Outstanding: Salon Announces the 25 "Conservative" Twitter Accounts That Salon Readers Would Love Reading

Tim Miller (@TimoDC), former Jeb Bush campaign staffer.

Ana Navaro, #FakeNews CNN "Republican" who donates a lot of money to Bob Menendez, currently being tried for corruption in a case largely ignored by CNN, because "he's part of our family."

Jennifer Rubin, who recently stopped pretending to oppose the Iran Deal and now wants to keep it in force #BecausePrinciples.

Ben Howe, noted Twitter omnipresence. To give him credit, one of the few of the general-election #NeverTrumpers to forthrightly admit that he supported Hillary. The rest of them lie about it while making it pretty clear that they're lying about it. You know, like they learned from their mainstream media buddies.

"The" Rick Wilson, the super ethical and super important Republican that no one except for some twitter shut-ins ever really heard of until he went full #ImWithHer.

Oh, and this sounds riveting:

1/ Ben Howe and I are producing a feature-length documentary on the disastrous 1st year of the Trump Administration.
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) September 20, 2017

Bill Kristol. Obviously. A guy who came into conservative prominance the old fashioned way, through the birth canal. His wife recently announced her donation to the Democrat candidate for Virginia's governor.

Steven Hayes, puttering Chief Purser to Captain Kristol on the Snooze Cruise, still trying to prove the captain's theory that the Russian mess boys stole the Vote Strawberries.

John Weaver, adviser to John McCain and John Kasich.

Tom Nichols, a guy who wrote a book stating that people should defer to experts in all things, but feels free himself to opine on everything, not just his area of actual credentialed expertise (Russian affairs). Apparently once you've decided you're Generally A Smartie you become a Expert Emiritus.

By the way, the academic field concerning the study of knowledge is epistemology. I am aware of no credentials making Tom Nichols an expert in, or even a student of, this field.

Kat Timpf, respected Fox newsblonde.

Stuart Stevens, former Mitt Romney adviser.

Noah Rothman, liberalish establishment fetchbot of Jon Podhoretz. He notoriously called for the purging of all Republicans who supported Trump in the general election. Yet he remains nominally Republican himself.

Jon Podhoretz, another noted lesser scion of a conservative intellectual who reviews movies and makes terrible, awkward-silence jokes in his few TV appearances.

SE Cupp, two-trick pony.

And of course David Frum, another one of the "conservative" media geniuses who was born into the gig.

The list is rounded out by a veritable Who's Who of Who Cares? (Joke stolen from Diversity and Comics.) Including some guys from the preposterously-named "Buckley Club," who also have the Urge to Purge.

A friend pointed out that some of these people seem to think the only big thing Buckley did was excommunicating the Birchers.

Finally:

AllahPundit, noted conservative Republican.

He's having a snit, of course, about being named in this list, and suggesting maybe it's a #FalseFlag operation to discredit the real conservatives:

I got a kick out of the Salon piece because I knew the moment I saw it that it would trigger the type of RINO panic evinced by Rush in the clip. If the left says you're worth paying attention to, that’s mathematic proof that you’re not worth paying attention to.

It is and you're not.

...
(Which follows logically from the definition of conservatism in the age of Trump, "Whatever makes liberals cry.")

He says this every second day. That, and suggesting "nationalism" is a species of racism, without explaining how he can be for All the Wars without believing in nationalism.

If you don't believe that you have a greater duty to protect American lives than non-American ones, how can you ever agitate for a foreign war?

You can't. That's why transnational progressives are stridently anti-war -- unless it can be conclusively proven that American interests cannot possibly be advanced by the war.

...
Everyone on there is *broadly* right-wing but they run the gamut from centrists like David Frum and Ana Navarro...

Sure. Ana Navarro. Super conservative just like you, Allah!

It’s not a list of 25 conservatives, it’s a list of 25 people across the righty spectrum who are willing to crack a joke at Trump’s expense.

The blue left of the spectrum. The people who actively propagandized for Hillary Clinton's election while lying and claiming they were doing no such thing.

Why else would Salon be interested in our accounts? You think the Salon audience is eager for challenging rebuttals to the glories of single-payer?

#FalseFlag operation. Just trying to keep AllahPundit's scary-important policy analyses from gaining any traction on the right.

Here's Super Conservative (just ask him!) Allahpundit retweeting Max Boot's claim that it's time for the Super True Cons to abandon the GOP:

Just "crackin' jokes at Trump's expense," I guess.

If you want a taste of AllahPundit, review his pre-election poll "analysis" pieces (which he seems to specialize in, despite not having any demonstrable training in or interest in statistics) in which he basically repeatedly trolled Hot Air's readers by telling them they were essentially #ScienceDeniers for claiming Trump even had a chance to win.

He doesn't even bother hiding the contempt he holds for Hot Air's audience or conservatives who want to do little things like keep Hillary Clinton out of the White House. His real audience is his twitter buddies.

So there you go -- your Salon-endorsed True Conservatives that Salon readers will find to their great liking.

Posted by: Ace at 01:41 PM

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Posted by: Clay, unimpressed with your wokeness at October 17, 2017 01:41 PM (T2Zv1)

2 Hey look!

A "fuck these guys in particular" list

Posted by: Rick in SK at October 17, 2017 01:42 PM (FZYNt)

3 Time machine engage!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 17, 2017 01:42 PM (rjrh3)

4 Well...it beats doing teen porn!

Posted by: Kat Timpf at October 17, 2017 01:42 PM (O5Q3r)

5 This makes me extraordinarily sad. I always thought Ace and Allah were buddies -- like, real life buddies away from this nonsense. I still read them both, though I fall more in agreement with Ace these days. But at the same time I can't deny Ace's anger is merited, because Allah just gets so damn obtuse about it all.

Sigh. To better days, soon to come.

Posted by: Sausage McMuffin at October 17, 2017 01:43 PM (e4ZX9)

6 Eh, its Salon. This is like a list of the best Italian dishes from Olive Garden.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 01:43 PM (39g3+)

7 4 Well...it beats doing teen porn!
Posted by: Kat Timpf

It's a good gig if you can pull it off

Posted by: Hope Harper at October 17, 2017 01:43 PM (FZYNt)

8 It's a very useful list, in fact.

25 Traitorous Never Trumping Pieces of Shit you should never read, look at, or consider ever again.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2017 01:43 PM (k1TUh)

9 Two-trick pony. That's gold.

Posted by: NYCcon at October 17, 2017 01:43 PM (WBmux)

10 The only use of this list is to mock and poke at the people on it, hoping to move them toward sanity. Guys who used to be good like Podhoretz are on the list. That should be a serious wakeup call.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 01:44 PM (39g3+)

11 Wake me up if S.E. Cupps decides to get into porn

Posted by: Rick in SK at October 17, 2017 01:44 PM (FZYNt)

12 Chelsea Handler is noticeably absent from that list. WTF?

Posted by: Roy at October 17, 2017 01:44 PM (7n4KQ)

13 They simply refuse to understand that what the country needs is an opposition party. We don't need our "betters" in the Demo-lite party to tell us what to do. And we are beyond tired of being sneered at by both Democrats and "true" Republicans. If they can't give us what we want, we'll do it our own way.

Posted by: notsothoreau at October 17, 2017 01:45 PM (JKNZq)

14 I'm sure they are all part of the "we" that McCain invoked in his speech accepting the far left award for his service to the Great Cause.

Rush took the "we" as being the average American but that is the mask. McCain's "we" is not me or thee or any deplorable.

Posted by: geoffb at October 17, 2017 01:45 PM (zOpu5)

15 Did Egg McMuffin make the list?

Posted by: Glenn John at October 17, 2017 01:45 PM (LilNs)

16 And I wish they'd added Megan McArdle to their list.

Posted by: notsothoreau at October 17, 2017 01:45 PM (JKNZq)

17 Oh, AP. I used to read him religiously. No more. Now my only stop is here.

Posted by: iwuzhere at October 17, 2017 01:45 PM (QS3Sf)

18 It would be interesting to see a Venn diagram of these (R)s and (R)s who call Muslim terrorists Muslim terrorists.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 17, 2017 01:45 PM (rjrh3)

19 When allahpundit gleefully kicked Ace off of his links page (or at least cheered the decision to do so) that was it. Allahpundit, and his cohorts, some of who I used to enjoy, like Ed, are dead to me.

No looking back. This is war, and they betrayed me, and all of us.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2017 01:45 PM (k1TUh)

20 Salon. Porno for Pyros. Who gives a fuck what those cornholers think about anything? What's next? Security for Dummies with the Mandalay Bay Security Squad? Ffs.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 17, 2017 01:46 PM (KP5rU)

21 The salon is one of my favorite places.

Posted by: Shep Smith at October 17, 2017 01:46 PM (DrC22)

22 You know what says, "Douchebag"? Wearing a fedora on your Twitter feed.

Posted by: tu3031 at October 17, 2017 01:46 PM (O5Q3r)

23 They omitted Larry O'Donnell, noted anti-loud noise activist and *staunch* conservative.

Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2017 01:46 PM (53MZt)

24 The "Me, too!" list.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 17, 2017 01:46 PM (rjrh3)

25 a list of quislings.

Posted by: Your Media Overlords at October 17, 2017 01:46 PM (P8FeH)

26 Most of these 25 noted by Salon are about as well known as the "comedians" who get mention here from time to time.

Posted by: RioBravo at October 17, 2017 01:46 PM (SsblQ)

27 Who is Salon kidding? These people give me the vapors.

Posted by: Lena Dunham at October 17, 2017 01:46 PM (DrC22)

28 It's limp penises, all the way down.

Posted by: wooga at October 17, 2017 01:46 PM (YjLwR)

29 off, willowed sock!

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 17, 2017 01:47 PM (P8FeH)

30 >>>If you want a taste of AllahPundit, ...

Is it like a potted plant?

Posted by: Roy at October 17, 2017 01:47 PM (7n4KQ)

31 >>>This makes me extraordinarily sad. I always thought Ace and Allah were buddies -- like, real life buddies away from this nonsense.

eh, if you meet someone a couple of times and exchange some emails, are you really "buddies"?

There is a type of relationship which you'd say is "friendly" yet is not friendship. Most relationships are like this -- thin, superficial, untested.

Doesn't mean they're not relationships. It just means they're paper thin, like most relationships must be.

At any rate, at some point, you can just have fucking enough of someone.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 01:47 PM (8rNrN)

32 Quite a useful story, actually. I will dump all of these in my browser as blacklisted sites.

Posted by: joncelli, going phalangist at October 17, 2017 01:47 PM (RD7QR)

33 What? No Kasich?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 17, 2017 01:47 PM (Mouru)

34 15 Did Egg McMuffin make the list?
Posted by: Glenn John at October 17, 2017 01:45 PM (LilNs)

Pretty sure he can't even pretend to be conservative anymore.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at October 17, 2017 01:48 PM (72PAC)

35 Should include all writers at Commentary. Michael Rubin used to be worth reading for middle east stuff.

Posted by: Glenn John at October 17, 2017 01:48 PM (LilNs)

36 Allah finally getting a look in to the mirror and not liking what he saw, eh?

Posted by: Gaff at October 17, 2017 01:48 PM (jPS2y)

37 Weren't Ace and Allah friends a long time ago? Like, both lived in New York and would hang out and see movies with other people?

Or was that someone else?

Anyway, AllahPundit is so, so tiresome.

Exit question: Is there an endgame for Nevertrumpers? If Trump is re-elected, what do they *do*?

Posted by: Lance McCormick at October 17, 2017 01:48 PM (u0s1P)

38 22 You know what says, "Douchebag"? Wearing a fedora.
Posted by: tu3031 at October 17, 2017 01:46 PM (O5Q3r)

FTFY

Posted by: the real ch3 at October 17, 2017 01:48 PM (IG5KL)

39 Hilarious that it is exactly the people we all would put on a list of limp wristed NeverTrumper celebrity wannabes

Posted by: steevy at October 17, 2017 01:48 PM (rmVvL)

40 Steven Hayes, puttering Chief Purser to Captain Kristol on the Snooze Cruise, still trying to prove the captain's theory that the Russian mess boys stole the Vote Strawberries.

------

Beautiful.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 17, 2017 01:48 PM (U+nHb)

41 >>SE Cupp, two-trick pony

Zod will teach her a third trick. It will involve a ballgag and some other stuff.

Posted by: Zod at October 17, 2017 01:48 PM (Bdeb0)

42 At any rate, at some point, you can just have fucking enough of someone.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 01:47 PM (8rNrN)

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Just ask Hotair's pre- and post-election traffic.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 17, 2017 01:48 PM (rjrh3)

43 Weird, isn't this the same as the AoSHQ Approved Liberals or hot babes in glasses list?

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein's Potted Plant at October 17, 2017 01:48 PM (6n332)

44 Charles Johnson is drinking heavily today.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 17, 2017 01:48 PM (Mouru)

45 So many worthless RINO's, so few fish bats.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 17, 2017 01:48 PM (mcI77)

46 SE Cupp has a couple of things going for her at least....

Posted by: steevy at October 17, 2017 01:48 PM (rmVvL)

47 22 You know what says, "Douchebag"? Wearing a fedora on your Twitter feed.
Posted by: tu3031 at October 17, 2017 01:46 PM (O5Q3r)

Even worse is getting Matt Damon to wear one on your feed.

Posted by: Roy at October 17, 2017 01:48 PM (7n4KQ)

48 I'd wager that David French is pissed.

Posted by: RioBravo at October 17, 2017 01:49 PM (SsblQ)

49 Allahpundit was so great during the Iraq war, all the hilarious images. Then he lost his head.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 01:49 PM (39g3+)

50

Mcmuff didn't make the list because he's not a blogger/writer.

Mcmuff is a Twitterer.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 01:49 PM (ANIVY)

51 Who are these people?

Posted by: Victor Davis Hanson at October 17, 2017 01:49 PM (DrC22)

52 a fedora is fine. A trilby is douchy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 01:49 PM (39g3+)

53 >>>46 SE Cupp has a couple of things going for her at least....

that's why I said she was a two trick pony.

My subtlety is lost on you savages.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 01:49 PM (8rNrN)

54 When allahpundit gleefully kicked Ace off of his links page (or at least cheered the decision to do so) that was it. Allahpundit, and his cohorts, some of who I used to enjoy, like Ed, are dead to me.

Wait, what? I must've missed that.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at October 17, 2017 01:49 PM (u0s1P)

55 There is a type of relationship which you'd say is "friendly" yet is not friendship. Most relationships are like this -- thin, superficial, untested.

My favorite friendship test? You pass it with my dick in your mouth.

Posted by: Shep Smith at October 17, 2017 01:50 PM (Mouru)

56 That list will come in handy.

Posted by: Star Chamber at October 17, 2017 01:50 PM (Q0dwZ)

57 What no Erik Eriikson?

Posted by: freaked at October 17, 2017 01:50 PM (72I/n)

58 Ace, I think you give this list too much credit for being broad spectrum republicans. I would call them Dems or soft lefties.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 17, 2017 01:50 PM (U+nHb)

59 SE Cupp, two-trick pony.

LOL Yep

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 17, 2017 01:50 PM (ul9CR)

60 I've always heard the joke as "a veritable Who's That of X."

Works either way, though.

Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at October 17, 2017 01:50 PM (IpZ3i)

61 I have a Master's degree in Library Science - which deals with Knowledge Organization and Epistemology.

I can authoritatively say that these people are full of shit and generally mislabel their true intentions in order to mislead the audience.

F**k them all.

Posted by: Cranky Librarian at October 17, 2017 01:50 PM (UqvOH)

62 15 Did Egg McMuffin make the list?

McMuffin is a regular Conan the Barbarian compared to this list. Too much machismo.

Posted by: wooga at October 17, 2017 01:50 PM (YjLwR)

63 AllahPundit is a national hero and a world class taint painter.

Posted by: Jake Tapper at October 17, 2017 01:50 PM (SkuXa)

64 Tweetering does not count as writing?

Posted by: Glenn John at October 17, 2017 01:50 PM (LilNs)

65 53 No I got it.I just did my own lame variation on the same joke.

Posted by: steevy at October 17, 2017 01:51 PM (rmVvL)

66 At any rate, at some point, you can just have fucking enough of someone.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 01:47 PM (8rNrN)
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Gawd, i hope so!

Posted by: The Chicken at October 17, 2017 01:51 PM (P8FeH)

67 You know what says, "Douchebag"? Wearing a fedora on your Twitter feed.

Posted by: tu3031 at October 17, 2017 01:46 PM (O5Q3r)

----

I'd be surprised if that's him. I know that, other than all of their anti-facebook posts before switching to facebook, the anonymity element was part of what pissed off their user base when they switched to facebook.

Hard to keep readers when you insist you can remain anonymous while they need to identify themselves.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 17, 2017 01:51 PM (rjrh3)

68 I remember when we were once chastised for ripping on little pussyboy allahpundit.

Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2017 01:51 PM (cAnNx)

69 All the globalists who are so enamored of their cheap gardeners, pool boys, and maids that they will ruin the country to get them. All the globalists who sold us on the idea that nation-building would be a cakewalk. All those people.

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 17, 2017 01:51 PM (ujg0T)

70 Max Boot is brain-dead. His book 'War Made New' is what a mediocre intellect looks like at work.

Posted by: Zod at October 17, 2017 01:51 PM (Bdeb0)

71 Pick me! Pick me!

Posted by: David Brooks at October 17, 2017 01:51 PM (DrC22)

72 Egg McMuffin didn't make the list.

You know that had to hurt.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 17, 2017 01:51 PM (ul9CR)

73
Here's another "conservative" Salon readers would love to read/follow:

Charlie Sykes.

Sykes, who most of us never heard of before, is a staunch Republican, or was, anyway. But now he's a Voice of Reason (a.k.a. Leftist who pretends to be a centrist or a former Republican) who can be seen on Fake News.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 01:52 PM (ANIVY)

74 I have a Master's degree in Library Science - which deals with Knowledge Organization and Epistemology.

I get the knowledge organization but I though epistemologies were only done by obstetricians.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 17, 2017 01:52 PM (Mouru)

75 "1
1st

Posted by: Clay, unimpressed with your wokeness"

*kick over flag"

First!

hic!

*plants face*

Posted by: Hillary! at October 17, 2017 01:52 PM (MxEKc)

76 I followed the link and got a 'Windows Defender' warning, including a toll free number to call for assistance.

I'm on a Mac.

Posted by: fluffy at October 17, 2017 01:52 PM (cHbmY)

77 I have to say,the ones that made me angriest and made me quit Twiiter were Ben Howe and Noah Rothman.

Posted by: steevy at October 17, 2017 01:52 PM (rmVvL)

78
What? SE Cupp is a pony girl?

Link, please.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 17, 2017 01:52 PM (8O3HH)

79 22 You know what says, "Douchebag"? ~~Wearing a fedora on your Twitter feed.~~ taking whore money from American Crossroads

Posted by: Under Fire at October 17, 2017 01:52 PM (mcI77)

80 Brooks is no republican. That hilarious show he put on after he interviewed Obama, come on. Not only not republican or conservative, more like embarrassingly "star" struck 15 year old girl.

Pant crease, indeed.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 17, 2017 01:52 PM (U+nHb)

81 Tom Nichols, a guy who wrote a book stating that people should defer to experts in all things, but feels free himself to opine on everything, not just his area of actual credentialed expertise (Russian affairs). Apparently once you've decided you're Generally A Smartie you become a Expert Emiritus.

I didn't know Tom Nichols had a JD.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 17, 2017 01:52 PM (mf5HN)

82 Scathing piece, ace. Great stuff.

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 17, 2017 01:52 PM (NWiLs)

83 that's why I said she was a two trick pony.

My subtlety is lost on you savages.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 01:49 PM (8rNrN)

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I missed that one completely. I thought it was much, MUCH more subtle but that I just hadn't caught it yet.

Think two girls/one cupp.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 17, 2017 01:52 PM (rjrh3)

84 And this was way back,when Trump was an unlikely nominee.

Posted by: steevy at October 17, 2017 01:52 PM (rmVvL)

85
David French is another piece of shit phony.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 01:52 PM (ANIVY)

86 A good pool boy is hard to find.

Posted by: G at October 17, 2017 01:52 PM (SsblQ)

87 78
What? SE Cupp is a pony girl?

as long as she keeps the glasses on

Posted by: Rick in SK at October 17, 2017 01:53 PM (FZYNt)

88 31 >>>This makes me extraordinarily sad. I always thought Ace and Allah were buddies -- like, real life buddies away from this nonsense.

eh, if you meet someone a couple of times and exchange some emails, are you really "buddies"?

There is a type of relationship which you'd say is "friendly" yet is not friendship. Most relationships are like this -- thin, superficial, untested.

Doesn't mean they're not relationships. It just means they're paper thin, like most relationships must be.

At any rate, at some point, you can just have fucking enough of someone.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 01:47 PM (8rNrN)

What if you go to see Brokeback Mountain with them?

Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2017 01:53 PM (cAnNx)

89 David Brock -- Intelligent, conservative, and he won't embarrass you by flaunting his knowledge of obscure Italian deli meats.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 17, 2017 01:53 PM (Mouru)

90
Mary Katherine Ham is no longer one of us, I don't think.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 01:53 PM (ANIVY)

91 That was scathing, like a scrub down with lye soaked steel wool.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Horde Special! Two Free Skepticism When the Outrage Outlet Caters Your Fall Freakout at October 17, 2017 01:53 PM (hLRSq)

92 That list is such a yolk.

Posted by: Egg McMuffin (with a dick in his mouth) at October 17, 2017 01:53 PM (ul9CR)

93 My subtlety is lost on you savages.
No way - that was totally funny. I can already feel the AP love. How far has he fallen since the days of "Allah's in the house." A pox on his house.

Posted by: SkinnerVic at October 17, 2017 01:53 PM (nbwH3)

94 In related news, Kanye West has released his list of Top 25 country bands.

Posted by: josephistan at October 17, 2017 01:53 PM (7HtZB)

95 >>>58 Ace, I think you give this list too much credit for being broad spectrum republicans. I would call them Dems or soft lefties.

I'm saying that they are dems. It's allah arguing they're "broadly right."

>>>68 I remember when we were once chastised for ripping on little pussyboy allahpundit.

well I was trying to avoid blog drama. I get complaints from some thin-skinned people over what *commenters* say about them.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 01:53 PM (8rNrN)

96 BetaPundit gon' Beta

Posted by: deepelemblues at October 17, 2017 01:54 PM (osJSG)

97 Erica Eriks MacErick, Poppin Fresh, and the NRO Love Boat will be making the second part of Salon's list. they just got the most-bitten batch of pillows on this part.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 17, 2017 01:54 PM (5I0ZI)

98 I'd still bang S.E. Cupp given the chance though.

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 17, 2017 01:54 PM (NWiLs)

99 Proud to say, I have never read or seen any of the aforementioned assmunches. That's what happens when you live in Jesusland.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 17, 2017 01:54 PM (KP5rU)

100 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 01:44 PM (39g3+)

Podhoretz was never good imo. His father was though . Again imo.

Posted by: Star Chamber at October 17, 2017 01:54 PM (Q0dwZ)

101 Mary Katherine Ham is no longer one of us, I don't think.

She's been on fire railing against Obamacare, IIRC.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at October 17, 2017 01:54 PM (u0s1P)

102 We can never get enough Ace. He should be on 24 / 7.

Posted by: freaked at October 17, 2017 01:54 PM (72I/n)

103
David Brock -- Intelligent, conservative, and he won't embarrass you by flaunting his knowledge of obscure Italian deli meats.

You're confusing the very bitter homosexual David Brock with the "life long bachelor" David Brooks.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 01:54 PM (ANIVY)

104 Also, Ms Cupp is a fibber. They're nice, but they're not E's.

Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at October 17, 2017 01:54 PM (IpZ3i)

105 86 A good pool boy is hard to find.
Posted by: G at October 17, 2017 01:52 PM (SsblQ)

And a hard pool boy is good to find

Posted by: Shep! at October 17, 2017 01:54 PM (7HtZB)

106 >>My subtlety is lost on you savages. Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 01:49 PM (8rNrN)

Zod will teach your subtlety a trick. A ballgagged SE Cupp will be involved.

Posted by: Zod at October 17, 2017 01:54 PM (Bdeb0)

107 So we can expect a low energy revanchist Jeb restoration movement any day now?

Posted by: Pudding Head at October 17, 2017 01:54 PM (YV+SU)

108 Never go "Full Charles."

Posted by: Max Power at October 17, 2017 01:55 PM (QCc6B)

109 46 SE Cupp has a couple of things going for her at least....

that's why I said she was a two trick pony.

My subtlety is lost on you savages.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 01:49 PM (8rNrN)

True enough. I was just wondering what her 2 tricks were. But now I get it!

Posted by: LASue at October 17, 2017 01:55 PM (hZ+us)

110 >>A good pool boy is hard to find.

A hard pool boy is good to find.

Posted by: Shep Smith at October 17, 2017 01:55 PM (8O3HH)

111 >>>What if you go to see Brokeback Mountain with them?

it was only a test of my heterosexuality. I passed. Well, I got a 71. But that's a pass.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 01:55 PM (8rNrN)

112 Cupp has a lantern jaw.

Good thing nobody but weirdos would be looking at her jaw.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 17, 2017 01:55 PM (ul9CR)

113 "Wait, what? I must've missed that."

Go to the site - there used to be a lot of links to other conservative sites, it was a great list of who's who in the conservative blogroll, and AceofSpades HQ was just about at the top.

All gone, all erased.

Just looked over there - top linked story was from CNN, then one from the NYT, then CNET, then The Hill, then Redstate (reliable Never Trumpers)

Search that entire site, try to find even a single link to any of the blogs or bloggers who used to support them. All gone, all erased.

They've chosen their side.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2017 01:55 PM (k1TUh)

114 "(Which follows logically from the definition of conservatism in the age of Trump, "Whatever makes liberals cry.")"

You know, I thought about that a bit - and I'm cool with it.

I can't think of a single initiative that would make liberals cry that I would not be supportive of.

Posted by: West at October 17, 2017 01:55 PM (1Rgee)

115 Some of these people are my friends, some are my lovers.

Posted by: David French at October 17, 2017 01:55 PM (DrC22)

116 *scoots away from buzzion's ghost*

At any rate, at some point, you can just have fucking enough of someone.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 01:47 PM (8rNrN)

This is about the Horde isn't it?

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 17, 2017 01:55 PM (mf5HN)

117 Posted by: josephistan at October 17, 2017 01:53

Perfect analogy.

Posted by: Star Chamber at October 17, 2017 01:55 PM (Q0dwZ)

118 11 Wake me up if S.E. Cupps decides to get into porn
Posted by: Rick in SK at October 17, 2017 01:44 PM (FZYNt)

If she and Kat Timpf did busty lesbian pron together....

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 17, 2017 01:55 PM (ujg0T)

119 112 Cupp has a lantern jaw.

Good thing nobody but weirdos would be looking at her jaw.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 17, 2017 01:55 PM (ul9CR)

Good for strong suction.

