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Republican Civil War: While Charles Schumer and the #SalonHot25 Mourn the Retirement of Jeff Flake, Real Conservatives Point Out His Habit of Carrying Liberal Water

This guy, Jason Johnson, is a former Ted Cruz strategist, and now is at an outfit called J2 communications.

He posted a series of tweets discussing the #SalonHot25's/Weekly Standard's/Chuck Schumer's favorite liberalitarian Senator.


1) Tempting to comment on Flake’s floor speech. Instead, offering context on his view of “governing” by highlighting a few of his votes.


2) Jeff Flake was 1 of 10 Republican senators who voted to confirm Loretta Lynch for Attorney General

3) Flake voted to fund President Obama’s unconstitutional executive amnesty.

4) Flake voted against Sen. Mike Lee’s 1st Amendment Defense Act

5) Flake voted for Obama’s $1.1 trillion Cromnibus 2015 spending bill

6) Flake voteed to reauthorize the Export-Import Bank

7) Flake voted for S.2114 which increased Russia’s power at the International Monetary Fund

Flake voted for a CLEAN debt limit suspension (2014)

9) Flake was 1 of 11 Republican senators who voted to confirm Janet Yellen

10) Flake voted for the Ryan-Murray budget which lifted spending caps & raised fees (taxes) in exchange for promises of future spending cuts

11) Flake voted for the Gang of 8 amnesty bill

12) Flake voted for the post-Newtown gun grab

13) Flake voted AGAINST The Defund Obamacare Act of 2013 (S.1292)

14) Flake voted to increase debt by $900 billion in exchange for the promise of discretionary cuts in the future (2011)

15) Flake preferred John Kasich over Cruz or Trump in the 2016 GOP Primary.

The liberal wing of the "conservative" movement has the sadz about this, claiming that we lost a "libertarian" voice and a staunch advocate of limited government.

How is the guy voting repeatedly for huge omnibus spending bills and clean (no strings attached) debt increases a fighter for limited government?

The guy who fought for the Import-Export bank and for the Newton gun grab is a "libertarian"?

At what point do the #SalonHot25/Weekly Standard/etc. drop the pose of pretending they're SUPER-DUPER Conservatives, which is why they're always attacking us, and just admit the obvious truth -- they're left-leaning Rockefeller Republicans who prefer their conservatism, if at all, to be in the form of rhetoric in campaigns, and not in the form of any actual real-world policy expression?

@Drew_McCoy -- the coblogger formerly known as "DrewM." -- posted this:

Something I don't think enough professional Republicans understand/appreciate about the frustration with guys like Flake...

He and other Republicans never talk about liberals, hardcore lefty types, the way they do about parts of the GOP coalition they don't like.

You may say that the parts of the GOP they/you don't like are worse than anything on the left, ok. But that's not going to move your voters.

Flake is on MSNBC right now saying it's wrong for the GOP to talk about cultural issues. That's not something a Democrat would ever say.
_
There are a lot of GOP/GOP leaners who see an onslaught from the left, which Democrat electeds gleefully participate in and then they see...

the GOP not just fail to push back but to join in saying pushing back is just not what the right people do.

People want the party they support to support them. Right or wrong a LOT of Republicans don't see the GOP politicians supporting them.

The current GOP leadership class has made it clear they aren't interested in those fights. Fair enough.

But don't be upset when those people going seeking someone who will.

It's supply and demand.

I'm not arguing either side is right or wrong (I'm sympathetic to both) but unless and until people accept the parties are coalitions and

everyone sees they are getting a reasonable return on investment...here we are.

My guess is, it's too late though.

Of course, I was SCREAMING about this 10 years ago and no one listened to me but that's on y'all not me.

But no one wanted to give a little so now we have a death match.

No my monkeys, not my circus.

I've been saying that for a long time too (though I was reading Drew and talking to him on podcasts, so I may have just been influenced by him). But I began to see what we now call "the Establishment" preached the importance of coalition politics during voting season, and then entirely forgot about coalition politics during governing season, giving the Corporate Class/Rockefeller Republicans all that they wanted (corporate favors) and nothing that they didn't (any icky conservative "social" policy), treating the actual base like whores they just fucked when they needed a quick release.

Every two years they'd give us the 2am "U up?" sext and then forget all about us the morning after the election.

Both sides, or rather all factions (as there are more than two sides) need to get something out of the deal. One faction can't get everything, or else the other factions get resentful and, ultimately -- mutinous.

Drew adds:

And don't tell me the professional GOP wing are the adults in the room.

They ran on the idea that ObamaCare was destroying the country. They then walked away from it in months after winning.

How the hell can you do that and expect people to say, "yeah, you guys are worth following and tying our fate to".

Not going to lie, of course I take pleasure in being proven right. But this is scary shit.

Welcome to the mutiny, Ye Traitorous, Cowardly Captains.

Ye will be made to walk the plank. It might not right the ship, but at least we'll have the pleasure of being rid of you.

Oh, and enjoy this clip of Laura Ingraham noting, correctly, that Jeff Flake's speech could have just as easily been given by Charles Schumer or Nancy Pelosi.

Obviously true, given that Charles Schumer praised his very good ally Jeff Flake, saying "he will be missed."

An extra vote for Democrats on all the tough votes-- yeah, I'll say you'll miss him all right.

What would Charles Schumer do without all of his Corkers, Collinses, and Cornyns, his McCains, McConnells, and Murkowskis?

There is no more useful soldier than one you've positioned inside the enemy camp, let alone one you've placed in the enemy's command structure.

Update: Good Ben Domenech piece about the Legacy Republicans who can't change their corporate/establishment stripes.

He includes this fine tribute from that most super-duper libertarian/conservative institution, CNN:


Yes, when CNN's political director is praising a nominal "Republican's" speech as "historic," you can read that to mean "supportive of the progressive establishment's narrative and political agenda."

Out with the old. In with the... whoever. I don't care. But out with the old.

More: You won't believe this, but all the leftwing Journ0Listers are somehow all saying the same thing, yet again:


Posted by: Ace at 08:30 PM




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1 Fuck Flake

Fuck McCain

Fuck Corker

Fuck Mitch The Bitch

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 24, 2017 08:32 PM (1JAxC)

2 1st and I actually read all the content? (pats myself on the back)

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 24, 2017 08:32 PM (1JAxC)

3 top 420

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 24, 2017 08:33 PM (wmaTe)

4 Jeff Flake is all that 'official Washington' loves....about itself.

PDT was the antidote to the Inside Game.

You have to wonder how Trump made it to the finish line and continues to make it clear that the USA has been for sale to everyone but its own citizens. ...

Posted by: Redgrains at October 24, 2017 08:33 PM (WPxnj)

5 So, Ace, what you're saying is, we don't need no stinkin' baseball?

Posted by: Peaches at October 24, 2017 08:33 PM (14URa)

6 One other vote that always pissed me off is when Flake was a Congressman, I believe he was the only member in the entire Congress that voted against legislation that created the "Do not Call" list that allowed consumers to put their name on a list to not be solicited because he thought it was anti-business to phone bank companies.

This guy was just basically a lobbyist pretending to be a Senator.

Posted by: cosmic at October 24, 2017 08:33 PM (uc45P)

7 Yeah, Flake will be missed --- by Democrats.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 24, 2017 08:34 PM (W+vEI)

8 And now.. back to Pedesta, Clinton and the false Fusion report.

Posted by: LASue at October 24, 2017 08:34 PM (hZ+us)

9 Everyone congratulate ace. He posted correctly!

Posted by: buzzion - guess my sign at October 24, 2017 08:34 PM (z/Ubi)

10 3
top 420

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 24, 2017 08:33 PM (wmaTe)
Ya know, Harry, I've thought this many times but never actually articulated it. Paratestes is one of the all-time greatest nics I've ever seen.

Posted by: Peaches at October 24, 2017 08:34 PM (14URa)

11 Liberal Hot Dog Flavored Water.

Posted by: pol hates everybody at October 24, 2017 08:34 PM (s7y11)

12 Flake is a POS. 18% approval in Arizona. Seems about 17 % too high.

Posted by: LASue at October 24, 2017 08:35 PM (hZ+us)

13 >>He and other Republicans never talk about liberals, hardcore lefty
types, the way they do about parts of the GOP coalition they don't like.


THIS
The only time they break their pose as being better than stooping to petty insults....is when they pile on a Republican.
Gee, great values ya got there, guys!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 24, 2017 08:35 PM (W+vEI)

14 I miss the "silver dimes" libertarians.

Posted by: wooga at October 24, 2017 08:35 PM (YzPmt)

15 Here is how Republicans "negotiate"...

Imagine there is a scale that goes from -100 to +100. -100 is everything conservatives want, +100 is everything liberals want. Republicans start out negotiating at 0. In other words they already cede 100 points to the left. And then the final settlement is at +50.

