Sunday Morning Book Thread 08-05-2018

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Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes. Oh, and we've got a new category of readers, escaped oafs and oafettes ('escaped oafs' is an anagram of 'Ace of Spades'). Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, and publishing by people who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which not even the strongest spot remover will ever be able to fix.

Pic Note

The only information I have on this is: 'A Navy Medical Library, 1902'.

[Update]: h/t to geoffb for finding out that this is the "Stitt Library at BUMED, 1902. (This is in the former Naval Observatory rotunda which housed a telescope at 23rd St, NW, Washington, DC)"

Worth a Look

Moron JTB sent me an e-mail to which I added the links:

I found an interesting site: Journal of the American Revolution. Haven't gone through all of it but looks interesting. The book thread connection is they have a list of the 100 best books about the Revolution of all time. (Their words.) If you think it's worthwhile, it might make a good reference a future book thread. It's the kind of item that can start some opinions on related books and topics. (And the Horde won't re-fight the Civil War. I hope.)

This is indeed an interesting site. It's divided up into topical subjections People, Politics, Culture, Conflict & War, Critical Thinking, etc. This is one of those sites where, if you're at all interested in the subject, you click a link here, click a link there, and before you're aware of it, it's now 4 hours later, whatever you left on the stove is burnt to a crisp, and your wife is still at the dentist's office wondering when you're going to pick her up.

Mary Robie and the Didactic Qualities of Reading Fiction also looks like an interesting read.

It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

PHYSBUTTOCKE was a 16th century insult aimed at a vain, dandyish young man.

Usage: It would be pretty funny if President Trump did not allow Jim Acosta into the WH press room without a "Mr. Physbuttocke" nametag.

Shelfie

I received an interesting e-mail and the above photo from Corona, whom I think mostly lurks:

Not much of a bookworm myself but really enjoy the libraries posted at AOSHQ, especially the Hordes' pics. I actually have a library myself. It's very tiny and nestled close to my castles' throne. When I'm done with them they're replaced with new adventures.

Looks like Corona's got a good variety of material, light (Gone with the Wind), heavy (The Road to Serfdom), and humorous (How To Be a Perfect Christian).

Maybe we should make this a thing. I'm soliciting "shelfies" of you morons' reading material currently in your, uh, "throne room." Which I daresay a lot of you get most of your serious reading done.

This should be fun.

Of course, "real" library pics are always welcome. Oh, and ugly pants pics, too.

Prog Dreams & Schemes

It's really good to see our side punching back on the torrent of BS that the Democrats and the MSM have been churning out since November in a transparent attempt to reverse the results of Trump's election. I think some progs actually believe, even now, that they can somehow remove Trump, get a do-over on the election, which will then, naturally, install dowager Hillary in her rightful place in the Oval Office.

A number of recent book releases fight (resist?) this narrative:

The Russia Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump by Gregg Jarrett

Fox News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett reveals the real story behind Hillary Clinton’s deep state collaborators in government and exposes their nefarious actions during and after the 2016 election.

The Russia Hoax reveals how persons within the FBI and Barack Obama’s Justice Department worked improperly to help elect Hillary Clinton and defeat Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election.

When this suspected effort failed, those same people appear to have pursued a contrived investigation of President Trump in an attempt to undo the election results and remove him as president.

The evidence suggests that partisans within the FBI and the Department of Justice, driven by personal animus and a misplaced sense of political righteousness, surreptitiously acted to subvert electoral democracy in our country.

Liars, Leakers, and Liberals: The Case Against the Anti-Trump Conspiracy by Jeanine Pirro, cussed at by Whoopi Goldberg on 'The View' a few weeks back as tempers were running hot.

Judge Jeanine writes a firsthand account of the real Trump presidency, based on her interviews with top administration officials, family members and insiders...At this point in American history, we are victims of a subterfuge and sabotage of the presidency that we've never witnessed before.

And how. I've never seen it this bad before, and I'm old enough to remember Nixon.

Spygate: The Attempted Sabotage of Donald J. Trump by Dan Bongino, due out in October, is available for pre-order now:

Former Secret Service agent and NYPD police officer Dan Bongino joins forces with journalist D.C. McAllister to clear away fake news and show you how Trump’s political opponents, both foreign and domestic, tried to sabotage his campaign and delegitimize his presidency.

And, just for fun, there's the 30-page essay Examining The Psychology Of The Trump Hating Loony Left: Is Trump Derangement Syndrome A Symptom Of The Left's Unsettled Daddy Issues? by the appropriately named Professor Fun.

In his new book just released on July 24th, 2018 Professor Fun gives a lecture on Trump Derangement Syndrome and the loony left in America today. There are three main groups today showing acute symptoms of Trump Derangement Syndrome, first we have the liberal and leftists group of people who view Trump as a threat to protected minority groups such as gang members and criminals. The second group are the deep state figures who are trying desperately to remove Trump from office in order to prevent their crimes and corruption from being exposed. The third group is the Fake News Media who are spokespeople for groups #1 and #2. Each of these groups are attempting to create mass hysteria to achieve their goals of removing President Trump from power and nullifying the election results of our duly elected President. These three groups must be stopped and defeated, until that happens let's have some fun laughing at them and calling them out.

As I said, I enjoy seeing conservatives punching back vigorously. It wasn't always the case. I remember the dark times, when all we had was the National Review, Human Events, the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal, and that was about it. The liberals really had a firm grip on the national narrative in those days, which made things a lot more easier for them. For example, I doubt that they could have gotten away with borking Robert Bork as they did even 10 years later. And the shouting down and "no platforming" of conservative speakers on college campuses was a regular occurrence even back then, but you just didn't hear about it - unless you subscribed to the abovementioned conservative publications.

There was also one more outlet, the Conservative Book Club. Any of you morons ever join the Conservative Book Club? After you signed up, you'd get a monthly mailing of conservative-themed books, including their "book of the month" selection. If you didn't want the selection, you'd have to mail them back a "no, thanks" letter, otherwise they'd send it to you and bill you for it. Or you could buy other books, and most of the time, the prices were pretty good. Anyway, I was a member from approx. 1992 to about 1998 when I discovered that despite all of the books I was buying, we weren't winning very many political battles.

I thought the CBC had folded up some years ago, but no, it's still around, apparently.

Moron Recommendations

Take a little Lovecraft, mix in some Sherlock Holmes, and what do you get?

137 For a great take on Cthulhu/Holmes, check out the Shadows over Baker Street anthology, great short stories on the subject. Some of them go to very unexpected places.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 29, 2018 10:10 AM (39g3+)

Shadows Over Baker Street: New Tales of Terror! contains stories by Neil Gaiman, Barbara Hambly, Elizabeth Bear, and 17 other writers. This is the book that dares to ask the question:

Arthur Conan Doyle’s Sherlock Holmes is among the most famous literary figures of all time...But what would happen if Conan Doyle’s peerless detective and his allies were to find themselves faced with mysteries whose solutions lay not only beyond the grasp of logic, but of sanity itself?

And at 464 pages, you'll be getting a lot of bang for your buck.

Books By Morons

'Ette author right wing yankee has just published a YA fantasy novel, In Pursuit of Justice:

Garia and the East Morlans have been on increasingly rocky terms for years, and when Téo and Zara ran away together, they touched off the powder keg of war between their kingdoms. Now they have to fight for their lives while learning to live in a foreign land.

In the Morlans, Hanri and Alia are facing their own sets of problems. He must control and divert the single-minded vengeance of his father King Reynard, and she must sort the gold of information from the dross of gossip in a palace swarming with rumors. It could mean the difference between life and death for all of them.

This is the sequel to the first book of her Garia Cycle, Kingdom of Glass.

In Pursuit of Justice is available on Kindle and is currently priced at $2.99.

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Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads. It's meant to support horde writers and to talk about the great books that come up on the book thread. It's called AoSHQ Moron Horde and the link to it is here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 09:00 AM

Comments

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1 Choo Choo Booklovers!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 08:57 AM (gUCYC)

2 Tried reading the classic Asimov book Foundation. Never had read it before and Amazon had it on sale. I struggled through the first half and was bored to tears. I set it aside. Maybe will go back and finish it but probably won't. Went back to the Paladin of the Shadows series by John Ringo. You may not like his books but they are never boring.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 05, 2018 08:58 AM (mpXpK)

3 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a wonderful week of reading.

Now for the content.

Posted by: JTB at August 05, 2018 09:00 AM (V+03K)

4 Tolle Lege
I pre ordered Robert Spencer's History of Jihad, supposed to show up August 7 so I guess it just shows up on my Kindle app then.
Still reading Patrick O'Brien' s The True love of the Aubrey/ Maturin series.

Posted by: Skip at August 05, 2018 09:00 AM (lxZ71)

5 Damn, just starting my vacation and a top ten.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 05, 2018 09:00 AM (R5lpX)

6 That looks like an initial issue of GWTW.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 05, 2018 09:01 AM (mpXpK)

7 The only information I have on this is: 'A Navy Medical Library, 1902'.
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*peruses titles*

Hmm. 'Rum', 'Sodomy', 'The Lash'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 05, 2018 09:03 AM (CDGwz)

8 I like the idea of "throne room" libraries! That's one room where you will be able to read undisturbed (except by pets and small children).

As I've mentioned before, my childhood home had a "throne" in a small nook with book shelves up to the ceiling. In addition to the Peanuts and Bennett Cerf joke books were tomes on science and history and a complete set of children's encyclopedias. One could get a decent education in 2-3 minute increments!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 09:03 AM (gUCYC)

9 Now that's what I call a lieberry.

When you finish a chapter, please light a match.

Thank you.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 05, 2018 09:03 AM (EoRCO)

10 First ! More or less !

Posted by: JT at August 05, 2018 09:05 AM (Hr+xV)

11 I was at a toss up between Robert Spencer and Gregg Jarrett, went for the long ball

Posted by: Skip at August 05, 2018 09:05 AM (lxZ71)

12 Some poor sucker is going to have to dust the tops of those bookshelvesNOT IT

"It's very tiny and nestled close to my castles' throne. When I'm done with them they're replaced with new adventures."

The selection of books is nice, but that's the kind of place where if you're having an adventure, it's probably going to be a very trying day.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 09:06 AM (y87Qq)

13 Racist bathroom is racist. Fascist!

Posted by: Ashley Wilts at August 05, 2018 09:07 AM (UdKB7)

14 When I remade the bathroom top cabinet I purposely made it with a top hidden space that if a book was on top you couldn't see it.

Posted by: Skip at August 05, 2018 09:08 AM (lxZ71)

15 The young Mary had followed her family north to Halifax in the early weeks of May 1775 after a rebellious mob chased them from their home in Marblehead, Massachusetts.

(People, politics, culture, et cetera and so forth and so on)

Her father Thomas, while by no means an ardent supporter of the crown, had refused to agree to colonial nonimportation, which he understood would ruin his lucrative import business.

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Posted by: Bradlee M. Chadwick at August 05, 2018 09:09 AM (XeN7w)

16 Choo-Choo Eris !

Posted by: JT at August 05, 2018 09:09 AM (Hr+xV)

17 The Amalgamated Puppet Library! How have I never heard of this before?

Well now I want to go on a crime spree disguised as a penguin in Party Mode.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 09:10 AM (gUCYC)

18 Yikes!

When you are done with those books, you should burn them.

This is why I don't buy used books.

Posted by: garrett at August 05, 2018 09:10 AM (aCN2J)

19 'Morning, Bookish 'rons and 'ettes, and our esteemed host, OM.

Those pants kind of look like the ones Rodney wore in the 'shack.

This week I read Through the Eyes of a Lion, by Levi Lusko, a young pastor who lost his 5-year-old daughter in the blink of an eye. Lusko's focus is not solely in dealing with any adversity life brings but recognizing how short our time on earth is and living up to our full potentials. I'll add my recommendation to the multiple pages of endorsements preceding the book.

This was a three-book week. I interrupted Deeper Than the Dead, by Tami Hoag, about serial-killer profiling before there was profiling or data bases, to start reading The Hearts of Horses, by Molly Gloss.

The latter sure sounds like it could be based on real life. The tone and style puts me in mind of Lonesome Dove. A 19-year-old woman from a loveless family sets out to earn her keep in 1917 by breaking horses while America is sending off its young men to war.

The protagonist could be the original horse whisperer. I'm halfway through but can already recommend this one because of all the info on homesteading in the American West, the pitfalls and (already recognized govt interference) perils of homesteading (primarily being scrub land loans that banks took a beating on) and the derision that govt publications on farming were met with.

Happy reading!

BBL

Posted by: SandyCheeks at August 05, 2018 09:10 AM (ihzOe)

20 That Gone With the Wind dust jacket needs to be Brodarted.

Posted by: rickl at August 05, 2018 09:10 AM (sdi6R)

21 Racist bathroom is racist. Fascist!
Posted by: Ashley Wilts at August 05, 2018 09:07 AM (UdKB7)

I hope you noted that the shelf was painted "white", and not just white, but "racist white-supremacist white"!

Posted by: Chairman Hrothgar at August 05, 2018 09:11 AM (n9EOP)

22 The only information I have on this is: 'A Navy Medical Library, 1902'.

That's from the days when libraries were in B&W.

Posted by: JT at August 05, 2018 09:11 AM (Hr+xV)

23 I've never seen it this bad before, and I'm old enough to remember Nixon.

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Didja see that Bernstein said this is worse than Watergate? Not the Resistance. The Trump administration. I guess because Nixon didn't have access to Twitter.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, 3-D Printed Version at August 05, 2018 09:11 AM (+y/Ru)

24 A book thread broke out in one of the Friday evening threads and His Despicable Furriness says he's actually reading the Hound of the Baskervilles.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 09:11 AM (fuK7c)

25 It's a shame there isn't enough focus in that picture to make out the dedication plaque at the top of the stairs. That would pin down the location, certainly.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 05, 2018 09:11 AM (V2Yro)

26 When you are done with those books, you should burn them.

You don't want poop fumes stuck to your books ?

Posted by: JT at August 05, 2018 09:12 AM (Hr+xV)

27 Finished Cooper's "The Pioneers". Kind of disappointing. Most of the pioneers survived and Chicago (pronounced 'Chicanganooga') died.

Posted by: Ashley Wilts at August 05, 2018 09:13 AM (UdKB7)

28 "...One could get a decent education in 2-3 minute increments!"
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Or would those be "excrements"?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 09:13 AM (gUCYC)

29
And here i thought "physbuttocke" had something to

do with Alka-Selzer and butt sex.

Well...live and learn.

Good morning morons and ettes!

Posted by: naturalfake at August 05, 2018 09:13 AM (9q7Dl)

30 Shellie's? On this blog? Oh, dear.

I fear this will not end well.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 05, 2018 09:13 AM (DMUuz)

31 >>You don't want poop fumes stuck to your books ?

No.

If you can't flush it, it doesn't belong in there.

Posted by: garrett at August 05, 2018 09:13 AM (aCN2J)

32 Ah dang off Antebellum cucksock

Posted by: Ashley Wilts at August 05, 2018 09:13 AM (UdKB7)

33 24 A book thread broke out in one of the Friday evening threads and His Despicable Furriness says he's actually reading the Hound of the Baskervilles.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 09:11 AM (fuK7c)
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How very Ace to insist upon a book club selection and then not read it.

Maybe we should discuss a piece of pulpy trash instead of something edifying. That'll get the kids reading!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 09:15 AM (gUCYC)

34 Shelfies. Auto-cucumber is becoming rather a bother.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 05, 2018 09:15 AM (DMUuz)

35 I buy used books, but I fumigate them for a week before they are moved into the house!

Posted by: Chairman Hrothgar at August 05, 2018 09:15 AM (n9EOP)

36 I just got a 1958 paperback copy of Heinlein’s “Have Space Suit – Will Travel”. Near pristine! When I bury my face in it I can smell 1958. Oh, and the cover is illustrated by Steele Savage. Isn’t that a great name? Almost as metal as Steele Johnson.

So I open it up and the story opens with this:

“Dad,” I said, “I want to go to the Moon.”
“Certainly,” he answered, and looked back at his book. It was Jerome K. Jerome’s Three Men in a Boat, which he must know by heart.

How often has that book been pimped in this venerable thread recently?

The book thread is folding in on itself.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 09:16 AM (gUCYC)

37 Thanks for the book thread OM! (even though I hear you maliciously strip the dates from movie titles, I'm still grateful for all the work you do)

I still have 4 open browser tabs with previous book threads, I almost always find at least a few things to investigate, bookmark or add to a wait list. Way behind normal schedule, I blame vacation, work, Kindle Unlimited and drivers who weave in & out of traffic smashing into other cars.

For KU I've been joining twice a year & canceling at the end of each monthly period. I much prefer physical books but hard to beat value of digital (IF you actually read them) So spend $20 a year & have two scattered months where I read & listen to way more books than normal.

The main downside is that searching for $0KU "audible" books is very difficult. I've never been able to find a search engine that shows only what's available for free KU listening (& availability changes on a daily basis).

Two titles with unexpected exceeded expectations:
1. Diary of America by Jay Ross I think I found this in graphic novels category, it has black & white stick figures with running commentary on history of the country. Jay could be a moron.
2. The Man Called Brown Condor: The Forgotten History of an African American Fighter Pilot (KU.Audible.Listen).about John C. Robinson, born and raised in Mississippi, he was important in founding of the Tuskegee air program, but had joined the Ethiopian air force prior to the 1935 Italian invasion.
Title could be misinterpreted, but it was a very good book. (I love it when I find a book about a "brand new thing" about something I think I know very well)

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at August 05, 2018 09:16 AM (CuFV9)

38 Typing around here autocucumber definitely is a hazard

Posted by: Skip at August 05, 2018 09:16 AM (lxZ71)

39 12 Some poor sucker is going to have to dust the tops of those bookshelvesNOT IT

That honor went to miscreants drawing 8 hours additional duty at Captain's Mast.

Posted by: Fox2! at August 05, 2018 09:17 AM (brIR5)

40 Huh dang ol sock stuck fast. Quick Melanie fetch my hot iron.

Posted by: Ashley Wilts at August 05, 2018 09:18 AM (UdKB7)

41 I like my Kindle and have to watch myself not to buy to many .99 or 1.99 books I'll never read. Also have a nook, the same thing. But I do read real books. Never enough time in the day to read. TV? hardly ever watch anymore.

