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Live Video Coverage of the Alabama Special Election from Decision Desk HQ

We'll see.

Update: The New York Times has one of those fluttering needles up like they did on November 8, 2016. While Moore was coming back from being down, to having a 39% chance of winning, he just fell to 31%.

Not looking good.

Posted by: Ace at 08:00 PM




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1 First.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at December 12, 2017 07:57 PM (/o9Qk)

2 nd

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at December 12, 2017 07:57 PM (/o9Qk)

3 Ok here we go

Posted by: Jaimo at December 12, 2017 07:58 PM (eDc0r)

4 FBN headline: Too Early to Project a Winner.


Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 07:58 PM (Enq6K)

5 Go Moore!

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at December 12, 2017 07:58 PM (/o9Qk)

6 Polls have closed we project Doug Jones to be the winner, hence no need to count the votes.

Posted by: The Most Trusted Name in News at December 12, 2017 07:59 PM (+dsLj)

7 One minute after polls close: too early. LMAO.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at December 12, 2017 07:59 PM (/o9Qk)

8 Moore +6, my guess

where did the over/under end up?

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2017 07:59 PM (otAqJ)

9 With 0% of precincts reporting ...

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 07:59 PM (WbIyz)

10 Exit polls show that 5 billion people in Alabama believe Roy Moore is a pedophile.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at December 12, 2017 08:00 PM (/o9Qk)

11 I predict Moore by at least 10.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at December 12, 2017 08:00 PM (dVYSy)

12 Predictit comment board is pretty confident of a Moore win.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at December 12, 2017 08:00 PM (AZD0r)

13 Ladies and gentlemen, Jose Canseco, our new national poet laureate:

"What is going on with all these politicians molesting women I've been molested by several women and never complained"

"Well I mean I've been beaten by women taken advantage of by women and molested by women I never complain but it was kind of a turn on"

"I see the difference I guess because I was a good-looking guy and these politicians look like a bag of boogers"

"These women complaining against sexual misconduct are really just racist against ugly men"

"What do you call a pretty woman with an inbred looking politician? PAID."

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2017 08:00 PM (gm9yG)

14 Gah. Someone kill me now.

*but only in the metaphorical sense*

Posted by: T at December 12, 2017 08:01 PM (XlF/h)

15 I'm going to treat this night the same way I did the '16 Trump election and not worry about it. It's so far out of my hands...

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at December 12, 2017 08:01 PM (/o9Qk)

16 I'm watching the "total Write-Ins" category to see when Shelby's non-vote is counted.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2017 08:01 PM (8gDQu)

17 Awwww Brandon, fun to see and hear him. So happy for him and the DDHQ being a real gig, that I'll forgive him teaming with Buzzfeed.

Shiny happy graphics! Very slick.

Posted by: LizLem at December 12, 2017 08:01 PM (hvf9s)

18 Moore by 10, because fuck you bitches.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 08:01 PM (+dsLj)

19 Hey Ace,

No more instant winner BS taking over my iPad when I go to AOSHQ.

Bravo, many thanks

Posted by: HR at December 12, 2017 08:01 PM (G/8lp)

20 No plaid map?

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 08:01 PM (GsAUU)

21
Wait, how is shooting a sheriff "self-defense?"

Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 12, 2017 08:02 PM (LATmp)

22 1 First.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at December 12, 2017 07:57 PM (/o9Qk)


--and Sonobi'ed

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 08:02 PM (GsAUU)

23 CNN forecasts the Russians by four points.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 12, 2017 08:02 PM (oVJmc)

24 Live Video of the D. Desk?


I don't know if I wanna watch a fat guy try and talk Alabama Voters into letting him paint their Tits with Acrylics?

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 08:02 PM (RzgQJ)

25 Robocop has an angry suspect who says "I work for Doug Jones! Doug Jones!"

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 12, 2017 08:03 PM (rnAwa)

26 19 Hey Ace,

No more instant winner BS taking over my iPad when I go to AOSHQ.

Bravo, many thanks
Posted by: HR at December 12, 2017 08:01 PM (G/8lp)

I thought my iPad was sooo special.

Posted by: Ann at December 12, 2017 08:03 PM (jtHQy)

27 Say.... maybe if Moore wins he will cane chinless Mitch when he gets to DC.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 12, 2017 08:03 PM (XGGts)

28 I work for Doug Jones! Doug Jones!"

You're fired.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 12, 2017 08:04 PM (MINbv)

29 Lulz, recent tweet of voters telling exit pollsters to fuck off. Wonder how they're voting?

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 08:04 PM (+dsLj)

30 Let's get 'er done, Alabama.

Posted by: Peaches at December 12, 2017 08:04 PM (14URa)

31 I don't know if I wanna watch a fat guy try and talk Alabama Voters into letting him paint their Tits with Acrylics?

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 08:02 PM (RzgQJ)

I played it for a few seconds. Sounded like some British guy to me.

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 08:04 PM (Enq6K)

32 I hope this election doesn't keep Tucker from having another batshit guest interviewed.

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 08:04 PM (GsAUU)

33 When can we expect cvnt McConnell's resignation is all I want to know.

Posted by: Under Fire at December 12, 2017 08:04 PM (r9UYA)

34 CNN nearing orgasm.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 08:04 PM (g4lFK)

35 Wait, the moron went over to Buzz Feed? Money talks I guess.

Posted by: George at December 12, 2017 08:04 PM (Qm+Ky)

36 as per Fox News, with one percent of the votes in, it's Jones by a landslide. Trump should resign right now and Pence should nominate Hillary to be dog catcher.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at December 12, 2017 08:05 PM (ILitO)

37 Roy Moore raped my ficus!

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at December 12, 2017 08:05 PM (Z8FFX)

38 https://tinyurl.com/y77qt35q

Sec of State link.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at December 12, 2017 08:05 PM (xInes)

39 My predictions:

Winner announced by 8:30 EST.

Moore wins by 9.5.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2017 08:05 PM (hyuyC)

40 So Gumby was right about high Black turn out

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2017 08:05 PM (O2RFr)

41 We now go to Karl Rove and his whiteboard to tell Neal Cavuto how much he hates Judge Roy Moore

Posted by: paulnjax at December 12, 2017 08:05 PM (nbaBy)

42 >>> No plaid map?
Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 08:01 PM (GsAUU)

I'm seeing a plaid redhead, does that count?

Posted by: LizLem at December 12, 2017 08:05 PM (hvf9s)

43 29 Lulz, recent tweet of voters telling exit pollsters to fuck off. Wonder how they're voting?
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 08:04 PM (+dsLj)

--I've never been exit polled, but yeah, I'd say "Secret ballot, asshole."

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 08:05 PM (GsAUU)

44 10Exit polls show that 5 billion people in Alabama believe Roy Moore is a pedophile.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at December 12, 2017 08:00 PM (/o9Qk)


Its a fact: 96 million Alabamans have been assaulted by Roy Moore.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at December 12, 2017 08:05 PM (Mjus2)

45 First numbers in and it's bad: Moore is only leading by 77% to 22%.

:-(

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 08:05 PM (+dsLj)

46 Nate Silver's model shows both Hillary and Doug Jones at 97% chance of winning!

Posted by: ShainS at December 12, 2017 08:05 PM (BiLU+)

47 Amanda Carpenter has aged 15 years in the past 2 years. Wew!

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 08:05 PM (g4lFK)

48 If Jones wins, Trump must resign.
If Moore wins, Moore and Trump must resign.

Posted by: Kirstain Gillibrandy at December 12, 2017 08:05 PM (EzdLW)

49 >> So Gumby was right about high Black turn out


They do like them some chronic.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 08:06 PM (RzgQJ)

50 Who's the ginger?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2017 08:06 PM (/tuJf)

51 re 23: if Moore loses, he should claim the Russians interfered in the election.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at December 12, 2017 08:06 PM (ILitO)

52 Jones looks like some kind of stupid, idiotic jerk.

Here's hoping he loses and goes back to his favorite glory hole to spend his waning days doing what he does best.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 12, 2017 08:06 PM (EoRCO)

53 It's gonna be an early evening for Secretary Clinton!

Posted by: CNN at December 12, 2017 08:06 PM (gm9yG)

54 Waste of time. Moore will win. My guess: at least 5 or 6 points. But maybe even more.

Posted by: K-E at December 12, 2017 08:06 PM (5EgsZ)

55 No plaid map?

Wait, Alabama has gone Plaid? I told them not to try Ludicrous Speed

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:06 PM (39g3+)

56 45 First numbers in and it's bad: Moore is only leading by 77% to 22%.

:-(

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 08:05 PM (+dsLj)

===============

Heh. The LSM will spin it as a win since Moore won't have won by as much as he should have ...

Posted by: ShainS at December 12, 2017 08:06 PM (BiLU+)

57 I am seeing Jones 27 Moore 72...early night ?

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2017 08:06 PM (QC/4S)

58 TOP HUNDRED!!!
woohoo
so did an old white guy win?

Posted by: navycopjoe at December 12, 2017 08:06 PM (N6CVU)

59 Let's also not forget the ole Southern fuck you given to Yankee pollsters, aka exit polls.

Posted by: George at December 12, 2017 08:07 PM (Qm+Ky)

60 Totals are flipped on fox n drudge

Posted by: E.T. at December 12, 2017 08:07 PM (P1GJy)

61 "Probe Tainted?"

[Beavis and Butt-Head laughter]

See a doctor immediately.

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 08:07 PM (GsAUU)

62 Why is CNN comparing Moore's numbers to Romney's in 2012 and not Trump numbers in 2016?

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 08:07 PM (g4lFK)

63 I don't know if I wanna watch a fat guy try and talk Alabama Voters into letting him paint their Tits with Acrylics?
Posted by: garrett

Golfclap.

Posted by: mpfs, Show me on the Muppet where Matt Lauer touched you at December 12, 2017 08:07 PM (79p/O)

64 I played it for a few seconds. Sounded like some British guy to me.

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 08:04 PM (Enq6K)


Nevermind....not British but light in the loafers.

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 08:07 PM (Enq6K)

65 >>I am seeing Jones 27 Moore 72...early night ?

There are less than 200 votes in.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2017 08:07 PM (/tuJf)

66 *sigh*

Posted by: Jon Ossoff at December 12, 2017 08:07 PM (oVJmc)

67 Tucker has a RI Dem congressman on now. I expect Tucker to end up endorsing Hillary for dog catcher.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at December 12, 2017 08:08 PM (ILitO)

68 16 I'm watching the "total Write-Ins" category to see when Shelby's non-vote is counted.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2017 08:01 PM (8gDQu)

===============

LOL. Shelby writing-in Charles Barkley?

Posted by: ShainS at December 12, 2017 08:08 PM (BiLU+)

69 Why is CNN comparing Moore's numbers to Romney's in 2012 and not Trump numbers in 2016?

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 08:07 PM (g4lFK)


Forget it. They're rolling.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2017 08:08 PM (8gDQu)

70 THIS CHICK NEEDS TO STOP WITH THE VOCAL FRY!

Posted by: Jon Ossoff at December 12, 2017 08:08 PM (oVJmc)

71 Good lord the fear mongering from the black dude is surreal on CNN.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 08:08 PM (g4lFK)

72 60/40?

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2017 08:09 PM (5gaNQ)

73 "TOP HUNDRED!!!
woohoo
so did an old white guy win?
"
-Posted by: navycopjoe at December 12, 2017 08:06 PM (N6CVU)

Three scoops of "privilege".

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 12, 2017 08:09 PM (Ckg4U)

74 Fox: Jones: 55.8% Moore 43.3%

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 08:09 PM (Enq6K)

75 Wow. Brown suit with a blue tie. Is that Ace?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 08:09 PM (BoMuO)

76 LOL. Shelby writing-in Charles Barkley?

Posted by: ShainS at December 12, 2017 08:08 PM (BiLU+)


Shrillary.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2017 08:10 PM (8gDQu)

77 Is Gumby here? That sob owes me $90.

Posted by: Pokey at December 12, 2017 08:10 PM (UdKB7)

78 JUST IN TO TheBrodyFile :A source close to the Moore campaign tells me they feel very confident about victory. There is a sense inside the Roy Moore campaign that he's going to win. AlabamaSenateElection
David Brody (@TheBrodyFile) December 13, 2017

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 12, 2017 08:10 PM (y3aQB)

79
--and Sonobi'ed

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 08:02 PM (GsAUU)


Fortunately, I don't seem to have a problem with Sonobi. One of the three popup blockers I use seems to kill it.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at December 12, 2017 08:10 PM (/o9Qk)

80 Live Video Coverage of the Alabama Special Election from Decision Desk HQ

++++

As time goes on, that site is becoming more and more useless. A youtube video of people blathering?

All we need is one of those nifty little trackers, you know, like they use to have.

Oh well, at least the NYT is still good for something.

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/alabama-
senate-special-election-roy-moore-doug-jones

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 08:10 PM (FUu/Z)

81 Drudge :
Moore 77
Jones 22

Posted by: E.T. at December 12, 2017 08:10 PM (P1GJy)

82 NY Times has their usual live results, shows Jones either winning by 15 to Moore winning by 15.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 08:10 PM (+dsLj)

83 They're rolling.

==

you misspelled trolling

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2017 08:10 PM (QC/4S)

84 >> Is that Ace?


Is it a Bow Tie?

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 08:10 PM (RzgQJ)

85 74 What?

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2017 08:10 PM (5gaNQ)

86 THIS CHICK NEEDS TO STOP WITH THE VOCAL FRY!

Its either that or the brassy, nasal tone these days from female broadcasters. Very obnoxious.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:10 PM (39g3+)

87 73 one day I'm going to try to pay my visa off with my white privilege
hope my rating doesn't get hit too hard

Posted by: navycopjoe at December 12, 2017 08:10 PM (N6CVU)

88 For those who didn't know, Republican Jeff Flake took a photo of a $100 donation check to Jones, Moore's opponent, and posted it on his Twitter account.

"Country over party," Flake wrote.

God I hate that guy. Truly can't dislike him enough. Or Kristol. Or McCain. Or Egg McMuffin whatever the hell his name is. Any of them.

Posted by: troyriser at December 12, 2017 08:10 PM (raGQi)

89 The postman always rings twice is on TCM. Lana Turner, hot!!



Posted by: George at December 12, 2017 08:10 PM (Qm+Ky)

90 Lulz, recent tweet of voters telling exit pollsters to fuck off. Wonder how they're voting?
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 08:04 PM (+dsLj)

That's usually me.

Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2017 08:10 PM (yM/Yl)

91 skipping the video. Most annoying anchors ever.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 12, 2017 08:10 PM (oVJmc)

92 Alexis is cute.

Posted by: Navin Johnson at December 12, 2017 08:10 PM (sdi6R)

93 Bow tie and corduroy.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 08:11 PM (T4n7S)

94 85 74 What?
Posted by: CN at December 12, 2017 08:10 PM (5gaNQ)

That's what they're showing on Tucker's show. < 1 %

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 08:11 PM (Enq6K)

95 My white board says Jones wins.

Posted by: Karl the truth Rove at December 12, 2017 08:11 PM (ZuGkg)

96 >>> Wow. Brown suit with a blue tie. Is that Ace?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 08:09 PM (BoMuO)

It's our own Brandon, aka Conservative Art Critic! One of the old cobs. Aww good memories.

Posted by: LizLem at December 12, 2017 08:11 PM (hvf9s)

97 [From last thread:]

333 What would really make an impression is if he rode his horse right into the Senate chamber.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at December 12, 2017 07:44 PM (ZZdXT)

================

He should name a horse Incitatus and run him against McConnell in the next primary ...

Posted by: ShainS at December 12, 2017 08:11 PM (BiLU+)

98 Doom?

Or No Doom?

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 08:11 PM (yXU4O)

99 Why are we watching a gay New Zealander reporting on an Alabama election?

Posted by: Johnny at December 12, 2017 08:11 PM (kUotE)

100 Getting really tired of Matt Drudge. 0.2% of the vote in and he's having hot flashes.

Posted by: Peaches at December 12, 2017 08:11 PM (14URa)

101 Cicilene is an asshole.

He's totally dodging Tucker's questions.

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 08:11 PM (GsAUU)

102 I like the mock fake news submissions. Here's mine

Tonight was a pedo lash. A pedo lash against a rapidly changing country, in part.

Van Jones

Posted by: Grimaldi at December 12, 2017 08:12 PM (WEvuQ)

103 94: Some inner city sections?

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2017 08:12 PM (5gaNQ)

104 That video is awful right now, but if Moore wins it should be fun to watch the gay Englishman cry like Nancy Kerrigan.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2017 08:12 PM (gm9yG)

105 SO WHO WAS PHONE!!!

Posted by: Moron willowed from last thread at December 12, 2017 08:12 PM (WlG0e)

106 write in votes don't count. We all know that people in Alabama don't know how to write.

Tucker and the Dem congressman are almost yelling at each other. I think Tucker is winning, he's doing that Tucker"you're a fool" laugh.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at December 12, 2017 08:12 PM (ILitO)

107 >>Bow tie and corduroy.


Not Ace.

He'll be wearing a Bolero and Assless Chaps.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 08:12 PM (RzgQJ)

108 An exit poll of one out-of-state voter (namely me) shows Moore winning 100-0.

Based on this, I predict a close race ending in a recount and constitutional crisis.

Posted by: T at December 12, 2017 08:12 PM (XlF/h)

109 Why are we watching a gay New Zealander reporting on an Alabama election?

Diversity.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 12, 2017 08:12 PM (oVJmc)

110 Has Decision Desk HQ quit doing election results? I see none on their site and no other site with the usual DDHQ widget with results.

Posted by: mark1971 at December 12, 2017 08:12 PM (xPl2J)

111 BTW: any die hard Win XP users having trouble getting certain videos to play in FireFox (because they're HTML5 or 264 etc) can go here:

http://tinyurl.com/yb75vyxg

This is the best and simplest answer to the situation that I've found (other than buying a new computer or phone or tablet).

Easy links that work for the stuff you MIGHT need (you might not) and how to set config so that they work. Added bonus: links to testing sites so that you can see that everything works (or doesn't). Be scrupulous in spelling and applying all added config vars or it won't work.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 12, 2017 08:12 PM (M06hO)

112 you misspelled trolling

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2017 08:10 PM (QC/4S)


That would ahve been better. I'll remember it for next time.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2017 08:12 PM (8gDQu)

113
"Tonight, the voters of Alabama walked their women, barefoot, pregnant, and at gunpoint, to Selma's Edmund Pettis Bridge and ordered them to jump."

Barackridge Farm remembers!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 12, 2017 08:12 PM (pNxlR)

114 No plaid map?

Her she be, laddy.

http://bit.ly/2yjiiBG

Posted by: Decision Desk Scotland at December 12, 2017 08:12 PM (EzdLW)

115 It's our own Brandon, aka Conservative Art Critic! One of the old cobs. Aww good memories.

Posted by: LizLem at December 12, 2017 08:11 PM (hvf9s)

Except the part where he kinda called Trump supporters racists.

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 08:12 PM (Enq6K)

116 Is it a Bow Tie?

Messenger bag observed?

Posted by: Under Fire at December 12, 2017 08:13 PM (r9UYA)

117 I hope both guys lose bigly. But if one has to win, I hope it's not the baby-killing, horse fucker Democrat.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 12, 2017 08:13 PM (pUDQf)

118 f Moore wins it should be fun to watch the gay Englishman cry like Nancy Kerrigan.

"wwhyyyyy????"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:13 PM (39g3+)

119 Except the part where he kinda called Trump supporters racists.

It wasn't even kinda.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2017 08:13 PM (gm9yG)

120 Buzzfeed news? Is that all we got for updates? Dirty.

Posted by: MSTisdale at December 12, 2017 08:13 PM (xHVD5)

121 I'm having a sense that I might have to take a dump.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 12, 2017 08:13 PM (4ErVI)

122 He'll be wearing a Bolero and Assless Chaps.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 08:12 PM (RzgQJ)


All.chaps.are.assless.

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 08:14 PM (Enq6K)

123 Fuck Liberty Mutual and their flat tire ad. Are all boys pussies now and don't know how to change a tire without mommy's help.



That ad so insulting on so many fronts. Pussy boys.

Posted by: George at December 12, 2017 08:14 PM (Qm+Ky)

124 Per exits, white voters with college degrees went for Moore by 59-37. But Romney won that group by 59 POINTS in 2012. Moore also wins 78-20 among white voters WITHOUT college degrees. That's a much larger group (36% of total)
David Martosko (@dmartosko) December 13, 2017

30% African-American turnout in Alabama is good for Doug Jones but may not be enough. AlabamaSenateElection

David Brody (@TheBrodyFile) December 13, 2017

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 12, 2017 08:14 PM (y3aQB)

125 I have it from a super secret, double dog agent that the fix is in. I also have the floppy disk with the files.

Posted by: Bill O'Reilly at December 12, 2017 08:14 PM (9razJ)

126 I did an exit poll of Tami and she yelled "f--- off clown" then kicked me in the knee. From that I extrapolate a Moore win.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:14 PM (39g3+)

127 >>All.chaps.are.assless.


Well, the white ones usually are.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 08:14 PM (RzgQJ)

128 and don't forget that Charles Barkley might have swung 12 or 15 votes.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at December 12, 2017 08:14 PM (ILitO)

129 The Dems are counting absentee ballots first and someone was just reporting with incredibly low energy from Jones's HQ. I think the Dems are giving up.

Posted by: sunny-dee at December 12, 2017 08:15 PM (QAOZh)

130 119 Except the part where he kinda called Trump supporters racists.

It wasn't even kinda.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2017 08:13 PM (gm9yG)

No, it really wasn't, was it?

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 08:15 PM (Enq6K)

131 How many out of state lawyers do you think are in Alabama tonight? I will bet each and every polling place has some creepy twink pestering voters.

Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at December 12, 2017 08:15 PM (2X7pN)

132
Ace: 100
Drudge: 0

Posted by: H. Solo at December 12, 2017 08:15 PM (EzdLW)

133 She is pretty cute. Brave move wearing your flannel PJs on camera.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 08:15 PM (BoMuO)

134 109 *claps* Yaaaay!

Posted by: Johnny at December 12, 2017 08:15 PM (kUotE)

135 Why are we watching a gay New Zealander reporting on an Alabama election?

You have a problem with foreigners mansplaining you politics? What's wrong with you?

Posted by: Trevor Noah and John Oliver at December 12, 2017 08:15 PM (hvf9s)

136 types ...

deletes ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 12, 2017 08:15 PM (fiGNd)

137 >>All.chaps.are.assless.


All of Ace's Chaps are.

That's why he wears a Messenger Bag.

He's a coy little Ewok.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 08:15 PM (RzgQJ)

138 132: That's for sure

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2017 08:15 PM (5gaNQ)

139 Although it won't stop the daily anti-Trump drumbeat by the Fake News Media; I hope that Moore stomps Jones' butt into a squishy little mud hole. Just to show them how much we hate the left/liberals/FNM. BIRM

Will we see tears and lamentations of their women?

Posted by: jakee308 at December 12, 2017 08:15 PM (M06hO)

140 exit polls in Baltimore show Moore losing in a landslide.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at December 12, 2017 08:15 PM (ILitO)

141 Any knucklehead can swing 2 or 3 votes.

Posted by: Sir Charles Barkley at December 12, 2017 08:15 PM (EzdLW)

142 97 LizLem

CAC's telescope threads were great. His election analysis was interesting, as not the usual narrative. Then he got married, had a kid, and he -- shifted.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2017 08:15 PM (hyuyC)

143 How embarrassing a good ole truck dispatcher on you tube with a fag from Australia.



He must REALLY need the money

Posted by: George at December 12, 2017 08:16 PM (Qm+Ky)

144 123 That ad so insulting on so many fronts. Pussy boys.

whoa!!! come on now, be nice to the Air Force

Posted by: navycopjoe at December 12, 2017 08:16 PM (N6CVU)

145 Why anyone who is following the AL race this evening would actually watch TV and not just get your results from the Award Winning* AceofSpades comments section, is just stupid.




Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 12, 2017 08:16 PM (UsCnO)

146 126 I did an exit poll of Tami and she yelled "f--- off clown" then kicked me in the knee. From that I extrapolate a Moore win.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:14 PM (39g3+)

That was you!?

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 08:16 PM (Enq6K)

147 From Chad Pergram's (FOX) Twitter:

Wade Perry, campaign manager for Jones, tells me he thinks it's going to be a long night. "It's up in the air...we ran a helluva campaign."

Also saw a tweet that Moore's campaign was "confident."

It's not nothing!

Posted by: IrishEi at December 12, 2017 08:16 PM (HiDrR)

148
Y'know that at this moment Kristol Meth and Yeggs McMuffin are comfortably ensconced together in a hot tub and making goo-goo eyes at each other.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 12, 2017 08:16 PM (pNxlR)

149 124
Per exits, white voters with college degrees went for Moore by 59-37.
But Romney won that group by 59 POINTS in 2012. Moore also wins 78-20
among white voters WITHOUT college degrees. That's a much larger group
(36% of total)

David Martosko (@dmartosko) December 13, 2017



30% African-American turnout in Alabama is good for Doug Jones but may not be enough. AlabamaSenateElection



David Brody (@TheBrodyFile) December 13, 2017

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 12, 2017 08:14 PM (y3aQB)

=============
If that's true, game over for Jones, esp. considering how slanted exit polls are.

Posted by: Jackal at December 12, 2017 08:16 PM (o3+fQ)

150 Oh dear lord, Drudge is calling the numbers with 0.5% of the vote in?

pathetic.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 12, 2017 08:16 PM (+Dllb)

151 I hope Moore wins and the Dems have wasted another $5 million on a southern election. Who was that last pajama boy they dumped $4 million into? Lost Bigly.

Posted by: LASue at December 12, 2017 08:16 PM (Mjus2)

152 30% African-American turnout in Alabama is good for Doug Jones but may not be enough.
****************

There is absolutely no fucking way 30% turned out to vote in a special election. Fuck that ridiculous noise.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 08:16 PM (+dsLj)

153 Then he got married, had a kid, and he -- shifted.

Which is bizarre because most people get more conservative when they have kids. I think it's why libs love abortion so much.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2017 08:17 PM (gm9yG)

154 Brave move wearing your flannel PJs on camera.

Are they footies with that flap on the back? I love those.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:17 PM (39g3+)

155 Tucker talking about Ryebread Lizard.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at December 12, 2017 08:17 PM (ILitO)

156 Are there in fact any indisputably solid conservative Republicans on the national stage who are also Mormon?

Posted by: doomed at December 12, 2017 08:17 PM (UW4Uc)

157 In other election news, Don Willett won approval from the Senate 50-48 and will be a 5th circuit court judge.

Thank you Hairy Reed.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2017 08:17 PM (/tuJf)

158 Wasn't 60 million that went against Roy Moore in this election?

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 08:17 PM (g4lFK)

159 Drudge is trolling. If I want truth I come here.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 12, 2017 08:17 PM (pUDQf)

160 Mobile is all in for the baby killer.

Posted by: Under Fire at December 12, 2017 08:17 PM (r9UYA)

161 119 Except the part where he kinda called Trump supporters racists.

It wasn't even kinda.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2017 08:13 PM (gm9yG)

--Possible wifely influence.

My wife is a naturalized Mexican and constantly complains about Trump.

My compromise? I have never told her I voted for Trump. (I did early voting during work hours.)

I'll argue some points with her, but the vote is on the QT.

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 08:17 PM (GsAUU)

162 Shouldn't that be :

Smegs McMuffin (Utah)

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 08:17 PM (RzgQJ)

163 Are the Young Turks crying yet?

Posted by: H. Solo at December 12, 2017 08:18 PM (EzdLW)

164 123 Fuck Liberty Mutual and their flat tire ad. Are all boys pussies now and don't know how to change a tire without mommy's help.

That ad so insulting on so many fronts. Pussy boys.
Posted by: George at December 12, 2017 08:14 PM (Qm+Ky)
-------
I hate the commercial where the retard wrecks her new car and is pissed the insurance company doesn't buy her a whole new car. I guess no one ever explained risk to her.

Posted by: Weasel at December 12, 2017 08:18 PM (Sfs6o)

165 150
Oh dear lord, Drudge is calling the numbers with 0.5% of the vote in?

pathetic.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 12, 2017 08:16 PM (+Dllb)
Alabama Secy of State isn't even reporting anything yet. But, Drudge, yup, he's all over the NBC News inside info.

Posted by: Peaches at December 12, 2017 08:18 PM (14URa)

166 145
Why anyone who is following the AL race this evening would actually
watch TV and not just get your results from the Award Winning*
AceofSpades comments section, is just stupid.






Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 12, 2017 08:16 PM (UsCnO)

The fag on the show with him would be a good reason not to watch, Annoying A++

Posted by: George at December 12, 2017 08:18 PM (Qm+Ky)

167 'All.chaps.are.assless.'



'specially the assless ones.

Posted by: Pokey at December 12, 2017 08:18 PM (UdKB7)

168 DIET COKE FTW!!

Posted by: Professor Chaos Gumdrop Gorilla at December 12, 2017 08:18 PM (9razJ)

169 153 Ian S

I speculate that his wife, with 100% of the male incentivizing power in marriage, is much more liberal than CAC.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2017 08:18 PM (hyuyC)

170 I did an exit poll of Tami and she yelled "f--- off clown" then kicked me in the knee. From that I extrapolate a Moore win.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:14 PM (39g3+)

That's what you get for trying to poll people after spraying them with your fake flower.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 08:18 PM (FTXAT)

171 Jones up 12 with banjo-pickin' ass-rapin' gay hillbillies.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 12, 2017 08:19 PM (oVJmc)

172 I know nothing about Alabama - except there is super nice shopping near Birmingham - in the 'burbs, but their website has started updating:

http://bit.ly/2C7UwLV

Posted by: Ann at December 12, 2017 08:19 PM (jtHQy)

173 There's a group here called Highway 31, which is basically a front for moveon, the DNC and all the liberal fish wraps here (Al.com). They sank 4 million into that evil fucker's campaign.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 12, 2017 08:19 PM (pUDQf)

174 My Fake News Submission :

"The White Public voting for Moore is proof that the only reason White Christians are against abortion is because is they need us to have children so they can Rape Them."

--Joy Reid

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 08:19 PM (yXU4O)

175 Oh dear lord, Drudge is calling the numbers with 0.5% of the vote in?

pathetic.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 12, 2017 08:16 PM (+Dllb)


What's the problem? He's updating the numbers as they come in, like he should be doing.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2017 08:19 PM (8gDQu)

176 Cavuto: This will ultimately fall on what people think of Roy Moore.

The John Madden school of broadcasting.

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 08:19 PM (Enq6K)

177 Sec of State shows Moore at 71%

Posted by: CSMBigBird at December 12, 2017 08:20 PM (xInes)

178 That girl is cute but she looks like someone's sister who wandered onto the set, not an analyst.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:20 PM (39g3+)

179
"The White Public voting for Moore is proof that the only reason White Christians are against abortion is because is they need us to have children so they can Rape Them."

--Joy Reid


Oh, man, waaaaaaay to intelligent to be her.

Go dumber, dumber!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 12, 2017 08:20 PM (pNxlR)

180 150 Oh dear lord, Drudge is calling the numbers with 0.5% of the vote in?

pathetic.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 12, 2017 08:16 PM (+Dllb)

++++

He's not calling it, he's just giving the current count. Looks like the same numbers as the NYT has, so maybe he's using their tracker.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 08:20 PM (pvjTE)

181 Okay, that's pretty funny that blacks are making a stand for an underage white chick potentially maybe possibly being sexually abused as a young teen.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 08:20 PM (T4n7S)

182 http://bit.ly/2BhrfRa

Moore won Late deciders BIGLY

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 12, 2017 08:20 PM (y3aQB)

183 remember hanging chads ? good times ....

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2017 08:21 PM (QC/4S)

184 >>Cavuto: This will ultimately fall on what people think of Roy Moore.


Heard a Reporter on the Radio today uncan this one"
"Ultimately, it will come sown to whoever gets the most Votes. Back to you, Susan."

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 08:21 PM (RzgQJ)

185 180: He's using ABC

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2017 08:21 PM (5gaNQ)

186 CAC's telescope threads were great. His election analysis was interesting, as not the usual narrative. Then he got married, had a kid, and he -- shifted.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2017 08:15 PM (hyuyC)


I've followed the dude on a couple picks and did the math. He's just wrong.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 12, 2017 08:21 PM (fiGNd)

187 >>remember hanging chads?


That guy is Banned from Mall Property!


Posted by: Paul Blart at December 12, 2017 08:21 PM (RzgQJ)

188 Sec of State shows Moore at 71%

You can't trust him!

You need the authority of a Jim Acosta to tell you what this all means!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 12, 2017 08:21 PM (oVJmc)

189 Both my boys knew how to change a tire before they could drive. I was a mean dad.

Posted by: freaked at December 12, 2017 08:22 PM (UdKB7)

190 So WeaselWoman was sick the other day and I went to the store to pick up her prescription. While I was there I also got her a bag of skittles to cheer her up, figuring I'd get to eat most of them myself. Well, apparently she hid the bag!

Posted by: Weasel at December 12, 2017 08:22 PM (Sfs6o)

191
He's not calling it, he's just giving the
current count. Looks like the same numbers as the NYT has, so maybe he's
using their tracker.



Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 08:20 PM (pvjTE)

Yes, his site goes to The Slime

Posted by: George at December 12, 2017 08:22 PM (Qm+Ky)

192 Moore's win will ignite the second stage of the MAGA revolution.

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 08:22 PM (LnOh3)

193 >>> Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 08:12 PM (Enq6K)

I know, I know. But we won, HCWNBPOTUS, it's the holidays, and I'm a nonconfrontational peacemaker. So I'm in a forgiving/forgetting mood.

Posted by: LizLem at December 12, 2017 08:22 PM (hvf9s)

194 Where would these so called reporters get valid info besides the Secretary of State?

Posted by: CSMBigBird at December 12, 2017 08:22 PM (xInes)

195 That's what you get for trying to poll people after spraying them with your fake flower.

I was told in no uncertain terms that it would be considered zany.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:22 PM (39g3+)

196 I really hope Moore pulls it out, but what a mess.

Had Dumbshit McConnell not involved himself, my guess is Moore's candidacy never would have gotten off the ground.

Alabama Republican voters wanted the biggest middle finger they could find.

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 08:23 PM (uc45P)

197 Where would these so called reporters get valid info besides the Secretary of State?

Leaks from the Mueller team.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 12, 2017 08:23 PM (oVJmc)

198 Michael Tae Kwan Do on Tucker...not making a lot of sense.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 08:23 PM (RzgQJ)

199 We are supposed to believe that the African American turnout for a special election between two white guys was higher than when Obama ran?

Posted by: conservativechick at December 12, 2017 08:23 PM (MAK6g)

200 They're counting Mobile and Montgomery so it could be a while before Moore closes the gap.

Our cities are fascist states.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 08:23 PM (+dsLj)

201
If Moore wins there will be immediate calls for him to step down and if he refuses immediate calls for an ethics investigation. From the "principled" Republicans

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2017 08:23 PM (SiINZ)

202 Glad CNN clarified the Black Belt was based on the color of the rich dark top soil.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 08:23 PM (g4lFK)

203 Why are they assuming black men would vote against a guy who was accused of creeping on 17yo girls?

Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2017 08:23 PM (yM/Yl)

204

Shouldn't we put a hold on the mutual fellatio for a while?

Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 12, 2017 08:23 PM (LATmp)

205 Tonight, Donald Trump's rapey middle finger extended its rude self to all real Americans, in the form of the rape state of Alabama."

Posted by: MSNBC, later tonight, choking on sobs at December 12, 2017 08:23 PM (UW4Uc)

206 194 Where would these so called reporters get valid info besides the Secretary of State?
Posted by: CSMBigBird at December 12, 2017 08:22 PM (xInes)

--They want to show the world how super smart their black box methodology is in predictive power.

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 08:24 PM (GsAUU)

207 194
Where would these so called reporters get valid info besides the Secretary of State?

Posted by: CSMBigBird at December 12, 2017 08:22 PM (xInes)

County Board of Elections. They report to the state and there is a time lag between when counted and when reported to the state.

Posted by: George at December 12, 2017 08:24 PM (Qm+Ky)

208 My Shadenboner is tingling. Either Moore is going to win or I need to refill my Valtrex.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 08:24 PM (BoMuO)

209 'I hate the commercial where the retard wrecks her new car and is pissed the insurance company doesn't buy her a whole new car.'

You buy a new car and crash it into a tree. Maybe you shouldn't have a new car.

Posted by: freaked at December 12, 2017 08:24 PM (UdKB7)

210 I hate the commercial where the retard wrecks her new car and is pissed the insurance company doesn't buy her a whole new car. I guess no one ever explained risk to her.

Posted by: Weasel at December 12, 2017 08:18 PM (Sfs6o)

---

The Allstate one where the woman victoriously proclaims women are better drivers than men when she gets some money refunded after not wrecking her car in the last three months.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 08:24 PM (T4n7S)

211 I think black people aren't terribly fond of the judge. Not only are some of them probably family of folks that have showed up in his court at some point but he does give off a really odd vibe.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:24 PM (39g3+)

212 ...

Posted by: Spypeach at December 12, 2017 08:24 PM (myc22)

213 196
I really hope Moore pulls it out, but what a mess.



Had Dumbshit McConnell not involved himself, my guess is Moore's candidacy never would have gotten off the ground.



Alabama Republican voters wanted the biggest middle finger they could find.

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 08:23 PM (uc45P)

=======================
Bingo. Had he stayed out, Strange might have backed in to the runoff.

Posted by: Jackal at December 12, 2017 08:24 PM (o3+fQ)

214 I'll argue some points with her, but the vote is on the QT.
Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 08:17 PM (GsAUU)

Man up. My wife asks me how she should vote.

Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at December 12, 2017 08:25 PM (wtvvX)

215 Doesn't the Secretary of State have to validate them?

Posted by: CSMBigBird at December 12, 2017 08:25 PM (xInes)

216 I can swing votes like I swing a golf club.

Turrible. Just turrible.

Posted by: Charles Barkley at December 12, 2017 08:25 PM (WlG0e)

217 202
Glad CNN clarified the Black Belt was based on the color of the rich dark top soil.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 08:23 PM (g4lFK)

Tell me that's a joke? They don't expect anyone to believe that horse shit do they?

Posted by: George at December 12, 2017 08:25 PM (Qm+Ky)

218 I hope Moore wins and the Dems have wasted another $5 million on a southern election.

In the end I'm sure it will be north of $10M. Fake PAC Highway 31 burned a million dollars in just the last 36 hours.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 08:25 PM (WbIyz)

219 The Allstate one where the woman victoriously proclaims women are better drivers than men when she gets some money refunded after not wrecking her car in the last three months.

Three whole months, wow. What a great driver.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:26 PM (39g3+)

220 Tucker stream: https://youtu.be/5iIr-Xml3K4

Posted by: Johnny at December 12, 2017 08:26 PM (kUotE)

221 Are there in fact any indisputably solid conservative Republicans on the national stage who are also Mormon? Posted by: doomed at December 12, 2017 08:17 PM (UW4Uc)

Mia Love? I'm still trying to determine if some of her GOPe pivots were purely tactical, since she has a lot of libs/GOPe in her district. At her core she still bleeds red on most of the stuff I care about.

Posted by: LizLem at December 12, 2017 08:26 PM (hvf9s)

222 Drudge can go horsefuck.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 12, 2017 08:26 PM (1SRec)

223 the Sec State page is unofficial, says each county is the accurate count.

you go to the county page, and exactly one (1) county in the entire state has voting into on line.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 12, 2017 08:26 PM (ibLBN)

224 The good news for all Alabamans is that the incessant ads will cease.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2017 08:26 PM (hyuyC)

225 The Black Belt is a region of the U.S. state of Alabama. The term originally referred to the region's rich, black topsoil, much of it in the soil order Vertisols. The term took on an additional meaning in the 19th century, when the region was developed for cotton plantation agriculture, in which the workers were African- American slaves. After the American Civil War, many freedmen stayed in the area as sharecroppers and tenant farmers, continuing to comprise a majority of the population. The sociological definition of the "Black Belt," as related to this race, refers to a much larger region of the Southern United States, stretching from Maryland to Texas but centered on the Black Belt of uplands areas of Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana. You may now continue.

Posted by: @SOEarpiece at December 12, 2017 08:26 PM (WbIyz)

226 I think black people aren't terribly fond of the judge. Not only are some of them probably family of folks that have showed up in his court at some point but he does give off a really odd vibe.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

++++++++++

Its not just black people that get that vibe from him.

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 08:26 PM (uc45P)

227 Overall, Moore is up with white college grads 59-37%. JONES wanted this gap closer

Steve Kornacki (@SteveKornacki) December 13, 2017

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 12, 2017 08:26 PM (y3aQB)

228 >>I'll argue some points with her



Why? You are only going to lose.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 08:26 PM (RzgQJ)

229 200
They're counting Mobile and Montgomery so it could be a while before Moore closes the gap.