Dems on the other hand always start negotiating at +100. And they are happy as fuck to walk away with +50.

Reps get 25% of what conservatives want, Dems get 75% of what liberals want. Every single fucking time.

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 24, 2017 08:36 PM (1JAxC)

16 Drew's comment still skirts the issue. These Vichy GOP turds are collaborators with the left. Plain and simple. There's really nothing "Republican" about them.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 24, 2017 08:36 PM (8gDQu)

17 Cornyn is an embarrassment to all good Texans (and adopted ones such as myself).


Fuck Flake, Merkowski, Collins, McCain, Cornyn, Graham, Corker, et al. They don't believe in American exceptionalism. All they believe in is enriching themselves.



Sick of this shit. Sick of life.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at October 24, 2017 08:36 PM (/o9Qk)

18 Ya know, Harry, I've thought this many times but never actually articulated it. Paratestes is one of the all-time greatest nics I've ever seen.
Posted by: Peaches at October 24, 2017 08:34 PM (14URa)

Well thank you!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 24, 2017 08:36 PM (wmaTe)

19 Whenever I hear someone described as Libertarian, I just automatically now assume it means someone that wants to surrender to the Left on every issue that matters.

Posted by: cosmic at October 24, 2017 08:36 PM (uc45P)

20 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 24, 2017 08:37 PM (KCxzN)

21 I think this is a good thing. Just like the D's ditched the "blue dogs," we should ditch our RINOs.

Bye, Mr. Flake, enjoy your multi-million dollar a year no show job wherever you land.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 24, 2017 08:37 PM (wmaTe)

22 Flake can go fuck a duck.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 24, 2017 08:37 PM (nUkMr)

23 It will forever baffle my mind how the most red states send the most liberal Sens to DC. SC sends Miss Lindsey, TN sends the Lamar/Corker clown show. Texas sends Cornyn.

How the fuck does that happen?

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 24, 2017 08:38 PM (1JAxC)

24 To the devil with Flake! We have a Hillary Hunt afoot! Release the Hounds!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Find Son of a Son, Son of a Son, Son of a Son of Sonobi at the Outrage Outlet! at October 24, 2017 08:38 PM (66/E/)

25 6
This guy was just basically a lobbyist pretending to be a Senator.
Posted by: cosmic at October 24, 2017 08:33 PM (uc45P)


That's what they all are, more or less.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 24, 2017 08:38 PM (mbhDw)

26 There have been countless number of speeches delivered in The Senate & House. @JeffFlake 's speech will go down as one of the most historic.

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What incredible horseshit!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at October 24, 2017 08:38 PM (Nwg0u)

27 22
Flake can go fuck a duck.



Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 24, 2017 08:37 PM (nUkMr)
Oh, please, please, please.

Posted by: The Chicken at October 24, 2017 08:38 PM (14URa)

28 I seem to remember that Flake was much more conservative as a Congressman. It didn't take him long as a Senator to achieve perfect cranio-rectal fusion. This seems to happen a lot. I think he was genuinely surprised that people didn't appreciate his BS.

Posted by: pep at October 24, 2017 08:38 PM (LAe3v)

29 I miss myself already!

Posted by: Jeff Flake (R)etiring soon at October 24, 2017 08:38 PM (SkuXa)

30 >>>>At what point do the #SalonHot25/Weekly Standard/etc. drop the pose of pretending they're SUPER-DUPER Conservatives, which is why they're always attacking us, and just admit the obvious truth

About the time they admit they like the taste of penis over Rocky Road Ice Cream

Posted by: Moron who believes in a Stranglehold at October 24, 2017 08:39 PM (ZTRlp)

31 Hello all

Posted by: Anderson Cooper at October 24, 2017 08:39 PM (6n332)

32 19 Whenever I hear someone described as Libertarian, I just automatically now assume it means someone that wants to surrender to the Left on every issue that matters.
Posted by: cosmic at October 24, 2017 08:36 PM (uc45P)

___

I used to describe myself as a libertarian until I realized Libertarian (capital L) meant hard core leftism with legalized weed.

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 24, 2017 08:39 PM (1JAxC)

33 19 Whenever I hear someone described as Libertarian, I just automatically now assume it means someone that wants to surrender to the Left on every issue that matters.
Posted by: cosmic at October 24, 2017 08:36 PM (uc45P)

I mean, I describe myself as a libertarian, but in the "MOAR LIBERTY!" sense. I hate that the term now means "liberal Republican."

It sucks -- the left co-opts all of our labels. It's cultural appropriation, if you ask me.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 24, 2017 08:39 PM (wmaTe)

34 28 I seem to remember that Flake was much more conservative as a Congressman. It didn't take him long as a Senator to achieve perfect cranio-rectal fusion. This seems to happen a lot. I think he was genuinely surprised that people didn't appreciate his BS.
Posted by: pep at October 24, 2017 08:38 PM (LAe3v

He was just like me

Posted by: Ms Lindsey Grahamnesty at October 24, 2017 08:39 PM (ZTRlp)

35 Flake gone. McVain on the way out. Hillary still in the news for corruption, even after retiring to drink her way into the hereafter.

Sadly, now we are on to Antifa threatening the safety, health and welfare of college Republicans at Columbia.

What weird times we live in.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at October 24, 2017 08:40 PM (XlbwU)

36 >>> Everyone congratulate ace. He posted correctly!

law of averages comes to rescue

Posted by: ace who still doesn't know how to blog at October 24, 2017 08:40 PM (8rNrN)

37 Ya know, Harry, I've thought this many times but never actually articulated it. Paratestes is one of the all-time greatest nics I've ever seen.
Posted by: Peaches at October 24, 2017 08:34 PM (14URa)
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Agreed!

Back in the day, while bowling with buddies, I used a pay phone to call the bowling alley and have Dr. Harry Paratestes paged. The teenager at the desk dutifully paged Dr. Paratestes, Dr. Harry Paratestes a number of times. The night manager came flying out of the back where the pinsetters where, to try to get her to stop.

It was like he was running in slow motion - *Nooooooooooo*.


Posted by: Tonypete at October 24, 2017 08:40 PM (tr2D7)

38 About the time they admit they like the taste of penis over Rocky Road Ice Cream

Posted by: Moron who believes in a Stranglehold at October 24, 2017 08:39 PM (ZTRlp)

31
Hello all

Posted by: Anderson Cooper at October 24, 2017 08:39 PM (6n332)
Well, well, well, look who's here.

Posted by: Peaches at October 24, 2017 08:40 PM (14URa)

39 Scum. They're all scum. How the hell did we end up getting ruled by the worst of the worst?

Posted by: Insomniac - Frustrated and Alienated at October 24, 2017 08:40 PM (NWiLs)

40 And now Senator Principles will vote against tax reform, ie fuck over tens of millions of tax payers, to get back at Trump. Cuz you know....PRINCIPLES!!!

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 24, 2017 08:40 PM (1JAxC)

41 Flake lied his ass off to get elected to the Senate bt portraying himself as a conservative. But the people of Arizona should have known what a liar he is because he declared that he would serve no more than three terms in the House. Wrong.

Posted by: huerfano at October 24, 2017 08:40 PM (Dp2K8)

42 Good times, Allahpundit, good times

Posted by: phineas gage at October 24, 2017 08:41 PM (ALDN3)

43 10: Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 24, 2017 08:33 PM (wmaTe)
Ya know, Harry, I've thought this many times but never actually articulated it. Paratestes is one of the all-time greatest nics I've ever seen.
Posted by: Peaches at October 24, 2017 08:34 PM (14URa)

OMG ... I just got it.

I've been pronouncing your name (in my mind) all wrong- like Greek - Par-AT-ees-tees.

Posted by: LASue at October 24, 2017 08:41 PM (hZ+us)

44 39 Scum. They're all scum. How the hell did we end up getting ruled by the worst of the worst?
Posted by: Insomniac - Frustrated and Alienated at October 24, 2017 08:40 PM (NWiLs)

It started in Wyoming in 1869.

Posted by: pol hates everybody at October 24, 2017 08:41 PM (s7y11)

45 But the people of Arizona should have known what a
liar he is because he declared that he would serve no more than three
terms in the House. Wrong.


Posted by: huerfano at October 24, 2017 08:40 PM (Dp2K
You mean the people who keep electing McStain? Ninja, please. They're not all Sheriff Joe down there.

