Oregon Will Soon Become First State to Mandate That All Taxpayers Pay for All Abortions, No Matter How Late Term, No Matter What the Motive

#ButRussia, the NeverTrumpers, full of principle and devotion to "conservative policy," whimpered.

Last week, lawmakers passed a bill that would require insurers to pay 100% of all abortion-on-demand costs no matter how late-term they may be, and regardless of motive. It would also require insurers to pay $10 million into a fund for public funding of abortions in what is clearly a gift to Planned Parenthood...
Governor Kate Brown, who previously worked as a lobbyist for the abortion industry, cheered on these government mandates for abortion at all times for any reason...

Posted by: Ace at 03:18 PM

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1 Jackals.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 12, 2017 03:07 PM (2JcMg)

2 Leftism is a cancer

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2017 03:09 PM (Ot7+c)

3 Post-Birth Abortions soon to be made legal.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 12, 2017 03:10 PM (WDCYi)

4 d

Aw man - I missed the Shia Labeouf got raped by a bear thread - perhaps a top ten will help?

Posted by: Publius Redux at July 12, 2017 03:10 PM (Fb9aZ)

5 Why do Leftists hate children?

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2017 03:10 PM (Ot7+c)

6 #HailMoloch

Posted by: votermom pimping great books at July 12, 2017 03:10 PM (hMwEB)

7 The blood thirsty ghouls are stalking the streets.

Posted by: dananjcon at July 12, 2017 03:11 PM (WLK0w)

8 Too bad all these progressive bitches were not aborted.

Posted by: grnberet at July 12, 2017 03:11 PM (9qgwW)

9 It's one thing to support it, it's another thing to cheer it on. Kate Brown should see a psychiatrist.

By the way, if an abortion is not to save the mother's life or is in a case of rape or incest, isn't just birth control?

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 12, 2017 03:11 PM (4e+hS)

10 If they can't kill the civilization, maybe they can just kill the coming generations. But it's important to kill, kill, kill!

Posted by: Jeffersonian at July 12, 2017 03:12 PM (+ttLq)

11 4 d

Aw man - I missed the Shia Labeouf got raped by a bear thread - perhaps a top ten will help?

Posted by: Publius Redux at July 12, 2017 03:10 PM (Fb9aZ)

1st and a 3rd today. I could trade them for a solid 2nd Pairing D-Man and a promising AHL forward prospect.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 12, 2017 03:12 PM (WDCYi)

12 How far are we from having to justify NOT having an abortion?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 12, 2017 03:12 PM (dnWSK)

13 Dead babies...how progressive.

Posted by: dananjcon at July 12, 2017 03:12 PM (WLK0w)

14 Like taking candy from a dead baby.

Posted by: Memories at July 12, 2017 03:13 PM (mwcEF)

15 Top 5

You know - I am very anti abortion (Catholic) but someone on here posited the other day that they decided to be "pro" abortion so that all fucktarded lefties will abort their next generations thus leaving us right-wingers in charge. I gotta tell ya, the devil on my left shoulder is starting to make a whole lotta sense giving me that advice.

That being said - how long until the socialist communist dem criminal terrorist organizations (I know - repetitive!) mandate that you MUST HAVE abortions

Posted by: Publius Redux at July 12, 2017 03:13 PM (Fb9aZ)

16 Remember "Your children are covered under your health plan until Age 26"?

I think we've figured out the age limit for Post-Birth Abortions.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 12, 2017 03:14 PM (WDCYi)

17 Kill babies! Kill babies! Kill babies! Kill babies! Kill babies! Kill babies!

Sole purpose in their lives....

Posted by: Tami at July 12, 2017 03:14 PM (Enq6K)

18 democrats are literally a death cult, they worship killing babies.

We need to seriously revisit Roe vs. Wade.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 12, 2017 03:14 PM (0pcwX)

19 You think this will result in a bunch of out of state people showing up for their "free" abortion?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 12, 2017 03:15 PM (xfb67)

20 It's time the state started paying for my right to bear arms!

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 12, 2017 03:16 PM (xfb67)

21 Oregon is Ore-gone.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at July 12, 2017 03:16 PM (eytER)

22 WaPo says it's totally cool to date an abortionist. (link to Newsbusters)

http://tinyurl.com/y8bo5ynn

Posted by: huerfano at July 12, 2017 03:16 PM (TO4Og)

23 1st and a 3rd today. I could trade them for a solid 2nd Pairing D-Man and a promising AHL forward prospect.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 12, 2017 03:12 PM (WDCYi)

***
I am a Rangers fan so my NHL shopping list is even longer than yours.
I am happy to trade the Hanson Brothers though

1st and a 3d is not bad though.

Posted by: Publius Redux at July 12, 2017 03:16 PM (Fb9aZ)

24 Has Oregon tried single payer yet?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2017 03:16 PM (IqV8l)

25 Look at that puckered shrew of a governor..... you just know she'd be happy to perform an abortion herself, that fucking evil twat.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 12, 2017 03:17 PM (jjaLl)

26 Oregon is insane. Almost as bad as Seattle. Maybe worse.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 12, 2017 03:17 PM (3OIiX)

27 I gotta start checking links before I click...damn HotAir.

Posted by: Tami at July 12, 2017 03:17 PM (Enq6K)

28 23 1st and a 3rd today. I could trade them for a solid 2nd Pairing D-Man and a promising AHL forward prospect.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 12, 2017 03:12 PM (WDCYi)

***
I am a Rangers fan so my NHL shopping list is even longer than yours.
I am happy to trade the Hanson Brothers though

1st and a 3d is not bad though.

Posted by: Publius Redux at July 12, 2017 03:16 PM (Fb9aZ)

My team actually needs a 3rd line Center in addition to a 2nd pairing D-Man, but the market is crap thanks to the Expansion draft, so I don't see them getting either of those before the trade deadline...

Posted by: Hikaru at July 12, 2017 03:18 PM (WDCYi)

29 See Tami? If you read the content, all sorts of unpleasant things might happen.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 12, 2017 03:18 PM (3OIiX)

30 The leftists aren't aborting their own babies, they are advocating the abortion of the uneducated poors who make their statist programs more expensive and difficult to expand.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 12, 2017 03:18 PM (dnWSK)

31 Has anyone on the Left snarked yet if you don't like it just move out?

I must say, the Left's sudden Come To Jesus on state's rights and nullification of Federal law and the danger presented by Russia is good to see.

Posted by: alexthechick - my will to power? so much bigger at July 12, 2017 03:18 PM (mf5HN)

32 Oregon must be on the right side of history, or something.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 12, 2017 03:18 PM (Mouru)

33 I suppose 100% government paid euthanasia comes next?

These people never stop. If killing pre-born babies is in the goverment's interest, then killing defective/sick newborns will likely follow, along with nana and pop-pop when they get too old and bothersome...

Posted by: Lizzy at July 12, 2017 03:19 PM (NOIQH)

34 This will undoubtedly include post-birth abortions, yes?

Posted by: ShainS at July 12, 2017 03:19 PM (AdIL1)

35 It's leftist virtue signalling. It's basically a way of saying "We're more leftist than everybody!" It's also monstrous, but you knew that.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 12, 2017 03:19 PM (RD7QR)

36 After I just finished a somewhat impassioned post in the previous thread about needing to work as hard as we can to love our enemies... this pops up.

Sigh... at least I reserved myself plenty of space to be angry with my enemies...

May the Lord open their eyes and renew their souls, and may the process involve some serious punishment.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at July 12, 2017 03:19 PM (6JL3d)

37 29
See Tami? If you read the content, all sorts of unpleasant things might happen.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 12, 2017 03:18 PM (3OIiX)

I use to know that....I have to reknow it.

Posted by: Tami at July 12, 2017 03:19 PM (Enq6K)

38 24 Has Oregon tried single payer yet?

If their abortion program works, they'll be down to a single payee.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 12, 2017 03:20 PM (dnWSK)

39 33 I suppose 100% government paid euthanasia comes next?

These people never stop. If killing pre-born babies is in the goverment's interest, then killing defective/sick newborns will likely follow, along with nana and pop-pop when they get too old and bothersome...

Posted by: Lizzy at July 12, 2017 03:19 PM (NOIQH)

And people who are registered with the wrong party in the DMV's Motor Voter database...

Posted by: Hikaru at July 12, 2017 03:20 PM (WDCYi)

40 I don't say this casually.

Hope they all rot in fucking hell.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 12, 2017 03:20 PM (ZTRlp)

41 Wow. Such evil. I can't even....smiting time can't come quickly enough.

Posted by: lizabth at July 12, 2017 03:20 PM (+APBP)

42 Sidenote: I've always wanted to return to Oregon, the place is beautiful beyond words. The badlands in the eastern side of the state, the hundreds of miles of forested highway, the snowcapped mountains, the quiet beauty out near Seaside...

Never going back there, though. Too damned crazy.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at July 12, 2017 03:20 PM (6JL3d)

43 Uggh, I wish ace would stop linking to Tepid Air. Didn't they remove all the links to AOSHQ? Fuck those stupid fucking fucks up the fucking ass.

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at July 12, 2017 03:20 PM (+dsLj)

44 What's the saying, you get more of what you reward?
This could be ugly...

Posted by: Lizzy at July 12, 2017 03:20 PM (NOIQH)

45 the only time the Lest is against death is when it's a criminal facing the death penalty.

think about that.

or don't, if you're worried about your blood pressure or migraines.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 12, 2017 03:21 PM (YlVDV)

46 It's not funny in the least

Posted by: BEN BUTTLISSCHEESEBURGER at July 12, 2017 03:21 PM (JlyCG)

47 I hear Ed Driscoll is going to start blogging at Hot Air...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 12, 2017 03:21 PM (3OIiX)

48 How can you cheer the killing of innocent babies? Why do they love death so much?

I fucking hate them.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 12, 2017 03:21 PM (jjaLl)

49 If abortion counts as basic access to healthcare then heroin should count as basic access to pharmaceuticals and be free also.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 12, 2017 03:21 PM (dnWSK)

50 And yeah, Oregon is stunning. They allow legal machine gun ownership. But Portland...Portland...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 12, 2017 03:21 PM (3OIiX)

51 They're killing their own, perhaps, but remember..they have the educational system well in hand. Indoctrinate, don't procreate, could be their motto.

Posted by: lizabth at July 12, 2017 03:22 PM (+APBP)

52 Saw a very sad story at Second City Cop.

19 yo woman has kid. She immediately chucks the child out the eight story window. Charged with four counts of murder. Kim Foxx, the elected Democrat State Attorney pleads it all down to Involuntary Manslaughter and probation.

http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com

Yes, Kim Foxx hates babies.

Posted by: rd at July 12, 2017 03:22 PM (4dz1m)

53 How can you cheer the killing of innocent babies? Why do they love death so much?

I fucking hate them.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 12, 2017 03:21 PM (jjaLl)

Because darkness rules this world, and they are blinded to it. They cannot see, except that the Lord opens their eyes.

All in His good time... but damn.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at July 12, 2017 03:22 PM (6JL3d)

54 10 If they can't kill the civilization, maybe they can just kill the coming generations. But it's important to kill, kill, kill!

Posted by: Jeffersonian at July 12, 2017 03:12 PM (+ttLq)

Interesting, also on comment above about 'next its post term abortions.'

Thats how they'll justify assassinating conservatives. Lets just call it "post term abortions"...with a gun.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'it all tastes like chicken' at July 12, 2017 03:22 PM (31vnC)

55 these people are beyond evil. dr. mengele is their idol.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 12, 2017 03:23 PM (KP5rU)

56 43.
Went there yesterday. Got the pop-up with "your first time here this month, you have an ad blocker, we're watching you". Felt threatened, had to return here, my safe space.
Hot Air sucks

Posted by: never enough caffeine at July 12, 2017 03:23 PM (N3JsI)

57 The problem with the safety net is you have to bounce people out when it becomes too heavy. The inevitable result of socialism every time.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 12, 2017 03:23 PM (dnWSK)

58 Will trannies be able to get them?

Posted by: josephistan at July 12, 2017 03:24 PM (7HtZB)

59 I can't fathom this, for reasons already touched on here as well as my own personal issues.

That life is not only being denied to someone who can't even defend him or herself, but is being denied so casually, is, well, unthinkable.

I don't know how to reach someone who is apathetic about this or, even worse, actively applauds it.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at July 12, 2017 03:24 PM (PFy0L)

60 >>If abortion counts as basic access to healthcare then heroin should count as basic access to pharmaceuticals and be free also.

Swap out heroin for medicinal pot and it's already being pushed.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 12, 2017 03:24 PM (NOIQH)

61 "Its my body, but its your money, sucker!"
-sluts

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 12, 2017 03:24 PM (39g3+)

62 This will undoubtedly include post-birth abortions, yes?
Posted by: ShainS at July 12, 2017 03:19 PM (AdIL1)

----

Well... there's talk of confiscating legally owned firearms and outlawing CCW permits for self defense.

So.

Yes.

Posted by: fixerupper at July 12, 2017 03:24 PM (8XRCm)

63 Just remember, Gore lost FL because Blacks ,18 years earlier, had aborted enough babies that did not grow up to vote.

Just saying. It's still murder.

Posted by: Ralph at July 12, 2017 03:24 PM (aSKOz)

64 On the upside, perhaps this will start costing Ore-gone members of CONgress once their population starts to drop sufficiently.

On the other hand, this is pretty bloody evil. Baal is, no doubt, pleased.

Posted by: DocJ at July 12, 2017 03:24 PM (NYS7S)

65 I gotta start checking links before I click...damn HotAir.
---
there are so many scripts there that, if i open a link to them, all i get is a blank page.

no great loss, in my estimation.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 12, 2017 03:24 PM (YlVDV)

66 57 The problem with the safety net is you have to bounce people out when it becomes too heavy. The inevitable result of socialism every time.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 12, 2017 03:23 PM (dnWSK)

BOING!

Posted by: Death Panel at July 12, 2017 03:24 PM (31vnC)

67 "Regardless of motive" and when they find out people are aborting babies because they may be homosexual...

Posted by: steevy at July 12, 2017 03:24 PM (rmVvL)

68 I actually know people moving to California from Oregon because OR has gotten so stupid.

Posted by: JEM at July 12, 2017 03:25 PM (TppKb)

69 I do so enjoy being made to help kill an innocent for the greater good of the 'children.'

so at any gestation? so didn't they write recently in some journal that perhaps we should be allowed to get rid of a defective*. or undesirable up to two years of age?

the death cult. along with their other fellow travelers.

Posted by: willow at July 12, 2017 03:25 PM (v12G8)

70 How can you cheer the killing of innocent babies? Why do they love death so much?

******************************

Because they don't see them as babies, they see them as gooey chemical slop that has no soul, so therefore it's ok to terminate them.

People can easily rationalize murder and genocide by simply not perceiving the people they either kill or support murdering as not being human.

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at July 12, 2017 03:25 PM (+dsLj)

71 If abortion counts as basic access to healthcare then heroin should count as basic access to pharmaceuticals and be free also.

Bill working its way through Oregon legislature to legalize possession of small amounts of all kinds of drugs, including heroin and meth.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 12, 2017 03:25 PM (39g3+)

72 Well... there's talk of confiscating legally owned firearms and outlawing CCW permits for self defense.

---
where?

(besides #Failifornia, of course)

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 12, 2017 03:25 PM (YlVDV)

73 This is a sickness.

Posted by: Fritz at July 12, 2017 03:25 PM (2Mnv1)

74 And besides the ghoulish abortions, THIS is why health insurance is so damned expensive.

(That and Sandra Fluke's stupid subsidized birth control--imagine what oil changes would be like and would cost if 3rd party car insurance paid for them, and what car insurance would cost as a result).

If health insurance just covered true SHTF situations, we probably COULD have affordable health insurance for all.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 12, 2017 03:25 PM (ujg0T)

75 60 >>If abortion counts as basic access to healthcare then heroin should count as basic access to pharmaceuticals and be free also.

