Thursday Night Overnight Open Thread (12/1/16)

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For all intents and purposes, Charlie Hedbo is dead.


Your Dummy's Guide to Lowbrow Culture.

Overall, if you’re going to get involved in celebrity culture you need to start worrying about butts. The Armenian family that runs the show runs on ass. They are reality stars but seem to be placed above all other stars despite coming from a lower art form.

The fall of the mainstream Christian Churches of the U.S.A.

Part of what has destroyed the mainline Protestant churches is their full-throated embrace of Progressive lunacy. At my friend’s ordination, three of the people ordained were woman. Judging by the haircuts, all three were lesbians. Gay marriage is a huge issue in these churches, driving off the sensible and leaving only those who see Christianity as a vehicle for Progressive activism. Many of these churches are no longer Christian, as a theological matter. They are just Progressive meeting houses for the deranged.

If you are a normal person, the mainline Protestant churches have nothing to offer but endless lectures about the joys of liberalism. It’s a familiar pattern. First the women take over, then the men leave, except for the guys willing to take orders from the gals. Then the normal women bolt. This boiling off of the sensible eventually leaves the crazies in charge of the organization. Before long the freak flag is hoisted and it is the bar in Star Wars. It’s the pattern we saw with Labour in Britain and the Democrats in the US.

On this day in history. Popular vote, Electoral College, the House and the election of John Quincy Adams.


The Election Maps of 2016

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The need for the Electoral College. Or how to safeguard the USA and it's way of governance. The maps make a Prima Facie case.

Jefferson put it this way:
What has destroyed liberty and the rights of man in every government which has ever existed under the sun? The generalizing and concentrating all cares and powers into one body.

And Lord Acton put it this way:
Liberty consists in the division of power. Absolutism, in concentration of power.

If you didn't know it, today is National Pie Day. There is still time to go and get a slice.

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It is the user's fault not the product's fault. Inanimate objects don't kill people. People kill people..

The knife paradigm applies directly to guns. The purpose of a gun is to poke holes at a distance, and everyone knows this. Just as I cannot claim that my knife was defective because I used it to cut something I shouldn’t have, I cannot claim that my gun was defective if I use it to poke a hole in something I shouldn’t have.

It was bound to happen. Actually it happened sooner than the ONT expected. German Intelligence officer arrested for aiding and abetting terrorism.

It's the nerve of "these type of people" that caused Brexit and helped Trump win here. Italians forced to house "immigrants". Here's hoping this douche bag takes in the first of the "immigrants".

Free speech for me but not for thee.

Tonight's Musical Interlude


Have you started your Christmas shopping yet? Do you know someone who voted for Hillary? Here's your chance to save some money on a gift for that Hillary voter!

PMS issues? You decide.

Spot the Santa with the bag of cash. Correct callers 3-15-27-42 and 64 will win a year's supply of &&&&&.

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Your nightly science lesson. If you don't have a strong stomach, skip the video. Your final ONT grade will not be impacted.

The Genius Award

Gun control = Hitting your intended target.The Feel Good Story of The Day


Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by diversity.

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Posted with permission by AceCorp, LLC. No strippers exotic dancers or animals were injured in the composition of this ONT.

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1 Kultchah!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 01, 2016 09:57 PM (EnKk6)

2 st!

Posted by: Zettai Ryōiki, #FreeCthulhuAlreadyFFS at December 01, 2016 09:58 PM (kP16F)

3 Missed it by that much.

Posted by: Dr Alice at December 01, 2016 09:58 PM (LaT54)

4 th?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki, #FreeCthulhuAlreadyFFS at December 01, 2016 09:59 PM (kP16F)

5 Somewhere close?

Posted by: cfomahm at December 01, 2016 09:59 PM (RfzVr)

6 I thought Charlie Hebdo was dead long ago when they stopped doing anything against the religion of peace.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 01, 2016 09:59 PM (1JnAL)

7 First?

Posted by: Regular joe at December 01, 2016 10:00 PM (ROIz5)

8 Santa is in 3rd row up from the bottom and 3 1/2 in from the right. It makes it easy if you can do the 3D thing by unfocusing your eyes.

Posted by: Dr Alice at December 01, 2016 10:01 PM (LaT54)

9 Merde. Shouldn't have lingered over that defensive vomit photo.

Posted by: Regular joe at December 01, 2016 10:01 PM (ROIz5)

10 10th?

Posted by: Crusader at December 01, 2016 10:01 PM (OXPMi)

11 One of my happiest days was shaking the dust off my feet and moving to the Reformed Episcopal Church from ECUSA.

I no longer even worry about politics in my church!

Apparently you CAN have the Bible along with Anglicanism!

Posted by: Mordineus at December 01, 2016 10:03 PM (u4xKN)

12 8 .......up from the bottom and 3 1/2 in from the right. It makes it easy if you can do the 3D thing by unfocusing your eyes.
Posted by: Dr Alice at December 01, 2016 10:01 PM (LaT54)


Really?

No &&&&&& or troll-b-gone for you

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2016 10:03 PM (voOPb)

13 Easy Guns and NRA are part of bad culture?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 01, 2016 10:04 PM (IqV8l)

14 Overall, if you're going to get involved in celebrity culture you need to start worrying about butts.

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I just wanted to put that right there because it made me laugh.

Posted by: bluebell at December 01, 2016 10:04 PM (Zokmo)

15 **Vomits up dinner to keep everyone a safe distance away**

Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2016 10:05 PM (MQZBa)

16 That is one enticing blueberry pie picture.

Posted by: Splunge at December 01, 2016 10:05 PM (iMxBJ)

17 The article about the mainstream churches is spot on. They don't seem to be in the "soul saving" business any more.

Posted by: cfomahm at December 01, 2016 10:05 PM (RfzVr)

18 MH, waah! Shouldn't have given away my secret.

Mordineus, you are so right. I used to belong to ECUSA but quit several years ago in disgust. Still shopping for a new church, my nearest Reformed equivalent is a 45 minute drive.

Posted by: Dr Alice at December 01, 2016 10:05 PM (LaT54)

19 Row 9. The second complete Santa counting from the right side of the page.

Posted by: buzzion at December 01, 2016 10:05 PM (z/Ubi)

20 That Pie looks moist and delicious.

Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2016 10:06 PM (MQZBa)

21 Defensive vomiting?

I prefer offensive vomiting.

Posted by: Roy at December 01, 2016 10:06 PM (fWLrt)

22 Barf. Ugh. Don't need to see any more of that for a looonnnggg time.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 01, 2016 10:06 PM (hscyr)

23 I'll have a bit over 3 slices of that tasty Pi.

Posted by: Roy at December 01, 2016 10:07 PM (fWLrt)

24 I had to go through twice because I wasn't sure if the bag of money meant the sack had the $ sign on it, or the green was cash.

Posted by: buzzion at December 01, 2016 10:07 PM (z/Ubi)

25

I thought 3/14 was pie day?

Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at December 01, 2016 10:07 PM (qWvcB)

26 Night L'Elle.

Night Tim!

Night Horde.

Unlike Trump who is currently on HANNITY ON FOX, I must sleep.

Big couple of weeks at new job.

End of year stuff.

Joyeux employment'e !!


(fake french)

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at December 01, 2016 10:07 PM (zu88C)

27 Ugh. Butts, huh? I can see the appeal of a nice-looking butt as a means of attracting the opposite sex, but I don't want to do anything sexual with a butt.

That's where poop comes from, you know? I wouldn't touch poop with my bare hands; I'm not going anywhere near it with my dick.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 01, 2016 10:07 PM (0OG8D)

28
When is Talk Like A Pie Day?

Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at December 01, 2016 10:07 PM (qWvcB)

29 Amendment XXVIII

No Effing "Refugee" shall be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner.

Posted by: Splunge at December 01, 2016 10:08 PM (iMxBJ)

30 29 Amendment XXVIII

No Effing "Refugee" shall be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner.
Posted by: Splunge

They can be drawn, however.

Posted by: Roy at December 01, 2016 10:09 PM (fWLrt)

31 >>>I thought 3/14 was pie day?

Everyday should be pie day

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2016 10:09 PM (voOPb)

32 GP-100 at the FFL.

My schadenboner isn't just for General Mattis.

That is all.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2016 10:09 PM (42Mgr)

33
Pence/Some Guy 2024


f'real g'nite

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at December 01, 2016 10:09 PM (zu88C)

34 #29: We might need a conservative "activist judge" to declare that the 3rd Amendment covers that.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 01, 2016 10:10 PM (0OG8D)

35 Just finished watching The Donald's speech in Cincy. His trolling of CNN, MSNBC, and John Kasich was epic. Truly he does not give a single fuck about wha those cockholsters think.

