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Jeff Sessions Announces DACA Will be Rescinded In Six Months -- To Give Congress a Chance to Pass a Legal DACA
Video of his announcement here.
He calls DACA unconstitutional and states it was a deliberate violation of the Constitution to use made-up powers of the presidency to do what Congress had explicitly refused to do. However, giving Congress six months to change the law indicates -- as Trump himself has indicated a lot of times -- that he is himself willing to sign a DACA bill into law, thus amnestying and legalizing child illegals. I have several problems with the latter. For one thing, legalizing the children also legalizes -- in practice, if not in law -- the adult illegals living in the country who have the children. The idea of deporting the adult parents while keeping the children in country seems so bizarre that not even the government would do it. Another problem I've mentioned is this -- if you're going to offer a dovish proposal on child illegals, then at least make it part of a border security bill which funds the wall and defunds sanctuary cities. Don't just give it away for free -- the Democrats never do, after all. They always demand concessions for their priorities. I predict that Congress will in fact not get around to any kind of border security bill, but will not have the stones to amnesty the child illegals permanently, so they'll pass a temporizing 2-year-limited-duration DACA bill, and then they'll simply renew that in perpetuity. But they'll sell it to the public on the phony idea that one day they'll actually do something permanent, and allow people to make up in their own minds what that permanent thing will be, whether a hawkish border security bill, or a dovish open borders bill. BTW: An Obama lawyer who worked on DACA admits DACA would probably be struck down if Texas carried out its threat to challenge it in court -- that is, he admits it's probably unconstitutional.Comments
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Posted by: Clay, unimpressed with your wokeness at September 05, 2017 01:53 PM (3CXto)
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LEGALIZE VOTE FRAUD NOW!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 05, 2017 01:54 PM (Nwg0u)
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Sessions is woke?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 05, 2017 01:54 PM (tbOMB)
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Ace, the problem with your suggestion is that it does not allow the GOP to cave at any given moment.
Posted by: Penfold at September 05, 2017 01:55 PM (Fbt5B)
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Yeah, let's see if the Donald has the negotiating chops to link a DACA bill to border wall funding.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at September 05, 2017 01:56 PM (RD7QR)
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Willowed and on topic:
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And the average age of the Dreamer "kids" is 25, so not many "kids" in school.
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That's about three years older than when most of them start popping out the anchors, isn't it?
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And the average age of the Dreamer "kids" is 25, so not many "kids" in school.
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That's about three years older than when most of them start popping out the anchors, isn't it?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 05, 2017 01:56 PM (rjrh3)
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Trump has given congressional Republicans a rope and an opportunity to hang themselves. It is up to congress to take legislative action on this issue. This is how our country is supposed to work.
Posted by: phone of kari - certified sidebar at September 05, 2017 01:56 PM (obUiv)
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Top ten again!
Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee at September 05, 2017 01:56 PM (Jcg9Q)
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He calls DACA unconstitutional and states it was a deliberate violation of the Constitution to use made-up powers of the presidency to do what Congress had explicitly refused to do.
And the Vichy Republicans what exactly to stop Barry?
And the Vichy Republicans what exactly to stop Barry?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 05, 2017 01:56 PM (493sH)
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On one hand I hate it, but if it goes active today, Congress will tie some amnesty legislation to the Harvey relief bill...so maybe not entirely stupid.
Should have been done January 20th.
Should have been done January 20th.
Posted by: nodnol at September 05, 2017 01:57 PM (l8a2X)
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Why can't "dreamers" do their "dreaming" in Mexico?
When is someone going to ask "What the hell happened to Mexico?" and "Will it happen here?"
When is someone going to ask "What the hell happened to Mexico?" and "Will it happen here?"
Posted by: RKae at September 05, 2017 01:57 PM (iGEXk)
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This is a highly speculative and butthurt-generaty topic, so instead, I will be reopening discussion on another topic.
DEMON SQUIRRELS: THREAT OR MENACE?
DEMON SQUIRRELS: THREAT OR MENACE?
Posted by: Sporkatus at September 05, 2017 01:57 PM (HtLSE)
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Willowed and on topic:
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And the average age of the Dreamer "kids" is 25, so not many "kids" in school.
That's about three years older than when most of them start popping out the anchors, isn't it?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 05, 2017 01:56 PM (rjrh3)
You misspelled "ten."
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And the average age of the Dreamer "kids" is 25, so not many "kids" in school.
That's about three years older than when most of them start popping out the anchors, isn't it?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 05, 2017 01:56 PM (rjrh3)
You misspelled "ten."
Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee at September 05, 2017 01:57 PM (Jcg9Q)
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Jeff Sessions Announces DACA Will be Rescinded In Six Months -- To Give Congress a Chance to Pass a Legal DACA
Just like Obamacare. Fark replace. Just get rid of it
Just like Obamacare. Fark replace. Just get rid of it
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 05, 2017 01:58 PM (493sH)
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squirrel = target
Posted by: BB gun at September 05, 2017 01:58 PM (7n4KQ)
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And the average age of the Dreamer "kids" is 25, so not many "kids" in school.
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That's about three years older than when most of them start popping out the anchors, isn't it?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 05, 2017 01:56 PM
My cynical side says more like 9.
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That's about three years older than when most of them start popping out the anchors, isn't it?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 05, 2017 01:56 PM
My cynical side says more like 9.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 05, 2017 01:58 PM (p+Wdc)
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I also think that if we are paid caretakers for these "children" who remain here, the nation that parents come from should pay for the "children."
Send the bill to Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras.
If they don't pay, take it off their economic aid.
In the case of Mexico, create a tariff in NAFTA that authorizes the US to enact tariffs on Mexican goods to offset the money we spend on Mexico's "children."
Send the bill to Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras.
If they don't pay, take it off their economic aid.
In the case of Mexico, create a tariff in NAFTA that authorizes the US to enact tariffs on Mexican goods to offset the money we spend on Mexico's "children."
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 05, 2017 01:58 PM (4AVeu)
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I've aired my worries plenty today.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 05, 2017 01:58 PM (LTHVh)
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9 . . . And the Vichy Republicans what exactly to stop Barry?
Posted by: TheQuietMan
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We sent a lot, I mean a LOT of fundraising letters and emails!
Posted by: TheQuietMan
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We sent a lot, I mean a LOT of fundraising letters and emails!
Posted by: Vichy Republicans at September 05, 2017 01:59 PM (j+dfT)
Posted by: hillary (. ) (' ) at September 05, 2017 01:59 PM (mJ8mX)
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While I'm very sympathetic to Ace's pessimism, I'm willing to trust the God-Emperor on this one.
My guess is that it's not Congress so much as the courts he's concerned about.
My guess is that it's not Congress so much as the courts he's concerned about.
Posted by: WKL at September 05, 2017 01:59 PM (G/6mC)
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My cynical side says more like 9.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 05, 2017 01:58 PM (p+Wdc)
See #13
*fistbump*
My cynical side says more like 9.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 05, 2017 01:58 PM (p+Wdc)
See #13
*fistbump*
Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee at September 05, 2017 01:59 PM (Jcg9Q)
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Don't fret. This will get all fucked up. Have faith.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 05, 2017 02:00 PM (89T5c)
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Why six months? Why not three, or twelve?
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 05, 2017 02:00 PM (LTHVh)
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However, giving Congress six months to change the law indicates -- as Trump himself has indicated a lot of times -- that he is himself willing to sign a DACA bill into law, thus amnestying and legalizing child illegals.
Finally, a policy proposal that the GOPe can get behind. Ryan will make sure Trump signs this bill before the RINOs all line up to vote to proceed with Trump's impeachment.
Finally, a policy proposal that the GOPe can get behind. Ryan will make sure Trump signs this bill before the RINOs all line up to vote to proceed with Trump's impeachment.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 05, 2017 02:00 PM (Mouru)
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Sigh...kicking the can down the road...again. We will be betrayed...again. The anger from my TBI is getting ramped up...again.
Sigh...
Sigh...
Posted by: big sarge at September 05, 2017 02:00 PM (NUvoP)
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"DACA is unconstitutional, therefore we will et it remain unconstitutional for another 6 months."
F*cking genius!
F*cking genius!
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 05, 2017 02:00 PM (4AVeu)
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When taking in "dreamers," you only have two choices:
1.) They're stupid; in which case we shouldn't bring them in, as they're a burden.
2.) They're smart; in which case they should stay in their horrible countries to help straighten them out.
If we take smart people out of poor countries, then that is the West plundering poor countries of a much-needed resource.
1.) They're stupid; in which case we shouldn't bring them in, as they're a burden.
2.) They're smart; in which case they should stay in their horrible countries to help straighten them out.
If we take smart people out of poor countries, then that is the West plundering poor countries of a much-needed resource.
Posted by: RKae at September 05, 2017 02:01 PM (iGEXk)
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Why six months? Why not three, or twelve?
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 05, 2017 02:00 PM (LTHVh)
Timed to the GOPe primary efforts?
Why six months? Why not three, or twelve?
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 05, 2017 02:00 PM (LTHVh)
Timed to the GOPe primary efforts?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 05, 2017 02:01 PM (tbOMB)
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Trump has already accomplished his primary mission. I figured anything beyond that was a plus.
Time for a quick nap.
Time for a quick nap.
Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee at September 05, 2017 02:01 PM (Jcg9Q)
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>>The idea of deporting the adult parents while keeping the children in
country seems so bizarre that not even the government would do it.
Eminently rational. "Your children will be seized and deported to the country of their origin. You may follow them if you like. You have seven minutes to decide."
country seems so bizarre that not even the government would do it.
Eminently rational. "Your children will be seized and deported to the country of their origin. You may follow them if you like. You have seven minutes to decide."
Posted by: Zod at September 05, 2017 02:02 PM (Bdeb0)
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Looks like I came to the right place.
Posted by: Antisthenes at September 05, 2017 02:02 PM (Mouru)
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Looks like I came to the right place.
Posted by: Antisthenes at September 05, 2017 02:02 PM (Mouru)
Place your nuts in the box on the table by the door.
Looks like I came to the right place.
Posted by: Antisthenes at September 05, 2017 02:02 PM (Mouru)
Place your nuts in the box on the table by the door.
Posted by: Porn Squirrel at September 05, 2017 02:03 PM (tbOMB)
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 05, 2017 02:03 PM (oF/7l)
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>>2.) They're smart; in which case they should stay in their horrible countries to help straighten them out.
If we take smart people out of poor countries, then that is the West plundering poor countries of a much-needed resource. Posted by: RKae at September 05, 2017 02:01 PM (iGEXk)
Bet the Romans--specifically Varus--wish they'd left Arminius in Germania.
If we take smart people out of poor countries, then that is the West plundering poor countries of a much-needed resource. Posted by: RKae at September 05, 2017 02:01 PM (iGEXk)
Bet the Romans--specifically Varus--wish they'd left Arminius in Germania.
Posted by: Zod at September 05, 2017 02:03 PM (Bdeb0)
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This winning grows tiresome.
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at September 05, 2017 02:04 PM (nNKHW)
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The idea of deporting the adult parents while keeping the children in country seems so bizarre that not even the government would do it.
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The gov. pulls children away and sticks them in foster care for a whole host of silly reasons. Let 'em do it in this case, too.
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The gov. pulls children away and sticks them in foster care for a whole host of silly reasons. Let 'em do it in this case, too.
Posted by: RKae at September 05, 2017 02:04 PM (iGEXk)
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Looks like I came to the right place.
Posted by: Antisthenes at September 05, 2017 02:02 PM (Mouru)
Plenty of space for Cynics here.
Posted by: Antisthenes at September 05, 2017 02:02 PM (Mouru)
Plenty of space for Cynics here.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 05, 2017 02:04 PM (LTHVh)
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"We understand that slavery is unconstitutional, however, we are going to extend slavery for another six months while Congress comes up with a solution."
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 05, 2017 02:05 PM (4AVeu)
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Yeah, let's see if the Donald has the negotiating chops to link a DACA bill to border wall funding.
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House Republicans will just say "no." End of story.
Which is exactly what they did when Trump wanted to add Harvey money to debt ceiling bill.
/article over at ZeroHedge
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House Republicans will just say "no." End of story.
Which is exactly what they did when Trump wanted to add Harvey money to debt ceiling bill.
/article over at ZeroHedge
Posted by: shibumi at September 05, 2017 02:05 PM (aT+Bx)
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My cynical side says more like 9.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 05, 2017 01:58 PM (p+Wdc)
See #13
*fistbump*
Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee at September 05, 2017 01:59 PM
*cynical fistbump*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 05, 2017 01:58 PM (p+Wdc)
See #13
*fistbump*
Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee at September 05, 2017 01:59 PM
*cynical fistbump*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 05, 2017 02:05 PM (p+Wdc)
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"Don't just give it away for free -- the Democrats never do, after all. They always demand concessions for their priorities."
Not entirely true, sometime the Republicans throw in extra concessions the Democrats aren't demanding.
Not entirely true, sometime the Republicans throw in extra concessions the Democrats aren't demanding.
Posted by: zmdavid at September 05, 2017 02:06 PM (xqRaG)
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Looks like I came to the right place.
Posted by: Antisthenes at September 05, 2017 02:02 PM (Mouru)
Place your nuts in the box on the table by the door.
Posted by: Porn Squirrel
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We got thrills and shocks, supersonic fighting cocks; leave your hammers at the box, come inside, come inside.
Posted by: Antisthenes at September 05, 2017 02:02 PM (Mouru)
Place your nuts in the box on the table by the door.
Posted by: Porn Squirrel
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We got thrills and shocks, supersonic fighting cocks; leave your hammers at the box, come inside, come inside.
Posted by: The ghosts of Emerson & Lake at September 05, 2017 02:06 PM (iGEXk)
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If all the illegal aliens who live in my hometown were returned to their countries of origin, English would be the principal language spoken here again.
I'm for that.
I'm for that.
Posted by: huerfano at September 05, 2017 02:06 PM (Dp2K8)
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The idea of deporting the adult parents while keeping the children in
country seems so bizarre that not even the government would do it.
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I'd like to see it connected to a system that removes any legal family connection to the parents on American soil and simultaneously charge the parents with child abandonment.
If they're going to be wards of the state, then their parents cannot benefit. I'd they don't like it they can take their kids home.
country seems so bizarre that not even the government would do it.
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I'd like to see it connected to a system that removes any legal family connection to the parents on American soil and simultaneously charge the parents with child abandonment.
If they're going to be wards of the state, then their parents cannot benefit. I'd they don't like it they can take their kids home.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 05, 2017 02:06 PM (rjrh3)
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I need a flying drone to bring me some donuts. Or cupcakes.
Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at September 05, 2017 02:07 PM (Rsx2N)
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BTW: An Obama lawyer who worked on DACA admits DACA would probably be struck down if Texas carried out its threat to challenge it in court -- that is, he admits it's probably unconstitutional.
I know a certain Wise Latina who would certainly disagree.
I know a certain Wise Latina who would certainly disagree.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 05, 2017 02:07 PM (Mouru)
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34: "betting against Trump has a long line of losers who took that bet."
That's just it, RO, I'm not betting against him on anything. He's basically saying to Congress to get some kind of DACA legislation done in the next 6 months SO HE CAN SIGN IT, making everything Obama did perfectly constitutional.
I'll say it again: sigh...
That's just it, RO, I'm not betting against him on anything. He's basically saying to Congress to get some kind of DACA legislation done in the next 6 months SO HE CAN SIGN IT, making everything Obama did perfectly constitutional.
I'll say it again: sigh...
Posted by: big sarge at September 05, 2017 02:07 PM (NUvoP)
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Willowed:
519 Had a backbone like Paul Ryan.
Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at September 05, 2017 01:46 PM (Rsx2N)
Negative. Someone who reached Pilate's level and his assignment was a cold, hard, s.o.b. who would not hesitate to crucify someone or put someone's head over the gates to keep things quiet in that province. He had the authority and lurking threat of Rome to support him, but as for actual forces, he didn't have a lot that were 100% Roman. Rome's policy was to run things through local kings and princes using local forces as much as possible with the stipulation they pay Roman taxes and obey Roman law.
The Jews were always a special, touchy case and someone very capable would be sent there to deal with them legally and diplomatically so that it wouldn't become a military problem. The Temple hierarchy wanted the Romans to deal with Jesus so that they wouldn't have their hands sullied. Pilate obliged them, but made certain they well-understood that he was enforcing their law for them, not the laws of Rome. This Jewish doctrinal squabble was going to be kept in the Jewish arena as much as possible and not become a Roman Imperial issue.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Merchandising Fine Harrangues, Declamations, & Despairs since 2012 at September 05, 2017 02:07 PM (hLRSq)
519 Had a backbone like Paul Ryan.
Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at September 05, 2017 01:46 PM (Rsx2N)
Negative. Someone who reached Pilate's level and his assignment was a cold, hard, s.o.b. who would not hesitate to crucify someone or put someone's head over the gates to keep things quiet in that province. He had the authority and lurking threat of Rome to support him, but as for actual forces, he didn't have a lot that were 100% Roman. Rome's policy was to run things through local kings and princes using local forces as much as possible with the stipulation they pay Roman taxes and obey Roman law.
The Jews were always a special, touchy case and someone very capable would be sent there to deal with them legally and diplomatically so that it wouldn't become a military problem. The Temple hierarchy wanted the Romans to deal with Jesus so that they wouldn't have their hands sullied. Pilate obliged them, but made certain they well-understood that he was enforcing their law for them, not the laws of Rome. This Jewish doctrinal squabble was going to be kept in the Jewish arena as much as possible and not become a Roman Imperial issue.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Merchandising Fine Harrangues, Declamations, & Despairs since 2012 at September 05, 2017 02:07 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Merchandising Fine Harrangues, Declamations, & Despairs since 2012 at September 05, 2017 02:07 PM (hLRSq)
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I think all of the children of illegal aliens should be sent to CNN Headquarters where it appears there is an inordinate amount of people willing to take them in -- no questions asked.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 05, 2017 02:07 PM (4AVeu)
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Has anyone told the Hispanics that the American left (which claims to be their buddy) will eventually demand that they remove all gender from their language?
...That's no mean feat when it comes to Spanish!
...That's no mean feat when it comes to Spanish!
