Tuesday Overnight Open Thread (12/20/16)

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On this day in history, 1963, the Berlin Wall is opened for the first time.

More than two years after the Berlin Wall was constructed by East Germany to prevent its citizens from fleeing its communist regime, nearly 4,000 West Berliners are allowed to cross into East Berlin to visit relatives. Under an agreement reached between East and West Berlin, over 170,000 passes were eventually issued to West Berlin citizens, each pass allowing a one-day visit to communist East Berlin.


Quotes of The Day

Quote I

The fall of the Berlin Wall makes for nice pictures. But it all started in the shipyards. Lech Walesa

Quote II

Fall of the Berlin wall? Being there was fun. Nations that flaked off of the Soviet Union in southeastern Europe, Central Asia, and the Caucasus? Being there was not so fun. P. J. O'Rourke

Quote III

General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization, come here to this gate.
Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate!
Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall! President Ronald Reagan

Quote IV

Ronald Reagan will be remembered for leading the United States during a time of tremendous international transition - the demise of the Soviet Union, the Berlin Wall coming down, and the end of the Cold War. Mary Landrieu

Busy day on the calendar tomorrow, December 21st.

The first one is National Urban Outdoorsmen Homeless Persons Remembrance Day.

Local groups across the country are encouraged first to determine the number of homeless persons in their community who died in the previous year and then arrange a ceremony to remember them. Candlelight marches, vigils, graveside services, plays and performances, religious services, and public policy advocacy are the suggested ways of remembering. Some groups have read publicly a list of names of the deceased. Use #HomelessPersons’RemembranceDay to post on social media.

Feelings, nothing more than feelings.


Many of the homeless are alcoholics, drug users/abusers and those with mental illness. A recent study reveals that there are casual links between marijuana and schizophrenia.

Summary:
People who have a greater risk of developing schizophrenia are more likely to try cannabis, according to new research, which also found a causal link between trying the drug and an increased risk of the condition.


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The second big event tomorrow on December 21st is the December/Winter Solstice. Day light will be increasing ever so minutely. Although by the time February rolls around it will be noticeable. Not sure where you are located but your humble Cob has already has had his share of "winter" weather.


You hear about women and the glass ceiling. How about women and the glass autopsy table? Equal occupational fatality day will be on February 19, 2027.

Groups like the NCPE use “Equal Pay Day” to promote a goal of perfect gender pay equity, probably not realizing that they are simultaneously advocating an increase in the number of women working in higher-paying, but higher-risk occupations like fire-fighting, roofing, construction, farming, and coal mining. The reality is that a reduction in the gender pay gap would come at a huge cost: several thousand more women will be killed each year working in dangerous occupations.


Tonight's Musical Interlude


Australia, The Land Down Under. Home of the kangaroo, Foster's Beer and a boatload of poisonous snakes. They like to hang out on Christmas trees. Not The ONT's idea of tinsel. h/t CBD

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Do you like to drink beer? Do you make beer? Everything you wanted to know about beer styles. (Really cool interactive table)

The Beer Judge Certification Program lists 100 styles with defined ranges of alcohol by volume (ABV), bitterness (measured in IBUs, or International Bittering Units), and color (measured using SRM, or Standard Reference Method).

Below is a series of charts for all 100 styles. Mouseover any style for more details and commercial examples. Rectangles to the top right corner represent beer that is high in alcohol and high in bitterness. In contrast, a rectangle in the bottom left corner represents a beer that is low in alcohol and low in bitterness.


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Loose lips sink ships or Genius Award Winners


There are still some decent kids in the world. Today's Feel Good Story of The Day.


Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Regret:

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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 10:03 PM




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1 Howdy, y'all!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 09:59 PM (EzgxV)

2 Beautiful winter pictures between schizophrenia and solstice has a glitch in the link.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 10:01 PM (EzgxV)

3 My favorite brand name for a barley wine is "Old Inventory."

Posted by: Splunge at December 20, 2016 10:01 PM (iMxBJ)

4 On the money.

Posted by: gNewt at December 20, 2016 10:01 PM (FS/ip)

5 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 10:02 PM (IcT7t)

6 Top 10?

Posted by: The Deplorable Boomer Redneque at December 20, 2016 10:02 PM (+4NT5)

7 Si se puede!

Posted by: Juan at December 20, 2016 10:02 PM (wCEn4)

8 YES!

Evenin', all

Posted by: The Deplorable Boomer Redneque at December 20, 2016 10:02 PM (+4NT5)

9 Obama countdown clock is at 30 days, 13 hours.

Posted by: Splunge at December 20, 2016 10:03 PM (iMxBJ)

10 Damn content!

Posted by: Juan at December 20, 2016 10:03 PM (wCEn4)

11 That snake looks like it might be a Death Adder. WTF?

Posted by: otho at December 20, 2016 10:03 PM (lmIoG)

12 beautiful winter pictures (

0.5 Minx strikes again.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 20, 2016 10:03 PM (ZBp8/)

13 CONTENT!

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 10:03 PM (tHwdc)

14 Prome Queen? Makes for good reading material whilst your (heh) back their.

Posted by: Pecan Scandi at December 20, 2016 10:04 PM (HgwbI)

15 Whole family's sniffling due to the cold Eldest Kid brought home from college. Having a collegian come home for vacation is like having a kindergartener again (in many respects).

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 20, 2016 10:05 PM (Gv1ao)

16 Interestingly, there are no snakes in New Zealand.

Posted by: josephistan at December 20, 2016 10:05 PM (7qAYi)

17 Interestingly, there are no snakes in New Zealand.

Barristers fill that ecological niche.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 10:06 PM (IcT7t)

18 Schizophrenia is generally attributed to genetic factors. I'm not an advocate of the wacky weed but I can't imagine a connection between consumption and the manifestation of psychosis.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 20, 2016 10:07 PM (n3MnG)

19 Top ten?

Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 20, 2016 10:07 PM (D2vc1)

20 That's what I get for reading some content.

Evening all.

Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 20, 2016 10:07 PM (D2vc1)

21 National Homeless Persons Remembrance Day.

The Halley's Comet of days because it was last observed in 2007.

Posted by: t-bird at December 20, 2016 10:08 PM (eeTCA)

22 Posted with permission by AceCorp, LLC. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) ONT standards do not require Ace to label The ONT with instructions and warnings"

In that case, it is OK to taunt Happy Fun Ball now.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 20, 2016 10:08 PM (P8951)

23 Someone should tell Mary Landrieu that H.W. Bush was President when the Berlin Wall came down and Clinton was President when the Soviets finally collapsed.

Of course, Reagan brought their downfall.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac and Irredeemable at December 20, 2016 10:08 PM (1JnAL)

24 "Prome Queen?"

I'm almost tempted to see if Urban Dictionary has an entry for "Prome".

Almost.

Posted by: mikeski at December 20, 2016 10:10 PM (lO+tS)

25

The US has a problem with people having no home of their own? Seriously?

Posted by: Bob the Credulous at December 20, 2016 10:10 PM (8Za1F)

26 12 beautiful winter pictures (

0.5 Minx strikes again.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 20, 2016 10:03 PM (ZBp8/)


Mine says we're up to 0.7, but surely there's a rev after that because the spacing between paragraphs and newlines is a lot more predictable, lately.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 10:10 PM (EzgxV)

27 24. Obvious typo for prone.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 20, 2016 10:11 PM (FUMmy)

28 17 Interestingly, there are no snakes in New Zealand.

Barristers fill that ecological niche.

OZ got first choice

Posted by: tmitsss at December 20, 2016 10:11 PM (xlzu7)

29 Erev tov lekholam...

Posted by: Zettai Ryōiki at December 20, 2016 10:11 PM (kP16F)

30
Many of the homeless are alcoholics, drug users/abusers and those with mental illness. A recent study reveals that there are casual links between marijuana and schizophrenia.
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No fancy links for those homeless folks, nuh uh. They like to keep things casual.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 20, 2016 10:12 PM (EZebt)

31 Thank you, MisHum, for another glorious ONT full of ripe, juicy, luscious content -- that I am off to devour.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 10:12 PM (EzgxV)

32 Oh, no! Pixy's automated smiley face with sunglasses sabotages a photo insert!

Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2016 10:12 PM (lJXY3)

33 You can have both genetic factors and "environmental". I've got this damnable rheumatoid arthritis for example. There's a genetic component. They haven't gotten it exactly pinned down, but they see various genetic variations.

But it by itself, that won't trigger it. It takes some environmental trigger. It's something, some antigen of sorts, something that gets the immune system fired up in a specific way, which the genetic screw-up then causes said immune system to start attacking one's own tissue in the joints.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 10:12 PM (DW+jj)

34 "Urban Outdoorsmen" - I like that!

In Goteborg, Sweden, I saw more urban outdoorsmen than I'd ever seen in the US. Keep in mind that they have deliberately uncoupled themselves from the tender mercies of the State, which would gladly "take care" of them. They choose not be be cared for.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 10:12 PM (tHwdc)

35
As with most tattoos, I'm sure they seemed like a good idea at the time.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Elector Set (Suck It, Celebs!) at December 20, 2016 10:14 PM (BK3ZS)

36 Mine says we're up to 0.7, but surely there's a rev after that because the spacing between paragraphs and newlines is a lot more predictable, lately.
Posted by: cthulhu


Don't call me Shirley.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 20, 2016 10:14 PM (ZBp8/)

37 Just about to check for Russian Imperial Stout on the alcohol/bitterness measure. If I'm not back in 10 minutes, send out a search party.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2016 10:14 PM (lJXY3)

38 I never had a shot at the HS prom queen, but I think I could talk this gal into anything.

Of course, prom queens these days may come with dangling attachments that would preclude my interest.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 20, 2016 10:14 PM (oZEJt)

39 "People who have a greater risk of developing schizophrenia are more
likely to try cannabis, according to new research, which also found a
causal link between trying the drug and an increased risk of the
condition."


Is this why I like to use socks on the HQ? Like Mrs. Bill Wynn?


<exhales and coughs>



Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 10:14 PM (tHwdc)

40 Hey cooth.

Hi Miley.

Posted by: SMFH at December 20, 2016 10:14 PM (CRotO)

41 34. I'd like to think that any society would always maintain a certain tolerance for vagabonds, nomads, etc. Not indulgence, understand, but tolerance.

But sleeping rough in Sweden in the winter....tough isn't an adequate descriptor.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 20, 2016 10:16 PM (FUMmy)

42
Personally, I've never smoked pot. I was told it was bad, and I believed it.

I was also told to never drive while intoxicated.

Posted by: Bob the Credulous at December 20, 2016 10:17 PM (8Za1F)

43 12 Posts of Christmas, 2016 (Day

Fake Santas make Kitteh mad.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=12819

Posted by: Santa's Hat at December 20, 2016 10:17 PM (vBeA5)

44 And This Is Why Fembots Will Be Invented

Feminists angered at gynoid robots, and Social Justice Warriors angered about sexist men oppressing robots by daring to "gender them", however, is not science-fiction, but rather the basis of the peer-reviewed academic paper "Gendering Humanoid Robots: Robo-Sexism in Japan" by Jennifer Robertson.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=12866

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 20, 2016 10:17 PM (vBeA5)

45 Got the ham today.

9.5lbs+, $15 bucks. ( fat cap evident. )

Extra honey purchased.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 20, 2016 10:17 PM (ZBp8/)

46 Aaaaah... Tiger Snake. That makes more sense.

Posted by: otho at December 20, 2016 10:17 PM (lmIoG)

47 There is a new winter photo up. Not sure what happened with the original one. It all looked good on the practice run

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 20, 2016 10:17 PM (voOPb)

48 I suspect we'll be seeing much more of the "homeless" after Trump's inauguration...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 20, 2016 10:17 PM (kP16F)

49 I had lots of "casual links" in college. They were the best kind.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 20, 2016 10:18 PM (TJx8f)

50 "over 170,000 passes were eventually issued to West Berlin citizens, each pass allowing a one-day visit to communist East Berlin."

And just how many "passes" were issued to "East Berliners" to visit the west?

I mean, like "Run Away!!!"

You know , like without getting machine-gunned and shit, like before...

Posted by: ChrisP at December 20, 2016 10:18 PM (UEauu)

51 Beautiful winter picture here:

https://tinyurl.com/gqzrlvs

Posted by: t-bird at December 20, 2016 10:18 PM (8zL5i)

52
The beautiful winter photos link is a trap -- it's YokoFest!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Elector Set (Suck It, Celebs!) at December 20, 2016 10:18 PM (BK3ZS)

53 Prome Queen is a fifteen minute cover up fix. The e just becomes a flower or a heart.

The other one will take a little more work.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 20, 2016 10:18 PM (IDPbH)

54 45 Got the ham today.

9.5lbs+, $15 bucks. ( fat cap evident. )

Extra honey purchased.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 20, 2016 10:17 PM (ZBp8/)
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Is this when we start bitching about ketchup?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 20, 2016 10:19 PM (EZebt)

55

The new picture is obviously from the Blue Period, perhaps that is Blue Bayou that Linda Ronstadt sings about.

Posted by: Bob the Credulous at December 20, 2016 10:20 PM (8Za1F)

56 17 Interestingly, there are no snakes in New Zealand.



Barristers fill that ecological niche.


I'd take the snakes, any day. Hell, throw in some scorpions too, and I hate scorpions.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 20, 2016 10:20 PM (oZEJt)

57 And Russian Imperial Stout barely beaten out by American Strong Ale and American Barleywine.

I've never heard of Barleywines before; and I didn't know Strong Ale was a classification contrasted with just being a high-alcohol ale when I had heard the phrase "strong ale" used before.

Very interestink.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2016 10:21 PM (lJXY3)

58 I just saw this an hour ago. A ripping good story by Matt Bracken:

http://gatesofvienna.net/2016/12/bastille-day-in-the-caliphate/

Apparently it's an excerpt from a new novel.

Posted by: rickl at December 20, 2016 10:21 PM (sdi6R)

59 40 Hey cooth.

Hi Miley.

Posted by: SMFH at December 20, 2016 10:14 PM (CRotO)



Hiya. Sorry I hit the wrong building (if, indeed, the other one would have been the "right" building). Can't get back up there this week.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 10:21 PM (EzgxV)

60 I have a fall of the Berlin Wall story. I had been through it and into East Berlin in 1980 and 1984. When Reagan gave his "tear down this wall" speech I thought it was just political posturing.

Yeah, so I was wrong.

The Wall came down in November '89. I was there in December. Street vendors were selling chips from the wall with hand-stamped certificates of authenticity.

I wanted a piece, but I wanted my own. I negotiated with one of the vendors to use his hammer and chisel so I could get my own pieces.

I'll tell you, if the commies were good at anything they could make concrete. I got a few interesting shards but that was really freaking hard concrete.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 20, 2016 10:21 PM (mgbwf)

61 Meh. Had to check in.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, far from home at December 20, 2016 10:21 PM (hTIYb)

62 NNNNYEARGH. Mmmmmm

That was good. Have one of the Stark wenches fix me a sammich.

Posted by: Winter at December 20, 2016 10:21 PM (z/Ubi)

63 Causal, casual. Tomayto, tomahto.

The causal link is just a casual one.

The causality resulted in casualties.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 10:22 PM (DW+jj)

64 At this time last year, I was homeless. I also had no ID, my wallet was stolen and I had lost everything else. Without ID you can not travel (I lived in Hawaii at the time). You can not get assistance or a job. It took me over six months to finally get an ID and then get my life started again.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 20, 2016 10:22 PM (1aDmL)

65 misspelled tattoo's must be annoying to the buyer. assuming you even wanted a tattoo in the first place, I mean.

Posted by: MTF at December 20, 2016 10:22 PM (X4ZNp)

66 If the Horde ran a crisis hotline this is how it would go

https://twitter.com/realmyiq2xu2/status/811406589831749632

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at December 20, 2016 10:22 PM (Om16U)

67 Who's going to divorce first mooch or Clinton?

Posted by: James the worst of the deplorable at December 20, 2016 10:22 PM (jxw6R)

68 I was on staff duty, manning the phones at 3rd Brigade, 3rd ID in Aschaffenburg, FRG, the night wall fell. Watched the live feed on the TV, Germans dancing on the wall and smashing it with sledge hammers.

It was an odd experience, since just that previous March I had been in East Berlin with my wife, infant son and our friends. Had little idea just how close to the end the DDR was.

I guess I was on the other end of the pointy end of the spear. Still, a really fucking cool moment.

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at December 20, 2016 10:23 PM (1oVdo)

69 Mrs Bill Wynn.
Mrs Glen Wynn-Beck.
Mrs Glen Wynn.
[sigh]

Posted by: glen beck at December 20, 2016 10:23 PM (lJXY3)

70 How do you know that it's still 2016?

Virgin Mary is now "rape culture"...

http://wapo.st/2idBgSk

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 20, 2016 10:23 PM (vBeA5)

71 The fall of the wall. I was at my grandfather's house - whole clan was there. There wasn't a dry eye in the whole house.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 20, 2016 10:23 PM (FUMmy)

72
Most honest tramp stamp is "You're Not The First"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Elector Set (Suck It, Celebs!) at December 20, 2016 10:23 PM (BK3ZS)

73 The Wall came down in November '89. I was there in December. Street vendors were selling chips from the wall with hand-stamped certificates of authenticity.

I was in Germany at the time, but not Berlin. Still managed to get a chip. They were selling 'em at every little fest in the west.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 10:23 PM (IcT7t)

74 Scott Walker is on Hannity with Eric Bolling.

Remember when Scott Walker was a thing? I laugh at the thought, now.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 10:24 PM (DW+jj)

75 Without ID you can not travel (I lived in Hawaii at the time). You can not get assistance or a job. It took me over six months to finally get an ID and then get my life started again.
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I never thought of that.

Congrats on getting your life back in gear and avoiding Ace in the wild.

Posted by: MTF at December 20, 2016 10:24 PM (X4ZNp)

76 56 17 Interestingly, there are no snakes in New Zealand.



Barristers fill that ecological niche.

I'd take the snakes, any day. Hell, throw in some scorpions too, and I hate scorpions.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 20, 2016 10:20 PM (oZEJt)



OTOH, NZ has carnivorous parrots that attack sheep. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kea

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 10:24 PM (EzgxV)

77 "You are leaving the American sector"

Is that the sign to those entering California?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2016 10:24 PM (SRKgf)

78 Where would the Muzzies go if the wall were still up?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 20, 2016 10:25 PM (IqV8l)

79 Tell me something, who the hell is Bill Wynn?

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 10:25 PM (DW+jj)

80 Hiya. Sorry I hit the wrong building (if, indeed, the other one would have been the "right" building). Can't get back up there this week.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 10:21 PM (EzgxV)

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It's ok.

Considering the time of the year, you'd be lucky to find anyone at work.

Posted by: SMFH at December 20, 2016 10:25 PM (CRotO)

81 Tell me something, who the hell is Bill Wynn?

--

The guy from Vegas? With the Casino?

Posted by: Bob the Credulous at December 20, 2016 10:25 PM (8Za1F)

82 Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 20, 2016 10:22 PM (1aDmL)

I'm glad you have started your life again and wish you the best. But I must ask why six months to get an ID? Did you not know the process?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 20, 2016 10:26 PM (IDPbH)

83 Interestingly, there are no snakes in New Zealand.

Posted by: josephistan
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It's only a matter of time.

Posted by: Racoons in Europe at December 20, 2016 10:26 PM (hTIYb)

84 73. My favorite uncle booked a flight and got us all a hunk. Still have mine. Had a lapidarist cut it in half and made two paperweights out of it. Date and description on the bottom, for future generations. The world seemed so hopeful if unbalanced just then.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 20, 2016 10:26 PM (FUMmy)

85 I'm assuming there are plenty here who aren't old enough to remember Reagan's "tear down this wall moment". I was 28; Reagan was in the last six months or so of his 2nd term. The story with the Russians was how well Reagan and Gorbachev seemed to be getting along. For someone of my age the Berlin Wall was simply a fact of life, like the Grand Canyon or Lake Michigan. And now this evidently senile Reagan was standing in front of it and calling for it to be torn down?

Yeah, I never voted for Reagan. But twenty years later I shed tears at his death and prayed we might someday see his like again.

Posted by: vertov at December 20, 2016 10:27 PM (QReAN)

86 The Wall came down in November '89. I was there in December. Street vendors were selling chips from the wall with hand-stamped certificates of authenticity.

I wanted a piece, but I wanted my own. I negotiated with one of the vendors to use his hammer and chisel so I could get my own pieces.

I'll tell you, if the commies were good at anything they could make concrete. I got a few interesting shards but that was really freaking hard concrete.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 20, 2016 10:21 PM (mgbwf)
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Bander! I was there in early January with my husband, on our honeymoon! We actually honeymooned in London, but when the wall started coming down in November we added in a side trip to Berlin for a few days, and stayed with friends of my parents in West Berlin. They gave us a pickax, and off we went to the wall. My husband was able to get some big chunks of it - we came home with a bag full. We've given it to family and friends. We're weird like that.

Posted by: bluebell at December 20, 2016 10:27 PM (sBOL1)

87 74 Scott Walker is on Hannity with Eric Bolling.

Remember when Scott Walker was a thing? I laugh at the thought, now.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 10:24 PM (DW+jj)

He still is here.
Perhaps not nationally
But he's a damn fine innovative governor I would put up against any gov

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 20, 2016 10:27 PM (voOPb)

88 >> The guy from Vegas? With the Casino?

That's Steve Wynn.

There's some "Bill Wynn" sock that posts RINO/Never Trump crap here, and I'm wondering if that's supposed to be a sarcastic sock, or if it's serious. And if either, who the hell is it? Google turns up nothing obvious.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 10:27 PM (DW+jj)

89 The Wall came down in November '89. I was there in December. Street vendors were selling chips from the wall with hand-stamped certificates of authenticity.


I was there in September '89.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2016 10:27 PM (SRKgf)

90 Clayton Cramer has an amusing video up about voter id. The guy in the video first visits college campuses to see what the people there think about voter id laws. Unsurprisingly, they think the laws are racist because Black people have trouble figuring out how to get id. Then he went to Harlem to see what the Black people there had to say.

http://claytonecramer.blogspot.com/2016/12/always-
fun-to-watch-how-little-white.html

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 20, 2016 10:28 PM (R+30W)

91 I still have a tourist map that explicitly warns that it is NOT to be taken into East Germany.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, far from home at December 20, 2016 10:28 PM (hTIYb)

92 64 At this time last year, I was homeless. I also had no ID, my wallet was stolen and I had lost everything else. Without ID you can not travel (I lived in Hawaii at the time). You can not get assistance or a job. It took me over six months to finally get an ID and then get my life started again.
Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 20, 2016 10:22 PM (1aDmL)
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Do you smoke lots of weed?
Do you have schizophrenic disorders?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 20, 2016 10:28 PM (EZebt)

93 82. In most places, you need a verifiable physical address to get ID. That, in turn, requires income for rent, utilities, etc., to demonstrate that you reside there. It's a chicken and egg problem.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 20, 2016 10:28 PM (FUMmy)

94 Okay, first, take over a country. Second, make yourself Queen. Third, change the name to Prome. All good!

Posted by: JB1000 at December 20, 2016 10:29 PM (P0Yu4)

95 But he's a damn fine innovative governor I would put up against any gov

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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Same thing I said about McCrory in NC, but the Dem bastards got him anyhow.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, far from home at December 20, 2016 10:29 PM (hTIYb)

96 Was that a USDA Prime Queen?

Guess that inspector was grading on the curves.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 20, 2016 10:30 PM (v5iqM)

97 At this time last year, I was homeless. I also had no ID, my wallet was stolen and I had lost everything else. Without ID you can not travel (I lived in Hawaii at the time). You can not get assistance or a job. It took me over six months to finally get an ID and then get my life started again.
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But you could probably still vote.