Our cities are fascist states.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 08:23 PM (+dsLj)
Black votes. Moore can take a hit there, his money counties will be the last to report, rural NW AL.

Posted by: George at December 12, 2017 08:26 PM (Qm+Ky)

230 Cat Ass Trophy, that's CAC, aka Brandon.

Posted by: Emmie -- please, no public display of insanity at December 12, 2017 08:27 PM (/A+Cl)

231 Shit that Omaha Steaks gift box looks good.

Has anyone ever had their stuff?

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 08:27 PM (GsAUU)

232 201
If Moore wins there will be immediate calls for him to step down and if he refuses immediate calls for an ethics investigation. From the "principled" Republicans

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2017 08:23 PM (SiINZ)

++++

McConnell already said Moore is going to the Ethics Committee. What kind of process they are going to go through is the question.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 08:27 PM (FUu/Z)

233 156 Are there in fact any indisputably solid conservative Republicans on the national stage who are also Mormon?

Yes, Mike Lee. The Establishment GOP hates him, yessss, they does precious.

Posted by: Vanceone at December 12, 2017 08:27 PM (HDMVB)

234 Are there in fact any indisputably solid conservative Republicans on the national stage who are also Mormon? Posted by: doomed at December 12, 2017 08:17 PM (UW4Uc)

Mia Love? I'm still trying to determine if some of her GOPe pivots were purely tactical, since she has a lot of libs/GOPe in her district. At her core she still bleeds red on most of the stuff I care about.
Posted by: LizLem

__________

Last I heard, she never endorsed Trump for President even after getting the nomination.

That's my acid test

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 08:27 PM (uc45P)

235 Its not just black people that get that vibe from him.



Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 08:26 PM (uc45P)

I think he is a creepy MFer, BUT he's our creepy MFer

Posted by: George at December 12, 2017 08:27 PM (Qm+Ky)

236 Mia Love? I'm still trying to determine if some of her GOPe pivots were
purely tactical, since she has a lot of libs/GOPe in her district.
---
first thing she did in DC was vote to re-elect Boner for Speaker.


Posted by: redc1c4 at December 12, 2017 08:28 PM (ibLBN)

237 This time next year 8% GDP growth, 62 Repubs in the Senate, Hillary behind bars, etc.

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 08:28 PM (LnOh3)

238 Hillary Wins Alabama, Expected to be Inserted as President in January.

Posted by: This is... Apple Banana News at December 12, 2017 08:28 PM (H8S+R)

239 >>>Heard a Reporter on the Radio today uncan this one"

"Ultimately, it will come sown to whoever gets the most Votes. Back to you, Susan."

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 08:21 PM (RzgQJ)<<<

Well, see, the winner will be the one who gets the most votes.
Or Brett Favre.



Brett Favre.

Posted by: John Madden, political pundit at December 12, 2017 08:28 PM (WlG0e)

240 McConnell already said Moore is going to the Ethics Committee.

---

In violation of the "not being sufficiently like us" clause.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 08:28 PM (T4n7S)

241 The window on the NYT tracker shifted to 15/16 for Moore.

Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2017 08:28 PM (yM/Yl)

242 Overall, Moore is up with white college grads 59-37%. JONES wanted this gap closer

Steve Kornacki (@SteveKornacki) December 13, 2017
Posted by: MISH McConnell

++++++++++

Good to hear, but I wouldn't read much into Exit polling.

People aren't eager to tell someone in person they voted for Roy Moore.

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 08:28 PM (uc45P)

243 Shouldn't we put a hold on the mutual fellatio for a while?

Polls are closed so nothing can jinx this.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 08:28 PM (WbIyz)

244 67 to 33 in favor of Jones with 1% in

supposedly heavy turnout in rural areas ... that might favor Moore? and come in later?

not worth trying to figure it out ... relax and wait an hour I guess.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2017 08:28 PM (otAqJ)

245 Man up. My wife asks me how she should vote.
Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at December 12, 2017 08:25 PM (wtvvX)

--Ha ha, I'm already in the doghouse.

Besides, she didn't vote. That's a net 1 from my household. I don't want to "motivate" her to vote the wrong way next time until I'm sure I've brought her into the fold.

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 08:28 PM (GsAUU)

246 Some crazed lunatic woman ran into my car recently and put a dent in the rear passenger door which cost $3,500 to fix. Had to get a whole new door.

Posted by: Weasel at December 12, 2017 08:28 PM (Sfs6o)

247 Its not just black people that get that vibe from him.

No but I think it gives them a more concerned feeling than just being sort of skeeved. I wouldn't be worried he's likely to rule against me then make a speech on morality like I would as a black guy.

Maybe that's unfair, I just don't like the guy much despite his strongly overt Christian posing. He reminds me of the people that tried to excommunicate me from my church for playing Fantasy Hero.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:29 PM (39g3+)

248 AL Sec State website is only reporting a few hundred votes.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 12, 2017 08:29 PM (oVJmc)

249 Shouldn't we put a hold on the mutual fellatio for a while?


This is about us, isn't it?

Posted by: Bill Kristol and Eggs McMullin at December 12, 2017 08:29 PM (EzdLW)

250 Think I'll go take a nice warm, long bath....catch ya later.

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 08:29 PM (Enq6K)

251 I don't like Omaha steaks stuff.

Posted by: linduh at December 12, 2017 08:29 PM (kufk0)

252 Shit that Omaha Steaks gift box looks good.

Has anyone ever had their stuff?

Yes. Totally underwhelming.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 12, 2017 08:29 PM (ty7RM)

253 Stomped. Reposting.

Tucker stream:

https://youtu.be/5iIr-Xml3K4

Posted by: Johnny at December 12, 2017 08:29 PM (kUotE)

254 My parents got me Omaha Steaks gift box once. It was good stuff.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at December 12, 2017 08:29 PM (oAY8z)

255
...

...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 12, 2017 08:29 PM (pNxlR)

256 demoRats are testing. If Jones wins. Every Republican running will be a sexual assaulter.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at December 12, 2017 08:29 PM (xInes)

257 "Shit that Omaha Steaks gift box looks good.
Has anyone ever had their stuff?
"
-Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 08:27 PM (GsAUU)

They are good, but you have to buy into a Cult. They are a hard-sales driven sign-up industry.

Good product, horrible sales technique.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 12, 2017 08:29 PM (Ckg4U)

258 Heard a Reporter on the Radio today uncan this one"

"Ultimately, it will come sown to whoever gets the most Votes. Back to you, Susan."

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 08:21 PM (RzgQJ)



Was that ESPN's softball girl? Sounds like her level of brilliance.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2017 08:29 PM (SiINZ)

259 222

Hello, sailor.

Posted by: Enumclaw pony pimp and discreet bowel perforation service at December 12, 2017 08:29 PM (UW4Uc)

260 My wife wrecked the minivan. With State Farm, she went to the collision place dropped off the wrecked van, enterprise was waiting there with her rental minivan. When her van is fixed, she leaves the rental at the repair place and it is taken care of. This is with State Farm, and the accident was her fault.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 08:29 PM (BoMuO)

261 McConnell already said Moore is going to the Ethics Committee.

Moore should tell that guy he can EABOD and challenge him to pistols at dawn.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 12, 2017 08:30 PM (XGGts)

262 Well the NYT is going with Jones at 0.1%.

Way too close for anyone to call according to them and it appears to be an automatic recall if the numbers stay that tight.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 12, 2017 08:30 PM (+Dllb)

263 Shit that Omaha Steaks gift box looks good.

Look closely. They're 4 ounce steaks, you can practically cover them with a spoon.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:30 PM (39g3+)

