Mid-Morning Open Thread

The Fighting Temeraire tugged to her Last Berth to be broken up, 1838
Joseph Mallord William Turner

There is something sad and era-ending about these scenes. Fighting ships seem to have hearts and minds, at least the romanticized version of them that lives in the hearts of the men who fought on them.

JMW Turner has always intrigued me. His scenes of the sea are best seen in person -- they don't have the impact on the small screen. But he also confuses me. This painting has me thinking that the sky is the subject, and the ship just happened to wander in to the scene...

Posted by: CBD at 09:40 AM

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1 Good stuff.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 28, 2017 09:35 AM (3Td/K)

2 Nice!

Posted by: IP at March 28, 2017 09:35 AM (UmSfZ)

3 I like to tug it

Posted by: Rick in SK at March 28, 2017 09:35 AM (FZYNt)

4 Is that tug pulling a ghost ship?

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 28, 2017 09:36 AM (yIPKR)

5 Oh -- when the title said "tugged," it means "towed by a tug." Cool. You're right, the sky and sunset (I presume it's sunset) seem to be the focus more than the ship.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 28, 2017 09:36 AM (3Td/K)

6 Reminds me of this, Mark Knopfler at his best

https://youtu.be/eWObmq1RZxg

Posted by: IP at March 28, 2017 09:36 AM (UmSfZ)

7 Hard to tell what's going on even when enlarged -is that the stern end with the rest of the ship under water?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2017 09:38 AM (NOIQH)

8 is this thing on?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 28, 2017 09:38 AM (KUaJL)

9 That's no Will Turner.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow at March 28, 2017 09:39 AM (72PAC)

10 >>There is something sad and era-ending about these scenes. Fighting ships seem to have hearts and minds, at least the romanticized version of them that lives in the hearts of the men who fought on them.

Sailing ships, even non-fighting ones, have a soul. It's always sad when they die.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 09:39 AM (/tuJf)

11 The Frick Collection in NY has an exhibition of Turner's port paintings now through May 14th, I really hope I can check that out.

Posted by: josephistan at March 28, 2017 09:39 AM (7HtZB)

12 Ah, Mark Knopfler. The soundtrack to " Local Hero". Something good to listen to today.

Posted by: kraken at March 28, 2017 09:40 AM (zSVEm)

13 Nice choice. This is one of my favorite Turners. It's a nice example of how light, color and the viewer all contribute to mood. Many scholars consider him the first Modernist.

Posted by: Kris at March 28, 2017 09:40 AM (nwqNw)

14 Morning, horde. I have a big interview this afternoon. I've been searching for over a year so this is probably my last hope to avoid foreclosure. For those so inclined, prayers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 28, 2017 09:40 AM (kTF2Z)

15 It's An Allegory!!!- a limerick

Our great ship of state's resignation
It comes back from its last battle station
As society burned
The tide it has turned
We now witness the Berth of a Nation

Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2017 09:40 AM (wPiJc)

16 I really like this, and I think it definitely captures the melancholy you feel when you're watching your ship pull into dock for the last time.

I get how the sky looks like the subject, but I take that more as a way to convey that when you're assigned to a ship, that ship is your entire world...but when you're off of it, it sure seems awfully small in comparison to the larger whole. And that ship, which used to be your whole world, is going away permanently.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at March 28, 2017 09:41 AM (eytER)

17 The USS Constitution, USS Constellation, HMS Victory - are there any other Age of Sail wooden fighting ships still afloat?

Posted by: josephistan at March 28, 2017 09:41 AM (7HtZB)

18 The Frick Collection in NY has an exhibition of Turner's port paintings now through May 14th

*****

**Takes notes**

The Frick, you say?

Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2017 09:41 AM (wPiJc)

19 >>For those so inclined, prayers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Good luck!

Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 09:42 AM (/tuJf)

20 14 - prayers for you Duke

Posted by: josephistan at March 28, 2017 09:42 AM (7HtZB)

21 Old war ships, passenger liners, cruise ships reach the end, just like people. Sad, but that's the order of life here on this old globe.

Posted by: Colin at March 28, 2017 09:42 AM (odQZE)

22 I have to say I do not like this one at all. To me the lighting is wrong, the color palette is wrong and the subject is misplaced. It appears that Turner painted over another painting he didn't like.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 28, 2017 09:43 AM (yIPKR)

23 Good luck and Prayers Duke!

Posted by: IP at March 28, 2017 09:43 AM (UmSfZ)

24 I remember they broadcast this live on TV

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 28, 2017 09:43 AM (FZYNt)

25 This painting was featured in Skyfall. "I see an old bloody ship."

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at March 28, 2017 09:43 AM (rX06+)

26
Geez - JJ's weird music still autoplays when on the front page. Can someone delete that gif?

I have JavaScript turned off, too.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 28, 2017 09:43 AM (ZFUt7)

27 It appears that Turner painted over another painting he didn't like.
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 28, 2017 09:43 AM (yIPKR)
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The Wiki says he did, or at least over one he'd started.

Posted by: IP at March 28, 2017 09:44 AM (UmSfZ)

28 I saw the steam tug as being the main character.

Another quibble, would they send a ship to the breakers with mast stepped and yards crossed?

Posted by: Kindltot at March 28, 2017 09:44 AM (0hI48)

29 This painting was featured in Skyfall. "I see an old bloody ship."

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at March 28, 2017 09:43 AM (rX06+)

Bond didn't quite know what that young guy wanted, didn't know he was the new Q....

Posted by: Colin at March 28, 2017 09:44 AM (odQZE)

30 There is something sad and era-ending about these scenes. Fighting ships seem to have hearts and minds, at least the romanticized version of them that lives in the hearts of the men who fought on them.

Gotta be hard turning one of those old wooden ships into razor blades.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 09:45 AM (4Utw1)

31 The USS Constitution, USS Constellation, HMS Victory - are there any other Age of Sail wooden fighting ships still afloat?

Posted by: josephistan at March 28, 2017 09:41 AM (7HtZB)
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USS Niagara

(though it has been so repaired that may be considered that little or nothing original remains)

Posted by: RioBravo at March 28, 2017 09:45 AM (SsblQ)

32 The USS Constitution, USS Constellation, HMS Victory - are there any other Age of Sail wooden fighting ships still afloat?

Posted by: josephistan at March 28, 2017 09:41 AM (7HtZB)

I spent the night on the USS Constellation with my son's cub scout troop. It was awful. We slept in the hammocks below deck. It was pouring down rain and the plastic covering the open windows was snapping in the wind all night. The hammocks were made for people who are about 5'6". I'm 6'4" and didn't sleep for one second. My then 8 year old loved it...

Posted by: Timon at March 28, 2017 09:45 AM (27k1O)

33 Morning, horde. I have a big interview this afternoon. I've been searching for over a year so this is probably my last hope to avoid foreclosure. For those so inclined, prayers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Posted by: Duke Lowell

Prayers up!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 09:46 AM (4Utw1)

34 I was in and out of Baltimore back when the USS Coral Sea was being broken up. That was damn sad to see.

Posted by: Eromero at March 28, 2017 09:46 AM (zLDYs)

35 Gotta be hard turning one of those old wooden ships into razor blades.

****

Now that's some cutting sarc.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2017 09:46 AM (wPiJc)

36 It's unclear whether this is a sunset or sunrise. Each are very old symbols with opposite meanings. Whichever you see is supposed to effect your interpretation of mood. If it's a sunset, then you're supposed to feel sadness and nostalgia for a glorious past passing away. If it's a sunrise, then the old is being replaced by the new. The steam-powered tugboat pulling the wind-powered ship reinforces this. The date also helps. Turner is painting this in 1839. The new modern world is about to begin.

Posted by: Kris at March 28, 2017 09:46 AM (nwqNw)

37 Posted by: IP at March 28, 2017 09:44 AM (UmSfZ)

Really ? So I just didn't pull that out of my ass?

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 28, 2017 09:47 AM (yIPKR)

38
Gotta be hard turning one of those old wooden ships into razor blades.

****

Now that's some cutting sarc.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2017 09:46 AM (wPiJc)

I'm inclined to deck you for that one.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 28, 2017 09:47 AM (XWkhW)

39 Needs more happy little trees.

Posted by: Roland THTG at March 28, 2017 09:47 AM (QM5S2)

40 There will never be an S.S President Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: IP at March 28, 2017 09:47 AM (UmSfZ)

41 31 USS Niagara

(though it has been so repaired that may be considered that little or nothing original remains)
Posted by: RioBravo at March 28, 2017 09:45 AM (SsblQ)

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I thought it was a complete recreation. The original Niagara burned in a fire at the museum that was holding it, I think.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 09:47 AM (mC1ZI)

42 So now we're posting picture of tug jobs?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 28, 2017 09:48 AM (4AVeu)

43 40 There will never be an S.S President Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: IP at March 28, 2017 09:47 AM (UmSfZ)

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If Kamala Harris ever becomes president, we'll probably see a S.S. She Persisted

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 09:48 AM (mC1ZI)

44 #28
Another quibble, would they send a ship to the breakers with mast stepped and yards crossed?
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There's probably an extant contract somewhere. I suspect money was involved.

Posted by: mrp at March 28, 2017 09:49 AM (Pqytn)

45 Really ? So I just didn't pull that out of my ass?
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 28, 2017 09:47 AM (yIPKR)
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I'm not qualified to speak to the true origin of your comments, but yes, the tug was once a big sail.

Posted by: IP at March 28, 2017 09:49 AM (UmSfZ)

46 The USS Constitution, USS Constellation, HMS Victory - are there any other Age of Sail wooden fighting ships still afloat?

Maybe it's been done - I don't watch movies enough to know - but I always wondered why a director of a disaster / invasion movie didn't have the Constitution coming out of dock, fully armed, her captain saying that, if they had to die, they were going down fighting.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2017 09:49 AM (X6fMO)

47 First and foremost, I'd like to tell all the 'rons in here, I love ya'll.

But...why do guys suck?

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 09:50 AM (smD62)

48 For those so inclined, prayers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Prayers up.

Stay frosty.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2017 09:50 AM (X6fMO)

49 Always sad when a ship gets broken up. You wish you could save them all but it's just not feasible.

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at March 28, 2017 09:50 AM (RD7QR)

50 But...why do guys suck?

Born this way...

Posted by: IP at March 28, 2017 09:50 AM (UmSfZ)

51 >>Old war ships, passenger liners, cruise ships reach the end, just like people. Sad, but that's the order of life here on this old globe.

Not all of them. Elizabeth Meyer is an heir to a large family fortune. She is also a sailor and developed a love for old sailing yachts. She started a school to both teach people about the craft of classic yacht building and restore old yachts.

She started with one of the J-boats, Endeavour, and the school has really grown. One of the major projects they are working on right now is the restoration/rebuild of the last of the great schooners from the 1800's, Coronet.

Anyone interested in what these yachts were built like can take a look here http://coronet1885.com .

Visitors are also welcome at the school if you are ever in the neighborhood.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 09:51 AM (/tuJf)

52 @6

Gotta respectfully disagree.

Brothers in Arms is...once in a generation special.

Chills every time.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 09:51 AM (smD62)

53 47 First and foremost, I'd like to tell all the 'rons in here, I love ya'll.

But...why do guys suck?
Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 09:50 AM (smD62)

#notallguys!

But seriously, yeah, we suck. Most of us are stupid, some are malevolent. It's sometimes difficult to tell the difference between the two.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 28, 2017 09:51 AM (KUaJL)

54 saw these on yahpoo yesterday, wnated to mention in case no one has already

first -- no comment needed:

Rachel Dolezal, former president of the Spokane, Wash., chapter of the NAACP, rose to infamy in 2015 when it was discovered that she had been misrepresenting herself as black even though she was, in fact, born to two white parents.

The controversial figure went on Today to talk to host Savannah Guthrie about her new book, In Full Color: Finding My Place in a Black and White World, and to, surprisingly, double down on the statement that she identifies as black. Despite facing backlash after the truth came out, Dolezal has consistently refused to apologize or back down from the assertion that black is the race she feels most closely represents her.

Although Dolezal still seems to be going by her given name in public appearances for the time being, she recently had her name legally changed to Nkechi Amare Diallo.

and second, tell me they're not trying to let people think it must have been a Trump supporter:

"Earlier this month, an American man was arrested for allegedly calling in threats to Jewish Community Centers, allegedly as a way to settle a romantic score. Last week an Israeli teen was arrested in other, similar cases. His motive has not been disclosed."

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at March 28, 2017 09:52 AM (b7fwp)

55 Now that's some cutting sarc.

Posted by: Muldoon

I'm inclined to deck you for that one.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur

Come on guys, don't keel each other without knowing the hull story.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at March 28, 2017 09:52 AM (9krrF)

56 55 Now that's some cutting sarc.

Posted by: Muldoon

I'm inclined to deck you for that one.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur

Come on guys, don't keel each other without knowing the hull story.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at March 28, 2017 09:52 AM (9krrF).

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I like the cut of this guy's jib.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 09:52 AM (mC1ZI)

57 Come on guys, don't keel each other without knowing the hull story.
Posted by: Brothe

You're going to get a stern lecture, if you keep up these ship puns.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 28, 2017 09:53 AM (KUaJL)

58 The National Gallery in London was a 15 minute walk from our office. Used to walk over, through Green Park, especially in the summer, over lunch. Saw "The Impressionists" there, the whole exhibit. Good times.

Posted by: Javems at March 28, 2017 09:53 AM (yOqwj)

59 From Wikipedia:

This final voyage was depicted in a J. M. W. Turner oil painting greeted with critical acclaim, entitled The Fighting Temeraire tugged to her last Berth to be broken up, 1838. The painting continues to be held in high regard and was voted Britain's favourite painting in 2005.

Posted by: scottst at March 28, 2017 09:53 AM (peQUF)

60 First and foremost, I'd like to tell all the 'rons in here, I love ya'll.

But...why do guys suck?

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 09:50 AM (smD62)

Well, going to an all-male boarding school, you sometimes have to -

- oh, wait, you meant in general?

Because people suck, I suspect. But what's wrong?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2017 09:53 AM (X6fMO)

61 You're going to get a stern lecture, if you keep up these ship puns.

Yea, wood you all knock that ship off.

Posted by: IP at March 28, 2017 09:54 AM (UmSfZ)

62 Duke, I am very much so inclined, and I will pray heartily that this job comes through!

CBD, I like this picture. I see it as a sunset, with regard to what Kris said above. It's the end for this ship. Very pretty, and I'm sure it's even better in person.

Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2017 09:54 AM (sBOL1)

63 Needs more happy little trees.

Posted by: Roland THTG

There used to be, but they were cut down to build the boat in the first place.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at March 28, 2017 09:54 AM (9krrF)

64 26 I have JavaScript turned off, too.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 28, 2017 09:43 AM (ZFUt7)

Get No Script

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 09:55 AM (mpXpK)

65 12 Ah, Mark Knopfler. The soundtrack to " Local Hero". Something good to listen to today.

One of my favorite movies.

Posted by: ChupaMe at March 28, 2017 09:55 AM (vE2qF)

66 The National Gallery in London was a 15 minute walk from our office. Used to walk over, through Green Park, especially in the summer, over lunch. Saw "The Impressionists" there, the whole exhibit. Good times.
Posted by: Javems at March 28, 2017 09:53 AM (yOqwj)
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Lucky. I'm jealous.

Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2017 09:55 AM (sBOL1)

67 You're going to get a stern lecture, if you keep up these ship puns.

Yea, wood you all knock that ship off.

You guys keel me.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at March 28, 2017 09:56 AM (PFy0L)

68 Well, going to an all-male boarding school, you sometimes have to -

They're not ghey, but $20 is $20......

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 09:56 AM (4Utw1)

69 Breathtaking!

Great choice, CBD.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at March 28, 2017 09:57 AM (oQQwD)

70 @60

Just guy issues. (Obviously)

One day he's hot, the next, he's cold, and I have no explanation.

He's supposed to call tonight, so I guess he's still interested in me.

And, I wonder if I should just move on, but it would be to a new guy, and the process would start all over again. Gah!

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 09:57 AM (smD62)

71 This painting was featured in Skyfall. "I see an old bloody ship."
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at March 28, 2017 09:43 AM (rX06+)

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I liked that scene. A light touch in a darkish movie.

Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2017 09:58 AM (sBOL1)

72 Hi, CBD. Do you take requests?

Posted by: Kris at March 28, 2017 09:59 AM (nwqNw)

73 to a new guy, and the process would start all over again.

Nothing good is easy, nothing easy is good.

Posted by: IP at March 28, 2017 09:59 AM (UmSfZ)

74 Get No Script
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

I have that on laptop.

Using phone right now. Someone else with phone yesterday had same problem. I finally turned volume off. Couldn't kill the sucker.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 28, 2017 09:59 AM (ZFUt7)

75 Thus endeth the era of the seafaring swashbuckler.

Posted by: Fritz at March 28, 2017 09:59 AM (2Mnv1)

76 well ok, except pudding, pudding is easy and good....

Posted by: IP at March 28, 2017 10:00 AM (UmSfZ)

77 Lucky. I'm jealous.

Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2017 09:55 AM (sBOL1)
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Me too oddly enough. I jealous of my young self.

Posted by: Javems at March 28, 2017 10:00 AM (yOqwj)

78 Many scholars consider him the first Modernist.

Posted by: Kris at March 28, 2017 09:40 AM (nwqNw)

That's what confuses me. He seems to have one foot in each camp.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2017 10:00 AM (rF0hx)

79 Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 09:57 AM (smD62)

**ponders**

Could be a number of explanations. Might be coming off a bad relationship and is still nervous. Might not be sure whether he's really into you. Might be just jerking you around.

Hard to say, really.

My advice, for what it's worth, would be to just lay it out - "I'm too old* to play games. Is this going anywhere or not?" Not that his answer will necessarily be honest, but at least you've drawn a line in the sand.

*Joke. You are, of course, 29, dewy and luscious.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2017 10:01 AM (X6fMO)

80 But he also confuses me. This painting has me thinking that the sky is the subject, and the ship just happened to wander in to the scene...

I wonder if he painted the sky that way as it's farewell to the Temeraire? If the old war ships were deemed to have a personality and living quality to them, then they would understandably have a relationship with the elements-wind, rain, sun- that contribute to their journey.

Because the ship looks old and ghostly, I think the progenitor of the elements, the sky, is saying goodby to an old friend. One it didn't mind slapping around.

Posted by: moki at March 28, 2017 10:02 AM (wuzmq)

81 46 The USS Constitution, USS Constellation, HMS Victory - are there any other Age of Sail wooden fighting ships still afloat?

Maybe it's been done - I don't watch movies enough to know - but I always wondered why a director of a disaster / invasion movie didn't have the Constitution coming out of dock, fully armed, her captain saying that, if they had to die, they were going down fighting.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2017 09:49 AM (X6fMO)

There was an episode of the 80s G.I. Joe cartoon in which Cobra launched an EMP strike, so the Constitution set sail to fight Cobra, since she has no electronics.

Posted by: josephistan at March 28, 2017 10:02 AM (7HtZB)

82 No people ... always a plus.

You're right though, CBD. Ship looks like something he threw in at the end.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2017 10:02 AM (tFWWx)

83 Do you take requests?

Posted by: Kris at March 28, 2017 09:59 AM (nwqNw)

Yes...occasionally.

For instance, Bluebell requested a Lucian Freud/Yoko Ono marathon.

cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2017 10:03 AM (rF0hx)

84 Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 09:57 AM (smD62)

Sort of impossible to tell exactly what's going on without knowing the guy in question. Worst case scenario, he's got other logs on the fire so to speak. On the other end of the spectrum, he could just be shy and not feel like he has anything to talk about. Also dependent on how long you've been seeing each other. That situation seems a lot more worrisome if you've been together a year than if you only met last month.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 28, 2017 10:03 AM (KUaJL)

85 @79

Maybe. He said, not 5 days ago that he was very interested in me, so maybe after saying that...he started to re-think things.

Lol. I am dewy and luscious. Not 29 though. However, he's 11 years older, so not sure the "I'm too old..." thing is going to fly. HE'S too old to be so wishy-washy. Lol. But gosh, I like him.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 10:04 AM (smD62)

86 "You guys keel me."

If you're going to argue over this, take turns at the rostrum.

Posted by: Robert Crawford at March 28, 2017 10:04 AM (xhEbi)

87 Not usually sentimental about breaking up a ship, but tearing up the USS Enterprise (CV-6) hurts a bit.

Posted by: mrp at March 28, 2017 10:04 AM (Pqytn)

88 #notallguys!

But seriously, yeah, we suck. Most of us are stupid, some are malevolent. It's sometimes difficult to tell the difference between the two.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 28, 2017 09:51 AM (KUaJL)
*
*
No. We get enough man-shaming from the lefties and SJWs. Men are the backbone of society, and built the finest civilization in history together with our women.

Oh, sure, some are stupid and malevolent. No question. But the positive needs to be weighed as well.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 28, 2017 10:04 AM (3Td/K)

89 85 @79

Maybe. He said, not 5 days ago that he was very interested in me, so maybe after saying that...he started to re-think things.

Lol. I am dewy and luscious. Not 29 though. However, he's 11 years older, so not sure the "I'm too old..." thing is going to fly. HE'S too old to be so wishy-washy. Lol. But gosh, I like him.
Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 10:04 AM (smD62)

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You know what I've learned helps things along?

Fake kidnappings.

Like a charm.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 10:04 AM (mC1ZI)

90 JMW Turner is not one of my favorites -- his perspectives always seem off to me. Colors are beautiful, but . . . meh.

I keep waiting for Gericault's Raft of the Medusa.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 28, 2017 10:05 AM (MIKMs)

91 I drive over to the Bremerton Naval shipyards from time to time.
Ships lined up to be cut up. It's a sad place to me. (And I'm an army guy)

Posted by: Diogenes at March 28, 2017 10:05 AM (qt8uo)

92 For instance, Bluebell requested a Lucian Freud/Yoko Ono marathon.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2017 10:03 AM (rF0hx)

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Good thing morons don't wear pants, because yours would be in flames.

Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2017 10:05 AM (sBOL1)

93 >>But he also confuses me. This painting has me thinking that the sky is the subject, and the ship just happened to wander in to the scene...

It seems to me that the ship is painted as a ghost like apparition being towed to her doom as the sun sets on both her life and the day.

