So Dumb: Nanny Bloomberg Spends Millions on Compulsory Nevada Gun-Check Initiative, But the Initiative is Unenforceable Due to Poor Draftsmanship

If they're so superior, why the fuck are they so stupid?

The problem was that the initiative directed the FBI to conduct gun background checks -- and a state initiative cannot boss a federal agency into how it spends its money or how it performs its duties.

Like good little liberals everywhere, Nevada’s anti-gun Democrats expected someone else (in this case, the federal government in the form of the FBI) to foot the bill for their edict.
The feds have rejected it outright.
Nevada Attorney General Adam Paul Laxalt has noted it is entirely unenforceable (PDF).
Mike Bloomberg is out the $20 million or so he spent pushing this faulty referendum into being.

Awww.

Posted by: Ace at 04:54 PM

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Posted by: dib at December 30, 2016 04:55 PM (VJOLZ)

2 PERFECT!

Posted by: R. DUKE at December 30, 2016 04:57 PM (ONH2e)

3 Probably 3rd, 4th or something.

My eyes weep crocodile tears for Bloomberg.

Hey, if he wants to burn millions, I'll take a couple off his hands and build a farm. Organic. He might even get a few baskets of tomatoes out of it.

Posted by: Vanceone at December 30, 2016 04:57 PM (KbgjX)

4 Read the article, but the problem is that all it would take a second law to pay for the FBI's time. Bloomberg's group will have to wait a while, but they are persistent until the law funding the FBI's extra workload passes.

Posted by: dib at December 30, 2016 04:58 PM (VJOLZ)

5 *points and laughs at the dumb commie*

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 30, 2016 04:58 PM (Om16U)

6 consider the 20 million a down payment.

Posted by: dib at December 30, 2016 04:58 PM (VJOLZ)

7 It actually was a reasonably drafted bill, if you assume, as they did, that a Dem would occupy the WH. We've already seen that the WH calls the tune at the FBI. Hillary would have spent the money and resources on this in a heartbeat. The FBI knows that Obama is done, so they don't care what he says anymore.

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2016 04:59 PM (LAe3v)

8 Good.
I'm glad Bloomberg is $20 mil poorer.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 30, 2016 04:59 PM (6IPEM)

9
The problem was that the initiative directed the FBI to conduct gun background checks -- and a state initiative cannot boss a federal agency into how it spends its money or how it performs its duties.

======================

The Fugitive Slave Act looks on and laughs from the grave at its hideous distant cousin.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 30, 2016 04:59 PM (YSdvs)

10 That they try shit in the first place shows how stupid they are.

Posted by: Skip at December 30, 2016 05:00 PM (5sOEp)

11 The opposition is made up of evil retards.

Posted by: josephistan at December 30, 2016 05:00 PM (7qAYi)

12 Strike back. Hard. And just as unconstitutionally.

Require a background check on every single Michael Bloomberg backed organization and its officers before they're allowed to exercise their First Amendment rights in connection with elections.

Require every single Michael Bloomberg backed organization and its officers to pass a thorough background check and purchase a permit before being allowed to be free from warrantless searches and seizures.

Require every single Michael Bloomberg employee to pass a background check and purchase a license in order to be free from cruel and unusual punishment.

F**k them.

Posted by: Furious George at December 30, 2016 05:00 PM (77i7V)

13 How exactly are they gonna KNOW that you sold one?

Posted by: Herman Cain at December 30, 2016 05:00 PM (5jdSv)

14 a state initiative cannot boss a federal agency into how it spends its money or how it performs its duties.

Unless it WANTS to be so told.

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2016 05:00 PM (LAe3v)

15 It actually was a reasonably drafted bill, if you assume, as they did, that a Dem would occupy the WH. We've already seen that the WH calls the tune at the FBI. Hillary would have spent the money and resources on this in a heartbeat. The FBI knows that Obama is done, so they don't care what he says anymore.

Ding ding ding!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2016 05:01 PM (O7kBk)

16 Here's the thing.

Our Betters know that they are smarter than the "rubes" who pay their taxes.

Even if they're as dumb as a box of rocks (lookin' at you Preezy Bammy and Assistant Preezy Biden) the MSM and the Political Classe is still 110% certain they're smarter than the serfs. And they will always be smarter in their minds.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 30, 2016 05:01 PM (2crW4)

17 So many dummies, so little time to comment on them all.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of Double-Barrelling at December 30, 2016 05:01 PM (tHwdc)

18 a fool and his money are soon parted

Posted by: concrete girl at December 30, 2016 05:01 PM (TD/W3)

19
All the little bossy bitches want to boss someone else into doing their bossy bitch work.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 30, 2016 05:01 PM (jtqoO)

20 Why in the hell do progressive liberal Fascists think they can control and regulate every fucking bit of everyone's existence? They cry so hard about abortion being impossible and immoral to regulate but have no problems anywhere else when it comes to anything.

Posted by: USNtakim at December 30, 2016 05:01 PM (hMqvx)

21 Damn Super Beets!

Posted by: catman at December 30, 2016 05:02 PM (5jdSv)

22 Mike Bloomberg is out the $20 million or so he spent pushing this faulty referendum into being.

Silver linings, always.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of Double-Barrelling at December 30, 2016 05:02 PM (tHwdc)

23 To quote Carl of Aqua Teen Hunger Force, "you're pretty stupid for a genius."

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at December 30, 2016 05:02 PM (kumBu)

24 How exactly are they gonna KNOW that you sold one?

They'll be keeping a close on eye on the canoe accident rate.

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2016 05:03 PM (LAe3v)

25 20 Why in the hell do progressive liberal Fascists think they can control and regulate every fucking bit of everyone's existence? They cry so hard about abortion being impossible and immoral to regulate but have no problems anywhere else when it comes to anything.
Posted by: USNtakim at December 30, 2016 05:01 PM (hMqvx)

======================

The Knowledge Problem, what is that?

"I have a clue..."
-Friedrich Hayek

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 30, 2016 05:03 PM (YSdvs)

26 If only Miss Sloane were real!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 30, 2016 05:03 PM (Nwg0u)

27 24 How exactly are they gonna KNOW that you sold one?

They'll be keeping a close on eye on the canoe accident rate.
Posted by: pep at December 30, 2016 05:03 PM (LAe3v)

==================

"I saw my neighbor hand his son a gun that the son did not own."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 30, 2016 05:03 PM (YSdvs)

28 If you had told me one year ago today that my favorite people of this week would be Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin I'd have asked for a hit off your crack pipe.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 30, 2016 05:04 PM (mgbwf)

29 And I still say every time the Democrats push some law to take away our rights we should push a law that outlaws the Democrat Party because they are subversive criminals.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 30, 2016 05:04 PM (mpXpK)

30 ... you even needed a back ground check if you were to loan your gun to someone else...

Posted by: E.T. at December 30, 2016 05:04 PM (9n0dl)

31 Apropos of nothing, I just finished cleaning my new AR15 for the first time. I'm feeling very manly.

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2016 05:05 PM (LAe3v)

32 I mean it is easy.. Don't sell a gun to a pajama boy, or a woman who gets pissed that you call her "Honey" or anybody wearing "skinny" anything..

Posted by: catman at December 30, 2016 05:06 PM (5jdSv)

33 fail away

'tis a mental illness with these sorts

Posted by: micky at December 30, 2016 05:06 PM (o5vMc)

34 You know how ~~spies~~ progs are, whiny little bitches.

- Sam Axe

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 30, 2016 05:06 PM (Nwg0u)

35 Apropos of nothing, I just finished cleaning my new AR15 for the first time. I'm feeling very manly.
Posted by: pep at December 30, 2016 05:05 PM
******
Cool. Congratulations.
When is your boating trip planned?