264 Has anyone ever had their stuff?
Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 08:27 PM
~~~~~

They used to be great. However, I got a box last Christmas as a gift, and I was pretty disappointed in the sirloins and fillets. Maybe I just got a bad batch. If I get another gift from there this year, I'll be in a better position to judge.

Posted by: IrishEi at December 12, 2017 08:30 PM (HiDrR)

265 >>Shouldn't we put a hold on the mutual fellatio for a while?

>>Polls are closed so nothing can jinx this.

I'm still good with holding off on the mutual fellatio part.

I don't own any clogs.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2017 08:30 PM (/tuJf)

266 Has anyone ever had their stuff?

==


yes, unfortunately I have very high steak standards...

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2017 08:30 PM (QC/4S)

267 231 Shit that Omaha Steaks gift box looks good.

Has anyone ever had their stuff?

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 08:27 PM (GsAUU)

They have good stuff. They'll call you forever to get you to buy more. I know this because they're headquartered in my city and I know people who worked in the call sales area.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 12, 2017 08:30 PM (4ErVI)

268 Anon Y. Mous: "McConnell already said Moore is going to the Ethics Committee. What kind of process they are going to go through is the question."

He will be given a perfectly fair trial and then promptly shot.

Posted by: Comrade McConnell at December 12, 2017 08:30 PM (H8S+R)

269 Some crazed lunatic woman ran into my car recently

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dash cam video on youtube just scares the hell out of me.

Posted by: Johnny Twelves Evon at December 12, 2017 08:30 PM (KdDCu)

270 Mia Love? Now there's a solid conservative for you.
Boehner's squeeze.

Posted by: Under Fire at December 12, 2017 08:30 PM (r9UYA)

271 I wasn't too impressed with Omaha Steaks, but we're also blessed with having actual butchers' shops around us.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 08:30 PM (T4n7S)

272 Hell... they showed me "the good stuff" from Omaha Steaks.

Maybe a 'bait-and-switch' technique?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 12, 2017 08:30 PM (Ckg4U)

273 231
Shit that Omaha Steaks gift box looks good.



Has anyone ever had their stuff?

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 08:27 PM (GsAUU)

Huge rip off. Go to Costco, better meat, cheaper. Most of the crap you get with Omaha, sirloins and hamburger with a couple of 6 OZ filets thrown in. Lots of potatoes and apple pies. The pies are not edible. I have some in freezer that are two years old


Posted by: George at December 12, 2017 08:30 PM (Qm+Ky)

274 The GOPe have tossed away candidates before. Two come to mind. Norm Coleman and B1 Bob Dohrnan.

Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at December 12, 2017 08:31 PM (2X7pN)

275 Maybe I just got a bad batch.

==

guess again

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2017 08:31 PM (QC/4S)

276 I think he is a creepy MFer, BUT he's our creepy MFer
Posted by: George

+++++++

Agreed, I'll put my flame suit on and say over the top SoCon is not my cup of tea.

But we need the vote for judges and because of McCain, Flake, Corker and a few other traitors.

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 08:31 PM (uc45P)

277 256 demoRats are testing. If Jones wins. Every Republican running will be a sexual assaulter.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at December 12, 2017 08:29 PM (xInes)

This is what concerns me. If Moore doesn't win, the lying whore Gloria Allred and her ilk will be further emboldened. Not that they wouldn't do it anyway, but they'll only get worse.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 12, 2017 08:31 PM (NWiLs)

278 Maybe a 'bait-and-switch' technique?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 12, 2017 08:30 PM (Ckg4U)

BINGO

Posted by: George at December 12, 2017 08:31 PM (Qm+Ky)

279 >>I have it from a super secret, double dog agent that the fix is in. I also have the floppy disk with the files.

Posted by: Bill O'Reilly

You misspelled "dick".

Posted by: Bob Dole at December 12, 2017 08:31 PM (2cuLk)

280 Nope, engage in mutual fellatio all you want; I declare it constitutional!

Posted by: Anthony Kennedy at December 12, 2017 08:31 PM (H5knJ)

281 McConnell already said Moore is going to the Ethics Committee"

For someone who was not in the Senate?

Funny, that.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 12, 2017 08:32 PM (MINbv)

282 Omaha Steaks overrated. Costco Top Sirloin is better.

Posted by: conservativechick at December 12, 2017 08:32 PM (MAK6g)

283 "Limestone is shifting"

I was promised there would be no geology.

Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2017 08:32 PM (sdi6R)

284 277: Precisely. That's why I didn't understand Rush's insistence that the progs wanted Moore to win.

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2017 08:32 PM (5gaNQ)

285 Moore is going to the ethics committee because he said he wont vote for Turtle as the majority leader. Turtle is acting like a Democrat.

Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2017 08:32 PM (yM/Yl)

286 They have good stuff. They'll call you forever to get you to buy more. I know this because they're headquartered in my city and I know people who worked in the call sales area.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis

tell them to stop taking good cuts for themselves and their friends, and sending shit all over the country

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2017 08:32 PM (QC/4S)

287 260 My wife wrecked the minivan. With State Farm, she went to the collision place dropped off the wrecked van, enterprise was waiting there with her rental minivan. When her van is fixed, she leaves the rental at the repair place and it is taken care of. This is with State Farm, and the accident was her fault.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 08:29 PM (BoMuO)

Brace yourself for the premium increase.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 12, 2017 08:33 PM (NWiLs)

288 MIL sent us Omaha Steaks one time and they screwed us out of the caramel apple tartlets. Fuckers.

Steaks.Meh. Small.

Posted by: Under Fire at December 12, 2017 08:33 PM (r9UYA)

289 Reality check If Roy Moore wins and then the Senate seats & votes to expel him there will be another special election. And Moore would win that election by a wider margin.

David Martosko (@dmartosko) December 13, 2017

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 12, 2017 08:33 PM (y3aQB)

290 Okay, that's pretty funny that blacks are making a stand for an underage white chick potentially maybe possibly being sexually abused as a young teen.


Honestly, no one here believes these allegations at all. The people voting against Roy simply don't like his politics.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 08:33 PM (WbIyz)

291 You run into a weasel and you find out that small furry animals are not covered. That sucks.

Posted by: Some crazed lunatic woman at December 12, 2017 08:33 PM (UdKB7)

292 My wife wrecked the minivan"

Brad?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 12, 2017 08:33 PM (MINbv)

293 256 demoRats are testing. If Jones wins. Every Republican running will be a sexual assaulter.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at December 12, 2017 08:29 PM (xInes)

---

I keep saying it, but it's happening win or lose. Racist/sexist/homophobe have been played too much and are ineffective.

Child rapist is the only thing left that holds any power. Even better is not needing any proof or to take it to trial since it happened decades ago.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 08:33 PM (T4n7S)

294 Agreed, I'll put my flame suit on and say over the top SoCon is not my cup of tea

I'm a huge social conservative and he gives me concerns. But he's just one vote so it won't matter. He's just a reliable yes for good judges and conservative stuff.

Unless the Democrats get smart and figure out how easily he's be manipulated with goofy data that appeals to his worldview. This tax increase will actually reduce abortions, judge!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:33 PM (39g3+)

295 Only GOPe would have a full plan, probably broken down into autistic detail, about tring to screw someone before they've even won the election.

I wonder if they ran it by the Democrats before unveiling it?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 12, 2017 08:34 PM (4ErVI)

296 Yes, I like Costco's steaks as well.

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 08:34 PM (GsAUU)

297 A few hours earlier today Drudge felt he needed to come up with a pithy top headline of how to frame this political contest, so he reached for a western metaphor. Was it "High Noon", "Gunfight at the O. K. Corral" or even "Unforgiven". Nope.

For Drudge, this is the "Brokeback Election".

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at December 12, 2017 08:34 PM (ZZdXT)

298 I love Dan Bongino.

He knows his shit.

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 08:34 PM (GsAUU)

299
*snort*

Does the ginger chick know Teh Ewok? She' talking pancakes.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 12, 2017 08:34 PM (eXA4G)

300 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 12, 2017 08:35 PM (KCxzN)

301 Omaha is ok but not worth the money

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 12, 2017 08:35 PM (1SRec)

302 Howdy, Alton.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 12, 2017 08:35 PM (Ckg4U)

303 230 Cat Ass Trophy, that's CAC, aka Brandon.
Posted by: Emmie -- please, no public display of insanity at December 12, 2017 08:27 PM (/A+Cl)


That was a joke aimed at what I assume are Ace's poor fashion choices. But we all know Ace writes the blog in nothing but his tighty-whiteys.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 08:35 PM (BoMuO)

304 Just saw a polling place from out in the country. Moore 358, Jones 58

Posted by: CSMBigBird at December 12, 2017 08:35 PM (xInes)

305 'evening AltonJackson

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2017 08:35 PM (QC/4S)

306 Weasel, one of Mr. BTEG's favorite tricks is to hide chocolate in various places. When I get into a crisis, he brings out the secret chocolate stash. I was home alone for a week this summer while he and the youngest were at a convention. He had chocolate stashed in several places in case I had an emotional crisis.

And I don't blame WeaselWoman for hiding the bag.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 12, 2017 08:36 PM (FQKBL)

307 AL sec of State is slow on results, but Real Clear Politics has Jones with a big lead. Does Not look right.

Posted by: Paladin at December 12, 2017 08:36 PM (A6JWj)

308 Omaha is ok but not worth the money
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

They are a source for rock lobsters, though

Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2017 08:36 PM (yM/Yl)

309 Omaha is ok but not worth the money

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Posted by: truth at December 12, 2017 08:36 PM (QC/4S)

310 280 Nope, engage in mutual fellatio all you want; I declare it constitutional!
Posted by: Anthony Kennedy at December 12, 2017 08:31 PM (H5knJ)

_______

And a requirement!

Posted by: Ginsburg at December 12, 2017 08:36 PM (LnOh3)

311 I'M-A GONNA WEEN!

Posted by: Wario at December 12, 2017 08:36 PM (t3F5b)

312 >288 MIL sent us Omaha Steaks one time and they screwed us out of the caramel apple tartlets. Fuckers.

--

Obama Steaks? You didn't cut that.

Posted by: Johnny Pedantic at December 12, 2017 08:37 PM (ip6Ga)

313 Weasel, one of Mr. BTEG's favorite tricks is to hide chocolate in various places.

He's a wise man.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:37 PM (39g3+)

314 What is up with drudge? Is that number real?

Posted by: IC at December 12, 2017 08:37 PM (2Gv3j)

315 Ginger chick is cute, she just needs to smile a little. Oh, I'm sorry. I just literally raped her. I guess I can never run for senate.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 08:37 PM (BoMuO)

316 No way you could hide chocolate anywhere in my house and expect me not to find it.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 08:37 PM (RzgQJ)

317 What is up with drudge? Is that number real?
Posted by: IC at December 12, 2017 08:37 PM (2Gv3j)
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Looks better than the one I saw.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2017 08:37 PM (vDqXW)

318 For Drudge, this is the "Brokeback Election".

So its a movie about homosexual shepherds?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:37 PM (39g3+)

319 309 Omaha is ok but not worth the money

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Posted by: truth at December 12, 2017 08:36 PM (QC/4S)


What?!

Posted by: Peyton Manning at December 12, 2017 08:37 PM (GsAUU)

320 They are counting the big cities ie Black vote first

Hoping for a really HUGE White vote for Moore

Posted by: Gonzotx at December 12, 2017 08:37 PM (s587h)

321 NYT has the same number. Early yet.

Posted by: lizabth at December 12, 2017 08:38 PM (p0fBx)

322
291 You run into a weasel and you find out that small furry animals are not covered. That sucks.
Posted by: Some crazed lunatic woman at December 12, 2017 08:33 PM (UdKB7)
--------
She also didn't want to stop and I had to chase her almost a mile before she pulled over. I think I interrupted the cop's donut break because he was a useless asshole and wouldn't make out a police report.

Posted by: Weasel at December 12, 2017 08:38 PM (Sfs6o)

323 Who is this Ginger Chick y'all are talking about?

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 08:38 PM (RzgQJ)

324 Write in winning by 85%

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 08:38 PM (LnOh3)

325 Ace, seriously The Buzz Feed link is awful. Not suitable for a smart military blog.

Posted by: George at December 12, 2017 08:38 PM (Qm+Ky)

326 "No way you could hide chocolate anywhere in my house and expect me not to find it."
-Posted by: garrett The Dog at December 12, 2017 08:37 PM (RzgQJ)

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 12, 2017 08:38 PM (Ckg4U)

327 Drudge currently using NYT who predicts Jones will win by 4

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2017 08:39 PM (5gaNQ)

328 316 No way you could hide chocolate anywhere in my house and expect me not to find it.
Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 08:37 PM (RzgQJ)

--Nor in my stepbrother's house with that doggeh of his.

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 08:39 PM (GsAUU)

329 What?!
Posted by: Peyton Manning at December 12, 2017 08:37 PM (GsAUU)

Omaha, Omaha ?

Posted by: echo at December 12, 2017 08:39 PM (QC/4S)

330 'No way you could hide chocolate anywhere in my house and expect me not to find it.'

I'm hiding a Tootsie Roll just for you!

Posted by: Some crazed lunatic woman at December 12, 2017 08:39 PM (UdKB7)

331 >>Drudge currently using NYT who predicts Jones will win by 4


I'll take that action.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 08:39 PM (RzgQJ)

332 Who is this Ginger Chick y'all are talking about?


Any and all Redheads. You ain't from around hear are ya?

Posted by: Paladin at December 12, 2017 08:40 PM (A6JWj)

333 Buzzfeed?

Really?

Posted by: Rock Lobstah at December 12, 2017 08:40 PM (mjirE)

334 No way you could hide chocolate anywhere in my house and expect me not to find it.


Seriously. I'm like a truffle pig.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 08:40 PM (WbIyz)

335 If Jones wins this we know what the election strategy will be in 2018.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at December 12, 2017 08:40 PM (xQfPr)

336 I dropped my car off at the collision place today. Some idiot hit it when it was parked.

They gave me a 2018 Corolla as a rental car, which kind of scared me. I was like, "Don't you have something that's old and beat up?"

Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2017 08:40 PM (sdi6R)

337 Who will Roy Moore rape next? Stay tuned.

Posted by: CNN at December 12, 2017 08:40 PM (UW4Uc)

338 How's Pence's voter fraud commission coming along?

Posted by: Under Fire at December 12, 2017 08:41 PM (r9UYA)

339 Drudge just now:

JONES 53%
MOORE 46%

Okay, I can breathe again.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2017 08:41 PM (vDqXW)

340 They gave me a 2018 Corolla as a rental car, which kind of scared me. I was like, "Don't you have something that's old and beat up?"

"not yet, I guess"
--Rental guy

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:41 PM (39g3+)

341
If I recall correctly, judging by the primary totals, Moore would need all the other R's votes to beat what Jones got in his primary.

Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 12, 2017 08:41 PM (LATmp)

342 People who don't live in Alabama anymore, but still wanna vote there, really seem to like the pinko.

Posted by: forest at December 12, 2017 08:41 PM (/1c+O)

343 >>Some crazed lunatic woman ran into my car recently
and put a dent in the rear passenger door which cost $3,500 to fix. Had
to get a whole new door.

Posted by: Weasel

Next time you meet Bluebell for lunch park down the block from the restaurant.

Posted by: Aviator at December 12, 2017 08:41 PM (2cuLk)

344 Just bffft...right in there!

Posted by: Tim Tebow at December 12, 2017 08:41 PM (BLayO)

345 331
>>Drudge currently using NYT who predicts Jones will win by 4


Where do you see that? Not on their page

Posted by: George at December 12, 2017 08:41 PM (Qm+Ky)

346 If Jones wins this we know what the election strategy will be in 2018.

---

That right there is the best reason to vote for Moore.

Posted by: Johnny Twelves Evon at December 12, 2017 08:41 PM (KdDCu)

347 >>Seriously. I'm like a truffle pig.


Yep. Ex Wife hated that.

Of course, she was only 5' 1". So, half the house was out of the question for her 'hiding places'.


Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 08:41 PM (RzgQJ)

348 Who will Roy Moore rape next?


Doug Jones.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 08:42 PM (WbIyz)

349 How's Pence's voter fraud commission coming along?

That's the guy I'm worried is snoozing. Super important work, and we've heard zilch ever since a bunch of states said they wouldn't cooperate.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:42 PM (39g3+)

350 How's Pence's voter fraud commission coming along?

==

I asked him to recuse himself, because he voted int he last election

Posted by: Jeff Sessions at December 12, 2017 08:42 PM (QC/4S)

351 292 My wife wrecked the minivan"

Brad?
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 12, 2017 08:33 PM (MINbv)

She was doing the talk on the phone while drinking coffee while negotiating the inside lane of a double turn lane and driving with your knee thing and sideswiped a car on the outside lane. But of course, it was my fault, even though I was 1000 miles away and not on the phone with her at the time.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 08:42 PM (BoMuO)

352 Sonobi Sonobi everywhere...but mostly to the left of the margin... I hope Ace is making ninety bazillion dollars off of that Sonobi company. If he isn't imma gonna get mad.

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at December 12, 2017 08:42 PM (tDTdL)

353 Truffle pig. Truffle pig. Does whatever a truffle pig does.

Posted by: Homer Simpson at December 12, 2017 08:42 PM (IqV8l)

354 I want Moore to win because I don't want this tactic to work.

But I'm not nearly as confident as the rest of the horde.

Posted by: Tatum at December 12, 2017 08:42 PM (uc45P)

355 333 Buzzfeed?

Really?
Posted by: Rock Lobstah at December 12, 2017 08:40 PM (mjirE)



Is that a promotion or a demotion from Al Jazeerah?

Posted by: buzzion at December 12, 2017 08:42 PM (lKs2v)

356 NYT has Jones by .07.

Posted by: lizabth at December 12, 2017 08:42 PM (p0fBx)

357 156 Are there in fact any indisputably solid conservative Republicans on the national stage who are also Mormon?

Posted by: doomed at December 12, 2017 08:17 PM (UW4Uc)

=========

*Ahem*

What am I, blind liver?

Posted by: Glenn Beck at December 12, 2017 08:42 PM (BiLU+)

358 Omaha ships in really nice styrofoam coolers. My ma used to order from them. Never tasted their meat.

Posted by: dartist at December 12, 2017 08:42 PM (nisXv)

359 NBC, of all places, is reporting that Trump lawyer Ty Cobb is saying that all White House interviews are done in the Mueller probe.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2017 08:43 PM (/tuJf)

360 Ducey on Fox is insufferable. What a douche.

Posted by: Under Fire at December 12, 2017 08:43 PM (r9UYA)

361 I have to say my insurance company (USAA) did a good job with the whole thing. Pretty painless and the car looks new again.

Posted by: Weasel at December 12, 2017 08:43 PM (Sfs6o)

362 AL sec of State is slow on results, but Real Clear Politics has Jones with a big lead. Does Not look right.

Probably urban reporting first.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 12, 2017 08:43 PM (oVJmc)

363 >>Who will Roy Moore rape next?


Charles Barkeley

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 08:43 PM (RzgQJ)

364 .05 and dropping

Posted by: lizabth at December 12, 2017 08:43 PM (p0fBx)

365 I would assault that ginger Tallapoosa a little.

Posted by: Al Franken at December 12, 2017 08:43 PM (BLayO)

366 I was amazed that the new Corrollas are within a few inches of being the same size as Camry's from just a generation or two ago.

Not to mention the new "small" Chevy pickup that's as long as a Suburban from a decade or so ago.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 08:43 PM (T4n7S)

367 I want to see that broad crying when Moore is declared the winner.

Posted by: Zoltan at December 12, 2017 08:43 PM (T8WeQ)

368 Heck, I remember when bars were closed on voting day until the polls closed.

Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2017 08:43 PM (EGFUD)

369 Ducey on Fox is insufferable. What a douche.
Posted by: Under Fire at December 12, 2017 08:43 PM (r9UYA)
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That would make him Douchey.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2017 08:43 PM (vDqXW)

370 If I recall correctly, judging by the primary totals, Moore would need all the other R's votes to beat what Jones got in his primary.



The reverse. Moore was just barely edged out by the total of all Democratic Primary votes.

He was 2 to 1 in the runoff.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 08:43 PM (WbIyz)

371 346, absolutely. If Jones wins, every republican will be called raping child molesters in 2018 and 2020, and the media will repeat the "accusations" non stop for 6 months straight.

Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at December 12, 2017 08:43 PM (ZZhQQ)

372 NYT is tightening. Only has Jones winning by 1%

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2017 08:44 PM (5gaNQ)

373 Moore raped me.

Posted by: Inanimate carbon rod at December 12, 2017 08:44 PM (UW4Uc)

374 I would assault that ginger Tallapoosa a little.

Posted by: Al Franken at December 12, 2017 08:43 PM (BLayO)

---

Fair, the Coosa.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 08:44 PM (T4n7S)

375 Seems like the votes are swinging rapidly in Moore's favor. The wailing and gnashing of teeth should be schadenfreudelicious.

Posted by: Grimaldi at December 12, 2017 08:44 PM (CeQH1)

376 Bingo. Had he stayed out, Strange might have backed in to the runoff.


Posted by: Jackal at December 12, 2017 08:24 PM (o3+fQ)


Probably not... Mo Brooks would have won.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 08:44 PM (FTXAT)

377 The only county with most of their votes in is Limestone, and Moore seems to be doing 4% better than the NYT estimate.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 08:44 PM (+dsLj)

378 Yaaaaayyyyy!!! Ohhhhhhh. Yaaaaayyyyy! ohhhhhhh. Yaaaaayyyyyy!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 08:45 PM (BoMuO)

379

The reverse. Moore was just barely edged out by the total of all Democratic Primary votes.

He was 2 to 1 in the runoff.


Oh.

Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 12, 2017 08:45 PM (LATmp)

380 Drudge NOW:

JONES 50%
MOORE 49%

!!!!!!!!

It was nice while it lasted, wasn't it Duggie, boy?

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2017 08:45 PM (vDqXW)

381 McConnell already said Moore is going to the Ethics Committee.
***********


I can't say where McConnell should be going.
I could say but if I did it would be hammer time.

Posted by: gNewt at December 12, 2017 08:45 PM (sexas)

382 Mo Brooks would have won the primary if Strange had not run.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 08:46 PM (WbIyz)

383 Kinda rather see Mo Brooks in that seat anyway

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:46 PM (39g3+)

384 You don't need a telescope to see that Finnegan is the pro in that room.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 08:46 PM (BLayO)

385 I do only cylinder steak.

Posted by: Obama Steaks at December 12, 2017 08:46 PM (UW4Uc)

386 When you see a trend go from like 32%->49%. You can kind of see the way the trend is going.

Moore by 103%.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2017 08:46 PM (vDqXW)

387 Can't believe the GOP didn't get a tax bill signed sealed and delivered before today's election. If Jones wins tax cuts are dead.

Posted by: #neverskankles at December 12, 2017 08:46 PM (Ea0Mm)

388 Now the NYT predicts Moore? All over the place

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2017 08:46 PM (5gaNQ)

389 Moore pulls ahead on NYT

Posted by: Under Fire at December 12, 2017 08:46 PM (r9UYA)

390 You, Republican running for dog-catcher in Sheboygan, do you denounce known child-rapist Roy Moore? Or do you support his rampant pedophilia?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 08:47 PM (BoMuO)

391 368
Heck, I remember when bars were closed on voting day until the polls closed.

Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2017 08:43 PM (EGFUD)

Most control state liquor stores in the South are closed on election day.

Posted by: George at December 12, 2017 08:47 PM (Qm+Ky)

392 >>>>Are there in fact any indisputably solid conservative Republicans on the national stage who are also Mormon?


Mike Lee

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 12, 2017 08:47 PM (jn7FC)

393 373
Moore raped me.

Moore is raping my cat right now. He's only 6 years old!

Posted by: forest at December 12, 2017 08:47 PM (/1c+O)

394 345 331
>>Drudge currently using NYT who predicts Jones will win by 4


Where do you see that? Not on their page

Posted by: George at December 12, 2017 08:41 PM (Qm+Ky)

++++

NYT Tracker is here:

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/alabama-
senate-special-election-roy-moore-doug-jones

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 08:47 PM (FUu/Z)

395 NYT is predicting a tie.

Posted by: Serious Cat at December 12, 2017 08:47 PM (mvywl)

396
Moore raped me.

Posted by: Inanimate carbon rod
====



My card.

Posted by: Gloria Allred at December 12, 2017 08:47 PM (dUOAV)

397 it was my fault, even though I was 1000 miles away and not on the phone with her at the time.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 08:42 PM (BoMuO)

---

Seems easy enough. It was your fault for not being the one on the phone with her. I understand completely.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 08:47 PM (T4n7S)

398 Can't believe the GOP didn't get a tax bill signed sealed and delivered before today's election. If Jones wins tax cuts are dead.

Posted by: #neverskankles
**************************

Son, that's the plan.

Posted by: Mitch the bitch at December 12, 2017 08:48 PM (sexas)

399 Volatility early on is normal until the counted votes build up some density. Any early lead depends on which areas are tallied first.

As more get tallied, change of movement slows.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 12, 2017 08:48 PM (oVJmc)

400 Second most reporting county is Wilcox at 30%+, and Jones is underperforming there.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 08:48 PM (+dsLj)

401 Republican running for dog-catcher in Sheboygan, do you denounce known child-rapist Roy Moore? Or do you support his rampant pedophilia?

They're gonna run with that a few weeks or months, definitely. But I think by this time next year the crap that comes out about congressmen and media types is going to make Moore look like a saint.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:48 PM (39g3+)

402 >>Can't believe the GOP didn't get a tax bill signed sealed and delivered before today's election. If Jones wins tax cuts are dead.

Ah, no. The winner won't be seated until January.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2017 08:48 PM (/tuJf)

403 Buy a whole tenderloin from Costco, slice, and freeze. Sous vide one or two for 90 minutes, sear. Beats anything else we have ever purchased labeled, "steak."

Posted by: OldDominionMom at December 12, 2017 08:48 PM (GzDYP)

404 You, Republican running for dog-catcher in Sheboygan, do you denounce known child-rapist Roy Moore? Or do you support his rampant pedophilia?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 08:47 PM (BoMuO)
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Are you now, or have you ever been a Roy Moore supporter.

Posted by: Future Democratic Party (but still with Sexual Assailants) at December 12, 2017 08:48 PM (vDqXW)

405 Let be real. Moore is literally going to win with the MSM calling him a pedophile and with allegations.

Doug Jones should have won by double digits.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 08:48 PM (g4lFK)

406
Prediction:

If Moore wins, it will be declared the END of the GOP all day tomorrow!

Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 12, 2017 08:48 PM (LATmp)

407 361 I have to say my insurance company (USAA) did a good job with the whole thing. Pretty painless and the car looks new again.
Posted by: Weasel at December 12, 2017 08:43 PM (Sfs6o)


The police officer told me to call my insurance company (Nationwide) and tell them to get the police report.

They apparently didn't do that. They kept telling me that I had to pay the deductible and pay for a rental car, then try to get reimbursed by the other driver's insurance company.

I was not a happy camper. I put in a claim with the other company (Sentry), and they seem to be taking care of it so far.

I've had Nationwide for about 30 years, and I am seriously reconsidering that now.

Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2017 08:48 PM (sdi6R)

408


NO

RAPE

ME

Posted by: The Horta at December 12, 2017 08:48 PM (IqV8l)

409 Moore +8 now.

Posted by: Under Fire at December 12, 2017 08:49 PM (r9UYA)

410 376
Bingo. Had he stayed out, Strange might have backed in to the runoff.




Posted by: Jackal at December 12, 2017 08:24 PM (o3+fQ)


Probably not... Mo Brooks would have won.


Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 08:44 PM (FTXAT)

====================
Maybe. I dunno if he had the funding to go up against Strange. My point is that if the establishment had laid low and acted as Strange's bank, he might have gotten in. By sticking their nose in, they led the base to support the biggest "F-U" they could find and Moore is more of an outsider than Brooks.

Posted by: Jackal at December 12, 2017 08:49 PM (o3+fQ)

411 NYT is updated automagically via algorithm, I believe, so it will bounce around as things get reported.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at December 12, 2017 08:49 PM (xQfPr)

412

You saw it here first:

Fake News tomorrow: "GOP Has Moore Problems"

Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 12, 2017 08:49 PM (LATmp)

413 It's over. Moore will swamp him now.

Should we send a case of non-alcoholic Champagne to the Dimocrap Moral victory party ??

Posted by: sofa saver at December 12, 2017 08:49 PM (4u7kU)

414 Drudge Now:

JONES 48%
MOORE 50%

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Future Democratic Party (but still with Sexual Assailants) at December 12, 2017 08:49 PM (vDqXW)

415 Nutting to vorry about -- President Donald told me if I fix BAMA election result, he have more flexibility wit me aftervards.

Relax, have youself some nice Valu-Rite Vodka ...

Posted by: Vladimir Putin at December 12, 2017 08:49 PM (BiLU+)

416 >>>Seems like the votes are swinging rapidly in Moore's favor. The wailing and gnashing of teeth should be schadenfreudelicious.

In the Trump era it's Christmas and Hanukkah everyday!

Posted by: LizLem at December 12, 2017 08:49 PM (e0Msj)

417 387 Can't believe the GOP didn't get a tax bill signed sealed and delivered before today's election. If Jones wins tax cuts are dead.

Posted by: #neverskankles at December 12, 2017 08:46 PM (Ea0Mm)

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Gosh, that's weird.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 08:49 PM (T4n7S)

418 Moore is overperforming in Houston county as well.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 08:49 PM (+dsLj)

419 ABC just put it as Moore ahead 50-48

Posted by: navycopjoe at December 12, 2017 08:49 PM (N6CVU)

420 21
Wait, how is shooting a sheriff "self-defense?"
=======
Hey, he didn't shoot the deputy.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 12, 2017 08:49 PM (W+kMI)

421 If Moore wins, it will be declared the END of the GOP all day tomorrow!
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 12, 2017 08:48 PM (LATmp)

Meh. The GOP has been dead for quite some time.

Posted by: CDR M at December 12, 2017 08:50 PM (EkJOK)

422 I hear good things about Farmer's Insurance, but I think it changes over time, which is best and which gets to be a problem.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:50 PM (39g3+)

423 DDHQ Is sucking hind tit. Buzzfeed is NOT AOSHQ!

Live coverage my butt...

Posted by: Fewenuff at December 12, 2017 08:50 PM (gHE26)

424 What is happening? I'm at work. Should I slit my wrists now or wait a while?

Posted by: T at December 12, 2017 08:50 PM (XlF/h)

425 >>Gosh, that's weird.

Also wrong.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2017 08:50 PM (/tuJf)

426 NYT algorithm is surprisingly good

Posted by: Jeff Sessions at December 12, 2017 08:50 PM (QC/4S)

427 Naw it is gonna be close I tell ya.

Posted by: Karl the truth Rove at December 12, 2017 08:50 PM (ZuGkg)

428 this $hit is all over the place. Moore is up by 7 now.

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 12, 2017 08:50 PM (+Dllb)

429 McConnell already said Moore is going to the Ethics Committee. What kind of process they are going to go through is the question.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 08:27 PM (FUu/Z)

--------

They can only investigate what he did while a sitting Senator. McTurtle the Chinless gots nuttin.

Posted by: Side draft at December 12, 2017 08:50 PM (ohP/V)

430 How's Pence's voter fraud commission coming along?

That's the guy I'm worried is snoozing. Super important work, and we've heard zilch ever since a bunch of states said they wouldn't cooperate.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:42 PM (39g3+)


If they are doing their job, I expect it to be quit as they gather evidence to make an air-tight case with all the "t"s crossed and "i"s dotted.

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 12, 2017 08:50 PM (itfg0)

431 :/

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2017 08:50 PM (QC/4S)

432 NYT is predicting a tie.

Then can we have them duel and the winner takes the seat?

Huh? Huh? Can we? Can we?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 12, 2017 08:51 PM (tRaq7)

433 Roy Moore in 2024! Too early?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 12, 2017 08:51 PM (e9G8E)

434

It's a Rape-lash!

Posted by: Van Jones at December 12, 2017 08:51 PM (dUOAV)

435 Ah, Finnegan, he's breaking their poor little hearts with the one thing the SJWs fear most in life: math.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 08:51 PM (BLayO)

436 Jones wins: GOP Finished

Moore wins: GOP Finished

One Headline Fits All

But it's really another embarrassing loss for the Dems.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 12, 2017 08:51 PM (oVJmc)

437 President Donald told me if I fix BAMA election result, he have more flexibility wit me aftervards.

Man that Putin is powerful for a sawed off alcoholic ex-KGB mutt. Can he fix daylight savings time and cut prices on beef jerkey?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:51 PM (39g3+)

438 In the only counties with significant reporting numbers, Moore is overperforming and Jones underperforming.

FUCK YOU MEDIA AND YOUR PSYCH WARFARE

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 08:51 PM (+dsLj)

439 If Moore wins, it will be declared the END of the GOP all day tomorrow!

Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 12, 2017 08:48 PM (LATmp)
---
They thought a tax bill passed by elected representatives was the "End of Democracy". Alabamans voting the Senator they want in is definitely the end of representative government, at least.

Posted by: Future Democratic Party (but still with Sexual Assailants) at December 12, 2017 08:51 PM (vDqXW)

440 it was my fault, even though I was 1000 miles away and not on the phone with her at the time.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 08:42 PM (BoMuO)

---

There is also the off chance that your wife only dreamt she had a wreck and it's your fault.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 08:51 PM (T4n7S)

441 McConnell already said Moore is going to the Ethics Committee.

***********





I can't say where McConnell should be going.

I could say but if I did it would be hammer time.

Posted by: gNewt at December 12, 2017 08:45 PM (sexas)

McConnell is full of shit... Senate rules do not allow punishment of behavior before a person is a Senator. Its why Franken is so sure the ethics committee will not ding him.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 08:52 PM (FTXAT)

442 Lots of people, myself included, thought that the appointment of Attorney General Strange to the seat was a quid pro quo for easing up on the investigation of our governor.

It was a bit too much corruption to tolerate, even in a standardly corrupt southern state like Alabama.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 08:52 PM (WbIyz)

443 388
Now the NYT predicts Moore? All over the place

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2017 08:46 PM (5gaNQ)

===========
The urban precincts are in, maybe, leaving rural ones that are likely Moores'.

Posted by: Jackal at December 12, 2017 08:52 PM (o3+fQ)

444 Relax, have youself some nice Valu-Rite Vodka ...
Posted by: Vladimir Putin

I mean Billy Bob Putin y'all

Posted by: Bruce at December 12, 2017 08:52 PM (8ikIW)

445 Jones doesn't need to diddle kids since he has ABC sucking his dick nonstop

Posted by: navycopjoe at December 12, 2017 08:52 PM (N6CVU)

446 139 Although it won't stop the daily anti-Trump drumbeat by the Fake News Media; I hope that Moore stomps Jones' butt into a squishy little mud hole. Just to show them how much we hate the left/liberals/FNM. BIRM

Will we see tears and lamentations of their women?
======
We will get the tears and lamentation of their newscasters. Will that work for you?

Posted by: exdem13 at December 12, 2017 08:52 PM (W+kMI)

447 Rape and rape, what is rape?

Posted by: Idiot woman holding Spock's brain at December 12, 2017 08:52 PM (UW4Uc)

448 My wife orders the Omaha steaks, as she gets gift certificates from one of her relations.
They aren't bad, the filets are perfect, really.
The shipping is over the top, huge styrofoam shipping containers with dry ice. I saved a couple of them and converted them to swamp coolers during our rare 100+ degree days. (We don't have AC).

Posted by: navybrat at December 12, 2017 08:52 PM (w7KSn)

449 USAA handled the whole thing and went after the other driver who admitted she was at fault. The cop was a lazy asshat and I had a conversation with his sergeant who was only slightly better. The insurance and repair were all stress free.

Posted by: Weasel at December 12, 2017 08:52 PM (Sfs6o)

450 Tomorrow's headlines:

"Moore wins by smaller than expected margin in GOP safe seat, is this a sign the GOP is in trouble?"

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 08:53 PM (+dsLj)

451 Here comes the Judge.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at December 12, 2017 08:53 PM (xInes)

452 Then can we have them duel and the winner takes the seat?

That would be good to see. My guess is Moore can sling that hogleg like a cowboy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:53 PM (39g3+)

453 437. V.V. Putin does not drink alcohol, nor does he smoke. As a Russian, he's an outlier. KGB discipline, dontcha know.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 08:53 PM (fA1SL)

454 There is a great Sweet Home Alabama rendition by the Leningrad Cowboys on YouTube.


Includes the Russian Army singing backup.

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 08:53 PM (LnOh3)

455 "It seems like a really Republican state that's voting for the Republican" - Buzzfeed gal.

Posted by: forest at December 12, 2017 08:53 PM (/1c+O)

456 444 Relax, have youself some nice Valu-Rite Vodka ...
Posted by: Vladimir Putin

I mean Billy Bob Putin y'all

Posted by: Bruce at December 12, 2017 08:52 PM (8ikIW)

=============

Heh. That would have been much better ...

Posted by: ShainS at December 12, 2017 08:53 PM (BiLU+)

457 NYT is predicting a tie.
---
I think that Roy is better at making fire.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2017 08:53 PM (vDqXW)

458 Should I slit my wrists now or wait a while?

---

Wait until tomorrow prime time evening news and then decide.

Posted by: Johnny Twelves Evon at December 12, 2017 08:53 PM (KdDCu)

459 Rape, steaks, special elections and rape.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 12, 2017 08:53 PM (NWiLs)

460 Moore +10 now. My prediction.

Posted by: Under Fire at December 12, 2017 08:53 PM (r9UYA)

461 When is this seat up again?

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at December 12, 2017 08:53 PM (xQfPr)

462 With the latest outings of liberal perverts and Dems claiming the moral high ground The DNC are trying to combine the liberal and evangelical vote into a new contingency named the born yesterday vote.. LMAO

Posted by: Voter Dude at December 12, 2017 08:53 PM (U5Xeq)

463 I've had Nationwide for about 30 years, and I am seriously reconsidering that now.
Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2017 08:48 PM (sdi6R)


I was rear-ended at a red light. The other guys insurance (Fred Loya) was dragging their feet. State Farm took care of me and my car, then went after the other insurance company themselves.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 08:53 PM (BoMuO)

464 From the NYT latest estimate:

Right now, our most likely estimates span Jones +13 to Moore +15.

I call weapons grade Bull$hit.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 12, 2017 08:53 PM (+Dllb)

465 Looks like after the absentee ( read Democrat forgery votes) had an early lead for Jones the actual vote are flooding in as a Moore win. The Buzzed site folks have the sadz (yay!). If these keeps up ~ my prediction of Moore between 7 to 10 will sound like I should, perhaps , replace polls and get paid sh*loads of money to make election predictions.

Ok off to the stove to make popcorn.

Heh.

Posted by: Publius Redux at December 12, 2017 08:53 PM (0YSzp)

466 How many YouTube hits for "Sweet Home Alabama" are we going to get anyway?

Posted by: exdem13 at December 12, 2017 08:54 PM (W+kMI)

467 426
NYT algorithm is surprisingly good

Posted by: Jeff Sessions at December 12, 2017 08:50 PM (QC/4S)

Yeah, not just good DAMN good!
http://tinyurl.com/j2larrd

Posted by: President Hillary at December 12, 2017 08:54 PM (Qm+Ky)

468 >>I can't say where McConnell should be going.
I could say but if I did it would be hammer time.
Posted by: gNewt at December 12, 2017 08:45 PM (sexas)

"Early night" for Mitch McConnell?

Posted by: Max Power at December 12, 2017 08:54 PM (q177U)

469 I'm gonna go turn on MSNBC

Posted by: forest at December 12, 2017 08:54 PM (/1c+O)

470 You all commenters never get the credit you deserve. Well done.

Posted by: Blake MacBain at December 12, 2017 08:54 PM (Npqi5)

471 Weasel,
**fist bump** on insurance company. They were really good when my car caught fire in my garage and hail damage warranteda roof replacement.

Posted by: linduh at December 12, 2017 08:54 PM (kufk0)

472 I just realized that a lot of third tier republicans came out against moore because they want to feed the alligator hoping it will eat them last.

They must know that this kind of attack is very dangerous to republicans. If all you have to do is scour someone's past, exaggerate it, manufacture some collaboration, and then have everyone clutch their pearls,... well no one is safe.

The R's must all be shaking about what this could mean for them at next election. They are not coming out because they think moore is horrible, but because they are scared.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 12, 2017 08:54 PM (LWu6U)

473 Damn Moore is fucking Jones over like a viking poet in the rural counties.

The rural voters seem a bit pissed.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 08:54 PM (+dsLj)

474 Anyone ever tried Obamaha (dog) Steaks?
Asking for a liberal neighbor.

Posted by: Guam tipper at December 12, 2017 08:54 PM (/DvFd)

475 453 437. V.V. Putin does not drink alcohol, nor does he smoke. As a Russian, he's an outlier. KGB discipline, dontcha know.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 08:53 PM (fA1SL)

Note... Trump does not drink either... which is a REAL outlier for politicians...

Which I find.... interesting...

Posted by: Don Q. at December 12, 2017 08:55 PM (NgKpN)

476 I like how the leader of the milennial Democrat group is an older man with a beard. He must identify as a 20-something snowflake.

Posted by: Grimaldi at December 12, 2017 08:55 PM (CeQH1)

477 O/T-received my copy of "The Deplorable Gourmet" today.

checked the index, and, much to my surprise, my recipe was included.

Anyway, kudos to bluebell and weasel for putting "The Deplorable Gourmet" together in such a timely fashion. Hard to believe it took just bit over 6 months from inception to gestation to publication.

A fabulous amount of work and you two are to be commended. Outstanding work.

ps: My wife found the intro to be a hoot!

Posted by: blake at December 12, 2017 08:55 PM (WEBkv)

478 When is this seat up again?

I believe in 2020.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 08:55 PM (WbIyz)

479 Moore +12, Drudge

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 12, 2017 08:55 PM (ty7RM)

480 459

You said rape twice

Posted by: That's Hedley! at December 12, 2017 08:55 PM (UW4Uc)

481 453 V.V. Putin does not drink alcohol, nor does he smoke.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 08:53 PM (fA1SL)


Neither does Trump.

Connect the dots, people.

Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2017 08:56 PM (sdi6R)

482 Now, Drudge:

JONES 43%
MOORE 55%

Why isn't he ahead by 50 points?

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2017 08:56 PM (vDqXW)

483 453 V.V. Putin does not drink alcohol, nor does he smoke

ive literally seen him drink two glasses of wine

Posted by: navycopjoe at December 12, 2017 08:56 PM (N6CVU)

484
When is this seat up again?
Posted by: Laughing in Texas


Don't leave the seat up.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2017 08:56 PM (IqV8l)

485 NYT is still leaving possibility of +/- double digits for either candidate.. so it's not THAT accurate.

Posted by: Serious Cat at December 12, 2017 08:56 PM (mvywl)

486 >> "383
Kinda rather see Mo Brooks in that seat anyway."
--
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

For those who do have some moral reservations about Moore (and I am one of them), assuming he wins tonight you can look at him as a placeholder until the people of Alabama can eventually field another conservative for that Senate seat with less trumped up 'baggage" than he has.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at December 12, 2017 08:56 PM (ZZdXT)

487
America is crying tonight.

Posted by: msnbc at December 12, 2017 08:56 PM (dUOAV)

488 The night is young.

And Moore is raping it!

Posted by: MFM pollsters at December 12, 2017 08:56 PM (WlG0e)

489 Deplorable Gourmet, Apple Walnut Cake, extremely delish.

Posted by: lizabth at December 12, 2017 08:56 PM (p0fBx)

490 I just realized that a lot of third tier republicans came out against moore because they want to feed the alligator hoping it will eat them last.

Yeah they were trying to virtue signal furiously so they seemed above that and were safer. All it would do is cement the "hypocrite" charge and force them to resign if accused, based on their own rhetoric. Idiots.

Putin does not drink alcohol

A Russian that does not drink? I find that harder to believe than CNN telling me news.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 08:57 PM (39g3+)

491 451 Here comes the Judge.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRS62nccwmw

Posted by: exdem13 at December 12, 2017 08:57 PM (W+kMI)

492 It's not over until Mary Cloggenstien weighs in...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 12, 2017 08:57 PM (e9G8E)

493 425 >>Gosh, that's weird.

Also wrong.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2017 08:50 PM (/tuJf)

---

C'mon, Jack. You know how the jokes work around here.

We're in at least the second decade of the "I won't believe it until I see it, and maybe not even then without being suspicious that it's a setup for something worse."

It is not our fault that we do not trust them any longer.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 08:57 PM (T4n7S)

494 I'm gonna go turn on MSNBC

It's still early for the lamentation of the wimmins.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 08:57 PM (WbIyz)

495 In the midnight hour, she called. "Moore, Moore, Moore"

Posted by: CSMBigBird at December 12, 2017 08:57 PM (xInes)

496 The rural voters seem a bit pissed.

----

Ok, I laughed out loud.

Posted by: Johnny Twelves Evon at December 12, 2017 08:57 PM (KdDCu)

497 Moore 50-49??

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 12, 2017 08:57 PM (ty7RM)

498 Looks like Moore is signing Dougie's yearbook, right now.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2017 08:57 PM (vDqXW)

499 Moore is grabbing this election by the p****, baby!

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 08:57 PM (+dsLj)

500 But I'm not nearly as confident as the rest of the horde.
Posted by: Tatum at December 12, 2017 08:42 PM (uc45P)

Money matters. So does bad press. So does lack of party support. It will be mildly surprising to me if Jones doesn't win.

But then, I don't know Alabama. Never been there. They might view all of this outside support for Jones as interference and vote for Moore solely out of spite. Of course, it helps Moore immensely that Jones advocates abortion up to the ninth-month moment of birth.

Posted by: troyriser at December 12, 2017 08:57 PM (raGQi)

501 M 53- J 45

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 12, 2017 08:58 PM (e8kgV)

502 Peter Ducey does his hair like he's trying to look like Milo.

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 08:58 PM (GsAUU)

503 Rick Santorum is a doofus. He's no republican.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 08:58 PM (g4lFK)

504 GotDamn .....Moore just lost 8.5 points out of his lead in one update

Posted by: ThomasR at December 12, 2017 08:58 PM (khIpu)

505 It's not over until Mary Cloggenstien weighs in...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 12, 2017 08:57 PM (e9G8E)



And she weighs in at about 400 lbs

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2017 08:58 PM (SiINZ)

506 For those who do have some moral reservations about
Moore (and I am one of them), assuming he wins tonight you can look at
him as a placeholder until the people of Alabama can eventually field
another conservative for that Senate seat with less trumped up 'baggage"
than he has.


Posted by: Anonymous 7 at December 12, 2017 08:56 PM (ZZdXT)

I don't think so. I think the fake stories fade and he would have to really f up to lose the seat. Of course I don't have moral reservations about him so...

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 08:58 PM (FTXAT)

507 Mary Tyler

Posted by: goatexchange at December 12, 2017 08:58 PM (YFnq5)

508 "Let's move on to progression."
What?
"The Jones campaign was able to galvanize black voters.
Whites can only vote for republicans."
Racist much?

"I know Doug Jones pandered to the black community, but with the tax cuts, I had to reconsider."

So, you, who already has a negative tax rate, and will get a more negative tax rate, is upset that someone else is getting a tax cut. Fuck off.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 08:58 PM (BoMuO)

509 Check the county numbers where more than 50% have been reported in, Moore is surging far better than the NYT estimates!

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 08:58 PM (+dsLj)

510 The R's must all be shaking about what this could mean for them at next election. They are not coming out because they think moore is horrible, but because they are scared.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 12, 2017 08:54 PM (LWu6U)

This is TEA party 2... election Bugaloo...

The first incarnation was the reform party... whose agenda was coopted... implemented for about 10 minutes... then right back to the status quo...

Then... the TEA party... which... got coopted... and lost steam due to both GOPe and Media choosing TEA party leaders who were not really serious people (that's what happens when you allow others to choose your spokesmen)....

Now... we have the Deplorables... of whom Trump is but a symptom... a much angrier group....

There is now an existential threat to Inside the Beltway way of life.... and its the Deplorables...

Posted by: Don Q. at December 12, 2017 08:58 PM (NgKpN)

511 I hope Moore wins only to see a transparent attempt by a mega-powerful corporate entity AND millions in RNC money to sway an election all be for naught.

David v. Goliath

Posted by: navybrat at December 12, 2017 08:58 PM (w7KSn)

512 Is it time for my annual watching of MSNBC?

Posted by: LASue at December 12, 2017 08:59 PM (Mjus2)

513 NYT: "Our best guess is that Mr. Moore has a small advantage..."

The JUDGE Moore, biyotch!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 12, 2017 08:59 PM (e9G8E)

514 Errr, THAT'S...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 12, 2017 08:59 PM (e9G8E)

515 I said earlier between 10-15% margin for Moore. Wish I put some money on it.

Posted by: mugiwara at December 12, 2017 08:59 PM (pFSBP)

516 Nia-Makila Henderson has the deepest voice on CNN. And she hates the math nerd on her right.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 08:59 PM (g4lFK)

517 482 Now, Drudge:

JONES 43%
MOORE 55%



Drudge despises Moore. It must pain him to post that.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at December 12, 2017 08:59 PM (AZD0r)

518 The shipping is over the top, huge styrofoam shipping containers with
dry ice. I saved a couple of them and converted them to swamp coolers
during our rare 100+ degree days. (We don't have AC).

The coolers are what 3" thick? Pretty nice for a shipping container. Good customer service too. My ma had one delivered in the summer that sat in the sun and spoiled. They replaced it without question. I used the coolers to put smoked beasts in foil.

Posted by: dartist at December 12, 2017 08:59 PM (nisXv)

519 Got my copy of The Deplorable Cookbook today. Lots of fun, lots of good sounding stuff.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 12, 2017 08:59 PM (W+kMI)

520 Jones getting 28% of White vote which is not NEARLY enough to win

Jacob Wohl

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 12, 2017 08:59 PM (y3aQB)

521 M 51- J 48 16% in.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 12, 2017 08:59 PM (e8kgV)

522 Man up. My wife asks me how she should vote.
Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) a

Both my Mother and my aunt did the same so they could vote for the opposing candidate. They would laugh about it, but neither my Dad nor my uncle knew for years until I told my Dad to stop taking Mom to vote. We kept quiet with my uncle as he voted D and needed his vote nullified.

Posted by: Corned Beef and Chlorine at December 12, 2017 08:59 PM (cXDc4)

523 "Computer issue" in Birmingham. I'm sure only republican votes were affected.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 09:00 PM (BoMuO)

524 Looks like after the absentee...

We really have to end that.

Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2017 09:00 PM (zu3jZ)

525
471 Weasel,
**fist bump** on insurance company. They were really good when my car caught fire in my garage and hail damage warranteda roof replacement.
Posted by: linduh at December 12, 2017 08:54 PM (kufk0)
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*fistbump*
All in all I think they do a good job. I've been a member for about 40 years and they insure all my stuff. I use their banking services, too.

Posted by: Weasel at December 12, 2017 09:00 PM (Sfs6o)

526 Moore, Moore, Moore!

How do you like him? How do you like him?

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 09:00 PM (yXU4O)

527 "Jones got a little boost from a giant dump from Jefferson county."

Well said you articulate bastard.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 09:00 PM (BLayO)

528
They can only investigate what he did while a sitting Senator. McTurtle the Chinless gots nuttin.

Posted by: Side draft at December 12, 2017 08:50 PM (ohP/V)

++++

No. If someone found an old home movie of Moore sodomizing an 11 year old, even if the statute of limitations had run out, they could throw him out of the Senate. Not just could; would and should.

But, most Senators are not going to want to have a lot of inquiries into 40 year old stuff. Never know who else might get bitten.

I predict they will go through some kind of process. Moore will deny it all. The accusers will have their chance to say their piece.

If they are smart, they will stop it in the Ethics Committee for lack of evidence. If the dumb party lets it out of the Ethics Committee, then a lot of GOPers will have to vote on the record on something they would be better off avoiding.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 09:00 PM (FUu/Z)

529 Screw it. I'm waiting another 30 minutes to check in. I ain't tall enough for this roller coaster.

Posted by: T at December 12, 2017 09:00 PM (XlF/h)

530 The rape lobby has spoken...

Posted by: Morning Joe at December 12, 2017 09:00 PM (UW4Uc)

531 508 "Let's move on to progression."
What?
"The Jones campaign was able to galvanize black voters.
Whites can only vote for republicans."
Racist much?

"I know Doug Jones pandered to the black community, but with the tax cuts, I had to reconsider."

So, you, who already has a negative tax rate, and will get a more negative tax rate, is upset that someone else is getting a tax cut. Fuck off.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 08:58 PM (BoMuO)


I heard that. Those two racist assholes were disgusting.

Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2017 09:00 PM (sdi6R)

532 With a rebel yell she cried Moore, Moore, Moore

Posted by: Eric Idol Decision Desk at December 12, 2017 09:00 PM (oVJmc)

533 In the Trump era it's Christmas and Hanukkah everyday!
Posted by: LizLem


It's a Festivus Miracle!!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at December 12, 2017 09:01 PM (S6Pax)

534 Glad I have enough booze for a late call.

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 09:01 PM (GsAUU)

535 The black guy at the Doug Jones party was not a fan. Like, "holding my nose," "this election is bigger than me," "I felt like he was pandering," "did he do enough to connect with AA voters."

That's the sound of victory.

Posted by: sunny-dee at December 12, 2017 09:01 PM (QAOZh)

536 483. Wine is not alcohol, for Slavic purposes.
Also, watch his technique:

https://youtu.be/ven9YyTFF3c

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 09:01 PM (fA1SL)

537
519 Got my copy of The Deplorable Cookbook today. Lots of fun, lots of good sounding stuff.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 12, 2017 08:59 PM (W+kMI)
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Glad you like it! bluebell is the best!

Posted by: Weasel at December 12, 2017 09:01 PM (Sfs6o)

538 Damn that Tallapoosa is such a tease.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 09:01 PM (BLayO)

539 Whites can only vote for republicans."

Obama was just a bad dream, then?

Posted by: Eric Idol Decision Desk at December 12, 2017 09:01 PM (oVJmc)

540 NY Times now has Moore chance of winning at 53%

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2017 09:01 PM (otAqJ)

541 All those pundits complaining about people's taxes being reduced are gonna look pretty ill in a lot of peoples' eyes next April.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 09:01 PM (39g3+)

542 MSNBC reporting Moore 51% Jones 48%, 12% in

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 09:02 PM (gYAkw)

543 I'm a prissier version of Roy Moore.

Posted by: Rick Santorum at December 12, 2017 09:02 PM (H5knJ)

544 . V.V. Putin does not drink alcohol, nor does he smoke
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You know who else doesn't drink alcohol or smoke??? Thump...that's who. Oh no, it's Diet Coke all the way with this guy! !

Posted by: linduh at December 12, 2017 09:02 PM (kufk0)

545 CNN is purposely slow rolling out the numbers.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 09:02 PM (g4lFK)

546
Not yet, gentlemen, not yet.

Posted by: Winston Wolf at December 12, 2017 09:02 PM (8O3HH)

547 517 482 Now, Drudge:

JONES 43%
MOORE 55%


517 482 Now, Drudge:

JONES 43%
MOORE 55%

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMJOdLZaKE0

Posted by: exdem13 at December 12, 2017 09:02 PM (W+kMI)

548 >>It is not our fault that we do not trust them any longer.

Eh, I get tired of concern trolling masquerading as fact. Whoever wins the race isn't getting seated until after the Christmas break, this has only been known for months.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2017 09:02 PM (/tuJf)

549 Moore's up by 15% at MSNBC and they're saying "it's still a tight race"!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 12, 2017 09:02 PM (e9G8E)

550 No. If someone found an old home movie of Moore
sodomizing an 11 year old, even if the statute of limitations had run
out, they could throw him out of the Senate. Not just could; would and
should.



But, most Senators are not going to want to have a lot of inquiries
into 40 year old stuff. Never know who else might get bitten.



I predict they will go through some kind of process. Moore will deny
it all. The accusers will have their chance to say their piece.



If they are smart, they will stop it in the Ethics Committee for
lack of evidence. If the dumb party lets it out of the Ethics Committee,
then a lot of GOPers will have to vote on the record on something they
would be better off avoiding.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 09:00 PM (FUu/Z)\
No they couldn't under current Senate ethics rules. Nor would they be likely to change them since then all of their skeletons are fair game.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 09:02 PM (FTXAT)

551 532 With a rebel yell she cried Moore, Moore, Moore
Posted by: Eric Idol Decision Desk at December 12, 2017 09:00 PM (oVJmc)

--Eric Idol?

You mean "Always look at the bright side of life."

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 09:02 PM (GsAUU)

552 >>Moore's up by 15% at MSNBC and they're saying "it's still a tight race"!


Well, the Night is young.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 09:03 PM (RzgQJ)

553 But then, I don't know Alabama. Never been there. They might view all of this outside support for Jones as interference and vote for Moore solely out of spite. Of course, it helps Moore immensely that Jones advocates abortion up to the ninth-month moment of birth.

Hopefully, my cousins back home in Alabama (everyone is related to each other) are aware that Jones is a Soros puppet. The anti-Christ has pumped millions of dollars into Jones' war chest through his PAC.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 12, 2017 09:03 PM (tRaq7)

554 57% chance Moore wins

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 12, 2017 09:03 PM (y3aQB)

555 Moore's up by 15% at MSNBC and they're saying "it's still a tight race"!
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 12, 2017 09:02 PM (e9G8E)

Moral victory incoming!

Posted by: mugiwara at December 12, 2017 09:03 PM (pFSBP)

556 Disappointed with Birmingham going for Jones.

Posted by: Under Fire at December 12, 2017 09:03 PM (r9UYA)

557 MSNBC reporting Moore 52% Jones 47%, 14% in

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 09:03 PM (gYAkw)

558 539 Whites can only vote for republicans."

Obama was just a bad dream, then?
Posted by: Eric Idol Decision Desk at December 12, 2017 09:01 PM (oVJmc)


Translation for the white guilt types: "No matter how many blacks you vote for, you're still racist."

Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2017 09:03 PM (sdi6R)

559 So if Moore wins it will be whining that he should have actually won by larger margin. "And you dumb deplorables need to stop risking screwing this up!" All while the establishment ignores that they attempted to put their thumbs on the scale for their preferred guy and if they had just let things play out might have gotten someone other than Moore who may have actually been acceptable to them as well. Do I have that about right?

Posted by: buzzion at December 12, 2017 09:04 PM (lKs2v)

560 Within the margin of fraud, not good.

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 09:04 PM (gYAkw)

561 For those who do have some moral reservations about Moore (and I am one of them), assuming he wins tonight you can look at him as a placeholder until the people of Alabama can eventually field another conservative for that Senate seat with less trumped up 'baggage" than he has.
Posted by: Anonymous

___________

My druthers would be Moore wins and Moore finds an excuse to quietly retire, but I rarely get what I want in politics.

But there's no scenario where Jones winning helps our cause.

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 09:04 PM (uc45P)

562 Eh, I get tired of concern trolling masquerading as fact. Whoever wins the race isn't getting seated until after the Christmas break, this has only been known for months.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2017 09:02 PM (/tuJf)

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What's the timetable for the tax cuts?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 09:04 PM (T4n7S)

563 NYT has Moore up 5 w/ 21% reporting.

Unless they're very poorly distributed, that won't change hugely over the remaining 79%.

Posted by: Eric Idol Decision Desk at December 12, 2017 09:04 PM (oVJmc)

564
"You're awake by the way. You're not having a terrible, terrible dream".

Posted by: msnbc's animatronic cashew at December 12, 2017 09:05 PM (dUOAV)

565 Disappointed with Birmingham going for Jones.

It was always going to do that. Let's see what Shelby County does.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 09:05 PM (WbIyz)

566 Moore, Moore, Moore!

How do you like him? How do you like him?
Posted by: Hikaru

Well, somebody else watches JTM Hamburger commercials too.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at December 12, 2017 09:05 PM (S6Pax)

567 CNN is such a dumpster fire of burning clown faces, it's comical to watch. I hate to admit this.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 09:05 PM (g4lFK)

568 They can only investigate what he did while a sitting Senator. McTurtle the Chinless gots nuttin.

Posted by: Side draft at December 12, 2017 08:50 PM (ohP/V)

++++

No. If someone found an old home movie of Moore sodomizing an 11 year old, even if the statute of limitations had run out, they could throw him out of the Senate. Not just could; would and should.

But, most Senators are not going to want to have a lot of inquiries into 40 year old stuff. Never know who else might get bitten.

I predict they will go through some kind of process. Moore will deny it all. The accusers will have their chance to say their piece.

If they are smart, they will stop it in the Ethics Committee for lack of evidence. If the dumb party lets it out of the Ethics Committee, then a lot of GOPers will have to vote on the record on something they would be better off avoiding.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 09:00 PM (FUu/Z)

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No.

The Senate Ethics Committee (laughs) can only investigate the actions of Senators while seated. The DOJ would have to investigate past actions.

Posted by: Side draft at December 12, 2017 09:05 PM (ohP/V)

569 MSNBC reporting Moore 51%, Jones 48%, 15% in

Blacks are 30% of voters, going 95% for Jones.

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 09:06 PM (gYAkw)

570 The NY Slime? 85% chance I am President.

I'll take it!

Posted by: President Hillary at December 12, 2017 09:06 PM (Qm+Ky)

571 The inherent evil in the paycheck withholding of federal taxes is that people see $300 coming out of their $1000 paycheck and think they are paying a huge amount of taxes. They make absolutely no connection to the $8000 tax refund they get in March.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 09:06 PM (BoMuO)

572 >>What's the timetable for the tax cuts?

Sometime next week.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2017 09:06 PM (/tuJf)

573 Welp, I'm going to wander off to bed. 'Night everybody.

Posted by: Weasel at December 12, 2017 09:06 PM (Sfs6o)

574 MSNBC has Maddow...who is upset that Moore isn't into 14 year old boys that look like Cashews.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 09:06 PM (RzgQJ)

575 I predicted 2% in write ins. It's at 1.3%.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 09:06 PM (WbIyz)

576 Well, the Night is young.
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as long as it's not Neal Young.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 12, 2017 09:06 PM (ibLBN)

577 NYT is predicting a tie.

So then Mike Pence casts the deciding vote, right?

Posted by: H. Solo at December 12, 2017 09:06 PM (EzdLW)

578 546
Not yet, gentlemen, not yet.
Posted by: Winston Wolf at December 12, 2017 09:02 PM


*stops unzipping*

Posted by: Dick Poulin at December 12, 2017 09:07 PM (9/CHP)

579 Like a limestone cowboy!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 09:07 PM (T4n7S)

580

"Also, you're not dead and you haven't gone to hell."

Posted by: msnbc's animatronic cashew at December 12, 2017 09:07 PM (dUOAV)

581 567 CNN is such a dumpster fire of burning clown faces, it's comical to watch. I hate to admit this.
Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 09:05 PM (g4lFK)

--I love the photoshop of their panel doing "Hands up! Don't shoot!" with the card changed to "Praise Kek"

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 09:07 PM (GsAUU)

582 Rachel Maddow:

Voter ID laws likely handing election to Moore. Also special elections favor Republicans because they are old and white.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at December 12, 2017 09:07 PM (ubJwS)

583 549 Moore's up by 15% at MSNBC and they're saying "it's still a tight race"!
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Do we have to wait 'til midnight for them to call it?

Posted by: exdem13 at December 12, 2017 09:07 PM (W+kMI)

584 I don't know if any of you saw the ad by Moore about supporting life. (americandigest.org has it). It's very powerful stuff.

Posted by: notsothoreau at December 12, 2017 09:07 PM (5HBd1)

585 536 excellent point
puttieputt needed to drink his wine like T drinks her Boones....double fisted
strawberry hill ftw!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at December 12, 2017 09:07 PM (N6CVU)

586 Is it Enterprise, Alabama that has the statue of the boll weevil?

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 09:08 PM (GsAUU)

587 In the midnight hour
She Cried Moore! Moore! Moore!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at December 12, 2017 09:08 PM (IcT7t)

588 These exit polls are BRUTAL

Vote by race (Alabama exit)

White
Moore 70%
Jones 27%

Black
Jones 95%
Moore 5%

Steve Kornacki (@SteveKornacki) December 13, 2017

White voters (AL exit)
White men w/ college degree 64 32% Moore
White men no college degree: 81 16% Moore

White women w/ college degree: 54 43% Moore
White women no college degree: 74 24% Moore

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 12, 2017 09:08 PM (y3aQB)

589 The rural voters came out of the pines like the Fremen came out of the desert and Moore is their Atredes with his killing word.

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 09:08 PM (LnOh3)

590 Voter ID laws likely handing election to Moore.

Which is another way of saying "fraud would have given Jones the win."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 09:08 PM (39g3+)

591 Bannon is living rent free in CNN's head.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 09:08 PM (g4lFK)

592 Also special elections favor Republicans because they are old and white.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at December 12, 2017 09:07 PM (ubJwS)
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....and vote.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2017 09:08 PM (vDqXW)

593 Voter ID laws likely handing election to Moore.


Like a stopped clock, that Maddow fellow is right.

It also got Trump elected in Wisconsin.

That's why they hate it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 09:09 PM (WbIyz)

594 586

Yes

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 09:09 PM (LnOh3)

595 >>strawberry hill ftw!!!


You can take the Hot Chick out of Tennessee...

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 09:09 PM (RzgQJ)

596 NYT has 57% Jones.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at December 12, 2017 09:09 PM (xQfPr)

597 Sometime next week.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2017 09:06 PM (/tuJf)

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This isn't a gotcha because I don't keep up with their casual work schedules, but do they work all of next week or are they scheduled to call it quits around Wednesday or so for Christmas?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 09:09 PM (T4n7S)

598 Amazing what the guy from the Federalist said about the GOPe basically telling any GOP consultants that if they worked to get anyone but Strange to win the primary that they would basically be black balled in the future. The black eye the Turtle will receive tonight will be long lasting.

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 12, 2017 09:09 PM (y3aQB)

599 589.

* assembles with sietch; places thumpers; readies maker-hooks *

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 09:10 PM (fA1SL)

600 This is going to late for me,

Posted by: Geroge at December 12, 2017 09:10 PM (Qm+Ky)

601 NYT is calling it for Jones by 2.7% with 30% of the precincts in.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 12, 2017 09:10 PM (+Dllb)

602 66% Jones...I hate this.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at December 12, 2017 09:10 PM (xQfPr)

603 Seems like record turn out of black voters sort of negates the whole "voter fraud keeps blacks from voting" line.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 09:10 PM (39g3+)

604 537
519 Got my copy of The Deplorable Cookbook today. Lots of fun, lots of good sounding stuff.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 12, 2017 08:59 PM (W+kMI)
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Glad you like it! bluebell is the best!
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One could make a great party game out of reading the cocktail names and guessing what goes into them. Deplorables don't go for the regular old mixed drinks. And the desserts....sigh....I hope some of them do well with Splenda substitution.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 12, 2017 09:10 PM (W+kMI)

605 I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

Posted by: willy at December 12, 2017 09:10 PM (puf6g)

606 I spent #twoweeks in Birmingham as an exchange student in h.s.

I lived with a really wonderful family. I had this perfect pair of Levi's that had very trendy holes in the knees. When the mom laundered my clothes she patched both holes, thereby destroying whatever fasion value they had. I'm pretty sure she thought I was impoverished.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2017 09:11 PM (EZebt)

607 LOL @ CNN right now. Is it possible that Moore voters just didnt bother to stop for the exit polling?

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 12, 2017 09:11 PM (y3aQB)

608 I don't know if any of you saw the ad by Moore about supporting life. (americandigest.org has it). It's very powerful stuff.

Posted by: notsothoreau at December 12, 2017 09:07 PM (5HBd1)

Wow... now I am crying.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 09:11 PM (FTXAT)

609 Moore by 103%.
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Piker!

Posted by: zombie saddam at December 12, 2017 09:11 PM (QCX64)

610 Cooking Fire At A Homeless Encampment Sparked Bel Air Blaze That Destroyed Homes, Officials Say

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 09:11 PM (BoMuO)

611 Are The Young Turks still in business? I'm hoping for another melt down video from them.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 12, 2017 09:11 PM (0ogQG)

612 The DOJ would have to investigate past actions.

Posted by: Side draft at December 12, 2017 09:05 PM (ohP/V)

++++

The DOJ only investigates federal crimes. Nobody has even alleged that Moore committed a federal crime. If you believe everything sad by his accusers, it's still just state crimes at issue, and the statute of limitations has already run.

McConnell said it was going to Ethics, so I would make a real money wager that it will go there.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 09:12 PM (FUu/Z)

613 586 Is it Enterprise, Alabama that has the statue of the boll weevil?

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 09:08 PM (GsAUU)

---

Sounds right. Either them or Dothan.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 09:12 PM (T4n7S)

614 Fox reporting Moore 52% Jones 46.7%, 32% in

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 09:12 PM (gYAkw)

615 NYT is calling ANYTHING

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 12, 2017 09:12 PM (y3aQB)

616 I love the photoshop of their panel doing "Hands up! Don't shoot!" with the card changed to "Praise Kek"


I missed something. Could someone 'splain it to me what Kek is?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 12, 2017 09:12 PM (tRaq7)

617 611 Are The Young Turks still in business? I'm hoping for another melt down video from them.
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 12, 2017 09:11 PM (0ogQG)

Cenk is sweating huge drops of bacon grease right now I bet.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 12, 2017 09:12 PM (NWiLs)

618 NY Times went from thinking Jones led the remaining one million votes by 1%, to thinking Jones leads the remaining 979,000 votes by 3.3% and give him 66% chance of winning.

Not sure how they can swing it that much based on so few extra votes coming in. Guess we have to wait.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2017 09:12 PM (otAqJ)

619 The cop was a lazy asshat and I had a conversation with his sergeant who was only slightly better. The insurance and repair were all stress free.
Posted by: Weasel
----------

LEO are not very good accident investigators. I spent some time in the business and can make that assertion based on experience. They pretty much take accounts, and reach conclusions, without any serious consideration of physical evidence.

In fairness, it's not really expected to be in their skill set.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2017 09:12 PM (leCj4)

620 Is it Enterprise, Alabama that has the statue of the boll weevil?

Yep

Posted by: Hawkpilot at December 12, 2017 09:12 PM (fqHZs)

621 I'm reporting on MSNBC for the Horde because I feel like someone must be forced to endure it for the group.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at December 12, 2017 09:12 PM (ubJwS)

622 586
Is it Enterprise, Alabama that has the statue of the boll weevil?
Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 09:08 PM (GsAUU)

Yes. It 2was a high school senior tradition to steal the boll weevil every year. I think they had to pass a law.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 12, 2017 09:13 PM (rnXGe)

623 >>Cooking Fire At A Homeless Encampment Sparked Bel Air Blaze That Destroyed Homes, Officials Say


Accidental, I am sure.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 09:13 PM (RzgQJ)

624 601
NYT is calling it for Jones by 2.7% with 30% of the precincts in.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 12, 2017 09:10 PM (+Dllb)
Hopefully, they will soon be wailing and gnashing their teeth like they did that fateful November evening last year.

Posted by: Peaches at December 12, 2017 09:13 PM (14URa)

625 NYT - 76% Jones

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at December 12, 2017 09:13 PM (xQfPr)

626 587 In the midnight hour
She Cried Moore! Moore! Moore!
-------
With a Rebel yell
Moore, Moore, Moore, Moore Moore Moore!!

Posted by: exdem13 at December 12, 2017 09:13 PM (W+kMI)

627 Ok you guys got me to go look at CNN and Madcow. That was fun.

But it's still kinda early.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2017 09:13 PM (V2Yro)

628 >>This isn't a gotcha because I don't keep up with their casual work schedules, but do they work all of next week or are they scheduled to call it quits around Wednesday or so for Christmas?

It's never really cut in stone. Obamacare passed the Senate on Christmas Eve in 2009 and they had 60 votes.

This is at that level for Republicans. They aren't going home either before the end of the year without passing this bill.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2017 09:13 PM (/tuJf)

629 I had this perfect pair of Levi's that had very trendy holes in the knees. When the mom laundered my clothes she patched both holes, thereby destroying whatever fasion value they had. I'm pretty sure she thought I was impoverished.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2017 09:11 PM (EZebt)

---

Jeans have to last years down here.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 09:14 PM (T4n7S)

630 LEO are not very good accident investigators. I spent some time in the business and can make that assertion based on experience. They pretty much take accounts, and reach conclusions, without any serious consideration of physical evidence.

In fairness, it's not really expected to be in their skill set.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2017 09:12 PM (leCj4)

If your dog's in the car they'll shoot it, but that's about it.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 12, 2017 09:14 PM (NWiLs)

631 616. Here's a video explaining it all:
https://youtu.be/J934YnNMuQA

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 09:14 PM (fA1SL)

632 In the midnight hour
She Cried Moore! Moore! Moore!
-------
With a Rebel yell
Moore, Moore, Moore, Moore Moore Moore!!

Posted by: exdem13 at December 12, 2017 09:13 PM (W+kMI)


They were big fans of Roger?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2017 09:14 PM (SiINZ)

633 Moore up 8 with 25% of vote in, huge numbers of rural counties out.

Larry Schweikart (@LarrySchweikart) December 13, 2017

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 12, 2017 09:14 PM (y3aQB)

634 >>But it's still kinda early.

Turn on CNN. They've been talking the for the last 10 minutes as if it is a done deal for Moore even before being called.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2017 09:15 PM (/tuJf)

635 >>Seems like record turn out of black voters sort of negates the whole "voter fraud keeps blacks from voting" line.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

They're not black!!
They're racist republicans in blackface!!

Posted by: Progressive Loon at December 12, 2017 09:15 PM (2cuLk)

636 super sekret draft of Jones' concession speech:

"My friends, our moral victory today resonates. We won the hearts and minds of voters in New York, Los Angles and..other places. I want to thank my anonymous supporter George Soros ( his PACs) for dumping millions into my coffers. Maybe someday I will pay him back - in kindness. I am not a pedo nor did I stay at the Holiday Inn. Viva La France ! "

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2017 09:15 PM (QC/4S)

637 630 If your dog's in the car they'll shoot it, but that's about it.

IT WAS COMING STRAIGHT FOR ME!!!!!11!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at December 12, 2017 09:15 PM (N6CVU)

638 Basically, the NYT is saying that, as usual, the Rep districts have reported and the Dem districts haven't yet so Jones will win.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at December 12, 2017 09:15 PM (xQfPr)

639 40% in at top of this page

Moore 51
Jones 46

Posted by: Bill Wynn's Undies at December 12, 2017 09:15 PM (3myMJ)

640 I want Gloria Allred sobbing into her Thorazine tonight.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 12, 2017 09:15 PM (NWiLs)

641 What on earth is NYT smoking?

Posted by: sunny-dee at December 12, 2017 09:16 PM (QAOZh)

642 Dilly, dilly!

Posted by: IrishEi at December 12, 2017 09:16 PM (HiDrR)

643 The AL sec of state site is Moore 62%, Jones 36%

Posted by: notsothoreau at December 12, 2017 09:16 PM (5HBd1)

644 Is it Enterprise, Alabama that has the statue of the boll weevil?

The Boll Weevil destroyed the cotton crop, causing the locals to change to raising peanuts, which was much more profitable.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at December 12, 2017 09:16 PM (fqHZs)

645 The DOJ only investigates federal crimes. Nobody has
even alleged that Moore committed a federal crime. If you believe
everything sad by his accusers, it's still just state crimes at issue,
and the statute of limitations has already run.



McConnell said it was going to Ethics, so I would make a real money wager that it will go there.



Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 09:12 PM (FUu/Z)

McConnell also said that he wouldn't seat Moore if he won when he literally cannot constitutionally do that so... I take what McConnell says with a huge grain of salt. And I still think it is as likely that he is behind the hit jobs on Moore as it is the Democrats are.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 09:16 PM (FTXAT)

646 As of now, that NYTimes link has Jones at a 77% chance of winning. I kid you not. This is weird.

Posted by: RickZ at December 12, 2017 09:16 PM (BIsma)

647 I cannot see Maddow's face, much less hear her speak, without feeling an unspeakable revulsion.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2017 09:16 PM (leCj4)

648 McConnell said it was going to Ethics, so I would make a real money wager that it will go there.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 09:12 PM (FUu/Z)

----

That would be a huge mistake on his part because Senate rules do not permit investigation of activities of someine who was not a sitting Senator at the time of the allegations.

I'm not quite sure how I can make this any clearer to you.

Posted by: Side draft at December 12, 2017 09:17 PM (ohP/V)

649 americandigest.org


Wow, that was powerful!

Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2017 09:17 PM (EGFUD)

650 Jones wins Ford County, Buick County and Oldsmobile County.

Posted by: Mega at December 12, 2017 09:17 PM (rv0Fo)

651 >> I cannot see Maddow's face, much less hear her speak, without feeling an unspeakable revulsion.


Sweep The Leg!

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 09:17 PM (RzgQJ)

652 Nobody has even alleged that Moore committed a federal crime. If you believe everything sad by his accusers, it's still just state crimes at issue, and the statute of limitations has already run.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 09:12 PM (FUu/Z)
---
From one legal expert I heard, he said the case for any crime is weak. Because in the most believable of scenarios, he asked a young girl's parents to court her. And even in the least likely, he relented on each occasion.

It's creepy for a grown man to strip down to his skivvies with a 14-year-old. But as nothing is alleged to have happened other than some touching, and driving home when she protested. There's little there to prosecute.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2017 09:17 PM (vDqXW)

653 646
As of now, that NYTimes link has Jones at a 77% chance of winning. I kid you not. This is weird.

Posted by: RickZ at December 12, 2017 09:16 PM (BIsma)
Do they have that little wheelie gizmo they used last November? That was fun. Hillary was a shoe-in right up until Trump won.

Posted by: Peaches at December 12, 2017 09:17 PM (14URa)

654
I saw Unspeakable Revulsion open for Slayer at the Cow Palace back in '05.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 12, 2017 09:17 PM (eXA4G)

655 Basically, the NYT is saying that, as usual, the Rep
districts have reported and the Dem districts haven't yet so Jones will
win.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at December 12, 2017 09:15 PM (xQfPr)

It doesn't seem like that is true. Birmingham, for instance, has already reported.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 09:17 PM (FTXAT)

656 I appreciate Hannity mentioning Mo Brooks - that's who I always wished would have won the primary.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2017 09:18 PM (V2Yro)

657 >>Dilly, dilly!

You just made me wake the dog.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2017 09:18 PM (/tuJf)

658 As of now, that NYTimes link has Jones at a 77% chance of winning. I kid you not. This is weird.
Posted by: RickZ

__________

I saw that and I'm thinking that's a really terrible sign for Moore unless someone can give a reasonable explanation.

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 09:18 PM (uc45P)

659 Okay, I can't watch the BuzzFeed clowns anymore. Sadly, I'm finding MSNBC more professional. More delusional, too.

Posted by: Grimaldi at December 12, 2017 09:18 PM (CeQH1)

660 'Ettes - victory boob pics mandatory
'Rons - get those pudding cups ready

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 09:18 PM (fA1SL)

661 Maddow should not be on TeeVee. She has some kind of a speech impairment.

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2017 09:18 PM (QC/4S)

662 That would be a huge mistake on his part because Senate rules do not permit investigation of activities of someine who was not a sitting Senator at the time of the allegations.

I'm not quite sure how I can make this any clearer to you.

Posted by: Side draft at December 12, 2017 09:17 PM (ohP/V)

++++

Subsequent events will prove you wrong.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 09:18 PM (pvjTE)

663 Hillary

Posted by: Mega at December 12, 2017 09:18 PM (rv0Fo)

664
McConnell said it was going to Ethics, so I would make a real money wager that it will go there.
------------

Curiously, Menendez was indicted, charged, arrested, and tried...and yet, no talk of an ethics investigation.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2017 09:18 PM (leCj4)

665 622 586
Is it Enterprise, Alabama that has the statue of the boll weevil?
Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 09:08 PM (GsAUU)

Yes. It 2was a high school senior tradition to steal the boll weevil every year. I think they had to pass a law.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 12, 2017 09:13 PM (rnXGe)

--Thanks. I knew it wasn't Dothan, since I've been there.

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 09:18 PM (GsAUU)

666 Another fun fact:

The statue of Vulcan in Birmingham (largest cast iron statue in the world IIRC) used to have a light that would burn red when there was a road fatality.

Stopped it in the 70s or 80s because it burned red day and night.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 09:18 PM (T4n7S)

667 Hag

Posted by: Mega at December 12, 2017 09:19 PM (rv0Fo)

668 Fox reporting Moore 52.4%, Jones 46.2%, 35% in

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 09:19 PM (gYAkw)

669 Damn

Posted by: Mega at December 12, 2017 09:19 PM (rv0Fo)

670 White women w/ college degree: 54 43% Moore
White women no college degree: 74 24% Moore

They didn't buy what Moore's accusers were selling and/or didn't care. The Dems don't realize they forfeited the moral high ground on the prevnado issue and will not change that anytime soon.

Posted by: SMOD Keeper at December 12, 2017 09:19 PM (sFMtO)

671 'Cooking Fire At A Homeless Encampment Sparked Bel Air Blaze That Destroyed Homes, Officials Say ''

That meth ain't gonna cook itself.

Posted by: Some crazed lunatic woman at December 12, 2017 09:19 PM (UdKB7)

672 It is over horde members ~ none of these numbers point to a Jones win ~ it is all still agreeing with my prediction of Moore 7% to 10% ~ I am settling on Moore by 8%. Final.

Pax Ex

Posted by: Publius Redux at December 12, 2017 09:19 PM (0YSzp)

673 >> Maddow should not be on TeeVee. She has some kind of a speech impairment.


Her mouth is painfully off-center.

Also, she has more Moles than Cleavage.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 09:19 PM (RzgQJ)

674 >> "641
What on earth is the NYT smoking?"

Apparently (as on election night a year ago) the Times is going to continue to spin right up to the point when they can't anymore.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at December 12, 2017 09:19 PM (ZZdXT)

675 The NYT is counting on big turnout in heavy Dem urban areas.

And vote fraud. But mostly vote fraud.

Posted by: Eric Idol Decision Desk at December 12, 2017 09:19 PM (oVJmc)

676 645
I take what McConnell says with a huge grain of salt. And I still think it is as likely that he is behind the hit jobs on Moore as it is the Democrats are.
Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 09:16 PM (FTXAT)


I think it's more likely that McConnell was behind it. He and McCain right off the bat demanded that Moore drop out as soon as the first allegations surfaced.

Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2017 09:19 PM (sdi6R)

677 redbanzai at December 12, 2017 09:17 PM (FTXAT)

Look at the estimated votes remaining. Birmingham still has a ton out...they think.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at December 12, 2017 09:19 PM (xQfPr)

678 It's creepy for a grown man to strip down to his
skivvies with a 14-year-old. But as nothing is alleged to have happened
other than some touching, and driving home when she protested. There's
little there to prosecute.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2017 09:17 PM (vDqXW)

That is assuming the 14 year old's (now 55 year old's) story was credible and backed by anything. It is not.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 09:19 PM (FTXAT)

679 jeez, wtf is going on? On Fox, Hannity sounds like Moore already lost. Tammy Bruce is going on about how the GOP really wants to lose this seat. People here are still talking like he's a shoo-in. This is confusing as hell.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V. at December 12, 2017 09:20 PM (P8951)

680 Maddow should not be on TeeVee. She has some kind of a speech impairment.
Posted by: runner
-----------

You must be a h8er.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2017 09:20 PM (leCj4)

681 The Times link is now down to Jones at 75% chance of winning. As odd as it sounds, that makes me feel better.

Posted by: RickZ at December 12, 2017 09:20 PM (BIsma)

682 NYT projects 75% Jones wins it.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2017 09:20 PM (vDqXW)

683
NY Slimes pages updates a lot. It went from Jones predicted winner to Jones has the advantage, but Moore has paths to victory to If they had to guess Jones has the advantage but it's close.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2017 09:20 PM (SiINZ)

684 The NYT thing we loved so much from last election per request.

http://nyti.ms/2BfF7vl

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 09:20 PM (BLayO)

685 I appreciate Hannity mentioning Mo Brooks - that's who I always wished would have won the primary.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2017 09:18 PM (V2Yro)


Yep, and that's who McConnell torched during the first round of the primary figuring Moore would be easy to beat. In fairness to Mitch, Mo was campaigning on the "I'll vote the turtle out of leadership" platform.

Posted by: mugiwara at December 12, 2017 09:20 PM (pFSBP)

686 Hash. LOlL Even the buzzed folks are making fun of the NYT "meter" ~~~ ah lol. That is awesome.

Hahhhhhhahahahahahahahh!

Posted by: Publius Redux at December 12, 2017 09:21 PM (0YSzp)

687 On CNN's map most of the counties not yet reporting are blue counties...

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 09:21 PM (gYAkw)

688 Apparently (as on election night a year ago) the Times is going to continue to spin right up to the point when they can't anymore.
Posted by: Anonymous 7
++++++


I hate the NYT, but from my memory that meter was a pretty good bellwhether on Election Night

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 09:21 PM (uc45P)

689 Her mouth is painfully off-center.

Also, she has more Moles than Cleavage.

==

so...like a Picasso painting come alive ?

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2017 09:21 PM (QC/4S)

690 That is assuming the 14 year old's (now 55 year old's) story was credible and backed by anything. It is not.
Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 09:19 PM (FTXAT)
---
I didn't assume anything. It's based on the scenario only.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2017 09:21 PM (vDqXW)

691 I smell the dank odor of Soros trolls.

Posted by: Under Fire at December 12, 2017 09:21 PM (r9UYA)

692 The Boll Weevil destroyed the cotton crop, causing the locals to change to raising peanuts, which was much more profitable.
Posted by: Hawkpilot at December 12, 2017 09:16 PM (fqHZs)

--I learned the backstory from a book I had in thurd grade, something like Fun Facts About the 50 States.

Wasn't 100% sure of the town.

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 09:21 PM (GsAUU)

693 I've got to admit that I'm nervous as all get out.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at December 12, 2017 09:21 PM (xQfPr)

694 You just made me wake the dog.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2017 09:18 PM
~~~~~

