Judge: Bars Are Allowed to Throw Out Trump Supporters

But we're still required to bake the fucking cake, right?

I have no problem with this ruling. I'm just curious why our government is creating one caste with the right to refuse to serve people with whom they disagree, while creating another caste required to serve people with whom they disagree as if they were slaves.

Manhattan judge ruled Wednesday that there’s nothing "outrageous" about throwing the president’s supporters out of bars -- because the law doesn't protect against political discrimination.
Philadelphia accountant Greg Piatek, 31, was bounced from a West Village watering hole in January 2017, just after Trump took the oath of office, for wearing a "Make America Great Again" cap, according to his lawsuit over the incident.
"Anyone who supports Trump -- or believes in what you believe -- is not welcome here! And you need to leave right now because we won’t serve you!" Piatek claims the staff of The Happiest Hour on West 10th Street told him after he and his pals complained about the rude service they were getting from a bartender.

Good luck imposing your caste system on a nation founded on violent revolution over unequal political rights.

Oh, by the way: What if the guy wearing the MAGA hat refused to order beer and just wanted to sit at the table and use the bathroom while he waited for his financial adviser?

Same ruling?

Does it depend on his race, I wonder?

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 01:20 PM

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1 Does it depend on his race, I wonder?

Rhetorical, of course.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 26, 2018 01:13 PM (ujg0T)

2 >>Oh, by the way: What if the guy wearing the MAGA hat refused to order beer and just wanted to sit at the table and use the bathroom while he waited for his financial adviser?

Ah. Brilliant point.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 26, 2018 01:13 PM (F5+ro)

3 The lawyers will comment but I think it is based on those legally protected classes: race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, &c. Political affiliation is not listed.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at April 26, 2018 01:15 PM (aW5/6)

4 I don't see how we survive this without physical removal of totalitarians.

Posted by: Monk at April 26, 2018 01:15 PM (573j3)

5 I thought private establishments could decline service to anyone for any reason...
Oh, wait, that is the way things USED to be.

Posted by: backbeatbaby at April 26, 2018 01:16 PM (w7KSn)

6 As for baking a cake -- well, we're making "sexual orientation" and other immutable characteristics "protected classes" now. So ... there you go.

Barry Goldwater was called a nut (and a racist) for suggesting things like this would happen if he voted for the civil rights act of 1964. But thats where all this leads back.

"Public accommodations" (ahem) cannot, legally discriminate against "protect classes."

Both "public accommodations" and "protected classes" have done nothing but expand in definition for the past, whatever it is, 50+ years.

So here we are.

Religion = protected
Sexuality = protected
Political views = not protected.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 26, 2018 01:16 PM (F5+ro)

7 I suppose we'll all get upset over this now.

If you don't like disparate treatment maybe you should insist your alleged political party stands up for your rights.

oh right, the GOP is only tough when it comes to bombing people overseas. If they walk slowly though across the border, then we're morally obligated to treat them like princes because domestically the GOP only cares about helping banks avoid paying fees or their employees.

Posted by: Kuhyt at April 26, 2018 01:16 PM (Kuhyt)

8 My default is: fine.

As long as bars can also throw out people for supporting Hillary.

Wait? That can't happen?

Sue the shit out 'em, then.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 26, 2018 01:16 PM (aFMSC)

9 man, I hate that neuvo americanolia is making me sound like a zero hedge writer.

Posted by: Kuhyt at April 26, 2018 01:16 PM (Kuhyt)

10 The Happiest Hour doesn't seem to live up to its name.

Posted by: bluebell at April 26, 2018 01:16 PM (oMtOd)

11 We need a bar owner to throw out a white guy with a Hillary shirt and see what happens.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at April 26, 2018 01:17 PM (aW5/6)

12 They're better off not giving money to somebody who can't separate political opinions from the person anyways.

Doesn't mean the bar owner(s) and employees aren't shitheels for acting strictly on the above impulses though. Tolerance!

Posted by: Gaff at April 26, 2018 01:17 PM (jPS2y)

13 neuvo americomalia?

Posted by: Kuhyt at April 26, 2018 01:17 PM (Kuhyt)

14 Political blogger Bryan Sharpe, AKA "Hotep Jesus did that very thing at starbux after that recent incident. I think he should give it a go! Be fun to see!!!

Posted by: John Henry at April 26, 2018 01:17 PM (ZgAF6)

15 Basically the Constitution, Logic and Reason have become situational propositions.

At this point I'm fully in favor of instituting the spoils system where those in power have unchecked rule and latitude at least we'll have a shot at actually effecting the change we want.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 26, 2018 01:18 PM (2JcMg)

16 5 I thought private establishments could decline service to anyone for any reason...
Oh, wait, that is the way things USED to be.
Posted by: backbeatbaby at April 26, 2018 01:16 PM (w7KSn)

Eh... Not really.

We added the first asterisks during reconstruction after the civil war, and began greatly expanding those asterisks in the 1950's and 1960's and have continued to expand them to this day.

You think this shit is bad? Look up housing laws and what a landlord can and cant use to determine whether or not they want to enter in to a 12-month contract with someone by renting out an apartment.

You'd be sickened.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 26, 2018 01:18 PM (F5+ro)

17 OT
A girl has priorities.

https://tinyurl.com/ydd69998

Posted by: maddogg at April 26, 2018 01:18 PM (o2MD2)

18 some places do forbid this though. DC, for example. I think Cali too. Maybe NY just doesn't have these laws because they're in the money makin' and takin' business not the lobbyin' and politicking business.

Posted by: Kuhyt at April 26, 2018 01:18 PM (Kuhyt)

19

Oh, by the way: What if the guy wearing the MAGA hat refused to order
beer and just wanted to sit at the table and use the bathroom while he
waited for his financial adviser?

Same ruling?

Does it depend on his race, I wonder?
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Maybe Kanye West could try it.

With a film crew.

Posted by: Methos at April 26, 2018 01:19 PM (XQvuQ)

20 at least we'll have a shot at actually effecting the change we want."

An early gun thread?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 26, 2018 01:20 PM (7LY+6)

21 9. Slogan of Current Year. 'I'm not alt-right. But I will be.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 26, 2018 01:20 PM (fA1SL)

22 "You'd be sickened."

Probably why I am not a landlord...

Posted by: backbeatbaby at April 26, 2018 01:20 PM (w7KSn)

23 Fuck judges.

Posted by: Tony in Miami at April 26, 2018 01:20 PM (jjaLl)

24 But Fresno State professor's free speech is sacred, so she can't be fired.

Some pig's free speech is more equal than others.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 26, 2018 01:21 PM (W+vEI)

25 and the starbucks thing is really just a comparison showing how reactive right-wing media is and how cravenly stupid and cowardly globohomo is.

if right wing leaning media can't force their own issues and instead exists only to report on and mildly tsk-tsk the failing, sad, fakenews leftwing propaganda machine, then the nation will only know lefty talking points and their bizarre moral outrages of day.

Posted by: Kuhyt at April 26, 2018 01:21 PM (Kuhyt)

26 Another early day. Sebastian Gorka is substituting for Dennis Prager
http://player.tritondigital.com/1201

Posted by: Skip at April 26, 2018 01:21 PM (aC6Sd)

27 What if you wear a shirt that says:

Gays for Trump

or

Jews for Trump

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 26, 2018 01:21 PM (hMwEB)

28 Religion = protected
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You're funny

Posted by: Google ads at April 26, 2018 01:21 PM (XQvuQ)

29 New Rules: "Welcome to McThirsty's! Please state your political affiliation and what you'd like to drink."

Then when you don't like someone, out on their ass they go. No shirt, no shoes, no RightThink... no service.

So, Bakeries et al., before taking an order, get name, address, and political party.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 26, 2018 01:21 PM (H8S+R)

30 You see POLITICAL discrimination is okay.

Everything else, sexual orientation, race not okay.

Also Political discrimination is only okay if it is against Trump supporters because "icky". Its right there in the opinion.

It says and I quote "you can't say Vickie without saying Icky and Trump is a doodoo head".

Posted by: simplemind at April 26, 2018 01:21 PM (5Yll2)

31 "that's different"

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 26, 2018 01:21 PM (dL2qb)

32 Maybe NY just doesn't have these laws because they're in the money makin' and takin' business not the lobbyin' and politicking business."

Here, hold my Beer.

Posted by: Zombie Robert Moses at April 26, 2018 01:21 PM (7LY+6)

33 I thought private establishments could decline service to anyone for any reason...

Oh, wait, that is the way things USED to be.

Posted by: backbeatbaby at April 26, 2018 01:16 PM (w7KSn)

Right but the exceptions are Ghey, mooslimb, trannie,liberal,progressive.
Keep it straight wingnut.

Posted by: Timon at April 26, 2018 01:21 PM (NTM5E)

34 I have no problem with this ruling.

I'm just curious why our government is creating one caste with the right to refuse to serve people with whom they disagree, while creating another caste required to serve people with whom they disagree as if they were slaves.

Which is exactly why I have a problem with this case.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 26, 2018 01:22 PM (2ifxQ)

35 Barry Goldwater was called a nut (and a racist) for suggesting things like this would happen if he voted for the civil rights act of 1964. But thats where all this leads back.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 26, 2018 01:16 PM (F5+ro)

I believe he was told "Geez man, shall we all just run around with our hair on fire, now ?"

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 26, 2018 01:22 PM (fiGNd)

36 Was wishing a Starbucks was nearby as the job I ws on had no water, would have went in just to wash up for lunch.

Posted by: Skip at April 26, 2018 01:22 PM (aC6Sd)

37 So I assume Kanye would be ejected from this bar?

Posted by: redridinghood at April 26, 2018 01:22 PM (PvFoN)

38 6 As for baking a cake -- well, we're making "sexual orientation" and other immutable characteristics "protected classes" now. So ... there you go.

Barry Goldwater was called a nut (and a racist) for suggesting things like this would happen if he voted for the civil rights act of 1964. But thats where all this leads back.

"Public accommodations" (ahem) cannot, legally discriminate against "protect classes."

Both "public accommodations" and "protected classes" have done nothing but expand in definition for the past, whatever it is, 50+ years.

So here we are.

Religion = protected
Sexuality = protected
Political views = not protected.

Lurker here. Not sure if anyone cares, but in some states political affiliation is also a protected class - Illinois is one of them.

Posted by: Isolden at April 26, 2018 01:22 PM (z0De4)

39 Anyone who supports ~~Trump~~ Hillary/Obama -- or believes in what you believe -- is not
welcome here! And you need to leave right now because we won't serve
you!

Just trying it out. Same thing, right?

Posted by: t-bird at April 26, 2018 01:22 PM (2z74n)

40 You think this shit is bad? Look up housing laws and what a landlord can
and cant use to determine whether or not they want to enter in to a
12-month contract with someone by renting out an apartment.

You'd be sickened.
...

Pikers.

Posted by: (in)Human Resources at April 26, 2018 01:22 PM (2wOtx)

41 9. Slogan of Current Year. 'I'm not alt-right. But I will be.'"

---the sad useless right doesn't understand that being sneered at is part of life. "oh...some lefty is mad, I better pipe down".

The left calls based folks alt-right now and I'm sure King George's crew had their sneers "yankee doodle dandy" and all that.

why not sneer back and call these asshole traitors the xenophile treasonous nutbags they are?

Posted by: Kuhyt at April 26, 2018 01:23 PM (Kuhyt)

42 Forgot to add Race, if non-white

Posted by: Timon at April 26, 2018 01:23 PM (NTM5E)

43 Religion = protected

Sexuality = protected

Political views = not protected.
=====

Don't think that religion is protected any more, if it is Christianity or Judaism.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 26, 2018 01:23 PM (MIKMs)

44 The be frank, the plaintiffs attorney made some stupid argument about liking Trump being a religion. I believe that is why he lost.

