EMT 10/15/17

Early bird gets the EMT.

Posted by: krakatoa at 06:00 AM

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1 Good Morning Morons today is Sunday, October 15, 2017. On this day in 1764 Edward Gibbon had a nice cup of mead while watching a group of friars singing in the ruined Temple of Jupiter in Rome. In a drunken stupor he began work on The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. Now I may have made some of that up.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

2 Scankles makes damn sure we know it is a damn good thing she lost.

http://tinyurl.com/ybqkawyb

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

3 Matt Gaetz at Fox News thinks the NFL still gets tax breaks, or his headline does even though the article talks about a different break. No the NFL does not get tax breaks. But they do get free stadiums built. But that isn't the NFL. That is crony corruption for the owners of teams and it isn't a tax break. If local tax payers want their money going to corrupt billionaires they will continue to vote in corrupt Democrats.

http://tinyurl.com/ybzc4t23

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

4 Favian Garcia, 27 arrested after a crash Sunday that killed a woman and four children near Salem, Ore., had a blood-alcohol level nearly four times the legal limit, police revealed Tuesday. He had a blood-alcohol content of 0.318. Was he an illegal? We'll never know. .318, hell he should not have been able to walk.

http://tinyurl.com/y83ua9sn

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

5 Pot calls the kettle black in Whoreywood. Hey scrunt Jane, I am still waiting on you to die so I can fly out to CA and piss on your grave.

http://tinyurl.com/yb38byyc

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

6 Commie Bernie is not happy with the Trump tax plan. No worries you commie asshole, thanks to assholes like you it hasn't got a chance in hell of passing. We will continue to be a socialist/fascist nation drifting into communism.

http://tinyurl.com/yavq65o9

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

7 BB article tries to explain to slow learners why DACA amnesty is a bad thing for conservatives and even Republicans in the RNCe..

http://tinyurl.com/yczfvymc

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

8 Mueller wants to block release of corrupt Comey memos. Again, where is Sessions?

http://tinyurl.com/yavlwjyt

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

9 Asshole thieves steal the flags from an 84 year old widow. Former Marines get together and replace them for her.

http://tinyurl.com/yaxbqt3w

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

10 What utter BS.

Two EMP experts warned Congress on Thursday that North Korea is capable of executing an EMP attack over the United States which would send the U.S. back to the stone age and would lead to the deaths of 90 percent of all Americans within one year.

The next big time scam for the tax and spend commies. The Nork EMP scare.

http://tinyurl.com/y8prfput

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

11 CA fascists are moving into the pet allocation business now. This is what happens when there is no opposition party. Look out America.

http://tinyurl.com/yarjuedu

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

12 Insurance cronies are squalling after Trump cut off their free ride.

http://tinyurl.com/yablrdwt

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 06:05 AM (mpXpK)

13 Ramirez (repeat)

http://tinyurl.com/y8wxnpcb

And that's it for today.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 06:05 AM (mpXpK)

14 Now off to fix breakfast so I can take my drugs.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 06:07 AM (mpXpK)

15 First in the not-Vic category!

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 15, 2017 06:08 AM (gIRsn)

16 Thanks Vic. The pet supply story is maddening.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at October 15, 2017 06:10 AM (m9X4Y)

17 Not to defend Harvey or anything he has done, but, I find it strange that again the man? has been tried an convicted in one week of "news"

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 06:11 AM (8ikIW)

18 Good Morning Horde

Posted by: wing at October 15, 2017 06:12 AM (c9n2T)

19 CA fascists are moving into the pet allocation business now. This is what happens when there is no opposition party. Look out America.

Next up. Banning the car dealers from selling non-rescue cars.

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 06:13 AM (8ikIW)

20 Morning, krak.

Posted by: m at October 15, 2017 06:14 AM (1Xpas)

21 21

Posted by: firefirefire at October 15, 2017 06:14 AM (LVVMh)

22 yay!

Posted by: firefirefire at October 15, 2017 06:14 AM (LVVMh)

23 >>>17 Not to defend Harvey or anything he has done, but, I find it strange that again the man? has been tried an convicted in one week of "news"
Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 06:11 AM (8ikIW)

And, also not to defend Harvey or anything, but isn't it weird that he seems to have absolutely no friends? Or at least we're not getting stories about people accompanying him or ferrying things to him or speaking to the press on his behalf.

Posted by: m at October 15, 2017 06:18 AM (1Xpas)

24 And, also not to defend Harvey or anything, but isn't it weird that he seems to have absolutely no friends? Or at least we're not getting stories about people accompanying him or ferrying things to him or speaking to the press on his behalf.
Posted by: m

Yeah, that too.
"I've dealt with Harvey for years, and he' never been anything but a fine upstanding person and a credit to the community"

If only he had done commercials for Jello

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 06:20 AM (8ikIW)

25 Yay, two eggs between toast with ham cheese, and sour creme. Have to use up that sour creme after eating all my baked potatoes.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 06:20 AM (mpXpK)

26 I've tried to imagine The Day His World Came Crashing Down: he went from being on the top of the world--of many worlds--to being a pariah. But it wasn't him that changed.

Posted by: m at October 15, 2017 06:24 AM (1Xpas)

27 Good morning yall. Go to be up early for the races. I see Springsteen is bringing people to tears at his Broadway show. I can see that, it would probably bring me to suicide.

Posted by: freaked at October 15, 2017 06:25 AM (UdKB7)

28 I am still waiting on you to die so I can fly out to CA and piss on your grave.

It's going to be a long line.

Posted by: 500,000 Viet Nam Veterans at October 15, 2017 06:26 AM (EgwCt)

29 I see Springsteen is bringing people to tears at his Broadway show.

Posted by: freaked

He should lay off the beans, or at least light a candle

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 06:26 AM (8ikIW)

30 Nobody believes me about the EMP threat either Vic. The amount of energy needed to induce a current to blow the whole grid is way more than what the Norms can produce.

Posted by: freaked at October 15, 2017 06:27 AM (UdKB7)

31 Norks not norms.

Posted by: freaked at October 15, 2017 06:27 AM (UdKB7)

32 11 CA fascists are moving into the pet allocation business now. This is what happens when there is no opposition party. Look out America.

http://tinyurl.com/yarjuedu
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 06:04 A

So the next move is black market purebred dogs and cats in California? What then? Amnesty for Calicoes? Sanctuary for St. Bernards? Undocumented Labradors?

Posted by: Bilwis, suddenly not a finicky eater at October 15, 2017 06:28 AM (tMFgx)

33 Now the Normans they were baddass but I don't think they had nukes.

Posted by: freaked at October 15, 2017 06:28 AM (UdKB7)

34 What time does a guy have to get outta bed to be top 10 around here? Its 03:30

Posted by: Phildirt at October 15, 2017 06:29 AM (W843Z)

35 It's going to be a long line.
Posted by: 500,000 Viet Nam Veterans

A good place to set up rehydration stations.
Sponsored by a local craft rehydrater

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 06:29 AM (8ikIW)

36 Can I adopt a neutered DEMO-CAT?......Oh they all come that way........

Posted by: saf at October 15, 2017 06:30 AM (cS/ge)

37 A good place to set up rehydration stations.
Sponsored by a local craft rehydrater

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 06:29 AM (8ikIW)

It's gonna be like the Muslins making the obligatory trip to Mecca.

Posted by: 500,000 Viet Nam Veterans at October 15, 2017 06:31 AM (EgwCt)

38 It's gonna be like the Muslins making the obligatory trip to Mecca.
Posted by: 500,000 Viet Nam Veterans

If I had a nearby plot, I'd be selling it or moving my loved one out now. After a few trips thru the rehydration stations, some guys aim might be a little off.

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 06:33 AM (8ikIW)

39 The pentagon has openly admitted they have no idea what the impact of any high altitude H-Bomb blast will be. It has never been tested. Like the AGW scam it is all hypothetical theory crap. They just haven't figured out a way to make money off of it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 06:33 AM (mpXpK)

40 Well the Sunday radio religious broadcasting has begun and will occupy the radio station until 1500 this afternoon.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 06:37 AM (mpXpK)

41 The pentagon has openly admitted they have no idea what the impact of any high altitude H-Bomb blast will be. It has never been tested. Like the AGW scam it is all hypothetical theory crap. They just haven't figured out a way to make money off of it.
Posted by: Vic

Could they do a couple lower level ones in 2 prime areas.

