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On Clinton and classification, FBI/DOJ officials "found her claim that she did not understand the significance of the '(C)' marking strained credulity." Inconceivable that she did not understand. https://t.co/GzZnMmRTW3
— Stephen Hayes (@stephenfhayes) June 14, 2018
Yup, and the “gross negligence” legal analysis — as applied to these facts — is extraordinary. She violated the law. Period. https://t.co/kv0szBQbop
— David French (@DavidAFrench) June 14, 2018
The defense that Strzok didn’t actually stop Trump isn’t all that relevant to the problem of intent. There is more than enough reason to terminate him and place every single one of his actions under the highest degree of scrutiny. Transparency is absolutely vital.
— David French (@DavidAFrench) June 14, 2018
No one should be the least bit surprised that an FBI agent would want to bring to justice someone who is openly collaborating with Russian intelligence in order to capture the American presidency. There could hardly be a more important mission for the FBI.
— Evan McMullin (@Evan_McMullin) June 14, 2018
How civil servants see themselves / how everybody else sees them pic.twitter.com/HeMVZKGjWA
— David Burge (@iowahawkblog) March 17, 2018
They've called for Pruitt to step down, published two posts about soccer, pushed the NYAG suit against Trump's foundation, and tweeted about movies.But nothing about the IG report. So I assume this sentiment from last year still stands:
Obviously strongly prefer normal democratic and constitutional politics. But if it comes to it, prefer the deep state to the Trump state.
— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) February 14, 2017
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: sobaka at June 14, 2018 07:44 PM (H5knJ)
Posted by: Funnier North Korean at June 14, 2018 07:46 PM (MIVQy)
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Posted by: DXO at June 14, 2018 07:47 PM (nzKWW)
Posted by: Captain Ned at June 14, 2018 07:47 PM (XIfux)
Don't bet your bippy on it, fool.
The witch speaks.
Posted by: Your friendly neighborhood witch at June 14, 2018 07:47 PM (HLTe8)
Posted by: lin-duh at June 14, 2018 07:48 PM (kufk0)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 14, 2018 07:48 PM (9uM86)
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at June 14, 2018 07:48 PM (DxWUs)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 14, 2018 07:49 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at June 14, 2018 07:49 PM (nBr1j)
Posted by: DXO a
Bill hasn't inserted his nautical joke in a long time.
Right Paolo?
Posted by: Bill Kristol's wife at June 14, 2018 07:49 PM (kYLYM)
I'm seriously starting to think Eggmcmullin is a foreign infiltrator from some shithole country assigned to create chaos in the USA.
He speaks like a fucking idiot with no understanding of reality.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at June 14, 2018 07:49 PM (9yPBp)
These things gotta marinate/ferment for a while. This report is devastating. With more to come.
Posted by: RI Red at June 14, 2018 07:49 PM (I1V3o)
Posted by: blaster at June 14, 2018 07:49 PM (jHrzU)
I mean... someone has got to be paying him, right? Nobody is that stubbornly idiotic in the face of all reality. Its like he is deliberately trying to be stupid
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 14, 2018 07:49 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Evan McNumbskull at June 14, 2018 07:49 PM (RKQ/v)
Posted by: zombie walter white at June 14, 2018 07:50 PM (Evws/)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 14, 2018 07:50 PM (cHVSG)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 14, 2018 07:50 PM (l9m7l)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 14, 2018 07:50 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: blaster at June 14, 2018 07:51 PM (jHrzU)
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 14, 2018 07:51 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 14, 2018 07:51 PM (r+sAi)
No one should be the least bit surprised a devout muslim would want to bring justice to the USA by flying airplanes into the heart of Manhattan.
Posted by: Evan McMullin super cia spy, boy genius, brain of german shepherd at June 14, 2018 07:52 PM (9yPBp)
Ahoy, captain. May I come aboard your wife?
Posted by: Ace of Spades at 07:50 PM
Is her name Eileen?
Posted by: Dexy at June 14, 2018 07:52 PM (fdTrp)
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at June 14, 2018 07:49 PM (nBr1j)
Yeah.
He's not that good of a person.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 14, 2018 07:52 PM (BRvh1)
Posted by: Bosk at June 14, 2018 07:52 PM (fjMEv)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 14, 2018 07:52 PM (9yPBp)
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at June 14, 2018 07:53 PM (2sCft)
371
The IG report and its summary remind me of that intel report and its
summary about Iranian efforts for nukes back during GWB's Presidency.
That report had many indications of Iranian shenanigans but the summary said, "No, no, it's all cool, bro!"
It was the summary that was seized upon.
Posted by: davidt at June 14, 2018 07:46 PM (TKQ/l)
Posted by: davidt at June 14, 2018 07:53 PM (TKQ/l)
Posted by: lin-duh at June 14, 2018 07:53 PM (kufk0)
(I haven't bothered to check, so maybe this is more than just getting the tsk-tsk tweets out of the way before going back to "Heh, hicks eat tater tots! giggle, snort)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2018 07:53 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: Bob at IRS at June 14, 2018 07:53 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Marcus T at June 14, 2018 07:53 PM (8Ku6c)
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at June 14, 2018 07:53 PM (KxbBq)
Posted by: Adriane the Technology Critic ... at June 14, 2018 07:54 PM (AoK0a)
If you are have to wear a tie in your job, fucking wear the tie.
None of this unbuttoned top button shit. If your neck is too fat for comfort, BUY A BIGGER NECK SHIRT.
Sheesh.
Posted by: JAS at June 14, 2018 07:54 PM (3HNOQ)
Posted by: staffers pretending John McCain is still alive at June 14, 2018 07:54 PM (kYLYM)
No one should be the least but surprised the German people wanted justice from the Jews who were in league with the Devil.
Posted by: Evan McMullin super cia spy, boy genius, brain of german shepherd at June 14, 2018 07:54 PM (9yPBp)
Posted by: Capt Kristol in his motorized canoe at June 14, 2018 07:54 PM (yhf6w)
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 07:54 PM (QDnY+)
It also reveals that Horowitz is saying both that Strzok's motivation affected his investigation, while saying some place else that there is no proof that it affected his investigation.
His hunger to get after Trump was enough to cause him to delay looking into the Weiner laptop--thus delaying Comey's announcement--but apparently affected his behavior in no other way.
Because it's only worth condemnation when it affects Dems.
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2018 07:54 PM (vDqXW)
I can understand "volcel". You've made a choice. You live by that choice. It's become part of your identity. Your public persona. It's a label that actually tells you something about the person.
But "incel"? That just means you're a loser, basically.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 14, 2018 07:54 PM (BRvh1)
Posted by: Ashey Judd's Puffy Scamper, nee MrCaniac at June 14, 2018 07:54 PM (fdTrp)
Posted by: blaster at June 14, 2018 07:51 PM (jHrzU)
++++
Didn't McMuffin have some kind of sketchy CIA or other intelligence agency type background? Too lazy to do a search on it.
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at June 14, 2018 07:54 PM (2sCft)
Anyways. Watching NR and Standard try to get Pruitt fired is wholly illuminating. Let me help them out with a Guide to Employment in the Trump Administration.
1) Speak against the Big Man, and your days are numbered.
2) Underperform, and you will be permitted to either improve or resign.
3) Deliver often and in quantity, and you are safe.
These can be summarized by the Primary Rule, which overruled all others. Donald Trump does not care about what his enemies say. No matter how bad it looks, if you fail to deliver he will fire you and not look back.
Posted by: trev006 at June 14, 2018 07:54 PM (paRwT)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 14, 2018 07:55 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 14, 2018 07:55 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General and his Electric Accordian Band! at June 14, 2018 07:55 PM (0QYMt)
Posted by: blaster at June 14, 2018 07:55 PM (jHrzU)
Posted by: Capt Kristol in his motorized canoe at June 14, 2018 07:54 PM (yhf6w)
I read that as if he were sitting in a tub of bubble-bath playing with little rubber duckies and toy soldiers and plastic boats.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 14, 2018 07:55 PM (BRvh1)
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 14, 2018 07:55 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 07:55 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 14, 2018 07:54 PM (BRvh1)
++++
Pretty much. You'd like to be getting laid, but it ain't gonna happen.
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at June 14, 2018 07:55 PM (2sCft)
There is a very real Deep State and they are the enemy of every American citizen.
Billy Kristol needs an ass whuppin.
Then some castor oil.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 14, 2018 07:55 PM (EoRCO)
summary about Iranian efforts for nukes back during GWB's Presidency.
The IG report and its summary remind me of that Comey speech laying out all the criminal hillary stuff with her emails and then saying "nah bro, no reasonable prosecutor...."
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 14, 2018 07:56 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2018 07:56 PM (LsBY9)
Posted by: Eromero at June 14, 2018 07:56 PM (zLDYs)
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 14, 2018 07:56 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 14, 2018 07:56 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: lin-duh at June 14, 2018 07:57 PM (kufk0)
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 07:57 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 14, 2018 07:57 PM (fiGNd)
He's the guy who's "suspicious", and he's the guy who hasn't been charged with a squattie pottie. And yet Muffinhead is saying they *knew* something they haven't indicted *anybody* on when they *began* the investigation.
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2018 07:57 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: Jollyroger at June 14, 2018 07:57 PM (7Z5/k)
Posted by: The Russians are Coming at June 14, 2018 07:57 PM (FTlwv)
Posted by: DR.WTF? at June 14, 2018 07:57 PM (T71PA)
Is he a real person, or is he just an elaborate hoax?
Has anyone seen this guy IRL, or even giving a speech or an interview?
Seriously starting to wonder if it's a composite candidate/social media group project.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2018 07:57 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: Dan Martin at June 14, 2018 07:57 PM (3HNOQ)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 14, 2018 07:54 PM (BRvh1)
Yes. Yes, it does.
Posted by: Ersatz at June 14, 2018 07:58 PM (44PTs)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 14, 2018 07:58 PM (kYLYM)
course, to many of our youngerns, a war hero is someone who fought the good fight against Trump.
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at June 14, 2018 07:58 PM (KxbBq)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 14, 2018 07:55 PM (BRvh1)
............
My gawd, how did you know?
Posted by: Capt Kristol in his motorized canoe at June 14, 2018 07:58 PM (yhf6w)
Dear Jesus, please get eggmcmuffin to endorse mitt romney. Amen.
Posted by: Evan McMullin super cia spy, boy genius, brain of german shepherd at June 14, 2018 07:58 PM (9yPBp)
Posted by: Marcus T at June 14, 2018 07:58 PM (8Ku6c)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General and his Electric Accordian Band! at June 14, 2018 07:55 PM (0QYMt)
God knows many good men went down on that one. And some ladies.
Posted by: Jollyroger at June 14, 2018 07:59 PM (7Z5/k)
Posted by: Dick Martin at June 14, 2018 07:59 PM (3HNOQ)
Come aboard, my wife's been expecting you
Love, life's sweetest reward
Let it flow, it flows back to you
Cuck Boat soon will be making another run
The Cuck Boat promises something for everyone
Set a course for cucking
Your bull on a new romance
Love won't hurt anyone
It's an open vagina on a friendly shore
Yes love...
It's love!
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 14, 2018 07:59 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 14, 2018 07:59 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Dick Martin at June 14, 2018 07:59 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: f'd at June 14, 2018 08:00 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 14, 2018 08:00 PM (cHVSG)
Posted by: IanDeal at June 14, 2018 08:00 PM (5mrLG)
Posted by: JAS at June 14, 2018 08:00 PM (3HNOQ)
FBI: we can find no evidence of Russian collusion
Meuller probe: No collusion is in evidence
McMullan: TOTALLY RUSSIAN COLLUSION! ASK ME ABOUT THE BERMUDA TRIANGLE AND HOODIA!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 14, 2018 08:00 PM (39g3+)
I can understand "volcel". You've made a choice. You live by that choice. It's become part of your identity. Your public persona. It's a label that actually tells you something about the person.