Posted by: The Bloob at December 01, 2016 10:10 PM (v8aCN)

36 31 >>>I thought 3/14 was pie day?

Everyday should be pie day
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2016 10:09 PM (voOPb)


Poontang Pie day

Posted by: The Rock at December 01, 2016 10:10 PM (uS6KQ)

37 Pence/Some Guy 2024 : PUNCH UP! AMERICA

Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2016 10:10 PM (MQZBa)

38 I finally found a rational, traditional Piskie church near us. Solid clergy, decent music, no clown vestments. Amazing.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at December 01, 2016 10:10 PM (/WPPJ)

39 Blearrgh.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2016 10:10 PM (0mRoj)

40 Mort, I had no idea you landed a new job. That's so great! I'm so happy for you. I hope it's what you want and works out.

And Bonne Nuit.
( I think that's misspelled French)

Posted by: L, Elle at December 01, 2016 10:11 PM (6IPEM)

41 39 Blearrgh.
Posted by: Insomniac



Defensive vomiting?

Posted by: Roy at December 01, 2016 10:11 PM (fWLrt)

42 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2016 10:09 PM (42Mg

Ohhhhhhhhhh how exciting. Good for you in the people's republic

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2016 10:11 PM (voOPb)

43 I'd have been first if I'd not tried to get all fancy and shit with my nic...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki, #FreeCthulhuAlreadyFFS at December 01, 2016 10:11 PM (kP16F)

44 *sucker punches Santa*
*runs off with bag of cash*

Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2016 10:11 PM (0mRoj)

45 Reading the Brit papers today (so much better than our own; as Milo says, British reporters are "clever," and ours are not), I came across a gem: a story about how a parent was called in because her 5-year-old could not stop giggling about her teacher's name: "Miss Butt."

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zaao2v8

Posted by: Splunge at December 01, 2016 10:11 PM (iMxBJ)

46 >>Blearrgh.


WharrGarrbl!

Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2016 10:12 PM (MQZBa)

47 HOOOOOOOOORDE!!!!

So who did we piss off today?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 10:12 PM (89UPP)

48
Charlie Hebo dead, and everyone says that violence doesn't solve anything.

Posted by: Short Round at December 01, 2016 10:12 PM (SoxUH)

49 41 39 Blearrgh.
Posted by: Insomniac



Defensive vomiting?
Posted by: Roy at December 01, 2016 10:11 PM (fWLrt)

Nah. Just feeling shitty today.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2016 10:13 PM (0mRoj)

50 #47: Everyone who matters, my friend. It was a good day!

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 01, 2016 10:13 PM (0OG8D)

51 Posted by: L, Elle

merci!

that's all I got.

Night!

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at December 01, 2016 10:13 PM (zu88C)

52
go to bed!

Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at December 01, 2016 10:13 PM (qWvcB)

53 Good night, Mort!

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 01, 2016 10:13 PM (0OG8D)

54 *sucker punches Santa*
*runs off with bag of cash*
Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2016 10:11 PM
*****
Lol.
You're my hero.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 01, 2016 10:14 PM (6IPEM)

55 Cochran!!!!! You bring carrots for the Horde?!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 01, 2016 10:14 PM (hscyr)

56 47 HOOOOOOOOORDE!!!!

So who did we piss off today?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 10:12 PM (89UPP)


IT Doesn't Matter Who We Pissed Off Today!

Posted by: The Rock at December 01, 2016 10:14 PM (uS6KQ)

57 48
Charlie Hebo dead, and everyone says that violence doesn't solve anything.
Posted by: Short Round at December 01, 2016 10:12 PM (SoxUH)


That was deep. And sick. In short, an excellent AOS post.

It's true, if you shoot a bunch of people with courage in an organization, that organization may cease to exist in recognizable form.

Posted by: Splunge at December 01, 2016 10:15 PM (iMxBJ)

58 I want that slice of pie really bad and I don't really like pie .

Drool...

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 01, 2016 10:15 PM (rwyDf)

59
It's true, if you shoot a bunch of people with courage in an organization, that organization may cease to exist in recognizable form


That's why the Democrats will always be around.

Posted by: Roy at December 01, 2016 10:15 PM (fWLrt)

60 The ONT is so ... cultured.

Posted by: mindful webworker - curds? no whey! at December 01, 2016 10:15 PM (5a8XA)

61 Stop telling me to go to bed, Dad.

What's a wing plover anyway? You made that up.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 01, 2016 10:15 PM (6IPEM)

62 Hey, how do you 'rons handle the awkwardness of getting your shadenboner stuck in the office elevator?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: The Bloob at December 01, 2016 10:16 PM (v8aCN)

63
a Spurwing Plover is a bird blog commenter from the mid-2000's

Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at December 01, 2016 10:17 PM (qWvcB)

64 Anyone have thoughts about this:

According to TV host David Pakman, who yesterday broke news of a plot by
15 electors to not vote for Trump and lobby others to do the same in an
effort to prevent him from getting the 270 electoral votes he needs to
become president, the claim has been corroborated by a second source.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 01, 2016 10:17 PM (OlyEd)

65 Good for you in the people's republic

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2016 10:11 PM (voOPb)

If the founders knew what I had to go through to buy a pistol they would immediately order the Continental Army to invade New Jersey.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2016 10:17 PM (42Mgr)

66 The feel good story and the diversity pic warm the cockles of my heart :-)

Posted by: Infidel at December 01, 2016 10:18 PM (a62hT)

67 General Mattis met the young man who had been seeing his daughter.

Mattis punched him so hard she got her virginity back.

Posted by: Halfwise at December 01, 2016 10:18 PM (rB/gm)

68 50 #47: Everyone who matters, my friend. It was a good day!

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 01, 2016 10:13 PM (0OG8D)



Yes it was!


55 Cochran!!!!! You bring carrots for the Horde?!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 01, 2016 10:14 PM (hscyr)


*glares*

Your boobs aren't destroying, they're the only thing saving you right now.


Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 10:18 PM (89UPP)

69 @24. Why is it when I in focus to do the magic eye thing, that Santa and the one next to him have really shiny green stuff in their bags?

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at December 01, 2016 10:18 PM (Om16U)

70 The University of Missouri is urging student groups to halt some social events as the number of mumps cases continues to rise.

University spokesman Christian Basi said Thursday that "for the safety of our students and university community" the school has called off a late night breakfast during finals week that typically draws from 1,500 to 2,000 students, plus faculty and staff. Finals begin Dec. 12.

Posted by: SMOD at December 01, 2016 10:18 PM (e8kgV)

71
Charlie Hebo dead, and everyone says that violence doesn't solve anything.
Posted by: Short Round


Violence solves everything.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 01, 2016 10:18 PM (IqV8l)

72 54 *sucker punches Santa*
*runs off with bag of cash*
Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2016 10:11 PM
*****
Lol.
You're my hero.
Posted by: L, Elle at December 01, 2016 10:14 PM (6IPEM)

Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2016 10:19 PM (0mRoj)

73 It's true, if you shoot a bunch of people with courage in an
organization, that organization may cease to exist in recognizable form.


Yet you could never properly explain that concept to a leftist--they're all about theoretical discourse when it favors them, but the moment they realize you're talking about how to defeat one of *their* pet bad-guy organizations they bail and promise aloud that they're calling the authorities as they walk away.

Posted by: Crusader at December 01, 2016 10:19 PM (OXPMi)

74 And Bonne Nuit.
( I think that's misspelled French)

Posted by: L, Elle at December 01, 2016 10:11 PM (6IPEM)

Non...ca c'est correcte.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2016 10:20 PM (42Mgr)

75 64 Anyone have thoughts about this:

According to TV host David Pakman, who yesterday broke news of a plot by
15 electors to not vote for Trump and lobby others to do the same in an
effort to prevent him from getting the 270 electoral votes he needs to
become president, the claim has been corroborated by a second source.


Since the New York Times gets their leads from David Pakman, we shoud probably not giggle too much.

Posted by: Roy at December 01, 2016 10:20 PM (fWLrt)

76 General Mattis has a grizzly bear rug in front of his fireplace. The bear is alive, and following orders.

Posted by: Halfwise at December 01, 2016 10:20 PM (rB/gm)

77 I found the Santa with the cash in under seconds. (it was a fluke, but I will call it skill anyway)

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 10:20 PM (hVdx9)

78 Aldrin, 86, is in stable condition after "his condition deteriorated" while visiting Antarctica, according to White Desert, which organizes luxury tourism trips to the icy continent. The group said Aldrin was evacuated on the first available flight out of the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station to the McMurdo Station on the Antarctic coast under the care of a doctor with the U.S. Antarctic Program.