No, this isn't war. Just a test

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 06:38 AM (8ikIW)

42 41 Could they do a couple lower level ones in 2 prime areas.

No, this isn't war. Just a test

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 06:38 AM (8ikIW)

SF and LA?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 06:40 AM (mpXpK)

43 UPS delivered a package to the house yesterday that was for another person at another address.
Took 3 phone calls to get someone, one about 10 minutes long, to get them to pick it up.

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 06:41 AM (8ikIW)

44

This is interesting... during the Cuban Missile Crisis the US set off a high altitude nuke:

BLUEGILL TRIPLE PRIME Dominic test High altitude on Thor IRBM over Johnston Island area. Low Kiloton yield.

On Day 11.
On Day 13 the crisis was over.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 15, 2017 06:42 AM (EgwCt)

45 41: Could they do a couple lower level ones in 2 prime areas.

California. They are well on its way to Primitive status anyway.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 15, 2017 06:42 AM (E9Bpc)

46 SF and LA?
Posted by: Vic

That's a start

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 06:42 AM (8ikIW)

47 Huh. The NYT is worried about their credibility:

"In social media posts, our journalists must not express partisan opinions, promote political views, endorse candidates, make offensive comments or do anything else that undercuts The Times's journalistic reputation"

Posted by: freaked at October 15, 2017 06:43 AM (UdKB7)

48 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 15, 2017 06:44 AM (KCxzN)

49 make offensive comments or do anything else that undercuts The Times's journalistic reputation"
Posted by: freaked

Unless it's something against that Fukcface Trump. That guy should have his head cut off.

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 06:44 AM (8ikIW)

50 At least 2 inches of needed rain yesterday. So almost 4 in the past 3 days.
Feast of famine this summer

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 06:45 AM (8ikIW)

51
On Day 12 there was another nuke test:

CALAMITY Dominic Airdrop over Johnston Island area by B-52 Hydrogen bomb test. Yield 800 Kilotons.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 15, 2017 06:45 AM (EgwCt)

52 Feast OR famine

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 06:46 AM (8ikIW)

53 G'mornin' Horde !

I sense that coffee will be necessary.

brb

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at October 15, 2017 06:50 AM (z3Hmr)

54 Early bird gets the tequila worm!

Posted by: Hillary 20/20 at October 15, 2017 06:55 AM (bc2Lc)

55 Vic, congratulations on GA winning. You should move up to 3 in the rankings.
Makes me feel better that you only beat the Domers by 1.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at October 15, 2017 06:57 AM (N3JsI)

56 43 UPS delivered a package to the house yesterday that was for another person at another address.
Took 3 phone calls to get someone, one about 10 minutes long, to get them to pick it up.
Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 06:41 AM (8ikIW)

Last Christmas, UPS delivered a neighbor's package to my house. I took it to the UPS store where I have a PO box. They said they'd deliver it. 2 days later it showed up at my house again. So this time I called UPS. They said they'd send someone to pick it up in an hour. No one showed up. So I ended it up just delivering it to the neighbor myself. Should have just done that to begin with.

Posted by: sinalco at October 15, 2017 07:06 AM (yODqO)

57 So I ended it up just delivering it to the neighbor myself. Should have just done that to begin with.
Posted by: sinalco

I did that last week with another package from UPS. But yesterday it was raining like hell, the house it's going to is actually under construction and no one was around yesterday. I don't want to encourage the UPS driver that I'm a substation for him.

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 07:13 AM (8ikIW)

58 I know it's not the gardening thread, but the temp is supposed to get to 37 overnite. No frost or freeze warnings. I was wondering if I should cover the Mums.

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 07:14 AM (8ikIW)

59 55
Vic, congratulations on GA winning. You should move up to 3 in the rankings.
Makes me feel better that you only beat the Domers by 1.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at October 15, 2017 06:57 AM (N3JsI)

hah, 53-21. I meant to check that this morning and pure forgot about it. And Clemson lost too.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 07:15 AM (mpXpK)

60 Heavy fog out this morning.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 07:25 AM (mpXpK)

61 good morning glories

that EMP thing, I don't know any tech details for sure. It does seem we are vulnerable, but I doubt the Norks will try it, and are probably not capable at the moment. Long ago, when the shooting of some sub-station in CA almost caused a wider blackout, there was talk of being able to at least protect ??? certain transformers or something, I forget, at a less than astronomical price.

The military industrial complex does like to suck us dry, but it does seem important to remain the superpower, while most of the world is becoming more thuggish, not less. When Obama doubled the debt, he was handing out money to incompetent leftist friends and enemies like Iran. The rebuilding of the military is always left to Republicans. Looks like it is the same with infrastructure ... and health care, and welfare state ... man, 60-100 years of commie infiltration has inserted some bad policy at many levels.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 15, 2017 07:26 AM (/aIFg)

62 Very foggy. Been driving in it since 4.

Posted by: NCKate at October 15, 2017 07:27 AM (7+3OO)

63 Morning all. I'm playing a very addictive little game.

I'd tell you all what it is, but then you'd start playing it, too, and eventually only Wesley could save us.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 15, 2017 07:28 AM (wwL6Q)

64 Pkg was misdelivered to my place last Christmas. Tried to find house myself but # didn't exist. Finally took it to p.o. to be shipped back to sender. But only after writing 'Fragile. Contains Major Award' on it.

Posted by: Mr. Zip at October 15, 2017 07:29 AM (bc2Lc)

65 Did anyone read Ann Coulter's column this week about the Vegas shooter and the improbability of him being a 'professional gambler'? I'd love to get Ace's take.
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2017-10-11.html#read_more

Posted by: Average Jen at October 15, 2017 07:29 AM (aKPX1)

66 61 that EMP thing, I don't know any tech details for sure. It does seem we
are vulnerable, but I doubt the Norks will try it, and are probably not
capable at the moment. Long ago, when the shooting of some sub-station
in CA almost caused a wider blackout, there was talk of being able to at
least protect ??? certain transformers or something, I forget, at a
less than astronomical price.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 15, 2017 07:26 AM (/aIFg)

All that EMP crap is based on low voltage instrumentation being taken out in high altitude monitoring devices during those high altitude tests in the early 60s. No ground stuff was ever impacted.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 07:30 AM (mpXpK)

67 17,
"Not to defend Harvey or anything he has done, but, I find it strange
that again the man? has been tried an convicted in one week of "news"

The left has always said "perception is reality."

What this has meant is that their perception was forced to be our reality. Now however that is reversing and our perception is now their reality. This is what the "rectification of names" is. Bringing perception and reality together. It's been "a long time coming" and is "only just begun."

Posted by: geoffb at October 15, 2017 07:31 AM (zOpu5)

68 Lots of upsets and close games in college football yesterday.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 15, 2017 07:35 AM (398bZ)

69 Did anyone read Ann Coulter's column this week about the Vegas shooter and the improbability of him being a 'professional gambler'? I'd love to get Ace's take.
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2017-10-11.html#read_more
Posted by: Average Jen

Interesting. I don't know how money laundering works, but how does losing money at a casino launder money if you're not winning anything. It's just losing money then isn't it?

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 07:36 AM (8ikIW)

70 "I don't know how money laundering works, but how does losing money at a casino launder money if you're not winning anything."

I assume it's like this: Buy chips with dirty money. Lose 10-15%. Cash out and leave with clean money.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 15, 2017 07:39 AM (398bZ)

71 Morning.

That Coulter column spells out an aspect that's been troubling me about Paddock for some time.

It's well worth the read.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 15, 2017 07:40 AM (ul9CR)

72 I assume it's like this: Buy chips with dirty money. Lose 10-15%. Cash out and leave with clean money.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud

Okay, that makes a little more sense. You're not losing it all, just enough to clean up the bulk of it.

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 07:40 AM (8ikIW)

73 @17

The reason for the swift casting out of a man that was notorious pig and psychotic sexual predator was that it became publically known and it was apparent everyone in Whoreywood knew about and now these people are embarrassed.