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 17, 2017 01:55 PM (NWiLs)

120 At any rate, at some point, you can just have fucking enough of someone.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 01:47 PM (8rNrN)

Or vice-versa

Posted by: Reggie Love at October 17, 2017 01:56 PM (vWMNq)

121 Of course Salon leaves out the Jew.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at October 17, 2017 01:56 PM (DrC22)

122 >>>104 Also, Ms Cupp is a fibber. They're nice, but they're not E's.

I could see them being E's. Aren't Es just double d's in an alternate system of nomenclature?

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 01:56 PM (8rNrN)

123 SE Cupp has a couple of things going for her at least....

that's why I said she was a two trick pony.

My subtlety is lost on you savages.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 01:49 PM (8rNrN)

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE SHE HAS TWO BOOBIES!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at October 17, 2017 01:56 PM (7HtZB)

124 90
Mary Katherine Ham is no longer one of us, I don't think.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 01:53 PM (ANIVY)

And yet I would happily be one with her.

Posted by: joncelli, going phalangist at October 17, 2017 01:56 PM (RD7QR)

125 Never let Noah Rothman forget that his first real gig was an intern for Opie and Anthony.

Rock solid conservative bonafides, indeed.

Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at October 17, 2017 01:56 PM (IpZ3i)

126 What, initially, were Jennifer Rubin's bona fides? I know I could bing it but I won't.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 17, 2017 01:56 PM (U+nHb)

127 >>98 I'd still bang S.E. Cupp given the chance though. Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 17, 2017 01:54 PM (NWiLs)

You will take a number. Also, you will provide the hugs and quiet reassurances Ms. Cupp requires after Zod's mentoring session.

Posted by: Zod at October 17, 2017 01:56 PM (Bdeb0)

128 51 Who are these people?
Posted by: Victor Davis Hanson at October 17, 2017 01:49 PM (DrC22)

In fairness, VDH never swallowed the globalist guff. Probably because, being in the San Joaquin Valley, he *couldn't* ignore everything around him.

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 17, 2017 01:56 PM (ujg0T)

129 Whatever happened to Krauthammer?
Used to write stuff.

Posted by: Glenn John at October 17, 2017 01:56 PM (LilNs)

130 >>>This is about the Horde isn't it?

It's about *you.* I'm glad you brought it up. It was getting uncomfortable.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 01:57 PM (8rNrN)

131 >>If she and Kat Timpf did busty lesbian pron
>> together....

That would be one busty and one IBTC. Which does exist.

Posted by: Shep Smith at October 17, 2017 01:57 PM (8O3HH)

132 They've chosen their side.

Oh, ok. I never paid attention to HotAir's links. I barely pay attention to it now.

I tried investigating some of the links and Ace's blogroll, and it was a wee bit outdated.

That was probably ten years ago. Maybe five.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at October 17, 2017 01:57 PM (u0s1P)

133 well I was trying to avoid blog drama. I get complaints from some thin-skinned people over what *commenters* say about them.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 01:53 PM (8rNrN)

Well yeah it wasn't some big thing. It was basically quit sockpuppeting him and don't pick on him so much.

Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2017 01:57 PM (cAnNx)

134 Why would I care what Allahpundit thinks? If I want to know what a shut in cat lover thinks there's a crazy old lady in the neighborhood I can consult on national affairs.

He, much like Howe, aren't anti-Trump. They are anti-everyone. They trashed Romney non-stop during his election run. They just like being against everything and feeling superior.

Fuck all of them with a rusty spork.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2017 01:57 PM (/tuJf)

135 "Let the 35 percent of the country who believe Trump is a suitable president, or who hate Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama so much that they would elect Mussolini to the White House, have their party."

So, Trump = Mussolini? My, what a brave departure from the standard, "Trump = Hitler."

Also, I chortled at "notedconservative.jpg".

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at October 17, 2017 01:57 PM (5sQ8t)

136 112 Cupp has a lantern jaw.

and the top of her head is flat too.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 17, 2017 01:57 PM (mcI77)

137 Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 01:49 PM (8rNrN)

I got it ace but only because they aren't subtle.

Posted by: Time right before Mad Max at October 17, 2017 01:57 PM (Q0dwZ)

138 When ever I see Kristol on TeeVee all I think is 'desperately needy'.

Posted by: Pudding Head at October 17, 2017 01:57 PM (YV+SU)

139 Why is it that every time I see SE Cupp's name somewhere my train of thought goes to the trainwreck that "2 girls 1 cup" is? As Ace pointed out, she's a two trick (girls) pony

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 17, 2017 01:58 PM (jxbfJ)

140
I get complaints from some thin-skinned people over what *commenters* say about them.

Oh we know.
Allah came here once or twice and gave us shit. When that didn't work, he whined (or whinged) to you, Ace.

That cocksucker and liar Rick Wilson complained to you, or he complained to gabe malor.

Malor then admonished Us, your loyal horde, and reminded us that cocksucker rick wilson was a "friend of the blog" and should be treated accordingly.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 01:58 PM (ANIVY)

141 I get the knowledge organization but I though epistemologies were only done by obstetricians.
@cicero

Judging from the amount of lady-liking-ladies in the field, we cover that too...

Posted by: Cranky Librarian at October 17, 2017 01:58 PM (UqvOH)

142 126 What, initially, were Jennifer Rubin's bona fides? I know I could bing it but I won't.
Posted by: Seems Legit at October 17, 2017 01:56 PM (U+nHb)

==========

Invitations to cocktail parties?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2017 01:58 PM (0eoFj)

143 I'd not read any of them...if I was already not reading any of them.

Posted by: Tami at October 17, 2017 01:58 PM (Enq6K)

144 I believe that DD and E are analogous among most makes of bra, yeah. Or it might be DDD and E.

There's also the Japanese system where she'd be like an F cup I think.

Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at October 17, 2017 01:58 PM (IpZ3i)

145 Kat Timpf busty -never thought I'd see that in a sentence.

Posted by: Glenn John at October 17, 2017 01:58 PM (LilNs)

146 Fuck all of them with a rusty spork.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2017 01:57 PM (/tuJf)

Bluebell can hook that up.

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 17, 2017 01:58 PM (NWiLs)

147 >>>What, initially, were Jennifer Rubin's bona fides? I know I could bing it but I won't.

i can't swear to this but i think she was a pro-war, pro-Israel Hollywood entertainment lawyer. So she had a couple of conservative-ish positions but the WaPo knew she would be "one of the reasonable ones," that is, not actually a conservative but a pro-war liberal.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 01:58 PM (8rNrN)

148 Haven't read any Hot Air since they went full-retard.

And AllahPundit is the most conservative they have?

Salon is still Salon.

Posted by: SpecialEd at October 17, 2017 01:58 PM (FJWFV)

149 It's about *you.* I'm glad you brought it up. It was getting uncomfortable.
Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 01:57 PM (8rNrN)

Hey, I know I'm an acquired taste. You know, like for arsenic.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 17, 2017 01:58 PM (mf5HN)

150 >>126 What, initially, were Jennifer Rubin's bona fides? I know I could bing it but I won't.
Posted by: Seems Legit at October 17, 2017 01:56 PM (U+nHb)

Her mug. The leering-rictus-of-death portrait that accompanies her online offerings was initially an inside joke at the WaPo. Now they can't get rid of her.

Posted by: Zod at October 17, 2017 01:58 PM (Bdeb0)

151 Salon: Your "go to" source for approved Conservative Commentary!
Everybody knows THAT!!!

Posted by: tu3031 at October 17, 2017 01:58 PM (O5Q3r)

152 Well done, Ace.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 17, 2017 01:58 PM (tbOMB)

153 Kurt Schlichter's takedown of the "Domesticated Conservatives" listed by Salon is great. It's over on Townhall: http://tinyurl.com/y7fe7p65.

I agree with him that some on the list are less objectionable than others, though I would never give Rick Wilson the time of day, and Ben Howe officially lost me when he said the woman who got egged at that Trump rally pretty much had it coming.

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at October 17, 2017 01:58 PM (4df7R)

154
Da Cupps, Da Cupps, dey a pointin southeast!

Posted by: Herve Villachaize at October 17, 2017 01:58 PM (r+sAi)

155 Whatever happened to Krauthammer?
Used to write stuff.

Posted by: Glenn John at October 17, 2017 01:56 PM (LilNs)

----------------------------------------------
He wrote a popular book "Things that Matter" and then everyone quit reading him.

Posted by: G at October 17, 2017 01:59 PM (SsblQ)

156 Fox puts Timpf in those push-up bras that make a lot out of a little. Or the most out of a little, anyway.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 17, 2017 01:59 PM (ul9CR)

157 >> Whatever happened to Krauthammer?

On Special Report, they said he was scheduled for some operation, but there were complications. They say he's improving, but not read to come back.

No details, but complications to some surgery, whatever it is.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 17, 2017 01:59 PM (8O3HH)

158 When you throw a rock into a pack of dogs, the one the yelps is the one that you hit.

Someone is sure yelping and whining a lot . . . .

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 17, 2017 01:59 PM (sUh6s)

159 The funny thing about these NeverTrump "conservatives" is we never really hear policy specifics about why it would advance "conservative" interests to see Trump defeated or why he's so awful.

I will be the first to admit Trump does a lot of things I wish he wouldn't, but Trump isn't the first thin skinned, egotistical blowhard to get involved in politics.

Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2017 01:59 PM (lKmt3)

160 ISIS is losing bigly. what a disastrous first year of the Trump presidency. for Obama.

Posted by: x at October 17, 2017 01:59 PM (nFwvY)

161
126 What, initially, were Jennifer Rubin's bona fides? I know I could bing it but I won't.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 17, 2017 01:56 PM (U+nHb)

I'm guessing she had a "business meeting" with Harvey Weinstein.

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at October 17, 2017 01:59 PM (4df7R)

162 >>>What if you go to see Brokeback Mountain with them?

Do not wack off on the guy sitting in front of you.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 17, 2017 01:59 PM (iL1/8)

163 122: Ace, double d's, e's, whatever it takes. They can always make more silicone. Just remember, they're not fake if you can feel them.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 17, 2017 01:59 PM (KP5rU)

164 >>>Malor then admonished Us, your loyal horde, and reminded us that cocksucker rick wilson was a "friend of the blog" and should be treated accordingly.

I believe I did first, and that Gabe was just repeating a request I'd made.

Again, this was back when I was trying to avoid blog drama, which I thought was soooo 2006.

Also at that time I wasn't even aware Rick Wilson was such a liberal idiot. Sometimes you guys know a lot more about these people than I do. I don't read many conservative writers, to be honest.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 01:59 PM (8rNrN)

165 11
Wake me up if S.E. Cupps decides to get into porn

Posted by: Rick in SK at October 17, 2017 01:44 PM (FZYNt)

--
Huh. Possible moneymaking adult site idea there. Cross referenced lookalike similarities between big names and adult film/photo stars.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 17, 2017 02:00 PM (rjrh3)

166 31 >>>This makes me extraordinarily sad. I always thought Ace and Allah were buddies -- like, real life buddies away from this nonsense.

eh, if you meet someone a couple of times and exchange some emails, are you really "buddies"?
There is a type of relationship which you'd say is "friendly" yet is not friendship. Most relationships are like this -- thin, superficial, untested.
Doesn't mean they're not relationships. It just means they're paper thin, like most relationships must be.

At any rate, at some point, you can just have fucking enough of someone.
Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 01:47 PM (8rNrN)"

Heh. That is exactly how I feel about Harrison Ford.

Posted by: West at October 17, 2017 02:00 PM (1Rgee)

167 I'd still bang S.E. Cupp given the chance though.
Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 17, 2017 01:54 PM (NWiLs)
-----

#MeToo

Posted by: Darth Randall at October 17, 2017 02:00 PM (6n332)

168 135 "Let the 35 percent of the country who believe Trump is a suitable president, or who hate Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama so much that they would elect Mussolini to the White House, have their party."

So, Trump = Mussolini? My, what a brave departure from the standard, "Trump = Hitler."

Also, I chortled at "notedconservative.jpg".
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at October 17, 2017 01:57 PM (5sQ8t)

=============

I remember Hitler decreasing the power of the German federal government by cutting its regulations by a third in 9 months and decreasing his own power within the power structure of the government.

They're pretty much the same person.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2017 02:00 PM (0eoFj)

169 It does grate on me when they are described as "a conservative commenter/writer." It's a spit take moment every time.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 17, 2017 02:00 PM (U+nHb)

170 I remember Tom Nichols being the biggest douche bag on Twitter back when I still bothered to pay attention.

Posted by: mark1971 at October 17, 2017 02:00 PM (xPl2J)

171 Would any of these 25 nominated Gorsuch?

Posted by: Roy at October 17, 2017 02:00 PM (7n4KQ)

172 Kat Timpf has the body of a 13yo boy

Posted by: Rick in SK at October 17, 2017 02:01 PM (FZYNt)

173 Ben Howe officially lost me when he said the woman who got egged at that Trump rally pretty much had it coming.

oh hell no. fuck that guy in particular.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 17, 2017 02:01 PM (5I0ZI)

174 148 Ace links to John Sexton sometimes (from Hot Air) -he has got to be the most (only?) conservative there.

Posted by: Glenn John at October 17, 2017 02:01 PM (LilNs)

175 Browsing through the names earlier, I coulda' sworn some were progs just based on what I've heard from them or read.

Conservatives.... really?

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at October 17, 2017 02:01 PM (jAZR9)

176 AKA 25 Republicans who didn't sell their soul (and dignity) in exchange for easy clicks from the Cult of Trump.

But do go on with telling your readers that revoking NBC's non-existent broadcast license would be cool because Dear Leader suggested it.

Death to the blashpemers! Burn the heretics!

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 17, 2017 02:01 PM (nxsfe)

177 >>eh, if you meet someone a couple of times and exchange some emails, are you really "buddies"?
There is a type of relationship which you'd say is "friendly" yet is not friendship. Most relationships are like this -- thin, superficial, untested.
Doesn't mean they're not relationships. It just means they're paper thin, like most relationships must be.

You don't really become friends until you exchange shelf hanging tips.

Right buddy? Right??

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2017 02:01 PM (/tuJf)

178 >>>And AllahPundit is the most conservative they have?

no, not at all. I don't think John Sexton likes Trump but he posts things besides AllahPundit-style Trump Twitter Drama crap.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:01 PM (8rNrN)

179 I gave u Hotair a long time ago. Ace and allah were always #1 and #2 reads. But that other place got progressively more obnoxious. Well, we'll always have the photoshops. Hard to believe that was like 10 years ago

Posted by: brak at October 17, 2017 02:01 PM (WjCgM)

180 I would like to thank Salon for basically making the list of all conservatives I will never take seriously.

Posted by: Gman at October 17, 2017 02:02 PM (Bnm2K)

181 No Jonah Goldberg? No Lowry? No George Will?

Huh. Had to check to see if Will even had an account. Mirabile dictu, he does.

Posted by: Zod at October 17, 2017 02:02 PM (Bdeb0)

182 Sykes, who most of us never heard of before, is a staunch Republican, or was, anyway. But now he's a Voice of Reason (a.k.a. Leftist who pretends to be a centrist or a former Republican) who can be seen on Fake News.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 01:52 PM (ANIVY)

His ex-wife, Diane Sykes, is an excellent judge and is on Trump's list of potential SCOTUS picks. It would be hilarious if he named Charlie's ex wife to the Court.

She would be on SCOTUS; he would be sitting in Wisconsin bitching and moaning (and he doesn't even have his radio show anymore.)

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 17, 2017 02:02 PM (ZM2xo)

183 I need to figure out how to incorporate "lantern jew" into my name.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 17, 2017 02:02 PM (rjrh3)

184 161
126 What, initially, were Jennifer Rubin's bona fides? I know I could bing it but I won't.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 17, 2017 01:56 PM (U+nHb)

I'm guessing she had a "business meeting" with Harvey Weinstein.
Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at October 17, 2017 01:59 PM (4df7R)

Speechwriter for Ronald Reagan. But Reagan knew what he wanted to say, and just let other people write it down for him.

Posted by: West at October 17, 2017 02:02 PM (1Rgee)

185 >>>You don't really become friends until you exchange shelf hanging tips.

Right buddy? Right??

...

True, I think. Incidentally, Phase 2 went so well that I've added a Phase 3.

It's just going to be fucking shelves all around the room.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:02 PM (8rNrN)

186 You don't really become friends until you exchange shelf hanging tips.

Right buddy? Right??
Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2017 02:01 PM (/tuJf)

Just as long as you aren't touching tips. Cause that's ghey.

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 17, 2017 02:02 PM (NWiLs)

187 Rick Wilson looks like a child molester.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 17, 2017 02:02 PM (mcI77)

188 Trump has done wonders exposing people we thought were on " our side" One of the greatest things he has done.

Posted by: steevy at October 17, 2017 02:02 PM (rmVvL)

189 Exit question: Is there an endgame for Nevertrumpers? If Trump is re-elected, what do they *do*?
=========
Take over the Springfield Middle School Model U.N. and show the world how--if only they were in charge--they'd solve all the problems?

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 17, 2017 02:02 PM (sUh6s)

190 157 publius -thanks for info.

Posted by: Glenn John at October 17, 2017 02:02 PM (LilNs)

191 Excellent!

Posted by: runner at October 17, 2017 02:02 PM (QC/4S)

192 that's why I bring a potted magnolia with me on Hollywood premieres.

Posted by: your lovable uncle Harvey at October 17, 2017 02:02 PM (5I0ZI)

193 157 >> Whatever happened to Krauthammer?

On Special Report, they said he was scheduled for some operation, but there were complications. They say he's improving, but not read to come back.

No details, but complications to some surgery, whatever it is.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 17, 2017 01:59 PM (8O3HH)

Well I hope he gets better.

And then retires.

Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2017 02:03 PM (cAnNx)

194 183 I need to figure out how to incorporate "lantern jew" into my name.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 17, 2017 02:02 PM (rjrh3)

He's he guy carrying the lit menorah.

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 17, 2017 02:03 PM (NWiLs)

195 He, much like Howe, aren't anti-Trump. They are anti-everyone. They trashed Romney non-stop during his election run. They just like being against everything and feeling superior.

Fuck all of them with a rusty spork.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2017 01:57 PM (/tuJf)

Bingo. AllahPundit loved trolling his readers with Mitt's Gonna Run, thought it was hilarious. And then Trump got in and his readers trolled him right back with Trump, Trump, Trump! The little twerp really went into a snit-fit over that. He could dish it out, but not take it.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Horde Special! Two Free Skepticism When the Outrage Outlet Caters Your Fall Freakout at October 17, 2017 02:03 PM (hLRSq)

196 I will soon have so many shelves that weight won't be a problem, because I have more shelf space than physical possessions.

Which is good, because I need a lot of space just to throw shit on randomly.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:03 PM (8rNrN)

197 Whee, the NeverTrump troll is here.

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 17, 2017 02:03 PM (NWiLs)

198 159 The funny thing about these NeverTrump "conservatives" is we never really hear policy specifics about why it would advance "conservative" interests to see Trump defeated or why he's so awful.

I will be the first to admit Trump does a lot of things I wish he wouldn't, but Trump isn't the first thin skinned, egotistical blowhard to get involved in politics.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2017 01:59 PM (lKmt3)

=============

David French is probably the worst of them.

He's SO sanctimonious about Trump's moral failings while completely discounting anything Trump does in terms of policy he might agree with.

I know why he's not on this list though, WAY too socially conservative.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2017 02:03 PM (0eoFj)

199 I never understood the criticism of nationalism. Racism? No. White nationalism and black nationalism, sure.

But I would identify as an American nationalist. White, Black, Native, gay, straight, liberal, conservative, homegrown or foreign-born, if you are an American citizen, you come first. That's it.

Any country that wishes to survive should believe in this.

Posted by: CPT11A at October 17, 2017 02:03 PM (gY9Ct)

200 When fucking shelves be careful of splinters.

Posted by: steevy at October 17, 2017 02:03 PM (rmVvL)

201 185
It's just going to be fucking shelves all around the room.

Didn't Kramer do that?

Posted by: Under Fire at October 17, 2017 02:03 PM (mcI77)

202 >>>lantern jew

The under appreciated Yarok Lantern.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 17, 2017 02:04 PM (iL1/8)

203 "That cocksucker and liar Rick Wilson complained to you, or he complained to gabe malor. "

Oh, I remember Malor - the guy who asks his dude loving dick for it's approval before he ventures his opinion on anything.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2017 02:04 PM (k1TUh)

204 lantern Jew

"swing by day and burn by night?" sounds like something Sefton might say

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 17, 2017 02:04 PM (5I0ZI)

205 "I need to figure out how to incorporate "lantern jew" into my name."

Sounds like a great name for an Israeli superhero.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Horde Special! Two Free Skepticism When the Outrage Outlet Caters Your Fall Freakout at October 17, 2017 02:04 PM (hLRSq)

206
Sometimes you guys know a lot more about these people than I do.

Bro, the AoS Horde is like a Five-Hundred-Headed Beast Full of Both Useful and Useless Knowledge.

No one can match our wits or general knowledge on literally everything. No one.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 02:04 PM (ANIVY)

207 He's SO sanctimonious about Trump's moral failings while completely discounting anything Trump does in terms of policy he might agree with
________________

Hollowpoint is David French?

Posted by: John Marston at October 17, 2017 02:04 PM (SkuXa)

208 171 Would any of these 25 nominated Gorsuch?
Posted by: Roy at October 17, 2017 02:00 PM (7n4KQ)

============

It might have hurt comity in the Senate, so no.

Gotta put Garland back in.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2017 02:04 PM (0eoFj)

209 183 I need to figure out how to incorporate "lantern jew" into my name.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 17, 2017 02:02 PM (rjrh3)

Wasn't he a DC super hero?

Posted by: josephistan at October 17, 2017 02:04 PM (7HtZB)

210 145 Kat Timpf busty -never thought I'd see that in a sentence.
Posted by: Glenn John at October 17, 2017 01:58 PM (LilNs)

She would need implants. Maybe just the facial and vulva shots with her.

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 17, 2017 02:04 PM (ujg0T)

211 Just found out Weinstein's first movie production was The Burning, the classic 1980 low-budget horror flick. It was filmed right near my hometown, in Tonawanda, NY. Weinstein was still a concert promoter in Buffalo trying to break into the movie biz at the time.

And of course he exposed himself to an intern on the film and asked for a massage. She's just come forward. Guy had the same MO even back then.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 17, 2017 02:05 PM (ul9CR)

212 Her mug. The leering-rictus-of-death portrait that accompanies her online offerings was initially an inside joke at the WaPo. Now they can't get rid of her.

Posted by: Zod at October 17, 2017 01:58 PM (Bdeb0)

They actually fired her a few years ago by just not paying her. They hoped she would figure it out. She still shows up though.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 17, 2017 02:05 PM (4ErVI)

213 174 148 Ace links to John Sexton sometimes (from Hot Air) -he has got to be the most (only?) conservative there.
Posted by: Glenn John at October 17, 2017 02:01 PM (LilNs)

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I like Jazz Shaw. He's not bad.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2017 02:05 PM (0eoFj)

214 A good pool boy is hard to find.
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A hard pool boy is good to find.

Posted by: Shep! at October 17, 2017 02:05 PM (vg8iE)

215 Cats like shelves.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 17, 2017 02:05 PM (U+nHb)

216 209 183 I need to figure out how to incorporate "lantern jew" into my name.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 17, 2017 02:02 PM (rjrh3)

Wasn't he a DC super hero?
Posted by: josephistan at October 17, 2017 02:04 PM (7HtZB)

In brightest day
In blackest night
No goyim shall escape my sight!

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 17, 2017 02:05 PM (NWiLs)

217 12 Chelsea Handler is noticeably absent from that list. WTF?

Every time I see that name, I think it says "Chelsea's Handler". I haven't seen a Huma or Needle-Guy following Chelsea like they do her Mom, but I'm sure she has someone help her get jobs and present a positive "human" side.

Posted by: Grimaldi at October 17, 2017 02:05 PM (6aUbL)

218
It would be hilarious if he named Charlie's ex wife to the Court.

It will never happen. Charlie Sykes is as unhinged and as dishonest as his pals mika, joe, and mike.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 02:05 PM (ANIVY)

219 I always like to wonder in an alternate universe, let's say someone like Scott Walker or Ted Cruz had been elected President. Would these same people still occupy this space of #principles ?

I honestly hate this intercine warfare among people I thought were allies. Most of them I say good riddance (like Erickson, Kristol) but having such a divided movement has consequences, I can't pretend it doesn't.

Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2017 02:06 PM (lKmt3)

220 185 >>>You don't really become friends until you exchange shelf hanging tips.

Right buddy? Right??

...

True, I think. Incidentally, Phase 2 went so well that I've added a Phase 3.

It's just going to be fucking shelves all around the room.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:02 PM (8rNrN)

Phase 3? That's when you finally get all the Infinity Shelves together in one place and your black friend finally gets his own shelves right?

Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2017 02:06 PM (cAnNx)

221 i love this post

i love all the words and the sentiments and the truisms

Posted by: happyfeet at October 17, 2017 02:06 PM (mLfQi)

222 Sounds like a great name for an Israeli superhero.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Horde Special! Two Free Skepticism When the Outrage Outlet Caters Your Fall Freakout at October 17, 2017 02:04 PM (hLRSq)

Lantern Jew! Slayer of Zero Hedge Commenters!

*triumphant trumpet sounds*

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 17, 2017 02:06 PM (mf5HN)

223 AKA 25 Republicans who didn't sell their soul (and dignity) in exchange for easy clicks from the Cult of Trump.

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I sort of thought it was the opposite. Hotair/Ed/Allah definitely changed when Salem started writing their checks and greasing the skids for their book deals.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 17, 2017 02:06 PM (rjrh3)

224
I like Jazz Shaw. He's not bad.

And you like lots of terrible movies.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 02:06 PM (ANIVY)

225 Krauthammer shot all of his credibility with his Antifa sympathizing.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2017 02:07 PM (k1TUh)

226 "SE Cupp, two-trick pony."
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I'll have you all know only ONE pony has paid me for sex!

The rest were free.

Posted by: S.E. Cupp at October 17, 2017 02:07 PM (70QTT)

227 Because everybody-fucking-knew.

And do you know how I am sure this is true?
Because I was there.
And I saw you.
And I talked about it with you.
You, the big producers; you, the big directors; you, the big agents; you, the big financiers.
And you, the big rival studio chiefs; you, the big actors; you, the big actresses; you, the big models.
You, the big journalists; you, the big screenwriters; you, the big rock stars; you, the big restaurateurs; you, the big politicians.

I saw you.
All of you.
God help me, I was there with you.

http://tinyurl.com/yd2ll7wf

That's part of a post by Scott Rosenberg, director of Beautiful Girls. Read the whole thing.

h/t Ed Driscoll who also has a video clip to explain the egg joke.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/278533/

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 17, 2017 02:07 PM (pvjTE)

228 >>>48 Ace links to John Sexton sometimes (from Hot Air) -he has got to be the most (only?) conservative there.

sexton's an actual friend. We hang out whenever we can.

