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Saturday Evening Movie Thread 09-30-2017 [Hosted By: TheJamesMadison]
Music
I’ll say this up front: I’m not a music guy. I don’t really listen to it. I’ve done nine hour drives through a few states without ever turning on the radio. I’ve tried at different points in my life for different reasons to really get into it, but it always lasts about a month before I revert back into not listening to anything. The only exception to that is when I’m working (either at the job or while writing) when I’ll turn on movie soundtracks. I know…surprise! It really has more to do with just draining out background noise and being able to more effectively concentrate on what I’m doing rather than some need for sound. All of that is my introduction to movie music! Which is to say, I’m very far from an expert on how to write it, compose it, or perform it. I can sort of still read sheet music from piano lessons in my childhood, but that’s about it. However, music is a big part of movies. A reader, Kimberly Gilbert, sent me this suggestion, so I thank her for bringing this to the forefront of my mind.
Types
2) Sourced, out of context
3) Produced, in context
4) Produced, out of context What I mean by “in context” or “out of context” is to say that it has a definite source within the film itself. Think of Sam playing the piano in Casablanca or the kids listening to the radio in American Graffiti as opposed to an orchestral score by John Williams. Sourced would be music that existed before its inclusion in the movie (like using popular music or Mozart) while produced would be music specifically written for the movie. Now, there’s a lot of blending between the four and many movies have a mix of them, of course, but this is how I categorize movie music. Most of what people think of in regards to the subject in the produced and out of context variety. This is John Williams’ march for Raiders of the Lost Ark or Max Steiner’s work on King Kong.
Uses
, but in some ways it’s the most obvious form of it many times. There’s a subculture of movie fans who intensely dislike Spielberg, and one of the reasons they cite is how he uses music (most often provided by John Williams, of course). They say that the music is “telling people how to feel”, which I think is true. I just don’t really have a problem with a movie using every tool available to evoke emotions. That’s why I’m watching a movie, right?
Their argument does highlight the fact that music does have other uses than the obvious. Music can be used as an ironic counterpoint in a movie. Think of Kubrick using “We’ll meet again” at the end of Dr. Strangelove set to images of nuclear explosions as the world comes to an end. Does it accurately reflect the horror of nuclear war? No, but it does underline the overall absurdity that Kubrick is trying to dramatize throughout the entire film.
One item that Kimberly wrote to me about was her dislike for how the music was used in The Great Escape. I’ll let her explain:
Another badly scored movie (IMO) is The Great Escape, with the happy fife and drum music as the NAZIs lead Steve McQueen's character off to the cooler for thirty days. Like the punishment was a joke, or something easily borne, or leading up to a farcical escape. Disjointed to say the least. The movie was poorly scored from beginning to end, but that one particular scene with the happy march really irritates me and ruins the whole feel of the story.I disagree, personally. I see that re-emergence of the light and jaunty tune appropriate at the end of the movie. McQueen is back in jail, several people are dead, and only two of the planned hundreds actually managed to get out, but, McQueen’s spirit is still alive. The music acts in tandem with the sound of McQueen bouncing the baseball around the cell again. But that’s just me.
Independence Music produced for movies are designed to work in context, and that doesn’t always mean that a score can stand on its own. John Williams and Danny Elfman write music with themes that have some kind of formal roots in symphonic writing. Hans Zimmer can do that, but many of his scores end up sounding like repetitive noise when heard alone. Below is a track from his score for Dunkirk. It just sounds like noise to me. In the context of the movie, though, it works at building and maintaining tension within the sequence. It’s the sort of music that’ll never win awards or sell many albums, but it works to support the movie, which is ultimately its purpose.
Some Favorites
As I said before, the little music I do listen to does tend to be exclusively movie music. So, here are some of my favorite pieces. Harry-Gregson Williams made one of the best orchestral scores in movie history with his work on Kingdom of Heave, and he hasn’t done anything close to that quality ever since. My favorite piece from that score is “The Battle of Kerak”, below: One of my favorite scores of the past decade is the score to How to Train Your Dragon. I honestly think that it helps elevate the movie as a whole. The Third Man has a wonderful zither score that acts as counterpoint to the action on screen. Taking the movie on its own, it feels like it deserves a score more foreboding and depressing, but the upbeat score ends up working wonderfully well. But that’s just me. What are yours?
Movies of Today Opening in Theaters:
American Made
Flatliners
Battle of the Sexes Next in my Netflix Queue:
Proof of Life Movies I Saw This Week:
The Flight of the Phoenix (Netflix Rating 2/5 | Quality Rating 1.5/4) Poster blurb: “Thin characters, nonsensical plotting mar what could have been a diverting movie. Giovanni Ribisi is pretty good, though.” [Netflix DVD]
Assassin’s Creed (Netflix Rating 1/5 | Quality Rating 0.5/4) “Visually ugly, incomprehensible, filled with no stakes action lead to boredom.” [HBO Now]
Abraham Lincoln (Netflix Rating 2/5 | Quality Rating 1.5/4) “Disjointed to such an extreme (although its last 20 minutes is pretty okay), it operates as Exhibit A for why you don’t tell a man’s entire life in 90 minutes.” [Amazon Prime]
Alive (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) “The key to survival films are getting the details right, and Alive largely succeeds at that.” [Netflix DVD]
Extra Survey! So, as you can see above, I watch Assassin’s Creed and hated it. It lit a bit of a fire in me, that hatred, and now I present you, the fine people of the Horde with an option. Do you wish me for me to eviscerate the movie in a post like I did with The Contender or not? Here’s a Survey Monkey survey you people can vote on. Just remember, if you vote for it, I’ll be knowingly suffering through one of the worst movies of the last decade for your enjoyment.
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Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: t-bird at September 30, 2017 07:40 PM (tIhIY)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 30, 2017 07:40 PM (qJtVm)
Posted by: mnw at September 30, 2017 07:42 PM (PTHEn)
He remembers all music and associates it with the scene it accompanied in a movie. So, he doesn't think twice about saying "the song from Silver Linings when she was taking a dump..." and expecting you to know what he's talking about.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, what is a proud Nitwit Lion at September 30, 2017 07:43 PM (gIRsn)
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 30, 2017 07:43 PM (UW/JF)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo, free Cannibal Bob! at September 30, 2017 07:43 PM (6RtAS)
Posted by: Charles the Simple at September 30, 2017 07:44 PM (w7U7L)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 30, 2017 07:45 PM (2YYWV)
To stay on topic, the music seemed disjointed. And Mark Wahlberg plays a despicable person you just don't sympathize with.
I suspect that movies that are scored well are the ones where you don't remember the music. I did like the music in Goodfellas.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 30, 2017 07:45 PM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: dantesed at September 30, 2017 07:45 PM (88xKn)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo, free Cannibal Bob! at September 30, 2017 07:46 PM (6RtAS)
Posted by: Pete Seria at September 30, 2017 07:46 PM (lJW6d)
Posted by: mnw at September 30, 2017 07:46 PM (PTHEn)
https://youtu.be/iKqGXeX9LhQ
Warning for vomit.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 30, 2017 07:46 PM (rnAwa)
Posted by: mnw at September 30, 2017 07:47 PM (PTHEn)
Posted by: fluffy at September 30, 2017 07:47 PM (U0v/A)
And Kingdom of Heave? Because that is how many reacted upon seeing it?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 07:48 PM (TJu/K)
Posted by: Skip at September 30, 2017 07:48 PM (ghofu)
Posted by: fluffy at September 30, 2017 07:48 PM (U0v/A)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 30, 2017 07:48 PM (2YYWV)
Posted by: Eromero at September 30, 2017 07:48 PM (zLDYs)
Produced, in context?
Heavy Metal would be all 4 of your category's. I think.
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 30, 2017 07:49 PM (UW/JF)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 30, 2017 07:49 PM (IqV8l)
Two Soundtracks that are essential.
I don't understand how anyone can not listen to music.
Of course, I might watch 1 movie every 5 years, or so.
Posted by: garrett at September 30, 2017 07:49 PM (5nGbB)
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 30, 2017 07:50 PM (UW/JF)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 30, 2017 07:50 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 30, 2017 07:50 PM (I11+c)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 07:50 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo, free Cannibal Bob! at September 30, 2017 07:43 PM (6RtAS)
A (hash) would help. If someone would copy/paste it,
I can check.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at September 30, 2017 07:51 PM (sf2BM)
It was Takei's stance that if he had failed to present Sulu as a convincing heterosexual on set, then he had failed as an actor. I really really don't like Takei but he called it on this one.
(Also, unstated I suspect - if Sulu was straight in his timeline and gay in the Abrams alternate, then there's something to the theory that homosexuality is either a choice or a post-birth disease.)
So I got Star Trek Beyond at the library for "free" (with my taxes). I'll see how it goes. I can
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo, free Cannibal Bob! at September 30, 2017 07:51 PM (6RtAS)
Lawrence of Arabia probably #2
Posted by: Skip at September 30, 2017 07:51 PM (ghofu)
Posted by: garrett at September 30, 2017 07:51 PM (5nGbB)
Some damn fine classical composers have done film music, including but not limited to:
Erich Korngold
Miklos Rozsa
William Walton
Sergei Prokofiev
Dmitri Shostakovich
Ralph Vaughan Williams
Bernard Herrmann
Virgil Thomson
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 30, 2017 07:51 PM (cPZRj)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 30, 2017 07:50 PM (Nwg0u)
A Knight's Tale was an very good movie.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 07:51 PM (LuKE7)
I did enjoy the anachronistic settings that Kenneth Branaugh used for his Shakespeare movies.
Posted by: fluffy at September 30, 2017 07:51 PM (U0v/A)
Talk to a real Crusades historian. Please. Hell, talk to Captain Hate here
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo, free Cannibal Bob! at September 30, 2017 07:52 PM (6RtAS)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 30, 2017 07:50 PM (Nwg0u)
Like that King Arthur movie they did a few years back with a rock soundtrack. I mean, come on...
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer at September 30, 2017 07:52 PM (cvoba)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 07:52 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: mnw at September 30, 2017 07:53 PM (PTHEn)
Posted by: goatexchange at September 30, 2017 07:53 PM (YFnq5)
Metal Last of The Mohicans
Posted by: Skip at September 30, 2017 07:53 PM (ghofu)
Prokofiev had to endure Stalin. "Arise ye Russian people!" in Alexander Nevsky is a not so subtle warning about the Nazis and a call to arms.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 07:54 PM (TJu/K)
Posted by: Butthead at September 30, 2017 07:54 PM (I11+c)
Posted by: freaked at September 30, 2017 07:54 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: mnw at September 30, 2017 07:54 PM (PTHEn)
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 30, 2017 07:55 PM (UW/JF)
The Big Chill soundtrack
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 30, 2017 07:55 PM (2YYWV)
Tron Legacy has maybe the best electronic soundtrack since Blade Runner.
https://youtu.be/9S1RIiWhcgA
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 30, 2017 07:55 PM (rnAwa)
You reminded me of something.
I don't get the love for Kelly's Heroes. Least favorite Eastwood movie.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 07:55 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: Amy Schumer at September 30, 2017 07:55 PM (gC2IV)
Posted by: mnw at September 30, 2017 07:55 PM (PTHEn)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2017 07:55 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: never enough caffeine at September 30, 2017 07:56 PM (N3JsI)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 30, 2017 07:56 PM (2YYWV)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 30, 2017 07:56 PM (/qEW2)
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I love the scene near the beginning of Patton featuring the horse-mounted drum and bugle corps, particularly the timpani. If I win the lottery, I'll have horse-mounted timpani introduce my arrival everywhere.
(Both the movies mentioned have excellent scores.)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 30, 2017 07:56 PM (Nwg0u)
Bob Barker is mort?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 30, 2017 07:56 PM (2YYWV)
In the Shining, there's one moment where the camera just slowly closes in on Jack Nicholson while he remains completely still, looking into the camera with a slightly crazed look on his face, the music playing is atonal and just sounds evil. Kubrick was just an absolute genius with music.
