Monday Overnight Open Thread (5/1/17) May Day Edition

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Positive Monday Night Attitude


Quotes of The Day


Quote I

If it’s one of these things that is going to ultimately bring about some unintended consequences ... look, I'm nervous about the minimum wage because when we raise it to hurry up to get to an endpoint, it’s like that whack-a-mole game—something else pops up somewhere else. It’s like rent control.
I want an environment where the companies that are most responsible for hiring are dramatically encouraged by the market to keep the business here, and if we get ahead of ourselves and make it by fiat or some kind of mandate, I just figure that mole’s gonna pop up out of another hole and we’re gonna have to whack it. Mike Rowe


Quote II

We have the wealthiest societies in human history - countries like Norway and New Zealand - that can't project power to their own borders. And we have basket-case states, like North Korea, which has an all but undetectable GDP. But it's a nuclear power.

Sooner or later if North Korea's nuclear, if Sudan goes nuclear, if Yemen goes nuclear, and all the rich countries spend nothing defending themselves, the world will collapse. Mark Steyn


Quote III

We rolled the dice with the future of this country, And I think it’s going to come up snake eyes. Pat Buchanan


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A startling revelation by the U.K, There are 6,000-10,000 jihadists roaming about the country.

“Activity continues around the clock to identify and stop these threats,” said Basu, before his shocking admission that “we are making arrests on a near daily basis”.

Good and bad news The ONT guesses.


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The difference between a "Plumbing Degree" and a "Gender Studies Degeree" Initiative and grit.

“Traditionally, vocational subjects have attracted students considered to be of low ability, or who are looking for an easy qualification. But my students, past and present, are passionate, committed, and deserve every chance to be successful in whichever subjects they choose. Students who take vocational subjects have a clear idea of the path they wish to take. They know what they want to do once they leave the comfort of compulsory education.”


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Did you ever own an ugly car? No, not one full of rust and Bondo, but A truly ugly car. The 10 ugliest cars of all time. Or at least somebody's opinion.

Funny how AMC was the winner. Their predecessor Rambler made nice cars.


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Clean, wholesome Sweden not so angelic after all. Largest mosque in Sweden damaged by arson.

Sweden’s largest Shiite mosque, which has thousands of members, has been badly damaged by a raging fire in the northern Stockholm suburb of JakobsFerg, in what police suspect was an arson attack.


The fire at the Imam Ali Islamic Center appears to have started in the building’s facade Monday overnight. The blaze was first reported shortly after 11pm on Sunday. Police suspect it was set intentionally. Swedish intelligence agency Sapo was immediately informed, as is routine when a mosque is involved.

“Apparently, it [fire] started from the outside,” Lars Bystrom, a press spokesman for the Stockholm Police, said, as cited by the Swedish daily Aftenposten.


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The ONT is not trying to be political. The GOP continues to let us down, Obamacare repeal, Continuing Budget Resolutions. But, hey!!! On the bright side of things, Hillary Clinton, is not POTUS.

‘What’s going on in your camp?’ an Obama aide, David Simas, asked Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook.

‘I don’t think we’re going to win,’ Mook replied.

'I don’t think you are either,' Simas agreed. 'POTUS doesn’t think it’s wise to drag this out.'

Now Mook had to tell his boss that Obama was interested in a smooth transfer of power to his successor, Trump, and that Clinton needed to give up any last-ditch hopes that the swing states would somehow flip for her.

‘I don’t see how you win this,’ Mook told Clinton.

'I understand,' she told Mook.


The smirk and schadenboner still exist.

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Equal opportunity offender, Bill Maher strikes again.


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Roger Goodell, NFL Commish, consistently inconsistent. Marijuana is bad, bad and bad.

We look at it from a medical standpoint. So if people feel that it has a medical benefit, the medical advisers have to tell you that. We have joint advisers, we also have independent advisers, both the NFLPA and the NFL, and we’ll sit down and talk about that. But we’ve been studying that through our advisers. To date, they haven’t said this is a change we think you should make that’s in the best interests of the health and safety of our players. If they do, we’re certainly going to consider that. But to date, they haven’t really said that.


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You envision carjacking as a crime in a bad neighborhood. Hell you can be carjacked while in the convenience of your own home.

Many high-end cars now use a keyless start system, which means they can be unlocked simply by having a fob nearby.
The fobs contain computer chips and security codes that are detected by a computer inside the car.
Once the fob has been recognised as being close by, the driver can start the car’s engine with just the press of a button.

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Could childhood depression be reduced if we let the children play?

Gray, who is the author of the 2016 Free to Learn: Why Unleashing the Instinct to Play Will Make Our Children Happier, More Self-Reliant, and Better Students for Life, says that a cultural shift towards a more interventionist approach to child rearing is having dire consequences. "Over the same period of time that there has been a gradual decline in play," he told Reason's Nick Gillespie, "there are well documented, gradual, but ultimately huge increases in a variety of mental disorders in childhood—especially depression and anxiety."


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They might talk with funny accents, eh. But our neighbors to the North are Pro-America.


Canadian hockey fans sang the "Star-Spangled Banner" at the second round of the Stanley Cup playoffs on Sunday when microphone malfunctions prevented the singer from being heard.

Country singer Brett Kissel was meant to sing the American national anthem before the Anaheim Ducks were to face off against the Edmonton Oilers for the third game of the second round of the Stanley Cup playoffs. Though he tried, Kissel's microphone would not work properly.


Edmonton? Do we blame or thank Vendette?


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The ONT Musical Interlude



Actually it feels like a day in November. Nevertheless, a nice song for this 1st day of May.

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May 1, 1939, Born on this day, Judy Collins, US singer, (1968 US No. 8 & 1970 UK No.14 single 'Both Sides Now'). via thisdayinmusic.com

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Wasting time is psychologically important.


There will always be an endless list of chores to complete and work to do, and a culture of relentless productivity tells us to get to it right away and feel terribly guilty about any time wasted. But the truth is, a life spent dutifully responding to emails is a dull one indeed. And “wasted” time is, in fact, highly fulfilling and necessary.

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During WWI there was such a shortage of cotton, doctors were afraid of running out of bandages. Creativity led to the use of Moss as a bandage.

What were the Allied Powers to do? A Scottish surgeon-and-botanist duo had an idea: stuff the wounds full of moss.

Yes, moss, the plant. Also known as sphagnum, peat moss thrives in cold, damp climates like those of the British Isles and northern Germany. Today, this tiny, star-shaped plant is known for its use in horticulture and biofuel, not to mention its starring role in preserving thousands-year-old "bog bodies" like the Tollund Man, which Smithsonian Magazine revisited last month. But humans have also used it for at least 1,000 years to help heal their injuries.

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OUCH, that is going to leave a mark!


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There is no such thing as 'Stand Your Comb Laws' but there is a Genius Award Winner.


When dreams come true. Tonight's Feel Good Story of The Day.


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Comments

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1 Who's your Daddy?

It's me, isn't it?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at May 01, 2017 09:54 PM (6gk0M)

2 Hello!

Posted by: lindarose at May 01, 2017 09:54 PM (kufk0)

3 Howdy, ya'll.

Posted by: Country Singer at May 01, 2017 09:55 PM (GUBah)

4 6th.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 01, 2017 09:56 PM (CNHr1)

5 Top 10

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 01, 2017 09:56 PM (89T5c)

6 ok.. 4th.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 01, 2017 09:56 PM (CNHr1)

7 Miss me yet?

Oh, and have I ever mentioned my father was a mailman?

Posted by: John Kasich at May 01, 2017 09:56 PM (DMUuz)

8 Doc Emrick could make the tax code sound thrilling.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at May 01, 2017 09:57 PM (FOnk+)

9 You Will Be Made To Care

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 01, 2017 09:57 PM (tHwdc)

10 Miss me yet?

How can we miss you if you never go away?

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at May 01, 2017 09:58 PM (+QhzW)

11 8 Doc Emrick could make the tax code sound thrilling.


You should've heard him call my prostrate biopsy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 01, 2017 10:00 PM (voOPb)

12 How the fuck does slap keep doing that?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 01, 2017 10:00 PM (hscyr)

13 Judy Collins. Ugh

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 01, 2017 10:02 PM (oAY8z)

14 How the fuck does slap keep doing that?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 01, 2017 10:00 PM (hscyr)


There's a monkey on crack with an F5 addiction theory going around!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 01, 2017 10:02 PM (gwPgz)

15 It's ewe, baby.

Posted by: Achmed Powers international imam of mystery at May 01, 2017 10:02 PM (IqV8l)

16 Who put up all that content? It'll be 4 am before I get through it all.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 01, 2017 10:03 PM (lwiT4)

17 If this dude doesn't stop trying to breast feed me, I'm going to peck his nipples right off.

Posted by: The Chicken at May 01, 2017 10:03 PM (iMxBJ)

18 Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 01, 2017 10:02 PM (oAY8z)

Got you to comment

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 01, 2017 10:03 PM (voOPb)

19 I really really like the link about letting children play. Thanks for that MisHum

Posted by: grammie winger at May 01, 2017 10:04 PM (lwiT4)

20 Victims of Communism Day, 2017

Today is Victims of Communism Day. It is also "May Day," where "useful idiots" march and demonstrate in free countries, while those who have to actually live under Communism are made to march lest they face dire consequences.

http://politicalhat.com/?p=13373

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 01, 2017 10:04 PM (vBeA5)

21 In other news, Canadians know the American National Anthem.

Posted by: Splunge at May 01, 2017 10:04 PM (iMxBJ)

22 So ... there's this chic at the gym, she's totally into me, but I think she's got a mustache and she lives in a car ...

... should I get an engagement ring, or just ask her to elope ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 01, 2017 10:05 PM (fiGNd)

23 19 I really really like the link about letting children play. Thanks for that MisHum
Posted by: grammie winger at May 01, 2017 10:04 PM (lwiT4)

Definitely. Kids don't get to play enough. Even recess gets structured these days. It's insane.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 01, 2017 10:05 PM (0mRoj)

24 Clean, wholesome Sweden not so angelic after all. Largest mosque in Sweden damaged by arson.

Maybe the fire was set by someone who had a family member raped. I'm not in favor of people engaging in vigilante justice. But it is the job of the government to protect its citizens, and Sweden has been doing a piss poor job of protecting women and girls from rapists Sooner or later people will get fed up. It's called "a lesson in life".

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 01, 2017 10:06 PM (+lVUW)

25 Nice mosque dere in Sverige. Shame if aniting happen tooo it. Uff da.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 01, 2017 10:06 PM (lwiT4)

26 When I log in to PayPal, or my bank, or work-related stuff, I get a one-time code on my phone, or a little card, and enter it.

When I open my garage door, I go inside and turn a switch and press a button, because criminals could easily open it otherwise.

This seems fixable.

Posted by: Splunge at May 01, 2017 10:07 PM (iMxBJ)

27 In re: the national anthem, all respect to our Canuckistani Frostback brethren in the Horde. I've only ever been to Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, and Victoria/Esquimalt, but they were all beautiful and full of friendly people. Plus, you gave us The Kids In The Hall. Hat's off, y'all.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2017 10:07 PM (8nWyX)

28 I'm surprised there hasn't been more backlash in Germany. France, of course, not at all surprised that they lay down like doormats.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 01, 2017 10:07 PM (+lVUW)

29 21 In other news, Canadians know the American National Anthem.


And Americans know the Canadian National Anthem: A modern day warrior, Mean mean stride, Today's Tom Sawyer, mean, mean pride.

Thats it, right?

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 01, 2017 10:07 PM (pY+s4)

30 ... should I get an engagement ring, or just ask her to elope ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 01, 2017 10:05 PM (fiGNd)


Don't buy the cow, or dog, as the case may be.

Posted by: Sage Advice at May 01, 2017 10:07 PM (2DT4P)

31 From the last thread - people ask if these folks are sane or just stupid, or what, exactly. That's an exercise for the reader to decide, but there is a method to the madness. A couple quotes I saved. The first possibly from here at AOS, shamelessly lifted. You know who you are, If I don't.

"The backbone of the progressive power structure is the broken family, for only a child raised without benefit of a home life would be so susceptible to being lead against the laws of nature."

"In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to." (Theodore Dalrymple)


Posted by: Common Tater at May 01, 2017 10:08 PM (Mw7bJ)

32 Hey everybody.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2017 10:09 PM (qazQh)

33
In other news, Canadians know the American National Anthem.
Posted by: Splunge



https://youtu.be/ye7s4ybA7h4

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 01, 2017 10:09 PM (IqV8l)

34 Clean, wholesome Sweden not so angelic after all. Largest mosque in Sweden damaged by arson.


My give-a-fuck-ometer is at zero.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 01, 2017 10:10 PM (0mRoj)

35 Did you ever own an ugly car? No, not one full of rust and Bondo, but A truly ugly car. The 10 ugliest cars of all time.

That list is mostly good ... but they left out the Smart Car and the PT Cruiser ... and there are a few other box cars that are pretty much the ugliest things tooling around on the road.

And I would have to say that Jaguar has left its old, beautiful lines and has gone into serious competition for producing the ugliest sedan in the world.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2017 10:10 PM (zc3Db)

36 Yup, they sang it without lyrics on the screen.


Because of today:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otGhTszcS3s

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:10 PM (Cviw2)

37 "The Maple Leaf Forever" is damn good too. With the original lyrics, not the PC sludge it's saddled with now.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at May 01, 2017 10:10 PM (+QhzW)

38 What's up, qdpsteve?

Posted by: Insomniac at May 01, 2017 10:10 PM (0mRoj)

39 Is that map on a Bonneville? My knowledge of vintage Triumph gas tanks is limited.

Posted by: Old Greaser at May 01, 2017 10:11 PM (2DT4P)

40 Insomniac, glad you ask. Was about to share re that.

Anybody else ever have a dream of longing for someone, some serious time after (a) they've left your life and (b) you thought you were finally getting over them?

My brain did that to me last night. Damn it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2017 10:12 PM (qazQh)

41 Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:10 PM (Cviw2)

Oh oh

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 01, 2017 10:12 PM (voOPb)

42 It snowed today here in northern WI. May 1st. Snow. Fuck.

Posted by: davidt at May 01, 2017 10:12 PM (XoldI)

43 May Day in Sweden is the only Swedish holiday not tied to the Christian calendar. They do the whole May Pole thing. It's kind of pretty. Until the communists show up with their North Korea flags, like they did today.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 01, 2017 10:12 PM (lwiT4)

44 Did you ever own an ugly car? No, not one full of rust and Bondo, but A truly ugly car. The 10 ugliest cars of all time.

No, but it was a near thing. I once thought the Pacer was attractive. Distinctive. Futuristic. Like it would have fit in, on the UFO show. I could have easily wound up driving one.

Since then, I have never seen an ugliest car list that did not have the Pacer on it. I still have a soft spot for it. It's...different.

Posted by: Splunge at May 01, 2017 10:13 PM (iMxBJ)

45 Nice mosque dere in Sverige. Shame if aniting happen tooo it. Uff da.


Posted by: grammie winger at May 01, 2017 10:06 PM (lwiT4)

Jag anar ugglor i mossen...

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 01, 2017 10:13 PM (tHwdc)

46 Hello Horde, and Thank You, MisHum, for another delectable ONT.

I've been offline (mostly) since last Thursday; long (but good) story.

Brief Baby Sister Update:

No new news, but she did get to spend the day at the park with a friend enjoying fresh air and sunshine. Hope to have treatment news soon.

Please pray for her renewed strength.

To my fellow, beloved Hordelings, thank you all in advance for your prayers and well-wishes for my sister and our family.

Posted by: ibguy at May 01, 2017 10:13 PM (vUcdz)

47 The Pens finally scored but its 1:25 left in the 3rd. The Caps should hold on. They played better tonight. Good coaching decision to cross check Sid Crosby's head with a hockey stick. Hell, they might even win the series now.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 01, 2017 10:13 PM (pY+s4)

48 Roger Goodell, NFL Commish, consistently inconsistent. Marijuana is bad, bad and bad.

LOL. Weed never should have been the NFL's concern. It's certainly not a performance enhancing drug. individual teams should be able to penalize pot-smoker players because they are hurting their performance and not fulfilling the obligations of their contracts - to play to their best abilities. But, other than that sports orgs have no business saying boo about pot smoking.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2017 10:13 PM (zc3Db)

49 Sooner or later if North Korea's nuclear, if Sudan goes nuclear, if Yemen goes nuclear, and all the rich countries spend nothing defending themselves, the world will collapse
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Actually, no.

Only the first world countries that don't have a nice big budget for a military and are doing stupid things should be worried.

I'm looking at you Norway, Greece, Sweden, Belgium, Denmark, Finland and Austria.

US, Canada, Russia, China, UK, India and Japan will totes be fine. Unless their politicians make stupid decisions.

Posted by: shibumi at May 01, 2017 10:14 PM (8zWAk)

50 Anybody else ever have a dream of longing for someone, some serious time after (a) they've left your life and (b) you thought you were finally getting over them?

My brain did that to me last night. Damn it.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2017 10:12 PM (qazQh)

Honestly, not that I can recall. I've dreamt of finding love, then waking up feeling miserable. Sucks either way.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 01, 2017 10:14 PM (0mRoj)

51 My give-a-fuck-ometer is at zero.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 01, 2017 10:10 PM (0mRoj)

Mine is pegged at -∞

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 01, 2017 10:14 PM (gwPgz)

52
It snowed today here in northern WI. May 1st. Snow. Fuck.


Posted by: davidt at May 01, 2017 10:12 PM (XoldI)
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Yes, pretty dreary down here in the SE corner too. Sleet and rain. I can't remember what the sun looks like. On the other hand, yesterday we drove past some farms with baby sheep and little calves on the hillside. It was lovely, even in the rain.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 01, 2017 10:14 PM (lwiT4)

53 Oh oh

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 01, 2017 10:12 PM (voOPb)


You didn't think I'd be here?

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:14 PM (Cviw2)

54 You envision carjacking as a crime in a bad neighborhood. Hell you can be carjacked while in the convenience of your own home.

Just wait until they push self-driving cars out. They are going to be a carjacker's dream come true. You can stop them on the road with a couple of pieces of cardboard or a bed sheet and then do what you want with them.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2017 10:15 PM (zc3Db)

55 Oops! The Pens just tied it up.

OT.

I forgot. Its the Caps vs Pens, in the playoffs. A history of horror for the Caps

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 01, 2017 10:15 PM (pY+s4)

56 Unless their politicians make stupid decisions.

Posted by: shibumi at May 01, 2017 10:14 PM (8zWAk)


Wow, that takes a load off my mind!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 01, 2017 10:15 PM (gwPgz)

57 In other news, Canadians know the American National Anthem.

Posted by: Splunge
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Well duh. They're America's hat. It's their job to know things like the American National Anthem.

We give them culture, and they give us Rush and Brian Adams. And their subliminal hate is reflected by the gift of Justin Bieber.

Posted by: shibumi at May 01, 2017 10:15 PM (8zWAk)

58 Insomniac, hmm.

I've kind of given up too I guess.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2017 10:16 PM (qazQh)

59 "How the fuck does slap keep doing that?"
-Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 01, 2017 10:00 PM (hscyr)

Step #1. Post a comment on the previous thread. Cut it.

Step#2. Scroll down a few notches, so as to expose the "comments" link.

Step #3. Paste and hit "post".

I'm a "giver". I also don't mind competition.

Love you, Horde!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at May 01, 2017 10:16 PM (6gk0M)

60 57 We give them culture, and they give us Rush and Brian Adams. And their subliminal hate is reflected by the gift of Justin Bieber.
Posted by: shibumi at May 01, 2017 10:15 PM (8zWAk)


Now that's just hurtful.

Posted by: Millions of Board-Feet of Softwood Lumber at May 01, 2017 10:17 PM (iMxBJ)

61 Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:14 PM (Cviw2)

Wasn't sure
And
Caps choking

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 01, 2017 10:17 PM (voOPb)

62
Unless their politicians make stupid decisions.


Posted by: shibumi at May 01, 2017 10:14 PM (8zWAk)


Wow, that takes a load off my mind!
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Yes... but we have room for some bad decisions.

Our military spending is 4 TIMES that of number 2, which is China.

http://www.globalfirepower.com/defense-spending-budget.asp

Posted by: shibumi at May 01, 2017 10:17 PM (8zWAk)

63
US, Canada, Russia, China, UK, India and Japan will totes be fine. Unless their politicians make stupid decisions.
Posted by: shibumi


So, not fine then?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 01, 2017 10:17 PM (IqV8l)

64 Funny how AMC was the winner.

They had a knack.

Not pictured: AMC Ambassador.

Posted by: t-bird at May 01, 2017 10:17 PM (9Q5BJ)

65 Anybody else ever have a dream of longing for someone, some serious time
after (a) they've left your life and (b) you thought you were finally
getting over them?