Posted by: RKae at September 05, 2017 02:08 PM (iGEXk)
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Just on CBS news: EPA Friend of Trump is denying grants to Dem controlled states if the application includes climate change.
Posted by: kallisto at September 05, 2017 02:08 PM (AAbgH)
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 02:08 PM (2wRtc)
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It was scorched earth around here by the early Trump supporters against Trump skeptics. Glad he won, but we were right to be dubious about the guy with shit like this. Oh well.
Posted by: JROD at September 05, 2017 02:08 PM (mvp+a)
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How about he ties this to DATA?
Deferred Action for Tax Avoidence
I feel like two years (or more) for people to deal with tax issues seems reasonable. During this time frame you would not be exempted from your income tax, but neither would you be punished. You could remain in limbo for a period of time to be determined at some later point.
Deferred Action for Tax Avoidence
I feel like two years (or more) for people to deal with tax issues seems reasonable. During this time frame you would not be exempted from your income tax, but neither would you be punished. You could remain in limbo for a period of time to be determined at some later point.
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at September 05, 2017 02:08 PM (nNKHW)
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My take is that Trump just asked Congress to show everyone where they actually stood. Congress, of course, hates him for this.
"What do you mean Put Up or Shut-Up? I'm a Congressman for God's sake!"
"What do you mean Put Up or Shut-Up? I'm a Congressman for God's sake!"
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Merchandising Fine Harrangues, Declamations, & Despairs since 2012 at September 05, 2017 02:09 PM (hLRSq)
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I think all of the children of illegal aliens should be sent to CNN Headquarters where it appears there is an inordinate amount of people willing to take them in -- no questions asked.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot
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I say we send all those kids to Comet Ping Pong! Nothin' weird goin' on there!
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot
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I say we send all those kids to Comet Ping Pong! Nothin' weird goin' on there!
Posted by: RKae at September 05, 2017 02:09 PM (iGEXk)
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Oh you are 17? Even with that full beard...and grey hair? Well carry on with burglarizing that house...sorry to disturb you, you Dreamer scamp you!
Posted by: A cop disturbing a Dreamer breaking a different law at September 05, 2017 02:10 PM (aZq03)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 05, 2017 02:10 PM (UBzPO)
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Dreamers are just the new version of using "the children" as human shields", even though most dreamers are now in their 20s.
Border control first ... how many times did even the GOPe promise that? Accepting some law abiding and employed dreamers (not any chain migration, no welfare recipients) should be an end point after all the border control elements are in place. (including a law that would challenge insane birth right citizenship)
But the CoC has ordered the GOPe to block enforcement, to suck up to dreamers ... this needs to be made clear so polls start to reflect the public hate for sellout GOPe, who must then be replaced in 2018. But funding will be from BigMoney for open borders, and surrendered sovereignty, in the name of "free trade".
Border control first ... how many times did even the GOPe promise that? Accepting some law abiding and employed dreamers (not any chain migration, no welfare recipients) should be an end point after all the border control elements are in place. (including a law that would challenge insane birth right citizenship)
But the CoC has ordered the GOPe to block enforcement, to suck up to dreamers ... this needs to be made clear so polls start to reflect the public hate for sellout GOPe, who must then be replaced in 2018. But funding will be from BigMoney for open borders, and surrendered sovereignty, in the name of "free trade".
Posted by: illiniwek at September 05, 2017 02:10 PM (veVl1)
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I predict that Congress will in fact not get around to any kind of border security bill, but will not have the stones to amnesty the child illegals permanently, so they'll pass a temporizing 2-year-limited-duration DACA bill, and then they'll simply renew that in perpetuity. But they'll sell it to the public on the phony idea that one day they'll actually do something permanent, and allow people to make up in their own minds what that permanent thing will be, whether a hawkish border security bill, or a dovish open borders bill.
Then the cocksuckers deserve to get slaughtered in 2018.
Then the cocksuckers deserve to get slaughtered in 2018.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 05, 2017 02:10 PM (X6fMO)
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Sessions and Trump are dumping this hot rock in Congress's lap---where it always belonged. There's been a lot of bovine excrement spread around by "brave souls" in Congress over this issue. Well money talks---and b.s. walks. And some of these clowns--on both the Dem and the Republican side are going to get flushed next November over their votes. Suck it up buttercup--you had it coming to you, and now you'll get it.
Posted by: Comanche Voter at September 05, 2017 02:10 PM (Sda6L)
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Well I think Trump is just making Congress do its job and frankly they cannot get anything done so I doubt anything will get done here either.
Posted by: IC at September 05, 2017 02:10 PM (a0IVu)
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"We understand that slavery is unconstitutional, however, we are going to extend slavery for another six months while Congress comes up with a solution."
Seems more reasonable than that war and camps of starving dudes crap.
Seems more reasonable than that war and camps of starving dudes crap.
Posted by: William Wilberforce at September 05, 2017 02:11 PM (HtLSE)
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The body politic has lung cancer, and Congress' prescription is three packs of Camel non-filters a day.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 05, 2017 02:11 PM (rmH5B)
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"We understand that slavery is unconstitutional, however, we are going
to extend slavery for another six months while Congress comes up with a
solution."
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 05, 2017 02:05 PM (4AVeu)
Isn't that exactly what they did leading up to the Civil War?
"We understand that slavery is unconstitutional, however, we are going
to extend slavery for another six months while Congress comes up with a
solution."
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 05, 2017 02:05 PM (4AVeu)
Isn't that exactly what they did leading up to the Civil War?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 05, 2017 02:11 PM (UBzPO)
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45 The idea of deporting the adult parents while keeping the children in
country seems so bizarre that not even the government would do it.
I personally know a Filipina that entered the US on a fiancé visa. The first nite here, her fiancé got her virginity. The next morning he showed her the door. (fucking bastard)
She overstayed her visa and found a real man to marry. Had a child with the husband. She and her child were deported for a period of 6-8 years.
Do not tell me it cannot or will not be done.
country seems so bizarre that not even the government would do it.
I personally know a Filipina that entered the US on a fiancé visa. The first nite here, her fiancé got her virginity. The next morning he showed her the door. (fucking bastard)
She overstayed her visa and found a real man to marry. Had a child with the husband. She and her child were deported for a period of 6-8 years.
Do not tell me it cannot or will not be done.
Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid, at September 05, 2017 02:11 PM (O34tS)
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Place your nuts in the box on the table by the door.
I'll take "what every married man hears" for 500, Alex.
I'll take "what every married man hears" for 500, Alex.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 05, 2017 02:11 PM (X6fMO)
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I predict that Congress will in fact not get around to any kind of border security bill, but will not have the stones to amnesty the child illegals permanently, so they'll pass a temporizing 2-year-limited-duration DACA bill, and then they'll simply renew that in perpetuity. But they'll sell it to the public on the phony idea that one day they'll actually do something permanent, and allow people to make up in their own minds what that permanent thing will be, whether a hawkish border security bill, or a dovish open borders bill.
Yup.
I'm just going to keep screeching 1986 like a crack addled rhesus monkey.
We were promised, swearsies, that after the 1986 amnesty there would be the wall and border enforcement and there would never ever ever in the history of ever be another amnesty, no siree, Bob.
And here we are.
Let's start with defining terms, shall we? Define children. Define brought here as children. Because as people keep pointing out, DACA was applicable to people who are currently 36. Those aren't children.
Also I keep seeing how these are kids who grew up here and have never been to their home countries and they are totally and fully assimilated. Really? Really? Because, you see, given my personal and professional experience with people who would fall into that group, that is not my lived experience at all. Not in the slightest. Oh, sure, the kids may speak English but their parents? Nope. And assimilated? Not unless you mean into a parallel Hispanic culture. As far as not ever having been back to their country of origin? That sounds like not my problem.
I would like to know just how it is that these Dreamy kids who have student loans and mortgages managed to get those without being in the country legally. Did they have a SSN? If so, how was that obtained? How, exactly, did you get a job and pay your taxes and go to college and get a mortgage without ever once being here legally? That's not rhetorical, I want to know.
Also, I am fine with ICE showing up at elementary schools today and picking up entire families and deporting them. No, I don't think it's cruel and I don't think it's heartless. Frankly, I think the people (yes, including the people here) who throw that out there as some kind of terrible action are engaging in the most trite and boring kind of emotional blackmail.
Then again, I just got yelled at for fifth time today by a person on the phone who said why you no have someone who speak Spanish so my sympathy meter is at -10,000.
Yup.
I'm just going to keep screeching 1986 like a crack addled rhesus monkey.
We were promised, swearsies, that after the 1986 amnesty there would be the wall and border enforcement and there would never ever ever in the history of ever be another amnesty, no siree, Bob.
And here we are.
Let's start with defining terms, shall we? Define children. Define brought here as children. Because as people keep pointing out, DACA was applicable to people who are currently 36. Those aren't children.
Also I keep seeing how these are kids who grew up here and have never been to their home countries and they are totally and fully assimilated. Really? Really? Because, you see, given my personal and professional experience with people who would fall into that group, that is not my lived experience at all. Not in the slightest. Oh, sure, the kids may speak English but their parents? Nope. And assimilated? Not unless you mean into a parallel Hispanic culture. As far as not ever having been back to their country of origin? That sounds like not my problem.
I would like to know just how it is that these Dreamy kids who have student loans and mortgages managed to get those without being in the country legally. Did they have a SSN? If so, how was that obtained? How, exactly, did you get a job and pay your taxes and go to college and get a mortgage without ever once being here legally? That's not rhetorical, I want to know.
Also, I am fine with ICE showing up at elementary schools today and picking up entire families and deporting them. No, I don't think it's cruel and I don't think it's heartless. Frankly, I think the people (yes, including the people here) who throw that out there as some kind of terrible action are engaging in the most trite and boring kind of emotional blackmail.
Then again, I just got yelled at for fifth time today by a person on the phone who said why you no have someone who speak Spanish so my sympathy meter is at -10,000.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 02:11 PM (mf5HN)
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Okay you Big Dreamer Kids can stay. IF:
You file tax returns for all years you were here and pay any back taxes. And the IRS will prioritize prior illegals for detailed audits given indication that the taxpayer has already committed fraud and illegal acts.
And the voting rolls will be checked for the period of residency. Anyone who registered or voted illegally is automatically deported, as a direct attack on our sovereignty.
And you will have to pay back public assistance obtained during the period you were illegal, since you had no right to US taxpayer funds.
That should be fine with everyone. Since all the "hardworking families" that have been "paying taxes" and not voting illegally shouldn't have anything to worry about.
You file tax returns for all years you were here and pay any back taxes. And the IRS will prioritize prior illegals for detailed audits given indication that the taxpayer has already committed fraud and illegal acts.
And the voting rolls will be checked for the period of residency. Anyone who registered or voted illegally is automatically deported, as a direct attack on our sovereignty.
And you will have to pay back public assistance obtained during the period you were illegal, since you had no right to US taxpayer funds.
That should be fine with everyone. Since all the "hardworking families" that have been "paying taxes" and not voting illegally shouldn't have anything to worry about.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at September 05, 2017 02:11 PM (QtQaN)
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It was scorched earth around here by the early Trump supporters against Trump skeptics. Glad he won, but we were right to be dubious about the guy with shit like this. Oh well.
In the Hillary Clinton Administration, the border patrol has been disbanded, Bill Ayers sits on the Supreme Court, Guam has been sold to China for a contribution to the Clinton Foundation and Spock has a beard.
In the Hillary Clinton Administration, the border patrol has been disbanded, Bill Ayers sits on the Supreme Court, Guam has been sold to China for a contribution to the Clinton Foundation and Spock has a beard.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 05, 2017 02:12 PM (Mouru)
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This is how the system is supposed to work: Congress passes laws, the executive implements them (and the judiciary interprets them, as necessary).
It's easy to forget that after the reign of Emperor Obongo I with his pen and phone.
It's easy to forget that after the reign of Emperor Obongo I with his pen and phone.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:12 PM (SRKgf)
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Why six months?
So some of these "children" will know whether they made the Major League Baseball rosters after spring training concludes.
So some of these "children" will know whether they made the Major League Baseball rosters after spring training concludes.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 05, 2017 02:12 PM (4AVeu)
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You just have to be patient and wait for Phase 3 of Trump/GOP's amazing immigration plan. Just like health care. The conservative stuff always happens in Phase 3.
Posted by: Commenter who is completely full of shit at September 05, 2017 02:12 PM (OB4KJ)
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Imagine telling me at any time in the past few decades that the sole job of the GOP congress with a GOP prez would be to rally around the last democrat president's signature hard blue actions that they all campaigned against for several election cycles,
Posted by: Henelopen Heartbreaker at September 05, 2017 02:12 PM (SPiPi)
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This is how the system is supposed to work: Congress passes laws, the executive implements them (and the judiciary interprets them, as necessary).
It's easy to forget that after the reign of Emperor Obongo I with his pen and phone.
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Nevertrumpers have no problem forgetting that. At all.
It's easy to forget that after the reign of Emperor Obongo I with his pen and phone.
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Nevertrumpers have no problem forgetting that. At all.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 02:13 PM (2wRtc)
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About the only thing Congress could do within six months is name a few more post offices after Grand Kleage Robert Byrd.
Speaking of which...specifically replacing "Robert Byrd" with "Grand Kleage Robert Byrd" on every federal property named after him would be a pretty amusing bill for someone to try to pass...
Speaking of which...specifically replacing "Robert Byrd" with "Grand Kleage Robert Byrd" on every federal property named after him would be a pretty amusing bill for someone to try to pass...
Posted by: 18-1 at September 05, 2017 02:13 PM (aZq03)
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Dovish GOP stance on children DACA kids aged 19-35? sounds like a winner to me.
Posted by: Henelopen Heartbreaker at September 05, 2017 02:13 PM (SPiPi)
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Just on CBS news: EPA Friend of Trump is denying grants to Dem controlled states if the application includes climate change.
Posted by: kallisto at September 05, 2017 02:08 PM (AAbgH)
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Pretty sure Obama withheld funds to state governments that didn't sign up for his global warming push.
Posted by: kallisto at September 05, 2017 02:08 PM (AAbgH)
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Pretty sure Obama withheld funds to state governments that didn't sign up for his global warming push.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 05, 2017 02:14 PM (rjrh3)
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BTW, this in no way proves ACe's theory about the liberal ratchet effect. not.
Posted by: Henelopen Heartbreaker at September 05, 2017 02:15 PM (SPiPi)
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The idea of deporting the adult parents while keeping the children in country seems so bizarre that not even the government would do it.
The government puts adult parents in prison so I wouldn't call deporting parents bizarre.
The idea of deporting the adult parents while keeping the children in country seems so bizarre that not even the government would do it.
The government puts adult parents in prison so I wouldn't call deporting parents bizarre.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 05, 2017 02:15 PM (lKyWE)
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>>Then again, I just got yelled at for fifth time
today by a person on the phone who said why you no have someone who
speak Spanish Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 02:11 PM (mf5HN)
What part of "oprima dos" don't you understand, racist?
today by a person on the phone who said why you no have someone who
speak Spanish Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 02:11 PM (mf5HN)
What part of "oprima dos" don't you understand, racist?
Posted by: Zod at September 05, 2017 02:15 PM (Bdeb0)
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I have a Fen and a pone.
Posted by: Mr. Yawkey at September 05, 2017 02:15 PM (4AVeu)
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People speak of "punishing" the children (who are now close to adulthood) by sending them back to their own country. Isn't that a racist point of view? Ewww, who wants to go back to Mexico with all the other Mexicans like myself! Hey, you got an free education on the US taxpayers' dime, now go home and use it to make your own country great again!
Posted by: wayne at September 05, 2017 02:15 PM (+JFwL)
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The conservative stuff always happens in Phase 3.
Posted by: Commenter who is completely full of shit at September 05, 2017 02:12 PM (OB4KJ)
There is more conservative action from Trump in eight months than from the entire GOP* in the past 16 years.
*No, running one's jaw does not constitute action.
Posted by: Commenter who is completely full of shit at September 05, 2017 02:12 PM (OB4KJ)
There is more conservative action from Trump in eight months than from the entire GOP* in the past 16 years.
*No, running one's jaw does not constitute action.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Merchandising Fine Harrangues, Declamations, & Despairs since 2012 at September 05, 2017 02:16 PM (hLRSq)
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We need to not only send the adult illegals home, we need to not only send the Dreamers home, we need to not only send all the Muslim "refugees" home, we need to set legal immigration to 0 for about a decade or so.
We've added 40 million people in the last 17 years...with a roughly 0% native population growth rate. We need time to recover.
We've added 40 million people in the last 17 years...with a roughly 0% native population growth rate. We need time to recover.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 05, 2017 02:17 PM (aZq03)
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Also, I am fine with ICE showing up at elementary schools today and picking up entire families and deporting them. No, I don't think it's cruel and I don't think it's heartless.
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I agree. They are going back to the country(s) that they came from. Which, last I checked, was not a humanitarian disaster nor at war nor threatening genocide of it's own people.
At the same time, the press will turn it into Elian Gonzalez x millions.
The GOP Congress kicked the can. Bush kicked the can. Obama kicked the can.
Here we are.
Also, I am fine with ICE showing up at elementary schools today and picking up entire families and deporting them. No, I don't think it's cruel and I don't think it's heartless.
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I agree. They are going back to the country(s) that they came from. Which, last I checked, was not a humanitarian disaster nor at war nor threatening genocide of it's own people.
At the same time, the press will turn it into Elian Gonzalez x millions.
The GOP Congress kicked the can. Bush kicked the can. Obama kicked the can.
Here we are.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 02:17 PM (2wRtc)
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I went to the Newseum.
hasd some good stuff on pre-modern press.
The 20th century stuff was...bad. The role of the media in 19th and 1st half of the 20th century society was fairly flimsy. "Onanist glee" does not begin to describe it's coverage of the Vietnam war. What could have been a brilliant exhibit on political cartoons was at best thin gruel. No real scholarship, a lot of self congratulatory crap, and nothing I recall of social media and its relationship to the press.
hasd some good stuff on pre-modern press.