But then I'm romantic about ships.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 10:05 AM (/tuJf)

94 First, today's painting. The sunset sky marks an end and the idea of 'ending' dominates this image. The Temeraire appears almost as a ghost but with enough detail to show the grace and craftsmanship of her builders. (Fascinating use of color more than lines to bring out those details.) The tug, spewing smoke, squat and dark and ugly against the grace of the dying vessel, is the one solid in the image. The rest: changing sky, day's end, the Temeraire, even the sailing vessel in the background, are all passing and ephemeral. It's an interesting and evocative contrast. Even though Turner's color choices aren't dark, he still conveys the an inevitable sadness to our world.

Second, I'm surprised Turner isn't better known. Look at the Wiki page which shows a number of his paintings over his career. They start out as rather typical for the mid to late 1700s. But he kept innovating. Over time you can see where he brought out more use of brilliant color, like the Luminists, to bring out details and later still, swirls of color that presages the Impressionists.

CBD, I'm sure you are correct. Seeing these works in person would be great. Thanks for more interesting art.

Posted by: JTB at March 28, 2017 10:05 AM (V+03K)

95 87
Not usually sentimental about breaking up a ship, but tearing up the USS Enterprise (CV-6) hurts a bit.

Posted by: mrp at March 28, 2017 10:04 AM (Pqytn)

And so does tearing up CVN-65, my old ship.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 10:05 AM (mpXpK)

96 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2017 10:00 AM (rF0hx)

A lot of artists do, actually, especially in their late careers or during cultural transitions. Michelangelo's very late works are more Mannerist than Late Renaissance. Turner, Manet, Wright of Derby just to name a few off the top of my head.

Art history is an excellent way of tracking cultural evolution. In some cases, the only way.

Posted by: Kris at March 28, 2017 10:05 AM (nwqNw)

97 57 Come on guys, don't keel each other without knowing the hull story.
Posted by: Brothe

You're going to get a stern lecture, if you keep up these ship puns.
*
*
The punsters should all take a bow.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 28, 2017 10:06 AM (3Td/K)

98 Now that's some cutting sarc.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2017 09:46 AM

I bow before you.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 28, 2017 10:06 AM (DMUuz)

99 In a 2005 BBC poll it was voted Britons' favorite painting.

Posted by: General Zod at March 28, 2017 10:06 AM (Bdeb0)

100 Lol. I am dewy and luscious.

How you doin'?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 10:08 AM (4Utw1)

101 Morning, horde. I have a big interview this
afternoon. I've been searching for over a year so this is probably my
last hope to avoid foreclosure. For those so inclined, prayers would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 28, 2017 09:40 AM

Prayers up, guy. Best of luck!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 28, 2017 10:08 AM (p+Wdc)

102 By the way, the Temeraire fought at Trafalgar.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2017 10:08 AM (rF0hx)

103 You know what I've learned helps things along? Fake kidnappings. Like a charm.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 10:04 AM (mC1ZI)

Solid advice JM. How about lying about a terminal illness ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2017 10:08 AM (tFWWx)

104 98 Now that's some cutting sarc.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2017 09:46 AM

I bow before you.

*
*
I sprit in your general direction.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 28, 2017 10:08 AM (3Td/K)

105 There's a great little air museum outside of Philly that doesn't get many visitors because of the location. I have a dream that they would purchase the USS John F Kennedy, which is in storage in Philadelphia, and turn it into a museum ship alongside the USS Olympia & USS New Jersey.

Posted by: josephistan at March 28, 2017 10:09 AM (7HtZB)

106 The first ship I served on in the Navy in 1971 was made of wood. But it was powered by diesel instead of wind.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 28, 2017 10:09 AM (IqV8l)

107 You would have to have two suns for this painting to make sense.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 28, 2017 10:09 AM (yIPKR)

108 1. lying about a terminal illness
2???
3. Profit!

Posted by: IP at March 28, 2017 10:09 AM (UmSfZ)

109 I don't want to drowned in a wave of pun zes
I don't want to drowned in a wave of pun zes
I don't want to drowned in a wave of pun zee
Earl lie in the morning ...

Posted by: Adriane the Sea Chanty Critic ... at March 28, 2017 10:10 AM (AoK0a)

110 89 85 @79

Maybe. He said, not 5 days ago that he was very interested in me, so maybe after saying that...he started to re-think things.

Lol. I am dewy and luscious. Not 29 though. However, he's 11 years older, so not sure the "I'm too old..." thing is going to fly. HE'S too old to be so wishy-washy. Lol. But gosh, I like him.
Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 10:04 AM (smD62)

==================

You know what I've learned helps things along?

Fake kidnappings.

Like a charm.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 10:04 AM (mC1ZI)

Knives. Works like a charm. At least that's what a former girlfriend said.

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at March 28, 2017 10:11 AM (RD7QR)

111 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2017 10:08 AM (rF0hx)

Yes. Its decommissioning was so meaningful that Turner used it as a symbol here.

Posted by: Kris at March 28, 2017 10:11 AM (nwqNw)

112 105 There's a great little air museum outside of Philly that doesn't get many visitors because of the location. I have a dream that they would purchase the USS John F Kennedy, which is in storage in Philadelphia, and turn it into a museum ship alongside the USS Olympia & USS New Jersey.
Posted by: josephistan at March 28, 2017 10:09 AM (7HtZB)

When I was an NROTC midshipman, we were responsible for cleaning and maintaining the Olympia. Good times.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at March 28, 2017 10:11 AM (rX06+)

113 Makes me think of Novik's series about dragons fighting for the Brits -- Temeraire. Very nice series and actually good for YA readers.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 28, 2017 10:11 AM (MIKMs)

114 You know what I've learned helps things along?

Fake kidnappings.

Like a charm.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 10:04 AM (mC1ZI)

Works for me!

Posted by: Patty Hearst at March 28, 2017 10:11 AM (X6fMO)

115 Prayers sent up Duke. Good luck in the interview!!

Posted by: moki at March 28, 2017 10:11 AM (wuzmq)

116 A Moron can be quite the pun producer
But if it goes to far it's a reducer
You start with a majestic ship
And pun by pun you slowly chip
Until you're stuck on the Raft of the Medusa!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at March 28, 2017 10:12 AM (9krrF)

117 106
The first ship I served on in the Navy in 1971 was made of wood. But it was powered by diesel instead of wind.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 28, 2017 10:09 AM (IqV8l)

Mine Layer?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 10:12 AM (mpXpK)

118 You know what I've learned helps things along?

Fake kidnappings.

Like a charm.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 10:04 AM (mC1ZI)

Knives. Works like a charm. At least that's what a former girlfriend said.
Posted by: joncelli

Way to a man's heart?
Straight thru the sternum. According to my ex.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 10:12 AM (4Utw1)

119 I really look forward to CBD's art choices each week day. Trying to explain why a certain painting has appeal (or not) forces me to notice more and more about the artist's technique, color choices, and context. That's fun. (Yes, I know I'm strange.)

Posted by: JTB at March 28, 2017 10:12 AM (V+03K)

120 Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 28, 2017 09:40 AM

Prayers for Strength in these Crazy Years ...

Posted by: Adriane the Sea Chanty Critic ... at March 28, 2017 10:13 AM (AoK0a)

121 Turner is arguably the greatest colorist of all painters. All of the subjects of his paintings are--to me anyway--incidental to the color schema.

The great art critic John Ruskin wrote several essays regarding Turner's art. Strongly recommended.

Posted by: troyriser at March 28, 2017 10:13 AM (Fw5cQ)

122
Mine Layer?
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

Mine sweeper. MSO-449

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 28, 2017 10:13 AM (IqV8l)

123 The SS United States is also rusting away in Philadelphia.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 28, 2017 10:14 AM (SsblQ)

124 118 You know what I've learned helps things along?

Fake kidnappings.

Like a charm.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 10:04 AM (mC1ZI)

Knives. Works like a charm. At least that's what a former girlfriend said.
Posted by: joncelli

Way to a man's heart?
Straight thru the sternum. According to my ex.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 10:12 AM (4Utw1)

Which is why we speak of the respective women as "former" and "ex". (RUN AWAY!!!)

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at March 28, 2017 10:14 AM (RD7QR)

125 This painting has me thinking that the sky is the subject, and the ship just happened to wander in to the scene...
If I may draw a parallel, The Vietnam Memorial. As big a war as that was, in many ways the memorial seems like a footnote to it. Not grand, not imposing, not calling attention to itself. It is at peace with its surroundings and you have to look for it to find it.
So it is with the painting of this ship. No fanfare. Its job is done. Yes, attention goes elsewhere when the Sheepdog is put down.

Posted by: MikeW at March 28, 2017 10:14 AM (uEYzb)

126 I find it interesting that steam-powered tug boats were in use as early as 1836.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2017 10:14 AM (WDdjT)

127 Fun Fact: Turner was a finger-painter in his late career.

Posted by: Kris at March 28, 2017 10:14 AM (nwqNw)

128 Yes, the sky is dramatic, but that's not the subject - it's merely setting a dramatic tone.

The subjects are a relatively detailed image of a steam tug, with an ethereal image of Temeraire behind it.

It's a bit ham handed and obvious, but that's not always a bad thing. The subject - the passing of one era into another - is rather cut and dry. And, I'm sure for those who were living it, a bit dramatic.

It is quite possible that in our lifetime we will see manned combat aircraft get phased out, in favor of unmanned drones. A similar painting will be appropriate...

Posted by: RobM1981 at March 28, 2017 10:14 AM (qlIZh)

129 Kidnappings. Illnesses. Knives.

Why do we make things so complicated, when the simple and obvious answer is right in front of us ?

Tell him your pregnant !!!

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2017 10:15 AM (tFWWx)

130 Turner was a finger-painter in his late career.

Manicurist?

Posted by: IP at March 28, 2017 10:15 AM (UmSfZ)

131 This painting reminds me of the fact that I still haven't finished reading The Fighting Temeraire.

*sigh*

The Stack of Unfinished Books continues to grow.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 28, 2017 10:15 AM (p+Wdc)

132 Old ships never die, they just fade away. The Temeraine is just off center, featured but without detail, illuminated but not by the setting sun.

A reminder of her glory but not a memorial, just the turning of a page in history, without her contributions.

Good painting.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at March 28, 2017 10:15 AM (7N6ox)

133 The sun is obviously his mother's vagina.
duh

Posted by: Frank Booth at March 28, 2017 10:15 AM (2tC+q)

134 Good thing morons don't wear pants, because yours would be in flames.

Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2017 10:05 AM (sBOL1)

Yeah, well, what do you expect from a Yankee fan?

*Donna throws a match on the bonfire and innocently strolls away, whistling "Take Me Out to the Ballpark*

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 28, 2017 10:16 AM (s7vJs)

135 I second the request for "Raft of the Medusa", but how about a Casper David Friedrich?

Posted by: Kris at March 28, 2017 10:16 AM (nwqNw)

136 How about lying about a terminal illness ?

Basically the plot of 1937s Nothing Sacred, with Carole Lombard and Frederic March. Which later was transformed by Broadway composer Jule Styne into the show Hazel Flagg, which itself got transformed into the 1954 Martin and Lewis movie Living It Up.

http://tinyurl.com/nxodmtw

Posted by: Patty Hearst at March 28, 2017 10:16 AM (X6fMO)

137 Yeah, well, what do you expect from a Yankee fan?

*Donna throws a match on the bonfire and innocently strolls away, whistling "Take Me Out to the Ballpark*
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 28, 2017 10:16 AM (s7vJs)
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**fistbump**

Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2017 10:17 AM (sBOL1)

138 You want that I should email him?

Posted by: Haven Monaghan at March 28, 2017 10:18 AM (kTF2Z)

139 The SS United States is also rusting away in Philadelphia.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 28, 2017 10:14 AM (SsblQ)

It's still afloat? I saw her in '72 in Norfolk/Portsmouth...recently removed from service.

Posted by: BignJames at March 28, 2017 10:18 AM (x9c8r)

140 Not as awful as Rothko, but too impressionist-y.

Posted by: Auguste Toulemouche at March 28, 2017 10:19 AM (vRcUp)

141
Since it is a day ending in the letter 'y' - losing presidential candidate John McCain just got in front of a camera and criticized winning presidential candidate Donald Trump.

'More revelations to come', he claims. He's probably running down to Comey's office with some more bedwetting stories from his 'friends'.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 28, 2017 10:19 AM (ZFUt7)

142 Holbein The Ambassadors is another I would like to see. Or one of the great set pieces with endlessly intricate costumes -- hypnotic.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 28, 2017 10:19 AM (MIKMs)

143 126 I find it interesting that steam-powered tug boats were in use as early as 1836.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2017 10:14 AM (WDdjT)

Steam ships were developed in the early 1800s, just after the Napoleonic Wars.

Posted by: josephistan at March 28, 2017 10:19 AM (7HtZB)

144 136 How about lying about a terminal illness ?

Basically the plot of 1937s Nothing Sacred, with Carole Lombard and Frederic March. Which later was transformed by Broadway composer Jule Styne into the show Hazel Flagg, which itself got transformed into the 1954 Martin and Lewis movie Living It Up.

http://tinyurl.com/nxodmtw
Posted by: Patty Hearst at March 28, 2017 10:16 AM (X6fMO)

Or, if that doesn't work. Invent another guy who is supposedly interested in you, and as that guy contact your guy bragging about you to him.

That is sure to work and in no way will end up as a Rolling Stone story and a lawsuit for your university.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 28, 2017 10:19 AM (KUaJL)

145 >>I find it interesting that steam-powered tug boats were in use as early as 1836

That might be part of the symbolism in the painting. It was right around this time that the Royal Navy started adopting steam ships as a viable addition and then replacement for sail.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 10:19 AM (/tuJf)

146 Tickled Pink, for what it's worth, I didn't use knives or kidnappings or anything like that. Thirty years ago, I baited my honey trap with food. I could cook; he couldn't.

He liked my cooking. Then I just reeled him in.

He still doesn't cook. I still do. Happiness reigns supreme.

Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2017 10:19 AM (sBOL1)

147 You want that I should email him?
Posted by: Haven Monaghan

We can always have a talk with him.
Posted by: AoSHQ Tune-Up Squad

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 10:21 AM (4Utw1)

148 This painting is a real dog.

Posted by: Hooch at March 28, 2017 10:21 AM (vRcUp)

149 139 The SS United States is also rusting away in Philadelphia.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 28, 2017 10:14 AM (SsblQ)

It's still afloat? I saw her in '72 in Norfolk/Portsmouth...recently removed from service.
Posted by: BignJames at March 28, 2017 10:18 AM (x9c8r)

The wife and I saw it in 2008 or 2009 (forget which) while on a dinner cruise. It was a bit creepy, just berthed with a few lights, like a ghost ship. It's still there, AFAIK.

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at March 28, 2017 10:21 AM (RD7QR)

150 It's still afloat? I saw her in '72 in Norfolk/Portsmouth...recently removed from service.

Posted by: BignJames at March 28, 2017 10:18 AM (x9c8r)
---------------
As of last year it was still afloat. There are/were plans to restore it as a museum but the cost will probably be prohibitive - hundreds of millions. It has been costing $800,000/year just to keep it somewhat stabilized. There is good info on the various plans over the years in the WikiP article on the ship.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 28, 2017 10:22 AM (SsblQ)

151 Yeah, I'm thinking the whole logs on the fire thing makes the most sense.

He was super intensely into me. And, now he's more tepidly into me-ish.

He got something going with someone else is the only thing that makes sense at all.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 10:22 AM (smD62)

152 Steam ships were developed in the early 1800s, just after the Napoleonic Wars.
Posted by: josephistan

People were tired of rowing by then.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 10:22 AM (4Utw1)

153 121 ... Thanks for mentioning the Ruskin criticism of Turner. That volume is available as a free Kindle book. Should make interesting reading.

Posted by: JTB at March 28, 2017 10:23 AM (V+03K)

154 That's how I won mine over as well bluebell. He was living off of Dinty Moore stew and TV dinners. First time I made pasta I had him! He still can't even boil water without burning the pan, although nowadays that's more because of his stroke (he has become very forgetful).

Posted by: deplorable Jewells45 at March 28, 2017 10:23 AM (zRZaJ)

155 Thirty years ago, I baited my honey trap with food.

Kinky ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2017 10:23 AM (tFWWx)

156 152 Steam ships were developed in the early 1800s, just after the Napoleonic Wars.
Posted by: josephistan

People were tired of rowing by then.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 10:22 AM (4Utw1)

I rowed all the way up the Hudson and boy are my arms tired!

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at March 28, 2017 10:23 AM (RD7QR)

157 You could always make him a sandwich. That is a sure fire apparently

https://youtu.be/5IwVWA2HY5M

Posted by: Kindltot at March 28, 2017 10:23 AM (0hI48)

158 Ugh....I was off Friday, I called in sick yesterday and now I'm back at work....trying so desperately to not work....God, I don't wanna be here.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at March 28, 2017 10:23 AM (vg8iE)

159 If I may draw a parallel, The Vietnam Memorial. As big a war as that was, in many ways the memorial seems like a footnote to it. Not grand, not imposing, not calling attention to itself. It is at peace with its surroundings and you have to look for it to find it.

When it was designed and built there was a lot of controversy that as a monument, it wasn't "monumental"

But visiting in person, it is perfect.

It had been described as a gash in the Mall, and in a way, yes, in much the same way that Vietnam is a gash in American history. As you walk down the wall you go deeper into the Earth, and the sounds of the city around you get muffled. It is a church like quiet, and very, very respectful to all the names on that wall.

I first visited in the 80s when it was new. I saw people, families, standing in silence, hand placed on a name. I saw people doing rubbings. I saw items left in remembrance - medals, pictures. I saw a man standing with his son, he was pointing to names, and saying that they were his friends. Telling his son about when he was young.

It made me blubber. Eyes misting up now remembering it.

Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2017 10:23 AM (0+824)

160 Many years ago my college roommate had an assignment for an art appreciation or humanities class. She had been assigned a Turner painting and had to select music that evoked the painting. I suggested Barber's Adagio for Strings, and that is what I hear in my mind whenever I see a Turner painting. There is an unmistakable sadness about his paintings.

Posted by: biancaneve at March 28, 2017 10:24 AM (A/iod)

161 ♫♪

It's a long way, to Temeraire
It's a long way, to tow...

Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2017 10:24 AM (lHb9q)

162 Jewells, I've been wondering how your husband is doing. I actually think I asked about him within the last couple of weeks but with my impeccable timing, I think you had already left.

Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2017 10:25 AM (sBOL1)

163 Not art.

barely even decoration.

What abomination is next? Leger? Kandinsky? Frikken Banksy?

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at March 28, 2017 10:25 AM (CPk08)

164 I've only had an afternoon sailing on an old wooden trader ship that is a sailing school but also works cargo from Puget Sound to Hawaii and Alaska. It would be a tough life sleeping in a hammock, covered with tar from.head to toes.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at March 28, 2017 10:26 AM (Pgzpf)

165 Not art.

barely even decoration.

What abomination is next? Leger? Kandinsky? Frikken Banksy?
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In

Kinkade.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 10:26 AM (4Utw1)

166 It's a long way, to Temeraire
It's a long way, to tow...
Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2017 10:24 AM (lHb9q)

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With a load of iron ore
26 Thousand tons more
That the Temeraire weighed empty.....

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 10:27 AM (8XRCm)

167 131 ... Redmindbluestate, Who wrote your copy of The Fighting Temeraire?

Posted by: JTB at March 28, 2017 10:27 AM (V+03K)

168 Been perusing the comments from this morning. And it always makes me wonder how much of the anti-Trump news is fake. Probably 90%. I'm beginning to not even trust the blogs anymore.

Posted by: Soona at March 28, 2017 10:27 AM (0rpO6)

169 Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2017 10:23 AM (0+824)

I always made sure I taught the Vietnam Memorial. It is one of the most beautiful war memorials in Washington. It is perfect. It also drips with symbolism, from its material to its location, even the arrangement of the inscriptions.

Posted by: Kris at March 28, 2017 10:28 AM (nwqNw)

170 What abomination is next? Leger? Kandinsky? Frikken Banksy?
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at March 28, 2017 10:25 AM (CPk0

-------------

Yes, but at least there's a cabin in this one.

Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2017 10:28 AM (sBOL1)

171 With a load of iron ore
26 Thousand tons more
That the Temeraire weighed empty.....

With 15 more miles behind her, she'd have made Whitefish Bay......

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 10:28 AM (4Utw1)

172 I see the bow of an Aegis missile cruiser in the background.

Posted by: Under Fire at March 28, 2017 10:28 AM (nN3W/)

173 Looks cropped a bit; the rule of thirds doesn't exactly fit.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 28, 2017 10:28 AM (GgzGa)

174 He got something going with someone else is the only thing that makes sense at all.
Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 10:22 AM (smD62)

Nothin' a spontaneous case of Terminal SpinalMeningitis with a thirty day prognosis can't fix.

And then ... with all that time together ... you can sweep him off his feet. Just imagine how happy he'll be when you beat the odds and survive !!!

Come on ... let's do this !!!

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2017 10:29 AM (tFWWx)

175 12 Ah, Mark Knopfler. The soundtrack to " Local Hero". Something good to listen to today.
Posted by: kraken at March 28, 2017 09:40 AM (zSVEm)

He also did the soundtrack for The Princess Bride

Posted by: No One of Consequence at March 28, 2017 10:29 AM (BXC+l)

176 It's a long way, to Temeraire
It's a long way, to tow...
Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2017 10:24 AM (lHb9q)

-----

With a load of iron ore
26 Thousand tons more
That the Temeraire weighed empty.....

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 10:27 AM (8XRCm)

Turned nine times around
And the poor old dog was drowned -
I'm the last of the Temeraire!

Posted by: Patty Hearst at March 28, 2017 10:29 AM (X6fMO)

177 You know what I've learned helps things along?

Fake kidnappings.

Fake *kidnappings* are for amateurs. There's other stuff you could fake.

Posted by: Haven Monahan at March 28, 2017 10:29 AM (3J/LN)

178 And so does tearing up CVN-65, my old ship.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 10:05 AM (mpXpK)

Vic, yeah that really sucks. But as you are no doubt aware, the Enterprise was a one-off design with (was it six or eight, can't remember) nuclear reactors in it. In order to decommission and remove all those reactors they literally have to tear the ship apart. Dammit.