But "incel"? That just means you're a loser, basically.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 14, 2018 07:54 PM (BRvh1)
Well, that's it. The term is used as an insult, nothing more.
Posted by: rickl at June 14, 2018 08:00 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Simplemind at June 14, 2018 08:01 PM (ZuGkg)
Posted by: How Evan McMullin Sees Himself at June 14, 2018 08:01 PM (O5Q3r)
McMuffin? The man was born to cuck. And clean the orlop deck.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General and his Electric Accordian Band! at June 14, 2018 08:01 PM (0QYMt)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 14, 2018 08:01 PM (GNCPT)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2018 08:01 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 14, 2018 08:01 PM (rnXGe)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 14, 2018 08:01 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: JAS at June 14, 2018 08:00 PM (3HNOQ)
He just got some product in his eyes. He'll be fine.
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 14, 2018 08:01 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 14, 2018 07:56 PM (fA1SL)
Hahaha...works for me. What was that whip thing the Czar would use on his Billy Kristols?
Bring one of those along....
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 14, 2018 08:01 PM (EoRCO)
Not only no justice, hillary actually colluded with russia, and then used the govt to try and pin it on Trump.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 14, 2018 08:01 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: f'd at June 14, 2018 08:01 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at June 14, 2018 08:01 PM (KxbBq)
**
Another look at Pense and Mattis on a vodka-fuelled tank and arty rampage?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 14, 2018 08:02 PM (fA1SL)
"Well, he's awfully damn young to have more hardware showing than fabric. Whoever he is, he's gotta be famous." And then just assumed it was Audie Murphy.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 14, 2018 08:02 PM (BRvh1)
Posted by: The Love Boat at June 14, 2018 08:02 PM (HgMAr)
Does that mean Huber will prosecute her for lying?
Posted by: blaster at June 14, 2018 08:02 PM (jHrzU)
If nothing else, it was great to see the scales fall from the eyes of Trey Goudy. He is pissed.
Posted by: JAS at June 14, 2018 08:00 PM (3HNOQ)
A passing tantrum. He'll calm down and sheepishly return to the fold.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2018 08:02 PM (LsBY9)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General and his Electric Accordian Band! at June 14, 2018 08:01 PM (0QYMt)
Cats like us ... Baby We Were Born to Cuck !!!
Posted by: Scogg Springstein at June 14, 2018 08:02 PM (fiGNd)
Read his book. Its astounding both what he did, and the way he depicts it as being just trying to stay alive and help his friends, nothing heroic or unusual, usually done while terrified or stunned
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 14, 2018 08:03 PM (39g3+)
Too bad we don't have debtor's prison.
Posted by: Ever at June 14, 2018 08:03 PM (QPeHQ)
Bring one of those along....
Posted by: Hairyback Guy
I did not know that the Czars kept court eunuchs.
#TheMoreYouKnow
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 14, 2018 08:03 PM (kYLYM)
Who, ol' Vise Head?
Trey Gowdy's momma squeezed her legs together tight when little baby Trey was trying to escape her womb. Ended up with that narrow head.
Posted by: Evan McMullin super cia spy, boy genius, brain of german shepherd at June 14, 2018 08:03 PM (9yPBp)
Posted by: tu3031 at June 14, 2018 08:03 PM (O5Q3r)
Once you think a minute, his life is really sad right now. He has no job, no organization, piles of debts, and even the never trumpers are getting sick of him. (because he keeps hitting them up for money)
Think about it - his opinion, in his tweet here, means just as much as if Joe the downtown Wino on the curb was able to type tweets.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 14, 2018 08:03 PM (V2Yro)
By basically giving the "team" the benefit of the doubt on investigative judgement calls, and finding no evidence of bias affecting the course of the investigation, the IG has itself suffered a collapse of judgement, and the report is a disaster.
Yes yes yes lots of dirt in the body of the report. Maybe even dirt that will lead to prosecutions. If so, indefensible and inexplicable that IG conclusions would give a clean bill of health on the central question - which they most definitely did.
Director Wray is not just the wrong man for the job, he's a disaster. He's been silent (a huge mistake already), but now that he's opened his mouth, worst fears are more than confirmed. Pair his comments today with some from Rosenstein the last few months, and it's hard to resist the conclusion that these two are arrogant, clueless people who really would have been perfect for the last, corrupt, Third World administration.
Trump and Sessions' judgement in keeping these two in their jobs is looking very very questionable.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 08:04 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Tentotwo at June 14, 2018 08:04 PM (yhf6w)
Yet somehow the conclusion by the IG that it wasn't in any way partisan motivated? What, precisely does he think was the motivation? Random caprice? Fear of retaliation?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 14, 2018 08:04 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: zombie at June 14, 2018 08:04 PM (c+2jX)
Great shooters. Great guys.
They tried to put Audie in West Point. He just didn't have the pre-requisites.
Posted by: JAS at June 14, 2018 08:04 PM (3HNOQ)
Posted by: blaster at June 14, 2018 08:04 PM (jHrzU)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 14, 2018 08:04 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at June 14, 2018 08:05 PM (nBr1j)
mcmullin's motivation is....
his leftist ideology.
He's the worst phony conservative since the Bushes.
Posted by: Evan McMullin super cia spy, boy genius, brain of german shepherd at June 14, 2018 08:05 PM (9yPBp)
But you're allowed to get real, real mad about Strzok delaying Comey's subpoena for the Weiner laptop and demand a do-over of the election.
Yet in both cases, the answer is sort of: mistakes were made. But people like Tapper are saying these mistakes are more significant than those mistakes.
Tapper reaffirms the two-tiered system of justice and concern. They want to slap Comey in irons and say HE'S THE REASON they don't have their queen, even though if Strzok delayed Comey, it wasn't Comey's decision to delay, mistakes were made.
It all depends what mistake gored who's ox.
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2018 08:05 PM (vDqXW)
Let's calm down. Prosecuting anyone named here will shake the foundations of our democracy. So let's move on and get back to the all-important coup d'etat against Trump.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2018 08:05 PM (LsBY9)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 14, 2018 08:01 PM (39g3+)
I guess that's what i mean by "volcel". Voluntary Celibate.
The fact that there needs to be a word for that is kind of insane, really.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 14, 2018 08:05 PM (BRvh1)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 14, 2018 08:05 PM (r+sAi)
He wasn't officer material, not really even non-com even though he ended up there, mostly by surviving. His book is really sad, its mostly about all the other guys who didn't make it all around him.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 14, 2018 08:05 PM (39g3+)
Yet somehow the conclusion by the IG that it wasn't in any way partisan motivated? What, precisely does he think was the motivation? Random caprice? Fear of retaliation?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 14, 2018 08:04 PM (39g3+)
Kuru and Cocaine, but mostly Kuru.
Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 14, 2018 08:05 PM (TA9CI)
Posted by: IanDeal at June 14, 2018 08:00 PM (5mrLG)
Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe.
-- Frederick Douglass
Posted by: DR.WTF? at June 14, 2018 08:06 PM (T71PA)
Posted by: wth at June 14, 2018 08:06 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 14, 2018 08:06 PM (kYLYM)
Posted by: goon at June 14, 2018 08:06 PM (PEcU2)
Posted by: zombie at June 14, 2018 08:04 PM (c+2jX)
++++
It did rise up, only to trip over it's own untied shoelaces. That why retards should only wear shoes with velcro laces.
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at June 14, 2018 08:06 PM (2sCft)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 14, 2018 08:07 PM (cHVSG)
Posted by: JAS at June 14, 2018 08:07 PM (3HNOQ)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2018 08:07 PM (LsBY9)
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at June 14, 2018 08:08 PM (nBr1j)
Posted by: goon at June 14, 2018 08:08 PM (PEcU2)
1) Don't believe anyone who claims Horowitz didn't find bias. He very carefully says that he found no "documentary" evidence that bias produced "specific investigatory decisions." That's different
Eight tweet thread...
https://twitter.com/KimStrassel/status/
1007390904674471936
Posted by: andycanuck at June 14, 2018 08:08 PM (Evws/)
Trump and Sessions' judgement in keeping these two in their jobs is looking very very questionable.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 08:04 PM (QDnY+)
---
I think you have to make that duo a trio, based on Sessions recent unconditional dismissal of criticisms of Rosenstein.
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2018 08:08 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: Chris Wray, Commissar of State Security at June 14, 2018 08:08 PM (QDnY+)
The whole problem was Sessions recusing himself.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 14, 2018 08:08 PM (4ErVI)
You know what was missing from Singapore?
Some really good wacky "body double" conspiracy theories.
Posted by: Evan McMullin super cia spy, boy genius, brain of german shepherd at June 14, 2018 08:09 PM (9yPBp)
Posted by: Regular joe at June 14, 2018 08:09 PM (rwVzJ)
Posted by: zombie at June 14, 2018 08:09 PM (c+2jX)
How about Petreaus?
Recall that his being seduced and bending the rules re: classified docs paved the way for John Brennan to replace him as head of the CIA. And we all know how that worked out: he seems to have led the way on the US IC-UK IC collaboration to get Trump.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2018 08:10 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2018 08:10 PM (LsBY9)
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at June 14, 2018 08:10 PM (KxbBq)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 14, 2018 08:10 PM (ndTbZ)
Bill Kristol is the Deep State version of the Stay Puft Marshmallow man, except shorter and softer and fatter.
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at June 14, 2018 08:08 PM (nBr1j)
And some sticky substance from the corner of his mouth.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 14, 2018 08:10 PM (UsCnO)
Yet somehow the conclusion by the IG that it wasn't in any way partisan motivated? What, precisely does he think was the motivation? Random caprice? Fear of retaliation?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 14, 2018 08:04 PM (39g3+)
Sundance at CT has explained that the summary and conclusion is NOT written by the IG. It is written by adminstrators in the FBI and DOJ. CT readers were warned NOT to comment on the report until they read the entire report, paying particular attention to the body of the report,which is the information gathered by the IG.
IOW, you can pretty much blow off the summary, as it is written by politically motivated individuals. The actual events, dates, and statements contained in the report are what Sessions and the atty he has working on this will be looking at.
Kind of like a movie review. The actual movie script and then the reviewer puts their own bias and preferences into their conclusion as to whether the movie sucked or not.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 14, 2018 08:10 PM (NLeU8)
Posted by: JAS at June 14, 2018 08:11 PM (3HNOQ)
Posted by: notsothoreau at June 14, 2018 08:11 PM (JKNZq)
I just saw Catherine Herridge say basically what I was saying in the last thread.
What he said was he couldn't find any documentary evidence of political bias not that there wasn't any. It's a pretty important distinction.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2018 08:11 PM (/tuJf)
Apparently the only way the dip shit IG would be able to infer political bias would be for one of the conspirators to explicitly state, "I would love to conduct a fair and impartial investigation but my political bypasses preclude that!!
Apparently someone stating, explicitly, "...we won't let Trump win." and after the election, "...im physically sick from the election results.." among other revelation.
This is all a multi-act production of The Aristocrats.
Posted by: Kreplach at June 14, 2018 08:11 PM (UfMVm)
https://bridalbeautyassociatesblog.wordpress.com/ 2012/06/29/featured-wedding-february-anne-and-matt/
Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 14, 2018 08:11 PM (TA9CI)
Now, that same industry has popped up, but with a different focus, and we should probably call them "Washingtonologists", but that doesn't really roll off the tongue...
