Whoa: Senators Now Asking if Fusion GPS, the PR Firm Behind the Trump Pee-Party Oppo Dump, <i>Is Itself an Agent of Russian Intelligence</i>

Whoa: Senators Now Asking if Fusion GPS, the PR Firm Behind the Trump Pee-Party Oppo Dump, Is Itself an Agent of Russian Intelligence

What?

Sean Davis highlighted this part of Senator Grassley's latest (futile) effort to get the FBI to report to Congress as the law demands. He requests...

Also, more information has since come to the Committee's attention about the company overseeing the creation of the dossier, Fusion GPS. Namely, Fusion GPS is the subject of a complaint to the Justice Department, which alleges that the company violated the Foreign Agents Registration Act by working on behalf of Russian principals to undermine U.S. sanctions against Russians. That unregistered work was reportedly conducted with a former Russian intelligence operative, Mr. Rinat Akhmetshin, and appears to have been occurring simultaneous to Fusion GPS's work overseeing the creation of the dossier. I wrote to the Justice Department about this issue on March 31, copying you, and I have attached that letter here for your reference. The Justice Department has yet to respond.
In addition to fully answering my March 6, 2017 letter, please also provide the following documents and information:
1. Documentation of all payments made to Mr. Steele, including for travel expenses, if any; the date of any such payments; the amount of such payments; the authorization for such payments.
2. When the FBI was in contact with Mr. Steele or otherwise relying on information in the dossier, was it aware that his employer, Fusion GPS, was allegedly simultaneously working as an unregistered agent for Russian interests? Please provide all related documents.
3. If so, when and how did FBI become aware of this information? Did it include this information about Fusion GPS's alleged work for Russian principals in any documents describing or relying on information from the dossier? If not, why not?
4. If the FBI was previously unaware of Fusion GPS's alleged unregistered activity on behalf of Russian interests and connections with a former Russian intelligence operative, does the FBI plan to amend any applications, reports, or other documents it has created that describe or rely on the information in the dossier to add this information? If so, please provide copies of all amended documents. If not, why not?
Please provide all the requested documents and full answers to all the question by May 12, 2017. I hope that this matter can be resolved without additional holds on nominees. These are important issues that require public transparency.

Here is a snippet from that previous letter he attaches to this new one, explaining how Fusion GPS came to be alleged to be in the service of Mother Russia:

Over the past few years, the Committee has repeatedly contacted the Department of Justice to raise concerns about the Department’s lack of enforcement of the Foreign Agents Registration Act (“FARA”). I write regarding the Department's response to the alleged failure of pro-Russia lobbyists to register under FARA. In July of 2016, Mr. William Browder filed a formal FARA complaint with the Justice Department regarding Fusion GPS, Rinat Akhmetshin, and their associates.
His complaint alleged that lobbyists working for Russian interests in a campaign to oppose the pending Global Magnitsky Act failed to register under FARA and the
Lobbying Disclosure Act of 1995. The Committee needs to understand what actions the Justice Department has taken in response to the information in Mr. Browder's complaint. The issue is of particular concern to the Committee given that when Fusion GPS reportedly was acting as an unregistered agent of Russian interests, it appears to have been simultaneously overseeing the creation of the unsubstantiated dossier of allegations of a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russians.
Mr. Browder is the CEO of Hermitage Capital Management (“Hermitage”), an investment firm that at one time was the largest foreign portfolio investor in Russia According to the Justice Department, in 2007, Russian government officials and members of organized crime engaged in corporate identity theft, stealing the corporate identities of three Hermitage companies and using them to fraudulently obtain $230 million.
The $230 million was then extensively laundered into accounts outside of Russia. When Hermitage learned of the situation, its attorneys, including Mr. Sergei Magnitsky, investigated. In December of 2007, Hermitage filed criminal complaints with law enforcement agencies in Russia, complaints which identified the Russian government officials who had been involved. In response, the Russian government
assigned the case to the very officials involved in the crime, who then arrested Mr. Magnitsky and kept him in pretrial detention for nearly a year, until he died under highly suspicious circumstances after being beaten by guards and denied medical treatment.

In response to this, the US passed a "Global Magnitsky Act" imposing sanctions on Russia. Russia retalliated by forbidding US adoptions of Russian orphans.

And they did more than that, it is alleged, recruiting Fusion GPS to push Russian propaganda on Congressmen:

As detailed in press accounts and in Mr. Browder's FARA complaint, in response to hese actions, Prevezon Holdings and the Russian government began a lobbying campaign purportedly designed to try to: repeal the Magnitsky Act; remove the name "Magnitsky" from the Global Magnitsky Act and delay its progress; and cast doubt on the Justice Department's version of events regarding the corporate identity theft of Hermitage's companies, the fraudulently obtained $230 million, and the death of Mr. Magnitsky.
Prevezon's lobbying efforts were reportedly commissioned by Mr. Katsyv, who
organized them through a Delaware non-profit he formed and through the law firm then representing Prevezon in the asset forfeiture case, Baker Hostetler.
Among others, the efforts involved lobbyist Rinat Akhmetshin and Fusion GPS, a political research firm led by Glenn Simpson.
According to press reports, Baker Hostetler partner Mark Cymrot briefed congressional staff on the asset forfeiture case, attempting to discredit the Justice Department's version of events and instead push the Russian government’s account.
Rinat Akhmetshin, along with former Congressman Ron Dellums, reportedly lobbied the House Foreign Affairs Committee, telling staffers "they were lobbying on behalf of a Russian company called Prevezon and ask[ing] [the Committee] to delay the Global Magnitsky Act or at least remove Magnitsky from the name,” as well as telling the staffers "it was a shame that this bill has made it so Russian orphans cannot be adopted by Americans."
Mr. Akhmetshin was also involved in the screening, targeting Congressional staffers and State Department officials, of an anti-Magnitsky propaganda film. For its part, Fusion GPS reportedly "dug up dirt" on Mr. Browder's property and finances, and attempted to generate negative stories about Mr. Browder and Hermitage in the
media, shopping stories to a number of reporters.

All footnotes omitted, but you can view the original to see them.
~~Sean Davis~~ Mollie Hemingway writes this up, and notes Senator Graham asking Comey about this.

Comey refused to answer.

He may have reason not to answer, Hemingway notes:

Grassley said he requested information about this on March 31 but that Justice failed to respond. He is now demanding answers to all of his questions, along with new questions about what the FBI knew about Russian involvement with Fusion GPS, by May 12. The earlier letter... included questions about whether the dossier was used to seek a FISA warrant against anyone. Spoiler: It was strategically leaked that it was.

She links this recent piece as evidence that the garbage Sprinkle Party dossier was in fact used to secure the FISA warrant.

Also, Tapper finds it "damning" that Comey didn't think Loretta Lynch had the credibility to "credibly end this," that is, the investigation into the Clinton email scandal, and to "decline prosecution."

I find it equally damning that Comey viewed it as his, the FBI's, and the DOJ's mission "to credibly end this" [investigation] by "declin[ing] prosecution."

Seems like Comey already had his pre-ordained conclusion firmly in mind; he just didn't think Lynch had the credibility to do the dirty deed herself. So he'd step up to the bat and do what Establishment Washington needed him to do:

Pretty damning comment by Comey about his view of the credibility of how DOJ was handling Clinton email investigation pic.twitter.com/YbeWyV6mWj
— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) May 3, 2017

Posted by: Ace at 02:19 PM

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Posted by: Lord Chancellor johnd01 at May 03, 2017 02:22 PM (ukNFU)

2 Yay! I'll get The Others.

Posted by: Lord Chancellor johnd01 at May 03, 2017 02:22 PM (ukNFU)

3 And what exactly will the GOP do with these new tidbits. Not. A. Cfuking. Thing.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 03, 2017 02:22 PM (i0ykY)

4 The piss party thing was comically unbelievable.

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2017 02:23 PM (r/0kC)

5 The story is written and evidence is moot.

It's.... THE RUSSIANS!!!!!

Posted by: shibumi at May 03, 2017 02:24 PM (8zWAk)

6 Ooooo, I bet this leads rabbithole leads to nowhereville too!

Posted by: Gmac - 'All politics in this country now is dress-rehearsal for civil war' at May 03, 2017 02:24 PM (u7NfH)

7 HEY, who let the Italicans in here? </I>

Posted by: Gmac - 'All politics in this country now is dress-rehearsal for civil war' at May 03, 2017 02:25 PM (u7NfH)

8 Good grief.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 03, 2017 02:25 PM (0mRoj)

10 I so cannot believe that this Russia hacking the election thing is still a thing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 02:26 PM (BjrOM)

11
First it's the Russians, now it's the Italicans.

Will no one rid us of these foreign miscreants????

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 03, 2017 02:26 PM (XWkhW)

12

It all leads to the Barrel.

That the dossier being used by Mensch et al as proof Trump was tied to Russia may be Russian propaganda itself is so delicious that I want it to be true.

Louise Mensch better learn how to do the magic vagina production of yarn because she's going to go through the world's supply soon for her yarn wall of conspiracy.

Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at May 03, 2017 02:26 PM (mf5HN)

13 It's fixed! Hallelujah!

Posted by: Insomniac at May 03, 2017 02:26 PM (0mRoj)

14 Alright. The whole Democrat "Trump is an agent of Putin! Putin was trying to help Trump get elected!" is just another in a series of the Democrats accusing the Republicans of wanting to do the things the Democrats are currently doing.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Hosts the Are We There Yet? Political Party at May 03, 2017 02:26 PM (hLRSq)

15 Still have to read the Russia stuff, but....what amazes *me* is that Tapper et. al. are concerned about Commey's and Obama's DoJ credibility given ALL that Hillary Clinton did.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 03, 2017 02:26 PM (NOIQH)

16 Eh. Nothing will ever come of this. It will be dismissed, because McCarthy was right and nothing much came of that, either. The Russians have been dick deep in the US Government for at least 60 years and they aren't likely to be rooted out by a bunch of Obama cronies who are so secure in their jobs they will not retire without a golden parachute.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 03, 2017 02:28 PM (NXsWM)

17 How does Comey get away with refusing to answer those questions? Is he alleging that the answers are classified? I didn't get that sense from what I saw at the link.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 02:28 PM (sBOL1)

18 Dunno how to shoo the italicans, so yeah more italican commentary!

Wow, Comey really *is* a lightweight, isn't he?

What an idiotic, even-more-damning statement that is, above.

This guy is a lawyer? WTF? What "golden email" was required, einstein? There was a knowing, systematic violation of the key requirements of the Espionage Act, a textbook illustration of violations under the negligence clause. Period.

Case open, and closed.

In calling people like Comey "unfit," I really should be nastier and more specific. He's stupid. If he thinks that his ridiculous malfeasance was the way to protect the integrity of the institutions, he is obviously stupid. He did the exact oppposite.

Which any non-stupid person would see, instantly.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 03, 2017 02:28 PM (iLoHX)

19 Alright. The whole Democrat "Trump is an agent of Putin! Putin was trying to help Trump get elected!" is just another in a series of the Democrats accusing the Republicans of wanting to do the things the Democrats are currently doing.
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It's called projection. A psychological defense mechanism.

Also.. doesn't matter. The media has decided it's The Russians so that is the reality. They define it now.

Posted by: shibumi at May 03, 2017 02:28 PM (8zWAk)

20 I'm calling...WTF are you all doing!?!

Posted by: The 80's at May 03, 2017 02:29 PM (326rv)

21 17 How does Comey get away with refusing to answer those questions? Is he alleging that the answers are classified? I didn't get that sense from what I saw at the link.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 02:28 PM (sBOL1)

Because the rack, the iron and the tongs haven't been applied.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 03, 2017 02:29 PM (0mRoj)

22 who here can honestly say they have never had a piss party with high dollar russian callgirls? pretty normal stuff i hear.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 03, 2017 02:29 PM (KP5rU)

23 I'll admit I just skimmed over this but...

We are now saying that Hillary and McCain conspired with Russia (Fusion GPS) to smear Trump about... Russia.

The Dems and GOPe must have focus-grouped the hell out of "who would be the worst person you could be tied to as far as the left AND right are concerned", came up with Putin's name, and immediately went about tying him to Trump.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 03, 2017 02:30 PM (toi7g)

24 This is all very confusing.
Are we going to indict anyone?
Anyone?

Posted by: MAC-SOG at May 03, 2017 02:30 PM (QPdNE)

25 Let's all do the polka!

Posted by: KAC at May 03, 2017 02:30 PM (ymRuQ)

26 Comey says "the capper" a lot.

Posted by: kallisto at May 03, 2017 02:31 PM (kD8Fh)

27 22 who here can honestly say they have never had a piss party with high dollar russian callgirls? pretty normal stuff i hear.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 03, 2017 02:29 PM (KP5rU)

That's for 1%ers. If anything's going to get peed on around here, I'll have to do it myself.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 03, 2017 02:31 PM (0mRoj)

28 This is all very confusing.
Are we going to indict anyone?
Anyone?
--
Only Republicans.

Posted by: shibumi at May 03, 2017 02:31 PM (8zWAk)

29 and why did Comey reopen the investigation so late? Was that when the NY Police (?) had confiscated Weiner's laptop due to the "child porn/sex talk" charges? And they opened it and said "holy Sh*t" .... and then perhaps pushed Comey to reopen (since they were threatening to reveal it themselves, iirc ... rumors then about child porn or something, pizzagate days).

So do the NYPD still have that info? Or the NY branch of the FBI were asking wtf? ...

If only Hillary had won as planned, all these headaches (for the shadow men) would be washed away. So sad.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 03, 2017 02:32 PM (TmCOq)

30 And what exactly will the GOP do with these new tidbits. Not. A. Cfuking. Thing.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 03, 2017 02:22 PM

Because they still hate Trump (and by extension their own voters) as much as the DC Dems (but I repeat myself) do.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 03, 2017 02:32 PM (toi7g)

31
The Democrats colluded with Russians to spread propaganda that they could use to make people believe that Trump was colluding with Russians.

smfh

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 03, 2017 02:32 PM (C52a9)

32 Shoot I was hoping this was going to be about that dumb millennial "film critic" complaining about the lack of Asians on the Oriental Express.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 02:32 PM (39g3+)

33 Comey is like a dog chasing squirrels. He's clearly not up to doing a comprehensible job.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2017 02:33 PM (oVJmc)

34 Wait, so let me get this straight. Russia was interfering in the election... by interfering in the investigation into Trump about Russian interference? Or put another way, the Democrats are screaming that Russia interfered with the election.... because Russia told them?

I can't tell which is the dog and which is the tail doing the wagging any more.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 03, 2017 02:33 PM (KUaJL)

35
I'll bet the Democrats didn't expect Comey to say that about loretta lynch!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 03, 2017 02:33 PM (N42Z+)

36 This, on top of the revelations the other day about the FBI counterterror linguist who fell head over heels in love with her surveillance target, and eloped with him to become a Jihadi Jane abroad.

(And then of course the FBI gave her the pussy pass when she came back, she doing no hard time over breaking her oaths as a federal law enforcement professional while consorting and collaborating with terrorists. Because women are proud, strong, independent, capable, and have full agency, except when they're weak, emotional, malleable, and easily led.)

There aren't any nooks and crannies anywhere within Fedzilla that aren't packed with institutional dry rot. The entire apparatus at all levels and in all departments is fundamentally unfit for purpose and needs to be torn down.

Yet the Republicans can't even defund PBS. This won't end well.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 03, 2017 02:33 PM (qJjMA)

37 DoJ gave out immunity recklessly, so the investigation was stymied.

Posted by: Jean at May 03, 2017 02:33 PM (zZb/S)

38 Graham (or one of the senators in possession of male genitalia) ought to haul Comey's fucking ass into a closed session, immediately. And that senator ought to declare, on the record, very loudly, that public servants in the U.S. government who choose to conceal classified information from elected representatives with adequate clearance to know (or access to an indoc for SAP programs) will have their internal organs removed with a chainsaw.

Posted by: General Zod at May 03, 2017 02:33 PM (Bdeb0)

39 37 DoJ gave out immunity recklessly, so the investigation was stymied.
Posted by: Jean at May 03, 2017 02:33 PM (zZb/S)

It wasn't reckless. It was calculated.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 03, 2017 02:33 PM (0mRoj)

40 Today's culture gripe: they're remaking Murder on the Orient Express, and practicing "diversity casting" (Penelope Cruz as a Swede; Leslie Odom Jr as a British major). -- which might make more sense if they were updating the story. But apparently, they're not.

W. T. FUCK??

Posted by: Shopgirl at May 03, 2017 02:34 PM (S6uWd)

41 DoJ gave out immunity recklessly, so the investigation was stymied.
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yep.

I think some of Hillary's staffer's dogs might have gotten immunity at one point.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 03, 2017 02:34 PM (C52a9)

42 So this farcical, lawless "FBI Director" refuses to enforce the law or do his job, vomits up some pathetic sympathy ploy that only confirms he's stupid, refuses to answer questions from the legitimate oversight and funding authority (Congress), and ...... what will happen?

Imagine a criminal GOP cabinet member committing historic, unprecedented crimes involving the most serious matters, the FBI and DOJ destroying their integrity in refusing to investigate and prosecute and answer to Congress, and the Dems sitting there, effectively silent.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 03, 2017 02:34 PM (iLoHX)

43 Comey couldn't lie straight in bed. Why Trump didn't 86 him early is mystifying.

Posted by: General Zod at May 03, 2017 02:34 PM (Bdeb0)

44 So do the NYPD still have that info? Or the NY branch of the FBI were asking wtf? ...

also...wtf happened to Rudy Giuliani the magical Fixer of all Things Judicial and Friend of Donald?
One thing that I've learned out of all this is that some people don't possess the "juice" I'd assumed they did.

Posted by: kallisto at May 03, 2017 02:34 PM (kD8Fh)

45
The story is written and evidence is moot.

Let it be written. Let it be moot.

Posted by: Fey Roe at May 03, 2017 02:34 PM (IqV8l)

46 It wasn't reckless. It was calculated.

Posted by: Insomniac
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also, yep.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 03, 2017 02:35 PM (C52a9)

47 am I the only deplorable that doesn't understand why a "Piss-party" would be considered enjoyable?

I would NOT be entertained.

Posted by: USMC8541 One Shot to Slay them All at May 03, 2017 02:35 PM (NmR1a)

48 which might make more sense if they were updating the story. But apparently, they're not.

"It worked for Hamilton!"
-Director and Producers

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 02:35 PM (39g3+)

49 Oh boy, can we have some more phoney-baloney congressional hearings?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 03, 2017 02:35 PM (ul9CR)

50 38 Graham (or one of the senators in possession of male genitalia) ought to haul Comey's fucking ass into a closed session, immediately. And that senator ought to declare, on the record, very loudly, that public servants in the U.S. government who choose to conceal classified information from elected representatives with adequate clearance to know (or access to an indoc for SAP programs) will have their internal organs removed with a chainsaw.
Posted by: General Zod at May 03, 2017 02:33 PM (Bdeb0)

============

Why does this feel so tame coming from Zod?

I feel like you're holding back. Are you tired or something?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 02:36 PM (BjrOM)

51 What's been ignored is that Hillary & Co used her Secret Server to run their own operation apart from the Government. e.g. Huma wore three hats and so was paid by State, the Foundation and Bill's for-profit simultaneously. She was the point for co-ordinating their linked activities.

Which is why 33,000 e-mails had to be deleted.

The author of Clinton Cash later showed that all of Hillary's e-mails from a several week period in and around Benghazi were deleted. Just a coincidence. Busy time for yoga and recipes.