Again, I don't think he likes Trump (I'm not really sure because we don't talk much politics) but he posts, you know, stuff that isn't just trolling a conservative audience so he can preen for his Twitter Fan Club.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:07 PM (8rNrN)

229 Losers one and all... Especially Allahpundit... He's really not that important... Sort of a Chuckles Johnson sort now...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 17, 2017 02:07 PM (O2RFr)

230 211 Just found out Weinstein's first movie production was The Burning, the classic 1980 low-budget horror flick. It was filmed right near my hometown, in Tonawanda, NY. Weinstein was still a concert promoter in Buffalo trying to break into the movie biz at the time.

And of course he exposed himself to an intern on the film and asked for a massage. She's just come forward. Guy had the same MO even back then.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 17, 2017 02:05 PM (ul9CR)

A classic of the slasher genre though. Movie has a young Holly Hunter and Jason Alexander in it too.

The raft slaughter was a holy grail of gory horror scenes. Finding an uncut version of it was extremely difficult until they finally put it out on an official dvd release (I think). Tom Savini did the effects.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 17, 2017 02:07 PM (4ErVI)

231 I have a lantern Jew. It's on my front porch, on a shelf. It replaced the lawn jockey.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 17, 2017 02:07 PM (KP5rU)

232 199 I never understood the criticism of nationalism. Racism? No. White nationalism and black nationalism, sure.

But I would identify as an American nationalist. White, Black, Native, gay, straight, liberal, conservative, homegrown or foreign-born, if you are an American citizen, you come first. That's it.

Any country that wishes to survive should believe in this.
Posted by: CPT11A at October 17, 2017 02:03 PM (gY9Ct)

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Trump said it best during his inaugural:

We all bleed red, white, and blue (or something along those lines, it's a rough paraphrase).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2017 02:07 PM (0eoFj)

233 147 >>>What, initially, were Jennifer Rubin's bona fides? I know I could bing it but I won't. "

She worked for Commentary Magazine before being hired by WaPo. And she was more conservative then, or perhaps she gave that impression because she mainly wrote about the Middle East there and not that much about domestic policies.

It absolutely floors me that a supporter of Israel can do a 180 on the Iran deal.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 17, 2017 02:07 PM (ZM2xo)

234 *triumphant trumpet sounds*

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 17, 2017 02:06 PM

*narrows eyes*

Posted by: Jericho at October 17, 2017 02:07 PM (p+Wdc)

235 Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 17, 2017 02:01 PM (nxsfe)

Please save us from ourselves. The winning is absolutely intolerable.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 17, 2017 02:07 PM (tbOMB)

236 There's a repetitious Shep! loose in the comments !!!

Posted by: RioBravo at October 17, 2017 02:07 PM (SsblQ)

237 180 I would like to thank Salon for basically making the list of all conservatives I will never take seriously.

Posted by: Gman at October 17, 2017 02:02 PM (Bnm2K)

Nice of them to put it all in one handy dandy list.

Posted by: Tami at October 17, 2017 02:07 PM (Enq6K)

238 Ace, if you didn't see it earlier, the self-tapping drywall anchors are great. I think "Toggler" is a name brand, but I'm sure there are others. They can hold a tremendous amount of weight, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 17, 2017 02:07 PM (rjrh3)

239 Notable gynecologist Andi Sullivan didn't make the list?

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 17, 2017 02:08 PM (sUh6s)

240 Hollowhead

Posted by: runner at October 17, 2017 02:08 PM (QC/4S)

241 239 Notable gynecologist Andi Sullivan didn't make the list?
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 17, 2017 02:08 PM (sUh6s)

Never has a gay man expressed so much interest in lady parts.

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 17, 2017 02:08 PM (NWiLs)

242 I'm disappointed that Andrew Sullivan isn't on this list. I remember telling some friends that I liked to read this blog because of a Gay Conservative (referencing Malor) and they said "Ooh, you read Andrew Sullivan?"

No. I don't read the opinions of an unmoored hysteric who got butt-hurt by 9-11 and had a crush on Bush for a little while. Whatever you think of his overall worldview and how it fit with this blog, Malor was a serious thinker and wrote well!

Posted by: Cranky Librarian at October 17, 2017 02:08 PM (UqvOH)

243 224
I like Jazz Shaw. He's not bad.

And you like lots of terrible movies.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 02:06 PM (ANIVY)

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And proudly too.

Just watched The Lobster. It was pretty hilarious.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2017 02:08 PM (0eoFj)

244
And there's more Hollyweirdo stuff coming out. Uncle Harvey broke a damn.

Jennifer Lawrence was put in a nekkid lineup with other girls at age 15, to show her she needed to lose some weight to become "perfectly f-able".

Reese Witherspoon says she was sexually assaulted at age 16.

And that cute red-headed actress from Dumb and Dumber had her own Uncle Harvey encounter. This time he pulled an LBJ and some toilet meeting or some crap before doing the massage and shower bit.

I hope this is a Sampson pulling down the corrupt temple moment indeed.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 17, 2017 02:08 PM (8O3HH)

245 >>>I like Jazz Shaw. He's not bad.

yeah he's pretty good.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:09 PM (8rNrN)

246 Allahpundit can't be too surprised to be on this list, he used to quote SE Cupp all the time. Drove me nuts, I thought I was the only one who noticed she was a leftist poser.

Posted by: son of sonobi at October 17, 2017 02:09 PM (Knl0a)

247 It's a really good gig for them. pretend you're conservative make the rounds on MSNBC and CNN. profit.

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 17, 2017 02:09 PM (3Qjsv)

248 From Michelle Malkin to Allahpundit...talk about a step down.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2017 02:09 PM (eSx+E)

249
Its Levels!

Posted by: Kramer at October 17, 2017 02:09 PM (r+sAi)

250 230 A classic of the slasher genre though. Movie has a young Holly Hunter and Jason Alexander in it too.

Yep, Jason Alexander's first role, I believe. The cast and crew are said to have partied very hard while in town. Stories still go around. Great flick, too bad it's Weinsteins but then again he went on to make a lot of good-and bad-flicks.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 17, 2017 02:09 PM (ul9CR)

251 (Which follows logically from the definition of conservatism in the age of Trump, "Whatever makes liberals cry.")
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Well, "lamentations of their women" is the third plank in our platform, so . . . .

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 17, 2017 02:09 PM (sUh6s)

252 "Let the 35 percent of the country who believe Trump is a suitable
president, or who hate Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama so much that
they would elect Mussolini to the White House, have their party."

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So, if 50% of the people are democrats and 35% go with Trump, what percent is left and why should we pay any attention to them.

Posted by: Javems at October 17, 2017 02:09 PM (yOqwj)

253 Now THAT'S the Ace I know and love.

Good on you, my man......

Posted by: FITP at October 17, 2017 02:10 PM (QK1G1)

254 "No Jonah Goldberg? No Lowry? No George Will?"

Rich Lowry it seems is trying to be fair to Trump. Criticize for some things, credit for others. Unacceptable to Salon.

Posted by: Benji Carver at October 17, 2017 02:10 PM (OD2ni)

255 >>>Ace, if you didn't see it earlier, the self-tapping drywall anchors are great. I think "Toggler" is a name brand, but I'm sure there are others. They can hold a tremendous amount of weight, too.

yeah I had those. Phase 3 has to wait until the next batch comes (I don't have enough to complete Phase 3).

Alas the ones I just ordered are rated a little lower as far as weight than the ones I had, but these will be smaller shelves for lighter items.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:10 PM (8rNrN)

256 It's just going to be fucking shelves all around the room.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:02 PM (8rNrN)

Like an Endorian forest village?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 17, 2017 02:10 PM (tbOMB)

257 Just watched The Lobster. It was pretty hilarious.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at

What was it about??

Posted by: runner at October 17, 2017 02:10 PM (QC/4S)

258 I have to give Ghost of Kari credit on this because I increasingly think he is right. A large percentage of the people who object to Trump do so for aesthetic reasons, he just doesn't act Presidential enough for them.

I gotta admit, he makes me cringe at time and he does pick some fights I wish he would leave alone but it's also pretty hard to overlook the simple fact that what he is doing is largely working.

The stock market is at all time highs and has hit more records this year than any previous year. And we are still in October. ISIS is being destroyed. We have an entirely new and better relationship with Sunni leaders and our relationship with Israel has never been stronger. Our energy resources are finally being used for economic benefit and causing Putin to pucker wildly. China appears to finally be getting the message on North Korea and Iran is being dealt with as the terrorist supporting thugs they are. He is cutting regulations so fast it's hard to keep up. And Obamacare has been dealt a death blow. There is no going back now.

Anyone who can't overlook their previous objections to Trump and get over their preconceived notions of how a President should act to recognize that Trump is doing exactly what a conservative president should do is either totally dishonest or to stupid to be taken seriously.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2017 02:10 PM (/tuJf)

259 Whatever you think of his overall worldview and how it fit with this blog, Malor was a serious thinker and wrote well!

Posted by: Cranky Librarian at October 17, 2017 02:08 PM (UqvOH)

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Served up with fabulous arrogance.

Posted by: RioBravo at October 17, 2017 02:10 PM (SsblQ)

260
It absolutely floors me that a supporter of Israel can do a 180 on the Iran deal.
***
It doesn't pay well to support Israel, or American conservatives for that matter.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2017 02:10 PM (eSx+E)

261 Just watched The Lobster. It was pretty hilarious.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2017 02:08 PM (0eoFj)

The Lobster? That's Lantern Jew's arch-nemesis!

Posted by: josephistan at October 17, 2017 02:10 PM (7HtZB)

262 Funny: Trump tweets his own impeachment trial.

http://tinyurl.com/y9jv929w

Posted by: Off the reservation at October 17, 2017 02:11 PM (vWMNq)

263 245 >>>I like Jazz Shaw. He's not bad.

yeah he's pretty good.
Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:09 PM (8rNrN)

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Out of the top 3 bloggers at Hot Air (Jazz, Sexton, and Allah), two are pretty good. It's why I keep the site active in my RSS feed.

And then that Taylor Millard (whatever) shows up and my finger twitches.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2017 02:11 PM (0eoFj)

264 Since we've gone O/T and onto shelving, this is cool, with an added bit of hilarity at the end regarding Moochelle.

Chris Rock defending Trump on Graham Norton's show:

http://tinyurl.com/y7dpsma6

(h/t Newsbusters)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 17, 2017 02:11 PM (PY9jH)

265 I remember when that psychopath Beck was all giddy when he announced Cupp will start writing for the Blaze. I think she lasted about two weeks there.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 17, 2017 02:11 PM (mcI77)

266
*?*

Joe Scarborough isn't on the list?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 17, 2017 02:11 PM (w1zJX)

267 Jazz is OK. Compared to the leftist cunts running HA these days he is a right wing lunatic. Which is funny since once upon a time he used to be seen as a centrist. My how times change.

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 17, 2017 02:11 PM (3Qjsv)

268 There's also the Japanese system where she'd be like an F cup I think.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 02:12 PM (39g3+)

269 I'm guessing she had a "business meeting" with Harvey Weinstein.
Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at October 17, 2017 01:59 PM (4df7R)

Clearly, you have never seen or heard Rubin. I would say she's made for radio except - good God her voice will make your ears bleed.

I'm not saying everyone on TV needs to be a raving beauty, but I've never seen or heard anybody who appears on it fairly regularly to be so unsuited to the medium.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 17, 2017 02:12 PM (ZM2xo)

270 If anyone wants a good laugh, check out ABC's election night coverage. Tim Miller was on early in the night before things started turning Trump's way smugly lecturing that he hoped the GOP would be "taught a lesson" by Trump's loss.

Posted by: Benji Carver at October 17, 2017 02:12 PM (OD2ni)

271 >>>It absolutely floors me that a supporter of Israel can do a 180 on the Iran deal.

It's the Cult of NeverTrump -- whatever Trump says, you MUST take the contrary position.

Like Argument Clinic, but staffed by idiots.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:12 PM (8rNrN)

272 162
>>>What if you go to see Brokeback Mountain with them?

Do not wack off on the guy sitting in front of you.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 17, 2017 01:59 PM (iL1/

Oh, NOW you tell me.

Posted by: Pee Wee Herman at October 17, 2017 02:12 PM (jxbfJ)

273 257 Just watched The Lobster. It was pretty hilarious.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at

What was it about??
Posted by: runner at October 17, 2017 02:10 PM (QC/4S)

==============

Very deadpan and bleak humor about a dystopia where you must have a mate and if you don't, you get turned into an animal.

Colin Farrell and Rachel Weisz.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2017 02:12 PM (0eoFj)

274 "but having such a divided movement has consequences, I can't pretend it doesn't."

It's always been a divided movement - a lot of these names were only "conservative" (much like McCain) because there were in favor of War Now, War Forever!

but they also needed and always supported a vastly more powerful and even wealthier Federal Government to fund their War Now, War Forever! plans, and did not give a shit about the real concerns about government that is the true heart of the Conservative movement.

So now they've just decided to identify themselves. But the people who have ALWAYS been in favor of a Bigger, Badder, Richer Federal level have NEVER been our friends, even though they infiltrated and for a while took over management of the Republican party.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2017 02:12 PM (k1TUh)

275
Posted by: Hollowpoint

You always were the *worst kind of Republican*.

You're a Delta Male, always have been.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 02:12 PM (ANIVY)

276 *?*

Joe Scarborough isn't on the list?

That's a different list.

Posted by: Roy at October 17, 2017 02:12 PM (7n4KQ)

277 Again, I don't think he likes Trump (I'm not really sure because we don't talk much politics) but he posts, you know, stuff that isn't just trolling a conservative audience so he can preen for his Twitter Fan Club.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:07 PM (8rNrN)

There's a difference in kind between not liking Trump and being NeverTrump. The first is just, hey, I don't like Trump but those in that camp seem able to be at least reasonably objective about the good and bad that Trump is doing.

The second are sniveling hysterics who truly would write articles about how terrible it is that Trump put those oncologists out of business should Trump announce a cure for cancer.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 17, 2017 02:12 PM (mf5HN)

278 "the disastrous 1st year of the Trump Administration."

Disastrous for Democrats?

Posted by: Rick C at October 17, 2017 02:12 PM (ECH2/)

279 It's just going to be fucking shelves all around the room.
Posted by: ace
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Transparently angling for the lead Book Thread picture.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 17, 2017 02:13 PM (w1zJX)

280 Its occurred to me the #nevertrumpers argument about the current state of our country, is to deflect and not argue at all.

They are a collection of unusually dense, seemingly delusional, trite yarn spinning oafs, who circle jerk each other into a frenzy.

It doesn't concern them in the least they are fraternizing, even inviting a comparison with liberals whom they swore, before Trump, were our natural enemies because their philosophy was an anathema to any "true" conservative.

Now they're sucking ever dick they can get their filthy mouths on.

It's funny and sad at the same time. They still do not understand why we have Trump and are therefore a big part of the reason he will get reflected.

Posted by: Marcus T, Doesn't Play Well with others, apparently at October 17, 2017 02:13 PM (brsgu)

281 . A large percentage of the people who object to Trump do so for
aesthetic reasons, he just doesn't act Presidential enough for them.
***
And Reagan broke the mold as well.

Look, the Reps nominated a series of look alike failures between Reagan and Trump. It is hardly a shock that the voters finally choose someone who wasn't a Bushie or Bushie clone.

Hell, if the GOPe wanted a serious, sober guy they could have picked Ted Cruz...but they went all in on Teh Jeb! and had a hissy fit when he lost.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2017 02:13 PM (eSx+E)

282
18 It would be interesting to see a Venn diagram of these (R)s and (R)s who call Muslim terrorists Muslim terrorists.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 17, 2017 01:45 PM (rjrh3)

It'd be like looking at a cartoon of Jackie Kennedy's eyes.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 17, 2017 02:13 PM (eXA4G)

283 >>>There's also the Japanese system where she'd be like an F cup I think.

not that I know anything at all about Busty Japanese Porn but I thought they measured entirely by centimeters or something.

Or cubic milimeters or something? They rate breast size with numbers, like "90."

Not that I know anything about this.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:13 PM (8rNrN)

284 189
Exit question: Is there an endgame for Nevertrumpers? If Trump is re-elected, what do they *do*?
=========
Take
over the Springfield Middle School Model U.N. and show the world
how--if only they were in charge--they'd solve all the problems?

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 17, 2017 02:02 PM (sUh6s)
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That is friggin' hilarious and SAF at the same time.

Posted by: Penfold at October 17, 2017 02:13 PM (Fbt5B)

285 "A classic of the slasher genre though. Movie has a young Holly Hunter and Jason Alexander in it too."
----------------------

So now I can't stop seeing an 18 year old Holly Hunter being smothered by folds of hairy fat.

I mean, it's a given that's how she got the role, right?

And Jason Alexander had sex with Bob Weinstein, presumably.

Posted by: Oschisms at October 17, 2017 02:13 PM (70QTT)

286 NeverTrumpers are Objectivity Insurance.

By recommending NeverTrumpers, the Left can say:

"Look I'm being unbiased."

But at the same time, ensure that their readers are will NEVER actually be exposed to real conservative ideas.

Basically, the NeverTrumpers are the dildos/fake vaginas that keep gays from having sex with straight people.

Posted by: shibumi at October 17, 2017 02:14 PM (aT+Bx)

287 Kat Timpf, respected Fox newsblonde.

Also a snotty fake-glasses nitwit nevertrumper, but i repeat myself.

Posted by: dagny at October 17, 2017 02:14 PM (6oU5/)

288 283 >>>There's also the Japanese system where she'd be like an F cup I think.

not that I know anything at all about Busty Japanese Porn but I thought they measured entirely by centimeters or something.

Or cubic milimeters or something? They rate breast size with numbers, like "90."

Not that I know anything about this.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:13 PM (8rNrN)

Why not just measure like they do horses? In hands.

Posted by: Roy at October 17, 2017 02:14 PM (7n4KQ)

289 I am the real Shep Smith.

Posted by: Shep Smith at October 17, 2017 02:14 PM (DrC22)

290 you know when Trump is #winning because that is when CNN dances the pole I mean, polls.

Americans disapprove of Trump's work!! yeah, bull shit.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 17, 2017 02:14 PM (5I0ZI)

291
Whatever you think of his overall worldview and how it fit with this blog, Malor was a serious thinker and wrote well!

Wrong. malor was a lousy and boring writer with an obvious agenda.

Malor was a Shrill Statist who played the non-shrill voice of reason, and he really thought he was fooling his readers.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 02:14 PM (ANIVY)

292 Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2017 02:10 PM (/tuJf)

Nice summary. Only 9 months in- that's a pretty good list of accomplishments.

Posted by: LASue at October 17, 2017 02:15 PM (hZ+us)

293 >>>yeah I had those. Phase 3 has to wait until the next batch comes

ace is the Tony Stark of shelving

Posted by: Max Power at October 17, 2017 02:15 PM (QCc6B)

294 283
>>>There's also the Japanese system where she'd be like an F cup I think.

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I don't like how those make everything so blocky, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 17, 2017 02:15 PM (rjrh3)

295 Ana Navarro is a classic RINO, in that she's in no way a Republican but pretends to be for TV. My favorite fiasco for her was right after Linda "Why Won't You Love Me, I Have a Face Like An Angry Alsatian" Sarsour made her jihad comments a few months back. Everyone on the left was suddenly all, "What? Who? Linda Sar...sore? I'm sorry, I don't know that name. What does she do?"

Ana was quick to jump on that bandwagon, too. "I'd never heard of this person before the whole jihad thing."

http://tinyurl.com/yafqwz64 (Twitter link)

And yet Ana marched in the DC Women's March... coordinated by Linda Sarsour (more Twitter links):

http://tinyurl.com/y9ve4u8f
http://tinyurl.com/yazq4arg

And when she asked for details, on Twitter, PRIOR to the March, guess who responded?

Linda frigging Sarsour.

http://tinyurl.com/yc28b7pe (Twitter again)

Ana's such a liar.
ps://twitter.om/nowhere_nh/status/887686837652905985

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at October 17, 2017 02:15 PM (4df7R)

296 Now lie down and spread your cheeks.

Posted by: Shep Smith at October 17, 2017 02:15 PM (DrC22)

297 243) Just watched The Lobster. It was pretty hilarious.

You should check out a movie from Brazil called The Dolphin
(1987). That is one of the most bizarre films I have seen.
It includes male dolphin mating with hot brazil babe. The sound track is excellent.

Posted by: Glenn John at October 17, 2017 02:15 PM (LilNs)

298 >>>Its occurred to me the #nevertrumpers argument about the current state of our country, is to deflect and not argue at all.

It also occurs to me that people paid to tell you what they really think and take positions on weighty matters of the day still refuse to take a stance on whether Trump or Hillary was preferable.

They hint, like their liberal media buddies, that they would have strongly preferred Hillary, but these Brave Truth-Tellers refuse to say so.

(With the exception of Ben Howe and a couple of other hot-heads.)

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:15 PM (8rNrN)

299 The 25 people on this list are to conservatism as Amy Schumer is to Comedy

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 17, 2017 02:15 PM (KXflM)

300 >>>the NeverTrumpers are the dildos/fake vaginas that keep gays from having sex with straight people.

:::blinks:::
:::blinks:::
I think I will pass on trying to make sense of that analogy.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 17, 2017 02:15 PM (iL1/8)

301 176 AKA 25 Republicans who didn't sell their soul (and dignity) in exchange for easy clicks from the Cult of Trump.

But do go on with telling your readers that revoking NBC's non-existent broadcast license would be cool because Dear Leader suggested it.

Death to the blashpemers! Burn the heretics!

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 17, 2017 02:01 PM (nxsfe)

Hollowpoint wants those cheap gardeners and maids and open borders too?

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 17, 2017 02:16 PM (ujg0T)

302
Bra size:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bra_size

Read, you Morons.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 17, 2017 02:16 PM (8O3HH)

303 Hell, if the GOPe wanted a serious, sober guy they could have picked Ted Cruz...but they went all in on Teh Jeb! and had a hissy fit when he lost.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2017 02:13 PM (eSx+E)

Poor Ted. He was just too odd for most people. Weird face, weird dad, weird.

Posted by: dagny at October 17, 2017 02:16 PM (6oU5/)

304 In 2016 we had a candidate campaigning on war with Russia and throwing her political opponents in jail for ideological crimes.

Anyone who was "nevertrump" in that scenario was at best an idiot.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2017 02:16 PM (eSx+E)

305 Eh, its Salon. This is like a list of the best Italian dishes from ~~Olive Garden~~ Chef Boyardee.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 01:43 PM (39g3+)

Fixt.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 17, 2017 02:16 PM (uiwCw)

306 By recommending NeverTrumpers, the Left can say:

"Look I'm being unbiased."
--------

Which reminds me of the HuffPo 'Get Back in Touch With America' tour...of dark blue cities.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 17, 2017 02:16 PM (w1zJX)

307 The 25 people on this list are to conservatism as Amy Schumer is to Comedy

Posted by: Amy Schumer at October 17, 2017 02:16 PM (7HtZB)

308 Whatever you think of his overall worldview and how it fit with this blog, Malor was a serious thinker and wrote well!
Posted by: Cranky Librarian at October 17, 2017 02:08 PM (UqvOH)

Yes. And he was funny af, too. I miss him.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at October 17, 2017 02:16 PM (kuFbc)

309 I quit reading A/P a couple of years ago and let him know the reason(s) why.

Posted by: Radar at October 17, 2017 02:17 PM (b6jcm)

310 The left is constantly coming up with "memes" like this to divide the right.
So they come up with "we like these Republicans, but those other Rs are evil."

So now even "Americanism" and pride in country is evil/racist. Republicans that admit they have white privilege are OK, but any that are proud of their (white) European heritage are racist/Nazi ... punch them on sight.

And of course the whole statue thing is an effort to divide the right, same concept. Cleaving "us" off into factions as much as possible, using the late night comics and Hollywood. But their heroes are falling, and are hoisted on their own petards (or on their own 'canards', cuz their fake narratives are exposed)

Posted by: illiniwek at October 17, 2017 02:17 PM (/aIFg)

311 So..............conservative.

How do you get to be labeled one when you're just a regular prog? Be straight?

Posted by: dagny at October 17, 2017 02:17 PM (6oU5/)

312 :::blinks:::

:::blinks:::

I think I will pass on trying to make sense of that analogy.
---

hahaha.

Both NeverTrumpers and the other things simulate something.... but aren't the real thing.

NeverTrumpers appear to be a simulation of conservative thinking, but are not.

So... not real/vs real.

Posted by: shibumi at October 17, 2017 02:17 PM (aT+Bx)

313 Is Michelle "one arm" Fields on the list? Her beta male husband?

Posted by: Benji Carver at October 17, 2017 02:18 PM (OD2ni)

314 Evey one of these douchebags and douchbagettes has had Karl Roves DNA inside of them at some point in time.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 17, 2017 02:18 PM (mcI77)

315 Posted by: dagny at October 17, 2017 02:16 PM (6oU5/)

And Trump isn't weird? Weird hair , weird family , weird life?

Posted by: Time right before Mad Max at October 17, 2017 02:18 PM (Q0dwZ)

316 258
I have to give Ghost of Kari credit on this because I increasingly think
he is right. A large percentage of the people who object to Trump do so
for aesthetic reasons, he just doesn't act Presidential enough for
them.

I gotta admit, he makes me cringe at time and he does pick some
fights I wish he would leave alone but it's also pretty hard to overlook
the simple fact that what he is doing is largely working.

I was pretty against Trump during the election for this reason. Didn't ever become #WithHer but voted Johnson (yeah, feel the Johnson!). That being said, I'm pretty happy with how things are going! Once you recognize that the "dignity" of the "office of the Presidency" was violated by BHO and most of the men before him, you can just let go and say "Fuck it, this is what you get."

I sometimes say that while I didn't vote for Trump in 2016 and I certainly don't think he is the ideal of what I want a President to be, I will happily inflict him upon Progressives for another 4 years if they keep up the shit they keep pushing!

Posted by: Cranky Librarian at October 17, 2017 02:18 PM (UqvOH)

317 SE Cupp, two-trick pony.
---
I'll be in the bushes.

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at October 17, 2017 02:18 PM (2mC6G)

318 Timpf graduated magna cum laude from Hillsdale College and, watch out, she'll tell you every chance she gets.

It's her comeback for everything because she couldn't form a cogent argument if her life depended on it.

Posted by: Marcus T, Doesn't Play Well with others, apparently at October 17, 2017 02:18 PM (brsgu)

319 (Which follows logically from the definition of conservatism in the age of Trump, "Whatever makes liberals cry.")

He's right. The definition of conservatism should be "Whatever makes liberals think you're a reasonable person who will concede all their premises and, in the end, buckle and do whatever they want with just a bit of token opposition."