Posted by: The Oort Cloud - No-Longer-Deplorable Source of all SMODs at March 28, 2017 10:30 AM (T1H5V)

179 Steam ships were developed in the early 1800s, just after the Napoleonic Wars.
Posted by: josephistan at March 28, 2017 10:19 AM (7HtZB)

Robert Fulton had been working on steam power and attempted to build a steam ram to attack British warships in the War of 1812.

In a dead calm it could have sailed around the British ships and bombarded them at will. He also was experimenting with torpedoes and underwater cannon.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 28, 2017 10:31 AM (0hI48)

180 Fake *kidnappings* are for amateurs. There's other stuff you could fake.

Pregnancy. Bi-polarism. Cray cray.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 10:31 AM (4Utw1)

181
**noodles around.... searching for a "gitche gumie" pun

**rubs forehead**

**gives up"

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 10:31 AM (8XRCm)

182 Off, terrorist sock.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2017 10:32 AM (X6fMO)

183 Does he have a pet rabbit by any chance?

Posted by: Glenn Close at March 28, 2017 10:33 AM (kTF2Z)

184 Steam boats worked the Brazos River near here from the 1840's on. According to the handbill in our little museum the trip up the river to Washington on the Brazos cost a cord of split wood, pecan or hackberry. I don't know which is worse, walking fifty miles or splitting a cord of wood.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at March 28, 2017 10:33 AM (Pgzpf)

185 Oh yeah. Fake cray cray. Guys can't wait to dip their wick in cray cray.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 10:33 AM (4Utw1)

186 Hi bluebell, thank you for asking. Physically he's about 90% back to normal. Mentally, I thinking he's actually a little worse. As I mentioned he's become very forgetful to the point sometimes I am afraid to go to work, afraid he may do something to hurt himself or burn the damn house down! He'a constantly tired but I think it's his medication. Definitely not the man he was but I keep praying. But he's alive.. it's all I care about.

Posted by: deplorable Jewells45 at March 28, 2017 10:33 AM (zRZaJ)

187 165 Not art.

barely even decoration.

What abomination is next? Leger? Kandinsky? Frikken Banksy?
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In

Damn this new fangled modern art from 1838!

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 28, 2017 10:33 AM (s7vJs)

188 141 'More revelations to come', he claims. He's probably
running down to Comey's office with some more bedwetting stories from
his 'friends'.

Posted by: at March 28, 2017 10:19 AM (ZFUt7)

Does he have any "friends" on the Republican side?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 10:33 AM (mpXpK)

189 I don't know which is worse, walking fifty miles or splitting a cord of wood.

Yes.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 10:33 AM (4Utw1)

190 I just arose, with a thought so profound, so important, that I've rushed to the computer to convey it... after feeding the pets, getting a bite for myself, and making coffee... but otherwise rushed to convey this:

In Soviet Union, beef wagyu.

.
.
.

Perhaps I should just go back to bed....

Posted by: mindful webworker - prophetically at March 28, 2017 10:34 AM (+bodw)

191 Let's Old Spice Things Up a Bit, Eh? - a limerick

A Moron who's known as neurotic-al
Desires an art thread more erotic-al
Some girls of the Navy
Buxom, curvy and wavy
Would give us a theme rather naughtical!

Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2017 10:34 AM (lHb9q)

192 Got too late to the previous thread so putting this here.

I'm well past 65 and have Medicare. Instead of the government plan I have a Medicare Advantage plan which has an optical-dental-hearing rider that costs $29 per month additional. So it is possible to get those coverages on Medicare. BTW my healthcare plans all my working life through my employer never had any dental-optical-hearing, so this is a first for me.

Posted by: geoffb5 at March 28, 2017 10:34 AM (d3wbb)

193 Was lucky enough to visit the Tate in London some years ago. Since time was limited, I decided to focus on the Turners. You're right, they are so large that seeing them in person is really the only way to really appreciate them. Came home with a poster of one of my favorites, Norham Castle Sunrise (also the poster selections were limited.)

Posted by: Miss Sippi at March 28, 2017 10:34 AM (Tcfj+)

194 A torpedo wake near the center

Posted by: Under Fire at March 28, 2017 10:34 AM (nN3W/)

195 I don't know which is worse, walking fifty miles or splitting a cord of wood.

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There's a very good reason that tool is called a "maul".

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 10:34 AM (8XRCm)

196 **noodles around.... searching for a "gitche gumie" pun

**rubs forehead**

**gives up"

Posted by: fixerupper

I know.

I feel so break up...I wanna go home...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at March 28, 2017 10:35 AM (9krrF)

197 189 I don't know which is worse, walking fifty miles or splitting a cord of wood.

Yes.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 10:33 AM (4Utw1)

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"That reminds me of a man I knew back in Illinois..."
-Abraham Lincoln

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 10:35 AM (mC1ZI)

198 Fucking Cornyn saying helf kare will not be done through reconciliation, must be bipartisan.

Lying liars who lie. These GOPe assholes want to lose in 2018 so they'll have an excuse for not getting shit done and to prevent Trump from threatening their precious establishment.

Fuck these guys. Trump needs to push for FUCKING TERM LIMITS by constitutional amendment next. That shit has like 85% support nationally and I'd like to see these crapweasels try to explain how important to national security is that they be allowed to serve in Congress until they keel over or acquire enough fuck you money from illegal land deals.

Rant over, back to lurking.

Posted by: fiatboomer at March 28, 2017 10:37 AM (oCd07)

199 I don't know which is worse, walking fifty miles or splitting a cord of wood.

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There's a very good reason that tool is called a "maul".
Posted by: fixerupper

Or that old saw (SWIDT?) about wood heating twice.
Once when you cut it......

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 10:37 AM (4Utw1)

200 Playing soccer this way is a little less ghey than usual.

http://tinyurl.com/mmqa4rx

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 28, 2017 10:37 AM (Nwg0u)

201 178 Vic, yeah that really sucks. But as you are no
doubt aware, the Enterprise was a one-off design with (was it six or
eight, can't remember) nuclear reactors in it. In order to decommission
and remove all those reactors they literally have to tear the ship
apart. Dammit.

Posted by: The Oort Cloud - No-Longer-Deplorable Source of all SMODs at March 28, 2017 10:30 AM (T1H5V)

Yeah, the last time they refueled it they had to cut hole all the way down from the flight deck to the engine room.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 10:37 AM (mpXpK)

202 **noodles around.... searching for a "gitche gumie" pun

**rubs forehead**

**gives up"

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 10:31 AM (8XRCm)

By the shores of gitchee gumee
On the shining lake-sea water
Sailed the fighting Temeraire
Going faster than she oughta.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Has Got it, Yeah Baby It's Got It at March 28, 2017 10:37 AM (hLRSq)

203 A Moron who's known as neurotic-al
Desires an art thread more erotic-al
Some girls of the Navy
Buxom, curvy and wavy
Would give us a theme rather naughtical!

Posted by: Muldoon

I must say, such naval designs
Would show how craft and nature combines
So we all then would see
Why a ship is a 'she'--
After all, it's because of her lines!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at March 28, 2017 10:37 AM (9krrF)

204 Just a schmuck being schmucky.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/261028/

Posted by: steevy at March 28, 2017 10:38 AM (r/0kC)

205 198 Fucking Cornyn saying helf kare will not be done through reconciliation, must be bipartisan.

Lying liars who lie. These GOPe assholes want to lose in 2018 so they'll have an excuse for not getting shit done and to prevent Trump from threatening their precious establishment.

Fuck these guys. Trump needs to push for FUCKING TERM LIMITS by constitutional amendment next. That shit has like 85% support nationally and I'd like to see these crapweasels try to explain how important to national security is that they be allowed to serve in Congress until they keel over or acquire enough fuck you money from illegal land deals.

Rant over, back to lurking.
Posted by: fiatboomer at March 28, 2017 10:37 AM (oCd07)

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Trump's a deal maker.

He's going to work with whomever.

Remember that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 10:38 AM (mC1ZI)

206
141,
" 'More revelations to come', he claims. He's probably

running down to Comey's office with some more bedwetting stories from

his 'friends'.

Posted by: at March 28, 2017 10:19 AM (ZFUt7)"

Think of McCain as a Republican version of Jimmy Carter. Once America rejected him he vowed to take her down if it was the last thing he could ever do.

Posted by: geoffb5 at March 28, 2017 10:38 AM (d3wbb)

207
Does he have any "friends" on the Republican side?
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party�

Not unless you consider Lindsay Graham republican.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 28, 2017 10:38 AM (ZFUt7)

208 Via Insty:

AAAAAnnnnnd here we go-

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/261035/#respond

That's right.

John "Corny" Cornyn doesn't want to settle differences with the conservatives in his party.

He wants to bring in Democrats.

John "Bought and Sold" Cornyn will now go against his voters and constituents to serve the his GOPe cronies and possibly Soros(?).

Lovely.

You voters in Texas are absolutely not doing your jobs keeping this guy in office who votes against your clear and unequivocal demands.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2017 10:39 AM (NyJwR)

209 I must say, such naval designs
Would show how craft and nature combines
So we all then would see
Why a ship is a 'she'--
After all, it's because of her lines!

Posted by: Brother Cavil

*****

Touché

Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2017 10:39 AM (lHb9q)

210 But he's alive.. it's all I care about.
Posted by: deplorable Jewells45 at March 28, 2017 10:33 AM (zRZaJ)

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I hear you, for sure. The forgetfulness thing is tough. Prayer is the way to go, for sure. And thank God you still have him, as I'm sure you do!

Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2017 10:39 AM (sBOL1)

211 I must say, such naval designs
Would show how craft and nature combines
So we all then would see
Why a ship is a 'she'--
After all, it's because of her lines!
Posted by: Brother Cavil

*golf clap

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 10:40 AM (4Utw1)

212 Yeah, I'm thinking the whole logs on the fire thing makes the most sense.

He was super intensely into me. And, now he's more tepidly into me-ish.

He got something going with someone else is the only thing that makes sense at all.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 10:22 AM (smD62)

This is a guy you have never actually met, right? Just on-line and phone calls? Maybe you should try to have a face-to-face meetup at a neutral location, like a coffee shop. Not a "date", just an interview. An opportunity for both parties to see the goods on offer, and to decide if they want to pursue further negotiations.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2017 10:40 AM (WDdjT)

213 208 You voters in Texas are absolutely not doing your jobs keeping this guy in office who votes against your clear and unequivocal demands.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2017 10:39 AM (NyJwR)

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I feel sympathy for them.

I can't get rid of Lindsey Graham.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 10:40 AM (mC1ZI)

214 That's right.

John "Corny" Cornyn doesn't want to settle differences with the conservatives in his party.

He wants to bring in Democrats.

Sorta like how they'd rather bring in Third World peasants rather than bow to the American people, no?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at March 28, 2017 10:40 AM (9krrF)

215 By the shores of gitchee gumee
On the shining lake-sea water
Sailed the fighting Temeraire
Going faster than she oughta.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Has Got it, Yeah Baby It's Got It at March 28, 2017 10:37 AM (hLRSq)

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Well done, sir. Well done indeed.

*curtseys*

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 10:40 AM (8XRCm)

216 212 Yeah, I'm thinking the whole logs on the fire thing makes the most sense.

He was super intensely into me. And, now he's more tepidly into me-ish.

He got something going with someone else is the only thing that makes sense at all.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 10:22 AM (smD62)

This is a guy you have never actually met, right? Just on-line and phone calls? Maybe you should try to have a face-to-face meetup at a neutral location, like a coffee shop. Not a "date", just an interview. An opportunity for both parties to see the goods on offer, and to decide if they want to pursue further negotiations.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2017 10:40 AM (WDdjT)

And be sure to check the teeth. That's key.

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at March 28, 2017 10:41 AM (RD7QR)

217 Redmindbluestate, Who wrote your copy of The Fighting Temeraire?

Posted by: JTB at March 28, 2017 10:27 AM

Carp. I can't recall.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 28, 2017 10:41 AM (p+Wdc)

218 You voters in Texas are absolutely not doing your jobs keeping this guy in office who votes against your clear and unequivocal demands.

I'm voting straight anti-incumbent ticket next time.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 10:41 AM (4Utw1)

219 163 Not art.

barely even decoration.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at March 28, 2017 10:25 AM (CPk0

Well, technically the masts were formerly trees.

Posted by: rickl at March 28, 2017 10:41 AM (zoehZ)

220 Despite the heavy traffic nearby on Constitution Ave., sound at the Viet Nam Memorial always seems muted. The location, the color, and the way people's faces reflect in the polished stone make it the most haunting and effective memorial I've seen.

Posted by: JTB at March 28, 2017 10:42 AM (V+03K)

221 Carp. I can't recall.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 28, 2017 10:41 AM (p+Wdc)

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You did that on porpoise, didnt you.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 10:42 AM (8XRCm)