Posted by: SMOD at December 01, 2016 10:21 PM (e8kgV)

79 I found the Santa with the cash in under 10 seconds. (it was a fluke, but I will call it skill anyway)

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 10:21 PM (hVdx9)

80 Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 01, 2016 10:17 PM (OlyEd)

Several of us have been worried about this, yes.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 10:21 PM (lkEum)

81 The decision to nominate Mattis is the second best thing Trump has done.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 10:22 PM (89UPP)

82 I can tell you that the Presbyterian Church, USA's fall has been something to behold.

Going "all in" on the whole ghey stuff. Inviting an iman to deliver the opening prayer at a General Assembly meeting in which he said during his prayer that allah was the only path. Then holding meetings about the role of the "Voices of Sophia".

So thankful that my congregation voted to leave and join the Evangelical Presbyterian church.

Of course, we did lose some of the older members who grew up in PCUSA and felt that changing because of all the theological shit PCUSA was pushing was wrong, and we needed to stay. And we lost our Democrat members, but fuck em, they were okay with killing babies and supporting Palestinians instead of Israel.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 01, 2016 10:22 PM (1JnAL)

83 OK, the "puke defense" video. First, I do not believe that Miss Sensitive Stomach up there actually ate a grasshopper taco. Second, a whole video about creatures with puke defense, and no mention of the sea cucumber, which will puke actual organs to distract predators?

Aside, in the weird but compelling book "John Dies At The End," the protagonist nicknames this girl in his school who pukes a lot, "Cucumber," because of the sea cucumber, which is brilliant.

Second aside: sea cucumber is a delicacy in southern China.

Posted by: Splunge at December 01, 2016 10:22 PM (iMxBJ)

84

Wow


I was listening to Trumps speech, then i got dizzy, the room started spinning and i saw a white flash

I woke up, sweaty, thirsty and craving a cigarette.


What the Hell was that. Too much winning?

Posted by: ThunderB at December 01, 2016 10:22 PM (cy9sE)

85 #62: Just say you're using it to hold the door open for someone you can just hear running for the elevator.

Nobody can really object to that.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 01, 2016 10:22 PM (0OG8D)

86
Electors are Party people.

For the Democrat party to screw around with a national election would be very very dangerous. It would be political suicide for the D's to allow it to happen because it would definitely fail anyway.

If there was a chance it would succeed, that's another thing. But there's no upside for the Democrats for a handful of their unelected party rump swabs (who probably look and sound very ugly if they were put on TV -- yes the 'optics' would be devastating) to essentially stage a futile coup while the president-elect in the middle of confirming his new administration.





Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 10:22 PM (qWvcB)

87 The Santa with the bag of cash is the one I want delivering presents to me on Christmas.

Posted by: buzzion at December 01, 2016 10:22 PM (z/Ubi)

88 According to TV host David Pakman, who yesterday broke news of a plot by
15 electors to not vote for Trump and lobby others to do the same in an
effort to prevent him from getting the 270 electoral votes he needs to
become president, the claim has been corroborated by a second source.


Since the New York Times gets their leads from David Pakman, we shoud probably not giggle too much.

Posted by: Roy
****

If they succeed, they will need more than legal representation. They will need a bunker that puts Cheyenne Mountain to shame.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 10:23 PM (hVdx9)

89 76 General Mattis has a grizzly bear rug in front of his fireplace. The bear is alive, and following orders.
Posted by: Halfwise at December 01, 2016 10:20 PM (rB/gm)

Mattis's nickname for the bear - Chuck Norris

Posted by: Roy at December 01, 2016 10:23 PM (fWLrt)

90 The decision to nominate Mattis is the second best thing Trump has done.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 10:22 PM (89UPP)

======

#1 being Sessions?

Posted by: Flyboy at December 01, 2016 10:23 PM (L+dg+)

91 Nearing the end of the 3rd Quarter. Vikings just kicked another field goal. Cowboys ahead 7-6.

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT at December 01, 2016 10:23 PM (nvMvs)

92 84

Wow


I was listening to Trumps speech, then i got dizzy, the room started spinning and i saw a white flash

I woke up, sweaty, thirsty and craving a cigarette.


What the Hell was that. Too much winning?
Posted by: ThunderB at December 01, 2016 10:22 PM (cy9sE)



Did you need to change your panties?

Posted by: buzzion at December 01, 2016 10:23 PM (z/Ubi)

93 One in Texas resigned, so as not to vote for him.

Not sure if he is replaceable, or if the vote just goes away. I would think that would mean a group of people would be disenfranchised, but I have no idea what happens in such cases.

I have always said I think the JEF and Hildebeast are too quiet and laying too low.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 10:23 PM (lkEum)

94 Electors are Party people.


Throw your hands in the air
And wave 'em like you just don't care!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2016 10:24 PM (0mRoj)

95
Let me put it another way: It wouldn't bother me none if the Democrats tried to steal the 2016 election. The end result would not be good for the D's and would be good for Trump.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 10:24 PM (qWvcB)

96 I came across a gem: a story about how a parent was called in because her 5-year-old could not stop giggling about her teacher's name: "Miss Butt."


Poor Teacher.........

Posted by: Harry Balz at December 01, 2016 10:24 PM (geB4L)

97 I have to say, I love those quotes I've been seeing from Mattis that remind me of Chesty Puller. I'm really happy to see someone like that being nominated to head up the DoD!

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 01, 2016 10:24 PM (0OG8D)

98 Wow


I was listening to Trumps speech, then i got dizzy, the room started spinning and i saw a white flash

I woke up, sweaty, thirsty and craving a cigarette.


What the Hell was that. Too much winning?

Posted by: ThunderB
****

If you were sticky, you have ventured into my world.

Posted by: Guy Who Can't Stop Splooging at December 01, 2016 10:24 PM (hVdx9)

99 That by-county Election Map of 2016? Find the largest "red" (hate the reversed colors!) area smack in the middle of the country. Now, approximate the middle of that big red puddle. That's where I live.

And it's still not far enough from The Other Side.

Posted by: mindful webworker - in Centerville at December 01, 2016 10:24 PM (5a8XA)

100 Did you need to change your panties?
Posted by: buzzion at December 01, 2016 10:23 PM (z/Ubi)

At this point, she needs a mop.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2016 10:24 PM (0mRoj)

101 I was listening to Trumps speech, then i got dizzy, the room started spinning and i saw a white flash


A Johnny Wadd schadenboner will tend to do that.

Posted by: Roy at December 01, 2016 10:24 PM (fWLrt)

102 81
The decision to nominate Mattis is the second best thing Trump has done.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 10:22 PM (89UPP)

besides defeating hillary?

Posted by: muttering vikings fan at December 01, 2016 10:24 PM (XoldI)

103 The 1st being Melania?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 10:25 PM (lkEum)

104 An avian species? I was certain you made that up. I apologize. I looked it up. The tall skinny legs make them look like sandpipers.

I learned a new thing. Spurwing Plover. I like birdies too.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 01, 2016 10:25 PM (6IPEM)

105 The New Acceptability: Treading, Raping, and Pedophilia

Another "quick takes" on items where there is too little to say to make a complete article, but is still important enough to comment on.

The focus this time: Shut up and take it like a Kafir!

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=12774

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 01, 2016 10:25 PM (vBeA5)

106 Love that last picture. It's been colorized (the original is pretty easy to find in black and white), but the coloring seems decent. And that's a minor detail, in any event.

Running through various bits and pieces of stuff in my mind. The Japanese "helicopter destroyer" Kaga has been mentioned here a time or two. It's the second ship of the Izumo-class. Izumo herself, I learned today, is apparently named after a previous Japanese ship. This ship apparently provided fire support for the Imperial Japanese Army during the Battle of Shanghai, in China, as well as at other times.

Hmm...

The Kaga, of course, has already been mentioned. And it turns out that the Kaga (alone out of all of the Japanese fleet carriers, I think) carried out air strikes in China.

I'm sensing a theme here...


And on a mostly unrelated note, I have a bit of an odd question. I have no idea if anyone will know the answer to this.

Assume for the sake of argument that you've got all five of the carriers sunk during the Battle of Midway - Akagi, Kaga, Soryu, Hiryu. and Yorktown. Could they operate the STOVL variant of the F-35 - the F-35B?

Just curious if anyone knows. For the overly ambitious, answers involving other WW2 fleet carriers are also welcome.

And assume, for the sake of argument, that the carrier flight decks have sufficient strength to support the weight of the fighters.

Posted by: junior at December 01, 2016 10:25 PM (ff27+)

107 #1 being Sessions?