Posted by: Chuck C at December 20, 2016 10:30 PM (h99GH)

98 Hey everybody.

Mmmmmm, pastrami pilsner!! :-P

"Any Food Can Be Turned Into Beer"

http://www.popularmechanics.com/home/food-drink/a24360/food-beer-good/

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2016 10:30 PM (u8kLQ)

99 In most places, you need a verifiable physical address to get ID.

"Mailboxes R US". Sell a couple bottles of plasma for cash, rent a mailbox. Get a driver's license.

Posted by: Bob the Credulous at December 20, 2016 10:30 PM (8Za1F)

100 In most places, you need a verifiable physical address to get ID. That, in turn, requires income for rent, utilities, etc., to demonstrate that you reside there. It's a chicken and egg problem.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 20, 2016 10:28 PM (FUMmy)

I think most places require just a birth certificate. I know you guys aren't making the Left's case against Voter ID .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 20, 2016 10:30 PM (IDPbH)

101 85 I'm assuming there are plenty here who aren't old enough to remember Reagan's "tear down this wall moment". I was 28; Reagan was in the last six months or so of his 2nd term. The story with the Russians was how well Reagan and Gorbachev seemed to be getting along. For someone of my age the Berlin Wall was simply a fact of life, like the Grand Canyon or Lake Michigan. And now this evidently senile Reagan was standing in front of it and calling for it to be torn down?

Yeah, I never voted for Reagan. But twenty years later I shed tears at his death and prayed we might someday see his like again.
Posted by: vertov at December 20, 2016 10:27 PM (QReAN)

---

I had just joined the Army after high school in the fall of 1987.

Stationed back in Hawaii in 1988.

I remember.

Posted by: SMFH at December 20, 2016 10:30 PM (CRotO)

102 Was reading something the other day said Gorbachev should get the credit for the wall coming down and Soviet Union breaking up. No recognition whatever for Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, John Paul II, or Lech Walesa.

Posted by: Eromero at December 20, 2016 10:31 PM (zLDYs)

103 64 At this time last year, I was homeless. I also had no ID, my wallet was stolen and I had lost everything else. Without ID you can not travel (I lived in Hawaii at the time). You can not get assistance or a job. It took me over six months to finally get an ID and then get my life started again.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 20, 2016 10:22 PM (1aDmL)



Glad to see you've made it back. What started the cycle?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 10:31 PM (EzgxV)

104 Ronald Reagan will be remembered for leading the United States during a time of tremendous international transition

Yeah, he just happened to be there. Along for the ride, Ronnie. Didn't contribute at all. Lucky, really.

That's the ticket.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2016 10:31 PM (39g3+)

105 My father-in-law was a A.F. pilot that made a lot of flights during the Berlin Airlift. He said they were anything but a cakewalk. When he retired he was a transport wing commander at McChord A.F.B.

Posted by: Hank at December 20, 2016 10:31 PM (C2Wtg)

106 People who have a greater risk of developing schizophrenia are more likely to try cannabis, according to new research, which also found a causal link between trying the drug and an increased risk of the condition.


Sounds more like selection bias than a causal link. The latter would require that a randomly chosen population trying cannabis showing a higher incidence of schizophrenia.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2016 10:31 PM (SRKgf)

107 Had a lapidarist cut it in half
I guess rabbits are good at that kinda thing because of the sharp front teeth.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2016 10:31 PM (lJXY3)

108 Great ONT, MisHum. My husband will like that beer link.

I really liked that Celtic Woman video. They do have lovely voices, don't they.

And no snakes on my Christmas tree, thank you very much. Ugh. I'm happy that lady could be so calm, but I'd freak out like nobody's business. Australia really does want to kill you.

Posted by: bluebell at December 20, 2016 10:31 PM (sBOL1)

109 The Wall came down in November '89

I went up at the end of November. Freaking cold! I knew a hardware store so got busy with a hammer and chisel. Was not expecting the battle I got. Excellent stuff. I train at a base which has concrete of the same quality. It was used as a railway siding. Would like to know the secret.

Posted by: t-bird at December 20, 2016 10:32 PM (eeTCA)

110 99. And in the meantime, sleep on the street? It's not at all easy to have no fixed address. I went through that for a few months, many years ago. Everything is more complicated thab it seems.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 20, 2016 10:32 PM (FUMmy)

111 "Any Food Can Be Turned Into Beer"

Doesn't mean it should be.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 10:32 PM (IcT7t)

112 64 At this time last year, I was homeless. I also had no ID, my wallet was stolen and I had lost everything else. Without ID you can not travel (I lived in Hawaii at the time). You can not get assistance or a job. It took me over six months to finally get an ID and then get my life started again.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy

Dayum. Now that's goin' Galt. Sorta. Glad you were able to extract yourself from that spot. Personally, I no longer give to panhandlers because I've been burnt too many times. Like the time I offered to purchase a person with an "I'm hungry" sign a hamburger and they said no thanks.

I frequent the local casinos, and oh the stories of woe I have heard. Some of them may have even been true.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 20, 2016 10:32 PM (oZEJt)

113 Damn fine ONT. Now I can rest easy. Night all.

Posted by: MTF at December 20, 2016 10:32 PM (X4ZNp)

114 >>>Same thing I said about McCrory in NC, but the Dem bastards got him anyhow.


Walker won 3 times in 4 years. WI has slowly changed from a blue state to a red state. NC is more purple than we are. You lost a good guy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 20, 2016 10:32 PM (voOPb)

115 Hi SMFH! Sorry, I stepped away to tend to some cookies. I was letting them cool before frosting, but now I'm not in the mood to frost them. I guess I'll have to put them away for tomorrow.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 10:33 PM (tHwdc)

116 Would like to know the secret.

Matzo.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 10:33 PM (IcT7t)

117 107 Had a lapidarist cut it in half
I guess rabbits are good at that kinda thing because of the sharp front teeth.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2016 10:31 PM (lJXY3)

That rabbit's dynamite!

Posted by: Arthur, King of the Britons at December 20, 2016 10:33 PM (7qAYi)

118 24 "Prome Queen?"

I'm almost tempted to see if Urban Dictionary has an entry for "Prome".

Almost.

Posted by: mikeski at December 20, 2016 10:10 PM (lO+tS)

++++

Prome
[prohm]

noun
1. a city in central Burma, on the Irrawaddy River: location of several noted pagodas.


http://www.dictionary.com/browse/prome

That wasn't the Urban Dictionary, just because I don't like going through the disinfection procedures after I visit that place.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 20, 2016 10:33 PM (R+30W)

119 I had an uncle I never met because he spent his life in the New Jersey state insane asylum (Ancora). A flock of idiots (aka "busybodies") decided one fine day that since there had been some incidents of families locking away members of the family for less than legitimate reasons in their friendly local mental institution, no adult, however incapable of taking care of themselves, should be placed in a mental facility against their will. Accordingly, my uncle was asked if he wanted to remain at Ancora, and he said "no". So the state authorities kicked him loose. The last reliable sighting of him was on Skid Row in Camden, NJ.

So many of these mentally ill homeless would be in facilities where they are kept on their meds and off the streets if the busybodies hadn't thrown the baby out with the bathwater. But the busybodies are always the first to point the finger when it is mentioned that so many homeless are mentally ill.

Posted by: Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable cats at December 20, 2016 10:34 PM (iYTF2)

120 Looks like 2018 wants to outdo 2016 in political WTF-ness...

Brianna Wu is running for Congress...

https://twitter.com/mombot/status/811413794589028352

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 20, 2016 10:34 PM (vBeA5)

121 heh Miley.

Won't have to worry about cooking or baking anything this year.

It's just me.

So I'll make do with what I have in my cupboards.

Posted by: SMFH at December 20, 2016 10:34 PM (CRotO)

122 100. You can get a temporary that day, but quite often the real deal is mailed.

No, I'm not suggesting there's merit to the lax voter ID laws. Only that it's an achievement bouncing back when one hits bottom

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 20, 2016 10:34 PM (FUMmy)

123 In Goteborg, Sweden, I saw more urban outdoorsmen than I'd ever seen in the US. Keep in mind that they have deliberately uncoupled themselves from the tender mercies of the State, which would gladly "take care" of them. They choose not be be cared for.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 10:12 PM (tHwdc)



Same thing happened in SF and Berkeley.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2016 10:34 PM (SRKgf)

124 I had lots of "casual links" in college. They were the best kind.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 20, 2016 10:18 PM (TJx8f)

True - diverting, without drama.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 10:35 PM (tHwdc)

125 I had an uncle I never met because he spent his life in the New Jersey state insane asylum (Ancora). A flock of idiots (aka "busybodies") decided one fine day that since there had been some incidents of families locking away members of the family for less than legitimate reasons in their friendly local mental institution, no adult, however incapable of taking care of themselves, should be placed in a mental facility against their will. Accordingly, my uncle was asked if he wanted to remain at Ancora, and he said "no". So the state authorities kicked him loose. The last reliable sighting of him was on Skid Row in Camden, NJ.

So many of these mentally ill homeless would be in facilities where they are kept on their meds and off the streets if the busybodies hadn't thrown the baby out with the bathwater. But the busybodies are always the first to point the finger when it is mentioned that so many homeless are mentally ill.

Posted by: Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable cats at December 20, 2016 10:34 PM (iYTF2)



It was a Supreme Court decision, O'Connor v. Donaldson, in 1975 that kicked them loose.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O'Connor_v._Donaldson

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2016 10:36 PM (SRKgf)

126 118 24 "Prome Queen?"

I'm almost tempted to see if Urban Dictionary has an entry for "Prome".

Almost.

Posted by: mikeski at December 20, 2016 10:10 PM (lO+tS)

++++

Prome
[prohm]

noun
1. a city in central Burma, on the Irrawaddy River: location of several noted pagodas.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/prome

That wasn't the Urban Dictionary, just because I don't like going through the disinfection procedures after I visit that place.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 20, 2016 10:33 PM (R+30W)



The foam stuff to spray all over is bad enough, but the stinging stuff they squirt into confined areas is horrible....OTOH, I don't mind the shampoo at all.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 10:37 PM (EzgxV)

127 Keep in mind that they have deliberately uncoupled themselves from the tender mercies of the State, which would gladly "take care" of them. They choose not be be cared for.
Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 10:12 PM (tHwdc)


That can also happen here. A son of one of my dad's co-workers had spina bifida. As an adult he qualified for disability, housing, job training, everything. He chose to live in the streets. The newspaper did a story on the disabled guy living in the street. They made it look like he was there because no one cared about him.They never mentioned the fact that he made a conscious choice to live like that. His mother, a home owning widow would have taken him in at the drop of a hat. The whole thing just broke her heart. He died before too long.

His problem with the public housing was that he didn't like the rules.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 20, 2016 10:37 PM (+lVUW)

128 hmm, you put words in your tat and the ink guy might spell it wrong

who puts prom queen as a tat?

bet she'll like that tat when she is 35 yo mom

Posted by: Original Jake at December 20, 2016 10:38 PM (jrFgU)

129 oh yeah


trump
trump
trump

deport
deport
deport

Posted by: Original Jake at December 20, 2016 10:38 PM (jrFgU)

130 Deplorable lady, the homeless situation (particularly of the late 1970s/early 1980s) was a perfect storm of short-sighted thinking on the left and the right.

The ACLU was agitating, saying no one who's ever been institutionalized, should be held against their will, *if they can't be shown to be a danger to themselves or others.* There was actually a battery of laws, starting in 1969, called "LPS" that began this process; I learned about this at my last job, which was at an actual California state mental hospital.

And conservatives believed states could save tons of money if they let these same people go as well. So they were released, many of whom not really ready, in the name of civil rights *and* budget cuts.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2016 10:39 PM (u8kLQ)

131 His problem with the public housing was that he didn't like the rules.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 20, 2016 10:37 PM (+lVUW)



It's the problem in the Bay Area. The homeless can get government-provided shelter, etc., but don't like the rules (no alcohol, no drugs, etc.), and therefore prefer to sleep rough.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2016 10:39 PM (SRKgf)

132 Might as well add - you need ID to get a P.O. box.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 20, 2016 10:40 PM (FUMmy)

133 Someone should tell Mary Landrieu that H.W. Bush was President when the Berlin Wall came down and Clinton was President when the Soviets finally collapsed.

Of course, Reagan brought their downfall.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac and Irredeemable at December 20, 2016 10:08 PM (1JnAL)

The USSR officially died on the last day of 1991, while H.W. was still President.

Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 20, 2016 10:41 PM (D2vc1)

134 Prome Queen?

More like Prone Queen, amirite?

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 20, 2016 10:41 PM (v3DL/)

135 Speaking of homelessness and weed, Colorado has attracted weed campers.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 20, 2016 10:41 PM (IDPbH)

136 Someone should tell Mary Landrieu that the Berlin Wall came down when Poppy Bush was POTUS.

Posted by: Jaqen H'ghar at December 20, 2016 10:42 PM (5fSr7)

137 And conservatives believed states could save tons of money if they let these same people go as well. So they were released, many of whom not really ready, in the name of civil rights *and* budget cuts.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2016 10:39 PM (u8kLQ)



I say again: it was O'Connor v. Donaldson, a Supreme Court decision, that made involuntary institutionalization very difficult. Nothing to do with budget cuts. There was no legal basis for holding people who did not pose an imminent threat to themselves or others, and who did not want to be held.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2016 10:42 PM (SRKgf)

138 Is this when we start bitching about ketchup?
Posted by: San Franpsycho


Bitch away.


I lurve ketchup. And my cheap ass ham ain't going to deter anything.

Gurd Bless Us, Urvery Wan.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 20, 2016 10:42 PM (ZBp8/)

139 It's not just schizophrenia but psychosis in general. What can be said is there is a correlation between marijuana use *at a young age* and developing some psychosis. There is no causality proven either way.

You see stuff about marijuana use causing changes in the brain that *could* cause it, but nothing is proven.

A young age, 18 through the 20s is when a lot of these mental symptoms first appear, and that's also when people start "experimenting" with drugs as they say.

It could be that people with these symptoms are trying to self-medicate, as it were, trying something to get away from the mental hell they're starting to experience.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 10:42 PM (DW+jj)

140 45 Got the ham today.

9.5lbs+, $15 bucks. ( fat cap evident. )

Extra honey purchased.


How're you cooking it, weft?

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 20, 2016 10:42 PM (di1hb)

141 Santa Baby ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/811256246233866240

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/811256357970124800

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/811256468649349120

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/811256562757013504

Posted by: kbdabear at December 20, 2016 10:42 PM (Ya7zs)

142 Damn you Palpatine, this is what I get for not reading the comments first.

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 20, 2016 10:43 PM (v3DL/)

143 102 Was reading something the other day said Gorbachev should get the credit for the wall coming down and Soviet Union breaking up. No recognition whatever for Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, John Paul II, or Lech Walesa.

Wow - that's really ignorant.

Slightly off-topic. There's a great book on Reagan, Thatcher, and JP II. One thing that's incredibly striking is the first chapter, which discusses where each was ten years earlier, in 1970. JP II was a POLISH priest, behind the Iron Curtain. Thatcher was a middle-aged FEMALE bureaucrat in British government. And, yeah, Reagan was a gov, but he had been an actor. What kind of odds could you have gotten that those three would bring down the evil empire in the '80's? And where was Lech Walesa in 1970?

Posted by: vertov at December 20, 2016 10:43 PM (QReAN)

144 67 Who's going to divorce first Mooch or Clinton?
Posted by: James the worst of the deplorable at December 20, 2016 10:22 PM (jxw6R)
------------------------------
Neither will ever divorce.
Especially where the Obamas are concerned, there is a narrative to maintain.

In any case, neither couple has to spend much time together. No real reason to divorce.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 20, 2016 10:43 PM (Nox3c)

145 Tell me something, who the hell is Bill Wynn?


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 10:25 PM (DW+jj)

Bill Wynn is a concern troll.

Posted by: Mrs. Bill Wynn, Duchess of the Deplorable Chamber of Commerce at December 20, 2016 10:43 PM (tHwdc)

146 Not tax deductible, but still a very worthwhile cause:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/z3ek88x (sfw)

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 10:44 PM (IcT7t)

147 More Santa Baby ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/811256655593832448

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/811256817003196418

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/811256968329494530

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/811257112835854336

Posted by: kbdabear at December 20, 2016 10:44 PM (Ya7zs)

148 Jay, I'm not disagreeing, just saying there were also other factors in play.

In 1967 Frederick Wiseman made a documentary titled "Titicut Follies," that depicted what really went on in a lot of public mental hospitals. It was, and is, not an easy movie to sit through, at all.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2016 10:44 PM (u8kLQ)

149 142. Your anger gives you focus, it makes you stronger.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 20, 2016 10:44 PM (FUMmy)

150 Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 20, 2016 10:22 PM (1aDmL)

Noah, congrats! And prayers for good things to come.

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at December 20, 2016 10:45 PM (Om16U)

151 I was going to casually point out a slight error in the post, but I see others beat me to it and there is therefore no cause for me to do so.

People with problems sometimes try to self-medicate, but don't realize they are trading temporary relief for long-term problems. This is why it is always best that we only trust the judgment and recommendations of our physicians and pharmaceutical companies.

* mad, high-pitched cackling *

Posted by: mindful webworker - casually schizophrantic at December 20, 2016 10:45 PM (5a8XA)

152 67 Who's going to divorce first mooch or Clinton?
Posted by: James the worst of the deplorable at December 20, 2016 10:22 PM (jxw6R)


If they get a divorce, do they get all the perks of an ex-president?

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 20, 2016 10:45 PM (+lVUW)

153 Even More Santa Baby ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/811257227747217409

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/811257325986189313

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/811257421029134340

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/811257506706194432

Posted by: kbdabear at December 20, 2016 10:45 PM (Ya7zs)

154 Neither will ever divorce.

Especially where the Obamas are concerned, there is a narrative to maintain.



In any case, neither couple has to spend much time together. No real reason to divorce.



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 20, 2016 10:43 PM (Nox3c)


Richer Together.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 10:45 PM (tHwdc)

155 If you're doggie kills spiders is he a good doggie?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 20, 2016 10:45 PM (6Ll1u)

156 144 67 Who's going to divorce first Mooch or Clinton?
Posted by: James the worst of the deplorable at December 20, 2016 10:22 PM (jxw6R)
------------------------------
Neither will ever divorce.
Especially where the Obamas are concerned, there is a narrative to maintain.

In any case, neither couple has to spend much time together. No real reason to divorce.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 20, 2016 10:43 PM (Nox3c)


The Clintons will never divorce because of that "you cannot be compelled to testify against your spouse" loophole.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 10:45 PM (EzgxV)

157 I just read that while the terrorist truck attack was occurring, Frau Merkel was three miles away at an event promoting her immigration policies.

Surely Merkel and the CDU are well and truly fucked.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 20, 2016 10:46 PM (97XyN)

158 I saw Carnivorous Parrots open for The Sex Pistols at Bedlam in '82.

There were many causalities.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 20, 2016 10:46 PM (oZEJt)

159 The Clintons will never divorce because of that "you cannot be compelled to testify against your spouse" loophole.

And really, isn't that what love is all about?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 10:46 PM (IcT7t)

160 17 Interestingly, there are no snakes in New Zealand.
Barristers fill that ecological niche.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20,

Horning in on great white territory there.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 20, 2016 10:46 PM (hscyr)

161 Thanks Blanco.

Posted by: SMFH at December 20, 2016 10:46 PM (CRotO)

162
Was reading something the other day said Gorbachev should get the credit for the wall coming down and Soviet Union breaking up. No recognition whatever for Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, John Paul II, or Lech Walesa.
Posted by: Eromero


The Soviets single handedly won WW2

Posted by: European historian at December 20, 2016 10:47 PM (IqV8l)

163 Thanks Blanco.

It had fallen out of your nic, and was just laying there.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 10:47 PM (IcT7t)

164 There was actually a battery of laws, starting in 1969, called "LPS" that began this process; I learned about this at my last job, which was at an actual California state mental hospital.

===

To be fair, I lthink California has done a better job of de-institutionalizing people with disabilities than any other state. But it has fallen short when it comes to people with mental illness. The biggest difference probably lies in the fact that developmental disabilities are generally not treatable but mental illness is. The treatment itself is the source of contention.

Fact is if people stay on their meds, they feel good, and then they stop taking their meds. How do you make them take the meds and not offend their free choice?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 20, 2016 10:47 PM (EZebt)

165 Bill Wynn is a concern troll.
Posted by: Mrs. Bill Wynn, Duchess of the Deplorable Chamber of Commerce at December 20, 2016 10:43 PM (tHwdc)

---
honest question: has he been around since the FBA got schlonged, or are we just now dealing with witty socks?

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 20, 2016 10:47 PM (0kXpQ)

166 Testing

Posted by: Testing at December 20, 2016 10:48 PM (z3TGX)

167 MisHum, re new pic: Brrrrrrr!!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 10:48 PM (EzgxV)

168 Highly recommend the 2006 movie, "The Lives of Others"

In German it's Das Leben der Anderen

About life behind the wall and getting out.

Also "Goodbye Lenin" from 2003, about a young man who has to pretend the wall is still there in order to be a good son to his party-member mother.

Both are great movies about Berlin and the world with the wall.

Posted by: The wall at December 20, 2016 10:48 PM (NPLj5)

169 evening to the late night horde

Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at December 20, 2016 10:49 PM (C+vbB)

170 Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at December 20, 2016 10:45 PM (Om16U)


---


Screenshot of Indiegogo's dashboard as to when I was supposed to receive the funds:

http://tinyurl.com/zjrt2jl

Posted by: SMFH at December 20, 2016 10:50 PM (CRotO)

171 Clayton Cramer has an amusing video up about voter id.

I saw that. It's an excellent example of how liberalism is racist. These white kids at the college act as if black people can't handle anything without help.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 20, 2016 10:50 PM (+lVUW)

172 Yes, I knew "Bill Wynn" was a troll (actually sounds sort of something like AllahPundit would write), but I was wonder where the name came from. Was there some Bill Wynn who was somebody that would make sense for such a troll to sock.

The first thing a Google search turns up for Bill Wynn is a lawyer, coincidentally just over the way from me in Spartanburg, SC.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 10:50 PM (DW+jj)

173 So many of these mentally ill homeless would be in facilities where they are kept on their meds and off the streets if the busybodies hadn't thrown the baby out with the bathwater. But the busybodies are always the first to point the finger when it is mentioned that so many homeless are mentally ill.