Posted by: Colin at August 05, 2018 09:19 AM (3duGx)

42 I see the photo of the guy in the pants made from a Twister mat doesn't show the face. Probably couldn't edit out the shades of red in the guys face.

Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at August 05, 2018 09:20 AM (WEBkv)

43 The book thread is folding in on itself.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 09:16 AM (gUCYC)

If we're riding out a causality event, I call the bathroom. It's good for tornadoes too, plus that's where the books are!

*scurries away*

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 09:20 AM (y87Qq)

44 I try to avoid interesting books while using the facilities. Hit an engrossing passage, and next thing you know 30 minutes have passed, you're stuck to the seat, and your legs have fallen asleep.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at August 05, 2018 09:21 AM (lApJ5)

45 2. The Man Called Brown Condor: The Forgotten History of an African American Fighter Pilot (KU.Audible.Listen).about John C. Robinson, born and raised in Mississippi, he was important in founding of the Tuskegee air program, but had joined the Ethiopian air force prior to the 1935 Italian invasion.
Title could be misinterpreted, but it was a very good book. (I love it when I find a book about a "brand new thing" about something I think I know very well)
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at August 05, 2018 09:16 AM (CuFV9)
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Interesting. I just read a blurb somewhere about Frank Mann, an aeronautical and aerospace engineer for Howard Hughes, who was a civilian instructor for the Tuskegee Airmen.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 09:21 AM (gUCYC)

46 Gone With The Wind just may be the best title ever for a bathroom book.

Just sayin'

Posted by: Muldoon at August 05, 2018 09:21 AM (mvenn)

47 Hi - lurker who wishes to join the AOSHQ book group on Goodreads.

Posted by: Laurel Van Driest at August 05, 2018 09:21 AM (8F3gC)

48 Probably couldn't edit out the shades of red in the guys face.

Those pants are tasteful to the point of understated.

Posted by: John Daly at August 05, 2018 09:21 AM (fuK7c)

49 The only information I have on this is: 'A Navy Medical Library, 1902'.

That's from the days when libraries were in B&W.
Posted by: JT at August 05, 2018 09:11 AM (Hr+xV)

In fairness, the whole world was B&W back then. We didn't start getting color in the world until the 1940s.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2018 09:21 AM (yQpMk)

50 These 3-D printed guns are a lot bigger threat than I thought!

https://bit.ly/2vFBR7N

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, 3-D Printed Version at August 05, 2018 09:21 AM (+y/Ru)

51 This week I read the recently released What Really Happened by veteran newspaperman and talk radio host Howie Carr. It is a relatively short (215 pages) and grippingly readable account of the 2016 election campaign. It is well researched and Howie was often in the middle of the action, interviewing Trump and the other candidates and players. It is balanced, keeping in mind that Howie is no fan of Leftists, who he frequently call "moonbats". He is willing to say so when he thinks Trump made a mistake (*cough* Sessionzzz *cough*) and give credit to his opponents when he thinks they had a fair point.

It covers all of the candidates and events of the campaign, not just Trump, and illuminates some issues that still mystified me (Scott Walker's stillborn campaign, for example). Even those he call the "participation trophy" candidates (Gilmore, Pataki, Huckabee, Graham, Santorum, Jindal, Perry) get a mention. There is also a chapter on Hillary vs. Bernie. Howie is particularly good at covering the machinations and dirty tricks of the campaign.

This is the literary equivalent of watching one of the best "Trump Can't Win" compilation videos (My favorite is still https://youtu.be/zT0Rjc6jKCg ) and is every bit as delightful. Highly recommended - 5 out of 5 schadenboners.

Posted by: cool breeze at August 05, 2018 09:22 AM (UGKMd)

52 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 05, 2018 08:58 AM (mpXpK)

It gets better. I expect you will like it once you get past the slow part. Asimov spends a lot of time setting up...

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 05, 2018 09:22 AM (EZebt)

53 Last week began the reduction of the books that has to be done before Guam flips over or something. Talk about painful!! It does force me to realize that:

1. I have approximately umpty-ump years worth of unread physical books on the shelves. And that doesn't include all the e-books on Kindle.

2. I have multiple copies of quite a few books.

3. Much as I enjoyed them the first time, I am not going to re-read as many of them as I used to think.

4. Being rational about the matter doesn't make it easier, just possible.

Posted by: JTB at August 05, 2018 09:22 AM (V+03K)

54 Gone With The Wind just may be the best title ever for a bathroom book.

Just sayin'
Posted by: Muldoon at August 05, 2018 09:21 AM (mvenn)

Father Brown stories.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2018 09:22 AM (yQpMk)

55 I feel a year older... all of a sudden.....

Posted by: goatexchange at August 05, 2018 09:23 AM (YFnq5)

56 Recommended here a few weeks ago, I read the interesting and informative The Disappearing Spoon and Other True Tales of Madness, Love, and the History of the World from The Periodic Table of the Elements by Sam Kean. This is not only a history of the Periodic Table and how the elements were discovered, but Kean tells often amusing stories of an element playing a part in a wide range of subjects such as music, medicine, politics, finances, war, etc. An entertaining read which imparted much new knowledge to this reader.

Posted by: Zoltan at August 05, 2018 09:24 AM (HLy+M)

57 I try to avoid interesting books while using the facilities.

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I read Dean Koontz. Scares the shit out of me.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, 3-D Printed Version at August 05, 2018 09:24 AM (+y/Ru)

58 Since my vacation starts today, I think I will revisit and try to finish a book I bought in a box lot at an auction several years ago. It's called, The Reign of Law: A Tale of the Kentucky Hemp Fields by ALLEN, James Lane.

Written in 1900, I'll have to check, but I believe I have a first edition. You can still find them on Amazon for around 25 bucks, I believe.

Industrial Hemp is coming back in vogue in Kentucky, if what my google-fu tells me is true.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 05, 2018 09:24 AM (R5lpX)

59 That honor went to miscreants drawing 8 hours additional duty at Captain's Mast.
Posted by: Fox2! at August 05, 2018 09:17 AM (brIR5)

I did a little looking around to see if I could find any *.navy.mil sites that had any hints about that library and now three browsers aren't speaking to me.

Breaking SSL certificates that badly should be recognized by browsers as unforgeable proof that you're at a .mil site. If your computer catches on fire, it's DFAS.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 09:24 AM (y87Qq)

60 54 Gone With The Wind just may be the best title ever for a bathroom book.

Just sayin'
Posted by: Muldoon at August 05, 2018 09:21 AM (mvenn)

Father Brown stories.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2018 09:22 AM (yQpMk)

The Sound and the Fury

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 09:25 AM (gUCYC)

61 Posted by: garrett at August 05, 2018 09:10 AM (aCN2J)

Those books "have been flagged."

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 05, 2018 09:25 AM (EZebt)

62 JTB just destroyed any free time I had this week.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at August 05, 2018 09:25 AM (CuFV9)

63 The Sound and the Fury

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 09:25 AM (gUCYC)

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Signifying nothing?

Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at August 05, 2018 09:26 AM (WEBkv)

64 Hi - lurker who wishes to join the AOSHQ book group on Goodreads.
Posted by: Laurel Van Driest at August 05, 2018 09:21 AM (8F3gC)

Hello, friend. Thanks for de-lurking.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 09:26 AM (y87Qq)

65 >>Those books "have been flagged."

Rebecca, D - More - Nay!

Posted by: garrett at August 05, 2018 09:27 AM (aCN2J)

66 Sooooo, if a Moron has self-published somewhere online, might a Moron pimp his work here?

Posted by: Sausage McMuffin at August 05, 2018 09:29 AM (tSFch)

67 Much A-Doo About Nothing.

Posted by: goatexchange at August 05, 2018 09:29 AM (YFnq5)

68 I would never attempt to read F A Hayek on the crapper, he requires longer periods of study than what I require in that room.

I admit, however, to having a copy of Milton Friedman's Capitalism and Freedom in my bathroom as my current "Brush and Floss" book (blessed be the guy who invented the Plackers flossers); though it is stalled as I am also reading through Ringo's The Last Centurion.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 05, 2018 09:29 AM (2K6fY)

69 BTW, I took a couple of boxes to the used book store to get credit and got very little, even for excellent condition hardcovers of Clive Cussler and similar. Mrs. JTB and I are trying to decide what to do in the future. We have a number of nursing homes and assisted living facilities in the area as well as a senior center and I think we'll take the books to those places. None of the books are racy or controversial and they might be welcome.

Posted by: JTB at August 05, 2018 09:29 AM (V+03K)

70
For this smart military blog, the article about the defense of NYC on allthingsliberty.com gives an interesting insight into how things were at that time.

That's a good find, OM, thanks.

Posted by: Bradlee M. Chadwick at August 05, 2018 09:32 AM (XeN7w)

71 Posted by: garrett at August 05, 2018 09:27 AM (aCN2J)

"The poor don't want your muffin bottoms!"

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 05, 2018 09:32 AM (EZebt)

72 Based on recommendations here, I'm reading Patrick McManus' Bo Tully mystery series. Although they are legitimate mysteries, the fun is in the humor. I'm currently reading the sixth, Circles In the Snow, the final in the series and the last thing published before McManus' death.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, 3-D Printed Version at August 05, 2018 09:32 AM (+y/Ru)

73 Someone put up one of those tiny lending library kiosks in their yard on the next block. Unfortunately it's all romance books.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2018 09:33 AM (yQpMk)

74 Posted by: JTB at August 05, 2018 09:29 AM (V+03K)

Also local jail. Seriously.

Posted by: weirdflunky at August 05, 2018 09:33 AM (SUoEu)

75 When I remade the bathroom top cabinet I purposely made it with a top hidden space that if a book was on top you couldn't see it.

Posted by: Skip at August 05, 2018 09:08 AM

You misspelled 'Playboy Magazine'.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 05, 2018 09:33 AM (LOgQ4)

76 For example, I doubt that they could have gotten away with borking Robert Bork as they did even 10 years later.

Took less than 10. We shouldn't forget that the G H W Bush administration's finest hour came when they fought back during the Thomas hearings. We're still benefiting from that one.

Also, for younger readers, it's worth noting that NR was vastly more combative and principled back in the day. And when I started reading (1967, IIRC) it was much less uniform. There was a lot of intellectual diversity then. Healthier all around.

I am also not convinced that what we are seeing from the left is new. It was just as bad under Nixon. The only difference I see is that they are more rigid and more desperate. Especially the news shows, which kind of know that they're losing ground, but are too scared to take a realistic look at their problems. (Too stupid, as well.)

Posted by: George LeS at August 05, 2018 09:33 AM (59GGI)

77 I feel a year older... all of a sudden.....
Posted by: goatexchange at August 05, 2018 09:23 AM (YFnq5)

Is it your birthday or something? Then happy birthday, commenter goatexchange.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 09:33 AM (y87Qq)

78 Not my birthday, but thanks, Hog. I was making a subtle reference to our in-house time machine......

Posted by: goatexchange at August 05, 2018 09:37 AM (YFnq5)

79 Since you asked, I went into my throne room, and saw:

National Policy and Naval Strength (essays by Adm H W Richmond)

First version of Bill James's Historical Abstract

Oxford Hist of the British Army

Bible (rotten NEB translation, alas. the good ones are downstairs.)

Two Judge Dee mysteries (Maze and Canton). They need replacement.

On another matter, if only the paper were softer, Dreams of My Father and What Happened would be the ideal toilet texts, would they not?

Posted by: George LeS at August 05, 2018 09:37 AM (59GGI)

80 This is mostly a reading thread, but I'm looking over at my bookshelves and noting that my most sacred books are full of pictures.

Incomplete left to right, but the gist: Painted Bodies (what it sounds like), Some Women (Mapplethorpe), three Andrew Wyeth books, Women Before 10 A.M., the Art of Pirelli Calendars, the Art of Edward S. Curtis, Ansel Adams, Karsh Portraits, Dawn of Art -- The Chauvet Caves, Jia Lu, Books of Nudes (a meta book about books with nudes).

I like reading books on paper and the fish section is larger than the art section, but I really cherish having high quality reproductions of images.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 09:37 AM (fuK7c)

81 Someone put up one of those tiny lending library kiosks in their yard on the next block. Unfortunately it's all romance books.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2018 09:33 AM (yQpMk)

Well yes, now, but it doesn't have to stay that way.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 09:38 AM (y87Qq)

82 Still traipsing through Space Odyssey: Stanley Kubrick, Arthur C. Clarke, and the Making of a Masterpiece by Michael Benson. It's written in a very chatty, informal style so it lends itself to bouncily plucking anecdotes here and there.

Producer Roger Caras met with Stan at one of his favorite hangouts, Trader Vic's in the Savoy Hotel.

Given the restaurant's tacky Polynesian motifs -- its ersatz grass island house entrance, looming tiki totem poles, and giant clam lighting fixtures -- it wasn't the classiest environment, but "at heart, Stanley was a peasant," Caras observed. "He was without pretense. He just happened to be a genius."

Trying to imagine Kubrick sipping booze out of a ceramic shrunken head with fruit and a paper parasol sticking out of it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 09:38 AM (gUCYC)

83 A sad story.

https://bit.ly/2vFwLs4

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, 3-D Printed Version at August 05, 2018 09:39 AM (+y/Ru)

84 7 The only information I have on this is: 'A Navy Medical Library, 1902'.
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*peruses titles*

Hmm. 'Rum', 'Sodomy', 'The Lash'

Are those medical conditions, or cures?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 05, 2018 09:41 AM (N1ZXu)

85 Hahahaha!

So sad!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 09:41 AM (gUCYC)

86 Well yes, now, but it doesn't have to stay that way.

I have thought about what books to slip into the box but giving someone a new idea is like giving them a pistol. You never know what they will do with it.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2018 09:42 AM (yQpMk)

87 Still traipsing through Space Odyssey: Stanley Kubrick, Arthur C. Clarke, and the Making of a Masterpiece by Michael Benson.

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A little pricey but this would be a good companion.

https://amzn.to/2KtOBUg

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, 3-D Printed Version at August 05, 2018 09:43 AM (+y/Ru)

88 'Rum', 'Sodomy', 'The Lash'

Great Pogues album.

Today's trivia: whence the phrase?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 09:43 AM (fuK7c)

89 A sad story.
https://bit.ly/2vFwLs4
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, 3-D Printed Version at August 05, 2018 09:39 AM (+y/Ru)

Poor guy......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 05, 2018 09:43 AM (EoRCO)

90 Also, for younger readers, it's worth noting that NR was vastly more combative and principled back in the day. And when I started reading (1967, IIRC) it was much less uniform. There was a lot of intellectual diversity then. Healthier all around.

Buckley ran it his way because it was his creation. When he left it to the crotch ferrets, including his dickweed son, they were a grab bag of incoherent cravings to be accepted by the DC denizens.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 05, 2018 09:44 AM (y7DUB)

91 By the way, in my To Be Read pile is the combination Gone to Texas and The Vengeance Trail of Josey Wales by Forrest Carter.

I suspect I will get that one done before my next book up, Cortez and Montezuma.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 05, 2018 09:44 AM (2K6fY)

92 87
A little pricey but this would be a good companion.

https://amzn.to/2KtOBUg
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, 3-D Printed Version at August 05, 2018 09:43 AM (+y/Ru)

"Action figure". LOL.

Posted by: rickl at August 05, 2018 09:44 AM (sdi6R)

93 Along the lines of the Revolutionary War book site is Stone & Stone Books, a site about books about WWII. Lots of good stuff here

www.stonebooks.com/

Posted by: josephistan at August 05, 2018 09:46 AM (Izzlo)

94 My throne room reading is usually the comments section at this smart military blog, especially when I have Montezuma's revenge.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 05, 2018 09:47 AM (R5lpX)

95 Power of suggestion - I gotta hit the head. I'll report back with whatever books I find there.

Posted by: josephistan at August 05, 2018 09:47 AM (Izzlo)

96 I dare say it. All of the pioneers died. Eventually.

Posted by: JAS at August 05, 2018 09:48 AM (3HNOQ)

97 Morning, all! Not quite firing on all cylinders here as I spent the night at the Wilford Hall Med Center Sleep Lab, plastered all over with sensors. The cardiologist wished to eliminate the possibility of sleep apnea ... so, OK nights' sleep, and drive back home at 6 AM...
Sigh.
Finished all three of Roy M. Griffis "Lonesome George Chronicles" and now await the fourth and final. The first vol was promoted last week, and sounded interesting - dystopic alternate history, postulating massive sabotage of a terrorist sort, and of a political sort, resulting in the occupation of a good chuck of the West Coast by ISIS-like Muslim fanatics, and the rump political establishment selling out to a Middle Eastern Emirates. The books follow half a dozen separate stories over the years following the initial attack. I usually don't like dystopic, but the individuals and their stories are vividly written, and quite engaging.
Other than that - plugging away on Luna City Lucky 7.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at August 05, 2018 09:48 AM (xnmPy)

98 A little pricey but this would be a good companion.

https://amzn.to/2KtOBUg
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, 3-D Printed Version at August 05, 2018 09:43 AM (+y/Ru)

What are the ratios for the height, width and depth of the newest Apple iPhone again?

Posted by: Kindltot at August 05, 2018 09:49 AM (2K6fY)

99 My throne room reading is usually the comments section at this smart military blog, especially when I have Montezuma's revenge.
Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 05, 2018 09:47 AM (R5lpX)

"...like right now, at this very moment, for example."

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 09:49 AM (y87Qq)

100 Holy shit, I just read that the inexplicable reason that Jeff Flake went to Africa to "monitor" elections is explainable after all.

He is on the judiciary committee and will still be in Africa when the committee reconvenes at the end of the month so the committee will essentially not be able to work to confirm Kavenough without him.

This fucking guy needs to be smacked like the bitch he is.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 05, 2018 09:51 AM (FquqN)

101 For example...yes.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 05, 2018 09:51 AM (R5lpX)

102 A little pricey but this would be a good companion.
https://amzn.to/2KtOBUg
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, 3-D Printed Version at August 05, 2018 09:43 AM (+y/Ru)

Love the reviews.

"I placed this on a table and whenever we need a little evolution we give it a touch. The cat is now writing software manuals. The only drawback is that the roaches are really good at UNO now."