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oh me oh my oh yes indeed.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 01, 2017 10:18 PM (lwiT4)

66 Oh, and Windsor. Used to go there a bit. Had nothing to do with the 19 year old drinking age and the nice bars at all, swearsies.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2017 10:18 PM (8nWyX)

67 Maybe the viking was just dormant , not dead .
Mosque burns .
This is a feel good story , right ?

Posted by: awkward davies at May 01, 2017 10:19 PM (JsMw3)

68 That cross-check on Crosby was bullshit. I can't find an update on his condition ( not watching game right now).

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 01, 2017 10:19 PM (89T5c)

69 58 Insomniac, hmm.

I've kind of given up too I guess.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2017 10:16 PM (qazQh)

I'm trying to learn to embrace the suck. Or at least resign myself to it.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 01, 2017 10:19 PM (0mRoj)

70 Watching the Spurs and Rockets. So far San Antonio's looking like roadkill on the I-10

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 01, 2017 10:19 PM (0F26Z)

71 "I'm not in favor of people engaging in vigilante justice. But it is the job of the government to protect its citizens, and Sweden has been doing a piss poor job"

Years ago it was de rigeur for the Right People to throw in the phrase "the social contract" whenever the limits or role of government in people's lives and such was being discussed.
But a contract is defined, by definition, as between two or more willing parties. It can't be coerced, or done through fraudulent means. And when one party fails to live up to the terms... Well so much for the "contract." Of course I knew none of this in High School, when some stupid bint brought all this up in class. I do recall she called us all Bourgeois, and meant it. In High School. In Iowa.

Anyhoo, what's jaw dropping is the institutional memory is beiing lost, or has been lost on just what the role of police really is. People like to talk about "protecting the community", but one of the very real roles of the police is to protect criminals from the enraged citizenry. Once a certain critical mass of otherwise everyday normal folks get a case of the ass and sez "Fuck It", that genie ain't goin' back in the bottle. Nobody will be able to stop it. Not saying I like it.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 01, 2017 10:19 PM (Mw7bJ)

72 Step #4. As has been mentioned, Hit "refresh" like a Crack-Addled monkey.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at May 01, 2017 10:20 PM (6gk0M)

73 Insomniac, oh and this dream had a soundtrack. Here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es4Wy9q2AO4

I kind of like the song, but can completely understand that some people hate it. Stereo Review used to call Bread's genre "wimp rock" back in the 1980s, LOL.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2017 10:20 PM (qazQh)

74 The Canucks also gave us last Saturday's blizzard, the motherfuckers.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 01, 2017 10:20 PM (0F26Z)

75 A startling revelation by the U.K, There are 6,000-10,000 jihadists roaming about the country.

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A quarter of them are in the government, and another quarter of them work at the BBC.

Posted by: RKae at May 01, 2017 10:20 PM (i3rHh)

76 It can be argued that Canada is a paradise on Earth, if you ignore their weird ideas about bacon.

Good food, nice cities, plenty of land. Where else can you walk into any bar and know that you will not get punched, unless you insult Wayne Gretzky?

Posted by: Splunge at May 01, 2017 10:20 PM (iMxBJ)

77 Posted by: shibumi at May 01, 2017 10:17 PM (8zWAk)

If we recognized "L'audace, l'audace, toujours l'audace!" as a guiding principle, perhaps.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 01, 2017 10:20 PM (gwPgz)

78 Who needs a map?

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2017 10:20 PM (f7W3D)

79 grammie winger, thanks. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2017 10:21 PM (qazQh)

80
The Toyota Mirai is the Lena Dunham of automobiles.

Warning- cannot be unseen:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jvvq3hw

Posted by: keep the eyebleach link handy at May 01, 2017 10:22 PM (wpC7C)

81 Anybody else ever have a dream of longing for someone, some serious time after (a) they've left your life and (b) you thought you were finally getting over them?

No, my dreams too often are going back to something I hated and was happy to put behind me (e.g. grad school, my postdoc in England)

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at May 01, 2017 10:22 PM (FOnk+)

82 Canadian bacon = back bacon.

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:22 PM (Cviw2)

83 >>That cross-check on Crosby was bullshit.


It was nowhere near intentional.

It was a 5 minute minor at most.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2017 10:22 PM (f7W3D)

84 Judy Collins! Born in Seattle, WA!

Posted by: RKae at May 01, 2017 10:22 PM (i3rHh)

85 Kodos, hmm.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2017 10:22 PM (qazQh)

86 'I understand,' she told Mook.

I think it was more like "AAAARRRGHH EEEEEEIIIYYEEE! (*hic*)!!!', she told Mook.

Posted by: t-bird at May 01, 2017 10:22 PM (hBig8)

87 We pioneered the glass can.

Posted by: Corning Glassworks, Inc. at May 01, 2017 10:22 PM (ZO497)

88 The Canucks also gave us last Saturday's blizzard, the motherfuckers.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 01, 2017 10:20 PM (0F26Z)
=================================

My sister just moved out to Boulder. She sent me pictures. Most of them were captioned: "What the Heck?"

Posted by: grammie winger at May 01, 2017 10:23 PM (lwiT4)

89 Crosby has the star thing going as to penalties for and against.

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:23 PM (Cviw2)

90 Apropos of nothing, I stumbled across some pipe music on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y5mcLxlSgU

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 01, 2017 10:23 PM (gwPgz)

91 Who needs a map?

Posted by: garrett
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The ride is the thing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer's Triumph at May 01, 2017 10:23 PM (ZO497)

92 Anybody else ever have a dream of longing for someone, some serious time after (a) they've left your life and (b) you thought you were finally getting over them?

----

My old flames wind up as characters in books I write... and my wife is never happy about that.

Posted by: RKae at May 01, 2017 10:23 PM (i3rHh)

93 Posted by: Common Tater at May 01, 2017 10:19 PM (Mw7bJ)

It also doesn't help that Shias kill Sunnis and vice versa
They kill their own why the fuck would they not kill us infidels?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 01, 2017 10:23 PM (voOPb)

94 76: If only there winters weren't 9 months long.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 01, 2017 10:24 PM (pY+s4)

95 Now Mook had to tell his boss that Obama was interested in a smooth transfer of power to his successor, Trump, and that Clinton needed to give up any last-ditch hopes that the swing states would somehow flip for her.

At 3 in the afternoon on the day before election day Trump's people announced an added rally in Grand Rapids, Michigan for 11 at night. 20,000 people showed up and thousands had to be turned away.
Meanwhile, Hillary had done a rally at a university and only got 8000. On a university campus full of dim-witted students, and their even more dim-witted professors. A rally that had been planned and promoted well in advance.

And the journalists thought Hillary's chances of winning were what? 90%?

Now they're shoving Chelsea down the public's throats.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 01, 2017 10:24 PM (+lVUW)

96 Canadian bacon = back bacon.
Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:22 PM (Cviw2)


What do Canadians do with pork belly? I had an English housemate who called American bacon "streaky rashers", so he was apparently familiar with it, but I've never seen it in Canada.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2017 10:24 PM (8nWyX)

97 Judy Collins! Born in Seattle, WA!

Posted by: RKae at May 01, 2017 10:22 PM (i3rHh)


"Someday Soon!"

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 01, 2017 10:24 PM (gwPgz)

98 grammie, July is the only month I've never seen snow fall.

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:24 PM (Cviw2)

99 I kind of like the song, but can completely understand that some people hate it. Stereo Review used to call Bread's genre "wimp rock" back in the 1980s, LOL.
--

I'd go one lower and say "wimp adult contemporary." Sort of like Air Supply.

However, it might be useful to play this during an Antifa riot. It would either calm them or make them run away. Win-win.

Palette cleanser:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtuoFv4dcwM

Posted by: shibumi at May 01, 2017 10:24 PM (8zWAk)

100 It also doesn't help that Shias kill Sunnis and vice versa
They kill their own why the fuck would they not kill us infidels?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

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Hell, they kill their own daughters when they catch 'em wearing blue jeans.

Posted by: RKae at May 01, 2017 10:24 PM (i3rHh)

101 Well, here we are again.

Happy New Month, y'all.

April showers bring May flowers
May flowers bring June bugs.

Posted by: mindful webworker - party of the first party at May 01, 2017 10:25 PM (hGZJP)

102 >> Crosby has the star thing going as to penalties for and against.



It's to be expected.

He's the closest thing the NHL has to a hot chick.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2017 10:25 PM (f7W3D)

103 95 Now they're shoving Chelsea down the public's throats.
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 01, 2017 10:24 PM (+lVUW)


Hard to imagine a more perfect sign that they're desperate.

Posted by: Splunge at May 01, 2017 10:25 PM (iMxBJ)

104 I'm also enjoying Houston's bitch slapping of the Spurs at the moment. Normally I would care (don't follow the NBA) but after the Spurs coach went all Trump Derangement mode, fuck them.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 01, 2017 10:25 PM (pY+s4)

105 April showers bring May flowers
May flowers bring June bugs.
Posted by: mindful webworker - party of the first party

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No, Mayflowers bring Pilgrims.

Posted by: RKae at May 01, 2017 10:26 PM (i3rHh)

106 That's just plain liminal hate with Bieber. But while the English version is PC dreck, have you seen the French Canadian anthem? Pretty sure Le Pen would say "lovely time lads, but it's a little aggressivez as in I expected a line about killing the darkies for a second there."

Posted by: trev006 at May 01, 2017 10:26 PM (fBI6U)

107 What do Canadians do with pork belly? I had an
English housemate who called American bacon "streaky rashers", so he was
apparently familiar with it, but I've never seen it in Canada.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2017 10:24 PM (8nWyX)


Wonderful things.

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:26 PM (Cviw2)

108 It also doesn't help that Shias kill Sunnis and vice versa
They kill their own why the fuck would they not kill us infidels?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 01, 2017 10:23 PM (voOPb)


I've always thought that's what the Vegas pros would call a "tell"!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 01, 2017 10:26 PM (gwPgz)

109 Vendette, how do you be?

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 01, 2017 10:26 PM (gwPgz)

110 Posted by: davidt at May 01, 2017 10:12 PM (XoldI)
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Where about in N WI?

Only rain here in the EC area

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 01, 2017 10:26 PM (voOPb)

111 I'm surprised there hasn't been more backlash in
Germany. France, of course, not at all surprised that they lay down like
doormats.
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 01, 2017 10:07 PM (+lVUW)


You mean like long-settled Turks and Germans getting together to beat on gangs of rape-fugees?
Local story. Even AFP won't carry it.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 01, 2017 10:26 PM (c+M0N)

112 I have dreams about my 7th grade boyfriend like you wouldn't believe. It became especially problematic when he became my primary doctor. Breathe in. Breathe out. Now let me check for lumps. Oh dear.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 01, 2017 10:26 PM (lwiT4)

113 April showers bring May flowers

And May flowers bring October fires and November mudslides.

Posted by: t-bird at May 01, 2017 10:27 PM (/cksx)

114 Okay, it's late and I'm falling asleep. What is that a map of? (And thank you, Canucks, for showing more respect for our anthem than many of us do. I'm going to memorize Oh Canada in case I ever get a chance to reciprocate.)

Posted by: joncelli, Deplorable Yet Fuzzy at May 01, 2017 10:27 PM (1FhAQ)

115 RKae, LOL. That's my ultimate dream/goal. I have story ideas in the works about... let me think... at least five of my hopeless crushes.

And I hope I can use their real names. If I'm ever actually a successful director/producer, I'm going to drive the guys in the studio legal department crazy.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2017 10:28 PM (qazQh)

116 {{{Hrothgar}}}

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:28 PM (Cviw2)

117 You mean like long-settled Turks and Germans getting together to beat on gangs of rape-fugees?
Local story. Even AFP won't carry it.
--

In America, we call that "vigilate justice" and we approve.

Western Europe lost all their alpha males in two wars and the smart ones left moved here. So they're kind of screwed.

Posted by: shibumi at May 01, 2017 10:28 PM (8zWAk)

118 103 95 Now they're shoving Chelsea down the public's throats.
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 01, 2017 10:24 PM (+lVUW)


Clintons & deep throats Ha

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 01, 2017 10:28 PM (voOPb)

119 "Both Sides Now" is a Joni Mitchell song, Judy Collins version is weak sauce, although played more often on the radio (remember those?)

Posted by: Common Tater at May 01, 2017 10:28 PM (Mw7bJ)

120 >>I'm surprised there hasn't been more backlash in
Germany.


I don't know if they pull for the Penguins in Germany.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2017 10:28 PM (f7W3D)

121 Now they're shoving Chelsea down the public's throats.
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 01, 2017 10:24 PM (+lVUW)

Hard to imagine a more perfect sign that they're desperate.

Posted by: Splunge at May 01, 2017 10:25 PM (iMxBJ)


With Schumer running the Senate, I think they have time to develop a bench!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 01, 2017 10:28 PM (gwPgz)

122 shibumi, LOL.

Here's a fave palette cleanser of mine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqkg3_fnNqE

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2017 10:29 PM (qazQh)

123 Insomniac, glad you ask. Was about to share re that.

Anybody else ever have a dream of longing for someone, some serious time after (a) they've left your life and (b) you thought you were finally getting over them?

My brain did that to me last night. Damn it.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2017 10:12 PM (qazQh)

Periodically, this happens to me. Oddly, it's not the same person each time.

Posted by: Beartooth at May 01, 2017 10:29 PM (61c4R)

124 Well, you could go with the Chelsea Football Club, English Premiere League.

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:29 PM (Cviw2)

125 {{{Vendette}}}

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 01, 2017 10:30 PM (gwPgz)

126 not sure about the ugliest car list, seems the author has a thing with small hatchbacks, which are ugly, and all the ones he selected are ugly, but not ugly enough to force out some really ugly cars.


now, he did get the aztek right. that is one ugly car. don't care if someone here drives one and it hurts their feelings bigly, that is one ugly fucking car inside and out in every way.

Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 10:30 PM (cPsPa)

127 grammie, July is the only month I've never seen snow fall.


Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:24 PM (Cviw2)
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I don't recall seeing it in July or August. I remember when we were up north one June. Third week I think. Snow and in the low thirties. I didn't bring heavy coats or gloves with. We had to make a trip to Manistique to the Family Dollar Store for outdoor gear. Worse summer vacation ever.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 01, 2017 10:30 PM (lwiT4)

128 Vendette!

Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 10:30 PM (cPsPa)

129 I have a feeling that Chelsea doesn't want to be a politician.

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:30 PM (Cviw2)

130 Beartooth, hmm... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2017 10:31 PM (qazQh)

131 Another ugly car missed was the 1960's Volkswagen pickup that was based on the Bus.
My dad and I moved a lot of firewood in one of those when I was a kid.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 01, 2017 10:31 PM (c+M0N)

132 I have a feeling that Chelsea doesn't want to be a politician.
Posted by: Vendette


Nope. She wants to be dictator.
Think Eva Peron.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2017 10:31 PM (qazQh)

133 Hell you can be carjacked while in the convenience of your own home.

++++

No, I don't think so. Carjacking is when the robbers stick a gun in your face, force you out of the vehicle and then drive off in your ride. It is a form of armed robbery, or at least strong arm robbery.

If they steal the car while you aren't there, that just grand theft auto. Whether or not they use a slim jim and then hot wire it, or if they use some high tech gadget to get around your high tech locks, it still just theft.

You are still short a car, but you haven't been jacked.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 01, 2017 10:31 PM (R+30W)

134 Up on Lake Superior. More snow predicted for tomorrow. At least today it didn't stick like it did last Thursday.

Posted by: davidt at May 01, 2017 10:32 PM (XoldI)

135 Well, you could go with the Chelsea Football Club, English Premiere League.
Posted by: Vendette

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I have a Chelsea FC jersey, because I was staying in that section of town for a week, and a cab driver told me to "Be careful because the football fans get a little rowdy." Went out and got a shirt immediately, so I could stay safe!

Posted by: RKae at May 01, 2017 10:32 PM (i3rHh)

136 It can be argued that Canada is a paradise on Earth, if you ignore their weird ideas about bacon.

Good food, nice cities, plenty of land. Where else can you walk into any bar and know that you will not get punched, unless you insult Wayne Gretzky?
Posted by: Splunge at May 01, 2017 10:20 PM (iMxBJ)


Standing gate guard in Esquimalt (which was really just a token thing since the Canadians had C-7s and I had a stupid expandable baton), I learned that the "exchange" in the Canadian military means just that - you can turn in your worn-out uniform items and just be issued new ones. Sooooo jealous.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2017 10:32 PM (8nWyX)

137 Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 10:30 PM (cPsPa)

Surprised you left Buicks off your list



An ugly car was a 73 Chryselr New Port and drank gas like there was no tomorrow

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 01, 2017 10:32 PM (voOPb)

138 120: Can't remember his name but the Capitals had a pretty decent goalie from Germany (1990s).

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 01, 2017 10:32 PM (pY+s4)

139 In Get Shorty (1995) the LA citizens thought that the Oldsmobile Silhouette / Pontiac Transport looked sci-fi. A great joke about how foreign most of America is to them.

Posted by: TR at May 01, 2017 10:32 PM (VdICR)

140 CHL holder stopped the stab fest at UT.

But of course the fake news won't report that

Posted by: Batterup at May 01, 2017 10:32 PM (mtGE/)

141 Standing gate guard in Esquimalt (which was
really just a token thing since the Canadians had C-7s and I had a
stupid expandable baton), I learned that the "exchange" in the Canadian
military means just that - you can turn in your worn-out uniform items
and just be issued new ones. Sooooo jealous.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2017 10:32 PM (8nWyX)

Do I need to apologize?

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:33 PM (Cviw2)

142 Hell, they kill their own daughters when they catch 'em wearing blue jeans.
Posted by: RKae at May 01, 2017 10:24 PM


Oh, noes!

Posted by: Venus at May 01, 2017 10:33 PM (DMUuz)

143 Sooner or later if North Korea's nuclear, if Sudan goes nuclear, if Yemen goes nuclear, and all the rich countries spend nothing defending themselves, the world will collapse. Mark Steyn

It's rayciss for the First World to defend itself.

Posted by: rickl at May 01, 2017 10:33 PM (sdi6R)

144 Posted by: davidt at May 01, 2017 10:32 PM (XoldI)

Thanks
Our cabin is 30 mi south of the lake
Snow a week ago Sunday there

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 01, 2017 10:33 PM (voOPb)

145 "but they left out the Smart Car and the PT Cruiser"

No joke, I once gave up on taking a trip for vacation because all they had available at the rental car lot were PT cruisers. (Only one place to rent cars)

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 01, 2017 10:34 PM (w+Jhj)

146 >> Can't remember his name but the Capitals had a pretty decent goalie from Germany (1990s).


Grant Führer

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2017 10:34 PM (f7W3D)

147 the infiniti j30 was pretty fugly

Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 10:35 PM (cPsPa)

148 Thanks so much for your concern, Bill Wynn. Here's your fresh back of d!cks.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 01, 2017 10:35 PM (0F26Z)

149 22 So ... there's this chic at the gym, she's totally into me, but I think she's got a mustache and she lives in a car ...

... should I get an engagement ring, or just ask her to elope ?
Posted by: ScoggDog


Don't laugh, there used to be letters like that in Ann Landers. "I met this guy and he's really great. He treats me like a princess. Except he has a drinking problem and he can't hold down a job. "

I'm not kidding. There were letters like that.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 01, 2017 10:35 PM (+lVUW)

150 Good evening horde. Muzzies are prone to try to destroy mosques of other sects and commit arson for insurance or whatever so I won't even credit that some Swedes may have gotten a bit of revenge without proof.

Posted by: PaleRider at May 01, 2017 10:35 PM (8qFZP)

151 Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2017 10:34 PM (f7W3D)


Not Grant Fuhr.

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:35 PM (Cviw2)

152 My kingdom for an umlaut

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2017 10:35 PM (f7W3D)

153 140: we called them dustbusters. really shitty cars. gm designers used some really good shit.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 01, 2017 10:35 PM (KP5rU)

154 Do I need to apologize?
Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:33 PM (Cviw2)


What on earth for?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2017 10:36 PM (8nWyX)

155 Wanted to give a shout out to the Texans of the horde . Just back from turkey hunting around Sonora . Rural , and small town Texans are terrific folks . I can't wait to go back .
Dallas , Houston , Austin . Noooo thank you .

Posted by: awkward davies at May 01, 2017 10:36 PM (JsMw3)

156 Was it Olaf Kolzig?


Caps win.

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:36 PM (Cviw2)

157 They used to make Nash Ramblers in Kenosha. Not that anybody asked.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 01, 2017 10:36 PM (lwiT4)

158 Posted by: PaleRider at May 01, 2017 10:35 PM (8qFZP)

I think "insurance" is an infidel concept so it would be halal to screw over the insurance companies with a false claim.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 01, 2017 10:37 PM (gwPgz)

159 Re the Canadians singing the American anthem for us, this happens every so often, does it not? Regardless, it chokes me up and makes me very grateful to them. Pure class.

Posted by: bluebell at May 01, 2017 10:37 PM (sBOL1)

160 147: Heh!

Olaf Kolzig

You were close though.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 01, 2017 10:37 PM (pY+s4)

161 "Who needs a map?



