018 12:41 PM (knNho)

We'd make sure it never happens.

Posted by: The Trade Unions at October 28, 2018 12:43 PM (2m1vT)

61 >>31
Paul Ryan: Unfortunately the Right Now Practices Alinskys Tribal Identity Politics



FUCK YOU, get lost already asshole

Posted by: Nevergiveup

Yes. Fuck Paul Ryan in particular.

McCarthy is not much better unfortunately. He should never be allowed to become Speaker.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 28, 2018 12:43 PM (r9UYA)

62 So we're not doing nood anymore?

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2018 12:45 PM (sdi6R)

63 One of my favorite teachers in high school was a raving Lexus liberal civics teacher who gave fair grades for well-supported papers that argued against her personal politics and savaged lazy papers that echoed her beliefs. Nothing but respect for that.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 28, 2018 12:40 PM (mS+Df)


To maintain intellectual honesty, she should have assigned students papers to provide arguments against her views, regardless of the students' personal views, and graded them on their ability to muster sound arguments in that direction.

It's a good test of intellectual prowess. I used to do that in industry when someone came to me with a proposal. After he presented it, and argued for it, I'd ask him to give his best argument(s) against it. If he had none, and couldn't generate any, that counted against him in my book.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 12:45 PM (YqDXo)

64 I knew not to disagree with my professors in college 30 years ago. The difference now is is that children are not taught to think critically or appreciate differing beliefs in elementary and high schools. Instead its an indoctrination that begins at age 6 or so. The problem isn't higher education its much earlier.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 28, 2018 12:45 PM (rnXGe)

65 Just want to say you all are awesome! I'll try to delurk more often in future....

Posted by: UDM at October 28, 2018 12:45 PM (cuC7S)

66 As I teach business I can usually keep politics out of the discussion.


I teach German. The closest I've come to political is "the language has gender. It just does".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 28, 2018 12:45 PM (fuK7c)

67 Assholes like Ryan and McCarthy are what keep me as a registered independent.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 28, 2018 12:45 PM (89T5c)

68 34 Paul Ryan: Unfortunately the Right Now Practices Alinskys Tribal Identity Politics

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A bit of an ouroboros there, isn't it?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Google Is Always Listening - Link in nic at October 28, 2018 12:36 PM (LX21o)

That depends on which tribe you think you are a member of.

Posted by: West at October 28, 2018 12:46 PM (Dhcvl)

69 Paul Ryan: Unfortunately the Right Now Practices Alinskys Tribal Identity Politics


Fortunately, the Normals Are Giving the Left a Dose of Their Own Medicine

FIFY, Ryan

Posted by: Hands at October 28, 2018 12:46 PM (786Ro)

70 But who's paying? Hmmm. I think that that's best left out, for two reasons. One is that physicians in training are bright, and they'll probably about that on their own.


************


Which actually is how I sort of handle this scenario. I lead them right up to the edge, something along the lines of "When considering which test to order, you cannot ignore the question of cost and who is actually paying for it, balanced against the perceived utility of the test.", then sort of leave a parting thought, "And in the current healthcare system..." shrug.

I leave it to them to connect the dots. The smart ones probably do.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 28, 2018 12:47 PM (mvenn)

71 Paul Ryan has been a major disappointment, a true "summer soldier", not someone you would want as your back up.

Posted by: Creek at October 28, 2018 12:47 PM (13BOh)

72 Teaching man is always right. Ignorance is strength. Orange man bad.

Posted by: 47% of College Students at October 28, 2018 12:47 PM (2m1vT)

73 Paul Ryan: Unfortunately the Right Now Practices Alinskys Tribal Identity Politics

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I might be offended by this if I understood what the hell he was talking about.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 28, 2018 12:48 PM (+y/Ru)

74 hahaha So what Paul Ryan...so what if we do? Does it make Mommy mad that we're employing her hero's tactics to great effect? And guess what Paulie No Nuts: We're just getting started!

Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2018 12:49 PM (knNho)

75 I teach German. The closest I've come to political is "the language has gender. It just does".

-
But what if a masculine noun self identifies as feminine?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 28, 2018 12:49 PM (+y/Ru)

76 7 It's worse than you think. My son had a professor who was openly hostile to young white males. The school admin was actually afraid to address the issue, going so far as to tell my son to check his privilege. He tried to keep his head down, but he was already singled out as "that guy" on campus. He ended up deciding that he was more interested in getting a trade. He'll be done with welding school by Christmas.
I'm very proud of him.
Posted by: UDM at October 28, 2018 12:25 PM (cuC7S)


Good for him. As the movie said, "The only way to win is not to play."

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2018 12:50 PM (sdi6R)

77 It's not just politics, of course - try dissenting from any part of LBGTQXIRSAZ ideology in class, and see what happens to you.

Having Barrack Obama's view of gay marriage in 2014 is no longer acceptable.

Posted by: The ARC of History at October 28, 2018 12:52 PM (I2/tG)

78 One of the great ironies of our time: the free speech movement began at Berkeley.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 28, 2018 12:52 PM (+y/Ru)

79 As usual

Posted by: Carol at October 28, 2018 12:53 PM (NKOy9)

80 #2 son is taking a government course in college and say the professor is pretty balanced. He should know, he's a Rush baby. He even told me one day that some of the stuff that comes up in class he had already learned from Rush.

Posted by: freaked at October 28, 2018 12:53 PM (UdKB7)

81 Free Speech on College Campuses and on the Left has evolved into:

"Free Speech for me, But not for Thee"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 28, 2018 12:53 PM (Fh8wK)

82 This is why college graduates have no critical thinking skills. They are indoctrinated into group think in college.

Posted by: Mark at October 28, 2018 12:53 PM (bOOsx)

83 Doctors should be aware of who pays for it. I had a falling out with my pulmonologist over him wanting to do a bronoscopy. It would have done nothing for my treatment and I would have been stuck with the 5k or so deductible.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 28, 2018 12:53 PM (Lqy/e)

84 But what if a masculine noun self identifies as feminine?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 28, 2018 12:49 PM (+y/Ru)


Mark Twain had a whole writeup on that.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 28, 2018 12:53 PM (mS+Df)

85 The whole fecking country is getting Gaslighted and Reichstag'd by the DS Media Complex and certain neutered Soros lapdogs suddenly feel the need to Alinsky shame us. Back to the Gloryhole with your bad self, Paulie. You're not wanted anymore.

Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2018 12:53 PM (knNho)

86 78 One of the great ironies of our time: the free speech movement began at Berkeley.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 28, 2018 12:52 PM (+y/Ru)


It wasn't really about free speech. It was about Communist agitation. So the Left has been consistent.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 12:54 PM (YqDXo)

87 But what if a masculine noun self identifies as feminine?

LOL. Zemfira, a female Russian singer, created a scandal about twenty years ago by writing a love song in Russian where Zemfira's love interest had feminine noun endings, not masculine noun endings.

Posted by: The ARC of History at October 28, 2018 12:55 PM (I2/tG)

88 Tangentially, related: Gab.ai is under siege at present and apparently its host is terminating services tomorrow. Chalk up another victory for the left, as one more platform to express contrarian and/or conservative views is eradicated by the Borg.

Posted by: Old Dude at October 28, 2018 12:55 PM (LGXGf)

89 But he never gave us even the tiniest hint of his politics.

And that is as it should be.



Was it a non-political course? Because then it might have been appropriate.

One of my favorite was in poli.sci. where the star professor gave a lecture but the class was taught in sections by TAs.

Our TA came in and said "confession of bias. I am a Reagan Republican". (Prof was lefty). But I love that phrase "confession of bias".

She was saying this is where I'm coming from, take everything with a grain of salt, and if you want to challenge me this is the basis.

It's one of the most honest things I ever ran into in school.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 28, 2018 12:55 PM (fuK7c)

90 Back in the 70s, I started to take Intro to Psychology. Interesting until the Prof. said that belief in God was a form of mental illness. I should have raised my hand and asked him "Is this the official position of the discipline, the American Psychological Society or whatever? Or is this merely your opinion?" But, alas, I was ridiculously shy. I was taking 20 units and decided this, as a pure elective, was unnecessary. I dropped the course.

Posted by: JAS at October 28, 2018 12:55 PM (3HNOQ)

91 Who hosts gab?

Posted by: freaked at October 28, 2018 12:55 PM (UdKB7)

92 Teach music here- politics doesn't really apply as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: Little Boomers at October 28, 2018 12:56 PM (6fu25)

93 McCarthy is not much better unfortunately. He should never be allowed to become Speaker.


He won't !

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at October 28, 2018 12:56 PM (O2RFr)

94 https://youtu.be/1iAYhQsQhSY
He's probably leftist as heck, but this song speaks to the moron in me.

Posted by: Sunday morning coming down at October 28, 2018 12:56 PM (rAJPv)

95 LOL. Zemfira, a female Russian singer, created a scandal about twenty years ago by writing a love song in Russian where Zemfira's love interest had feminine noun endings, not masculine noun endings.
Posted by: The ARC of History at October 28, 2018 12:55 PM (I2/tG)


Duolingo pisses me off with content such as (making this up), "Wo ist ihre Frau?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 12:56 PM (YqDXo)

96 Tangentially, related: Gab.ai is under siege at present and apparently its host is terminating services tomorrow. Chalk up another victory for the left, as one more platform to express contrarian and/or conservative views is eradicated by the Borg.
Posted by: Old Dude at October 28, 2018 12:55 PM (LGXGf)

But Twitter is still fine and daddy with Colypso Louie and his anti-semitic termite rants? Oki Doki

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 28, 2018 12:56 PM (Fh8wK)

97 77
It's not just politics, of course - try dissenting from any part of LBGTQXIRSAZ ideology in class, and see what happens to you.



Having Barrack Obama's view of gay marriage in 2014 is no longer acceptable.

Posted by: The ARC of History at October 28, 2018 12:52 PM (I2/tG)

I don't understand what undergrad classes deal with that kind of ideology in the first place. When I went to college undergrad was all basically history and fact. So much so that as a Poli Sci major I added American History as a 2nd major because the material was identical and it seemed like a quick cheat for a 2nd degree. Nobody is solving the burning questions of mankind or winning debates in Poli Sci 101. That's more of "how a bill becomes a law" type stuff. Every now and then a freshman would show up and try to start arguments about the meaning of life but the profs shut that down pretty quick and told them to save it for grad school.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 28, 2018 12:56 PM (rnXGe)

98
Been sitting around contemplating retirement. Thought it might be fun to
enroll as a student in local colleges for the purpose of "adult
enrichment" and provide a different POV for the youngsters. Then, when I
get kicked out, unleash a tsunami of lawsuits.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. BarkyI have begun to take the free *senior* classes at my local universities. As a condition of enrollment, they make us, and only us, sign a form basically saying we will sit down and shut up and not infect the youngsters with rational, well reasoned thought.
No kidding. They apparently had to many adults telling the leftist assholes to stuff it in class.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 28, 2018 12:57 PM (9rIkM)

99 Prager often gets calls from conservative students who say any result showing a conservative opinion or answer can result in sever repercussions like bad grades or no recommendations

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2018 12:26 PM


Speaking of Prager, he runs some Prager University ads on YouTube. They're rather long, in the three or four minute category. There's one, by an African-American woman which is truly excellent. I've noticed that I run them to the end and they always stop with .01 second left. So you have to hit 'cancel ad' to continue listening to music. Even though you've listened to 99.995 % of the ad.

As always, I suspect the leftists are fvcking with him, so they can say -- according to our statistics -- 'Nobody ever listens all the way through your commercials.'

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at October 28, 2018 12:57 PM (URwyc)

100 A friend used to teach some classes at local state university (until he was squeezed out by incredibly dumb, freak, tenured faculty - despite having best ratings in the department, and actually knowing his topic). His stories, and what happened when I used to talk to his class, really are infuriating and discouraging beyond words. Upperclassmen, many desperate for info/perspective on subjects of interest, and many thankful for the first instructor to teach them how to think and analyze a topic (and in a shocking number of cases, first to teach them how to write).


He got a "teach not preach" award, on precisely this post topic, an award created by students themselves - a concrete expression of their desperation to find professionalism in their professors. This of course was an incredibly damning, probably fatal, and additional mark of The Other for the faculty who squeezed him out.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 28, 2018 12:58 PM (QDnY+)

101 Tell the colleges to check their own privileges

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 28, 2018 12:58 PM (NXmeN)

102 Who hosts gab?
Posted by: freaked at October 28, 2018 12:55 PM (UdKB7)


https://www.cloudflare.com/ hosts the actual content.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 28, 2018 12:59 PM (mS+Df)

103 88
Tangentially, related: Gab.ai is under siege at present and apparently
its host is terminating services tomorrow. Chalk up another victory for
the left, as one more platform to express contrarian and/or conservative
views is eradicated by the Borg.


Posted by: Old Dude at October 28, 2018 12:55 PM (LGXGf)

That's more a victory for entrenched big-tech - Youtube and Facebook. Another by-product of that wonderful Net Neutrality the misguided are in favor of.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 28, 2018 12:59 PM (rnXGe)

104 I've told this story here before... but...

My Daughter was a Sophomore in High School, and had a VERY Liberal English teacher.


Her Assignment? write a research paper... so she did it proving that CO2 could not be driving global warming... Facts, figures, charts, and other implements of destruction included (yes, I helped). We then sent the Paper to my Mom, a retired ENGLISH TEACHER, to make sure it was as close to perfect as possible.