Posted by: L, Elle at December 30, 2016 05:06 PM (6IPEM)

36 I mean it is easy.. Don't sell a gun to a pajama boy, or a woman who gets pissed that you call her "Honey" or anybody wearing "skinny" anything..

You can't control who the flap their gums to.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2016 05:07 PM (O7kBk)

37 can you still get a big gulp in nevada? nanny fuckin bloomberg should move to germany with soros. i loathe these little pricks.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 30, 2016 05:07 PM (KP5rU)

38 Apropos of nothing, I just finished cleaning my new AR15 for the first time. I'm feeling very manly.

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2016 05:05 PM (LAe3v)

Shockingly, none of my husband's prog family gifted D'oh Boy the three-point sling he requested for his AR-15 for Christmas.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2016 05:07 PM (PY9jH)

39 I'm not surprised at all. I have a rule that the Federal Government has to follow the original intent of the Constitution. They haven't listened. Although I have been expecting a SWAT team for 8 years.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at December 30, 2016 05:07 PM (9+rn+)

40 @31 I don't think we do caliber wars here but everything else is a fight so....

Imagine how much more manly you'd feel if it was in .308!

Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2016 05:08 PM (eFRS+)

41 Nevada Dems have a ways to go to be as stupid as Cali Dems, they just legalized under age prostitutes here.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 30, 2016 05:08 PM (6Ll1u)

42 >>>>The problem was that the initiative directed the FBI to conduct gun background checks
.
.
.
.So let me get this straight.....A State wrote a law that directed a branch of the Federal Government to comply with a State law they wrote.

Can you spell Weapons Grade Stupid........ Whoever wrote and approved the language of this law should have their law license seized and revoked.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 30, 2016 05:08 PM (icl5y)

43 And I still say every time the Democrats push some law to take away our rights we should push a law that outlaws the Democrat Party because they are subversive criminals.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 30, 2016 05:04 PM (mpXpK)

The first thing Trump should do is to have the DOJ initiate a RICO lawsuit against the Democratic Party.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 30, 2016 05:08 PM (6QnGR)

44 I could find MUCH better uses for $20 million. Like buying guns.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 30, 2016 05:09 PM (0mRoj)

45 If you had told me one year ago today that my favorite people of this week would be Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin I'd have asked for a hit off your crack pipe.

-
Strange days have found us
Strange days have tracked us down

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 30, 2016 05:09 PM (Nwg0u)

46 Accepting phishing emails...nominating Hillary...unenforceable gun laws...boy the dems are DUMB.

Posted by: Rgallegos at December 30, 2016 05:10 PM (Qon8s)

47 Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 30, 2016 05:04 PM (mgbwf)

And what has Trump done this week that makes him one his favorites? I haven't been following his comments very closely.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 30, 2016 05:10 PM (tOcW/)

48 >>Why in the hell do progressive liberal Fascists think they can control and regulate every fucking bit of everyone's existence?

Too much power.

Too much belief in the moral righteousness of themselves and their ideas.

Loved reading their freakouts re "we must stop Milo's book from being published" and "how can he be allowed" crap.

And now his book is #1 on Amazon 3 months before it comes out.

Heh.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 30, 2016 05:10 PM (gTQoY)

49
Posted by: pep at December 30, 2016 05:05 PM
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If you're really feeling sporty, try a little synthetic grease on the buffer spring.

Posted by: Weasel at December 30, 2016 05:10 PM (Sfs6o)

50 Cool. Congratulations.

When is your boating trip planned?

Posted by: L, Elle

Heh, walked right into that one, I did.

Imagine how much more manly you'd feel if it was in .308!

Posted by: blaster

My buddy brought his to the range yesterday. I had all the fun with none of the work.

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2016 05:10 PM (LAe3v)

51 Nevada Dems have a ways to go to be as stupid as Cali Dems, they just legalized under age prostitutes here.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 30, 2016 05:08 PM (6Ll1u)

It's the Stupid Olympics!

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 30, 2016 05:10 PM (6QnGR)

52 43 And I still say every time the Democrats push some law to take away our rights we should push a law that outlaws the Democrat Party because they are subversive criminals.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 30, 2016 05:04 PM (mpXpK)

The first thing Trump should do is to have the DOJ initiate a RICO lawsuit against the Democratic Party.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 30, 2016 05:08 PM (6QnGR)

We can't allow that because..... ummm.... we are gentlemen?

Posted by: the GOP at December 30, 2016 05:10 PM (HJEuH)

53 I think I just heard a faint Nelson Muntz "HA-HA!" on the wind.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gloaty McGloatface at December 30, 2016 05:11 PM (RwwCT)

54
They told me that if I voted for Trump, a billionaire would be too incompetent to perform in the government arena......and they were right!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 30, 2016 05:11 PM (LuZz8)

55 Putin: rides a bear

Obozo: wants a bear to ride him

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 30, 2016 05:11 PM (Nwg0u)

56 55
Putin: rides a bear

Obama wants to be ridden bare.

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2016 05:12 PM (LAe3v)

57 Another example of coordinated anti-gun activity in the pipeline for at least the last year expecting Hillary! to win and just like Obama forced the long waited progressive healthcare bill through even though America didn't want it, 2017 was supposed to be the year all the guns finally were taken away.
Oh dear God we were so very close to an actual Civil War.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at December 30, 2016 05:12 PM (9+rn+)

58 Nevada Dems have a ways to go to be as stupid as Cali Dems, they just legalized under age prostitutes here.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 30, 2016 05:08 PM (6Ll1u)

Harry Reid: Why yes, I am moving to California. Why do you ask?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 30, 2016 05:12 PM (auHtY)

59 If you had told me one year ago today that my favorite people of this week would be Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin I'd have asked for a hit off your crack pipe.

-
Strange days have found us
Strange days have tracked us down
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

May you live in interesting times.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2016 05:13 PM (O7kBk)

60 >>>To quote Carl of Aqua Teen Hunger Force, "you're pretty stupid for a genius."

LOL!

"I am the Cybernetic Ghost of Christmas Past....from THE FUTURE!"

Posted by: Max Power at December 30, 2016 05:13 PM (q177U)

61 Loved reading their freakouts re "we must stop Milo's book from being published" and "how can he be allowed" crap.

-
They're homophobes.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 30, 2016 05:13 PM (Nwg0u)

62 Our establishment overlords and betters.

Child Prostitution is totes legal and safe.

Guns are dangerous and illegal.

Posted by: Pepe at December 30, 2016 05:13 PM (HJEuH)

63 rico the dems. go after the pukes like they are the gambino family. i would bet democrats are responsible for more murders than the gambinos. the democrats certainly embezzled. and out right stole more shit than the gambinos. hell, the clintons alone make every mafia family look like pikers.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 30, 2016 05:13 PM (KP5rU)

64 OT

Picked up my annual New Years cheese wedge of Stilton. Ten bucks worth! Go large or go home!

Posted by: Max Power at December 30, 2016 05:14 PM (q177U)

65 We really need to just take their thumbs.

Posted by: O in the bunker at December 30, 2016 05:15 PM (nFwvY)

66 and, gotti at least set his fireworks off.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 30, 2016 05:16 PM (KP5rU)

67 2017 was supposed to be the year all the guns finally were taken away.
Oh dear God we were so very close to an actual Civil War.