Swap out heroin for medicinal pot and it's already being pushed.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 12, 2017 03:24 PM (NOIQH)

About now an injection of smack to an eyeball sounds invigorating.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 12, 2017 03:25 PM (ZTRlp)

76 If abortion counts as basic access to healthcare then heroin should count as basic access to pharmaceuticals and be free also.

Swap out heroin for medicinal pot and it's already being pushed.

If methadone is given to druggies because they have a "disease", why isn't chemo given to cancer patients?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 12, 2017 03:26 PM (YxyYj)

77 Why do they love death so much?Why wont the Brit hospital allow that baby to have a chance to live?Even if it is a miniscule chance.

Posted by: steevy at July 12, 2017 03:26 PM (rmVvL)

78 And by their works you shall know them.

Evil.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 12, 2017 03:27 PM (6n332)

79 so at any gestation? so didn't they write recently in some journal that perhaps we should be allowed to get rid of a defective*. or undesirable up to two years of age?

Sometimes you can't tell whether they're defective until they take their SATs

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 12, 2017 03:27 PM (Mouru)

80 How can you cheer the killing of innocent babies? Why do they love death so much?

Control.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 12, 2017 03:27 PM (oVJmc)

81 Gah,have you seen Hillary with her "Nasty Woman" tee shirt?

Posted by: steevy at July 12, 2017 03:27 PM (rmVvL)

82 I suppose 100% government paid euthanasia comes next?

They'll call it something innocuous, like the "Liverpool Pathway". Then they'll say straight to your face that "It's not euthanasia, where'd you get a f*cktarded idea like that, Fox news?" and send you a Vox article that patiently explains that only f*cktards who watch Fox would call the "Liverpool pathway" euthanasia.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 12, 2017 03:27 PM (jhqr1)

83 People can easily rationalize murder and genocide by simply not perceiving the people they either kill or support murdering as not being human.

You do know who else did that?
(For once, not just the set up to a joke)

Posted by: rickb223 at July 12, 2017 03:27 PM (YxyYj)

84 Gov. Kate Brown. A lower form of Gov. Jerry Brown.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 12, 2017 03:27 PM (UF0Iv)

85 Went there yesterday. Got the pop-up with "your first time here this month, you have an ad blocker, we're watching you". Felt threatened, had to return here, my safe space.
Hot Air sucks

***************

Because it can never be said enough: Fuck those stupid nevertrumping fucking fucks up the fucking ass.

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at July 12, 2017 03:27 PM (+dsLj)

86 I can't fathom this, for reasons already touched on here as well as my own personal issues.

That life is not only being denied to someone who can't even defend
him or herself, but is being denied so casually, is, well, unthinkable.

I don't know how to reach someone who is apathetic about this or, even worse, actively applauds it.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at July 12, 2017 03:24 PM (PFy0L)

You cannot.

Every single person knows damned well what this is. They make excuses for it, they turn their eyes from it, they force themselves to believe lies because fighting it would be hard.

You cannot reach a heart that wilfully hardens itself. God alone can do that.

To such people, the rest of us are... well, we're just reactionaries. Cultural anachronisms. Not with the times. Unscientific. Morally atrophied.

Madness...

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at July 12, 2017 03:27 PM (6JL3d)

87 Because darkness rules this world, and they are blinded to it. They cannot see, except that the Lord opens their eyes.

All in His good time... but damn.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at July 12, 2017 03:22 PM (6JL3d)

Yeah, well, I'd love to help them see the light.... I believe a Louisville Slugger to the head would make them see some very bright stars......

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 12, 2017 03:28 PM (jjaLl)

88 (besides #Failifornia, of course)

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 12, 2017 03:25 PM (YlVDV)

----

Oregon.

Had a thread on it a while back.

Posted by: fixerupper at July 12, 2017 03:28 PM (8XRCm)

89 Leftists see abortion as a positive. They are keeping these kids who would be born poor or "unwanted" from having to suffer being poor. I mean, they would just end up being unproductive criminals, anyway. It's doing them a service. One less uneducated person who might wander into a gourmet sandwich shop and be confused by capicola and prosciutto.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 12, 2017 03:28 PM (dnWSK)

90
Bill working its way through Oregon legislature to legalize
possession of small amounts of all kinds of drugs, including heroin and
meth.
--

I believe that bill passed.

So really, you have to give free abortions to the women that the addicts are raping, and the addicted women who get pregnant.

/thinking like a liberal, not my personal view

Posted by: shibumi at July 12, 2017 03:28 PM (aT+Bx)

91 If methadone is given to druggies because they have a "disease",

Why don't they buy booze for alcoholics?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 12, 2017 03:28 PM (oVJmc)

92 Some lib here was bitching in our local paper's vox populi that "red staters" don't care about "God's creatures" and the environment.

I'm still looking for my reply: "We red staters most certainly do love God's creatures and the environment. We also love unborn babies."

Wonder why my Vox hasn't been printed?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 12, 2017 03:28 PM (PY9jH)

93 70 How can you cheer the killing of innocent babies? Why do they love death so much?

******************************

Because they don't see them as babies, they see them as gooey chemical slop that has no soul, so therefore it's ok to terminate them.

People can easily rationalize murder and genocide by simply not perceiving the people they either kill or support murdering as not being human.

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at July 12, 2017 03:25 PM (+dsLj)

More than that, they see them as competition for the spoils distributed to the Free Shit Army.

The less people there are, the bigger the piece of the pie they think they'll get.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 12, 2017 03:28 PM (9TK8E)

94 81 Gah,have you seen Hillary with her "Nasty Woman" tee shirt?
Posted by: steevy at July 12, 2017 03:27 PM (rmVvL)

Wow, she actually told the truth!

Posted by: josephistan at July 12, 2017 03:28 PM (7HtZB)

95 rd, I thought I saw that the woman who threw her baby out of the window was a Muslim, which may have been an extenuating circumstance IFYKWIM.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 12, 2017 03:28 PM (FQKBL)

96 so at any gestation? so didn't they write recently in some journal that perhaps we should be allowed to get rid of a defective*. or undesirable up to two years of age?

If they're still on their parent's insurance...

Posted by: rickb223 at July 12, 2017 03:29 PM (YxyYj)

97 Dude, even I think that's messed up, Oregon.

Posted by: Moloch at July 12, 2017 03:29 PM (AURKQ)

98 I have Tricare RS, which isn't some cut-rate shit, and it doesn't even cover 100% of birth costs. It's close, and I'm not complaining, but there's simply no reason to pick abortion as the one thing to subsidize fully. Other than sucking up to prog orthodoxy, of course.

Posted by: CPT11A at July 12, 2017 03:29 PM (hxUdS)

99 that governor lady even looks like a cvnt. way to go oregon! the handbasket awaits.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 12, 2017 03:29 PM (KP5rU)

100 83 People can easily rationalize murder and genocide by simply not perceiving the people they either kill or support murdering as not being human.

**********************

Whoops, "as being human" I meant, that's what i get for having 9 cups of coffee today instead of the usual 10.

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at July 12, 2017 03:29 PM (+dsLj)

101 Isn't this the same state that was using aborted babies to power their electricity?

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 12, 2017 03:29 PM (dKiJG)

102 well I say if they are to die, we 'give their bodies to people that Need their parts like Live people, And they cannot be sold.

Posted by: willow at July 12, 2017 03:29 PM (v12G8)

103 Because it can never be said enough: Fuck those stupid nevertrumping fucking fucks up the fucking ass.

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at July 12, 2017 03:27 PM (+dsLj)

Its fuckery I tell you. Pure and simple.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 12, 2017 03:30 PM (31vnC)

104 Sadly, the babies being killed could probably find adoptive homes. I have two cousins that were adopted, and I know two families that want to find a child.

Posted by: Ralph at July 12, 2017 03:30 PM (aSKOz)

105 If they're still on their parent's insurance...
Posted by: rickb223 at July 12, 2017 03:29 PM (YxyYj)

yow, zing

Posted by: willow at July 12, 2017 03:30 PM (v12G8)

106 45 the only time the Lest is against death is when it's a criminal facing the death penalty.

think about that.

or don't, if you're worried about your blood pressure or migraines.
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 12, 2017 03:21 PM (YlVDV)

The Left loves Abortion and hates Capital Punishment.
----- said another way -----
The Left believes in Killing Innocents and Sparing the Guilty.

Posted by: rd at July 12, 2017 03:30 PM (4dz1m)

107 Gah,have you seen Hillary with her "Nasty Woman" tee shirt?

Posted by: steevy at July 12, 2017 03:27 PM (rmVvL)

Wow, she actually told the truth!

Posted by: josephistan at July 12, 2017 03:28 PM (7HtZB)

Yeah, Samantha Bee is selling the t-shirts to raise money for Planned Parenthood.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 12, 2017 03:30 PM (PY9jH)

108 "Killing one's baby" conjures up such yucky images. "Woman's Healthcare" is so much more agreeable.

The truth is horrible. They know they need to hide their evil in euphemisms.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 12, 2017 03:30 PM (Mouru)

109 95 rd, I thought I saw that the woman who threw her baby out of the window was a Muslim, which may have been an extenuating circumstance IFYKWIM.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius

Yep. Got probation.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 12, 2017 03:30 PM (YxyYj)

110 I like being on a Catholic dating service* - you can actually filter out women who are in favor of abortion.

*In theory, in practice I've not met anyone.

Posted by: josephistan at July 12, 2017 03:30 PM (7HtZB)

111 So ace put this up about 20 mins. ago and has over 100 comments.

It's been on HotAir for over and hour....I counted 14 comments.

Posted by: Tami at July 12, 2017 03:31 PM (Enq6K)

112 I've always wanted to try this thought experiment on a feminist abortion advocate:

Q: How do you feel about abortion, and why?
A: Totally wonderful, my body my choice, clump of cells

Q: How about parents and FGM on their kids.
A: Some deflection, racism, but most admit wrong, illegal

Q: If adult joins group, wants FGM on self?
A: Her body, her choice

Q: If 9 month pregnant woman wants doctor to perform FGM on fetus in utero?
A: ...

Posted by: Grimaldi at July 12, 2017 03:31 PM (8op5h)

113 The entire Left Coast is going batshit bazoozoos.
The Seattle Silly Council voted for a 2.5% income tax on "the rich". The pedarast mayor will approve it. They even did that after they saw what happened when the minimum wage went up to $13/hr.

Progressives are brain dead.

Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson and I will destroy you at July 12, 2017 03:31 PM (mSR8Q)

114 >>>If methadone is given to druggies because they have a "disease",
Why don't they buy booze for alcoholics?

I have an addiction!!! Pick me!! ME ME ME ME ME ME!!!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 12, 2017 03:31 PM (ENB12)

115 34 This will undoubtedly include post-birth abortions, yes?
Posted by: ShainS at July 12, 2017 03:19 PM (AdIL1)

Oh, been there done that.

Posted by: UK's national healthcare system, kill one sick baby get another killed baby at half price! at July 12, 2017 03:31 PM (yMqqR)

116 Every morning I hold my foster babies and thank God their drug whore mothers didn't wander past PP.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 12, 2017 03:31 PM (dnWSK)

117 Lets say you're a person who rejects all meaning, truth, and goodness in life, considering it all subjective and up to the individual. Let us further say that this life leaves you with no hope, no purpose, and no meaning. Because of this, you seek moments that help you forget this emptiness and yawning chasm in your soul, moments of orgasm, intoxication, excitement.

What's a human life when it gets in the way of that? Especially since you can just redefine humanity into nothing so there's not any sense of guilt or wrongdoing. There is no good, there is no evil, there is no truth. There is only what you can grasp and enjoy for the moment and what you have the power to force upon others. Having a baby interferes with that utterly selfish and soulless life.

Of course you cheer getting rid of babies.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 12, 2017 03:31 PM (39g3+)

118 People can easily rationalize murder and genocide by
simply not perceiving the people they either kill or support murdering
as not being human.

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at July 12, 2017 03:25 PM (+dsLj)

Which makes them either sociopaths, or psychopaths, can't remember which....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 12, 2017 03:31 PM (jjaLl)

119 It's been on HotAir for over and hour....I counted 14 comments.
Posted by: Tami at July 12, 2017 03:31 PM (Enq6K)

----

I notice that too.

Posted by: fixerupper at July 12, 2017 03:31 PM (8XRCm)

120 well , I think we should all demand public schools be shut down as they are servicing parasites , not children.

Posted by: willow at July 12, 2017 03:32 PM (v12G8)

121 106 45 the only time the Lest is against death is when it's a criminal facing the death penalty.

think about that.

or don't, if you're worried about your blood pressure or migraines.
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 12, 2017 03:21 PM (YlVDV)

The Left loves Abortion and hates Capital Punishment.
----- said another way -----
The Left believes in Killing Innocents and Sparing the Guilty.
Posted by: rd at July 12, 2017 03:30 PM (4dz1m)

Most vegans are probably pro-abortion, too

Posted by: josephistan at July 12, 2017 03:32 PM (7HtZB)

122 >>>It's been on HotAir for over and hour....I counted 14 comments.

Any about butt stuff or gorillas or gorilla butt stuff?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 12, 2017 03:32 PM (ENB12)

123 Well don't forget the good aspects of this, most of the aborted are black. Although we have a lot of work still to do convincing hispanic women to take use of our services, way too many of them still have this primitive religious hangup about it.

Posted by: Margaret Sanger at July 12, 2017 03:32 PM (OmOvC)

124 Oregon Will Soon Become First State to Mandate That All Taxpayers Pay for All Abortions, No Matter How Late Term, No Matter What the Motive

It's for the children!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 12, 2017 03:32 PM (SRKgf)

125 From that abortionist dating woes article:

"Every man I have ever dated --- no matter how liberal or
open-minded he professes to be --- has flinched, looked away, or gone
silent when I first tell him what I do," she criticized. "I watch myself transform from potential girlfriend into political symbol."

Political symbol or mass killer?

Most abortion supporters prefer to use euphemisms and slogans because they know that to graphically name and describe it is repellent. Even most who think it should be legal (with or without limits) understand it is ending a life. So yeah, when someone finds out you're the one who makes a living ending lives...they're gonna flinch.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 12, 2017 03:33 PM (NOIQH)

126 I often wonder what exactly the interplay between God's calling, His saving will, and human self-determination is. Where the balance lies.

How much of a person's decision to choose God's way is of the human's own thinking? Romans 9 often makes people wonder about this topic.

I bring it up now and then, but I passionately recommend Thomas Talbott's book, The Inescapable Love of God, to any who are interested in such a topic. It is a book primarily about Christian universalism, not to be confused with liberal universalism which thinks that there's more than one road to God - there is not, 'tis Christ alone - but the book delves deeply and offers poignant thoughts on the nature of human freedom and God's will.

Fascinating stuff for those who are interested in such things o.0

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at July 12, 2017 03:33 PM (6JL3d)

127 Most vegans are probably pro-abortion, too
Posted by: josephistan at July 12, 2017 03:32 PM (7HtZB)

They are. I remember an incident from my University days at Berkeley, when I passed a plate of scrambled eggs to a "vegan" leftist girl to needle her. "If you are pro-abortion you should have no problem with eggs...." I explained.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 12, 2017 03:34 PM (ujg0T)

128 So ace put this up about 20 mins. ago and has over 100 comments.

It's been on HotAir for over and hour....I counted 14 comments.
Posted by: Tami

So, HotAir is the AA farm team.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 12, 2017 03:34 PM (YxyYj)

129 What's the problem?

I mean COME ON, GUYS.

You CAN'T make a PIZZA without a heaping helping of STEM CELLS.

It's good for the SPIRIT.

Posted by: John Podesta at July 12, 2017 03:34 PM (9TK8E)

130 You: How can you cheer the killing of innocent babies? Why do they love death so much?

Them: It's a clump of cells.

