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Tuesday Overnight Open Thread (1/16/18 )

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Quotes of The Day

Quote I

"My imagination has led me to look into the distant future, and there to contemplate the greatness of free America. I have beheld her walking on the waves of the mighty deep, carrying along with her tidings of great joy to distant nations. I have seen her overturning the strong places of despotism, and restoring to man his long-lost rights." John Tyler, 1832. 10th President of The United States of America
h/t Isophorone Blog@Isophorone

Quote II

Not far from where I’m writing this, the kosher butcher shop is long gone; across the street, the church that once stood tall is now boarded up.

But next to it stands a mosque newly built and freshly painted. English in the neighborhood is a foreign tongue and nobody knows Frank Sinatra.

The boys don’t play stickball. The girls in their veils don’t play hopscotch and all the cabs are driven by men from Somalia and Afghanistan.

Strangers are not greeted warmly.

That’s a snapshot of what troubles President Trump…not the mosque, but the culture shift,

Call him chauvinistic…call him profane…he doesn’t care. Jack Engelhard


Quote III


“The poverty of an aspiring immigrant’s nation of origin is as irrelevant as their race. The sentiment attributed to POTUS is inconsistent w/ America’s history and antithetical to American values. May our memory of Dr. King buoy our hope for unity, greatness, & “charity for all.” Mitt Romney

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The Manitowoc Minute family fishing trip.


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For years The Left has used the court system against their "enemies". The Right is starting to fight back. Unfortunately, they are fighting back in California.

Four residents of California's Bay Area injured during the violent University of California-Berkeley protests last year of a Milo Yiannopoulous campus appearance filed a lawsuit Thursday, alleging administrators failed to install appropriate security measures to protect attendees from harm.

John Jennings, Katrina Redelsheimer, Trever hosta, and Donald Fletcher allege they were physically attacked by masked rioters as they attempted to attend the Yiannopoulous speech in February 2017, with Berkeley "responsible for creating and exposing the Plaintiffs to the unlawful actions of an angry mob of violent anarchists," according to the complaint, first reported on by the student paper.


The ONT wishes you success.


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Barack Obama Forgotten words that should make a return.


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Do you believe this claim? City owned internet services are less expensive than private sector internet providers.

Municipal broadband networks generally offer cheaper entry-level prices than private Internet providers, and the city-run networks also make it easier for customers to find out the real price of service, a new study from Harvard University researchers found.

Researchers collected advertised prices for entry-level broadband plans—those meeting the federal standard of at least 25Mbps download and 3Mbps upload speeds—offered by 40 community-owned ISPs and compared them to advertised prices from private competitors.

The report by researchers at the Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society at Harvard doesn't provide a complete picture of municipal vs. private pricing. But that's largely because data about private ISPs' prices is often more difficult to get than information about municipal network pricing, the report says.


Profitable? Money loser like mass transit?


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Once again, not content to save souls Pope Francis warns the world about governmental boo-boos.

Pope Francis has warned that the world is just “one accident” away from a nuclear holocaust the likes of which we have never seen, drawing on imagery from the Second World War to illustrate his point.
Following Hawaii’s ballistic missile attack false alarm last week, which raised fears of a possible nuclear exchange with North Korea, the Pope was asked whether he felt there was any real danger of nuclear war.

“I think we are at the very limit. I am really afraid of this. One accident is enough to precipitate things,” he replied.

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Congress critter, woman and Army Reserve Officer stifles George Stephanopoulos.

We know that North Korea has these nuclear weapons because they see how the United States in Libya for example guaranteed Gadaffi - 'we're not going to go after you, you should get rid of your nuclear weapons.' He did, then we went and led an attack that toppled Gaddafi, launching Libya into chaos that we are still seeing the results of today. North Korea sees what we did in Iraq with Saddam Hussein, with those false reports of weapons of mass destruction. And now seeing in Iran how President Trump is decertifying a nuclear deal that prevented Iran from developing their nuclear weapons, threatening the very existence and the agreement that was made.


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Thinking about having family photos taken? Check out the photographer carefully. If not, it could come back to haunt you. h/t bluebell


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The ONT Musical Interlude


January 16, 2007, James "Pookie" Hudson the lead singer of the fifties doo-wop group The Spaniels died. Their 1954 hit 'Goodnite, Sweetheart, Goodnite' was featured in such films as Three Men and a Baby and American Graffiti. The Spaniels became one of the first artists to sign with Vee-Jay Records, the first large, independent Afro-American owned record label. via thisdayinmusic.com

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January 16, 1996, Jamaican authorities opened fire on Jimmy Buffett's seaplane, mistaking it for a drug trafficker's plane. U2 singer Bono was also on the plane; neither singer was injured in the incident. The incident inspired Buffett to write a song called 'Jamaica Mistaica'. via thisdayinmusic.com


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Gov. Chris Christie (R-NJ) is a RINO and is usually not spoken of or highly thought of here at The ONT. Kudos Gov. you have done the right thing.

On his last week in office, outgoing New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie granted over two dozen pardons including several to those who had been ensnared by the state’s firearm laws.

Christie granted 26 orders for clemency, almost all pardons, bringing his eight-year total of such actions to just 55. Among those granted relief were media consultant Brian Aitken and Marine Sgt. Hisashi Pompey, men who had been arrested and found guilty of criminal weapon possession even though they had clear records and owned guns legally bought outside the state.


What a truly oppressive state. Hard to imagine they were one of the original 13 colonies.

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Well, if this is true the climate change hysteria should slowly come to an end.Yeah right.

Renewable energy will be cheaper than fossil fuels in two years, according to a new report.

Experts predict that investment in green infrastructure projects will lead to decreases in the cost of energy for consumers.

Continuous technological improvements have led to a rapid fall in the cost of renewable energy in recent years, meaning some forms can already comfortably compete with fossil fuels.

Of course the experts and report writers are pro-renewable energy. No bias there. Also no mention of government subsidies.


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Since she is married now, you don't have to worry about sticking your dick in crazy.

If you’re not happy in your current marriage, perhaps you should consider marrying a ghost. I mean, it did work out for Amanda Teague.

The 45-year-old woman, who is a Jack Sparrow impersonator, was actually married to an actual man before and had five kids with him. But things didn’t work out with him, so Teague has now married a ghost named Jack. And according to Teague Jack was a Haitian pirate, who told her he is black with jet black hair, and was executed for his crimes in the 1700s.

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The Triple Dawg Dare You that went bad. Genius Award Winners.


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A special event, Tonight's Feel Good Story of The Day.

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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 09:57 PM




Comments

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1 1st?

Posted by: tbodie at January 16, 2018 09:53 PM (bF/TV)

2 Thirst!!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at January 16, 2018 09:53 PM (e9G8E)

3
Interesting. Lead photo is a beacon ... to all the World, or all the Horde.

Posted by: Arbalest at January 16, 2018 09:53 PM (FlRtG)

4 You know, I think the morons here are a little short on culture. Perhaps C.S. Lewis pondering the glories and limits of space travel could help with fix that.

https://tinyurl.com/SFCradlesong

Posted by: Zaklog the Great at January 16, 2018 09:53 PM (5qn42)

5 Hot damn. Highlight of my day.

Posted by: tbodie at January 16, 2018 09:54 PM (bF/TV)

6 Duty done.

Posted by: tbodie at January 16, 2018 09:54 PM (bF/TV)

7 If I'm in the top 10, does that make me a corgi?

Posted by: Splunge at January 16, 2018 09:55 PM (Vb4BV)

8 Illuminati?

Posted by: Miklos Molnar at January 16, 2018 09:55 PM (zCyNd)

9 rats, I used to be first once in a while. I blame Bannon.

Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at January 16, 2018 09:55 PM (ILitO)

10 Top ten

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 16, 2018 09:55 PM (R5lpX)

11 Tube Tester, FTW!

Posted by: garrett at January 16, 2018 09:57 PM (/NKm3)

12 I don't like to order the lanspresado when I'm dining with a person from a fly-over state who may be intimidated by exotic aged Italian meat products in their sandwich.

I try to be considerate.

Posted by: David Brooks at January 16, 2018 09:57 PM (KfgLN)

13 Oh, man, a tube tester. I used to actually go and use those things. To test tubes, you know.

And here it is, 2018, and I've still got tubes, because they sound better in audio gear, for some damned reason.

Posted by: Splunge at January 16, 2018 09:57 PM (Vb4BV)

14 Damn. I wanted to find out how two people finish off 10 large jars of peanut butter in a single lifetime.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 09:58 PM (KfgLN)

15 Shithole.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess of some shithole duchy at January 16, 2018 09:58 PM (cu8/f)

16 My Pope tires my ass. Goodness, couldn't this man simply keep to what he is entrusted with?

Posted by: Tonypete at January 16, 2018 09:58 PM (tr2D7)

17 OT, sure, but death knell to cray immigration here would be to give AA rights only to the extend home country gives those rights to whites (or balcks)

Posted by: The Dr. Brake Bemoray at January 16, 2018 09:59 PM (V3U1L)

18 >>I wanted to find out how two people finish off 10 large jars of peanut butter in a single lifetime.



Ask Jasper.

Posted by: garrett at January 16, 2018 09:59 PM (/NKm3)

19 That would certainly get a ship's attention.

Posted by: rickl at January 16, 2018 09:59 PM (sdi6R)

20 "My imagination has led me to look into the distant future, and there to contemplate the greatness of free America. I have beheld her walking on the waves of the mighty deep, carrying along with her tidings of great joy to distant nations. I have seen her overturning the strong places of despotism, and restoring to man his long-lost rights." John Tyler

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Well at least that was a long time ago. What's Dubya's excuse?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 16, 2018 09:59 PM (/qEW2)

21 "I think we are at the very limit. I am really afraid of this. One accident is enough to precipitate things," he replied.


Yeah Popie. They really need to get a cover for that nuclear button!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 09:59 PM (KfgLN)

22 January 16, 1996, Jamaican authorities opened fire on Jimmy Buffett's seaplane, mistaking it for a drug trafficker's plane.

Were they wrong?

U2 singer Bono was also on the plane; neither singer was injured in the incident.

Were people's naive stereotypes about the marksmanship of stoners wrong?

Posted by: Splunge at January 16, 2018 09:59 PM (Vb4BV)

23 Hey everybody

Posted by: fluffy at January 16, 2018 10:00 PM (cHbmY)

24 22 January 16, 1996, Jamaican authorities opened fire on Jimmy Buffett's seaplane, mistaking it for a drug trafficker's plane.

Were they wrong?

U2 singer Bono was also on the plane; neither singer was injured in the incident.

Were people's naive stereotypes about the marksmanship of stoners wrong?
Posted by: Splunge at January 16, 2018 09:59 PM (Vb4BV)

We will have to check with the gun owners and medical marijuana users in Pennsylvania

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 10:01 PM (3/sUh)

25
Continuous technological improvements have led to a rapid fall in the cost of renewable energy in recent years, meaning some forms can already comfortably compete with fossil fuels.

Greedy oil companies will buy up all the patents and bury them!!1! They murdered the guy who invented the 200-mph carburetor!!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 16, 2018 10:01 PM (ZGgch)

26 Local grocery store had a tube tester until I was about 15/16.

Posted by: Mr something or other at January 16, 2018 10:01 PM (GWVcB)

27 Rather than post this on the previous thread, since it is dead, just one last comment.

You know, Ikea is like the Coors brewery. You can go straight to the food/lounge.

Posted by: JAS at January 16, 2018 10:02 PM (7JbXq)

28 She's Callipygian!

Posted by: Vincent Hannah at January 16, 2018 10:02 PM (Y3RqE)

29 Greedy oil companies will buy up all the patents and bury them!!1! They murdered the guy who invented the 200-mph carburetor!!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 16, 2018 10:01 PM (ZGgch)



Right after they did in the Red Line cars, which offered cheap, efficient transportation to everybody!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 10:02 PM (KfgLN)

30 Odd how tube testers were just mentioned in the thread below.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 16, 2018 10:02 PM (DMUuz)

31 " Damn. I wanted to find out how two people finish off 10 large jars of peanut butter in a single lifetime."

If it weren't for being a fellow Moron, I would make a guess involving a large dog.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 16, 2018 10:02 PM (EyPfd)

32 hi fluffy
evening Hordesters

Posted by: booknlass at January 16, 2018 10:03 PM (J6xuH)

33 I still use tubes. I love tube amps. Tube pre-amps.
Can't stand transistors.

Posted by: navybrat, enjoying covfefe at January 16, 2018 10:03 PM (w7KSn)

34 I remember playing with the tube tester at Thrifty Drug Store when I was a kid. It always looked intriguing at first but turned out to be oddly unsatisfying in the end.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 10:04 PM (KfgLN)

35 Not far from where I'm writing this, the kosher butcher shop is long gone; across the street, the church that once stood tall is now boarded up.

But next to it stands a mosque newly built and freshly painted. English in the neighborhood is a foreign tongue and nobody knows Frank Sinatra.

The boys don't play stickball. The girls in their veils don't play hopscotch and all the cabs are driven by men from Somalia and Afghanistan.

Strangers are not greeted warmly.





In other words a shithole

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 16, 2018 10:04 PM (SiINZ)

36 "...That's a snapshot of what troubles President Trump... not the mosque, but the culture shift..."

Nothing says "America!" and "freedom" like Sharia Law and Islam.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 16, 2018 10:04 PM (H8S+R)

37 Tubes have their place.

But, so does Solid State amplification.

I like my Tube amps, but I never ever have to worry about my solid state amps not working.

Posted by: garrett at January 16, 2018 10:04 PM (/NKm3)

38 >>Damn. I wanted to find out how two people finish off 10 large jars of peanut butter in a single lifetime.

Posted by: Cicero

Not that difficult.

Posted by: Hillary and Huma at January 16, 2018 10:04 PM (2cuLk)

39 So. Mis Hum. Another fine ONT.

Posted by: tbodie at January 16, 2018 10:05 PM (bF/TV)

40 I still use tubes. I love tube amps. Tube pre-amps.
Can't stand transistors.
Posted by: navybrat, enjoying covfefe at January 16, 2018 10:03 PM (w7KSn)


GFY

Posted by: A Transistor at January 16, 2018 10:05 PM (KfgLN)

41 Mitt is shit....that's what my boss said.

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 16, 2018 10:05 PM (3HcFK)

42 You know, I don't think I have posted a comment over at GAB in over a year.
And my total may only be five or so.

Yet I still get notices of people following me.

Why?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 16, 2018 10:05 PM (EyPfd)

43 I was born and raised Catholic. I fell away from the church, but always have always felt a connection born of familiarity. Pope Frankie has been nothing short of appalling. He may truly be an anti-pope. Everything he says and does sabotages the church, and Christianity in general.

I miss John Paul II. So much.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 16, 2018 10:05 PM (bNbo2)

44 I've never seen a tube tester.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 16, 2018 10:06 PM (hMwEB)

45 jimmy buffet, bono, mitt romney, the circle of hell is complete.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 16, 2018 10:06 PM (KP5rU)

46 why on Earth does Faux Nooz keep force feeding us Juan Williams? He is instant channel changer. No dialogue possible.

Posted by: said a random dope at January 16, 2018 10:06 PM (6OUNd)

47 Lanspresado.

NOICE!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 16, 2018 10:06 PM (bNbo2)

48 37 Tubes have their place.
But, so does Solid State amplification.
Posted by: garrett at January 16, 2018 10:04 PM (/NKm3)


Absolutely. The whole crowd at the PTA meeting needs to be able to hear the speaker.

Posted by: Splunge at January 16, 2018 10:06 PM (Vb4BV)

49 Frankie is "Peter the Roman"

Last one.

Malachi

Posted by: JAS at January 16, 2018 10:07 PM (7JbXq)

50 2 hour delay for school tomorrow, ugh!

Posted by: lin-duh at January 16, 2018 10:07 PM (kufk0)

51 7 If I'm in the top 10, does that make me a corgi?
Posted by: Splunge at January 16, 2018 09:55 PM (Vb4BV)



To ask is to answer.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2018 10:07 PM (+lOpA)

52 Francis is Caesar's Pope.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 16, 2018 10:07 PM (hMwEB)

53 Yeah, I'm a fudgel. A well paid fudgel. Paid by you.

Posted by: Barry O at January 16, 2018 10:07 PM (Y3RqE)

54 The Pope is a dope.

But then again, I still haven't figured out how to set the parental controls on my son's Kindle.

But then again, I am not the purported leader of 1/4 of the world's population.

Neither should he be.

Luckily, nobody lives forever. Until then, we've had bad popes before, and the Church will survive nicely in spite of him.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 16, 2018 10:07 PM (NXsWM)

55 In addition to tube testers, remember TV repairmen?

When I was a kid, ours was a German immigrant who had been a radar operator in the Luftwaffe.

Posted by: rickl at January 16, 2018 10:07 PM (sdi6R)

56 the current pope is a Liberation Theologist.

Oprah and Obama's "Preacher" in Chicago, Rev. Wright, was/is also a Liberation Theologist.

The only thing that ideology has to do with the Lord Jesus Christ is being anti-Christ.

Posted by: booknlass at January 16, 2018 10:07 PM (J6xuH)

57 44 I've never seen a tube tester.
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 16, 2018 10:06 PM (hMwEB)

That's cuz you're a young 'ette

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 10:07 PM (3/sUh)

58 "The ONT wishes you success."

Just a nice way of saying "Good f*cking luck".

Posted by: random lurker commenter at January 16, 2018 10:08 PM (UOiT9)

59 So Bannon claimed Executive Privilege?
don't you have to be the Executive, or at least work for the Executive, to invoke his privilege? just wondering

Posted by: said a random dope at January 16, 2018 10:08 PM (6OUNd)

60 When it's a government ISP, the ISP spies on you and collects your message traffic.

When it's a private ISP, the ISP spies on you and collects your message traffic....and gives it to the gubberment.

Posted by: torabora at January 16, 2018 10:08 PM (3HcFK)

61 That's cuz you're a young 'ette

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 10:07 PM (3/sUh)

*simpers & bats eyelashes*

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 16, 2018 10:08 PM (hMwEB)

62 43 I was born and raised Catholic. I fell away from the church, but always have always felt a connection born of familiarity. Pope Frankie has been nothing short of appalling. He may truly be an anti-pope. Everything he says and does sabotages the church, and Christianity in general.

I miss John Paul II. So much.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 16, 2018 10:05 PM (bNbo2)

I'm not remotely Catholic and I miss JPII. The man had balls and integrity.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 16, 2018 10:08 PM (NWiLs)

63 >>>Pope Francis has warned that the world is just "one accident" away from a nuclear holocaust



Pope Francis should know that he's just one accident away from a new Pope.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess of some shithole duchy at January 16, 2018 10:09 PM (cu8/f)

64
I miss John Paul II. So much.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast


Hey, I miss Benedict XVI. Try to find a Latin Rite parish.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 16, 2018 10:09 PM (mqvNV)

65 50 2 hour delay for school tomorrow, ugh!
Posted by: lin-duh at January 16, 2018 10:07 PM (kufk0)

Spoken by The Texas Mother of The Year

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 10:09 PM (3/sUh)

66 Renewable energy will be cheaper than fossil fuels in two years, according to a new report.

People who say this don't understand how the power grid works.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 16, 2018 10:09 PM (h2Bdk)

67 "That's cuz you're a young 'ette"

Point of order...

All ette's are young ette's.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 16, 2018 10:09 PM (EyPfd)

68
We will have utopia when we get the government cheap internet powered by cheap renewable power.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 16, 2018 10:09 PM (IqV8l)

69 49 Frankie is "Peter the Roman"

Last one.

Malachi
Posted by: JAS at January 16, 2018 10:07 PM (7JbXq)

Horseshit.

Why do people run after silly end-of-times predictions, when Jesus himself said you will not know the hour or the day?

Just start living as if He were already on his way, and all will be well.

I once had a priest tell me that the end of the world matters considerably less than the end of myself.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 16, 2018 10:09 PM (NXsWM)

70 Speaking of Mitt, I'm taking one now.

Nice Content MisHum.

Evening Horde!

Posted by: Monk at January 16, 2018 10:09 PM (g4lFK)

71 John Tyler, 1832. 10th President of The United States of America

President John Tyler has living grandchildren (at least they were still alive in late 2016).

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 16, 2018 10:09 PM (8gDQu)

72 >>> 52 Francis is CaesarLenin's Pope.
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 16, 2018 10:07 PM (hMwEB)

;P

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 16, 2018 10:09 PM (0ReGO)

73 *waves to Miley*

Posted by: rickl at January 16, 2018 10:10 PM (sdi6R)

74 Much twattling is done via tweeting

Look, look, I used one in a sentence.

Posted by: random lurker commenter at January 16, 2018 10:10 PM (UOiT9)

75 Why did New Jersey end up with the countries most toxic waste dumps and California end up with the most lawyers?

Posted by: torabora at January 16, 2018 10:10 PM (3HcFK)

76 56 the current pope is a Liberation Theologist.

==

most of the horde are Libation Theologists

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 16, 2018 10:10 PM (hMwEB)

77 Tonypete: "My Pope tires my ass. Goodness, couldn't this man simply keep to what he is entrusted with?"

The Church wants its lucre, too. Getting proxies to drain Uncle Sugar has proven to be relatively lucrative as opposed to getting riches out of a shithole.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 16, 2018 10:10 PM (H8S+R)

78 I like my Tube amps, but I never ever have to worry about my solid state amps not working.

Tube amps are best in the winter.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at January 16, 2018 10:10 PM (IcT7t)

79
*simpers & bats eyelashes*



Hot.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2018 10:10 PM (+lOpA)

80 All ette's are young ette's.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 16, 2018 10:09 PM (EyPfd)

With large breasts, narrow waists, and bodacious bootys.

And we are armed, and know how to use them.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 16, 2018 10:10 PM (NXsWM)

81 We had a tube tester in the Biochemistry Dept I worked in in the early 70's.. also a nice supply of spare tubes..

I salvaged a number of TV's dumped to the curb back then by just replacing a tube or two!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 16, 2018 10:10 PM (5tSKk)

82 Little VIA texted that P-Cola is cancelling A-School classes tomorrow.
Possibility of 1-3" of snow.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 16, 2018 10:10 PM (EyPfd)

83 Where was Engelhard when he wrote that? Dearborn or Minneapolis?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 16, 2018 10:11 PM (/qEW2)

84 58 "The ONT wishes you success."

Just a nice way of saying "Good f*cking luck".
Posted by: random lurker commenter at January 16, 2018 10:08 PM (UOiT9)

That's a little harsh

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 10:11 PM (3/sUh)

85 All ette's are young ette's.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 16, 2018 10:09 PM (EyPfd)

Especially the older ones.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess of some shithole duchy at January 16, 2018 10:11 PM (cu8/f)

86 That last pic makes me think somebody was peeking at the last thread while making the ONT.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 16, 2018 10:11 PM (w+Jhj)

87 Don't believe in luck but I do believe in fate.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 16, 2018 10:11 PM (NWiLs)

88 What is this 'color' of which you speak?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 16, 2018 10:12 PM (nBBdT)

89 We know that North Korea has these nuclear weapons because they see how the United States in Libya for example guaranteed Gadaffi - 'we're not going to go after you, you should get rid of your nuclear weapons.' He did, then we went and led an attack that toppled Gaddafi, launching Libya into chaos that we are still seeing the results of today. North Korea sees what we did in Iraq with Saddam Hussein, with those false reports of weapons of mass destruction. And now seeing in Iran how President Trump is decertifying a nuclear deal that prevented Iran from developing their nuclear weapons, threatening the very existence and the agreement that was made.

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How to put this.... Oh yeah, Bullshit!

She's got it right about Gaddafi, but the rest is lies. First off, Saddam refused to honor the inspection agreements from Gulf 1. And, we did find chemical weapons in his regime's possession. Saddam was not trying to inspire confidence that he was out of the WMD business. He was playing a double game: a lawyered up response to the inspectors, trying to give an impression of minimal compliance, while behaving in a belligerent manner publicly.

As to Iran: the deal, whatever it is, isn't even completely public. And, what we do know of the deal is horrible. We have no way to verify that they are not building nukes.

As to the Norks, they have been pursuing nukes since at least the Clinton administration. So, the idea that their actions in that arena are inspired by all these other events that hadn't even happened when they started down that road is retarded.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 16, 2018 10:12 PM (pvjTE)

90 Hi rickl!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess of some shithole duchy at January 16, 2018 10:12 PM (cu8/f)

91 80 All ette's are young ette's.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 16, 2018 10:09 PM (EyPfd)

With large breasts, narrow waists, and bodacious bootys.

And we are armed, and know how to use them.
Posted by: tcn in AK at January 16, 2018 10:10 PM (NXsWM)


oh yeah.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2018 10:12 PM (+lOpA)

92 >>> 82 Little VIA texted that P-Cola is cancelling A-School classes tomorrow.
Possibility of 1-3" of snow.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 16, 2018 10:10 PM (EyPfd)

Algore must have visited recently.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 16, 2018 10:12 PM (0ReGO)

93 Willowed from below:

>>>Malls are still great for those people that wait 1-2
weeks before Christmas to go shopping and need to get 15 gifts. This
year I ordered a few things from Amazon, but got the rest of my shopping
done in one day at Memorial City Mall in Houston.

It was a relief to find everything I needed so I really hope they don't go away.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 16, 2018 09:54 PM (PvFoN)


I give grudging respect to Memorial City Mall and the extensive remodeling / upgrading they've done over the past decade. IIRC they were on a steep glide path to going under but they remade themselves into a legit destination.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 16, 2018 10:12 PM (QLvwG)

94 2 hour delay for school tomorrow, ugh!

My son is sleeping with his pjs inside out hoping to have a snow day tomorrow. A two hour delay means we still have to go to school at the regular time. Those school lunches aren't going to cook themselves.

Posted by: no good deed at January 16, 2018 10:12 PM (eIQHF)

95 "I like my Tube amps"

6V6's and 12AX7's all the way baby!

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 16, 2018 10:13 PM (w+Jhj)

96 86 That last pic makes me think somebody was peeking at the last thread while making the ONT.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 16, 2018 10:11 PM (w+Jhj)

No.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 10:13 PM (3/sUh)

97 Thanks MisHum!

Posted by: lin-duh at January 16, 2018 10:13 PM (kufk0)

98 I like Jimmy Buffet but it's hard to separate his music from his politics. sometimes.

Posted by: Eromero at January 16, 2018 10:14 PM (zLDYs)

99 Genius Award winner apparently a hot-headed muzzie. So no great loss.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2018 10:14 PM (sD2WN)

100
Office closed again tomorrow. Step 1: cancel alarms.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 16, 2018 10:14 PM (swZkE)

101 And we are armed, and know how to use them.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 16, 2018 10:10 PM (NXsWM)

(wimpers)

Posted by: Michelle Fields at January 16, 2018 10:14 PM (Y3RqE)

102 80 All ette's are young ette's.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 16, 2018 10:09 PM (EyPfd)

With large breasts, narrow waists, and bodacious bootys.

And we are armed, and know how to use them.
Posted by: tcn in AK at January 16, 2018 10:10 PM (NXsWM)


Switching to left-handed typing.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 16, 2018 10:14 PM (h2Bdk)

103 Um, a glitch on that congresswoman thing? Was that Gabbard? Read the gist of her TV comments yesterday - complete idiotic nonsense.


The Norks have sought nukes for decades, it was in no way a response to Iraq or Libya. Idiotic. And both Libya and Iraq sought nukes before, um, "Iraq and Libya". Way before. And the deal hasn't/won't prevent Iran from nuking up. And the intel estimates (that's why they're called "estimates", snowflakes) on Iraq of course did not assess nukes as being a short-term probability.


But aside from the total factual fail, there was the rationalizing of proliferation by dangerous adversaries, when there's an alternative (stopping them). Idiotic.


Don't people occasionally make positive noises about this woman? WTF? Dumb as Patty Murray, it would appear.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2018 10:14 PM (QDnY+)

104
Rakescold - A sharp-tongued shrew

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 16, 2018 10:14 PM (nBBdT)

105 TVs are so much better now in quality and price then in the '60's. Amazing how fast some products improve. What used to cost a few month's wages now costs a week's and the pictures are much better, they don't need to "warm up" and have a remote control (formerly known as children).

And then some other products have gone to hell in the same time period. Clothing, small appliances furniture come to mind.

Posted by: cfo mom at January 16, 2018 10:14 PM (RfzVr)

106 Engelhard's quote: in the car tonight on the way home from work I listened to part of Elder's show. He was playing Don Lemon's interview of MLK Jr.'s nephew, Issac Ferris, who was advancing a similar idea about the despair Americans are feeling about the loss of our traditional culture and President Trump's understanding of it. Although he seemed to be cynical about it.

'course, Lemon can only think of one thing to talk about. But Ferris seemed sharp.

Posted by: booknlass at January 16, 2018 10:15 PM (J6xuH)

107 "No.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian"

Just a great case of synchronicity then.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 16, 2018 10:15 PM (w+Jhj)

108 97 Thanks MisHum!
Posted by: lin-duh at January 16, 2018 10:13 PM (kufk0)

You are so welcome!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 10:15 PM (3/sUh)

109 Especially the older ones.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess of some shithole duchy at January 16, 2018 10:11 PM (cu8/f)

How would you know ?