The teacher gave her a D... without a single red mark on the paper having to do with English, but all disagreeing with WHAT she wrote.


I was in the Principals office within a couple of days, talking about lawyers.


She got an A, and was transferred out of that teachers class.

Posted by: Don Q. at October 28, 2018 12:59 PM (NgKpN)

105 Welcome, white male, to our university!

We need a punching bag, and someone for all the "woke" students to feel superior too!

Keep your head down, denounce your white privilege and your toxic masculinity in the mandatory self-criticism sessions, participate in all the approved political movements, and you'll do just fine (sorta).

Not that we'll ever hire you after you graduate, pig.

Posted by: Your Local University at October 28, 2018 12:59 PM (I2/tG)

106 78 One of the great ironies of our time: the free speech movement began at Berkeley.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 28, 2018 12:52 PM (+y/Ru)


One of Ayn Rand's best nonfiction essays was about the 1964 Berkeley Free Speech Movement.

She had their number right off the bat. She also noted how quickly the cowardly administrators caved in to the student radicals.

That set the "Sixties" in motion, and it just went downhill from there.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2018 01:00 PM (sdi6R)

107 They apparently had to many adults telling the leftist assholes to stuff it in class.



Like Rodney Dangerfield in "Back to School."

Posted by: JAS at October 28, 2018 01:00 PM (3HNOQ)

108 Been sitting around contemplating retirement. Thought it might be fun to enroll as a student in local colleges for the purpose of "adult enrichment" and provide a different POV for the youngsters.

My wife suggested I do that at a local JC where one of our spawn had encountered a hard-left instructor.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:00 PM (YqDXo)

109 I am so sick and tired of people on FB posting against Anti-Semitism AFTER an incident like the one in Pittsburgh...Fuck them. I fight Anti-Semitism everyday now matter where it comes from.

Jonny come latelys

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 28, 2018 01:00 PM (Fh8wK)

110 as a Poli Sci major I added American History as a 2nd major because the material was identical and it seemed like a quick cheat for a 2nd degree.


I was a poli.sci. major (until my last term, 'nuther story) and thought I didn't like history. But I took mostly international courses and most of what happened in politics was a reaction to people being mad at what had just happened in history.

So I learned history accidentally.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 28, 2018 01:00 PM (fuK7c)

111 Tell the colleges to check their own privileges
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 28, 2018 12:58 PM (NXmeN)


This, but with the three finger snap thing so they KNOW you aren't kidding.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 28, 2018 01:00 PM (mS+Df)

112 We need a punching bag, and someone for all the "woke" students to feel superior too!

Posted by: Your Local University at October 28, 2018 12:59 PM (I2/tG)


Also to pay full freight so we can give free tuition to students who have no business being there.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:01 PM (YqDXo)

113 60 Not referring to the Unions, even though a significant number of the brothers love Trump. Talking about the guys homeowners call to do their plumbing, drywall, electric, masonry, roofing etc. I know contractors who apply a Libtard Tax when they deliver estimates.

Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2018 01:01 PM (knNho)

114 It's interesting to watch RealClearPolitics and 538 House projections diverge. Both think the Demofascists will take the House but, as of today, RCP says barely (221-214) while Silver is projecting more like 231-204. The differences are in a bunch of toss-up House seats where Silver thinks the Dems will run the table and RCP doesn't.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Deranged and Deplorable #ItsABigDay at October 28, 2018 01:01 PM (Z216Q)

115
Listening to the magnificent apotheosis of the Oresteia overture by Sergei Taneyev. When there are so many beautiful things like this that make one's eyes mist and throat tighten with emotion, it's obscene to have no-account scolds and petty bullies harass us decent normals.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2018 01:02 PM (LsBY9)

116 hey, one of our own gets a headline at Althouse!
"
Wow! It takes the NYT an incredibly long time to answer its question "Why Is CBD Everywhere?"
"

Althouse also reports that Gab.ai might be put out of business...

Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at October 28, 2018 01:04 PM (L01V2)

117 Hopefully, today's students will have much the same reaction as i had when dealing with an SJW English prof in college.

It was a course in writing essays and he would assign some hot button topic of the day and we were supposed to write an essay on what we thought about it.

Easy Peasy, right?

Nope.

On my first 3 essays, I received Fs.

I went over my papers and the were no misspellings and all were grammatically correct.

So, there had to be a mistake.

But, when I went to his office and pointed out the lack of errors, he told me (exact word for word quote):

"I don't like the way you think."

Some mild pushback from me and further elaboration from him led me to understand was that he wanted me to think "properly"- ie. far, very far left, commie version of whatever topic.

I didn't want my GPA ruined so...fine, I'll write you the comfiest commie crap evah.

I got an A in the course and he was happy because he believed he'd gotten a nice "1984" happy ending- that I'd won the battle against myself, I l-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-uved Big Commie.

Nope.

I swore that while a student in his course, he could control what I wrote cuz I needed good grades but he could never control what I thought. And he and his way of thinking were forever my enemies.

Strangely, enough I learned the very same lesson again from an asshole commie history professor 1 years later. And this was at the Univ of Texas!!!!!

I believe a significant number of students are learning the very same lesson that I did.

At least I hope so.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 28, 2018 01:04 PM (CRRq9)

118 Tangentially, related: Gab.ai is under siege at present and apparently its host is terminating services tomorrow. Chalk up another victory for the left, as one more platform to express contrarian and/or conservative views is eradicated by the Borg.
Posted by: Old Dude at October 28, 2018 12:55 PM


I can't confirm the validity of this but I saw some YouTube video claiming the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter pasted a lot of his stuff on Gab.

So there you have it. This is why we can't have nice things.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at October 28, 2018 01:04 PM (URwyc)

119 I don't understand what undergrad classes deal with that kind of ideology in the first place.

My son is a STEM major at the local university. You would not believe the amount of LGBT propaganda provided in the non-STEM classes that he is required to take, even though sexual issues would not appear to be relevant to those non-STEM classes.

It's like the mandatory Marxism-Leninism courses in Soviet universities, only stupider.

Posted by: Your Local University at October 28, 2018 01:04 PM (I2/tG)

120 This is different from when I was in school (recently - only twelve years ago).

There was always a double standard. Back then, students with conservative opinions would be held strictly to the course syllabus and grading standards, where liberal students who parroted the right-think had considerable leeway. A lot of it, really. Show up to a couple class periods/semester, spout some NPC rhetoric for the organ-grinder prof, and you'd pass. Otherwise - you gotta do the work.

Now, conservative ideas are forbidden, and you can't pass with them. It's a subtle, but very important shift in the bias.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 28, 2018 01:04 PM (5aX2M)

121 63........It's a good test of intellectual prowess. I used to do that in industry when someone came to me with a proposal. After he presented it, and argued for it, I'd ask him to give his best argument(s) against it. If he had none, and couldn't generate any, that counted against him in my book.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 12:45 PM (YqDXo)
-----------------------------------
Back in the days when the universities valued rational debate and intellectual power --- I'm talking about the High Middle Ages --- this was a major part of the advanced curriculum.
And NO subject was out of bounds.

You have a finely tuned rational argument for the existence of God? Good for you. Now play Devil's Advocate and argue against it --- and you'd better do it well.

That tradition of university debate persisted for many centuries in one form or another.
Then sometime in the 20th century ..... things changed.





Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 28, 2018 01:05 PM (Rxduq)

122 Posted by: Don Q. at October 28, 2018 12:59 PM (NgKpN)

As previously related, one of our spawn had a HS English teacher who specialized in producing vocabulary sheets with laughably incorrect definitions. What to do - regurgitate her ridiculous definitions, or correct her?

She also had a life-size cutout of Obama in her classroom. No word on whether it or the real one was the brighter of the two.

OTOH, my son is now fully acquainted with all the works of Maya Angelou. Much against his will.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:05 PM (YqDXo)

123

Question:

Does Ace's novella in the sideboob qualify as a "book" we can discuss in the Book Thread?

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at October 28, 2018 01:05 PM (+BZ5R)

124 Gab shutting down?

The Data Wars have begun, and sadly the Free Speech side is the French being Blitzkrieged by the Germans...

Posted by: Don Q. at October 28, 2018 01:05 PM (NgKpN)

125 I was a poli.sci. major (until my last term, 'nuther
story) and thought I didn't like history. But I took mostly
international courses and most of what happened in politics was a
reaction to people being mad at what had just happened in history.



So I learned history accidentally.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 28, 2018 01:00 PM (fuK7c)

I was offered a tech job on Capital Hill my senior year, walked away and never looked back. I've considered going back to get the degrees but only because I was tired of explaining why I dropped out. 95% of college degrees are not worth the paper they're printed on. Higher education has turned into a huge scam.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 28, 2018 01:06 PM (rnXGe)

126 That tradition of university debate persisted for many centuries in one form or another.
Then sometime in the 20th century ..... things changed.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 28, 2018 01:05 PM (Rxduq)

---

I suspect it corresponds closely to the "everyone should go to college" push in the early 90s.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Google Is Always Listening - Link in nic at October 28, 2018 01:06 PM (LX21o)

127
Ohdearlord, the Sunday fake news shows are most infuriating.

These people are NOT disconnected from Reality -- they are LIARS.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at October 28, 2018 01:06 PM (+BZ5R)

128 My son is a STEM major at the local university. You would not believe the amount of LGBT propaganda provided in the non-STEM classes that he is required to take, even though sexual issues would not appear to be relevant to those non-STEM classes.

I guess bringing up the public health problems associated with LGBT crap would be streng verboten ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:07 PM (YqDXo)

129 So Ryan doesn't think his legacy of ineffectual advocacy of stupid ideas is already intact? He needs to add some of the most offensive, dumbest slanders that are now the latest teen craze to his body of work?


"Division", along with "racism", seem to be the most effective and wide-spread ridiculous slanders that get traction among politically stupid and ignorant people (I've seen a lot of it in real life, sadly).


It's basically a 10-yr old's mentality, emotional and irrelevant. I have zero desire to be "united" with the ignorant, racist, authoritarian hordes known as "progressives" or "liberals", or with their vapid discount versions, normal non-political people who marinate in the crap of the institutions dominated by those hordes, and mindlessly parrot their offensive nonsense. I just want these people defeated, marginalized, and given zero influence on the freedom, security, and prosperity of others.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 28, 2018 01:07 PM (QDnY+)

130
I have been a member of the American Chemical Society for 40 years now. Its flagship publication Chemical & Engineering News is now almost unreadable.

Decades ago, it featured actual science and chemical business news. About 10 years ago, its editor got on the Globular Warming bandwagon. Now it's nothing but Diversity, LGBT, Women in Science, sexual harassment, and other "socially informed" hogwash.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2018 01:08 PM (LsBY9)

131 121
Back in the days when the universities valued rational debate and intellectual power --- I'm talking about the High Middle Ages --- this was a major part of the advanced curriculum.
And NO subject was out of bounds.

You have a finely tuned rational argument for the existence of God? Good for you. Now play Devil's Advocate and argue against it --- and you'd better do it well.

That tradition of university debate persisted for many centuries in one form or another.
Then sometime in the 20th century ..... things changed.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 28, 2018 01:05 PM (Rxduq)


Today that's considered the very epitome of White Privilege.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2018 01:09 PM (sdi6R)

132 I can't confirm the validity of this but I saw some
YouTube video claiming the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter pasted a lot of
his stuff on Gab.



So there you have it. This is why we can't have nice things.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at October 28, 2018 01:04 PM (URwyc)

He also posted on Twitter and Facebook but Gab is a threat to their market share and doesn't have the deep pockets yet.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 28, 2018 01:09 PM (rnXGe)

133 I had a teacher in my electronics class who would go off script at the drop of a hat, and I learned DO NOT ENGAGE.

Electronics! Surely the most neutral of topics.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 28, 2018 12:33 PM (kQs4Y)


V = IR

Violence comes from the Idiocy of the Republicans!
Victory will come from the Insurrection of the #Resistance!

#Science!

Posted by: AHE's electronics teacher at October 28, 2018 01:10 PM (/qEW2)

134 It's a miracle that campus conservative groups still exist, given the hostility they face.

Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2018 01:10 PM (knNho)

135
So an anti-Semite posts his vitriol on Gab, and they being a free speech platform, permit it to remain. Hosting service shuts them down.

This is why I got the hell out of blogging. You have two options:

1. Allow everything
2. Police everything

I chose life.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at October 28, 2018 01:10 PM (URwyc)

136 I am so sick and tired of people on FB posting against Anti-Semitism AFTER an incident like the one in Pittsburgh...Fuck them. I fight Anti-Semitism everyday now matter where it comes from.

A number of Oregon Democrats have denounced Trump for fostering the "climate of hate" that allegedly made the Pittsburgh shooter possible.

They didn't raise a peep when Calypso Louie compared Jews to termites, or referred to the "synagogue of Satan", of course.

Posted by: The ARC of History at October 28, 2018 01:10 PM (I2/tG)

137 In a digital economy of this dimension, shouldn't Gab be able to find someone who likes money that is also green? I don't understand how having hosting could be so difficult to arrange (I said "don't understand", meaning if someone does, put me some understanding).



Posted by: rhomboid at October 28, 2018 01:11 PM (QDnY+)

138

The term "anti-semitism" is such bullshit, too.