Posted by: Cave Johnson at October 17, 2017 02:18 PM (x/Lj2)

320
What exposed allah at Hot Air was....

the rise of the Tea Party.

allah hated that movement. It really made him change his tune.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 02:19 PM (ANIVY)

321 303 Hell, if the GOPe wanted a serious, sober guy they could have picked Ted Cruz...but they went all in on Teh Jeb! and had a hissy fit when he lost.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2017 02:13 PM (eSx+E)

Poor Ted. He was just too odd for most people. Weird face, weird dad, weird.
Posted by: dagny at October 17, 2017 02:16 PM (6oU5/)

==============

They could have backed him 100% in Indiana which might have stopped Trump's nomination.

But they didn't. They got what they wanted and hate the fact that they got what they wanted.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2017 02:19 PM (0eoFj)

322 Salon?

Is that the webzine that also posts articles that are super-empathetic to pedophiles, or is that Slate?

I get those two confused, and never care enough to ascertain who's who.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 17, 2017 02:19 PM (W+vEI)

323 I don't know, Cult of Trump has been pretty fun. Especially lately with his executive actions, dismantling of Obamacare, giving the finger to the Iran deal and his securing a large space ship for his followers (of which I am one) to Space Nirvana in 2020. Don't like that I have to shave my head.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 17, 2017 02:19 PM (U+nHb)

324
287 Kat Timpf, respected Fox newsblonde.

Also a snotty fake-glasses nitwit nevertrumper, but i repeat myself.

Posted by: dagny at October 17, 2017 02:14 PM (6oU5/)

Her (or Gutfeld's) schtick about her not having a boyfriend and living in some tiny studio with a cat is pretty tiresome too. It's "hey look, we have an millennial with angst, so we're not a old people's network!"

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 17, 2017 02:19 PM (ZM2xo)

325 On the bright side, following these twenty five conservatives will result in an increase in suicides amongst Salon Readers.

Posted by: Fritz at October 17, 2017 02:19 PM (2Mnv1)

326 "Conservative" only for certain values of that term not found in the real number set (you have to divide by i).

Posted by: redbanzai at October 17, 2017 02:19 PM (xDKH6)

327 299
The 25 people on this list are to conservatism as Amy Schumer is to Comedy

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 17, 2017 02:15 PM (KXflM)

Nevertrump is to conservatism as Harvey Weinstein is to gardening.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 17, 2017 02:19 PM (tbOMB)

328 Phase 3...on shelves?

How many friggin shelves are you putting up?

Posted by: Tami at October 17, 2017 02:20 PM (Enq6K)

329 Didn't Rich Lowry just yell at a whole bunch of people at NRO that if Trump you not to jump off a bridge you would jump off the f****** bridge?

That's not me cleaning up my language, that's what Lowry typed.

So put him in the don't like Trump at all but not a Never Trumper camp.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 17, 2017 02:20 PM (mf5HN)

330 323. Space Monkey!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at October 17, 2017 02:20 PM (fA1SL)

331 >>>On the bright side, following these twenty five conservatives will result in an increase in suicides amongst Salon Readers.

No I think they'll come away reassured that progressivism is the one true word of God.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:20 PM (8rNrN)

332
So... not real/vs real.

Posted by: shibumi at October 17, 2017 02:17 PM (aT+Bx)

---------------------------------------------
I think that missed by more than 10 miles :-)

Posted by: RioBravo at October 17, 2017 02:20 PM (SsblQ)

333 I get those two confused, and never care enough to ascertain who's who.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 17, 2017 02:19 PM (W+vEI)

Same here.

Put Salon and Slate together and you have SS.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 17, 2017 02:20 PM (ZM2xo)

334 >>I get those two confused, and never care enough to ascertain who's who.

It's kind of like a Who's Who of Who Cares?

I just made that up.

No I didn't.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2017 02:20 PM (/tuJf)

335 Dignity of the office? Who cares? cut taxes and repeal Obamacare and I don't give a fuck if you have a 16 person orgy in the Oval Office.

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 17, 2017 02:20 PM (KXflM)

336 Rich Lowry it seems is trying to be fair to Trump. Criticize for some things, credit for others. Unacceptable to Salon.

Posted by: Benji Carver at October 17, 2017 02:10 PM (OD2ni)

Lowry is the one who posted the "If Trump told you not to jump off the F%#$ing bridge would you go and do it?" comment, to his own NRO contributors, which indicates that even he has had it with the whining.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Horde Special! Two Free Skepticism When the Outrage Outlet Caters Your Fall Freakout at October 17, 2017 02:20 PM (hLRSq)

337 Did HollowPoint make that list?

Posted by: Meremortal, with hand over heart at October 17, 2017 02:21 PM (3myMJ)

338 >>>Didn't Rich Lowry just yell at a whole bunch of people at NRO that if Trump you not to jump off a bridge you would jump off the f****** bridge?

That's not me cleaning up my language, that's what Lowry typed.

So put him in the don't like Trump at all but not a Never Trumper camp.

...

Correct.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:21 PM (8rNrN)

339 322
Salon is more radical than Slate

Posted by: Glenn John at October 17, 2017 02:21 PM (LilNs)

340 Giving Cupp her due, she took Slate to task about their selection of conservatives a day or so ago.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Axeman at October 17, 2017 02:21 PM (2mC6G)

341 Re: Mussolini vs. Hillary & Barack. I don't think Mussolini actively desired the ruination of his country like the latter do.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 17, 2017 02:21 PM (/qEW2)

342 329 Didn't Rich Lowry just yell at a whole bunch of people at NRO that if Trump you not to jump off a bridge you would jump off the f****** bridge?

That's not me cleaning up my language, that's what Lowry typed.

So put him in the don't like Trump at all but not a Never Trumper camp.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 17, 2017 02:20 PM (mf5HN)

=============

"I totally get why people would disrespect the flag now that Trump said he's against it."
-David French

"You're a fucking idiot."
-Rich Lowry (essentially)

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2017 02:21 PM (0eoFj)

343 I'm surprised Ford O'Connell isn't on here. If he had his way, the Republican and Dem parties would be even more indistinguishable than they are now (he wants open borders and is very upset by social conservatism) and conservatives would thus be forced to pick between two Leftist parties, and therefore forced to SHUT UP.

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at October 17, 2017 02:21 PM (dUcQ6)

344 >>>How many friggin shelves are you putting up?

12. I have 9 up now. (Phase 1 was two sets of 3.)

It's just nothing but shelves. It's glorious.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:22 PM (8rNrN)

345 Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 17, 2017 02:20 PM (mf5HN)

I'm thinking like you.

That could result in a higher body-count.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Horde Special! Two Free Skepticism When the Outrage Outlet Caters Your Fall Freakout at October 17, 2017 02:22 PM (hLRSq)

346 It also occurs to me that people paid to tell you what they really think
and take positions on weighty matters of the day still refuse to take a
stance on whether Trump or Hillary was preferable.

---

I can tell you the exact moment I stopped going to Hotair.

Ed posted that he was going to need to wait until November to know if he would vote for Hillary or for Trump. June 2016:

"As I wrote in my column for The Week today, for the first time in my adult life I feel the need to wait until
November to decide how I will vote in a presidential election"

"So when I look at the 2016 presidential election, the real question
comes down to this: Which candidate will give me the best opportunity to
advance the policies and issues that matter to me as a voter? If the
race comes down to a binary choice between two reprehensible characters,
both of whom have issues about power and oversight, then I will have to
choose the one who best answers that question."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 17, 2017 02:22 PM (rjrh3)

347 I don't give a fuck if you have a 16 person orgy in the Oval Office.

-------

:whistles nonchalantly:

Posted by: Zombie JFK at October 17, 2017 02:22 PM (7HtZB)

348 Republicans who didn't sell their soul (and dignity) in exchange for easy clicks from the Cult of Trump.

The ones who did sell it to the Cult of Prog? The ones who voluntarily went over to the dark side because "principles" they never defined, which really were "I want money?"

It's not turning out for them how they thought it would. The little liars and squishy spine-free arrogant asswipes thought they'd get kudos for dissing on Trump because and only because they were fine with progressive principles INCLUDING open borders.

Newsflash, open borders is progressiveism in a nut shell. If you like it, you're a prog. A filthy, communist, america hating prog. Period.

Posted by: dagny at October 17, 2017 02:22 PM (6oU5/)

349 Anyone who can't overlook their previous objections to Trump and get over their preconceived notions of how a President should act to recognize that Trump is doing exactly what a conservative president should do is either totally dishonest or to stupid to be taken seriously.

More specifically, he's doing pretty much the only things a conservative President *can* do in this media environment.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 17, 2017 02:23 PM (3J/LN)

350
remember the DEWEY DECIMAL SYSTEM?

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at October 17, 2017 02:23 PM (ANIVY)

351 Hey guys, did you hear that the NIH is choosing to spend money on silly Tranny studies?

Given that it's part of a cabinet agency, under control of the Executive Branch, what we really need is a post blaming not the head of said Executive Branch who could put a stop to it with a phone call. No, what we need is a post blaming The GOPe in Congress.

Oh wait, sorry. ace already did that one. Kudos for keeping the Cult entertained.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 17, 2017 02:23 PM (nxsfe)

352 Hillsdale is a real college? I thought it was just one of those online things that buys ads on talk radio.

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 17, 2017 02:23 PM (KXflM)

353 12. I have 9 up now. (Phase 1 was two sets of 3.)

It's just nothing but shelves. It's glorious.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:22 PM (8rNrN)

TWELVE!? Da fuq? Is this for a doll collection or what?

Posted by: Tami at October 17, 2017 02:23 PM (Enq6K)

354 "344 >>>How many friggin shelves are you putting up?

12. I have 9 up now. (Phase 1 was two sets of 3.)

It's just nothing but shelves. It's glorious."

How many damn comic book and video game figurines can one person own?

Posted by: Marcus T, Doesn't Play Well with others, apparently at October 17, 2017 02:23 PM (brsgu)

355 Odd it only posted the quote and not the rest of my comment.

I was noting that a western D cup is like an H or larger in Japan. Their system is much more graduated and weighted toward small.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 02:23 PM (39g3+)

356 I'm thinking like you.

That could result in a higher body-count.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Horde Special! Two Free Skepticism When the Outrage Outlet Caters Your Fall Freakout at October 17, 2017 02:22 PM (hLRSq)

*pats couch*

Come, sit by me.

I have Cheezits.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 17, 2017 02:24 PM (mf5HN)

357 What's weird to me is the "TRUMP HASN'T DONE ANYTHING AT ALL YET [except Gorsuch]" from the GOP and "TRUMP IS WRECKING EVERYTHING!" from the left.

Congrats on the shelves, Ace! I really want to start doing stuff in that vein, too.

Posted by: moviegique at October 17, 2017 02:24 PM (7zeA4)

358 Whatever you think of his overall worldview and how it fit with this blog, Malor was a serious thinker and wrote well!

Posted by: Cranky Librarian at October 17, 2017 02:08 PM (UqvOH)

----------------------------------------
Served up with fabulous arrogance.

Posted by: RioBravo

I often liked reading his posts (whether in agreement or not) but he had this extremely bad habit of wading into the comments and always picking the most extreme or insulting objection then projecting that onto everybody who might be criticizing any particular point.

It got real old real fast.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at October 17, 2017 02:24 PM (BrQrN)

359 And if you had told me a year ago Rich Lowry would emerge as a voice of reason at NRO.... I'd have jumped off a bridge (but only if Trump said not to).

Posted by: John Marston at October 17, 2017 02:24 PM (SkuXa)

360 >>>Is this for a doll collection or what

ACTION FIGURES!!!! NOT DOLLS!!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 17, 2017 02:24 PM (iL1/8)

361 352 Hillsdale is a real college? I thought it was just one of those online things that buys ads on talk radio.
Posted by: #neverskankles at October 17, 2017 02:23 PM (KXflM)

I love their football team, the Fighting Invisible Hands

Posted by: josephistan at October 17, 2017 02:24 PM (7HtZB)

362 Whatever you think of his overall worldview and how it fit with this blog, Malor was a serious thinker and wrote well!
============
I don't think there is any seriousness to a guy who promised over and over that gay marriage was the sole end game of the gay mafia.

I use a different word for people who deny both facts and history.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 17, 2017 02:25 PM (sUh6s)

363
Remember when Librarys had those huge wooden cabinets, full of small but long wooden draws, filled with tens of thousands of 3x5? paper cards?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 02:25 PM (ANIVY)

364 >>>TWELVE!? Da fuq? Is this for a doll collection or what?

I have a lot of books and various stupid things I don't have room for (like exercise bands, face-pull bands, crap like that).

I don't currently have any toys or figures. but with these shelves, who knows. Sky's the limit!

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:25 PM (8rNrN)

365
Aw, how cute. Twenty five 4H lambs, cosseted, shown off, then slaughtered.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 17, 2017 02:25 PM (BWL+E)

366 Oh wait, sorry. ace already did that one. Kudos for keeping the Cult entertained.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 17, 2017 02:23 PM (nxsfe)

You're free to go post on any #NeverTrump site you want...and yet you come here to poop.

Need attention?

Posted by: Tami at October 17, 2017 02:25 PM (Enq6K)

367 2017 - A Shelf Odyssey

My God, it's full of shelves!

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2017 02:25 PM (/tuJf)

368 I'll be in the bushes.

For those who missed it, the restaurant owner who co-witnessed Weinstein's whack-off, it wasn't into a potted plant, it was into one of the sous chef's pans.

So whatever that restaurant is, don't order the white sauce.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 17, 2017 02:25 PM (3J/LN)

369 I always hated Allahpundit. Even waaay back before the 08 election. He's a twerp who acts like a douche.

Posted by: dagny at October 17, 2017 02:25 PM (6oU5/)

370 How dare you not post specifically about things Hollowpoint is personally interested in, Ace.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 17, 2017 02:25 PM (rjrh3)

371 But do go on with telling your readers that revoking NBC's non-existent broadcast license would be cool because Dear Leader suggested it.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 17, 2017 02:01 PM (nxsfe)

++++

NBC possesses 12 broadcast licenses.

http://tinyurl.com/ycjxgrcp

But, you keep on spouting those lefty talking points!

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 17, 2017 02:25 PM (FUu/Z)

372 allah hated that movement. It really made him change his tune.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 02:19 PM (ANIVY)
---
Nah, he was always kind of fond of flaunting how much better he knew just the exact shape of the party hat judges had made out of the Constitution, and how it was so much better that the wise party-hat makers had more say than people who wouldn't know how to make the same party hat.

Posted by: Axeman at October 17, 2017 02:25 PM (2mC6G)

373 Timpf apparently had a really ugly breakup, which prompted Gutfeld's schtick with her.

It is getting old though.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 17, 2017 02:25 PM (ul9CR)

374 >>>Congrats on the shelves, Ace! I really want to start doing stuff in that vein, too.

you want GAINZZZ in storage solutions?

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:26 PM (8rNrN)

375
*pats couch*

Come, sit by me.

I have Cheezits.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 17, 2017 02:24 PM (mf5HN)

I like Cheezits.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Horde Special! Two Free Skepticism When the Outrage Outlet Caters Your Fall Freakout at October 17, 2017 02:26 PM (hLRSq)

376 Does anyone know if ace tested the shelves before moving on to Phase 3?

Or 2, for that matter?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at October 17, 2017 02:26 PM (kuFbc)

377 360. Historically accurate miniatures!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at October 17, 2017 02:26 PM (fA1SL)

378 Pro tip. When you start to defend your allegedly serious arguments with Don Rickles tactics, you've lost and lost big.

Posted by: Marcus T, Doesn't Play Well with others, apparently at October 17, 2017 02:26 PM (brsgu)

379 I have a lot of books and various stupid things I don't have room for (like exercise bands, face-pull bands, crap like that).

I don't currently have any toys or figures. but with these shelves, who knows. Sky's the limit!

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:25 PM (8rNrN)

The bands could have gone on hooks. Maybe turn phase 3 into a hook phase?

Posted by: Tami at October 17, 2017 02:26 PM (Enq6K)

380 I'm not a fan of S.E. Cupp's establishment neocon stance.

I'm a big fan of her appearance though. Just.....luscious.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at October 17, 2017 02:26 PM (7hCBA)

381 And if you had told me a year ago Rich Lowry would emerge as a voice of reason at NRO.... I'd have jumped off a bridge (but only if Trump said not to).
Posted by: John Marston at October 17, 2017 02:24 PM (SkuXa)

Isn't Lowry like lead editor or something? You know, someone who sees the financials?

I bring this up for no reason.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 17, 2017 02:26 PM (mf5HN)

382 350

remember the DEWEY DECIMAL SYSTEM?

So Say We All!

363

Remember when Librarys had those huge wooden cabinets, full of small
but long wooden draws, filled with tens of thousands of 3x5? paper
cards?

You said it, man, let the world return to this glory...

Posted by: Cranky Librarian at October 17, 2017 02:26 PM (UqvOH)

383 >>>I don't currently have any toys or figures. but with these shelves, who knows. Sky's the limit!

Plenty of space for powders and pills and water bottles!!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 17, 2017 02:27 PM (iL1/8)

384 >>>How dare you not post specifically about things Hollowpoint is personally interested in, Ace.

I assume he knows where to find the Hot Air Button and AllahPundit's twitter feed.

Heck, Salon just gave him a list of 25 Twits he could follow!!!

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:27 PM (8rNrN)

385
Trump on McCain: I'm being very nice now, but at some point I hit back. And it won't be pretty.

He said something about like that.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 17, 2017 02:27 PM (8O3HH)

386 374. A thread on that would be helpful for many. The whole 5 S thing applied to hovel keeping.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at October 17, 2017 02:27 PM (fA1SL)

387 "Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 17, 2017 02:23 PM (nxsfe)"

This guy wasn't always a troll, was he?

Posted by: Chris M at October 17, 2017 02:27 PM (eAZVt)

388 This "lantern jaw" thing ... Keira Knightley has a prominent lower jaw line, and that doesn't diminish her appeal ... at all. So, be proud, Ms. Cupp, and jaw away. Some cleavage wouldn't hurt, either.

Posted by: mrp at October 17, 2017 02:27 PM (Pqytn)

389 Ed at HotAir is not that bad, but he's a Catholic so a lot of conservative Protestants have problems with him, especially when he defends Pope Francis.

Posted by: p0sTpWnEd at October 17, 2017 02:27 PM (Rks3h)

390 Is ace still buds with allahpundit? I'm thinking no.

Great post by the way, it needed to be done. I wish ace would become more active in twitter, the right needs him.

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 17, 2017 02:27 PM (nKbPK)

391 Sally Kohn has a lantern jaw. Cupp doesn't have a lantern jaw, she's quite fetching. Several years ago I stumbled onto the Cain/Cupp podcast, but after listening to a few episodes, it became pretty apparent that neither was conservative. What a shame.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 17, 2017 02:27 PM (/qEW2)

392
344 >>>How many friggin shelves are you putting up?

12. I have 9 up now. (Phase 1 was two sets of 3.)

It's just nothing but shelves. It's glorious.
Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:22 PM (8rNrN)

So you've progressed beyond "shelf-curious"......

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 17, 2017 02:27 PM (eXA4G)

393 BTW, what is the public position of the 25 Top TrueCons on this whole tranny phone call thing?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 17, 2017 02:28 PM (rjrh3)

394
Nah, allah hated the "uppity" conservatives who didn't knwo their place, which was in a perpetual ignorant slumber.

The Tea Party movement made allah go left-ward.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 02:28 PM (ANIVY)

395 Ben Howe is the worst. Almost used the word "cuck" once because of that twerp.

Posted by: forest at October 17, 2017 02:28 PM (I11gO)

396 The best line in that, imo: "It is and you're not."

Succinct, pithy, straight to the heart. Zap!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead) at October 17, 2017 02:28 PM (xq6Dg)

397
And yet after a story like the new russian bribery scandal these never-trumpers will still prefer hillary. They like their corruption as long as its among their cocktail party circuit.

Posted by: Kramer at October 17, 2017 02:28 PM (r+sAi)

398 >>>The bands could have gone on hooks. Maybe turn phase 3 into a hook phase?

i'm thinking a hook and cargo net for this stupid balance/stretch ball (which is huge) that I never use and really should just throw the hell out.

I also need to put up some weapon holding stuff. For my martial arts weapons.

I'll be really proud of that one.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:28 PM (8rNrN)

399 >>> Sally Kohn has a lantern jaw

That is not a lantern jaw, that is a lighthouse face!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 17, 2017 02:28 PM (iL1/8)

400 I touch my shelf
And no one else
When I think about you I touch my shelf

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 17, 2017 02:29 PM (ul9CR)

401 In fairness, Trump isn't really a conservative, and is only nominally a Republican. Yet, he is accomplishing actually conservative things that the Conservative Movement(TM) has failed to accomplish in twenty years.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 17, 2017 02:29 PM (O7MnT)

402 Yup. Nothing quite says "true con" like agreeing with liberal progtards that Trump is LITERALLY a fascist.

The delusions, they're strong with the NeverTrump crowd.

And I have to say, I'm quite proud of myself for kicking my Hotair habit about this time last year. Haven't missed it for more than a half hour, I'd bet.

Posted by: deadrody at October 17, 2017 02:29 PM (FvbGP)

403 >>So put him in the don't like Trump at all but not a Never Trumper camp. Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 17, 2017 02:20 PM (mf5HN)

Noted. Karma would still be served if someone just once beat that smirk off his face with a sockful of marbles.

Posted by: Zod at October 17, 2017 02:29 PM (Bdeb0)

404 >>you want GAINZZZ in storage solutions?

No, more of the "handiness" GAINZZZ. Although what I'd love to do is restore old pinball machines. I'm torn between doing something, you know, actually useful/viable as a trade, and the fact that, barring civilizational collapse, the bit twiddling is going to keep me in clover, so why not just have fun?

Posted by: moviegique at October 17, 2017 02:29 PM (7zeA4)

405 359 And if you had told me a year ago Rich Lowry would emerge as a voice of reason at NRO.... I'd have jumped off a bridge (but only if Trump said not to).
Posted by: John Marston at October 17, 2017 02:24 PM (SkuXa)

David French and to some extent, Goldberg, were scared stupid by a bunch of pimply faced progressive 19 year old pretend "nazis" who made cyberwar on them. They bought it hook, line and sinker. They then associated the "nazi" threat with Trump (which was the point) and reacted accordingly.

Posted by: dagny at October 17, 2017 02:29 PM (6oU5/)

406 385
Trump on McCain: I'm being very nice now, but at some point I hit back. And it won't be pretty.

He said something about like that.

I would like to see that.

I listened to McCain's speech yesterday. He sounded like he had one foot on a banana peel and the other already in the grave. Sad.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 17, 2017 02:29 PM (mcI77)

407 Trump on McCain: I'm being very nice now, but at some point I hit back. And it won't be pretty.

He said something about like that.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 17, 2017 02:27 PM (8O3HH)

History shows that people who pick fights with Donald Trump do not come out ahead.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Horde Special! Two Free Skepticism When the Outrage Outlet Caters Your Fall Freakout at October 17, 2017 02:29 PM (hLRSq)

408 SE Cupp, two-trick pony.

Id pay to see that

Posted by: The Jackhole Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 17, 2017 02:29 PM (M+Lyo)

409 "I totally get why people would disrespect the flag now that Trump said he's against it."
-David French

French is why I stopped giving clicks to NRO and instead give them to Ace. I used to like reading VDH and Geraghty, but got tired of wading through the crap to get to them.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at October 17, 2017 02:30 PM (kUmUV)

410 I used to (and this was about seven-ten years ago) frequent HA. That was before Malkin sold it. Used to be a decent site.

I recall criticizing SE Cupp there and was sternly told that a conservative movement without room for Cupp's views is far too exclusive to have any kind of allure.

Guess a movement that doesn't have room for Trump is just dandy though.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at October 17, 2017 02:30 PM (eytER)

411 Hillsdale is a real college? I thought it was just one of those online things that buys ads on talk radio.
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Totally real.

Brick and mortar conservative school in MI with no federal funds IIRC.

Posted by: shibumi at October 17, 2017 02:30 PM (aT+Bx)

412 O/T: F'ing GOPe again.

Senate announces deal to get subsidies going again to Insurance companies. They're actively trying to save Obamacare.

Bannon's right: Primary them, primary them all.

Posted by: WisRich at October 17, 2017 02:30 PM (G0vdT)

413 I don't read "Salon" except when something by them is posted here, so I don't have to worry about what they think I might enjoy reading.

I would give the descriptions of the "conservatives" an "A" rating for "acerbic", Ace. Well done!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 17, 2017 02:30 PM (iVOAv)

414 Kohn's looks are...I'm gonna go with "unfortunate."

Could be worse though. It's kind of a good thing she's not hetero.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 17, 2017 02:30 PM (ul9CR)

415
Pro Tip: Never hang swords over your bed's headboard.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 02:30 PM (ANIVY)

416 I can argue all day with the Washington Post.

It's the Washington Post!!!!!

What little is fact is wrong the rest are made up lies created in the editor fevered brain.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead) at October 17, 2017 02:30 PM (xq6Dg)

417 401
In fairness, Trump isn't really a conservative, and is only nominally a
Republican. Yet, he is accomplishing actually conservative things that
the Conservative Movement(TM) has failed to accomplish in twenty years.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 17, 2017 02:29 PM (O7MnT)

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It is pretty disturbing to know that he wouldn't be considered a conservative in the 80s and early 90s, and here he is to the right of Congress on almost everything.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 17, 2017 02:30 PM (rjrh3)

418 >>>So you've progressed beyond "shelf-curious"......

I don't believe in being bishelfual. Either you're shelfual or you're not.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:30 PM (8rNrN)

419 It's a list of 25 people they'd feel comfortable inviting into their bubble.

Posted by: Dang at October 17, 2017 02:30 PM (8b+oT)

420 >>Cupp...I'm a big fan of her appearance though. Just.....luscious. Posted by: Reggie1971 at October 17, 2017 02:26 PM (7hCBA)

Nice stems.

Posted by: Zod at October 17, 2017 02:30 PM (Bdeb0)

421 "Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 17, 2017 02:23 PM (nxsfe)"

This guy wasn't always a troll, was he?

Posted by: Chris M at October 17, 2017 02:27 PM (eAZVt)

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Not in the Big Tent era. However, he didn't fit in with the new shelf-compliant tent.

Posted by: RioBravo at October 17, 2017 02:30 PM (SsblQ)

422 406 385
Trump on McCain: I'm being very nice now, but at some point I hit back. And it won't be pretty.

He said something about like that.

I would like to see that.

I listened to McCain's speech yesterday. He sounded like he had one foot on a banana peel and the other already in the grave. Sad.
Posted by: Under Fire at October 17, 2017 02:29 PM (mcI77)

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You'd think a diagnosis of brain cancer would get someone to rethink how he spends his final years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2017 02:31 PM (0eoFj)

423 Senate announces deal to get subsidies going again to Insurance companies. They're actively trying to save Obamacare.