I blame Geraldo Rivera-isn't that how he got his start? I think it was Willowbrook.

Posted by: Toni at December 20, 2016 10:51 PM (IOntn)

174 San Franpsycho, yup.

When I was working in the Skilled Nursing Facility at Metropolitan State Hospital, it had become state law for *every* patient, in every ward, to be evaluated for their ability (or inability) to re-integrate into society. A report for every single person had to be compiled every month, and a copy of same had to be offered to the patient for review, so that they could tell their treatment team what they liked, what they didn't, what they wanted changed, etc etc.

It kind of worked; I actually saw a few patients get released. But there were others for whom, the whole thing was a paint-by-numbers sham. They were *never* going to be well enough to be released, and I think even most of the patients themselves knew that.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2016 10:51 PM (u8kLQ)

175 anyone remember the early 80's movie where a family built a home made hot air balloon in east Germany and floated over the wall?

Posted by: Original Jake at December 20, 2016 10:51 PM (jrFgU)

176 So, Blanco -- which one of these is your datacenter? https://blog.dotcom-monitor.com/ dotcom-monitor-news/server-cable -hell-15-of-the-worst-wiring-jobs-ever-2/

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 10:51 PM (EzgxV)

177 I think it was in 1988 that I read a teensy article on some inner page of the local rag about people in Soviet East Europe discovering that if they could get to the Hungarian-Austrian border, the Soviet border guards would just let them drive right past them into Austria. I sat there scratching my head, knowing something fishy was going on.

Months later, hubby and I sat in our living room, slack-jawed with amazement as we watched live the people on both sides of the Berlin Wall took sledgehammers and anything else they could get their hands on to tear the Wall down. I think it was one of the most incredible things I've ever seen.

Posted by: Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable cats at December 20, 2016 10:51 PM (iYTF2)

178 The crowned head of Prome are a very proud tradition. The sacred vertical tramp stamp isn't bestowed on just anyone. There are some tests that must be conquered, such as operating a zipper with one's mouth.

Posted by: Epobirs at December 20, 2016 10:51 PM (AK5Ni)

179
Walker won 3 times in 4 years. WI has slowly
changed from a blue state to a red state. NC is more purple than we are.
You lost a good guy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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The guy had an obvious flaw. He didn't think men should, by law, have access to the girl's room. Sick, sick dude. Had to go.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, far from home at December 20, 2016 10:52 PM (hTIYb)

180 My favorite uncle booked a flight and got us all a hunk. Still have mine. Had a lapidarist cut it in half and made two paperweights out of it. Date and description on the bottom, for future generations. The world seemed so hopeful if unbalanced just then.

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But even then, Obozo and Mooch were lying in wait. And just lying.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 20, 2016 10:52 PM (Nwg0u)

181 169 evening to the late night horde

Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at December 20, 2016 10:49 PM (C+vbB)



Howdy, SoM!!! Sorry I missed you your last time through.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 10:53 PM (EzgxV)

182 Excerpt from John Kay & Steppenwolf

The Wall


Turned on the news in November '89
I could not move, I could not speak
Something was burning up in my eyes,
Something wet ran down my cheek
All those laughing faces, all those tears of joy
All those warm embraces of men and women, girls and boys
Sisters and brothers dancing, all singing freedom's song
God, if only I could be there to shake your hands and sing along
Oh I, I would climb right up on that wall
And join you all dancing on the wall
Standing tall walking on the wall
Tear it down, right down to the ground


Kay fled East Germany with his mother as a small child to Canada, then to the US

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 20, 2016 10:53 PM (voOPb)

183 Toni, I believe Willowbrook was a *children's* mental hospital, and that Geraldo found physical, mental and sexual abuse going on.

In that case I think he was on the side of the angels. The only problem is that his investigation was *such* a success, he honestly began to think of himself as Superman with a journalism degree instead of tights.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2016 10:53 PM (u8kLQ)

184 I can tell you that we all just love the homeless lady that lives in the bushes across from me.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 20, 2016 10:53 PM (6Ll1u)

185 Another terrible day, in a series of terrible days. Collect 'em all. Hello and goodnight.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 20, 2016 10:53 PM (MZcWR)

186 The USSR officially died on the last day of 1991, while H.W. was still President.
Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 20, 2016 10:41 PM (D2vc1)


Last day of 1991. I was in the Tokyo Dome at a Metallica concert. With Europe (Final Countdown!), Tesla, and Thunder. Fucking awesome, it was.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at December 20, 2016 10:54 PM (R5EqA)

187 Cthulhu its alright , its just good to see you back

Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at December 20, 2016 10:54 PM (C+vbB)

188 Jay, I'm not disagreeing, just saying there were also other factors in play.

Those factors may have played a role in the run-up to O'Connor v. Donaldson, but that case was dispositive. California had its own legislation (the name and proponents of which I've forgotten, but were liberals) on this point, but once the Supreme Court rendered its decision, that was that. Budget cuts etc. were irrelevant (although they are a favored liberal meme to share the blame with conservatives, and/or to push off most of the blame onto conservatives). The Supreme Court said that this is how it's going to be. Period. There was no discretion, no policy decision at the local level, any more than there is about Miranda rights. Read the link on Wiki about this decision.

Unfortunately, because this policy arose from a Supreme Court decision, effectively only the Supreme Court can overturn it. In the meantime, we're stuck with assorted lunatics running around loose on the streets.*

*Recently we had a guy try to shoot up an elementary school a mile away (fortunately, some gardeners tackled him). The perp was a total nut job and a frequent flyer (monthly) with the local police, who were asked why they hadn't done anything about him. Their answer: because of O'Connor v. Donaldson there was nothing they could do until he posed a manifest threat to himself or others.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2016 10:54 PM (SRKgf)

189 #173

This 1967 documentary was very influential:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062374/?ref_=nv_sr_3

Posted by: Epobirs at December 20, 2016 10:54 PM (AK5Ni)

190 185 Another terrible day, in a series of terrible days. Collect 'em all. Hello and goodnight.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 20, 2016 10:53 PM (MZcWR)

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I know the feeling.

Goodnight, BC.

Hope you have a better day tomorrow.

Posted by: SMFH at December 20, 2016 10:55 PM (CRotO)

191 Bill Wynn

"In 2012, he became the first African-American President of the Culver City Democratic Club"

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zx7szos

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 20, 2016 10:56 PM (hVdx9)

192 >>>The guy had an obvious flaw. He didn't think men should, by law, have access to the girls room......

Of course you are spot on Mike

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 20, 2016 10:56 PM (voOPb)

193 We're Christian like that, and try to help.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 20, 2016 10:56 PM (6Ll1u)

194 Summary:
People who have a greater risk of developing schizophrenia are more likely to try cannabis, according to new research, which also found a causal link between trying the drug and an increased risk of the condition.


And thus, the final explanation for Gary "Baked Alaska" Johnson.

Posted by: David, Internet Troll at December 20, 2016 10:56 PM (2skQu)

195 Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 20, 2016 10:47 PM (EZebt)

Some might call it a slippery slope but at some point you must be able to declare someone a danger to society and force institutionalization.

I had a diagnosed schizophrenic neighbor who lived alone and would not take her meds. One night she drove her car into another neighbors gas meter and continued to drive to her house and locked herself in. The block had to be evacuated until they repaired the gas line. The police were called but they refused to take her in whereas I would have been in the back of the squad car if I had done what she did.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 20, 2016 10:56 PM (IDPbH)

196 Epobirs, I mentioned Titicut Follies earlier. :-)

I kind of want to see it, but also kind of don't. Have read, it's pretty disturbing.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2016 10:57 PM (u8kLQ)

197 If they get a divorce, do they get all the perks of an ex-president?

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Hillary is a pre-president.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 20, 2016 10:57 PM (Nwg0u)

198 154---Richer Together.
Posted by: Miley

156 ----The Clintons will never divorce because of that "you cannot be compelled to testify against your spouse" loophole.
Posted by: cthulhu
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Yep! Those are good reasons too!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 20, 2016 10:57 PM (Nox3c)

199
Kay fled East Germany with his mother as a small child to Canada, then to the US
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian


Never knew that!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 20, 2016 10:57 PM (IqV8l)

200 SMFH any luck talking to a real person there to get answers?

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 20, 2016 10:57 PM (Om16U)

201 Fact is if people stay on their meds, they feel good, and then they stop taking their meds. How do you make them take the meds and not offend their free choice?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 20, 2016 10:47 PM (EZebt)

++++

You make their freedom contingent on showing up at a facility to take their meds. It would be more expensive than just giving them a prescription and sending them on their way. But, that kind of requirement could be limited to those who have a) already demonstrated anti-social behavior, and b) those who have demonstrated that they can't be trusted to stay on their meds on their own.

If you are dealing with someone who is a danger to themselves or others when they are off their meds and they refuse to stay on their meds, society has to do something to protect itself. And, this intermediate kind of step would be better than institutionalization, at least for those who would respond to this kind of regimentation. If they won't anyway, then into the funny farm they go.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 20, 2016 10:58 PM (R+30W)

202 187 Cthulhu its alright , its just good to see you back

Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at December 20, 2016 10:54 PM (C+vbB)



What are you up to lately? .....and don't say, "about 5' 10" or so", or I'll have to tell an even worse joke.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 10:58 PM (EzgxV)

203 watching yet another documentary about Hitler. I wonder if Hillary was ever turned down by an art academy.
ok, went too far with that, I am ashamed of myself. And Keith Olbermann is a twat.

Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at December 20, 2016 10:59 PM (b7fwp)

204 Tomorrow is also my daughter's birthday. She'll be 21 this year.

And my husband's nephew smokes marijuana, and has an aunt with schizophrenia. Nephew is in his late 20s and no signs yet of schizophrenia.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 20, 2016 11:00 PM (FQKBL)

205 I wonder if Hillary was ever turned down by an art academy.

==

didn't she say she was turned down by the Marines or something?

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 20, 2016 11:00 PM (Om16U)

206 SSRI. Old news.

And that PROME amazon. Tranny in training?

Posted by: Corona at December 20, 2016 11:00 PM (xVq5B)

207 I love Ronald Reagan but I would say his greatest failing was thinking the Soviet Union was the only enemy and being naive about the danger of the domestic Left.

Posted by: cm9000 at December 20, 2016 11:00 PM (vYaiw)

208 One of the things that was heartbreaking was the poverty at all levels behind the iron curtain. Cops and soldiers panhandling on the street.

It was such a shock to see.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 20, 2016 11:01 PM (FUMmy)

209 To be fair, I lthink California has done a better job of de-institutionalizing people with disabilities than any other state.

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They've even placed one in the governor's mansion.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 20, 2016 11:01 PM (Nwg0u)

210 There were terrible abuses in the past, but we've gone way too far in the other direction with the mentally ill.

Nothing can be done until someone gets to the point (if ever) where they are violent, and then that means calling the cops, and it doesn't usually end well. There was no need for it to get to that point if something could've been done beforehand.

I'm resistant to the notion of giving some credentialed professional (ie psychiatrist) the power to declare someone incompetent and take away their rights and put them away.

That power was abused in the past.

But yet, that's exactly what needs to be done in some cases. You'll hear people talking about how powerless they were when a family member was clearly going batshit and there was nothing they could do until it got to the point the person was violent.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 11:01 PM (DW+jj)

211 So, Blanco -- which one of these is your datacenter? https://blog.dotcom-monitor.com/ dotcom-monitor-news/server-cable -hell-15-of-the-worst-wiring-jobs-ever-2/

We have to be able to close our rack doors. Other than that, everything but the bathroom one applies.

BTW, is that bathroom pic a shot from Platte River Networks?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 11:01 PM (IcT7t)

212 What are you up to lately? .....and don't say, "about 5' 10" or so", or I'll have to tell an even worse joke.
Posted by: cthulhu

I am vigorously fighting for my freedom from an oppresive regime. Put plainly, the Army doesn't want to let me go early to start college this spring even though I have used all the proper channels and filed all the right paperwork. So instead of starting on time I'm probably looking at 7 months of scratching out a living before I can use GI Bill. other than that though I'm still chugging along. What about you?

Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at December 20, 2016 11:03 PM (C+vbB)

213 I recall reading about Russian army units reduced to hiring themselves out for day labor because they hadn't been paid in months..... shocking collapse. Amazing the country managed to bounce back at all.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 20, 2016 11:03 PM (FUMmy)

214 Spawn, where would you be going to school?

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 20, 2016 11:03 PM (FYrz1)

215 211 So, Blanco -- which one of these is your datacenter? https://blog.dotcom-monitor.com/ dotcom-monitor-news/server-cable -hell-15-of-the-worst-wiring-jobs-ever-2/

We have to be able to close our rack doors. Other than that, everything but the bathroom one applies.

BTW, is that bathroom pic a shot from Platte River Networks?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 11:01 PM (IcT7t)



Only Clinton staffers and the Secret Service know, and they ain't tellin'....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 11:04 PM (EzgxV)

216 And no snakes on my Christmas tree, thank you very
much. Ugh. I'm happy that lady could be so calm, but I'd freak out
like nobody's business. Australia really does want to kill you.


Posted by: bluebell at December 20, 2016 10:31 PM (sBOL1)


It's Australia. The worst you would get is someone shouting "get that damned snake away from my cracker!"

Posted by: Kindltot at December 20, 2016 11:04 PM (9MInk)

217 200 SMFH any luck talking to a real person there to get answers?
Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 20, 2016 10:57 PM (Om16U)

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I started this fundraiser after my husband passed away on Nov 9th to cover his funeral expenses and find his daughters, as well as to pay bills. It is now a week before Christmas, and I will most likely have to push back his service until after the new year.

I'm not asking for anything to be expedited. I'm just asking you to fulfill your end of the deal.

Respectfully,

Posted by: SMFH at December 20, 2016 11:04 PM (CRotO)

218
I'm almost tempted to see if Urban Dictionary has an entry for "Prome".


Surprisingly, there is a "prom queen" entry and, equally surprising, it means exactly what you'd expect.

"Dog in a bath tub", on the other hand...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Elector Set (Suck It, Celebs!) at December 20, 2016 11:05 PM (BK3ZS)

219 This is why it is always best that we only trust the judgment and recommendations of our physicians and pharmaceutical companies.

* mad, high-pitched cackling *

Posted by: mindful webworker - casually schizophrantic at December 20, 2016 10:45 PM (5a8XA) fnord (5a8XA)


My last ER visit was a result of just that. Trusting them, that is.

"Oh, sure, take this pill, what could go wrong? (WEEE OOOO WEEE OOO)

(Okay, I drove myself there. Shut up.)

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 20, 2016 11:05 PM (wB8Tg)

220 Heh... favorite uncle came back from eastern Europe with a crap-ton of stuff. Hr was too soft-hearted, and ended up buying books, clothes, etc from everyone he met. Even bought a parka from jugo border guard before he crossed back into Italy.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 20, 2016 11:05 PM (FUMmy)

221 I remember a few weeks ago, we were talking here in the ONT about how Joe Kennedy had his daughter Rosemary butchered by "mental health professionals" performing a so-called lobotomy. I guarantee you, there were *many* Rosemarys; it's just that all the others, weren't from famously powerful/wealthy families.

Rosemary was one of the most famous cases and reasons (rightly or wrongly), why mental hospitals today have such a shitty reputation.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2016 11:05 PM (u8kLQ)

222 214 Spawn, where would you be going to school?
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile

Indiana University, I should be able to knock out my Bachelors in English (Minor in business) in 18 months and use the rest of my GI Bill towards my law degree.

Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at December 20, 2016 11:05 PM (C+vbB)

223 "The Soviets single handedly won WW2"

Absolutely. We could never have defeated Japan if the USSR hadn't declared war on Japan two days after Hiroshima.

Posted by: FOAF at December 20, 2016 11:05 PM (p0JMG)

224 208 One of the things that was heartbreaking was the poverty at all levels behind the iron curtain. Cops and soldiers panhandling on the street.

It was such a shock to see.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 20, 2016 11:01 PM (FUMmy)


I knew someone who traveled to Russia in the early 90s and came back with a Soviet Army officer's hat. It was very nice, but it's sad thinking that its owner had to sell it just to get by.

Posted by: rickl at December 20, 2016 11:05 PM (sdi6R)

225
I wonder if Hillary was ever turned down by an art academy.
==
didn't she say she was turned down by the Marines or something?
Posted by: @votermom


They told her she was too tough for them.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 20, 2016 11:05 PM (IqV8l)

226 The Clintons will never divorce because of that "you cannot be compelled to testify against your spouse" loophole.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 10:45 PM (EzgxV)


Good point.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 20, 2016 11:06 PM (+lVUW)

227 I recall reading about Russian army units reduced to hiring themselves out for day labor because they hadn't been paid in months..... shocking collapse.

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Didja see they're cancelling Santa in Venezuela this Christmas? They've still got Maduro, though, and that's pretty much the same thing.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 20, 2016 11:06 PM (Nwg0u)

228 When I joined the Army one of the first things I was asked was what was my religion for my dog tags. I said Christian and had to fight to get it. But that's what my dog tags said. Was I the only one?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 20, 2016 11:07 PM (6Ll1u)

229 The wall fell the day I checked in to my first ship, USS Robison DDG-12. Decommissioned less than two years later.

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Posted by: SMFH at December 20, 2016 11:07 PM (CRotO)

231 Also, the Clintons don't need to divorce. It's not like she cares that he's porking all those women.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 20, 2016 11:07 PM (+lVUW)

232 Posted by: SMFH at December 20, 2016 11:04 PM (CRotO)

Cheers,

Christine.


The balls on that bitch.
Has to be a TX lawyer lurking here to help you out.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 20, 2016 11:08 PM (voOPb)

233 I'm resistant to the notion of giving some credentialed professional (ie psychiatrist) the power to declare someone incompetent and take away their rights and put them away.


Who do you think sits on parole boards, i.e., the bodies that decide whether to give people their freedom?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2016 11:08 PM (SRKgf)

234 As the mother of a nearly 11 yr old girl, I can testify that it is true... It would be easier to remove the molars from a rabid badger than it is to remove glitter from ANYTHING...
That is all.

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 20, 2016 11:08 PM (yTnCT)

235 Want to take a guess how I responded?

Mortar? 3 round burst? Claymore?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 11:08 PM (IcT7t)

236 heh Miley.



Won't have to worry about cooking or baking anything this year.



It's just me.



So I'll make do with what I have in my cupboards.

Posted by: SMFH at December 20, 2016 10:34 PM (CRotO)

Grandma's cookies are going out to the fam. Long tradition that was suspended after she died. I have the recipe and picked up the cookie torch, as it were, and finally mastered it. I'd love to send you some, sweetie. They're made with love. Email me at the yooha thing, tp 4 evr, no spaces. Need a place to ship 'em, babe!

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 11:08 PM (tHwdc)

237 I wonder if Hillary was ever turned down by an art academy.
==
didn't she say she was turned down by the Marines or something?
Posted by: @votermom

They told her she was too tough for them.

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She had to sit on the bench marked Group W.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 20, 2016 11:08 PM (Nwg0u)

238 The Wall -- Steppenwolf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKJVOH_cxJw

Thanks for that insight, Mis Hum, and for the ONT too.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 20, 2016 11:08 PM (oZEJt)

239 Winners go home and fark the prome queen.

Posted by: Sean Connery at December 20, 2016 11:09 PM (BAs7L)

240 228 When I joined the Army one of the first things I was asked was what was my religion for my dog tags. I said Christian and had to fight to get it. But that's what my dog tags said. Was I the only one?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby

I tried that but they said they wanted something a little more specific so they would be able to decide if they needed to perform last rights or any other ceremony in case of my passing so I went with Christian, Non-Denominational.

Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at December 20, 2016 11:09 PM (C+vbB)

241 Also, the Clintons don't need to divorce. It's not like she cares that he's porking all those women.

I think it bothers her that Bill can still pull prettier women than she can.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 11:09 PM (IcT7t)

242 I knew someone who traveled to Russia in the early 90s and came back with a Soviet Army officer's hat. It was very nice, but it's sad thinking that its owner had to sell it just to get by.

Posted by: rickl at December 20, 2016 11:05 PM (sdi6R)



I have one right here in my study, a few feet away from where I'm sitting right now. Hell, in the run up to the fall of the Berlin Wall I think I could've bought a T-72 if I'd had enough money.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2016 11:10 PM (SRKgf)

243 Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 20, 2016 11:07 PM (6Ll1u)

And now you could get Wiccan on them with no problem.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 20, 2016 11:10 PM (IDPbH)

244 I've got a 'niece' from Kazakhstan who was born after the 'band broke up'. She has no idea what her parents went through - she says they tried to explain it, but none of it made any sense to her.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 20, 2016 11:11 PM (FUMmy)

245 Cheers,

Christine.


The balls on that bitch.
Has to be a TX lawyer lurking here to help you out.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 20, 2016 11:08 PM (voOPb)

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Not much anyone can do this close to Christmas.

Posted by: SMFH at December 20, 2016 11:11 PM (CRotO)

246 I wonder how the Russians today feel about their Soviet days?

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 20, 2016 11:11 PM (Om16U)

247 Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at December 20, 2016 11:09 PM (C+vbB)

Well hello there ya miserable brat!!!

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 20, 2016 11:11 PM (yTnCT)

248 Grandma's cookies are going out to the fam. Long tradition that was suspended after she died. I have the recipe and picked up the cookie torch, as it were, and finally mastered it. I'd love to send you some, sweetie. They're made with love. Email me at the yooha thing, tp 4 evr, no spaces. Need a place to ship 'em, babe!
Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 11:08 PM (tHwdc)

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That is very sweet of you.

Thank you.

Posted by: SMFH at December 20, 2016 11:12 PM (CRotO)

249 while the terrorist truck attack was occurring, Frau Merkel was three miles away at an event promoting her immigration policies.

Suck it, Hillary!

Posted by: Frau Merkel at December 20, 2016 11:12 PM (eeTCA)

250 247 Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at December 20, 2016 11:09 PM (C+vbB)

Well hello there ya miserable brat!!!
Posted by: madamemayhem

You came crawling out of the shadows after all

Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at December 20, 2016 11:12 PM (C+vbB)

251 while the terrorist truck attack was occurring, Frau Merkel was three miles away at an event promoting her immigration policies.

Lady Merkbeth.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2016 11:13 PM (u8kLQ)

252 221 I remember a few weeks ago, we were talking here in the ONT about how Joe Kennedy had his daughter Rosemary butchered by "mental health professionals" performing a so-called lobotomy. I guarantee you, there were *many* Rosemarys; it's just that all the others, weren't from famously powerful/wealthy families.
Rosemary was one of the most famous cases and reasons (rightly or wrongly), why mental hospitals today have such a shitty reputation.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2016 11:05 PM (u8kLQ)



In fairness, at one time lobotomies were considered to be sound therapy. The inventor of the procedure, a Portuguese neurologist (IIRC) won the Nobel Prize for Medicine or Physiology in the late 40s (again, IIRC), considerably after Rosemary Kennedy's lobotomy.