Posted by: garrett

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The ride is the thing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer's Triumph"

I'm trying to figure out where the map is from. I'm assuming North is up, so is that a coastline of an ocean or a Great Lake that's shown?

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 01, 2017 10:37 PM (w+Jhj)

162 Surprised you left Buicks off your list



An ugly car was a 73 Chryselr New Port and drank gas like there was no tomorrow
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May




heh.

yeah that was ugly.

regarding buicks, historically I do like them. the current batch seems like they took a buick and put it into a car crusher set on half way so they squished em in from the sides and front. sure obama has something to do with it.

Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 10:37 PM (cPsPa)

163 What on earth for?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2017 10:36 PM (8nWyX)


I'm Canadian

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:37 PM (Cviw2)

164 I'm not surprised the Pontiac TransSport is on the ugly car list. The radio station I worked at 20 years ago had one as the station vehicle for live remote broadcasts. It was in the shop just as often as it was on the road.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, pilot of the airwaves at May 01, 2017 10:38 PM (rJUlF)

165 >>>In Get Shorty (1995) the LA citizens thought that the Oldsmobile Silhouette / Pontiac Transport looked sci-fi. A great joke about how foreign most of America is to them


"they call it the cadillac of minivans"

jinx/coke..i'm watching it right now

Posted by: concrete girl at May 01, 2017 10:38 PM (HmYuA)

166 We had the Buick version of the Aztec. Grandma had a Pacer.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at May 01, 2017 10:38 PM (di1hb)

167 My God-- the ugly cars? Remember being behind the Pacer in the rain? It looked like an aquarium. And the Cube looks like a toaster on wheels. Hideous.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 01, 2017 10:38 PM (TdMsT)

168 Great feel good story. The old codger certainty looks like he had a great time.

Posted by: Beartooth at May 01, 2017 10:38 PM (61c4R)

169 Maybe the viking was just dormant , not dead .
Mosque burns .

This is a feel good story , right ?

Posted by: awkward davies at May 01, 2017 10:19 PM (JsMw3)


Any bets that is was a bunch of Black Metal dudes who got tired of burning down churches and no one cares so decided to torch something people actually cared about?

Posted by: Toki Wartooth at May 01, 2017 10:38 PM (vBeA5)

170 Anybody else ever have a dream of longing for someone, some serious time after (a) they've left your life and (b) you thought you were finally getting over them?


There is a girl who I knew back in college that I dream about from time to time. I must have been more interested in her than I remember.

Curiously enough, the girl that I was deeply infatuated/in love with for ten years in highschool through college and beyond, who eventually made broke my heart by making it plain to me that she was not interested me beyond friendship and never would be; her I never dream about. Go figure.

Posted by: Grey Fox at May 01, 2017 10:39 PM (bZ7mE)

171 Do I need to apologize?
Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:33 PM (Cviw2)

What on earth for?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2017 10:36 PM (8nWyX)


If it was anybody but Vendette, I'd reply to that!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 01, 2017 10:39 PM (gwPgz)

172 Marijuana smokers can kiss my ass.
It's legal here and it's all BS.
They can sit there and light up and we're all supposed to smile and smirk and congratulate ourselves on being so clever.
But if I lighup a really fantastic Cohiba suddenly I'm worse than a child rapist who kills small furry animals as a side business.
To hell with them.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 01, 2017 10:39 PM (0tfLf)

173 Damn, Caps win.

Hope Sid's head isn't scrambled from that crosscheck. It wasn't dirty but still....

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 01, 2017 10:39 PM (pY+s4)

174 Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 01, 2017 10:38 PM (TdMsT)

Thanks

All I could do was visualize it and not come up with the name

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 01, 2017 10:39 PM (voOPb)

175 I'm Canadian
Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:37 PM (Cviw2)


Why would you want to start doing that? You'd spend the rest of eternity apologizing for that and never get anywhere.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 01, 2017 10:40 PM (c+M0N)

176 There are some damn ugly cars on that list. Some of them aren't THAT bad, like the Jeep Cherokee. The Kia Soul belongs on that list, though, as does the Chevy HHR.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 01, 2017 10:40 PM (0mRoj)

177 That list is mostly good ... but they left out the Smart Car and the PT Cruiser ... and there are a few other box cars that are pretty much the ugliest things tooling around on the road.

The most entertaining part of the Paul McCartney divorce was when his one-legged wife was bitching on some show that Sir Paul made his wife drive a PT Cruiser. You'd have thought that he'd beaten her with her own wooden leg.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 01, 2017 10:40 PM (+lVUW)

178 I'm Canadian

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:37 PM (Cviw2)


At least I didn't say that!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 01, 2017 10:40 PM (gwPgz)

179 I'm not surprised that the fans in Edmonton could sing the Star Spangled Banner without the lyrics provided. Trust me, it's heard a lot.

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:40 PM (Cviw2)

180 132 I have a feeling that Chelsea doesn't want to be a politician.
Posted by: Vendette

Nope. She wants to be dictator.
Think Eva Peron.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2017 10:31 PM (qazQh)




Nah. She wants to be considered pretty and popular.

Ain't gonna happen.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 01, 2017 10:40 PM (SRKgf)

181 hey friends!

Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 01, 2017 10:41 PM (smD62)

182 RNC 202-863-8500. No email, how convenient.

Call them and let these traitouris bastards know not one dime will ever again come their way. When Schumer and Pelosi are praising the Republican budget agreement - Republicans, you are doing it all wrong.

No cuts to EPA, full funding for Planned Parenthood, no money for the Wall with Mexico, no repeal of Obamacare...and on it goes thanks to Ryan and McConnell.

President Trump, may I offer a suggestion? Veto this POS and force them to take a stand. Tell them that you were elected to do all of the above and if it takes a government shutdown to achieve your goals, so be it.

Let the government be shut down when the non essential personnel are sent home (@15%). Next business day fire every one of the non essential personnel, brag about how you are delivering on your MAGA promise and are now cutting the budget.

I know it's a tough row to hoe but it is was why the American people elected you in the first place. You are opposed by the democrats, the republicans, Hillary! Supporters, the Washington establishment and the media yet you won with our support.

Use the power we gave you to change things now or the power to change things later willl be lost forever given your overwhelming opposition.

Good luck, Mr. President. You counted on us on Election Day and we delivered for you and now we are counting on you to do whatever it takes to MAGA.

Do it now, do it again and again and then again until your promises are kept.

Total Trump supporter, not getting wobbly but this is the time to take a stand.

Posted by: Alf767 at May 01, 2017 10:41 PM (a1lZO)

183 how are chrysler k cars not on the list?

Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 10:41 PM (cPsPa)

184 My dad's car when I was a wee lad was a Rambler Ambassador station wagon. Great car. I always sat in the way-back.

We called it the Blambler.

Dear Lord, was I ever that young?

Now I'm all nostalgic and shit.

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at May 01, 2017 10:41 PM (cpAMo)

185 I'm Canadian
Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:37 PM (Cviw2)


Hah! Sorry, it's hard to tell if someone's taking me too seriously or just goofing.

In the US military, we get an annual uniform allowance that doesn't come close to what annual replacement from ordinary wear costs. Hearing the Canadian Navy guys at the gate say that they can just go in to the quartermaster or whatever and say "these boots are wrecked, I need new ones" was amazing.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2017 10:41 PM (8nWyX)

186 To hell with them.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 01, 2017 10:39 PM (0tfLf)


Sanity and rationality have no place in these discussions!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 01, 2017 10:42 PM (gwPgz)

187 I'm trying to figure out where the map is from. I'm assuming North is up, so is that a coastline of an ocean or a Great Lake that's shown?
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
------------

How's your French?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 01, 2017 10:42 PM (OdK9v)

188 The most entertaining part of the Paul McCartney
divorce was when his one-legged wife was bitching on some show that Sir
Paul made his wife drive a PT Cruiser. You'd have thought that he'd
beaten her with her own wooden leg.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 01, 2017 10:40 PM (+lVUW)

Well, in her defense, it was a standard transmission.

Posted by: davidt at May 01, 2017 10:42 PM (XoldI)

189 Nope. She wants to be dictator.

I don't get that vibe at all. She seems completely without...well, anything, really.

Posted by: t-bird at May 01, 2017 10:43 PM (kCDOM)

190 Maybe the fire was set by someone who had a family member raped. I'm not in favor of people engaging in vigilante justice. But it is the job of the government to protect its citizens, and Sweden has been doing a piss poor job of protecting women and girls from rapists Sooner or later people will get fed up. It's called "a lesson in life".

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 01, 2017 10:06 PM (+lVUW)

It's a shiite mosque. Bet you a sunni muzzie did it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 01, 2017 10:43 PM (0deF2)

191
Curiously enough, the girl that I was deeply
infatuated/in love with for ten years in highschool through college and
beyond, who eventually made broke my heart by making it plain to me that
she was not interested me beyond friendship and never would be; her I
never dream about. Go figure.

Posted by: Grey Fox at May 01, 2017 10:39 PM (bZ7mE)
==================================

I had a relationship sorta like that. 7 years, high school-college. Dropped me cold and ended up married to some big boob chick a couple of months later.

I looked him up on Facebook. He's fat and bald and has a cigarette hanging out of the side of his mouth. Not well dressed. Dodged a bullet I did. With one regret - he's rich as all get-out now.


Oh well. He did introduce me to the joys of beat-up red Chevy trucks. So there's that.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 01, 2017 10:43 PM (lwiT4)

192 Hah! Sorry, it's hard to tell if someone's taking me too seriously or just goofing.



In the US military, we get an annual uniform allowance that doesn't
come close to what annual replacement from ordinary wear costs. Hearing
the Canadian Navy guys at the gate say that they can just go in to the
quartermaster or whatever and say "these boots are wrecked, I need new
ones" was amazing.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2017 10:41 PM (8nWyX)

Mr. Vendette (Go Navy, Beat Army!) has made his thoughts known about the uniform situation.

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:43 PM (Cviw2)

193 It's a shiite mosque. Bet you a sunni muzzie did it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


I'm filing this under "bets I'm not taking"

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 01, 2017 10:43 PM (0F26Z)

194 I've seen a thousand drawings of concept cars at my school of design. The Pontiac Aztek wasn't an accident, it was inevitable.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 01, 2017 10:43 PM (VdICR)

195 I guess the ugliest car I ever owned was a Ford Maverick. It wasn't so much ugly as it was just a really shitty car.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 01, 2017 10:44 PM (w+Jhj)

196 should we be encouraging the the the muslims to burn each others mosques down?

Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 10:44 PM (cPsPa)

197 You'd have thought that he'd beaten her with her own wooden leg.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 01, 2017 10:40 PM (+lVUW)
========================

She was a piece of work.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 01, 2017 10:45 PM (lwiT4)

198
Nah. She wants to be considered pretty and popular.

Ain't gonna happen.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


After Obama, anything is possible.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 01, 2017 10:45 PM (IqV8l)

199 You people had cars ? My mom took my sisters and I grocery shopping for gruel in a wheelbarrow .

Posted by: awkward davies at May 01, 2017 10:45 PM (JsMw3)

200 197 should we be encouraging the the the muslims to burn each others mosques down?
Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 10:44 PM (cPsPa)

Of course not! That would be wrong!

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: Insomniac at May 01, 2017 10:45 PM (0mRoj)

201 Who needs a map?

I steer by the stars.

Posted by: Grump928(C) has drink taken at May 01, 2017 10:45 PM (LTHVh)

202 You people had cars ? My mom took my sisters and I grocery shopping for gruel in a wheelbarrow .


Posted by: awkward davies at May 01, 2017 10:45 PM (JsMw3)

Uphill both ways.

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 10:46 PM (Cviw2)

203 "How's your French?

Posted by: Mike Hammer"

She's fine, thanks. What's that have to do with the map?

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 01, 2017 10:46 PM (w+Jhj)

204 older buicks were rad.
my grampa had an early 60's and my mom, early 70's.
tanks, but beautiful.

Posted by: concrete girl at May 01, 2017 10:46 PM (HmYuA)

205 198 You'd have thought that he'd beaten her with her own wooden leg.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 01, 2017 10:40 PM (+lVUW)
========================

She was a piece of work.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 01, 2017 10:45 PM (lwiT4)

I guess whispering sweet nothings such as Stumpy I love you wasn't a smooth move

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 01, 2017 10:46 PM (voOPb)

206 My kingdom for an umlaut
Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2017 10:35 PM (f7W3D)
---------

ü

Pay up, cowboy

Posted by: bluebell at May 01, 2017 10:47 PM (sBOL1)

207 In Get Shorty (1995) the LA citizens thought that the Oldsmobile Silhouette / Pontiac Transport looked sci-fi. A great joke about how foreign most of America is to them.

Posted by: TR at May 01, 2017 10:32 PM (VdICR)


It's the Cadillac of mini-vans.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2017 10:47 PM (zc3Db)

208 75 A startling revelation by the U.K, There are 6,000-10,000 jihadists roaming about the country.

Is that in addition to the child rapists or is there overlap? Rotherham.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 01, 2017 10:47 PM (+lVUW)

209 You people had cars ? My mom took my sisters and I grocery shopping for gruel in a wheelbarrow .

Posted by: awkward davies at May 01, 2017 10:45 PM (JsMw3)


Ah, but did your wheelbarrow actually have a wheel?

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 01, 2017 10:47 PM (gwPgz)

210 Are you feeling burned out at work? You should take that feeling seriously. Research shows that not only does burnout affect your mood and productivity--it actually affects your brain function. Participants in burnout studies showed enlarged amygdalae, and thinning of the frontal cortex. The frontal cortex thins naturally with aging, but subjects with work-related burnout showed accelerated thinning--in effect, burnout was making their brains old before their time.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at May 01, 2017 10:47 PM (e8kgV)

211 Nah. She wants to be considered pretty and popular.

Ain't gonna happen.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

After Obama, anything is possible.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 01, 2017 10:45 PM (IqV8l)

*really long, loud Napoleon Dynamite sigh*

You're probably right...

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at May 01, 2017 10:47 PM (cpAMo)

212 And it's off to bed. Good night and sweet dreams to all.

Posted by: joncelli, Deplorable Yet Fuzzy at May 01, 2017 10:47 PM (1FhAQ)

213 I guess whispering sweet nothings such as Stumpy I love you wasn't a smooth move

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 01, 2017 10:46 PM (voOPb)
==========================

She probably had enough of silly love songs.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 01, 2017 10:48 PM (lwiT4)

214 She's fine, thanks. What's that have to do with the map?
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
------------

That's the Atlantic, to your left.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 01, 2017 10:48 PM (OdK9v)

215
She probably had enough of silly love songs.

Do me a favor. Open the door and let her in.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 01, 2017 10:49 PM (IqV8l)

216 Posted by: grammie winger at May 01, 2017 10:48 PM (lwiT4)

Ha

Then he played, "Peg"

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 01, 2017 10:49 PM (voOPb)

217 When I got back from Afghanistan, I bought new summer and winter PT uniforms and some running shoes. Sadly the total was noticeably close to my yearly clothing allowance. Every work uniform or dress blues would come out of my pocket.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 01, 2017 10:50 PM (VdICR)

218 Hey, that's Princess Chelsea to us plebes.

Posted by: davidt at May 01, 2017 10:50 PM (XoldI)

219 Nice mosque dere in Sverige. Shame if aniting happen tooo it. Uff da.
==========
Borken der bork bork.

Posted by: the swedish chef at May 01, 2017 10:50 PM (nlbfN)

220 Welp, the Roto Rooter man is coming first thing in the morning. So off to bed I go - goodnight!

Posted by: grammie winger at May 01, 2017 10:50 PM (lwiT4)

221 The most entertaining part of the Paul McCartney divorce was when his one-legged wife was bitching on some show that Sir Paul made his wife drive a PT Cruiser. You'd have thought that he'd beaten her with her own wooden leg.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 01, 2017 10:40 PM (+lVUW)


LOL.

That's too funny.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2017 10:51 PM (zc3Db)

222 now, he did get the aztek right. that is one ugly car.

It looks like it should sport a gun turret as it wanders the post-apocalyptic wastes.

Posted by: Grump928(C) has drink taken at May 01, 2017 10:51 PM (LTHVh)

223 The map is perfect, absolutely perfect.

After the war we ran a college for GIs there, a story that would make the best setting ever for a novel, film, tv series.

Posted by: Roy CT at May 01, 2017 10:51 PM (wdHQo)

224 She probably had enough of silly love songs.

Do me a favor. Open the door and let her in.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr
----------

I hear you knocking, but you can't come in.

Posted by: Smiley Lewis at May 01, 2017 10:52 PM (OdK9v)

225 The town at the top of the map is Biarritz, so we're just north of Spain.

Posted by: t-bird at May 01, 2017 10:52 PM (kCDOM)

226 Well , not really a wheelbarrow . Kind of a sledge ,really , but my folks called it a wheelbarrow . I figure 'ol dad was just givin' hisself airs .

Posted by: awkward davies at May 01, 2017 10:52 PM (JsMw3)

227 "That's the Atlantic, to your left.

Posted by: Mike Hammer"

One of my cats is sleeping to my left right now, Oh...

The map was too blurry to read, so I didn't know if it was Ireland or England or Scotland or whatever.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 01, 2017 10:52 PM (w+Jhj)

228 If they steal the car while you aren't there, that just grand theft auto. Whether or not they use a slim jim and then hot wire it, or if they use some high tech gadget to get around your high tech locks, it still just theft.

You are still short a car, but you haven't been jacked.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 01, 2017 10:31 PM (R+30W)

And so, so easy to simply put a hidden switch in the starter circuit, or a quarter-turn valve to shut off the fuel supply, also hidden, of course. Thieves won't know where to look, and an exhaustive search takes time, especially if they don't know precisely what they need to find.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 01, 2017 10:53 PM (0deF2)

229 I guess the ugliest car I ever owned was a Ford Maverick. It wasn't so much ugly as it was just a really shitty car.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 01, 2017 10:44 PM (w+Jhj)


Mine was my first car, a 1984 Pontiac Sunbird. Not that ugly, but every damn thing about it was amateur hour. With 3 friends on a road trip, I could maybe break 60mph downhill. The glove box wasn't a rotating basket like most cars on my home planet, it was a box with a door in front. The cup holders? Little 1/2" high recesses in the lid, because of course if I have a cup of coffee, I'm going to want to put it on something that is going to go flying with manuals and a flashlight and a first aid kit as soon as the vehicle moves. It eventually seized up and blew smoking coolant all over and I think I got $50 from the scrapyard. The only things it had going for it were:
1. it was a 5-speed
2. it was mine
3. I could smoke in it
Mom's 1984 Toyota van that I could borrow before I got the Sunbird was objectively uglier, but it passed through into some odd realm of cute. Plus, I learned to drive a manual transmission on it.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2017 10:53 PM (8nWyX)

230 Are you feeling burned out at work? You should take that feeling seriously. Research shows that not only does burnout affect your mood and productivity--it actually affects your brain function. Participants in burnout studies showed enlarged amygdalae, and thinning of the frontal cortex. The frontal cortex thins naturally with aging, but subjects with work-related burnout showed accelerated thinning--in effect, burnout was making their brains old before their time.
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at May 01, 2017 10:47 PM (e8kgV)

Burn out is insidious in many ways. It goes beyond feeling tired. It effects your sleep, work and family relationships. It's a struggle to complete ordinary things that you used to do with ease not counting feeling befuddled.

It took me over a year to shake free from my burn out in 2014.

Posted by: Beartooth at May 01, 2017 10:53 PM (61c4R)

231 now, he did get the aztek right. that is one ugly car.

It looks like it should sport a gun turret as it wanders the post-apocalyptic wastes.
Posted by: Grump928(C) has drink taken at May




well, part of what makes it so ugly is how proud gm was of it when they rolled it out. they were bragging about its features and how it would appeal to so many youngsters.

Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 10:54 PM (cPsPa)

232 @232

Work has been downright brutal the last couple of weeks...I can't do anything right.

Burnout is pretty accurate.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 01, 2017 10:54 PM (smD62)

233 Ugly and owned? Chevy Citation.

Posted by: t-bird at May 01, 2017 10:55 PM (HwVbl)

234 I always wanted the RV from Damnation Alley.

http://bit.ly/2oZVz8T

Posted by: Grump928(C) has drink taken at May 01, 2017 10:56 PM (LTHVh)

235 "When I got back from Afghanistan, I bought new
summer and winter PT uniforms and some running shoes. Sadly the total
was noticeably close to my yearly clothing allowance. Every work
uniform or dress blues would come out of my pocket.

Posted by: BourbonChicken"

The ship's laundry managed to lose my Dress Whites. They wanted me to pay for a new set. I didn't get a new set and managed to make it two years without getting in a situation where I had to wear them. (I still had my blues and did wear them a few times).