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 14, 2018 08:11 PM (BRvh1)
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at June 14, 2018 08:12 PM (2sCft)
Posted by: Puddleglum at June 14, 2018 08:12 PM (20X6f)
I don't think they're ignorant. certainly not Rosenstein, considering he ways in Obama's DoJ, right there with the people who did this.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2018 08:12 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: goon at June 14, 2018 08:12 PM (PEcU2)
Except you can't, because this is what gets widely disseminated in the media and becomes "fact".
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 14, 2018 08:12 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: blaster at June 14, 2018 08:12 PM (jHrzU)
Posted by: rickl at June 14, 2018 08:12 PM (sdi6R)
Cuck Hall of Shame?
Let's recognize the "pioneers" of the Republican Cuck movement!
Jim Jeffords, cuck from Vermont.
Lincoln Chafee, cuck from Rhode Island.
Just a couple of original cucks.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at June 14, 2018 08:13 PM (9yPBp)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2018 08:13 PM (LsBY9)
Trump and Sessions' judgement in keeping these two in their jobs is looking very very questionable.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 08:04 PM (QDnY+)
Thank you for your kind words earlier. You can take this or leave it, but Wray, Nielsen, Rosenstein, and formerly Koskinen have something in common. All of them represent agencies so corrupt that they should be disbanded, but such action may not be politically possible even if it was immediately desirable. The rank and file are politically unreliable, but either useful
In such cases, leaving figurehead in power avoids political conflict. Don't worry, I agree that they should be sacked and their agencies abolished.
Pruitt is special because he has power to revamp regulations and gut the EPA. The left knows this and hates it passionately. Which is why, by contrast, he -must- be kept on.
Posted by: trev006 at June 14, 2018 08:13 PM (X2App)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at June 14, 2018 08:13 PM (9yPBp)
Posted by: Ohio Retards at June 14, 2018 08:13 PM (9dzlp)
Posted by: trev006 at June 14, 2018 08:13 PM (X2App)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 14, 2018 08:14 PM (BRvh1)
Sessions recusing himself and putting Rosenstein in charge immediately
put Trump in a very bad position because firing Rosenpenis would cause a
lot of problems.
The whole problem was Sessions recusing himself.
I am now convinced this was part of the original plan.
I don't know if/when they got to Sessions, but standing on that side of the fence means you are absolutely standing in bullshit, Jeff.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 14, 2018 08:14 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Puddleglum at June 14, 2018 08:12 PM (20X6f)
Dress him in top hat and tails and he'll start singing "Puttin' On The Ritz."
Posted by: DR.WTF? at June 14, 2018 08:14 PM (T71PA)
1) Don't believe anyone who claims Horowitz didn't find bias. He very carefully says that he found no "documentary" evidence that bias produced "specific investigatory decisions." That's different
And there you go. I got the women on my side.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2018 08:14 PM (/tuJf)
"I drink alone, with nobody else..."
Posted by: JAS at June 14, 2018 08:14 PM (3HNOQ)
Except you can't, because this is what gets widely disseminated in the media and becomes "fact".
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
Most reporters have never read anything longer than a menu.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2018 08:15 PM (LsBY9)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 14, 2018 08:15 PM (cHVSG)
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It also contains stunning examples of incompetence. Comey explains that he wasn't aware the Weiner laptop was big deal because he didn't know Weiner was married to Abedin? Then they sit on it a month, either cuz it fell through cracks (wow) or were more obsessed w/Trump
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It also demonstrates the lack of Comey's administrative skills putting the same team on two different investigations--of a presidential level of importance--at the same time, thus creating the occasion for the excuse that they were pursuing Trump so they couldn't multitask and check out Weiner's laptop.
That's why you don't double-book people, asshole!
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2018 08:15 PM (vDqXW)
Gowdy... *types*...*deletes* I think that guy is bought and paid for with CGI cash.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 14, 2018 08:15 PM (qWg0i)
Therefore, the IG's finding of no improper motive, and only questionable but legitimate judgement calls in the investigation process is absurd. Doesn't matter how lurid the toxic and stupid views of FBI personnel, as revealed in their comms, might have been.
Some of the dramatic personae may hang (well, be convicted anyway) on particular matters, some of which might be documented in the body of the report. But the country was just told that the comically corrupt obstruction of justice clumsily performed by the FBI/DOJ on behalf of the Clinton crime team at State didn't happen - or, somehow, magically, there is no documentary evidence of it.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 08:15 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 14, 2018 08:15 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: PhilDirt at June 14, 2018 08:16 PM (7I/ak)
Posted by: JAS at June 14, 2018 08:16 PM (3HNOQ)
FBI Director Wray says that they will conduct anti-bias training. WHAT A FUCKING CROC!!!!eleventy x 1000.
What these cocksucking, seditious, treasonous empoyees need - in lieu of hanging, which is what they deserve - is fucking training on the meaning of the oath that they took which specifically states that they will support and defend the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES ... not a particular candidate or political party!!!!!
For Fuck's Sake!!!!
Posted by: LGoPs at June 14, 2018 08:16 PM (FWsqf)
Wrote articles for Commentary
Spent part his life as a US Infantry Man
I worked for Weekly Standard
But they soon found out what my reasons were
Started shilling for a trip on my own cruise line
(chorus)
I work with a long line of Cuckers
Hayes, French, and others
We were born with silver spoons in our hands
Part neocon, a little liberal
Please take my wife, you young bull
My bloodline ... disowned who I am.
Ahoy !!!
Posted by: Scogg Kristol Sings the Redneck Classics at June 14, 2018 08:16 PM (fiGNd)
If you can't find documentary evidence of bias in all the "I hate Trump and his supporters" type of statements, then you can never ever find bias. Ever. Because you are willfully blind.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 14, 2018 08:16 PM (r+sAi)
Also, what's this bullshit that there were just so many people with access and leaking that *shrug* whatchagonnado.
What you do is fire every single solitary one of them, yank their pensions, name them publicly, and make sure that everyone who remains understands that there is a zero tolerance policy. Oh and prosecute too.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at June 14, 2018 08:17 PM (dEQP3)
No one should be the least bit surprised an Actor would want to bring justice to someone who is openly collaborating with Negroes and Abolitionists. There could hardly be a more important role for an actor.
Posted by: Evan McMullin super cia spy, boy genius, brain of german shepherd at June 14, 2018 08:17 PM (9yPBp)
Goudy had been defending the FBI. The report made him look bad.
Posted by: JAS at June 14, 2018 08:11 PM (3HNOQ)
I think Gowdy spewed his "I defend and support the FIB" speech a few days ago just to now be able to say, "Oh, horrors! You betrayed us, you corrupt idiots."
He really can't be so naive to believe that these people were shining white knights and paladins, spotless and without sin, can he?
Can he?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 14, 2018 08:18 PM (8iiMU)
What would've happened if he'd refused to recuse himself?
Nothing.
The media would've boiled about it for a bit and then moved on.
Congress? We control it, but even if we didn't so what? They held Eric Holder in contempt and not a thing changed.
This is why it's so, so important to never apologize and never bend the knee.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 14, 2018 08:18 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 14, 2018 08:18 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 14, 2018 08:18 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2018 08:14 PM (/tuJf)
++++
I'll feel better when you get Sara Carter and Catherine Herridge and Sharyl Attkisson on your side as well as Ol' Kim.
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at June 14, 2018 08:18 PM (2sCft)
Posted by: Right Angles at June 14, 2018 08:18 PM (QviAd)
She will be disappointed by everything I have to say.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 14, 2018 08:18 PM (fuK7c)
evidence of political bias not that there wasn't any. It's a pretty
important distinction.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2018 08:11 PM (/tuJf)
Kind of like if you are a guy with a hard cock up your ass and the guy is sweating and puffing, but there isn't any documentary evidence that you are actually gay. Or something.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 14, 2018 08:18 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 14, 2018 08:19 PM (BRvh1)
Posted by: goon at June 14, 2018 08:19 PM (PEcU2)
@46
Apparently the only way the dip shit IG would be able to infer
political bias would be for one of the conspirators to explicitly state,
"I would love to conduct a fair and impartial investigation but my
political bypasses preclude that!!
Apparently someone stating, explicitly, "...we won't let Trump win."
and after the election, "...im physically sick from the election
results.." among other revelation.
This is all a multi-act production of The Aristocrats.
Posted by: Kreplach at June 14, 2018 08:11 PM (UfMVm)
Lets not forget Fuck Flynn and then Fuck Trump. Cause, yeah no bias there.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 14, 2018 08:19 PM (9dzlp)
Kinda like the Whoa Fat situation.
Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 14, 2018 08:19 PM (TA9CI)
I am now convinced this was part of the original plan.
I don't know if/when they got to Sessions, but standing on that side of the fence means you are absolutely standing in bullshit, Jeff.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 14, 2018 08:14 PM (UsCnO)
Not to defend his excessively passive behavior: but some men are highly committed to personal integrity, even when others don't have it. Sessions is on par with that: others supervise prosecutions when they are horribly compromised and should not be allowed near it. Sessions permits this by refusing to terminate such men. And the President would be derelict by permitting it to continue.
For whatever reason, the President and AG have decided to let these guys keep hanging themselves. I really hope Trump knows what he's doing, and the evidence currently points to "yes."
Posted by: trev006 at June 14, 2018 08:19 PM (X2App)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 14, 2018 08:19 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: blaster at June 14, 2018 08:12 PM (jHrzU)
Rush said today in his opinion, Gowdy was defending his buds at the FBI a couple weeks ago to show that he was open minded, fair, hadn't come to any absolute conclusions about what was going on at the FBI, and wasn't assuming this report was going to have damning info in it. So today, his strong disappointment and statement was made to look all the more genuine, than if he had been nattering on for weeks about how awful the FBI is.
Mmm, maybe. At some point, these guys are going to have to admit that the FBI , just like the DOJ and IRS, are full of Comey's and McCabes, and need a serious overhaul, not just nibbling around the edges.
I wonder if the FBI is polling lower than congress right now?
Posted by: Jen the original at June 14, 2018 08:20 PM (NLeU8)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 14, 2018 08:18 PM (ptqGC)
Wasn't he heading the DNC a while back? Or maybe the NAACP?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 14, 2018 08:20 PM (BRvh1)
I am calling Bullshit.
Posted by: JAS at June 14, 2018 08:20 PM (3HNOQ)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2018 08:20 PM (W+vEI)
I think Gowdy spewed his "I defend and support
the FIB" speech a few days ago just to now be able to say, "Oh, horrors!
You betrayed us, you corrupt idiots."
He really can't be so
naive to believe that these people were shining white knights and
paladins, spotless and without sin, can he?
Can he?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 14, 2018 08:18 PM (8iiMU)
I've lost a lot of respect for Gowdy recently.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 14, 2018 08:20 PM (UsCnO)
But there is documentary evidence of extreme bias against Trump and in favor of Clinton.
Emails and texts reveal that so I don't know what else they are talking about when they say no documentary evidence.
Its not like the conspirators were going to make entries in their official records and reports stating, "I'd love to pursue this avenue of inquiry but I can't, because biases.
Its absurd.
Posted by: Kreplach at June 14, 2018 08:21 PM (UfMVm)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 14, 2018 08:21 PM (Evws/)
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at June 14, 2018 08:21 PM (KxbBq)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 14, 2018 08:21 PM (zfrbv)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 14, 2018 08:08 PM (4ErVI)
That still seems like a major unforced error on PDJT's part, He should have fired Sesionzzz within minutes of hearing about the recusal!