The 20th century stuff was...bad. The role of the media in 19th and 1st half of the 20th century society was fairly flimsy. "Onanist glee" does not begin to describe it's coverage of the Vietnam war. What could have been a brilliant exhibit on political cartoons was at best thin gruel. No real scholarship, a lot of self congratulatory crap, and nothing I recall of social media and its relationship to the press.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 05, 2017 02:17 PM (CPk08)
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Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Merchandising Fine Harrangues, Declamations, & Despairs since 2012 at September 05, 2017 02:07 PM (hLRS
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I know Pilate's story. I was making the point that It was politically advantageous for him, and it allowed him to maintain power. Just like the crap Ryan does.
It was a throwaway line.
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I know Pilate's story. I was making the point that It was politically advantageous for him, and it allowed him to maintain power. Just like the crap Ryan does.
It was a throwaway line.
Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at September 05, 2017 02:17 PM (Rsx2N)
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>>81 The idea of deporting the adult parents while keeping the children
in country seems so bizarre that not even the government would do it.
Edited to read: The idea of deporting the adult parents while keeping the children in country seems so bizarre that the idea lends itself readily to a level of acute, useful political and emotional blackmail that only a genius could have ginned it up, and only a fool could allow himself to be paralyzed into inaction by this "compassionate judo."
in country seems so bizarre that not even the government would do it.
Edited to read: The idea of deporting the adult parents while keeping the children in country seems so bizarre that the idea lends itself readily to a level of acute, useful political and emotional blackmail that only a genius could have ginned it up, and only a fool could allow himself to be paralyzed into inaction by this "compassionate judo."
Posted by: Zod at September 05, 2017 02:18 PM (Bdeb0)
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When taking in "dreamers," you only have two choices:
1.) They're stupid; in which case we shouldn't bring them in, as they're a burden.
2.) They're smart; in which case they should stay in their horrible countries to help straighten them out.
If we take smart people out of poor countries, then that is the West plundering poor countries of a much-needed resource.
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But see, we are ALWAYS told in no uncertain terms that all these illegal aliens and refugees only serve to enrich and strengthen our country.
My question is, if these people are so WONDERFUL, then why are their home countries Third-World Shitholes?
1.) They're stupid; in which case we shouldn't bring them in, as they're a burden.
2.) They're smart; in which case they should stay in their horrible countries to help straighten them out.
If we take smart people out of poor countries, then that is the West plundering poor countries of a much-needed resource.
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But see, we are ALWAYS told in no uncertain terms that all these illegal aliens and refugees only serve to enrich and strengthen our country.
My question is, if these people are so WONDERFUL, then why are their home countries Third-World Shitholes?
Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 05, 2017 02:18 PM (vg8iE)
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We must ferret out these white supremacist nazi sympathizers. *hic*
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at September 05, 2017 02:18 PM (Tyii7)
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well, you know, I guess the idea that there are good people in other countries who can do good things is so outlandish that it invalidates our immigration law. How about controlling the change to our population? We're good and do good things here too, you know.
America is a fully formed country with a large (but not too large) population. We don't need millions of anyone. There is no gap. But the left tries to sell the idea that we're inherently unstable, we're made up of people who aren't yet here. That they happen to mostly be third worlders who can get suckered in to voting for the left is not to be noticed.
America is a fully formed country with a large (but not too large) population. We don't need millions of anyone. There is no gap. But the left tries to sell the idea that we're inherently unstable, we're made up of people who aren't yet here. That they happen to mostly be third worlders who can get suckered in to voting for the left is not to be noticed.
Posted by: Henelopen Heartbreaker at September 05, 2017 02:18 PM (SPiPi)
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There is more conservative action from Trump in eight months than from the entire GOP* in the past 16 years.
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The last explicitly conservative legislation of any note I can remember Congress passing was....welfare reform in the mid-90s.
Republicans have held at least one house of congress for 19 of the last 23 years, and they've held both houses for the majority of that time.
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The last explicitly conservative legislation of any note I can remember Congress passing was....welfare reform in the mid-90s.
Republicans have held at least one house of congress for 19 of the last 23 years, and they've held both houses for the majority of that time.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 05, 2017 02:19 PM (aZq03)
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I guess I don't understand why we never go afte the corporations instead as they are the ones benifiting greatly from cheaper labor, under the table pay. not paying taxes on such or unemployment bennies, health and welfare while putting the financial burden on average joe taxpayers.
Than go after the unions for assisting and helping them comply by voting 'right'
Than go after the unions for assisting and helping them comply by voting 'right'
Posted by: willow at September 05, 2017 02:19 PM (FKrah)
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Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 02:11 PM (mf5HN)
They are Mexican (or whatever Latin American country's ) citizens as these countries recognize citizenship through lineage, right?
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 02:11 PM (mf5HN)
They are Mexican (or whatever Latin American country's ) citizens as these countries recognize citizenship through lineage, right?
Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid, at September 05, 2017 02:19 PM (O34tS)
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Expect Ryan and the Turtle to now make this a priority.... and NOT doing Appropriation bills, or Tax reform, or repeal of Obamacare...
Why? For the F'n Children of course...
/spit
Why? For the F'n Children of course...
/spit
Posted by: Don Q. at September 05, 2017 02:19 PM (NgKpN)
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Almost every choice President Trump has been faced with has been shit vs. shittier vs shittiest.
Obama and his pet GOP are the gift that keeps on giving.
Obama and his pet GOP are the gift that keeps on giving.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 02:19 PM (2wRtc)
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The cynicism is strong with the Horde today. All that "experience with actual results" stuff is getting in the way.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at September 05, 2017 02:19 PM (RD7QR)
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We've added 40 million people in the last 17 years...with a roughly 0% native population growth rate. We need time to recover.
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There's no recovering from that. I pray I'm dead before it all comes to fruition.
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There's no recovering from that. I pray I'm dead before it all comes to fruition.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 05, 2017 02:19 PM (vg8iE)
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So, if Congress does nothing does that mean DACA is rescinded for good? Or does it kick back in after 6 months if nothing is done?
Seems to me the "smart" thing to do would be to hang this on Congress (GOPe) and if they fail to act, kill DACA for good.
It's for the children....
Seems to me the "smart" thing to do would be to hang this on Congress (GOPe) and if they fail to act, kill DACA for good.
It's for the children....
Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at September 05, 2017 02:20 PM (jAZR9)
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98 Almost every choice President Trump has been faced with has been shit vs. shittier vs shittiest.
He is also a voter. Comes with the territory.
He is also a voter. Comes with the territory.
Posted by: Roy at September 05, 2017 02:20 PM (7n4KQ)
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"The gov. pulls children away and sticks them in foster care for a whole host of silly reasons. Let 'em do it in this case, too."
If a single parent robbed a bank, got caught, and was sent to jail - what would happen to their kids?
Ergo if someone enters the country illegally, gets caught, and was sent back - why can't the same thing happen to their kids as those of the bank robber?
If a single parent robbed a bank, got caught, and was sent to jail - what would happen to their kids?
Ergo if someone enters the country illegally, gets caught, and was sent back - why can't the same thing happen to their kids as those of the bank robber?
Posted by: Russtovich at September 05, 2017 02:20 PM (mscDS)
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Shit - Trump is really calling out Congress. Now they have to create something and vote for it. Now I know why they hate Trump so.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 05, 2017 02:21 PM (YV+SU)
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also there is nothing wrong with having a system where you have to walk in the door legally. sio everyone entering is vetted.
This was the most egregious thing Obama did , was let anyone of anytype in without having any history criminal or good We just didn't even know.
This was the most egregious thing Obama did , was let anyone of anytype in without having any history criminal or good We just didn't even know.
Posted by: willow at September 05, 2017 02:21 PM (FKrah)
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A point to consider, sans Ted Kennedy's immigration reform of 1964, the Democrat party would have become a national non-entity in the 90s.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 05, 2017 02:21 PM (aZq03)
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Any Congressman (of either party) who complains of this principled policy is someone who doesn't want to be forced to vote openly in favor of a real DACA law.
Anytime the President tries to get the GOP especially to do their jobs the Capital cleaning staff must also go a little nuts, worried about cleaning up the fear-pee in the GOP cloak room carpet.
Anytime the President tries to get the GOP especially to do their jobs the Capital cleaning staff must also go a little nuts, worried about cleaning up the fear-pee in the GOP cloak room carpet.
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 05, 2017 02:21 PM (LISuA)
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>>It's for the children.... Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at September 05, 2017 02:20 PM (jAZR9)
Again, 'compassion judo.' I think I'm gonna coin that phrase...
Again, 'compassion judo.' I think I'm gonna coin that phrase...
Posted by: Zod at September 05, 2017 02:21 PM (Bdeb0)
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OT: I just visited Verrit, which was predictably risible. I did so using VPN through a Russian server.
I know. It's a gift.
I know. It's a gift.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:21 PM (SRKgf)
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"There's no recovering from that. I pray I'm dead before it all comes to fruition." Bicentennial guy
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But on the plus side now you can get a hijab at Target.
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But on the plus side now you can get a hijab at Target.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at September 05, 2017 02:22 PM (QtQaN)
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Shit - Trump is really calling out Congress. Now they have to create something and vote for it. Now I know why they hate Trump so.
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Remember when Congress used to actually take tough votes on bills because their voters wanted them to? Well, the Democrats do that...but I mean the Republicans.
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Remember when Congress used to actually take tough votes on bills because their voters wanted them to? Well, the Democrats do that...but I mean the Republicans.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 05, 2017 02:22 PM (aZq03)
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we were right to be dubious about the guy with shit like this.
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On this particular issue, Trump has always been crystal clear. He loves the dreamers. They're not going anywhere.
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On this particular issue, Trump has always been crystal clear. He loves the dreamers. They're not going anywhere.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at September 05, 2017 02:22 PM (PXbkt)
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We've added 40 million people in the last 17 years...with a roughly 0% native population growth rate. We need time to recover.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 05, 2017 02:17 PM (aZq03)
And that's just LEGAL immigrant...
Add it another 15 million (minimum) of illegals?
My guestimate is that nationwide, we have at LEAST 20% of the population foreign born.
NO society can assimilate that amount... they will, as they have here in Central California, self segregate and take over entire regions.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 05, 2017 02:17 PM (aZq03)
And that's just LEGAL immigrant...
Add it another 15 million (minimum) of illegals?
My guestimate is that nationwide, we have at LEAST 20% of the population foreign born.
NO society can assimilate that amount... they will, as they have here in Central California, self segregate and take over entire regions.
Posted by: Don Q. at September 05, 2017 02:22 PM (NgKpN)
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Given all the 'special' interests that benefit from the invasion of illegal aliens, yes you know who they are, nothing will be done.
Posted by: colfax mingo at September 05, 2017 02:22 PM (gkURX)
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101 So, if Congress does nothing does that mean DACA is rescinded for good? Or does it kick back in after 6 months if nothing is done?
Seems to me the "smart" thing to do would be to hang this on Congress (GOPe) and if they fail to act, kill DACA for good.
It's for the children....
Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at September 05, 2017 02:20 PM (jAZR9)
I think (hope) that that might be the plan.
Seems to me the "smart" thing to do would be to hang this on Congress (GOPe) and if they fail to act, kill DACA for good.
It's for the children....
Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at September 05, 2017 02:20 PM (jAZR9)
I think (hope) that that might be the plan.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:23 PM (SRKgf)
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Again, 'compassion judo.' I think I'm gonna coin that phrase...
Posted by: Zod
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"I float like a leaf on the win..."
/Wash
Posted by: Zod
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"I float like a leaf on the win..."
/Wash
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 02:23 PM (2wRtc)
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I also think that if we are paid caretakers for these "children" who
remain here, the nation that parents come from should pay for the
"children."
Send the bill to Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras.
If they don't pay, take it off their economic aid.
In the case of Mexico, create a tariff in NAFTA that authorizes the
US to enact tariffs on Mexican goods to offset the money we spend on
Mexico's "children."
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 05, 2017 01:58 PM (4AVeu)
take it off their foreign aid? ahem. No. suspend all foreign aid as well as suspend all monetary transfers form any bank in the US to those countries and stop issuing visas to any and all of those country's nationals. period. Then when the "dreamers" reach the age of 18, give them a 3 month period to return to their homeland to apply for citizenship the correct way. If not, then deportation and no chance of US citizenship . . . ever . . period.
Do the same suspension to all countries that do not pay for the immediate repatriation of any and all of their deported nationals. if they keep coming in? If it keeps up after that? Start seizing the bank accounts in the US of of those countries' nationals. This sh*it will end in a big hurry as son as that starts happening. And what is the argument against it - from a political standpoint? No keep providing assistance to people over the age of 18 and let them get jobs in front of US citizens and legal immigrants? No - let's keep giving billions in aid to countries that try and import their problems and corruption (or subsidize it through our taxpayers)
I also think that if we are paid caretakers for these "children" who
remain here, the nation that parents come from should pay for the
"children."
Send the bill to Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras.
If they don't pay, take it off their economic aid.
In the case of Mexico, create a tariff in NAFTA that authorizes the
US to enact tariffs on Mexican goods to offset the money we spend on
Mexico's "children."
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 05, 2017 01:58 PM (4AVeu)
take it off their foreign aid? ahem. No. suspend all foreign aid as well as suspend all monetary transfers form any bank in the US to those countries and stop issuing visas to any and all of those country's nationals. period. Then when the "dreamers" reach the age of 18, give them a 3 month period to return to their homeland to apply for citizenship the correct way. If not, then deportation and no chance of US citizenship . . . ever . . period.
Do the same suspension to all countries that do not pay for the immediate repatriation of any and all of their deported nationals. if they keep coming in? If it keeps up after that? Start seizing the bank accounts in the US of of those countries' nationals. This sh*it will end in a big hurry as son as that starts happening. And what is the argument against it - from a political standpoint? No keep providing assistance to people over the age of 18 and let them get jobs in front of US citizens and legal immigrants? No - let's keep giving billions in aid to countries that try and import their problems and corruption (or subsidize it through our taxpayers)
Posted by: Publius Redux at September 05, 2017 02:23 PM (Fb9aZ)
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Now that I have to go back to the village of Nueva Cholera, I will bring all of the ideas that I have learned over the past 11 years from the American education system.
1. Having a penis doesn't mean you're an hombre and have a vagina doesn't mean you are a mujere.
2. The poem on Statue of Liberty is more important than the Constitution.
3. Climate change is causing killer hurricanes that target people of color.
4. Joe Biden is one loco pendejo.
1. Having a penis doesn't mean you're an hombre and have a vagina doesn't mean you are a mujere.
2. The poem on Statue of Liberty is more important than the Constitution.
3. Climate change is causing killer hurricanes that target people of color.
4. Joe Biden is one loco pendejo.
Posted by: Jose Llamama at September 05, 2017 02:23 PM (4AVeu)
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Okay, give them a two year extention. Then they must apply for entry behind all the other legal applicants. Any felony conviction voids the application and triggers immediate deportation. Also, never eligible for bringing in the 38 relatives.
Oh, and a voter registration is automatic deportation.
Just load the bill up with exclusions. Get the people who write up appliance and car warranties and put them to work.
Oh, and a voter registration is automatic deportation.
Just load the bill up with exclusions. Get the people who write up appliance and car warranties and put them to work.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 05, 2017 02:23 PM (e1mEI)
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106 A point to consider, sans Ted Kennedy's immigration reform of 1964, the Democrat party would have become a national non-entity in the 90s.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 05, 2017 02:21 PM (aZq03)
Plus El BJ and the Great Society crap. He was right; they WILL be voting Democrat for the next 200 years.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 05, 2017 02:21 PM (aZq03)
Plus El BJ and the Great Society crap. He was right; they WILL be voting Democrat for the next 200 years.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:24 PM (SRKgf)
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But on the plus side now you can get a hijab at Target.
***
I remember prior to 9/11 all the muslims I knew were actual moderates...and the women dressed like slightly more conservative non-muslim women.
As of today you can't spend time in a major coastal city without see swarms of women in burkas.
It really sucks to have lost the war on terror.
***
I remember prior to 9/11 all the muslims I knew were actual moderates...and the women dressed like slightly more conservative non-muslim women.
As of today you can't spend time in a major coastal city without see swarms of women in burkas.
It really sucks to have lost the war on terror.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 05, 2017 02:24 PM (aZq03)
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Headless body? that won't work, Remember the country that would reduce charges so That none would be deported?
rape assault etc?
rape assault etc?
Posted by: willow at September 05, 2017 02:24 PM (FKrah)
123
"She says a lot in this book, and some of it is going to surprise
people. People should buy it, read it, and consider what she
constructively lays out. It's a great read."
people. People should buy it, read it, and consider what she
constructively lays out. It's a great read."
Posted by: Unnamed Clinton Aide at September 05, 2017 02:24 PM (ctuyM)
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counties*
Posted by: willow at September 05, 2017 02:25 PM (FKrah)
125
See United Stares v. Texas and listen to Professor Turley's testimony before Congress on this matter. There is no question it is unconstitutional. None.
Congress will work on getting this done because they prioritize everything else over their constituents needs.
"For the children", which is now the GOP motto.
Congress will work on getting this done because they prioritize everything else over their constituents needs.
"For the children", which is now the GOP motto.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 05, 2017 02:25 PM (9xpg1)
126
Here is going to be the GOPe gameplan...
They will rush an amendment through on the debt ceiling bill.... making DACA the law...
And it will be of course... Bi Partisan! so the Press will F'n love it some amnesty....
They will rush an amendment through on the debt ceiling bill.... making DACA the law...
And it will be of course... Bi Partisan! so the Press will F'n love it some amnesty....
Posted by: Don Quixote channeling Cassandra at September 05, 2017 02:25 PM (NgKpN)
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What part of "oprima dos" don't you understand, racist?
Posted by: Zod at September 05, 2017 02:15 PM (Bdeb0)
I'm not kidding that we get anywhere from 5-10 calls a day from people whose first question is does anyone there speak Spanish. In at least one or two of those calls the question itself will be asked in Spanish.
When I say no, there's no one here who speaks Spanish, 85% of the time I get a very hostile response of why you have no one who speak Spanish in very hostile tones. Because how dare we not have a Spanish speaker on staff! The other 15% I get an apologetic I'm sorry about my English and in almost each and everyone of those cases the person speaks English just fine. Maybe not perfectly but more than well enough to be understood.
It's the attitude of how dare you not speak Spanish that sets my teeth on edge. If I went to a Spanish speaking country to live and I was dealing with businesses there, I would presume it was my responsibility to learn Spanish, not theirs to provide an English speaking person.