Mishandling classified documents is itself a crime, but the focus on this lost the bigger picture. And that was intentional. Comey let Lynch put her DOJ loyalists in charge and they purposefully hamstrung the investigation from the start

Posted by: Zombie Dolly Madison at May 03, 2017 02:36 PM (SIY7D)

52 I suspect not firing Comey is because "just like Nixon he fired the guy investigating him!"

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2017 02:36 PM (r/0kC)

53 Shoot I was hoping this was going to be about that
dumb millennial "film critic" complaining about the lack of Asians on
the Oriental Express.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 02:32 PM

She's doubling down on that shit, now. Since she's been schooled on what the Orient Express was, she's now complaining that "in 2017, that white of a cast is still unacceptable". See, if you do a film set in Western Europe in the 30's, it must have the cast from Hamilton!, or you're a racist.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 03, 2017 02:36 PM (toi7g)

54 The DoJ and the FBI have no credibility left.

They can only start to restore it by arresting and prosecuting Hillary Clitnon.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 03, 2017 02:37 PM (XKTDu)

55 the US passed a "Global Magnitsky Act" imposing sanctions on Russia.

Is that like Chaplinsky ? or more like the Logan Act ?

Posted by: McCool at May 03, 2017 02:37 PM (sZaoP)

56 What's hilarious is the left yelling RUSSIA!!!!! whenever Hillary's treasonous and felonious server is brought up. Its like a safe word or something, to make the bad go away.

I'm still waiting on the NYPD releasing Wiener info to pressure the FBI to take action. They keep threatening it and keep doing nothing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 02:38 PM (39g3+)

57 Graham (or one of the senators in possession of male genitalia)

Graham has male genitalia.

In his mouth.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2017 02:38 PM (oVJmc)

58 There's a magnet in the sky.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 03, 2017 02:38 PM (IqV8l)

59 I'm sure Comey had to fear the NYPD would talk to Rudy, blowing the whole thing wide open and destroying the credibility of the FBI.

Posted by: Jean at May 03, 2017 02:39 PM (zZb/S)

60 Clinton, Obama, and Comey all in this up to their eyeballs. And all three of them belong in jail. And all of this was really part of Clinton's campaign effort. And she still lost. Then they tried to blame all their screw-ups on Trump contacting the Russians when they were in bed with them all along.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 03, 2017 02:39 PM (mpXpK)

61 I suspect not firing Comey is because "just like Nixon he fired the guy investigating him!"

Probably, but Comey should have been pressured to resign long ago. Seriously, what exactly does it take to fail hard enough to lose your job at the FBI?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 02:39 PM (39g3+)

62 56 DeBlasio would have their hides and their pensions.

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2017 02:39 PM (r/0kC)

63 The Left must be really hoping that Hillary be swallowed up by the earth just to make all this stop...

or looking to put some polonium in her thickened water

Posted by: McCool at May 03, 2017 02:39 PM (sZaoP)

64 What Anna Puma said.

Credibility, or perceived integrity, only comes from action, and results.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 03, 2017 02:39 PM (iLoHX)

65 "Global Magnitsky Act"

Were they in Circus Soliel?

Posted by: Roland THTG at May 03, 2017 02:40 PM (QM5S2)

66 This just in: Chelsea Clinton to receive the Golden Shower Award from the State Dept. for her selfless dedication to underage Russian prostitute immigrants with weak bladders.

Posted by: Fritz at May 03, 2017 02:40 PM (2Mnv1)

67 >>She's doubling down on that shit, now. Since she's
been schooled on what the Orient Express was, she's now complaining that
"in 2017, that white of a cast is still unacceptable". See, if you do a
film set in Western Europe in the 30's, it must have the cast from
Hamilton!, or you're a racist. Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 03, 2017 02:36 PM (toi7g)

I think I remember reading somewhere that a remake of "Malcolm X" with an all-white cast would be transgressive enough to thrill the edgy drama clique, but would probably end in riots and death.

I think I'd have to root for both sides in such a staged carnage. Which feels weird. And good.

Posted by: General Zod at May 03, 2017 02:40 PM (Bdeb0)

68 Clinton, Obama, and Comey all in this up to their eyeballs. And all three of them belong in jail.

I think it goes a lot deeper than that. Way deeper. McCain at least is involved, and many others. They pulled out all the stops and are getting away with it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 02:40 PM (39g3+)

69 >>Posted by: Zombie Dolly Madison at May 03, 2017 02:36 PM

Excellent summary!

And yet the left has taken to screaming/tweeting "But her emails!" in pretend imitation of those of us who dared stop the smartest, most capable woman in American history(tm) from attaining the presidency because of all the crimes her email server enabled her to commit.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 03, 2017 02:41 PM (NOIQH)

70 "Global Magnitsky Act"

Were they in Circus Soliel?

Posted by: Roland THTG at May 03, 2017 02:40 PM

I saw them open for "Pussy Hat Lice" in January.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 03, 2017 02:41 PM (toi7g)

71 Whew! That sure was a long piece, Ace. Awful glad I didn't read it.
This sort of thing is tailor-made to keep us sniffing around abandoned rat-holes while the larceny party continues merrily along. I mean, seriously: when was the last time you've heard of ANYONE above the level of Assistant Relief Butt Boy getting disciplined for ANY sort of wrongdoing in Washington? Frankly, I'm tired of watching "The Old And The Restless"; I think I'll switch channels and tune in "The Price Is Confiscatory".

Posted by: jbspry at May 03, 2017 02:41 PM (WujO7)

72 Senator Graham asking Comey about this.

Comey refused to answer.
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Where's the contempt charge. He can't "refuse to answer". He can take the 5th, but he can't simply refuse.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 03, 2017 02:41 PM (mpXpK)

73 I'm sure Comey had to fear the NYPD would talk to Rudy, blowing the whole thing wide open and destroying the credibility of the FBI.
Posted by: Jean at May 03, 2017 02:39 PM (zZb/S)
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I hate yo say it, but what credibility?

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 02:41 PM (sBOL1)

74 "Global Magnitsky Act"
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I thought it had something to do with reversing the earth's polarity.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 03, 2017 02:42 PM (C52a9)

75 They can only start to restore it by arresting and prosecuting Hillary Clitnon.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 03, 2017 02:37 PM (XKTDu)

Dream on. Never happen....

Posted by: Colin at May 03, 2017 02:42 PM (cxedE)

76 May 3, 2017
Still missing--Jefferson Beauregard Sessions.
DOB 12/24/1946
Hair-Gray. Height 5'6". Weight 140
Last scene touring southern border with ass sniffing entourage.

Posted by: Missing Persons Network at May 03, 2017 02:42 PM (ymRuQ)

77 40 Today's culture gripe: they're remaking Murder on the Orient Express, and practicing "diversity casting" (Penelope Cruz as a Swede; Leslie Odom Jr as a British major). -- which might make more sense if they were updating the story. But apparently, they're not.

W. T. FUCK??

Posted by: Shopgirl at May 03, 2017 02:34 PM (S6uWd)
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Take a gander at what they're doing with the latest movie version of the classic book "A Wrinkle in Time." I got a migraine from rolling my eyes too much.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at May 03, 2017 02:42 PM (hYNPr)

78 There's a magnet in the sky.

And the wheel in the sky keeps on turning.

Posted by: Steve Perry at May 03, 2017 02:43 PM (f4GSC)

79 "also...wtf happened to Rudy Giuliani the magical Fixer of all Things Judicial and Friend of Donald?"

Rudy was hoist on his own petard.

At exactly the moment that the lawfare left were spinning up their initial court challenges to Trump's v. 1.0 immigration restriction plan, based specifically on the claim that the plan implemented invidious bias against Muslims, Rudy went on teevee for an interview.

Where he said chirpily that The Donald had asked him how best to set up a plan that excluded potentially troublemaking Muslims, and that he, Rudy, had undertaken to do just that.

The lawfare left were delighted by this admission against interest, and instantly pounced all over it, and I think the quotes in question from Giuliani actually ended up in some of their court filings.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 03, 2017 02:43 PM (qJjMA)

80 How does Comey get away with refusing to answer those questions? Is he alleging that the answers are classified? I didn't get that sense from what I saw at the link.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 02:28 PM (sBOL1)

He has tap danced and obfuscated so much it's hard to determine what his latest tissue of excuses may be. However, with that said, one of his main blatherings seems to be that we can't do anything to Hillary about her treason, RICO violations, etc is because the folks in charge of pushing the FBI/Justice to do their damn jobs don't have clearances high enough to see what was on her server housed in her bathroom where the maid printed stuff for her. Yeah, wrap your head around that.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is now luxuriating in vast pools of winning! at May 03, 2017 02:43 PM (kXoT0)

81 Where's the contempt charge. He can't "refuse to answer". He can take the 5th, but he can't simply refuse.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 03, 2017 02:41 PM (mpXpK)

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He refused to answer in an open committee setting.

Posted by: Uber Lyft Driver at May 03, 2017 02:44 PM (TYhvf)

82 Is there a summary of this post? I just can't keep up with what the hell is going on anymore........

Posted by: lindarose at May 03, 2017 02:44 PM (kufk0)

83 Trump won and just keeps on keeping on.

Posted by: KentAllard at May 03, 2017 02:44 PM (TQw9b)

84 Back in the US, back in the US, back in the USSR!

Well that Putin guy really knocks me out!
Leaves the West behind.
And that Comey guy makes me sing and shout!
And Gazprom's always on my my my my my my my my my mind!

Posted by: Publius Redux at May 03, 2017 02:44 PM (Fb9aZ)

85 >>>She's doubling down on that shit, now. Since she's been schooled on what the Orient Express was, she's now complaining that "in 2017, that white of a cast is still unacceptable". See, if you do a film set in Western Europe in the 30's, it must have the cast from Hamilton!, or you're a racist.

The Sean Connery role seems to have been "blackwashed" with a black actor playing The Soldier.

How many asians can you put on a 1930s train which runs nowhere near Asia?

And, PS, I don't want to SPOIL anything, but there are very important reasons the cast must be very similar to how Christie described it.

This is not a collection of randos in the Calais Coach.

Posted by: ace at May 03, 2017 02:45 PM (8rNrN)

86 >>I'm still waiting on the NYPD releasing Wiener info to pressure the FBI
to take action. They keep threatening it and keep doing nothing.

I wish they would. I seem to recall that part of what was so sick about it was that Hillary and Huma knew for months that Anthony had been sexting and skyping with an underage girl, who was also at one point suicidal. They were OK with ignoring/hiding that Weiner was sexually exploiting a teen (with potentially terrible consequences) *for the sake of avoiding a campaign scandal*.

Yay, Hillary is such an awesome woman and protector of the children...not.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 03, 2017 02:45 PM (NOIQH)

87 Doesn't Congress have some kind of financial leverage over DOJ and the FBI? I dunno, something like total, unchallengeable control over every dime they spend?

Someone oughta commission a study group or blue ribbon panel or something to see if this financial leverage could be used, I don't know, to compel the FBI to do exactly what they are fucking supposed to do.

Oh, wait. The Senate Dems can threaten to shut down the govt. That obviously negates any actual leverage Congress has. Forgot for a second how it works.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 03, 2017 02:45 PM (iLoHX)

88 It helps to remember that NONE of the Congressmen or Senators you see asking Comey questions are 1) interested in justice 2) interested in getting the whole story 3) interested in helping the Trump Administration prosecute anybody. In fact they will actively oppose him.

They are a self-appointed kangaroo court as much as any of these university Title IX travesties.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 03, 2017 02:46 PM (C52a9)

89 >>And, PS, I don't want to SPOIL anything, but there are very important
reasons the cast must be very similar to how Christie described it.

Oh, pish posh! It is MUCH more important that the potential audience see themselves in a film than the story making sense.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 03, 2017 02:46 PM (NOIQH)

90 Takes a special brand of almost childish evil to respond to a political sanction with a sudden ban on adoption. Think that thru. Such a ban would have little to no impact on, or relevance to, the sanction, so what the hell? Was there a certain senator closing on an adoption that Russian agents were aware of? No doubt such little games are played all the time but with something so publicized and the torture this would impose on families that were on the verge of receiving a child...Putin is one sinister dude.

Posted by: MSTisdale at May 03, 2017 02:46 PM (g9d8D)

91 They will make Poirot a fag....wait...

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2017 02:46 PM (r/0kC)

92 However, with that said, one of his main blatherings seems to be that we can't do anything to Hillary about her treason, RICO violations, etc is because the folks in charge of pushing the FBI/Justice to do their damn jobs don't have clearances high enough to see what was on her server housed in her bathroom where the maid printed stuff for her. Yeah, wrap your head around that.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is now luxuriating in vast pools of winning! at May 03, 2017 02:43 PM (kXoT0)
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Seriously? Wow, I haven't seen that.

Well, he should be smart enough to know that someone with a TS clearance could be read in to that stuff.

Which clearance i doubt the maid has, of course.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 02:47 PM (sBOL1)

93 I think Comey stating that having the Attorney General meet with the wife of their target for investigation in a secret meeting on the tarmac making their work basically impossible to continue was incredibly significant, and mostly ignored.

THousands of Hillary's emails on Wiener's phone containing classified documents is thousands of counts of felonies, intent or not. They have not just all the evidence they need, they have overwhelming proof. And she'll never see a day of prison.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 02:47 PM (39g3+)

94 Trump needs to call Comey into his office, and ask him for his resignation.

"I want your resignation on my desk tomorrow morning. If you rat out Hillary, or Obama, or Huma, or Jarrett, I'll do my best to keep your ass out of jail, or pardon you if I cannot. If you force me to fire you for cause, then Sessions will have a green light to investigate you."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2017 02:47 PM (0deF2)

95 Meanwhile, NK missiles are wandering around the sky, looking for a place to bomb. (or just land, fat boy playing with his joy stick again)

Posted by: Colin at May 03, 2017 02:47 PM (cxedE)

96 *yawns*

Wake me up when someone in DC actually starts prosecuting these people.

Posted by: Soona at May 03, 2017 02:47 PM (sGd9N)

97 Clinton, Obama, and Comey all in this up to their eyeballs. And all three of them belong in jail. And all of this was really part of Clinton's campaign effort. And she still lost. Then they tried to blame all their screw-ups on Trump contacting the Russians when they were in bed with them all along.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 03, 2017 02:39 PM (mpXpK)

You forgot Sweet LouRetta* (intentional misspelling) and BJ.

*Get Back from the Beatles

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is now luxuriating in vast pools of winning! at May 03, 2017 02:48 PM (kXoT0)

98 Take a gander at what they're doing with the latest
movie version of the classic book "A Wrinkle in Time." I got a migraine
from rolling my eyes too much.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at May 03, 2017 02:42 PM

O_o

Is is as bad, or worse, than what they did to "The Dark is Rising"?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 03, 2017 02:48 PM (p+Wdc)

99 Rush Shah? Never heard of him

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at May 03, 2017 02:48 PM (DpOmP)

100 Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 03, 2017 02:33 PM (KUaJL)

Russia wanted a Hillary Clinton presidency because she was easily bribable. Russia worked with the Democrats to create a fake dossier showing Trump being icky to the bed that Tsar Obama slept in.

Russia bungled the operation - it was so bad no one outside the Beltway Swamp believed the contents of the dossier. Hillary was as tone-deaf as usual and her henchfiends like Podesta are incompetent at *normal life skills for 2016*.

Trump got elected and the Democrats, using their usual playbook projected - accusing the GOP candidate of being exactly what the Democrat candidate was - a stooge for Putin.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Hosts the Are We There Yet? Political Party at May 03, 2017 02:48 PM (hLRSq)

101 Minorities in Orient Express? What's the point?

They can't be the murder victim (HATE CRIME!!!) and they can't be the murderer (RAAAACISSS!). So they just fill space in front of the scenery.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2017 02:48 PM (oVJmc)

102 Mhm, should I eat the lunch I brought to work today or fight my way through the crowd for a Costco dog?

Nothing is going to happen with any of this. Another round of failure theater and I have quit playing. Lunch beckons and I don't want to spoil it with the do nothings in DC.

Posted by: Beartooth at May 03, 2017 02:48 PM (/8EBC)

103 And, PS, I don't want to SPOIL anything, but there are very important reasons the cast must be very similar to how Christie described it.

Yeah I'm not a huge fan of her books, but her plotting was meticulous and brilliant. You cannot mess with it. She was so intricate and careful, especially in this particular film, its a serious mistake to touch any of the elements.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 02:48 PM (39g3+)

104 Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 03, 2017 02:46 PM (C52a9)

Trey Gowdy?

Tom Cotton?

(don't know if Cotton is on the committee, however fairly certain he would like to see some convictions.)

Posted by: kallisto at May 03, 2017 02:48 PM (kD8Fh)

105 Forgot for a second how it works.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 03, 2017 02:45 PM (iLoHX)

Well just this one time but don't let it happen again

Posted by: MAC-SOG at May 03, 2017 02:49 PM (QPdNE)

106 90. The adoption ban had nothing to do with anything other than a number of publicized cases of pedophile couples adopting and abusing Russian orphans. Russia asks only that they be placed with heterosexual couples. Since Barry wouldn't go along with that, no more adoptions. Barry's fault, not Putin's.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 03, 2017 02:50 PM (TwwWO)

107 85 The Sean Connery role seems to have been "blackwashed" with a black actor playing The Soldier.

How many asians can you put on a 1930s train which runs nowhere near Asia?

And, PS, I don't want to SPOIL anything, but there are very important reasons the cast must be very similar to how Christie described it.

This is not a collection of randos in the Calais Coach.
Posted by: ace at May 03, 2017 02:45 PM (8rNrN)

============

Are you implying that there's a connection between them all?

Gasp!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 02:50 PM (BjrOM)

108 No doubt such little games are played all the time but with something so publicized and the torture this would impose on families that were on the verge of receiving a child...Putin is one sinister dude.
Posted by: MSTisdale at May 03, 2017 02:46 PM (g9d8D)

Well, consider the situation in Russian adoption before the ban. Russia would not allow any child under the age of two to be adopted. They put these kids in orphanages supposedly to try to get them adopted locally, which nearly never happened. They fed them once a day, changed their diapers once a day, and mostly neglected them. Then when they finally allowed folks to adopt, the kids were permanently scarred psychologically if not physically, and an awful lot of them never recovered. So many failed adoptions because the kids just couldn't bond. So many horrible stories of adopted kids abusing natural children, etc. It's not like the Russians gave a damn one way or another. They just liked all that hard cash that changed hands, mostly with a wink and a nod.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 03, 2017 02:50 PM (NXsWM)

109 How is it that the new, diverse casting for The Orient Express is not considered "cultural appropriation."?

Quick, someone ask Scarlet Johanssen how she feels about this double-standard.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 03, 2017 02:51 PM (NOIQH)

110 Minorities in Orient Express? What's the point?

They can't be the murder victim (HATE CRIME!!!) and they can't be the murderer (RAAAACISSS!). So they just fill space in front of the scenery.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2017 02:48 PM (oVJmc)

They had someone from China in charge of supplies, but there was an unfortunate misunderstanding.

Posted by: gewa76 at May 03, 2017 02:51 PM (f4GSC)

111 Was surprised and pleased the other day, smoking cigars with my ex-SEAL buddy, to hear him say he no longer goes to movies (he was a big consumer of movies, including these stupid comic-book action hero cartoons for adults). He said it was because he was angry about the insane idiocy of Hollywood and most of its denizens about public policy matters. Maybe ESPN is the start of a trend, and not an outlier.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 03, 2017 02:51 PM (iLoHX)

112 >>The Sean Connery role seems to have been "blackwashed" with a black actor playing The Soldier.