The larger scandal in all of this is the absolute corruption of the NY AGs office.

That's been exposed as well so there's another reason for the reactions we're seeing.

Posted by: Kreplach at October 15, 2017 07:41 AM (Wtll+)

74 I assume it's like this: Buy chips with dirty money. Lose 10-15%. Cash out and leave with clean money.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud

Would you walk into the casino with a suitcase full of cash? Would that be a normal thing in Vegas?

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 07:43 AM (8ikIW)

75 I'm personally not a casino person at all. But as I do live in a town where gambling is legal, I've been dragged off to them enough times, and I've read a lot about how they work and how they make their money.

And as I understand it, the only possible way to "make a living" gambling in casinos is by counting cards-though you'll eventually get caught and blacklisted- at blackjack tables (as in the movie "21") - certainly not video poker.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 15, 2017 07:46 AM (ul9CR)

76 75 And as I understand it, the only possible way to
"make a living" gambling in casinos is by counting cards-though you'll
eventually get caught and blacklisted- at blackjack tables (as in the
movie "21") - certainly not video poker.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 15, 2017 07:46 AM (ul9CR)

I used to win at blackjack out in Reno before they started dealing from a shoe with three decks in it. I didn't count cards but I did keep track of all the face cards.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 07:50 AM (mpXpK)

77 "All that EMP crap is based on low voltage
instrumentation being taken out in high altitude monitoring devices
during those high altitude tests in the early 60s. No ground stuff was
ever impacted. Posted by: Vic

thanks Vic ... I had no idea they had actually tested that. Just a brief skimming does seem to indicate there was damage on the ground. I'd imagine the capability exists to produce much larger blasts today, but probably not held yet by the Norks.

http://futurescience.com/emp/test184.html

Posted by: illiniwek at October 15, 2017 07:52 AM (/aIFg)

78 BTW, blackjack is the ONLY casino game that you have a chance of winning at. The next best is probably craps playing the "pass bet" on the come out roll.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 07:54 AM (mpXpK)

79 The next best is probably craps playing the "pass bet" on the come out roll.
Posted by: Vic

What about Keno??

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 07:55 AM (8ikIW)

80 You guys with the EMP talk just cut it out.

Lights just went off and on and off and on and off and on again.

Shit and off again.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at October 15, 2017 07:55 AM (m9X4Y)

81 77 thanks Vic ... I had no idea they had actually
tested that. Just a brief skimming does seem to indicate there was
damage on the ground. I'd imagine the capability exists to produce much
larger blasts today, but probably not held yet by the Norks.

http://futurescience.com/emp/test184.html

Posted by: illiniwek at October 15, 2017 07:52 AM (/aIFg)

there was no intent to "test" for EMP, it was something they noticed after the test.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 07:56 AM (mpXpK)

82 Would you walk into the casino with a suitcase full of cash? Would that be a normal thing in Vegas?

Posted by: Bruce

yeah, makes one wonder how much of their profit is due to money laundering. That would probably include foreign money from various oligarch high rollers in enemy states. "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" apparently doesn't apply only to the wild partying.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 15, 2017 07:58 AM (/aIFg)

83 "Two EMP experts..."
An obvious telltale sign of fake news is the use of the word 'experts'. I mean for Gods' sake they still got acne problems.

Posted by: Corona at October 15, 2017 07:59 AM (G8IjC)

84 Bad night for Top Ten teams last night - four of them lost to unranked opponents, including one to my husband's school. He doesn't know it yet bc we fell asleep (game started at 9:45 our time) and he's still sleeping.

My team also won but is probably going to remain unranked. That was a weird game, apparently - one touchdown and four field goals. I couldn't watch it bc it was on ESPN.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at October 15, 2017 07:59 AM (JPRju)

85
There's people who are savants -- previously referred to as 'idiot savants' who have amazing mental abilities. If you saw the movie 'Rain Man' you'll remember Dustin Hoffman reciting the names and numbers from the phone book he had picked up.

My thinking, based on shooter having worked for both the IRS and as an accountant, that he had some special abilities with numbers. Which gambling is.

But it's not a normal mind. It's not a friendly mind. I've met and spent some time with a savant. It's not something I ever want to do again.

I play this stupid 'Free Cell' game sometimes. I win every time. My current streak is 1,293 games. The shooter only had to win about 51% of the time to make money. Or pick up some pattern and up his ante on selected hands.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 15, 2017 08:00 AM (EgwCt)

86 And yes, I'm really hoping Liberty Media will have a good streaming service, because there will be no F1 for me next year otherwise. :-(

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at October 15, 2017 08:00 AM (JPRju)

87 Up all night with a sick 4 yr old. She's sleeping now but I need a shower, some sleep and a 'ette that pats my head, makes me a sammich, and tells me it will be alright.

An EMP doesn't sound too bad right now.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 15, 2017 08:01 AM (tr2D7)

88 On the EMP topic, I highly recommend reading William Forstchen's book One Second After. The 90% mortality rate is totally believable since we'd immediately be living in a world of the mid 1800s.

Posted by: Obamaisacommunist at October 15, 2017 08:05 AM (RZW6E)

89 Vic We Have No Party

Thank you for those links. Much appreciated.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2017 08:07 AM (hyuyC)

90 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2017 08:08 AM (hyuyC)

91
Infamous pornographer Larry Flynt offering 10 million dollars to anyone offering evidence that would get Trump impeached.

/ got nothing to say

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 15, 2017 08:08 AM (EgwCt)

92 Infamous pornographer Larry Flynt offering 10 million dollars to anyone offering evidence that would get Trump impeached.

/ got nothing to say
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman

Because it's Trump's fault that Harvey is a disgusting pig? Why the hate Larry? Got a wobbly front wheel?

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 08:12 AM (8ikIW)

93 Infamous pornographer Larry Flynt offering 10 million dollars to anyone offering evidence that would get Trump impeached.

/ got nothing to say
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman

Because it's Trump's fault that Harvey is a disgusting pig? Why the hate Larry? Got a wobbly front wheel?

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 08:12 AM (8ikIW)

94 88 The 90% mortality rate is totally believable since we'd immediately be living in a world of the mid 1800s.

Posted by: Obamaisacommunist at October 15, 2017 08:05 AM (RZW6E)

Hurricane Andrew knocked out power through most of FL and literally destroyed southern FL and there was no 90% fatality rate. So I have to throw the BS flag on those threat mongers.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 08:13 AM (mpXpK)

95 Morning Salty - I've been pondering your catchphrase for some time.

Given the events of the past year and especially the last few months, I'd say we have succeeded in scared the living sh*t out of the leftists. They are starting to fall apart and have lost the capacity to appear normal to LIVs. We just need to keep it going.

Thanks Mr. President!!

Posted by: Tonypete at October 15, 2017 08:13 AM (tr2D7)

96 I have no idea why that posted twice. I will go to the barrel for a short time out. Do they serve breakfast there?

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 08:14 AM (8ikIW)

97 Hurricane Andrew knocked out power through most of FL and literally destroyed southern FL and there was no 90% fatality rate. So I have to throw the BS flag on those threat mongers.
Posted by: Vic

But in Puerto Rico...Genocide all over the place

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 08:15 AM (8ikIW)

98 I have no idea why that posted twice. I will go to the barrel for a short time out. Do they serve breakfast there?
Posted by: Bruce
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Yes, but only refried beans and twice baked potatoes.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 15, 2017 08:16 AM (tr2D7)

99 I play this stupid 'Free Cell' game sometimes. I win every time. My current streak is 1,293 games. The shooter only had to win about 51% of the time to make money. Or pick up some pattern and up his ante on selected hands.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 15, 2017 08:00 AM (EgwCt)

The problem is, you cannot win 51% of the time. It's VIDEO poker. The machines are programmed to make sure you don't. Even on the "best" (i.e. highest percentage) machines, according to experts.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 15, 2017 08:16 AM (ul9CR)

100
George Lopez booed off stage after Trump jokes flop at gala

Has he ever been funny?

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 15, 2017 08:16 AM (EgwCt)

101 Yes, but only refried beans and twice baked potatoes.
Posted by: Tonypete

Not bad, could be worse.