Posted by: IrishEi at December 12, 2017 09:21 PM (HiDrR)

695 Also, she has more Moles than Cleavage.
Posted by: garrett
-------

Why would a boy have cleavage?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2017 09:21 PM (leCj4)

696 There's no widget percentages thingies over at the decision desk!
ITS THE RUSSIANS!

Posted by: HR at December 12, 2017 09:22 PM (G/8lp)

697

You must be a h8er.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2017 09:20 PM (leCj4)

==

impartial observer, sir

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2017 09:22 PM (QC/4S)

698 Curiously, Menendez was indicted, charged, arrested, and tried...and yet, no talk of an ethics investigation.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2017 09:18 PM (leCj4)

And that is not even counting the underage prostitutes. Whose services he procured while he was a sitting Senator.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 09:22 PM (FTXAT)

699 If we declare Jones the winner now, it'll mean Moore stole the election when all the votes are counted and he's inevitably the winner.

Brilliant!!!


**clanks glasses of Guinness**

Posted by: the NYT at December 12, 2017 09:22 PM (WlG0e)

700 Looks like Jones is going to win. The Dem strongholds have yet to be counted and the separation is very narrow.

The good news, watch how the markets react and maybe the public will learn not to vote commie.

Posted by: Bob at December 12, 2017 09:22 PM (y8zZb)

701 Don't blame me. I wrote in Kang.

Posted by: Kodos at December 12, 2017 09:22 PM (H8S+R)

702 Curiously, Menendez was indicted, charged, arrested, and tried...and yet, no talk of an ethics investigation.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2017 09:18 PM (leCj4)

++++

The Dems won't cooperate with McConnell if he wants to go after a Dem. Curiously (heh), they will show no such reluctance if he wants to target a Rep.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 09:22 PM (FUu/Z)

703 684
The NYT thing we loved so much from last election per request.

http://nyti.ms/2BfF7vl


Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 09:20 PM (BLayO)
You rock so hard, dave . . . thank you!

Posted by: Peaches at December 12, 2017 09:22 PM (14URa)

704 688
I hate the NYT, but from my memory that meter was a pretty good bellwhether on Election Night
Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 09:21 PM (uc45P)


Yes it was. It steadily shifted to Trump over the course of the night.

Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2017 09:23 PM (sdi6R)

705 Her mouth is painfully off-center.
----------------

Curiously, so was Barney Frank's.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2017 09:23 PM (leCj4)

706 >> Looks like Jones is going to win. The Dem strongholds have yet to be counted and the separation is very narrow.


Duly noted, Bob.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 09:23 PM (RzgQJ)

707 The NYT algo seems off.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 09:23 PM (g4lFK)

708 Strange stays seated for the tax vote.

Posted by: redenzo at December 12, 2017 09:23 PM (5wSNN)

709 Faux News brings in the Uniparty mouthpieces.
God I despise them

Posted by: some friggin dope at December 12, 2017 09:23 PM (6OUNd)

710 589 The rural voters came out of the pines like the Fremen came out of the desert and Moore is their Atredes with his killing word.

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.


Posted by: Beltway Elite at December 12, 2017 09:23 PM (+a3Rc)

711 If Jones is doing well, you would never know by CNN's coverage.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2017 09:23 PM (/tuJf)

712 Katherine Miller says "like" way too much.

Posted by: mark1971 at December 12, 2017 09:23 PM (xPl2J)

713 46% of precincts reporting, Moore up 52.0 to 46.7% Times says Moore now has a 90% chance of winning.

Posted by: RickZ at December 12, 2017 09:23 PM (BIsma)

714 NYT - 86% Jones

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at December 12, 2017 09:24 PM (xQfPr)

715 The Bill Wynns have not learned their lesson yet.

Posted by: SMOD Keeper at December 12, 2017 09:24 PM (sFMtO)

716 I we REALLY want to know how this is going to go, we should just ask Obama.

Then just assume he's wrong.

Posted by: Optimizer at December 12, 2017 09:24 PM (EnK/R)

717 He's not outpacing the margin of fraud, so that's not a good sign...

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 09:24 PM (yXU4O)

718 --Thanks. I knew it wasn't Dothan, since I've been there.
Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 09:18 PM (GsAUU)

Enterprise is where a lot of people stationed at Ft. Rucker live. I grew up there. My sister graduated from Enterprise High School and I tagged along to steal it once. Same high school that was wiped out by tornados a few years ago killing a bunch of students.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 12, 2017 09:24 PM (rnXGe)

719 Think this is over. Thanks GOPe for nothing

Posted by: Fort Collins Lurker at December 12, 2017 09:24 PM (yGY/h)

720 Moore's lead is sliding.....

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2017 09:24 PM (vDqXW)

721 This is awful, Alabama is really going to elect a democrat?

We are well and truly fucked.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 09:24 PM (+dsLj)

722 msm won Alabama.
Tax cuts are doa.
And fuck the GOPe

Posted by: #neverskankles at December 12, 2017 09:24 PM (6kIdW)

723 713 46% of precincts reporting, Moore up 52.0 to 46.7% Times says Moore now has a 90% chance of winning.
Posted by: RickZ at December 12, 2017 09:23 PM (BIsma)

714 NYT - 86% Jones
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at December 12, 2017 09:24 PM (xQfPr)


Whaaaaat?

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 09:24 PM (LnOh3)

724 When does Shelby run again? That son of a bitch needs to be primaried.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at December 12, 2017 09:25 PM (AZD0r)

725 Fox News and the Hannity panel are talking like Moore lost.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V. at December 12, 2017 09:25 PM (P8951)

726 So, I have been busy this evening thus far, how is this going?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 12, 2017 09:25 PM (ZgKFD)

727 I we REALLY want to know how this is going to go, we should just ask Obama.

Then just assume he's wrong.


Did Shit-Midas weigh in on this one?

Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2017 09:25 PM (TYOIW)

728 713 46% of precincts reporting, Moore up 52.0 to 46.7% Times says Moore now has a 90% chance of winning.

Posted by: RickZ at December 12, 2017 09:23 PM (BIsma)

714 NYT - 86% Jones

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at December 12, 2017 09:24 PM (xQfPr)


Gotta love this place....

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 09:25 PM (Enq6K)

729 90% Jones...the votes are cast so there's nothing we can do but I fucking HATE the GOPe.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at December 12, 2017 09:25 PM (xQfPr)

730 [R] M 51%- [D]J 48%- 48% in.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 12, 2017 09:25 PM (e8kgV)

731 now with 777k remaining, NY Times thinks Jones leads that group by 16.3% ... no idea how they change that so drastically ... it was 1% Joses estimated lead when there was one million left.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2017 09:25 PM (otAqJ)

732 The Macedonian Content Farmers are out in full force.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 09:25 PM (RzgQJ)

733 723 713 46% of precincts reporting, Moore up 52.0 to 46.7% Times says Moore now has a 90% chance of winning.
Posted by: RickZ at December 12, 2017 09:23 PM (BIsma)

714 NYT - 86% Jones
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at December 12, 2017 09:24 PM (xQfPr)


Whaaaaat?
Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 09:24 PM (LnOh3)


This is confusing.

Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2017 09:25 PM (sdi6R)

734 Correction: Jones @ 80%

Posted by: RickZ at December 12, 2017 09:26 PM (BIsma)

735 Pretty much called for Jones... Alabama gets what they deserve i guess

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2017 09:26 PM (O2RFr)

736 Birmingham has not reported yet, heavily black.

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 09:26 PM (gYAkw)

737 Times says Moore now has a 90% chance of winning.

Uh, they said Jones.

And now it dropped to 80%.

They've got a volatile algorithm.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 12, 2017 09:26 PM (oVJmc)

738 510 @Don Q.

Not quite, here in Ohio (and I suspect in other states) the Tea Party is a gaggle of independent cells with one common goal... bringing down the OH GOPe, from the bottom up.

It's a long-term project, and, they're wining.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at December 12, 2017 09:26 PM (W+kMI)

739 The NYT spinner was calling a Trump win early on election night.

Posted by: #neverskankles at December 12, 2017 09:26 PM (6kIdW)

740 We lost, the noise from the left is going to be insufferable and endless now.

Thanks Alabama!

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 09:26 PM (+dsLj)

741 Cavuto just said FOX Business is getting ready to call it for Jones.

grrrrrrrrrrr

Posted by: IrishEi at December 12, 2017 09:26 PM (HiDrR)

742 90% Jones...the votes are cast so there's nothing we can do but I fucking HATE the GOPe.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at December 12, 2017 09:25 PM (xQfPr)
It's the NYT. When was the last time they were right? About anything?

Posted by: Peaches at December 12, 2017 09:26 PM (14URa)

743 I see 50% of the votes are in and Moore is winning by a slight margin. Does anyone know which way the outstanding precincts lean? Dem or GOP?

Posted by: tinkerbella at December 12, 2017 09:27 PM (Rd2Pf)

744 Note to self: buy moar ammo.

Posted by: Adobe Juan Kenobe at December 12, 2017 09:27 PM (PYkFk)

745 even though I'm dead, I smell Bill Wynn

Posted by: zombie Ed Lee ( butt assassin ) at December 12, 2017 09:27 PM (Co9e8)

746 Subsequent events will prove you wrong.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 09:18 PM (pvjTE)

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Uummm....no. Mc Chinless may actually be dumb enough to actually try this, but he will not have any legal basis whatsoever to see it through.

Moore's attorneys will shred it in one Court appearance.

So sorry you will never get your apparent wish.

Posted by: Side draft at December 12, 2017 09:27 PM (ohP/V)

747 From Nate Cohn on the NY Times numbers: "Folks, our model thinks that the GOP may have a big turnout problem.
The three, white, GOP counties have fallen far short of our turnout estimates--including two under 75% of our estimates.
That's what the big swing in our estimate is about."

Posted by: CDR M at December 12, 2017 09:27 PM (EkJOK)

748 Peaches

More than just the NYT is calling it for Jones

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2017 09:27 PM (O2RFr)

749 McConnell can't wait to shove this in everyone's faces and say that now we'll HAVE to pass Amnesty.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 09:27 PM (yXU4O)

750 CNN seems glum and basically tossed in the towel for Moore... I'm confused.

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 09:27 PM (gYAkw)

751 You would have zero idea that Jones has a chance in hell if watching CNN.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 09:27 PM (g4lFK)

752 Enterprise is where a lot of people stationed at Ft. Rucker live. I grew up there. My sister graduated from Enterprise High School and I tagged along to steal it once. Same high school that was wiped out by tornados a few years ago killing a bunch of students.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 12, 2017 09:24 PM (rnXGe)

--Never been to Enterprise.

Why did I go to Dothan?

I was in Tallahassee at the time and Alabama allowed the sale of way cooler fireworks than Florida.

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 09:27 PM (GsAUU)

753 When it looks bleak, just remember that the Dems are counting on young brainwashed people to actually VOTE.

In a Special Election.

At Christmas.

Posted by: Optimizer at December 12, 2017 09:27 PM (EnK/R)

754 Honestly, I would have voted for Moore if I had to, but we need to stop rallying around retards because we hope it makes some mystical "Establishment" angry.

Even before the underage stuff (which Moore himself admitted) the guy was saying some really messed up shit.

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 09:27 PM (uc45P)

755 Peaches, the NY Times was right on election night 2016

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V. at December 12, 2017 09:28 PM (P8951)

756 Correction: Jones @ 80%

Posted by: RickZ at December 12, 2017 09:26 PM (BIsma)

With Moore up over 6% in actual votes counted? That makes no sense.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 09:28 PM (FTXAT)

757 This is NOT referendum on Alabama going liberal (I live in Alabama). It's not a referendum on Trump. It's not a referendum on Doug Jones. It's a referendum on Roy Moore. And he failed. He should have NEVER been the nominee.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at December 12, 2017 09:28 PM (3ufaJ)

758 725 Fox News and the Hannity panel are talking like Moore lost.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V. at December 12, 2017 09:25 PM (P8951)

--Yeah, they're pissing me off.

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 09:28 PM (GsAUU)

759 OT - did i hear right? Fox has the Strzok text msgs?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 12, 2017 09:28 PM (fA1SL)

760 You're right, I'm mis-remebering about the Times meter from last year; lumping that in with the network anchors and pundits who were still spinning until late that night.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at December 12, 2017 09:28 PM (ZZdXT)

761 With Moore up over 6% in actual votes counted? That makes no sense.

It's the outstanding Counties

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2017 09:28 PM (O2RFr)

762 Geneva county went from 0% reporting to 100%-- 80% for Moore.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 12, 2017 09:28 PM (oVJmc)

763 739 The NYT spinner was calling a Trump win early on election night.
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 12, 2017 09:26 PM (6kIdW)


As I recall it, it started out for Hillary and steadily moved towards Trump as the night progressed.

Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2017 09:28 PM (sdi6R)

764 747 From Nate Cohn on the NY Times numbers: "Folks, our model thinks that the GOP may have a big turnout problem.
The three, white, GOP counties have fallen far short of our turnout estimates--including two under 75% of our estimates.
That's what the big swing in our estimate is about."
Posted by: CDR M at December 12, 2017 09:27 PM (EkJOK)

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Models can't be wrong

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 09:28 PM (LnOh3)

765 Fox news poll was off but correct overall.

Posted by: #neverskankles at December 12, 2017 09:28 PM (Ea0Mm)

766 Biggest mistake of ALL TIME.....Jeff Sessions as AG.

Posted by: Fort Collins Lurker at December 12, 2017 09:28 PM (yGY/h)

767 50% reporting

M: 51

J: 47

Posted by: Bill Wynn's Undies at December 12, 2017 09:29 PM (3myMJ)

768 Right, Grande, so you handed the Dems a big win. looks like you're the retard.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V. at December 12, 2017 09:29 PM (P8951)

769 Something fishy in Montgomery. Why are they holding back?

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 09:29 PM (g4lFK)

770 Honestly, I would have voted for Moore if I had to, but we need to stop rallying around retards because we hope it makes some mystical "Establishment" angry.

****************************

Remember that when we're unable to vote a new SCOTUS judge in because we were one vote short. Thanks for being so principled.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 09:29 PM (+dsLj)

771 @769, fraud, as always.

Posted by: sunny-dee at December 12, 2017 09:29 PM (QAOZh)

772 Thanx Uncle Palp.

I don't get it, but thanx.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 12, 2017 09:29 PM (tRaq7)

773 56% precincts in: Moore up by 6.2% Times gives Jones a 71% chance of winning.

Posted by: RickZ at December 12, 2017 09:29 PM (BIsma)

774 Why did I go to Dothan?

I was in Tallahassee at the time and Alabama allowed the sale of way cooler fireworks than Florida.
Posted by: logprof
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I once wrote a one-act play about a bar in Dothan where I spent an evening.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2017 09:29 PM (leCj4)

775 Something fishy in Montgomery. Why are they holding back?

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 09:29 PM (g4lFK)



Al Franken is driving there with a trunk load of ballots

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2017 09:30 PM (SiINZ)

776 Yep. Sessions was a collosal mistake in so many ways.

Posted by: #neverskankles at December 12, 2017 09:30 PM (Ea0Mm)

777 They've counted Montgomery County where all the city votes are didn't they? That's not going to help Jones.

Peaches, the NY Times was right on election night 2016

Um, kinda. Eventually. It took them a long time to get there, though.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 09:30 PM (39g3+)

778
So they are holding Birmingham tallies until they can manufacture enough votes to defeat Moore.


Posted by: Johnny Twelves Evon at December 12, 2017 09:30 PM (KdDCu)

779 Even before the underage stuff (which Moore himself admitted) the guy was saying some really messed up shit.

------

Like what?

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 09:30 PM (LnOh3)

780 Seriously, though. 48/51 doesn't really seem like that's gonna do it for Moore.

Posted by: Optimizer at December 12, 2017 09:30 PM (EnK/R)

781 Seriously, if you told me a year ago that a 70 year old guy who was accused of sexual harassment by like 6 women, was opposed by virtually every elected Republican even the other Senator in his state and rode a freaking horse to vote had actually won I would have asked for a hit.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2017 09:30 PM (/tuJf)

782 766 Biggest mistake of ALL TIME.....Jeff Sessions as AG.
Posted by: Fort Collins Lurker at December 12, 2017 09:28 PM (yGY/h)

100% correct. Catastrophic mistake.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at December 12, 2017 09:30 PM (AZD0r)

783 The NYT live prediction meter was crazy on the money last election. Despite how bad they slant things, they have the resources and the know how to get and analyze the data.

My problem right now is that I can't get data from the DD. Buzzfeed is killing the meatball.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 09:30 PM (BLayO)

784 747 From Nate Cohn on the NY Times numbers: "Folks, our model thinks that the GOP may have a big turnout problem.
The three, white, GOP counties have fallen far short of our turnout estimates--including two under 75% of our estimates.
That's what the big swing in our estimate is about."
Posted by: CDR M at December 12, 2017 09:27 PM (EkJOK)

--WTF is wrong with them?

Are they not woke [sic]?

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 09:30 PM (GsAUU)

785 >>>Models can't be wrong

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 09:28 PM (LnOh3)<<<

Yeah!

Posted by: Tyra Banks at December 12, 2017 09:30 PM (WlG0e)

786 This gets far worse if Moore loses.

the GOPe will paint this as Trump is a lame duck candidate because he couldn't swing Alabama when OBAMA did and actively work against him now.

The DNC will paint this immediately as showing this as the voters coming out against Trump's sexual aggression and ramp up the sexual ethics assault and the GOPe will capitulate and McConnell will remain senate leader or senate minority leader and he doesn't care either way.

This is very very bad.

Posted by: Skywise at December 12, 2017 09:31 PM (858q0)

787 So they are holding Birmingham tallies until they can manufacture enough votes to defeat Moore.

==

sounds about right

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2017 09:31 PM (QC/4S)

788 Biggest mistake of ALL TIME.....Jeff Sessions as AG.

==============

Yup, should have been Ted Cruz.

Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at December 12, 2017 09:31 PM (2X7pN)

789 What is the deal with the NYT page have a "reported" number that favors Moore and an "estimated" that favors the commie? Are the commie counties holding their votes back?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2017 09:31 PM (Z8FFX)

790 Um, kinda. Eventually. It took them a long time to get there, though.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 09:30 PM (39g3+)
Yes, I remember them being way wrong until quite late.

Posted by: Peaches at December 12, 2017 09:31 PM (14URa)

791 How about we wait for Jones to be winning before we call the election for him?

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 09:31 PM (FTXAT)

792 And now NYT has jones at 68%

Replay time.

Posted by: Exile at December 12, 2017 09:31 PM (Fikbq)

793
Since when does Teh Horde take counsel of our fears? Knock that shit off. It ain't over until it's over.

And if the commie cocksucker comes out on top, we'll fucking deal with it. You know, like adults.

Time to put on our big girl panties.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 12, 2017 09:31 PM (eXA4G)

794 Moore should have been pushed out after that Hannity interview when he admitted he dated high school girls in his 30's.

I couldn't belive how many so called social conservatives on our side thought there was nothing wrong with that.

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 09:31 PM (uc45P)

795 And in other news a Willie Brown protegee beats out a corpse for mayor in the Safeway Produce Section election.

I denounce myself.

Posted by: JEM someday I can comment from my desk again at December 12, 2017 09:31 PM (vBH2i)

796 NYT still holding out for big city vote fraud.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 12, 2017 09:31 PM (oVJmc)

797 Times: Jones down to 68% chance of winning

Posted by: RickZ at December 12, 2017 09:31 PM (BIsma)

798 Trump/Moore 2020:

"Get Money Eff Bitches"

I like the sound of that.

Posted by: Oschisms at December 12, 2017 09:31 PM (Y/y3J)

799 [R] Moore 52%- [D] Jones 46%, 55% votes in.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 12, 2017 09:31 PM (e8kgV)

800 Look for Collins and McCain flip to D now. trump agenda just got anihilated by Alabama. Un fucking real.

Posted by: #neverskankles at December 12, 2017 09:32 PM (Ea0Mm)

801 790: They refused to count PA and OH until they absolutely had to

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2017 09:32 PM (5gaNQ)

802 He should have NEVER been the nominee.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston
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Because, why? Character? Philosophy?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2017 09:32 PM (leCj4)

803
8s8 seconds ago
More
Moore +42,000 (7%) with 58% in

HUGE rural swaths yet to come in

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 12, 2017 09:32 PM (y3aQB)

804 @davedavdavarf they were right *eventually*. It was at least 11pm CT before they started tipping for Trump. They were just there faster than almost everyone else.

Posted by: sunny-dee at December 12, 2017 09:32 PM (QAOZh)

805 how long is this remaining term? 2years ?

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2017 09:32 PM (QC/4S)

806 778 So they are holding Birmingham tallies until they can manufacture enough votes to defeat Moore.

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Bingo. Birmingham will plant a big thumb on the scale for Jones right at the end, just like Philly always does in PA.

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 09:32 PM (gYAkw)

807 AL sec of state still at 61% moore/37% jones

Posted by: notsothoreau at December 12, 2017 09:32 PM (5HBd1)

808 How about we wait for Jones to be winning before we call the election for him?

*nods*

I'm biased though. Moore is crushing Jones in Baldwin County, my county, as expected. Maybe other counties are more fickle.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 09:32 PM (WbIyz)

809 The DNC will paint this immediately as showing this as the voters coming out against Trump's sexual aggression and ramp up the sexual ethics assault and the GOPe will capitulate and McConnell will remain senate leader or senate minority leader and he doesn't care either way.

*****************

Yep, but principles you know. We need to prove we're better people by being dignified in losing.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 09:33 PM (+dsLj)

810 Why are all these assholes from "Alabama" or so they say, suddenly turning up here to troll? if you're sincerely saying you didn't vote for Moore, you're telling me that the WaPo told you to jump and you said how high. nice going, suckers.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V. at December 12, 2017 09:33 PM (P8951)

811 That's what we get for all that Winning early on...

Posted by: Unicon at December 12, 2017 09:33 PM (p42KM)

812 Obama is president: Suck it up, republicans, we won.

Trump is president: Hey, republicans, things are getting too polarized, you need to consider our feelings.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 09:33 PM (BoMuO)

813 Yeesh. Moore is running in the same percentages as the President with less votes in hardcore red districts.

In some he is running twenty points behind. And the count in the cities isn't fully in yet. Testing how full the boxes need to be packed?

Posted by: trev006 at December 12, 2017 09:33 PM (jRA31)

814 @davedavdavarf they were right *eventually*. It was
at least 11pm CT before they started tipping for Trump. They were just
there faster than almost everyone else.


And they started out heavily for the Beest.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 12, 2017 09:33 PM (oVJmc)

815 How are they getting results faster than the Sec of State? hmmmm.

Posted by: Garbone at December 12, 2017 09:33 PM (9dH/8)

816 So strange that this can even be close in a state like Alabama. How did New Yorker Trump stomp Hillary there and they ran practically the same smear campaign against him?

Posted by: mugiwara at December 12, 2017 09:33 PM (pFSBP)

817 Here's what FBN has on screen:

45.7% Jones
52.8% Moore

FOX NEWS VOTER ANALYSIS SHOWS DOUG JONES LEADING ROY MOORE

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 09:33 PM (Enq6K)

818 NYT meter is moving towards toss-up.

Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at December 12, 2017 09:33 PM (wtvvX)

819 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 12, 2017 09:31 PM (eXA4G)

Bravo!

Posted by: NYT at December 12, 2017 09:33 PM (8+Ozj)

820 Moore up 50-48

55% reporting

Posted by: Bill Wynn's Undies at December 12, 2017 09:33 PM (3myMJ)

821 Trump Presidency is over folks. It was good while it lasted. Hillary 2020. Give up now.

Posted by: Mega at December 12, 2017 09:34 PM (rv0Fo)

822 Isn't Dothan the peanut capital or something? I remember a road trip with my daughter and we stopped and I took a picture of her by the sign.

Posted by: Jewells45can handle your jewels at December 12, 2017 09:34 PM (CNHr1)

823 Ray Maddow on the case.

"Voter ID laws mean minorities only get to vote once."

//Ray Maddow if honest

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 09:34 PM (SzZnW)

824 NYT is projecting Jones will win the remaining by 13 points. Sigh.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 09:34 PM (+dsLj)

825 I couldn't belive how many so called social conservatives on our side thought there was nothing wrong with that.
Posted by: Grande
---------------

Okay. What IS wrong with it? Please be expilict.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2017 09:34 PM (leCj4)

826 Moore +47,000 (7.1%) with 62% of the vote in

Rural areas still not coming in much

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 12, 2017 09:34 PM (y3aQB)

827 755 Peaches, the NY Times was right on election night 2016

Is that when they gave Hillary a 90% change to win at the beginning of the night, or 95% Trump at the end of the night? Or a particular point in the middle when they covered every point in between?

Posted by: Grimaldi at December 12, 2017 09:34 PM (CeQH1)

828 62% in, Moore up by 6.1, Jones with a 65% chance of winning. It's gonna be a cliffhanger.

Posted by: RickZ at December 12, 2017 09:34 PM (BIsma)

829 806 Bingo. Birmingham will plant a big thumb on the scale for Jones right at the end, just like Philly always does in PA.
Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 09:32 PM (gYAkw)

The weird thing in 2016, though, was that it was Lancaster County they kept refusing to count in PA.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 09:34 PM (yXU4O)

830 He should have NEVER been the nominee.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston
------------

Because, why? Character? Philosophy?
Posted by: Mike Hammer,

____________

Maybe a guy that says Fags should be locked up is a little out of step?

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 09:34 PM (uc45P)

831 what a bunch of crybabies

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 09:34 PM (LnOh3)

832 794 Moore should have been pushed out after that Hannity interview when he admitted he dated high school girls in his 30's.

I couldn't belive how many so called social conservatives on our side thought there was nothing wrong with that."

One more time - Moore may have done something I don't approve of 40 years ago.

Jones absolutely will work to kill babies tomorrow.

Do I try to get all outraged over what may have been a past problem (although it wasn't a crime), or should I worry about the state sponsored murders that are guaranteed to happen if Jones and his supporters win?

It's not a close call for me at all.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2017 09:34 PM (V2Yro)

833 750 CNN seems glum and basically tossed in the towel for Moore... I'm confused.
Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 09:27 PM (gYAkw)

751 You would have zero idea that Jones has a chance in hell if watching CNN.
Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 09:27 PM (g4lFK)


You guys are really confusing me. Fox is practically ready to drive Jones to Washington themselves.

Posted by: Optimizer at December 12, 2017 09:34 PM (EnK/R)

834 Moore should have been pushed out after that Hannity interview when he admitted he dated high school girls in his 30's.



I couldn't belive how many so called social conservatives on our side thought there was nothing wrong with that.

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 09:31 PM (uc45P)
I think there is nothing wrong with that. Both the teens' parents and the teens said he was nothing but a gentleman on those dates. He found one that was a keeper, married her and as far as I know has been married to her ever since.
The only stories in all of this that would cause me to think less of the man appear not to be true.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 09:35 PM (FTXAT)

835 815
How are they getting results faster than the Sec of State? hmmmm.



Posted by: Garbone at December 12, 2017 09:33 PM (9dH/
I was wondering that, too. Do the precincts report to CNN or the NYT or WaPo and those folks factcheck it before it goes to the SoS?

Posted by: Peaches at December 12, 2017 09:35 PM (14URa)

836 Moore +49,000 (7.2%) with 62% in

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 12, 2017 09:35 PM (y3aQB)

837 how long is this remaining term? 2years ?

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2017 09:32 PM (QC/4S)


Up in 2020, IIRC.

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 12, 2017 09:35 PM (itfg0)

838
Uummm....no. Mc Chinless may actually be dumb enough to actually try this, but he will not have any legal basis whatsoever to see it through.

Moore's attorneys will shred it in one Court appearance.

So sorry you will never get your apparent wish.

Posted by: Side draft at December 12, 2017 09:27 PM (ohP/V)

++++

The courts have no say in how the Senate conducts its business. If they refused to seat Moore at all, something that the constitution requires, then SCOTUS would step in. But, the constitution give the Senate the authority to kick out its members, and it doesn't say anything about only things that happen while the Senator is in office. The Senate makes their own rules, and they decide how to enforce them.

McConnell has called a meeting for tomorrow of all GOP Senators. The purpose of that meeting will be to decide how to deal with Moore. They will find a way to cover their asses. It's going to the ethics committee.

Or wait, maybe you still think DOJ will be involved?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 09:35 PM (FUu/Z)

839 >>>the GOPe will paint this as Trump is a lame duck candidate because he couldn't swing Alabama when OBAMA did and actively work against him now.