222 Morning, horde. I have a big interview this afternoon. I've been searching for over a year so this is probably my last hope to avoid foreclosure. For those so inclined, prayers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 28, 2017 09:40 AM
~~~~~

Many prayers sent, Duke.

And remember, you're a member of the elite--the Horde--so hold your head high! You got this.

Posted by: IrishEi at March 28, 2017 10:42 AM (HiDrR)

223 207

Does he have any friends on the Republican side?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

Not unless you consider Lindsay Graham republican.

Posted by: at March 28, 2017 10:38 AM (ZFUt7)

I don't. I haven't voted for that asshole in decades.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 10:42 AM (mpXpK)

224 Well, technically the masts were formerly trees.

Posted by: rickl

******

And there probably was a cabin boy.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2017 10:43 AM (lHb9q)

225 206
141,
" 'More revelations to come', he claims. He's probably

running down to Comey's office with some more bedwetting stories from

his 'friends'.

Posted by: at March 28, 2017 10:19 AM (ZFUt7)"

Think of McCain as a Republican version of Jimmy Carter. Once America rejected him he vowed to take her down if it was the last thing he could ever do.
Posted by: geoffb5 at March 28, 2017 10:38 AM (d3wbb)
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Right along with Graham, who this morning, said of Nunes:

"The problem he's created is he's gone out on a lark by himself, sort of an Inspector Clouseau investigation here...."

McCain and Graham can't even stay neutral.

Posted by: WisRich at March 28, 2017 10:43 AM (hdpay)

226 214 That's right.

John "Corny" Cornyn doesn't want to settle differences with the conservatives in his party.

He wants to bring in Democrats.

Sorta like how they'd rather bring in Third World peasants rather than bow to the American people, no?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at March 28, 2017 10:40 AM (9krrF)

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Seriously, though. As long as there's a hint of repeal about it, Democrats are most likely not going to have anything to do with any anti-ACA efforts.

If Cornyn is planning on following this path, he's completely done with repeal in any way shape or form. He's not even going to try to hide that anymore.

When is he next up for re-election? 2020? Get to work, Texas, on finding a viable primary opponent now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 10:43 AM (mC1ZI)

227 Sarah Silverman is busy working on a new Hulu show, a sort of 'gorillas in the mist' search for discussion with people who have different politics. No really, it's going to be funny and she really, truly wants to understand the knuckle-dragging, bible-thumping, gun-toting rubes who voted for Trump or something. Also involved are Adam McKay and Will Farrel.
Where do I sign up to be a guest?!

http://ew.com/tv/2017/03/27/sarah-silverman-hulu-i-love-you-america/

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2017 10:43 AM (NOIQH)

228 I'm voting straight anti-incumbent ticket next time.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 10:41 AM (4Utw1)

Not a bad idea. I must ponder this.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2017 10:43 AM (tFWWx)

229 218 You voters in Texas are absolutely not doing your jobs keeping this guy in office who votes against your clear and unequivocal demands.

I'm voting straight anti-incumbent ticket next time.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 10:41 AM (4Utw1)

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I did that in 2016.

I felt bad for voting against Tim Scott, but I was in a mood.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 10:44 AM (mC1ZI)

230 >>That's right.

>>John "Corny" Cornyn doesn't want to settle differences with the conservatives in his party.

>>He wants to bring in Democrats.

Not really an earth shattering statement. As I've been saying for weeks, there was one shot at doing this through reconciliation and that ship has been towed by a steam tug to the boneyard.

Only other way to do it is through legislation which is why Trump said he would work with Democrats.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 10:44 AM (/tuJf)

231 An hour ago I was reading a Krauthammer article from 2012 and it references this exact painting.

spooky.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 28, 2017 10:44 AM (PqqkK)

232 227 They will find the stupidest,most inarticulate Trump supporters and anyone who isn't that,they will edit to make it appear so.

Posted by: steevy at March 28, 2017 10:45 AM (r/0kC)

233 @212

Correct...but I am wondering if it is even worth wasting my time to meet him. I mean I know there's no way to go forward without meeting him.

But, if he's losing interest already...I don't wanna waste my time.

Er @216 Check the teeth?

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 10:45 AM (smD62)

234 By the shores of glitch gumie,
Stood the EPA quite gloomy,
"We wanted this water clear for drinking!"
Said, P. D. Trump, 'WTF you thinking?!?"

Posted by: Adriane the Sea Chanty Critic ... at March 28, 2017 10:45 AM (AoK0a)

235 226 When is he next up for re-election? 2020? Get to work, Texas, on finding a viable primary opponent now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 10:43 AM (mC1ZI)

The RNCe will game the system to eliminate any viable primary opponents.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 10:46 AM (mpXpK)

236 87 Not usually sentimental about breaking up a ship, but tearing up the USS Enterprise (CV-6) hurts a bit.

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a cultural crime worthy of the Taliban.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 28, 2017 10:46 AM (PqqkK)

237 Ryan holding a news conference. Announcing the results of a meeting w/ their conference. "WE WILL REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMACARE, dangnabbit!"

Posted by: Tami at March 28, 2017 10:47 AM (Enq6K)

238 235
The RNCe will game the system to eliminate any viable primary opponents.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 10:46 AM (mpXpK)

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Just like they kept Ted Cruz out of office in favor of David Dewhurst.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 10:47 AM (mC1ZI)

239 >>Not unless you consider Lindsay Graham republican.

Graham, McCain and their Dem counterparts (I know) no longer represent their home states - the represent DC, which means they represent *their power* within DC. Their party affiliation is meaningless, they have no allies but those who assist them in maintaining their status.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2017 10:47 AM (NOIQH)

240 237 Ryan holding a news conference. Announcing the results of a meeting w/ their conference. "WE WILL REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMACARE, dangnabbit!"

Posted by: Tami at March 28, 2017 10:47 AM (Enq6K)

We'll build the goddam wall!

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 10:47 AM (0mRoj)

241 Posted by: rickl at March 28, 2017 10:41 AM (zoehZ)

Technically shmecnically. NOT ART.

This isn't rocket science, folks.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at March 28, 2017 10:48 AM (CPk08)

242 Er @216 Check the teeth?
Posted by: Tickled Pink

Just like you would before buying a horse.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 10:48 AM (4Utw1)

243 MPPPP- have you watched The Feud yet? I think fans of old Hollywood will enjoy it.

Posted by: LASue, so very deplorable at March 28, 2017 10:48 AM (CLKfs)

244 Is it time for a banning?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 10:48 AM (mpXpK)

245
Longfellow's Confession - a limerick

By the shores of Lake Gitchee-Gumee
I copied a poem off of my roomie
It turned out pretty funny
And I made a lot of money
I said, "Sure I stole it. So sue me!"

Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2017 10:49 AM (lHb9q)

246 Not usually sentimental about breaking up a ship, but tearing up the USS Enterprise (CV-6) hurts a bit.

Posted by: mrp at March 28, 2017 10:04 AM (Pqytn)

And so does tearing up CVN-65, my old ship.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 10:05 AM (mpXpK)

If my boat had fallen off the blocks in drydock and been torn apart by shipyard bubbas like they were jawas, I would have helped them carry pieces to their trucks.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 10:49 AM (8nWyX)

247 "We want to get it right....I'm not going to put a timeline on it because we want to get it right."

Cannot hear the reporter's questions...just his answers.

Posted by: Tami at March 28, 2017 10:49 AM (Enq6K)

248 137 Yeah, well, what do you expect from a Yankee fan?

*Donna throws a match on the bonfire and innocently strolls away, whistling "Take Me Out to the Ballpark*
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 28, 2017 10:16 AM (s7vJs)
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**fistbump**

Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2017 10:17 AM (sBOL1)

You baseball fanatics are so silly!

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 10:49 AM (0mRoj)

249 The RNCe will game the system to eliminate any viable primary opponents.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 10:46 AM (mpXpK)

They tried that crap with Ted Cruz, but failed miserably. So it is possible.

Posted by: The Oort Cloud - No-Longer-Deplorable Source of all SMODs at March 28, 2017 10:49 AM (T1H5V)

250 237 Ryan holding a news conference. Announcing the results of a meeting w/ their conference. "WE WILL REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMACARE, dangnabbit!"

Posted by: Tami at March 28, 2017 10:47 AM (Enq6K)

Man on Mars by 2015! We can do it!

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at March 28, 2017 10:49 AM (RD7QR)

251 Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2017 10:49 AM (lHb9q)

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I knew the master would deliver.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 10:49 AM (8XRCm)

252 @242

I mean.....is there something I am supposed to be checking for?

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 10:49 AM (smD62)

253 237 Ryan holding a news conference. Announcing the results of a meeting w/ their conference. "WE WILL REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMACARE, dangnabbit!"

Posted by: Tami at March 28, 2017 10:47 AM (Enq6K)

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Hmm...go back in time to when Ryan first started to get this repeal effort off the ground really fast.

Phase 1 only has repeal elements. Not everything, but limited to what they think the parliamentarian will accept.

Phase 2 is in Tom Price's hands, of course.

Phase 3 still only contains repeal elements, but is targeted at things that the House thinks the Senate parliamentarian won't let through with Reconciliation.

Phase 4 is "replace".

I wonder how that would have played out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 10:49 AM (mC1ZI)

254 RINO news conference on now. K. McMorris-Rogers standing there like the bought off cvnt that she is. Fuvck all of them.

Posted by: Under Fire at March 28, 2017 10:50 AM (nN3W/)

255
McCain and Graham can't even stay neutral.
Posted by: WisRich

Those two just love the mainstream media spotlight that shines on the maverick brothers.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 28, 2017 10:50 AM (IqV8l)

256 Not really an earth shattering statement. As I've been saying for weeks, there was one shot at doing this through reconciliation and that ship has been towed by a steam tug to the boneyard.

Wow ... I've got a PDF of the Constitution right here ... and it doesn't say shit about only being able to bring up a House bill once.

This must be some more of that mystical Process. Fascinating stuff.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2017 10:50 AM (tFWWx)

257 This looks like fun...

A testing company out of Ann Arbor sent me a letter asking to use my car for 1 - 2 weeks for emissions verification. They say most will be returned within 5 days.

$400, a "comparable" late model Lexus with a full tank of gas, a full tank in my car when it's returned and a "appearance enhancement treatment", which I assume is a car wash and interior cleaning.

Stored inside and only run on a dynamometer.

Sounds good to me.

Posted by: jwest at March 28, 2017 10:50 AM (Zs4uk)

258 Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 10:44 AM (/tuJf)

We'll see what happens, and I mean "see" as in "watch what they do, not what they say" because everyone of these guys throws up more words than a squid spreads ink.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Has Got it, Yeah Baby It's Got It at March 28, 2017 10:50 AM (hLRSq)

259 This isn't rocket science, folks.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In

Hey!

Posted by: Wernher Von Braun at March 28, 2017 10:50 AM (AoK0a)

260 14 Morning, horde. I have a big interview this afternoon. I've been searching for over a year so this is probably my last hope to avoid foreclosure. For those so inclined, prayers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 28, 2017 09:40 AM (kTF2Z)

Best of luck Duke! We're all pulling it for you! Wait, I mean we're behind you all the...hell, you know what I mean.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 10:51 AM (0mRoj)

261 Finally visited the wall a couple of years ago. I wasn't sure how I would react. I have two friends, one my collage roommate for two years and best friend, on it and oddly their names are less that a yard apart. It was a beautiful day, uncrowded, and in a word, serene.

I still have issues with the war, mainly with the way it, and the countries reaction to it, is portrayed today.

Posted by: Javems at March 28, 2017 10:51 AM (yOqwj)

262

Michael Steele is rotten.
He's an agent for the Left now.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 10:51 AM (4Ejxg)

263 Yeah, the last time they refueled it they had to cut hole all the way down from the flight deck to the engine room.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 10:37 AM (mpXpK)

No reason they couldn't do that again, remove all the spent fuel rods from the reactors, then seal up the reactor rooms, and turn the ship into a museum.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2017 10:51 AM (WDdjT)

264 249 The RNCe will game the system to eliminate any viable primary opponents.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 10:46 AM (mpXpK)

They tried that crap with Ted Cruz, but failed miserably. So it is possible.
Posted by: The Oort Cloud - No-Longer-Deplorable Source of all SMODs at March 28, 2017 10:49 AM (T1H5V)

===============

Then again...Dewhurst wasn't a several term incumbent.

It's not impossible. Just really hard. 4 years seems like enough time for Texas conservatives to start raising the kind of war chest necessary to knock off Cornyn.

I hear that the Koch brothers might be into that sort of thing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 10:51 AM (mC1ZI)

265 This is a guy you have never actually met, right? Just on-line and phone calls? Maybe you should try to have a face-to-face meetup at a neutral location, like a coffee shop. Not a "date", just an interview. An opportunity for both parties to see the goods on offer, and to decide if they want to pursue further negotiations.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2017 10:40 AM (WDdjT)

Oh. I didn't know that, or I'd have offered different advice. Definitely meet in person. See if the vibe is Ted Stryker or Ted Bundy.

You don't want to end up with someone like me.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2017 10:51 AM (X6fMO)

266 Muldoon, do you speak in limericks at work?

Because that would be awesome, especially when you're in surgery.

Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2017 10:52 AM (sBOL1)

267
46 The USS Constitution, USS Constellation, HMS Victory - are there any other Age of Sail wooden fighting ships still afloat?

Maybe it's been done - I don't watch movies enough to know - but I always wondered why a director of a disaster / invasion movie didn't have the Constitution coming out of dock, fully armed, her captain saying that, if they had to die, they were going down fighting.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2017 09:49 AM (X6fMO)

There's a throwaway line in World War Z (the book, not the movie) where one of the interviewees saw what he swears to be HMS Victory under full sail, leading a flotilla of refugees from the zombie hordes.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 28, 2017 10:52 AM (XWkhW)

268 252 @242

I mean.....is there something I am supposed to be checking for?
Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 10:49 AM (smD62)

Also the ankles. Could save yourself some trouble later.

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at March 28, 2017 10:52 AM (RD7QR)

269 Ryan is stuck on stupid. Still talking about tailoring legislation to accommodate reconciliation.

Screw the Senate, get a bill you want done in the House and let the Senate worry about Senate rules.

Posted by: WisRich at March 28, 2017 10:52 AM (hdpay)

270 252 @242

I mean.....is there something I am supposed to be checking for?
Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 10:49 AM (smD62)

Gold.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 10:52 AM (0mRoj)

271 Victory is not afloat,I don't believe.

Posted by: steevy at March 28, 2017 10:52 AM (r/0kC)

272 I'm voting straight anti-incumbent ticket next time.

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always vote against them in the primary. even if you like them. keep'um feared up.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 28, 2017 10:52 AM (PqqkK)

273 I mean.....is there something I am supposed to be checking for?
Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 10:49 AM (smD62)
___________

I've watched enough Forensic Files to know 3rd world country type dental work is a red flag.
If he bites, he gets a twitch... no mercy.

Posted by: IP at March 28, 2017 10:53 AM (UmSfZ)

274 254
RINO news conference on now. K. McMorris-Rogers standing there like the bought off cvnt that she is. Fuvck all of them.

Posted by: Under Fire at March 28, 2017 10:50 AM (nN3W/)

I've noticed you never have anything good to say....ever.

Posted by: Tami at March 28, 2017 10:53 AM (Enq6K)

275 263
No reason they couldn't do that again, remove all the spent fuel rods from the reactors, then seal up the reactor rooms, and turn the ship into a museum.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2017 10:51 AM (WDdjT)

=================

Sort of related.

The Yorktown in Charleston Harbor is a great museum. I saw Ted Cruz there who gave an oral history of the ships that carried the name Yorktown. It was, in my opinion, the highlight of his entire campaign. He told it extremely well.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 10:53 AM (mC1ZI)

276 Via Insty, I learn of a Wesleyan Media Project that finds that Hillary ran more personal ads (inc. attack ads) than the last 9 Presidential candidates of both parties _combined_.

At around 60% or so. Kerry and Obama are the next highest at around 15%. Trump? Around 10%.

In fact, less than 30% of the ads by this "highly accomplished" candidate were solely focused on policy.
In the last 16 years, the next lowest of policy-only ads was by McCain at just over 40%.

Thank the stars that awful bitch will never be President.

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 28, 2017 10:53 AM (ZQpd0)

277 >>We'll see what happens, and I mean "see" as in "watch what they do, not what they say" because everyone of these guys throws up more words than a squid spreads ink.

Yep. Just last week Cornyn was saying he was confident that the Senate would pass a bill if the House got their through and the two bills would go to committee for reconciliation. But the reality is it didn't and that door is closed so they have to use legislation or wait until the next budget year or keep 2017 open and not do any of the rest of Trump's agenda.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 10:54 AM (/tuJf)

278 269 Ryan is stuck on stupid. Still talking about tailoring legislation to accommodate reconciliation.

Screw the Senate, get a bill you want done in the House and let the Senate worry about Senate rules.
Posted by: WisRich at March 28, 2017 10:52 AM (hdpay)

===================

Isn't there some kind of process where the two chambers of Congress get together to make some sort of compromise between different versions of the same bill?

Wouldn't that constitute something like Regular Order?

Weird...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 10:54 AM (mC1ZI)

279 MPPPP- have you watched The Feud yet? I think fans of old Hollywood will enjoy it.

Posted by: LASue, so very deplorable at March 28, 2017 10:48 AM (CLKfs)

No. The clips I've seen of it did nothing to make me think it worthwhile (it may be, of course, but I didn't like what I saw).

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2017 10:54 AM (X6fMO)

280 The USS Constitution, USS Constellation, HMS Victory - are there any other Age of Sail wooden fighting ships still afloat?
Posted by: josephistan at March 28, 2017 09:41 AM (7HtZB)

Strictly speaking, HMS Victory isn't afloat, she's been in dry dock since 1922. She's the oldest commissioned warship, but USS Constitution is the oldest one still afloat.

So, y'know... go win the big bucks on Jeopardy now.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 10:55 AM (8nWyX)

281 Those two just love the mainstream media spotlight that shines on the maverick brothers.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 28, 2017 10:50 AM (IqV8l)

I have heard people say the most dangerous place in DC is between Chuck Schumer and a camera; McCain and Graham are not far behind in this.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Has Got it, Yeah Baby It's Got It at March 28, 2017 10:55 AM (hLRSq)

282 A ship's underside is hard wood
Gloriously wet and that's good
Those who prefer their shes bald
When they're finally keel-hauled
Might find barnacles do spoil the mood

Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2017 10:55 AM (NyJwR)

283 >>Muldoon, do you speak in limericks at work?

Because that would be awesome, especially when you're in surgery.

He has written a cardiology-themed limerick at my request! Even worked in 'dextrocardia'...

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2017 10:55 AM (NOIQH)

284
Michael Steele is rotten.
He's an agent for the Left now.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 10:51 AM (4Ejxg)

I'm half-convinced he was always a lefty plant. When he was an up-an-coming GOP star he was articulate, skilled, and presented himself quite intelligently. Once he nabbed the RNC chair, it was like flipping a switch to being an incompetent boob.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 28, 2017 10:55 AM (XWkhW)

285
I've noticed you never have anything good to say....ever.

We're living in Dark Times.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 10:55 AM (4Ejxg)

286 Enterprise was in just about every Pacific battle and it was offered to be preserved after the war,No takers.Really sad.I think Oregon scrapped the old pre Dreadnought Oregon to give the steel to the war effort.Another waste,that tiny amount of steel added nothing and a piece of history is gone.

Posted by: steevy at March 28, 2017 10:56 AM (r/0kC)

287 @265

It's sort of a long distance-ish thing.

So...I don't want to waste either of our time if he just wants to play the field.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 10:56 AM (smD62)

288 266 Muldoon, do you speak in limericks at work?

Because that would be awesome, especially when you're in surgery.

Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2017 10:52 AM (sBOL1)

There once was a surgical actor
Who clumsily lost a retractor
The patient was fine
But in airport lines
His ferrousness became a factor

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 10:56 AM (0mRoj)

289 turn the ship into a museum.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2017 10:51 AM (WDdjT)

Ask Vic how long it took and how much it cost....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2017 10:56 AM (rF0hx)

290 McMorris-Rogers ACU 75/72 - Pure RINO

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 10:56 AM (mpXpK)

291 Muldoon, do you speak in limericks at work?

*****

No, but I do have a hankering to insert a blues lyric riff into a patient's medical record:

Chief complaint: fainting

History: She woke up one morning. Felt all faint in her head. Tried to walk to the kitchen, then she fell on her head.

Du-duh-du-du-duh.

Something like that.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2017 10:56 AM (lHb9q)

292 ...and steevy snuck in while I was typing, good game, sir.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 10:56 AM (8nWyX)

293 You did that on porpoise, didnt you.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 10:42 AM

Yeah. It's a Dilbert-ism I borrow occasionally.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 28, 2017 10:56 AM (p+Wdc)

294 Just read, by coincidence, a new bio of Turner by Franny Moyle.

The painting above was recently voted the most popular British painting of all time.

Turner lived to the then-extraordinary age of 76. He died rich, reclusive & strange!

His will was a hot mess & was mostly voided after years of litigation. He left hundreds of incomplete, rough draft sketches "to the nation" that he probably would have preferred to discard, if he'd thought about it.

Posted by: mnw at March 28, 2017 10:57 AM (Q93AK)

295 OK, elevenses and tea time. May BBL.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2017 10:57 AM (X6fMO)

296 Steele believes anyone with an R after their name is a racist.
Now we have a Romney in his old slot. Great.

Posted by: Under Fire at March 28, 2017 10:58 AM (nN3W/)

297 Victory is not afloat,I don't believe.

Posted by: steevy at March 28, 2017 10:52 AM (r/0kC)

She is indeed, and worth a visit.

http://www.hms-victory.com/

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2017 10:58 AM (rF0hx)

298 287 @265

It's sort of a long distance-ish thing.

So...I don't want to waste either of our time if he just wants to play the field.
Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 10:56 AM (smD62)

I know I've been kind of flip about this but in seriousness, you have to be careful about online approaches. AOP's advice about meeting in public and checking him out is wise. Caution in online relationships is never amiss.

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at March 28, 2017 10:58 AM (RD7QR)

299 Insomniac, any news on last week's interview that I might have missed?

Posted by: Tami at March 28, 2017 10:58 AM (Enq6K)

300 $400, a "comparable" late model Lexus with a full tank of gas, a full tank in my car when it's returned and a "appearance enhancement treatment", which I assume is a car wash and interior cleaning.

Stored inside and only run on a dynamometer.

Sounds good to me.

Posted by: jwest at March 28, 2017 10:50 AM (Zs4uk)

Well, that's a novel way to obtain a getaway car for a bank heist.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2017 10:59 AM (WDdjT)

301 Oh. I didn't know that, or I'd have offered different advice. Definitely meet in person. See if the vibe is Ted Stryker or Ted Bundy.

You don't want to end up with someone like me.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2017 10:51 AM (X6fMO)

Terminal Illness ... followed by a ransom note implying a pregnancy. Definitely.

Let's see what this guy is made of.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2017 10:59 AM (tFWWx)

302 298 287 @265

It's sort of a long distance-ish thing.

So...I don't want to waste either of our time if he just wants to play the field.
Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 10:56 AM (smD62)

I know I've been kind of flip about this but in seriousness, you have to be careful about online approaches. AOP's advice about meeting in public and checking him out is wise. Caution in online relationships is never amiss.
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at March 28, 2017 10:58 AM (RD7QR)

===================

I met my wife online through Match.

We both gamed the free weekend to start the conversation and immediately moved to Facebook.

Our first date was Inception.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 10:59 AM (mC1ZI)

303 Muldoon,
Would that be done to the tune of the Joe Jeffery Group "My Pledge of Love?"

Posted by: Diogenes at March 28, 2017 10:59 AM (qt8uo)

304 Maybe it's been done - I don't watch movies enough to know - but I always wondered why a director of a disaster / invasion movie didn't have the Constitution coming out of dock, fully armed, her captain saying that, if they had to die, they were going down fighting.

There's Battleship, but that was a WWII ship. Still a stand-up-and-cheer moment, though-- all those retired/vet volunteers on that old warship, ready to kick some alien butt, in a movie with Liam Neeson and Rhianna, based on a board game that used to be a pencil-and-paper game.

It made more sense than most everything *else* in that movie, but I'll save my rantings for an actual movie thread. Or Twitter. Maybe I'll just go to Twitter.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 28, 2017 10:59 AM (u0s1P)