Posted by: tbodie at January 16, 2018 10:15 PM (bF/TV)

110
I like Jimmy Buffet but it's hard to separate his music from his politics. sometimes.


Posted by: Eromero at January 16, 2018 10:14 PM (zLDYs)

I suspect he is smart enough to know that a large part of his fan base falls into the Trump-friendly demographic.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2018 10:15 PM (sD2WN)

111 104
Rakescold - A sharp-tongued shrew
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 16, 2018 10:14 PM (nBBdT)


Hahahahahaha. Why are there so many different words for that same thing?

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 16, 2018 10:15 PM (h2Bdk)

112 And then some other products have gone to hell in the same time period.

==

major appliances - lots more functions but shitty lifespans

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 16, 2018 10:16 PM (hMwEB)

113 Hey Miley!

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 16, 2018 10:16 PM (NWiLs)

114 And then some other products have gone to hell in the same time period. Clothing, small appliances furniture come to mind.
Posted by: cfo mom at January 16, 2018 10:14 PM (RfzVr)


I wish I could go back and buy a freighter full of phosphate-laden laundry soap.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 16, 2018 10:17 PM (h2Bdk)

115 "I like my Tube amps"

6V6's and 12AX7's all the way baby!
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
------------
Just seeing the numbers triggers a subconscious olfactory detection of hot dust.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 16, 2018 10:17 PM (w1zJX)

116 Ya hey dare.. the Manitowoc guys know da fishing dere, eh?

Been fishing up there myself.. nice Muskie fishin'!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 16, 2018 10:17 PM (5tSKk)

117 So, did we ever decide which washing machine was best? *ducks & runs away*

Posted by: lin-duh at January 16, 2018 10:17 PM (kufk0)

118 That's a little harsh
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 10:11 PM (3/sUh)

Aw c'mon Mis Hum, you know they don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of even getting a hearing.

But, yeah, I wish them success too.
Just not gonna hold my breath or whatever.

Posted by: random lurker commenter at January 16, 2018 10:17 PM (UOiT9)

119 107 "No.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian"

Just a great case of synchronicity then.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 16, 2018 10:15 PM (w+Jhj)

I had the brought to you picture in my picture folder for about 6 weeks. I put the ONT together several hours before it is posted.

Now I've told you too much and I will have to ban you.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 10:18 PM (3/sUh)

120 I've bought way too many flat screen tvs in the last 20 years.
Sure, they look great. Until one day they don't even boot up.
On the other hand I have an old CRT tv from the Reagan era that still works like it did the day I bought it.
And it warms the house in winter.

Posted by: navybrat, enjoying covfefe at January 16, 2018 10:18 PM (w7KSn)

121 I wish I could go back and buy a freighter full of phosphate-laden laundry soap.
Posted by: Ace's liver
----------

The original 409 cleaner.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 16, 2018 10:18 PM (w1zJX)

122 Lady tried to drive past my boy's stopped school bus today while I was waiting at the bottom of the steps for him to climb down.

Driver, drivers assistant, and I were NOT amused.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 16, 2018 10:18 PM (w+Jhj)

123 Hey MisHum, Charlie Berens I'd bringing the Manitowoc minute show to our town on March 1&3. C'mon down. Tickets are only $20

Posted by: Pete Seria at January 16, 2018 10:18 PM (2WfB0)

124 118 That's a little harsh
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 10:11 PM (3/sUh)

Aw c'mon Mis Hum, you know they don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of even getting a hearing.

But, yeah, I wish them success too.
Just not gonna hold my breath or whatever.
Posted by: random lurker commenter at January 16, 2018 10:17 PM (UOiT9

I'm sorry random, i forgot this



or this

/////

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 10:19 PM (3/sUh)

125 That's quite a lighthouse!

Posted by: Cthulhu at January 16, 2018 10:19 PM (12U9o)

126 And we guaranteed
Ukraine's long term security
If they gave up nukes.

How's that working out for them?

Posted by: Haiku Guy at January 16, 2018 10:19 PM (N+zBw)

127 I remember playing with the tube tester at Thrifty
Drug Store when I was a kid. It always looked intriguing at first but
turned out to be oddly unsatisfying in the end.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 10:04 PM (KfgLN)

Drug store tube testers are emission testers. They treat all tubes as diodes, and check only if the cathode emits enough electrons.
Service-shop tube testers check mutual conductance, which is a better measure of whether or not a tube will amplify.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2018 10:20 PM (sD2WN)

128
We have a separate washer and dryer for the dog bedding. We look for the biggest, dumbest ones with no features at all. Scratch and dent ones are fine.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 16, 2018 10:20 PM (m31NN)

129 Hi Insomniac!

tbodie - one of life's Mysteries.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess of some shithole duchy at January 16, 2018 10:20 PM (cu8/f)

130 6V6's and 12AX7's all the way baby!

3-500z for the win! And the big electricity bill.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at January 16, 2018 10:20 PM (IcT7t)

131 Couth.....is that really you?.?

Posted by: lin-duh at January 16, 2018 10:20 PM (kufk0)

132 Ace's liver: "I wish I could go back and buy a freighter full of phosphate-laden laundry soap."

Supplement with TSP.

But IANAL so take such advice with a grain of salt. I use it sometimes on hard-to-wash items when I need industrial strength.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 16, 2018 10:21 PM (H8S+R)

133
Why did New Jersey end up with the countries most toxic waste dumps and California end up with the most lawyers?
Posted by: torabora at January 16, 2018 10:10 PM (3HcFK)







Jersey got first choice.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 16, 2018 10:21 PM (eXA4G)

134 123 Hey MisHum, Charlie Berens I'd bringing the Manitowoc minute show to our town on March 1&3. C'mon down. Tickets are only $20
Posted by: Pete Seria at January 16, 2018 10:18 PM (2WfB0)

He's up my way on the 2nd but show is sold out.

Sheboygan is a lovely town but I'm not headed there

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 10:21 PM (3/sUh)

135 >>I've never seen a tube tester.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books!

Yoo hoo.
*waves*

Posted by: Sandra Flook at January 16, 2018 10:21 PM (2cuLk)

136 I wish I could go back and buy a freighter full of phosphate-laden laundry soap.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 16, 2018 10:17 PM (h2Bdk)

You can go buy the phosphate at the hardware store and add it yourself according to our local fix-it guy type radio shows. If you want to be a Gaia killer and subversive and all.

Posted by: cfo mom at January 16, 2018 10:21 PM (RfzVr)

137
Lanspresado.



The man-splaining administrator of Cloud City.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 16, 2018 10:22 PM (QLvwG)

138 They ought paint and repair the local mosque near me - what a shithole!

It used to be a very nice Episcopal Church, an historic building, and a local landmark... When the congregation split with ECUSA over you-know-what and joined the Anglican Communion, they were kicked out... After years of court battles, which, of course, ECUSA won, the building was sold to a local Muslim slum lord for a small fraction of its market value even though the original congregation was willing to buy their own church at the full price!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at January 16, 2018 10:22 PM (e9G8E)

139 Yes, just a cascade of BS tonight. No, Mitt, try learning some American history. Immigration has always been and remains 100% a discretionary policy of a sovereign state, and in the past has been increased, decreased, filtered, and stopped completely, based on conditions and needs and popular sentiment.


There's no American value that has anything to do with immigration. Asylum and refugee cases are separate - but also entirely discretionary - and the US owes nothing on this score, having done more to help, protect, and in some cases admit as immigrants more refugees than all other nations put together.


Vapid, cynical pieces of work like Mitt trust that all Americans will continue to submit to the idiotic substitution of international social engineering and moral narcissism for intelligent policy in this area. Looking not so good there, pal, you'll have to look to grow your church's headcount some other way. Is only an act of god or some health issue our only hope to keep this slimy charlatan out of the Senate?

Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2018 10:22 PM (QDnY+)

140
"The poverty of an aspiring immigrant's nation of origin is as irrelevant as their race. The sentiment attributed to POTUS is inconsistent w/ America's history and antithetical to American values. May our memory of Dr. King buoy our hope for unity, greatness, & "charity for all." Mitt Romney

Mitt can eat a bag of non-alcoholic, uncaffeinated dicks.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 16, 2018 10:22 PM (NWiLs)

141 "Now I've told you too much and I will have to ban you.





Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian"

I throw myself upon the mercy of the court.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 16, 2018 10:23 PM (w+Jhj)

142 Charlie's first Sheboygan show sold quick. The second still has a few left

Posted by: Pete Seria at January 16, 2018 10:23 PM (2WfB0)

143 I mean, Cthulhu...is that really you?

Posted by: lin-duh at January 16, 2018 10:23 PM (kufk0)

144 37 Tubes have their place.

But, so does Solid State amplification.

I like my Tube amps, but I never ever have to worry about my solid state amps not working.
Posted by: garrett at January 16, 2018 10:04 PM (/NKm3)

Tubes vs. Transistor showdown? This has the makings of a longbow/crossbow fight.

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at January 16, 2018 10:23 PM (mUKri)

145 Two 50"+ muskies in the boat same day, pretty good fishin'.

Posted by: davidt at January 16, 2018 10:23 PM (Y3RqE)

146 'Don't people occasionally make positive noises about this woman? WTF? '

She is not unattractive in swimwear.

But she has the logic and mental gifts of a retarded hamster.

And a strong desire to Mother people.
In the socialist manner of mothering.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 16, 2018 10:24 PM (EyPfd)

147
Why did New Jersey end up with the countries most toxic waste dumps and California end up with the most lawyers?

Posted by: torabora at January 16, 2018 10:10 PM (3HcFK)

Jersey got first pick?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2018 10:24 PM (sD2WN)

148 I mean, Cthulhu...is that really you?

I think that's someone just playing sock puppet games.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at January 16, 2018 10:25 PM (IcT7t)

149 That's quite a lighthouse!
Posted by: Cthulhu
----------

I'd like to know how it was synched, and if it was taken in only one rotation of the light, or multiple rotations.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 16, 2018 10:25 PM (5OO3x)

150 Looks like the particularly stupid pope (how the H did someone this ignorant become a cardinal? I mean, even from Argentina?) is as ignorant as people in Hawaii.


The Norks are nowhere close to even glimpsing the ability to hit HI with a missile. Almost certain that they never will be.


Reading about the hysteria and idiocy there during the false alarm, one is reminded of how the US, incredibly, elected Obama president. What f***ing idiots.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2018 10:25 PM (QDnY+)

151 Class 'D' v Class 'A'

Posted by: garrett at January 16, 2018 10:25 PM (/NKm3)

152 With large breasts, narrow waists, and bodacious bootys.

And we are armed, and know how to use them.
Posted by: tcn
---
And the ones I've met in person are legged too!

Posted by: Tonypete at January 16, 2018 10:26 PM (tr2D7)

153 My PS Audio Amp has been 'On' for 14 years.

Never a hiccup.



Posted by: garrett at January 16, 2018 10:26 PM (/NKm3)

154 Renewable energy will not be cheaper than fossel fuels in two years or ever... it is not scalable and not even supportable without huge government subsidies.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 16, 2018 10:26 PM (FTXAT)

155 Ah, ok. I thought I also saw country Boy on an earlier thread.

Posted by: lin-duh at January 16, 2018 10:26 PM (kufk0)

156 Thanks for the ONT MisHum!

What a crock of shit from the Kakisocracy of UK on renewable energy being cheaper by 2020!

Posted by: texcat at January 16, 2018 10:27 PM (wf3RQ)

157 referencing the last thread - one of the most interesting mall conversions is in south Shreveport, where a mega Baptist Church bought an entire mall and converted it into their church - I think the main sanctuary room is the old Dillards.

What's really weird is that there's still a Burlington Coat Store at one end, since they didn't want to give up their lease even when everyone else sold out. So it's one stop shopping for Salvation and all of your Outer Wear needs, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 16, 2018 10:27 PM (V2Yro)

158 mark bolin used solid state and he had a great sound

Posted by: vizzy at January 16, 2018 10:27 PM (s5Khz)

159 6V6's and 12AX7's all the way baby!


Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 16, 2018 10:13 PM (w+Jhj)

All the cool kids are using '45's and 2A3's, for that clean triode sound.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2018 10:27 PM (sD2WN)

160
3-500z for the win! And the big electricity bill.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned


3CX3000A7

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 16, 2018 10:27 PM (IqV8l)

161 >>Two 50"+ muskies in the boat same day, pretty good fishin'.


Damn fine.

Posted by: garrett at January 16, 2018 10:27 PM (/NKm3)

162 149 That's quite a lighthouse!
Posted by: Cthulhu
----------

I'd like to know how it was synched, and if it was taken in only one rotation of the light, or multiple rotations.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 16, 2018 10:25 PM (5OO3x)


Wouldn't they just have timed one rotation and then done exposures at intervals? That's how I would have done it.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 16, 2018 10:27 PM (h2Bdk)

163 Posted by: texcat at January 16, 2018 10:27 PM (wf3RQ)

You're welcome.

So were you blasted with winter or did you skate by ok?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 10:28 PM (3/sUh)

164 So, got home late. Was steaming a bag of broccoli because I was too lazy to steam real broccoli.

Put the bag in for seven minutes. Walked off. Happened to be walking by the microwave when it was seconds from finishing. Instead of the long loud beeps declaring the microwave was done there was only a short chirp then the timer reset with the microwave going for seven more minutes.

That can't be good.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 16, 2018 10:28 PM (MTjB1)

165 "All the cool kids are using '45's and 2A3's, for that clean triode sound.


Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon"

My tube amp experience is with guitar amps, not stereos. You *want* a little distortion.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 16, 2018 10:30 PM (w+Jhj)

166 Is it a tube or solid state microwave?

Posted by: davidt at January 16, 2018 10:30 PM (Y3RqE)

167 I like my women the way I like my tube testers; push it in, take it out, twist it around, and try another until you get it just right.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 16, 2018 10:30 PM (+y/Ru)

168 "My imagination has led me to look into the distant future, and there to contemplate the greatness of free America. I have beheld her walking on the waves of the mighty deep, carrying along with her tidings of great joy to distant nations. I have seen her overturning the strong places of despotism, and restoring to man his long-lost rights." John Tyler, 1832. 10th President of The United States of America

Anyone wonder why the self-appointed global ruling class hates America?

Posted by: rickl at January 16, 2018 10:30 PM (sdi6R)

169 Alberta Oil Peon: "Jersey got first pick?"

Ha! "Best Lawyer Joke of the Day" Award.

Super-Duper Platinum Subscription to AoSHQ and coupon for 25% Off your first shelf in the mail.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 16, 2018 10:30 PM (H8S+R)

170 3CX3000A7

Good tube, but I don't have a tie tack for those.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at January 16, 2018 10:30 PM (IcT7t)

171 Renewable energy will not be cheaper than fossel fuels in two years or ever... it is not scalable and not even supportable without huge government subsidies.
Posted by: redbanzai at January 16, 2018 10:26 PM (FTXAT)



In fairness, the giant complex of mirrors and heating towers in the CA desert near the Nevada border is a remarkably efficient method of cooking birds in mid-flight.

Posted by: A Transistor at January 16, 2018 10:30 PM (KfgLN)

172 164 So, got home late. Was steaming a bag of broccoli because I was too lazy to steam real broccoli.

Put the bag in for seven minutes. Walked off. Happened to be walking by the microwave when it was seconds from finishing. Instead of the long loud beeps declaring the microwave was done there was only a short chirp then the timer reset with the microwave going for seven more minutes.

That can't be good.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 16, 2018 10:28 PM (MTjB1)


Hey roundeye, stop complain and eat broccoli.

Posted by: Shezhen microwave foundry at January 16, 2018 10:30 PM (h2Bdk)

173 >>I like my women the way I like my tube testers; push it in, take it out, twist it around, and try another until you get it just right.


Try Canal Street.

Posted by: Guy Who Couldn't Find a Whore at January 16, 2018 10:31 PM (/NKm3)

174 I used to go down to the Western Auto store to use their tube tester.

Days gone by...

Posted by: West at January 16, 2018 10:31 PM (knKQ1)

175
Is it a tube or solid state microwave?
Posted by: davidt


Hybrid

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 16, 2018 10:31 PM (IqV8l)

176 Is it a tube or solid state microwave?
Posted by: davidt at January




not sure. brand new. came with the shithole apartment.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 16, 2018 10:31 PM (MTjB1)

177 On a lighter note, I would like to give a shout out to Bill Kristol for a speedy recovery as he convalesces from his partial Hysterectomy surgery.

Posted by: Tentotwo at January 16, 2018 10:31 PM (yhf6w)

178 Cooth???

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at January 16, 2018 10:31 PM (e9G8E)

179 That picture on top, that's how I feel whenever I post on this blog. Right? Right?

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 16, 2018 10:31 PM (V2Yro)

180 All the best microwaves are Class 'D/A' these days.

Posted by: garrett at January 16, 2018 10:32 PM (/NKm3)

181 Tuesday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/953332759841435648

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/953332958919843842

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/953333069217435648

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/953333259940790275

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/953333375292657665

Posted by: kbdabear at January 16, 2018 10:32 PM (eh0Va)

182 177 On a lighter note, I would like to give a shout out to Bill Kristol for a speedy recovery as he convalesces from his partial Hysterectomy surgery.
Posted by: Tentotwo at January 16, 2018 10:31 PM (yhf6w)



Godblessallthempygmiesdownnewguinea.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2018 10:32 PM (+lOpA)

183 >> Switching to left-handed typing.

Luckily, I'm ambi-damn-dextrous, at least for that.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 16, 2018 10:33 PM (8O3HH)

184 Wouldn't they just have timed one rotation and then done exposures at intervals? That's how I would have done it.
Posted by: Ace's liver
------------

Well, that's easy to say, but not so easy to do. I'm inclined to believe that their camera has a fixed or adjustable frame rate 'Auto' or movie mode, and they just shot a single rotation. Again, not so easy to do, but doable.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 16, 2018 10:33 PM (nBBdT)

185 So were you blasted with winter or did you skate by ok?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 10:28 PM (3/sUh)

Pretty much south and east of DFW got the worst of it as far as drive-ability issues. Around the Metroplex it wasn't bad at all! Still my staff of 2 got the day off (me and the lovely Mrs. texcat)...

Thanks for asking!

Posted by: texcat at January 16, 2018 10:33 PM (wf3RQ)

186 When I was a kid, ours was a German immigrant who had been a radar operator in the Luftwaffe.
Posted by: rickl at January 16, 2018 10:07 PM (sdi6R)


If he was able to curl up and work inside the console of the big Zenith jobs the chances were that he was the radar operator in the middle seat of s BF-110

Posted by: Kindltot at January 16, 2018 10:33 PM (2K6fY)

187 177 On a lighter note, I would like to give a shout out to Bill Kristol for a speedy recovery as he convalesces from his partial Hysterectomy surgery.
Posted by: Tentotwo at January 16, 2018 10:31 PM (yhf6w)


It didn't take. He's still hysterical.

Posted by: Splunge at January 16, 2018 10:33 PM (Vb4BV)

188 More Tuesday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/953333566049587201

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/953333678012289024

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/953333834044624896

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/953333932220735488

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/953334026118496257

Posted by: kbdabear at January 16, 2018 10:33 PM (eh0Va)

189 "Nevada border is a remarkably efficient method of cooking birds in mid-flight."

Is it really efficient.

Or merely effective?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 16, 2018 10:34 PM (EyPfd)

190 Well, roads got a covering of snow on it already. No notice from the school yet on closing or not.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 16, 2018 10:34 PM (w+Jhj)

191 In fairness, the giant complex of mirrors and
heating towers in the CA desert near the Nevada border is a remarkably
efficient method of cooking birds in mid-flight.

Posted by: A Transistor at January 16, 2018 10:30 PM (KfgLN)

Too true... giant coastal wind farms are remarkably good at killing birds too. If the US needed a way to kill all the birds, I would definitely cosign renewable energy methods.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 16, 2018 10:34 PM (FTXAT)

192 Poor John Tyler, all Right-Thinking Historians hate and despise him, because he swore allegiance to the Confederacy as an ex-President, and then he died in 1862 without every having renounced it. So he pretty much gets airbrushed out of the lexicon for his heresy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 16, 2018 10:34 PM (V2Yro)

193 texcat: "What a crock of shit from the Kakisocracy of UK on renewable energy being cheaper by 2020!"

The Algorists of the world would implement taxes to make that come true. Markets have nothing to do with it. Redistributive Wealth would make all of their prognostications come true.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 16, 2018 10:34 PM (H8S+R)

194 From the forgotten words link>>>

Kakistocracy (19th century) - Government by the least qualified or worst people.


Posted by: cfo mom at January 16, 2018 10:34 PM (RfzVr)

195 Mitt is shitt

Posted by: CN at January 16, 2018 10:34 PM (5gaNQ)

196 Uh oh. The "Represent Your Tubes!" game. There's like 6 or seven different kinds in there. Let's see, I'll just pick the biggest ones...

Go KT88!

Posted by: Splunge at January 16, 2018 10:35 PM (Vb4BV)

197 "Nevada border is a remarkably efficient method of cooking birds in mid-flight."

Is it really efficient.

Or merely effective?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 16, 2018 10:34 PM (EyPfd


I meant to say "entertaining."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 10:35 PM (KfgLN)

198 The issue with ALL the renewable energy sources is they are not consistent...

Wind does not always blow. And for Solar, we have this thing called NIGHT...

So you must ALSO have another energy infrastructure of other means of producing energy, for when those fail.

The ONLY way it makes sense for renewables is if the FUEL cost of those other methods, is greater than INFRASTRUCTURE cost of the renewable method...

Which... does not really pencil out.

Posted by: Don Q., USN (Ret) at January 16, 2018 10:35 PM (NgKpN)

199 I tested my tube. Electronically.

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at January 16, 2018 10:35 PM (t5m5e)

200 171 Renewable energy will not be cheaper than fossel fuels in two years or ever... it is not scalable and not even supportable without huge government subsidies.
Posted by: redbanzai at January 16, 2018 10:26 PM (FTXAT)


In fairness, the giant complex of mirrors and heating towers in the CA desert near the Nevada border is a remarkably efficient method of cooking birds in mid-flight.
Posted by: A Transistor at January 16, 2018 10:30 PM (KfgLN)


Those damn things only produce 20% of their rated peak. That's worse than the most ardent boosters expected.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 16, 2018 10:35 PM (h2Bdk)

201 SMOD test firing over Illinois and Michigan

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/953467838441906177

Posted by: kbdabear at January 16, 2018 10:35 PM (eh0Va)

202 Posted by: kbdabear

Out on the town, eh? Those are some LBDs (very L) I can get behind. Literally.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 16, 2018 10:35 PM (8O3HH)

203 194 From the forgotten words link>>>

Kakistocracy (19th century) - Government by the least qualified or worst people.


Posted by: cfo mom at January 16, 2018 10:34 PM (RfzVr)

So, the US Senate?

Posted by: Don Q., USN (Ret) at January 16, 2018 10:35 PM (NgKpN)

204 Goofing on Corky Booker's little temper tantrum today.

http://bit.ly/2Ddm6az

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 16, 2018 10:36 PM (+y/Ru)

205 The clock started ticking from the time Sen. Ted Kennedy pushed through the 1965 Hart- Celler Act.



That is from the linked quote/article above....Engelhard.

That is the Act I'm referring to when I blame Ted Kennedy for our current immigration woes, and how it has changed our country.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 16, 2018 10:36 PM (eXZrW)

206 Renewable energy will not be cheaper than fossel fuels in two years or ever... it is not scalable and not even supportable without huge government subsidies.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 16, 2018 10:26 PM (FTXAT)


It all comes down to a question of storage. Whether it be batteries or flywheels or compressed air or whatever. The storage problem (capacity, size, and cost) is the issue that determines whether most renewables will be competitive or not. Right now, it doesn't look promising for some time to come.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 16, 2018 10:36 PM (8gDQu)

207 My tube amp experience is with guitar amps, not stereos. You *want* a little distortion.


Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 16, 2018 10:30 PM (w+Jhj)

I am sure you could over-drive them to get the distortion you seek. But it might not be the same order of harmonic distortion. Would be interesting to play with.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2018 10:36 PM (sD2WN)

208 203; That's a Cuckistocracy

Posted by: CN at January 16, 2018 10:36 PM (5gaNQ)

209 >> I tested my tube. Electronically.

You know, I'd bet money that there was at least one idiot who stuck his dick in the tube tester back in the day.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 16, 2018 10:37 PM (8O3HH)

210 Posted by: kbdabear at January 16, 2018 10:33 PM (eh0Va)


What a shame to spend so on those dresses when they're worn for such a short duration.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 16, 2018 10:37 PM (QLvwG)

211 And the complete lie about "renewable" energy. As noted, it is nowhere close to being viable or "sustainable" economically, and is simply unsuited to anything other than stand-alone, supplementary, or niche applications.


The world is awash in lies. Most of which serve to make us, or support the effort to make us, less prosperous, less free, and less secure.


It's fantastic that EPA is being turned upside down, but as with the Paris accord thing, there's really no way to duck, bob and weave, and avoid confronting the lies head-on. The rationale was "bad deal", which was purely a dodge. There is no "good deal" when the underlying issue doesn't exist.


I get that Pruitt seems to be taking a very gradual approach. But this could be a brief, 4-year break in the decades'-long destruction of science, and the endumbenning of the populace and culture. There may not be that much time.


Don't just zero out ridiculous programs - eviscerate their alleged rationales, with in-your-face actual science and economics. Educate. The civic culture is too ravaged for finesse and patience. Some urgency and boldness are also called for.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2018 10:37 PM (QDnY+)

212 IMO, more federal money needs to be invested in perpetual motion research. That's where the real energy breakthroughs are likely to occur.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 10:38 PM (KfgLN)

213 Kakistocracy (19th century) - Government by the least qualified or worst people.


Posted by: cfo mom at January 16, 2018 10:34 PM (RfzVr)


The OED says that's a "shitholocracy".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 16, 2018 10:38 PM (8gDQu)

214 Same shithole apartment has decided everyone has to use the "valet garbage service." You have to put your garbage out beween 6pm and 8pm for pick up.


Should you set your garbage out earlier or bring your bin in after 9pm you get some fine. You are no longer allowed to simply walk your garbage to the rubbish room and throw it down the chute because they locked the doors.

So now every night between 6pm and 9pm the hallways resemble some back alley in chinatown. Even funnier, some fucktards never got them memo and are not smart enough to read the sign on the rubbish room door so they pile their garbage up, in the hallway, in front of the rubbish room.

You know that bs about mexicans doing the jobs Americans won't do? Well the people doing this job are white as the fresh driven snow somewhere nice.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 16, 2018 10:38 PM (MTjB1)

215 185 So were you blasted with winter or did you skate by ok?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 10:28 PM (3/sUh)

East Texas here, entire town was covered with 2 inches of snow on top of an inch of solid ice - high today was 24 so nothing melted. Entire town was shut down all day, will probably be shut down again tomorrow, and going down to 13 degrees tonight. yuck.

I got out in my truck and was able to get around a bit, but it was more treacherous than even I thought it would be, and I actually know how to drive on ice. didn't dare to get over 15 mph even on roads that weren't too thick, kept it in L1 and L2.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 16, 2018 10:38 PM (V2Yro)

216 You know, I'd bet money that there was at least one idiot who stuck his dick in the tube tester back in the day.

To get it in there he would have to have a pretty small tube.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at January 16, 2018 10:38 PM (IcT7t)

217 Misanthropic Humanitarian

Thanks for another in a long series of great ONTs.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 16, 2018 10:38 PM (hyuyC)

218 177 On a lighter note, I would like to give a shout out to Bill Kristol for a speedy recovery as he convalesces from his partial Hysterectomy surgery.
Posted by: Tentotwo at January 16, 2018 10:31 PM (yhf6w)

So he and Bradley Manning are sistas?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 10:38 PM (3/sUh)

219 209 You know, I'd bet money that there was at least one idiot who stuck his dick in the tube tester back in the day.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 16, 2018 10:37 PM (8O3HH)


Uh, the pin holes are really really little. Obama himself...

Posted by: Splunge at January 16, 2018 10:39 PM (Vb4BV)

220 You know, I'd bet money that there was at least one idiot who stuck his dick in the tube tester back in the day.

Well sure. That's a given.

It's probably covered in the manual.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 10:39 PM (KfgLN)

221 Should you set your garbage out earlier or bring your bin in after 9pm you get some fine. You are no longer allowed to simply walk your garbage to the rubbish room and throw it down the chute because they locked the doors.


Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 16, 2018 10:38 PM (MTjB1)


Make a bumpkey. Problem solved.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 16, 2018 10:39 PM (8gDQu)

222 Too true... giant coastal wind farms are remarkably good at killing birds too. If the US needed a way to kill all the birds, I would definitely cosign renewable energy methods.
Posted by: redbanzai at January 16, 2018 10:34 PM (FTXAT)


Who could forget this gem?

https://tinyurl.com/q2uww6g

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 16, 2018 10:39 PM (h2Bdk)

223 But aside from the total factual fail, there was the rationalizing of proliferation by dangerous adversaries, when there's an alternative (stopping them). Idiotic.