Posted by: Flyboy at December 01, 2016 10:23 PM (L+dg+)



Nope. #1 was, to quote this guy who has a podcast you should all totally listen to, "cunt punting Hillary Clinton to the political sidelines."

Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 10:25 PM (89UPP)

108
I'll be pissed if Romney or Corker get sec state.

Both of them are No Goods.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 10:26 PM (qWvcB)

109 "PMS issues? You decide."
Never would have guessed they were AA. Nope.

Posted by: Dave (in MA) at December 01, 2016 10:26 PM (/H3v4)

110 Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2016 10:24 PM (0mRoj)

You mean like the Bushes and such? The ones who voted for Hillary, or left the Presidential portion of their ballot blank?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 10:26 PM (lkEum)

111 68 *glares*
Your boobs aren't destroying, they're the only thing saving you right now.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 10:18 PM (89UPP)

????? Didn't see the Victory pics did you?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 01, 2016 10:26 PM (hscyr)

112 Most "mainstream" denominations have sold out, and are no longer truly Christian.

Its *human* for INDIVIDUALS to believe that THEIR sin is "unique", and deserving of some divine exception.

But the Church's role isn't to nod along in agreement. Instead, its to point out that *divinely inspired* scripture doesn't allow a lot of wiggle-room in regard to whatever their pet sin might be. The fact that entire denominations willing disregard scripture means they're no longer relevant, at least when it comes to discussing Christianity.

Posted by: Crusader at December 01, 2016 10:27 PM (OXPMi)

113 And assume, for the sake of argument, that the carrier flight decks have sufficient strength to support the weight of the fighters.


Posted by: junior
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Weight isn't the problem. Heat is. Stuff that could stand up to the Harrier gets melted by the STOVL F-35B.

Posted by: Guy Who Can't Stop Splooging at December 01, 2016 10:27 PM (hVdx9)

114 Aldrin, 86, is in stable condition after "his condition deteriorated" while visiting Antarctica, according to White Desert, which organizes luxury tourism trips to the icy continent. The group said Aldrin was evacuated on the first available flight out of the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station to the McMurdo Station on the Antarctic coast under the care of a doctor with the U.S. Antarctic Program.
--

Why was here there?

Why would an 86 year old man with health issues go to Antarctica?

Also... I believe Kerry has been there recently as well.

WTF is going on there?

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 01, 2016 10:27 PM (OlyEd)

115 #111: I didn't see them. Any chance of a repost?

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 01, 2016 10:27 PM (0OG8D)

116
Chuck Norris and General Mattis walk into a bar...





Chuck Norris says, "Ouch, what was that?"

Mattis says, "What was what?

Posted by: Short Round at December 01, 2016 10:27 PM (SoxUH)

117 Go look at the pictures of some of the cartoonists killed in the Charlie Hebdo attack.

You'd be hard pressed to find a more smug, hollow chested group of lefty noodle dicks anywhere.

Here was a case where someone fucked up and actually directed the sneering contempt usually employed against Christians and White people at Muslims. I was very surprised they kept going after the place was firebombed a few years before the attack. These people are almost always cowards who only direct their poison pen ramblings at people and groups who they know will do nothing except complain in letters to newspapers.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 01, 2016 10:28 PM (4ErVI)

118 97 I have to say, I love those quotes I've been seeing from Mattis that remind me of Chesty Puller. I'm really happy to see someone like that being nominated to head up the DoD!
Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 01, 2016 10:24 PM (0OG8D)


Exactly. Trump mentioned Patton, but Chesty Puller is by far the better match.

Now imagine the odds that Hillary would have nominated such a man. Yeah. Zero. It's actually conceivable that she would have nominated John "Traitor To His Brothers" Kerry.

Posted by: Splunge at December 01, 2016 10:28 PM (iMxBJ)

119 Why would an 86 year old man with health issues go to Antarctica?

The moon was too boring.

Posted by: Roy at December 01, 2016 10:28 PM (fWLrt)

120 Because it was the fourth to last comment on the art thread, let me repeat: the boy in the coonskin cap in Andrew Wyeth's "Faraway" is actually Andrew son and future fine art painter Jamie Wyeth.

Posted by: Pete in TX at December 01, 2016 10:28 PM (2RBkF)

121
The 2018 US Senate races look, right now, excellent for the R's.

Only ones who can screw this up is the R's.
The Democrats would be very foolish to attempt elector shenanigans. I hope they do, tho.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 10:28 PM (qWvcB)

122 68 *glares*
Your boobs aren't destroying, they're the only thing saving you right now.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 10:18 PM (89UPP)

????? Didn't see the Victory pics did you?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy
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I did and I just wanted to say, Uhhhhhhhh, oooooo, uh yes. And thank you.

Posted by: Guy Who Can't Stop Splooging at December 01, 2016 10:28 PM (hVdx9)

123 Well, I'm lowbrow, I see. Butts do play a big role in my cognitive processes. Sort of asscentrism, you might say. Well, sort of a Trinity of female body parts. Butts, boobs, and vulvae.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 01, 2016 10:29 PM (DW+jj)

124 Second aside: sea cucumber is a delicacy in southern China.

Posted by: Splunge at December 01, 2016 10:22 PM (iMxBJ)

When I sea cucumber, I devour it!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke, cucumber-gobbler at December 01, 2016 10:29 PM (8iiMU)

125 Hey Mis. Hum., I hope you aren't going to start doing this too, but you used the "controls=0" option with the Drifters video. This has the effect of removing all the controls. Like the volume control. Not only that, it will always play the video at full volume. I usually play youtube at about a quarter volume. Youtube usually remembers this and starts out the videos at quarter volume, except when that controls=0 option is set. Then its full volume with no way to turn it down.

Usually JJ is the only one to use that horrific option, for reasons I can't comprehend.

Anyway, if it matters, I hope this isn't something that you will be doing all the time.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 01, 2016 10:29 PM (R+30W)

126 Why was here there?

Why would an 86 year old man with health issues go to Antarctica?

Also... I believe Kerry has been there recently as well.

WTF is going on there?

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 01, 2016 10:27 PM (OlyEd)


Zero Point Energy.

Podesta is going next week and he's bringing pizza (which means John Kasich will be tagging along looking for a handout).

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 01, 2016 10:29 PM (4ErVI)

127 Anyone notice you NEVER see Chuck Norris and General Mattis together at the same time?

Posted by: Roy at December 01, 2016 10:29 PM (fWLrt)

128
Aldrin, 86, is in stable condition after "his condition deteriorated"

So is Buzz Aldrin dead or alive?

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 10:29 PM (qWvcB)

129 besides defeating hillary?

Defeating the GOPe, producing Ivanka, making the Left completely lose their shit?

Posted by: t-bird at December 01, 2016 10:29 PM (9Q5BJ)

130 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 10:26 PM (lkEum)

I was just making a joke off someone else's comment

Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2016 10:30 PM (0mRoj)

131

Because he is Buzz Fucking Aldrin, that's why

Posted by: ThunderB at December 01, 2016 10:30 PM (cy9sE)

132 128 So is Buzz Aldrin dead or alive?
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 10:29 PM (qWvcB)


Yes.

Posted by: Splunge at December 01, 2016 10:30 PM (iMxBJ)

133 128 So is Buzz Aldrin dead or alive?
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 10:29 PM (qWvcB)

Yes.

Posted by: Splunge
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He's a cat in a box?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 10:31 PM (hVdx9)

134 Nice array for the ONT, Mis. Hum.!

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 01, 2016 10:31 PM (tHwdc)

135 132
128 So is Buzz Aldrin dead or alive?

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 10:29 PM (qWvcB)



Yes.

Posted by: Splunge at December 01, 2016 10:30 PM (iMxBJ)

Schrodinger's buzz?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 01, 2016 10:31 PM (8iiMU)

136 132 128 So is Buzz Aldrin dead or alive?
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 10:29 PM (qWvcB)

Yes.
Posted by: Splunge at December 01, 2016 10:30 PM (iMxBJ)

Schrodinger's spaceman

Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2016 10:31 PM (0mRoj)

137 The one that resigned in Texas will be replaced with an alternate.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 01, 2016 10:32 PM (d76uN)

138 The 1st being Melania?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 10:25 PM (lkEum)

=====

Well, yeah, but I was working on the political context angle.

Posted by: Flyboy at December 01, 2016 10:32 PM (L+dg+)

139 You know what's great? I feel like I don't have to worry about our country so much anymore. Trump's at the wheel already.

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at December 01, 2016 10:32 PM (Om16U)

140 3rd row from the bottom; 3rd column from the right.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 01, 2016 10:32 PM (1G5R8)

141 The New Acceptability: Treading, Raping, and Pedophilia
--

Well, they managed to make homosexuality something to celebrate on a daily basis.