Only later did it fall out of favor.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2016 11:13 PM (SRKgf)

253 246. It's one of those schizoid things - it was hell, but they were proud of it. They remember the humiliation of the Yeltsin days bitterly.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 20, 2016 11:14 PM (FUMmy)

254 157 I just read that while the terrorist truck attack was occurring, Frau Merkel was three miles away at an event promoting her immigration policies.

Surely Merkel and the CDU are well and truly fucked.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 20, 2016 10:46 PM (97XyN)


Yup, it was some kind of celebration of how wonderful immigration is.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 20, 2016 11:14 PM (+lVUW)

255 One can only plot mayhem for so long before one must say hello to the horde.

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 20, 2016 11:14 PM (yTnCT)

256 Some might call it a slippery slope but at some point you must be able to declare someone a danger to society and force institutionalization.

Ain't no "might" to it.

Any Means given to Government will be used for Political Ends sooner rather than later.

Watched the news lately ? Seen anybody out there just dying to get hold of the power to institutionalize folks that are a danger to society ?

Posted by: SD at December 20, 2016 11:14 PM (z3TGX)

257 I'd guess about a third of Russians miss the Soviet Union, maybe a little less.

Posted by: navybrat at December 20, 2016 11:14 PM (w7KSn)

258 Frau Frauhrer Merkel

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 20, 2016 11:14 PM (Nwg0u)

259 I still have one of my original dog tags... Religion: "No Pref".

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 20, 2016 11:14 PM (kP16F)

260 Watching Old Navy commercial with Amy Schumer. Holy Crap she's huge.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 20, 2016 11:14 PM (IDPbH)

261 102 Was reading something the other day said Gorbachev should get the
credit for the wall coming down and Soviet Union breaking up. No
recognition whatever for Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, John Paul II,
or Lech Walesa.




My brother found that in his stepdaughter's history book and hit the roof.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 11:15 PM (tHwdc)

262 I wonder how the Russians today feel about their Soviet days?

The biggest 100th anniversary observances might be over here. Check your "blue" areas for local listings.

Posted by: t-bird at December 20, 2016 11:15 PM (ysprU)

263 255 One can only plot mayhem for so long before one must say hello to the horde.
Posted by: madamemayhem at December 20, 2016 11:14 PM (yTnCT)

I think you meant to say chili for when I get home

Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at December 20, 2016 11:15 PM (C+vbB)

264 Indiana University, I should be able to knock out my Bachelors in English (Minor in business) in 18 months and use the rest of my GI Bill towards my law degree.
Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at December 20, 2016 11:05 PM (C+vbB)


Good luck. I'm using the GI bill right now to pay for grad school. I'm only using up a year, which means if I decide to try for a Ph.D. down the road I'll still have two years worth of benefits. Or I might try for a second masters.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 20, 2016 11:16 PM (FYrz1)

265 >> Who do you think sits on parole boards, i.e., the bodies that
>> decide whether to give people their freedom?

That doesn't bother me at all. A person there has been convicted of a crime, and deprived of their freedom by due process of law as it were, charged and convicted by a jury.

The parole board just decides who to give a break.

In this case we're talking about depriving someone of their freedom out of the blue, who hasn't committed a crime yet, much less been convicted and sentenced.

You're giving that special class of credentialed professionals the power to do what otherwise requires due process of law, conviction by a jury in a court of law.

That is a terrible power to give someone.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 11:16 PM (DW+jj)

266 246. I think a symptom of what I mean is the donetsk and lugansk peoples republics in eastern Ukraine. These are full-on soviet-style governments, complete with Stalin nostalgia. But their cause - opposition to Kiev and the maidanist coup - is just.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 20, 2016 11:16 PM (FUMmy)

267 Isn't Merkerl an East German? I wonder if her open borders fixation is a reaction to living behind the wall.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 20, 2016 11:16 PM (Om16U)

268 Chili, mayhem, whatever honey!

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 20, 2016 11:16 PM (yTnCT)

269 Causal relationship between schizophrenia and tattooing?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 20, 2016 11:16 PM (3wfnv)

270 I'll be working Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Years Eve, and New Years Day in case anybody wants to stop by, say hi and bring some food or booze.

Sheesh. Can't wait to get out of here.

Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 20, 2016 11:17 PM (D2vc1)

271 267 Isn't Merkerl an East German?

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 20, 2016 11:16 PM (Om16U)]


Yes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2016 11:18 PM (SRKgf)

272 Surely Merkel and the CDU are well and truly fucked.

That could have been our fate, too, had Romney won. (The CDU is their GOPe)

Posted by: t-bird at December 20, 2016 11:18 PM (ysprU)

273 Chili Mayhem sounds yummy.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 20, 2016 11:18 PM (Om16U)

274 212 What are you up to lately? .....and don't say, "about 5' 10" or so", or I'll have to tell an even worse joke.
Posted by: cthulhu

I am vigorously fighting for my freedom from an oppresive regime. Put plainly, the Army doesn't want to let me go early to start college this spring even though I have used all the proper channels and filed all the right paperwork. So instead of starting on time I'm probably looking at 7 months of scratching out a living before I can use GI Bill. other than that though I'm still chugging along. What about you?

Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at December 20, 2016 11:03 PM (C+vbB)



I'm doing pre-preparation to becoming a CPA in North Carolina and in Tennessee. If you've never been involved with it, you don't know how touchy states can be if you say "I'll do your accounting" without having a license in that state. Like a lot of things in accounting, there's a "scavenger hunt" phase, an "organization" phase, and a "put in proscribed format" phase. And, like nearly everything in accounting, there's deadlines.


And, there's also twists that CPA-types can take advantage of. For example, if I applied to join the North Carolina Society of CPAs two weeks ago, I could have gotten a $60 discount on the legal and ethics review course I just took.....but if I wait until after January 1, my initial year's dues will last to 6/30/18 instead of 6/30/17 -- which is worth more than $60. I think they intentionally throw some of this stuff at you to make sure you're a pennypinching mercenary who is likely to fit in.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 11:18 PM (EzgxV)

275 269 Causal relationship between schizophrenia and tattooing?
Posted by: Insomniac

Puts brand new meaning to "this design speaks to me"

Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at December 20, 2016 11:18 PM (C+vbB)

276 It's past my bedtime.. night horde. Goodnight eldest spawn!

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 20, 2016 11:19 PM (yTnCT)

277 That doesn't bother me at all. A person there has been convicted of a crime, and deprived of their freedom by due process of law as it were, charged and convicted by a jury.

The parole board just decides who to give a break.

In this case we're talking about depriving someone of their freedom out of the blue, who hasn't committed a crime yet, much less been convicted and sentenced.

You're giving that special class of credentialed professionals the power to do what otherwise requires due process of law, conviction by a jury in a court of law.



Logical.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2016 11:19 PM (SRKgf)

278 Yes, Merkel is an Ossi (East German).

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 20, 2016 11:19 PM (mgbwf)

279 Posted by: GnuBreed at December 20, 2016 11:08 PM (oZEJt)

Also the song, "Renegade" from the LP Steppenwolf 7 is about his escape from E. Germany.

Also Stepenwolf should be in the Rock 'N Roll Hall of Fame. They were hosed.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 20, 2016 11:19 PM (voOPb)

280 My grandson made his first Christmas ornament at school today. Brought it home and the Grandma visiting from Kansas made the mistake of hanging it just a bit too low on the tree before they all went out to dinner.

Oh No! The dingo ate my baby's ornament!

Dog is on the shit list. I laughed.

Posted by: cfomahm at December 20, 2016 11:20 PM (RfzVr)

281 270 I'll be working Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Years Eve, and New Years Day in case anybody wants to stop by, say hi and bring some food or booze.

Sheesh. Can't wait to get out of here.
Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 20, 2016 11:17 PM (D2vc1)

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I would if I could.

Posted by: SMFH at December 20, 2016 11:20 PM (CRotO)

282 And my husband's nephew smokes marijuana, and has an aunt with schizophrenia. Nephew is in his late 20s and no signs yet of schizophrenia.
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In my crappy part time job, I know quite a few recreational drug users. In fact, I'd say 50% of my department, if not more.

That being said, I have a theory. I suspect that many of the people I know have emotional disorders or personality disorders. They HAVE to use drugs to level off their personality to be able to cope with work/life.

Illegal drugs: self-medication for those who can't/won't see a psychiatrist.

Posted by: shibumi who needs new anti rage medication at December 20, 2016 11:20 PM (5BiTL)

283 #165 honest question: has he been around since the FBA got schlonged, or are we just now dealing with witty socks?


Posted by: redc1c4 at December 20, 2016 10:47 PM (0kXpQ)

Yes, I've seen him around in his original form, once in awhile. Will Bynn appears from time to time as a mocksock.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 11:20 PM (tHwdc)

284 I have one right here in my study, a few feet away
from where I'm sitting right now. Hell, in the run up to the fall of the
Berlin Wall I think I could've bought a T-72 if I'd had enough money.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2016 11:10 PM (SRKgf)


If you had stood by the railroad tracks long enough the Russian troops would have dumped one at your feet as they made room for more plumbing supplies to take back to the Rodina.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 20, 2016 11:21 PM (9MInk)

285 I self medicate with coffee

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 20, 2016 11:22 PM (Om16U)

286 234-- As the mother of a nearly 11 yr old girl, I can testify that it is true... It would be easier to remove the molars from a rabid badger than it is to remove glitter from ANYTHING...

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 20, 2016 11:08 PM (yTnCT)
-----------------------------
As the mother of two girls in their 20's, I can testify that glitter is indeed a permanent, irremovable substance in the domestic universe.
The science is settled and the Law of the Conservation of Glitter shall never be overturned.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 20, 2016 11:22 PM (Nox3c)

287 I'm doing pre-preparation to becoming a CPA

-
Born To Be Mild

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 20, 2016 11:23 PM (Nwg0u)

288 274 Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 11:18 PM

I would definitely agree with waiting on your initial dues. Best of luck on the move as well. That area of the country is beautiful, and not a socialist paradise!

Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at December 20, 2016 11:23 PM (C+vbB)

289 I self medicate with coffee
--

Not the same.

Posted by: shibumi who needs new anti rage medication at December 20, 2016 11:23 PM (5BiTL)

290 I've read that virtually all schizophrenics smoke cigarettes...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 20, 2016 11:23 PM (kP16F)

291
Did anyone else start laughing their asses off when the Celtic Women started singing "Bring us pudding"?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 20, 2016 11:23 PM (LuZz8)

292 @262. >>>The biggest 100th anniversary observances might be over here. Check your "blue" areas for local listings.

Funny, Russia is now out of favor with the left
But when Bernie Sanders got married it was a fine honeymoon destination

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 20, 2016 11:24 PM (voOPb)

293 MisHum, re new pic: Brrrrrrr!!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 10:48 PM (EzgxV)

Looks like something right out of Frozen.
It makes me feel ... bleu.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 11:24 PM (tHwdc)

294 G'night Mother....... it's all clear we can break out the cocaine

Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at December 20, 2016 11:24 PM (C+vbB)

295 279: steppenwolf belongs in the hall of fame before fucking green day. to me though, it's a badge of honor if you're not in the hall. it's a joke.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 20, 2016 11:24 PM (KP5rU)

296 Zettai Ryoiki:
259 I still have one of my original dog tags... Religion: "No Pref".

Not Protestant-B?

http://tinyurl.com/hswhjpt

Posted by: FOAF at December 20, 2016 11:25 PM (p0JMG)

297 G'night Mother....... it's all clear we can break out the cocaine
Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at December 20, 2016 11:24 PM (C+vbB)


Bad news, it looks like the strippers found it. I'm gonna need a tarp, a sawzall, and a couple bags of lye.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 20, 2016 11:25 PM (FYrz1)

298 What about the schizo who has had 50 or more contacts with the police but not arrested ( temporarily detained though) simply because they are diagnosed as schizophrenic.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 20, 2016 11:26 PM (IDPbH)

299 256 Some might call it a slippery slope but at some point you must be able to declare someone a danger to society and force institutionalization.

Ain't no "might" to it.

Any Means given to Government will be used for Political Ends sooner rather than later.

Watched the news lately ? Seen anybody out there just dying to get hold of the power to institutionalize folks that are a danger to society ?

Posted by: SD at December 20, 2016 11:14 PM (z3TGX)

This was a tool of Stalin's regime. Don't agree with the party? Express thoughts inconsistent with doctrinaire Marxism? Only a crazy person would do that, off to the asylum you go!

Leftists in America using this would get ugly very quickly. You won't bake a wedding cake for a ghey couple because you're Christians? Crazy, off to the asylum! Homeschool? Believe in the second amendment? Limited government? The Constitution? Crazy, crazy, crazy and crazy! Off to the asylum!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 20, 2016 11:26 PM (3wfnv)

300 Who's going to divorce first mooch or Clinton?
It won't be the Mooch- she needs a sugar "daddy" for her lifestyle.

Posted by: free tibet, and all that other sh*t at December 20, 2016 11:26 PM (CL76w)

301 The first thing a Google search turns up for Bill
Wynn is a lawyer, coincidentally just over the way from me in
Spartanburg, SC.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 10:50 PM (DW+jj)


He did claim that he was affiliated with the august body of the Chamber of Commerce.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 11:26 PM (tHwdc)

302 I would if I could.

Posted by: SMFH at December 20, 2016 11:20 PM (CRotO)

Appreciate the thought!!

Make sure to update us too as to when Carl's service is, please. Had my road trip all planned for this Friday, then happened to see the delay. Fridays are my only day off.

Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 20, 2016 11:26 PM (D2vc1)

303 247 Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at December 20, 2016 11:09 PM (C+vbB)

Well hello there ya miserable brat!!!

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 20, 2016 11:11 PM (yTnCT)


Umm.....



Hey, look over there *pointing upwards and behind the screen* -- is that the Winged Victory of Samothrace?!?!?!?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 11:26 PM (EzgxV)

304 Good evening everyone

My response to snake in the tree,

"And He will crush your (snake's) head"

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 20, 2016 11:26 PM (hipNa)

305 297 G'night Mother....... it's all clear we can break out the cocaine
Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at December 20, 2016 11:24 PM (C+vbB)

Bad news, it looks like the strippers found it. I'm gonna need a tarp, a sawzall, and a couple bags of lye.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile

Way ahead of you.....

Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at December 20, 2016 11:27 PM (C+vbB)

306 I've read that virtually all schizophrenics smoke cigarettes...


Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 20, 2016 11:23 PM


I keep telling myself that. But, it's bullshit.

Posted by: otho at December 20, 2016 11:28 PM (lmIoG)

307 280
Oh No! The dingo ate my baby's ornament!

Posted by: cfomahm at December 20, 2016 11:20 PM
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Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 20, 2016 11:28 PM (Nox3c)

308 ....mother of a nearly 11 yr old girl, I can testify that it is true... It would be easier to remove the molars from a rabid badger than it is to remove glitter from ANYTHING...

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Amen!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 20, 2016 11:29 PM (voOPb)

309 Make sure to update us too as to when Carl's service is, please. Had my road trip all planned for this Friday, then happened to see the delay. Fridays are my only day off.
Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 20, 2016 11:26 PM (D2vc1)

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I will.

I am trying to stay upbeat and plan for the Friday after New Years, but it isn't easy.

I am sorry about the delay...

Posted by: SMFH at December 20, 2016 11:29 PM (CRotO)

310 268 Chili, mayhem, whatever honey!

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 20, 2016 11:16 PM (yTnCT)



NO CARROTS!!!!

Posted by: Edna Cochran at December 20, 2016 11:30 PM (EzgxV)

311 125 --deplorable Jay: I tend to get cranky about the whole thing. I'm not advocating wholesale confinement of every one with some flavor of mental illness. (I'd be the first one carted off to the funny farm. Anyone with a blood connection to my mother should be born with a prescription for Paxil in one hand and a prescription for lithium in the other.) But there should have been some middle ground. My mother couldn't have my uncle in our house because he was prone to picking up knives and attacking random people. But he wouldn't stay on his meds without proper oversight. Surely there could have been some arrangement for people like my uncle, some sort of halfway program that would have given him both structure and freedom. Instead, he was simply sent on his way with no resources because at that moment in time he was judged not to be an immediate danger to himself despite a history of violent attacks on members of his family and strangers.

Posted by: Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable cats at December 20, 2016 11:30 PM (iYTF2)

312 My grandson made his first Christmas ornament at school today.

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When I was in the second grade, we made hollow Christmas candles out of crepe paper for our mothers and put candy in the hollow candles. I had to walk about three blocks home with the candy-filled candle (yes, we were free range children in those days) and, I'm not naming any names, but let's just say there was no candy in the candle when I got home.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 20, 2016 11:30 PM (Nwg0u)

313 SMFH, I'd bet that *one* email from an attorney would make Indiegogo see the light. Hope you can get things worked out post-haste...

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2016 11:30 PM (u8kLQ)

314 I am trying to stay upbeat and plan for the Friday after New Years, but it isn't easy.

I am sorry about the delay...

Posted by: SMFH at December 20, 2016 11:29 PM (CRotO)

I'm sure it's not easy. Hang in there young lady.

Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 20, 2016 11:31 PM (D2vc1)

315 Bad news, it looks like the strippers found it. I'm gonna need a tarp, a sawzall, and a couple bags of lye.

I told you could keep the tarp last time.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 11:31 PM (IcT7t)

316 Totalitarians have always abused psychiatry and the notion of mental illness.

In Cuba, I think it was "Aversion to Socialism" or something like that was an official mental disorder. If you oppose the regime, you are of course mentally ill.

Indeed, does anyone doubt our SJW types here would quickly turn any opinion they don't like into a mental disorder. Homophobia. Transphobia. Etc, etc.

This is why this so dangerous.

Yet, there a clear cases where people do need to be "put away".

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 11:32 PM (DW+jj)

317 "Protestant-B"! Cool story...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 20, 2016 11:33 PM (kP16F)

318 313 SMFH, I'd bet that *one* email from an attorney would make Indiegogo see the light. Hope you can get things worked out post-haste...
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2016 11:30 PM (u8kLQ)

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I don't know any lawyers around here, and the thought of trying to get a hold of one this close to Christmas would be an exercise in futility.

I'm gonna have to wait until the New Year.

Posted by: SMFH at December 20, 2016 11:33 PM (CRotO)

319 The Wall. I am old enough to remember when it went up. Woke up in the morning to find out the commies had inprisoned their people. I was young, but I knew it was really bad.

Posted by: cfomahm at December 20, 2016 11:33 PM (RfzVr)

320 >>>I am trying to stay upbeat and plan for the Friday after New Years, but it isn't easy.

Hang in there. An hour at a time. Wish I could do more to help.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 20, 2016 11:34 PM (voOPb)

321 286 234-- As the mother of a nearly 11 yr old girl, I can testify that it is true... It would be easier to remove the molars from a rabid badger than it is to remove glitter from ANYTHING...

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 20, 2016 11:08 PM (yTnCT)
-----------------------------
As the mother of two girls in their 20's, I can testify that glitter is indeed a permanent, irremovable substance in the domestic universe.
The science is settled and the Law of the Conservation of Glitter shall never be overturned.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 20, 2016 11:22 PM (Nox3c)



The fiancee had a coworker, before she got laid off, whose spouse was a "TinkerBell" at WDW in Florida. His comment: "Glitter gets everywhere."

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 11:34 PM (EzgxV)

322 But yet, that's exactly what needs to be done in some cases. You'll hear people talking about how powerless they were when a family member was clearly going batshit and there was nothing they could do until it got to the point the person was violent.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)


Every little while there is a murder and it will be revealed that the mentally ill murderer's family went through the process of having him taken to a facility, he was held 72 hours, then released. Then he committed some violent act.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 20, 2016 11:34 PM (+lVUW)

323 The girl looks hot from the back with the Prome Queen tattoo. Even if spelled correctly, it still makes her look less attractive and like an idiot.

Posted by: Pepe, American Nationalist at December 20, 2016 11:35 PM (AUFdM)

324 PROME QUEEN - @%&(@ spellcheck never works when you need it.

Posted by: mindful webworker - chell specker at December 20, 2016 11:35 PM (5a8XA)

325 Hang in there. An hour at a time. Wish I could do more to help.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 20, 2016 11:34 PM (voOPb)

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Which is why I'm sleeping more.

At least my dreams are merry.

Posted by: SMFH at December 20, 2016 11:35 PM (CRotO)

326 It's unfortunate that once the Soviet Union collapsed and the Warsaw Pact dissolved, we didn't handle the transition better.

For one thing, we should have disbanded NATO then, rather then expand it to Russia's borders.

It would have also been nice if we had somehow been able to help them transition to free-market capitalism, but the West is hardly an exemplar of that at the moment.

It seems like fascism is now the default political/economic system worldwide. In China, which still maintains the symbols and trappings of Communism, the People's Liberation Army owns and operates profit-making businesses.

It is to laugh.

Well, Mussolini is laughing in his grave, anyway.

Posted by: rickl at December 20, 2016 11:36 PM (sdi6R)

327 Leftists in America using this would get ugly very quickly.

Hell ... Rightists in America using this would get ugly very quickly.

I'm always amused ... in an I CAN NOT BELIEVE HOW FUCKING STUPID SOME PEOPLE STILL ARE manner - on how quickly so many Republican Statists so willingly empower Government .... yet act so damn surprised when Democrat Statists use the same Empowerment against them.

What do they think ? Another Obama will never come along ?

Posted by: SD at December 20, 2016 11:36 PM (z3TGX)

328
Isn't Merkerl an East German? I wonder if her open borders fixation is a reaction to living behind the wall.
Posted by: @votermom


Ralph Peters was on Fox saying exactly that and that her Lutheran background had some part in it.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 20, 2016 11:36 PM (IqV8l)

329 The fiancee had a coworker, before she got laid off, whose spouse was a "TinkerBell" at WDW in Florida. His comment: "Glitter gets everywhere."
Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 11:34 PM (EzgxV)

The guy was Tinkerbell? Geez, Disney is taking its ghey friendly thing a bit too far.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 20, 2016 11:36 PM (0mRoj)

330 vertov: For someone of my age the Berlin Wall was simply a fact of life, like the Grand Canyon or Lake Michigan....

I was 9yo when the Wall went up.

Seeing photos of the bodies of attempted escapees hanging on the barbed wire made it clear to me forever that the wall was to keep people in, not out. IOW, prison. (Versus, say, Trump's border wall.)

Our daughter was 9yo when the Wall came down.

The lessons of it were not lost upon my her, either.

Posted by: mindful webworker - build it! at December 20, 2016 11:37 PM (5a8XA)

331 I went to West Berlin in 1964 to play high school basketball ( long story there )


went back in 65 with my family to visit, and took a bus tour one afternoon into East Berlin. There were nets over some of the sidewalks in East Berlin to catch falling plaster and concrete from the recent sh*tty construction.

The wall in some sections still consisted of buildings with the windows bricked up--the building itself was in the east, but the sidewalk immediately outside was in West Berlin. Those photos of people jumping down into blankets are real


and I'm very, very old...