Posted by: Jim S. at September 30, 2017 07:56 PM (ynUnH)
Posted by: Bookaday at September 30, 2017 07:57 PM (2qDS0)
Posted by: goatexchange at September 30, 2017 07:57 PM (YFnq5)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2017 07:57 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: mnw at September 30, 2017 07:57 PM (PTHEn)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 30, 2017 07:57 PM (TtQ7v)
Posted by: fluffy at September 30, 2017 07:57 PM (U0v/A)
Do you remember what commercial used the theme to the Magnificant Seven?
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 07:58 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: goatexchange at September 30, 2017 07:59 PM (YFnq5)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2017 07:59 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Pete Seria at September 30, 2017 07:59 PM (lJW6d)
I will maintain zen-like detachment. Even though Villeneuve is directing, I can see the liver-spotted hand of Ridley pulling the strings. He's failed my too many times of late.
Hans Zimmer and some cat named Benjamin Wallfisch are doing the score.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 30, 2017 07:59 PM (qJtVm)
https://youtu.be/sOS9aOIXPEk
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 07:59 PM (TJu/K)
Do you remember what commercial used the theme to the Magnificant Seven?
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 07:58 PM (LuKE7)
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One of the actors apologized to Bernstein after he heard the music saying that if he had known the music was going to be that good he would have ridden his horse better.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 30, 2017 07:59 PM (Jj43a)
Posted by: mnw at September 30, 2017 08:00 PM (PTHEn)
They Died With Their Boots On Golden Pond
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 30, 2017 08:00 PM (2YYWV)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 30, 2017 07:50 PM (Nwg0u)
A Knight's Tale was an very good movie.
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That was sooooo ridiculous, it was kinda fun.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 30, 2017 08:00 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 07:58 PM (LuKE7)
Marlboro?
Posted by: tbodie at September 30, 2017 08:00 PM (YE6fT)
Posted by: kallisto at September 30, 2017 08:00 PM (eO2Z0)
Posted by: mnw at September 30, 2017 08:00 PM (PTHEn)
That's my contradictory contribution to wait at least a little bit until we start with the titles.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 08:00 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 30, 2017 07:57 PM (TtQ7v)
Kevin Costner's first role - he played the dead guy and his scenes were cut.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 30, 2017 08:01 PM (rgxez)
http://tinyurl.com/y9jbm2oo
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 30, 2017 08:01 PM (qJtVm)
Going to see the full director's cut of "Once Upon a Time in America" next week. Almost four hours of Sergio Leone's final outing.
Saw the butchered version when it came out in '84 so I am hoping the director's intended cut will be the masterpiece a lot of people say it is.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2017 08:01 PM (mbhDw)
1. The type or style of music is inappropriate of the time period. Like Tarantino using rap music in Django. Rap hadn't been invented yet, so it doesn't work for that time period. That doesn't mean the music has to actually been written during that time, just that it should sound like it was.
2. The music is just too damn loud compared to the rest of the "in-context" sounds. Especially speech. I hate having to constantly fiddle with the volume, turning it up when there is speaking and then turning it back down when the special effects are blasting me.
3. When the music is just too obviously manipulative. This seems to happen most with down or quiet moments, with the full orchestra coming up with lush strings trying to make me sympathetic to whatever is going on onscreen. Pro-tip: if the story is compelling, you don't need to overplay that crap. If the story isn't compelling, overplaying that crap won't save it.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 30, 2017 08:01 PM (pvjTE)
Posted by: freaked at September 30, 2017 08:02 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 30, 2017 08:02 PM (58eZn)
The great Elmer Bernstein composed the score of "Magnificent Seven" as well as "The Great Escape." The latter in particular has several memorable sub themes that are almost characters in and of themselves.
The other brilliant composers that are my favorites are John Barry and Jerry Goldsmith.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2017 08:03 PM (mbhDw)
Loved Oingo Boingo before Elfman started his slow decent into Burtonism, but some of his frst soundtracks were excellent.
The Third Man is a classic.
Of course, Mancini made pretty much every movie he worked on memorable (even Hatari).
Best soundtrack soundtrack?
Casino Royale, the one with too many people in it.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at September 30, 2017 08:03 PM (RHEDC)
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Ah. The NPR gambit. Cue the poignant music!
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 30, 2017 08:03 PM (58eZn)
Posted by: UDM at September 30, 2017 08:03 PM (cuC7S)
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 30, 2017 08:03 PM (2wRtc)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 30, 2017 08:02 PM (58eZn)
We sang "Torah, Torah, Torah" at temple today.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2017 08:04 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 08:04 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 30, 2017 07:50 PM (Nwg0u)
A Knight's Tale was an very good movie.
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That was sooooo ridiculous, it was kinda fun.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 30, 2017 08:00 PM (Nwg0u)
The dance scene where the medieval-ish music morphs into David Bowie's Golden Years is awesome.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 30, 2017 08:04 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 30, 2017 08:04 PM (UW/JF)
Best soundtrack soundtrack?
Casino Royale, the one with too many people in it.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at September 30, 2017 08:03 PM (RHEDC)
Herb Alpert and the TJB! Also, Dusty Springfield singing "The Look of Love."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2017 08:04 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 30, 2017 08:05 PM (2YYWV)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 30, 2017 08:05 PM (Nwg0u)
2) Sourced, out of context
3) Produced, in context
4) Produced, out of context
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Can't say for sure but 'The Fifth Element" might have has all. What ever it was it was perfect for the visuals.
Posted by: Javems at September 30, 2017 08:05 PM (yOqwj)
Posted by: mnw at September 30, 2017 08:05 PM (PTHEn)
Posted by: Octopus at September 30, 2017 08:05 PM (TjN6o)
Posted by: kallisto at September 30, 2017 08:05 PM (eO2Z0)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 08:05 PM (LuKE7)
Movie Music. two that I like are bits from Babylon AD especially 'leaving the monastery'; and the scene of the car traveling through uninhabited wilderness.
I also love the bit in Last of the Mohicans - Promentory.
And I have the theme from "DragonBorn"; love it. Never played the game, I think it's a game.
Two movies I watched this week - Looper, and Pay Back. Hated them both. Looper made no sense except for about thirty seconds in the last two minutes of the film. Pay Back was stereotypical gangsters, and corrupt cops, and a guy that everyone beats up. Hated both movies. They make me reluctant to risk real money on more movies.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 30, 2017 08:06 PM (m9X4Y)
I think that's the version, then. Looking forward!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2017 08:06 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Jeff Weimer
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William Hurt's line, "I'm evolving..." stuck in my mind. I used it later when I started waffling on ghey marriage. No one called me on it.
Posted by: Barky at September 30, 2017 08:06 PM (58eZn)
It seems to me 99% of scores are like this. Consider a horror movie - a few ominous chords from the bass fiddles to let you know some monster is probably lurking nearby. It's more like a sound effect than music. There's no real melody, no theme.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 30, 2017 08:06 PM (/qEW2)
https://youtu.be/rrZk9sSgRyQ
Will probably catch 2049 on a Friday matinee.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 08:07 PM (TJu/K)
This is my biggest movie pet peeve. The music/FX track is recorded at like three times the volume of the dialogue, and you alternate between being not being able to hear a thing or being pinned to the wall from the eighty bajillion decibels blasting through the speakers.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 30, 2017 08:08 PM (NWiLs)
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Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 30, 2017 08:06 PM (m9X4Y)
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As of this moment, it looks like the Horde wanted me to suffer.
I'm just here to do the Horde's bidding.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 30, 2017 08:08 PM (Jj43a)
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer at September 30, 2017 08:08 PM (cvoba)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 30, 2017 07:56 PM
One of the best. The score throughout the whole movie was fantastic.
Posted by: otho at September 30, 2017 08:08 PM (qGuLD)
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer at September 30, 2017 08:08 PM (cvoba)
See me at 81.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2017 08:08 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: MAGA at September 30, 2017 08:08 PM (LnOh3)
Great score throughout. I feel like watching the movie again now.
Posted by: bananaDream at September 30, 2017 08:09 PM (yfaSg)
Kurosawa was supposed to direct the Japanese half of that but had a falling out with the producers. I'd have loved to have seen that.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, what is a proud Nitwit Lion at September 30, 2017 08:09 PM (gIRsn)
Posted by: Fritz at September 30, 2017 08:09 PM (imd6s)
However from my anime days I have quite a few music CDs. favorites would be Bubblegum Crisis and Utena just off the top of my head.
Mostly I like out of context movie music to not be memorable but there are exceptions like "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly" and the above mentioned Utena. What got me to get the entire series of that one, was one piece of music from one episode.
Posted by: geoffb at September 30, 2017 08:09 PM (zOpu5)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 30, 2017 08:06 PM (/qEW2)
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I think, in general, music with themes are more effective in context than music that's mostly just repetitive noises.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 30, 2017 08:09 PM (Jj43a)
Posted by: Jeff Weimer
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I regard the movie as being a blatant ripoff of 'Return of the Secaucus Seven'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 30, 2017 08:09 PM (58eZn)
Posted by: mark1971 at September 30, 2017 08:09 PM (xPl2J)
Flash Gordon
Tommy
Quadrophenia
McVicar
But I'm biased on those last three cause I'm such a fan of The Who.
Most over used source music in movie soundtracks. Beethoven's "Ode to Joy".
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 30, 2017 08:09 PM (w+Jhj)
Then I heard someone say somewhere that the old westerns always played classical stuff in the background even though you didn't realize it when you were watching the movies.
Now I realize why I like classical music even though I was never around it as a young shaver other than the old westerns.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 30, 2017 08:10 PM (nUkMr)
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Ennio Morricone deserved his Oscar a hundred times over but he won it for The Hateful Eight which sucked donkey dongs.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 30, 2017 08:10 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: goatexchange at September 30, 2017 08:10 PM (YFnq5)
Posted by: Jim S. at September 30, 2017 08:10 PM (ynUnH)
Posted by: MAGA at September 30, 2017 08:10 PM (LnOh3)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 30, 2017 08:10 PM (/qEW2)
Like...
A Funny Thing happened on the way to the Forum...
Zero Mostel...
or for heavens sake.... Clint Eastwood in 'Paint your Wagon'... who sucked, but Lee Marvin, who had one of the best songs in the movie.
Posted by: Don Q. at September 30, 2017 08:10 PM (NgKpN)
Kinda-sorta parallel, no?
Posted by: dad29 at September 30, 2017 08:10 PM (7Kti7)
Didn't pay attention to the score, but I'm sure it was "unsettling," like the rest of the flick. Not a blood and guts slasher at all, this one is about messing with the dark side, and real human tragedy.
Posted by: Octopus at September 30, 2017 08:10 PM (TjN6o)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 30, 2017 08:11 PM (2YYWV)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 30, 2017 08:11 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: UDM at September 30, 2017 08:11 PM (cuC7S)
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer at September 30, 2017 08:08 PM (cvoba)
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By trying to stay away from the more obvious stuff. I knew Morricone would get his due in the comments, the only thing anyone reads anyway.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 30, 2017 08:11 PM (Jj43a)
Bugs Bunny - William Tell Overture
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 08:12 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: KWDreaming at September 30, 2017 08:12 PM (S6xeB)
Posted by: geoffb"
I have the BGC soundtrack on my USB stick for the car. I still regularly play and sing along with it, which drives my wife nuts.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 30, 2017 08:12 PM (w+Jhj)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 30, 2017 08:12 PM (TtQ7v)
John Williams
The Empire Strikes Back
Star Wars
Return of the Jedi
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Superman
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
Jerry Goldsmith
Alien
Logan's Run
Star Trek the Motion Picture
Outland
Capricorn One
Vangelis
Blade Runner
James Horner
Star Trek 2: the Wrath of Khan
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 30, 2017 08:12 PM (v3DL/)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 30, 2017 08:13 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: mnw at September 30, 2017 08:13 PM (PTHEn)
Bugs Bunny - William Tell Overture
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 08:12 PM (LuKE7)
Elmer Fudd...
I will kill him with my Spear and Magic HELLLLLmmmettttt.....