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Ta-dah!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 17, 2017 02:31 PM (rjrh3)

424 Aw, how cute. Twenty five 4H lambs, cosseted, shown off, then slaughtered.

Mmmmmmmmmm. Gyros.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2017 02:31 PM (WrQfI)

425 If only Salon put together a cruise with these 25 bright lights of conservatism, and charged their newfound Lefty twitter readers for the pleasure of their conversation while enjoying wine, cheese and some cheesy showtunes....

Posted by: Lizzy at October 17, 2017 02:31 PM (W+vEI)

426 Isn't Lowry like lead editor or something? You know, someone who sees the financials?

As Kurt Schlichter would put it, he's the guy who's seen the booking rate for this fall's delightful NRO Cruise.

I have to think those bookings took a natural dive after they excommunicated Mark Steyn though.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 17, 2017 02:31 PM (3J/LN)

427 378 Pro tip. When you start to defend your allegedly serious arguments with Don Rickles tactics, you've lost and lost big.

Posted by: Marcus T, Doesn't Play Well with others, apparently at October 17, 2017 02:26 PM (brsgu)

And it was incredible how quickly they went to that tactic.

They've always been a bunch of lightweight loafers.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 17, 2017 02:31 PM (4ErVI)

428 421. You can't hang shelves with nuclear arms.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at October 17, 2017 02:31 PM (fA1SL)

429 There's something about Timpf that makes me think very naughty,dirty thoughts.

Posted by: Bosk at October 17, 2017 02:31 PM (fjMEv)

430
In fairness, Trump isn't really a conservative, and is only nominally a Republican. Yet, he is accomplishing actually conservative things that the Conservative Movement(TM) has failed to accomplish in twenty years.

Strange, eh?

President Trump is the most conservative president in my lifetime.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 02:32 PM (ANIVY)

431 McCain only cares about one thing, and that's being called "daring" and "a maverick" by his one true love, The Media.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 17, 2017 02:32 PM (l9m7l)

432 >>In fairness, Trump isn't really a conservative, and is only nominally a Republican. Yet, he is accomplishing actually conservative things that the Conservative Movement(TM) has failed to accomplish in twenty years.

If suck enough dick you are gay. If you do enough conservative things you are conservative.

He may not fit the traditional mold and he may have come to conservatism late and out of convenience but as you said he has done more to actually enact conservative positions than anyone in the last twenty, hell longer than that, year.

That makes him a conservative in my book.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2017 02:32 PM (/tuJf)

433 423 Senate announces deal to get subsidies going again to Insurance companies. They're actively trying to save Obamacare.

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Ta-dah!
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 17, 2017 02:31 PM (rjrh3)

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Well, better that than trying to repeal any part of the law or anything.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2017 02:32 PM (0eoFj)

434 >>Newsflash, open borders is progressiveism in a nut shell.

I disagree. America would be fine with open borders if it didn't also have the Welfare State. I would gladly trade all the social programs we have for open borders.

As Friedman points out, though: You can't have both.

Posted by: moviegique at October 17, 2017 02:32 PM (7zeA4)

435
Ever figure out what the hell was behind the wall that was stopping your drill-bit?

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 17, 2017 02:32 PM (EgwCt)

436 It is pretty disturbing to know that he wouldn't be
considered a conservative in the 80s and early 90s, and here he is to
the right of Congress on almost everything.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 17, 2017 02:30 PM (rjrh3)

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He isn't considered conservative compared to the campaign rhetoric of the current Republican Congressthings.

Posted by: RioBravo at October 17, 2017 02:32 PM (SsblQ)

437 Senate announces deal to get subsidies going again to Insurance companies.

Those. Suckers. Of. Cock.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 17, 2017 02:32 PM (ul9CR)

438 I disagree with Trump's idea of yanking licenses from news organizations. There is a point at which that's reasonable -- its why they HAVE licenses, in the first place. If you cannot at any time do so, there's no point in even licensing unless its just a fundraiser. I just don't think they've gotten that bad yet, and maybe never.

The thing is too many people people seem to not be able to walk any middle ground. Its always staggering to a ditch on one side or another.

You don't have to adore or despise Trump. Like what he does that's good, oppose the stuff that's bad. He's not perfect or a demon.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 02:33 PM (39g3+)

439 The hesitate to criticize Trump because he doesn't need any additional criticism from his own supporters but damn he makes it difficult sometimes.

Posted by: Time right before Mad Max at October 17, 2017 02:33 PM (Q0dwZ)

440 412 O/T: F'ing GOPe again.

Senate announces deal to get subsidies going again to Insurance companies. They're actively trying to save Obamacare.

I'm signing off now before I blow an artery through the top of my head.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 17, 2017 02:33 PM (mcI77)

441 397

And yet after a story like the new russian bribery scandal these
never-trumpers will still prefer hillary. They like their corruption as
long as its among their cocktail party circuit.

Posted by: Kramer at October 17, 2017 02:28 PM (r+sAi)
A brief summary of what their stories columns will sound like:

"The scandalous behavior of the Obama administration and the former Secretary of State is made even more obvious by these revelations, and makes one lament the fact that - had this information been revealed during the primaries - we could have had Rubio!"

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at October 17, 2017 02:33 PM (4df7R)

442 I used to read Hot Air regularly, until the past election season. Now I only look at it occasionally to find out what the Never-Trumpers are saying.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 17, 2017 02:33 PM (v5uOx)

443 I had a conversation once with Howe. It was like talking to RainMan. Only a real idiot. Not an idiot savant.

It probably takes him a day to write one post or his mom writes it for him. Guaranteed.

Posted by: Marcus T, Doesn't Play Well with others, apparently at October 17, 2017 02:33 PM (brsgu)

444 >>> Although what I'd love to do is restore old pinball machines

sexton restores old video game machines. Buys the cabinets, pays a printer to print up the old trade dress (like for Defender or whatever). Then you can buy these cards that have like 200 or 300 classic arcade games on them.

He has two, or did have two (maybe he has more now). you need one screen for most games, and then a different screen for like asteroids and the games that used that bright-line kind of screen.

anyway, great way to burn your money!

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:33 PM (8rNrN)

445
Just to be clear, George W Bush was a phony conservative. Bush was a conservative Statist, at best.

Reagan was okay. Bush I was a government/corporatist turd who belonged to the Republican political party.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 02:33 PM (ANIVY)

446 I'm thinking we could produce a movie of 'Fright Night' by simply compiling the 2016 election coverage by CNN and MS/NBC. I bet it would sell well.

Posted by: Pudding Head at October 17, 2017 02:34 PM (YV+SU)

447 I'm thinking we could produce a movie of 'Fright Night' by simply compiling the 2016 election coverage by CNN and MS/NBC. I bet it would sell well.

Posted by: Pudding Head at October 17, 2017 02:34 PM (YV+SU)

448 434 >>Newsflash, open borders is progressiveism in a nut shell.

I disagree. America would be fine with open borders if it didn't also have the Welfare State. I would gladly trade all the social programs we have for open borders.

As Friedman points out, though: You can't have both.
Posted by: moviegique at October 17, 2017 02:32 PM (7zeA4)

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Gotta throw in the citizen variable into that equation as well.

If anyone can walk in, gain citizenship, and vote away our rights, then our nation has no meaning.

Open borders for visits, but closed borders for citizenship.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2017 02:34 PM (0eoFj)

449 In fairness, Trump isn't really a conservative, and is only nominally a
Republican. Yet, he is accomplishing actually conservative things that
the Conservative Movement(TM) has failed to accomplish in twenty years.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 17, 2017 02:29 PM (O7MnT)

Then by definition he is the more conservative because he walks the what others merely talk.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Horde Special! Two Free Skepticism When the Outrage Outlet Caters Your Fall Freakout at October 17, 2017 02:34 PM (hLRSq)

450 Doubly good.

Posted by: Pudding Head at October 17, 2017 02:34 PM (YV+SU)

451 You don't have to adore or despise Trump. Like what he does that's good, oppose the stuff that's bad. He's not perfect or a demon.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 02:33 PM (39g3+)

I would like to get back to not caring about the President because what the President does doesn't have a major impact on my life.

See also all Congressional races no longer being national races.

I would also like a unicorn and to be able to reach the second set of ace's shelves.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 17, 2017 02:34 PM (mf5HN)

452 401 In fairness, Trump isn't really a conservative, and is only nominally a Republican. Yet, he is accomplishing actually conservative things that the Conservative Movement(TM) has failed to accomplish in twenty years.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 17, 2017 02:29 PM (O7MnT)

He's not ideological, if that's what you mean. So far I, an actual conservative, is fine with him although early on I thought I would not be.
You know what's really super duper "conservative?" Not advancing the f-ing left wing american hating progressives.
If you side with progressives against Trump, you're a progressive because if the progressives are opposing him, they aren't doing it because they're f-ing conservatives.

How these people think that siding with progressives is somehow "conservative" then they don't have the first f-ing clue what "conservatismm" is.

Trump has actually been more conservative than the Fredocons. He's appointed solid judges, gave us back good rules of engagement, is america first, is returning policy to congress, etc etc.

Posted by: dagny at October 17, 2017 02:34 PM (6oU5/)

453 >>>If suck enough dick you are gay. If you do enough conservative things you are conservative.

Between this and the comment by shibumi, I think we need to work on our analogies. This is way TMI. All we need is for Pepe to show up and it will be a trifecta.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 17, 2017 02:34 PM (iL1/8)

454 Jennifer Rubin
===

Ole Unibrow.

How's Mitt's poll numbers doing there J-Rub?

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 17, 2017 02:34 PM (2wRtc)

455 Senate announces deal to get subsidies going again to Insurance companies. They're actively trying to save Obamacare.

Bannon's right: Primary them, primary them all.
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Yeah, where's our "burn it to the ground/salt the earth" commenter?

I think that a good plan re: GOPe.

Posted by: shibumi at October 17, 2017 02:34 PM (aT+Bx)

456 In many ways Trump is more conservative than Reagan because Trump don't placate.

Posted by: x at October 17, 2017 02:35 PM (nFwvY)

457 I disagree. America would be fine with open borders if it didn't also have the Welfare State. I would gladly trade all the social programs we have for open borders.

As Friedman points out, though: You can't have both.
Posted by: moviegique at October 17, 2017 02:32 PM (7zeA4)

Sorry, but you import people who will vote for Demunists, you will get more government programs.

People like to smear the "alt-right", but they have a point: Culture Matters.

And the GOPee Globalists seem to think that all they need to do is offer more tax cuts, even as social frictions reach the burning point in our land.

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 17, 2017 02:35 PM (ujg0T)

458 445
Just to be clear, George W Bush was a phony conservative. Bush was a conservative Statist, at best.

Reagan was okay. Bush I was a government/corporatist turd who belonged to the Republican political party.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 02:33 PM (ANIVY)

==============

"What have you people done to my party?"
-Zombie Calvin Coolidge

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2017 02:35 PM (0eoFj)

459 437 Senate announces deal to get subsidies going again to Insurance companies.

Those. Suckers. Of. Cock.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 17, 2017 02:32 PM (ul9CR)

I should clarify, it was Alexander and Murray (bi,f'ing, partisan, meaning conservatives got the shaft).

Not clear weather there is wider support but Trump knows about it and seams to be signaling support.

Posted by: WisRich at October 17, 2017 02:35 PM (G0vdT)

460
It's obvious now that Republican Agenda is to maintain the obama status quo.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 02:35 PM (ANIVY)

461 i'm thinking a hook and cargo net for this stupid balance/stretch ball (which is huge) that I never use and really should just throw the hell out.

I also need to put up some weapon holding stuff. For my martial arts weapons.

I'll be really proud of that one.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:28 PM (8rNrN)

Do push ups with your feet on the stability ball. Activates lots of muscles.

And get a Klingon Bat'leth to put up...

Posted by: Tami at October 17, 2017 02:36 PM (Enq6K)

462 Everybody talks about all the great movies Weinstein and Miramax did.

I haven't seen a single one of 'em.

Posted by: West at October 17, 2017 02:36 PM (1Rgee)

463 I want the Left to continue to hammer Trump fairly or unfairly. It only makes him take actions that spite them just as a response. Bad for them. Good for us.

Posted by: Time right before Mad Max at October 17, 2017 02:36 PM (Q0dwZ)

464 You asked for miracles, Theo, I give you: The Gee-Oh-Pee.

I know this is an upsetting time for people but I gotta admit: It's damned interesting. The failure theater (for me) had gotten really, really boring.

Posted by: moviegique at October 17, 2017 02:36 PM (7zeA4)

465 >>>Ever figure out what the hell was behind the wall that was stopping your drill-bit?

Skull of a dead hooker?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 17, 2017 02:36 PM (iL1/8)

466 >>In fairness, Trump isn't really a conservative, and is only nominally a
Republican. Yet, he is accomplishing actually conservative things that
the Conservative Movement(TM) has failed to accomplish in twenty years.

This.

And the bonus - which makes the cringe-inducing moments tolerable - he is driving the Left absolutely bonkers.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 17, 2017 02:36 PM (W+vEI)

467 I always hated Allahpundit. Even waaay back before the 08 election. He's a twerp who acts like a douche.

The only decent thing Allahpundit ever did was the Paul Anka 45s collection.

At this point, he's rivaling Oliver "Whatchoo Talkin' 'Bout?" Willis for depth of thought.

Posted by: Charlie Chaplin at October 17, 2017 02:36 PM (X6fMO)

468 Hillsdale is a real college? I thought it was just one of those online things that buys ads on talk radio.
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Totally real.

My sister's son is a junior in high school. She suggested he consider Hillsdale since he is very politically conservative. His answer, "No, mom, Ben Shapiro says we have to take the fight to the left."

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 17, 2017 02:36 PM (O7MnT)

469 Bush I:

"Kinder, gentler nation"
"A thousand points of light"
"READ MY LIPS: NO NEW TAXES"

One term and then we got Slick and Hillary.

Posted by: mrp at October 17, 2017 02:37 PM (Pqytn)

470 I wonder - a lot, lately - if Michelle Malkin regrets leaving Hot Air with AP in charge.

Sad what's happened over there. It feels like LGF all over again.

Posted by: fretless at October 17, 2017 02:37 PM (sGtp+)

471 Again, this was back when I was trying to avoid blog drama, which I thought was soooo 2006.Posted by Ace

This was when we had the kinder, gentler Ace.

Posted by: FITP at October 17, 2017 02:37 PM (QK1G1)

472 SE Cupp, I wouldnt hit that flat chested twathead with a two by four.

Wait actually, yeah I would.

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at October 17, 2017 02:37 PM (+dsLj)

473 Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 02:33 PM (ANIVY)

You're clear as mud.

Posted by: Time right before Mad Max at October 17, 2017 02:37 PM (Q0dwZ)

474
Jennifer Rubin
===

Ole Unibrow.

Anyone ever put a side-by-side of Rubin and Bert from Sesame Street?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 02:37 PM (ANIVY)

475 389 Ed at HotAir is not that bad, but he's a Catholic so a lot of conservative Protestants have problems with him, especially when he defends Pope Francis.

Ed, like most of the past HotAir commentators, were blindly tribal Catholics. How long was Rick Santorum embraced by HotAir? Even after Santorum came out as the lone republican candidate to affirmatively oppose the 10th Amendment (for real), anyone who criticized Santorum was dismissed by HotAir as "anti-Catholic". You are doing the same thing for ol' poppin' fresh. He sucks, and I say that despite his Catholicism, not because of it.

Posted by: wooga at October 17, 2017 02:37 PM (YjLwR)

476 I would like to get back to not caring about the President because what the President does doesn't have a major impact on my life.

See also all Congressional races no longer being national races.

Yeah, that would be ideal. Government so small and fixated on state's rights that you barely notice them. That's what they are supposed to do and be. Well, we can dream.

But I'd be careful around the unicorn. They murder non-virgins.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 02:38 PM (39g3+)

477 The only decent thing Allahpundit ever did was the Paul Anka 45s collection.

===

And the Humpbot.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 17, 2017 02:38 PM (2wRtc)

478 They should publish that list as 25 People in Self Denial, Who Can't Admit They Were Wrong and Therefore Have Descended into Delusion

But it's not as catchy.

Posted by: Marcus T, Doesn't Play Well with others, apparently at October 17, 2017 02:38 PM (brsgu)

479 >>>Ever figure out what the hell was behind the wall that was stopping your drill-bit?

Skull of a dead hooker?

...

I think it's a metal stud that I didn't have the screws to get through.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:38 PM (8rNrN)

480 I don't what people call Trump as long as he keeps to his current path.

What's next, Melania is ugly?

Posted by: Meremortal, with hand over heart at October 17, 2017 02:38 PM (3myMJ)

481 401
In fairness, Trump isn't really a conservative, and is only nominally a
Republican. Yet, he is accomplishing actually conservative things that
the Conservative Movement(TM) has failed to accomplish in twenty years.

Abso-fucking-lutely. And Conservatives shouldn't be afraid of a little out-sourcing if it helps advance the cause...

I still stop short of the bended-knee adoration of our god-emporer that some employ. He is our CEO and we are the Board of Directors. We praise him when he does things right and give him shit when he f**ks up to get him back in line.

Posted by: Cranky Librarian at October 17, 2017 02:38 PM (4Vu64)

482 469 Bush I:

"Kinder, gentler nation"
"A thousand points of light"
"READ MY LIPS: NO NEW TAXES"

One term and then we got Slick and Hillary.
Posted by: mrp at October 17, 2017 02:37 PM (Pqytn)

==============

Without walking back that promise, would Perot have entered the race in 1992?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2017 02:38 PM (0eoFj)

483 I would gladly trade all the social programs we have for open borders.

I wouldn't. You'll end up with Venezuela. It takes several generations for immigrants to understand what the founders intended. Usually, they want big government because they still want to live in the shadow of the castle. They'd vote for progressives, welfare or no. Meditate on what happened to the North east after importing millions of irish who though in terms of european models of government; ie the lord and the serfs.

Posted by: dagny at October 17, 2017 02:38 PM (6oU5/)

484 Allahpundit - when he was great ...

"Behold!"

What happened to that guy?

Posted by: mrp at October 17, 2017 02:39 PM (Pqytn)

485 Never go full MUMR.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 17, 2017 02:39 PM (tbOMB)

486 I wonder - a lot, lately - if Michelle Malkin regrets leaving Hot Air with AP in charge.

No.

Posted by: Michelle Malkin's bank account at October 17, 2017 02:39 PM (cHbmY)

487 476
Yeah, that would be ideal. Government so small and fixated on state's rights that you barely notice them. That's what they are supposed to do and be. Well, we can dream.

But I'd be careful around the unicorn. They murder non-virgins.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 02:38 PM (39g3+)

==============

"State's rights?"

That means you want Jim Crow!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2017 02:39 PM (0eoFj)

488
You don't have to adore or despise Trump. Like what he does that's good, oppose the stuff that's bad. He's not perfect or a demon.

Thank you for that very reasonable, sensible opinion.

And welcome to Club Blasphemy for questioning the Divine Perfection of His Holiness.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 17, 2017 02:39 PM (nxsfe)

489 I got a kick out of this:

179 I gave u Hotair a long time ago. Ace and allah were always #1 and #2 reads. But that other place got progressively more obnoxious. Well, we'll always have the photoshops. Hard to believe that was like 10 years ago
Posted by: brak at October 17, 2017 02:01 PM (WjCgM)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

You could switch it around - Hotair got obnoxiously more progressive!!!

Don't read it anymore, so I can't really offer an opinion on Sexton, but Jazz is OK, nothing more. A little too old-guardish with quite a bit of social conservative leanings. I'm really not a fan of people who bitch and complain about the culture wars with really nothing to offer as a solution. Yes, a lot of problems do stem from the breakdown of the traditional family, especially among minorities in the inner cities. AND.... ?

That kind of thing is used as the justification of all manner of social conservative nonsense, none of which has any chance of ever being enacted into law AND which would not do a damn thing to reverse the trend.

A lot like the abortion issue. Used to whip the base, so to speak, into a frenzy, but not something anyone is really serious about changing, even if they could - which they can't. I don't need to hear about how some potential SCOTUS nominee might help chip away at Roe v. Wade. Sorry, not a fan of abortion, but also not a fan of tilting at windmills at this point. There are many, far more important hills to fight on at this point without intentionally pointing the entire wrath of the leftard "war on women" crowd our direction.

Posted by: deadrody at October 17, 2017 02:39 PM (FvbGP)

490 I still stop short of the bended-knee adoration of our god-emporer that some employ.

Yeah, I don't like that either. I prefer to root for him like I would the boxer in the ring I put my money on. Hit him again, Don, HARDER!

Posted by: dagny at October 17, 2017 02:39 PM (6oU5/)

491 Allahpundits real name needs be outed already. Let that pissfuck of a taint licker spend the rest of his days hiding in obscurity.

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at October 17, 2017 02:39 PM (+dsLj)

492 >>>I think it's a metal stud that I didn't have the screws to get through.

Better open up the wall to make sure.

If you can do shelves, you can do this. Just do it. Trust me.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 17, 2017 02:40 PM (iL1/8)

493 What a collection of gob-shites. Allahpundit drove me from Hot Air a year ago. I'm betting the same happened for a lot of people. I'd be surprised if they don't fold up the tent in the next year or so.

Posted by: Brad at October 17, 2017 02:40 PM (arypP)

494 "and then a different screen for like asteroids and the games that used that bright-line kind of screen."

Vector graphics!

Posted by: Chris M at October 17, 2017 02:40 PM (eAZVt)

495 Ace --

I have a bunch of coin-op consoles as well, bought after I sold my first book: a cocktail table pong, a two player Sprint, Rastan Warrior. This was prior to MAME, though. I may ditch those.

But I also have a "Bow and Arrow" pinball machine and I love the mechanical aspects. The relays, the spinners, the bumpers...can't get that from a video game. I wouldn't mind having a wall full of pre-LED pinball games.

Posted by: moviegique at October 17, 2017 02:40 PM (7zeA4)

496 19 When allahpundit gleefully kicked Ace off of his links page (or at least
cheered the decision to do so) that was it. Allahpundit, and his
cohorts, some of who I used to enjoy, like Ed, are dead to me.

Hmm, I did not know this. That could be because I haven't gone to HA in months and then, only because a cob linked to one of their articles, but still...

That's fucking petty.

*moons allahpundit*

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 17, 2017 02:40 PM (0ogQG)

497 So. A bunch of us have been saying for years that we need someone who runs as sort of centrist and maybe kinda of Dem lite and who then gets into office and surprise moves to the Right.

That person appears to be Trump.

Reality is always stranger than fiction because fiction has to make sense.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 17, 2017 02:40 PM (mf5HN)

498 Hello. Missed the whole thread. What did Stephen Hayes do? I always liked him. He's from Waukesha.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 17, 2017 02:40 PM (DLIpz)

499 444 >>> Although what I'd love to do is restore old pinball machines

sexton restores old video game machines. Buys the cabinets, pays a printer to print up the old trade dress (like for Defender or whatever). Then you can buy these cards that have like 200 or 300 classic arcade games on them.

He has two, or did have two (maybe he has more now). you need one screen for most games, and then a different screen for like asteroids and the games that used that bright-line kind of screen.

anyway, great way to burn your money!
Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:33 PM (8rNrN)

================

Vector Graphics games. The CRT is wired more like an
oscilloscope than a computer monitor or TV. Asteroids is the most well known, but the original Star Wars arcade game is another good example. And yes, that is a Moron worthy way to burn cash. Hope hes got a Neo Geo MVS as well. Alot can be done with those beasts!

Posted by: Jackal at October 17, 2017 02:40 PM (WW/Sc)

500 >>>Ever figure out what the hell was behind the wall that was stopping your drill-bit?

drill bit? that would imply he tried to drill a pilot hole.

Posted by: x at October 17, 2017 02:41 PM (nFwvY)

501 I follow a number of NeverTrumpers on Twitter, though I've purged the most toxic of that crew from my timeline. NeverTrumpers - just like pro-Trumpers - can and do contribute valid arguments to the so-called "marketplace of ideas." I have no problem with them, even if they can be cloying AF sometimes.

The only time I will block or ignore a NeverTrumper is if they start acting like anyone who voted for Trump is an idiot/racist/misogynist/Islamophobe/homophobe/toothless hick/backwards heathen. And I see that a lot. Those people do NOT contribute anything valuable to the conversation, anymore than do people who are slavishly pro-Trump and treat him like a God.

When Trump screws up I wince, but I don't start screaming about how he's doomed the republic. When he does something great I smile and high five, but I don't start calling him the Savior. He's a man, just like everyone else, and as long as he's exposing the rot behind the DC scenes, I'm happy to let him keep going.

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at October 17, 2017 02:41 PM (4df7R)

502
There's something about Timpf that makes me think very naughty,dirty thoughts.
Posted by: Bosk

And Howe!

Posted by: Shep Smith at October 17, 2017 02:41 PM (IqV8l)

503 >>>Ever figure out what the hell was behind the wall that was stopping your drill-bit?

Skull of a dead hooker?

Gas line?

Posted by: Under Fire at October 17, 2017 02:41 PM (mcI77)

504 Politics is downstream of culture. One has to keep an eye on it and notice it while there's time to rein it in.

Posted by: dagny at October 17, 2017 02:41 PM (6oU5/)

505 Posted by: Hollowpoint

Aren't you one of the ones who SWORE Trump couldn't win? Electability and all that shit was the reason I HAD to support Jeb or Little Marco?

Posted by: FITP at October 17, 2017 02:41 PM (QK1G1)

506 Gotta throw in the citizen variable into that equation as well.

If anyone can walk in, gain citizenship, and vote away our rights, then our nation has no meaning.

Open borders for visits, but closed borders for citizenship.
=========
I'd be cool with that.

As things stand--and again, I'm philosophically open borders--I think the smart play would be to actually close the borders completely for 20 years or so.

Posted by: moviegique at October 17, 2017 02:41 PM (7zeA4)

507 What a collection of gob-shites. Allahpundit drove me from Hot Air a year ago. I'm betting the same happened for a lot of people. I'd be surprised if they don't fold up the tent in the next year or so.

Moving to the Facebook comments accelerated the decline, I think. Though by that time I would look there like once every three months, and then only via link from AoSHQ.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at October 17, 2017 02:41 PM (tVWQB)

508 Salon. Isn't that like Vanity Fair but without the Weinstein?

Posted by: wth at October 17, 2017 02:41 PM (HgMAr)

509 109 "True enough. I was just wondering what her 2 tricks were. But now I get it!"

It means she has big titties!!!

Posted by: Ben Rothlesberger at October 17, 2017 02:41 PM (GdJ+p)

510 I demand Ace post about Syria!
Trump is the devil!

Posted by: FullMetalJacket at October 17, 2017 02:42 PM (YjLwR)

511 >>So. A bunch of us have been saying for years that we need someone who
runs as sort of centrist and maybe kinda of Dem lite and who then gets
into office and surprise moves to the Right.

Wow, hadn't realized it - that's what happened.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 17, 2017 02:42 PM (W+vEI)

512 Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 17, 2017 02:40 PM (mf5HN)

Except he ran as far right as any candidate has in sometime which of course was contrary to his history which is what gave many reasonable people pause.