305 The USS Constitution, USS Constellation, HMS Victory - are there any other Age of Sail wooden fighting ships still afloat?

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i tried to figure out what was the oldest battleship still in existence. the answer surprised me.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 28, 2017 10:59 AM (PqqkK)

306 299 Insomniac, any news on last week's interview that I might have missed?
Posted by: Tami at March 28, 2017 10:58 AM (Enq6K)

I don't think so. They said they'd get back to me in about a week to let me know if they want me to come in to interview in person or to piss off. I'm anticipating the "piss off" option.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 11:00 AM (0mRoj)

307 304 There's Battleship, but that was a WWII ship. Still a stand-up-and-cheer moment, though-- all those retired/vet volunteers on that old warship, ready to kick some alien butt, in a movie with Liam Neeson and Rhianna, based on a board game that used to be a pencil-and-paper game.

It made more sense than most everything *else* in that movie, but I'll save my rantings for an actual movie thread. Or Twitter. Maybe I'll just go to Twitter.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 28, 2017 10:59 AM (u0s1P)

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I don't think we need a thread for that:

Battleship was a terrible movie.

Don't watch it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 11:00 AM (mC1ZI)

308 305
i tried to figure out what was the oldest battleship still in existence. the answer surprised me.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 28, 2017 10:59 AM (PqqkK)

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Where do I click to find out!?!?!?!?!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 11:01 AM (mC1ZI)

309 As there was talk of a job interview above, I was supposed to hear yesterday whether I got the job I interviewed for on Thursday.

No word.

I'm too much of a cynic to think there's still hope--if it was a "yes," they would have called.
(People like bearing good news, no one wants to deliver bad news.)

This sucks.

I'm going back to bed.

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 28, 2017 11:01 AM (ZQpd0)

310 It is sad. This was probably a nice painting till somebody spilled all that water on it. Now it's all blurry.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at March 28, 2017 11:01 AM (1zARK)

311 The Japanese still have Togo's flagship the Mikasa.

Posted by: steevy at March 28, 2017 11:01 AM (r/0kC)

312 I don't think we need a thread for that:

Battleship was a terrible movie.

Don't watch it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Yes it was awful, but the only reason to watch it is BB-63

Posted by: Rick in SK at March 28, 2017 11:02 AM (FZYNt)

313 Our first date was Inception.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 10:59 AM (mC1ZI)

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So.... how old is the little bugger now??

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 11:02 AM (8XRCm)

314 Brooklyn Decker offered two good reasons to watch Battleship.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 28, 2017 11:02 AM (qt8uo)

315 289
turn the ship into a museum.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2017 10:51 AM (WDdjT)

Ask Vic how long it took and how much it cost....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2017 10:56 AM (rF0hx)

The cost per se wasn't the real issue. It was all the classified material that had to be removed. But, seeing as how they will have to do that anyway their reason is BS.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 11:02 AM (mpXpK)

316 Isn't there some kind of process where the two chambers of Congress get together to make some sort of compromise between different versions of the same bill?

Wouldn't that constitute something like Regular Order?

Weird...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 10:54 AM (mC1ZI)

Three Senators in the Senate already said they wouldn't sign the current bill. Cruz, Lee, and Paul.

So unless he tailors the legislation in the beginning to accommodate their concerns, what is the point in sending legislation to the Senate.
The Dems are not going to say yes to any kind of health care bill unless it is to establish single payer. With three less Rep votes, any bill is DOA in the Senate, so what Ryan is saying makes more sense than the stupid thing he was trying to do on Friday.

Posted by: Jen at March 28, 2017 11:02 AM (yxZrv)

317 >>I don't think we need a thread for that:
Battleship was a terrible movie.

Don't watch it.

Glad AtC isn't here...

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2017 11:02 AM (NOIQH)

318 There once was a surgical actor
Who clumsily lost a retractor
The patient was fine
But in airport lines
His ferrousness became a factor
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 10:56 AM (0mRoj)
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Much applause

Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2017 11:02 AM (sBOL1)

319 309 As there was talk of a job interview above, I was supposed to hear yesterday whether I got the job I interviewed for on Thursday.

No word.

I'm too much of a cynic to think there's still hope--if it was a "yes," they would have called.
(People like bearing good news, no one wants to deliver bad news.)

This sucks.

I'm going back to bed.
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 28, 2017 11:01 AM (ZQpd0)

Sorry dude. Been there many many times over the past year. Bed's not a bad option.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 11:02 AM (0mRoj)

320 @302

That's such a sweet story. Congrats!

I'm guessing you didn't get all wishy washy on her though.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 11:02 AM (smD62)

321 I don't think so. They said they'd get back to
me in about a week to let me know if they want me to come in to
interview in person or to piss off. I'm anticipating the "piss off"
option.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 11:00 AM (0mRoj)

Think positive! We're all pulling for you.

(no pervs, not THAT kinda pulling!)

Posted by: Tami at March 28, 2017 11:03 AM (Enq6K)

322 Battleship was a terrible movie.

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Terrible movie.

But entertaining for mindless fun. I liked it.

Now.... about those burritoes.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 11:03 AM (8XRCm)

323 i tried to figure out what was the oldest battleship still in existence. the answer surprised me.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 28, 2017 10:59 AM (PqqkK)

I believe it is Mikasa, from the battle of Tsushima. Oldest dreadnought type would be Texas.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Has Got it, Yeah Baby It's Got It at March 28, 2017 11:03 AM (hLRSq)

324 Battleship has a video game too. Activision, 2012.

It was shite.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 28, 2017 11:03 AM (B/TAe)

325 314 Brooklyn Decker offered two good reasons to watch Battleship.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 28, 2017 11:02 AM (qt8uo)

Heh. The movie was pretty meh, but the USS Missouri scene was all sorts of badass.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 11:04 AM (0mRoj)

326 302 298 287 @265

It's sort of a long distance-ish thing.

So...I don't want to waste either of our time if he just wants to play the field.
Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 10:56 AM (smD62)

I know I've been kind of flip about this but in seriousness, you have to be careful about online approaches. AOP's advice about meeting in public and checking him out is wise. Caution in online relationships is never amiss.
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at March 28, 2017 10:58 AM (RD7QR)

===================

I met my wife online through Match.

We both gamed the free weekend to start the conversation and immediately moved to Facebook.

Our first date was Inception.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 10:59 AM (mC1ZI)

Yes, my wife and I chatted on an email list (remember those days?) before we met. Still, we met in public and courted a bit before committing. (Which sort of raises the question of why she married me anyway, but that's a separate issue.)

The point is that you could be chatting with mutant sex-beast for all you know. Meeting in a safe place is just prudent.

(As to the question of whether I'm a mutant sex beast...I leave that as an exercise for the student.)

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at March 28, 2017 11:04 AM (RD7QR)

327 >>So unless he tailors the legislation in the beginning to accommodate their concerns, what is the point in sending legislation to the Senate.

Because the Senate is allowed to offer amendments to the bill and then it goes to conference. Tailoring the bill was more about Senate rules for reconciliation to even happen and prevent a filibuster.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 11:05 AM (/tuJf)

328 311 The Japanese still have Togo's flagship the Mikasa.

---

bingo

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 28, 2017 11:05 AM (PqqkK)

329 he USS Missouri scene was all sorts of badass.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 11:04 AM (0mRoj)

yeah when I was on The USS Wisconsin 3 months ago I wanted to take her out for a spin and blow some things up but there were no old guys around to help me. So i went across the street to a bar and got drunk

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2017 11:05 AM (KlI/a)

330 I don't think we need a thread for that:

Battleship was a terrible movie.

Don't watch it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 11:00 AM (mC1ZI)

I LOVED that movie. Seriously. Almost as retarded as Assassin's Creed. But it had this ship with whacking big guns in it.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at March 28, 2017 11:05 AM (CPk08)

331 316
Three Senators in the Senate already said they wouldn't sign the current bill. Cruz, Lee, and Paul.

So unless he tailors the legislation in the beginning to accommodate their concerns, what is the point in sending legislation to the Senate.
The Dems are not going to say yes to any kind of health care bill unless it is to establish single payer. With three less Rep votes, any bill is DOA in the Senate, so what Ryan is saying makes more sense than the stupid thing he was trying to do on Friday.
Posted by: Jen at March 28, 2017 11:02 AM (yxZrv)

====================

Umm...the Senate doesn't have to take it as is and vote up or down. They can add their own amendments and change whatever language.

It's Ryan's job to get legislation through and send it to the Senate. That's all he can do, and all he should worry about. Differences of opinion will arise between the two chambers, which is why there are two chambers.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 11:05 AM (mC1ZI)

332 Something like that.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2017 10:56 AM (lHb9q)
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I heard that in my head exactly as you intended it.

If we ever had a thread where everyone had to post in limericks, it would be Muldoon and Brother Cavil pretty much alone, with occasional forays by others such as Insomniac.

I would be able to come up with one, probably lame, and then would have to go back to bed for the rest of the day because it would wear me out.

Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2017 11:05 AM (sBOL1)

333 >>Heh. The movie was pretty meh, but the USS Missouri scene was all sorts of badass.

Another badass in that movie: Col. Gregory D. Gadson

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2017 11:06 AM (NOIQH)

334 Well, that's a novel way to obtain a getaway car for a bank heist.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2017 10:59 AM (WDdjT)

They wouldn't need to go to all that trouble. I've never taken the little key fob out of the car since I've had it. All they have to do is push the "start" button.

Posted by: jwest at March 28, 2017 11:06 AM (Zs4uk)

335 Heh. The movie was pretty meh, but the USS Missouri scene was all sorts of badass.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 11:04 AM (0mRoj)

----

Yeah. Awesome.

Ever notice that the aliens all looked like James Hetfiled.???

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 11:06 AM (8XRCm)

336 Interesting article at Breitbart about the Dems providing "welcome baskets" to incoming refugees being brought into the state of Nebraska by a Lutheran Church group and some other refugee importation group.

The welcome baskets included a voter registration packet.

Supposedly it was caught and removed before the baskets were disbursed, but the Dem who did this doesn't understand what all the fuss is about.

What is more incredulous is that Nebraska, like a lot of states , requires zero proof of citizenship when registering to vote. And only find voter fraud if someone states on say, a jury duty slip that they are not a citizen, after their name was picked up for jury duty from voter rolls.

Posted by: Jen at March 28, 2017 11:06 AM (yxZrv)

337 From wiki, Museum ships, by age

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_museum_ships

Posted by: josephistan at March 28, 2017 11:07 AM (7HtZB)

338
Yeah. Awesome.

Ever notice that the aliens all looked like James Hetfiled.???
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 11:06 AM (8XRCm)

Sad but true.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 11:07 AM (0mRoj)

339 Sounds good to me.
Posted by: jwest

READ THE FINE PRINT CAREFULLY !!!!

Unless there is a specified date as to the return of a car (and the date has passed), legally, it isn't stolen.

Posted by: Adriane the Sea Chanty Critic ... at March 28, 2017 11:07 AM (AoK0a)

340 Battleship should have won an Oscar for best use of AC/DC in a movie.

Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2017 11:07 AM (0+824)

341
Oh.... and setting the scenes of firing up the mothballed Missouri to AC/DCs Thunderstruck....

.... pure entertainment genius.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 11:08 AM (8XRCm)

342 Think positive! We're all pulling for you.

(no pervs, not THAT kinda pulling!)
Posted by: Tami at March 28, 2017 11:03 AM (Enq6K)

It would take his mind off the job situation for a few minutes.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2017 11:08 AM (tFWWx)

343 I don't think we need a thread for that:

Battleship was a terrible movie.

Don't watch it.

Naah. It was pretty bad, but it's gloriously ridiculous in its badness. I mean, look. The casting, as I've mentioned. The fact that it's based on a board game. WTF. (Okay, yeah, Clue is awesome, but a) that's a fluke and 2) Clue is an atypical board game.)

The opening part, where Our Hero decides he needs to get a burrito to impress a chick. The complete lack of information or known motivation of the aliens. The references to The Art of War.

It's not just "a bad movie," it has texture and depth and nuance and WTFery that make it fascinating to pick apart. It's insane, is what I'm saying.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 28, 2017 11:08 AM (u0s1P)

344 328 311 The Japanese still have Togo's flagship the Mikasa.

---

bingo

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looks like it's now landlocked. like they buried it in gravel up to the waterline

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 28, 2017 11:08 AM (PqqkK)

345 Sad but true.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 11:07 AM (0mRoj)

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*snort*

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 11:08 AM (8XRCm)

346 340 Battleship should have won an Oscar for best use of AC/DC in a movie.
Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2017 11:07 AM (0+824)

That's actually a pretty good point.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at March 28, 2017 11:08 AM (CPk08)

347 Tesla autopilot car hits Phoenix police motorcycle

Could be worse. Could'av hit a van full of Nuns

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2017 11:08 AM (KlI/a)

348 any movie that uses Leonard Cohen's Halleluia should get an automatic Razzie nomination.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 28, 2017 11:09 AM (B/TAe)

349 looks like it's now landlocked. like they buried it in gravel up to the waterline
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 28, 2017 11:08 AM (PqqkK)
_____________

Well, we sank damn near everything they had, this was the only way they could be sure...

Posted by: IP at March 28, 2017 11:10 AM (UmSfZ)

350 Wow the Boston Globe printed a letter from the former head of Greenpeace saying Global Warming is a fabrication and the warmists have hijacked the environmental movement.

The comments are hilarious.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 28, 2017 11:10 AM (le7jz)

351 yeah when I was on The USS Wisconsin 3 months ago I wanted to take her out for a spin and blow some things up but there were no old guys around to help me. So i went across the street to a bar and got drunk
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2017 11:05 AM (KlI/a)

Life just ain't fair.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 11:10 AM (0mRoj)

352 NGU, ever been to Battleship Cove in Fall River MA?

Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 11:10 AM (8nWyX)

353 It's sort of a long distance-ish thing.

So...I don't want to waste either of our time if he just wants to play the field.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 10:56 AM (smD62)

Well, if you contain this "long distance relationship", all you are doing is wasting time. Are you looking at other possible partners while this is going on? Have your neutral meet-up, and get to know the guy, even superficially. If, after that, you can see yourself on his arm, coming out of a theater, and if he can visualize himself with you on his arm, and both parties are comfortable with the idea, then pursue a relationship.

If not, no harm, no foul, throw your lure in the pond again.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2017 11:10 AM (WDdjT)

354 Without at least one Democrat on the committee they can't vote the bill out of committee so it is dead.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 11:10 AM (mpXpK)

355 coming late to the thread, Prayers for the interview Duke.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 28, 2017 11:10 AM (Jen0I)

356 347 Tesla autopilot car hits Phoenix police motorcycle

Could be worse. Could'av hit a van full of Nuns
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2017 11:08 AM (KlI/a)

Cop nuns. Hey, that gives me an idea for a movie script...

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 11:11 AM (0mRoj)

357 It would take his mind off the job situation for a few minutes.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2017 11:08 AM (tFWWx)

Minutes? Scheehyeah, right.

Posted by: Tami at March 28, 2017 11:11 AM (Enq6K)

358 If not, no harm, no foul, throw your lure in the pond again.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2017 11:10 AM (WDdjT)

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 11:11 AM (0mRoj)

359 Texas (the battleship)is in bad shape and they are going to need money to keep her alive.

Posted by: steevy at March 28, 2017 11:12 AM (r/0kC)

360 357 It would take his mind off the job situation for a few minutes.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2017 11:08 AM (tFWWx)

Minutes? Scheehyeah, right.
Posted by: Tami at March 28, 2017 11:11 AM (Enq6K)

Oh, like you know.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 11:12 AM (0mRoj)

361 any movie that uses Leonard Cohen's Halleluia should get an automatic Razzie nomination.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 28, 2017 11:09 AM (B/TAe)

Counterpoint: Lord of War.

They use the Jeff Buckley version though.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 11:12 AM (8nWyX)

362 "Tesla autopilot car hits Phoenix police motorcycle."

I know that this is something that gets Insty all excited, but autopilot in cars sounds like such a bad idea. Yes, I know 'removing the human factor' and you remove a lot of accidents, but who is programming the autopilot/AI?

Yep - humans. You never remove the human factor.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Has Got it, Yeah Baby It's Got It at March 28, 2017 11:13 AM (hLRSq)

363 Enterprise was in just about every Pacific battle and it was offered to be preserved after the war,No takers.Really sad.I think Oregon scrapped the old pre Dreadnought Oregon to give the steel to the war effort.Another waste,that tiny amount of steel added nothing and a piece of history is gone.
Posted by: steevy
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There were many ships that should have been preserved as memorials, which were scrapped. USS England.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2017 11:13 AM (ZO497)

364 Oh, yeah, forgot what I meant to post before I got distracted: is that G.I. Joe episode on YouTube? That sounds hilarious.

and, more importantly:

GOOD LUCK DUKE

GO JOE

Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 28, 2017 11:13 AM (u0s1P)

365 @353

Yes, I have kept an eye out, answered messages from other suitors etc.

I guess we'll see how this phone call tonight goes. If he seems bored, distracted, or uninterested, I'll have my answer.

Thanks!

Posted by: Tickled Pink at March 28, 2017 11:13 AM (smD62)

366 Umm...the Senate doesn't have to take it as is and vote up or down. They can add their own amendments and change whatever language.

It's Ryan's job to get legislation through and send it to the Senate. That's all he can do, and all he should worry about. Differences of opinion will arise between the two chambers, which is why there are two chambers.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 11:05 AM (mC1ZI)

Yes, I am aware of that. But we do not appear to have normal functioning legislative chambers. We have hard line splits between individuals that are exacerbated by the current state the country is in after 8 years of Obama and 8 years of moderate/liberal lite of George Bush. Whatever the Senate does to revamp the legislation to where Cruz, et al will vote for it, will make it intolerable to the moderate/liberal factions of the Rep. in the house.

I would think it would make more sense to at least have the Senate conservatives, who are more hard line at this point than the moderates, at least on board with legislation coming their way.

Posted by: Jen at March 28, 2017 11:14 AM (yxZrv)

367 Special for ATC

http://preview.alturl.com/huo7w

Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2017 11:14 AM (0+824)

368 That doesn't look like a Chinese Celestial. That doesn't look like a Chinese Celestial at all.

Posted by: Scott M at March 28, 2017 11:15 AM (AdBfq)

369 Someone needs to turn a Moron Meetup into Match Game or something.

Hilarity may ensure.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 28, 2017 11:15 AM (u0s1P)

370 358 If not, no harm, no foul, throw your lure in the pond again.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2017 11:10 AM (WDdjT)

Oh ... you should DEFINITELY throw that lure out there. Over and over again. In the pond. In the lake. River, stream ... moderately deep puddle, fuck it - what I'm saying here is if you detect the slightest hint of moisture, release the lure.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2017 11:15 AM (tFWWx)

371 As there was talk of a job interview above, I was
supposed to hear yesterday whether I got the job I interviewed for on
Thursday.

No word.

I'm too much of a cynic to think there's still hope--if it was a "yes," they would have called.

(People like bearing good news, no one wants to deliver bad news.)

This sucks.

I'm going back to bed.

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 28, 2017 11:01 AM (ZQpd0)

Sorry dude. Been there many many times over the past year. Bed's not a bad option.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor
============

Just got the call.

Yeah. It's no.

Fuck me.

4 months into this; countless applications; 4 interviews and . . . .

Fuck me.

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 28, 2017 11:16 AM (ZQpd0)

372 367 Special for ATC

http://preview.alturl.com/huo7w

Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2017 11:14 AM (0+824)

[Runs away from blaster as quickly as chubby legs will go]

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at March 28, 2017 11:16 AM (RD7QR)

373 NGU, ever been to Battleship Cove in Fall River MA?
Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 11:10 AM (8nWyX)

No

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2017 11:16 AM (KlI/a)

374 Posted by: Patty Hearst

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Patty's sister runs a religious center in the tiny town of Ridgway CO. She is a restorationist; that is, she believes the millennium may be facilitated by helping the Jews to return to Israel. Accordingly, she is very pro-Israel and has a store selling beautiful Jewish religious objects.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 28, 2017 11:16 AM (Nwg0u)

375 Someone needs to turn a Moron Meetup into Match Game or something.

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Id be happy to see a Midwest Moron Meet up.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 11:16 AM (8XRCm)

376 Vic, not sure if you're still around. I saw on rhe emt that you were talking about the cost of new glasses. My gf has bought 2 pair now through zenni optical. Totally on line, all you need is prescription and distance between your pupils. She got 2 pair for less than $30 each.

And her eyesight is bad, which is how I snagged her...

Posted by: Toddler at March 28, 2017 11:16 AM (lc06+)

377 369 Someone needs to turn a Moron Meetup into Match Game or something.

Hilarity may ensure.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 28, 2017 11:15 AM (u0s1P)

This sounds like a terrible idea and only pain and suffering can come of it.

I'm in.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 28, 2017 11:16 AM (KUaJL)

378 >>I would think it would make more sense to at least have the Senate conservatives, who are more hard line at this point than the moderates, at least on board with legislation coming their way.

Both sides appear pretty dug in. Any serious concession to one side seems to cancel out support from the other.

I don't see much of anything getting done until the law collapses further.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 11:16 AM (/tuJf)

379 Oh, yeah, forgot what I meant to post before I got distracted: is that G.I. Joe episode on YouTube? That sounds hilarious.

Sink the Montana!

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x536g78

Posted by: josephistan at March 28, 2017 11:17 AM (7HtZB)

380 369 Someone needs to turn a Moron Meetup into Match Game or something.

Hilarity may ensure.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 28, 2017 11:15 AM (u0s1P)

If by "hilarity" you mean "gunplay."

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at March 28, 2017 11:17 AM (RD7QR)

381 Heard Larry Kudlow explain what happened with healthcare bill this am, had not heard exactly what had happened put so succinctly.

That stuff that Ryan said you couldn't do under reconciliation, was the stuff that held of the FC, and Ryan didn't bother to ask the Senate parliamentarian whether it could have gone under reconciliation, and she said it could have.

Sounds like Ryan really hasn't gotten this whole legislating thing down yet.

Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2017 11:17 AM (0+824)

382 "Tesla autopilot car hits Phoenix police motorcycle."

I know that this is something that gets Insty all excited, but autopilot in cars sounds like such a bad idea. Yes, I know 'removing the human factor' and you remove a lot of accidents, but who is programming the autopilot/AI?

Yep - humans. You never remove the human factor.
Posted by: *Mikey
---------------

I note that an auto-drive Uber car was rolled over in a collision a day or two ago.

The fault was because "The other driver failed to yield to the Uber car".

Uh, yeah, that happens all of the time, thus it pays to take nothing for granted at 'Yield' signs. It's called 'judgement'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2017 11:17 AM (ZO497)

383 369 Someone needs to turn a Moron Meetup into Match Game or something.

Hilarity may ensure.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 28, 2017 11:15 AM (u0s1P)

That could be literally oodles of fun.

Posted by: josephistan at March 28, 2017 11:18 AM (7HtZB)

384 Just got the call.

Yeah. It's no.

Fuck me.

4 months into this; countless applications; 4 interviews and . . . .

Fuck me.
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 28, 2017 11:16 AM (ZQpd0)

No, my virtual acquaintance, whom I do not know, but feel genuinely bad for:

FUCK THEM. hard.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at March 28, 2017 11:18 AM (CPk08)

385
338
Yeah. Awesome.

Ever notice that the aliens all looked like James Hetfiled.???
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 11:06 AM (8XRCm)

Sad but true.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 11:07 AM (0mRoj)

*Groan*

Anyone else jumps on this bandwagon I'm liable to commit battery.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 28, 2017 11:19 AM (XWkhW)