Posted by: Billy Occam at December 20, 2016 11:38 PM (ihtYN)

332 The Wall. I am old enough to remember when it went up. Woke up in the morning to find out the commies had inprisoned their people. I was young, but I knew it was really bad.


That's in my lifetime but not in my memory. I worked in Germany for a few years and had a friend who'd escaped from East Germany*. He hated JFK for not stopping the wall when it started.

*On the other hand, he was the most charismatic liar I've ever known. I don't know if I believe his escape story.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 20, 2016 11:38 PM (mgbwf)

333 299---Posted by: Insomniac at December 20, 2016 11:26 PM (3wfnv)
--------------------------------
Actually, the use of psychiatric commitment as a club against dissidents was much more of a post-Stalinist thing. Stalin just shot you or sent you to the camps. It was the later Soviets who developed more "respectable" means.

It's EXACTLY the kind of thing our Left would do --- clean, non-violent (*wink*wink*,) and pseudo-sciencey.
We have very good reason to fear it, IMO.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 20, 2016 11:40 PM (Nox3c)

334 287 I'm doing pre-preparation to becoming a CPA

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Born To Be Mild

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 20, 2016 11:23 PM (Nwg0u)



You might be surprised. Incidentally, being a CPA is old -- my license is numbered in the 40,000's of California CPAs, and they're well over 110,000 now. Yet North Carolina only has about 20,000 CPAs.


Furthermore, "accounting" and "accountability" are very closely related....which makes it much less mild than it could be.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 11:41 PM (EzgxV)

335 "People who have a greater risk of developing schizophrenia are more likely to try cannabis, according to new research, which also found a causal link between trying the drug and an increased risk of the condition."

I took a psyc class this last fall, as a field trip, we went to small facility people can go to after the hospital but before a half-way house.
The resident I interviewed is schizophrenic, and could not keep major parts of his life story consistent.

He got bad enough to need the hospital, as far as his doctors could tell, due to smoking a crap batch of marijuana.

Posted by: Lumpy at December 20, 2016 11:41 PM (y/bte)

336 >> Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable cats

It is such a shame that in the name of peoples's *civil rights* we have completely abandoned taking care of the mentally ill. They don't all need to be locked up and mistreated as happened so much in the past, but leaving them to fend for themselves on the street with no one to make sure they take their meds does not seem to compassionate either.

Posted by: cfomahm at December 20, 2016 11:41 PM (RfzVr)

337 So settle this argument for me. Who was the first to incorporate the Air tube guitar solo. Joe Walsh or Peter Frampton?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 20, 2016 11:41 PM (6Ll1u)

338 260 Watching Old Navy commercial with Amy Schumer. Holy Crap she's huge.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 20, 2016 11:14 PM (IDPbH)


I've seen that. Why on earth are they using her to sell clothes?
Beer I can see, you want to drink it to get the image of her out of your brain. But clothes?

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 20, 2016 11:42 PM (+lVUW)

339 I know one psychiatrist, a sixtyish lady, who is herself diagnosed as manic depressive.
She didn't diagnose herself.

Posted by: navybrat at December 20, 2016 11:44 PM (w7KSn)

340 Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable cats
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I am intrigued by your nic and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: shibumi who needs new anti rage medication at December 20, 2016 11:44 PM (5BiTL)

341 Ronald Reagan will be remembered for leading the United States during a time of tremendous international transition - the demise of the Soviet Union, the Berlin Wall coming down, and the end of the Cold War. Mary Landrieu

Yeah, like he was just standing around with his hands in his pockets while all of the "international transition" was happening around him, instead of working day and night to make it happen.

Landrieu can eat a bag of dicks.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 20, 2016 11:44 PM (xDfZq)

342 So settle this argument for me. Who was the first to incorporate the Air tube guitar solo. Joe Walsh or Peter Frampton?

Frampton says Walsh did it first, why argue?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hxlfpdc (sfw)

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 11:44 PM (IcT7t)

343 To augment kbdabear's pics, here's some of this past week's Undie Run at Chapman University in Orange, California. (The students do it twice a year.)

http://tinyurl.com/hjoxkov

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2016 11:44 PM (u8kLQ)

344 338 260 Watching Old Navy commercial with Amy Schumer. Holy Crap she's huge.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 20, 2016 11:14 PM (IDPbH)

I've seen that. Why on earth are they using her to sell clothes?
Beer I can see, you want to drink it to get the image of her out of your brain. But clothes?
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 20, 2016 11:42 PM (+lVUW)

She wasn't always quite this chunky either. I stumbled across some early stand-up footage of her and didnt look anywhere near as heavy.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 20, 2016 11:45 PM (0mRoj)

345 >>>Landrieu can eat a bag of dicks.

She has, on a regular basis

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 20, 2016 11:45 PM (voOPb)

346 Reagan, Thatcher, PJII

I wonder if Trump will get similar allies.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 20, 2016 11:46 PM (Om16U)

347 260 Watching Old Navy commercial with Amy Schumer. Holy Crap she's huge.
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So, that's Amy Schumer. The commercial is really creepy, and says "Shibumi, you don't need to shop at Old Navy."

Reminds of the black woman comedian who was doing I think an Allstate commercial a while back. It was supposed to be funny. I found it creepy.

Posted by: shibumi who needs new anti rage medication at December 20, 2016 11:46 PM (5BiTL)

348 Got a merry little fire going in the woodstove. Marlowe is snoozing, the fat, lazy, irreplaceable bastard, on the hearth rug. Two flannel-wrapped bricks warming in anticipation of bedtime. Glass of port, slab of mozzarella, a few tomatoes. Life is good.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 20, 2016 11:47 PM (FUMmy)

349 Seems like now is a hell of a time for a little CS Lewis ...

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

Posted by: SD at December 20, 2016 11:47 PM (z3TGX)

350 Well I thank you like I do, in a Rocky Mountain Way

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 20, 2016 11:47 PM (6Ll1u)

351 279 Also the song, "Renegade" from the LP Steppenwolf 7 is about his escape from E. Germany.

Link, with lyrics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2lRcxlYx40

Thanks again, Mis Hum. Very cool to know stuff.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 20, 2016 11:47 PM (oZEJt)

352 Good night horde

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 20, 2016 11:47 PM (Om16U)

353 Pretty funny video about white libs explaining that voter ID laws are "racist" followed by black peoples' response to that.

youtube.com/watch?v=odB1wWPqSlE

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 20, 2016 11:47 PM (v3DL/)

354 Posted by: SD at December 20, 2016 11:36 PM (z3TGX)

Caps and Bold. I'm guessing only really smart people do that.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 20, 2016 11:48 PM (IDPbH)

355 As the mother of two girls in their 20's, I can testify that glitter is indeed a permanent, irremovable substance in the domestic universe.
The science is settled and the Law of the Conservation of Glitter shall never be overturned.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 20, 2016 11:22 PM (Nox3c)



Well, it's obvious that vampires are the most often so afflicted. Sucks to be a vampire, whut?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 20, 2016 11:48 PM (v5iqM)

356 Prome Queen?

IT'S FUNNY 'CUZ THEY DIDN"T SPELL 'PROMISCUOUS' RIGHT.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at December 20, 2016 11:49 PM (eeTCA)

357 Got a merry little fire going in the woodstove
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I made a fire in the fireplace last night; haven't had one in a really, really long time.

Much to my surprise, it freaked out the cat. She was disconcerted all evening, and super skittish this morning. Thankfully, she's finally calmed down.

["Crisis at Casa Shibumi: What IS Wrong with The Cat?"]

Posted by: shibumi who needs new anti rage medication at December 20, 2016 11:49 PM (5BiTL)

358 You're giving that special class of credentialed professionals the power to do what otherwise requires due process of law, conviction by a jury in a court of law.

That is a terrible power to give someone.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)


That's true, but someone has to make the decision. There are people out there who are very dangerous, not because they're criminals, but because they're mentally ill. I can think, off the top of my head, of three horrible murders in my area committed by people who were "off their meds". The family members feel helpless because they try to get help, and the system intakes the person for 72 hours, then turns him loose.

These were completely senseless murders. The victims hadn't done anything to anger the person.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 20, 2016 11:50 PM (+lVUW)

359 Lived in Anchorage, AK for a few years. The change in daylight never felt "ever so minutely" at any time of year. Always seemed we were gaining or losing 45 minutes a week.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at December 20, 2016 11:50 PM (WV40F)

360 Caps and Bold. I'm guessing only really smart people do that.

When you can't refute the message ... attack the messenger.

Posted by: SD at December 20, 2016 11:50 PM (z3TGX)

361
In 1939, Alvino Rey, amateur radio operator W6UK, used a carbon throat microphone wired in such a way as to modulate his electric steel guitar sound.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_box

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 20, 2016 11:51 PM (IqV8l)

362 That's true, but someone has to make the decision. There are people out there who are very dangerous, not because they're criminals, but because they're mentally ill.

We agree !!!

Posted by: Progressives Everywhere at December 20, 2016 11:53 PM (z3TGX)

363 That's true, but someone has to make the decision. There are people out there who are very dangerous, not because they're criminals, but because they're mentally ill. I can think, off the top of my head, of three horrible murders in my area committed by people who were "off their meds". The family members feel helpless because they try to get help, and the system intakes the person for 72 hours, then turns him loose.

These were completely senseless murders. The victims hadn't done anything to anger the person.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 20, 2016 11:50 PM (+lVUW)




you're making the freedom for security trade.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 11:56 PM (cPsPa)

364 Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 11:56 PM (cPsPa)

What freedom is she exchanging?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 20, 2016 11:57 PM (IDPbH)

365 >>Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Alvino Rey. Now that's a blast from the past. I have not thought of him in years, but gosh back when I was a kid it was a treat to see him on TV.

Must go searching now on youtube. Thanks for jogging my memory.

Posted by: cfomahm at December 20, 2016 11:58 PM (RfzVr)

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 11:58 PM (cPsPa)

367 Posted by: Progressives Everywhere

So whoever is using this sock. You think that the guy would murdered "Trump" in a Walmart parking lot should have been left alone if he had told people his plan the day before?

Posted by: Lumpy at December 20, 2016 11:58 PM (y/bte)

368 Wow,1939, before Les Paul and Mary Ford and over dubbing.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 20, 2016 11:58 PM (hCPw2)

369 Born To Be Mild

Heh. Heh. Heh.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 20, 2016 11:59 PM (oZEJt)

370 357. Heh. Marlowe is a feral who took pity on me and moved in. Lazy thing, too - we have mice here, and he just sort of mews, very sadly, when one gets in his kibble bowl. After my kids, my angel, and a few of my dearest little 'nieces, ' he's one of the best things ever happened to me.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 21, 2016 12:01 AM (FUMmy)

371 If you'll just let us ... we'll stop all this senseless violence from ever happening ... before it starts.

Somebody has to make the decision.

Posted by: Progressives Everywhere at December 21, 2016 12:02 AM (z3TGX)

372 358 You're giving that special class of credentialed professionals the power to do what otherwise requires due process of law, conviction by a jury in a court of law.

That is a terrible power to give someone.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)

That's true, but someone has to make the decision. There are people out there who are very dangerous, not because they're criminals, but because they're mentally ill. I can think, off the top of my head, of three horrible murders in my area committed by people who were "off their meds". The family members feel helpless because they try to get help, and the system intakes the person for 72 hours, then turns him loose.

These were completely senseless murders. The victims hadn't done anything to anger the person.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 20, 2016 11:50 PM (+lVUW)



Just up two posts on the main blog, you have "the wages of hate" about some guy shooting a UPS guy because he believed him to be Donald Trump. I had a coworker 30 years ago who believed she recognized one of her school chums from behind in a department store -- snuck up and playfully nipped him on the back of his neck. When he turned around and wasn't the right guy, she passed out cold. Under the law, how do you distinguish these?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 12:03 AM (EzgxV)

373 Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 12:03 AM (EzgxV)

Are you being sarcastic?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 21, 2016 12:05 AM (IDPbH)

374 I had an uncle I never met because he spent his life in the New Jersey state insane asylum (Ancora). A flock of idiots (aka "busybodies") decided one fine day that since there had been some incidents of families locking away members of the family for less than legitimate reasons in their friendly local mental institution, no adult, however incapable of taking care of themselves, should be placed in a mental facility against their will. Accordingly, my uncle was asked if he wanted to remain at Ancora, and he said "no". So the state authorities kicked him loose. The last reliable sighting of him was on Skid Row in Camden, NJ.

So many of these mentally ill homeless would be in facilities where they are kept on their meds and off the streets if the busybodies hadn't thrown the baby out with the bathwater. But the busybodies are always the first to point the finger when it is mentioned that so many homeless are mentally ill.

Posted by: Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable cats at December 20, 2016 10:34 PM (iYTF2)



Yes, another tragedy facilitated by the left.

Asylums all over the US fell because of liberal activists. Asylum inmates were cared for and healthy. Many asylums were somewhat self sustaining - inmates maintained gardens and food animals such as sheep, goats and chickens which gave them a positive activity, a sense off self-worth, and offset the cost of operations.

I think is was a case in Florida that did it.


Posted by: gNewt at December 21, 2016 12:06 AM (FS/ip)

375 Got an idjit on Twitter claiming that the Medina texts aren't actually part of the Koran and that all true Muslims hold that to be true...

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 21, 2016 12:07 AM (vBeA5)

376 Drinking alcohol at a young age certainly has no ill effects....

THC simply brings out more of who you are. The other night I ingested about 45 mg of cannabis sativa (30 in a capsule and 15 sublingual). I spent the next several hours playing keyboards along to different arrangements of the Celtic tune "O Son do Ar" (to which I wrote lyrics years ago while stoned), working on a meet confer letter in a discovery dispute (re-reading it today at the office, it was pretty good though needed some minor editing), and then wrapping up with a play-along to a raucous version of the old Northumbrian tune "The Collier's Daughter". I would do that sober, but it's just so much more intense when stoned, like turning up the color saturation button on TVs back in the day.

Even when I did suffer from the commonly-induced paranoia (which my brain has adapted to), I would hear "voices" which I would trace to wind blowing through a pipe or some natural sound. I was fascinated how my brain tried to make sense of it. This is exemplified by when I would watch the foreign language channel while high -- my brain would try to turn Chinese into some kind of English, no matter how nonsensical. However, Japanese, which I was studying, it left alone. Same with German. In fact, listening to German when I'm stoned, I have an intuitive feel for what I'm hearing even though I can't tell you word-for-word what I heard.

If I had to choose, I'd give up alcohol.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 21, 2016 12:07 AM (KAi1n)

377 excuse me. but reagan didn't just happen to be around during a time of transition, he caused the transition. an important distinction. ahem. you're welcome.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 21, 2016 12:09 AM (WTSFk)

378 So I win right? Joe Walsh was before the Frampton.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 21, 2016 12:10 AM (6Ll1u)

379 ... and as patton famously said: tanks a lot.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 21, 2016 12:10 AM (WTSFk)

380 For something a little different, I just stumbled across this on ZeroHedge. Krugman has been making noises about how terrible Trump's economic team is. His cabinet is a bunch of "gold bugs", say der Krugmeister. Also white supremacists.

Anyway, they dug up this famous Krugman prediction from 1998:

"The growth of the internet will slow drastically, as the flaw in Metcalfe's Law -- ... -- becomes apparent: Most people have nothing to say to each other! By 2005 or so, it will become clear that the internet's impact on the economy has been no greater than the fax machine's."

Beautiful.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 21, 2016 12:11 AM (DW+jj)

381 373 Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 12:03 AM (EzgxV)

Are you being sarcastic?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 21, 2016 12:05 AM (IDPbH)



Let me make one thing abundantly clear, going in -- YES, I know there's a difference. But how can you craft a law that puts all of the A's in category A, and none of the B's; while putting all of the B's in category B, with none of the A's. That's why I said, "under the law".

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 12:12 AM (EzgxV)

382 Got to change locations. Y'all take care of the blog and I'll try to come back later to see how you did. If I don't get trapped between dimensions.

* waves hands, like Dr Strange, steps through sparkly portal *

Posted by: mindful webworker - #NeverDormammu at December 21, 2016 12:13 AM (5a8XA)

383 Krugman is the Ehrlich of the financial world.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 21, 2016 12:14 AM (89T5c)

384 Here's my big thing about involuntary commitment -- You lose your 2nd Amendment right to purchase firearms. And in places like CA, they will even come into your home and grab them.

In the case of essential liberty vs. safety, I come down on the side of Franklin.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 21, 2016 12:14 AM (oZEJt)

385 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 21, 2016 12:11 AM (DW+jj)

That's awesome. His arrogance doesn't allow him to give himself an out in his statement as most people know to do when you make economic predictions.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 21, 2016 12:14 AM (IDPbH)

386 Posted by: SMFH at December 20, 2016 11:12 PM (CRotO)

You're very welcome. Check your inbox.

Tomorrow: THE FROSTING! Any preferences? Multicolored jimmies? Red sugar sprinkles? Green? I also have the tiny little balls.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 21, 2016 12:15 AM (tHwdc)

387 I wrote yesterday on Twitter, that for the next four to eight years, no one should EVER say ANYTHING to Krugman (in cyberspace or meatspace), other than:

"You mad, bro?"

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 21, 2016 12:15 AM (u8kLQ)

388 playboy.com/articles/playboy-interview-donald-trump-1990


worth the read

Posted by: Bigby's Pinky at December 21, 2016 12:15 AM (U0lQa)

389 Miley, LOL. For a second I thought you had typed "multicultural jimmies."

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 21, 2016 12:15 AM (u8kLQ)

390 Lady Merkbeth.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2016 11:13 PM (u8kLQ)



Awesome

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 21, 2016 12:16 AM (tHwdc)

391 > made a fire in the fireplace last night; haven't had one in a really, really long time.
Much to my surprise, it freaked out the cat. She was disconcerted all evening, and super skittish this morning. Thankfully, she's finally calmed down.
["Crisis at Casa Shibumi: What IS Wrong with The Cat?"]
Posted by: shibumi who needs new anti rage medication at December 20, 2016 11:49 PM (5BiTL)

I can see how an older cat could freak if she knew that cold dark empty space, but suddenly found it transformed into the gaping maw of crackling Hellfire!

Posted by: Slave to feeding a Woodstove for the next 3 months at December 21, 2016 12:16 AM (g6yUI)

392 So I win right? Joe Walsh was before the Frampton.

Yes.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 21, 2016 12:16 AM (IcT7t)

393 Miley, thanks!

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 21, 2016 12:16 AM (u8kLQ)

394 Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 21, 2016 12:15 AM (tHwdc)

Phrasing. Phrasing my dear.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 21, 2016 12:16 AM (voOPb)

395 High guys.

Yeah, marijuana is the worst.

It kills your short term memory, and it also...does some other stuff I can't remember

Posted by: DC in River City, Team Mattis at December 21, 2016 12:16 AM (9LDED)

396 "But how can you craft a law that puts all of the A's in category A, and none of the B's; while putting all of the B's in category B, with none of the A's. That's why I said, "under the law"." Posted by: cthulhu


This is the core of the debate, I think.

Posted by: Lumpy at December 21, 2016 12:17 AM (y/bte)

397 I don't spend my life reading your long over wrought screeds, make it shorter bub.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 21, 2016 12:17 AM (6Ll1u)

398 376 Drinking alcohol at a young age certainly has no ill effects....

THC simply brings out more of who you are. The other night I ingested about 45 mg of cannabis sativa (30 in a capsule and 15 sublingual). I spent the next several hours playing keyboards along to different arrangements of the Celtic tune "O Son do Ar" (to which I wrote lyrics years ago while stoned), working on a meet confer letter in a discovery dispute (re-reading it today at the office, it was pretty good though needed some minor editing), and then wrapping up with a play-along to a raucous version of the old Northumbrian tune "The Collier's Daughter". I would do that sober, but it's just so much more intense when stoned, like turning up the color saturation button on TVs back in the day.

Even when I did suffer from the commonly-induced paranoia (which my brain has adapted to), I would hear "voices" which I would trace to wind blowing through a pipe or some natural sound. I was fascinated how my brain tried to make sense of it. This is exemplified by when I would watch the foreign language channel while high -- my brain would try to turn Chinese into some kind of English, no matter how nonsensical. However, Japanese, which I was studying, it left alone. Same with German. In fact, listening to German when I'm stoned, I have an intuitive feel for what I'm hearing even though I can't tell you word-for-word what I heard.

If I had to choose, I'd give up alcohol.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 21, 2016 12:07 AM (KAi1n)



Years ago and far away, I found that I could listen to the second violin playing as if he were a soloist -- which is an interesting effect with practical uses.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 12:17 AM (EzgxV)

399 Schizophrenia is generally attributed to genetic factors. I'm not an advocate of the wacky weed but I can't imagine a connection between consumption and the manifestation of psychosis.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 20, 2016 10:07 PM (n3MnG)

But maybe some people with psychosis feel the need to self-medicate with the pot.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2016 12:17 AM (MiBfH)

400 Anyway, they dug up this famous Krugman prediction from 1998:

"The growth of the internet will slow drastically, as the flaw in Metcalfe's Law -- ... -- becomes apparent: Most people have nothing to say to each other! By 2005 or so, it will become clear that the internet's impact on the economy has been no greater than the fax machine's."

Beautiful.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 21, 2016 12:11 AM (DW+jj)

Wow. Just wow.

Why would anybody ever listen to someone who spouted off such idiotic drivel?

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 21, 2016 12:17 AM (X52ZZ)

401 SFGoth and cthulhu, well hey.

I know that professional translators, can both *hear* words being said and *speak* (in a different language no less) at the same time. Call me crazy but IMHO that's got to be a tough skill to learn, I would think a person would almost have to figure out how to rewire their brain a little bit.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 21, 2016 12:19 AM (u8kLQ)

402 Surely Merkel and the CDU are well and truly fucked.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 20, 2016 10:46 PM (97XyN)



Yup, it was some kind of celebration of how wonderful immigration is.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 20, 2016 11:14 PM (+lVUW)

Check out this guy. I don't always agree with him, but in this case he's right on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JfM9GBBwns

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 21, 2016 12:19 AM (tHwdc)

403 399 Schizophrenia is generally attributed to genetic factors. I'm not an advocate of the wacky weed but I can't imagine a connection between consumption and the manifestation of psychosis.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 20, 2016 10:07 PM (n3MnG)

There are genetic factors, but it's not always expressed. Apparently pot can activate it, from the sound of it.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 21, 2016 12:19 AM (X52ZZ)

404 Speaking of mental illness...Looks like that freakazoid Eichenwald is going to get the twitter info on the person that sent him the tweet that allegedly caused his fake seizure (that his wife seemed so unconcerned with that she picked up tweeting while it was allegedly going on). Fake news says the seizure- inducing tweet was a reaction to Eichenwald's "tough" reporting on PE Trump. No mention of Eichenwald's lack of evidence and obvious instability.
Crazy people in crazy times.