Early night for Trump!

Posted by: Max Power at December 12, 2017 09:35 PM (q177U)

840 Nyt meter is down to 65% for jones.

Posted by: Exile at December 12, 2017 09:36 PM (Fikbq)

841 [R] Moore 53%- [D] Jones 46%, 62% votes in.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 12, 2017 09:36 PM (e8kgV)

842 I can't believe Alabama would be this stupid. They gave the left and the GOP-E all the ammunition they need to end Trump.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 09:36 PM (+dsLj)

843 @794, I have very strong opinions on this, but my brother seriously dated and was about to propose to an 18yo when he was 31. (It was after graduation, like that makes a difference.) Then she dumped him, and 3 months later he began dating her best friend and then they got married when she was 20 and he was 33.

Ditto my cousin who banged and later married her college professor her freshman year, two girls I knew at college sleeping with professors, and three girls in high school who got married the summer after graduation to guys ~10 years older.

I'm not saying I don't raise an eyebrow, but 17/18 is hardly a child bride sold for five goats or something.

Posted by: sunny-dee at December 12, 2017 09:36 PM (QAOZh)

844 824 Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 09:34 PM (+dsLj)

If the Republicans are smart enough to allow the media to determine who they vote for or refuse to vote for they deserve everything they get.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 09:36 PM (SzZnW)

845 >> 786
"This gets far worse if Moore loses.



The GOPe will paint this as Trump is a lame duck candidate because
he couldn't swing Alabama when OBAMA did and actively work against him
now.


The DNC will paint this immediately as showing this as the voters
coming out against Trump's sexual aggression and ramp up the sexual
ethics assault and the GOPe will capitulate and McConnell will remain
senate leader or senate minority leader and he doesn't care either way.

This is very very bad."

Yep. Dems will keep running the same playbook every state election, and be further emboldened to use it big-time against Trump.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at December 12, 2017 09:36 PM (ZZdXT)

846 Did I wander into the wrong blog by mistake? I do not recognize many names all of a sudden...

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 12, 2017 09:36 PM (ZgKFD)

847 Can we buy some extra large cans of Troll-B-Gone with some of the cookbook money?

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 12, 2017 09:36 PM (FQKBL)

848 NYT is showing all counties reporting except Dallas county.

Posted by: notsothoreau at December 12, 2017 09:36 PM (5HBd1)

849 where is this nyt meter?

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at December 12, 2017 09:36 PM (hMwEB)

850 >> I can't believe Alabama would be this stupid.



They just haven't been the same since Elvira left.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 09:37 PM (RzgQJ)

851 imagine the reverse situation happening in Mass. think those voters would ever vote for a very conservative Republican instead of the Dem?

Alabama, don't think for a second you'll win the respect of the Coastal elites because of this. they'll still laugh at you and have contempt for how you've been suckered.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V. at December 12, 2017 09:37 PM (P8951)

852 I think there is nothing wrong with that. Both the teens' parents and the teens said he was nothing but a gentleman on those dates. He found one that was a keeper, married her and as far as I know has been married to her ever since.
The only stories in all of this that would cause me to think less of the man appear not to be true.
Posted by: redbanzai

________


Did your dad know what you did on every date?

It's called "jailbait" for a reason, as in they lock men up in jail

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 09:37 PM (uc45P)

853 Been out at Christmas party. So what's happening? Is it Moore?

Posted by: Eromero at December 12, 2017 09:37 PM (zLDYs)

854 I know i'm not around much but are the doom and gloom posters regulars here?

Posted by: navycopjoe at December 12, 2017 09:37 PM (N6CVU)

855 Here's what FBN has on screen:



45.7% Jones

52.8% Moore



FOX NEWS VOTER ANALYSIS SHOWS DOUG JONES LEADING ROY MOORE

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 09:33 PM (Enq6K)

Ummmm??????
One of these things is wrong.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 09:37 PM (FTXAT)

856 Don't forget the GOP pulled campaign funding for Moore almost immediately after the allegations came out. Turning out the vote costs money. They eventually started funding again but not until weeks later.

Posted by: ThomasR at December 12, 2017 09:37 PM (khIpu)

857 Trump at least knows how to hire a damn good lawyer.

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 09:37 PM (GsAUU)

858 Evening everyone. Who's winning?

Posted by: ALH at December 12, 2017 09:37 PM (za7hD)

859 sexual tastes aside - if it was legal in Alabama at the time then he did ... get this... NOTHING ILLEGAL. Is it weird? Yeah. But I like his ideological stance on the issues and, even better, he acts on what he says.

It's not like he's Barney Frank or Ted Kennedy.

Posted by: Skywise at December 12, 2017 09:37 PM (858q0)

860 Moore +7 65%

Posted by: some friggin dope at December 12, 2017 09:38 PM (6OUNd)

861 >>17/18 is hardly a child bride sold for five goats


Five Goats!

For a Bride?

No.

I can give you maybe 1/2 a Goat.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 09:38 PM (RzgQJ)

862 846 Did I wander into the wrong blog by mistake? I do not recognize many names all of a sudden...
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 12, 2017 09:36 PM (ZgKFD)

847 Can we buy some extra large cans of Troll-B-Gone with some of the cookbook money?
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 12, 2017 09:36 PM (FQKBL)

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It's a sad sack convention

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 09:38 PM (LnOh3)

863 I don't see how Roy Moore could win.

Posted by: Stevie Wonder at December 12, 2017 09:38 PM (t3F5b)

864 860: Where?

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2017 09:38 PM (5gaNQ)

865 It's over. Trump is over. Ivanka is over. The Senate lead is over. Taxes are over. The House lead is over. Gorsuch is over. Everyone is over. Don't bother doing anything tonight. It's over.

Posted by: Mega at December 12, 2017 09:38 PM (rv0Fo)

866 822 Isn't Dothan the peanut capital or something? I remember a road trip with my daughter and we stopped and I took a picture of her by the sign.
Posted by: Jewells45can handle your jewels at December 12, 2017 09:34 PM (CNHr1)

--Not sure. Virginia grows a shitload of peanuts as well.

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 09:38 PM (GsAUU)

867 Here you go votermom - https://tinyurl.com/ycpnhywp

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at December 12, 2017 09:38 PM (xQfPr)

868 I was born when my mom was 19, and my dad was 22. 60 years later they're still together.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2017 09:38 PM (V2Yro)

869 Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 12, 2017 09:36 PM (ZgKFD)

Some new folks just "happen" to wander in during an election.

Posted by: NYT at December 12, 2017 09:38 PM (8+Ozj)

870 846 Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 12, 2017 09:36 PM (ZgKFD)

Soros bought the guys day old pizza....

they are getting the Axelbot Band back together.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 09:38 PM (SzZnW)

871 Cnn is actually pretty good tonight.

Posted by: #neverskankles at December 12, 2017 09:38 PM (Ea0Mm)

872 It's not the fags that ought to be locked up, it's the pretenders.

Posted by: the bitch at December 12, 2017 09:38 PM (+lSVr)

873 I couldn't belive how many so called social conservatives on our side thought there was nothing wrong with that.

Many states in the USA think so too, since that's the age of consent. Seriously, I don't like it but clearly the country doesn't have so much of a problem with it until its this judge.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 09:38 PM (39g3+)

874 @847 LOL..yes! Good grief, you know what Trump will say if Jones wins? "You win some, you lose some", and he'll go on. End of his presidency? Hardly.

Posted by: lizabth at December 12, 2017 09:38 PM (p0fBx)

875 Jefferson county is currently going 80%+ Jones and has ~40000 votes still uncounted, enough to put him ahead.

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 09:39 PM (gYAkw)

876 >> I know i'm not around much but are the doom and gloom posters regulars here?


No.

By all means - Feel free to shoot their dogs.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 09:39 PM (RzgQJ)

877 Moore now up 50,700 (7.5%) with 64% in and rural areas just now coming in

Moore +51,000 (7.4%) with 64% in

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 12, 2017 09:39 PM (y3aQB)

878 >>>I don't see how Roy Moore could win.


Posted by: Stevie Wonder at December 12, 2017 09:38 PM (t3F5b)<<<

What?!

Posted by: zombie Helen Keller at December 12, 2017 09:39 PM (WlG0e)

879 867 thanks

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at December 12, 2017 09:39 PM (hMwEB)

880 Moore is only up by 8%. Jones wins. It's over.

Posted by: Mega at December 12, 2017 09:39 PM (rv0Fo)

881 I think about it like this. Suppose Trump is running against Taxajewia, and its neck and neck. Plum tied. Now suppose there is only one county outstanding and it is Shelby County, TN (Memphis).

How would you bet?

I think thats how they do it. Moore might be ahead, but there's a bunch of Jones county precincts out...maybe more than there are Moore precincts.

So Moore can be ahead but we could still bet on Jones to win, depending on whose vote is left to count.

Sorry, I'm not so good at the whole writing thing.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 09:40 PM (BLayO)

882 https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/alabama

-senate-special-election-roy-moore-doug-jones?

smid=fb-share#eln-forecast-section



The meter. Put it all back together.

Posted by: Exile at December 12, 2017 09:40 PM (Fikbq)

883 I can't believe Alabama would be this stupid. They gave the left and the GOP-E all the ammunition they need to end Trump.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 09:36 PM (+dsLj)


The man narrowly won previous statewide races without the entire Skeezy McSkeezeface thing going on.

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 12, 2017 09:40 PM (itfg0)

884 The Wiregrass, Dothan, Enterprise, Daleville, are peanut central. I went to flight school there back in 88.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at December 12, 2017 09:40 PM (fqHZs)

885 Maybe a guy that says Fags should be locked up is a little out of step?
Posted by: Grande
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Did he say that? I've searched "Moore" + your phrase, but find no result. Can you provide a link?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2017 09:40 PM (leCj4)

886 Clearly Hillary will be installed as President tomorrow morning at 11 AM sharp thanks to these results.

Posted by: Not A Troll at December 12, 2017 09:40 PM (gm9yG)

887 Ummmm??????
One of these things is wrong.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 09:37 PM (FTXAT)

Right? Cavuto tried to go into some explanation about the conflicting info, "we have other things we look at which is why you're seeing the 'voter analysis' headline."


Ok, Neil....whatever.

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 09:40 PM (Enq6K)

888
Well, the fat lady still ain't sung.

I was getting ready for her to give us a peggin' while singing, what with the NYT and Hannity gloom, but she ain't started yet.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 12, 2017 09:40 PM (8O3HH)

889 I have this awful feeling I'm watching a mirror image of the 2010 special election in MA that sent Scott Brown (R) to Washington (for 2-years). Ugh.

Posted by: DocJ at December 12, 2017 09:40 PM (7bkOX)

890 Moore pulling away 55,000 (almost 8 points) 65% in

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 12, 2017 09:40 PM (y3aQB)

891 If Moore was losing the trolls wouldn't be here.

Posted by: Iasonas at December 12, 2017 09:40 PM (wVMAv)

892 Did your dad know what you did on every date?



It's called "jailbait" for a reason, as in they lock men up in jail

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 09:37 PM (uc45P)

Those girls were not "jailbait" as they were all over the age of consent when they dated. Even if something of a sexual nature had happened (and why would the women lie about it at this late date... fear of getting grounded?), he could not have gone to jail over it.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 09:40 PM (FTXAT)

893 Faux News has been more CNN than CNN
they must pay

Posted by: some friggin dope at December 12, 2017 09:40 PM (6OUNd)

894
Obama is president: Suck it up, republicans, we won.

Trump is president: Hey, republicans, things are getting too polarized, you need to consider our feelings.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 09:33 PM (BoMuO)








Reminds me of the Searchlight Strangler right after Dubya's re-election. If memory serves, he gave the Donk rebuttal to the next SOTU address. The first two sentences virtually verbatim were "Congratulations on winning re-election, Mr President. Now you need to compromise with us."

And of course, Dubya said "Okey-dokey".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 12, 2017 09:40 PM (eXA4G)

895 Moore? More like "Less". Amirite? Hillary 2020

Posted by: Mega at December 12, 2017 09:40 PM (rv0Fo)

896 875 Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 09:39 PM (gYAkw)

Yup and Madison will save Wisconsin for Grandma.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 09:41 PM (SzZnW)

897 The NYT live prediction meter was crazy on the money last election. Despite how bad they slant things, they have the resources and the know how to get and analyze the data.

It was on the money only after it wasn't.

It was like eleventyhundred percent for Hillary. Then it started to swing the other way, then all of a sudden it was 90% for Trump.

Posted by: blaster at December 12, 2017 09:41 PM (jHrzU)

898 FBN:

65% IN

Moore: 53.3%
Jones: 45.3%

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 09:41 PM (Enq6K)

899 It's a sad sack convention
Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 09:38 PM (LnOh3)


--The ghost of greg

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 09:41 PM (GsAUU)

900 822
Isn't Dothan the peanut capital or something? I remember a road trip
with my daughter and we stopped and I took a picture of her by the sign.
Posted by: Jewells45can handle your jewels at December 12, 2017 09:34 PM (CNHr1)

IIRC Enterprise claimed that too, or at least Coffee County

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 12, 2017 09:41 PM (rnXGe)

901 The Statue of Liberty is kaput!!!

Posted by: trolls over a loudspeaker at December 12, 2017 09:41 PM (WlG0e)

902 If Moore still wins I hope it's a major wake-up call that the biggest enemy we face is the GOP-E. Forget the left, they are small potatoes compared to the shit the establishment is pulling.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 09:41 PM (+dsLj)

903 CNN now says it's a tossup

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 09:41 PM (gYAkw)

904 Isn't Dothan the peanut capital or something? I remember a road trip with my daughter and we stopped and I took a picture of her by the sign.

Huntsville was once known as the Watercress capital of the world.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 12, 2017 09:41 PM (tRaq7)

905 Why troll at this point?

Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at December 12, 2017 09:41 PM (wtvvX)

906 45/54, with over half the vote in?

That's starting to sound like a steep hill for Jones to climb.

Posted by: Optimizer at December 12, 2017 09:41 PM (EnK/R)

907 890 Moore pulling away 55,000 (almost 8 points) 65% in
Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 12, 2017 09:40 PM (y3aQB)

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Wow. The more vote coming in the greater the Moore lead. Who woulda thunk it.

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 09:41 PM (LnOh3)

908 Times now has Jones at 62%, which is toss-up territory.

Posted by: RickZ at December 12, 2017 09:41 PM (BIsma)

909 Will Jones be seated right away, ie before the tax cut final vote?

Posted by: #neverskankles at December 12, 2017 09:41 PM (9d67L)

910 891 If Moore was losing the trolls wouldn't be here.
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Posted by: willy at December 12, 2017 09:41 PM (puf6g)

911 This is why I just went to bed at 8:30 on election night last year. I am just not the kind of person who can stomach this type of rollercoaster ride. Too stressful.

Posted by: cfo mom at December 12, 2017 09:41 PM (RfzVr)

912 Posted by: some friggin dope at December 12, 2017 09:40 PM (6OUNd)
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Fox News was all in on McCain in the primaries in 2008. They have been cucked for a longass time. Fuck them.

Posted by: Mega at December 12, 2017 09:42 PM (rv0Fo)

913 840 Nyt meter is down to 65% for jones.

Posted by: Exile at December 12, 2017 09:36 PM (Fikbq)


It's looking a lot like 2016.

Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2017 09:42 PM (sdi6R)

914 Many states in the USA think so too, since that's the age of consent. Seriously, I don't like it but clearly the country doesn't have so much of a problem with it until its this judge.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

_________

Clearly they DO have a problem with it, even in a state that went Trump by over 20 points.

My guess is you don't have kids. I have daughters. If a man in his 30s was prowling around for high school aged girls he'd find himself eating through a straw.

It doesn't mean I vote Democrat but that admission by Moore should have pushed him out.

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 09:42 PM (uc45P)

915 Is it weird? Yeah.

The thing is, for the last 50 years, the Democrats have put a festival of freaks, perverts, lunatics, and goofballs into congress without a shred of shame or concern. You can list them all in your head without needing any help.

So the Republicans have one guy that's a bit off... 40 years ago? Meh. Add another 40 and we have maybe a push. I can't stand this "they're too weird!!" thing that comes up about Republicans.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 09:42 PM (39g3+)

916 I dated a 30 something year old guy when I was 17. He brought me roses on our first date and drove an awesome car. We went for a steak dinner.

What does that make me?

Posted by: OldDominionMom at December 12, 2017 09:42 PM (GzDYP)

917 Hillary has this all wrapped up.

Posted by: Perv with a casting couch at December 12, 2017 09:42 PM (9dH/8)

918 Grande = Banned Shit Guy?

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 09:42 PM (yXU4O)

919 On the good side, for the NYT to be correct they have to be right about how many outstanding votes exist AND that they're basically ALL for Jones.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at December 12, 2017 09:42 PM (xQfPr)

920 And the Times needle continues its rightward drift.

Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at December 12, 2017 09:42 PM (wtvvX)

921 880 Posted by: Mega at December 12, 2017 09:39 PM (rv0Fo)

Yup, the GOP had to win by 45% or no election is legitimate.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 09:42 PM (SzZnW)

922 This seems similar to voting in Virginia where Republicans sprint out to huge leads and then bomb spectacularly when all the votes from Newport News come in.

Posted by: ThomasR at December 12, 2017 09:42 PM (khIpu)

923 Can a ban hammer be put on the trolls afterward?

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 09:42 PM (LnOh3)

924 The NYT is nuts, they think there are over a half million more votes to count. The real number is easier below half that.
Moore may stand a chance after all. The whole thing now depends on heavily Democratic Montgomery and Birmigham.

Posted by: Bob at December 12, 2017 09:42 PM (y8zZb)

925 That's starting to sound like a steep hill for Jones to climb.

Apparently (go figure) none of the majority black cities have reported in. If Moore's not up at least 10 by the time they report it is o-v-e-r

Posted by: DocJ at December 12, 2017 09:42 PM (7bkOX)

926 cnn is favoring Moore. Turnout in cities will determine the race.

40% counted in Birmingham

Posted by: redenzo at December 12, 2017 09:42 PM (5wSNN)

927 NYT's Estimated Margin pointer is slowly but surely slipping into the pink right now...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 12, 2017 09:43 PM (e9G8E)

928 It's running neck and ambiblical cord...

Posted by: Unicon at December 12, 2017 09:43 PM (p42KM)

929 Betting markets right now have Jones at 70% to win it was moore 70% before the votes were counted

Posted by: #neverskankles at December 12, 2017 09:43 PM (9d67L)

930 My concern is that the urban vote isn't in yet. If those votes are held until the end there is an opportunity for fraud. This is too close for comfort.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at December 12, 2017 09:43 PM (N5dam)

931 FBN's Headline now reads:


TIGHT RACE IN ALABAMA


OMG...these people are too much.

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 09:43 PM (Enq6K)

932 last decent poll before election had moore by 5...yeah, ill go with that...

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2017 09:43 PM (QC/4S)

933 The NY Times Meter is obviously trying to become a meme meaning "worthless".

Posted by: Mega at December 12, 2017 09:43 PM (rv0Fo)

934 881 i'd bet on trump
my wife is from there and the rethugsiKKKans will vote
the democrats are too lazy

Posted by: navycopjoe at December 12, 2017 09:43 PM (N6CVU)

935 Wait, did BSG get put in time out?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 09:43 PM (T4n7S)

936 Did your dad know what you did on every date?

It's called "jailbait" for a reason, as in they lock men up in jail

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 09:37 PM (uc45P)

++++

Age of consent in Alabama is 16. Used to be lower.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 09:43 PM (pvjTE)

937 Why troll at this point?
Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at December 12, 2017 09:41 PM (wtvvX)

Soros pays time and a half after 7:00 p.m. Central time.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2017 09:43 PM (8+Ozj)

938 Moore +60,000 (8.4%) with 68% in

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 12, 2017 09:43 PM (y3aQB)

939 NYT's Estimated Margin pointer is slowly but surely slipping into the pink right now...
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Go on...

Posted by: Mega at December 12, 2017 09:43 PM (rv0Fo)

940 I'm telling you CNN is like a morgue. If Jones is winning these guys are hiding it really well.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2017 09:44 PM (/tuJf)

941 Nyt 71% Jones

Posted by: #neverskankles at December 12, 2017 09:44 PM (9d67L)

942 888
Well, the fat lady still ain't sung.

I was getting ready for her to give us a peggin' while singing, what with the NYT and Hannity gloom, but she ain't started yet.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 12, 2017 09:40 PM (8O3HH)

==================

I'm too durnk to sing right now ... *hic*

Posted by: Hillary 2080!!! at December 12, 2017 09:44 PM (BiLU+)

943 Why troll at this point?

Why ever troll?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 09:44 PM (WbIyz)

944 There's an election in Alabama tonight? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at December 12, 2017 09:44 PM (LQLeS)

945 NYTimes looks like it's basing its percentage meter on 538's "analysis"

Posted by: Skywise at December 12, 2017 09:44 PM (858q0)

946 925 Posted by: DocJ at December 12, 2017 09:42 PM (7bkOX)

"as many Buick trunks as it takes boys...."

//Al "Groper" Franken

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 09:44 PM (SzZnW)

947 Wait, did BSG get put in time out?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 09:43 PM (T4n7S)

Sounded like till Tuesday of next week.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2017 09:44 PM (8+Ozj)

948 That's just odd. The results on the front page of the Times show 69% reporting with moore up by 6%. Yet their meter shows jones winning at 71%. It's just odd.

Posted by: notsothoreau at December 12, 2017 09:45 PM (5HBd1)

949 NYT's Estimated Margin pointer is slowly but surely slipping into the pink right now...


Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 12, 2017 09:43 PM (e9G8E)


And back to the blue @ 70%

Posted by: RickZ at December 12, 2017 09:45 PM (BIsma)

950 Are there that many votes left to give this to Jones? Could the "close race" just be a ratings ploy?

Posted by: mugiwara at December 12, 2017 09:45 PM (pFSBP)

951
Nate Silver's model STILL shows both Hillary and Doug Jones at 97% chance of winning!

Posted by: ShainS at December 12, 2017 09:45 PM (BiLU+)

952 All that I need is $4.73 from each of you proud amercans and I can get this recount moving.

or do you hate apple pie?

Posted by: Dr. Jill Stein at December 12, 2017 09:45 PM (vChNs)

953 My guess is you don't have kids. I have daughters. If a man in his 30s was prowling around for high school aged girls he'd find himself eating through a straw.

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Really, because Moore asked those girls parents if it was OK to go on a date and they said Yes.

Maybe they were a better judge of Moore's character than you.your

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 09:45 PM (LnOh3)

954 Not even close, Bud!

Posted by: John Bender at December 12, 2017 09:45 PM (9dH/8)

955 What does that make me?
Posted by: OldDominionMom at December 12, 2017 09:42 PM (GzDYP)


--Obviously very hot as a 17 year old.

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 09:45 PM (GsAUU)

956 Why ever troll?
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An empty and meaningless life?

Posted by: Bull Shit Guy at December 12, 2017 09:46 PM (SkuXa)

957 925
Apparently (go figure) none of the majority black cities have reported in. If Moore's not up at least 10 by the time they report it is o-v-e-r
Posted by: DocJ at December 12, 2017 09:42 PM (7bkOX)


Simple. The rural areas should wait until the cities report. Didn't that happen in Wisconsin a couple years ago?

Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2017 09:46 PM (sdi6R)

958 I trust Finnegan the most. I'd love to hear more from him. I call him Ishmael. He bagged the Great White Whale last time.

When you refresh the page the vid stops.

One awesome feature on these comments would be an ajax updater so I didnt have to refresh a thousand times.

With the current system, if I were ace I'd consider some inline ads.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 09:46 PM (BLayO)

959 The two largest counties are Shelby (pop 660,000) and Mobile (pop 415,000), which are majority black and are mostly still uncounted.

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 09:46 PM (gYAkw)

960 My guess is you don't have kids. I have daughters.

What part of "I don't like it" did you miss? Or did you simply ignore that part deliberately?

The age of consent is set by the nation, by voters. They seem to think its okay even if its skeevy to some people. If there was a huge problem with it, the age would be moved up.

As many have pointed out in the past in the 70s in the south this was hardly strange or noteworthy. Several of the girls interviewed said their parents gave her permission.

So lets stop acting like this is something bizarre and horrendous, beyond the pale.

Let me flip your idiotic "you don't have kids" crap on its head.

if your son was 30 and wanted to date a 16 year old, would you say that makes him a monster? Someone who should be beat up?

Don't bother responding. You'll just lie.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 09:46 PM (39g3+)

961 Cnn has like 47 people on their panel. Lol

Posted by: #neverskankles at December 12, 2017 09:46 PM (9d67L)

962 Well spank mu butt and call me Bertha, Moar Moore in AL

Posted by: Big FAt Meanie at December 12, 2017 09:46 PM (RrtlF)

963 It all depends which counties have reported and which haven't. if the cities haven't reported, that's not good news.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V. at December 12, 2017 09:46 PM (P8951)

964 I told you idiots Trump was poison
This election DEMANDS a second look at Jeb!

Posted by: Chem Jeff at December 12, 2017 09:46 PM (qOaog)

965 The courts have no say in how the Senate conducts its business. If they refused to seat Moore at all, something that the constitution requires, then SCOTUS would step in. But, the constitution give the Senate the authority to kick out its members, and it doesn't say anything about only things that happen while the Senator is in office. The Senate makes their own rules, and they decide how to enforce them.

McConnell has called a meeting for tomorrow of all GOP Senators. The purpose of that meeting will be to decide how to deal with Moore. They will find a way to cover their asses. It's going to the ethics committee.

Or wait, maybe you still think DOJ will be involved?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 09:35 PM (FUu/Z)

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Wow, so the law matters not? How....very.....Orwellian of you.

I notice that you have not addressed my assertions that the Senate "Ethics Committee" is by law constricted to only being allowed to investigate activity of a sitting Senator at the time of said allegations.

You are apparently telling what you wish the law was. I am telling what the law is.

Too bad, so sad.

Posted by: Side draft at December 12, 2017 09:46 PM (ohP/V)

966 s/Shelby/Jefferson/

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 09:46 PM (gYAkw)

967 #948 I think the NYT is estimating based on voter turnout models and a (D) advantage in voter registration in the remaining uncounted urban districts.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at December 12, 2017 09:46 PM (N5dam)

968 county by county results compared to 2016 results: bad guy is gonna win
Dems will b rejoicing in the morning I am afraid

Posted by: duncan at December 12, 2017 09:46 PM (ioCsx)

969 There appears to be a game going on in AL like in IL in the 60s and 70s ... upstate trickle some votes...downstate trickle some votes....

Posted by: Czar Peter at December 12, 2017 09:46 PM (qaWk6)

970 948 That's just odd. The results on the front page of the Times show 69% reporting with moore up by 6%. Yet their meter shows jones winning at 71%. It's just odd.
Posted by: notsothoreau at December 12, 2017 09:45 PM (5HBd1)

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DHS vote hacking results in crazy #s

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 09:46 PM (LnOh3)

971 Senate candidate Roy Moore, a Republican from Alabama, has been accused by a woman of making sexual contact with her in 1979 -- when she was 14 years old and he was 32 years old, the Washington Post reported Thursday.

The woman, Leigh Corfman, alleged that Moore took off her shirt and pants, kissed her and touched her over her underwear.

According to the Code of Alabama, a person commits the crime of sexual abuse in the second degree if the individual, "being 19 years old or older, subjects another person to sexual contact who is less than 16 years old, but more than 12 years old." The crime is a misdemeanor offense and punishable by up to one year in jail. The age of consent in Alabama is and was 16.

http://bit.ly/2AOsxkf

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 12, 2017 09:46 PM (itfg0)

972 If a man in his 30s was prowling around for high school aged girls he'd find himself eating through a straw.

Asking the parents permission to date her isn't exactly "prowling around".

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2017 09:47 PM (gm9yG)

973 Did BSG get the hammer?

Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2017 09:47 PM (EGFUD)

974
The Statue of Liberty is kaput!!!

That's disconcerting.

Posted by: dartist at December 12, 2017 09:47 PM (nisXv)

975 Jefferson County half over and Moore is still up by 5?

I'm thinking Moore will win. And if he doesn't have Allred disbarred for forgery, then he should be flayed.

No space for losers.

Posted by: trev006 at December 12, 2017 09:47 PM (jRA31)

976 Who's trollin'??!!

Posted by: Boxxy at December 12, 2017 09:47 PM (t3F5b)

977 Age of consent in Alabama is 16. Used to be lower.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 09:43 PM (pvjTE)

It's 17 here and I was surprised. I just assumed it's 18 everywhere. It isn't. Some states it is still 14 or 15. Or at least it was some years ago.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 12, 2017 09:47 PM (4ErVI)

978 Birmingham just dropped Moore's lead by 3 points

Posted by: Fort Collins Lurker at December 12, 2017 09:47 PM (yGY/h)

979 I endorsed Tom Jones. Thus he will win.
*hic*

Posted by: Hillary! at December 12, 2017 09:47 PM (LQLeS)

980 FBN:

71% In

Moore 51.6%
Jones 47.0%

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 09:47 PM (Enq6K)

981 My husband is 13 years older than me, but I will have to admit that if he started pursuing me when I was 17, my parents would not have let me date him.

Posted by: Emmie -- please, no public display of insanity at December 12, 2017 09:47 PM (/A+Cl)

982 GOPe has binders full of votes ready to go.
DNC has trunks full of votes ready to go.
Beating the fraud is the hardest pull he's got.

Posted by: gNewt at December 12, 2017 09:47 PM (+lSVr)

983 Man... these current vote percentages and projections are still all over the place.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at December 12, 2017 09:47 PM (ZZdXT)

984 Democrats didn't have problem with killers and klukkers in their party. It was 40 years ago, so it's ok.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 12, 2017 09:48 PM (Eu5eZ)

985 CNN finally noticed the NYT spinner and are talking about it

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 09:48 PM (gYAkw)

986 956 Why ever troll?
---------------

An empty and meaningless life?
Posted by: Bull Shit Guy at December 12, 2017 09:46 PM (SkuXa)

--I never troll.

I shitpost.

Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 09:48 PM (GsAUU)

987 >>According to the Code of Alabama, a person commits the crime of sexual abuse in the second degree if the individual, "being 19 years old or older, subjects another person to sexual contact who is less than 16 years old, but more than 12 years old." The crime is a misdemeanor offense and punishable by up to one year in jail. The age of consent in Alabama is and was 16.



Well there you have it.

Now, who is up for an Orange Julius?

Posted by: Roy Moore at December 12, 2017 09:48 PM (RzgQJ)

988 The racial makeup of Shelby county was 89.80% White, 7.40% Black or African American, 0.33% Native American, 1.03% Asian, 0.02% Pacific Islander, 0.71% from other races, and 0.72% from two or more races. 2.03% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race. You may now continue.

Posted by: @SOEarpiece at December 12, 2017 09:48 PM (WbIyz)

989 I dated a 30 something year old guy when I was 17. He brought me roses on our first date and drove an awesome car. We went for a steak dinner.
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Was he a friendly stranger? Did he drive a black sedan?

Posted by: The Ides of March at December 12, 2017 09:48 PM (leCj4)

990 And you know what you can do with that hat......

Posted by: The Garbone at December 12, 2017 09:48 PM (9dH/8)

991 948 That's just odd. The results on the front page of the Times show 69% reporting with moore up by 6%. Yet their meter shows jones winning at 71%. It's just odd.
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Makes me wonder if the slimes went all in for '16 and had the A team do the meter because hillary! Now, maybe the backbenchers are running it.. ::shrugs::

Posted by: willy at December 12, 2017 09:48 PM (puf6g)

992 973 Did BSG get the hammer?
Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2017 09:47 PM (EGFUD)

He's on a week's time out as of this morning.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 12, 2017 09:48 PM (NWiLs)

993 >>>There's an election in Alabama tonight? Never heard of it.
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at December 12, 2017 09:44 PM (LQLeS)

I'll allow it.

Posted by: Ministry of Stale Memes at December 12, 2017 09:48 PM (q177U)

994 I endorsed Tom Jones. Thus he will win.
*hic*

Posted by: Hillary! at December 12, 2017 09:47 PM (LQLeS)



It's not unusual...well actually that may be

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2017 09:49 PM (SiINZ)

995 "The rural areas should wait until the cities report. Didn't that happen in Wisconsin a couple years ago?"

This is actually how MA GOP(e)(d) Charlie Baker beat machine hack AG Coakley. She couldn't have enough votes manufactured in the remaining bombed out mill cities to overcome the real vote tally when other districts waited until the very end to report.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at December 12, 2017 09:49 PM (N5dam)

996 Many states in the USA think so too, since that's
the age of consent. Seriously, I don't like it but clearly the country
doesn't have so much of a problem with it until its this judge.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 09:38 PM (39g3+)

Give your head a shake, man. Moore has done exactly nothing wrong. Dating =/= fucking. He was vetting possible wife material, in most cases with the approval of the womens' parents.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2017 09:49 PM (oPNmq)

997 It's 17 here and I was surprised. I just assumed it's 18 everywhere. It isn't. Some states it is still 14 or 15. Or at least it was some years ago.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 12, 2017 09:47 PM (4ErVI)


It currently varies from 16 to 18. This is actually a historical high for the U.S.

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 12, 2017 09:49 PM (itfg0)

998 montgomery and mobile counties still have lots of dem vote to turn in...does not look good for Moore. dem is gonna win by 2 points

Posted by: duncan at December 12, 2017 09:49 PM (ioCsx)

999 I endorsed Tom Jones. Thus he will win.
*hic*

Posted by: Hillary<<<


That was a pretty raunchy movie.`

Posted by: Harley at December 12, 2017 09:49 PM (+lSVr)

1000 1000 comments for Alabama special election. Just Sayin.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 09:49 PM (g4lFK)

1001 What's really at stake here is that if Moore ends up losing, it will validate the strategies that were used against him and set the precedent that any accusations, true or not, can derail any candidate you don't like.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at December 12, 2017 09:49 PM (2EYE1)

1002 Insomniac, lol. thanks.

Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2017 09:49 PM (EGFUD)

1003 I typo'ed Shelby for Jefferson (sorry)

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 09:49 PM (gYAkw)

1004 Why do Republican counties always count their votes so fast? They need to hold out until the cities count their votes first.

Posted by: Mario Rubio at December 12, 2017 09:49 PM (MuTTO)

1005 >>>I endorsed Tom Jones. Thus he will win.

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary! at December 12, 2017 09:47 PM (LQLeS)<<<

My polling is huge!

Posted by: Tom Jones at December 12, 2017 09:49 PM (WlG0e)

1006 Jefferson county hasn't reported yet. very Democratic as Alabama goes. have any GOP counties not reported yet?

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V. at December 12, 2017 09:49 PM (P8951)

1007 977 It's 17 here and I was surprised. I just assumed it's 18 everywhere. It isn't. Some states it is still 14 or 15. Or at least it was some years ago.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 12, 2017 09:47 PM (4ErVI)

And many states have a 3-4 year buffer so an 18 or 19 year old doesn't get busted for having a high school girlfriend.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 09:50 PM (yXU4O)

1008 Back in the 80s in high school a girl I was trying to date ended up falling in love with a man in his mid 30s. Got married right out of high school and had 3 kids by him. She eventually divorced 10 years later. She was 16 when they started dating. Not sure what the legal limit in our state was at the time but we (I) did question it but it was what it was.

Posted by: Skywise at December 12, 2017 09:50 PM (858q0)

1009 985
CNN finally noticed the NYT spinner and are talking about it

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 09:48 PM (gYAkw)

It's so hard to slip anything past those journalists at CNN.

Posted by: Peaches at December 12, 2017 09:50 PM (14URa)

1010 I'm thinking most Alabamans and their long memories view all these outsiders, especially yankees, trying to influence their election as carpetbaggers ....

Posted by: ShainS at December 12, 2017 09:50 PM (BiLU+)

1011 AL Sen Shelby gotta lotta gall to stab JudgeMoore in the back like that, considering Shelby was A DEMOCRAT for most of his adult life, including when he was first elected to the US Senate.

If JudgeMoore wins tonight, in a way it'll be even better than when Trump won. I hope Moore wins by 1 vote, just to see Democrats immolating themselves for the next year because they couldn't get THAT ONE LAST VOTE OUT...lol

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at December 12, 2017 09:50 PM (+O9YB)

1012 Here we go Jones down by less than 2...cnn is ecstatic

It is over.

Posted by: #neverskankles at December 12, 2017 09:50 PM (/84uh)

1013 Welp...

Posted by: ThomasR at December 12, 2017 09:50 PM (khIpu)

1014 483
453 V.V. Putin does not drink alcohol, nor does he smoke



ive literally seen him drink two glasses of wine

Posted by: navycopjoe at December 12, 2017 08:56 PM (N6CVU)
Wine is not alcohol, Comrade.






















































































Posted by: red at December 12, 2017 09:50 PM (nVN5G)

1015 if your son was 30 and wanted to date a 16 year old, would you say that makes him a monster? Someone who should be beat up?

Don't bother responding. You'll just lie.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

________

Yes, I would say he's a predator if he tried to date women that were that age.

And Moore was with 14 year olds, but his story keeps changing.

Why do think this is even a tight election? Clearly a lot of people who are normally quite conservative feel the same way.

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 09:50 PM (uc45P)

1016 1001 Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at December 12, 2017 09:49 PM (2EYE1)

It shows Republican voters are too stupid to have power.

IOW "the status quo for the last 9 years."

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 09:50 PM (SzZnW)

1017 Is touching boobies still covered by clothes considered 2nd base? I was never clear on that part of the nekkid/non-nekkid aspect.

I say no, but I'm a purist.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 09:50 PM (T4n7S)

1018 uncomfortably close

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2017 09:50 PM (QC/4S)

1019 992 973 Did BSG get the hammer?
Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2017 09:47 PM (EGFUD)

He's on a week's time out as of this morning.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 12, 2017 09:48 PM (NWiLs)


Ooooh....which thread?!

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 09:50 PM (Enq6K)

1020 It's a turnout problem, which is a result of not being able to properly fund a GOTV. The GOP-E pulled the rug out from Moore by cutting off his campaign funds to ensure his loss.

The GOP-E is the real enemy.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 09:50 PM (+dsLj)

1021 Did BSG get the hammer?
Posted by: Infidel
------------

More like a love-tap.

Posted by: The Ides of March at December 12, 2017 09:50 PM (leCj4)

1022 Simple. The rural areas should wait until the cities report. Didn't that happen in Wisconsin a couple years ago?
Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2017 09:46 PM (sdi6R)

Then no one would report and we would be doing this for weeks. Moore would die of old age before he would know whether he won or not.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 12, 2017 09:51 PM (ZgKFD)

1023 BSG out for a week?

I can come back for a week. I'll take it.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 12, 2017 09:51 PM (3myMJ)

1024 Correct, Biggs Darklighter.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 12, 2017 09:51 PM (U+nHb)

1025 What's this totally unreported Dallas County?

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2017 09:51 PM (5gaNQ)

1026 If voter ID laws are disenfranchising Democrat voters, why hasn't the DNC put together a "Get Yourself a Driver's License" campaign?

I mean if you are gonna drop $10 million on a 2 year senate seat and millions on Pajama boy, why not just pay for the 100,000 Alabamans purported to have no ID? I don't know what at DL in Bama costs, but if it's like Tennessee ($24) then $2.4 million could put an ID in the hands of all those folks.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at December 12, 2017 09:51 PM (ubJwS)

1027 >>>Grande = Banned Shit Guy?

That's what I'm thinking too. Our resident troll has a different hash everyday so could easily slip CBD's one week time out.

Posted by: cfo mom at December 12, 2017 09:51 PM (RfzVr)

1028 Why do Republican counties always count their votes so fast? They need to hold out until the cities count their votes first.
-----------------------

I think the question you should be asking is why the Democrat ones count so SLOW. But that rep ipsos itself.

Posted by: Mega at December 12, 2017 09:51 PM (rv0Fo)

1029 1000 comments for Alabama special election. Just Sayin.


No football.

Posted by: @SOEarpiece at December 12, 2017 09:51 PM (WbIyz)

1030 typical dem playbook: hold votes in the big cities and see how many u need to win...Hillary was so overconfident she had her big city peeps turn in early...did not think they needed to cheat

Posted by: duncan at December 12, 2017 09:51 PM (ioCsx)

1031 Many states in the USA think so too, since that's
the age of consent. Seriously, I don't like it but clearly the country
doesn't have so much of a problem with it until its this judge.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 09:38 PM (39g3+)

Give your head a shake, man. Moore has done exactly nothing wrong. Dating =/= fucking. He was vetting possible wife material, in most cases with the approval of the womens' parents.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2017 09:49 PM (oPNmq)


Cruisin' high schoolers isn't exactly the sign of an upstanding model citizen...

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 12, 2017 09:51 PM (itfg0)

1032 Shannon Bream FOX reports that they have 10,000 texts between Strzok and Lisa Page.

Her show comes on at 11:00pm. Wonder if we'll get to see some.