386 Id be happy to see a Midwest Moron Meet up.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 11:16 AM (8XRCm)

Where in the Midwest? I'm *shifty eyes* right near the Illinois/Wisconsin border.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 28, 2017 11:19 AM (u0s1P)

387 Someone needs to turn a Moron Meetup into Match Game or something.

Hilarity may ensure.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 28, 2017 11:15 AM (u0s1P)

This sounds like a terrible idea and only pain and suffering can come of it.

I'm in.
Posted by: joe
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Hey, I don't mind sharing some photos!

Posted by: Carlos Danger at March 28, 2017 11:19 AM (ZO497)

388 If by "hilarity" you mean "gunplay."
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at March 28, 2017 11:17 AM (RD7QR)

Or colorful projectile vomiting. Either way, sounds cool.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at March 28, 2017 11:19 AM (CPk08)

389 This sounds like a terrible idea and only pain and suffering can come of it.
I'm in.

Midwest?..

Posted by: IP at March 28, 2017 11:20 AM (UmSfZ)

390 NGU, ever been to Battleship Cove in Fall River MA?
Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 11:10 AM (8nWyX)

No
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2017 11:16 AM (KlI/a)

Worth a visit if you're ever out that way. WWII BB, WWII SS, Vietnam DD, and I think there's a PT boat too.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 11:20 AM (8nWyX)

391 Anyone else jumps on this bandwagon I'm liable to commit battery.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 28, 2017 11:19 AM (XWkhW)

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So..... we turn the page, then?

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 11:20 AM (8XRCm)

392 >>
Wow the Boston Globe printed a letter from the former head of Greenpeace
saying Global Warming is a fabrication and the warmists have hijacked
the environmental movement.

LOVE it!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2017 11:20 AM (NOIQH)

393
Someone needs to turn a Moron Meetup into Match Game or something.

I said "Bippy!"

Posted by: Brett Somers at March 28, 2017 11:20 AM (IqV8l)

394 Anyone else jumps on this bandwagon I'm liable to commit battery.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 28, 2017 11:19 AM (XWkhW)

Who do you you think you are to tell us what we can and can not post ? Some kind of master of puppets or something ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2017 11:21 AM (tFWWx)

395 390 NGU, ever been to Battleship Cove in Fall River MA?
Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 11:10 AM (8nWyX)

No
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2017 11:16 AM (KlI/a)

Worth a visit if you're ever out that way. WWII BB, WWII SS, Vietnam DD, and I think there's a PT boat too.
Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 11:20 AM (8nWyX)

I think there's a U-Boat there too.

Posted by: josephistan at March 28, 2017 11:22 AM (7HtZB)

396 385

338

Yeah. Awesome.

Ever notice that the aliens all looked like James Hetfiled.???

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 11:06 AM (8XRCm)

Sad but true.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 11:07 AM (0mRoj)

*Groan*

Anyone else jumps on this bandwagon I'm liable to commit battery.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 28, 2017 11:19 AM (XWkhW)

I agree, we must Seek and Destroy if there is even One more Metallica mention.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at March 28, 2017 11:22 AM (7N6ox)

397 393
Someone needs to turn a Moron Meetup into Match Game or something.

I said "Bippy!"
Posted by: Brett Somers at March 28, 2017 11:20 AM (IqV8l)

If somebody doesn't answer "In the butt!" I will be disappointed.

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at March 28, 2017 11:22 AM (RD7QR)

398
There once was a poll named McCain
One look you could tell was quite vain
He couldn't be clearer
When cameras were nearer
His dislike for Don Trump he'd not feign

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 28, 2017 11:22 AM (ZFUt7)

399 "Cop nuns. Hey, that gives me an idea for a movie script..."

In respect for a piece of weirdness from my college days, they have to carry Uzis.

Posted by: Robert Crawford at March 28, 2017 11:23 AM (xhEbi)

400 366 Yes, I am aware of that. But we do not appear to have normal functioning legislative chambers. We have hard line splits between individuals that are exacerbated by the current state the country is in after 8 years of Obama and 8 years of moderate/liberal lite of George Bush. Whatever the Senate does to revamp the legislation to where Cruz, et al will vote for it, will make it intolerable to the moderate/liberal factions of the Rep. in the house.

I would think it would make more sense to at least have the Senate conservatives, who are more hard line at this point than the moderates, at least on board with legislation coming their way.
Posted by: Jen at March 28, 2017 11:14 AM (yxZrv)

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No better way to jump start that than with some major legislation that requires work. methinks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 11:23 AM (mC1ZI)

401 *Groan*

Anyone else jumps on this bandwagon I'm liable to commit battery.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 28, 2017 11:19 AM (XWkhW)

Go for it.

Battleship was a fucking awesome movie for all the wrong reasons. I loved it. Laughed my head off.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at March 28, 2017 11:23 AM (CPk08)

402
You guys arent putting Fuel on ITC's Metallica fire.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 11:23 AM (8XRCm)

403 Yes, I know 'removing the human factor' and you remove a lot of accidents, but who is programming the autopilot/AI?

Kieth. From Punjabi.

Same guy who is running the Office Depot Corporate call center desk that I got a return call from.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 11:24 AM (4Utw1)

404 Go for it.

Battleship was a fucking awesome movie for all the wrong reasons. I loved it. Laughed my head off.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at March 28, 2017 11:23 AM (CPk0

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He's referring to Metallica puns.... say your sorry or you'll be the unforgiven.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 11:24 AM (8XRCm)

405 Sorry to hear that, RO. I've been at this for 14 months now. Can't tell you how many times I've heard some variation of "over qualified." Read too old.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 28, 2017 11:24 AM (kTF2Z)

406 The fault was because "The other driver failed to yield to the Uber car".

A big question is, if the car is threatened, how does it decide how to escape? If you swerve to avoid stuff falling out of a trailer (for example), but hit a motorcyclist, the law takes into account the split-second nature of that event. The car, though-- does it prioritize? That has to programmed in. (My favorite version of this scenario is the car targeting cyclists as a vigilante, but that's me being me.)

And then there's insurance, and pedestrians, or my actual favorite, the self-driving cars at the 4-way stop where none went first. (I *think* that was an actual event, but based on the deference/politeness/safety factors, I can total see it happening.)

Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 28, 2017 11:25 AM (u0s1P)

407 He's referring to Metallica puns.... say your sorry or you'll be the unforgiven.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 11:24 AM (8XRCm)

Megadeath to Metallica puns!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2017 11:25 AM (WDdjT)

408 OK, so I'm an idiot.

Sorta hardwired that way.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at March 28, 2017 11:25 AM (CPk08)

409 381 Sounds like Ryan really hasn't gotten this whole legislating thing down yet.

Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2017 11:17 AM (0+824)

According to Senate rules he has to have at least one Democrat to get it out of committee in the Senate. He doesn't have that.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 11:25 AM (mpXpK)

410 Battleship was a fucking awesome movie for all the wrong reasons. I loved it. Laughed my head off.

Drop anchor at full speed. Nose plant & turn on a dime.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 11:26 AM (4Utw1)

411 You baseball fanatics are so silly!

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 10:49 AM (0mRoj)

We have fun!

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 28, 2017 11:26 AM (s7vJs)

412 Am I remembering right that planes are being actively crashed because pilots have been taken so far out of the routine operations that they don't know what to do when X isn't Y and the computer can't help?

Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 28, 2017 11:26 AM (/f1mm)

413 Sounds like Ryan really hasn't gotten this whole legislating thing down yet.
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Freedumb Caucus to the rescue!

Posted by: RioBravo at March 28, 2017 11:27 AM (SsblQ)

414 When Turner was a young man, he used to go on sketching trips & stayed with family friends. He always left a "hostess gift" .,, usually a watercolor he had displayed at the Royal Academy.

Pretty nice hostess gift!

On the rare occasions that Turner oil paintings come on the market... Steve Wynn paid $43 million for one recently.

Posted by: mnw at March 28, 2017 11:27 AM (Q93AK)

415 Worth a visit if you're ever out that way. WWII BB, WWII SS, Vietnam DD, and I think there's a PT boat too.
Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 11:20 AM (8nWyX)

I think there's a U-Boat there too.
Posted by: josephistan at March 28, 2017 11:22 AM (7HtZB)

Thanks. I will put it on the list.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2017 11:27 AM (KlI/a)

416
Lulu had a steam boat, steam boat had a bell
Lulu went to heaven, steam boat went to
Hell-oo operator give me number nine
if you disconnect me I'll kick you in
behind the refigirator there's a piece of glass,
if you don't watch out you'll fall and cut your ass-kkk me no more questions
tell me no more lies,
that's what Lulu said just before she died...

Posted by: Chelsey Clinton at March 28, 2017 11:27 AM (HSmrB)

417 Drop anchor at full speed. Nose plant & turn on a dime.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 11:26 AM (4Utw1)

-----

Sun Tzu wrote all about it.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 11:27 AM (8XRCm)

418 >>Worth a visit if you're ever out that way. WWII BB, WWII SS, Vietnam DD, and I think there's a PT boat too.

The old naval base in Portsmouth, RI was the site of the PT boat training center during WWI and Goat Island in Newport was the home for torpedo development dating back to the mid-1800s. Gould Island, in the middle of Narragansett Bay was the expanded home of the torpedo base and to this day they are still picking ordinance out of the Bay from testing during WWII.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 11:27 AM (/tuJf)

419 Planes Trains and Automobiles

Is on. Now there is a real classic

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2017 11:28 AM (KlI/a)

420 WWII for the PT not WWI obviously.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 11:29 AM (/tuJf)

421
How did the "Georgia" in Russia get its name? Or wherever it is.

Is it named after George Washington?

George of the Jungle?

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 11:29 AM (4Ejxg)

422 Freedumb Caucus to the rescue!

Posted by: RioBravo at March 28, 2017 11:27 AM (SsblQ)

Someone asked earlier and I don't think it was answered, but who created the "Freedom Caucus" title? Was it (D)s or (R)s?

Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 28, 2017 11:29 AM (/f1mm)

423 Cop nuns. Hey, that gives me an idea for a movie script...

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 11:11 AM (0mRoj)

They'd sit criminals down and make them diagram sentences until they talked.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 28, 2017 11:30 AM (s7vJs)

424
Goat Island in Newport

Did anyone else read this as Goatse Island?

I blame all of you reprobates.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 28, 2017 11:30 AM (XWkhW)

425 My boss just went home sick. I swear, it seems like if I call off sick, she's sick the next day or very soon after.....

Early day for me. Of course an early day for me is 4:00PM vice 4:30PM. But I take it where I can get it.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at March 28, 2017 11:30 AM (vg8iE)

426 >>(My favorite version of this scenario is the car targeting cyclists as a vigilante, but that's me being me.) Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 28, 2017 11:25 AM (u0s1P)

Actually, that's you being excellent. Concur wholly.

Posted by: General Zod at March 28, 2017 11:31 AM (Bdeb0)

427 415 Worth a visit if you're ever out that way. WWII BB, WWII SS, Vietnam DD, and I think there's a PT boat too.
Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 11:20 AM (8nWyX)

I think there's a U-Boat there too.
Posted by: josephistan at March 28, 2017 11:22 AM (7HtZB)

Thanks. I will put it on the list.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2017 11:27 AM (KlI/a)

My mistake, no U-boat (there's one in Chicago). But there is a Soviet era missile corvette, ex- East German navy

Posted by: josephistan at March 28, 2017 11:31 AM (7HtZB)

428 They'd sit criminals down and make them diagram sentences until they talked.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 28, 2017 11:30 AM

Until the criminals talked, not the sentences. Sr. Mary Margaret would give me a sharp rap on the knuckles with a ruler for writing that.

Yes, I had a rap sheet.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 28, 2017 11:31 AM (s7vJs)

429 Rachel Dolezals memoir was released last week, and in it, she discusses not only how she knew about blackness at an early age because of her grandmothers National Geographic magazines, but also that she was treated like an indentured servant by her parents and was too black for her black husband.

Weasel Zippers

Now that's some prime craziness right there. Oh and I learned about titties from my Grandmothers National Geographics like most boys my age back then

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2017 11:31 AM (KlI/a)

430 4 months into this; countless applications; 4 interviews and . . . .

Fuck me.
Posted by: RoyalOil

I still say the various un-, under-, and mis-employed members of the Horde need to pool their abilities and come up with their own business plan. Surely we have among our number what it takes...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at March 28, 2017 11:31 AM (9krrF)

431 G'day, all.

Just killed a yuuuuge spider. Yay, me.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 28, 2017 11:31 AM (PY9jH)

432 >>The car, though-- does it prioritize? That has to programmed in. (My
favorite version of this scenario is the car targeting cyclists as a
vigilante, but that's me being me.)

Here's my suspicion: to eliminate a lot of these scenarios - essentially, the need to program responses to unpredictable human behavior - they will work with lawmakers to insist on 100% driverless cars. It's a lot easier to program a car to behave around similarly programmed vehicles vs. humans. And they'll claim that it is for our own safety that they're relieving us of the ability to control our own cars.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2017 11:32 AM (NOIQH)

433 If we're talking movies...

I saw 'Solace" last night.

The script was supposedly the one they were going to use as a sequel to "Seven".

I guess it got rewritten a bit but you can still see the bones of "Seven" beneath it's plot mechanics.

Lots of great actors doing very good acting, but it went straight to blu-ray and on-demand streaming...

So, how is it?

Well, it's one of those psychic helps out police to capture a serial killer dealios.

I suppose if we match parts to "Seven"

Jeffery Dean Morgan is Morgan Freeman.
Abbie Cornish is Brad Pitt
Colin Farrell is John Doe
Antony Hopkins is the psychic.

I'm not going to discuss plot very much cuz it would get spoilery very quickly.

I'll just say that 'Solace" while very good at cranking up tension in various scenes, it doesn't reach the levels of suffocating dread that "Seven" achieved mostly do to the nature of the killings and motivation.

This movie wants to establish ambivalence about the killer and his killings and in that. i'm sure it's political in that way, but fortunately there really isn't an author comes from behind the scenes to give you a lecture moment. it's well enough written and filmed that while the context is clear, we aren't beat over the heads with it.

So, great acting, strong if not horrifying plot, well and efficiently directed, Hollywood leaning politics

why not a theatrical release?

Two reasons I think:

1) The horror comes mostly from the disturbing and sometimes incoherent visions of the psychic.
But, they're not real in the sense of terrible things actually happening at that moment.

It's a neat conceit in some scenes but they go to that well too often.

2) There's a scene -and you'll know it when you see it- that starts out conforming to all the SJW-posturing of Hollywood but then severely undercuts it in a very much non-politically-correct way.

It may be this scene alone which got it cut from general release. Who knows?

in and of itself, "Solace" is a fine if not great movie.

It would've made a lousy follow up to the dreadfest of "Seven"-

but in and of itself it's quite good.

Check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2017 11:32 AM (NyJwR)

434 Am I remembering right that planes are being actively crashed because pilots have been taken so far out of the routine operations that they don't know what to do when X isn't Y and the computer can't help?
Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 28, 2017 11:26 AM (/f1mm)

Pilots' certifications haven't really changed, they still have to know how to fly a plane, navigate, follow emergency procedures, stuff like that. There are cases where the autopilot input is bad, but there are also cases where the pilots are completely disoriented and just letting the autopilot take over is the right choice. Automation or not, some pilots in some situations will just CFIT to double down on a mistake.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 11:32 AM (8nWyX)

435 Durbin speaking on the Gorsuch nomination. I wonder if he'll reveal his voting position.

Posted by: WisRich at March 28, 2017 11:33 AM (hdpay)

436 Here's my suspicion: to eliminate a lot of these scenarios - essentially, the need to program responses to unpredictable human behavior - they will work with lawmakers to insist on 100% driverless cars. It's a lot easier to program a car to behave around similarly programmed vehicles vs. humans. And they'll claim that it is for our own safety that they're relieving us of the ability to control our own cars.

And from there, it's a short jump to "all the cars must be controlled from a central computer in Washington DC".

Posted by: Ian S. at March 28, 2017 11:33 AM (3J/LN)

437
431 G'day, all.

Just killed a yuuuuge spider. Yay, me.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 28, 2017 11:31 AM (PY9jH)

Just a little decoy. Trust me.

Posted by: Face Sized Spider in Jane's Closet at March 28, 2017 11:34 AM (XWkhW)

438 And they'll claim that it is for our own safety that they're relieving us of the ability to control our own cars.[I/]

I'm sure that's part of the Plan, yeah. Also, if they were networked together? That'd be even more efficient, right?

Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 28, 2017 11:34 AM (u0s1P)

439 How did the "Georgia" in Russia get its name? Or wherever it is.

Trump carried the state of Georgia. THERE'S your Russian connection! How much plainer can it be???11??

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 11:35 AM (4Utw1)

440 I'm already super sleepy today and it keeps raining!

Zzzzz

Anyway, I have a review of a "guy's guy" time-travle adventure the Morons might like.

Link in nic

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at March 28, 2017 11:35 AM (Om16U)

441

Posted by: random ~~lurker~~ commenter at March 28, 2017 11:35 AM (WF5ei)

442 to this day they are still picking ordinance out of the Bay from testing during WWII.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 11:27 AM (/tuJf)

They wouldn't have to if the Mk14 would have exploded once in a while :-/

Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 11:35 AM (8nWyX)

443 Now that's some prime craziness right there. Oh and I learned about titties from my Grandmothers National Geographics like most boys my age back then

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2017 11:31 AM (KlI/a)

Somebody needs to hack Talcum X's Twitter account, and have him slag sweet Rachel as a "cultural appropriator". Hilarity could ensue.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2017 11:35 AM (WDdjT)

444 NGU, speaking of teh cray-cray, busband's BFF (and the widower of my dear BFF), who remarried right after my friend died, just got screwed over by his "bride."

She announced she wanted a divorce about a week ago (hit him out of the blue), and before he knew what happened, cleaned out their joint accounts and ran up his credit cards.

I never, ever liked her. She always seemed nuts to me. Husband and his BFF have known her since elementary school.

Next time I warn my husband someone is bat-shit crazy, I believe he'll listen.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 28, 2017 11:35 AM (PY9jH)

445 Killed a spider? Why?
I relocated two to the outside last night before IPspouse saw them.
Just can't seem to convince her that they aren't actively hunting her.

Posted by: IP at March 28, 2017 11:36 AM (UmSfZ)

446 Wife just got back from the eye doctor. Doesn't need new glasses this time.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 11:36 AM (mpXpK)

447 Denzel Washington quote: f you don't read the newspaper you're uninformed. If you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 28, 2017 11:37 AM (Nwg0u)

448 421
How did the "Georgia" in Russia get its name? Or wherever it is.

Is it named after George Washington?

George of the Jungle?
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 11:29 AM (4Ejxg)

It's bastard Persian of a different word, according to Wiki (yeah, I know): gorgan, "Land of the Wolves".

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at March 28, 2017 11:37 AM (RD7QR)

449 444 She announced she wanted a divorce about a week ago
(hit him out of the blue), and before he knew what happened, cleaned out
their joint accounts and ran up his credit cards.

I never, ever liked her. She always seemed nuts to me. Husband and his BFF have known her since elementary school.

Next time I warn my husband someone is bat-shit crazy, I believe he'll listen.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 28, 2017 11:35 AM (PY9jH)

Did she leave the State? If not he needs to get his lawyer on her ASAP.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 11:37 AM (mpXpK)

450 Did she leave the State? If not he needs to get his lawyer on her ASAP.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 11:37 AM (mpXpK)

I have no idea.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 28, 2017 11:38 AM (PY9jH)

451 Did she leave the State? If not he needs to get his lawyer on her ASAP.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 11:37 AM (mpXpK)

Or an outlaw biker gang.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2017 11:39 AM (WDdjT)

452 Sorry! Into the Barrel I will go. But first...

I saw 'Solace" last night.

The script was supposedly the one they were going to use as a sequel to "Seven".

I love stuff like that. That'd be a good (I'm actually serious here) movie/TV thread- stuff that started out part of one series but became totally different, and stuff that got fit/cramed/forced into an existing franchise.

Like how Die Hard is based on a book, which itself was a sequel to an earlier book (which was made into a Frank Sinatra movie). Die Hard 2 is based on a different book by a different author. Die Hard 3 was originally a Lethal Weapon script. Die Hard 4 is based on a Wired article.

Stuff like that. You know?

Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 28, 2017 11:39 AM (u0s1P)

453 >>They wouldn't have to if the Mk14 would have exploded once in a while :-/

Practice makes perfect!

Navy still owns part of the island where they still do testing for undersea warfare. No torpedo launches though.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 11:40 AM (/tuJf)

454 NGU, speaking of teh cray-cray, busband's BFF (and the widower of my dear BFF), who remarried right after my friend died, just got screwed over by his "bride."

She announced she wanted a divorce about a week ago (hit him out of the blue), and before he knew what happened, cleaned out their joint accounts and ran up his credit cards.

I never, ever liked her. She always seemed nuts to me. Husband and his BFF have known her since elementary school.

Next time I warn my husband someone is bat-shit crazy, I believe he'll listen.

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Evil bat-shit is the new normal.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 28, 2017 11:40 AM (Nwg0u)

455 >>And from there, it's a short jump to "all the cars must be controlled from a central computer in Washington DC".

You just hear the pitch: "It'll be so easy when there's a traffic problem, we'll just update the system to re-route X number of cars. And when there's flooding or trees fallen across the road, we can easily update the program to not use that road...." Aaaand the lil fascist in office who's obsessed with controlling people's soda consumption will smile with delight at the thought of controlling his city's/state's traffic, his/her mind considering all the possibilities --- keeping people off the roads during a snowstorm, or stopping those stupid tea party people from getting to the rally; so many possibilities!!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2017 11:40 AM (NOIQH)

456 Also, husband's BFF's grown son and daughter couldn't stand her either.

She certainly wasn't a beauty by any stretch. And her crazy personality was the polar opposite of his late wife, who was one of the sweetest, kindest people I've ever known.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 28, 2017 11:42 AM (PY9jH)

457 How did the "Georgia" in Russia get its name? Or wherever it is.

Is it named after George Washington?

George of the Jungle?
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 11:29 AM (4Ejxg)

It's bastard Persian of a different word, according to Wiki (yeah, I know): gorgan, "Land of the Wolves".

-
So same derivation as Washington DC.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 28, 2017 11:42 AM (Nwg0u)

458 so many possibilities!!

State Security Agent - "Get in the car, you've been chosen to go camping!"

Automated car then proceeds to Stalag 1121-2

Posted by: IP at March 28, 2017 11:42 AM (UmSfZ)

459
Speaking of Bad Movies.... I sorely disappointed in Hacksaw Ridge.

Dont get me wrong.... the story of what he did is awesome and awe inspiring..... but....

... the combat footage is horrible.... machine gun headshots.... almost cartoonish.... and who the hell cast Vince Vaughn as a combat DI.???

Possibly the worst acting Ive EVER seen in a war movie. Terrible.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 11:43 AM (8XRCm)

460 Automation or not, some pilots in some situations will just CFIT to double down on a mistake.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 11:32 AM (8nWyX)

I thought I remembered a high-profile one where a tube had frozen up and the pilots all decided the best course of action was to crash the plane. I ask because I really see us headed that way with cars. Toyota had billion dollar lawsuits against it because people didn't know how to put an automatic in neutral when the engine was revving.*

* Although it turns out that, while there were some floor mats that had been installed wrong, the real problem was "pedal misapplication" by the users.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 28, 2017 11:43 AM (/f1mm)

461 And from there, it's a short jump to "all the cars must be controlled from a central computer in Washington DC".

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That's silly. The computer will be in Utah. The agency will be managed by the egg sandwich guy.

Posted by: Undocumented at March 28, 2017 11:43 AM (SsblQ)

462
So same derivation as Washington DC.

Heh.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 11:43 AM (4Ejxg)

463 I'm not dead yet!

Think I'll go for a walk.

I feel happy! I feel happy!

Posted by: The Thread at March 28, 2017 11:43 AM (kTF2Z)

464
NGU, ever been to Battleship Cove in Fall River MA?

Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 11:10 AM (8nWyX)

No

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2017 11:16 AM

Heh. Went there as a wee lad. Somewhere there's a picture of a very tiny RMBS stuffed into the muzzle of one of the 16" guns. It appears they've elevated the guns to prevent that sort of thing since then. LOL Taking the godchild's twin brother there this Spring. He's psyched about this.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 28, 2017 11:43 AM (p+Wdc)