Don't people occasionally make positive noises about this woman? WTF? Dumb as Patty Murray, it would appear.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2018 10:14 PM (QDnY+)


========

Heh. Maybe Gabbard was subtly implying Obama was an idiot for letting things get this far.

/s

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 16, 2018 10:39 PM (/qEW2)

224 Wild morning: 'I wish I had killed more of the mother-------,' says illegal immigrant accused of killing two cops

More infuriating details.

http://bit.ly/2FLAFUG


Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 16, 2018 10:40 PM (+y/Ru)

225 Well, I began teaching my university class today. Early European History, woo hoo! I'm going to pretend I did fairly well at it; the students were laughing, and I'm pretty sure they were laughing *with* me. Now I just have to be informative as well as entertaining, which....yikes.

Posted by: T at January 16, 2018 10:40 PM (MmeCn)

226 Oh... and Mitt Romney is a total tool and also dead wrong about the poverty of immigrants not mattering. The United States is not a giant social services agency for the world and immigrants should only be let in if it benefits US. If it benefits THEM secondarily... GREAT. If it doesn't, they can choose to stay in their home countries and no skin off our nose.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 16, 2018 10:41 PM (FTXAT)

227 Well, I began teaching my university class today. Early European History, woo hoo!


How early? Like, Neanderthal early?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 10:41 PM (KfgLN)

228 Ha! "Best Lawyer Joke of the Day" Award.



Super-Duper Platinum Subscription to AoSHQ and coupon for 25% Off your first shelf in the mail.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 16, 2018 10:30 PM (H8S+R)

Ill-Tempered Cur beat me to it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2018 10:41 PM (sD2WN)

229 I miss John Paul II. So much.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 16, 2018 10:05 PM (bNbo2)

I am a Jew, and I miss him too!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2018 10:41 PM (wYseH)

230 Cicero: "IMO, more federal money needs to be invested in perpetual motion research. That's where the real energy breakthroughs are likely to occur."

That and cold fusion. It's the tag team of superpower.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 16, 2018 10:42 PM (H8S+R)

231 226: Yes, enough of the recipients for life and the fake refugees from somalia

Posted by: CN at January 16, 2018 10:42 PM (5gaNQ)

232 I miss Popes that don't suck.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2018 10:42 PM (+lOpA)

233 229: I'd settle for Benedict

Posted by: CN at January 16, 2018 10:42 PM (5gaNQ)

234 1. Khadaffi gave up his nukes to Bush because he saw what happened to Hussein.
2. Hillary double-crossed Khadaffi because she wanted a "I'm Tough!"-campaign commercial. She botched it so badly that Amb. Stevens was probably killed with the arms she provided.
3. Gabbard is dead wrong about the Iran Deal. It doesn't prevent nukes--it guarantees them. In about 7 years --and that's if they don't cheat--which they are, every day.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at January 16, 2018 10:42 PM (Ndje9)

235 I miss Popes that don't suck.
Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2018 10:42 PM (+lOpA)


Word, my child.

Posted by: Alexander VI at January 16, 2018 10:43 PM (KfgLN)

236 Make a bumpkey. Problem solved.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January




lol. have already asked for a key, since this is stupid.

they are restricting when you can throw your garbage away. who does that? who even thinks to negotiate garbage hours when you move into a shithole. this is how shitholes are made.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 16, 2018 10:43 PM (MTjB1)

237 'I am a Jew, and I miss him too! '

You are?


When the hell did this happen?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 16, 2018 10:43 PM (EyPfd)

238 198 The issue with ALL the renewable energy sources is they are not consistent...

Wind does not always blow. And for Solar, we have this thing called NIGHT...

So you must ALSO have another energy infrastructure of other means of producing energy, for when those fail.

The ONLY way it makes sense for renewables is if the FUEL cost of those other methods, is greater than INFRASTRUCTURE cost of the renewable method...

Which... does not really pencil out.
Posted by: Don Q., USN (Ret) at January 16, 2018 10:35 PM (NgKpN)

One word: nuclear. But of course the green weenies won't allow it, especially since there's far less opportunity for those sweet, sweet government subsidies.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 16, 2018 10:43 PM (NWiLs)

239 >> Uh, the pin holes are really really little. Obama himself...

You know, I couldn't even see that. I was assuming the black sockets were actually holes, recessed a little, but now I can see they're just flush.

Oh, well, if there's a will, there's a way.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 16, 2018 10:43 PM (8O3HH)

240 3 Kakistocracy (19th century) - Government by the least qualified or worst people.

I wonder if it could be any other.

Posted by: t-bird at January 16, 2018 10:43 PM (cW490)

241 I got out in my truck and was able to get around a bit, but it was more treacherous than even I thought it would be, and I actually know how to drive on ice. didn't dare to get over 15 mph even on roads that weren't too thick, kept it in L1 and L2.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 16, 2018 10:38 PM (V2Yro)

Empathy for those that had to deal with it more so than us here! Saw some logging trucks on the vidya that looked to be on 59 sliding down the HWY...

Posted by: texcat at January 16, 2018 10:44 PM (wf3RQ)

242 Trump medical exam deniers: girthers.

http://bit.ly/2B67lVb

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 16, 2018 10:44 PM (+y/Ru)

243 you know speakin of bump keys. you would think the internet would have lots more info on locks and picking them.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 16, 2018 10:44 PM (MTjB1)

244 >209

It wouldn't, perchance, have been you, publius, would it?


Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at January 16, 2018 10:44 PM (e9G8E)

245 >> What a shame to spend so on those dresses when they're worn for such a short duration.

All dresses look their best in a heap on the floor.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 16, 2018 10:44 PM (8O3HH)

246 they are restricting when you can throw your garbage away. who does that? who even thinks to negotiate garbage hours when you move into a shithole. this is how shitholes are made.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 16, 2018 10:43 PM (MTjB1)


Just wait until they give you their approved schedule for toilet flushing. They're working on it right now.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 16, 2018 10:44 PM (8gDQu)

247 212 IMO, more federal money needs to be invested in perpetual motion research. That's where the real energy breakthroughs are likely to occur.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 10:38 PM (KfgLN)

You don't believe in this cold fusion mumbo jumbo... do ya?

Posted by: The Saint at January 16, 2018 10:44 PM (NgKpN)

248 240 3 Kakistocracy (19th century) - Government by the least qualified or worst people.

I wonder if it could be any other.
Posted by: t-bird at January 16, 2018 10:43 PM (cW490)


There are moments. Fleeting.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2018 10:45 PM (+lOpA)

249 Well, I began teaching my university class today. Early European History, woo hoo!

Europeans didn't invent nothin' but slavery and oppression.

Posted by: Gazi Kodzo at January 16, 2018 10:45 PM (h2Bdk)

250 Maybe there were "tube" stories from the ER back in the day.

Posted by: t-bird at January 16, 2018 10:45 PM (cW490)

251 Just found this at FB:

Hugh Wilson, Creator of 'WKRP in Cincinnati' and Director of 'Police Academy,' Dies at 74

https://tinyurl.com/y7b324jp

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 16, 2018 10:45 PM (eMKNe)

252 Fuck Romney

Posted by: Javems at January 16, 2018 10:45 PM (HA8RR)

253 Just wait until they give you their approved schedule for toilet flushing. They're working on it right now.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 16, 2018 10:44 PM (8gDQu)


One square and you're their.

Citizen.

Posted by: Commissar Cheryl Crowe at January 16, 2018 10:46 PM (KfgLN)

254 224 Wild morning: 'I wish I had killed more of the mother-------,' says illegal immigrant accused of killing two cops

More infuriating details.

http://bit.ly/2FLAFUG


Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 16, 2018 10:40 PM (+y/Ru)

There's Mitt's poster boy.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 16, 2018 10:46 PM (NWiLs)

255 Just wait until they give you their approved schedule for toilet flushing. They're working on it right now.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January




yeah, it is the obamacare of garbage. they also charge and extra $30 for the service.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 16, 2018 10:46 PM (MTjB1)

256 >>>How early? Like, Neanderthal early?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 10:41 PM (KfgLN)


More like "the invention of writing and civilization" early, though I'm going to jump ahead to the Hebrews and then the Greeks and Romans as fast as possible. The plan is stop shortly after the Reformation, but we'll see.

Posted by: T at January 16, 2018 10:46 PM (MmeCn)

257 One word: nuclear. But of course the green weenies won't allow it, especially since there's far less opportunity for those sweet, sweet government subsidies.
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 16, 2018 10:43 PM (NWiLs)

First thing we need to do is repeal the ban on reprocessing Nuclear fuel and waste...

Dumb dumb dumb law...

Posted by: The Saint at January 16, 2018 10:46 PM (NgKpN)

258 Same shithole apartment has decided everyone has to
use the "valet garbage service." You have to put your garbage out
beween 6pm and 8pm for pick up.





Should you set your garbage out earlier or bring your bin in after
9pm you get some fine. You are no longer allowed to simply walk your
garbage to the rubbish room and throw it down the chute because they
locked the doors.




Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 16, 2018 10:38 PM (MTjB1)


What?! How the hell does that even work? Is this a daily pickup? What if someone works afternoons and isn't home between 6 and 8pm?

Posted by: cfo mom at January 16, 2018 10:46 PM (RfzVr)

259 Cooth?

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 16, 2018 10:47 PM (mMeIQ)

260 The poverty of an aspiring immigrant's nation of origin is as irrelevant as their race.
***
Mitten's goal is to replace the American electorate with one more amenable to rule by their betters.

So the worse the shithole the better. Because shitholes are caused by elites uncontrolled by the population. Bring in enough people that don't believe in the traditional notion of freedom and you end our republic. Possibly forever.

And then Mittens and his ilk win.

Yes yes, Mittens will fight with Durbin or Cuomo at that point over whether the plebes will be indoctrinated in his religion (Mormonism) or theirs (Socialism) but it doesn't really matter much from our point of view.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 16, 2018 10:47 PM (Z8FFX)

261 Little VIA texted that P-Cola is cancelling A-School classes tomorrow.

Possibility of 1-3" of snow.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 16, 2018 10:10 PM (EyPfd)


NAS or Corry? I spent a year in "A" and "C" Schools back to back at Corry back in 19mumbletysomething.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 16, 2018 10:47 PM (yzxic)

262 >>I began teaching my university class today. Early European History, woo hoo!



The Ostrogoths have always been at war with the Visagoths.

Posted by: garrett at January 16, 2018 10:48 PM (/NKm3)

263 235 I miss Popes that don't suck.
Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2018 10:42 PM (+lOpA)

Word, my child.
Posted by: Alexander VI at January 16, 2018 10:43 PM (KfgLN)


Technically true, in that I don't think Alexander VI was the one doing the "sucking."

Posted by: T at January 16, 2018 10:48 PM (MmeCn)

264 I've read that the etymology of the word "kakistocracy" derives from the Greek kakistos - "shithole"...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at January 16, 2018 10:48 PM (e9G8E)

265 One word: nuclear. But of course the green weenies won't allow it, especially since there's far less opportunity for those sweet, sweet government subsidies.
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 16, 2018 10:43 PM (NWiLs)


The problem with nuclear is it just doesn't pencil out, cost-wise. PV is cheap enough now and nuclear expensive enough that for the same power output you could back a PV array with a mountain of lead acid batteries and come out ahead.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 16, 2018 10:48 PM (h2Bdk)

266 What?! How the hell does that even work? Is this a daily pickup? What if someone works afternoons and isn't home between 6 and 8pm?
Posted by: cfo mom at January




You seem to have puzzled out some of the finer points of why this is stupid. Was giving the management shit over the same thing. No one has ever raised the question before.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 16, 2018 10:48 PM (MTjB1)

267 Immigration and The Hart-Cellar Act, 50 Years later (see link below)

Ya know how everyone wonders how things got so off track in the last 50 years? Well, I'm not saying it is this, or isn't this, but just letting ya make up your own minds.


Short article on how it changed America.

https://tinyurl.com/ybky55bz

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 16, 2018 10:48 PM (eXZrW)

268 261 Little VIA texted that P-Cola is cancelling A-School classes tomorrow.

Possibility of 1-3" of snow.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 16, 2018 10:10 PM (EyPfd)

NAS or Corry? I spent a year in "A" and "C" Schools back to back at Corry back in 19mumbletysomething.
Posted by: Country Singer at January 16, 2018 10:47 PM (yzxic)

LOL.... I had A school in G Lakes....

1 inch of snow was a NICE day...

Posted by: Don Q. at January 16, 2018 10:49 PM (NgKpN)

269 I miss John Paul II. So much.
***
In his younger day John Paul II stood up against government thugs at the risk of his life - both national and international socialists.

Pope Commie? I think kneeling better describes his relationship with the Argentinian junta.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 16, 2018 10:49 PM (Z8FFX)

270 Well, roads got a covering of snow on it already. No notice from the school yet on closing or not.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
----------

*?*

Really? It seems to me they delay/cancel at the drop of a snowflake. The temperatures alone should have been enough to delay.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 16, 2018 10:49 PM (9tO1t)

271 I heard that Alexander VI really knew how to throw a party.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 10:49 PM (KfgLN)

272 267 Immigration and The Hart-Cellar Act, 50 Years later (see link below)

Ya know how everyone wonders how things got so off track in the last 50 years? Well, I'm not saying it is this, or isn't this, but just letting ya make up your own minds.


Short article on how it changed America.

https://tinyurl.com/ybky55bz

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 16, 2018 10:48 PM (eXZrW)

That, and then the Supreme Court decision that over rode Congress, and made Dual Citizenship Legal in the US.

Posted by: Don Q. at January 16, 2018 10:50 PM (NgKpN)

273
127 t-bird at January 15, 2018 10:35 PM (cW490) Hey, arbalest, taking any classes? And do our measles shots wear off?

Measles shots are good for ... well, the booster schedule for the MMR shot is about every 10 years, same as TDaP. I had mine in November 2013, so I have another 6 years. I got several others (Meningitis, Pneumococcal, etc), as I see too many potential vectors in my area.

Posted by: Arbalest at January 16, 2018 10:50 PM (FlRtG)

274 I once owned a tube tester...

Posted by: JEM at January 16, 2018 10:51 PM (BSzjN)

275 159 "All the cool kids are using '45's and 2A3's, for that clean triode sound."
I once had a mess of old 25s and 26s, still in the factory boxes. Wish I knew what the hell I did with 'em!

Posted by: Final Arbiter of Reality at January 16, 2018 10:51 PM (3pGfC)

276 I've read that the etymology of the word "kakistocracy" derives from the Greek kakistos - "shithole"...
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki
------------

Ah. One more thing we would never have learned if Hillary had been elected.

The more I think about that, the more it almost seems like divine intervention.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 16, 2018 10:52 PM (9tO1t)

277
Well, I began teaching my university class today. Early European History, woo hoo!

How early? Like, Neanderthal early?


8:00AM?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 16, 2018 10:52 PM (IqV8l)

278 LOL.... I had A school in G Lakes....



1 inch of snow was a NICE day...

Posted by: Don Q. at January 16, 2018 10:49 PM (NgKpN)


My Dad had horror stories of boot camp at Great Lakes in the winter of 1957. I got Orlando then Pensacola. Christmas during "C" school was spent on the beach drinking beer with bikini-clad girls.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 16, 2018 10:52 PM (yzxic)

279 I miss Popes that don't suck.
Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2018 10:42 PM (+lOpA)



I read only part of his recent speech, and had to stop.

I was Mortified. And I'm not even Catholic. But in the very beginning he seemed so...on point. Didn't last long. Sad.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 16, 2018 10:52 PM (eXZrW)

280 Excuse me. The Senate Hearing Chamber is dusty! (grabs kleenex) SNORK.

Posted by: Correta Booker (non effeminate male) at January 16, 2018 10:52 PM (RZWC0)

281 That and cold fusion. It's the tag team of superpower.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 16, 2018 10:42 PM (H8S+R)

Except that cold fusion, or somewhat less hot than "Holy Fuck, that's hot!" fusion, might actually be made to work. You can in fact buy a Farnsworth Fusor, that does fuse hydrogen atoms, and emits neutrons to prove it. It just consumes a lot more energy than it puts out.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2018 10:52 PM (sD2WN)

282 Mitt Romney really is a useless cuck.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 16, 2018 10:52 PM (WbIyz)

283 The plan is stop shortly after the Reformation, but we'll see.
Posted by: T at January 16, 2018 10:46 PM (MmeCn)



Damn. That means you'll miss the entire Thirty Years War. And there's nothing more exciting than a passionate debate over the merits of Frederick V vs Ferdinand II as inheritor of the throne of Bohemia.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 10:53 PM (KfgLN)

284 Short article on how it changed America.

https://tinyurl.com/ybky55bz

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 16, 2018 10:48 PM (eXZrW

LBJ and Ted Fucking Kennedy, what the hell could go wrong?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 10:53 PM (3/sUh)

285 Mitt just ain't that bright. How did he become rich?

Posted by: CMU VET at January 16, 2018 10:54 PM (C+wjz)

286 Liberals always like to make a big deal about all of the immigrants who passed through Ellis Island. Curiously, they never mention those who were rejected and sent home.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 16, 2018 10:54 PM (c/EDo)

287 My Dad had horror stories of boot camp at Great Lakes in the winter of 1957. I got Orlando then Pensacola. Christmas during "C" school was spent on the beach drinking beer with bikini-clad girls.
Posted by: Country Singer at January 16, 2018 10:52 PM (yzxic)

LOL.... Boot camp in San Diego, mid SUMMER... then BEE school (still SD)...

then... G. Lakes for A school starting in October... through the entire winter.

Talk about BAD timing for weather... LOL

Posted by: Don Q. at January 16, 2018 10:54 PM (NgKpN)

288 President Tyler did nothing wrong!

Posted by: Monk at January 16, 2018 10:55 PM (g4lFK)

289 I mean, Cthulhu...is that really you?

Posted by: lin-duh at January 16, 2018 10:23 PM (kufk0)

Nope. Socking confirmed.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess of some shithole duchy at January 16, 2018 10:55 PM (cu8/f)

290 279 I miss Popes that don't suck.
Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2018 10:42 PM (+lOpA)



I read only part of his recent speech, and had to stop.

I was Mortified. And I'm not even Catholic. But in the very beginning he seemed so...on point. Didn't last long. Sad.
Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 16, 2018 10:52 PM (eXZrW)


My mother has been a devout Catholic her entire life (almost 80 years now). I think this idiot has upset her more than anything in decades. She believes he's God's representative on earth, but on the other hand he's such a boob... I understand why people are clinging to the "Benedict isn't dead yet so Francis isn't really the pope" line of reasoning.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 16, 2018 10:55 PM (h2Bdk)

291 You seem to have puzzled out some of the finer
points of why this is stupid. Was giving the management shit over the
same thing. No one has ever raised the question before.





Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 16, 2018 10:48 PM (MTjB1)

Fill a few trash bags with cement blocks, or rocks, and leave outside some of the other apartments.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2018 10:57 PM (sD2WN)

292 Damn. That means you'll miss the entire Thirty Years War. And there's nothing more exciting than a passionate debate over the merits of Frederick V vs Ferdinand II as inheritor of the throne of Bohemia.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 10:53 PM (KfgLN)


Maybe for us Westerners. Based on personal experience, I'm sure the good people of Prague would rather just re-anoint zombie Charles IV and call it a day.

Posted by: T at January 16, 2018 10:57 PM (MmeCn)

293 My family still has an old vacuum tube tester. It's in a wooden hinged box a little larger than an old manual typewriter, which we also have.

Posted by: Bill R. at January 16, 2018 10:57 PM (IuYIh)

294
Unless this was covered already, go to WZ and see what Google did to the Junior Senator from Georgia.

Wikipedia is featured also.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 16, 2018 10:57 PM (S/hVx)

295 The "cooth sock" isn't the best idea.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 16, 2018 10:57 PM (Ckg4U)

296 -
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Gov. Chris Christie (R-NJ) is a RINO and is usually not spoken of or highly thought of here at The ONT. Kudos Gov. you have done the right thing.

----------------------------

We live in a time when it is necessary to give kudos to an elected official for doing the only possible decent thing.


Posted by: irright at January 16, 2018 10:58 PM (RVcmP)

297 Ok....whoever socked Cooth is just wrong!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 16, 2018 10:58 PM (mMeIQ)

298 Grump928(C): "Mitt Romney really is a useless cuck."

Worse than that, he's a subversive cuck. He's not benign and he's made me regret I ever supported him to the limited extent I did. However, he represents the GOPe well, so he has that going for him.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 16, 2018 10:58 PM (H8S+R)

299 Maybe for us Westerners. Based on personal experience, I'm sure the good people of Prague would rather just re-anoint zombie Charles IV and call it a day.
Posted by: T at January 16, 2018 10:57 PM (MmeCn



A great pop quiz idea:

Which was the best defenestration of Prague, and why? Show your work.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 10:59 PM (KfgLN)

300 Measles shots are good for ... well, the booster schedule for the MMR shot is about every 10 years, same as TDaP. I had mine in November 2013, so I have another 6 years. I got several others (Meningitis, Pneumococcal, etc), as I see too many potential vectors in my area.
Posted by: Arbalest at January 16, 2018 10:50 PM (FlRtG)


Geez. I didn't know we were supposed to get a booster for MMR every 10 years. I've never gotten one.

If it weren't for all the immigrants bringing in illnesses, and the anti-vaxers, I wouldn't be concerned. Maybe that's why my docs have never mentioned it...they didn't see a need for it either.

But we had a measles outbreak from some Mexicans a few years back. So now I'm worried.

Does anyone else get these boosters?

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 16, 2018 10:59 PM (eXZrW)

301 Damn. That means you'll miss the entire Thirty Years War. And there's nothing more exciting than a passionate debate over the merits of Frederick V vs Ferdinand II as inheritor of the throne of Bohemia.

-
Don't forget Gustaphus Adolphus!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 16, 2018 11:00 PM (+y/Ru)

302 Don't forget Gustaphus Adolphus!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 16, 2018 11:00 PM (+y/Ru)


Yep. That was back when Swedes would actually put up a fight.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 11:01 PM (KfgLN)

303 OMG, a real tube tester! I haven't seen one since the early 70s.

I still have a (non-operable) Dynaco FM-1 tuner that needs re-tubing. If I could get them it would work just fine.

Posted by: sestamibi at January 16, 2018 11:01 PM (WusEB)

304 Romney and McCain.

Fuck.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2018 11:02 PM (+lOpA)

305 New for 2018 ... Crimean Congo Hemorrhagic Fever (CCHR)
also known as 'Black Death II'

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at January 16, 2018 11:02 PM (e8kgV)

306 As long as we are talking about President Tyler's vision of the future, you may wish to know that the solar system revolves around the center of the Milky Way galaxy with a period of approximately 250 million years. The last time our solar system was roughly in its current position in our galaxy, the Permian mass extinction event took place. At that time, roughly 96% of all the species of animal and plant life on earth ceased to exist.

(And, BTW, that Neil Degrasse Tyson guy? - he's got NOTHING on me.)

Posted by: CyberCipher at January 16, 2018 11:02 PM (p6WoB)

307 I have never seen a tube tester before. Nor heard of them.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 16, 2018 11:03 PM (eXZrW)

308 306 (And, BTW, that Neil Degrasse Tyson guy? - he's got NOTHING on me.)
Posted by: CyberCipher at January 16, 2018 11:02 PM (p6WoB)


Way to jump the low bar.

Posted by: Splunge at January 16, 2018 11:03 PM (Vb4BV)

309 4 You know, I think the morons here are a little short on culture. Perhaps C.S. Lewis pondering the glories and limits of space travel could help with fix that.

https://tinyurl.com/SFCradlesong
Posted by: Zaklog the Grea



{hmph}
This is Culture Sir! https://youtu.be/B6nI1v7mwwA

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 16, 2018 11:04 PM (Lmyf+)

310 Black Death II was already the one from the Crimea, 1340s.

Black Death I was Justinian's Plague and, trust me, you didn't want any of that either.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 16, 2018 11:04 PM (6FqZa)

311 308 Way to jump the low bar.

You were supposed to laugh.

Posted by: CyberCipher at January 16, 2018 11:04 PM (p6WoB)

312 304 Romney and McCain.

Fuck.
Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2018 11:02 PM (+lOpA)

No shit!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 11:04 PM (3/sUh)

313 303 I still have a (non-operable) Dynaco FM-1 tuner that needs re-tubing. If I could get them it would work just fine.
Posted by: sestamibi at January 16, 2018 11:01 PM (WusEB)


Dynaco rings a faint bell. They sold kits, right?

You might be disappointed by FM these days, though.

Posted by: Splunge at January 16, 2018 11:04 PM (Vb4BV)

314 I have never seen a tube tester before. Nor heard of them.


My lawn. Get off. Don't even look at it.

Posted by: cfo mom at January 16, 2018 11:05 PM (RfzVr)

315 Explain to me why there is a government shutdown over immigration nonsense when Republicans control both the House and the Senate?

Posted by: Apache at January 16, 2018 11:05 PM (uc45P)

316 311 308 Way to jump the low bar.

You were supposed to laugh.
Posted by: CyberCipher at January 16, 2018 11:04 PM (p6WoB)


Oh, I did.

Posted by: Splunge at January 16, 2018 11:05 PM (Vb4BV)

317 Good evening.

Posted by: Robert at January 16, 2018 11:05 PM (ayUOl)

318 301 Damn. That means you'll miss the entire Thirty Years War. And there's nothing more exciting than a passionate debate over the merits of Frederick V vs Ferdinand II as inheritor of the throne of Bohemia.

-
Don't forget Gustaphus Adolphus!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 16, 2018 11:00 PM (+y/Ru)


Oh, whatever. Wallenstein or bust, baby!

Posted by: T, now chairman of the Wallenstein 1632 campaign. A beer stein in every hand and a halberd through e at January 16, 2018 11:05 PM (MmeCn)

319 317 Good evening.
Posted by: Robert at January 16, 2018 11:05 PM (ayUOl)



Password?

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2018 11:07 PM (+lOpA)

320 Skimmed the content.

Thanks Miss Hum. Needs more tits, though.

Posted by: Robert at January 16, 2018 11:07 PM (ayUOl)

321 315 Explain to me why there is a government shutdown over immigration nonsense when Republicans control both the House and the Senate?
Posted by: Apache at January 16, 2018 11:05 PM (uc45P)

Republicans. Wet paper bag. Exit. Some assembly required.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 11:07 PM (3/sUh)

322 A'ville Robt. - The road here is covered with snow, just ticked under 23 deg., and a salt spreader just drove by.

I see the bus system is shut down until 11:00 a.m., but the schools are not delayed? WTF?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 16, 2018 11:07 PM (cp1if)

323 I would kill for one of them old tube testers.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 16, 2018 11:07 PM (aMlLZ)

324 So how did it ever become conventional wisdom that elizabeth moss is cute?

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 16, 2018 11:07 PM (MTjB1)

325 Password?
Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2018 11:07 PM (+lOpA)

LittleWhiteGirlsBigBlackDicks69?

No, wait, that's for my Facebook.

Posted by: Robert at January 16, 2018 11:08 PM (ayUOl)

326
I still have a (non-operable) Dynaco FM-1 tuner that needs re-tubing. If I could get them it would work just fine.
Posted by: sestamibi


https://vacuumtubesinc.com/

http://www.vacuumtubes.com/

http://www.vacuumtubes.net/

https://www.tubeworld.com/index_high.htm

http://users.rcn.com/brentjes/bjtubes.htm

http://www.thetubestore.com/

http://www.oldradioparts.com/index.html

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 16, 2018 11:08 PM (IqV8l)

327 A great pop quiz idea:

Which was the best defenestration of Prague, and why? Show your work.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 10:59 PM (KfgLN)


Ha! Any defenestration is the best defenestration.

I am thinking of giving a bonus multiple-choice question on one exam, though, after I tell them about Saint Nicholas punching that scumbag Arius. Saint Nicholas is famous for: a) driving a sleigh, b) delivering presents, c) punching heretics, d) all of the above.

Posted by: T, now chairman of the Wallenstein 1632 campaign. A beer stein in every hand and a halberd through e at January 16, 2018 11:08 PM (MmeCn)

328 I still have a (non-operable) Dynaco FM-1 tuner that needs re-tubing. If I could get them it would work just fine.



Posted by: sestamibi at January 16, 2018 11:01 PM (WusEB)

There should be no tubes in that thing that are not readily available and cheap. There are many on-line tube dealers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2018 11:08 PM (sD2WN)

329 323 I would kill for one of them old tube testers.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 16, 2018 11:07 PM (aMlLZ)


I once looked on eBay, to see if I could acquire one, and the price was about in that range.

Posted by: Splunge at January 16, 2018 11:08 PM (Vb4BV)

330 Explain to me why there is a government shutdown over immigration nonsense when Republicans control both the House and the Senate?
Posted by: Apache at January 16, 2018 11:05 PM (uc45P)

========

The Dems are going to shut it down over this issue. No media outlet will ever tell you that, though.