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 09:51 AM (y87Qq)

103 Personally, I prefer the term "oaf" over "moron" as a generic Ace reader term. not only does it have the anagram connection but it lets us use "moron" here to describe really stupid people like Chris Cilliza and Don Lemon.

There are a lot of very smart fools out there (Neil Tyson, Richard Dawkins, et al) who get called stupid a lot, but clearly a lot of people are actually idiotic, lower than normal IQ such as the Cuomo brothers.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 09:51 AM (39g3+)

104 Today's trivia: whence the phrase?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 09:43 AM (fuK7c)

Duh, Churchill. Basically, "Navy tradition? Bah! What is it but rum , sodomy, and the lash?"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 09:51 AM (gUCYC)

105 NEB cannot possibly be as bad as NAB.

Posted by: JAS at August 05, 2018 09:51 AM (3HNOQ)

106 Good Sunday morning, horde!

Had a rough week, what with the husband checking himself into the acute psych ward at the VA, so I didn't get much reading done.

(He's been released, and has a new plan for health, so praises be).

I did start The Country of Ice Cream Star by Sandra Newman. I didn't last long. Seems like it might be a good story of dystopian future, but it was a major pain in the ass to read. The main characters are black, and the author obviously worked very hard to create a language that they use, which is pretty much ghetto, but after everyone forgot regular English.

I appreciate her effort, but I'm not willing to struggle with that for 597 pages.

Posted by: April at August 05, 2018 09:52 AM (e8PP1)

107 And choo choo to you, mother**kers!

That still makes me laugh!

Posted by: April at August 05, 2018 09:53 AM (e8PP1)

108 Duh, Churchill. Basically, "Navy tradition? Bah! What is it but rum , sodomy, and the lash?"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes

Yay Eris!

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 09:53 AM (fuK7c)

109 Jeff Flake is a lame duck. Can the Judiciary Committee not simply declare that seat vacant and plant some other buttock on it? One not covered in downy feathers and a band-aid?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 05, 2018 09:53 AM (N1ZXu)

110 A little pricey but this would be a good companion.

https://amzn.to/2KtOBUg
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, 3-D Printed Version at August 05, 2018 09:43 AM (+y/Ru)

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Fully articulated!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 09:53 AM (gUCYC)

111 Personally, I prefer the term "oaf" over "moron" as a generic Ace reader term.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 09:51 AM (39g3+)

I am very adamant that "oaves" be the plural form.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 09:54 AM (y87Qq)

112 I've been reading about book illustrators, who often had interesting lives, and to try to figure out why their art is so effective: style, media used, influences from other artists, etc. Since I'm trying to learn to draw, strictly for my own amusement and hopefully to improve my observation skills, it's been fun reading. So far it's been about Beatrix Potter, Ernest Shepard, and Arthur Rackham.

Two books I started this week continue that theme. The first is "Bandersnatch" (not our Horde member) by Diana Glyer. It's an interesting read about how the Inklings influenced each other over the years, especially concerning their best known works. A large part of the appeal of the book are the illustrations by James A. Owen. These are wonderfully intricate pen and ink drawings. The second book is "The Lord of the Rings Sketchbook" by Alan Lee. It describes how he developed so many images used for the books and the LOTR films and includes over 150 pencil sketches he did as he refined his ideas.

I keep a good magnifying glass at hand when reading these books. It's the only way to see the techniques these artists used to make the images so effective. Hell, with careful study, they can serve as tutorials on drawing, although that isn't their purpose.

Posted by: JTB at August 05, 2018 09:54 AM (V+03K)

113 >>NEB cannot possibly be as bad as NAB.

N.I.B. -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaRtXYSszsA

FTW

Posted by: garrett at August 05, 2018 09:54 AM (aCN2J)

114 I am unconvinced that Neil, the Gas, Tyson is smart. Dawkins is smart (if foolish, yes).

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 05, 2018 09:54 AM (N1ZXu)

115 I am very adamant that "oaves" be the plural form.

Would a gathering of oaves be an oaven?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 09:55 AM (fuK7c)

116 "Navy tradition? Bah! What is it but rum , sodomy, and the lash?"
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 09:51 AM

We like to think we've added colliding with other ships' to that tradition.

Posted by: Seventh Fleet Officers of the Deck Association at August 05, 2018 09:55 AM (DMUuz)

117 Why do Sleep Clinics have the most uncomfortable mattresses? The one time I went to one there was a crater right in the middle of the bed. I had to sleep in a U shape around the edge of it.

I guess most of their apnea patients are in the 300+ lb range but they could afford to replace the mattresses at what they charge.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2018 09:55 AM (yQpMk)

118 LOL, "It's full of stars!"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 09:55 AM (gUCYC)

119 I got shot in the physbuttockes.

Posted by: Forrest Gump at August 05, 2018 09:55 AM (QLvwG)

120 Sabbath always wins.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 05, 2018 09:57 AM (89T5c)

121 I'm currently reading the first "Roma Sub Rosa" mystery Roman Blood, by Steven Saylor. Like the SPQR mystery series, its set just before Caesar takes over (starting a bit earlier under Sulla's reign) and has a man who is a sleuth of sorts. In this case, Gordanius is a professional, he digs into mysteries for a modest living rather than being a noble who manages to get tangled up in mysteries.

The writing is pretty good and the history seems solid. I like the mystery so far, and nothing stands out as violating logic or historical evidence we have. The problem is that at least this book has a lot of sex in it, gratuitously so. Its described more than it needs to be and repeated in flashbacks and memories. I don't need a detailed account of what its like when Gordanius bumps uglies with his slave girl.

I mean, its no graphic and play-by-play, but its way more specific than the story requires and seems to be in the book not to serve the story but just because Saylor likes to write naughty scenes.

To me, that's even more jarring than it books such as, say Stephen Hunter's I, Ripper where he gives excessively specific, autopsy level accounts of the Ripper's murders from his perspective as he's doing it. It becomes not so much storytelling as a form of pornography and it makes me start skipping pages.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 09:57 AM (39g3+)

122 I'm rereading The Secret History of Costaguana by Juan Gabriel Vasquez and translated by Anne McLean (the person who recommended this read it in Spanish and considered the translation to be superior, which is an odd take but his tastes are superb) with my book group and, as is always the case with rereads, am enjoying it thoroughly. It's about a fictitious tie in between the Colombian narrator and Josef Conrad and what the *real* story behind Nostromo is. But that's just a skeletal outline and there's much more going on.

Speaking of rereads I'm still thoroughly enjoying the reread of The Master and Margarita, this time the Burgin/O'Connor translation that is vastly superior to the clunky version (with a neat cover illustration of Behemoth the huge black cat) I bought at the commie book store in San Franshitsco, City Lights.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 05, 2018 09:58 AM (y7DUB)

123 Naval medical library!....so short arm missives only? slightly wet.

Posted by: saf at August 05, 2018 09:58 AM (5IHGB)

124 >>Sabbath always wins.

Yep.

You can keep your Beatles, Stones and everyone else...

I'll take the first 4 Sabbath LPs.

Posted by: garrett at August 05, 2018 09:58 AM (aCN2J)

125 Can the Judiciary Committee not simply declare that seat vacant and plant some other buttock on it?

Pretty sure the majority leader can remove people from committees and replace them, but they never seem to do it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 09:59 AM (39g3+)

126 Good morning, oafrons!

I finished The Art of the Deal. It was not as engaging as Iacocca.

I am in the process of getting books ready for the big library sale next month. It is hard to give up books, even those I will never read again or stopped reading midway.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at August 05, 2018 10:00 AM (/+bwe)

127 Anonosaurus Wrecks

Only one left, so I'll leave it for someone else!

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at August 05, 2018 10:01 AM (CuFV9)

128 121-I read those years ago, and I enjoy the history, but the sexual stuff was a bit much for me. I guess I'm a prude at heart. Still good reads.

Posted by: moki at August 05, 2018 10:02 AM (V+V48)

129 A book thread broke out in one of the Friday evening threads and His Despicable Furriness says he's actually reading the Hound of the Baskervilles.

The mistake with reading the Hound is to presume its a Sherlock Holmes story. Its not, except in a tangential sense. Its a Gothic horror story that includes characters from the Sherlock Holmes stories. Yes, technically Sherlock solves the case, but only at the end (he's missing entirely for the bulk of the story) and the case pretty much solves its self.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 10:03 AM (39g3+)

130 Clarke wants to meet with Kubrick in New York, but he can't leave Ceylon without paying the capricious tax authorities, and he can't do that because his assets in the U.S. are frozen because of an ongoing divorce dispute.

His marriage was brief but acrimonious -- she neglected to tell Arthur she had already had a hysterectomy, and he neglected to tell her he was gay.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 10:04 AM (gUCYC)

131 Well, it's been fun, but stuff to do, like jump start my truck. Some idiot,(me), left the GPS on when he went out of town for eight weeks and the battery went dead.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 05, 2018 10:04 AM (R5lpX)

132 100 He is on the judiciary committee and will still be
in Africa when the committee reconvenes at the end of the month so the
committee will essentially not be able to work to confirm Kavenough
without him.

This fucking guy needs to be smacked like the bitch he is.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 05, 2018 09:51 AM (FquqN)

His absence will put the committee at 9-9. That should not be able to keep them from sending Kavenough to the floor for a vote. Even if the committee votes to not confirm him the they can only make recommendations to the Senate. The Senate still gets to vote on the nomination.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 05, 2018 10:04 AM (mpXpK)

133 Would a gathering of oaves be an oaven?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 09:55 AM (fuK7c)

The food kitchen could be "Oaves and Mishes".

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 10:05 AM (y87Qq)

134 One of the books in my library haul this week, Jell-O Girls, is a huge disappointment. The main premise is, Jell-O is one of the major tools used by The Patriarchy to destroy women's creativity and independence. Yes, really.

I went with the title, thinking I was getting a social history of Jell-O, lighthearted and fun. Turns out it's a memoir about a pair of high maintenance, hysterical, neurotic mother-daughter woke feminists who have spent their lives resenting their inability to lead functional, fulfilling lives. Both of them benefit financially from being Jell-O heirs but they're both so eternally conflicted and embarrassed about not having to work for a living. (eyeroll)

I stuck with it, though, because it's unintentionally, hilariously bad. The daughter who wrote it blames men for growing up feeling estranged from her family members, sleeping with her uncle because he told her how beautiful she was, doing copious amounts of drugs and alcohol, sleeping around, and spending time in a mental institution. Her poor choices and self-hatred don't garner any sympathy because of her arid wasteland of a mental, emotional, and intellectual life.

She repeatedly dismisses the lovely-sounding small town of LeRoy, New York, where she grew up as a terrible place. Conservatives live there, you see, and they're all uptight hypocrites like her uncle (not the one she slept with, that one was the kewl uncle) who conspire to keep women prisoner.

Her mother managed to break free and become an artiste, living a trust-fund hippie-chic life in various places in New England, scaring her daughter into literal nightmares with her talk about the evil monster The Patriarchy. Finally mom dies of cancer and frankly, who cares at this point?

I guess I'd chalk this one up as so-bad-it's-good, a 'Showgirls' of a book.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 05, 2018 10:05 AM (2NqXo)

135 Yes, technically Sherlock solves the case, but only at the end (he's missing entirely for the bulk of the story) and the case pretty much solves its self.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 10:03 AM (39g3+)
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Wow, this is very perceptive and tells me why I thought it felt "off", even though it was good as a story. What do think is the most representative Holmes case?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 10:05 AM (gUCYC)

136 Holy shit, I just read that the inexplicable reason that Jeff Flake went to Africa to "monitor" elections is explainable after all.

He is on the judiciary committee and will still be in Africa when the committee reconvenes at the end of the month so the committee will essentially not be able to work to confirm Kavenough without him.

This fucking guy needs to be smacked like the bitch he is.
Posted by: Kreplach at August 05, 2018 09:51 AM (FquqN)

McTurtle is only considered a decent leader when compared to that worthless pile of shit, Eddie Munster. That lying deeply closeted homo, Flake, promised not to oppose Kavanaugh but then travels to an African shithole to oversee their corrupt elections like a latter day Jimmy Carter who prefers cock to cooter. If McConnell had a hair on his pansy ass Flake would return to a storage closet for an office and his staff living in a homeless shelter.

Except for Rand Paul and Cotton the Senate Repukes are 100% worthless, particularly that Mueller supporting Grassley.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 05, 2018 10:06 AM (y7DUB)

137 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 05, 2018 08:58 AM (mpXpK)

As far as the Foundation series, yes a bit dry, but I read in in High School and was fascinated by the math theory of predicting history until one sabo destroys the machine. And another Lucas stealiong another's idea of a planet that is one big city.

I also got a kick out of the MST3k skits depicting Asimov.

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Posted by: NaughtyPine at August 05, 2018 10:00 AM (/+bwe)

Iacocca . that brings back memories of the K car and my HS econ teacher being a full socialist country club idiot (he was born with a golf club in his had and his dad was the driver's ed teacher). I was just assuming that 'The Art of a Deal' was a Sun Tzu modernize for the business world. Is it worth a read?

Posted by: auscolpyr at August 05, 2018 10:08 AM (oFsfu)

138 but the sexual stuff was a bit much for me. I guess I'm a prude at heart. Still good reads.

Since this is the first book and I don't know how the author develops clues and builds a story, I'm not sure if I can skip the sex scenes or not yet. Once I've finished the book I'll have a better sense on what is filler or just to get sales, and can skim or skip those parts.

Violence bothers me less in books than sex because violence is often literally resolving conflict. But either one is annoying and troubling if its there in too specific and complete detail, because then it as turned into more the writer's fixation and delight in the act rather than storytelling.

And I'm sure there are those who'd call me a prude, as well. To me, sex is private, something we do away from others.

And Muse, thanks for passing on the book recommendation. There are an awful lot of Sherlock Holmes collections out there now, and most of them are pretty tepid if awful. Shadows is one of the good ones.

I read one that was stories about Sherlock before he became a detective and they were a range of awful to insulting. Too many people writing these stories have no comprehension whatsoever of the character or what he's supposed to be.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 10:09 AM (39g3+)

139 Along the lines of the Revolutionary War book site is Stone & Stone Books, a site about books about WWII. Lots of good stuff here

www.stonebooks.com/

Posted by: josephistan

Bookmarked !

Thanks !

Posted by: JT at August 05, 2018 10:11 AM (Hr+xV)

140 This fucking guy needs to be smacked like the bitch he is.
Posted by: Kreplach at August 05, 2018 09:51 AM (FquqN)

Maybe he can just go to SA and relive Zimbabwe 2.0. A-hat needs a safari without a guide and 100 SPF cream he uses. Used car salesmen have nothing on him.

Posted by: auscolpyr at August 05, 2018 10:11 AM (oFsfu)

141 Naval library?...."Three men in Das Boot'eh" dive dive dive...come up for air sub Gasper-meister.
Can't beat the meat served in the submarine mess.... so i have heard.

Posted by: saf at August 05, 2018 10:11 AM (5IHGB)

142 (bosun's pipe sound) Attention! It is still 2018.we need to savor every minute of our PDT time. I repeat: despite what the Book Thread would have you believe, it is still 2018. That is all.

Posted by: goatexchange at August 05, 2018 10:13 AM (YFnq5)

143 Posted by: goatexchange at August 05, 2018 10:13 AM (YFnq5)

Should be a prize for really reading the content.

Wow

Posted by: weirdflunky at August 05, 2018 10:14 AM (SUoEu)

144 I just looked out the window and saw a beautiful long-haired brown cat with white feet walking across my front yard and driveway. I've never seen it before. Aww.

Posted by: rickl at August 05, 2018 10:14 AM (sdi6R)

145 I *just* noticed the 2019.

Goatexchange is our Data, he senses temporal distortion.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 10:15 AM (gUCYC)

146 I'm relistening to The Big Fat Surprise by Nina Teiccholz, which is about the benefits of eating meat and fat.
It seems the food pyramid commonly promoted by government and the high carb-low fat diet became "settled science" the same way global warming did-great PR and the bullying, intimidation and ostracism of any dissenters.
The science behind the insistence that fat consumption is directly related to heart disease has always been shaky.
But any studies bringing that belief into question were ignored.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at August 05, 2018 10:16 AM (nBr1j)

147 OM- I've been poking around in Navy Medicine sites. Found this reference to the E.R.Stitt Medical Library at Naval Medical Center (Bethesda) which was founded in 1902, which matches the date on your photo. A Bing image search for E.R. Stitt library pops up your photo. Could be the place.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 05, 2018 10:16 AM (mvenn)

148 Oops- forgot the link

http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?
story_id=56769

Posted by: Muldoon at August 05, 2018 10:16 AM (mvenn)

149 Sausage McMuffin, welcome to the august and glorious ranks of the Moron Authors! Promote like the wind! (all the rest of us do....) now for penance, tell the Book Thread the name of the literary outrage you have perpetrated. Then see the Goodreads group for more authorial pimpage opportunities.
And now back to the giant space battle, already in progress...

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at August 05, 2018 10:18 AM (L59/U)

150 I don't see how Flake gets away with this... it's got to be some form of dereliction of duty. Like an actual, throw 'em in handcuffs crime. Sure, he thinks he's teflon because he's not running for re-election, but I would love to see him dragged back to the senate floor in shackles, just to put his ass on record for all of posterity as being the decisive vote to stymie this nomination.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2018 10:18 AM (BRvh1)

151 I see Eris is still reading a book about 2001. Which one is it? Because I don't recall the divorce stuff in Agel's book.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 05, 2018 10:20 AM (4XJDo)

152 I'm glad our side is pushing back with current books, articles, tweets and so forth about politics. But I no longer get them as they seem to have a half life of a few minutes and they just add to my pissed offedness. After Watergate, I read quite a few of the books that came out and have done so with other big deal moments in our history like 9/11, Cuban Missle Crisis, Desert Storm, etc.

The means to be adequately informed have expanded, AOSHQ is a prime example, and as good as I'm sure Greg Jarrett's book is, my time is better spent reading books that improve skills, add to my appreciation of historical military, cultural and artistic matters, entertain (O'Brian, Cornwell, Robert Howard, Lovecraft, ERB, Donald Hamilton, and so many others), and inspire.