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 01, 2017 10:56 PM (w+Jhj)

236 The Aztek.
The youngsters referred to it at the "Asstek" they thought it was so ugly.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 01, 2017 10:56 PM (hVdx9)

237 My first car was a 1951 Plymouth.

I suppose I could play off of the Pet Thread, and say also that it was a stick

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 01, 2017 10:56 PM (OdK9v)

238 I saw some new Bentley the other day and, damn, if that car wasn't totally hideous. Some schmuck paid upwards of a quarter million for a car that looked like a cheap knock off of a chevy. I couldn't believe they had made such a horrible looking piece of crap.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2017 10:57 PM (zc3Db)

239 The Nissan Juke Joke, should be on any "10 most" list of Ugliest Cars.

Concurrently, the list should be modified to include any vehicle in which rides:

[ ] Hitlery

[ ] Chelsea

[ ] Lena Dunham

[ ] Amy Schumer

[x] Any of the Above


And there goes many the reputations of many a luxury SUV, I guess.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 01, 2017 10:57 PM (v5iqM)

240 I never owned nary a one of those 10 ugliest cars. Wow. Buy on the other hand I bet I've owned a good number of the 10 prettiest cars.

Posted by: Eromero at May 01, 2017 10:57 PM (zLDYs)

241 US, Canada, Russia, China, UK, India and Japan will totes be fine. Unless their politicians make stupid decisions.

Posted by: shibumi at May 01, 2017 10:14 PM (8zWAk)


Hi!

Posted by: Justin Trudeau at May 01, 2017 10:57 PM (4A5fG)

242 someone ran an article listing the aztek as one of the ten most popular cars with millennials.

Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 10:58 PM (cPsPa)

243 185 My dad's car when I was a wee lad was a Rambler Ambassador station wagon. Great car. I always sat in the way-back.

We called it the Blambler.

Dear Lord, was I ever that young?

Now I'm all nostalgic and shit.
Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at May 01, 2017 10:41 PM (cpAMo)




We always had a station wagon when I was growing up. My brothers and I fought over who got to be in the "way back." I thought that was an expression only my family used!

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 01, 2017 10:58 PM (TdMsT)

244 Listening to Tucker interview the guy from WHCD.

He must mainline Dramamine. Just mind-blowingly hypocritical & full. Of. Shit.

Posted by: Shopgirl at May 01, 2017 10:59 PM (S6uWd)

245 >>>I suppose I could play off of the Pet Thread, and say also that it was a stick


On the bright side Mike dirt had been invented by the time you arrived

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 01, 2017 10:59 PM (voOPb)

246 "And so, so easy to simply put a hidden switch in the
starter circuit, or a quarter-turn valve to shut off the fuel supply,
also hidden, of course. Thieves won't know where to look, and an
exhaustive search takes time, especially if they don't know precisely
what they need to find.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon"

Saw one once where you had to push in the cigarette lighter before the car would start.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 01, 2017 10:59 PM (w+Jhj)

247 >>My first car was a 1951 Plymouth.


Vic's first car was a pair of sandals.

Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2017 10:59 PM (f7W3D)

248
I got around to watching the season finale of The Walking Dead.

Pathetic. The entire season was terrible.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 01, 2017 10:59 PM (xPaE+)

249 186 In the US military, we get an annual uniform allowance that doesn't come close to what annual replacement from ordinary wear costs. Hearing the Canadian Navy guys at the gate say that they can just go in to the quartermaster or whatever and say "these boots are wrecked, I need new ones" was amazing.
Posted by: hogmartin


Don't get me started on being an infantryman and having to breach concertina. Or laying on single strand to make a bridge for the rest of the fellas to run across.

Uniform allowances don't take into account what kind of job you have. At least they didn't during my time.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at May 01, 2017 10:59 PM (di1hb)

250 on the other hand I bet I've owned a good number of the 10 prettiest cars.

Posted by: Eromero at May 01, 2017 10:57 PM (zLDYs)


You had a Jaguar XKE?

Most beautiful car, ever.

I had the poor man's version in high school - Datsun 280z.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2017 10:59 PM (zc3Db)

251 226 Bill W

Except that it demonstrably does not.

But you do you.

Posted by: ibguy at May 01, 2017 11:00 PM (vUcdz)

252 Datsun 280z.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2017 10:59 PM (zc3Db)


Dat be a sweet ride!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 01, 2017 11:00 PM (gwPgz)

253 There is the song about I think the Dodge Rambler vs. the (insert car here) and the problem about the gear...

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 11:00 PM (Cviw2)

254 First car I remember: my Dad's '55 Studebaker.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at May 01, 2017 11:00 PM (+QhzW)

255 This guy just told Tucker that "Half your audience think you're a straight-news show."

Man, I have to stop listening to this during dinner.

Posted by: Shopgirl at May 01, 2017 11:01 PM (S6uWd)

256 someone ran an article listing the aztek as one of the ten most popular cars with millennials.
Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 10:58 PM (cPsPa)


A couple I knew had two of them. They could carry lots of stuff in them, they couldn't care what they looked like, and dealerships were practically giving them away when they bought theirs. It does kind of make sense, I guess.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2017 11:01 PM (8nWyX)

257 Both of the parental units had '67 Camaros.

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 11:02 PM (Cviw2)

258 Never taped a roadmap to a motorcycle gas tank, but used to tape a roadmap to the left (or whichever was unoccupied) seat of the helicopter when I was flying.

Posted by: Eromero at May 01, 2017 11:03 PM (zLDYs)

259 Don't get me started on being an infantryman and having to breach concertina.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at May 01, 2017 10:59 PM


Two words: Bangalore torpedo.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 01, 2017 11:03 PM (DMUuz)

260 211 Are you feeling burned out at work? You should take that feeling seriously. Research shows that not only does burnout affect your mood and productivity--it actually affects your brain function. Participants in burnout studies showed enlarged amygdalae, and thinning of the frontal cortex. The frontal cortex thins naturally with aging, but subjects with work-related burnout showed accelerated thinning--in effect, burnout was making their brains old before their time.
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at May 01, 2017 10:47 PM (e8kgV)

What about feeling burned out on life?

Posted by: Insomniac at May 01, 2017 11:03 PM (0mRoj)

261 well, part of what makes it so ugly is how proud gm was of it when they rolled it out. they were bragging about its features and how it would appeal to so many youngsters.
Posted by: yankefifth
-------------

Honda thought the same thing about the Micro, as did Kia about the Soul, and others. They thought hip young folks would go for them. They were appalled when their main demo turned out to be older people.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 01, 2017 11:03 PM (OdK9v)

262 When we look at a car, we mentally calculate how many 600 dog crates will fit in it.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at May 01, 2017 11:03 PM (4HbHy)

263 H/T Indy

What could possibly go wrong?

http://tinyurl.com/l4lro8m

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 01, 2017 11:03 PM (gwPgz)

264 And so, so easy to simply put a hidden switch in the starter circuit, or a quarter-turn valve to shut off the fuel supply, also hidden, of course. Thieves won't know where to look, and an exhaustive search takes time, especially if they don't know precisely what they need to find.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 01, 2017 10:53 PM (0deF2)

++++

All true. But, they all defeat the purpose of having a remote instead of a key.

You gotta hand it to the thieves: coming up with a repeater to extend the range of your remote is pretty clever.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 01, 2017 11:04 PM (R+30W)

265 203 You people had cars ? My mom took my sisters and I grocery shopping for gruel in a wheelbarrow .
Posted by: awkward davies
----------
Uphill both ways.
Posted by: Vendette
---------
In five feet of snow.

Posted by: lindarose at May 01, 2017 11:04 PM (kufk0)

266 "on the other hand I bet I've owned a good number of the 10 prettiest cars.



Posted by: Eromero at May 01, 2017 10:57 PM (zLDYs)



You had a Jaguar XKE?



Most beautiful car, ever.



I had the poor man's version in high school - Datsun 280z.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair"

My bro had a V12 jag. I had the 280ZX (extended version with a rear seat). The brakes on that thing sucked, but it was a pretty car.

Other pretty cars I've owned?

My 63 Impala
67 Camaro
70 Nova
95 Eclipse GST
2004 STi

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 01, 2017 11:04 PM (w+Jhj)

267 the aztek as one of the ten most popular cars with millennials.

How about that Scion that looks like a British taxi?

Posted by: t-bird at May 01, 2017 11:04 PM (HwVbl)

268 Grey Fox: I can understand why you don't have dreams about that woman. She gave you closure.

Most of the women I've had to deal with, gave me zero closure. They just up and left.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2017 11:04 PM (qazQh)

269 83-50 Rockets in 3rd quarter, which by Bill Wynn's standards means the Spurs got this.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 01, 2017 11:04 PM (0F26Z)

270 259; still the best looking camaro. they got the first one right, after that, it was pretty much downhill.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 01, 2017 11:04 PM (KP5rU)

271 There is the song about I think the Dodge Rambler vs. the (insert car here) and the problem about the gear...

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 11:00 PM (Cviw2)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enqNl7tdLR4

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 01, 2017 11:04 PM (0deF2)

272 183 RNC 202-863-8500. No email, how convenient.

Call them and let these traitouris bastards know not one dime will ever again come their way. When Schumer and Pelosi are praising the Republican budget agreement - Republicans, you are doing it all wrong.

No cuts to EPA, full funding for Planned Parenthood, no money for the Wall with Mexico, no repeal of Obamacare...and on it goes thanks to Ryan and McConnell.

President Trump, may I offer a suggestion? Veto this POS and force them to take a stand. Tell them that you were elected to do all of the above and if it takes a government shutdown to achieve your goals, so be it.

Let the government be shut down when the non essential personnel are sent home (@15%). Next business day fire every one of the non essential personnel, brag about how you are delivering on your MAGA promise and are now cutting the budget.

I know it's a tough row to hoe but it is was why the American people elected you in the first place. You are opposed by the democrats, the republicans, Hillary! Supporters, the Washington establishment and the media yet you won with our support.

Use the power we gave you to change things now or the power to change things later willl be lost forever given your overwhelming opposition.

Good luck, Mr. President. You counted on us on Election Day and we delivered for you and now we are counting on you to do whatever it takes to MAGA.

Do it now, do it again and again and then again until your promises are kept.

Total Trump supporter, not getting wobbly but this is the time to take a stand.
Posted by: Alf767 at May 01, 2017 10:41 PM (a1lZO)




I called my congressman's offices. Both of them. I was so angry about th budget I had to struggle to be coherent. It is beginning to feel like the left has won.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 01, 2017 11:04 PM (TdMsT)

273 Half my audience thinks my show is straight news.

Posted by: Shep Smith at May 01, 2017 11:04 PM (IqV8l)

274 couple I knew had two of them. They could carry lots of stuff in them, they couldn't care what they looked like, and dealerships were practically giving them away when they bought theirs. It does kind of make sense, I guess.
Posted by: hogmartin at May




yeah, it is interesting when you add utility to the mix.

Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 11:04 PM (cPsPa)

275 My mom took my sisters and I grocery shopping for gruel in a wheelbarrow .

Luxury!

Posted by: Fauxcahontas on a Travois at May 01, 2017 11:05 PM (HwVbl)

276 Anybody remember "The Thing"? It was like a jeep but it could be taken apart like an erector set. I forget who produced it.

Oh, and clearly one of the ugliest cars to ever hit the road was the old Cintroen (sp?). The one with the pneumatic shocks that pumped up when you got in it. Man, that was a really offensive looking auto.

And there are a bunch of contenders from the old Eastern bloc, too. The Yugo was the only one that ever tried to make it in America, from what I recall, but they produced ugly cars behind the Iron Curtain as an art form.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2017 11:05 PM (zc3Db)

277 Anybody remember "The Thing"? It was like a jeep but it could be taken apart like an erector set. I forget who produced it.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2017 11:05 PM (zc3Db)


VW.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2017 11:06 PM (8nWyX)

278 There is the song about I think the Dodge Rambler vs. the (insert car here) and the problem about the gear...



Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 11:00 PM (Cviw2)





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enqNl7tdLR4

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 01, 2017 11:04 PM (0deF2)


Thank you, Sir.

As an aside, does your chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost overnight?

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 11:06 PM (Cviw2)

279 I drove a Pinto. That piece of crap was an automatic transmission, which froze up below zero and took a good half and hour to get out of first gear. It never exploded, but I was forewarned and tended to avoid places where that might happen. It was nearly impossible to get the interior of that think clean, which was an issue as a ... ahem.... young adult.

Nevermore.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2017 11:06 PM (NXsWM)

280 196 I guess the ugliest car I ever owned was a Ford Maverick. It wasn't so much ugly as it was just a really shitty car.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 01, 2017 10:44 PM (w+m

? It was a mustang with an uglier body.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 01, 2017 11:06 PM (hscyr)

281 SCIENCE! ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/859092869038190593

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/859092970041208832

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/859093071149101058

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/859093171413929984

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/859093274635759620

Posted by: kbdabear at May 01, 2017 11:06 PM (AOrEZ)

282 198 You'd have thought that he'd beaten her with her own wooden leg.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 01, 2017 10:40 PM (+lVUW)
========================

She was a piece of work.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 01, 2017 10:45 PM (lwiT4)

What? She was a strong independent woman flexing her grrrrl power!

Posted by: Insomniac at May 01, 2017 11:07 PM (0mRoj)

283 I followed the googles here looking for Pantera picture. It look like a pretty cool site

http://bringatrailer.com

Posted by: Grump928(C) has drink taken at May 01, 2017 11:07 PM (LTHVh)

284 "We" won the election across the board and it's the left that is celebrating this fucking POS Budget?

I get madder ever minute

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 01, 2017 11:07 PM (SjImc)

285 More SCIENCE! ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/859093358207270913

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/859093458379788294

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/859093552336429057

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/859093648008507393

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/859093731223457793

Posted by: kbdabear at May 01, 2017 11:07 PM (AOrEZ)

286 one of the ugliest cars to ever hit the road was the old Cintroen (sp?).

The Citroen Ente (Duck) or 2CV. And that Thing was made by VW, I believe, for the African market.

Posted by: t-bird at May 01, 2017 11:07 PM (HwVbl)

287 261 Don't get me started on being an infantryman and having to breach concertina.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at May 01, 2017 10:59 PM

Two words: Bangalore torpedo.
Posted by: Duncanthrax


Yeah, those are fun. Made 'em from scratch, too (u-shaped fence pickets, butt load of C4, couple rolls of 100 mph tape). Thing is, that stuff is heavy. And the boss like watching old-school stuff.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at May 01, 2017 11:08 PM (di1hb)

288 Anybody remember "The Thing"? It was like a jeep but it could be taken apart like an erector set. I forget who produced it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2017 11:05 PM (zc3Db)



VW.

Posted by:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpL9e7Bf98c hogmartin at May 01, 2017 11:06 PM (8nWyX)

Senator Burr (NC) has a Thing. The top doesn't go up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpL9e7Bf98c

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 11:09 PM (Cviw2)

289 You mean like long-settled Turks and Germans getting together to beat on gangs of rape-fugees?
Local story. Even AFP won't carry it.


Yeah, it's hard to know what's actually happening when the news goes through the filter of political correctness.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 01, 2017 11:09 PM (+lVUW)

290 station wagons, as a class, are fucking ugly and men should never drive one.

Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 11:09 PM (cPsPa)

291 We always had a station wagon when I was growing up. My brothers and I fought over who got to be in the "way back." I thought that was an expression only my family used!
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 01, 2017 10:58 PM (TdMsT)


Oh no. We used it (and fought over it) in a 63 Impala Wagon,

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 01, 2017 11:09 PM (EjfPg)

292 "?It was a mustang with an uglier body.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy"

Wow. I rest my case then. Only Ford I ever owned.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 01, 2017 11:09 PM (w+Jhj)

293 Citroen (I.e. Lemon). How can anyone drive a car built by French communists?

Of course, there's always "All parts falling off this car are of the finest British workmanship."

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at May 01, 2017 11:09 PM (+QhzW)

294 still the best looking camaro. they got the first one right, after that, it was pretty much downhill.
Posted by: chavez the hugo
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I will always remember the first Z-28 optioned '67 that I saw.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 01, 2017 11:09 PM (OdK9v)

295 http://bringatrailer.com
Posted by: Grump928(C) has drink taken at May 01, 2017 11:07 PM (LTHVh)


That MR-2 looks pretty sweet TBH. The gearshifts on those are like flicking a lightswitch.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2017 11:09 PM (8nWyX)

296 "Surprised you left Buicks off your list"

I keep seeing classic Rivieras from the 1960s and never having the chance to buy and restore one. This will happen.

As the world turns to shit all around us, and the places that aren't shitty are absorbed into an identical and boring transnational corporate monoculture, there are fewer and fewer places on my travel bucket list.

Instead I want to spruce up old cars with character, ones that don't look like generic transportation modules.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 01, 2017 11:09 PM (qJjMA)

297 >>>Senator Burr (NC) has a Thing.


It's called a vagina


Oh, you were talking about cars?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 01, 2017 11:10 PM (voOPb)

298 279 Anybody remember "The Thing"? It was like a jeep but it could be taken apart like an erector set. I forget who produced it.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2017 11:05 PM (zc3Db)

VW.
Posted by: hogmartin


Basically, it was the German WW II Jeep.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at May 01, 2017 11:10 PM (di1hb)

299 All true. But, they all defeat the purpose of having a remote instead of a key.

You gotta hand it to the thieves: coming up with a repeater to extend the range of your remote is pretty clever.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 01, 2017 11:04 PM (R+30W)

You have to be some kind of lazy to not be able to use a key to start your car.

GM used to have ignition locks with a "garage" position. The key could be removed from the lock in the ignition off position, and the lock turned without the key ( a grip was provided) to run, and start. To actually lock the ignition, you had to turn the key one notch past "off" to "garage" and remove the key.

I saw such a lock a few weeks ago on a '62 Impala. I once owned a '64 Vauxhall Victor that had the same arrangement.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 01, 2017 11:10 PM (0deF2)

300 Mark Donohue was a god to me.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 01, 2017 11:10 PM (OdK9v)

301 146 "but they left out the Smart Car and the PT Cruiser"

No joke, I once gave up on taking a trip for vacation because all they had available at the rental car lot were PT cruisers. (Only one place to rent cars)
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 01, 2017 10:34 PM (w+Jhj)



Would have cancelled my vacation, too. PT cruisers are hideous.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 01, 2017 11:11 PM (TdMsT)

302 Surprised you left Buicks off your list



An ugly car was a 73 Chryselr New Port and drank gas like there was no tomorrow
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May




by the way, I think about that every time I come across a lucerne.

Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 11:11 PM (cPsPa)

303 I get madder ever minute

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 01, 2017 11:07 PM (SjImc)


Pace yourself, there's lots more to come!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 01, 2017 11:11 PM (gwPgz)

304 "I will always remember the first Z-28 optioned '67 that I saw.

Posted by: Mike Hammer"

They only made 602 of them.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 01, 2017 11:11 PM (w+Jhj)

305 All true. But, they all defeat the purpose of having a remote instead of a key.

You gotta hand it to the thieves: coming up with a repeater to extend the range of your remote is pretty clever.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 01, 2017 11:04 PM (R+30W)



Yeah, totally worth it to avoid having to stick a key into a lock. Pretty difficult stuff.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 01, 2017 11:12 PM (SRKgf)

306 The only new car I've owned was a Gremlin. It was the only one on the West Coast with positraction. You could fit a bale of hay in the back. We drove it till the body fell apart.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 01, 2017 11:12 PM (Lqy/e)

307 >>>by the way, I think about that every time I come across a lucerne.


Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 01, 2017 11:12 PM (voOPb)

308 Oh, you were talking about cars?



Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 01, 2017 11:10 PM (voOPb)


Yes!
The family owned a Chrysler Imperial.

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 11:12 PM (Cviw2)

309 Evening all.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 01, 2017 11:12 PM (D2vc1)

310 65 VW beetle, 72 Coupe De Ville, 51 Ford F1 pickup, 70 Chevelle, 74 Ford F250 pickup, 58 Chevy stepside pickup, B61 Mack, all beautiful.

Posted by: Eromero at May 01, 2017 11:13 PM (zLDYs)

311 302: me too hammer. the sunoco camaro in the trans am series. beautiful racecar.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 01, 2017 11:13 PM (KP5rU)

312 "How the fuck does slap keep doing that?"

Slap is actually Ace, who is schizophrenic and all the cobs as well...

it's like "Fight Club", but with Value-Rite

Posted by: Grad School Fool at May 01, 2017 11:13 PM (swEzU)

313 "GM used to have ignition locks with a "garage"
position. The key could be removed from the lock in the ignition off
position, and the lock turned without the key ( a grip was provided) to
run, and start. To actually lock the ignition, you had to turn the key one notch past "off" to "garage" and remove the key.



I saw such a lock a few weeks ago on a '62 Impala. I once owned a '64 Vauxhall Victor that had the same arrangement.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon"

Yep. The 63 Impala and the 70 Nova I had did that.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 01, 2017 11:13 PM (w+Jhj)

314 278

The thing was made in WWII by volkswagen. They made the thing in the 70-80s. Very simple and a blast to have.

The DS Citroen were tech marvels and one of those so ugly you had to like it. The suspension was hydraculic and were called a plumbers nightmare. Very cool car a friend's dad had one. Fiberglass roof, aluminum body, front wheel drive with the front wheels wider than the rear for road handling. The POSs were the Citroen-Maserati cars. pretty bitching when running but not running much. I guy that I started consulting with had one.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 01, 2017 11:14 PM (cOHS7)

315 Forgot the '67 Chevelle.

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 11:14 PM (Cviw2)

316 "We drove it till the body fell apart."