Posted by: Marcus T, AGM-114 at April 26, 2018 01:23 PM (FIEUz)

45 I like how ace brought up the Starbucks thing. Really the current cultural problems are about race, at least to leftists. They see Trump supporters as "pro-white." That's why the whole gay cake thing is fascinating, especially when viewed in the context of the lefts tolerance for homophobic Islam...yep it's race.

By the way, Muslims are the last victim group "allowed" to have homophobic views. You're seeing pressure on straight black men to get in line with the whole gay tolerance thing, and guess what? It's working.

Posted by: Max Power at April 26, 2018 01:23 PM (q177U)

46 Straight, male, and white?

Yeah, the law is not there for your protection. Similar to Zimbabwe or South Africa.

Posted by: trev006 at April 26, 2018 01:23 PM (OMTTb)

47 What if you wear a shirt that says:

Gays for Trump

or

Jews for Trump
Posted by: votermom

Goat Fuckers for Trump.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 26, 2018 01:23 PM (2ifxQ)

48 You should see Diamond and Silk. They're ripping 'em a new one.

You should also see the House Negroes defending Massa Zuckerberg's right to censor black women. They're trying to paint Diamond and Silk as mere money-grubbers in order to discredit them. It's the most disgusting thing I've seen all day.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 26, 2018 01:23 PM (Ndje9)

49 Pastafarians for Trump

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 26, 2018 01:24 PM (hMwEB)

50 Its not 'government ' per say, its Leftist judges who overrule the President, allow discrimination against conservatives and stop states from requiring ID's to vote.

Posted by: Skip at April 26, 2018 01:24 PM (aC6Sd)

51 Pastafarians for Trump

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 26, 2018 01:24 PM (hMwEB)

Jedi for Trump...

Posted by: Timon at April 26, 2018 01:24 PM (NTM5E)

52 standing still and becoming alt-right

Posted by: TANSTAASFL at April 26, 2018 01:25 PM (Wa5hI)

53 I could support these types of rulings if the other side was getting them as well.

But the Left always gets a side issue in there like homosexuality, when really this about making your enemy bend the knee.

I will say though I don't think the "bake my cake" case will go in the Left's direction, but I would never test that ruling if I owned a business.

Posted by: Maritime at April 26, 2018 01:25 PM (lKmt3)

54 @25

There is no right wing media.

All media is either advancing a left wing agenda or reacting to the advancement of the left wing agenda.

So called "Right-Wing" media advances nothing.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 26, 2018 01:25 PM (2JcMg)

55 Any notion of protected class is BS IMO.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 26, 2018 01:25 PM (mk7Bj)

56 3 The lawyers will comment but I think it is based on those legally protected classes: race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, &c. Political affiliation is not listed."

Correct, but one clarification - recent decisions have been supporting the interpretation that sexual orientation is protected, but the original law this is based on - the Civil Rights Act of 1964 - actually just says "sex", which at the time was taken to mean gender. It's a subtle shift in meaning that the left has been pushing in legal circles for the last 20 or 30 years.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 26, 2018 01:25 PM (k1TUh)

57 the plaintiffs attorney made some stupid argument about liking Trump being a religion."

Yeah, saw some of that as well... thought "WTF" is this about?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 26, 2018 01:25 PM (7LY+6)

58 Just trying it out. Same thing, right?
=======
Except the Hillary Obama supporters are gay, black, trannies, of muslim belief. see how that works now?

Rules Yah1 As long as they don't discomfort me and work solely against you!!

Posted by: simplemind at April 26, 2018 01:25 PM (tN3p9)

59 Aaaaaand Chelsea Manning announces he's running for Senate.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 26, 2018 01:25 PM (W+vEI)

60 "... just curious why our government is creating one caste with the right to refuse to serve people with whom they disagree, while creating another caste required to serve people with whom they disagree as if they were slaves..."

Because they can. And they think they can get away with it due to the judiciary's imprimatur. That second full sentence is where the rubber will meet the road.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 26, 2018 01:25 PM (KssKs)

61 ...because the law doesn't protect against political discrimination.

_____________________

There's the weakness in your argument. The law does, however, protect against discrimination based on religion. The Courts twist this around to suggest that baking a cake for a gay couple is a discrimination of their religion when, in fact, it is the exact opposite. It is the religion of the cake bakers that is actually violated by forcing them to ignore their tenants.

Were these cake bakers smart, they would specifically state that they won't bake said cake because it is contrary to their political beliefs...this nitwit judge just gave them that opportunity.
Cheers

Posted by: Orson at April 26, 2018 01:25 PM (HbiNB)

62 James Comey is SUPER worried that this country is no longer a place of the rule of law.

SUPER worried.

Posted by: blaster at April 26, 2018 01:25 PM (Z5y53)

63 Good thing the GOP is in control of Congress and is helping Trump appoint judges.

oh, wait...

Posted by: Tanner Boyle at April 26, 2018 01:26 PM (2wOtx)

64 So - we can start throwing Hillary supporters out of bars then? Good to know. Can we use the "bum's rush" method, or the "seat of the pants approach?"

Posted by: Publius Redux at April 26, 2018 01:26 PM (Fb9aZ)

65 "Manhattan judge ruled Wednesday that there's nothing "outrageous" about throwing the president's supporters out of bars - because the law doesn't protect against political discrimination."

So that caravan of people at the border claiming 'political asylum' are right out?

Posted by: Tami at April 26, 2018 01:26 PM (Enq6K)

66 It's even worse than it seems at first glance. The original rule applied to public accommodations, e.g. hotels or restaurants, like, oh, I don't know, a lunch counter at Woolworths. A cake shop is a rather long reach from that. Furthermore, nobody asked the people at the bar to repeat "MAGA".

As Ace said, this ruling is correct, IMHO, but I see no way to reconcile it with the previous ruling. None.

Posted by: pep at April 26, 2018 01:26 PM (wW03z)

67 Now if you could just find 50 other MAGA hat wearers in Manhatten to all show up and go in and just sit there taking all the seats and then taking forever to order....

I know...finding 50 others would be an issue.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 26, 2018 01:27 PM (0tfLf)

68 Stomped:
Karie Couric is now reduced to interviewing sex robots. get this: she interviewed a lesbian sex robot*. And the robot hit on her big time.
Daily Caller

*Yeah, I'd hit it. After a bit of re-coding...

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 26, 2018 01:27 PM (ty7RM)

69 48 You should see Diamond and Silk. They're ripping 'em a new one.

==

I saw clip, Shirley Jackspn Lee I think,
"you said on Ingraham's show that FB never contacted you then you say now that they did via twitter. So you lied"

then she keeps interrupting them when they say the tv show was Aprl 11 and the Twitter msg was April 12

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 26, 2018 01:27 PM (hMwEB)

70 Aaaaaand Chelsea Manning announces he's running for Senate.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 26, 2018 01:25 PM (W+vEI)

Running as a donkey in Maryland. Some blue on blue fun on the way. Pass the popcorn!

Posted by: Timon at April 26, 2018 01:27 PM (NTM5E)

71 Oh, by the way: What if the guy wearing the MAGA hat refused to order beer and just wanted to sit at the table and use the bathroom while he waited for his financial adviser?

Same ruling?

Does it depend on his race, I wonder?

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 01:20 PM

We need a Consequences app for Android and iPhone. You input certain information--race, age, sex, orientation, politics, current location--and the app will tell you what you can and cannot do without getting tossed out/sued/shot. Gold mine for an ambitious developer. Sort of a tip calculator for a litigious society.

Posted by: joncelli, going phalangist at April 26, 2018 01:27 PM (RD7QR)

72 So the cake baker hands a list of lefty political positions to the gay couple to fill out.

If any are answered wrong the baker can tell the fags to get the fuck out.

That's the kind of mean the left likes, richtig?

Posted by: torabora at April 26, 2018 01:27 PM (Y274z)

73 41. That's what makes the slogan work. First - anything officially disapproved of by the mediocre elite is automatically tagged as alt-right. Then the Deplorables look around and so, yeah, I guess you're right. Now what? They're forging the iron rod for their own backs, the cuckstablishment is.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 26, 2018 01:27 PM (fA1SL)

74 Aaaaaand Chelsea Manning announces he's running for Senate.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 26, 2018 01:25 PM (W+vEI)

Again?

This is old news.

Ben Cardin is NOT an old white guy trying to put down a transgender in this case.

Shut up, that's why.

Posted by: blaster at April 26, 2018 01:27 PM (Z5y53)

75 Aaaaaand Chelsea Manning announces he's running for Senate.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 26, 2018 01:25 PM (W+vEI)

"I'M WITH IT"

Posted by: Tony in Miami at April 26, 2018 01:27 PM (jjaLl)

76

https://tinyurl.com/y9rga7jb

Posted by: maddogg at April 26, 2018 01:27 PM (o2MD2)

77 You should see Diamond and Silk. They're ripping 'em a new one.

You should also see the House Negroes defending Massa Zuckerberg's right to censor black women. They're trying to paint Diamond and Silk as mere money-grubbers in order to discredit them. It's the most disgusting thing I've seen all day.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 26, 2018 01:23 PM (Ndje9)
***********************

Where is this being shown?

Posted by: redridinghood at April 26, 2018 01:27 PM (PvFoN)

78 I know...finding 50 others would be an issue."

Sodom?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 26, 2018 01:28 PM (7LY+6)

79 Is a fucking cake anything like a king cake?

Posted by: freaked at April 26, 2018 01:28 PM (KvWlw)

80 They're forging the iron rod for their own backs, the cuckstablishment is.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 26, 2018 01:27 PM (fA1SL)

A wise dude once told me to NEVER forge a rod for your own back.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 26, 2018 01:28 PM (fiGNd)

81 I believe businesses should have the right to refuse service for any reason or no reason.Of course we know this isn't a two way street.

Posted by: steevy at April 26, 2018 01:28 PM (LiyEm)

82 Addendum: Incidentally, this is absolutely BAD LAW. It is applicable across the spectrum. For example...an employer who would not provide birth control based on religious beliefs can no say...my political beliefs are why I won't do it...

This gets overturned if anyone challenges it. BAD LAW (capitals warranted).

Posted by: Orson at April 26, 2018 01:28 PM (HbiNB)

83 You should see Diamond and Silk. They're ripping 'em a new one.

You should also see the House Negroes defending Massa Zuckerberg's
right to censor black women. They're trying to paint Diamond and Silk as
mere money-grubbers in order to discredit them. It's the most
disgusting thing I've seen all day.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 26, 2018 01:23 PM (Ndje9)
=====
The few highlights I have seen on youtube with Reps Johnson (Guam will tip over) and Jackson-Lee (braided hair hat) are so condescending and awful that I am rooting for those ladies.
BTW, their own youtube feed was cut off.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 26, 2018 01:28 PM (MIKMs)

84 Maybe NY just doesn't have these laws because they're in the money makin' and takin' business not the lobbyin' and politicking business."

Aren't those two businesses basically one and the same now?

Posted by: Sun-Tzu's Shih-Tzu at April 26, 2018 01:28 PM (4tV+0)

85 59 Aaaaaand Chelsea Manning announces he's running for Senate.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 26, 2018 01:25 PM (W+vEI)

If I were his opponent, I'd run on making him finish the remaining 23 years on his prison term.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 26, 2018 01:29 PM (9TK8E)

86 There not going to like the throwing out when it really gets going.

Posted by: DaveA at April 26, 2018 01:29 PM (FhXTo)

87 31
"that's different"

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 26, 2018 01:21 PM (dL2qb)

"THAT'S DIFFERENT"

Posted by: Samantha Bee at April 26, 2018 01:29 PM (ymnmz)

88 (something, something) Wise transexula!! (something, something)

Posted by: Obumbles at April 26, 2018 01:29 PM (ty7RM)

89 "They're trying to paint Diamond and Silk as mere money-grubbers..."