I'm old enough to know that the political subject du jour, good or bad, is a passing thing. In my mid-twenties I didn't realize that. 40 years later I know better.

Posted by: JTB at August 05, 2018 10:20 AM (V+03K)

153 http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?
story_id=56769

I followed the link, because bored
Got there and was 404-ed
I guess it's a cavil
About something Naval
But it's a mean thing to do to the Horde

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 10:21 AM (fuK7c)

154 What do think is the most representative Holmes case?

I'm not sure. A Scandal in Bohemia showcases his skill but also his focus on justice over law. The Speckled Band is a great story about sheer intellectual firepower dealing with a really mystifying case. I like the Musgrave Ritual for being a pure intellectual exercise worked out from very tiny, seemingly insignificant clues that are in some cases from so long ago they cannot be investigated normally.

The problem with Holmes stories is that (like his tricks in detailing a newcomer or baffling Watson) once he explains it, its all so obvious, so in hindsight its less dazzling than the first reading.

Sherlock Holmes and John Watson are modern day knights, they are men of honor who battle evil and triumph through discipline and skill without sacrificing their honor and virtue. No case is too low or meaningless, no fee too small, the only thing that matters is the challenge and the curiosity of the case. Holmes is no respecter of titles or social status, only character and virtue.

Watson is so completely self-effacing he goes out of his way to make himself seem stupid in his stories, despite being clearly a bright man with a very successful medical career.

Both are physically capable in a fight but rarely need to use it because Holmes sets up the situation to avoid violence. Holmes seems arrogant and dismissive not because he's a jerk or full of himself, but because he lives on such an incredibly high plane of intellectual ability he's surprised by how others are not. Both are completely honest, to the point its painful to them as a person to have to be deceptive on rare occasions.

Both have such a strong and specific moral code that Holmes on several occasions simply avoids turning in bad guys who are either dying anyway or that he feels would be unjust for them to face punishment (such as the woman who guns down Milverton). He refuses payment in most cases except from those vastly wealthy who won't miss the fee.

Bad writers turn Holmes into a rude bastard who cares nothing for humanity, Watson into a drooling imbecile, and the both of them into clue-chasers rather than knights-arrant hunting down evil.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 10:22 AM (39g3+)

155 'really stupid people like Chris Cilliza and Don Lemon.'

They struggle to rise to the level of imbecile and fall far short of being small letter m morons.

Posted by: Ashley Wilts at August 05, 2018 10:22 AM (UdKB7)

156 Ongoing space battle?

Capt. Kristol has taken his cruise into ssssppppaaccceeee?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 05, 2018 10:22 AM (4XJDo)

157 I just looked out the window and saw a beautiful long-haired brown cat with white feet walking across my front yard and driveway. I've never seen it before. Aww.
Posted by: rickl at August 05, 2018 10:14 AM (sdi6R)

"I meant," said Ipslore bitterly, "what is there in this world that truly makes living worthwhile?"
Death thought about it.
CATS, he said eventually. CATS ARE NICE.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 10:23 AM (y87Qq)

158 'Goatexchange is our Data, he senses temporal distortion'

Great now he might go berserk and endanger the whole blog.

Posted by: Ashley Wilts at August 05, 2018 10:24 AM (UdKB7)

159 The science behind the insistence that fat consumption is directly related to heart disease has always been shaky.
But any studies bringing that belief into question were ignored.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at August 05, 2018 10:16 AM

The relationship between food and cholesterol level is just as shaky. Just because firemen show up at every fire, does that mean they set every fire?

I've seen interviews with heart surgeons who claim that they get heart disease/transplant patients with cholesterol levels all over the spectrum.

Fat is good. If we don't eat it we'll die. Protein is good. If we don't eat it we'll die.

Carbs?

* crickets *

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 05, 2018 10:24 AM (LOgQ4)

160 hello escaped oafs!

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 05, 2018 10:25 AM (CE6iV)

161 Fat is good. If we don't eat it we'll die. Protein is good. If we don't eat it we'll die.

Carbs?

* crickets *

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 05, 2018 10:24 AM (LOgQ4)

*nods*
*takes another drink of bulletproof coffee*

Posted by: Bert G at August 05, 2018 10:25 AM (yzxic)

162 Just because firemen show up at every fire, does that mean they set every fire?
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 05, 2018 10:24 AM (LOgQ4)

*eyes go wide*
*leans back in chair*

THE PERFECT CRIME

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 10:26 AM (y87Qq)

163 Combining 'medical' and 'Navy'.. the first woman MD in the Navy was in 1948. My mother began service as a Navy doctor in 1949. Damn, now i will need to do some research.....

Posted by: goatexchange at August 05, 2018 10:26 AM (YFnq5)

164 Hello there votermom.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 10:26 AM (y87Qq)

165 Hell, the fat is the tastiest part of the steak, that and the marrow from the bone. I always eat the fat.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 05, 2018 10:27 AM (R5lpX)

166 Katshit must think LeBron is a mailman since he's opening his huge sloppy food intake maw to defend him.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 05, 2018 10:27 AM (y7DUB)

167 >>I always eat the fat.

No Fat Chicks

Posted by: garrett at August 05, 2018 10:27 AM (aCN2J)

168 The relationship between food and cholesterol level is just as shaky. Just because firemen show up at every fire, does that mean they set every fire?

Its the same way with salt and heart disease. Many assumptions without scientific connection. I mean, its clear that eating too much of anything is bad for you (you can poison yourself by drinking too much water, for instance). And its also clear that the "too much" varies greatly -- too much sugar is much less than too much wheat, for example.

The problem is that people want easy, clear answers to a very complex problem that varies from person to person. Its a hell of a lot easier to say "just cut out all red meat" than to say "in your case, eating slightly less red meat would probably help."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 10:27 AM (39g3+)

169 Some folk are predisposed to Heart Disease.

Diet won't change that.

Posted by: garrett at August 05, 2018 10:28 AM (aCN2J)

170 Carbs?

* crickets *
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 05, 2018 10:24 AM (LOgQ4)

Someone told me that shilling for carbs was a political calculation by McGovern to pimp the wheat farmers.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 05, 2018 10:29 AM (y7DUB)

171 Sausage McMuffin, welcome to the august and glorious ranks of the Moron Authors! Promote like the wind! (all the rest of us do....) now for penance, tell the Book Thread the name of the literary outrage you have perpetrated. Then see the Goodreads group for more authorial pimpage opportunities.
And now back to the giant space battle, already in progress...
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at August 05, 2018 10:18 AM (L59/U)

Whew, thank you! I'm already a member of Goodreads, but it's kind of dead over there. Anyway, without further ado ...

I have an unsaleably long fantasy novel manuscript I've posted over on Wattpad. Yes, that site is full of teen authors and awful fanfiction (I didn't know that when I started posting), but it's a supportive community and there is a track record of writers using it as a springboard toward traditional publishing. So here's the blurb and link for my novel, which will be fully posted by August 10.

THE CURSEWRIGHT'S VOW

Ammas Mourthia is a cursewright -- an order of outlaw magicians as adept at casting curses as breaking them. Practicing his trade in the bustling city of Munazyr, he is hired by the last person he ever expected: the daughter of the cruel Emperor who put his brethren to the sword and slaughtered his family. The Princess Carala has little choice: thanks to her father, there are no other cursewrights who might purge the werewolf's blood that now infects her. Bound by his oaths to aid even the daughter of his most hated enemy, Ammas delivers the cure to Carala ... only for it to nearly kill her.

Now, confronted with a strain of the sickness he cannot treat, pursued by a vicious pack of werewolves who want Carala for their own dark purposes, and forced to return to a part of the world where he is a wanted criminal, Ammas must try to lay his hands on the real cure if he is to have a hope of upholding the vows he swore to his trade and his client. But there are forces at play he cannot control, and secrets darker than any he ever imagined waiting to be disturbed.

Fulfilling his vows might be the last thing Ammas Mourthia ever does.

https://www.wattpad.com/story/151705323-the-cursewright%27s-vow

Posted by: Sausage McMuffin at August 05, 2018 10:30 AM (tSFch)

172 *shakes fist at AnnaPuma* Bad catgirl! No tuna! This is a *serious* space battle, with aliens and shit. No stuffy cruises allowed.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at August 05, 2018 10:30 AM (L59/U)

173 Okay, try this link to the E.R. Stitt Medical Library mention. I still can't directly tie the photo to that particular library, but I think it is likely

https://tinyurl.com/ybmo3wsj

Posted by: Muldoon at August 05, 2018 10:30 AM (mvenn)

174 Ongoing space battle? Try the Death Blossom button.

Posted by: Griggs at August 05, 2018 10:30 AM (QLvwG)

175 169
Some folk are predisposed to Heart Disease.

Diet won't change that.

Posted by: garrett at August 05, 2018 10:28 AM (aCN2J)

Heredity is the biggest cause of Heart Disease. Diet is far down the list behind smoking and other causes.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 05, 2018 10:31 AM (mpXpK)

176 >>Heredity is the biggest cause of Heart Disease. Diet is far down the list behind smoking and other causes.

Yep. We're born to die.

The Doc has to write something on your Toe Tag...best not to worry about it.

Posted by: garrett at August 05, 2018 10:32 AM (aCN2J)

177 Anna, this is Space Odyssey: Stanley Kubrick, Arthur C. Clarke, and the Making of a Masterpiece by Michael Benson. It's pretty new.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 10:33 AM (gUCYC)

178 Heredity is the biggest cause of Heart Disease. Diet is far down the list behind smoking and other causes.

That's why one guy can eat crap and smoke until he's 102 and another can eat careful and jog every day, then die at 40. Again: its very complex and humans are different from one another. There is no "perfect diet" and you cannot get a good diet from reading some dude's book.

Ongoing space battle? Try the Death Blossom button.

"worked for us!"
--Guardians of the Galaxy

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 10:33 AM (39g3+)

179 I just saw a group of three adults and a crying child walk down the street. I suspect there's a connection to the cat I saw earlier. I'm tempted to get dressed and go out to look for it, but that was almost half an hour ago. The cat could be anywhere by now.

Posted by: rickl at August 05, 2018 10:34 AM (sdi6R)

180 Venezuelan President After Assassination Attempt: 'Trump Needs To Help Me Fight These Terrorists'

-
Send him Occasional Fiasco.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, 3-D Printed Version at August 05, 2018 10:34 AM (+y/Ru)

181 So here's the blurb and link for my novel, which will be fully posted by August 10.

Sounds interesting, congrats on finishing up a novel! There's no such thing as an unsellable manuscript. There are some that probably shouldn't have been published, but none that cannot be.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 10:35 AM (39g3+)

182 178 That's why one guy can eat crap and smoke until he's
102 and another can eat careful and jog every day, then die at 40.
Again: its very complex and humans are different from one another.
There is no "perfect diet" and you cannot get a good diet from reading
some dude's book.

Ongoing space battle? Try the Death Blossom button.

"worked for us!"

--Guardians of the Galaxy

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 10:33 AM (39g3+)

I did a LOT of research on heart disease when I had my heart attack. And diet is only a minor contributor. And salt is a much maligned food too.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 05, 2018 10:35 AM (mpXpK)

183 Go look around your house rickl. What can it hurt?

Posted by: Ashley Wilts at August 05, 2018 10:35 AM (UdKB7)

184 Anyone with a copy of the Koran that I can flush?

Posted by: Libra at August 05, 2018 10:35 AM (u0gU9)

185 114 I am unconvinced that Neil, the Gas, Tyson is smart. Dawkins is smart (if foolish, yes).
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 05, 2018 09:54 AM (N1ZXu)

He's just smart enough to convince stupid people he's smart. Relatively smart people know better.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 05, 2018 10:36 AM (G+ub2)

186 Hmm. 'Rum', 'Sodomy', 'The Lash'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 05, 2018 09:03 AM (CDGwz)

I embiggened the picture, and saw 120 volumes of the Journal of Amputation, and 50 of the Journal of Short-arm Inspection.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 05, 2018 10:36 AM (NV/E7)

187 >>I embiggened the picture, and saw 120 volumes of the Journal of Amputation, and 50 of the Journal of Short-arm Inspection.

!

Posted by: Michele Fields at August 05, 2018 10:37 AM (aCN2J)

188 Someone told me that shilling for carbs was a political calculation by McGovern to pimp the wheat farmers.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 05, 2018 10:29 AM

McGovern (D) was at the absolute epicenter of government recommendations. He was on some weird diet at the time with a lot of grains, or such shit, and thought everyone should adopt it. Zealots be zealotty.

His appointments to some govmint position kept resigning because they knew that diet was bullshit. They finally found some hack to sign off on it. Tens of millions of premature deaths later the settled science was quietly abandoned with a whispered, 'By the way...'

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 05, 2018 10:37 AM (LOgQ4)

189 Re Sherlock Holmes. I dislike the Basil Rathbone/Nigel Bruce movies because of the way Watson is presented as an overweight, bumbling buffoon.
The Jeremy Brett/Edward Hardwick series was far better.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at August 05, 2018 10:37 AM (nBr1j)

190 By the way, Candace Owens, social media personality, was banned from Twitter for doing what I momentarily considered doing.

She reposted all of Sarah Jeong's anti-white tweets but substituted the word "black" everywhere she said "white." Suddenly, these became unacceptably hate-packed racism requiring immediate bannage from Twitter.

Sort of making the point, really.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 10:38 AM (39g3+)

191 Hi Rons and Ettes. Sitting at a truck stop twenty miles outside Green Bay Wisconsin working on Chapter 8 of Amy Lynn #6. Bought a lakefront lot on Lake Hartwell in south Carolina. Look forward to paying it off, building a house and writing with that view off my deck.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 05, 2018 10:38 AM (G+ub2)

192 Note: Caught up, start again here

Posted by: Skip at August 05, 2018 10:38 AM (lxZ71)

193 I'm tempted to get dressed and go out to look for it, but that was almost half an hour ago. The cat could be anywhere by now.

Posted by: rickl at August 05, 2018 10:34 AM

So true.

* continues stirring secret sauce *

Posted by: China Magic Noodle House Restaurant at August 05, 2018 10:39 AM (LOgQ4)

194 My nomination for worst edited/proofread book of the 21st cen tury is "Nixon's Secrets," published in 2014 by Roger Stone. It has lots of new-to-me information on how the CIA and FBI set up the Watergate bugging (and other escapades) so that when the plumbers were caught (as the plans by CIA/FBI called for) it would all point to the White House and Nixon. This part is interesting, if true, and I assume it probably is and that our currently corrupt FBI and CIA haven't strayed far from the 1970's ethos.
However.... the editing is awful. Sentences without subjects. Sentences without verbs. Sentences without objects. Sentences that are seven or 8 lines long; so that you forgot who was doing what to whom. There are numerous passages that are repeated -- sometimes word for word, often with a little bit of rewriting -- with only a sentence in between. Stone tries to cover up for this by sometimes beginning the 2nd instance with "As I have described elsewhere, ..." Except that the elsewhere is only 25 words previously. And it said exactly the same thing.
Proofreading..... Stone writes about a staffer who was interviewing for a promotion who told him after the interview, "I hope I made a god impression...." In a chapter on Haig, he writes that bugs "... were placed by the same rouge elements of the CIA ...". There's an end-note #20 after a particularly interesting passage. I turn to the end of the chapter, and . . . . the references/end-notes only go up to 18!
I'm assuming that since I haven't caught him in any bloopers of fact that things he's writing that I didn't know are true. Which is why I'm continuing to plow through it.

Posted by: Three and One at August 05, 2018 10:39 AM (31Dqk)

195 Hmm. 'Rum', 'Sodomy', 'The Lash'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 05, 2018 09:03 AM (CDGwz)

Sounds like the cab of my truck at a rural truck stop during my day off.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 05, 2018 10:40 AM (G+ub2)

196 Grump - I would visit that private little library and put in some serious reading

Posted by: Skip at August 05, 2018 10:40 AM (lxZ71)

197 Additional info and photos on that Ju-52 crash in the Alps.

https://bit.ly/2ATDuVt

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, 3-D Printed Version at August 05, 2018 10:40 AM (+y/Ru)

198 191
Hi Rons and Ettes. Sitting at a truck stop twenty miles outside Green
Bay Wisconsin working on Chapter 8 of Amy Lynn #6. Bought a lakefront
lot on Lake Hartwell in south Carolina. Look forward to paying it off,
building a house and writing with that view off my deck.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 05, 2018 10:38 AM (G+ub2)

Welcome to SC. I bet you paid a pretty penny for that lakefront property.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 05, 2018 10:40 AM (mpXpK)

199 "Stitt Library at BUMED, 1902. (This is in the former Naval Observatory rotunda which housed a telescope at 23rd St, NW, Washington, DC). "

http://tinyurl.com/y72kqqga

Posted by: geoffb at August 05, 2018 10:40 AM (zOpu5)

200 ''Katshit must think LeBron is a mailman since he's opening his huge sloppy food intake maw to defend him.''

James and his over inflated ego can sure hand it out with his non stop nasty comments about PDT but he sure can't take can he? Who did he think he was dealing with? I guess he found out good and hard.

Posted by: Tuna at August 05, 2018 10:40 AM (jm1YL)

201 Rick, open up a can of Fancy Feast. The cat will appear as if by magic.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 10:41 AM (gUCYC)

202 Sorry for the lack of paragraph spacing in my screed above. I hit <enter>

three times in between paragraphs. What else <shift enter>

should I do?

Posted by: Three and One at August 05, 2018 10:42 AM (31Dqk)

203 Carbs?

* crickets *
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 05, 2018 10:24 AM (LOgQ4)

Well don't go talking about that, it turns out people just aren't interested in hearing it. You'd think promoting good nutrition and fitness would go over well, yeah? Man, I have never gotten more dirty looks at once than I did wearing a homemade I ♥ CARB STOMPING shirt to a PTA meeting.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 10:42 AM (y87Qq)

204
Welcome to SC. I bet you paid a pretty penny for that lakefront property.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 05, 2018 10:40 AM (mpXpK)

You don't ave to welcome me, I've lived in Greenville then Spartanburg for the past six years. Yeah, that property not be cheap. But, they're not making any more of it so I reckon it's a good investment.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 05, 2018 10:43 AM (G+ub2)

205
Sounds interesting, congrats on finishing up a novel! There's no such thing as an unsellable manuscript. There are some that probably shouldn't have been published, but none that cannot be.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 10:35 AM (39g3+)

Thanks! It really is too long -- about 290,000 words, which puts it on the scale of the first Song of Ice and Fire book, and I ain't George RR Martin -- but I'm hoping it'll get an online audience that might sway someone with the ability to do something for it.

