National Review's Rich Lowry Takes on Colleagues David French, Jay Nordlinger, and Jonah Goldberg: "If Trump Told You Not to Jump Off a ******* Bridge, Would You Jump Off The Bridge Just to Spite Him?"

It began with David French's insipid, deranged column claiming that while he opposed the anthem protests, well, after Trump said to stop it, it became "understandable."

His prissy sidekick Jay Nordlinger then decided to up the ante and claim that while he, too, hated the protests -- just hated them! -- he now found them "justifiable," just because Trump had spoken out against them.

Rich Lowry stepped up and bitch-slapped these hysterical bitches. And high time, too.

If Donald Trump Said Don’t Jump Off a F****** Bridge, Would You Do the Opposite?
by RICH LOWRY
I must rise to respectfully object to the pieces by David and Jay on kneeling. They argue that Trump’s crude exhortation to stand during the National Anthem makes the kneelers understandable (David) or sympathetic (Jay). As Jay argues, Trump’s riff changed everything. Kneeling to protest police brutality is a bad idea, but kneeling to give "a big middle finger," as Jay puts it, to the president of the United States is just fine. If your objection to kneeling is merely situational, I would think kneeling to address alleged systemic racism would be a more worthy cause than simply doing it to spite Trump.
But put that aside, because I don’t think disrespecting the flag is warranted in either circumstance, or any foreseeable circumstances...
What’s the limiting principle, by the way, on the do-the-opposite-of-Trump view? What if Trump said, "I hate those dirty anti-fa bastards who, if it were up to me, would be thrown into jail for burning the American flag?" Would we turn around and say burning the flag is a great way for leftists to stick it to the Man?

Jonah Goldberg, being Jonah Goldberg and really having only one idea, has to of course come in and declare "But I really don't like Trump!"

Rich Lowry kind of drops the big one by citing the actual NFL rules on the National Anthem, which specify it must be played before every game, and players must stand for it. So it seems that Trump was... right when he said someone could -- and should -- fine someone for refusing to stand. (Yeah I know he said "fire," but you can begin with a fine. And Trump tends to speak bombastically, if no one's noticed. But they could in fact be fired for repeated violations of the rules.)

We've seen the NFL forbid the making of other political statements -- Dallas Cowboys players were forbidden from wearing black armbands to commemorate the cops killed by the Black Lives Matter shooter; players were fined for wearing special cleats that honored 9/11. (Those fines were waived -- after public controversy about fining a player for honoring 9/11-- but the NFL made the point, and we didn't see those cleats again.)

Now the NFL has suspended its previously enforced rules to allow a disrespectful, anti-american protest of the National Anthem, and just because Trump points this out, NeverTrump cultists Jonah Goldberg, David French, and Jay Nordlinger are now on the #TakeTheKnee side of things?

AllahPundit, a now-unlinkable NeverTrumper, was fond of saying "Trumpism Corrupts."

Indeed it does -- but it seems to have primarily corrupted the NeverTrumpers themselves, who are now taking 180-degree-opposite positions than they used to claim to believe in just because of the happenstance that Trump also took that position.

Oh, and he said "son of a bitch" while saying it. How crude. How common. How vulgar and how scandalous. Let's join Brooke Baldwin in a cry-therapy Puddle Pile.

Nationalism -- which every conservative used to believe in -- is now a species of #Racism, just like the left always claimed, according to these folks corrupted by their hysterical reaction to Trump.

By the way, I don't know how one agitates relentlessly for foreign wars -- which will, inevitably, kill thousands (or tens of thousands) of civilians, whether by collateral damage or indirectly through privation - if you aren't a nationalist believing that Americans prize American lives and American safety more highly than the lives of non-Americans. Not that non-American lives mean nothing-- but that you prioritize Americans' lives and safety more highly, just because they're Americans.

Because, you know, you're supposed to look out for your family first and countrymen second.

That totally new Trumpian anti-conservative idea.

Populism -- Reagan was a populist, and the conservative movement has usually been described as populist overall, a reaction to the constant failures and self-dealing of the claimed "elite" institutions of government, media, and the academy - - is now likewise a dirty thing.

Apparently the left was right all along on that one too -- as Hillary Clinton said, the key message of 1984 is that we are to trust and obey our "elite" thought leaders without question.

I can't wait to see which pieces of core conservative principle these super-principled uncorruptable TruCons repudiate and revile next.

All disrespect intended.

Posted by: Ace at 12:53 PM

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1 There hate is so great they probably would jump off that bridge

Posted by: It's me donna at September 29, 2017 12:55 PM (O2RFr)

2 there=their

Posted by: It's me donna at September 29, 2017 12:55 PM (O2RFr)

3 It is absolutely fantastic to see all these charlatans exposed for what they really are.

If nothing else, Trump was worth it for Gorsuch and flushing the rats out of the Right.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at September 29, 2017 12:56 PM (6JL3d)

4 1 There hate is so great they probably would jump off that bridge
Posted by: It's me donna at September 29, 2017 12:55 PM (O2RFr)

Don't put it past them.

Posted by: WisRich at September 29, 2017 12:57 PM (G0vdT)

5 Hot Air used to be my first stop daily, now maybe go there once a week or less and then probably only skim it. When it became all anti-Trump all the time, they lost me. Now Ace is my #1 starting point--thanks all for being informative, entertaining and stand up in your opinions no matter what they might be--appreciate it!

Posted by: lb at September 29, 2017 12:57 PM (Ea9jC)

6 the NRO went to shit long ago. It is a PR organ for the RNCe. I even quit going there for morning links.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 29, 2017 12:57 PM (mpXpK)

7 Top ten baby!

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at September 29, 2017 12:57 PM (Jcg9Q)

8 AIBGATS.

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at September 29, 2017 12:58 PM (Jcg9Q)

9 AllahPundit, a now-unlinkable NeverTrumper

What a change over the years. Sad.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 29, 2017 12:59 PM (hyuyC)

10 Hmm..maybe Trump should say something like 'don't jump off the bridge because that would be disrespectful to life' ...it might be a win win situation.

Posted by: IC at September 29, 2017 12:59 PM (a0IVu)

11 Rush was on Hannity tv last night, and said that the country could be transformed if elected Republicans in DC would work with Trump for just THREE months.

/but.. they won't. Uniparty plus Trump is Not of the Political Body.

Posted by: shibumi at September 29, 2017 12:59 PM (aT+Bx)

12 Muh Principles.

I've felt for long time that this defense rang hollow. It's pathetic.

Posted by: SpifftheSpaceman GNAMM Survivor-Keeper of Shirt-Misplacer of Pants at September 29, 2017 12:59 PM (bFRJT)

13 Every day is opposite day at NRO.

Posted by: Lily(former Bronco Superfan) now of AoSHQ assassin in the night at September 29, 2017 01:00 PM (W2CpM)

14 Allahpundit "now-unlinkable"?

What was the final straw, if there was such a one?

Posted by: geewhiz at September 29, 2017 01:00 PM (ZGFBY)

15 OT: The NFL should go fullretard and announce that the Dixie Chicks will do the halftime show for the Superbowl.

Posted by: Paladin at September 29, 2017 01:00 PM (+Wvn3)

16 Trump has the NFL and it's players right where he wants them in a "Heads, he wins/ Tails, they lose" way.

If they stop this nonsense and stand for the anthem, Trump Wins.
If they persist in kneeling, or double down on the hate,
They Lose.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 29, 2017 01:00 PM (7uYFy)

17 now tell us how you really feel!

Posted by: Bored383 at September 29, 2017 01:01 PM (70HTk)

18 Allahpundit has been unlikable for a while now he's unreadable as well.

Posted by: SpifftheSpaceman GNAMM Survivor-Keeper of Shirt-Misplacer of Pants at September 29, 2017 01:01 PM (bFRJT)

19 All this time, I had been thinking that Lowry was at one with his #NeverTrumping underlings.

Happy to see that isn't completely true.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 29, 2017 01:01 PM (FUu/Z)

20 >>>If nothing else, Trump was worth it for Gorsuch and flushing the rats out of the Right.

I wish we could flush a little harder. It feels like we are up to our ankles in floating dead rats...

Posted by: Max Power at September 29, 2017 01:01 PM (q177U)

21 Allahpundit "now-unlinkable"?

He may be going the way of Chuckles. I love my bike seat, Johnson of Little gross footballs

Posted by: It's me donna at September 29, 2017 01:01 PM (O2RFr)

22 Can you imagine the insipid, limp wrist reaction Jeb would have had to the kneelers? He would have linked arms and knelt with them; and these clowns would have applauded his 'outreach'.

Posted by: Jean at September 29, 2017 01:02 PM (9TU00)

23 OT: The NFL should go fullretard and announce that the Dixie Chicks will do the halftime show for the Superbowl.
---

Variety reported that it's probably going to be Justin Timberlake.

There's a formula to who they pick. It's typically-- but not always-- an artist that has an album an a tour coming up.

I thought they might go with Roger Waters, who is already on tour, who hates Trump more than life itself. Plus, he might be bigger draw than the Chicks.

But probably Timberlake.

Posted by: shibumi at September 29, 2017 01:02 PM (aT+Bx)

24 If Little Lord Nevertrumplowry has gotten sick of your NeverTrumping, it's possible you've passed out of the arc of the known universe and entered the Unknown Batshit Expanse.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 29, 2017 01:02 PM (HtLSE)

25 If Donald Trump Said Don't Jump Off a F****** Bridge, Would You Do the Opposite?

Well let's have Trump tell them that and see what happens

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 29, 2017 01:03 PM (493sH)

26 I know this is almost a cliche but Allpundits old blog was quite amusing at one point. I think this was after 9-11 where he would goof on Islamists an terrorists.

Sad indeed!

Posted by: Max Power at September 29, 2017 01:03 PM (q177U)

27 Most of the political and commentariate "Conservative" Class are CON-servatives.

For all intents and purposes, the word conservative as applied to politics is meaningless.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 29, 2017 01:03 PM (2JcMg)

28 I hates the man and $hit.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 01:03 PM (LjR2k)

29 25 If Donald Trump Said Don't Jump Off a F****** Bridge, Would You Do the Opposite?

Well let's have Trump tell them that and see what happens
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 29, 2017 01:03 PM (493sH)

Worth a shot. Keep a good thought.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 29, 2017 01:04 PM (SRKgf)

30 The David French piece made me so mad I had a post disappeared.As much as I loathe the Left I hate these nancy boys even more.I thank Trump for exposing all these frauds.

Posted by: steevy at September 29, 2017 01:04 PM (rmVvL)

31 I wish we could flush a little harder. It feels like we are up to our ankles in floating dead rats...

Posted by: Max Power at September 29, 2017 01:01 PM (q177U)

Give it time, give it time... we'll have a good drain system soon.

The best, really. You might even say luxurious. o.0

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at September 29, 2017 01:04 PM (6JL3d)

32 Jonah has a number of good ideas.

Specifically, his thoughts on the rectification of names are insightful.

You can google it, but the tl;dr is that many cultural problems are due to the fact that we don't call things by their proper names.

As an example, a person who discusses root causes of social challenges minorities face is known as a "racist"

A person who is concerned with the correlation between poverty and ethnic culture is known as a "racist"

A person who disagrees with a leftist is known as a "racist", but also as a "facist".

It is an idea well worth exploring, and I recommend his essay.

Posted by: Sweet Lou at September 29, 2017 01:04 PM (4DuI9)

33 I note that that in the phrase "Puddle Pile" you misspelled "piddle, and also some feces pile"

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 29, 2017 01:05 PM (HtLSE)

34 The Corner really has become unreadable. A young Bill Buckley would have threatened these twerps with violence.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 29, 2017 01:05 PM (kwakj)

35 All NeverTrumpers are assholes, but not all assholes are NeverTrumpers

Posted by: Aristotle, redux at September 29, 2017 01:05 PM (Co9e8)

36 I got something different out of 1984.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 01:05 PM (LjR2k)

37 Rich Lowery in redemption mode. LOL

First you will blow me.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 29, 2017 01:06 PM (mcI77)

38 16 Trump has the NFL and it's players right where he wants them in a "Heads, he wins/ Tails, they lose" way.

If they stop this nonsense and stand for the anthem, Trump Wins.
If they persist in kneeling, or double down on the hate,
They Lose.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 29, 2017 01:00 PM (7uYFy)

Exactly. He picked his fight carefully, or at least it appears so to me.

And people think he's an idiot.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 29, 2017 01:06 PM (SRKgf)

39 National Review and Weekly Standard are the organs of polite company conservatives, and I do mean organs: tiny and flaccid.

Posted by: joncelli, predenounced for your pleasure at September 29, 2017 01:06 PM (RD7QR)

40 See I told you this was all going to be lost because of Trump!

Posted by: Eeyore of Chocolate City at September 29, 2017 01:06 PM (cAnNx)

41 Jesus.. just found a girl shot herself at the high school down the street from me. School was on lockdown and she was rushed to the local hospital but has since passed away. Fuck this week hard.

Posted by: deplorable Jewells45 at September 29, 2017 01:06 PM (zRZaJ)

42 Yeah,except Goldberg would probably now agree that Trump saying the sky is blue is a racist dog whistle.

Posted by: steevy at September 29, 2017 01:06 PM (rmVvL)

43 I wish we could flush a little harder. It feels like we are up to our ankles in floating dead rats...

Posted by: Max Power at September 29, 2017 01:01 PM (q177U)

Yeah, but at least the rats are dead, and not gnawing away at America the way they were before.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 29, 2017 01:07 PM (SRKgf)

44 42 The Wrestler?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 01:07 PM (LjR2k)

45 Trump didn't create the progressive moles on the Right, he revealed them.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 29, 2017 01:07 PM (60v4h)

46 Well, if Rich Lowry is the one with the balls, NRO must be in a sad state indeed.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer at September 29, 2017 01:07 PM (cvoba)

47 *Gulp*

Posted by: AllahCuntdit at September 29, 2017 01:07 PM (EVi2J)

48 Specifically, his thoughts on the rectification of names are insightful.

It's so very weird. He spoke for so long on the rectification of names, the totalitarian impulses of the left and how they'd eventually produce backlash... but when it actually happened, it was the wrong people at the helm - so he felt left at the altar and retreated to sob into his Binky or something.

Just... weird.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 29, 2017 01:08 PM (HtLSE)

49 If Donald Trump Said Don't Jump Off a F****** Bridge, Would You Do the Opposite?

I would like to see this tested.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 29, 2017 01:09 PM (60v4h)

50
The NFL has shown they are fully behind SJW causes. Wasn't there a Dolphins player who made a comment about Michael Sam who had to go to a re-education about it? It's about time the NFL got really called out on all of it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 29, 2017 01:09 PM (493sH)

51 I resent being told I have to vote for a woman b/c I am a woman. And that if I don't I'm voting against myself.

What kind of retrograde crap is that? It's def. not the feminist thinking I grew up with. It's insulting.

I just had to get that out there.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 01:09 PM (2zIj5)

52 If Rich Lowry is telling you to butch up....

Posted by: blaster at September 29, 2017 01:09 PM (VLfxt)

53 Trump uses hyperbole?

Maybe even sarcasm.....

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 29, 2017 01:09 PM (CPk08)

54 deplorable Jewells45

There are many empty people in schools. They are adrift as time-tested moral underpinnings are jackhammered by schools. Deliberately.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 29, 2017 01:09 PM (hyuyC)

55 Nationalism -- which every conservative used to believe in -- is now a specie of #Racism,

Just out of curiosity, I think this is the 2nd time you've used "specie" recently. If you mean "type of", I think you use "species". Specie is coin.

I could be wrong of course. It's that damn Trump.

Posted by: pep at September 29, 2017 01:09 PM (5GcKk)

56 If the fans don't want to come to the game, no one can stop them.

Posted by: Yogi Berra at September 29, 2017 01:10 PM (fSf/G)

57 He picked his fight carefully, or at least it appears so to me.

And people think he's an idiot.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 29, 2017 01:06 PM (SRKgf)

This.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 29, 2017 01:10 PM (tbOMB)

58 Rich Lowry stepped up and bitch-slapped these hysterical bitches. And high time, too.
===

Good on ya, Rich.

Tucker Carlson dumped the bow-tie and just look at him now.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 01:10 PM (2wRtc)

59 ace, thank you for laying this all out in one post.

Posted by: willow at September 29, 2017 01:10 PM (FKrah)

60 When it [HotAir] became all anti-Trump all the time

IIRC, the drift in HA in general and Allahpundit in particular occurred well after Michelle Malkin sold the site to TownHall, but I don't have a timeline and don't want to do any research, but I'm sure we can crowdsource a few data points.

I mean, it can't have been just Trump, right? I really wanna blame TownHall, you know?

Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 29, 2017 01:10 PM (u0s1P)

61 Just make sure you jump after Jonah because you could land on that fat fuck and survive the fall

Posted by: NCKate at September 29, 2017 01:10 PM (mti3B)

62 A young Bill Buckley would have threatened these twerps with violence.

"How Bill Buckley's emoted violence and use of the slur 'q****' indicates an irrational reactionary tendency in the far right alternate culture - and what must be done" - David French

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 29, 2017 01:10 PM (HtLSE)

63 Good for Rich Lowry.

National Review needs to clean house. I hope they can figure something out, I always had a soft spot for them and what William F Buckley did.

Had WFB and National Review never came about, we'd probably be like Europe where there's a pretty much a consensus on both right and left.

Posted by: Maritime at September 29, 2017 01:10 PM (lKmt3)

64 Semi OT/semi related flag flap:

My wife works for Williams-Sonoma in Customer Service.
Had a person return 2 crystal bowls with the NFL and team logos on them, one being the Cowboys specifically because of the flag issue. FWIW.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 29, 2017 01:11 PM (XMGl9)

65 I am sure I am not the only one that remembers the Jim McMahon Pete Rozelle fines of the '80's..

http://articles.latimes.com/1986-01-14/sports/sp-28009_1_adidas-headband

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 29, 2017 01:11 PM (tbOMB)

66 CNN survives off of subscribers rather than viewers. They get your money if you have cable.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 01:11 PM (LjR2k)

67 Willowed form the last thread, but:

Alexthechick has a Dad-status report.

It's a bleeding ulcer. That's the best of what had been the possibilities and should be not a problem to fix.

She thanks you for your prayers.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 29, 2017 12:52 PM

Thanks for that update. Let her know she and her dad and family are still in our prayers.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 29, 2017 01:11 PM (p+Wdc)

68 As President, Trump is the CEO of the executive branch of government and the Commander in Chief of all US forces. As such he has not just a right to speak up for respect to the flag and anthem but also, I argue, a duty.
Had he not, I would have been very disappointed.
As for what he said...ehhh...he's from Brooklyn. I don't expect Ivy League articulation.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 29, 2017 01:12 PM (M+MSn)

69
Oh, and he said "son of a bitch" while saying it. How crude. How common. How vulgar and how scandalous.

According to our Style Guides it needs to be pluralized. As in 'sons of bitches' in order to encompass the entire NFL including those players not rightfully exhibiting their First Amendment rights.

Please adjust your records accordingly.

Posted by: The MSM at September 29, 2017 01:12 PM (EgwCt)

70 I resent being told I have to vote for a woman b/c I am a woman. And that if I don't I'm voting against myself.

Michelle says you didn't want to speak with Hillary's voice, who speaks for you. She's your voice!!! What are you, some kind of man-voiced fake woman weirdo who isn't our kind of man-voiced fake woman weirdo???

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 29, 2017 01:12 PM (HtLSE)

71 a girl shot herself at the high school down the street from me. School was on lockdown and she was rushed to the local hospital but has since passed away.

I hated HS. My opinion of it hasn't changed. Young people are largely feral and vicious.

Posted by: pep at September 29, 2017 01:12 PM (5GcKk)

72 AIBGATS.

Ha! I only just now realized what this meant.

Yes, I am slow ... but faster than The Scorpion!

Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 29, 2017 01:12 PM (60v4h)

73 60 When it [HotAir] became all anti-Trump all the time

IIRC, the drift in HA in general and Allahpundit in particular occurred well after Michelle Malkin sold the site to TownHall, but I don't have a timeline and don't want to do any research, but I'm sure we can crowdsource a few data points.

I mean, it can't have been just Trump, right? I really wanna blame TownHall, you know?

Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 29, 2017 01:10 PM (u0s1P)

Except Townhall has Kurt Shlichter posting there and he definitely doesn't seem to be anti-Trump based on that sidebar piece.

Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2017 01:13 PM (cAnNx)

74

AllahPundit, a now-unlinkable NeverTrumper, was fond of saying "Trumpism Corrupts."

---

Why not link to everything and some creative type come up with a way to have an auto-click system where we don't need to actually click and close the links, but you get to hit them up for referral / traffic fees (or however that works)?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 29, 2017 01:13 PM (rjrh3)

75 Good news about AtC's dad.

Posted by: steevy at September 29, 2017 01:13 PM (rmVvL)

76 AllahPundit, a now-unlinkable NeverTrumper, was fond of saying "Trumpism Corrupts.

==

ah, "Trumpism Corrupts"; that was a nice piece of sophistry ( that Bill Kristol created), on par with "Ignorance is Strength"

Posted by: runner at September 29, 2017 01:14 PM (QC/4S)

77 Bravo, Ace! Give 'em hell. They have been insufferable on Twitter lately.

Posted by: Che Pizza at September 29, 2017 01:14 PM (mjirE)

78 50
... It's about time the NFL got really called out on all of it

It time for the NFL to get augered into the ground and a Hooters built on top of it.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 29, 2017 01:14 PM (mcI77)

79 But probably Timberlake.

Posted by: shibumi at September 29, 2017 01:02 PM (aT+Bx)

Justin Timberlake or Justin Beeper? Interchangeable nonentities, they are. I cannot think of one song by either that I know the name of. I mean, I have probably heard their shit, because pop music is unavoidable, but all I heard was noise.

Timberlake's only real claim to fame is having exposed Janet Jackson's "saggy and veiny" (Thanks, Mark Steyn.) boob on some prior Super Bowl show. That's it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 29, 2017 01:14 PM (O848g)

80 To be fair, AllahPundit started to suck long before Trump came along.

Posted by: West at September 29, 2017 01:14 PM (1Rgee)

81 60 When it [HotAir] became all anti-Trump all the time

IIRC, the drift in HA in general and Allahpundit in particular occurred well after Michelle Malkin sold the site to TownHall, but I don't have a timeline and don't want to do any research, but I'm sure we can crowdsource a few data points.

I mean, it can't have been just Trump, right? I really wanna blame TownHall, you know?
Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 29, 2017 01:10 PM (u0s1P)

HA really seemed to go downhill around the time they hired Noah Rothman away from Mediaite.

Rothman was the most right-leaning of the Lefties on Mediaite, but that's about the same as being the Tallest Midget.

He heralded Allahpundit's leftward shift, and Special Ed followed not long after that.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 29, 2017 01:14 PM (XMDuf)

82 Wondering if commie Raponeis also a muslim convert potential jihadi...

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/276962/

Posted by: steevy at September 29, 2017 01:14 PM (rmVvL)

83 bergerbuilder is having surgery right now (artery? I think?)

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 01:14 PM (2wRtc)

84 I used to read NR. It was on a long, slow downhill slide even before WFB died, but once he was gone, the magazine and its writers - with the exceptions of Mark Steyn and Florence King - became unbearable.

I once bought Jonah Goldberg a beer. Had I known what a complete nickelfucker he'd turn out to be, I'd have thrown it in his smug, doughy face.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 29, 2017 01:15 PM (X6fMO)

85 I have a question. Where does this expression "First you will blow me" come from? A movie? A show?
Because I have never heard it aside from the internet and thankfully men in my life haven't used that expression when speaking of oral sex, because I'd just laugh or say, "yes, sir, sir? "Was that an order?" and snicker.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 01:15 PM (iVOAv)

86 Timberlake's only real claim to fame is having exposed Janet Jackson's "saggy and veiny" (Thanks, Mark Steyn.) boob on some prior Super Bowl show. That's it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM

was that porn or art?

Posted by: Rick in SK at September 29, 2017 01:15 PM (FZYNt)

87 He's not only ruined the NFL, he's also ruined Dr. Seuss for me. I just can't get into it anymore, now that I realize what racist crap those books are.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at September 29, 2017 01:15 PM (/qEW2)

88 "I must rise to respectfully object to the pieces by David and Jay on kneeling."

** TWEET ** Flag on the play. Split infinitive by a professional wordsmith.

500 words and loss of ad revenue.

Posted by: AoSHQ Grammar Umpire at September 29, 2017 01:15 PM (ctuyM)

89 I'm not a O'Reilly fan, but I'll take intelligent thinking where I find it.

In his interview he laid out the end game for all the crap that is going on. Tied together all the threads. I think he is spot on. If I read it last year, I would have thought he was nuts. Not anymore.

It also scared me. This NFL thing is the battle before the battle. I hope we get it right.

Oh, and may Obama's evil plans implode.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 01:16 PM (2zIj5)

90 Said often before, but truer every day he's in office: Trump makes all the right enemies.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 29, 2017 01:16 PM (ylUqT)

91 Will pray for Bergerbuolder. thanks for bringing it up, Mortimer. wasn't sure when the surgery was to happen.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 01:16 PM (iVOAv)

92 Because I have never heard it aside from the
internet and thankfully men in my life haven't used that expression when
speaking of oral sex, because I'd just laugh or say, "yes, sir, sir?
"Was that an order?" and snicker.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 01:15 PM (iVOAv)

Mel Gibson rant at his ex or soon to be.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 29, 2017 01:16 PM (tbOMB)

93 Timberlake's only real claim to fame is having exposed Janet Jackson's "saggy and veiny" (Thanks, Mark Steyn.) boob on some prior Super Bowl show. That's it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 29, 2017 01:14 PM (O848g)

Implying a vascular boob is a bad thing.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:16 PM (XFue2)

94 Hot Air went to crap in a determined way when poppin' fresh opened his pie hole there

Posted by: NCKate at September 29, 2017 01:16 PM (mti3B)

95
was that porn or art?
===

Depends. How many marriages did it wreck?

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 01:16 PM (2wRtc)

96 Timberlake's only real claim to fame is having exposed Janet Jackson's "saggy and veiny" (Thanks, Mark Steyn.) boob on some prior Super Bowl show. That's it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 29, 2017 01:14 PM (O848g)

Well, and tweener girls thought he was cute for about 15 minutes 5 years ago. But apparently you can build a career on that.

Posted by: joncelli, predenounced for your pleasure at September 29, 2017 01:16 PM (RD7QR)

97 was that porn or art?

It was simply embarrassing.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 29, 2017 01:16 PM (XMGl9)

98 A lot of these TruCon idiots are acting like Trump proposed some law in Congress that NFL players "had to" stand before the flag. All he said was "I'd like to see"

Isn't funny though that the wisest and most level headed elder statesman of all time in their eyes, George HW Bush, proposed something as silly as a Constitutional Amendment on flag burning and none of these people made a peep about that or a comparison?

I'd say a President proposing a Constitutional amendment on flag etiquette is a way bigger deal than a President who used to own a football team just giving an opinion on NFL idiocy.

Posted by: Maritime at September 29, 2017 01:16 PM (lKmt3)

99 Wow, didn't know Rich Lowry had it in him!

And last I checked: Trump got them to stand. In less than 1 week.

Who cares if they linked arms? They stood and they made statements clearly stating they support the flag, then anthem, and our military.
Isn't that exactly the outcome the NRO crew wanted?!?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2017 01:16 PM (W+vEI)

100 "Trumpism corrupts" = "Clinging to a life raft has filled you with an irrational liking for rafts, which are stupid because there are perfectly good boats nowhere near your shipwreck, and you're stupid too."