That's why we said this one was for all the marbles.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2016 05:16 PM (O7kBk)

68 64 OT

Picked up my annual New Years cheese wedge of Stilton. Ten bucks worth! Go large or go home!
Posted by: Max Power at December 30, 2016 05:14 PM (q177U)

My very English friend once described the flavor of stilton as "biting into an old cathedral." Talk about descriptive!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2016 05:16 PM (mbhDw)

69 All the guns were never going to be taken away. Some may have been handed in, but they would never get them all.

Posted by: Weasel at December 30, 2016 05:18 PM (Sfs6o)

70 41 Nevada Dems have a ways to go to be as stupid as Cali Dems, they just legalized under age prostitutes here.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 30, 2016 05:08 PM (6Ll1u)

++++

If you follow the logic on that whole minors can't consent to sex it makes sense. If you can't blame the minor if money isn't changing hands, how can you hold them responsible if there is money involved? You see, they are the victim!

Underage prostitution is still illegal, and the johns and pimps are still criminals, but the minors are victims. And, how can you be in favor of arresting victims?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 30, 2016 05:18 PM (R+30W)

71
Doomkopf would have had more luck sending the money to Accra, Ghana via Western Union to cover all modalities and would have remain blessed.

But no.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2016 05:18 PM (mbhDw)

72 If you had told me within our lifetime a state would legalize child prostitution, ..... Yep still can't wrap my brain around that one.

Isn't sed with children basically ok south of the border? I think it is which is the only reason why I see this law being passed in California.

Posted by: Pepe at December 30, 2016 05:18 PM (HJEuH)

73 Trump is a fighter.

Posted by: Max Power at December 30, 2016 05:18 PM (q177U)

74 Per Drudge the other day, gun sales and prepping supply sales are way up once again since the election, but this time it's the libs doing the buying.

So it might be reasonable to assume that LIBS won't look too fondly on Bloomberg etc. trying to take away their 2A rights.

Keep fucking those chickens, Dems.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 30, 2016 05:18 PM (oZEJt)

75 Cali, where you can be a legal child prostitute, but don't think of buying cigarettes until you are 21.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 30, 2016 05:19 PM (6Ll1u)

76 Gun pron? Did somebody say gun pron?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S67SbYq5NdY

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 30, 2016 05:19 PM (Nwg0u)

77 Something needs to be done to punish them for this shit. If we can't make them illegal how about a law that says every time they push a bill that is unconsitutional everyone who sponsors the bill and votes for it must resign from all politics for the rest of their life if the voters deem it to be unconstitutional.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 30, 2016 05:19 PM (mpXpK)

78 Western Leftists are only good at one thing, propaganda that assaults Judeo Christian and western cultural values.

They are literally bag of hammers dumb at literally everything else they try.

Posted by: Shiggz at December 30, 2016 05:20 PM (fNV6w)

79 Isn't sed with children basically ok south of the border? I think it is which is the only reason why I see this law being passed in California.

It's for both sexes. Lot of dem lawmakers want to diddle little boys.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2016 05:20 PM (O7kBk)

80 OT-This is a really interesting article from Frontpage on the psychology of Barack Obama and how his missing father influenced him:

http://tinyurl.com/hde656a

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 30, 2016 05:21 PM (tOcW/)

81 70 41 Nevada Dems have a ways to go to be as stupid as Cali Dems, they just legalized under age prostitutes here.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 30, 2016 05:08 PM (6Ll1u)

++++

If you follow the logic on that whole minors can't consent to sex it makes sense. If you can't blame the minor if money isn't changing hands, how can you hold them responsible if there is money involved? You see, they are the victim!

Underage prostitution is still illegal, and the johns and pimps are still criminals, but the minors are victims. And, how can you be in favor of arresting victims?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 30, 2016 05:18 PM (R+30

Bullshit. I've never heard of minors being arrested for prostitution. NEVER. Please prove me wrong on the scale where such a law should and would be enacted.

And that has nothing to do with the law in place. We all know it.

Posted by: Pepe at December 30, 2016 05:21 PM (HJEuH)

82 $20M down the shitter...it's a Dem, all right.

Posted by: Gem at December 30, 2016 05:21 PM (uaHyk)

83 74 Per Drudge the other day, gun sales and prepping supply sales are way up once again since the election, but this time it's the libs doing the buying.

So it might be reasonable to assume that LIBS won't look too fondly on Bloomberg etc. trying to take away their 2A rights.

Keep fucking those chickens, Dems.
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 30, 2016 05:18 PM (oZEJt)

======================

Anti-2nd Amendment hasn't been an electoral winner...ever?

But, we may be in the opening stages of only Democrats who live in very very safe places like San Francisco ever bringing it up on a national stage. Even then, it'll probably be muted.

I think the elected members of the party understand that gun control is a loser. It's their donors and activist base that don't understand yet, and I think they may be beginning to figure it out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 30, 2016 05:21 PM (YSdvs)

84 Something that can easily inferred from what the Wikileaks emails revealed about the political left, and to be fair, the same thing is likely going on in the political right to some extent, is that the ruling class will do anything, say anything, untrue, illegal, corrupt, or unethical to foist on us, the little people, all that it is that we are too stupid to know what is good for us.

Until the swamp is truly drained, this shit if far from over, and the GOPe are not our friends.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Aware and I WILL NOT COMPLY!) at December 30, 2016 05:22 PM (Gh3fw)

85 77 Something needs to be done to punish them for this shit. If we can't make them illegal how about a law that says every time they push a bill that is unconsitutional everyone who sponsors the bill and votes for it must resign from all politics for the rest of their life if the voters deem it to be unconstitutional.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 30, 2016 05:19 PM (mpXpK)

++++

Every time a state passes a law restricting abortion and SCOTUS finds it unconstitutional, you want all those state legislators thrown out of office?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 30, 2016 05:22 PM (R+30W)

86 79 Isn't sed with children basically ok south of the border? I think it is which is the only reason why I see this law being passed in California.

It's for both sexes. Lot of dem lawmakers want to diddle little boys.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2016 05:20 PM (O7kBk)

Rampant pederasty in Hollywood.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 30, 2016 05:22 PM (0mRoj)

87 The stupid runs deep.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 30, 2016 05:22 PM (Zfvaz)

88 Pity it'd be a trademark infringement, or it'd be cool for someone in NV to open a Bloomberg's Guns & Ammo store.

Just so we could see the Bloomberg Vs. Bloomberg stiled lawsuit which'd be sure to follow.

Oh, and the store should specialize in the selling to and the training of, financially less-well-off and new-to-shooting clientele.

And provide lots of NRA and pro-shooting sports pamphlets and literature.

Finally, it should hire a very highly competent, "thinks on their feet", credible and articulate media spokesperson.

Alfonso Rachel, maybe?

I'd make it do EVERY thing possible to make it the most hated by Bloomberg thing, EVER!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 30, 2016 05:22 PM (v5iqM)

89 >>>My very English friend once described the flavor of stilton as "biting into an old cathedral." Talk about descriptive!

I was gonna say an old shoe, but those English have a way with words.

Posted by: Max Power at December 30, 2016 05:23 PM (q177U)

90 74 Per Drudge the other day, gun sales and prepping supply sales are way up once again since the election, but this time it's the libs doing the buying.

So it might be reasonable to assume that LIBS won't look too fondly on Bloomberg etc. trying to take away their 2A rights.

Keep fucking those chickens, Dems.
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 30, 2016 05:18 PM (oZEJt)

======================

I think many of those guns will be used in terror attacks in the coming years. It's what the Left always does when they don't get their way. Nudge, shove, kill.

Posted by: josephistan at December 30, 2016 05:23 PM (7qAYi)

91 79 Isn't sed with children basically ok south of the border? I think it is which is the only reason why I see this law being passed in California.