It's so generic it's meaningless, and it conveniently gives the Left/Democrats cover for their hatred of Israel.

It's ANTI-JEW. These people hate Jews. But only the Jews that aren't on-board with the Jew-Hating Left.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at October 28, 2018 01:11 PM (+BZ5R)

139 I took an Urban Studies course back in college. I was the only "white" guy in the room. It was fun. The very first day the professor started talking about how white people assume their positions in the hierarchy. I raised my hand (and, of course, all eyes went to me expecting me to disagree with her point). Instead, I very sincerely (I was acting) suggested that I consider myself more of an off-beige, not white. I think pointed to the color of the wall. "That's white. I'm beige." I said it dead serious...even though I could give a shit.

For the rest of the semester she always stumbled over the concept every time she wanted to say "white people" and I laughed internally. Little victories are sometimes the most amusing.

Posted by: Orson at October 28, 2018 01:12 PM (Jb1Lo)

140 I'm writing a textbook titled Introduction To Trump Sucks; I'm gonna be rich.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 28, 2018 01:12 PM (Z4rgH)

141 "Division", along with "racism", seem to be the most effective and wide-spread ridiculous slanders that get traction among politically stupid and ignorant people (I've seen a lot of it in real life, sadly).


It's basically a 10-yr old's mentality, emotional and irrelevant. I have zero desire to be "united" with the ignorant, racist, authoritarian hordes known as "progressives" or "liberals", or with their vapid discount versions, normal non-political people who marinate in the crap of the institutions dominated by those hordes, and mindlessly parrot their offensive nonsense. I just want these people defeated, marginalized, and given zero influence on the freedom, security, and prosperity of others.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 28, 2018 01:07 PM (QDnY+)


Pet peeve #17,454: "non-judgmental." Adults exercise judgment every hour of every day, or should. We'll be asked to exercise our collective judgment - such as it is - on Nov. 6.

Exhorting others to be "non-judgmental" is just a ploy to give the unacceptable breathing space to undermine society.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:12 PM (YqDXo)

142 My best teacher was a guy who ran a small HVAC business. Small mom and pop outfit. He taught me every thing about running a small biz. Costumer service, cost control, long and short range planning, money management and industry conventions to find new tech and developING relationship s with peers.

All this a he paid me. This experience was priceless in my future business career.

Posted by: Redenzo at October 28, 2018 01:12 PM (14qvS)

143
It's like all those asshole leftist white people who pretend to believe in White privilege and INTRINSIC racism (in all white people). I hate these people most of all.

It's the same as these Leftist Jews who hate Jews and Israel. They make me sick.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at October 28, 2018 01:13 PM (+BZ5R)

144 They apparently had to many adults telling the leftist assholes to stuff it in class.
I live in a college town and locals are invited to audit courses (for free!), on a space available basis. There too you have to agree not to talk in class. The reason has nothing to do with politics though; it's because the paying customers are really the kids.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Deranged and Deplorable #ItsABigDay at October 28, 2018 01:14 PM (Z216Q)

145 Even getting an engineering degree 40 years ago, our profs used to tell us to grin and bear the first year classes on the "other side" of campus. Back then there was no left or right to math.

Posted by: rammajamma at October 28, 2018 01:14 PM (xceTB)

146 LOL. I did have one Comp. Sci. Prof. from Commie China. His prediction in 1977 was that "in the future, the only jobs will be for engineers and mechanics." He was a very nice guy. But sheesh.

Posted by: JAS at October 28, 2018 01:15 PM (3HNOQ)

147 137
In a digital economy of this dimension, shouldn't Gab be able to find
someone who likes money that is also green? I don't understand how
having hosting could be so difficult to arrange (I said "don't
understand", meaning if someone does, put me some understanding).


Posted by: rhomboid at October 28, 2018 01:11 PM (QDnY+)

This is the biggest argument in favor of Net Neutrality. I mis-typed in my earlier post, I'm in favor of providers being forced to treat all internet traffic equally for this very reason. The censorship of the major social media sites is what has created the concentration of fringe groups on the free-speech upstart alternatives. These crazies need to have their views visible to all for to ridicule, not shut down and forced underground (thus giving it another kind of appeal).

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 28, 2018 01:16 PM (rnXGe)

148 Orson: that is hilarious! Beautiful subversive play.

Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2018 01:16 PM (knNho)

149 I have been a member of the American Chemical Society for 40 years now. Its flagship publication Chemical & Engineering News is now almost unreadable.

Decades ago, it featured actual science and chemical business news. About 10 years ago, its editor got on the Globular Warming bandwagon. Now it's nothing but Diversity, LGBT, Women in Science, sexual harassment, and other "socially informed" hogwash.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2018 01:08 PM (LsBY9)


Oh God, now you've done it. Niagara Falls ... slowly I turn ...

C&EN enrages me every week. The "Women in Science" crap in particular is pushed by the girls who write for C&EN, who are obviously failed scientists, and are bitter about it. They didn't make it because The Patriarchy, doncha know.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:16 PM (YqDXo)

150 In the early '80's it was still possible to disagree with a lefty prof and still get treated with respect--and a good grade.
I got an A+ from an avowed Stalinist (he has in recent years gained some notice) on a paper I wrote about Tito's break with the USSR in 1948.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 28, 2018 01:17 PM (NFEMn)

151 Victory will come from the Insurrection of the #Resistance!



#Science!

Posted by: AHE's electronics teacher at October 28, 2018 01:10 PM (/qEW2)


You must not have gotten the memo. WE are the resistance now.

Posted by: creeper at October 28, 2018 01:17 PM (ALzcx)

152 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2018 01:08 PM (LsBY9)

Thanks for mentioning that. I thought I was the only one who considers C&EN unreadable.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:17 PM (YqDXo)

153 Any more news on the Texas voting machines?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 28, 2018 01:17 PM (0+Lz6)

154 Was it a non-political course? Because then it might have been appropriate.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 28, 2018 12:55 PM (fuK7c)

An English class.

There were plenty of opportunities to inject his politics into the discussion, but he chose the correct path.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 28, 2018 01:17 PM (wYseH)

155 141
Exhorting others to be "non-judgmental" is just a ploy to give the unacceptable breathing space to undermine society.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:12 PM (YqDXo)


Much like to say that one had "discriminating tastes" used to be a compliment. It used to mean that one sought out the best in food, wine, books, music, etc.

But then "discrimination" was redefined as the evilest of all evils. And just like that, our right to freedom of association vanished.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2018 01:18 PM (sdi6R)

156 126---I suspect it corresponds closely to the "everyone should go to college" push in the early 90s.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Google Is Always Listening - Link in nic at October 28, 2018 01:06 PM (LX21o)
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Yeah, that helps to advance and entrench the rot --- but its not the primary cause.
The ideological corruption of universities, most notably under Nazism and Marxism, predates that.

Philosophy welcomes debate because it's object is Wisdom/Truth. Ideology will not brook debate because it's object is Power.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 28, 2018 01:18 PM (Rxduq)

157 Could be 100% wrong, but I think the now completely unleashed idiocy of the racist-authoritarians ("progressives" and "liberals"), seen in the insane slander and lies now pouring forth about the Pittsburgh shooting, will just add to the Red Wave now already well developed. Every unhinged slander that reaches most non-political or apolitical ears, I think, alienates most who hear it from these vile airheads.


Separately, even in 2018, I think the predominant political reaction to disorder, violence, and strife in the US electorate remains a preference for order, seriousness, and strength. Maybe it's not 1968, but in some ways it might still be.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 28, 2018 01:18 PM (QDnY+)

158 The reason has nothing to do with politics though; it's because the paying customers are really the kids.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Deranged and Deplorable #ItsABigDay at October 28, 2018 01:14 PM (Z216Q)


Taxpayers aren't paying to support the university?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:18 PM (YqDXo)

159
Good for you. Pet peeve #17,453: science education majors trying to hold themselves out as scientists. If you notice, they'll make pronouncements on, e.g., global warming, inviting the conclusion that they're scientists. On further investigation, one finds that they are in science education, not science. Grrrr.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 12:36 PM (YqDXo)

A friend of mine was s 5th/6th grade social studies teacher for 15 years. Last year, the school admin decided she needed to be the science teacher. So she is teaching 5th and 6th grade science. She took ONE gen-ed science course in college. Astronomy, I think. but she is teaching science, because of course.

No freaking wonder kids don't know diddly squat today.

Posted by: moki at October 28, 2018 01:19 PM (mFoNl)

160 For the rest of the semester she always stumbled over the concept every
time she wanted to say "white people" and I laughed internally. Little
victories are sometimes the most amusing.
=====

Just remembered LOL moment(s) with my kidlets. They decided they were 'pink' people rather than 'white'. Apparently the other kids bought it. Think Pink was a biggie back in the 70s (Penthouse?) so I laughed. Dirty Scandi/Filthy Irish that we are, kinda makes a weird sense.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 28, 2018 01:20 PM (MIKMs)

161 Posted by: rhomboid at October 28, 2018 01:18 PM (QDnY+)

If we have a Red Wave - er ... a non-Red Wave - the domestic terrorism will enter a fulminant phase. We'll see the Weathermen 2.0 and such.

Book it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:21 PM (YqDXo)

162 But then "discrimination" was redefined as the evilest of all evils. And just like that, our right to freedom of association vanished.


That's puerile. Words have multiple meanings in context and discriminating taste has nothing to do with keeping Negroes from eating at your lunch counter.

What precious freedom of association are you being deprived of?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 28, 2018 01:21 PM (fuK7c)

163

No freaking wonder kids don't know diddly squat today.

They know A LOT...

of what just isn't so.


(As Ronald Reagan might say.)

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at October 28, 2018 01:21 PM (+BZ5R)

164 137
In a digital economy of this dimension, shouldn't Gab be able to find someone who likes money that is also green?
Posted by: rhomboid at October 28, 2018 01:11 PM (QDnY+)




But it's not about money, rhomboid. It's about power and control.

Posted by: creeper at October 28, 2018 01:21 PM (ALzcx)

165
They didn't make it because The Patriarchy, doncha know.

Yeah, I just love being told how powerful I am when I have to take whatever crap the other 7500 people in my company want to pour onto my head.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2018 01:21 PM (LsBY9)

166 Strangely, enough I learned the very same lesson again from an asshole commie history professor 1 years later. And this was at the Univ of Texas!!!!!

I believe a significant number of students are learning the very same lesson that I did.

At least I hope so.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 28, 2018 01:04 PM (CRRq9)


The left was able to conduct the "long march" through deception. Now our side has to be canny enough to do the same with another "long march".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 28, 2018 01:21 PM (/qEW2)

167 Ah, ha ha ha ha ha!

Posted by: Marooned at October 28, 2018 01:22 PM (8hRlF)

168
Actually, now I just read C&EN for the obituaries.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2018 01:23 PM (LsBY9)

169 In a digital economy of this dimension, shouldn't Gab be able to find someone who likes money that is also green? I don't understand how having hosting could be so difficult to arrange (I said "don't understand", meaning if someone does, put me some understanding).
Posted by: rhomboid at October 28, 2018 01:11 PM (QDnY+)


They need a hosting platform that provides some minimum level of service, for a price that they can afford, that will allow them to host there. I don't know how many platforms will support their service since I have no idea what kind of traffic gab gets or how efficient their code is. So, that's one factor: they need to find a host that will provide a reasonably responsive level of service to gab's ultimate user base.

Second, if other clients terminate their contracts with the hosting service, or choose not to consider them at all, specifically because gab.ai is also hosted there, that is a factor. If gab.ai is subject to DDoS attack, for example, it can affect clients that have nothing to do with them. And then THEIR clients start asking awkward questions about why THEY'RE hosted on a service that is subject to attacks because someone else is allowing Right Wing Hate Speech.

So it's not always as simple as it seems.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 28, 2018 01:23 PM (mS+Df)

170 The issue of the Texas voting machines is simple. A voter presses the "party-line" vote button. The incredibly slow 8080 microprocessor takes a really long going through the ballot to mark all of the votes. But the voter thinks he/she is done and presses the "I'm done" button. But alas, the ballot has not been completed.

Posted by: JAS at October 28, 2018 01:23 PM (3HNOQ)

171 Fun thought: the education majors ramming leftist crap down the throats of K-12 kids might be in for a nasty shock as adolescent rebellion kicks in.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:23 PM (YqDXo)

172 Well of course Students are afraid to disagree, at least they're still rational in that. Outside of the STEM disciplines, the only reason anyone goes to College anymore (well besides the obvious 4 years of government funded daycare, of course) is to get a paper pedigree that will get them a nice cushy job doing nothing all day. Well, a nasty note or two from a professor they disagreed with could flush that pedigree right down the toilet and make the entire effort worthless to them.

So hell ya, be scared to disagree with those clowns. On a side note, I actually now respect anyone who can find a way to cheat themselves into a good transcript. The professors and the administration are out there cheating the students and cheating the rest of us every day, I gotta admire someone who has enough smarts and audacity to turn the tables on them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2018 01:23 PM (V2Yro)

173 148 Orson: that is hilarious! Beautiful subversive play.
Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2018 01:16 PM (knNho)

____________

TY...of course I, also, initiated discussions on how all the first "black" politicians were republicans and why. She, of course, used that "conventional wisdom" nonsense about how the parties switched platforms. Unfortunately, for her, Robert Byrd was still very much alive and in office. So, I'm pretty sure I made my point sufficiently. The funny thing was, I was on the Basketball team, and there were a lot of friends of mine in that class who knew me from everyday interaction. They didn't know squat about her. So, while she thought she was making her points...she was really alienating herself.