Was there shucking? Jiving?

Posted by: General Zod at May 03, 2017 02:51 PM (Bdeb0)

113 104 Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 03, 2017 02:46 PM (C52a9)

Trey Gowdy?

Tom Cotton?

(don't know if Cotton is on the committee, however fairly certain he would like to see some convictions.)
Posted by: kallisto at May 03, 2017 02:48 PM (kD8Fh)

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Gowdy's in the House.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 02:51 PM (BjrOM)

114 Questions not asked:

Mr. Comey, what "golden missing emails" if found in Anthony Weiner's server would have "changed the case"?

That is, what, in your opinion, was not already satisfied as grounds for prosecution, given the fact it was already known that classified information was intentionally placed on his server, that came from the Secretary of State?

Were you looking for a "golden email" that the Secretary of State sent it personally, which would justify her prosecution? But if that is the case, why didn't you recommend prosecution of the Secretary's Aide, Ms. Abedein, who clearly placed this materially intentionally on an unsecure server?

Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 03, 2017 02:51 PM (QtQaN)

115 The basic plot of the book is that the woman that is killed really had it coming from every single one of the other passengers, she was horrendous. Poirot is upset not because she faced justice, but because it happened outside of the law and the justice system (although in his last story... well don't want to spoil anything else).

What do you want to bet that Orient Express has a stand in Trump type victim woman (if its even a woman)?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 02:52 PM (39g3+)

116 Spicer Presser:

Press is in a tizzy because they think the wall Trump got funding for in this budget looks more like a "fence" than a "wall".

Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, they're arguing about "barrier" semantics.

Posted by: WisRich at May 03, 2017 02:52 PM (hdpay)

117 (don't know if Cotton is on the committee, however fairly certain he would like to see some convictions.)

Posted by: kallisto
===

Color me unconvinced.

2010-2016

Fully. Funded.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 03, 2017 02:52 PM (C52a9)

118 "Yeah I'm not a huge fan of her books, but her plotting was meticulous and brilliant. You cannot mess with it."

If there's anything that modern Hollyweird is justly famed for, it's their collective dedication to meticulous plotting.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 03, 2017 02:52 PM (qJjMA)

119 Huge Breaking News! (Must Credit Sharkman)

In an unexpected development, Mr. Rinat Akhmetshin was heard to state: "Fuck this Russia-America political shit, I'm going big time!"

Mr. Akhmetshin was later seen in full Pharaoh regalia walking down the middle of a Moscow street, along with a throng of followers who were chanting "All Hail Pharaoh Akhmet II, Leader of Alexandria and All the Lands of the Nile!"

Posted by: Sharkman at May 03, 2017 02:52 PM (zKIA2)

120 Hehe.

"as the law demands"

Another of your delightful bourgeois concepts.

Posted by: V. I. Lenin, HR at May 03, 2017 02:52 PM (VFhMt)

121 No big deal. Hillary's crimes are non-violent.

Posted by: Sanctuary City at May 03, 2017 02:53 PM (jjz86)

122 >>Yeah I'm not a huge fan of her books, but her plotting was meticulous
and brilliant. You cannot mess with it. She was so intricate and
careful, especially in this particular film, its a serious mistake to
touch any of the elements.

"There was a book?"
--- Millennial Hollywood Producer who graduated with honors from Harvard

Posted by: Lizzy at May 03, 2017 02:53 PM (NOIQH)

123 dindu nuffin

Posted by: James Homey at May 03, 2017 02:53 PM (vtcmf)

124 No big deal. Hillary's crimes are non-violent.
Posted by: Sanctuary City at May 03, 2017 02:53 PM (jjz86)

Wanna bet?

Posted by: Vince Foster at May 03, 2017 02:53 PM (f4GSC)

125 How is it that the new, diverse casting for The Orient Express is not considered "cultural appropriation."?

"Because you cannot appropriate white culture, only improve it by adding color, you racist homophobic misogynist islomophobic hater!"
-Leftist Twit

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 02:53 PM (39g3+)

126 When this story ends up with some hot chick like Anna Chapman involved, wake me up.

Posted by: Roy at May 03, 2017 02:54 PM (7n4KQ)

127 >>>The basic plot of the book is that the woman that is killed really had it coming from every single one of the other passengers, she was horrendous. Poirot is upset not because she faced justice, but because it happened outside of the law and the justice system (although in his last story... well don't want to spoil anything else).

um, you seem to be confusing plot elements of Murder in the Holy Land (sometimes called Murder in the Levant) and please watch out for spoilers.

apparently there really are people who aren't familiar with one of the two most famous solutions in all of detective literature (the other being the Murder of Roger Aykroyd).

Posted by: ace at May 03, 2017 02:54 PM (8rNrN)

128 Sooooo, will someone de-confuse me so I don't have to read the content:

The Russians are behind the Fake News that the Russians "hacked" the election???

Posted by: zombie at May 03, 2017 02:54 PM (DQ4Fv)

129 Press is in a tizzy because they think the wall Trump got funding for in this budget looks more like a "fence" than a "wall".
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He got 16 foot ( I think) steel fence in some areas in the CR and also dams, concrete walls over waterways.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 03, 2017 02:54 PM (C52a9)

130 I think I remember reading somewhere that a remake of "Malcolm X" with an all-white cast

I guess we know who'd play the lead.

coughTALCUM Xcough

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 03, 2017 02:54 PM (ul9CR)

131 Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, they're arguing about "barrier" semantics.

Posted by: WisRich at May 03, 2017 02:52 PM (hdpay)

Have you visited any of our morning threads? They are a hoot, let me tell you!

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Hosts the Are We There Yet? Political Party at May 03, 2017 02:55 PM (hLRSq)

132
There's a magnet in the sky.

remember this song about You being a MAGNET and Her being STEEL?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7DAHi_Cks8

ooo aoooo oooooh

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 03, 2017 02:55 PM (Hour2)

133 I have said all along that this was going to backfire on the democrats.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 03, 2017 02:55 PM (le7jz)

134 125 How is it that the new, diverse casting for The Orient Express is not considered "cultural appropriation."?

"Because you cannot appropriate white culture, only improve it by adding color, you racist homophobic misogynist islomophobic hater!"
-Leftist Twit

=============

"You might be my soul mate. Do you want to get out of here and do weird things to each other?"
-Very smart college student who's waiting for her final exam grades, knowing that he constant writing of #WhitePrivilege all over her blue books ensure her straight A's

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 02:56 PM (BjrOM)

135 um, you seem to be confusing plot elements of Murder in the Holy Land

they all had motives in that one, but they weren't all involved. As opposed to this story...

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 02:56 PM (39g3+)

136 I am tired of these mutherfuckin' snakes on this mutherfuckin' train!

Posted by: Brilliant New Dialogue at May 03, 2017 02:56 PM (oVJmc)

137 Gowdy's in the House.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 02:51 PM (BjrOM)

no waiii...!!

I was replying to this post of Mort's:

"88 It helps to remember that NONE of the Congressmen or Senators you see asking Comey questions "

Posted by: kallisto at May 03, 2017 02:56 PM (kD8Fh)

138 I WANT A GOLDEN E-MAIL AND I WANT IT NOW!

Posted by: Veruca Salt at May 03, 2017 02:56 PM (ul9CR)

139 It's Russians within Russians!!

So basically a Matryoshka doll.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at May 03, 2017 02:57 PM (oZ6kz)

140 Have you visited any of our morning threads? They are a hoot, let me tell you!
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Hosts the Are We There Yet? Political Party at May 03, 2017 02:55 PM (hLRSq)

I must of missed them.

Posted by: WisRich at May 03, 2017 02:57 PM (hdpay)

141 I have said all along that this was going to backfire on the democrats.

===

Democrats who previously screamed for "independent investigator" start screaming "SHUT IT DOWN, SHUT IT ALL DOWN" in 5-4-3...

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 03, 2017 02:57 PM (C52a9)

142 Sooooo, will someone de-confuse me so I don't have to read the content:

The Russians are behind the Fake News that the Russians "hacked" the election???
Posted by: zombie

It's babushkas inside of babushkas inside of babushkas!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2017 02:57 PM (Njtx4)

143 Comey is as much as telling us that he wanted the information out so that voters could make the decision. This seems to be the go-to DC cop-out anymore--give voters the data and take a pass on doing your job.

Posted by: spongeworthy at May 03, 2017 02:57 PM (mrfTe)

144 >>>they all had motives in that one, but they weren't all involved. As opposed to this story...

the victim in MitHL was a woman. In MotOE, it's a guy. Jack Warden in the movie I think.

Posted by: ace at May 03, 2017 02:57 PM (8rNrN)

145 The Russians are like the Persians of antiquity. The point of elaborate, convoluted plots submerged beneath layers upon layers of complexity is solely to obfuscate and confuse.

Having following the logic, identifying the players or tracing the sequence of events? That's wholly by design. If this whole Russian thing seems hopelessly confusing it's because it was purposely made to be.

Posted by: troyriser at May 03, 2017 02:57 PM (Fw5cQ)

146 137 Gowdy's in the House.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 02:51 PM (BjrOM)

no waiii...!!

I was replying to this post of Mort's:

"88 It helps to remember that NONE of the Congressmen or Senators you see asking Comey questions "

Posted by: kallisto at May 03, 2017 02:56 PM (kD8Fh)

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Sorry.

I was all, "Maybe I should see what's being referenced," but then I was all, "Nah...that won't come to bite me."

It bit me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 02:57 PM (BjrOM)

147 Posted by: ace at May 03, 2017 02:54 PM (8rNrN)

The only thing I remember about the Murder on the Orient Express are the hairdos and costumes.

It's a chick thing.

Posted by: kallisto at May 03, 2017 02:58 PM (kD8Fh)

148 109 How is it that the new, diverse casting for The Orient Express is not considered "cultural appropriation."?

Quick, someone ask Scarlet Johanssen how she feels about this double-standard.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 03, 2017 02:51 PM (NOIQH)

Is there a person of fluid gender aboard The Orient Express?

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 03, 2017 02:58 PM (hJrjt)

149 "I WANT A GOLDEN E-MAIL AND I WANT IT NOW!

Posted by: Veruca Salt at May 03, 2017 02:56 PM (ul9CR) "

Oh I've got a golden pardon.

I've got a golden twinkle in my eye....

Posted by: Hillary Bucket running home with glee at May 03, 2017 02:58 PM (oZ6kz)

150 'Having trouble', sorry.

Posted by: troyriser at May 03, 2017 02:58 PM (Fw5cQ)

151 NorK attack of the US?
[ ] Suitcase nuke
[ ] Air burst nuke
[ ] EMP
[ ] Chem/Bio

Posted by: Planning For The Inevitable at May 03, 2017 02:58 PM (ymRuQ)

152 >>Press is in a tizzy because they think the wall Trump got funding for in this budget looks more like a "fence" than a "wall".

Anything to portray Trump as lying about (i.e. not living up to) building a wall - Trump failed! - and to make Spicer's job Hell.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 03, 2017 02:58 PM (NOIQH)

153 >>coughTALCUM Xcough Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 03, 2017 02:54 PM (ul9CR)

Almost. Semi-professional black Rachel Dolezal.

A white woman who pretends to be a black woman pretending to be a white woman pretending to be a black man who hates white women.

Posted by: General Zod at May 03, 2017 02:59 PM (Bdeb0)

154 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 02:57 PM (BjrOM)

no worries. I'm in a good mood from reading ace's twatter timeline.

Posted by: kallisto at May 03, 2017 02:59 PM (kD8Fh)

155 After the constant stream of nothing-burgers coming off the line from Trey Dowdy's and Jason Chafe-itz's poodle and pony shows during the odumbo years, do people still get excited when they hear the words "congressional investigation"? These are mere footnotes in future history books that conclude with "nothing confirmed" or "concluded with nothing more." Sucka'z

Posted by: MSTisdale at May 03, 2017 02:59 PM (g9d8D)

156 What about The Occidental Express, a movie about Barack's undergrad years doing blow and blowing dudes?

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at May 03, 2017 02:59 PM (oZ6kz)

157
It bit me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

====

"Okay which one of you meatheads bit TheJamesMadison".

Filed under

"Things I Never Thought That I Would Type"

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 03, 2017 02:59 PM (C52a9)

158 154 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 02:57 PM (BjrOM)

no worries. I'm in a good mood from reading ace's twatter timeline.
Posted by: kallisto at May 03, 2017 02:59 PM (kD8Fh)

=============

He keeps going back to that whore?

Doesn't he know that we're the only ones that really love him?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:00 PM (BjrOM)

159 >>151
NorK attack of the US?
[ ] Suitcase nuke
[ ] Air burst nuke
[ ] EMP
[ ] Chem/Bio Posted by: Planning For The Inevitable at May 03, 2017 02:58 PM (ymRuQ)

[x] Ronery marionette nuke

Posted by: General Zod at May 03, 2017 03:00 PM (Bdeb0)

160 Anything to portray Trump as lying about (i.e. not living up to) building a wall - Trump failed! - and to make Spicer's job Hell.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 03, 2017 02:58 PM (NOIQH)

This is pretty much everything our betters post to Facebook. Nothingburgers that mistake the point on purpose to try to make Trump look bad. All it really does is make them look petty and a little stupid.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 03, 2017 03:00 PM (NXsWM)

161 There's an old saying in law that smoke helps the defense. It's the prosecution's job to prove something specific. If the defendant can turn it into a big puddle of mush, the finder of fact throws up its collective hands and sez: "Can't tell anything clear, can't convict."

So despite multiple smoking guns covered with the prints of Her Thighness I'm afraid it will go this way in the court of public opinion with Hillary. By the time the truth comes out about "the Russkies" it will be so convoluted that only a handful of national security operatives will follow the thread, or care.

And then there's always "Old News!"

Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 03, 2017 03:00 PM (QtQaN)

162
I'm an agent, you're an agent!
He's an agent, she's an agent!
Shouldn't you be a Rooskie agent, too?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 03, 2017 03:01 PM (pNxlR)

163
I mentioned the other day that the new anti-Christian tv serial deviated from the book, The Handmaids Tail, or whatever its called, to add blacks to the cast because the producers didn't feel it was right to exclude blacks from the production.

You see, it's not proper to crap on white Christian men without including black people to help you do it.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 03, 2017 03:01 PM (Hour2)

164 Murder in the Holy Land, by the way, does not have a good solution ( i can barely remember it; it's convoluted as hell, with one person incorrectly THINKING he killed the victim, and another person who intervened to do the job properly), but it does a good job of presenting this overberaring, evil matron of a family who just squashes the life out of her children and anyone stupid enough to marry into the family.

Good victim, good depiction of a kind of manipulative social evil, crap mystery.

Posted by: ace at May 03, 2017 03:01 PM (8rNrN)

165 Good news. I've cancelled my cable contract with Comcast. The air seem fresher to breathe in for some reason.

Posted by: dantesed at May 03, 2017 03:01 PM (88xKn)

166 Speaking of fluid gender...my kids were asking me what it meant. I told them that it meant the person claiming it was mentally ill. It was the nicest way for me to put it since they are all 10 and under.

Posted by: lindarose at May 03, 2017 03:02 PM (kufk0)

167 We're so good, we even hack ourselves!!1!

Posted by: 1337 Rvssi@n |-|@><0rz at May 03, 2017 03:02 PM (rUIbB)

168 Doesn't he know that we're the only ones that really love him?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:00 PM (BjrOM)

well, yes and no...

Chris Cuomo loves him some ace too, that twitter whore told him so.

Posted by: kallisto at May 03, 2017 03:02 PM (kD8Fh)

169
but seriously, they need to make pron version of the Handmaiden's Tale and title it, of course, The Handmaiden's Tail

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 03, 2017 03:02 PM (Hour2)

170 I have a simple rule now...

Whenever someone accuses me, or someone else, of doing something outlandish...

I take a long hard look, at the ACCUSER.... because I've sadly found that liars always accuse others of telling lies... cheaters are the first to accuse others of cheating...

Thus... Dems accuse Trump of nefarious associations with Russia? Look hard at those doing the accusing...

Posted by: Don Q. at May 03, 2017 03:02 PM (NgKpN)

171 MitHL should be called "I Can't Wait Until This Old Fat Cunt Gets Offed."

Posted by: ace at May 03, 2017 03:02 PM (8rNrN)

172 Love the headline. It reeks of class.

Posted by: Pee Diddly at May 03, 2017 03:02 PM (cqZPN)

173 Is anyone in Washington not a Russian agent?

Posted by: Ace Tomato Company at May 03, 2017 03:03 PM (rUIbB)

174 >>>>Comey is like a dog chasing squirrels. He's clearly not up to doing a comprehensible job.
.
.
.Clearly you have not witnessed our younger dog. She has graduated from squirrels to catching birds. She has a body count of 20 currently and I have not checked the yard yet this week.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 03, 2017 03:03 PM (le7jz)

175 I live in their heads, rent free I might add.

Posted by: Peter Petrovich Konovnitsyn at May 03, 2017 03:03 PM (Ot7+c)

176 Posted by: ace at May 03, 2017 03:02 PM (8rNrN)

I thought that was the title of the new Scankles' biopic?

Posted by: kallisto at May 03, 2017 03:04 PM (kD8Fh)

177 Posted by: dantesed at May 03, 2017 03:01 PM (88xKn)

Hey, welcome to the Kable Kutter's Klub!

Wait till you don't get the first bill that you don't get - the feeling gets even better!

Posted by: Veruca Salt at May 03, 2017 03:04 PM (ul9CR)

178 This PROVES that the Russians were INTERFERING in our elections!

Posted by: HRC (D-Hell) at May 03, 2017 03:04 PM (QtQaN)

179
We must break you!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 03, 2017 03:04 PM (pNxlR)

180 Minorities in Orient Express? What's the point?

They can't be the murder victim (HATE CRIME!!!) and they can't be the murderer (RAAAACISSS!). So they just fill space in front of the scenery.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2017 02:48 PM (oVJmc)

It will be like an episode of Law and Order. Everyone will suspect the poor innocent minority and then at the last second they'll discover it was the rich, white Christian guy because racist, homophobe, sexist and Islamaphobe

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 03, 2017 03:04 PM (493sH)

181

It's babushkas inside of babushkas inside of babushkas!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2017 02:57 PM (Njtx4)

It's Natashas on top of Annas on top of Sonjas....

BRB

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Hosts the Are We There Yet? Political Party at May 03, 2017 03:04 PM (hLRSq)

182 165 Good news. I've cancelled my cable contract with Comcast. The air seem fresher to breathe in for some reason.
Posted by: dantesed at May 03, 2017 03:01 PM (88xKn)

I'm about to cancel Netflix...

Every time I open it I see a show THEY created, called "Dear White People"....

I'm tired of the double standard racist bullshit.

Posted by: Don Q. at May 03, 2017 03:05 PM (NgKpN)

183 Dem insiders are basically children of the old US Stalinist dems ... only natural they maintain ties. (e.g. Ted Kennedy getting election help from Russkies) Who better to produce a fake Russia-based dossier for an election than Russia connected dem operatives? SOP.

Reset Hillary would have been more flexible after the election ... "thanks for the dossier help Vlad, hope you enjoy your uranium and US tech transfer via Skolkovo. pleasure doing business with you ...