It's for both sexes. Lot of dem lawmakers want to diddle little boys.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2016 05:20 PM (O7kBk)

Yep. The tragedy of it all is people automatically jump to only girls being exploited and raped where it happens to little boys at nearly the same rate.

But boys are suppose to enjoy it when exploited.

Posted by: Pepe at December 30, 2016 05:24 PM (HJEuH)

92 Gun pron? Did somebody say gun pron?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S67SbYq5NdY
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 30, 2016 05:19 PM (Nwg0u)

OK, I might have to get that.

Posted by: Country Singer (Gab @Bert G) at December 30, 2016 05:24 PM (GUBah)

93 OT:
Trump basically gave Putin a high five behind BHO's back for ignoring the Boy King's expulsion of Russian diplomats. How off the charts are Obama's tantrums tonight?

Posted by: Jmel at December 30, 2016 05:24 PM (tv+BP)

94 Every time a state passes a law restricting abortion
and SCOTUS finds it unconstitutional, you want all those state
legislators thrown out of office?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 30, 2016 05:22 PM (R+30W)

I said the voters, not the black robes. What they say has very little to do with the Constitution.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 30, 2016 05:24 PM (mpXpK)

95 Preordered Milo's book just as a "s***w you" to the lefties. Hope he makes a fortune from it.

Posted by: Tuna at December 30, 2016 05:25 PM (JSovD)

96 91 Yep. The tragedy of it all is people automatically jump to only girls being exploited and raped where it happens to little boys at nearly the same rate.

But boys are suppose to enjoy it when exploited.
Posted by: Pepe at December 30, 2016 05:24 PM (HJEuH)

====================

It's not that they believe that boys enjoy it, it's that boys are not a "historically marginalized group", so they deserve less sympathy.

Also, they have the patriarchy to look after them, amiright?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 30, 2016 05:25 PM (YSdvs)

97 88 Pity it'd be a trademark infringement, or it'd be cool for someone in NV to open a Bloomberg's Guns & Ammo store.
______

And it could sell 44 oz. fountain drinks and cigarettes.

Posted by: Furious George at December 30, 2016 05:26 PM (77i7V)

98 That Cali law re under-age prostitutes seems crazy to me.
Scary crazy.
Most of the girls who escape the life do so when they are arrested, i.e., when they are forcibly removed from the Borg and can re-orient their brains.

Yeah sure, it's the customers and, above all, the pimps that you want to punish, but you have to be able to detain the minors.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 30, 2016 05:26 PM (Nox3c)

99 Holy Shit! I just realized that California just entered the market place for pedophile sex tourism!!!1!!

Nice California. The other 49.states should invade you and occupy you for that offense.

Posted by: Pepe at December 30, 2016 05:27 PM (HJEuH)

100 I thought the law in Nevada was everybody must own 17 guns.

Posted by: R. DUKE at December 30, 2016 05:27 PM (ONH2e)

101 If they're so superior, why the fuck are they so stupid?
----------
While we were sitting at a campfire, and passing around the jar, one of my friends commented on how pleased he was was his new socks.

We talk about some pretty weighty stuff.

Anyhow, he made the comment "They're Smart Wool". Which caused another of my cohorts to ask, "If it's so smart, how did it wind up as a pair of socks?"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 30, 2016 05:27 PM (ZO497)

102 82 $20M down the shitter...it's a Dem, all right.
Posted by: Gem at December 30, 2016 05:21 PM (uaHyk)

Not quite. The $20 million was his own money. Real Democrats waste/steal OUR money.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 30, 2016 05:27 PM (mbhDw)

103 Strike back. Hard. And just as unconstitutionally.

Require a background check on every single registered voter

Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2016 05:28 PM (/zHtF)

104 @ 91 But boys are suppose to enjoy it when exploited.
Posted by: Pepe
______

They do, and so do we!

Posted by: Muslim Males Everywhere at December 30, 2016 05:28 PM (77i7V)

105 Yeah sure, it's the customers and, above all, the pimps that you want to punish, but you have to be able to detain the minors.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille

It's similar to the old laws against suicide. They weren't intended to make someone think twice about it, they were a way to get them into the system where they could be helped.

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2016 05:28 PM (LAe3v)

106 I thought the law in Nevada was everybody must own 17 guns.
Posted by: R. DUKE
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That's Kennesaw, GA.

Which, btw, has a very low crime rate.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 30, 2016 05:28 PM (ZO497)

107
64 OT

Picked up my annual New Years cheese wedge of Stilton. Ten bucks worth! Go large or go home!
Posted by: Max Power at December 30, 2016 05:14 PM (q177U)

What, no Venezuelan Beaver cheese?

Posted by: John Cleese at December 30, 2016 05:29 PM (FtrY1)

108 70 If you follow that logic minors can't be guilty of assault, robbery or murder either...

Posted by: MAx at December 30, 2016 05:29 PM (/RZxG)

109 Ok, libtards, let me put ya some knowledge. In the revolutionary war there were two types of land soldier, Continental Regulars and militia. The militia was made up of ordinary people. The founders liked that as they had a fear of a large standing army. They wanted a well armed populace as they thought that was the best protection against tyranny so they put the right to bear arms in our founding document. Even back then they foresaw idiots like you and how best to block your tyrannical tendencies.

Oh, and at the time of the writing of the Bill do Rights, the musket WAS a military style weapon.

At least that's how I would explain it to a libtard. If I knew any. Which I don't. Which is nice.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 30, 2016 05:30 PM (kTF2Z)

110 Cali, where you can be a legal child prostitute, but don't think of buying cigarettes until you are 21.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 30, 2016 05:19 PM (6Ll1u)
.............

And the child prostitute is cheaper.

Posted by: wth at December 30, 2016 05:30 PM (HgMAr)

111 That's Kennesaw, GA.

Which, btw, has a very low crime rate.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 30, 2016 05:28 PM (ZO497)

Brian Dennehy was marvelous as Kennesaw Mountain.

Posted by: josephistan at December 30, 2016 05:30 PM (7qAYi)

112 Song for 2016:

Stevie Wonder -You Haven't Done Nothin'

Never realized what the song was about. Look up the lyrics. It's from 1974.

"And we are sick and tired of hearing your song

Telling how you are gonna change right from wrong

'Cause if you really want to hear our views

"You haven't done nothing"!"

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 30, 2016 05:31 PM (2crW4)

113 Bullshit. I've never heard of minors being arrested for prostitution. NEVER. Please prove me wrong on the scale where such a law should and would be enacted.

And that has nothing to do with the law in place. We all know it.

Posted by: Pepe at December 30, 2016 05:21 PM (HJEuH)

++++

The age of consent in California is 18. That means a runaway 16 y.o. out on the street peddling her ass is a minor engaged in prostitution. Of course, minors are covered by juvenile court, but they do get arrested and treated as offenders in that system. Or, they did. No more. Now they are victims instead of lawbreakers.

What CA did is stupid but many are twisting the facts to make it sound like they did something even stupider than what they did do. They did NOT legalize underage prostitution. By the way, the new law allows the cops to take the minor into protective custody for up to 72 hours, during which time, I assume, child services will get involved.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 30, 2016 05:31 PM (R+30W)

114 When a state passes a law allowing child prostitution, haven't the gun owners failed that state? Geez!

Posted by: Pepe at December 30, 2016 05:31 PM (HJEuH)

115 95 Preordered Milo's book just as a "s***w you" to the lefties. Hope he makes a fortune from it.
Posted by: Tuna
---------------

Did you just censor the phrase "screw you?"
Here?