Like I said, the class was fun.

Posted by: Orson at October 28, 2018 01:24 PM (Jb1Lo)

174 Actually, now I just read C&EN for the obituaries.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2018 01:23 PM (LsBY9)


LOL! Me too! I almost mentioned that.

So far, mine hasn't shown up. Phew.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:24 PM (YqDXo)

175 171 Fun thought: the education majors ramming leftist crap down the throats of K-12 kids might be in for a nasty shock as adolescent rebellion kicks in.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:23 PM (YqDXo)


Yep, I've thinking that for a while.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2018 01:25 PM (sdi6R)

176 Actually I'd guess the red wave now desperately needed for the country's future* will result in mostly degrading histrionics by the media and the Dems, and little else. A few broken windows in Portland, that sort of thing, won't constitute a wave of anything much.


* Incredibly, this will be the *easy* part - inducing a dominant GOP to do much that's needed likely remains the bigger challenge

Posted by: rhomboid at October 28, 2018 01:25 PM (QDnY+)

177

You know, it might not be such a bad thing for the ASYLUM to be run by the Leftist inmates for a couple of years.

Trump (and Mitch's Senate) vs the Leftist House of Reps could be very, very, very good for 2020.


Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at October 28, 2018 01:25 PM (+BZ5R)

178 going so far as to tell my son to check his privilege.

I'd like to see a video of someone responding to this by checking their pistol.
"I'm good"

Posted by: DaveA at October 28, 2018 01:26 PM (FhXTo)

179 Test

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 28, 2018 01:26 PM (0+Lz6)

180 This is the biggest argument in favor of Net Neutrality. I mis-typed in
my earlier post, I'm in favor of providers being forced to treat all
internet traffic equally for this very reason. The censorship of the
major social media sites is what has created the concentration of fringe
groups on the free-speech upstart alternatives. These crazies need to
have their views visible to all for to ridicule, not shut down and
forced underground (thus giving it another kind of appeal).
=====

You know darned good and well that 'neutrality' of content is impossible without Obercensors.

No, just no.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 28, 2018 01:27 PM (MIKMs)

181 Actually, now I just read C&EN for the obituaries.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2018 01:23 PM (LsBY9)

My daughter gets that. I read some of the articles, but most are Leftist agit-prop that seem to have more to do with social issues than actual science. Or saying social issues matter more than actual science.

She's too young to need to read the obits.

Posted by: moki at October 28, 2018 01:28 PM (mFoNl)

182 Stupid question:

If Gab allows idiots to post advance notice that they are planning violent activities ... isn't this a good thing?

Why would you want to shut down a valuable resource like that? Isn't it better for them to keep shooting off their mouths in public so that they can be monitored?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 28, 2018 01:28 PM (/qEW2)

183
I'm trying to figure out WHY it's so important for the Democrats to run the House when they ALREADY do.

Most of Ryan's SHIT bills pass the House with a majority of Democrats and cuck Republicans -- Just.Like.Boehner used to do.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at October 28, 2018 01:28 PM (+BZ5R)

184 176 Actually I'd guess the red wave now desperately needed for the country's future* will result in mostly degrading histrionics by the media and the Dems, and little else. A few broken windows in Portland, that sort of thing, won't constitute a wave of anything much.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 28, 2018 01:25 PM (QDnY+)


I hope you're right, but I suspect that we'll see a resurgence of 70s style domestic terrorism when the Reds decide once again that they can only get their way through "direct action." Bill Ayers is probably warming up in the bullpen.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:28 PM (YqDXo)

185 @161 If we have a Red Wave - er ... a non-Red Wave - the domestic terrorism will enter a fulminant phase. We'll see the Weathermen 2.0 and such.

Book it.

-----------------------

I've been saying something similar ever since Trump was elected. The domestic terrorism bombing campaigns of the late 60s and 70s (and even early 80s) are going to make a comeback. And the idiots doing the bombings this time around aren't going to be smart enough to avoid civilian casualties like most of the original bombers were.

Posted by: junior at October 28, 2018 01:29 PM (OqR9l)

186 The left was able to conduct the "long march" through deception. Now our side has to be canny enough to do the same with another "long march"."

We aren't going to "retake" them, that's a fools errand. They have to be defunded, destroyed, and replaced by something that fulfills their original mission much more reliably.

I've been thinking of King Henry VIII's Dissolution of the Monasteries - before that, the Monasteries and their allies had advanced their wealth and land holdings so much that they controlled, by some accounts, 1/3 of all the farm land in the entire Kingdom. King Henry did away with all of that overnight, and he didn't just keep it all for himself, he made himself quite popular by sharing the loot with all of his supporters across the nation.

I see something like that in our future - the Dissolution of the Universities, and the confiscation of all of their lands, and all of their billion dollar trust funds.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2018 01:29 PM (V2Yro)

187 Paul Ryan: Unfortunately the Right Now Practices Alinskys Tribal Identity Politics




What he's saying is he was happier when the GOP just pretended to fight the Dems while planning to go along with them from the start. Paul Ryno just wants them to go back to being the political Washington Generals

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 28, 2018 01:29 PM (SiINZ)

188 Well if a digital economy of this size (and it's global, right, I mean aren't these words you're reading hosted outside the US?) cannot provide an environment in which a company like Gab can get hosting, then the Gleichschaltung would appear to be inexorable.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 28, 2018 01:30 PM (QDnY+)

189

Boehner would get bills to pass with 160 Democrats and 60 cuck Republicans. He did this on the daily.

Ryan's M.O. was the exact same thing.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at October 28, 2018 01:30 PM (+BZ5R)

190 I see something like that in our future - the Dissolution of the Universities, and the confiscation of all of their lands, and all of their billion dollar trust funds.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2018 01:29 PM (V2Yro)


Online education, with in-person exams at the end for certification purposes. Learn the same stuff, without the crap, and do so for a song.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:30 PM (YqDXo)

191 I see something like that in our future - the Dissolution of the Universities, and the confiscation of all of their lands, and all of their billion dollar trust funds.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2018 01:29 PM (V2Yro)


And turn the sites into Taco Bells. Or Hooters. Whatever.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:31 PM (YqDXo)

192

Exactly.

The only way to keep Republican Shits like Paul Ryan happy is to pass Democrat-bills. That's bipartisanship to that asshole.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at October 28, 2018 01:32 PM (+BZ5R)

193 Fun thought: the education majors ramming leftist crap down the throats of K-12 kids might be in for a nasty shock as adolescent rebellion kicks in.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

*********


"Hold it right there young man! Where do you think you're going in a button down collared shirt and slacks? We didn't raise you that way! Go change your clothes right this instant. And where's the nice nose ring your grandmother sent you for your birthday? You'd better start wearing that, mister!"

Posted by: Muldoon at October 28, 2018 01:32 PM (mvenn)

194 Book it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:21 PM (YqDXo)

------

Book it either way, my man. This is a breaking point. If they lose, it's desperation time: seize the initiative, by any means necessary. If they win, it's by a rearguard action: seize the initiative, by any means necessary.

They'll turn it up to twelve, whatever happens.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 28, 2018 01:32 PM (5aX2M)

195 179
Test

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 28, 2018 01:26 PM (0+Lz6)

F

Posted by: SJW Professor at October 28, 2018 01:32 PM (ALzcx)

196 " A professor has total control over the grades of his students, and subjecting them to political indoctrination that must be accepted on pain of grade penalty is just like a boss demanding sex in exchange for job security. Well, maybe not identical, but it is an abuse of power and should be dealt with in the same way."


If I hit the lottery, that's exactly the kind of lawsuit that I would fund.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at October 28, 2018 01:32 PM (QAdJD)

197 You know, it might not be such a bad thing for the ASYLUM to be run by the Leftist inmates for a couple of years.
Trump (and Mitch's Senate) vs the Leftist House of Reps could be very, very, very good for 2020.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at October 28, 2018 01:25 PM (+BZ5R)
//It's an interesting thought experiment, but in its present iteration the donks have to be ground into dust at the polls and cast to the winds. Who knows what manner of chicanery will be loosed on the country if those miscreants are ever allowed a majority again.

Posted by: Old Dude at October 28, 2018 01:32 PM (LGXGf)

198 162
That's puerile. Words have multiple meanings in context and discriminating taste has nothing to do with keeping Negroes from eating at your lunch counter.

What precious freedom of association are you being deprived of?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 28, 2018 01:21 PM (fuK7c)


There is an enormous difference between Jim Crow laws and individual freedom of choice. The civil rights laws of the 1960s made no distinction between them and stomped all over individual liberty.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2018 01:32 PM (sdi6R)

199 Most of Ryan's SHIT bills pass the House with a majority of Democrats and cuck Republicans -- Just.Like.Boehner used to do.
=====

Ryan was crowing on his dunghill about how he had the 'most productive congress' for passing over 1,000 bills. Dear heavens, does he even know what he is saying?

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 28, 2018 01:33 PM (MIKMs)

200 You know darned good and well that 'neutrality' of content is impossible without Obercensors.

No, just no.
Posted by: mustbequantum at October 28, 2018 01:27 PM (MIKMs)


Agree. This is the classic problem of "regulatory capture" and the insane dream of leftists that problems can be fixed with government coercion.

Net neutrality would merely replace corrupt private companies like twitter, fb, etc. with a corrupt federal regulatory agency. The former can perhaps be bypassed by another company such as gab. The latter cannot be bypassed or evaded and is thus infinitely worse.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 28, 2018 01:33 PM (/qEW2)

201

Paul Ryan's "agenda" is the pure fantasy of a semi-conservative future, but ONLY if Democrats want it, too.

Paul Ryan is a fraud. Not a fool, a fraud.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at October 28, 2018 01:34 PM (+BZ5R)

202 @193 "Hold it right there young man! Where do you think you're going in a button down collared shirt and slacks? We didn't raise you that way! Go change your clothes right this instant. And where's the nice nose ring your grandmother sent you for your birthday? You'd better start wearing that, mister!"

---------------------------


I remember an amusing political cartoon I saw back in the '80s. It had a couple of hippy parents staring at their beaming son... in a USMC uniform. And one of the parents saying to the other, "Where did we go wrong?"

Posted by: junior at October 28, 2018 01:34 PM (OqR9l)

203 "One of my favorite teachers in high school was a raving Lexus liberal civics teacher who gave fair grades for well-supported papers that argued against her personal politics and savaged lazy papers that echoed her beliefs. Nothing but respect for that.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 28, 2018 12:40 PM (mS+Df)"



A real teacher instead of a camp guard.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at October 28, 2018 01:34 PM (QAdJD)

204 I think we need to get Orson a job in Trump's admin.

Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2018 01:35 PM (knNho)

205 Book it either way, my man. This is a breaking point.

That's been obvious for a while. One of the reasons that universities are now the way they are is that the rise of Trump has caused the Left to utterly clamp down on dissent in all the institutions they control.

They used to allow a token amount of dissent, to show how broad-minded they were, but now that half the American population has been exposed as literal Nazis, dissent is no longer acceptable.

Posted by: The ARC of History at October 28, 2018 01:35 PM (I2/tG)

206 I made an account on Gab, but I never could get into it, mainly because I always figured this was going to happen to them sooner or later. Absolute "free speech" cannot survive any more in today's world, not on any commercial basis.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2018 01:35 PM (V2Yro)

207 C&EN enrages me every week. The "Women in Science" crap in particular is pushed by the girls who write for C&EN, who are obviously failed scientists, and are bitter about it. They didn't make it because The Patriarchy, doncha know.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:16 PM (YqDXo)

==========================

The ABA has a "Women in Law" issue once per year.

I save it for emergency MILF porn in case the internet goes down.

Posted by: Oschisms at October 28, 2018 01:36 PM (76Nxz)

208 Nah, not worried about violence. That's a 5% risk, and it will only fail and result in more of what the racist authoritarians oppose. The 95% risk is feeble irresponsible inaction by the dominant GOP, rendering Trump the speed-bump he probably is.


Besides, don't miss the dark entertainment now already unfolding. Anticipating defeat, the R-As are *already* talking about ........ "electoral reform" ..... and *expanding the SCOTUS*. I'm not making this up.


These people aren't very bright. Thus they can't appreciate the self-parody they present when their impending defeat leads to ridiculous discussion of changing the rules of the game.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 28, 2018 01:36 PM (QDnY+)

209 and it's global, right, I mean aren't these words you're reading hosted outside the US?
Posted by: rhomboid at October 28, 2018 01:30 PM (QDnY+)


Maybe. Maybe not. Reload the page and it might be different. acecomments.mu.nu is hosted by SoftLayer, which runs on (and was acquired by) IBM Cloud, and is hosted here:

http://www.softlayer.com/info/data-center-map

The copy I'm reading right now came from Dallas.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 28, 2018 01:37 PM (mS+Df)

210 C&EN enrages me every week. The "Women in Science" crap in particular is pushed by the girls who write for C&EN, who are obviously failed scientists, and are bitter about it. They didn't make it because The Patriarchy, doncha know.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:16 PM (YqDXo)

---

It's much more casual, but I get Make magazine and chuckle to myself every time I open an issue. They really, REALLY push the "yay girl makers!" angle with some cool looking chick holding something with flashing lights on the cover, and then you open the magazine up and all the articles about coding or soldering are written by men, and all the stuff about painting pretty pictures on trash you hot glued together is by women. Because STEM is now STEAM, and A = Art.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Google Is Always Listening - Link in nic at October 28, 2018 01:37 PM (LX21o)

211 @203 One of my favorite teachers in high school was a raving Lexus liberal civics teacher who gave fair grades for well-supported papers that argued against her personal politics and savaged lazy papers that echoed her beliefs. Nothing but respect for that.