Posted by: LASue at December 21, 2016 12:19 AM (R2dMB)

405 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2016 12:17 AM (MiBfH)

That's definitely the catch 22 loop with depression and alcohol .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 21, 2016 12:20 AM (IDPbH)

406 397 I don't spend my life reading your long over wrought screeds, make it shorter bub.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 21, 2016 12:17 AM (6Ll1u)



This is somehow the story of my life.....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 12:20 AM (EzgxV)

407 Got the ham today.

9.5lbs+, $15 bucks. ( fat cap evident. )

Extra honey purchased.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 20, 2016 10:17 PM (ZBp8/)

Smart move. By the time Putin's done, ain't gonna be no Turkey.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2016 12:20 AM (MiBfH)

408 AOP: *rimshot* ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 21, 2016 12:21 AM (u8kLQ)

409 Wow....a couple I know, for the last 10-12 years or so, hosts a big blowout NYE party, maybe 50 or 60 friends in their big apartment. Since 2008 they've had a picture of the JEF and his wife on their fridge. Well, they're too sad to have the party this year. I know another couple who throws a big Christmas Eve party. I wonder if they'll do the same. I can't conceive of deriving so much of their identity and self image from politics.

Posted by: vivi at December 21, 2016 12:21 AM (11H2y)

410
Let me make one thing abundantly clear, going in -- YES, I know there's a difference. But how can you craft a law that puts all of the A's in category A, and none of the B's; while putting all of the B's in category B, with none of the A's. That's why I said, "under the law".


You can't, because the people who enact the laws and carry out the laws aren't perfect.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2016 12:22 AM (+lVUW)

411 Here in my hometown, we have a Honeybaked location (which also doubles as a "Honeybaked Cafe" sometimes, though I've *never* seen anyone actually eating there).

Anyway, you wouldn't believe the traffic in and out of that mini mall at Easter, Thanksgiving and Christmas time. The city even has to post some basic barriers and signs.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 21, 2016 12:22 AM (u8kLQ)

412 Crazy people in crazy times.

They'll be back in charge eventually.

Hey !!! Let's start putting people in Psych Wards again !!!

Posted by: SD at December 21, 2016 12:23 AM (z3TGX)

413 405 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2016 12:17 AM (MiBfH)

That's definitely the catch 22 loop with depression and alcohol .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 21, 2016 12:20 AM (IDPbH)



Is it possible I know you under a different nic?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 12:23 AM (EzgxV)

414 404
Speaking of mental illness...Looks like that freakazoid Eichenwald is
going to get the twitter info on the person that sent him the tweet that
allegedly caused his fake seizure (that his wife seemed so unconcerned
with that she picked up tweeting while it was allegedly going on). Fake
news says the seizure- inducing tweet was a reaction to Eichenwald's
"tough" reporting on PE Trump. No mention of Eichenwald's lack of
evidence and obvious instability.

Crazy people in crazy times.





Posted by: LASue at December 21, 2016 12:19 AM (R2dMB)

If only it were Charles Johnson's throbbing memo gif.

Posted by: davidt at December 21, 2016 12:24 AM (XoldI)

415 411. Tamales. I've got orders in with two abuelas and one Mexi-MILF for Christmas tamales. Also, getting cabrito to bring to the colonel's for Christmas, in addition to probably ten pounds of shashlik I've got marinating now.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 21, 2016 12:25 AM (FUMmy)

416 Media delenda est. Root and branch. Goodnight, all. still hungover from yesterday!

Posted by: vivi at December 21, 2016 12:25 AM (11H2y)

417 "that freakazoid Eichenwald is going to get the twitter info on the person that sent him the tweet"


Hopefully the Judge, etc, will check to see if there was such a tweet actually sent first.

Posted by: Lumpy at December 21, 2016 12:26 AM (y/bte)

418 You can't, because the people who enact the laws and carry out the laws aren't perfect.

We'll get it mostly right. You can trust us. Promise.

Posted by: Progressives Everywhere at December 21, 2016 12:26 AM (z3TGX)

419 I like ham

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 21, 2016 12:28 AM (6Ll1u)

420 Thank you Miley : )

Don't really have a preference. I'm sure that anything you make will turn out great.

Posted by: SMFH at December 21, 2016 12:29 AM (CRotO)

421 419 I like ham

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 21, 2016 12:28 AM (6Ll1u)


Any particular kind?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 12:30 AM (EzgxV)

422
Since 2008 they've had a picture of the JEF and his wife on their fridge.

JFK's photo was displayed in many Catholic homes when he was prez.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 21, 2016 12:31 AM (IqV8l)

423 I like pie.

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 21, 2016 12:31 AM (ZLQuU)

424 I don't think anyone has ever made xmas cookies for me...huh.

Posted by: SMFH at December 21, 2016 12:31 AM (CRotO)

425 415. 'Overkill,' you might say, but my angel has four sisters, all with kids, five aunts, both parents. Add in my three spawn, and you need a lot of chow.

Colonel will be dancing with his shashka and kinzhal - the bladesmith is polishing them now - after dinner. Great things are afoot.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 21, 2016 12:31 AM (FUMmy)

426 My mom has had a shrine to Obama since 2008...

Posted by: SMFH at December 21, 2016 12:32 AM (CRotO)

427 Krugman is a piece of work. For the past 8 glorious years, the only criticism Krugs had of any deficit was that it wasn't big enough. Same with "infrastructure" spending, not big enough. That was the problem with Barky's stimulus, not big enough.

Now, he's started to get worried about deficits and debt. And he doesn't like Trump's infrastructure stuff either. It's tax cuts for the rich and killing all the wonderful programs for the poor, like Obamacare.

Remember on election night when it became clear Trump would win, how the market threw a little hissy fit and shit the bed, Dow futures down nearly 1000 points. Krugs said the market would likely never recover from Trump's election. Within 24 hours, it was not only recovered, but one might say was going into "irrational exuberance" mode, as Greenspan famously said. And I am worried about that as we close in on Dow 20K.

WIth Brexit, the market hissy fit lasted about 5 days. With Trump, it lasted 24 hours. And with the Italeave vote, it lasted about 8 hours or so.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 21, 2016 12:33 AM (DW+jj)

428 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 21, 2016 12:31 AM (FUMmy)

---

You're a lucky man.

Posted by: SMFH at December 21, 2016 12:33 AM (CRotO)

429 Shrines. The local stop and rob has one to the Agha Khan. The guy behind the counter was shocked when I pointed it out and named him. 'Ismaili, eh?' I said. Could have knocked him over with a feather.

'How do you know him?' 'Who doesn't?' I asked.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 21, 2016 12:35 AM (FUMmy)

430 Ok, I'm totally stealing Mexi-MILF

No credit will be given. I would say I'm sorry, but, well...I'm not.

Posted by: DC in River City, Team Mattis at December 21, 2016 12:35 AM (9LDED)

431 424 I don't think anyone has ever made xmas cookies for me...huh.

Posted by: SMFH at December 21, 2016 12:31 AM (CRotO)



We were always making the cookies with the godkids. It's easier that way, because we don't have to be so concerned that they're actually edible.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 12:35 AM (EzgxV)

432 Well I was wrong. The little puppy was not crying trapped in her penned up area. Sneaky little girl is an escape artist and climbed over the gate sometime after I left and was running around free as a bird.

Posted by: buzzion at December 21, 2016 12:36 AM (cAnNx)

433 428. I am. I'm blessed beyond my merit.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 21, 2016 12:36 AM (FUMmy)

434 397 I don't spend my life reading your long over wrought screeds, make it shorter bub.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby


? Which one? I'm certainly not over wrought. I'm perfectly calm! REALLY! I'll calm down! Don't take me away to the lefty camps for crazed moronettes!

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2016 12:36 AM (+lVUW)

435 A Virgina ham is always good

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 21, 2016 12:36 AM (6Ll1u)

436 My mom wasn't the cookie-baking sort, cooth.

Baked the girls cookies when they were little.

Pretty much it.

Posted by: SMFH at December 21, 2016 12:36 AM (CRotO)

437 Brianna Wu is running for Congress...

https://twitter.com/mombot/status/811413794589028352

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 20, 2016 10:34 PM (vBeA5)

Isn't "she" a cunterfeit woman?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2016 12:37 AM (MiBfH)

438 Miley, LOL. For a second I thought you had typed "multicultural jimmies."

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 21, 2016 12:15 AM (u8kLQ)

You laugh - I almost did!

---------
Phrasing. Phrasing my dear.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 21, 2016 12:16 AM (voOPb)

You like the tiny little balls, yes?

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 21, 2016 12:38 AM (tHwdc)

439 430. Use it in good health, sir. 'Dust-bunny' is another one, used to name a cutie who has been out of circulation for a while.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 21, 2016 12:38 AM (FUMmy)

440 401
I know that professional translators, can both *hear* words being said and *speak* (in a different language no less) at the same time. Call me crazy but IMHO that's got to be a tough skill to learn, I would think a person would almost have to figure out how to rewire their brain a little bit.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 21, 2016 12:19 AM (u8kLQ)
----------------------------
I have a very close friend who is a simultaneous interpreter.
They start their training by "translating" in one language. That is, they learn to listen to speeches in their native language and (almost) simultaneously paraphrase in the same language. This takes months of practice.

Then they move on to hearing the foreign language and speaking the native one. If they are genuinely bilingual, they can also learn to go the opposite direction.

The exercises they do are pretty fascinating.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 21, 2016 12:38 AM (Nox3c)

441 JFK's photo was displayed in many Catholic homes when he was prez.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 21, 2016 12:31 AM (IqV8l)


When I was in junior high, after Kennedy's assassination I told my dad that he should be canonized a saint. My dad laughed and muttered something about politicians.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2016 12:40 AM (+lVUW)

442 Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 21, 2016 12:38 AM (tHwdc)

It cracked me up

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 21, 2016 12:42 AM (voOPb)

443 429--- 'Who doesn't?' I asked.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 21, 2016 12:35 AM (FUMmy)
-------------------------

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 21, 2016 12:42 AM (Nox3c)

444 Margarita, hmmm... :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 21, 2016 12:42 AM (u8kLQ)

445 429 Shrines. The local stop and rob has one to the Agha Khan. The guy behind the counter was shocked when I pointed it out and named him. 'Ismaili, eh?' I said. Could have knocked him over with a feather.

'How do you know him?' 'Who doesn't?' I asked.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 21, 2016 12:35 AM (FUMmy)



Heh. Local liquor store also run by Ismaeli -- we used to talk and talk. One brother was in London, family in Kenya....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 12:43 AM (EzgxV)

446 Brianna Wu is running for Congress...

https://twitter.com/mombot/status/811413794589028352

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 20, 2016 10:34 PM (vBeA5)

Isn't "she" a cunterfeit woman?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2016 12:37 AM (MiBfH)


I ain't the one who's gonna verify that...

Posted by: The Cis-hat at December 21, 2016 12:43 AM (vBeA5)

447 Who the fuck goes hiking in Afghanistan while seven months pregnant???

Oh.

These people.

Both kids born in captivity. They, I feel sorry for.

Their idiotic parents, not so much.

http://tinyurl.com/gqndbb3

Posted by: SMFH at December 21, 2016 12:44 AM (CRotO)

448 445. Odd group, the ismaili. Descendents of the original Assassins, more or less. Only group persecuted worse within islam are the druze, near as I can tell.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 21, 2016 12:45 AM (FUMmy)

449 I don't spend my life reading your long over wrought screeds, make it shorter bub.

Oh?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 21, 2016 12:46 AM (IcT7t)

450 Posted by: SMFH at December 21, 2016 12:44 AM (CRotO)

Almost made genius award

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 21, 2016 12:46 AM (voOPb)

451 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 21, 2016 12:38 AM (FUMmy)

Nosy question again:

Did you score a date with that dance mom who wanted the leather whip, or whatever it was?

I think you should give a seminar.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 21, 2016 12:47 AM (Jcg9Q)

452 Years ago and far away, I found that I could listen to the second violin playing as if he were a soloist -- which is an interesting effect with practical uses.

Posted by: cthulhu

I noticed the same thing recently too! I started following 2nd violin counterparts in some music I listen to and it came naturally. THC is a very complex and fascinating chemical.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 21, 2016 12:48 AM (KAi1n)

453 The New York Times quotes Coleman appealing directly to President Fuckstick for help before he leaves office: "Please don't become the next Jimmy Carter. Just give the offenders something so they and you can save face, so we can leave the region permanently."

---

"Help us Obama-wan-kenobi...you're our only hope!"

Maybe you should have NOT hiked in Afghanistan while preggers, lady.

Posted by: SMFH at December 21, 2016 12:48 AM (CRotO)

454 451. It was just a crop I made for her. She's married. Lady might be kinky, but I'd wager she's faithful.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 21, 2016 12:49 AM (FUMmy)

455 448 445. Odd group, the ismaili. Descendents of the original Assassins, more or less. Only group persecuted worse within islam are the druze, near as I can tell.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 21, 2016 12:45 AM (FUMmy)


And largely for the "crime" of locating themselves where the money is and making some of it.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 12:49 AM (EzgxV)

456 So, raise your hand if you a portrait of JFK and MLK in your house growing up.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 21, 2016 12:50 AM (6Ll1u)

457 451. Heh....and my angel was with.me when we met. It was she who gave me the go-ahead for the commission.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 21, 2016 12:50 AM (FUMmy)

458 Dunno if still true, but the Aga Khan Foundation used to be a very interesting development outfit. Staffed (minimally) by retired British diplomats and other savvy experienced sorts. Had very few projects they would undertake. Would budget them for long periods. No b.s. tolerance.


Top shelf, in every way. Most NGOs I encountered had integrity and good motivation and there was usually lots of competence and responsibility. But the AKF was in a different class.


One had the feeling that every dollar one put into an AKF project was money well spent, or as well spent as any such money can be on projects of that sort.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 21, 2016 12:50 AM (QDnY+)

459 349 Seems like now is a hell of a time for a little CS Lewis ...

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
Posted by: SD at December 20, 2016 11:47 PM (z3TGX)

I am a big fan of CS Lewis, and that passage is among my favorites.

Posted by: Halfwise, Deplorable at December 21, 2016 12:52 AM (rB/gm)

460 Heh....and my angel was with.me when we met. It was she who gave me the go-ahead for the commission.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 21, 2016 12:50 AM (FUMmy)

Ha, ok.

Still think you should give some 'rons a seminar. : )

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 21, 2016 12:52 AM (Jcg9Q)

461 458. So I've heard. I know the foundation has been on the cutting-edge of literacy and educational programs, and are involved in distance education, bigly.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 21, 2016 12:53 AM (FUMmy)

462 Hey, wait. Long over-wrought screeds are kind of MY specialty here. Someone horning in on my turf?


Well, maybe not over-wrought. But too long.


Missed my chance, back when, a beloved ONT regular with a penchant for pugnacity chided me for long comments. I just agreed in an agreeable short comment.


Considered just saying "OK". Would have been better, whether or not the humor got through.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 21, 2016 12:54 AM (QDnY+)

463 460. You flatter me, sir. But if anything, I'm living proof that it's not looks or cash or anything other than a combination of personality, opportunity, and persistence.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 21, 2016 12:55 AM (FUMmy)

464 456 So, raise your hand if you a portrait of JFK and MLK in your house growing up.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 21, 2016 12:50 AM (6Ll1u)



Growing up, there were some memorial and souvenir books around from roughly 1965 that had JFK on the cover. I also inherited a copy of "The First Family" on vinyl. Not as much from MLK.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 12:56 AM (EzgxV)

465 G'night everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 21, 2016 12:57 AM (IcT7t)

466 Night all.

Here is "Mercury Ocean" by The Bad Light:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVfHdaaOI3o

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 21, 2016 12:57 AM (vBeA5)

467 nite Blanco

Posted by: SMFH at December 21, 2016 12:57 AM (CRotO)

468 Both kids born in captivity. They, I feel sorry for.

Their idiotic parents, not so much.

http://tinyurl.com/gqndbb3
Posted by: SMFH at December 21, 2016 12:44 AM (CRotO)


I don't feel sorry for any of them. The parents are idiots and their children would likely grow up to be idiots as well. Stupid leftists who don't know jack shit about the world outside what their professors tell them and think that somehow *they'll* be ok.

Fuck. Them.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 21, 2016 12:58 AM (FYrz1)

469 You flatter me, sir. But if anything, I'm living proof that it's not looks or cash or anything other than a combination of personality, opportunity, and persistence.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 21, 2016 12:55 AM (FUMmy)

My pleasure. : )

Well since most of us 'rons probably don't have much in the way of cash or looks, and the other three we have apparently aren't enough at the moment, could be right up our alley.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 21, 2016 12:59 AM (Jcg9Q)

470 >>I am a big fan of CS Lewis, and that passage is among my favorites.


That passage could be used once a week in quotes of the day

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 21, 2016 12:59 AM (voOPb)

471 I grew up near Boston as damn near the only non-Catholic in the 60s.

Everybody's mantle had a portrait of JFK and one of Jesus.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 21, 2016 01:00 AM (mgbwf)

472 463. And practice. Hell, I was flirting with the checkout girl at the local Wal-Mart at five this morning. There's no rush for a man over forty like that of seeing a girl half your age smile shyly and blush when you speak with her.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 21, 2016 01:00 AM (FUMmy)

473 The kids are young enough that they can be rehabilitated.

I'm not gonna fault those babies for the idiocy of their parents.

Posted by: SMFH at December 21, 2016 01:00 AM (CRotO)

474 Who knew Kramer made bagels? Festivus for the rest of us.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 21, 2016 01:03 AM (6Ll1u)

475 *stumbles into room, laughing*

Oh, ohhhh, this is just soooo rich!

CalExit peeps are so upset about hackerz what got Trump elected... and then they turn around and open an "embassy" in...

wait for it....

f'n Russia! Bwahaha!

*stumbles out, still chucking*

Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 21, 2016 01:04 AM (044Fx)

476 Anyway, they dug up this famous Krugman prediction from 1998:

"The growth of the internet will slow drastically, as the flaw in Metcalfe's Law -- ... -- becomes apparent: Most people have nothing to say to each other! By 2005 or so, it will become clear that the internet's impact on the economy has been no greater than the fax machine's."

Beautiful.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)

Economists are best explaining whey they were wrong yesterday.

Posted by: Jean at December 21, 2016 01:05 AM (2RVmA)

477 I also inherited a copy of "The First Family" on vinyl.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 12:56 AM (EzgxV)



OMG, I remember listening to that as a little kid! I couldn't figure out why the President and his family would make a funny record.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 21, 2016 01:06 AM (tHwdc)

478 I've been bad and stayed up way too late. Goodnight, Horde!

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 21, 2016 01:09 AM (tHwdc)

479 "Sebastian Melmoth" -- see if you can send me contact info via trusted backchannel. It'd be best if the trusted person could confirm your usual nic. Mind you, you need not supply your most-used email addy; and I need not contact you from one I've used for anything else.....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 01:09 AM (EzgxV)

480 476. Heh..... 'assume a can-opener,' as the old punchline says

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 21, 2016 01:10 AM (FUMmy)

481 >>>Not sure where you are located but your humble Cob has already has had his share of "winter" weather.

I wonder if they will have the gall to declare December to be "the warmest December in recorded history" like they've been doing over the past several months. They just cannot seem to help themselves.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 21, 2016 01:12 AM (rH4JY)

482 Everybody's mantle had a portrait of JFK and one of Jesus.

DANG!

Who knew John Fcuking Kerry was that popular?!? Maybe he should run for President ...

Posted by: Adriane the History Critic ... at December 21, 2016 01:14 AM (AoK0a)

483 471 I grew up near Boston as damn near the only non-Catholic in the 60s.

Everybody's mantle had a portrait of JFK and one of Jesus.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 21, 2016 01:00 AM (mgbwf)

And https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl1NQi_Vit0

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 01:14 AM (EzgxV)

484 What good is tearing down the Berlin wall, if only a few decades later Merkel tears down Germany? As Hillary might say, what difference, at this point, does it make?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 21, 2016 01:15 AM (rH4JY)

485 Can you tell me how in the fuck that they can remake all in the family?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 21, 2016 01:20 AM (6Ll1u)

486 >>>481.....wonder if they will have the gall to declare December to be "the warmest December in recorded history" like they've been doing over the past several months. They just cannot seem to help themselves.


November was quite warm I knew we would pay for it sooner or later

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 21, 2016 01:21 AM (voOPb)

487 What good is tearing down the Berlin wall, if only a few decades later Merkel tears down Germany?

Based on that theory why have a fire department? Any building they might save tonight, might yet burn down some time in the future ...

Posted by: Adriane the History Critic ... at December 21, 2016 01:22 AM (AoK0a)

488 ok I just got distracted by Last Man Standing and Im laughing my ass off

Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at December 21, 2016 01:25 AM (C+vbB)

489 Or the Jefferson's

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 21, 2016 01:25 AM (6Ll1u)

490 'Checkpoint Charlie' barely registers in the autocucumber these days. Damn.

Posted by: JEM at December 21, 2016 01:26 AM (TppKb)

491 485 Can you tell me how in the fuck that they can remake all in the family?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 21, 2016 01:20 AM (6Ll1u)



Countdown to The Odd Couple.....5...4...3...

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 01:27 AM (EzgxV)

492 Jerst watched 11. 22 . 63 and pooped muh pants.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 21, 2016 01:28 AM (ZBp8/)

493 not realizing that they are simultaneously advocating an increase in the number of women working in higher-paying, but higher-risk occupations like fire-fighting,

LOL. Women fire-fighters are among the dumbest idea of the century. The physical requirements of a fire-fighter just don't really allow for the stupidity of delusional gender equality.

When women are fire-fighters the real risk is borne by everyone else. Affirmative action bean counting in fire-fighting is bad enough, as it is.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2016 01:29 AM (zc3Db)

494 Can you tell me how in the fuck that they can remake all in the family?

It'll be way more politically charged than the original-- and the 'Meathead' and 'Gloria' characters will win every argument about everything, all while insulting conservatives throughout the dialog. Same shit as always, just new title.

Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 21, 2016 01:29 AM (044Fx)

495 * sparkly portal opens *
* long-bearded man dressed in strange furs and helmet emerges, having aged several years *

Well, that was a trip! Glad to be back.

Posted by: mindful webworker - out of the mists of time at December 21, 2016 01:29 AM (U/u2R)

496 Shrines. The local stop and rob has one to the Agha Khan. The guy behind the counter was shocked when I pointed it out and named him. 'Ismaili, eh?' I said. Could have knocked him over with a feather.

'How do you know him?' 'Who doesn't?' I asked.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 21, 2016 12:35 AM (FUMmy)

Ismailis seem to be about the only muslims I know of who are overwhelmingly pleasant folks to deal with.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2016 01:30 AM (MiBfH)

497 And https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl1NQi_Vit0
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 01:14 AM (EzgxV)



Heh. Perfect.

How did you know I'm Irish and acoholic?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 21, 2016 01:31 AM (mgbwf)

498 Gotta tell this now lest I forget by pet thread time.

This morning, the in-town cat did not run to greet us at the door as he usually does. Turns out he had somehow slipped into the bathroom and was stuck in there overnight. (No soft places to sleep but at least he was warm.)