Posted by: Speed Racer at January 16, 2018 11:08 PM (j/7lG)

331 Cate Moss is pretty cute. That all my Moss facts.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2018 11:09 PM (+lOpA)

332 I've read that vacuum tube electronics are immune to EMP effects...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at January 16, 2018 11:09 PM (e9G8E)

333 Password?

We were supposed to pass words? No wonder everyone looked at me that way.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at January 16, 2018 11:09 PM (IcT7t)

334 324 So how did it ever become conventional wisdom that elizabeth moss is cute?
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 16, 2018 11:07 PM (MTjB1)


Is it? Maybe it's all that "beautiful at any size" stuff. She's cuter than a similar woman at 300 pounds.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 16, 2018 11:10 PM (h2Bdk)

335 -
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I have never seen a tube tester before. Nor heard of them.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 16, 2018 11:03 PM

----------------

The Paolo, he does not advertise this. But yes, he tests the tubes.

Posted by: The Paolo at January 16, 2018 11:10 PM (RVcmP)

336 Arius was a patsy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 11:10 PM (KfgLN)

337 Explain to me why there is a government shutdown over immigration nonsense when Republicans control both the House and the Senate?
Posted by: Apache at January 16, 2018 11:05 PM (uc45P)

========

The Dems are going to shut it down over this issue. No media outlet will ever tell you that, though.

-
Donk battlecry: Shithole or Bust!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 16, 2018 11:10 PM (+y/Ru)

338 I would kill for one of them old tube testers.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison
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No need. Ebay.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 16, 2018 11:10 PM (cp1if)

339 "LOL.... I had A school in G Lakes....



1 inch of snow was a NICE day...

Posted by: Don Q."

Basic, BEE (finished in 2 weeks) and 'A' school all in Great Lakes. In the early to mid-summer. A couple of weeks off then to Norfolk and a couple of weeks later on the way to Beruit with a brief stop in Grenada to kick some communist butts.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 16, 2018 11:10 PM (w+Jhj)

340 I heard that Alexander VI really knew how to throw a party.

Milo would have preferred Leo X's shindigs. Fabuloso.

Honestly I'd rather we had a Borgia in there now. For all their faults they didn't cornhole boys and they did care about the future of the Church. Plus, they fought the Frogs so they can't be all that bad.

(As for that Italian War, the Frogs declared victory and scampered back home, which winning strategy they would later recycle in Algeria.)

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 16, 2018 11:10 PM (6FqZa)

341 330 The Dems are going to shut it down over this issue. No media outlet will ever tell you that, though.
Posted by: Speed Racer at January 16, 2018 11:08 PM (j/7lG)


Yeah. Think "Wisconsin Democrats reacting to restrictions on unions." It'll be about like that, and for just the same reason. Interfere with their vote schemes, or their money flow, and they wake right up.

Posted by: Splunge at January 16, 2018 11:10 PM (Vb4BV)

342 There should be no tubes in that thing that are not readily available and cheap. There are many on-line tube dealers.


Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2018 11:08 PM (sD2WN)

My first thought was "tailgating/boneyard area of a hamfest". Usually at least one guy there with a tube tester going as well.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 16, 2018 11:10 PM (yzxic)

343 shut the government down. who would miss it?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 16, 2018 11:10 PM (KP5rU)

344 310 Black Death II was already the one from the Crimea, 1340s.

Black Death I was Justinian's Plague and, trust me, you didn't want any of that either.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 16, 2018 11:04 PM (6FqZa)


Shouldn't it go without saying that if it has "Black Death" in the title, you wouldn't want any of it?

Posted by: T at January 16, 2018 11:11 PM (MmeCn)

345 6V6's and 12AX7's all the way baby!


Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 16, 2018 10:13 PM (w+Jhj)

All the cool kids are using '45's and 2A3's, for that clean triode sound.


Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2018 10:27 PM (sD2WN)


One of my baddest ass amps has a pair each of 6L6 and Kt88 power tubes and 5 12ax7's. Sand paint? Noooo, I peal it. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 16, 2018 11:12 PM (aMlLZ)

346 343 shut the government down. who would miss it?
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 16, 2018 11:10 PM (KP5rU)


The last "shutdown" was a farce. They kept 85% of the government funded.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 16, 2018 11:12 PM (h2Bdk)

347 342 My first thought was "tailgating/boneyard area of a hamfest".
Posted by: Country Singer at January 16, 2018 11:10 PM (yzxic)


The second, more thoughtful, reading of that sentence was very different from the first reading.

Posted by: Splunge at January 16, 2018 11:12 PM (Vb4BV)

348 wasn't the guy on the Adams Family Uncle Fenestration?

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 16, 2018 11:12 PM (MTjB1)

349 I would kill for one of them old tube testers.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 16, 2018 11:07 PM (aMlLZ)

The drugstore kind, or the service shop kind? I see the former at swap meets all the time, and a friend of mine has one. I have a couple of the service shop kind. I could part with one.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2018 11:12 PM (sD2WN)

350 Chelsea Manning wants to FIGHT!

Heshe wants to FIX this (!!!!!!!)

Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at January 16, 2018 11:12 PM (56GKt)

351 shut the government down. who would miss it?
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 16, 2018 11:10 PM (KP5rU)

*Sniff*

Posted by: Welfare Babies and Bernie Bros. at January 16, 2018 11:13 PM (ayUOl)

352 346 The last "shutdown" was a farce. They kept 85% of the government funded.
Posted by: Ace's liver at January 16, 2018 11:12 PM (h2Bdk)


Plus the extra cost of barriers to keep people from looking at Mt Rushmore and other things they paid for.

Posted by: Splunge at January 16, 2018 11:13 PM (Vb4BV)

353 Arius had some controversial ideas but he didn't deserve to get clocked by Santa Claus.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 11:13 PM (KfgLN)

354 "The poverty of an aspiring immigrant's nation of origin is as irrelevant as their race. The sentiment attributed to POTUS..."


Mitt you ignorant slut. It's their culture that is relevant. The nation gives clues as to that. Race? Who but Democrats is ever talking about race?

Would you, Mitt, care to define what you mean by race? I'd bet not since the whole idea is a social construct and thus the definition changes as the left needs it to change,

And then we come to: "Attributed to POTUS." Attributed by just who? Durbin? That known liar. Do you always believe liars? Or is it only when their lie is useful for your own twisted need for power?

Your father must be looking down, ashamed of what you have become.

Posted by: geoffb at January 16, 2018 11:13 PM (zOpu5)

355 Shouldn't it go without saying that if it has "Black Death" in the title, you wouldn't want any of it?

Now, if only someone could inform our elected representatives . . .

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 16, 2018 11:13 PM (6FqZa)

356 The second, more thoughtful, reading of that sentence was very different from the first reading.

Posted by: Splunge at January 16, 2018 11:12 PM (Vb4BV)


Ha! Yeah, I could have phrased that differently. But if you're into old electronics, it's a good place to find things. Sometimes even reasonably priced.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 16, 2018 11:13 PM (yzxic)

357 Gotta get ole Mitt in the Senate, never can have too many Republican elected officials who routinely spit in their voters faces on nonelection years.

Posted by: Drew in MO at January 16, 2018 11:13 PM (cGlgB)

358 Is it? Maybe it's all that "beautiful at any size" stuff. She's cuter than a similar woman at 300 pounds.
Posted by: Ace's liver at January



well that is the impression I get.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 16, 2018 11:14 PM (MTjB1)

359 Gotta get ole Mitt in the Senate, never can have too many Republican elected officials who routinely spit in their voters faces on nonelection years.
Posted by: Drew in MO at January 16, 2018 11:13 PM (cGlgB)



Yep. McCain will be gone soon, and then what?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 11:14 PM (KfgLN)

360 So how does this govt "shutdown" work in regards to people ending up being paid without showing up? When they finally pass a CR do they put backpay language in that? Why/how the heck do they get paid for days they didn't work? If they're gonna get paid eventually although delayed, they need to do the work.

Posted by: cfo mom at January 16, 2018 11:14 PM (RfzVr)

361 353 Arius had some controversial ideas but he didn't deserve to get clocked by Santa Claus.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 11:13 PM (KfgLN)

Maybe he saw Mommy kissing Santa Claus?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 11:15 PM (3/sUh)

362 I heard that Alexander VI really knew how to throw a party.

Milo would have preferred Leo X's shindigs. Fabuloso.

Honestly I'd rather we had a Borgia in there now. For all their faults they didn't cornhole boys and they did care about the future of the Church. Plus, they fought the Frogs so they can't be all that bad.

(As for that Italian War, the Frogs declared victory and scampered back home, which winning strategy they would later recycle in Algeria.)

-
My high school history teacher "Chicken Legs" Ingram said he would have been a very good pope if only he were a little bit religious.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 16, 2018 11:15 PM (+y/Ru)

363 "A'ville Robt. - The road here is covered with snow, just ticked under 23 deg., and a salt spreader just drove by.



I see the bus system is shut down until 11:00 a.m., but the schools are not delayed? WTF?

Posted by: Mike Hammer"

OK, the local super-lib TV station has updated their web page showing school is closed tomorrow.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 16, 2018 11:15 PM (w+Jhj)

364 350 Chelsea Manning wants to FIGHT!

Heshe wants to FIX this (!!!!!!!)
Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost



BRADLEY Manning is an emotionally unstable, mentally ill, traitor. But by all means, make HIM the face of the Democrat Party. What could go wrong?

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 16, 2018 11:16 PM (Lmyf+)

365 Plus the extra cost of barriers to keep people from looking at Mt Rushmore and other things they paid for.
Posted by: Splunge
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There is a concessionaire who runs an eatery up on the Blueridge parkway. They shut him down, and put barriers across the parking lot entrance.

They did the same thing at *unmanned* parking lots at the Outer Banks.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 16, 2018 11:16 PM (nBBdT)

366 Maybe he saw Mommy kissing Santa Claus?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 11:15 PM (3/sUh)

In Present Year, Mommy and Santa 69 on the first date.

Posted by: Robert at January 16, 2018 11:16 PM (ayUOl)

367 BTW, where is Ted Cruz?

Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at January 16, 2018 11:16 PM (56GKt)

368 283
Damn. That means you'll miss the entire Thirty Years War. And there's nothing more exciting than a passionate debate over the merits of Frederick V vs Ferdinand II as inheritor of the throne of Bohemia.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 10:53 PM (KfgLN)


We need a thread where we refight the Thirty Years War. It'll be a nice change of pace when we get tired of refighting the Civil War.

Posted by: rickl at January 16, 2018 11:16 PM (sdi6R)

369 Well, where they are from is one thing but we should have a strict, inviolable prohibition on ugly immigrants. Make it easier for everyone here to hook up with hotties.

We do not have to send the ugly ones back just to Canada or Mexico.

Lots of countries have schools and companies that require you to submit photos when applying.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 16, 2018 11:16 PM (MTjB1)

370 Apache: "Explain to me why there is a government shutdown over..."

The gods smiling upon us?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 16, 2018 11:17 PM (H8S+R)

371
I would kill for one of them old tube testers.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 16, 2018 11:07 PM (aMlLZ)


https://tucson.craig slist.org/ele/d/conar-220-tube-tester/6457118823.html

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2018 11:17 PM (sD2WN)

372 BTW, where is Ted Cruz?

Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at January 16, 2018 11:16 PM (56GKt)


He's busy spamming my inbox for donations.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 16, 2018 11:17 PM (yzxic)

373 We need a thread where we refight the Thirty Years War. It'll be a nice change of pace when we get tired of refighting the Civil War.
Posted by: rickl at January 16, 2018 11:16 PM (sdi6R)



Great. I'll be the French.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 11:17 PM (KfgLN)

374 353 Arius had some controversial ideas but he didn't deserve to get clocked by Santa Claus.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 11:13 PM (KfgLN)


I look at Arius the same way I look at modern-day activists. If you don't shut up, eventually good people of sense are going to get tired of you and then punch you in the face.

Posted by: T at January 16, 2018 11:18 PM (MmeCn)

375 357 Gotta get ole Mitt in the Senate, never can have too many Republican elected officials who routinely spit in their voters faces on nonelection years.
Posted by: Drew in MO at January 16, 2018 11:13 PM (cGlgB)

Nooooo!

Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at January 16, 2018 11:18 PM (56GKt)

376 I believe Ted Cruz is preparing for a seat to open on the US Supreme Court...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at January 16, 2018 11:18 PM (e9G8E)

377 New daca deal as shithole like as old daca bill. Gives citizenship to the illegals, keeps chain migration, no wall funding and makes tweaks to visa lotyery.

And this is what rinos call a compromise.

To hell with all of them.

Posted by: #neverskankles at January 16, 2018 11:18 PM (jioix)

378 Maybe he saw Mommy kissing Santa Claus?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January




Has been updated to I saw mommy tossing santa claus' salad."

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 16, 2018 11:18 PM (MTjB1)

379 BTW, where is Ted Cruz?
Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at January 16, 2018 11:16 PM (56GKt)

I asked Bing this question, couldn't find anything. Sorry, man, I tried my best.

Posted by: Robert at January 16, 2018 11:18 PM (ayUOl)

380 Great. I'll be the French.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 11:17 PM (KfgLN)


Never go full French.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2018 11:18 PM (+lOpA)

381 366 Maybe he saw Mommy kissing Santa Claus?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 11:15 PM (3/sUh)

In Present Year, Mommy and Santa 69 on the first date.
Posted by: Robert at January 16, 2018 11:16 PM (ayUOl)

Only if Mommy is a whore and Santa is a bad muzzie comic.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 11:18 PM (3/sUh)

382
"Get out."


President Donald J. Trump

Posted by: Day that ends in Y at January 16, 2018 11:19 PM (5ng19)

383 LBJ and Ted Fucking Kennedy, what the hell could go wrong?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 10:53 PM (3/sUh)



lol
Ya know, I don't remember beeing taught in school about it, and I had good teachers. It is something I came across after college. Just tripped across it really.

I wonder how many people, including Congress, have any clue about it. I don't think many people do. I mean, ya got Comey using the poem as our immigration policy, so I have grave doubts about most of our goverment elites at this point. Not to mention our citizens.

Personally, JMO, I do link the 50 year decline and the immigration change. Not cause and effect necessarily, but some kind of correlation.

Someone should make DJT aware of it. People are acting like he is talking about reversing 200 years of sacred US policy. He's actually more in line with our Founders, the people, and the govt. for 150 years...as well as the people who worried the immigration changes would cause our Country problems and change who we were. Which it did.

So this whole "not who we are" thing we always hear? We were that for most of our history, and it worked well. We deviate and in 50 years we destroy ourselves.









Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 16, 2018 11:19 PM (eXZrW)

384 He's busy spamming my inbox for donations.
Posted by: Country Singer at January 16, 2018 11:17 PM (yzxic)

Is this a euphamism?

Posted by: Robert at January 16, 2018 11:19 PM (ayUOl)

385 Electing Mitt Romney is like electing another Chuck Schumer.

Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at January 16, 2018 11:19 PM (56GKt)

386 We need a thread where we refight the Thirty Years War.

Sounds like we're still arguing the verdict of Nicaea...

Arius' attempt to subordinate the Son to the Father led to the Byzantine state of Constantius and Valens. It subjugated the Church to the whims of the emperors.

Not a fan.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 16, 2018 11:20 PM (6FqZa)

387 Makes the whole immigration thing easier if first cut is ugly or not. Pull out the big red "FUGLY" stamp and stamp away.



Reopen Ellis Island with two lines enter and fugly.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 16, 2018 11:20 PM (MTjB1)

388 If we're re-fighting the Thirty Years' War now, I call the Habsburgs. Royal inbreeding can't be all bad.

Posted by: T at January 16, 2018 11:20 PM (MmeCn)

389 Arius had some controversial ideas but he didn't deserve to get clocked by Santa Claus.

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Didn't she kill Travis Alexander?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 16, 2018 11:20 PM (+y/Ru)

390
There is a concessionaire who runs an eatery up on the Blueridge parkway. They shut him down, and put barriers across the parking lot entrance.

They did the same thing at *unmanned* parking lots at the Outer Banks.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc


How about some "direct action" by the people taking those barriers down?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 16, 2018 11:20 PM (IqV8l)

391 Is this a euphamism?

Posted by: Robert at January 16, 2018 11:19 PM (ayUOl)

No.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 16, 2018 11:20 PM (yzxic)

392 Arius' attempt to subordinate the Son to the Father led to the Byzantine state of Constantius and Valens. It subjugated the Church to the whims of the emperors.

Not a fan.


Wait. I don't get how A leads to B.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 11:20 PM (KfgLN)

393 Why/how the heck do they get paid for days they didn't work? If they're gonna get paid eventually although delayed, they need to do the work.
Posted by: cfo mom

Ha. That's the gig for feds, and contract feds. Their only problem with shutdowns is guessing how long a vacation to take.

Posted by: pogomip at January 16, 2018 11:21 PM (o1WBo)

394 And this is what rinos call a compromise.

To hell with all of them.



Traitors. Liars, Cowards, Traitors.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 16, 2018 11:21 PM (eXZrW)

395 How about some "direct action" by the people taking those barriers down?



Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 16, 2018 11:20 PM (IqV8l)


We got this.

Posted by: WWII Vets at Memorials at January 16, 2018 11:21 PM (yzxic)

396 He's busy spamming my inbox for donations.
Posted by: Country Singer at January 16, 2018 11:17 PM (yzxic)

Is this a euphamism?
Posted by: Robert at January




well, if it is spamming his inbox is better than spamming his outbox.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 16, 2018 11:21 PM (MTjB1)

397 Mittens could have retired anywhere in the country. He chose SoCal. But yiu know....severely conservative.

Posted by: #neverskankles at January 16, 2018 11:22 PM (jioix)

398 BTW, where is Ted Cruz?



ee's restin!

Posted by: Day that ends in Y at January 16, 2018 11:22 PM (5ng19)

399 OK, the local super-lib TV station has updated their web page showing school is closed tomorrow.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
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Don't forget to change the alarm clock.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 16, 2018 11:22 PM (c/EDo)

400 Ha. That's the gig for feds, and contract feds. Their only problem with shutdowns is guessing how long a vacation to take.

Posted by: pogomip at January 16, 2018 11:21 PM (o1WBo)


Actually, the contractors still have to show up. At least, they do in DoD.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 16, 2018 11:22 PM (yzxic)

401 Ask not what your country can do for you . . .

- JFK

Get out!

-PDT

Advantage Trump. Pithier.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 16, 2018 11:23 PM (+y/Ru)

402 The WH doc was pretty impressive. Smooth, articulate, unflappable.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 16, 2018 11:23 PM (c/EDo)

403 well, regarding direct action, have you ever seen the direct action penetrator? upgraded Blackhawk. como se dice tres cool in aleman?

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 16, 2018 11:23 PM (MTjB1)

404 If we're re-fighting the Thirty Years' War now, I call the Habsburgs

I call Grantville.

Posted by: Chuck C at January 16, 2018 11:23 PM (0V2ki)

405 353 Arius had some controversial ideas but he didn't deserve to get clocked by Santa Claus.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 11:13 PM (KfgLN)

Yeah, we probably would have been satisfied with Rudolph kicking him in the nuts a couple times.

Actually, Arius was a serious heretic, at a time when being a Christian wasn't exactly understood so well by the masses. He tried to lead the faithful astray (read, march lockstep into Hell), so if Santa had to bitchslap him, he just did.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 16, 2018 11:24 PM (NXsWM)

406 Cicero : Mimetic theory. I'm borrowing from Rene Girard here.

Christianity holds "on earth as it is in heaven". So if, in heaven, the Son and the Father are equal, and the Spirit flows from both, on earth we get an equal Church and State.

That delicate balance is upset in Eunomianism / Arianism, such that the Son serves the Father. That means the state can set itself up as the Father and tell the Son - that's Jesus, and His Church - what to do.

So, you get tyranny and thought-police.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 16, 2018 11:24 PM (6FqZa)

407 What ever happened to the rapper who refused to kiss the tranny?

Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at January 16, 2018 11:24 PM (56GKt)

408
Arius got run over by a reindeer...

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 16, 2018 11:25 PM (IqV8l)

409 If there is another gummint shutdown, I don't think we will see all the clown moves like there were in the last one. I'm sure all those asshole stunts were done on direct orders from Barky's administration.


I expect if some of the union drones tried to pull that shit in any upcoming shutdown, Trump would have them arrested, or at least fired, and told to vacate, pronto.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2018 11:25 PM (sD2WN)

410 I'm out for the night. Y'all take care.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 16, 2018 11:25 PM (yzxic)

411 How about some "direct action" by the people taking those barriers down?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
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The locals at the Outer Banks spray painted some rude comments about the NPS here and there.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 16, 2018 11:25 PM (5OO3x)

412 Doctor's office sent me a bill after my most recent physical. Which is odd because my health insurance pays for a physical.

I called the health insurance company. They told me they were billed for an office visit and a physical.

I call the DR office and they said "you talked with the doctor about something else so it was an office visit too". I pointed out he asked me about it. They said they would try to bill it out again but now I've gone back and forth with them on it and they seem to think this scam is acceptable.

Thoughts?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 16, 2018 11:25 PM (Z8FFX)

413 392 Arius' attempt to subordinate the Son to the Father led to the Byzantine state of Constantius and Valens. It subjugated the Church to the whims of the emperors.

Not a fan.

Wait. I don't get how A leads to B.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2018 11:20 PM (KfgLN)


I don't know if I'd agree with that. Constantius and Valens were both Arians, but then Theodosius and his successors took over and they kind of slammed the lid down on any anti-Nicaean creeds. I think State control of the Church had more to do with Byzantium remaining a powerful and united empire well into the Middle Ages and having the political capital to control the patriarchs, whereas political fragmentation in the Roman West gave the popes the opportunity to stay independent of any one ruler (at least until about 1300).

Posted by: T at January 16, 2018 11:26 PM (MmeCn)

414 >>>That's the gig for feds, and contract feds. Their only problem with shutdowns is guessing how long a vacation to take.


So are you saying that it is union contracts? They have to not show if the government tells them to stay home, but that if the "dispute" is settled and they are returned to their job (not permanently furloughed) they get back pay?

Just trying to figure this out.

Posted by: cfo mom at January 16, 2018 11:26 PM (RfzVr)

415 W1jat happened to Newt and Giuliani? I assumed by now they would be hired by Trump for something. But nada. The two guys who stood by Trump through thick and thin and then tossed aside.

I find that so weird.

Posted by: #neverskankles at January 16, 2018 11:26 PM (jioix)

416 So, you get tyranny and thought-police.



I first read that as tranny, and thought you forgot the plural was trannies.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 16, 2018 11:26 PM (eXZrW)

417 Doctor's office sent me a bill after my most recent physical. Which is odd because my health insurance pays for a physical.

I called the health insurance company. They told me they were billed for an office visit and a physical.

I call the DR office and they said "you talked with the doctor about something else so it was an office visit too". I pointed out he asked me about it. They said they would try to bill it out again but now I've gone back and forth with them on it and they seem to think this scam is acceptable.

Thoughts?
Posted by: 18-1 at January




send him a bill for the questions he asked you.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 16, 2018 11:27 PM (MTjB1)

418 I'm sure all those asshole stunts were done on direct orders from Barky's administration.
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Didn't affect any of his voter demographic.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 16, 2018 11:27 PM (5OO3x)

419 Speaking of outboxes I just let one rip and...WOW!

Posted by: Robert, fanning the air at January 16, 2018 11:27 PM (ayUOl)

420 Have you read any Tony Hillerman books? Jim Chee the Navajo cop put of Window Rock, AZ, chasing down bad guys on the rez, his girlfriend a Navajo but a Georgetown-educated lawyer?

Chee lives in a trailer at the end of a six-mile dirt driveway?

Well a new author has a debut novel out called Nail's Crossing and the setting is res country but up in hardscrabble OK, the Chicasaw and Choctaw nations out past Ada, the Indian cop is Bill Maytubby, and his girlfriend's a nutritionist with a Ph.D.

This author just took Hillerman's setting and cast, put new people in the same roles, and put the whole shebang about 750 miles east-northeast.

Except that this author can really write. Superb character development with witty dialog. Mix Hillerman with Cormac McCarthy and Elmore Leonard, and let's be sure Clint Eastwood gets the film rights.

Posted by: Git back 2 yur shitholes at January 16, 2018 11:28 PM (kN52W)

421 416 So, you get tyranny and thought-police.



I first read that as tranny, and thought you forgot the plural was trannies.
Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 16, 2018 11:26 PM (eXZrW)

That is the logical progression--without God, you get trannies. Lots of 'em, and they want to be in charge.

We need Santa to get to bitchslapping all over again, don't we?

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 16, 2018 11:28 PM (NXsWM)

422 "Don't forget to change the alarm clock.

Posted by: Mike Hammer"

Already taken care of!

And, I'm off. Have fun ya'll.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 16, 2018 11:28 PM (w+Jhj)

423 415 W1jat happened to Newt and Giuliani?

Good question. Newt is still doing the Hannity circuit.

Giulliani is old.

Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at January 16, 2018 11:29 PM (56GKt)

424 419 Speaking of outboxes I just let one rip and...WOW!
Posted by: Robert, fanning the air at January 16, 2018 11:27 PM (ayUOl)

You're only hurting yourself.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2018 11:29 PM (+lOpA)

425 I call the DR office and they said "you talked with
the doctor about something else so it was an office visit too". I
pointed out he asked me about it. They said they would try to bill it
out again but now I've gone back and forth with them on it and they seem
to think this scam is acceptable.



Thoughts?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 16, 2018 11:25 PM (Z8FFX)

Seems to me that a conversation about one's general state of health, especially one initiated by the doctor, is part of a physical.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2018 11:29 PM (sD2WN)

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2018 11:29 PM (+lOpA)

427 416 So, you get tyranny and thought-police.



I first read that as tranny, and thought you forgot the plural was trannies.
Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 16, 2018 11:26 PM (eXZrW)


Still works, though.

Posted by: T at January 16, 2018 11:29 PM (MmeCn)

428 How about some "direct action" by the people taking those barriers down?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.



Chainsaws. Small pieces. Neatly stacked, 'cause Horde.

Optional: Bonfires, where safe to do so.




And yes, this kind of Civil Disobedience is EXACTLY what's necessary in such instances.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 16, 2018 11:29 PM (QzJWU)

429 @315 Explain to me why there is a government shutdown over immigration nonsense when Republicans control both the House and the Senate?
----------------

Some of the Senate stuff requires 60 votes to pass.

Posted by: junior at January 16, 2018 11:29 PM (KGApI)

430 I think State control of the Church had more to do with Byzantium remaining a powerful and united empire well into the Middle Ages and having the political capital to control the patriarchs,

I'd argue they needed an ideology to subordinate the church to the state though.

Which gets us to the other way to upset the balance: Monophysitism. As Theodosius II proclaimed in the two councils of Ephesus before he fell off his horse and went splat.

This taught - and, in places, still teaches - that the Son and the Father are the same substance, and (therefore) the same will (=monotheletism). In this case the church and the state are the same thing.

Either way, you end up with Islam.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 16, 2018 11:30 PM (6FqZa)

431
That is the logical progression--without God, you get trannies. Lots of 'em, and they want to be in charge.

New TV show "Charlene in Charge"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 16, 2018 11:31 PM (IqV8l)

432 Actually, the contractors still have to show up. At least, they do in DoD.
Posted by: Country Singer

Any fed building shut down to all non-essential personnel = VACATION! for all non-essential, govvies and contract.

Posted by: pogomip at January 16, 2018 11:31 PM (tBDav)

433 I hope the gov't shuts down. It's my turn to get the vacation.

Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at January 16, 2018 11:33 PM (56GKt)

434 For about the four-hundredth time this past year, I just read another story about a young black girl murdering a young white girl, after making her life a living hell by bullying her.

Putting the lie to "diversity" being anything other than a scam.

About 1/4 of the black population in this country has decided that whitey just don't understand. And you know what? They are correct.

If there is some sort of benefit to "black ghetto culture," I would welcome it. But to my mind, there is nothing there worth retaining in a civilized society.

Perhaps it is the ghetto-minded youths who could use a bit of "diversity" by learning to value something like civilized behavior and respecting the rights and lives of others, rather than simply servicing their own id.

/rant off for tonight.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 16, 2018 11:33 PM (NXsWM)

435 cfo mom it depends but yes, most times govt. employees end up being paid for their temporary furloughs during "shut-downs". Contractors, however, sometimes don't. Ask me how I know.


And Apache, there's a longer answer to your question, but the short version is: no appropriations bills lasting beyond the "shut-down" date have been passed by Congress and signed by the president. So, no $$$.


House passed, in regular order, all appropriations bills (not good ones, but at least they passed them). Senate, however has passed none. Because with 48 votes, Dems can block everything except budget resolution/reconciliation (different item from appropriations, and they come with their own debate times and need for only a majority vote), and judicial nominations. 60 votes would be needed to pass any of the House appropriations bills, or Senate versions with which to go to conference with the House.


There is absolutely a way to manage a "shut-down" that would be educational and politically dangerous for the Dems - especially if their hill to die on is amnesty! (DACA), and opposing border security and real immigration reform (the presumed "price" for DACA). In fact, as I keep saying, it's a political situation one normally only dreams about - Dems lying down on the railroad tracks for a wildly unpopular cause (DACA amnesty, and opposition to border security/real reform), against a popular president (and he is).