Posted by: Don Q. at September 30, 2017 08:13 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: freaked at September 30, 2017 08:13 PM (UdKB7)
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The problem with real life is there's no danger music to warn you when you're about to screw up.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 30, 2017 08:13 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 30, 2017 08:14 PM (58eZn)
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 30, 2017 08:14 PM (w+Jhj)
Jackie Chan's "Shanghai Noon" movie soundtrack is excellent and under-appreciated. Randy Edelman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyT1Eb-TYpk&list=PLmKFVczvtV7GjpB7NjsPHLGKT75UWzkdV
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 30, 2017 08:14 PM (2YYWV)
One of the groundbreaking aspects of Easy Rider is its music. Hollywood soundtracks until then were usually an instrumental background score or a collection of songs written specifically for a film. The extensive use of pop and rock music for a film's soundtrack was unusual at the time, especially since the film lacks a classical score.
The idea came from Donn Cambern, the editor who used various music from his own record collection to make watching hours of the bike road movie footage more interesting during editing. Cambern and Hopper selected songs for the Easy Rider soundtrack based on stuff they heard on the radio in 1968. The licensing cost $1 million, more than the total budget of the movie. It featured The Band, The Byrds, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, and Steppenwolf.
Yeah, the budget for the movie itself was $360k. Half of that was spent on pot. Or so. The soundtrack album reached #6 on Billboard, and went Gold.
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 30, 2017 08:14 PM (0ogQG)
This is my biggest movie pet peeve. The music/FX track is recorded at like three times the volume of the dialogue, and you alternate between being not being able to hear a thing or being pinned to the wall from the eighty bajillion decibels blasting through the speakers.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 30, 2017 08:08 PM
Yep. Way too loud and often, way too much of it.
Posted by: otho at September 30, 2017 08:14 PM (qGuLD)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 30, 2017 08:14 PM (39g3+)
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Monster? I'm no 'monster'.
Posted by: Jaws at September 30, 2017 08:14 PM (58eZn)
Posted by: Octopus at September 30, 2017 08:16 PM (TjN6o)
Alien
Logan's Run
Star Trek the Motion Picture
Outland
Capricorn One
Goldsmith also scored the Chuck Heston Planet of the Apes which was good. He did the theme for the Man From Uncle and scored some early episodes. His style is very distinctive that you can pick out the ones he did
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 30, 2017 08:16 PM (auHtY)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP5wonZRJKA
Posted by: mark1971 at September 30, 2017 08:16 PM (xPl2J)
For me it was one of those movies that almost could have been good.
Saw Transformers Last Knight on dvd. What a mess of a movie.
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 30, 2017 08:16 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 30, 2017 08:16 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 08:16 PM (LuKE7)
That reminds me. Tommy. I liked that movie. The music was pretty good. I saw it again after BO got elected and noticed some parallels
Posted by: freaked at September 30, 2017 08:16 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 30, 2017 08:08 PM
Yep. Way too loud and often, way too much of it.
Posted by: otho at September 30, 2017 08:14 PM (qGuLD)
Thirded. I don't need the walls shaking to hear it
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 30, 2017 08:16 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: UDM at September 30, 2017 08:16 PM (cuC7S)
Aside from the initial Bond films, one of John Barry's best and most moving scores was for "Somewhere in Time."
I thought that the way the film was shot was kind of flat and boring from a visual standpoint, but his haunting and beautiful love theme, which complemented the Rachmaninoff concerto perfectly, not only saved the picture but makes it eminently more watchable and memorable.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2017 08:16 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Jaws at September 30, 2017 08:14 PM (58eZn)
Heh. Are you the shark or the guy with the big teeth?
Posted by: tbodie at September 30, 2017 08:17 PM (YE6fT)
Posted by: mnw at September 30, 2017 08:17 PM (PTHEn)
Had that problem with Looper and Payback. The special effects explosions were too loud, and the dialog was whispers. Couldn't understand the dialog, and the neighbors knew I was watching movies at 3 am because of the sound effects.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 30, 2017 08:17 PM (m9X4Y)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 08:17 PM (TJu/K)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 30, 2017 08:18 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 08:12 PM (LuKE7)
Cool! I did not know that either. I liked the cartoon shorts in the movies back in the day and usually it was something like that but I wouldn't have known.
Thanks!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 30, 2017 08:18 PM (nUkMr)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 08:18 PM (LuKE7)
Goldsmith also scored the Chuck Heston Planet of the Apes which was good. He did the theme for the Man From Uncle and scored some early episodes. His style is very distinctive that you can pick out the ones he did
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 30, 2017 08:16 PM (auHtY)
Plus Tora Tora Tora and Chinatown. His signature for me is the use of the bottom keys on the piano.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2017 08:18 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 30, 2017 08:19 PM (Lqy/e)
Raging Bull Durham.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2017 08:19 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo, free Cannibal Bob! at September 30, 2017 07:51 PM (6RtAS)
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As far as I'm concerd "Beyond" was the best of the Abramsverse movies. Your mileage may vary.
Gay Sulu isn't that bad, it's only one scene and otherwise it isn't mentioned.
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 30, 2017 08:19 PM (v3DL/)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 30, 2017 08:20 PM (AxFdW)
John Barry who scored a number of Bond movies also did a ton of very good movies. Zulu, Ipcress File, The Lion in Winter to name a very few
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 30, 2017 08:20 PM (auHtY)
Raging Bull Durham.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2017 08:19 PM (mbhDw)
Just learned recently the origin of the term Bull Pen.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 08:20 PM (LuKE7)
Had that problem with Looper and Payback. The special effects explosions were too loud, and the dialog was whispers. Couldn't understand the dialog, and the neighbors knew I was watching movies at 3 am because of the sound effects.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 30, 2017 08:17 PM (m9X4Y)
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Mixes on DVDs are designed for surround sound, so if you have it all coming it if one channel, it's pushing 5.1 out of a single speaker, which causes that effect.
Some DVDs have stereo tracks which sound better on normal systems, otherwise, you're kind of screwed without a better sound setup.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 30, 2017 08:20 PM (Jj43a)
I'm sorry... but thats bullshit...
Hollywood constantly reused songs throughout the heyday of musicals... even to the point of creating entire movie scripts to fit a song.
Like how a song in Holiday Inn morphed into White Christmas....
because White Christmas was an immensely popular song in album sales...
Posted by: Don Q. at September 30, 2017 08:20 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 30, 2017 08:13 PM
And he used it sparingly. I'm not a fan of scores (in particular) that just go on and on and on. Let the scenes do the talking. More often than not, it's better without a score... if it's a good movie. All too often the score is a crutch for less than stellar scenes/acting/writing/editing etc.
Posted by: otho at September 30, 2017 08:20 PM (qGuLD)
Sure, US politics were a part of the drug war in Colombia, but what isn't.
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 30, 2017 08:20 PM (0ogQG)
Here's a bit of Conan.
https://youtu.be/GaBk7sBaaus
Tyler Bates had to settle out of court with Elliot Goldenthal because part of the music in 300 sounds just like the opening to Julie Taymor's Titus Andronicus. Both movies are owned by WB. Directors have been known to ask the composer to make a piece sound more like the temp track, over and over again until the two pieces converge.
https://youtu.be/8tAT_A71WOs
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 30, 2017 08:21 PM (rnAwa)
"Mysterious Night"
https://youtu.be/P22FXuFeNGc
Do you have all 8 OVA CDs plus the two Best CDs?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 08:21 PM (TJu/K)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 30, 2017 08:21 PM (2YYWV)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2017 08:18 PM (mbhDw)
I think he also did In Harm's Way with John Wayne and Kirk Douglas. And I agree about the bottom keys on the piano. Very distinctive.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 30, 2017 08:22 PM (auHtY)
Gay Sulu isn't that bad, it's only one scene and otherwise it isn't mentioned.
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 30, 2017 08:19 PM (v3DL/)
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It's the one of the three that feels most like Star Trek. It's the lightest and most fun, too.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 30, 2017 08:22 PM (Jj43a)
Posted by: Octopus at September 30, 2017 08:22 PM (TjN6o)
I was going to do it the other night but La La Land was playing for free on HBO. Good movie but a very sad ending in my opinion.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 08:22 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 30, 2017 08:23 PM (AxFdW)
Posted by: mnw at September 30, 2017 08:23 PM (PTHEn)
I was going to do it the other night but La La Land was playing for free on HBO. Good movie but a very sad ending in my opinion.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 08:22 PM (LuKE7)
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I paid for the theater ticket and loved it. But that's just me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 30, 2017 08:23 PM (Jj43a)
Check out Basil Poledouris and tell me this guy isn't cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxv7kX27HrI
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 30, 2017 08:23 PM (2YYWV)
Posted by: Soundtrack Earworm at September 30, 2017 08:23 PM (bCcW5)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 08:16 PM (LuKE7)
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I'm probably wrong here, but didn't he later admit to throwing the game?
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 30, 2017 08:24 PM (v3DL/)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 30, 2017 08:24 PM (TtQ7v)
Posted by: freaked at September 30, 2017 08:24 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: lurking grandma at September 30, 2017 08:24 PM (sujqA)
I blame my cheap, no name 5.1 channel surround sound amp. I think it is lacking some codecs.
It used to work, years ago. One sound effect in particular used to startle you until you watched it enough times to see it coming. And in the TV series Firefly the "Objects in Space' episode has River Tam's laugh goes from one side of the room to the other, and then down the hall.
Doesn't do that any more.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 30, 2017 08:25 PM (m9X4Y)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 30, 2017 08:25 PM (AxFdW)
Posted by: freaked at September 30, 2017 08:25 PM (UdKB7)
Doesn't do that any more.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 30, 2017 08:25 PM (m9X4Y)
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My favorite effect on a home system is from Master and Commander when it honest to God sounds like people are running over your head on a wooden deck.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 30, 2017 08:26 PM (Jj43a)
Posted by: lurking grandma at September 30, 2017 08:24 PM (sujqA)
It's an incredibly good cast except for Katherine Hepburn. I never could stand her or her creaky voice
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 30, 2017 08:26 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: Octopus at September 30, 2017 08:27 PM (TjN6o)
were afraid that people will fall asleep if there isn't some trumpet
blaring at every moment.
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Kind of like in-between innings of baseball games.
Posted by: ShainS at September 30, 2017 08:27 PM (BiLU+)
No he never admitted it and his son said he didn't but it's not out of the question based on his gambling addiction. Of course his gambling debts would have had to be more than a Hundred grand because that's what he lost if he threw the match.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 08:27 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 30, 2017 08:28 PM (NWiLs)
Well looky there. We agree.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 08:28 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 30, 2017 08:28 PM (v3DL/)
In the days of silent films, live orchestras performed the music. Eugene Ormandy, longtime conductor of the Philadelphia Orchestra, got his start that way having been concertmaster for the Roxy. Now a click track is used to synchronize music and action but not in the 20's. Ormandy's sense of timing was so acute that he was said to have not only perfect pitch but perfect time. For a recording of a piece for a 78 side of five minutes, he did it perfectly in 4:59.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 30, 2017 08:29 PM (cPZRj)
That's all right, luv, I'll have your Katherine Hepburn. Oy luv her!
Posted by: The Guy from the Spam Skit at September 30, 2017 08:29 PM (gIRsn)
Posted by: mnw at September 30, 2017 08:29 PM (PTHEn)
Here is a very little known Morricone track. For the last season of The Virginian they added the title "Men From Shiloh" and created a very Leone type opening credit with a theme composed by Morricone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP5wonZRJKA
That is so cool. Now I want to watch those episodes of The Virginian.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 30, 2017 08:29 PM (2YYWV)
Well looky there. We agree.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 08:28 PM (LuKE7)
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Shall we prepare for the Apocalypse?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 30, 2017 08:30 PM (Jj43a)
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Their early movies featured good, but strange, music. I'm thinking Raising Arizona and Miller's Crossing. They've been more convential lately.