Posted by: Zod at September 05, 2017 02:15 PM (Bdeb0)
I'm not kidding that we get anywhere from 5-10 calls a day from people whose first question is does anyone there speak Spanish. In at least one or two of those calls the question itself will be asked in Spanish.
When I say no, there's no one here who speaks Spanish, 85% of the time I get a very hostile response of why you have no one who speak Spanish in very hostile tones. Because how dare we not have a Spanish speaker on staff! The other 15% I get an apologetic I'm sorry about my English and in almost each and everyone of those cases the person speaks English just fine. Maybe not perfectly but more than well enough to be understood.
It's the attitude of how dare you not speak Spanish that sets my teeth on edge. If I went to a Spanish speaking country to live and I was dealing with businesses there, I would presume it was my responsibility to learn Spanish, not theirs to provide an English speaking person.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 02:25 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: The Raven at September 05, 2017 02:26 PM (XA79P)
129
It boggles me that the environmentalist don't rebel against the No-Borders Democrats.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 05, 2017 02:26 PM (QQ+il)
130
People speak of "punishing" the children (who are now close to adulthood) by sending them back to their own country. Isn't that a racist point of view? Ewww, who wants to go back to Mexico with all the other Mexicans like myself!
Well, to be fair they're not just going back to Mexico. They're moving without time to sell assets here in the US to a different country where they don't have jobs.
It's a pretty big deal.
Of course, this is a problem of their own making or of their parent's making, so there's that.
Well, to be fair they're not just going back to Mexico. They're moving without time to sell assets here in the US to a different country where they don't have jobs.
It's a pretty big deal.
Of course, this is a problem of their own making or of their parent's making, so there's that.
Posted by: bonhomme at September 05, 2017 02:26 PM (jhqr1)
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 02:26 PM (2wRtc)
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Start seizing the bank accounts in the US of of those countries' nationals.
Posted by: Publius Redux at September 05, 2017 02:23 PM (Fb9aZ)
And, for political cover, direct it toward employment training in the inner cities.
Let's see the Democrats argue their way out of THAT one.
Posted by: Publius Redux at September 05, 2017 02:23 PM (Fb9aZ)
And, for political cover, direct it toward employment training in the inner cities.
Let's see the Democrats argue their way out of THAT one.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:27 PM (SRKgf)
133
"Fair share"
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 02:27 PM (2wRtc)
134
Uh oh. Mrs IMG is teaching our 9 month old grandson to use a pot and wooden spoon like a drum....
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at September 05, 2017 02:27 PM (di1hb)
135
>>Plus El BJ and the Great Society crap. He was right; they WILL be voting Democrat for the next 200 years. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:24 PM (SRKgf)
LBJ was keenly aware of the value of a bunch of gormless Tex-Mexican proles at the voting booth. The "Duke of Duval" basically strong-armed south Texas into voting for Johnson for Senate in a vote-rig that makes Cook County look like piker's work, and Johnson never forgot it.
LBJ was keenly aware of the value of a bunch of gormless Tex-Mexican proles at the voting booth. The "Duke of Duval" basically strong-armed south Texas into voting for Johnson for Senate in a vote-rig that makes Cook County look like piker's work, and Johnson never forgot it.
Posted by: Zod at September 05, 2017 02:27 PM (Bdeb0)
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It's the attitude of how dare you not speak Spanish that sets my teeth on edge.
It's that sense of entitlement all the way down.
It's that sense of entitlement all the way down.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 05, 2017 02:27 PM (Tyii7)
137
Most of the people who registered for DACA are not "children". They are mostly over 20 years old.
It was amnesty, pure and simple.
It was amnesty, pure and simple.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 05, 2017 02:27 PM (9xpg1)
138
Willowed from downstairs thread.
Before Obama did this, nobody was really talking about this group of people, they were illegals just like any other illegal immigrant.
Posted by: Maritime at September 05, 2017 01:50 PM (lKmt3)
Ok, so let's look up the DACA requirements on the DACA page I linked to a couple of threads ago. It has changed in the past hour, reflecting the gov. announcement this morning , but still retains the requirements to be shielded from deportation.
You have to be under the age of 31 as of June of 2012. You must have come to this country before reaching your 16th birthday. You cannot have left this country up until the current date, you must be either enrolled in school, college or are enlisted in the US armed forces and Coast Guard, or have been honorably discharged from said forces, and you either graduated from HS or have earned a GED.
Additionally, you cannot have been convicted of a felony or serious misdemeanor, nor can you have been convicted of three other misdemeanors.
On top of that, you need to present a large cache of documentation of proof of all the above.
My point on this is that people keep making it sound like all the DACA signups are gang banger MS13 threats when they are not. They are still illegals, who were never deported and were actually welcomed and educated in the US school systems, and those who have served in the US military. Because our gov. and particularly Congress has simply refused to make a stand on immigration for years.
I am for lawful immigration. But I am also not a big fan of screwing over a bunch of people to whom the gov has not just turned a blind eye, but has purposefully enticed and encouraged to be here via a totally ignored immigration system.
Let Congress choke on how to fix this.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 05, 2017 02:16 PM (/Qs0S)
Before Obama did this, nobody was really talking about this group of people, they were illegals just like any other illegal immigrant.
Posted by: Maritime at September 05, 2017 01:50 PM (lKmt3)
Ok, so let's look up the DACA requirements on the DACA page I linked to a couple of threads ago. It has changed in the past hour, reflecting the gov. announcement this morning , but still retains the requirements to be shielded from deportation.
You have to be under the age of 31 as of June of 2012. You must have come to this country before reaching your 16th birthday. You cannot have left this country up until the current date, you must be either enrolled in school, college or are enlisted in the US armed forces and Coast Guard, or have been honorably discharged from said forces, and you either graduated from HS or have earned a GED.
Additionally, you cannot have been convicted of a felony or serious misdemeanor, nor can you have been convicted of three other misdemeanors.
On top of that, you need to present a large cache of documentation of proof of all the above.
My point on this is that people keep making it sound like all the DACA signups are gang banger MS13 threats when they are not. They are still illegals, who were never deported and were actually welcomed and educated in the US school systems, and those who have served in the US military. Because our gov. and particularly Congress has simply refused to make a stand on immigration for years.
I am for lawful immigration. But I am also not a big fan of screwing over a bunch of people to whom the gov has not just turned a blind eye, but has purposefully enticed and encouraged to be here via a totally ignored immigration system.
Let Congress choke on how to fix this.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 05, 2017 02:16 PM (/Qs0S)
Posted by: Jen the original at September 05, 2017 02:28 PM (/Qs0S)
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129 It boggles me that the environmentalist don't rebel against the No-Borders Democrats.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 05, 2017 02:26 PM (QQ+il)
They're just working down different avenues toward the same goal.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 05, 2017 02:26 PM (QQ+il)
They're just working down different avenues toward the same goal.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at September 05, 2017 02:28 PM (RD7QR)
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It's the attitude of how dare you not speak Spanish that sets my teeth on edge. If I went to a Spanish speaking country to live and I was dealing with businesses there, I would presume it was my responsibility to learn Spanish, not theirs to provide an English speaking person.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 02:25 PM (mf5HN)
Answer them in some other language than English OR Spanish.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 02:25 PM (mf5HN)
Answer them in some other language than English OR Spanish.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:28 PM (SRKgf)
141
Mortimer, how would one check? many use fake ID, fake SS. and change them occasionally for bad credit reasons
Posted by: willow at September 05, 2017 02:28 PM (FKrah)
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I think that over the next six months, you will see many of these children self-deport knowing that in 6 months, if Congress doesn't act, Trump will.
I love self-deportation. It's so affordable!
I love self-deportation. It's so affordable!
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 05, 2017 02:29 PM (4AVeu)
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106 A point to consider, sans Ted Kennedy's immigration reform of 1964, the Democrat party would have become a national non-entity in the 90s.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 05, 2017 02:21 PM (aZq03)
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Kennedy called in all his markers to get that thing through. It was a turning point for this country, and not in a good way.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 05, 2017 02:21 PM (aZq03)
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Kennedy called in all his markers to get that thing through. It was a turning point for this country, and not in a good way.
Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at September 05, 2017 02:29 PM (Rsx2N)
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122 Headless body? that won't work, Remember the country that would reduce charges so That none would be deported?
rape assault etc?
Posted by: willow at September 05, 2017 02:24 PM (FKrah)
You need to read a standard warranty contract. Those people could exclude Jesus from Heaven.
122 Headless body? that won't work, Remember the country that would reduce charges so That none would be deported?
rape assault etc?
Posted by: willow at September 05, 2017 02:24 PM (FKrah)
You need to read a standard warranty contract. Those people could exclude Jesus from Heaven.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 05, 2017 02:29 PM (e1mEI)
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It's the attitude of how dare you not speak
Spanish that sets my teeth on edge.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 02:25 PM
Fortunately, they don't know you like we know you.
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Spanish that sets my teeth on edge.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 02:25 PM
Fortunately, they don't know you like we know you.
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Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 05, 2017 02:29 PM (ctuyM)
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Uh oh. Mrs IMG is teaching our 9 month old grandson to use a pot and wooden spoon like a drum....
Genie, meet bottle.
Genie, meet bottle.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 05, 2017 02:30 PM (Tyii7)
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many use fake ID, fake SS. and change them occasionally for bad credit reasons
Posted by: willow
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They would have to prove their identity. Just like me.
Any fraudulent activity is grounds for ID theft charges and deportation.
Posted by: willow
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They would have to prove their identity. Just like me.
Any fraudulent activity is grounds for ID theft charges and deportation.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 02:30 PM (2wRtc)
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Who are these people that get deported and leave their children behind?
If I snuck into Ireland and got my butt booted out (which they would 100% do,) I would not leave my minor children in another country. If they were in college or in the Irish military, sure, but it wouldn't be "tearing the family apart."
If the kids are citizens, they can come back when they're 18. If they aren't, well, you had a nice run.
If I snuck into Ireland and got my butt booted out (which they would 100% do,) I would not leave my minor children in another country. If they were in college or in the Irish military, sure, but it wouldn't be "tearing the family apart."
If the kids are citizens, they can come back when they're 18. If they aren't, well, you had a nice run.
Posted by: VKI at September 05, 2017 02:30 PM (qySNZ)
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grrrr. {|-8 )}
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 05, 2017 02:30 PM (ctuyM)
150
Posted by: Jen the original at September 05, 2017 02:28 PM (/Qs0S)
Doesn't serving honorably in the US armed forces automatically confer citizenship?
Doesn't serving honorably in the US armed forces automatically confer citizenship?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:30 PM (SRKgf)
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DACA will expire just in time for the primary season. If Republicans in the Congress want it that bad, approving border wall funding can be something that the President insists upon for his signature. If they balk at that, he can veto and they'll be on record as opposing border security.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at September 05, 2017 02:31 PM (xYlPP)
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So, Congress has had over 6 months to repeal Obamacare, fund and start building the wall, strengthen border security, pass tax cuts-
yet has done none of that for the citizens of America and the voters of the Republican Party.
But, now....they're going to get something accomplished, which Americans don't want for illegal aliens breaking the law?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
It's a trap!
If they do anything anything on the DACA, even a 2 year lame-ass extension,
they can kiss their cushy jobs good-bye.
Why keep them in place if we're going to get the same policies as we'd get from the Dims?
No reason at all.
I hope there's some really great primary opponents for these lame-asses....so I don't have to vote Dim or stay home.
But, if they do nothing for us...they must be punished. They must go home.
Nice move by Trump.
yet has done none of that for the citizens of America and the voters of the Republican Party.
But, now....they're going to get something accomplished, which Americans don't want for illegal aliens breaking the law?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
It's a trap!
If they do anything anything on the DACA, even a 2 year lame-ass extension,
they can kiss their cushy jobs good-bye.
Why keep them in place if we're going to get the same policies as we'd get from the Dims?
No reason at all.
I hope there's some really great primary opponents for these lame-asses....so I don't have to vote Dim or stay home.
But, if they do nothing for us...they must be punished. They must go home.
Nice move by Trump.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 05, 2017 02:31 PM (9q7Dl)
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Doesn't serving honorably in the US armed forces automatically confer citizenship?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Yep. And makes immediate family eligible to enter the process.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Yep. And makes immediate family eligible to enter the process.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 02:31 PM (2wRtc)
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jen, whose ID were used during that only illegally Here experience?
Banks?
car dealerships frauded.
corps frauded.
unions frauded
stolen idendities
welfare, ebt, section 8 ,
not just came illegally
Banks?
car dealerships frauded.
corps frauded.
unions frauded
stolen idendities
welfare, ebt, section 8 ,
not just came illegally
Posted by: willow at September 05, 2017 02:31 PM (FKrah)
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147
many use fake ID, fake SS. and change them occasionally for bad credit reasons
Posted by: willow
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They would have to prove their identity. Just like me.
Any fraudulent activity is grounds for ID theft charges and deportation.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 02:30 PM (2wRtc)
Please, and thank you. Wrong is wrong. Period.
many use fake ID, fake SS. and change them occasionally for bad credit reasons
Posted by: willow
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They would have to prove their identity. Just like me.
Any fraudulent activity is grounds for ID theft charges and deportation.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 02:30 PM (2wRtc)
Please, and thank you. Wrong is wrong. Period.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 05, 2017 02:31 PM (jxbfJ)
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Posted by: Jen the original at September 05, 2017 02:28 PM (/Qs0S)
Yes, so lets reward their STEALING our Tax dollars, through the education system....
By giving them a path to American citizenship...
Oh, and reward their PARENTS too... because even IF we start expulsion proceedings against them, they will get head of the line to get back in, as having an American citizen Child....
Yes, so lets reward their STEALING our Tax dollars, through the education system....
By giving them a path to American citizenship...
Oh, and reward their PARENTS too... because even IF we start expulsion proceedings against them, they will get head of the line to get back in, as having an American citizen Child....
Posted by: Don Quixote channeling Cassandra at September 05, 2017 02:32 PM (NgKpN)
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Doesn't serving honorably in the US armed forces automatically confer citizenship?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:30 PM (SRKgf)
Apparently not. I copied that directly from the US Homeland Security site for Immigration.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:30 PM (SRKgf)
Apparently not. I copied that directly from the US Homeland Security site for Immigration.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 05, 2017 02:32 PM (/Qs0S)
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>>Answer them in some other language than English OR Spanish. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:28 PM (SRKgf)
Or use the time-tested technique: Speak slower, louder, and e-nun-ci-ate ev-e-ry word. In English. The brutes must be made to speak the language of the conqueror. Or, in their language, the "lingua de la conquistadores."
Or use the time-tested technique: Speak slower, louder, and e-nun-ci-ate ev-e-ry word. In English. The brutes must be made to speak the language of the conqueror. Or, in their language, the "lingua de la conquistadores."
Posted by: Zod at September 05, 2017 02:32 PM (Bdeb0)
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saying that I do have sympathy for the children, as I do for any children that get Caught up in their Parents criminal activities.
Posted by: willow at September 05, 2017 02:33 PM (FKrah)
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Can't all the dreamers just get along?
Posted by: Zombie Rodney King at September 05, 2017 02:33 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: xnycpeasant at September 05, 2017 02:33 PM (QtQaN)
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Or use the time-tested technique: Speak slower, louder, and e-nun-ci-ate ev-e-ry word. In English.
And appenda a vowelo to everya wordo.
And appenda a vowelo to everya wordo.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:33 PM (SRKgf)
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Doesn't serving honorably in the US armed forces automatically confer citizenship?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:30 PM (SRKgf)
I would think That One thing should be applicable for citizenship.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:30 PM (SRKgf)
I would think That One thing should be applicable for citizenship.
Posted by: willow at September 05, 2017 02:33 PM (FKrah)
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The idea of deporting the adult parents while keeping the children in country seems
... like shooting fish in a barrel!
... like shooting fish in a barrel!
Posted by: Harry Reid, the Searchlight Strangler at September 05, 2017 02:34 PM (v+3QR)
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148 Who are these people that get deported and leave their children behind?
____________________________________
Bill Clinton had no problem deporting Elian Gonzalez under the muzzle of a gun to ensure that the Cuban boy remained with his family.
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Bill Clinton had no problem deporting Elian Gonzalez under the muzzle of a gun to ensure that the Cuban boy remained with his family.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 05, 2017 02:34 PM (4AVeu)
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Most of the people who registered for DACA are not "children". They are mostly over 20 years old.
It was amnesty, pure and simple.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 05, 2017 02:27 PM (9xpg1)
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True. In fairness, it is called DACA, not DAC.
It was amnesty, pure and simple.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 05, 2017 02:27 PM (9xpg1)
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True. In fairness, it is called DACA, not DAC.
Posted by: RioBravo at September 05, 2017 02:34 PM (SsblQ)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 05, 2017 02:34 PM (QQ+il)
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Why six months? Why not three, or twelve?
Because this pushes the issue into primary season. The GOP voters will have this issue in front of them and the pressure will be on the officeholders.
This honestly should not be a hard issue to resolve. In exchange for legalizing the Dacaritos, e-Verify, a border barrier, and biometric tracking should be included, along with some other basic commonsense ideas in the RAISE act, such as ending chain migration. We may not get the whole pie, but there's no reason we can't improve the situation.
Of course, the treacherous GOP weasels in Congress will try to find a way, but at least they'll be re-paid with a few tight primary campaigns, and maybe a few will even get the Eric Cantor treatment.
Because this pushes the issue into primary season. The GOP voters will have this issue in front of them and the pressure will be on the officeholders.
This honestly should not be a hard issue to resolve. In exchange for legalizing the Dacaritos, e-Verify, a border barrier, and biometric tracking should be included, along with some other basic commonsense ideas in the RAISE act, such as ending chain migration. We may not get the whole pie, but there's no reason we can't improve the situation.
Of course, the treacherous GOP weasels in Congress will try to find a way, but at least they'll be re-paid with a few tight primary campaigns, and maybe a few will even get the Eric Cantor treatment.
Posted by: Schaeffer at September 05, 2017 02:34 PM (6QGU9)
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121 But on the plus side now you can get a hijab at Target.
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I remember prior to 9/11 all the muslims I knew were actual moderates...and the women dressed like slightly more conservative non-muslim women.