"What are you going to do, go on a cruise with a raft now? Have you abandoned 500 years of boat technology for your precious raft?!"

"Fucking #raftists, smh"

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 29, 2017 01:16 PM (HtLSE)

101 I mean, it can't have been just Trump, right? I really wanna blame TownHall, you know?
Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 29, 2017 01:10 PM (u0s1P)

Allahpundit started going downhill when he sold the site to Michelle Malkin and became, basically, her employee. And that was way before Trump.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer at September 29, 2017 01:16 PM (cvoba)

102 Imma guess that National Review is against tax cuts now because Trump is for them....

Posted by: blaster at September 29, 2017 01:17 PM (ilmE9)

103 85 From Mel Gibson's drunken rant.

Posted by: steevy at September 29, 2017 01:17 PM (rmVvL)

104 Timberlake's only real claim to fame is having exposed Janet Jackson's "saggy and veiny" (Thanks, Mark Steyn.) boob on some prior Super Bowl show. That's it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

*Ahem*

Posted by: Britney Spears at September 29, 2017 01:17 PM (/qEW2)

105 15 OT: The NFL should go fullretard and announce that the Dixie Chicks will do the halftime show for the Superbowl.
Posted by: Paladin at September 29, 2017 01:00 PM (+Wvn3)

I laughed way too hard at that.

Posted by: rickl at September 29, 2017 01:17 PM (xjiRE)

106 It is an idea well worth exploring, and I recommend his essay.

Posted by: Sweet Lou at September 29, 2017 01:04 PM (4DuI9)

"Rectification of Names" is an old Chinese concept, and Ace has discussed it here.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 29, 2017 01:17 PM (O848g)

107 >>>Justin Timberlake or Justin Beeper? Interchangeable nonentities, they are. I cannot think of one song by either that I know the name of.

Bring Sexy Back.

Posted by: Britney Spears at September 29, 2017 01:18 PM (/qEW2)

108 New Mel Gibson tape contains the hotly anticipated "Blow Me First"

https://tinyurl.com/firstblowme

Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 29, 2017 01:18 PM (60v4h)

109 Re: Hotair #NeverTrump decline

The peak was reached during the primaries when there were little things realized that began to open users' eyes. One of the most glaring was being shown links where the Hotair writers would submit pieces to their commenters only to go to Twitter or Facebook to link back while telling their True Conservative friends to come laugh at their commenters.

The ultimate collapse came when they performed a full and total ban of all their users because they couldn't only ban people who kept debating them on what Trump was actually doing and calling them out on their #NeverTrump articles.

They switched to facebook to purge their comment section. Nothing more.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 29, 2017 01:18 PM (rjrh3)

110 86 Timberlake's only real claim to fame is having exposed Janet Jackson's "saggy and veiny" (Thanks, Mark Steyn.) boob on some prior Super Bowl show. That's it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM

was that porn or art?
Posted by: Rick in SK at September 29, 2017 01:15 PM (FZYNt)

In public its art.

Posted by: Marina Abramovic at September 29, 2017 01:18 PM (XFue2)

111 Oh, and may Obama's evil plans implode.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 01:16 PM (2zIj5)

I pray for that and the implosion of the deep state by name-those of it know of anyway- everyday-as well as their conversion , of course, because will e I can understand not liking your successor but to pray for their downfall-just evil.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 01:18 PM (iVOAv)

112 NRO -limousine liberals -most of them anyway.

BTW -I subscribed to NR for years but cancelled after the stop Trump issue.

Very rarely do I go to their site now.

Posted by: Glenn John at September 29, 2017 01:18 PM (LilNs)

113 I would have twice as much respect for the NFLers if they would continue their protest and go out of business, and get a real job that they are qualified for, whatever the hell that might be. Remind me, how much is two times zero.

Faux patriotism for money and career advancement reminds me too much of the Democrats.

And they plan to continue using the flag and anthem to make statements about social justice, which is not what they are for.

I'm a Canadian by the way, but I find their behavior as contemptible as y'all do. The US has been a bit late to the party twice, but the world owes a lot to that flag and anthem for what peace, freedom and civilization we have.

I have spoken. Go Bruins! (Boston).

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 29, 2017 01:18 PM (kfcYC)

114 >>In his [O'Reilly's] interview he laid out the end game for all the crap that is going
on. Tied together all the threads. I think he is spot on. If I read
it last year, I would have thought he was nuts. Not anymore.

Is there a link for this?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2017 01:18 PM (W+vEI)

115 I'd say a President proposing a Constitutional amendment on flag etiquette is a way bigger deal than a President who used to own a football team just giving an opinion on NFL idiocy.

I remember when support of such an amendment was a requirement for Republican candidates.

Posted by: blaster at September 29, 2017 01:18 PM (ilmE9)

116 88 "I must rise to respectfully object to the pieces by David and Jay on kneeling."

** TWEET ** Flag on the play. Split infinitive by a professional wordsmith.

500 words and loss of ad revenue.
Posted by: AoSHQ Grammar Umpire at September 29, 2017 01:15 PM (ctuyM)

There. Is. Nothing. Wrong. With. Split. Infinitives. [Pulls out Claymore] En garde!

Posted by: joncelli, predenounced for your pleasure at September 29, 2017 01:18 PM (RD7QR)

117 If Little Lord Nevertrumplowry has gotten sick of
your NeverTrumping, it's possible you've passed out of the arc of the
known universe and entered the Unknown Batshit Expanse.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 29, 2017 01:02 PM

Do we get cool goatees?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 29, 2017 01:18 PM (p+Wdc)

118 I know Jonah Goldberg doesn't care for Trump--and neither does Podhoretz. I'm staying away fro the Jewish or Neo-Con angle, but both are New Yorkers and I wonder if Trump's real estate or business dealings in New York City have something to do with why he makes them lose their shit.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 29, 2017 01:18 PM (7uYFy)

119 It worked at Stamford Bridge.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 01:18 PM (LjR2k)

120 Reminder:

NFL Players have US Flag decals on the backs of their helmets.

A friend went on a 'oh, sure, kneeling quietly is such a terrible thing ON A SUNDAY'

I asked him if he'd knelt quietly while everyone else was standing and singing the opening hymn.

Turns out he hadn't been to church in 30 years.

-

Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 29, 2017 01:18 PM (uBKPR)

121 102 Imma guess that National Review is against tax cuts now because Trump is for them....
Posted by: blaster at September 29, 2017 01:17 PM (ilmE9)

I'm still waiting for NR to put out a "Maybe Mao and Stalin weren't so bad after all..." article at this point.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 29, 2017 01:18 PM (XMDuf)

122 OT: I absolutely love The Morning Rant by OregonMuse, and especially by the Alpha-Male Silverback Toastmaster!

Posted by: MoJoTee at September 29, 2017 01:19 PM (0cipj)

123 >>Hot Air went to crap in a determined way when poppin' fresh opened his pie hole there

My only quibble with this is that it was already pretty crappy. But the Captain Ed is pretty tedious.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 29, 2017 01:19 PM (/tuJf)

124 102 - Not NR, but Bruce Bartlett just penned sn op/ed against tax cuts.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 29, 2017 01:19 PM (kwakj)

125 so a demo that regularly uses the mofo epithet gets butthurt because POTUS said the SOB word. Got it.

Posted by: kallisto at September 29, 2017 01:19 PM (7l5V0)

126 118 In Goldbergs case Trump insulted his mother.Personal grudge.

Posted by: steevy at September 29, 2017 01:19 PM (rmVvL)

127 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 29, 2017 01:14 PM (O848g)

Have you been trapped in a cabin without mode of communication except to aos?

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 29, 2017 01:20 PM (N7KlP)

128 "Rectification of Names"
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 29, 2017 01:17 PM

This is about me here at the AoSHQ, isn't it?

Posted by: Hope Solo at September 29, 2017 01:20 PM (ctuyM)

129 101 I mean, it can't have been just Trump, right? I really wanna blame TownHall, you know?
Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 29, 2017 01:10 PM (u0s1P)

Allahpundit started going downhill when he sold the site to Michelle Malkin and became, basically, her employee. And that was way before Trump.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer at September 29, 2017 01:16 PM (cvoba)

Isnt Malkin beholden to Salem Media?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:20 PM (XFue2)

130 re: Justin Timberlake

I'm as or more Conservative than the lot of you and I like Justin Timberlake - not in a gay way.

Like a Viking.

_

Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 29, 2017 01:20 PM (uBKPR)

131 I liked the NFL and the Dixie Chicks
I also like a good steak dinner.
But if a restaurant force feeds me kale and quinoa before bringing me what I ordered, I'll leave and not return, and bitch about it to everyone I know.
Same scenario with the Chicks and the NFL

Posted by: Downcast at September 29, 2017 01:20 PM (y5gtJ)

132 I don't think Trump actually "chose" this fight, in the sense that it was some marginal thing that came along, and he made some cold decision that involvement was to his advantage.

Trump is not Clinton, or the RNC, or even the considerably dimmer Obama. He does not poll where to take his summer vacation (Clinton, literally, and unbelievably, did this).

That's one of his trademarks, that's surely one of his appealing characteristics - he is what he is, he says what he thinks. He was/is routinely mocked for being too spontaneous and careless in his reactions - no, but news alert: when it looks like he's reacting spontaneously, he probably is.

What universe are we in where a president criticizing disrespect of the national anthem in one of the most popular/widely viewed entertainment arenas is interpreted as some 8-dimensional political chess?

Posted by: rhomboid at September 29, 2017 01:20 PM (NDlpU)

133 Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 29, 2017 01:18 PM (uBKPR)

That was a good analogy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 01:20 PM (iVOAv)

134 i agree about "allahpundit"

he's twisted off, and in the most unappealing way

Posted by: happyfeet at September 29, 2017 01:20 PM (mLfQi)

135 Mel Gibson hovers over & often crosses the crazy divide.

But I will admit, I did like his sugar tits phrase. I would have preferred sugar boobs, but sugar is sugar. Never heard it before & laughed.

Posted by: A female, denouncing self for post at September 29, 2017 01:21 PM (2zIj5)

136 Bruce Bartlett just penned sn op/ed against tax cuts.
***
Trump should come out and announce a new federal holiday honoring the cuteness of puppies....because you know the NeverTrumpers would come out with screeds against puppies...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 29, 2017 01:21 PM (eSx+E)

137 130 re: Justin Timberlake

I'm as or more Conservative than the lot of you and I like Justin Timberlake - not in a gay way.

Like a Viking.

_
Posted by: BumperStickerist

let me guess, you wear crocs too?

Posted by: Rick in SK at September 29, 2017 01:21 PM (FZYNt)

138 good on Lowry, who has historically been awful, but today shows some courage.

I don't care for David French and I have no clue how he still has standing in Conservative, Inc. he is my pick to be the next one to go Brock.

as for Jonah Goldberg, a hiltsener tsung zol er bakumn.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 29, 2017 01:21 PM (63sh5)

139 85
I have a question. Where does this expression "First you will blow me" come from? A movie? A show?

Because I have never heard it aside from the internet and
thankfully men in my life haven't used that expression when speaking of
oral sex, because I'd just laugh or say, "yes, sir, sir? "Was that an
order?" and snicker.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 01:15 PM (iVOAv)

it originally came from a message that Mel Gibson left on his wife's answering machine. She spread it out to the public wishing to embarrass him. In didn't quite work put the way she wanted.

The Morons have adopted it as a Meme now so it will last forever.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 29, 2017 01:21 PM (mpXpK)

140 Lowry? Will the wonders never cease? I've long argued he is the weakest of the NR brigade, and his editorship ruined the magazine and the site. I'm not backing off of that, and it's something I was saying long before 2016. He is far the least interesting of the major writers; this may be the first column I'll remember a week later.

That said, he's right. Not that a few dozen haven't said it better, but this is good because it's aimed directly against the sulkers. (Nordlinger might as well carry around a mattress, saying "Trump raped me on this.")

So Lowry has justified his existence at last.

Posted by: George LeS at September 29, 2017 01:21 PM (+TcCF)

141 >>OT: The NFL should go fullretard and announce that the Dixie Chicks will do the halftime show for the Superbowl.

Did you miss the Beyonce Black Panther song debuting at the 2016 Super Bowl halftime show?!? Performance complete with Beyonce and back-up dancers doing the black power fist.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2017 01:21 PM (W+vEI)

142 Glenn Beck is probably the most satisfying victim of the Nevertrumper Suicide Cult. Both of his websites at an all time low for viewership...as well as sliding to number 5 for national radio hosts...ha, ha, ha...

Posted by: Lord Alfred Hayes at September 29, 2017 01:21 PM (7DG+y)

143 >>>Just out of curiosity, I think this is the 2nd time you've used "specie" recently. If you mean "type of", I think you use "species". Specie is coin.

aaargh, you're right. I thought I was being so erudite by using specie correctly, and yet, by avoiding the obvious word species, I was using specie incorrectly.

Thanks. If you hadn't'd said anything, I'd've kept making that error.

Posted by: ace at September 29, 2017 01:22 PM (8rNrN)

144 92 Because I have never heard it aside from the
internet and thankfully men in my life haven't used that expression when
speaking of oral sex, because I'd just laugh or say, "yes, sir, sir?
"Was that an order?" and snicker.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 01:15 PM (iVOAv)

Mel Gibson rant at his ex or soon to be.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 29, 2017 01:16 PM (tbOMB)

Also, if you care to notice, here at the HQ the sex of the target of the phrase is irrelevant.

Posted by: West at September 29, 2017 01:22 PM (1Rgee)

145 55 Nationalism -- which every conservative used to believe in -- is now a specie of #Racism,

Just out of curiosity, I think this is the 2nd time you've used "specie" recently. If you mean "type of", I think you use "species". Specie is coin.

I could be wrong of course. It's that damn Trump.

Posted by: pep at September 29, 2017 01:09 PM (5GcKk)

++++

I don't think Ace was using it as in a species of animal, but rather as the 2nd definition below.

Phrases

in specie

1 In coin.

2 Law
In the real, precise, or actual form specified.
'the plaintiff could not be sure of recovering his goods in specie'

Origin

Mid 16th century: from Latin, ablative of species 'form, kind', in the phrase in specie 'in the actual form'.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/us/specie

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 29, 2017 01:22 PM (pvjTE)

146 A measure of Trump's success includes the lunacy that he drives his enemies to.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 29, 2017 01:22 PM (oVJmc)

147 I didn't think Rich Lowery had it in him.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:22 PM (XFue2)

148 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 01:18 PM (iVOAv)

Meant "Obama" working, not praying for the downfall of their successor. i could be wrong but I don't think Obama is doing much praying.e

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 01:22 PM (iVOAv)

149 125
so a demo that regularly uses the mofo epithet gets butthurt because POTUS said the SOB word. Got it.

Pearls...clutched.

Posted by: NFL special snowflakes at September 29, 2017 01:22 PM (LAe3v)

150 What universe are we in where a president criticizing disrespect of the
national anthem in one of the most popular/widely viewed entertainment
arenas is interpreted as some 8-dimensional political chess?
***
I remember when the even the most stuffy of establishment Republicans - like Bush 41 -wanted to throw people in jail for flag desecration...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 29, 2017 01:23 PM (eSx+E)

151 >>The Morons have adopted it as a Meme now so it will last forever.

Mel Gibson also deployed the "sugartits" when ranting at a female cop during his infamous DUI.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2017 01:23 PM (W+vEI)

152 >>>(Nordlinger might as well carry around a mattress, saying "Trump raped me on this.")

LOL. And then he'd write some of his musings about George Gershwin and NYC's best spatteries. (A spattery is where one buys spats.)

Posted by: ace at September 29, 2017 01:23 PM (8rNrN)

153 FRIDAY FREEBIE

thanks to Gnu and insty for this, zombie novel Resurrection is free
and if you scroll down the privateer fantasy is still free today

link in nic

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at September 29, 2017 01:23 PM (hMwEB)

154 142 Glenn Beck is probably the most satisfying victim of the Nevertrumper Suicide Cult. Both of his websites at an all time low for viewership...as well as sliding to number 5 for national radio hosts...ha, ha, ha...
Posted by: Lord Alfred Hayes

number 5?

that's generous.

maybe the #5 radio show in Butt-Fuck North Dakota

Posted by: Rick in SK at September 29, 2017 01:23 PM (FZYNt)

155 If you hadn't'd said anything, I'd've kept making that error.

Posted by: ace at September 29, 2017 01:22 PM (8rNrN)

--

This is why I keep coming back here.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 29, 2017 01:23 PM (rjrh3)

156 The Sandbox Wars between these self-important people never cease to amuse me.

Posted by: tu3031 at September 29, 2017 01:23 PM (O5Q3r)

157 I wish FBN would get rid of Charlie Gasparino. He is annoying AF.

So I turned on Kirk....

Posted by: Tami at September 29, 2017 01:23 PM (Enq6K)

158 anti-nationalism by liberals is totally not cultural marxism designed to weaken America...but is instead the only logical lesson learned from WWII where two communist countries aligned with another one, temporarily, to take over the world (plus whatever japan was).

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 29, 2017 01:24 PM (XhN8Z)

159 Glenn Beck . . .

Posted by: Lord Alfred Hayes at September 29, 2017 01:21 PM (7DG+y)

That Trump campaign stop where Trump upstaged him was absolutely gold.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 29, 2017 01:24 PM (tbOMB)

160 Posted by: West at September 29, 2017 01:22 PM (1Rgee)

Thanks. Yes, I've noticed that which does seems a little odd since I'm sure many of the men here wouldn't want the males that they loathe to blow them. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 01:24 PM (iVOAv)

161 118 In Goldbergs case Trump insulted his mother.Personal grudge.
Posted by: steevy at September 29, 2017 01:19 PM (rmVvL)

I get that. But virtually all the Democrats who hate Trump did more than insult his mother.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 29, 2017 01:24 PM (7uYFy)

162 I wanted to like Hot Air when it first began publishing, but I never understood the point of it.

The writers were mostly smug, shallow and predictable and the comment section was a total bore.

Posted by: Warden at September 29, 2017 01:24 PM (MZ8Zz)

163 I didn't think Rich Lowery had it in him.
***
I would presume some of the old Republican talking heads weren't willing to sell their souls for whatever Soros and co pay. Apparently we've found one.

Anyone have a plot for NR's Alexa ratings over the last 10 years or so?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 29, 2017 01:24 PM (eSx+E)

164 I used to like Nordlinger and Goldberg and even Podhoretz .Oh well.

Posted by: steevy at September 29, 2017 01:25 PM (rmVvL)

165 Did you miss the Beyonce Black Panther song debuting at the 2016 Super Bowl halftime show?!? Performance complete with Beyonce and back-up dancers doing the black power fist.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2017 01:21 PM (W+vEI)

The NFL has been giving a lot of its fans the middle finger for a while. What Trump did was bring the whole thing to a boil. I'd really like to see that lefty bastard Goddell run out of town on a rail. (I'd like to see worse but will keep it to myself)

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 29, 2017 01:25 PM (493sH)

166 >>Mel Gibson also deployed the "sugartits" when ranting at a female cop during his infamous DUI.

Quite possibly the best word in the entire world.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 29, 2017 01:25 PM (/tuJf)

167 aaargh, you're right. I thought I was being so erudite by using specie correctly, and yet, by avoiding the obvious word species, I was using specie incorrectly.

Thanks. If you hadn't'd said anything, I'd've kept making that error.

Posted by: ace at September 29, 2017 01:22 PM (8rNrN)

Layers and layers of fact checkers.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at September 29, 2017 01:25 PM (T71PA)

168 (Nordlinger might as well carry around a mattress, saying "Trump raped me on this.")

******

wow. that's pretty spot on.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 29, 2017 01:25 PM (XhN8Z)

169 No secret that I personally don't like Trump one bit and never have but I have no problem supporting him when he's right and pushing issues that are good for America. It's beyond selfish to do otherwise. So far he's been mostly dead on in that aspect.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 29, 2017 01:25 PM (N7KlP)

170 I know a person or two who probably would jump off the bridge, their TDS is so strong.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2017 01:25 PM (NWiLs)

171 Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2017 01:23 PM (W+vEI)

Hopefully he's gotten his anger and alcohol issues under control because he's a talented actor and director.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 01:25 PM (iVOAv)

172 Sporkatus wrote:

It's so very weird

Yeah, must be something in the D.C. air -- swamp gas, maybe.

In "The White House Mess" Christopher Buckley pretty much predicted a lot of the Obama administration shenanigans, yet Christopher supported Obama when the time came.

Couldn't see the very omens he wrote about...

Posted by: Sweet Lou at September 29, 2017 01:25 PM (4DuI9)

173 was that porn or art?

Posted by: Rick in SK at September 29, 2017 01:15 PM (FZYNt)

Must have been art. She wasn't hot enough for it to be porn.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 29, 2017 01:25 PM (O848g)

174 >>>I don't think Ace was using it as in a species of animal, but rather as the 2nd definition below.

Phrases

in specie

1 In coin.

2 Law
In the real, precise, or actual form specified.
'the plaintiff could not be sure of recovering his goods in specie'

...

no, I was wrong. That definiton 2 is basically the same as definition 1. Accepting payment "in specie" means getting paid in the exact form specified. Like, if I say want to be paid in cattle (which wasn't unusual, really, in the past) rather than money.

Specie and species are obviously very closely related -- both have to do with specific forms -- but species is what I meant, given that species means "a specific form of a larger taxonomical grouping."

Posted by: ace at September 29, 2017 01:25 PM (8rNrN)

175 142 Glenn Beck is probably the most satisfying victim of the Nevertrumper Suicide Cult. Both of his websites at an all time low for viewership...as well as sliding to number 5 for national radio hosts...ha, ha, ha...
Posted by: Lord Alfred Hayes at September 29, 2017 01:21 PM (7DG+y)

Changed the format of his show 3 times in the past year, just did a mass firing of over 100 staffers, is being sued by his former business advisor...

And then there was the "Look at my awesome gay muslim friend!" virtue signaling...

Posted by: Hikaru at September 29, 2017 01:26 PM (XMDuf)

176 Here is the link to Justin Timberlake's minimalist masterpiece:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gOHvDP_vCs

Posted by: Jaws at September 29, 2017 01:26 PM (/qEW2)

177 There. Is. Nothing. Wrong. With. Split. Infinitives. [Pulls out Claymore] En garde!
Posted by: joncelli, predenounced for your pleasure at September 29, 2017 01:18 PM

** grasps M-57 firing device **

Posted by: AoSHQ Grammar Umpire at September 29, 2017 01:26 PM (ctuyM)

178 The off-masked never Trumpers would also take a long walk down a short pier.

FYI, Congessional kneeler Sheila Jackson Lee wouldn't even applaud for Steve Scalise yesterday. I saw in the video that even Cray Cray Aunt Esther applauded for Scalise.

Posted by: mercenary13 at September 29, 2017 01:26 PM (8qqTj)

179 Aaaand...I can't use italics. Sporkatus wrote "It's so very weird"

I added the rest of the comments.

Posted by: Sweet Lou at September 29, 2017 01:26 PM (4DuI9)

180 and NYC's best spatteries.
===

Sounds like one of those "Adult Love Shack" places.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 01:26 PM (2wRtc)

181 "I know Jonah Goldberg doesn't care for Trump--and neither does Podhoretz. I'm staying away fro the Jewish or Neo-Con angle, but both are New Yorkers and I wonder if Trump's real estate or business dealings in New York City have something to do with why he makes them lose their shit."

I'm roughly the same age as Jonah and also grew up in NY. Trump has been kind of an obnoxious figure in NY for nearly 40 years so I get that aspect of it. I also don't put Jonah in the same camp as French and Nordlinger. He is wrong on the NFL issue, but he also gives credit to Trump when it is due. French and Nordlinger OTOH have gone full Rick Wilson.

Posted by: Benji Carver at September 29, 2017 01:27 PM (OD2ni)

182 remember, the NFL, the jocks, and their idiot sportswriter enablers were led to believe that Trump's "SOB" comment was so over the top that it would require the NFL to act like one of their players' battered wives and hold hands and reflect in silence over the anguish Trump caused with his obscene anti-player rant.

Of course, the NFL et al. played this correctly, having captured America's zeitgeist.

/sarc/

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 29, 2017 01:27 PM (XhN8Z)

183 111 Oh, and may Obama's evil plans implode.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 01:16 PM (2zIj5)

I pray for that and the implosion of the deep state by name-those of it know of anyway- everyday-as well as their conversion , of course, because will e I can understand not liking your successor but to pray for their downfall-just evil.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 01:18 PM (iVOAv)

We are thankful for those who are praying about all this. Battles are fought on numerous fronts. IMO, supernatural & natural are both needed. We thank you bigly.

Posted by: Sane individuals everywhere at September 29, 2017 01:27 PM (2zIj5)

184 174. The HQ. Come for the content, stay for the lessons in Common Law terms of art.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 29, 2017 01:27 PM (Eq19I)

185 >>I'd really like to see that lefty bastard Goddell run out of town on a rail. (I'd like to see worse but will keep it to myself)

Amen!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2017 01:27 PM (W+vEI)

186 Glenn Beck is probably the most satisfying victim of the Nevertrumper Suicide Cult. Both of his websites at an all time low for viewership...as well as sliding to number 5 for national radio hosts...ha, ha, ha...
Posted by: Lord Alfred Hayes

_______

I'd love a roundup of how NeverTrump outlets are doing now. before and after 2016.

It really is astonishing how few of once "big names" are able to have a rational view of Trump. Basically all of "Conservative Inc." is anti Trump.

Posted by: Maritime at September 29, 2017 01:27 PM (lKmt3)

187 151 Mel Gibson also deployed the "sugartits" when ranting at a female cop during his infamous DUI.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2017 01:23 PM (W+vEI)

Sugar Tits is an old Southern phrase. It came from the use of a pacifier substitute of a handful of sugar wrapped up in a handkerchief or other cloth that was used for a baby to suck on.

When a kid was being mouthy or fussy a parent would ask him sarcastically if he wanted a sugar tit to suck on. I don't know how it morphed over to be used for women.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 29, 2017 01:28 PM (mpXpK)

188 Baltimore has a statue of the murderer Ray Lewis.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 01:28 PM (LjR2k)

189 Posted by: MoJoTee at September 29, 2017 01:19 PM (0cipj)

Thank you for your kind words.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer at September 29, 2017 01:28 PM (cvoba)

190 I think of this as also being the NFL's corporate sponsors' HR departments trying to get the normals to bake that cake.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 29, 2017 01:28 PM (XhN8Z)

191 FYI, Congessional kneeler Sheila Jackson Lee wouldn't even applaud for Steve Scalise yesterday.
===

All that symbolism and virtue-signaling is going to cause her to break a hip.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 01:28 PM (2wRtc)

192 The best part of the SOB comment was that Trump was not calling anyone in particular an SOB. Then CK's mom self identified.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 29, 2017 01:28 PM (tbOMB)

193
I was an NR subscriber for 42 years but I dropped it this year and don't miss it. If I have to drop the NFL after 50 years, well, I think I would find it wasn't as important as I had thought.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 29, 2017 01:29 PM (BWL+E)

194 So I guess Ace won't reading Nordlinger's 10 article series about his next trip to Salzburg.

Posted by: Benji Carver at September 29, 2017 01:29 PM (OD2ni)

195
The Cubs beat the Cardinals last night. That knocked the Cardinals out of the playoffs. Last Sunday Cardinals manager Mike Matheny said what Trump said was hurtful and other lefty drivel. Starting on Monday Mike will have a nice long off-season to cry into his pillow over it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 29, 2017 01:29 PM (493sH)

196 yet Christopher supported Obama when the time came.
***
For some of the DC set it is money - because there is a lot of money in supporting the Uniparty. For some of them though it is saving their relationships with their lefty friends.