Posted by: Peaches at October 24, 2017 08:41 PM (14URa)

46 28 I seem to remember that Flake was much more conservative as a Congressman. It didn't take him long as a Senator to achieve perfect cranio-rectal fusion. This seems to happen a lot. I think he was genuinely surprised that people didn't appreciate his BS.
Posted by: pep at October 24, 2017 08:38 PM (LAe3v)

Well, that's the problem with being a poll-driven politician. Your district (or state in this case) is 55% R, 45% D, you poll your district/state on any issue, find out that 55% want you to repeal Obamacare, 45% want you to strengthen it, so you decide on the sure-to-win compromise position of keeping it exactly how it is.

Then you're shocked when you have a 17% approval rating.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 24, 2017 08:41 PM (wmaTe)

47 Mmmmm...penis...

Posted by: Don Lemon at October 24, 2017 08:42 PM (NWiLs)

48 OMG ... I just got it.

I've been pronouncing your name (in my mind) all wrong- like Greek - Par-AT-ees-tees.
Posted by: LASue at October 24, 2017 08:41 PM (hZ+us)

Heh.

Yes, yes, it's sort of punny.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 24, 2017 08:42 PM (wmaTe)

49 Hi Peaches! How are your new digs?

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at October 24, 2017 08:43 PM (/o9Qk)

50 'I seem to remember that Flake was much more conservative as a Congressman. It didn't take him long as a Senator to achieve perfect cranio-rectal fusion. This seems to happen a lot'

Washington corrupts absolutely. See Roberts, John.

Posted by: phineas gage at October 24, 2017 08:43 PM (ALDN3)

51 Whenever I hear someone described as Libertarian, I just automatically now assume it means someone that wants to surrender to the Left on every issue that matters.
Posted by: cosmic
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Perhaps be a little careful with those thoughts. Our own lovely LadyLibertarian (active on the ONT) is as conservative as they come with a burning hatred for all things left, feminist, and Democratic.

And a real babe too but 'course, she an 'ette, so. . . .

Posted by: Tonypete at October 24, 2017 08:43 PM (tr2D7)

52 I've been pronouncing your name (in my mind) all wrong- like Greek - Par-AT-ees-tees.

Posted by: LASue at October 24, 2017 08:41 PM (hZ+us)
Ah, crap. I thought it was like para- with anything. I never even counted the "harry" part. I withdraw my kudos.

Posted by: Peaches at October 24, 2017 08:43 PM (14URa)

53 Mmmmmm... Obama... Mmmmm.

Posted by: grammie's hallucination at October 24, 2017 08:43 PM (mJ8mX)

54 I would be shocked if Flake doesn't take tax reform down with them.

Remember, he's a "libertarian" but he'll keep higher taxes and say something stupid like he "wants to cut taxes AND cut spending but we have to do both at the same time!" and idiot TruCons will actually defend that bullshit.

Posted by: cosmic at October 24, 2017 08:44 PM (uc45P)

55 Our national serious switch is nailed/epoxied/vapor locked in the off position.

Jeff Flake is one of the people who put it there.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 24, 2017 08:44 PM (RHDU/)

56 Fuck Flake

Fuck McCain

Fuck Corker

Fuck Mitch The Bitch
Posted by: #neverskankles at October 24, 2017 08:32 PM (1JAxC)
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Check. Check. Check. Check.

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at October 24, 2017 08:44 PM (JhE5a)

57 39 Scum. They're all scum. How the hell did we end up getting ruled by the worst of the worst?
Posted by: Insomniac - Frustrated and Alienated at October 24, 2017 08:40 PM (NWiLs)

Same reason you get who you get as head of your Homeowners Association.

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at October 24, 2017 08:44 PM (2DOZq)

58

Assholes like Corker and Flake didn't open their mouths against Barry and all of the shit he pulled. Yet their fighting themselves to be the first to get to the microphone to denounce Trump. Intercourse all of these Quislings

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 24, 2017 08:45 PM (auHtY)

59 49
Hi Peaches! How are your new digs?


Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at October 24, 2017 08:43 PM (/o9Qk)
Hey, DG!!!! Digs are awesome. Little issues with the appliances of death and the fact that Sunday afternoon it was 80 and now it's like the arctic tundra but, overall, muy excellente! Best move I ever made. How you been?

Posted by: Peaches at October 24, 2017 08:45 PM (14URa)

60 Ah, crap. I thought it was like para- with anything. I never even counted the "harry" part. I withdraw my kudos.
Posted by: Peaches at October 24, 2017 08:43 PM (14URa)

Oh. Well, fine.

Yes, it's "hairy pair o' testes." as in Hairy Balls. It's like "ben dover" or whatnot.

There, spelled it out.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 24, 2017 08:45 PM (wmaTe)

61 Remember, he's a "libertarian" but he'll keep higher taxes and say something stupid like he "wants to cut taxes AND cut spending but we have to do both at the same time!" and idiot TruCons will actually defend that bullshit.
Posted by: cosmic at October 24, 2017 08:44 PM (uc45P)

____

Hold on, I'm taking notes, can you repeat that first part again?

Posted by: Sen. Juan McFuckstain (D) at October 24, 2017 08:45 PM (1JAxC)

62 I'm not mad, Harry, just disappointed.

Posted by: Peaches at October 24, 2017 08:46 PM (14URa)

63 Yes, it's "hairy pair o' testes." as in Hairy Balls. It's like "ben dover" or whatnot.


First Uranus joke in 3...2....1....

Posted by: pep at October 24, 2017 08:46 PM (LAe3v)

64 49 Hi Peaches! How are your new digs?
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at October 24, 2017 08:43 PM (/o9Qk)

Posted by: Mi at October 24, 2017 08:46 PM (ZTRlp)

65 I still don't get the Harry Paratestes joke

Posted by: Michael Hunt at October 24, 2017 08:47 PM (1JAxC)

66 49 Hi Peaches! How are your new digs?
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at October 24, 2017 08:43 PM (/o9Qk)


Little Sis and Peaches in the same thread. How freaking awesome is that.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 24, 2017 08:47 PM (ZTRlp)

67 Peaches, are you into the hash already?

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM and CenTexMoMee survivor at October 24, 2017 08:47 PM (gdSpe)

68 Harry Paratestes. Not bad.

Posted by: Roger Hergood at October 24, 2017 08:47 PM (2DOZq)

69 Corker is a bitter, little man. You would be too if you spoke like a kazoo.

Posted by: pep at October 24, 2017 08:47 PM (LAe3v)

70 Dear God I seemed to have spilled my martini all over this watercress sandwich!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 24, 2017 08:47 PM (4ErVI)

71 @15

Other than some temporary tax cuts over a decade ago and two SCOTUS jurists the GOP has produced nothing of value for reoughly 20 years.

And for a bonus, the supposedly fiscally conservative GOP, having controlled the House for 18 of 22 years, exploded the debt from 4 trillion to 20 trillion.

They have also offered up the first true budget in nearly a decade that's has a 600 billion dollar deficit.

The GOP is not a Conservative party.

The GOP is a useless pile of dog shit.

Posted by: Kreplach at October 24, 2017 08:48 PM (Wtll+)

72 RE: Dr. Kelly Ward

I note the near UNIVERSAL opinion on "respectable conservative" blogs, e.g., RRH, that "now that Flake is out, we can dispense with the unelectable, foot-in-mouth extremist Ward, & proceed to nominate [name of any GOPe favorite here]".

Well, Ward drove Flake out, & I expect she and her admirers may not be quite so easily pushed aside.

Posted by: mnw at October 24, 2017 08:48 PM (4hI6R)

73 Yes, it's "hairy pair o' testes." as in Hairy Balls. It's like "ben dover" or whatnot.
First Uranus joke in 3...2....1....
Posted by: pep
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Funny!

Posted by: Seymour Butz at October 24, 2017 08:48 PM (tr2D7)

74 68
Harry Paratestes. Not bad.

Posted by: Roger Hergood


Too true.

Posted by: Ivan Cherkenoff at October 24, 2017 08:49 PM (LAe3v)

75 Well, as you can tell from my nic I am very familiar with testes so....

Posted by: Jewells45can handle your jewels at October 24, 2017 08:49 PM (CNHr1)

76 59; Peaches, not tundra yet. They are supposed to get snow a little north of us this weekend. Fuck it, we'll be in Vegas.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 24, 2017 08:49 PM (KP5rU)

77 A friend of mine had a comment on the video of the rainbow flag waving guy meeting the firehose in the monkey thread.


I don't think it's his first time going down while someone blows a load in his face.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at October 24, 2017 08:49 PM (Nwg0u)

78 "I note the near UNIVERSAL opinion on "respectable conservative" blogs, e.g., RRH, that "now that Flake is out, we can dispense with the unelectable, foot-in-mouth extremist Ward, & proceed to nominate [name of any GOPe favorite here]". "

___

I'm tanned rested and ready

Posted by: Meghan McCain at October 24, 2017 08:49 PM (1JAxC)

79 I wonder if any of these 'retirements' are over the new Fusion revelations, and if any more are forthcoming.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 24, 2017 08:49 PM (oVJmc)

80 Corker is a bitter, little man. You would be too if you spoke like a kazoo
---------------

Who you calling little you ass?