As of today you can't spend time in a major coastal city without see swarms of women in burkas.
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Seeing American women donning hijabs in a show of solidarity makes me ill. Hijab is not a fashion statement you idiots. It stands for oppression of women. And covering up so you don't incite a man with your sexual wiles. And all kinds of stone age thinking. And you don those things and prance around like an enlightened twat. You are an f'ing idiot.
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I remember prior to 9/11 all the muslims I knew were actual moderates...and the women dressed like slightly more conservative non-muslim women.
As of today you can't spend time in a major coastal city without see swarms of women in burkas.
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Seeing American women donning hijabs in a show of solidarity makes me ill. Hijab is not a fashion statement you idiots. It stands for oppression of women. And covering up so you don't incite a man with your sexual wiles. And all kinds of stone age thinking. And you don those things and prance around like an enlightened twat. You are an f'ing idiot.
Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at September 05, 2017 02:34 PM (Rsx2N)
Posted by: willow at September 05, 2017 02:34 PM (FKrah)
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121 But on the plus side now you can get a hijab at Target.
Which has its HQ in Minnesota, land of 10,000 lakes and five million retards.
Which has its HQ in Minnesota, land of 10,000 lakes and five million retards.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:36 PM (SRKgf)
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Seeing American women donning hijabs in a show of solidarity makes me ill. Hijab is not a fashion statement you idiots. It stands for oppression of women. And covering up so you don't incite a man with your sexual wiles. And all kinds of stone age thinking. And you don those things and prance around like an enlightened twat. You are an f'ing idiot.
They just go from being an Infidel Whore to being a covered Infidel Whore.
They just go from being an Infidel Whore to being a covered Infidel Whore.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 05, 2017 02:36 PM (QQ+il)
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By giving them a path to American citizenship...
Oh, and reward their PARENTS too... because even IF we start expulsion proceedings against them, they will get head of the line to get back in, as having an American citizen Child....
Posted by: Don Quixote channeling Cassandra at September 05, 2017 02:32 PM (NgKpN)
Yes, I know were are talking about Congress here, but why would granting these people immunity from deportation mean they have to be given citizenship? There are many permanent residents of the US who never become citizens.
Let them have green cards that can flow to permanent residency if they abide by those rules and then prohibit them from applying for citizenship for a period of ten or twenty years or however long they were here before whatever new law is enacted.
Oh, and reward their PARENTS too... because even IF we start expulsion proceedings against them, they will get head of the line to get back in, as having an American citizen Child....
Posted by: Don Quixote channeling Cassandra at September 05, 2017 02:32 PM (NgKpN)
Yes, I know were are talking about Congress here, but why would granting these people immunity from deportation mean they have to be given citizenship? There are many permanent residents of the US who never become citizens.
Let them have green cards that can flow to permanent residency if they abide by those rules and then prohibit them from applying for citizenship for a period of ten or twenty years or however long they were here before whatever new law is enacted.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 05, 2017 02:36 PM (/Qs0S)
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Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:33 PM
FIFY. Let's not be hateful genderists.
It's not who we are.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:33 PM
FIFY. Let's not be hateful genderists.
It's not who we are.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 05, 2017 02:36 PM (ctuyM)
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>>Seeing American women donning hijabs in a show of
solidarity makes me ill. Hijab is not a fashion statement you idiots.
It stands for oppression of women. Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at September 05, 2017 02:34 PM (Rsx2N)
It also advertises that the woman who has been wearing it, all day in warm weather, probably smells like a tainted cheese, and isn't worth fucking anyway.
solidarity makes me ill. Hijab is not a fashion statement you idiots.
It stands for oppression of women. Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at September 05, 2017 02:34 PM (Rsx2N)
It also advertises that the woman who has been wearing it, all day in warm weather, probably smells like a tainted cheese, and isn't worth fucking anyway.
Posted by: Zod at September 05, 2017 02:36 PM (Bdeb0)
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As somebody mentioned earlier : we need to kick some bucks to Dr. Kelli Ward who is challenging Flake in Arizona.
And every other primary challenger like her.
And every other primary challenger like her.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 02:37 PM (2wRtc)
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111 Shit - Trump is really calling out Congress. Now they have to create something and vote for it. Now I know why they hate Trump so.
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Remember when Congress used to actually take tough votes on bills because their voters wanted them to? Well, the Democrats do that...but I mean the Republicans.
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Meh, it was the Dems in 2011 that castrated representative government. See Harry Reid. He tabled those 350+ bills not because they wouldn't gain Dem support, but rather, because they would have gained Dem support.
Not saying Pubbies are Profiles in Courage, but they will serve the process while Dems are determined to subvert it.
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Remember when Congress used to actually take tough votes on bills because their voters wanted them to? Well, the Democrats do that...but I mean the Republicans.
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Meh, it was the Dems in 2011 that castrated representative government. See Harry Reid. He tabled those 350+ bills not because they wouldn't gain Dem support, but rather, because they would have gained Dem support.
Not saying Pubbies are Profiles in Courage, but they will serve the process while Dems are determined to subvert it.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 05, 2017 02:37 PM (YV+SU)
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I am for lawful immigration. But I am also not a big fan of screwing over a bunch of people to whom the gov has not just turned a blind eye, but has purposefully enticed and encouraged to be here via a totally ignored immigration system
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Jen, serious question:
If the kids are old enough to work, what SS#s are they using?
I am for lawful immigration. But I am also not a big fan of screwing over a bunch of people to whom the gov has not just turned a blind eye, but has purposefully enticed and encouraged to be here via a totally ignored immigration system
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Jen, serious question:
If the kids are old enough to work, what SS#s are they using?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 05, 2017 02:37 PM (rjrh3)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 05, 2017 02:37 PM (gIRsn)
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CA means arrived before 16th birthday.
Posted by: RioBravo at September 05, 2017 02:37 PM (SsblQ)
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170 children= 26 or under.
right?
Posted by: willow at September 05, 2017 02:34 PM (FKrah)
Their goal is to make a child of all of us so they can be the parent.
right?
Posted by: willow at September 05, 2017 02:34 PM (FKrah)
Their goal is to make a child of all of us so they can be the parent.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at September 05, 2017 02:37 PM (RD7QR)
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121 But on the plus side now you can get a hijab at Target.
Does Target also sell sticks for beating your wife with?
Does Target also sell sticks for beating your wife with?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:37 PM (SRKgf)
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>>>As of today you can't spend time in a major coastal city without see swarms of women in burkas
To be fair I think most of them will look better in burkas than yoga pants.
To be fair I think most of them will look better in burkas than yoga pants.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 05, 2017 02:38 PM (1v97/)
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Minnesota ... five million retards.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:36 PM
It's the cheese.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:36 PM
It's the cheese.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 05, 2017 02:38 PM (ctuyM)
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Why are you speaking Italian to them?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 05, 2017 02:37 PM (gIRsn)
Italian, Spanish, what's the difference?
I can speak French, too. Just stick out your lower lip a la Maurice Chevalier. Nothing to it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 05, 2017 02:37 PM (gIRsn)
Italian, Spanish, what's the difference?
I can speak French, too. Just stick out your lower lip a la Maurice Chevalier. Nothing to it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:39 PM (SRKgf)
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>>>Does Target also sell sticks for beating your wife with?
Target? Shit, those things grow on trees!
Target? Shit, those things grow on trees!
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 05, 2017 02:39 PM (1v97/)
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Seeing American women donning hijabs in a show of solidarity makes me ill. Hijab is not a fashion statement you idiots. It stands for oppression of women. And covering up so you don't incite a man with your sexual wiles. And all kinds of stone age thinking. And you don those things and prance around like an enlightened twat. You are an f'ing idiot.
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Funny, I don't hear their choruses of harpies screaming "cultural appropriation."
Interesting that.
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Funny, I don't hear their choruses of harpies screaming "cultural appropriation."
Interesting that.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 05, 2017 02:39 PM (vg8iE)
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As of today you can't spend time in a major coastal city without see swarms of women in burkas.
Not just major coastal cities. I went to the Renton, WA Target the other day (population 100K). There were more burka-clad women than not.
Not just major coastal cities. I went to the Renton, WA Target the other day (population 100K). There were more burka-clad women than not.
Posted by: bonhomme at September 05, 2017 02:39 PM (jhqr1)
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I dreamt I was President. I woke up sharting. *hic*
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at September 05, 2017 02:40 PM (Tyii7)
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Does Target also sell sticks for beating your wife with?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:37 PM (SRKgf)
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Aisle 4
Fingernail Clippers
Toenail Clippers
Emery Boards
Eyelash Curlers
Clit Clippers
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:37 PM (SRKgf)
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Aisle 4
Fingernail Clippers
Toenail Clippers
Emery Boards
Eyelash Curlers
Clit Clippers
Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 05, 2017 02:40 PM (vg8iE)
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Yeah, I am a hard harted old b!tch, but, I say,
NO DACA, NO Form of DACA,
NOT one little bit of DACA.
Why? Because everyone thinks Uncle Sugar is a softie and that if they can just figure out a way to tug on the heart strings of the American people, we will cave again to their illegal acts, and then 20 years later again. NO MORE ILLEGAL STUNTS WITH A HUGE PAY OFF. NO MORE.
NO DACA, NO Form of DACA,
NOT one little bit of DACA.
Why? Because everyone thinks Uncle Sugar is a softie and that if they can just figure out a way to tug on the heart strings of the American people, we will cave again to their illegal acts, and then 20 years later again. NO MORE ILLEGAL STUNTS WITH A HUGE PAY OFF. NO MORE.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is a cranky GF hag, thank you very much. at September 05, 2017 02:40 PM (kXoT0)
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But I am also not a big fan of screwing over a bunch of people to whom the gov has not just turned a blind eye, but has purposefully enticed and encouraged to be here via a totally ignored immigration system
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And what of the non-Hispanics from othe rcountries who have patiently waited their turn?
We reward the burglar and screw the customer?
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And what of the non-Hispanics from othe rcountries who have patiently waited their turn?
We reward the burglar and screw the customer?
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 02:40 PM (2wRtc)
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I wondered how Kurt Schlicter and Ace would respond to Trump caving on DACA and hiding behind Paul Ryan's skirts.
I guess I have my answer.
It seems pretty obvious at this point that those in the Trump personality cult don't care much about results as much as they do about attacking "TruCons" just as the "NeverTrumpers" they despise don't care so much about results or rule of law either. Two sides of the same coin.
I guess I have my answer.
It seems pretty obvious at this point that those in the Trump personality cult don't care much about results as much as they do about attacking "TruCons" just as the "NeverTrumpers" they despise don't care so much about results or rule of law either. Two sides of the same coin.
Posted by: gwelf at September 05, 2017 02:40 PM (Wioda)
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Selling garments that are native to countries where violent extremist terrorism thrives. . and the store is called "Target."
F*cking genius.
F*cking genius.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 05, 2017 02:41 PM (4AVeu)
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Yeah, I am a hard harted old b!tch, but, I say,
NO DACA, NO Form of DACA,
NOT one little bit of DACA.
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You and me both. I don't give a fuck. If the shoe was on the other foot, neither would they.
Like I say at work, "I'm not paid to care."
NO DACA, NO Form of DACA,
NOT one little bit of DACA.
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You and me both. I don't give a fuck. If the shoe was on the other foot, neither would they.
Like I say at work, "I'm not paid to care."
Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 05, 2017 02:41 PM (vg8iE)
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But I am also not a big fan of screwing over a bunch of people to whom the gov has not just turned a blind eye, but has purposefully enticed and encouraged to be here via a totally ignored immigration system
I am.
I am.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 05, 2017 02:41 PM (QQ+il)
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Does Target also sell sticks for beating your wife with?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:37 PM (SRKgf)
I could see a cross-marketing opportunity for Louisville Slugger.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:37 PM (SRKgf)
I could see a cross-marketing opportunity for Louisville Slugger.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:41 PM (SRKgf)
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Clit Clippers
Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 05, 2017 02:40 PM
You can find it?
Could you, uh, share some, ah, directions?
Asking for a friend.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 05, 2017 02:40 PM
You can find it?
Could you, uh, share some, ah, directions?
Asking for a friend.
Posted by: J. Random Moron at September 05, 2017 02:42 PM (ctuyM)
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And a severely conservative conservative appears. Later, the self-flagellation. We are unworthy.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at September 05, 2017 02:42 PM (RD7QR)
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The nice thing about getting a Burkha at Target is you can waddle on over to the Automotive Section and get a PineTree Air Freshener to hang from your garter.
Posted by: garrett at September 05, 2017 02:42 PM (w1UeV)
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Jen, serious question:
If the kids are old enough to work, what SS#s are they using?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 05, 2017 02:37 PM (rjrh3)
I honestly don't know. To qualify for DACA status, your "kid" either has to have graduated from HS, college, be currently enrolled, or be in the US armed forces or honorably discharged. ALL of the above require a SS # for enrollement.
Colleges for years now have not only said they won't discriminate due to immigration status, but many states have allowed illegals to pay the same as legal residents.
They simply ignore that requirement. I assume they just make up an ID number, as does the military.
This is why I am saying that the entire US gov is at fault that these people are here .
If the kids are old enough to work, what SS#s are they using?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 05, 2017 02:37 PM (rjrh3)
I honestly don't know. To qualify for DACA status, your "kid" either has to have graduated from HS, college, be currently enrolled, or be in the US armed forces or honorably discharged. ALL of the above require a SS # for enrollement.
Colleges for years now have not only said they won't discriminate due to immigration status, but many states have allowed illegals to pay the same as legal residents.
They simply ignore that requirement. I assume they just make up an ID number, as does the military.
This is why I am saying that the entire US gov is at fault that these people are here .
Posted by: Jen the original at September 05, 2017 02:42 PM (/Qs0S)
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Presdent Obama should do something to stop this !!! Trump and Persons of coler died.......
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro at September 05, 2017 02:42 PM (WmgTn)
Posted by: The Man in the Boat at September 05, 2017 02:43 PM (Tyii7)
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I understand the Horde's cynicism on this, but this has the feel of Trump taking "hostages" to get the wall, and possibly the RAISE act done at a minimum, and a flushing out of his opposition in the hopes of primarying them at a maximum (what Sundance at CTH calls "The Big Ugly). Like alot of things TGE does, I'm taking a wait and see position. I agree with one of the commenters upthread: had he killed it all today, the surrender monkeys in Congress would have attached DACA to a "must pass" bill like Harvey relief or the debt celing. Lets see how things develop before screaming "BETRAYAL!!!!!1111!!!1111" at Trump.
Posted by: Jackal at September 05, 2017 02:44 PM (EByLO)
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200 The nice thing about getting a Burkha at Target is you can waddle on over to the Automotive Section and get a PineTree Air Freshener to hang from your garter.
Posted by: garrett at September 05, 2017 02:42 PM (w1UeV)
The fact that a major love interest of Muslims is goats, who are ... uh ... fragrant in their own right, has to tell you something.
Posted by: garrett at September 05, 2017 02:42 PM (w1UeV)
The fact that a major love interest of Muslims is goats, who are ... uh ... fragrant in their own right, has to tell you something.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:44 PM (SRKgf)
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Let them have green cards that can flow to permanent residency if they abide by those rules and then prohibit them from applying for citizenship for a period of ten or twenty years or however long they were here before whatever new law is enacted.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 05, 2017 02:36 PM (/Qs0S)
So, in other words, amnesty.
Which, hey, fine, you are being honest about your position and I respect that.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 05, 2017 02:36 PM (/Qs0S)
So, in other words, amnesty.
Which, hey, fine, you are being honest about your position and I respect that.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 02:44 PM (mf5HN)
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>>200
The nice thing about getting a Burkha at Target is you can waddle on
over to the Automotive Section and get a PineTree Air Freshener to hang
from your garter. Posted by: garrett at September 05, 2017 02:42 PM (w1UeV)
And you get to pee in the Women's room. Or the Men's room. Or whatever.
The nice thing about getting a Burkha at Target is you can waddle on
over to the Automotive Section and get a PineTree Air Freshener to hang
from your garter. Posted by: garrett at September 05, 2017 02:42 PM (w1UeV)
And you get to pee in the Women's room. Or the Men's room. Or whatever.
Posted by: Zod at September 05, 2017 02:44 PM (Bdeb0)
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A DACA bill would have to start in the House. EVERYONE in House up for re-election next year. Most Americans do NOT support amnesty. Watch no bill come out of House to deal with this in 2017 or 2018.
Posted by: K-E at September 05, 2017 02:45 PM (I4w14)
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And what of the non-Hispanics from othe rcountries who have patiently waited their turn?
We reward the burglar and screw the customer?
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 02:40 PM (2wRtc)
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And that's it. Why do those who do the right thing get fucked over? I guess in that respect, they're getting their assimilation good and hard - getting fucked over like the rest of the native population.
No more.
People wait YEARS and pay thousands, if not tens of thousands, to get in here. I guess it's OK to take a big steaming shit right into their mouths.
You shouldn't be fucking rewarded for breaking the law.
We reward the burglar and screw the customer?
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 02:40 PM (2wRtc)
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And that's it. Why do those who do the right thing get fucked over? I guess in that respect, they're getting their assimilation good and hard - getting fucked over like the rest of the native population.
No more.
People wait YEARS and pay thousands, if not tens of thousands, to get in here. I guess it's OK to take a big steaming shit right into their mouths.
You shouldn't be fucking rewarded for breaking the law.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 05, 2017 02:45 PM (vg8iE)
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 02:45 PM (2wRtc)
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The fact that a major love interest of Muslims is
goats, who are ... uh ... fragrant in their own right, has to tell you
something.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:44 PM
What am I, chopped liver?
goats, who are ... uh ... fragrant in their own right, has to tell you
something.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:44 PM
What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: The Moroccan Donkey at September 05, 2017 02:46 PM (ctuyM)
Posted by: garrett at September 05, 2017 02:46 PM (w1UeV)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 05, 2017 02:46 PM (j/Mlu)
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This is why I am saying that the entire US gov is at fault that these people are here .
Posted by: Jen the original at September 05, 2017 02:42 PM (/Qs0S)
That's not an answer to the question.
I'll ask it again.
If those who qualify for DACA have used a SSN that was improperly obtained, should they still qualify for DACA, yes or no?
Posted by: Jen the original at September 05, 2017 02:42 PM (/Qs0S)
That's not an answer to the question.