You: This law allows abortion up to the moment of birth. That's not a clump of cells, that's a baby.

Them: How dare you force a woman to carry an unwanted fetus to term? Are women just brood mares to you?

You: It's their choice to have unprotected sex. Once the egg implants, science dictates that's a new and unique human life and must therefore be protected.

Them: But not all protection is 100% reliable.

You: Then use two forms of protection, the chance of procreation in that case is vanishingly small.

Them: Fuck you.

Me: Fuck you and your baby heart eating mother.

Fin.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 12, 2017 03:34 PM (jhqr1)

131 It's been on HotAir for over and hour....I counted 14 comments.

******************

They went full CharlesJohnson. Never go full CharlesJohnson.

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at July 12, 2017 03:34 PM (+dsLj)

132 119
It's been on HotAir for over and hour....I counted 14 comments.

Hot Air has turned into a predictable left wing establishment outlet - they don't want you commenting, they don't care what you have to say. Your only job as a reader is to absorb the wisdom presented to you by your betters.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2017 03:35 PM (OmOvC)

133 Governor Kate Brown, who previously worked as a lobbyist for the abortion industry, cheered on these government mandates for abortion at all times for any reason...

But remember, only pro-lifers are 'extremists'.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 12, 2017 03:35 PM (esSbe)

134
"Every man I have ever dated --- no matter how liberal or
open-minded he professes to be --- has flinched, looked away, or gone
silent when I first tell him what I do," she criticized. "I watch myself transform from potential girlfriend into political symbol."

Just a clump of cells, maybe?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 12, 2017 03:35 PM (oVJmc)

135 104 Sadly, the babies being killed could probably find adoptive homes. I have two cousins that were adopted, and I know two families that want to find a child.
Posted by: Ralph at July 12, 2017 03:30 PM (aSKOz)

There aren't enough babies. My neice was adopted, it took years to get a baby.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 12, 2017 03:35 PM (Ri/rl)

136 The reality here is hard to miss. Having lost repeatedly at the national level, a legislature that thinks Cali(!) is too soft has taken it upon itself to create Proggie Shangri-La and enact every sinlge fucktarded and Stalinist idea they can as soon as possible so that the rest of the nation will have a beacon of hope, and they can be a rebuke to all the hinterland bumblefucks.

How much will survive court challenges and how much backlash it will provoke from even Portlanders wondering if it's too far, has yet to be seen. But that's the game plan - Resistance HQ, Capital in Exile shit.

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 12, 2017 03:35 PM (eXSOZ)

137 The left is all about death, especially of the most vulnerable: the unborn and just as equally of the ill and infirm.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 12, 2017 03:35 PM (HiDrR)

138 124 Oregon Will Soon Become First State to Mandate That All Taxpayers Pay for All Abortions, No Matter How Late Term, No Matter What the Motive

It's for the children!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 12, 2017 03:32 PM (SRKgf)

perfect.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 12, 2017 03:35 PM (31vnC)

139 So ace put this up about 20 mins. ago and has over 100 comments.

It's been on HotAir for over and hour....I counted 14 comments.
Posted by: Tami at July 12, 2017 03:31 PM (Enq6K)

Well Hot Air hates its readers....so there aren't many. Or not many that aren't sent there from here or Instapundit.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 12, 2017 03:35 PM (3OIiX)

140 From that abortionist dating woes article:

"Every man I have ever dated --- no matter how liberal or
open-minded he professes to be --- has flinched, looked away, or gone silent when I first tell him what I do," she criticized. "I watch myself transform from potential girlfriend into political symbol."

Preach it, sistah!

Posted by: Josef Mengele at July 12, 2017 03:36 PM (SRKgf)

141 I don't panic. The Lord had a way of dealing with the statue of Baal when the ark was placed in the temple. It would be fun to see something like that again.

Posted by: Axeman at July 12, 2017 03:36 PM (2mC6G)

142 Has anyone on the Left snarked yet if you don't like it just move out?

I must say, the Left's sudden Come To Jesus on state's rights and nullification of Federal law and the danger presented by Russia is good to see.

Posted by: alexthechick - my will to power? so much bigger at July 12, 2017 03:18 PM (mf5HN)

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And as per usual, will only last until they get back into power and want to tell some conservative states how to behave.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 12, 2017 03:36 PM (6n332)

143 Kate Brown, yeah, I'm a Nazi

Posted by: Strobe at July 12, 2017 03:36 PM (Cg0lU)

144 Kate Brown is part of the machine in Democrat Oregon politics. They have used the secretary of state office to set up a rotating constant series of governors. She was SoS when the sitting governor got so embroiled in a scandal that not even being a Democrat could protect them, so he resigned and she took over.

The last five governors have been secretaries of state or former governors who got back into office. All Democrats.

The state hasn't had a republican governor or even a large minority of Republicans in the legislature since the state went all-mail-in voting. Total coincidence, I'm sure.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 12, 2017 03:36 PM (39g3+)

145 Oops. Wrong tab.

Posted by: Axeman at July 12, 2017 03:36 PM (2mC6G)

146 >>> Yeah, Samantha Bee is selling the t-shirts to raise money for Planned Parenthood. Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 12, 2017 03:30 PM (PY9jH)

Lin Manuel Miranda did a Hamilton fundraiser, all proceeds going to PP. Lena Dunham auctioned off her clothes, all money for PP.

PP might be an evil group to give money to, but I have no prob with this. This is how our system is supposed to work, people voluntarily donating to any cause under the sun. NOT the government forcing their money to go to any group the govt deems fit.

Defund PP and let the celebs and the virtue signalling leftists put their money where their mouth is, if they care sooooooo much.

Posted by: LizLem at July 12, 2017 03:37 PM (hvf9s)

147 Wasn't Oregon the state where they were burning aborted fetuses for power generation?

Why, yes it was:

http://tinyurl.com/ycsp23be

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 12, 2017 03:37 PM (rZ+mb)

148 what is the doomsday clock at for all medical insurers to leave oregon.

once the out of staters start flying over the border. it's over johnny, it's over.

Posted by: Fox at July 12, 2017 03:37 PM (DVC2D)

149 >>It's for the children!

I don't know why more people don't argue the obvious point that abortion supporters are interested only in the "rights" of adults but not the rights of unborn children. The vast majority of abortions are done for convenience or lifestyle reasons and not health reasons.

Shame is a powerful weapon. It should be used more in this case.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2017 03:37 PM (/tuJf)

150 Any about butt stuff or gorillas or gorilla butt stuff?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 12, 2017 03:32 PM (ENB12)

Hey now.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 12, 2017 03:37 PM (esSbe)

151 Wait till they find the gay gene.

Posted by: Max Power at July 12, 2017 03:37 PM (q177U)

152 Sadly, the babies being killed could probably find adoptive homes. I have two cousins that were adopted, and I know two families that want to find a child.
Posted by: Ralph at July 12, 2017 03:30 PM (aSKOz)

Adopting costs more than doing fertility treatments and you are not even guaranteed the father Tribe etc will try and get the baby back.

That's why most people go overseas, we looked into it and it was half the cost.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 12, 2017 03:37 PM (dKiJG)

153 Isn't this bint and agent of Satan the first openly bisexual governor in the country?

By the looks of her, I'd say it's buy-sexual, rather than bisexual.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 12, 2017 03:37 PM (vg8iE)

154 So, HotAir is the AA farm team.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 12, 2017 03:34 PM (YxyYj)

Nah, they are owned my a Christian broadcasting company. They just don't have any traffic, ha ha!
Seriously, they and Red State are working hard who is going to become the next Little Green Footballs site.
HA is all #Nevertrump, as is Red State. They are losing hits because of that.

Posted by: Ralph at July 12, 2017 03:37 PM (aSKOz)

155 137 The left is all about death, especially of the most vulnerable: the unborn and just as equally of the ill and infirm.
Posted by: IrishEi at July 12, 2017 03:35 PM (HiDrR)

I am reminded of a statement on the lectern by the late great Justice Scalia: "If you want physician assisted suicide, do what the people of Oregon did and persuade your legislators to vote it in. Don't expect me to wave a gavel and make it happen...."
(or he said something to that effect)

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 12, 2017 03:38 PM (ujg0T)

156 Luke 9:51 When the days were approaching for His ascension, He was determined to go to Jerusalem; 52 and He sent messengers on ahead of Him, and they went and entered a village of the Samaritans to make arrangements for Him. 53 But they did not receive Him, because He was traveling toward Jerusalem. 54 When His disciples James and John saw this, they said, "Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them?" 55 But He turned and rebuked them, ... and they went on to another village.

God is a lot more patient than we are, repent while you can because the judgement is coming.

Posted by: goodluckduck at July 12, 2017 03:38 PM (yqvys)

157 147 Wasn't Oregon the state where they were burning aborted fetuses for power generation?

Why, yes it was:

http://tinyurl.com/ycsp23be

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 12, 2017 03:37 PM (rZ+mb)

What a waste of good food.

Posted by: John Podesta at July 12, 2017 03:38 PM (9TK8E)

158 141
I don't panic. The Lord had a way of dealing with the statue of Baal
when the ark was placed in the temple. It would be fun to see something
like that again.

Posted by: Axeman at July 12, 2017 03:36 PM (2mC6G)

Well, we're 60 million + aborted babies. He might want to step it up a tad.

Posted by: Tami at July 12, 2017 03:38 PM (Enq6K)

159 116 Every morning I hold my foster babies and thank God their drug whore mothers didn't wander past PP.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 12, 2017 03:31 PM (dnWSK)

Good on you, and congratulations on your blessings.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 12, 2017 03:38 PM (tbOMB)

160 Well Democrats really are a death cult. They believe in killing infants, geriatrics and Republicans.

Oh yeah, and we all should pay for it.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 12, 2017 03:38 PM (TE03o)

161 Has anyone on the Left snarked yet if you don't like it just move out?

*Types something about boolits & ending
*deletes

Posted by: rickb223 at July 12, 2017 03:38 PM (YxyYj)

162 31 "I must say, the Left's sudden Come To Jesus on state's rights and nullification of Federal law and the danger presented by Russia is good to see."

The fact that these positions are 100% turnarounds is the merest of coincidences. As soon as we are blessed with another Democrat Preznit, they will be gone with the wind.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 12, 2017 03:38 PM (4hIeD)

163 Adopting costs more than doing fertility treatments
and you are not even guaranteed the father Tribe etc will try and get
the baby back.

That's why most people go overseas, we looked into it and it was half the cost.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 12, 2017 03:37 PM (dKiJG)

Some folks don't have any luck with IF treatments, I know this personally.

Posted by: Ralph at July 12, 2017 03:38 PM (aSKOz)

164 I bring it up now and then, but I passionately recommend Thomas Talbott's book, The Inescapable Love of God, to any who are interested in such a topic. It is a book primarily about Christian universalism

I know him, he lives in the same town as me. Went to our church, I was best friends with his son. For Talbott, when the Bible and his preferences and worldview conflict, the Bible loses.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 12, 2017 03:39 PM (39g3+)

165 106 45 the only time the Lest is against death is when it's a criminal facing the death penalty.

think about that.

or don't, if you're worried about your blood pressure or migraines.
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 12, 2017 03:21 PM (YlVDV)

The Left loves Abortion and hates Capital Punishment.
----- said another way -----
The Left believes in Killing Innocents and Sparing the Guilty.
Posted by: rd at July 12, 2017 03:30 PM (4dz1m)

I've never understood that.

I've actually had liberals turn it around to me, and ask me why I don't support abortion but do support capital punishment.

Duh. There is the small matter of moral culpability distinguishing the two.

Posted by: Josef Mengele at July 12, 2017 03:39 PM (SRKgf)

166 You know what changed my mind about abortion?

Those silly billboards saying, "A Baby's Heart Begins Beating x Days After Conception."

They started me thinking. Seeing ultrasounds really pushed it to my current position.

Posted by: rd at July 12, 2017 03:39 PM (4dz1m)

167 147 Wasn't Oregon the state where they were burning aborted fetuses for power generation?

Why, yes it was:

http://tinyurl.com/ycsp23be
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 12, 2017 03:37 PM (rZ+mb)

It's only a matter of time before some hip, edgy gastropub starts serving fetuses.

Posted by: josephistan at July 12, 2017 03:39 PM (7HtZB)

168 Of course these people are cheering. Why wouldn't they?

Anything that helps push along the destruction & replacement of the American people is jake-aloo with these people.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 12, 2017 03:40 PM (TwwWO)

169 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 12, 2017 03:37 PM (rZ+mb)

What is wrong with these people? How utterly evil.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 12, 2017 03:40 PM (Ri/rl)

170 Isn't this bint and agent of Satan the first openly bisexual governor in the country?

Nah, nothing like that

She's lesbian.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 12, 2017 03:41 PM (39g3+)

171 165 I've never understood that.

I've actually had liberals turn it around to me, and ask me why I don't support abortion but do support capital punishment.

Duh. There is the small matter of moral culpability distinguishing the two.

Posted by: Josef Mengele at July 12, 2017 03:39 PM (SRKgf)

Well, who WOULD support capital punishment?

Old criminals taste all tough and stringy. And their spirit is all befouled.

Posted by: John Podesta at July 12, 2017 03:41 PM (9TK8E)

172 The progressive left came that they might have death, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 12, 2017 03:41 PM (esSbe)

173 There can be no question that they're bloodthirsty monsters.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 12, 2017 03:41 PM (0mRoj)

174 167 We had commenters here defending the practice...

Posted by: steevy at July 12, 2017 03:41 PM (rmVvL)

175 Off, baby-eating sock.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 12, 2017 03:41 PM (9TK8E)

176 What is wrong with these people? How utterly evil.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 12, 2017 03:40 PM (Ri/rl)

They're self-hating nihilists who want to see every vestige of anything familiar or normal utterly destroyed.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 12, 2017 03:41 PM (rZ+mb)

177 Kate's gonna have some 'splainin' to do to her Maker.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 12, 2017 03:41 PM (PY9jH)

178 They started me thinking. Seeing ultrasounds really pushed it to my current position.

Posted by: rd at July 12, 2017 03:39 PM (4dz1m)

THIS, is the reason abortion clinics fight to keep the Life vans away from their death chambers. Letting a girl see her baby move usually stops her from killing it

Posted by: Ralph at July 12, 2017 03:42 PM (aSKOz)

179 Nah, nothing like that

She's lesbian.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 12, 2017 03:41 PM (39g3+)
======

I've always wondered why those women who are dried up hags, very post-menopausal, barren and/or dykes scream the loudest for abortion.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 12, 2017 03:42 PM (vg8iE)

180 The whole Abortion Doctor Barbie story sounds fake as hell.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 12, 2017 03:42 PM (oVJmc)

181 Is Oregon now the destination of those too whacked out to make it in northern California? I used to visualize it as a woodland wonderland. Now I visualize it as doped-up street grunge waste.

Oregon is going to need some good PR for its tourist bureau.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 12, 2017 03:42 PM (H8S+R)

182 147 Wasn't Oregon the state where they were burning aborted fetuses for power generation?

Why, yes it was:

http://tinyurl.com/ycsp23be
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 12, 2017 03:37 PM (rZ+mb)

Unfortunately I have a good memory.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 12, 2017 03:42 PM (dKiJG)

183 In my opinion, abortion is the single issue that has led us to the alternate universe paradigm we are currently living under. Not Trump, not the 2000 election fall-out. Abortion, because every four years has become a "crucial, most important election in our lifetime" for the Left to control SCOTUS picks to ensure that abortion stays legal. Go back to Kennedy and Bork.

It's abortion above any issue that has divided us.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 12, 2017 03:42 PM (7uYFy)

184 Here's some more happy news about the most feminist friendly religion evah:

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/07/12/muslim-

husband-chops-off-wifes-fingers-because-she-wont-

drop-out-of-college/

(remove extra spaces)

If only Christian men were this kind and respectful to their wives.