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at June 14, 2018 08:21 PM (n9EOP)
Yeah, the way he made it sound in his little speech was like a couple of black guys got kicked out of the FBI cafeteria.
Posted by: tu3031 at June 14, 2018 08:21 PM (O5Q3r)
Also not part of the Hillary email investigation. Likely part of the FISA abuse investigation.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2018 08:21 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at June 14, 2018 08:18 PM (2sCft)
I'd feel better if Catherine Herridge had her backside on my lap ... and I'd swear to every word and conclusion JackStraw ever made if that's what it took.
And after Scogg Kristol Sings the Classics - I'm climbing to the top of the amplifier stack and smashing the Telecaster. Show's over. I can't do any better than that.
Ahoy !!!
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 14, 2018 08:21 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Ace of Spades at 07:50 PM
Only if I can watch!--Captain Billy "Bones" Kristol
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 14, 2018 08:21 PM (9BLnV)
evidence of political bias not that there wasn't any. It's a pretty
important distinction.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2018 08:11 PM (/tuJf)
____________
They are killing the USA with words.
Posted by: Right Angles at June 14, 2018 08:22 PM (QviAd)
Posted by: JAS at June 14, 2018 08:22 PM (3HNOQ)
"...I prefer the Deep State to the Trump State."
And there you have it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 14, 2018 08:22 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at June 14, 2018 08:22 PM (dKiJG)
He "feels" he needs to live up to the FBI's partners, like prosecutors and other law enforcement.
What he didn't mention is that he needs to live up to the expectations of the American public who employs these asshsholes and pay their salaries.
He also didn't mention that the FBI needs to be responsible to our elected officials, like the President and our Congress. He just wants to be responsible to other bureaucrats!
No f***ing mention of the people that pay his salary. IMO he's a deep state POS.
F*** that
Posted by: Farmer at June 14, 2018 08:22 PM (yJ1e6)
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“Now is the most important time for journalism ever in this country. Corporate bosses are slashing staff & newsroooms all over the country when they should paying hard working reporters more” - People who gave away golf trips & sports tickets to the FBI
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2018 08:22 PM (vDqXW)
Either she was too stupid to be President (if she did not know what C meant), or too much a liar (corrupt) to be President.
Seriously, I had a few of these back and forth before the election. We were talking about her separate e-mail server. Same logic applied.
People couldn't find their way out of that simple response from me. You could see their brains spinning. It was bcz they had 't considered it in those terms. Were too busy with the media narrative to have even thought it through.
Posted by: platypus at June 14, 2018 08:22 PM (GVZIJ)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 14, 2018 08:23 PM (F5+ro)
Posted by: blaster at June 14, 2018 08:23 PM (jHrzU)
If he found classified shit on his laptop after seizing it for child pornography, NOT knowing the Huma connection would have made it that much more worth looking into ASAP.
Posted by: Ktgreat at June 14, 2018 08:23 PM (f8ilN)
And some sticky substance from the corner of his mouth.
------
Ectoplasm?
Posted by: andycanuck at June 14, 2018 08:21 PM (Evws/)
He was slimed?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 14, 2018 08:23 PM (8iiMU)
And hilarity ensues.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 14, 2018 08:24 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Marcus T at June 14, 2018 08:24 PM (8Ku6c)
Nope its not there at all. Don't believe what you read and know from independent and verifiable sources. Just listen to or spin.
This might have been a bridge too far for some, except Egg Mcmuffin.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 14, 2018 08:24 PM (9dzlp)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 14, 2018 08:24 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 14, 2018 08:24 PM (PUmDY)
She gave it to them on a fucking silver platter for crying out loud!
Posted by: LGoPs at June 14, 2018 08:24 PM (FWsqf)
What an idiot.
Posted by: platypus at June 14, 2018 08:24 PM (GVZIJ)
Posted by: Right Angles at June 14, 2018 08:22 PM (QviAd)
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Only it used to be mainly confined to judges.
"This opinion does not disparage religion because ... [I SAY it DOESN'T!! WHO DO YOU PEASANTS THINK YOU ARE??!!!]"
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2018 08:24 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: rickl at June 14, 2018 08:24 PM (sdi6R)
====
Specter was a Democrat DA of Philthadelphia & wanted to be Senator & his handlers told him there is no way a Philly Democrat wins a Statewide Election, so he switched parties. Politcal expediency
Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 14, 2018 08:24 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 14, 2018 08:24 PM (Evws/)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 14, 2018 08:14 PM (UsCnO)
Not to defend his excessively passive behavior: but some men are
highly committed to personal integrity, even when others don't have it.
Sessions is on par with that: others supervise prosecutions when they
are horribly compromised and should not be allowed near it. Sessions
permits this by refusing to terminate such men. And the President would
be derelict by permitting it to continue.
Posted by: trev006 at June 14, 2018 08:19 PM (X2App)
I used to think this of Sessions. His continued actions in the light of such high levels of lies from his underlings tell me the opposite.
There have been many points in time where such a man has to step up and say "enough". I don't see Sessions ever doing that. He has already had many chances to say enough.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 14, 2018 08:25 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 14, 2018 08:25 PM (ptqGC)
I wondered if Grassley's refusal to replace sessions was bc he was pissed trump didn't pull sessions' nomination when he had the chance.
Posted by: Ever at June 14, 2018 08:25 PM (QPeHQ)
The "Mid-Year Exam" (Clinton/State) investigation was what they themselves called a "headquarters special" - it was run out of FBI HQ, not the field office. Not the usual way of doing things. Haven't had time to see whether the IG looked at things like this - very basic aspects of this case that screamed "what's going on here?".
It was so limited, almost certainly, for obvious reasons. In fact, the first senior agent involved quit in May 2016 (Giacalone), with reason to think he did so because he saw the whitewash approaching.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 08:25 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at June 14, 2018 08:26 PM (nBr1j)
https://tinyurl.com/ya43ko3j
It's 8:16 p.m today from "Donna in Oregon" near the end of that thread on Wary's press conference.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 14, 2018 08:26 PM (0/+vJ)
*big guitar chord at the end*
I love you all, don't forget to book your cabin on the next cruise. Goodnight !!!
Posted by: Scogg Kristol Sings the Redneck Classics at June 14, 2018 08:26 PM (fiGNd)
A customer wanted to take me and a colleague out to dinner. I asked my boss. She said "$15 will barely cover the beer. Sure go ahead."
It was OK, only when my boss was aware of it.
Posted by: JAS at June 14, 2018 08:26 PM (3HNOQ)
I may just keep my jammies on and enjoy the lies and meltdown.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 14, 2018 08:27 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 14, 2018 08:27 PM (Evws/)
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at June 14, 2018 08:26 PM (nBr1j)
+++
Cleaning up the wife, post coitus.
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at June 14, 2018 08:27 PM (2sCft)
Goudy had been defending the FBI. The report made him look bad.
Posted by: JAS at June 14, 2018 08:11 PM (3HNOQ)
I think Gowdy spewed his "I defend and support the FIB" speech a few days ago just to now be able to say, "Oh, horrors! You betrayed us, you corrupt idiots."
He really can't be so naive to believe that these people were shining white knights and paladins, spotless and without sin, can he?
Can he?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt
Its Failure Theater at its finest!!
Posted by: Puddleglum at June 14, 2018 08:27 PM (20X6f)
Posted by: Ali Watkins at June 14, 2018 08:28 PM (OEYqM)
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at June 14, 2018 08:26 PM (nBr1j)
He and five other cuc...
Never mind, I was going to go in a Captain Planet direction...
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 14, 2018 08:28 PM (ndTbZ)
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at June 14, 2018 08:21 PM (n9EOP)
Don't forget that Session's confirmation hearings were when "don't let Trump be sworn in " fever was at a pitch. Sessions was accused by the Democrats in Congress of being a grand wizard of the KKK, the Russia stupidity had just opened and it took days to get him confirmed. Dems were jonesing to have him arrested for collusion because he said hello to a Russian at a dinner with 500 other people. I think people are forgetting what a circus Trump's initial appointees were for getting through Congress. Not only the Dems but the Never Trumpers, including McConnell and Ryan.
He would have still been trying to get another AG through.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 14, 2018 08:28 PM (NLeU8)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 14, 2018 08:18 PM (ptqGC)
Wasn't he heading the DNC a while back? Or maybe the NAACP?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 14, 2018 08:20 PM (BRvh1)
======
Did you miss Richard(Dicksucker)Goodstein earlier? TuCa show is getting incredibly monotonous, have some Progtard on & have them filibuster with verbal vomit & not answer one question. I just flip the station or hit mute
Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 14, 2018 08:28 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 14, 2018 08:28 PM (oVJmc)
I'm working my way through the entire OIG report....
I have to say -- I might be imagining it, but it almost seems like this report is written with a lot of snark. Almost like a very dry kind of humor throughout it.
The OIG report goes through a whole thing about how Comey's team couldnt find a definition for "gross negligence" in the statute (gross negligence is a term of art in law that does not need to be defined), so they went to the legislative history, where they found a floor speech of a congressman from 1917 who said gross negligence is found commonly in statutes, then uses an example about driving a vehicle recklessly and killing someone.
So Comeys crack team of researchers then looked up court cases and precedent of manslaughter laws in various states from the 1917 era requiring gross negligence. The OIG report dryly notes that the Comey's teams summation of these cases is that it requires more than negligence -- more like wanton disregard. They use the phrase "almost intent."
To me, it seems like whoever wrote the OIG report was rolling their eyes going through this whole rigmarole.
Comeys team sound like desperate defense attorneys trying to find a silly loophole that a judge maybe just maybe might buy, not prosecutors.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 14, 2018 08:29 PM (F5+ro)
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem
He smells like smegma
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at June 14, 2018 08:29 PM (S6Pax)
Posted by: REDACTED at June 14, 2018 08:30 PM (iOL28)
What do Netflix employees do, anyway? Maintain servers? Marketing and sales guys?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 14, 2018 08:30 PM (ndTbZ)
Nope its not there at all. Don't believe what you read and know from independent and verifiable sources. Just listen to or spin.
This might have been a bridge too far for some, except Egg Mcmuffin.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 14, 2018 08:24 PM (9dzlp)
Yep. It will piss off and wake up many millions of Americans. Let it sit for a bit while the usual suspects hang themselves with their own rope. Then release the original unredacted version that RR wasn't involved with.
Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 14, 2018 08:30 PM (TA9CI)
Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 14, 2018 08:24 PM (y3aQB)
Yup...he was a real shit heel and one of the first "Rinos" to take center stage.
Too bad he didn't get hit with the "magic bullet" but I am happy he is dead.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 14, 2018 08:30 PM (EoRCO)
If he found classified shit on his laptop after seizing it for child pornography, NOT knowing the Huma connection would have made it that much more worth looking into ASAP.
Posted by: Ktgreat at June 14, 2018 08:23 PM (f8ilN)
Compared to when some guy gets hit by a car and the FBI find a hollow nickel with classified information.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at June 14, 2018 08:30 PM (dKiJG)
Mmm, maybe. At some point, these guys are going to have to admit that the FBI , just like the DOJ and IRS, are full of Comey's and McCabes, and need a serious overhaul, not just nibbling around the edges.
I know where I'd start looking; I'd want to know who was hired during Bronco Bama's Reign of Error.
And then, I'd want to know who was hired by BJ Cliton and is still there.
And who they hired.
And I'd start waterboarding them in no particular order because fairness.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 14, 2018 08:30 PM (HaL55)
Five, Six, Seven O'clock, Eight O'clock cuck.
Nine, Ten, Eleven O'clock, Twelve O'clock cuck,
They're gonna cuck around the clock tonight.