I'll ask it again.
If those who qualify for DACA have used a SSN that was improperly obtained, should they still qualify for DACA, yes or no?
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 02:46 PM (mf5HN)
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Your concern has been noted by top men.
Top. Men.
Posted by: garrett at September 05, 2017 02:46 PM (w1UeV)
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I wasn't on top last night, but I'm still concerned.
Top. Men.
Posted by: garrett at September 05, 2017 02:46 PM (w1UeV)
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I wasn't on top last night, but I'm still concerned.
Posted by: Barry O! at September 05, 2017 02:47 PM (vg8iE)
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>>People wait YEARS and pay thousands, if not tens of thousands, to get in here. I guess it's OK to take a big steaming shit right into their mouths.
If I bring my own Hooker and Champagne, is there a corking fee?
If I bring my own Hooker and Champagne, is there a corking fee?
Posted by: Steve Croft at September 05, 2017 02:47 PM (w1UeV)
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So, in other words, amnesty.
Yep. We're boned. Because there will be another, then another, and then it won't matter anymore.
Yep. We're boned. Because there will be another, then another, and then it won't matter anymore.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 05, 2017 02:48 PM (QQ+il)
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182 121 But on the plus side now you can get a hijab at Target.
Does Target also sell sticks for beating your wife with?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:37 PM (SRKgf)
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Stay tuned for that item in our Capsule Collection by Angela Merkel. There will also be rocks and stones, all designed colorfully. You can also get them with days of the week painted on them. A different fashion stone for every day of the week.
Does Target also sell sticks for beating your wife with?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 02:37 PM (SRKgf)
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Stay tuned for that item in our Capsule Collection by Angela Merkel. There will also be rocks and stones, all designed colorfully. You can also get them with days of the week painted on them. A different fashion stone for every day of the week.
Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at September 05, 2017 02:48 PM (Rsx2N)
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Punt that can!
Punt that can!
Punt that can!
Punt that can!
Punt that can!
Punt that can!
Punt that can!
Punt that can!
F'in dick weeds
Punt that can!
Punt that can!
Punt that can!
Punt that can!
Punt that can!
Punt that can!
Punt that can!
F'in dick weeds
Posted by: Skip at September 05, 2017 02:49 PM (pPKG5)
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Yep. We're boned. Because there will be another, then another, and then it won't matter anymore.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 05, 2017 02:48 PM (QQ+il)
RHESUS MONKEY SCREECHING ACTIVATED
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I WANT COOKIES
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Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 05, 2017 02:48 PM (QQ+il)
RHESUS MONKEY SCREECHING ACTIVATED
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I WANT COOKIES
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Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 02:49 PM (mf5HN)
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This is why I am saying that the entire US gov is at fault that these people are here .
Posted by: Jen the original at September 05, 2017 02:42 PM (/Qs0S)
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We had deferred action for years. Then Obama put it in writing. Now just look at the mess!
Posted by: Jen the original at September 05, 2017 02:42 PM (/Qs0S)
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We had deferred action for years. Then Obama put it in writing. Now just look at the mess!
Posted by: RioBravo at September 05, 2017 02:50 PM (SsblQ)
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As someone who has had their identity stolen, all these mofo's can have the choice of going back to their home country or be shot.
9 mos. in and I am still dealing with this.
9 mos. in and I am still dealing with this.
Posted by: Infidel at September 05, 2017 02:50 PM (mxS7w)
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"But on the plus side now you can get a hijab at Target."
EBT transactions amount to a startlingly large part of the net profit recorded by those big-box retailers. You can imagine the executives of such companies are panting with pleasure at the thought of many Muslim "refugee" families on EBT.
Dad, three wives, and eighteen kids. Ka-ching!
EBT transactions amount to a startlingly large part of the net profit recorded by those big-box retailers. You can imagine the executives of such companies are panting with pleasure at the thought of many Muslim "refugee" families on EBT.
Dad, three wives, and eighteen kids. Ka-ching!
Posted by: torquewrench at September 05, 2017 02:50 PM (ujwCG)
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If I bring my own Hooker and Champagne, is there a corking fee?
Posted by: Steve Croft at September 05, 2017 02:47 PM
No, but depending on who the Hooker is, there may be a General fee.
Posted by: Steve Croft at September 05, 2017 02:47 PM
No, but depending on who the Hooker is, there may be a General fee.
Posted by: The Concierge for The Barrel at September 05, 2017 02:50 PM (ctuyM)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 05, 2017 02:51 PM (Nwg0u)
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1986
Posted by: alexthechick
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Even the best we had couldn't avoid it. It does look inevitable.
But...Trump.
Posted by: alexthechick
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Even the best we had couldn't avoid it. It does look inevitable.
But...Trump.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 02:51 PM (2wRtc)
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I never charge a corking fee.
Posted by: Sandra Flook at September 05, 2017 02:51 PM (Tyii7)
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>>>Pilate obliged them, but made certain they well-understood that he was enforcing their law for them, not the laws of Rome.
Whether Pilate was just reluctant to get mixed up in local politics, or whether he was being savvy (and I've heard both theories), the point is, he wanted to distance himself from the matter for political considerations - he had no principles. "What is truth?" So he has much more in common with Democrats or GOPe than with Trump.
Whether Pilate was just reluctant to get mixed up in local politics, or whether he was being savvy (and I've heard both theories), the point is, he wanted to distance himself from the matter for political considerations - he had no principles. "What is truth?" So he has much more in common with Democrats or GOPe than with Trump.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 05, 2017 02:51 PM (/qEW2)
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Posted by: gwelf
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I give that pitiful bleating comment 4.7 mccains out of a possible 5.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 02:45 PM (2wRtc)
Ha ha ha. Sure. Trump didn't end DACA when he could which puts him on the McCain side of this issue.As for my bleating...I just find the whole EverTrump vs NeverTrump thing tiresome at this point. Kurt Schlicter writes the same column every week. And Ace as well.Maybe Ace and Kurt could spice things up and actually name names about the NeverTrumpers their talking about.
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I give that pitiful bleating comment 4.7 mccains out of a possible 5.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 02:45 PM (2wRtc)
Ha ha ha. Sure. Trump didn't end DACA when he could which puts him on the McCain side of this issue.As for my bleating...I just find the whole EverTrump vs NeverTrump thing tiresome at this point. Kurt Schlicter writes the same column every week. And Ace as well.Maybe Ace and Kurt could spice things up and actually name names about the NeverTrumpers their talking about.
Posted by: gwelf at September 05, 2017 02:52 PM (Wioda)
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 02:53 PM (2wRtc)
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>>People wait YEARS and pay thousands, if not tens
of thousands, to get in here. I guess it's OK to take a big steaming
shit right into their mouths.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 05, 2017 02:45 PM (vg8iE)
You have to admit, the look of shocked outrage is rare.
of thousands, to get in here. I guess it's OK to take a big steaming
shit right into their mouths.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 05, 2017 02:45 PM (vg8iE)
You have to admit, the look of shocked outrage is rare.
Posted by: Zod at September 05, 2017 02:53 PM (Bdeb0)
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Obama is a master criminal and should be in federal prison.
Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 05, 2017 02:53 PM (it+WZ)
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If we must have DACA, then:
1. No college breaks that benefit them more than the children of American citizens, to wit:
No special admissions quotas or set asides
No in state tuition
No scholarships other than merit--that includes athletics
etc
2. No welfare benefits. If you want to stay, you must pay your way.
3. No citizenship E-V-E-R...just a green card.
4. You must not be a burden on the taxpayer. No ESL beyond 1 year. If you want to go to school, even kindergarten, you pay.
5. No free health care.
6. No gang affiliations or crimes. You commit a crime, your DREAM IS OVER.
7. Nothing free. Period.
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Right now, we are telling every other poor child in the world that we choose the children of people who broke our laws to reward with the Golden Ticket.
Once being a Dreamer isn't a huge chunk of benefits, then there is no incentive to drag your kids here.
1. No college breaks that benefit them more than the children of American citizens, to wit:
No special admissions quotas or set asides
No in state tuition
No scholarships other than merit--that includes athletics
etc
2. No welfare benefits. If you want to stay, you must pay your way.
3. No citizenship E-V-E-R...just a green card.
4. You must not be a burden on the taxpayer. No ESL beyond 1 year. If you want to go to school, even kindergarten, you pay.
5. No free health care.
6. No gang affiliations or crimes. You commit a crime, your DREAM IS OVER.
7. Nothing free. Period.
----------
Right now, we are telling every other poor child in the world that we choose the children of people who broke our laws to reward with the Golden Ticket.
Once being a Dreamer isn't a huge chunk of benefits, then there is no incentive to drag your kids here.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is a cranky GF hag, thank you very much. at September 05, 2017 02:54 PM (kXoT0)
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I just love a good bleat. *hic*
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at September 05, 2017 02:54 PM (Tyii7)
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>>.Maybe Ace and Kurt could spice things up and actually name names
about the NeverTrumpers their talking about. Posted by: gwelf at September 05, 2017 02:52 PM (Wioda)
Yes, maybe. Now maybe you could spice things up and actually kneel.
about the NeverTrumpers their talking about. Posted by: gwelf at September 05, 2017 02:52 PM (Wioda)
Yes, maybe. Now maybe you could spice things up and actually kneel.
Posted by: Zod at September 05, 2017 02:55 PM (Bdeb0)
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Does this mean Sessions goes back to his nest and hibernates for another 6 months?
Posted by: Under Fire at September 05, 2017 02:55 PM (mcI77)
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Of course, you know that every illegal alien that claims to have a SSN is using someone ELSE'S SSN. That's called......ummmmm......oh yeah, identity theft.
And as to where they're getting the SSNs? Let's put it this way, all those storefront "Immigration Abogado" signs basically translate into "SSNs Are Us".
Of course, you know that every illegal alien that claims to have a SSN is using someone ELSE'S SSN. That's called......ummmmm......oh yeah, identity theft.
And as to where they're getting the SSNs? Let's put it this way, all those storefront "Immigration Abogado" signs basically translate into "SSNs Are Us".
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 05, 2017 02:55 PM (veoSD)
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If those who qualify for DACA have used a SSN that was improperly obtained, should they still qualify for DACA, yes or no?
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 02:46 PM (mf5HN)
No. See 233.6.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 02:46 PM (mf5HN)
No. See 233.6.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is a cranky GF hag, thank you very much. at September 05, 2017 02:56 PM (kXoT0)
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I keep getting hung up on the illegal part here.
Give not one shit about how old the kids are, THEY and their parents are here ILLEGALLY.
Out. Right damn now. Been here 15 or so years with no attempt to naturalize, then you have no intent to do so.
Get out. Right damn now. Don't anybody squeak about the kids, that's bullshit and you fucked them to begin with, so shut up.
Just get out. Right damn now.
I keep getting hung up on the illegal part here.
Give not one shit about how old the kids are, THEY and their parents are here ILLEGALLY.
Out. Right damn now. Been here 15 or so years with no attempt to naturalize, then you have no intent to do so.
Get out. Right damn now. Don't anybody squeak about the kids, that's bullshit and you fucked them to begin with, so shut up.
Just get out. Right damn now.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 05, 2017 02:56 PM (S/hVx)
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153 Doesn't serving honorably in the US armed forces automatically confer citizenship?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Yep. And makes immediate family eligible to enter the process.
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No, it does not. A Canadian in my unit served several years and he applied for US citizenship and was denied. He was pretty bitter about it. Maybe things have changed since then but I doubt it.
The Draft factors into this at one level. How many foreign nationals/illegal aliens are registering for the draft? Not many, I'd wager.
The government has diluted what it means to be a Citizen. There are many things that seem to point towards the superiority of an "all volunteer" military. I say BS. A Draft puts everyone with skin in the game, and the average person might pay attention to what our government foreign policy really entails.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Yep. And makes immediate family eligible to enter the process.
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No, it does not. A Canadian in my unit served several years and he applied for US citizenship and was denied. He was pretty bitter about it. Maybe things have changed since then but I doubt it.
The Draft factors into this at one level. How many foreign nationals/illegal aliens are registering for the draft? Not many, I'd wager.
The government has diluted what it means to be a Citizen. There are many things that seem to point towards the superiority of an "all volunteer" military. I say BS. A Draft puts everyone with skin in the game, and the average person might pay attention to what our government foreign policy really entails.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 05, 2017 02:56 PM (PmAu7)
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. I assume they just make up an ID number, as does the military.
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That's fraud, though. Why I couldn't easily file my taxes two years ago.
Grounds for removal, and good riddance.
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That's fraud, though. Why I couldn't easily file my taxes two years ago.
Grounds for removal, and good riddance.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 05, 2017 02:56 PM (G0Dbd)
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Does this mean Sessions goes back to his nest and hibernates for another 6 months?
Posted by: Under Fire at September 05, 2017 02:55 PM
Huhhh, uh, wha .... zzzzzzzzzzzz.
Posted by: Under Fire at September 05, 2017 02:55 PM
Huhhh, uh, wha .... zzzzzzzzzzzz.
Posted by: zombie Thad Cochran at September 05, 2017 02:57 PM (ctuyM)
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spice things up and actually name names
Editorial positions that are written to by whole media organizations have individual personal names, and no matter how obvious the editorial position, must still be named by those names? Even if it's exactly the same crew of fuckmonkeys as the last week, and the week before?
Who knew?
Editorial positions that are written to by whole media organizations have individual personal names, and no matter how obvious the editorial position, must still be named by those names? Even if it's exactly the same crew of fuckmonkeys as the last week, and the week before?
Who knew?
Posted by: Sporkatus at September 05, 2017 02:57 PM (HtLSE)
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Ahhh, the sweet smell of corruption at work. So, when has our representative government represented us lately? We owe a trillion dollars to our chief geopolitical adversary, the NORKS and Iranians have been gifted the ability to nuke us at will, our culture is a sloppy mess of drug abuse, obesity, "gender nonconformity", and sports idolatry that would make Nero blush. Meanwhile, our wonderful leaders in Washington are busily replacing us with a compliant, docile and reliably complacent population that will sit down and shut up when commanded to do so by their social betters."We've all but killed the 1st Ammendment, and destroyed the 4th. Get rid of the 2nd Ammenment, and we can really make some progress..." Sort of make me want to paint some eagles, John Wayne quotes and Murrikan flags on the side of my house...not really. Makes me teach for myThom Paine....
Posted by: ErikInTexas at September 05, 2017 02:57 PM (mIJ9W)
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Posted by: gwelf at September 05, 2017 02:52 PM (Wioda)
*mournful music plays* *maybe Sarah McLachlan or something*
Every day at the HQ there are those who have lost their spaces.
Tragic souls, they wander through, posting comments whose dearth of adequate spacing, forays into alternate punctuation and lack of grammatical propriety brings a tear to the eye of even the harshest soul.
For only $9.95 per month, payable to Happy Fun, LLC, you, too, can support those in distress. Your modest donation will keep alexthechick in lemon bars and throat lozenges.
*big sad puppy eyes*
Won't you think of the AtC?
*In The Arms of An Angels fades out*
*mournful music plays* *maybe Sarah McLachlan or something*
Every day at the HQ there are those who have lost their spaces.
Tragic souls, they wander through, posting comments whose dearth of adequate spacing, forays into alternate punctuation and lack of grammatical propriety brings a tear to the eye of even the harshest soul.
For only $9.95 per month, payable to Happy Fun, LLC, you, too, can support those in distress. Your modest donation will keep alexthechick in lemon bars and throat lozenges.
*big sad puppy eyes*
Won't you think of the AtC?
*In The Arms of An Angels fades out*
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 02:58 PM (mf5HN)
246
dreaming is apparenly banned in Mexico....
Posted by: ErikInTexas at September 05, 2017 02:58 PM (mIJ9W)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 05, 2017 02:58 PM (j/Mlu)
248
And as to where they're getting the SSNs? Let's put
it this way, all those storefront "Immigration Abogado" signs basically
translate into "SSNs Are Us".
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 05, 2017 02:55 PM
But it's the money they're pumping into the SS system that's keeping it solvent, and ready to pay your benefits.
Or something.
it this way, all those storefront "Immigration Abogado" signs basically
translate into "SSNs Are Us".
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 05, 2017 02:55 PM
But it's the money they're pumping into the SS system that's keeping it solvent, and ready to pay your benefits.
Or something.
Posted by: zombie Paul Ryan at September 05, 2017 02:59 PM (ctuyM)
249
Trump is putting Congress in a box. He recognizes that there is a lot of emotion about the DACA thing, and you may say that does not matter but it does. He has now fulfilled a campaign promise that he had earlier appeared to demur on. And he has taken the proper Constitutional action. And put a little lube on it.
Congress may or may not at. If they act with their current level of competence, then DACA dies and all the heat goes on them. If they do fix it - and there are any number of ways to do that, like simply codify the Obama EO or some other way which allows for a legal status short of citizenship - or, pace Kurt Schlichter they actually use it as leverage to get something else, then also a win for Trump.
If they just go out and adopt the Obama language, and get nothing in return, well, the colors are well and truly shown. Republicans lose the House. For sure. Is that a win for Trump I dunno.
Congress may or may not at. If they act with their current level of competence, then DACA dies and all the heat goes on them. If they do fix it - and there are any number of ways to do that, like simply codify the Obama EO or some other way which allows for a legal status short of citizenship - or, pace Kurt Schlichter they actually use it as leverage to get something else, then also a win for Trump.
If they just go out and adopt the Obama language, and get nothing in return, well, the colors are well and truly shown. Republicans lose the House. For sure. Is that a win for Trump I dunno.
Posted by: blaster at September 05, 2017 03:00 PM (lALnC)
250
Virgin Islands governor, RINO who ran as an Independent, doesn't understand the Constitution:
(remove spaces, my work computer doesn't allow url shortners)
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/ 2017/09/john-boch/us-virgin -islands-seizing-residents -guns-ammo-ahead-hurricane/
(remove spaces, my work computer doesn't allow url shortners)
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/ 2017/09/john-boch/us-virgin -islands-seizing-residents -guns-ammo-ahead-hurricane/
Posted by: Country Singer at September 05, 2017 03:00 PM (uiwCw)
251
233 If we must have DACA, then:
1. No college breaks that benefit them more than the children of American citizens, to wit:
No special admissions quotas or set asides
No in state tuition
No scholarships other than merit--that includes athletics
etc
2. No welfare benefits. If you want to stay, you must pay your way.
3. No citizenship E-V-E-R...just a green card.
4. You must not be a burden on the taxpayer. No ESL beyond 1 year. If you want to go to school, even kindergarten, you pay.