Posted by: illiniwek at May 03, 2017 03:05 PM (TmCOq)

184 Trump yesterday tweeted that Comey "was the best thing that ever happened to Hillary Clinton in that he gave her a pass for many bad deeds!"

Hmmmm.

Leaving aside the almost quaint, euphemistic phrasing ("bad deeds"), isn't this "new ground" in terms of Trump's public stance on Comey's malfeasance?

The DOJ's and FBI's malfeasance - maybe even criminal misbehavior - in refusing to enforce the Espionage Act on Clinton and Co. is among the more important cancers of lawlessness consuming the civil order. But it still seems most of the Beltway just wants to put a bandaid on the cancer and "move on".

Posted by: rhomboid at May 03, 2017 03:05 PM (iLoHX)

185 So despite multiple smoking guns covered with the prints of Her Thighness I'm afraid it will go this way in the court of public opinion with Hillary. By the time the truth comes out about "the Russkies" it will be so convoluted that only a handful of national security operatives will follow the thread, or care.

And then there's always "Old News!"
Posted by: xnycpeasant

That's why you nail her on the bathroom server & emails.

Slam dunk. No intent required.
Do not pass go. Go directly to jail.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2017 03:05 PM (Njtx4)

186

All you need to know about Comey is that he was appointed by obama to lead obama's rogue FBI.

Either this guy Comey is an oblivious idiot, or he's complicit. There's no third conclusion. Either way, he must go.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 03, 2017 03:06 PM (Hour2)

187
Good news. I've cancelled my cable contract with Comcast....

Posted by: dantesed

* * * *

You have NO idea how your life is gonna improve as a result of this. Food tastes better, the air seems fresher. You'll have more energy and self confidence than you ever dreamed of.

Posted by: MSTisdale at May 03, 2017 03:06 PM (g9d8D)

188 I wouldn't walk across the street to piss on Sen. Grassley if he was naked in bed with several of my dearest friends already pissing all over him and making a really cool video of it.

I just wouldn't.

Posted by: Dang at May 03, 2017 03:06 PM (8b+oT)

189 >>>Spicer Presser:

Press is in a tizzy because they think the wall Trump got funding for in this budget looks more like a "fence" than a "wall".

Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, they're arguing about "barrier" semantics.
.
.
.But I was told by the msm and #nevertrumpers there was specific language in the bill that prevented Trump from spending a single penny on any wall construction.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 03, 2017 03:06 PM (le7jz)

190 One of the documents described "Ron Dellums, former Republican Congressman" who acted as a Lobbyist for the Russian company.
WRONG.

Dellums is from Oakland California and was most certainly a Marxist/Democrat Congress critter.

Posted by: dc at May 03, 2017 03:06 PM (oY/R7)

191 You have NO idea how your life is gonna improve as a result of this. Food tastes better, the air seems fresher. You'll have more energy and self confidence than you ever dreamed of.

Plus more girth and extra stamina!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 03, 2017 03:06 PM (ul9CR)

192 apparently there really are people who aren't familiar with one of the two most famous solutions in all of detective literature (the other being the Murder of Roger Aykroyd).
Posted by: ace

One of my favorite detective murder solutions is in G.K. Chesterton's "Arrow of Heaven," in which a man locked in a sealed room at the top of a high stone tower is apparently shot dead by an arrow fired from a passing biplane through an extremely narrow slit in the stonework -- a seemingly impossible feat. Yet the man was found dead locked in the locked room, pierced by an arrow, and the plane was seen by many witnesses flying past with someone shooting an arrow from it at the tower, so the solution seemed inescapable.

But the surprise solution -- which has subsequently been copied by countless other authors and screenwriters -- was that the person who first rushed into the room to "discover the body" in fact had concealed an arrow in his clothes and stabbed the (still living) victim in the neck with it moments before everyone else rushed into the room behind him. When the killer immediately declared, "The victim has been shot with an arrow coming in through that window! I saw it with my own two eyes!" it was so believable that no one questioned from whence the arrow came.

What made this, the original of this theme, better that almost all the copycats is that that arrows were designed to be fired and fly through the air, and it is completely counter-intuitive to think of them as a stabbing weapon. Almost all the subsequent copycat plots involved the "discoverer" shooting the victim and claiming the shot came from outside, which removes half the cleverness.

Posted by: zombie at May 03, 2017 03:07 PM (DQ4Fv)

193 Russia retalliated by forbidding US adoptions of Russian orphans.

"You see what you get when you mess with the orphans!"
- The Warriors

Posted by: wooga at May 03, 2017 03:07 PM (k/szL)

194
Time for someone to trot out the photo from the ONT of several weeks back showing the comely young Russian mail order ~~grill~~ lass holding the wicked awesome axe and a white rose?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 03, 2017 03:07 PM (pNxlR)

195 the victim in MitHL was a woman. In MotOE, it's a guy. Jack Warden in the movie I think.

Hm I was thinking it was Ingrid Bergman, but its been a long time. Either way, expect it to be a real estate tycoon with bad hair.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 03:07 PM (39g3+)

196 Is this why the FAB in Pantsuit has been trotted out to repeat the claims that her loss was due to Comey and "Russian WikiLeaks?"

Seems like she's trying to deflect from this Comey news and her Flying Monkeys have certainly picked up on the meme.

Posted by: kallisto at May 03, 2017 03:07 PM (kD8Fh)

197 We TOLD you they were hacking the election!

By the way, we want our money back, Russia!

Posted by: Hillary! at May 03, 2017 03:07 PM (2z74n)

198 NorK attack of the US?
[ ] Suitcase nuke
[ ] Air burst nuke
[ ] EMP
[ ] Chem/Bio Posted by: Planning For The Inevitable at May 03, 2017 02:58 PM (ymRuQ)

[x] Ronery marionette nuke
===

Seriously we should load B-52s with buckets of Original Recipe and biscuits and gravy and carpet bomb the Norks

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 03, 2017 03:07 PM (C52a9)

199 an old guy i know pegged comey way before the election...

he must be on drugs

Posted by: concrete girl at May 03, 2017 03:08 PM (HmYuA)

200
That would make a great Starz series -- The year is 2050. Futuristic Whorish Amish Women rule the world.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 03, 2017 03:08 PM (Hour2)

201 But I was told by the msm and #nevertrumpers there was specific language in the bill that prevented Trump from spending a single penny on any wall construction.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
===

shhh.

They're napping.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 03, 2017 03:08 PM (C52a9)

202 .But I was told by the msm and #nevertrumpers there was specific language in the bill that prevented Trump from spending a single penny on any wall construction.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 03, 2017 03:06 PM (le7jz)

The money is there to rebuild an existing fence and drainage along the border... not new fence...

The existing fence is a chain link... like what they put around schools nowadays... not really a 'wall'...

Posted by: Don Q. at May 03, 2017 03:09 PM (NgKpN)

203 That's why you nail her on the bathroom server & emails.
Slam dunk. No intent required.
Do not pass go. Go directly to jail.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2017 03:05 PM (Njtx4)
----------------------------------------------
I initially "saw" that as "nail her in the bathroom"

Posted by: Undocumented at May 03, 2017 03:10 PM (SsblQ)

204 You have NO idea how your life is gonna improve as a result of this. Food tastes better, the air seems fresher. You'll have more energy and self confidence than you ever dreamed of.

When I cut the cable, Kate Upton came by, undressed, and made me a sandwich.

Posted by: Witchdoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at May 03, 2017 03:10 PM (eytER)

205 Speaking of fluid gender...
Posted by: lindarose

* * * *

It's actually pronounced "gender fluid" - which becomes much easier to explain to the kiddies if one simply breaks it down to its component parts. You gender, and then you have fluid. Fluid of the Genders.

Posted by: MSTisdale at May 03, 2017 03:10 PM (g9d8D)

206 I have given up following the logic behind the 'Russians hacked our elections with hookers peeing on Trump' story.

Posted by: IC at May 03, 2017 03:10 PM (a0IVu)

207 Its impaaaahsible to tell which States were swayed by this Russian propoganda.
If we don't have a special do-over election, we should really let the popular vote decide.
Donald Trump should immediately concede the election to avoid damaging our electoral institutions any further!

Posted by: HRC (D-Hell) at May 03, 2017 03:10 PM (QtQaN)

208 IC, how did it go at UCLA?

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 03:11 PM (sBOL1)

209 The dems accused Trump of Russian influence in order to mask their own Russian influence.

This is just the geopolitical equivalent of:
"He who smelt it, dealt it."

Posted by: wooga at May 03, 2017 03:11 PM (k/szL)

210
203 That's why you nail her on the bathroom server & emails.
Slam dunk. No intent required.
Do not pass go. Go directly to jail.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2017 03:05 PM (Njtx4)
----------------------------------------------
I initially "saw" that as "nail her in the bathroom"
Posted by: Undocumented at May 03, 2017 03:10 PM (SsblQ)

Jeez, between this and FS digging up photos of Eleanor Roosevelt as a teenager, I gotta ask if happy hour arrived about five hours ago.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 03, 2017 03:11 PM (pNxlR)

211 The existing fence is a chain link... like what they put around schools nowadays... not really a 'wall'...

Posted by: Don Q
===

Some of it is. Some of it is landing mat. Some , especially at the POEs is byootiful painted vertical bars . Like a twenty foot jail cell.

The journey of a thousand miles....

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 03, 2017 03:11 PM (C52a9)

212

He keeps going back to that whore?

Doesn't he know that we're the only ones that really love him?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:00 PM (

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The thing is we're old, ugly and fat. The twitter whore is young and pretty and has perky tits.

Posted by: Soona at May 03, 2017 03:12 PM (sGd9N)

213 "Gender Fluid" just sounds like a bad euphemism for semen.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at May 03, 2017 03:12 PM (oZ6kz)

214 "Trump yesterday tweeted that Comey "was the best thing that ever happened to Hillary Clinton in that he gave her a pass for many bad deeds!""

So Trump is just going to let this hang out there over Hillary every day? Never give her the closure of a pardon or a trial? Always have people wondering exactly how crooked she is and letting their fertile imaginations have an open stage?

Note: Do not cross Donald Trump.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Hosts the Are We There Yet? Political Party at May 03, 2017 03:12 PM (hLRSq)

215 208
IC, how did it go at UCLA?

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 03:11 PM (sBOL1)

Waiting to see the neurologist - 1pm appointment for testing (EEG) - am praying she cooperates with the EEG..she is petrified, poor kid.

Posted by: IC at May 03, 2017 03:12 PM (a0IVu)

216 The wall of a thousand miles begins with a single brick.

Posted by: zombie at May 03, 2017 03:13 PM (DQ4Fv)

217 Wow. File this under who would have thunk it:

The Free Beacon is reporting that Iran is using all of that cold hard cash obama gave them to buy advanced weapons from Russia to re equip their Army. They increased their defense budget spending by 145% this year.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 03, 2017 03:13 PM (le7jz)

218 >>>It's Natashas on top of Annas on top of Sonjas....<<<

This borscht has a certain wang about it.

Posted by: Fritz at May 03, 2017 03:13 PM (2Mnv1)

219 we need Darrell Issa on this stat!

Posted by: DanMan at May 03, 2017 03:13 PM (XTiHL)

220 A chain-link fence slows them down enough to make it a highly effective free-fire zone

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at May 03, 2017 03:13 PM (DpOmP)

221 192 apparently there really are people who aren't familiar with one of the two most famous solutions in all of detective literature (the other being the Murder of Roger Aykroyd).
Posted by: ace

One of my favorite detective murder solutions is in G.K. Chesterton's "Arrow of Heaven," in which a man locked in a sealed room at the top of a high stone tower is apparently shot dead by an arrow fired from a passing biplane through an extremely narrow slit in the stonework -- a seemingly impossible feat. Yet the man was found dead locked in the locked room, pierced by an arrow, and the plane was seen by many witnesses flying past with someone shooting an arrow from it at the tower, so the solution seemed inescapable.

But the surprise solution -- which has subsequently been copied by countless other authors and screenwriters -- was that the person who first rushed into the room to "discover the body" in fact had concealed an arrow in his clothes and stabbed the (still living) victim in the neck with it moments before everyone else rushed into the room behind him. When the killer immediately declared, "The victim has been shot with an arrow coming in through that window! I saw it with my own two eyes!" it was so believable that no one questioned from whence the arrow came.

What made this, the original of this theme, better that almost all the copycats is that that arrows were designed to be fired and fly through the air, and it is completely counter-intuitive to think of them as a stabbing weapon. Almost all the subsequent copycat plots involved the "discoverer" shooting the victim and claiming the shot came from outside, which removes half the cleverness.
Posted by: zombie at May 03, 2017 03:07 PM (DQ4Fv)

I often watch a NetFlix series called Death in Paradise. It's cheesy and predictable but I found it oddly enjoyable. They used that plot device in an episode I watched recently.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 03, 2017 03:13 PM (hJrjt)

222 Yo! My dog has no nose!

Posted by: black Adolf Hitler at May 03, 2017 03:13 PM (nlbfN)

223 But the surprise solution -- which has subsequently been copied by countless other authors and screenwriters -- was that the person who first rushed into the room to "discover the body" in fact had concealed an arrow in his clothes and stabbed the (still living) victim in the neck with it moments before everyone else rushed into the room behind him. When the killer immediately declared, "The victim has been shot with an arrow coming in through that window! I saw it with my own two eyes!" it was so believable that no one questioned from whence the arrow came.

Most of Chesterton's solutions were like that, really obvious and simple, but it took the unbelievable genius of Father Brown to see through all the nonsense and lies to the simple. Its too bad the BBC Father Brown show is such crap, though.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 03:13 PM (39g3+)

224
Russian Hookers Are Peeing On Our Electrons!

Phase Shifts, Followed by Brownouts, Forecast for This Summer!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 03, 2017 03:13 PM (pNxlR)

225 What made this, the original of this theme, better that almost all the copycats is that that arrows were designed to be fired and fly through the air, and it is completely counter-intuitive to think of them as a stabbing weapon.

--

A clever twist on this was The Empty House, by Arthru Conan Doyle.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 03, 2017 03:13 PM (7ZVPa)

226 Well, Comey has firmly established himself as a sellout, deep state establishment whore or they got something on him. I wonder if he partakes in hotdogs, pasta, cheese pizza, sauce and dominoes. What a hack.

Andrew McCarthy, what say you now about the "stand up guy"?

Posted by: oddnot at May 03, 2017 03:14 PM (g1MTt)

227 It's actually pronounced "gender fluid" - which becomes much easier to explain to the kiddies if one simply breaks it down to its component parts. You gender, and then you have fluid. Fluid of the Genders.

Posted by: MSTisdale at May 03, 2017 03:10 PM (g9d8D)

You can get it at Pep Boys, same shelf as the blinker fluid.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2017 03:14 PM (0deF2)

228 203
That's why you nail her on the bathroom server emails.

Slam dunk. No intent required.

Do not pass go. Go directly to jail.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2017 03:05 PM (Njtx4)

----------------------------------------------

I initially "saw" that as "nail her in the bathroom"

Posted by: Undocumented at May 03, 2017 03:10 PM (SsblQ)

Point of order here. "..nail her.." in the context of the FAB Hillary should never ever be used.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 03, 2017 03:14 PM (jxbfJ)

229 Some of it is. Some of it is landing mat. Some , especially at the POEs is byootiful painted vertical bars . Like a twenty foot jail cell.

The journey of a thousand miles....
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 03, 2017 03:11 PM (C52a9)

Now doesn't start without funding, and an environmental impact statement of how your method of transportation will affect the planet?

Posted by: Don Q. at May 03, 2017 03:14 PM (NgKpN)

230 The leaks are obviously coming from the FBI, likely at Comey's behest.

Posted by: ejo at May 03, 2017 03:14 PM (z1MNB)

231 Clearly you have not witnessed our younger dog. She has graduated from squirrels to catching birds. She has a body count of 20 currently and I have not checked the yard yet this week.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 03, 2017 03:03 PM (le7jz)

Aaand this is why I can't have both a terrier and a doggie door. I got a little tired of waking up to a freshly scragged squirrel or dead bunny on the living room floor. And the look of utter disgust on his part when I threw it out instead of slapping it on the grill.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 03, 2017 03:14 PM (NXsWM)

232

Louise Mensch hardest hit

Bwhahahahsha

That means she is a GRU stooge

Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2017 03:14 PM (qzt3j)

233 213 "Gender Fluid" just sounds like a bad euphemism for semen.
Posted by: broseidon

"Get ready to swallow, baby!"

"But I said I was gender fluid!"

"You say you like gender fluid? Good, because here it comes!"

Posted by: zombie at May 03, 2017 03:14 PM (DQ4Fv)

234 Dindu Nuffins.

"But Dindu is a peaceful planet!

Posted by: Princess Lyndsey at May 03, 2017 03:14 PM (jjz86)

235 Waiting to see the neurologist - 1pm appointment for testing (EEG) - am praying she cooperates with the EEG..she is petrified, poor kid.
Posted by: IC at May 03, 2017 03:12 PM (a0IVu)
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Poor thing. I'm sorry. I'll keep going with the prayers. One of my daughters has had to have a lot of neurological testing too, but she was older than your daughter. It's never fun.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 03:15 PM (sBOL1)

236 I was going to mention this in the last thread but someone must have made a comment that got me blocked at work. Figures that anything about Weiner eventually gets tagged as pron.

Posted by: GregV61 at May 03, 2017 03:15 PM (MoJlY)

237 The leeks are coming from the White House chef!

Posted by: josephistan at May 03, 2017 03:15 PM (7HtZB)

238 I have given up following the logic behind the 'Russians hacked our elections with hookers peeing on Trump' story.

Posted by: IC
===

I look forward to the explanation of how peeing hookers justifies a FISA warrant.

Oh Baaar-ky?

Also. Comey is making the story sympathetic to himself and all about him. He is getting ready to crack.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 03, 2017 03:15 PM (C52a9)

239 You can get it at Pep Boys, same shelf as the blinker fluid.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2017 03:14 PM (0deF2)

Yeah, it's up the aisle from the summer air, which replaces the winter air in your tires about this time of year.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 03, 2017 03:15 PM (NXsWM)

240 237 The leeks are coming from the White House chef!
Posted by: josephistan at May 03, 2017 03:15 PM (7HtZB)

Dude's Swedish.

Bork Bork!

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 03, 2017 03:16 PM (NXsWM)

241

Mensch thinks Comey is her white knight

He just through her under the dossier

Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2017 03:16 PM (qzt3j)

242 216 The wall of a thousand miles begins with a single brick.
Posted by: zombie at May 03, 2017 03:13 PM (DQ4Fv)

Not if we have something to say about it....

Posted by: Federal Judges at May 03, 2017 03:16 PM (NgKpN)

243 Will the dancing black Hitlers please wait in the wings; we are only seeing singing black Hitlers.

Posted by: stage director at May 03, 2017 03:16 PM (nlbfN)

244 Pep Boys is a tool of the Patriarchy,that name needs to change.Pep Folks.

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2017 03:16 PM (r/0kC)

245 Waiting to see the neurologist - 1pm appointment for testing (EEG) - am praying she cooperates with the EEG..she is petrified, poor kid.

I'm sorry that I missed this news, IC. What's going on with your daughter?.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 03, 2017 03:17 PM (fDdVG)

246 No new construction, repair of existing barriers - which vary, from chain-link to the steel panel wall one sees in most of the San Diego sector, from the beach to near Dulzura.

$$$ for new construction did not make it into the CR. It was initially proposed, and at least publicly seen as the administration position. Thus, quite a legitimate "issue" that it's not in the final version.