So, about 20,000 miles.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at May 01, 2017 11:14 PM (CKGym)

317 302 Mark Donohue was a god to me.


I'm assuming you mean the guy who owned the Talladega Superspeedway speed record in a Porsche 917-30?

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 01, 2017 11:14 PM (pY+s4)

318 I saw such a lock a few weeks ago on a '62 Impala. I once owned a '64 Vauxhall Victor that had the same arrangement.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
------------

You probably remember also that GM keys had 'Knockouts', that allowed you to remove and keep a key number, separate from the key itself.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 01, 2017 11:14 PM (OdK9v)

319 Anybody remember "The Thing"? It was like a jeep but it could be taken apart like an erector set. I forget who produced it.

Wasn't the Thing just a rebranded Wehrmacht Kubelwagon?

Posted by: Beartooth at May 01, 2017 11:15 PM (61c4R)

320 Well, I promised myself I was going to go to sleep earlier tonight. Have fun ya'll.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 01, 2017 11:16 PM (w+Jhj)

321 And that Thing was made by VW, I believe, for the African market.

Posted by: t-bird at May 01, 2017 11:07 PM (HwVbl)

They sold them in North America, too. VW was hip to the fact that a great many Beetles had been turned into dune buggies, and sought some of that market for their own toy. So they built a knockoff of their WWII Kubelwagen, and sold it as "The Thing".

I wouldn't call it "ugly". It was designed to look industrial/utilitarian, and sort of military, so there was purpose behind it. Truly ugly cars are those that were designed to be beautiful, but missed the boat. Edsel being the crown jewel.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 01, 2017 11:16 PM (0deF2)

322 station wagons, as a class, are fucking ugly and men should never drive one.
Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 11:09 PM (cPsPa)


Strongly disagree. There's nothing un-manly about being able to haul ham radio antennas, lumber, furniture, and just generally boxes of random shit in a lockable climate-controlled environment that happens to also be a 5-speed AWD vehicle.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2017 11:17 PM (8nWyX)

323 I'm assuming you mean the guy who owned the Talladega Superspeedway speed record in a Porsche 917-30?

Posted by: Puddleglum
------------

I think in terms of Can Am championships, but yes, same fellow. Died too young.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 01, 2017 11:17 PM (OdK9v)

324 286 "We" won the election across the board and it's the left that is celebrating this fucking POS Budget?

I get madder ever minute
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 01, 2017 11:07 PM (SjImc)

2017... that's why you got Trump....

2019... that's why there is a new Conservative Party....

Posted by: Don Q. at May 01, 2017 11:18 PM (NgKpN)

325 293 We always had a station wagon when I was growing up. My brothers and I fought over who got to be in the "way back." I thought that was an expression only my family used!
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 01, 2017 10:58 PM (TdMsT)

Oh no. We used it (and fought over it) in a 63 Impala Wagon,
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 01, 2017 11:09 PM (EjfPg)



Cherry red Ford Falcon station wagon, then a huge 1964 Ford Country Squire station wagon.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 01, 2017 11:18 PM (TdMsT)

326 station wagons, as a class, are fucking ugly and men should never drive one.
Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 11:09 PM (cPsPa)

Strongly disagree. There's nothing un-manly about being able to haul ham radio antennas, lumber, furniture, and just generally boxes of random shit in a lockable climate-controlled environment that happens to also be a 5-speed AWD vehicle.
Posted by: hogmartin at May




suvs and trucks. what are you driving a subaru?

Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 11:18 PM (cPsPa)

327 'Night Robt.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 01, 2017 11:18 PM (OdK9v)

328 Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2017 11:17 PM (8nWyX)

SWs were very handy in my job

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 01, 2017 11:18 PM (voOPb)

329 Basically, it was the German WW II Jeep.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at May 01, 2017 11:10 PM (di1hb)

Except it was nowhere near as capable offroad as was the original Kubelwagen. All hat, no cattle. A boulevard cruiser.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 01, 2017 11:19 PM (0deF2)

330 326 286 "We" won the election across the board and it's the left that is celebrating this fucking POS Budget?

I get madder ever minute
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 01, 2017 11:07 PM (SjImc)

2017... that's why you got Trump....

2019... that's why there is a new Conservative Party....
Posted by: Don Q. at May 01, 2017 11:18 PM (NgKpN)



THIS!!! Thank you!!!

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 01, 2017 11:19 PM (TdMsT)

331 You have to be some kind of lazy to not be able to use a key to start your car.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 01, 2017 11:10 PM (0deF2)

++++

I can't see paying for that kind of useless convenience, but I'm probably not their target consumer.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 01, 2017 11:20 PM (R+30W)

332 324 station wagons, as a class, are fucking ugly and men should never drive one.
Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 11:09 PM (cPsPa)

Strongly disagree. There's nothing un-manly about being able to haul ham radio antennas, lumber, furniture, and just generally boxes of random shit in a lockable climate-controlled environment that happens to also be a 5-speed AWD vehicle.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2017 11:17 PM (8nWyX)

Pontiac Catalina Station Wagon... with a 440...

Dad put oversized tires on it.... took MANY MANY 'hotrods' off the line... (back when I was 1

Posted by: Don Q. at May 01, 2017 11:20 PM (NgKpN)

333 The POSs were the Citroen-Maserati cars. pretty bitching when running but not running much. I guy that I started consulting with had one.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious
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Pfft. Have you forgotten the Maserati/K-car?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 01, 2017 11:20 PM (OdK9v)

334 325: I'm more of an Endurance Racing fan though I don't follow it as closely as I used too. He did die to young.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 01, 2017 11:21 PM (pY+s4)

335 suvs and trucks. what are you driving a subaru?
Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 11:18 PM (cPsPa)


http://stoatnet.org/car.jpg

Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2017 11:21 PM (8nWyX)

336 Pretty cars i have had:

67 Mustang Fastback
62 Westphalia VW Camper
64 Westphalia VW Camper
73 Fiat 124 Spyder*
72 3.0 Cs
59 Chevy Apache Fleetside
80 Mustang 5.0 LX Convertible
79 633 CSI
82 928S*
68 Cadillac DeVille Convertible
68 Clark Cortez RV

Wish I had kept most of them.

* GREAT but rarely ran.



Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 01, 2017 11:21 PM (cOHS7)

337 308 The only new car I've owned was a Gremlin. It was the only one on the West Coast with positraction. You could fit a bale of hay in the back. We drove it till the body fell apart.

------

Naw. You're WRONG.

Posted by: Mona Lisa Vito at May 01, 2017 11:21 PM (JZdsf)

338 If you took a wire brush to a key belonging to a GM Saturn circa 1998 - 2003 ish, you could open any other one.

Ask me how I know.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 01, 2017 11:21 PM (GgzGa)

339 You have to be some kind of lazy to not be able to use a key to start your car.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
-----------

Note also that the remote requires a battery.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 01, 2017 11:21 PM (OdK9v)

340 Wasn't the Thing just a rebranded Wehrmacht Kubelwagon?


Posted by: Beartooth at May 01, 2017 11:15 PM


Not exactly, no. A lot of common components, visually similar, but a different vehicle.

Posted by: otho at May 01, 2017 11:22 PM (lmIoG)

341 Nene got tossed off the court

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 01, 2017 11:23 PM (0F26Z)

342 Damn, I've been around just about every car on that list. Rented a Geo Tracker in Aruba. A plastic deathtrap. Buddy's father had a Pacer which had so much glass in it, it was basically a sauna on wheels. Friends of mine had a Gremlin (we once fit 10 people in it), a Pinto which I actually liked, and a Cherokee which the guy who owned it loved. Guy GAVE my father a two year old Matador because he was so sick of fixing it. Also the Boston cops had them for cruisers for a couple of years and would get serenaded with, "Hey, Mattttttador!" whenever they drove by.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 01, 2017 11:23 PM (qJhUV)

343 Good night, all!


All of O Canada:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXFXXeoC4k0

Posted by: Vendette at May 01, 2017 11:24 PM (Cviw2)

344 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 01, 2017 11:24 PM (IcT7t)

345 Moss as a bandage.
-----------

Cobwebs.

Of course, AtC would rather bleed to death.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 01, 2017 11:25 PM (OdK9v)

346 @318,
No, that was the point we used bungie cords to hold the doors shut. The metal around the door posts failed. Then the windows would just shatter. I had better luck with the Buicks and Ramblers in my life.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 01, 2017 11:25 PM (Lqy/e)

347 286 "We" won the election across the board and it's the left that is celebrating this fucking POS Budget?

I get madder ever minute
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 01, 2017 11:07 PM (SjImc)



If I think about it any more tonight, I'm going to have to take a sleeping pill. Iv been livid with rage all day.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 01, 2017 11:26 PM (TdMsT)

348 '78 Choomobile

Posted by: Prez'nit Mincemeat at May 01, 2017 11:26 PM (Tyii7)

349 suvs and trucks. what are you driving a subaru?

Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 11:18 PM (cPsPa)

Back in the day, station wagons were serious haulers, and usually had better handling than their sedan stablemates. I have a Studebaker Wagonaire like this with the sliding roof, and yes, I have hauled a fridge upright in it, along with my welding tanks upright.


http://preview.tinyurl.com/ltotakq

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 01, 2017 11:27 PM (0deF2)

350 Step #1. Post a comment on the previous thread. Cut it.

Step#2. Scroll down a few notches, so as to expose the "comments" link.

Step #3. Paste and hit "post".

I'm a "giver". I also don't mind competition.

Love you, Horde!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at May 01, 2017 10:16 PM (6gk0M)

This makes no sense to me.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 01, 2017 11:27 PM (D2vc1)

351 suvs and trucks. what are you driving a subaru?
Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 11:18 PM (cPsPa)

http://stoatnet.org/car.jpg
Posted by: hogmartin at May




subaru's are only quasi-station wagons. friend has an amg wagon, rather he bought one for his wife. goes like a rocket or any of the things my grandfather used to say to indicate speed that are horrifying, but it is still a wagon.

Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 11:28 PM (cPsPa)

352 Don't laugh, there used to be letters like that in Ann Landers. "I met this guy and he's really great. He treats me like a princess. Except he has a drinking problem and he can't hold down a job. "
--

Now those kind of stories end badly and end up on Discovery ID, usually on the show "Web of Lies." "I met this guy online and he's the greatest but..."

Posted by: shibumi at May 01, 2017 11:28 PM (8zWAk)

353 Black mood. So take this for what it is. Is there anyone in America who does not have an EBT card? We could build that wall I think with all the money in EBT cards. And my gripe is not the illegals, other minorities, or the low life scammers. It is about all the clearly, middle and upper class, not suffering, SUV driving, iphone sporting middle to upper middle class women I see locally in my stores (and I worked in a grocery store) who have them and are kind of proud of it -- or treat it like just another credit card for the small things.

In this case it was a Boars Head meat and cheese wrap and chips. Unfortunately Miss EBT was unaware that heated or warm sammies are considered hot food and not covered. A little scene and she moves on.

Don't even try and convince me of the needy children at home, the spouse , husband, partner who did her wrong and split. The lost job. Nope, I see it too often up close and personal.

And what about the people who truly need assistance? They get little and barely get by. Same as the elderly, the truly sick, who are denied or made to jump through hoops to get limited amounts of needed opioids and pain killers. I will spare you that rant.

Thanks. Sometimes it just all too much. Abuse of entitlements is costing us dearly.

Posted by: gracepc at May 01, 2017 11:29 PM (OU4q6)

354 I really want a Ford Falcon Station Wagon, maybe red, with the flares that used to be fins, and the rocket lights on the back. I would look like a queen driving that three on a tree. I learned to drive in one (it wasn't red, but that's okay) and I drove that baby into the ground.

Of course, there's nothing wrong with a pony, 1964 1/2 or so, maybe newer, but not a fastback. Those are really for the boys, IMO.

I'd settle for a Rambler Station Wagon. I need something that can haul hockey equipment for the boy and camping equipment for the mom and dad. I'm all about style AND substance.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2017 11:29 PM (NXsWM)

355 The '88 Wienermobile was the penultimate iteration of the concept. The ones since then are mere cocktail wienies in the general category of sausage-inspired automotive design.

Posted by: Anthony Wiener at May 01, 2017 11:30 PM (JZdsf)

356 We" won the election across the board and it's the left that is celebrating this fucking POS Budget?


I get madder ever minute
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 01, 2017 11:07 PM (SjImc)


If I think about it any more tonight, I'm going to have to take a sleeping pill. Iv been livid with rage all day.

--

Yep.

There was this suggestion at Gateway Pundit: Force a no confidence vote on traitor rat Ryan.

Not sure if we can do that, but I'm angry. Eff the RINOs.


Posted by: shibumi at May 01, 2017 11:30 PM (8zWAk)

357 Prettiest car I owned was a 1976 Cadillac Eldorado Biaritz in tangerine flake with leather everything and moon roof. A real dreamboat that had everyone staring with jealousy.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 01, 2017 11:30 PM (jzdPq)

358 in the day, station wagons were serious haulers, and usually had better handling than their sedan stablemates. I have a Studebaker Wagonaire like this with the sliding roof, and yes, I have hauled a fridge upright in it, along with my welding tanks upright.


http://preview.tinyurl.com/ltotakq
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May




Oh I know that. when I was a kid we would take road trips in a big beautiful buick station wagon. my sister and I would get the back with some foam mats and sleeping bags and when no one was looking we would put our feet up on the tailgate with the window rolled down.

Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 11:30 PM (cPsPa)

359 Thanks. Sometimes it just all too much. Abuse of entitlements is costing us dearly.
Posted by: gracepc at May 01, 2017 11:29 PM (OU4q6)

My personal fave? Getting aced out of a handicap parking space by some fool who's driving grandpa's car and pulls right in front of my husband, who can't walk very far and really needs it. I never use it when he isn't in the car. I guess I'm the chump, huh?

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2017 11:31 PM (NXsWM)

360 I'm so sorry to intrude on all the levity of the ONT with a prayer request. I just got off the phone with a dear, dear friend who is going through hell bc of a drug addiction in her family. Please pray for her and her family. You can call her JB. Thanks in advance.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 01, 2017 11:32 PM (Rsi2C)

361 Posted by: The Political Hat at May 01, 2017 10:04 PM (vBeA5)

And if it hasn't been mentioned tonight, today is an official holiday -- Loyalty Day, to salute and appreciate all that is good about this country. Anybody see any parades, marches, etc?

Trump made an official proclamation. It is said that Presidents reaffirm it every year. Hmmm.

Posted by: gracepc at May 01, 2017 11:33 PM (OU4q6)

362 356 I really want a Ford Falcon Station Wagon, maybe red, with the flares that used to be fins, and the rocket lights on the back. I would look like a queen driving that three on a tree. I learned to drive in one (it wasn't red, but that's okay) and I drove that baby into the ground.

Of course, there's nothing wrong with a pony, 1964 1/2 or so, maybe newer, but not a fastback. Those are really for the boys, IMO.

I'd settle for a Rambler Station Wagon. I need something that can haul hockey equipment for the boy and camping equipment for the mom and dad. I'm all about style AND substance.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2017 11:29 PM (NXsWM)



When I was a child, I remember being mildly embarrassed by the cherry red Ford Falcon station wagon my mom bought. It was our family's first "second" car. Back in the dark ages when I was young, many families had only one car, even in affluent neighborhoods.

I would love to have that car today!

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 01, 2017 11:33 PM (TdMsT)

363 357 The '88 Wienermobile was the penultimate iteration of the concept. The ones since then are mere cocktail wienies in the general category of sausage-inspired automotive design.
Posted by: Anthony Wiener at May 01, 2017 11:30 PM (JZdsf)

Did you know that you have to get straight A's in school to drive one? There is quite a contentious lottery as well. It's a very high honor.

We actually had one come up to Alaska this past month. I had never seen one this far north. And yes, weiner whistles, FTW.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2017 11:33 PM (NXsWM)

364 You can call her JB. Thanks in advance.
Posted by: L, Elle at May 01, 2017 11:32 PM (Rsi2C)

I'll just call her "God's Child." On it.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2017 11:34 PM (NXsWM)

365 362 I'm so sorry to intrude on all the levity of the ONT with a prayer request. I just got off the phone with a dear, dear friend who is going through hell bc of a drug addiction in her family. Please pray for her and her family. You can call her JB. Thanks in advance.
Posted by: L, Elle at May 01, 2017 11:32 PM (Rsi2C)


Oh gosh--addiction is awful. Just said a prayer for JB and family.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 01, 2017 11:35 PM (TdMsT)

366 I really want a Ford Falcon Station Wagon, maybe red, with the flares that used to be fins, and the rocket lights on the back. I would look like a queen driving that three on a tree. I learned to drive in one (it wasn't red, but that's okay) and I drove that baby into the ground.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2017 11:29 PM (NXsWM


That's my One That Got Away. I was 15 (mid 1990s) and there was a turquoise Falcon 2-door with the 3-speed for $1500 or something in the parking lot of the D&W grocery store for about a month. Didn't have a license or a job, so...

Haven't seen the like since.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2017 11:35 PM (8nWyX)

367 I would love to have that car today!
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 01, 2017 11:33 PM (TdMsT)

Just think of how you'd look in that beauty! Mm... and a backseat with plenty of room for... that.... yeah.... that.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2017 11:36 PM (NXsWM)

368 Posted by: L, Elle at May 01, 2017 11:32 PM (Rsi2C)

Prayers for sure. Addiction affects not only the addict but friends and family as well. It's an odd thing when the active addict thinks they are only hurting themselves. So, yeah prayers for your friend and all those involved.

Posted by: gracepc at May 01, 2017 11:36 PM (OU4q6)

369 There was this suggestion at Gateway Pundit: Force a no confidence vote on traitor rat Ryan.

Not sure if we can do that, but I'm angry. Eff the RINOs.


Posted by: shibumi at May 01, 2017 11:30 PM (8zWAk)


Meh. Those Congresscritter douchebags knew exactly what they were doing when they first elected the little worm and then when they had no problem re-electing him after he had forced that anti-American POS spending bill through that was Barky's wet dream and took all spending issues off the table for the election. And the Freedom Caucus had a lot to do with all this, as most of them folded like cheap suits.

These GOP Congresscritters are just totally worthless pieces of shit and there's nothing that's going to be done about that. They are scum of the first order, with a smattering of cowards and useful idiots for the dems.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2017 11:38 PM (zc3Db)

370 A Spur got the boot, too

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 01, 2017 11:38 PM (0F26Z)

371 I think our buick was a buick estate wagon.




in some weird set of events it seems buick is comoing out with a new wagon this year.

Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 11:38 PM (cPsPa)

372 L,Elle,
Prayers up.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 01, 2017 11:39 PM (Ri/rl)

373 Let's see, I have had dealings with two of the Ugly Cars:

A girlfriend drove a Pacer. Longest damn ride ever I ever took, from Cleveland to the U.P. / Charlevoix if I remember correctly - I was mortified being seen in that damn thing. She refused to drive all that way in my CJ-5. I was a wuss...

Best friend in college drove a Gremlin, he called it the Blue Goose. Damn thing lived forever. He sent out an obit when the beast finally gave up the ghost. I have that obit saved somewhere in my files - it was f'n hilarious.

Posted by: browndog at May 01, 2017 11:40 PM (bGMOs)

374 225 {Paul McCartney made his wife drive a PT Cruiser}

She probably had enough of silly love songs.

Do me a favor. Open the door and let her in.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr
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I hear you knocking, but you can't come in.
Posted by: Smiley Lewis at May 01, 2017 10:52 PM (OdK9v)


She's got a ticket to ride but she don't care.

Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) at May 01, 2017 11:40 PM (nvMvs)

375 you know I do kind of like that chrysler 300 wagon, saw one in all black, probably what darth vader would drive, if he drove a wagon.

Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 11:40 PM (cPsPa)

376 Ferarri estate wagons are particularly useful.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 01, 2017 11:41 PM (jzdPq)

377 My personal fave? Getting aced out of a handicap parking space by some fool who's driving grandpa's car and pulls right in front of my husband, who can't walk very far and really needs it. I never use it when he isn't in the car. I guess I'm the chump, huh?

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2017 11:31 PM (NXsWM)


Frankly, those public handicapped spots should all go. If someone can drive a car they can get from the car to wherever else.

I'm sick of all this handicapped bullshit. Most of it is fraud, now, as always happens with these things. Just like most "service animals" are now fraudulent. You almost never even see a real seeing-eye dog anymore, but you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a "comfort boa constrictor" ...

There's no reason that handicapped people have to have the best spots. Shit, if they want to just save some random spots for handicapped people (which I still oppose) then that is one thing, but to demand that they must get THE BEST spaces is just asinine and indefensible.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2017 11:44 PM (zc3Db)

378 I owned a 76 Gremlin. Great car after I made it a concert on wheels. I recall cruising the streets of Detroit about two A.M. with a couple friends and a quarter barrel in the back and shooting bottle rockets out the windows at buildings. Too bad everything broke on it between 45,000 and 55,000 miles.