*sigh*

It's a standard we may never reach.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 12, 2017 03:42 PM (NyJwR)

185 163 Adopting costs more than doing fertility treatments and you are not even guaranteed the father Tribe etc will try and get
the baby back.

That's why most people go overseas, we looked into it and it was half the cost.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 12, 2017 03:37 PM (dKiJG)

Sadly this. CA requires foster to adopt first, and there is that chance that a few years later, no matter how much you bond with the infant turned tyke, "rehabilitated" crackhead mother will come claim "her" baby back.

It was also jaw dropping how the overwhelming number of people at the County/State seminar I attended were interested in Foster Parents Only, and they were nearly all underclass people wanting that Paid Babysitting Money State Stipend

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 12, 2017 03:42 PM (ujg0T)

186 sock off

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 12, 2017 03:42 PM (SRKgf)

187 You know how to avoid abortions?

Butt stuff.

Posted by: wooga at July 12, 2017 03:42 PM (3I7wr)

188 "161
Has anyone on the Left snarked yet if you don't like it just move out?"

The simple truth is that I really don't want to be part of the same nation as these people anymore. I don't just want to defeat them politically; I want things to change so that I will never have to do anything with them ever again.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2017 03:42 PM (OmOvC)

189 Oregon; haven't the Norks found the range yet?

Posted by: Strobe at July 12, 2017 03:42 PM (Cg0lU)

190 The really strange thing is a lot of European countries that are seen by the left as much more progressive and enlightened actually have abortion laws stricter than ours, in some cases way stricter.

Posted by: Max Power at July 12, 2017 03:43 PM (q177U)

191 This will undoubtedly include post-birth abortions, yes?

Posted by: ShainS at July 12, 2017 03:19 PM (AdIL1)
---
But only in the last year of your life. Honest.

Posted by: Axeman at July 12, 2017 03:43 PM (2mC6G)

192 Define 'late term'. I have to wonder if once this becomes commonplace if 'late term' will describe 'up to a week old', etc.

Posted by: Cardinal LL Cool J at July 12, 2017 03:43 PM (B11vO)

193 They're self-hating nihilists who want to see every vestige of anything familiar or normal utterly destroyed.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 12, 2017 03:41 PM (rZ+mb)

I don't get it....To what end?

Posted by: Tami at July 12, 2017 03:43 PM (Enq6K)

194 So there really are evil witches in Salem !

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 12, 2017 03:43 PM (n3xLS)

195 68 I actually know people moving to California from Oregon because OR has gotten so stupid.
Posted by: JEM at July 12, 2017 03:25 PM (TppKb)

So they've had it up to here with progressives and moved to California? I'd advise them not to unpack.

Posted by: Clay, unimpressed with your wokeness at July 12, 2017 03:43 PM (SMh/7)

196 Define 'late term'.

75 yrs old.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 12, 2017 03:43 PM (YxyYj)

197 It's only a matter of time before some hip, edgy gastropub starts serving fetuses.

Purportedly, there was some of that going on in China around 20 years ago. On the downlow.

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 12, 2017 03:44 PM (eXSOZ)

198 I make it a point to show all of the pregger girls their baby on ultrasound when they come into my ER. No matter what the complaint.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 12, 2017 03:44 PM (dnWSK)

199 47 I hear Ed Driscoll is going to start blogging at Hot Air...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Foxhole Ed had to RTB to get some ammo. He'll be back when the latest attack dies down.

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at July 12, 2017 03:44 PM (nFwvY)

200 192 Define 'late term'. I have to wonder if once this becomes commonplace if 'late term' will describe 'up to a week old', etc.

Posted by: Cardinal LL Cool J at July 12, 2017 03:43 PM (B11vO)

Up until 26 Years old, since that's how long they're on their parents' "insurance".

Posted by: Hikaru at July 12, 2017 03:44 PM (9TK8E)

201 I've never understood that.

I've actually had liberals turn it around to me, and ask me why I don't support abortion but do support capital punishment.

Duh. There is the small matter of moral culpability distinguishing the two.
Posted by: Josef Mengele at July 12, 2017 03:39 PM (SRKgf)

I'd be 100% ok with a compromise where where we get rid of both.

Somehow I don't think liberals would accept that, though.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 12, 2017 03:44 PM (KUaJL)

202 They are. I remember an incident from my University days at Berkeley, when I passed a plate of scrambled eggs to a "vegan" leftist girl to needle her. "If you are pro-abortion you should have no problem with eggs...." I explained.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 12, 2017 03:34 PM (ujg0T)

Excellent. Stealing it.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 12, 2017 03:44 PM (31vnC)

203 How long until they start paying 'mothers' a bounty for every dead child?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 12, 2017 03:44 PM (vChNs)

204 I don't get it....To what end?

Posted by: Tami at July 12, 2017 03:43 PM (Enq6K)

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They don't think that far ahead. For them, it's all "HULK! SMASH!!"

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 12, 2017 03:44 PM (vg8iE)

205 194.

Threadwinner

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 12, 2017 03:44 PM (TwwWO)

206 The really strange thing is a lot of European countries that are seen by the left as much more progressive and enlightened actually have abortion laws stricter than ours, in some cases way stricter.
Posted by: Max Power at July 12, 2017 03:43 PM (q177U)
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Yes, and quite a lot of them yawn over nuclear power plants, that the American left stages die-ins over.

You can't expect the left to be consistent...about anything really.

Posted by: Axeman at July 12, 2017 03:44 PM (2mC6G)

207 I've always wondered why those women who are dried
up hags, very post-menopausal, barren and/or dykes scream the loudest
for abortion.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 12, 2017 03:42 PM (vg8iE)

That sounds a lot like a self-answering question...

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 12, 2017 03:44 PM (jjaLl)

208 >>> They are. I remember an incident from my University days at Berkeley, when I passed a plate of scrambled eggs to a "vegan" leftist girl to needle her. "If you are pro-abortion you should have no problem with eggs...." I explained. Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 12, 2017 03:34 PM (ujg0T)

You, my dear, are devious. I applaud you. *tucks comment away for future use*

Posted by: LizLem at July 12, 2017 03:44 PM (hvf9s)

209 bicentennialguy, maybe those women want abortions for others because they don't want people to have what they missed out on. Or they're trying to justify the ones that they had.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 12, 2017 03:44 PM (FQKBL)

210 >>>but someone on here posited the other day that they decided to be "pro" abortion so that all fucktarded lefties will abort their next generations thus leaving us right-wingers in charge

Kinda like how a lot of the civil war monuments honor Democrats, LOL

Posted by: Max Power at July 12, 2017 03:45 PM (q177U)

211 ... someone on here posited the other day that they decided to be "pro" abortion so that all fucktarded lefties will abort their next generations thus leaving us right-wingers in charge. I gotta tell ya, the devil on my left shoulder is starting to make a whole lotta sense giving me that advice.

Posted by: Publius Redux at July 12, 2017 03:13 PM

It won't happen. What WILL happen is an increased callousness towards abortion in particular and killing in general. Look at how blas� Christians have become about pre-marital sex, cohabitation, unmarried parents, etc.; e.g. maybe it's not for them, but they can't possibly say or do anything that might be seen as judgmental.

My nephew was flabbergasted when I told him that he was welcome to spend the night at my place: his girlfriend could have the guest room, he my room, and me the sofa. Don't know what the gf thought and don't care.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 12, 2017 03:45 PM (G8B7r)

212 197 It's only a matter of time before some hip, edgy gastropub starts serving fetuses.

Purportedly, there was some of that going on in China around 20 years ago. On the downlow.

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 12, 2017 03:44 PM (eXSOZ)

You know that John and Tony Podesta can't wait.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 12, 2017 03:45 PM (9TK8E)

213 Test, test, test.

Posted by: weft cut -loop at July 12, 2017 03:45 PM (4eNK5)

214 With the Oregon government forcing ALL taxpayers to pay for abortions, I wonder if the Catholic Diocese out there will sue the state for forcing this upon its believers.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 12, 2017 03:45 PM (jxbfJ)

215 151 Wait till they find the gay gene.

______________________________________

You, hoo!

Posted by: Gene Krupa at July 12, 2017 03:45 PM (4AVeu)

216 THIS, is the reason abortion clinics fight to keep the Life vans away from their death chambers. Letting a girl see her baby move usually stops her from killing it
Posted by: Ralph at July 12, 2017 03:42 PM (aSKOz)

My brother is a nuclear medicine tech, he can also do ultrasounds. He did my ultrasound when I was maybe 10 weeks along. He said to me, can you believe people think that's not a baby and are allowed to have an abortion?

It's a baby.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 12, 2017 03:45 PM (Ri/rl)

217 I've always wondered why those women who are dried up hags, very post-menopausal, barren and/or dykes scream the loudest for abortion.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 12, 2017 03:42 PM (vg8iE)

It's a mystery, isn't it?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 12, 2017 03:45 PM (SRKgf)

218 I dunno. I'm not the most pious person in the world and I know Jesus is going to have a few harsh words for me, but these people are evil. They want to destroy and enslave people for their own purposes. That's the epitome of real evil- taking people away from Gods creation and purpose.

That's not judgmental, it's based on facts.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 12, 2017 03:45 PM (TE03o)

219 It's only a matter of time before some hip, edgy gastropub starts serving fetuses.
Posted by: josephistan at July 12, 2017 03:39 PM (7HtZB)

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I asked for white meat

Posted by: Oregon foodie ghoul at July 12, 2017 03:46 PM (vChNs)

220 I don't get it....To what end?
Because only then will "evil" cease to exist, and (in their mind) good as well. Nothing that others will ask them to aspire to, nothing they can be criticized for. Just the general meanness of life with everybody just as purposeless, aimless, and morally void as they are.

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 12, 2017 03:46 PM (eXSOZ)

221 198 I make it a point to show all of the pregger girls their baby on ultrasound when they come into my ER. No matter what the complaint.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 12, 2017 03:44 PM (dnWSK)

Oh my. And you are an angel, too.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 12, 2017 03:46 PM (tbOMB)

222 I hear Ed Driscoll is going to start blogging at Hot Air...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Foxhole Ed had to RTB to get some ammo. He'll be back when the latest attack dies down.
Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at July 12, 2017 03:44 PM (nFwvY)

I doubt Ed can reload a Starbucks card.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 12, 2017 03:46 PM (3OIiX)

223 There are actually quite a few wiccans in Salem, no joke. I have known some, they are pretty harmless and kindly sorts, if a bit... whacky.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 12, 2017 03:46 PM (39g3+)

224 Purportedly, there was some of that going on in China around 20 years ago. On the downlow.
Posted by: Sporkatus at July 12, 2017 03:44 PM (eXSOZ)

20 years ago, 1997, Red China was well into getting rid of Communism. But Chinese friends have told me that in Mao's time of Agricultural Lunacy 50 years ago, that WAS happening.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 12, 2017 03:47 PM (ujg0T)

225 They started me thinking. Seeing ultrasounds really pushed it to my current position.
Posted by: rd at July 12, 2017 03:39 PM
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Just imagine how many hearts could be turned if all the major media outlets would show those undercover PP videos where they talk about removing the brain, heart, etc. for profit. Many people who have been indoctrinated to believe in the "clump of cells" BS would be shocked to learn just how fully developed even the youngest of abortion's victims are.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 12, 2017 03:47 PM (HiDrR)

226 bicentennialguy, maybe those women want abortions for others because they don't want people to have what they missed out on. Or they're trying to justify the ones that they had.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius

Boom!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 12, 2017 03:47 PM (YxyYj)

227 "Bill working its way through Oregon legislature to legalize possession
of small amounts of all kinds of drugs, including heroin and meth."

Same bill rejiggers state sentencing guidelines to help prevent illegal aliens from being subjected to federal deportation proceedings.

It really is time to crank up the State of Jefferson movement again. Allow the saner counties of Oregon to have a velvet divorce from the lunacy emanating from Portland and Eugene.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 12, 2017 03:47 PM (ujwCG)

228 Chaotic evil, I got it. So, how far can the coastal regions of Oregon can push things until fire rains down from the sky?

Posted by: auscolpyr at July 12, 2017 03:47 PM (suO/a)

229 Posted by: Tami at July 12, 2017 03:43 PM (Enq6K

When your goal is complete central government control, but only 5% of the population agrees with you, you have to get into bed with a lot of strange parties in order to get the support you need. We are at the point where their intersectionality is biting them in the ass and they puss off one SJW group while trying to please another.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 12, 2017 03:48 PM (dnWSK)

230
If only Christian men were this kind and respectful to their wives.

*sigh*

It's a standard we may never reach.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 12, 2017 03:42 PM (NyJwR)

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but how will she make him sammiches?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 12, 2017 03:48 PM (vChNs)

231 I approve of this initiative.

Posted by: Moloch at July 12, 2017 03:48 PM (1Rgee)

232 Just the general meanness of life with everybody just as purposeless, aimless, and morally void as they are.

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 12, 2017 03:46 PM (eXSOZ)

And then?

Posted by: Tami at July 12, 2017 03:48 PM (Enq6K)

233 Purportedly, there was some of that going on in China around 20 years ago. On the downlow.
Posted by: Sporkatus at July 12, 2017 03:44 PM (eXSOZ)

It's not really funny, but you made me think of something. In the late 70's at my all-boy Catholic HS, there was an Italian priest who was always a little frazzled but vehemently pro-Life who almost stroked out when a couple wise asses in class told him that supermarkets were selling jars of aborted fetuses as "baby stew."

Posted by: JoeF. at July 12, 2017 03:48 PM (7uYFy)

234 228 Chaotic evil, I got it. So, how far can the coastal regions of Oregon can push things until fire rains down from the sky?

Posted by: auscolpyr at July 12, 2017 03:47 PM (suO/a)

Wouldn't it be Lawful evil, since they're using the machinations of the Law to enact their evil?

Posted by: Hikaru at July 12, 2017 03:49 PM (9TK8E)

235 Portland, Salem, and Eugene aka The I5 Commie Corridor.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 12, 2017 03:49 PM (mcI77)

236 Sarah Huckabee is swinging away on behalf of the Trump administration right now. She is all over the DNC/Clinton/Ukraine meetings and even brought up Bubba getting paid $500K for a speech to a Kremlin controlled bank and Hillary's uranium deal.

Good.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2017 03:49 PM (/tuJf)

237 116 Every morning I hold my foster babies and thank God their drug whore mothers didn't wander past PP.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 12, 2017 03:31 PM (dnWSK)

One possible reason she was that she couldn't come up with the money to abort her child. Oregon will solve that problem for her.

Posted by: rd at July 12, 2017 03:49 PM (4dz1m)

238 You want to coerce people to do something? Force them to witness a live birth and a mother holding that child in her arms for the first time.

I doubt most people with a soul would ever feel the same way about abortion after that.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 12, 2017 03:49 PM (TE03o)

239 Laugh riot. More people watch the cartoon channel than CNN!

pic.twitter.com/uwEKMoCqrR

Posted by: Ralph at July 12, 2017 03:49 PM (aSKOz)

240 198 I make it a point to show all of the pregger girls their baby on ultrasound when they come into my ER. No matter what the complaint.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 12, 2017 03:44 PM (dnWSK)

Ultrasounds changes minds.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 12, 2017 03:50 PM (Ri/rl)

241 So are they OK with late term abortions for Californians in Oregon?

Maybe even as late as the 280th trimester? That would get nearly all of them.

Posted by: Kristophr at July 12, 2017 03:50 PM (Vkf+s)

242
I know him, he lives in the same town as me. Went to our church, I
was best friends with his son. For Talbott, when the Bible and his
preferences and worldview conflict, the Bible loses.

Posted by: Christopher R. Taylor at July 12, 2017 03:39 PM (39g3+)

This may well be true - but the book is still quite good.