They've put confused transgender people into bathrooms with young girls.

Pedophilia is next. They are going for 199% normalization of sex with children. As well as sex with animals and polyamorous marriage.

It will all be normal soon! Nothing will be considered deviant in our new Liberal Utopia!

Oh sorry. Going to church, being white, being a heterosexual, and being psychologically healthy will soon be completely unacceptable. Off to the camps for re-education!

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 01, 2016 10:32 PM (OlyEd)

142 97 I have to say, I love those quotes I've been seeing from Mattis that remind me of Chesty Puller. I'm really happy to see someone like that being nominated to head up the DoD!
Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 01, 2016 10:24 PM (0OG8D)


First order of business: renaming it the War Department.

Or the Muslim/Communist Killing Department. That works too.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 10:32 PM (SRKgf)

143 133, 135, 136, hat trick!

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 10:33 PM (hVdx9)

144 64 Anyone have thoughts about this:

According to TV host David Pakman, who yesterday broke news of a plot by
15 electors to not vote for Trump and lobby others to do the same in an
effort to prevent him from getting the 270 electoral votes he needs to
become president, the claim has been corroborated by a second source.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 01, 2016 10:17 PM (OlyEd)


Ive heard there is some electors trying to do that, but they are electors in Washington and Colorado, states not won by Trump.

Remember, it will take 37 Trump electors to vote for Hillary for her to become President. 37 Republicans will have to vote against their party nominee and vote for a woman most every Republican finds deplorable.

37 electors switching from Trump to "Not Hillary" will only throw the election to the House where the GOP members will vote how their states voted and will elect Trump.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 01, 2016 10:33 PM (1JnAL)

145 trump is already taking over the presidency, a month and a half early

kinda like Andrew taking over that press conference

Posted by: muttering vikings fan at December 01, 2016 10:33 PM (XoldI)

146 139 You know what's great? I feel like I don't have to worry about our country so much anymore. Trump's at the wheel already.
Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at December 01, 2016 10:32 PM (Om16U)



This.

Just not having to dread reading the news each morning will be refreshing.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 10:33 PM (SRKgf)

147 Though not everyone agrees that the bystander should have acted as judge, jury, and executioner by killing the attacker...

Ummm... What was the guy attacking the Deputy acting as?

Posted by: Socratese at December 01, 2016 10:34 PM (2GbWn)

148 Hey everybody.

I was always taught that a church isn't a building and doesn't necessarily even have to solicit tithes. A church is anywhere Christians come together to worship. You could have a worship service with three friends, that lasts 15 minutes, in your living room, for instance.

My hunch is that's where some of the traditional Christian church is headed. But after the rise of megachurches, I'm not 100% sure that the comeback of very small personal micro-churches in private homes is the worst thing that could possibly happen.

Now, expressing your faith in public without being persecuted for it, is another matter entirely.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 10:34 PM (u8kLQ)

149 Aaahh...hot green tea. Good for the soul.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2016 10:34 PM (0mRoj)

150 143
133, 135, 136, hat trick!

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 10:33 PM (hVdx9)

We live in a quantum echo chamber.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 01, 2016 10:34 PM (8iiMU)

151 Electors are Party people.

For the Democrat party to screw around with a national election would be very very dangerous. It would be political suicide for the D's to allow it to happen because it would definitely fail anyway.
----------------

Yeah, the party picks the electors. If a sizable block of them decide to not vote for the party's candidate, then heads will roll.

Also, if you haven't, go read Larry Correia's recently published guide for liberals who want to get a gun. It's over on his website - monsterhunternation.com. He notes there that if the American citizenry decided to exercise its 2nd Amendment right against its own government, that would effectively destroy the country.

That's the level of stupidity that would the Dems would be pulling if they actually did do something like this. I'm not saying that some of them might not try it anyway. But it would probably destroy the country.

Posted by: junior at December 01, 2016 10:34 PM (ff27+)

152
"I do believe obama, the Democrats, and the weak Republicans have already taken us off the cliff. But maybe, just maybe Donald J. Trump is our parachute."

--Soothsayer, just now

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 10:34 PM (qWvcB)

153 37 electors switching from Trump to "Not Hillary" will only throw the election to the House where the GOP members will vote how their states voted and will elect Trump.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 01, 2016 10:33 PM (1JnAL)



And who will then pass legislation to outlaw the Democrat Party. Not before time, I might add.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 10:35 PM (SRKgf)

154 I hope sometime in the next few days that some reporter slips up and calls PE Trump "Mr. President".

Posted by: Roy at December 01, 2016 10:35 PM (fWLrt)

155 I was just making a joke off someone else's comment
Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2016 10:30 PM (0mRoj)

Ugh, sorry.....I am just a tad nervous about it.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 10:35 PM (lkEum)

156 Italians forced to house "immigrants".

I thank whatever supreme being there is for the fact that Hillary does not have the opportunity to institute a similar dictat. If she had, the term 'hanging judge' would suddenly have a 2nd entry in the dictionary.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 01, 2016 10:35 PM (1G5R8)

157 133 He's a cat in a box?
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 10:31 PM (hVdx9)


Es war a fickin thought experiment to ficken with those Copenhagen freaks! Ich did not expect sie to turn it into a ficken metaphor! Ich will console myself sich with viel mistresses.

Posted by: Zombie Erwin Schroedinger at December 01, 2016 10:35 PM (iMxBJ)

158 My hunch is that's where some of the traditional Christian church is headed. But after the rise of megachurches, I'm not 100% sure that the comeback of very small personal micro-churches in private homes is the worst thing that could possibly happen.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 10:34 PM (u8kLQ)

That's when the HOA and zoning board come after your ass with guns blazing.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2016 10:35 PM (0mRoj)

159 I heard Mattis went to the Moon and didn't bother wearing a space suit when he went out for his walk.

I see some people here are on Gab. Do you know if they have buttons you can put on sites to share content? If not, they should get on that right away.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 01, 2016 10:36 PM (4ErVI)

160 Amendment XXVIII



No Effing "Refugee" shall be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner.

Posted by: Splunge



They can be drawn, however.

Posted by: Roy at December 01, 2016 10:09 PM (fWLrt)

And quartered, if necessary.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 01, 2016 10:37 PM (tHwdc)

161 That's when the HOA and zoning board come after your ass with guns blazing.

Sucks for them that they made everything a gun-free zone. LOL

Posted by: Roy at December 01, 2016 10:37 PM (fWLrt)

162 Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 01, 2016 10:29 PM (R+30W)

If you think I know how to do what you're talking about? Well, you give me too much credit.



It looks like another one of my misadventures being a cob. While doing the final go thru it all worked

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2016 10:37 PM (voOPb)

163 That Trump guy is not the only one who can execute. Ima gonna meet with so many rappers and Hollywood stars in my last 50 days that your head will spin!

Posted by: "President" Barack Obama at December 01, 2016 10:37 PM (iMxBJ)

164 Didn't see the Victory pics did you?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 01, 2016 10:26 PM (hscyr)



Lol. Nope. I abandoned pretty much all social media in the months leading up to the election and immediately after.

In fact, other than the baseball threads, this is only about the 2nd or 3rd HQ thread I've posted on in several months.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 10:37 PM (89UPP)

165 Buzz Aldrin should have been the first member of that crew to walk on the moon. But Neil Armstrong pulled rank.

I've never been happy about that.

Posted by: Halfwise at December 01, 2016 10:37 PM (rB/gm)

166 133 He's a cat in a box?
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 10:31 PM (hVdx9)

Es war a fickin thought experiment to ficken with those Copenhagen freaks! Ich did not expect sie to turn it into a ficken metaphor! Ich will console myself sich with viel mistresses.

Posted by: Zombie Erwin Schroedinger
****
I thought Schroedinger loved boxes and pu...ohhhhhh. I get it now.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 10:37 PM (hVdx9)

167
Unless I don't fully understand the electors.

I'm not sure if each party chooses the total number of electors, and then, depending on the winning party of the state, the electors of that state are the ones who cast their votes for their party's victor.

Or the electors are a mix of D's and R's...

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 10:38 PM (qWvcB)

168 Iiiii'm the caaaaaat in the box

Posted by: Layne Staley at December 01, 2016 10:38 PM (0mRoj)

169 165 Buzz Aldrin should have been the first member of that crew to walk on the moon. But Neil Armstrong pulled rank.

I've never been happy about that.
Posted by: Halfwise


If Neil had been consumed by a lunar Graboid when he stepped off the LEM, the Buzz would look pretty damn smart right now.