Speaking of effective sort of off kilter music somewhat similar to the upbeat Great Escape theme, Leo Tommygunning the hired killers sent to kill him in Miller's Crossing to the tune of Oh Danny Boy was very good.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 30, 2017 08:31 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 30, 2017 08:31 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: freaked at September 30, 2017 08:32 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 30, 2017 08:30 PM (Jj43a)
Now?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 30, 2017 08:32 PM (auHtY)
youtu.be/uW-DahcNQv8
Posted by: Soundtrack Earworm at September 30, 2017 08:23 PM (bCcW5)
Oooooo...good one. My Uncle, who served from Schofield Barracks in 1936 to Yokohama into the 1950s (career Army) and my brothers were watching that and when the Brits came in whistling (Colonel Bogey's March?) we asked him if that's what he did.
He looked at us like we had three heads and said "Hell no, you idiots!".
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 30, 2017 08:32 PM (nUkMr)
remember the movie THE DISH with Sam Whathisname?
Probably not, because it wasn't a big movie. But it was very, very good.
The soundtrack is excellent, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaSK5ST64_E&list=PLCPiz5qAViiCtcGBPBp8zhi2s_F-VkiP8
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 30, 2017 08:32 PM (2YYWV)
"Mysterious Night"
https://youtu.be/P22FXuFeNGc
Do you have all 8 OVA CDs plus the two Best CDs?
Posted by: Anna Puma"
Thanks! I always liked that track.
I didn't manage to get all of the individual OVA CD's. Just the best of.
Also have Soundtracks for Urusei Yatsura, Ranma, Ah, Megamisama!, Slayers, and Cat Girl Nuku Nuku, among others.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at September 30, 2017 08:32 PM (w+Jhj)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 30, 2017 08:14 PM (39g3+)
A lot of money for composers in the video game industry. There are some great scores in a lot of games.
Posted by: Thursby at September 30, 2017 08:33 PM (WVn9a)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 30, 2017 08:33 PM (auHtY)
The very best use of music is IMHO, sourced in context... where it appears in place in a scene. Ideally, only that. I like musical scores, but they're all too often rubbish that adds nothing and are even a distraction, taking you out of the moment. A movie score needs to be more than just adequate, it has to be fantastic, so you notice it and feel something beyond just "sad" or "exciting". Not a fan of scores that prompt just for the sake of it. The emotion should come from the film, you shouldn't need to be prodded if they're doing it right. Absolutely fantastic scores get a pass... even if they are obtrusive, because they're too damn good... but, they should highlight the moment.
Posted by: otho at September 30, 2017 08:33 PM (qGuLD)
Movies with simple story lines become infinitely more interesting with a perfect score. The indie move Once fits this category. Amazing songs, sung simply, usually with only a guitar or piano are featured throughout. Lovely.
Sound effects, aside from music, mostly break a movie for me. Dunkirk was too crowded, phonically. I don't need to feel the base of the ominous beat playing so loudly that my bones rattle to know that the bad guys are coming and they are bringing hell with them.
Posted by: squeakywheel at September 30, 2017 08:33 PM (GUhcs)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 30, 2017 08:33 PM (AxFdW)
Posted by: logprof at September 30, 2017 08:34 PM (GsAUU)
I've been watching a lot of Asian movies and serial dramas lately and they seem to different ideas about context. A Japanese serial drama (hoppy-choppy, slicey-dicey) I'm currently following runs its end credits over a Gypsy Kings kind of number.
Posted by: 11B40 at September 30, 2017 08:34 PM (evgyj)
https://youtu.be/UgsS3nhRRzQ
"I mean to liberate my brothers," Largo.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 08:35 PM (TJu/K)
I thought I was the only one that watched Once.
Did you see August Rush?
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 08:35 PM (LuKE7)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjR7_U2u3sM
Posted by: mark1971 at September 30, 2017 08:35 PM (xPl2J)
Posted by: no good deed at September 30, 2017 08:35 PM (eIQHF)
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla aka procrastinator extraordinaire at September 30, 2017 08:36 PM (xE5n0)
I don't know if I'd call the scores successful but Officer and a Gentleman and Urban Cowboy have songs that really make the movie.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 30, 2017 08:36 PM (Lqy/e)
If you are speaking of modern scores then yea maybe. When do you think his influence first appeared?
Posted by: freaked at September 30, 2017 08:36 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: squeakywheel at September 30, 2017 08:36 PM (GUhcs)
Posted by: CV-43jag at September 30, 2017 08:36 PM (fjnRw)
Posted by: mnw at September 30, 2017 08:37 PM (PTHEn)
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 30, 2017 08:37 PM (2wRtc)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at September 30, 2017 08:37 PM (j9SGE)
Speaking of Apocalypse Now, the scene with the helicopter attack where they play Wagner because it's scares the shit out of the slopes is a classic
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 30, 2017 08:37 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 30, 2017 08:37 PM (AxFdW)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 30, 2017 08:38 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: gNewt at September 30, 2017 08:38 PM (eNqiW)
Speaking of Apocalypse Now, the scene with the helicopter attack where they play Wagner because it's scares the shit out of the slopes is a classic
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 30, 2017 08:37 PM (auHtY)
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Great scene in Jarhead plays off of that. They start playing music from Apocalypse Now and the main character says, "Can't we get our own music?"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 30, 2017 08:38 PM (Jj43a)
Posted by: goatexchange at September 30, 2017 08:39 PM (YFnq5)
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I love the L.A. Noir music.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 30, 2017 08:38 PM (Nwg0u)
Battlefield 1 has a great score
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at September 30, 2017 08:39 PM (j9SGE)
Posted by: Octopus at September 30, 2017 08:39 PM (TjN6o)
Posted by: AltonJackson at September 30, 2017 08:40 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at September 30, 2017 08:40 PM (j9SGE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjR7_U2u3sM
Posted by: mark1971 at September 30, 2017 08:35 PM (xPl2J)
Thanks for posting that!
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 30, 2017 08:40 PM (gwPgz)
kubrick also used classical music well in "barry lyndon".
alan sylvestri is underrated, imho. his score for "predator is brilliant and really carries much of a movie not dependent on dialogue. & everyone knows his "back to the future", very enjoyable.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 30, 2017 08:40 PM (AxFdW)
Question - do you have any musicals that you really enjoyed? Like any Rogers/Astaire movies? They're not among my favorites, but I liked them a lot, and I too am someone who has never really listened to music all that often.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 30, 2017 08:41 PM (/qEW2)
Sadly, no. What's the premise?
Posted by: squeakywheel at September 30, 2017 08:36 PM (GUhcs)
Music savant kid in foster care who never played an instrument runs away to find his parents. Ends up in NYC where Robin Williams shady character takes him under his wing with his other street music urchins.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 08:41 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: mnw at September 30, 2017 08:41 PM (PTHEn)
Listened to it for months afterward during work ...
Posted by: ShainS at September 30, 2017 08:41 PM (BiLU+)
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I love the L.A. Noir music.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 30, 2017 08:38 PM (Nwg0u)
Battlefield 1 has a great score
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at September 30, 2017 08:39 PM (j9SGE)
Elder Scrolls 3 is my favorite.
Posted by: Thursby at September 30, 2017 08:41 PM (WVn9a)
Posted by: goatexchange at September 30, 2017 08:39 PM (YFnq5)
Who ended up going to prison for scalping Super Bowl tickets he got through his wife.
Posted by: mark1971 at September 30, 2017 08:41 PM (xPl2J)
alan sylvestri is underrated, imho. his score for "predator is brilliant and really carries much of a movie not dependent on dialogue. & everyone knows his "back to the future", very enjoyable.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 30, 2017 08:40 PM (AxFdW)
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His score for Van Helsing is really fun, too.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 30, 2017 08:41 PM (Jj43a)
I liked his Coastal Command score.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 30, 2017 08:42 PM (hyuyC)
Posted by: blaster at September 30, 2017 08:42 PM (jHrzU)
Agree on both counts, Coen bros are geniuses with music.
A lot of money for composers in the video game industry.
Right, I include that in the umbrella of soundtracks
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 30, 2017 08:42 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Octopus at September 30, 2017 08:27 PM
Yes. It's well worth a revisit. Great use of music. Believe it or not, there isn't as much social commentary/politics in it as you'd think. It comes up from time to time, but it doesn't beat you over the head with it. That's mostly coz not much really happens in the film. They to places, talk a bit, do some drugs, then go somewhere else and talk some more. It's a weird film of moments on the road. It's an important film though, and really quite good.
Posted by: otho at September 30, 2017 08:42 PM (qGuLD)
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I quite like the scores to Hero and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, both by Tan Dun.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 30, 2017 08:42 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 30, 2017 08:43 PM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 30, 2017 08:43 PM (oVJmc)
This. Hated "The Piano" (not "The Pianist"), with Holly Hunter and Harvey Keitel. Set in 1850s New Zealand, and the score is New Age gobbledygook.
Husband plays in a big orchestra, has played with John Williams many times, and says he's a peach. Loved his score for "Angela's Ashes". I'm a pianist (classical nerd), and this was the first sheet music I bought since "70 Top Hits of the '70s" when I was in high school!
Posted by: stinkylegs at September 30, 2017 08:43 PM (YW4J1)
Question - do you have any musicals that you really enjoyed? Like any Rogers/Astaire movies? They're not among my favorites, but I liked them a lot, and I too am someone who has never really listened to music all that often.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 30, 2017 08:41 PM (/qEW2)
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I treat musicals the same way I treat any other type of movie. I have no problem with them.
That being said, it's not a genre I search or, so I've seen the big stuff but never gone much further. My favorite would probably be Singin in the Rain, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 30, 2017 08:44 PM (Jj43a)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 30, 2017 08:44 PM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: kallisto at September 30, 2017 08:44 PM (eO2Z0)
https://youtu.be/aZ9Os8cP_gg
The atmosphere the original evoked still seems missing in this one. And voice only pay phones? That EMP blast from 2022 is still keeping them low tech?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 08:45 PM (TJu/K)
Posted by: gNewt at September 30, 2017 08:45 PM (eNqiW)
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla aka procrastinator extraordinaire at September 30, 2017 08:36 PM (xE5n0)
My life soundtrack would have a lot of My Chemical Romance and Nine Inch Nails.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 30, 2017 08:45 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: kallisto at September 30, 2017 08:44 PM (eO2Z0)
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Amadeus is one of my all time favorite movies, so that sounds absolutely amazing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 30, 2017 08:46 PM (Jj43a)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 30, 2017 08:43 PM (Lqy/e)
--IMO "On Wisconsin" is one of the best fight songs in college ball. (I say that having been to FSU, who has plenty of damn good music in its own right.)
Posted by: logprof at September 30, 2017 08:46 PM (GsAUU)
Really one word, all Caps = TOPGUN. But had some great music.
Nothing like seeing a C-5A landing at NAS Norfolk while [i[Mighty Wings is playing at full blast as you go under the runway.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 30, 2017 08:46 PM (hyuyC)
Posted by: ShainS at September 30, 2017 08:46 PM (BiLU+)
Something that stays with me is the use of unusual tones as part of the music. There's the hardinger fiddle in the theme music for Rohan or the massed horns leading into the charge of the Rohirrim at Minas Tirith. The use of some Celtic instruments falls into this category.
Posted by: JTB at September 30, 2017 08:46 PM (V+03K)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 08:46 PM (LuKE7)
I'll check it out, thank you.
Speaking of Robin Williams, I miss him. Saw the Birdcage the other day, my favorite RW movie.
Posted by: squeakywheel at September 30, 2017 08:46 PM (GUhcs)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 30, 2017 08:46 PM (AxFdW)
My life soundtrack would have a lot of My Chemical Romance and Nine Inch Nails.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 30, 2017 08:45 PM (NWiLs)
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I forgot to include it, but I wanted to mention that I got the soundtrack to Hanna by My Chemical Romance and was shocked at how unlistenable it was out of context.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 30, 2017 08:47 PM (Jj43a)
The music for the movie The Vikings was pretty damn good.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 08:47 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 30, 2017 08:47 PM (2wRtc)
Posted by: gNewt at September 30, 2017 08:47 PM (eNqiW)
Posted by: mark1971 at September 30, 2017 08:48 PM (xPl2J)
"The Sandpiper", score by Johnny Mandel.
Posted by: gNewt at September 30, 2017 08:38 PM (eNqiW)
+1
Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at September 30, 2017 08:48 PM (xuv8D)
Won't you take a ride, ride, ride, ride
On Heavy Metal...