Speaking personally, I feel he worries about human freedom of will too much, but he's quote right in quoting George Macdonald in saying,

"Let no one persuade you that there is in Him a little darkness, because of something he has said which His creature interprets into darkness. .. . Neither let your cowardly conscience receive any word as light because another calls it light, while it looks to you dark. Say either the thing is not what it seems, or God never said or did it. But, of all evils, to misinterpret what God does, and then say the thing as interpreted must be right because God does it, is of the devil. Do not try to believe [therefore] anything that affects you as darkness. Even if you mistake and refuse something true thereby, you will do less wrong to Christ by such a refusal than you would by accepting as His what you can see only as darkness."

It is a good thing for us to be skeptical, indeed cynical, about even church leaders and their positions. None can deny the harm done by ostensibly righteous men mishandling and maligning Scripture.

I think it a fine book worthy of addition to a person's library. Whether the man holds other views (a couple I think I could identify, based on some things he said in his writings) that are wrong or unScriptural, well, haven't we all at some point or other?

I'd be grateful to hear any thoughts you might have on the man, actually. I quite enjoyed his book, but I have a couple of points of contention with his ideas (or seeming contention, the ideas in question being mentioned only in passing in the book I referenced.)

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at July 12, 2017 03:50 PM (6JL3d)

243 Just the general meanness of life with everybody just as purposeless, aimless, and morally void as they are.
Posted by: Sporkatus

If I was as morally void as the left, I'd make Genghis Khan look like a pussy.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 12, 2017 03:50 PM (YxyYj)

244 I pray for an end to abortion, One day humanity will look back and wonder why. Abortion is murder hands down. murder, murder, murder. God have mercy.

Posted by: USNtakim at July 12, 2017 03:50 PM (zZWkn)

245 In Milo's bok, Dangerous, he refers to pro-abortion hags as "ugly" but now I know he meant inside as well as out.

Posted by: auscolpyr at July 12, 2017 03:50 PM (suO/a)

246 Well, there's another wall we should build.

Posted by: Abby Normal at July 12, 2017 03:50 PM (cQO95)

247 @auscolpyr

The coast is mostly small towns. The evil in Oregon is in the 'left middle' along the I-5 corridor mostly. Downtown Portland is a sewer. A pretty sewer in places, but a sewer.

I need to get my Oregon carry permit renewed. Hmmm....they no longer require residency proof to get driver licenses do they....?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 12, 2017 03:50 PM (3OIiX)

248 but how will she make him sammiches?
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 12, 2017 03:48 PM (vChNs)

You have to ask? With her all powerful multitool.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 12, 2017 03:50 PM (tbOMB)

249 I don't get it....To what end?

Posted by: Tami at July 12, 2017 03:43 PM (Enq6K)
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Hate to get opaquely Christian, but Satan blinds them. It's to Satan's end.

I have pared all my conspiracy theories down to: Satan + nursery of bumbling human infants.

Less opaque: it's a rebellious urge that wants to get back at dad. A scatological urge to paint their walls in shit. The system failed them, now it deserves their retribution.

Posted by: Axeman at July 12, 2017 03:51 PM (2mC6G)

250
It's been on HotAir for over and hour....I counted 14 comments.

Was on Weaselzippers two days ago.

https://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=347879

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2017 03:51 PM (IqV8l)

251 Wouldn't it be Lawful evil, since they're using the machinations of the Law to enact their evil?

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I thought C-E referred to demons, but I guess L-E would fit also for them being the Devil.

Posted by: auscolpyr at July 12, 2017 03:52 PM (suO/a)

252 Ate lunch at Cracker Barrel with the kids. Our meals came with three side orders. So I told them I wanted four sides to make it a square meal.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 12, 2017 03:53 PM (vChNs)

253 244 I pray for an end to abortion, One day humanity will look back and wonder why. Abortion is murder hands down. murder, murder, murder. God have mercy.
Posted by: USNtakim at July 12, 2017 03:50 PM (zZWkn)

May God have mercy on our country for perpetuating this barbaric procedure couched in euphemisms.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 12, 2017 03:53 PM (Ri/rl)

254 Who actually reads HA anymore? I gave up on them once the comments changes and the writers went full crazy.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 12, 2017 03:53 PM (TE03o)

255 And then?
They won't be happy, but they think they'll be happier, because they won't feel the guilt of expectations failed. It's all about removing desire in that way, to reach Nirvana, which when combined with the need to reach an all-is-one shared degeneracy kind of makes it Evil Buddhism.

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 12, 2017 03:53 PM (eXSOZ)

256 vicious killers usually hide from the law

Posted by: torabora at July 12, 2017 03:53 PM (6dFYM)

257 247 @auscolpyr

The coast is mostly small towns. The evil in Oregon is in the 'left middle' along the I-5 corridor mostly. Downtown Portland is a sewer. A pretty sewer in places, but a sewer.

I need to get my Oregon carry permit renewed. Hmmm....they no longer require residency proof to get driver licenses do they....?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 12, 2017 03:50 PM (3OIiX)

Might be easier to get your Washington State permit. Oregon is May Issue, but does recognize permits from states that immediately border it.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 12, 2017 03:53 PM (jxbfJ)

258
I need to get my Oregon carry permit renewed. Hmmm....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 12, 2017 03:50 PM (3OIiX)

No. Find a good sheriff in eastern OR.
I believe they require a shooter safety course first.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 12, 2017 03:53 PM (mcI77)

259 I don't get it....To what end?

Posted by: Tami at July 12, 2017 03:43 PM (Enq6K)

They are weak personalities who couldn't handle the normal guilt mechanism used by individualistic societies. Their imaginations run amok and generate guilt out of nowhere - like children who see a horror movie and can't stop their imaginations from scaring the shit out of them for months afterwards. Leftists place blame for their overwhelming, illusory guilt on their fathers, primarily, and develop intense hatred them. They want to destroy their fathers and everything that reminds them of their fathers ... which includes pretty much everything they are familiar with. This makes them develop into twisted, self-hating, nihilistic ghouls who dream of seeing their fathers, their families, and their whole society burned to the ground.

This is what becomes of weak personalities in individualistic societies. But, you have to take the bad with the good and that is just the price we pay for the power and advantage of an individualistic society.

We used to keep these mental defectives in check because none of their idiotic and suicidal ideas were taken seriously ... but then good people decided that they had to be nice to these lunatics and act as if they weren't the societal cancer that they obviously are, so we started letting them express their insane views without smacking them down and saying what utter lunacy and bullshit they were spewing. People who used to be laughed off of the public stage have been allowed to stay there and even patronized by people who didn't want them to feel bad about themselves. But feeling bad is what the Western left is all about.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 12, 2017 03:53 PM (rZ+mb)

260 Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 12, 2017 03:37 PM (dKiJG)

Some folks don't have any luck with IF treatments, I know this personally.
Posted by: Ralph at July 12, 2017 03:38 PM (aSKOz)

Sorry I meant adoption overseas is cheaper and you are guaranteed the parents won't come after the baby. We have had a friend lose their adopted child because the Tribe sued to get her back.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 12, 2017 03:53 PM (dKiJG)

261 228 Chaotic evil, I got it. So, how far can the coastal regions of Oregon can push things until fire rains down from the sky?
Posted by: auscolpyr at July 12, 2017 03:47 PM (suO/a)

North Korea may have thermonuclear weapons and is working on an ICBM delivery system. The fire may rain down soon?

Posted by: rd at July 12, 2017 03:54 PM (4dz1m)

262 Who actually reads HA anymore? I gave up on them once the comments changes and the writers went full crazy.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 12, 2017 03:53 PM (TE03o)

I can't even see their comments anymore, and I'm too lazy to change my script filters to fix whatever the issue is.

I typically only end up there when linked by another site, and it's always a laugh to see their staff going bananas about the outrage du jour.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at July 12, 2017 03:54 PM (6JL3d)

263 The coast is mostly small towns. The evil in Oregon is in the 'left middle' along the I-5 corridor mostly.

It's Commies all the way down.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 12, 2017 03:54 PM (mcI77)

264 238 You want to coerce people to do something? Force them to witness a live birth and a mother holding that child in her arms for the first time.

I doubt most people with a soul would ever feel the same way about abortion after that.

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make one of those medical procedure shows and show a partial birth abortion.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 12, 2017 03:54 PM (vChNs)

265 241 So are they OK with late term abortions for Californians in Oregon?

Maybe even as late as the 280th trimester? That would get nearly all of them.
Posted by: Kristophr at July 12, 2017 03:50 PM (Vkf+s)

IIRC, it is 28 weeks in California, or "Viability", and this is codified in the CA state constitution. But I must go check. Not sure about OR.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 12, 2017 03:55 PM (ujg0T)

266 By the way, if an abortion is not to save the mother's life or is in a case of rape or incest, isn't just birth control?

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 12, 2017 03:11 PM (4e+hS)

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Per Guttmacher, rape and incest excuses are something like 2.5% of all abortions, so it's probably closer to 1% in when the modern reality of fart-rape mentality is taken into account.

It's interesting to note the (D) mirror image of abortion and guns, though.

1% of abortions involve rape and incest, so ALL abortions must be legal.

1% of all guns (far fewer I know, but go with it for the discussion) are involved in crime, so ALL guns must be illegal.

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 12, 2017 03:55 PM (34E+f)

267 Tami: "And then?"

And then nothing. They're likely nihilists. Their brains are mis-wired.

So maybe endless localized abortions is a panacea to cleanse the DNA pool. [*ponders*]

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 12, 2017 03:56 PM (H8S+R)

268 Because only then will "evil" cease to exist, and
(in their mind) good as well. Nothing that others will ask them to
aspire to, nothing they can be criticized for. Just the general meanness
of life with everybody just as purposeless, aimless, and morally void
as they are.

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 12, 2017 03:46 PM (eXSOZ)

Well said.That's also the reasoning some people use to consider the possibility of the flat earth, as the reason for the Heliocentric view supposedly devised 500 years ago- make Man just a cosmic accident with no purpose by stating this world is nothing special, just one of hundreds of trillions.....

Meh, I watch too many You Tube videos......

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 12, 2017 03:56 PM (jjaLl)

269 Any of their failings are the fault of standards, you see. It's dad's fault I didn't make something of myself, so it's wrong for him to have wanted it.

...and thus it ties in, once again, to I Hate You Dad. Which is also in its own way explicitly Satanic.

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 12, 2017 03:56 PM (eXSOZ)

270 248 but how will she make him sammiches?
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 12, 2017 03:48 PM (vChNs)

You have to ask? With her all powerful multitool.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 12, 2017 03:50 PM (tbOMB)

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even finger sammiches?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 12, 2017 03:56 PM (vChNs)

271 254 Who actually reads HA anymore? I gave up on them once the comments changes and the writers went full crazy.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 12, 2017 03:53 PM (TE03o)

They REALLY stepped in it with me once the did the "Commenters have to use their real names, but the staff doesn't." BS

Posted by: Hikaru at July 12, 2017 03:56 PM (9TK8E)

272 I need to get my Oregon carry permit renewed. Hmmm....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 12, 2017 03:50 PM (3OIiX)

No. Find a good sheriff in eastern OR.
I believe they require a shooter safety course first.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 12, 2017 03:53 PM (mcI77)

That's fine. I know they don't have permit reciprocity with WA...do they have it for Utah? They have those classes every weekend up here.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 12, 2017 03:57 PM (3OIiX)

273 It's been on HotAir for over and hour....I counted 14 comments.

Posted by: Tami at July 12, 2017 03:31 PM (Enq6K)

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Damn. Nowadays that's probably a top-left thread with those big numbers.

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 12, 2017 03:57 PM (34E+f)

274 >>> I've always wondered why those women who are dried up hags, very post-menopausal, barren and/or dykes scream the loudest for abortion.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 12, 2017 03:42 PM (vg8iE)

I can answer that with a Book of Mormon quote, if you'll permit me... 2 Nephi 2:27.

"And they are free to choose liberty and eternal life, through the great Mediator of all men, or to choose captivity and death, according to the captivity and power of the devil; for he seeketh that all men might be miserable like unto himself."

Posted by: LizLem at July 12, 2017 03:57 PM (hvf9s)

275 I think the doctors that do abortions are the bottom of their class and couldn't cut it in private practice or anywhere else.

Also they're psychopath murdrerers.

I would never use a doctor or nurse that would perform such depravity.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 12, 2017 03:57 PM (Ri/rl)

276 but how will she make him sammiches?
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 12, 2017 03:48 PM (vChNs)

Fun and joke aside, THIS is why even the most fundamentalist of Christians are better than Muslims. Because if "everyone should read their Bible", everyone has to be able to -- *read*. While many Muslims chant surahs and keep their women illiterate.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 12, 2017 03:57 PM (ujg0T)

277 Was on Weaselzippers two days ago.

https://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=347879

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2017 03:51 PM (IqV8l)

Wait, you are not suggesting Ace has started stealing from WZ instead of HA are you?
Shame.

Posted by: Ralph at July 12, 2017 03:57 PM (aSKOz)

278 I need to get my Oregon carry permit renewed. Hmmm....

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Isn't Oregon like REALLY heavy? you must have GAINZ

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 12, 2017 03:58 PM (vChNs)

279 259 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 12, 2017 03:53 PM (rZ+mb)

And that's why we got 8 years of President Daddy Issues.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 12, 2017 03:58 PM (9TK8E)

280 It's either this, folks. Or we give fetuses the right to vote....democrat.

Posted by: DNC at July 12, 2017 03:58 PM (bxP6N)

281 I'm surprised the Hot Air thread managed to hit 14 comments. They're really burning down the internet with that kind of site traffic.

In the good old days a thread like that would have been a lock for 750 comments.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at July 12, 2017 03:58 PM (tmXZB)

282 Stay away from the pumpernickel.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 12, 2017 03:58 PM (tbOMB)

283 buzzsaw90: "make one of those medical procedure shows and show a partial birth abortion."

This. Show them reality. Do not sanitize the procedure. Do not let them bury their eyes. Take a cue from A Clockwork Orange.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 12, 2017 03:58 PM (H8S+R)

284 To all those who have actively procured abortion, either for herself or for others, or paid for same, the penalty is the same. Even if you don't believe in God or the afterlife, you will pay for it here on earth during your life. Having murdered, you will live with the consequences.

Science and medical studies indicate that the results of abortion are drastically lowered self-esteem, to the point of depression, greatly higher incidence of breast cancer and cancer of the cervix, and an inability to maintain meaningful relationships. I heard another dishonest statement on the tv news about how black women have a much higher incidence of breast cancer, but they did not state that black women have a much higher incidence of abortion as well. Funny how that works together, huh?

Abortion does more than murder a baby, which is horrid enough. The evil it spreads goes a long way to demonstrating just from whence it came. Ending this scourge in America is as pressing as ending slavery was in the 19th century.

And yet, the proggies push it like it was a sacrament.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 12, 2017 03:59 PM (NXsWM)

285 In case you are not paying attention:
In the future, EVERYONE will be REQUIRED to undergo gender reassignment surgery.

Oh sure. It sounds like a joke now.

Posted by: simplemind at July 12, 2017 04:00 PM (A5B72)

286 It's been on HotAir for over and hour....I counted 14 comments.

Posted by: Tami at July 12, 2017 03:31 PM (Enq6K)

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BTW, I remember looking in on election night and the following day. They had around 100 comments, and that's counting all the responses that aren't tallied on the main page that you have to click to see.

On f*cking election night.

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 12, 2017 04:00 PM (34E+f)

287 Sorry I meant adoption overseas is cheaper and you are guaranteed the parents won't come after the baby. We have had a friend lose their adopted child because the Tribe sued to get her back.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 12, 2017 03:53 PM (dKiJG)

My SIL first baby she adopted the mother changed her mind after 2 days. It was really sad.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 12, 2017 04:00 PM (Ri/rl)

288 284 And yet, the proggies push it like it was a sacrament.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 12, 2017 03:59 PM (NXsWM)

They get off on the power rush of the Thrill of the Kill.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 12, 2017 04:00 PM (9TK8E)

289 Also they're psychopath murdrerers.

I would never use a doctor or nurse that would perform such depravity.