5. No free health care.
6. No gang affiliations or crimes. You commit a crime, your DREAM IS OVER.
7. Nothing free. Period.
----------
Right now, we are telling every other poor child in the world that we choose the children of people who broke our laws to reward with the Golden Ticket.
Once being a Dreamer isn't a huge chunk of benefits, then there is no incentive to drag your kids here.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is a cranky GF hag, thank you very much. at September 05, 2017 02:54 PM (kXoT0)
This.
1. No college breaks that benefit them more than the children of American citizens, to wit:
No special admissions quotas or set asides
No in state tuition
No scholarships other than merit--that includes athletics
etc
2. No welfare benefits. If you want to stay, you must pay your way.
3. No citizenship E-V-E-R...just a green card.
4. You must not be a burden on the taxpayer. No ESL beyond 1 year. If you want to go to school, even kindergarten, you pay.
5. No free health care.
6. No gang affiliations or crimes. You commit a crime, your DREAM IS OVER.
7. Nothing free. Period.
----------
Right now, we are telling every other poor child in the world that we choose the children of people who broke our laws to reward with the Golden Ticket.
Once being a Dreamer isn't a huge chunk of benefits, then there is no incentive to drag your kids here.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is a cranky GF hag, thank you very much. at September 05, 2017 02:54 PM (kXoT0)
This.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 03:00 PM (SRKgf)
252
*In The Arms of An Angels fades out*
gwelf has been around for a while, but...
I think the right term might be "forgotten, but not gone".
gwelf has been around for a while, but...
I think the right term might be "forgotten, but not gone".
Posted by: Sporkatus at September 05, 2017 03:00 PM (HtLSE)
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Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 05, 2017 02:51 PM (/qEW2)
Pilate distanced Rome from a Jewish internal religious squabble. There was no good result for Rome to get involved in the wrangling of the Jews over their religion. Picking a side would mean setting off the next Jewish Revolt, something Pilate was there to keep from happening.
Pilate distanced Rome from a Jewish internal religious squabble. There was no good result for Rome to get involved in the wrangling of the Jews over their religion. Picking a side would mean setting off the next Jewish Revolt, something Pilate was there to keep from happening.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Merchandising Fine Harrangues, Declamations, & Despairs since 2012 at September 05, 2017 03:01 PM (hLRSq)
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245 Posted by: gwelf at September 05, 2017 02:52 PM (Wioda)
*mournful music plays* *maybe Sarah McLachlan or something*
Every day at the HQ there are those who have lost their spaces.
Tragic souls, they wander through, posting comments whose dearth of adequate spacing, forays into alternate punctuation and lack of grammatical propriety brings a tear to the eye of even the harshest soul.
For only $9.95 per month, payable to Happy Fun, LLC, you, too, can support those in distress. Your modest donation will keep alexthechick in lemon bars and throat lozenges.
*big sad puppy eyes*
Won't you think of the AtC?
*In The Arms of An Angels fades out*
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 02:58 PM (mf5HN)
============
(Shoves lemon bars and shotguns filled with squirrel shot through USB port)
*mournful music plays* *maybe Sarah McLachlan or something*
Every day at the HQ there are those who have lost their spaces.
Tragic souls, they wander through, posting comments whose dearth of adequate spacing, forays into alternate punctuation and lack of grammatical propriety brings a tear to the eye of even the harshest soul.
For only $9.95 per month, payable to Happy Fun, LLC, you, too, can support those in distress. Your modest donation will keep alexthechick in lemon bars and throat lozenges.
*big sad puppy eyes*
Won't you think of the AtC?
*In The Arms of An Angels fades out*
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 02:58 PM (mf5HN)
============
(Shoves lemon bars and shotguns filled with squirrel shot through USB port)
Posted by: Jackal at September 05, 2017 03:01 PM (EByLO)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 05, 2017 03:01 PM (9MI2a)
256
Corking fees - because even if you BYO they still need a cut
Posted by: Skip at September 05, 2017 03:01 PM (pPKG5)
257
Thank you, Jackal.
Oh and Sporkatus, the proper term for squirrels is Threnace. Both a Threat and a Menace.
Oh and Sporkatus, the proper term for squirrels is Threnace. Both a Threat and a Menace.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 03:02 PM (mf5HN)
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*In The Arms of An Angels fades out*
Posted by: alexthechick
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I actually just watched your commercial as I read. In my brain.
Scary.
*In The Arms of An Angels fades out*
Posted by: alexthechick
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I actually just watched your commercial as I read. In my brain.
Scary.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 03:02 PM (2wRtc)
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Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is a cranky GF hag, thank you very much. at September 05, 2017 02:54 PM (kXoT0)
To your point, Canada recently deported some woman from a Third World country (I've forgotten which) who was working legally as a nurse (IIRC) but was made a quadriplegic when she was struck by a car, because she would then be a burden for the rest of her days.
Nice.
Now that's a little TOO hard-nosed, in my book.
To your point, Canada recently deported some woman from a Third World country (I've forgotten which) who was working legally as a nurse (IIRC) but was made a quadriplegic when she was struck by a car, because she would then be a burden for the rest of her days.
Nice.
Now that's a little TOO hard-nosed, in my book.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 03:02 PM (SRKgf)
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To your point, Canada recently deported some woman from a Third World country (I've forgotten which) who was working legally as a nurse (IIRC) but was made a quadriplegic when she was struck by a car, because she would then be a burden for the rest of her days.
Nice.
Now that's a little TOO hard-nosed, in my book.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 03:02 PM (SRKgf)
Yes, if she was there legally, then that is too harsh.
Nice.
Now that's a little TOO hard-nosed, in my book.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2017 03:02 PM (SRKgf)
Yes, if she was there legally, then that is too harsh.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is a cranky GF hag, thank you very much. at September 05, 2017 03:03 PM (kXoT0)
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>>>To your point, Canada recently deported some woman from a Third World country (I've forgotten which) who was working legally as a nurse (IIRC) but was made a quadriplegic when she was struck by a car, because she would then be a burden for the rest of her days.
How big were her tits?
How big were her tits?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 05, 2017 03:03 PM (1v97/)
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Seeing American women donning hijabs in a show of solidarity makes me ill.
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Lena Dunham, Rosie O'Donnell, Woopie Goldberg, and Rose DeLauro excepted.
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Lena Dunham, Rosie O'Donnell, Woopie Goldberg, and Rose DeLauro excepted.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 05, 2017 03:03 PM (Nwg0u)
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Democrats- " What about the children? "
Big business- "We havd jobs no American will do!"
Rinos -" we can't break up families!"
Big business- "We havd jobs no American will do!"
Rinos -" we can't break up families!"
Posted by: Skip at September 05, 2017 03:03 PM (pPKG5)
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"If you want to go to school, even kindergarten, you pay."
The black-robed radicals have long since enshrined it as immutable federal legal principle that K-12 public education has to be absolutely free of charge for anyone in the country who wants it.
Including apparently now forty-plus-year-olds with their first touch of gray at the temples. As long as they reliably insist to the authorities and educrats that they're really eleven. Honest! Swearsies!
http://tinyurl.com/y8yhhfun
The black-robed radicals have long since enshrined it as immutable federal legal principle that K-12 public education has to be absolutely free of charge for anyone in the country who wants it.
Including apparently now forty-plus-year-olds with their first touch of gray at the temples. As long as they reliably insist to the authorities and educrats that they're really eleven. Honest! Swearsies!
http://tinyurl.com/y8yhhfun
Posted by: torquewrench at September 05, 2017 03:05 PM (ujwCG)
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*big sad puppy eyes*
Won't you think of the AtC?
Of course! We have a wide variety of Soul Tormenting Devices in Aisle 9.
Won't you think of the AtC?
Of course! We have a wide variety of Soul Tormenting Devices in Aisle 9.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Merchandising Fine Harrangues, Declamations, & Despairs since 2012 at September 05, 2017 03:05 PM (hLRSq)
266
Burglars should take their kids when they break in and steal stuff.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 03:05 PM (2wRtc)
267
257 Thank you, Jackal.
Oh and Sporkatus, the proper term for squirrels is Threnace. Both a Threat and a Menace.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 03:02 PM (mf5HN)
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You see if there were more rednecks in suburban areas your threnace would be solved. Deep fried tree-rat is a delicacy for us...
Oh and Sporkatus, the proper term for squirrels is Threnace. Both a Threat and a Menace.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 03:02 PM (mf5HN)
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You see if there were more rednecks in suburban areas your threnace would be solved. Deep fried tree-rat is a delicacy for us...
Posted by: Jackal at September 05, 2017 03:05 PM (EByLO)
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Hey, AtC, Home Depot has a number of different and very large animatronic arachnids available for your Halloween decorating needs.
Skeleton squirrels, too! Saw them yesterday and thought of you.
Skeleton squirrels, too! Saw them yesterday and thought of you.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 05, 2017 03:05 PM (ctuyM)
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Hi morons, OT but some teenage jackasses lit fireworks in the Columbia River Gorge and started a 10,000 acre fire that has utterly destroyed one of the most beautiful places on earth. I live about 30 miles from there and the sky is full of smoke and ashes are accumulating like snow. If you've never been to the Gorge, look up pictures. Multnomah Falls, Horsetail Falls, Bridal Veil, all ruined. Crown Point is in danger now too. It's like setting dynamite to Mt. Rushmore. I'm so pissed.
Posted by: Johnny at September 05, 2017 03:06 PM (kUotE)
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I actually just watched your commercial as I read. In my brain.
Scary.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 03:02 PM (2wRtc)
Right?
Gah.
I have to go to the 'rents in about an hour to participate in a conference call with them, their lawyer and my dad's twin brother about what to do about my dad and don't wanna.
Stupid adult stuff being stupid.
Scary.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 03:02 PM (2wRtc)
Right?
Gah.
I have to go to the 'rents in about an hour to participate in a conference call with them, their lawyer and my dad's twin brother about what to do about my dad and don't wanna.
Stupid adult stuff being stupid.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 03:06 PM (mf5HN)
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It was scorched earth around here by the early Trump supporters against Trump skeptics. Glad he won, but we were right to be dubious about the guy with shit like this. Oh well.
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You revise history like a lib. Ugh... is this gonna be one of "those" threads where the told-ya-so's slither out of their hideyholes?
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You revise history like a lib. Ugh... is this gonna be one of "those" threads where the told-ya-so's slither out of their hideyholes?
Posted by: Mega at September 05, 2017 03:06 PM (EoX/F)
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192----And what of the non-Hispanics from other countries who have patiently waited their turn?
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 02:40 PM (2wRtc)
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Why do you say "non-Hispanics" instead of "legal immigrants" or just "people?'
There are legal immigrants from Spanish-speaking countries --- and plenty of illegals from countries that don't speak Spanish.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 02:40 PM (2wRtc)
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Why do you say "non-Hispanics" instead of "legal immigrants" or just "people?'
There are legal immigrants from Spanish-speaking countries --- and plenty of illegals from countries that don't speak Spanish.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 05, 2017 03:06 PM (0jtPF)
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Anecdotal but I handle Workers Compensation claims in California. 90% of my claimants have Hispanic sir names. I am also not allowed to inquire about their legal status when flags are raised and I am required to pay for an interpreter if requested.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 05, 2017 03:06 PM (9m1df)
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138
Willowed from downstairs thread.
My point on this is that people keep making it sound like all the
DACA signups are gang banger MS13 threats when they are not. They are
still illegals, who were never deported and were actually welcomed and
educated in the US school systems, and those who have served in the US
military. Because our gov. and particularly Congress has simply refused
to make a stand on immigration for years.
I am for lawful immigration. But I am also not a big fan of screwing
over a bunch of people to whom the gov has not just turned a blind eye,
but has purposefully enticed and encouraged to be here via a totally
ignored immigration system.
Let Congress choke on how to fix this.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 05, 2017 02:16 PM (/Qs0S)
Umm -
No. I might, if Congress passes a law, begrudgingly admit that if you served the US in the armed forces you can, as a "dreamer, apply for citizenship and get preferential treatment (as long as you leave the US and apply from your home country, then you will not have to wait ten years etc. you can apply immediately) - but absent that - I see no reason to allow anyone who managed to come her illegally as a kid and get into a liberal educational institution a "path to citizenship" - no f-ing way. Did that illegal take a spot in the university away form a US citizen? You btet they did. My daughter just applied and got accepted to a bunch of universities - but not all. Did she miss one or two because some "dreamer" got accepted before her - probably. This not only disgusts me - it infuriates me to no end - to a fury that burns with the heat of a million sons. Oh and is it unfair that they would now have to leave, after getting an education to which they were not entitled to in the first place? Umm . . . no . . it is not. You got a freebie Mr./Miss illegal alien. . . I expect you to say "thank you" when you leave to go back to use that education in your own country (Mexico) and get a higher paying job then your fellow Mexicans - not complain . . . you ungrateful f*ck.
It is like that story the other day of the "nurse" who was being deported after 15 years after "doing nothing wrong" except being an illegal. Well, then you read into it and you find out she lied about her status to get her nursing education and job and then got promoted to better position in front of US citizens who were also qualified ( who understandably reported her). The article was written as "oh how horrible for her" and I am reading it saying . . .what? She gets a free education and job experience, takes good skilled positions away from US citizens (who are literally begging for the same position), is now a nurse and now has to use use it to go back to Mexico and . . . well, get a job as a nurse. That's the down side? This is what is so horrible? F*ck these people . No path to citizenship ever except : leave and apply like everyone else. Period. THAT is the already existing "path to citizenship" That is "fairness". You were here illegally and got caught - then you got a freebie and should be grateful Now GTFO.
Oh and , yes, if you ever registered to vote - instant deportation. If you voted - jail in a Federal PTMIA prison -THEN deportation.
Willowed from downstairs thread.
My point on this is that people keep making it sound like all the
DACA signups are gang banger MS13 threats when they are not. They are
still illegals, who were never deported and were actually welcomed and
educated in the US school systems, and those who have served in the US
military. Because our gov. and particularly Congress has simply refused
to make a stand on immigration for years.
I am for lawful immigration. But I am also not a big fan of screwing
over a bunch of people to whom the gov has not just turned a blind eye,
but has purposefully enticed and encouraged to be here via a totally
ignored immigration system.
Let Congress choke on how to fix this.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 05, 2017 02:16 PM (/Qs0S)
Umm -
No. I might, if Congress passes a law, begrudgingly admit that if you served the US in the armed forces you can, as a "dreamer, apply for citizenship and get preferential treatment (as long as you leave the US and apply from your home country, then you will not have to wait ten years etc. you can apply immediately) - but absent that - I see no reason to allow anyone who managed to come her illegally as a kid and get into a liberal educational institution a "path to citizenship" - no f-ing way. Did that illegal take a spot in the university away form a US citizen? You btet they did. My daughter just applied and got accepted to a bunch of universities - but not all. Did she miss one or two because some "dreamer" got accepted before her - probably. This not only disgusts me - it infuriates me to no end - to a fury that burns with the heat of a million sons. Oh and is it unfair that they would now have to leave, after getting an education to which they were not entitled to in the first place? Umm . . . no . . it is not. You got a freebie Mr./Miss illegal alien. . . I expect you to say "thank you" when you leave to go back to use that education in your own country (Mexico) and get a higher paying job then your fellow Mexicans - not complain . . . you ungrateful f*ck.
It is like that story the other day of the "nurse" who was being deported after 15 years after "doing nothing wrong" except being an illegal. Well, then you read into it and you find out she lied about her status to get her nursing education and job and then got promoted to better position in front of US citizens who were also qualified ( who understandably reported her). The article was written as "oh how horrible for her" and I am reading it saying . . .what? She gets a free education and job experience, takes good skilled positions away from US citizens (who are literally begging for the same position), is now a nurse and now has to use use it to go back to Mexico and . . . well, get a job as a nurse. That's the down side? This is what is so horrible? F*ck these people . No path to citizenship ever except : leave and apply like everyone else. Period. THAT is the already existing "path to citizenship" That is "fairness". You were here illegally and got caught - then you got a freebie and should be grateful Now GTFO.
Oh and , yes, if you ever registered to vote - instant deportation. If you voted - jail in a Federal PTMIA prison -THEN deportation.
Posted by: Publius Redux at September 05, 2017 03:06 PM (Fb9aZ)
275
You guys need to read this:
https://www.gofundme.com/9wvxt9-replacement-window
First date goes legendarily badly for some poor Britbong. A lady's poop didn't flush, and she responded a bit irrationally to that. She tries to deal with the consequences and hilarity ensues.
https://www.gofundme.com/9wvxt9-replacement-window
First date goes legendarily badly for some poor Britbong. A lady's poop didn't flush, and she responded a bit irrationally to that. She tries to deal with the consequences and hilarity ensues.
Posted by: bonhomme at September 05, 2017 03:06 PM (jhqr1)
276
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____________________
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____________________
Needs grrrrry hands...
TICKETS!!!!!!
GIT 'EM HERE!!!
GOING FAST!!!
TICKEEETTTSS!!!
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Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 05, 2017 03:07 PM (j/Mlu)
277
Burglars should take their kids when they break in and steal stuff.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 03:05 PM
One did about a month ago in our neighborhood.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 03:05 PM
One did about a month ago in our neighborhood.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 05, 2017 03:08 PM (ctuyM)
278
Heh - suns - not sons. hah. Freudian slip in that last post.
Posted by: Publius Redux at September 05, 2017 03:08 PM (Fb9aZ)
279
Hi morons, OT but some teenage jackasses lit fireworks in the Columbia River Gorge and started a 10,000 acre fire that has utterly destroyed one of the most beautiful places on earth. I live about 30 miles from there and the sky is full of smoke and ashes are accumulating like snow. If you've never been to the Gorge, look up pictures. Multnomah Falls, Horsetail Falls, Bridal Veil, all ruined. Crown Point is in danger now too. It's like setting dynamite to Mt. Rushmore. I'm so pissed.