Posted by: IrishEi at December 12, 2017 09:51 PM (HiDrR)

1033 Thanks Mitch!

Posted by: John Marston at December 12, 2017 09:52 PM (SkuXa)

1034 It's never too late for the barrel.

Posted by: SMOD Keeper at December 12, 2017 09:52 PM (sFMtO)

1035 The blog is doing that high traffic/comment thing. Where there is a definite lag in refresh.

Someone needs to fill the hamster's water bottle with fresh val-u-rite.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 12, 2017 09:52 PM (ZgKFD)

1036 red - That may be technically a Barrel.

Posted by: The Ides of March at December 12, 2017 09:52 PM (leCj4)

1037 973 Did BSG get the hammer?
Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2017 09:47 PM (EGFUD)


---

seven days in the box.

Posted by: Dr. Jill Stein at December 12, 2017 09:52 PM (vChNs)

1038 Uh, oh. Michigan is looking pretty close for Moore. Not all of Detroit is reporting, though.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 09:52 PM (BoMuO)

1039 But but...... Jones had the best polls and hacks
money could buy...

Posted by: The Garbone at December 12, 2017 09:52 PM (9dH/8)

1040 I have a bad feeling because it is too close. But anything can happen. So pray horde, pray!

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at December 12, 2017 09:52 PM (N5dam)

1041 I think the question you should be asking is why the Democrat ones count so SLOW. But that rep ipsos itself.
Posted by: Mega at December 12, 2017 09:51 PM (rv0Fo)

------------------------------------------------------

Hmmm...I would think Republicans would have figured this out by now. Take your time...

Posted by: William Eaton at December 12, 2017 09:52 PM (MuTTO)

1042 Having the entire media call you a child molester for 2 months straight has an impact!

Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at December 12, 2017 09:52 PM (ZZhQQ)

1043 1031 Posted by: The Political Hat at December 12, 2017 09:51 PM (itfg0)

"Tell me about it ese"

//Smiling Bob Menendez and Beijing Billy

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 09:52 PM (SzZnW)

1044 What's this totally unreported Dallas County?

Selma. About 44k residents.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 09:53 PM (WbIyz)

1045 Amanda Carp haz teh Sadz that the #MeToo movement is mostly democrat wymyn and she believes the future is female.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 09:53 PM (g4lFK)

1046 I love how I'm a weirdo because I don't think men in dresses should be using the same bathrooms as little girls, but I'm supposed to be blind with rage at the idea of a man in his 30s dating 16 and 17 year olds with their parents' approval.

Posted by: Bag of Dicks Salesman at December 12, 2017 09:53 PM (H5knJ)

1047 If Moore wins, I'll put on my stylishly neon-yellow hazmat suit and go over to CNN.

And then possibly over to MSLSD to hear the lamentations of that nice Rachel Maddow fellow. Still can't figure out why his parents named him that...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 12, 2017 09:53 PM (tRaq7)

1048 1006 Jefferson county hasn't reported yet. very Democratic as Alabama goes. have any GOP counties not reported yet?
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V. at December 12, 2017 09:49 PM (P8951)


If Jefferson County is majority black, shouldn't they be demanding that the name be changed?

Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2017 09:53 PM (sdi6R)

1049 1036
red - That may be technically a Barrel.

Is the barrel full of Wodka?

Posted by: red at December 12, 2017 09:53 PM (nVN5G)

1050 1000 1000 comments for Alabama special election. Just Sayin.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 09:49 PM (g4lFK)

---

I just tried to go to Hotair but their comment section didn't work for me. I wouldn't be surprised if they closed it down, honestly.

If it's still alive, I'd wager they have 10-20 comments, and at least one is spam about how someone's sister earns $140 an hour doing part time work and click here.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 09:53 PM (T4n7S)

1051 What's really at stake here is that if Moore ends up losing, it will validate the strategies that were used against him and set the precedent that any accusations, true or not, can derail any candidate you don't like.

I'm pretty sure, win or lose, the Dems will be trying this for a very long time. It's pretty much all they have left.

Posted by: mpthompson at December 12, 2017 09:53 PM (b0njJ)

1052 They just had a news brief to tease the news here in Denver and nary a word was said about the Bama election. Must not be good for the Democrat.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 12, 2017 09:53 PM (XGGts)

1053 Other than Trump, who is the next Gop pol that the left tries to take out over sex allegations ??

Posted by: sofa saver at December 12, 2017 09:53 PM (4u7kU)

1054 is it too late for McMullin to pull out the win..?

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at December 12, 2017 09:53 PM (ILitO)

1055 Posted by: The Political Hat at December 12, 2017 09:46 PM (itfg0)

I see Hat is here to spread his stupidity with an accusation that doesn't hold up to any standard.

Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at December 12, 2017 09:53 PM (wtvvX)

1056 >>seven days in the box.

That can break a man.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2017 09:53 PM (/tuJf)

1057 Moore lead shrunk and is starting to expand again....

Posted by: Mega at December 12, 2017 09:54 PM (rv0Fo)

1058 Why do they have an imported pansy covering this? Can't they at least get an American.

Also, when did gingers stop being cute?

What a world.

Posted by: George LeS at December 12, 2017 09:54 PM (+TcCF)

1059 A choice between a guy who likes them young, and one who likes to kill them young.

Posted by: Jomcdowe at December 12, 2017 09:54 PM (q8OQc)

1060 I won't shed tears if Moore does not win. May be for the better.

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2017 09:54 PM (QC/4S)

1061 1037 973 Did BSG get the hammer?
Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2017 09:47 PM (EGFUD)


---

seven days in the box.
Posted by: Dr. Jill Stein at December 12, 2017 09:52 PM (vChNs)

He's in the cooler? Does he have a baseball and a mitt?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 12, 2017 09:54 PM (ZgKFD)

1062 So if Jones wins, does that mean that Franken has to resign? But if Moore wins, then Franken gets to stay?

Posted by: Winebibber at December 12, 2017 09:54 PM (LQLeS)

1063 Just think, this all could have been avoided if Trump had picked anybody other than Sleepy Sessions as AG

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at December 12, 2017 09:54 PM (2EYE1)

1064 Wow, so the law matters not? How....very.....Orwellian of you.

I notice that you have not addressed my assertions that the Senate "Ethics Committee" is by law constricted to only being allowed to investigate activity of a sitting Senator at the time of said allegations.

You are apparently telling what you wish the law was. I am telling what the law is.

Too bad, so sad.

Posted by: Side draft at December 12, 2017 09:46 PM (ohP/V)

++++

What law? There is no law. The constitution requires they set him if elected. The constitution allows the Senate to kick out members accourding to their own rules. The Senate makes up its own rules.

The rule used to be that they could filibuster a SCOTUS nominee. Perhaps you heard, the changed the rules and put Gorsuch on SCOTUS, even though they wouldn't have been able to under the old rules. They change the rules at will.

One again. THERE IS NO LAW. If they want to send him to ethics, they will.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 09:54 PM (pvjTE)

1065 Posted by: logprof at December 12, 2017 09:45 PM (GsAUU)

Aw, shucks. Thanks!

Posted by: OldDominionMom at December 12, 2017 09:54 PM (GzDYP)

1066 He was vetting possible wife material, in most cases with the approval of the womens' parents.

Eh, I just find it skeevy for someone twice their age to be dating. You know the rule, half plus seven isn't it? Not just half.

Its legal, sure. Just don't like it. But I'm not a dad in 1978 Alabama, either.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 09:55 PM (39g3+)

1067 Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 12, 2017 09:48 PM (NWiLs)


Ooooh....which thread?!
Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 09:50 PM (Enq6K)

Sefton's morning thread.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 12, 2017 09:55 PM (NWiLs)

1068 Well, I completely misread this election.

Media smear campaigns still work, it seems.

Posted by: Methos at December 12, 2017 09:55 PM (XQvuQ)

1069 If Jefferson County is majority black, shouldn't they be demanding that the name be changed?
Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2017 09:53 PM (sdi6R)

Hey I moved up to the East Side with a deluxe apartment in the sky. Of course I deserve a county named after me.

Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at December 12, 2017 09:55 PM (wtvvX)

1070 I just tried to go to Hotair but their comment section didn't work for
me.
--------------------------------

Said no one in the last 2.5 years

Posted by: Mega at December 12, 2017 09:55 PM (rv0Fo)

1071 We'll pick it up elsewhere...don't know how or where yet..

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2017 09:55 PM (QC/4S)

1072 The map analyst is by far the most educated on this race.

Posted by: Golfmax13 at December 12, 2017 09:55 PM (r36W8)

1073
Why troll at this point?
Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at December 12, 2017 09:41 PM (wtvvX)






Some trolls will just be commie douchebags who get their jollies being unpleasant.

The paid, professional trolls have a very specific mission on election day: suppression of turnout. The theory is, induce enough despair and some folks will decide that it's not worth the effort of voting in a lost cause. Whether it actually works or not......hell if I know.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 12, 2017 09:55 PM (eXA4G)

1074 So if Jones wins, does that mean that Franken has to resign? But if Moore wins, then Franken gets to stay?

Posted by: Winebibber at December 12, 2017 09:54 PM (LQLeS)


I'm pretty sure Franken is staying right where he is no matter what happens.

Posted by: mugiwara at December 12, 2017 09:55 PM (pFSBP)

1075 re 1053: one would hope it's McCain already

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at December 12, 2017 09:55 PM (ILitO)

1076 I don't remember it that way blaster. It was strong for Hillary up front, just like I was. Then when I started thinking, hmm maybe there is a chance for Trump it tightened. Then it started to favor Trump, maybe around 8pm central, and it kept moving toward Trump's way.

Early that needle was favoring Trump when no one else was even talking about it.

The reason I remember so well, was because I was totally depressed and went to Buffalo Wild Wings, the one place I knew would not have politics on TV.

Then I started watching my phone, at 7:30 central I came home and ace had the link to the needle and it moved exactly the way it should have, in my mind, all night.

I think the person above who said the needle is 538 is exactly right.

Right now the needle is really moving in Moore's direction with Jones slightly favored.

I would love to hear from star man.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 09:55 PM (BLayO)

1077 Moore's lead and Leon are both getting larger

Posted by: Mega at December 12, 2017 09:55 PM (rv0Fo)

1078 Posted by: The Political Hat at December 12, 2017 09:46 PM (itfg0)

I see Hat is here to spread his stupidity with an accusation that doesn't hold up to any standard.

Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at December 12, 2017 09:53 PM (wtvvX)


Are you referring to the ages of consent?

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 12, 2017 09:55 PM (itfg0)

1079
Ah, shit. Might better get the bits ready, I'm afraid the fat lady is puttin' on the harness.

Maybe she'll at least give us the reach around.

But it's still ain't over.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 12, 2017 09:56 PM (8O3HH)

1080 What's this totally unreported Dallas County?

Selma. About 44k residents.


This could all come down to my hometown, Resume Speed AL. Population 73, if you count all the dogs and cats too.

I'm not saying it's a small town, but the all-night diner closes at 8pm. The hospital closes at 9.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 12, 2017 09:56 PM (tRaq7)

1081 Jefferson County expecting Presidential level turnout for the Dems?

Yeah, no. I think Moore might have clinched it.

Posted by: trev006 at December 12, 2017 09:56 PM (jRA31)

1082 1068 Posted by: Methos at December 12, 2017 09:55 PM (XQvuQ)

Now more than ever, PIPEWRENCH

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 09:56 PM (SzZnW)

1083 red - That may be technically a Barrel.

Is the barrel full of Wodka?
Posted by: red
--------------

It may be...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2017 09:56 PM (leCj4)

1084 Cnn is all smiles now.

Posted by: #neverskankles at December 12, 2017 09:56 PM (/84uh)

1085 1062 So if Jones wins, does that mean that Franken has to resign? But if Moore wins, then Franken gets to stay?
Posted by: Winebibber at December 12, 2017 09:54 PM (LQLeS)

I am pretty sure Franken will try to hang on regardless.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 12, 2017 09:56 PM (ZgKFD)

1086 oh, hell, I'm not going to defend Moore. he's creepy. and no, I would not want a 30 year old man to date my 16 year old. but as creepy as Moore is, the Dems are worse.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V. at December 12, 2017 09:56 PM (P8951)

1087 "Millenials and woman are going to save our country" - CNN

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 09:56 PM (gYAkw)

1088 Hmmm...I would think Republicans would have figured this out by now.

They did: voter ID is the law in Alabama.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 09:56 PM (39g3+)

1089 Just think, this all could have been avoided if Trump had picked anybody other than Sleepy Sessions as AG
*******************

Could he have really foreseen this? A senator that got one of the best conservative ratings coming from what should have been a safe senate seat ending up being a fucking catastrophe of an AG?

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 09:56 PM (+dsLj)

1090 Schumer days hes been falsely accused of sexual harassment and he went straight to Capitol Police.....

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2017 09:56 PM (mc8++)

1091 1000 comments for Alabama special election. Just Sayin.

---

we get to talk about underage girls...

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at December 12, 2017 09:56 PM (vChNs)

1092 Have I mentioned lately how much I detest the media?

Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 12, 2017 09:57 PM (BHMfA)

1093 Laura ingraham not looking happy either

Posted by: #neverskankles at December 12, 2017 09:57 PM (/84uh)

1094 1083 red - That may be technically a Barrel.

Is the barrel full of Wodka?
Posted by: red
--------------

It may be...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2017 09:56 PM (leCj4)

Used wodka.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 12, 2017 09:57 PM (NWiLs)

1095
He's in the cooler? Does he have a baseball and a mitt?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop


Irish jockey in the next cell.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2017 09:57 PM (IqV8l)

1096 Is touching boobies still covered by clothes considered 2nd base? I was never clear on that part of the nekkid/non-nekkid aspect.

I say no, but I'm a purist.

Posted by: Moron Robbie -
************************

Never in my world.
You've got to tag that base.

Posted by: gNewt at December 12, 2017 09:57 PM (+lSVr)

1097 1073
Why troll at this point?
Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at December 12, 2017 09:41 PM (wtvvX)






Some trolls will just be commie douchebags who get their jollies being unpleasant.

The paid, professional trolls have a very specific mission on election day: suppression of turnout. The theory is, induce enough despair and some folks will decide that it's not worth the effort of voting in a lost cause. Whether it actually works or not......hell if I know.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 12, 2017 09:55 PM (eXA4G)

------

Votings over with. Yet still trolling.

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 09:57 PM (LnOh3)

1098 Is it a Bow Tie?

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 08:10 PM (RzgQJ)

Well, if it was a Stern tie, he'd have to turn around for you to see it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2017 09:58 PM (oPNmq)

1099 Was he a friendly stranger? Did he drive a black sedan?
Posted by: The Ides of March at December 12, 2017 09:48 PM (leCj4)

THIS is why this is the best place on the internet!

Posted by: Scanner Dan at December 12, 2017 09:58 PM (lGKoh)

1100 Media smear campaigns still work, it seems.

Worked in Virginia, that outrageous, godawful ad did its job.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 09:58 PM (39g3+)

1101 omg, Faux News bringing in the Uniparty stooges to quadruple down on Jones.

Hate these fcku ups

Posted by: some friggin dope at December 12, 2017 09:58 PM (6OUNd)

1102 So I realized something the other day and I want to know what you think:

The Media trades in bad news, the more awful the better.

Elected Democrats literally cause bad news.

Perfect match, right?

Posted by: Mega at December 12, 2017 09:58 PM (rv0Fo)

1103 Baldwin county has a lot of votes outstanding (they are heavy GOP), so they are keeping it close.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 09:58 PM (+dsLj)

1104 1092 Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 12, 2017 09:57 PM (BHMfA)

Imagine if the GOP were as interested in blackmailing Matt Lauer et al as they seem to be in kneecapping Moore et al.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 09:58 PM (SzZnW)

1105 If Jefferson County is majority black, shouldn't they be demanding that the name be changed?


They still have Lee county.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 09:58 PM (BoMuO)

1106 What prob % does NYT predict now?

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 09:58 PM (gYAkw)

1107 seven days in the box.

Posted by: Dr. Jill Stein at December 12, 2017 09:52 PM (vChNs)



He could have had a little Humble Pie and ended up with 30 Days in the Hole

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2017 09:58 PM (SiINZ)

1108 1070 I just tried to go to Hotair but their comment section didn't work for
me.
--------------------------------

Said no one in the last 2.5 years

Posted by: Mega at December 12, 2017 09:55 PM (rv0Fo)

---

I really wanted to see how many comments they had about Alabama. Mostly just to compare it to the <100 (less than 100. Seventy or so IIRC) they had in the 24 hours during and after Trump's election.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 09:58 PM (T4n7S)

1109 "and at least one is spam about how someone's sister earns $140 an hour doing part time work and click here."

A friend of a friend tells me they advertise that at backpage.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 09:58 PM (BLayO)

1110 My mom gave birth to me when she was 17, which means that she was 16 when she became pregnant - by a fella back from 'Nam who was in his mid-20s. Not exactly uncommon or a crisis. Moore, by comparison, got exactly none of these girls pregnant etc. Maybe give the handwringing a break.

Posted by: Bag of Dicks Salesman at December 12, 2017 09:58 PM (H5knJ)

1111
"Millenials and woman are going to save our country" - CNN
Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 09:56 PM


One particular woman?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2017 09:58 PM (IqV8l)

1112 CNN is so paranoid about that dark top soil.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 09:58 PM (g4lFK)

1113 I think if it's less than 0.5% it triggers the recount, and then the shit will really start to fly.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 09:59 PM (+dsLj)

1114 Votings over with. Yet still trolling.

Wait for the meth to wear off.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at December 12, 2017 09:59 PM (IcT7t)

1115 1086 oh, hell, I'm not going to defend Moore. he's creepy. and no, I would not want a 30 year old man to date my 16 year old. but as creepy as Moore is, the Dems are worse.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V. at December 12, 2017 09:56 PM (P8951)

Hear hear Donna.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 12, 2017 09:59 PM (Ri/rl)

1116 NY Rimes down to 62% chance for Jones ... were at 90%

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2017 09:59 PM (otAqJ)

1117 Eh, I just find it skeevy for someone twice their age to be dating. You know the rule, half plus seven isn't it? Not just half.

I knew a girl in HS who dated a guy who was 27. It's not that unusual.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 12, 2017 09:59 PM (tRaq7)

1118 fuck the GOPe

Posted by: #neverskankles at December 12, 2017 09:59 PM (/84uh)

1119 The paid, professional trolls have a very specific mission on election day: suppression of turnout. The theory is, induce enough despair and some folks will decide that it's not worth the effort of voting in a lost cause.

I think there's a morale thing too, they want to depress and upset people, make a long term difference.

But I think most are genuine people, just contrarians who like to go where "bad people" are and show em all how smart and great they are. So enlightened, watch me DESTROY the reichkkkh wingers with my zingers!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 09:59 PM (39g3+)

1120 1103 Baldwin county has a lot of votes outstanding (they are heavy GOP), so they are keeping it close.

I hope so!

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at December 12, 2017 09:59 PM (N5dam)

1121 So if Jones wins, does that mean that Franken has to resign? But if Moore wins, then Franken gets to stay?
***
We only have photographic evidence of Franken sexually assaulting someone. We have an admitted fake of a yearbook signing to prove Moore is a sex criminal. Come on man, this isn't hard.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2017 09:59 PM (Z8FFX)

1122 Aristotle's suggestion for marriageable age was 38 years old for men and 18 for women. I think I read that somewhere.

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 12, 2017 10:00 PM (bZ7mE)

1123 Stupid Volvo Commercials.

These are the most retarded things ever.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 10:00 PM (RzgQJ)

1124 i dont now , like i said up thread, Moore losing may not be a bad thing long term

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2017 10:00 PM (QC/4S)

1125 Is touching boobies still covered by clothes considered 2nd base? I was never clear on that part of the nekkid/non-nekkid aspect.

-----------

Well, at the least you've rounded 1st, and are headed for 2nd..

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2017 10:00 PM (leCj4)

1126
omg, Faux News bringing in the Uniparty stooges to quadruple down on Jones.
---
FBN hasn't been any better tonight.

Posted by: Methos at December 12, 2017 10:00 PM (XQvuQ)

1127 CNN says Selma (Dallas county) has 0 precincts reporting still.

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 10:00 PM (gYAkw)

1128 They cut off Finnegan for color commentary. God damn.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 10:00 PM (BLayO)

1129 Alright, I'm a pumpkin. Keep the faith Horde. Even if the Dem wins, we've been through worse. G'night.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at December 12, 2017 10:00 PM (xQfPr)

1130 Sefton's morning thread.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 12, 2017 09:55 PM (NWiLs)

Oh pooh....can't see what he said. But I'm sure it contained....

::: something idiotic :::

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 10:01 PM (Enq6K)

1131 Stupid Volvo Commercials.

These are the most retarded things ever.
Posted by: garrett
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Objection!

Posted by: Subaru at December 12, 2017 10:01 PM (leCj4)

1132 Lead under 1%

Posted by: #neverskankles at December 12, 2017 10:01 PM (/84uh)

1133 I don't think I have ever known a chick who wasn't banging a 30 year old at some point before their 20th Birthday.



Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 10:01 PM (RzgQJ)

1134 i dont now , like i said up thread, Moore losing may not be a bad thing long term
***
Every non-GOPe candidate will have a handful of women come out to accuse them of something in October. I don't see any upside.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2017 10:01 PM (Z8FFX)

1135 Some trolls will just be commie douchebags who get their jollies being unpleasant.

The paid, professional trolls have a very specific mission on election day: suppression of turnout. The theory is, induce enough despair and some folks will decide that it's not worth the effort of voting in a lost cause. Whether it actually works or not......hell if I know.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 12, 2017 09:55 PM (eXA4G)

I remember when this place had better trolls, and more of them on a constant basis.

They probably died of AIDS or an overdose and now we've got the drop in on election day trolls who aren't even good enough to troll Twitter.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 12, 2017 10:01 PM (4ErVI)

1136 Too many votes left in Birmingham and Mobile. Jones is probably going to win.

Posted by: forest at December 12, 2017 10:01 PM (/1c+O)

1137 Hannity and Laura Ingram stupid, grandstanding and self-promoting, self-righteous attacks on Moore contributed to the R's losing this seat.

Amazing how these pro-life Catholics are so skilled at shooting themselves in the foot.

Nice job, shitheads.


Posted by: Johnny K. at December 12, 2017 10:01 PM (dUOAV)

1138 FBN:

81% in

Moore: 49.6%
Jones: 48.9%

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 10:01 PM (Enq6K)

1139
Votings over with. Yet still trolling.
Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 09:57 PM (LnOh3)








They're running up the numbers for the paycheck, either by the hour or by the number of comments.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 12, 2017 10:01 PM (eXA4G)

1140 When you are being called a pedophile over and over again on the MSM, yiu should lose by double digits.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 10:01 PM (g4lFK)

1141 Media smear campaigns still work, it seems.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

_________

Was it a smear?

I mean I was willing to go along with smear job until Moore went on Hannity and said that he did date girls in that age group in his 30s, but this particular girl was lying about it.

Then a few days later, he said he never dated underage girls.

Maybe this is Moore's fault?

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 10:02 PM (uc45P)

1142 Lead at 0.5%

Posted by: #neverskankles at December 12, 2017 10:02 PM (/84uh)

1143 It is looking pretty close. Jones' lawyers are going to be busy tonight.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2017 10:02 PM (BoMuO)

1144 Ok, I'm reading a lot of takes that need to be discussed.

"This is the GOPe's fault! They cut funding to Roy Moore!"

This is Alabama. If an election is close enough that the Republican NEEDS outside money, we picked the wrong nominee.

"Alabama, you're giving the liberal media a victory, is that what you want?"

No, it's not what we want. You guys need to ask yourselves, why is it that the media ran this same playbook against Trump and he won Alabama in a blowout? Could it be possible, just POSSIBLE, that the problem here is not Trump, is not Alabama, it's Roy Moore.

"Going forward the Media is going to use this same playbook against every GOP nominee."

They've done that. They tried it against Ted Cruz and, you know what? Nobody bought it. Unfortunately Roy Moore is not Ted Cruz. Folks looked at Cruz and couldn't imagine him cheating on his wife. Folks look at Roy Moore and they see a sleaze.

We have to be more careful about whom we nominate, not everyone who latches on to the Trump agenda is a good person. Not everyone whom the establishment hates is a good person.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at December 12, 2017 10:02 PM (3ufaJ)

1145 CNN says Selma (Dallas county) has 0 precincts reporting still.

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 10:00 PM (gYAkw)


They're holding it out so they can run with the narrative that Selma, birthplace of the Civil Rights movement, saved everyone from the racisty racist Roycist Moore.

Posted by: Country Singer at December 12, 2017 10:02 PM (yzxic)

1146 Must be finding boxes full of votes only for Jones, significant jumps for Jones and no overall increase in % in.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 12, 2017 10:02 PM (Eu5eZ)

1147 Aristotle's suggestion for marriageable age was 38 years old for men and 18 for women.

Yeah but he thought drinking hemlock was a better idea than just leaving town, too.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 10:02 PM (39g3+)

1148 80% in

Jones: 50

Moore: 49

Posted by: Meremortal at December 12, 2017 10:02 PM (3myMJ)

1149 Imagine if the GOP were as interested in blackmailing Matt Lauer et al as they seem to be in kneecapping Moore et al.


Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 09:58 PM (SzZnW)


Sorry, but Matt was on our side.

Posted by: Paul Ryan (D-Wisc) at December 12, 2017 10:02 PM (sXefu)

1150 1123 Stupid Volvo Commercials.

These are the most retarded things ever.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2017 10:00 PM (RzgQJ)

---

That one with Van Damm (sp? kung fu guy) from a few years ago was really great.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 10:02 PM (T4n7S)

1151 Aaaaaaaaaand it's gone.

Moore's "lead", that is.

Posted by: DocJ at December 12, 2017 10:02 PM (7bkOX)

1152 Was it a smear?
***
The only evidence we've got is a faked yearbook entry. Seems pretty smearish.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2017 10:03 PM (Z8FFX)

1153 He could have had a little Humble Pie and ended up with 30 Days in the Hole

And some nice hash.

Posted by: dartist at December 12, 2017 10:03 PM (nisXv)

1154 jones about to go up

Posted by: #neverskankles at December 12, 2017 10:03 PM (/84uh)

1155 1128 Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 10:00 PM (BLayO)

He might accidentally say something sane and reasonable, like "well technically Moore never broke any law and asked the parents for permission."

Can't have that now can we?

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 10:03 PM (SzZnW)

1156 I don't think Moore's going to win now. He's too far within the margin of fraud unless a lot of uncounted votes remain in rural counties. =(

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at December 12, 2017 10:03 PM (N5dam)

1157 Van Damme Volvo commercial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 10:03 PM (T4n7S)

1158 1046 I love how I'm a weirdo because I don't think men in dresses should be using the same bathrooms as little girls, but I'm supposed to be blind with rage at the idea of a man in his 30s dating 16 and 17 year olds with their parents' approval.
Posted by: Bag of Dicks Salesman at December 12, 2017 09:53 PM (H5knJ)


... almost 40 years ago!!

The idea of a Sen. Moore makes me a little sick to my stomach, but it's still better than ANY Dem, and it doesn't have a damn thing to do with what this guy did or didn't do when back I was in High School.

Posted by: Optimizer at December 12, 2017 10:03 PM (EnK/R)

1159 Don't worry, if it's a tie I have a car trunk here with plenty of uncounted ballots.

Posted by: Frankenfurter at December 12, 2017 10:04 PM (LQLeS)

1160 Every non-GOPe candidate will have a handful of women come out to accuse them of something in October. I don't see any upside.
---
This.

And all the establishmentarians who succeeded in driving down GOP voter turnout tonight will be emboldened to do so again.

Posted by: Methos at December 12, 2017 10:04 PM (XQvuQ)

1161 "Alabama, you're giving the liberal media a victory, is that what you want?"

No, it's not what we want. You guys need to ask yourselves, why is it that the media ran this same playbook against Trump and he won Alabama in a blowout? Could it be possible, just POSSIBLE, that the problem here is not Trump, is not Alabama, it's Roy Moore.

"Going forward the Media is going to use this same playbook against every GOP nominee."

They've done that. They tried it against Ted Cruz and, you know what? Nobody bought it. Unfortunately Roy Moore is not Ted Cruz. Folks looked at Cruz and couldn't imagine him cheating on his wife. Folks look at Roy Moore and they see a sleaze.

We have to be more careful about whom we nominate, not everyone who latches on to the Trump agenda is a good person. Not everyone whom the establishment hates is a good person.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at December 12, 2017 10:02 PM (3ufaJ)

I'm sorry...did you not have a primary?

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 10:04 PM (Enq6K)

1162 So if Jones wins, does that mean that Franken has to resign?

-
No, it just means he has to think up another lie.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe today! Covfefe tomorrow! Covfefe forever! at December 12, 2017 10:04 PM (+y/Ru)

1163 Cock cock cock. Give me cock.

Posted by: Grand at December 12, 2017 10:04 PM (SkuXa)

1164 Drudge showing a dead heat.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 12, 2017 10:04 PM (0ogQG)

1165 Wolf is flat out cheerleading for Jones.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2017 10:04 PM (/tuJf)

1166 1111
"Millenials and woman are going to save our country" - CNN
Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 09:56 PM

One particular woman?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2017 09:58 PM (IqV8l)

Drunk, walleyed and ready!

*hic*
*shart*
THUD

Posted by: Hillary! at December 12, 2017 10:04 PM (NWiLs)

1167 I had a ballot. I loved that ballot. I named it Chad.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2017 10:04 PM (IqV8l)

1168 The pedophile smear worked. I pray folks get sued back to the dark ages.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 10:04 PM (g4lFK)

1169 I like to poop in teh sink

Posted by: Abalama voter at December 12, 2017 10:04 PM (qOaog)

1170 Well, at least we got a great, super duper, AG out of this deal

Posted by: sofa saver at December 12, 2017 10:05 PM (4u7kU)

1171 1151 Posted by: DocJ at December 12, 2017 10:02 PM (7bkOX)

YES, YAY ALRIGHT!

Ladies and Gents we have our moral superiority back AND spoiler alert probably Majority Leader Schumer if one GOPer switches.

AWESOME we lose, but we do it nobly.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 10:05 PM (SzZnW)

1172 Yeah but he thought drinking hemlock was a better idea than just leaving town, too.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 10:02 PM (39g3+)

That was Socrates

Posted by: Bill and Ted at December 12, 2017 10:05 PM (GsAUU)

1173 Yeah, I'm wondering who this "Grande" person is. I've never seen him before.

Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2017 10:05 PM (sdi6R)

1174 Looks like Jones is going to win, but not by much. So I guess CNN and the rest will go with the "Trump rebuked!" release rather than the "The GOP has sunk to a new low...." release. You know both are pre=written.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2017 10:05 PM (mc8++)

1175 I mean I was willing to go along with smear job until Moore went on Hannity and said that he did date girls in that age group in his 30s, but this particular girl was lying about it.

Then a few days later, he said he never dated underage girls.


Those two statements are not in conflict. 16 and above were not underage, and the 14 y.o. was lying.

There are two separate issues here that people keep trying to conflate.

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 12, 2017 10:05 PM (bZ7mE)

1176 Ladies and Gents we have our moral superiority back AND spoiler alert probably Majority Leader Schumer if one GOPer switches.

AWESOME we lose, but we do it nobly.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 10:05 PM (SzZnW)

Paging Jeff Flake, paging Mr. Jeff Flake.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 10:05 PM (yXU4O)

1177 It's 17 here and I was surprised. I just assumed it's 18 everywhere. It isn't. Some states it is still 14 or 15. Or at least it was some years ago.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 12, 2017 09:47 PM (4ErVI)

++++

Hawaii was the last state to have it lower than 16, theirs was 14, but they changed it to 16 a few years ago. Not sure about all our territories, but at least as far as the states go, it's 16 or older everywhere.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 10:06 PM (FUu/Z)

1178 Lamont, the truth is congrats buddy, you just handed the Dems a big win. Sucker. Tool.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V. at December 12, 2017 10:06 PM (P8951)

1179 I don't think Moore's going to win now. He's too far within the margin of fraud

-
Ah, the Franken zone.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe today! Covfefe tomorrow! Covfefe forever! at December 12, 2017 10:06 PM (+y/Ru)

1180 Folks looked at Cruz and couldn't imagine him cheating on his wife. Folks look at Roy Moore and they see a sleaze.

I think its more they saw Roy Moore and have been so trained by media to think of strong, outward Christians as hypocritical perverts, so they were more willing to buy into it. Moore isn't a very likable figure so I think it has a lot less to do with the pervy angle than just people not being super fond of him.

But either way: still way better than his opponent, and only for a short term. And better than 1 more Dem in the Senate to help block bills and nominations by Trump. So... If Alabama falls for this crap, its on them what happens next. And we won't forget it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 10:06 PM (39g3+)

1181 CNN still says tossup ('nail biting time')

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 10:06 PM (gYAkw)

1182 Yeah, I'm wondering who this "Grande" person is. I've never seen him before.

==

can be a "her" and..pretty common for elections

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2017 10:06 PM (QC/4S)

1183 *ONT is NOOD!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 12, 2017 10:06 PM (Ckg4U)

1184 I've suggest variations on this before, but we need a constitutional amendment to the effect that election results have to be tabulated in order of population.

EG, no results are tabulated until the big city reports its results. Then the second biggest and so on.

It would make it a lot harder for Philly or Seattle to produce an accurate number of fake votes...

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2017 10:06 PM (Z8FFX)

1185 That was Socrates Taylor...Aristotle said philosophy had enough martyrs and he did leave town.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 10:06 PM (BLayO)

1186 CNN orgasm incoming.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 10:06 PM (g4lFK)

1187 So we should use the Franken strategy and demand recount after recount after recount until we get the votes we want.

Posted by: Skywise at December 12, 2017 10:06 PM (858q0)

1188 ONT is up if folks are interested.

Posted by: Methos at December 12, 2017 10:06 PM (XQvuQ)

1189 Wellllll sh*t....

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at December 12, 2017 10:07 PM (ubJwS)

1190 too many blue precincts held up till the end ... the smear machine wins

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2017 10:07 PM (otAqJ)

1191 1176 Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 10:05 PM (yXU4O)

The important thing here is moral perfection.

I know the party of Al Franken, Bill Clinton and Harvey Weinstein has a lot to teach the GOP on morality.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 10:07 PM (SzZnW)

1192 I hope it is at least close enough for Moore to demand a recount and MAYBE shed some light on fraud.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at December 12, 2017 10:07 PM (N5dam)

1193 So who will flip first? Collins, Flake or McCain?

Posted by: #neverskankles at December 12, 2017 10:07 PM (N8JvG)

1194 Babies will be murdered.


But hey. Laura Ingraham got her 40 yr old scalp.

And Hannity followed her lead like a good little puppy.



Friends?

We have no friends.




FUCK FOX.

Posted by: Johnny K. at December 12, 2017 10:07 PM (dUOAV)

1195 There are two separate issues here that people keep trying to conflate.

This guy is doing it deliberately. I've gone round and round with them on other places and they all have exactly the same playbook. For once this dude hasn't pulled out the Pedo word ... yet. They love throwing that one out, even though it has nothing to do with the story.

Or Pederast, like Wynn earlier this morning. No, son. That's what Spacey is.

That was Socrates

Eh, they're all Greek to me

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 10:08 PM (39g3+)

1196 They don't count the blue votes until they figure out how many they need to find.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 10:08 PM (BLayO)

1197 One particular woman?
___
And my trusty Roy Moore pen!

Posted by: Woman who wrote Roy Moore's name in her year book at December 12, 2017 10:08 PM (Z8FFX)

1198 The rule used to be that they could filibuster a SCOTUS nominee. Perhaps you heard, the changed the rules and put Gorsuch on SCOTUS, even though they wouldn't have been able to under the old rules. They change the rules at will.

One again. THERE IS NO LAW. If they want to send him to ethics, they will.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 09:54 PM (pvjTE)

--------

Current "Senate Rules", lets call them "laws", do not allow what you suggest and apparently hope for.

Could they vote to change them? Sure.

Very unlikely scenario though, given the situation.

Delusion must be a fun pass time, but is not helpful in RW scenarios.

Be well, I am done with this topic with you.

Posted by: Side draft at December 12, 2017 10:08 PM (ohP/V)

1199 But this makes McConnel mad so I guess it's a win.

Posted by: Idiots who rallied around Moore at December 12, 2017 10:08 PM (vfNVK)

1200 Every single person I talked to, those who would vote for Moore no matter what, and those who would vote democrat no matter what all agreed that Moore was at the very least creepy.

Even with it being 40 years ago, a different time, the fact he was hitting on 16 year olds by his own admission is going to be worth 10% for sure.

Take the loss in stride, pick better candidates - and don't ever let the democrats forget the kind of people they supported in the past.

Regardless - after this I'm guessing Trump moves on the DOJ/FBI corruption pretty quickly... this will all be old news in a week.

Posted by: Reality Man at December 12, 2017 10:08 PM (Ch0fq)

1201 1173 Yeah, I'm wondering who this "Grande" person is. I've never seen him before.
Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2017 10:05 PM (sdi6R)


*LICK*

Posted by: Ariana Grande at December 12, 2017 10:08 PM (GsAUU)

1202 #1193, Collins and Flake will make a joint announcement.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at December 12, 2017 10:08 PM (N5dam)

1203 If Jones wins, I guess he'll cross the aisle to vote with the GOP whenever it doesn't matter

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at December 12, 2017 10:08 PM (vChNs)

1204 1193 Posted by: #neverskankles at December 12, 2017 10:07 PM (N8JvG)

Yes, yes and yes.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 10:09 PM (SzZnW)

1205
AWESOME we lose, but we do it nobly.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 10:05 PM


Bill Kristol and George Will can sleep soundly with a My Pillow.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2017 10:09 PM (IqV8l)

1206 >>Hawaii was the last state to have it lower than 16, theirs was 14, but they changed it to 16 a few years ago. Not sure about all our territories, but at least as far as the states go, it's 16 or older everywhere.


Because those Asia girls mature so much sooner than mainland girls do.
/

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 12, 2017 10:09 PM (Eu5eZ)

1207 So who will flip first? Collins, Flake or McCain?
***
Or maybe there will be a stampede and we'll get another special election?

Posted by: Woman who wrote Roy Moore's name in her year book at December 12, 2017 10:09 PM (Z8FFX)

1208 Nicely done, GOPe, #SalonHot25, and #TruCons. You and Egg McMuffin have provided UpChuck Schumer with a new reliable vote in the now (effectively) Democrat-controlled senate, sending a tax-and-spend, gun-grabbing, baby murdering extremist from Alabama - Ala-freaking-bama - to the US Senate.

Only cost you, like 50Mill or so, too. Cheap at twice the price, right?

Can we stop with the pleasantries and get this civil war started already>

Posted by: DocJ at December 12, 2017 10:09 PM (7bkOX)

1209 Wonder how many votes were bused in...

Posted by: Abiss at December 12, 2017 10:09 PM (L6Zpd)

1210 Looks like a lot more fraud than expected.

Posted by: conservativechick at December 12, 2017 10:09 PM (MAK6g)

1211 I love how I'm a weirdo because I don't think men in dresses should be using the same bathrooms as little girls, but I'm supposed to be blind with rage at the idea of a man in his 30s dating 16 and 17 year olds with their parents' approval.

Exactamundo

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 10:09 PM (39g3+)

1212 60% turn out in a special election? GTFOH.

Posted by: Abiss at December 12, 2017 10:09 PM (L6Zpd)

1213 1200 Every single person I talked to, those who would vote for Moore no matter what, and those who would vote democrat no matter what all agreed that Moore was at the very least creepy.

Even with it being 40 years ago, a different time, the fact he was hitting on 16 year olds by his own admission is going to be worth 10% for sure.

Take the loss in stride, pick better candidates - and don't ever let the democrats forget the kind of people they supported in the past.

Regardless - after this I'm guessing Trump moves on the DOJ/FBI corruption pretty quickly... this will all be old news in a week.
Posted by: Reality Man at December 12, 2017 10:08 PM (Ch0fq)

-----

Hey dumbass, you can't pick what you don't know.

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 10:09 PM (LnOh3)

1214 Ladies and Gents we have our moral superiority back AND spoiler alert probably Majority Leader Schumer if one GOPer switches.
---------------------------------

I predicted way back when that Trump would win, the GOP would hold the Senate and that enough GOPers (such as McShit) would switch and give the Senate to the Democrats out of "principle" (lol). I was wrong, but maybe only for a while.

Posted by: Mega at December 12, 2017 10:10 PM (rv0Fo)

1215 So... you can buy an election.

Posted by: Skywise at December 12, 2017 10:10 PM (858q0)

1216 Ingraham and Hannity were not crusading against Moore.
I heard Moores interview with Hannity. Moore was terrible.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V. at December 12, 2017 10:10 PM (P8951)

1217 The only reason these RINOs pretend to care about some 40 year old he said/she said is because what they actually wish for is another D in Washington to impede Trump's agenda.