I would hope that OMB has already mapped out some options for Trump. Govt. functions can be selectively shut down. One can maximize pain among Dem constituencies, or maximize "nobody notices or cares" stuff, or some combo. All the time using available funds to pay interest on bonds, military expenditures, and other favored things. All the while - beating the bejeesus out of the Dems for sabotaging the entire national govt. in order to get amnesty for a small group of law-breakers, and to stop Trump from enacting the immigration agenda he ran and won on.


The only problem - surprise! - is the GOP. They show no signs of re-introducing politics to politics, or wanting to savage the Dems when they are so vulnerable. We'll see, but this is why I remain un-optimistic, overall. Trump is almost literally alone in trying to change the course of most important policies.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2018 11:33 PM (QDnY+)

436
How does it feel to be considered nonessential?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 16, 2018 11:33 PM (IqV8l)

437 Thoughts?
Posted by: 18-1 at January 16, 2018 11:25 PM (Z8FFX)


Open secret that docs will often find a way to overbill people with good health insurance to make up for those who don't pay well. Balancing the books, so to speak. I was charged some outrageous amounts in my life when I had amazing insurance.

I'd demand to talk to the doctor about it....and not be billed. Or, you could threaten to report them too. You could also write a letter to the doc directly. If you continue to be a PITA you may get some answers.

But if he asked, then billed ya, that's appalling. The thing is, he's the one that did it. Unless he has a nurse there who did it for him. So it originates with him.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 16, 2018 11:34 PM (eXZrW)

438 385 Electing Mitt Romney is like electing another Chuck Schumer.
Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at January 16, 2018 11:19 PM (56GKt)

Does he have a fat niece who steals jokes to?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 11:34 PM (3/sUh)

439 Oops. Forgot to denounce my inherent racism.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 16, 2018 11:35 PM (NXsWM)

440 I'll guess the bigger issues with that Dynaco are the capacitors. There's an expert or two here on the geriatrics of caps.

While working at music, I have had two (2) transistors fail in use, and no tubes. That is cocky as hell though, because when I played regular, our rock-n-roll shop was run by an actual instrument repair tech, who had the "good" kind of bench test device; but also, there was no way to unplug and test transistors in that early FET era. Once in a while they just heated right up.


Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 16, 2018 11:35 PM (H5rtT)

441 How does it feel to be considered nonessential?

Like a degree in early Byzantine theological history?

I guess it keeps me busy on slow evenings

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 16, 2018 11:36 PM (6FqZa)

442 Missals not missiles!

Posted by: Francis at January 16, 2018 11:37 PM (/qEW2)

443 >>>Trump is almost literally alone in trying to change the course of most important policies.


A lonely speed bump on the highway to hell

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 11:37 PM (3/sUh)

444 I'll be going from essential to nonessential back to essential again.

I get paid either way.

Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at January 16, 2018 11:37 PM (56GKt)

445 DONALD TRUMP - 6'3", 239
TIM TEBOW - 6'2", 236

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at January 16, 2018 11:38 PM (e8kgV)

446 show if the government tells them to stay home, but that if the "dispute" is settled and they are returned to their job (not permanently furloughed) they get back pay?

Just trying to figure this out.
Posted by: cfo mom

Yep. At least for my 15+ yr contract to a fed entity.

Posted by: pogomip at January 16, 2018 11:39 PM (tBDav)

447 I haven't had to replace any tubes in long while.
I still have some spares, from Russia. Sovtek.
Same as the ones in my amps.
I dunno, got like 26 years of service out of them so far.
I don't think tubes are even manufactured anymore in the USA. I could be wrong about that, it would be a great start up for some motivated young people. I mean, how many more guys like me are there in the US? Maybe a couple hundred. No idea.

Posted by: navybrat, enjoying covfefe at January 16, 2018 11:39 PM (w7KSn)

448 I'd argue they needed an ideology to subordinate the church to the state though.

Which gets us to the other way to upset the balance: Monophysitism. As Theodosius II proclaimed in the two councils of Ephesus before he fell off his horse and went splat.

This taught - and, in places, still teaches - that the Son and the Father are the same substance, and (therefore) the same will (=monotheletism). In this case the church and the state are the same thing.

Either way, you end up with Islam.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 16, 2018 11:30 PM (6FqZa)


I'd call that a bit of a leap, though I'm admittedly not well read on Monophysitism or Monotheletism. However, I'm not sure either was really necessary in the actual historical case. Even during Constantine's reign, you had a big push to make the Church effectively an arm of the state. There were already bishops saying God ordained Jesus to be born during Augustus' reign so that the Church and the Empire could later become one, and almost as soon as he became emperor, Constantine was presuming the authority to judge theological disputes. So it's not like they weren't doing this even before the Arians showed up, or before the later theological compromises.

Posted by: T at January 16, 2018 11:40 PM (MmeCn)

449 Um, nuclear not penciling out compared to solar? Sounds impossible.


And that's leaving aside the widdle problem that solar is not suitable for base-load power, which actually is not widdle, it's kind of a huge dispositive deal.



Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2018 11:40 PM (QDnY+)

450 390,
"How about some "direct action" by the people taking those barriers down?"



They're metal. Recycle them - for money.

Posted by: geoffb at January 16, 2018 11:40 PM (zOpu5)

451 412 Doctor's office sent me a bill after my most recent physical. Which is odd because my health insurance pays for a physical.

I called the health insurance company. They told me they were billed for an office visit and a physical.

I call the DR office and they said "you talked with the doctor about something else so it was an office visit too". I pointed out he asked me about it. They said they would try to bill it out again but now I've gone back and forth with them on it and they seem to think this scam is acceptable.

Thoughts?
Posted by: 18-1 at January 16, 2018 11:25 PM (Z8FFX)


Find a new doctor.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 16, 2018 11:40 PM (h2Bdk)

452 MisHum, exactly. Have been using the "speed bump" imagery since he was inaugurated. Not a done deal. But a very real possibility, given the enduring disconnect between the electorate and policies that the uniparty will adopt.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2018 11:41 PM (QDnY+)

453 Wow, Ace at the ONT! Never seen before. :-)

Welcome!

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 16, 2018 11:42 PM (eMKNe)

454 Doctor's office sent me a bill after my most recent physical. Which is odd because my health insurance pays for a physical.

I called the health insurance company. They told me they were billed for an office visit and a physical.

I call the DR office and they said "you talked with the doctor about something else so it was an office visit too". I pointed out he asked me about it. They said they would try to bill it out again but now I've gone back and forth with them on it and they seem to think this scam is acceptable.

Thoughts?
Posted by: 18-1 at January




well, you do have to give us more information. what could you talk to a doctor that would somehow not be related to a physical?

We are assuming it was a traditional western medicine doctor not some shaman or witch doctor.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 16, 2018 11:42 PM (MTjB1)

455 I'm not ace.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 16, 2018 11:43 PM (h2Bdk)

456 rhomboid, thank you for your explanation. It is what I suspected and I hope Trump has someone on point as far as making a shutdown be so painless that most folks realize how much bloat there is that can be cut. But I wouldn't mind a bit of pain to certain groups who intentionally f#@8ed with people during Obama's shutdown. Time for Calvinball.

Posted by: cfo mom at January 16, 2018 11:43 PM (RfzVr)

457 I'm not Julie.

My name is Lisa.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 16, 2018 11:43 PM (QLvwG)

458 Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2018 11:41 PM (QDnY+)

What type of a relationship do you think he has with Pence? And is Pence doing anything behind the scenes to help PDT?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 11:44 PM (3/sUh)

459 they say Constantine was baptised Eunomian in his last years, and since Constantius II (his heir in the east) was in that party I tend to believe that...

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 16, 2018 11:44 PM (6FqZa)

460 60 votes would be needed to pass any of the House appropriations bills, or Senate versions with which to go to conference with the House.

I bet McConnell and company say thanks daily for the stupid damn filibuster rule. It covers their ass ... giving them a perfect excuse for not pushing through their promises.

I'd love to see 'em get 60 seats ... just to hear their next bullshit excuse.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 16, 2018 11:44 PM (NWyC0)

461 Mitt will be McCain's replacement. Much smarter, less psycho, but sort of the reverse-conscience of the Senate GOP, and always there to chime in with the nonsense that has brought the country to its current sad state - whatever his votes are. The very fact that he's seeking the seat greatly, greatly reduces my respect for him. He's either much more of a moonbat/lightweight than I thought, or he's got power madness issues.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2018 11:45 PM (QDnY+)

462
what could you talk to a doctor that would somehow not be related to a physical?

Did you catch that Vikings game last night?

Posted by: Dr. Overcharge at January 16, 2018 11:45 PM (IqV8l)

463 I noticed someone above was talking about state vs church.

Maybe I'm the victim of lib propaganda growing up and in my education, but as I understand it, throughout a lot of the last 1500 years, the church *was* the state in many lands, especially in Europe.

That's, I assume, just one of the background facts behind great historical epics like "A Man For All Seasons," and also why Luther was considered such a threat. When Henry VIII said England is no longer a Catholic nation, we are now an Anglican nation (for his own selfish reasons again IMHO), that wasn't just a bureaucratic switch; it was literally a man-made thunderbolt of cultural change. At least that's how I understand it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 16, 2018 11:45 PM (eMKNe)

464 Thanks for the ONT.

Tippecanoe and Tyler too!

Good quotes up top- save the last. I grow more and more tired of the people who denigrate Trump.

Judge a man by what he does- not what he says or what you heard he said.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 16, 2018 11:45 PM (sZJfc)

465 Thoughts?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 16, 2018 11:25 PM (Z8FFX)


Did they define what the 'something else' was you talked about? Geez, when you have a physical, exactly what is off limits conversation/questions? Maybe your doc needs to spell that out in the fine print when you make an appointment for your next physical.

Posted by: RickZ at January 16, 2018 11:45 PM (c0Eoq)

466 Git back.....saw your comment on the thread below.

Yes.....Flatirons is a sh*thole

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 16, 2018 11:46 PM (mMeIQ)

467 Posted by: 18-1 at January 16, 2018 11:25 PM (Z8FFX)



Next time you go to docs, this guy or someone else, when he hands you the paperwork, ask him what the charge codes are that he writes down. It will annoy him though. And he may try and blow you off.

Then you can try with office staff before you leave. Or refuse to leave without answers. If you are having that much trouble getting a straight answer, it is suspicious.

But if you don't deal with it at point of service, it is much more difficult afterwards. As you are finding out.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 16, 2018 11:46 PM (eXZrW)

468 >>>Did you catch that Vikings game last night?


Funny thing mine is a Vikes fan. He could pose that question to me and further review my HBP

Go Packers & %#{} the Vikes

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 16, 2018 11:48 PM (3/sUh)

469 so some girl, who everyone says was a bond girl, says steven seagal raped her or something.


so, what is the definition of Bond Girl? Is every girl in a Bond movie a Bond Girl or are there some criteria which define Bond Girl?

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 16, 2018 11:48 PM (MTjB1)

470 The drugstore kind, or the service shop kind? I see the former at swap meets all the time, and a friend of mine has one. I have a couple of the service shop kind. I could part with one.


Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2018 11:12 PM (sD2WN)


Whatever works good. lol

I don't need to test a shit ton of different tubes, just ones I deal with a lot. 12AX7 types, and bigger power tubes, like EL34, 6550, 6L6, KT88, etc.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 16, 2018 11:48 PM (aMlLZ)

471 Arius this and Arius that.

It's always tough for a Bogomil.


At least they never joined the World Council of Churches. Bogo, but not Bolshie.


Posted by: Miklos Molnar, tiye friendly neighborhood cathar at January 16, 2018 11:49 PM (zCyNd)

472 The King and Church were 2 different things, and they didn't always agree.

See Thomas Beckett.

Posted by: navybrat, enjoying covfefe at January 16, 2018 11:49 PM (w7KSn)

473 He's either much more of a moonbat/lightweight than I thought, or he's got power madness issues.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2018 11:45 PM (QDnY+)


He's a lock to support Impeachment and removal from office.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 16, 2018 11:49 PM (NWyC0)

474 dash dash dash:

The Bond Girls were the actresses that the actor playing Bond, er, 'seduced' in each story.

So each movie, as I understand it, has one Bond Girl.

Although that'll probably change soon along with everything else. Get ready for Bond Guys, Bond Transies, etc etc etc.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 16, 2018 11:49 PM (eMKNe)

475 How does it feel to be considered nonessential?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Like any reality, compromises involved. You are treated like overpaid shit. The govvies and contract mgmt take all credit for your work.

I quit 2 yrs ago.

Posted by: pogomip at January 16, 2018 11:50 PM (Ii9jF)

476 Any Black person (Person of color) that would vote for Trump is a racist !!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at January 16, 2018 11:50 PM (hqQ+Q)

477 MisHum, I think relations with Pence are good, and Pence spends much of his time jaw-boning the Hill, in private.


As I've said since before the O-care debacle, I don't sense a very savvy leg. affairs operation at the WH. And Trump himself should, by now, be completely over his apparently earlier position that he could just passively wait for whatever the Hill sends him (he used a cartoonish version of that approach, by his own words, with the DACA summit - but I figure that was pure horses**t, tactical).


It's possible the country, without much help, will fire enough Ds - and Rs - to be replaced with useful Rs, that Trump can enact some of his popular policies. But my confidence is very low. The WH, this WH, this unique presidency, needs to lean into the mid-terms with gusto (and NOT amnesty incumbent Rs who are not useful). Bad mid-term, mediocre mid-term = speed bump here come.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2018 11:51 PM (QDnY+)

478 That's, I assume, just one of the background facts behind great historical epics like "A Man For All Seasons," and also why Luther was considered such a threat. When Henry VIII said England is no longer a Catholic nation, we are now an Anglican nation (for his own selfish reasons again IMHO), that wasn't just a bureaucratic switch; it was literally a man-made thunderbolt of cultural change. At least that's how I understand it.
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 16, 2018 11:45 PM (eMKNe)

It was complicated... Sometimes the Pope chose the King... sometimes the King chose the Pope...

Posted by: Don Q. at January 16, 2018 11:51 PM (NgKpN)

479 navybrat: right, but what you're saying sounds kind of like saying today, the President and Congress don't agree.

Didn't kings and queens often (if not usually) market themselves by claiming "I am God's chosen servant to rule over you," and then bribe the crap out of the Vatican so that the Pope would back him (or her) up on it?

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 16, 2018 11:51 PM (eMKNe)

480 Even during Constantine's reign, you had a big push to make the Church effectively an arm of the state.

The reason the church spread so rapidly throughout Europe is it was an arm of the state in most places. If you were a king of a mostly illiterate country, the church brought large numbers of literate men who would run your bureaucracy. There's a limit to the size of any government in which the king's authority is based on a game of telephone played by heralds.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 16, 2018 11:51 PM (h2Bdk)

481 60 votes would be needed to pass any of the House
appropriations bills, or Senate versions with which to go to conference
with the House.



I bet McConnell and company say thanks daily for the stupid damn
filibuster rule. It covers their ass ... giving them a perfect excuse
for not pushing through their promises.



I'd love to see 'em get 60 seats ... just to hear their next bullshit excuse.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 16, 2018 11:44 PM (NWyC0)

60 votes are not needed... The Senate can change that rule by simple majority vote.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 16, 2018 11:52 PM (FTXAT)

482 Any Black person (Person of color) that would vote for Trump is a racist !!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at January 16, 2018 11:50 PM (hqQ+Q)

So right!!! And that awful Nikki Haley person, well "Haley" doesn't sound very Cherokee to me. Not like Warren.

Posted by: Concerned Woman of Brattleboro at January 16, 2018 11:52 PM (zCyNd)

483 Don Q., right.

I assume who chose who had a lot to do with whichever entity (Vatican vs states) had the bigger army, the most sway over the most other armed-to-the-teeth nations, and the most money.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 16, 2018 11:53 PM (eMKNe)

484 Posted by: 18-1 at January 16, 2018 11:25 PM (Z8FFX)


The really weird thing to me is the doc asked the question that he then charged you for. That's why I mentioned the over charging. Wonder if he has done it to others.

As people above mentioned, a physical is comprehensive, so what could possibly fall outside that?

I find the whole thing suspect.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 16, 2018 11:53 PM (eXZrW)

485 Trending on Twitter right now is "New California", where the non-socialist counties are declaring their intention to break away from the LA to SF Republica Popular de California.

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/953255520260980736

They'd get San Diego and Orange County, but would also have the SHITHOLES of San Bernardino, Bakersfield, Fresno, Stockton, and Modesto

Posted by: kbdabear at January 16, 2018 11:53 PM (eh0Va)

486
It was complicated... Sometimes the Pope chose the King... sometimes the King chose the Pope...
Posted by: Don Q.


Then there was The Man Who Would be King of the Popes

https://youtu.be/L2xWQr4VaUA

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 16, 2018 11:53 PM (IqV8l)

487 461 Mitt will be McCain's replacement. Much smarter, less psycho, but sort of the reverse-conscience of the Senate GOP, and always there to chime in with the nonsense that has brought the country to its current sad state - whatever his votes are. The very fact that he's seeking the seat greatly, greatly reduces my respect for him. He's either much more of a moonbat/lightweight than I thought, or he's got power madness issues.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2018 11:45 PM (QDnY+)


On the plus side, Mitt doesn't have the "war hero" cachet, so we can savage him at will.

Posted by: rickl at January 16, 2018 11:53 PM (sdi6R)

488 T, did you set this curriculum yourself? From the Beginning of The World until The Reformation doesn't sound like the Early European Civ layout I worked under. If this is one semester, I'm going to assume you teach at a church-sponsored college, and with the Reformation as the cutoff, that won't be a Catholic church college amirite?

Do you guys get into battles and inventions and agriculture and stuff, or is it mostly just the heresies?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 16, 2018 11:54 PM (H5rtT)

489 Ah, the Divine Right of Kings.

Yes, religious wars were fought over these and other lesser principles.

Posted by: navybrat, enjoying covfefe at January 16, 2018 11:54 PM (w7KSn)

490 I noticed someone above was talking about state vs church.

Maybe I'm the victim of lib propaganda growing up and in my education, but as I understand it, throughout a lot of the last 1500 years, the church *was* the state in many lands, especially in Europe.

That's, I assume, just one of the background facts behind great historical epics like "A Man For All Seasons," and also why Luther was considered such a threat. When Henry VIII said England is no longer a Catholic nation, we are now an Anglican nation (for his own selfish reasons again IMHO), that wasn't just a bureaucratic switch; it was literally a man-made thunderbolt of cultural change. At least that's how I understand it.


Posted by: qdpsteve at January 16, 2018 11:45 PM


Sort of. England was always a bit different to France and Spain in that regard, long before Henry VIII. Plantagenet kings told the church to GFY a number of times, when it got in the way. Henry just ended it and went and formed his own club.

Posted by: mr lahey at January 16, 2018 11:54 PM (qGuLD)

491 A certain amount of overcharging is built into the system - the patient doesn't care since it's not his money. But at some point your doctor has stepped over the line.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 16, 2018 11:55 PM (h2Bdk)

492 "Once again, not content to save souls Pope Francis warns the world about governmental boo-boos."


Integration Of Church And State!

Posted by: BuddyPC at January 16, 2018 11:55 PM (ulnyA)

493 I rate my chances of being made national security advisor by Trump higher than his chance of being impeached or convicted. Completely in the vapor as to how anyone thinks there's a chance of either.


Then again, there's 200 rounds of 9mm that aren't going to load themselves. So off I go, for now.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2018 11:55 PM (QDnY+)

494

IIRC

Posted by: otho at January 16, 2018 11:55 PM (qGuLD)

495 60 votes are not needed... The Senate can change that rule by simple majority vote.
Posted by: redbanzai at January 16, 2018 11:52 PM (FTXAT)


I know red. Tells us just how serious the GOPe is about fighting back, don't it.

When Dems take over the Senate next and shit-can the filibuster on Day One ... I can't wait for the GOPe Apologists around here to explain why keeping it in place was such a great idea.

Hell ... maybe we'll get another stupid fucking I Love My Country - City On A Hill speech thrown in for free. That'll be a treat.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 16, 2018 11:56 PM (NWyC0)

496 Did he ask you if you like Trump and you said yes?

B/c that'd get ya charged extra for sure!

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 16, 2018 11:56 PM (eXZrW)

497 all this said, I do appreciate T's efforts to challenge my weird interpretations on the theologies involved. Thanks !

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 16, 2018 11:57 PM (6FqZa)

498 @490 Sort of. England was always a bit different to France and Spain in that regard, long before Henry VIII. Plantagenet kings told the church to GFY a number of times, when it got in the way. Henry just ended it and went and formed his own club.
-------------------

Fact is, the Church was only over kings to the extent that an upset Pope would cause problems in the King's domain. If a king was strong enough and secure enough to ignore the Pope, then there wasn't much that the Pope could do about it. The important thing for the king is whether or not ignoring the Pope would provide openings for the king's political opponents.

Posted by: junior at January 16, 2018 11:57 PM (KGApI)

499 Ace, sounds like you and I are pretty much on the same page about the relationship of the state and church in Europe through the centuries.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 16, 2018 11:57 PM (eMKNe)

500 The Church during the middle ages was a real show.

Think of it, you are a peasant, you don't read or write, there is no tv or radio, you live a short life, pleasures are few.

Then, you go to church. You are surrounded by art, sculptures, music, good smells, maybe some relics here and there.

It was the only escape from drudgery. You didn't come there for the sermon, which was in Latin, which you don't speak or understand.

Stay for the casserole!

Posted by: navybrat, enjoying covfefe at January 16, 2018 11:58 PM (w7KSn)

501 470 One prob with many tube testers is that they don't uses as high a voltage as a real amp

Posted by: MAxIE at January 17, 2018 12:00 AM (9TR2V)

502 483 Don Q., right.

I assume who chose who had a lot to do with whichever entity (Vatican vs states) had the bigger army, the most sway over the most other armed-to-the-teeth nations, and the most money.
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 16, 2018 11:53 PM (eMKNe)

It was very complicated... Like in the War of 3 Charles in France (3 different Kings named Charles who all thought they were King)... the winner was the one who switched to Catholicism and got the Pope to give him his blessing...

Pulling a LOT of Catholic retainers over to him... because back then, religious edicts had a LOT of pull with the Nobility... just not necessarily the Royalty.

Posted by: Don Q. at January 17, 2018 12:00 AM (NgKpN)

503 Stay for the casserole!

Posted by: navybrat, enjoying covfefe at January 16, 2018 11:58 PM (w7KSn)

If I recall correctly, Jethro Tull invented Jello salad, right?

Posted by: Medieval Miklos at January 17, 2018 12:00 AM (zCyNd)

504 501 craigslist and offerup all day long

Posted by: MAxIE at January 17, 2018 12:01 AM (9TR2V)

505 re Flatirons Mall - it's not the worst mall I've seen (I've been to Gunspoint in north Houston, so... yeah) but I agree it is not long for this world.

Maybe they'll replace it with apartments. I'd hate to lose the area though. Twin Peaks, Red Robin, 2nd & Charles (love that place), all those restaurants, the AMC ...

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 17, 2018 12:01 AM (6FqZa)

506 navybrat, yup.

And the priest (who were often quite wealthy compared to their flocks), in fairness, probably was always "too busy" to speak to any of the peasants one-on-one) would at least tell them they were precious in the eyes of God, and that they'd go to Heaven someday.

Most everyone else would only tell them to shut up and get back to work.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 17, 2018 12:01 AM (eMKNe)

507 Sort of. England was always a bit different to France and Spain in that regard, long before Henry VIII. Plantagenet kings told the church to GFY a number of times, when it got in the way. Henry just ended it and went and formed his own club.
Posted by: mr lahey at January 16, 2018 11:54 PM (qGuLD)


Yes, and part of the reason he did that was it allowed him to plunder the monasteries. It was normal for the church to collect rents from villains on church lands just like any other feudal lord. This was a constant source of contention over the years as kings tried to get at that money as they invariably went broke making war on the neighbors.

Also, there was a huge conflict over who would appoint church officials. The Pope naturally believed bishops should be selected in Rome, and the Kings regarded bishoprics as something to be sold to the highest bidder.

Henry VIII ended all that by making himself the head of the church in England.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 17, 2018 12:01 AM (h2Bdk)

508 They'd get San Diego and Orange County, but would also have the SHITHOLES of San Bernardino, Bakersfield, Fresno, Stockton, and Modesto

Posted by: kbdabear at January 16, 2018 11:53 PM (eh0Va)


Those shitholes being located inside the boundaries of a new state have a chance of being cleaned up. Verify welfare/government subsidy qualifications, work with ICE, just to name two new policies.

Posted by: RickZ at January 17, 2018 12:01 AM (c0Eoq)

509
Posted by: kbdabear at January 16, 2018 11:53 PM (eh0Va)



That CA Twitter thread is pretty darn funny.


Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 12:01 AM (eXZrW)

510 If you're interested in English history you can't do better than David Crowder's History of England podcast.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 17, 2018 12:03 AM (h2Bdk)

511 Eeyeeuuwww...just heard about New Jersey's new governor's new commission for undocumenteds.

I'll look through tonight's thread, to see if any NJ residents are plannng to move to, say, Iowa.

Posted by: Shopgirl: #FiretheChiefsDC at January 17, 2018 12:03 AM (gM/fT)

512 Mitt Romney it a putz.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at January 17, 2018 12:03 AM (BHMfA)

513 Eh... David Crowther

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 17, 2018 12:04 AM (h2Bdk)

514 One last. "New California" needs to include CaliGirl's central coast region. Politically non-moonbat (though not as normal as it was until recently). But beautiful, quiet, essential.


It's all silly, of course.


What might not be silly is prosecutions of criminal ("sanctuary") officials. DHS nominee teased that one publicly. Had better be damn serious. Two reasons. Of course, because Trump supporters aren't "Trump supporters". They're voters who want certain policies enacted (by anyone, doesn't matter who). And teasing and then no delivering on something so yuuuge would be politically damaging.


More importantly, if it becomes the de facto situation that federal immigration law can be ignored, officials can commit federal felonies this way, without fear of punishment - then the floodgates are truly opened. No reason to take federal law seriously again.


Just as the administration may be furthering the constitutional crack-up wherein the judiciary essentially usurps any function it pleases, by indulging the lawlessness the courts have so far employed to block Trump's actions, confirming that state/local officials have de facto immunity from federal prosecution on select issues will embolden the black hats and make the steep slope a vertical, slippery wall (with barbed wire and claymores on top).

Posted by: rhomboid at January 17, 2018 12:04 AM (QDnY+)

515 Ace, didn't England also have a "civil war" that makes our "civil war" actually look, you know, civil?

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 17, 2018 12:05 AM (eMKNe)

516 Yes, 510.
Very good indeed.
I also had the pleasure to visit some truly ancient monasteries, still in service after 1100 years or so.
The artisan class was in full flower for the interiors of those places. Take your breath away, it will.

Posted by: navybrat, enjoying covfefe at January 17, 2018 12:05 AM (w7KSn)

517 yeah, but did you see he signed a bill that made law abiding citizens criminals?

90 days to rid themselves of bump stocks or hand cranks.

And that's how confiscation works.

of course since there's no registry (thank god) they don't know who has them. Be careful out there. There be snitches and you now be a criminal.

Posted by: jakee308 at January 17, 2018 12:05 AM (RwBDG)

518 Trump himself should, by now, be completely over his apparently earlier position that he could just passively wait for whatever the Hill sends him (he used a cartoonish version of that approach, by his own words, with the DACA summit - but I figure that was pure horses**t, tactical).
rhomboid
***********

I think it was a threat. I think he was saying you
can't get you act together enough to put one bill one my desk.

Posted by: gNewt at January 17, 2018 12:06 AM (KtcMg)

519 didn't England also have a "civil war" that makes our "civil war" actually look, you know, civil?

I'm on Team Wrong But Wromantic.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 17, 2018 12:06 AM (6FqZa)

520 villains on church lands

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 17, 2018 12:01 AM (h2Bdk)


That would be villeins.

Posted by: Vocabulary Pedant at January 17, 2018 12:07 AM (c0Eoq)

521 515 Ace, didn't England also have a "civil war" that makes our "civil war" actually look, you know, civil?
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 17, 2018 12:05 AM (eMKNe)


If you're talking to me, Steve, again... I am not Ace. I'm his liver.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 17, 2018 12:07 AM (h2Bdk)

522 Ace's liver, okay.

Say hi to Ace for me. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 17, 2018 12:07 AM (eMKNe)

523 That would be villeins.
Posted by: Vocabulary Pedant at January 17, 2018 12:07 AM (c0Eoq)


Villain is the archaic spelling

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 17, 2018 12:07 AM (h2Bdk)

524 The Wars of the Roses

Posted by: navybrat, enjoying covfefe at January 17, 2018 12:07 AM (w7KSn)

525 #412...
A man phones a lawyer and asks, "How much would you charge for just answering three simple questions?"

The lawyer replies, "A thousand dollars."

"A thousand dollars!" exclaims the man. "That's very expensive isn't it?"

"It certainly is," says the lawyer. "Now, what's your third question?"

Posted by: a moslem with rabies at January 17, 2018 12:07 AM (QCX64)

526 #512 Off, ass-fucking sock!

Posted by: andycanuck at January 17, 2018 12:08 AM (QCX64)

527 Oops. I meant #525.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 17, 2018 12:09 AM (QCX64)

528 LOL andy, I was like... what did katya even do...

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 17, 2018 12:09 AM (6FqZa)

529 90 days to rid themselves of bump stocks or hand cranks.