Posted by: Bill R. at May 01, 2017 11:44 PM (jKUeC)

379 Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2017 11:31 PM (NXsWM)

Me too. It does make me angry. You never know a person's disability of course. But I have seen people, bent over, shuffling and making it on their own into a store without benefit of a handicapped sticker. And then there are others ...

I did call the cops once and report one.

Posted by: gracepc at May 01, 2017 11:45 PM (OU4q6)

380 You almost never even see a real seeing-eye dog anymore, but you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a "comfort boa constrictor" ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair


And then the boa swallows the cat!! It's a pickle, I tells ya!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2017 11:47 PM (qazQh)

381
I drive a Rolls-Royce shooting-brake.

Posted by: Vivian Francis Bulkely-Johnson at May 01, 2017 11:47 PM (OdK9v)

382 Also, who are all these people who want to swing a dead cat?

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2017 11:48 PM (qazQh)

383 The Bentley pickup is also useful.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 01, 2017 11:49 PM (jzdPq)

384 I did call the cops once and report one.

Posted by: gracepc at May 01, 2017 11:45 PM (OU4q6)


That's not right. The fault is not with those who realize that they have to get those stickers to even be able to park in lots of places. The fault is with the various governments that force those spaces to be taken away from anyone else (the same douchebags who waste road space on friggin bike lanes, trying to turn us into China or something). They have made a nasty and rigged game and I fault no one who does what needs to be done to be able to operate normally in such an insane environment.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2017 11:49 PM (zc3Db)

385 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2017 11:44 PM (zc3Db)

I am a big animal lover and could not agree more on this "comfort" animal thing. Totally out of control.

Re. handicapped. Good points. But I have seen people who park in them, use the motorized carts etc. and then drive. These people can barely move, let alone drive.

Posted by: gracepc at May 01, 2017 11:49 PM (OU4q6)

386 yeah, somewhere along the way handicapped stickers became status symbols. probably has something to do with everyone claiming disability.

our building has three parking areas. main lot, back lot, and over flow lot. each lot has a separate set of handicapped parking spots. the spots in the main lot are immediately in front of the front doors. the spots in the back lot are around the back of the building by a service entrance. the spots in the overflow lot are way the fuck away from everywhere and everything but they are the closest to the entrance of the overflow lot.

Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 11:49 PM (cPsPa)

387 Also, who are all these people who want to swing a dead cat?
Posted by: qdpsteve
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Me, for one.

Posted by: Huck Finn at May 01, 2017 11:50 PM (OdK9v)

388 369 I would love to have that car today!
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 01, 2017 11:33 PM (TdMsT)

Just think of how you'd look in that beauty! Mm... and a backseat with plenty of room for... that.... yeah.... that.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2017 11:36 PM (NXsWM)


You are right--I would look FINE in a '63 cherry red Ford Falcon station wagon! But I'm keeping he back seats pristine!

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 01, 2017 11:50 PM (TdMsT)

389 You almost never even see a real seeing-eye dog anymore, but you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a "comfort boa constrictor" ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair




not so sure the dogs are a good thing, seems like it really sucks for the dog.

Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 11:51 PM (cPsPa)

390 Also, who are all these people who want to swing a dead cat?

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2017 11:48 PM (qazQh)


Why not? What would you do with a dead cat?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2017 11:51 PM (zc3Db)

391 389 Also, who are all these people who want to swing a dead cat?
Posted by: qdpsteve

---------

How do you know if it's dead?

Posted by: E. Schrodinger at May 01, 2017 11:51 PM (JZdsf)

392 Why not? What would you do with a dead cat?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair


"Hello, Panda Express?..."

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2017 11:52 PM (qazQh)

393 How do you know if it's dead?
Posted by: E. Schrodinger




the important thing is that it is when you stop swinging.

Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 11:53 PM (cPsPa)

394 But I have seen people who park in them, use the motorized carts etc. and then drive. These people can barely move, let alone drive.

Posted by: gracepc at May 01, 2017 11:49 PM (OU4q6)


Yeah ... they probably shouldn't be on the road, to begin with.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2017 11:53 PM (zc3Db)

395 Geeze. A young father brought his daughter (probably about 10 years old) by today. They were looking for her kitten, which had wandered away from home.

I felt awful for the kid, she was distraught.

Posted by: Huck Finn at May 01, 2017 11:53 PM (OdK9v)

396 Oops
/Huck Finn

Posted by: Huck Finn at May 01, 2017 11:53 PM (OdK9v)

397
79 633 CSI

I always loved these.

The 633/635 csi was sweet.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 01, 2017 11:53 PM (xPaE+)

398 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2017 11:44 PM (zc3Db)

I agree. In my case I have no regrets. It was a young, fit, laughing with his arm around his girlfriend kid. Did not bother me at all.

Posted by: gracepc at May 01, 2017 11:54 PM (OU4q6)

399 My prettiest car was the 61 Pontiac Bonneville.
absolutely love the roof line, it's called the "bubble top". Chevy Impala shared the same design.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 01, 2017 11:54 PM (S/hVx)

400 I always loved these.

The 633/635 csi was sweet.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class




they always look great when they come out but they do not age well.

usually bmws do not age as well as mercedes. much as I am fond of audis they age horribly. you rarely come across old audis.

Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 11:57 PM (cPsPa)

401 Why not? What would you do with a dead cat?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
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Tom: "Say -- what is dead cats good for, Huck?"

Huck: "Good for? Cure warts with."

Tom: "No! Is that so?"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 01, 2017 11:57 PM (OdK9v)

402 was out a while ago and saw you young tough pull his pickup in and park in the electric car charging spot.

Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 11:58 PM (cPsPa)

403 Ooo y5, whadja do to 'im? Attach the chargers to his nipples and zap him good? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2017 11:59 PM (qazQh)

404 usually bmws do not age as well as mercedes. much as I am fond of audis they age horribly. you rarely come across old audis.
Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 11:57 PM (cPsPa)


I miss the old Pre-GM Saabs, the ones that had the ignition next to the parking brake and the big-ass Cessna dashboards. "We make planes, OK? Here's a plane that happens to have four wheels, just deal with it".

Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2017 11:59 PM (8nWyX)

405 My prettiest car was the 61 Pontiac Bonneville.
absolutely love the roof line, it's called the "bubble top". Chevy Impala shared the same design.
Posted by: irongrampa
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Drop a 421 SD in the Pontiac, and we're talking nirvana.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 01, 2017 11:59 PM (OdK9v)

406 Love the last pic, with the map taped to the tank by electrical tape. Evokes bare bones traveling, with the next step backwards being the horse, bedroll and rifle.

Thing is, everyone dreams of hitting the road in such style, yet the bikes covering big miles have gps, yuge fairings, heated this and cooled that...
then of course we hit the road worried we've forgotten something while believing in the image of that pic.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 01, 2017 11:59 PM (z79tQ)

407 My first car was an '84 Cutlass Ciera. Black with red interior. Bench seats. A tape deck. Crappy paint and a huge dent in the fender. The clutch plate had a tendency to get stuck on really cold days and it leaked oil like a sieve. My parents gave 500 for it in 1992.

I loved that car.

Posted by: Aetius451AD's work phone at May 02, 2017 12:00 AM (BNQFT)

408 There's no reason that handicapped people have to have the best spots. Shit, if they want to just save some random spots for handicapped people (which I still oppose) then that is one thing, but to demand that they must get THE BEST spaces is just asinine and indefensible.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2017 11:44 PM (zc3Db)

Well, if you can carry my husband from the car to the door, then more power to you. He's 6'6 and goes about 300. He is missing the discs between his lower three vertebra, and he moves not only slowly but carefully, and not far if he can help it. If you want to take away his ability to go to the grocery store, the theater, the damned hockey rink to see his boy play, then by all means, keep that broomstick stuck firmly up your backside.

Just because he isn't in a wheelchair doesn't mean he can't benefit from the help.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 02, 2017 12:00 AM (NXsWM)

409 was out a while ago and saw you young tough pull his pickup in and park in the electric car charging spot.

Posted by: yankefifth at May 01, 2017 11:58 PM (cPsPa)

Heh. All you'd need to get away with that would be a dummy charging cable coming out of a little door on the body.

"It's a plug-in hybrid, officer. Would I lie to you?"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 02, 2017 12:01 AM (0deF2)

410
much as I am fond of audis they age horribly

the Audi Fox is still kinda cute -- but they've all rusted away

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 02, 2017 12:02 AM (xPaE+)

411 I emailed my GOP Senator and told him that there is no point in voting anymore. We gave the GOP everything they said they needed and we still got Schumer's budget. I told him it was time to "go dark" and " see you all on the other side".
Probably already sent to trash.

Posted by: free tibet, with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at May 02, 2017 12:02 AM (CL76w)

412 Yeah ... they probably shouldn't be on the road, to begin with.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2017 11:53 PM (zc3Db)

Imma think that you probably shouldn't be either, what with all that anger and no place to go.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 02, 2017 12:02 AM (NXsWM)

413 Beautiful cars? The Mitsubishi Eclipse.

Too bad they were built to last about as long as a loaf of bread.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 02, 2017 12:02 AM (qazQh)

414 Oh and one time the entire dash board went out in the middle of the night on a country highway.

Posted by: Aetius451AD's work phone at May 02, 2017 12:03 AM (BNQFT)

415
the 97-98 Lincoln Mark VIII was a great looking coupe

Lincolns are just terrible today.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 02, 2017 12:03 AM (xPaE+)

416 G'Night, Horde. Babysitting out of town for #2 grandchild. I hope I can sleep.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 02, 2017 12:03 AM (TdMsT)

417 You are right--I would look FINE in a '63 cherry red Ford Falcon station wagon! But I'm keeping he back seats pristine!
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 01, 2017 11:50 PM (TdMsT)

Naturally, once the boy gets to hockey practice, the back seat will be pristine....

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 02, 2017 12:04 AM (NXsWM)

418 I miss the old Pre-GM Saabs, the ones that had the ignition next to the parking brake and the big-ass Cessna dashboards. "We make planes, OK? Here's a plane that happens to have four wheels, just deal with it".

Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2017 11:59 PM (8nWyX)

I had to work on a Saab 9000 once. Owner had gotten drunked-up at a rural party, and had gone 4-wheeling in his Saab. Hit an oil standpipe, and took out the oil pan and the engine cradle, both cast aluminum. Ouch.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 02, 2017 12:04 AM (0deF2)

419 So if all the handicapped spaces are full, would a car with a handicapped sticker be ticketed for parking in a non-handicapped space?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 02, 2017 12:04 AM (vChNs)

420
My first car was old. 12 years old! It was a 73 Monte Carlo. It seemed ancient in 1985.

Today, I drive the same car I bought new in 2001.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 02, 2017 12:05 AM (xPaE+)

421 Posted by: Aetius451AD's work phone at May 02, 2017 12:00 AM (BNQFT)

I had one of those
Paint was horrible
But I got 200k on it before getting a differnt set of wheels

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 02, 2017 12:06 AM (voOPb)

422 I have to disagree with the Gremlin being on the list. Second car I ever owned was a 72 Gremlin with a 232 straight 6. In 1973 when I got it, anything over 20 mpg was miraculous. I got 18 in the city, 24 on the highway. In Denver, the intersection between I-25 and I-70 used to be called the mousetrap before they rebuilt it for safety, and eastbound I-70 had this really tight curve. Noting that this was before traffic cams, I went through the mousetrap indicating 120 mph, and the thing was like it was on rails. The 1973 Toyota that was . . . pacing . . . me backed off because it was starting to qualify for a pilots license.

I once had to get 8 adults and a baby all with luggage to Kansas City from Denver in a hurry. It was tight, but we did it in under 12 hours.

With a couple of wrenches and a screwdriver, you could maintain it in your driveway doing most anything. The only thing wrong is that it ate starters, but they cost $29, and it took 10 minutes to swap out anywhere with two wrenches after jacking up one side.

They were sturdy. Mine died when I came around a corner and over a hill on I-25 at 55 mph and found that there were a semi and two cars parked in my lane. I slowed down some, but the impact shortened the car by about 2 feet. But it held together, and the steering wheel did NOT snap so I did not catch the steering column in the chest. If I could get one today, I would.

What killed it was the pollution regs when they came in. The changes to the engines from '74 on killed both the mileage and the power and it was last made in 1978.

Posted by: Subotai Bahadur at May 02, 2017 12:07 AM (MfnRo)

423 Susan Rice admits that spying on and unmasking the names of Americans who are political enemies of the Obama administration is nothing unusual and was SOP.

http://tinyurl.com/k5qkyov

Or at least that is how I take her statement.

Posted by: geoffb5 at May 02, 2017 12:07 AM (d3wbb)

424 Thing is, everyone dreams of hitting the road in such style, yet the bikes covering big miles have gps, yuge fairings, heated this and cooled that...
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Not necessarily. Some the Iron Butt riders do it on fairly minimalist bikes.

I've ridden probably 250,000 miles on 'standard' bikes. Tank bag, small saddlebags. Nothing larger than an air-cooled 750.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 02, 2017 12:07 AM (OdK9v)

425 13
Judy Collins. Ugh

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 01, 2017 10:02 PM (oAY8z)

Lord God she is like fingernails glued to a drill on a blackboard. this isnt her
,thank the gracious Lord. But it is her song
If you want me, ill be in the bar.
http://tinyurl.com/lu6jj4s

Posted by: redclay at May 02, 2017 12:07 AM (fpmcn)

426
We have some nasty weather moving through, guess I'll call it a night, we're gonna lose power soon,lights are flickering pretty good.


Goodnite, good people. Stay safe

Posted by: irongrampa at May 02, 2017 12:08 AM (S/hVx)

427 Some of those 232 Gremlins enjoyed success in SCCA road racing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 02, 2017 12:09 AM (OdK9v)

428 One of my favorite cars to run around in back in high school was a good friends 1960's era Rocket 88 Oldsmobile station wagon. Thing weighed a ton, could fit 8 of us in it pretty easily, and had a Rocket 455 engine - we called it the rocket sled. There was a road with some big dips just outside of our part of town (Phoenix before it turned into LA) and boy, it was awesome to get all 5,000 pounds of that car up in the air with all 4 wheels off the ground.

Made a helluva "CRUNCH!" when it landed. And our heads would leave dents on the inside of the roof.

Posted by: Tom Serrvo at May 02, 2017 12:10 AM (V2Yro)

429 Posted by: irongrampa at May 02, 2017 12:08 AM (S/hVx)

Hope you stay high & dry

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 02, 2017 12:10 AM (voOPb)

430 Just because he isn't in a wheelchair doesn't mean he can't benefit from the help.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 02, 2017 12:00 AM (NXsWM)


I'm a mid-late 30's guy and routinely get the stink-eye for remaining seated on the bus or parking in the handicapped spots even with a placard. The weather just went from 30 to 60 degrees and it started raining; if you really want, I'll drop my shorts so you can see the hip replacement scar, otherwise, I'd prefer to remain seated, or park where I can get a bench grinder into the car without causing serious injury.

That's kind of why I tread lightly on the whole service animal thing; not every disability is obvious.

Also stores that provide huge motorized scooters but not ordinary manual wheelchairs are kind of annoying. I was able to rocket through IKEA with my parents in a regular wheelchair, but Sam's Club only has enormous golf carts with all the responsiveness of a battleship, and I'd prefer not to clip peoples' ankles or run into shelves if I can help it.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 02, 2017 12:11 AM (8nWyX)

431 AshleyNBAHoops, 'Rockets vs Spurs game recap': http://tinyurl.com/myly738

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 02, 2017 12:11 AM (6FqZa)

432 Not necessarily. Some the Iron Butt riders do it on fairly minimalist bikes.

I've ridden probably 250,000 miles on 'standard' bikes. Tank bag, small saddlebags. Nothing larger than an air-cooled 750.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 02, 2017 12:07 AM (OdK9v

Oh, I know there are exceptions, but you've got to admit that is what they are. You're out there, you've got eyes.
Not saying it isn't done, just not often.

btw, if you ever have need to waste 40+ minutes, go to the youtube and watch Wheels heading West. Story of a young man on a Honda shadow 750 putting on serious miles, with great music and video to boot.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 02, 2017 12:13 AM (z79tQ)

433 Evening horde

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at May 02, 2017 12:13 AM (nDcc3)

434 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2017 11:44 PM (zc3Db)
My father had CHF, he was on oxygen. I took him to the hospital for a test or procedure. I left to eat and came back to pick him up and parked in the handicap spot(with his placard). Some man started screaming at me and I was in tears walking into the hospital to pick up my dad.

I also had a red (temporary) placard. I had neck fusions and had no range of motion and could not carry anything very far. At the grocery store I wouldn't use it because I preferred to park far away but I had the cart to carry my purchases.

At the mall, I couldn't carry my bags very far and I needed to park close. I was screamed at for parking in the spot a few times by old people. I cried again. You cannot tell what is wrong with someone by just looking.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 02, 2017 12:14 AM (Ri/rl)

435 Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at May 02, 2017 12:13 AM (nDcc3)

Evening

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 02, 2017 12:16 AM (voOPb)

436 Evening horde
Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at May 02, 2017 12:13 AM (nDcc3)


Hiya! Good/bad cars and handicap stickers, looks like. Dig in.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 02, 2017 12:17 AM (8nWyX)

437 CaliGirl, that is horrible.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 02, 2017 12:17 AM (qazQh)

438 That's kind of why I tread lightly on the whole service animal thing; not every disability is obvious.

Also stores that provide huge motorized scooters but not ordinary manual wheelchairs are kind of annoying. I was able to rocket through IKEA with my parents in a regular wheelchair, but Sam's Club only has enormous golf carts with all the responsiveness of a battleship, and I'd prefer not to clip peoples' ankles or run into shelves if I can help it.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 02, 2017 12:11 AM (8nWyX)

I used to judge, I no longer do that.
My Dr will not give those parking placards to just anyone. I asked the receptionist at my Dr's office for the form and she was bitchy with me and told me he's not going to give it to you. He gave me the temporary ones for I believe a couple of years.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 02, 2017 12:18 AM (Ri/rl)

439 Education and the election. Sorry for the length.

Take a Bell curve. We generally look at it and see just the bell shaped area with the highest point in the center. But that curve describes two areas. One the bell shaped and the other its negative which is highest at the ends and lowest in the middle.

If you label the "X" axis "highest education level", "Some HS, HS grad, Some college, 2 year degree, 4 year degree, Masters degree, Doctorate degree" the normal Bell curve height would resemble the voter support for Trump and the other curve's height would resemble the support for Hillary.

In the election the polling companies would "weight" for various factors to make their sample resemble the general population, the registered voters as they existed in the census or likely voter populations that they thought would turnout on election day. However they didn't "weight" for education by comparing to the census but used their own models for how the turnout would be for these various educational level groups.

The most excessive model weighting and the ones which varied the most both from poll to poll and from the census figures was for people which advanced degrees and HS grads. On the low end one poll only over sampled the advanced degree group by 36%. On the high end they oversampled by 103%. The norm was around 70% over sample. For HS grads they were under sampled by amounts that were similar to what the advanced degree people were over sampled.

I don't think now that this was a deliberate action to help Hillary so much as it was a reflection of the pollsters own view of the world where they live which is in areas where most people have at least a 4 year degree and many-many have advanced degrees. They viewed themselves and their friends as highly motivated to vote and so figured that those with higher degrees would so up strongly and the less educated wouldn't.

That this was not reality, this election, has caused the breakdown we see.

http://tinyurl.com/ko99mkn

Posted by: geoffb5 at May 02, 2017 12:18 AM (d3wbb)

440 Didn't Citroen have some kind of design association with Sikorsky?

Posted by: gracepc at May 02, 2017 12:22 AM (OU4q6)

441 439 CaliGirl, that is horrible.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 02, 2017 12:17 AM (qazQh)

I would take off the collar before I got out of the car because I'm vain. I'm sure the old screaming people thought I was using my grandparents placard.
Looks are deceiving.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 02, 2017 12:22 AM (Ri/rl)

442 Maybe the fire was set by someone who had a family
member raped. I'm not in favor of people engaging in vigilante justice.
But it is the job of the government to protect its citizens, and Sweden
has been doing a piss poor job of protecting women and girls from
rapists Sooner or later people will get fed up. It's called "a lesson in
life".

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 01, 2017 10:06 PM (+lVUW)

I am in favor of vigilante justice when the government refuses to live up to its end of the social compact.

Posted by: redbanzai at May 02, 2017 12:25 AM (FTXAT)

443 Just because he isn't in a wheelchair doesn't mean he can't benefit from the help.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 02, 2017 12:00 AM (NXsWM)


This is not a personal issue. It's a matter of policy and the handicapped spots and the rest of the handicapped bullshit they've shoved through are all bad policy and total bullshit.