Huh.
It's sort of a sexbot song, really.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 30, 2017 08:48 PM (2wRtc)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 30, 2017 08:48 PM (AxFdW)
Posted by: mnw at September 30, 2017 08:48 PM (PTHEn)
Posted by: kallisto at September 30, 2017 08:48 PM (eO2Z0)
The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3 by David Shire
https://tinyurl.com/nvthcqv
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 30, 2017 08:49 PM (3DZIZ)
Posted by: squeakywheel at September 30, 2017 08:50 PM (GUhcs)
Posted by: Jack Sock
Watched that with kidlet a few years ago. It was a good flick. IIRC, so was the music.
Posted by: Infidel at September 30, 2017 08:50 PM (w25zc)
Posted by: Octopus at September 30, 2017 08:27 PM
Yes. It's well worth a revisit. Great use of music. Believe it or not, there isn't as much social commentary/politics in it as you'd think. It comes up from time to time, but it doesn't beat you over the head with it. That's mostly coz not much really happens in the film. They to places, talk a bit, do some drugs, then go somewhere else and talk some more. It's a weird film of moments on the road. It's an important film though, and really quite good.
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Thanks, Otho. I think I'll check it out again. I loved it as a teen.
Posted by: Octopus at September 30, 2017 08:50 PM (TjN6o)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 30, 2017 08:50 PM (3DZIZ)
Posted by: ShainS at September 30, 2017 08:46 PM (BiLU+)
--I don't think the intro music for Vikings is original. It is still very apropos, though.
Posted by: logprof at September 30, 2017 08:50 PM (GsAUU)
Posted by: mnw at September 30, 2017 08:51 PM (PTHEn)
Good theme song.
Posted by: squeakywheel at September 30, 2017 08:50 PM (GUhcs)
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He didn't write that song. The main character in Walkabout from the 70s sings it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 30, 2017 08:51 PM (Jj43a)
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there's a Far Side cartoon on this
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 30, 2017 08:52 PM (hMwEB)
It's got a great heavy metal soundtrack, and it's a better movie than it has any right to be. If you can't handle your metal, please avoid.
Posted by: Octopus at September 30, 2017 08:52 PM (TjN6o)
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 30, 2017 08:52 PM (2wRtc)
The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3 by David Shire
https://tinyurl.com/nvthcqv
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 30, 2017 08:49 PM (3DZIZ)
YES.
Just saw the movie on the big screen a couple weeks back and it absolutely makes a great movie outstanding.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2017 08:53 PM (mbhDw)
I gave up on that show mid season 4 though
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 30, 2017 08:53 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: mnw at September 30, 2017 08:51 PM (PTHEn)
Reminds me of Mel Brooks (who wrote a lot of the music in his movies) said "I'm Tired" in Blazing Saddles was the nastiest thing he ever wrote.
Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at September 30, 2017 08:53 PM (T71PA)
Posted by: Les Kinetic at September 30, 2017 08:54 PM (q5BCk)
Posted by: kallisto at September 30, 2017 08:54 PM (eO2Z0)
Has anyone mentioned the great musicals? Or do they not count since soundtrack is more instrumental in nature?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2017 08:54 PM (mbhDw)
Still a good theme song, TJM.
Posted by: squeakywheel at September 30, 2017 08:55 PM (GUhcs)
Lawrence of Arabia
Dr. Zhivago
The Man Who Would Be King
A Passage to India
Fatal Attraction
Dead Poet's Society
and many dozens of others
Posted by: stinkylegs at September 30, 2017 08:55 PM (YW4J1)
I've seen the Jaws theme used in various ways to heighten the fear of what's coming. It has more impact than other scores that could be used, b/c people already associate with the movie Jaws & the bloody outcomes.
Just kinda thinking how music is leveraged...and in generalities.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla aka procrastinator extraordinaire at September 30, 2017 08:55 PM (xE5n0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZRzeUrVy1o
Great one.
Posted by: mark1971 at September 30, 2017 08:55 PM (xPl2J)
Posted by: gNewt at September 30, 2017 08:55 PM (eNqiW)
Then it struck me--I'm usually roaring drunk when the post appears! Just like now, for example. Another mystery solved.
"So it seems you've discovered your unpleasant nature."
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 30, 2017 08:56 PM (l9m7l)
Asheville-san! Nuku Nuku Natsume ichiban!!!!
The most 'off' and/or 'odd' song from the original Nuku Nuku OVAs.
https://youtu.be/MdTKUlu9d8g
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 08:56 PM (TJu/K)
Posted by: JTB at September 30, 2017 08:56 PM (V+03K)
Posted by: weirdflunky at September 30, 2017 08:57 PM (amHRJ)
Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at September 30, 2017 08:57 PM (IG7jB)
He influenced almost every composer so the is some truth to it. I was just wondering if there is some movie where it first became apparent.
Posted by: freaked at September 30, 2017 08:57 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at September 30, 2017 08:57 PM (xuv8D)
I gave up on that show mid season 4 though
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 30, 2017 08:53 PM (hMwEB)
--That song also was heard in Breaking Bad.
Best non-original theme songs, IMO:
"Teardrop" (Massive Attack) for House M.D.
https://youtu.be/16cWT3-1u90
"Paint It Black" (Rolling Stones) for Tour of Duty
https://youtu.be/O4irXQhgMqg
"Way Down In the Hole" (Tom Waits, with various covers) for The Wire
https://youtu.be/E8O7EDwhJxU
Posted by: logprof at September 30, 2017 08:58 PM (GsAUU)
Anthony Levandowski, who is at the center of a legal battle between Uber and Google's Waymo, has established a nonprofit religious corporation called Way of the Future, according to state filings first uncovered by Wired's Backchannel. Way of the Future's startling mission: "To develop and promote the realization of a Godhead based on artificial intelligence and through understanding and worship of the Godhead contribute to the betterment of society."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 30, 2017 08:58 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: gNewt at September 30, 2017 08:58 PM (eNqiW)
The burst of Prokofiev when Khan chases them into the nebula was inspired.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 30, 2017 08:58 PM (3DZIZ)
Posted by: mnw at September 30, 2017 08:59 PM (PTHEn)
Adventures of Robin Hood
Ghost and Mrs Muir
To Kill a Mockingbird
Posted by: Caliban at September 30, 2017 08:59 PM (QE8X6)
Posted by: kallisto at September 30, 2017 08:59 PM (eO2Z0)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
See @264, we briefly touched on it.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 30, 2017 08:59 PM (/qEW2)
Has anyone mentioned the great musicals? Or do they not count since soundtrack is more instrumental in nature?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2017 08:54 PM (mbhDw)
too many things cross the lines...
Like... The Graduate, Mrs. Robinson...
Posted by: Don Q. at September 30, 2017 09:00 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at September 30, 2017 08:57 PM (IG7jB)
I liked both versions of the film, though I really thought the remake was much better.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 30, 2017 09:01 PM (8gDQu)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 09:01 PM (LuKE7)
A period piece with modern music. It was...different. They also used song words as dialogue. The Elephant Song especially was a mash up.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla aka procrastinator extraordinaire at September 30, 2017 09:02 PM (xE5n0)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2017 08:54 PM (mbhDw)
There are only something like 3 or 4 great musicals, even though hundreds and hundreds have been made.
If someone is looking for the worst movie on Earth then the chances are they are looking for a musical.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 30, 2017 09:02 PM (8gDQu)
It came out when I was in highschool (about 12ish years ago I guess) and I never saw it then, but everyone else in my HS did. I heard some of the stories and knew most of the famous quotes. Then I saw it not all that long ago on IFC which was uncut. First, I was surprised it opened with a Devo song! I always thought of it as a movie of the 70s, it really was a movie of the 80s.
Then I saw how bleak and empty it was.
And that was so famous and highly acclaimed - and supposedly written from observation of a HS class in California.
Posted by: blaster at September 30, 2017 09:02 PM (jHrzU)
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 30, 2017 09:02 PM (QLvwG)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at September 30, 2017 09:03 PM (j9SGE)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 30, 2017 09:03 PM (XF6gl)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 09:01 PM (LuKE7)
They hit the screen for the first time in 1965?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 30, 2017 09:03 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 30, 2017 09:02 PM (8gDQu)
Only if you count 'Attack of the Killer Tomatoes' as a Musical...
Posted by: Don Q. at September 30, 2017 09:03 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 30, 2017 09:03 PM (8gDQu)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 30, 2017 09:04 PM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: bergerbilder at September 30, 2017 09:04 PM (lIZQs)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 09:04 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: JTB at September 30, 2017 09:05 PM (V+03K)
Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at September 30, 2017 09:05 PM (T71PA)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 30, 2017 09:06 PM (pvjTE)
Just saw Monty Hall has learned what's behind the Last Door. I don't know reallywhy, but reading about his death made me feel a bit sad. He was an icon of Lets Make A Deal, and I never cared too much for that at all, but yet, it's like another part of my childhood has gone.
Or some psychology like that.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 30, 2017 09:06 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 30, 2017 09:03 PM (8gDQu)
--There's also Patton.
I'd flip a coin.
Posted by: logprof at September 30, 2017 09:06 PM (GsAUU)
Posted by: kallisto at September 30, 2017 09:06 PM (eO2Z0)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 30, 2017 09:07 PM (Lqy/e)
Really good, with a lot of Brian Eno.
And one Harry Nillson.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at September 30, 2017 09:07 PM (q5BCk)
I'd flip a coin.
Posted by: logprof at September 30, 2017 09:06 PM (GsAUU)
I can't even remember a score from Patton. It certainly ranks in the top ten of all time movies, for me. I'll have to pay attention to the score, next time.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 30, 2017 09:08 PM (8gDQu)
Great one.
Posted by: mark1971 at September 30, 2017 08:55 PM
Amazingly effective use of sourced music, in context, in place. The perfect use of it. It's a one of the best scenes captured on film, IMHO. But then, I rate Boogie Nights very, very highly. It's a genuine masterpiece. It's derivative and Anderson rips off other films with it (scenes, techniques etc)... but damn... it's close to perfect.
Posted by: otho at September 30, 2017 09:08 PM (qGuLD)
Posted by: kallisto at September 30, 2017 09:08 PM (eO2Z0)
Thuderstruck with the Big Mo.
Posted by: blaster at September 30, 2017 08:42 PM (jHrzU)
Exactly!
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 30, 2017 09:08 PM (QLvwG)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 30, 2017 09:07 PM (Lqy/e)
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Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, Oklahoma, and West Side Story.
Posted by: gNewt at September 30, 2017 09:08 PM (eNqiW)
Posted by: colfax mingo at September 30, 2017 09:08 PM (5irMi)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 30, 2017 09:08 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 30, 2017 09:09 PM (3DZIZ)
John Addison: A Bridge Too Far
Ron Goodwin: 633 Squadron, Luftwaffe March from Battle of Britain
Max Steiner: Gone With the Wind
William Walton: Henry V
Dmitri Tiomkin: Guns of Navarrone
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 30, 2017 09:09 PM (ixAzn)
Posted by: Max Power at September 30, 2017 09:09 PM (QCc6B)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 30, 2017 09:09 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 09:10 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 30, 2017 09:10 PM (3DZIZ)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 09:10 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 09:01 PM
Angela Cartwright.
Posted by: otho at September 30, 2017 09:11 PM (qGuLD)
Posted by: gNewt at September 30, 2017 09:11 PM (eNqiW)
And one Harry Nillson.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at September 30, 2017 09:07 PM (q5BCk)
Movies with great Eno music (which is the best kind of music):
Velvet Goldmine
The Lovely Bones
and, of course,
For All Mankind (scored by Eno, himself, for NASA - released as the album, Apollo)
Anytime I hear an Eno track in a movie it's a real treat and automatically kicks the movie two steps up.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 30, 2017 09:11 PM (8gDQu)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 09:11 PM (TJu/K)
Posted by: scrood at September 30, 2017 09:11 PM (cQdY5)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 30, 2017 09:11 PM (3DZIZ)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 30, 2017 09:11 PM (/qEW2)
It was perfect as soon as they cast Heather Graham.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 09:12 PM (LuKE7)
Chariots of Fire. My mother and her friends really got into that, and the music. Also "Evita". She saw that some time around there when she went to visit her big sister out in Alameda, CA. They saw it at some theater in SF.