It takes far less incentives(bribes) and political capital to shave away 2 R votes than 3, and it's one less squishy that loses their cover on close votes.

RINOs have gotten very afraid of conservatives winning, so they've all been desparately raving that Moore is a monster, not the guy who supports butchering babies up to a second before they would take their first breath.

Posted by: Sjg at December 12, 2017 10:10 PM (gDSJf)

1218 "1178 Lamont, the truth is congrats buddy, you just handed the Dems a big win. Sucker. Tool."

I voted for Brooks in the primary and I voted for Moore in the general. I didn't hand anyone anything bitch.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at December 12, 2017 10:10 PM (3ufaJ)

1219 Flake will absolutely be the first to flip.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 10:10 PM (yXU4O)

1220 1205 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2017 10:09 PM (IqV8l)

The GOPe wants to play games with wins that should be gimmees?

See ya in 2018 fellas.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 10:10 PM (SzZnW)

1221 Willwed from the last thread...

Ordered my cook-a-book yesterday, I can't wait to get it, new year's resolution will be to try one new recipe a week!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 12, 2017 06:59

Ours is supposed to arrive tomorrow. Dunc told me my 3 recipes made it, but I'm not sure what I submitted, yeah I'm a Moron.
I think we had one tonight, Depression Casserole, it was DELISH.
Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at December 12, 2017 09:51

Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at December 12, 2017 10:11 PM (yJ1e6)

1222 If Trump doesn't get the wall started soon then 2018 will likely turn out to be a bloodbath for the GOP.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at December 12, 2017 10:11 PM (AZD0r)

1223 So I guess baby murder, destroying the 2nd amendment, and raising taxes is cool.

Posted by: Jomcdowe at December 12, 2017 10:11 PM (q8OQc)

1224 If anything I really hope this shows Trump it's the GOP-E that truly wants to destroy him.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 12, 2017 10:11 PM (+dsLj)

1225 But this makes McConnel mad so I guess it's a win.

Mish McConnell is why we have Moore. He wanted Mo Brooks out of the race early.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 12, 2017 10:11 PM (tRaq7)

1226 Definitely disappointed in Alabama for making this close enough to the margin of fraud. But I've also been saying it for a while: a paralyzed Senate only makes actual Republicans put even more of their faith in President Trump. They hadn't moved on Obamacare with Luther Strange: were they really doing better with Roy Moore?

As it is, this will make the Republican base volcanically distrustful of McConnell and GOPe backed candidates.

Posted by: trev006 at December 12, 2017 10:11 PM (jRA31)

1227 If Moore loses the conservatives are dead - McConnell and Ryan won't give them the time of day and the Democrats certainly won't.

Posted by: Skywise at December 12, 2017 10:11 PM (858q0)

1228 jones is gonna win by bout 100k votes
media is gonna gush tonight
I may puke

Posted by: duncan at December 12, 2017 10:11 PM (ioCsx)

1229 You're the best Taylor...didn't mean to go all aspy on you.

1. Can they shut up and let Finn speak?

2. Could Finnegan maybe give a general trendish statement from time to time? He has that big autist power analysis going, but they hosts don't have the attention span to let him work.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 10:11 PM (BLayO)

1230 Breaking News: Trump didn't hold the door for some random feminist 30 years ago. IMPEACH HIM!!!!!!! NOW!!!!!!!!!


I fucking give up. This country is too stupid to live.

Posted by: LGoPs at December 12, 2017 10:12 PM (53wvk)

1231 FBN:

85% In


Dead tie

49.2% each

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 10:12 PM (Enq6K)

1232 From the Strzok/Page texts:

LP - And maybe you're meant to stay where you are because you're meant to protect the country from that menace.

PS - ... I can protect our country at many levels not sure if that helps.

Wow!

Posted by: IrishEi at December 12, 2017 10:12 PM (HiDrR)

1233 1193 So who will flip first? Collins, Flake or McCain?
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 12, 2017 10:07 PM (N8JvG)

How old is this comment ??

Posted by: sofa saver at December 12, 2017 10:12 PM (4u7kU)

1234 I keep wondering if Bannon knew this stuff all along and this is really a trap to bait the DNC into a moral circular firing squad. Tons of dirt drops on the Dems shoving their ugly bits where they don't belong every month until the 2018 elections?

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at December 12, 2017 10:12 PM (N5dam)

1235 140 votes apart according to FBN now.

Posted by: Methos at December 12, 2017 10:12 PM (XQvuQ)

1236 1212 Posted by: Abiss at December 12, 2017 10:09 PM (L6Zpd)

Fraud, *but* expected fraud.

The GOP is gonna come to the party in 2018 or 2020 and wonder where the white voters went.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 10:12 PM (SzZnW)

1237 "1223 So I guess baby murder, destroying the 2nd amendment, and raising taxes is cool. "

They wuz gonna call us stoopid!

Posted by: Skywise at December 12, 2017 10:12 PM (858q0)

1238 Mo Brooks for AL senate 2020

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2017 10:12 PM (otAqJ)

1239 If anything I really hope this shows Trump it's the GOP-E that truly wants to destroy him.
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen

_______

Trump endorsed the supposed GOPe candidate that ran against Moore

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 10:13 PM (uc45P)

1240 Lamont, you big dummy!

Posted by: Fred G. Sanford at December 12, 2017 10:13 PM (IqV8l)

1241 We discussed it a month or so ago, but it's just a matter of time before the South is blue, too. Between the locusts and the Reliable Urban Reliables, it's unavoidable.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 12, 2017 10:13 PM (T4n7S)

1242 So I guess baby murder, destroying the 2nd amendment, and raising taxes is cool.

If Moore loses, that's exactly what Alambamans are saying. "We're fine with partial birth abortion, banning guns, tax and spend, gutting the military, dudes in the girl's locker room, all of it!"

That's exactly what they are saying.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 10:13 PM (39g3+)

1243 "Millenials and women will save this country"

If Jones wins, it's because of the black turnout.....

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2017 10:13 PM (mc8++)

1244 1227 Posted by: Skywise at December 12, 2017 10:11 PM (858q0)

Sure and if Conservatives are dead to the GOP the GOPe will be dead within two cycles.

It'd akin to the donks saying to Blacks, "don't vote."

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 10:13 PM (SzZnW)

1245 You have to figure after this, now the Uniparty isn't going to push for just DACA Amnesty, but FULL Amnesty with Chain Migration Rights Expanded, or they'll do a shutdown.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 10:14 PM (yXU4O)

1246 "1203 If Jones wins, I guess he'll cross the aisle to vote with the GOP whenever it doesn't matter
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at December 12, 2017 10:08 PM (vChNs)"

Nope. He's going to go to Washington knowing that he's only got two years to live politically speaking. This seat will be back in Republican hands in 2020. He'll vote with Schumer 95% of the time. Guaranteed.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at December 12, 2017 10:14 PM (3ufaJ)

1247 1213 1200 Every single person I talked to, those who would vote for Moore no matter what, and those who would vote democrat no matter what all agreed that Moore was at the very least creepy.

Even with it being 40 years ago, a different time, the fact he was hitting on 16 year olds by his own admission is going to be worth 10% for sure.

Take the loss in stride, pick better candidates - and don't ever let the democrats forget the kind of people they supported in the past.

Regardless - after this I'm guessing Trump moves on the DOJ/FBI corruption pretty quickly... this will all be old news in a week.
Posted by: Reality Man at December 12, 2017 10:08 PM (Ch0fq)

-----

Hey dumbass, you can't pick what you don't know.

Perhaps - but there was a tea party candidate that I'm guessing would have won soundly tonight, so there were alternatives in earlier primaries that weren't GOPe stooges or polarizing to the point where some false accusations could bring them down,

Posted by: Reality Man at December 12, 2017 10:14 PM (Ch0fq)

1248 I keep wondering if Bannon knew this stuff all along and this is really a trap to bait the DNC into a moral circular firing squad. Tons of dirt drops on the Dems shoving their ugly bits where they don't belong every month until the 2018 elections?
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston

________

More like Bannon in an idiot that brought this mess to us in order to show what a "kingmaker" he is.

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 10:14 PM (uc45P)

1249
If Trump doesn't get the wall started soon then 2018 will likely turn out to be a bloodbath for the GOP.
---
The GOP congress has certainly earned it.

Posted by: Methos at December 12, 2017 10:14 PM (XQvuQ)

1250 Yep this sucks

Posted by: lousagirl at December 12, 2017 10:14 PM (PmCoA)

1251 86% In


Jones: 49.6%
Moore: 48.9%

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 10:15 PM (Enq6K)

1252 I'm really surprised it's this close. This will be the first statewide elected democrat in this century, I think. Our last Dem governor was Don Siegelman, elected in 1999.

Maybe we still had a Dem SC Justice after that, but not for long after that.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 10:15 PM (WbIyz)

1253
Ingraham and Hannity were not crusading against Moore.
===




The hell they weren't.

Posted by: Johnny K. at December 12, 2017 10:15 PM (dUOAV)

1254 The Free Shit Army gets more in Welfare than I do from a Full-Time Job.

On what planet is this sustainable?

And why are idiots voting for MORE of that?

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 10:15 PM (yXU4O)

1255 NYT has Jones' odds at 89%.

This truly sucks.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 12, 2017 10:15 PM (398bZ)

1256 1251 Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 10:15 PM (Enq6K)

"Mission Accomplished"

//Jake "Honest Abe" Tapper

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 10:15 PM (SzZnW)

1257 Don't go all wobbly on us Horde (although it looks like the fraud fix is in) -- Hillary still hasn't sung yet ...

Posted by: ShainS at December 12, 2017 10:15 PM (BiLU+)

1258 1242, no. This was a special case, this election. Alabama will remain a conservative state. And if Jones wants to be re-elected. he can't go full SJW,,,,,

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2017 10:16 PM (mc8++)

1259 CNN reporting that Selma came in.

49.3% Moore 49.1% Jones, 86% in

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 10:16 PM (gYAkw)

1260 Ooops....back to tied

49.2%

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 10:16 PM (Enq6K)

1261 but there was a tea party candidate that I'm guessing would have won soundly tonight

What's to stop the Washington Post from drumming something bizarre up about him? Or the next candidate? Or all of them? All it takes is a few stories, sinister sounding insinuations, and something out of their past that can be misinterpreted.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 10:16 PM (39g3+)

1262 GOP wants to lose in 2018.

And Wolf Blitzer just came in his pants.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 10:16 PM (g4lFK)

1263 God help you if you are a male in the United States.


Welcome to "No Evidence Required" America.



Posted by: Johnny K. at December 12, 2017 10:17 PM (dUOAV)

1264 CNN says Jones now ahead 553,935 - 553,118, 87% in

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 10:17 PM (gYAkw)

1265 No need for impeachment. ALABAMA just nullified the 2016 election.

Posted by: #neverskankles at December 12, 2017 10:17 PM (LS9kh)

1266 "1244 Sure and if Conservatives are dead to the GOP the GOPe will be dead within two cycles.

It'd akin to the donks saying to Blacks, "don't vote."

---
Nope. The GOPe has demonstrated that they are perfectly happy with minority control in the houses and the Dems are happy to give it to them to keep the illusion of democracy up - in fact they prefer it that way and they'll happily keep that. Eventually they might lose total control.. maybe... But McCain and McConnell will be dead and already have their legacies established.

As I've said elsewhere - it's time for a new political party.

Posted by: Skywise at December 12, 2017 10:17 PM (858q0)

1267 1262 GOP wants to lose in 2018.

And Wolf Blitzer just came in his pants.
Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 10:16 PM (g4lFK)

I just hope McVain doesn't serve long enough to be the deciding vote to Impeach.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 10:17 PM (yXU4O)

1268 Well, the media got their scalp. They waited until the choice was a pedo or a Democrat, and they achieved their goal. This was the plan for the Access Hollywood tape for Trump but it didn't work out because Trump is a dynamic figure and Moore is not. This will be their playbook for every Republican candidate, a propaganda boon and a fundraising bonanza for the commies.

Posted by: crrr6 (hotair refugee) at December 12, 2017 10:17 PM (f23HZ)

1269 Current "Senate Rules", lets call them "laws", do not allow what you suggest and apparently hope for.

Could they vote to change them? Sure.

Very unlikely scenario though, given the situation.

Delusion must be a fun pass time, but is not helpful in RW scenarios.

Be well, I am done with this topic with you.

Posted by: Side draft at December 12, 2017 10:08 PM (ohP/V)

++++

In the real world, we understand the difference between a law and a rule. They are different things, so we have different words for them. A Senate rule can be changed by the Senate alone. They don't need to run it be the House or POTUS. They just change it, as they did for Gorsuch.

They will send Moore to ethics, assuming he gets elected.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2017 10:17 PM (pvjTE)

1270 NOOD

Ace on texts. Not ONT.

Posted by: IrishEi at December 12, 2017 10:18 PM (HiDrR)

1271 Roy Moore
Al Franken
John McCain
Lil' Dibbie Stabenaw
Susan Collins
Gary Peters
Bernie Sanders
Ted Kennedy

Why, it's almost like the Founders had a good reason not to elect Senators by popular vote.

Damn shame they didn't write that down somewhere

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 12, 2017 10:18 PM (KCxzN)

1272 140 votes apart according to FBN now.


Posted by: Methos at December 12, 2017 10:12 PM (XQvuQ)
So no one has won yet?

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 10:18 PM (FTXAT)

1273 FBN just called it for Jones

Posted by: Methos at December 12, 2017 10:18 PM (XQvuQ)

1274 Game over, man ... Hillary is singing.

Posted by: ShainS at December 12, 2017 10:18 PM (BiLU+)

1275 1151 Aaaaaaaaaand it's gone.

Moore's "lead", that is.
-----------
Damn it to Kek, I go away for an hour and Alabama goes Blue. *facepalm* I guess it will be close, one way or another. BTW, to all the GOPe guys who wrote checks to the Democrat to spite Moore, fuck you very much!

Posted by: exdem13 at December 12, 2017 10:18 PM (W+kMI)

1276 FBN calling it for Jones.

Posted by: Optimizer at December 12, 2017 10:18 PM (EnK/R)

1277 56% Moore 42% Jones with about 1/2 precincts reporting, 23 of 67.

Thanks Cory and all the horde for the prayers and thanks Slap for including me on the list.

Even with my own seeking employment problems, I am blessed given my horde brethrens problems in their their own lives. My problem pales in comparison to theirs.

God bless us all and as the Grinch cartoon taught us Christmas still comes whether we have everything or whether we have nothing.. but Christmas still arrives no matter what.

Merry Christmas to all you all morons and moronettes. And to all...a good night!



Posted by: Alf767 at December 12, 2017 10:19 PM (wIl1K)

1278 I think with Jones winning, the Democrats are going to stop with the sexual harassment bullshit. They got their scalp--Moore. It served their purpose.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2017 10:19 PM (mc8++)

1279 Both these candidates are trash. Apparently, the baby killing extremist didnt smell as bad as the baby dating nutjob who road a horse to the polls today. SMH.

Pretty much a guarantee though that every republican candidate from here on out will have an accusation of sexual assault or rape or pedophile as am anchor around their neck moving forward. Its apparently effective, and doesnt need to necessarily be true. What would ever be done to the accuser? Nothing. Heres a fat paycheck from the DNC, now go sip Mahtais in Cancun, and thanks for the help! Girls will be lining up for the paychecks.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 12, 2017 10:19 PM (pUDQf)

1280 I think it's fair to judge the voters of Alabama now.

Posted by: Methos at December 12, 2017 10:19 PM (XQvuQ)

1281 too soon to blame the Russians?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at December 12, 2017 10:19 PM (vChNs)

1282 Even if the Senate could impeach- and throwing 2018 might result in a Bannon GOP before getting a two thirds majority- I don't think the President would go peacefully.

And he shouldn't.

Posted by: trev006 at December 12, 2017 10:19 PM (jRA31)

1283 1278 I think with Jones winning, the Democrats are going to stop with the sexual harassment bullshit. They got their scalp--Moore. It served their purpose.
---

Nope, they're going after Trump now - this isn't over by a long shot.

Posted by: Skywise at December 12, 2017 10:20 PM (858q0)

1284 FBN calls it for Jones.

Posted by: Tami at December 12, 2017 10:20 PM (Enq6K)

1285 GOP voters stayed home, it can be corrected next time round (2020?)

Posted by: potadas at December 12, 2017 10:20 PM (Nv1fr)

1286 Nothing to do but watch the Sec of State. Also of not is the write in vote is what is keeping it close. Thanks to the GOPe turds and Roy, he is a bit of a wack job also and that is no help.

Posted by: The Garbone at December 12, 2017 10:20 PM (9dH/8)

1287 FOX calling it.

Fuck.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 12, 2017 10:20 PM (Wtll+)

1288 man ALA coming up tiny.
first the Recusing AG, now an Abortionist to the Senate

Posted by: some friggin dope at December 12, 2017 10:20 PM (6OUNd)

1289 Baby dating? I swear people are idiots.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 10:20 PM (39g3+)

1290 1278 I think with Jones winning, the Democrats are going to stop with the sexual harassment bullshit. They got their scalp--Moore. It served their purpose.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2017 10:19 PM (mc8++)


Bad news for Wanken. If Moore loses, he's toast.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2017 10:20 PM (YqDXo)

1291 The 19th Amendment brought us
this nightmare


Welcome to America: "No Evidence Required: And Pray That Our Gossip Is In Your Favor"

Posted by: Johnny K. at December 12, 2017 10:21 PM (dUOAV)

1292 You folks do realize that most of the people in this country could give a rat's ass about this election.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2017 10:21 PM (mc8++)

1293 No need to thank us now.

Posted by: Smears R Us at December 12, 2017 10:21 PM (YqDXo)

1294 There are a lot of really stupid people in this country...and they vote.

Posted by: Not a Stupid RINO at December 12, 2017 10:21 PM (JjwF2)

1295 1278---hahahaha!
you were joking right

Posted by: some friggin dope at December 12, 2017 10:22 PM (6OUNd)

1296 Bad news for Wanken. If Moore loses, he's toast.


He will just be replaced with a smarter Democrat, so no help.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 10:22 PM (WbIyz)

1297 Jones won?

Fuck.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2017 10:22 PM (YqDXo)

1298 This got franken and conyers, franken's seat is in play if he actually resigns.

Posted by: potadas at December 12, 2017 10:22 PM (Nv1fr)

1299 1280 I think it's fair to judge the voters of Alabama now.
Posted by: Methos at December 12, 2017 10:19 PM (XQvuQ)

Youre going to blame people who were inundated with non-stop media blitz accusing Moore of molesting children? Okay.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 12, 2017 10:22 PM (pUDQf)

1300 1292 You folks do realize that most of the people in this country could give a rat's ass about this election.
---
You DO realize that most people in this country don't even understand how the government works or why this election was important.

Certainly the Alabama GOP people didn't but the DNC's GOTV funded with Soros dollars did.

Posted by: Skywise at December 12, 2017 10:22 PM (858q0)

1301
That's exactly what they are saying.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2017 10:13 PM (39g3+)

------------------------------------------------------

Personally I am at the point where if it comes down to gun rights vs. raising taxes on the super rich...I will support taxing the super rich.

Why are we defending a class of people who have sold us out time and again?

Might as well get some goodies and keep my guns and rights. That is going to be a winning argument in the near future.

Posted by: William Eaton at December 12, 2017 10:22 PM (MuTTO)

1302 1292 You folks do realize that most of the people in this country could give a rat's ass about this election.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2017 10:21 PM (mc8++)

Not true. I'm in PA, and EVERY LAST WOMAN in my office is going to be dancing at their desks over this.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 10:22 PM (yXU4O)

1303 I get to pick all of the future senate candidates
Fuck you very much,

Mitch the bitch

Posted by: sofa saver at December 12, 2017 10:22 PM (4u7kU)

1304 Take a bow, Gloria Allred.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2017 10:23 PM (YqDXo)

1305 NYT has a Jones win at over 95% likely.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 12, 2017 10:23 PM (398bZ)

1306 "Millenials and women will save this country"

If by "save" you mean "turn into a Third World shithole", then yes.

Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2017 10:23 PM (sdi6R)

1307 1285 Posted by: potadas at December 12, 2017 10:20 PM (Nv1fr)

Why?

I think next cycle the people who were willing to win now should sit it out.

"Moral Perfection My Asshole"

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 10:23 PM (SzZnW)

1308 Drudge calls it for Jones. ::puke::

Posted by: willy at December 12, 2017 10:23 PM (puf6g)

1309 DD just called it for Jones

Posted by: PabloD at December 12, 2017 10:23 PM (/7J2j)

1310 The CNN analyst says the suburbs were a big cause of the shift, swinging from 70% Trump to 55% Moore. Same thing happened in VA.

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 10:23 PM (gYAkw)

1311 Well if the media was correct yesterday that a Moore victory would really be a "loss" for the GOP, shouldn't we be celebrating? I mean, we won, right???

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2017 10:23 PM (mc8++)

1312 Well, Alabama is now represented by a pro baby killing, pro illeagal immigrant, gun control nut job.

WTF Alabama!!!

Posted by: Kreplach at December 12, 2017 10:24 PM (Wtll+)

1313 What's the recount threshold in AL?

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at December 12, 2017 10:24 PM (IAAMr)

1314 Well if the media was correct yesterday that a Moore victory would really be a "loss" for the GOP, shouldn't we be celebrating? I mean, we won, right???

A loss for Moore is also a loss for the GOP.

Get with the narative.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 10:24 PM (WbIyz)

1315 1217 The only reason these RINOs pretend to care about some 40 year old he said/she said is because what they actually wish for is another D in Washington to impede Trump's agenda.

It takes far less incentives(bribes) and political capital to shave away 2 R votes than 3, and it's one less squishy that loses their cover on close votes.

...

Posted by: Sjg at December 12, 2017 10:10 PM (gDSJf)


Add that to the list of blindingly obvious "revelations" this week. The Hillary investigation was a sham. The Mueller investigation is a corrupt coup attempt (destined for failure).

The GOPe - and their mouthpiece, NR - left no doubt about they're being a bunch of frauds who don't really stand for what they say they stand for, and surrender to the Dem media propaganda faster than than a Frenchman, or even an Iraqi. Like Obama betraying America and its allies, it's always been because they're really on THE OTHER SIDE.

Posted by: Optimizer at December 12, 2017 10:25 PM (EnK/R)

1316 1308 Drudge calls it for Jones. ::puke::
Posted by: willy at December 12, 2017 10:23 PM (puf6g)

-----------------------------------------------------
He can now go watch some gay porn...or whatever gets him off.

Posted by: William Eaton at December 12, 2017 10:25 PM (MuTTO)

1317 Nope they are going after President Trump next dont mess with the uniparty
Shame on Alabama
Kick their asses Clemson

Posted by: lousagirl at December 12, 2017 10:25 PM (PmCoA)

1318 GOP voters stayed home, it can be corrected next time round (2020?)
---
Yeah, and the proscribed correction will once again be 'choose the leftmost candidate in the GOP primary', with entirely predictable results.

Posted by: Methos at December 12, 2017 10:25 PM (XQvuQ)

1319 I would say what would be real justice right now would be if two republican senators flip, taking control from Mitch. However, I'm not sure if that is exactly what he wants.

Posted by: sofa saver at December 12, 2017 10:25 PM (4u7kU)

1320 So we have a GOPe fossil and a Soros-backed Schumer clone as Senators.

Fucking great.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 12, 2017 10:26 PM (398bZ)

1321 CNN calls it for Jones.

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 10:26 PM (gYAkw)

1322 1301 Personally I am at the point where if it comes down to gun rights vs. raising taxes on the super rich...I will support taxing the super rich.

Why are we defending a class of people who have sold us out time and again?

Might as well get some goodies and keep my guns and rights. That is going to be a winning argument in the near future.
Posted by: William Eaton at December 12, 2017 10:22 PM (MuTTO)

You're going to see more and more of this the more that Steyer, Buffett, Bezos, Musk, and Zuckerfuck run their mouths.

Nobody's going to feel bad about changing the laws so they can't hide all of their billions in "foundations" anymore, when they keep pushing for turning us into a third-world tinpot dictatorship.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 10:26 PM (yXU4O)

1323 There are a lot of really stupid people in this country...and they vote.
---
That's the inevitable consequence of universal sufferage.

Posted by: Methos at December 12, 2017 10:26 PM (XQvuQ)

1324 0.5% margin of victory the losing candidate can request a recount

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at December 12, 2017 10:26 PM (IAAMr)

1325 1313 What's the recount threshold in AL?
---
No more than 0.5 percent of all votes cast for the office. That means the recount threshold will be a margin of somewhere between 5,000

Posted by: jrg at December 12, 2017 10:27 PM (z7fkn)

1326 You've been played, Alabama, and now you and the whole country are gonna pay for it.

Posted by: Optimizer at December 12, 2017 10:27 PM (EnK/R)

1327 I'm usually a pessimist, but maybe this is good in a way. Moore won't be a lightning rod. I mean, let's face it--the ten-gallon hat ( which the media loves to show) doesn't play well.....

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2017 10:27 PM (mc8++)

1328 Not like the GOP was going to let Moore in anyway. They already had contingency plans to not seat him. Winning the election would just have been the start of Moores problems.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 12, 2017 10:27 PM (pUDQf)

1329 Well that sucks

Posted by: conservativechick at December 12, 2017 10:27 PM (MAK6g)

1330 "Millenials and women will save this country"

Based on their contributions so far? Bupkis.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2017 10:27 PM (YqDXo)

1331 Will Jones have to watch his ass like Manchin? I think he will if he wants to remain a senator.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 10:27 PM (BLayO)

1332 And the yearbook signature was a fake...

Posted by: Skywise at December 12, 2017 10:28 PM (858q0)

1333 1327 I'm usually a pessimist, but maybe this is good in a way. Moore won't be a lightning rod. I mean, let's face it--the ten-gallon hat ( which the media loves to show) doesn't play well.....
Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2017 10:27 PM (mc8++)

All it takes is one person to flip and Schumer is Majority Leader.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 10:28 PM (yXU4O)

1334 If you are a conservative in Alabama and didn't vote then you need to keep your fucking mouth shut for the next two years.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at December 12, 2017 10:28 PM (AZD0r)

1335 1313 What's the recount threshold in AL?
---
No more than 0.5
percent of all votes cast for the office.

Posted by: jrg at December 12, 2017 10:29 PM (z7fkn)

1336 Youre going to blame people who were inundated with non-stop media blitz accusing Moore of molesting children? Okay.
---
Yes.

They are worthless sheep.

Posted by: Methos at December 12, 2017 10:29 PM (XQvuQ)

1337 1333 Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 10:28 PM (yXU4O)

How ya doin?

//Jeff Flake

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 10:29 PM (SzZnW)

1338 Will Jones have to watch his ass like Manchin? I think he will if he wants to remain a senator.


Two years and out.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 10:29 PM (WbIyz)

1339 Certainly the Alabama GOP people didn't but the DNC's GOTV funded with Soros dollars did.

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Lot of truth in this. Was there any GOP voter effort?

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 10:29 PM (LnOh3)

1340 Realistically, from here on out, no presumption of innocence of any Red. The slightest whiff of allegation and we demand impalement.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2017 10:29 PM (YqDXo)

1341 CNN reporting 49.7% Jones, 48.6% Moore, 91% in
"This is a huge defeat for President Trump."

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 10:30 PM (gYAkw)

1342 1337 1333 Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 10:28 PM (yXU4O)

How ya doin?

//Jeff Flake
Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 10:29 PM (SzZnW)

At least I don't believe in magic underpants.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 10:30 PM (yXU4O)

1343 I hope Alabama is going to be proud of becoming a Democrat state. I thought they were strongly Republican. My bad.

Posted by: AnnaS at December 12, 2017 10:30 PM (l4l/z)

1344 Romney, Flake, McCain and McConnell high-fiving right now.

Posted by: Skywise at December 12, 2017 10:31 PM (858q0)

1345 1338 Will Jones have to watch his ass like Manchin? I think he will if he wants to remain a senator.


Two years and out.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 10:29 PM (WbIyz)

They're going to press their advantage for Full Amnesty, and once that happens, Permanent D Control Everywhere.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 10:31 PM (yXU4O)

1346 With 57 0f 67 counties reporting, Alabama Sec of State has Jones ahead by 9,000 or so.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 10:31 PM (FTXAT)

1347 All it takes is one person to flip and Schumer is Majority Leader.

Two. One flip will make it 50-50, after the new year.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 10:31 PM (WbIyz)

1348 This just in: Gloria Allred has, in an admission against interest, claimed that she has a copy of the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" that is totes authentic, but she refuses to let anyone validate it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2017 10:31 PM (YqDXo)

1349 I am furious. The only way a dem could win here is to f'ing steal it with their fake allegations and cooperation from the gope and soros. They f'ing robbed us of our representation. Btw, Jones is on his 3rd marriage, but hid all his skeletons, and dems protect their own. So pissed.

Posted by: Chelle at December 12, 2017 10:31 PM (QG9T0)

1350 At least we won't get the shitshow of the GOPe refusing to seat Moore--

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2017 10:32 PM (mc8++)

1351 Interesting! It was not a huge defeat for Trump! He endorsed the other Republican.

Taylor, have you read the Foundation? Trump is the fucking Mule.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 10:32 PM (BLayO)

1352 1342 Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 10:30 PM (yXU4O)

I don't believe in wearing ANY pants.....and I am STILL A SENATOR!

//Al Franken

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 10:32 PM (SzZnW)

1353 1336 Youre going to blame people who were inundated with non-stop media blitz accusing Moore of molesting children? Okay.
---
Yes.

They are worthless sheep.
----
Are sheep that stupid?

Posted by: Not a Stupid RINO at December 12, 2017 10:32 PM (JjwF2)

1354 1328 Not like the GOP was going to let Moore in anyway. They already had contingency plans to not seat him. Winning the election would just have been the start of Moores problems.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 12, 2017 10:27 PM (pUDQf)

--------------------------------------

Now we can have -

A Leftist vote from Alabama in the Senate
A potential impeachment of Trump
A new invigorated media
A GOP back firmly under the control of "e".

And for what? It would have been better if Moore won they they kicked him out...this is worse, much worse.

Posted by: William Eaton at December 12, 2017 10:32 PM (MuTTO)

1355 1304 Take a bow, Gloria Allred.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2017 10:23 PM (YqDXo)

Moore said he would sue these accusers if he won or lost.

He's going to have a lot of time to dedicate to his lawsuit now.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at December 12, 2017 10:32 PM (AZD0r)

1356 I hope Alabama is going to be proud of becoming a Democrat state. I thought they were strongly Republican. My bad.

Geez. One election this Century. Tough crowd. You must all live on Oklahoma or something.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 10:32 PM (WbIyz)

1357 Well, I'll be f*cked. I go away for a while come back and you guys f*cked this whole thing up.


So the suburbs have gone blue ~ the suburbs have gotten very, very stupid.. The cities do NOT like you. They want you destroyed and, before that, they want you to give them every last dollar that you have, and your children.

And I still think everything that was raised against Moore was a lie.

Oh well ~ the voters of Alabama deserve to get the government they voted for ~ and they deserve to get it good and hard. Enjoy high taxes, trannies in your daughter's bathrooms and a Mexican national taking your job . . . and your kids'. En~fucking~joy.

Posted by: Publius Redux at December 12, 2017 10:33 PM (0YSzp)

1358 1353 Are sheep that stupid?
Posted by: Not a Stupid RINO at December 12, 2017 10:32 PM (JjwF2)

Sheep are related to goats, and goats let Muslims fuck them.

So take that as you will.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 10:33 PM (yXU4O)

1359 I hope Alabama is going to be proud of becoming a Democrat state. I thought they were strongly Republican. My bad.
---
Hey I'm sure they can tell themselves they stood by their principles or something.

Posted by: Methos at December 12, 2017 10:33 PM (XQvuQ)

1360 Now Moore down about 21,000

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 10:33 PM (FTXAT)

1361 The lesson of this election, Jones successfully hid his connection to the national Democrats. The people of Alabama will suffer for 4 years (unexpired Sessions term).

Time to put everything we have into the mid terms to keep the house and get closer to 60 in the senate. We need to work to replace Flake and that other douche from TN with constitutional conservatives.

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at December 12, 2017 10:33 PM (IAAMr)

1362 I never had a problem with Luther Strange's voting record. His being buddies with McConnell was a major negative... though not as much as Moore's cradle robbing.

Really wantes this seat as a leason to the smear merchants. At least now Bannon and Moore can fund fraud charges against Bev Nelson?

Ha, I can dream.

Posted by: trev006 at December 12, 2017 10:34 PM (jRA31)

1363 1354 Now we can have -

A Leftist vote from Alabama in the Senate
A potential impeachment of Trump
A new invigorated media
A GOP back firmly under the control of "e".

And for what? It would have been better if Moore won they they kicked him out...this is worse, much worse.
Posted by: William Eaton at December 12, 2017 10:32 PM (MuTTO)

You forgot Full Gang-of-8 Amnesty.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 10:34 PM (yXU4O)

1364 Let's do a little math here.

Moore "saying Familes were stronger during slavery "

vs

Jones: actual dead babies and body part sales

Bloody fuckin hell.


America is now run by Title IX and estrogen.

Posted by: Johnny K. at December 12, 2017 10:34 PM (sNwPN)

1365 1353 1336 Youre going to blame people who were inundated with non-stop media blitz accusing Moore of molesting children? Okay.

___

If you are a conservative Republican in Alabama and you did not vote for Moore then you should be horsewhipped for being one stupid fucker.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at December 12, 2017 10:34 PM (AZD0r)

1366 Bannon needs to use this as a learning tool.

He needs to build a GOTV effort because you can guarantee the RNC will not help anyone they deem insufficiently establishment.

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 10:34 PM (LnOh3)

1367 Jake Tapper sez child abuser Roy Moore will be held around Trump's neck in 2020. Unreal.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 10:35 PM (g4lFK)

1368 Moore got the Romney treatment, people stayed home on voting day, the drama was a bit too much, accusations everywhere and him denying everything. Had he said he is a changed man, that he is not who he was 40 years on...

Posted by: potadas at December 12, 2017 10:35 PM (Nv1fr)

1369 Moore said he would sue these accusers if he won or lost.



He's going to have a lot of time to dedicate to his lawsuit now.
---
I hope he publicly and utterly destroys their lives.

That's pretty much the only thing that could make this scam less likely in the future.

Posted by: Methos at December 12, 2017 10:36 PM (XQvuQ)

1370 Guys cut it with the gloom and doom... amnesty is not going to be passed even the Senate flips. The House is still R.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 10:36 PM (FTXAT)

1371 I wonder if Trump coming out vocally in favor of Moore --at the end--helped or hurt?

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2017 10:36 PM (mc8++)

1372 I hope he publicly and utterly destroys their lives.


Is it too much to ask that someone get Allred disbarred?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 10:36 PM (WbIyz)

1373 Tapper just said taint.

Posted by: Monk at December 12, 2017 10:37 PM (g4lFK)

1374 1370 Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 10:36 PM (FTXAT)

"sure it is....sure it is"

//Paul "Munster" Ryan

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 10:37 PM (SzZnW)

1375 Certainly the Alabama GOP people didn't but the DNC's GOTV funded with Soros dollars did.

"The pair of Washington-based super PACs are two of the largest in Democratic politics. Priorities spent at least $190 million to try and elect Clinton in 2016, while Senate Majority spent more than $90 million in that election cycle. The groups have collected checks from a gamut of top Democratic donors, led by longtime party contributors like George Soros, Jim Simons, Haim Saban and Fred Eychaner."

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/pj- gladnick/2017/12/11/ alabama-politico-reveals-secret-funding-democrat-candidate-doug

Remove spaces. (Tiny URL burped on this one.)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2017 10:37 PM (YqDXo)

1376 I wonder if Trump coming out vocally in favor of Moore --at the end--helped or hurt?


Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2017 10:36 PM (mc8++)

I would guess he helped.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 10:37 PM (FTXAT)

1377 Bannon needs to use this as a learning tool.

He needs to build a GOTV effort because you can guarantee the RNC will not help anyone they deem insufficiently establishment.
Posted by: MAGA

_______

Or not back stupid candidates in the first place.

Moore was a train wreck everyone could see coming. But he thought it would be a way to flip off McConnell and Trump.

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 10:37 PM (uc45P)

1378 Time to put everything we have into the mid terms to keep the house and
get closer to 60 in the senate. We need to work to replace Flake and
that other douche from TN with constitutional conservatives.
---
Good luck when the rape allegations come up against those guys.

Posted by: Methos at December 12, 2017 10:38 PM (XQvuQ)

1379 CNN partying like it's 1999.

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 10:38 PM (gYAkw)

1380 Tapper is a douche. Moore is gone. He won't be hung around Trump's neck in 2020....He's gone, out of the picture, and no one is going to remember him.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2017 10:38 PM (mc8++)

1381 Now Moore is down 16,300 with 63 of 67 counties reporting.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 10:39 PM (FTXAT)

1382

Or not back stupid candidates in the first place.

Moore was a train wreck everyone could see coming. But he thought it would be a way to flip off McConnell and Trump.
Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 10:37 PM (uc45P)

-----

Bullshit.

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 10:39 PM (LnOh3)

1383 I just did the "types/deletes" thing about how I feel about Richard Shelby.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 12, 2017 10:39 PM (398bZ)

1384 Posted by: Grande

Why are you still here, useless as fuck troll? The game is over.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 10:39 PM (WbIyz)

1385 And there's your confirmation.

Grande is indeed the Ten Mile Tomato.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 10:39 PM (yXU4O)

1386 1378 Posted by: Methos at December 12, 2017 10:38 PM (XQvuQ)

Then it'll be MY turn to be moral...

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 10:40 PM (SzZnW)

1387 I just wanna know one thing.

Does this mean that Franken has to follow through and actually resign?

Posted by: gebrauchshund at December 12, 2017 10:40 PM (fYnUU)

1388 1381 Now Moore is down 16,300 with 63 of 67 counties reporting.
Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 10:39 PM (FTXAT)

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Backwoods pull through.

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 10:40 PM (LnOh3)

1389 1371 I wonder if Trump coming out vocally in favor of Moore --at the end--helped or hurt?
Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2017 10:36 PM (mc8++)

I don't think it made a lot of difference, but that is still not good considering Trump won the state by 28 points.

Zero miles of wall have been built. People have noticed.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at December 12, 2017 10:40 PM (AZD0r)

1390 Now Moore is down 16,300 with 63 of 67 counties reporting.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 10:39 PM (FTXAT)



------



Backwoods pull through.

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 10:40 PM (LnOh3)

Well Jones lead shrunk with the latest report so...

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 10:41 PM (FTXAT)

1391 1383---Shelby hurt Moore. Bigly. He signaled to Republican voters that it was okay to stay home....

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2017 10:41 PM (mc8++)

1392 I think we should amnesty the Dreamers. Here's how we do it.

We say the dreamers are Americans. They deserved to be citizens. They deserve to vote.

BUT, we have to have border security. For every child that makes it here illegally, ten more die. Our border policy is killing millions of innocent women and children. It must be secured to stop that.

Lets secure the border because that saves lives, and let's grant amnesty to the dreamers because that is the right thing to do.

All it takes is Trump to drive that and insist on border security first.

The dreamers are Americans. I talk to them every day. If Trump could get that border locked down first, and then amnesty them, that would create loyalty among a lot of them. I promise you, despite what you see on TV, they get the American dream, and they want it.

Consider this: what minority group constitutes the fastest growing segment of entrepreneurs? You know who it is.

My neighbor Rudi owns a painting company. Do you know what kind of Christmas lights he has? Hint, they are not lights Texas Dave would approve of.

In other words, he is a man that would prefer to keep his hard earned money. Because he built that.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 10:41 PM (BLayO)

1393 1383 I just did the "types/deletes" thing about how I feel about Richard Shelby.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 12, 2017 10:39 PM (398bZ)

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He's 83, hitting Thad Cohran territory.

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 10:42 PM (LnOh3)

1394
Why are you still here, useless as fuck troll? The game is over.
Posted by: Grump928(C)

_____

Not a troll, proudly voted for Trump

Pissed that idiot conservatives rallied around a SoCon weirdo that dated children and wanted to lock up gay people.

Moore should have been pushed out, but everyone made it about the Turtle and getting even with him.

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 10:42 PM (uc45P)

1395 I blame Nick Saban.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 12, 2017 10:42 PM (rnXGe)

1396 1389 Posted by: Reggie1971 at December 12, 2017 10:40 PM (AZD0r)

This emboldens the McCain gang to agitate for some form of Amigo Grande, that will cost the GOP the House and Senate in 2018, and probably Trump 2020....

and then 2020 will be the last election the GOP is competitive in at all for 50 years.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 10:42 PM (SzZnW)

1397 and let's grant amnesty to the dreamers because that is the right thing to do.