Posted by: Roy at December 01, 2016 10:38 PM (fWLrt)

170 Brandon Finnigan says red states and blue states are a myth.

http://tinyurl.com/gwvjfsq

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 01, 2016 10:39 PM (IqV8l)

171 trump is already taking over the presidency, a month and a half early

Somebody had to.

Posted by: t-bird at December 01, 2016 10:39 PM (TqmC9)

172

What's in the box?!

Posted by: brad pitt at December 01, 2016 10:39 PM (lmIoG)

173 This idea that "American Culture" is defined as the base crap thrown at us via hollyweird and the assholes that swim in that septic field is BS. Yes, it negatively IMPACTS our culture but elevating them to the definers or creators of it sickens.

Posted by: Smitty27 at December 01, 2016 10:39 PM (g9d8D)

174 It's the nerve of "these type of people" that caused Brexit and helped Trump win here. Italians forced to house "immigrants". Here's hoping this douche bag takes in the first of the "immigrants".

But remember we have to fight the "real" enemy Russia because they're a threat to the "freedoms" of the EU

At least that's what the globalist left and the neocon right tell me.


Posted by: kbdabear at December 01, 2016 10:40 PM (Ya7zs)

175 That Trump guy is not the only one who can execute. Ima gonna meet with so many rappers and Hollywood stars in my last 50 days that your head will spin!

Posted by: "President" Barack Obama
****

All those "manly" rappers. Brothers writing poetry. Saying they are "down" for their homies. Talking about big guns and making other men their "bitch".
I am sure you will see as many as possible.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 10:40 PM (hVdx9)

176
Is that a reference to Seven?

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 10:40 PM (qWvcB)

177 Insomniac: you can be as pessimistic as you want, that's your right and who knows.

BUT... zoning doesn't come into play as I understand it, unless you're a money-making operation. If you don't take tithes, where's the profit?

And... HOAs are crazy but I'd like to know how they can prohibit groups of individuals from joining together, so long as they're not rowdy or loud, and not arriving or leaving at some weird hour. Are HOAs also prohibiting people from having Thanksgiving or Christmas parties in their own homes?

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 10:40 PM (u8kLQ)

178 willowed on the last thread:

30 Days of Dead is still available

www.dead.net/30daysofdead?intcmp=home/carousel6

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 01, 2016 10:40 PM (84In0)

179 https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/electors.html#selection

Here ya go. Explains it all

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 01, 2016 10:41 PM (d76uN)

180 first order of business for obama is to get to hawaii and tear that certificate out of the book in the clerk's office.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 10:41 PM (cPsPa)

181 172 What's in the box?!

Posted by: brad pitt at December 01, 2016 10:39 PM (lmIoG)


Nothing!! Absolutely nothing!!

Posted by: Kuni at December 01, 2016 10:41 PM (jV8Mq)

182 I so miss pie. I am afflicted with celiacs and can't eat flour. Four years of ~dedicated~ searching hasn't found a single pie crust- or shortbread- that doesn't taste like pure styrofoam

Posted by: Manor maven at December 01, 2016 10:42 PM (AqZIp)

183 @174 But remember we have to fight the "real" enemy Russia because they're a threat to the "freedoms" of the EU

At least that's what the globalist left and the neocon right tell me.
---------------

Putin has done things like snark about how quickly Russian tanks could be in Warsaw - while meeting with Polish leaders.

I suspect that the only reason why Russia isn't a bigger problem right now is because the Russian economy is shot.

Or in other words - FRAKKING! What can't it fix!?

Posted by: junior at December 01, 2016 10:42 PM (ff27+)

184 172 What's in the box?!

Posted by: brad pitt
****

I thought you said you wanted a little head?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 10:42 PM (hVdx9)

185 Ginger Thursday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/804369481535520768

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/804369566520446976

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/804369669100601344

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/804369770644721664

Posted by: kbdabear at December 01, 2016 10:42 PM (Ya7zs)

186 Great to see Zman get some love here. The article on mainstream churches is beyond spot on.

Posted by: other_joe_mama at December 01, 2016 10:42 PM (845LT)

187 According to TV host David Pakman,


Pacman? Shades of the 80s, wot?

From Wiki:

] Pakman also has said he is opposed to capital punishment due to the combination of lack of deterrent value, multiple exonerations of death row inmates, disproportionate application to poor people and minorities

Put me in charge. I for damned sure would see to buffing its deterrent value.

And as for disproportionate application to poor people and minorities, who does this stupid think commit most of the crimes?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 10:43 PM (SRKgf)

188 @165

I mean...there's no beloved character called Neil Lightyear, so I think in the end....Buzz wins.

Posted by: TickledPink at December 01, 2016 10:43 PM (smD62)

189 There is also a link at the bottom of that page for a pdf of each states rules.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 01, 2016 10:43 PM (d76uN)

190 More Ginger Thursday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/804369947912704000

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/804370050224373761

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/804370288116899840

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/804370390017568768

Posted by: kbdabear at December 01, 2016 10:43 PM (Ya7zs)

191 And... HOAs are crazy but I'd like to know how they can prohibit groups of individuals from joining together, so long as they're not rowdy or loud, and not arriving or leaving at some weird hour. Are HOAs also prohibiting people from having Thanksgiving or Christmas parties in their own homes?

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 10:40 PM (u8kLQ)


I would never buy a house with an HOA. HOAs attract Nazi/Communist wannabes who have too much time on their hands, and want to control everyone else.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 10:44 PM (SRKgf)

192 Brandon Finnigan says red states and blue states are a myth.

http://tinyurl.com/gwvjfsq
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 01, 2016 10:39 PM (IqV8l)

====

After his NYT Interview pre election, he is dead to me.

Apologies to those here who like him, but I am done.

Posted by: Flyboy at December 01, 2016 10:44 PM (L+dg+)

193 My hunch is that's where some of the traditional Christian church is headed. But after the rise of megachurches, I'm not 100% sure that the comeback of very small personal micro-churches in private homes is the worst thing that could possibly happen.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 10:34 PM (u8kLQ)


We helped a pastor start a church about 4 years ago. We met in our home for about 6 months. It was a wonderful time.

Lots of churches, including ours, have small house meetings in addition to the main weekly service. That seems to be where the serious bit of "churching" happens.

I agree that house churches may be the future of real Christianity in America. Judaism, too -- there several small Orthodox synagogues operating out of homes in the Dallas area (I know the cantor at one).

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT at December 01, 2016 10:44 PM (nvMvs)

194 Even More Ginger Thursday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/804370505591586816

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/804370622658871297

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/804370757174358016

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/804370875017555968

Posted by: kbdabear at December 01, 2016 10:44 PM (Ya7zs)

195 @187 Put me in charge. I for damned sure would see to buffing its deterrent value.
--------------------

Even California favors capitol punishment.

Posted by: junior at December 01, 2016 10:45 PM (ff27+)

196 Are HOAs also prohibiting people from having Thanksgiving or Christmas parties in their own homes?

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 10:40 PM (u8kLQ)



Yes and no. Can they stop you from having people in your home? No. Not expressly. But they can put rules in place about things like cars being parked on the street. Kinda hard to have people gather at your home if they can't park their cars on the street in front of your home.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 10:45 PM (89UPP)

197 When googling, it is entertaining to type searches as what, why, how questions to see how google wants to finish the question.Was looking up pie day and got "is today a holiday"

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 01, 2016 10:45 PM (M3DRt)

198 Michael, exactly.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 10:45 PM (u8kLQ)

199
I was just reading: Melania managed to get an apology from Rosie O'Donnell for that shit about Barron being autistic. She was royally pissed, and the lawyers extracted an apology.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 01, 2016 10:45 PM (DW+jj)

200 There is no way I will ever pay money for anything that Joss Whedon is involved with. Disney, being fully on board with the SJW mindset, won't care, but one day they'll have lost enough money that they might start to care again.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 01, 2016 10:46 PM (MZcWR)

201 141osted by: shibumi It will all be normal soon! Nothing will be considered deviant in our new Liberal Utopia!


"Oh Brave New World that has such people in it!"

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 01, 2016 10:46 PM (pY+s4)

202 Are these refs employees of the Vikings or something? Sheesh.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 01, 2016 10:47 PM (bS6uW)

203 Even California favors capitol punishment.

Posted by: junior at December 01, 2016 10:45 PM (ff27+)



Capitol punishment is EXACTLY what we need in CA.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 10:47 PM (SRKgf)

204 Not being considered deviant takes all the fun out of it.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 01, 2016 10:47 PM (DW+jj)

205 @69, it's a double image because your eyes are unfocused; only one Santa has the bag of $$. The shiny part is the money standing out from the rest of the image because it's the only part that is different.

Posted by: Dr Alice at December 01, 2016 10:47 PM (LaT54)

206 So I finally was approved for a Gab account.

Do I care?