And that's how confiscation works.

of course since there's no registry (thank god) they don't know who has them. Be careful out there. There be snitches and you now be a criminal.
Posted by: jakee308 at January 17, 2018 12:05 AM (RwBDG)


I fail to see how hand cranks aren't illegal even under the old law. When you add the crank you're turning the thing into a machine gun - does it really matter if you did it by adding a bit of hardware instead of some creative filing?

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 17, 2018 12:10 AM (h2Bdk)

530 btw Mitt Romney truly is a putz.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 17, 2018 12:10 AM (6FqZa)

531 The artisan class was in full flower for the interiors of those places. Take your breath away, it will.
Posted by: navybrat
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I come from a family of Yorkshire stonemasons. Finding the sundry carvings done by them is humbling.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 17, 2018 12:10 AM (9tO1t)

532
Francis needs to put a sock in it ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2018 12:10 AM (pNxlR)

533 530 btw Mitt Romney truly is a putz.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 17, 2018 12:10 AM (6FqZa)


Alex, what is "things people have known for five years"?

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 17, 2018 12:11 AM (h2Bdk)

534 LOL andy, I was like... what did katya even do...
Islamophobia! And anti-Mormonism!

Posted by: andycanuck at January 17, 2018 12:11 AM (QCX64)

535 On the plus side, Mitt doesn't have the "war hero" cachet, so we can savage him at will.



Also, he's a Mormon so there's that, too.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at January 17, 2018 12:12 AM (BHMfA)

536 Ahh, tubes. I must confess I don't know much about how tubes (or transistors) work; I've got a basic understanding but not enough to actually design circuits around them. But, I can read a schematic and wield a soldering iron. I've got a tube pre-amp (built from a kit) feeding into a pair of little 6W solid-state (discrete, not op-amp) monoblock power amps (built from scratch on purchased PCBs), and I must say the tubes and transistors pair nicely together.

Posted by: Average Guy at January 17, 2018 12:12 AM (LMcFk)

537 Francis needs to put a sock in it ...
That's what the Moslem with rabies said!

Posted by: andycanuck at January 17, 2018 12:12 AM (QCX64)

538 I don't know how tubes work, but I know that Tubes can rock. ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ_k_VG6Syc

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 17, 2018 12:13 AM (eMKNe)

539 Whatever works good. lol



I don't need to test a shit ton of different tubes, just ones I deal
with a lot. 12AX7 types, and bigger power tubes, like EL34, 6550, 6L6,
KT88, etc.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 16, 2018 11:48 PM (aMlLZ)

I think you would be better off with a mutual-conductance tester, because that would better enable you to match characteristics between tubes in a push-pull pair. Hickock is about the gold standard of tube testers.
When I am home next week, I will check my stash, and let you know if I have a spare one.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 12:13 AM (sD2WN)

540 @535 Also, he's a Mormon so there's that, too.
---------------------

So are a number of us around here.

Posted by: junior at January 17, 2018 12:14 AM (KGApI)

541 They're trying to take away my Puckle Gun? Bastards!

Posted by: andycanuck at January 17, 2018 12:14 AM (QCX64)

542 If you want to learn about tubes, you can go old school:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04sCi50B5CY

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 17, 2018 12:16 AM (h2Bdk)

543 540 @535 Also, he's a Mormon so there's that, too.
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So are a number of us around here.
Posted by: junior at January 17, 2018 12:14 AM (KGApI)



Sorry, I was referring to the Media's hatred of religions who worship Jesus and/or Jehovah (Jews, Christians, Mormons) and how it would be okay with them for us to attack Romney because of that.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at January 17, 2018 12:17 AM (BHMfA)

544 It was the only escape from drudgery. You didn't come there for the sermon, which was in Latin, which you don't speak or understand.

Stay for the casserole!
Posted by: navybrat

Aside from the Latin thing, we call 'casserole' by its proper name, 'hotdish'.

Posted by: pogomip at January 17, 2018 12:18 AM (Ii9jF)

545 They'd get San Diego and Orange County, but would
also have the SHITHOLES of San Bernardino, Bakersfield, Fresno,
Stockton, and Modesto



Posted by: kbdabear at January 16, 2018 11:53 PM (eh0Va)

Those shitholes wouldn't remain shitholes for long if New California went all-in on deporting illegals, and voter ID.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 12:19 AM (sD2WN)

546 521
I am not Ace. I'm his liver.
Posted by: Ace's liver at January 17, 2018 12:07 AM (h2Bdk)


I remember the old Reader's Digest used to have articles like "I Am Ace's Liver" and "I Am Ace's Pancreas".

OK, it may not have been Ace, but some other guy.

Posted by: rickl at January 17, 2018 12:20 AM (sdi6R)

547 Well, I'm too tired to continue and I was looking forward to an Ace's prostate comment or two. Oh, well. Tomorrow is another day.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 17, 2018 12:21 AM (QCX64)

548 @543 Sorry, I was referring to the Media's hatred of religions who worship Jesus and/or Jehovah (Jews, Christians, Mormons) and how it would be okay with them for us to attack Romney because of that.
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Sorry. Carry on then.

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@545 Those shitholes wouldn't remain shitholes for long if New California went all-in on deporting illegals, and voter ID.
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Sacramento would resist this tooth and nail. Not only would it cost them power and influence, but it would also threaten the water supply for the metropolitan areas.

Posted by: junior at January 17, 2018 12:22 AM (KGApI)

549 Reader's Digest articles were about Joe's organs.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2018 12:23 AM (IqV8l)

550 A good English longbow would have finished this job.

http://metro.co.uk/2018/01/16/swan-baby-fight-lives-shot-crossbow-7234860/

Posted by: Henry V at January 17, 2018 12:23 AM (JkygK)

551 We morons are ace's raging case of genital warts.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 17, 2018 12:23 AM (6FqZa)

552 Bakersfield?

Posted by: Buck Owen's ghost at January 17, 2018 12:23 AM (KtcMg)

553 550 A good English longbow would have finished this job.

http://metro.co.uk/2018/01/16/swan-baby-fight-lives-shot-crossbow-7234860/
Posted by: Henry V at January 17, 2018 12:23 AM (JkygK)


Leda's jealous husband?

Posted by: rickl at January 17, 2018 12:26 AM (sdi6R)

554 Aside from the Latin thing, we call 'casserole' by its proper name, 'hotdish'.
Posted by: pogomip

"we" meant Lutherans. Tired, time for more flu fighter fluids!

Posted by: pogomip at January 17, 2018 12:26 AM (Ii9jF)

555 I think it was telling when Duke Leopold was excommunicated by the Pope when he imprisoned Richard I.
He cared not a whit.

Posted by: navybrat, enjoying covfefe at January 17, 2018 12:26 AM (w7KSn)

556

IIRC, the mind set of England was different to the continental empires/kingdoms, generally for a number of reasons. Not least of all was the nature of the english throne. The euro kingdoms were more "stable" and enjoyed relative long periods of continuation etc... which lead to a more felxible relationship with the church. England was really more of a conquered land that was beset by ongoing wars, usurpations, rebellions and ruled by dynasties with a somewhat tenuous grip. These monarchs viewed the church in a more combative light, though they drew it's approval when it suited them.

Posted by: otho at January 17, 2018 12:27 AM (qGuLD)

557
I fail to see how hand cranks aren't illegal
even under the old law. When you add the crank you're turning the thing
into a machine gun - does it really matter if you did it by adding a
bit of hardware instead of some creative filing?

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 17, 2018 12:10 AM (h2Bdk)

Because machine guns were defined as using the power of the cartridge to load, cock and fire the next. Shooter has to merely hold the trigger back, and it happens.
Gatling guns do it all by hand crank, and are not BATF regulated, to my understanding.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 12:29 AM (sD2WN)

558 283
Will you cover Attila vs. Theodoric and Aetius in the Battle of Chalons in 451? I researched it and many scholars believe that the fate of the Western world hinged on that battle.

Posted by: jmel at January 17, 2018 12:29 AM (OeWgo)

559 One thing England did have was a well-defined border against the Continent. It took some actual work to invade England. William the Bastard was the last one to succeed at it, not counting invitations of armies during a civil conflict like 1688.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 17, 2018 12:30 AM (6FqZa)

560
As Rich Weinstein emails, “The left questioning Trump medical report should forever be known as ‘girthers.'”




Too bad Insomniac is asleep. Girth is one of his fav words.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 12:30 AM (eXZrW)

561 555 I think it was telling when Duke Leopold was excommunicated by the Pope when he imprisoned Richard I.
He cared not a whit.
Posted by: navybrat, enjoying covfefe at January 17, 2018 12:26 AM (w7KSn)


Yes, but didn't he have his own pope? Or was that later on?

Richard makes me irritated with Hollywood. All those Robin Hood movies painting it like "Oh, now Richard's back and things will be okay."

"Oh thank you Robin, for saving my kingdom and scolding me."

In his entire life the guy spent only six months in England, and he didn't speak English.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 17, 2018 12:31 AM (h2Bdk)

562 test

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 17, 2018 12:31 AM (PUmDY)

563 Will you cover Attila vs. Theodoric and Aetius in the Battle of Chalons in 451? I researched it and many scholars believe that the fate of the Western world hinged on that battle.

Not sure I buy that. The Western empire was already dead by then. A few Huns roaming around and raping peasants wouldn't have been much different from the previous generations of Visigoths roaming around and raping peasants.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 17, 2018 12:31 AM (6FqZa)

564 How does it feel to be considered nonessential?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 16, 2018 11:33 PM (IqV8l)


Most government jobs would have to be raised 3 rungs to even achieve "nonessential" status. "Wasteful" is the average rating of a government job. "Useless" represents the next higher level.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 17, 2018 12:31 AM (8gDQu)

565 Question. I'm almost over my cold, going on 3 weeks. I've decided next cold/flu, I'm not going to bother with OTC cough medicine, as they don't work unless I take at least 3 times the recommended dose and they make me want to vomit. I plan to use the old fashioned remedy of whiskey, honey and lemon. I don't drink and have no experience with whiskey or any other liquor. I'm asking for recipes and any other advice.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at January 17, 2018 12:32 AM (BHMfA)

566 /okay, there was still an Emperor in the west - Valentinian III - but he was a total loser and lacked authority outside Italy.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 17, 2018 12:32 AM (6FqZa)

567 Katya: have you tried warming up that toddy ?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 17, 2018 12:32 AM (6FqZa)

568 I've concluded that Richard I, while a romantic figure, was a colossal screw up.
He was not a good King, but was a great warrior.
The ransom that was paid for him built the walls around old Vienna.

Posted by: navybrat, enjoying covfefe at January 17, 2018 12:34 AM (w7KSn)

569 Boulder, I haven't tried it yet. I'm not in need of it now but I anticipate at least one more go around this Winter.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at January 17, 2018 12:34 AM (BHMfA)

570 Wahington Beacon did a supercuts version for those of us who did not see the press conference. Omgawd. I can't decide whether to laugh or cry.

That poor doctor. Who is hot by the way. I mean really good-looking. And with the patience of Job.

https://tinyurl.com/ybgovuwn

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 12:36 AM (eXZrW)

571 Because machine guns were defined as using the power of the cartridge to load, cock and fire the next. Shooter has to merely hold the trigger back, and it happens.
Gatling guns do it all by hand crank, and are not BATF regulated, to my understanding.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 12:29 AM (sD2WN)


I looked it up after reading your comment. As usual, the law isn't consistent - hand cranked Gatling guns are not considered machine guns, but electrically operated Gatling guns are considered machine guns even though they aren't powered by the cartridge.

Historical Gatling guns aren't even firearms, legally, because of the paper cartridge.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 17, 2018 12:37 AM (h2Bdk)

572 I remember the old Reader's Digest used to have articles like "I Am Ace's Liver" and "I Am Ace's Pancreas".
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My Most Unforgettable Liver

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 17, 2018 12:39 AM (cp1if)

573 This was on Clay Travis's Twitter feed...some idiot asked about Kaepernick during this press conference.

Worth the 30 sec watch -- this guy is my new favorite athlete:
https://mobile.twitter.com/telegraph_sport/status/953062064062369792

Posted by: Shopgirl: #FiretheChiefsDC at January 17, 2018 12:40 AM (gM/fT)

574 Sacramento would resist this tooth and nail. Not
only would it cost them power and influence, but it would also threaten
the water supply for the metropolitan areas.





Posted by: junior at January 17, 2018 12:22 AM (KGApI)

I am presuming Sacramento would not be the capital of "New California", or if it were, there would be a revolutionary government there calling the shots, as the lamp posts groaned under an unaccustomed strain.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 12:40 AM (sD2WN)

575 I can't believe Sanjay Gupta asked if the President had to be sedated.

And what was with the girl and the "sniffles" question.

Our press corps is a national and international embarrassment.

Laughingstock of popinjays.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 12:41 AM (eXZrW)

576 Dog

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 17, 2018 12:41 AM (PUmDY)

577 I once sent Ace a link to some blog catnip - something he just had to post. At the bottom of the post he said something like "and thanks to, uh, my liver for this one".

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 17, 2018 12:41 AM (h2Bdk)

578 It just occurred to me, has anyone seen Y5 around lately?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 17, 2018 12:42 AM (cp1if)

579 "I Am Ace's Pancreas".
My Most Unforgettable Liver
___________________________
Livers in These United States
Liver, The Best Medicine
Liver in Uniform

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 17, 2018 12:44 AM (H5rtT)

580 Hammer.....something to do with the move. He's gone dark. I blame myself

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 17, 2018 12:45 AM (mMeIQ)

581 An Erotic Clothing Company's Newest Mascot: An 8 Year Old Drag Queen

Remember that woke eight year old drag queen "superstar" named "Lactatia"? He is now the poster boy for an "avant-garde" vegan clothing company... that specializes in erotic wear and drag queen costumes.

http://politicalhat.com/?p=14344

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 17, 2018 12:46 AM (itfg0)

582 Fox is reporting that the COs of the Fitzgerald and the McCain are being charged with negligent homicide.

As many of us suspected, the Navy has decided lax leadership and poor seamanship caused both collisions and has labeled both as 'avoidable'.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 17, 2018 12:46 AM (O+Tv1)

583 Worth the 30 sec watch -- this guy is my new favorite athlete:
https://mobile.twitter.com/telegraph_sport/status/953062064062369792
Posted by: Shopgirl: #FiretheChiefsDC at January 17, 2018 12:40 AM (gM/fT)


Okay, that was funny. Sadly, that sounded like an American reporter. He made an idiot of himself. The follow up question made no sense. At all. Another popinjay.

That athlete was also very cute. And I loved his responses...which added to his cuteness by eleventy.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 12:46 AM (eXZrW)

584 It just occurred to me, has anyone seen Y5 around lately?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 17, 2018 12:42 AM (cp1if)

I believe Westminster Dogshow reported that Y5 is on hiatus because of the stress of moving to Colorado, on top of which he had to change buildings because of noisy neighbors or something. So he has been enduring a CF.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 12:47 AM (sD2WN)

585

Lady Chatterly's Liver

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2018 12:47 AM (IqV8l)

586
I can't believe Sanjay Gupta asked if the President had to be sedated.


There was a point to that one. I think a lot of the newshounds were looking up to "Doctor" Gupta to be Chief Asshole on this issue.

Before the current succession protocol, whenever a president underwent anesthesia, the VP was sworn in, in case he didn't come out of it.

One of the mystic sacraments of the American civil religion.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 17, 2018 12:48 AM (H5rtT)

587 I remember the old Reader's Digest used to have articles like "I Am Ace's Liver" and "I Am Ace's Pancreas".

I remember those! Not a wine recommendation to be had, neither ...

Posted by: Dr. Hannibal ... at January 17, 2018 12:48 AM (AoK0a)

588 Roll away

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 17, 2018 12:48 AM (PUmDY)

589 Posted by: katya the designated driver at January 17, 2018 12:32 AM (BHMfA)

Rum tea. A good pot of fresh-brewed Lapsang Souchong, dark Meyers rum, brown sugar and lemon. I also drink that when I'm not sick, too, so it's a versatile potent potable.

Posted by: RickZ at January 17, 2018 12:48 AM (c0Eoq)

590 Another popinjay.
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It's as though the J-schools and 'Mass Communication' departments are recruiting from The Children of the Corn.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 17, 2018 12:48 AM (cp1if)

591 Admiral doctor said that Trump's health would be good enough for the next eight years. This might be the first time the WH press pool have heard the phrase regarding Trump "eight years". God knows it became a regular phrase of mine as soon as liberals started losing their mind, er, more than usual, after the election.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 17, 2018 12:48 AM (rnAwa)

592 An Erotic Clothing Company's Newest Mascot: An 8 Year Old Drag Queen

Remember that woke eight year old drag queen "superstar" named "Lactatia"? He is now the poster boy for an "avant-garde" vegan clothing company... that specializes in erotic wear and drag queen costumes.

http://politicalhat.com/?p=14344
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 17, 2018 12:46 AM (itfg0)


Child abuse. And the acceleration of cultural moral decay and hedonism and perversion.


Disgusting.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 12:48 AM (eXZrW)

593 Hammer.....something to do with the move. He's gone dark. I blame myself

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 17, 2018 12:45 AM (mMeIQ)

I am sure it's not your fault. Maybe Mrs. Five has laid down the law on him.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 12:49 AM (sD2WN)

594 Any fed building shut down to all non-essential personnel = VACATION! for all non-essential, govvies and contract.

Posted by: pogomip at January 16, 2018 11:31 PM (tBDav)


All I know is, as a contractor, I had to show for work during the last shutdown along with the active duty personnel. GS civilians were at home.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 17, 2018 12:51 AM (yzxic)

595 561
555 I think it was telling when Duke Leopold was excommunicated by the Pope when he imprisoned Richard I.

He cared not a whit.

Posted by: navybrat, enjoying covfefe at January 17, 2018 12:26 AM (w7KSn)



Yes, but didn't he have his own pope? Or was that later on?



Richard makes me irritated with Hollywood. All those Robin Hood
movies painting it like "Oh, now Richard's back and things will be
okay."



"Oh thank you Robin, for saving my kingdom and scolding me."



In his entire life the guy spent only six months in England, and he didn't speak English.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 17, 2018 12:31 AM (h2Bdk)

===============
That's a point not often appreciated. The English ruling class was essentially Frenchmen fighting over the French crown until the loss of northern France in the early 13th century. Not long after, in the mid 13th century, it was decreed that copies of the peace settlement between Henry III and Simon de Montefort reform movement be distributed throughout the counties in Latin, French, and English: the first time it had been used in any official capacity in about 200 years. It was indicative of a trend that would culminate with Henry VI (I think) ascension to the throne in the 15th century as the first English king since 1066 who spoke English as his 1st language, though I'd argue they thought of themselves as English earlier than
then (I seem to remember learning Edward III learned English as a 2nd
language) The Hundred Years War was as much a war of English Conquest as it was Frenchmen fighting over the French throne. All it took was being severed from their homeland and a shitload of the aristocracy dying during the Black Death to get the aristocracy to think of themselves as English.

Posted by: Jackal at January 17, 2018 12:51 AM (o3+fQ)

596 @581 "Lactatia"?
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'Lactatia'?

Really?

As in, lactate?

If nothing else, the parents should be arrested for child abuse due to the lousy name they gave their kid.

Posted by: junior at January 17, 2018 12:51 AM (KGApI)

597 As many of us suspected, the Navy has decided lax leadership and poor seamanship caused both collisions and has labeled both as 'avoidable'.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic
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*files in 'No Shit?' folder*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 17, 2018 12:51 AM (5OO3x)

598 There was a point to that one. I think a lot of the
newshounds were looking up to "Doctor" Gupta to be Chief Asshole on this
issue.

Before the current succession protocol, whenever a
president underwent anesthesia, the VP was sworn in, in case he didn't
come out of it.

One of the mystic sacraments of the American civil religion.




Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 17, 2018 12:48 AM (H5rtT)

I knew a guy named "Gupta", and you guessed it, arrogant jerk. Goes with the territory.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 12:51 AM (sD2WN)

599 And the dog is back in from her trip outside. Back to bed for me.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 17, 2018 12:51 AM (yzxic)

600 AOP.......was just kidding.....but that is possible. Mrs. Y5 is one tough cookie!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 17, 2018 12:52 AM (mMeIQ)

601 'Lactatia'?



Really?



As in, lactate?



If nothing else, the parents should be arrested for child abuse due to the lousy name they gave their kid.



Posted by: junior at January 17, 2018 12:51 AM (KGApI)

There is a brand of butter sold in Canada called "Lactantia". Which sort of make sense. Cows, you know.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 12:53 AM (sD2WN)

602 Hammer.....something to do with the move. He's gone dark. I blame myself

Posted by: westminsterdogshow
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I seriously doubt that. Y5 is made of stern stuff, and is unlikely to do anything he isn't inclined to do.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 17, 2018 12:54 AM (5OO3x)

603 I'm all for cashiering the COs of those two ships, but Fort Leavenworth seems a bit much. Or is it unlikely they'll get prison time?

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 17, 2018 12:55 AM (h2Bdk)

604 17 sailors died. Leavenworth is on the table.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 17, 2018 12:56 AM (O+Tv1)

605 Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 17, 2018 12:48 AM (H5rtT)


Yea, I guess when you watch the supercuts version you lose context. That restores my Gupta faith a little (in not being a total deranged person). Thanks for the info. I'd forgotten that. It is a gotcha question...don't remember if being asked about the Messiah. But at least it is more valid than the rest of the cabal of popinjays.

Yes, I'm using popinjay a lot...but I keep trying to find a word to replace press or journalists or press corps. B/c they are not that.

And popinjay definition is a vain or conceited person who behaves extravagantly, or a parrot. Both fit these numbskulls.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 12:56 AM (eXZrW)

606 The English ruling class was essentially Frenchmen fighting over the French crown until the loss of northern France in the early 13th century.

This is basically true. William the Bastard was a Norman but he was the subject of the King Of The Franks at the time. Later the English lands passed to the count of Anjou, a more froggy county.

Also at the time, 'France' itself wasn't yet a thing. What we now call the south of France was a patchwork of kingdoms and duchies who didn't think of themselves as French in the slightest: Aquitaine, Burgundy, Provence...

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 17, 2018 12:56 AM (6FqZa)

607 Hammer......I was just kidding. He and Mrs. Y5 were here for our Thanksgiving celebration and Friday dinner.

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 17, 2018 12:57 AM (mMeIQ)

608 Leavenworth - if not 'punishment' sends a message to all other COs that the job is not a sinecure.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 17, 2018 12:59 AM (O+Tv1)

609 And I will say again......whomever socked Cooth tonight should be ashamed of themselves

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 17, 2018 01:00 AM (mMeIQ)

610 In fairnesse, if thou willst, to yon Norman aristocracie, had they spoken English in the 12th century, you-all upon hearing it wouldst have cryed, Whatte? Ye Ficke?

Because, Old German Old Anglische. Close to Chaucer's tyme beefore you'd heere any English thatte didn't soond foregyne to thine eeres.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 17, 2018 01:04 AM (H5rtT)

611 And I will say again......whomever socked Cooth tonight should be ashamed of themselves
Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 17, 2018 01:00 AM (mMeIQ)


I was not around for that, but could they have meant Couth?

Or am I being too generous?

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 01:05 AM (eXZrW)

612 And I will say again......whomever socked Cooth tonight should be ashamed of themselves

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 17, 2018 01:00 AM (mMeIQ)

There was also a post socking Chi, and Country Boy showed up for a few posts, and I greeted him, and he responded. I don't think that was a sock, since he seemed normal and friendly.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 01:06 AM (sD2WN)

613 Chaos......chulutu

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 17, 2018 01:07 AM (mMeIQ)

614 610 In fairnesse, if thou willst, to yon Norman aristocracie, had they spoken English in the 12th century, you-all upon hearing it wouldst have cryed, Whatte? Ye Ficke?

Because, Old German Old Anglische. Close to Chaucer's tyme beefore you'd heere any English thatte didn't soond foregyne to thine eeres.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 17, 2018 01:04 AM (H5rtT)


ᛋᛈᚱᚳᚪᚦ ᚫᚾᚸᛚᛁᛋᚳ ᚩᚦᚦᛖ ᚪᚠᚫᚱ

Posted by: ᛋᛖ ᛚᛇᛞᚹᛠᚱᛞᛈᚱᚫᛏᛏ at January 17, 2018 01:08 AM (itfg0)

615 Chaos......chulutu
Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 17, 2018 01:07 AM (mMeIQ)


Oh damn. Yea, being way too generous.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 01:09 AM (eXZrW)

616 AOP........Country Boy did get reinstated. If people are socking chulutu and chi.......that's just wrong

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 17, 2018 01:10 AM (mMeIQ)

617 The English ruling class was essentially Frenchmen fighting over the French crown until the loss of northern France in the early 13th century.

Crowns tossed about by French tarts are NO means for a basis of government !!! Those yellow bellies with the funny accents should have gotten a mandate from the People !!!

Posted by: English peasants in the Autonomous Collective ... at January 17, 2018 01:11 AM (AoK0a)

618 AOP........Country Boy did get reinstated. If people are socking chulutu and chi.......that's just wrong

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 17, 2018 01:10 AM (mMeIQ)

Agree, 100%

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 01:11 AM (sD2WN)

619 I saw Country Boy posts, and he seemed like himself.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 01:12 AM (eXZrW)

620 And about the English Crown's "interesting" history with the Papacy: part of the reason the Plantagenets lost their ancestral homeland was King John royally pissing off the papacy by getting into a fight with Innocent III (I think...) over the appointment of the Archbishop of Canterbury (I think, might have been York). He wound up getting England placed under Interdict that was lifted when John bowed to the Pope's demands. Fast forward a few years and guess who the Papacy gave their support to when the French seized John's continental possessions over him not willing to pay homage and accept King Philip's judgement in a dispute (over a woman IIRC) John had with one of his continental vassals? Yep, King Philip of France. An expensive war ensued that John lost, badly. An in debt John decided to levy taxes to pay for it. The Barons took umbrage to that, a Civil War ensued, and the Magna Carta (yeah that Magna Carta) resulted.

...Which John almost immediately declared null and void after he got the Pope's blessing (he, and the rest of the magnates in Europe naturally really didn't like the precedent it set) which led to another Civil War that lasted until John died a few years later and the leader of the rebels, William Marshall, was named the regent for the infant Henry III, who restored the Magna Carta and had it reissued (the existing copy is from this period I think).

Posted by: Jackal at January 17, 2018 01:12 AM (o3+fQ)

621 Navy: Commanding officers in 2 deadly ship collisions in Pacific are charged with negligent homicide.

https://twitter.com/AP/status/953411720562790400

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 17, 2018 01:14 AM (itfg0)

622 'King John was not a good man,
And no good friends had he.
He stayed in every afternoon ...
But no one came to tea.'

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 17, 2018 01:15 AM (6FqZa)

623 Captains of both Fitzgerald & McCain damn well ought to face at least the prospect of Leavenworth.

Seventeen deaths. Hundreds of millions of damage to two critically needed warships, that'll be out of service for years.

A major divot in our AEGIS umbrella, to say the least.

And the denigration of the U.S. Navy as the (formerly) most prestigious and formidable force on the High Seas.

But mostly... SEVENTEED. DEAD. SAILORS.

Those Captains ought to be grateful if they're mere flogged with the Cat o' Nine Tails.

In Nelson's day, they'd be swinging from a yardarm. Nimitz would've had them busted down to Seaman Recruit, and put 'em UNDER Leavenworth.

This was indeed, FELONY level dereliction of duty, in training, situational awareness, responsibility and COMMAND.

In Japan, they'd have already committed Seppuku.

Odds are though, nowdays, they'll end up with a book deal, and spots on The View and Late Nite Comic-less shows.

Keelhauling. At thirty knots, it could solve one hell of a lot of problems, here.

*oops, line snapped... say, was that a momentary wobble in the starboard prop?*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX







Posted by: Jim at January 17, 2018 01:15 AM (QzJWU)

624 It's Missouri night on the cheap movie channels. No more than ended "Under Siege" than "Battleship" came on, which reminds me that I have to start spoiling my April Hawaii trip by making reservations for every damn thing, and one of those is going to be the deep-hull tour of that ship.

I did the regular self-guided tour last time, and was impressed by the history volunteers aboard, a nice mix of old hands and museum curator grads, but you don't get to the engine room without paying that hefty extra fee. Can't wait. So to speak.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 17, 2018 01:15 AM (H5rtT)

625 610 In fairnesse, if thou willst, to yon Norman aristocracie, had they spoken English in the 12th century, you-all upon hearing it wouldst have cryed, Whatte? Ye Ficke?

Because, Old German Old Anglische. Close to Chaucer's tyme beefore you'd heere any English thatte didn't soond foregyne to thine eeres.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 17, 2018 01:04 AM (H5rtT)


While that's true, it wouldn't have sounded strange to English speakers at the time. The fact that the king and his court didn't speak English, and the king kept putting non-English speaking French lords in important positions... grated.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 17, 2018 01:15 AM (h2Bdk)

626 I'm all for cashiering the COs of those two ships, but Fort Leavenworth seems a bit much. Or is it unlikely they'll get prison time?