Could be worse.

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 08:17 AM (8ikIW)

102 Yes, Andrew was devastating. But help was available from surrounding states. You weren't alone. What if the entire country had no power, FOR MONTHS. What if the enemies of the US took advantage of the disaster by invading and none of our wonderful allies stepped up to help us. Just imagine the entire US supply chain coming to a halt. Death wouldn't be far away.

Posted by: Obamaisacommunist at October 15, 2017 08:17 AM (RZW6E)

103 Morning, y'all. Nice AM here in Texas...

And Vic starting off with a little Gibbons (Edward, not Euell) warms my cockles...

Don't forget Ed's take on mo' "... indulged the appetites of a man, and abused the claims of a prophet... the female sex, without reserve, was abandoned to his desires"

So yeah, Ol Harv is simply following the steps of mahomet...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 15, 2017 08:17 AM (MINbv)

104 George Lopez booed off stage after Trump jokes flop at gala

Has he ever been funny?
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman

Before Trump!! he was. Since then, like everything else, it's allllll Trumps fault George gets no laughs

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 08:18 AM (8ikIW)

105 This is a repeat of an earlier thread comment.

Again, I do not worry about EMP. I'm probably the most experienced here on its effects. Did some real world tests with a unique testing apparatus. Wrote a few articles back in the day in a specialized magazine and newsletters. Some are even declassified. The Navy used the test data results.

Getting the Compton electrons to have a high field strength, fast rise time EM field is difficult, especially for the NOKs. There is a limit to the area affected with high field strength EMP. I'll leave it at that.

We test our electronics with lightning every year. The EM field from lightning has a rise time of 100 nanoseconds, vice an EMP rise time of 10 nanoseconds. But the actual power is very low, comparable to a spark from your hand to the doorknob after walking on a rug in the winter.

The big issue is coupling the energy of EMP to the device. Wiring geometry is an issue. And the only thing that is vulnerable is silicon-based electronics where the coupled energy in a fast rise time burns out a chip or circuit. A mechanical link is not touched by EMP.

I worry more about Leftists in government.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2017 08:18 AM (hyuyC)

106 "Even on the "best" (i.e. highest percentage) machines, according to EXPERTS."

Posted by: Corona at October 15, 2017 08:19 AM (G8IjC)

107 97
But in Puerto Rico...Genocide all over the place

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 08:15 AM (8ikIW)

You would believe that if you listened to that idiot Democrat Mayor of San Juan.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 08:20 AM (mpXpK)

108 You would believe that if you listened to that idiot Democrat Mayor of San Juan.
Posted by: Vic

Has anyone asked her, how many provable genocides happened?

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 08:21 AM (8ikIW)

109 A mechanical link is not touched by EMP. "

See, you're trying to explain magik to those who believe 'lectricity comes from wall outlets.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 15, 2017 08:21 AM (MINbv)

110 >>>>>
Did anyone read Ann Coulter's column this week about the Vegas shooter
and the improbability of him being a 'professional gambler'? I'd love to
get Ace's take.

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2017-10-11.html#read_more

Posted by: Average Jen

Interesting. I don't know how money laundering works, but how does
losing money at a casino launder money if you're not winning anything.
It's just losing money then isn't it?
.
.
.All Casinos are used to launder money, that's why the Fed put those reporting rules into effect.

When we lived in CT we went to the Mohegan Sun casino and you could tell when when the "money movers" came by because there would be a big pile of discard pre paid Credit cards in the trash by the ATM machine.

They would buy up tons of those cards with their drug money and cash them in when they wanted cash. They don't care they are only getting 90 cents on the dollar because they can't use banks due to the reporting requirements.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 15, 2017 08:21 AM (+Dllb)

111 CA fascists are moving into the pet allocation business now. This is what happens when there is no opposition party. Look out America.
http://tinyurl.com/yarjuedu
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

Can the "Planet of the Apes" scenario be far behind?

Truth can be stranger than fiction.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 15, 2017 08:21 AM (nUkMr)

112 See, you're trying to explain magik to those who believe 'lectricity comes from wall outlets.
Posted by: Anon a mouse

And when you pull the plug from the wall, what happens to electrics in the cord? If it leaks out, do I still have to pay for it?

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 08:22 AM (8ikIW)

113 IIANM the entire island of PR is without power. Their grid was in shitty shape to begin with.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 08:23 AM (mpXpK)

114 George Lopez booed off stage after Trump jokes flop at gala

Has he ever been funny?
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 15, 2017 08:16 AM (EgwCt)

No, unless you consider having diarrhea funny.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 15, 2017 08:23 AM (y7DUB)

115 Good morning horde.

About California banning the sale of pet store cats and dogs. Not really sure about the cats, but dogs have been banned for pet store sales here for a long time. Maybe not legally banned, but pet stores won't sell them, and here's why that's a good thing.

Puppy mills. Those dogs you see in pet stores are bred from puppy mills. They are sick, they have malformations and diseases that are pften not detected until you have paid $1500 for a "Malt-Poo" which happens to be a mutt raised in a filthy cage by a sick mother who has had 4 litters that year. I am glad they are shutting that stuff down.

Not sure why cats and rabbits though. I don't think rabbits come out of a rabbit mill. Don't know enough about it to say. But puppies? - oh yeah. Shut that factory down.

Posted by: grammie winger - Go Cubs Go at October 15, 2017 08:24 AM (lwiT4)

116 Public Relations is without power?

Posted by: Corona at October 15, 2017 08:24 AM (G8IjC)

117 You would believe that if you listened to that idiot Democrat Mayor of San Juan. "

Noted here that a neighbor is back from 2 weeks there (rig guy and and all that). Says that the cleanup is just astounding - by the time he left (was in the N and E sides - the worst hit) cell service was back, grocery stores open, ATMs running, and primary roads cleared, gas stations open, and the airport is at 100%.

That should be celebrated as a major achievement.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 15, 2017 08:24 AM (MINbv)

118 108 Has anyone asked her, how many provable genocides happened?

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 08:21 AM (8ikIW)

I suspect the DNC is burning up the telephone lines asking for death news. The last death numbers I saw was 48. And that was from a direct impact.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 08:25 AM (mpXpK)

119 The EMP fears are based in part on what happened to the fledgling electrical grid back in the late 1800s.

The quest is can man or in this case the NORKs recreate the same effect on the earths surface the ol Sol did 125 years ago.

I am leaning towards no. Having said that I see little harm in hardening our systems to make local attacks do less damage. You don't need a nuke to do a lot of damage to the grid in a very short time.

Posted by: Big V at October 15, 2017 08:25 AM (MVE/7)

120
Interesting article about video poker odds:

http://www.oddsshark.com/casino/video-poker#videopokerodds

Video poker strategy can make a significant difference when playing this sometimes overlooked casino game. While VP offers a decent payback percentage to players under normal circumstances, the house edge can often be erased by following proper strategy based on the initial five-card hand.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 15, 2017 08:26 AM (EgwCt)

121 Anon a mouse. & Bruce

My program manager, back in the day, had a great story on that. He was a history major, but he studied and did his homework. He was interviewed on EMP by "a drop-dead gorgeous blond TV reporter with large blue eyes you could swim in."

The first time he said nanosecond rise time "Her eyes rolled up to the top of her vacuous head."

Or words to that effect.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2017 08:27 AM (hyuyC)

122 And when you pull the plug from the wall, what happens to electrics in the cord? If it leaks out, do I still have to pay for it?"

Well sure - it's just like those last few drops from a gas pump....

Snort.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 15, 2017 08:27 AM (MINbv)

123 When Obama doubled the debt, he was handing out money to incompetent leftist friends and enemies like Iran. The rebuilding of the military is always left to Republicans. Looks like it is the same with infrastructure ... and health care, and welfare state ... man, 60-100 years of commie infiltration has inserted some bad policy at many levels.
Posted by: illiniwek at October 15, 2017 07:26 AM

What is this years of bad policy of which you speak?

Posted by: The Mayor of San Juan, Puerto Rico at October 15, 2017 08:27 AM (DMUuz)

124 "Her eyes rolled up to the top of her vacuous head."