Prior to Bush 43 the establishment left was ok with political disagreement - as a liberal it was ok to be friends with a conservative.

Starting with Bush 43 though, and way more so with Trump, the left will bounce anyone out of the movement who will associate with Trumpkins. So some of these intellectually weak GOPers are now opposing Trump so that they aren't socially isolated...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 29, 2017 01:29 PM (eSx+E)

197 HotAir was once quite good, and the comments were comparable to here. That was a long, long time ago. Before Capt Ed, who's always been quite mediocre, joined. Not that his addition was a big turning point in itself.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 29, 2017 01:29 PM (NDlpU)

198 If only Trump were a true conservative like George W. Bush or his daddy. Sniff.

Posted by: Jay Nordlinger at September 29, 2017 01:29 PM (jKBec)

199 The writers were mostly smug, shallow and predictable and the comment section was a total bore.
Posted by: Warden at September 29, 2017 01:24 PM

That's what I like about AoSHQ. We team well together. Many commentators bring the cutting, and I bring the paste.

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 29, 2017 01:29 PM (ctuyM)

200 124 102 - Not NR, but Bruce Bartlett just penned sn op/ed against tax cuts.
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 29, 2017 01:19 PM (kwakj)

Makes sense. I read Bartlett's Twitter timeline. His Trump Derangement Syndrome dialed up to 11,

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer at September 29, 2017 01:29 PM (cvoba)

201 186 Glenn Beck is probably the most satisfying victim of the Nevertrumper Suicide Cult. Both of his websites at an all time low for viewership...as well as sliding to number 5 for national radio hosts...ha, ha, ha...
Posted by: Lord Alfred Hayes

_______

I'd love a roundup of how NeverTrump outlets are doing now. before and after 2016.

It really is astonishing how few of once "big names" are able to have a rational view of Trump. Basically all of "Conservative Inc." is anti Trump.

******

the never trump suicide cult. The NTSC?

remember hugh hewlett interviewing one member of the NTSC..."so you'd prefer hillary to nominate Che Guaveria to the supreme court and redefine the 1A and 2A for the next 30 years instead of trump's conservative justices?"

"yes, because pussy grab hurts my soul"

fuck those guyhs.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 29, 2017 01:30 PM (XhN8Z)

202 "I could forgive Mr. ~~Darcy's~~ Trump's pride if only he had not mortified mine."

Posted by: Elizabeth Bennett aka Jonah Goldberg at September 29, 2017 01:30 PM (UnDQI)

203 Baltimore has a statue of the murderer Ray Lewis.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 01:28 PM (LjR2k)

And extra guards have been assigned to protect it.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 29, 2017 01:30 PM (493sH)

204 I'll try again since this idea got Willowed in a previous thread.

States are required to recognize driver's licenses issued by other states because of the Constitution's Article IV Section 1:

"Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts,
Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress
may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records
and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof."

For
the same reason if a State allows concealed carry for anyone at all - then it is
required to accept a concealed carry license issued from any other state.

This simply hasn't been shoved down the Communist states throats yet.

They don't have a legal leg to stand on in behaving otherwise.

Posted by: Clearly at September 29, 2017 01:30 PM (eiLp6)

205 One of my big hopes with Trump is that we wouldn't have to hear from these faggots anymore.

In a perfect world they'd find their bodies in a dumpster with two taps to the back of the head and their bow ties stuffed down their throats.

How in the ever living fuck is the shit show that is NRO still alive? Who in the hell is giving these retards money?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 29, 2017 01:30 PM (4ErVI)

206 Allahpundit started going downhill when he sold the site to Michelle Malkin and became, basically, her employee. And that was way before Trump.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Culture Producer at September 29, 2017 01:16 PM (cvoba)

Isnt Malkin beholden to Salem Media?
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:20 PM (XFue2)

Yes. That was when Allahpundit became a "corporate conservative."

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer at September 29, 2017 01:30 PM (cvoba)

207 I'd been an NR subscriber since college, 40 years ago. Cancelled them last year.

Posted by: LGoPs at September 29, 2017 01:30 PM (vFUiw)

208 on the ONT is posted the Anheuser Busch phone number where they ask customer feedback about NFL controversy.

Posted by: kallisto at September 29, 2017 01:30 PM (7l5V0)

209 Huzzah for Ace! Short and sweet.

Posted by: mrp at September 29, 2017 01:31 PM (Pqytn)

210 123 >>Hot Air went to crap in a determined way when poppin' fresh opened his pie hole there

My only quibble with this is that it was already pretty crappy. But the Captain Ed is pretty tedious.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 29, 2017 01:19 PM (/tuJf)
Any place that closes the comments is garbage.

Malkin Started HotAir and Hired Allahpundit.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 29, 2017 01:31 PM (dKiJG)

211 >>Sugar Tits is an old Southern phrase. It came from the use of a pacifier
substitute of a handful of sugar wrapped up in a handkerchief or other
cloth that was used for a baby to suck on. When a kid was being mouthy or fussy a parent would ask him sarcastically if he wanted a sugar tit to suck on.

Heh, I did not know that, Vic!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2017 01:31 PM (W+vEI)

212 Hopefully he's gotten his anger and alcohol issues under control because he's a talented actor and director.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

You can't deny the muse her due

Posted by: Jean at September 29, 2017 01:31 PM (9TU00)

213 192. Reminds me of when my mother, in a fit of pique, callwd me a son of a bitch.

There was a pause. I smirked. I swear, the lady was laughing so hard she was crying. She still slapped the hell outta me, but we still laugh about it to this day.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 29, 2017 01:31 PM (Eq19I)

214 "Oh, hes said "son of a bitches. . "

Stand in almost any fast food counter line and you'll hear for worse from many people, young and old, alike.

We have the leader of the Cali D's leading his chorus in "F__K Trump." We have Gillibrandt from NY saying "If we're not helping people, we should go the F _ _K home."

Kathy Grinnin on New Year's Eve and prance around without a top, Brook Baldwin giggle when Griffin says "nipple" and Griffin simulating going down on Cooper Anderson.

Listen to basically any album of hip-hop/rap (the uncut/studio version) and you'll hear much worse.

And yet, when the president uses a derisive term to label - accurately in many people's minds - the collective lame media, NFL, Hollywood, etc., wets their pants.

They're all pussies. This will be a long, hard battle. But they're pussies. Hang in there. It's just a matter of time.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at September 29, 2017 01:31 PM (bB4HN)

215 Until Trump came along, no public figure would dared to have spoken out against these mindless NFL protest-theatre actions. It used to drive me crazy, watching the "Emperor wears no clothes" moments go by one after the other, with McVain often leading the GOPe charge on honoring stupidity.

So now we have Trump. And thankfully too, since all he had to do was issue a couple of tweets and the NFL is suddenly in full damage control mode.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 29, 2017 01:31 PM (ylUqT)

216 210 123 >>Hot Air went to crap in a determined way when poppin' fresh opened his pie hole there

My only quibble with this is that it was already pretty crappy. But the Captain Ed is pretty tedious.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 29, 2017 01:19 PM (/tuJf)
Any place that closes the comments is garbage.

Malkin Started HotAir and Hired Allahpundit.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 29, 2017 01:31 PM (dKiJG)

Then she sold it and it started going down the drain right quick.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2017 01:32 PM (NWiLs)

217 Rich Lowry was an insipid nevertrumper. now he is trying to seem what ? even handed by attacking his fellow travelers ? self promotion, wants to be thought of as some impartial comentator

Posted by: runner at September 29, 2017 01:32 PM (QC/4S)

218 Had 30 plus years with NRO and canceled when they went full retard over Trump - was a great magazine at one time much like the WSJ was a greta paper. The death of long form writing is troubling to me though.

Posted by: rammajamma at September 29, 2017 01:32 PM (AjNMO)

219 Allahpundit started going downhill when he sold the site to Michelle Malkin and became, basically, her employee. And that was way before Trump.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Culture Producer at September 29, 2017 01:16 PM (cvoba)

Isnt Malkin beholden to Salem Media?
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:20 PM (XFue2)

Yes. That was when Allahpundit became a "corporate conservative."
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer

Lucky for Ace all of our foul language and racism kept him from getting the big check.

Posted by: Jean at September 29, 2017 01:32 PM (9TU00)

220 I'm thinking the cops should pull out of the neighborhoods where these sports stadiums are built. Let the thugs and crackheads have them.

Posted by: Fritz at September 29, 2017 01:33 PM (imd6s)

221 The other problem with the protests is that they are based on a lie. The lie that police target blacks and kill them.

10 killed in Chicago last weekend. That's one of the lower weekend numbers. Where is Black Lies Matter? Silent.

Oh, and this:

Dallas Police Chief has a solution for NFL players: "We're hiring. Get off the protest line and put an application in and we'll put you in your neighborhood and we will help you resolve some of the problems your protesting about." - Dallas Police Chief David Brown

Posted by: Meremortal merely looking at September 29, 2017 01:33 PM (3myMJ)

222 For the same reason if a State allows concealed carry for anyone at all - then it is required to accept a concealed carry license issued from any other state. This simply hasn't been shoved down the Communist states throats yet.
They don't have a legal leg to stand on in behaving otherwise.

Art IV, Section 1 - Been saying that since 1998.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 29, 2017 01:33 PM (XMGl9)

223 Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 29, 2017 01:20 PM (uBKPR)

I'm not what you call a fan but Suit & Tie is my ringtone. I just like the song.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 29, 2017 01:33 PM (N7KlP)

224 The best part of the SOB comment was that Trump was not calling anyone in particular an SOB. Then CK's mom self identified.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 29, 2017 01:28 PM (tbOMB)
====================

Of course she did. Rumor has it that she nearly broke an ankle racing for the Victimhood Trophy.

Posted by: mrp at September 29, 2017 01:33 PM (Pqytn)

225 As for tax cuts I must admit I am somewhat ambivalent.

We aren't cutting spending, so we are just continuing to borrow money. But apparently actually cutting spending, ever, is impossible so....let it burn.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 29, 2017 01:33 PM (eSx+E)

226 I'm the most casual sport fan, I take in very little, but it does amaze me how "liberal" all of sports has become.. From the sports writers, to the commentators, owners, etc despite the fact that when you actually go to a game, it's probably the same people you would find at a Trump rally.

My only theory is just that sports=media, and just like Hollywood or newspapers, everyone involved is left-wing so they do everything they can to push that narrative down people's throats, even when the actual game has ZERO to do with politics.

Posted by: Maritime at September 29, 2017 01:33 PM (lKmt3)

227 "Not NR, but Bruce Bartlett just penned sn op/ed against tax cuts.

Makes sense. I read Bartlett's Twitter timeline. His Trump Derangement Syndrome dialed up to 11,
Posted by: OregonMuse,"

That deranged dinosaur has been supporting Dems for 20 years. But the media will still trot him out in 2020 and scream "Even this former Reagan official will vote for the Dems"

Posted by: Benji Carver at September 29, 2017 01:33 PM (OD2ni)

228 Like this little cock-weasel Odell Beckham on the Giants. I could give two shits about him "peeing" in the Philly end-zone but when he found himself in hot water, he decided to change his original story to some sort of condemnation of Trump. THAT ticked me off.

Big phony.

Big Asshole.

Big Loser.

Trump is the impetus for all these spineless dupes suffering and woe. Like all good narcissist , they need to look in the mirror.

Posted by: dananjcon at September 29, 2017 01:33 PM (WLK0w)

229 Then there was my aunt. Went to Vassar. MD.

"Dip the pacifier in some bourbon."

Posted by: JAS at September 29, 2017 01:33 PM (UnDQI)

230 She still slapped the hell outta me, but we still laugh about it to this day.

==

good times !

Posted by: runner at September 29, 2017 01:33 PM (QC/4S)

231 If they stop this nonsense and stand for the anthem, Trump Wins.
If they persist in kneeling, or double down on the hate,
They Lose.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 29, 2017 01:00 PM (7uYFy)
_________________

Some player (I've already forgotten who) announced today that he would kneel for part of the anthem, and stand for part of it, so he could show respect to everybody. LOL.

Despite the fact that the kneeling, refusing to exit the locker room, linking arms, etc., bullshit is now supposed to be a slap at Trump, the fact is that all this nonsense got started because a third-rate quarterback, Colon Krapperdick, wanted to protest a non-existent war on innocent blacks by racist white cops.

IOW, it all started because of a media-generated lie that is demonstrably false. So it seems appropriate that all these dummies are now in the position of bobbing up and down during the anthem like demented bobble-head dolls, trying to make everybody happy. It would be a lot simpler just to admit that Colon is an idiot, and that his protest was based on utter bullshit.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 29, 2017 01:34 PM (BXf9o)

232 Nice post to start a nice weekend. Thanks Ace.

I used to really enjoy reading allah. I haven't seen anything of his worth even skimming lately. Mostly poll driven bs is all he does now anyway.

I called Ed Morrissey 'ol Next Hill. I never could find a single conservative issue he would promote or defend. It was always how to concede the least to accommodate the latest progressive endeavor.

Posted by: DanMan at September 29, 2017 01:34 PM (XTiHL)

233 219 Allahpundit started going downhill when he sold the site to Michelle Malkin and became, basically, her employee. And that was way before Trump.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Culture Producer at September 29, 2017 01:16 PM (cvoba)

Isnt Malkin beholden to Salem Media?
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:20 PM (XFue2)

Yes. That was when Allahpundit became a "corporate conservative."
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer

Lucky for Ace all of our foul language and racism kept him from getting the big check.
Posted by: Jean at September 29, 2017 01:32 PM (9TU00)

Well, lucky for us, anyway. And this might be a good time to hit the tip jar so ace can have peanut butter crackers next week for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Posted by: joncelli, predenounced for your pleasure at September 29, 2017 01:34 PM (RD7QR)

234 Posted by: Sane individuals everywhere at September 29, 2017 01:27 PM (2zIj5)

It's really kind of you to thank people, but people I know who are prayer warriors like to pray and if they didn't have a regular time for it would miss it. It's kind of like regular exercise in that way. Exercise raises your endorphins of something and prayer gets you in contact with the energy of God. I am just sorry that people need to pray about people actively trying o take down a government for their own ends-certainly not for the people in America. Trump wasn't my first choice, but I voted for him, i think he's not a bad man and that he genuinely wants to make America great again. Obama is that insecure and warped that he doesn't want the future President to succeed lest he be compared Unfavorably to Trump? And yes, i agree with wars are fought on many levels.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 01:34 PM (iVOAv)

235 228 The NFL would have sanctioned his pissing celebration if he put a picture of Trump down first.

Posted by: steevy at September 29, 2017 01:34 PM (rmVvL)

236 According to the website NFLarrest.com which does just what it sounds like, tracks the arrests of NFL players, the average time between NFL player arrests is 7 days and the longest time between arrests is 65 days. 7 freaking days.

Do these idiots really want to open up this can of worms about police brutality and subject themselves to this type of scrutiny because I don't think it's gonna work out the way they think it will.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 29, 2017 01:35 PM (/tuJf)

237 198 If only Trump were a true conservative like George W. Bush or his daddy. Sniff.
Posted by: Jay Nordlinger

*******

right?

remember, part of this true conservative stuff is being a lion overseas and a pussyfairy here.

"oh the teacher's unions want to teach the kids that America is the most evil place on earth and Christianity is a gutter religion? Well, we can't fight them, must maintain political clout...meanwhile let's go invade Panama"

Don't get me wrong, I love invading Panama, et al. I just didn't realize the we'd then be forced to take in the entire continent of South America, the Middle East, and Africa after we tried to correct their wayward ways.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 29, 2017 01:35 PM (XhN8Z)

238 230. Yep. A traditional Kekistani upbringing.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 29, 2017 01:35 PM (Eq19I)

239 Dallas Police Chief has a solution for NFL players: "We're hiring. Get off the protest line and put an application in and we'll put you in your neighborhood and we will help you resolve some of the problems your protesting about." - Dallas Police Chief David Brown

Posted by: Meremortal merely looking at September 29, 2017 01:33 PM (3myMJ)

That should be sent to every NFL kneeler. And then someone should read it to the illiterates.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 29, 2017 01:35 PM (493sH)

240 The pearl-clutching over "SOB" continues to astonish.

Donald Trump, from Queens not Brooklyn (right?), lifelong splash-maker and loudmouth marketer, criticizing high-profile rich entertainers who are dissing the national anthem on TV, using rough language - THIS is a shock or mystery or scandal?

WTFF?

Then again, it's a country so unserious that the idiotic, cartoonish concept of "Russian interference" in our elections gets a special counsel at the DOJ.

But still.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 29, 2017 01:35 PM (NDlpU)

241 NATIONAL COFFEE DAY

Is TODAY...as you know.

Places are giving FREE coffee. Link tells where.

http://tinyurl.com/y7keqpor

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 01:35 PM (2zIj5)

242 206 Allahpundit started going downhill when he sold the site to Michelle Malkin and became, basically, her employee. And that was way before Trump.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Culture Producer at September 29, 2017 01:16 PM (cvoba)

Isnt Malkin beholden to Salem Media?
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:20 PM (XFue2)

Yes. That was when Allahpundit became a "corporate conservative."
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer at September 29, 2017 01:30 PM (cvoba)

Thanks for the reply. Ive been asking this question for like a year.

Was Salem media Malkin's original backer when she first got started? Somebody had to have backed her at the beginning of her career.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:35 PM (XFue2)

243 Specie and species are obviously very closely related -- both have to do with specific forms -- but species is what I meant, given that species means "a specific form of a larger taxonomical grouping."
Posted by: ace at September 29, 2017 01:25 PM (8rNrN)

Right. I was taken the woodshed about this a couple of weeks ago by some moron who knew more than I did about specie/species.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer at September 29, 2017 01:36 PM (cvoba)

244 215 Until Trump came along, no public figure would dared to have spoken out against these mindless NFL protest-theatre actions. It used to drive me crazy, watching the "Emperor wears no clothes" moments go by one after the other, with McVain often leading the GOPe charge on honoring stupidity.

So now we have Trump. And thankfully too, since all he had to do was issue a couple of tweets and the NFL is suddenly in full damage control mode.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at
September 29, 2017 01:31 PM (ylUqT)

I have visions of him turning to Kelly Anne Conway and saying "Watch this....", as he types his tweets.

Posted by: Tami at September 29, 2017 01:36 PM (Enq6K)

245 Have you been trapped in a cabin without mode of communication except to aos?

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 29, 2017 01:20 PM (N7KlP)

More or less. I don't have TV at home, and I sure as Hell don't listen to Top 40 radio, so my only exposure to turds like the Britneys and the Justins is when I am in a public place, and their shit is played on the sound system or jukebox. And if it's unlistenable shit, I'm not going to ask, "who was that?", am I?

My home is 60 miles from Nickelback's home town, and I only ever heard their shit on the jukebox in my local bar, and thankfully, they have fallen into obscurity there, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 29, 2017 01:36 PM (O848g)

246 The only explanation for NRO's continued existence is that they're taking money from some deep pocket shitlib so they can continue the cucking.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 29, 2017 01:36 PM (4ErVI)

247 NRO went retard long ago. Like when Mark Levin, who I'm not a huge fan of, actually made a compelling argument they were a bunch of dishonest prissy assholes left.

Now their Schtick is to go full retard on account of what they now say passes for "principle". Which is basically the opposite of what Trump says on any given day.

Trump could say "save the children" and NRO would write a long hand wringing piece that basically concludes- "well should we really? After all it is TRUMP saying save the children. "

You have to believe that most of voting America is watching this and shaking their head at the mass delusion. Me? I'm just hoping this is Jonestown and we haven't gotten to the Kool-Aid part yet.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 29, 2017 01:36 PM (6fmef)

248 Yep. A traditional Kekistani upbringing.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine

the best kind !

Posted by: runner at September 29, 2017 01:36 PM (QC/4S)

249 Every single one of these a-holes can bite me. "Reagan was the shining example of conservatism"? they say? O RLY? Every last one of these people had political mentors and to a person every single one of those mentors HATED Reagan. All of them. "Why can't he be as classy as George Bush?" they would whine at their dinner parties. "Now Bush and Ford, THAT'S who should be leading this fine party of ours!"

Never once in a million years will the elites ever, ever get it that they are wrong. It's simply a notion that can't occur to them because they believe with the conviction of the devout that they are right, and it's the country around them that's wrong. And what has happened throughout history when the circumstances are thus?

These fools will continue to bash Trump right to and through the event where the economy manages to grow at 5% or higher. Trump posts a number like that anywhere during his tenure, and the public is going to burn DC to the ground to get these fools out of there.

This movement isn't about Trump, that's true. But he's latched onto it and he's savvy enough to know how to ride a populist wave, and a solid enough businessman to know how to get things moving again. Also, he loves this country which is a far cry from the rest of DC which, at best, tolerates it.

Posted by: sans_sheriff at September 29, 2017 01:36 PM (CECAj)

250 Posted by: Meremortal merely looking at September 29, 2017 01:33 PM (3myMJ)

Wouldn't do it. They'd make much less money.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 01:37 PM (iVOAv)

251 "Corporate Conservative" Damn if that don't hit the nail right on the head. This needs to be repeated over and over again.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:37 PM (XFue2)

252 154 142 Glenn Beck is probably the most satisfying victim of the Nevertrumper Suicide Cult. Both of his websites at an all time low for viewership...as well as sliding to number 5 for national radio hosts...ha, ha, ha...
Posted by: Lord Alfred Hayes

number 5?

that's generous.

maybe the #5 radio show in Butt-Fuck North Dakota

Posted by: Rick in SK at September 29, 2017 01:23 PM (FZYNt)

I loved that show, it was so damn funny and then when he had hemorrhoid surgery he got all crazy, I really think it was the Drugs they gave him and he went back on the wagon.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 29, 2017 01:37 PM (dKiJG)

253 Was Salem media Malkin's original backer when she first got started?
Somebody had to have backed her at the beginning of her career.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:35 PM (XFue2)

No, I don't think Salem was her original backer, but I don't know who was.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer at September 29, 2017 01:37 PM (cvoba)

254 Who knew that a sugar tit was an actual thing?

You won't learn shit like that over at the Hot Air comment section

Posted by: Warden at September 29, 2017 01:38 PM (MZ8Zz)

255 Right. I was taken the woodshed about this a couple of weeks ago by some moron who knew more than I did about specie/species.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer at September 29, 2017 01:36 PM (cvoba)

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Can you be more speciefic?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 29, 2017 01:38 PM (UUvSq)

256 As for tax cuts I must admit I am somewhat ambivalent.

We aren't cutting spending, so we are just continuing to borrow money. But apparently actually cutting spending, ever, is impossible so....let it burn.
Posted by: 18-1

________

We'll never cut spending until we have some sort of fiscal crisis, so the only way to shrink government is just give the pigs less slop. Eventually they will starve.

Plus, after I pay all federal and state taxes, it's right around 45% of what I make. For some I know it's a lot less, but what I pay in taxes is simply immoral.

Posted by: Maritime at September 29, 2017 01:38 PM (lKmt3)

257 242 Was Salem media Malkin's original backer when she first got started? Somebody had to have backed her at the beginning of her career.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:35 PM (XFue2)

No.

But things got weird.

After she sold Hot Air to Salem, she started Twitchy.

And a little over a year later, she sold that to Salem, too.

So I have no idea what the relationship between her and Salem actually is.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 29, 2017 01:38 PM (XMDuf)

258 >>My only theory is just that sports=media, and just like Hollywood or newspapers, everyone involved is left-wing so they do everything they can to push that narrative down people's throats, even when the actual game has ZERO to do with politics.

I think that's part of it. But I also think that sports are becoming more and more populated with minorities and minorities overwhelmingly skew left.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 29, 2017 01:38 PM (/tuJf)

259 All that symbolism and virtue-signaling is going to cause her to break a hip.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 01:28 PM (2wRtc)
*********************************

She's already beat cancer. She told it if it didn't go away she would hire it as one of her staff.

Posted by: gNewt at September 29, 2017 01:38 PM (ylXIx)

260 I have visions of him turning to Kelly Anne Conway and saying "Watch this....", as he types his tweets.

Posted by: Tami at September 29, 2017 01:36 PM (Enq6K)

"Hold my beer"*"

**non-alcoholic beer, of course.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersanda at the present time) at September 29, 2017 01:39 PM (ZM2xo)

261 160 Posted by: West at September 29, 2017 01:22 PM (1Rgee)

Thanks. Yes, I've noticed that which does seems a little odd since I'm sure many of the men here wouldn't want the males that they loathe to blow them. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 01:24 PM (iVOAv)

Well, I wouldn't go that far.

but that's because it is not about sex, but dominance.

Posted by: West at September 29, 2017 01:39 PM (1Rgee)

262 Is there a National Covfefe Day?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 01:39 PM (LjR2k)

263 251 "Corporate Conservative" Damn if that don't hit the nail right on the head. This needs to be repeated over and over again.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:37 PM (XFue2)

Right. That's when you can't say certain true things that a conservative might say because the corporate guys who sign your paycheck might not like it.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer at September 29, 2017 01:39 PM (cvoba)

264 BTW, saw in the old thread about the NFL that their ad revenue is down $200M. Very nice, fuck them sideways.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 29, 2017 01:39 PM (XhN8Z)

265
Justin Timberlake or Justin Beeper?
Interchangeable nonentities, they are. I cannot think of one song by
either that I know the name of. I mean, I have probably heard their shit, because pop music is unavoidable, but all I heard was noise.

Timberlake's only real claim to fame is having exposed Janet
Jackson's "saggy and veiny" (Thanks, Mark Steyn.) boob on some prior
Super Bowl show. That's it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 29, 2017 01:14 PM
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hahaha. It's an argument I have with people all the time.

They will name a song from some pop artist and say "you know that song."

I will say "no, I don't"

Because I only listen to classic rock and bands with dead people in them.

They will then argue with me and insist I know the song. I don't unless it's been on a tv commercial.

/which is how I found out Rascall Flatts does that "Life is a Highway " song.

Posted by: shibumi at September 29, 2017 01:39 PM (aT+Bx)

266 I had heard the expression "Sugar Tits" before what;s his name used it, but that is sure a alcoholic rage induced stupidity-using it on a woman police officer

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 01:39 PM (iVOAv)

267 I have visions of him turning to Kelly Anne Conway and saying "Watch this....", as he types his tweets.

Posted by: Tami at September 29, 2017 01:36 PM (Enq6K)
-------------------------------------------

Jay Nordlinger- do not jump off that bridge!

Posted by: Donald Trump Cleans Out National Review at September 29, 2017 01:39 PM (ylUqT)

268 >>Until Trump came along, no public figure would dared to have spoken out against these mindless NFL protest-theatre actions.

About *any* of the Left's moves to destroy all cultural institutions.
He fights, and fights to win!! Wonder when/if they'll ever wake up to that.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2017 01:40 PM (W+vEI)

269 Well hell

http://www. wsbtv.com/news/local/polk-county-officer-shot-and-killed-another-injured-authorities-say/616756573

remove the space before wsbtv

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at September 29, 2017 01:40 PM (hS07U)

270 252 I loved that show, it was so damn funny and then when he had hemorrhoid surgery he got all crazy, I really think it was the Drugs they gave him and he went back on the wagon.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 29, 2017 01:37 PM (dKiJG)

Gloatfest 2010 was great.

But as soon as he got kicked off Fox, he went off the rails. He became obsessed with starting a Media Empire. And right around the time he realized no Cable Company would put his media project on their service (and Al Gore sold HIS channel to Al-Jazeera for less money than Beck offered him), he started tacking lefty in the hopes of Cable Companies relenting.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 29, 2017 01:40 PM (XMDuf)

271 Giant coconut eating rat or Super Squirrel?AtC beware.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/276967/

Posted by: steevy at September 29, 2017 01:40 PM (rmVvL)

272 I truly believe Soros threatened Glenn Becks life and his family's life while he was on Fox News.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:41 PM (XFue2)

273
And thankfully too, since all he had to do was issue a couple of tweets and the NFL is suddenly in full damage control mode.

Please note, it's the NFL and not the White House that's having energency meetings about the spreading PR disaster. Clear win for Trump.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 29, 2017 01:41 PM (BWL+E)

274 265 /which is how I found out Rascall Flatts does that "Life is a Highway " song.
Posted by: shibumi at September 29, 2017 01:39 PM (aT+Bx)

Tom Cochrane?

Posted by: Hikaru at September 29, 2017 01:41 PM (XMDuf)

275 268 >>Until Trump came along, no public figure would dared to have spoken out against these mindless NFL protest-theatre actions.

About *any* of the Left's moves to destroy all cultural institutions.
He fights, and fights to win!! Wonder when/if they'll ever wake up to that.

*****

I mean, how long did the liberal media crow on and on about Dan Quayle knocking single mother murphy brown (memba berries that?)

They still harp on fake plastic turkey Bush and his dad's fascination with UPC scanners.

So, it's good to actually fight back.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 29, 2017 01:41 PM (XhN8Z)

276 We aren't cutting spending, so we are just continuing to borrow money. But apparently actually cutting spending, ever, is impossible so....let it burn.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 29, 2017 01:33 PM (eSx+E)

I disagree. First of all there are no tax cuts. There are tax RATE cuts. Those rate cuts usually result in more revenue to the state or country due to increased economic activity. Kennedy proved it, so did Bush 43.

I can remember my dad telling me he wasn't taking any more work late in the year, circa 1960. He said, "Why would I work to make $1000 only to give $910 of that to the government? He was about to hit the 91% bracket so he just stopped taking work. There really wasn't any more money to be made.

He is a life-long Democrat.

Posted by: Meremortal merely looking at September 29, 2017 01:41 PM (3myMJ)

277 Wa Wa Coffee

Never heard of it.

Is it regional? Is it any good?

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 01:42 PM (2zIj5)

278 He may be going the way of Chuckles. I love my bike seat, Johnson of Little gross footballs

Posted by: It's me donna at September 29, 2017 01:01 PM (O2RFr)

Yeah, and how has that move helped bike boy?

He was begging for $20,000 on GoFundMe and after a few months, has raised about $4000.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersanda at the present time) at September 29, 2017 01:42 PM (ZM2xo)

279
PDT has a long history in sports promotionfootball, golf, boxing and I believe his hotels also hold PBA tournaments so maybe instead of attacking him for his opinion on what's good or bad for sports people in the sports world shouldstart listening to what he's saying

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 29, 2017 01:42 PM (lKyWE)

280 272 I truly believe Soros threatened Glenn Becks life and his family's life while he was on Fox News.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:41 PM (XFue2)

He's said that Roger Ailes was the one who threatened him.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 29, 2017 01:42 PM (XMDuf)

281 I used to be proud to be a man, but I find Trump's toxic masculinity so revolting that I'm considering cutting off my dick just to spite him.

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at September 29, 2017 01:42 PM (/qEW2)

282 I have a hard time enjoying Madame Butterfly at Lincoln Center knowing that this uncouth man is the President.

Posted by: Jay Nordlinger at September 29, 2017 01:43 PM (OD2ni)

283 Well, now I know who to hate for Life Is A Highway.

Thanks, I guess.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 29, 2017 01:43 PM (kwakj)

284 272 I truly believe Soros threatened Glenn Becks life and his family's life while he was on Fox News.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:41 PM (XFue2)

Do you think Beck was hurting the left *that much* back then? So much so that they would threaten his life.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer at September 29, 2017 01:43 PM (cvoba)

285 Allahpundit was one of my favorites reads way back in the day, second only to this place. He was really funny at times, especially the photoshops. How times change. I haven't gone to Hotair in months

Posted by: brak at September 29, 2017 01:43 PM (WjCgM)

286 What is this NRO place and why should I give two shits about anything they publish?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 29, 2017 01:43 PM (i0ykY)

287 265 /which is how I found out Rascall Flatts does that "Life is a Highway " song.
Posted by: shibumi at September 29, 2017 01:39 PM (aT+Bx)

Which is fun the first couple times but now makes me gnash my teeth in irritation.

Posted by: joncelli, predenounced for your pleasure at September 29, 2017 01:44 PM (RD7QR)

288 my only concern is that the gop will seize upon the nfl's bizarre anti-americanism and over play their hand. Not to mention my fear of an anti-nfl backlash. Think of the poor nfl players as they face mean looks from people when they ride on the bus.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 29, 2017 01:44 PM (XhN8Z)

289 >>My only theory is just that sports=media, and just like Hollywood or
newspapers, everyone involved is left-wing so they do everything they
can to push that narrative down people's throats, even when the actual
game has ZERO to do with politics.

Apparently some sportswriter is on a tear to get a black NHL player to join the kneelers. The dude wants no part of it. Just like that reporter obsessed with Taylor Swift refusing to go political. They *want* this fight, they want to politicize everything, get everyone to thump for their cause. It makes their fluffy sports and entertainment writing feel more important - injecting politics.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2017 01:44 PM (W+vEI)

290 He fights, and fights to win!! Wonder when/if they'll ever wake up to that.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2017 01:40 PM (W+vEI)
==================

Oh, they're woke all right. Bill Herndon, Lincoln's junior law partner back in the Springfield days, once asked Lincoln how to win an election. Abe told him that the key was to start an argument that causes a reaction, and then fight the reaction.

Donald Trump has that down pat. He's a Rembrandt of the art.

Posted by: mrp at September 29, 2017 01:44 PM (Pqytn)

291 257 242 Was Salem media Malkin's original backer when she first got started? Somebody had to have backed her at the beginning of her career.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:35 PM (XFue2)

No.

But things got weird.

After she sold Hot Air to Salem, she started Twitchy.

And a little over a year later, she sold that to Salem, too.

So I have no idea what the relationship between her and Salem actually is.
Posted by: Hikaru at September 29, 2017 01:38 PM (XMDuf)

She came out of nowhere prior to hotair. She was all over Fox News in the early 2000's.

When you think about it the whole dang thing is weird.... but not weird from a corporate conservative view point.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:44 PM (XFue2)

292 "He was begging for $20,000 on GoFundMe and after a few months, has raised about $4000."

The hilarity will begin when he gets a 1099 for that income. Cause that's how GoFundMe works. It's income.

Posted by: Meremortal merely looking at September 29, 2017 01:44 PM (3myMJ)

293 I truly believe Soros threatened Glenn Becks life and his family's life while he was on Fox News.

I heard it was a giant coconut-eating rat.

Posted by: Roland THTG at September 29, 2017 01:45 PM (QM5S2)

294 257 242 Was Salem media Malkin's original backer when she first got started? Somebody had to have backed her at the beginning of her career.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:35 PM (XFue2)

No.

But things got weird.

After she sold Hot Air to Salem, she started Twitchy.

And a little over a year later, she sold that to Salem, too.

So I have no idea what the relationship between her and Salem actually is.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 29, 2017 01:38 PM (XMDuf)

So Salem is the Electronic Arts of conservative internet? They buy up popular things and then make money off their popularity and then run it into the ground with their demands for uniformity.

Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2017 01:45 PM (cAnNx)

295 Yeah, and how has that move helped bike boy?

He was begging for $20,000 on GoFundMe and after a few months, has raised about $4000.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersanda at the present time) at September 29, 2017 01:42 PM (ZM2xo

Chuckles is now reduced to begging for handouts? Thank you, Donna and V., you have made my weekend.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer at September 29, 2017 01:45 PM (cvoba)

296 277 Wa Wa Coffee

Never heard of it.

Is it regional? Is it any good?
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 01:42 PM (2zIj5)

Started out in NJ and PA and is now spreading across the country. Pretty good coffee and snacks, good customer service.

Posted by: joncelli, predenounced for your pleasure at September 29, 2017 01:45 PM (RD7QR)

297 nah, the thing is several fold but it boils down to sportswriters trying to overcompensate for writing about fluff using liberal politics to make them feel smrt.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 29, 2017 01:45 PM (XhN8Z)

298 Goldberg and Williamson used to be among my usually visited columnists. Since the election, though, they have become increasingly strident against all-things-Trump, even as they deny that that is exactly what they write. Think we don't notice how they go out of their way to find things to bash?

I'm glad Dr. Sowell got out of the business before TDS became endemic over at NR and Townhall. I'd hate it - just hate it! - if he joined that parade. At least now I can pretend that he would not have.

Kinda wish there was some Moronic version of a 'Like' button for posts such as these.

Does Ace get a click-count if I just refresh the page? Or do I have to close it and re-open it to show traffic?

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at September 29, 2017 01:45 PM (3NjrP)

299 Speaking of rectification of names, one thing the SJWs have succeeded in is the use of 'disrespect' for what the kneelers are doing. They're not. They are dishonoring the flag and anthem. Disrespect is a mealy-mouthed word that seems more like disagreeing about something. Dishonor means I'm going to stand up and draw my sword.

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at September 29, 2017 01:45 PM (Kr0FZ)

300 Please note, it's the NFL and not the White House that's having energency meetings about the spreading PR disaster. Clear win for Trump.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 29, 2017 01:41 PM (BWL+E)

The media are trying to gin up Puerto Rico into another Katrina and it's not getting traction because of the NFL thing.

So savvy deflection on Trump's part?

I think it might be. And thank God for it because if Trump's willing to play this strategy he's going to be referred to as Teflon Trump before he leaves office.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 29, 2017 01:45 PM (4ErVI)

301 Trumpism is always hovering over Middle America, but always landing on the Urban Elites.

Posted by: geoffb at September 29, 2017 01:45 PM (zOpu5)

302 Malkin is a smart business woman, HotAir and Twitchy were both sold and she started both ventures, now she has her own Channel.

I like Ben Shapiro but during the special Election broadcast he didn't look happy and threw cold water on some of the people there, told them to calm down.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 29, 2017 01:45 PM (dKiJG)

303 I had heard the expression "Sugar Tits" before what;s his name used it, but that is sure a alcoholic rage induced stupidity-using it on a woman police officer

Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Hey, easy now, I directed you-know-what.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at September 29, 2017 01:45 PM (/qEW2)

304 289 Apparently some sportswriter is on a tear to get a black NHL player to join the kneelers. The dude wants no part of it. Just like that reporter obsessed with Taylor Swift refusing to go political. They *want* this fight, they want to politicize everything, get everyone to thump for their cause. It makes their fluffy sports and entertainment writing feel more important - injecting politics.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2017 01:44 PM (W+vEI)

Greg Wyshynski is trying to get PK Subban (A Canadian of Jamaican heritage what plays in Nashville) to start protesting.

I guess Joel Ward in San Jose isn't enough.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 29, 2017 01:45 PM (XMDuf)

305 I think that's part of it. But I also think that sports are becoming more and more populated with minorities and minorities overwhelmingly skew left.
Posted by: JackStraw

____________

That's definitely part of it, but I was reading some article yesterday that had added up all the kneeling, and basically 90% of players in the NFL had not participated in the kneeling so far.

I'm sure non-white athletes are like 90%+ Democrat, but I don't think there's nearly the political activism among athletes that there is in the sports media side of things.

Posted by: Maritime at September 29, 2017 01:45 PM (lKmt3)

306 Rich Lowry is the guy who crowed on MeAgain's after the 2nd primary debate that Carly "castrated Trump" isn't he? I didn't think that little GOPe weasel had it in him to stand up to his fellow NeverTrumps like that.

Good for him.

Internet rumor is that Allah pundit is Josh Barro who famously once tweeted that the elites, like himself, actually are better than everyone else. The rumor started after AP wrote on Hot Air that he had tweeted about a subject "last night" but the link went to Barro's tweet.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at September 29, 2017 01:45 PM (lZaEn)

307 Here is the link to Justin Timberlake's minimalist masterpiece:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gOHvDP_vCs

Posted by: Jaws at September 29, 2017 01:26 PM (/qEW2)

Sounds like what one hears in a strip joint. No wonder I am unfamiliar with it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 29, 2017 01:45 PM (O848g)

308 Did Malkin get here real start at Townhall?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 29, 2017 01:45 PM (60v4h)

309 As a lifelong NR reader, it is disappointing to watch Mr. Lowry's descent into extremism.

I salute the courage of Mr. Lowry's colleagues. Mr. Trump's unprincipled, reckless stances on important issues require vigilant conservative opposition, even if it invites attacks from the far-right.

Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at September 29, 2017 01:46 PM (ismre)

310 Well, Ritchie, I'm proud of you.

That's what a man is supposed to do. Speak the truth, even if it might get you fired.

Gotta say, I wouldn't have predicted you would do it. Glad you did. Deadly work.

Posted by: simplemind at September 29, 2017 01:46 PM (3iyLq)

311

How To Be A Conservative Cuck

by David French and Jay Nordlinger

Posted by: Soothie at September 29, 2017 01:46 PM (EzcWp)

312 Posted by: West at September 29, 2017 01:39 PM (1Rgee)

Really? That's interesting. if one was a straight man they wouldn't mind another man they loathe blowing them for the sake of dominance ? because I sure as heck wouldn't want some woman i couldn't stand" blowing" me for the sake of my dominance over her The idea is nauseating actually

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 01:46 PM (iVOAv)

313
NATIONAL COFFEE DAY

Is TODAY...as you know.

Places are giving FREE coffee. Link tells where.

http://tinyurl.com/y7keqpor
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla

Starbucks
Instead of free coffee, Starbucks will replace its menu board with signs detailing the company's ethical sourcing and remind customers that they support farmers by purchasing coffee.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 29, 2017 01:46 PM (IqV8l)

314 >>>Right. I was taken the woodshed about this a couple of weeks ago by some moron who knew more than I did about specie/species.

I just knew specie was a word I'd seen. I knew it meant coin, but it's one of those things where if I see it IN CONTEXT, I go "oh they mean currency," but if I don't have that context clue, I forget the definition.

Anyway, though I usually don't believe this, I got wires crossed in my brain and decided that species must be the plural and specie the singular.

I heard this claimed, but can't prove it right now. So take this with a grain of salt: "Mice" used to be the singular as well as plural for, well, mice. However, people began saying "mouse" due to the similarity to "lice," and the singular of lice being louse.

I think John McWhorter said that in one of his etymology podcasts on Slate.

what i'm seeing on the internet seems to run contrary to that claim, though. I can't access wiktionary right now so I'm not sure on it.

Posted by: ace at September 29, 2017 01:46 PM (8rNrN)

315 Let the UN handle PR.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 01:46 PM (LjR2k)

316
They *want* this fight, they want to politicize everything, get everyone to thump for their cause. It makes their fluffy sports and entertainment writing feel more important - injecting politics.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2017 01:44 PM (W+vEI)

But push back and you're "divisive".

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 29, 2017 01:47 PM (BWL+E)

317 I did watch recent South Park episode & whomever thought it would be SJW/Left sympathetic was totally wrong.

It skewered the whole victim mentality, removing statue, current people responsible for past narrative.

My fav part was the kids who only cared about the holiday change b/c it meant a school vacay day was cancelled. B/c that is totally how kids think. lol Well, me anyway.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 01:47 PM (2zIj5)

318 I truly believe Soros threatened Glenn Becks life and his family's life while he was on Fox News.
===

And the British Space Lizard Monarchists.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 01:47 PM (2wRtc)

319

BUT JAY NORGLINEFER LOVES THE OPERA GODDAMIT!!!!

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Alt-Rightie Esq at September 29, 2017 01:47 PM (b1cjj)

320 265 /which is how I found out Rascall Flatts does that "Life is a Highway " song.
Posted by: shibumi at September 29, 2017 01:39 PM (aT+Bx)

Which is fun the first couple times but now makes me gnash my teeth in irritation.

Posted by: joncelli, predenounced for your pleasure at September 29, 2017 01:44 PM (RD7QR)

Fifth Third Bank used it in their commercials for a long time. Grew to hate that song.

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at September 29, 2017 01:48 PM (Jcg9Q)

321 Sports writers and entertainment writers are insecure they don't get to report on "real" news, so they leap at the chance to make something political and try to get some of that "respected journalist" limelight

Posted by: brak at September 29, 2017 01:48 PM (WjCgM)

322 >>Do you think Beck was hurting the left *that much* back then? So much so that they would threaten his life.

Glenn Beck devoted a full week to dissecting all of Soros' activities, IIRC.
I watched some of it, it was enlightening.

No idea if Beck was threatened after that, but I could definitely see Soros wanting Beck to STFU about all his behind the scenes activities and all his connections.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2017 01:48 PM (W+vEI)

323 I used to fold my panties and place them in the lilac scented top drawer but now that Donald Trump is President I simply keep them bunched-up in the corner on the floor.

**sigh**

Posted by: Jay Nordlinger at September 29, 2017 01:48 PM (WLK0w)

324 Do you think Beck was hurting the left *that much* back then? So much so that they would threaten his life.
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When he was on Fox, he was exposing Soros EVERY DAY.

I can see Soros not liking that.

/but then I have a good imagination, or so I've been told...

Posted by: shibumi at September 29, 2017 01:48 PM (aT+Bx)

325 The media are trying to gin up Puerto Rico into another Katrina and it's not getting traction because of the NFL thing.

So savvy deflection on Trump's part?

I think it might be.

That. And the PR governor is gushing praise all over on how Trump has reacted. Kinda defeats the narrative.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 29, 2017 01:48 PM (XMGl9)

326 So Salem is the Electronic Arts of conservative internet?

Rodale Press.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 29, 2017 01:48 PM (60v4h)

327 Another one who got to me before Trump was David French. But not for being a pussy. He all too often would respond to stories of college professors anonymously talking about the growth of campus totalitarianism with attacks on their manhood. His only idea, ever, was fight-fight-fight, never considering whether a particular fight was worth it, rather than another. That sounds odd in a #NeverTrumper; they usually accuse us of that attitude. (His idea of tactics is to fight as the Romans did at Cannae.)

Then it hit me. French is exactly like those Japanese guys you'd hear about, every few years, when I was young. They'd been hiding out on some Pacific island since 1945.

Posted by: George LeS at September 29, 2017 01:49 PM (+TcCF)

328 osted by: Mel Gibson at September 29, 2017 01:45 PM (/qEW2)

I've never seen"You know wha,t" Mel baby. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 01:49 PM (iVOAv)

329 Trump may be right about any given thing or situation, but these folks simply don't like his *style* and thus, they reflexively start their argument opposite his.

Hell, *I* don't like his style, but I try to set that aside and at least give him the benefit of the doubt. Besides, what in hell am I going to do about it, anyway? I'd much rather have the wrong person do the right thing than the right sort of people doing the wrong thing or nothing - like Congress has been doing the last 8 months.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 29, 2017 01:49 PM (rgxez)

330 271 Giant coconut eating rat or Super Squirrel?AtC beware.
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/276967/

Posted by: steevy at September 29, 2017 01:40 PM (rmVvL)

Aargh. What a crappy photo. There's no familiar object next to the rat so you really can't see how big it really is.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer at September 29, 2017 01:49 PM (cvoba)

331 284 272 I truly believe Soros threatened Glenn Becks life and his family's life while he was on Fox News.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:41 PM (XFue2)

Do you think Beck was hurting the left *that much* back then? So much so that they would threaten his life.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer at September 29, 2017 01:43 PM (cvoba)

He was putting all the pieces together on cable news for millions to see. before that you could only get that info from the internet and it was borderline conspiracy theory stuff. His research basically came from others work like Trevour Loundon New Zeal Blog.

He was revealing a lot about Marxists and globalism that the masses did not know.

Yes I believe his life was threatened and I think he caved/sold out/ and became controlled opposition.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:50 PM (XFue2)

332 Started out in NJ and PA and is now spreading across the country. Pretty good coffee and snacks, good customer service.
Posted by: joncelli, predenounced for your pleasure at September 29, 2017 01:45 PM (RD7QR)

Wawa seems to have a grudge against Pennsyltucky, since they won't spread farther west than Lancaster in PA.

I used to think they just wouldn't go into territory that Sheetz or Rutter's occupied, but that's not true, because Westminster MD has both Sheetz and Wawa...

Posted by: Hikaru at September 29, 2017 01:50 PM (XMDuf)

333 When will the Venezuelan aid ships get to Puerto Rico?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 01:50 PM (LjR2k)

334 Which is fun the first couple times but now makes me gnash my teeth in irritation.

Posted by: joncelli, predenounced for your pleasure at September 29, 2017 01:44 PM (RD7QR)

Fifth Third Bank used it in their commercials for a long time. Grew to hate that song.
---

Yeah.

Songs can also lead you astray: The Orville used Deep Purple's Space Truckin' on their ads. So I tuned in with high expectations. I was disappointed.

Also... Hannity radio uses "This is How We Roll," which now irritates me.

Of course, if I had heard it before Hannity, it might have annoyed me as well.

Posted by: shibumi at September 29, 2017 01:50 PM (aT+Bx)

335 When will the Venezuelan aid ships get to Puerto Rico?

They're stuck behind the Cuba and Haiti.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 29, 2017 01:51 PM (60v4h)

336 >>I'm sure non-white athletes are like 90%+ Democrat, but I don't think there's nearly the political activism among athletes that there is in the sports media side of things.

I doubt many of them are activists at all. Kaepernick wasn't an activist at all until he started dating a woman who is an activist and presto, instant police brutality activist.

As always, the puthy is the root of the problem.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 29, 2017 01:51 PM (/tuJf)

337 Genuflection (or genuflexion), bending at least one knee to the ground, was from early times a gesture of deep respect for a superior.

Thanks, you SOB's.

Posted by: President Donald Trump at September 29, 2017 01:51 PM (2NqXo)

338 331 Yes I believe his life was threatened and I think he caved/sold out/ and became controlled opposition.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:50 PM (XFue2)

Beck has implied that Ailes repeatedly told him to stop, and that if he didn't, his family wouldn't like what was going to happen.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 29, 2017 01:51 PM (XMDuf)

339 On another point, I'm sorry Ace, it just isn't true that "every conservative used to believe in" nationalism. There have been both regionalist and imperialist conservatives. Nationalism is just another modern idol; not quite so bad as the modern internationalism, but really of the same sort.

You can look that up.

Posted by: George LeS at September 29, 2017 01:51 PM (+TcCF)

340 Instead of free coffee, Starbucks will replace its menu board with signs detailing the company's ethical sourcing and remind customers that they support farmers by purchasing coffee.

And remind us they are hiring 10,000 migrants, b/c returning military don't need jobs, and all the other hogwash they spew. (I don't know if the migrant thing is still real, but it was last time I paid attention.)

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 01:51 PM (2zIj5)

341 still no word on whether it's true that mice used to be singular as well as plural, but I can now report that a male mouse is called a "buck," a female a "doe," and a baby mouse a "pinky."

A "buck mouse." Who knew.

Posted by: ace at September 29, 2017 01:51 PM (8rNrN)

342 I would have accepted the books, but I understand why that Librarian was a nasty petty bitch to Melania.

Posted by: David French at September 29, 2017 01:51 PM (OD2ni)

343 Trump may be right about any given thing or situation, but these folks
simply don't like his *style* and thus, they reflexively start their
argument opposite his.
===

Gok called it "aesthetics" during the Trump Wars.

Smart kid.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 01:51 PM (2wRtc)

344 Rodale Press.

Man. There is a way back name.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 29, 2017 01:51 PM (XMGl9)

345 Then it hit me. French is exactly like those Japanese guys you'd hear about, every few years, when I was young. They'd been hiding out on some Pacific island since 1945.
Posted by: George LeS at September 29, 2017 01:49 PM (+TcCF)

I used to like French. I remember when NRO first brought him on board and I thought he explained and defended socon issues very well. Perhaps he still does.

But since he's turned into a #NeverTrump jackass, I haven't read him.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer at September 29, 2017 01:52 PM (cvoba)

346 Spooky Dude!

Posted by: JAS at September 29, 2017 01:52 PM (UnDQI)

347 308 Did Malkin get here real start at Townhall?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 29, 2017 01:45 PM (60v4h)

I have no idea but she is an interesting case study imho.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:52 PM (XFue2)

348 334 Also... Hannity radio uses "This is How We Roll," which now irritates me.

Of course, if I had heard it before Hannity, it might have annoyed me as well.
Posted by: shibumi at September 29, 2017 01:50 PM (aT+Bx)

It was even worse when Hannity was using that "We'll put a boot up your ass, it's the American Way" song.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 29, 2017 01:52 PM (XMDuf)

349 When will the Venezuelan aid ships get to Puerto Rico?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 01:50 PM (LjR2k)

The Cajun Navy has to get out of the way so the Antifa Navy can get into the ports. Venezuela next in line after that. Then the ISIS Navy.

Posted by: Meremortal merely looking at September 29, 2017 01:52 PM (3myMJ)

350 speaking of things the NTSC would be giving up with a prez hillary is the link on insta about a trump judge DESTROYING the hodor DOJ in LA by using this one simple trick.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 29, 2017 01:53 PM (XhN8Z)

351 Until Trump came along, no public figure would dared to have spoken out against these mindless NFL protest-theatre actions. It used to drive me crazy, watching the "Emperor wears no clothes" moments go by one after the other, with McVain often leading the GOPe charge on honoring stupidity.

So now we have Trump. And thankfully too, since all he had to do was issue a couple of tweets and the NFL is suddenly in full damage control mode.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 29, 2017 01:31 PM (ylUqT)

I heard Andrew Klaven on the radio this week say, the right has been saying for years no one has stood up for them in the culture wars. Trump is the first person doing that which is really sending the left into fits. And those allegedly on the right as well

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 29, 2017 01:53 PM (493sH)

352 Yes I believe his life was threatened and I think he caved/sold out/ and became controlled opposition.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:50 PM (XFue2)

Beck has implied that Ailes repeatedly told him to stop, and that if
he didn't, his family wouldn't like what was going to happen.
Posted by: Hikaru at September 29, 2017 01:51 PM
---

And, as someone who enjoys conspiracies, I have to ask:

Who was pressuring Ailes?

Posted by: shibumi at September 29, 2017 01:53 PM (aT+Bx)

353 having attended an Ivy for grad school (nice signaling, eh) and have spent lots of time around the 'nice' but highly mis-educated, I must say that our 'elite', left and right, and their crypto-marxist 'social justice' buddies can pound sand so hard that they start coughing sand-castles...

Posted by: phreshone at September 29, 2017 01:53 PM (DpOmP)

354 Lowry is a well-known NeverTrumper. He must be feeling the heat as editor at National Review. Time to tack to populism - losing subscribers sucks!!

Posted by: MSTisdale at September 29, 2017 01:53 PM (xHVD5)

355 National Review? I haven't deliberately gone there since, what? The 2008 cycle?

Used to be must-read.
Now? Well, we see what it is now.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at September 29, 2017 01:53 PM (jWe5r)

356 I think Michelle Malkin was in Parade Magazine regularly a million years ago.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 01:53 PM (LjR2k)

357 Did Malkin get here real start at Townhall?
===

Seems like it was National Review first. I could be wrong.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 01:53 PM (2wRtc)

358 When will the Venezuelan aid ships get to Puerto Rico?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 01:50 PM (LjR2k)

They are waiting for Sean Penn, to help pilot the ships into harbor.

Posted by: Roy at September 29, 2017 01:53 PM (7n4KQ)

359 Nordlinger writes like he's the elite's emmissary to the deplorables. He always lets us know what the smarter people at Davos are thinking and saying. An the quality of the canapes.

From time to time he will name drop some Cuban or Libyan into his overly familiar screeds using them as an afterthought about socialist or totalitarian oppression. But they are merely his version of the chihuahua or yorkshire terrier found in the arms of a vacuous Kardashian or Hilton type celebrity.

Posted by: Minuteman at September 29, 2017 01:53 PM (EmiNG)

360 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 29, 2017 01:36 PM (O848g)

Makes sense. I said that because Timberlake has been famous since he was a Mouseketeer and banged Britney Spears and then was the main guy of the boy band *NSYNC and then went solo and also a number of movies then married Jessica Biel. He also was the named sponsor for the PGA tournament Timberlake/ Shriners Hospital tournament and gave a boatload of money to them.

That's your TMZ update for the week. ( That joke doesn't work if you don't know what TMZ is)

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 29, 2017 01:54 PM (N7KlP)

361 343 Trump may be right about any given thing or situation, but these folks
simply don't like his *style* and thus, they reflexively start their
argument opposite his.
===

Gok called it "aesthetics" during the Trump Wars.

Smart kid.

**************
Also, there's the whole "Americans are yucky and as soon as we replace them, America will finally be great" thing the cux fux who sux in the GOP NTSC are buying into.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 29, 2017 01:54 PM (XhN8Z)

362
The media are trying to gin up Puerto Rico into another Katrina and it's not getting traction because of the NFL thing.
So savvy deflection on Trump's part?
I think it might be.

I don't think it has anything to do with the NFL thing.I think it's not getting any traction because of the way PDT has handled three consecutive hurricanes.People know it's an unprecedented situation and he's doing a good job

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 29, 2017 01:54 PM (lKyWE)

363 "Started out in NJ and PA and is now spreading across the country. Pretty good coffee and snacks, good customer service.
Posted by: joncelli,"

WaWa is great for road trips with the kids. Cheap gas, good coffee, clean bathrooms and great sandwiches (soups too!!). Plus, the sandwich ordering kiosks are awesome.

Posted by: Benji Carver at September 29, 2017 01:54 PM (OD2ni)

364 338 331 Yes I believe his life was threatened and I think he caved/sold out/ and became controlled opposition.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:50 PM (XFue2)

Beck has implied that Ailes repeatedly told him to stop, and that if he didn't, his family wouldn't like what was going to happen.
Posted by: Hikaru at September 29, 2017 01:51 PM (XMDuf)

I remember one episode on Fox when he spoke about having lunch and a stranger sat down with him and basically threatened his life and his family's life IICR.

While Beck was on Fox he was taking research you could only find on the internet and putting it on Cable TV and making sense of it.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:55 PM (XFue2)

365 332 Started out in NJ and PA and is now spreading across the country. Pretty good coffee and snacks, good customer service.
Posted by: joncelli, predenounced for your pleasure at September 29, 2017 01:45 PM (RD7QR)

Wawa seems to have a grudge against Pennsyltucky, since they won't spread farther west than Lancaster in PA.

I used to think they just wouldn't go into territory that Sheetz or Rutter's occupied, but that's not true, because Westminster MD has both Sheetz and Wawa...
Posted by: Hikaru at September 29, 2017 01:50 PM (XMDuf)

I've seen a couple in Harrisburg but you're right, they seem to be going south rather than west.

_______________________________________

344 Rodale Press.

Man. There is a way back name.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 29, 2017 01:51 PM (XMGl9)

In Emmaus, PA. They seem to be enviro-whacko, am I reading that right?

Posted by: joncelli, predenounced for your pleasure at September 29, 2017 01:55 PM (RD7QR)

366 The only reason I read NRO is Victor Hansen, Conrad Black and to point at all the others and laugh and laugh and laugh. My theory is Zuckerburg flash a wad of cash at them to use Facebook.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 29, 2017 01:55 PM (YV+SU)

367 Beck has implied that Ailes repeatedly told him to stop, and that if he didn't, his family wouldn't like what was going to happen.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 29, 2017 01:51 PM (XMDuf)

What was Beck saying that Ailes didn't like?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer at September 29, 2017 01:55 PM (cvoba)

368 341 341 still no word on whether it's true that mice used to be singular as well as plural, but I can now report that a male mouse is called a "buck," a female a "doe," and a baby mouse a "pinky."

A "buck mouse." Who knew.
Posted by: ace at September 29, 2017 01:51 PM (8rNrN)

Rabbits are also called "buck" and "doe".

Posted by: Hikaru at September 29, 2017 01:55 PM (XMDuf)

369 Trump is still waiting for his ticket to the next NRO Cruise.

Posted by: Roy at September 29, 2017 01:55 PM (7n4KQ)

370 >>He was putting all the pieces together on cable news for millions to
see. before that you could only get that info from the internet and it
was borderline conspiracy theory stuff.

Yeah, a lot of what he did was take language from Soros' Open Society website and literature and then show how the exact same phrases, policies, etc. were then repeated (even verbatim) in Dem policies, prominent Democrat speeches.

It was revealing in the same way that the Podesta and DNC leaks were. A lot of little suspicions and connections were confirmed, and shown to be much deeper than most had imagined.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2017 01:56 PM (W+vEI)

371 Allahpundit "now-unlinkable"?

He may be going the way of Chuckles. I love my bike seat, Johnson of Little gross footballs
Posted by: It's me donna at September 29, 2017 01:01 PM (O2RFr)

Never go full Charles Johnson.

Posted by: CyberCipher at September 29, 2017 01:56 PM (p6WoB)

372 285 Allahpundit was one of my favorites reads way back in the day, second only to this place. He was really funny at times, especially the photoshops. How times change. I haven't gone to Hotair in months
Posted by: brak at September 29, 2017 01:43 PM (WjCgM)

I dropped them last year when they shit all over the commenters by going Facebook over all the pro-Trump commeters (some long time) there. The ongoing #nevertrump bullshit keeps me away.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 29, 2017 01:56 PM (rgxez)

373
341 still no word on whether it's true that mice used to be singular as well as plural, but I can now report that a male mouse is called a "buck," a female a "doe," and a baby mouse a "pinky."

A "buck mouse." Who knew.

Posted by: ace at September 29, 2017 01:51 PM (8rNrN)

You might like the History of English podcast if you haven't checked it out. Its a mix of history and linguistics, with more focus on the history, and how and when words changed and came into usage. I don't think he's ever really covered the "Mouse vs. Mice" but he has talked about why the plural of Ox is Oxen and other stuff along that lines. He's just hit 100 episodes and is only up to the mid 1200's

Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2017 01:57 PM (cAnNx)

374 368 341 341 still no word on whether it's true that mice used to be singular as well as plural, but I can now report that a male mouse is called a "buck," a female a "doe," and a baby mouse a "pinky."

--

I guess that means this is out of date:

Q. what's the cheapest kind of meat?
A. Deer testicles. It's always under a buck!

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at September 29, 2017 01:57 PM (hMwEB)

375 357 Did Malkin get here real start at Townhall?
===

Seems like it was National Review first. I could be wrong.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 01:53 PM (2wRtc)

Started out at VDARE, IIRC. It didn't hurt that she's smokin' hot but she is pretty aggressive too.

Posted by: joncelli, predenounced for your pleasure at September 29, 2017 01:57 PM (RD7QR)

376 >>Trump may be right about any given thing or situation, but these folks
simply don't like his *style* and thus, they reflexively start their
argument opposite his.

Maybe a little but they would be going after any Republican president. They went after Bush as if he was a monster. Remember Kayne declaring that Bush hated black people because the media ginned up the Katrina response into some national nightmare?

No doubt Trump gives as good if not better than he gets but make no mistake, they hate everyone who doesn't get in their particular line.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 29, 2017 01:57 PM (/tuJf)

377 allah pundit had the best skillz at writing wry headlines.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 29, 2017 01:57 PM (XhN8Z)

378 i'll award lowry 1/2 a point...but he's still on my list.

sadly, so is their magazine.

Posted by: concrete girl at September 29, 2017 01:57 PM (NTFxW)

379 Soros does not give a crap about Beck. He would not have threatened Beck. Beck is less than a gnat. Soros feels untouchable b/c he basically is.

IMHO, Beck wanted to feel included and respected by the big boys. They flattered him and he caved. He was the Christian they co-opted for their magazine hit piece on Trump. He was used. He let his ego, pride, vanity & insecurities steer him.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 01:58 PM (2zIj5)

380 So it was an ulcer?

They found a Democrat leaker in his GI? Go figure.

Siriusly prayers for him.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 29, 2017 01:58 PM (fvXIX)

381 376 >>Trump may be right about any given thing or situation, but these folks simply don't like his *style* and thus, they reflexively start their argument opposite his.

Maybe a little but they would be going after any Republican president.

***

if you ever dust off the old PJ orourke book from the 80's you'll see they weren't so keen on reagan eitehr

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 29, 2017 01:58 PM (XhN8Z)

382 Rich Lowry is a culturally leftist asshole who supports 'mothballing' Confederate statues and monuments.

If even HE criticized those articles, they must have been pretty bad. I can't say one way or the other, I refuse to read NRO again.

Posted by: lowtech redneck at September 29, 2017 01:58 PM (hfClf)

383 351- I'm thoroughly enjoying the implosion triggered by our Golden Scalp Weasel

Posted by: kallisto at September 29, 2017 01:58 PM (7l5V0)

384 Starbucks
Instead of free coffee, Starbucks will replace its menu board with signs detailing the company's ethical sourcing and remind customers that they support farmers by purchasing coffee.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 29, 2017 01:46 PM (IqV8l)

Right on comrades, profits don't matter but pay up. Better yet, pay higher prices for their slop

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 29, 2017 01:58 PM (493sH)

385 Starbucks sells burnt coffee.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 01:59 PM (LjR2k)

386 A little flashback to Schlichter , September 4.
http://tinyurl.com/y9t8n3mh
====

Yeah, so after nearly two years of tiresome finger-wagging about "the Rule of Law" and how we need to put our "principles" above our desire for "winning," the whole sordid scam we always knew it always was is revealed for the world to see. They can't hide it anymore and they aren't even trying. Their glorious "conservative principles" aren't principles at all but a skeevy ploy designed to tie our hands and keep us from pursuing policy goals our establishment coalition partners disfavor. They want open borders. They want illegals. They want cheap foreign labor that doesn't get uppity to man their donors' corporations so the Captains of Crony Capitalism don't have to fuss with American workers who won't tolerate being treated like chattel. Yeah, "we're better than that" all right - if you mean that we are better than enforcing the laws the American people passed through a constitutional process if the ruling class decides it doesn't like them.

"The Rule of Law" is for us, not for them. "The Rule of Law" was supposed to be a shield to protect us from the ravages of the powerful, but our Truer-Than-You Cons use it as a sword to cut our legs out from under us and keep us from defending our own interests.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 01:59 PM (2wRtc)

387 338 331 Yes I believe his life was threatened and I think he caved/sold out/ and became controlled opposition.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 01:50 PM (XFue2)

Beck has implied that Ailes repeatedly told him to stop, and that if he didn't, his family wouldn't like what was going to happen.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 29, 2017 01:51 PM (XMDuf)

Beck has also implied that "What I'm about to talk about tomorrow is just going to bring everything crashing to the ground!"

So count me as skeptical on the stories about threats to him.

Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2017 01:59 PM (cAnNx)

388 Last Sunday Cardinals manager Mike Matheny said what Trump said was hurtful and other lefty drivel. Starting on Monday Mike will have a nice long off-season to cry into his pillow over it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 29, 2017 01:29 PM (493sH)

I saw some of the other mlb managers said similar stupidities when asked about that rookie catcher for the A's who knelt last Saturday. Only the Mets manager came out against kneeling.

All I can think is that baseball managers are so terrified of being called racists by SJWs that they'll mouth stupid crap about "diversity...hurtful...first Amendment blah, blah, blah" even though their fan base is overwhelmingly white and most of their players are either white or Hispanic.

Matheny is a disappointment because he has come out in support of Christians in the past.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersanda at the present time) at September 29, 2017 01:59 PM (ZM2xo)

389 "Started out at VDARE, IIRC. It didn't hurt that she's smokin' hot but she is pretty aggressive too.
Posted by: joncelli"

I still get a kick out of Zell Miller white knighting for Michelle during his famous screaming match with Chris Matthews in 2004.

Posted by: Benji Carver at September 29, 2017 01:59 PM (OD2ni)

390 In Emmaus, PA. They seem to be enviro-whacko, am I reading that right?

Lot of health nut stuff. They have changed and refocused over the years. Used to have a lot of gardening/self help stuff around Y2k.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 29, 2017 01:59 PM (XMGl9)

391 Beck learned more than he could comprehend then went crazy, if front of his audience, second season Fox Channel.

Posted by: gNewt at September 29, 2017 01:59 PM (ylXIx)

392 Starbucks
Instead of free coffee, Starbucks will replace its menu board with signs detailing the company's ethical sourcing and remind customers that they support farmers by purchasing coffee.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 29, 2017 01:46 PM (IqV8l)

People used to also support plantation owners by buying cotton.

Posted by: Roy at September 29, 2017 02:00 PM (7n4KQ)

393 I used to like NRO.
Jay Nordlinger was literate, witty, interesting to read, and would actually personally answer his emails.
Jonah Goldberg was funny, sharp, and I liked Cosmo the Wonder Dog.

Hatred of Trump and all of his works has turned them stupid and humorless - just like the leftists they now defend.

Sad !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at September 29, 2017 02:00 PM (z3Hmr)

394 allah pundit was really funny with his Jets commentary especially during the infamous Sanchez butt fumble incident.

Posted by: IC at September 29, 2017 02:00 PM (a0IVu)

395 What Beck did on Fox took brass balls. He is a shell of his former self for it.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 02:00 PM (XFue2)

396 391 Beck learned more than he could comprehend then went crazy, if front of his audience, second season Fox Channel.
Posted by: gNewt at September 29, 2017 01:59 PM (ylXIx)

Still, the Lefty swing didn't really start until cable providers refused to put his channel on the air.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 29, 2017 02:01 PM (XMDuf)

397 They're like all on the left. Whatever Trump does or says or wants, must be opposed.

No matter what.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at September 29, 2017 02:01 PM (9y0xs)

398 VDH came down hard a few months back on his fellow colleagues at NRO for their nevertrumping mania; he even called them names. I've tried and failed to refind the article, but it was a peach.

Of course he rarely writes there any more. My NRO clicks are down to near zero.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 29, 2017 02:02 PM (0ogQG)

399 Guess the market for cabins on the National Review cruises are collapsing.

Posted by: Packer Shareholder at September 29, 2017 02:02 PM (xnAyb)

400 >>Beck learned more than he could comprehend then went crazy, if front of his audience, second season Fox Channel.

Heh. Went from Shep Smith-like excitable to nutso.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2017 02:02 PM (W+vEI)

401 Just an FYI one of the US Soccer players doesn't put his hand over his heart during the Anthem, I never knew why but he's a Jehovah Witness and he stated that his Heart belongs to God, I know nothing about his religion but his explanation is fine with me.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 29, 2017 02:02 PM (dKiJG)

402 Vic -

In Upstate SC there is a place called Sugartit. Really not much more than a crossroad out in the sticks.

Posted by: Minuteman at September 29, 2017 02:02 PM (EmiNG)

403 This essay is why i read this blog. Well done, Mister Ace of Spades!

Posted by: booknlass at September 29, 2017 02:03 PM (n7KC8)

404 Beck has also implied that "What I'm about to talk about tomorrow is just going to bring everything crashing to the ground!"

So count me as skeptical on the stories about threats to him.
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Yeah same here.

Erik Ericksen was constantly going about "threats to his life and family" post-Trump.

Paranoid schizos can be high-functioning.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 02:03 PM (2wRtc)

405 Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 29, 2017 02:02 PM (dKiJG)

That's actually a nice explanation and no, I am not against putting your hand over your heart with respect to the anthem.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 02:03 PM (iVOAv)

406 Cry Therapy Puddle Pile. I like it Ace.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'it all tastes like chicken' at September 29, 2017 02:04 PM (rN46U)

407 O/T:

Oh this is beautiful. So there was the story this morning about a Librarian rejecting FLOTUS's Dr. Seuss book gift for being racist.

Well, over at the Daily Mail, they found a picture of same Librarian taken a couple of months ago, and get this, with her wearing a "Cat in the Hat" hat and hugging a "Cat in the Hat" doll and book.

The Dailymail, doing the work American journolists wont do.

Posted by: WisRich at September 29, 2017 02:04 PM (OAlmw)

408
Kaepernick's action was a big "Look at me"--nothing more. Fucking pudsnacker.

There's a protocol to be observed during the performance of the Anthem. The purpose is honoring the song. Kneeling isn't part of said protocol.

This is blatant disrespect of that Anthem, the flag as a symbol of the country, the county itself by extension, and most importantly, those who sacrificed years and lives to ensure our continued existence as the most exceptional country on this planet.

Nothing really important, I guess.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 29, 2017 02:05 PM (S/hVx)

409 407 O/T:

Oh this is beautiful. So there was the story this morning about a Librarian rejecting FLOTUS's Dr. Seuss book gift for being racist.

Well, over at the Daily Mail, they found a picture of same Librarian taken a couple of months ago, and get this, with her wearing a "Cat in the Hat" hat and hugging a "Cat in the Hat" doll and book.

The Dailymail, doing the work American journolists wont do.

Posted by: WisRich at September 29, 2017 02:04 PM (OAlmw)

Linked to the Free Beacon story about it in the last post.

Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2017 02:05 PM (cAnNx)

410 LOL.

Glenn Beck.

You know those Crazy Female Relationship Horror Stories that all the Morons seem to have?

I suspect that from a relationship standpoint, Gleen Beck would be the equivalent to one of those Crazy Women.

Posted by: shibumi at September 29, 2017 02:05 PM (aT+Bx)

411 Did Malkin get here real start at Townhall?
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Seems like it was National Review first. I could be wrong.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 01:53 PM (2wRtc)

I believe she started out in Los Angeles working for none other than Arianna Huffington. Then, spent time as a newspaper columnist in Seattle -- all before she started michellemalkin.com and Hot Air. The left likes to refer to her as "just a blogger" (a term of derision). OTOH, Malkin has written a lot of books along the way. Most of them pretty darn good, IMHO.

Posted by: CyberCipher at September 29, 2017 02:05 PM (p6WoB)

412 The thing that I disliked about Goldberg was his insistence of including a rare example of a Republican doing what his column was criticizing the Dems for doing as a normal practice.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 29, 2017 02:05 PM (N7KlP)

413 Glenn Beck:

Poster Child for "Veteran of a Thousand Psychic Wars"
_

ace

Poster Child for 'Veteran Cosmic Rocker"

Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 29, 2017 02:06 PM (uBKPR)

414 They have Kaepernick's jersey as a doormat in a bar somewhere.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 02:06 PM (LjR2k)

415 Linked to the Free Beacon story about it in the last post.
Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2017 02:05 PM (cAnNx)

Sorry, missed it.

Posted by: WisRich at September 29, 2017 02:06 PM (OAlmw)

416 I see Delaney Walker of the Titans said don't come to the game if you don't like the protests. OK then.

He also said the kneeling was not to disrespect the military. Um...yes, whether you realize it or not a-hole, it is. His lack of realization shows what a spoiled brat millionaire crybaby he is.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 29, 2017 02:06 PM (r+sAi)

417 Lowry was all over the tv during the campaigns blasting Trump even when he had the nomination. He's nothing more than a RINO turd circling the bowl there at NRO. He ran off at the mouth way too many times speaking "for the establishment" in his own words, to get an ounce of respect at this point. Fuck him. This is nothing more than a pretend fight by NeverTrumpers - "not the face, not the face dammit!!"

Posted by: MSTisdale at September 29, 2017 02:06 PM (xHVD5)

418
The second point I want to make is that the NFL also has a protocol dealing with this--so the President was entirely within bounds.

Now I am done talking and back to lurking.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 29, 2017 02:07 PM (S/hVx)

419 Well, over at the Daily Mail, they found a picture of same Librarian taken a couple of months ago, and get this, with her wearing a "Cat in the Hat" hat and hugging a "Cat in the Hat" doll and book.

Not surprising that this is the case, seeing as how there's nearly a stereotype of librarians Loving Dr. Seuss Sexually. Nice reminder, though, that "leftists believe none of the things they say".

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 29, 2017 02:07 PM (HtLSE)

420 410 LOL.

Glenn Beck.

You know those Crazy Female Relationship Horror Stories that all the Morons seem to have?

I suspect that from a relationship standpoint, Gleen Beck would be the equivalent to one of those Crazy Women.
Posted by: shibumi at September 29, 2017 02:05 PM (aT+Bx)

So Glenn Beck is The Abyss?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 02:07 PM (XFue2)

421 The Dailymail, doing the work American journolists wont do.

American Journalists did cover this story. What they did was show all the times Obama & Michelle read the Seuss books to children. It was hilarious.

And the librarians higher ups over-ruled her & said she had no authority to do it & the Seuss books were accepted.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 02:07 PM (2zIj5)

422 They're like all on the left. Whatever Trump does or says or wants, must be opposed.

No matter what
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And Trump knows that and exploits it.

Which, you have to admit, is entertaining.

Posted by: shibumi at September 29, 2017 02:07 PM (aT+Bx)

423 WaWa is great for road trips with the kids. Cheap gas, good coffee, clean bathrooms and great sandwiches (soups too!!). Plus, the sandwich ordering kiosks are awesome.

Posted by: Benji Carver at September 29, 2017 01:54 PM (OD2ni)

They also have a phone app so you can carefully choose your sandwich and all the assorted toppings before hand. As soon as you enter the Wawa it's transmitted. Saves time if you're ordering a bunch of sandwiches or on the road.

Posted by: The MSM at September 29, 2017 02:08 PM (EgwCt)

424 The idiot who told fans no one is forcing them to go the games is now inventing things:

NFL star Delanie Walker reveals he has received death threats and racist abuse since anthem protest

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 29, 2017 02:08 PM (493sH)

425 According to a source on the internet (laughter), "mouse" and "mice" are direct descendants of the German words "maus" and "mause" (mause has an a umlaut, I'm too lazy to hunt up the character). "Mause" apparently mutated to "mice" because of the pronunciation of the umlauted "a".

Posted by: mrp at September 29, 2017 02:08 PM (Pqytn)

426 The Dailymail, doing the work American journolists wont do.
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Yeah I noticed this big time during Obama. Its what really convinced me that we were living in 'soft' totalitarian state and didn't realize it.

Posted by: simplemind at September 29, 2017 02:08 PM (nvxGd)

427 Unleash the Poop Swastikas. Dive dive dive.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 02:09 PM (LjR2k)

428 He also said the kneeling was not to disrespect the military. Um...yes, whether you realize it or not a-hole, it is. His lack of realization shows what a spoiled brat millionaire crybaby he is.

To quote Judge Judy:

"Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining."

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 02:09 PM (2zIj5)

429 Don't worry, Rich. If they DO jump, the Weekly Standard guys will break their fall.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at September 29, 2017 02:09 PM (G/CT/)

430 Trump not only trampled NRO's sacred cows, but he showed everyone they were printed on cardboard, then pointed and laughed when he was done.

The establishment was able to bamboozle people for years by chanting their alleged principles like mantras. It put people into a zombie trance. Some of those buffoons at NRO were complicit by writing articles which tried to couch the mendacity in alleged intellectual arguments.

Now they are exposed as frauds, driven by the embarrassing exposure and resulting butt hurt. Reality can sometimes force people to embrace delusion. French and Nordlinger prove it.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 29, 2017 02:09 PM (6fmef)

431 >>They have Kaepernick's jersey as a doormat in a bar somewhere.

The same place has Marshawn Lynch's jersey right next to it and they are being called racist. Why?

Because they have shirts ordered Lynch Kaepernick so naturally they are implying they think Kaepernick should be lynched.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 29, 2017 02:10 PM (/tuJf)

432 So has Glen Beck become entombed in his home hoarder collection and cats? I'm just wondering.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 29, 2017 02:10 PM (YV+SU)

433 By the way, I don't know how one agitates relentlessly for foreign wars -- which will, inevitably, kill thousands (or tens of thousands) of civilians, whether by collateral damage or indirectly through privation - if you aren't a nationalist believing that Americans prize American lives and American safety more highly than the lives of non-Americans.

One way is if you are an Israeli nationalist.

Posted by: Antoine Dumas at September 29, 2017 02:10 PM (DflMi)

434 More Schlichter - in the spirit of this discussion
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http://tinyurl.com/yb9jb6g7

I guess now we're not supposed to be fighting culture wars anymore - man, it's so hard to keep up with these ever-changing new rules! I'm old enough to remember way back to 2016, before Trump got nominated, and I could have sworn Conservative Inc., was gung-ho for the whole culture war thing. But then Trump actually fought it, taking on the big, soft target that is the spoiled, semi-literate athletes who like to rub their contempt for the flag we love in our faces in the guise of woke wokedness. Now we suddenly discover that fighting back is horribly uncouth and declasse and "Oh, well I never!"

Gosh, I would have thought from all those cruise panels about how our crumbling culture is slouching toward Babylon and the need to resist the liberal onslaught that maybe we ought to actually resist the liberal onslaught, but see, that was my mistake. I took it seriously when Conservative, Inc., promised to fight the leftist blitzkrieg against normal Americans. It was all a scam, a lie, a pose for us rubes. The Tru Cons didn't actually mean it.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 02:10 PM (2wRtc)

435 Lord, many of the comments to the Lowry article sound no different than what you would read in the Nation.

They really have gone nuts.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersanda at the present time) at September 29, 2017 02:10 PM (ZM2xo)

436 I can't wait to see which pieces of core conservative principle these super-principled uncorruptable TruCons repudiate and revile next.

All disrespect intended.
Posted by: Ace at 12:53 PM
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And that's the truth, ace. NRO used to be my favorite conservative site, bar none. I was not happy when they started going wobbly during the primaries, but when they couldn't even bring themselves to find one good word to say about Trump after he won the Republican nomination, I left for good. I even used to comment there a bit from when they first started with comments, but then when they went to Facebook, no way.

All the while I was reading the posts here, for years and years, but I was scared of the comments

. I got better.

Posted by: bluebell at September 29, 2017 02:11 PM (UoSKV)

437 NFL star Delanie Walker reveals he has received death threats and racist abuse since anthem protest

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Yawn. Every public figure, I'm sure, at one time or another receives death threats. Suck it up, buttercup. I thought you were a big tough guy.

Looks like my fuck field is outta fucks to give.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 29, 2017 02:11 PM (vg8iE)

438 NRO is like the WSJ without math.
"Some people, you know, just aren't cut out for Booshwood!"

Posted by: I Heart Radio Browser *go ahead just click me :) * at September 29, 2017 02:11 PM (0tN2W)

439
Kaepernick's action was a big "Look at me"--nothing more. Fucking pudsnacker.

Kapernick's actions were because the 49'ers were desperately trying to dump him beforethe start of the season so they wouldn't have to make a huge bonus payment on his overblown contract and he was going to make it hard for them to do that .It was purely financial

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 29, 2017 02:11 PM (lKyWE)

440 During the Cold War, a few Communist countries (like Hungary) allowed a handful of neutered non-Communist parties to exist, to preserve the fiction that they had a multi-party political system.

This is the role the National Review-niks want to play.

The deal was clear - it was acceptable if someone like Jeb! won the Presidency once in a while (if increasingly infrequently), because Jeb! agreed with the Democrats on all the truly important issues (like immigration), and Jeb! would accept the social racket - once the government has mandated transgender bathrooms and transgenders in the military, those regulations are carved in stone, and can never, never be repealed.

That's why Trump is driving them insane - the function of both the Democratic and GOPe parties is to keep moving down the inexorable arc of Progressive history, and to face someone who doesn't agree with is utterly, completely unacceptable.

Posted by: Packer Shareholder at September 29, 2017 02:11 PM (xnAyb)

441 Newsweak was sold for a dollar. The undead media insult Malkin by calling her a blogger. As opposed to a dead relic of the past that no one watches.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 02:11 PM (LjR2k)

442 It's funny that the black community is big on the theory of disrespect whereas most anything can be construed as disrespecting and thus the high murder rate in Chicago. Gotta keep it real.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 29, 2017 02:11 PM (N7KlP)

443 So has Glen Beck become entombed in his home hoarder collection and cats? I'm just wondering.
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Nah. He and Hillary are playing beer pong as we speak.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 29, 2017 02:12 PM (vg8iE)

444 NFL star Delanie Walker reveals he has received death threats and racist abuse since anthem protest

Death threats, if real, could mean quite a lot of things in various contexts. People "bravely defying convention" get death threats, but so do entitled assholes going on tour as Gaping Asshole and the Effluvia/Ejecta, and some people get death threats for no real reason - because crazy people exist.

Point is, death threats only give one the moral high ground automatically in one ethical system: Marxism. Because, that means they're being oppressed, you see.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 29, 2017 02:12 PM (HtLSE)

445 433 433 By the way, I don't know how one agitates relentlessly for foreign wars -- which will, inevitably, kill thousands (or tens of thousands) of civilians, whether by collateral damage or indirectly through privation - if you aren't a nationalist believing that Americans prize American lives and American safety more highly than the lives of non-Americans.

One way is if you are an Israeli nationalist.
Posted by: Antoine Dumas at September 29, 2017 02:10 PM (DflMi)

Aaaaaaaaaaaaand they're off......

Posted by: Hikaru at September 29, 2017 02:12 PM (XMDuf)

446
431 >>They have Kaepernick's jersey as a doormat in a bar somewhere.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 29, 2017 02:10 PM (/tuJf)

They should put Aaron Rodgers jersey next to Kaepenicks to tell the world that they're all for diversity. They hate entitled NFL pricks no matter what their skin color is.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersanda at the present time) at September 29, 2017 02:13 PM (ZM2xo)

447 Haven't gone on National Review in a long, long while except to pop into the comments to let everyone there know that they don't have to put up with Analpundit's (and the rest of the NeverTrumptards there) constant stupidity and anti-American "ConservativeInc" ranting lies - they can just come to AofS.

Yes - I used to read them. They, like the NFL, are dead to me now. Luckily (?!) I am Giants fan so not watching this year is going to be ridiculously easy.

Not reading NR? That was waaaaay easier getting over. They have yet to invent a machine which can measure how little time it took for me to get over those jack-holes.

Posted by: Publius Redux at September 29, 2017 02:13 PM (Fb9aZ)

448 Lowry has always been an extreme oppurunist and you could tell that during the run up to the election Ramesh (at lest to me) was trying to position himself as an alternative to rich in the event of a Trump victory. I imagine this is Lowry's way of further sealing himself of from getting axed by the anti-Never Trumpers.

Also there is a lesson here sometimes it's better to work with the opputunist than to convert the supposedly principled rival faction.

Posted by: Sam Haysom at September 29, 2017 02:13 PM (1pZw2)

449 Delanie Walker reveals he has received death threats and racist abuse since anthem protest
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This just in Jackie Robinson not impressed. Not. One. F'n. Bit.

Posted by: simplemind at September 29, 2017 02:13 PM (83ca+)

450 Lord, many of the comments to the Lowry article sound no different than what you would read in the Nation.

I read that first as a prayer. Like you were telling God that the comments were similar.

Posted by: Masked Commenter at September 29, 2017 02:13 PM (2zIj5)

451 Delanie Walker who?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 02:14 PM (LjR2k)

452 The truth is, the Republican party hated Reagan, too. But they were willing to swallow it in order to work together and not defy their own party's leader out of some sense of purity.

I don't like Donald Trump the person either. I consider him unworthy of the office of president -- at least, as it existed 20 years ago. After Clinton's antics, interviews about underwear and with fruit loops bathing lunatics, etc, I'm not sure the office has any dignity left.

But I do respect Donald Trump as president, in the office. He has not as of yet sleazed it up like much of his past life. He's not taking drugs in office like the last two Democrat presidents. He's doing pretty well in terms of policy, even if he stumbles a bit once in a while learning the job. He's crude and thoughtless in his wording of tweets sometimes, but we're in a crude and thoughtless time, so maybe that's just being folksy in our generation.

Overall, I give the guy a C+ and he's getting better at doing the job of president. At this time for Obama he was still stuttering into slow teleprompters and walking into windows, so its a step up.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 29, 2017 02:14 PM (39g3+)

453 As a lifelong NR reader, it is disappointing to watch Mr. Lowry's descent into extremism.

I salute the courage of Mr. Lowry's colleagues. Mr. Trump's unprincipled, reckless stances on important issues require vigilant conservative opposition, even if it invites attacks from the far-right.

Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at September 29, 2017 01:46 PM (ismre)

Take note Mary Clogginstien. That's the way you do it, as Mark Knopfler might say.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Beaer at September 29, 2017 02:14 PM (/qEW2)

454 @448 yes. always had that slick opportunist wibe

Posted by: runner at September 29, 2017 02:14 PM (QC/4S)

455 The idiot who told fans no one is forcing them to go the games is now inventing things:

But telling them nobody is forcing them to stay in this racist oppressive country is undoubtedly racist. Yes?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 29, 2017 02:14 PM (tbOMB)

456 Wow. So people still read NR?

Posted by: Skookumchuk at September 29, 2017 02:14 PM (TKmA0)

457 Nationalism -- which every conservative used to believe in -- is now a species of #Racism, just like the left always claimed, according to these folks corrupted by their hysterical reaction to Trump.
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You're confusing nationalism with patriotism. Nationalism was started by the progressives, with the idea that we must have national solutions to problems, national solutions like Prohibition to solve the alcoholic problem.

The nationalist prided nationalism as superior to "mere patriotism", that is love of country.

We should all avoid bait-and-switch groupthink that progressives have foisted on us. The left has this uncanny knack to try to pass off their former sins as yours.

I want to see the flag respected because it is the symbol of America and whatever America is or we hope to become, not because I want greater identification as a "nation", which is a word Madison strictly avoided in referring to America.

Posted by: Axeman at September 29, 2017 02:14 PM (JhE5a)

458 "401 Just an FYI one of the US Soccer players doesn't put his hand over his heart during the Anthem, I never knew why but he's a Jehovah Witness and he stated that his Heart belongs to God, I know nothing about his religion but his explanation is fine with me."

Jehovah's Witnesses have gone to prison for refusing to say the Pledge of Allegiance.

They take their beliefs considerably more seriously than the losers in the NFL.

Posted by: Packer Shareholder at September 29, 2017 02:15 PM (xnAyb)

459 Posted by: Jack Sock at September 29, 2017 01:54 PM (N7KlP)

Another Mouseketeer from that group is a virtual unknown outside the music biz, but a friend of mine. His name is Matt Morris, and he writes for Christine Aquilera, Cher and Sarah Mclachan, among others.

Posted by: Meremortal merely looking at September 29, 2017 02:15 PM (3myMJ)

460 Nationalism will come back.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 02:15 PM (LjR2k)

461 All the while I was reading the posts here, for years and years, but I was scared of the comments . I got better.

Posted by: bluebell at September 29, 2017 02:11 PM (UoSKV)

And a shiv.

Which can be really useful in the comments.

Posted by: blaster at September 29, 2017 02:16 PM (ilmE9)

462 Here's the 2017 NFL rulebook: http://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/2017-nfl-rulebook/

The
word "anthem" does not appear in it. The "rule" everyone is quoting
isn't actually a rule, it's a guideline from the Game Operations Manual
(which isn't public)

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 29, 2017 02:16 PM (UBzPO)

463 Its all immaterial:

U.S. Code, Title36, Chapter 10, Section 171 spells behavior during playing of national anthem with flag present or not present. Forget the NFL, sports teams in general and public schools getting in on the act. Its U.S. law period. No penalty or punishment for not obeying the code, however.

Posted by: Jack is Back! at September 29, 2017 02:16 PM (lYSDi)

464 It's funny that the black community is big on the theory of disrespect

Respect is EARNED. Not given simply because one is breathing.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 29, 2017 02:16 PM (XMGl9)

465 Some on here have mentioned the advantages of Trump as a habit/instinct conservative, but I think those qualities are mirrored by disadvantages of being a logical/doctrinaire conservative. If one doesn't *feel* one's conservatism, if large parts of one's conservatism are reasoned out or learned without particular impact, it's much easier to weasel yourself into something blatantly unconservative through sophistry.

Andy "bugs bugs bugs" Sullivan was only the most obvious and extreme example. If you can't reason somebody out of a position they weren't reasoned *into*, that applies also to positions that are *right* - and if you lose your mind (and hence all structure of reason), the sky's the limit!

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 29, 2017 02:17 PM (HtLSE)

466 They should put Aaron Rodgers jersey next to Kaepenicks to tell the world that they're all for diversity. They hate entitled NFL pricks no matter what their skin color is.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersanda at the present time) at September 29, 2017 02:13 PM (ZM2xo)

Exactly. That smug asshole is right up there among the NFL's top jagoffs

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 29, 2017 02:17 PM (493sH)

467 Beck's biggest problem on Fox News was that he had material for a 30 minute show.

They gave him an hour.

Posted by: JAS at September 29, 2017 02:17 PM (UnDQI)

468 Remember, NRO published an entire Never Trump issue, with more than a dozen wise pundits telling us rubes why we should not vote for him. And then the rubes went and did it anyway!

NR used to be out in front of conservative opinion. They found out last year that they are not in the driver's seat anymore. It has made them nuts.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersanda at the present time) at September 29, 2017 02:18 PM (ZM2xo)

469 For those that didn't see this cartoon it's a good one Ben Garrison on "New Names for NFL teams":

https://twitter.com/hashtag/BenGarrison?src=hash

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 02:18 PM (iVOAv)

470 And a shiv.

Which can be really useful in the comments.
Posted by: blaster at September 29, 2017 02:16 PM (ilmE9)
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I know, right? Just think, if I had never started commenting here, I would have never wound up in jail and made myself a shiv out of a plastic spork. Or even have known what a shiv is.

Posted by: bluebell at September 29, 2017 02:18 PM (UoSKV)

471 Delanie Walker reveals he has received death threats and racist abuse since anthem protest

The death threat thing is so meaningless. I mean for crying out loud, I've gotten death threats online and I'm NOBODY. Everybody who has any level of fame at all gets death threats. Its a meaningless metric.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 29, 2017 02:18 PM (39g3+)

472 Steevy, re: Rapone it did not take much sleuthing to discover Dr. Rasheed Hosein and his linkage to Rapone. Just by digging into www.west-point.org I found that out several nights ago. Over as USMA's own page, Rapone is listed as one of the cadets Hosein mentored as faculty advisor.

And yes why it is true, Rapone had been kicked out of the Rangers while enlisted, an RFS as Country Singer had mentioned a couple days ago.

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=75021

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 29, 2017 02:19 PM (fvXIX)

473 put Aaron Rodgers jersey next to Kaepenicks to tell the world that they're all for diversity
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I believe I read that they did.

He seriously screwed up. The fans in GB own the team, not some globalist limousine liberal.

Posted by: simplemind at September 29, 2017 02:19 PM (SvZ/k)

474
The word "anthem" does not appear in it. The "rule" everyone is quoting isn't actually a rule, it's a guideline from the Game Operations Manual (which isn't public)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 29, 2017 02:16 PM (UBzPO)

The game operation manual is the law in the NFL

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 29, 2017 02:19 PM (lKyWE)

475 Posted by: Jack Sock at September 29, 2017 01:54 PM (N7KlP)

Oh, and Timberlake produces a lot of Matt's stuff.

Posted by: Meremortal merely looking at September 29, 2017 02:19 PM (3myMJ)

476 The word "anthem" does not appear in it. The "rule" everyone is quoting isn't actually a rule, it's a guideline from the Game

When it can result in fines, suspensions and loss of future draft choices, I would say it is more than just a guideline.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 29, 2017 02:19 PM (XMGl9)

477 Here's the 2017 NFL rulebook: http://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/2017-nfl-rulebook/

The

word "anthem" does not appear in it. The "rule" everyone is quoting

isn't actually a rule, it's a guideline from the Game Operations Manual

(which isn't public)

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 29, 2017 02:16 PM (UBzPO)

Are you from Time magazine?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 29, 2017 02:19 PM (tbOMB)

478 The word "anthem" does not appear in it. The "rule" everyone is quoting isn't actually a rule, it's a guideline from the Game Operations Manual

Yeah my brother read through the rules and there's nothing at all about what to do with the anthem. The only rule that comes close is that both teams are to be on the sidelines and ready 10 minutes before the kickoff.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 29, 2017 02:20 PM (39g3+)

479 The "death threat" thing is simply another claim to victimhood from somebody who is demonstrably not a victim of pretty much anything except the "progressive" intellectual cesspool within which he was reared and mis-educated.

Posted by: filbert at September 29, 2017 02:20 PM (umyKO)

480 I'm convinced that when a thread here goes over 400 or so comments it sets off an alarm bell at Stormfront alerting one of the commenters to come over and check the "Dual Loyalty" box.

Posted by: joncelli, predenounced for your pleasure at September 29, 2017 02:20 PM (RD7QR)

481 474
The word "anthem" does not appear in it. The "rule" everyone is quoting isn't actually a rule, it's a guideline from the Game Operations Manual (which isn't public)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 29, 2017 02:16 PM (UBzPO)

The game operation manual is the law in the NFL
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 29, 2017 02:19 PM (lKyWE)

Hey now don't go getting facts in the way of his fantasy "Trump ruined this" stupidity.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 29, 2017 02:20 PM (cAnNx)

482 >>>Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 29, 2017 02:14 PM (39g3+)

I don't understand this attitude. All that matters is that Trump is not a traitorous, spineless POS who ought to be stood up against the wall before a firing squad. Given the political alternatives we have available, he is invaluable. He has a price above rubies.

Also, when did Obama or Bush take drugs while in office? Honestly, I've never heard that.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Beaer at September 29, 2017 02:20 PM (/qEW2)

483 So, an analogy has come to mind in all of this kneeling business.

In the 80s, when Coke was losing market share to Pepsi, Coke executives decided that they needed to do something big and drastic to juice sales. They created a new formula and extensively market researched it. The market research indicated that they'd potentially lose 10% of their customers, but there was serious up side potential to gain sales through new customers.

What was the biggest problem? That 10% were their most loyal customers. Coke knew that they were going to alienate their most loyal customers by doing this, but they decided to do it anyway in order to grab some new customers who may or may not have been there (spoiler alert: they were not there).

The NFL is trying to appeal to non-customers by trying to attract them with leftist signaling while explicitly abandoning their core audience, their most loyal customers. The people they are trying to appeal to don't really like the core product anyway, but the NFL is going to reverse it's slowing trend by pissing off their base while appealing to those that don't like them anyway.

The parallels work in my mind. Thank you business school. This is what you've given me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at September 29, 2017 02:20 PM (mC1ZI)

484 463 - Right, but that's unconstitutional nonsense. The government cannot compel me to behave in any particular way with respect to the anthem. My fellow citizens are welcome to hold me in contempt if my behavior offends. But the government can stick Section 171 where the sun don't shine.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 29, 2017 02:20 PM (kwakj)

485 Right. I was taken the woodshed about this a couple of weeks ago by some moron who knew more than I did about specie/species.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer at September 29, 2017 01:36 PM (cvoba)

Heh, that was me. My cow college degree was largely based on that stuff.

Posted by: stace at September 29, 2017 02:21 PM (pCPGh)

486 "Conduct detrimental to the team" is all the NFL needed to stop Kaepernick. They didn't look forward and lost control.

Posted by: Meremortal merely looking at September 29, 2017 02:21 PM (3myMJ)

487 Brian in New Orleans is frequently clueless here

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 29, 2017 02:21 PM (sZ7db)

488 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 02:18 PM (iVOAv)

That cartoon is hilarious & says it all.

Political cartoonists are brilliant IMO. They can distill thousands of written words and the cultural zeitgeist into one cartoon. It amazes me.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 02:21 PM (2zIj5)

489 Trump never called NFL players SOBs. Asked wouldn't you like if one of the owners to say "Get that SOB off the field, you're fired!. You're fired!!"

Technically I don't think he even said that HE would like it if they said that.

In the same way that HE never fired any NFLers, he also didn't call those kneeling SOBs "SOBs".

Poor Trump, people putting words in his otherwise pristine mouth.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 29, 2017 02:22 PM (kfcYC)

490
The game operation manual also states what psi footballs will be inflated to and Roger Godell

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 29, 2017 02:22 PM (lKyWE)

491 Allahpundit, Glenn Beck, NRO...what is it about Trump that makes people go full Charles Johnson?

Posted by: CyberCipher at September 29, 2017 02:22 PM (p6WoB)

492 During the Rush program just now the "news update" said that the head of our state police will be "let go" for expressing her opinion about the NFL players. Evidently she referred to the players as overpaid thugs and they took offense. The radio announcer felt compelled to assure everybody that this was not a case of free speech!

Posted by: Chilling the most at September 29, 2017 02:22 PM (9Ej78)

493 The game operation manual is the law in the NFL

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 29, 2017 02:19 PM (lKyWE)

Agreed. The reported text uses "should" instead of "must" though. Both have very specific definitions in law. The "rule" everyone keeps mentioning isn't actually a rule.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 29, 2017 02:22 PM (UBzPO)

494 The Pittsburgh Kneelers.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 02:22 PM (LjR2k)

495 "The NFL is trying to appeal to non-customers by trying to attract them with leftist signaling while explicitly abandoning their core audience, their most loyal customers."

They are trying to appeal to people who hate football and intend to ban football.

Good luck with that.

Posted by: Packer Shareholder at September 29, 2017 02:22 PM (xnAyb)

496 Just an FYI one of the US Soccer players doesn't put his hand over his heart during the Anthem, I never knew why but he's a Jehovah Witness and he stated that his Heart belongs to God

As a Christian I have always been uncomfortable with the pledge and the way people stand up and treat it with respect. Its almost a prayer to the nation and I've never done it or put my hand on my heart, etc. I take my hat off and stand out of respect for those who fought and died for the flag, and for what the nation stands for but the rest just doesn't sit well with my honor for God.

I don't condemn or look down at people who do so. Its a personal choice, for me.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 29, 2017 02:22 PM (39g3+)

497 479 The "death threat" thing is simply another claim to victimhood from somebody who is demonstrably not a victim of pretty much anything except the "progressive" intellectual cesspool within which he was reared and mis-educated.
Posted by: filbert at September 29, 2017 02:20 PM (umyKO)

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If people are getting death threats then they should be going to the police, not parading around the fact like a badge of honor.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at September 29, 2017 02:23 PM (mC1ZI)

498 put Aaron Rodgers jersey next to Kaepenicks to tell the world that they're all for diversity
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I believe I read that they did.

He seriously screwed up. The fans in GB own the team, not some globalist limousine liberal.

Posted by: simplemind at September 29, 2017 02:19 PM (SvZ/k)

Good, it belongs there. What's very disappointing are the fans who will still blindly support football even if players shit in their faces every day of the week.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 29, 2017 02:23 PM (493sH)

499 When it can result in fines, suspensions and loss of future draft choices, I would say it is more than just a guideline.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 29, 2017 02:19 PM (XMGl9)

It doesn't though. I'm not trying to pick a fight, I just think facts are important.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 29, 2017 02:23 PM (UBzPO)

500 484 463 - Right, but that's unconstitutional nonsense. The government cannot compel me to behave in any particular way with respect to the anthem. My fellow citizens are welcome to hold me in contempt if my behavior offends. But the government can stick Section 171 where the sun don't shine.
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 29, 2017 02:20 PM (kwakj)

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They also can't force me to buy a product from an insurance...

Oh wait...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at September 29, 2017 02:23 PM (mC1ZI)

501 The parallels work in my mind. Thank you business school. This is what you've given me.
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Wow. SJW-ism "New Coke's" every single business they infest.

Look we're NEW and now taste like shit!

Posted by: simplemind at September 29, 2017 02:23 PM (Ps1g/)

502 Oh, and . . . If he's really receiving death threats, has he reported them to the police?

Oh, that's right . . . The entire National Anthem protest thing is ***about police misconduct*** isn't it? (Or, if you prefer, a protest about the person who is currently the Constitutionally elected Chief Executive of the federal government so, basically, the nation's chief law enforcement authority.)

Posted by: filbert at September 29, 2017 02:23 PM (umyKO)

503 What psi is Roger Godell to be inflated to?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 02:24 PM (LjR2k)

504 The NFL is trying to appeal to non-customers by
trying to attract them with leftist signaling while explicitly
abandoning their core audience, their most loyal customers. The people
they are trying to appeal to don't really like the core product anyway,
but the NFL is going to reverse it's slowing trend by pissing off their
base while appealing to those that don't like them anyway.

The parallels work in my mind. Thank you business school. This is what you've given me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at September 29, 2017 02:20 PM
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Really good explanation, and makes far more sense than "supporting our employees" and saying "screw you" to the customers.

However, it's going to bit them in the @ss. Big time.

Posted by: shibumi at September 29, 2017 02:24 PM (aT+Bx)

505 495 "The NFL is trying to appeal to non-customers by trying to attract them with leftist signaling while explicitly abandoning their core audience, their most loyal customers."

They are trying to appeal to people who hate football and intend to ban football.

Good luck with that.
Posted by: Packer Shareholder at September 29, 2017 02:22 PM (xnAyb)

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They certainly are growing the cohort of people who want to ban it, I think.

So...success?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at September 29, 2017 02:24 PM (mC1ZI)

506 166 >>Mel Gibson also deployed the "sugartits" when ranting at a female cop during his infamous DUI.

Quite possibly the best word in the entire world.
Posted by: JackStraw

If the cop didn't want to be called "Sugartits" she should have kept her shirt and bra on, and then not moistened them and dipped them in powdered sugar.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 29, 2017 02:25 PM (kfcYC)

507

CNBC is showing a poll of who does and doesn't support NFL kneelers. Guess what? Non college educated white don't support them but enlightened whites and non white do support them.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 29, 2017 02:25 PM (493sH)

508 "Conduct detrimental to the team" is all the NFL needed to stop Kaepernick. They didn't look forward and lost control.

They could have stopped him immediately. His coach could have told him to hit the showers and never suit up again until he can stand with the team.

See, this is the part nobody seems to want to talk about. The kneelers are a minority, they are not the full team. They are choosing to defy the rest of the team and not stand in unity with their team mates.

But the NFL and the coach and the owners said "meh, its okay, it will appeal to the black fans and players" and here we are.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 29, 2017 02:25 PM (39g3+)

509 The Seattle Snowflakes have the best Jerseys.

Someone should make these jerseys real & sell on Amazon.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 02:25 PM (2zIj5)

510
Agreed. The reported text uses "should" instead of "must" though. Both have very specific definitions in law. The "rule" everyone keeps mentioning isn't actually a rule.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 29, 2017 02:22 PM (UBzPO)

And you just made the point about how lawyers are ruining the game of football

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 29, 2017 02:25 PM (lKyWE)

511 It doesn't though. I'm not trying to pick a fight, I just think facts are important.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 29, 2017 02:23 PM (UBzPO)

HAH!

Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2017 02:25 PM (cAnNx)

512 I'll never get over the specter and sophism of an argument made mostly by black men earning millions of dollars for playing a game, who probably were at restaurants the night before most people couldn't afford and driving cars most people can only dream of owing, that our country is a place where racism is so endemically rampant it almost always crushes equal opportunity and creates an institutionalized prejudice due to someone's race.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 29, 2017 02:26 PM (6fmef)

513
The rulebook does not contain rules. Got it.

Even though I see the word rule twice in the link. Damn my lying eyes...

operations.nfl.com/the-rules/2017-nfl-rulebook/

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 29, 2017 02:26 PM (EgwCt)

514 I know when I first read ace I thought to myself, That's a really rough crowd, I just don't think it's gonna work . Then one day I jumped in and got beat up , I think on immigration, lol, anyway once you see their hardest thrown at you it doesn't hurt as much , you learn every opinion has it's argument, some wise some not so much.

but I no longer cry and slam doors on my way out.

Posted by: willow at September 29, 2017 02:26 PM (FKrah)

515 514 (was to Blubell) sorry bout that.

Posted by: willow at September 29, 2017 02:26 PM (FKrah)

516 Internet rumor is that Allah pundit is Josh Barro who famously once tweeted that the elites, like himself, actually are better than everyone else. The rumor started after AP wrote on Hot Air that he had tweeted about a subject "last night" but the link went to Barro's tweet.
Posted by: Dancing Queen

Barro seems too young to be AP.

Posted by: Dennis at September 29, 2017 02:26 PM (MUi0h)

517 The only rule that comes close is that both teams are to be on the sidelines and ready 10 minutes before the kickoff.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 29, 2017 02:20 PM (39g3+)

Read the Rich Lowry link about it. It links to Time's piece. The NFL rule book is about conduct of the game. The NFL operations manual covers the overall event and conduct of the players. Calling it not a "rule," because it is not in the "rule book" is playing weasely semantics.
Fines, suspension, loss of draft? It's a rule.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 29, 2017 02:26 PM (tbOMB)

518 Y'all talking about MLB and the protests reminds of something someone at my office said about baseball.
Blacks are into football and basketball but not many play baseball anymore (unless they are from Cuba or the Caribbean) American blacks are not into baseball. Not sure if this is true?

Which reminds me of something else D. Prager said yesterday.
The Carib tribe of the Caribbean used to use humans they captured as food -they raised them like livestock for eating!

Posted by: Glenn John at September 29, 2017 02:26 PM (LilNs)

519
What psi is Roger Godell to be inflated to?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 02:24 PM (LjR2k)

Roger Goodells balls are completely deflated

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 29, 2017 02:27 PM (lKyWE)

520 dipped them in powdered sugar.

Never thought of that. Hmmmm. That could work.

Posted by: Masked commenter for obvious reasons at September 29, 2017 02:27 PM (2zIj5)

521 475 Posted by: Jack Sock at September 29, 2017 01:54 PM (N7KlP)

Oh, and Timberlake produces a lot of Matt's stuff.
Posted by: Meremortal merely looking at September 29, 2017 02:19 PM (3myMJ)

That's cool. Just looking at it from afar it seems like that group stayed friends though Spears went off the rail a bit.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 29, 2017 02:27 PM (N7KlP)

522 Post WWII, when Stalin and his shills in the CPUSA were popularizing the idea that Nazism was under the skin of any anti-Marxist and that Marxists were only fighting fascism (sound familiar?), and that Stalin himself was a hero for his opposition to fascism, they tried to move nationalism and patriotism together, so that people would associate the two. And then they could argue that patriotic Americans were "nationalists" just like their National Socialist counterparts in Germany.

Madison rejected the term "nation" because it emphasized birth and a common genetic strain of people, and that it emphasized a sort of brute unity that a Union of sovereign states did not.

If you realize that the main thrust of nationalists was central unity based not on a common understanding of principles, but a mass unity, often based on genetics, we remove a key analogy from the left's playbook to pin liken the diverse right to "Nazis".

Posted by: Axeman at September 29, 2017 02:28 PM (JhE5a)

523 512 I'll never get over the specter and sophism of an argument made mostly by black men earning millions of dollars for playing a game, who probably were at restaurants the night before most people couldn't afford and driving cars most people can only dream of owing, that our country is a place where racism is so endemically rampant it almost always crushes equal opportunity and creates an institutionalized prejudice due to someone's race.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 29, 2017 02:26 PM (6fmef)

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The Democratic Party's been telling them that they're oppressed since childhood.

The Republican Party's just taken it without offering an alternate argument or even showing up to their communities.

Suddenly getting rich doesn't change how they were educated.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at September 29, 2017 02:28 PM (mC1ZI)

524 266 I had heard the expression "Sugar Tits" before what;s his name used it, but that is sure a alcoholic rage induced stupidity-using it on a woman police officer
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

The only other known usage of "Sugartits" was by the Jerky Boys.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 29, 2017 02:28 PM (kfcYC)

525

All the while I was reading the posts here, for years and years, but I was scared of the comments . I got better.

Posted by: bluebell at September 29, 2017 02:11 PM (UoSKV)

Hi Bluebell--I love reading your comments! Lot of insight and very funny.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at September 29, 2017 02:28 PM (TdMsT)

526 The entire National Anthem protest thing is ***about police misconduct*** isn't it?

I'm not even sure what its about any more. Nobody else seems to really know either. Originally Kapernickle said it was about the flag. Then it became about police brutality. Then it became about defying Trump's speech. Then it became about unity.

It has no meaning or significance other than a thumb in the eye of its fans and refusing to back down.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 29, 2017 02:28 PM (39g3+)

527 oh yeah, "muh death threats" is really the last refuge of the liberal asshole as his hateful paroxysms fulminate.

Tell it to Steve Scalise.

Tell it to anyone whose dealt with an anti-fa

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 29, 2017 02:28 PM (XhN8Z)

528 Well said, Ace. And good for Rich Lowry, who I believe practices what he is preaching. He clearly doesn't like Trump personally, but he seems to defend him pretty vigorously when he thinks he's right or does something good. He did not drink the same Never Trump coolaid that most of the rest of NR did or that broken record Allahpundit.

Posted by: Brad at September 29, 2017 02:28 PM (loVRi)

529 514 I know when I first read ace I thought to myself, That's a really rough crowd, I just don't think it's gonna work . Then one day I jumped in and got beat up , I think on immigration, lol, anyway once you see their hardest thrown at you it doesn't hurt as much , you learn every opinion has it's argument, some wise some not so much.

but I no longer cry and slam doors on my way out.
Posted by: willow at September 29, 2017 02:26 PM (FKrah)

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I got turned into a meme one day.

We all go through some rite of passage.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at September 29, 2017 02:28 PM (mC1ZI)

530 Denver Nuggets Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf chose to sit or remain in the locker room during the national anthem in 1995.
He was suspended for one game and agreed to a compromise. He would stand for the anthem with his eyes closed and in prayer. He ended up out of the league, couldn't get signed but could still play.

There was a NBA player in the 70's who tried it too. Got suspended without pay and last one game before giving up and standing.

Posted by: Meremortal merely looking at September 29, 2017 02:28 PM (3myMJ)

531 312 Posted by: West at September 29, 2017 01:39 PM (1Rgee)

Really? That's interesting. if one was a straight man they wouldn't mind another man they loathe blowing them for the sake of dominance ? because I sure as heck wouldn't want some woman i couldn't stand" blowing" me for the sake of my dominance over her The idea is nauseating actually
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 01:46 PM (iVOAv)

That was meant in jest, along the lines of "Sentences That Have Never Been Said" (Please stop sucking my c-ck), and "Never Underestimate The Depravity Of The Moron Horde", but YMMV

I have met some people who would, though (not here); I am trying to forget them.

Posted by: West at September 29, 2017 02:28 PM (1Rgee)

532 Lowry gets some points for slapping down the French/Nordlinger/Goldberg idiocy but I can't help but remember that (a) he keeps that worthless, humourless, patronising, toe-rag Jason Lee Steorts as Managing Editor and (b) is in favour of removing Confederate monuments to appease the unappeasable iconoclasts of the Left.

Posted by: aelfheld at September 29, 2017 02:28 PM (Zy9Yy)

533 514 (was to Blubell) sorry bout that.
Posted by: willow at September 29, 2017 02:26 PM (FKrah)
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Hi willow! Plenty of times I just fade away and go to my "Serenity Now!" place, lol.

Posted by: bluebell at September 29, 2017 02:28 PM (UoSKV)

534 The rulebook does not contain rules. Got it.

Even though I see the word rule twice in the link. Damn my lying eyes...

Yeah. There are two rule books. One that covers game play, ie, holding equals a penalty and x amount of negative yards, and then the operations manual.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 29, 2017 02:28 PM (XMGl9)

535 Roger Goodells balls are completely deflated
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And drained.

Posted by: Shep! at September 29, 2017 02:29 PM (vg8iE)

536 ..."Trumpism Corrupts."

Indeed it does -- but it seems to have primarily corrupted the
NeverTrumpers themselves, who are now taking 180-degree-opposite
positions than they used to claim to believe in just because of the
happenstance that Trump also took that position
One simply cannot say this enough to get through to some people.

Posted by: DocJ at September 29, 2017 02:29 PM (NYS7S)

537 Oh ffs with the death threats.

I mean, when they say "shut up or we'll kill you and your family" and you're a coward and knuckle under, I would think you'd, ya know, actually shut-up... not go and start your own entire network.

Ailes may well have said he'd do something Beck's family wouldn't like it, meaning his ass would get fired.

I also think it's stupid to think that the CJ of the SCOTUS would not have IMMEDIATELY reported any extortion attempts, or threats against his life.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 29, 2017 02:29 PM (CvKkm)

538 but I no longer cry and slam doors on my way out.

Posted by: willow at September 29, 2017 02:26 PM (FKrah)

Nope. You just kill threads.

Posted by: tbodie at September 29, 2017 02:29 PM (8j5Cj)

539 308 Did Malkin get here real start at Townhall?
Posted by: Grump928(C)

Pretty sure Malkin sold Hot Air a long time ago. That was when it started going down hill. IIRC.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 29, 2017 02:29 PM (kfcYC)

540 So the NFL's new value proposition is basically we're with you radical left wing, anti American forces, wink.

Let's see how well that pays the bills.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 29, 2017 02:29 PM (6fmef)

541 dipped them in powdered sugar.

Is this in the Recipe Book?

Posted by: Roland THTG at September 29, 2017 02:29 PM (QM5S2)

542 "The NFL is trying to appeal to non-customers by trying to attract them with leftist signaling while explicitly abandoning their core audience, their most loyal customers."

I think part of the problem is that they think uber lib assholes like Mike Florio are representative of the fan base when in reality he lives a huge bubble.

I refuse to give Florio the clicks by going to Pro Football Talk, but I'm sure his hands are raw from all the pearl clutching since Trump's comments.

Posted by: Benji Carver at September 29, 2017 02:30 PM (OD2ni)

543 step 1. lib asshole does something most hatefilled liberals want to do.

step 2. the rare instance in which they get caught or called out on in.

step 3. GOP siezes upon their entirely understandable misstatement and overplays their hand leading to a backlash.

step 4. In light of backlash, the hatefilled liberal cries of death threats.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 29, 2017 02:30 PM (XhN8Z)

544 If the cop didn't want to be called "Sugartits" she should have kept her shirt and bra on, and then not moistened them and dipped them in powdered sugar
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I may be mis recalling, but I think there was video of this moment. He was ranting at the male cops from the back seat of a cruiser. She opened the door and stuck her head in (other parts too). He did a double take and immediately started with sugar tits, and she couldn't help but laugh. He went from crazy angry to ticked off but amusing in a nano second. She was an AA if I recall it correctly.

The power of boobs.

Posted by: simplemind at September 29, 2017 02:30 PM (ogSGi)

545 The NFL operations manual covers the overall event and conduct of the players. Calling it not a "rule," because it is not in the "rule book" is playing weasely semantics.
Fines, suspension, loss of draft? It's a rule.

Pretty sure the rules are all in the rulebook. Hence the name. The other books as I understand it, are guidelines and structures for play, not official rules as such. For example, they use the word "should" instead of "must."

But again, I'm hardly an expert, so I defer to those who have read both and studied NFL play and rules.

The only reason I bring it up is to keep people from claiming the NFL rule book requires players to stand for the anthem. It doesn't.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 29, 2017 02:30 PM (39g3+)

546 I got turned into a meme one day.

We all go through some rite of passage.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at September 29, 2017 02:28 PM (mC1ZI)
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You got that right. I was unaware until the day after Labor Day that apparently I had been in jail over the weekend and needed bail money. I found this out when i got an email offering to help.

Posted by: bluebell at September 29, 2017 02:30 PM (UoSKV)

547 I was a National Review subscriber since the early '80s. I let my subscription lapse after the Derbyshire kerfuffle.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at September 29, 2017 02:30 PM (tu3iY)

548 225 As for tax cuts I must admit I am somewhat ambivalent.

We aren't cutting spending, so we are just continuing to borrow money. But apparently actually cutting spending, ever, is impossible so....let it burn.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 29, 2017

The tax cuts will cause much growth, which will lead to much more tax revenue, which will be spent, and more besides.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 29, 2017 02:31 PM (kfcYC)

549 tbodie, well they have to die sometime! although I wonder where the dieing posts go to finish themselves off.

Posted by: willow at September 29, 2017 02:31 PM (FKrah)

550 I've been thinking, how responsible is someone for acting on what they think is true, but is really a lie? If NFL players are too stupid to realize that the media *ahem* lies to them, then should we try to be "understanding" and humor them as they spit in our faces? Part of me thinks they are not as bad as the people in the MSM who intentionally lie. But I still don't think they should be humored. If A lies to B that I killed his parents and B tries to kill me, I have right to kill B in self defense. Believing a lie does not mean you shouldn't face consequences for it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 29, 2017 02:32 PM (/qEW2)

551 542 "The NFL is trying to appeal to non-customers by trying to attract them with leftist signaling while explicitly abandoning their core audience, their most loyal customers."

I think part of the problem is that they think uber lib assholes like Mike Florio are representative of the fan base when in reality he lives a huge bubble.

I refuse to give Florio the clicks by going to Pro Football Talk, but I'm sure his hands are raw from all the pearl clutching since Trump's comments.
Posted by: Benji Carver at September 29, 2017 02:30 PM (OD2ni)

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I have a hard time believing that the people who watch football everyday don't realize that the audience is filled with, for lack of a better term, deplorables.

I think the "elite" of the sports broadcasting world are trying to change sports. I don't think that they believe everyone thinks like they do, just that everyone SHOULD think like they do.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at September 29, 2017 02:32 PM (mC1ZI)

552 "Roger Goodells balls are completely deflated
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic "

So I guess former Fox News babe Jane Skinner (his wife) is spending time with Paolo.

Posted by: Benji Carver at September 29, 2017 02:32 PM (OD2ni)

553
As a Christian I have always been uncomfortable with the
pledge and the way people stand up and treat it with respect. Its
almost a prayer to the nation and I've never done it or put my hand on
my heart, etc. I take my hat off and stand out of respect for those who
fought and died for the flag, and for what the nation stands for but
the rest just doesn't sit well with my honor for God.

I don't condemn or look down at people who do so. Its a personal choice, for me.

Posted by: Christopher R. Taylor at September 29, 2017 02:22 PM (39g3+)

In the same boat with you there.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at September 29, 2017 02:32 PM (6JL3d)

554 >>The NFL is trying to appeal to non-customers by trying to attract them with leftist signaling while explicitly abandoning their core audience, their most loyal customers.

Maybe some. But I think they just assumed that they could ram this down our throats and we would take it like we pretty much took it for the 8 years of Obama.

They still haven't figured out that's why we got Trump and if they keep this shit up they are going to keep getting more Trump.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 29, 2017 02:32 PM (/tuJf)

555 Meanwhile, it seems that the Oakland Raiders have gone from "Just win, baby" to "Better kneel, cracker"

Yeah, that's good for team morale right there. Throwing a game in a hissy-fit over the fact that your star QB wouldn't play along with your silly SJW games.

Posted by: DocJ at September 29, 2017 02:32 PM (NYS7S)

556 bluebell, sernity now! place is a must.

I walk outnow , take a walk, do the dishes just learned slamming was useless.

Posted by: willow at September 29, 2017 02:32 PM (FKrah)

557 Can't they just shut the government down for a few months. Maybe people could storm into their own homes and shoot their own dogs for a few weeks.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 02:32 PM (LjR2k)

558 The
word "anthem" does not appear in it. The "rule" everyone is quoting
isn't actually a rule, it's a guideline from the Game Operations Manual
(which isn't public)

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 29, 2017 02:16 PM (UBzPO)

Next, you will be proving, with geometric logic, how many angels can dance on the point of a pin.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 29, 2017 02:32 PM (O848g)

559 I also think it's stupid to think that the CJ of the SCOTUS would not have IMMEDIATELY reported any extortion attempts, or threats against his life.
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Extortion works in cases where the people have something to hide/something to lose.

It has worked for centuries. The mafia was built on it.

Posted by: simplemind at September 29, 2017 02:32 PM (+Npkk)

560 I was a National Review subscriber since the early '80s. I let my subscription lapse after the Derbyshire kerfuffle
===

I used to talk to Derb by email. Interesting conversations and a really nice guy.

He was sacrificed on the PC altar . Like so many others.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 02:32 PM (2wRtc)

561 401 Just an FYI one of the US Soccer players doesn't put his hand over his heart during the Anthem, I never knew why but he's a Jehovah Witness and he stated that his Heart belongs to God, I know nothing about his religion but his explanation is fine with me.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 29, 2017 02:02 PM (dKiJG)
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The hand-on-heart is nice but it is not necessary.
Standing with respectful attention and doffing the hat (if you are male) is all that is required.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 29, 2017 02:32 PM (0jtPF)

562 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 29, 2017 02:22 PM (39g3+)

Do you feel uncomfortable with marriage vows too?

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 29, 2017 02:33 PM (N7KlP)

563 From the Time piece:

NFL Operations Manual
http://time.com/4955704/nfl-league-rulebook-a62-63-national-anthem-rule/
The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game,and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention,
face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking.The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition.It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged
by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country.
Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.

Yeah. It does call for possible punishment.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 29, 2017 02:33 PM (XMGl9)

564 Hi Bluebell--I love reading your comments! Lot of insight and very funny.

In my first weeks of landing here, they were teasing you on one thread about the cookbook, and you were drinking wine, and you were hilarious. They piled on & you handled all of them & I was laughing.

I always like when you show up & comment.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 02:33 PM (2zIj5)

565 What psi is Roger Godell to be inflated to?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 02:24 PM (LjR2k)

Roger Goodells balls are completely deflated

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic

His cranium however - 60psi.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 29, 2017 02:33 PM (fvXIX)

566 I thought "should/shall" is the strongest legal word.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 02:33 PM (XFue2)

567 526 The entire National Anthem protest thing is ***about police misconduct*** isn't it?

I'm not even sure what its about any more. Nobody else seems to really know either. Originally Kapernickle said it was about the flag. Then it became about police brutality. Then it became about defying Trump's speech. Then it became about unity.

It has no meaning or significance other than a thumb in the eye of its fans and refusing to back down.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 29, 2017 02:28 PM (39g3+)

Yes, the ever, changing, goalpost-moving nature of the "protest" reveals what it's really about:

It's a divisive, "us or them" ultimatum aimed squarely at insulting and demeaning the American People as a whole (which is what the National Anthem at the beginning of sports games is intended to honor, regardless of what these maroons try to say what it is.)

Posted by: filbert at September 29, 2017 02:33 PM (umyKO)

568 That's cool. Just looking at it from afar it seems like that group stayed friends though Spears went off the rail a bit.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 29, 2017 02:27 PM (N7KlP)

That squares with the little I've heard about it. Matt is doing great, and doesn't care about performing though he's a great singer. Here he is singing with his father at a Johnny Cash memorial concert. I play bass for his father off and on.

http://bit.ly/2yMNryR

Posted by: Meremortal merely looking at September 29, 2017 02:33 PM (3myMJ)

569 I have a hard time believing that the people who watch football everyday don't realize that the audience is filled with, for lack of a better term, deplorables.

I think the "elite" of the sports broadcasting world are trying to change sports. I don't think that they believe everyone thinks like they do, just that everyone SHOULD think like they do.

*********

It's like Hillary and her hatefilled liberal friends noticed. These "americans" are quite distasteful and we need different ones.

any one of us would get fired for even repeating basic conservative thoughts at a corporate job...so why should the corporate sponsored NFL do the same things about its fans?

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 29, 2017 02:33 PM (XhN8Z)

570 We decided to ditch the ADT alarm system in our house once we cut the cable. I called ADT customer service just now to order up as many free yard signs as I could for free. Queefshonda or some shit helped my out. You know? She was very confidence inspiring. Not.

Glad we're getting rid of them too.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 29, 2017 02:33 PM (mcI77)

571 james, the meme thing is .. well one wants to be noted, I guess, but not so much for the wrong stuff.

Posted by: willow at September 29, 2017 02:33 PM (FKrah)

572 "muh death threats" is really the last refuge of the liberal asshole as his hateful paroxysms fulminate.

I think the kind of death threats and context matter. If someone says "You flthy so-and-so I'm gonna hunt you down and execute you!!!" in an argument, probably not very significant. If someone sends you mail with letters from magazines pasted to a sheet of paper detailing your death, probably should pay it more attention. Getting a phonecall about how someone is going to kill your children while you're forced to watch and a gun being cocked, time to call the cops.

Death Threats online are pretty meaningless now. Everyone gets them, I mean kids are yelling them in online games at each other.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 29, 2017 02:33 PM (39g3+)

573 -
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So has Glen Beck become entombed in his home hoarder collection and cats? I'm just wondering.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 29, 2017 02:10 PM
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He can still reach his whiteboard, where he has meticulously diagrammed the many, many connections the Domino's delivery guy has with George Soros.

Posted by: irright at September 29, 2017 02:34 PM (pMGkg)

574
Do you feel uncomfortable with marriage vows too?

Posted by: Jack Sock
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Fuckin aye, buddy.

Fuckin. Aye.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 02:34 PM (2wRtc)

575 546 I got turned into a meme one day.

We all go through some rite of passage.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at September 29, 2017 02:28 PM (mC1ZI)
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You got that right. I was unaware until the day after Labor Day that apparently I had been in jail over the weekend and needed bail money. I found this out when i got an email offering to help.

Posted by: bluebell at September 29, 2017 02:30 PM (UoSKV)

Did you get busted holding onto willow's pot?

Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2017 02:34 PM (cAnNx)

576 571 james, the meme thing is .. well one wants to be noted, I guess, but not so much for the wrong stuff.
Posted by: willow at September 29, 2017 02:33 PM (FKrah)

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It's not like the horde turned your very name into a verb or anything.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at September 29, 2017 02:35 PM (mC1ZI)

577 You got that right. I was unaware until the day
after Labor Day that apparently I had been in jail over the weekend and
needed bail money. I found this out when i got an email offering to
help.

Posted by: bluebell at September 29, 2017 02:30 PM (UoSKV)

LOL. Ambien can be a real b*tch, eh?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 29, 2017 02:35 PM (8iiMU)

578 431 >>They have Kaepernick's jersey as a doormat in a bar somewhere.

The same place has Marshawn Lynch's jersey right next to it and they are being called racist. Why?

Because they have shirts ordered Lynch Kaepernick so naturally they are implying they think Kaepernick should be lynched.
Posted by: JackStraw

Can't believe no one has printed toilet paper with his Jersey on it. It's not like he's using it.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 29, 2017 02:35 PM (kfcYC)

579 All I can say is, right on, right on, right on!

And ditto on Allahpundit.

Posted by: HammerDog at September 29, 2017 02:35 PM (9M063)

580 Pretty sure the rules are all in the rulebook.
Hence the name. The other books as I understand it, are guidelines and
structures for play, not official rules as such. For example, they use
the word "should" instead of "must."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 29, 2017 02:30 PM (39g3+)

Funny how before CK, AFAIK, players and teams read "should" as "must."

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 29, 2017 02:35 PM (tbOMB)

581 My sticking up my middle finger at you is not a sign of disrespect. It is a Hawaiian good luck sign.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 29, 2017 02:35 PM (IqV8l)

582 I am very disappointed that these three guys turned into such jerks - or that they have always been jerks and I am only now just noticing.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at September 29, 2017 02:35 PM (2VN2E)

583 "They should put Aaron Rodgers jersey next to Kaepenicks to tell the world that they're all for diversity. They hate entitled NFL pricks no matter what their skin color is."

In this order.

kraperdick
rodgers
lynch

See if anyone complains.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at September 29, 2017 02:35 PM (sf2BM)

584 >>> I thought "should/shall" is the strongest legal word.

Shall and should are two different words and mean very different things in contracts.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 29, 2017 02:36 PM (Gmm3n)

585 n the 80s, when Coke was losing market share to Pepsi, Coke executives decided that they needed to do something big and drastic to juice sales. They created a new formula and extensively market researched it. The market research indicated that they'd potentially lose 10% of their customers, but there was serious up side potential to gain sales through new customers.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at September 29, 2017 02:20 PM (mC1ZI)
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And then they learned their lesson and sweetened the Coke on the QT.

Friends of mine found an old wooden carrier of Coke in glass bottles in the back of somebody's cooler and bought it off the store owner. And they did a taste test: cooler Coke with "Coke Classic" a year after the New Coke debacle. All of them could taste that "Coke Classic" was sweeter and did not have as much bite on the back end.

The New Coke incident has since proved to the commodity world that your market research may be right, but public change creates brand disconnects.

Posted by: Axeman at September 29, 2017 02:36 PM (JhE5a)

586 547 I was a National Review subscriber since the early '80s. I let my subscription lapse after the Derbyshire kerfuffle.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at September 29, 2017 02:30 PM (tu3iY)

Derb got shafted. Conservative rags are always oversensitive to certain things, charges of racism being the biggest.

Posted by: joncelli, predenounced for your pleasure at September 29, 2017 02:36 PM (RD7QR)

587 581 My sticking up my middle finger at you is not a sign of disrespect. It is a Hawaiian good luck sign.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 29, 2017 02:35 PM (IqV8l)

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It means peace in the microverse Rick Sanchez made to power his car.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at September 29, 2017 02:36 PM (mC1ZI)

588 I wish to jump in here after finally deciding that the comments in the previous topic were just getting too painful to keep reading. There is so much pain, sorrow, and evil in the world but I try to be as aware of the grace of God as I can. And I also wanted to tell all here at the Horde (who give me much pleasure and knowledge I can never repay) that I pray for you all every day, especially the ones who have been hurt (some so badly it is hard to think on). I also thank the Lord every day for the gift that is my husband of 34 years. He is the love of my life and far more than I deserve.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at September 29, 2017 02:36 PM (aW5/6)

589 Do you feel uncomfortable with marriage vows too?

Having never been married, it doesn't apply. But marriage is specifically a covenant implemented by God, so its a bit different sort of creature.

If I was told to stand at attention to my wife with my hand over my heart and pray to her, yeah I'd be pretty uncomfortable with the idea.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 29, 2017 02:36 PM (39g3+)

590 So the NFL's new value proposition is basically we're with you radical left wing, anti American forces, wink.

Let's see how well that pays the bills.

Maybe they'll rename the NFL Channel to Air America.

Posted by: tu3031 at September 29, 2017 02:37 PM (O5Q3r)

591 How dare you be so hateful and divisive while I have my thumb in your eye and am pissing on your foot!!!!

Posted by: Eleventy at September 29, 2017 02:37 PM (0tN2W)

592

Funny how so many douche bags receive death threats right after they say something really stupid and offensive.

Posted by: Soothie at September 29, 2017 02:37 PM (EzcWp)

593 the james, I know right?

anything notable (hey shush that laughing over there!) I might MIGHT have said is forgotten, but I will always be remembered for shutting down one post after another.

or just remembering to close the last post before typing.
either or. kinda lame.

Posted by: willow at September 29, 2017 02:37 PM (FKrah)

594 It's like Hillary and her hatefilled liberal friends noticed. These "americans" are quite distasteful and we need different ones.
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They are trying to designate you as an 'underclass'. To elevate themselves, but also to give their political coalition a scapegoat class which can later be sent to 'centers' for rehabilitation, work programs. Hunger games style.

Posted by: simplemind at September 29, 2017 02:37 PM (VhmlG)

595 not remembering

Posted by: willow at September 29, 2017 02:38 PM (FKrah)

596 I am very disappointed that these three guys turned into such jerks - or that they have always been jerks and I am only now just noticing.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at September 29, 2017 02:35 PM (2VN2E)
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I think they turned, WitchDoktor. I really think it's them, not us (she said, modestly).

Posted by: bluebell at September 29, 2017 02:38 PM (UoSKV)

597 For the Republic for which it stands.

I think God is very involved in what the Republic is based on.

I do understand though the instruction not to tempt your brother into doing something he may think is a sin even if you don't, but it doesn't say I can't explain why I don't think it is if they indicate it may be.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 29, 2017 02:38 PM (N7KlP)

598 You got that right. I was unaware until the day after Labor Day that apparently I had been in jail over the weekend and needed bail money. I found this out when i got an email offering to help.
Posted by: bluebell at September 29, 2017 02:30 PM (UoSKV)

Did you get busted holding onto willow's pot?
Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2017 02:34 PM (cAnNx)

Ha! That's perfect...linking the 2 memes together.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 02:38 PM (2zIj5)

599 I still follow a few of the NeverTrumpers on Twitter, just so I can see how far gone they are. They still bring up the old "But Trump isn't a conservative!!!!!!!!111!" line....all I can say is, what TruCon legislation passed by Ryan and McConnell has Trump vetoed? Or even Rino-ish legislation? I think at this point, Trump would sign just about anything they gave him, just to get a "win". The GOPe isn't passing ANYTHING, conservative-ish or not, just to spite Trump, and by extension, us. This is maddening. Hoping that the primary season is a bloodbath for the establishment types.

Posted by: Fortunato at September 29, 2017 02:38 PM (3BBcJ)

600 585 The New Coke incident has since proved to the commodity world that your market research may be right, but public change creates brand disconnects.
Posted by: Axeman at September 29, 2017 02:36 PM (JhE5a)

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I think they misread the results.

When your research shows that your most loyal customers will abandon you for a change, leaving much more transient customers in their wake as the base of your support, then it's a bad decision. That's what the market research told them, but they were blinded by the need to DO SOMETHING! which is a feeling that almost always should be tempered.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at September 29, 2017 02:38 PM (mC1ZI)

601 All of them could taste that "Coke Classic" was sweeter and did not have as much bite on the back end.

They switched from cane sugar to corn syrup with the "classic coke" return. I suspect that's what the entire episode was about, disguising a change in the formula.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 29, 2017 02:38 PM (39g3+)

602 We decided to ditch the ADT alarm system in our house once we cut the cable. I called ADT customer service just now to order up as many free yard signs as I could for free. Queefshonda or some shit helped my out. You know? She was very confidence inspiring. Not.

Everyone of those home security commercials it's always whitey trying to break into a home. There's one company called Ring who's commercials are especially annoying

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 29, 2017 02:38 PM (493sH)

603 I have a hard time believing that the people who watch football everyday don't realize that the audience is filled with, for lack of a better term, deplorables.

I think the "elite" of the sports broadcasting world are trying to change sports. I don't think that they believe everyone thinks like they do, just that everyone SHOULD think like they do.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at September 29, 2017 02:32 PM (mC1ZI)
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When it comes right down to it, players in professional sports are entertainers working in a subset of the entertainment industry. Pro players easily mix with Hollywood and fashion celebrities. They often marry one another (see Brady, Tom and Verlander, Justin). Celebrities, by and large, are liberals.

Posted by: mrp at September 29, 2017 02:39 PM (Pqytn)

604 Christopher well we are told to honor eachother.

and I guess be thick as thieves.

Posted by: willow at September 29, 2017 02:39 PM (FKrah)

605 They are trying to designate you as an 'underclass'. To elevate
themselves, but also to give their political coalition a scapegoat class
which can later be sent to 'centers' for rehabilitation, work programs.
Hunger games style.

They all seem to think somehow all of "their people" will end up in The Capital or, at worse, District One.

Since "our people" are the ones with all the guns I somehow doubt that's precisely how it's gonna work out, though.

Posted by: DocJ at September 29, 2017 02:39 PM (NYS7S)

606 Anyone who has ever been involved in the presentation of an athletic event of any significance is aware that in addition to the rules of the game (i.e. The NFL Rulebook) there is also a body of instructions as to how the event as a whole is to be conducted . . . Timelines for when teams come out to practice/warm up, when they go back into the locker room, when the first pitch or whatever happens, when the National Anthem is played, etc., etc. These things are not, in sports parlance, "rules" because "rules" pertain to the actual game itself.

The event management details are specified in something like an NFL Operations Manual.

Posted by: filbert at September 29, 2017 02:39 PM (umyKO)

607 584
>>> I thought "should/shall" is the strongest legal word.

Shall and should are two different words and mean very different things in contracts.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 29, 2017 02:36 PM (Gmm3n)

As in, when you say to Winona, "you should be respectful to me, but first you shall blow me" ?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 29, 2017 02:39 PM (8iiMU)

608 not remembering

Posted by: willow at September 29, 2017 02:38 PM (FKrah)

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Of course you aren't, darling.

Posted by: Pot at September 29, 2017 02:39 PM (vg8iE)

609 osted by: Brunnhilde at September 29, 2017 02:36 PM (aW5/6)

Very nice poss. Thanks for the prayers. I know that I need them and it's great to hear somebody appreciating their spouse. Yes, there's a lot of pain that people have gone through. It's really tough when it's from someone you have loved amd trusted.

When the posts get too angry or personally mean, i just leave.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 02:39 PM (iVOAv)

610 'Mouse' comes from 'musculus,' meaning muscle. If you

If you flex your bicep, it looks like a little mouse.

Posted by: St. George at September 29, 2017 02:39 PM (u0s1P)

611 anyway I think we are incorrigible, not deplorable.

Posted by: willow at September 29, 2017 02:40 PM (FKrah)

612
It must be Damage Control 101 to quickly claim the reception of death threats so you can claim Victim Status AND put a quick to the bombardment of negative feedbackcalling you out for being a tool.

Posted by: Soothie at September 29, 2017 02:40 PM (EzcWp)

613 Brady married Verlander? I knew there was something off about those two.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 29, 2017 02:40 PM (/tuJf)

614 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 29, 2017 02:36 PM (39g3+)

You think the pledge or vow to your country is a prayer. How about an oath?

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 29, 2017 02:40 PM (N7KlP)

615 601 All of them could taste that "Coke Classic" was sweeter and did not have as much bite on the back end.

They switched from cane sugar to corn syrup with the "classic coke" return. I suspect that's what the entire episode was about, disguising a change in the formula.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 29, 2017 02:38 PM (39g3+)

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I refuse to believe that corporate executives are that good at their jobs.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at September 29, 2017 02:40 PM (mC1ZI)

616
Post WWII, when Stalin and his shills in the CPUSA were popularizing the idea that Nazism was under the skin of any anti-Marxist and that Marxists were only fighting fascism (sound familiar?), and that Stalin himself was a hero for his opposition to fascism, they tried to move nationalism and patriotism together, so that people would associate the two. And then they could argue that patriotic Americans were "nationalists" just like their National Socialist counterparts in Germany.

Posted by: Axeman at September 29, 2017 02:28 PM (JhE5a)

Pretty ironic when you remember that the Georgian Ioseb Jughashvili turned out to be quite the rabidly nationalist Russian who's Great Patriotic War propaganda heavily stressed the Russia against the fascists angle, rather than the Soviets against the fascists.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 29, 2017 02:40 PM (veoSD)

617 ok who is Pot under that veggie?

Posted by: willow at September 29, 2017 02:40 PM (FKrah)

618 Tim!

Thanks for freeing Sven from bannination , man.

I have been jonesing for some deeply encrypted comments sprinkled with alien punctuation.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 02:40 PM (2wRtc)

619 Ha! That's perfect...linking the 2 memes together.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 02:38 PM

The memes may be linked, but never crossed.

Posted by: Dr. Egon Spengler at September 29, 2017 02:40 PM (p+Wdc)

620 Rogers went to University of Oregon. Why is anybody shocked on his political leanings?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 02:41 PM (XFue2)

621 National Review, I suspect, has far more allegiance to the chamber of commerce than constitution. I think they believe in tax cuts, not small government. Their conservatism can be summed up in 'that which helps get me rich.'

For a while now, I've increasingly been uncomfortable with how some conservatives seem to think pro-business and pro-free market means pro-megacorporation. Reagan's conservatism was about small businesses, not Citibank.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 29, 2017 02:41 PM (39g3+)

622 609-I meant, personally mean against other posters. I don't think we want to be like the excesses of twitter while on here. I don't anyway I know that people can understandably get angry about the state of the culture and politics right now.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 02:41 PM (iVOAv)

623 593 the james, I know right?

anything notable (hey shush that laughing over there!) I might MIGHT have said is forgotten, but I will always be remembered for shutting down one post after another.

or just remembering to close the last post before typing.
either or. kinda lame.

Posted by: willow at September 29, 2017 02:37 PM (FKrah)

Could be wore. You could be dead.

Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2017 02:41 PM (cAnNx)

624 HFCS is a killer.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 29, 2017 02:41 PM (LjR2k)

625 >>>As in, when you say to Winona, "you should be respectful to me, but first you shall blow me" ?

Proper use: "we should eat all our pancakes before we start up the whoopie machine" vs "the nightgown shall be transparent"

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 29, 2017 02:41 PM (Gmm3n)

626 5 Posted by: lb at September 29, 2017 12:57 PM (Ea9jC) Hot Air used to be my first stop daily, now maybe go there once a week or less and then probably only skim it...

My experience exactly. I don't bother with Hot Air anymore. I wouldn't mind the differences in opinions or perspectives, but the majority of the articles are nothing more than rumor mongering and Trump palace intrigue - most of which turn out to be 100% false.

14 Posted by: geewhiz at September 29, 2017 01:00 PM (ZGFBY) Allahpundit "now-unlinkable"?
What was the final straw, if there was such a one?

For me, it was death by a thousand cuts. I'm just tired of the breathless, excited, "incredible if it's true," this-is-finally-the-scandal-that-will-bring-Trump-down gossiping and peddling of unsourced, unverified and usually untrue gossip. It's not news, it's not information, it's school girl whispering and slam-booking. If Allahpundit and Hot Air have chosen that as their niche, no problem. But it isn't of use or interest to me.

Posted by: azkag at September 29, 2017 02:41 PM (p0wLh)

627 Brunnhilde, Fenelon just said everything I was going to, but she said it first, and better.

Posted by: bluebell at September 29, 2017 02:41 PM (UoSKV)

628 571 james, the meme thing is .. well one wants to be noted, I guess, but not so much for the wrong stuff.
Posted by: willow at September 29, 2017 02:33 PM (FKrah)

I think they just really love & adore you. Men still have little boys within them, and teasing of each other, and girls, is often the highest form of their affection.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 02:42 PM (2zIj5)

629 I wouldn't mind taking my new hash home with me. It has a bit of a Japanese manga feel to it.

"Umiko, look out for the tentacle rape monster!"
"AIEEE!!!"

Posted by: filbert at September 29, 2017 02:42 PM (umyKO)

630 I refuse to believe that corporate executives are that good at their jobs.

Yeah I'm skeptical they can play that long a game, too, but its the only thing that makes any sense of the move.

The other theory I've read is that they were in a dispute with the owner of the original coke theory and wanted to break them of the legal bond, so they went with New Coke but that one doesn't seem to make sense to me.

I just cannot figure out logically why Coca Cola decided to make Pepsi instead.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 29, 2017 02:42 PM (39g3+)

631
Since "our people" are the ones with all the guns I somehow doubt that's precisely how it's gonna work out, though.
Posted by: DocJ at September 29, 2017 02:39 PM (NYS7S)

Communist from West Point seems to want to teach his side about usingguns and certainly Soros/Deep state wouldn't mind.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 02:42 PM (iVOAv)

632 607 584
>>> I thought "should/shall" is the strongest legal word.

Shall and should are two different words and mean very different things in contracts.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 29, 2017 02:36 PM (Gmm3n)

As in, when you say to Winona, "you should be respectful to me, but first you shall blow me" ?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 29, 2017 02:39 PM (8iiMU)

LOL!

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 02:43 PM (XFue2)

633 "Umiko, look out for the tentacle rape monster!"
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WHERE!?!?!

Posted by: K. Eichenwald at September 29, 2017 02:43 PM (vg8iE)

634
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Yup, this was the subject of a case study exercise I was in back in grad school and that was our conclusion

If you get a bottle of Mexican Coca Cola, where can sugar is used, you taste the difference.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at September 29, 2017 02:43 PM (2VN2E)

635 They often marry one another (see Brady, Tom and Verlander, Justin).

Tom Brady married Justin Verlander? I did not know that.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 29, 2017 02:43 PM (XMGl9)

636 Whoever is editing the troll is doing a masterful job.

Posted by: joncelli, predenounced for your pleasure at September 29, 2017 02:43 PM (RD7QR)

637

When that cocksucker rick wilson shot his mouth off, he had no idea most (99%) conservatives disagreed.

He needed to stop the criticism because he was being humiliated and ruined online, so claimed his daughter was getting rape threats.

That put all his critics on the defensive. It's an Old Ploy, almost as old as Online Social Media.

Posted by: Soothie at September 29, 2017 02:44 PM (EzcWp)

638 631 I just cannot figure out logically why Coca Cola decided to make Pepsi instead.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 29, 2017 02:42 PM (39g3+)

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Because they managed the situation through panic.

"Our market share is down! We need to DO SOMETHING!!!"

I don't like to underestimate stupidity from my fellow humans.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at September 29, 2017 02:44 PM (mC1ZI)

639 It's not like the horde turned your very name into a verb or anything.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at September 29, 2017 02:35 PM (mC1ZI)

Yes, but now it suffers some degree of ambiguity as to whether someone fired up a Bob Marley sized spliff or made a comment at the end of a thread.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 29, 2017 02:44 PM (EgwCt)

640 Then one day I jumped in and got beat up , I think on immigration, lol, anyway once you see their hardest thrown at you it doesn't hurt as much , you learn every opinion has it's argument, some wise some not so much.

but I no longer cry and slam doors on my way out.

Posted by: willow

You go girl. You're braver than I am. I'm still crying from the beating.

Posted by: ¡Jeb! at September 29, 2017 02:44 PM (/qEW2)

641 n00d librarian.

Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2017 02:44 PM (cAnNx)

642 Men still have little boys within them

Oh sure. Everyone knows that, particularly men.

The little secret everyone tries to keep is that Women have little girls within them, too.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 29, 2017 02:44 PM (39g3+)

643 buzzion true, yet you Live!

our messiah of the ace times.

although I am still disappointed in the lack ofyour credit card numbers available.

Posted by: willow at September 29, 2017 02:44 PM (FKrah)

644 +Ace

If you haven't seen it yet, Mr. Kristof of the NYT has gone full Duranty on North Korea.

Posted by: WKL at September 29, 2017 02:44 PM (G/6mC)

645 Glenn Beck, while hysterically recuperating from hemorrhoid surgery, promised a Blockbuster expose that was going to blow the lids off the medical and pharmaceutical industries...I'm still waiting...

Posted by: Lord Alfred Hayes at September 29, 2017 02:45 PM (7DG+y)

646 Communist from West Point seems to want to teach his side about usingguns and certainly Soros/Deep state wouldn't mind.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 02:42 PM (iVOAv)

Sure - but the numbers aren't gonna add up for them. I'm surrounded by "true believers" in suburban Boston - they wouldn't grab a gun to defend their pot stash much less their "principles".

Posted by: DocJ at September 29, 2017 02:45 PM (NYS7S)

647 As a Christian I have always been uncomfortable with the

pledge and the way people stand up and treat it with respect. Its

almost a prayer to the nation and I've never done it or put my hand on

my heart, etc. I take my hat off and stand out of respect for those who

fought and died for the flag, and for what the nation stands for but

the rest just doesn't sit well with my honor for God.

I don't condemn or look down at people who do so. Its a personal choice, for me.

Posted by: Christopher R. Taylor at September 29, 2017 02:22 PM (39g3+) ---
In the same boat with you there.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at September 29, 2017 02:32 PM (6JL3d)
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what happened to "...render unto Caesar..." and all that, especially since the pledge has "... one nation, under G*d..." in it these days?

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 29, 2017 02:45 PM (zHXTb)

648 that was one of the talking points used to shut up #gamergate. that the heated criticism those lying journos were getting were "making them feel unsafe". it turned into lies about death threats soon enough.

it is not working so well with #comicgate on account we have records of the comic pros colluding to start a fight.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 29, 2017 02:45 PM (sZ7db)

649 gorilla psst, I think some prefer to love to hate me. but I know I also have a pal or two here.

Posted by: willow at September 29, 2017 02:45 PM (FKrah)

650 Maybe the NFL can stage a Super Bowl halftime show where they have "artists" create a dance routine that mimics Antifa and BLM throwing rocks at the police and burning shops to Beyonce music. . For the grande finale they can have that guy pooping on a police car, while drug dealers are flinging exploding nickel bags into the air. They can follow up with a commemorative coiin, proceeds going to one of George Soros's front groups for paid violent protesters.

You know, to support the oppressed or something.

I mean, since the goal is alienating fans why not do it right?

Posted by: Marcus T at September 29, 2017 02:46 PM (6fmef)

651 new post

Posted by: willow at September 29, 2017 02:46 PM (FKrah)

652 They switched from cane sugar to corn syrup with the "classic coke" return. I suspect that's what the entire episode was about, disguising a change in the formula.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 29, 2017 02:38 PM (39g3+
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I remember most market analysts blaming Coke for not just making the changes behind the scene, and they pretty much said "like everybody else does".

Going by what my friends told me--because it occurred before I knew them. I would say that they learned their lesson and proceeded to make changes in private.

However, some people have since argued that Coke themselves were just trying to create some stir and that they had always planned to re-introduce "old Coke". Thus getting the non-Coke drinkers to try the sweeter "New Coke" and getting their old base back. They drastically increased their market share in the end.

Posted by: Axeman at September 29, 2017 02:46 PM (JhE5a)

653 642 n00d librarian.
Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2017 02:44 PM (cAnNx)

WHERE!??!??

Posted by: Tentacle Rape Monster filbert inadvertently unleashed at September 29, 2017 02:46 PM (umyKO)

654 There. Is. Nothing. Wrong. With. Split. Infinitives. [Pulls out Claymore] En garde!

Correct. The dictum against split infinitives is a rule for *Latin* that people started saying applied to English as well. It does not.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 29, 2017 02:46 PM (jhqr1)

655 We're over 600, so I'm bringing this in:

Did anyone else see the story on Drudge about the downfall of Ain't It Cool News? The original movie geek website?

The site had become largely irrelevant and often unbearable over the years. I only ever went to troll in the comments from time to time. Well, Harry Knowles is apparently a terrible person who likes to grope women and is "stepping away" from the site.

They turned off the comments but turned them back on yesterday for some reason. I got banned from ever commenting again because I was defending Knowles saying that he's a great defender of women because he loved Wonder Woman and voted Democrat.

I didn't see the problem.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at September 29, 2017 02:46 PM (mC1ZI)

656 602 We decided to ditch the ADT alarm system in our house once we cut the cable. I called ADT customer service just now to order up as many free yard signs as I could for free. Queefshonda or some shit helped my out. You know? She was very confidence inspiring. Not.

Everyone of those home security commercials it's always whitey trying to break into a home. There's one company called Ring who's commercials are especially annoying
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 29, 2017 02:38 PM (493sH)

I don't have any signs at my house, just targets plastered all over the garage walls, with 4 inch wide shot groups marked ".45 cal, 45 ft", and ".357 mag, 60 ft".

I'm not always that good of a shot, I just toss all the targets from my off days.

Posted by: West at September 29, 2017 02:46 PM (1Rgee)

657 Posted by: bluebell at September 29, 2017 02:41 PM (UoSKV)

You would have said it better. You wouldn't have had any typos for one thing. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 02:46 PM (iVOAv)

658 Queefshonda or some shit helped my out. You know? She was very confidence inspiring. Not.

At last she's working. It's not her fault the public school system failed her. These are the people we need to be reaching out to. God bless her.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 29, 2017 02:47 PM (CvKkm)

659 602
Everyone of those home security commercials it's always whitey trying to break into a home. There's one company called Ring who's commercials are especially annoying

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 29, 2017 02:38 PM (493sH)

Right? Don't get me started about some of the Mercedes commercials.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 29, 2017 02:47 PM (mcI77)

660 Brunnhilde, Fenelon just said everything I was going to, but she said it first, and better.

Posted by: bluebell at September 29, 2017 02:41 PM (UoSKV)

So, you had a jailhouse conversion?

Cool.

Posted by: tbodie at September 29, 2017 02:48 PM (8j5Cj)

661 "647 Communist from West Point seems to want to teach his side about usingguns and certainly Soros/Deep state wouldn't mind.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 02:42 PM (iVOAv)"

I'll bet Robert E. Lee, (class of 1829) had similar aspirations. We saw how that worked out.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 29, 2017 02:49 PM (6fmef)

662 If you haven't seen it yet, Mr. Kristof of the NYT has gone full Duranty on North Korea.
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Oh for FS - that is unpossible. No sentient human being, no newspaper on earth could be so inside out and upside down.

Its literally like Rich Lowrie is a freaking Prophet.

The will gainsay reflexively anything Trump says. ANYTHING

Posted by: simplemind at September 29, 2017 02:49 PM (gwsZs)

663 I meant FFS

Posted by: simplemind at September 29, 2017 02:49 PM (sA4co)

664 Pkay. Sorry to do this, but I have a cold and feel like crap.

I can't hold a thought, so all I have to any issue is this:

Fuck the Democrats and the Communists. The Republicans will fuck themselves.

Going to crawl into a bottle of cough syrup right now.

LLAP.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 29, 2017 02:49 PM (f7Zy/)

665 659 These are the people we need to be reaching out to. God bless her.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 29, 2017 02:47 PM (CvKkm)

Yes. Bless her heart.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 29, 2017 02:49 PM (mcI77)

666 Shall and should are two different words and mean very different things in contracts.
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That's because "should" is basically the past tense of "shall". Regardless of what you should have done, you did what you did. What you did is the most important fact. We say "shall" while the argument is open and not on the books.

Same way that what somebody "can" do matters more while it's a "can" than a "could". And that what some body wills to do matters more while it's a will than a would.

Posted by: Axeman at September 29, 2017 02:51 PM (JhE5a)

667 So, you had a jailhouse conversion?

Cool.
============
Prison does tend to concentrate the mind. Unless you're a guy - Like OJ Simpson.

Posted by: simplemind at September 29, 2017 02:51 PM (8BlrI)

668 >>>That's because "should" is basically the past tense of "shall".

This is not correct in the sense of contracts. Per ISO, "shall" indicates a requirement; "should" indicates a recommendation. It has nothing to do with tenses.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 29, 2017 02:53 PM (Gmm3n)

669 Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 29, 2017 02:53 PM (Gmm3n)

Thanks, beat me to it. Also applies to legislation: also see "may" and "must".

Posted by: West at September 29, 2017 02:57 PM (1Rgee)

670 Correct. The dictum against split infinitives is a rule for *Latin* that people started saying applied to English as well. It does not.
Posted by: bonhomme at September 29, 2017 02:46 PM (jhqr1)
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True, but English was systematized by reference to Latin. There was no grammar, until English was reformed to Latin-ized grammar and pronunciation. (And kings talked like Cockneys.) So for a time, it seemed important to not split what could not be split in Latin (because it simply was an ending.)

I make can an statement no properness yets unnerstanableness is contayned. Propriety is not about what can be done, but what is within the system.

Posted by: Axeman at September 29, 2017 02:58 PM (JhE5a)

671 Oh, and when they established "proper pronunciation" (from Latin), then they could systematize phoenetical spelling.

Posted by: Axeman at September 29, 2017 03:00 PM (JhE5a)

672 "We're not protesting the flag or anthem just police brutality" they claim. Bullshit.

Let's go back the first words spoken by the movement's messiah after his first protest, in which he sat instead of knelt.

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a FLAG for a country that oppresses black people and people of color." FULL STOP

Next Sentence:
"To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."

He added that he would continue to protest until he feels like "[the AMERICAN FLAG] represents what it's supposed to represent".

So in summary, was he concerned about and wanted to bring attention to police brutality? YES, but...

He explicitly says he's protesting the flag because America doesn't represent what he thinks it should.

Posted by: bif at September 29, 2017 03:01 PM (aiyac)

673 First, I don't think the NFL protesting that began during this preseason had anything to do with police brutality. I say this because those players that took the knee during preseason had reasons all over the board when asked why they were doing it. It was a show of defiance against the "other".

For the Seattle Seahawks, Michael Bennett who has been known for showing his dimwittedness and emotional issues with weird comments which were always laughed off by local sports media, took it upon himself to kneel without talking to his coach, or team. Doesn't sound like unity to me.

This last year there were two things Bennett said that were obvious attempts to race bait but were swept under the rug as just Bennett being crazy Bennett. 1) His announcement that he would be releasing a book entitled "What's bothering white people", and 2) He said the reason for Kapernic not being in the NFL was due to those that live in middle America being racists.

So for me, this kneeling is about giving the middle finger to the white middle of America and by representation Trump. Sounds like they are mimicking the second black president with Bill Clinton being the first black president. Just ask Bill.

Posted by: Ceasar at September 29, 2017 03:02 PM (x8dHd)

674 Jay Nordlinger once wrote that he was embarrassed by the impeachment of Bill Clinton.

The cocktail parties must have been just a fright for him at the time, poor dear.

Posted by: Kensington at September 29, 2017 03:06 PM (Cw3TC)

675 "So I guess Ace won't reading Nordlinger's 10 article series about his next trip to Salzburg."
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Oh they were just a soupcon, really!

Posted by: Jay Nordlinger at September 29, 2017 03:08 PM (Cw3TC)

676 Ah, you figured out Allahpundit is no good. Now maybe, stop citing NeverTrump central Hot Air as a go to source.

Read more Thomas Wictor.

Posted by: Rodney C. Johnson at September 29, 2017 03:08 PM (A5STV)

677 Thanks for bringing Ace's previous postings on RoN to my attention, Alberta Oil Peon.

I still consider NR worth reading. I just filter out the anti-Trump stuff. Mostly because it sounds like a broken record recorded by Captain Obvious.

Posted by: Sweet Lou at September 29, 2017 03:08 PM (4DuI9)

678 Did night owl/day walker NGU's orders to Comfort get modified for him to join her going to Puerto Rico?

Posted by: Fox2! at September 29, 2017 03:10 PM (brIR5)

679 Ace, your Pod with Jonah 3 or so years ago was great.

Definitely miss the AceofSpades podcast.

Posted by: ryan at September 29, 2017 03:11 PM (blRcL)

680 526 I'm not even sure what its about any more. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Most of them are protesting "Make the scary man stop hurting my widdle feewings!" It's heroic--when you think about it(tm).

Good analysis of Trump, also--though I'd give him a higher grade. And I was once anti-Trump, too. Of course, it's bigger than just Trump.

And, yes, its forgotten that Reagan was an outsider, too.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 29, 2017 03:14 PM (Ndje9)

681 Still don't care much for Trump; although happy he is President and Hillary never will be. But am starting to appreciate some of his comments which actually are believed by average Americans and drives liberals and some conservatives crazy. Wish he would find a happy medium with how he expresses his thoughts. Little less street talk and a little more Reagan like.

Posted by: YatYas at September 29, 2017 03:43 PM (xN9Un)

682 Allahpundit has been unlinkable for years. People still did it, though.

Posted by: hoodaticus at September 29, 2017 04:17 PM (vitRc)

683 I was a VERY early Hotair fan.

AP's nervertrumpism is insufferable.

The site now is boring and easily avoidable. Jazz still writes up some interesting content but that's about it. The forced FB comment section was the last straw for me and when I bailed out.

Posted by: aquaviva at September 29, 2017 04:18 PM (E7ITv)

684 @683

On principle I avoid clicking on sites that removed or limited their comment sections, or that expressed their hatred of them prior to opening a new site without them (like Erickson's Repugnant).

Posted by: hoodaticus at September 29, 2017 04:22 PM (vitRc)

685 I'm ready for this week to end. Took a birdstrike flying from Port Fouchon and glass went everywhere, including into my face. Had to RTB and have an ER nurse in Houma pick out with tweezers about 20 little shards that barely missed my eyes. The helo needs about $6,000 in repairs. I look like a complete disaster, but I'll return to flying next week.

Then my "new" Infiniti had a tire blow on I-12 and I had limp on the spare to Hammond.

So yes, this week needs to end ASAP.

As for Conservative Inc., I tired of the speed bump, bend but eventually break and tell us that it was an honorable defeat in the cultural civil war with the Left approach espoused by the Natty Review and other "proper" (read toothless and housebroken) establishment outlets. I used to read Red State and HotAir, but they started to annoy me with the #NeverTrumper nonsense. I found this place and the Horde much more to my liking. Ace, thanks for giving deplorables like me a place to call home.

Posted by: Grizzledcoastie at September 29, 2017 04:35 PM (FMgad)

686 There is no way Nordlinger actually gets paid to work there, right? He must know people who give money to NR. I can't believe Lowry would actually choose to employ Nordlinger.

Posted by: bjstuggz at September 29, 2017 05:01 PM (e44Qj)

687 Great blast, Ace. Balm to the true conservative soul. Gave up my subs to NR/WS a couple years ago and have never looked back. Goldberg has been a big disappointment considering the quality of a couple of books he produced a decade or so ago. The arrogance of these people. Ya know, if you can't say anything nice about your own side, you are already a member of the other side. To hell with all of them.

Posted by: Tom Scott at September 29, 2017 06:51 PM (9/QQm)

688 I was hoping some of the names you mentioned would realize you go to war with the army you HAVE, not the army you want. Many never trumpers have been admirably neutral mostly on DJT and continue to fight the left. (Loashe, SMiller, BShapiro) Yet way too many might as well take a knee with BLM.

Posted by: Count Floyd at September 30, 2017 01:30 AM (q4ZBL)

689 I used to enjoy Jay Nordlinger's columns which were almost entirely about music and the creators and makers of. I don't know when he became political since I have long since stopped ever going to NRO or any of its writers. Sometimes there will be an interesting Goldberg headline on another site but I just won't give him the click count.

Posted by: Henry Lee at September 30, 2017 08:39 AM (c/+wS)

690 Holy crap. Nice take down.

I haven't gone to NRO for a very long time now. It happened naturally when they revealed how unhinged they are now.

Sad.

Most of them need a long holiday. A year, two, three.

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