Posted by: Sausage McMuffin at August 05, 2018 10:43 AM (tSFch)

206 Posted by: Tuna at August 05, 2018 10:40 AM (jm1YL)

I was ranting about it for a hot minute on the previous thread... didn't want to bring my shrieking and flailing into the book thread.

(oh, who am i kidding. I just didn't feel like putting pants on.)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2018 10:44 AM (BRvh1)

207 Bought a lakefront lot on Lake Hartwell in south Carolina. Look forward to paying it off, building a house and writing with that view off my deck.
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 05, 2018 10:38 AM (G+ub2)

Welcome new neighbor. You'll be about 20 miles from Casa d Traveling Man. Great area especially if you like to fish and hunt.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 05, 2018 10:44 AM (R5lpX)

208 Holy shit, I just read that the inexplicable
reason that Jeff Flake went to Africa to "monitor" elections is
explainable after all.

He is on the judiciary committee and will still be in Africa when
the committee reconvenes at the end of the month so the committee will
essentially not be able to work to confirm Kavenough without him.

This fucking guy needs to be smacked like the bitch he is.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 05, 2018 09:51 AM (FquqN)

McTurtle is only considered a decent leader when compared to that
worthless pile of shit, Eddie Munster. That lying deeply closeted homo,
Flake, promised not to oppose Kavanaugh but then travels to an African
shithole to oversee their corrupt elections like a latter day Jimmy
Carter who prefers cock to cooter. If McConnell had a hair on his pansy
ass Flake would return to a storage closet for an office and his staff
living in a homeless shelter.

Except for Rand Paul and Cotton the Senate Repukes are 100% worthless, particularly that Mueller supporting Grassley.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 05, 2018 10:06 AM (y7DUB)

Seems like an excellent time for Yertle to remove him from the judiciary committee and replace him with someone non-useless.

Posted by: redbanzai at August 05, 2018 10:44 AM (LQqiF)

209 The Jeremy Brett/Edward Hardwick series was far better.

The first episode of the Sherlock TV show did a pretty good job with Watson as well. Then they fell into the old stupid pattern. He's a soldier, a doctor, and a man who actually understands women better than Holmes. He's not an idiot, he only seems that way in comparison to the second brightest man alive. But then, everyone on earth does, except for Mycroft.

The Jeremy Brett shows had flaws (especially near the end of the run) but their depiction of Holmes and Watson were absolutely perfect. Brett was born to play that role, just like David Suchet was born to play Hercule Poirot.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 10:45 AM (39g3+)

210 A Crucible of Souls
The Sorcery Ascendant Sequence

I am really enjoying this series, his town gets invaded so you assume they are the bad guys but are they? and the Empire is the good guys but are they really. It's an interesting take on the Hero just wanting to survive and not do evil things or become the bad guy. I like the world building where there was a Shattering and knowledge of certain types of Sorcery are suppressed, Some people being used as slaves but not knowing they are slaves in service to the Emperor.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at August 05, 2018 10:46 AM (Nfjta)

211 Welcome new neighbor. You'll be about 20 miles from Casa d Traveling Man. Great area especially if you like to fish and hunt.
Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 05, 2018 10:44 AM (R5lpX)

Cool, instant Ron friend. It's in Foxwood hills.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 05, 2018 10:46 AM (G+ub2)

212 Sorry for the lack of paragraph spacing in my screed above. I hit
three times in between paragraphs. What else
should I do?
Posted by: Three and One at August 05, 2018 10:42 AM

Turn off JavaScript. Install a utility program like NoScript.

Posted by: China Magic Noodle House Restaurant at August 05, 2018 10:46 AM (LOgQ4)

213 Holy shit, I just read that the inexplicable reason that Jeff Flake went to Africa to "monitor" elections is explainable after all.
Posted by: Kreplach at August 05, 2018 09:51 AM (FquqN)

Respectfully submitted to the style guide committee for consideration:

"Jeff Flake" s/b "the Inexplicable Jeff Flake".

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 10:47 AM (y87Qq)

214 Buckley ran it his way because it was his creation. When he left it to the crotch ferrets, including his dickweed son, they were a grab bag of incoherent cravings to be accepted by the DC denizens.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 05, 2018 09:44 AM (y7DUB)

As long as O'Sullivan was active, it was still worth reading. But when Lowry took over, it went straight downhill. Oddly enough, Lowry today - lightweight though he is - is a little saner than most at the site.

Posted by: George LeS at August 05, 2018 10:47 AM (59GGI)

215 placed by the same rouge elements of the CIA ...

Led by their top agent Max Factor

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 10:48 AM (39g3+)

216 MSM keeps pushing the meme that the 2018 will be illegitimate because of Trump's intransigence.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 05, 2018 10:48 AM (1UZdv)

217 When considering whether to take your doctor's advice regarding lifestyle, keep in mind that most doctors "know" stuff because that's what they were taught, not because they "know-know" it.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 05, 2018 10:48 AM (mvenn)

218 "Jeff Flake" s/b "the Inexplicable Jeff Flake".
Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 10:47 AM (y87Qq)

Oh, it's splicable. He wanted to beat off to Nat Geo without turning pages.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 05, 2018 10:48 AM (G+ub2)

219 216 MSM keeps pushing the meme that the 2018 will be illegitimate because of Trump's intransigence.
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 05, 2018 10:48 AM (1UZdv)

*seething*

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2018 10:49 AM (BRvh1)

220 Oh, it's splicable. He wanted to beat off to Nat Geo without turning pages.
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 05, 2018 10:48 AM (G+ub2)

Well I'm not splicking it. I don't know where it's been.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 10:49 AM (y87Qq)

221 placed by the same rouge elements of the CIA ...

Led by their top agent Max Factor

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 10:48 AM (39g3+)

Max Factor was spying on Estee Lauder.

Posted by: redbanzai at August 05, 2018 10:49 AM (LQqiF)

222 This past week I read _Conspiracy of One_, by Jim Moore. It's a pretty good debunking of Kennedy assassination conspiracy theories. He's very thorough about the minutiae of Oswald's movements, the motorcade's movements, and a frame-by-frame discussion of Zapruder's home movie footage.

The biggest problem -- one shared by other debunkers in other subjects afflicted by crackpots -- is that he gets so wrapped up in debunking false theories that he wastes a lot of time on that rather than just describing what actually happened. Still, I'd give it an A-, if only because we need more of this sort of thing.

Posted by: Trimegistus at August 05, 2018 10:50 AM (QS+Vn)

223 221 placed by the same rouge elements of the CIA ...

Led by their top agent Max Factor

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 10:48 AM (39g3+)

Max Factor was spying on Estee Lauder.
Posted by: redbanzai at August 05, 2018 10:49 AM (LQqiF)

Deep-Cover Girl

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2018 10:50 AM (BRvh1)

224 113 >>NEB cannot possibly be as bad as NAB.

N.I.B. -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaRtXYSszsA

FTW

Posted by: garrett at August 05, 2018 09:54 AM (aCN2J)

I meant NAB. I can't type in the am.

Posted by: George LeS at August 05, 2018 10:50 AM (59GGI)

225 Aw nyah!
------
"Captain to the bridge!" A nervous voice blares from the cabin's intercom.

Billy Kristol Magnum pauses from polishing his prized samovar that will be used tonight for the festivities on the Lipo Deck to prod the answer button. "What is it Lieutenant?"

"Sir! Unidentified ships have warped out to surround us."

In the background is heard someone else. "Oh shit!"

Billy gets annoyed at the unprofessionalism being displayed, someone will need to be disciplined later he thinks. By him in his cabin. "I need details not pearl clutching!"

Voices babble over the intercom. From the now scared sounding lieutenant "raise the shields!" Then "Hard to port and roll this scow."

"Lieutenant!!" Even with inertial compensation and artificial gravity Billy can feel the ship's deck start to turn. Most alarming one of the antique and fragile teacups shifts on the table. This is intolerable. "Report!"

"Sir, we identified the ships and weapons."

"And?" Billy glowers at the intercom and thinks he will need to more than discipline the errant man. He might need to chastise the man. And that thought makes Billy smile.

There is an audible gulp. "Yes Sir. We count at least thirty Horde ships Sir. And well they are firing Val-u-Rite missiles at us. And several are closing in."

Billy feels an eyebrow arch in alarm. The Horde here? That could mean only one thing. They are after the chocolate fountain. And his strawberries. Yes most definitely after the strawberries.

"Try to keep them from boarding. I need to tend to internal defenses on the Lipo Deck."

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 05, 2018 10:50 AM (4XJDo)

226
The only information I have on this is: 'A Navy Medical Library, 1902'.

I see no rum.
I see no sodomy.
I see no lash.

Fake!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 05, 2018 10:50 AM (pNxlR)

227 Ah, Foxwood Hills. You're close to Chickasaw Point. Decent golf course there if you like hitting little white balls .

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 05, 2018 10:51 AM (R5lpX)

228 Seems like an excellent time for Yertle to remove him from the judiciary committee and replace him with someone non-useless.

How many committees is McCain still on? A guy with his seniority is probably chair of some of them. And he's either dead or on his back in a hospital bed. I get that respect between members of the senate is good but they take that way too far. Way, way, way too far.

It really is too long -- about 290,000 words, which puts it on the scale of the first Song of Ice and Fire book

A couple thoughts on this. It used to be more or less standard for a novel to be enormous, its just recently people started cutting them back. Often, a book that big can be trimmed into multiple volumes (the Lord of the Rings, for example, was meant to be one book but the publisher wisely balked). And usually there's stuff that can be edited and trimmed out, as painful and self-betraying as that might feel at the time. Editors are kind of expensive, but you can find good ones for a couple hundred bucks who'll help you with this.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 10:51 AM (39g3+)

229 "I need details not pearl clutching!"
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 05, 2018 10:50 AM (4XJDo)

Suspension of disbelief systems: failing.

11/10

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 10:53 AM (y87Qq)

230 121

In this case, Gordanius is a professional, he digs into mysteries for a modest living rather than being a noble who manages to get tangled up in mysteries.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 09:57 AM (39g3+)

Doesn't that amount to saying he's a Roman Holmes rather than a Roman Wimsey?

Posted by: George LeS at August 05, 2018 10:53 AM (59GGI)

231 Was looking through "The Last Psychoanalyst" by Stuart Schneiderman and ran across this paragraph.

"All human beings have an innate sense of shame. They are predisposed to keep their pants on and to hide their most intimate secrets. Those who do not respect this rule are often ostracized by their communities."

For some reason I thought of this blog.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 05, 2018 10:54 AM (mvenn)

232 Finally finished The Last of the Mohicans after having suffered through The Deerslayer. The last half of Mohicans was actually readable, unlike the abysmally boring and terribly written rest of these two books.

RIP, James Fenimore Cooper. I'm done with you.

Ugh.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 05, 2018 10:54 AM (fRQju)

233 I have thought about what books to slip into the box but giving someone a new idea is like giving them a pistol. You never know what they will do with it.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2018 09:42 AM (yQpMk)

Put a few back issues of gun magazines into the kiosk.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 05, 2018 10:55 AM (NV/E7)

234 Ah, Foxwood Hills. You're close to Chickasaw Point. Decent golf course there if you like hitting little white balls .
Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 05, 2018 10:51 AM (R5lpX)

Indeed, I enjoy chasing the little white ball.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 05, 2018 10:55 AM (G+ub2)

235 Heh. Crotch ferrets.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 05, 2018 10:55 AM (89T5c)

236 I went out and walked slowly up and down my street, but saw no sign of the cat.

Damn, it's hot out there. I actually burned my hand touching the door as I came back in. Good thing I don't have any yard work planned for today.

Posted by: rickl at August 05, 2018 10:55 AM (sdi6R)

237 Those who do not respect this rule are often ostracized by their communities."

For some reason I thought of this blog.
Posted by: Muldoon at August 05, 2018 10:54 AM (mvenn)

I can't see the word "ostracized" without the immediate mental image of an ostrich on an elliptical machine.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2018 10:56 AM (BRvh1)

238 Put a few back issues of gun magazines into the kiosk.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 05, 2018 10:55 AM (NV/E7)

*bites tongue clean off*

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 10:56 AM (y87Qq)

239 Did just pick up Greg Jarrett's book and can't wait until Bongino's comes out. Both of them have the Russia scam figured out, though Bongino's evidence is much more in depth than Jarrett's.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 05, 2018 10:57 AM (fRQju)

240 If Mr. O'Muse is still in the house, this might be a story worth watching for the chess thread.

Tunesia wanted to keep a 7 year old chess girl, Liel Levitan, out of a tournament because Israeli. The chess bodies leaned on them and she got her visa.

https://bit.ly/2ANFRsS

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 10:57 AM (fuK7c)

241 Anna Puma, I am giggling in an unseemly fashion at "Lipo Deck". I also approve of the concept of Horde ships. You may proceed ... *waves languid paw*

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at August 05, 2018 10:58 AM (L59/U)

242 Jeff Flake worked as a lobbyist for uranium interests in Africa before going to Congress. Google Jeff Flake and uranium and his trip becomes a lot more clear.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2018 10:58 AM (/tuJf)

243 Obama FBI Met With Foreign Spy and Discredited Dirty Dossier Author Christopher Steele 13 Times During 2016 Campaign, Paid Him 11 Times

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NTTAWWT

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, 3-D Printed Version at August 05, 2018 10:58 AM (+y/Ru)

244 66 Sooooo, if a Moron has self-published somewhere online, might a Moron pimp his work here?
Posted by: Sausage McMuffin at August 05, 2018 09:29 AM (tSFch)

Certainly. Or you could e-mail me your pimpage and I might put it in the content.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 05, 2018 10:59 AM (xlCXC)

245 109
Jeff Flake is a lame duck. Can the Judiciary Committee not simply
declare that seat vacant and plant some other buttock on it? One not
covered in downy feathers and a band-aid?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 05, 2018 09:53 AM (N1ZXu)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Then declare McStain's seat vacant and merge the state with either NM or Utah since they have no sitting senators.

Posted by: Three and One at August 05, 2018 10:59 AM (31Dqk)

246 Well boys and girls, back to the grindstone. Let me see if I can give ya'll something else to read. Later

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 05, 2018 10:59 AM (G+ub2)

247 Have a good day, Oldsailors poet.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 10:59 AM (y87Qq)

248 Hopefully you are better than me at golf, Poet. I carry a 35 handicap, which is a polite way of saying I get my money's worth, lol.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 05, 2018 10:59 AM (R5lpX)

249 Ostracize- (verb):

In a large blender, combine one medium ostrich, one cup of strawberries, two sliced bananas and 1/2 cup crushed ice. Blend on "high" for 2 minutes. Serve in a frosted glass.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 05, 2018 11:00 AM (mvenn)

250
Are You My Mother?
Red, Stop! Green, Go!
Go, Dog, Go!
One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish

I read to our grandkids.

That I could quote substantial portion of the last book from memory was, or so I am told, a first indication of my attractiveness to current Mrs. Krebs. Go figure.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 05, 2018 11:00 AM (pNxlR)

251 Jeff Flake is a lame duck. Can the Judiciary Committee not simply declare that seat vacant and plant some other buttock on it? One not covered in downy feathers and a band-aid?
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 05, 2018 09:53 AM (N1ZXu)

This. If absenting oneself from committee meetings means the committee can not proceed with hearings, then there would be no Obamacare, right?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 05, 2018 11:01 AM (NV/E7)

252 Certainly. Or you could e-mail me your pimpage and I might put it in the content.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 05, 2018 10:59 AM (xlCXC)

I want you to know something that you might already know. To have your book mentioned on this thread moves sales needles. And not a little.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 05, 2018 11:01 AM (G+ub2)

253 240 If Mr. O'Muse is still in the house, this might be a story worth watching for the chess thread.

Tunesia wanted to keep a 7 year old chess girl, Liel Levitan, out of a tournament because Israeli. The chess bodies leaned on them and she got her visa.

https://bit.ly/2ANFRsS
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 10:57 AM (fuK7c)

Screw all these open-latrine wastelands. I'd say we go full reverse-BDS on every one of these garbage countries that says "no joooz allowed", but the problem is they don't make or do anything of any consequence or value anyway, so there would be no real difference.

Screw 'em.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2018 11:01 AM (BRvh1)

254 The main page of AOS has been hanging up a lot in the past week or so. The guilty party is i.mgur.com which is an image posting utility. So at least one of the pics on the front page needs to go.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 05, 2018 11:01 AM (mpXpK)

255 Keep it bewteen the mayonnaise and the mustard Poet.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 05, 2018 11:02 AM (R5lpX)

256 The list of books on the revolution gives me pause, as it only lists McCullough's biography of John Adams. I've read two that are much better, those by Page Smith and John Ferling.
I've never understood the adulation accorded to McCullough's sketchy books.

Posted by: Brett at August 05, 2018 11:02 AM (fNciy)

257 Hopefully you are better than me at golf, Poet. I carry a 35 handicap, which is a polite way of saying I get my money's worth, lol.
Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 05, 2018 10:59 AM (R5lpX)

I shoot in the nineties. Back in the day I could shoot in the eighties. I just don't get out enough.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 05, 2018 11:03 AM (G+ub2)

258 JU-52 crash? Vas ist?

And on the ONT we were talking about Where Eagles Dare and Martin Caidin's JU-52 Iron Annie.

The one that crashed is ex-Swiss Air Force. registration HB-HOT. JU AIR's two other Tante Jus are grounded as they have suspended flight operations.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 05, 2018 11:03 AM (4XJDo)

259 252 Certainly. Or you could e-mail me your pimpage and I might put it in the content.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 05, 2018 10:59 AM (xlCXC)

That'd be great! Where should I email you, at the aceofspadeshq gmail address?