Anyway, she played "Evita" and "Chariots of Fire" music so much I got sick of it, nearly.
That was all somewhere around 1980, give or take, and was around 13 - 15 or so.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 30, 2017 09:12 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 30, 2017 09:12 PM (hyuyC)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 09:13 PM (TJu/K)
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 30, 2017 09:13 PM (2wRtc)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 09:01 PM (LuKE7)
Johnny Williams. The composer, not "Roast Beef."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2017 09:13 PM (mbhDw)
The Rakes of Mallow
Leroy Anderson version;
https://tinyurl.com/y8as6lhl
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 30, 2017 09:14 PM (3DZIZ)
Now that they're being restored and issued on dvd, musicians are composing scores to go with them. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. It's an improvement over the dark ages when silent movies just had some random classical recording slapped onto them, with no attempt to match the music to the action. But the funny thing is, if you watch a silent movie with a random soundtrack, your brain will start making linkages to the music, so it feels as if what you're hearing is really connected to what you're seeing. You can't help it; it's just a natural impulse to somehow join everything together so it's coherent.
Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at September 30, 2017 09:14 PM (jO4+W)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 09:15 PM (TJu/K)
Posted by: Max Power at September 30, 2017 09:09 PM (QCc6B)
++++
TheJamesMadison writes the weekly music thread. But, he isn't a cob, so he can't post it. OregonMuse takes care of that. So, you see TheJamesMadison in the title, but OregonMuse in the Posted by line.
Long of saying that the seemingly sad figure driving for 9 hours in silence is TheJamesMadison. I hope there's something more lively going on inside his head.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 30, 2017 09:15 PM (FUu/Z)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 30, 2017 09:15 PM (3DZIZ)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dn8oGbNyUfM
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 30, 2017 09:16 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at September 30, 2017 09:05 PM (T71PA)
"Short People"......hilarious.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 30, 2017 09:16 PM (nUkMr)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 30, 2017 09:15 PM (FUu/Z)
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Last time I did it a few weeks ago, I outlined 4 movie posts, along with several other things.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 30, 2017 09:17 PM (Jj43a)
I can recite (and sing, but you wouldn't want to hear it -- no sirree) the theme from Gilligan's Island from rote.
Don't know if I should be proud of that or not.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 30, 2017 09:17 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 09:17 PM (TJu/K)
Posted by: scrood at September 30, 2017 09:17 PM (cQdY5)
Posted by: no good deed at September 30, 2017 09:18 PM (eIQHF)
Beverly Hillbillies - Pearl back when Jed & clan went back to the hills. Pearl played piano during the silent movies at the movie house.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 30, 2017 09:18 PM (XF6gl)
Posted by: runner at September 30, 2017 09:18 PM (9qbOD)
Yes, the French Horns symbolizing hunting horns in the Wrath of Khan are great.
A case of real life sound effects is Frost and his battalion at Arnhem, forming up to the sound of horns.
And the theme to Patton playing as we pulled away at flank speed from an UNREP. That always brings me back.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 30, 2017 09:19 PM (hyuyC)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dn8oGbNyUfM
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 30, 2017 09:16 PM (Nwg0u)
++++
Per the first youtube comment "john williams plays john williams".
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 30, 2017 09:20 PM (FUu/Z)
<<<<
Used to play it live. I had a long minute and a half wind up spiel about the Great Song of the Sea, sung by generations of sailors around the world. And then I would kick into Gilligan.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 30, 2017 09:20 PM (3DZIZ)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 09:20 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 30, 2017 09:21 PM (AxFdW)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 30, 2017 09:21 PM (hyuyC)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2017 09:22 PM (mbhDw)
Both versions?
Yes there were two.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 09:22 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 30, 2017 09:22 PM (3DZIZ)
Worst use of a score that I can think of atm, is Battle Of Britain. Truly horrendous for being over the top, unneeded. It's the same few bits repeated over and over, again and again and again. "Heroic theme", "Teutonic march"... argh... please make it stop. Let the action speak for itself.
Posted by: otho at September 30, 2017 09:22 PM (qGuLD)
Posted by: 'Stache of Gene Shalit at September 30, 2017 09:22 PM (bc2Lc)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 30, 2017 09:21 PM (hyuy
Ferde Grofe and the great Aaron Copland.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2017 09:23 PM (mbhDw)
Fearless
A lot of the crash scenes use a score that is dissonant to the action, making that much more of an impression.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 30, 2017 09:23 PM (8gDQu)
I seen a peanut stand, heard a rubber band
I seen a needle that winked its eye
But I be done seen 'bout ev'rything
When I see a elephant fly
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 30, 2017 09:24 PM (2wRtc)
Least favorite - anything by Lalo Schifrin.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at September 30, 2017 09:24 PM (1ouh3)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 30, 2017 09:24 PM (AxFdW)
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 30, 2017 09:25 PM (QLvwG)
Leroy Anderson's "The Rakes of Mallow" is slow mood music compared with the lively "The Irish Washerwoman" and "Bugler's Holiday."
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 30, 2017 09:25 PM (hyuyC)
Fearless
A lot of the crash scenes use a score that is dissonant to the action, making that much more of an impression.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 30, 2017 09:23 PM
Agreed. Great movie to boot.
Posted by: otho at September 30, 2017 09:25 PM (qGuLD)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 30, 2017 09:19 PM (hyuyC)
--Goldsmith used a lot of French horns in the Patton score to be evocative of classical age battles.
Posted by: logprof at September 30, 2017 09:25 PM (GsAUU)
Posted by: runner at September 30, 2017 09:25 PM (9qbOD)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 30, 2017 09:26 PM (CNHr1)
Mister Bluebird's on my shoulder
It's the truth, it's actual
Ev'rything is satisfactual
Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
Wonderful feeling, wonderful day, yes sir!
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 30, 2017 09:26 PM (2wRtc)
Posted by: runner at September 30, 2017 09:26 PM (9qbOD)
He does a pretty good job of it too.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 30, 2017 09:26 PM (FUu/Z)
Posted by: gNewt at September 30, 2017 09:26 PM (eNqiW)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 30, 2017 09:27 PM (3DZIZ)
Before movies, what's called incidental music was used for plays to lend atmosphere. In short, it served the same function as soundtracks do to films.
Examples:
Felix Mendelssohn: A Midsummer Night's Dream
Franz Schubert: Rosamunde
Ludwig van Beethoven: Egmont
Edvard Grieg: Peer Gynt
Georges Bizet: L'Arlesienne
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 30, 2017 09:27 PM (TvLXq)
"just what makes that little old ant, think he'll move that rubber tree plant...."
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 30, 2017 09:28 PM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 30, 2017 09:28 PM (3DZIZ)
TJM... glad you liked "Alive". It's a good movie. They toned the actual story down for the movie and bewilderingly, gave little time to the Andes crossing (compared to what really happened)... but still a pretty faithful telling.
Posted by: otho at September 30, 2017 09:28 PM (qGuLD)
Posted by: runner at September 30, 2017 09:28 PM (9qbOD)
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Drapes don't match the carpet?
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at September 30, 2017 09:28 PM (j9SGE)
Posted by: Zombie John Landis at September 30, 2017 09:29 PM (bc2Lc)
My Dad and I listened to Ferde Grofe and Aaron Copland a lot. The Grand Canyon Suite and Rodeo respectively always struck me as longer pieces of music. They were both great, just not as concentrated as Leroy Anderson. All IMHO. Musical tastes are quite individual. I do know we have similar tastes in music.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 30, 2017 09:29 PM (hyuyC)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 30, 2017 09:26 PM (FUu/Z)
Clint is supposed to be an excellent jazz pianist.
Dudley Moore was a concert pianist. For the thread, have to add the use of Ravel's Bolero in Ten.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 30, 2017 09:29 PM (8gDQu)
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Damn Youtube commenters! Yeah, music composed by John Williams and played by John Willians but they're two diffefent people.
(JW is one of my two favorite guitarists, the other being Christophef Parkening.)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 30, 2017 09:29 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 30, 2017 09:29 PM (3DZIZ)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 30, 2017 09:29 PM (rnAwa)
Posted by: JTB at September 30, 2017 09:30 PM (V+03K)
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 30, 2017 09:30 PM (2wRtc)
Posted by: runner at September 30, 2017 09:31 PM (9qbOD)
12 Angry Men and a Baby It's You Light Up My Life of Brian's Song of the South.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
...Song of the South Pacific Rim
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at September 30, 2017 09:31 PM (di1hb)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 30, 2017 09:27 PM (TvLXq)
That whole suite is outstanding. Not a mediocre piece in it.
Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at September 30, 2017 09:31 PM (T71PA)
Posted by: logprof at September 30, 2017 09:32 PM (GsAUU)
Posted by: otho at September 30, 2017 09:32 PM (qGuLD)
Posted by: runner at September 30, 2017 09:32 PM (9qbOD)
Frost? Arnhem? Not getting the reference.
Full bells after underway replenishment set to that music? That might be better than Ride of the Valkyries.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 09:32 PM (TJu/K)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 30, 2017 09:33 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 30, 2017 09:34 PM (3DZIZ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 09:32 PM (TJu/K)
He's Starbuck to Kahn's Ahab.
Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at September 30, 2017 09:34 PM (T71PA)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 30, 2017 08:08 PM
Amen to this. Also, movies are too effing loud in general. When we go to the theatre, which is once in a blue moon, Mrs. Muse brings her ear plugs just to get the sound down to a manageable level.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer at September 30, 2017 09:34 PM (cvoba)
Posted by: runner at September 30, 2017 09:34 PM (9qbOD)
Posted by: gNewt at September 30, 2017 09:34 PM (eNqiW)
Clint is supposed to be an excellent jazz pianist.
Dudley Moore was a concert pianist. For the thread, have to add the use of Ravel's Bolero in Ten.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 30, 2017 09:29 PM (8gDQu)
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You wouldn't think jazz pianist watching Honkytonk Man. Country music all the way. Plus, I don't think he touches a piano in that one, just guitar. But, I don't doubt you on his other talents.
Bolero was used well in 10. As was Bo Derek.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 30, 2017 09:34 PM (pvjTE)
Posted by: Octopus at September 30, 2017 09:34 PM (TjN6o)
by ron goodwin. but he also wrote one of my favorites, "where eagles dare" - just one long crescendo. very much to the point.
goodwin made a career as a conductor around the world, and many times played his eagles dare theme. it was popular in englandconcert halls for a while. but "where eagles dare" was also a christmas day staple on british tv for a while i believe.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 30, 2017 09:36 PM (AxFdW)
Posted by: logprof at September 30, 2017 09:36 PM (GsAUU)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 30, 2017 09:37 PM (3DZIZ)
You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch
You really are a heel
You're as cuddly as a cactus, you're as charming as an eel, Mr. Grinch
You're a bad banana with a greasy black peel!
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 30, 2017 09:37 PM (2wRtc)
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Solveigs song
Posted by: runner at September 30, 2017 09:37 PM (9qbOD)
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Very disconcerting/anxiety inducing. Perfect fit for the movie.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 30, 2017 09:37 PM (Nwg0u)
Yes, when we were clear of the Unrep ship's bow we would use full rudder at flank speed. You had to hang on to the steel cable overhead to not fall to the bridge wing, and the ocean beyond. The other bridge wing door framed sky above the bridge wing railing.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 30, 2017 09:38 PM (hyuyC)
Posted by: runner at September 30, 2017 09:39 PM (9qbOD)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 09:39 PM (TJu/K)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 30, 2017 09:39 PM (/qEW2)
I think you got to hear Clint play a little bit of jazz piano in In The Line of Fire. He played a tiny bit in the bar scene ... I think ... but I don't really remember it that well. Fun movie.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 30, 2017 09:40 PM (8gDQu)
Wahoo florist, wahoo Doris
Why'd you steal our Winter gear?