I read where Zuck had donated to Congress (D) persons on said committee an average of $640,000.

Each.

Posted by: backbeatbaby at April 26, 2018 01:30 PM (w7KSn)

90 I know...finding 50 others would be an issue."

Forty and five?

Forty?

....

Ten?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 26, 2018 01:30 PM (7LY+6)

91 Trump on His Presidency Grade: 'I Would Give Myself an A+'

I dunno about the + but I'd give him an A. And Obozo an F-.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 26, 2018 01:30 PM (+y/Ru)

92 As Ace said, this ruling is correct, IMHO, but I see no way to reconcile it with the previous ruling. None.
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Repeal the civil rights act as it serves no legitimate purpose.

Posted by: Methos at April 26, 2018 01:30 PM (XQvuQ)

93 You wanna go where nobody wants to Make America Great Again.

Posted by: Norm! at April 26, 2018 01:30 PM (FhXTo)

94 The Gipper Lives: "They're trying to paint Diamond and Silk as mere money-grubbers in order to discredit them."

Profit from the YouTube platform? Why, I'm appalled. Google/Alphabet, are you as appalled as I am about this development? Were you aware that YouTube is a profit scheme? APPALLED, I am!

Posted by: Congressional Plantation Oversight Committee at April 26, 2018 01:31 PM (H8S+R)

95 90. Heh..... I know that I am but dust and ashes, but what if we should find even one MAGA man in the city?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 26, 2018 01:31 PM (fA1SL)

96 I would like to believe the guy's entire story but there are some facts that contradict what he claims. Regardless it's the judge's ruling that is asinine. A political affiliation could be considered a creed. It doesn't necessarily have to be a religious faith.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 26, 2018 01:31 PM (n1b3L)

97 So if someone was kicked out of a bar for wearing an Obama hat I'm sure the judge would have ruled the same way. Because we know our black robed masters are so fair and impartial

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 26, 2018 01:31 PM (s4Be0)

98 When the Progressives back down on their lawfare ... I'll start giving a shit about things like Intellectual Consistency again.

Until then ... screw this ruling.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 26, 2018 01:32 PM (fiGNd)

99 65
"Manhattan judge ruled Wednesday that there's nothing "outrageous" about
throwing the president's supporters out of bars - because the law
doesn't protect against political discrimination."

So that caravan of people at the border claiming 'political asylum' are right out?

Posted by: Tami at April 26, 2018 01:26 PM (Enq6K)

THATS DIFFERENT!

Posted by: Samantha Bee at April 26, 2018 01:32 PM (ymnmz)

100 Diamond and Silk Destroy Rep. Johnson at Media Hearing in Washington April 26, 2018

On YouTube--til YouTube decides to censor them, too.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 26, 2018 01:32 PM (Ndje9)

101 Were you aware that YouTube is a profit scheme?"

So the intertubes can make money? Like with a press?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 26, 2018 01:32 PM (7LY+6)

102 This gets overturned if anyone challenges it. BAD LAW (capitals warranted).
Posted by: Orson at April 26, 2018 01:28 PM (HbiNB)

****

This isn't about *law*. This is about power. Anybody who thinks that just exposing a logical inconsistency is going to make the left change their ways is in for a serious disappointment.

Did pointing out media bias make them change their ways?

Nope.

Same is and will continue to happen with the *law*.

Posted by: Taco Shack at April 26, 2018 01:32 PM (C+qQ0)

103 Christian nationalism when?

Posted by: Monk at April 26, 2018 01:32 PM (573j3)

104 >>>They're forging the iron rod for their own backs

In many ways this is the story of Obama.

Posted by: Max Power at April 26, 2018 01:33 PM (q177U)

105 44 The be frank, the plaintiffs attorney made some stupid argument about liking Trump being a religion. I believe that is why he lost.
Posted by: Marcus T, AGM-114 at April 26, 2018 01:23 PM (FIEUz)

That was literally the only possible legal argument he could make, silly as it sounds.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 26, 2018 01:33 PM (F5+ro)

106 Tucker Carlson: 'You'd Have to Be a Moron' to Believe Joy Reid's Claim Her Blog Was 'Hacked'

Hey! Watch your language. And your facts.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 26, 2018 01:33 PM (+y/Ru)

107 The difference is of course wether you are part of a "protected group" or not. And its not like this "protected group"-caste garbage popped up just yesterday. Its another progressive infestation that has been around for quite a while now and which was just accepted or ignored by the useless trash parade that some gentle souls still call the Republican Party.

Posted by: Nurse Ratched at April 26, 2018 01:33 PM (9/RHA)

108
Judge Barbara Sue Jones, former United States District Judge of the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York was just appointed Special Master for the documents seized from Cohen's office.

YAY!!!!

On the recommendation of Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Jones was nominated to the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York by President Bill Clinton on October 18, 1995

YAY!!!!

Posted by: Tanner Boyle - and so it goes at April 26, 2018 01:33 PM (2wOtx)

109 This isn't about *law*. This is about power.

Posted by: Taco Shack at April 26, 2018 01:32 PM (C+qQ0)

You should listen to this Moron. You might learn a thing or two.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 26, 2018 01:34 PM (fiGNd)

110 Youtube can demonetize your videos with no reason any time they feel like it.

Posted by: steevy at April 26, 2018 01:34 PM (LiyEm)

111 104 >>>They're forging the iron rod for their own backs

In many ways this is the story of Obama.
Posted by: Max Power at April 26, 2018 01:33 PM (q177U)

Well, to be fair, he did forge his birth certificate.

Posted by: Roy at April 26, 2018 01:34 PM (7n4KQ)

112 >>So that caravan of people at the border claiming 'political asylum' are right out?

Threadwinner!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 26, 2018 01:34 PM (W+vEI)

113 103. Well, I sure as shit didn't convert to a Crusading faith to get pushed around in my own goddamned homeland by a buncha degenerates, heretics, and foreigners. I'd say 'soon.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 26, 2018 01:35 PM (fA1SL)

114 If I owned a bar, I would decorate the inside with animal trophies and beautiful photographs of tanks and guns, and all the bar staff would be pretty with excellent figures, and rap would be outlawed on the juke box, and I'd play the Star Spangled Banner at closing time to get the drunks to stand up and head on out the door, and I wouldn't enforce California's draconian smoking laws, and no Hilary supporters would be caught dead in my bar.

Posted by: kathysaysso at April 26, 2018 01:35 PM (vkS2Z)

115 Could someone point me to the part of the Constitution where it says "Because we say so, that's why! SHUT UP H8R!" in Thomas Jefferson's handwriting?

Posted by: pookysgirl at April 26, 2018 01:35 PM (XKZwp)

116 Youtube can keep the ad revenue from your videos"

FIFY

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 26, 2018 01:35 PM (7LY+6)

117 so if I had a shirt with God Emperor Donald Trump... not saying I do...

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at April 26, 2018 01:35 PM (NqyM4)

118 That was literally the only possible legal argument he could make, silly as it sounds.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 26, 2018 01:33 PM (F5+ro)

I disagree since I think creed can be any set of beliefs that guides one's life and not necessarily a religious faith.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 26, 2018 01:35 PM (n1b3L)

119 OT. Comey on Andy Poopers show. (I'll actually credit Anderson a bit here. Anderson asked if it was o.k. to leak an internal FBI memo, even if it wasn't classified. Comey responded.

"I didn't leak memos. I asked a friend to communicate the substance of one unclassified memo to the media."

Unfreaking real. Fake but accurate Jim? The meaning of the word "is". He said it with a straight face too. Oh well you didn't leak it, you just gave it to someone else to leak at your behest. Well why didn't you say so Jimmy, were all good then. SMDH.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 26, 2018 01:35 PM (EDSlc)

120
So you can refuse to bake the cake for political reasons? ok then.

Ask the gays if they are democrats I guess.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 26, 2018 01:35 PM (r+sAi)

121 Most white men under 30 in America have experienced two relentless things:

1. Being constantly discriminated against due to their race and gender; losing out on educational opportunities and jobs due to "affirmative action" and quotas and just flat-out unapologetic casual bigotry against them at every level of society.

2. Being constantly slandered as possessing "white privilege:" and "male privilege," as if they were benefitted from some still-extant "old boys' network" of backslapping white guys who due each other favors and who control society.

Except young American white men not only have NEVER experienced one second of "privilege," all they're ever experienced is anti-privilege, and outrageous mistreatment as untouchables at the lowest rung of the social ladder.

Something's gotta give.

Something's going to explode, actually.

The pressure is building, a pressure of resentment and anger and a deep sense of getting the short end of the stick.

Posted by: zombie at April 26, 2018 01:35 PM (42M22)

122 11 We need a bar owner to throw out a white guy with a Hillary shirt and see what happens.
Posted by: Brunnhilde at April 26, 2018 01:17 PM (aW5/6)

He would just be asked to sashay out.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at April 26, 2018 01:36 PM (nBr1j)

123 The be frank, the plaintiffs attorney made some stupid argument about liking Trump being a religion. I believe that is why he lost.

Posted by: Marcus T, AGM-114 at April 26, 2018 01:23 PM (FIEUz)

Not the first time I've seen this rationale this week ... in response to why a Judge screwed the Public on a case. Also was referenced to the latest DACA screw job.

Is this going to be the latest defense of the Corrupt Judiciary ? Bad Lawyers ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 26, 2018 01:36 PM (fiGNd)

124 I disagree since I think creed can be any set of beliefs that guides one's life and not necessarily a religious faith.

I believe we call that an opinion.

Posted by: pep at April 26, 2018 01:36 PM (wW03z)

125 Would the bar be able to kick an atheist out of a public business?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 26, 2018 01:36 PM (n1b3L)

126 Posted by: mustbequantum at April 26, 2018 01:28 PM (MIKMs)
********************

Gateway Pundit has funny video of Sheila Jackson Lee grilling Diamond and Silk.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 26, 2018 01:36 PM (PvFoN)

127 105. Are you saying Donny Two Scoops isn't Donaldus Rex, God-Emperor?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 26, 2018 01:36 PM (fA1SL)

128 "Diamond and Silk Destroy Rep. Johnson at Media Hearing in Washington April 26, 2018 "

IT'S A MADHOUSE! A MADHOUSE!

Posted by: Zombie Charleton Heston at April 26, 2018 01:36 PM (OD2ni)

129 Can Random Homeless Guy use Hawaii Judge's personal restroom?

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 26, 2018 01:36 PM (Ndje9)

130 due = do

Posted by: zombie at April 26, 2018 01:36 PM (42M22)

131 "Anyone who supports Trump -- or believes in what you believe -- is not welcome here! And you need to leave right now because we won't serve you!" Piatek claims the staff of The Happiest Hour on West 10th Street told him after he and his pals complained about the rude service they were getting from a bartender.

His mistake was not suing for false advertising with a name like that.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Sarah Palin's uterus is my Sarah Palin's uterus at April 26, 2018 01:36 PM (yQpMk)

132 so, would be ok to throw out a patron wearing obama and clinton paraphernalia ? sounds good to me.

Posted by: runner at April 26, 2018 01:36 PM (bUjCl)

133 kathysaysso, I might ask for an exception for Sir Mix A Lot

agreed that Snoop Doggy Dogg can get bent

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at April 26, 2018 01:37 PM (NqyM4)

134 Democrats trying to paint Diamond and Silk as money-grubbers? Hypocrisy is stunning coming from Congressional Pigs at the Trough.

Posted by: Cheri at April 26, 2018 01:37 PM (oiNtH)

135 Posted by: pep at April 26, 2018 01:36 PM (wW03z)

Yeah it's an opinion and also a definition in Webster's.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 26, 2018 01:37 PM (n1b3L)

136 Now if you could just find 50 other MAGA hat wearers in Manhatten to all show up and go in and just sit there taking all the seats and then taking forever to order....