Posted by: Sausage McMuffin at August 05, 2018 11:05 AM (tSFch)

260 251 This. If absenting oneself from committee meetings
means the committee can not proceed with hearings, then there would be
no Obamacare, right?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 05, 2018 11:01 AM (NV/E7)

The judiciary committee can not prevent the main Senate floor for voting on the confirmation. McKonehead can hold a vote any time he desires regardless of what the committee does. The problem is that with Flake gone to Senate is tied. 49-49. At least one Democrat would have to vote to confirm with Flake missing. 7 voted for the last nominee so it can probably be done.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 05, 2018 11:05 AM (mpXpK)

261 When considering whether to take your doctor's advice regarding lifestyle, keep in mind that most doctors "know" stuff because that's what they were taught, not because they "know-know" it.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 05, 2018 10:48 AM

My wife now has the perfect Dr. -- one who actually was a nutritionist prior to becoming an MD. So the Dr told wife after last round of blood tests, 'This is where I'm supposed to tell you what to do or change. I have nothing.'

Wife is like me, predominate Paleo diet, low glycemic carbs only. How much does my wife weigh after decades of marriage? Actually a pound or two less then on our wedding day. 18 to 20% bodyfat. Neither of us takes any drugs except OTC headache stuff occasionally.

Nowadays, if you can afford it out of pocket, seeing a nutritionist for the latest knowledge beats the hell out of listening to a Dr who has been out of med school for a decade or more.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 05, 2018 11:05 AM (LOgQ4)

262 JU-52 crash? Vas ist?

Bild reports that the plane crashed nearly vertically. No alarm or mayday was sounded. No black box. Radar records are tricky in the mountains.

Pilots each had 30 years experience, including military. Passengers were Swiss and Austrian.

There will be an extensive investigation, but given the above I can't imagine what can be discovered.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 11:06 AM (fuK7c)

263 Eagerly awaiting the release of the third "Murderbot '' novella on Tuesday. I read that there is to be a full length novel in the future. Hooray!

Posted by: Tuna at August 05, 2018 11:06 AM (jm1YL)

264 April, prayers for the hubby and hugs for you.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 05, 2018 11:07 AM (CE6iV)

265 Oh, and Ju-Air swears that their maintenance is meticulous and that plane was in perfect condition.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 11:07 AM (fuK7c)

266 Why do Sleep Clinics have the most uncomfortable mattresses? The one time I went to one there was a crater right in the middle of the bed. I had to sleep in a U shape around the edge of it.

I guess most of their apnea patients are in the 300+ lb range but they could afford to replace the mattresses at what they charge.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 05, 2018 09:55 AM (yQpMk)

The whole notion of a Sleep Clinic is unscientific. The first principle of experimentation is to do as little as possible that might influence the nature of the behavior being studied. What guarantee is there that one's sleep patterns will be the same in a strange bed in a drafty clinic, as opposed to being in one's own bed? It would make more sense, and be cheaper, to simply provide the patient with the monitoring devices, and let them sleep at home, with a secure Internet connection transmitting data back to the clinic.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 05, 2018 11:07 AM (NV/E7)

267 256 I've never understood the adulation accorded to McCullough's sketchy books.

Posted by: Brett at August 05, 2018 11:02 AM (fNciy)

Me neither, I checked out his book on Jefferson from the library. It was a POS compared to three others I have read, including one that was critical of Jefferson.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 05, 2018 11:08 AM (mpXpK)

268 >>The judiciary committee can not prevent the main Senate floor for voting on the confirmation. McKonehead can hold a vote any time he desires regardless of what the committee does. The problem is that with Flake gone to Senate is tied. 49-49. At least one Democrat would have to vote to confirm with Flake missing. 7 voted for the last nominee so it can probably be done.

The vote for Kavanaugh was always planned for late September/early October.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2018 11:08 AM (/tuJf)

269 Uh oh Oregon Muse hit the wrong button again and engaged the cloaking device called Draft?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 05, 2018 11:09 AM (4XJDo)

270 umm

Posted by: weirdflunky at August 05, 2018 11:09 AM (SUoEu)

271 I envision an ostrich running up, kicking someone, then leaning down with those big googly eyes and saying "you been OSTRACIZED!!!!" then running off

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 11:09 AM (39g3+)

272 "I meant," said Ipslore bitterly, "what is there in this world that truly makes living worthwhile?"

Death thought about it.

CATS, he said eventually. CATS ARE NICE.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 10:23 AM (y87Qq)

Terry Pratchett wrote The Unadulterated Cat, which is a frustrated paen to real cats, the sort that won't do what you expect, do what you think they will hate, and need those extra lives.

My favorite story was about his cat that attacked the fly-strip swaying seductively in front of the window, and got tangled, panicked, ran towards the back fence and wound up being so glued up by the time it got half way down the garden the cat could only twitch a rear leg.
And then the panicked calls to the vet and searches for the fly strip packaging to make sure no toxins were in it to kill the flies, and the final verdict by the vet to soak the cat in warm water with a little dish soap to loosen the glue.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 05, 2018 11:09 AM (2K6fY)

273 Teddy Roosevelt quote:

To anger a conservative, lie to him.
To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 11:10 AM (gUCYC)

274 269 Uh oh Oregon Muse hit the wrong button again and engaged the cloaking device called Draft?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 05, 2018 11:09 AM (4XJDo)

I have no idea what I did. But everything came back when I hit the screen refresh. I blame Pixy.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 05, 2018 11:11 AM (xlCXC)

275 In a large blender, combine one medium ostrich, one cup of strawberries, two sliced bananas and 1/2 cup crushed ice. Blend on "high" for 2 minutes. Serve in a frosted glass.
Posted by: Muldoon at August 05, 2018 11:00 AM (mvenn)

Post workout snack?

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 05, 2018 11:11 AM (JFO2v)

276 Ju-Air sounds like something Arabs call El-Al.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 11:11 AM (39g3+)

277 In January 2016, Dr. John Lott contacted the CDC to alert them to a mistake in their numbers for 2014 on accidental gun deaths. The total was clearly a 100 larger than it actually was (the error arose because of mistakes in Tennessee' s data, and the mistake was so large it noticeably impacted the national number accidental deaths that year, raising the reported number from 486 to 586). Finally, in October 2016, the CDC acknowledged their error, but they never corrected the data on the website. This error is so large that it noticeably affects even five-year averages in accidental gun deaths. Unfortunately, since they never made the corrections, others are making mistakes when they use the data.

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The totally objective and scientific CDC has finally corrected the error.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, 3-D Printed Version at August 05, 2018 11:12 AM (+y/Ru)

278 217 ... "When considering whether to take your doctor's advice regarding lifestyle, keep in mind that most doctors "know" stuff because that's what they were taught, not because they "know-know" it."

Muldoon, That may be the most succinct and accurate description of medical knowledge I've ever seen, especially concerning 'lifestyle' matters. Thank you.

Posted by: JTB at August 05, 2018 11:12 AM (V+03K)

279 His marriage was brief but acrimonious -- she neglected to tell Arthur she had already had a hysterectomy, and he neglected to tell her he was gay.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 10:04 AM (gUCYC)

Good thing there were no children. That would have made the affair really messy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 05, 2018 11:13 AM (NV/E7)

280 I am taking the 'vertically' statement with a grain of salt the size of Salzburg right now. Too soon.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 05, 2018 11:13 AM (4XJDo)

281 Ju-Air sounds like something Arabs call El-Al.

Heh. "Ju" is for Junkers. They had three of them for sightseeing in the Alps. They now have two.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 11:13 AM (fuK7c)

282 I just checked my reading room: The Strangest Man - The hidden life of Paul Dirac

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 05, 2018 11:13 AM (RuIsu)

283 Speaking of golf, I'm still amazed that the author of The Lsgend of Bagger Vance and Gates of Fire is the same guy.

Steven Pressfield is one talented writer.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 05, 2018 11:14 AM (2DOZq)

284 And then the panicked calls to the vet and searches for the fly strip packaging to make sure no toxins were in it to kill the flies, and the final verdict by the vet to soak the cat in warm water with a little dish soap to loosen the glue.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 05, 2018 11:09 AM (2K6fY)

Sometimes, cats are not very good at cat.

(I'll have to add that one to the list, thanks for that. I hadn't heard of it)

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 11:14 AM (y87Qq)

285 I read Medicus by Ruth Downie, book one in an ancient Roman in Brittania series. It was ok, a little slow. Haven't decided if I will pursue the series.

I may try Roman Blood, mentioned upthread by Christopher.

Also read Deja Dead by Kathy Reichs, first in the Temperance Brennan series. Book Temperance is nothing like tv Temperance. Not sure if I will pursue thus either.

What I really need is to get hokd of the SPQR series - our library only has 2 of the mysteries in the series.

Oh lastly, got to read Brief Cases, a collection of Harry Dresden short stories. The last one is new. I enjoyed it.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 05, 2018 11:14 AM (CE6iV)

286 That'd be great! Where should I email you, at the aceofspadeshq gmail address?

Posted by: Sausage McMuffin at August 05, 2018 11:05 AM (tSFch)

This is why I post this paragraph at the end of every book thread:

So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh em

Looking forward to seeing your pimpage.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 05, 2018 11:15 AM (xlCXC)

287 I am taking the 'vertically' statement with a grain of salt the size of Salzburg right now. Too soon.

I am merely your humble neighborhood translator. That's what they're saying.

Vertical is also not inconsistent with the photo in this article:

https://bit.ly/2AIuL89

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 11:16 AM (fuK7c)

288
The list of books on the revolution gives me pause ...

Posted by: Brett at August 05, 2018 11:02 AM

In the review of the book "The Indian World of George Washington" by Colin G. Calloway is some subtle commentary on Washington's treatment of 'Native Americans' that is almost cute, in a way.

Washington, the land speculator, wanted western expansion, and the natives were in the way of that expansion. The reviewer concedes that it was European settlers who wanted the land, and Washington tried to 'manage' the expansion to 'bring the benefits of civilization' to the natives.

Sometimes, you just have to smile and with a Jedi hand wave, use the force.

Posted by: Bradlee M. Chadwick at August 05, 2018 11:16 AM (XeN7w)

289 286 That'd be great! Where should I email you, at the aceofspadeshq gmail address?

Posted by: Sausage McMuffin at August 05, 2018 11:05 AM (tSFch)

This is why I post this paragraph at the end of every book thread:

So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh em

Looking forward to seeing your pimpage.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 05, 2018 11:15 AM (xlCXC)

Er...thank you, and forgive my obliviousness.

Posted by: Sausage McMuffin at August 05, 2018 11:17 AM (tSFch)

290 Here is the article from the The Sun on the Ju-52 crash.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y94raf55

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 05, 2018 11:17 AM (4XJDo)

291 Ongoing space battle? Try the Death Blossom button.

Posted by: Griggs at August 05, 2018 10:30 AM (QLvwG)

Death Blossom sounds like something Dominic Flandry would run up a bar tab with.

"A pitcher of Death Blossom here, and try a little less Denebian Campari this time, if you would."

Posted by: Kindltot at August 05, 2018 11:19 AM (2K6fY)

292 Posted by: JTB at August 05, 2018 09:54 AM (V+03K)

I've been wanting to get into drawing and sketching.
I miss the feeling of it when I was a kid

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 05, 2018 11:19 AM (CE6iV)

293 Huh. "Ace of Spades" is also an anagram for "Pesca de sofá".

Couch fishing.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 11:19 AM (y87Qq)

294 In what may be unrelated news, a private plane with a family of four went down the same day in the same area.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 11:20 AM (fuK7c)

295 Steven Pressfield is one talented writer.

I have enjoyed everything I've read by him except Last of the Amazons which was so weak and poorly written I gave up a third of the way through. Almost like it wasn't the same guy.

Vertical is also not inconsistent with the photo in this article:

I agree, the plane doesn't look like it augered in from the picture, but physics can do strange things.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 11:20 AM (39g3+)

296 280 I am taking the 'vertically' statement with a grain of salt the size of Salzburg right now. Too soon.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 05, 2018 11:13 AM (4XJDo)

Last night somebody quoted a statement about "density altitude", but I don't know where that came from. I spent an hour or two last night watching videos about density altitude on YouTube. It's very important when flying in the mountains.

That would argue against a vertical crash, which I would think would have been caused by a major structural failure if true.

Posted by: rickl at August 05, 2018 11:22 AM (sdi6R)

297 Er...thank you, and forgive my obliviousness.
Posted by: Sausage McMuffin at August 05, 2018 11:17 AM (tSFch)

That's OK, nobody reads the content, anyway. They're here mainly to holler at each other in the comments. It's like a 3-hour pie-fight.

Oh wait, I was thinking of the ONT. Never mind...

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 05, 2018 11:23 AM (xlCXC)

298 "Each of these groups are attempting to create mass hysteria to achieve
their goals of removing President Trump from power and nullifying the
election results of our duly elected President." from Bongino's book.

Bill Ayers learned that blowing up buildings was not as effective as infiltrating academia, and all our institutions. The Ruskies figured that out long ago, and were deep in our government in the 30's, and probably ever since.

At this point the American enemies have gone to "war" with US by invading DC/NY, with coercion, kompromat, honeypots, academic theft -- and as Hillary showed us, just straight up pay to play bribery.

James Varney recommended "The Face of Battle" so I bought a used copy. It takes a more personal look at the effects of battle on the individual, but on the cover flap was a most pertinent line.

"above all it [the study of battle] is always a study of solidarity, and usually also of disintegration -- for it is towards the disintegration of human groups that battle is directed."
The current "war" might be most noticeable marked by the 60's "counter-revolution" of the 60's.
1. We saw a (possible) Vietnam win against commies turned into a loss, our S Vietnam allies delivered to the commies (by Democrats cutting minimal funding, despite Ford's pleas), and our troops spit on at airports.
2. The green movements were partly right about pollution standards and EPA stuff, but that movement also was co-opted by communists.

3. The music became radical leftist, subversive, and corrosive to the "children" that doped up and dropped out. If culture is upstream of politics, perhaps music is upstream of culture.

4. The racial healing of Republicans fighting for equal rights for blacks was co-opted by LBJ's special rights (I'll have them *** voting Democrat for 200 years). And identity politics was off and running.
5. And little recognized at the time, but lady killer Kennedy brought us "Immigration Reform" that imported the third world from "Latin" America, while (largely) closing down immigrants from Europe. Our American "group" was (via policy) being replaced.

Those five are off the cuff, but they represent the field of Battle in the new age war, where the disintegration of (our American) groups is accomplished from within our own government, with alleged grassroots movements being pushed by Soviet (or other) interests.

Starting in the 80's the other interests were joined with corporate globalists, who got easy money policy taken to the extreme, where we sit today. Bailouts for billionaires, foreign and domestic.

The field of Battle is now a PsyOp, with shadow banning, monetary policy, media narratives, and raw censorship the preferred weapons. But "disintegration of groups" (traditional America) is still the goal. "Solidarity" was popular in Poland, and we may need a lot more of that in America, not open borders "diversity".

Posted by: illiniwek at August 05, 2018 11:23 AM (bT8Z4)

299 293 Huh. "Ace of Spades" is also an anagram for "Pesca de sofá".
Couch fishing.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 11:19 AM (y87Qq)

Thank you for this, I need to incorporate it into the intro.

For some reason "couch fishers" sounds like a very apt name for morons.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 05, 2018 11:24 AM (xlCXC)

300 That would argue against a vertical crash, which I would think would have been caused by a major structural failure if true.
Posted by: rickl at August 05, 2018 11:22 AM (sdi6R)

Not necessarily; sometimes there's enough pitch to cause a load shift that wrecks the CoG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ColjRb3gHrk

(no survivors, if you'd prefer to skip it)

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 11:24 AM (y87Qq)

301 288 In the review of the book "The Indian World of
George Washington" by Colin G. Calloway is some subtle commentary on
Washington's treatment of 'Native Americans' that is almost cute, in a
way.

Washington, the land speculator, wanted western expansion, and the
natives were in the way of that expansion. The reviewer concedes that it
was European settlers who wanted the land, and Washington tried to
'manage' the expansion to 'bring the benefits of civilization' to the
natives.

Sometimes, you just have to smile and with a Jedi hand wave, use the force.

Posted by: Bradlee M. Chadwick at August 05, 2018 11:16 AM (XeN7w)

George was no friend to the Indians. The Iroquois used to call him "town killer".

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 05, 2018 11:25 AM (mpXpK)

302 Ostracize- (verb):

In a large blender, combine one medium ostrich, one cup of
strawberries, two sliced bananas and 1/2 cup crushed ice. Blend on
"high" for 2 minutes. Serve in a frosted glass.

Not just any blender.

https://www.bing.com/images/
search?q=osterizerFORM=HDRSC2

Posted by: [REDACTED] at August 05, 2018 11:27 AM (FhXTo)

303 Not necessarily; sometimes there's enough pitch to cause a load shift that wrecks the CoG.

Unlikely that 17 passengers load-shifted that much.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 11:28 AM (fuK7c)

304 Thank you for this, I need to incorporate it into the intro.

For some reason "Couch fishers" sounds like a very apt name for morons.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 05, 2018 11:24 AM (xlCXC)

OregonMuse, Fisher of Couch Fishers.

You may want to consult a Moron who actually speaks the language rather than just took it in high school. This doesn't seem like the thread to botch the conjugation in.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 11:28 AM (y87Qq)

305 Bild reports that the plane crashed nearly vertically.

-
It self identified as a Ju-47.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, 3-D Printed Version at August 05, 2018 11:29 AM (+y/Ru)

306 Had to defeat NoScript just to see more images. Yeah that does look vertical. But look at the wing, where the ailerons are. Look at how far away one of the wheels is.

Or another possible answer - the plane was in a shallow descent and hit hard on a boulder wrenching the whole fuselage aft of the wing to flip over.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 05, 2018 11:29 AM (4XJDo)

307 George was no friend to the Indians. The Iroquois used to call him "town killer".

Well to be fair, he was a fighter in the French and Indian war, so he was perfectly nice to allied natives, and brutal to enemies. I doubt he had any particular animosity toward Indians as a people, nor any particular affection.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 11:29 AM (39g3+)

308 The problem is that at least this book has a lot of sex in it, gratuitously so.

Saylor started out writing gay pr0n.

Posted by: FYI at August 05, 2018 11:30 AM (/gVTN)

309 290 Here is the article from the The Sun on the Ju-52 crash.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y94raf55
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 05, 2018 11:17 AM (4XJDo)

One of the photo captions said "The small plane crashed..."