She had eyes?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 15, 2017 08:28 AM (MINbv)

125 119 I am leaning towards no. Having said that I see
little harm in hardening our systems to make local attacks do less
damage. You don't need a nuke to do a lot of damage to the grid in a
very short time.

Posted by: Big V at October 15, 2017 08:25 AM (MVE/7)

Are you willing to pay $1,000/month electric bills to pay for that?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 08:28 AM (mpXpK)

126 " The shooter only had to win about 51% of the time to make money. Or pick up some pattern and up his ante on selected hands.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman

But he played video poker they said, and the machines digitally "use a new deck" every deal, they say. There is just no way to beat such a machine that pays out even 99%.

It was guessed by some that he played for comps ... play big money to get comped, and lose a lot less than it would otherwise cost. One casino had banned him for such, a report said.

But $5M profit? That had to be a tax accounting thing, and the only reason claim that as income is to launder dirty money. He was an IRS guy, knew how it worked. It would seem the casino would be required to track how much money was coming in from a gambler. Maybe there are limits for recording, like if he buys in under $5K at a time or something. So he stays under the limit, but cashes out when he gets over maybe $10K at a time, and claims that.

Maybe he was selling guns, or maybe he was laundering for someone else, or maybe his Daddy left him a box with $40M in marked bills in it.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 15, 2017 08:28 AM (/aIFg)

127 Are you willing to pay $1,000/month electric bills to pay for that?
Posted by: Vic

We must.
For the Children

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 08:28 AM (8ikIW)

128 We must.
For the Children"

And the retirement fund. Why you hate old people?

Snort.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 15, 2017 08:30 AM (MINbv)

129 But in Puerto Rico...Genocide all over the place

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 08:15 AM (8ikIW)

You would believe that if you listened to that idiot Democrat Mayor of San Juan.

Or our beloved Gov Cuomo here in NYS, who has been traveling back and forth to PR. He says Trump isn't helping at all, When I become president, I will fix everything. (he still thinks he will be president in 2020)

Posted by: Colin at October 15, 2017 08:30 AM (tN7C7)

130 "The 90% mortality rate is totally believable since we'd immediately be living in a world of the mid 1800s."

I dunno about that. First, it assumes that absolutely everything electronic or run by electricity, throughout the entire nation, would be impossible to repair or replace.

Second, while people who were dependent upon electrically operated apparatus (e.g. ventilators) to survive, or who required major surgery or other sophisticated medical interventions (dialysis), would probably die, why would reasonably healthy people who weren't currently dependent upon prescription meds or other complex measures to survive also die? I suppose the assumption is they would all starve to death because the food supply chain would be interrupted, but I'd think there would be ways to get around that, even if you just had to forage for canned goods or eat grass for a while.

Posted by: Secret Square at October 15, 2017 08:30 AM (9WuX0)

131 Well the Sunday radio religious broadcasting has begun and will occupy the radio station until 1500 this afternoon.

Good! I'm glad that some folks are still able to proclaim Jesus and are not cowed by the political correctness of the leftists. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2017 08:31 AM (iVOAv)

132 ... "a drop-dead gorgeous blond TV reporter with large blue eyes you could swim in."

The first time he said nanosecond rise time "Her eyes rolled up to the top of her vacuous head."

While The Paolo's rise time is more like milliseconds, he observes the same effect all the time.

Posted by: Paolo at October 15, 2017 08:31 AM (DMUuz)

133 even if you just had to forage for canned goods or eat grass for a while.
Posted by: Secret Square

Or looting the Food King

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 08:31 AM (8ikIW)

134 Cuomo sucks MS13 dick.

Posted by: Corona at October 15, 2017 08:31 AM (G8IjC)

135 130 Second, while people who were dependent upon
electrically operated apparatus (e.g. ventilators) to survive, or who
required major surgery or other sophisticated medical interventions
(dialysis), would probably die, why would reasonably healthy people who
weren't currently dependent upon prescription meds or other complex
measures to survive also die? I suppose the assumption is they would all
starve to death because the food supply chain would be interrupted, but
I'd think there would be ways to get around that, even if you just had
to forage for canned goods or eat grass for a while.

Posted by: Secret Square at October 15, 2017 08:30 AM (9WuX0)

Hospitals have back up generators which would not be affected if they were shutdown at the time of the blast. They and people on ventilators (and similar) are at the top of the list for power restoration following an outage.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 08:33 AM (mpXpK)

136 But he played video poker they said, and the machines digitally "use a new deck" every deal, they say. There is just no way to beat such a machine that pays out even 99%.

From my link above:
"Deuces Wild

Two cards are considered in this version of the game. While a royal flush comprised of one or more wild cards pays 125 credits, a natural royal flush is far more valuable with a 4000-coin payout. Using a simple strategy on the full-pay version of this game yields an expected return of 100.71%, which means the player actually has an advantage over the house.

snip...

That’s not an easy edge to find in a casino, and finding one of these games without a professional playing at it is no easy feat for a player."

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 15, 2017 08:33 AM (EgwCt)

137
"In social media posts, our journalists must not express partisan opinions, promote political views, endorse candidates, make offensive comments or do anything else that undercuts The Times's journalistic reputation"

Yeah. Save it for work.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2017 08:34 AM (oVJmc)

138 Someone here, [redacted ], had a well thought out plan to raid a Costco. Lots of distribution center targets all around.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2017 08:34 AM (hyuyC)

139 even if you just had to forage for canned goods or eat grass for a while."

Foragers = Food. Weatherby 7MM, for when you want to reach out and touch 'em.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 15, 2017 08:34 AM (MINbv)

140
Backup generators depend on fuel which will have to be pumped out of the ground. They work for a number of days, dependent on tank storage size, but after that...

Nada.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 15, 2017 08:36 AM (EgwCt)

141 Vic We Have No Party

Everyone forgets about the advances in generator technology. I trust electrical companies and linemen much more than I trust the usual politician.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2017 08:37 AM (hyuyC)

142 73
@17

The reason for the swift casting out of a man that was notorious pig
and psychotic sexual predator was that it became publically known and
it was apparent everyone in Whoreywood knew about and now these people
are embarrassed.

The larger scandal in all of this is the absolute corruption of the NY AGs office.

That's been exposed as well so there's another reason for the reactions we're seeing.
=======================================================
"Embarrassed implies they have a conscience. I think it's more fear-based than anything. Harv became the sacrificial steer to keep middle America from taking up pitchforks. Or something.

Posted by: TooLateforThat at October 15, 2017 08:37 AM (ev1Yh)

143 but after that... "

We'll be glad to sell you some fuels. Bartertown is right over there...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 15, 2017 08:38 AM (MINbv)

144
Not TooLate for the barrel for margin disrespect.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 15, 2017 08:39 AM (EgwCt)

145 emp 90% mortality...

eloi & morlocks and we'd be the morlocks, i assume.
not a great look, and an odd diet, but i think i could get used to it...

progress!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at October 15, 2017 08:40 AM (AxFdW)

146 Slippery Slope Salesman

Unless there are

a) bad guys having a large number of H-bombs specially configured for exo-atmosphere Compton electron generation, and
b) lack of National Command Authority nuclear response,

no worries.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2017 08:41 AM (hyuyC)

147 109
See, you're trying to explain magik to those who believe 'lectricity comes from wall outlets.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 15, 2017 08:21 AM (MINbv)

Or ice cream trucks.

Posted by: rickl at October 15, 2017 08:41 AM (sdi6R)

148 I love that pic of Hillary giving Harvey a big Clinton smile in the pic I saw. She wouldn't give the rest of use the time of day....

Posted by: Colin at October 15, 2017 08:42 AM (tN7C7)

149 140

Backup generators depend on fuel which will have to be pumped out of
the ground. They work for a number of days, dependent on tank storage
size, but after that...

Nada.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 15, 2017 08:36 AM (EgwCt)

All the backup generators that I have been familiar with supplied power to the pumps that delivered their fuel. The generator itself usually has a couple of hundred gallons of standby fuel depending on the size of the generator. The generator would be pointless if it didn't.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 08:42 AM (mpXpK)

150 Serious question - if the zombie apocalypse occurs, how will you identify other armed, but friendly, groups?

I know of two unmarked dry grocery goods distro centers nearby. I can get there easily and break in. But, when the other armed foragers arrive, how to id the homicidal/crazy and fight them off but allow other like-minded to enter and help set up shop.