I know...finding 50 others would be an issue.
Posted by: Diogenes

Either bus them in or hire 50 smelly stinkin hobos.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 26, 2018 01:37 PM (2ifxQ)

137 "Good luck imposing your caste system on a nation founded on violent revolution over unequal political rights."

Yeah, the folks on the Right who have stood by and done nothing at every increase in government control, every expansion of socialism, and the reduction of every right are just gonna suddenly up and go all John Woo. If someone wasn't an outlaw yesterday, and isn't one today, the odds are overwhelmingly good that they won't be one tomorrow.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 26, 2018 01:37 PM (rznWS)

138 66 It's even worse than it seems at first glance. The original rule applied to public accommodations, e.g. hotels or restaurants, like, oh, I don't know, a lunch counter at Woolworths. A cake shop is a rather long reach from that. Furthermore, nobody asked the people at the bar to repeat "MAGA".

As Ace said, this ruling is correct, IMHO, but I see no way to reconcile it with the previous ruling. None.
Posted by: pep at April 26, 2018 01:26 PM (wW03z)

Public accommodation now basically means anywhere where the public is welcome.

Loonnnng line of supreme court cases on this all the way back to the Heart of Atlanta Motel and the barbecue place case, etc.

And, to be real here -- "protected classes" have basically grown to include everyone EXCEPT straight white men. The only tiny sliver of an avenue straight white men have is to claim religious discrimination, but that argument almost(?) never works. Ask the pastafarians.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 26, 2018 01:38 PM (F5+ro)

139

JUST GIT OUT FOADDY-FI!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at April 26, 2018 01:38 PM (mPeei)

140 In an actual functioning free society, a bar owner should be able to toss ANYBODY's ass for ANY REASON WHATSOEVER.

I hate your skin!

I hate your sexual preference!

I hate your shoes!

I hate Thursdays!

And the shop owner should not be surprised when his business fails.

In a "free" society. Which we most certainly are not.

Posted by: anner Boyle at April 26, 2018 01:38 PM (2wOtx)

141 It would be fun to open a bar in Manhattan, and then to require anyone entering to swear a loyalty oath to Donald Trump, while saluting his 10 foot tall statue.

And then have real cheap drinks and lots of girls inside.

Libs would want to sneak in, but there's no way they could make themselves do it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 26, 2018 01:38 PM (k1TUh)

142 "I didn't leak memos. I asked a friend to communicate the substance of one unclassified memo to the media."

Isn't giving it to your friend leaking?

Posted by: Grump928(C) Sarah Palin's uterus is my Sarah Palin's uterus at April 26, 2018 01:38 PM (yQpMk)

143 If bars and pubs are now to be divided along political lines I can't imagine any Moron actually wanting to hang out with a bunch of lefties. Why would I want to do that?

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at April 26, 2018 01:38 PM (nBr1j)

144 Yeah it's an opinion and also a definition in Webster's.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

Just pointing out that anyone with an opinion is now a protected class. Good to know. Should come in handy.

Posted by: pep at April 26, 2018 01:39 PM (wW03z)

145 Radio this morning a woman called in saying a public elementary school had anti NRA and Republican signs posted inside on the walls, made by the little urchins going to the Leftist seminary..

Posted by: Skip at April 26, 2018 01:39 PM (aC6Sd)

146 131. Zombie Lionel Hutt concurs. It'd be his strongest case since the suit against the producers of 'The Never-Ending Story.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 26, 2018 01:39 PM (fA1SL)

147 @119

That's a lie straight up.

He literally gave/transmitted five memos to his friend.

Indictments better be in the crossing the I's and dotting the T's phase for this piece of shit motherfucker.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 26, 2018 01:39 PM (2JcMg)

148 the best - throw out patrons wearing peace sign teeshirts; or those displaying coexist stickers on cars

Posted by: runner at April 26, 2018 01:39 PM (bUjCl)

149 dammit.

low T.

Posted by: Tanner Boyle at April 26, 2018 01:39 PM (2wOtx)

150 142 He have it to his lawyer!Well the guy now claims attorney client privilege....

Posted by: steevy at April 26, 2018 01:39 PM (LiyEm)

151 Public accommodation now basically means anywhere where the public is welcome.

Except bars, apparently.

Posted by: pep at April 26, 2018 01:40 PM (wW03z)

152 "I didn't leak memos. I asked a friend to communicate the substance of one unclassified memo to the media."

Prof. Richman was also given top secret clearance to NSA files to do "special projects" for Comey.

I forget--is he still Comey's attorney, too?

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 26, 2018 01:40 PM (Ndje9)

153 Damn rednecks stirring up trouble.

Tennessee Set to Erect Monument to Victims of Abortion

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 26, 2018 01:40 PM (+y/Ru)

154 129 Can Random Homeless Guy use Hawaii Judge's personal restroom?
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 26, 2018 01:36 PM (Ndje9)

No, it's forbidden under the Disgusting Bum Clause.

Posted by: joncelli, going phalangist at April 26, 2018 01:40 PM (RD7QR)

155 Heh..... I know that I am but dust and ashes, but what if we should find even one MAGA man in the city?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 26, 2018 01:31 PM

We escort him out, tell him not to look back, and nuke it from orbit.

Posted by: Lot at April 26, 2018 01:40 PM (p+Wdc)

156 Trump gave the right answer though. you can't ask someone to grade his own paper. of course an alpha is going to give himself an A and a beta (like Cock Curious) will give himself a B.

and then there's Coloradans, who will grade ourselves "Joint".

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at April 26, 2018 01:40 PM (NqyM4)

157 Got more yard work to do. Later.

Posted by: Skip at April 26, 2018 01:40 PM (aC6Sd)

158 This isn't about *law*. This is about power. Anybody who thinks that just exposing a logical inconsistency is going to make the left change their ways is in for a serious disappointment.

Did pointing out media bias make them change their ways?

Nope.

Same is and will continue to happen with the *law*.

Posted by: Taco Shack at April 26, 2018 01:32 PM (C+qQ0)
_____________________________________

Power? Eh...more like a tantrum continuing from Election day. But, until recently, we haven't been using their nonsense against them. As Col. Kurt Schlichter is want to say. "They aren't going to like the new rules."

It's not just a "logical inconsistency." It's a precedent of law now. It is a case sited to solidify a future case. Thing is, to Leftists...their ideology politically just happens to be their religion. It's why this idiot judge ruled the way he did. He's a believer.

Posted by: Orson at April 26, 2018 01:40 PM (HbiNB)

159 6
As for baking a cake -- well, we're making "sexual orientation" and
other immutable characteristics "protected classes" now. So ... there
you go.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 26, 2018 01:16 PM (F5+ro)

Last time I checked, the Left was claiming that "sexual orientation" was a fluid thing, not immutable.

Posted by: jim at April 26, 2018 01:40 PM (gjGvH)

160 This is why the public accommodation crap is a hornet's nest.

I should be allowed to open a business that discriminates, and the people should be allowed to walk past it and frequent one that does not discriminate.

Property rights for the win!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 26, 2018 01:40 PM (wYseH)

161 Yeah, the folks on the Right who have stood by and done nothing at every increase in government control, every expansion of socialism, and the reduction of every right are just gonna suddenly up and go all John Woo.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 26, 2018 01:37 PM (rznWS)

On the contrary ... many are going to cajole, insist, and in the end good ol' fashioned BEG for people not to "start running around with their hair on fire".

When that fails, they'll turn in the "runners with flaming hair".

Because to do otherwise would cause the store shelves to go empty. And that would be unpleasant, and hence, must be avoided at all costs.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 26, 2018 01:40 PM (fiGNd)

162 Civil Rights are "special rights", applied unequally and the definition of 'arbitrary and capricious'.

Posted by: Tanner Boyle at April 26, 2018 01:40 PM (2wOtx)

163 What about a hat that says: "Democrats are hateful." how about an upside down donkey or "Vote Republican"
It's days like this when I would love to be in New York just to trigger these people.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 26, 2018 01:41 PM (PvFoN)

164 How about going to court to see if we can class all Trump supporters as non-citizens? Then at least we can't vote, and maybe they can deport us. It would also negate our constitutional rights, wouldn't it.

Problem solved.

Of course, there might be some new problems created, but since when does the left give a shit about that?

Posted by: George LeS at April 26, 2018 01:41 PM (/ki+X)

165 The restrictions on landlords are causing the homeless crisis. No one wants to rent their property if they lose control of it in the process.

Posted by: notsothoreau at April 26, 2018 01:41 PM (5HBd1)

166 I disagree since I think creed can be any set of beliefs that guides one's life and not necessarily a religious faith.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 26, 2018 01:35 PM (n1b3L)

You disagree with what?

This court did not buy that argument. Clearly, since the guy lost.

Maybe with a different fact pattern and/or a different judge, that argument might work. I don't think we really have caselaw supporting the idea that wearing a hat with a politicians slogan on it is akin to a creed or religion, but I guess it's possible.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 26, 2018 01:41 PM (F5+ro)

167 What if the guy wearing the MAGA hat refused to order beer and just wanted to sit at the table and use the bathroom while he waited for his financial adviser?

Same ruling?

______________________

Absolutely.

Whites are not a protected class.

All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 26, 2018 01:42 PM (fqUgw)

168 He have it to his lawyer!Well the guy now claims attorney client privilege....

Which is still illegal. It doesn't matter if it's his attorney.

But also, has the attorney been charged yet? What is the hold up?

Posted by: Grump928(C) Sarah Palin's uterus is my Sarah Palin's uterus at April 26, 2018 01:42 PM (yQpMk)

169 165 The restrictions on landlords are causing the homeless crisis. No one wants to rent their property if they lose control of it in the process.
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 26, 2018 01:41 PM (5HBd1)

To some extent.

The "cost" of renting out apartments is raised every time a new law comes is passed that takes away more of the landlords property rights.

But many of these homeless people would probably be really shitty tenants anyways.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 26, 2018 01:42 PM (F5+ro)

170 OT: Cosby guilty

Posted by: weew at April 26, 2018 01:42 PM (EaEMG)

171 Radio this morning a woman called in saying a public elementary school had anti NRA and Republican signs posted inside on the walls, made by the little urchins going to the Leftist seminary..

Posted by: Skip at April 26, 2018 01:39 PM (aC6Sd)

In 2008 my son's elementary school interior was covered with "Yes we can!" signs and murals of the Lightbringer. I mean covered.

I did not drop by last November to see if they were now a MAGA school.

Posted by: blaster at April 26, 2018 01:43 PM (Z5y53)

172 The restrictions on landlords are causing the homeless crisis. No one wants to rent their property if they lose control of it in the process."

That's a state by state situation - Texas is still a pretty landlord friendly state.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 26, 2018 01:43 PM (k1TUh)

173 155. Yes.....I like this plan. I'm excited to be a part of it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 26, 2018 01:43 PM (fA1SL)

174 "I didn't leak memos. I asked a friend to communicate the substance of one unclassified memo to the media."

Isn't giving it to your friend leaking?
Posted by: Grump928(C) Sarah Palin's uterus is my Sarah Palin's uterus at April 26, 2018

Not if your Jim Comey. I didn't leak it. I just gave it to a buddy and asked HIM to do it. Oh, well. On your way then.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 26, 2018 01:43 PM (EDSlc)

175 I did not drop by last November to see if they were now a MAGA school.

I'll take the under.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Snoozing Jeff Sessions is my Sarah Palin's uterus at April 26, 2018 01:43 PM (yQpMk)

176 Cosby found guilty. All three counts

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 26, 2018 01:44 PM (EyPfd)

177 Cosby : Guilty x 3

Kanye West something something leaving the plantation something something

Posted by: Tanner Boyle at April 26, 2018 01:44 PM (2wOtx)

178 I think on some unconscious level progressives are pushing the gay and tranny agenda because they recognize it's harmful to western culture. That's why they tolerate bigoted Islam, because it doesn't represent their enemy.