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 17, 2018 12:55 AM (h2Bdk)


I have to disagree. Being the captain of a Navy ship/boat is not only a privilege but also not easy nor for the faint of heart. Plus, the captain is responsible for his ship. Full stop. The accidents/collisions were preventable if there had been sound seamanship, so the deaths were the result of negligence. To me, these charges signify to the command structure that the Clusterfuck Era of JugEarsMcFuckstick is over so time to get squared away ASAP.

Mermaid out front should have told them.

Posted by: RickZ at January 17, 2018 01:16 AM (c0Eoq)

627 I plan to use the old fashioned remedy of whiskey, honey and lemon. I don't drink and have no experience with whiskey or any other liquor. I'm asking for recipes and any other advice.
Posted by: katya the designated driver
===
Katya, I posted my current flu fighter a few days ago (Sunday night?) but can't find it. The big takeaways where turmeric and black pepper, in large amts, mixed with lime and V8 juice and olives.The vodka was optional.

From memory:
To empy 64 oz container add
1/2 15 oz lime juice (7.5 oz)
48 oz can V8 or generic equiv
2 Tablespoons turmeric
1 Tablespoon celery seed
1 teaspoon blackpepper
2 to 5 oz Louisiana hot sauce

Shake and serve w/4 or more green olives per quart mason jar.

Voda is optional.

Posted by: pogomip at January 17, 2018 01:16 AM (Ii9jF)

628 Was Oscar the King of the Franks?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2018 01:19 AM (IqV8l)

629 Odds are though, nowdays, they'll end up with a book deal, and spots on The View and Late Nite Comic-less shows.



Sadly, I thought along similar lines. Also, since we don't enforce certain laws anymore...well, I have doubts about punishment...b/c the feelz. Blech.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 01:19 AM (eXZrW)

630 For the flu/cold season I use Bigelow's Lemon Lift with a squirt of freshv lemon juice and 1 and 1/2 jiggers of dark rum. Haven't had flu for over 20 yrs.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 17, 2018 01:20 AM (O+Tv1)

631 Barney's more like the Pimp Of The Franks.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 17, 2018 01:21 AM (6FqZa)

632 630 For the flu/cold season I use Bigelow's Lemon Lift with a squirt of freshv lemon juice and 1 and 1/2 jiggers of dark rum. Haven't had flu for over 20 yrs.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 17, 2018 01:20 AM (O+Tv1)


I never get the flu either, but it's more because I'm mostly a hermit.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 17, 2018 01:22 AM (h2Bdk)

633 *shakes head awake*

Must get to bed.

G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy.

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 17, 2018 01:23 AM (Ckg4U)

634 Vodka is optional? It's like I don't know you people.

Posted by: rickl at January 17, 2018 01:24 AM (sdi6R)

635 Nite Slap! Thank you!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 17, 2018 01:24 AM (mMeIQ)

636 Ace's Liver @632 - I only leave my cave to renew the rum and lemon supplies.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 17, 2018 01:25 AM (O+Tv1)

637 610
In fairnesse, if thou willst, to yon Norman aristocracie, had they
spoken English in the 12th century, you-all upon hearing it wouldst have
cryed, Whatte? Ye Ficke?

Because, Old German Old Anglische.
Close to Chaucer's tyme beefore you'd heere any English thatte didn't
soond foregyne to thine eeres.


Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 17, 2018 01:04 AM (H5rtT)

=============
Well, maybe. It's worth noting that Late West Saxon (our main record of English before the conquest) was a standardized book hand that was the ancestor of the vernacular of modern Cornwall and Devonshire (think pirate speak!), while Middle and Modern English is descened from an Anglian dialect spoken in southern Mercia, I.e. the modern day Midlands. I don't know how much of a record we have of that vernacular. That said, the last additions to the Anglo Saxon Chronicle (the Peterborugh Chronicle) look a whole lot like middle English and that was written at the beginning of Henry II reign, less than 100 years after the conquest. I think the vernacular english of the time was more modern than we think. Huge spelling differences and Late West Saxon's indirect relationship with modern English make later Old English seem more foreign than it might have been, I think. French did add a whole lot of vocabulary for sure, and really sped up a process of declension collapse that had been ongoing since the first Viking invasions.

Posted by: Jackal at January 17, 2018 01:26 AM (o3+fQ)

638 Pour encourager les autres

I have some faith that the Navy won't stop with just these punishments, though. There was more wrong than just the judgement of these captains -- not that they don't take the responsibility for the vessel itself, but, there's more that needs fixing and we had all best get to it.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 17, 2018 01:27 AM (H5rtT)

639 Stringer @638 - two lieutenants and a JG are also charged. A couple of Sr. Chiefs may be included as well.

As for cleaning up the message - these charges should signal a major 'sea-change' in the Dept. of the Navy.

"Sailors. Man your brooms."

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 17, 2018 01:31 AM (O+Tv1)

640 message = mess .

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 17, 2018 01:33 AM (O+Tv1)

641 I have to disagree. Being the captain of a Navy
ship/boat is not only a privilege but also not easy nor for the faint of
heart. Plus, the captain is responsible for his ship. Full stop. The
accidents/collisions were preventable if there had been sound
seamanship, so the deaths were the result of negligence. To me, these
charges signify to the command structure that the Clusterfuck Era of
JugEarsMcFuckstick is over so time to get squared away ASAP.



Mermaid out front should have told them.

Posted by: RickZ at January 17, 2018 01:16 AM (c0Eoq)

I expect the courts martial shall be interesting. How much of the performance failure will be attributed to rules and procedures handed down by politically-connected Navt brass? Like, "you gotta let the trannies have a chance" or affirmative-action type crap? And how much will be contingent on the quality of recruits they had to work with?
I could see the captains' defense being " we did the best we could, given the quality of the sailors we were given, and the constraints we had to work under".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 01:33 AM (sD2WN)

642 I've been reading it may be the worst flu season in 50 years. Which means I'm trying to avoid fast food places & restaurants. And wear gloves everywhere. Especially b/c flu shot not greatly effective.

The last time I had flu, I had never been sicker in my life...and I have had a lot of flus. My temp hit 105.

I was an early contractor...when it hit the general population ERs were overrun, and hallways filled with patients. I think it was a new flu strain or something. I have been compulsive ever since about avoiding sick people in winter.

Told people next time I'm that sick, make me go to hospital. I had a 105 fever...I was not thinking straight.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 01:34 AM (eXZrW)

643 Had a smoked turkey leg for dinner. I am now full. And doggeh is crunching the leg bone into atoms. She has had these before; never any problems.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 01:36 AM (sD2WN)

644 AOP - and my response would be:

"You took the job. You knew the conditions. If you couldn't find the balls to refuse the job because of the conditions you then had an absolute duty to do it better than you did."

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 17, 2018 01:36 AM (O+Tv1)

645 I could see the captains' defense being " we did the best we could, given the quality of the sailors we were given, and the constraints we had to work under".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 01:33 AM (sD2WN)


If that's their 'defense', they should lose. If they felt they were not given quality sailors or the Obama Era rules were full of constraints, they should have done the honorable thing and resign, then go on a full tour of the talk shows to bring this problem to the attention of the public at large. But that sweet retirement pension . . . .

Posted by: RickZ at January 17, 2018 01:38 AM (c0Eoq)

646 AOP - and my response would be:



"You took the job. You knew the conditions. If you couldn't find the
balls to refuse the job because of the conditions you then had an
absolute duty to do it better than you did."

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 17, 2018 01:36 AM (O+Tv1)

Hence, "interesting". I think there will be a whole lot of dirty linen aired.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 01:39 AM (sD2WN)

647 I should mention I've always gotten high fevers. My parents took me to the hospital 2 times as a child for extremely high fevers. 104. I have absolutely no memory of it. So 104 is common for me when I get the flu. I thought it might have sounded alarmist...it doesn't mean anyone here would get that temp. My body is weird.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 01:42 AM (eXZrW)

648 All for airing of 'dirty linen'. I walked away from a Navy career after serving in Nam under Johnson. Would not serve another day under that asshole.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 17, 2018 01:42 AM (O+Tv1)

649 Jackal, it would have been an interesting time to take a walk about England, in the days when the language of the Pearl poet and that of Sir Gawayne and The Green Knight were both current. If you didn't catch what was going around, that is.

Obama promotees, wymynz, minora-T's, trannies -- all have, in their day, stood a deck watch, and one sailor on watch, poorly motivated, untrained, and of questionable moral character, would have prevented either of those collisions. Sure we have some ideological issues, but, this went beyond that.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 17, 2018 01:44 AM (H5rtT)

650 Hence, "interesting". I think there will be a whole lot of dirty linen aired.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 01:39 AM (sD2WN)


Airing the dirty linen of the Obama Era is a good thing.

But now you have me wondering who the witnesses the defense will call to testify. I can see that asshole, former Navy Secretary Ray Mabus, being called/subpoenaed to testify under oath. Now that would be interesting.

Posted by: RickZ at January 17, 2018 01:44 AM (c0Eoq)

651 Be well all you deplorables. We were binge watching Orark, seems like a good show. Anyone else seen it?

Posted by: Farmer at January 17, 2018 01:45 AM (yJ1e6)

652 Why was the CO not on the bridge when he KNEW they were in a high traffic area? Inexcusable. Obama regs and/or poor sailors made it even MORE imperative that he was there.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 17, 2018 01:47 AM (O+Tv1)

653 did i miss anything?

been busy instigating a local political revolt.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 17, 2018 01:50 AM (k4JYR)

654 on the bridge or off, the CO is still responsible, unless shit's changed for the worse.

sounds like "what, me worry?" sank in a bit too deep.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 17, 2018 01:51 AM (k4JYR)

655 been busy instigating a local political revolt.


For realz? Details?

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 01:52 AM (eXZrW)

656 ...been busy instigating a local political revolt.


Posted by: redc1c4 at January 17, 2018 01:50 AM (k4JYR)




Going all Che Guevera on your HOA?


/snrk



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 17, 2018 01:52 AM (QzJWU)

657 red - For my money, I suspect these guys were given their commands BECAUSE they agreed with the Mabus/Obama BS.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 17, 2018 01:54 AM (O+Tv1)

658 been busy instigating a local political revolt.


Posted by: redc1c4 at January 17, 2018 01:50 AM (k4JYR)

Pushing Commies out the back door of your Buick while hovering over an open manhole?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 01:54 AM (sD2WN)

659 What do sex robots and the Church of Satan have in common?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y9fpqa6c

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 17, 2018 01:54 AM (itfg0)

660 Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 01:42 AM (eXZrW)

A 105 degree fever is brain frying territory and is not to be taken lightly. In 1975, before it had a name, my brother contracted Legionnaire's Disease after working under his house, which was by a river and extremely damp. His fever hit 105 and the hospital placed him in alcohol-iced baths to lower his temp. I visited him in the hospital after he was 'back to normal' and he still has no memory of my visiting him.

Posted by: RickZ at January 17, 2018 01:55 AM (c0Eoq)

661 LMAO, I just saw Cory Booker again. It does sound like he says "goat language defesters" WFT?

Yeah Dems, run him for president, that should turn out well. Truly, for those sane of us.

Posted by: Farmer at January 17, 2018 01:56 AM (yJ1e6)

662
I have some faith that the Navy won't stop with just these punishments, though. There was more wrong than just the judgement of these captains -- not that they don't take the responsibility for the vessel itself, but, there's more that needs fixing and we had all best get to it.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 17, 2018 01:27 AM (H5rtT)

The problems are systemic. They have destroyed discipline, and the traditions of the Sea.

The first collision you had an OOD and an assistant OOD, arguing??? WHAT THE F???? on the Bridge? Underway????

But then again they have shortened training cycles due to operational commitments and too few ships.

the Navy is just plain worn out... and making an example of a couple of Captains won't solve that.

Posted by: Don Q. at January 17, 2018 01:56 AM (NgKpN)

663 It is time the Walrus said.

A glass of wine and Salute to absent friends. The bed.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 17, 2018 01:57 AM (O+Tv1)

664 AOP is right, and I hope those captains offer a spirited defense. There are those too debased to feel it, but the entire nation's face is in the mud. The Fleet's reputation could only be hurt worse by outright cowardice, or defeat in action. At that point, the best thing to do is to air it all out. And get to work.

Very dangerous times, for the Fleet and all the military, and our world.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 17, 2018 01:58 AM (H5rtT)

665 OOops, the show was "Ozark".

WTF did one reporter want to know Trump's waist measurement? These people keep embarrassing themselves.

Posted by: Farmer at January 17, 2018 01:58 AM (yJ1e6)

666 652 Why was the CO not on the bridge when he KNEW they were in a high traffic area? Inexcusable. Obama regs and/or poor sailors made it even MORE imperative that he was there.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 17, 2018 01:47 AM (O+Tv1)

We cruised into and out of port all the time without the Capt. on the Bridge...

And they were in a known transit... hours out of port... Capt. cannot be there ALL the time.

OOD fucked up... plain and simple.. but for some reason they are not frying Him/HER?

Posted by: Don Q. at January 17, 2018 01:59 AM (NgKpN)

667 what Don Q said, and no, i has no HOA...

FTS!

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 17, 2018 02:01 AM (k4JYR)

668 Waves at Farmer! You are up late

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 17, 2018 02:01 AM (mMeIQ)

669 For my money, I suspect these guys were given their commands BECAUSE they agreed with the Mabus/Obama BS.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at January 17, 2018 01:54 AM (O+Tv1)


Without a doubt. Everything with Obama was political/'fundamental transformation', including the military/national security. Obama's a cockholster who has skated his entire life. Just once, I wish he'd be held accountable in this life, if for no other reason than to stomp to a bloody pulp his 'legacy'.

Posted by: RickZ at January 17, 2018 02:02 AM (c0Eoq)

670 Posted by: RickZ at January 17, 2018 01:55 AM (c0Eoq)


Yea, 105 scared me, even though used to 104. I asked my friend whose father was a doc, and mom a nurse, what to do. She called them. They said if it didn't break in 24 hours I should go. Thing was, I didn't tell them it had already been close to that 24 hours. Lucky for me it did break within next 12. But I fear I would not have gone even if it had not.

But I should have gone and I knew it afterwards. I just fear hospitals. But I knew I had been stupid. I told friends not to listen to me next time. I was so sick I was not thinking straight.

Unlike other flus, this one scared me and I am still haunted by it. And my stupidity. B/c yes, I could have done permanent damage.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 02:02 AM (eXZrW)

671 AOP is right, and I hope those captains offer a
spirited defense. There are those too debased to feel it, but the entire
nation's face is in the mud. The Fleet's reputation could only be hurt
worse by outright cowardice, or defeat in action. At that point, the
best thing to do is to air it all out. And get to work.

Very dangerous times, for the Fleet and all the military, and our world.


Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 17, 2018 01:58 AM (H5rtT)

Thanks, Stringer. Surely these captains may bear the brunt of legal fault for what happened, but I don't wish to see them be the sole scapegoats for what was obviously a systemic problem. It would be nice to see the shit flow upstream for once.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 02:03 AM (sD2WN)

672 A 1961 film for Convair employees: "Project Mercury and You"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rWGQlDSG7w

Funny, I don't think I heard the word "diversity" in the film.

Posted by: rickl at January 17, 2018 02:03 AM (sdi6R)

673 RickZ....couldn't agree more!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 17, 2018 02:05 AM (mMeIQ)

674 Waves at Farmer! You are up late
Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 17, 2018 02:01

Indeed. I have a seldom day off tomorrow. Hope all is well w/ you and yours.

Posted by: Farmer at January 17, 2018 02:06 AM (yJ1e6)

675 RickZ....couldn't agree more!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 17, 2018 02:05 AM (mMeIQ)


I'm having two conversations: The Navy captains and 105 degree fevers. To which are you referring? Just curious.

Posted by: RickZ at January 17, 2018 02:10 AM (c0Eoq)

676 Good.

Nearly all members of National Park Service advisory panel resign in frustration

http://wapo.st/2DdNANh

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 17, 2018 02:10 AM (itfg0)

677 You too T......here's to you and Jule's. Doing well.

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 17, 2018 02:10 AM (mMeIQ)

678 RickZ.....JEF

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 17, 2018 02:11 AM (mMeIQ)

679 That "U Test M" TV tube-testing machine is fantastic. A real design masterpiece from (just guessing here, based on cultural cues like the fonts and color scheme)...1965?

The layout of the tube thing reminds me of weird memories from my childhood. Another long-forgotten throwback. There used to be an odd arcade game called "Fascination" that involved a flat square board, about two-and-a-half feet along each side, with a 5x5 array of 25 holes in it. The player would put in a quarter and the machine dispensed three rubber balls about the size of pool balls. The goal, if I remember correctly, was to roll the balls so that they fell, one by one, into a three-in-a-row pattern on the board. But it was almost physically impossible, as the balls were extremely bouncy and the holes were only 1/16th of an inch wider than the balls, so you would just roll them out at random and they would bounce and weave around forever -- sometimes literally two minutes per ball -- before each one would FINALLY settle into a hole and disappear. It was sort of an early primitive variant of a pinball machine, but required no electricity.

Along Market Street in San Francisco -- in what is now called "Mid-Market" -- now a miserable drug-filled bum neighborhood -- there used to be block after block of Fascination Parlors, and they were usually filled with old Filipino guys, chain-smoking and playing Fascination all day and all night. And this actually relates to the current immigration argument: SF was filled with single lonely old Filipino guys because the immigration laws of yore would only allow in single unmarried Filipino men, who wanted to work as farm laborers. But no single Filipino women were allowed in to the country, because it was presumed (!!!) that they were or would quickly become prostitutes. The end result was generations of lonely Filipino guys stranded in the US who could never find wives, because other Asian groups in the US (Japanese, Chinese) were kind of racist against Filipinos and would never ever date or marry them, and back then it was extremely rare for a white or black woman to marry a Filipino guy. So SF had literally thousands of these lonely Filipinos, who by the time I was a kid were getting kind of old. And for some bizarre reason there was a massive fad amongst these guys to pass the lonely days by playing Fascination.

Anyway, the whole point of the story is that I, along with other curious onlookers, would spend our days watching the old guys as they watched the balls bounce around. It was, for reasons perhaps never fully examined, truly "fascinating," as the appropriate name implied. But ours was a double voyeurism -- we'd watch the balls, but moreso we'd watch the men, all of whom were in a kind of hypnotic trance in the presence of the balls and their mysterious and always unpredictable dance.

I even tried putting in a quarter and playing Fascination myself a couple times, but it just wasn't nearly as interesting as watching someone else do it.

Now every single Fascination parlor is gone. I wonder if there are any left in the whole country.

Posted by: zombie at January 17, 2018 02:12 AM (42M22)

680 Hi Hat.....will be in Vegas in March.

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 17, 2018 02:13 AM (mMeIQ)

681
OOD fucked up... plain and simple.. but for some reason they are not frying Him/HER?

Posted by: Don Q. at January 17, 2018 01:59 AM (NgKpN)




Seems that they are, as well as a Chief or two, as well.

I fully agree with you on the point that a good CO isn't needed on the bridge 24/7.

That supposes though, that said CO had cracked the whip in the weeks/months before, so as to produce a crew and Bridge Watch worthy of the name, and responsibility thereof.

An attribute of any Commander or civilian Executive, is to be able to create an organization sufficient so as to render said Executive as Operationally Unnecessary, insofar as nominal, routine operations are concerned.

And these two Captains failed in this regard, and failed abjectly, tragically and fatally.

ALL of the facts, including their spirited defenses, need to be aired, no doubt.

But they both still swing, literally or figuratively, when it's all said and done.

That much, can not be negotiable, in my small regard.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


p.s. Hasta la nite nite, Horde!

Posted by: Jim at January 17, 2018 02:13 AM (QzJWU)

682 Zombie....thought fascination was an adult toy store?

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 17, 2018 02:14 AM (mMeIQ)

683 680 Hi Hat.....will be in Vegas in March.

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 17, 2018 02:13 AM (mMeIQ)


Cool.

As always, a tasty beverage is one me.

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 17, 2018 02:15 AM (itfg0)

684 Nearly all members of National Park Service advisory panel resign in frustration



http://wapo.st/2DdNANh

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 17, 2018 02:10 AM (itfg0)

Deadwood status: clearing in progress.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 02:15 AM (sD2WN)

685 682 Zombie....thought fascination was an adult toy store?
Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette


I dunno -- maybe some contemporary sex-toy chain has the same name -- but if so, it would be completely unrelated to the old Fascination Parlors of yore.

Posted by: zombie at January 17, 2018 02:17 AM (42M22)

686
Zombie....thought fascination was an adult toy store?

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 17, 2018 02:14 AM (mMeIQ)

In the immortal words of Homer and Jethro: "She had nine buttons on her nightgown, but she could only fascinate."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 02:19 AM (sD2WN)

687 I just fear hospitals.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 02:02 AM (eXZrW)


That makes you sane.

Unfortunately for me, ER visits happen due to my heart condition; I have and ICD which has fired 10 times since 2011, meaning my heart has failed 10 times and if not for the shocks delivered, I would be long dead. When I went to the ER back before Christmas, just not feeling well/slight difficulty breathing/couldn't get comfortable lying down, I told the ER docs that 'no offense, but I hate coming to the ER/hospital' (except for regularly scheduled doctors' visits as my plumber and electrician cardiologists both have offices in the hospital). The ER doc told me, 'That's a good thing but you have a history and coming here was the right decision.' I got to the ER around midnight, and when I spoke with a doctor around 8 p.m., I told him that I barely could remember coming to the ER, I was so out of it. That's when I knew I was right in going, even though I hate the ER/hospitals. But like I said, ER's and hospital stays are now a part of my life. Getting old and sick sucks.

Posted by: RickZ at January 17, 2018 02:19 AM (c0Eoq)

688 @ Zombie


Midway Dr. in San Diego had Fascination Parlors, too.

As did 4th St. in downtown, which is now the anchor the snobby, pricey, touristy "Gaslamp District".

*break*


NIGHT, DAMMIT, HORDE!

(and this time I MEAN it!)



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 17, 2018 02:20 AM (QzJWU)

689 zombie, while you are here...

I know you have a vast fund of knowledge about pop music of various genres. I rember hearing a song on a country station, I'm guessing late 1960's, which had a refrain, "before the night was over, they were flaoting down the river, their belly-buttons winking at the Moon". Yeah, almost exactly that. Searched on lyrics-search sites, and drew a blank. It was a pretty funny song; I guess you could call it a novelty song, but well-arranged and performed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 02:24 AM (sD2WN)

690 I don't know...I would have least met with them to get info. All the homeless people on that land is not good. Especially causing fires. And I think they wanted to allow water bottles in the parks again, which I'm all for.

If Zinke rejected their other ideas, they may have resigned anyway. I'm not a climate change believer, but I am different about National Parks.

And probably not a popular opinion here.

I'll withhold judgement until I see what Zinke does.

Don't taze me bro.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 02:24 AM (eXZrW)

691 688 @ Zombie

Midway Dr. in San Diego had Fascination Parlors, too.

As did 4th St. in downtown, which is now the anchor the snobby, pricey, touristy "Gaslamp District".

Posted by: Jim


Wow, Interesting! I had always wondered whether Fascination was a nationwide game, or just something local to San Francisco. Not you've opened my eyes -- it existed elsewhere too!

Posted by: zombie at January 17, 2018 02:24 AM (42M22)

692 Night all.

Here is "Satanispiritus" by Astaroth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XRB5ZXI6rI

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 17, 2018 02:27 AM (itfg0)

693 Night all! You are the best

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 17, 2018 02:28 AM (mMeIQ)

694 689 zombie, while you are here...

I know you have a vast fund of knowledge about pop music of various genres. I rember hearing a song on a country station, I'm guessing late 1960's, which had a refrain, "before the night was over, they were flaoting down the river, their belly-buttons winking at the Moon". Yeah, almost exactly that. Searched on lyrics-search sites, and drew a blank. It was a pretty funny song; I guess you could call it a novelty song, but well-arranged and performed.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


Great question! The full lyrics were:

"Seven seasick sailors slowly sauntered into Shanghai [on a] sunny summer afternoon. Seven hours later they were floating down the river with their bellybuttons winking at the moon."

However, I can't quite remember the song title either!

Why I'm able to know the lyrics without remembering the song is beyond my understanding. There are very few things which I do not know, and I haven't found most of them. My well of knowledge is indeed very very deep.

Posted by: zombie at January 17, 2018 02:29 AM (42M22)

695 691
688 @ Zombie



Midway Dr. in San Diego had Fascination Parlors, too.



As did 4th St. in downtown, which is now the anchor the snobby, pricey, touristy "Gaslamp District".



Posted by: Jim



Wow, Interesting! I had always wondered whether Fascination was a
nationwide game, or just something local to San Francisco. Not you've
opened my eyes -- it existed elsewhere too!

Posted by: zombie at January 17, 2018 02:24 AM (42M22)

===========
I wager they were common wherever the aformentioned demo was concentrated. IOW, all along the west coast.

Posted by: Jackal at January 17, 2018 02:31 AM (o3+fQ)

696 Apparently the song is based on an infamous Swedish-language tongue-twister:

Sju sjösjuka sjömän sköttes av sju sköna sjuksköterskor.

("Seven seasick sailors were nursed by seven beautiful nurses.")

Posted by: zombie at January 17, 2018 02:32 AM (42M22)

697 Posted by: RickZ at January 17, 2018 02:19 AM (c0Eoq)


Geez, that is scary. But yea, ya gotta get there. Those are life and death situations. I dread when I get to that place.

I think I know too much about hospitals. So that weighs heavy on me. Ya know the biggest germ carrier in hospitals? Doctors ties. Many have stopped wearing them, thank goodness. At least at the doctors I went to.

I tend to avoid Doctors offices too. But as I get older, I know I must change that.

Problem is, I worked for a Healthcare Risk Management Company for 14 years. And the cases I saw...hoo boy. Put the fear in me.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 02:34 AM (eXZrW)

698 Actually, the full original version of the Swedish tongue-twister is even closer to the lyrics:

"Sjuttiosju sjuksköterskor skötte sju sjösjuka sjömän på skeppet till Shangai,"

“Seventy-seven nurses nursed seven seasick sailors on the ship to Shanghai”.

Posted by: zombie at January 17, 2018 02:38 AM (42M22)

699 I believe the Song Title is

"Gypsy Rose and I don't give a curse."

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 02:40 AM (eXZrW)

700 "Gypsy Rose and I don't give a curse"

Seven starving sailors sold their summer homes in Saginaw to search for something better in Rangoon (in Rangoon)
Down where Salty Sam from Turkistan had organized a marching band of Mau Maus in the Crazy Horse Saloon.
They harmonized together singing verses of the netherworld of darkness in an unfamiliar tune
And before the night was over they was a-floatin' down the river with their belly buttons winkin' at the moon.

Chorus:
Oh, isn't it the same the whole world over? People seem to go from bad to worse.
Whether you're a fighter or a lover, Gypsy Rose and I don't give a curse.

Seven sorry sisters from the Sun Canal sorority went strolling on a summer afternoon
Down where little Ricky Vanderpool would work his way through Sunday school playing his electricfied kazoo
They'd hide their best to back it, not intending to distract it, singing seven kinds of sorry out of tune,
And before the night was over they was a-floatin' down the river with their belly buttons winkin' at the moon.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 02:42 AM (eXZrW)

701 Found it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtau8yaXiQ4

Gypsy Rose and I Don't Give a Curse

Seven starving sailors sold their summer homes in Saginaw to search for something better in Rangoon (in Rangoon)

Down where Salty Sam from Turkistan had organized a marching band of Mau Maus in the Crazy Horse Saloon.

They harmonized together singing verses of the netherworld of darkness in an unfamiliar tune
And before the night was over they was a-floating down the river with their belly buttons winking at the moon.

Oh, isn't it the same the whole world over? People seem to go from bad to worse
Whether you're a fighter or a lover, Gypsy Rose and I don't give a curse

Seven sorry sisters from the Sun Canal sorority went strolling on a summer afternoon

Down where little Ricky Vanderpool would work his way through Sunday school playing his electrified kazoo

They'd hide their best to back it, not intending to distract it, singing seven kinds of sorry out of tune,

And before the night was over they was a-floating down the river with their belly buttons winking at the moon.

Posted by: zombie at January 17, 2018 02:44 AM (42M22)

702 700
Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla


Drat! Beat me to it by a minute or two. I made the mistake of listening to the whole song, to make sure I had it right!

Posted by: zombie at January 17, 2018 02:45 AM (42M22)

703 Cuts blue ribbon in half & awards 1 each to zombie & the professor ...

Posted by: Adriane the Compromising Positions Critic ... at January 17, 2018 02:47 AM (AoK0a)

704 Anyway, AOP: We found the song for you!

They claim it was written by Kris Kristofferson, but he never recorded it himself.

Which makes perfect sense, because Kristofferson's grandparents were Swedish and he knew them when he was growing up -- he undoubtedly heard the tongue-twister from them and incorporated it into a song!

Posted by: zombie at January 17, 2018 02:48 AM (42M22)

705 Kris Kristofferson sings it...on You Tube too. That's the one I watched. I like him singing it more than the other guys.