A three-engined airliner was a pretty big plane in the 1930s.

That reminds me of the time about 20 years ago I saw a B-17 fly low over my house as it was performing at a nearby air show. I was struck by how small it looked for a four-engined plane.

Posted by: rickl at August 05, 2018 11:30 AM (sdi6R)

310 Grrrrrr!

Bild reports that the plane crashed nearly vertically.

-
It self identified as a Ju-87.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, 3-D Printed Version at August 05, 2018 11:30 AM (+y/Ru)

311 As Bandersnatch said there was another crash the same day. We might be looking at a freak weather event that links both crashes.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 05, 2018 11:32 AM (4XJDo)

312 It self identified as a Ju-87.

*snort*

I mean, that's just wrong. You should be ashamed.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 11:32 AM (fuK7c)

313 You may want to consult a Moron who actually speaks the language rather than just took it in high school. This doesn't seem like the thread to botch the conjugation in.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 11:28 AM (y87Qq)

Are you kidding? This item is too good to check. I'm running with it.

(just like CNN does with its stories...)

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 05, 2018 11:33 AM (xlCXC)

314 Saylor started out writing gay pr0n.

That actually explains a lot.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 11:33 AM (39g3+)

315 George was no friend to the Indians.

--

Ya, I get that. Western Europe invaded the American continents (north and south) and built something.

If only we could do like the native populations in Africa are doing, drive the white colonizers off the land and off the continent so we could return to the peaceful and tranquil days of Hiawatha, and Montezuma.

Posted by: Bradlee M. Chadwick at August 05, 2018 11:33 AM (XeN7w)

316 The NHS must offer fertility treatments to transgender patients awaiting transitioning treatment or risk breaking anti-discrimination legislation, the UK's human rights watchdog has said.

-
Britain. A little bit crazier than us. A little bit.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, 3-D Printed Version at August 05, 2018 11:34 AM (+y/Ru)

317 Unlikely that 17 passengers load-shifted that much.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 11:28 AM (fuK7c)

Oh, that's true. Point taken.

Still, the 747 in the video was operating normally with full thrust from four engines and no structural failure up until it pancaked near-vertically, which I guess was what I was getting at. It could happen in a stall easily enough.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 11:35 AM (y87Qq)

318 I've never understood the adulation accorded to McCullough's sketchy books.

Posted by: Brett at August 05, 2018 11:02 AM (fNciy)

Easy to read and digest by the general reader. Plus he was given a big push by PBS almost from the beginning with his books almost all being made into documentaries--often with him being interviewed or even doing the narration. He has a great mellifluous voice and as you read his books, you hear him almost reading to you....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 05, 2018 11:35 AM (y8Foj)

319 Late to the thread, but thanks for the promo!

Posted by: right wing yankee at August 05, 2018 11:35 AM (zlzYb)

320
Me neither, I checked out his book on Jefferson
from the library. It was a POS compared to three others I have read,
including one that was critical of Jefferson.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 05, 2018 11:08 AM (mpXpK)

Vic, or anyone I suppose, have you read Kevin Gutzman's Jefferson, Revolutionary: A Radical's Struggle to Remake America?

I have heard the man speak and he is quite impressive in an interview, I wondered if anyone could tell me how he writes.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 05, 2018 11:35 AM (2K6fY)

321 That reminds me of the time about 20 years ago I saw a B-17 fly low over my house as it was performing at a nearby air show. I was struck by how small it looked for a four-engined plane.

Yeah that was my response to visiting the air museum in Oregon. The Spruce Goose was vast, almost unimaginably so. But those WW2 bombers, it was surprising how little they were. The P-38 was the biggest surprise, it was half the size I thought it would be. Still my favorite plane.

I wouldn't fit in one of those gun turrets, even folded up like a puzzle.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 11:36 AM (39g3+)

322 i don't know if anyone mentioned this -

archaeologists announced the discovery of the remains of a huge roman library in cologne, germany. were the foundations alone uncovered they might have thought it just a large building, but segments of walls were intact with niches that could only hold scrolls. it was a public library, which apparently was not uncommon in the forums of roman colonial towns.

which brings to mind destroyed libraries - alexandria, of course, and the remains of the house of papyrii - unrestored charred scrolls. one of the most tragic was the fire that consumed charles rennie mackintosh's library at the art school of glascow - one of the most beautiful interiors ever created. a faulty space heater led to the fire (i think) and it's being reconstructed to the original plans.

Posted by: mjc at August 05, 2018 11:38 AM (Pg+x7)

323 292 ... "I've been wanting to get into drawing and sketching.
I miss the feeling of it when I was a kid"

votermom, Go for it. I have absolutely no clear talent for drawing but I find the activity fascinating. Fortunately, sketching with pen and ink or just pencil can be very inexpensive.

A few suggestions:

Any book on drawing for beginners will have the same basic info. Your library is sure to have good examples.

There are a huge number of helpful videos on Youtube that cover any aspect of drawing. The speeded up versions annoy me because I can't follow what they do well enough. But there are plenty of real-time videos if you have 30 minutes to a couple of hours to watch. (It helps to be retired.)

Read Winston Churchill's "Painting As A Pastime". It provides the best, and most amusing, account of why drawing and painting are such valuable hobbies. It's just a long essay so doesn't take long to read.

Posted by: JTB at August 05, 2018 11:39 AM (V+03K)

324 Votermom, thanks for the prayers. Needed and appreciated.
JTB and votermom, same here regarding drawing. I made a lot of art growing up, but pretty much stopped when I had children. I miss it, too. I think my husband could benefit from learning to draw, also. Thinking about signing up at the local university branch for some beginning art classes.

Posted by: April at August 05, 2018 11:40 AM (e8PP1)

325 320 Vic, or anyone I suppose, have you read Kevin Gutzman's Jefferson, Revolutionary: A Radical's Struggle to Remake America?

I have heard the man speak and he is quite impressive in an interview, I wondered if anyone could tell me how he writes.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 05, 2018 11:35 AM (2K6fY)

No haven't read that one. Our library didn't have it and I read everything they had.

I see amazon has it for $10. I'll add it to my list.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 05, 2018 11:40 AM (mpXpK)

326 Here is the article from the The Sun on the Ju-52 crash.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y94raf55
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 05, 2018 11:17 AM (4XJDo)

Fuselage is upside down, but mostly intact.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 05, 2018 11:40 AM (NV/E7)

327 I am a reasonable risk-taker. A Ju-87? Real Mountains? Do I get to throw Richard Burton out the back door? I dunno.

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 05, 2018 11:41 AM (RuIsu)

328 From the ONT

New FBI Docs Reveal ... Strzok Sat On Weiner Probe
@zerohedge

Also the FBI paid Steele.

But the Sunday shows are all about how Trump has blood on his hands for all the attacks and murders of journalists.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 05, 2018 11:42 AM (1UZdv)

329 ... the hazing things.ouse of the papyrii was a private villa in pompeii. some day the remnants of the scrolls that remain might be reconstructed with advanced technologies of restoration. they can do am

Posted by: mjc at August 05, 2018 11:42 AM (Pg+x7)

330 For some reason "couch fishers" sounds like a very apt name for morons.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 05, 2018 11:24 AM (xlCXC)

That is because we are fishing for spare change under the cushions.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 05, 2018 11:43 AM (2K6fY)

331 I am a reasonable risk-taker. A Ju-87? Real Mountains? Do I get to throw Richard Burton out the back door? I dunno.

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 05, 2018 11:41 AM (RuIsu)

I did not throw him out the back door. The dastardly traitor chose to step out and go get a pack of smokes.

Posted by: Richard Burton at August 05, 2018 11:43 AM (QLvwG)

332 The Chormans did not put dashes in their aircraft designations.

So Bf 109, Ju 88 etc.

I only point this out because I didn't realize it myself until a few years back.

Posted by: Sunday morning pedant at August 05, 2018 11:43 AM (/gVTN)

333 ...one of the most tragic was the fire that consumed charles rennie mackintosh's library at the art school of glascow - one of the most beautiful interiors ever created. a faulty space heater led to the fire (i think) and it's being reconstructed to the original plans.

Posted by: mjc at August 05, 2018 11:38 AM (Pg+x7)

It burned again in June 2018 as renovations were nearing completion

Posted by: cool breeze at August 05, 2018 11:44 AM (UGKMd)

334 Speaking of cats and airplanes, I had forgotten about this video, which won the internet when it was posted three years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_8mdH20qTQ

Posted by: rickl at August 05, 2018 11:44 AM (sdi6R)

335 Where Eagles Dare was on TCM late last night. I fell asleep in the middle, sadly

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 05, 2018 11:44 AM (1UZdv)

336 ... the house of the papyrii... they can do amazing things.

Posted by: mjc at August 05, 2018 11:45 AM (Pg+x7)

337 New FBI Docs Reveal ... Strzok Sat On Weiner Probe

Phrasing?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 11:45 AM (39g3+)

338 From the ONT

New FBI Docs Reveal ... Strzok Sat On Weiner Probe
@zerohedge

Also the FBI paid Steele.

But the Sunday shows are all about how Trump has blood on his hands for all the attacks and murders of journalists.
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 05, 2018 11:42 AM (1UZdv)

Lot's of fun can be had with the names Strzok Steele Weiner.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 05, 2018 11:46 AM (y8Foj)

339 Here is an older foto of HB-HOT

http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/galleryphoto_en.php?photoid=2576

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 05, 2018 11:46 AM (4XJDo)

340 Never heard of the Glasgow School of Art but it is (was, and shall be again) lovely in a dark, contemplative way:

https://tinyurl.com/y8qmpf38

There's also a good article on the restoration over at the Daily Mail, but being the DM it takes forever to load what with all the videos, ads, and sidebars of "Reality star Penny Picklethwaite's bum is looking pert and posh in this thong!"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 11:47 AM (gUCYC)

341 333 cool breeze:

burned again?! i hadn't heard that. just tragic.

Posted by: mjc at August 05, 2018 11:47 AM (Pg+x7)

342 Rick, is that the stowaway kitty? What must have been going through its tiny mind?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 11:48 AM (gUCYC)

343 ''Easy to read and digest by the general reader. Plus he was given a big push by PBS almost from the beginning with his books almost all being made into documentaries--often with him being interviewed or even doing the narration. He has a great mellifluous voice and as you read his books, you hear him almost reading to you....''

Agreed. I had the audio version of "1776". Was most enjoyable. I worked late hours back then and listened in the car coming home from work. Thus, I associate the book with very dark quiet nights.

Posted by: Tuna at August 05, 2018 11:48 AM (jm1YL)

344
There's also a good article on the restoration over at the Daily Mail, but being the DM it takes forever to load what with all the videos, ads, and sidebars of "Reality star Penny Picklethwaite's bum is looking pert and posh in this thong!"
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 11:47 AM (gUCYC)

Yes, those thumbnail pics on the right of assorted bums and boobs are more distracting than the ads.....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 05, 2018 11:49 AM (y8Foj)

345 Declare John McCain dead, seat new Az overnight, is an option. But, better to have the fight closer to election day.

Posted by: Jean at August 05, 2018 11:50 AM (Cnt92)

346 Yes, those thumbnail pics on the right of assorted bums and boobs are more distracting than the ads.....

And 99% people I have never heard of or care about. "Missy Mishtrimmer's baby bump!" Who??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2018 11:50 AM (39g3+)

347 A book thread broke out in one of the Friday evening threads and His Despicable Furriness says he's actually reading the Hound of the Baskervilles. Posted by: Bandersnatch

The Hound did it!

Posted by: Bob Bulger-Mueller, Ace Defective at August 05, 2018 11:50 AM (BNk/G)

348 328 From the ONT
New FBI Docs Reveal ... Strzok Sat On Weiner Probe

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 05, 2018 11:42 AM (1UZdv)

Ahem. Phrasing.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 05, 2018 11:51 AM (xlCXC)

349 Speaking of cats and airplanes, I had forgotten about this video, which won the internet when it was posted three years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_8mdH20qTQ
Posted by: rickl at August 05, 2018 11:44 AM (sdi6R)

Oh man, I haven't seen that one since back then. Thanks for re-posting it. I like how every cat comes equipped out of the box* with "I'm not sure what's going on here, but I don't approve at all".

* not that a cat would ever come out of a box, but you know.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 11:51 AM (y87Qq)

350 When Weiner was a rising star he was a frequent guest on the Imus radio show. He had a fun personality and would even make his own dick jokes.

Maybe he had a fixation with his dick, from insults that went back to grade school. "Hey, An Toe Nee, you're mother's a weiner!"

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 05, 2018 11:51 AM (1UZdv)

351 There's a reason they call it the Daily Fe-Mail over there....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2018 11:51 AM (BRvh1)

352
Agreed. I had the audio version of "1776". Was most enjoyable. I worked late hours back then and listened in the car coming home from work. Thus, I associate the book with very dark quiet nights.
Posted by: Tuna at August 05, 2018 11:48 AM (jm1YL)

That's the only McCullough book I ever read and it was enjoyable enough.
I attempted Foote's Civil War Trilogy and -thanks to Burn's Civil War series, I feel like old Shelby is at my elbow reading it to me.....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 05, 2018 11:51 AM (y8Foj)

353 ''Yes, those thumbnail pics on the right of assorted bums and boobs are more distracting than the ads.....''

LOL. Just wish they'd get off their anti Trump wagon.

Posted by: Tuna at August 05, 2018 11:51 AM (jm1YL)

354 The names the Horde comes up with; a veritable Rogue's Gallery of Pounces, Poofs, Pimps, Posers, and Prima Donnas.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 05, 2018 11:52 AM (4XJDo)

355 324 ... April and votermon, I forgot to mention that The Great Courses has several classes about drawing and painting. I find them helpful. Might be worth a look. Again, check your library. Ours does carry some of their courses.

At my level of talent (i.e., none to speak of) I have the satisfaction of knowing I can't get any worse. :-)

I have noticed that my ability to see shapes and colors has improved. That counts for a lot for me.

Posted by: JTB at August 05, 2018 11:54 AM (V+03K)

356 LOL. Just wish they'd get off their anti Trump wagon.
Posted by: Tuna at August 05, 2018 11:51 AM (jm1YL)

DM anti-Trump? Not near so much as the U.S. media. And they often devote a lot of space to pics of Melania.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 05, 2018 11:54 AM (NV/E7)

357 "reality star penny picklethwaite's bum is looking pert and posh..."

LOL

Posted by: mjc at August 05, 2018 11:55 AM (Pg+x7)

358 LOL. Just wish they'd get off their anti Trump wagon.
Posted by: Tuna at August 05, 2018 11:51 AM (jm1YL)

But, unlike with the American media, it's a "hate" tempered with fascination and a tacit acknowledgement that he IS getting things done.

The comments in the Trump stories run about 80% in favor of the Don....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 05, 2018 11:56 AM (y8Foj)

359 The mistake with reading the Hound is to presume its a Sherlock Holmes story. Its not,

Still more so than A Study in Scarlet or The Valley of Fear which are just anti-Mormon and anti-union screeds with Holmes pasted into the first and last chapters.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at August 05, 2018 11:56 AM (4jqDR)

360 349
I like how every cat comes equipped out of the box* with "I'm not sure what's going on here, but I don't approve at all".
Posted by: hogmartin at August 05, 2018 11:51 AM (y87Qq)

I dunno, that cat almost looked like a dog hanging its head out a car window. Just chillin' there in the wing.

Posted by: rickl at August 05, 2018 11:56 AM (sdi6R)

361 The names the Horde comes up with; a veritable Rogue's Gallery of Pounces, Poofs, Pimps, Posers, and Prima Donnas.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 05, 2018 11:52 AM

xxxxxxxxx

Ok. Who let the Ponce in?

Posted by: Diogenes at August 05, 2018 11:57 AM (0tfLf)

362 here's also a good article on the restoration over at the Daily Mail, but being the DM it takes forever to load what with all the videos, ads, and sidebars of "Reality star Penny Picklethwaite's bum is looking pert and posh in this thong!"
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 11:47 AM (gUCYC)

A while back, they gave that treatment to, get this, Amy Schumer, saying "Amy Schumer flaunts her curves in a sexy pink bikini" or some such malarkey, but she looked about as sexy as a sack of potatoes.

And that's when I learned you can't always trust the MSM...

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 05, 2018 11:57 AM (xlCXC)

363 There's also a good article on the restoration over
at the Daily Mail,

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 11:47 AM (gUCYC)

Looks like they're going to need a bigger restoration fund. From 20 days after the article you linked:

https://tinyurl.com/yae3uj34

Posted by: Bert G at August 05, 2018 11:58 AM (yzxic)

364 Am reading Lone Star, it's a history of Texas, and have decided the best life ever was that of a Comanche warrior in 1750.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at August 05, 2018 11:58 AM (+fPHo)

365
A while back, they gave that treatment to, get this, Amy Schumer, saying "Amy Schumer flaunts her curves in a sexy pink bikini" or some such malarkey, but she looked about as sexy as a sack of potatoes.

And that's when I learned you can't always trust the MSM...
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 05, 2018 11:57 AM (xlCXC)

To be fair, though---Amy looks relatively good compared to Lena Dunham....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 05, 2018 11:59 AM (y8Foj)

366 Just read Mark Greaney's Ballistic (one of the Grey Man books). It was OK, but not as good as the previous ones. It opens great- with a well-plotted hunt in the Amazon, but rather goes downhill after that (but not into awful territory).

Posted by: Charlotte at August 05, 2018 12:00 PM (mt65F)

367 The names the Horde comes up with; a veritable Rogue's Gallery of Pounces, Poofs, Pimps, Posers, and Prima Donnas.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 05, 2018 11:52 AM
xxxxxxxxx
Ok. Who let the Ponce in?
Posted by: Diogenes at August 05, 2018 11:57 AM (0tfLf)

Don't forget hoes, heifers, heehaws and hula hoops.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 05, 2018 12:00 PM (EoRCO)

368 Kitteh vid is hilarious. I had not seen it before.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 12:01 PM (fuK7c)

369 ''archaeologists announced the discovery of the remains of a huge roman library in cologne, germany. were the foundations alone uncovered they might have thought it just a large building, but segments of walls were intact with niches that could only hold scrolls. it was a public library, which apparently was not uncommon in the forums of roman colonial towns. ''

My sister lived in Germany for a number of years. She said it is right next door to her favorite department store. Also said you can't dig a hole in Cologne without finding Roman stuff.