Posted by: Max Power at April 26, 2018 01:44 PM (q177U)

179 170 OT: Cosby guilty
Posted by: weew at April 26, 2018 01:42 PM (EaEMG)

Ate the last of the pudding?

Posted by: joncelli, going phalangist at April 26, 2018 01:44 PM (RD7QR)

180 >>Democrats trying to paint Diamond and Silk as money-grubbers? Hypocrisy is stunning coming from Congressional Pigs at the Trough.

Maybe they should re-brand themselves as "aspiring rappers" who are in the midst of "turning their lives around" to get some Democrat love?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 26, 2018 01:44 PM (W+vEI)

181 TheQuietMan: "So if someone was kicked out of a bar for wearing an Obama hat I'm sure the judge would have ruled the same way. Because we know our black robed masters are so fair and impartial"

Kicking out MAGA supporters isn't against the supporter; it's against his thought. Kicking out SCOAMF supporters isn't against his thought; it's against the supporter. Do you not see this clear discriminatory distinction, Deplorable?

Posted by: Judge Macon Shitup at April 26, 2018 01:44 PM (H8S+R)

182 Has John Kasich told them to "just pour the damned beer"?

Somehow, I don't think so.

Posted by: George LeS at April 26, 2018 01:44 PM (/ki+X)

183 160 This is why the public accommodation crap is a hornet's nest.

I should be allowed to open a business that discriminates, and the people should be allowed to walk past it and frequent one that does not discriminate.

Property rights for the win!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 26, 2018 01:40 PM (wYseH)

Yep. This is the outcome of the concept of "public accommodations."

WHICH, incidentally is the only way LBJ got Democrats to vote for the CRA of 1964 -- the promise of winning the black vote and of eroding the idea of private property.

It was politically brilliant, really. The R's had to vote against a law called the CIVIL RIGHTS ACT after spending 100+ years passing civil rights acts (which to this day still hurts them), when all the law really did was reclassify private businesses as "public accommodations."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 26, 2018 01:45 PM (F5+ro)

184 Every point of law has a Trump Exception."It's illegal but...Trump"

Posted by: steevy at April 26, 2018 01:45 PM (LiyEm)

185 but I see no way to reconcile it with the previous ruling. None.
Posted by: pep at April 26, 2018 01:26 PM (wW03z)

You aren't supposed to reconcile it, plebe. You are merely supposed to obey your masters. - Your Betters at the GOP-e

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at April 26, 2018 01:45 PM (O9qtX)

186 Pompeo confirmed 57 to 42.

Posted by: runner at April 26, 2018 01:45 PM (bUjCl)

187 The pressure is building, a pressure of resentment and anger and a deep sense of getting the short end of the stick.
Posted by: zombie

You got a stick?

I just got a rock.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at April 26, 2018 01:46 PM (vcOmj)

188 All the white wine being consumed should have warned MAGA hat guy that this wasn't his kind of bar.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at April 26, 2018 01:46 PM (nBr1j)

189 Oh and a waitress with an Adam's Apple should also have been a tell.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at April 26, 2018 01:46 PM (nBr1j)

190 That's a state by state situation - Texas is still a pretty landlord friendly state.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 26, 2018 01:43 PM (k1TUh)

Oh, I think its illegal to discriminate in housing in all 50 states.

That kind of law has all the unintended effects of encouraging discrimination. Since you can't legally have a policy of, on a case by case basis, saying "I won't rent to a 19 year old single mother with 5 kids," you just don't rent to anyone who wants to use section 8 housing vouchers.

Etc. etc.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 26, 2018 01:47 PM (F5+ro)

191 With respect to the last thread's discussion of attracting black voters to vote republican - imagining even bringing up the idea to any black voter in this country, that businesses should have the right to choose their own customers, and that the Atlanta Lunch Counter case was wrongly decided.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 26, 2018 01:48 PM (k1TUh)

192 Cosby guilty.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 26, 2018 01:48 PM (zRZaJ)

193 >>I think on some unconscious level progressives are pushing the gay and tranny agenda because they recognize it's harmful to western culture. That's why they tolerate bigoted Islam, because it doesn't represent their enemy.

It's conscious.

Several gay/lesbians activists have admitted (during the fight for gay marriage) that the goal was to kill marriage, not take part in it. There was an online petition for years (now gone) - BeyondMarriage.org - that said up from that gay marriage was just step 1, with the endgame being making all sorts of unions in order for people take advantage of benefits of marriage. They want to redefine family as any group of people who want to say they're a family (i.e. destroy the concept entirely).

Posted by: Lizzy at April 26, 2018 01:48 PM (W+vEI)

194
Maybe with a different fact pattern and/or a different judge, that argument might work. I don't think we really have caselaw supporting the idea that wearing a hat with a politicians slogan on it is akin to a creed or religion, but I guess it's possible.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 26, 2018 01:41 PM (F5+ro)

Anyone who supports Trump -- or believes in what you believe -- is not welcome

Obviously the management of the place did.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 26, 2018 01:48 PM (lKyWE)

195 I'm always entertained ... whenever a judge pulls some activist shit straight out of his ass ... by the following sober analysis of all the legal ramifications and justifications of said ruling.

Taco told you above. Doens't have a damn thing to do with Law. And everything to do with Power.

Keep that in mind ... the next time you're discussing Law - and those that choose to Enforce it.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 26, 2018 01:48 PM (fiGNd)

196 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 26, 2018 01:41 PM (F5+ro)

It's not about wearing the specific hat but that he was identified via the hat as someone with beliefs different than the bar and thus kicked out.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 26, 2018 01:49 PM (n1b3L)

197 Minnfidel RE: "I didn't leak memos. I asked a friend to communicate the substance of one unclassified memo to the media."

AKA leaking.

What color is the sky in your world, Mr. Comey? And are you in it?

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 26, 2018 01:49 PM (H8S+R)

198 And again, good for them, getting it right with this one: businesses should be free to be as dumb as they want with their own property.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 26, 2018 01:49 PM (39g3+)

199 Cosby found guilty. All three counts

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Any way you cut it, he's a pig. Yet Bill Clinton walks free.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 26, 2018 01:50 PM (+y/Ru)

200 Cosby. Guilty as sin, free as........a jailbird.

Posted by: maddogg at April 26, 2018 01:50 PM (o2MD2)

201 Even climate change at heart, is a scheme designed to hobble western progress, and that harms (by design) "westerners." Every progressive issue is racially motivated.

Posted by: Max Power at April 26, 2018 01:51 PM (q177U)

202 Trying to impose one set of manners for Group A and a second set for Group B - that has a long and storied history of oppression, and revenge.

Some people think it will go differently this time because they have on the riding boots. History says they're wrong.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Tater is the Latest Gender at the Outrage Outlet! at April 26, 2018 01:51 PM (hLRSq)

203 naw naw naw
gonna have some jailtime
Hey Hey Hey!

Posted by: The Cosby Kids at April 26, 2018 01:51 PM (KvWlw)

204 You see... you take, the pills, and, a nap

I take, my pudding, pop..... and slip it

Into your....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 26, 2018 01:51 PM (jjaLl)

205 Would the judge allow them to kick out someone wearing a Che shirt?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 26, 2018 01:51 PM (n1b3L)

206 Cosby. Guilty as sin, free as........a jailbird.

Posted by: maddogg at April 26, 2018 01:50 PM (o2MD2)

Oh boy ... somebody is going to be getting their share of pudding pops.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 26, 2018 01:51 PM (fiGNd)

207 If someone wasn't an outlaw yesterday, and isn't one today, the odds are overwhelmingly good that they won't be one tomorrow.
Posted by: FaCubeItches

When outlaws are outlawed, only outlaws will be outlaws.

Does that make sense?

Probably not.

Jeff Goldberg over at "Protein Wisdom" (it was good for you!) went through this years ago, insisting that we were all about to be made outlaws by the demand for conformity to the Obama Regime.
Outlaw or knuckle under. Time is short.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at April 26, 2018 01:52 PM (vcOmj)

208 I'm not a fan of "targetting private businesses" - but game on.

1. Fill the place with one guy at each table, and have them say they are waiting for someone

2. Order coffee or tea

3. Whip out and put on MAGA hat

4. Sit and wait.

5. Repeat.

Posted by: Lurker primus at April 26, 2018 01:52 PM (yBgqh)

209 That kind of law has all the unintended effects of encouraging discrimination. Since you can't legally have a policy of, on a case by case basis, saying "I won't rent to a 19 year old single mother with 5 kids," you just don't rent to anyone who wants to use section 8 housing vouchers. "

Actually I do own some rental properties. I (and most landlords here) automatically refuse to allow any more than 2 persons to a bedroom, and only allow 3 persons per bathroom, no matter how many bedrooms there are. Also, Credit Checks are allowed, and everyone who's a renter these days has something bad on their credit (usually medical) and so you can always use that to turn down someone you don't like. Best method, of course, is to only do word of mouth advertising when renting out a place, which you can do when the market is hot, like it is now. And then you just say "no, it's already rented" if you talk to someone you don't want.

Now yeah, you're an idiot if you accept Section 8, which no one does. EXCEPT the slumlords who have property that is so roach infested and run down that no decent person would ever get near it, and so that's what all the section 8 housing looks like where I am.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 26, 2018 01:52 PM (k1TUh)

210 reckon we are going to get a Cosby thread soon whether we like it or not. maybe we'll be given something to help us sleep through it

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at April 26, 2018 01:53 PM (NqyM4)

211 Pelican makes a really great ice chest I hear.

Posted by: maddogg at April 26, 2018 01:53 PM (o2MD2)

212 And speaking of guilty . . .

RUH-ROH: Daily Beast 'hits pause' on all Joy Reid posts, MSNBC backs out of speaking event

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 26, 2018 01:53 PM (+y/Ru)

213 So ... Lawfare was once again used against those like Me.

But ... since it was for Good Reasons ... I'm supposed to applaud it ? Right ?

Wrong.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 26, 2018 01:53 PM (fiGNd)

214 209. Tom Servo - he kno de wey, bruddahs. Ideal Section 8 propeery is already at the end of its useful life as an asset.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 26, 2018 01:55 PM (fA1SL)

215 Pelican makes a really great ice chest I hear.
Posted by: maddogg

So does RTIC

Posted by: rickb223 at April 26, 2018 01:55 PM (2ifxQ)

216 Joy Reid is a good example of what I've said for years. Wanna know what the democrats are guilty of? Just note what they are accusing the right of doing.

Posted by: maddogg at April 26, 2018 01:55 PM (o2MD2)

217 RUH-ROH: Daily Beast 'hits pause' on all Joy Reid posts, MSNBC backs out of speaking event"

Oh that is FUNNY! I love to see the New Rules in action!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 26, 2018 01:55 PM (k1TUh)

218 I think it was Oregon that tried to force landlords to take the first applicant, regardless of any other considerations. It was very unpopular and was dropped in short order.

Posted by: notsothoreau at April 26, 2018 01:55 PM (5HBd1)

219 >>>Several gay/lesbians activists have admitted (during the fight for gay marriage) that the goal was to kill marriage, not take part in it.

And yet they would be perfectly willing to be forced into a burka and an arranged marriage as long as the people in charge were not "westerners." You take Handmaids Tale and set it in Syria and it would be a fantasy series.

Posted by: Max Power at April 26, 2018 01:55 PM (q177U)

220 One set of rules for Group A and a second set for Group B.

Now that I think about it, it *is* just like middle school.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Tater is the Latest Gender at the Outrage Outlet! at April 26, 2018 01:56 PM (hLRSq)

221 "or believes in what you believe"

Didn't the bar owner just describe "creed"?