Posted by: Senator Bob Corker 5'2 at October 24, 2017 08:49 PM (SkuXa)

81 67
Peaches, are you into the hash already?

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM and CenTexMoMee survivor at October 24, 2017 08:47 PM (gdSpe)
Whaddya mean, "already?" Just because I forgot I had it doesn't mean it's untested . . . And, yes, I sprinkled some on the leafy greens last night or the night before. Tasty!!!

Posted by: Peaches at October 24, 2017 08:49 PM (14URa)

82 The GOPe became the party of Little Old Ladies who are unwilling to fight... because its not nice.

Interesting thing about Men I've known... a LOT of Men put up with a LOT of shit from their Women, because its often just easier to not fight about it...

And then the Woman is suddenly surprised one day, when the Man has hit his limit. When she does something so stupid, he calls her on it and lays down the law.

That's the point we are at with the GOPe, and Washington in general.

They are our damn Mother in Law, who is used to being able to tell us silly shit... but they have finally crossed the line.

Yup... suddenly Mansplains reality.

Posted by: Don Q. at October 24, 2017 08:50 PM (NgKpN)

83 You are a vile lot.

Posted by: I. P. Freely at October 24, 2017 08:50 PM (NWiLs)

84 Hey, DG!!!! Digs are awesome. Little issues with the
appliances of death and the fact that Sunday afternoon it was 80 and
now it's like the arctic tundra but, overall, muy excellente! Best move I
ever made. How you been?


Posted by: Peaches at October 24, 2017 08:45 PM (14URa)


Aw hell, girl, temps are like that everywhere. 80's tomorrow here and 50's on Friday. I'm glad you like your new place though. Appliances can be fixed/altered to suit your needs. Freedom is a whole other ballgame.

As for here, I'm good. Work is a nightmare, when I get home from vacation, I'm actually going to start looking for a new job, which I never imagined a year ago. Meanwhile, I'm going to enjoy a few weeks with my parents, and dream of the day I can move back home.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at October 24, 2017 08:50 PM (/o9Qk)

85 Fuck Jeff Flake. I'll give Glenn Beck some credit he wa all over him awhile ago.

Posted by: thathalfrican at October 24, 2017 08:50 PM (IYHxL)

86 "Libertarian" is now establishment speak for "cheap labor" and "free trade".

Posted by: William Eaton at October 24, 2017 08:50 PM (MuTTO)

87 62 I'm not mad, Harry, just disappointed.
Posted by: Peaches at October 24, 2017 08:46 PM (14URa)

Sorry to disappoint you, peaches.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 24, 2017 08:51 PM (wmaTe)

88 Liberal Hot Dog Flavored Water.
Posted by: pol hates everybody at October 24, 2017 08:34 PM (s7y11)
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One of my specialties.

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at October 24, 2017 08:51 PM (JhE5a)

89 Other than that, how was the movie?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 24, 2017 08:51 PM (60v4h)

90 And, yes, I sprinkled some on the leafy greens last night or the night before.

Me too, IYKWIMAITTYD.

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at October 24, 2017 08:51 PM (NWiLs)

91 President Trump should demand an apology from the likes of Joe Scarhead Et Al.

And when they don't, tell everyone they are like a school on Saturday.

"No Class".

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 24, 2017 08:51 PM (nUkMr)

92 You are a vile lot.
Posted by: I. P. Freely
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Didn't you stay over the other night?

Posted by: Rusty Bedsprings at October 24, 2017 08:51 PM (tr2D7)

93 86 "Libertarian" is now establishment speak for "cheap labor" and "free trade".
Posted by: William Eaton at October 24, 2017 08:50 PM (MuTTO)

Well, free flow of labor and goods is fine -- I'm all for it.

IF (and only IF) we get rid of all welfare, subsidies, tax breaks, etc. etc.

Do that and I'm on board.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 24, 2017 08:52 PM (wmaTe)

94 Meanwhile, I'm going to enjoy a few weeks with my parents, and dream of the day I can move back home.


Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at October 24, 2017 08:50 PM (/o9Qk)
That actually sounds pretty nice, DG! Hope the job search goes well. I'm here to tell you that, at least in my case, having a job is not something one misses, except perhaps in a financial sense.

Posted by: Peaches at October 24, 2017 08:52 PM (14URa)

95 Little Sis and Peaches in the same thread. How freaking awesome is that.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 24, 2017 08:47 PM (ZTRlp)


Aw, hey big bro, I hope you are well, my friend.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at October 24, 2017 08:52 PM (/o9Qk)

96 I never thought I'd see the day when the GOP would fuck up tax cuts. I always figured well the GOP sucks, but at least if they win taxes will get cut. Now, even that 1 thing that basically described the GOP for 50 years is gone. I mean seriously, what is the fucking difference anymore between Dem and Rep control of congress? Literally nothing.

Posted by: Meghan McCain at October 24, 2017 08:52 PM (1JAxC)

97 Enough with the silly names already.

Posted by: Mike Hunt at October 24, 2017 08:53 PM (NWiLs)

98 There is one bad thing about Flake quitting: I was oh-so-much looking forward to seeing him get beat. There are many R's who I would love to see get pasted in a humiliating defeat, and he was near the top of the list.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 24, 2017 08:53 PM (FUu/Z)

99 Off Meghan Sock

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 24, 2017 08:53 PM (1JAxC)

100 There is one bad thing about Flake quitting: I was
oh-so-much looking forward to seeing him get beat. There are many R's
who I would love to see get pasted in a humiliating defeat, and he was
near the top of the list.



Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 24, 2017 08:53 PM (FUu/Z)
But that's exactly what just happened! You don't think he would have ever quit if he had a snowball's chance, do you?

Posted by: Peaches at October 24, 2017 08:54 PM (14URa)

101 Well, free flow of labor and goods is fine -- I'm all for it.

IF (and only IF) we get rid of all welfare, subsidies, tax breaks, etc. etc.

Do that and I'm on board.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 24, 2017 08:52 PM (wmaTe)

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There are billions people willing to work for $1/hr. Do you want them all to come here?

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 24, 2017 08:55 PM (1JAxC)

102 Was Chattanooga given LSD through the public water supply? How could they have elected a voice like Corker mayor, and gotten the little shit started in his long trek toward undermining DJT's administration?

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at October 24, 2017 08:55 PM (XlbwU)

103 It's past time to draw a line and put all our enemies across it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 24, 2017 08:55 PM (60v4h)

104 "Libertarian" is now establishment speak for "cheap labor" and "free trade".
Posted by: William Eaton

+++++++++


The most important thing to the "respectable" wing of the party is cheap labor.

Cheap labor on imported goods and cheap labor here to drive down middle class wages.

Everything else is window dressing.

Posted by: cosmic at October 24, 2017 08:55 PM (uc45P)

105 "...what is the fucking difference anymore between Dem and Rep control of congress?"

Impeachment and Conviction?

Posted by: Meremortal at October 24, 2017 08:55 PM (3myMJ)

106 Cultural issues - the GOP's abandonment of them en masse is why I left the party a couple of election cycles ago. It became unavoidably clear that my own party despised me every bit as much as the left does. And it's not like the GOP is better on any other set of issues. Limited government? Fiscal responsibility? You've got to be kidding me.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at October 24, 2017 08:55 PM (H5knJ)

107 Ben Rhodes has been identified as a person of interest over unmasking claims, set to testify tomorrow.

Shocked shocked shocked.

Posted by: John Marston at October 24, 2017 08:56 PM (SkuXa)

108 Flake is aptly named .

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 24, 2017 08:56 PM (+DG2g)

109 Note: "Free Trade" for people like Flake and Corker is making trade deals with Iran, China, Russia, and if need be North Korea. If that means they get new military equipment, or technology to harm us so be it. What matters is corporations who gave me donations are happy. If you don't like it...go smoke some tax free weed.

Libertarian Principles!



Posted by: William Eaton at October 24, 2017 08:56 PM (MuTTO)

110 I put up a baseball thread. Didn't even realize the World Series had started.

Posted by: ace who still doesn't know how to blog at October 24, 2017 08:56 PM (8rNrN)

111 105 "...what is the fucking difference anymore between Dem and Rep control of congress?"