Heck, I've even seen our Pastor say Fuck...

Posted by: Chi at December 30, 2016 05:32 PM (ifloA)

116 That's Kennesaw, GA.

Which, btw, has a very low crime rate.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 30, 2016 05:28 PM (ZO497)

==================

"Give us a minute. We'll figure out how to torture these numbers to say the exact opposite, print it on the front page in huge lettering, and then issue a correction on the bottom of page 16 four weeks later."
-The New York Times, today

"FAKE NEWS!"
-The New York Times, yesterday

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 30, 2016 05:32 PM (YSdvs)

117 95 Preordered Milo's book just as a "s***w you" to the lefties. Hope he makes a fortune from it.

Posted by: Tuna

I hope he get so rich he can conduct a hostile takeover of Twitter.

That would be epic.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 30, 2016 05:32 PM (oZEJt)

118
70 41 Nevada Dems have a ways to go to be as stupid as Cali Dems, they just legalized under age prostitutes here.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 30, 2016 05:08 PM (6Ll1u)

++++

If you follow the logic on that whole minors can't consent to sex it makes sense. If you can't blame the minor if money isn't changing hands, how can you hold them responsible if there is money involved? You see, they are the victim!

Underage prostitution is still illegal, and the johns and pimps are still criminals, but the minors are victims. And, how can you be in favor of arresting victims?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 30, 2016 05:18 PM (R+30W)

The thing that makes this so devastating is that law enforcement now has basically NO WAY to separate the underage prostitutes from their pimps/abusers. Taking them into custody via an arrest gets them into the system, where there are agencies that can get them out of the life.

Of course, in reality the system is pretty fucked up, but at least there is some small semblance of protection for the minor involved. Which is totally non-existent on the street.

A better way to handle it would seem to be to give juvenile court judges more leeway to dismiss those charges AFTER the minor is taken into custody and removed from the dangerous situation.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 30, 2016 05:32 PM (LuZz8)

119 Illegal alien who had been deported/removed from U.S. 19 prior times rapes a kid on a bus in Kansas.

We need to start sending these pukes to do some hard time in Gitmo, instead of just constantly sending them back to Mexico so they can cross right back into the U.S. the next day.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 30, 2016 05:32 PM (riF5p)

120 Oh, and at the time of the writing of the Bill do Rights, the musket WAS a military style weapon.

At least that's how I would explain it to a libtard. If I knew any. Which I don't. Which is nice.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 30, 2016 05:30 PM (kTF2Z)

People also forget that artillery (cannon) and warships were privately owned at the time.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 30, 2016 05:32 PM (0mRoj)

121 Did you just censor the phrase "screw you?"
Here?

Heck, I've even seen our Pastor say Fuck...
---

LOL. I thought it was some sort of new obscenity I didn't know about.

Could not solve the puzzle... hahahaha

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 30, 2016 05:33 PM (2crW4)

122 109 Oh, and at the time of the writing of the Bill do Rights, the musket WAS a military style weapon.

At least that's how I would explain it to a libtard. If I knew any. Which I don't. Which is nice.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 30, 2016 05:30 PM (kTF2Z)

===============

I like to use the, "the 1st amendment doesn't protect anything more advanced than a manual printing press" counter-factual.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 30, 2016 05:33 PM (YSdvs)

123 113 The result of this line of thinking is to empty out the juvenile halls, which are racist institutions because they have so many people of color.
The 16 year old that beat the shit out of that old lady is a victim, not a predator

Posted by: MAx at December 30, 2016 05:34 PM (/RZxG)

124 Picked up my annual New Years cheese wedge of Stilton. Ten bucks worth! Go large or go home!
Posted by: Max Power
--------------

Capital fellow!

http://preview.tinyurl.com/75fzrqx

Posted by: Wallace & Gromit at December 30, 2016 05:35 PM (ZO497)

125 How much of that was OPM solicited from useful idiot true believers and used for fun stuff like travel and conferences? It's not the effect, it's the "cause." Hell, if they were effective, they'd go out of business. GOP is gonna screw us the same way on Obamacare.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 30, 2016 05:35 PM (KQ97P)

126 In other amusing news, hackers are taken over the Bilderberger site:

http://bilderbergmeetings.org/

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 30, 2016 05:35 PM (2crW4)

127 For those interested, the actual CA bill regarding underage prostitution is here:

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/
billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160SB1322

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 30, 2016 05:36 PM (R+30W)

128 105
It's similar to the old laws against suicide. They weren't intended to make someone think twice about it, they were a way to get them into the system where they could be helped.
Posted by: pep at December 30, 2016 05:28 PM (LAe3v)
--------------------------------------
Exactly.
If the minor is not committing a crime, you have no legal way to detain them by force.

And if you make asking for help purely voluntary, how can these kids do it without incurring the wrath of the pimps?

This law may backfire horribly.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 30, 2016 05:36 PM (Nox3c)

129 The age of consent in California is 18. That means a runaway 16 y.o. out on the street peddling her ass is a minor engaged in prostitution. Of course, minors are covered by juvenile court, but they do get arrested and treated as offenders in that system. Or, they did. No more. Now they are victims instead of lawbreakers.

What CA did is stupid but many are twisting the facts to make it sound like they did something even stupider than what they did do. They did NOT legalize underage prostitution. By the way, the new law allows the cops to take the minor into protective custody for up to 72 hours, during which time, I assume, child services will get involved.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 30, 2016 05:31 PM (R+30W)

No they passed a law decriminalizing Child Prostitution. Plain and simple. The effects of that will not be good.

It will make catching the predators near impossible, the organizations trading in children harder to catch, it sends a message to children that it is ok, and opens up the flood gates for both at risk children and pedophiles to seek refuge from across the country.

California has one of the worst track records in the USA of protecting children. After this law passed it is the worst in North America.

Posted by: Pepe at December 30, 2016 05:36 PM (HJEuH)

130 I like to use the, "the 1st amendment doesn't protect anything more advanced than a manual printing press" counter-factual.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Ball point pens are out.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 30, 2016 05:36 PM (ZO497)

131 Ot, let me put my tin foil hat on. This drudge thing has part of me paranoid. What if this is like a test run for a post crisis/terror attack blackout of fake news?

We know they are dedperate and they think/fear Trump will do more to rollback globalism then even his biggest supporters hope. But they were scared of Reagan he didn't set them back that far either because he focused more on getting the economy then on destroying leftism politically

Posted by: Shiggz at December 30, 2016 05:37 PM (fNV6w)

132 "The stupid, it burns!"

Posted by: GuyfromNH at December 30, 2016 05:37 PM (75D/9)

133
101 If they're so superior, why the fuck are they so stupid?
----------
While we were sitting at a campfire, and passing around the jar, one of my friends commented on how pleased he was was his new socks.

We talk about some pretty weighty stuff.

Anyhow, he made the comment "They're Smart Wool". Which caused another of my cohorts to ask, "If it's so smart, how did it wind up as a pair of socks?"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 30, 2016 05:27 PM (ZO497)

To be fair, the SmartWool brand socks are fucking awesome. Damned things last forever.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 30, 2016 05:37 PM (LuZz8)

134 Cali, where you can be a legal child prostitute, but don't think of buying cigarettes until you are 21.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 30, 2016 05:19 PM (6Ll1u)
.............

And the child prostitute is cheaper.