Or, is the time for that now - to organize as a reinforced platoon with no outsiders (later) to be brought into the fold?

Posted by: Tonypete at October 15, 2017 08:42 AM (tr2D7)

151 Worship song for Sunday morning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYQ5yXCc_CA

"Are you hurting and broken within?
Overwhelmed by the weight of your sin?
Jesus is calling.

Have you come to the end of yourself?
Do you thirst for a drink from the well?
Jesus is calling.

O come to the altar -
The Father's arms are open wide.

Forgiveness was bought with
The precious blood of Jesus Christ."

Posted by: grammie winger - Go Cubs Go at October 15, 2017 08:42 AM (lwiT4)

152 ... progress...

marching and spinning and tumbling ever forward...

progress!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at October 15, 2017 08:42 AM (AxFdW)

153 Or, is the time for that now - to organize as a reinforced platoon with no outsiders (later) to be brought into the fold?

Posted by: Tonypete

Stock up on Korean Roof Snipers now!

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 08:43 AM (8ikIW)

154 The Spiritual law of gravity-A devotional from Brooklyn Tabernacle:

http://tinyurl.com/ycoq7q88

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2017 08:43 AM (iVOAv)

155 The larger scandal in the Weinstein affair is the corruption of the NY AG office, his close personal friendship and support of high profile Democrats (including and most importantly the Clinton Crime Family and Herself) and the spiking of this sordid 'story' from our betters at NBC and probably all other big media people. The cockroaches are scattering. They want to contain this mess before it spreads any further.

Posted by: Goldilocks at October 15, 2017 08:43 AM (zz1sH)

156
How are you going to have fuel delivered when the pumps to put fuel into the truck aren't working? Gravity feed? Hand pumps filling up a 200 gallon fuel tank? Okay. Now try that with 8,000 gallons to deliver to a hospital.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 15, 2017 08:44 AM (EgwCt)

157 Oh, and the Obamas ae up to their eyeballs with The Harv too. Not much interest in pursuing that story, eh? Imagine if Tiffany Trump had interned with that slimebag?

Posted by: Goldilocks at October 15, 2017 08:44 AM (zz1sH)

158 how will you identify other armed, but friendly, groups? "

You just did. It's the unarmed (or more likely some in the group armed, others doing their bidding) groups who will be unfriendly.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 15, 2017 08:45 AM (MINbv)

159
Feast OR famine

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 06:46 AM (8ikIW)

In Texas, droughts are ended by floods and vice versa.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 15, 2017 08:47 AM (P4bEn)

160
I guess you could have a dedicated electric plant on the site of a refinery. But if the refineries can't continue to produce, there's no fuel at some point in time, anywhere.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 15, 2017 08:47 AM (EgwCt)

161 Speaking of puppy mills, dog owners I talk with at parks tell me the Amish are the absolute worst offenders; that some of the guys have rescued dogs that were skin and bones to get them the fuck out of there. Was not expecting that after all the close-to-the-earth stuff I've been fed. Fuckers.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 15, 2017 08:48 AM (y7DUB)

162 Hand pumps"

Sure. Won't be busy doing anything else...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 15, 2017 08:48 AM (MINbv)

163 the Amish are the absolute worst offenders"

well, duh - they haven't figured out how to open the cans of dog food.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 15, 2017 08:49 AM (MINbv)

164 Good morning, lovies! I see we're all in a very doom-y mood today. Special occasion or what?

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2017 08:50 AM (14URa)

165 156

How are you going to have fuel delivered when the pumps to put fuel
into the truck aren't working? Gravity feed? Hand pumps filling up a 200
gallon fuel tank? Okay. Now try that with 8,000 gallons to deliver to a
hospital.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 15, 2017 08:44 AM (EgwCt)

There are a number of fuel services located usually within 200 miles of of any place that would need emergency fuel delivered. We have a distribution center here in Charlotte. The problem would be the high number of places who would need delivery. But that is offset by the amount of fuel that the sites keep in standby. We had a 20,000 gal tank for the main backup generators and a 5,000 gal tank for a smaller generator. That was supposed to be enough for 7 days at full load on the generator. And the generator would not be a full load anyway.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 08:50 AM (mpXpK)

166 Speaking of puppy mills, dog owners I talk with at
parks tell me the Amish are the absolute worst offenders; that some of
the guys have rescued dogs that were skin and bones to get them the fuck
out of there. Was not expecting that after all the close-to-the-earth
stuff I've been fed. Fuckers.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 15, 2017 08:48 AM (y7DUB)

I live near Amish country in upstate NY and have heard the same stories. They are even rough on their horses, which is their prime mode of transportation.

Posted by: Colin at October 15, 2017 08:52 AM (tN7C7)

167 "And the only thing that is vulnerable is
silicon-based electronics where the coupled energy in a fast rise time
burns out a chip or circuit. A mechanical link is not touched by EMP.
I worry more about Leftists in government.

Posted by: NaCly Dog

yeah, definitely the leftists ... but in the meantime the rest can't be left vulnerable. That is what is insidious about guys like Obama that (with help no doubt) destroy our capabilities from within. obama, the first prez raised by actual Soviet era card carrying commies.

But on the EMP, it is the damage to the silicon chips that is the issue. They run so much now. Would vehicles run if they were subjected to a strong EMP? I'm guess the electronic ignition may have a chip controlling it ... or combines and heavy equipment, the transportation system including air traffic?

I have no idea, except we hear the gloom and doom predictions of the cascading effects. But if our enemies do that to us and try to follow through with war, that would be the real threat. But stopping the anti-America threat internally (patriotism is now racist?) is indeed the front line conflict.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 15, 2017 08:52 AM (/aIFg)

168 Peaches

No, we are hopeful. Glad you, Fluffy and the kittens are so happy with the move.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2017 08:53 AM (hyuyC)

169 And when you pull the plug from the wall, what happens to electrics in the cord? If it leaks out, do I still have to pay for it?
Posted by: Bruce
------------

More to the point, consider this; AC current is just that, it flows in one direction, and then in the other. What flows in, matches what flows out.

Big Power has been scamming us for 100 years. We never actually get to keep that electricity that we've been paying for.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 15, 2017 08:53 AM (9tO1t)

170 George Lopez should join the GOP since he hasn't kept his campaign promise to leave the country. Rove and Se�or Yeb would be so happy.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 15, 2017 08:54 AM (y7DUB)

171 If anyone is interested check out this platform called "Hope" by Purpose Climate Lab it's for those that are "exhausted living in Trumps world" have a place they can go to...

Posted by: KWDreaming at October 15, 2017 08:55 AM (S6xeB)

172 Big Power has been scamming us for 100 years. We never actually get to keep that electricity that we've been paying for.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc

I'll show them. I'll put a valve in to stop the flow out and a big bucket to hold the overflow.

Winning!

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 08:55 AM (8ikIW)

173 Just wanted to share a "God-incidence" (something that non believers would call a coincidence) that happened yesterday. Our town had a fair to support the local food bank and our church had a table. I suggested an idea and my husband made up yellow tee shirts-"Need Prayer? Just ask" with the name of our church underneath it. We had some pamphlets and devotional books to give out We also had a prayer request box. We did not have the fancy funds or volunteers that the large community church (formerly called Baptist) gave out (Their booth was next to ours) but we did have some nice conversations and meaningful prayers with people in need of prayer, and I enjoyed talking with the community church volunteers.

At any rate, there was a man who stopped by my office during this past week. He hadn't called first and I wasn't there, but the wonderful church pianist was, and they had a nice conversation. He was a Gideon. He was looking to pray with pastors.
The pianist told him to come back yesterday at our booth and he did, but I had to go home for something while other people manned the table.
When I came back I parked at the church and who should be coming up the driveway to get his car-the Gideon and his wife!. We had a great conversation and he prayed with me. If I hadn't been there at that time we would have missed each other. What a great couple! Thanks be to God for that "God incidence."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2017 08:56 AM (iVOAv)

174
The response to any lecturing by anyone from Hollywood needs to be, "Harvey Weinstein - what did you know and when did you first know it?"