Impeachment and Conviction?
Posted by: Meremortal at October 24, 2017 08:55 PM (3myMJ)

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Impeachment, yeah. Conviction....ain't happening. They need 67 yes votes. There aren't enough RINO pukes to make that happen.

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 24, 2017 08:57 PM (1JAxC)

112 There are billions people willing to work for $1/hr. Do you want them all to come here?
Posted by: #neverskankles

__________

Exactly, even if you took away all the public bennies, people would be lining up by the millions to get in here.

This libertarian vision of letting anyone and everyone come here is beyond stupid.

Posted by: cosmic at October 24, 2017 08:57 PM (uc45P)

113 I don't have a problem with these guys quitting because they claim they can't continue supporting what the party has 'become'. That's what you're supposed to do. I just wish they had realized it sooner.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at October 24, 2017 08:57 PM (2DOZq)

114 There are billions people willing to work for $1/hr. Do you want them all to come here?
Posted by: #neverskankles at October 24, 2017 08:55 PM (1JAxC)

Sure. With no artificial government influences, supply and demand would equalize as always. Meaning there would be no jobs for most of those people in the US, and they would never come here.

However, with welfare on the labor side of the equation, and gazillions of artificial barriers AND subsidies on the other side, we're nowhere near being in a country with "no artificial government influences."

So I'm fine with setting strict immigration policies while these other policies exist.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 24, 2017 08:57 PM (wmaTe)

115 Tucker just dropped a big fat hint at the end of his show.

He says the Obama Foundation is involved.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at October 24, 2017 08:58 PM (XlbwU)

116 Trump has flipped two seats before the primaries.

Posted by: Jean at October 24, 2017 08:58 PM (9TU00)

117 110
I put up a baseball thread. Didn't even realize the World Series had started.



Posted by: ace who still doesn't know how to blog at October 24, 2017 08:56 PM (8rNrN)
























And this is why you make the big bucks, Ace! You're the bestest!!!

Posted by: Peaches at October 24, 2017 08:58 PM (14URa)

118 Here's an American Thinker article (from August!) that thinks there is NO 'Republican Donor' behind the PeePee Dossier:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yavetwm5

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 24, 2017 08:58 PM (oVJmc)

119 I put up a baseball thread. Didn't even realize the World Series had started.

Posted by: ace who still doesn't know how to blog at October 24, 2017 08:56 PM (8rNrN)



The baseball season was unexpectedly canceled last week due to unfortunate events in Chicago. Whatever is going on tonight must be a repeat broadcast

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 24, 2017 08:58 PM (auHtY)

120 110 I put up a baseball thread. Didn't even realize the World Series had started.

Posted by: ace who still doesn't know how to blog at October 24, 2017 08:56 PM (8rNrN)

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World Series started? Until I read this I honestly had no idea. Not only a smart military blog but also providing relevant sports info for people who don't give a fuck about sports.

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 24, 2017 08:59 PM (1JAxC)

121 Dammit, Pixy, this is gettin' old.

Posted by: Peaches at October 24, 2017 08:59 PM (14URa)

122 The most important thing to the "respectable" wing of the party is cheap labor.

Cheap labor on imported goods and cheap labor here to drive down middle class wages.

Everything else is window dressing.
Posted by: cosmic at October 24, 2017 08:55 PM (uc45P)

Not to get back in to this argument with the horde, but I think "pretending to have someone available to prop up social security" is as important to them as "cheap labor" is. Because everyone in DC knows social security is beyond fucked and that our "changing demographics" are not looking good for the future of our generous welfare state.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 24, 2017 09:00 PM (wmaTe)

123 79
I wonder if any of these 'retirements' are over the new Fusion revelations, and if any more are forthcoming.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 24, 2017 08:49 PM (oVJmc)



Fusion GPS pee party dossier commissioned by Clinton lawyer, Marc Elias, of Perkins Coie. Just out in last hour or so.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 24, 2017 09:00 PM (tbOMB)

124 113 I don't have a problem with these guys quitting because they claim they can't continue supporting what the party has 'become'. That's what you're supposed to do. I just wish they had realized it sooner.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at October 24, 2017 08:57 PM (2DOZq)

Aren't you supposed to be the plucky comic relief?

Posted by: Insomniac - Frustrated and Alienated at October 24, 2017 09:00 PM (NWiLs)

125 I'm looking forward to Kevin Williamson's anti-ruling class screed tomorrow.

Oh, that's not happening? Weird.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at October 24, 2017 09:00 PM (XlbwU)

126 'How could they have elected a voice like Corker mayor'

I assume he lied through his teeth, just like Flake and McCain.

Posted by: phineas gage at October 24, 2017 09:01 PM (ALDN3)

127 Ya know, Harry, I've thought this many times but never actually articulated it. Paratestes is one of the all-time greatest nics I've ever seen.


Geez, I'm sitting right here!

Posted by: Mike Hunt at October 24, 2017 09:01 PM (60v4h)

128 Pastries should be flaky. The Senate, not so much.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 24, 2017 09:01 PM (/qEW2)

129 1
Fuck Flake



Fuck McCain



Fuck Corker



Fuck Mitch The Bitch
Posted by: #neverskankles at October 24, 2017 08:32 PM (1JAxC)


Fuck National Review*

Fuck Weekly Standard

*except Victor Davis Hanson

Posted by: Monty James at October 24, 2017 09:02 PM (gKOMX)

130 Speaking of fucking teh left....Chipotle is in free fall. Burn bitches!!!

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 24, 2017 09:02 PM (1JAxC)

131 And on that note, I'm out. don't care about basebool. Don't care about anything. Keep yourselves safe, Horde. At this point, you have to look out for you. No one else is going to help. Goodnight.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at October 24, 2017 09:03 PM (/o9Qk)

132 Fuck Flake



Fuck McCain



Fuck Corker



Fuck Mitch The Bitch
Posted by: #neverskankles at October 24, 2017 08:32 PM (1JAxC)


Fuck National Review*

Fuck Weekly Standard

*except Victor Davis Hanson


Fuck ME!!!


Seriously, I'll put you in the movies!

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at October 24, 2017 09:03 PM (oVJmc)

133 Flake's voting record qualifies him for Silver membership in ye olde Mark of the Beast Club.

Posted by: kallisto at October 24, 2017 09:04 PM (qV5PD)

134 Hannity is totally out of his class, trying to follow and make sense of the burgeoning stories today.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at October 24, 2017 09:04 PM (XlbwU)

135

Fusion GPS pee party dossier commissioned by Clinton lawyer, Marc Elias, of Perkins Coie. Just out in last hour or so.


So why were they protecting him over the DNC and Clinton?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 24, 2017 09:04 PM (oVJmc)

136 Flake strikes me as some greasy little bootlicker, a go-along-to-get-along ankle-biter who would contemplate doing horrible things to your orifices when your back is turned.

Posted by: Fritz at October 24, 2017 09:05 PM (Kwhm/)

137 What's wrong with the ex im bank? My co sells a lot of product in Mexico and ex im saved our ass from flakey customers.

Lotta them in Mexico.

Posted by: Jeanne del Norte, con agua fria y sabrosa at October 24, 2017 09:05 PM (B9dAp)

138 Hannity is totally out of his class, trying to follow and make sense of the burgeoning stories today.

But if he can distill it down to a soundbite, he will ride that pony until it dies.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 24, 2017 09:05 PM (60v4h)

139 Who are the teams in the world series? I recall talk about Cubs, or Dodgers or Yankees in past threads.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 24, 2017 09:05 PM (/qEW2)

140 110 I put up a baseball thread. Didn't even realize the World Series had started.

Posted by: ace who still doesn't know how to blog at October 24, 2017 08:56 PM (8rNrN)



There's the mistake. Stomping your own thread. Knew you could do it ace!

Posted by: buzzion - guess my sign at October 24, 2017 09:05 PM (z/Ubi)

141 135




Fusion GPS pee party dossier commissioned by Clinton lawyer, Marc Elias, of Perkins Coie. Just out in last hour or so.



So why were they protecting him over the DNC and Clinton?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 24, 2017 09:04 PM (oVJmc)



Smells like controlled leak to me. It's not the lawyer you are looking for, you are looking for the source of the funds that directed the lawyer, which could be anyone, including your dog. Gotta get the lawyer to give up his client, which should add another several months delay.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 24, 2017 09:07 PM (tbOMB)

142 Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at October 24, 2017 09:03 PM (/o9Qk)

Sweet dreams, babygirl! Very good to see you again, it's been quite a while. xoxo

Posted by: Peaches at October 24, 2017 09:07 PM (14URa)

143 121 Dammit, Pixy, this is gettin' old.
Posted by: Peaches at October 24, 2017 08:59 PM (14URa)



At least you're not in the barrel.