-
And don't even think about buying a book.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 30, 2016 05:37 PM (Nwg0u)

135 Preordered Milo's book just as a "s***w you" to the lefties. Hope he makes a fortune from it.
Posted by: Tuna
*****
Me too! It's so awesome that he got a mainstream publisher too. He's our gay Andrew Breitbart. Andrew would be so proud of Milo.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 30, 2016 05:37 PM (6IPEM)

136 Anyone else have this thought?

Posted by: Shiggz at December 30, 2016 05:37 PM (fNV6w)

137 130 Ball point pens are out.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 30, 2016 05:36 PM (ZO497)

=================

Let's not even get started on paper with perforations on the side...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 30, 2016 05:37 PM (YSdvs)

138
Ball point pens are out.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 30, 2016 05:36 PM (ZO497)
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I'm an Eberhard-Faber man, myself.

Posted by: Weasel at December 30, 2016 05:38 PM (Sfs6o)

139 Bloomberg is welcome to spend his own money howsomever he likes. But he should know better than to try to deprive people of their rights. We don't cotton to that sort of rudeness.

Posted by: Eromero at December 30, 2016 05:38 PM (zLDYs)

140 Anyhow, he made the comment "They're Smart Wool". Which caused another of my cohorts to ask, "If it's so smart, how did it wind up as a pair of socks?"

'Cause you don't have to kill the donor to get it?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2016 05:38 PM (O7kBk)

141 Nevada Attorney General Adam Paul Laxalt

Eliminating federal funds to states.
They'll fix themselves. No more riots / no more exits.

Posted by: gNewt at December 30, 2016 05:38 PM (ykL1t)

142 What's to stop people
From abusing the system
To spy on neighbors?

Posted by: Haiku guy at December 30, 2016 05:38 PM (eR2aG)

143 >>>>>Oh, and at the time of the writing of the Bill do Rights, the musket WAS a military style weapon.

At least that's how I would explain it to a libtard. If I knew any. Which I don't. Which is nice.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 30, 2016 05:30 PM (kTF2Z)

People also forget that artillery (cannon) and warships were privately owned at the time.
.
.
.Yep. Benjamin Franklin purchased and outfitted a Privateer the Black Prince and got a Letter of Marque from Congress to go pirating against the English with it.

IIRC it had 26 cannon on it.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 30, 2016 05:39 PM (icl5y)

144 People also forget that artillery (cannon) and warships were privately owned at the time.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 30, 2016 05:32 PM (0mRoj)

That's my favorite argument to make to the ninnies. Blank states of shock and followed by the stuttering of the word but is the only response.

Posted by: Pepe at December 30, 2016 05:39 PM (HJEuH)

145 I'm an Eberhard-Faber man, myself.
Posted by: Weasel at December 30, 2016 05:38 PM (Sfs6o)

German brand. Obvious Nazi tell.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 30, 2016 05:40 PM (Om16U)

146 141 Nevada Attorney General Adam Paul Laxalt

Eliminating federal funds to states.
They'll fix themselves. No more riots / no more exits.

Posted by: gNewt at December 30, 2016 05:38 PM (ykL1t)

=====================

And then let's have the Senate populated by people chosen by state legislatures again.

States would no longer have financial incentives for certain things from the federal government and they would also have direct say in its doings again.

I like it...It'll never happen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 30, 2016 05:40 PM (YSdvs)

147 And what has Trump done this week that makes him one his favorites? I haven't been following his comments very closely.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 30, 2016 05:10 PM (tOcW/)

Sticking up for Israel, for one thing.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 30, 2016 05:40 PM (P8951)

148 In other amusing news, hackers are taken over the Bilderberger site:

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Well then where can I go to build a bear?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 30, 2016 05:40 PM (Nwg0u)

149

German brand. Obvious Nazi tell.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 30, 2016 05:40 PM (Om16U)
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And the Dixon Ticonderoga is not without merit!

Posted by: Weasel at December 30, 2016 05:41 PM (Sfs6o)

150 147 Sticking up for Israel, for one thing.
Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 30, 2016 05:40 PM (P8951)

==================

The fact that being in vocal support of Israel for our president is something to cheer instead of just expect is a sad state of affairs.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 30, 2016 05:41 PM (YSdvs)

151 What CA did is stupid but many are twisting the facts to make it sound like they did something even stupider than what they did do. They did NOT legalize underage prostitution. By the way, the new law allows the cops to take the minor into protective custody for up to 72 hours, during which time, I assume, child services will get involved.

Per JJ's link from this morning:

SB 1322 bars law enforcement from arresting sex workers who are under the age of 18 for soliciting or engaging in prostitution, or loitering with the intent to do so.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2016 05:42 PM (O7kBk)

152
Picked up my annual New Years cheese wedge of Stilton. Ten bucks worth! Go large or go home!
Posted by: Max Power
----------------

Dammit, now I'm craving a nice cheese plate & a bottle of red for the evening.

Guess I'll have to run up to the grocery store. Maybe I'll splurge & have the deli slice me slab of baloney for a fried sammich, too.

Posted by: Chi at December 30, 2016 05:42 PM (ifloA)

153 What CA did is stupid but many are twisting the facts to make it sound like they did something even stupider than what they did do. They did NOT legalize underage prostitution. By the way, the new law allows the cops to take the minor into protective custody for up to 72 hours, during which time, I assume, child services will get involved.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous
_______

I appreciate and agree with your analysis.

But . . . I'm through with being fair to leftists. Leftists knowingly misrepresent what we believe in order to gain power.

If we point out the superficial stupidity of the law, but leave out the balanced reasoning of why the law is not as stupid as it sounds, we may influence people to at least question leftist positions and make fun of the loons running California.

If we have to rassle the pig, we might as well get good and muddy.

Posted by: Furious George at December 30, 2016 05:42 PM (77i7V)

154 Bloomy won't miss it. The Trump rally, who he violently opposed, probably made him $50 million.

Posted by: The Other Guy at December 30, 2016 05:43 PM (hVnKJ)

155 We have a Fredo Ruling class.

They're SMART and want RESPECT!!!

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 30, 2016 05:43 PM (ZzZuq)

156 Don't try to confuse Pepe with the facts. He's all about the passion.

Posted by: Max Power at December 30, 2016 05:43 PM (q177U)

157 The new Cali law will end up just like all their other fucked up laws, it will backfire and make the problem worse. Then requiring a new law and more money to fix it, all just to make the problem even worse again.It's what they do, it's all they do.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 30, 2016 05:43 PM (6Ll1u)

158 If you're a Packers fan with fancy schmancy taste in cheese do you wear a Stilton Stetson?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 30, 2016 05:44 PM (mgbwf)

159 drudge down again ?

Posted by: E.T. at December 30, 2016 05:44 PM (9n0dl)

160 And the child prostitute is cheaper.

Posted by: wth at December 30, 2016 05:30 PM (HgMAr)

Until you start paying for those penicillin shots.

Posted by: The Other Guy at December 30, 2016 05:45 PM (hVnKJ)

161 Exactly.
If the minor is not committing a crime, you have no legal way to detain them by force.

And if you make asking for help purely voluntary, how can these kids do it without incurring the wrath of the pimps?

This law may backfire horribly.
---

The unknown consequences worry me as well.

What about the young people who might want to do this without a pimp.? If there are no consequences to their actions outside of "counseling" there will be those who decide that this is quick and easy way to make the Benjamins. And since oral sex isn't sex, well that makes it even easier.

I realize the majority of teens in the sex industry are victims. But not all.

This could also make it much easier for those who want access to underage boys and girls, since there is no longer the threat of "punishment" involved on the part of the prostitute.

/"murder is wrong, but you're under 18, so you'll just have counseling for a day or two, and then you'll be released."