---------------------

I had a similar teacher in high school. He taught the 9th Grade social studies classes (and they were actual social studies classes, as opposed to how that label usual meant the history classes).

Years after I had graduated, he was forced out because his belief that white students should be allowed to join the Black Student Union was "racist".

(note that he himself was white)

Posted by: junior at October 28, 2018 01:37 PM (OqR9l)

212
What's very possible is the D's take the House with a super-slim majority that could be overturned BEFORE 2020 with Special Elections.

(Lots of Special Elections occur, all the time, because of retirements, indictments, scandals, death, etc.)



Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at October 28, 2018 01:37 PM (+BZ5R)

213 You know darned good and well that 'neutrality' of content is impossible without Obercensors.

No, just no.


Posted by: mustbequantum at October 28, 2018 01:27 PM (MIKMs)

I would argue the opposite. No need for censors at all if every packet from every source must be treated the same by providers. It's a difficult subject to debate though since there is no single accepted definition of Net Neutrality in the first place.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 28, 2018 01:38 PM (rnXGe)

214 One solution I've seen is using a code number instead of a name on exams. The professor grades the work and then submits the results to the department office who can post the grades. Of course this doesn't work for classes where classroom participation is a factor.

Posted by: Liberty at October 28, 2018 01:38 PM (4E4Fr)

215 Please show us on the Lavrentiy Beria doll where the Marxist scumbag licked you.

Posted by: The Pinochet Board of Regents at October 28, 2018 01:38 PM (Tyii7)

216
The WORST thing we could do is allow the elevation of a FRAUD minority leader when the D's take the House.

The Minority Leader MUST be an authentic Conservative WITH Balls.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at October 28, 2018 01:39 PM (+BZ5R)

217 They'll turn it up to twelve, whatever happens.

My bet is that the D's will do well enough to forestall massive violence - they'll take the House, they'll take the Florida governorship, they'll do well enough to be appeased.

But then, I thought Hillary would win, so what do I know?

If that doesn't happen, watch out. Otherwise, we'll have to wait for Trump's reelection for the real violence.

Posted by: The ARC of History at October 28, 2018 01:39 PM (I2/tG)

218 Ryan was crowing on his dunghill about how he had
the 'most productive congress' for passing over 1,000 bills. Dear
heavens, does he even know what he is saying?


Posted by: mustbequantum at October 28, 2018 01:33 PM (MIKMs)


A ton of bullshit is still just that...a ton of bullshit.

Posted by: creeper at October 28, 2018 01:40 PM (ALzcx)

219 That's been obvious for a while. One of the reasons that universities are now the way they are is that the rise of Trump has caused the Left to utterly clamp down on dissent in all the institutions they control.

Posted by: The ARC of History at October 28, 2018 01:35 PM (I2/tG)

I think you might have the cart in front of the horse.

I would say that one of the reasons that Trump Derangement Syndrome spread so virulently is that the University system was corrupted long ago under Bush and Obama. An entire generation of twenty-to-thirty somethings simply never got a chance to learn how to think critically. Worse yet, they believe the knee jerk Pavlovian conditioning they received actually is "critical thinking".

So the response to "Trump is a racist!" is not longer, "Why? How?", but, "Yeeeah! Kill those f*ckers!".

The clamp-down on conservative thought on most college campuses is much older than Trump, I would say.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 28, 2018 01:40 PM (BRvh1)

220 Online education, with in-person exams at the end for certification purposes. Learn the same stuff, without the crap, and do so for a song.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:30 PM (YqDXo)

With over 800 testing centers in the country, you never have to step foot on a campus. Professors have to record their lectures & no idiot would record the leftist drivel.

Posted by: Batterup at October 28, 2018 01:40 PM (U2JQS)

221 Remember to pray Psalm 118 in support of PDT and his admin. We live in precarious times...because the enemy sees its light being extinguished.

Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2018 01:40 PM (knNho)

222 Good afternoon all. Fox makes it completely obvious of their leaning left now with their Ebony character. She is obvious and awful. FBN is doing a seemingly endless info commercial - it's like I woke up and I'm in Britain.

Posted by: BebeDahl at October 28, 2018 01:41 PM (WWS2B)

223 Freshman year of college in 1996, had to take an English Composition course, and I elected to take a version of it called "writing about social issues." Purpose of the course was supposed to be learning grammar, structure, etc. Learned very quickly that arguing against the prevailing leftist dogma (in this case, that "affirmative action" was wrong because it was a form of racism") got me B despite no feedback on the "composition" of the paper. Fast forward a couple years, taking another English class "African American Literature". Got a 3.9 without reading any of the source material. Every paper I wrote was just parroting back the professor's opinions from class.

Posted by: Anotheranon at October 28, 2018 01:41 PM (tKpEr)

224 Taxpayers aren't paying to support the university?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:18 PM (YqDXo)


At a guess, would you say taxpayers are probably paying some part of every school budget, directly or through tuition financing, research grants or some other mechanism? Nevertheless, "private" universities set their own policies and I'm just thankful they let us townies sit in on some classes.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Deranged and Deplorable #ItsABigDay at October 28, 2018 01:42 PM (Z216Q)

225

btw, all the red Cong. districts that turn blue after the midterms -- those are the people who should lose their tax cuts.

Fuck 'em. Erections have consequences...

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at October 28, 2018 01:42 PM (+BZ5R)

226 I was in Room 222.

Posted by: BebeDahl at October 28, 2018 01:43 PM (WWS2B)

227 I would argue the opposite. No need for censors at
all if every packet from every source must be treated the same by
providers. It's a difficult subject to debate though since there is no
single accepted definition of Net Neutrality in the first place.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 28, 2018 01:38 PM (rnXGe)


That's because net neutrality is actually about the hardware and networks to be required by providers, and not the content. You think it has something to do with common carrier rules.

What all the morally preening fools and failed candidates for HOA chairmanship are calling for is a censoring system similar to every other progressive program to impose speech codes.

Wilson nods in approval.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 28, 2018 01:43 PM (mUa7G)

228
Remember to pray Psalm 118 in support of PDT and his admin. We live in precarious times...because the enemy sees its light being extinguished.

Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2018 01:40 PM (knNho)


Today at church (FSSP) we celebrated the Feast Day of Christ the King. Father V said we should see to it that we go and vote. He cited the Kavanaugh hearings as one sign of the derangement of public life nowadays. He's Canadian, but I don't have a lot of doubt where his sympathies lie.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2018 01:44 PM (LsBY9)

229 It's not only grades, these professors have the power to falsely accuse you of anything like being mentally unstable and report you to the academic board where you have to defend yourself with lawyers, doctors, and experts.

I had Cloward-Piven worshipping Commie do this to me over 10 years ago. It was hell, expensive, and could have ruined my life. He gave me an F that semester when I suceesfully defended myself.

Always record the classes and meetings with professors especially if you live in a one party consent state. Tell your kids and grandkids to do this.

Posted by: Just Tarrible at October 28, 2018 01:44 PM (21Sa0)

230 There's no way Dems will succeed in an attempt to expand SCOTUS. If FDR couldn't do it with the support he had these clowns don't stand a chance.

Posted by: creeper at October 28, 2018 01:44 PM (ALzcx)

231 Me either... I'm in NorCal and I value my life

Posted by: It's me donna at October 28, 2018 12:38 PM (O2RFr)

Tell me about it! SF Bay area - pompous, pontificating pricks all over the place.

Posted by: Grannymimi at October 28, 2018 01:44 PM (u5LFV)

232 With over 800 testing centers in the country, you never have to step foot on a campus. Professors have to record their lectures & no idiot would record the leftist drivel.
Posted by: Batterup at October 28, 2018 01:40 PM (U2JQS)


Yep. And only the first-rate lecturers would be recorded; why bother with the hacks?

Furthermore, the testing centers would obviate the problem now, that those administering tests are those who taught the material, grade the test, and whose advancement prospects depend on the students' performance on the tests. It's an invitation to fraud, which has been revealed in a number of cases.

At a testing center, the proctors have no skin the game. They don't care how students do; it's nothing to them.

Yet another advantage. Just have every exam room proctored by TWO proctors, chosen at random, who don't know each other, so there's almost no opportunity for shenanigans.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:45 PM (YqDXo)

233 A British man just tried to steal a Magna Carta from the Salisbury Cathedral.

In fairness, they weren't really using it anymore.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 28, 2018 01:45 PM (Ndje9)

234 I was in Room 222.


Karen Valentine!

*sighs*

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 28, 2018 01:46 PM (fuK7c)

235 I don't think any Dems with info and expertise are counting their House pick-up chickens at the moment. And it's nearly certain on the Senate they're rightly in an outright panic.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 28, 2018 01:46 PM (QDnY+)

236 Art doesn't belong with STEM. It's opposite hemispheres of the brain. The reason they're shoehorning Art into STEM is to corrupt and commie-fy STEM world.

Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2018 01:46 PM (knNho)

237 230 There's no way Dems will succeed in an attempt to expand SCOTUS. If FDR couldn't do it with the support he had these clowns don't stand a chance.
Posted by: creeper at October 28, 2018 01:44 PM (ALzcx)


Recall that we elected someone named "Hussein," whose best buddies were admitted domestic terrorists, and who was clearly the spokesmodel for the CPUSA.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:46 PM (YqDXo)

238 236 Art doesn't belong with STEM. It's opposite hemispheres of the brain. The reason they're shoehorning Art into STEM is to corrupt and commie-fy STEM world.
Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2018 01:46 PM (knNho)

It's a gigantic ploy by the evil Valve corporation....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 28, 2018 01:47 PM (BRvh1)

239

Karen Allen was great in Raiders of the Lost Ark, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at October 28, 2018 01:48 PM (+BZ5R)

240 Creeper of course you're right - I was just pointing out that the R-As are already resorting to self-beclowning hysterics and silliness, in fear of a red wave. Silliness that demonstrates not just stupidity but zero commitment to or understanding of representative govt., rule of law, and even politics.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 28, 2018 01:48 PM (QDnY+)

241 This doesn't have any thing to do with anything, but I just feel like saying it:

Joe Biden is a paste eating kiddie groping window licker.

Ahhh....

That feels better.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 28, 2018 01:49 PM (BRvh1)

242 Liberal professors are living examples for why America will eventually go cyborg.

Posted by: BebeDahl at October 28, 2018 01:49 PM (WWS2B)

243 228. I don't know what FSSP means.

Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2018 01:49 PM (knNho)

244

"Karen" was a big name in 50's and 60's.

I think it fell out of favor (for baby girls) starting in the 70's.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at October 28, 2018 01:49 PM (+BZ5R)

245 233
A British man just tried to steal a Magna Carta from the Salisbury Cathedral.
In fairness, they weren't really using it anymore.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 28, 2018 01:45 PM (Ndje9)//So, they'll get him to plea Petty Theft?

Posted by: Old Dude at October 28, 2018 01:49 PM (LGXGf)

246 What all the morally preening fools and failed candidates for HOA
chairmanship are calling for is a censoring system similar to every
other progressive program to impose speech codes.
=====

cf Affordable Care Act. For heavens sake, the doublespeak is outrageous.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 28, 2018 01:49 PM (MIKMs)

247 Trump going to WV on Friday.

Posted by: HA at October 28, 2018 01:50 PM (MAstk)

248 OT-- For the second time in three months my son was in a car accident. This time on his way home from church. In the summer it was his fault. This time, some girl or young woman in her early twenties ran into the back bumper while he was waiting for a car to turn. Once again, our insurance will go up. He' o.k. She's o.k. The fender is a bit messed up, Sigh.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 28, 2018 01:50 PM (AllCR)

249 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:45 PM (YqDXo)

this is essentially what they have done with Common Core.

All curriculum is the same... all books the same... standard tests.

The problem is WHO is writing that common curriculum?

Posted by: Don Q. at October 28, 2018 01:51 PM (NgKpN)

250 I was just pointing out that the R-As are already resorting to self-beclowning hysterics and silliness, in fear of a red wave.

The source of their terror is 2016 - they were certain they were going to win then, too. They therefore no longer feel confident in Nate Silver's predictions.

Posted by: The ARC of History at October 28, 2018 01:51 PM (I2/tG)

251 In 1982 or 3 i took Psych 101 at the local community college in Glendale, Az. it seemed every day the professor was telling us to ignore what the book said and remember what he said. Needless to say, I did not do well in that class and never went back to that subject.

Posted by: Bill R. at October 28, 2018 01:51 PM (IuYIh)

252 >>>He'll be done with welding school by Christmas.

hiphiphurray!