Posted by: buzzion - guess my sign at October 24, 2017 09:07 PM (z/Ubi)

144 Hannity is totally out of his class, trying to follow and make sense of the burgeoning stories today.
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man

I'm sure Maddow is all over it!

Posted by: Meremortal at October 24, 2017 09:07 PM (3myMJ)

145 I've got an 18% approval rating in my home state. That's the kind of number that spells 2020 presidential run to me homies!

Posted by: Jeff Flake (R)etard at October 24, 2017 09:09 PM (SkuXa)

146

Flake is aptly named.

So is Corker.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 24, 2017 09:10 PM (EZebt)

147 Sure. With no artificial government influences, supply and demand would equalize as always. Meaning there would be no jobs for most of those people in the US, and they would never come here.

However, with welfare on the labor side of the equation, and gazillions of artificial barriers AND subsidies on the other side, we're nowhere near being in a country with "no artificial government influences."

So I'm fine with setting strict immigration policies while these other policies exist.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 24, 2017 08:57 PM (wmaTe)

Lol they'll come here to rob, rape, and steal.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 24, 2017 09:10 PM (4ErVI)

148 Hannity drinking game using "frankly" and "literally" as the signal to drink.

How long til you are non-functional?

Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 24, 2017 09:10 PM (JyFLk)

149 There are billions people willing to work for $1/hr. Do you want them all to come here?

I want them to develop their own economies so we'll have more people to trade with.

They know what it takes: freedom, the rule of law and more freedom. If they can't see what we've done over the past 240 years and imitate that for their own people, I have no sympathy whatsoever for any of them.

Stay in your own third-world dictatorial cesspools and leave us alone.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 24, 2017 09:10 PM (tRaq7)

150 >>>Didn't even realize the World Series had started.<<<

When the Feng Shui of the Shelving Project: Phase II interferes with the blog casting couch, attention to detail must be rigorously pursued above all other influences.

Posted by: Fritz at October 24, 2017 09:10 PM (Kwhm/)

151 There have been countless number of speeches delivered in The Senate & House. Jeff Flake's speech will go down as one of the most historic.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Professor Chaos aka gumdrop gorilla at October 24, 2017 09:11 PM (Qirt6)

152 An article at CTH which pokes holes in the Fusion GPS controlled leak.


https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/10/24/ wapo-reports-clinton-campaign-and-dnc-paid-for-trump-dossier/#more-140346

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 24, 2017 09:12 PM (tbOMB)

153 Hannity is totally out of his class, trying to follow and make sense of the burgeoning stories today.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at October 24, 2017 09:04 PM (XlbwU)
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But he'll huff pre-fab lines about all of them.

Posted by: Axeman at October 24, 2017 09:13 PM (JhE5a)

154 Fusion GPS pee party dossier commissioned by Clinton lawyer, Marc Elias, of Perkins Coie. Just out in last hour or so.

According to the WashPost, he was involved later, but he was not the originator of the PeePee Papers. That is some mysterious Pubbie donor.

I still think it was Soros.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 24, 2017 09:13 PM (tRaq7)

155 You may say that the parts of the GOP they/you don't like are worse than anything on the left, ok. But that's not going to move your voters.

...

I'm not arguing either side is right or wrong (I'm sympathetic to both) but unless and until people accept the parties are coalitions and

everyone sees they are getting a reasonable return on investment...here we are.


========

I remember Drew from the podcasts (high pitched voice but supposedly very tall). He also posted occasionally here too, as a cob.

I recall he was very cynical, but I am puzzled by his vagueness in the above. *What* parts of the GOP are worse than the left? Is he sympathizing here with Flake? On what particular issue? How is he sympathetic to "both sides"? Or more specifically, to the RINO side?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 24, 2017 09:13 PM (/qEW2)

156 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

CNN, this one won't even be remembered. Much less historic. Omg. It's like you guys think history started in 2016.

Posted by: Professor Chaos aka gumdrop gorilla at October 24, 2017 09:14 PM (Qirt6)

157 Hannity is totally out of his class, trying to follow and make sense of the burgeoning stories today.
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man
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No one has ever suggested that Hannity is an intellectual giant, but he has the instincts of a Pit Bull. He latches on doesn't let go, and he's in my corner. I'm fine with him.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 24, 2017 09:14 PM (9tO1t)

158 137 What's wrong with the ex im bank? My co sells a lot of product in Mexico and ex im saved our ass from flakey customers.

Lotta them in Mexico.
Posted by: Jeanne del Norte, con agua fria y sabrosa at October 24, 2017 09:05 PM (B9dAp)

__

Ahh the old, "I benefit from it, so it's great, even if the rest of teh country has to pay for it" way of looking at things.

And you wonder why lobbyists run DC?

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 24, 2017 09:14 PM (1JAxC)

159 They all hate us and want us dead.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at October 24, 2017 09:14 PM (8/cWV)

160 Paul Manafort was working for Podesta Group and Hillary when he had Russian contacts.

Posted by: Meremortal at October 24, 2017 09:14 PM (3myMJ)

161 137 What's wrong with the ex im bank? My co sells a lot of product in Mexico and ex im saved our ass from flakey customers.

Lotta them in Mexico.
Posted by: Jeanne del Norte, con agua fria y sabrosa at October 24, 2017 09:05 PM (B9dAp)

When we sell to Mexico we make them pay before they load the trucks. They used to pay cash, not anymore.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 24, 2017 09:15 PM (Ri/rl)

162 I don't get the hate for Hannity from people here. Is he a Mensa member? No. Is he one of the very few people in the media who is on our side? Yes. So why the fucking hate? If you want an erudite show, flip to Standord and Oxford grad Ray Maddow on the next channel over.

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 24, 2017 09:16 PM (1JAxC)

163 Visualize whirled ceres.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 24, 2017 09:16 PM (/qEW2)

164 There have been countless number of speeches delivered in The Senate & House. Jeff Flake's speech will go down as one of the most historic.
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Pfft. The CD of my speeches that I gave to the Queen will go down in history as the greatest rhetoric ever delivered to mankind.

Posted by: Barky McMarxist at October 24, 2017 09:17 PM (9tO1t)

165 Every day is the most important day ever for the MSM, so today's speech by the RINO cunt was the most important speech ever. Until someone gives a speech tomorrow.

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 24, 2017 09:18 PM (1JAxC)

166 151 Jeff Flake's speech will go down as one of the most
historic.





HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA





Posted by: Professor Chaos aka gumdrop gorilla at October 24, 2017 09:11 PM (Qirt6)

They spelled "histrionic" wrong.

Posted by: Mrs. Grundy at October 24, 2017 09:18 PM (n3hky)

167 139 Who are the teams in the world series? I recall talk about Cubs, or Dodgers or Yankees in past threads.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 24, 2017 09:05 PM (/qEW2)

One team is the Dodgers, my friends went. I bet it's hot in the stadium.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 24, 2017 09:19 PM (Ri/rl)

168 but I am puzzled by his vagueness in the above.
----------------

He says not his circus, not his monkeys. Sounds like he's adopted an 'I'm above this nonsense' attitude to me.

Posted by: John Marston at October 24, 2017 09:20 PM (SkuXa)

169 Posted by: #neverskankles at October 24, 2017 09:16 PM (1JAxC)
*********************

There's a difference between appreciating that he's out there fighting the good fight and having to listen to him.

Posted by: gNewt at October 24, 2017 09:20 PM (TpMXn)

170 There have been countless number of speeches delivered in The Senate & House. Jeff Flake's speech will go down as one of the most historic.




From the audio I heard, it sounded like he was trying not to cry. Just big whiny douche

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 24, 2017 09:20 PM (auHtY)

171 I see the 'Hot 20' is now the 'Hot 25'...I take it we have added five additional assholes to the list!

Posted by: tentotwo at October 24, 2017 09:21 PM (yhf6w)

172 hey!

i was 1st when this post first when up yesterday afternoon...


Posted by: redc1c4 at October 24, 2017 09:21 PM (BOtYp)

173
Me: Honey, could you wash my khaki trousers tonight?

Her: Yes, I 'could', but then, so 'could' you.

* head bowed, gathers trou, heads to laundry room*

*hands in Man Card*

Posted by: Barky McMarxist at October 24, 2017 09:21 PM (9tO1t)

174 What's up?

Posted by: Eaton Moregina at October 24, 2017 09:22 PM (hZ+us)

175 I admire that he is relentless. That said, I can only listen for a short time.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 24, 2017 09:22 PM (JyFLk)

176 Ooops, off with Marxist scum sock

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 24, 2017 09:22 PM (9tO1t)

177 They spelled histrionic.

Posted by: Wait, wait at October 24, 2017 09:22 PM (TpMXn)

178 We will bury you.

Posted by: Bannon The RINO Slayer at October 24, 2017 09:23 PM (mcI77)

179 170: I much prefer Senator Cruz's rendition of Dr. Seuss.