Posted by: OCBill at April 26, 2018 01:56 PM (df+Zi)

222 RUH-ROH: Daily Beast 'hits pause' on all Joy Reid posts, MSNBC backs out of speaking event
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 26, 2018 01:53 PM

Joy Reid to announce she is spending "more time with family" soon?

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 26, 2018 01:56 PM (EDSlc)

223 I think on some unconscious level progressives are pushing the gay and tranny agenda because they recognize it's harmful to western culture.
--------

Unconscious?

Posted by: Mega at April 26, 2018 01:57 PM (Sci1i)

224 210 reckon we are going to get a Cosby thread soon whether we like it or not. maybe we'll be given something to help us sleep through it
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at April 26, 2018 01:53 PM (NqyM4)

Pudding?

Posted by: The Coz, Rampant at April 26, 2018 01:57 PM (RD7QR)

225 When outlaws are outlawed, only outlaws will be outlaws.

Does that make sense?

Probably not.

Jeff Goldberg over at "Protein Wisdom" (it was good for you!) went through this years ago, insisting that we were all about to be made outlaws by the demand for conformity to the Obama Regime.
Outlaw or knuckle under. Time is short.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative

Puts on Quantrill's Raiders hat.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 26, 2018 01:57 PM (2ifxQ)

226 I didn't ask the guy to leave, I just asked one of my bouncers to ask the guy to leave.

Posted by: Bartender Comey at April 26, 2018 01:57 PM (EDSlc)

227
*Thinks about making willowed cosby comment.*

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 26, 2018 01:57 PM (r+sAi)

228 Joy Reid's show has always been the poor black ghetto of cable news.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 26, 2018 01:57 PM (k1TUh)

229 CharlieBrown'sDildo: "I should be allowed to open a business that discriminates, and the people should be allowed to walk past it and frequent one that does not discriminate."

Freedom of Association

Government can impose restrictions on itself, not upon free thinking/trading citizens. Alas some laws are more equal than others, so the proper authorities will (re)define who/what is "discriminatory".

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 26, 2018 01:57 PM (H8S+R)

230 I have a cousin in Section 8 housing in OK (he's bipolar and now on dialysis due to the meds they had him on.). He actually has a nice place now. Previous place was in Tulsa and had a shooting in one of the apartments by his. There are some good places available, but they'd prefer to have tenants like my cousin.

Posted by: notsothoreau at April 26, 2018 01:58 PM (5HBd1)

231 "or believes in what you believe"

Didn't the bar owner just describe "creed"?
Posted by: OCBill

Apollo or Assasin's?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 26, 2018 01:58 PM (2ifxQ)

232 Now yeah, you're an idiot if you accept Section 8, which no one does. EXCEPT the slumlords who have property that is so roach infested and run down that no decent person would ever get near it, and so that's what all the section 8 housing looks like where I am.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 26, 2018 01:52 PM (k1TUh)

I met a landlord who apparently was forced to accept some section 8 tenants - because California - and she was not best pleased about it.

In fact, she was an immigrant from Eastern Europe, and went on a 15 minute rant about it and the tenants.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2018 01:58 PM (+3KlA)

233 Moar Law...

That piece of shit muzzie cop in Minnesota that shot across his partner to kill the woman in her nightie is going to plead....... ready????

SELF DEFENSE!!!!!!!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 26, 2018 01:59 PM (jjaLl)

234 It's too bad that most condervatives work and or live productive lives. If we were like the leftists we'd all have time to organize and stage a protest at the bar.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 26, 2018 01:59 PM (EDSlc)

235 the endgame being making all sorts of unions in order for people take advantage of benefits of marriage.
_____________________

The societal benefits, or the government benefits?

Many of the polygamous families in states like Utah and AZ have the wives collecting food stamps, welfare, housing, and other government benefits for themselves and their children. I remember reading an article about one group of them living in a big compound which had been financed almost entirely by welfare benefits. All of it was technically legal, since the "wives" weren't legally married to the husband, and were entitled to welfare as non-working "single mothers."

Just another massive scam to rip off taxpayers, and yet another reason to do away with welfare. Live how you want to live, just don't expect the rest of us to pay for your lifestyle choices.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 26, 2018 01:59 PM (fqUgw)

236 219 >>>Several gay/lesbians activists have admitted (during the fight for gay marriage) that the goal was to kill marriage, not take part in it.

And yet they would be perfectly willing to be forced into a burka and an arranged marriage as long as the people in charge were not "westerners." You take Handmaids Tale and set it in Syria and it would be a fantasy series.

Posted by: Max Power at April 26, 2018 01:55 PM (q177U)

Absolutely true.

I've seen LGBTs say they "Need" the Muslims to "protect" them from the Christians.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 26, 2018 01:59 PM (XMDuf)

237 People from Phily should be used to getting thrown out of bars.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 26, 2018 01:59 PM (xfb67)

238 Several gay/lesbians activists have admitted (during the fight for gay marriage) that the goal was to kill marriage, not take part in it.

And yet they would be perfectly willing to be forced into a burka and an arranged marriage as long as the people in charge were not "westerners." You take Handmaids Tale and set it in Syria and it would be a fantasy series.
Posted by: Max Power

I can't wait until we can beat them with broomsticks.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 26, 2018 01:59 PM (2ifxQ)

239 222 RUH-ROH: Daily Beast 'hits pause' on all Joy Reid posts, MSNBC backs out of speaking event
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 26, 2018 01:53 PM

Joy Reid to announce she is spending "more time with family" soon?
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 26, 2018 01:56 PM (EDSlc)

Going to live her life as a gay man?

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at April 26, 2018 01:59 PM (RD7QR)

240 Local Trump group should flash mob the place and all put on MAGA garb at the same time and watch hillarity ensue.

Blacks, whites, asians, hispanics, women, men, mentally ill, all donning MAGA hats or revealing MAGA T-shirts all at once.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 26, 2018 02:00 PM (Dp6qK)

241 233 Moar Law...

That piece of shit muzzie cop in Minnesota that shot across his partner to kill the woman in her nightie is going to plead....... ready????

SELF DEFENSE!!!!!!!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 26, 2018 01:59 PM (jjaLl)

"I'm not even sure why you pled. It's not a crime for a Muslim to kill whoever they want. Case dismissed."

Posted by: Lib Judge at April 26, 2018 02:00 PM (XMDuf)

242 Another day, another reminder that the Commies are better than you and coming for you

Posted by: Mega at April 26, 2018 02:00 PM (Sci1i)

243 I would expect nothing less from NYC.

I just hope we can ban that shitty little caravan and the fake refugees. Can anybody enlighten me as to when domestic abuse in Honduras meant a freebie life in the USA? Send the bitch and kiddies back, this is purely a domestic issue!

Posted by: CN at April 26, 2018 02:01 PM (5gaNQ)

244 229. Freedom of associ is verboten. Look - how ya gonna atomize society and leave the individual utterly alone in the face of the raw exercise of arbitrary power if ya let him choose those with whom he associates? Don't you see that nothijg else or other than the utter destruction of this fundamental human right is necessary for civil rights to be enjoyed?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 26, 2018 02:01 PM (fA1SL)

245 See, Bill Cosby's mistake was not fleeing to Europe.

Posted by: Roman Polanski at April 26, 2018 02:01 PM (lt1vl)

246 People from Phily should be used to getting thrown out of bars.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 26, 2018 01:59 PM

As Ron White said, Hey I wasn't drunk in public, I was drunk in the bar, you guys threw me into the public! I had the right to remain silent, apparently what I lacked was the ability.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 26, 2018 02:01 PM (EDSlc)

247 Eco warrior shower curtain forces you to get out f the shower after 4 minutes

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/295204/

Posted by: steevy at April 26, 2018 02:02 PM (LiyEm)

248 Something is going to give, and the libs won't like it when it does.

Posted by: Iblis at April 26, 2018 02:02 PM (9221z)

249 Don't understand why all the hoopla about Polanski. All he did was assrape a child.

/leftard

Posted by: maddogg at April 26, 2018 02:02 PM (o2MD2)

250
Any private (non-government) business or organization should be able to serve or admit anyone it wants without being forced to accommodate everyone. Don't like It? Go somewhere else.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 26, 2018 02:02 PM (BWL+E)

251 247 Eco warrior shower curtain forces you to get out f the shower after 4 minutes

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/295204/

Posted by: steevy at April 26, 2018 02:02 PM (LiyEm)

I was just coming my hair!!

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 26, 2018 02:02 PM (Dp6qK)

252 233. That's it. I think we're safe in writing off Minnedishu as a loss.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 26, 2018 02:02 PM (fA1SL)

253
That piece of shit muzzie cop in Minnesota that shot across his partner to kill the woman in her nightie is going to plead....... ready????

SELF DEFENSE!!!!!!!

She was uncovered so he was defending his immortal soul against the she devil from hell.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 26, 2018 02:03 PM (lKyWE)

254 Pelican makes a really great ice chest I hear.
Posted by: maddogg

yeah, but the trick is getting them to stay still long enough to put the ice & beer in their bill.

Posted by: josephistan at April 26, 2018 02:03 PM (7HtZB)

255 Excuse me, sir? Sir? You're going to have to leave, you're not morally qualified to drink alcoholic beverages in this establishment.

Posted by: Fritz at April 26, 2018 02:04 PM (2Mnv1)

256 191 With respect to the last thread's discussion of attracting black voters to vote republican - imagining even bringing up the idea to any black voter in this country, that businesses should have the right to choose their own customers, and that the Atlanta Lunch Counter case was wrongly decided.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 26, 2018 01:48 PM (k1TUh)

Yeah.

Well, it's certainly not a "bumper sticker" type argument. Much more nuanced than a typical political position.

Which is why the D's were so smart in how they conflated "civil rights" with property rights.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 26, 2018 02:04 PM (F5+ro)

257 Freedom of association has been dead for a while. The Princeton University clubs were forced to admit women, as are many other groups.

It's utterly stupid, and maybe the biggest reason I am glad to see men in wigs participating in women's sports and winning

Posted by: CN at April 26, 2018 02:04 PM (5gaNQ)

258 Not sure if I read it here or elsewhere but I agree: If they can get you to agree, and voice your agreement, that there are 50+ genders instead of two, they have made you lie. From there on, they can make you say/think whatever they want you to say/think. Your will is broken, your conscience is broken, your individuality is gone.

This is the goal.

Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at April 26, 2018 02:04 PM (+CiEK)

259

Non Nazis Not Welcome Here

Posted by: Soothie at April 26, 2018 02:04 PM (0Tud7)

260 252 233. That's it. I think we're safe in writing off Minnedishu as a loss.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 26, 2018 02:02 PM (fA1SL)

I dunno. Gonna watch this one play out. He is at least a 'former police officer.'

Really considering the circumstances, what else could he plead to try to weasel out of it? It was this or Temporary insanity.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2018 02:04 PM (ycWCI)

261 249 Don't understand why all the hoopla about Polanski. All he did was assrape a child.

/leftard
Posted by: maddogg at April 26, 2018 02:02 PM (o2MD2)

You left out "drugging the child."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2018 02:04 PM (+3KlA)

262
yeah, but the trick is getting them to stay still long enough to put the ice beer in their bill.

Posted by: josephistan at April 26, 2018 02:03 PM (7HtZB)

Bring sardines

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 26, 2018 02:04 PM (lKyWE)

263 I wonder what the partner has testified,how string is the " blue wall" when your crazy muslim partner discharges his piece at an unarmed woman right across your face?

Posted by: steevy at April 26, 2018 02:05 PM (LiyEm)

264 Eco warrior shower curtain forces you to get out f the shower after 4 minutes

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/295204/
Posted by: steevy at April 26, 2018 02:02 PM

I'm torn. If it would finally get my kids to stop taking showers for 2 hours. Hmmm.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 26, 2018 02:05 PM (EDSlc)

265 That piece of shit muzzie cop in Minnesota that shot across his partner to kill the woman in her nightie is going to plead....... ready????