Posted by: concrete girl at October 28, 2018 01:52 PM (MxKEW)

253 236 Art doesn't belong with STEM. It's opposite hemispheres of the brain. The reason they're shoehorning Art into STEM is to corrupt and commie-fy STEM world.
Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2018 01:46 PM (knNho)


We need to shoehorn STEM into art.

"Nice painting. Now test this power series for convergence and if you get it right, we'll display your painting."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:52 PM (YqDXo)

254 238. haha that leaves a mark because Evil Valve Corporation offshored my yob!

Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2018 01:52 PM (knNho)

255 I've come quite bigoted against the Left in my dotage. Anyone who still thinks that there is anything at all workable in Socialism is just not smart enough to have any opinions of interest to me.

Posted by: Grump928(C) is... Max Bot, Private Dick. Coming this Fall to ABC at October 28, 2018 01:53 PM (yQpMk)

256
228. I don't know what FSSP means.

Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2018 01:49 PM (knNho)


Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter, a Catholic order dedicated to celebrating the traditional Sacraments and Liturgy. In short, an awesome Tridentine Mass instead of the Novus Ordo mess.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2018 01:53 PM (LsBY9)

257 254 238. haha that leaves a mark because Evil Valve Corporation offshored my yob!
Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2018 01:52 PM (knNho)

Oh no! Sorry! I was just making a lame pun...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 28, 2018 01:53 PM (BRvh1)

258 haha that leaves a mark because Evil Valve Corporation offshored my yob!


If it was a Schroeder Valve you can't be sure if it went there or not.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 28, 2018 01:53 PM (fuK7c)

259 Fat Swimmer Ted & Creepy Joe Biden is how America got the sleeze of CPL Avenatti.

Posted by: BebeDahl at October 28, 2018 01:53 PM (WWS2B)

260 Art doesn't belong with STEM. It's opposite hemispheres of the brain.
The reason they're shoehorning Art into STEM is to corrupt and commie-fy
STEM world.
=====

Small disagreement: music performance uses both hemispheres. Music also is learning another language -- reading.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 28, 2018 01:54 PM (MIKMs)

261 Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter, a Catholic order dedicated to
celebrating the traditional Sacraments and Liturgy. In short, an awesome
Tridentine Mass instead of the Novus Ordo mess.


We were told there would be no Latin math.

Posted by: The Pinochet Board of Regents at October 28, 2018 01:54 PM (Tyii7)

262 Bomard's Body Language got banned by YouTube. Apparently over the Kavenaugh hearing.

She's on Minds.com now, and is using the "gold" option for some of her stuff, you have to subscribe and pay to see it.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 28, 2018 01:54 PM (mUa7G)

263 Well, in fairness, the Dems Acted like they Cared whether it was Affordable.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 28, 2018 01:55 PM (mvenn)

264 214 One solution I've seen is using a code number instead of a name on exams. The professor grades the work and then submits the results to the department office who can post the grades. Of course this doesn't work for classes where classroom participation is a factor."

Law schools already do this. It takes away the personality factor, but still, in an all-essay test that is your entire grade for the year, if you say what the professor wants to hear well you'll get an A, if you say what they want to hear badly you'll get a B, if you are an idiot that doesn't know what you're talking about you'll get a C, to keep that sweet tuition money flowing - and if you make a brilliant well reasoned argument contradicting your Professor, even with a code number on it, you will be given a D, becasue Fuck You, that's how Academia works these days.

So if you're smart, really smart, you learn the other sides playbook, absorb the lesson that you only get ahead in this life by lying constantly, and tell them what they want to hear as convincingly as you can.

And THAT is what makes up a Legal Education in America today. Well, you're supposed to be good at pitching arguments that personally, you think are full of crap. That's what you're taught to do.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2018 01:55 PM (V2Yro)

265 This time, some girl or young woman in her early twenties ran into the back bumper while he was waiting for a car to turn. Once again, our insurance will go up.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 28, 2018 01:50 PM (AllCR)


I'm glad to hear he's OK. Is that a Jersey thing, the insurance going up? They don't do that here if you aren't the one at fault.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 28, 2018 01:55 PM (mS+Df)

266 255 I've come quite bigoted against the Left in my dotage. Anyone who still thinks that there is anything at all workable in Socialism is just not smart enough to have any opinions of interest to me.
Posted by: Grump928(C) is... Max Bot, Private Dick. Coming this Fall to ABC at October 28, 2018 01:53 PM (yQpMk)

I'm getting there, man. I used to engage everyone and anyone in political talk, but these days, the majority of people just don't even live on the same planet as me anymore. There's nothing of interest to say, just "orange man bad".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 28, 2018 01:55 PM (BRvh1)

267 Interestingly, at UAB, a music major is one ways to get into their Medical School.

You do still have to have some bio/chem requirements and test well.

Apparently they have found that Fine Arts Music Majors tend to be smart.

Posted by: Grump928(C) is... Max Bot, Private Dick. Coming this Fall to ABC at October 28, 2018 01:56 PM (yQpMk)

268 Back from Walmart. I thought Sunday before 2 pm would be a good time to go. No such luck. All 70,000 people who live in this county plus half of the surrounding counties were there. And once again no frozen orange juice concentrate.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 28, 2018 01:56 PM (mpXpK)

269

Yeah, that's another thing that pisses me off.

Some Republican Cucks in Congress are already acting/talking as if they're in the minority!

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at October 28, 2018 01:56 PM (+BZ5R)

270 Recall that we elected someone named "Hussein,"
whose best buddies were admitted domestic terrorists, and who was
clearly the spokesmodel for the CPUSA.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 01:46 PM (YqDXo)

And then we elected Donald Trump.
That knife cuts both ways.

Posted by: creeper at October 28, 2018 01:57 PM (ALzcx)

271
Back from Walmart. I thought Sunday before 2 pm would be a good time to go. No such luck.


Because "Sunday" is just another day to most of obama's America.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at October 28, 2018 01:57 PM (+BZ5R)

272 Way back in the 80's, I had to take a PoliSci class. The first class the professor told us he is a Socialist and would be teaching the class from that perspective. Oh great I thought. I going to fail for sure. He and I got into many sometimes heated debates over the semester. At the end I actually got an A in the course. My assignment and exam grades were mostly at the low end of a B. He told me that I received the only A because I was the only one who challenged him in the class. Everyone else just accepted what he said. I was pretty surprised to say the least.

Posted by: Tennessse Jed at October 28, 2018 01:57 PM (KbCvz)

273
Small disagreement: music performance uses both hemispheres. Music also is learning another language -- reading.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 28, 2018 01:54 PM (MIKMs)


In a way, a pity.

STEM: if you can't do calculus, you can't do science properly.

Music: if you can't do your scales, you can't play your instrument properly (you can always become a conductor, though).

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2018 01:57 PM (LsBY9)

274 Why does one need to spend $100,000 on Collage...(sic) (sick)

when you can get dressage for Horses d'ouvres.

SHIT FOR BRAINS Apply here.......

Posted by: saf at October 28, 2018 01:58 PM (5IHGB)

275 130
I have been a member of the American Chemical Society for 40 years now. Its flagship publication Chemical & Engineering News is now almost unreadable.

Decades ago, it featured actual science and chemical business news. About 10 years ago, its editor got on the Globular Warming bandwagon. Now it's nothing but Diversity, LGBT, Women in Science, sexual harassment, and other "socially informed" hogwash.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2018 01:08 PM (LsBY9)

They went SJW about the same time that Scientific American did. Dropped 'em both in the mid 90's.

Not using the BSChE anymore, anyhow.


Posted by: West at October 28, 2018 01:58 PM (Dhcvl)

276 @269 Yeah, that's battered spouse syndrome.

Posted by: Old Dude at October 28, 2018 01:58 PM (LGXGf)

277 Small disagreement: music performance uses both hemispheres. Music also is learning another language -- reading."

Well now there son, you don't really need that, you know...

Posted by: Ray Charles at October 28, 2018 01:58 PM (V2Yro)

278 That's because net neutrality is actually about the
hardware and networks to be required by providers, and not the content.
You think it has something to do with common carrier rules.

What
all the morally preening fools and failed candidates for HOA
chairmanship are calling for is a censoring system similar to every
other progressive program to impose speech codes.

Wilson nods in approval.


Posted by: Kindltot at October 28, 2018 01:43 PM (mUa7G)

Like I said, the confusion is in the different interpretations of what "Net Neutrality" even means. I would argue that it most certainly applies to content. ISP's are already blocking your access to certain content and throttling you traffic to their "approved" (i.e. profitable) alternatives. Video streaming, for example. The day is coming soon where a Netflix can pay a fee to ISP's to prevent you from even viewing their competitors. They'll call it a "partnership. ATT uVerse already does this in favor of their cable streaming service. Youtube and Twitter will be able to prevent you from even seeing Bitchute or Gab just because they can afford to (which will lock them in as monopolies). My idea of Net Neutrality would prevent that. I would even go a step further and treat the internet as a utility, the way we had to do with telephone service otherwise Ma Bell would've prevented their customers from being able to dial the numbers of people using competing services.
This isn't some theoretical future, we're already there. Sometime in August Hollywood pressured many ISP's into blocking the piratebay.org domain altogether. Try to go there, I bet you're blocked. The site still exists, you just have to get there now by using one of the proxies found at https://proxybay.bz. Soon it'll be blocked at the ISP level as well. This is just the start.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 28, 2018 01:59 PM (rnXGe)

279 My question here is why do parents continue sending their children to these leftest shit-holes. There are very few jobs that require a four year degree. Most job training can be obtained from a two year trade school or OJT. And a lot cheaper.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 28, 2018 01:59 PM (mpXpK)

280 Today at church (FSSP) we celebrated the Feast Day of Christ the King. Father V said we should see to it that we go and vote. He cited the Kavanaugh hearings as one sign of the derangement of public life nowadays. He's Canadian, but I don't have a lot of doubt where his sympathies lie.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2018 01:44 PM (LsBY9)



There are #woke and the awakening.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 28, 2018 01:59 PM (7YukL)

281

Years ago I mentioned on this blog how Car Washes and Supermarkets were packed on Sundays (at church time).

25 years ago, the streets were empty on Sundays.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at October 28, 2018 01:59 PM (+BZ5R)

282 I'm going to backdoor your foreign policy, but first, you will blow my stance on domestic, female healthcare issues with regard to pregnancy and promiscuity!

Posted by: Dr. Fritz, PhD at October 28, 2018 02:00 PM (Z9C5C)

283 STEM: if you can't do calculus, you can't do science properly.

Music: if you can't do your scales, you can't play your instrument properly (you can always become a conductor, though).

Or become a Bagpipe player.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2018 02:00 PM (V2Yro)

284 248
He' o.k. She's o.k. The fender is a bit messed up, Sigh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 28, 2018 01:50 PM (AllCR)


Well, that's good. They're both all right; that's the important thing.

The last two accidents my car was involved in both occurred when it was parked and I wasn't in it. Yes, I park in a different spot now.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2018 02:00 PM (sdi6R)

285 Posted by: hogmartin at October 28, 2018 01:55 PM (mS+Df)


I think the rates always go up in Jersey.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 28, 2018 02:01 PM (AllCR)

286 Freshman year of college in 1996, had to take an English Composition course, and I elected to take a version of it called "writing about social issues." Purpose of the course was supposed to be learning grammar, structure, etc. Learned very quickly that arguing against the prevailing leftist dogma (in this case, that "affirmative action" was wrong because it was a form of racism") got me B despite no feedback on the "composition" of the paper. Fast forward a couple years, taking another English class "African American Literature". Got a 3.9 without reading any of the source material. Every paper I wrote was just parroting back the professor's opinions from class.
Posted by: Anotheranon at October 28, 2018 01:41 PM (tKpEr)


The titles of those courses seem to be the "tell" - were there no others?

For my literature course I took "Kafka, Hesse, Brecht and Mann". Even though Brecht was in there, it wasn't too bad politics-wise. I forget my grade but I did pretty well and it introduced me to some interesting literature.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 28, 2018 02:01 PM (/qEW2)

287 I would argue the opposite. No need for censors at all if every packet from every source must be treated the same by providers. It's a difficult subject to debate though since there is no single accepted definition of Net Neutrality in the first place.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 28, 2018 01:38 PM (rnXGe)

Every packet shouldn't be treated equally. Some packets are very sensitive to latency (gaming, voip), others are not (torrents, cacheable data). Treating them the same means no noticeable improvement for the latter, but massive potential degradation in the former.

Posted by: Sjg at October 28, 2018 02:02 PM (gDSJf)

288 He cited the Kavanaugh hearings as one sign of the derangement of public life nowadays."

Can't argue with that statement no matter where one's sympathies lie.

The real issue is that the Senate's Confirmation process was irretrievably broken 30 years ago, and now it's finally come to a head and been revealed as the total farce that it is.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2018 02:03 PM (V2Yro)

289 I got rear-ended at a red light a couple of years ago.

Corolla or some other plastic shitbox (his) ran into truck (mine).

I got my my bumper dinged a little, but not enough to spend the $750 insurance money on it. Win!

He got totalled. Bigger Win!

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 28, 2018 02:03 PM (fuK7c)

290 This time, some girl or young woman in her early twenties ran into the back bumper while he was waiting for a car to turn. Once again, our insurance will go up.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 28, 2018 01:50 PM


Two opposing insurance companies have a process by which they ascertain responsibility. Sometimes the ratio is 50/50, perhaps both cars are traveling too fast. In the case you describe the car at rest is usually assumed to be 0% responsible for an accident. Unless he suddenly slammed on the brakes unnecessarily. In which case the percentage might rise a tiny bit. The driver behind your son is assumed to driving at a speed which would allow safe breaking in the distance between cars. Too close a distance? Then they are 100% responsible.