Posted by: Tuna at August 05, 2018 12:02 PM (jm1YL)

370 To be fair, though---Amy looks relatively good compared to Lena Dunham....
Posted by: JoeF. at August 05, 2018 11:59 AM (y8Foj)

So does Joseph Merrick.

Posted by: Sausage McMuffin at August 05, 2018 12:03 PM (tSFch)

371 EM NOODED FOADDY-FI!!

Posted by: Mad Maxine's wighat at August 05, 2018 12:04 PM (uOXZ+)

372 ''So does Joseph Merrick.''

Bwahahaha...

Posted by: Tuna at August 05, 2018 12:05 PM (jm1YL)

373 Also said you can't dig a hole in Cologne without finding Roman stuff.

That's where it gets its name from. Collonia Something Aggripensis Something*. It was a Roman colony.

*(I will look it up, but looking things up first is cheating)

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 12:05 PM (fuK7c)

374 To be fair, though---Amy looks relatively good compared to Lena Dunham....
Posted by: JoeF. at August 05, 2018 11:59 AM (y8Foj)

So does Joseph Merrick.
Posted by: Sausage McMuffin at August 05, 2018 12:03 PM (tSFch)

True. Merrick was not an animal. He was a human being....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 05, 2018 12:05 PM (y8Foj)

375 nood FYI

Posted by: geezer der mensch at August 05, 2018 12:05 PM (Ng5NT)

376 Colonia Claudia Ara Agrippinensium

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 12:06 PM (fuK7c)

377 But those WW2 bombers, it was surprising how little they were. The P-38 was the biggest surprise, it was half the size I thought it would be.

I recalll being struck at how narrow a P-51 is the first time I saw one at an air museum viewed from dead-on 6-o'clock.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at August 05, 2018 12:07 PM (4jqDR)

378 Love the Holmes stories, have read them all twice now. Mean to read Doyle's other books at some point. As for other writers, the worst sin they can commit is if the characters aren't recognizable as Holmes and Watson.

Do not understand the prices on political books. $15 is too high for any kindle book.

Posted by: waelse1 at August 05, 2018 12:09 PM (YjVWX)

379 378 Do not understand the prices on political books. $15 is too high for any kindle book.

Posted by: waelse1 at August 05, 2018 12:09 PM (YjVWX)

I refuse to buy any Kindle book which is more than $10 unless it is a compendium of more than one book.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 05, 2018 12:13 PM (mpXpK)

380 In the navy In the Navy we don't read no wordy books thingies,we R 2 Buzzy doing dope and each other,,sorry to disappoint you YMCA types in Capri Bell BOTTOMS.shore leave is cummin up and we wear nothin @ all on the cliffs watching submarine races.....
my money's on # 69.

Posted by: saf at August 05, 2018 12:16 PM (5IHGB)

381 They keep calling Manafort "former Trump Campaign chairman" but it would be more accurate to call him "former Ford Delegate-Hunt Coordinator" because that's what he was when these 20 year-old financial issues happened. But we all know what the Crooked Game is here.

In fact, Mueller decined to pursue these charges years ago. If they are so important as to rate a Special Counsel now, why did Mueller dismiss them when he was FBI chief?

Keeping charges in your back pocket for decades in case they're needed later seems positively--what's the word?--Soviet.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 05, 2018 12:16 PM (BNk/G)

382 I refuse to buy any Kindle book which is more than $10 unless it is a compendium of more than one book.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 05, 2018 12:13 PM (mpXpK)

I refuse to buy any Kindle book. Period. They can "edit" those things after the fact. Sometimes they can outright disappear.
I'll buy the hardcover if I REALLY need it, or I'll wait til it's remaindered or in paperback.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 05, 2018 12:17 PM (y8Foj)

383 With all the talk about cats and airplanes, I forgot to mention the book I've been reading. Oh, well. Maybe I will have finished it by next week.

Posted by: rickl at August 05, 2018 12:18 PM (sdi6R)

384 Just finished Sinclair Lewis: "It Can't Happen Here" - novel about a fictional fascist takeover of America in the 1930's. Some of the parallels you can draw between the book and what almost happened (If Hilary won) are pretty frightening: Particularly since the resistance in the book had Canada to escape to as a base and support from the UK.. I don't think we could expect either country to help take the US back anymore...

JustDave in GR

Posted by: JustDave in GR at August 05, 2018 12:21 PM (KBiU/)

385 P-51 is small for aerodynamic reasons. Smaller the frontal area the less drag. Which means get more performance from the same engine. Which is why the USAAC/USAAF loved inline water-cooled engines, even with the radiator, presents a cleaner fuselage to the air. The RAF and Luftwaffe both believed this also, hence Spitfires and Hurricanes with the Merlin engine and Bf/Me109s with DB601/DB605 engines.

Then along comes Chance-Vought with the F4U and Pratt and Whitney's R-2800 to produce a fighter capable of 400mph in 1940. So the USAAC orders the P-47 with the same engine. Both aircraft with the frontal areas of barns but also fast lethal brutes. Think of both planes as the F-4 Phantom II of WWII.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 05, 2018 12:22 PM (4XJDo)

386 Currently reading the Barbara Hambly James Asher series mentioned in a previous book thread. I downloaded all of them from Hoopla and have been binge reading for the past 5 days. Some are better than others, but overall enjoyable reading.

Posted by: Rana at August 05, 2018 12:23 PM (sy2Wl)

387 Hmmm....

"Arriving in New York, Clarke checked in at the Chelsea Hotel. He always stayed at this shabby red-brick structure on West Twenty-Third Street, where he mingled with other regular visitors such as Arthur Miller, William S. Burroughs, Allen Ginsberg, and Gore Vidal. True, the elevators reeked of pot, and the lobby occasionally resembled a freak show. But nobody paid much attention to alternate lifestyles..."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 12:24 PM (gUCYC)

388 But the P-51 is pretty.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 12:25 PM (fuK7c)

389 But nobody paid much attention to alternate lifestyles...

What a cruel way to talk about Chelsea Clinton or Barfley Manning... Does Sarah Jeong hang out there?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 05, 2018 12:26 PM (4XJDo)

390 he mingled with other regular visitors such as Arthur Miller, William S. Burroughs, Allen Ginsberg, and Gore Vidal.
------------

Joni Mitchell?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 05, 2018 12:26 PM (CDGwz)

391 Amazing how many major cities in Europe, North Africa and the Middle East were either founded by the Romans or grew to become word class cities under their leadership. And the Romans have been "gone" for about 1,500 years.
What did Nazi Germany leave behind besides misery and death? Or Soviet Russia? Oh yeah, big goofy statues of communist douchbags and technological "miracles" like amphibious cars and "Jet Trains" currently rusting and rotting away in Siberia....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 05, 2018 12:27 PM (y8Foj)

392 "Stayin' up for days, in the Chelsea Hotel, writing Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands for you".

Posted by: Bob Dylan at August 05, 2018 12:27 PM (fuK7c)

393 Think of both planes as the F-4 Phantom II of WWII.

Funny you would say that. In my mind, I've always connected the Jug and the F-4 as being the "Big American Hammer" approach to design.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at August 05, 2018 12:27 PM (4jqDR)

394 More Clarke: "Commuting -- even if only for 3 stations on the IRT -- was an exotic novelty, after my hum-drum existence among elephants, coral reefs, monsoons, and sunken treasure ships. The strange cries, cheerful smiling faces, and unfailingly courteous manners of the Manhattanites as they went about their affairs were a continued source of fascination."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 12:28 PM (gUCYC)

395 "Arriving in New York, Clarke checked in at the Chelsea Hotel. He always stayed at this shabby red-brick structure on West Twenty-Third Street, where he mingled with other regular visitors such as Arthur Miller, William S. Burroughs, Allen Ginsberg, and Gore Vidal. True, the elevators reeked of pot, and the lobby occasionally resembled a freak show. But nobody paid much attention to alternate lifestyles..."
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 12:24 PM (gUCYC)

I'm sure they all had a gay old time....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 05, 2018 12:28 PM (y8Foj)

396 There is one sure fire way to make a P-51 look ugly when photographing one.

Get out near a wingtip. Stand on a platform that raises your eye level above the wing. Aim your camera down towards the cockpit. And in the viewfinder you will suddenly discover that the Mustang has a pot belly.

The trailing edge of the wing will block from view the forward portion of the radiator.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 05, 2018 12:29 PM (4XJDo)

397 Still, that's some top tier gay there.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 12:29 PM (gUCYC)

398 "Stayin' up for days, in the Chelsea Hotel, writing Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands for you".
Posted by: Bob Dylan at August 05, 2018 12:27 PM (fuK7c)

Still not impressed, Bob. I want a divorce.

Posted by: Sara , Sara, Sweet virgin lover..... at August 05, 2018 12:30 PM (y8Foj)

399 Eris, to really go over the top as in cherry on a sundae would be to populate the Chelsea Hotel with Warhol images.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 05, 2018 12:32 PM (4XJDo)

400 There is one sure fire way to make a P-51 look ugly when photographing one.

Now why would anyone want to do that?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 12:32 PM (fuK7c)

401 by the Romans or grew to become word class cities under their leadership.

Meh, we were doing ok without them.

Posted by: Carthage, Population: 0 at August 05, 2018 12:32 PM (++ggZ)

402 Bandersnatch, ran across such a photo once. Think it was in an article on photographing planes. It was an example of what not to do. Just a reminder that you must carefully frame your photo-shoots.

I wish people with the 500+ images on their phones would learn a few rules of photography. And how to organize things. Along with the obvious thing that no, the photo kiosk at Wal-Mart can't access your Google Cloud account.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 05, 2018 12:36 PM (4XJDo)

403 What did Nazi Germany leave behind besides misery and death?

Highways is all I can think of. And the VW. IIRC, the highways thru East Germany to Berlin were still using the original concrete before the Wall came down (it was not the best ride). Might have been a tall tale, though, to belittle the East Germans.

Posted by: t-bird at August 05, 2018 12:39 PM (gfQAD)

404 217
When considering whether to take your doctor's advice regarding
lifestyle, keep in mind that most doctors "know" stuff because that's
what they were taught, not because they "know-know" it.

Posted by: Muldoon

Gasp, Medical Doctors aren't infallible?!?

Posted by: scrood at August 05, 2018 12:39 PM (NlCk7)

405 Now why would anyone want to do that?
Posted by: Bandersnatch
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*quietly, innocently whistles*

Posted by: Spitfire at August 05, 2018 12:40 PM (xSo9G)

406 *quietly, innocently whistles*

Posted by: Spitfire

LOL.

You're pretty too, dear, and so is your friend the P-40.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 05, 2018 12:42 PM (fuK7c)

407 Highways is all I can think of. And the VW. IIRC, the highways thru East Germany to Berlin were still using the original concrete before the Wall came down (it was not the best ride). Might have been a tall tale, though, to belittle the East Germans.
Posted by: t-bird at August 05, 2018 12:39 PM (gfQAD)

But wasn't the Autobahn laid over--at least partially-- ancient Roman roads?

Posted by: Sara , Sara, Sweet virgin lover..... at August 05, 2018 12:49 PM (y8Foj)

408 The best of the Holmes novels is The Sign of Four. It verges into pulp-novel territory with the fiendish Andaman pygmy assassin -- but how can you not love that?

Posted by: Trimegistus at August 05, 2018 12:57 PM (QS+Vn)

409 Look at the Typhoon or Tempest and those big ugly intakes.
I believe Tempest was the fastest in service (prop) fighter at the end of the war.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at August 05, 2018 12:59 PM (CuFV9)

410 while back, they gave that treatment to, get this, Amy Schumer, saying "Amy Schumer flaunts her curves in a sexy pink bikini" or some such malarkey, but she looked about as sexy as a sack of potatoes.

This is so late in the thread that I feel comfortable with being a dick.
Can bikini be sexy? It's just fabric. The person inside the bikini is, or is not sexy.

Similarly you'll sometimes see references to a "suspicious" car driving away from the scene of the crime. How can a car be suspicious? Are it's headlights too closely set together?

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at August 05, 2018 01:07 PM (eAMlh)

411 I refuse to buy any Kindle book which is more than $10 unless it is a compendium of more than one book.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 05, 2018 12:13 PM (mpXpK)

I've been reading the compendium Light Into Darkness: A Noblebright Fantasy Boxed Set, which has book one of many series including Sabrina Chase's The Last Mage Guardian, it was like $2.

Posted by: waelse1 at August 05, 2018 01:12 PM (YjVWX)

412 The 1964 NY World's Fair ride "Futurama":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-5aK0H05jk

As one comment noted, "You promised me Mars colonies, instead I got FaceBook."

The NYWF was an influence on Kubrick (see how I bring it back to the book thread?), especially "To the Moon and Beyond", and some of the special effects guys found their way to his film. Doug Trumbull was 23!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 01:13 PM (gUCYC)

413 This is so late in the thread that I feel comfortable with being a dick.
Can bikini be sexy? It's just fabric. The person inside the bikini is, or is not sexy.

Similarly you'll sometimes see references to a "suspicious" car driving away from the scene of the crime. How can a car be suspicious? Are it's headlights too closely set together?
Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at August 05, 2018 01:07 PM (eAMlh)

See what you mean, but a bikini does wonders for some women. Have you ever seen an okay-looking young woman become an absolute revelation when she dons a bikini? The bikini caused her to look "sexy."

Now in your other example, the car becomes "suspicious" if you can't see the person driving the car away from the scene of a crime.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 05, 2018 01:14 PM (y8Foj)

414 This is so late in the thread that I feel comfortable with being a dick.
Can bikini be sexy? It's just fabric. The person inside the bikini is, or is not sexy.

Similarly you'll sometimes see references to a "suspicious" car driving away from the scene of the crime. How can a car be suspicious? Are it's headlights too closely set together?
Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at August 05, 2018 01:07 PM (eAMlh)

See what you mean, but a bikini does wonders for some women. Have you ever seen an okay-looking young woman become an absolute revelation when she dons a bikini? The bikini caused her to look "sexy."

Now in your other example, the car becomes "suspicious" if you can't see the person driving the car away from the scene of a crime.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 05, 2018 01:14 PM (y8Foj)

I'm mostly being flippant but no fabric is capable of making Amy Schumer sexy.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at August 05, 2018 01:18 PM (eAMlh)

415 I'm mostly being flippant but no fabric is capable of making Amy Schumer sexy.

Granted, but some fabric could make her sexier. Like, say, a 12 by 16 foot canvas tarp.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at August 05, 2018 01:23 PM (4jqDR)

416 >>Granted, but some fabric could make her sexier. Like, say, a 12 by 16 foot canvas tarp.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg

WooHoo

Posted by: Achmed's Goat at August 05, 2018 01:25 PM (2cuLk)

417 1) I first brought this up in a different thread last week. Has anybody here read Bob Woodward's book "Veil," about CIA operations in the 1980s, particularly in Nicaragua? Is it any good, even if from a MFM lefty? Opinions appreciated.

2) I'm about to dive into "The Stainless Steel Rat," the first in a set of novels by Harry Harrison featuring that character. I first heard of SSR in college in the early '80s. Checked the copyright year of the first book and was floored -- 1961, the year I was born! I'll see how it holds up.

Posted by: Weak Geek at August 05, 2018 01:37 PM (TPaJb)

418 Iacocca . that brings back memories of the K car and my HS econ teacher being a full socialist country club idiot (he was born with a golf club in his had and his dad was the driver's ed teacher). I was just assuming that 'The Art of a Deal' was a Sun Tzu modernize for the business world. Is it worth a read?
Posted by: auscolpyr at August 05, 2018 10:08 AM

Sorry it took so long to answer. I just got back from church and lunch.

I think the autobiographical parts are interesting, but you have to wade through a lot of business deals to find a line or two of philosophy. I found it interesting that Trump admits to being aggressive for its own sake until military school helped him channel it better, and about the roots of him not caring about credentials.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at August 05, 2018 01:50 PM (/+bwe)

419 Now in your other example, the car becomes "suspicious" if you can't see the person driving the car away from the scene of a crime.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 05, 2018 01:14 PM (y8Foj)

I'm mostly being flippant but no fabric is capable of making Amy Schumer sexy.
Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at August 05, 2018 01:18 PM (eAMlh)

Yes, but I was speaking in general--NOT about Schumer.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 05, 2018 01:51 PM (y8Foj)

420 Anyone driving a K-car should be regarded as suspicious.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 05, 2018 02:09 PM (xSo9G)

421 6
That looks like an initial issue of GWTW.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party
==
Inside it says "copyright renewed 1964".

Posted by: Corona at August 05, 2018 02:50 PM (MceDl)

422 I read "Kingdom of Glass" and although it started out a bit slow-ish for me, it got more interesting and by the end I was disappointed there wasn't book two immediately! I really started to like the characters and they had distinct personalities, which a lot of authors fail at, but RWY did really well at it. Also the politics and intricacies became more clear drew you in. Looking forward to book two now! =)

Posted by: atomicplaygirl at August 05, 2018 03:49 PM (Gim9y)

423 And here we have Canadian filmmaker Colin Low's short film "Universe", studied obsessively by Kubrick.

Does the narrator, Douglas Rain, sound familiar, Dave?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48gIN4hGOdI

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 05, 2018 03:55 PM (gUCYC)

424 Last!

Seizing the Enigma. 4/5. Fun read. More comprehensive than the Alan Turing: Enigma book. Diagrams and tables in the back of the book for those wanting to play at cryptography.

Posted by: 13times at August 05, 2018 06:19 PM (K3B2k)

425 Ha! Last!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 05, 2018 07:07 PM (xlCXC)

426 Nope

Posted by: weirdflunky at August 05, 2018 08:37 PM (AgJkM)

427 "Anyone driving a K-car should be regarded as suspicious"
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And a damn good mechanic.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 05, 2018 09:16 PM (o1fzk)

428 Come, Watson! The eldritch horror is afoot!

Posted by: John C Lyerly at August 06, 2018 07:57 AM (qqAhQ)

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