They have no basis from which to criticize anyone or anything until they answer those questions. And they're dunces in the bargain.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2017 08:56 AM (pNxlR)

175 Would vehicles run if they were subjected to a strong EMP?"

Most "modern", sort of - all have a "limp home" mode that allows the vehicle to operate, albeit not very well if the BCM/ECM craps out.
Thus my 2 truck system - one shiny and new, one not so shiny.

And yes, that means I have 2 trucks. Earth day every day here!

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 15, 2017 08:56 AM (MINbv)

176 The EMP issues are many. It is not just turning off the grid. It is also all the electronics. If they all burn out then it doesn't matter if you have backup power.

But I don't think the range is as great as all that. And if NK or anyone pops a nuke over the US I think there will be bigger worries.

Posted by: blaster at October 15, 2017 08:56 AM (jHrzU)

177
I'll show them. I'll put a valve in to stop the flow out and a big bucket to hold the overflow.

Winning!
Posted by: Bruce
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*high five*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 15, 2017 08:57 AM (9tO1t)

178 173 At any rate, there was a man who stopped by my
office during this past week. He hadn't called first and I wasn't there,
but the wonderful church pianist was, and they had a nice conversation.
He was a Gideon. He was looking to pray with pastors.

The pianist told him to come back yesterday at our booth and he
did, but I had to go home for something while other people manned the
table.

When I came back I parked at the church and who should be coming up
the driveway to get his car-the Gideon and his wife!. We had a great
conversation and he prayed with me. If I hadn't been there at that time
we would have missed each other. What a great couple! Thanks be to God
for that "God incidence."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2017 08:56 AM (iVOAv)

My youngest brother is a member of the Gideons.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 08:58 AM (mpXpK)

179 They are even rough on their horses, which is their prime mode of transportation.
Posted by: Colin at October 15, 2017 08:52 AM (tN7C7)

Damn, I almost added that they must treat their horses well in comparison because they need them. Maybe having family trees that look like telephone poles leads to this.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 15, 2017 08:58 AM (y7DUB)

180 Vic It kinda depends how much fixing it would cost no?
I pay for insurance on all kinds of things. Would you be willing to pay 10 more a month? 50?

Right now there are large sections of the country that can lose power for days with a bad wind storm in the wrong spot. This has already happened.

Our power grid is vulnerable it will not take a nuke to take out big parts of it .

The thing that piss me of the most about all this is we spent money already to fix these things during Obama's term.

Money got diverted because hardening the grid and fixing the roads would give jobs to men and none of the issues got fixed. Our roads are approaching 3rd world status. Rural power relays have not been upgraded since the Vietnam war was going on.

Posted by: Big V at October 15, 2017 08:58 AM (MVE/7)

181 Good morning grammie,
I was wondering if you you saw my comment to you yesterday on the pre, mid, post part of that thread yesterday.
I got there late and didn't see a reply, even a 'hi teej, thanks', which is rare for you.
If I'm being a nag, just say so.
I'll let it go.

Posted by: teej at October 15, 2017 08:58 AM (3iAUW)

182 153 Or, is the time for that now - to organize as a reinforced platoon with no outsiders (later) to be brought into the fold?

Posted by: Tonypete

Stock up on Korean Roof Snipers now!
Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 08:43 AM (8ikIW)

This. Plus, you know, someone like me could come in handy.

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 15, 2017 08:59 AM (NWiLs)

183 illiniwek

The weak power of an EMP event must be gathered and distributed to have the effect on electronics. That depends on wires or other unshielded metal objects catching the energy and then flowing to the electronics.

A 50 KV EMP field strength sounds big, but it only last for nanoseconds, so not a lot of energy in the pulse.

In one of my test I was outside and close for every pulse, at max power. Set a very minor but secret world record then.

My digital watch blanked and reset every pulse. But I was fine. No really. Just do not ask my wife.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 15, 2017 08:59 AM (hyuyC)

184 My youngest brother is a member of the Gideons.
Posted by: Vic
---------------

We had a Gideon in to 'teach' a Sunday school class. The fellow was very committed and enthusiastic.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 15, 2017 09:00 AM (9tO1t)

185 And yes, that means I have 2 trucks. Earth day every day here!
Posted by: Anon a mouse

It would be nice if you could still buy a new vehicle without all of the electronic crap.
I would like one with a heater/air conditioner that didn't require a touch screen. How hard was it to move a little lever up or down for the fan, one sideways for more or less heat, and another for air, heat, vent

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 09:00 AM (8ikIW)

186 The EMP issues are many."

It's "digital" vs "analog".

One fan we keep in the back room has a circuit board and even a remote, all of which could be "fried" by an EMP. The fan upstairs has a mechanical switch, a fuse, and an old school electric motor (brushes and all). That's not getting fried by anything less that a serious overload...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 15, 2017 09:01 AM (MINbv)

187 At any rate, there was a man who stopped by my office during this past week. He hadn't called first and I wasn't there, but the wonderful church pianist was, and they had a nice conversation. He was a Gideon. He was looking to pray with pastors.

Was he a 12-inch pianist?

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 15, 2017 09:02 AM (NWiLs)

188 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 15, 2017 09:00 AM (9tO1t)

It was such a blessing to have him pray! I know people pray for their pastors-and we deeply appreciate it-but to have him pray right then, I was on a cloud for the next couple of hours.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2017 09:02 AM (iVOAv)

189 That vicious antisemite CBD has the book thread up.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 15, 2017 09:02 AM (qJtVm)

190 Get yer pants on. Book Thread is Nood

Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 09:02 AM (8ikIW)

191 >>>>I have no idea, except we hear the gloom and doom predictions of the
cascading effects. But if our enemies do that to us and try to follow
through with war, that would be the real threat. But stopping the
anti-America threat internally (patriotism is now racist?) is indeed the
front line conflict.
.
.
.The point is, no one has any idea on the effects of specifically configuring a Nuclear Weapon to turn it into an EMP device. The Russians allegedly did some research on that but it never got to the West.

I expect this is just another scare attempt like Y2K, Peak Oil, Global Warming, Nuclear Winter, Acid Rain, Global Cooling, etc.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 15, 2017 09:03 AM (+Dllb)

192 Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 15, 2017 09:02 AM (NW

Huh?

The pianist is a woman.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2017 09:03 AM (iVOAv)

193 EMP attack, no worries, Ben Had's Horse emporium can supply all your needs.

We got riders and drivers and rider/driver combo's.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 15, 2017 09:04 AM (WQddQ)

194 180 Right now there are large sections of the country
that can lose power for days with a bad wind storm in the wrong spot.
This has already happened.

Our power grid is vulnerable it will not take a nuke to take out big parts of it .

The thing that piss me of the most about all this is we spent money already to fix these things during Obama's term.

Money got diverted because hardening the grid and fixing the roads
would give jobs to men and none of the issues got fixed. Our roads are
approaching 3rd world status. Rural power relays have not been
upgraded since the Vietnam war was going on.

Posted by: Big V at October 15, 2017 08:58 AM (MVE/7)

Most places lose power for weeks after a major hurricane. When I Hugo came through SC in 1989 I lost power for 7 days even though the path was about 25 miles south of me. There were parts of the State down near the beach that were without power for over a month.

And BTW, I have been to third world countries, and our roads are not as bad as the crap they have.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 09:04 AM (mpXpK)

195 Good morning grammie,

I was wondering if you you saw my comment to you yesterday on the pre, mid, post part of that thread yesterday.

I got there late and didn't see a reply, even a 'hi teej, thanks', which is rare for you.

If I'm being a nag, just say so.

I'll let it go.

Posted by: teej at October 15, 2017 08:58 AM (3iAUW)
=======================

No, I didn't see your post, teej. "Hi teej, thanks!" LOL

Posted by: grammie winger - Go Cubs Go at October 15, 2017 09:04 AM (lwiT4)

196 Hurricane Harvey,
NFL ratings collapse,
Cord cutting,
Trump EOs,
and who knows what else,
and I'm still not tired of winning.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 15, 2017 09:05 AM (oVJmc)

197 I would like one with a heater/air conditioner that didn't require a touch screen. "

So we decided to get one of the new F 150's (she who must be obeyed liked it, so there). It's pretty well pimped out, and one can actually tell it to change the temps - and on which side of the cab.
It's a fun toy. And will run approx 6 sec 0 to 60 times...