Posted by: Time right before Mad Max at October 17, 2017 02:42 PM (Q0dwZ)

513 Without walking back that promise, would Perot have entered the race in 1992?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2017 02:38 PM (0eoFj)

=========================
If Bush I had fulfilled his No Taxes, pledge, he wouldn't have been George Bush I.

Posted by: mrp at October 17, 2017 02:43 PM (Pqytn)

514 Allah just can't stand that nobody respects his jump to #TeamHillary.

Sorry, but it was obvious you were moving left when you hired Noah Rothman away from MediaITE.

Yeah, Rothman was the most right-leaning person at MediaITE, but that's like being the world's tallest midget.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 17, 2017 02:43 PM (Vevy5)

515 I take it Bret "2A is for fetishists" Stephens didn't crack the list??

He must be heart-broken that his leap to the NYT AND his complete 180 on anything and everything bares no acknowledgement or accolades from his new Salon fans.

Posted by: Carlos Danger at October 17, 2017 02:43 PM (ce4vQ)

516 Miramax put out some great stuff

Pulp Fiction
Heavenly Creatures
The Secret Policeman's Other Ball
Bullets over Broadway
Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood
Jackie Brown

It also put out stuff like Reservoir Dogs, No Country For Old Men, etc.

the problem is, it also put out tons of those artsy nude movies about lots of sex and perversion that won tons of awards for being artsy and foreign so the awful stuff was okay like Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down! and Prospero's Books

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 02:43 PM (39g3+)

517 Monday Night Football ratings FELL to season low last night. BWA HA HA.

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 17, 2017 02:43 PM (iWemg)

518 In fairness, Trump isn't really a conservative, and is only nominally a
Republican. Yet, he is accomplishing actually conservative things that
the Conservative Movement(TM) has failed to accomplish in twenty years.
***
Trump is a moderate Democrat from the mid 80s.

Which means by modern standards of the Uniparty that he is a far right wing extremist.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2017 02:44 PM (eSx+E)

519 >>>And get a Klingon Bat'leth to put up...

one day...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guandao

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:44 PM (8rNrN)

520 Ed at HotAir is not that bad, but he's a Catholic so a lot of conservative Protestants have problems with him, especially when he defends Pope Francis.

He's not much of a catholic if he defends Francis.

Posted by: dagny at October 17, 2017 02:44 PM (6oU5/)

521 The only columnist I follow with any regularity is Kurt Schlichter on Townhall.

I used to read Kevin Williams on National Review up until the time he stared dumping on Deplorables.

Posted by: ALH at October 17, 2017 02:44 PM (uLuPn)

522 It will be interesting to see what happens in next year's midterms. If Trump gets rid of Nafta, the rust belt will be his for some time.

Posted by: greg at October 17, 2017 02:44 PM (UV7qc)

523 >>>Ever figure out what the hell was behind the wall that was stopping your drill-bit?
..............

I keep telling him it was gold bars or some other hidden treasure. Gotta tear out all the sheetrock.

Posted by: wth at October 17, 2017 02:44 PM (HgMAr)

524
...which is what gave many reasonable people pause.

The same dunces who floated the idiotic theory that Donald Trump was a straw candidate to help his pal hillary win.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 02:44 PM (ANIVY)

525 >>So. A bunch of us have been saying for years that we need someone who runs as sort of centrist and maybe kinda of Dem lite and who then gets into office and surprise moves to the Right.

I don't think Trump ran as Dem lite at all. He ran on a couple major things like building a wall which got him branded as a racist and gutting Obamacare which is about as far from Dem lite as you can get and putting real conservative justices on the SC.

I didn't believe at first that he meant a word of what he said because of his history which was pretty much a 180 of what he ran on but he has been pleasantly surprising.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2017 02:45 PM (/tuJf)

526 517 Monday Night Football ratings FELL to season low last night. BWA HA HA.
Posted by: #neverskankles at October 17, 2017 02:43 PM (iWemg)

==============

"It's the weather."
-Roger Goodell

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2017 02:45 PM (0eoFj)

527 Wow, hadn't realized it - that's what happened.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 17, 2017 02:42 PM (W+vEI)

Well, yes and no. He did run on issues that only the demonized alt-right would touch--immigration and a modicum of protectionism.

And just about every other GOP candidate--even Ted Cruz, who in many ways I preferred--were afraid to "speak truth to power" (I am using that leftist phrase to needle them) about the immigration mess.

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 17, 2017 02:45 PM (ujg0T)

528 I believe if you ask the average honest person whether Trump is Republican or Democrat on action, one might pause and say he just wants to get things done.

The man really doesn't fit into a particular mold and is willing to cross lines to move the ball.

It's refreshing he has an opinion. Instead of like Fredo who despised the average person and then lied to their face.

Posted by: Marcus T, Doesn't Play Well with others, apparently at October 17, 2017 02:45 PM (brsgu)

529 Tami, now we have a list of sites to send NeverTrumper trolls to when they become boring to play with, yay! Unexpected gift from Salon, that.

Posted by: LizLem at October 17, 2017 02:45 PM (hvf9s)

530 ...He is our CEO and we are the Board of Directors. We praise him when he does things right and give him shit when he f**ks up to get him back in line.

Posted by: Cranky Librarian at October 17, 2017 02:38 PM (4Vu64)

^This.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at October 17, 2017 02:46 PM (T71PA)

531 >>>I keep telling him it was gold bars or some other hidden treasure. Gotta tear out all the sheetrock.

YEP!!!! It will be like DaVinci code or those Nicolas Cage movies!!! DO IT!!! DO IT RIGHT NOW!!! FUCK POSTING!!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 17, 2017 02:46 PM (iL1/8)

532 518
In fairness, Trump isn't really a conservative, and is only nominally a

Republican. Yet, he is accomplishing actually conservative things that

the Conservative Movement(TM) has failed to accomplish in twenty years.
***
Trump is a moderate Democrat from the mid 80s.

Which means by modern standards of the Uniparty that he is a far right wing extremist.

--------

And the best part is that his ego can't stand criticism! So every time the left ratchets up the Trump = HitlerIncarnet meme, it means he gets more conservative... and I just smile and smile :-D

Posted by: Cranky Librarian at October 17, 2017 02:46 PM (4Vu64)

533 >>>Hmm, I did not know this. That could be because I haven't gone to HA in months and then, only because a cob linked to one of their articles, but still...

That's fucking petty.

...

I didn't know this. Last time I bothered looking, I was still there.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:46 PM (8rNrN)

534 Without walking back that promise, would Perot have entered the race in 1992?

Yes. Perot hated Bush. Hated with the fire of ten thousand burning lunatic suns. His entire purpose was to stop Bush from being elected at all costs, no matter what. He didn't want to win. He just wanted to hurt the Bush family.

And that's how you get Clinton.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 02:46 PM (39g3+)

535 499 444 >>> Although what I'd love to do is restore old pinball machines

sexton restores old video game machines. Buys the cabinets, pays a printer to print up the old trade dress (like for Defender or whatever). Then you can buy these cards that have like 200 or 300 classic arcade games on them.

He has two, or did have two (maybe he has more now). you need one screen for most games, and then a different screen for like asteroids and the games that used that bright-line kind of screen.

anyway, great way to burn your money!
Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:33 PM (8rNrN)

================

Vector Graphics games. The CRT is wired more like an
oscilloscope than a computer monitor or TV. Asteroids is the most well known, but the original Star Wars arcade game is another good example. And yes, that is a Moron worthy way to burn cash. Hope hes got a Neo Geo MVS as well. Alot can be done with those beasts!
Posted by: Jackal at October 17, 2017 02:40 PM (WW/Sc)

BattleZone. That was my go to game for years, until it sudddenly disappeared.

Posted by: West at October 17, 2017 02:46 PM (1Rgee)

536
A bunch of us have been saying for years that we need someone who runs as sort of centrist and maybe kinda of Dem lite and who then gets into office and surprise moves to the Right.

That person appears to be Trump.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 17, 2017 02:40 PM (mf5HN)

Sometimes I say nothing about something I detect because I don't want the Dems to figure out a counter-strategy. You're correct but... I don't want to say anything.

I believe in jinxing stuff. I don't want to jinx this. So far, so go.

*knocks on wood*
*throws salt over left shoulder*
*lights candles in extremely modest DJT shrine*

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 17, 2017 02:46 PM (EgwCt)

537
"It's the weather."

-Roger Goodell
====

Global Warming is eating the NFL. It's science, people.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 17, 2017 02:46 PM (2wRtc)

538 I used to be a Detroit Lions fan, but then they turned out to be as prog as the 49ers. No thanks and no more.

Posted by: mrp at October 17, 2017 02:46 PM (Pqytn)

539
The only Republican position Ana Navaro ever shows on fake news cnn is on her knees to her Democrat counterparts.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 02:47 PM (ANIVY)

540 In fairness, Trump isn't really a conservative, and is only nominally a
Republican. Yet, he is accomplishing actually conservative things that
the Conservative Movement(TM) has failed to accomplish in twenty years.

Abso-fucking-lutely. And Conservatives shouldn't be afraid of a little out-sourcing if it helps advance the cause...

I still stop short of the bended-knee adoration of our god-emporer that some employ. He is our CEO and we are the Board of Directors. We praise him when he does things right and give him shit when he f**ks up to get him back in line.
Posted by: Cranky Librarian

Trump is an American nationalist. This is deadly anathema to a lot of self-styled intellectuals, because they want to be Citizens of the World, while being Americans and enjoying the life of an American, without doing any of the heavy lifting.
Yes, thank these people for NOTHING. They would and have sold a lot of Americans and American ideals down the river to be in the internationalist club of smart people. Dicks, more like it.
Lets let in every Mexican that wants to be here.
Let's let in every Muslim that wants to be here.
Let's give everything away, because their need (whoever) trumps my right to my life and what I make for myself.

By his nature, Trump has certain conservative ideals, though he is not an intellectual conservative. He is a pragmatist (and traditionalist) in many ways, which has a history in American politics (and not always good). He is not a Progressive.

Trump made campaign promises to get elected, and he is trying to actually fulfill them.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....junior assistant Redneck Deathsquad Ninja.... at October 17, 2017 02:47 PM (vcOmj)

541 Regarding Trump as a true conservative. I agree, he's not. But one thing I liked about him is that he doesn't feel the need of all the center-lings to punch right all the time.

To me this is where "virtue signalling" came in. And it was pretty much the libertarians wanting the left to know that they weren't as crazy and icky as the people to the right of them.

I always thought that was a stupid move. I always had a lot of disdain for people who saw what the left did to people, whose answer was to turn and join in with the left on people farther right (because I kind of came through that problem in grade school).

Posted by: Axeman at October 17, 2017 02:47 PM (2mC6G)

542 537
"It's the weather."

-Roger Goodell
====

Global Warming is eating the NFL. It's science, people.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 17, 2017 02:46 PM (2wRtc)

============

Weather = climate.

Today, that is.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2017 02:47 PM (0eoFj)

543 FBN is running a News Alert:

BIPARTISAN HC DEAL REACHED

Betsy McCaughey on now...says it's a bad deal.

Posted by: Tami at October 17, 2017 02:47 PM (Enq6K)

544 521 The only columnist I follow with any regularity is Kurt Schlichter on Townhall.

I used to read Kevin Williams on National Review up until the time he stared dumping on Deplorables.

Posted by: ALH at October 17, 2017 02:44 PM (uLuPn)

Which is disappointing, since wasn't Williamson the one who exposed the whole Jackie Coakley UVA story as one gigantic fvcking lie?

Posted by: Hikaru at October 17, 2017 02:47 PM (Vevy5)

545 >>>>remember the DEWEY DECIMAL SYSTEM?

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover<<<<

The caps aren't random enough.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at October 17, 2017 02:47 PM (3DZIZ)

546 411 Hillsdale is a real college? I thought it was just one of those online things that buys ads on talk radio.
---

Totally real.

Brick and mortar conservative school in MI with no federal funds IIRC.
Posted by: shibumi at October 17, 2017 02:30 PM (aT+Bx)

Founded 1844.

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 17, 2017 02:47 PM (NWiLs)

547 I've got a little list -- I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed-- who never would be missed!

...that Nisi Prius nuisance, who just now is rather rife,
The Judicial humorist -- I've got him on the list!
All funny fellows, comic men, and clowns of private life --
They'd none of 'em be missed -- they'd none of 'em be missed.
And apologetic statesmen of a compromising kind,
Such as -- What d'ye call him -- Thing'em-bob, and likewise -- Never-mind,
And 'St-- 'st-- 'st-- and What's-his-name, and also You-know-who --
The task of filling up the blanks I'd rather leave to you.
But it really doesn't matter whom you put upon the list,
For they'd none of 'em be missed -- they'd none of 'em be missed!

Posted by: Ko Ko the Lord High Executioner at October 17, 2017 02:48 PM (hvf9s)

548 The Dems really f***** up. if they had given Trump a little respect and said hey we can work with you they probably could have done a lot of things that they wanted. But going full Trump equals Hitler they blew their opportunity

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 17, 2017 02:48 PM (iWemg)

549 Funny how there is no comparable list of DINO bloggers that "Ace readers would enjoy".

They're all shades of Commie now, Mommy.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 17, 2017 02:48 PM (PkCzL)

550 548 The Dems really f***** up. if they had given Trump a little respect and said hey we can work with you they probably could have done a lot of things that they wanted. But going full Trump equals Hitler they blew their opportunity
Posted by: #neverskankles at October 17, 2017 02:48 PM (iWemg)

============

Him losing the popular vote might have been the best thing for us.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2017 02:49 PM (0eoFj)

551 531. Crazed though he be, BSG is dead-on right.

Always, always, rip out the sheetrock.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at October 17, 2017 02:49 PM (fA1SL)

552 BattleZone. That was my go to game for years, until it sudddenly disappeared.
Posted by: West at October 17, 2017 02:46 PM (1Rgee)

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Oh yeah, thats a damn good one too. They had unique cabinets IIRC. One of those games where you need the cabinet to get the full experience.

Posted by: Jackal at October 17, 2017 02:49 PM (WW/Sc)

553
hillary didn't get more legit votes.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 02:49 PM (ANIVY)

554 one day...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guandao

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:44 PM (8rNrN)

We now know what to get ace for Christmas.

Posted by: Tami at October 17, 2017 02:49 PM (Enq6K)

555

Ouch!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 17, 2017 02:49 PM (fceHP)

556 Sites I won't link to or retweet because I don't trust their content:

Gateway Pundit
Infowars
Hot Air

Seriously. I'll visit links to HA, but only to follow their own embedded links to outside news sources, never for their interpretation of that news.

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at October 17, 2017 02:49 PM (4df7R)

557 411 Hillsdale is a real college? I thought it was just one of those online things that buys ads on talk radio.
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Totally real.

Brick and mortar conservative school in MI with no federal funds IIRC.
Posted by: shibumi at October 17, 2017 02:30 PM (aT+Bx)

Founded 1844.
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And I recently heard they are opening a charter school(s?).

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 17, 2017 02:49 PM (vg8iE)

558 Dan Flynn had a theory that conservatism is not really an ideology, but more like an absence of it.

Trump would fit that.

Posted by: Axeman at October 17, 2017 02:49 PM (2mC6G)

559 I thought Hillsdale accepted gold coins for tuition.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at October 17, 2017 02:50 PM (tVWQB)

560 369 I always hated Allahpundit. Even waaay back before the 08 election. He's a twerp who acts like a douche.

Posted by: dagny at October 17, 2017 02:25 PM (6oU5/)

His humor blog "Allah is in the House" was hilarious, IMO. When he started blogging at HA he stopped being funny and started being snarky - to his own readers. I remember he posted an article about pro-atheist billboards going up somewhere and said "excellent! This is a great movement and should get larger!" It was obviously baiting his own readers and I thought of him chuckling as he read the outraged responses. I hate when bloggers troll their own readers - it looks so contemptuous to me.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 17, 2017 02:50 PM (ZM2xo)

561
I would say 5 out of every 100 votes for a Democrat are fraudulent.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 17, 2017 02:50 PM (ANIVY)

562 He's not much of a catholic if he defends Francis.

You're not much of a Catholic if you deliberately refuse to call him Pope Francis.

Posted by: p0sTpWnEd at October 17, 2017 02:50 PM (Rks3h)

563 One of the most entertaining ironies of the current political situation is that Trump was *never* much of a conservative, and yet the left is turning him INTO a conservative, probably because they *need* a hard core conservative threat to use to motivate their base.

Trump is the kind of leader who loves praise, gives great benefits to those who work with him and help him, but who also counterpunches very hard and goes after anyone who tries to block him and tear him down.

This is nothing new, it is a very very old and success model, it is purely ideological leadership that doesn't react to circumstances that is the oddity.

If the left and the GOP-e would have sucked up to Trump and tried to make him look good, he would have been falling all over himself doing them favors back. BUT by going after him and trying to deligitimize him, they have pushed him into fighting back as hard as he can, and the BEST way he can fight back is by mobilizing and empowering their enemies - namely, us.

We are the beneficiaries of their stupidity. We shouldn't deny how we got Trump's support, but at the same time we should rejoice in it and use it to get as much mileage out of it for as long as we can.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2017 02:50 PM (k1TUh)

564 Seriously. I'll visit links to HA, but only to follow their own embedded links to outside news sources, never for their interpretation of that news.
Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at October 17, 2017 02:49 PM (4df7R)

I get so annoyed with myself when I'm not paying attention to where a link goes and accidentally click on an Infowars link.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 17, 2017 02:50 PM (mf5HN)

565 David French and to some extent, Goldberg, were scared stupid by a bunch of pimply faced progressive 19 year old pretend "nazis" who made cyberwar on them. They bought it hook, line and sinker. They then associated the "nazi" threat with Trump (which was the point) and reacted accordingly.

Posted by: dagny at October 17, 2017 02:29 PM (6oU5/)

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Interesting. I've never been a big reader of NRO or HA, and I'd been wondering why people like Goldberg, who have written some good stuff against liberals (and Hillary) would go #NeverTrumper. Like, is it because they do not like his person? His position on trade? There's nothing really that he's supported that would make him more objectionable than Hillary.

And if they want to link him with nazis... What about Obama and Jeremiah Wright? He actually attended that church for 20 years.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 17, 2017 02:51 PM (/qEW2)

566 I'm consistently amazed that people could look at Trump and say "Never Trump!" and those same people can look at Hillary Clinton and think "Now, her I like!"

Trump may be crude on many ways, but Hillary is downright evil.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 17, 2017 02:51 PM (l9m7l)

567 Trump is a moderate Democrat from the mid 80s.

Which means by modern standards of the Uniparty that he is a far right wing extremist.

Yep. There are several fun games I like to play with leftists based on this idea.

One is to take any JFK quote that mentions faith, nationalism, duty, honor, etc and attribute it to one of the left's "hard right" bete noirs.

They will foam at the mouth and point out this is proof of how hard right the party has turned.

Then you reveal it's a JFK quote. Eye popping and flailing arms are guaranteed.

Another fun one is to ask them to compare GOP party platforms from Reagan's day and Trump. Ask them to point out the policies that have changed that prove the GOP has taken a hard right turn.

Usually this one is too much work, and they will simply quote some GOP politician as "proof" they're hard right. Nevermind the quote is usually indistinguishable from any number of leftists from the '60s.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 17, 2017 02:51 PM (jhqr1)

568 >>We now know what to get ace for Christmas.

He'll put his eye out.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2017 02:51 PM (/tuJf)

569 373 Timpf apparently had a really ugly breakup, which prompted Gutfeld's schtick with her.

It is getting old though.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 17, 2017 02:25 PM (ul9CR)
...............

What did she break up with, cheeseburgers?

Posted by: wth at October 17, 2017 02:51 PM (HgMAr)

570 Posted by: Ko Ko the Lord High Executioner at October 17, 2017 02:48 PM (hvf9s)
======================

I'll wait for the Three Little Maids number. The program notes say the parts will be played by Susan Collins, Nancy Pelosi, and Murky. Should be a gas.

Posted by: mrp at October 17, 2017 02:51 PM (Pqytn)

571 By his nature, Trump has certain conservative ideals, though he is not
an intellectual conservative. He is a pragmatist (and traditionalist)
in many ways, which has a history in American politics (and not always
good). He is not a Progressive.

Yep. This ^ 1000

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at October 17, 2017 02:51 PM (4df7R)

572 I highly recommend Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology by Ayn Rand.

Or just leave it lying around to watch mouth breathers try to sound out the title.

Posted by: Mostly Harmless Lurker in you backyard at night at October 17, 2017 02:51 PM (1L9V9)

573 Crazed though he be, BSG is dead-on right.

Always, always, rip out the sheetrock.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at October 17, 2017 02:49 PM (fA1SL)

How else are you going to find out that termites have eaten all your studs and your house is in imminent danger of collapse?

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 17, 2017 02:51 PM (EgwCt)

574 What did she break up with, cheeseburgers?
Posted by: wth at October 17, 2017 02:51 PM (HgMAr)

There are better options, Ms. Timpf.

Posted by: Hotdogs at October 17, 2017 02:52 PM (72PAC)

575 I drifted away from AoSHQ because of Ace defending Allah Pundit. AP has a pedantic patrician prose that pisses me off even if I agree with his basic point. These people that Salon approves of. What is their defining principles? Other than power as the not Dem party.

Posted by: BrianInNC at October 17, 2017 02:52 PM (Z1Lja)

576 Infowars

Has anyone noticed the rightward move--and improved investigative quality there, perhaps not coincidentally?

Alex Jones is sounding righter and righter than ever. I know, 9/11 troofers and all that, but otherwise maybe they weren't so wacky after all?

The young British man whose name escapes me who makes video commentary there is spot-on.

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 17, 2017 02:52 PM (ujg0T)

577 557 411 Hillsdale is a real college? I thought it was just one of those online things that buys ads on talk radio.
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Totally real.

Brick and mortar conservative school in MI with no federal funds IIRC.
Posted by: shibumi at October 17, 2017 02:30 PM (aT+Bx)

Founded 1844.
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And I recently heard they are opening a charter school(s?).
Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 17, 2017 02:49 PM (vg8iE)

I believe that's correct.

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 17, 2017 02:52 PM (NWiLs)

578 573. And don't forget - you can use the bare framing members as supports. Built-in shelves, my dudes!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at October 17, 2017 02:52 PM (fA1SL)

579 >>>>remember the DEWEY DECIMAL SYSTEM?

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover

Actually, I keep my books in Dewey. About 1,500 of them.

Posted by: moviegique at October 17, 2017 02:52 PM (7zeA4)

580 Late to the party on this one but for all of John Podhoretz's dipshitty fuckface political views, he's probably my favorite movie reviewer in terms of similar tastes.

Very happy to see that smug eunuch, AllahPoundsIt, getting roundly slattered.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 17, 2017 02:53 PM (y7DUB)

581 And I recently heard they are opening a charter school(s?).

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 17, 2017 02:49 PM (vg8iE)

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Great. Michigan charter schools are a disaster zone. Down twinkles for DeVos [and] company on that.

Posted by: RioBravo at October 17, 2017 02:53 PM (SsblQ)

582 546
411 Hillsdale is a real college? I thought it was just one of those online things that buys ads on talk radio.

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Totally real.

Brick and mortar conservative school in MI with no federal funds IIRC.

Posted by: shibumi at October 17, 2017 02:30 PM (aT+Bx)

Founded 1844.

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Shhh... don't talk sense to the malcontents. They just want to comment on the blog instead of volunteering as a Scoutmaster who could retain conservative values in a troop, a Deacon of a Church who could advance Christain values in the community, or a member of a Community Organization that could help people in ways that the Welfare State cannot. It's far more important to comment on a blog to dismiss all the imperfect organization than to actually be a part of making them better!

Posted by: Cranky Librarian at October 17, 2017 02:53 PM (4Vu64)

583 Sites I won't link to or retweet because I don't trust their content:

Gateway Pundit
Infowars
Hot Air
___
You forgot CNN

Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2017 02:53 PM (eSx+E)

584
Posted by: Hollowpoint
_____________________

Call me!

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at October 17, 2017 02:53 PM (0mskG)

585 >>>How else are you going to find out that termites have eaten all your studs and your house is in imminent danger of collapse?

You have to destroy termites with fire. A steady stream.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 17, 2017 02:54 PM (iL1/8)

586 a unicorn and to be able to reach the second set of ace's shelves.

Phase IV is putting so many in that there's no room left to fall over.
This may be the only sure way to keep them on the wall.
Or how you get ants.

Posted by: DaveA at October 17, 2017 02:54 PM (FhXTo)

587 499 Hope hes got a Neo Geo MVS as well. Alot can be done with those beasts!
Posted by: Jackal at October 17, 2017 02:40 PM (WW/Sc)

There's finally a Neo-Geo MVS SD-capable Flash Cart now.

$530, but a lot cheaper than trying to build up a large library otherwise.

Even someone like me could get that kind of money together.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 17, 2017 02:54 PM (Vevy5)

588 Which is disappointing, since wasn't Williamson the
one who exposed the whole Jackie Coakley UVA story as one gigantic
fvcking lie?

Posted by: Hikaru at October 17, 2017 02:47 PM (Vevy5)

I think that was Richard Bradley.

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at October 17, 2017 02:54 PM (4df7R)

589 562 He's not much of a catholic if he defends Francis.

You're not much of a Catholic if you deliberately refuse to call him Pope Francis.
Posted by: p0sTpWnEd at October 17, 2017 02:50 PM (Rks3h)

I'm not a Catholic so fuck Francis. He's just a man. A South American socialist man.

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 17, 2017 02:54 PM (NWiLs)

590 Sure, assholes. Leave me out. And don't forget my middle name, Erick, either when you add me to the list.

Posted by: erick erick erickson in the redstate bunker at October 17, 2017 02:54 PM (mJ8mX)

591 You're not much of a Catholic if you deliberately refuse to call him Pope Francis.

Posted by: p0sTpWnEd at October 17, 2017 02:50 PM (Rks3h)

My guess is you are not Catholic at all. Just some prog asswipe.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 17, 2017 02:55 PM (ZM2xo)

592 Goldberg is the really odd neverTrumper. The Clinton's would have clipped his mom if they thought they'd get away with it.

Posted by: x at October 17, 2017 02:55 PM (nFwvY)

593 It also put out stuff like Reservoir Dogs, No Country For Old Men, etc.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 02:43 PM (39g3+)
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Reservoir Dogs was okay, but I really liked No Country. It's odd as a Coen brothers' movie though. Big Fan of Coens.

Posted by: Axeman at October 17, 2017 02:55 PM (2mC6G)

594 Funny how there is no comparable list of DINO bloggers that "Ace readers would enjoy".
They're all shades of Commie now, Mommy.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 17, 2017 02:48 PM (PkCzL)

The "Democrat" commenters I most enjoy are Youtubers like David Rubin and Sargon of Akkad. I'd call them libertarians, but they identify as liberal dems (or in Sargon's case the UK version of that.) Despite the fact their party left them, so to speak, to go full regressive, and they are now shunned.