But don't worry, it will be in the FY18 appropriations. Or it won't. But - possibly - you'll actually get to see names of people voting fer or agin' it.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 03, 2017 03:17 PM (iLoHX)

247 227
It's actually pronounced "gender fluid" - which becomes much easier to
explain to the kiddies if one simply breaks it down to its component
parts. You gender, and then you have fluid. Fluid of the Genders.

Posted by: MSTisdale at May 03, 2017 03:10 PM (g9d8D)

You can get it at Pep Boys, same shelf as the blinker fluid.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2017 03:14 PM (0deF2)

Shelf below the flux capacitor

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 03, 2017 03:17 PM (jxbfJ)

248 >>>But the surprise solution -- which has subsequently been copied by countless other authors and screenwriters -- was that the person who first rushed into the room to "discover the body" in fact had concealed an arrow in his clothes and stabbed the (still living) victim in the neck with it moments before everyone else rushed into the room behind him. When the killer immediately declared, "The victim has been shot with an arrow coming in through that window! I saw it with my own two eyes!"

wow you guys really do not respect the Code of the Spoiler

tho that was indeed obvious and has been done a lot.

maybe I'll spoil the ABC Murders solution for you. (Also ripped off quite a few times.)

Posted by: ace at May 03, 2017 03:17 PM (8rNrN)

249
The very first stupid question out of lindsey graham's stupid duplicitous mouth was: "Director Comey, do you agree with me that Sequester in next year's budget would devastate the FBI?"

Comey: "Yes."

Bullshit political hacks, the both of them.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 03, 2017 03:17 PM (Hour2)

250 I often watch a NetFlix series called Death in Paradise. It's cheesy and predictable but I found it oddly enjoyable. They used that plot device in an episode I watched recently.
Posted by: Northernlurker

Yes, I saw that as well. I immediately noticed that they had copied the G.K. Chesterton plot almost verbatim -- except using bullets instead of arrows.

It is a strangely entertaining show -- at least until the inexplicably got rid of the Sara Martins character. She was smokin.'

Posted by: zombie at May 03, 2017 03:17 PM (DQ4Fv)

251 Lucky for Comey, Trump is okay with ineptness, insubordination and sabotage

Posted by: Derbererd at May 03, 2017 03:18 PM (Fw/Zr)

252 245, I'm sorry that I missed this news, IC. What's going on with your daughter?.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 03, 2017 03:17 PM (fDdVG)
All the medical problems that seem to plague autistic kids - seizures, motor tics, etc. etc. so many bumps in the road.

Posted by: IC at May 03, 2017 03:18 PM (a0IVu)

253 One more time:

People who think Trump is the Russian stooge sure live in an interesting world. Lively color palette. Pervasive smell of bullshit.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 03, 2017 03:18 PM (B+qrE)

254 Honestly,I find mysteries extremely boring.I do like Sherlock Holmes stories though.

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2017 03:18 PM (r/0kC)

255 Anybody see the movie Don't Breathe?

There was a turkey baster full of gender fluid in that flick, I tell ya.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 03, 2017 03:18 PM (ul9CR)

256 Wait......so Colbert was working for the Russians?

And then Timmy fell in the well?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 03, 2017 03:19 PM (J+eG2)

257 Zombie.....you crack me up!

Posted by: lindarose at May 03, 2017 03:19 PM (kufk0)

258 251 Lucky for Comey, Trump is okay with ineptness, insubordination and sabotage
Posted by: Derbererd at May 03, 2017 03:18 PM (Fw/Zr)

"Ya fired!"

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 03, 2017 03:19 PM (NXsWM)

259 maybe I'll spoil the ABC Murders solution for you. (Also ripped off quite a few times.)

Posted by: ace at May 03, 2017 03:17 PM (8rNrN)
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I was just thinking that that was a good one too, along with Roger Akroyd and Orient Express.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 03:19 PM (sBOL1)

260
244 Pep Boys is a tool of the Patriarchy,that name needs to change. Pep Peeps ~~Folks~~.
Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2017 03:16 PM (r/0kC)

And have them offer heavily discounted old Easter candy in the bargain.

Win-win!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 03, 2017 03:19 PM (pNxlR)

261 Posted by: IC at May 03, 2017 03:18 PM (a0IVu)

I'm so sorry. I will pray for her. How old is she?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 03, 2017 03:19 PM (fDdVG)

262 244 Pep Boys is a tool of the Patriarchy,that name needs to change.Pep Folks.

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2017 03:16 PM (r/0kC)

And Five Guys need to be changed to Five People

Posted by: Derbererd at May 03, 2017 03:19 PM (Fw/Zr)

263 ".....covered with the prints of Her Thighness..." Posted by: xnycpeasant

* * * * * *

Sensing an episode of Forensic Files here. We've picked up what appears to be giant thigh prints all over the server machine and the emails. Also, on Comey's (and Huma's) cheeks, although on Comey they were facing the other direction, almost as if she jumped him from behind.

Posted by: MSTisdale at May 03, 2017 03:19 PM (g9d8D)

264 Mortimer may be on to something - I have found Comey a bizarre character for some time, this latest performance is the strangest yet, perhaps he is about to crack, or perceives an axe falling him from some direction.

And the FISA connection to the ridiculous "dossier", if confirmed - wow.

The country is unrecognizable from even a few years ago.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 03, 2017 03:19 PM (iLoHX)

265 I'll blow several Christie solutions for you by noting that when you hear a gunshot and then see a wound or a dead man, do NOT assume the first preceded the latter. The actual bullet was fired an hour before the "gunshot" noise.

Posted by: ace at May 03, 2017 03:19 PM (8rNrN)

266 I never named any of MY sleds "Rosebud."

Posted by: Witchdoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at May 03, 2017 03:19 PM (eytER)

267

Prayers for your girl IC

Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2017 03:20 PM (qzt3j)

268 If you press the left on what exactly this "Russian hack" consists of they either just repeat themselves and call you a Russian stooge (or a Russian account, had that happen once)... or claim that leaked emails, fake news sites, and social media accounts are to blame.

Now, putting aside how the fake news was largely from the media, let's assume they're right. Creating websites with false information on them and social media accounts to spread that news isn't... illegal. Or prohibited in any way. Or even connected to Donald Trump. And even if they were connected to Trump, they still aren't illegal or proelbmatic.

And as for the emails, there's a lot of confusion out there. People say Russians hacked Hillary Clinton and leaked them. But that's not what happened. Someone hacked Hillary's craptastic server security and got emails -- many of them classified documents illegally on her server -- but the emails released were not Hillary's.

Further, the source of the leaks states unequivocally that they were from an inside DNC staffer, angry at how Sanders was treated. They were exclusively John Podesta emails.

The entire story is ridiculous.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 03:20 PM (39g3+)

269 Remember the Ace Hardware jingle?It is now Ace is the place with the helpful hardware folks.

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2017 03:20 PM (r/0kC)

270 I hear they're doing re-shoots for Murder on the Orient Express. The train engineer will now be played by Ho Lee Fuk.

Posted by: gewa76 at May 03, 2017 03:21 PM (f4GSC)

271 >>>I was just thinking that that was a good one too, along with Roger Akroyd and Orient Express.

so simple, yet... would probably work.

I wonder if it would, actually. Would cops fall for it? I've actually never heard of this really happening, so maybe cops would assume "No one would be so brazen to try that."

Posted by: ace at May 03, 2017 03:21 PM (8rNrN)

272 "maybe I'll spoil the ABC Murders solution for you. (Also ripped off quite a few times.)

Posted by: ace at May 03, 2017 03:17 PM (8rNrN) "

Doesn't a spoiler cease to be a spoiler when it enters the cultural zeitgeist? Like you can't really "spoil" The Sixth Sense or Empire Strikes Back. Of course it's always a bit subjective which spoilers are so well known that they cease to be spoilable.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at May 03, 2017 03:21 PM (oZ6kz)

273 Damn Ace,
That was next in my queue....thanks!

Posted by: lindarose at May 03, 2017 03:21 PM (kufk0)

274 "One of the documents described 'Ron Dellums, former Republican Congressman'""

::: facepalm :::

Dellums went on from his dubious career in Congress to an equally dubious career as mayor of Croakland, CA, the biggest city in his former congressional district. Needless to say, not as a Republican in either instance.

Dellums wasn't exactly a blur of activity by the time he became a mayor. So laid-back as to be positively recumbent.

I always laughed when in the comments section of the local fishwrap, after articles describing the latest awful civic dysfunction to befall Oakland, someone would indignantly say, "This would never have happened while Ron Dellums was still alive!"

Posted by: torquewrench at May 03, 2017 03:21 PM (qJjMA)

275 I'll blow several Christie solutions for you by noting that when you hear a gunshot and then see a wound or a dead man, do NOT assume the first preceded the latter. The actual bullet was fired an hour before the "gunshot" noise.

Posted by: ace at May 03, 2017 03:19 PM (8rNrN)
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Great. Just great.

I'm off to return the 2 dozen Christie mysteries I just checked out from the library.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 03:21 PM (sBOL1)

276
"Waiter, I distinctly remember not ordering gender fuild on my sammich!"

"That's mayo, ma'am."

"Oh, sorry! My mistake."

"That's quite alright, ma'am."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 03, 2017 03:22 PM (pNxlR)

277 Also I do like Columbo,but those are not mysteries because you know who dod it.The fun is watching Columbo figure out who did it.

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2017 03:22 PM (r/0kC)

278
Dammit...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 03, 2017 03:22 PM (pNxlR)

279 And whenever Bugs Meany says he's innocent, just wait him out. He'll get over-specific on some minor point of his story, and then bam! You got him.

Posted by: Encyclopr at May 03, 2017 03:22 PM (ul9CR)

280

I c my autistic kid had an EEG when he was little and got through fine. They were wonderful with him.

Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2017 03:22 PM (qzt3j)

281 You all do understand this means that you must acquit any US citizen, if the evidence was gathered by the Federal government, if you are on the jury?
Regardless of the crime, regardless of the evidence?

If they pick and choose who will be prosecuted--and the exempt are neatly among the rich and powerful--they are no longer a legitimate source on anything.

The rank and file in the FBI are no more honorable than Comey.

Until they prosecute Hillary, the federal government has no legitimacy prosecuting ANY ONE!

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 03, 2017 03:22 PM (ZQpd0)

282 I don't understand how a government official can simply refuse to provide information to the governing body that has oversight without any consequences.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 03, 2017 03:23 PM (V+jJS)

283 wow you guys really do not respect the Code of the Spoiler

tho that was indeed obvious and has been done a lot.

maybe I'll spoil the ABC Murders solution for you. (Also ripped off quite a few times.)

Posted by: ace

In this case the plot-device has been copied so often in so many subsequent series and formats that it is almost universally known, and has ceased being a "secret" that can be "spoiled." I am conscious of the "no spoiler rule," but a few gimmicks has crossed the line from "unexpected" to "hackneyed," this being one of them.

Posted by: zombie at May 03, 2017 03:23 PM (DQ4Fv)

284 Honestly,I find mysteries extremely boring.I do like Sherlock Holmes stories though.

I don't read mysteries for the mystery, I read them for the characters, setting, history, and how they go about the investigation. Its part of why I love Chandler so much; his stories aren't really about the mystery at all.

As for spoilers, I figure any story 100 years old is fair game.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 03:23 PM (39g3+)

285 So, basically, the dossier that was created by the British "intelligence" agent and then used by Obama to justify a FISA warrant against Trump et al to investigate "Russia connections," was actually created by a Russia front group?

To paraphrase Walter Sobchak from the Big Lebowski, "J*** C*** Dude, she didn't even kidnap herself."

I'm not even mad, I'm impressed.

Posted by: Alex #11 at May 03, 2017 03:23 PM (ka13S)

286 We usually solve mysteries by getting ourselves kidnapped and tied up. Sounds weird and kinky, but somehow it works for us.

Posted by: The Hardy Boys at May 03, 2017 03:23 PM (ul9CR)

287 Mary Magdalene is buried in the LOUVRE? WTF?

Posted by: Witchdoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at May 03, 2017 03:24 PM (eytER)

288 Yay! Leeks! (giggles)

Posted by: Hatsune Miku at May 03, 2017 03:24 PM (jjz86)

289 I wonder if it would, actually. Would cops fall for it? I've actually never heard of this really happening, so maybe cops would assume "No one would be so brazen to try that."

Posted by: ace at May 03, 2017 03:21 PM (8rNrN)
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Not that I know about such things, but I highly doubt that many, if any, real-life murderers go to the trouble of such highly detailed planning. In real life it is usually much more straight-forward.

So it might work.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 03:24 PM (sBOL1)

290 >>>Doesn't a spoiler cease to be a spoiler when it enters the cultural zeitgeist? Like you can't really "spoil" The Sixth Sense or Empire Strikes Back. Of course it's always a bit subjective which spoilers are so well known that they cease to be spoilable.

tbh, when something's so Old it's practically New.

Honestly, if someone referenced a dic fic book and said "The solution is as good as Aykroyd" I'd put it on my list.

Posted by: ace at May 03, 2017 03:24 PM (8rNrN)

291 Doesn't a spoiler cease to be a spoiler when it enters the cultural zeitgeist? Like you can't really "spoil" The Sixth Sense or Empire Strikes Back. Of course it's always a bit subjective which spoilers are so well known that they cease to be spoilable.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at May 03, 2017 03:21 PM (oZ6kz)

When something has been out as long as have Agatha Christie stories, "spoiler" is meaningless. And if Hollywood remakes Murder on the Orient Express, and changes whodunit, then it's no longer Murder on the Orient Express, is it?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2017 03:24 PM (0deF2)

292 Late to the game here. Can one of my (many) betters explain Ace's post to me in four sentences or less?

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 03, 2017 03:24 PM (TdMsT)

293
266 I never named any of MY sleds "Rosebud."
Posted by: Witchdoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at May 03, 2017 03:19 PM (eytER)

"Rosebud" was the brand.

Hope Solo was the spokesdudette.

* rimshot *

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 03, 2017 03:24 PM (pNxlR)

294 I really don't recall spoilers bothering me,the Marvel comics movie adaptions came out before the movie did.They usually had stuff that was edited out in them too which was cool.Star Wars has all the deleted Biggs scenes and Jabba the Hutt.Empire had the subplot with the Wampas unfesting the Rebel base etc.

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2017 03:25 PM (r/0kC)

295 Can we ban-hammer spoilers?

Yes, it really is that big of an offense.

Posted by: goodluckduck at May 03, 2017 03:25 PM (yqvys)

296 289 And murders that aren't straight forward are rarely solved.

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2017 03:26 PM (r/0kC)

297
Pee Dossier created by Russian agents, now being used to discredit POTUS and undermine faith in our government

Louise Mensch hardest hit

Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2017 03:26 PM (qzt3j)

298 The chick in The Crying Game is actually a guy

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 03, 2017 03:26 PM (SIY7D)

299
So let's leave it alone. Because we can't see eye to eye.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 03, 2017 03:26 PM (5FR1m)

300 Supposedly according to police, the more complicated and planned a murder, the easier it is to unravel. Its the random, "sudden act of passion by a traveling stranger" murders that they have the least chance of solving. I can see why, really.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 03:27 PM (39g3+)

301 261
Posted by: IC at May 03, 2017 03:18 PM (a0IVu)

I'm so sorry. I will pray for her. How old is she?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 03, 2017 03:19 PM (fDdVG)
she is seven - thanks for all your prayers, all of you. It has been pretty rough. Still is.

Posted by: IC at May 03, 2017 03:27 PM (a0IVu)

302 "My sister!" (Slap) "My mother!" (Slap) "My sister!" (Slap) "My mother!" (Slap) "My sister!" (Slap) "My mother!"

Posted by: zombie at May 03, 2017 03:27 PM (DQ4Fv)

303 apparently there really are people who aren't familiar with one of
the two most famous solutions in all of detective literature (the other
being the Murder of Roger Aykroyd).

Posted by: ace

My favorite solution is the murder in "The Mystery of the Silver Blaze" - and which constantly gets confused by many with the Hound of the Baskervilles (in that the key clue is "The curious incident of the dog in the nightime" to which another character replies - "but the dog did nothing in the nightime?" "That, sir, is the curious incident" Holmes replies.) In any event - a legal adversary tried to use the "dog that did not bark" from "the Hound of the Baskervilles" once in court against me metaphorically - and then got their head handed to them,also metaphorically, when I calmly pointed out that that clue was from the "Mystery of the Silver Blaze" thus revealing to the court, I pointed out, that not only did my adversary attorney not know the case at the bar, but also did not, apparently, know how to read. Heh. Good times. Good times. One of my finest moments as a litigator. I love to tell that story.

Spoiler alert: The murderer is actually the stolen race horse - Silver Blaze who kicked his kidnapper to death when he becomes spooked on the moor.

Posted by: Publius Redux at May 03, 2017 03:27 PM (Fb9aZ)

304
292 Late to the game here. Can one of my (many) betters explain Ace's post to me in four sentences or less?
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 03, 2017 03:24 PM (TdMsT)

10 Loop N=4 times
20 White block
30 Gray block
40 N=N-1; GOTO 20

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 03, 2017 03:27 PM (pNxlR)

305 Guys,I have sad news.Vaginas might go extinct...

http://tinyurl.com/m29qfps

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2017 03:28 PM (r/0kC)

306 197
We TOLD you they were hacking the election!

By the way, we want our money back, Russia!

Posted by: Hillary! at May 03, 2017 03:07 PM

The progs always, always accuse others of what they are doing. They are so unimaginative, such dullards and dimwits that they can't think of anything worse than what they themselves are doing at the moment.

Posted by: Lester at May 03, 2017 03:28 PM (LfJIn)

307 And murders that aren't straight forward are rarely solved.
Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2017 03:26 PM (r/0kC)
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Of course that's because Sherlock Holmes, Miss Marple, and Poirot are all dead now. Duh.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 03:28 PM (sBOL1)

308

It was a dream

Harry is a horcrux of Voldemort

They all go to jail

She has a baby and moves to upstate NY with the friend she least likes

Its a sled

Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2017 03:28 PM (qzt3j)

309 302
"My sister!" (Slap) "My mother!" (Slap) "My sister!" (Slap) "My mother!" (Slap) "My sister!" (Slap) "My mother!"

Posted by: zombie at May 03, 2017 03:27 PM (DQ4Fv)

***
Forget it Ace . . . It's Chinatown.

Posted by: Publius Redux at May 03, 2017 03:28 PM (Fb9aZ)

310 Ha ha, Victor! This is so much fun to watch the TV withthe American FBI guy try to, how you say, explain far away?, the Trump dossier which my KGB friends made as a joke on the stupid Buzzfeed idiots and this Comey and the media make it like it was some real spy work and Trump is controlled by Kremlin! Ha! Bring me a vodka Victor! Nyet! Bring two with one for you! Let's toast this Comey the head of US Investigation Department! What a fool!

Posted by: Putin at May 03, 2017 03:28 PM (g1MTt)

311 The country is unrecognizable from even a few years ago.

Posted by: rhomboid
====

Agreed.

Only a certified billionaire madman would even attempt to fix this lawless , unholy mess.

Trump said it himself " I might fail."

And this is the tip of the iceberg. The part that is public.