What do you do with their parents?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 10:43 PM (WbIyz)

1398 1395 Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 12, 2017 10:42 PM (rnXGe)

Well it's Trump's fault the NFL went commie so Saban may as well be why Alabama did so.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 10:43 PM (SzZnW)

1399 In fairness, it's not really expected to be in their skill set.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2017 09:12 PM (leCj4)

I knew a guy in the RCMP who took extensive training in accident investigation in the U.S. Retired from the RCMP, moved back to his home Province, and opened a consultancy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2017 10:43 PM (oPNmq)

1400 Next they will be saying that this means Trump will be impeached. This is really bad. I hope you are happy Alabama. What idiots you are!

Posted by: AnnaS at December 12, 2017 10:43 PM (l4l/z)

1401 [Not a troll

Ha! Useless as fuck lying troll.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 10:43 PM (WbIyz)

1402 OK

So here's how it's shaking down:

Jones 49.6%

Moore 48.8%

Write ins ( so that's GOPe) 1.7%

So there you have it: The GOPe ( and a grinned up Dem base, not mostly the GOPe , have given away a senate seat to the Lefties so that the swamp folks in the DC GOPe s contingent can still go to fashionable cocktail parties. had there been no write ins Moore weeks out a win. There were only write ins because the GOPe supported it.

Alabama is well and truly f*cked.


the suburbs are well and truly f*cked.

The black community is well and truly f*cked

We are all, now, well and truly f*cked.

Non stop " rebuke to TrumP stories 24~7 until 2020

f*ck!!

**Spits*** just destroyed all the euphoria over the cookbook. Dammit.

Posted by: Publius Redux at December 12, 2017 10:44 PM (0YSzp)

1403 Charles Barkley asked Alabamians to:
'Stop looking like idiots'
...
They failed

Posted by: Not a Stupid RINO at December 12, 2017 10:44 PM (JjwF2)

1404 What do you do with their parents?
-----------------

types

Posted by: Mega at December 12, 2017 10:44 PM (rv0Fo)

1405 Pissed that idiot conservatives rallied around a SoCon weirdo that dated children and wanted to lock up gay people.



Moore should have been pushed out, but everyone made it about the Turtle and getting even with him.



Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 10:42 PM (uc45P)

Kim Davis thinks you are funny.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 10:45 PM (FTXAT)

1406 You forgot Full Gang-of-8 Amnesty.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 10:34 PM (yXU4O)

Only if Trump signs it. Think that'll happen?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 12, 2017 10:45 PM (rnXGe)

1407 1392 Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 10:41 PM (BLayO)

of course....Rudi doesn't really want guns around, and he probably supports "hate speech laws" and he has a few nieces, nephews, and cousins that need to come visit....

but hey he is a true blue Americano at heart and will vote with his newfound appreciation of Anglic liberty.

//California

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 10:45 PM (SzZnW)

1408 Grande is a troll. Leave here please.

Posted by: AnnaS at December 12, 2017 10:46 PM (l4l/z)

1409 You forgot Full Gang-of-8 Amnesty.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 10:34 PM (yXU4O)

Only if Trump signs it. Think that'll happen?


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 12, 2017 10:45 PM (rnXGe)

And only if the House is willing to commit political suicide.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 10:46 PM (FTXAT)

1410 1394
Why are you still here, useless as fuck troll? The game is over.
Posted by: Grump928(C)

_____

Not a troll, proudly voted for Trump

Pissed that idiot conservatives rallied around a SoCon weirdo that dated children and wanted to lock up gay people.

Moore should have been pushed out, but everyone made it about the Turtle and getting even with him.
Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 10:42 PM (uc45P)

------

You know what's even more weird? Men dressing as women and cutting off their dicks. Chopping up infants moments from birth and parting out for sale.

That's pretty fucking weird.

But I can see that Moore wasn't pure enough.

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 10:46 PM (LnOh3)

1411 Maddow should not be on TeeVee. She has some kind of a speech impairment.

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2017 09:18 PM (QC/4S)

Her underwear muffles her words.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2017 10:47 PM (oPNmq)

1412 Well, I'm disappointed. My county voted +17K for Moore. Best I could do.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 10:48 PM (WbIyz)

1413 I'm going to go knock back a shot or two and go to bed, wishing ill on Mitch McConnell and Richard Shelby.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 10:49 PM (WbIyz)

1414 Grump,

Oh well, hope Bannon can use this as a learning opportunity.

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2017 10:49 PM (LnOh3)

1415 Now Jones lead down to 7,000. A little bit further and there will be an automatic recount.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 10:49 PM (FTXAT)

1416 I wanted Moore to win but only because of Party and it looks like Alabama folk in the Party couldn't get behind him. Turnout was low. That said, the write in vote -nearly 2%- is what did Moore in.

Losing the presumption of innocence is a terrible thing but I don't imagine it was much different in colonial times.

De Tocqueville said that he never knew a more conformist lot than Americans.

Posted by: Trump: I never cared for Moore at December 12, 2017 10:50 PM (Bt7Nk)

1417 Jones 49.5%, Moore 48.8%, 99% in. %0.8 diff. Need 0.5% or smaller for a recount IIRC.

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 10:50 PM (gYAkw)

1418 Sven, you have Rudi confused with a rich, white, elite matriculated millenial. Your kids.
//Texas

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 10:51 PM (BLayO)

1419 1418 Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 10:51 PM (BLayO)

Kid singular Ese, Rudi will have 24 or so by the time he is my age.

//New Mexico

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 10:52 PM (SzZnW)

1420 1400 Next they will be saying that this means Trump will be impeached. This is really bad. I hope you are happy Alabama. What idiots you are!
Posted by: AnnaS at December 12, 2017 10:43 PM (l4l/z)

Stop with the wide brush, please. Not everyone here is an idiot. And everyone would be wise to remember what kind of position Alabama voters were in. An accused pedophile or a certified baby killer. Great fucking choices.

And quit acting like anything short of a tactical nuke is going to fix that shit hole Washington. Ronald fucking Reagan couldnt dent the evil that has infested our government. Da fuck would Moore do aside from cause controversy for four years? These fuckers have the entire senate and the presidency and cant get a thing done.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 12, 2017 10:52 PM (pUDQf)

1421 Jones 49.5%, Moore 48.8%, 99% in. %0.8 diff. Need 0.5% or smaller for a recount IIRC.

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 10:50 PM (gYAkw)

My understanding is .5% of total votes difference is the trigger. So about 5,191 votes would be .5% (thus far).

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 10:52 PM (FTXAT)

1422 A little bit further and there will be an automatic recount.

Now that would be sweet. Jefferson County is rife with fraud.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 10:53 PM (WbIyz)

1423 Now Jones lead is down to a little over 6000 with 64 of 67 precincts reporting.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 10:54 PM (FTXAT)

1424 1420
And quit acting like anything short of a tactical nuke is going to fix that shit hole Washington. Ronald fucking Reagan couldnt dent the evil that has infested our government. Da fuck would Moore do aside from cause controversy for four years? These fuckers have the entire senate and the presidency and cant get a thing done.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 12, 2017 10:52 PM (pUDQf)
---

Well they have even LESS of it now! That's oh so helpful dontcha think?

Posted by: Skywise at December 12, 2017 10:54 PM (858q0)

1425 Moore should have been pushed out, but everyone made it about the Turtle and getting even with him.
Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 10:42 PM (uc45P)

Jones is an abortion extremist. I would vote for the pro-life Republican claiming an alien abduction experience complete with anal probes over a pro-abortion Democrat.

Posted by: troyriser at December 12, 2017 10:55 PM (raGQi)

1426 "1356 I hope Alabama is going to be proud of becoming a Democrat state. I thought they were strongly Republican. My bad.

Geez. One election this Century. Tough crowd. You must all live on Oklahoma or something."

I know right? Everyone is to blame for this except the one fucking guy who should have NEVER lost a Senate seat in Alabama.

And to everyone who has suddenly become an expert on Alabama politics in the past few week, yes, Roy Moore is a train wreck. You guys just chose (and it appears are still choosing) to look the other way.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at December 12, 2017 10:55 PM (3ufaJ)

1427
Well they have even LESS of it now! That's oh so helpful dontcha think?
Posted by: Skywise at December 12, 2017 10:54 PM (858q0)

I guess the whole we currently have the entire congress and the presidency and cant overturn Obamacare or get Clinton investigated just goes whoosh over your head. The results would be the same either way, Moore or no more.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 12, 2017 10:56 PM (pUDQf)

1428 Jones is an abortion extremist. I would vote for the
pro-life Republican claiming an alien abduction experience complete
with anal probes over a pro-abortion Democrat.

Posted by: troyriser at December 12, 2017 10:55 PM (raGQi)

This.
Grande, you are either an idiot or a Democrat (but I repeat myself) if you preferred Jones.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 10:57 PM (FTXAT)

1429 Damn, Sven. You rely hard on the stereotype don't you?

But, education matters and you know it. I eat often at this Italian restaurant and a dreamer waits on me. I request him. He is super professional and speaks perfect English. He has been in America since he was three. He goes to college and he majors in computer science. He is not a citizen, but he is an American, one hundred percent.

Whether you like it or not Sven, he is not going to be deported. We can keep giving him the message that Republicans do not want him here, or we can help him realize the American dream.

But, FIRST, we must secure the border.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 10:57 PM (BLayO)

1430 Guys Moore is now ahead according to the Alabama Sec. of State.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 10:58 PM (FTXAT)

1431 Grande has been running his mouth all night, how many trolls were here tonite

Posted by: lousagirl at December 12, 2017 10:59 PM (PmCoA)

1432 1423 Now Jones lead is down to a little over 6000 with 64 of 67 precincts reporting.
------
I'm interested to see where this goes by tomorrow. Moore should hold off on conceding.

Posted by: willy at December 12, 2017 10:59 PM (puf6g)

1433 Something tells me Matt Drudge is just slightly happy to see Bannon and Breitbart knocked down a peg. Guess he didnt like the competition.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 12, 2017 11:00 PM (pUDQf)

1434 With 66 of 67 counties reporting, Moore is 6,000 ahead. I repeat MOORE IS 6,000 AHEAD.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:00 PM (FTXAT)

1435 1429 Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 10:57 PM (BLayO)

Education is controlled by western civ hating communists, and Rudi will have 14 people here before the border being secure is even spoken of.

I have seen this movie in the original Klingon in 1986 when I was 14.

I also know what Juarez looks like first hand.

Ole.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 11:00 PM (SzZnW)

1436 This.
Grande, you are either an idiot or a Democrat (but I repeat myself) if you preferred Jones.
Posted by: redbanzai

_____

The idiots are the ones that pretended dating 14 year olds was no big deal.

I would have voted Moore over Jones, but Moore should have been pushed out

But idiot conservatives thought that would mean "McConnell wins" and freaked out about it and threw a fit

Well, you got your chance and you lost a seat we should have won by 20 points.

But you showed Mitch McConnell who's boss.

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 11:00 PM (uc45P)

1437 (Whips out calculator) 1,194,140 total votes so far. 0.5% of that is 6471, actual diff is 8944 (0.69%).

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 11:00 PM (gYAkw)

1438 1 county left to report, but Moore now ahead .45%. There may be hope left.

Posted by: Chuck Finley at December 12, 2017 11:00 PM (Zaak5)

1439 I mean 1,294,140

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 11:00 PM (gYAkw)

1440 To Grande...Moore never dated 14 years old you great big tool.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:01 PM (FTXAT)

1441 1430 Guys Moore is now ahead according to the Alabama Sec. of State.
---
Do tell.

Posted by: willy at December 12, 2017 11:01 PM (puf6g)

1442 538 strikes out again?

Posted by: Skywise at December 12, 2017 11:01 PM (858q0)

1443 People will remember that Trump stood by the guy when everyone else ran for cover, stood for the values Moore affirmed. Many sat this one out. The only antidote would have been to fabricate or discover sex accusations against Jones. But Franken and Conyers were casualties too, the Dems assumed Moore would win. Too clever by half.

Posted by: potadas at December 12, 2017 11:01 PM (OpeHI)

1444 Guys, Moore is ahead now... you can put away the Hari cari swords at least temporarily.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:02 PM (FTXAT)

1445 1443 Posted by: potadas at December 12, 2017 11:01 PM (OpeHI)

Conyers was a dementia patient, and Franken is an albatross around their neck....

win or lose in Alabama they are stronger for jettisoning the flotsam.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 11:03 PM (SzZnW)

1446 (Stares at AL SoC website)

Wut?

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 11:03 PM (gYAkw)

1447 Let me make sure I understand your position Sven. You are saying that a child who has been in the USA since he was a toddler, who speaks perfect English, who works hard and is going to school, should be deported to what is to him a foreign country.

Is that right?

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:03 PM (BLayO)

1448 1430 Guys Moore is now ahead according to the Alabama Sec. of State.

---

Do tell.

Posted by: willy at December 12, 2017 11:01 PM (puf6g)

By a little over 6,000 votes.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:04 PM (FTXAT)

1449 Which county hasn't reported?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 12, 2017 11:05 PM (rnXGe)

1450 To Grande...Moore never dated 14 years old you great big tool.
Posted by: redbanzai

______

Yea, he did.

Moore admitted to dating high school girls in his 30's, collegue said he did as well, even a retired police detective said he did. All sorts of women said he did.

But let's all pretend this one 14 year old girl was lying about it and it was really only sophomores and older

Fell better about him?

Alabama didn't

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 11:05 PM (uc45P)

1451 AL Secy of State:
Jones 49.01% 553,931
Moore 49.55% 560,083
Write-In 1.44% 16,271
66 of 67 counties

What county is missing?











1,130,285

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 11:05 PM (gYAkw)

1452 Let me make sure I understand your position Sven.
You are saying that a child who has been in the USA since he was a
toddler, who speaks perfect English, who works hard and is going to
school, should be deported to what is to him a foreign country.

Is that right?


Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:03 PM (BLayO)

Yes... he has a home and it is not here.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:05 PM (FTXAT)

1453 The one county is Madison, which the Times says added 19K votes to Jones.

So no joy.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 11:06 PM (WbIyz)

1454 Posted by: Grande

Why are you still here, you useless cunt?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 11:06 PM (WbIyz)

1455 1447 Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:03 PM (BLayO)

I think the law should have been followed, and I know of no other country on Earth that will let me just show up and say HERE I AM!

Your waiter is the kid waving the Mexopolitan Flag on US soil cheering for Mexico in Commie Kick Ball.

"Newer better Americans" my ass.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 11:07 PM (SzZnW)

1456 Yea, he did.



Moore admitted to dating high school girls in his 30's, collegue
said he did as well, even a retired police detective said he did. All
sorts of women said he did.



But let's all pretend this one 14 year old girl was lying about it and it was really only sophomores and older



Fell better about him?



Alabama didn't

Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 11:05 PM (uc45P)

You are a liar as well as a tool. The only 14 year old he was accused of having anything to do with is the one that accused him (not very believably) of assault.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:07 PM (FTXAT)

1457 1434 With 66 of 67 counties reporting, Moore is 6,000 ahead. I repeat MOORE IS 6,000 AHEAD.
Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:00 PM (FTXAT)

***

Don't tease me like that


Anyway ** my understanding is certain urban counties are still reporting ~ they will outweigh any suburban and rural counties. It's over man. Let it go.

Posted by: Publius Redux at December 12, 2017 11:07 PM (0YSzp)

1458 "Yes... he has a home and it is not here."

No, his home is here in the USA. Your house is your home, and his house is here.

It is wrong to deport someone who is an adult and has been living in the USA since they were a toddler. How can you defend that?

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:07 PM (BLayO)

1459 The one county is Madison, which the Times says added 19K votes to Jones.



So no joy.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 11:06 PM (WbIyz)

We shall see.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:08 PM (FTXAT)

1460 1452 Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:05 PM (FTXAT)

I never wanted to migrate to Valenzuela, but soft headed conservatives and Communist Donks are doing their best to bring Valenzuela to me.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 11:08 PM (SzZnW)

1461 I'm not a fan of this "If someone accuses you of being a pedophile, then you're automatically guilty" standard we're coming up on here.

Are you ready for some random person in your office who doesn't like you telling HR that you're a pedophile?

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 11:08 PM (yXU4O)

1462 Madison county went 55% for Trump in 2016

Posted by: Chuck C at December 12, 2017 11:08 PM (0V2ki)

1463 "Your waiter is the kid waving the Mexopolitan Flag on US soil cheering for Mexico in Commie Kick Ball."

You're just making things up. Do you sleep with Kate Hudson too?

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:09 PM (BLayO)

1464 1458 Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:07 PM (BLayO)

The same way I manage to sleep at night for wanting people who break our laws convicted....

I avoid soft drinks after 1900, and I sleep soundly.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 11:09 PM (SzZnW)

1465 Madison county went 55% for Trump in 2016

Posted by: Chuck C at December 12, 2017 11:08 PM (0V2ki)

How are the bridges holding up there?

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 12, 2017 11:10 PM (QLvwG)

1466 Madison county is Huntsville, 72% white, 22% black.

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 11:10 PM (gYAkw)

1467 1464 1458 Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:07 PM (BLayO)

The same way I manage to sleep at night for wanting people who break our laws convicted....

I avoid soft drinks after 1900, and I sleep soundly.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 11:09 PM (SzZnW)

Also, they should be billed for every penny of government services that they have received.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 11:10 PM (yXU4O)

1468 1430 By a little over 6,000 votes.
--
Thx. Hope springs eternal.

Posted by: willy at December 12, 2017 11:11 PM (puf6g)

1469 1463 Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:09 PM (BLayO)

Sure I am Tiger, your "newer better American" he shines shoes and crosses the road to help old ladies with their groceries.

It's like this, either the Mexiploitan Flag Wavers are an optical illusion seen by a lot of Americans *or* just maybe your angel waiter is.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 11:11 PM (SzZnW)

1470 The one county is Madison, which the Times says added 19K votes to Jones.





So no joy.



Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 11:06 PM (WbIyz)

We shall see.


Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:08 PM (FTXAT)

And I just saw... Jones is now 13,000 ahead:-P

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:11 PM (FTXAT)

1471 Madison county went 55% for Trump in 2016

It would certainly be nice if the Times stringers were wrong. A lot of Yankees and their descendants in Madison County because of Red Stone and the spqace program.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 11:11 PM (WbIyz)

1472 Cruisin' high schoolers isn't exactly the sign of an upstanding model citizen...

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 12, 2017 09:51 PM (itfg0)

Again, dating =/= fucking. Guy was trying to meet a potential wife to start in young at raising a large family. Might be very 19th Century thinking, but neither illegal or immoral.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2017 11:12 PM (oPNmq)

1473 Alabama Votes is an unofficial site. I don't think it's as fast as the official results coming in.

Hate to burst bubbles.

Posted by: trev006 at December 12, 2017 11:12 PM (jRA31)

1474 AL Sec of State 67 of 67 counties:
Jones 49.68% 619,595
Moore 48.63% 606,396
Write-In 1.69% 21,078

Outside of recount range.

It's over.

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 11:12 PM (gYAkw)

1475 Children brought here by there parents did not break any laws.

Sven, you can not enter into a contract with a three year old. It is not enforceable.

This is a real issue, and your position is untenable. Your position loses more votes than it gains. It is rhetorically unsound even beyond being morally wrong.

Your position on the dreamers ultimately creates more illegal immigration.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:12 PM (BLayO)

1476 "Yes... he has a home and it is not here."

No, his home is here in the USA. Your house is your home, and his house is here.

It is wrong to deport someone who is an adult and has been living in the USA since they were a toddler. How can you defend that?


Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:07 PM (BLayO)

No his home is where he has citizenship. You don't get to break into someone else's property and get to keep it by virtue of avoiding the law for a long time.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:14 PM (FTXAT)

1477 Grande, I think you're on the up-and-up, not a troll. But it looks sort of odd that you only show up tonight to comment, and not before. The Moore story has been around for weeks (and Moore himself has been the GOP nominee for close to 3 months), but you only come out now, so people are wondering, "where did this guy come from all of a sudden".

If you felt this strongly about Moore, you could have shared your opinion, and your justifications for that opinion, sooner.

Posted by: Hands Solo at December 12, 2017 11:14 PM (EzdLW)

1478 1475 Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:12 PM (BLayO)

I never entered into a contract with 15 million guys named Juan and or Juana.

Their scofflaw parents broke the international contract called "el border."

You keep on f*cking that chicken of ignoring that 1986 happened amigo, I never will.

"The Border" was "secured" then.

How'd that work out for us?

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 11:15 PM (SzZnW)

1479 Haha Sven, you are just making things up. Can't argue with that. Have a good night gramps.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:15 PM (BLayO)

1480 I see Hat is here to spread his stupidity with an accusation that doesn't hold up to any standard.

Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at December 12, 2017 09:53 PM (wtvvX)
Political Hat is a smart guy and a solid gentleman. I may disagree with him over Moore's behavior, but I won't call him names.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2017 11:15 PM (oPNmq)

1481 1452 Let me make sure I understand your position Sven.
You are saying that a child who has been in the USA since he was a
toddler, who speaks perfect English, who works hard and is going to
school, should be deported to what is to him a foreign country.

Is that right?


Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:03 PM (BLayO)

Yes... he has a home and it is not here.
Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:05 PM (FTXAT)

A~F*cking~men

When the f*ck did we become the world's babysitter? Would you like it if all the people in your neighborhood dropped their bratty kids off and said "now their yours?" pay for them, raise them, send them to school, feed them? No? I thought not . So you want me,. through m,y taxes to do the same things? Well then f*ck you.

Now I am not a completely heartless bastard ( only a slightly hearts basters) so I have no problem with this country taking care of DACA kids until relatives can be located, or a suitable foster home in their countries of origin . . then . . off they go. I don't want them dropped in the ocean. I want them sent to their home ~ which is not here. Just like you would do with the kids dropped off at your home.

Please. Give it a rest. You'e simply wrong on this one. WE are not the world's babysitter. Period.

Posted by: Publius Redux at December 12, 2017 11:16 PM (0YSzp)

1482 Yowza. BIG win for the Dems and the GOPe. McConnell runs some ads against Mo Brooks to take him out in favor of Strange, Strange loses to Moore. WaPo takes Moore out with a late hit from 40 years ago (no replay available) and the Dems GOTV/StopTrump machine does the rest.

McConnell. Must. Go. By any means necessary.

Posted by: Lawrence Larson at December 12, 2017 11:16 PM (BtBnD)

1483 That's a statistical tie, while not great at the very least it'll stop the "It's ovverrr foorr Trrummp" talk from the left (oh they'll try but it won't have any weight).

That should also force Frankenstein's resignation too - I think if it had been a solid win for Jones then Franken would have renged but now they have to for the optics as they'll still try to make hay out of the "sexual assault" attack now, especially as it's proven to WORK - if not for impeachment then come 2020 when Trump is up for re-election.

Posted by: Skywise at December 12, 2017 11:17 PM (858q0)

1484 Children brought here by there parents did not break any laws.

Sven, you can not enter into a contract with a three year old. It is not enforceable.

This
is a real issue, and your position is untenable. Your position loses
more votes than it gains. It is rhetorically unsound even beyond being
morally wrong.

Your position on the dreamers ultimately creates more illegal immigration.


Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:12 PM (BLayO)

Children don't stay three and become responsible for their own illegal action of remaining in the US without authorization when they become adults... hell when the reach the age that they would be held responsible for any other crime the commit (about 14 in many states).

And as we saw with the surge at the border cause by Obama's illegal DACA program, it is allowing Dreamers to stay that causes increased illegal immigration.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:17 PM (FTXAT)

1485 1479 Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:15 PM (BLayO)

HAHA yes, and your Cory Booker imaginary waiter wins the argument Tiger.

Like I said, we've seen this movie before....

your rebuttal?

None.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 11:17 PM (SzZnW)

1486 Trump won Talladega County by a 2:1 margin. Tonight Roy Moore lost Talladega County. Really all you need to know. This isn't on Alabama. This is on Roy Moore.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at December 12, 2017 11:17 PM (3ufaJ)

1487 1452 Let me make sure I understand your position Sven.
You are saying that a child who has been in the USA since he was a
toddler, who speaks perfect English, who works hard and is going to
school, should be deported to what is to him a foreign country.

Yes, especially the 21-31 year old toddlers that qualify for DACA. FTS.

Posted by: Lawrence Larson at December 12, 2017 11:19 PM (BtBnD)

1488 According to the AL SoS website the turnout was 37.5% of registered voters. That is huge for a special election (typically 15-25%).

Posted by: HuuskerDu at December 12, 2017 11:19 PM (gYAkw)

1489 Trump won Talladega County by a 2:1 margin. Tonight
Roy Moore lost Talladega County. Really all you need to know. This isn't
on Alabama. This is on Roy Moore.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at December 12, 2017 11:17 PM (3ufaJ)

Its kinda on Alabama too for believing charges with no proof (and that will not end well for anyone).

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:20 PM (FTXAT)

1490 I see Hat is here to spread his stupidity with an accusation that doesn't hold up to any standard.
Those who destroyed St Cruz must die.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 12, 2017 11:20 PM (QCX64)

1491 Moore lost and the sun will still rise tomorrow. I will not be terrified nor discouraged.

Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at December 12, 2017 11:21 PM (J70i0)

1492 1487 Posted by: Lawrence Larson at December 12, 2017 11:19 PM (BtBnD)

Like the 27 year old "teen" rapists in Oslo.....

it takes a lot of gall for a Republican to try to create the aborted voters the democrats sold for scrap parts for them with amnesty.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 11:21 PM (SzZnW)

1493 Moore lost and the sun will still rise tomorrow. I will not be terrified nor discouraged.

Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at December 12, 2017 11:21 PM (J70i0)

This.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:22 PM (FTXAT)

1494 I said border security first. You've ignored that consistently. Rhetorically, you can't win the argument if you say that people that are assimilated Americans should be forced to leave the country.

You guys are arguing deport first. You can't win that because the archetype will never be the criminal, but the shiny tween with perfect English who works, pays taxes, and goes to school part time to get a degree in computer science.

I give you the technicalities. I'm just saying that you won't win this argument with the voters. Take the high ground on the dreamers, but border security first.

Deport first is a loser.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:23 PM (BLayO)

1495 You are saying that a child who has been in the USA since he was a toddler, who speaks perfect English, who works hard and is going to school, should be deported to what is to him a foreign country.


What do we do with his parents? Can we send them back?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 11:24 PM (WbIyz)

1496 Alabama chose a guy who wants abortion until the moment of birth yuck

Posted by: lousagirl at December 12, 2017 11:24 PM (PmCoA)

1497 1487 it takes a lot of gall for a Republican to try to create the aborted voters the democrats sold for scrap parts for them with amnesty.

Possibly the most poorly-constructed sentence out of 1,487...ESL?

Posted by: Lawrence Larson at December 12, 2017 11:25 PM (BtBnD)

1498 1494 Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:23 PM (BLayO)

Nah we'll go with your plan.

Let's give 15 to 20 million guys named Juan or Juana the vote, THEN we'l REALLY deport Jose and Josefina.....

honest injun....

//1986

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 11:26 PM (SzZnW)

1499 1497 Posted by: Lawrence Larson at December 12, 2017 11:25 PM (BtBnD)

It makes me a better American eh gringo?

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 11:27 PM (SzZnW)

1500 1495 Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2017 11:24 PM (WbIyz)

No we grant them citizenship at most 7 years after Juan or Juanita get theirs.

"Chain migration" it is a thing amigo.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 11:28 PM (SzZnW)

1501 Grumpy, I apologize for ignoring you. It's a valid point. I really don't know. Sven is right that we don't want Venezuela coming here. I totally agree. I play warcraft with a young Mexican and I asked him why he thought Americans were so much against illegal immigration.

I told the answer to that was the same reason Texas does not want migrants from California: socialism.

Nothing racist about.

If our real problem is socialism, does keeping the parents but not allowing them to vote a solution.

I think we can get the border secured. The arguments for that are very rhetorically sound.

But turning what most people see as American citizens into refugees is not a win.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:28 PM (BLayO)

1502 More like Bannon in an idiot that brought this mess to us in order to show what a "kingmaker" he is.





Posted by: Grande at December 12, 2017 10:14 PM (uc45P)

So you are the banned commenter BSG.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2017 11:29 PM (oPNmq)

1503 Moore was done the minute he finished that Hannity interview when all of this started;

"I always had the permission of parents."

What fucking 30 year old asks for permission? It was over for me at that moment. I'm pissed I half-hearted supported Moore when we should have been forcing him out. Fucking creep.

Posted by: Cashin at December 12, 2017 11:31 PM (fClMW)

1504 1496 Alabama chose a guy who wants abortion until the moment of birth yuck
Posted by: lousagirl at December 12, 2017 11:24 PM (PmCoA)

Just wait until they start talking post-birth Abortion.

It's coming.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 11:31 PM (yXU4O)

1505 1493 Moore lost and the sun will still rise tomorrow. I will not be terrified nor discouraged.



Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at December 12, 2017 11:21 PM (J70i0)

This.
...
The sun will appear to rise as long as the Earth rotates relative to the shining Sun. The abundance of stupid humans will not change until humanity is ended. There is no special reason to be terrified or discouraged. It is what it is.

Posted by: Not a Stupid RINO at December 12, 2017 11:31 PM (JjwF2)

1506 1501 Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:28 PM (BLayO)

They are not "American citizens" they are citizens of Greater Aztlan.

That said this may throw you for a loop Dave Arf Arf, in the event you guys get AMIGO GRANDE I will fully support and fund La Raza and MeCha.

At that point my interests will be best served by breaking the US up into baby bells, and your "newer better Americans" will make the precedent that that is Muy Bueno.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 11:33 PM (SzZnW)

1507 I said border security first. You've ignored that
consistently. Rhetorically, you can't win the argument if you say that
people that are assimilated Americans should be forced to leave the
country.

You guys are arguing deport first. You can't win that
because the archetype will never be the criminal, but the shiny tween
with perfect English who works, pays taxes, and goes to school part time
to get a degree in computer science.

I give you the
technicalities. I'm just saying that you won't win this argument with
the voters. Take the high ground on the dreamers, but border security
first.

Deport first is a loser.


Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:23 PM (BLayO)

I can win the argument. A) They are foreign national not Americans... assimilated or otherwise... and B) they do not assimilate.

And if your tween is working and paying taxes, he had to commit identity theft to do so.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:34 PM (FTXAT)

1508 1504 Hikaru yes sadly it really is

Posted by: lousagirl at December 12, 2017 11:34 PM (PmCoA)

1509 it takes a lot of gall for a Republican to try to
create the aborted voters the democrats sold for scrap parts for them
with amnesty.



Possibly the most poorly-constructed sentence out of 1,487...ESL?

Posted by: Lawrence Larson at December 12, 2017 11:25 PM (BtBnD)

Not as felicitously worded as it could be but the point is there. Abortion has left a hole in the US population that Democrats and many Republicans would be happy to fill via amnesty.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:36 PM (FTXAT)

1510 Night all God Bless

Posted by: lousagirl at December 12, 2017 11:37 PM (PmCoA)

1511 1507 Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:34 PM (FTXAT)

Juan and Juanita have options I don't.

I cannot "legally" become James Weaver esq with the aid of 75 bucks and a contact at the morgue....

Turns out if/when I engage in identity theft it is a hard misdemeanor and in some states a felony.

I also can't "go home" when inclined, I am home.....have a birth certificate and a DD214 that say so.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 11:38 PM (SzZnW)

1512 They are not "American citizens" they are citizens of Greater Aztlan.

You are not going to convince the low information voter of that. Essentially your position is that you have already given up, go the Ace Way, and divorce.

I haven't accepted that yet, and I want to engage with the middle and win border security.

One fun way I like to argue it is this: conservative immigration policy favors diversity and allows equal access for all countries. Because the conservative policy follows the law, it is safer and fair to peoples of all countries. It also keeps our country safer.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:38 PM (BLayO)

1513 1509 Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:36 PM (FTXAT)

I'm tired and out of practice, it's like this.

When the GOP flipped the House in 1994 the donks ran the demographics and admitted in places like Newsweek "golly we may have aborted too many young democrats."

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 11:39 PM (SzZnW)

1514 Yes, redbanzi, I agree that sucks. The hole is at the border. I just think we have a better chance of getting that hole closed if can agree that once it is closed, our policy with regards to the dreamers will be compassionate.

I would sure hate to be a twenty year old raised here thinking about being deported to Mexico. Hell, I'm scared to go to Cancun.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:40 PM (BLayO)

1515 1512 Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:38 PM (BLayO)

RIGHT-O!

//The UK looking for their debauched daughters

You go on ahead and gift the donks 12.5 million new votes, and I will use the new voters to break this nation up.

"Moderate Middle" will be somewhere in the Neighborhood of at best Vincente Fox and at worst Hugo Chavez......

I must have missed where it is sacred holy writ that the United States has to absorb 13% of its population every 8 years.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 11:42 PM (SzZnW)

1516 Am I willowed? Too bad. I was enjoying this discussion.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:42 PM (BLayO)

1517 1514 Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:40 PM (BLayO)

You do not need to go to Cancun ese, the Amigos will bring the decapitation squads here.

I am still uncertain where in "war plan compassion" we ever get around to stopping MS-13 from coming in.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 11:44 PM (SzZnW)

1518 How are you gonna get that border closed? You think we can do it without even hinting at a solution for the dreamers? I'm asking. How to get it done?

As a 90 year old man, you have a lot of experience. How do we get that deal if the other side puts pictures of young, hard working, college going, English speaking hispanics, who love American and don't want to be made homeless?

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:45 PM (BLayO)

1519 You are not going to convince the low information
voter of that. Essentially your position is that you have already given
up, go the Ace Way, and divorce.

I haven't accepted that yet, and I want to engage with the middle and win border security.

One
fun way I like to argue it is this: conservative immigration policy
favors diversity and allows equal access for all countries. Because the
conservative policy follows the law, it is safer and fair to peoples of
all countries. It also keeps our country safer.


Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:38 PM (BLayO)

You are wrong. History proves you are wrong both on the politics and what would happen with legalization of illegals. Moreover, voters have made it very clear to their representatives since 2005 at least that we will murder them politically if they pass amnesty. you can quote all the polls you want, revealed preferences of all voters, even the low information ones, does not support amnesty.
And no one has the right to access to our country unless we say they do and it benefits us (which it doesn't). Diversity is the last freaking thing this country needs.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:45 PM (FTXAT)

1520 You tell me Svenster. How do we win the close the border argument?

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:46 PM (BLayO)

1521
Yes, redbanzi, I agree that sucks. The hole is at the border. I just
think we have a better chance of getting that hole closed if can agree
that once it is closed, our policy with regards to the dreamers will be
compassionate.

I would sure hate to be a twenty year old raised here thinking about being deported to Mexico. Hell, I'm scared to go to Cancun.


Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:40 PM (BLayO)
That is not compassionate to the Americans who pay their freight.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:47 PM (FTXAT)

1522 1518 Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:45 PM (BLayO)

I was 14 in 1986, so I am 90.

If the dreamers are this vital strategic asset to the Estados Unitados and will save America imagine what good they could do at home.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 11:48 PM (SzZnW)

1523 1520 Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:46 PM (BLayO)

ideally with claymores.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 11:48 PM (SzZnW)

1524 I would sure hate to be a twenty year old raised here thinking about being deported to Mexico. Hell, I'm scared to go to Cancun.


Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:40 PM (BLayO)

Not my problem that Your theoretical dreamer's home is a shithole. It behooves him to go there and fix his home rather than squatting in mine.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:50 PM (FTXAT)

1525 If I understand you banzai, the argument is already won. The people want the border closed. The politicians just need to do it. I don't need to discuss this at all with my liberal friends.

I personally don't feel good about deporting dreamers, but I want that border closed.

Though, I guess if you must insist on deporting the dreamers, I must hold out my support for closing the border.

But, if you can convince me that the dreamers will be taken care of in a compassionate way after that border is closed, I would throw in my support and say, let's get that border closed now, and then we can figure out the dreamers.

What say you, oh banzai?


Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:52 PM (BLayO)

1526 You tell me Svenster. How do we win the close the border argument?


Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:46 PM (BLayO)

So far we are getting closer by electing people who will build the damn wall and weening out the ones who won't. You saw how Jeb!'s dreamy "its an act of love" crap got him.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:52 PM (FTXAT)

1527 Do the illegals that work pay social security taxes? How do they get around that?

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:54 PM (BLayO)

1528 1526 Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:52 PM (FTXAT)

Non-consensual "acts of love" are called "rape or sexual assault."

//Yeb Bush

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 11:54 PM (SzZnW)

1529 1527 Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:54 PM (BLayO)

We "get around that" ideally by prosecuting them for fraud.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 11:55 PM (SzZnW)

1530 Though, I guess if you must insist on deporting the dreamers, I must hold out my support for closing the border.

So you don't really believe in closing the border, it's just a ploy to get the trespassers and their families legalized.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Native Texan and Alabama Alumn, Twice as Smug as You at December 12, 2017 11:55 PM (WbIyz)

1531 Though, I guess if you must insist on deporting the dreamers, I must hold out my support for closing the border.

But,
if you can convince me that the dreamers will be taken care of in a
compassionate way after that border is closed, I would throw in my
support and say, let's get that border closed now, and then we can
figure out the dreamers.

What say you, oh banzai?




Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:52 PM (BLayO)

I don't give two flips what you support... most people do not agree with you. If they did, we would have had amnesty long ago.
As for compassion... try having some for the poor Americans who are made poorer because illegals take the jobs that would be available to them if illegals were sent back to their own countries.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 12, 2017 11:55 PM (FTXAT)

1532 Banzai, that's a good point about Jeb. I did support Trump because of the border issue. But, I also knew he would not deport the dreamers.

However, no matter what, and despite what any of my arguments imply, I want border security before anything else.

But I can't embrace deport first.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:56 PM (BLayO)

1533 1525 Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:52 PM (BLayO)

If there was a way to give "el dreamers" a green card in perpetuity without the next Donk trying to EO amnesty I'd buy in.....they do not get to vote in this nation by entering it illegally.

There's not, the left has proven it takes just one out of control appellate judge in Maui to magic up whatever they want.

No compromise.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 11:57 PM (SzZnW)

1534 Since we all agree that the border should be closed, lets do that and see how it goes before we change anything else.

Common ground!

Posted by: Grump928(C) Native Texan and Alabama Alumn, Twice as Smug as You at December 12, 2017 11:57 PM (WbIyz)

1535 1518 As a 90 year old man, you have a lot of experience. How do we get that deal if the other side puts pictures of young, hard working, college going, English speaking hispanics, who love American and don't want to be made homeless?
Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:45 PM (BLayO)

I insist they be made homeless before a native born citizen be made such.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 11:57 PM (yXU4O)

1536 What do you think would happen politically banzi, if Trump started deporting dreamers. Do you think you'd get that border security?

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:58 PM (BLayO)

1537 1536 Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:58 PM (BLayO)

I think I'd send Trump a check for the 2400 bucks or so a year Juan and Juanita cost me in taxes.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2017 11:59 PM (SzZnW)

1538 "I insist they be made homeless before a native born citizen be made such."

This, by the way, is a winning issue with black voters. I don't understand why we don't hear more about how illegal immigration kills the job prospects of the African American community.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 13, 2017 12:01 AM (BLayO)

1539 Do the illegals that work pay social security taxes? How do they get around that?


Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:54 PM (BLayO)

They either work illegally for cash or, worse, steal some American's identity to work.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 13, 2017 12:01 AM (FTXAT)

1540 1535 Posted by: Hikaru at December 12, 2017 11:57 PM (yXU4O)

I don't think we'll be homeless for long if you catch my drift.

el trabajo hace libre =s arbeit macht frei and it will be on the Grammy H "fun camp" gate.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 13, 2017 12:01 AM (SzZnW)

1541 What do you think would happen politically banzi, if
Trump started deporting dreamers. Do you think you'd get that border
security?


Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 12, 2017 11:58 PM (BLayO)

Yes.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 13, 2017 12:02 AM (FTXAT)

1542 They claim the pay taxes with a tax id number. Knowing the IRS and their grinchy little tricks, I would be surprised if illegals don't pay taxes.

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-illegal-immigrants-pay-taxes-2012-3

I think if Trump deported some beautiful English speaking kid whose been here since he was three, it would be rhetorically unsound. But I will think more on it.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 13, 2017 12:05 AM (BLayO)

1543 I do think we are at an impasse here. I will reread what you guys have written and think on it.

I don't think it matters too much, though, now that we have discussed. They will not deport the dreamers. It just won't happen. So, I don't need to worry about that.

I AM worried we won't get that "wall", and I still think we'd have a better chance of getting it if we had a narrative that included a compassionate solutions for the dreamers.

So, impasse. Thanks a lot for not willowing me. Good night.

Posted by: davedavdavarf at December 13, 2017 12:09 AM (BLayO)

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