They're gonna cuck around the clock tonight,
They're gonna cuck, cuck, cuck, 'till broad daylight,
They're gonna cuck around the clock tonight.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 14, 2018 08:31 PM (SiINZ)
What he said was he couldn't find any documentary
evidence of political bias not that there wasn't any. It's a pretty
important distinction.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2018 08:11 PM (/tuJf)
I keep saying it. The documentary evidence is right in their report. Its that they broke all their rules and 100% of the time it benefited Hillary. That pattern of the favoritism is the documentation. Not once did they have to explain why they were "too hard" on Hillary and apologize for putting spies in her campaign after the found an illegal server leaking classified documents to the "foreign AC-TORS"
It's in the report.
Every time they broke protocol Hillary benefited, and their words in their emails/text magnifies their intent.
Its laughable and anyone who hears it knows it.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 14, 2018 08:31 PM (9dzlp)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
He smells like smegma too.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at June 14, 2018 08:31 PM (S6Pax)
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at June 14, 2018 08:26 PM (nBr1j)
A double jointed waist.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 14, 2018 08:31 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at June 14, 2018 08:26 PM (
Bald wilting.
Posted by: eleven at June 14, 2018 08:31 PM (+lOpA)
As a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, she would have had to take the relavant training (especially since this was during the Bush Administration which would not have allowed her to skip the training).
Posted by: SMOD at June 14, 2018 08:33 PM (e8kgV)
Two things to realize about Sessions.
He is a Washington insider... he is HUGELY invested in the system.
And, he is 72 years old...
Trump, having the energy at his age to make real change is an outlier...
Sessionzzzz should be in retirement IMO.
Posted by: Don Q at June 14, 2018 08:33 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Eromero at June 14, 2018 08:33 PM (zLDYs)
What a silly little unimportant twat
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 14, 2018 08:33 PM (SiINZ)
No one should be the least bit surprised that an FBI agent would want to bring to justice someone who is openly collaborating with Russian intelligence and they're coming to take me away Ha Ha they're coming to take me away ho ho he he ha ha in order to capture the American presidency. There could hardly be a more important mission for the FBI, to the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time, and I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're coming to take me away ha ha
Posted by: Evan McMullin at June 14, 2018 08:34 PM (bUjCl)
But guess what. They pretended to believe it.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 14, 2018 08:34 PM (NLeU8)
Posted by: Max Power at June 14, 2018 08:34 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Eromero
Obama looked pretty hard to find someone like Brennan. It was not a mistake.
It was a fundamental tactic of the Obama Regime.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at June 14, 2018 08:34 PM (S6Pax)
Its laughable and anyone who hears it knows it.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 14, 2018 08:31 PM (9dzlp)
Funny how a pattern of result can be used in a Court to prove RACIAL bias...
but apparently, not POLITICAL bias.
Posted by: Don Q at June 14, 2018 08:34 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 14, 2018 08:35 PM (BRvh1)
Posted by: Wyatt at June 14, 2018 08:35 PM (raFmT)
And how do you know that some one is looking at you for more than five seconds unless you are watching them watch you for five seconds. Mutually assured destruction in the HR world I guess.
Posted by: bananadream at June 14, 2018 08:35 PM (yRBj9)
It ranks as one of the most breath-takingly arrogant, and clueless, public performances by a govt. figure of consequence in my lifetime (which is saying something, esp. after the last 8 years).
I'm still stunned by it. Dying to know what Trump and senior WH staff and even Sessions think of it.
A key govt. agency is ablaze, its degradation was just further emphasized and documented by a report that raised even more questions about the wider DOJ with its ridiculous findings, and ..... let's talk about how well our recruiting is going, how tough it is to get into our intern program, and how we only care about the opinions of those working with us.
Jeebus.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 08:35 PM (QDnY+)
It's hard to believe Hillary didn't know the significance of the "(C)"designation.
It stands for "Copyright".
As in Hillary's words are copyrighted and if you try to use them, she will sue the crap out of you.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 14, 2018 08:35 PM (UsCnO)
Jackstraw, any sourced info?
Posted by: RI Red at June 14, 2018 08:36 PM (I1V3o)
Always looks as if he's going to snick something from his nose with his tongue.
Posted by: Right Angles at June 14, 2018 08:36 PM (QviAd)
Posted by: Wyatt at June 14, 2018 08:36 PM (raFmT)
Posted by: eleven at June 14, 2018 08:36 PM (+lOpA)
Obvious bias is definitely in the report. The question is is there anything that they could take to court and get a conviction on a specific point.
It's not what you know it's what you can prove in court. The latter is a much higher bar.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2018 08:37 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 08:25 PM (QDnY+)
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Yeah, I agree. It's a real curious thing if the FBI would cop to these investigations being connected: Give Hillary the queen treatment while going hard after Trump--regardless of what Comey did in October. The connection would point to actions all aligned in a similar direction.
But if you make the case that they are not connected, then you can at least make the case that Comey invited Strzok's delay by double-booking him.
I'm not saying that's bedrock truth, I'm saying that's a strategic advantage from the enemies insistence that the FBI somehow was neutral in all this. Well, Comey ballocksed it up, by trying to have the same team run both investigations--even while giving no guidance to make sure they wrap up anything Clinton before proceeding on to Trump.
This makes Comey clearly cannable, and cause completely removes obstruction as an issue: Comey's incompetent. Even if I don't believe it in that sense.
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2018 08:37 PM (vDqXW)
Well said reference...
and very depressing!
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at June 14, 2018 08:37 PM (n9EOP)
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 14, 2018 08:37 PM (o0mD3)
It ranks as one of the most breath-takingly arrogant, and clueless, public performances by a govt. figure of consequence in my lifetime (which is saying something, esp. after the last 8 years).
What a total piece of shit he is. Miserable lying bastard
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 14, 2018 08:37 PM (SiINZ)
It ranks as one of the most breath-takingly arrogant, and clueless,
public performances by a govt. figure of consequence in my lifetime
(which is saying something, esp. after the last 8 years).
I'm still stunned by it. Dying to know what Trump and senior WH staff and even Sessions think of it.
Wray is trying to catch on as a Hollywood screenwriter. Specializing in fiction.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 14, 2018 08:37 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2018 08:37 PM (/tuJf)
Not according to Robert Mueller.
Posted by: Don Q at June 14, 2018 08:38 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2018 08:37 PM (/tuJf)
Without a doubt they could get a conviction on at least the "gross negligence" mishandling of classified data charge.
Well, maybe not in DC, but anywhere else in the country.
Although it makes it harder now that former AAG Comey has stated as is professional prosecutor opinion that "no reasonable prosecutor" would bring the charge forward, then referenced manslaughter laws from 1917.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 14, 2018 08:38 PM (F5+ro)
We know that they are all villains but which column?
Posted by: Right Angles at June 14, 2018 08:38 PM (QviAd)
Honestly, what she was doing was so far past a matter of understanding a 'C' designation that it is enraging that she gave this excuses.
She was essentially committing espionage because she was not only distributing classified intel that she received as part of her job, but she was receiving and passing along intel she was not read in on - stuff she had no business possessing. And *this* points to her being up to something much worse than carelessness with documents - she had people inside IC agencies (some of whom we can probably ID now) stealing intel for her. To what end? Was she selling this? Was she using it to further her friends' business and then getting a kickback? Something worse?
Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2018 08:39 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: Henny Kristol at June 14, 2018 08:39 PM (BRvh1)
Posted by: RI Red at June 14, 2018 08:39 PM (I1V3o)
Jeebus.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 08:35 PM (QDnY+)
I know right?......some people.....sheesh.
Posted by: Zombie Budd Dwyer at June 14, 2018 08:39 PM (EoRCO)
But I'm just a hoi polloi.
Posted by: eleven at June 14, 2018 08:36 PM (+lOpA)
For you, comrade citizen, ignorance is most definitely NOT a defense!
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at June 14, 2018 08:39 PM (n9EOP)
Posted by: Don Q at June 14, 2018 08:33 PM (NgKpN)
sessions got a total of nine bills passed in his 20 years in the senate. i think he officially retired a couple of decades ago.
Posted by: Ever at June 14, 2018 08:39 PM (QPeHQ)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 14, 2018 08:40 PM (Evws/)
Posted by: Eromero
Obama looked pretty hard to find someone like Brennan. It was not a mistake.
It was a fundamental tactic of the Obama Regime.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron
Brennan was also a communist. Another reason Obama picked him.
Posted by: Puddleglum at June 14, 2018 08:40 PM (20X6f)
Posted by: Egg McKristol at June 14, 2018 08:40 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at June 14, 2018 08:41 PM (nBr1j)
I ordered bath towels from L.L. Bean. When they arrived I decided I didn't like the color, so I sent them back to exchange them for a different color.
I just got an e-mail confirming receipt of my return. It looks like the towels have gone on sale since I originally ordered them. If I read it correctly, I may get a partial refund in addition to the replacement towels.
#StillNotTiredOfWinning
Posted by: rickl at June 14, 2018 08:41 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Regular joe at June 14, 2018 08:41 PM (rwVzJ)
Ok, who knows when the OIG FISA abuse report comes in?
Jackstraw, any sourced info?
Posted by: RI Red at June 14, 2018 08:36 PM (I1V3o)
You have to ask?
Two Weeks
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 14, 2018 08:41 PM (9dzlp)
Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 14, 2018 08:41 PM (TA9CI)
Heh. I don't think I could stomach watching that crew after the OIG report.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2018 08:42 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: Ever at June 14, 2018 08:39 PM (QPeHQ)
Good thing Sessionzzz was in the collegial Senate and DC for decades to establish his integrity and independence!
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at June 14, 2018 08:42 PM (n9EOP)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 14, 2018 08:42 PM (F5+ro)
Posted by: RI Red at June 14, 2018 08:43 PM (I1V3o)
Look at the 13 Republicans that voted in favor of his confirmation
http://bit.ly/2LT4yET
Posted by: Atlanta Bob at June 14, 2018 08:43 PM (49y5s)
But guess what. They pretended to believe it.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 14, 2018 08:34 PM (NLeU
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And any operative of the left will. I've seen it countless times. They don't have a good argument, they just need a *side* to tell. That makes you "close minded" for not considering their side, and makes you "fanatic" for insisting your own.
It allows a lot of back and forth where they run out the clock, and declare victory since "no one can decide" and "it's a divided nation" and all that crap that they say. It's the way that almost every single liberal that comes on Tucker is a time-waster, just prattling a party line (and I've tried *hard* to see in any other way) until their spot is done.
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2018 08:43 PM (vDqXW)
That was obviously a dodge.
The laws are clear, you do not have to demonstrate gross negligence, you do not have to demonstrate intent, all you have to show is that classified data was transmitted from secure systems to insecure systems, and that you allowed people who did not have the necessary security clearance
to access them.
In some cases, documents tohat were only viewable on secure systems that were not connected to the net jumped the gap and were transmitted to Hillary's insecure server.
This is all bullshit.
Posted by: Kreplach at June 14, 2018 08:43 PM (UfMVm)
Really.
I mean, breathtakingly.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 14, 2018 08:42 PM (F5+ro)
You mean you aren't impressed by his intern program or the 5% acceptance? Better than Harvard or Yale...
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 14, 2018 08:44 PM (SiINZ)
Posted by: Regular joe at June 14, 2018 08:44 PM (rwVzJ)
Posted by: Zombie Fay Wray at June 14, 2018 08:44 PM (Tyii7)
The FBI came over and left shart stains on the white couch... any tips for getting that stuff off leather?