None of these DC slimeballs want their dirty dealings in the papers. That may be why Trump is letting this little charade play out.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 03, 2017 03:28 PM (C52a9)

312
I like the murder mysteries where the bullet is made of.....

ice!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 03, 2017 03:29 PM (5FR1m)

313 Yes, it really is that big of an offense.

Posted by: goodluckduck at May 03, 2017 03:25 PM (yqvys)

No, it's not. The pleasure of a book or movie is the process, not the outcome. Let's face it: the outcome of every Disney movie ever, is "and they all lived happily ever after." The entertainment comes from the process of getting there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2017 03:29 PM (0deF2)

314 You have to be careful assuming what is "common knowledge." I accidently ruined the ending of Harry Potter and the Half-blood Prince, assuming anybody going to watch the movie had read the book.

Posted by: goodluckduck at May 03, 2017 03:29 PM (yqvys)

315 In mine Winter's Tale, Hermione isn't really dead.

She's turned into a statue, and she shalt come back to life in the final act.

Who sayeth we didn't have good drugs in the Jacobean era?

Posted by: Willy Shakespeare at May 03, 2017 03:29 PM (ul9CR)

316
312
I like the murder mysteries where the bullet is made of.....

ice!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 03, 2017 03:29 PM (5FR1m)

frozen hamburger, FTW

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 03, 2017 03:30 PM (pNxlR)

317 Late to the game here. Can one of my (many) betters explain Ace's post to me in four sentences or less?
Posted by: Ladylibertarian
-----------
So, basically, the dossier that was created by the British
"intelligence" agent and then used by Obama to justify a FISA warrant
against Trump et al. to investigate "Russia connections," was actually
created by a Russia front group?

Posted by: Alex #11 at May 03, 2017 03:23 PM (ka13S)

Posted by: andycanuck at May 03, 2017 03:30 PM (nlbfN)

318 312 Those are as stupid as aliens invading earth to steal our water.

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2017 03:30 PM (r/0kC)

319 250 I often watch a NetFlix series called Death in Paradise. It's cheesy and predictable but I found it oddly enjoyable. They used that plot device in an episode I watched recently.
Posted by: Northernlurker

Yes, I saw that as well. I immediately noticed that they had copied the G.K. Chesterton plot almost verbatim -- except using bullets instead of arrows.

It is a strangely entertaining show -- at least until the inexplicably got rid of the Sara Martins character. She was smokin.'
Posted by: zombie at May 03, 2017 03:17 PM (DQ4Fv)

Sara Martin was smoking indeed but I find her successor, Josephine Joubert to be easy to look at as well. She's very pretty--nice eyes and smile.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 03, 2017 03:30 PM (hJrjt)

320
Years ago, before we had all this technology, Ace riffed on tv shows and movies over-using the "super enhanced image" technology!

They zoomed in on an image, enhance the ever-loving shit out of it, and oila!, the murderer is revealed!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 03, 2017 03:30 PM (5FR1m)

321 "The pleasure of a book or movie is the process, not the outcome. Let's face it"

Certainly not, especially with a mystery story.

Posted by: goodluckduck at May 03, 2017 03:30 PM (yqvys)

322 I can't wait for Ace's review of "The Handmaid's Tale."

Please, Ace!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2017 03:30 PM (PY9jH)

323 Looking at the BTK murders in hindsight, it appears to me that a few more cross referencing of common contacts / entities could have identified a number of suspects eventually leading to an arrest many years before he started killing again.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 03, 2017 03:30 PM (V+jJS)

324
But in Reality, zooming in on image only distorts it. The image becomes nothing but "noise."

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 03, 2017 03:31 PM (5FR1m)

325 http://tinyurl.com/m29qfps

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2017 03:28 PM (r/0kC)

In her case, it can't happen fast enough.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2017 03:31 PM (0deF2)

326 Roger Akroyd was good in Blues Brothers, but mostly 'meh' after that.

Posted by: Roland THTG at May 03, 2017 03:32 PM (QM5S2)

327

Movie I wish I could watch but is never available anywhere

Giant

Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2017 03:32 PM (qzt3j)

328
313 Yes, it really is that big of an offense.

Posted by: goodluckduck at May 03, 2017 03:25 PM (yqvys)

No, it's not. The pleasure of a book or movie is the process, not the outcome. Let's face it: the outcome of every Disney movie ever, is "and they all lived happily ever after." The entertainment comes from the process of getting there.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2017 03:29 PM (0deF2)

And, in the sequels or remakes, they'll let you know which of the characters was gay!

Chip 'n' Dale?

Huey, Dewey, or Louie?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 03, 2017 03:32 PM (pNxlR)

329 327 A couple months back TCM showed it multiple times.

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2017 03:32 PM (r/0kC)

330 Spoiler: We didn't make it.

Posted by: RMS Titanic at May 03, 2017 03:33 PM (326rv)

331
Giant...with Paul Newman??

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 03, 2017 03:33 PM (5FR1m)

332 I read the post twice and still can’t make sense of the accusation even though I spent most of my career reading environmental regulations and legal correspondence.

Maybe I’m too dumb to see a problem here.

Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) at May 03, 2017 03:33 PM (nvMvs)

333 One of the things I like about certain police procedural novels is how hard the cops have to work to find the killer--and how dogged they have to be.
An example is Ian Rankin's Inspector Rebus series. Doggedness doesn't work as well in an hour long television show.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 03, 2017 03:34 PM (hJrjt)

334 OT:

Possibly Self Evident: Money has diminishing returns in terms of vote getting. At the presidential level, name recognition will be very high for both major party candidates due to the ubiquitous nature of media focus on the race, but the further you go down, the more money matters.

Proposition: One could "buy" a few primary elections, challenging and defeating incumbents, in very small races such as those for state house seats. Very few people can name their state house member (I can because I drive by her law offices sometimes and remember), but the advantages of incumbency are minimal at best.

Also, with populations so small (voting totals going no more than about 20,000 people), there becomes a diminishing return on money within these races as well.

What does this all mean? That a largely ignored state house seat could be "bought" for less than $50,000 while a more hotly contested one (where the incumbent actually raises a lot of money) might require no more than $150,000.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:34 PM (BjrOM)

335 Giant is on Amazon for $2.99 sd

Posted by: NCKate at May 03, 2017 03:34 PM (b0aKb)

336 >>Guys,I have sad news.Vaginas might go extinct...

http://tinyurl.com/m29qfps

Hey, wait a minute - I was told "The future is female!"

What's sick is that this was said at a PP event, where their services can be used for sex-selective abortions, as in literally killing a baby for being female.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 03, 2017 03:34 PM (NOIQH)

337 Yes, it really is that big of an offense.

Posted by: goodluckduck at May 03, 2017 03:25 PM (yqvys)

No, it's not. The pleasure of a book or movie is the process, not
the outcome. Let's face it: the outcome of every Disney movie ever, is
"and they all lived happily ever after." The entertainment comes from
the process of getting there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2017 03:29 PM (0deF2)
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I might agree with you in other works of fiction. But in mysteries? It is definitely a spoiler to reveal the ending. The whole point of a mystery is trying to solve the puzzle. If you are engaged in a problem-solving activity for the simple joy of it. someone coming along the sidewalk and tossing you the answer is definitely a spoiler. What's the point then?

When I see someone start a long paragraph talking about a mystery, I immediately skip over that post.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2017 03:35 PM (dFi94)

338

I read a book Run Brother Run

About a local attoney who brother was murdered

The hit man was acquitted and the guy that hired him was never tried

They got away with it! And thd guy who hired the hitman, now deceased, brags about it

He runs a flooring business in Houston

Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2017 03:35 PM (qzt3j)

339 Jon Snow is a Targaryen.

So is Tyrion. Tywin says: "You're no son of mine" Mom got around.

So Danaerys Jon and Tyrion ride the three dragons.

Cersei believes the witch who told her she be offed by her younger brother, but it'll actually be Jamie, her slightly younger twin

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 03, 2017 03:35 PM (SIY7D)

340 Charles Grassley is 83. Who will ask questions after he is gone?

Posted by: rhetorical questioner at May 03, 2017 03:35 PM (1/uGq)

341 Looking at the BTK murders in hindsight, it appears to me that a few more cross referencing of common contacts / entities could have identified a number of suspects eventually leading to an arrest many years before he started killing again.
Posted by: Jack Sock

How was that vermin caught?

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 03, 2017 03:35 PM (326rv)

342 So is Jeff Sessions going to sack Comey now?

Posted by: Iblis at May 03, 2017 03:35 PM (9221z)

343 313 Yes, it really is that big of an offense.

Posted by: goodluckduck at May 03, 2017 03:25 PM (yqvys)

No, it's not. The pleasure of a book or movie is the process, not the outcome. Let's face it: the outcome of every Disney movie ever, is "and they all lived happily ever after." The entertainment comes from the process of getting there.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2017 03:29 PM (0deF2)

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If the ending was everything in entertainment, you'd never watch anything twice because you already know how it ends.

Most people say the ending to Apocalypse Now is weak, but it's still really well regarded by those same people. It's because the journey to the ending is so good, even if the ending leaves you cold (it doesn't me, I love that ending).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:36 PM (BjrOM)

344 335 Giant is on Amazon for $2.99 sd
Posted by: NCKate at May 03, 2017 03:34 PM (b0aKb)

Renamed Giant Closet in honor of Rock Hudson.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 03, 2017 03:36 PM (V+jJS)

345 The stone was rolled aside and the tomb was empty.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 03, 2017 03:36 PM (IqV8l)

346
Spoiler Alert!

Despite being down by 3 - 28 late in the 3rd quarter, the New England Patriots came roaring back to crush the hapless Atlanta Falcons, 34 - 28 in OT.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 03, 2017 03:36 PM (pNxlR)

347

With Rock Hudson and Elizabeth Taylor

Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2017 03:36 PM (qzt3j)

348 The pleasure of a book or movie is the process, not the outcome. Let's face it: the outcome of every Disney movie ever, is "and they all lived happily ever after." The entertainment comes from the process of getting there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2017 03:29 PM (0deF2)

Woof?

Posted by: Old Yeller at May 03, 2017 03:36 PM (Fw5cQ)

349 So is Jeff Sessions going to sack Comey now?

Posted by: Iblis at May 03, 2017 03:35 PM (9221z)

As soon as he's finished going over fabric samples for his new office drapes.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2017 03:36 PM (PY9jH)

350 If I were doing Handmaid's tale, I'd turn it into its obvious proper setting: a future America where Muslims took over. Seriously, the story fits Islam like a glove. women are oppressed and barely considered human, they must be covered head to toe, they cannot enjoy sex, some are mutilated surgically... its almost an exact fit. Its such an obvious shift, since the original story makes no sense whatsoever in Christianity.

Its like a Jack Chick tract featuring some atheist's bizarre ignorant version of Christians he fears are out there looking to ban fun.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 03:36 PM (39g3+)

351

Who likes Mini Skirts?

Why don't women dress like this anymore?
And dance like this, anymore?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1EpaboCERg

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 03, 2017 03:37 PM (5FR1m)

352 What does this all mean? That a largely ignored state house seat could be "bought" for less than $50,000 while a more hotly contested one (where the incumbent actually raises a lot of money) might require no more than $150,000.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:34 PM (BjrOM)

Where are you getting those figures from?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 03, 2017 03:37 PM (KUaJL)

353 For those of you who like character development in their mysteries, check out Margery Allingham's Campion series.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 03, 2017 03:37 PM (7ZVPa)

354 Certainly not, especially with a mystery story.

Posted by: goodluckduck at May 03, 2017 03:30 PM (yqvys)

Well, you are wrong, wrong as you can possibly be. Do you think the theaters hand out awards to moviegoers who correctly guess the identity of the murderer? You are watching a character solve a puzzle, and even if you know the solution, the premise of the movie is that the protagonist doesn't.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2017 03:37 PM (0deF2)

355 I just got a flyer in the mail from a "dermatology" clinic advertising "vaginal rejuvenation". I'm not kidding, just now...how weird is that???

Posted by: lindarose on her phone at May 03, 2017 03:38 PM (Bk0n1)

356 Late to the game here. Can one of my (many) betters explain Ace's post to me in four sentences or less?
Posted by: Ladylibertarian "

See that old sofa sitting on the curb? Lift a cushion... eeek, Russians!

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 03, 2017 03:38 PM (MINbv)

357 Worst ending of a movie ever was Message in a Bottle. That's what I get for watching a chick flick.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 03, 2017 03:38 PM (V+jJS)

358 Giant is on Amazon for $2.99

Spoiler: everyone in the film is ordinary sized.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 03:38 PM (39g3+)

359 325-I had no idea who Shonda Rimes is, but this is rather unintentionally amusing:

I can't get over the fact that a room full of straight white males who couldn't find a vulva with two hands and a flashlight are insistent upon telling me and all my friends who to do with the vaginas we have all been driving around America our entire lives she (Ms Rimers) said.

Just got an image of a vagina sitting in her passenger seat and that of her friends while they they drive it around Lyft for lady parts!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 03, 2017 03:38 PM (fDdVG)

360
If I were doing Handmaid's tale, I'd turn it into its obvious proper
setting: a future America where Muslims took over. Seriously, the story
fits Islam like a glove. women are oppressed and barely considered
human, they must be covered head to toe, they cannot enjoy sex, some are
mutilated surgically... its almost an exact fit. Its such an obvious
shift, since the original story makes no sense whatsoever in
Christianity.

Its like a Jack Chick tract featuring some atheist's bizarre
ignorant version of Christians he fears are out there looking to ban
fun.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 03:36 PM (39g3+)

In upside down world, Hillary sez we "must defend the morality of abortion" or we'll be living The Handmaid's Tale.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2017 03:38 PM (PY9jH)

361 Let's face it: the outcome of every Disney movie ever, is "and they all lived happily ever after."

Blow me.

Posted by: The Evil Stepmother at May 03, 2017 03:38 PM (326rv)

362

I don't know what vag rejuvenation is

Would you need that if you had c sections

Like. Is this for stretched out hoo has?

Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2017 03:39 PM (qzt3j)

363 Worst ending of a movie ever was Message in a Bottle. That's what I get for watching a chick flick.
Sting did it?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 03, 2017 03:39 PM (nlbfN)

364 If the ending was everything in entertainment, you'd never watch anything twice because you already know how it ends.
=======================

There are certain entertainment scenarios where puzzling out the ending is the point of the exercise. Not everything is Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2017 03:40 PM (dFi94)

365 For those of you who like character development in their mysteries, check out Margery Allingham's Campion series.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 03, 2017 03:37 PM (7ZVPa)
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+100. They are awesome. Have you ever watched the BBC series with Peter Davison? They did a good job staying true to the books, and Davison makes an excellent Campion. Lugg was spot on too.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 03:40 PM (sBOL1)

366 The pleasure of a book or movie is the process, not the outcome. Let's face it: the outcome of every Disney movie ever, is "and they all lived happily ever after." The entertainment comes from the process of getting there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2017 03:29 PM (0deF2)

Woof?
Posted by: Old Yeller

Indeed.

Posted by: Gaston at May 03, 2017 03:40 PM (326rv)

367 352 What does this all mean? That a largely ignored state house seat could be "bought" for less than $50,000 while a more hotly contested one (where the incumbent actually raises a lot of money) might require no more than $150,000.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:34 PM (BjrOM)

Where are you getting those figures from?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 03, 2017 03:37 PM (KUaJL)

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I'm pouring over primary results from Ballotpedia and financing numbers for the same races at followthemoney.org.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:40 PM (BjrOM)

368 323 Looking at the BTK murders in hindsight, it appears to me that a few more cross referencing of common contacts / entities could have identified a number of suspects eventually leading to an arrest many years before he started killing again.
Posted by: Jack Sock

I don't know if that works in a small town, you can't have Kevin Bacon as a suspect to everything.

Posted by: Jean at May 03, 2017 03:41 PM (LpSwC)

369 I think the movie I saw had Peter Ustinov playing Poirot. I'm guessing Suchet is the other one who has played the detective but didn't Albert Finney do it as well.

Posted by: dantesed at May 03, 2017 03:41 PM (88xKn)

370 364
There are certain entertainment scenarios where puzzling out the ending is the point of the exercise. Not everything is Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2017 03:40 PM (dFi94)

================

Wait...it's not?!?!?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:41 PM (BjrOM)

371 Posted by: Gaston at May 03, 2017 03:40 PM (326rv)

But he got puppies.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 03, 2017 03:41 PM (V+jJS)

372 They are awesome. Have you ever watched the BBC series with Peter Davison?

--

Bought it, worth watching over and over. Another good series is Dorothy Sayer's Lord Wimsey books.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 03, 2017 03:41 PM (7ZVPa)

373 Woof?

Posted by: Old Yeller at May 03, 2017 03:36 PM (Fw5cQ)

Well, little Timmy didn't get rabies when you dragged him out of the well with your jaws, so there's that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2017 03:42 PM (0deF2)

374 The pleasure of a book or movie is the process, not the outcome.
==========================

oh gee let's all head out to the Renaissance Faire.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2017 03:42 PM (dFi94)

375

I mean

Did it start out as a coin purse and stretched into a duffle bag?

Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2017 03:42 PM (qzt3j)

376 Michael the Texan -

I tried to answer your question, but Pixy wouldn't let me post my answer, no clue why.

Essentially, it appears that the company who employed Christopher Steele, the Brit who put together the Russian dossier on Trump for the FBI, was possibly a Russian prop company.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 03:42 PM (sBOL1)

377 374 The pleasure of a book or movie is the process, not the outcome.
==========================

oh gee let's all head out to the Renaissance Faire.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2017 03:42 PM (dFi94)

What do you have against RenFairs? They have mead!

Posted by: Insomniac at May 03, 2017 03:42 PM (0mRoj)

378 Our government is filled with criminals who profit off of the black market, wars, and special interests representing multi nation corporations.

Fuck DC in the squeak hole.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe, MGTOW at May 03, 2017 03:42 PM (2qHjF)

379 I'm pouring over primary results from Ballotpedia and financing numbers for the same races at followthemoney.org.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

You need the local ad buy costs by media and market for each district.

Posted by: Jean at May 03, 2017 03:43 PM (LpSwC)

380 Shonda Rimes is an executive producer on a lot of TV shows that are chick-bait - Grey's Anatomy, Scandal, How To Get Away with Murder.

So yes, she knows a lot about women...how to exploit them with fluff TV, at least.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at May 03, 2017 03:43 PM (oZ6kz)

381 A tribute to Dawn Wells (Maryanne) set to Sugar Sugar

https://youtu.be/64mAgL8G4-E

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 03:43 PM (39g3+)

382 You always blame another government agency when your agency needs to perform a coverup.
"The documents were sent over by Priority Mail Express. We will try and find the tracking number. Copies? The GSA provided copiers were undergoing maintenance and we didn't think it was likely the originals would disappear. The person who wrote the report? The original investigators were requested by the State Department for field work in Mongolia and they are presently unavailable.
Senator, we are responding as best we can during this time of transition."

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 03, 2017 03:43 PM (kIxPI)

383 There are certain entertainment scenarios where puzzling out the ending is the point of the exercise.
------------------------------------
There are certain entertainment scenarios where there seems to be no point of the exercise.

Posted by: Undocumented at May 03, 2017 03:43 PM (SsblQ)

384 Bought it, worth watching over and over. Another good series is Dorothy Sayer's Lord Wimsey books.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 03, 2017 03:41 PM (7ZVPa)
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I also really like Sayers' books. They require careful reading. I saw a couple of the shows they made from them and I didn't think they were all that.

But the books are great.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 03:43 PM (sBOL1)

385 ThunderB,
I have no idea either but apparently it's something in demand.
Vaginal rejuvenation.....yeah, I'm 29 but my vagina has been rejuvenated and it's only 18!