Posted by: LASue at October 24, 2017 09:23 PM (hZ+us)

180 hey!

i was 1st when this post first when up yesterday afternoon...


Posted by: redc1c4
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Time travel, dude.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 24, 2017 09:24 PM (9tO1t)

181 Flake is a young Richard Lugar.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 24, 2017 09:24 PM (IqV8l)

182 I wonder if RINO Flake will give a speech about Hillary paying for the Trump Dossier. I guess that's not beyond the pale or whatever.

FUCK HIM ONCE AGAIN

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 24, 2017 09:24 PM (1JAxC)

183 I see the 'Hot 20' is now the 'Hot 25'...I take it we have added five additional assholes to the list!
Posted by: tentotwo
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There is no such thing as too much asshole.

Posted by: Hope Solo at October 24, 2017 09:25 PM (9tO1t)

184 Flake is a young Richard Lugar.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
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That's, 'Dick' Lugar.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 24, 2017 09:26 PM (9tO1t)

185 Bags of dicks all around? Sounds good?

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at October 24, 2017 09:27 PM (0OmEj)

186 Paul Ryan is saddened by Jeff Flakes passing.

Posted by: Bannon The RINO Slayer at October 24, 2017 09:27 PM (mcI77)

187 I can't carry this thread by myself, and stay off of the Wall of Shame.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 24, 2017 09:27 PM (9tO1t)

188 I downloaded the free "Innocents Abroad". I have read and enjoyed it and looked forward to the audio while I was driving. What a disappointment, the reader was dead.

You get what you pay for.

Posted by: gNewt at October 24, 2017 09:28 PM (TpMXn)

189 You get what you pay for.
Posted by: gNewt
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So, not going to buy the audio version of Hillary reading her book?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 24, 2017 09:29 PM (9tO1t)

190 Ooops, off with Marxist scum sock
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Eh, I thought it worked with that comment myself.

Posted by: John Marston at October 24, 2017 09:29 PM (SkuXa)

191 Eh, I thought it worked with that comment myself.
Posted by: John Marston
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That is singularly disturbing.

I used hot water, and too much detergent. That should restore my man cred.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 24, 2017 09:31 PM (9tO1t)

192 Of course, I was SCREAMING about this 10 years ago and no one listened to me but that's on y'all not me.



Hey, I was SCREAMING about this and more before the Iraq war, and now one listened to me either!

Also, the Republican don't have to talk 'cultural issues', just enforce the fvcking laws they are there for! Like, the Immigration laws. And do their jobs, like Obamacare repeal.
And have a replacement. They had a decade to cobble something together. But noooo, they are going to cocktail parties with lobbyists and laughing about the stupid citizens.

They don't & haven't cared for the people for a long time. Hell, why should they, other than integrity, honor or ethics. But we don't "do" those anymore.

Their calculations are pretty clear. Dems are so far left, Republicans won't vote for them. That leaves the GOP. They just have to make some promises and they keep our jobs. Some hope is better than none at all for the rubes.

They are worse then Dems b/c they are traitors.



Posted by: Professor Chaos aka gumdrop gorilla at October 24, 2017 09:32 PM (Qirt6)

193 * no one

Not 'now one'

Damn.

Posted by: Professor Chaos aka gumdrop gorilla at October 24, 2017 09:33 PM (Qirt6)

194 173


Me: Honey, could you wash my khaki trousers tonight?



Her: Yes, I 'could', but then, so 'could' you.



* head bowed, gathers trou, heads to laundry room*



*hands in Man Card*

Posted by: Barky McMarxist at October 24, 2017 09:21 PM (9tO1t)

It sounds almost like being a bachelor without all of the silence.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Find Son of a Son, Son of a Son, Son of a Son of Sonobi at the Outrage Outlet! at October 24, 2017 09:35 PM (66/E/)

195 187 I can't carry this thread by myself, and stay off of the Wall of Shame.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 24, 2017 09:27 PM (9tO1t)


Speakin' of the Wall of Shame....I wanna know how Insominic and I were 1st and 10th, respectively for 3 weeks running!? Like what are the odds of that?

Posted by: Tami at October 24, 2017 09:36 PM (Enq6K)

196 Speakin' of the Wall of Shame....I wanna know how Insominic and I were 1st and 10th, respectively for 3 weeks running!? Like what are the odds of that?
Posted by: Tami
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It's as if there is a pattern.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 24, 2017 09:41 PM (9tO1t)

197 I've never liked Manafort. Not for his work for Pres. Ford; that was fair. But because after Reagan freed Eastern Europe, Manafort tried to keep it under Russian control for the money. I'm not surprised he was in business with the Podestas. They're all Uni-Party vultures.

And that still goes for Mueller, Comey and Rosenstein, too. They knew all about this; they're just throwing the other rats under the bus hoping it will end there.

It won't.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 24, 2017 09:42 PM (Ndje9)

198
OMG, the Dems are striking back with the sex harassment shit.

Some dingbat actress claims she was "sexually assaulted" by a former Republican president. George Bush.

Not W., but 41, the old man, Bush the Elder. And from his wheelchair. She says he grabbed her ass sitting in his wheelchair.

That is, just, special.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 24, 2017 09:42 PM (8O3HH)

199 I've never liked Manafort. Not for his work for Pres. Ford; that was fair. But because after Reagan freed Eastern Europe, Manafort tried to keep it under Russian control for the money. I'm not surprised he was in business with the Podestas. They're all Uni-Party vultures.

And that still goes for Mueller, Comey and Rosenstein, too. They knew all about this; they're just throwing the other rats under the bus first, hoping it will end there.

It won't.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 24, 2017 09:43 PM (Ndje9)

200 Why was her ass sitting in his wheelchair?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 24, 2017 09:44 PM (60v4h)

201 Not W., but 41, the old man, Bush the Elder. And from his wheelchair. She says he grabbed her ass sitting in his wheelchair.

That is, just, special.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 24, 2017 09:42 PM (8O3HH)

Maybe she's tall, and her boobies were out of reach?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 24, 2017 09:45 PM (O848g)

202 OMG, the Dems are striking back with the sex harassment shit.

Some dingbat actress claims she was "sexually assaulted" by a former Republican president. George Bush.

Not W., but 41, the old man, Bush the Elder. And from his wheelchair. She says he grabbed her ass sitting in his wheelchair.

That is, just, special.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 24, 2017 09:42 PM (8O3HH)



Was that the event that Slick Willie was at?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 24, 2017 09:45 PM (auHtY)

203 My bitches know if an ass is smackable, it's getting smacked!

Posted by: George H.W. Bush at October 24, 2017 09:45 PM (SkuXa)

204 It won't.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 24, 2017 09:43 PM (Ndje9)

You can say that again! oh,....wait

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 24, 2017 09:46 PM (O848g)

205 My bitches know if an ass is smackable, it's getting smacked!

Posted by: George H.W. Bush at October 24, 2017 09:45 PM (SkuXa)



I chortled out loud.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 24, 2017 09:47 PM (60v4h)

206
This dingbat's name is Heather Lind. See the Daily Mail.

He grabbed her ass and told her a dirty joke, she says. Then grabbed her again. Said Barbara rolled her eyes, "Oh, George!" or something, and his SS people told her never to stand too close to him.

Yeah, Bush the Elder is a regular Slick Willie, or Uncle Harvey even. Yeah, yeah.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 24, 2017 09:48 PM (8O3HH)

207 What was she doing sitting in his wheelchair?

Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2017 09:48 PM (zLDYs)

208 I don't comment much anymore and I am sorry for that Horde. I lurk everyday. Check Drudge (spit) and BB for headlines. Then I come here for the comments to get the real insight into what is happening. I try to read the Ace stuff but the damn Ewok is always passed out from dehydration or from shelves hitting him in the head or he posts it in the sidebar or banning himself from the smart military blog (I kid, Ace is the best political/social blogger/reporter/writer/Mark Twain or whatever of our time). You cobs aren't half bad either

This sh!t with Fusion GPS and throwing Hilldogz and the DNC under the bus to protect who? It's huge. Ain't plz clap or any of the other gope gimps. Looks like big time playa's.

Just my wild a$$ gue$$ but I bet no $ that it was fbi/cia/dog eater/hilldogz ic/doj/congress/facebook/Mexicans (at least over the Russians).