Posted by: Captain Planet's Less Gay Brother at June 14, 2018 08:44 PM (qul7b)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2018 08:44 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2018 08:43 PM (vDqXW)
They have their actual arguments, then their "tv arguments" which almost no one believes are true, but they think we (the right) are stupid and easily confused; so they'll just throw it out there.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 14, 2018 08:44 PM (F5+ro)
>>It's hard to believe Hillary didn't know the significance of the "(C)"designation.
Honestly, what she was doing was so far past a matter of
understanding a 'C' designation that it is enraging that she gave this
excuses.
She was essentially committing espionage because she was not only
distributing classified intel that she received as part of her job, but
she was receiving and passing along intel she was not read in on - stuff
she had no business possessing. And *this* points to her being up to
something much worse than carelessness with documents - she had people
inside IC agencies (some of whom we can probably ID now) stealing intel
for her. To what end? Was she selling this? Was she using it to further
her friends' business and then getting a kickback? Something worse?
Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2018 08:39 PM (W+vEI)
I always thought her server was a blind drop. A way wicked retahded one, but I think that somewhere, someone convinced her it was good idea to pass the info that way.
Its sad that the D's take national security so lightly. Party before nation indeed.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 14, 2018 08:45 PM (9dzlp)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2018 08:45 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 14, 2018 08:44 PM (SiINZ)
Well, I'm sold!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 14, 2018 08:45 PM (F5+ro)
Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at June 14, 2018 08:45 PM (Yg8Fy)
Posted by: Mitchell Morgan at June 14, 2018 08:46 PM (BvNzB)
essions got a total of nine bills passed in his 20 years in the senate. i think he officially retired a couple of decades ago.
Posted by: Ever at June 14, 2018 08:39 PM
We probably have more than enough laws as it is.
Maybe they should eliminate some of them instead.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 14, 2018 08:46 PM (IqV8l)
Are we sure we k now about all of them?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 14, 2018 08:46 PM (F5+ro)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 14, 2018 08:26 PM (0/+vJ)
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FOUND IT ON THE (CURRENTLY) 6TH PAGE OF COMMENTS at https://tinyurl.com/yah6rcoj
Posted by: ShainS at June 14, 2018 08:46 PM (BiLU+)
Lamar Alexander
Richard M. Burr
Daniel Coats
Tom Coburn
Susan Collins
Bob Corker
Jeff Flake
Lindsey Graham
Orrin G. Hatch
Mark Steven Kirk
John McCain
Lisa Murkowski
Marco Rubio
Posted by: Atlanta Bob at June 14, 2018 08:46 PM (49y5s)
Posted by: Kreplach at June 14, 2018 08:43 PM (UfMVm)
In my old job, if I was witting of such a classified data transfer from a secure to an insecure off the books system and didn't report it immediately to my security officer, I'd still be in a subbasement windowless cell in Leavenworth!
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at June 14, 2018 08:46 PM (n9EOP)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 14, 2018 08:47 PM (BRvh1)
Posted by: Ace of Spades at 07:50 PM
Why ask? Nobody else does.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 14, 2018 08:47 PM (z79tQ)
It's not what you know it's what you can prove in court. The latter is a much higher bar.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2018 08:37 PM (/tuJf)
Not according to Robert Mueller.
Posted by: Don Q at June 14, 2018 08:38 PM (NgKpN)
Touche
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 14, 2018 08:47 PM (9dzlp)
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I'm back, just as I suspected. What IG report? Oh, and mueller still hasn't found any collusion. And the cubs lost.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 14, 2018 08:47 PM (wdmm9)
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 08:48 PM (QDnY+)
Are we sure we k now about all of them?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 14, 2018 08:46 PM (F5+ro)
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I think Rush bought a domain name for her as a birthday gift one year:
mostcheatedonwomanintheworld.com
Posted by: ShainS at June 14, 2018 08:48 PM (BiLU+)
Obvious bias is definitely in the report. The question is is there anything that they could take to court and get a conviction on a specific point.
It's not what you know it's what you can prove in court. The latter is a much higher bar.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Investigators, prosecutors, and defenders all are DeepState, none of them want discovery exposed to the public, a trial would bring political calamity to DeepState.
Posted by: Right Angles at June 14, 2018 08:49 PM (QviAd)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2018 08:49 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: rickl at June 14, 2018 08:49 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 14, 2018 08:45 PM (9dzlp)
They are actively attempting to subvert and destroy the Governement as constituted in the Constitution. (precise and accurate, but still sounds funny....)
Why in the balls would they care in the slightest about a security breach?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 14, 2018 08:49 PM (BRvh1)
Not according to Robert Mueller.
Posted by: Don Q at June 14, 2018 08:38 PM (NgKpN)
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I don't think Mueller cares about what he can prove in court. His target is Trump, his target court is Congress. He will twist arms and raid lawyers and totally crap over rules of evidence, because when he finally strong-arms the goods on Trump (if any), Congress isn't bound by rules of evidence.
That's what I'm thinking these days. This is why they got a guy *known* for withholding evidence and shady prosecution. Dirty Bob.
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2018 08:51 PM (vDqXW)
Ok, who knows when the OIG FISA abuse report comes in?
Jackstraw, any sourced info?
Posted by: RI Red at June 14, 2018 08:36 PM (I1V3o)
At least a year, my guess is much longer since everyone involved requires the highest level natsec clearances. Because of the classification level I have a hard time imagining such a report can even be released to the public woth any specifics.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 14, 2018 08:51 PM (rnXGe)
Posted by: Atlanta Bob at June 14, 2018 08:51 PM (49y5s)
Posted by: Eromero at June 14, 2018 08:51 PM (zLDYs)
DeeDee for being Doubly Deluded.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 14, 2018 08:51 PM (AgRBF)
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I'm back, just as I suspected. What IG report? Oh, and mueller still hasn't found any collusion. And the cubs lost.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 14, 2018 08:47 PM (wdmm9)
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And you'll be assured that #FakeAG Sessions is still playing 11-dimensional possum in preparation for eventually saving the nation around 2025 ...
Posted by: ShainS at June 14, 2018 08:51 PM (BiLU+)
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at June 14, 2018 08:51 PM (nBr1j)
THESE PEOPLE, AND THEIR FELLOW FELONS in the bureaucracy, are the SAME ONES making those checks. Is there anyone here stupid enough to think that process is being done fairly and honestly either????
Posted by: SDN at June 14, 2018 08:52 PM (z3gg+)
Bottom Line Up Front -
- No documented evidence of political bias
Then 500 pages of FIBs licking Hillary's fetid crotch and disparaging Trump.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 14, 2018 08:52 PM (1g7ch)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 14, 2018 08:52 PM (cHVSG)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 14, 2018 08:52 PM (wdmm9)
Posted by: kallisto at June 14, 2018 08:52 PM (dq4fo)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2018 08:49 PM (/tuJf)
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See my above post. I assess that he doesn't really care--outside of what excessive embarrassment might do, such as spur a consensus to shut down his Stasi.
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2018 08:52 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: RI Red at June 14, 2018 08:53 PM (I1V3o)
Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at June 14, 2018 08:53 PM (Yg8Fy)
Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 14, 2018 08:53 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 14, 2018 08:53 PM (ndTbZ)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 14, 2018 08:47 PM (wdmm9)
At least there is some good news to look forward to.
Posted by: tbodie at June 14, 2018 08:53 PM (3W5cQ)
Brennan's confirmation to CIA.
Posted by: Atlanta Bob at June 14, 2018 08:51 PM (49y5s)
Thanks.
That's rather telling, isn't it?
Posted by: rickl at June 14, 2018 08:54 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 14, 2018 08:54 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 14, 2018 08:52 PM (wdmm9)
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The Dems are rallying around that it's Comey's fault. Well if it's Comey's fault, there doesn't need to be Russian collusion to explain the Trump win.
Why can't the Dems take the explanation that gosh, mistakes were made?
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2018 08:54 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: Right Angles at June 14, 2018 08:49 PM (QviAd)
They need to be exposed to helicopter rides
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 14, 2018 08:54 PM (SiINZ)
Lamar Alexander
Richard M. Burr
Daniel Coats
Tom Coburn
Susan Collins
Bob Corker
Jeff Flake
Lindsey Graham
Orrin G. Hatch
Mark Steven Kirk
John McCain
Lisa Murkowski
Marco Rubio
Posted by: Atlanta Bob at June 14, 2018 08:46 PM (49y5s)
I'd be shocked if any of these blackmailed commies voted no.
Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 14, 2018 08:54 PM (TA9CI)
Posted by: ErikInTexas at June 14, 2018 08:55 PM (0EUAh)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 14, 2018 08:45 PM (9dzlp)
They are actively attempting to subvert and destroy the Governement
as constituted in the Constitution. (precise and accurate, but still
sounds funny....)
Why in the balls would they care in the slightest about a security breach?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 14, 2018 08:49 PM (BRvh1)
Their actions prove their loyalties and their treason. They consider us - Conservatives, Republicans - as the true enemy. It is more important to hide/secure their communications from us than from the country's actual enemies - Russia, China, and every other fucking intelligence agency on the planet that had the ability to hack into her 'bathroom server'.
That shows where their true loyalties lie. This is as Un-American as you can get!
Posted by: LGoPs at June 14, 2018 08:55 PM (FWsqf)
But I'm already wrong on that case. Was certain Mueller would drop it after the debacle at arraignment (defendants showed up, demanded trial and discovery, Mueller's team was completely unprepared and humiliated, and the judge sided with the defendants).
Then again Mueller's operation seems to operate free of the legal, professional, constitutional, and political constraints that face other investigations. Perhaps fitting, as it's an illegitimate criminal investigation magically emerging from a counter-intel investigation, created contrary to DOJ regs.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 08:55 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Egg McKristol at June 14, 2018 08:55 PM (Tyii7)
244 What's Supercuck's super power?
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at June 14, 2018 08:26 PM (
Bald wilting.
Posted by: eleven at June 14, 2018 08:31 PM (+lOpA)
To be bullied by Cap'n Bill.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General and his Electric Accordian Band! at June 14, 2018 08:56 PM (0QYMt)
This is a... troubling development, I'd say, no?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 14, 2018 08:56 PM (F5+ro)
He's getting abused by the lawyer for the Russian group he tried to prosecute. His "evidence" is proving to be a non-existent joke.
Mueller is probably not the go to guy to reference for successful prosecutions. Flynn is going to shove his guilty plea right up Mueller's ass now that he has access to all the evidence.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2018 08:56 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: kallisto at June 14, 2018 08:57 PM (dq4fo)
Good point. You would think it take this long for corrupt, incompetent criminal Robert Mueller to investigate open collaboration.
In that case he's even more incompetent than suspected.
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at June 14, 2018 08:57 PM (nBr1j)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2018 08:56 PM (/tuJf)
It's pretty hard to unplead guilty.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 14, 2018 08:57 PM (F5+ro)
partners are having fun torturing his office (the Russian internet
saboteurs case). Another motion filed today or yesterday, about
discovery. Haven't had time to check it out.
But I'm already wrong on that case. Was certain Mueller would drop
it after the debacle at arraignment (defendants showed up, demanded
trial and discovery, Mueller's team was completely unprepared and
humiliated, and the judge sided with the defendants).
Then again Mueller's operation seems to operate free of the legal,
professional, constitutional, and political constraints that face other
investigations. Perhaps fitting, as it's an illegitimate criminal
investigation magically emerging from a counter-intel investigation,
created contrary to DOJ regs.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 08:55 PM (QDnY+)
Yeah, but Mueller's a Republican!
According to that cretin Julian Epstein on Tucker a few minutes ago.