I looked at the trending hashtags and they seem to be all MAGA and Alt-right.

Obviously I'm quite on board with Trump and all, but I'm not sure I want the Vox Day comment section in a Twitter replacement.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at December 01, 2016 10:48 PM (wfDW1)

207 @203 Capitol punishment is EXACTLY what we need in CA.
-------------------

We have it. And not only did it survive a ballot proposition attempt to kill it, but apparently it's now a bit easier to carry out thanks to another ballot proposition.

(I don't know all the details, but my brother, who's a prosecutor, seemed to think it would help)

Posted by: junior at December 01, 2016 10:48 PM (ff27+)

208 >>>Yes and no. Can they stop you from having people in your home? No. Not expressly. But they can put rules in place about things like cars being parked on the street. Kinda hard to have people gather at your home if they can't park their cars on the street in front of your home.

Hit where it hurts, use mass transit. Put a bus stop, trolley stop, etc in the hood

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2016 10:48 PM (voOPb)

209 I would never buy a house with an HOA. HOAs attract Nazi/Communist wannabes who have too much time on their hands, and want to control everyone else.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
****

Agreed. I work with people who have an HOA and if I had to put up the crap they tell me about, I'd have gone postal within a week or two.
Stuff like you aren't allowed to work on your car in your driveway. You cannot park your car overnight in your driveway. People who do nothing but drive around the neighborhood repeatedly during the day looking for infractions to fine people for. Just maddening.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 10:48 PM (hVdx9)

210 "Brandon Finnigan says red states and blue states are a myth. "

You mean the guy taking buzzfeeds money? The guy using free labor to make that money?

Okay now.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 01, 2016 10:48 PM (d76uN)

211 Yes and no. Can they stop you from having people in your home? No. Not expressly. But they can put rules in place about things like cars being parked on the street. Kinda hard to have people gather at your home if they can't park their cars on the street in front of your home.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 10:45 PM (89UPP)



If someone did that to me, I would definitely send a reply. Round-Up on their landscaping leaps to mind.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 10:48 PM (SRKgf)

212 Then there's this:


Wisconsin Representative Sean Duffy (R-WI) went on with Tucker Carlson tonight to discuss the recount in Wisconsin.

Duffy said Democrats and far left Green Party supporters are stalling
the recount in Dane County Wisconsin, where Madison is located. The
county is holding a hand recount. The recount will not be completed by
the deadline on December 20th. Therefore, according to Rep. Duffy, the state will quite possibly be forced to forfeit their electoral votes.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 01, 2016 10:48 PM (OlyEd)

213
I was always taught that a church isn't a building and doesn't necessarily even have to solicit tithes. A church is anywhere Christians come together to worship. You could have a worship service with three friends, that lasts 15 minutes, in your living room, for instance.
Posted by: qdpsteve


Via etymonline.com

"Old English cirice, circe "church, public place of worship; Christians collectively," from Proto-Germanic *kirika (source also of Old Saxon kirika, Old Norse kirkja, Old Frisian zerke, Middle Dutch kerke, Dutch kerk, Old High German kirihha, German Kirche), probably [see note in OED] from Greek kyriake (oikia), kyriakon doma "Lord's (house)," from kyrios "ruler, lord," from PIE root *keue- "to swell" ("swollen," hence "strong, powerful"); see cumulus. Phonetic spelling from c. 1200, established by 16c. For vowel evolution, see bury. As an adjective from 1570s.

Greek kyriakon (adj.) "of the Lord" was used of houses of Christian worship since c.300, especially in the East, though it was less common in this sense than ekklesia or basilike. An example of the direct Greek-to-Germanic progress of many Christian words, via the Goths; it probably was used by West Germanic people in their pre-Christian period. "

Early christians met in homes and private spaces for convenience and discretion. The term church seems to imply an obvious religious building.

That's not to say the two are at cross purposes, but it may be good to realize that there's no Christian obligation to a mass congregation in a public building.

Christ never mentioned the 'how' and 'where,' IIRC.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 01, 2016 10:49 PM (1G5R8)

214 202
Are these refs employees of the Vikings or something? Sheesh.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 01, 2016 10:47 PM (bS6uW)

sure

Posted by: muttering vikings fan at December 01, 2016 10:49 PM (XoldI)

215 BCochran, I know HOAs can place rules about parking *in the residential community,* but on a public street? I would think the city would have the final say in that regard.

Sure, some creative problem solving might have to be worked into the equation. Still, I don't think it's hopeless (not that that's what I think you were saying).

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 10:49 PM (u8kLQ)

216 178 30 Days of Dead is still available
www.dead.net/30daysofdead?intcmp=home/carousel6
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 01, 2016 10:40 PM (84In0)


Thank you! The Shakedown seemed a bit disappointing, but the Help On The Way/Slipknot!/Franklin's Tower is very promising so far.

Posted by: Splunge at December 01, 2016 10:49 PM (iMxBJ)

217 So can Trump "unseal" Barack's records? He sealed them y executive order? Couldn't he use the same to unseal them. I know damn well that fraud used the foreign student angle

Posted by: Manor maven at December 01, 2016 10:49 PM (AqZIp)

218 Posted by: Dave in Fla at December 01, 2016 10:48 PM (wfDW1)


But Dave! You'll miss out on Kincannon crowing about how he personally helped skew polls in the Midwest and how that helped fuck over Hillary!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 10:49 PM (89UPP)

219 Agreed. I work with people who have an HOA and if I had to put up the crap they tell me about, I'd have gone postal within a week or two.
Stuff like you aren't allowed to work on your car in your driveway. You cannot park your car overnight in your driveway. People who do nothing but drive around the neighborhood repeatedly during the day looking for infractions to fine people for. Just maddening.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 10:48 PM (hVdx9)


A buddy has one that mandates he bring in his trash cans by NOON on trash day. He used to leave work to do it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 10:50 PM (SRKgf)

220 Incidentally, I think the potential threat of faithless electors might be part of the reason for Trump to throw a few bones to the GOPe so shortly after the election.

Electors tend to be politically connected types, after all. And if the GOPe, to whom they tend to be closely connected, straight-up told them to vote for Hillary instead, what do you think they'd do? Yeah. And a potential President Hillary would probably be happy to use a tiny portion of her influence to keep them from being punished for, you know, making her President and stuff.

It makes sense, and it also helps to get some of those guys who'd otherwise remain #NeverTrumpers on board with his agenda. I mean, is Mitch McConnell really gonna want to work against the President who gave his wife such a nice job as head of the DoT? I'm thinking that's a "no".

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 01, 2016 10:50 PM (0OG8D)

221 publius, good for Melania!! FINALLY, conservatives willing to fight back!!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 10:50 PM (u8kLQ)

222 Overzealous historic districts can be pains as well.

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 01, 2016 10:50 PM (M3DRt)

223 207 @203 Capitol punishment is EXACTLY what we need in CA.
-------------------

We have it. And not only did it survive a ballot proposition attempt to kill it, but apparently it's now a bit easier to carry out thanks to another ballot proposition.

(I don't know all the details, but my brother, who's a prosecutor, seemed to think it would help)

Posted by: junior at December 01, 2016 10:48 PM (ff27+)



I know. I was kidding. We need capital punishment in the capitol was where I was going.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 10:50 PM (SRKgf)

224 145 trump is already taking over the presidency, a month and a half early

kinda like Andrew taking over that press conference
Posted by: muttering vikings fan at December 01, 2016 10:33 PM (XoldI)



And his seal is much classier.

Posted by: buzzion at December 01, 2016 10:50 PM (z/Ubi)

225
And as for disproportionate application to poor people and minorities, who does this stupid think commit most of the crimes?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


It's like the disproportionate punishment in high schools.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 01, 2016 10:51 PM (IqV8l)

226 Sad commentary on the church. Liberal/progressive/leftist dogma poisons everything it comes in contact with.

Posted by: The Duke of Mish at December 01, 2016 10:51 PM (Tyii7)

227 MH, Jay, and weft-cut: yup, yup and yup. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 10:52 PM (u8kLQ)

228 Agreed. I work with people who have an HOA and if I had to put up the crap they tell me about, I'd have gone postal within a week or two.
Stuff like you aren't allowed to work on your car in your driveway. You cannot park your car overnight in your driveway. People who do nothing but drive around the neighborhood repeatedly during the day looking for infractions to fine people for. Just maddening.
---
I know someone who lives in a condo complex, and they have more rules than a Nazi Concentration Camp. And my (former) friend loves it. Loves the law and order. Loves the fact that every house looks like every other house. Loves EVERYTHING.