Posted by: LizLem at October 17, 2017 02:55 PM (hvf9s)

595 We now know what to get ace for Christmas.

Posted by: Tami at October 17, 2017 02:49 PM (Enq6K)

Speaking of... I can send Amazon credits to people now through either an email address or a phone number text message.

Ace, you feel like giving us one of them?

It can even be a 'burner' email address.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 17, 2017 02:55 PM (EgwCt)

596 Nood. NFL

Posted by: tu3031 at October 17, 2017 02:55 PM (O5Q3r)

597 Trump is the kind of leader who loves praise, gives great benefits to those who work with him and help him, but who also counterpunches very hard and goes after anyone who tries to block him and tear him down.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2017 02:50 PM (k1TUh)

I remember watching Trump's speech upon his beating Hillary like a rented red headed step mule and he made a point to call out people by name, make sure they were on stage and asking people to cheer for them.

I thought that's a boss move. That's how he built up his business. It was the big end of year company shindig or the big party after closing a huge deal and the boss making sure people got acknowledged for hard work because, hey, if you work hard, this can be you next year.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 17, 2017 02:56 PM (mf5HN)

598 Phase IV is putting so many in that there's no room left to fall over.
This may be the only sure way to keep them on the wall.
Or how you get ants.

Posted by: DaveA at October 17, 2017 02:54 PM (FhXTo)

===============
Phase V is selecting shelf paper!

Posted by: mrp at October 17, 2017 02:56 PM (Pqytn)

599 The Catholic Church has had shitty popes before. They have one now.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 17, 2017 02:56 PM (ZM2xo)

600 Nood football fail

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at October 17, 2017 02:56 PM (tVWQB)

601 That list should be entitled "People with some flimsy connection to the political right who will tweet bad things about Trump, believe in AGW and favor the ACA."

Posted by: Timon at October 17, 2017 02:56 PM (NTM5E)

602 You're not much of a Catholic if you deliberately refuse to call him Pope Francis.
Posted by: p0sTpWnEd at October 17, 2017 02:50 PM (Rks3h)
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Lighten up, Francis.

Posted by: That Guy at October 17, 2017 02:56 PM (2mC6G)

603 "Him losing the popular vote might have been the best thing for us.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison"

Hillary did not win he poplar vote, she got the largest percentage but lass that 50%,, if you can believe the numbers. In a system based on winning the popular vote there would to be a run-off against the top two candidates. Liberals are idiots for spewing that line about winning the popular vote. Well, just idiots generally.

Posted by: Ripley at October 17, 2017 02:56 PM (MxEKc)

604 568 >>We now know what to get ace for Christmas.

He'll put his eye out.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2017 02:51 PM (/tuJf)

LMAO!!

Posted by: Tami at October 17, 2017 02:56 PM (Enq6K)

605 O.K. I have no dog in this fight, as I'm not Roman Catholic, but what makes someone "much" of a Roman Catholic?. I think it would not be limited to what someone thinks of the pronouncements of Pope Francis.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 17, 2017 02:57 PM (iVOAv)

606 I'm a Protestant with 500 years of Reformation in my purse, so I just call him Frank. He seems like a nice man. Maybe just not theologically sound. IMPO.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 17, 2017 02:57 PM (DLIpz)

607 >>Goldberg is the really odd neverTrumper. The Clinton's would have clipped his mom if they thought they'd get away with it.

Another factor that makes Never Trumpers Never Trumpers is that he doesn't play the normal DC game. He has blown it up and is doing things his way, a way most of them said would never work.

Who needs a pundit who makes his entire life telling us great unwashed how the game works when the game isn't being played?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2017 02:57 PM (/tuJf)

608 581
And I recently heard they are opening a charter school(s?).

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 17, 2017 02:49 PM (vg8iE)

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Great. Michigan charter schools are a disaster zone. Down twinkles for DeVos [and] company on that.

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#FakeNews The Michigan Charter Schools are only a "failure" in comparison to the standards that all other schools must adhere to... and all the other schools in Michigan are "failures" too.

In reality, if you look at the overall performance of students who come out of Michigan Charter Schools compared to Public Schools, they have better success among their peers! It's not the best in the world - much of which can be blamed on the regulations that Charter Schools must follow in Michigan... but it's progress.

Imagine what a truly Free Market of K-12 Schools could provide without the hindrance of Teacher's Unions and busybody regulators!

Posted by: Cranky Librarian at October 17, 2017 02:58 PM (4Vu64)

609 Aren't you one of the ones who SWORE Trump couldn't win? Electability and all that shit was the reason I HAD to support Jeb or Little Marco?

Yes, except I wasn't a Jeb or Rubio supporter.

I was in the "all the remaining candidates suck but Trump is unacceptable" camp. I didn't think he could win, and like most I was very wrong.

I'll give him credit where due, but not at the expense of pretending he's a particularly good person or President.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 17, 2017 02:58 PM (nxsfe)

610 562 He's not much of a catholic if he defends Francis.

You're not much of a Catholic if you deliberately refuse to call him Pope Francis.
Posted by: p0sTpWnEd at October 17, 2017 02:50 PM (Rks3h)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And you're not making much of a compelling argument by possibly the most pathetic appeal to authority in history. "The Pope" indeed.

Posted by: deadrody at October 17, 2017 02:58 PM (FvbGP)

611 Interesting. I've never been a big reader of NRO or HA, and I'd been wondering why people like Goldberg, who have written some good stuff against liberals (and Hillary) would go #NeverTrumper. Like, is it because they do not like his person? His position on trade? There's nothing really that he's supported that would make him more objectionable than Hillary.

And if they want to link him with nazis... What about Obama and Jeremiah Wright? He actually attended that church for 20 years.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 17, 2017 02:51 PM (/qEW2)

>>>It became apparent to me that Goldberg put his support behind the lesser of two evils when it came to "personal interests." He chose the known evil, but was threatened by the prospect of the populist nationalist Trump and his efforts to (1) undo Obama-era actions, and (2) would be proven to be more effective in executing many of the same Goldberg-approved conservative actions - but do it because it's rational and the right thing to-do, not because it fits under the confines of "conservative inc".

In short, the prospect of a madman, unrefined Trump scares the shit of Goldberg types because he is a brute, less ideological, but can be much more effective because what he does is based more on common-sense, and less on his sage advice.

This hurst Goldberg's bonafides, as his voice drifts more and more into the wind, while Trump marches forward without asking for his input hardly ever, if at all.

Posted by: Carlos Danger at October 17, 2017 02:58 PM (ce4vQ)

612 Dan Flynn had a theory that conservatism is not really an ideology, but more like an absence of it.

***
Kind of.

If you back to say 1776, there isn't much to ideology in the Western world.

You've got Divine Right of Kings...which didn't really have many adherents...combined with Hume (we need a strong ruler to stop the war of all against all) versus a basic notion of liberty that would explode that year in the US...

Within a few years though a mutated version of individual liberty gained sway in France. The problem you see, wasn't that you had nobles oppressing people, but that they just were oppressing people in new scientific ways.

And this is where ideology explodes onto the scene. People were willing to fight for their King...mostly because they got paid and he might kill you if you didn't...

But now you had people willing to risk their lives in the goal of *advancing* oppression. This ideology morphed many time before becoming the modern left...but the right has been a reaction against that ideology, just as it was a reaction versus monarchism in the 1700s.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2017 02:59 PM (eSx+E)

613 Aren't you one of the ones who SWORE Trump couldn't win? Electability and all that shit was the reason I HAD to support Jeb or Little Marco?

Posted by: FITP at October 17, 2017 02:41 PM (QK1G1)

Doesn't matter. Trump grabbed his pussy somehow, and he's been sore about it ever since.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 17, 2017 02:59 PM (tbOMB)

614 Allahpundit = Gen. George B. McClellan of bloggers.

OT: Why has no one called for statues of McClellan to be torn down? He was the best general the confederacy ever had.

Posted by: William Eaton at October 17, 2017 02:59 PM (MuTTO)

615 >>>but what makes someone "much" of a Roman Catholic?

Are you asking dagny?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 17, 2017 02:59 PM (iL1/8)

616 587 499 Hope hes got a Neo Geo MVS as well. Alot can be done with those beasts!
Posted by: Jackal at October 17, 2017 02:40 PM (WW/Sc)

There's finally a Neo-Geo MVS SD-capable Flash Cart now.

$530, but a lot cheaper than trying to build up a large library otherwise.

Even someone like me could get that kind of money together.
Posted by: Hikaru at October 17, 2017 02:54 PM (Vevy5)

============

Not suprised it took so long. They're more complex than the average cart. Emulation is kind of spotty too, the emulator I use on my PSP won't play some games if you don't have the cache pregenrated. Is it for the AES or MVS? The carts for the MVS are fairly cheap. Its AES carts that cost an arm and a leg.

Posted by: Jackal at October 17, 2017 02:59 PM (WW/Sc)

617 Guandao

Little big for the cheeseplate. Also likely to catch on the shelves.

Posted by: DaveA at October 17, 2017 02:59 PM (FhXTo)

618
Hillsdale is a real college? I thought it was just one of those online things that buys ads on talk radio.
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Totally real.

Brick and mortar conservative school in MI with no federal funds IIRC.

Posted by: shibumi at October 17, 2017 02:30 PM (aT+Bx)

If my kids had wanted to go to college, I would have talked them into going there.

Posted by: redbanzai at October 17, 2017 02:59 PM (xDKH6)

619 >>>I remember he posted an article about pro-atheist billboards going up somewhere and said "excellent! This is a great movement and should get larger!" It was obviously baiting his own readers and I thought of him chuckling as he read the outraged responses. I hate when bloggers troll their own readers - it looks so contemptuous to me.

yeah gotta love the constant atheism propaganda.

As an atheist/agnostic myself, I always thought that one of the chief benefits of not having a religion was, get this, not having a religion.

It seems to me that making a religion out of non-religion rather defeats the whole purpose of it, no?

As was said years and years ago, AllahPundit is the only blogger who trolls his own blog.

I don't get that. I really don't. If someone is reading you, and hence, paying your bills -- doesn't that make you the least little bit affectionate towards him?

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 03:00 PM (8rNrN)

620 My guess is you are not Catholic at all. Just some prog asswipe.

Posted by: Donna and V.

Not sure why you'd suggest that. I'm a Catholic so I respect Pope Francis. That's all you know so far, but I guess that's enough for some Protestants to assume I'm a liberal - the very problem I suggested already when I was mentioning Ed Morrissey. I happen to disagree with a lot of personal political positions held by Pope Francis, but he's the Pope nonetheless and will be until he dies or chooses not to be.

Posted by: p0sTpWnEd at October 17, 2017 03:00 PM (Rks3h)

621 The Dems really f***** up. if they had given Trump a little respect and said hey we can work with you they probably could have done a lot of things that they wanted.

Yep, it was amazing watching them do exactly the wrong thing and suffer for it. It was like they were trying to help us out or something. That year of throwing a screaming tantrum did more for the cause of conservatism than 50 Ronald Reagans.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 03:01 PM (39g3+)

622 562 He's not much of a catholic if he defends Francis.

You're not much of a Catholic if you deliberately refuse to call him Pope Francis.

Posted by: p0sTpWnEd at October 17, 2017 02:50 PM (Rks3h)

What if we just call him Frankie-boy?

Posted by: redbanzai at October 17, 2017 03:01 PM (xDKH6)

623 599
The Catholic Church has had shitty popes before. They have one now.

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THIS ^^ It is most Certainly True

Posted by: Martin Luther at October 17, 2017 03:01 PM (4Vu64)

624 Funny how there is no comparable list of DINO bloggers that "Ace readers would enjoy".
***
Glenn Greenwald has been interesting in that he is willing to look objectively at the deep state. He is a koolaid drinker on domestic policy stuff but he might be the only lefty really willing to consider what giving the deep state unlimited power to go after Trump actually means in the long term.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2017 03:01 PM (eSx+E)

625 619 yeah gotta love the constant atheism propaganda.

As an atheist/agnostic myself, I always thought that one of the chief benefits of not having a religion was, get this, not having a religion.

It seems to me that making a religion out of non-religion rather defeats the whole purpose of it, no?

As was said years and years ago, AllahPundit is the only blogger who trolls his own blog.

I don't get that. I really don't. If someone is reading you, and hence, paying your bills -- doesn't that make you the least little bit affectionate towards him?

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 03:00 PM (8rNrN)

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Hubris, it's a hell of a drug.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2017 03:01 PM (0eoFj)

626 Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 17, 2017 02:59 PM (iL1/

I was asking any RC that cares to comment.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 17, 2017 03:01 PM (iVOAv)

627 I'll give him credit where due, but not at the expense of pretending he's a particularly good person or President.

That's a good start. The next step is to work with allies rather than shower them with contempt and hatred for being a bit more zealous in their support than you'd like.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 03:02 PM (39g3+)

628 As an atheist/agnostic myself, I always thought that one of the chief
benefits of not having a religion was, get this, not having a religion.
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Very, very few people want to have no religion though. Most nominal atheists just want a religion that lets them celebrate their vices.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2017 03:02 PM (eSx+E)

629 Include Michael J. Totten on the list of courtier-propagandists shilling for Hillary - while pretending not to - as he clawed and scraped at the virtue of actually doing so.

"her supposed crookedness"

Posted by: 13times at October 17, 2017 03:03 PM (WHVu+)

630 >>>I was asking any RC that cares to comment.

I am Catholic but I do not think I have ever made a comment about how much of a Catholic anybody else is.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 17, 2017 03:03 PM (iL1/8)

631 >>>>>>>remember the DEWEY DECIMAL SYSTEM?

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover

...

remember BOOKS?

Posted by: acewing plover who does not believe in a Golden Age of TV at October 17, 2017 03:03 PM (8rNrN)

632 387 "Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 17, 2017 02:23 PM (nxsfe)"

This guy wasn't always a troll, was he?

Posted by: Chris M at October 17, 2017 02:27 PM (eAZVt)

Troll? No. Self-important condescending dickbag that nobody liked? Yes.

Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2017 03:04 PM (cAnNx)

633
I didn't know this. Last time I bothered looking, I was still there.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:46 PM (8rNrN)

++++

It's not true, not really. They removed their blogroll. Now, they just have a few links at the bottom of their main page, all going to various Salem sites. They didn't stop linking *you*, they stopped linking everyone who isn't them.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 17, 2017 03:04 PM (FUu/Z)

634 I don't get that. I really don't. If someone is reading you, and hence, paying your bills -- doesn't that make you the least little bit affectionate towards him?

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 03:00 PM (8rNrN)

One of the reasons you're the best.

Allah always came off like a cranky asshole. Like McCain. Hmmmmm..... has anyone seen them together?

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 17, 2017 03:04 PM (t06LC)

635 Not suprised it took so long. They're more complex than the average cart. Emulation is kind of spotty too, the emulator I use on my PSP won't play some games if you don't have the cache pregenrated. Is it for the AES or MVS? The carts for the MVS are fairly cheap. Its AES carts that cost an arm and a leg.
Posted by: Jackal at October 17, 2017 02:59 PM (WW/Sc)

There's one for both, and the carts themselves are FPGA, so it'd be running the data through legit hardware. The Neo-Geo never had any special hardware in the cartridges (later games did Bank-Switching, but that didn't need extra chips, AFAIK), so compatibility should be spot-on.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 17, 2017 03:04 PM (Vevy5)

636 Militant Atheists are the most hardcore Radical Fundamentalists in the world today, second only to ISIS members.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2017 03:04 PM (k1TUh)

637 >>>Very, very few people want to have no religion though. Most nominal atheists just want a religion that lets them celebrate their vices.

I don't think so. Anyway, as non-religious as I am, I think reducing religion to norm-enforcing social pressure organization, like the media or government, rather demeans it.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 03:05 PM (8rNrN)

638 As an atheist/agnostic myself, I always thought that one of the chief benefits of not having a religion was, get this, not having a religion.

It seems to me that making a religion out of non-religion rather defeats the whole purpose of it, no?

Yeah I have never understood atheists who INSIST that others also be one. If its all just some dumb fantasy and false, who cares what other people believe on their own time? Why does it bother you so much?

I can't help but think they protest overmuch, as Hamlet would put it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 03:05 PM (39g3+)

639 "SE Cupp, two-trick pony."

Pictures, or it didn't happen.

I do wish she hadn't lightened her hair; I liked her better as a true ginger.

Posted by: George LeS at October 17, 2017 03:05 PM (+TcCF)

640 I'll give him credit where due, but not at the expense of pretending he's a particularly good person or President. Hollopoint.

Well, you'll excuse me if I don't give a fuck about your opinion since you've already proven you don't know what the hell you are talking about.....

Posted by: FITP at October 17, 2017 03:05 PM (QK1G1)

641 >>>It's not true, not really. They removed their blogroll. Now, they just have a few links at the bottom of their main page, all going to various Salem sites. They didn't stop linking *you*, they stopped linking everyone who isn't them.

ah. that's fine then.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 03:06 PM (8rNrN)

642 The funny thing is that at that one blog Allahpundit isn't even the most insufferable piece of shit. That Taylor Mallard guy is. Every column is some hot take how whatever Donald Trump or guy on our side did that outraged liberals was wrong and how much better and more conservative it'd be to give the liberals what they want. Guy almost breaks a wrist jerking himself off.

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 17, 2017 03:06 PM (t06LC)

643 I wonder - a lot, lately - if Michelle Malkin regrets leaving Hot Air with AP in charge.

Sad what's happened over there. It feels like LGF all over again.
Posted by: fretless at October 17, 2017 02:37 PM (sGtp+)

I stuck around for one of their "enrollment windows" around 2008 or 9, got in and the place promptly turned to shit. The worst thing those fuckers did was stroke the trolls and dump all over the base: it was like an online GOPe. I'll bet I had less than a dozen comments before I just gave up posting there; kind of like LGF.

One of the banned posters here, MrScribbler, was hilariously merciless on those two gelded fuckheads. I knew that his type of humor would eventually grate on ace, so his purge was no great surprise; but I thought he was extremely funny.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 17, 2017 03:07 PM (y7DUB)

644 639 "SE Cupp, two-trick pony."

Pictures, or it didn't happen.

I do wish she hadn't lightened her hair; I liked her better as a true ginger.

Posted by: George LeS at October 17, 2017 03:05 PM (+TcCF)

Now, there's only one way to know if she's a TRUE ginger...

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 17, 2017 03:07 PM (t06LC)

645 Where's Kevin? Jonah? Jay?

Posted by: George LeS at October 17, 2017 03:08 PM (+TcCF)

646 Include Michael J. Totten on the list of courtier-propagandists shilling for Hillary - while pretending not to - as he clawed and scraped at the virtue of actually doing so.

That was deeply, deeply disappointing to me. Another is that Russian chess genius who I can't remember. The guy became convinced beyond any rational position that Trump = Stalin, and could not be shaken from it. Very sad to see, because otherwise he was very good on world politics, liberty, and America.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 03:08 PM (39g3+)

647 doesn't that make you the least little bit affectionate towards him?

Affectionate? - careful we'll start humping your leg.
That'll definitely knock the shelves down.

Posted by: DaveA at October 17, 2017 03:08 PM (FhXTo)

648 Yeah Taylor Mallard is pretty bad, but for my money Jazz has always been one of the less conservative guys on there. Sure, he's old, but that doesn't necessarily make you a conservative. Seems like every other post he makes is extolling the virtues of euthanasia.

Posted by: p0sTpWnEd at October 17, 2017 03:09 PM (Rks3h)

649 >>>It became apparent to me that Goldberg put his support
behind the lesser of two evils when it came to "personal interests." He
chose the known evil, but was threatened by the prospect of the
populist nationalist Trump and his efforts to (1) undo Obama-era
actions, and (2) would be proven to be more effective in executing many
of the same Goldberg-approved conservative actions - but do it because
it's rational and the right thing to-do, not because it fits under the
confines of "conservative inc".

In short, the prospect of a madman, unrefined Trump scares the shit
of Goldberg types because he is a brute, less ideological, but can be
much more effective because what he does is based more on common-sense,
and less on his sage advice.

This hurst Goldberg's bonafides, as his voice drifts more and more
into the wind, while Trump marches forward without asking for his input
hardly ever, if at all.

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I actually have a lot of sympathy for Goldberg and believe he is writing in good faith, as he sees it. He is a gentleman who wants to believe in a dignified purpose of the federal government. He was very clear that while he was #NeverTrump he was also #NeverHillary. Hell, he still uses recycled Bill Clinton jokes in his articles and newsletters... and he needs to move on.

That being said, he is not our enemy. He is a weather-mark. This is where the intellectual GOPe (as it SHOULD be) stands. He frets too much over the details of making the sausage... but we need to at least be listing to what he has to say so that we don't start chopping apart healthy meat in the process. At the moment, he is mostly wrong - but he's worth hearing out.

Posted by: Martin Luther at October 17, 2017 03:09 PM (4Vu64)

650 Militant Atheists are the most hardcore Radical Fundamentalists in the world today, second only to ISIS members.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2017 03:04 PM (k1TUh)

SE Cupp is an atheist, but Christian friendly. Part of why her weaksauce conservatism is such a disappointment.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 17, 2017 03:10 PM (/qEW2)

651 Jealously just not become Ace.

Better luck next time cracking the hot 25!

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at October 17, 2017 03:10 PM (h/uSM)

652 642

That Taylor Mallard guy has to be a parody account. He is dimmer than Marie Scharf, and is one of those Kat Timpf-types that has to preface everything with "as a libertarian...."

Cringeworthy to say the least.

Posted by: Carlos Danger at October 17, 2017 03:10 PM (ce4vQ)

653 >>>Yeah I have never understood atheists who INSIST that others also be one. If its all just some dumb fantasy and false, who cares what other people believe on their own time? Why does it bother you so much?

I can't help but think they protest overmuch, as Hamlet would put it.

...

I don't think they protest too much in the way you mean, but in another way. All religions make exclusive claims about cosmology, virtue, and other matters. Religious Atheism is no different than other religions, in competition with them. Therefore, the need to fish for converts and denigrate other religions.

I don't make a religion out of my non-religion so I don't care if I gain converts or lose them to a godly religion.

no one's forcing me to bow to any god or religious stricture (with the exception of Islam and its US government deacons) so generally I'm not bothered by religion or religious folk.

I also don't think atheism is any cause for Superiority Dancing, because I think, when you get down to it, some people are just born with a stronger desire for the transcendent and others a lesser desire.

Few people are reasoned into their beliefs, really. We're mostly pretty inborn as to our basic impulses.

So being proud that you reject religion is like being proud of your eye color.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 03:10 PM (8rNrN)

654 @648

I forgot Jazz. I usually zone out reading whatever snoozefest crap he puts up there so it doesn't really effect me. Mallard just pisses me off. With friendly fire like this, who needs the democrats?

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 17, 2017 03:10 PM (t06LC)

655 HA made those changes at the same time as they went to a Facebook-controlled posting system, remember.

Destroyed a decade of history with interesting comments, and commenters. They didn't care; they didn't want any scrutiny or disagreement.

Their comments sections now, the few times I look (and I used to participate a lot) are about what you would expect on any 14 year old girl's facebook page.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2017 03:11 PM (k1TUh)

656 "SE Cupp, two-trick pony."

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mmmm bareback. wouldn't mind reining her in

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at October 17, 2017 03:12 PM (h/uSM)

657 >>>That Taylor Mallard guy has to be a parody account. He is dimmer than Marie Scharf, and is one of those Kat Timpf-types that has to preface everything with "as a libertarian...."

the Weekly Standard podcast guys do this thing where they say "Speaking as a father" because they say people say that like it infuses their words with special wisdom. Then they say something that has nothing to do with fatherhood.

Like, "Speaking as a father, I think DOOM recaptures the spirit of the original game."

I love people who have to endlessly tell me about themselves and what makes them so special!

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 03:12 PM (8rNrN)

658 654 @648

I forgot Jazz. I usually zone out reading whatever snoozefest crap he puts up there so it doesn't really effect me. Mallard just pisses me off. With friendly fire like this, who needs the democrats?
Posted by: Jollyroger at October 17, 2017 03:10 PM (t06LC)

Special Ed's "As a catholic..." disclaimer as an excuse for why he's bowing to whatever SJW Pressures he's feeling this week got old too.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 17, 2017 03:12 PM (Vevy5)

659 I totally get being disgusted with Presdient Trump on a personal and cultural level. The guy is low class, he's a serial adulterer in the past (he seems to have really changed there, though), he's hamfisted in his speeches unless they are carefully prepared (at which point he becomes Abraham freaking Cicero). His tweets are often cringy, he is kind of the face of the worst meme-spewing modern. He's not great on trade, because he's a huge protectionist.

I get that. Its not likable or presidential and I don't want that in the oval office.

But he's in there. He's the guy in the presidency. So now what counts is what he gets done. And as long as he keeps getting good stuff done, I can live with it. Opposing him so vigorously over all that other stuff is just childish. You work with what you have.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 03:13 PM (39g3+)

660 >>>I actually have a lot of sympathy for Goldberg and believe he is writing in good faith, as he sees it. He is a gentleman who wants to believe in a dignified purpose of the federal government. He was very clear that while he was #NeverTrump he was also #NeverHillary. Hell, he still uses recycled Bill Clinton jokes in his articles and newsletters... and he needs to move on.

That being said, he is not our enemy. He is a weather-mark. This is where the intellectual GOPe (as it SHOULD be) stands.

...

shyeah right. Aim higher, please.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 03:13 PM (8rNrN)

661 I never posted a damn thing on HA.

Now, The HQ is awesome as far as posting goes. A lot of fun. Always good when the Chief Ewok comes down to mingle with the masses.

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 17, 2017 03:13 PM (t06LC)

662 So being proud that you reject religion is like being proud of your eye color.
Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 03:10 PM (8rNrN)

Blue eyes best eyes.

Posted by: p0sTpWnEd at October 17, 2017 03:13 PM (Rks3h)

663 ace, if you're reading this, bring back THE PODCAST please. I miss it.

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 17, 2017 03:14 PM (t06LC)

664
That being said, he is not our enemy. He is a weather-mark. This is where the intellectual GOPe (as it SHOULD be) stands. He frets too much over the details of making the sausage... but we need to at least be listing to what he has to say so that we don't start chopping apart healthy meat in the process. At the moment, he is mostly wrong - but he's worth hearing out.
Posted by: Martin Luther at October 17, 2017 03:09 PM (4Vu64)

>>>>I agree Martin Luther. He's not the enemy, but a check of where the GOPe should stand on a certain issue. "Liberal Fascism" is a great book. But I do relish when he tries to play the Krauthammer psychologist role of interpreting what "Trump meant to say" - while Mollie Hemingway knocks him back to reality on Bret Baier's pundit segment.

Posted by: Carlos Danger at October 17, 2017 03:14 PM (ce4vQ)

665 662 So being proud that you reject religion is like being proud of your eye color.
Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 03:10 PM (8rNrN)

Blue eyes best eyes.