Posted by: LGoPs at June 14, 2018 08:57 PM (FWsqf)
Posted by: cumjeff at June 14, 2018 08:58 PM (Evws/)
fault. Well if it's Comey's fault, there doesn't need to be Russian
collusion to explain the Trump win.
Why can't the Dems take the explanation that gosh, mistakes were made?
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2018 08:54 PM (vDqXW)
I know people who will tell you with a straight face that Comey is also a Russian spy.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 14, 2018 08:58 PM (rnXGe)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 14, 2018 08:56 PM (F5+ro)
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But then again it upholds the 10-second tradition of the Independence of the DOJ!
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2018 08:58 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 14, 2018 08:58 PM (39g3+)
According to that cretin Julian Epstein on Tucker a few minutes ago.
Posted by: LGoPs at June 14, 2018 08:57 PM (FWsqf)
Fake News.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 14, 2018 08:58 PM (F5+ro)
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at June 14, 2018 08:59 PM (nBr1j)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 14, 2018 08:59 PM (nWc4E)
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a trial would bring political calamity to DeepState.
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Exceedingly unlikely. For example, when DeepState operators text things to each other that are obviously indicative of bias in the investigation they are involved with, the remedy recommended is to teach all investigators not to text on government phones.
Posted by: The DeepState owns you at June 14, 2018 08:59 PM (RVcmP)
Posted by: Crete at June 14, 2018 09:00 PM (nBr1j)
I recall that even in investigating the State/Clinton crimes, the IG had a problem in that they lacked enough personnel with sufficient clearances to deal with some the pertinent material. Which was tiny, tiny little hint to the thinking layman - hmm, the watchdog group investigating whether secrets were illegally placed in an unsecure environment don't even have the clearances to investigate the matter ..... looks like somebody violated the law!
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 09:00 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2018 08:58 PM (vDqXW)
Right, right. Well I don't remember when we decided to turn ultimate power in our country over to the federal police.
I guess that's the thing about a police state, though, isn't it? -- it just kind of appears. One day you're going to all kinds of fun "workers of the world unite!" parties, with music and girls and camaraderie and the next day the KGB is dragging you to the gulag.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 14, 2018 09:00 PM (F5+ro)
According to that cretin Julian Epstein on Tucker a few minutes ago.
*eye roll*
IIRC, the Mueller team member who is running this one is Rhee, who previously worked for - wait for it! - Clinton Foundation.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2018 09:01 PM (W+vEI)
Why can't the Dems take the explanation that gosh, mistakes were made?
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2018 08:54 PM (vDqXW)
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And they've been screaming that Trump was obstructing justice by firing Comey. Yet, he didn't fire him until after he got the letter from Rosenstein.
It's like watching a ping pong match.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 14, 2018 09:01 PM (PvFoN)
He hasn't been sentenced so he can make an application to retract his appeal.
But that would open him up to torturous prosecution by Mueller.
My gut says he's not going to retract.
Posted by: Kreplach at June 14, 2018 09:01 PM (UfMVm)
Not when you have Judge Emmet Sullivan overseeing the case. He has a thing about prosecutorial misconduct. He's really against it.
I wonder how he ended up on the case after Contreras was recused?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2018 09:02 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: ErikInTexas at June 14, 2018 08:55 PM (0EUAh)
Yup.....IHOP and Applebees are pure shit.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 14, 2018 09:02 PM (EoRCO)
President Trump and his supporters are the Rebel alliance.
Posted by: LGoPs at June 14, 2018 09:02 PM (FWsqf)
https://tinyurl.com/y9hgp5bx
Ugh ... she's the victim yet again! What a minefield we avoided thanks to PDT.
Posted by: ShainS at June 14, 2018 09:02 PM (BiLU+)
Mueller is probably not the go to guy to reference for successful prosecutions. Flynn is going to shove his guilty plea right up Mueller's ass now that he has access to all the evidence.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2018 08:56 PM (/tuJf)
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I'm read up on *all* of that. I know how *thin* Mueller's cases are growing. That's why I suspect he doesn't care about admissibility of evidence because Congress is not bound by rules of evidence. He just has to keep his investigation politically viable, so he can twist arms and raid homes and offices, trying to get that one piece of dirt that will impeach Trump.
That, I consider, is his game. He's got all sorts of "fruit of the poisoned tree" sitting around him. It doesn't matter.
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2018 09:03 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 08:35 PM (QDnY+)
Yes. He was an arrogant asshole. And I screamed that at him the whole time. He said he only cared about the 'opinions of those who knew him' or some such shit and then filibustered about how great a job the FBI was doing. WHAT!?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 14, 2018 09:03 PM (2CQCl)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 14, 2018 09:03 PM (r+sAi)
No, I don't use them any more.Posted by: andycanuck at June 14, 2018 09:03 PM (Evws/)
196 Somebody please hide me. Some time in the next hour or so I will talk to alexthechick and I will be forced, forced to tell her that I just saw Incredibles 2.
She will be disappointed by everything I have to say.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 14, 2018 08:18 PM (fuK7c)
Full confession, citizen. Your review or your Agonizer!
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at June 14, 2018 09:03 PM (e1mEI)
Posted by: Fapplebees Server at June 14, 2018 09:03 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 14, 2018 09:02 PM (EoRCO)
It's IHOb now.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 14, 2018 09:04 PM (F5+ro)
At this point, it really is time for select Hill creatures to unload on Wray and the FBI. They've been having a not so polite wrestling match, but the combo of this shameful cowardly IG report (which documents appalling lack of intelligence and professionalism in the FBI) and Wray's stunning presser really should be the last straw.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 09:04 PM (QDnY+)
*singing*
Being a cuck....
EX-sigh-TING and newwwww...
Come on my wiiiiiffe...
She's EX-Peck-Tinnnnng youuuuuuuuu...
It's the CUCK BOAT!
Posted by: Wild Bill Kristol at June 14, 2018 09:04 PM (v3DL/)
Posted by: Crete at June 14, 2018 09:04 PM (nBr1j)
Brian in NOLA makes a good point about the FISA IG investigation -
classification issues (ironic, huh?). Everything to do with FISA is
ultra-hush hush (though many more people now realize what b.s. so much
classification really is).
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FISA is as secret as it gets. CIA/NSA intel, SCI, code-word, etc... Just being read into all of those programs can take months. For how many investigators after their year-long initial clearance investigation?
And then what part of that "investigation" can be released to the public? Sources and methods, anyone? CIA/NSA could drag it out for a decade if they choose. And then who would trust a final report?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 14, 2018 09:05 PM (rnXGe)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 14, 2018 09:05 PM (nWc4E)
https://tinyurl.com/y9hgp5bx
Ugh ... she's the victim yet again! What a minefield we avoided thanks to PDT.
Posted by: ShainS at June 14, 2018 09:02 PM (BiLU+)
She is gonna pay for that shit some day. The report shows she is pretty much an idiot, she is off her rocker !
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 14, 2018 09:05 PM (M+Lyo)
It's like watching a ping pong match.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 14, 2018 09:01 PM (PvFoN)
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Well Rosenstein kind of set him up by saying that Trump wanted R to give him a reason to fire Comey, and Trump went full out on TV saying he wanted to.
It does seem to be all working against the left--but comfort with that requires time, which we probably won't have enough of with any sort of residual "blue wave" in November.
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2018 09:06 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: kallisto at June 14, 2018 09:07 PM (dq4fo)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 14, 2018 09:04 PM (F5+ro)
Oh yeah, I forgot. Hahahaha......it's gonna be IOUTOFBUSINESS soon.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 14, 2018 09:07 PM (EoRCO)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 14, 2018 09:07 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Crete at June 14, 2018 09:07 PM (nBr1j)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2018 08:56 PM (/tuJf)
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I don't think Mueller cares about the Flynn case falling apart. He has already ruined him financially through his "the process is the punishment" shit he has put him through in order to make him an example not to fuck with Mueller.
I hope Flynn can sue, and make back multiples of what spent on lawyers, but even that would not hurt that prick Mueller even one little bit financially.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 14, 2018 09:08 PM (I16G8)
As baffled as I am about Flynn's original plea, I'm extra puzzled as to why he might not go along with Judge Sullivan (who as JackStraw points out is the last federal judge alive you want on your case if you're a skeevy federal prosecutor) if it turns out the "case" is as dirty as we think it is.
Time will tell, but the Flynn case unraveling, with ramifications for many big names, is actually my dark horse candidate for actual prosecutions of vermin like Yates and a few others - though the FISA debacle seems like it would sweep the whole rogue's gallery up rather nicely, too.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 09:08 PM (QDnY+)
Me, too.
I figured he would at least say something such as, "I am stunned at some of the behavior by FBI agents in this report, and I can assure you that things will change."
Nope, he says nothing in the report impugns the agency as a whole, here's a list of some non sequitur list recent accomplishments, training blah blah blah. WTF?
Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2018 09:08 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 14, 2018 09:09 PM (FOPyv)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2018 08:56 PM (/tuJf)
I am so happy about that. The Flynn thing was outrageous. Just sickened me.
Posted by: platypus at June 14, 2018 09:09 PM (GVZIJ)
I think Flynn is following a legal strategy right now that is being driven largely by the fact that the DOJ has unlimited money to spend on this case and he has very finite money to spend.
It's not an uncommon method for prosecutors to try.
There are a lot of people who have taken a plea deal who probably would have won in front of a jury but just couldn't afford to get there.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 14, 2018 09:11 PM (F5+ro)
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 14, 2018 09:09 PM (FOPyv)
I wondered about that...did he go broke on his legal fees and lose his house? I wasn't able to closely follow at the time.
Posted by: platypus at June 14, 2018 09:11 PM (GVZIJ)
No one should be the least bit surprised an Actor would want to bring justice to someone who is openly collaborating with Negroes and Abolitionists. There could hardly be a more important role for an actor.
Posted by: Evan McMullin super cia spy, boy genius, brain of german shepherd at June 14, 2018 08:17 PM (9yPBp)
Take a bow
Posted by: Mega at June 14, 2018 09:11 PM (rv0Fo)
>>I hope Flynn can sue, and make back multiples of what spent on lawyers, but even that would not hurt that prick Mueller even one little bit financially.
If Flynn's case falls apart there is even less reason for Mueller to even have a job. He is the only person even remotely connected to Trump and Russia as weak as it is.
When Flynn's case crumbles that will be it for the Mueller investigation if it isn't over before. It's not about Mueller, it's about the left that put him in the job in the first place. Mueller is just their weapon.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2018 09:11 PM (/tuJf)
But Huber and Sessions and Trump might face a big decision here (which I think is easy, actually) - to finally go ahead, not letting such considerations limit the case, due to the importance of the principles and laws and crimes involved.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 09:12 PM (QDnY+)
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Flynn is going to shove his guilty plea right up Mueller's ass now that he has access to all the evidence.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2018 08:56 PM (/tuJf)
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This concept you have of this thing called "evidence" amuses us.
Posted by: The DeepState at June 14, 2018 09:12 PM (RVcmP)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 14, 2018 09:12 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 14, 2018 09:08 PM (I16G
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That's a good point. McCabe has done that to people too.
This is not your father's State, this is a new-school State. It raids the office of the personal counsel of a person EVERYBODY KNOWS is "under investigation", no matter how unofficial it is.
If Trump weren't under suspicion, why would firing Mueller implicate him? What could it implicate him in, if he can't be a target?
This is the doublethink that the left has trained themselves very well in. We have to avoid being sucked in. They raided the office of the personal counsel of the main target of Mueller's investigation--and once again, it won't matter because Congress has no evidentiary rules. If Mueller finds dirt--it become "serious" enough to impeach 45.