Wahoo florist, wahoo Doris
Bring it back or face prosecution and civil proceedings.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 30, 2017 09:40 PM (2wRtc)
Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at September 30, 2017 09:40 PM (T71PA)
Posted by: runner at September 30, 2017 09:41 PM (9qbOD)
Posted by: wilbeforce at September 30, 2017 09:41 PM (Floa5)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 30, 2017 09:41 PM (rnAwa)
I can't really add too much to what TJM wrote, but I recall a youtube video talking about the sharp decline in soundtracks. The example he used was the marvel movies' music (might be searchable from that angle if folks are curious about hunting it up).
I don't know if I agree with him that Marvel movies have BAD scores, but he's probably right that we are seeing fewer original soundtracks created. Mostly because they aren't seen as necessary. Incidental music to heighten a scene is viewed as more important that writing a score you'll be humming days or years later.
Another cause he cites is the use of temp tracks. Basically the same few actual soundtracks are used by everyone as temp music as the film is being made. So increasingly the composer is told to write something similar to what someone else has already used, because the executives or director has gotten used to the music in the temp track.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 30, 2017 09:42 PM (xJa6I)
One of the things I appreciated about American Assassin was the lower volume. But I'm old and stodgy.
Posted by: kalneva at September 30, 2017 09:42 PM (vhW1R)
goodwin made a career as a conductor around the world, and many times played his eagles dare theme. it was popular in englandconcert halls for a while. but "where eagles dare" was also a christmas day staple on british tv for a while i believe.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 30, 2017 09:36 PM
I'm sure he's good and the bits (few that they are) aren't bad... it's just the constant repetition in BOB. I'm constaly hit over the head with it and it adds nothing... if it was employed sparingly it would work. I'm reduced to saying "I get it... they're the Luftwaffe. I get it it... those guys are the RAF... you don't have to repeat the bold themes EVERY time they're on screen, FFS!".
Posted by: otho at September 30, 2017 09:42 PM (qGuLD)
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 30, 2017 09:42 PM (2wRtc)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 30, 2017 09:42 PM (hyuyC)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 30, 2017 09:43 PM (rnAwa)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 08:05 PM (LuKE7)
Yep, it has a context and meaning outside of the movie itself.
James Gunn and Tarantino have a gift for using pop music in movies.
The Suicide Squad movie is an example of using pop music poorly.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 30, 2017 09:43 PM (xJa6I)
C.O. 2nd Bn. 1st Brigade. 1st British Parachute Division. IIRC His Battalion was the one that was tasked with capturing the Arnhem Bridge.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at September 30, 2017 09:43 PM (sf2BM)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 30, 2017 09:40 PM (8gDQu)
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You're right. I remember that scene. I don't recall the specific music, just that he didn't embarrass himself or anything. And he impressed Renee Russo.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 30, 2017 09:43 PM (pvjTE)
I'm hearing good things about BR2049. If Ridley Scott and Denis Villanueve can pull off the impossible and make a worthy sequel, good on them. I just was figuring the odds against them were about a billion to one.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 30, 2017 09:43 PM (eMKNe)
lol
he does pretty much the same thing in "where eagles dare". it works there, tho.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 30, 2017 09:44 PM (AxFdW)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 09:45 PM (TJu/K)
I am hoping that soundtracks like the one to Guardians Of The Galaxy, will turn on today's millenials to the classic rock and pop of the 1960s through 1980s.
It's probably an impossibly tall order however.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 30, 2017 09:45 PM (eMKNe)
On the other hand, Wiseguys had one of the best uses of sourced music around. Everything fit perfectly in that.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 30, 2017 09:45 PM (8gDQu)
Posted by: runner at September 30, 2017 09:46 PM (9qbOD)
Check the thread, I have posted YouTube links to all three Blade Runner 2049 prequel short films. Posted in sequence - 2022, 2036, and 2048.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 09:47 PM (TJu/K)
American Graffiti.
Legend has it, everything played was already represented in George Lucas' singles collection when he was a teenager.
He also used the song "Still I'm Sad" by Yardbirds, as the opener to his original student film "Electronic Labyrinth THX 1138 EB." The film itself however is... not good.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 30, 2017 09:47 PM (eMKNe)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=it49wmcKUt4
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 30, 2017 09:48 PM (Nwg0u)
In fact, I think the Waterloo Waltz is my favorite thing he ever did;
https://tinyurl.com/y6wb94d4
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 30, 2017 09:48 PM (3DZIZ)
ANITA
Puerto Rico . . .
You ugly island . . .
Island of tropic diseases.
Always the hurricanes blowing,
Always the population growing . . .
And the money owing,
And the babies crying,
And the bullets flying.
I like the island Manhattan.
Smoke on your pipe and put that in!
OTHERS
I like to be in America!
O.K. by me in America!
Ev'rything free in America
For a small fee in America!
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 30, 2017 09:48 PM (2wRtc)
I may-- *may*-- take the gamble on BR2049, if the buzz is good enough.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 30, 2017 09:48 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: runner at September 30, 2017 09:48 PM (9qbOD)
Posted by: MAGA at September 30, 2017 09:49 PM (LnOh3)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 09:49 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: logprof at September 30, 2017 09:50 PM (GsAUU)
The Usual Suspects by John Ottman was really good.
Tubular Bells from The Exorcist was my go-to horror track for a long time.
I also really like the Lord of the Rings soundtracks, very impressive work there, both the orchestral and the original music. 'Into the West' made me cry a little.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 30, 2017 09:50 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 09:50 PM (LuKE7)
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/blade_runner_2049/
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 30, 2017 09:50 PM (qJtVm)
2022 has Edward James Olmos voice Gaff. Jared Leto is in the 2036 short as the character he plays in 2049 .
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 09:51 PM (TJu/K)
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Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 30, 2017 09:27 PM (TvLXq)
I think that was in place in Baroque opera/oratorio as well. The "incidental" music was the recitatives, and the arias were the memorable tunes.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 30, 2017 09:51 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 30, 2017 09:51 PM (3DZIZ)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 30, 2017 09:52 PM (eMKNe)
Hollywood Knights with same theme was good also.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 09:52 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: runner at September 30, 2017 09:53 PM (9qbOD)
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Great scene. The cultured but impoverished Viennese invite Joseph Cotton to speak about the books he has written then find out he writes pulp westerns.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 30, 2017 09:53 PM (Nwg0u)
Gotta love Walter Hill's casting:
- The Keach Brothers
- The Carradine Brothers
- The Guest Brothers
- The Quaid Brothers
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 30, 2017 09:53 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 30, 2017 09:43 PM
I'm not holding my breath. But I do want to see it.
Posted by: otho at September 30, 2017 09:53 PM (qGuLD)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 30, 2017 09:53 PM (3DZIZ)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 30, 2017 09:53 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 30, 2017 09:53 PM (3DZIZ)
"Glockenspiel!"
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 30, 2017 09:54 PM (8gDQu)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 30, 2017 09:55 PM (3DZIZ)
Posted by: Margo of Virginia at September 30, 2017 09:55 PM (eM3Oh)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXVyrJO02Zo
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 30, 2017 09:55 PM (qJtVm)
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 30, 2017 09:55 PM (2wRtc)
Gotta love Walter Hill's casting:
- The Keach Brothers
- The Carradine Brothers
- The Guest Brothers
- The Quaid Brothers
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 30, 2017 09:53 PM
Yeah. Great movie. Hill is under rated. Fantastic Ry Cooder soundtrack, too. My only gripe was casting Stacy Keach's brother as Jesse.
Posted by: otho at September 30, 2017 09:55 PM (qGuLD)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 30, 2017 09:53 PM (eMKNe)
You've not seen Hollywood Knights?
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 09:55 PM (LuKE7)
But the idiots are trying to remake The Thin Man. How will they get Nick to stop smoking, drinking, or using a gun to take pot-shots as Christmas ornaments?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 09:55 PM (TJu/K)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 30, 2017 09:53 PM (3DZIZ)
Ah, fair point.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 30, 2017 09:56 PM (xJa6I)
Yes--also used Ravel's "Gaspard de la Nuit" slow movement. Chilling. Based on a poem about a body swaying on a gallows.
Posted by: stinkylegs at September 30, 2017 09:56 PM (YW4J1)
I think Cooder's made far more money as a scorer of films, than as a rock guitarist selling albums.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 30, 2017 09:56 PM (eMKNe)
I think that was in place in Baroque opera/oratorio as well. The "incidental" music was the recitatives, and the arias were the memorable tunes.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 30, 2017 09:51 PM (/qEW2)
Not quite. In opera and oratorio the music drives the story. Incidental music stands more in the background of the action on the stage.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 30, 2017 09:57 PM (TvLXq)
Posted by: Margo of Virginia at September 30, 2017 09:55 PM (eM3Oh)
Yes it was and I always have to say it when the movie is mentioned. They were on their way to Benghazi when they crashed.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 09:57 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 30, 2017 09:55 PM (3DZIZ)
Ry Cooder did some awesome guitar work for a little-known Ralph Macchio movie called "Crossroads". It was a pretty silly movie, but fun to watch, nonetheless. The guitar parts were stupendous! I think Stevie Vai was the other guitarist doing the music (and appearing in the film, too).
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 30, 2017 09:57 PM (8gDQu)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 30, 2017 09:58 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 09:58 PM (TJu/K)
Sean Penn, like Shia LaBeouf is kind of an indicator that the end is nigh.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 30, 2017 09:58 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 30, 2017 09:58 PM (3DZIZ)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 30, 2017 09:58 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 30, 2017 09:58 PM (rnAwa)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 30, 2017 09:58 PM (woJdg)
Posted by: runner at September 30, 2017 09:59 PM (9qbOD)
Wasn't Crossroads the movie version of Devil Went Down to Georgia?
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 09:59 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 30, 2017 10:00 PM (eMKNe)
Just remember, if you vote for it, I'll be knowingly suffering through one of the worst movies of the last decade for your enjoyment.
This is reason enough. Assassin's Creed it is!
Honestly though, I don't believe that Assassin's Creed is worth it. I got bored about 30 min in and shut it off. But it'll be worth making you suffer.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 30, 2017 10:00 PM (iFZVz)
Electronica remix of Das Boot by Disco Cell:
It's got a good bass line and you can dance to it. Love the sonar echo sound. Hmm, why is my wife laughing?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 30, 2017 10:00 PM (hyuyC)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 30, 2017 10:00 PM (qJtVm)
He did. I love the song Hush (Somebody's Calling My Name) from that soundtrack.
Posted by: no good deed at September 30, 2017 10:00 PM (eIQHF)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 30, 2017 10:00 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 30, 2017 09:58 PM (woJdg)
I saw it.
Good performance by Michael Keaton.
Horrible miscasting of Mitch Rapp. You'll want to punch him for the whole run time.
I give it a C.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 30, 2017 10:01 PM (xJa6I)
This is reason enough. Assassin's Creed it is!
Honestly though, I don't believe that Assassin's Creed is worth it. I got bored about 30 min in and shut it off. But it'll be worth making you suffer.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 30, 2017 10:00 PM (iFZVz)
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You people are so cruel...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 30, 2017 10:01 PM (Jj43a)
There's a lot of classics I have yet to catch up to. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 30, 2017 09:58 PM (eMKNe)
I envy you. I'd like to find a great movie that I haven't seen. One of my all time favorite comedy movies.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 10:02 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 09:59 PM (LuKE7)
Could be, but I thought it was the Robert Johnson devil-pact myth (if there was one?! )
But now that you mention it, it did follow The Devil Went Down To Georgia pretty well.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 30, 2017 10:02 PM (8gDQu)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 30, 2017 10:03 PM (eMKNe)
Yeah did the casting director not read the book?
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 10:03 PM (LuKE7)
According to Harrison Ford, he walked through the practical effect that made Rachel's eyes glow red in one scene. So Deckard's eyes also glowed red. Movie-goers spotted it and the speculation started that he was a Replicant.
Ridley Scott jumped on the bandwagon and said yes Deckard is a Replicant. Though the original screenwriter for Blade Runner says that Deckard is not a Replicant.