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 30, 2016 05:46 PM (2crW4)

162 Hire better lawyers before you blow twenty million out your ear. You can pay for an expensive (but good) lawyer at the start--or you can just let your money dribble down your leg.

Posted by: Skeptical Voter at December 30, 2016 05:46 PM (Sda6L)

163 No they passed a law decriminalizing Child Prostitution. Plain and simple. The effects of that will not be good.

It will make catching the predators near impossible, the organizations trading in children harder to catch, it sends a message to children that it is ok, and opens up the flood gates for both at risk children and pedophiles to seek refuge from across the country.

California has one of the worst track records in the USA of protecting children. After this law passed it is the worst in North America.

Posted by: Pepe at December 30, 2016 05:36 PM (HJEuH)

++++

The statutory rape statutes are still on the books. All those involved with sex with a minor or facilitating sex with a minor are still prosecutable under those laws.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 30, 2016 05:46 PM (R+30W)

164 136 Anyone else have this thought?
Posted by: Shiggz at December 30, 2016 05:37 PM (fNV6w)

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If your thought was "I'd sure like a pizza and a beer" then yes.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 30, 2016 05:47 PM (kTF2Z)

165 @159

Looks like it. Pissing off the CIA head Mohammedan was not a good idea?

Posted by: The Other Guy at December 30, 2016 05:47 PM (hVnKJ)

166 President-elect Trump praised Russian President Vladimir Putin for not expelling any American diplomats in retaliation for President ~~Obama's~~ Petulant Pussy's expulsion of 35 Russians and new sanctions.

"Great move on delay (by V. Putin) - I always knew he was very smart," Trump said Friday.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 30, 2016 05:47 PM (Nwg0u)

167 drudge down again ?

Looks like someone is DOS'ing his DNS server.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 30, 2016 05:47 PM (IcT7t)

168 No matter how disastrous a lefty policy is, they blame its failure on stupid conservatives.
Every Obamafailure is evidence of conservative stupidity.

Posted by: Northernlurker at December 30, 2016 05:48 PM (hJrjt)

169 And why does NYC keep interfering in other states?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2016 05:48 PM (39g3+)

170 And why does NYC keep interfering in other states?

Because they're totalitarians, therefore, assholes by default.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 30, 2016 05:49 PM (IcT7t)

171 What about the young people who might want to do this without a pimp.? If there are no consequences to their actions outside of "counseling" there will be those who decide that this is quick and easy way to make the Benjamins. And since oral sex isn't sex, well that makes it even easier.

Sugar. Daddy.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2016 05:49 PM (O7kBk)

172 and a state initiative cannot boss a federal agency

But we're Democrats! We're all on the same side.

Posted by: Teh Leff at December 30, 2016 05:49 PM (/wWB4)

173 167 drudge down again ?

Looks like someone is DOS'ing his DNS server.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 30, 2016 05:47 PM (IcT7t)

Loaded for me.

Posted by: josephistan at December 30, 2016 05:50 PM (7qAYi)

174 New Yorkistan's infamous SAFE Act seems "enforceable" enough insofar as it's a deliberately annoying pain-in-the-ass effort to discourage and harass current and prospective lawful gun owners...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 30, 2016 05:50 PM (kP16F)

175 It's almost as if California is being run by criminal pedophiles.

/pizzagater

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 30, 2016 05:50 PM (Om16U)

176 Nebraska is getting cornholed in the Music City Bowl.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 30, 2016 05:51 PM (kTF2Z)

177 Obviously, the Good Intentions of the Bloombergians should overrule the law.

Y'know, like all the ways 'they' should just arbitrarily stop Trump, the duly-elected President Elect.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 30, 2016 05:51 PM (uz/Pv)

178 167 drudge down again ?

Looks like someone is DOS'ing his DNS server.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 30, 2016 05:47 PM (IcT7t)

Loaded for me.

Timed out for me at least three times this afternoon. After your post it works. You some kind of wizard?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 30, 2016 05:52 PM (IcT7t)

179 Really, Nevada? Nevada is one big, barren, shooting gallery. The state should really consider handing out complimentary firearms when you cross the state line.

Posted by: Fritz at December 30, 2016 05:52 PM (nrkHK)

180 It's almost as if California is being run by criminal pedophiles.

It won't be criminal much longer.

Posted by: California at December 30, 2016 05:52 PM (9Q5BJ)

181
Per JJ's link from this morning:

SB 1322 bars law enforcement from arresting sex workers who are under the age of 18 for soliciting or engaging in prostitution, or loitering with the intent to do so.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2016 05:42 PM (O7kBk)

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Yes, they have decided that since minors can't consent to sex, they can't consent to prostitution. So, they are not offenders, they are victims.

Why a minor should not be responsible if they engage in prostitution, but they are responsible if they steal, murder, rape, etc, is a mystery to me. But, that is the logic of "a child can't consent to sex".

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 30, 2016 05:52 PM (R+30W)

182 ew Yorkistan's infamous SAFE Act seems "enforceable" enough insofar as it's a deliberately annoying pain-in-the-ass effort to discourage and harass current and prospective lawful gun owners...

Isn't there some basic religious principle that negates laws created simply to be obnoxious, particularly about a basic constitutionally protected right?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2016 05:53 PM (39g3+)

183 drudge down again ?

Looks like someone is DOS'ing his DNS server.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 30, 2016 05:47 PM (IcT7t)

Loaded for me.

Timed out for me at least three times this afternoon. After your post it works. You some kind of wizard?

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Timing out for me, too.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 30, 2016 05:53 PM (Nwg0u)

184 Why a minor should not be responsible if they engage in prostitution, but they are responsible if they steal, murder, rape, etc, is a mystery to me.

Good point! Gotta decriminalize that, too.

Posted by: California at December 30, 2016 05:53 PM (9Q5BJ)

185 drudge loaded fine for me. just checked.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 30, 2016 05:54 PM (KP5rU)

186 drudge down again ?

Looks like someone is DOS'ing his DNS server.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 30, 2016 05:47 PM (IcT7t)

Loaded for me.

Timed out for me at least three times this afternoon. After your post it works. You some kind of wizard?

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Must be raining in Hawaii so Barky can't golf.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 30, 2016 05:54 PM (Nwg0u)

187 Michael Bloomberg should stick to salt and soda.

And big fat Bag 'O Dicks......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 30, 2016 05:55 PM (5VlCp)

188 163 No they passed a law decriminalizing Child Prostitution. Plain and simple. The effects of that will not be good.

It will make catching the predators near impossible, the organizations trading in children harder to catch, it sends a message to children that it is ok, and opens up the flood gates for both at risk children and pedophiles to seek refuge from across the country.

California has one of the worst track records in the USA of protecting children. After this law passed it is the worst in North America.

Posted by: Pepe at December 30, 2016 05:36 PM (HJEuH)

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The statutory rape statutes are still on the books. All those involved with sex with a minor or facilitating sex with a minor are still prosecutable under those laws.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 30, 2016 05:46 PM (R+30W)

If Child Prostitution is not a crime, then how will courts be able to legally perform searches, seizures, and surveillance to prosecute others? How will they be able to get the kids off the streets and get help?

You failed to address how this law will be exploited t turn California into a safe haven for child sex trafficking, and sex tourism for pedophiles. Or how it sends the message to children that sex for money or Sex with adults is ok and legal so they refuse to seek help or report it, this making it all that more difficult for children being abused and exploited to come forward.