It'd be better by far to receive care from a coroner, since at least he hasn't *killed* anyone.

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 12, 2017 04:00 PM (eXSOZ)

290 Because if "everyone should read their Bible",

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let's not get all crazy here

Posted by: Catholic Church at July 12, 2017 04:00 PM (vChNs)

291 Pure Evil...

Posted by: USNtakim at July 12, 2017 04:01 PM (zZWkn)

292 I know they don't have permit reciprocity with WA...do they have it for Utah?

We avoid OR for just this reason.

Not sure about Utah.

PIA to break the firearms down and lock up with ammo and such. We just go around through ID to get to the southwest.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 12, 2017 04:01 PM (mcI77)

293 is the reason for the Heliocentric view supposedly devised 500 years ago- make Man just a cosmic accident with no purpose by stating this world is nothing special, just one of hundreds of trillions.....

Meh, I watch too many You Tube videos......

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 12, 2017 03:56 PM (jjaLl)
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Probably because that's pop history on Heliocentrism. Pretty much standard DeGrasse Tyson slop, with is post-Copernican themology of the universe.

The actual case is presented by historian James Hannan, who says that we actually didn't want to be basement (or cellar) of the universe. We found it God's way of humbling us putting us at the bottom of the well.

Cultured men would much rather be among the "music of the spheres" the orderly and celestial arrangement of the heavens.

Posted by: Axeman at July 12, 2017 04:02 PM (2mC6G)

294 >>> https://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=347879
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2017 03:51 PM (IqV8l)

If illegal aliens abort, how will they have their dreamer anchor babies the left worships so much?

Posted by: LizLem at July 12, 2017 04:02 PM (hvf9s)

295 National Review: Where Cucks Thump Their Chests While They're Wives Get Screwed

Posted by: MaxMBJ at July 12, 2017 04:02 PM (Q3oNv)

296 It's interesting to note the (D) mirror image of abortion and guns, though.

1% of abortions involve rape and incest, so ALL abortions must be legal.

1% of all guns (far fewer I know, but go with it for the discussion) are involved in crime, so ALL guns must be illegal.
Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 12, 2017 03:55 PM (34E+f)

To be fair, guns are icky and stuff, while abortion is so nicely santized.

Or some such assinine lack of logic.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 12, 2017 04:02 PM (NXsWM)

297 201
I've never understood that.

I've actually had liberals turn it around to me, and ask me why I don't support abortion but do support capital punishment.

Duh. There is the small matter of moral culpability distinguishing the two.

Posted by: Josef Mengele at July 12, 2017 03:39 PM (SRKgf)

I'd be 100% ok with a compromise where where we get rid of both.

Somehow I don't think liberals would accept that, though.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 12, 2017 03:44 PM (KUaJL)
\***Yeah - I've had a few liberal heads explode when this is pointed out to them. Apparently when leftards talk to each other and smugly point out that the "right" supports capital punishment but is against abortion ( hah ha) this retort never seems to occur to them. Telling piece of information about a person, isn't it?
I mean for f*ck's sake the Bible is pretty clear that capital punishment is OK under certain circumstances and is pretty clearly against the destruction of the innocents - but whatever.

Posted by: Publius Redux at July 12, 2017 04:03 PM (Fb9aZ)

298 They REALLY stepped in it with me once the did the "Commenters have to use their real names, but the staff doesn't." BS

The Leftist Creed,

"Do as I Say, Not as I Do"

Posted by: rd at July 12, 2017 04:03 PM (4dz1m)

299 And then nothing. They're likely nihilists.

Nuthin' to be afraid of, then.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at July 12, 2017 04:03 PM (Xuv2G)

300 In the future, EVERYONE will be REQUIRED to undergo gender reassignment surgery.

Oh, sure, that's the avenue of bio-transhumanism that will get support. Where are my claws and scales, dammit?

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 12, 2017 04:03 PM (eXSOZ)

301 This is bad politics. Late-term abortions, and state taxes paying for abortions, are losers with most Americans.

Payback at the polls. Even in Oregon

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 12, 2017 04:03 PM (+7/1f)

302 It'd be better by far to receive care from a coroner, since at least he hasn't *killed* anyone.
Posted by: Sporkatus at July 12, 2017 04:00 PM (eXSOZ)

I would be much more comfortable with a coroner than an abortionist.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 12, 2017 04:03 PM (Ri/rl)

303 >>>If illegal aliens abort

I don't think aliens need to abort. That's why they're always doing that butt stuff.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 12, 2017 04:03 PM (ENB12)

304 "With the Oregon government forcing ALL taxpayers to pay for abortions, I
wonder if the Catholic Diocese out there will sue the state for forcing
this upon its believers."

I would think so. Coincidentally (or not), the Catholic Church in Oregon was at the center of a landmark SCOTUS religious freedom case in 1925 (Pierce vs. Society of Sisters), in which the state had attempted to outlaw all non-public schools and SCOTUS eventually struck that law down.

Posted by: Secret Square at July 12, 2017 04:04 PM (+HoK2)

305 Might be easier to get your Washington State permit. Oregon is May Issue, but does recognize permits from states that immediately border it.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 12, 2017 03:53 PM (jxbfJ)

I stand corrected. OR does not recognize any state's permit. They offer CCW permits to citizens of border states.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 12, 2017 04:04 PM (jxbfJ)

306 What the hell happened to Scarborough's hair? Birds could build in a nest in it. Jesus.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 12, 2017 04:04 PM (CNHr1)

307 283 buzzsaw90: "make one of those medical procedure shows and show a partial birth abortion."

This. Show them reality. Do not sanitize the procedure. Do not let them bury their eyes. Take a cue from A Clockwork Orange.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 12, 2017 03:58 PM (H8S+R)

Yes, as long as the truth is hidden, a lot of progs are on board. I've spoken to a lot of Europeans who march in the streets to get women their abortions, but as soon as I explain that here in the US , the left wants all-forms available at all points along the pregnancy, up to even birth, they then recoil in horror! " Oh, no! After the 12th week, it shouldn't happen!"

And yet, they can't figure out that their continent is decayed and dying.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at July 12, 2017 04:04 PM (oQQwD)

308 I support ending capital punishment. 50 years in The Box is much, much better.

Enjoy.

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 12, 2017 04:05 PM (34E+f)

309 287 Sorry I meant adoption overseas is cheaper and you are guaranteed the parents won't come after the baby. We have had a friend lose their adopted child because the Tribe sued to get her back.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 12, 2017 03:53 PM (dKiJG)

My SIL first baby she adopted the mother changed her mind after 2 days. It was really sad.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 12, 2017 04:00 PM (Ri/rl)

Adoption is outrageously expensive, overseas or not. Our son ended up costing us about 36K before we could bring him home. Everyone gets a cut, from the lawyers to the immigration folks to the judges and the social workers. All because we decided to raise a kid who had no parents.

An abortion can be had for $500, much of it paid for by the government.

And you get more of what you subsidize.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 12, 2017 04:05 PM (NXsWM)

310 >>> In the future, EVERYONE will be REQUIRED to undergo gender reassignment surgery. Oh sure. It sounds like a joke now.

My gay joke looks almost prophetic now, doesn't it?

Posted by: Bob Hope at July 12, 2017 04:06 PM (hvf9s)

311 Sitting here trying to read and keep track of new threads i went to sleep and missed this one. OR is rapidly trying to become the most FU State in the union. This law is patently unconstitutional, but then again, so was Obamacare. Thank you Dread Pirate "its a tax" Roberts you traitorous worm.

But OR is one of the few States I have never been to and I will be sure to make it a point to avoid it like the plague if I am one the west coast again. anybody that is a big enough fool to live there deserves what they get.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 12, 2017 04:06 PM (mpXpK)

312 61 "Its my body, but its your money, sucker!"
-sluts_
__________________

Yep.

"My Body, My Choice . . . Your Money!"

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 12, 2017 04:06 PM (IBcGJ)

313 I stand corrected. OR does not recognize any state's permit. They offer CCW permits to citizens of border states.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 12, 2017 04:04 PM (jxbfJ)

I live in Alaska. We carry under the 2nd Amendment. Molon Labe.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 12, 2017 04:06 PM (NXsWM)

314 What the hell happened to Scarborough's hair? Birds could build in a nest in it. Jesus.

Are you going to Scarborough's hair? Remember me to the swan that lives there.

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 12, 2017 04:06 PM (eXSOZ)

315 And Yet... I'm SURE all these people are anti Death Penalty....

Posted by: Don Q. at July 12, 2017 04:07 PM (NgKpN)

316 244 I pray for an end to abortion, One day humanity will look back and wonder why. Abortion is murder hands down. murder, murder, murder. God have mercy.
Posted by: USNtakim at July 12, 2017 03:50 PM (zZWkn)

I think future generations of human beings will look back on this time and label it the second holocaust, dwarfing the first. That is, if we last that long.

Posted by: West at July 12, 2017 04:07 PM (1Rgee)

317 Cultured men would much rather be among the "music of the spheres" the orderly and celestial arrangement of the heavens.

Posted by: Axeman at July 12, 2017 04:02 PM (2mC6G)

Hmmmm. I confess I'm not seeing much of a difference between the two- they both seem, to me, to make Man smaller than we otherwise would be if we still believed in the Firmament.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 12, 2017 04:07 PM (jjaLl)

318 I have relatives who live in Oregon, and they do not support this crap.

Posted by: no good deed at July 12, 2017 04:07 PM (hsb2w)

319 And you get more of what you subsidize.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 12, 2017 04:05 PM (NXsWM)

As I said earlier, there aren't enough babies. I know many couples that can't have children and can't afford to adopt.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 12, 2017 04:07 PM (Ri/rl)

320
What the hell happened to Scarborough's hair?

Are you going to Scarborough's hair?
Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2017 04:08 PM (IqV8l)

321 318 I have relatives who live in Oregon, and they do not support this crap.

Posted by: no good deed at July 12, 2017 04:07 PM (hsb2w)

They may not, but their tax dollars will.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 12, 2017 04:08 PM (9TK8E)

322 anybody that is a big enough fool to live there deserves what they get.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 12, 2017 04:06 PM (mpXpK)

Like say....OregonMuse?

Posted by: Tami at July 12, 2017 04:08 PM (Enq6K)

323 You know - I am very anti abortion (Catholic) but someone on here posited the other day that they decided to be "pro" abortion so that all fucktarded lefties will abort their next generations thus leaving us right-wingers in charge. I gotta tell ya, the devil on my left shoulder is starting to make a whole lotta sense giving me that advice.

That being said - how long until the socialist communist dem criminal terrorist organizations (I know - repetitive!) mandate that you MUST HAVE abortions
Posted by: Publius Redux
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The authors of the book Freakonomics posited that legalizing abortions was the cause of the drop in crime starting in the 90's.

States that legalized abortions saw their crime rate fall earlier.

The crime drop in high abortion states is concentrated among the age groups born after Roe v. Wade.. older populations saw no drop.

just sayin'

Personally.. I was born and raised Catholic, but have since decided to let God sort it out.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 12, 2017 04:08 PM (so+oy)

324 304 "With the Oregon government forcing ALL taxpayers to pay for abortions, I
wonder if the Catholic Diocese out there will sue the state for forcing
this upon its believers."

I would think so. Coincidentally (or not), the Catholic Church in Oregon was at the center of a landmark SCOTUS religious freedom case in 1925 (Pierce vs. Society of Sisters), in which the state had attempted to outlaw all non-public schools and SCOTUS eventually struck that law down.

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I would be happy to contribute to any lawsuit fund. Even though I am Protestant.

Posted by: rd at July 12, 2017 04:08 PM (4dz1m)

325
It won't happen. What WILL happen is an increased callousness towards abortion in particular and killing in general. Look at how blase Christians have become about pre-marital sex, cohabitation, unmarried parents, etc.; e.g. maybe it's not for them, but they can't possibly say or do anything that might be seen as judgmental.

My nephew was flabbergasted when I told him that he was welcome to spend the night at my place: his girlfriend could have the guest room, he my room, and me the sofa. Don't know what the gf thought and don't care.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 12, 2017 03:45 PM (G8B7r)

Pope Paul the VI said this would all happen in his Humanea Vitae, published July 25, 1968. Unfortunately, not even the Catholic Church will admit that Paulie was right on the money.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at July 12, 2017 04:08 PM (oQQwD)

326 "Probably because that's pop history on Heliocentrism. Pretty much standard DeGrasse Tyson slop, with is post-Copernican themology of the universe. "

I thought the real lesson here was that while the Catholic Church was slow to accept the science of Heliocentrism, it did in fact, and changed its calendar accordingly, in light of science, which other major religions haven't done.

Note that his had the effect of changing how the Church determined which day is Easter, which is actually a Big Fucking Deal for Christians, and using science to change how they did it is another Big Fucking Deal.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 12, 2017 04:08 PM (+7/1f)

327 It's this that got us Trump.

Keep at it, ya fvck wits. See what happens.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 12, 2017 04:08 PM (TwwWO)

328 Thst Hair was a true friend of mine

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2017 04:09 PM (Ot7+c)

329 Lesbo governor signs abortion bill.

I am reminded of the fags that shouted out a straight couple that went to a fag bag by calling them "Breeders".

Queers feel VERY threatened by "Breeders".

Posted by: Ralph at July 12, 2017 04:09 PM (aSKOz)

330 >>> Are you going to Scarborough's hair?
Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme.

Remember Mika once lived there
She once was a true scrunt of mine.

Posted by: things Garfunkel and simon meant to write at July 12, 2017 04:10 PM (hvf9s)

331 Bar, not Bag

Posted by: Ralph at July 12, 2017 04:10 PM (aSKOz)

332 I have relatives who live in Oregon, and they do not support this crap.
Posted by: no good deed
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Maybe conservatives will be in the majority in a few generations if they allow all the libtards to abort at will.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 12, 2017 04:10 PM (so+oy)

333 So if I had went west, I could be paddling about in a slush fund? Another reason to get the Hell out of Phithadelphia.

Posted by: Dr Kermit Gosnell at July 12, 2017 04:10 PM (326rv)

334 As I said earlier, there aren't enough babies. I know many couples that can't have children and can't afford to adopt.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 12, 2017 04:07 PM (Ri/rl)

You CAN adopt, but not a baby. There are lots of kids in the system, who have been abused and have serious health issues, all of whom need a stable family, and the cost is not severe. But, you have to be prepared to take that burden on, and most people looking to make a family are not so prepared.

Most adoptable babies are aborted, hands down.

It is sick and disgusting.

Do NOT let anyone tell you that any children are unwanted. There are plenty of potential adoptive parents waiting, and many end up aging out.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 12, 2017 04:10 PM (NXsWM)

335 >>>fag bag

BOD?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 12, 2017 04:10 PM (ENB12)

336 328 Ok, should have used Joe as a sockpuppet

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2017 04:10 PM (Ot7+c)

337 sigh

I still want go to Bandon Dunes Golf resort on the SW coast of Oregon someday. But why? Why does the left have to ruin everything? Oregon is such a beauty of a state. Never been there but I have yet to see a bad picture of it. Lovely scenery.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 12, 2017 04:10 PM (Sl5v4)

338 322 Like say....OregonMuse?

Posted by: Tami at July 12, 2017 04:08 PM (Enq6K)

I have a feeling that he will be moving out as soon as he can. He is originally from CA and I have lived there. I left in 1977 and will never go back there either.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 12, 2017 04:11 PM (mpXpK)

339 Might be easier to get your Washington State permit. Oregon is May Issue, but does recognize permits from states that immediately border it.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 12, 2017 03:53 PM (jxbfJ)

I stand corrected. OR does not recognize any state's permit. They offer CCW permits to citizens of border states.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 12, 2017 04:04 PM (jxbfJ)

Oh I've had my WA permit since 95. I have an Oregon permit that's about to expire so I'll head down to the Tri Cities some weekend soon and see how much trouble renewal will be. Permit or no, I'm never unarmed especially in Portland. I've seen more fights right out in the streets than any other major city I've been in.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 12, 2017 04:11 PM (3OIiX)

340 And you get more of what you subsidize.

In Arkansas, if you reside within the state and adopt a child from the state, they absorb the cost. I need to look into the rules for Maryland. I have been doing some serious soul searching on adoption for a while.