Tonight, as we were preparing to leave for home, we went to clean the catbox as usual, and found it hadn't been used. Oh, yeah: Because he wasn't loose all night.

So, went to check the bathroom and found... paw prints on a toilet seat and poop in the pot! Really, cat?

So, I'm thinking, put a cat bed in there and put him in the bathroom every night - no more catbox cleaning!

Posted by: mindful webworker - cat man do at December 21, 2016 01:31 AM (U/u2R)

499 When Trump gets the Quandt family to relocate BMW corporately to the US he will be anointed a God.

Posted by: JEM at December 21, 2016 01:31 AM (TppKb)

500 493 not realizing that they are simultaneously advocating an increase in the number of women working in higher-paying, but higher-risk occupations like fire-fighting,

LOL. Women fire-fighters are among the dumbest idea of the century. The physical requirements of a fire-fighter just don't really allow for the stupidity of delusional gender equality.

When women are fire-fighters the real risk is borne by everyone else. Affirmative action bean counting in fire-fighting is bad enough, as it is.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2016 01:29 AM (zc3Db)



Puh-leaze!!!! Us CPAs are offended when our honest beancounting is subverted by virtue-signaling by SJWs...

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 01:32 AM (EzgxV)

501 Based on that theory why have a fire department? Any building they might save tonight, might yet burn down some time in the future ...

Posted by: Adriane the History Critic


Oh I agree, at the time it was a positive development. But looking back, to see it squandered, thrown away, it fills me with a sense of futility and disgust. Out of the frying pan into the fire.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 21, 2016 01:37 AM (rH4JY)

502 497 And https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl1NQi_Vit0
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 01:14 AM (EzgxV)


Heh. Perfect.

How did you know I'm Irish and acoholic?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 21, 2016 01:31 AM (mgbwf)


Like recognizes like?


Ask Chi -- who comes from a different tradition. When I wronged him, I showed up with bourbon to park myself on his front stoop until he accepted my apology. Other cultures crumble before us....until someone needs to be sober.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 01:40 AM (EzgxV)

503 I've really been trying to hoping to shift back to early-to-bed early-to-rise, but it's hard to do when I sit here and read ONT comments endlessly.

But here goes another attempt. I'm not gonna sit here and read ONT comments 'til 3am. Sad as that sounds, missing all the fun.

Carry on, ye wayward 'rons!

Posted by: mindful webworker - shrinks into distance at December 21, 2016 01:40 AM (U/u2R)

504 Billy Squier says you must stroke it

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 21, 2016 01:43 AM (6Ll1u)

505 "Help us Obama-wan-kenobi...you're our only hope!"

Maybe you should have NOT hiked in Afghanistan while preggers, lady.


That is some Darwin award level stupidity right there. Given all the cases of aid workers, reporters, contractors, tourists etc. who have been kidnapped and killed, in the ME, it's nuts to travel to the ME on a lark like they did.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 21, 2016 01:43 AM (rH4JY)

506 Well, I am fading fast. Night, all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2016 01:46 AM (MiBfH)

507 503 I've really been trying to hoping to shift back to early-to-bed early-to-rise, but it's hard to do when I sit here and read ONT comments endlessly.

But here goes another attempt. I'm not gonna sit here and read ONT comments 'til 3am. Sad as that sounds, missing all the fun.

Carry on, ye wayward 'rons!

Posted by: mindful webworker - shrinks into distance at December 21, 2016 01:40 AM (U/u2R)



Somehow, I'm thinking this should sound like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihy9uWSqsNM

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 01:49 AM (EzgxV)

508 Went to see "Arrival" tonight.

Fantastic. Movie got out two hours ago and I am still smiling.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 21, 2016 01:58 AM (YR6ni)

509 437 Brianna Wu is running for Congress...

https://twitter.com/mombot/status/811413794589028352

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 20, 2016 10:34 PM (vBeA5)

Isn't "she" a cunterfeit woman?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2016 12:37 AM (MiBfH)

++++

Birth name = John Flynt.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/02/13/
the-wacky-world-of-wu-the-tortured-history-
of-gamergates-self-styled-feminist-martyr/

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 21, 2016 02:00 AM (R+30W)

510 82 Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 20, 2016 10:22 PM (1aDmL)

I'm glad you have started your life again and wish you the best. But I must ask why six months to get an ID? Did you not know the process?

I knew the process. But I had no money, no phone, no internet at the time. You need a birth certificate. To get that I had to have a credit/debit card and a place to mail it to. Proof of residency. I had to get admitted to a homeless shelter to get that, still fighting the bed bugs that invested everything there even though I've gone through 4 different states since. A social Security card. I had mine stolen with my wallet. I had to walk everywhere, no money for a bus. There are some other documents you can present such as utility bills, bank statements. But I had none of those things. It took People lending me there internet capable devices, paying for the fees and such. When you're homeless with no ID you spend 10-12 hours trying to collect recyclables to maybe make $10 a day on a good day. Some days you'd get to the recycling center and they close early or never opened at all. You just had to leave what you collected because you had no where to put them. I ate out of trash some days. I knew what had to be done but had no way of doing it. I'm now back to making a three figure income. But I lost everything and have seen how people treat you less than human. How dogs are treated better than humans.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 21, 2016 02:04 AM (1aDmL)

511 Fading as well.

'Night all.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 21, 2016 02:06 AM (Jcg9Q)

512 Noah Bawdy, it's a brave thing to tell your story so raw.

Welcome.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 21, 2016 02:07 AM (mgbwf)

513 Brianna Wu is running for Congress...

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 20, 2016 10:34 PM (vBeA5)

Birth name = John Flynt.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 21, 2016 02:00 AM (R+30W)


LOL. SO he not only is pretending to be a woman but is pretending to be Oriental, too. Hey ... might as well go all the way.

I looked at the Breitbart article. You can easily tell it's a guy. He looks just like Eric Idle.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2016 02:07 AM (zc3Db)

514 92 64 At this time last year, I was homeless. I also had no ID, my wallet was stolen and I had lost everything else. Without ID you can not travel (I lived in Hawaii at the time). You can not get assistance or a job. It took me over six months to finally get an ID and then get my life started again.
Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 20, 2016 10:22 PM (1aDmL)
====

Do you smoke lots of weed?
Do you have schizophrenic disorders?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 20, 2016 10:28 PM (EZebt)

I haven't smoked weed since my 20s. I'm 54. I was 53 when I was homeless. No, I did not suffer from any mental illness prior to becoming homeless. You might suggest I had some mental problems while being homeless but you try having no where to sleep. Being told to move on when you do find some place or being ripped off while you're sleeping. You try getting 2 to 4 hours MAYBE a night for months on end. So yeah, I'd get angry as hell and scream at the world because all I wanted was some sleep, a shower, some food. You're just like almost everyone I encountered while I was homeless. You assumed a bunch of crap about me rather than deal with the fact that bad things happen to good people.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 21, 2016 02:10 AM (kI9U5)

515 510 82 Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 20, 2016 10:22 PM (1aDmL)

I'm glad you have started your life again and wish you the best. But I must ask why six months to get an ID? Did you not know the process?

I knew the process. But I had no money, no phone, no internet at the time. You need a birth certificate. To get that I had to have a credit/debit card and a place to mail it to. Proof of residency. I had to get admitted to a homeless shelter to get that, still fighting the bed bugs that invested everything there even though I've gone through 4 different states since. A social Security card. I had mine stolen with my wallet. I had to walk everywhere, no money for a bus. There are some other documents you can present such as utility bills, bank statements. But I had none of those things. It took People lending me there internet capable devices, paying for the fees and such. When you're homeless with no ID you spend 10-12 hours trying to collect recyclables to maybe make $10 a day on a good day. Some days you'd get to the recycling center and they close early or never opened at all. You just had to leave what you collected because you had no where to put them. I ate out of trash some days. I knew what had to be done but had no way of doing it. I'm now back to making a three figure income. But I lost everything and have seen how people treat you less than human. How dogs are treated better than humans.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 21, 2016 02:04 AM (1aDmL)



I can well understand the difficulties in doing a reboot, where you don't have the address to get the ID that gives you access to the address.....but I'm interested in two particular points -- how did you spiral into this? And, did you contact churches? [Including, BTW, the Salvation Army -- which is actually a church dedicated to the proposition that you save souls by going to places souls are in danger.]

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 02:12 AM (EzgxV)

516 God Bless bless you and keep you, Noah Bawdy.

I am sorry you suffered so much. Your courage and fortitude in getting back on your feet are commendable.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 21, 2016 02:14 AM (YR6ni)

517 93 82. In most places, you need a verifiable physical address to get ID. That, in turn, requires income for rent, utilities, etc., to demonstrate that you reside there. It's a chicken and egg problem.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 20, 2016 10:28 PM (FUMmy)

EXACTLY. For me to get proof of residency I had to get someone to certify that I was homeless, then wait my turn to get into a disgusting bed bug infested homeless shelter. I had to stay there for two months before they would write the letter stating I lived there. Only then could I get an ID. (By that time I had the other stuff I needed). But I'm still fighting the damned bed bugs to this day after moving to 4 different states. I think the only way I shall be rid of them is to burn the last few things I own including my clothing.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 21, 2016 02:14 AM (1aDmL)

518 That's a smart cat.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 21, 2016 02:19 AM (VdICR)

519 516 God Bless bless you and keep you, Noah Bawdy.

I am sorry you suffered so much. Your courage and fortitude in getting back on your feet are commendable.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 21, 2016 02:14 AM (YR6ni)



This.



I hope you see our other bumbling inquiries as working towards solving problems rather than anything else.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 02:21 AM (EzgxV)

520 Glad to see you've made it back. What started the cycle?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 10:31 PM (EzgxV)

A VERY bad consulting gig. They kept cheating me out of my hours. My roommate kicked me out and I had nowhere to go. I spent most of the last of my money on a hostel. Then I was out in the street. My "friends" never offered to put me up on a couch or even shower. I found a friend that stored what few things I had left for a while, but other than that all I had was what I could carry with me. All of my other "friends" gave me nothing except the occasional meal at a restaurant or slipping me 10 or 20 bucks. Some upon seeing me just turned around and walked the other way. One night I was exhausted and just collapsed into sleep before finding a somewhat safe place. I woke up maybe 45 minutes later to find someone had cut my back pant pocket down the middle and stolen my wallet while I was asleep.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 21, 2016 02:21 AM (kI9U5)

521 520 Glad to see you've made it back. What started the cycle?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 10:31 PM (EzgxV)

A VERY bad consulting gig. They kept cheating me out of my hours. My roommate kicked me out and I had nowhere to go. I spent most of the last of my money on a hostel. Then I was out in the street. My "friends" never offered to put me up on a couch or even shower. I found a friend that stored what few things I had left for a while, but other than that all I had was what I could carry with me. All of my other "friends" gave me nothing except the occasional meal at a restaurant or slipping me 10 or 20 bucks. Some upon seeing me just turned around and walked the other way. One night I was exhausted and just collapsed into sleep before finding a somewhat safe place. I woke up maybe 45 minutes later to find someone had cut my back pant pocket down the middle and stolen my wallet while I was asleep.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 21, 2016 02:21 AM (kI9U5)



Where was this; when was this; and what field of consulting was this?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 02:23 AM (EzgxV)

522 Posted by: Noah Bawdy

Dayum. Now that's goin' Galt. Sorta. Glad you were able to extract yourself from that spot. Personally, I no longer give to panhandlers because I've been burnt too many times. Like the time I offered to purchase a person with an "I'm hungry" sign a hamburger and they said no thanks.

I frequent the local casinos, and oh the stories of woe I have heard. Some of them may have even been true.
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 20, 2016 10:32 PM (oZEJt)

I never asked for money. I never put up a sign. No of that shit. And the homeless people I made friends with never did that either. We looked down on them. We did what we could to survive as much as we could on our own. If someone offered us money or food or other necessities we were thankful. But we never begged.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 21, 2016 02:25 AM (1aDmL)

523 LOL. SO he not only is pretending to be a woman but is pretending to be Oriental, too. Hey ... might as well go all the way.

I looked at the Breitbart article. You can easily tell it's a guy. He looks just like Eric Idle.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair


He's "married" to a Chinese dude named Wu. I'm guessing he took his surname in order to "prove" what a real woman he is. You'd think someone in his position would be able to afford better facial work.

And this is hilarious, he really wouldn't like it in this place:

"There are hints of the mannerisms that would later become so-called social justice policing in her wrongheaded outrage over the word "sammiches," which she mistakes as a racist word but is in fact merely a colloquial American term for sandwiches."

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 21, 2016 02:25 AM (rH4JY)

524 150 Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 20, 2016 10:22 PM (1aDmL)

Noah, congrats! And prayers for good things to come.
Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at December 20, 2016 10:45 PM (Om16U)

Thank you. This time last year I was sleeping under an outdoor stairwell getting maybe 4 hours sleep a night at best. I had been able to get a TracFone but not many minutes on it at that point. But it's main purpose at that point was the alarm clock to wake me before sunrise so I could leave before I was noticed. I could not go there before midnight to sleep for fear of people seeing me and I had to wake up before people would see me. Occasionally someone would happen upon me but it usually other homeless people and once they got a sense of me they'd go on their way. (I had nothing they could take in other words).

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 21, 2016 02:29 AM (kI9U5)

525 A VERY bad consulting gig. They kept cheating me out of my hours. My roommate kicked me out and I had nowhere to go. I spent most of the last of my money on a hostel. Then I was out in the street. My "friends" never offered to put me up on a couch or even shower. I found a friend that stored what few things I had left for a while, but other than that all I had was what I could carry with me. All of my other "friends" gave me nothing except the occasional meal at a restaurant or slipping me 10 or 20 bucks. Some upon seeing me just turned around and walked the other way. One night I was exhausted and just collapsed into sleep before finding a somewhat safe place. I woke up maybe 45 minutes later to find someone had cut my back pant pocket down the middle and stolen my wallet while I was asleep.
Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 21, 2016 02:21 AM (kI9U5)

---

{{{Noah}}}

Posted by: SMFH at December 21, 2016 02:29 AM (CRotO)

526 Noah,

Isn't it funny that when you're at your lowest, "friends" seem to disappear...

You have friends here.

Posted by: SMFH at December 21, 2016 02:31 AM (CRotO)

527 He's "married" to a Chinese dude named Wu. I'm guessing he took his surname in order to "prove" what a real woman he is.

I see. Very traditional.

You'd think someone in his position would be able to afford better facial work.

And this is hilarious, he really wouldn't like it in this place:

"There are hints of the mannerisms that would later become so-called social justice policing in her wrongheaded outrage over the word "sammiches," which she mistakes as a racist word but is in fact merely a colloquial American term for sandwiches."

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 21, 2016 02:25 AM (rH4JY)


More laughs. But I think the guy who took offense to the term "black hole" still has him beat.

BTW, I wouldn't call "sammiches" a colloquial term. It's a joke term. Of course, that doesn't mean that the OED doesn't have it listed as an official "word" ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2016 02:32 AM (zc3Db)

528 I can well understand the difficulties in doing a reboot, where you don't have the address to get the ID that gives you access to the address.....but I'm interested in two particular points -- how did you spiral into this? And, did you contact churches? [Including, BTW, the Salvation Army -- which is actually a church dedicated to the proposition that you save souls by going to places souls are in danger.]

Churches didn't do shit for me except the occasional meal. Salvation Army never even did that much. The thing is Hawaii has the biggest homeless population per capita of any state in the union. They are simply overwhelmed. The homeless shelter I ended up in was ran by a church and bless them for that even though it was disgusting and humiliating. Without that shelter I'd still be on the streets with no ID, working 10+ hour days collecting recyclable for maybe $10 dollars a day. Once I got ID they also got me a 3 hour a day job at Goodwill hanging trash as I called it. I other words I hung used clothes for a living for 3 hours a day. A friend a a few family members finally pitched in to buy a ticket back to the mainland back in April. I had a consulting gig lined up in just over 2 weeks after I got there. I'm still at the gig. They ended up giving me a 3 figure income, paid for my relocation to San Jose plus per diem. But I've lost almost everything I ever owned. It's just gone. I still have nightmares and I don't look at people the same way I used to. I know what they are capable of. How inhuman they are, or rather how inhuman they think you are when you're homeless.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 21, 2016 02:40 AM (1aDmL)

529 I've gotta zonk it 'cause I've gotta ton o' stuff to do tomorrow.....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 02:40 AM (EzgxV)

530 goodnight cooth

Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at December 21, 2016 02:41 AM (C+vbB)

531 A connection between Mary Jane and schizophrenia? How is this not something obvious from the start - - or are we now going to be bombarded with "no shit Sherlock" reports from the media now that MJ is fully legal in many states?

In other news, a new report finds Marijuana leads to binge eating, loss of memory, slurred speech, uncontrollable laughter, heavy eyelids, and a craving to watch old 70's Cheech and Chong films.

Posted by: Burt Sugarman's Midnight Special Commenting Machine at December 21, 2016 02:42 AM (g9d8D)

532 Sweet dreams, cooth.

Posted by: SMFH at December 21, 2016 02:44 AM (CRotO)

533 528 I can well understand the difficulties in doing a reboot, where you don't have the address to get the ID that gives you access to the address.....but I'm interested in two particular points -- how did you spiral into this? And, did you contact churches? [Including, BTW, the Salvation Army -- which is actually a church dedicated to the proposition that you save souls by going to places souls are in danger.]

Churches didn't do shit for me except the occasional meal. Salvation Army never even did that much. The thing is Hawaii has the biggest homeless population per capita of any state in the union. They are simply overwhelmed. The homeless shelter I ended up in was ran by a church and bless them for that even though it was disgusting and humiliating. Without that shelter I'd still be on the streets with no ID, working 10+ hour days collecting recyclable for maybe $10 dollars a day. Once I got ID they also got me a 3 hour a day job at Goodwill hanging trash as I called it. I other words I hung used clothes for a living for 3 hours a day. A friend a a few family members finally pitched in to buy a ticket back to the mainland back in April. I had a consulting gig lined up in just over 2 weeks after I got there. I'm still at the gig. They ended up giving me a 3 figure income, paid for my relocation to San Jose plus per diem. But I've lost almost everything I ever owned. It's just gone. I still have nightmares and I don't look at people the same way I used to. I know what they are capable of. How inhuman they are, or rather how inhuman they think you are when you're homeless.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 21, 2016 02:40 AM (1aDmL)



Wait, whut? If you're in San Jose, I can meet you and buy you lunch. Look me up tomorrow and we'll make arrangements, but now I'm gone.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 02:45 AM (EzgxV)

534 Where was this; when was this; and what field of consulting was this?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 02:23 AM (EzgxV)

It was September 2015. TEKSystems sub contracted me to another consulting outfit to help 7-11 Hawaii upgrade their SQL Servers to a more current version. This other consulting outfit kept insisting I report half the time I actually spent. TEKSystems left me twisting in the wind. In case you didn't get it, I'm a software developer with over 30 years in the business and 20 years in SQL.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 21, 2016 02:45 AM (1aDmL)

535 *sigh* Oracle and IBM employees angry that their (female) CEOs are working with Trump.

http://www.businessinsider.com/employees-at-ibm-oracle-angry-over-trump-2016-12

Poor guy can't do anything right.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 21, 2016 02:48 AM (rH4JY)

536 Wait, whut? If you're in San Jose, I can meet you and buy you lunch. Look me up tomorrow and we'll make arrangements, but now I'm gone.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2016 02:45 AM (EzgxV)

Yeah. I'm a lead consultant at Valley Health Plan. San Jose. Santa Clara County. Our office is in the heart of Silicon Valley. I pass by Google and PayPal headquarters (among others) every day.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 21, 2016 02:49 AM (kI9U5)

537 Noah, it sounds to me like you might have a good case for a lawsuit against that company. Forcing people to under-report their hours is highly illegal.

If you've still got any means of proving it, or at least convincing a jury, you should have an easy win. You might even be able to make it a class action, if they've done it to other people, and help put a stop to them doing it to anyone else.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 21, 2016 02:57 AM (J+mig)

538 The funny thing is, when I was at the shelter they had a mandatory class on finances and also for job searching. I told them my plan of using various web sites and LinkedIn and how soon I expected to get a job, how much it would pay. How a face to face interview wasn't needed or a paper application for or resume. They looked at me like I was crazy. Well, a little over two weeks after getting back to the mainland I had a new job. No face to face interview (not even a Skype). No physical resume, only a Word document via email. My relocation and first month's hotel rent paid for. Three figure income plus per diem. Been here since April and they love me even though I've had to take a TON of time off do to health issues. I still get more done in one day than all the other consultants or employees get done in a week. Today they pulled me into two high profile meetings to let me observe and get my feedback.
We had solved all of the biggest issues (there were quite a few) by the end of the day. On one project they had number off in the thousands for just one month. We got it down to just over $600. Ok, cool. We can figure out the minor tweaks over the next few days but we more than cleared the 80/20 rule. These projects were stuck. Now they can show progress after just two meetings in the same day. Mind you, this was first exposure to these projects today. ;P

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 21, 2016 03:00 AM (kI9U5)

539 537 Noah, it sounds to me like you might have a good case for a lawsuit against that company. Forcing people to under-report their hours is highly illegal.

If you've still got any means of proving it, or at least convincing a jury, you should have an easy win. You might even be able to make it a class action, if they've done it to other people, and help put a stop to them doing it to anyone else.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 21, 2016 02:57 AM (J+mig)


I know what you're saying, but after everything I just want to move on. The thing is I really miss the life I had in Hawaii and the friends I thought I had there. Nothing will ever bring that back. Also, I'll never be able to see people the same way again. I'll never be able to see myself the same way again. I don't know, it robbed me of ever being happy or having hope again. Even though I have a hotel room with a fridge, microwave, bed, stove, shower. Everything I would have loved when I was homeless. I'm still in a sense homeless. I have almost no possessions any more. I have no friends or family here. My health keeps failing me. I don't know.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 21, 2016 03:08 AM (kI9U5)

540 Once you've survived being broke,homeless, and crazy, it's all gravy.

Been there, done that, no crummy t-shirt.

Posted by: Butch at December 21, 2016 03:12 AM (hXu8T)

541 Well, that's enough I guess. Go back to being a lurker again. I wonder how many of you even remember me from back in the day ?

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 21, 2016 03:12 AM (kI9U5)

542 I remember you from before.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 21, 2016 03:17 AM (VdICR)

543 WE are NOT amused!!1

Posted by: somequeen at December 21, 2016 03:23 AM (jyuiD)

544 "Dr. Phil, I am so confused."

"I'm here to help. Tell me of this confusion, Lena."

"Well, I have my own TV show, and things should be good, right?"

"I'm not sure having your own TV show is a valid form of self-esteem. Perhaps there is a bigger problem, underneath..."

"Are you calling me fat?"

"No, that is not what I said, Lena..."

"People say all kinds of things to me but I know what they are all saying is that I'm fat. I'm fat fat fat fat fat. I'm that fat girl on that T.V. show. Fat girl. Fat."

"Maybe we are coming closer to the source of your pain..."