I'm sorry for your situation but that is not license to force through stupid laws and make ridiculous regulations. Society is not made to bend to the needs of every 3% group in it. Such societies end up not being long for this world.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 02, 2017 12:27 AM (zc3Db)

444 Brattleboro is more afraid of that idiot Trump Atomic Weapons then anybody else in this world !!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at May 02, 2017 12:28 AM (WmgTn)

445 Maybe the fire was set by someone who had a family member raped.

---

OK, we've just eliminated 6% of the population as suspects, 4% of the sheep.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 02, 2017 12:28 AM (vChNs)

446 you know the hummers, h2, have continued to look good despite being out of production for a while. seems like they are holding value too.

Posted by: yankefifth at May 02, 2017 12:30 AM (cPsPa)

447 So if all the handicapped spaces are full, would a car with a handicapped sticker be ticketed for parking in a non-handicapped space?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 02, 2017 12:04 AM (vChNs)


Which brings up another point - the ticket for parking in a handicapped spot (without the sticker, in PA) is a MONSTER ticket - a MONSTER - trying to give the impression that you did something as bad as driving over 4 infants, or the like.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 02, 2017 12:31 AM (zc3Db)

448 I am in favor of vigilante justice when the government refuses to live up to its end of the social compact.


Posted by: redbanzai at May 02, 2017 12:25 AM (FTXAT)


I think it might be worse than that. Seems that like most people the Euros of all stripes TRUSTED their governments to not fuck them over with civilization-destroying policies.
Now that many are waking up to what actually happened, who knows how the reaction to that betrayal will play out. Maybe with fire.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 02, 2017 12:31 AM (z79tQ)

449 This is not a personal issue. It's a matter of policy and the handicapped spots and the rest of the handicapped bullshit they've shoved through are all bad policy and total bullshit

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our local Wawa has about a dozen parking spaces out front and 4 are handicapped spots. Now Wawa is a convenience store so you should not be in there > 10 minutes, but it is also busy.

So the 8 spots are always full and the other 4 are always empty. i'm pretty sure a third of the population isn't handicapped. Can we cut that back to 2 spots?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 02, 2017 12:32 AM (vChNs)

450 448 you know the hummers, h2, have continued to look good despite being out of production for a while. seems like they are holding value too.
Posted by: yankefifth at May 02, 2017 12:30 AM (cPsPa)

At least they look like something. We seemed to have entered the age of bland, unibody.

Anyone else remember being able to determine make and model of car at night from headlights or taillights?

Posted by: Aetius451AD's work phone at May 02, 2017 12:33 AM (BNQFT)

451 []iI am in favor of vigilante justice when the government refuses to live up to its end of the social compact.
Posted by: redbanzai

I am not.

Mostly because the individual is almost always not enough to determine that.

Assuming that person were, that person is still missing the mark.

It's not the mosque nor the attendants that may or may not be contributing to any supposed problems.

Even then, there is a large breach that has to be observed before any tearing is even contemplated.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 02, 2017 12:33 AM (GgzGa)

452 Democrats are clappers on the bell curve economically and by education. Even where, or especially where, the education and economic levels don't correlate.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 02, 2017 12:34 AM (VdICR)

453 Netflix has a new show 'Dear White People'

Do I dare watch it?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 02, 2017 12:34 AM (vChNs)

454 I'm sorry for your situation but that is not license to force through stupid laws and make ridiculous regulations. Society is not made to bend to the needs of every 3% group in it. Such societies end up not being long for this world.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 02, 2017 12:27 AM (zc3Db)

I see your point. I would be fine if the individual businesses had handicap parking and others chose not to. Leave it up to the business.
My mother wouldn't be able to do her own shopping if there were no handicap parking spaces. But I ultimately think it should be up to the private business.

My pet peeve are the special mommy parking spots. But those aren't government mandated. Yet.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 02, 2017 12:34 AM (Ri/rl)

455 Do I dare watch it?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90


How expensive is your flat screen?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 02, 2017 12:35 AM (GgzGa)

456 Hey all, just stopping by. Long day here, may be back later after a nap.

Be well.

Posted by: Farmer at May 02, 2017 12:36 AM (o/90i)

457 I emailed my GOP Senator and told him that there is
no point in voting anymore. We gave the GOP everything they said they
needed and we still got Schumer's budget. I told him it was time to "go
dark" and " see you all on the other side".

Probably already sent to trash.



Posted by: free tibet, with purchase of equal or greater value tibet
****

I am betting they may take that another way...

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 02, 2017 12:38 AM (hVdx9)

458 I'm sorry for your situation but that is not license to force through stupid laws and make ridiculous regulations. Society is not made to bend to the needs of every 3% group in it. Such societies end up not being long for this world.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 02, 2017 12:27 AM (zc3Db)

You should most likely pray that you are never handicapped in a way that would lead you to need that extra help. I'm here to tell you, life ends when you become homebound. To say that it is ridiculous that able-bodied people walk all of 40 more feet to get to the Fred Meyer is assinine, and you well know it. Your argument might hold water if the people who use the stickers and hang tags were a bunch of loafers and cheaters who are just lazy, but I can tell you that isn't so.

My dad, who is 88 and has had a stroke, won't take one of those hang tags, nor will he use a chair or a scooter. It is a matter of pride that he walk his way in and out, and around. It takes a month of Sundays, but that is a very small price to pay for his dignity.

My husband, OTOH, usually parks as far as reasonable, but when his back is particularly bad, he uses the handicap spot.

You apparently think you will life forever as a spry, able-bodied person, judging others right and left, and being as miserable and nasty as possible in the process. You may wish to consult a surgeon to remove that 2x4 in your eye and the broomstick from your nether regions. Until then, enjoy your misery and FOAD.

/rant off

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 02, 2017 12:39 AM (NXsWM)

459 Well that is a bummer. The video I recommended to Mike Hammer (Wheels rolling West) has been banned by youtube due to copyright sumpin or other.

I did mention it had good music.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 02, 2017 12:39 AM (z79tQ)

460 OT,
I would again like to ask for prayers for my nephew and niece. My Ex-sister in law had a massive stroke over a week ago and the kids decided to remove support. She passed peacefully last Monday.
The service is tomorrow. I hope once the service is over the kids can start healing.
My SIL was in her late 50's. It's been a tough go.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 02, 2017 12:42 AM (Ri/rl)

461 462: you got them from here caligirl. may god grant them peace.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 02, 2017 12:44 AM (KP5rU)

462 Posted by: tcn in AK at May 02, 2017 12:39 AM (NXsWM)

the problem is that for everyone who does need it (like my 88 year old Mom)...

There are those who game the system... like the overweight people who SHOULD be walking...

Which is what happens whenever the government gets involved... it goes from a good idea... to ridiculous... in a very short time.

Posted by: Don Q. at May 02, 2017 12:44 AM (NgKpN)

463 Netflix has a new show 'Dear White People'



Do I dare watch it?


Yeah, Netflix "recommended" it to me as well.

I watched Red Dawn and The Robe in the past month. Whatever algorithm Netflix is using to push self-flagellating anti-reason dumbfuckery on its subscribers, it's making me reconsider torrents and VPNs.

Posted by: well-played, fuckholes. Do keep it up at May 02, 2017 12:46 AM (wpC7C)

464
Anyone else remember being able to determine make and model of car at night from headlights or taillights?
Posted by: Aetius451AD's work phone




especially cop cars.



hate the new wavy led lights

Posted by: yankefifth at May 02, 2017 12:47 AM (cPsPa)

465 CaliGirl at May 02, 2017 12:42 AM (Ri/rl)

May God bless your family with Strength and Resolve in these agonizing times ...

Please accept my condolences.

Posted by: Adriane the Critic ... at May 02, 2017 12:47 AM (AoK0a)

466 Posted by: tcn in AK at May 02, 2017 12:39 AM (NXsWM)

I'm sorry.

I was thinking that he was more talking about the ADA laws. I've seen those abused something awful. There is a guy in my area that is in a wheelchair and goes to small businesses and sues them if their sink is 2 inches too high.
He has put 1 business out of business that I know of. It was a small restaurant that was in business for 50 years.

Sometimes the government entities are arbitrary and out of control. I imagine all businesses will accommodate their customers.
I could be wrong.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 02, 2017 12:48 AM (Ri/rl)

467 Your argument might hold water if the people who use the stickers and hang tags were a bunch of loafers and cheaters who are just lazy, but I can tell you that isn't so.

Obviously, you haven't really read what I wrote. It isn't laziness. In many places it's NECESSITY. You can't find a spot in a busy city because all the open spots on the street are handicapped spots. People who get the tags to use those spots aren't lazy - quite the contrary; many of them want to do stuff and can't afford to be driving around for two hours looking for a spot.

And I don't know where you get your statistics from but most of the people holding handicapped tags (certainly around here) do not need them. It's not even a close call.

You may wish to consult a surgeon to remove that 2x4 in your eye and the broomstick from your nether regions. Until then, enjoy your misery and FOAD.

/rant off

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 02, 2017 12:39 AM (NXsWM)


Yes ... I am just an evil, nasty person. I know. I'm a h8ter.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 02, 2017 12:49 AM (zc3Db)

468 You apparently think you will life forever as a spry, able-bodied person, judging others right and left, and being as miserable and nasty as possible in the process. You may wish to consult a surgeon to remove that 2x4 in your eye and the broomstick from your nether regions. Until then, enjoy your misery and FOAD.

/rant off
Posted by: tcn in AK




well, you seem to be finishing off with an argument for handicapped parking for old people, which is going to be a problem.

Posted by: yankefifth at May 02, 2017 12:49 AM (cPsPa)

469 Posted by: CaliGirl at May 02, 2017 12:42 AM (Ri/rl)

RIP. And prayers of healing for her children. \

Posted by: gracepc at May 02, 2017 12:49 AM (OU4q6)

470 City of Prague Philharmonic, Conan the Destroyer

https://youtu.be/gl8w-cMqNfI

I have only seen Destroyer once because it isn't very good. But the soundtrack is equal to the first.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 02, 2017 12:49 AM (VdICR)

471 Posted by: tcn in AK at May 02, 2017 12:39 AM (NXsWM)

My dad was the same way. He didn't want to use the walker or wheel chair until he had no choice.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 02, 2017 12:50 AM (Ri/rl)

472 real men do not use luggage with wheels.

Posted by: yankefifth at May 02, 2017 12:51 AM (cPsPa)

473 457 Do I dare watch it?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90

How expensive is your flat screen?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 02, 2017 12:35 AM (GgzGa)

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well it does have this pink line, 1 pixel wide down the left side. You don't notice it until you do, then you can't not see it. We had it a year before I pointed it out to wife.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 02, 2017 12:51 AM (vChNs)

474 465 Netflix has a new show 'Dear White People'



Do I dare watch it?

-
Dare?! You've got a duty to watch it! Help to make up for that 400 years of slavery!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 02, 2017 12:53 AM (Nwg0u)

475 And I don't know where you get your statistics from but most of the people holding handicapped tags (certainly around here) do not need them. It's not even a close call.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 02, 2017 12:49 AM (zc3Db)


Are you a doctor with x-ray vision? Most days, I can walk three blocks to Kroger and grab some groceries and fresh air. Some days, rolling over in bed is murder. People probably abuse handicap tags, no doubt, but it's not my place to assess their disability.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 02, 2017 12:53 AM (8nWyX)

476 I was thinking that he was more talking about the ADA laws.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 02, 2017 12:48 AM (Ri/rl)


That's exactly what I was talking about - the ADA and the additional local laws forcing accommodations on both private property and public spaces.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 02, 2017 12:54 AM (zc3Db)

477 Yeah, NFL, can't smoke a doobie, that's bad, just keep feeding them Oxy and Vicodens.

Fuck I hate Roger Dodger.

Posted by: Big Al at May 02, 2017 12:55 AM (+JS0o)

478 Here's a suggestion for a way around the dilemma of handicapped parking spaces at major stores. Allow stores to eliminate handicapped parking spaces if they agree to provide free valet parking during all open hours.

Valet driver jobs to be given preferentially to qualified veterans.

Handicapped persons using the valet service get it 100% free; able-bodied persons would be encouraged to tip the driver a buck or so.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 02, 2017 12:56 AM (0deF2)

479 More fun today. Got a text from my sister (in WV) saying she hasn't heard from Mom/Dad recently. Since I live close I get to go over and check up on them. (both nearing 80)

drive over, open door...smell...nothing. good.

check garage, 1 car missing. better.

check mailbox, empty. best.

So they're just out for dinner or visiting.

this time.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 02, 2017 12:57 AM (vChNs)

480 Are you a doctor with x-ray vision?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 02, 2017 12:53 AM (8nWyX)


No. I'm talking about the many people I'm familiar with who have them. In the city, you almost have to have a handicapped tag and people are always looking to get them (or borrow them from someone who has it).

And you can tell a decent amount by watching the people who use the spots.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 02, 2017 12:59 AM (zc3Db)

481 hate the new wavy led lights

Posted by: yankefifth at May 02, 2017 12:47 AM (cPsPa)

I can't stand the lights now on cop cars and firetrucks/ambulances. They're TOO bright.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 02, 2017 12:59 AM (Jcg9Q)

482 There's nothing funny about being in a wheel chair.

- Cyril Figgis

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 02, 2017 12:59 AM (Nwg0u)

483 Valet driver jobs to be given preferentially to qualified veterans.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 02, 2017 12:56 AM (0deF2)


That's another neat Canadianism, Commissionaires. The US would do well to have something like that to replace e.g. the TSA schmucks.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 02, 2017 01:00 AM (8nWyX)

484 Prayers for you and yours Cali Girl

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 02, 2017 01:01 AM (hVdx9)

485 Dare?! You've got a duty to watch it! Help to make up for that 400 years of slavery!

---

can I earn some white privilege credits?

(hey, I've typed it so much, I've learned to spel privilege.)

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 02, 2017 01:02 AM (vChNs)

486 We look at it from a medical standpoint. So if people feel that it has a medical benefit, the medical advisers have to tell you that. We have joint advisers, we also have independent advisers, both the NFLPA and the NFL, and we'll sit down and talk about that.

Joint advisers? Is he trying to be funny?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 02, 2017 01:03 AM (vRcUp)

487 real men do not use luggage with wheels.
Posted by: yankefifth
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Unless they are married to Mrs. Hammer.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 02, 2017 01:03 AM (ZO497)

488 474 real men do not use luggage with wheels.
Posted by: yankefifth at May 02, 2017 12:51 AM (cPsPa)


Nice

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 02, 2017 01:03 AM (voOPb)

489 But wouldn't you have to reserve a certain percentage of those valet parking jobs for handicapped applicants? ADA, and all. And then, we're off to the races once more.

An infinite regression of victimhood. Like a hall of mirrors.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 02, 2017 01:03 AM (H5rtT)

490 Thank you everyone for the prayers, I appreciate it.

Goodnight everyone.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 02, 2017 01:04 AM (Ri/rl)

491 Goodnight Cali, you're welcome.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 02, 2017 01:05 AM (qazQh)

492 >>>Joint advisers? Is he trying to be funny?

Roger Goodell he couldn't be funny even if he was trying
But he's doing a good job of driving the NFL into the ground

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 02, 2017 01:05 AM (voOPb)

493 I gotta call it a night too. Thanks everyone for the great chat.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 02, 2017 01:05 AM (qazQh)

494 And you can tell a decent amount by watching the people who use the spots.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 02, 2017 12:59 AM (zc3Db)


You can't always, though. I may have scammed a few handicapped spots on days when I was feeling fine but lazy, but I can also walk without a cane or a limp but be grinding my teeth to powder until I get to the wheelchair.

Anyway, in the interest of lessening tensions, here are some cats, one of which is a chubby-cheeked pudgy princess:
http://stoatnet.org/IMG_0997.JPG

Posted by: hogmartin at May 02, 2017 01:09 AM (8nWyX)

495 Thank you God, for the strength to survive, and be of service to others.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 02, 2017 01:13 AM (tHwdc)

496 nite for me too.

time to spoon with the beagle

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 02, 2017 01:13 AM (vChNs)

497 Off to bed as well.

'Night all.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 02, 2017 01:17 AM (Jcg9Q)

498 >>>time to spoon with the beagle


Save it for the pet thread

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 02, 2017 01:18 AM (voOPb)

499 Power just came back on after a couple of hours of darkness. Surprising that it's already warm enough at night that we really missed the ceiling fans.

Doesn't sound like we're real tough, does it?

Posted by: KT at May 02, 2017 01:19 AM (qahv/)

500 Posted by: KT at May 02, 2017 01:19 AM (qahv/)

Ha-Ha

We are still running the damn furnace

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 02, 2017 01:20 AM (voOPb)

501 Kendell Jenner, a weary nation turns its eyes to you...

https://twitter.com/PortlandPolice/status/
859180794811514881

Posted by: I'm not crazy at May 02, 2017 01:23 AM (vBeA5)

502 "Protesters marching with what look like large, inflatable black widows. "

https://twitter.com/KGWNews/status
/859181489052729344

Posted by: I'm not crazy at May 02, 2017 01:25 AM (vBeA5)

503 AntiFa flying a flag that literally says "LEFT WING CUCK SQUAD"...

https://twitter.com/killendave/status/
859172152133640192

Posted by: I'm not crazy at May 02, 2017 01:25 AM (vBeA5)

504 We are still running the damn furnace
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 02, 2017 01:20 AM (voOPb)


Same. Daytime sometimes gets to the mid-60s, but then it's down to the 40s at night. So, open the windows during the day to get some air, then close them and turn the heat on again.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 02, 2017 01:26 AM (8nWyX)

505 Surprising that it's already warm enough at night that we really missed the ceiling fans.

Posted by: KT at May 02, 2017 01:19 AM (qahv/)

It gets so damp & stuffy, doesn't it? We were in the 90's this past weekend, but will be back in the 70's this week so I can get some planting done & maybe the plants won't hate me.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at May 02, 2017 01:27 AM (GzDYP)

506 I do not at present, own a handicapped tag. Temporary, permanent or otherwise.

Most days, I wouldn't need one.

The average MD, looking at my chart, would order one for me, STAT.

I have been bent, folded, stapled and mutilated in this life. So very many incidents and injuries, that I've frankly, lost track.

These go all the way back to early teens bicycle mayhem in the very early '70s.

My scars have scars.

And I have surgically implanted hardware to hold it all together. Had the temporary placards in those days, while I "healed".

I would LOVE to have a handicapped tag, for those oh-so-very-bad-days. They happen a couple-three days a year. Those days, it's tough to hobble to the bathroom to take a shit, much less go to the store.

Rest of the time, I'm pretty much nimble as a deer. Go figure.

My Dad passed in 2010, from heart disease, at age 78. To appearances, he was a fit old geezer.

But he'd run out of breath much more sooner, than later. Handicapped spaces were a blessing to him.

Do gooders, nearly always, need to be pilloried, and pelted with all manner of rotten fruits.

Second offenses, go the the flogging post.

Third offenses to the gallows.

I am somewhat sense of humorically challenged, in these areas, as you might imagine.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 02, 2017 01:30 AM (v5iqM)

507 i am a fugitive from the law of averages, and i have a permanent tag here in #Failifornia.

between my Achilles tendons that forever trying to self rupture, to the unstable ankle joints, the FUBAR knees and hips, not to mention the spinal issues, it is often a blessing.

i don't always use it, nor do i always need it, but when i do, i *really* need it.

last time someone questioned me why i had one i told them "the same reason the VA sends me a check each month for my service related disability..."

they STFU.

not that there aren't a lot of fakers here in #Failifornia.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 02, 2017 01:38 AM (h2xKB)

508 It's May 12 1984 and it appears that the world is already full of Terminators.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at May 02, 2017 01:42 AM (d76uN)

509 @ redC

Those set of crutches stashed in the back of the house? They're not ornamental.

Google up an un-treated Lisfranc Fracture to the foot.

Yep, they're gonna have to re-break the bone, and then drill and install "pins".

Oh, I'm so looking forward to that, I really, really am. /sarc

Fking O'care. Before that, I had insurance for such things, but not now.

If you've watched any episodes of The Badlands, well, you have a visual of what I'd pray befall to each and every one of the SOBs who'd foisted O'care onto We the People. I'm includeing staffers and staff flunkies in this, too.

Stanley Steemer would retire on that one cleaning bill, alone.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 02, 2017 01:48 AM (v5iqM)

510 Once the fob has been recognised as being close by, the driver can start the car's engine with just the press of a button.

Clever how they forward the signal, but what happens when they reach their destination? The key fob will no longer be in range, so they only get one joy ride out of it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 02, 2017 01:48 AM (vRcUp)

511 This is, so far. a very different Terminator movie.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at May 02, 2017 01:49 AM (d76uN)

512 Clever how they forward the signal, but what happens when they reach
their destination? The key fob will no longer be in range, so they only
get one joy ride out of it.
---
since that will likely be a chop shop, hey DGAF.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 02, 2017 01:52 AM (h2xKB)

513 Fking O'care. Before that, I had insurance for such things, but not now.

---
Dude: i had a broken wrist surgically repaired at Drew/King Medical Center in Watts a few years back, because i had jack shit for insurance.

everything bad anyone ever said about that place was all true.

plus a majority of the patients and staff were racist shitbirds.

they may not have liked each other, but they all hated on me.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 02, 2017 01:55 AM (h2xKB)

514 My personal fave? Getting aced out of a handicap parking space by some fool who's driving grandpa's car and pulls right in front of my husband, who can't walk very far and really needs it. I never use it when he isn't in the car. I guess I'm the chump, huh?