Posted by: p0sTpWnEd at October 17, 2017 03:13 PM (Rks3h)

Green, bitch

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 17, 2017 03:14 PM (t06LC)

666 i just looked - and today Jazz is once again betraying his statist roots, by buying into the theory that the Waco Biker situation was a "good" way for the police to deal with gang activity.

I live kind of near the area, I know people who know people who were involved. The trial is going to get interesting; everytime the full story gets close to coming out, details get released about how the police had 5 squad cars full of heavily armed officers ON SITE before ANY shooting started, and almost all of the participants say the first shots they ever saw fired all came from the police themselves.

And MOST of the bullet wounds in the 150 or so people wounded came from rounds that were only used by the police.

Jazz either never looked into this angle, or else he's saying that set-ups and massacres against unpopular groups are a great way for the police forces to operate.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2017 03:16 PM (k1TUh)

667
That's a good start. The next step is to work with allies rather than shower them with contempt and hatred for being a bit more zealous in their support than you'd like

Except that courtesy doesn't get returned in the opposite direction, does it?

Most of the 25 referenced in this post have praised Trump when he deserved it. Did that buy them the slightest bit of good will from the #MAGA crowd? No.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 17, 2017 03:16 PM (nxsfe)

668 >>>The funny thing is that at that one blog Allahpundit isn't even the most insufferable piece of shit. That Taylor Mallard guy is. Every column is some hot take how whatever Donald Trump or guy on our side did that outraged liberals was wrong and how much better and more conservative it'd be to give the liberals what they want. Guy almost breaks a wrist jerking himself off.

The thing with politics is, it's very, very easy to slide into simple narcissism. Any sort of belief structure lends itself to this. "I believe x, so I'm better than U."

If i'm being honest, I do that a lot. if you're being honest, you'd admit you (general audience you, not specific you) do that a lot too.

That doesn't mean some people aren't more obvious narcissistic "I'm better" twats about it, though.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 03:16 PM (8rNrN)

669 I actually have a lot of sympathy for Goldberg and believe he is writing in good faith, as he sees it.

I think so too, and he has good stuff still and is quite bright. I expect in a year or so he'll have turned around a bit on the anti-Trump stuff as well, if things keep going the way they have been.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 03:17 PM (39g3+)

670 >>>663 ace, if you're reading this, bring back THE PODCAST please. I miss it.

thank you but I don't really like doing it. I don't have that showman's ease in just being myself and talking and filling up a room.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 03:18 PM (8rNrN)

671 663 ace, if you're reading this, bring back THE PODCAST please. I miss it.
Posted by: Jollyroger at October 17, 2017 03:14 PM (t06LC)

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I think he's said that he hated the experience.

I loved the podcast, too, but if he doesn't like it then there's nothing else to say.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2017 03:19 PM (0eoFj)

672
Blue eyes best eyes.

Posted by: p0sTpWnEd at October 17, 2017 03:13 PM (Rks3h)

Green, bitch
Posted by: Jollyroger
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Blood red.

Posted by: Meagain at October 17, 2017 03:19 PM (nBBdT)

673 Except that courtesy doesn't get returned in the opposite direction, does it?

So? What are you, nine? Shrug off the people who are jerks and maybe over time they'll see what you're like and they will not be jerks so much either.

Or you can throw mud back and forth like toddlers in a puddle.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 03:19 PM (39g3+)

674 Like, "Speaking as a father, I think DOOM recaptures the spirit of the original game."

I love people who have to endlessly tell me about themselves and what makes them so special!

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 03:12 PM (8rNrN)

>>>> Let me try it. "As a father, this Harvey Weinstein guy is kinda creepy. Maybe I should think twice before dropping her off at the Beverly Hills Hotel on a Friday night."

Yep - I'm now totally relatable, and - guess what - I told everyone I am a dad! Hugs!

But I wish I hadn't done that to my poor hypothetical daughter.

Posted by: Carlos Danger at October 17, 2017 03:20 PM (ce4vQ)

675 "The young British man whose name escapes me who makes video commentary there is spot-on."

Paul Joseph Watson

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 17, 2017 03:20 PM (l9m7l)

676 Few people are reasoned into their beliefs, really. We're mostly pretty inborn as to our basic impulses.

So being proud that you reject religion is like being proud of your eye color.

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Ironically, this is the same position that Calvinist and Lutheran Chistians would take (and probably Catholic and Orthodox too).

While the semantics of each tradition are a little different - all of the above believe that Christian Faith is something you are called to by the Holy Spirit and that those who "don't get it" will never get it.

I'm not saying you're a bad person (well, not any worse than the rest of us!) or that you are deficient of the ability to reason... it's just that you do not possess the ability to embrace Christian truth because you don't have the Holy Spirit as a part of you.

Does this mean that we can't be in political alliance? Absolutely not! If not all will believe, then we need to structure a civil society where the Believer and non-Believer can both live in peace an harmony! I want this because I want the ability of the Holy Spirit to call more souls to Christ to be allowed. You want this because you want to be able to have the freedom of choice. We both win.

It's the militant atheist who has replaced the Religious urge with a Scientistic pseudo-religion who is currently driving our society to be intolerant. And let me say... their religion is sorely lacking. First of all, Bill Nye and Neil Degrasse Tyson are terrible High Priests. Their indulgences of Carbon Credits are laughable and their devotion to Gaia is inconsistent.

Let's just say that people can believe whatever they want - or whatever they are moved to believe - and they are free to persuade others to their viewpoint without hindrance or help from the government. Heck... that would be a fantastic set of values to found a nation upon!

Posted by: Cranky Librarian (aka Neo Martin Luther) at October 17, 2017 03:20 PM (4Vu64)

677 SE Cupp and Kat Timpf both have raspy voices, which could mean several things, some alluring, but the most likely is this: They never, ever, shut up.

Think long and hard before dipping your wicks in that brand of loud crazy.

Posted by: Not SE Cupp's Cuckolded Husband at October 17, 2017 03:21 PM (FVLz6)

678 If i'm being honest, I do that a lot. if you're being honest, you'd admit you (general audience you, not specific you) do that a lot too.

As I've aged, I've gotten better at this but yeah, its always a struggle. In Calvinist Christianity, we call it the "cage stage" where you are so aggressive, argumentative, and overbearing its best if you're put in a cage somewhere until you calm down.

Humility is not just a virtue, but its also very attractive, and you tend to win more people over by being humble, thoughtful, and attentive than blasting over people yelling talking points and hot takes. You don't get lots of followers or go "viral" that way, but you do actually reach people more often.

Its just hard to do, because the urge to smash rises in the best of us and folks like me have to fight it even harder.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 03:21 PM (39g3+)

679 OMG I love this post. This should become a new all star post on the blog. Who else thinks so?!

Posted by: Draki at October 17, 2017 03:22 PM (Y0byY)

680 thank you but I don't really like doing it. I don't have that showman's ease in just being myself and talking and filling up a room.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 03:18 PM (8rNrN)

It was great. I think that was part of the charm.

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 17, 2017 03:22 PM (t06LC)

681 I don't have that showman's ease in just being myself and talking and filling up a room.

I think you have to, putting it mildly, be very fond of yourself to be able to do that comfortably and easily. You don't strike me as that sort of ewok.

SE Cupp and Kat Timpf both have raspy voices, which could mean several things, some alluring, but the most likely is this: They never, ever, shut up.

I don't know if they are teaching it in school or what but a LOT of broadcaster females have that nasty brassy raspy voice. Its very unattractive but its everywhere now. It curdles me nads, boyo.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 03:23 PM (39g3+)

682 641 >>>It's not true, not really. They removed their blogroll. Now, they just have a few links at the bottom of their main page, all going to various Salem sites. They didn't stop linking *you*, they stopped linking everyone who isn't them.

ah. that's fine then.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 03:06 PM (8rNrN)

The original commenter could be getting mixed things up with LGF gleefully dropping you.

Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2017 03:23 PM (cAnNx)

683 Reactive Not Preemptive
Take a sampling of Trump's most infamous tweets and adolescent outbursts-attacks on Bob Corker's height, referencing Rex Tillerson's IQ, the creepy description of blood oozing from a supposedly irate Megyn Kelly, or deprecating the capture and imprisonment of John McCain-and the common denominator is not just puerility and cruelty, but also retaliation. All had first attacked Trump and sometimes quite viciously. Corker had claimed that Trump's White House was chaos, a reality show, and in danger of prompting World War III-a virtual charge that Trump was nuts. Anonymous sources accused Tillerson of calling Trump a moron or, at least, implying it-and the secretary did not explicitly deny the charge, although he deplored the climate in which such accusations were made. Kelly hijacked her own debate question and turned it into a scripted rant about Trump's alleged misogyny. McCain arrogantly wrote off Trump's supporters as "crazies"-a forgotten precursor to Hillary Clinton's "deplorables" and "irredeemables."

We assume that "he started it" is an immature defense. And it is, of course. But people do still distinguish a defender from an attacker. Collate Trump's tweets and they are 24/7 responses to preemptive attacks by his critics.

What can possibly be Trump's purpose in appearing so thin-skinned and petty?

Likely it is twofold. Most obviously he seeks to reestablish deterrence: don't dare attack Trump unless you are willing to be dragged down with him into a netherworld whose rules he has mastered. Just ask Low Energy Jeb, Little Marco, or Lyin' Ted.

https://amgreatness.com/2017/10/
16/the-method-to-trumps-madness/

That's from a long VDH piece. I'd love to quote more, but I've grabbed too much already.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 17, 2017 03:24 PM (pvjTE)

684
dude, ace, did you just make a near perfect and seriously funny reference to the film, _The Caine Mutiny_?

Bogart was perfect in that movie.

I can tell you for a fact who stole and ate those delicious frozen strawberries. I can even tell you how many ladle-fulls of sand equal how many frozen strawberries.
And ultimately I will relive my glory days of finding out the strawberry-pilferer.

Posted by: Cold Civil War at October 17, 2017 03:24 PM (Z2PYk)

685 "As I've aged, I've gotten better at this but yeah, its always a struggle. In Calvinist Christianity, we call it the "cage stage" where you are so aggressive, argumentative, and overbearing its best if you're put in a cage somewhere until you calm down. "

I think our entire culture, both social and political, is in a "Cage Stage" right now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2017 03:25 PM (k1TUh)

686 The trouble with Jonah Goldberg is that he's too much given to pattern seeking, which in history and politics always means pattern making. Liberal Fascism was a good book, but not so good as most on the right think. (E.g., he never addressed the Salazar-Franco-Pinochet problem; he ducked it.)

He also is addicted to the notion of a mythical fusionist past, like most of those at NR. Since I was there, reading the magazine, and he was unborn, I know he's full of it. For my money, the best anti-Trump conservative is Shapiro. (That's for columns. Absolutely speaking I'll take Cupp or Hamm. Or both.)

BTW, Ace,you might want to check out Ed Feser's blog. Come back and explain why you're an atheist.

Posted by: George LeS at October 17, 2017 03:26 PM (+TcCF)

687 670
>>>663 ace, if you're reading this, bring back THE PODCAST please. I miss it.

thank you but I don't really like doing it. I don't have that
showman's ease in just being myself and talking and filling up a room.

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Thank you for the time you did spend on the Podcast. Your work is actually what got me into Podcasting as a thing. I now listen to The Federalist Radio Hour pretty regularly and quite a few others in spurts.

I still look back at the AOSHQ Podcast as the golden age (for me) of sitting around the campfire talking shit (and in my mind, I carried on a dialogue with you and the CobLoggers). It was a great experience but maybe its time has come and gone.

Be sure that if you do bring it back it isn't like the return of Family Guy, where the shitty new episodes make us realize how bad the show actually was all along ;-)

Posted by: Cranky Librarian at October 17, 2017 03:26 PM (4Vu64)

688
I do not read a single one of those rump swabbers.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 17, 2017 03:29 PM (pNxlR)

689 >>>BTW, Ace,you might want to check out Ed Feser's blog. Come back and explain why you're an atheist.

you don't seem to get the benefits of just not really caring about matters metaphysical. : )

See, I don't want to argue or have my beliefs challenged, or have my beliefs confirmed. It's just not even on my radar of things I care about.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 03:31 PM (8rNrN)

690 Strictly speaking, the Catholic view (the dominant one) is that we would all get to Christianity through reason, if it were not that the fallen will prevents this, and effect of original sin. Further, on theism, the Catholic view goes further, and holds that reason alone can get you there. Not to Christ, nor to Judaism (revealed religion), but at least as far as Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle got. (Assuming you have the ability and opportunity to do so.) There was a time when Mahometan philosophers agreed, but they were banished.

Posted by: George LeS at October 17, 2017 03:35 PM (+TcCF)

691 OT/and I just popped in & haven't seen the other threads, but at John McCain's award ceremony, he said Merica was a place of ideals, not blood or soil. Warning: half-ass Rant follows. From sleep-deprived & cranky me.

What.the.fvck, you traiterous, stupid ass. If we do not have land, we have no America, & we aren't a country. So yea, soil is an important part of who we are. And without the blood that soaked that soil we would not be who we are. And so those people whose ancestors spilled blood, gave their descendants citizenship, and other people should not be able to wander in illegally & take that away. They are not the ones who have spilled blood, or built the country or paid into the system. Since when is it an American ideal to give away our country to other people who resent the country & want to turn it into something else.

Soil and blood are part of our ideals. That you would say that shows you have betrayed your own values. Been chatting with Obama & the dark state I see. Ready to bring in people intent on destroying us.

Let's bury you in another country's soil. That should be fine with you right?

Posted by: Professor Chaos aka gumdrop gorilla at October 17, 2017 03:39 PM (s8v1a)

692 Makes me very sad to see this. I'm not sure what happened Ace to create such anger toward Allah. It seemed the split was amicable at first, but has gotten increasingly hostile. I understand the issues with his politics, but I guess I always figured y'all were friends too. I'm sorry man.

Posted by: Oil Field Trash at October 17, 2017 03:45 PM (B20V4)

693 It's not true, not really. They removed their blogroll. Now, they just have a few links at the bottom of their main page, all going to various Salem sites. They didn't stop linking *you*, they stopped linking everyone who isn't them.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 17, 2017 03:04 PM (FUu/Z)
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You misspelled "borg" on that last word.

Posted by: Axeman at October 17, 2017 03:50 PM (2mC6G)

694 It doesn't look like Ace is so much angry as disgusted and fed up with Allahpundit. There's no rage there, just sarcasm and light contempt.

Its clear that a lot of "conservative allies" during Iraq were simply fans of war and American expansionism.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2017 03:52 PM (39g3+)

695 Oh, and McCain said this too:

He warned against the US turning toward 'half-baked, spurious nationalism'.

Let me interpret: Nationalism is bad. Parriotic Americans are bad. America first is bad.

Posted by: Professor Chaos aka gumdrop gorilla at October 17, 2017 03:53 PM (s8v1a)

696 Patriotic not Parriotic.

But those American Parrots are bad too.

Posted by: Professor Chaos aka gumdrop gorilla at October 17, 2017 03:54 PM (s8v1a)

697 >>>Soil and blood are part of our ideals

Blood and soil are not, and you need to recognize the historical origins of that term.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 17, 2017 03:57 PM (iL1/8)

698 689 >>>BTW, Ace,you might want to check out Ed Feser's blog. Come back and explain why you're an atheist.

you don't seem to get the benefits of just not really caring about matters metaphysical. : )

See, I don't want to argue or have my beliefs challenged, or have my beliefs confirmed. It's just not even on my radar of things I care about.

Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 03:31 PM (8rNrN)

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It would be better, then, if you chose a different word than "atheist", or at least a qualifier. Words meanings evolve over time, and "atheist" has a strong connection with the kind of aggressive proselytizing you don't like (Thanks, Dawkins). An example is the way socialists have to say "DEMOCRATIC socialism", to avoid being seen as the commies they are. (Actually, in the 19th C, there were self-avowed "communists" who weren't Marxists. That doesn't work any more.) Another example is "creationist". Strictly, Catholics are, even if they don't mean seven-day, young earth creationism. But using the word just creates confusion.

Posted by: George LeS at October 17, 2017 03:58 PM (+TcCF)

699 Apologies, I've been away from the HQ for quite a while, but I thought that Allah and Ace were buds.

That relationship not survive the Trumpening?

Posted by: Percy Gryce at October 17, 2017 03:59 PM (mAm+G)

700 BTW, Ace,you might want to check out Ed Feser's blog. Come back and explain why you're an atheist.

Posted by: George LeS at October 17, 2017 03:26 PM (+TcCF)

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I've gone there before. The Aristotle/Aquinas guy. There are some interesting arguments there (like the argument from determinate meaning), but it never managed to convince me.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 17, 2017 04:10 PM (/qEW2)

701 Well, I'm glad to see that you finally realize that Allahpundit is a fake republican.

Not to even mention all of Town Hall media. they should all share a bunk with Bill Krystal.

Posted by: Dick Cheneys' cat at October 17, 2017 04:14 PM (u3li/)

702 Sorry Ace -- I finally had some time to read through the comments and read your statements and I apologize for my comment. Understand your point completely. I have a couple 'friendships' like that which ended the same way. You are entirely correct -- sometimes you just have fucking enough.

Posted by: Oil Field Trash at October 17, 2017 04:19 PM (B20V4)

703 True, I think. Incidentally, Phase 2 went so well that I've added a Phase 3.
It's just going to be fucking shelves all around the room.
Posted by: ace at October 17, 2017 02:02 PM (8rNrN)

It's about time I got a break

Posted by: The Chicken at October 17, 2017 04:21 PM (QBrQE)

704 I was heart broken by Allapundit's seemingly overnight transformation into Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs fame. However, if you remember Trumps' rise also caused ace to flirt with the dark side. One of the funniest things I had ever read was ace's bit about the clown car and the fire out the penises. But my two favorite daily reads, ace and Allah, who I thought were both so simpatico with my own beliefs were becoming unreadable because of freakin' Trump. I am so grateful that ace turned down that sweet sweet establishment blog propaganda money and at least tentatively got on the Trump train.

Posted by: tommylotto at October 17, 2017 04:33 PM (oozmg)

705 19 When allahpundit gleefully kicked Ace off of his links page (or at least cheered the decision to do so) that was it. Allahpundit, and his cohorts, some of who I used to enjoy, like Ed, are dead to me.

No looking back. This is war, and they betrayed me, and all of us.

I'm sure I'm late to the party, but this is the first I have heard anything about this.

Posted by: Boone at October 17, 2017 04:43 PM (pAXB7)

706 I second this. The old podcast was the best. I miss it greatly.

"663 ace, if you're reading this, bring back THE PODCAST please. I miss it.

thank you but I don't really like doing it. I don't have that
showman's ease in just being myself and talking and filling up a room."

Posted by: Waingro at October 17, 2017 04:49 PM (guxWS)

707 Kat Timpf has the body of a 13yo boy-

I'd like to check, to be sure.

Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or great value tibet at October 17, 2017 04:58 PM (U4PcL)

708 I like the tears and wet panties test. If a progressive isn't crying or peeing their pants at your comments you are not a conservative.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 17, 2017 04:58 PM (bmkS9)

709 Allah wasn't readable since about a year ago. It was clear where he was going. He can go fuck himself for ruining hotair.

Posted by: Community Organizer at October 17, 2017 05:05 PM (GN7Er)

710 IMHO the 25 on Salon's list are professed or at least acknowledged atheist/Christian critics in the "bon vivant" Bohemian academic genre. I often read Allah but his snark has increased logarithmicaly over the past election season/post-Obama period

Posted by: MantuaBill at October 17, 2017 07:32 PM (1L6FT)

711 AllahPundit is why I don't go to Hot Air much anymore.

Posted by: WannabeAnglican at October 17, 2017 07:47 PM (P6U03)

712 Ouch. Maybe you and AP should rewatch Brokeback Mountain together.

Yeah, I've lurked here that long.

Posted by: SkullBoneOmega at October 17, 2017 07:53 PM (4WwpM)

713 594 Funny how there is no comparable list of DINO bloggers that "Ace readers would enjoy".
They're all shades of Commie now, Mommy.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives

The "Democrat" commenters I most enjoy are Youtubers like David Rubin and Sargon of Akkad.
Posted by: LizLem

Thanks-- we'll give a look.

624 Glenn Greenwald has been interesting in that he is willing to look objectively at the deep state. He is a koolaid drinker on domestic policy stuff but he might be the only lefty really willing to consider what giving the deep state unlimited power to go after Trump actually means in the long term. Posted by: 18-1

Yeah , he's been interesting on Deep State, and shown some integrity. Tangled with him back in the day over Iraq. Called him "Waldo Greenglen" for his easily penetrated sock-puppetry.

That was back when LGF and Hot Air were both fun, and we innocently presumed that most Deep-Staters were on Team America, before Barky salted the field with Commie traitors, Muslim Brotherhood moles and Soros Globalists.

"Good times, good times".

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 17, 2017 08:12 PM (Ndje9)

714 I'm convinced Allahpundit is a mercenary political operative. He's more than just a blogger.

He's deceitful, but in a very indirect way. Did you ever wonder where the Establishment Republicans' cheerleaders were? Where are the diehard fans of a McConnell-esque GOP? Establishment GOPe output is abysmal, though, so they don't have open "fans", per se. What the Establishment GOP has is an army of pundits and bloggers who have their positions because of a love of careerism and use their influence to protect the status quo.

These pundits and bloggers (Salon's Top 25) have as their job to trick truly conservative voters into believing a series of lies about what the Republican party really stands for. With these mercenaries, you get a lot of talk about "principles" and what it means to be a "true conservative."

Stanley Fish's The Trouble with Principle discusses why a phenomenon like this is particularly deceptive. "Principles" are a blank slate. People appealing to "principle" without defining what they mean are trying to associate themselves with the abstract goodness of being principled. Of course, it's a neat trick to do something evil or foolish, but make yourself look noble or wise.

Propagandists like Allahpundit are evil because what they do is twist facts to create a perception (phony polls, out-of-context quotes, honest misunderstandings) and then browbeat their readers with words like Principle and their twisted definitions of True Conservatism. This is all to rally a "conservative" tribe mentality and short-circuit critical thinking to stop and ask some pointed questions:

-How are starting wars in the Middle East based on, at best, shaky information "conservative"? (Bush)
-Since when did extending Medicaid or bailing out banks be considered "conservative" policy? (Bush)
-What "principle" motivates state-run healthcare, a la Mitt Romney's Romneycare in MA - the precursor to Obamacare?

An honest look at these and numerous other questions will inevitably lead to the conclusion that pundits like Allahpundit don't know what the hell they're talking about when they throw around their notions of "conservative" or "principled."

But Allahpundit knows what he is doing. His job is to sour the minds of truly conservative voters, displace righteous anger, and offer up false choices. Allahpundit plays a diabolical game with his blog posts, which are actually psychological assaults upon voter's minds. Hotair is designed to protect Establishment power, plain and simple. Allahpundit and Ed Morrissey redirect anger and plant doubts to defeat any insurgency to Established power.

People like Allahpundit are used by the Establishment to get people to go along with bad policy. All in the name of 'muh conservatism' or 'muh principles'.

I'm glad that Ace is writing pointedly against Allahpundit. It tells me that Ace correctly perceives the level of deception at play here. It's encouraging too to have an honest blogger out there.

Posted by: Zodiac Killer at October 17, 2017 08:37 PM (/l+9E)

715 Very late to the party, but I know Allahpundit's ego will require he read every last ASCII character in the comments.

Hot Air went almost immediately to shit after Malkin sold it to Salem. When Obama was elected, Ace's site became the only place to go to get laughs. As Hot Air became more liberal, AP's sense of humor consisted of trolling us with Romney and McCain posts.

After they cut off non-Facebook commenters, the remaining conservatives left. Only Jazz Shaw faced commmenters in the last days while Ed and Allah hid ducked and covered under their classroom desks.

Now Allah spends his days navel gazing at thrilling poll results. Never met a funny liberal and it cost AP his sense of humor. Hot Air is stinking up Alexa as there is not much demand for squish bipartisan blogs.

Posted by: Valiant at October 17, 2017 09:48 PM (3MiF8)

716 I detest AllahPundit.

Maybe there's some significance in the fact that he's adopted Allah as his name?

I am so glad to hear that Ace, whom I adore, shares my opinion of the self-important twerp.

Posted by: True the Note at October 17, 2017 10:24 PM (HLTe8)

717 I've gone there before. The Aristotle/Aquinas guy. There are some interesting arguments there (like the argument from determinate meaning), but it never managed to convince me.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 17, 2017 04:10 PM (/qEW2)

The indeterminacy argument is one of a group, stemming from the Greeks, which are still devastating against the materialist position. But of course, you do have to dig into the terminology. The first thing is to realize that "cause" means "explanation", and may or may not involve efficient causation. You cannot explain human action without final causes; efficient ones are simply missing the point. (That's what started me on that path.)

Posted by: George LeS at October 17, 2017 10:55 PM (+TcCF)

718 Rush didn't appear to have a "RINO panic" as Allahpundit claimed. Rush said this:

'They despise Donald Trump. Some of them are actually, other than that, pretty good. Some of them are actually genuine conservatives. But they all hate Trump.'

So Allahpundit is smearing Rush when he says Rush called them all RINOs.

Posted by: Matt X at October 18, 2017 05:19 AM (z1vnP)

719 333 Put Salon and Slate together and you have SS.

Put Salon and Slate together and you get State.

Posted by: Wit's End at October 18, 2017 11:05 AM (ROYpB)

720 389 Ed at HotAir is not that bad, but he's a Catholic so a lot of conservative Protestants have problems with him, especially when he defends Pope Francis.

A Roman Catholic need not defend Pope Francis.
Hold my beer: Pope Francis is a commie rat and
is stonewalling legitimate questions on his papacy.

Posted by: Wit's End at October 18, 2017 11:19 AM (ROYpB)

721 481

I still stop short of the bended-knee adoration of our god-emporer that some employ. He is our CEO and we are the Board of Directors. We praise him when he does things right and give him shit when he f**ks up to get him back in line.

"God-Emperor Trump" is used to stir up the easily stirred.

So far only the NFL bends the knee.

Posted by: Wit's End at October 18, 2017 11:41 AM (ROYpB)

722 So Ace and AP broke up because of the election. That's a shame I thought they were a cute couple.

Posted by: DFCtomm at October 18, 2017 12:01 PM (50gG9)

723 Aww, poor Ace is still bitter over being jilted by AP for going full alt-right.

Posted by: lolTrump at October 18, 2017 01:30 PM (/k+iZ)

724 You've turned into a real piece of shit, Ace.

90% of your blog was nothing but reposts of AllahisIntheHouse/Hotair content for several years. For fucks sake, you still have a link to "AllahPundit's Paul Anka 45's Collection" on the main page. Speaking of which - how pathetic is it you have created so little worthwhile content that you still have to link to a bit from almost 15 years ago?

Posted by: a at October 19, 2017 09:28 PM (Xbi4l)

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