Posted by: no good deed at July 12, 2017 04:11 PM (hsb2w)

341 Taxpayer-supported sacrifice to Molech violates the Establishment Clause.

Posted by: Zapp Branigan at July 12, 2017 04:11 PM (FgFCM)

342 @335 see @331

Posted by: Ralph at July 12, 2017 04:11 PM (aSKOz)

343 Maybe conservatives will be in the majority in a few generations if they allow all the libtards to abort at will.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 12, 2017 04:10 PM (so+oy)

... we have a winner. Please come to the pay window to collect your prize.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 12, 2017 04:12 PM (R/01c)

344 Driving out of Philadelphia today on Ridge Ave, stopped at a light and a black guy on a grey horse comes across as the cross traffic.

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2017 04:12 PM (Ot7+c)

345 I wish someone would post a new thread. This is depressing AF.

Posted by: Tami at July 12, 2017 04:12 PM (Enq6K)

346 341 Taxpayer-supported sacrifice to Molech violates the Establishment Clause.

Posted by: Zapp Branigan at July 12, 2017 04:11 PM (FgFCM)

So did letting off the Muslima who murdered her baby because Islam, but that didn't stop them from letting her off.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 12, 2017 04:12 PM (9TK8E)

347 *sigh* I should have known with this crew.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 12, 2017 04:13 PM (CNHr1)

348 I just got here and it's beyond 300 but I read the referenced piece online and consider this:

An illegal in her third term, late in the term, can get a taxpayer funded abortion for any reason at all. Sex selection, whatever. No ifs no buts no questions.

I sincerely hope it passes in full and becomes the law of the land in Oregon, then in Washington and then in California, and every single Catholic hospital and clinic closes down in all three states.

In fact, the Catholic church should pull out of all three states entirely. Churches, schools, soup kitchens, missions, everything.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 12, 2017 04:13 PM (U6f54)

349 What the hell happened to Scarborough's hair?

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He likes it to look just like my bush

Posted by: Mika B at July 12, 2017 04:13 PM (vChNs)

350 Adoption is outrageously expensive, overseas or not. Our son ended up costing us about 36K before we could bring him home. Everyone gets a cut, from the lawyers to the immigration folks to the judges and the social workers. All because we decided to raise a kid who had no parents.

Yup. Been there, done that. Every time my daughter opens her almost-teenager mouth I wonder if it was worth it.

Yeah, it was.

Posted by: JEM at July 12, 2017 04:13 PM (TppKb)

351
Driving out of Philadelphia today on Ridge Ave, stopped at a light and a black guy on a grey horse comes across as the cross traffic.
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2017 04:12 PM

Maybe he's one of those Apocalypse guys

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2017 04:13 PM (IqV8l)

352 What the hell happened to Scarborough's hair?

Poor genes, stress, Rogaine fail and time.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 12, 2017 04:14 PM (NyJwR)

353 Seriously... he makes Jack Lord look like a piker and Jack Lord was IN LOVE with his hair.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 12, 2017 04:14 PM (CNHr1)

354 It seems like there should be some organization that would coordinate the actions and message of elected officials on the right.

That way, individual congressmen and senators wouldn't go on camera and eat large bags of dicks for the media.

Posted by: jwest at July 12, 2017 04:14 PM (Zs4uk)

355 343 Maybe conservatives will be in the majority in a few generations if they allow all the libtards to abort at will.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 12, 2017 04:10 PM (so+oy)

... we have a winner. Please come to the pay window to collect your prize.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 12, 2017 04:12 PM (R/01c)

The WSJ editorial people used to trumpet this claim all the time, but then they would advocate open borders which would more than undo this phenomenon at the same time.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 12, 2017 04:14 PM (ujg0T)

356 Pizzagate!

Posted by: Very Undude at July 12, 2017 04:14 PM (2X7pN)

357 What the hell happened to Scarborough's hair?
............

Somebody switched Don Lemon's Toppik for Mika's hair spray, which he uses before every show.

Posted by: wth at July 12, 2017 04:15 PM (HgMAr)

358 Yup. Been there, done that. Every time my daughter opens her almost-teenager mouth I wonder if it was worth it.

Yeah, it was.
Posted by: JEM at July 12, 2017 04:13 PM (TppKb)

The DIY kits don't turn out any better. Trust me.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 12, 2017 04:15 PM (R/01c)

359 California, Oregon, Washington State, Hawaii, North Korea, the odd habits of the Japanese - is there something about the Pacific Ocean that turns people crazy?

Posted by: josephistan at July 12, 2017 04:16 PM (7HtZB)

360 What the hell happened to Scarborough's hair?
............

He's just trying to distract everyone from noticing how close his eyes are together.

Posted by: wth at July 12, 2017 04:16 PM (HgMAr)

361 335. It's a messenger bag.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 12, 2017 04:16 PM (TwwWO)

362 You know, if Trump came out in favor of all-ages free abortion...

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 12, 2017 04:16 PM (34E+f)

363 RodinellaMamma, I see that Humana Vitae is available for free online. Will have to read it! Thanks!

Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 12, 2017 04:16 PM (G8B7r)

364 No no no. This will not work. Not enough brown people in Portland.

Posted by: Zombie Peg Sanger at July 12, 2017 04:16 PM (mcI77)

365 Yup. Been there, done that. Every time my daughter opens her almost-teenager mouth I wonder if it was worth it.

Yeah, it was.
Posted by: JEM
................
Gosh.. I remember those years.. not fondly...

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 12, 2017 04:16 PM (so+oy)

366 Breitbart is on the Clinton's and the uranium deal.

This shit is going to get real

http://tinyurl.com/y92vgnkq

Posted by: Ralph at July 12, 2017 04:17 PM (aSKOz)

367 This is a good thing because all of us our property of the state. And if it turns out to be cheaper to raise these would be aborts- they could serve our future needs in other ways, then they should be encouraged to be birthed and adopted out. But not with full human status- maybe only 3/5ths rights and recognition, since only about 60% of unintended pregnancies are carried to term. That's my compromise and I'm sticking to it.

Posted by: Adolf Sanger at July 12, 2017 04:17 PM (bxP6N)

368 "Driving out of Philadelphia today on Ridge Ave, stopped at a light
and a black guy on a grey horse comes across as the cross traffic.

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2017 04:12 PM

Maybe he's one of those Apocalypse guys"

Definitely not the Pale Rider.

My vote is on LeRoy Rogers.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2017 04:17 PM (OmOvC)

369 348 I just got here and it's beyond 300 but I read the referenced piece online and consider this:

An illegal in her third term, late in the term, can get a taxpayer funded abortion for any reason at all. Sex selection, whatever. No ifs no buts no questions.

I sincerely hope it passes in full and becomes the law of the land in Oregon, then in Washington and then in California, and every single Catholic hospital and clinic closes down in all three states.

In fact, the Catholic church should pull out of all three states entirely. Churches, schools, soup kitchens, missions, everything.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 12, 2017 04:13 PM (U6f54)

If the Catholic Church had a real hard core true believer Pope, would he ever ban the Faithful from living there?

Posted by: rd at July 12, 2017 04:17 PM (4dz1m)

370 Want to hear something depressing, If roe v wade were reversed today nothing would change in the NE states or the left coast. Abortion has been pushed onto the backs of this country by a small minority. SPIT

Posted by: USNtakim at July 12, 2017 04:17 PM (zZWkn)

371 I thought the real lesson here was that while the Catholic Church was slow to accept the science of Heliocentrism, it did in fact, and changed its calendar accordingly, in light of science, which other major religions haven't done.

Note that his had the effect of changing how the Church determined which day is Easter, which is actually a Big Fucking Deal for Christians, and using science to change how they did it is another Big Fucking Deal.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 12, 2017 04:08 PM (+7/1f)
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Good point. And another reason I'm glad to be a Christian (among other religions). And now I realized that I chimed in about the wrong topic. I started in about about the Earth-centric model, not Heliocentrism.

Interesting though, that until Koeppler figured out the arc of the planets, Heleocentrism lost scientific debates because it varied from empiric measurements more than the pre-Copernican model.

Posted by: Axeman at July 12, 2017 04:17 PM (2mC6G)

372 Driving out of Philadelphia today on Ridge Ave, stopped at a light and a black guy on a grey horse comes across as the cross traffic.
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2017 04:12 PM

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them Amish sure do get around

Posted by: Mika B at July 12, 2017 04:18 PM (vChNs)

373
I am reminded of the fags that shouted out a straight couple that went to a fag bag by calling them "Breeders".

What is a fag bag?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2017 04:18 PM (IqV8l)

374 365
Yup. Been there, done that. Every time my daughter opens her almost-teenager mouth I wonder if it was worth it.

Yeah, it was.

Posted by: JEM

................

Gosh.. I remember those years.. not fondly...

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 12, 2017 04:16 PM (so+oy)

I always tell pregnant moms that if it's a boy, don't teach him to walk and if it's a girl, don't teach her to talk.

Posted by: Tami at July 12, 2017 04:18 PM (Enq6K)

375 He's just trying to distract everyone from noticing how close his eyes are together.

Posted by: wth at July 12, 2017 04:16 PM (HgMAr)

Right!?!?!

He's practically a fuckin' Cyclops!!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 12, 2017 04:19 PM (jjaLl)

376 A question for the business minded members of the Horde:

I'm a freelance writer, and I've been voluntarily exclusive with a client for the past 13 years. I've been able to do that because I've had a side gig.

Well, my side gig is going away, and now the exclusive client has limited my freelance input for the rest of the year.

How in the world do I say to him "OK, no problem. BTW, I'm going to start pitching things to your competitors?"

BTW... there are not that many competitors and he hates them all. I don't want to lose him as a client, since he's now my primary source of income, however, I kind of have no other fnancial choice at this point.

Help. Please. I have no idea how to do this...

Posted by: shibumi at July 12, 2017 04:19 PM (aT+Bx)

377 What the hell happened to Scarborough's hair?

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I bet he could hide 2 dead interns in that

Posted by: Mika B at July 12, 2017 04:19 PM (vChNs)

378 The DIY kits don't turn out any better. Trust me.

Here's the thing. I'm a once-and-future poobah in a local service club, and she's been involved since she was, oh, 7 or 8. She works her ass off. She serves food, she can do table service at club events, she knows how to do the credit-card processing, she can take direction from any adult in the club. Nine, ten, twelve hours, she is faultlessly polite and understands her job completely whatever it is.

Well, except for anything I might ask her to do.

So she KNOWS what matters, it's just how she APPLIES it.

Posted by: JEM at July 12, 2017 04:19 PM (TppKb)

379 "Every time my daughter opens her almost-teenager mouth I wonder if it was worth it."

old church joke:
Q.Why did Abraham offer Isaac up to be sacrificed when he was 12 years old?
A. Because if he had been 13, it wouldn't have been a sacrifice.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2017 04:19 PM (OmOvC)

380 Pedos, Trannies, Abortion, and Butt Stuff.

-Proposed Refrain for the surefire hit "Scarborough's Hair".

Posted by: Hikaru at July 12, 2017 04:19 PM (9TK8E)

381 Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2017 03:49 PM (/tuJf)

I like Sarah Huckabee. She's smart, She takes no prisoners and she does it all with a smile.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2017 04:19 PM (iVOAv)

382 373
I am reminded of the fags that shouted out a straight couple that went to a fag bag by calling them "Breeders".

What is a fag bag?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2017 04:18 PM (IqV8l)

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Oh honey, let me be clear...

Posted by: First Historic Black and Black Gay President at July 12, 2017 04:20 PM (34E+f)

383 @373

SEE @331 The G on a keyboard is just below a R, for those of us that touch type.

Posted by: Ralph at July 12, 2017 04:20 PM (aSKOz)

384 368 "Driving out of Philadelphia today on Ridge Ave, stopped at a light
and a black guy on a grey horse comes across as the cross traffic.

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2017 04:12 PM

Maybe he's one of those Apocalypse guys"

Definitely not the Pale Rider.

My vote is on LeRoy Rogers.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2017 04:17 PM (OmOvC)
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The Dark Knight

Posted by: Mika B at July 12, 2017 04:20 PM (vChNs)

385 It's all connected.

Young females get an abortion, which they regret.

Their regret becomes a psychological disorder.

She needs a psychologist, who tells the girl that she has identification issues.

She then enrolls in a college to take womyn's studies to improve her self-esteem.

She is then told men are bad, heterosexual sex is rape and lesbianism is liberating.

She files a lawsuit against all men for discrimination and insensitivity.

She paints her hair purple, puts on 80 pounds and develop a drug habit.

She then has to go to rehab every year or so.

In the end, the abortionist, psychologist, co0llege professor, social justice lawyer and rehab specialists all make money off of her decision.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 12, 2017 04:20 PM (4AVeu)

386 Tami at July 12, 2017 04:18 PM

I like that

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2017 04:20 PM (Ot7+c)

387 373. Messenger bag.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 12, 2017 04:21 PM (TwwWO)

388 "Driving out of Philadelphia today on Ridge Ave, stopped at a light and a black guy on a grey horse comes across as the cross traffic.

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2017 04:12 PM

Maybe he's one of those Apocalypse guys"

Revelations 6-8.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 12, 2017 04:21 PM (YxyYj)

389 >>In fact, the Catholic church should pull out of all three states
entirely. Churches, schools, soup kitchens, missions, everything.

Don't you think that's the endgame for the Left?
Obamacare certainly was designed to do this.
Then you have activist entertainers like Samantha Bee specifically attacking Catholic hospitals over abortion. http://preview.tinyurl.com/z4zjqt9

These hospitals (and other Christian hospitals) value life in al sorts of ways beyond abortion, and will not be easily pushed to adhere to other life-trimming government policies. I don'twant them to close.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 12, 2017 04:21 PM (NOIQH)

390 I kind of have no other fnancial choice at this point.

Help. Please. I have no idea how to do this...

Posted by: shibumi at July 12, 2017 04:19 PM (aT+Bx)

Tell him that.

Posted by: Tami at July 12, 2017 04:22 PM (Enq6K)

391 Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2017 04:19 PM (OmOvC)

Someone posted here a couple of weeks ago something like "I don't know how 14 year old boys make it to 15 because a15 year old teen boy is a never ending math with an attitude." I laughed a lot. My son is somewhat delayed, We're living with 14 year old never ending mouth at 17.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2017 04:22 PM (iVOAv)

392
Driving out of Philadelphia today on Ridge Ave, stopped at a light
and a black guy on a grey horse comes across as the cross traffic.

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2017 04:12 PM

He rode a blazing saddle.

https://youtu.be/KGcfHvUTfac

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2017 04:22 PM (IqV8l)

393 375 He's just trying to distract everyone from noticing how close his eyes are together.

Posted by: wth at July 12, 2017 04:16 PM (HgMAr)

yeah, that too. He truly is a weird looking creature.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 12, 2017 04:22 PM (CNHr1)

394 385 She paints her hair purple, puts on 80 pounds and develop a drug habit.

She then has to go to rehab every year or so.

In the end, the abortionist, psychologist, co0llege professor, social justice lawyer and rehab specialists all make money off of her decision.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 12, 2017 04:20 PM (4AVeu)

And it's ALWAYS freaking Purple, too.

Freshly-divorced women in their 50s who decide it's time to take the late-life Magic Carpet Ride?