No change on auto rates for 0% responsible.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at October 28, 2018 02:04 PM (URwyc)

291 186---I see something like that in our future - the Dissolution of the Universities, and the confiscation of all of their lands, and all of their billion dollar trust funds.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2018 01:29 PM (V2Yro)
-------------------------------
NO WAY. This is like solving the "problem" of the Robber Barons by having the State seize their goods and distributing it to anyone who will be a good henchman for the dictator.

How about we (1) stop using federal money to support these institutions (2) reverse Grigg v Duke Power and stop requiring a college degree when simple testing will suffice and (3) deregulate enough to let the market for on-line and alternative education expand.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 28, 2018 02:04 PM (Rxduq)

292 this is a good thread but I have to duck out. Hopefully be able to check in on the foodie.

Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2018 02:05 PM (knNho)

293 How does an insurance company justify raising the rates of someone who is involved in an accident that was not his fault?

Some idiot merged right into me on the freeway several months ago. The insurance rep informed me that this would not raise my rates because I was allowed one accident. She also lectured me because I did not stop, given that the driver who hit me backed away and got off at the next exit. Evidently she though that I, a 72-year-old woman, should have confronted the driver of the honking big SUV who hit me.

Sorry. Insurance companies are a pet peeve with me...even USAA.

Posted by: creeper at October 28, 2018 02:06 PM (ALzcx)

294 There's nothing of interest to say, just "orange man bad".
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 28, 2018 01:55 PM (BRvh1)
-----
Indeed. But stringing three whole words together has got the majority of them beat. Most just scream. Some scream at the sky!

Posted by: BebeDahl at October 28, 2018 02:06 PM (WWS2B)

295 *shakes fist at Evil Valve Corp.*

Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2018 02:07 PM (knNho)

296 Fast forward a couple years, taking another English class "African American Literature". Got a 3.9 without reading any of the source material. Every paper I wrote was just parroting back the professor's opinions from class.
Posted by: Anotheranon at October 28, 2018 01:41 PM

We had a professor once, and especially with no names on the essays, only code numbers, we all knew that the sure fire way to an A on any of her tests was to start with the words, "As a woman, I ....." and then just go blah blah blah women's empowerment blah blah blah. Didn't even matter what the actual question was about, you'd get your grade.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2018 02:07 PM (V2Yro)

297 271
Because "Sunday" is just another day to most of obama's America.



Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at October 28, 2018 01:57 PM (+BZ5R)

actually most of the crowd there was morbidly obese white women who looked like they were trucked in from the back side of the county. Do you know hard it is to get down an aisle with two morbidly obese women yacking about today's gossip at Bumfk townlet out in the sticks?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 28, 2018 02:07 PM (mpXpK)

298 We had a professor once, and especially with no
names on the essays, only code numbers, we all knew that the sure fire
way to an A on any of her tests was to start with the words, "As a
woman, I ....." and then just go blah blah blah women's empowerment
blah blah blah. Didn't even matter what the actual question was about,
you'd get your grade.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2018 02:07 PM (V2Yro)

That must have been the course Michell Obama aced.

Posted by: creeper at October 28, 2018 02:09 PM (ALzcx)

299 Every packet shouldn't be treated equally. Some
packets are very sensitive to latency (gaming, voip), others are not
(torrents, cacheable data). Treating them the same means no noticeable
improvement for the latter, but massive potential degradation in the
former.

Posted by: Sjg at October 28, 2018 02:02 PM (gDSJf)

A data packet is a data packet. There is no difference between a video packet or a text packet. Quality of Service (QoS) technology has existed for decades to prioritize at the user's end. It should be no business of the provider to decide which of those packets to "prioritize".

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 28, 2018 02:09 PM (rnXGe)

300 WTF?

test

Posted by: creeper at October 28, 2018 02:09 PM (ALzcx)

301 Martha McSally must really be a terrible candidate.


The GOP incumbent governor is projected to win by a double digit margin, but ticket splitters are keeping Krysten Sinema a toss-up. This, despite her constant insults to Arizona voters and her obvious deceptions on big policy questions.
Incredibly, with all this against her, Sinema is still in the race.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Deranged and Deplorable #ItsABigDay at October 28, 2018 02:10 PM (Z216Q)

302 Okay. Who turned the HTML code off?

Posted by: creeper at October 28, 2018 02:10 PM (ALzcx)

303 278 That's because net neutrality is actually about the
hardware and networks to be required by providers, and not the content.
You think it has something to do with common carrier rules.

What
all the morally preening fools and failed candidates for HOA
chairmanship are calling for is a censoring system similar to every
other progressive program to impose speech codes.

Wilson nods in approval.


Posted by: Kindltot at October 28, 2018 01:43 PM (mUa7G)

Like I said, the confusion is in the different interpretations of what "Net Neutrality" even means. I would argue that it most certainly applies to content. ISP's are already blocking your access to certain content and throttling you traffic to their "approved" (i.e. profitable) alternatives. Video streaming, for example. The day is coming soon where a Netflix can pay a fee to ISP's to prevent you from even viewing their competitors. They'll call it a "partnership. ATT uVerse already does this in favor of their cable streaming service. Youtube and Twitter will be able to prevent you from even seeing Bitchute or Gab just because they can afford to (which will lock them in as monopolies). My idea of Net Neutrality would prevent that. I would even go a step further and treat the internet as a utility, the way we had to do with telephone service otherwise Ma Bell would've prevented their customers from being able to dial the numbers of people using competing services.
This isn't some theoretical future, we're already there. Sometime in August Hollywood pressured many ISP's into blocking the piratebay.org domain altogether. Try to go there, I bet you're blocked. The site still exists, you just have to get there now by using one of the proxies found at https://proxybay.bz. Soon it'll be blocked at the ISP level as well. This is just the start.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 28, 2018 01:59 PM (rnXGe)

Your idea of Net Neutrality is Sweden. The Net Neutrality we will get is Venezuela.

That is why I oppose it.

Posted by: West at October 28, 2018 02:10 PM (Dhcvl)

304 Well tonypete that may change my plans. Probably the tsunami of lawsuits begins when the college requires me to sign the first amendment waiver.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at October 28, 2018 02:10 PM (fYr5Q)

305 Or become a Bagpipe player.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2018 02:00 PM (V2Yro)


Be nice. The pipes are for plaintive songs, fast dances, and in massed band they are supposed to strike fear in the hearts of enemies.
They are judged very strictly.

If you every want an adrenaline moment, go stand in the endzone at the nearest Scottish Games when they are doing the mass tattoo on the field.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 28, 2018 02:11 PM (mUa7G)

306 I went to college in the 90s and disagreed with profs all the time. They often told me they liked being challenged like that.

I took an environmental economics class where the prof said on day one I am a very liberal person, I will give you my opinion often but remember it is AN opinion, not THE opinion.

A different world.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 28, 2018 02:11 PM (af4zY)

307 How about we (1) stop using federal money to support these institutions (2) reverse Grigg v Duke Power and stop requiring a college degree when simple testing will suffice and (3) deregulate enough to let the market for on-line and alternative education expand.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille
-----------

But, but...what about social justice?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 28, 2018 02:12 PM (fZcn6)

308

By "obama's America" I mean all of the USA.

It makes me sick what that leftist saboteur did to the USA.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at October 28, 2018 02:12 PM (+BZ5R)

309 Prager brought up a study that was done beginning of summer that women graduates are the most likely group to go out and physically protest .

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2018 02:12 PM (T4oHT)

310 Hey, Muldoon... if you're going to talk about that cost in medicine stuff... I know it isn't your field, but did you get around to talking about Colchisine?

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at October 28, 2018 02:13 PM (Clxcy)

311 Also, it is totally unprofessional to interject your political or social views in your lecturing, regardless of what you're teaching.

This is an instance where the dean should put his foot in the offender's ass.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 28, 2018 12:28 PM (YqDXo)
---------

Of course, here I am two hours late to the game but as i'm sure you know, that ship you describe above sailed LONG ago.

Posted by: bluebell at October 28, 2018 02:13 PM (U5tDi)

312 Okay. Who turned the HTML code off?
Posted by: creeper at October 28, 2018 02:10 PM (ALzcx)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucdZHR75iCM

Posted by: hogmartin at October 28, 2018 02:13 PM (mS+Df)

313 Brian, the solution to illegal cartelization and monopolistic practices is not to create a legal cartel and enforce it's legal right to monopolize an industry.


I mean, after all, it has only failed every other time it was tried, right?

Posted by: Kindltot at October 28, 2018 02:13 PM (mUa7G)

314 Military delivering jersey barriers to the border.
Details on troop deployment will be forthcoming, probably tonight.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 28, 2018 02:13 PM (7YukL)

315 Your idea of Net Neutrality is Sweden. The Net Neutrality we will get is Venezuela.



That is why I oppose it.





Posted by: West at October 28, 2018 02:10 PM (Dhcvl)

The system we've degenerated to right now is Venezuela. That's why Gab will no longer exist a month from now and our Leftist overlords at Facebook, Youtube and Twitter will only grow stronger because of it.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 28, 2018 02:13 PM (rnXGe)

316
Re: McSally

Yeah, I think she began her shitty campaign just like Kelly Ayotte -- by trying to be a moderate Democrat.

Then, by the primary, she went into panic mode and finally smartened up. Might be too late, tho.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at October 28, 2018 02:14 PM (+BZ5R)

317 307 How about we (1) stop using federal money to support these institutions (2) reverse Grigg v Duke Power and stop requiring a college degree when simple testing will suffice and (3) deregulate enough to let the market for on-line and alternative education expand.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille
-----------

Yep. Harvard has a $37,000,000,000 endowment but the taxpayer is on the hook for student loans? How about no?

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at October 28, 2018 02:14 PM (jp0Bv)

318 I took an environmental economics class where the prof said on day one I am a very liberal person, I will give you my opinion often but remember it is AN opinion, not THE opinion.


I wish I remember which prof or which subject but I had a professor say "I am not a teacher, I am not here to teach. I am a professor, I am here to profess. It is up to you to learn the subject and to evaluate what it is I profess".

At the time it scared me shitless. I'm responsible for my own learning? But I like it and I incorporate a weak version of it in my teaching.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 28, 2018 02:14 PM (fuK7c)

319 Our state allows 'seniors' to audit classes, without paying fees. I contemplate signing up for a 'studies' course, now and then, just to be a PIA for the 'teachers'.

Actually, we all ought to do that. Flashmob sundry courses every quarter.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 28, 2018 02:15 PM (fZcn6)

320 Military delivering jersey barriers to the border.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 28, 2018 02:13 PM (7YukL)


Does that mean their insurance premiums will go up?

Posted by: hogmartin at October 28, 2018 02:15 PM (mS+Df)

321 My view on college today is, unless it's a top tier college, like Ivy seven sisters, etc it's a colossal waste of money to go to a private school. Go to State U, the value of the degree is the same bit costs 1/4 as much.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 28, 2018 02:15 PM (af4zY)

322 Of course, here I am two hours late to the game but as i'm sure you know, that ship you describe above sailed LONG ago.

Posted by: bluebell at October 28, 2018 02:13 PM (U5tDi)



Sox

Posted by: Braenyard at October 28, 2018 02:15 PM (7YukL)

323
Do you know hard it is to get down an aisle with two morbidly obese women yacking about today's gossip at Bumfk townlet out in the sticks?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party


*shakes fist at city snob*
*waddles off*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2018 02:16 PM (LsBY9)

324 A friend of mine is teaching college classes right now. I've watched her fly her liberal freak flag for a while now. She is all on board the Beto train and said some very inflammatory things the other day after the mail bombs were discovered. She, of course, had no idea about the ricin sent to the Pentagon and the suspicious powder sent to GOP figures. She was surprised the people she insulted had anything to say back to her and pretended they were not good Christians and declared she was taking the high road. Just the other day, she was griping because she could hear "an old white man" declaring his Trump support while he was on his phone from her office. I swear she has become a parody. So, I almost fell off of my chair this morning when I read this on her social media. "So we might say that the most important thing one can acquire in college is a well-functioning bullshit meter." - Andrew Delbanco The quote was posted over a picture of the wall of the Liberal Arts building where she teaches. I laughed and laughed and laughed.

Posted by: no good deed at October 28, 2018 02:16 PM (1uG1d)

325 Nood, by the bye.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 28, 2018 02:16 PM (mS+Df)

326 Military delivering jersey barriers to the border.
Details on troop deployment will be forthcoming, probably tonight.
Posted by: Braenyard
-------------

Water cannon, gas equipment.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 28, 2018 02:16 PM (fZcn6)

327 Sox
Posted by: Braenyard at October 28, 2018 02:15 PM (7YukL)
----------

+1000

Posted by: bluebell at October 28, 2018 02:17 PM (U5tDi)

328
Military delivering jersey barriers to the border. Details on troop deployment will be forthcoming, probably tonight.

Posted by: Braenyard


What's a jersey barrier? Their personalities?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 28, 2018 02:17 PM (LsBY9)

329 It should be no business of the provider to decide which of those packets to "prioritize".
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 28, 2018 02:09 PM (rnXGe)

So all the customers watching Netflix should be the same latency considerations from the ISP as the voip call and the video game?