(think about that - something the size of a condo roaring along...)

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 15, 2017 09:05 AM (MINbv)

198 180,
"The thing that piss me of the most about all this is we spent money already to fix these things during Obama's term.

Money got diverted"

So it's the New Orleans levees on a national scale.

Posted by: geoffb at October 15, 2017 09:06 AM (zOpu5)

199 Fenelon, last year the Gideons in our area put on a banquet just for pastors, missionaries and their wives. It was wonderful! They treated us like kings and queens. Filet mignon - the works, at no expense to ourselves. They said they just wanted us to know we are loved and prayed for. They are awesome people.

Posted by: grammie winger - Go Cubs Go at October 15, 2017 09:06 AM (lwiT4)

200
104 George Lopez booed off stage after Trump jokes flop at gala

Has he ever been funny?
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman

Before Trump!! he was. Since then, like everything else, it's allllll Trumps fault George gets no laughs
Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2017 08:18 AM (8ikIW)

Trump stole his mojo! Or his mojito... one of them, anyway.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2017 09:07 AM (pNxlR)

201 Off to church - have a great morning!!

Posted by: grammie winger - Go Cubs Go at October 15, 2017 09:09 AM (lwiT4)

202 " personal friendship and support of high profile
Democrats (including and most importantly the Clinton Crime Family and
Herself) .... The cockroaches are scattering.
They want to contain this mess before it spreads any further." Posted by: Goldilocks

Dems have basically been running a "mafia" in the US with a strong socail justice narrative always providing cover. To me that is what communism really is ... organized crime that has control of government. The people are just tools to feed the machine.

That is why it is so significant that Holder supplied guns to cartels, that Lynch oversaw the (at least, that we know of) $2B of money laundering by HSBC, and that international bankers pressured our government to give them a pass (and they got it, even as our prosecutors had the case won).

And that is why I think Comey/Rosenstein/Mueller are nothing but corrupt "mob hit men", but their hits are with their unlimited investigative powers, instead of straight murder (though straight murder does seem to be in the bag of tricks of the Dem mob).

Posted by: illiniwek at October 15, 2017 09:09 AM (/aIFg)

203 192 Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 15, 2017 09:02 AM (NW

Huh?

The pianist is a woman.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2017 09:03 AM (iVOAv)

It's a punchline to a joke.

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 15, 2017 09:09 AM (NWiLs)

204 Posted by: grammie winger - Go Cubs Go at October 15, 2017 09:06 AM (lwiT4)

What a blessing!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2017 09:10 AM (iVOAv)

205 "Hi teej, thanks!" LOL

Annnd that's just one of many reasons I love ya like a sister, which you are.

Posted by: teej at October 15, 2017 09:10 AM (3iAUW)

206 Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 15, 2017 09:09 AM (NWiLs)

I figured it was, dear, but I don't know the rest of the joke so it was a bit of a puzzle.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2017 09:11 AM (iVOAv)

207 Posted by: teej at October 15, 2017 08:58 AM (3iAUW)

Hi, teej!! Lovely to see you this morning!

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2017 09:11 AM (14URa)

208 I expect this is just another scare attempt like Y2K, Peak Oil, Global Warming, Nuclear Winter, Acid Rain, Global Cooling, etc.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 15, 2017 09:03 AM (+Dllb)

Haven't heard the acid rain hot steaming pile for a while. Wasn't New England supposed to be a barren wasteland of vinegar lakes by now? Those cocksuckers never tire of making complete fools of themselves.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 15, 2017 09:11 AM (y7DUB)

209 208 Haven't heard the acid rain hot steaming pile for a
while. Wasn't New England supposed to be a barren wasteland of vinegar
lakes by now? Those cocksuckers never tire of making complete fools of
themselves.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 15, 2017 09:11 AM (y7DUB)

They used to rave about the acid rain killing the pine trees in the Appalachian mountains. Never mind that one of the most acidic trees there is in nature is the pine tree.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 15, 2017 09:13 AM (mpXpK)

210 Peaches!!

Was so glad to hear the move went as well as could be expected.
You're now living in pretty close proximity to where I had 10 years of "The Best of times, the worst of times."

Posted by: teej at October 15, 2017 09:15 AM (3iAUW)

211 206 Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 15, 2017 09:09 AM (NWiLs)

I figured it was, dear, but I don't know the rest of the joke so it was a bit of a puzzle.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2017 09:11 AM (iVOAv)

Ah, I figured it was just part of distributed Horde knowledge.

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 15, 2017 09:17 AM (NWiLs)

212 I have been to 3rd world countries too Vic. And what I saw driving this summer scared me and I never left the east coast of the USA this year.

Posted by: Big V at October 15, 2017 09:18 AM (MVE/7)

213 George Lopez was never funny.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at October 15, 2017 09:23 AM (nWc4E)

214 Look. Damn it. The NFL is not an "American institution." The NFL is and has always been the Harvey Weinstein of consumer sports. "We" should have never allowed them to start playing the national anthem at their gladiations.

And "our" power grid, is, not. Government-controlled electric rates were deliberately misdirected to link us all up into a great brotherhood of losers. When the first famous grid failure happened in 1965, the grid had Niagara Falls (no, MORON, it's not "Niagra" because it rhymes with Viagra) on one end and New York City on the other, because NYC is an energy black hole that you could pour the rest of the US into and still come up dim. And that was so much fun, we decided we all wanted to be like that!

And so, even though in the 60's every city or county had its own generation plant and "grid" was accomplished with great big Frankenstein switches with a burly operatin' engineer wearing bib overalls manning it, we went right to work destroying that interference-proof distributed economy and replacing it at vast expense with a transistorized funnel leading to the precious East Coast. And now a tree branch in Akron can put the lights out in DC. What an accomplishment. We can put a man on the Moon, and shoot ourselves in both feet too.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 15, 2017 09:27 AM (H5rtT)

215 The pianist mightier!

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at October 15, 2017 09:28 AM (3DZIZ)

216 162
Hand pumps"

Sure. Won't be busy doing anything else...

Posted by: Anon a mouse...

Speak for yourself! My hands are always busy!

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at October 15, 2017 09:31 AM (iHUu4)

217 It would be nice if you could still buy a new vehicle without all of the electronic crap.

You know, I get a catalogue of beautiful used Studebakers, once a month.
They are impervious to electronic attack (except a few of the 64's which had electronic ignition modules before even Chrysler had them).

You need "new'" if you're relying on factory dealership warranty, or, bank financing. There is no other reason to buy "new."

And so you stand in line and pony up a big premium to put yourself at the mercy of the federal transportation administrators who run the car industry, and the federal finance ministers who control the bank. You do this, why?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 15, 2017 09:31 AM (H5rtT)

218 It would be nice if you could still buy a new vehicle without all of the electronic crap.

I want my 2002 Jeep to last the rest of my life. And if it doesn't, I will get the most mechanical, least tech-y vehicle available.

Posted by: Peaches at October 15, 2017 09:32 AM (14URa)

219 Hey Waffle House never closes,and they have enuf GREASE in there to last 6 weeks..."FAT FIRES FEED FUCKS" NY Times
Sunday edition.

Posted by: saf at October 15, 2017 09:34 AM (cS/ge)

220 Posted by: Tonypete at October 15, 2017 08:01 AM (tr2D7)

Is this your granddaughter? God bless you for the care of her. I can't pat your head or make you an sandwich unless you live in NJ, but it will be all right.
Will pray for healing for her and strength for you and that you are able to get some sleep.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2017 09:39 AM (iVOAv)

221 WH is even open on Christmas

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 15, 2017 10:07 AM (PUmDY)

222 219 Hey Waffle House never closes,and they have enuf GREASE in there to last 6 weeks...

You want grease? I got grease.

Posted by: Haley Barbour - Grease Merchant - MS at October 15, 2017 11:26 AM (mcI77)

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