It was a demo.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 02:50 AM (eXZrW)

706 However, I can't quite remember the song title either!



Why I'm able to know the lyrics without remembering the song is
beyond my understanding. There are very few things which I do not know,
and I haven't found most of them. My well of knowledge is indeed very
very deep.

Posted by: zombie at January 17, 2018 02:29 AM (42M22)

Well, I know I heard the song, more than once, on station CJJC, Langley, BC, back circa 66 to 68, best guess. CJJC was a gospel/country station, then. 850 on the AM dial.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 02:51 AM (sD2WN)

707 Kris K. Also has a somg out there called "I hate your ugly face." I never heard it before. He said he wrote it when he was 11 years old. Cracks me up.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 02:54 AM (eXZrW)

708 Wow! That is the song. I'm listening to the Kingston Trio version right now, but that wasn't the one I remember, I don't think.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 02:57 AM (sD2WN)

709 Jimmy Buffett and the Coral Reefer band should record this song. It is right in their wheelhouse.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 02:59 AM (sD2WN)

710 -2 degrees F...OUCH!!! How did I miss the hibernate alarm?

Posted by: Tentotwo at January 17, 2018 03:00 AM (yhf6w)

711 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 02:57 AM (sD2WN)

Looks like it was recorded by a bunch of different people. Many on You Tube.

Here's the Kris K. Version

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bHeLMRvA2WI

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 03:01 AM (eXZrW)

712 I think this is the version I remember hearing. 1967 was the year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB0F_1Q5baA

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 03:02 AM (sD2WN)

713 Ha. I wrote "somg". Up too late. Can't blame autocorrect.

Kinda like sandwiches being sammiches.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 03:04 AM (eXZrW)

714 I wonder if "I hate your ugly face" was about a girl that rejected the 11 yo Kristofferson. It sounds so 11 yo boy.
He writes he was crying in his beer. So cute and so funny.

That was my big find tonight.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 03:06 AM (eXZrW)

715 I wonder if "I hate your ugly face" was about a girl that rejected the 11 yo Kristofferson. It sounds so 11 yo boy.

He writes he was crying in his beer. So cute and so funny.



That was my big find tonight.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 03:06 AM (eXZrW)

Thank you very much for finding that song! I thing, timeline-wise, the Leroy Pullins song is the the one I heard on CJJC. Sure sounds like something Roger Miller might have done, though.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 03:12 AM (sD2WN)

716 This song so appeals to my sense of the absurd.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 03:13 AM (sD2WN)

717 712 I think this is the version I remember hearing. 1967 was the year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB0F_1Q5baA
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


Bingo! Long years of frustrating half-memories resolved at last!

A similar thing happened a while back with a friend of mine who half-remembered the lyrics "We'll walk the sunny hills of Madrid, laughing all the way" coming out of a transistor radio aeons ago when she was a toddler splashing in the kiddie pool at a motel. She said she had spent her whole life wondering what the song was. I immediately informed her it was called "Frozen Orange Juice," and once she heard it again for the first time in decades she burst into tears, because it confirmed that her memory was true. It unlocked a whole series of childhood memories and revelations that she said changed her life and fixed all sorts of psychological issues involving her family.

Posted by: zombie at January 17, 2018 03:18 AM (42M22)

718 Hmm, also a 1966 recording by country artist Billy Large, and it lists Kris Kristofferson as the lyrics writer.

And an interesting rhythm track on that one, sounds like drumstick rimshots with a lot of reverb.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 03:21 AM (sD2WN)

719 Bingo! Long years of frustrating half-memories resolved at last!



A similar thing happened a while back with a friend of mine who
half-remembered the lyrics "We'll walk the sunny hills of Madrid,
laughing all the way" coming out of a transistor radio aeons ago when
she was a toddler splashing in the kiddie pool at a motel. She said she
had spent her whole life wondering what the song was. I immediately
informed her it was called "Frozen Orange Juice," and once she heard it
again for the first time in decades she burst into tears, because it
confirmed that her memory was true. It unlocked a whole series of
childhood memories and revelations that she said changed her life and
fixed all sorts of psychological issues involving her family.

Posted by: zombie at January 17, 2018 03:18 AM (42M22)

Love the term "half-memories", zombie. I can relate!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 03:24 AM (sD2WN)

720 Thank you very much for finding that song! I thing, timeline-wise, the Leroy Pullins song is the the one I heard on CJJC. Sure sounds like something Roger Miller might have done, though.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 03:12 AM (sD2WN)


I love that I finally contributed something song wise. Not my wheel house. Probably first and last time I ever will beat Zombie to the punch! And I never would have found that cute Kris K. Song otherwise...which tickles my funny bone.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 03:30 AM (Ixqnq)

721 I love that I finally contributed something song
wise. Not my wheel house. Probably first and last time I ever will
beat Zombie to the punch! And I never would have found that cute Kris
K. Song otherwise...which tickles my funny bone.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 03:30 AM (Ixqnq)

The collective Horde mind is a thing of awesome power, Prof. C.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 03:34 AM (sD2WN)

722 I immediately
informed her it was called "Frozen Orange Juice," and once she heard it
again for the first time in decades she burst into tears, because it
confirmed that her memory was true. It unlocked a whole series of
childhood memories and revelations that she said changed her life and
fixed all sorts of psychological issues involving her family.


That is so profound. Music does transport us back to a different time and place. Closest thing to time travel we have. How wonderful it must have felt to give her that gift.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 03:35 AM (Ixqnq)

723 Here's some latter-day rockabilly for you, Prof C:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0ho4royFIo

only slight;y double entrendre-loaded, heh

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 03:38 AM (sD2WN)

724 only slight;y double entrendre-loaded, heh
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 03:38 AM (sD2WN)


Of course. You guys are so funny.

Posted by: prof chaos gumdrop gorilla at January 17, 2018 03:39 AM (Ixqnq)

725 I have to disagree. Being the captain of a Navy
ship/boat is not only a privilege but also not easy nor for the faint of
heart. Plus, the captain is responsible for his ship. Full stop. The
accidents/collisions were preventable if there had been sound
seamanship, so the deaths were the result of negligence. To me, these
charges signify to the command structure that the Clusterfuck Era of
JugEarsMcFuckstick is over so time to get squared away ASAP.



Mermaid out front should have told them.

Posted by: RickZ at January 17, 2018 01:16 AM (c0Eoq)

I expect the courts martial shall be interesting. How much of the performance failure will be attributed to rules and procedures handed down by politically-connected Navt brass? Like, "you gotta let the trannies have a chance" or affirmative-action type crap? And how much will be contingent on the quality of recruits they had to work with?
I could see the captains' defense being " we did the best we could, given the quality of the sailors we were given, and the constraints we had to work under".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

How will they have time to buy 'green' fuel oil if they have to train?

Posted by: Jean at January 17, 2018 03:43 AM (yM/Yl)

726 I've sat and had a beer with this guy. Cool dude, and a huge fan of music, as well as being a working musician:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN2bGZeHVOM

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 03:54 AM (sD2WN)

727 The fat chick asking trumps doc about ice cream today was pretty awesome. Anyone know her name?

Posted by: Fish at January 17, 2018 03:58 AM (Hx513)

728 BS.

if you are the CO, and they don't give you what you need, you have two choices:

pull the pin now, career or no, for cause, or suck it up and hope nothing goes wrong until after you are gone, and that they don't come after you to when it does.

only one of those is moral, imho.

of course, as career junior enlisted, i didn't have much faith in my officers to begin with...

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 17, 2018 04:08 AM (k4JYR)

729 The fat chick asking trumps doc about ice cream today was pretty awesome. Anyone know her name?

Posted by: Fish at January 17, 2018 03:58 AM (Hx513)
---

Twiggy.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 17, 2018 04:09 AM (k4JYR)

730 Well, time to get horizontal. Night, Horde!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2018 04:38 AM (sD2WN)

731 Big Navy has over a 176 year culture of punishing COs that lead to bad press.

CAPT McVay, ADM Kimmel, plenty of others.

The expectations are known. The worrisome thing to me is leadership from the COs failed. There are workarounds with weak OODs and CICWOs. These were not taken.

A bad CO is hard to work around with weak subordinates. Training only gets you so far to overcome poor culture within the life-lines.

Looking at the CO's ribbons, these were heavily rewarded COs held out as exemplars of the Navy operational culture. Yes, poor training is a big issue within the SWO community. The COs should have overcome that. Other COs had.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 17, 2018 04:42 AM (hyuyC)

732 I has snow

Posted by: Skip at January 17, 2018 04:59 AM (aC6Sd)

733 Skip

How many inches?

"Snowfall is like men, until you see it you do not know how many inches you will get." A salty woman I once knew.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 17, 2018 05:03 AM (hyuyC)

734 Looks like just a inch, still coming down but its very fine

Posted by: Skip at January 17, 2018 05:09 AM (aC6Sd)

735 We've been too cold for NaCl to work. Needs to be above 15℉.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 17, 2018 05:20 AM (hyuyC)

736 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 17, 2018 05:21 AM (hyuyC)

737 Luckily because of snow and refuse to drive all the way on the Schuylkill expressway in any snow am getting to go to a job in the next township, for a day.

Posted by: Skip at January 17, 2018 05:22 AM (aC6Sd)

738 Like the Earth Cookies of noble Haiti, there is a long and proud history to open defecation. It ties communities together. It gives a sense of vision and common purpose. It's often where close bonds are forged, some lasting lifetimes. The single biggest regret of my presidency is that I was unable to reintroduce it to the American people who so desperately need it.

Posted by: Obama, from a new memoir at January 17, 2018 05:24 AM (UW4Uc)

739 Obama, from a new memoir

Well, you had the EPA in your corner. For a while.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 17, 2018 05:42 AM (hyuyC)

740 Rush yesterday said he was getting a map posted of San Fran showing all the places to avoid if crap spots.

Posted by: Skip at January 17, 2018 05:48 AM (aC6Sd)

741 Open defecation, much like government, is just a shirty thing we do together. In this case, you'll do together. I prefer indoor plumbing.

Now shut up and eat your Gaia cookie.

Posted by: Clinton at January 17, 2018 05:55 AM (UW4Uc)

742 I just saw on ABC that the (D)s are now admitting they want the shutdown to put the brakes on Trump's economic boom.

Some black lady said, quote, "This president talks about this great economy. The economy will shift if this happens. Hundreds of thousands of people could be furloughed for a while."

They are unashamedly and openly running on the pro-illegal, worse-economy platform.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 17, 2018 05:55 AM (ks6bw)

743 I am Shitholio

Posted by: Butthead at January 17, 2018 05:59 AM (+vbVE)

744 Democrats have to do whatever they can to break apart President Trump's agenda to MAGA, if it becomes a boom they are done.

Posted by: Skip at January 17, 2018 06:05 AM (aC6Sd)

745
ping

Posted by: Vasill Lee at January 17, 2018 06:05 AM (GroCc)

746 ..... only for awhile, American Thinker has a article Why Leftism will never go away.

Posted by: Skip at January 17, 2018 06:06 AM (aC6Sd)

747 Apparently we are having record low temps here in NE Texas. 11 at my house this morning and I have to drive 2 1/2 hours to the VA in Dallas for a nuclear stress test. Yuck.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 17, 2018 06:08 AM (+Dllb)

748 >>I just saw on ABC that the (D)s are now admitting they want the shutdown to put the brakes on Trump's economic boom.

Some
black lady said, quote, "This president talks about this great economy.
The economy will shift if this happens. Hundreds of thousands of people
could be furloughed for a while."




Wow.
Such b@stards.
I don't think this will go as easily as they think it will, though...

Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2018 06:11 AM (W+vEI)

749 Hundreds of thousands of people could be furloughed for a while."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 17, 2018 05:55 AM (ks6bw)


Yeah, and once those furloughed gub'mint employees return to work, they are paid for the furlough period/vacation. While the Dems in D.C. think that might sell, to the rest of the Nation it will be more confirmation of how insular and out-of-touch the Dems are.

Also, the Dems seem to believe in their core that people love the gub'mint. On that they could not be more wrong. So bring on the gub'mint shutdown!

Posted by: RickZ at January 17, 2018 06:11 AM (l79Of)

750 >>Also, the Dems seem to believe in their core that people love the gub'mint. On that they could not be more wrong.

While people will be concerned about our military and DHS/ICE, I don't see a lot of people getting that upset over tens of thousands of EPA, Dept. of Ed, HUD, IRS etc. employees taking a few days/weeks off from harassing us.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2018 06:15 AM (W+vEI)

751 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 17, 2018 06:17 AM (EyPfd)

752 I worked with a couple of guys for seven years that figuratively not only saw, but chased into the woodpile every squirrel. It reminds me of Trump and the media. As they chase a squirrel into the woodpile and all begin barking at the stack of wood Trump then goes to his trained squirrel cage. Grab a new squirrel and turns it out. The dogs of media slowly one by one stop barking long enough to see a live squirrel and then must decide to bark at the woodpile or chase a live squirrel. Then notice weeks to months later the dogs of the Senate and House show up at the same damn woodpile and started barking at a squirrel they never even saw.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 17, 2018 06:17 AM (BtQd4)

753 Nuclear Stess Test, like the one Hawaii had?

Posted by: Skip at January 17, 2018 06:18 AM (aC6Sd)

754 The briefing concerning Trump's health does prove one thing.

Trump really does drive them nuts simply by living and breathing..

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 17, 2018 06:21 AM (EyPfd)

755 That press briefing on his health was a total embarrassment-for them. You stated it well, VIA.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 17, 2018 06:24 AM (8+Ozj)

756 750 >>Also, the Dems seem to believe in their core that people love the gub'mint. On that they could not be more wrong.

Progressive logic:
All people are good at heart and will do the right thing.
Some people do not do the right thing without the gentle nudge of Big Govt so we need Obamacare penalties, Tax on Sodas and Cigs.
There are some people that do follow the law but think wrong. We will force them with media, workplace rules, interweb sites, and (re) education to think and care about the right things.
And finally we will create a administrative state that makes sure (forces) you do the right thing.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 17, 2018 06:24 AM (BtQd4)

757 Cold morning. -5℉ without wind chill. Lots to prep as school opens today after 3 snow days and 6 days of parents trapped with their kids. We must rescue the parents.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 17, 2018 06:24 AM (hyuyC)

758 All my favorite Dems are ignoring the economy, and focused entirely upon their noble battle against White Supremecists. They imagine our suburban cocktail circuit is Charlottesville and the President (whose title is really Grand Kleagle or some such bullshit) is coming to knock heads and seperate happliy married couples so he can deport the husband.

Wild shit, in other words.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, critic de Cinema Verite at January 17, 2018 06:25 AM (XaO9F)

759 167 sex change surgeries ? I dunno seems more than a little insane.

https://tinyurl.com/ya8k4ycg

Posted by: jsg at January 17, 2018 06:26 AM (+vbVE)

760 Even though starting a hour later than usual, still should be home earlier than if I was going to The People's Republic.

Posted by: Skip at January 17, 2018 06:26 AM (aC6Sd)

761 Everyone stay warm and have a good day.

Posted by: Skip at January 17, 2018 06:28 AM (aC6Sd)

762 G'morning, Fen.


Yeh...one could almost replay that entire Press interaction as a Saturday Night Live skit, and people would be convinced it was comedy.

All without ever changing a word of what was said by anybody in attendance.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 17, 2018 06:30 AM (EyPfd)

763 >>"All people are good at heart and will do the right thing."



Make that: "Almost all people are dumb and need me [the progressive] to tell them what's best for them, how they should live their lives, what choices they should make."

Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2018 06:31 AM (W+vEI)

764 Why does Trump keep making Cory Booker cry?

Daniel Greenfield takes down the performance art of the next Democrat looking to be on a national ticket?

https://tinyurl.com/y7rtpkk7

And why is the Director of Homeland security responsible for what Trump says anyway?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 17, 2018 06:34 AM (8+Ozj)

765 Everyone stay warm and have a good day.

Posted by: Skip at January 17, 2018 06:28 AM (aC6Sd)


Same to you. Btw: (If you're still around) Did cutting out the soda drop any weight?

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at January 17, 2018 06:35 AM (2FqvZ)

766 "Why does Trump keep making Cory Booker cry? "

Booker's menstrual cycles are very painful.

Or so I have been told.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 17, 2018 06:36 AM (EyPfd)

767 >"All people are good at heart and will do the right thing."




That's why we have prisons. We are keeping those people in reserve.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2018 06:36 AM (dSqvH)

768 Jeebus. White all over everything outside like it's Harvey's ficus. And it ain't getting above freezing.

Five major intersections between me and work.

This is gonna suck.

Mornin' Horde.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, this space for rent! Call 1-800-MORON-AD for details! at January 17, 2018 06:39 AM (lLeln)

769 766 "Why does Trump keep making Cory Booker cry? "

Booker's menstrual cycles are very painful.

Or so I have been told.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice



Painful and frequent.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2018 06:39 AM (dSqvH)

770 That family photo, though. Oy.

Posted by: sinalco at January 17, 2018 06:39 AM (yODqO)

771 I continue on my eggs and bacon diet. So far, I have been able to stay the course. Today I added a WaWa Kenya AA coffee, $1 for 24 ounces. Unbelievable deal.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, critic de Cinema Verite at January 17, 2018 06:42 AM (XaO9F)

772 Just found out that I get to fly to BWI and then on to Norfolk tomorrow, and then make a road trip from Norfolk to Denver over the weekend. Yipee fuckin skippy.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 17, 2018 06:43 AM (WQ3tJ)

773 In the Ben Cardin/Bradly Manning race, apparently Cardin has yet to formally declare his candidacy.

One way this plays out?

Cardin doesn't run.

Bradly wins the Primary by running unposed.

There is not Republican in the General.

Voila'

Don't laugh...
It's Maryland.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 17, 2018 06:43 AM (EyPfd)

774 Looks like someone has some 'splainin' to do.


http://tinyurl.com/y8uwul2c

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 17, 2018 06:45 AM (EyPfd)

775 Morning' Horde.

Love that Tyler quote. A very under appreciated President. Interestingly enough, although born in George Washington"s time in the White House he has two currently living grandchildren (he was, as a father, shall we say "prolific"?).

Posted by: Publius Redux at January 17, 2018 06:45 AM (0YSzp)

776 All tabs are open; websites loaded. Ammunition at the ready, coffee at hand. Bring on the news.

Posted by: Avery Bellicosti at January 17, 2018 06:45 AM (GroCc)

777 Looks like someone has some 'splainin' to do.


And THAT's how they do it in shitholes.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 17, 2018 06:48 AM (oVJmc)

778 >>>>
Looks like someone has some 'splainin' to do.



.
.
.
.Not really. I am fairly certain they have been doing this for years and just graduating everyone.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 17, 2018 06:49 AM (+Dllb)

779 Love that Tyler quote. A very under appreciated President. Interestingly enough, although born in George Washington"s time in the White House he has two currently living grandchildren (he was, as a father, shall we say "prolific"?).



Think about that and really do the math. Tyler was born in 1790. Two living grandkids.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2018 06:49 AM (dSqvH)

780 Its 12F and the county I live in is under an icy road alert until noon. I don't think I'll be making it into work.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 17, 2018 06:50 AM (Pr4lq)

781 Looks like someone has some 'splainin' to do.
http://tinyurl.com/y8uwul2c



If Democrats actually cared about bigotry they would be appalled at this story. Happily for them, they sleep just fine at night.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, critic de Cinema Verite at January 17, 2018 06:52 AM (XaO9F)

782 Oh and Mitt's quote reveals him to be a f*cking retard. A persons poverty and country of origin are not valid subjects for us to mess when they immigrate and have never been part of our immigration law/history ? Wtf Mitt. Have you forgotten the Chinese exclusionary act? How about the rules that immigrants needed sponsors and to eb able to show that they were NOT going to become public sponsor.

Shut the f*ck up Mittt and let a real American be President please.

Posted by: Publius Redux at January 17, 2018 06:54 AM (0YSzp)

783 Bonham, Tx schools closed thru Tuesday of next week.
Not for weather.

Flu. So many have the flu, the school district decided to close to try to break the chain. The schools will all be wiped down & disinfected to try to wipe out the virus. We're not talking many schools, but still....

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2018 06:55 AM (dSqvH)

784 774 Looks like someone has some 'splainin' to do.

See, what had happened was....Trump and racisms

Posted by: jsg at January 17, 2018 06:55 AM (+vbVE)

785 "Looks like someone has some 'splainin' to do.
http://tinyurl.com/y8uwul2c "


The triumph of decades of work by Our Betters.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at January 17, 2018 06:57 AM (oVWx5)

786 ThatDC School story...

Part of the cause is blamed on 'Administrative Neglect"

Which is apparently the definition used for 'As a Teacher, if you fail this student, you will be punished'.

I wouldn't call that Administrative Neglect.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 17, 2018 06:59 AM (EyPfd)

787 Nope, sounds more like Malfeasance in Office to me.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at January 17, 2018 07:01 AM (oVWx5)

788 Graduating unqualified black high school students?

White privilege.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 17, 2018 07:01 AM (oVJmc)

789 Its 12F and the county I live in is under an icy road alert until noon. I don't think I'll be making it into work.


Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 17, 2018 06:50 AM (Pr4lq)


Lucky you. It's going to be 8-10 inches here and I've been at work since 5.45.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 17, 2018 07:02 AM (kqsXK)

790 When "education" is just another patronage gig doled out to ethnic constituencies, when an uneducated population is seen as solid political base-building, when unions only care about getting theirs...well, let's just say I ain't shocked.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, this space for rent! Call 1-800-MORON-AD for details! at January 17, 2018 07:02 AM (lLeln)

791 MPPPP, I have multiple overpasses to travel over in a vehicle that does not like ice, slid off the road once already in it, and normally a 40 minute commute. And the show and ice were building on the vehicle yesterday afternoon even under the carport. So I am voting for safety.

Downside? Cats staying inside with me until things warm up.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 17, 2018 07:05 AM (Pr4lq)

792 >>Flu. So many have the flu, the school district decided to close to try
to break the chain. The schools will all be wiped down disinfected
to try to wipe out the virus.


Good - I'm glad they're taking it seriously.
So much of the 21st century seems to be people bound and determined to unlearn the lessons of the past few centuries....

Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2018 07:06 AM (W+vEI)

793 OK, going to shower, dress, and eat like I'm going to work. Maybe my bosses will decide to shut it down rather than deal with the day's road conditions...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, this space for rent! Call 1-800-MORON-AD for details! at January 17, 2018 07:06 AM (lLeln)

794 Emergency prayer I just found my wife unconscious with her face in a bowl of water. Emergency services working on her.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 17, 2018 07:08 AM (nBr1j)

795 Brother Cavil good luck I called in and they said I must make the decision.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 17, 2018 07:08 AM (Pr4lq)

796 MPPPP, I have multiple overpasses to travel over in a vehicle that does not like ice, slid off the road once already in it, and normally a 40 minute commute. And the show and ice were building on the vehicle yesterday afternoon even under the carport. So I am voting for safety.

Downside? Cats staying inside with me until things warm up.


Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 17, 2018 07:05 AM (Pr4lq)


I don't blame you, Anna. I'd do the same if I were you.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 17, 2018 07:09 AM (kqsXK)

797 Posted by: Northernlurker at January 17, 2018 07:08 AM (nBr1j)

Oh, no! Prayers up, now.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 17, 2018 07:10 AM (kqsXK)

798 No scandal ever changes the DC public school system. It is an entrenched bureaucracy that functions to benefit the employees not the students. They simply hunker down and wait out any scandal or new administrator their to fix things. The fixers never last, they move on and the bureaucrats do as they've always done.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2018 07:10 AM (W+vEI)

799 Prayers sent, Northernluker!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2018 07:10 AM (W+vEI)

800

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 17, 2018 07:11 AM (mPeei)

801 What fresh hell is this?

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7hdju5c

Posted by: Huck Follywood, critic de Cinema Verite at January 17, 2018 07:11 AM (XaO9F)

802 Yeah ~ on that DC school story. "Administrative neglect" is an interesting way to say "Criminal Fraud"

Posted by: Publius Redux at January 17, 2018 07:11 AM (0YSzp)

803 "Oh, no! Prayers up, now."

Same here.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 17, 2018 07:12 AM (EyPfd)

804 One of the worst moments of my life happening in front of my face.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 17, 2018 07:13 AM (nBr1j)

805 Posted by: Northernlurker at January 17, 2018 07:08 AM (nBr1j)

God bless!

Posted by: OldDominionMom at January 17, 2018 07:15 AM (GzDYP)

806 Best wishes Northernlurker.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 17, 2018 07:15 AM (Dp6qK)

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 17, 2018 07:16 AM (mpXpK)

808 Feel for you, Northernlurker.

Posted by: Kevin C at January 17, 2018 07:17 AM (1gqt1)

809 "Oh, no! Prayers up, now."

Same here.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice



Done.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2018 07:17 AM (dSqvH)

810 Downside? Cats staying inside with me until things warm up.


Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 17, 2018 07:05 AM (Pr4lq)

I don't blame you, Anna. I'd do the same if I were you.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 17, 2018 07:09 AM (kqsXK)

MPPPP, I guess living up there you are used to those kinds of conditions and know how to deal with them. Some of us are not. Back in the early 1990s I was scheduled to attend a 2 week class at a vendor site just outside of Boston (Bedford), and it was just this time of year. Only problem was, I had a couple of blown disks in my neck and ended up in the hospital. One of my co-workers, who as it happened had grown up in Pittsburgh, went in my place. (I made the trip the following September)

My co-worker told it was a good thing I didn't go, as while he was there the Boston are had a blizzard, including "whiteout" conditions. "You would not have survived it", my co-worker told me bluntly.

Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at January 17, 2018 07:18 AM (1q8rq)

811 Prayers for both of you, northernlurker.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at January 17, 2018 07:18 AM (oVWx5)

812 Posted by: Northernlurker at January 17, 2018 07:13 AM (nBr1j)

Faith!

Posted by: OldDominionMom at January 17, 2018 07:19 AM (GzDYP)

813 Nood

Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at January 17, 2018 07:22 AM (1q8rq)

814 793
OK, going to shower, dress, and eat like I'm going to work. Maybe my
bosses will decide to shut it down rather than deal with the day's road
conditions...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, this space for rent! Call 1-800-MORON-AD for details! at January 17, 2018 07:06 AM (lLeln)

Would you please give me an approximate time on the shower and leave the blinds open a bit? Thanks in advance.

Posted by: Hairy Reid at January 17, 2018 07:22 AM (b8HGm)

815 Praying for you and your wife, Northernlurker.

Posted by: I, Robert at January 17, 2018 07:24 AM (0CeRG)

816 I'll hang around here a bit if you want to talk, Northernlurker.

Posted by: Kevin C at January 17, 2018 07:24 AM (1gqt1)

817 MPPPP, I guess living up there you are used to those kinds of conditions and know how to deal with them. Some of us are not.


I was talking to the girl from North Carolina last night and she was talking about how they're about to get 2-4" of snow. Now, even up here in the snow belt 4" is legit snow, so OK there's going to be snow and it's going to mess up the morning commute.

But then I thought about the timing of the snow and said "but the plows will have that cleared in the afternoon and the commute home will be fine".

And she said "we don't have plows".

Right.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 17, 2018 07:25 AM (fuK7c)

818 Northernlurker

Prayers ascending. Your prayer wheel is all ahead Flank III. I can't give ya more power. I ain't got it. But may the Big Guy smile on you and esp. your wife.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 17, 2018 07:30 AM (hyuyC)

819 Testing, testing.

Posted by: Kevin C at January 17, 2018 07:43 AM (1gqt1)

820 Yo!

Posted by: KWDreaming at January 17, 2018 07:45 AM (PafTy)

821 Yo, Mitt Romney - I notice that Utah has not been flooded with Somalis and Senegalese immigrants. You should get on that right away. Bring in a couple of hundred thousand.

Then see how your Senate campaign goes.

Until then shaddup about PDT wantng to preserve America and our shared values.

Posted by: Michael Hazz at January 17, 2018 07:48 AM (9ivOl)

822 "Do you believe this claim? City owned internet services are less expensive than private sector internet providers." Try and figure out in the budget how much of this is actually subsidized by the taxpayers. It's buried in there and you could probably never figure it out. Administrative costs covered by taxpayers. Vehicle maintenance down at the bus barn. Cabling bought on a PR for Parks and Rec. These people are not stupid. They just want to take over.

Posted by: Larry Geiger at January 17, 2018 08:09 AM (nX644)

823 Posted by: cfo mom at January 16, 2018 11:43 PM (RfzVr)

457 I'm not Julie.

My name is Lisa.
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 16, 2018 11:43 PM (QLvwG)

Note on a Mc XL: I'm not Lisa.

Posted by: Fox2! at January 17, 2018 08:56 AM (brIR5)

824 I have city cable and internet, because I live in a new development, and Comcast hasn't run lines yet.

It is definitely cheaper than Comcast. But it also sucks ass. We're DYING to get Comcast in here, and I hate Comcast.

We call it "Aunt Judy's Cable Co." because the whole place seems like it's run by an old lady and her cat, writing illegible ciphers in a ledger.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at January 17, 2018 12:13 PM (nfgne)

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