SELF DEFENSE!!!!!!!

She was uncovered so he was defending his immortal soul against the she devil from hell.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 26, 2018 02:03 PM (lKyWE)

It was cold, and the pokies threatened him.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2018 02:05 PM (+3KlA)

266 Pelican makes a really great ice chest I hear.
Posted by: maddogg

Long before the Yeti became a status symbol, and even longer before it became a symbol of being a weasel 2A "supporter," I got two Coleman stainless coolers, for about $100/ea. Best coolers out there, for the money. Buying and leaving a Yeti in camp is like an invitation for crackheads to steal your shit.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 26, 2018 02:05 PM (Dp6qK)

267 To sum up the trend of the last eight years or so, it is basically illegal to not be a Communist. What has not been explicitly stated (yet) is the punishment.

Posted by: Mega at April 26, 2018 02:06 PM (Sci1i)

268 263 I wonder what the partner has testified,how string is the " blue wall" when your crazy muslim partner discharges his piece at an unarmed woman right across your face?
Posted by: steevy at April 26, 2018 02:05 PM (LiyEm)

WHAT WAS THAT?!

Posted by: Partner of Minnesota Cop at April 26, 2018 02:06 PM (ycWCI)

269 Really considering the circumstances, what else could he plead to try to weasel out of it? It was this or Temporary insanity.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2018 02:04 PM (ycWCI)

Accidental discharge?

I hesitate to use that phrase before The Horde, but ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2018 02:06 PM (+3KlA)

270 Proprietor: "Yes, gentlemen, I'd be pleased to bake your wedding cake."

Patrons: "Goodie!"

Proprietor: "Can you answer one question?"

Patrons, "You certainly can."

Proprietor (sternly): "You're not Republicans are you?"

Patron: "No we are not."

Proprietor: "In that case, get the fuk out of my store."

Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1997 at April 26, 2018 02:06 PM (kfcYC)

271 Best method, of course, is to only do word of mouth advertising when renting out a place, which you can do when the market is hot, like it is now. And then you just say "no, it's already rented" if you talk to someone you don't want.

Now yeah, you're an idiot if you accept Section 8, which no one does. EXCEPT the slumlords who have property that is so roach infested and run down that no decent person would ever get near it, and so that's what all the section 8 housing looks like where I am.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 26, 2018 01:52 PM (k1TUh)

For sure. As for section 8 -- this is probably a regional thing, but I used to own a multi family rental building and I ended up accepting *some* section 8 tenants. Specifically elderly people who were great tenants.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 26, 2018 02:06 PM (F5+ro)

272 Does anyone agree with Rush when he opines that Trump thinks he can convince anyone of anything; and that he could persuade Mueller to literally just shut down the investigation merely with his Trumpian Force of Will?

I don't.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 26, 2018 02:06 PM (jjaLl)

273
Waiting for the first airplane to be built by SJWs who say gravity is a social construct.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 26, 2018 02:06 PM (BWL+E)

274 I'm so damn tired of all this.

Posted by: TJ at April 26, 2018 02:07 PM (V6f+a)

275 256: Political affiliation is not a protected "right", I suspect my employer could kick me to the curb for my views if I posted something they considered improper and stuck my hopsital's name on the post.

A conservative bar could in theory kick out dems, but I don't see any guts on our side.

Side note: even Rush says Sessions is unlikely to prosecute Hillary, Inc

Posted by: CN at April 26, 2018 02:07 PM (5gaNQ)

276 LOL at the hearing where FL Rep is going on about his own 'tragedy'. Heh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dbsYGLYsZg

Linking D and S own feed because they need it.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 26, 2018 02:07 PM (MIKMs)

277 That's it. I think we're safe in writing off Minnedishu as a loss.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 26, 2018 02:02 PM

I actually don't think he'll get off. Especially now claiming self defense. Yea that unarmed 4'11 105# chick in her jammies! Now that's scary!!!!

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 26, 2018 02:07 PM (EDSlc)

278 When will the persecution of conservatives end??!?
And now a CONVICTION for poor Bill Cosby
Say Ace care to take a lol I'm the way back machine and see all the comments about gold diggers after the Cosby money ?

Posted by: Harry at April 26, 2018 02:07 PM (S56YU)

279 Off topic

I saw a clickbait headline that claimed Trump had a "Meltdown" on fox and friends this morning.

Did anyone watch that, and if so what happened?

Posted by: simplemind at April 26, 2018 02:08 PM (C6xeQ)

280 258 Not sure if I read it here or elsewhere but I agree: If they can get you to agree, and voice your agreement, that there are 50+ genders instead of two, they have made you lie. From there on, they can make you say/think whatever they want you to say/think. Your will is broken, your conscience is broken, your individuality is gone.

This is the goal.

Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at April 26, 2018 02:04 PM (+CiEK)

I brought this up the other day. I'll see if I can track down the original article.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 26, 2018 02:08 PM (Dp6qK)

281 rule #1. never, ever, call the cops. don't even ask how i know this.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 26, 2018 02:08 PM (KP5rU)

282 272: Only if he sticks Uranium One incriminating evidence about Mueller in Mueller's snout

Posted by: CN at April 26, 2018 02:08 PM (5gaNQ)

283 A lot of countries, that bar would end up being firebombed. Not here.

Posted by: Monty James at April 26, 2018 02:09 PM (gKOMX)

284 Minnedishu as a loss."

---she was committing felony clitoral possession

Posted by: Kuhyt at April 26, 2018 02:09 PM (Kuhyt)

285 191 With respect to the last thread's discussion of attracting black voters to vote republican - imagining even bringing up the idea to any black voter in this country, that businesses should have the right to choose their own customers, and that the Atlanta Lunch Counter case was wrongly decided.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 26, 2018 01:48 PM (k1TUh)
----------------------------------
Well, that's why this is just an "academic" discussion.

It's like my expressing the belief that letting women vote has had disastrous consequences. In no way would I suggest any political solution for that. In no way would I suggest that any politico or semi-politico even discuss it!

I think one thing you COULD do is insist that the (federal) government confine its civil rights concerns to those things mandated by the 14thA --- race, ethnic origin, and religion.

You could make a good case that adding category after category of protected classes diminishes the singular, historical importance of the black fight against Jim Crow.
There are still a lot of blacks who are very squeamish about equating "gay rights" with the old Civil Rights movement.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 26, 2018 02:09 PM (0jtPF)

286 Yea that unarmed 4'11 105# chick in her jammies! Now that's scary!!!!
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 26, 2018 02:07 PM (EDSlc)

Was she really that small? Wow.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2018 02:09 PM (+3KlA)

287 So all you morons who own rental property.

Take a gander at this failed legislation from Maryland last year, and tell me in your opinion if it does not require you to accept public housing vouchers.

http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2017RS/bills/hb/hb0172T.pdf

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 26, 2018 02:09 PM (EyPfd)

288 Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at April 26, 2018 02:04 PM (+CiEK)

Also once you are required to refer to everybody as "it" instead of the now offensive "he" or "she", you care about them less. As if everybody is just a very late stage fetus.

Posted by: Mega at April 26, 2018 02:09 PM (Sci1i)

289 Long before the Yeti became a status symbol, and even longer before it became a symbol of being a weasel 2A "supporter," I got two Coleman stainless coolers, for about $100/ea. Best coolers out there, for the money. Buying and leaving a Yeti in camp is like an invitation for crackheads to steal your shit.
Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 26, 2018 02:05 PM (Dp6qK)

Yeah. I have a couple pretty decent Coleman coolers as well. Both well insulated (they claim to keep ice frozen for up to 5 days. I'm dubious about that claim, and wonder if they maybe tested that in the middle of the winter, but whatever.) Both pretty old. Both on their second set of hinges.
::shrugs::

I'm maybe into 'em for 100 bucks each and they keep things cold. I'm not sure why i would buy a yeti, tbh. They look nice, but at the end of the day, they're coolers.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 26, 2018 02:09 PM (F5+ro)

290 269 Really considering the circumstances, what else could he plead to try to weasel out of it? It was this or Temporary insanity.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2018 02:04 PM (ycWCI)

Accidental discharge?

I hesitate to use that phrase before The Horde, but ...
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2018 02:06 PM (+3KlA)

Interesting. "The gun 'just went off' while I, for no reason, pointed the weapon at her, inside a vehicle. A couple inches from my partner's face."

Could happen to anyone.

Posted by: Partner of Minnesota Cop at April 26, 2018 02:09 PM (ycWCI)

291 275
Side note: even Rush says Sessions is unlikely to prosecute Hillary, Inc

Posted by: CN at April 26, 2018 02:07 PM (5gaNQ)

Color me shocked. NOT. Despite all the hearings, racing to the nearest microphones, etc. nobody and I mean NOBODY will be prosecuted for this malfeasance.
Because laws are for little people.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 26, 2018 02:10 PM (jxbfJ)

292 277. That he or his legal counsel consider there's even the most remote chance of it working says it all. Minnedishu is done.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 26, 2018 02:10 PM (fA1SL)

293 Was she really that small? Wow.Posted

by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2018 02:09 PM (+3KlA)

Incredibly small. At least she wasn't a lawyer.

Posted by: Mega at April 26, 2018 02:10 PM (Sci1i)

294
There may be 50+ genders but there are only two sexes. If you have XY chromosomes you're a male and if you insist you're something else, you're a science denier.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 26, 2018 02:11 PM (BWL+E)

295 Hmm...O/T, but apparently Cosby was found guilty of 3 counts of indecent assault.

I guess there's always room for Jello pudding pops and prison rape. But mostly prison rape.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 26, 2018 02:11 PM (p+Wdc)

296 Was she really that small? Wow.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2018 02:09 PM

Yep. right around there, she was a petit little thing. I don't think Quick Draw McNoor's self defense claim is going to fly, even in Minneaplestan. Unless they get all jurors from "Little Mogadishu" (The Decar Riverside area).

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 26, 2018 02:11 PM (EDSlc)

297 Best part is he somehow managed to post $500,000 bail....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 26, 2018 02:11 PM (jjaLl)

298 291: Yet, may have faith in the incomparable Horowitz. Has even McCabe been charged yet? WTF is DOJ waiting for!

Posted by: CN at April 26, 2018 02:11 PM (5gaNQ)

299 My goodness, John Legend is a pretentious d-bag.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 26, 2018 02:12 PM (OD2ni)

300 272 Does anyone agree with Rush when he opines that Trump thinks he can convince anyone of anything; and that he could persuade Mueller to literally just shut down the investigation merely with his Trumpian Force of Will?"

I'm not sure. I listened to Trump's call in to the Fox hosts this morning, and after listening to him I was left thinking "oh god, don't talk to Mueller, don't talk to Mueller".

When Trump gets going, his mouth turns into a runaway freight train.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 26, 2018 02:12 PM (k1TUh)

301 295: is there a decent assault? is that like just grabbing a mish?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 26, 2018 02:13 PM (KP5rU)

302 So riddle me this, if you go to this bar or Starbucks without wearing a MAGA hat, buy a drink and then shit yourself rotten, can they deny you service? Isn't there some Incontinent Civil Right to Shit Yourself Rotten in an establishment own by Fascists? Where does AntiFa come down on this issue?

Posted by: Gumby at April 26, 2018 02:13 PM (2LelM)

303 I never wanted a Yeti, had no appeal to me whatsoever.

I dated a few a while back and I didn't care for it.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 26, 2018 02:13 PM (xfb67)

304 296. He only needs one.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 26, 2018 02:13 PM (fA1SL)

305 I've read where restaurants in NYC are petitioning City Hall to allow them to add a surcharge on diner's bills. Due to the high cost of added regulations, raised rents, etc. restaurant owners say that many of them will go out of business if they can't charge an extra 5-10% on each tab.