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2017 11:31 PM (NXsWM)


I hate handicapped parking space abuse, too. My Mom's car had handicapped plates. When I would visit my Mom and drive her car, I never parked in a handicapped space just because I could. Now if Mom was with me, that was a different story.

A friend of mine told me her pet peeve. She likes to park her truck away from other cars, with plenty of space around her truck to prevent someone opening their car door and dinging her truck. Invariably, she always finds someone has parked right next to her truck, even though there's a wide open parking lot available all around them. She can't for the life of her figure that one out. It's like the other driver thinks their car is going to be lonely or something.

Posted by: RickZ at May 02, 2017 01:57 AM (xej1g)

515 nite for me too.

time to spoon with the beagle
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 02




who is on the outside?

Posted by: yankefifth at May 02, 2017 02:00 AM (cPsPa)

516 Well, bed time for me. I am beat tonight. Be well, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 02, 2017 02:01 AM (0deF2)

517 She's got a ticket to ride but she don't care.

Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) at May 01, 2017 11:40 PM (nvMvs)


I read somewhere that the 'ticket to ride' was a hooker's permit issued by the German government showing she was 'clean'.

/The more you know. CBS Cares.

Posted by: RickZ at May 02, 2017 02:04 AM (xej1g)

518 Handicapped Parking. I can use it. I don't. I need the exercise. I park as far away from entrances as I can.

From what I have seen, most that park in those spots should be joining me.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at May 02, 2017 02:05 AM (d76uN)

519 heh. park as far from everyone and everything as possible because I can always use the exercise but mostly because I do not want some dumbass dinging my doors.


then I grab my wheel-less luggage and go wherever I am going.

Posted by: yankefifth at May 02, 2017 02:07 AM (cPsPa)

520 I'm pulling into the handicapped zone here in snoozeville.


Hasta la nite nite, Horde!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 02, 2017 02:10 AM (v5iqM)

521 oops

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 02, 2017 02:13 AM (cPsPa)

522 Did you ever own an ugly car? No, not one full of rust and Bondo, but A truly ugly car. The 10 ugliest cars of all time.

No list of ugly cars would be complete without the 1962 Plymouth Savoy and the Dodge Dart. In the famous words of Sgt. Hartman, "so ugly they could be a modern art masterpiece". Shame of it was that they had great engines and transmissions, but they damn near killed Chrysler. I could imagine women crying when they saw the new Dodge that hubby just brought home from the dealer.

As for 10 best looking I could take the lazy way out and say "the 1961 XKE, 62 XKE, 63 XKE..." but I'll throw in some other of my favorites like the 63 Split Window Corvette Stingray, the 1963 Ferrari GTO, the 1968 Mustang GT, the 1932 Duesenberg SJ, the 1949 Buick Roadmaster, the 2005 Aston-Martin DB9, the 2016 Mercedes SL, the 1962 Olds Jetfire, the 1966 Buick Riviera, the 1957 Ford T-Bird, the 1949 Mercury, almost any Ferrari California, 1970 Dodge Challenger, 1965 Corvair.



Posted by: kbdabear at May 02, 2017 02:19 AM (AOrEZ)

523 I've got a Garmin, but it's never been out of the box. I keep a road atlas of the US in the trunk; it's come in handy a few times though it is 20 years out of date.

I don't have a smart phone either, but when I'm planning a road trip I do download the relevant maps to my laptop so I don't need an online connection to view them if necessary.

Now, about my lawn and your proximity to it....

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 02, 2017 02:19 AM (wTwJ2)

524 Anyhoo, what's jaw dropping is the institutional
memory is being lost, or has been lost on just what the role of police
really is. People like to talk about "protecting the community", but one
of the very real roles of the police is to protect criminals from the
enraged citizenry. Once a certain critical mass of otherwise everyday
normal folks get a case of the ass and sez "Fuck It", that genie ain't
goin' back in the bottle. Nobody will be able to stop it. Not saying I
like it.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 01, 2017 10:19 PM (Mw7bJ)

Maybe this is for the Book Thread, but I started reading "The Frontiersmen" by Allan W. Eckert. It is a fascinating historical 'narrative' of the settling of the Ohio river valley, mostly Kentucky so far (which was a county of Virginia). ANYWAY, there are vivid accounts of the relations between the Indians, primarily the Shawnee and their different septs, and the white man.Very interesting how the settlers very quickly got a 'case of the ass' and took matters into their own hands, mostly because the 'police' (militia) wasn't around or insufficient. Also, there were instances where the militia had it all wrong and really fucked it up. (The 'Moravian Massacre' is once example.)Survival, and consequences.



Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 02, 2017 02:23 AM (8iiMU)

525 And, Top 550!


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 02, 2017 02:23 AM (8iiMU)

526 You could throw a dart at a board of car photos from 1973 to 1990 and be assured of coming up with 10 very ugly cars in 15 throws or less, at least on the American market.

There were exceptions like the 240-280 Z's and the 80s Pontiac Trans-Ams

But during those years not only did American cars have hideous designs, they came in the most nightmarish colors.

Posted by: kbdabear at May 02, 2017 02:25 AM (AOrEZ)

527 Wow. AMC had *three* cars in the Top Ten. No wonder we don't hear much about AMC any more.

Their designer must have been a mole planted by a competitor.

I second the listing of the Nissan Cube. I find square cars irksome. I guess hipsters consider them "ironic" or something.

Posted by: rickl at May 02, 2017 02:27 AM (sdi6R)

528 I second the listing of the Nissan Cube. I find square cars irksome. I guess hipsters consider them "ironic" or something.

Posted by: rickl at May 02, 2017 02:27 AM (sdi6R)

That Nissan Cube should die.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 02, 2017 02:32 AM (8iiMU)

529 i too am BTS by today, and the previous few...

hasta, y'all

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 02, 2017 02:34 AM (h2xKB)

530 526
But during those years not only did American cars have hideous designs, they came in the most nightmarish colors.
Posted by: kbdabear at May 02, 2017 02:25 AM (AOrEZ)


Speaking of which, I recently had to buy a new toilet seat. My toilet is gray. I'm not sure how old it is, but it's pretty old.

I couldn't find a gray toilet seat. I had to settle for white. It's not like it's some jacked-up color like Avocado or Pumpkin Spice. It's fucking gray, dude.

Posted by: rickl at May 02, 2017 02:36 AM (sdi6R)

531 Over in New Orleans, the city is busy tearing down 4 Confederate related monuments, with snipers stationed on rooftops to prevent attacks on workers doing the removing, or so they claim.

Here in MS, the voters chose to keep a small confederate flag imbedded in the state flag. This doesn't sit well with the new mayor of Biloxi, a dude that goes by name Fofo. So he ordered the city to remove all state flags from city property. I have a hunch he is going to regret his decision, as the gubner is NOT amused.

And neither are some of the residents. A small protest was held in front of city hall yesterday, and it's worthwhile to view the video of it as there are a number of blacks and whites together doing the protesting:

http://wxxv25.com/2017/05/01/
pro-state-flag-rally-biloxi/

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 02, 2017 02:37 AM (wTwJ2)

532 "Dude: i had a broken wrist surgically repaired at Drew/King Medical
Center in Watts a few years back, because i had jack shit for insurance."

Ah yes. Good old "Killer King".

LAPD officers used to tell one another that even if they had soaked up a couple of bullets and were bleeding out, to ***not*** allow the ambulance crew to go to King.

UCLA Medical was eventually forced to take it over and straighten it out, or as straightened out as a hospital in metro SoCal can be these days.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 02, 2017 02:47 AM (qJjMA)

533 I couldn't find a gray toilet seat. I had to settle
for white. It's not like it's some jacked-up color like Avocado or
Pumpkin Spice. It's fucking gray, dude.

Posted by: rickl


There are several shades of gray toilet seats on Amazon, dude.

Ice grey, country grey, thunder grey...

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 02, 2017 02:47 AM (wTwJ2)

534 It never occurred to me to buy a toilet seat from Amazon. I checked out Home Depot, Lowe's, and Bed, Bath, and Beyond. None of them had gray.

Thanks for the tip. If Amazon is still in business 20 years from now when I need to buy the next one (or if I'm still alive 20 years from now), I'll check them out.

Posted by: rickl at May 02, 2017 02:53 AM (sdi6R)

535 No terms and conditions on tonight's ONT. I can do whatever. Except for the barrel thing. No escaping that.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 02, 2017 03:05 AM (h2uCY)

536 Civil war in South Africa? It sounds likely:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/lty5xof

(Daily Mail)

At least they don't have nukes.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 02, 2017 03:05 AM (wTwJ2)

537 The contrasting colors of a white seat & gray commode will add huge value to your home.

Posted by: HGTV at May 02, 2017 03:10 AM (GzDYP)

538 So the SA government gave the loaner atomics back to the Israelis?

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 02, 2017 03:24 AM (e1mEI)

539 Turbo Kid (just like an ugly car) is the perfect suffusion of 80s kitch. Here's the soundtrack.

https://youtu.be/KdbNc8QzXpo

It's on netflix, and you should try it if you liked Kung Fury. The younger actors are charming.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 02, 2017 03:29 AM (VdICR)

540 ivanka trump has a very long neck...

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 02, 2017 03:32 AM (WTSFk)

541 ... 3:40 a.m.

... the internet

... secrets.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 02, 2017 03:32 AM (WTSFk)

542 ... shhhhhhhhhhh.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 02, 2017 03:33 AM (WTSFk)

543 (Anti revile)
I don't want to get up
Don't want to get up
Don't want to get up
This morning

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2017 03:39 AM (Ot7+c)

544 South Aftica has been a hell hole for a long time.

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2017 03:41 AM (Ot7+c)

545 3:40 a.m.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 02, 2017 03:32 AM (WTSFk)


The witching hour. All you have to do is say 'martini, martini, martini' and Hillary! magically appears.

Posted by: RickZ at May 02, 2017 03:41 AM (xej1g)

546 (Anti revile)
I don't want to get up
Don't want to get up
Don't want to get up
This morning

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2017 03:39 AM (Ot7+c)


I'm not so sure that's 'anti revile'. 'Revile' works just fine.

Posted by: RickZ at May 02, 2017 03:43 AM (xej1g)

547 It's only 2:40 in Dallas. When people sleep on their keyboards and hit refresh, it helps with Ace's ad revenue. It's science.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 02, 2017 03:44 AM (VdICR)

548 Ok then,
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2017 04:08 AM (Ot7+c)

549 >>>Civil war in South Africa?

Zuma talks like that shithead Dyson. Sounds like SA should have split into two countries.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 02, 2017 04:26 AM (vRcUp)

550 It is interesting that rather than take advantage of this once in a lifetime opportunity the GOP has decided to raise a large middle finger and say a screw you.

No budgets, no Obamacare repeal, no tax reform, no wall, nothing of substance and a congress and senate largely run by Pelosi and schumer.

Incredible.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 02, 2017 05:01 AM (3TnQR)

551 So I take a night off, and you maggots can't drag the ONT past 600?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess T at May 02, 2017 05:20 AM (tHwdc)

552 It is interesting that rather than take advantage
of this once in a lifetime opportunity the GOP has decided to raise a
large middle finger and say a screw you.



No budgets, no Obamacare repeal, no tax reform, no wall, nothing of
substance and a congress and senate largely run by Pelosi and schumer.



Incredible.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 02, 2017 05:01 AM (3TnQR)

This will not stand.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess (T) at May 02, 2017 05:21 AM (tHwdc)

553 This will not stand.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess (T) at May 02, 2017 05:21 AM (tHwdc)


It will stand as long as the RINO assholes keep getting reelected.

The Republicans are as clueless as the Democrats when it comes to understanding what America wants from them. Helpful hint for these morons: It's not more government or 'fixing' a bad 'healthcare' law passed on lies. I wonder if Republicans are going to hold town halls this summer? Or will they run and hide from their constituents like the Democrats do?

Posted by: RickZ at May 02, 2017 05:52 AM (xej1g)

554 549 >>>Civil war in South Africa?

Zuma talks like that shithead Dyson. Sounds like SA should have split into two countries.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear

South Africa is the slow sinking Titanic, which knows it has struck the iceberg, but has been rearranging the deckchairs for the past 10 years or more.

Posted by: History! at May 02, 2017 05:58 AM (cJDvr)

555 I wonder if Republicans are going to hold town
halls this summer? Or will they run and hide from their constituents
like the Democrats do?

Posted by: RickZ at May 02, 2017 05:52 AM (xej1g)

Magic 8 Ball says: ASK AGAIN LATER

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess (T) at May 02, 2017 05:58 AM (tHwdc)

556 What's on the political menu today?.....Why its shit sandwiches!....just like yesterday's menu BUT these shit sandwiches have a cheese flavor-thanks to Dem Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan.

Trump could not even get- the money removed from the budget for visas for the six countries he went to court to suspend, temporarily , entry to the USA.

Wisconsin....aka Ryan... Rules Baby!

Posted by: Malignantly aggrieved and economically useless at May 02, 2017 06:12 AM (oBuXO)

557 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 02, 2017 06:14 AM (J+eG2)

558 Fashionably late again... the discussion re handicapped parking spaces and ADA accommodations poses a bit of a dilemma for me. If I were a true conservative believer in small government and the power of the free market and all that, I'd have to be against any laws mandating handicapped accommodation; but I know darn well that people like my autistic daughter and my soon to be double amputee brother would be totally screwed without them. Of course such laws can and will be abused, but how many of us really want to go back to the days when accommodations were rare or nonexistent, and any significant disability pretty much doomed you to being home bound or institutionalized?

Posted by: Secret Square at May 02, 2017 06:14 AM (9WuX0)

559 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 02, 2017 06:21 AM (u82oZ)

560 And a special shoutout to her Grace Miley and to VIA, who have to live in the shadow of Mordor.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 02, 2017 06:24 AM (u82oZ)

561

OW!!!

HEY!!!

It's fur oil time again!!!

HEY!!!

*spins around, grabs mic stand*

YEAH!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at May 02, 2017 06:29 AM (HSmrB)

562 Mornin'.

Living in an NHL city, I've been to plenty of hockey games over my lifetime and with both anthems sung before every game, pretty much any serious hockey fans know the lyrics to both by heart.

I can belt out "O Canada" as easily as the "Star Spangled Banner", all thanks to hockey. (and "O Canada" is a helluva lot easier to sing!) Being in the border city of Buffalo there are always lots of Canadian fans at the arena, and it's sort of a point of pride that everybody sings both anthems, honoring (and honouring) our neighbors. It's a hockey thang.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 02, 2017 06:31 AM (ul9CR)

563 I'm happier than I was last night, Na Cly Dog and looking forward to my one woman show on Sunday-two performances-two different places. My friend-who works with the youth-says the performance at her church has been widely advertised.It's sort of select presentation but hopefully some folks will show up. They do get to have fruit and sandwiches beforehand so maybe they'll stay for the show. ;^)

God bless you and have a great day.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 02, 2017 06:31 AM (fDdVG)

564 Heh. Love that last image. I have a fancy weatherproof pocket on my wrist that cost a stupid amount of money.

There's something to be said for doing it old school.

Posted by: Semper Why at May 02, 2017 06:33 AM (QfY0/)

565 I see from the sidebar that Portland is having some issues with the anarchist movement, and the always popular May Day events.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 02, 2017 06:35 AM (J+eG2)

566 Of course such laws can and will be abused, but how many of us really want to go back to the days when accommodations were rare or nonexistent, and any significant disability pretty much doomed you to being home bound or institutionalized?

Posted by: Secret Square at May 02, 2017 06:14 AM (9WuX0)


I understand your dilemma but how far should we legally go to accommodate? Just look at the tranny disability issue. They demand the use of whichever bathroom pleases them at the moment. Should someone be able to sue because the bathroom sink is two inches too high? How about wheelchair accessible ramps at businesses? That's a mandated cost as if businesses have money trees. It's no different than the minimum wage BS, with lefties believing businesses can just go to their money tree to pay more in salaries. What about taking into account the financial risk of opening a business in the first place? That's seems forgotten in all this mess. The government does not care if they regulate a business out of business because the bureaucrats will still have their jobs. It's high time to put bureaucrats' jobs at risk as well. I think businesses will accommodate to the degree that it is profitable for them. If they don't accommodate and they go out of business due to lack of customers, then it's on them. Let the free market decide.

Posted by: RickZ at May 02, 2017 06:36 AM (xej1g)

567 G'morning, Salty.


Remember, stately VIA Manor isn't in the city proper.

But I can fling a trash can lid from the edge of our community into the city.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 02, 2017 06:38 AM (J+eG2)

568 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 02, 2017 06:31 AM (fDdVG)

FS, how did things work out with your son and his anger / depression?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 02, 2017 06:39 AM (X6fMO)

569 {{{FenelonSpoke}}}

May your shows heal wounds in the unknowing and sprinkle goodness in the hearts of all.

It is so refreshing to hear you are on an upswing. My prayer wheels continue to roll at all ahead standard for you, FenelonSpouse, and FenelonSon.

Hopefully the track team is supporting him, and if he is in a 4 x 4 medley, everyone cheers him on once he gets the baton.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 02, 2017 06:40 AM (u82oZ)

570 I can belt out "O Canada" as easily as the "Star Spangled Banner", all thanks to hockey. (and "O Canada" is a helluva lot easier to sing!) Being in the border city of Buffalo there are always lots of Canadian fans at the arena, and it's sort of a point of pride that everybody sings both anthems, honoring (and honouring) our neighbors. It's a hockey thang.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 02, 2017 06:31 AM (ul9CR)


I used to be a NYRangers season ticket holder. The fans there sing the Canadian anthem as well. What's funny about the Garden is how the US anthem is treated. It's not a somber, listen to the anthem moment. It's a raucous cheering, with a crescendo building up to 'and the rockets red glare/the bombs bursting in air'. The noise for the US anthem is awesome. MSG hockey fans celebrate our anthem as our anthem is not a funeral dirge but a celebration of victory.

Posted by: RickZ at May 02, 2017 06:40 AM (xej1g)

571 "Civil war in South Africa? It sounds likely:"

First I've heard about this and it does look ugly. This Zuma sound like he has been taking economic lessons from Robert Mugabe. I'm sure seizing white owned land in SA will produce the same economic success it did in Zimbabwe.

The problem is the white in SA are a far higher percentage (10%) of the population than they were in Zimbabwe (1%) and are getting organized fast. None of this is a surprise, it was inevitable when the when surrendered power to the corrupt, socialist African National Congress so beloved by liberals. 30 years ago. The coming bloodbath is one of the benefits of diversity and socialism.

Posted by: Ripley at May 02, 2017 06:43 AM (1BQGO)

572 NOOD!!

Posted by: Bruce at May 02, 2017 06:46 AM (8ikIW)

573 VIa, if stately VIA Manor isn't in the city proper I would be advising migration, crew-serviced weapons, and tax dodges. Lots of tax loopholes.

Way back when the periodic table listed on 5 elements, rock, air, fire, water, and dirt, I had a girlfriend who lived on Bank Street, and later I had another one who lived in Towson. The quirky, productive city I remember has mostly changed for the worse.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 02, 2017 06:48 AM (u82oZ)

574 " any significant disability pretty much doomed you to being home bound or institutionalized? "

So the solution is to use threat of force?

So what part of charity says that using people with guns clubs, oh excuse me batons, and tasers to enforce charity is acceptable?

Are you going to say it rarely comes to force? That the unspoken threat of force is enough?

Passing laws like the so called disability acts are just pavement on the road to hell. Simple solutions for people who want to talk about helping the disadvantaged but don't really want to put much effort into it. Disabled people are just people. God gives everyone a way to be happy. Federal, State, and Local laws never make anyone happy in the long run. Go with God.

Don't get me started on all the wealthy people who want others to pay for their bike paths.

Posted by: Ok at May 02, 2017 07:04 AM (OE5e7)

575 I learned Oh Canada from the NHL.

"and the home of the ... BLUES!"

Posted by: mnw at May 02, 2017 07:38 AM (fE9nD)

576 554 "South Africa is the slow sinking Titanic, which knows it has struck the iceberg, but has been rearranging the deckchairs for the past 10 years or more."

With nukes, by the way.

Ps. I hope that guy with the tongs is taking the ice cube OUT of that drink! He's already killed the whiskey - why not just piss in it?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 02, 2017 10:07 AM (LeUrG)

577 Re: the National Anthem at a Canadian NHL game:
It is standard procedure at ALL NHL games (not just Stanley Cup games) that have an American NHL team vs. a Canadian NHL team to have both anthems sung, with the home anthem sung last. That's been the procedure for as long as I can remember.

Posted by: RonF at May 02, 2017 04:30 PM (l8nW6)

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A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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