Posted by: lindarose on her phone at May 03, 2017 03:43 PM (Bk0n1)

386 When I see someone start a long paragraph talking about a mystery, I immediately skip over that post.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2017 03:35 PM (dFi94)

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like watching a Cubs game when you already know that they have lost.

Posted by: Eleanor R. at May 03, 2017 03:43 PM (h/uSM)

387

Whats extra nice is both Hillary and the FBI PAID for this dossier

Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2017 03:44 PM (qzt3j)

388

anyone like Jonathan Creek?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 03, 2017 03:44 PM (5FR1m)

389 Another good series is Dorothy Sayer's Lord Wimsey books.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 03, 2017 03:41 PM (7ZVPa)
=======================

I actually became quite smitten with Peter Wimsey. I think Dorothy L. Sayers did too. Read about that once. She walked away from the series and devoted the rest of her writings almost exclusively to Christian subjects. Apologetics, I think.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2017 03:44 PM (dFi94)

390 So she's a fluffer???

Posted by: andycanuck at May 03, 2017 03:44 PM (nlbfN)

391 Hundred billion bottles washed up on the shore

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 03, 2017 03:44 PM (IqV8l)

392 I love the Lord Peter Wimsey series-read them al numerous times.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 03, 2017 03:45 PM (fDdVG)

393 it should be called the Hand Job Tale, because the whole premise is an exercise in mutual masturbation.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at May 03, 2017 03:45 PM (kpBpD)

394 Interesting how the Susan Rice and Obama administration spying on their enemies including Trump has faded away.

The MSM engages in the Cloward Piven strategy to bury the crimes of their Uniparty Overlords. The mainstream conservative media plays along. They need to stop playing by their rules.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe, MGTOW at May 03, 2017 03:45 PM (2qHjF)

395 379 I'm pouring over primary results from Ballotpedia and financing numbers for the same races at followthemoney.org.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

You need the local ad buy costs by media and market for each district.
Posted by: Jean at May 03, 2017 03:43 PM (LpSwC)

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Definitely part of it, but I think overall costs of previous successful and unsuccessful primary challenges are a good place to start at least.

There are many more factors at play than just money, but it seems like if a challenger can at least match dollar for dollar with the incumbent, then they have an outside chance. 2:1 and 3:1 become surer and surer things.

Whether the money causes the victory or the conditions on the ground which would lead to victory anyway causes the money is another question as well. So, I'm hoping that my assumption that people can't name their state representatives and state senators is true.

Quick test: Can you name your state representative and state senator?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:45 PM (BjrOM)

396 Spoiling the end of a mystery can be a huge disappointment for people, I wouldn't downplay it so much. People like stories for different reasons, some are there for the process (like me) some for the characters, some for relationships, some for the final exciting conclusion where the detective reveals all. You can't just declare someone's favorite part of a story nonsense because it doesn't appeal to you in particular.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 03:45 PM (39g3+)

397 About mysteries: I've watched 'The Maltese Falcon' about 10+ times in the course of my life. Love that movie. It's a fair bet nobody cares who killed Archer, Jacobi and Thursby.

Posted by: troyriser at May 03, 2017 03:45 PM (Fw5cQ)

398 385 How you doin'?

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2017 03:46 PM (r/0kC)

399 Quick test: Can you name your state representative and state senator?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:45 PM (BjrOM)
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Ugh. I can, but then you'll have to pardon me while I run off and lose my lunch.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 03:46 PM (sBOL1)

400 like watching a Cubs game when you already know that they have lost.

Posted by: Eleanor R. at May 03, 2017 03:43 PM (h/uSM)
====================================

I know! I used to have to stick my fingers in my ears and tell people - "Don't tell me the score - I've got it recording!" But I don't have to do that anymore because now they don't lose.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2017 03:46 PM (dFi94)

401 I am a little surprised how the Republicans in the House and Senate are not getting a little pissed off that everyone in Washington is bitch-slapping them. I would think as some point they would get a little annoyed at being treated like after-thoughts.

Perhaps I am underestimating their desire to be liked...or perhaps underestimating the bodies they need to keep buried.

Posted by: JB1000 at May 03, 2017 03:47 PM (16OL0)

402 >>>300 Supposedly according to police, the more complicated and planned a murder, the easier it is to unravel. Its the random, "sudden act of passion by a traveling stranger" murders that they have the least chance of solving. I can see why, really.

sherlock holmes says this in his first story. When watson says 'it's baffling," Holmes says "No, it is merely strange. A man randomly run down by a carriage for no reason is baffling." Then he talks about the very specific (tho strange) circumstances of the death making it much easier to solve.

Posted by: ace at May 03, 2017 03:47 PM (8rNrN)

403 Spoiler:

42

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 03, 2017 03:48 PM (h/uSM)

404 "Interesting how the Susan Rice and Obama administration spying on their enemies including Trump has faded away."

Susan Rice testifies next week. So does Sally Yates. There's a connection, IMO

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 03, 2017 03:48 PM (SIY7D)

405 393 I've seen that movie.It held my attention for a few minutes ,than I lost interest.

Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2017 03:48 PM (r/0kC)

406 The Lord Peter books are wonderful and provide a fascinating look at the time between the wars. That and it's a great look at what was then called shell shock and would now be PTSD. Supposedly Sayers made him the second richest peer in the realm because it just saved so many problems with how he could afford to go running off hither and yon at will.

Horde, Horde, you Hoooorrrdddee.

Suddenly everything with Comey becomes clear:

http://bit.ly/2qzZ5c7

Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at May 03, 2017 03:48 PM (mf5HN)

407 391 Hundred billion bottles washed up on the shore
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 03, 2017 03:44 PM (IqV8l)

Sting's interview with Stern said he wrote that song about feeling lonely with so people around him and realizing that it was a feeling shared by a lot more people than just himself.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 03, 2017 03:48 PM (V+jJS)

408 >>Shonda Rimes is an executive producer on a lot of TV shows that are
chick-bait - Grey's Anatomy, Scandal, How To Get Away with Murder.

Also recently joined PP national board of directors, and has happily included pro-abortion storylines in her shows, such as the "Scandal" lead getting an abortion to the tune of "Slient Night". How's that for vaginal empowerment, ladies!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 03, 2017 03:48 PM (NOIQH)

409 Quick test: Can you name your state representative and state senator?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:45 PM (BjrOM)

Back in 2008 I was crapping on Obongo as hopelessly inexperienced to a liberal acquaintance, who in response bleated, "But he was a state senator!"

"Really? Who's OUR state senator?"

Crickets.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 03, 2017 03:48 PM (SRKgf)

410 40
Today's culture gripe: they're remaking Murder on the Orient Express,
and practicing "diversity casting" (Penelope Cruz as a Swede; Leslie
Odom Jr as a British major). -- which might make more sense if they were
updating the story. But apparently, they're not.

W. T. FUCK??

I just wish they would remake my "10 Little Indians" under it's original title, "Ten Little N-words". (look it up)

Posted by: Agatha Christie at May 03, 2017 03:49 PM (KeRkT)

411 it should be called the Hand Job Tale, because the whole premise is an exercise in mutual masturbation.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at May 03, 2017 03:45 PM (kpBpD)

Somebody, (hello author Morons and 'Ettes!) needs to write a near word-for-word parody of Handmaids Tale, resetting it as the story of a Yazidi woman held as a sex slave by ISIS.

Atwood had actually gone to Iran and observed the fate of Iranian women under the islamist regime, but I guess she lacked the guts to tell the story straight.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2017 03:49 PM (0deF2)

412 397 About mysteries: I've watched 'The Maltese Falcon' about 10+ times in the course of my life. Love that movie. It's a fair bet nobody cares who killed Archer, Jacobi and Thursby.
Posted by: troyriser at May 03, 2017 03:45 PM (Fw5cQ)

Sterling is dead? Oh my God, NO!!!!

Posted by: Mallory Archer at May 03, 2017 03:50 PM (0mRoj)

413 There are certain entertainment scenarios where puzzling out the ending is the point of the exercise. Not everything is Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2017 03:40 PM (dFi94)

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Now Clitty Clitty Gang Bang will keep you guessing right till the end.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 03, 2017 03:50 PM (h/uSM)

414 I know! I used to have to stick my fingers in my ears and tell people - "Don't tell me the score - I've got it recording!" But I don't have to do that anymore because now they don't lose.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2017 03:46 PM (dFi94)

Were I capable of human emotion, I would feel bad for what I just called you. Out loud even.

Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at May 03, 2017 03:51 PM (mf5HN)

415 Is it a mileage thing?

Per use thing?

Wear and tear?

Posted by: ThunderB at May 03, 2017 03:51 PM (qzt3j)

416 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:45 PM (BjrOM)

Mr Republican and Mr Other Republican

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 03, 2017 03:51 PM (V+jJS)

417 >>Atwood had actually gone to Iran and observed the fate of Iranian women
under the islamist regime, but I guess she lacked the guts to tell the
story straight.

And spent 2 weeks vacation in Afghanistan in the late 70's, going so far as to buy and wear a chador where she got to LARP the muslim experience.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 03, 2017 03:51 PM (NOIQH)

418 That fucking Starbucks Moscow has been a busy place.

Posted by: wth at May 03, 2017 03:51 PM (HgMAr)

419 409 Back in 2008 I was crapping on Obongo as hopelessly inexperienced to a liberal acquaintance, who in response bleated, "But he was a state senator!"

"Really? Who's OUR state senator?"

Crickets.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 03, 2017 03:48 PM (SRKgf)

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So, your incumbent, when he posts signs on the highway next election cycle, will it stand out any more than any other name?

That's ultimately my point: Most people don't know, and the incumbent's name is as unimportant to them as the challenger's name.

Another question that follows would be: How do people vote between two names that don't mean anything to them when they show up at the ballot box? Is it based on whichever name they saw most frequently on the highway to work everyday for a month?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:51 PM (BjrOM)

420 It's a fair bet nobody cares who killed Archer, Jacobi and Thursby.

None of them were very nice people. Jacobi was a smuggler, Archer was a cad, Thursby was a grifter. But none of them were as bad as the real killer, and the true story of the book is Sam Spade knowing pretty early on what is going on and struggling with himself over what to do about it. That seemingly unrelated story (left out of the film) about the man who went to Spokane to change his life then ended up exactly the same was his attempt to explain why he does what he does eventually: you'll never change, you'll always be this person, and I cannot trust you.

Its really a brilliant book.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 03:51 PM (39g3+)

421 I know! I used to have to stick my fingers in my ears and tell people - "Don't tell me the score - I've got it recording!" But I don't have to do that anymore because now they don't lose.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2017 03:46 PM (dFi94)

MLB.TV used to do that: "would you like to watch the Cardinals beat the Cubs 5-4 on a walkoff grand slam in the 10th inning?"

"No, not now I wouldn't. Thanks for ruining the game for me."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 03, 2017 03:51 PM (SRKgf)

422 >>> It's a fair bet nobody cares who killed Archer, Jacobi and Thursby.

well I know, because of the ending: "I won't play the sap for you."

Posted by: ace at May 03, 2017 03:51 PM (8rNrN)

423 Now Clitty Clitty Gang Bang will keep you guessing right till the end.
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 03, 2017 03:50 PM (h/uSM)

Something tells me it's a happy ending.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 03, 2017 03:51 PM (0mRoj)

424 399 Quick test: Can you name your state representative and state senator?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:45 PM (BjrOM)
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Ugh. I can, but then you'll have to pardon me while I run off and lose my lunch.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 03:46 PM (sBOL1)

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You're one of the freaks! Well, so am I. So at least I have wonderful company.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:52 PM (BjrOM)

425
Atwood had actually gone to Iran and observed the fate of Iranian women under the islamist regime, but I guess she lacked the guts to tell the story straight.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2017 03:49 PM

She saw what happened to Salman Rushdie.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 03, 2017 03:52 PM (IqV8l)

426 "Somebody, (hello author Morons and 'Ettes!) needs to write a near
word-for-word parody of Handmaids Tale, resetting it as the story of a
Yazidi woman held as a sex slave by ISIS."

Or remake "12 years a slave", except make it the story of a modern black African who is trying to get to Europe, except that he is captured by Arabs in modern day Libya.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 03, 2017 03:52 PM (KeRkT)

427 300. 'Strangers on a Train'

Criss-cross.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 03, 2017 03:53 PM (TwwWO)

428 Were I capable of human emotion, I would feel bad for what I just called you. Out loud even.

Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at May 03, 2017 03:51 PM (mf5HN)
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Hey - you're younger than me. You have your whole life in front of you. It'll happen. They're a good team. God kinda had to give me this one because I'm old as dirt and I have one foot out the door.

It'll happen. It will.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2017 03:53 PM (dFi94)

429 You're one of the freaks! Well, so am I. So at least I have wonderful company.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:52 PM (BjrOM)
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Well, thank you. We can throw up together, if yours are as bad as mine.

It's so liberal here that Republicans don't even bother to run most of the time. True story.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 03:53 PM (sBOL1)

430 Another question that follows would be: How do people vote between two names that don't mean anything to them when they show up at the ballot box? Is it based on whichever name they saw most frequently on the highway to work everyday for a month?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:51 PM (BjrOM)

For my part, I look at endorsements, but in a negative rather than a positive sense. If you're endorsed by the "Working Single Mothers for Peace, Justice and Bread" committee, take a hike. I know a Commie front when I see one.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 03, 2017 03:53 PM (SRKgf)

431 416 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:45 PM (BjrOM)

Mr Republican and Mr Other Republican
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 03, 2017 03:51 PM (V+jJS)

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Did you vote in the last primary that involved them?

Do you remember how you chose which name?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:53 PM (BjrOM)

432 is this the outsourced report that 17 national security and intelligence agencies relied on in issuing 17 coincidental HRC supporting intel reports?

They bandied this about as if there were 17 separate investigations.

Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at May 03, 2017 03:54 PM (55//3)

433

Back in 2008 I was crapping on Obongo as hopelessly inexperienced to a liberal acquaintance, who in response bleated, "But he was a state senator!"

"Really? Who's OUR state senator?"

Crickets.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 03, 2017 03:48 PM (SRKgf)

Most people can't name their congress critter or senators. Let alone the Vice President or 2 supremes.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 03, 2017 03:55 PM (Ri/rl)

434 Another question that follows would be: How do people vote between two names that don't mean anything to them when they show up at the ballot box? Is it based on whichever name they saw most frequently on the highway to work everyday for a month?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:51 PM (BjrOM)

The beginning part of The Distinguished Gentlemen is just brutal about this. Thomas Jefferson Johnson. The name you know.

Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at May 03, 2017 03:55 PM (mf5HN)

435 As soon as someone points out to Sessons that intent isn't the only reason to indict a person for breaking a law can DT fire his dumb ass?

Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2017 03:55 PM (Ot7+c)

436 You can't just declare someone's favorite part of a story nonsense because it doesn't appeal to you in particular.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 03:45 PM (39g3+)

It's not nonsense. Never said that. Just that the entire raison d'etre for a novel or movie is to entertain through process.

Anyway, don't look to me to be "that guy" who always posts "spoilers", because I probably have never read the book or seen the movie in question. Sure, I've read a lot of the classics, and you have too, but posting "whodunit" in the case of an Agatha Christie story is not exactly a spoiler, is it?

I just don't think it's that big a deal if the outcome of a movie or book is revealed prior to my seeing/reading it. Doesn't diminish the enjoyment.

Spoiler alert! Gollum bites the Ring off Frodo's finger, and then falls into the volcano.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2017 03:56 PM (0deF2)

437 I also really like Sayers' books. They require
careful reading. I saw a couple of the shows they made from them and I
didn't think they were all that.

But the books are great.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 03:43 PM

The 70s episodes with Ian Carmichael, or the 80s episodes with Edward Petherbridge?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 03, 2017 03:56 PM (p+Wdc)

438 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:53 PM (BjrOM)

I followed the recommendations of the Harris County Conservative Org. Admittedly I haven't a clue of the person's name now.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 03, 2017 03:56 PM (V+jJS)

439 >>"Somebody, (hello author Morons and 'Ettes!) needs to write a near

word-for-word parody of Handmaids Tale, resetting it as the story of a

Yazidi woman held as a sex slave by ISIS."

Excellent idea!

Or you could rent the Afghani movie "Osama" for something equally disturbing.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0368913/?ref_=nv_sr_3

Posted by: Lizzy at May 03, 2017 03:57 PM (NOIQH)

440 433 Most people can't name their congress critter or senators. Let alone the Vice President or 2 supremes.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 03, 2017 03:55 PM (Ri/rl)

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I'm bringing this all up because I think that it's within the realm of possibility to knock off the bottom 10% of a Republican caucus in a deep red state with something between $1 and $3 million.

Now, I don't have that money, obviously, but I wonder if it could be raised with that explicit object in mind. If I developed a plan, specific targets, and even possible challengers, could I get some kind of donor operation and Super PAC up and running to do it?

I'm focusing my research mostly on South Carolina right now, because I'm here, but it could really be targeted at almost any red state.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:57 PM (BjrOM)

441 I'm going to my grandkids' AWANA awards night tonight. 35 years of AWANA, between my kids and my wee ones. Tonight they'll get their little Cubby and Sparky badges, and I'll cry. Life is a sweet sweet thing, innit?

Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2017 03:57 PM (dFi94)

442 Spoiler Alert:

We all die

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 03, 2017 03:58 PM (h/uSM)

443 Ha! I knew there had to be a clip of just the campaign:

https://youtu.be/AXL7XSW4xHA

We're not going to show you Jeff Johnson . . . .

Also can you imagine the SJW freak out if you tried to do those bits now?

(For those who don't know, Eddie Murphy plays a con man with the same name as a long time Congresscritter who dies right before the election. So he runs based on name recognition)

Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at May 03, 2017 03:58 PM (mf5HN)

444 >>>ssics, and you have too, but posting "whodunit" in the case of an Agatha Christie story is not exactly a spoiler, is it?

it is for many, I think. I've read like 25 of her books-- out of 150! If there is some gem out there, and someone recommended it, I'd read it, and wouldn't like it spoiled.

Posted by: ace at May 03, 2017 03:58 PM (8rNrN)

445 438 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:53 PM (BjrOM)

I followed the recommendations of the Harris County Conservative Org. Admittedly I haven't a clue of the person's name now.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 03, 2017 03:56 PM (V+jJS)

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It's a better system than, "I recognize that name from that one sign."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:58 PM (BjrOM)

446 Im Carmichael was too old to0 play the part. He was a good actor-just too old, IMO.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 03, 2017 03:58 PM (fDdVG)

447 I'm focusing my research mostly on South Carolina right now, because I'm here, but it could really be targeted at almost any red state.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:57 PM (BjrOM)

I bet it could. Most people are sadly ill informed.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 03, 2017 03:59 PM (Ri/rl)

448 I've offered to do search and rescue at my local volunteer office. We are going to search the local farm fields tonight for any sign of Jeff Sessions.

Posted by: Max Power at May 03, 2017 03:59 PM (q177U)

449 Or remake "12 years a slave", except make it the story of a modern black African who is trying to get to Europe, except that he is captured by Arabs in modern day Libya.

you could detail how his sister is thrown into a harem and he's castrated to prevent any black children in Arabia. And how most of the slaves die on the trip to Arabia, because they mean nothing to the Arabs.

But its not 12 years, because nobody is ever set free and slavery never ends in Saudi Arabia. You could call it "died a slave."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 03:59 PM (39g3+)

450 442 Spoiler Alert:

We all die
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 03, 2017 03:58 PM (h/uSM)

Dammit, why'd you have to give it away?!