As I said that means no difference to the Netflix viewers, but can make that voice chat incomprehensible and make the video game unplayable.

Guess which customers are calling to complain and then canceling your service when you refuse to do anything for them. Oh but if you have your way they'll be stuck with only shit ISPs to choose from. How very "neutral".

Posted by: Sjg at October 28, 2018 02:17 PM (gDSJf)

330 AZ early voting is looking really good. 40% of all votes have already been cast with a very healthy gop lead.

Nevada too, GOP doing much better in Las Vegas than usual early voting.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 28, 2018 02:17 PM (af4zY)

331
A lot of these fuckface Republicans who are in trouble are going to lose because of their own stupidity.

They thought they'd be cute and move to the Left because they believed the Fake News' fake blue wave bullshit that began in late January 2017.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at October 28, 2018 02:17 PM (+BZ5R)

332 Our state allows 'seniors' to audit classes, without paying fees. I contemplate signing up for a 'studies' course, now and then, just to be a PIA for the 'teachers'.

Actually, we all ought to do that. Flashmob sundry courses every quarter.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 28, 2018 02:15 PM (fZcn6)
---------

Ours does too! I'm not old enough yet, but when I am, I'm not going to waste my time with a "studies" course though. The first one I'm going to take is art history.

Posted by: bluebell at October 28, 2018 02:18 PM (U5tDi)

333 Not so sure Synema is not, in fact, about to get crushed. Only time will tell, but the tea leaves of early vote/absentee returns, by party, in AZ are showing significant Fail by the Dems vs recent cycles. After 2008, nothing is impossible to believe, but ticket-splitting to benefit a weak, and now farcical, candidate like Synema approaches "impossible to believe".

Posted by: rhomboid at October 28, 2018 02:18 PM (QDnY+)

334 Military delivering jersey barriers to the border.

Details on troop deployment will be forthcoming, probably tonight.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 28, 2018 02:13 PM (7YukL)


There are going to be heads rolling over this.

There are a lot of narcotraffickers that are going to be seriously impacted by this

Posted by: Kindltot at October 28, 2018 02:18 PM (mUa7G)

335 Homeland Sec Nielsen pointing out that her Dept got daily death threats from the very get go is something that needs to pointed out daily. All the numerous threats towards Trump's administration should be the auto rebuttal to every single dim every single time they claim "Trump rhetoric" caused The Black Plague.

Posted by: BebeDahl at October 28, 2018 02:19 PM (WWS2B)

336 301
Incredibly, with all this against her, Sinema is still in the race.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Deranged and Deplorable #ItsABigDay at October 28, 2018 02:10 PM (Z216Q)


She is a 1.

That doesn't mean I would vote for her if I lived in Arizona.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2018 02:19 PM (sdi6R)

337 Ours does too! I'm not old enough yet, but when I am, I'm not going to waste my time with a "studies" course though. The first one I'm going to take is art history.

Posted by: bluebell
------------

Well, if there's discussion of 'Nude Fat Guy on an Ottoman', let us know.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 28, 2018 02:19 PM (KoKdw)

338 Incredibly, with all this against her, Sinema is still in the race.


Posted by: Huck Follywood, Deranged and Deplorable #ItsABigDay at October 28, 2018 02:10 PM (Z216Q)



I just spent a week in AZ. My mom, who is semi-engaged politically, had no idea what a nut-bag Sinema is. None at all. She always votes a straight R ticket, though, so at least she's not voting for her. I may have bopped my mom on the head once or twice for not keeping up.

Posted by: grammie winger, cold and grey- at October 28, 2018 02:19 PM (lwiT4)

339
I just spent a week in AZ. My mom, who is semi-engaged politically, had no idea what a nut-bag Sinema is. None at all. She always votes a straight R ticket, though, so at least she's not voting for her. I may have bopped my mom on the head once or twice for not keeping up.
Posted by: grammie winger, cold and grey- at October 28, 2018 02:19 PM (lwiT4)



Ha ha ha ha ha
- MSM

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 28, 2018 02:21 PM (3QwGK)

340 So all the customers watching Netflix should be the
same latency considerations from the ISP as the voip call and the video
game?



As I said that means no difference to the Netflix viewers, but can
make that voice chat incomprehensible and make the video game
unplayable.



Guess which customers are calling to complain and then canceling
your service when you refuse to do anything for them. Oh but if you
have your way they'll be stuck with only shit ISPs to choose from. How
very "neutral".

Posted by: Sjg at October 28, 2018 02:17 PM (gDSJf)

Yes. If your VoIP calls are poor adjust the QoS priority in your router. Most come pre-configured that way as default anyway. A data packet is a data packet.
90% of the population only have one or two shit ISP's to choose from to begin with. If there were valid competition in that space I would not hold the position I do. It's not plausible for 25 companies to dig up the streets to lay competing lines any more than it is for 25 water companies to do the same.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 28, 2018 02:21 PM (rnXGe)

341 At the time it scared me shitless. I'm responsible for my own learning?
But I like it and I incorporate a weak version of it in my teaching.
=================

My brother, the lefty law prof, also teaches part-time in England. There, the teaching method is exactly this (students responsible for their learning), where he lays out the syllabus, lectures and makes himself available for conferences but the students are really responsible for getting the material down. He loves it (but, admittedly, he's lazy) and thinks it would be a great way to teach even upper years in high school.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Deranged and Deplorable #ItsABigDay at October 28, 2018 02:22 PM (Z216Q)

342 One challenge for conservative instructors is:

We know that our students have mostly leftist instructors who lefty-up everything that happens in their classrooms.

We would like students to hear some counter-balancing ideas. That is not going to happen unless we speak up.

But that puts us in the awkward position of introducing political discussion in our own classrooms, if we decide to go there. This is a far greater risk for a conservative than a Marxist. Adequately propagandize students recognize the ideas as "hate speech" and report you.

Posted by: Emmie at October 28, 2018 02:22 PM (4HMW8)

343 He loves it (but, admittedly, he's lazy) and thinks it would be a great way to teach even upper years in high school.


Posted by: Huck Follywood, Deranged and Deplorable #ItsABigDay at October 28, 2018 02:22 PM (Z216Q)



Yeah, had that. Just no.

Posted by: grammie winger, cold and grey- at October 28, 2018 02:23 PM (lwiT4)

344 a few years back, i made the mistake of trying to complete an AA @ a community college here in Lost Angels.

to get the requisite # of credits i needed, i needed one more class, so i took a business law course that i thought might actually have something useful in it.

silly me.

we had to use *his* book, which was nearly $200, and wasn't even complete, which he said was to make it "more affordable" (the class was mostly young minorities)

we also had to participate in an online discussion forum, where, among other things, he wanted our views on how to "improve" the Constitution and the BOR.

big mistake on his part: i jumped in with both feet by posting that i'd re-write the 2nd to make more clear that it protected the right of individuals to keep and bear arms, w/ minimum govt interference.

by the time the smoke cleared (heh), and the semester ended, i'd convinced a majority of the class that the 2nd really did mean what we say it means here, and the "professor" who proclaimed himself to be a "constitutional scholar" during the thread, admitted he'd never even heard of the Federalist Papers, let alone read them. it was glorious, if i do say so myself.

i also made the case that healthcare wasn't a human right, but simply a luxury good that everyone wanted.

it was like shooting fish in a barrel, and i think i got an A in the class both because of my test scores, and because he didn't want me to have to come back and thus red pill another class...

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 28, 2018 02:24 PM (v9rtm)

345 Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 28, 2018 01:59 PM (rnXGe)

Net Neutrality - the federal government taking large control of the traffic of internet content since it will be deemed a public utility - is much more likely to result in exactly the things you are complaining talking about than a free internet would.

Further, letting the government get their heavy hand all over the throat of internet content will insure that further progress in modernizing the internet is brought to a veritable standstill.

There are already way too many "anti-competition" laws on the books to address everything you've been talking about. The idea that you want to add another layer - a governmental layer - on top of all that is one of the worst ideas possible.

It's bad enough that the government has deemed cell phones and internet "necessities" and forced me to pay a shitload of ridiculous taxes and fees on NY SERVICE so that they can provide free service to leeches (most of which ends up in graft and corruption, anyway). I don't want any more of that shit added on top.

What they need to do is enforce the law that US currency must be accepted as a form of payment for any debt - to stop these asshole companies that want to get rid of all non-internet methods of payment which force people to use their shitty sites for normal transactions. ANd the government is one of the worst offenders in this area - not relating to cash payments but to forcing people to use the internet for things that have been taken care of in person for years and years and years, such as passport applications, for one simple example. That is just straight-up bullshit, the same way they have pretty much all moved to electronic voting when they save no manpower, have no security, and address a problem that doesn't exist (the population numbers don't grow nearly fast enough - or even could - to require getting rid of paper ballots and mechanical machines).

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 28, 2018 02:25 PM (BHXAq)

346 admitted he'd never even heard of the Federalist Papers, let alone read them.


wut?

Posted by: grammie winger, cold and grey- at October 28, 2018 02:25 PM (lwiT4)

347 nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 28, 2018 02:27 PM (mpXpK)

348 A British man just tried to steal a Magna Carta from the Salisbury Cathedral.

In fairness, they weren't really using it anymore.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 28, 2018 01:45 PM (Ndje9)


*snort*. This is why I love this place. Why do they still have such a document? It was written by proto-white-privilegists. That's offensive. Replace it with a copy of the Hadith.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 28, 2018 02:28 PM (/qEW2)

349 In the 1980s, I had a professor that would go on a political rant about Reagan for, oh about 15 minutes of every class. And I mean a spittle flecked raging rant.

We just sat there and took his shit. Hell, most of us didn't care one way or another about Reagan. He'd be screaming at us to DO something. Like what dumb ass? We're 18.

I look back now and feel like a bit of a coward. But what was I supposed to do? I was on scholarship and needed to maintain the grade, and I needed the class to graduate. If we were on an equal footing I'd have had at him. But we weren't.

What a prick.

Posted by: Dean wormer at October 28, 2018 02:32 PM (ABH6n)

350 Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 28, 2018 02:21 PM (rnXGe)

Data packets are not equal. Treating them equally screws over large numbers of customers for no benefit to the rest.

If you think your current ISPs are shit, your idea would only make them shittier.

Posted by: Sjg at October 28, 2018 02:33 PM (gDSJf)

351 The clamp-down on conservative thought on most college campuses is much older than Trump, I would say.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 28, 2018 01:40 PM (BRvh1

It is. But it's not that old. As I mentioned upthread, the bias was pretty marked by just a decade ago. But a conservative could get grades, still. I even got recommended by liberal professors for jobs in State government.

This is unthinkable now.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 28, 2018 02:34 PM (5aX2M)

352 Here in SC, the Walmart is packed at 2pm with folks all dressed up for church.

Posted by: JAS at October 28, 2018 02:51 PM (3HNOQ)

353
The system we've degenerated to right now is Venezuela. That's why Gab will no longer exist a month from now and our Leftist overlords at Facebook, Youtube and Twitter will only grow stronger because of it.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 28, 2018 02:13 PM (rnXGe)

No. The situation we have now is the Wild West, with some players having Colt 45's.

The Venezueala situation will be the government controlling the Internets, with 100% surveillance capability, all innovation squelched by regulation, and access only for the elites.

If you think the current situation is bad, wait till you get what you want.

Posted by: West at October 28, 2018 03:00 PM (Dhcvl)

354 The 47% are Leftists who don't notice politics b/c they're so common the comments don't stand out.

OR maybe they're in one of the few disciplines with better things to do than yammer on about politics... e.g., engineering.

Most disciplines now are nothing BUT politics.

When my daughter who went to public U would talk about a professor who gave both sides of issues, I knew: CONSERVATIVE.

Students became increasingly frustrated over the past decade in my classes when I'd play devil's advocate to their standard Leftist arguments. Eventually Bias Response Team ratted me out for "misogyny" and "Islamophobia" and now I'm retired.

Posted by: josco at October 28, 2018 03:13 PM (l9Soe)

355 No. The situation we have now is the Wild West, with some players having Colt 45's.

Ranchers versus farmhands, all over again. Wondering who the hired guns are going to be fighting the Big Tech...

Posted by: I'm Brother Cavil, and I recommend The Courage To Be Disliked at October 28, 2018 03:28 PM (lLeln)

356
I heard, or perhaps I read it here, that senior citizens returning to college are oligated to sign or follow an in-class behavior policy under which they are forbidden from contradicting the tenured Marxist know-it-all teaching the class using their real world knowledge or experiences. Sounds a little extreme, to be frank, but I can imagine the professorial class itself has a significant and non-zero snowflake population.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 28, 2018 03:36 PM (pNxlR)

357 286 - the first class was a naive mistake. Second class was opportunistic. I was required to take an English class above a certain level to complete my degree, and the first class taught me this would be an easy A.

Posted by: Anotheranon at October 28, 2018 04:29 PM (tKpEr)

358 When a Professor, who has complete power over the grades of his/her students, pushes a certain political viewpoint and encourages agreement as a condition of a good grade...

That = "Political Harassment"- #PiToo

Posted by: JGCToyko at October 29, 2018 04:31 AM (lCyV4)

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My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat