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Update to Last Story: Xavier Beccerra Turned Over a Fake Server to Investigators

I... completely missed this. It's in Luke Rosiak's article, but my brain put the words together to say Imran Awan provided the fake server image to the police.

But it wasn't Imran Awan. It was Xavier Beccerra, former US Representative, current California AG.

From The American Thinker, quoting Luke Rosiak's piece and commenting on it:

California's illegal alien-supporting attorney general, Xavier Becerra, has been curiously silent about that fake server he handed over to cops to obstruct their Imran Awan investigation, according to a new report from the Daily Caller. The broader scandal was outlined in this piece by Thomas Lifson yesterday.

Becerra's role is worth noting because he is considered top Democratic talent, a Democratic Party star, with many Democratic leadership positions, including a seat on the House Ways and Means committee, chairmanship of the House Democratic Caucus (now at the center of the Imran Awan secret server scandal) and lately a post as the California state attorney general, where he is leading the state's effort to stop President Trump from ending the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals executive order.

He shows a pattern as one gamy player, not the least because of his fake server role in the House server scandal associated with the Awan Pakistani tech family and former Democratic National Committee chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

According to the Daily Caller News Foundation:

On Jan. 24, 2017, Becerra vacated his congressional seat to become California's attorney general. "He wanted to wipe his server, and we [a 'senior official'] brought to his attention it was under investigation. The light-off was we asked for an image of the server, and they deliberately turned over a fake server," the senior official said.

A fake server? Wouldn't that take some serious planning? How long and how much effort would it take to construct fake server? What kind of information, then, was on the real server, the one former congressional I.T. aide Imran Awan made off with and maybe handed over to hostile intelligence sources for big money? Why would Becerra hand over a fake server instead of angrily get to the bottom of what could easily be called a betrayal of the House Democratic Caucus, which Becerra led, by bad actors?

And more to the point, why is he clamming up, even as he stays noisily in the public view?

If you want answers, don't fear: Jake Tapper may be pressured into maybe mentioning something about this on his Twitter feed, to the delight of his subRight Gimp fanbois.

Thanks to @comradearthur for pointing this out.

Posted by: Ace at 01:41 PM




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1 And so it begins

Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's beginning at September 14, 2017 01:42 PM (QQ+il)

2 It's probably all about hiding their weird porn habits.

Posted by: wooga at September 14, 2017 01:44 PM (q1q2l)

3 Seems like old news to me. The media should better spend their time on more temporally relevant matters. Like Russia's involvement in the Trump campaign.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 14, 2017 01:44 PM (KUaJL)

4 I really hope Sessions is perusing this with a Red Bull rage instead of sitting in his office picking his feet.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 14, 2017 01:44 PM (mcI77)

5 I though I got a virus and was scared!
When I went to stand up my pants fell down a little and I was pulling them up!

Posted by: Xavier Beccerra at September 14, 2017 01:45 PM (q1q2l)

6 Seems like old news to me.
================

it is old news. And also, a local crime story. And, squirrel!

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 14, 2017 01:45 PM (ylUqT)

7 I'll take the "Democrats are a subversive organization who deliberately acts against American interests" for $20.00 Alec.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 14, 2017 01:45 PM (9xpg1)

8 Damn it. Sonobi is always First!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2017 01:45 PM (p+Wdc)

9 >>>>>I... completely missed this. It's in Luke Rosiak's article, but my brain put the words together to say Imran Awan provided the fake server image to the police.
.
.
.Oh my aching a$$. Houston we have a friggin serious problem.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 14, 2017 01:45 PM (Vz9Up)

10 I'd rather ramble on about TV comedies but I have lunch to get.

And fake servers would take a couple of hours to image, if you want to add fake content....that might take more time and planning.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 14, 2017 01:46 PM (xJa6I)

11 Apropos of nothing, today is the 150th anniversery of the publishing of Das Kapital vol I.

Someone could write a thread about this Wave of the Future what works.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 14, 2017 01:46 PM (QQ+il)

12 And so it begins
Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's beginning





And do it ends...

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2017 01:46 PM (8oSoU)

13 Any one of us would rot in prison for this.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at September 14, 2017 01:46 PM (sWyPd)

14 It's probably all about hiding their weird porn habits.

"To serve files"
IT'S A KINKBOOK! IT'S A KINKBOOK!

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 14, 2017 01:46 PM (HtLSE)

15 "Xavier Beccerra Turned Over..."


Man, I loved her in Firefly.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2017 01:46 PM (TOk1P)

16 It was an Acme server.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 14, 2017 01:46 PM (IqV8l)

17 burn it all down

Posted by: Bored383 at September 14, 2017 01:47 PM (70HTk)

18 Sorry. Right now Jake Tapper is getting hair coloring lessons from Jim Acosta and is unavailable for comment.

But he will mention it obscurely in his Twitter feed so he can say he "covered it".

Ass.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 14, 2017 01:48 PM (9xpg1)

19 And fake servers would take a couple of hours to image, if you want to add fake content....that might take more time and planning
=====================

and people who knew how to image a server, and then delete some directories. It took planning, execution and after-the-fact testing.

This is whatchacall a "criminal conspiracy". Old fashioned word applied to standard Democrat operational procedure maybe, but still a

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 14, 2017 01:49 PM (ylUqT)

20 More hating on Brown People.

Posted by: Roland THTG at September 14, 2017 01:49 PM (QM5S2)

21 Damn it. Sonobi is always First!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2017 01:45 PM (p+Wdc)


This was a running gag this past weekend, before I got to work, where I don't control the ad blocking. Good grief... has this been addressed by management? What the heck, man. What the flipping heck.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2017 01:49 PM (TOk1P)

22 So... Xavier Beccerra has a 3-D printer?

Posted by: kraken at September 14, 2017 01:50 PM (zSVEm)

23 OT: Light 2.6 magnitude earthquake was logged in Las Colinas, Tx this morning. (Between Dallas & Irving)

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2017 01:50 PM (8oSoU)

24 Charge him with treason.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at September 14, 2017 01:50 PM (rhowD)

25 In a non insane world the Governor Jerry wouldn't even need to ask for his resignation. Now, neither offered nor asked.

Posted by: GregV61 at September 14, 2017 01:50 PM (MoJlY)

26 I would like to believe this will go somewhere.... Just not optimistic...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 14, 2017 01:50 PM (O2RFr)

27 Where's Sonobi!?

Posted by: Paul Anka at September 14, 2017 01:50 PM (onDmy)

28 It wasn't fake fake. It was an inadvertent incorrect facsimile .

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 14, 2017 01:50 PM (P7ulB)

29 Why an image? For investigative purposes, I want the disks. The owner can keep the images.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 14, 2017 01:50 PM (QQ+il)

30 as I said in last thread, None of the Dems will be helpful as they are All compromised by their own disgusting criminality and graft

Posted by: willow at September 14, 2017 01:51 PM (FKrah)

31 Where's Sonobi!?
Posted by: Paul Anka at September 14, 2017 01:50 PM (onDmy)

Sneaking, always sneaking...

Posted by: kraken at September 14, 2017 01:51 PM (zSVEm)

32 >>Good grief... has this been addressed by management?


It has.

Ace says it's be fixed in #2Weeks.

Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2017 01:51 PM (onDmy)

33 A server? Like Rochester?

Posted by: hillary (. ) (' ) at September 14, 2017 01:51 PM (mJ8mX)

34 (1) Imagine how dangerous these people would be if they were competent?

(2) Hillary is a combination of ignorance, arrogance, incompetence, greed, wrath, and vengeance - thus she is the perfect poster child for the Democrats.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Signal Your Virtue with The Denunciator Denouncing Device from The Outrage Outlet! at September 14, 2017 01:51 PM (hLRSq)

35 Surely this is the most important issue of the day and not, say, Trump selling out his voters and signing onto full amnesty for illegals with Pelosi and Schumer despite his campaign promises.

Hey, everybody! Shiny object!

Posted by: Guy who says the obvious thing we're all thinking at September 14, 2017 01:51 PM (KkGSD)

36 Willowed, a comment from 4Chan /pol/

"This has already happened 100 times and there are not "many people" in jail.

None of this matters if they don't ACTUALLY get arrested.

We all know they are criminals. We all know they need to be locked up.

And yet, they are all walking free just like they would if Hillary won."

Posted by: shibumi at September 14, 2017 01:52 PM (aT+Bx)

37 It never ends...

Posted by: Hikaru at September 14, 2017 01:52 PM (XMDuf)

38 I'm so old I remember when obstruction of justice meant jail time.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at September 14, 2017 01:52 PM (hMwEB)

39 Surely this is the most important issue of the day and not, say, Trump selling out his voters and signing onto full amnesty for illegals with Pelosi and Schumer despite his campaign promises.

Be sure and let us know when that happens.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 14, 2017 01:52 PM (QQ+il)

40 Fake, fake, fake

Posted by: Elaine benes at September 14, 2017 01:52 PM (7HtZB)

41 I don't have a comment here, but I thought of a sock, so that's all I have.

Sorry.

Posted by: RICO Suave at September 14, 2017 01:52 PM (u0s1P)

42 (KkGSD)
You are entirely full of shit.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 14, 2017 01:53 PM (HtLSE)

43 I'm watching you.

Posted by: Sonobi at September 14, 2017 01:53 PM (OD2ni)

44 None of the Dems will be helpful as they are All compromised by their own disgusting criminality and graft
----

Also... None of the Republicans will be helpful as they are All compromised by their own disgusting criminality and graft

/added for accuracy.

Posted by: shibumi at September 14, 2017 01:53 PM (aT+Bx)

45 oh i'm sorry, ace doesn't have address that and write about how trump really is just a lying piece of shit who is using the GOP name to accomplish the Dems' dearest objective, because co-bloggers already discussed it in passing in a late night thread!

my bad.

Posted by: Guy who says the obvious thing we're all thinking at September 14, 2017 01:53 PM (KkGSD)

46 My sister had a Cabbage Patch doll, when we were kids. The name 'Xavier' was sewn on its butt.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 14, 2017 01:53 PM (/qEW2)

47 Maybe the "server" is a back up. A hard drive or DVD's or even thumb drives with data.

Cuz' that's what I'd do. Back up some ubiquitous data and hand it over. Then skip town.

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at September 14, 2017 01:53 PM (jAZR9)

48 He's perfect for California.

Posted by: Max Power at September 14, 2017 01:54 PM (q177U)

49 IC members don't arrest and put in jail other IC members.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 14, 2017 01:54 PM (XFue2)

50 Democrats lie to congress ... never matters. Fast and Furious, Holder lied, two years later he corrected his testimony. Nothing happens as they give guns to cartels, or Lynch covers a couple billion in drug money laundering by HSBC ... they just keep doing it ... at worst it gets a little coverage.

So we take the house, senate, WH, governorships, ... but the deep state crooked bureaucracy still acts like the mob is running the show.

Maybe it just takes a little time. This is not "criminalizing politics" as Dershowitz calls it (as he conflates Trump/Russia with Hillary real crimes). It is using political office for high crimes, and dirty cops covering it up, and a seditious/treasonous bureaucracy "resisting".

Posted by: illiniwek at September 14, 2017 01:54 PM (yKAUL)

51 Nothing will come of it. Nothing ever does.

Posted by: JuJuBee at September 14, 2017 01:54 PM (2NqXo)

52 Yeah. Trump and I are the exact same.

Posted by: hillary (. ) (' ) at September 14, 2017 01:54 PM (mJ8mX)

53 I fund it amazing that none of the people in Congress affected by this, including CA AG Becerra, who was the first Congressman to hire Imran Awan, have not even a smidgen of outrage over this.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 14, 2017 01:55 PM (W+vEI)

54 It's not the crime but the ______-__

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 14, 2017 01:55 PM (Lsg+N)

55 "Surely this is the most important issue of the day and not, say, Trump selling out his voters and signing onto full amnesty for illegals with Pelosi and Schumer despite his campaign promises."

See? See? I told you that you should have voted for me! I would have FULFILLED my campaign promises to make deals with Pelosi and Schumer!!!

Posted by: John F'ing Kasich at September 14, 2017 01:55 PM (k1TUh)

56 What I miss most is how our so-called leaders would try to fake dignity in public.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Signal Your Virtue with The Denunciator Denouncing Device from The Outrage Outlet! at September 14, 2017 01:55 PM (hLRSq)

57
Spy v spy? Bernie Bots v Hillary Crime Syndicate?

Other actors? I remember when the MSM used to be interested in the 'inside baseball' side of politics. But since it all turned criminal I guess they don't want to get to curious.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 14, 2017 01:55 PM (EgwCt)

58 Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's beginning at September 14, 2017 01:42 PM (QQ+il)

I'm kind of a super fan boy of yours.

A Sono-fanboi

Posted by: Max Power at September 14, 2017 01:55 PM (q177U)

59 "Posted by: RICO Suave"


I always the infamous Paolo looking like Rico Suave.

Posted by: Benji Carver at September 14, 2017 01:55 PM (OD2ni)

60 38 I'm so old I remember when obstruction of justice meant jail time.
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at September 14, 2017 01:52 PM (hMwEB)

Same here.

But hey, Lois Lerner walks, Hillary skated, Ted Kennedy too. Why change tradition

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 14, 2017 01:56 PM (jxbfJ)

61 Beccera is the POS who brought 14 charges and 1 felony charge against those who recorded-taped the Planned Parenthood monsters.

Posted by: Cheri at September 14, 2017 01:56 PM (oiNtH)

62 illiniwek , maybe they are the mob. although I thought the mob had some class and drew lines where not to tread.

but seiu so>?

Posted by: willow at September 14, 2017 01:56 PM (FKrah)

63 Posted by: Guy who says the obvious thing we're all thinking at September 14, 2017 01:53 PM (KkGSD)

You're rambling.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 14, 2017 01:56 PM (P7ulB)

64 cheri wow!

Posted by: willow at September 14, 2017 01:56 PM (FKrah)

65 "It is using political office for high crimes, and dirty cops covering it up, and a seditious/treasonous bureaucracy "resisting"."

It's called "Washington", son.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 14, 2017 01:56 PM (k1TUh)

66 Sounds like prison time. Oh, wait, I didn't see the ( D ) at first.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 14, 2017 01:56 PM (7ZVPa)

67 It would appear that everything that Awan had was backed up on Dropbox.

Um... maybe someone can subpoena Dropbox for the files?

Or have they already been Bleach Bit?

Posted by: shibumi at September 14, 2017 01:56 PM (aT+Bx)

68 It's not the crime but the ______-__
It's not the crime but the u g g s - i m a g e ???

Posted by: andycanuck at September 14, 2017 01:56 PM (mJ8mX)

69 :
:::aul Ryan quietly awaits his cue from Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi.::::

Posted by: 13times at September 14, 2017 01:57 PM (WHVu+)

70 >>It's probably all about hiding their weird porn habits.

Uh yeah, that's it. WHat did the Seattle mayor just resign for - having his **5th** child rape victim come forward? Porn is the most innocent possibility with the current crew of Dems.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 14, 2017 01:57 PM (W+vEI)

71 he should have fired everyone.

Posted by: willow at September 14, 2017 01:57 PM (FKrah)

72 What is it about democrats and their servers?

Whatever they are doing, they are going to extreme lengths to keep it a secret.

Something is rotten in Denmark.

Posted by: Boots at September 14, 2017 01:57 PM (EBwPV)

73 "Um... maybe someone can subpoena Dropbox for the files?"

Just call ISIS and ask them for a copy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 14, 2017 01:57 PM (k1TUh)

74
My IP address at home not only won't let me post comments here, it also now doesn't even give me access to AoSHQ. Did I get one of the cobs angry at me? Or is it a consequence of having a Wet Newsprint membership?
Can I plump for a pardon? Or is it only well-connected insiders who get them?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 14, 2017 01:57 PM (BWL+E)

75 because co-bloggers already discussed it in passing in a late night thread!
Co-bloggers discussed in the ONT, and was teh whole topic of conversation for both borning threads before GorillaPundit, and was continued in GorillaPundit, but sure, you do you.

Because clearly Ace has to preempt what he was already intended to post first thing and respond with a hair-on-fire post based on unknowns, and (according to you) include a salient fact which is nothing more than a lie.

Your shinebox. Get it.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 14, 2017 01:57 PM (HtLSE)

76 oh i'm sorry, ace doesn't have address that and write about how trump really is just a lying piece of shit who is using the GOP name to accomplish the Dems' dearest objective, because co-bloggers already discussed it in passing in a late night thread!
Your concern is :

[ ] Noted
[ ] Not Noted
[X] Fuck off

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at September 14, 2017 01:58 PM (vmsda)

77 70 >>It's probably all about hiding their weird porn habits.

Uh yeah, that's it. WHat did the Seattle mayor just resign for - having his **5th** child rape victim come forward? Porn is the most innocent possibility with the current crew of Dems.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 14, 2017 01:57 PM (W+vEI)

I am so done with this "Rules for thee but not for me" shit.

I want them all to get the Chair.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 14, 2017 01:58 PM (XMDuf)

78 Hillary turned over her server ... after it was bleachBit ... and she chuckled about it. Allegedly the NSA offered the deleted emails to Comey, he had no interest (he was busy drafting her absolution, evidence just a nuisance)

Posted by: illiniwek at September 14, 2017 01:58 PM (yKAUL)

79 All it will take is for the FBI (haha I know) to arrest the right person.

Idk who that person is but if they do (haha I know) this whole thing will start to unravel and then the truth will come out (haha I know).

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at September 14, 2017 01:58 PM (hS07U)

80 Michael Walsh at PJ Media has long said that the Democrat Party is a criminal organization masquerading as a political party.

I can think of no better description.

Posted by: LGoPs at September 14, 2017 01:59 PM (LCK6a)

81 My IP address at home not only won't let me post comments here, it also
now doesn't even give me access to AoSHQ. Did I get one of the cobs
angry at me? Or is it a consequence of having a Wet Newsprint
membership?

Can I plump for a pardon? Or is it only well-connected insiders who get them?
---

If you have Firefox, try HOXX. It's a VPN.

My ISP has been caught in a ban a few times, and you can work around it with a VPN.

Then, one day, you'll be able to post.

It's a mystery.

Posted by: shibumi at September 14, 2017 01:59 PM (aT+Bx)

82 hmm, misreading an artifcle? Looks like someone missed the true meaning of 1984 and doesn't trust the certified class.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at September 14, 2017 01:59 PM (DQdye)

83 74
My IP address at home not only won't let me post comments here, it also now doesn't even give me access to AoSHQ. Did I get one of the cobs angry at me? Or is it a consequence of having a Wet Newsprint membership?
Can I plump for a pardon? Or is it only well-connected insiders who get them?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 14, 2017 01:57 PM (BWL+E)

Have you turned " safe search" off?

Posted by: kraken at September 14, 2017 01:59 PM (zSVEm)

84 I always the infamous Paolo looking like Rico Suave.

I assumed Paolo was Italian, dunno why.

And wasn't Rico Suave's real name something like "Gerard Butler" or something? Too lazy to look up.

Anyway, criminal conspiracy -> RICO their asses.

That's all I have. No real wit, no real snark, or insight, or anything clever. Just a basic boring comment.

With a side of super-lame explanatory bullshit, because that's how I roll.

Posted by: Lance McCormick, ex-Shinobi at September 14, 2017 01:59 PM (u0s1P)

85 real server, the one former congressional I.T. aide Imran Awan made off with and maybe handed over to hostile intelligence sources for big money?

+++

Understand who he was working directly for. What her position was. The DNC servers are mostly concerned with Election politics and donors. This is not a thing of especial interest to foreign powers.

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 14, 2017 02:00 PM (Lsg+N)

86 What strikes me about the whole thing is the absolutely charming civility of the investigation ... they asked for a copy of the server ? What happened to the midnight raid to seize the servers that we have seen in other cases ?
I've noticed this in other cases, too.
Sometimes Democrats are so confident that they even refuse to turn things over, and nothing happens to them.

Curiouser and curiouser !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at September 14, 2017 02:00 PM (Umfx1)

87 Metadata is the key.

The second server would have metadata showing when the information on the drive was created/added/revised.

Idiot probably copied the safe material over to the second server without ever considering that it was date stamped in metadata form.

Smells like someone's ass is already in the barbecue.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 14, 2017 02:00 PM (ATVNj)

88 Let's be clear, the concern troll is asking us to accept at face value a lie about the site and cobs in service of promulgating his own MUH NEVERTRUMP lie and castigating *Ace* for dishonesty.

That's really what just happened, folks.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 14, 2017 02:00 PM (HtLSE)

89 KkGSD

Who the fuck is this person....?

Posted by: Witchdoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at September 14, 2017 02:00 PM (eytER)

90 The Founders would have already shot a bunch of people.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at September 14, 2017 02:00 PM (HKM9P)

91 Or on? Are you in a Blue State// City?

Posted by: kraken at September 14, 2017 02:00 PM (zSVEm)

92 Imagine how dangerous these people would be if they were competent?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Signal Your Virtue with The Denunciator Denouncing Device from The Outrage Outlet! at September 14, 2017 01:51 PM (hLRSq)

My late Stepfather was a county judge for over 20 years, and before that a prosecutor. He had a lot of experience dealing with crime and criminals. According to him, the saving grace of civilization is that most criminals are incredibly stupid.

Posted by: troyriser at September 14, 2017 02:00 PM (Fw5cQ)

93 "Um... maybe someone can subpoena Dropbox for the files?"


---
Just call ISIS and ask them for a copy.
--

Or we can simply ring up "Pocheysthan." Pretty sure they have EVERYTHING, plus more.

Posted by: shibumi at September 14, 2017 02:00 PM (aT+Bx)

94 I do enjoy it when Ace focuses on the real problem...

It doesn't matter what the story du jour is, the reason people do bad things and get away with them is our lazy, bias, incompetent press. By continuing at every available opportunity to call out someone who has the position and visibility to make a difference and who doesn't for partisan reasons, Ace is fighting the fight that needs to be won.

Keep at it, 'lil fella.

Posted by: jwest at September 14, 2017 02:00 PM (Zs4uk)

95 And now we know part of why DWS was all-in on breaking every damned rule and norm she could to get Hillary elected--this was all supposed to go away on January 20, 2017.

And this is what makes the Sessions recusal so damned damaging--that dumb fuck didn't just take himself and the DOJ out of one investigation, he damned near took them out of the whole game altogether!!

How many months have we wasted on the Russia bullshit while they've been working to cover this up?

Almost a year now!!

Posted by: RoyalOil at September 14, 2017 02:00 PM (/9uFC)

96 Beccera will follow protocol and blame it on a low level staffer.

Posted by: Cheri at September 14, 2017 02:01 PM (oiNtH)

97 Where was this and do I live more than 10 miles from there?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 14, 2017 02:01 PM (rjrh3)

98 It seems that for a long time now, we have erred on the side of engaging in blind trust because of politically correct considerations, and it seems to have failed in a number of cases. It may not all result in 'workplace violence', but still, we tried this to see if we would be met with gratitude, and goodwill, and it doesn't seem to be the case.

Maybe we should consider being as xenophobic as the rest of the world, until we figure out where we went wrong.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 14, 2017 02:01 PM (/qEW2)

99 What strikes me about the whole thing is the absolutely charming civility of the investigation ... they asked for a copy of the server ? What happened to the midnight raid to seize the servers that we have seen in other cases ?

I've noticed this in other cases, too.

Sometimes Democrats are so confident that they even refuse to turn things over, and nothing happens to them.



Curiouser and curiouser
--

R's are implicated.

FBI is implicated.

CIA is implicated.

DOJ is implicated.

So... let's just make it go away.

Look! North Korea! We need a war!!!

Posted by: shibumi at September 14, 2017 02:02 PM (aT+Bx)

100 >>All it will take is for the FBI (haha I know) to arrest the right person.


I'm sure those charges against Anthony Weiner (sexting with a minor) and Huma (60K or so emails on home laptop, likely including State docs she sihned a form saying she'd returned and other classified docs) will be announced any day now.....really!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 14, 2017 02:02 PM (W+vEI)

101 Keep at it, 'lil fella.

He's keeping the back fur ruffled for me and for you. He's the little guy for the little guy.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 14, 2017 02:02 PM (HtLSE)

102 I have the feeling that this is so bad, the facts will not be allowed to come out.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 14, 2017 02:02 PM (7ZVPa)

103 Sometimes the bus stops near the AoS site, and drops off people who were meant for the Adult Daycare Center... usually they wander off when there is no free stuff forthcoming...

Posted by: kraken at September 14, 2017 02:02 PM (zSVEm)

104 And where is Jeff Sessions and the vaunted DoJ?
A special prosecutor is prompted when an FBI chief Bullshits about the President, yet here we have a former member of Congress and current AG obstructing justice, and NOTHING? Seriously?

Posted by: Iblis at September 14, 2017 02:02 PM (9221z)

105 Right now to exert power in Sacramento you've got to be Hispanic or queer. The former gets you elected in LA, the latter in SF. All the rest of the Democrats (effectively everyone else with a vote) are just courtiers pledging fealty to the authorities.

I'd like nothing better than to see De Leon, Becerra, Mark Leno, and about thirty others all lined up in leg-shackles marching off to prison.

Far too much to hope...

Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2017 02:02 PM (TppKb)

106 Somebody's Star Chamber list is growing longer.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 14, 2017 02:03 PM (P7ulB)

107 Curiouser and curiouser !

What was the FBI thing that was explicitly a "matter" and not an investigation? This reminds me of that.

Isasmuch as one can be reminded of something 90% forgotten.

Posted by: Lance McCormick, ex-Shinobi at September 14, 2017 02:03 PM (u0s1P)

108 Kill them. Kill them all! Let it all burn and kill them all!

Posted by: Strobe at September 14, 2017 02:03 PM (gbWkA)

109 >>> Where was this and do I live more than 10 miles from there?

Cut straight to the chase!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 14, 2017 02:03 PM (H45z0)

110 I assumed Paolo was Italian, dunno why.


There was some wandering in the spelling of Paulo/Paolo in the earliest days. Paolo is Italian. Paulo would probably be Brazilian (can't imagine a Portuguese Paulo).

We seem to have settled in on Paolo lately.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 14, 2017 02:04 PM (gIRsn)

111 Deep State is sweating through their talcum right about now.

Expect "suicides" and unexplained homicides.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 14, 2017 02:04 PM (ATVNj)

112 Oh, boy. Lunchtime!

Posted by: The Barrel at September 14, 2017 02:04 PM (eytER)

113 and Huma (60K or so emails on home laptop, likely including State docs she sihned a form saying she'd returned and other classified docs) will be announced any day now.....really!




See? THAT'S the slam dunk I keep talking about where a trial & a judge are a formality. Lock Huma's ass up for the next 160 years.

But nooooooooo. Sessions cannot be bothered with that.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2017 02:05 PM (8oSoU)

114 I didn't read all of comment #111.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 14, 2017 02:05 PM (H45z0)

115 Can I plump for a pardon? Or is it only well-connected insiders who get them?

Kneepads and mouthwash.

Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2017 02:05 PM (TppKb)

116 wtf???

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 14, 2017 02:05 PM (k1TUh)

117 Wouldn't this be considered lying to the FBI and as prosecutable as Martha Stewart or Scooter Libby? Slam dunk even?

Posted by: geoffb5 at September 14, 2017 02:05 PM (zOpu5)

118 How many months have we wasted on the Russia bullshit while they've been working to cover this up?

Almost a year now!!

-

Not too much longer until campaign season, is it? You have to admire them for their ability to win. Long f*cking game every time.

If nothing else I appreciate exposing our guys. It used to bother me to see how many old folks had turned away from politics. Now I realize they were just like me once and it's the natural evolution of things.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 14, 2017 02:05 PM (rjrh3)

119 That's not a fake copy of the barrel.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 14, 2017 02:05 PM (P7ulB)

120 Becerra had a really bad year and really dropped his stock as a prospect...wait,we aren't talking about baseball

Posted by: steevy at September 14, 2017 02:05 PM (rmVvL)

121 Thanks for the recap

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 14, 2017 02:05 PM (7ZVPa)

122 Nice.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 14, 2017 02:05 PM (XFue2)

123 Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 14, 2017 02:04 PM (jxbfJ)

The Country May Be Screwed But The Barrel Will Be Full.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 14, 2017 02:05 PM (EgwCt)

124 >>A fake server? Wouldn't that take some serious planning?


Well, you'd need at least a large closet...maybe a spare bathroom?

Posted by: Hillary at September 14, 2017 02:06 PM (onDmy)

125 >>Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 14, 2017 02:04 PM (jxbfJ)



Enjoy the barrel!

That was epic

Posted by: Lizzy at September 14, 2017 02:06 PM (W+vEI)

126
There's nothing to this story.

Everyone does it.

Asked and answered.

Old news.

Let's move on.

Focusing on the needs of hard-working middle-class Americans.

Racist, misogynist, Islamophobic hater.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 14, 2017 02:06 PM (BWL+E)

127 Sounds like obstruction of justice to me. Not that anything will ever come of it, of course.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 14, 2017 02:06 PM (NWiLs)

128 Hoo-boy! A whole copy & paste thread!

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2017 02:06 PM (8oSoU)

129 >>> Porn is the most innocent possibility with the current crew of Dems.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 14, 2017 01:57 PM (W+vEI)

There is some pretty fucked up stuff out there.
Thr DNC will go to any lengths to cover up Xavier Bercerra's goatse collection.

Posted by: wooga at September 14, 2017 02:06 PM (q1q2l)

130 I didn't read all of comment #111.

Circumcise your comments, comrades.

Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2017 02:06 PM (TppKb)

131
Look! North Korea! We need a war!!!
Posted by: shibumi


Yeah, we don't have enough of them now.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 14, 2017 02:06 PM (IqV8l)

132 Pixy now reporting 3 hamsters dead, in in the hospital.

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at September 14, 2017 02:06 PM (vmsda)

133 The Democrat #NewsBlackout Media once mocked Richard Nixon for calling Watergate "a third-rate burglary".

Now they're taping the door-latches at Debbie Imran-Schulz's office like a team of G. Gordon Liddy Cuban recruits.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 14, 2017 02:06 PM (Ndje9)

134 I didn't read all of comment #111.
I dunno, man. If you read all the comments that are in comment 111, it's probably okay to skip through or skim. Just this once.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 14, 2017 02:06 PM (HtLSE)

135 Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 14, 2017 02:04 PM (jxbfJ)

You don't just get The Barrel. You get The Deep Barrel.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 14, 2017 02:06 PM (NWiLs)

136 I have the feeling that this is so bad, the facts will not be allowed to come out

+++

What if everyone found out that nothing is real, not even US sovereignty?

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 14, 2017 02:07 PM (Lsg+N)

137 Ugh. That phone copy pasting is always a gamble.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 14, 2017 02:07 PM (rjrh3)

138 The Country May Be Screwed But The Barrel Will Be Full.

Hey, I just got out from the last thread...

Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2017 02:07 PM (TppKb)

139 According to him, the saving grace of civilization is that most criminals are incredibly stupid.

I have a hypothesis similar to that, only in reverse. It's that we don't have (many) supervillians and Blofeld-wannabes because the actual smart would-be criminals know how to get rich (or whatever) more or less within the law, have lawyers, and are generally careful enough.

Unless your motivation is "break the law" or "be evil for its own sake," there's generally enough incentive to stay on the straight and narrow (broadly defined) if you just want money.

That may be changing, however.

Posted by: Lance McCormick, ex-Shinobi at September 14, 2017 02:07 PM (u0s1P)

140 What's on the real server?

The blackmail data. The Swamp runs on blackmail and murder.

Posted by: Grimmy at September 14, 2017 02:07 PM (eaI2m)

141 "What if everyone found out that nothing is real, not even US sovereignty?"

Not Even Cable News???

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 14, 2017 02:07 PM (k1TUh)

142 1. Ctrl-A
2. Ctrl-V
3. ?
4. Profit!

Posted by: wooga at September 14, 2017 02:07 PM (q1q2l)

143 DO you want a Dictator? Because this shit is how you get normal people to buy in on a dictator. My relatives told me when I was young that when they were iin Germany during the 30's - middle class folks - like themselves were so tired of the corruption and commies that they welcomed Hitler and his promise to end the crap.

Posted by: Strobe at September 14, 2017 02:08 PM (gbWkA)

144 #111 -

At lease it's Sonobi Free.

Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2017 02:08 PM (onDmy)

145 that's the archive version

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 14, 2017 02:08 PM (ylUqT)

146 Ctrl-C is implied!

Posted by: wooga at September 14, 2017 02:08 PM (q1q2l)

147 i expect an announcement from old sleepy eye sessions any decade now. real soon. fuck, who am i kidding. this is a local story.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 14, 2017 02:08 PM (KP5rU)

148 Ugh. That phone copy pasting is always a gamble.
Posted by: Moron Robbie


----
Glass house, stones, throw.

I'll joke and rib a guy, but I can't condemn.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2017 02:08 PM (8oSoU)

149 138 Ugh. That phone copy pasting is always a gamble.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 14, 2017 02:07 PM (rjrh3)


Yeah, I fell victim of that during the Helen Thomas joins you in the Barrel period.

Posted by: Iblis at September 14, 2017 02:08 PM (9221z)

150 Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 14, 2017 02:04 PM (jxbfJ)


Righteous, dude!

Posted by: The Barrel at September 14, 2017 02:08 PM (gIRsn)

151 Republican Xavier Beccerra?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 14, 2017 02:08 PM (tbOMB)

152 >>>If nothing else I appreciate exposing our guys.

Phrasing?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 14, 2017 02:09 PM (H45z0)

153 Ah, shibumi, your barrel table is ready...

Posted by: kraken at September 14, 2017 02:09 PM (zSVEm)

154 Beccera will follow protocol and blame it on a low level staffer.

Posted by: Cheri at September 14, 2017 02:01 PM (oiNtH)


If he asks you to put on a red shirt and go run an errand for him planet-side, don't do it!

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Signal Your Virtue with The Denunciator Denouncing Device from The Outrage Outlet! at September 14, 2017 02:09 PM (hLRSq)

155 Unless your motivation is "break the law" or "be evil for its own sake," there's generally enough incentive to stay on the straight and narrow (broadly defined) if you just want money.



That's why the mafia went straight.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2017 02:10 PM (8oSoU)

156 Yeah, I fell victim of that during the Helen Thomas joins you in the Barrel period.

Posted by: Iblis at September 14, 2017 02:08 PM (9221z)

We call that dark time in our history 'The Terror' for a reason.

Posted by: troyriser at September 14, 2017 02:10 PM (Fw5cQ)

157 Don't be embarassed, shibumi.


I've pulled a boner like that, before.

Posted by: Ted Cruz at September 14, 2017 02:10 PM (onDmy)

158 Unless your motivation is "break the law" or "be evil for its own sake," there's generally enough incentive to stay on the straight and narrow (broadly defined) if you just want money.


The person who mostly-legally makes a buttload of money may be therefore immunized to a degree from whatever they do that's *not* on the up and up, and ideology, the lulz, whatever, it's not a big surprise if there's *some* skirting going on even then.

Bond Villain territory is when it becomes all about the deviance, but Pathway A, Main Concourse for becoming a Bond Villain would be to make your bones more or less correctly.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 14, 2017 02:10 PM (HtLSE)

159 Well, it's about time for a Sulla to show up. And remember, after Sulla moves on we've probably still got about 40 or 50 years of nominally republican government left in us before we go full Caesarian.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 14, 2017 02:10 PM (k1TUh)

160 >>>I've pulled a boner like that, before

That is definitely PHRASING!!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 14, 2017 02:10 PM (H45z0)

161 The good news is that we can read the original post, not overlaid with that stupid ad.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 14, 2017 02:11 PM (7ZVPa)

162 74 My IP address at home not only won't let me post comments here, it also now doesn't even give me access to AoSHQ. Did I get one of the cobs angry at me? Or is it a consequence of having a Wet Newsprint membership?
Can I plump for a pardon? Or is it only well-connected insiders who get them?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 14, 2017 01:57 PM (BWL+E)




I have a similar problem. Not problem at work, but cannot from home. Not sure why.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 14, 2017 02:11 PM (ujg0T)

163 during the Helen Thomas joins you in the Barrel period.

Is that the one where, after a week, morons were sawing off their testicles with their car keys just to ensure they didn't do anything they'd regret?

Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2017 02:11 PM (TppKb)

164 157 Yeah, I fell victim of that during the Helen Thomas joins you in the Barrel period.

Posted by: Iblis at September 14, 2017 02:08 PM (9221z)

We call that dark time in our history 'The Terror' for a reason.
Posted by: troyriser at September 14, 2017 02:10 PM (Fw5cQ)


And her nudity was the least terrifying part.

Posted by: Iblis at September 14, 2017 02:11 PM (9221z)

165 Any Wisconsin morons can supply the details, but I remember hearing about the incredible "John Doe" witchhunt put on by Wisconsin Democrats after the dems tried & failed to remove Scott Walker from office.

Walker survived politically, but the groups of citizens that formed to help him were treated brutally by law enforcement sicced on them by the dems - their homes were raided in the middle of the night/early hours of the morning, they were held at gunpoint while their homes were searched, some of them while wearing only what they had worn to bed the night before, property was seized and carted away, etc.

The dems used the power of their various offices to brutalize their political enemies. Until the dems feel the pushback they will never stop.

Posted by: Boots at September 14, 2017 02:12 PM (EBwPV)

166 The good news is that we can read the original post, not overlaid with that stupid ad.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 14, 2017 02:11 PM (7ZVPa)

Good point... could become a default action, until the incusion is over.

Posted by: kraken at September 14, 2017 02:12 PM (zSVEm)

167 A link to AlextheChick's favorite entity .

(Besides Manatees)

https://twitter.com/smod4real

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 14, 2017 02:12 PM (EyPfd)

168 Repeat:

Here's some questions:

How did the cops know it was a fake server image?

What if they were tipped off?

Or they're already working with an informant who was able to tell it was fake?

Like, "we already have all the evidence we need to prove the crime--let's see who we can snare in the attempted cover-up."

Posted by: RoyalOil at September 14, 2017 02:13 PM (/9uFC)

169 BTW, AdBlock Plus is the tits.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 14, 2017 02:13 PM (NWiLs)

170 164 during the Helen Thomas joins you in the Barrel period.

Is that the one where, after a week, morons were sawing off their testicles with their car keys just to ensure they didn't do anything they'd regret?
Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2017 02:11 PM (TppKb)


If they were lucky enough to have gouged out their eyes first.

Posted by: Iblis at September 14, 2017 02:14 PM (9221z)

171 166 They were also forbidden from discussing it.So their neighbors saw police raiding their home and they couldn't say a word about why.

Posted by: steevy at September 14, 2017 02:14 PM (rmVvL)

172 >>My IP address at home not only won't let me post comments here

Give us a few minutes.

Posted by: Agnes from NSA at September 14, 2017 02:14 PM (mcI77)

173 DO you want a Dictator? Because this shit is how you get normal people to buy in on a dictator.

+++

We're odds on for it. I know a few people who have already left the USA for this reason. They see themselves as like the Jews that fled Germany. They also see it as inevitable. We can't stop it.

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 14, 2017 02:14 PM (Lsg+N)

174 Give us a few minutes.
Posted by: Agnes from NSA at September 14, 2017 02:14 PM (mcI77)

Where's Bob? Wait...Bob, you didn't "transition" did you?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 14, 2017 02:15 PM (NWiLs)

175 >>>Until the dems feel the pushback they will never stop.

Unless they're like Mr Carlson assfucking you in the bike shop, in which case they like the pushback. Although it will probably helps them nut, so I guess in that sense they will stop. This was all very confusing.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 14, 2017 02:15 PM (H45z0)

176 Unless your motivation is "break the law" or "be evil for its own sake," there's generally enough incentive to stay on the straight and narrow (broadly defined) if you just want money.

That's why the mafia went straight.

The Mafia's motivation, AFAICT, is more than just getting rich. Though I gotta say, upon some reflection-- Prohibition's rise of organized crime kind blows a hole in my hypothesis. I guess I should say "Assuming the laws are not total bullshit" or something, but whatever. I'm not writing an academic paper.

Posted by: Lance McCormick, ex-Shinobi at September 14, 2017 02:15 PM (u0s1P)

177 For those of us who are technologically impaired can someone explain how a fake server looks? Isn't a server an actual physical object with electronics inside? What image are you guys talking about.? It's hard for me to understand the story when I can't picture what is actually fake

Posted by: Jen the original at September 14, 2017 02:15 PM (/Qs0S)

178 170
BTW, AdBlock Plus is the tits.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 14, 2017 02:13 PM (NWiLs)

No thanks. I'm more of an adsman.

Posted by: ADSMAN at September 14, 2017 02:15 PM (tbOMB)

179 Meh, the Republicans have majorities in Congress so we're in good hands. Heh. Can someone bring an ex rel action against the Republican Party under RICO?

Posted by: SFGoth at September 14, 2017 02:15 PM (dZ756)

180 I've pulled a boner like that, before.

Posted by: Ted Cruz at September 14, 2017 02:10 PM (onDmy)


I got a chance to watch your 'liked' video, Ted. It actually was kind of okay. The dialogue had an LOL moment where step-sis says this is too kinky and her boyfriend (who has the hots for the step-mom) disagrees.

Search for 'Ted Cruz' at PronHub - if so inclined. It's been conveniently renamed.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 14, 2017 02:15 PM (EgwCt)

181 DO you want a Dictator? Because this shit is how you get normal people to buy in on a dictator.

+++

We're odds on for it. I know a few people who have already left the USA for this reason. They see themselves as like the Jews that fled Germany. They also see it as inevitable. We can't stop it.
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers



Where do you go? Where is better than here?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2017 02:16 PM (8oSoU)

182 "Good Afternoon - My name is Garrett and I will be your fake server today."

"Our Specials Today feature Domestic, All-Organic and Fully Sustainable Sonobi in three preparations..."

Posted by: garrett your fake server at September 14, 2017 02:16 PM (onDmy)

183 lots of shady servers floating around on the (D) side of the aisle.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 14, 2017 02:16 PM (wmaTe)

184 A fake server? Wouldn't that take some serious planning?

I'm just not seeing any INTENT here.

Posted by: Comey da Clown at September 14, 2017 02:16 PM (s/EUv)

185 Also, how does one doctor a server image? The time stamps would clearly be wrong to anyone making a cursory look of it.

Unless someone did some hacking or some creative playing around with the time stamps.

Odd.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 14, 2017 02:17 PM (wmaTe)

186 61 Beccera is the POS who brought 14 charges and 1 felony charge against those who recorded-taped the Planned Parenthood monsters.

Posted by: Cheri at September 14, 2017 01:56 PM (oiNtH)


In other words, without repentance, a special place in Hell. Next to the Moloch worshippers.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at September 14, 2017 02:17 PM (nvMvs)

187 How did the cops know it was a fake server image?

What if they were tipped off?


Or they watched it for a while with an IT guy's help. They then compared data on the image to the packets they saw in transit.

If it doesn't match, fake server.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 14, 2017 02:17 PM (jhqr1)

188 Lunch is served!

Posted by: The Barrel at September 14, 2017 02:17 PM (ZM2xo)

189
Democrats - Breaking the law it's what's for breakfast, lunch and dinner. And snacking in between. And brunch. And...

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 14, 2017 02:17 PM (493sH)

190 The Mafia's motivation, AFAICT, is more than just getting rich. Though I gotta say, upon some reflection-- Prohibition's rise of organized crime kind blows a hole in my hypothesis. I guess I should say "Assuming the laws are not total bullshit" or something, but whatever. I'm not writing an academic paper.
Posted by: Lance McCormick



I think they eventually got tired of getting shot or going to jail and had made enough money to go legit.

Legit beats looking over your shoulder every day.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2017 02:18 PM (8oSoU)

191 The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 14, 2017 02:18 PM (NWiLs)

192 Hey, who else quickly scrolled to the sig of 111 thinking, "please Lord, don't let that be me?"

Posted by: RoyalOil at September 14, 2017 02:18 PM (/9uFC)

193 Where do you go? Where is better than here?

+++

Pre-war Germany was clean and modern and free, too. Does any of that matter?

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 14, 2017 02:18 PM (Lsg+N)

194 Or they watched it for a while with an IT guy's help. They then compared data on the image to the packets they saw in transit.

If it doesn't match, fake server.
Posted by: bonhomme at September 14, 2017 02:17 PM (jhqr1)

Or they ran some forensic software on it and realized everything was created at the same time, and that that time was recently and that it wasn't the server they were looking for.

Still, that sounds like something that would result in a felony charge if I tried to do that. Obstructing justice at the very least.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 14, 2017 02:18 PM (wmaTe)

195 >>Where do you go? Where is better than here?
Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2017 02:16 PM (8oSoU)

Galt's Gulch. Admission, a marketable skill, firearms proficiency, and a Ron Paul Revolution t-shirt.

Posted by: Zod at September 14, 2017 02:18 PM (Bdeb0)

196 160 Well, it's about time for a Sulla to show up. And remember, after Sulla moves on we've probably still got about 40 or 50 years of nominally republican government left in us before we go full Caesarian.
Posted by: Tom Servo


Don't we have to go through civil wars and warlords first?

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at September 14, 2017 02:19 PM (L15y9)

197 Democrat corruption? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charles Gibson at September 14, 2017 02:19 PM (PmDx1)

198 193 Hey, who else quickly scrolled to the sig of 111 thinking, "please Lord, don't let that be me?"

Posted by: RoyalOil at September 14, 2017 02:18 PM (/9uFC)

--

Yep. I was positive it was mine.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 14, 2017 02:19 PM (UUvSq)

199 Xavier Barcerra. Born here, but evidently his main loyalties are racial and tribal. He is probably incapable of understanding concepts like 'rule of law', 'objective morality', etc. His grunting noises may sound like words that have legal or moral connotations, but it's clear he doesn't understand them.

We wouldn't tolerate white racist AGs. Why is this racist AG POS being tolerated?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 14, 2017 02:19 PM (/qEW2)

200 "It's probably all about hiding their weird porn habits."



Debbie shares all the good busty MILF sites with us.

Posted by: Ted Cruz at September 14, 2017 02:19 PM (OD2ni)

201 I think they eventually got tired of getting shot or going to jail and had made enough money to go legit.

Legit beats looking over your shoulder every day.


This, too, is the story of the Kennedys.

Posted by: Lance McCormick, ex-Shinobi at September 14, 2017 02:19 PM (u0s1P)

202 144. Pinochet was well-regarded and deeply appreciated by the people of Chile, and for good reason.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 14, 2017 02:19 PM (fA1SL)

203 It's hard for me to understand the story when I can't picture what is actually fake

Posted by: Jen the original at September 14, 2017 02:15 PM (/Qs0S)

A computer image is a 1's and 0's copy of the data on a hard drive that makes up the data on a computers hard drive. It's the first thing that is done in a computer forensics investigation, technologically speaking.

That image can be produced by Becerra and Co., and then they can monkey with the data on the image. Then they can claim, here's your computer image, swearsies, that's all we have.

But there are ways of determining whether the computer image has been monkeyed with. Dem's are not too smart.

Posted by: ADSMAN at September 14, 2017 02:19 PM (tbOMB)

204 Image refers to a copy of a disk drive that is identical to the source. Files are in the same physical locations, etc.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at September 14, 2017 02:19 PM (Umfx1)

205

Ooh, my little pretty one, my pretty one
When you gonna give me some time, Sonobi...
Ooh, you make my motor run, my motor run,
Got it coming off o' the line, Sonobi....


Posted by: The Knack at September 14, 2017 02:19 PM (E05Jf)

206 I know a few people who have already left the USA for this reason.

The only logical reason to flee "potential US dictator hell" in favor of unspecified commie hell is if (A) you hold a certainty that it's coming, (B) will be worse for general life, and/or (C) have reason to believe you're a special target. Because otherwise... dictatorships can be survived, and believing "PEOPLE WILL COME AND KILL ME OMG" if you don't believe said people will be the PC Police speaks to either an inflated self-importance or delusion about what dictatorship in this country would be like.

Frankly, I don't think the "I'm doomed, specifically" rationale casts their "doom is coming generally" belief in a good light. Their judgment is suspect.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 14, 2017 02:20 PM (HtLSE)

207 Reconquista. It can't be any more obvious.

Posted by: Infidel at September 14, 2017 02:20 PM (mxS7w)

208 Chances are that this next shining beacon of Democrat hope will just tell prosecutors that the image was provided to him by the IT guy and he passed it along - not knowing that it was "fake".

See? Simple mix up that completely and utterly exonerates the target of an investigator who is, in a political capital sense - to big to fail.

Posted by: Defenestratus at September 14, 2017 02:20 PM (a9n6M)

209 Pre-war Germany was clean and modern and free, too. Does any of that matter?
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers


They had other places to go at the time that was relatively equal. Canada, US, hell, even Cuba in the '30's.

Were do we have left?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2017 02:20 PM (8oSoU)

210 I feel so much better now.....Seattle city fathers must have not much to do now days, except pass silly laws.

Several restaurants in Seattle are eliminating plastic straws in an
effort to curb plastic pollution. The businesses will use paper straws
instead. This is before the official ban starts.....

Posted by: Colin at September 14, 2017 02:21 PM (cIzwK)

211 "Well, it's about time for a Sulla to show up"

It's been a couple of years since I read Gibbon's _Decline_ from cover to cover (that book is a long slog even for a fast reader).

I feel as though I should crack it again and work my way through. I'm trying to figure out who the classical analog would have been to Trump. A brash purported populist promising sweeping reform who then delivered nothing.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2017 02:21 PM (ujwCG)

212 196. Bartertown.

'Sorry, the brothels are full.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 14, 2017 02:21 PM (fA1SL)

213 178 For those of us who are technologically impaired can someone explain how a fake server looks? Isn't a server an actual physical object with electronics inside? What image are you guys talking about.? It's hard for me to understand the story when I can't picture what is actually fake
Posted by: Jen the original at September 14, 2017 02:15 PM (/Qs0S)

The image is basically a digital "photograph" of the server.

If I were to "image" my computer, I would be essentially copying everything on it on to another hard drive.

So, say, if my hard drive was on its way out, I'd buy a new hard drive, image the whole machine over to the new drive, and pick up where I left off.

It's kind of an antiquated term, I think, from the Symantec Ghost days before SCCM and all of that. But in context, I think what the FBI wanted was a complete copy of the server's database (whether that was direct attach hard drives, a SAN, a NAS, or whatever else they used)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 14, 2017 02:21 PM (wmaTe)

214 For those of us who are technologically impaired can someone explain how a fake server looks?
====

I thought they meant a substitute server, made to look like the original but without any of the incriminating information.

Like when a crooked business has "two sets of books".

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at September 14, 2017 02:21 PM (10LGw)

215
Where do you go? Where is better than here?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2017 02:16 PM (8oSoU)


We will be. We just had a few hiccups.

Get in while the real estate is dirt cheap!!!

Posted by: Venezuelan Chamber of Commerce at September 14, 2017 02:22 PM (nmr2M)

216
193 Hey, who else quickly scrolled to the sig of 111 thinking, "please Lord, don't let that be me?"


Posted by: RoyalOil at September 14, 2017 02:18 PM (/9uFC)

I knew this time it wasn't me, but I've cut and pasted an entire thread before, not long after I started hanging out here.

The physical and psychological scars from the months I spent in the Barrel are still with me. I can't even look at one of those barrel shaped root beer candies or listen to "The Beer Barrel Polka" without screaming.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampsersands at the present time) at September 14, 2017 02:22 PM (ZM2xo)

217 They had other places to go at the time that was relatively equal. Canada, US, hell, even Cuba in the '30's.

Were do we have left?
Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2017 02:20 PM (8oSoU)

"If we lose freedom here, there's no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth."
- some guy on youtube. Liked the cut of his jib.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2017 02:23 PM (ycWCI)

218 >>For those of us who are technologically impaired can someone explain how a fake server looks?


The good ones look just like a real server.

Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2017 02:23 PM (onDmy)

219 178 For those of us who are technologically impaired can someone explain how a fake server looks? Isn't a server an actual physical object with electronics inside? What image are you guys talking about.? It's hard for me to understand the story when I can't picture what is actually fake
Posted by: Jen the original at September 14, 2017 02:15 PM (/Qs0S)

Me too, what would a fake server look like? Did they just supposedly copy his server?

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 14, 2017 02:23 PM (Ri/rl)

220

Illegal foreign contributions

Influence peddling

Voter fraud, non citizens voting

Posted by: ThunderB at September 14, 2017 02:23 PM (uzmaM)

221
Several restaurants in Seattle are eliminating plastic straws in an
effort to curb plastic pollution. The businesses will use paper straws
instead. This is before the official ban starts.....

Posted by: Colin at

Oh, FFS, that's as bad as the suggestion at work that we should use spaghetti for a coffee stirrer.

Posted by: Infidel at September 14, 2017 02:23 PM (mxS7w)

222 "Several restaurants in Seattle are eliminating plastic straws in an effort to curb plastic pollution."

Next up for Seattle, a bevy of official measures to ensure that the cornholing of underage runaways is fully sustainable and environmentally aware cornholing.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2017 02:24 PM (ujwCG)

223 "People want to see that happen," Trump said about amnesty for DACA recipients, repeating the argument that illegal immigrants brought to the United States as children were here "through no fault of their own."

He said that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Speaker Paul Ryan were "very much on board" with the plan that would likely include more funding for "massive border security."
-BB

Angel Moms most affected.



Posted by: Under Fire at September 14, 2017 02:24 PM (mcI77)

224 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 14, 2017 02:21 PM (wmaTe)

Thank you, I have a server at my office and I'm thinking how do you fake that? I thought maybe they said they copied everything.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 14, 2017 02:24 PM (Ri/rl)

225 I thought they meant a substitute server, made to look like the original but without any of the incriminating information.

Like when a crooked business has "two sets of books".
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at September 14, 2017 02:21 PM (10LGw)

Well it sounds like that's what happened.

I guess my confusion stems from the fact that a) it would either be REALLY OBVIOUS that everything was just created and fake or b) it would require someone really determined to try to trick federal law enforcement, which sounds like they were hiding something really big if they were willing to risk that.

Because it's not like you can claim "oh, sorry, my bad, wrong image!" The two sets of books thing is a good analogy.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 14, 2017 02:24 PM (wmaTe)

226 "Several restaurants in Seattle are eliminating plastic straws in an effort to curb plastic pollution."

So what are they using? Reeds?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2017 02:25 PM (ycWCI)

227 Several restaurants in Seattle are eliminating plastic straws in an
effort to curb plastic pollution. The businesses will use paper straws
instead. This is before the official ban starts.....

Posted by: Colin

Waiting for the ban on condoms for the same reason.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 14, 2017 02:25 PM (KUaJL)

228 >>>Where do you go? Where is better than here?

Latvia has 84 men per 100 women, just gotta get your armor, face mask, green cloak, and medical degree first!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 14, 2017 02:25 PM (H45z0)

229 Several restaurants in Seattle are eliminating plastic straws in an
effort to curb plastic pollution. The businesses will use paper straws
instead. This is before the official ban starts.....

Posted by: Colin


But plastic syringes are perfectly okay.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 14, 2017 02:25 PM (mcI77)

230 How did the cops know it was a fake server image?

What if they were tipped off?

Or they're already working with an informant who was able to tell it was fake?

Like, "we already have all the evidence we need to prove the crime--let's see who we can snare in the attempted cover-up."

Posted by: RoyalOil at September 14, 2017 02:13 PM (/9uFC)

The FBI has a whole specialized branch devoted to conducting just this kind of forensic analysis. Some of those agents might take their oath seriously.

Posted by: troyriser at September 14, 2017 02:25 PM (Fw5cQ)

231

Why was DWS so loyal to him

So concerned about the D.C. Police seeing it

So concerned he not be questioned

On the payroll after the arrest

Because he has the goods on them

Influence peddling, illegal foreign contributions, voter fraud

Posted by: ThunderB at September 14, 2017 02:25 PM (uzmaM)

232 Don't we have to go through civil wars and warlords first?

Depends on how closely history needs to rhyme.

Did we get our Carthage? It's been argued that the beginning of the end-- or right before that-- was Rome's victory over Carthage. As the sole superpower in a unipolar world, they didn't have a defined, common enemy to unite them.

And before you say things like "USSR" and "Cold War," well, Moscow still exists, and I don't know how united the USA was against the Soviets*, so I don't know how well things match up.

*That's a lie, the Democrats were traitors

Posted by: Lance McCormick, ex-Shinobi at September 14, 2017 02:26 PM (u0s1P)

233 Turning over a fake image would seem to scream "I HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE HERE SINCE IM WILLING TO COMMIT A PROCESS CRIME BY MAKING A FAKE IMAGE TO TRY TO COVER MY TRAIL" which is not what you want to scream when you're dealing with cops.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 14, 2017 02:26 PM (wmaTe)

234 dictatorships can be survived, and believing "PEOPLE WILL COME AND KILL ME OMG" if you don't believe said people will be the PC Police speaks to either an inflated self-importance or delusion about what dictatorship in this country would be like.

The tone of this sounds like hey, dictatorships aren't THAT bad.....

Posted by: The Barrel at September 14, 2017 02:26 PM (PFy0L)

235 229. Yeah, but you're stuck living with a bunch of Letts.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 14, 2017 02:26 PM (fA1SL)

236 >> Several restaurants in Seattle are eliminating plastic straws in an
effort to curb plastic pollution. The businesses will use paper straws
instead. This is before the official ban starts.....

Posted by: Colin

>>Waiting for the ban on condoms for the same reason.

Pro Tip : Go long on OB Tampons.

Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2017 02:26 PM (onDmy)

237 LMFAO!

A Transvestite Donkey Witch!

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 14, 2017 02:26 PM (XFue2)

238 Xavier Becerra may be a crook, but he's my crook.

Oh, wait.

Sorry everyone.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2017 02:26 PM (DQ4Fv)

239 Pretty sure a fake server is the cause of copy paste double post.

The question is which is the fake?

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at September 14, 2017 02:27 PM (hS07U)

240 "So what are they using? Reeds?"

Peni.

Individually wrapped for sanitation.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 14, 2017 02:27 PM (EyPfd)

241 Several restaurants in Seattle are eliminating plastic straws in an
effort to curb plastic pollution. The businesses will use paper straws
instead. This is before the official ban starts.....

Posted by: Colin

Waiting for the ban on condoms for the same reason.
Posted by: joe




Paper condoms are a bitch.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2017 02:27 PM (8oSoU)

242 Pro Tip : Go long on OB Tampons.
Posted by: garrett


Rely Lied and My Sister Died!

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2017 02:27 PM (DQ4Fv)

243 Several restaurants in Seattle are eliminating plastic straws in an effort to curb plastic pollution. The businesses will use paper straws instead. This is before the official ban starts.....

My last employer used those "compostable" utensils in the cafeterias. They worked fine with one notable exception. They literally melted in hot liquids. Not just a little bit. Stick a spoon in your hot cocoa for 30 seconds and pull out a stick with no scoop.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 14, 2017 02:27 PM (jhqr1)

244 Several restaurants in Seattle are eliminating plastic straws in an
effort to curb plastic pollution. The businesses will use paper straws
instead. This is before the official ban starts.....

Posted by: Colin at September 14, 2017 02:21 PM (cIzwK)

You know, Amazon sends me and my household approximately three metric sh*t-tons of those inflatable packaging spacers. Sometimes traditional bubblewrap, too. My kids love them (and the dogs hate them), but one can only imagine how much they're flying and trucking to hundreds of millions of homes around the globe.

Seems like they're based out of Seattle, aren't they?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 14, 2017 02:28 PM (UUvSq)

245 The FBI has a whole specialized branch devoted to conducting just this kind of forensic analysis. Some of those agents might take their oath seriously.
Posted by: troyriser at September 14, 2017 02:25 PM (Fw5cQ)

I have to imagine that a forensic exam would reveal the inconsistencies with time stamps no matter how good you were at being a hacker / unethical IT guy.

Because DBMS and Microsoft Server time stamps are not usually modifiable like that without trying to hack in to the software itself.

But I don't know, I've never tried to do anything like that, because why would I? Maybe it's easier than I think.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 14, 2017 02:28 PM (wmaTe)

246 "Me too, what would a fake server look like?"

The "image" being discussed would be a copy of the filesystem on the server's disk(s). Including copies of all files contained within the filesystem.

Investigators would be able to mount that image on another machine and go through and individually examine the files stored on the original server. Scan for key words and dates, etc.

If installed on suitable hardware, the disk image could then be booted from, so that the investigators could assess whether any unusual processes were active, malware which would be doing things like running an encrypted backchannel for nonpublic data out to the Internet.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2017 02:28 PM (ujwCG)

247 Posted by: Sporkatus at September 14, 2017 02:20 PM (HtLSE)

Well exactly. The people I'm speaking of believe all of those things. I believe along the same lines but agree it's survivable.

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 14, 2017 02:28 PM (Lsg+N)

248 239 Xavier Becerra may be a crook, but he's my crook.

Oh, wait.

Sorry everyone.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2017 02:26 PM (DQ4Fv)

My husband played in the CA speakers tournament at pebble beach. He said Xavier was slimy, gut instinct.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 14, 2017 02:28 PM (Ri/rl)

249 "Paper condoms are a bitch."

paper cuts are gonna really hurt.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 14, 2017 02:28 PM (EyPfd)

250 I am so done with this "Rules for thee but not for me" shit.

I want them all to get the Chair.
Posted by: Hikaru


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr5nFfWIqhQ

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at September 14, 2017 02:29 PM (vcOmj)

251 Oh, FFS, that's as bad as the suggestion at work that we should use spaghetti for a coffee stirrer.

See Aardvark Straws. They appear to work.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 14, 2017 02:29 PM (jhqr1)

252 'Paper Condom' was the best song on Beck's Sea Change.

Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2017 02:29 PM (onDmy)

253 Maybe the straw ban is to offset the continual sewage overflows into the Sound.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 14, 2017 02:29 PM (mcI77)

254

Just dick pics. Enhances his DNC bona fides.

Get it? BONa Fides

Posted by: Sphynx at September 14, 2017 02:30 PM (OZmbA)

255 I wonder if Origami Boulder guy sells Paper Condoms?

Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2017 02:30 PM (onDmy)

256 Depends on how closely history needs to rhyme.

Did we get our Carthage? It's been argued that the beginning of the end-- or right before that-- was Rome's victory over Carthage. As the sole superpower in a unipolar world, they didn't have a defined, common enemy to unite them.

And before you say things like "USSR" and "Cold War," well, Moscow still exists, and I don't know how united the USA was against the Soviets*, so I don't know how well things match up.

*That's a lie, the Democrats were traitors
Posted by: Lance McCormick, ex-Shinobi at September 14, 2017 02:26 PM (u0s1P)

Your parallel is not bad. I have seen it argued that it was not necessarily just the conquest of Carthage but rather getting control of Egypt (not for gold, but the ability to grow food for the empire) that really kicked off the whole deal.

Plus, there was always the eastern threat of the Persians/Parthians in the later Roman period. There was a threat, just distant. Not to mention the various barbarian tribes swarming into the Gaulish/Germanic regions which were much more immediate.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2017 02:30 PM (ycWCI)

257 people avoiding some coming 'fall of the USA' ... where do they go?
Africa? ... last place I's wanna be in lawless times.
Costa Rica? nice weather, many go there ... would the US protect them from the narco state bullies?
Sure seems if things are bad here, they will be worse other places. Maybe one could sorta hide from it all, but that seems easier in most of America (especially outside big cities) than in some foreign country.
Billionaires have bunkers in New Zealand I guess ... but I'm staying here on the farm.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 14, 2017 02:30 PM (yKAUL)

258 Come on over - I made the trains run on time!

Posted by: Il Duce, Roma at September 14, 2017 02:31 PM (gbWkA)

259 My last employer used those "compostable" utensils in the cafeterias. They worked fine with one notable exception. They literally melted in hot liquids. Not just a little bit. Stick a spoon in your hot cocoa for 30 seconds and pull out a stick with no scoop.
Posted by: bonhomme



Ahhhh! The old "Soup Diet" gambit!

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2017 02:31 PM (8oSoU)

260 >> Maybe the straw ban is to offset the continual sewage overflows into the Sound.


Felchers Hardest Hit.

Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2017 02:31 PM (onDmy)

261 Several restaurants in Seattle are eliminating plastic straws in an
effort to curb plastic pollution.

--

A lot of public parks are like that - Ellis Island/Liberty iirc. No straws. Bad for the seagulls or something.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at September 14, 2017 02:31 PM (hMwEB)

262 45
Posted by: Guy who says the obvious thing we're all thinking at September 14, 2017 01:53 PM (KkGSD)


Oh I'm sorry, ace will address it whenever and however he chooses, so STFU and STFD. He's not your bitch, and he's definitely not here to rock *your* hobbyhorse for you.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 14, 2017 02:31 PM (T3Qi+)

263 fucking seattle has been insane for at least thirty years. maybe more. it's that country where everything sucks. hence, grunge. thanks for that seattle. now, go blow pete carrol and finish up with a bag o dicks.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 14, 2017 02:31 PM (KP5rU)

264 258. Armoured train. There is no other way.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 14, 2017 02:31 PM (fA1SL)

265 Several restaurants in Seattle are eliminating plastic straws in an effort to curb plastic pollution. The businesses will use paper straws instead. This is before the official ban starts.....

Posted by: Colin at September 14, 2017 02:21 PM (cIzwK)



Leftists/liberals HAVE to ban things. A day without a ban is like a day with global warming. At the very least, if they can't ban something on a given day, they can mandate something else as a consolation prize.

There's something in the leftist psyche that torments them when they have the feeling that someone, somewhere is doing something HE decided to do, without being forced.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2017 02:32 PM (SRKgf)

266 paper cuts are gonna really hurt.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 14, 2017 02:28 PM (EyPfd)

---

I recently splurged and bought some really heavy duty aluminum foil to cook with. I'm constantly cutting myself with it. A couple have probably been visit-the-emergency-room grade cuts, too. I've had to re-learn how to handle tin foil. No more balling it up to throw away (four separate and deep puncture wounds, fwiw), no more handling it quickly, etc.

It's great to use, but I don't know if I'll buy it again.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 14, 2017 02:32 PM (UUvSq)

267 Did AG Becerra surrender Congressional immunity when he resigned his seat in Congress? Or is it retroactive?

If asked and answered, I plead work became a priority higher than AOSHQ. I offer a craven apology.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 14, 2017 02:32 PM (e1mEI)

268 Several restaurants in Seattle are eliminating plastic straws in an effort to curb plastic pollution. The businesses will use paper straws instead. This is before the official ban starts.....

Posted by: Colin at September 14, 2017 02:21 PM (cIzwK)



I saw a couple of weeks ago that some "environmental" group was claiming that straws are killing the planet and figured the usual suspects would fall in line with it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 14, 2017 02:32 PM (493sH)

269 Soon, my pretties.

Soon.

Posted by: Juan de Fuca Plate at September 14, 2017 02:32 PM (onDmy)

270 So it looks like if I change the clock in Server 2016 manually, I can fuck with the time stamps on log reports.

But that would require a lot of manual effort and would be pretty easy to spot.

Methinks it would have to have been more sophisticated then that for anyone to think it would trick the FBI.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 14, 2017 02:32 PM (wmaTe)

271 go blow pete carrol and finish up with a bag o dicks.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 14, 2017 02:31 PM (KP5rU)

Don't mind if I do.


Posted by: Ex Seattle Mayor at September 14, 2017 02:33 PM (tbOMB)

272 Paper straws worked fine in the days of polio

Posted by: Strobe at September 14, 2017 02:33 PM (gbWkA)

273 I've had to re-learn how to handle tin foil. No more balling it up to throw away (four separate and deep puncture wounds, fwiw), no more handling it quickly, etc.

Old school tip: you can wash it and re-use it. Wash, fold carefully.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 14, 2017 02:33 PM (39g3+)

274 My last employer used those "compostable" utensils in the cafeterias. They worked fine with one notable exception. They literally melted in hot liquids. Not just a little bit. Stick a spoon in your hot cocoa for 30 seconds and pull out a stick with no scoop.
Posted by: bonhomme


Here in the SF Bay Area, many cities now have anti-plastic laws already on the books, so all the restaurants had to use "green" containers for takeout food.

Many of the Chinese restaurants switched to these pseudo-plastic "compostable" clamshell-style flat containers to hold the Chinese food for takeout orders.

Result?

The hot oils in the food just melted the containers most of the time, and the food became a scrambled mess of Kung Pao Chicken and melted pieces of some mystery industrial material. AND it leaks all over your bag/carseat/clothes.

It was and remains a complete disaster. The anti-plastic laws destroyed many food businesses for this very reason.

As a consequence, a lot of Asian restaurants here now just ignore the law and have gone back to real plastic, to everyone's great relief. So far, the "plastic police" have looked the other way, because non-white usually get a free pass when ignoring laws.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2017 02:34 PM (DQ4Fv)

275 I believe Becerra is suing Trump over his DACA revocation.

This guy needs a frog march.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 14, 2017 02:34 PM (oVJmc)

276 Methinks it would have to have been more sophisticated then that for anyone to think it would trick the FBI.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 14, 2017 02:32 PM (wmaTe)

To continue the 'second set of books' theme. What if you just maintained a second server naturally at the same time as the dirty server? No time stamp discrepancies, right? OTOH, how would you know it was fake then?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2017 02:34 PM (ycWCI)

277 I remember some hippies trying to get Bamboo Chopstix banned to Save The Pandas!

I would have to try so fucking hard to be that stupid.


Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2017 02:34 PM (onDmy)

278 DO you want a Dictator? Because this shit is how you get normal people to buy in on a dictator. My relatives told me when I was young that when they were iin Germany during the 30's - middle class folks - like themselves were so tired of the corruption and commies that they welcomed Hitler and his promise to end the crap.

Posted by: Strobe


Interesting. Let's say clearing out the 'deep state' looked hopeless by ordinary means. Let's say the alternative was a dictator without all the ugly racism of a Hitler. Who pledged only to clean out corruption and the commies. Should he be supported?

What if I were convinced our government were in stage 4 cancer, and a dictator seemed to be an untested experimental cure?

I don't think we're quite there yet. There still may be time to oust incumbents. But let's say outsider alternatives to these incumbents were all mysteriously assassinated or chased off? Then it might be a good time to consider that.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 14, 2017 02:34 PM (/qEW2)

279 "It's great to use, but I don't know if I'll buy it again."


Whatever you do....
Don't wrap your dick in it.

M'kay?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 14, 2017 02:34 PM (EyPfd)

280 If only there was someone like a former FBI Director who could to serve as special counsel to investigate this Awan matter.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 14, 2017 02:34 PM (Yi9Gb)

281 Several restaurants in Seattle are eliminating plastic straws in an effort to curb plastic pollution. The businesses will use paper straws instead. This is before the official ban starts.....

Countdown until the paper straw manufacturing is determined to be the leading cause of global warming because of deforestation...

That's how we got plastic bags at stores, because of the very same people who now hate them complaining about deforestation and paper bags.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 14, 2017 02:35 PM (39g3+)

282 But in context, I think what the FBI wanted was a complete copy of the server's database (whether that was direct attach hard drives, a SAN, a NAS, or whatever else they used)
========================

What the FBI wanted was the physical server itself.

What they got was something more akin to what Harry described here, it sounds like, though with deleted directories and files.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 14, 2017 02:35 PM (ylUqT)

283 I recently splurged and bought some really heavy
duty aluminum foil to cook with. ... It's great to use, but I don't know if I'll buy it again.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 14, 2017 02:32 PM


We should talk. Call me.

Posted by: zombie Alex Jones at September 14, 2017 02:35 PM (ctuyM)

284 Hey, I just got out from the last thread...



Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2017 02:07 PM


Call me!

Posted by: The Barrel at September 14, 2017 02:35 PM (p+Wdc)

285 As a consequence, a lot of Asian restaurants here now just ignore the law and have gone back to real plastic, to everyone's great relief. So far, the "plastic police" have looked the other way, because non-white usually get a free pass when ignoring laws.
Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2017 02:34 PM (DQ4Fv)

Or maybe they have an Egg Foo Yung addiction.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2017 02:35 PM (ycWCI)

286 264 fucking seattle has been insane for at least thirty years. maybe more. it's that country where everything sucks. hence, grunge. thanks for that seattle. now, go blow pete carrol and finish up with a bag o dicks.

We've been here for 14 years and yes, it does suck, the people suck, the weather sucks, the politics sucks...

What doesn't suck are the assholes from CA that are moving here in droves and jacking the home prices sky high. Our casa went up 150k in value the past year. One more year and we're the fuck out of this insane asylum.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 14, 2017 02:35 PM (mcI77)

287 276. Heh....Tengri bless the Chinese. Those people know it's just easier to go ahead and do what you're gonna do anyway.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 14, 2017 02:35 PM (fA1SL)

288 -
--
"He wanted to wipe his server, and we [a 'senior official'] brought to
his attention it was under investigation. The light-off was we asked for
an image of the server, and they deliberately turned over a fake
server," the senior official said.

------------------------

"The light-off"

Could someone explain what this means.

Posted by: irright at September 14, 2017 02:36 PM (pMGkg)

289 I thought they meant a substitute server, made to look like the original but without any of the incriminating information.

Like when a crooked business has "two sets of books".

+++

Nobody wants to ask how they had one ready to go that could fool a professional investigation. It's almost like they turned over an actual server that got cleaned out periodically. You might have to hire someone to do it though. Maybe someone eminently deniable or expendable.

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 14, 2017 02:36 PM (Lsg+N)

290 DO you want a Dictator? Because this shit is how you get normal people to buy in on a dictator. My relatives told me when I was young that when they were iin Germany during the 30's - middle class folks - like themselves were so tired of the corruption and commies that they welcomed Hitler and his promise to end the crap.
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That's how the Romans got Marius and Sulla too.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 14, 2017 02:36 PM (ylUqT)

291 Interesting. Let's say clearing out the 'deep state' looked hopeless by ordinary means. Let's say the alternative was a dictator without all the ugly racism of a Hitler. Who pledged only to clean out corruption and the commies. Should he be supported?



I think before that point is reached, you would see serious secession attempts on the grounds that the Constitution isn't a suicide pact.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2017 02:36 PM (8oSoU)

292 What if you just maintained a second server
naturally at the same time as the dirty server? No time stamp
discrepancies, right? OTOH, how would you know it was fake then?



Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2017 02:34 PM (ycWCI)

That would require foresight and planning, and in this instance, the only reason we are at this point is because the crooks got outcrooked by the Pakistani IT guys. Dems are not that bright, and above all, they are arrogant and believe themselves to be above the law.
So why bother with a secret second server?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 14, 2017 02:37 PM (tbOMB)

293 >>"The light-off"


The Light is Never Off

Posted by: Tom Bodett at September 14, 2017 02:37 PM (onDmy)

294 >>265 258. Armoured train. There is no other way.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 14, 2017 02:31 PM (fA1SL)

Crossing the steppes in style, sans cow-catcher, plus prole-catcher.

Posted by: Zod at September 14, 2017 02:37 PM (Bdeb0)

295 I charge these nosey disrespectful peons with obstruction of Just Us, Us being the anointed few of the Brown/Cuck Coalition. This hellish nation of racism and injustice, that people are breaking down the doors to get into for some reason, must be reduced to a state of nature where life is once again nasty, mean, brutish and short, as it should be.

My limousine had a smudge on the passenger window this morning. I'm being oppressed. Just another day in AmeriKKKa.

Posted by: Xavier Becerra, Esq. at September 14, 2017 02:37 PM (W+G5k)

296 To continue the 'second set of books' theme. What if you just maintained a second server naturally at the same time as the dirty server? No time stamp discrepancies, right? OTOH, how would you know it was fake then?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2017 02:34 PM (ycWCI)

I think that would work better, but would require a lot of foresight. I don't know how I'd set up two mirrored servers that weren't really mirrored though. I'm sure its possible... but would you be able to hide the fact that all packets were being sent to TWO servers not just the one? I don't know.

That's beyond my area of expertise for sure. I suspect it would be possible and I suspect it would be really hard for the FBI to know about it. And it would give plausible deniability -- "oh you wanted BOTH servers images? My bad!"

But again... lots of foresight.

Way easier to have a legit server for legit business, then run your illegal stuff separately... but I have no idea what s on these servers that's so bad it needs to be hidden from the FBI.

If it's emails or something, then no -- no way to really hide that if the FBI knows the email address in question.

If its documents or pictures or something else, yeah, that's probably hideable fairly easily in a dual server set up.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 14, 2017 02:37 PM (wmaTe)

297 The Chinese restaurants around here still use those paper takeout boxes but now they don't have the wire handle any longer :/

Seattle is nestled in some of the most beautiful country on earth, and they have beautiful baseball stadiums. I wouldn't live there and I don't like visiting much, but I do like catching a game.

Every big city I go to feels like enemy territory or something. I feel so out of place and uncomfortable.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 14, 2017 02:37 PM (39g3+)

298
Granny Botox said that she trusts Trump will "shield" the DACA children and something about it's who we are. It's amazing that according to Democrat violating the law and being anti-American is always who we are supposed to be

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 14, 2017 02:37 PM (493sH)

299 They don't dance around like this when it's about money swindles.

Politicians are hip-deep in all sorts of money scandals and no one ever gives a crap. (Whitewater, anyone?)

This sort of desperate move is to cover up something far worse.

We're talking Satanic ceremonies and cannibalism of children.

Get ready for it, folks. I'm not crazy. They are.

Posted by: RKae at September 14, 2017 02:37 PM (ln4fE)

300 That's it.

I declare that no Democrat shall ever have a computer ever again.

Problem solved.

Now, back to those sex robots. . .

Posted by: Sonobi, God of All Things Techy at September 14, 2017 02:38 PM (Yi9Gb)

301 I recently splurged and bought some really heavy duty aluminum foil to cook with. I'm constantly cutting myself with it. A couple have probably been visit-the-emergency-room grade cuts, too

Uh...don't spend much time around the machine tools, do you?

Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2017 02:38 PM (TppKb)

302 "The light-off"

Could someone explain what this means.


Posted by: irright at September 14, 2017 02:36 PM (pMGkg)

The event that got Becerra and Co. to begin destroying evidence or providing false evidence.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 14, 2017 02:38 PM (tbOMB)

303 This weekend is the annual beach cleanup here, there was a girl on the news wearing a plastic straw suit. Cali won't be left behind I tells ya, cities will start banning plastic straws post haste.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 14, 2017 02:38 PM (6Ll1u)

304 282 If only there was someone like a former FBI Director who could to serve as special counsel to investigate this Awan matter.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot
_________

No reasonable prosecutor would file charges in this case.
Mr. Awan had no intent to get caught.

Posted by: James Cummy at September 14, 2017 02:39 PM (j+dfT)

305 My husband played in the CA speakers tournament at pebble beach. He said Xavier was slimy, gut instinct.
Posted by: CaliGirl


I don't usually get "real estate envy," but the last time I was in Pebble Beach, I got a serious case of it. Nearly had to be hospitalized with jealousy. Those mansions on the coastline on one side and a private golf course on the other -- day-ummm.

Then later I looked up their selling prices on Zillow or some real estate site, and it was like $20 million, $25 million, $18 million, $23 million... .

OK.

Sometimes one must just accept one's lot in life.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2017 02:39 PM (DQ4Fv)

306 Second server because it doesn't have all the data the first does

they can tell you deleted a file on the original. But you only load what you want on the copy

They search the copy, they don't know what you deleted from the original

Posted by: ThunderB at September 14, 2017 02:39 PM (uzmaM)

307 Choose your words wisely, Becarra, for they may be your last.

Posted by: Sonobi, God of All Things Techy at September 14, 2017 02:39 PM (Yi9Gb)

308 That's how the Romans got Marius and Sulla too.

And Julius Caesar. None of them were all bad, just bad enough. Caesar wasn't as bad against his political foes as Marius and Sulla were, but he obliterated the old republic entirely. There was technically still a Senate, but it was pointless.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 14, 2017 02:39 PM (39g3+)

309 Not an exact copy

The copy they want you to see

Posted by: ThunderB at September 14, 2017 02:39 PM (uzmaM)

310 Countdown until the paper straw manufacturing is determined to be the leading cause of global warming because of deforestation...

That's how we got plastic bags at stores, because of the very same people who now hate them complaining about deforestation and paper bags.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 14, 2017 02:35 PM (39g3+)



It was funny here in CA, when one town would campaign against paper bags as the worst thing ever, and the next one over would rail against plastic bags, also as the worst thing ever.

I guess the Politburo (in CA now it probably should be the "Politburro") eventually broke the deadlock.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2017 02:39 PM (SRKgf)

311 I recently splurged and bought some really heavy duty aluminum foil to cook with. I'm constantly cutting myself with it. A couple have probably been visit-the-emergency-room grade cuts, too

Uh...don't spend much time around the machine tools, do you?

Posted by: JEM

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Remember: For someone somewhere today is the last day he or she will have 10 fingers.

Posted by: RKae at September 14, 2017 02:40 PM (ln4fE)

312 And Julius Caesar. None of them were all bad, just bad enough. Caesar wasn't as bad against his political foes as Marius and Sulla were, but he obliterated the old republic entirely. There was technically still a Senate, but it was pointless.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 14, 2017 02:39 PM (39g3+)



So we're ahead of schedule?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2017 02:40 PM (SRKgf)

313
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2017 02:34 PM (ycWCI

Another thought -- how do you set up two servers that both handle the legitimate data, but somehow tell one server to handle the illegitimate stuff? How do you know whats legit and whats not ahead of time?

You'd need your "clean" server to look pretty convincing, so it would need to handle everything the FBI would expect it to. How do you filter out the "unclean" data to another server that actually hosts it?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 14, 2017 02:40 PM (wmaTe)

314
CNBC is interviewing a San Fran city supervisor and they are talking about taxing robots that "take our jobs". They're going to have robots fill our tax forms?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 14, 2017 02:40 PM (493sH)

315 >>$18 million,


That one was probably advertised as a 'nice fixer-upper'.

Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2017 02:40 PM (onDmy)

316 Uh...don't spend much time around the machine tools, do you?

The mistake he's making is treating it like ordinary aluminum foil. You can't crumple it up or tear it like the usual stuff, its more like the lid of a tin can which will mess you up if you aren't real careful.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 14, 2017 02:40 PM (39g3+)

317 CNBC is interviewing a San Fran city supervisor and they are talking about taxing robots that "take our jobs".

The Age of Stupid abides.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 14, 2017 02:41 PM (B+qrE)

318 Sonobi has become self aware.

Posted by: SkyNet at September 14, 2017 02:41 PM (0cv0+)

319 They don't know what you deleted from the original on a copy

Posted by: ThunderB at September 14, 2017 02:42 PM (z2QPc)

320 200 Xavier Barcerra. Born here, but evidently his main loyalties are racial and tribal. He is probably incapable of understanding concepts like 'rule of law', 'objective morality', etc. His grunting noises may sound like words that have legal or moral connotations, but it's clear he doesn't understand them.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 14, 2017 02:19 PM (/qEW2)
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You keep attributing all this to his 'race' and 'tribe.'
Are you saying that anyone with a Hispanic surname is a grunting barbarian incapable of understanding objective morality and rule-by-law?

In the same vein, I read your complaints about judicial decisions: "What do you expect from judges named Ramos or Garcia ?!11!!!???1!!"
Would you ask the same question about RB Ginsburg?
"What do you expect from a Jew??!!??"

The problem with Becerra and Ginsburg is not their 'tribe.' The problem is that they are LEFTISTS. And you can damned well bet that the minute their ethnic heritage conflicts with LEFTISM, they will throw it out like garbage, just as the WASP leftists have done.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 14, 2017 02:42 PM (0jtPF)

321 Old school tip: you can wash it and re-use it. Wash, fold carefully.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 14, 2017 02:33 PM (39g3+)

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Use it to make replacement mandoline blades.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 14, 2017 02:42 PM (UUvSq)

322 Until the dems feel the pushback they will never stop.
Posted by: Boots at September 14, 2017 02:12 PM (EBwPV)

Nancy Pelosi said the other day, "We will not rest until..." I don't even remember what the issue was, probably DACA. It doesn't matter, everything the dems want they will fight for to the death. She may be getting old and senile, but she's still a Terminator when it comes to moving that agenda forward. They all are.

Posted by: JuJuBee at September 14, 2017 02:42 PM (2NqXo)

323 Another thought -- how do you set up two servers that both handle the legitimate data, but somehow tell one server to handle the illegitimate stuff? How do you know whats legit and whats not ahead of time?

You'd need your "clean" server to look pretty convincing, so it would need to handle everything the FBI would expect it to. How do you filter out the "unclean" data to another server that actually hosts it?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 14, 2017 02:40 PM (wmaTe)

Well, if you consider Hillary!, it seems like her threshold of anything that you do not want to be the subject of a FOIA request. The thing is she wanted nothing to be the subject of a FOIA request.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2017 02:42 PM (ycWCI)

324 Another thought -- how do you set up two servers that both handle the legitimate data, but somehow tell one server to handle the illegitimate stuff? How do you know whats legit and whats not ahead of time?

You'd need your "clean" server to look pretty convincing, so it would need to handle everything the FBI would expect it to. How do you filter out the "unclean" data to another server that actually hosts it?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes



Two separate servers, two separate input devices?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2017 02:43 PM (8oSoU)

325 IF you're smart, when you set up a server you do a snapshot image of the configuration as installed, in case the thing blows up later and you need to reinstall.

Then you do backups, but you periodically (no less than monthly if possible) do a full disk image so that you're not restoring from some time when dinosaurs walked the Earth. You have to be able to restore from a complete image in order to be back up within half a sane window of time. Small businesses whose boxen aren't too busy might get away with just doing a full disk image once a week and skipping the rest.

So it's entirely possible Becarra's crew just gave them a very old disk image.


Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2017 02:43 PM (TppKb)

326 Well, if you consider Hillary!, it seems like her threshold of anything that you do not want to be the subject of a FOIA request. The thing is she wanted nothing to be the subject of a FOIA request.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2017 02:42 PM (ycWCI)

Right, but she didn't try to build a fake server, she just wiped her real server (with a cloth) and said, "oops, did you need that? My bad."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 14, 2017 02:44 PM (wmaTe)

327 325. DVDA, as it were?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 14, 2017 02:44 PM (fA1SL)

328 Use it to make replacement mandoline blades.

I didn't take warnings about those things seriously enough and lost part of a finger. I stopped using mine until I got some kevlar laced gloves. They work amazingly well.

A mandoline is dangerous.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 14, 2017 02:44 PM (39g3+)

329 >>Not an exact copy

The copy they want you to see





Yup. Bet the db assigned sequential record IDs to entries and they could see all the gaps.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 14, 2017 02:44 PM (W+vEI)

330 Posted by: ThunderB at September 14, 2017 02:39 PM (uzmaM)

Seems like a lot of work. Maybe you would want a team to do it. Mostly it's low level FTP crap isn't it? Couldn't hire real IT people for that. Hmmm

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 14, 2017 02:44 PM (Lsg+N)

331 Tax the robots to finance retraining of workers to build more robots.

There is no off position on the "go raise rabbits" genius switch.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 14, 2017 02:45 PM (B+qrE)

332 329. Pro tip - dulcimers are far safer.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 14, 2017 02:45 PM (fA1SL)

333 316 >>$18 million,


That one was probably advertised as a 'nice fixer-upper'.
Posted by: garrett


I think that listing was for the tool shed behind the gardener's shack behind the fixer-upper.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2017 02:46 PM (DQ4Fv)

334 So it's entirely possible Becarra's crew just gave them a very old disk image.

Oh, and sane people put mission-critical stuff in vmware or virtualbox or comparable...

Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2017 02:46 PM (TppKb)

335 Then you do backups, but you periodically (no less than monthly if possible) do a full disk image so that you're not restoring from some time when dinosaurs walked the Earth. You have to be able to restore from a complete image in order to be back up within half a sane window of time. Small businesses whose boxen aren't too busy might get away with just doing a full disk image once a week and skipping the rest.

So it's entirely possible Becarra's crew just gave them a very old disk image.


Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2017 02:43 PM (TppKb)

I s'pose it could have been an old image, but that wouldn't be called "fake" I dont think (it is the media after all so who knows). The FBI would just say, "hey, guys, this image is from 2002. We need the current one" and you could say "oh, shit my bad. I thought it was odd we were handing over a Tape."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 14, 2017 02:46 PM (wmaTe)

336 Nood

Posted by: Sleepy Jeff at September 14, 2017 02:46 PM (sxYFy)

337 Attorney General? Attorney General? Mr. Sessions? Anyone? Mr. Sessions?

Posted by: Ben Stein at September 14, 2017 02:46 PM (QtQaN)

338
237 >> Several restaurants in Seattle are eliminating plastic straws in an
effort to curb plastic pollution. The businesses will use paper straws
instead. This is before the official ban starts.....

Posted by: Colin

With contaminated ice machines it might be a good idea to switch to microfilter straws like you use hiking.

Seattle has a new mayor! Same thing but with less gay!

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 14, 2017 02:46 PM (e1mEI)

339 They know they hand over the original everything they deleted/altered will be recovered

It's the only reason to make a second dummy server

Just like a dummy ledger to cook the books

Posted by: ThunderB at September 14, 2017 02:47 PM (z2QPc)

340 >>Two separate servers, two separate input devices?



We can make do with just one.


Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy and Chris Dodd at September 14, 2017 02:47 PM (onDmy)

341 An Ontario judge who wore a hat in court bearing Donald Trump's "Make America Great Again" slogan has been suspended without pay after an oversight body ruled his behaviour constituted a "single aberrant and inexplicable act of judicial misconduct."
-WZ

Canada, making Europe look sane.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 14, 2017 02:47 PM (mcI77)

342 So it's entirely possible Becarra's crew just gave them a very old disk image.
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Yeah, that's possible.

I'm probably reading too much into a phrase that the reporter doesn't really understand... but the DC says it was an "elaborate falsified image". Which sounds like it means something other than "old" or "with files having been deleted".

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at September 14, 2017 02:47 PM (10LGw)

343 Fake and duplicate have different meanings

This is like a dummy ledger

Posted by: ThunderB at September 14, 2017 02:48 PM (z2QPc)

344 Understand who he was working directly for. What her
position was. The DNC servers are mostly concerned with Election
politics and donors. This is not a thing of especial interest to foreign
powers.

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 14, 2017 02:00 PM (Lsg+N)


He was working for DWS, yes, but he AND various family members were also working for dozens of other Democrat lawmakers. They had access to those lawmakers' emails, and potentially many of their files.
And while politics in general may not be interesting to foreign powers, oppo research would be.

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at September 14, 2017 02:48 PM (4df7R)

345 329 . . . A mandoline is dangerous.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Not if you know how to use it.

Posted by: Bill Monroe at September 14, 2017 02:48 PM (j+dfT)

346 Yup. Bet the db assigned sequential record IDs to entries and they could see all the gaps.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 14, 2017 02:44 PM (W+vEI)

Right, like no matter what you did you'd have gaps or some kind of discrepancy in the logs.

At least as far as I know.

But maybe they just did a shit job and the FBI realized what they were doing immediately.

Like, say the took the correct image, loaded it up in a virtual machine, deleted whatever they needed to, then backed that up and sent that out.

It would be doomed to fail, and any real IT person would know it would be obvious what they'd done, but maybe we're giving too much credit to the IT prowess of the Pakistanis and people at the DNC.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 14, 2017 02:49 PM (wmaTe)

347 99 What strikes me about the whole thing is the absolutely charming civility of the investigation ... they asked for a copy of the server ? What happened to the midnight raid to seize the servers that we have seen in other cases ?

I've noticed this in other cases, too.

Sometimes Democrats are so confident that they even refuse to turn things over, and nothing happens to them.



Curiouser and curiouser
--

R's are implicated.

FBI is implicated.

CIA is implicated.

DOJ is implicated.

So... let's just make it go away.

Look! North Korea! We need a war!!!
Posted by: shibumi at September 14, 2017 02:02 PM (aT+Bx)

Yep.

Posted by: Bernette at September 14, 2017 02:49 PM (LWyIT)

348 287; good for you my friend. where are you thinking about going?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 14, 2017 02:49 PM (KP5rU)

349 nood susan rice

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 14, 2017 02:49 PM (wmaTe)

350 . . . A mandoline is dangerous.
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I don't know - I kind of like the sound - even in bluegrass.

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2017 02:50 PM (Sfs6o)

351 Faked it how... like with a cloth?

Posted by: Reality Man at September 14, 2017 02:50 PM (xOBRH)

352 When the Republicans win the White House this endless corrupt Democrat scandal shit will stop and people will be held accountable.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at September 14, 2017 02:51 PM (L15y9)

353 Remember this sooper dooper IT team from Pakistan were literally used car salesmen before they got hired

Posted by: ThunderB at September 14, 2017 02:51 PM (z2QPc)

354 282 Several restaurants in Seattle are eliminating plastic straws in an effort to curb plastic pollution. The businesses will use paper straws instead. This is before the official ban starts.....

Countdown until the paper straw manufacturing is determined to be the leading cause of global warming because of deforestation...

That's how we got plastic bags at stores, because of the very same people who now hate them complaining about deforestation and paper bags.

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Well, shit.

Posted by: Plastic Straw Suppliers of Seattle at September 14, 2017 02:51 PM (7m3t8)

355 nmargaritta , I hear what you are saying but in

My priority as Attorney General is standing up for people like my mother and father, Manuel and Maria Teresa. Like so many immigrant families, they came to this country to work hard and give back to the community that welcomed them. I am taking on the Trump Administration because this is about doing the right thing for Californians. I will not stop fighting. #DefendDACA


it is tribal

Posted by: willow at September 14, 2017 02:58 PM (FKrah)

356 They had access to those lawmakers' emails, and potentially many of their files.
And while politics in general may not be interesting to foreign powers, oppo research would be.

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You guys keep assuming the good congressmen were on the up and up and dastardly Awan is the bad guy.

How does that match up with a fake server, ready to go? Who is the good guy here?

Awan wanted to be in custody. Everyone else fled.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 14, 2017 03:03 PM (nltvc)

357 What are you doing Dave?

Posted by: Sonobi at September 14, 2017 03:04 PM (OD2ni)

358 My reading on this is that they (Cali AG) didn't submit the image of the server in question, they submitted the image of a similar server. The investigative authorities figured this out since the records they have from other evidence does not match the filenames/dates/hash data that they were expecting.

Yeah, totes illegal. Obstruction of justice is obvious in this case (IMHO).

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at September 14, 2017 03:05 PM (k6kXg)

359 347 Yup. Bet the db assigned sequential record IDs to entries and they could see all the gaps.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 14, 2017 02:44 PM (W+vEI)

(Not exactly. Usually a sequential record IDs column are what is known as a primary key, which is used as a base value for finding OTHER data records in the database. If they deleted some records, all the db admins would have to do is reindex the primary key (AFAIK) and that should avoid the pesky problem of missing records.)
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Right, like no matter what you did you'd have gaps or some kind of discrepancy in the logs.
(Depends on the type of log you are looking at but yeah.)

At least as far as I know.

But maybe they just did a shit job and the FBI realized what they were doing immediately.
(You are probably spot on with this assessment.)

Like, say the took the correct image, loaded it up in a virtual machine, deleted whatever they needed to, then backed that up and sent that out.
(From a forensics standpoint, that wouldn't work since system binary dates and other variables would point to a 'later boot date')

It would be doomed to fail, and any real IT person would know it would be obvious what they'd done, but maybe we're giving too much credit to the IT prowess of the Pakistanis and people at the DNC.
(Agreed.)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 14, 2017 02:49 PM (wmaTe)

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at September 14, 2017 03:13 PM (k6kXg)

360 The article I read said "he" gave investigators a fake server, and I too was unsure if "he" was Awan or Becerra.

BTW, Ace: why is my home computer blocked from the comment section? I use the same username here at work, so I personally am not blocked, only my personal computer.

Posted by: jbspry at September 14, 2017 04:35 PM (DPvCq)

361 Also, we all may as well forget about the government showing any morsel of ethics; nobody will ever be held accountable for their shockingly illegal behavior and nothing will ever change except for the worse.
And a violent overthrow of the government would not clear out the vermin but simply open the door to whoever has the least compunction about killing anyone who interferes with his plans.

We are screwed, my friends.

Posted by: jbspry at September 14, 2017 04:39 PM (DPvCq)

362 356
They had access to those lawmakers' emails, and potentially many of their files.

And while politics in general may not be interesting to foreign powers, oppo research would be.



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You guys keep assuming the good congressmen were on the up and up and dastardly Awan is the bad guy.



How does that match up with a fake server, ready to go? Who is the good guy here?



Awan wanted to be in custody. Everyone else fled.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 14, 2017 03:03 PM (nltvc)

this^^^^^^^^^^Remember, Becerra was leader of the DCC, so maybe there's even some Hillary stuff hiding on there, perhaps part of the 30,000 missing emails?Whatever it is, I want to see it out in the open.

Posted by: Wysiwyg Mtwzzyzx at September 14, 2017 06:14 PM (98Feg)

363 Laws are way overrated.

We lie to the government, steal from the government, allow government workers to be slaughtered overseas, and do anything to piss on the Constitution.

If you actually follow laws, you are more stupid than we already thought you were.

And that is pretty damned stupid.

You stupid fucks. Now go out and work so you can pay more taxes to support out lifestyle, you stupid fucks.

Oh, and give us your guns.


Posted by: Xavier, Hillary, Debbie, Susan at September 14, 2017 06:21 PM (UsCnO)

364 46 My sister had a Cabbage Patch doll, when we were kids. The name 'Xavier' was sewn on its butt.

Xavier is a beautiful name. Great saint of the Catholic Church. Some who have that name, not so much.

Posted by: Sweet Andy Licious at September 14, 2017 09:47 PM (Mo5Uy)

365 I guess this proves that at least that Democrat is more beholden to Party than to Country.

Posted by: notme at September 16, 2017 12:37 PM (HEsKV)

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The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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