Purple over the Grey.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 12, 2017 04:23 PM (9TK8E)

395 Help. Please. I have no idea how to do this...

Posted by: shibumi at July 12, 2017 04:19 PM (aT+Bx)

Your client knows all of the competitors? Sounds like a rather specific business, any way you could branch out to another, non-competitive area of work?

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 12, 2017 04:23 PM (jjaLl)

396 I am reminded of the fags that shouted out a straight couple that went to a fag bag by calling them "Breeders".

What is a fag bag?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

J Crew Messenger Bag with included butt plug?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 12, 2017 04:23 PM (YxyYj)

397 In fact, the Catholic church should pull out of all three states entirely. Churches, schools, soup kitchens, missions, everything.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 12, 2017 04:13 PM (U6f54)

If the Catholic Church had a real hard core true believer Pope, would he ever ban the Faithful from living there?

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time for an old school Interdiction

Posted by: Mika B at July 12, 2017 04:23 PM (vChNs)

398 In fact, the Catholic church should pull out of all three states entirely.

_____________________________________

ISWYDT.

Catholic Church.

Pull out.

Heh.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 12, 2017 04:23 PM (4AVeu)

399 385 It's all connected.

Young females get an abortion, which they regret.

Their regret becomes a psychological disorder.

She needs a psychologist, who tells the girl that she has identification issues.

She then enrolls in a college to take womyn's studies to improve her self-esteem.

She is then told men are bad, heterosexual sex is rape and lesbianism is liberating.

She files a lawsuit against all men for discrimination and insensitivity.

She paints her hair purple, puts on 80 pounds and develop a drug habit.

She then has to go to rehab every year or so.

In the end, the abortionist, psychologist, co0llege professor, social justice lawyer and rehab specialists all make money off of her decision.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 12, 2017 04:20 PM (4AVeu)

And this leads the hetero men to want open borders just for the women. As we say in the San Francisco area, "The women who like men don't speak English and the women who speak English don't like men...."

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 12, 2017 04:23 PM (ujg0T)

400 Maine D for Dumbass

Nood

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2017 04:23 PM (Ot7+c)

401 TW... there are not that many competitors and he hates them all. I don't want to lose him as a client, since he's now my primary source of income, however, I kind of have no other fnancial choice at this point.

Help. Please. I have no idea how to do this...

Posted by: shibumi
..........
Is this exclusivity a formal agreement?

Either way.. just be straight up with him.. my side gig is gone, and with you cutting back, I have to add other clients.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 12, 2017 04:23 PM (so+oy)

402 I kind of have no other fnancial choice at this point.

Help. Please. I have no idea how to do this...

Posted by: shibumi at July 12, 2017 04:19 PM (aT+Bx)

Tell him that.
Posted by: Tami at July 12, 2017 04:22 PM (Enq6K)

This^^^^.

There's no magic bullet for these things.

Calm and straight to the point works best IMHO.

Your mileage may vary.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 12, 2017 04:23 PM (NyJwR)

403 I kind of have no other fnancial choice at this point.

Help. Please. I have no idea how to do this...

Posted by: shibumi at July 12, 2017 04:19 PM (aT+Bx)

Tell him that.
Posted by: Tami at July

well, isn't this the guy that is susceptible to tears?

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 12, 2017 04:24 PM (0wem/)

404 This one is going to the Supremes and by that time maybe a few of the leftists on there will have croaked and replaced by real judges via PDT. Ginsberg needs to go to a nursing home in the Catskills.
Hey, has someone checked that Wise Latina's immigration papers?

Posted by: The Man from Athens at July 12, 2017 04:24 PM (QMwOT)

405 From the looks of Carlos Danger, he lost access to his steroids and HGH. He looks like he has DD saggy tits.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 12, 2017 04:25 PM (2qHjF)

406 380 Pedos, Trannies, Abortion, and Butt Stuff.

-Proposed Refrain for the surefire hit "Scarborough's Hair".
Posted by: Hikaru

Have you seen Joe Scarborough's hair?
Pedos, freaks, abortion and scat.
He dresses with flamboyance and flair.
He now is a traitorous rat.

Posted by: zombie at July 12, 2017 04:25 PM (DQ4Fv)

407
the abortionist, psychologist, college professor, social justice lawyer and rehab specialist...

walk into a bar...

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2017 04:26 PM (IqV8l)

408 Driving out of Philadelphia today on Ridge Ave, stopped at a light and a black guy on a grey horse comes across as the cross traffic.

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2017 04:12 PM

Maybe he's one of those Apocalypse guys"

Revelations 6-8.

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Wow. So um, pretty literal. Philadelphia and all.

Posted by: simplemind at July 12, 2017 04:26 PM (4/sq0)

409 Driving out of Philadelphia today on Ridge Ave, stopped at a light and a black guy on a grey horse comes across as the cross traffic.
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2017 04:12 PM

I'm pretty sure I can place where you were at - there's a little stable down there. There's a "Horse Crossing" sign on the street leading onto Ridge.

Posted by: josephistan at July 12, 2017 04:26 PM (7HtZB)

410 Nood

Posted by: Tami at July 12, 2017 04:27 PM (Enq6K)

411 366 Breitbart is on the Clinton's and the uranium deal.
This shit is going to get real

Posted by: Ralph at July 12, 2017 04:17 PM (aSKOz)

No, it's not.

The only way something against the Clinton's would become "real" is if elected democrats started to question the legality of the deal.

Which they won't do.

Because they're democrats. And only republicans are stupid enough to do that.

So the Clinton's and other democrats can continue to do whatever the fuck they want regardless of the law while people on our side can't even do legal shit without weeks of negative coverage.

Because we're the stupid party.

We elect stupid people.

That's what we do.

Posted by: jwest at July 12, 2017 04:27 PM (Zs4uk)

412 I want to comment on topics like this, but the evil of it enrages me so much it's hard to form something coherent.

They are pure evil, leave it at that.

Also, NOOD.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at July 12, 2017 04:27 PM (72PAC)

413 405 From the looks of Carlos Danger, he lost access to his steroids and HGH. He looks like he has DD saggy tits.
_____________________________________

Good catch. Maybe the 'roids and HGH were making him hypersexual.

His "sex therapy" was probably detoxing him from that shit.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 12, 2017 04:27 PM (4AVeu)

414
"How in the world do I say to him "OK, no problem. BTW, I'm going to start pitching things to your competitors?"

You don't. You invent an alter-ego who only communicates by snail mail. (hey, the Bronte sisters did it)

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2017 04:27 PM (OmOvC)

415 408 Driving out of Philadelphia today on Ridge Ave, stopped at a light and a black guy on a grey horse comes across as the cross traffic.

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2017 04:12 PM

Maybe he's one of those Apocalypse guys"

Revelations 6-8.

===================

Wow. So um, pretty literal. Philadelphia and all.
Posted by: simplemind at July 12, 2017 04:26 PM (4/sq0)

Eagles winning the Super Bowl is a sign of the Apocalypse.

Posted by: josephistan at July 12, 2017 04:27 PM (7HtZB)

416 So...insurers will simply leave Oregon.

Because if Oregon is like most states, they control insurance premium rates.(In case there are still people on here who believe we had free market health care pre Obamacare(yes Mark Levin, I'm talking to you ...) and when the insurers come to the state insurance czar and tell him/her that they need to raise rates by 400% to cover the cost of free abortions(imagine what planned homicide will start charging insurance companies for their procedure), the state will say no.

And the insurers will leave.

Then Oregon will declare victory over the evil insurers and proudly create a single payer plan for every resident, and illegal .

By the way, didn't the SC say that Catholic schools, Christian workplaces, and other objectors cannot be mandated to pay for abortions or birth control? So the AG of Oregon is now willing to spend more taxpayer money on previously decided cases?

Posted by: Jen the original at July 12, 2017 04:28 PM (mnB4H)

417 Because they don't see them as babies, they see them as gooey chemical slop that has no soul, so therefore it's ok to terminate them.

People can easily rationalize murder and genocide by simply not perceiving the people they either kill or support murdering as not being human.

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at July 12, 2017 03:25 PM (+dsLj)

They cannot fathom that which is unseen even exists.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 12, 2017 04:29 PM (17QyB)

418 "How in the world do I say to him "OK, no problem. BTW, I'm going to start pitching things to your competitors?""

Is what you do for your current client "confidential"? i.e. can your client be prejudiced by you potentially providing "inside information" or competitive insight to competitors?

If not, then you argue that if you don't do it, someone else will. So your client shouldn't care, and if he does care for irrational reasons, then he should give you more work if he wants an exclusive

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 12, 2017 04:29 PM (+7/1f)

419 I live in Alaska. We carry under the 2nd Amendment. Molon Labe.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 12, 2017 04:06

Hi tcn, saw a car w/ AK plates yesterday, that's pretty uncommon in N IL.

Posted by: Farmer at July 12, 2017 04:29 PM (lfXAE)

420 This one is going to the Supremes and by that time maybe a few of the leftists on there will have croaked and replaced by real judges via PDT.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at July 12, 2017 04:24 PM (QMwOT)

But the conservatives would likely let this stand. This is a case of states' rights and, actually, is the proper way that abortion was supposed to be handled - meaning by the state and not the feral government.

Personally, while I am against this I would let it stand as being Constitutional the same way that Mittens' pathetic Mass health insurance system is Constitutional for a state to do but illegal to implement from the feral government in any way.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 12, 2017 04:30 PM (rZ+mb)

421 Thank you everyone for your excellent input!

Yes, it's a very specialized industry, two main competitors in the US and three in the UK. Not sure if any of them have the budget for me, but it can't hurt to ask around. I do get paid very well, but right now, he's cutting about 6K from his budget in regards to me, which makes no sense, since my articles have been on the cover for 5 of the last 7 months.

RE: exclusivity, it's not contractoral. None of it is contractual.

I think the "I'd rather not pitch to the other publications, however, since my other work has been eliminated, I have no other financial choice," actually sounds pretty good.

Better than what I would come up with.

THANK YOU all for your help!

The hammer came down today, I'll probably wait to reply until tomorrow. Just beucase I can.

Posted by: shibumi at July 12, 2017 04:30 PM (aT+Bx)

422
376 A question for the business minded members of the Horde:

I'm a freelance writer, and I've been voluntarily exclusive with a client for the past 13 years. I've been able to do that because I've had a side gig.

Well, my side gig is going away, and now the exclusive client has limited my freelance input for the rest of the year.

How in the world do I say to him "OK, no problem. BTW, I'm going to start pitching things to your competitors?"

BTW... there are not that many competitors and he hates them all. I don't want to lose him as a client, since he's now my primary source of income, however, I kind of have no other fnancial choice at this point.

Help. Please. I have no idea how to do this...

Posted by: shibumi at July 12, 2017 04:19 PM (aT+Bx)

Don't. Write for his competitors under a pseudonym in a slightly different style. Make sure you write for more than one with each a different pseudonym. You have no obligation to tell him provided it is not in a contract you signed with him. Getting caught and sacked is a risk but with diversified client base your blow will be cushioned.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at July 12, 2017 04:32 PM (QMwOT)

423 So she KNOWS what matters, it's just how she APPLIES it.
Posted by: JEM at July 12, 2017 04:19 PM

Ah, yes. The age at which they understand English UNLESS you don't use an exact wording and inflection known only to them.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 12, 2017 04:34 PM (G8B7r)

424 I support ending capital punishment. 50 years in The Box is much, much better.

Enjoy.

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I support capital punishment, unless you can guarantee that "life in prison" means total isolation, Supermax treatment, and not Richard Speck party-time.

Posted by: Fortunato at July 12, 2017 04:35 PM (I6i1J)

425 420 This one is going to the Supremes and by that time maybe a few of the leftists on there will have croaked and replaced by real judges via PDT.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at July 12, 2017 04:24 PM (QMwOT)

But the conservatives would likely let this stand. This is a case of states' rights and, actually, is the proper way that abortion was supposed to be handled - meaning by the state and not the feral government.

Personally, while I am against this I would let it stand as being Constitutional the same way that Mittens' pathetic Mass health insurance system is Constitutional for a state to do but illegal to implement from the feral government in any way.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 12, 2017 04:30 PM (rZ+mb)

Normally yes, but killing babies cuts to my core. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Life is #1 on the list.
That and the issue of forcing to pay for or contribute to something that is against one's religious beliefs is prime Supreme territory with the 2nd.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at July 12, 2017 04:38 PM (QMwOT)

426 Is what you do for your current client "confidential"? i.e. can your client be prejudiced by you potentially providing "inside information" or competitive insight to competitors?

If not, then you argue that if you don't do it, someone else will. So your client shouldn't care, and if he does care for irrational reasons, then he should give you more work if he wants an exclusive
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RE: the first, I don't think what I do is necessarily confidential. And we have no contractual relationship.

His other writers have occasionally done pieces in other publications. And the photographers that we work with work for everyone.

Basically, I write monthly "feature articles" and everyone else does "technical reviews." Right now, I'm the only one who does regular monthly features; everyone else does techical stuff. My editor does features as well, and when I left for a while, he handled what I was doing and hated it.

There is also the possibility that he wants to diversify and use other writers who he can pay less.

The last raise I got was in 2013.

Posted by: shibumi at July 12, 2017 04:40 PM (aT+Bx)

427 Don't. Write for his competitors under a pseudonym in a slightly different style. Make sure you write for more than one with each a different pseudonym. You have no obligation to tell him provided it is not in a contract you signed with him. Getting caught and sacked is a risk but with diversified client base your blow will be cushioned.
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This option isn't off the table either.

Posted by: shibumi at July 12, 2017 04:41 PM (aT+Bx)

428 If you want to kill your baby (abortion) then you pay for it.
Is it legal to force someone else (working tax-payers) to pay
for your "mistake".
Oh yeah, thanks Chief Justice Roberts.

Posted by: Glenn John (not Mr winky) at July 12, 2017 04:56 PM (LilNs)

429 "RE: the first, I don't think what I do is necessarily confidential. And we have no contractual relationship."

Client shouldn't care then, if he's being coldly rational. My path is to therefore be upfront about it.

Other suggestions made above were to do it under another name and not tell the client. If client never finds out then you win. Risk is that client finds out. You'll have lost the high ground

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 12, 2017 05:13 PM (+7/1f)

430 "How far are we from having to justify NOT having an abortion?"

Tucker Carlson had a pro-abortion activist on once and she said she "I acknowledge the right for women not to have an abortion so why don't other people acknowledge my right to have one anytime".

TC unfortunately missed that slow pitch down the middle.

Posted by: john doesky at July 12, 2017 05:14 PM (Zpygp)

431 We had commenters here defending the practice [of burning fetuses for heat and fuel -ed]...

Was in Mr Moo Moo? He was a staunch abort fan.

I still owe that P.o.S. a black eye.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 12, 2017 05:20 PM (jhqr1)

432 Oregon becomes first state with huge male-to-female ratio imbalance. In 20 years will begin spending government $$ to encourage straight women to move there to alleviate the crisis.

Posted by: K-E at July 12, 2017 05:21 PM (uOEHQ)

433 Oregon is also, from what I hear, passing a bill legalizing meth, crack, heroin, and XTC (Ecstasy). Hey, what could possibly go wrong? This is the same track they followed with "civil unions." Start with legalizing pot, then legalize everything else, then blame the inevitable Gotterdammerung on Republicans somehow, and demand Moar Money, Right Now for all their "foundations."

Oregon, we hardly knew ye.

Posted by: Beverly at July 12, 2017 05:37 PM (PXfdt)

434 Test

Posted by: creeper, HughesNet deplorable at July 12, 2017 06:16 PM (d20MQ)

435 So, let me get this straight. If you hold a party to announce the gender of your unborn child, that unborn child can be traumatized for life. That means that unborn child has to be cognizant of what's going on around it. But, it's ok to abort that unborn child, no matter how late in the pregnancy. The inconsistency of the left's logic just amazes me.

Posted by: RandySailor at July 13, 2017 02:37 AM (rxsfe)

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