"It's not my fault, Dr. Phil. When I read about hateful people it drives me to eat. Mean people make me upset, and being upset makes me hungry. There are so many mean, mean people in the world, and it makes me fat. Fat and sad, but the fat part is the worst."

"You do realize that your excessive eating does not help these people, right?"

"But I try to only buy organic Fair Trade foods where brown people are not exploited. I think THAT makes a difference."

"That's commendable, but --"

"--have YOU ever eaten an organic vegan gluten-free Twinkie at three in the morning? They're awful! The creme filling is NOT creamy, it's lumpy and gross! Why is this world so hard?"

"Dealing with the perceived unfairness of the world is an important step to self-understanding, Lena."

"Dr. Phil, sometimes I stand naked in front of the mirror and I am so disgusted with myself I shove Snickers bars up my ass."

"Lena --"

"I want to give those Snickers to mean people and say "Mean People: eat my Ass Snickers."

"Lena, there are doctors who could help you manage your eating and exercise..."

"Sure. But can they stop the voices?"

"You hear voices?"

"The Internet talks to me. I unplug my laptop and turn off my iPhone but I still hear them. Everyone just keeps talking talking talking and all they talk about is how fat I am. They think I don't hear them, but I do."

"I believe you might be manifesting your fears, Lena. Let's try an experiment. Picture yourself thin: what are you doing? What is thin Lena doing?"

"Thin Lena is smearing her poop over pictures of all the people who called her fat. Icky bad people, and I smear them with my poop, and it makes me feel better. Thin Lena poop."

"Does 'Thin Lena' have any... happier thoughts?"

"No, Dr. Phil. Thin Lena is filled with Hate. Deep creamy Hate. They all thought it was funny when I was Fat Lena, but Thin Lena now wants them all to pay. Thin Lena wants People To Die. Thin Lena wants to drink their blood and desecrate their sexual organs and then dance like no one is watching."

"You know, Lena, there may be more here than we can address in a single episode..."

"It's because I'm fat, right? A skinny hour isn't big enough for the Fat Girl..."

"Perhaps we can have you back for another episode, Lena..."

"Did you know I put pebbles in my baby sister's vagina when I was little? Do you think that might have caused me to be fat? Am I fat because I put pebbles in my baby sister's vagina?"

"Lena..."

"Eat my Ass Snickers, America! Eat my Ass Snickers...!"


I am Laslo.

Posted by: Arno-Fethwicke at December 21, 2016 03:27 AM (Qa+nt)

545 Laslo from Althouse?

Posted by: Catwrangler at December 21, 2016 03:35 AM (jLChk)

546 Come to think of it, you'd think she be able to afford bariatric surgery. She does seem to have self disgust issues. She needs to stop blaming others for her (accurate) self impression and do something about it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 21, 2016 04:10 AM (rH4JY)

547 How come a sign in Germany has "You are leaving the American Sector" in English, Russian and French, above the microscopic (presumably in German) reading? I guess humiliate the losers.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 21, 2016 04:13 AM (rH4JY)

548 What a lousy night, was up from 12 to 3.
Good morning horde.

Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2016 04:34 AM (5sOEp)

549 I would think the Germans knew where they were, tourists didn't.

Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2016 04:35 AM (5sOEp)

550 "The fall of the Berlin Wall makes for nice pictures. But it all started in the shipyards.-- Lech Walesa"


Lech is right, but what motivated the Polish workers to organize the Solidarity movement had nothing to do with demanding gradiose things like "freedom" or "soverignty" from the USSR.


I spent some time Poland and spoke with some guys who lived through it. What sparked it off was more about price and cost of living increases and scarcity of needed products with no wage increases. Work more for less. That was the straw that broke the camels back. The state responded by shooting demonstators which accelerated the movment. The state than began ceasing food deliveries and cutting power to those cities that supported the movment. Starving them out as it were. It was a standoff and the state was left with asking for intervention and full scale violence just like others did in Berlin in 53', Budapest in 56' and Prague in 68'. The Polish communist state blinked. That was the beginning of the end.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 21, 2016 04:36 AM (j8rhH)

551 @547 Steve and Cold Bear

"How come a sign in Germany has "You are leaving the American Sector" in English, Russian and French, above the microscopic (presumably in German) reading?"

Because the occupying British, French and Russian forces (45-92') may have not spoke fluent German.


I have a small replica of the sign hanging in my office and had friends man Check Point Charlie at one time or other.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 21, 2016 04:44 AM (j8rhH)

552 What a lousy night, was up from 12 to 3.
Good morning horde.
Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2016 04:34

Hey Skip,
You in CST? I woke up about the same time. Have a day off tomorrow so am staying up for a bit, may or may not be drinking another glass of wine.

The nasty cold has abated here in N IL, we got up to 28 today, after a dip to -16 which really sucked.

Be well. Christmas is coming!

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2016 04:44 AM (o/90i)

553 Est, its 0450hrs

Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2016 04:46 AM (5sOEp)

554 Sister trained her Maine Coon to use the toilet instead of the litter box. Process is to get a cover that fits under the seat and salt it with cat litter. Cut a small hole after it starts to use it regular and slowly make it larger over time. Eventually you will be able to ditch the cover and cat will squat on the seat.

During training, be sure to mention it to company that might try to use the bathroom.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at December 21, 2016 04:54 AM (FtrY1)

555 During training, be sure to mention it to company that might try to use the bathroom.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at December 21, 2016 04:54

That might be considerate if you ever want them to return!

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2016 04:58 AM (o/90i)

556 The sign makes me think of Pontius Pilate putting the same message in three different translations, Latin, Hebrew, Greeek.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 21, 2016 05:01 AM (rH4JY)

557 Greek.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 21, 2016 05:02 AM (rH4JY)

558 @326 rickl

"It would have also been nice if we had somehow been able to help them transition to free-market capitalism, but the West is hardly an exemplar of that at the moment".


JHW Bush did indicate he wanted to do just that, but something funny happened along the way and he lost the 92' election to a serial rapist and sociopathic wife riding his coattails.


To many boomers were so heavily invested in Marxist thought that they ignored the facts and, like a pack of unthinking mastodons, ran off the cliff.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 21, 2016 05:02 AM (j8rhH)

559 555 During training, be sure to mention it to company that might try to use the bathroom.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at December 21, 2016 04:54

That might be considerate if you ever want them to return!

Farmer,
Funny thing is it is now the cats bathroom. People only use it in an emergency. So we are also trained.
Hope you are staying warm with all that Canadian AC blowing in.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at December 21, 2016 05:03 AM (FtrY1)

560 So, for dessert tonight I decided to pan fry a steak, 3 eggs & make 3 pcs of toast. It was a damn good treat.
I get up for 15 seconds for fresh ice & bourbon, and somehow missed that the dog had taken the T-bone bone off the plate. Took me 10 minutes to notice.

I was going to give it to him anyway! BUT NO! He had to steal the fucking thing! Asshole is on restriction until at least Christmas Day. I might not even take him to Mom's to see the rest of the family on Christmas. And he even has a new o utfit to show of...

Posted by: Chi at December 21, 2016 05:03 AM (ZNVto)

561 OK, reconcile this for me. Today I've heard that Angela Mercel was an E. German Commie who turned in her own family members to the Stasi.

Now I just heard that she's the dau of a Lutheran pastor who identifies w/ the oppressed because of the way her family was treated by the Commies.

WTF?

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2016 05:05 AM (o/90i)

562 BBC tv news is saying if I got it right 31 dead in fireworks disaster

Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2016 05:05 AM (5sOEp)

563 Yeah, T - I saw a comment about her turning in her family and my first thought was that she's too young.
I don't know, but I ain't buying that just yet. She obviously hates her county & constituents, but I can't wrap mm y head around her being a Nazi...

Posted by: Chi at December 21, 2016 05:09 AM (ZNVto)

564 I was going to give it to him anyway! BUT NO! He had to steal the fucking thing! Asshole is on restriction until at least Christmas Day. I might not even take him to Mom's to see the rest of the family on Christmas. And he even has a new outfit to show of...
Posted by: Chi at December 21, 2016 05:03

LMAO. Bailey earlier this month ate a whole huge platter of Christmas cookies I brought home from work and our Christmas open house. Azzhole also broke the nice plate the donor brought them in on. I really need to tell her and offer to replace it. Ugggh.

You love your doggehs but sometimes want to kill them.

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2016 05:11 AM (o/90i)

565 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 21, 2016 05:14 AM (u82oZ)

566
561
Merkel is one of those nesting dolls. Normal looking exterior but each nested doll is totally Red.
Don't mistake the East German Lutherans for those tough Catholic Poles.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at December 21, 2016 05:17 AM (FtrY1)

567 If you need to be up and alert, this will wake you up, & in a good way.

Enjoy. http://youtu.be/TbzTcFRiEr0

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 21, 2016 05:18 AM (u82oZ)

568 Good morning!
Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 21, 2016 05:14

Just to let you know I always appreciate that sentiment when you post it. I think the electoral college just did that exact thing yesterday. Hoorah!

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2016 05:22 AM (o/90i)

569 Merkel is one of those nesting dolls. Normal looking exterior but each nested doll is totally Red.
Don't mistake the East German Lutherans for those tough Catholic Poles.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew


Only true Lutherans are those that came here. C.F.W. Walther. LCMS.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 21, 2016 05:22 AM (rH4JY)

570 Yo! Ya'll. Thought I'd get that in before Yo! showed up.

Posted by: Bayou City's Ipad at December 21, 2016 05:29 AM (LKWuH)

571 how are you people still awake?

Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at December 21, 2016 05:32 AM (C+vbB)

572 Farmer, thanks.

I always wanted to ask you about your main crop.

Around me are horse and cattle ranches, the occasional sheep and llama farms, with a few goats. There are a lot of fields of milo, soybeans, corn, and some wheat.

And chickens. Lots of chickens, with peacocks down the hill.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 21, 2016 05:32 AM (u82oZ)

573 Spawn of Mayhem

I like your nic. Very creative.

I'm awake because I have chores. Even when I'm off from work.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 21, 2016 05:35 AM (u82oZ)

574 how are you people still awake?
Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at December 21, 2016 05:32

I'm wondering the same thing. Woke up in the middle of the night and realized I don't have to work tomorrow, my Dad isn't coming till the 25th instead of the 23rd.

Great relief for Jules as far as cooking as she was planning on much more.

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2016 05:37 AM (o/90i)

575 Chi, he knew it was for him because he could get it. And punishments are only effective if they are immediate.

I once had a dog who ate a hole in a Thanksgiving turkey while staying low on the other side of the island while my friend and I readied the rest of the feast!

Posted by: OldDominionMom at December 21, 2016 05:38 AM (GzDYP)

576 Thanks for the perky, Salty!! That was great and made me smile. That should be my alarm ring tone.

I have been working like mad to get here, but I'm finally on vacation! Bring back the light!

Posted by: Gem at December 21, 2016 05:39 AM (uaHyk)

577 Farmer, thanks.
I always wanted to ask you about your main crop.
Around me are horse and cattle ranches, the occasional sheep and llama farms, with a few goats. There are a lot of fields of milo, soybeans, corn, and some wheat.
And chickens. Lots of chickens, with peacocks down the hill.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 21, 2016 05:32

I'm in N IL, corn and soybeans are the ticket here. Farmed the family farm from 1980-2012. They sold the farm 2 yrs after Grandma died at almost 104.

Where are you at NaCly Dog? Sounds like maybe CA?

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2016 05:43 AM (o/90i)

578 Good Morning Morons. I finished the links early this morning. And I went back to sleep intended to cook up a rib-eye some hash browns and eggs. Instead I slept too late and still feel like shit.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 21, 2016 05:44 AM (mpXpK)

579 Good morning Gem. Enjoy your hard-won vacation. The good vacations need a vacation after the vacation.

At this election's watch party, one of the people at the bar had a cell ring tone from James Coburn'd In Like Flint watch. Quite distinctive.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 21, 2016 05:45 AM (u82oZ)

580 Farmer, I'm in the northern Flint Hills of Kansas. The big wheat fields are in the western part of the state.

Use of the smaller lot sizes around here depend on water access. We get a little more rain than western Kansas, so there are a lot of little niches for different types of crops. Before the Corps of Engineers drowned the Blue River valley, the area was known for popcorn.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 21, 2016 05:51 AM (u82oZ)

581 Good Morning Morons. I finished the links early this morning. And I went back to sleep intended to cook up a rib-eye some hash browns and eggs. Instead I slept too late and still feel like shit.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 21, 2016 05:44

Damn, sounds like a good breakfast. I think I'm pulling out some Omaha Steaks out of the pack we got today from SIL & BIL. Yeah, w/ eggs just a little bit runny, yum.

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2016 05:51 AM (o/90i)

582 Vic, I hope you feel better. And top o' tha morning to ya.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 21, 2016 05:52 AM (u82oZ)

583 The label of "Perky" also brought back a lot of memories. l have some 45s in a box somewhere... one of them is "Emotion in Motion" by the Cars... probably the last 45 I ever purchased. I just looked it up, that was 1986. Wow... later than I would have guessed, as far as whether 45s still were still created. And it was a single by Ric Ocasek, not the Cars.

Posted by: Gem at December 21, 2016 05:52 AM (uaHyk)

584 "Sounds like maybe CA?"

LOL
Not laughing at you Farmer.
NaCly understands.

Posted by: teej at December 21, 2016 05:53 AM (gJ3Vg)

585 I have had this achey cold now for almost a week and can't get rid of it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 21, 2016 05:53 AM (mpXpK)

586 Yeah, ODM - Punishment was instantaneous. (It consists of me doing my best and loudest R Lee Ermey impression)
He's been hiding the covers/pillows for hours. If history is any indication, he will show his face around noon, expecting everything to be back to normal.

I like your nic. Very creative.
Posted by: NaCly Dog


It took me a hot minute to remember who Spawn is when I first saw his name again.
Pretty cool to see him here.

Posted by: Chi at December 21, 2016 05:54 AM (ZNVto)

587 OK, reconcile this for me. Today I've heard that Angela Mercel was an E. German Commie who turned in her own family members to the Stasi.

Now I just heard that she's the dau of a Lutheran pastor who identifies w/ the oppressed because of the way her family was treated by the Commies.


Who knows? Might be both.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 21, 2016 05:55 AM (J8/9G)

588 I blame Al Bore for this shit. We have been going from cold as hell rain to warm rain and back to cold as hell rain for a long time now. That SOB must be running in and out of the State.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 21, 2016 05:56 AM (mpXpK)

589 Teej, good morning. Enjoying our heat wave?

26 ℉. I'll take it.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 21, 2016 05:57 AM (u82oZ)

590 Sorry you're not feeling well, Vic.

A lot of people have been sneezing and coughing at work...something is going around.

Time for some coffee...see yinz later!

Posted by: Gem at December 21, 2016 05:58 AM (uaHyk)

591 Yes, teej. We're really in California. LOL. Well, you're closer to Lawrence than I am.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 21, 2016 05:59 AM (u82oZ)

592 Yeah, ODM - Punishment was instantaneous. (It consists of me doing my best and loudest R Lee Ermey impression)

Levels of dog punishment at Schloss Kodos:

1) Simple punishment: One dog is disciplined and the others reassured.

2) Exemplary punishment: One dog is disciplined and no one is reassured.

3) General terror: The rain falls on the just and unjust alike.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 21, 2016 06:01 AM (J8/9G)

593 "Sounds like maybe CA?"
LOL
Not laughing at you Farmer.
NaCly understands.
Posted by: teej at December 21, 2016 05:53

Well what's the inside joke? You both from KS?

I kinda like KC as a place to move south to perhaps when we get tired of this cold in IL.

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2016 06:01 AM (o/90i)

594 NaCly, you're blowing it.

For all you scenery loving liberals, that was a #fakepost.

There are NO hills in Kansas!
It is Flat, Ugly and Dry!
There are only six trees in the entire state and only cousin humping, toothless, deplorable rednecks live here.

Posted by: teej at December 21, 2016 06:01 AM (gJ3Vg)

595 "Well, you're closer to Lawrence than I am."

Don't remind me.
That is a great town to play music in then get the hell out.

Posted by: teej at December 21, 2016 06:05 AM (gJ3Vg)

596 Right, teej. I screwed up those last few posts. Sorry.

Add the cold from the Arctic in winter. Only a fence in Nebraska slows it down, and it's up only some of the time.

And chiggers in summer. Every bit of grass and patch of weeds hides insects that burrow into the flesh to cause you pain. Lots of pain. I hate chiggers.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 21, 2016 06:05 AM (u82oZ)

597 There are NO hills in Kansas!
It is Flat, Ugly and Dry!
There are only six trees in the entire state and only cousin humping, toothless, deplorable rednecks live here.
Posted by: teej at December 21, 2016 06:01

LMAO, but ya'll voted the right way in the Great Election of 2016!

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2016 06:09 AM (o/90i)

598 Yep, and every summer the dust bowl returns.

Farmer, if you like big cities then KC would be okay.
The little towns an hour or so away from there are more my cup of tea.

Posted by: teej at December 21, 2016 06:10 AM (gJ3Vg)

599 Ah the Dust Bowl. FDR's folly.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 21, 2016 06:11 AM (mpXpK)

600 Teej and Farmer, small towns in Kansas run on spite & gossip. But at least they are not Lawrence or Wichita.

I forgot to add about chiggers that they move up the body as you walk, moving for the groin area to burrow in. You can be hit with bites wherever there is a constriction in your clothes.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 21, 2016 06:15 AM (u82oZ)

601 Sometimes I scold our golden bros by accident. The power of my attitude is...strange. They are such Mama's boys!

Posted by: OldDominionMom at December 21, 2016 06:15 AM (GzDYP)

602 Farmer, if you like big cities then KC would be okay.
The little towns an hour or so away from there are more my cup of tea.
Posted by: teej at December 21, 2016 06:10

Xactly, that's what I was kinda thinking of. We live an hour from Chicago in a small town, thinking of moving somewhere near KC, not in the metro area.

Can you shoot me some ideas, my email is below.

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2016 06:15 AM (o/90i)

603 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2016 06:18 AM (J+eG2)

604 Ah the Dust Bowl. FDR's folly.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 21, 2016 06:11

Indeed. For all the love the media claims FDR had he was reviled in rural IL. Many had relatives out west who suffered.

Hope you are feeling better Vic. Be well, please.

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2016 06:19 AM (o/90i)

605 Hi VIA,
We seldom cross paths but I always enjoy your posts when I am catching up.

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2016 06:21 AM (o/90i)

606 That's "causal," not "casual."

You don't become schizophrenic if you toke in your pajamas.

Posted by: RobM1981 at December 21, 2016 06:21 AM (VVBN7)

607 FDR created the "Dust Bowl". He also created the Great Depression. But he is hailed as a liberal God.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 21, 2016 06:22 AM (mpXpK)

608 Vic, please take care of yourself. Our daughter just caught a thing that gave her two infections needing antibiotics w/in a week.

And thank you. I read your posts every morning!

Posted by: OldDominionMom at December 21, 2016 06:24 AM (GzDYP)

609 Who knows? Might be both.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 21, 2016 05:55 AM (J8/9G)

Hypocrisy wouldn't be a new thing from the left.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 21, 2016 06:26 AM (J+mig)

610 608 And thank you. I read your posts every morning!

Posted by: OldDominionMom at December 21, 2016 06:24 AM (GzDYP)

You'er welcome. And I was born in VA.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 21, 2016 06:30 AM (mpXpK)

611 Hypocrisy wouldn't be a new thing from the left.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 21, 2016 06:26

LOL that's fits right in w/ I what just saw. Chuckie Schumer is firing the Senate Dems video staff. Yeah, It's not the message it's the fault of the messenger. Sure.

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2016 06:34 AM (o/90i)

612 Obama and the Dems have done everything they can do to repeat FDR. And they got what they wanted. We have been mired in Great Depression II since 2009, We will not get out of it until Trump kills everything they did.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 21, 2016 06:37 AM (mpXpK)

613 Farmer look in Jefferson, Osage, Jackson, and rural Shawnee and Douglas counties.

Posted by: teej at December 21, 2016 06:37 AM (gJ3Vg)

614 LOL that's fits right in w/ I what just saw. Chuckie Schumer is firing the Senate Dems video staff. Yeah, It's not the message it's the fault of the messenger. Sure.

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2016 06:34 AM (o/90i)

If the Trump Admin doesn't utterly blow it, the Democrats are going to be up the creek for a while to come. They just don't get it. Doubling down on failure didn't work, so they're going all-in.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 21, 2016 06:38 AM (J+mig)

615 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 21, 2016 06:30 AM (mpXpK)

I hope that a republican administration (Northern VA) will help make this state fix it's self.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at December 21, 2016 06:42 AM (GzDYP)

616 Come to think of it, you'd think she be able to afford bariatric surgery. She does seem to have self disgust issues. She needs to stop blaming others for her (accurate) self impression and do something about it.

She hates herself, doesn't believe anyone really means it when they say they love or even like her and is in love with her sadness because, in an odd way, if comforts her.

That's how I see it, anyway.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 21, 2016 06:43 AM (X6fMO)

617 If the Trump Admin doesn't utterly blow it, the Democrats are going to be up the creek for a while to come. They just don't get it. Doubling down on failure didn't work, so they're going all-in.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 21, 2016 06:38

Cato, I think the best move would be to have Keith Ellison as chair of the DNC, nothing like doubling down on stupid.

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2016 06:44 AM (o/90i)

618 I think the best move would be to have Keith Ellison as chair of the DNC, nothing like doubling down on stupid.
________________

I would love to see a muzzie officially heading the party that claims to champion the rights of women, gays, and Jews!

Too damn funny!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 21, 2016 06:49 AM (rgZEV)

619 Looks like JJ is still out today.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 21, 2016 06:50 AM (mpXpK)

620 Farmer, do you want to be an hour away from a big city? Near Art, culture?

What sized town? Over 50 K and you have liberal infestation, but shopping. Any store you can't live without, like Kohls?

I can help if you can narrow it down for me.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 21, 2016 06:52 AM (u82oZ)

621 618 I think the best move would be to have Keith Ellison as chair of the DNC, nothing like doubling down on stupid.
________________

I would love to see a muzzie officially heading the party that claims to champion the rights of women, gays, and Jews!

Too damn funny!
Posted by: TrivialPursuer




Talk about a schadenboner that could be seen from space!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2016 06:54 AM (wJky2)

622 Nood

JJ and the EMTs

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 21, 2016 06:57 AM (u82oZ)

623 Chores.

May every traffic light turn green as you approach.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 21, 2016 06:58 AM (u82oZ)

624 All of those counties I mentioned are an hour or so, some less, from KC and and a half hour or so from any shopping you need in Topeka.

Unless need includes fancy then, KC.

Posted by: teej at December 21, 2016 06:59 AM (gJ3Vg)

625 Pinto: (about to try grass for the first time) I won't go schizo, will I?

Professor: It's a distinct possibility.

Once again, "Animal House" led the way.

Posted by: Lee Bentley, Jr. at December 21, 2016 09:53 AM (4B/Ke)

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