Posted by: Pepe at December 30, 2016 05:56 PM (HJEuH)

189 i thought bloomberg was the original bag o dicks. wasn't he the prototype or something?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 30, 2016 05:57 PM (KP5rU)

190 Well, it is California. This is the state that demands that livestock owners reduced methane emissions from cows 40% by 2030. A bill that Jerry Brown signed into law. Talk about a dirty job. How much you going to pay some guy to stick a hose up some cows ass? And how are the going to keep it in? One good cow patty and it clogs up the whole shebang.

Posted by: Deplorable Old Blue at December 30, 2016 05:57 PM (9iR5/)

191 181
Per JJ's link from this morning:

SB 1322 bars law enforcement from arresting sex workers who are under the age of 18 for soliciting or engaging in prostitution, or loitering with the intent to do so.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2016 05:42 PM (O7kBk)

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Yes, they have decided that since minors can't consent to sex, they can't consent to prostitution. So, they are not offenders, they are victims.

Why a minor should not be responsible if they engage in prostitution, but they are responsible if they steal, murder, rape, etc, is a mystery to me. But, that is the logic of "a child can't consent to sex".

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 30, 2016 05:52 PM (R+30W)

Again that's bull shit because minors are never charged with prostitution. NEVER. Or certainly not enough to warrent a change in the law under the guise of protection.

Posted by: Pepe at December 30, 2016 05:58 PM (HJEuH)

192 185 drudge loaded fine for me. just checked.
Posted by: chavez the hugo
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Curses! Foiled again!

Posted by: John Brennan, Devout Mahometan at December 30, 2016 05:59 PM (77i7V)

193 klownifornia cannot be saved. it is mexico now. i hope the illegals invade malibu, beverly hills, marin county, rodeo drive, etc. wait til the proggies have them for neighbors.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 30, 2016 06:00 PM (KP5rU)

194 Again that's bull shit because minors are never charged with
prostitution. NEVER. Or certainly not enough to warrent a change in the
law under the guise of protection.

Lighten up, Francis. Also, you seem to be confused about the word NEVER.

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2016 06:00 PM (LAe3v)

195
SB 1322 bars law enforcement from arresting sex workers who are under the age of 18 for soliciting or engaging in prostitution, or loitering with the intent to do so.Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2016 05:42 PM (O7kBk)

A large percentage of under age prostitutes here in Ca are in this country iilegally if you arrest them they are then criminal aliens and deportable.I think that's what this law is all about.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 30, 2016 06:00 PM (lKyWE)

196 Nood fake noos.

Posted by: fly gal at December 30, 2016 06:01 PM (8TdcF)

197 Why a minor should not be responsible if they engage in prostitution, but they are responsible if they steal, murder, rape, etc, is a mystery to me.

Although on extremely rare occasions some young person will hook on their own by their own volition, its almost always that they are forced into it by someone else, basically a slave. Which is the difference; nobody is out there Fabian-style forcing kids to shoplift, murder, rape, etc. But there are plenty of people forcing kids to hook.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2016 06:01 PM (39g3+)

198 Benjamin Franklin purchased and outfitted a Privateer the Black Prince and got a Letter of Marque from Congress to go pirating against the English with it.

IIRC it had 26 cannon on it.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 30, 2016 05:39 PM (icl5y)

I would buy the collectors edition of that video game!!!!!

Posted by: Shiggz at December 30, 2016 06:02 PM (fNV6w)

199 @109- Duke
Someone may have chimed in on this already but there were a fair amount of militia (that's pretty much all of us for those keeping score at home) who were armed better than the army regulars.
Instead of smooth bore muskets some of g he militia carried their personal rifles.
Much more accurate.

Posted by: teej at December 30, 2016 06:03 PM (gJ3Vg)

200 I'm glad Bloomberg continues to flush his money done the toilet. He's yet another insufferable asshat liberal who thinks IQ points come with money.

I especially like the money he wastes on pretending Shannon Watts wouldn't be more use as an HR manager for a call center in Rochester.

Posted by: Azathoth at December 30, 2016 06:06 PM (XN0hD)

201 If Child Prostitution is not a crime, then how will courts be able to legally perform searches, seizures, and surveillance to prosecute others? How will they be able to get the kids off the streets and get help?

You failed to address how this law will be exploited t turn California into a safe haven for child sex trafficking, and sex tourism for pedophiles. Or how it sends the message to children that sex for money or Sex with adults is ok and legal so they refuse to seek help or report it, this making it all that more difficult for children being abused and exploited to come forward.

Posted by: Pepe at December 30, 2016 05:56 PM (HJEuH)

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Statutory rape is still a crime. All the state's law enforcement tools are available to it for investigating and enforcing those laws.

And though there are many legitimate criticisms regarding this law, I could give a shit about "messaging". Minors who are engaged in prostitution didn't get there because of any message the state did or did not send with its laws. I would like to meet the minor who is willing to prostitute him or herself based on messages they received from this law. There ain't no such people.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 30, 2016 06:08 PM (R+30W)

202 I am so happy that stupid ass spends his money like he was renting beer.

Posted by: Gmac - 'All politics in this country now is dress-rehearsal for civil war' at December 30, 2016 06:10 PM (TaCba)

203 Again that's bull shit because minors are never charged with prostitution. NEVER. Or certainly not enough to warrent a change in the law under the guise of protection.

Posted by: Pepe at December 30, 2016 05:58 PM (HJEuH)

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How about some facts? Would that help? Let me put some knowledge into you.

Police in these states can-and do-arrest and jail children for "prostitution." A total of 656 children were arrested for this crime nationwide in 2013, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. That number is undoubtedly higher, since police departments voluntarily submit arrest data and about 20 percent of departments choose not to report.

An exclusive Fusion analysis of FBI data found that California arrested the most child sex trafficking victims of any state in 2013, making 205 arrests. The city with the highest number of child arrests for "prostitution" that year was Las Vegas with 98 arrests. One child under 10 years old was arrested in Minneapolis in 2013, according to FBI data.

http://fusion.net/story/256812/police-arrest-children-prostitution/

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 30, 2016 06:13 PM (R+30W)

204 One going away present that Trump really needs to give to Harry Reid - reopen the strategic nuclear dump in Nevada that Reid blocked, and get our nations nuclear industry back on track.

It's good policy, and the fact that it will piss the hell out of the Nevada establishment will just be icing on the cake.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 30, 2016 06:21 PM (Mb+1L)

205 Oh, and at the time of the writing of the Bill do Rights, the musket WAS a military style weapon.

At least that's how I would explain it to a libtard. If I knew any. Which I don't. Which is nice.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

And cannon were routinely privately owned and operated.

Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2016 06:40 PM (2RVmA)

206 purpose

to be willowed
after or just before
the nude

-- be here all week, tips for the girls and the band

Posted by: micky at December 30, 2016 06:40 PM (o5vMc)

207 What bothers me about the California law is that when the children are arrested for prostitution, it is simply a way to get to the adults who are exploiting them. I am very familiar with the system (having worked with offenders) and the arrest of the minor is often times a method to get the people (usually a family member) who was exploiting them. It is also a way of getting them away from the person abusing them. I read this law and I am very concerned about the wording regarding law enforcement's ability to detain them. 72 hours sounds like a lot but it is not and when you add that to the paperwork involved in juveniles and mental health (which is what this falls under now) many are not going to bother. That means that victims are going to fall through the cracks easier. I don't think this protects the child; I think it puts them at greater risk.

Posted by: lightning at December 30, 2016 06:44 PM (pwONV)

208 There is a new lawsuit saying that the Nevada Bloomberd initiative is a violation of the state constitution by creating a "taxable event" and violate the seller's or transferer's right to due process.

http://bit.ly/2iO3uUf

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 30, 2016 08:35 PM (vBeA5)

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