"Man makes plans and God laughs." If one of you Jew fuc...people could provide the proper quote/citation above. I am in your debt!!!

Posted by: prophet at October 24, 2017 09:48 PM (KIJKy)

209 they won't be satisfied until the hordes of muslims appear on the horizon about to breach the defenses and carry off the women.

The media is like Venice in the time of the collapse of the Byzantine Empire.

They claimed they were trying to support the Empire but it turned out only so they could ascend the throne.

Trouble is their sack of the Empire let the Muslims in to finish off the Empire and thus the Ottoman Empire was born. To last almost 600 years.

And the fables of those times infest the day dreams of ALL the Muslims in the ME. They LONG for the days of the Empire and feel they've been ripped off somehow that the Kafir hasn't laid down and prostrated themselves to them.

But somehow may actually be winning (again) alone with the hated Jew.

Enough. Islam is an infection that we've been trying to eradicate for centuries and we were almost there until the crypto Muslim took office. Now once again we're back and this time I hope we can finish off any dreams of Empire once and for all at least for a few generations.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead) at October 24, 2017 09:48 PM (cEeb1)

210 What is Mitch the Bitch McCuckold McConnell goinna do when his liberal buddies Flake, McCain and Corker are replaced by someone more right of center than these RINOS. He is running out of excuses to get crap done. Of course he didnt need an excuse to get sutff done when Obama was president. He and RINO RYan just passed all of Obama's agenda.

Posted by: retired military at October 24, 2017 09:52 PM (B764o)

211 where do I enlist in Bannon's army?

Posted by: booknlass at October 24, 2017 09:53 PM (9mZIr)

212 Its almost as if they don't think and just repeat the talking points they were told.

Posted by: buzzion - guess my sign at October 24, 2017 09:54 PM (z/Ubi)

213 could be Soros at the top of it all, too.

Posted by: booknlass at October 24, 2017 09:57 PM (9mZIr)

214 I hate the GOP

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 24, 2017 09:57 PM (qUPFC)

215 154
Fusion GPS pee party dossier commissioned by Clinton lawyer, Marc Elias, of Perkins Coie. Just out in last hour or so.



According to the WashPost, he was involved later, but he was not the originator of the PeePee Papers. That is some mysterious Pubbie donor.


I still think it was Soros.



Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 24, 2017 09:13 PM (tRaq7)


That's the spin. And I would not be surprised that the money ultimately originated with Soros. He funds quite a few Rs in addition to Ds.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 24, 2017 09:58 PM (tbOMB)

216 And GFY, GWB.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 24, 2017 09:59 PM (qUPFC)

217 211
where do I enlist in Bannon's army?

Posted by: booknlass at October 24, 2017 09:53 PM (9mZIr)




I am thinking about trying to get a job there. If you are going to fight, might as well pick the winning team.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 24, 2017 09:59 PM (tbOMB)

218 Soros: another name for the Devil.

Posted by: booknlass at October 24, 2017 09:59 PM (9mZIr)

219 flounder, do you mean you're getting a job at BB? or are you considering, as I am, in volunteering to campaign for the replacement congressionals who will advance President Trump's agenda?

I'm thinking about it too.

Posted by: booknlass at October 24, 2017 10:04 PM (9mZIr)

220 Posted by: Mikey NTH - Find Son of a Son, Son of a Son, Son of a Son of
Sonobi at the Outrage Outlet! at October 24, 2017 09:35 PM (66/E/)

Why I don't consider marriage a fair partnership:

They don't cook, they don't sew, they don't clean, they don't wash, they don't do much of anything that their mother did for their dads.

Yet they expect that you will support them in all things. (maybe money but mostly cheerleading)
They want your undivided attention.
They provide Sex or sexual gratification reluctantly. with strings.
They burden you with their parents.
They deflate your ego and every opportunity.
They complain you're not the man you used to be.
But when you explain all that they have done to
make this happen, you're uncaring and cruel.
They want lots of material items but her money is
her money. You're supposed to provide for everything.
She complains you don't go out anywhere. She works in an office where her work load consists of moving papers from one place to anoother while you have to life and carry and sweat.

(need I go on?) Now of course it's not that bad in every marriage all the time. But it's almost that bad almost often enough to give an observant man pause for thought.

When I'm ready for the feed bag and the bridle, I'll let you know.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead) at October 24, 2017 10:04 PM (cEeb1)

221 Am I about 100 posts too late?

Posted by: C. Moore Butz, Doctor of Proctology at October 24, 2017 10:05 PM (FcMKr)

222 "Am I about 100 posts too late?

Posted by: C. Moore Butz, Doctor of Proctology at October 24, 2017 10:05 PM (FcMKr)"

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You are never too late to C. Moore Butz.

Posted by: Decaf at October 24, 2017 10:08 PM (r6Y2i)

223 "The JournoList Word of the Day"

Missing the boat. Could be a great Reality show!

Hollywood producers should get on this.

Is everyone still running from Uncle Harvey's shadow?

Posted by: Left Coast dawg at October 24, 2017 10:09 PM (2Eso0)

224 Oh, the women hating again. I'm out.

Posted by: Professor Chaos aka gumdrop gorilla at October 24, 2017 10:09 PM (Qirt6)

225 ont! ont!

Posted by: paula revere at October 24, 2017 10:12 PM (9mZIr)

226 off revolutionary rider sock

Posted by: booknlass at October 24, 2017 10:13 PM (9mZIr)

227 Mueller conflicted on Russia?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ybt26n35

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at October 24, 2017 10:16 PM (XlbwU)

228 I know Ace still likes Drew, but he's a total douche. Read his Twitter timeline and see for yourself. If he's not as insufferable a Never Trumper as Allahpundit, he's a very close second.

Posted by: crrr6 (hotair refugee) at October 24, 2017 10:19 PM (f23HZ)

229 The Russian story is a dead duck other than Drudge.

Posted by: Meremortal at October 24, 2017 10:24 PM (3myMJ)

230 Jeff, quit now. Go away. Ask Mika for a job.

Posted by: Buffalobob at October 24, 2017 11:06 PM (3P5C1)

231 Democrats/MSM scumbags love a good GOP retirement speech as much as a good concession speech.

Posted by: James at October 24, 2017 11:18 PM (jxw6R)

232 Hey, I was useful!

Posted by: Sgt. Bergdahl at October 24, 2017 11:18 PM (6dFYM)

233 Why doesn't Flake flip parties?

Posted by: torabora at October 24, 2017 11:21 PM (6dFYM)

234 Female Democratic politicians (Scankles), pundits and others (Michelle Obama) cry sexism in electoral politics.

So why haven't they endorsed Nicole Mallliotakis for Mayor of New York City over Bill DeCommio, and Kim Guadagmo for Governor of New Jersey over Phil Bernie Goldman Sachs Murphy? I'd love to hear their answers. In truth, they really don't want more women to get elected to high office. They want leftists to get elected.

Murphy will be elected Governor of New Jersey, because fatzo's last four years as governor have been bad (Bridgegate only scratches the surface), NJ is a deep blue state, suburban voters in places like Bergen and Middlesex Counties are heavily Democratic, and even with a Republican Governor for eight years, the Democrats held both houses of the state legislature. Many voters have forgotten who Jon Corrine is.

DeCommio will be re-elected Mayor of NYC: 40 percent of NYC voters have never voted for a Republican for any office. Trump got 19 percent of the vote in NYC. Malliotakis voted for Trump. Finally, it took 30 years of decay and mayhem before Rudy Giuliani was narrowly elected Mayorr in 1993. Another 30 years of decay and mayhem will be needed before a Republican can win again.

Posted by: mercenary13 at October 24, 2017 11:27 PM (LtLhF)

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 25, 2017 05:03 AM (mpXpK)

236 Republicans "treating the actual base like whores they just fucked when they needed a quick release." This is why I've been slamming my phone on GOP party fundraisers for a decade. And I do mean slam: I have an old bakelite phone that makes a satisfying thunk when I mash down the receiver.

I told them I'd not send them another DIME until they started sending us Conservative candidates.

Posted by: Under Construction at October 25, 2017 05:20 AM (CoWnZ)

237 >>>There have been countless number of speeches delivered in The Senate & House. @JeffFlake 's speech will go down as one of the most historic.


Profiles In Doucheage

Posted by: x at October 25, 2017 08:45 AM (nFwvY)

238 Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

Posted by: Axeman at October 25, 2017 10:46 AM (2mC6G)

239 Profiles In Doucheage
Posted by: x at October 25, 2017 08:45 AM (nFwvY)
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Profiles in marm-age.

Posted by: Axeman at October 25, 2017 10:48 AM (2mC6G)

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