465 Am I remembering right that planes are being actively crashed because pilots have been taken so far out of the routine operations that they don't know what to do when X isn't Y and the computer can't help?
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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I would not be too surprised.

Auto mechanics are unable to diagnose any problem these days without prompting from the ECM(s) on board the cars.

From 250 miles away, I diagnosed the source of a battery charging problem in my wife's car, which had made TWO trips to the dealer, with no resolution. I was furious, as it had left my wife stranded two times.

I called the dealership and asked specifically what they had done, and not done.

I looked through the service bulletins and found an EXACT description of the problem.

They had not updated ECM software which was known to cause this problem.

The service manager was a young woman, to whom I read the riot act and demanded compensation for the 'services' which they had previously charged (including, of course, a new battery).

Poor woman was fairly wordless, having no explanation except the failure of her service department.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2017 11:44 AM (ZO497)

466 John Nathan Turner ruined Dr. Who. Plus, he was a poofter.

Posted by: Hooch at March 28, 2017 11:44 AM (vRcUp)

467 Welp, Durbin is no on Gorsuch.

They're are going to filibuster.

Your move Mitch and Vichy Rino's.

Posted by: WisRich at March 28, 2017 11:44 AM (hdpay)

468 Rachel "Clinically Insane" Dolezal is now claiming her former *real* black husband left her because she was TOO black.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at March 28, 2017 11:45 AM (vg8iE)

469 It appears they've elevated the guns to prevent that sort of thing since then. LOL Taking the godchild's twin brother there this Spring. He's psyched about this.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 28, 2017 11:43 AM (p+Wdc)
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Take a step-ladder and stuff him in. You'll be his hero forever.

Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2017 11:45 AM (sBOL1)

470 I think Paul Johnson mentioned in _Creators_ that the color in Turner's works have faded, so we don't see even the original grandeur they had.

"Many of the pigments Turner used such as cochineal Carmine and the
Chrome Yellow shades were known to fade in his lifetime. He used natural
Indigo but this has faded dramatically, leaving behind grey or red
skies having originally been mixed with black or vermilion."

From a link I can't post because stupid commenting system thinks long links are less annoying than tinyurl.

Posted by: goodluckduck at March 28, 2017 11:45 AM (yqvys)

471 Your move Mitch and Vichy Rino's.

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Gentlemen.... remove your nuclear code cards please, and turn your arming keys simultaneously on my mark.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 11:46 AM (8XRCm)

472 Remember... Remember when the filibuster was the worst thing ever? Remember? Remember?

That was cool.

Posted by: The Chris Farley Show at March 28, 2017 11:46 AM (u0s1P)

473
They're are going to filibuster.

Of course. And they should.

This is what an opposition party looks like.
Not like the Shits who gave obama everything he wanted.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 11:46 AM (4Ejxg)

474 Rachel Dolezals memoir was released last week, and in it, she discusses not only how she knew about blackness at an early age because of her grandmothers National Geographic magazines,

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Oh, shit! I may be black, too!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 28, 2017 11:46 AM (Nwg0u)

475 That's silly. The computer will be in Utah. The agency will be managed by the egg sandwich guy.

I get the impression he's exactly the kind of guy who would pop a 4-hour boner at the concept of being able to micromanage people on that scale, yes.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 28, 2017 11:46 AM (3J/LN)

476 472 Remember... Remember when the filibuster was the worst thing ever? Remember? Remember?

That was cool.
Posted by: The Chris Farley Show at March 28, 2017 11:46 AM (u0s1P)

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McConnell should save the Union from such an undemocratic means of obstruction, then.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 11:46 AM (mC1ZI)

477 So what happens to centralized traffic control when the controlling computer oh gets zapped by a freak electrical storm, blown to bits by a tornado, soaked when the levee breaks, or that protected 300 year old oak drops into the building?

And there is no back-up because the budget could only afford one super system. Methinks 'oopppsss' will not cover the resulting gridlock chaos.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 28, 2017 11:46 AM (n7RTy)

478 Welp, Durbin is no on Gorsuch.

They're are going to filibuster.

Your move Mitch and Vichy Rino's.

Posted by: WisRich at March 28, 2017 11:44 AM (hdpay)

Durbin puts the "dick" in Dick. What a POS.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 28, 2017 11:47 AM (PY9jH)

479 467 Welp, Durbin is no on Gorsuch.

They're are going to filibuster.

Your move Mitch and Vichy Rino's.

Posted by: WisRich at March 28, 2017 11:44 AM (hdpay)

Bugger that. Kill the filibuster and stick needles in your Ruth Bader Ginsburg dolls.

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at March 28, 2017 11:47 AM (RD7QR)

480 Feel-Good Story of the Day

3 masked intruders break into home, meet homeowner's son with AR-15 instead

http://tinyurl.com/kl6fuor

Posted by: kbdabear at March 28, 2017 11:48 AM (AOrEZ)

481 473
They're are going to filibuster.

Of course. And they should.

This is what an opposition party looks like.
Not like the Shits who gave obama everything he wanted.
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 11:46 AM (4Ejxg)

=================

I didn't think they'd do it.

I really didn't. It's tactical and strategic suicide.

I swear, McConnell is going to nuke the filibuster, and then RBG is going to drop dead while Breyer will resign in sadness.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 11:48 AM (mC1ZI)

482 >>This is what an opposition party looks like.
Not like the Shits who gave obama everything he wanted.

They didn't. Where do you think Pen and Phone came from?

This afternoon Trump is going to be signing legislation to roll back Obama's climate change bullshit that he did under EOs because he couldn't get stuff through Congress.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 11:48 AM (/tuJf)

483 I thought I remembered a high-profile one where a tube had frozen up and the pilots all decided the best course of action was to crash the plane.
Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 28, 2017 11:43 AM (/f1mm)

You might have Air France 447 in mind.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 11:48 AM (8nWyX)

484 Durbin puts the "dick" in Dick. What a POS.

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Might I suggest you refer to him as "Icky Dick"

Posted by: Zombie Richard Nixon at March 28, 2017 11:48 AM (8XRCm)

485 I'm fine with the filibuster.

But it needs to BE a filibuster. None of this "we're filibustering! Yays!" and then everyone goes to dinner because there's a symbolic filibuster.

Talk, motherf*ckers.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 28, 2017 11:48 AM (/f1mm)

486 Bus full of nuns? Could be worse than that: a bus full of PREGNANT nuns!

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 28, 2017 11:49 AM (cZ3Ws)

487 481
I didn't think they'd do it.

I really didn't. It's tactical and strategic suicide.

I swear, McConnell is going to nuke the filibuster, and then RBG is going to drop dead while Breyer will resign in sadness.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 11:48 AM (mC1ZI)

==================

And it's all at the service of making their activist base happy.

How scared are Democrats of losing their main voters if they're going to ensure that the next SCOTUS pick gets through with 51 votes?

Who thinks that Democrats will do anything to help Trump's agenda in any fashion?

Democrats are terrified of losing their base. So terrified that they're shooting themselves in the foot on purpose and advertising the fact as an act of moral courage.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 11:49 AM (mC1ZI)

488 They had not updated ECM software which was known to cause this problem.

The service manager was a young woman, to whom I read the riot act and demanded compensation for the 'services' which they had previously charged (including, of course, a new battery).

Poor woman was fairly wordless, having no explanation except the failure of her service department.
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Once upon a time, in the 1970's, my Dad had a Cadillac Fleetwood that had the prototype of ABS breaking. In fact, it was a secret prototype that wasn't listed, since it was formerly the vehicle of an executive. Dad liked luxury cars.

I learned that when fancy bells and whistles break, it costs a lot. Now, it's even more. So I tend to purchase vehicles without cameras, without bluetooth, without "connnectivity" and without GPS. So when they break, they are somewhat less costly to fix.

Posted by: shibumi at March 28, 2017 11:49 AM (FkAXz)

489 Time to invoke the ~~nuclear~~ Reid option.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 28, 2017 11:50 AM (kTF2Z)

490 So what happens to centralized traffic control when the controlling computer oh gets zapped by a freak electrical storm, blown to bits by a tornado, soaked when the levee breaks, or that protected 300 year old oak drops into the building?

The backup system will be just sufficient to keep the Federal Government and its employees travelling in style and comfort.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 28, 2017 11:50 AM (3J/LN)

491

Jackstraw is right. Republicans only gave obama 99% of what he wanted.

obama would ask for 125% of what he wanted, and the Republican Shits would only give him 99%.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 11:50 AM (4Ejxg)

492 482 They didn't. Where do you think Pen and Phone came from?

This afternoon Trump is going to be signing legislation to roll back Obama's climate change bullshit that he did under EOs because he couldn't get stuff through Congress.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 11:48 AM (/tuJf)

=================

I remember Republicans passing Card Check and Cap and Trade legislation, too.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 11:50 AM (mC1ZI)

493 468 Rachel "Clinically Insane" Dolezal is now claiming her former *real* black husband left her because she was TOO black.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at March 28, 2017 11:45 AM (vg8iE)

Crazy knows no color.

Posted by: josephistan at March 28, 2017 11:51 AM (7HtZB)

494 Rachel "Clinically Insane" Dolezal is now claiming her former *real* black husband left her because she was TOO black.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at March 28, 2017 11:45 AM (vg8iE)

I can absolutely see that.

How'd you like to be married to a cartoon version of a White Woman or Asian Woman or Hispanic Woman or Middle Eastern Woman or whatever ethnicity you are 24/7?

It would be terrifically tiring if nothing else dealing with the shenanigans of Whitey McMayonnaise Blanche Whiterson-

getting you to dance the Hokey-Pokey and eat jello sales at every meal.

I totally get it.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2017 11:51 AM (NyJwR)

495
The only things obama wrote EO's for was stuff that even Democrats wouldn't vote for.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 11:51 AM (4Ejxg)

496 Morning all.. So Comey and Rogers refused to testify today .... The plot thickens....

Posted by: the Skipper at March 28, 2017 11:51 AM (O2RFr)

497 a bus full of PREGNANT nuns!
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"Nuns run bald through Vatican halls, pregnant, pleadin' immaculate conception"

Posted by: Undocumented at March 28, 2017 11:51 AM (SsblQ)

498 496 Morning all.. So Comey and Rogers refused to testify today .... The plot thickens....
Posted by: the Skipper at March 28, 2017 11:51 AM (O2RFr)

And, as Koskinen and Holder proved, nothing will be done to coerce them.

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at March 28, 2017 11:52 AM (RD7QR)

499 From a link I can't post because stupid commenting system thinks long links are less annoying than tinyurl.

Posted by: goodluckduck at March 28, 2017 11:45 AM (yqvys)

There is no problem with tinyurl here. You are doing something wrong. Or your hardware is.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2017 11:53 AM (WDdjT)

500 what I'm saying here is if you detect the slightest hint of moisture, release the lure.

Words to live by.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 28, 2017 11:53 AM (X6fMO)

501
I didn't think they'd do it.

I really didn't. It's tactical and strategic suicide.

I swear, McConnell is going to nuke the filibuster, and then RBG is going to drop dead while Breyer will resign in sadness.
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So... it's all good?

Posted by: shibumi at March 28, 2017 11:53 AM (FkAXz)

502 "Fighting ships seem to have hearts and minds, at least the romanticized version of them that lives in the hearts of the men who fought on them. "

Scoff all you wish.... they do....

Posted by: Don Q. USN, Ret. at March 28, 2017 11:53 AM (NgKpN)

503 And there is no back-up because the budget could only afford one super
system. Methinks 'oopppsss' will not cover the resulting gridlock chaos.
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Our brilliant school district did that with central controls of HVAC and clocks for 20+ schools. Claimed to be high-tech (and even I knew that was ridiculous) and will save the taxpayers money (even more ridiculous)! Nothing ever worked and nobody knew what time it was inside a school (ours went by the principal's watch) and the temperatures in the classrooms were unhealthy.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 28, 2017 11:53 AM (MIKMs)

504 sales = salads

Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2017 11:54 AM (NyJwR)

505 it's a short jump to "all the cars must be controlled from a central computer in Washington DC".

-
I'm sorry, Dave. You don't need to drive through Dairy Queen.

- Smart Car 2000

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 28, 2017 11:54 AM (Nwg0u)

506 *NERD ALERT*

New Spider-man trailer dropped today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU9f_APO4qU

Warning: shows too much.

Posted by: Max Power at March 28, 2017 11:54 AM (QCc6B)

507 501 So... it's all good?
Posted by: shibumi at March 28, 2017 11:53 AM (FkAXz)

==================

No, but Gorsuch will be on SCOTUS, and Democrats just laid the groundwork for someone like Pryor replacing RBG.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 11:54 AM (mC1ZI)

508 Morning all.. So Comey and Rogers refused to testify today

Comey needs to be told to show up and testify or his office & desk shit will be boxed up and mailed to him.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 11:54 AM (4Utw1)

509 >>Republicans only gave obama 99% of what he wanted.

It's really not true. Trump has been signing all kinds of EOs lately rolling back the EOs that Obama signed specifically because he couldn't get stuff through Congress during his second term. Obama complained about it and then announced that he was going to the Pen and Phone.

The problem with that route is anything done under and EO can also be rolled back under EOs.

Liberals have become a lot more militant starting mostly under Reid and Republicans have tried to cling to the way things always worked but that appears to be changing. If they filibuster Gorsuch then the Republicans have no choice but to go nuclear.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 11:54 AM (/tuJf)

510 For instance, Bluebell requested a Lucian Freud/Yoko Ono marathon.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2017 10:03 AM

Despite a few peccadilloes, such as an aversion to The Pinstripes, bluebell is one of the most respected members of The Horde.

Posted by: Transglactic Yoko Ono Appreciation Society, AoSHQ Colony at March 28, 2017 11:54 AM (DMUuz)

511 The car, though-- does it prioritize? That has to programmed in. (My favorite version of this scenario is the car targeting cyclists as a vigilante, but that's me being me.)

This prioritization *is* a documented thing for self-driving cars. I believe Google has said that theirs are programmed to sacrifice themselves / their passengers if necessary to avoid killing other people.

IOW, good luck getting them to drive through a crowd of antifa, even though about 20 states are working on making that explicitly legal.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 28, 2017 11:55 AM (3J/LN)

512 So Comey and Rogers refused to testify today

-----

So.... were the subpoena'd or not??

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 11:55 AM (8XRCm)

513 509 Liberals have become a lot more militant starting mostly under Reid and Republicans have tried to cling to the way things always worked but that appears to be changing. If they filibuster Gorsuch then the Republicans have no choice but to go nuclear.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 11:54 AM (/tuJf)

====================

On SCOTUS.

I kind of wish they'd do it with legislation, too.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 11:56 AM (mC1ZI)

514 488 I learned that when fancy bells and whistles break,
it costs a lot. Now, it's even more. So I tend to purchase vehicles
without cameras, without bluetooth, without "connnectivity" and without
GPS. So when they break, they are somewhat less costly to fix.

Posted by: shibumi at March 28, 2017 11:49 AM (FkAXz)

My wife's new Toyota came with GPS installed. It isn't worth a shit. She uses her old Garmin that I bought. (Back when they were $300.)

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 11:56 AM (mpXpK)

515 From a link I can't post because stupid commenting system thinks long links are less annoying than tinyurl.

Posted by: goodluckduck at March 28, 2017 11:45 AM (yqvys)

There is no problem with tinyurl here. You are doing something wrong. Or your hardware is.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Use bitly instead. Tinyurl shit the bed for me too.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 11:56 AM (4Utw1)

516 So.... were the subpoena'd or not??

Probably not, but I don't know... It was supposed to be behind closed doors...

Posted by: the Skipper at March 28, 2017 11:56 AM (O2RFr)

517 Take a step-ladder and stuff him in. You'll be his hero forever.

Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2017 11:45 AM

LOL! When I say "elevated" I mean about 45 degrees. The muzzles are at least 30 feet above the deck. I'd need a lot more than a stepladder.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 28, 2017 11:57 AM (p+Wdc)

518 New Spider-man trailer dropped today:

Warning: shows too much.
Posted by: Max Power

You mean like Spider-dong?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 28, 2017 11:57 AM (GgzGa)

519 491 obama would ask for 125% of what he wanted, and the Republican Shits would only give him 99%.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 11:50 AM (4Ejxg)

If I recall correctly they actually did give him more than he asked for on the budget.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 11:57 AM (mpXpK)

520 Scoff all you wish.... they do....

Posted by: Don Q. USN, Ret. at March 28, 2017 11:53 AM (NgKpN)

I am not sure if there were too many tears when the USS Saipan, LHA-2 was dispatched to the depths as an incubator for coral.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at March 28, 2017 11:57 AM (7N6ox)

521 This prioritization *is* a documented thing for self-driving cars. I believe Google has said that theirs are programmed to sacrifice themselves / their passengers if necessary to avoid killing other people.

Fuck you Google. I'll make that determination myself.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 11:58 AM (4Utw1)

522 3 masked intruders break into home, meet homeowner's son with AR-15 instead

http://tinyurl.com/kl6fuor
Posted by: kbdabear
-----------

They were good boys, trying to turn their lives around.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2017 11:58 AM (NBHj5)

523 Comey needs to be told to show up and testify or his office & desk shit will be boxed up and mailed to him.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 11:54 AM (4Utw1)

Yeah, that would be Comey, who could not find that Hillary had any ill intent and thus did not break the law...

Yet somehow testified to congress that he KNEW the Russian's had tried to hack or influence the Election.

Posted by: Don Q. going hmmmmmm at March 28, 2017 11:58 AM (NgKpN)

524 This prioritization *is* a documented thing for self-driving cars. I believe Google has said that theirs are programmed to sacrifice themselves / their passengers if necessary to avoid killing other people.

Have they? Huh. Well, hey guess what. *If* I ever have an autonomous vehicle that I ride in, it had better prioritize my safety over everything else ever. Hopefully it'll have armor and a cowcatcher too, so everyone knows I'm serious.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 28, 2017 11:58 AM (u0s1P)

525 >>I kind of wish they'd do it with legislation, too.

They may have to. Democrats aren't going to do anything to work with Trump or their base will revolt.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 11:58 AM (/tuJf)

526 How did the "Georgia" in Russia get its name? Or wherever it is.
---------------------------
Given that its patron saint is St. George and its flag is full of St. George crosses, I'd guess from....St. George.

It's an independent country and not in Russia anymore.
Well, except for the provinces that Putin nabbed a decade or so ago.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 28, 2017 11:59 AM (hCoZK)

527
Rachel "Clinically Insane" Dolezal is now claiming her former *real* black husband left her because she was TOO black. Posted by: bicentennialguy at March 28, 2017 11:45 AM (vg8iE)

Duh, the guy thought he married a white woman.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 28, 2017 11:59 AM (lKyWE)

528 their base will revolt.

And they are pretty revolting...

Posted by: the Skipper at March 28, 2017 11:59 AM (O2RFr)

529
No, but Gorsuch will be on SCOTUS, and Democrats just laid the groundwork for someone like Pryor replacing RBG.
---

Seems like Pryor is pretty far right, so would putting him on the Court be bad? I honestly don't know anything about him.

Generally speaking, the GOPe acts like abused wives and the Democrats are the abusive husband.

Are we coming to the point where the GOPe goes all "Burning Bed" on the Democrats? I so, would that be a bad thing?

Would not mind if President Herr Trump encouraged the latter scenario.

Posted by: shibumi at March 28, 2017 11:59 AM (FkAXz)

530 525 >>I kind of wish they'd do it with legislation, too.

They may have to. Democrats aren't going to do anything to work with Trump or their base will revolt.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 11:58 AM (/tuJf)

================

Then all of the talk about reconciliation will just be a silly memory, and we'll have to get Senators voting on actual legislation to mean something again. Instead of the "well, I voted for cloture but against the bill" nonsense.

It would be clarifying at the very least.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 12:00 PM (mC1ZI)

531 IOW, good luck getting them to drive through a crowd of antifa, even though about 20 states are working on making that explicitly legal.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 28, 2017 11:55 AM (3J/LN)

With swords on the hubcaps? Because you have to have swords on the hub caps.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2017 12:00 PM (WDdjT)

532 Yeah, that would be Comey, who could not find that Hillary had any ill intent and thus did not break the law...

Yet somehow testified to congress that he KNEW the Russian's had tried to hack or influence the Election.
Posted by: Don Q.

But who now refuses to put up.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 12:00 PM (4Utw1)

533 528 their base will revolt.

And they are pretty revolting...

History of the World, Part I:

"Sire, the peasants are revolting!"
"You said it-- they stink on ice."

Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 28, 2017 12:01 PM (u0s1P)

534 Welp, Durbin is no on Gorsuch.

They're are going to filibuster.

Your move Mitch and Vichy Rino's.

IOW, Gorsuch is out.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2017 12:01 PM (X6fMO)

535 >>I'm sorry, Dave. You don't need to drive through Dairy Queen.

- Smart Car 2000

You kid, but do you recall Michelle Obama's brilliant idea for smart shopping carts that would lecture shoppers if they put bad food/not enough healthy food in their cart?!? Not kidding.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2017 12:01 PM (NOIQH)

536 Could I interest anyone in a pregnant ~~giraffe~~ gnu?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 28, 2017 12:01 PM (B+qrE)

537 Gurgan/Jurjan Is classical Hyrcania, east side of the Caspian. I don't think Georgia ( West Caucasia) has anything to do with it. in classical times they called it Iberia.

Wiki is full of crap.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 28, 2017 12:01 PM (B/TAe)

538
Warning: shows too much.
Posted by: Max Power

You mean like Spider-dong?
Posted by: weft cut-loop

Spider dong
Spider dong
Always pops out of that Spider thong

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 28, 2017 12:02 PM (IqV8l)

539 >>527 Rachel "Clinically Insane" Dolezal

Every time I see something about her, I think about SNL's Eddie Murphy going "undercover in whiteface" to explore white privilege getting a loan at the bank. Good stuff.

Posted by: General Zod at March 28, 2017 12:02 PM (Bdeb0)

540 529 Seems like Pryor is pretty far right, so would putting him on the Court be bad? I honestly don't know anything about him.

Generally speaking, the GOPe acts like abused wives and the Democrats are the abusive husband.

Are we coming to the point where the GOPe goes all "Burning Bed" on the Democrats? I so, would that be a bad thing?

Would not mind if President Herr Trump encouraged the latter scenario.
Posted by: shibumi at March 28, 2017 11:59 AM (FkAXz)

====================

I just remember Orin Hatch breaking with comity himself to tear into Democrats at the beginning of this Congress.

Lindsey Graham has talked up nuking the filibuster (with a grand 4 years left in his current term, no less) for Gorsuch.

That's one advantage of having your squishy side insist on being deferential to the president for cabinet/SCOTUS picks. When you've got a president who's nominating individuals far to the right of these senators, the senators' first inclination is to say yes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 12:02 PM (mC1ZI)

541 Use bitly instead. Tinyurl shit the bed for me too.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 11:56 AM (4Utw1)

Works for me (links back here):

http://preview.tinyurl.com/m8f5db5

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2017 12:02 PM (WDdjT)

542 IOW, good luck getting them to drive through a crowd of antifa, even though about 20 states are working on making that explicitly legal.

Run 'em down.

Posted by: blogfather (via twitter) at March 28, 2017 12:02 PM (u0s1P)

543 522 3 masked intruders break into home, meet homeowner's son with AR-15 instead

http://tinyurl.com/kl6fuor
Posted by: kbdabear
-----------

They were good boys, trying to turn their lives around.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2017 11:58 AM (NBHj5)

And..... a dollar says either Gang Members, or illegals... or BOTH...

Posted by: Don Q. going hmmmmmm at March 28, 2017 12:03 PM (NgKpN)

544 Fun fact! Each barrel of a 16"/50 naval rifle on a US battleship weighs more than a space shuttle orbiter.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 12:03 PM (8nWyX)

545 No, but Gorsuch will be on SCOTUS, and Democrats just laid the groundwork for someone like Pryor replacing RBG.
-------

There are not 50 Republican Senators who would vote for Pryor for a "conservative" seat let alone flipping a "Liberal" seat.

Let's dispel ourselves of this foolish notion.

Posted by: WisRich at March 28, 2017 12:03 PM (hdpay)

546 So I got to witness a minor miracle today. We had a patient who needed an unusual medicine we don't keep in stock and which would be difficult to get on short notice. The patient needed it right away. I was running through a mental list of whom I might be able to call and see if they had even a little bit I could borrow.

We had a small bottle on the shelf. Exactly enough four the patients need, no more, no less. There's no record of anyone ordering it. It is in fact the medicine in question; we tested it out of sheer disbelief. This is the first patient who has needed it in many years (med was recently made)

So that happened. This patient has some special insurance kicking in from above, apparently.