Posted by: Johnny at September 05, 2017 03:06 PM (kUotE)
Oh no. I knew it was bad but didn't realize it was that bad.
If anyone dies, those kids are going to be up for felony murder, as they should be.
Posted by: Johnny at September 05, 2017 03:06 PM (kUotE)
Oh no. I knew it was bad but didn't realize it was that bad.
If anyone dies, those kids are going to be up for felony murder, as they should be.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 03:08 PM (mf5HN)
280
What irongrampa said.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 05, 2017 03:08 PM (BC5E+)
281
I have to go to the 'rents in about an hour to participate in a conference call with them, their lawyer and my dad's twin brother about what to do about my dad and don't wanna.
Stupid adult stuff being stupid.
Posted by: alexthechick
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That sounds hideous.
As for me, when I have to do parent-adult-legal-decision-y stuff, I always remind myself " Mort, 'member that time you and your friends snuck out the car and bought beer with the fake id and ..."
It makes it much easier, somehow.
Stupid adult stuff being stupid.
Posted by: alexthechick
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That sounds hideous.
As for me, when I have to do parent-adult-legal-decision-y stuff, I always remind myself " Mort, 'member that time you and your friends snuck out the car and bought beer with the fake id and ..."
It makes it much easier, somehow.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 03:08 PM (2wRtc)
282
Top 10 leftist groups wreaking havoc across U.S., sabotaging Trump
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ydzbaazv
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ydzbaazv
Posted by: Under Fire at September 05, 2017 03:09 PM (mcI77)
283
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is a cranky GF hag, thank you very much. at September 05, 2017 02:54 PM (kXoT0)
Consider sending it to the WH website.
Consider sending it to the WH website.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 05, 2017 03:10 PM (iVOAv)
284
No deaths so far but you can only begin to imagine how many critters lives have been lost.
Posted by: Johnny at September 05, 2017 03:11 PM (kUotE)
285
Why do you say "non-Hispanics" instead of "legal immigrants" or just "people?'
There are legal immigrants from Spanish-speaking countries --- and plenty of illegals from countries that don't speak Spanish.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille
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Of course you are correct. At the moment it seemed to draw a clearer parallel. Of course there are legal "Hispanic" ( as far as I understand the term) immigrants. My buddy from Peru waited 10 years.
There are legal immigrants from Spanish-speaking countries --- and plenty of illegals from countries that don't speak Spanish.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille
====
Of course you are correct. At the moment it seemed to draw a clearer parallel. Of course there are legal "Hispanic" ( as far as I understand the term) immigrants. My buddy from Peru waited 10 years.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 03:11 PM (2wRtc)
286
*mournful music plays* *maybe Sarah McLachlan or something*
Every day at the HQ there are those who have lost their spaces.
Tragic souls, they wander through, posting comments whose dearth of
adequate spacing, forays into alternate punctuation and lack of
grammatical propriety brings a tear to the eye of even the harshest
soul.
For only $9.95 per month, payable to Happy Fun, LLC, you, too, can
support those in distress. Your modest donation will keep alexthechick
in lemon bars and throat lozenges.
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Won't you think of the AtC?
*In The Arms of An Angels fades out*
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 02:58 PM (mf5HN)
Even when you're mocking me you're still one of the best things about this site. And it's not my fault ace's comment system sucks. I guess it was a mistake to delurk and vent my frustration with the tediousness of "But but but...NeverTrump!".
Every day at the HQ there are those who have lost their spaces.
Tragic souls, they wander through, posting comments whose dearth of
adequate spacing, forays into alternate punctuation and lack of
grammatical propriety brings a tear to the eye of even the harshest
soul.
For only $9.95 per month, payable to Happy Fun, LLC, you, too, can
support those in distress. Your modest donation will keep alexthechick
in lemon bars and throat lozenges.
*big sad puppy eyes*
Won't you think of the AtC?
*In The Arms of An Angels fades out*
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 02:58 PM (mf5HN)
Even when you're mocking me you're still one of the best things about this site. And it's not my fault ace's comment system sucks. I guess it was a mistake to delurk and vent my frustration with the tediousness of "But but but...NeverTrump!".
Posted by: gwelf at September 05, 2017 03:11 PM (Wioda)
287
>>>where the told-ya-so's slither out of their hideyholes?
Everyone enjoys a good toldjaso! I'm looking forward to one myself!
Everyone enjoys a good toldjaso! I'm looking forward to one myself!
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 05, 2017 03:12 PM (1v97/)
288
It's all just too fucked up. I'm sick of this dreamer shit, which is just another thing the left and the press is using to beat the "meanies" drum.
Let's get it on with the norks to focus everyone on reality. Maybe they'll try to hit LA with a bomb, but miss downtown and hit Beverly Hills instead.
Let's get it on with the norks to focus everyone on reality. Maybe they'll try to hit LA with a bomb, but miss downtown and hit Beverly Hills instead.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at September 05, 2017 03:12 PM (U6f54)
289
Critter Lives Matter! :'(
Posted by: Johnny at September 05, 2017 03:13 PM (kUotE)
290
well this is what I think, American citizens should get One free crime Pass.
If they pass criminal conduct , why don't we get a free ticket?
In fact if I cannot pay taxes because other people have my job.. well
tough and let them pay mine also.
If they pass criminal conduct , why don't we get a free ticket?
In fact if I cannot pay taxes because other people have my job.. well
tough and let them pay mine also.
Posted by: willow at September 05, 2017 03:14 PM (FKrah)
291
275
You guys need to read this:
https://www.gofundme.com/9wvxt9-replacement-window
First date goes legendarily badly for some poor Britbong. A lady's
poop didn't flush, and she responded a bit irrationally to that. She
tries to deal with the consequences and hilarity ensues.
Posted by: bonhomme at September 05, 2017 03:06 PM (jhqr1)
See there? There is a lesson here for this here immigration debacle about half measures and kicking the can down the road. Ultimately, someone is going to have to clean up your shit, and it might just be you. Infamously.
You guys need to read this:
https://www.gofundme.com/9wvxt9-replacement-window
First date goes legendarily badly for some poor Britbong. A lady's
poop didn't flush, and she responded a bit irrationally to that. She
tries to deal with the consequences and hilarity ensues.
Posted by: bonhomme at September 05, 2017 03:06 PM (jhqr1)
See there? There is a lesson here for this here immigration debacle about half measures and kicking the can down the road. Ultimately, someone is going to have to clean up your shit, and it might just be you. Infamously.
Posted by: Porn Squirrel at September 05, 2017 03:15 PM (tbOMB)
292
Boodie Noodie
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 05, 2017 03:15 PM (2wRtc)
293
that was a really great brown nose job.
Posted by: willow at September 05, 2017 03:15 PM (FKrah)
294
289 Critter Lives Matter! :'(
Posted by: Johnny at September 05, 2017 03:13 PM (kUotE)
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Yep. They taste good deep fried in a little crisco, too!
Posted by: Johnny at September 05, 2017 03:13 PM (kUotE)
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Yep. They taste good deep fried in a little crisco, too!
Posted by: Jackal at September 05, 2017 03:17 PM (EByLO)
295
You guys need to read this:
https://www.gofundme.com/9wvxt9-replacement-window
First date goes legendarily badly for some poor Britbong. A lady's poop didn't flush, and she responded a bit irrationally to that. She tries to deal with the consequences and hilarity ensues.
Posted by: bonhomme at September 05, 2017 03:06 PM (jhqr1)
"Once they had composed themselves after surveying the scene in front of them. . . ."
Okay, that person sounds like a good person and I love the fact that if anything was raised in excess (it was) it's going to charities.
https://www.gofundme.com/9wvxt9-replacement-window
First date goes legendarily badly for some poor Britbong. A lady's poop didn't flush, and she responded a bit irrationally to that. She tries to deal with the consequences and hilarity ensues.
Posted by: bonhomme at September 05, 2017 03:06 PM (jhqr1)
"Once they had composed themselves after surveying the scene in front of them. . . ."
Okay, that person sounds like a good person and I love the fact that if anything was raised in excess (it was) it's going to charities.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 05, 2017 03:17 PM (mf5HN)
296
294 hope you like them well done
Posted by: Johnny at September 05, 2017 03:18 PM (kUotE)
297
Virgin Islands governor, RINO who ran as an Independent, doesn't understand the Constitution:
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/ 2017/09/john-boch/us-virgin -islands-seizing-residents -guns-ammo-ahead-hurricane/Posted by: Country Singer at September 05, 2017 03:00 PM (uiwCw)
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When they start seizing guns and ammo...
The Governor is declaring an emergency and activating measures within the law code of the Virgin Islands.
The Governor has authorized seizure for use as needed by the National Guard.
Under V.I. law --Title 23, Section 1522, part 1: ("Governor may by written order...")
"Direct
the Adjutant General or other appropriate authority to seize arms,
ammunition, explosives, incendiary material, and any other property that
may be required by the military forces."
---
"may be required" being of some importance
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/ 2017/09/john-boch/us-virgin -islands-seizing-residents -guns-ammo-ahead-hurricane/Posted by: Country Singer at September 05, 2017 03:00 PM (uiwCw)
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When they start seizing guns and ammo...
The Governor is declaring an emergency and activating measures within the law code of the Virgin Islands.
The Governor has authorized seizure for use as needed by the National Guard.
Under V.I. law --Title 23, Section 1522, part 1: ("Governor may by written order...")
"Direct
the Adjutant General or other appropriate authority to seize arms,
ammunition, explosives, incendiary material, and any other property that
may be required by the military forces."
---
"may be required" being of some importance
Posted by: RioBravo at September 05, 2017 03:19 PM (SsblQ)
298
Trump has given congressional Republicans a rope and
an opportunity to hang themselves. It is up to congress to take
legislative action on this issue. This is how our country is supposed to
work.
Posted by: phone of kari - certified sidebar at September 05, 2017 01:56 PM (obUiv)
If Sessions is right, Trump has announced a cave on his campaign promise... and truly WTF. If the DACA order was unconstitutional, it is immediately null and void. You don't get to do unconstitutional things but just for 6 more months.
an opportunity to hang themselves. It is up to congress to take
legislative action on this issue. This is how our country is supposed to
work.
Posted by: phone of kari - certified sidebar at September 05, 2017 01:56 PM (obUiv)
If Sessions is right, Trump has announced a cave on his campaign promise... and truly WTF. If the DACA order was unconstitutional, it is immediately null and void. You don't get to do unconstitutional things but just for 6 more months.
Posted by: redbanzai at September 05, 2017 03:20 PM (rAIG/)
299
Oh and Sporkatus, the proper term for squirrels is Threnace. Both a Threat and a Menace.
What about chipmunks?
What about chipmunks?
Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 05, 2017 03:26 PM (SGFoV)
300
Picking a side would mean setting off the next Jewish Revolt, something Pilate was there to keep from happening.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Merchandising Fine Harrangues, Declamations, & Despairs
OT just a dark thought. The first revolt in 70AD failed. Then the bar kochba revolt failed in the 2nd century. Then the Roman Empire falls. Is this what we've got to look forward to? Our electoral rebellion fails. Then the US falls. Then who knows what.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Merchandising Fine Harrangues, Declamations, & Despairs
OT just a dark thought. The first revolt in 70AD failed. Then the bar kochba revolt failed in the 2nd century. Then the Roman Empire falls. Is this what we've got to look forward to? Our electoral rebellion fails. Then the US falls. Then who knows what.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 05, 2017 03:26 PM (/qEW2)
301
Burglars should take their kids when they break in and steal stuff.
They can squeeze through small openings.
They can squeeze through small openings.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 05, 2017 03:30 PM (QQ+il)
302
129 It boggles me that the environmentalist don't rebel against the No-Borders Democrats.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 05, 2017 02:26 PM (QQ+il)
There is ONE non-profit group, "Negative Population Growth" that does that. But the rest are just leftist shills. Like "Climate Change" regulations that affect the USA but not China, the rest of the eco-fiends are just Watermelons, former Red Commies who went "Green".
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 05, 2017 02:26 PM (QQ+il)
There is ONE non-profit group, "Negative Population Growth" that does that. But the rest are just leftist shills. Like "Climate Change" regulations that affect the USA but not China, the rest of the eco-fiends are just Watermelons, former Red Commies who went "Green".
Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 05, 2017 03:45 PM (ujg0T)
303
Fox Business just showed a Trump tweet - Congress get ready to do your job - DACA
Fox Business just showed a Trump tweet - Congress get ready to do your job - DACA
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 05, 2017 04:19 PM (493sH)
304
Perfect. There are 23 Democrats running for re-election this cycle, most in purple states. I wonder how many are going to fall on the swords to shove DACA.
Posted by: Ron Stanford at September 05, 2017 04:27 PM (/R4ru)
305
I see Obama has weighed in... He's using the accepted "word" cruel... Used by Biden and the MSM...All in lock step...
Posted by: It's me donna at September 05, 2017 04:34 PM (O2RFr)
306
They've been forever saying "The system is broken! We need Comprehensive Immigration Reform!(TM)!"
It's not broken. it was abandoned, but, okay;
Fund the Wall, fix Visa Overstays, Mandatory E-Verify, End H-1B, etc.--and you can have a legal DACA.
And if they pass a DACA stand-alone, that will take a 2/3rds veto override in both houses.
It's not broken. it was abandoned, but, okay;
Fund the Wall, fix Visa Overstays, Mandatory E-Verify, End H-1B, etc.--and you can have a legal DACA.
And if they pass a DACA stand-alone, that will take a 2/3rds veto override in both houses.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 05, 2017 04:36 PM (Ndje9)
307
There's another possible reason for why he's going with the six month window, but it assumes he's truly playing 14-level interdimensional chess. Say he knows what he's doing. Now try this:
We know that six month window hits right at the start of the 2018 primary season. By forcing this issue, it forces all GOPe in Congress to take a position, most of which will be in favor of illegals because let's be honest, they're a-holes. Every single one of them in both the House and Senate are on record for/against, and Trump can then step out during the primary season and ask for reinforcements from "the people."
If enough people are able to primary the GOPe and turn them out and then get elected in November, he would have a huge number of reinforcements for the next two years while he campaigns for re-election. It also terrifies the GOPe even more. So which emotion do they follow though, is the question. Fear or hate? They hate Trump but fear him and us too.
We live in interesting times.
We know that six month window hits right at the start of the 2018 primary season. By forcing this issue, it forces all GOPe in Congress to take a position, most of which will be in favor of illegals because let's be honest, they're a-holes. Every single one of them in both the House and Senate are on record for/against, and Trump can then step out during the primary season and ask for reinforcements from "the people."
If enough people are able to primary the GOPe and turn them out and then get elected in November, he would have a huge number of reinforcements for the next two years while he campaigns for re-election. It also terrifies the GOPe even more. So which emotion do they follow though, is the question. Fear or hate? They hate Trump but fear him and us too.
We live in interesting times.
Posted by: sans_sheriff at September 05, 2017 04:43 PM (wgPCV)
308
If Sessions is right, Trump has announced a cave on his campaign promise... and truly WTF. If the DACA order was unconstitutional, it is immediately null and void. You don't get to do unconstitutional things but just for 6 more months.
Posted by: redbanzai at September 05, 2017 03:20 PM (rAIG/)
What cave? Seriously, I don't understand why people don't go read the actual EO order, or go look at the DACA website which also clearly outlines that NO MORE SIGNUPs are being taken for DACA as of today.
The DOJ and Immigration has said they will not seek deportation requests for current DACA holders for six months. Current deportation cases DACA or non-DACA are moving forward.
You all do realize that if someone is caught here illegally, they have an entire system of legal procedure to go through to be deported? It doesn't happen in a day. An immigration court has to order the person deported and the time frame for deportation after they and their lawyers have presented their side of the case in court.
Imagine how long it would take for several hundred thousand DACA signees to make their way through the immigration courts...
I know many of you expected DACA to be declared null and void and for ICE to immediately begin searching addresses on the data base for DACA to find and arrest everyone on it, including pulling the ones out of their Army units, etc throwing them in holding cells, but that doesn't even happen to run of the mill Jose's caught working in a garage in Texas. They get a date to be in immigration court and get a lawyer to represent them.
Those are our laws and sometimes they work to prevent someone who follows the law, but the law screws up , from being wrongly deported.
Posted by: redbanzai at September 05, 2017 03:20 PM (rAIG/)
What cave? Seriously, I don't understand why people don't go read the actual EO order, or go look at the DACA website which also clearly outlines that NO MORE SIGNUPs are being taken for DACA as of today.
The DOJ and Immigration has said they will not seek deportation requests for current DACA holders for six months. Current deportation cases DACA or non-DACA are moving forward.
You all do realize that if someone is caught here illegally, they have an entire system of legal procedure to go through to be deported? It doesn't happen in a day. An immigration court has to order the person deported and the time frame for deportation after they and their lawyers have presented their side of the case in court.
Imagine how long it would take for several hundred thousand DACA signees to make their way through the immigration courts...
I know many of you expected DACA to be declared null and void and for ICE to immediately begin searching addresses on the data base for DACA to find and arrest everyone on it, including pulling the ones out of their Army units, etc throwing them in holding cells, but that doesn't even happen to run of the mill Jose's caught working in a garage in Texas. They get a date to be in immigration court and get a lawyer to represent them.
Those are our laws and sometimes they work to prevent someone who follows the law, but the law screws up , from being wrongly deported.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 05, 2017 04:58 PM (/Qs0S)
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You all do realize that if someone is caught here illegally, they have an entire system of legal procedure to go through to be deported? It doesn't happen in a day.
It takes even longer when you commit to ignore the law for six more months.
It takes even longer when you commit to ignore the law for six more months.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 05, 2017 05:23 PM (QQ+il)
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I keep seeing a six month delay to allow Congress to sort it out...yet there is no mention of that delay in Sessions speech. So technically, new applications for DACA end today. Am I misunderstanding what he said?
Posted by: vinnymotto at September 05, 2017 06:20 PM (+0t2Z)
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Why are so many ready to assume Trump is an idiot? He knows what promises he campaigned on any why he got elected. Trump's DACA action challenges his republican enemies to engineer amnesty legislation that repudiates the declared preferences of his base voters, right up until the date the primary challenges begin. Good luck with that, suckers.
Posted by: Yankee Doodler at September 05, 2017 11:04 PM (wDfaV)
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