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2018 09:13 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: BEN ROTTENSPLOOGER at June 14, 2018 09:13 PM (j6XEO)
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Super enjoyment of the fact that he doesn't matter
Posted by: Mega at June 14, 2018 09:13 PM (rv0Fo)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 14, 2018 09:13 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 14, 2018 09:14 PM (cHVSG)
I figured he would at least say something such as, "I am stunned at some of the behavior by FBI agents in this report, and I can assure you that things will change."
Nope, he says nothing in the report impugns the agency as a whole, here's a list of some non sequitur list recent accomplishments, training blah blah blah. WTF?
Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2018 09:08 PM (W+vEI)
Right?!? I was expecting a Obama-type reaction to the IRS thing "These are very serious allegations, we will look in to it, and take this very seriously... " etc. etc. while mentally making the jack off hand sign.
This guy came out "well, some minor mistakes were made around the use of technology and a little bit of damage to our brand from false perceptions people had, but we don't care about your opinion. Oh, and I'm going to read some crime stats to you. Oh, and we're more exclusive than harvard. Oh, and we get a lot of interns. Also, don't care what the president, our boss, things about us. Or anyone else. Thanks, media!"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 14, 2018 09:14 PM (F5+ro)
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 09:15 PM (QDnY+)
NOT Flynn - I meant Rosenstein. Stupid Brain.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 14, 2018 09:13 PM (r+sAi)
The human brain is funny. I initially read that as "I met Rosenstein. Stupid Brain."
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 14, 2018 09:15 PM (ndTbZ)
Posted by: Crete at June 14, 2018 09:07 PM (nBr1j)
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And they might have seen Basic Instinct.
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2018 09:15 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: LGoPs at June 14, 2018 09:02 PM (FWsqf)
Tico!
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 14, 2018 09:15 PM (rnXGe)
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 09:16 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Rod Rosencrantz at June 14, 2018 09:17 PM (Tyii7)
I figured he would at least say something such as, "I am stunned at some of the behavior by FBI agents in this report, and I can assure you that things will change."
Nope, he says nothing in the report impugns the agency as a whole, here's a list of some non sequitur list recent accomplishments, training blah blah blah. WTF?
Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2018 09:08 PM (W+vEI)
Always best when people impugn themselves with their own words. Sounds like he did. Makes me wonder what audience he thought he was speaking to. I mean, I keep wondering about the behind the scenes machinations. Who is still talking to Obama, Holder and that cabal. Stuff like that occupies me when these things happen that seem so tone deaf. Where is he getting his advice.
Posted by: platypus at June 14, 2018 09:17 PM (GVZIJ)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 14, 2018 09:18 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Right Angles at June 14, 2018 08:49 PM (QviAd)
They need to be exposed to helicopter rides
Posted by: TheQuietMan
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What they need, what we need, and what we get are diametrically opposed.
Posted by: Right Angles at June 14, 2018 09:19 PM (QviAd)
Wray's thing today was actually one of the most troubling, and disastrous, developments in this whole saga - which is basically a tale of unending troubling and disastrous developments.
Will say it again - in what *possible* universe could his approach today seem other than disastrous? What do Sessions and Trump think of this? Wray's institution is ablaze, and he takes the occasion of a report documenting everyone's worst fears about it to say "our brand is fine".
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 09:19 PM (QDnY+)
Great point.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2018 09:19 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: BluesFish at June 14, 2018 09:20 PM (QSrx1)
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 09:21 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 14, 2018 09:12 PM (r+sAi)
Wait...what? Why am I feeling bad for Flynn then? I missed something.
Posted by: platypus at June 14, 2018 09:21 PM (GVZIJ)
Posted by: JAS at June 14, 2018 09:21 PM (3HNOQ)
Fascists.
They use raw power to expand their power and propaganda to justify it. They were hoping to use some sort of unconditional pledge to intelligence agencies to cow people from standing against them.
They're fascists.
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2018 09:22 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: Northernlurk, but call me Teem at June 14, 2018 09:22 PM (nBr1j)
Rosenstein is following the standard protocol, once and investigation or prosecutorial process has started, no matter how absurd, farcicle or corrupt, you cannot interfere with it or stop it until it's concluded.
Anything less and you can be accused of obstructing or tampering with it and can face possible leagal jeopardy.
It's similar to Trey "I suck deep state cock" Gowdy admonition of, "if you're not guilty, act like it."
There is simply no political or judicial remedy for what ailes us.
Posted by: Kreplach at June 14, 2018 09:22 PM (UfMVm)
platy, I corrected myself, I meant rosenstein not flynn.
Rhom - they are text messages in order, that one was specifically removed.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 14, 2018 09:23 PM (r+sAi)
We're Deplorable....check,
Retarded...check,
Uneducated, lazy POS...check
Well, at least they didn't call us poopy heads!
Posted by: lin-duh at June 14, 2018 09:24 PM (kufk0)
So that's nice. Just imagine the stuff we'll never see that was being sent around the DOJ/Nat Sec Div on this.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 09:24 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 09:19 PM (QDnY+)
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They only need a party line to hold against yours. I say that about the left, but it's not perhaps strictly the left, but some sort of commonality of motivations between the left and the state that wants to cover for itself.
And I'm not saying that they are all the same thing, yet. Just that they share dynamics.
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2018 09:25 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 14, 2018 09:25 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Mega at June 14, 2018 09:26 PM (rv0Fo)
That means that 1% is shit.
1% is 1,000,000 % too high.
The thing is, with all of there failures in recent years - Pulse, Parkland, etc. - there's a lot more than 1% who are bad. And if that 1+% is management, which it was, well that means the whole dang agency is bad. Any good agents in the field offices were/are no doubt aware that HQ is a CF, so there's no incentive to get promoted, frustration that you aren't being allowed to do your job effectively, and why bother staying? Can only imagine what morale has been, should there be any good agents still there.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2018 09:26 PM (W+vEI)
decision here (which I think is easy, actually) - to finally go ahead,
not letting such considerations limit the case, due to the importance of
the principles and laws and crimes involved.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 09:12 PM (QDnY+)
What authority does Huber or Sessions have over the intelligence community?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 14, 2018 09:28 PM (rnXGe)
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How difficult would it be to adapt a standard anti-bias training manual
to be about not having bias against conservatives? I'd imagine very
difficult. None of the "experts" in producing such manuals would want to
do it, and even if they did they wouldn't know how to argue for such a
position.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 14, 2018 09:25 PM
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Now tell us not to breathe.
Posted by: DeepStaters at June 14, 2018 09:28 PM (RVcmP)
The FBI is covering to maintain it's formal power and albeit fruitlessly, it's power through reputation. People fight for lost causes, after all.
The left is motivated to advance its politics. A stalemate is the best worst-case for a motivated liar.
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2018 09:29 PM (vDqXW)
We're Deplorable....check,
Retarded...check,
Uneducated, lazy POS...check
Well, at least they didn't call us poopy heads!
Posted by: lin-duh at June 14, 2018 09:24 PM (kufk0)
They made no mention of vodka soaked hobo-skinners.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 14, 2018 09:29 PM (ndTbZ)
Rhom - they are text messages in order, that one was specifically removed.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 14, 2018 09:23 PM (r+sAi)
Oh, thank goodness. I mean, I can only get whiplash so many times a day. Flynn was a scapegoat and collateral dammage iirc. Deserves to have his rep restored.
Also, interesting that something that was intentionally hidden was recently recovered...and that we know who scuppered it.
That is an incredibly damning text message. No matter what political bent you have, something like that should be really concerning to people. We are past politics and into foundational beliefs about free and fair elections, when this stuff gets said without consequence. Indicative of how far off course we drifted.
Posted by: platypus at June 14, 2018 09:30 PM (GVZIJ)
Atlanta Bob, pardon my ignorance , but voting aye on what?
Posted by: Ben Had at June 14, 2018 08:52 PM (cHVSG)
You already know you find out, after you vote on it, what it says.
Posted by: Nanzi Palzi at June 14, 2018 09:31 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 14, 2018 09:31 PM (ndTbZ)
Posted by: Ama at June 14, 2018 09:31 PM (ibMQY)
If there were a dispute about revealing info needed to prosecute a case, DOJ would butt heads with the IC - and the CiC would make the call, in the end.
Would still require Sessions/DOJ to make a big decision, contrary to the norm, to open the kimono a bit in order to prosecute a case. Doesn't mean final call would be DOJ's.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 09:32 PM (QDnY+)
decision, contrary to the norm, to open the kimono a bit in order to
prosecute a case. Doesn't mean final call would be DOJ's.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2018 09:32 PM (QDnY+)
CiC could've ordered CIA/NSA to release everything they had on the Russian Collusion BS 18 months ago. Yet here we are.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 14, 2018 09:33 PM (rnXGe)
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 14, 2018 09:35 PM (M+Lyo)
>>Yeah, but Mueller's a Republican!
According to that cretin Julian Epstein on Tucker a few minutes ago.
And Benedict Arnold was American.
Posted by: Nanzi Palzi at June 14, 2018 09:36 PM (UsCnO)
The thing is, with all of there failures in recent years - Pulse, Parkland, etc. - there's a lot more than 1% who are bad. And if that 1+% is management, which it was, well that means the whole dang agency is bad. Any good agents in the field offices were/are no doubt aware that HQ is a CF, so there's no incentive to get promoted, frustration that you aren't being allowed to do your job effectively, and why bother staying? Can only imagine what morale has been, should there be any good agents still there.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2018 09:26 PM (W+vEI)
I can no longer give them the benefit of the doubt. Any good agents would have spoken up by now.
The whole institution is rotten, and each and every employee is rotten. They're all just punching the clock and following orders until they retire and get that sweet pension.
Posted by: rickl at June 14, 2018 09:40 PM (sdi6R)
I'm going to be at the Colbert Show and I need to know.
I got it wrong last time.
Posted by: Clapping Seal at June 14, 2018 09:45 PM (0jtPF)
Ace- you misspelled 'inside'
Hope this isn't so late I get blocked
Posted by: WaitingForMartel at June 15, 2018 09:32 AM (TfoWT)
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In an exchange on August 6, 2016, Page forwarded Strzok a news article relating to Trump insulting the Kahns.
Page: Jesus. You should read this. And Trump should go f himself.
Strzok responded favorably to the article and added "And F Trump"
Page: So. This is not to take away from the unfairness of it all, but we are both deeply fortunate people.
Page: And maybe you're meant to stay where you are because you are meant to protect the country from that menace. To that end, read this: [link to a David Brooks column, about Trump's "enablers", who do not oppose him.]
Strzok: Thanks. It's absolutely true that we're both very fortunate. And of course I'll try and approach it that way. I just know it will be tough at times. I can protect our country at many levels,...
Posted by: Axeman at June 15, 2018 10:27 AM (vDqXW)
Affair my ass. It's emails, texts, and links. In a real affair there would be *some* acknowledgement of face-to-face interactions. I've yet to see one.
Posted by: Axeman at June 15, 2018 10:30 AM (vDqXW)
Knowing the markings used to indicate that material is classified is taught in the very first security briefing to newly-cleared personnel. There is no way Clinton - who as Secretary of State had Original Classification Authority - could not have known about them.
Those initial security briefings also make clear that the mention of information in the public sphere (via newspapers, radio, etc.) makes NO difference as to its classification. If someone leaks a piece of classified information to the press, it still remains classified until its pre-set declassification date unless someone with the authority to do so declassifies it earlier. Again, it is inconceivable that Clinton would have been unaware of this.
Posted by: Mike S at June 15, 2018 10:49 AM (rKn63)
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Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)