Posted by: Locarno at March 28, 2017 12:03 PM (mK8lf)

547
"Sire, the peasants are revolting!"
"You said it-- they stink on ice."
Posted by: Lance McCormick
-----------

"In the summer because of the heat and high humidity, you could literally smell the tourists coming into the Capitol. " - Harry Reid

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2017 12:04 PM (ZO497)

548 Lance McCormick: ...my actual favorite, the self-driving cars at the 4-way stop where none went first....

John Prine: The Accident

Posted by: mindful webworker - accidentally at March 28, 2017 12:04 PM (+bodw)

549 537 Gurgan/Jurjan Is classical Hyrcania, east side of the Caspian. I don't think Georgia ( West Caucasia) has anything to do with it. in classical times they called it Iberia.

Wiki is full of crap.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 28, 2017 12:01 PM (B/TAe)

Wouldn't be the first time, and apparently that etymology is controversial anyway.

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at March 28, 2017 12:04 PM (RD7QR)

550 With swords on the hubcaps? Because you have to have swords on the hub caps.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2017 12:00 PM

You bloody Canucks have no appreciation of history. Since time immemorial, it's been scythes! Scythes!

Posted by: The chariots at March 28, 2017 12:04 PM (DMUuz)

551 Spider dong
Spider dong
Always pops out of that Spider thong
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 28, 2017 12:02 PM (IqV8l)

Does it get past the web..
Yes Mary Jane, does give head...

Posted by: Don Q. going hmmmmmm at March 28, 2017 12:04 PM (NgKpN)

552 >>IOW, good luck getting them to drive through a crowd of antifa, even
though about 20 states are working on making that explicitly legal.

Hell, I can see the police having the system shutdown all cars in the riot zone --- for safety!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2017 12:05 PM (NOIQH)

553 Gurgan/Jurjan Is classical Hyrcania, east side of the Caspian. I don't think Georgia ( West Caucasia) has anything to do with it. in classical times they called it Iberia.

We were just in Georgia. How'd we get to Louisiana?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 12:05 PM (4Utw1)

554 Fun fact! Each barrel of a 16"/50 naval rifle on a US battleship weighs more than a space shuttle orbiter.

That can't be right, can it? Maybe the whole turret?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 28, 2017 12:05 PM (B+qrE)

555 John Prine: The Accident
Posted by: mindful webworker - accidentally at March 28, 2017 12:04 PM (+bodw)

*shakes head*

They don't know how lucky they are.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 12:05 PM (8nWyX)

556 And..... a dollar says either Gang Members, or illegals... or BOTH...
Posted by: Don Q.
-------------

I'm gonna play the Perfecta.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2017 12:05 PM (ZO497)

557
Fun fact! Each barrel of a 16"/50 naval rifle on a US battleship weighs more than a space shuttle orbiter.
Posted by: hogmartin

How to operate one:

https://youtu.be/_wT1xkRpCKk

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 28, 2017 12:05 PM (IqV8l)

558 545
There are not 50 Republican Senators who would vote for Pryor for a "conservative" seat let alone flipping a "Liberal" seat.

Let's dispel ourselves of this foolish notion.
Posted by: WisRich at March 28, 2017 12:03 PM (hdpay)

===================

Deference to POTUS on picks seems very strong with people like McCain and Graham.

I believe that Congressional Republicans would welcome a conservative SCOTUS because that court could do all the dirty work that voters insist the senators do.

I don't think as little of the GOPe as many here do, but I don't think particularly highly of them either. I think that they may try to pressure Trump into a Kennedy like pick, but they'd never insist on another hardcore progressive. They have to worry about voters back home, remember?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 12:05 PM (mC1ZI)

559 We were just in Georgia. How'd we get to Louisiana?

I-10 usually

Posted by: IP at March 28, 2017 12:05 PM (UmSfZ)

560
Trump's a deal maker.

He's going to work with whomever.

Remember that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 10:38 AM (mC1ZI)

House members would be tarred and feathered back home if they went along with Trump or Cornyn on colluding with the Dems.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2017 12:07 PM (xDKH6)

561 You bloody Canucks have no appreciation of history. Since time immemorial, it's been scythes! Scythes!

Posted by: The chariots at March 28, 2017 12:04 PM (DMUuz)

No, scythes have to go on motorsycles.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2017 12:07 PM (WDdjT)

562 537 Gurgan/Jurjan Is classical Hyrcania, east side of the Caspian. I don't think Georgia ( West Caucasia) has anything to do with it. in classical times they called it Iberia.

Wiki is full of crap.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 28, 2017 12:01 PM (B/TAe)
----------------------------------------------
Hah! Well, at least that (perhaps) explains their name-derivation story, which I had never heard before. They're just ....geographically challenged.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 28, 2017 12:07 PM (hCoZK)

563 flipping a "Liberal" seat.

Can we dispense with this particular line of bullshit? The President nominates the justice...not for a minute would Obama have hesitated to "flip" a seat. And he didn't with the Garland nomination.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 28, 2017 12:08 PM (B+qrE)

564 We had a small bottle on the shelf. Exactly enough four the patients need, no more, no less. There's no record of anyone ordering it. It is in fact the medicine in question; we tested it out of sheer disbelief. This is the first patient who has needed it in many years (med was recently made)

So that happened. This patient has some special insurance kicking in from above, apparently.
Posted by: Locarno

Pearly Gates Insurance Corporation. I give them 5 stars!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 12:08 PM (4Utw1)

565 Oh noes! Headlines say Trump is gonna cut billions from social programs! Clutches pearls and swoons...

Posted by: the Skipper at March 28, 2017 12:08 PM (O2RFr)

566
With swords on the hubcaps? Because you have to have swords on the hub caps.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2017 12:00 PM (WDdjT)

And the hedgehog attachments they put on the tanks during the Normandy invasion.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 28, 2017 12:09 PM (lKyWE)

567 We were just in Georgia. How'd we get to Louisiana?

I-10 usually
Posted by: IP

Well played.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 12:09 PM (4Utw1)

568 >>Can we dispense with this particular line of bullshit? The President
nominates the justice...not for a minute would Obama have hesitated to
"flip" a seat. And he didn't with the Garland nomination.

The "Ted Kennedy" Senate seat.

I hate that nonsense.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2017 12:09 PM (NOIQH)

569 But he also confuses me. This painting has me thinking that the sky is the subject, and the ship just happened to wander in to the scene...

Or perhaps, it's about to wander out of the scene...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at March 28, 2017 12:10 PM (wtvvX)

570 That can't be right, can it? Maybe the whole turret?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 28, 2017 12:05 PM (B+qrE)

Nope, one gun, without the breech, is about 239,000 pounds. The orbiter was about 171,000 empty.

http://tinyurl.com/lsrzxf2
http://tinyurl.com/k7dp4ph

Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 12:10 PM (8nWyX)

571 For your entertainment:

styxhexenhammer666: It Will Be Hysterical When My Generation Gets Old

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5TNe4cH8GU

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 28, 2017 12:10 PM (tHwdc)

572 >>So that happened. This patient has some special insurance kicking in from above, apparently.

Very cool.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2017 12:10 PM (NOIQH)

573 You all see where Chuckie Schumer yelled at a Trump voter at a restaurant?

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 28, 2017 12:10 PM (O2RFr)

574 We were just in Georgia. How'd we get to Louisiana?

I-10 usually
Posted by: IP

Well played.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 12:09 PM (4Utw1)

I won't let you drive me. I20/59 FTW.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 28, 2017 12:11 PM (B+qrE)

575 Tinyurl shit the bed for me too.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 11:56 AM (4Utw1)
------------------------------
Yeah. You need to upgrade your membership so you get the platinum yurl, or at least gold.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 28, 2017 12:11 PM (hCoZK)

576 If the Dems work with Trump on infrastructure or whatever, it'll doom their "Trump is Hitler!" talk that their base loves. And Schumer, at least, seems to be anti-everything Trump, so we'll see.

If they were *smart*, they'd hold their fire, make noises about working with sensible whatever, but they're not.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 28, 2017 12:12 PM (u0s1P)

577 "You kid, but do you recall Michelle Obama's brilliant idea for smart shopping carts that would lecture shoppers if they put bad food/not enough healthy food in their cart?!? Not kidding."

*snort*

Yeah. We'll get right on that.

Posted by: Robert Crawford at March 28, 2017 12:12 PM (xhEbi)

578 563 flipping a "Liberal" seat.

Can we dispense with this particular line of bullshit? The President nominates the justice...not for a minute would Obama have hesitated to "flip" a seat. And he didn't with the Garland nomination.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 28, 2017 12:08 PM (B+qrE)

====================

The great secret that almost no one acknowledges is that Garland would have been just about centrist...in terms of the liberal justices. He would have been right in the middle of that crazy pack. He wasn't centrist in terms of the overall court at all.

That would have been a huge flip.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 12:12 PM (mC1ZI)

579 Nope, one gun, without the breech, is about 239,000 pounds. The orbiter was about 171,000 empty.

Wow. I know displacement is a thing, but that shouldn't be part of anything that floats.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 28, 2017 12:13 PM (B+qrE)

580 Talking about ships meeting their ends has reminded me to search out two books. Now pondering purchase of said books.

A Ship to Remember: The Saga of the Hornet by Alexander Griffin. 1943.

Queen of the Flat Tops by Stanley Johnston. This edition I would avoid because the cover art would always bug me, CV-2 never ever operated TBF Avengers.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0553126717

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 28, 2017 12:13 PM (n7RTy)

581 576 If the Dems work with Trump on infrastructure or whatever, it'll doom their "Trump is Hitler!" talk that their base loves. And Schumer, at least, seems to be anti-everything Trump, so we'll see.

If they were *smart*, they'd hold their fire, make noises about working with sensible whatever, but they're not.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 28, 2017 12:12 PM (u0s1P)

==================

Before the inauguration, I think Schumer was more open to the idea of working with Trump.

I guess the activist left going to his house and screaming at him had an effect.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 12:14 PM (mC1ZI)

582 And so does tearing up CVN-65, my old ship.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 10:05 AM (mpXpK)

My last ship. Sad she won't end up in a viking funeral like my first two, the Horne and the Belleau Wood, but I suspect she too contaminated.

Posted by: Toddler at March 28, 2017 12:14 PM (lc06+)

583 Nope, one gun, without the breech, is about 239,000 pounds. The orbiter was about 171,000 empty.

Wow. I know displacement is a thing, but that shouldn't be part of anything that floats.
Posted by: Circa

Now. Figure in firing that beast without rolling the ship.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2017 12:14 PM (4Utw1)

584 >>If they were *smart*, they'd hold their fire, make noises about working with sensible whatever, but they're not.

Democrats have purged their party of conservatives and moderates for the most part, particularly in the House. They created this monster so they could get party discipline and ram through legislation and now they can't control the monster. It only works if they continue to go left.

It's gonna be interesting over the next few years.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 12:15 PM (/tuJf)

585 Now. Figure in firing that beast without rolling the ship.

Figure firing NINE of them without rolling the ship.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 28, 2017 12:15 PM (B+qrE)

586 Many of not most US warships are scrapped at the shipbreakers in the port of Brownsville. You can see the larger ones, the aircraft carriers, from the highway. It always makes me sad to see them.

As they're towed into their last port, they get a last welcome from the local Coast Guard and other units.

Posted by: stace---so much winning! at March 28, 2017 12:16 PM (DKDOJ)

587 Figure firing NINE shells weighing as much as a small car out of them without rolling the ship.

Posted by: IP at March 28, 2017 12:16 PM (UmSfZ)

588 584 >>If they were *smart*, they'd hold their fire, make noises about working with sensible whatever, but they're not.

Democrats have purged their party of conservatives and moderates for the most part, particularly in the House. They created this monster so they could get party discipline and ram through legislation and now they can't control the monster. It only works if they continue to go left.

It's gonna be interesting over the next few years.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 12:15 PM (/tuJf)

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I'm gonna be honest: I think Reid would have made the noise but kept the caucus in line to bypass a filibuster.

Reid was a despicable human being (he's dead right? I'm just gonna act like he's dead and refer to him in the past tense. It makes me feel better.), but he knew how to control his caucus. He knew how to plan out a strategy. He knew how to implement that strategy.

Schumer seems to have risen in the Senate leadership ranks through inertia and little else.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 12:16 PM (mC1ZI)

589 582 My last ship. Sad she won't end up in a viking
funeral like my first two, the Horne and the Belleau Wood, but I suspect
she too contaminated.

Posted by: Toddler at March 28, 2017 12:14 PM (lc06+)

That is just another excuse. Even when it was operating it wasn't "heavily contaminated". Once it is defueled if they remove the upper internals package and the head there will be little or noting there,

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 12:16 PM (mpXpK)

590 If you like Turner's paintings watch the movie Mr Turner. It is a difficult movie about a difficult genius. I've watched it twice which I seldom do.

Posted by: Lester at March 28, 2017 12:17 PM (LfJIn)

591 More about the ship being towed in this painting:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Temeraire_(179

Very interesting history. Amongst other things, having fought at Trafalgar.

Posted by: Sharkman at March 28, 2017 12:18 PM (zKIA2)

592 >>Schumer seems to have risen in the Senate leadership ranks through inertia and little else.

Better than Pelosi. She's stayed on despite enormous failure.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 12:19 PM (/tuJf)

593 There isn't anything "contaminated" about the Big E except her cores and the plumbing on the hot side of the steam generator.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 28, 2017 12:20 PM (B+qrE)

594
Schumer seems to have risen in the Senate leadership ranks through inertia and little else. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 12:16 PM (mC1ZI)
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Big Blue and not usually embarrassing in public. See, Durbin, Dick.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 28, 2017 12:20 PM (MIKMs)

595 nood.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 28, 2017 12:20 PM (4C8M6)

596 592 >>Schumer seems to have risen in the Senate leadership ranks through inertia and little else.

Better than Pelosi. She's stayed on despite enormous failure.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 12:19 PM (/tuJf)

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Pelosi seems to have very good arm twisting ability.

That's the sort of thing you might expect from a caucus leader.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 12:20 PM (mC1ZI)

597
*sprays Lysol judiciously about the thread.

*plugs in a new Febreeze

Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2017 12:21 PM (8XRCm)

598 nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2017 12:21 PM (mpXpK)

599 My last ship. Sad she won't end up in a viking
funeral like my first two, the Horne and the Belleau Wood, but I suspect
she too contaminated.

Pity they can't do a Scapa Flow (am I right?), tow her out into deep water, open the hatches and let her sink. A better end than sliced up like a piece of cheese.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2017 12:21 PM (X6fMO)

600 Reid was a despicable human being (he's dead right? I'm just gonna act like he's dead and refer to him in the past tense. It makes me feel better.),

I'm assuming he's undead. A lich, maybe. To go with Kali/Kary/Malirith Pelosi. (Not sure who Tiamat and Kraken are, but we *had* a Garland!)

Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 28, 2017 12:21 PM (u0s1P)

601
Oblig. Iowa muzzle blast pic:
http://bit.ly/2mMMOTg

Posted by: irright at March 28, 2017 12:22 PM (pMGkg)

602 How come Spider-Man doesn't shoot webs out of his ass like a spider?

Posted by: josephistan at March 28, 2017 12:23 PM (7HtZB)

603 re: CVN-65, the engineering spaces could be sealed off from public access. There goes the exposure issue.

Still leaves the problem of upkeep of ship as a museum. Need really deep pockets for that. Failure could result in what happened to USS Cabot when she was brought back from the Spanish Navy to become a museum ship.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 28, 2017 12:23 PM (n7RTy)

604 >>That's the sort of thing you might expect from a caucus leader.

True, but again it's a lot easier on her side of the aisle because her caucus is almost universally liberal. Not only does it make it easier for her to get them to fall in line on legislation but she also controls the spigot for election dollars.

House Republicans are much more diverse as we have just seen and there are numerous outside groups that fund different factions.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 12:23 PM (/tuJf)

605 Broadsides weren't actually enough to move a battleship noticeably. The shells are huge and moving fast, but remember that each turret has three 120-ton barrels. Then there are the breeches. Then the mass of the armored turret, the hull, the engines, citadel, etc.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 12:24 PM (8nWyX)

606 604 >>That's the sort of thing you might expect from a caucus leader.

True, but again it's a lot easier on her side of the aisle because her caucus is almost universally liberal. Not only does it make it easier for her to get them to fall in line on legislation but she also controls the spigot for election dollars.

House Republicans are much more diverse as we have just seen and there are numerous outside groups that fund different factions.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 12:23 PM (/tuJf)

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I'm betting the Democrats were pretty damn diverse in 2009, and yet she still forced a majority of her caucus to vote on a terrible, terrible bill.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 12:24 PM (mC1ZI)

607 --
Broadsides weren't actually enough to move a
battleship noticeably. The shells are huge and moving fast, but remember
that each turret has three 120-ton barrels. Then there are the
breeches. Then the mass of the armored turret, the hull, the engines,
citadel, etc.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 12:24 PM
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I believe they also have recoil absorption mechanisms built in to the turrets.( i.e. those heavy barrels move something like four feet in recoil)

Posted by: irright at March 28, 2017 12:31 PM (pMGkg)

608 >>I'm betting the Democrats were pretty damn diverse in 2009, and yet she still forced a majority of her caucus to vote on a terrible, terrible bill.

And lots of them are now gone. Google Heath Shuler. Voted against Obamacare and was toast and replaced by one Mark Meadows, head of the Freedom Caucus.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 12:31 PM (/tuJf)

609
Broadsides weren't actually enough to move a battleship noticeably. The shells are huge and moving fast, but remember that each turret has three 120-ton barrels. Then there are the breeches. Then the mass of the armored turret, the hull, the engines, citadel, etc. Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 12:24 PM

Having a 36ft draft also helped

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 28, 2017 12:34 PM (lKyWE)

610 608 >>I'm betting the Democrats were pretty damn diverse in 2009, and yet she still forced a majority of her caucus to vote on a terrible, terrible bill.

And lots of them are now gone. Google Heath Shuler. Voted against Obamacare and was toast and replaced by one Mark Meadows, head of the Freedom Caucus.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 12:31 PM (/tuJf)

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That's my point.

Willing to tempt with electoral disaster for a permanent policy gain.

If the ACA were good policy, then the defeat would have been temporary, but it was bad policy, so Democrats continue to pay for it.

If the repeal/replace legislation was good policy, then Ryan should be willing to do whatever it takes to get it passed because any negative effects politically from the passage will be evened out by the good effects of the policy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 12:35 PM (mC1ZI)

611
If the repeal/replace legislation was good policy, then Ryan should be willing to do whatever it takes to get it passed because any negative effects politically from the passage will be evened out by the good effects of the policy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 12:35 PM (mC1ZI)

Ryan didn't sell the bill he just ran around telling people this fufills a campaign promise

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 28, 2017 12:39 PM (lKyWE)

612 >>If the repeal/replace legislation was good policy, then Ryan should be willing to do whatever it takes to get it passed because any negative effects politically from the passage will be evened out by the good effects of the policy.

What do you do with a group that won't compromise? As someone who has spent my life negotiating deals I can tell you that there are times when you run into people who will not budge on any position and it is impossible to get a deal.

38 Democrats voted against Obamacare. Ryan has a much smaller room for losing votes and the people who went against it were never going to support it. They wanted a clean repeal or nothing as we just saw from Mo Brooks.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 12:39 PM (/tuJf)

613 612 What do you do with a group that won't compromise? As someone who has spent my life negotiating deals I can tell you that there are times when you run into people who will not budge on any position and it is impossible to get a deal.

38 Democrats voted against Obamacare. Ryan has a much smaller room for losing votes and the people who went against it were never going to support it. They wanted a clean repeal or nothing as we just saw from Mo Brooks.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 12:39 PM (/tuJf)

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The HFC had freed up its members to vote as they wished.

They just needed to flip a few of them. That could have been done with committee assignments.

But, the moderates of the party hated the bill too. Because it didn't appeal to anyone.

The last whip count I saw was somewhere around 180 for the bill. That's not just the HFC opposing it.

Maybe the bill was...bad...?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 28, 2017 12:42 PM (mC1ZI)

614 >>The HFC had freed up its members to vote as they wished.

C'mon, you know that isn't really true. They voted as a block save for Poe who quit the group over it. His comment after leaving was that there are some FC members who would vote agains the 10 Commandments.

And they were also threatened by Americans for Prosperity (Koch Brothers) who said they would not only not support any member who voted for it they would work to primary them.

The last whip count you saw included concessions to the FC which pushed out moderates. Again, that's the problem with a big diverse group, you give in one area and you piss off others.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 12:46 PM (/tuJf)

615 Ryan didn't sell the bill he just ran around telling people this fufills a campaign promise

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 28, 2017 12:39 PM (lKyWE)

Which it didn't... because saying something is repeal does not make it repeal. When you leave most of the thing you are supposedly repealing intact, it ain't repeal.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2017 01:00 PM (xDKH6)

616 The HFC had freed up its members to vote as they wished.

C'mon, you know that isn't really true. They voted as a block save
for Poe who quit the group over it. His comment after leaving was that
there are some FC members who would vote agains the 10 Commandments.

And they were also threatened by Americans for Prosperity (Koch
Brothers) who said they would not only not support any member who voted
for it they would work to primary them.

The last whip count you saw included concessions to the FC which
pushed out moderates. Again, that's the problem with a big diverse
group, you give in one area and you piss off others.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2017 12:46 PM (/tuJf)

Jack... that isn't true. There are 40 HFC members. A little over half were no votes.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2017 01:01 PM (xDKH6)

617 She looks like a ghost, being towed in that way. It must have been awful to see her dragged in that way by a frothing fire and smoke spewing machine from the next age. I don't know that the sky was the big deal, and maybe it was, but maybe rather it was the reflection of the sky in that shallow water where they were going to ditch the ghost. I was glad to see an escort out on the horizon. It sure was a nice calm day, by any measure.

Posted by: goon at March 28, 2017 01:12 PM (EaQ6/)

618 Is that the painting that appears in the "Skyfall" James Bond flick? Specifically, in the scene where he is meeting the new (young-kid) Q in the museum?

Posted by: Steamboat McGoo at March 28, 2017 01:38 PM (M6etg)

619 imho it was Turner's style to treat sky, water, and the actual "object" as co-equal subjects. Rather than just depicting his nominal subject in a way that displayed it to the viewer, he wanted to create an immersive environment which would endow the viewer with a feeling of presence. Remember that his paintings are also huge; if you're in front of a real one you almost feel as if you could step into it. He may have been held back by the comparatively primitive technology of his day, but his ambition was to be a kind of IMAX.

Posted by: grayishpanther at March 28, 2017 01:58 PM (ty9Ew)

620 the sky is the subject, and the ship just happened

SUNSET is happening....it's allegorical

Posted by: dad29 at March 28, 2017 03:29 PM (Xv8QV)

621 The painting is also this: Turner was a yuuge fan of technological progress! He loved newfangled machinery.

The new steamship pulling the old sailing ship to a scrapyard would have appealed to Turner-- the price of progress sort of thing, however melancholy and wistful.

Posted by: mnw at March 28, 2017 04:25 PM (Q93AK)

622 Didn't read every post, but if not mentioned, Melvyn Bragg had an episode of In Our Time regarding this very painting.
Can be downloaded through itunes, In Our Times podcast. A quite thrilling show, depending on one's interests.

Posted by: Joe Mack at March 28, 2017 07:37 PM (g6yUI)

623 RE: 621 (mnw):

In 618 (just above your comment) I said:

"Is that the painting that appears in the "Skyfall" James Bond flick?
Specifically, in the scene where he is meeting the new (young-kid) Q in
the museum?"

It is indeed this painting (I just played the scene from DVD), and Q begins the conversation with Bond about "A grand old ship being ignominiously hauled away for scrap" and "The inevitable march of time" - both possible veiled references to Bond's age.

They then have a lively repartee about Bond (old) and Q (very young, and "Still having spots", i.e. acne).

Posted by: Steamboat McGoo at March 29, 2017 01:56 AM (M6etg)

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