Posted by: Insomniac at May 03, 2017 03:59 PM (0mRoj)

451 The 70s episodes with Ian Carmichael, or the 80s episodes with Edward Petherbridge?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState

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I have seen the Carmichael ones, they are well done, but veer from the books now and again to shorten them, or to add in scenes that were implied but not written.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 03, 2017 03:59 PM (7ZVPa)

452 I'm talking about my State Representatives. I know who my Congressman and Senators are.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 03, 2017 03:59 PM (V+jJS)

453 I know! I used to have to stick my fingers in my ears and tell people - "Don't tell me the score - I've got it recording!" But I don't have to do that anymore because now they don't lose.

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then i won't spoil Mondays game for you

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 03, 2017 03:59 PM (h/uSM)

454 Another question that follows would be: How do people vote between two names that don't mean anything to them when they show up at the ballot box?
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I know that "any random potted fern" and "a very intelligent golden retriever" have pulled in many of my write-in votes over the years.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 03, 2017 04:00 PM (C52a9)

455 But you can agree that reading something for the first time is a unique experience from reading it a second time? That first time experience is a quality. Also if you forgot the ending which happens to me with the Sherlock Holmes stories.

Posted by: goodluckduck at May 03, 2017 04:00 PM (yqvys)

456
I've offered to do search and rescue at my local volunteer office. We
are going to search the local farm fields tonight for any sign of Jeff
Sessions.

Posted by: Max Power at May 03, 2017 03:59 PM (q177U)

He'll be having high tea in a four star hotel in DC. Either that, or meeting with his interior decorator.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2017 04:00 PM (PY9jH)

457 Remember that Barky got that state senate seat in Illinois b/c the commie woman who was in that seat was maybe kinda sorta tricked into running for a different office in order to open up that state senate seat for Barky.

Once the woman (Alice Palmer) figured out she wouldn't win the other seat she backtracked and tried to run for her old seat but Barky's peeps - including Bill Ayers who was in the process of launching Barky's career - kept her out.

Posted by: Boots at May 03, 2017 04:00 PM (EBwPV)

458 423 Now Clitty Clitty Gang Bang will keep you guessing right till the end.
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 03, 2017 03:50 PM (h/uSM)

Something tells me it's a happy ending.
Posted by: Insomniac

"Chittty Chitty Bang Bang" is the origin of break dancing! Seriously.

I revealed the entire tale about how this came about, in a comment about 2 months ago, but no way I could track that comment down now, nor do I have the time and gumption to rewrite the history all over again.

Short version: The guy who invented "popping and locking," the early '70s precursor of break-dancing and all hip-hop dance moves, said he was inspired by the body movements of "Sally Howes as a wind-up doll" scene at the insane conclusion of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. And that scene was choreographed by Dick van Dyke, who also (perhaps not coincidentally) invented the "moonwalk" in a 1960s comedy skit ("Trying to mail a letter in a windstorm.").

Posted by: zombie at May 03, 2017 04:01 PM (DQ4Fv)

459 Did you vote in the last primary that involved them?

Do you remember how you chose which name?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Incumbent v. non-incumbent.

Now? Incumbent loses out. I'm voting non-incumbent.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2017 04:01 PM (Njtx4)

460 Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at May 03, 2017 03:58 PM (mf5HN)

That's how wives of dead candidates can get elected.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 03, 2017 04:01 PM (V+jJS)

461 452 I'm talking about my State Representatives. I know who my Congressman and Senators are.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 03, 2017 03:59 PM (V+jJS)

I know who mine are too. I at least have a republican assemblyman here in deep blue Cali.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 03, 2017 04:01 PM (Ri/rl)

462 447 I'm focusing my research mostly on South Carolina right now, because I'm here, but it could really be targeted at almost any red state.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 03:57 PM (BjrOM)

I bet it could. Most people are sadly ill informed.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 03, 2017 03:59 PM (Ri/rl)

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Most red states aren't terribly conservative. The state parties are filled with big government guys and gals who want to control as much as many Democrats do. Small example: South Carolina gun laws are surprisingly tough, and the Republican State legislature keeps killing constitutional carry bills pretty much every year.

If we were to take out 7-8 House members and 2-3 senators, we could see a change in attitude from the rest, at least, especially if we replace them with people who would vote for it and won by saying that they'd vote for it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 04:01 PM (BjrOM)

463 450 442 Spoiler Alert:

We all die
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 03, 2017 03:58 PM (h/uSM)

Dammit, why'd you have to give it away?!
Posted by: Insomniac at May 03, 2017 03:59 PM (0mRoj)

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Just be glad i didn't spoil How You Die. Best to be surprised. What'd you do to God?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 03, 2017 04:01 PM (h/uSM)

464 The 70s episodes with Ian Carmichael, or the 80s episodes with Edward Petherbridge?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 03, 2017 03:56 PM (p+Wdc)
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I don't remember, it was a while ago, but probably the latter. Do you recommend either?

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 04:02 PM (sBOL1)

465 The beginning part of The Distinguished Gentlemen is just brutal about this. Thomas Jefferson Johnson. The name you know.

The worst part of that film is when he gets a conscience and starts being all activist. It was hilarious up to that point, great satire on politics. Then it just gets boring and typical.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 04:02 PM (39g3+)

466 454 Another question that follows would be: How do people vote between two names that don't mean anything to them when they show up at the ballot box?
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I know that "any random potted fern" and "a very intelligent golden retriever" have pulled in many of my write-in votes over the years.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 03, 2017 04:00 PM (C52a9)

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I laughed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 04:02 PM (BjrOM)

467 Will one of you smart morons please tell me how to mark all my emails as read on Windows 10?

Thnx.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2017 04:02 PM (PY9jH)

468 Incumbent v. non-incumbent.

Now? Incumbent loses out. I'm voting non-incumbent.
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Yep. For judges especially.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 03, 2017 04:02 PM (C52a9)

469 We all die

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 03, 2017 03:58 PM (h/uSM)
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You could name your kid Elijah. Or Thessalonians, the Second.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2017 04:02 PM (dFi94)

470 Incumbent v. non-incumbent.

Now? Incumbent loses out. I'm voting non-incumbent.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2017 04:01 PM (Njtx4)

Cleansing fire gets my vote. As well as the rope/lamppost ticket.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 03, 2017 04:02 PM (0mRoj)

471 Just be glad i didn't spoil How You Die. Best to be surprised. What'd you do to God?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 03, 2017 04:01 PM (h/uSM)

Nothing he didn't already do to me a thousand fold.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 03, 2017 04:03 PM (0mRoj)

472 But you can agree that reading something for the first time is a unique experience from reading it a second time?

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The re-read is for spotting all the clues and foreshadowing you missed 1st time around.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 03, 2017 04:03 PM (h/uSM)

473 Did you vote in the last primary that involved them?

Do you remember how you chose which name?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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are you looking for answers from just anyone? Because if you are, yes, and yes. For the second one, I look at their web pages and see what they have to say, and also look at what they don't say.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 04:04 PM (sBOL1)

474 I'm going to my grandkids' AWANA awards night tonight. 35 years of AWANA, between my kids and my wee ones. Tonight they'll get their little Cubby and Sparky badges, and I'll cry. Life is a sweet sweet thing, innit?
Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2017 03:57 PM (dFi94)

I'm a Meritorious Award holder and I still have my trophy from that. They didn't start Citation Award level until I was out of Awana. Heck, I still have my sash with all the pins and awards on it

Mommy just got her 40 year in Awana service pin.

Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at May 03, 2017 04:04 PM (mf5HN)

475 Pumping Iron Spoiler alert: Arnold wins

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 03, 2017 04:04 PM (eyi2X)

476 Afternoon everyone.

I never heard such stupidity in my life, The Ruskies are out enemies and have been rat fucking with us and our elections since the Tsars and it's only NOW the left discovered that? I mean they have been an accomplish all this time anyway?

This falls into the same stupidity category as thinking you can have no pre-existing conditions and expecting to lower premiums?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2017 04:04 PM (SjImc)

477 Another question that follows would be: How do people vote between two names that don't mean anything to them when they show up at the ballot box?
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People who know nothing about the candidates running - esp in a primary - tend not to vote. The people who show up are the ones delivered by their local political organization. And here in my hood it's not even for money or anything tangible. It's for the virtue signaling to ones' peers.

Posted by: Boots at May 03, 2017 04:04 PM (EBwPV)

478 "It's a fair bet nobody cares who killed Archer, Jacobi and Thursby"

All I remember is the words gunsel and dingus.

Posted by: goodluckduck at May 03, 2017 04:04 PM (yqvys)

479 469 We all die

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 03, 2017 03:58 PM (h/uSM)
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You could name your kid Elijah. Or Thessalonians, the Second.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2017 04:02 PM (dFi94)

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Valar Morghulis

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 04:04 PM (BjrOM)

480 And that scene was choreographed by Dick van Dyke, who also (perhaps not coincidentally) invented the "moonwalk" in a 1960s comedy skit ("Trying to mail a letter in a windstorm.").

Dick Van Dyke is a genuine comedic genius, he is so incredibly gifted and talented. Still going, and still a really nice guy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 04:04 PM (39g3+)

481
Do you use Outlook?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 03, 2017 04:04 PM (5FR1m)

482 Late to the party, but why does this jump from the fact that the in- the- bed- with Russian gangster fraudsters who cooked up the pee pee dossier to dump Trump were known frauds, to Comey dropping a mild insult on the DOJ? Am I missing a connection?

Posted by: LASue, now even more deplorable! at May 03, 2017 04:04 PM (CLKfs)

483 467
Will one of you smart morons please tell me how to mark all my emails as read on Windows 10?

Thnx.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 03, 2017 04:02 PM (PY9jH)

Cortana already did it for you.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 03, 2017 04:05 PM (GX63o)

484 Cleansing fire gets my vote. As well as the rope/lamppost ticket.

Ooooooooh. Cleansing Fire Party.

I like that.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2017 04:05 PM (Njtx4)

485 But you can agree that reading something for the first time is a unique experience from reading it a second time? That first time experience is a quality. Also if you forgot the ending which happens to me with the Sherlock Holmes stories.

Posted by: goodluckduck at May 03, 2017 04:00 PM (yqvys)

Well, I can guarandamntee you that if you told me the ending to one of the Harry Potter books, that I would forget that little nugget of information long before I ever got around to the extremely unlikely act of actually reading one. And even if I did remember it, if I found the book enjoyable, I'd continue reading it. Because the story is the thing. If outcomes are all that matters, try algebra.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2017 04:05 PM (0deF2)

486 Is there any agency of our "government" that isn't working on behalf of "enemies foreign and domestic" to screw America and its citizens ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at May 03, 2017 04:05 PM (KGH7Z)

487 473 are you looking for answers from just anyone? Because if you are, yes, and yes. For the second one, I look at their web pages and see what they have to say, and also look at what they don't say.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 04:04 PM (sBOL1)

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I am, thanks.

So, you're saying that incumbency holds no sway for you, which is good for my supposition that the lower you are in government, the less incumbency matters.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 04:05 PM (BjrOM)

488 Gross incompetence is a good reason to fire a FBI director isn't it?

Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2017 04:05 PM (Ot7+c)

489 Spoiler Alert: Hilary is the 45th president of the United States

Posted by: VOX at May 03, 2017 04:06 PM (h/uSM)

490 You could name your kid Elijah. Or Thessalonians, the Second.
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Tew Corinthians

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 03, 2017 04:06 PM (C52a9)

491 477 People who know nothing about the candidates running - esp in a primary - tend not to vote. The people who show up are the ones delivered by their local political organization. And here in my hood it's not even for money or anything tangible. It's for the virtue signaling to ones' peers.
Posted by: Boots at May 03, 2017 04:04 PM (EBwPV)

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I HAVE been thinking that most of this possible money would need to be spent on getting people to actually get to the polls.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 04:06 PM (BjrOM)

492 *NOOD Berkeley Snowflakes*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at May 03, 2017 04:07 PM (6gk0M)

493 317 Late to the game here. Can one of my (many) betters explain Ace's post to me in four sentences or less?
Posted by: Ladylibertarian
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So, basically, the dossier that was created by the British
"intelligence" agent and then used by Obama to justify a FISA warrant
against Trump et al. to investigate "Russia connections," was actually
created by a Russia front group?

Posted by: Alex #11 at May 03, 2017 03:23 PM (ka13S)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 03, 2017 03:30 PM (nlbfN)

Thank you!

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 03, 2017 04:07 PM (TdMsT)

494 Nood.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 03, 2017 04:07 PM (nlbfN)

495 Spoiler Alert. In "The Godfather", the mafia go out and kill people.

Posted by: dantesed at May 03, 2017 04:07 PM (88xKn)

496 So, you're saying that incumbency holds no sway for you, which is good for my supposition that the lower you are in government, the less incumbency matters.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 04:05 PM (BjrOM)
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It doesn't matter for me, but I'll bet it does for people who don't bother to read up on the candidates. I think that's how a lot of them get re-elected. People are lazy.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 04:07 PM (sBOL1)

497 You're welcome, Lady L.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 03, 2017 04:07 PM (nlbfN)

498 The worst part of that film is when he gets a conscience and starts being all activist. It was hilarious up to that point, great satire on politics. Then it just gets boring and typical.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 03, 2017 04:02 PM (39g3+)

Yeah, right up to the point it turns into Mr. Smith, it's brutal and hilarious. The name you know and we're not going to show you Jeff Johnson bits are fantastic.

Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at May 03, 2017 04:07 PM (mf5HN)

499 En fuego!

Posted by: That Guy who shouts "En Fuego!" at May 03, 2017 04:07 PM (DMUuz)

500 You know who needs a primary challenger?

SMOD - all promises no genocide.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 03, 2017 04:08 PM (h/uSM)

501 488 Gross incompetence is a good reason to fire a FBI director isn't it?
Posted by: Skip

Hey! Referencing the topic of the original post in any comment after #300 violates The Rules of Conduct around here!

See Rule #17:

"17. Once a thread goes off-topic, it stays off-topic."

Posted by: zombie at May 03, 2017 04:08 PM (DQ4Fv)

502 Nood! (for real this time.)

Posted by: makatta at May 03, 2017 04:08 PM (Y7Qzg)

503 Most red states aren't terribly conservative. The state parties are filled with big government guys and gals who want to control as much as many Democrats do. Small example: South Carolina gun laws are surprisingly tough, and the Republican State legislature keeps killing constitutional carry bills pretty much every year.

If we were to take out 7-8 House members and 2-3 senators, we could see a change in attitude from the rest, at least, especially if we replace them with people who would vote for it and won by saying that they'd vote for it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 04:01 PM (BjrOM)

They all go back on their word. If they lost their cushy sinecures maybe the rest would take note.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 03, 2017 04:08 PM (Ri/rl)

504 I I'm a Meritorious Award holder and I still have my
trophy from that. They didn't start Citation Award level until I was
out of Awana. Heck, I still have my sash with all the pins and awards
on it

Mommy just got her 40 year in Awana service pin.

Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at May 03, 2017 04:04 PM (mf5HN)
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You just made my day, ATC. Seriously. I have tears in my eyes.

Way back in the day, I started an AWANA group for special needs kids. Every week, this kid Jason would come. He was autistic. He'd say, I hate you Mrs. X. I hate you Mrs. X. I hate you Mrs. X. Then, I love you, Mrs. X. Every week.

I love AWANA. Tell your mom Hi from me.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 03, 2017 04:09 PM (dFi94)

505 You know who needs a primary challenger?

SMOD - all promises no genocide.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90

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All Dead Inside and Medically Induced Coma gave him a helluva primary in 2012

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 03, 2017 04:09 PM (C52a9)

506 496 So, you're saying that incumbency holds no sway for you, which is good for my supposition that the lower you are in government, the less incumbency matters.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 04:05 PM (BjrOM)
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It doesn't matter for me, but I'll bet it does for people who don't bother to read up on the candidates. I think that's how a lot of them get re-elected. People are lazy.
Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 04:07 PM (sBOL1)

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Looking through the numbers in regards to money and votes, it seems like as long as the challenger is on parity, he gets within spitting distance at least.

It's all name recognition, and since most people don't walk in knowing the names of the incumbents, it becomes a game of whoever gets their name out most. I think.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 04:09 PM (BjrOM)

507 Old Yeller gets it in the end!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 03, 2017 04:09 PM (kTF2Z)

508 484 Cleansing fire gets my vote. As well as the rope/lamppost ticket.

Ooooooooh. Cleansing Fire Party.

I like that.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2017 04:05 PM (Njtx4)

I'm voting Pitchforks & Tar & Feather Party myself.
Nothing says change like ritual humiliation and death!

Posted by: Iblis at May 03, 2017 04:10 PM (9221z)

509 How can Comey straght-faced call the FBI investigation "thorough" when we know that Huma frequently forwarded classified material from her email/computer to her home computer shared with Carlos Danger?

That seems like a pretty easy chain of evidence to follow...

Posted by: LASue, now even more deplorable! at May 03, 2017 04:10 PM (CLKfs)

510 This isn't a mystery but I've watched The Great Escape many times. I know the majority of POWs get shot, Steve McQueen and James Garner are recaptured but survive and Charles Bronson and James Cobourn survive and the guy from The Man from U.N.C.L.E gets shot and dies on railroad tracks.
But I will watch again.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 03, 2017 04:10 PM (hJrjt)

511 503 They all go back on their word. If they lost their cushy sinecures maybe the rest would take note.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 03, 2017 04:08 PM (Ri/rl)

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I'm beginning to think that my theory may be sound.

I may want to try drawing up something resembling a proposal and seeing who I can shop it to.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 03, 2017 04:11 PM (BjrOM)

512 do we have to go to the nood thread?

I think I am experiencing thread anxiety...

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 03, 2017 04:11 PM (C52a9)

513 HIS WIFE IS REALLY A MAN!!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 03, 2017 04:11 PM (KeRkT)

514 The 70s episodes with Ian Carmichael, or the 80s episodes with Edward Petherbridge?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 03, 2017 03:56 PM (p+Wdc)

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I don't remember, it was a while ago, but probably the latter. Do you recommend either?

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 04:02 PM

I'm partial to the 70s, but I agree with FenelonSpoke. Carmichael did the character well, but he was a little too old for it. Petherbridge had the right age and look. A combination of Carmichael's character and Petherbridge's appearance would have been perfect, imho.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 03, 2017 04:12 PM (p+Wdc)

515 I think I am experiencing thread anxiety...
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 03, 2017 04:11 PM (C52a9)
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Come sit ovah heah with me, sugah. We can mosey over togethah.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 04:12 PM (sBOL1)

516 Thanks, RMBS. I'll take a look at them both. Maybe I didn't give it a fair shake.

Or maybe it's that I loved the books so much that I was disappointed that they didn't seem to translate as well as the Campion ones did.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2017 04:13 PM (sBOL1)

517 We all die

Prove it.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 03, 2017 04:17 PM (B+qrE)

518 We all die

Prove it.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 03, 2017 04:17 PM (B+qrE)

anytime

Posted by: Fransisco Franco at May 03, 2017 05:00 PM (SjImc)

519 Red Ron Dellums is name I haven't heard in years.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 03, 2017 05:05 PM (QQ+il)

520 Read Red Notice: A True Story of High Finance, Murder, One Man's Fight for Justice by Bill Browder. It's a great book that gives more information behind this including the fight to get the Global Magnitsky Act.

Posted by: Rgallegos at May 03, 2017 10:41 PM (59GQk)

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