And the effect that started this mess? It was originally used in Fritz Lang's masterpiece Metropolis,
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 10:03 PM (TJu/K)
Posted by: stinkylegs at September 30, 2017 10:04 PM (YW4J1)
I admit I don't know a ton of actual classical pieces. I am just about to buy back my old CDs of Ravel's Bolero and Smetana's Moldau.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 30, 2017 10:05 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at September 30, 2017 09:05 PM (T71PA
I believe his first movie was "Cold Turkey". Dick Van Dyke plays a pastor (a chain smoker) who convinces the entire town to stop smoking in order to win a $1million challenge from a large tobacco company. Bob Newhart works under cover to sabotage their efforts. It's a very funny movie (also starring Tim Conway), and Randy's opening theme sets it up perfectly.
Posted by: bergerbilder at September 30, 2017 10:05 PM (lIZQs)
The main theme, labeled "Lara's Theme" when it was released as a single, actually first appears at the death of Zhivago's mother.
Whenever I hear it, I remember Zhivago asking some commie ideologue, "Have you never loved a woman?"
And in hyper-political times, when the Left is ascendant, the music really resonates.
What is real? What matters? The political or the personal?
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 30, 2017 10:06 PM (0jtPF)
Yeah did the casting director not read the book?
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 10:03 PM (LuKE7)
I don't know, man. I think they figured this kid was the 'new hot thing' that would get teenaged girls to see the movie.
The kid's terrible.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 30, 2017 10:07 PM (xJa6I)
You reminded me of Bye Bye Birdie. Wow that was fapping material for me as a kid.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 10:07 PM (LuKE7)
Interesting trivia fact: it was written, directed and produced by... Norman Lear, who was planning to go into movies if sitcoms didn't work out for him apparently; CT came out right at the time All In The Family started up. I believe he had already worked on a few theatrical films.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 30, 2017 10:07 PM (eMKNe)
42 Korngold and Rozsa I can see.
Prokofiev had to endure Stalin. "Arise ye Russian people!" in Alexander Nevsky is a not so subtle warning about the Nazis and a call to arms.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 07:54 PM (TJu/K)
As a side note, if you have copies of both films, look at Alexander Nevsky and the original Conan the Barbarian. Specifically, the outlandish helmets of the Teutonic Knights in Nevsky. They're EXACTLY the same as the ones worn by Thulsa Doom and his minions in the final battle.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 30, 2017 10:08 PM (iFZVz)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR)
That's depressing. Regardless of what bone-headed modifications they'd want to make, you can't replicate that kind of chemistry at will. Just treat it is a lucky accident and hands off.
But speaking of bone-headed modifications, I take it Nick and Nora will no longer be a caucasian cis-man and a caucasian cis-woman? I wonder who they think will go watch this movie. Younger audiences who would put up with that crap will never have watched the original.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 30, 2017 10:08 PM (/qEW2)
Mitch Rapp was any thing but a skinny little guy.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 30, 2017 10:09 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: runner at September 30, 2017 10:11 PM (9qbOD)
Posted by: Margo of Virginia at September 30, 2017 09:55 PM (eM3Oh)
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Actually, the 1965 original was called "The Flight of the Phoenix", while the 2004 remake was called "Flight of the Phoenix". TJM watched and commented on the remake.
Agreed about the original. The remake was pointless and just serves to distract from the original.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 30, 2017 10:11 PM (FUu/Z)
Well it looks like the possible remake of The Thin Man has been pulled. Maybe someone got a clue.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 10:12 PM (TJu/K)
On the Town, with Frank Sinatra and Gene Kelly, music by Leonard Bernstein and Roger Edens and Lenny Hayton.
Posted by: gNewt at September 30, 2017 10:15 PM (Xgp3y)
Posted by: runner at September 30, 2017 10:15 PM (9qbOD)
Posted by: stinkylegs at September 30, 2017 10:15 PM (YW4J1)
The use of a capella vocal choruses in anime soundtracks, like in "Ghost in the Shell" and the duels in "Utena" (episode 20 was the 1st I saw) are music I like. They draw me in.
Posted by: geoffb at September 30, 2017 10:16 PM (zOpu5)
Posted by: runner at September 30, 2017 10:17 PM (9qbOD)
One of these days might watch Aelita or not.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 30, 2017 10:17 PM (TJu/K)
Look at Amazon. Hopefully it's still available for a reasonable price.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 30, 2017 10:18 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: stinkylegs at September 30, 2017 10:21 PM (YW4J1)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 30, 2017 10:23 PM (/qEW2)
Doyle: Much Ado About Nothing (Lapinski)
Little Women (Lapinski)
The TV version of East of Eden (Kwan)
Honorable mentions: The Right Stuff, Rudy, The fanfares from Independence Day (the latter skated to by Marigold Ice Unity).
Some very effective scores not often mentioned: The Blue Max, The Professionals and Apollo 13.
For aviation buffs, 633 Squadron and The Battle of Britain.
You can't go wrong with Elmer Bernstein (Magnificent Seven, Great Escape , Animal House).
Bernard Herrman had some good ones, especially North by Northwest, The Day the Earth Stood Still and Jason and the Argonauts.
And one nobody knows about: Dave, by James Newton Howard.
Posted by: MichiCanuck at September 30, 2017 10:25 PM (y9C7q)
90 84 Tora , Tora, Tora was on TCM this afternoon. I had to do yardwork. Drat.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 30, 2017 08:02 PM (58eZn)
We sang "Torah, Torah, Torah" at temple today.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2017 08:04 PM (mbhDw)
Clever AND Funny. Well Done.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 30, 2017 10:41 PM (e1mEI)
Posted by: bobbymike at September 30, 2017 11:01 PM (gJ4xp)
I have a ton of Elmer Bernsteins. He scored many of John Wayne's films. That's the best thing about today's computer jukuboxes; you can pick and choose, then make yourself a playlist that skips the stuff you're not that find of. The song from Halleluja Trial will have me up and moving no matter how icky I feel. And the same for the first cut for The Commancheros.
I am so glad I discovered Intrada Records. They remaster and reissue out of print sound tracks. They even issue soundtracks that never saw the light of day when the movie came out. I picked up Hanover Street by John Barry, Amerika by Basil Poledoris, and a couple more I thought would never make it. A couple months ago, I was able to grab my last great white whale, the score for Lady Jane by Stephen Oliver. I had resigned myself to a couple of cuts on you tube. I had gone so far as to write Doug Whatshisname, owner of Intrada, to see if he was planning to release it, and he said no, and that he hadn't even heard any chatter about it from other sound track specialists. Then suddenly, there it was, put out by some outfit I can't remember.
I think one of my most favorite single tracks is "The Ecstasy of Gold" by Morricone from the Good, the Bad and the Ugly. The slow start, the increasing tempo, and that wild but with the triangle. About the only thing that comes close is Budget Meeting by Hans Zimmer for King Arthur. That man truly understands why God invented drum lines.
Posted by: Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable Ca at September 30, 2017 11:33 PM (Y2oYE)
Great movie score by a band that most people write off...
To Live and Die in LA by...
Wang Chung
Give it a listen on the YouTubes...
Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at October 01, 2017 12:10 AM (tDTdL)
Danny Elfman's "The Nightmare Before Christmas" soundtrack is excellent.
Maurice Jarre also composed the sountracks to "Dr. Zhivago", "Lawrence of Arabia", "Witness", and "Is Paris Burning?" (a 1960s WWII classic that included Kirk Douglas as George Patton - LOL). Plus, he did "Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome".
Posted by: mrp at October 01, 2017 12:26 AM (Pqytn)
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Posted by: Shopgirl at October 01, 2017 03:13 AM (IlyKZ)
James Horner has been mentioned earlier. He died not long ago, in a light-plane accident. He did three of my favorite action films: "Aliens", "The Rocketeer", and "Apollo 13". His score for the launch sequence in "Apollo 13" still brings tears to my eyes.
Bernard Herrmann's music for Hitchcock films was wonderful. But his best score, IMHO, was for "Citizen Kane". The opera in the movie, the one that Kane forces his wife to star in, is a perfect example of pastiche: You're certain you've heard it before, but you can't place it -- but it was Herrmann writing "typical" grand opera.
I given an honorable mention to Alan Silvestri's music for "Cast Away" . It's lovely and fits the action perfectly; but was impressed me was that the director, Robert Zemeckis, had no music at all during the scenes when Tom Hanks is alone on his island. It worked really well: which made the return of music, as Hanks' raft leaves the island behind, even more effective. (It is a wonder to me, by the way, how Zemeckis could make movies as good as "Cast Away" and "Wag the Dog", then turn out a piece of crap like "Beowulf". Go figure.)
Many years ago, I attended a concert of the University of Chicago Symphony, in which they played the score to "Alexander Nevsky" as the film was screened. The film's sound track kept the dialogue, but had scrubbed out the music. It was extremely effective: simply wonderful. Last summer, the Chicago Symphony did the same with Howard Shore's music for "The Lord of the Rings": they did the films three nights in succession. I missed those concerts, but it appears to be an annual event for the CSO at its Ravinia Festival: it should be well worth attending.
Finally: the worse musical score in any film, period, was the music for "The Omega Man". That's a pretty awful movie, but the music is beyond horrible.
Posted by: Brown Line at October 01, 2017 05:26 AM (a5bF3)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 01, 2017 05:58 AM (mpXpK)
Favorites - original King Kong, any Morricone, Keaton Batman. John Ford westerns.
Posted by: Jim H at October 01, 2017 06:45 AM (SaSvc)
Posted by: Bob at October 01, 2017 07:31 AM (iSEg0)
Another shoutout for Morricone for A Few Dollars More and the musical pocket watch.
What's Opera, Doc FTW!
Posted by: Grouchy Dino at October 01, 2017 08:50 AM (Gp6a2)
Posted by: JoshO at October 01, 2017 09:03 AM (Z/ntx)
There are some other points to remember from older movies. In "M", In the Hall of the Mountain King isn't just there for effect; it's key to the plot. It's a blind beggar remembering it which leads the criminals to Lorre (Becker). Recall that this is VERY early use of sound; Lang worked it in what is, so far as I know, a new way.
Another: the association of Bach's Toccatta with horror and Halloween is wholly due to its use with the silent Phantom of the Opera. Also, if you want a double-decker problematical, you can't beat the use of The Ride of the Valkyries for the Ride of the Klan in Birth of a Nation. Try showing that in Berkeley.
Finally, remaking the Thin Man? That trick never works. God, it'll suck, as much as the Women. (In fact, the book is disappointing, as Nick and Nora on the page aren't nearly so good as Powell and Loy on screen.) The closest I can think of to a successful remake actually fails because of the music. If it weren't for Doris Day and that f***ing song, The Man Who Knew Too Much would be much better than the original, despite the loss of Peter Lorre. But there it is, and it's too key to the plot to skip, unlike the Raindrops scene in Butch Cassidy, which is the reason God invented fast forward.
Posted by: George LeS at October 01, 2017 10:20 AM (+TcCF)
Another example of well used classical music: The opening sequence of the second X-Men movie, where the "Dies Irae" section from Mozart's Requiem accompanies Nightcrawler's attack on the President: *very* effective. Bryan Singer is one of the few directors who knows classical music and uses it effectively. Also, the use the "Mars" theme from Holst's "The Planets" made the trailer for that movie one of the best I've ever seen.
The sequence from "Master and Commander", where the young sailor is cut loose in the storm, is accompanied by a passage from Vaughn Williams' "Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis", one of the most glorious compositions ever penned. Its use in the scene greatly deepens what already is a very moving scene.
The use of classical music in "2001" was mentioned earlier. What isn't generally known is that Kubrick had commissioned an original score for the movie; and while the score was being prepared and recorded, he had plugged in the classical pieces as filler, while he edited the film. In the end, he found the classical pieces worked better than the score that he had commissioned, and so he kept them. BTW, the original score for "2001" is available on CD; I've heard bits of it: Meh.
Posted by: Brown Line at October 01, 2017 11:38 AM (a5bF3)
I agree wholeheartedly with all adherents of "Last of the Mohegans"
But I grew up on Eric Korngold, "Captain Blood!"
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