Communists don't do math.

Posted by: Cheri at April 26, 2018 02:13 PM (oiNtH)

306 Nood. Cosby.

Posted by: Partner of Minnesota Cop at April 26, 2018 02:13 PM (ycWCI)

307 My favorite Cosby show episode was the one where he gets raped in prison.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 26, 2018 02:13 PM (EDSlc)

308 Interesting. "The gun 'just went off' while I, for no reason, pointed the weapon at her, inside a vehicle. A couple inches from my partner's face."

Could happen to anyone.

Posted by: Partner of Minnesota Cop at April 26, 2018 02:09 PM (ycWCI)

I didn't say it was a good argument. /grin

But then, self-defense is an even worse argument, IMO.

Try this one on for size: "Out of the corner of my eye I saw someone approaching, and, thinking it might be the perp we'd been called about, I drew my service revolver and pointed it in that direction. As I realized the person was not the perp, my weapon accidentally discharged."

Yeah, not a great defense, but it's gotta better than self-defense, which is risible.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2018 02:13 PM (+3KlA)

309 "My goodness, John Legend is a pretentious d-bag."

Superstar!!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 26, 2018 02:13 PM (EyPfd)

310 Can you refuse to serve people who do not speak English? I know that was something a Philadelphia area cheesesteak place guy had done. Don't remember what became of that.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 26, 2018 02:13 PM (n1b3L)

311 Does anyone agree with Rush when he opines that Trump thinks he can convince anyone of anything; and that he could persuade Mueller to literally just shut down the investigation merely with his Trumpian Force of Will?
---

Does it include a 30" Louisville Slugger to the side of the head?

Posted by: auscolpyr at April 26, 2018 02:13 PM (suO/a)

312 I'm not sure. I listened to Trump's call in to the
Fox hosts this morning, and after listening to him I was left thinking
"oh god, don't talk to Mueller, don't talk to Mueller".

When Trump gets going, his mouth turns into a runaway freight train.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 26, 2018 02:12 PM (k1TUh)

Yeah, I agree. He seemed a little angry, not that I can blame him. But no way should he get within hearing distance of Mueller.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 26, 2018 02:14 PM (jjaLl)

313 269 Really considering the circumstances, what else could he plead to try to weasel out of it? It was this or Temporary insanity.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2018 02:04 PM (ycWCI)

Accidental discharge?

I hesitate to use that phrase before The Horde, but ...
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2018 02:06 PM (+3KlA)

Interesting. "The gun 'just went off' while I, for no reason, pointed the weapon at her, inside a vehicle. A couple inches from my partner's face."

Could happen to anyone.

Posted by: Partner of Minnesota Cop at April 26, 2018 02:09 PM (ycWCI)

The classic problem with the "accidental discharge" thing is that you've essentially just plead guilty to manslaughter. Your gross negligence caused the death of another. 10-15 in jail.

On the flip side, if you think there's a smalll chance you can convince a jury you were reasonably in fear for your life, and the judge goes for it? eh. Worth I shot I guess

End of the day, he probably ends up 10-15 in prison no matter what he does, so why not try for the self defense first?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 26, 2018 02:14 PM (F5+ro)

314 260 Really considering the circumstances, what else could he plead to try to weasel out of it? It was this or Temporary insanity.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2018 02:04 PM (ycWCI)

"Filthy Kuffar Whore Deserved What She Got! Allah demanded her death!"

Posted by: Lib Judge at April 26, 2018 02:14 PM (XMDuf)

315 310: Next you'll have to be like hospitals and provide mandatory translation services

Posted by: CN at April 26, 2018 02:14 PM (5gaNQ)

316 Wait a sec...

Gay Marriage was a POLITICAL Question....

It was on BALLOTS.... and you can't get much more political than that...

So Cake Bakers just have to argue they are not giving them service based on the Gay Marriage Ballot initiative... not because they were Gay...

Posted by: Don Q. at April 26, 2018 02:16 PM (NgKpN)

317 280 258 Not sure if I read it here or elsewhere but I agree: If they can get you to agree, and voice your agreement, that there are 50+ genders instead of two, they have made you lie. From there on, they can make you say/think whatever they want you to say/think. Your will is broken, your conscience is broken, your individuality is gone.

This is the goal.

Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at April 26, 2018 02:04 PM (+CiEK)

I brought this up the other day. I'll see if I can track down the original article.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 26, 2018 02:08 PM

https://townhall.com/columnists/ kurtschlichter/2017/08/07/refuse-to-accept-the-lies --before-it-is-too-late-n2365296

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 26, 2018 02:16 PM (Dp6qK)

318 nood, Cosby

Posted by: auscolpyr at April 26, 2018 02:16 PM (suO/a)

319 Yeah, not a great defense, but it's gotta better than self-defense, which is risible.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 26, 2018 02:13 PM (+3KlA)

That's a good story, and you might have got away with it, if it wasn't for ~~those meddling kids~~ the fact that she was standing there by your partners window talking to you and then you suddenly just shot her.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 26, 2018 02:16 PM (jjaLl)

320 307 My favorite Cosby show episode was the one where he gets raped in prison.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 26, 2018 02:13 PM (EDSlc)

"Buck-buck number one, comin' in!"

Posted by: joncelli, your source for obscure Cosby routines at April 26, 2018 02:17 PM (RD7QR)

321 Take a gander at this failed legislation from Maryland last year, and tell me in your opinion if it does not require you to accept public housing vouchers.

http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2017RS/bills/hb/hb0172T.pdf

Oh of course it does, but Maryland. I noticed that the bill itself contains a list of 12 states where you really should not own rental property, basically a roll call of blue states. (but somehow Oklahoma bought into that bad idea)

So what will happen is that rental property won't be built, and what is built won't be maintained, and in a few years those states will face a big demand for Public Housing, which will fail like it always fails.

Real solution - don't live in those states.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 26, 2018 02:17 PM (k1TUh)

322 Democrats perpetrate the flamboyant injustice of black slavery for 100 years, then violently stomp on their rights for the next 100, and then uses their own despicable acts as a cudgel to perpetrate every future injustice they can conjure.

It's the kind of thing that could only be dreamed up by a Bond Villain.

Posted by: Mega at April 26, 2018 02:17 PM (Sci1i)

323
The classic problem with the "accidental discharge" thing is that you've essentially just plead guilty to manslaughter. Your gross negligence caused the death of another. 10-15 in jail.

On the flip side, if you think there's a smalll chance you can convince a jury you were reasonably in fear for your life, and the judge goes for it? eh. Worth I shot I guess

End of the day, he probably ends up 10-15 in prison no matter what he does, so why not try for the self defense first?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 26, 2018 02:14 PM (F5+ro)

Unless he was carrying with one in the chamber, and the safety off.... how could he accidentally discharge his weapon?

Posted by: Don Q. at April 26, 2018 02:17 PM (NgKpN)

324 Rush asking "where is the reckoning" for this 2-tier justice system that is being uncovered?

Implying that there will be no legal punishment for the corrupt in our government.

I agree.

So what we gonna do about it?

Posted by: Pam at April 26, 2018 02:18 PM (5FhpD)

325 Tom Servo: "I'm not sure. I listened to Trump's call in to the Fox hosts this morning, and after listening to him I was left thinking 'oh god, don't talk to Mueller, don't talk to Mueller'."

If Trump listens and accepts only one piece of advice during his entire tenure, this is the advice he needs to heed. DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, TALK TO MUELLER.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 26, 2018 02:18 PM (H8S+R)

326 Some days I wish they would openly declare war on us so we can get on with the shooting part. Instead, I'm just going to have to wear MAGA gear every day to remind them that we deplorables are everywhere and not going away anytime soon.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at April 26, 2018 02:20 PM (toi7g)

327 On the flip side, if you think there's a smalll chance you can convince a jury you were reasonably in fear for your life, and the judge goes for it? eh. Worth I shot I guess

Unarmed & in a nightgown. Your chance doesn't get much smaller than that.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 26, 2018 02:24 PM (2ifxQ)

328 Does anyone agree with Rush when he opines that Trump thinks he can convince anyone of anything; and that he could persuade Mueller to literally just shut down the investigation merely with his Trumpian Force of Will?

Depends on what you mean to do I agree with Rush. Do I think Trump thinks he can persuade Mueller? I am not sure. I mean, there is the whole Scott Adams Master Persuader thing. Trump and the Art of the Deal and all that.

But I am not sure that Trump thinks he can just persuade Mueller. I think he thinks he can beat Mueller which is not the same thing.

Posted by: blaster at April 26, 2018 02:25 PM (Z5y53)

329 > To sum up the trend of the last eight years or so, it is basically illegal to not be a Communist. What has not been explicitly stated (yet) is the punishment.

They need to get rid of the Second Amendment before they can tell you that.

Posted by: Chicago Vote Registrar at April 26, 2018 02:25 PM (Q7M5N)

330 Was this bar that threw out the MAGA hat-wearing guy a GAY bar by any chance?

There are a lot of them in NYC and they don't all advertise it in their signage.

Posted by: JoeF. at April 26, 2018 02:26 PM (7uYFy)

331 I've seen LGBTs say they "Need" the Muslims to "protect" them from the Christians.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 26, 2018 01:59 PM (XMDuf)

Crazy should hurt, I'm thinking.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Tater is the Latest Gender at the Outrage Outlet! at April 26, 2018 02:50 PM (hLRSq)

332 i wonder what would happen if 10-12 people went to The Happiest Hour and ordered beers...and got served. And then put on their MAGA hats.

Posted by: vivi at April 26, 2018 03:04 PM (11H2y)

333 So, bakers, photographers, et al, just need to kick gay wedding customers out politically -- then it's A-OK.

(Religious freedoms are so passé.)

Posted by: red speck at April 26, 2018 03:06 PM (6Krd7)

334 I'm a homeowner in Brooklyn, NY. and not renting to you, cause I don't like your politics.

Posted by: Donna at April 26, 2018 03:15 PM (e7B8r)

335 hey Donna, if NY ditches rent regulations and I lose my rent regulated apartment, can i rent from you?

Posted by: vivi at April 26, 2018 03:26 PM (11H2y)

336 I hope sane people are watching this and taking it seriously. Not just this, but all the other things we have seen that are unprecedented in our history.

That we actually have people who would throw someone out of a bar becz of a hat is beyond belief. It is our president. Don't remember anyone doing this about Obama.

People have really lost their minds. It is not just students and SJWs who need their safe spaces and to shut down differing opinions, now it is adults.

The list of all the crazy keeps growing, and is beyond belief to see our country devolve. I hope there are enough sane people left, and enough old school Dems who are mortified by their party, that pushback will happen.

FGM allowed in some states, but hat wearing in a bar is not. Our moral compass is broken.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 26, 2018 03:42 PM (FqXvH)

337 Id like a serious argument to get made that being gay doesnt mean you have to believe in gay marriage, therefore events that publicly support gay marriage are themselves inherently political.

Edit: Pixy can you update this dang thing to accept directional quotes and apostrophes?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at April 26, 2018 03:43 PM (M0hr6)

338 Maybe we should all start framing our views as part of our religious beliefs so we can claim they're protected. Remember, the courts refuse to even address the question of exactly what any religion says -- because an individual who rolls his own is protected (in theory, anyway) just as much as an institutional faith with millions of adherents.

Posted by: jdgalt at April 26, 2018 08:31 PM (3SFo/)

339 "Good luck imposing your caste system on a nation founded on violent revolution over unequal political rights."

Which is why Democrats' agenda is to replace the electorate with foreigners that have no understanding of our traditions or culture, and do not have any desire to learn.

Posted by: Aarradin at April 27, 2018 05:32 AM (5kvQv)

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