I wouldn't last a day. "Ms. Shibumi are you aware that you painted your front door red, put a gargoyle statue on the lawn and planted a garden in your yard? Thos are all against association rules. "

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 01, 2016 10:52 PM (OlyEd)

229 Duffy said Democrats and far left Green Party supporters are stalling

the recount in Dane County Wisconsin, where Madison is located. The

county is holding a hand recount. The recount will not be completed by

the deadline on December 20th. Therefore, according to Rep. Duffy,
the state will quite possibly be forced to forfeit their electoral
votes.



Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 01, 2016 10:48 PM (OlyEd)

Democrats.
If they're not cheating they're not trying.
Like running away out of state to prevent a vote.

Posted by: davidt at December 01, 2016 10:52 PM (XoldI)

230 191 I would never buy a house with an HOA. HOAs attract Nazi/Communist wannabes who have too much time on their hands, and want to control everyone else.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 10:44 PM (SRKgf)


Yeah. Back when I had money, I bought a place with an HOA. I proposed to replace the paved front yard parking with brick and raised planters. Not a hard call, aesthetically, but they acted like it was a tough one. I had to jump through hoops like a circus dog before they would let me make this obvious improvement.

Posted by: Splunge at December 01, 2016 10:52 PM (iMxBJ)

231 @214 - I hear you, I'm just griping. Your Vikes D is stout as always. Good luck down the stretch.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 01, 2016 10:53 PM (bS6uW)

232 226 Sad commentary on the church. Liberal/progressive/leftist dogma poisons everything it comes in contact with.
Posted by: The Duke of Mish at December 01, 2016 10:51 PM (Tyii7)

Unfortunately it's been going on for quite some time now, and there have been high-profile rifts in denominations because of it.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2016 10:53 PM (0mRoj)

233 The best part of the whole election for me, besides Trump winning of course, was the text I received at 3:00 am the next morning from a friend I had bet a $1,000.00 with in April that Trump would win. It read simply..."I have your cash on hand...How the fuck did you know?"...That old gut feeling rarely let`s you down!

Posted by: Thurston Howell Trump at December 01, 2016 10:53 PM (2vljx)

234 Hat trick reference above:

Tarasenko just got one. BLUUZ goal!

Posted by: mnw at December 01, 2016 10:53 PM (IsEQq)

235 An easy way to solve the Santa with the bag of Cash puzzle: Look at it like a 3D eye puzzle, the Santa with the bag of Cash will pop out immediately.

Posted by: Jaybee at December 01, 2016 10:53 PM (UxZF+)

236 Agreed. I work with people who have an HOA and if I had to put up the crap they tell me about, I'd have gone postal within a week or two.
Stuff like you aren't allowed to work on your car in your driveway. You cannot park your car overnight in your driveway. People who do nothing but drive around the neighborhood repeatedly during the day looking for infractions to fine people for. Just maddening.
---
I know someone who lives in a condo complex, and they have more rules than a Nazi Concentration Camp. And my (former) friend loves it. Loves the law and order. Loves the fact that every house looks like every other house. Loves EVERYTHING.

I wouldn't last a day. "Ms. Shibumi are you aware that you painted your front door red, put a gargoyle statue on the lawn and planted a garden in your yard? Thos are all against association rules. "


Posted by: shibumi
****

Then they should love Cuba and should move there. Some people are just f'd up.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 10:53 PM (hVdx9)

237 225
And as for disproportionate application to poor people and minorities, who does this stupid think commit most of the crimes?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
It's like the disproportionate punishment in high schools.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 01, 2016 10:51 PM (IqV8l)



Yep. Pet peeve #17,357: liberals who bleat that some asshole gang banger murderer is "only nineteen."

WTF do they think commits most murders, and most crimes? Pensioners? Social Security recipients? It's people between 15 and 25, retards.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 10:53 PM (SRKgf)

238 "Therefore, according to Rep. Duffy, the state will quite possibly be forced to forfeit their electoral votes."

There will either have to be a Law or a Court Order in place by Dec 13 for that to happen.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/5

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 01, 2016 10:54 PM (d76uN)

239 215 BCochran, I know HOAs can place rules about parking *in the residential community,* but on a public street? I would think the city would have the final say in that regard.

Sure, some creative problem solving might have to be worked into the equation. Still, I don't think it's hopeless (not that that's what I think you were saying).
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 10:49 PM (u8kLQ)



Lots of neighborhood streets aren't actually public streets in the end. And yeah, HOAs absolutely can dictate things like that. They do in many many neighborhoods.

I live in a neighborhood with an HOA, like tons of people do, and I actually don't think ours is ridiculously out of hand. Funny thing, the "HOA" actually isn't. The way ours works, the developer IS the HOA until they finish building out the neighborhood, a certain time period after that point passes, and a certain percentage of the homes have been sold.

Here's the fun part, the "HOA" (developer) can't actually enforce any fines they levy against us for violations. For some reason that's written into the agreement. The rep let that slip to my wife in a convo once. "Wait, you mean you can't actually force payment of the fine, like through a lien on the home?" "Uhhh...no ma'am." "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Then we're all done here. Don't even bother trying to send us anything again."

Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 10:54 PM (89UPP)

240 But Dave! You'll miss out on Kincannon crowing about how he personally helped skew polls in the Midwest and how that helped fuck over Hillary!

--------------

Speaking of which, that asshole owes me an apology over Trayvon Martin. I told him it looked like a legal self defense case and he pulled the "I'm a lawyer" bullshit.

I told him I'd be back in a few months to collect an apology when Zimmerman walked.

Too bad I quit Twitter.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at December 01, 2016 10:55 PM (wfDW1)

241 Fucking Cowboys.

Even when I have their defense in fantasy and I *want* them to succeed, they fuck me.

Posted by: logprof at December 01, 2016 10:55 PM (emDjj)

242 237 Yep. Pet peeve #17,357: liberals who bleat that some asshole gang banger murderer is "only nineteen."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 10:53 PM (SRKgf)


I was only 18! Let me off the hook!

Posted by: Abdul the Ahole OSU Terrorist at December 01, 2016 10:55 PM (iMxBJ)

243 If Neil had been consumed by a lunar Graboid when he stepped off the LEM, the Buzz would look pretty damn smart right now.
Posted by: Roy at December 01, 2016 10:38 PM (



Just to get into the astronaut program you had to be a State Champion Graboid Wrassler.

Posted by: Halfwise at December 01, 2016 10:55 PM (rB/gm)

244
Yeah. Back when I had money, I bought a place with an HOA. I proposed to replace the paved front yard parking with brick and raised planters. Not a hard call, aesthetically, but they acted like it was a tough one. I had to jump through hoops like a circus dog before they would let me make this obvious improvement.

Posted by: Splunge at December 01, 2016 10:52 PM (iMxBJ)



To YOUR OWN PROPERTY.

AT YOUR OWN EXPENSE.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 10:55 PM (SRKgf)

245 Posted by: davidt at December 01, 2016 10:52 PM (X

We have a pretty decent GOP Atty General. I wouldn't be surprised if he files suit 7th District Ct of Appeals for some type of relief

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2016 10:55 PM (voOPb)

246 It was Gen. Mattis who directed the action against the attack ships off the shoulder of Orion.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2016 10:55 PM (ZO497)

247 Vikings offense sucks.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 01, 2016 10:56 PM (pY+s4)

248 I also saw something else. Melania's lawyer's (Trump has an army of 'em to deploy when need be) got the Daily Mail to take down a piece, and are suing the blogger who originally put it up. It was a claim that Melania was working as a high end call girl in NY and that's why she was at the party where she met Donald.

The DM ran a story about it.

Expect to see all sorts of "Melania is a whore" stuff from the left.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 01, 2016 10:56 PM (DW+jj)

249 Posted by: Manor maven at December 01, 2016 10:49 PM (AqZIp)

I think sealing the records is done for all POTUS, isn't it? After Nixon?

I always thought the outcry on that when Obama did it was a bit overblown.

And yes, I think Trump can overturn it,which is what some the others before him did.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 10:56 PM (lkEum)

250 BCochran, then that needs to be challenged in court. HOAs have no business making any kind of rules about roads that are paid for by everyone, regardless of where they live.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 10:56 PM (u8kLQ)

251 188 @165

I mean...there's no beloved character called Neil Lightyear, so I think in the end....Buzz wins.
Posted by: TickledPink at December 01, 2016 10:43 PM (smD62)



Buzz is the cool sidekick. Neil Armstrong is The Fucking Man.

Posted by: buzzion at December 01, 2016 10:56 PM (z/Ubi)

252 Kinda hard to have people gather at your home if they can't park their cars on the street in front of your home.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 10:45 PM (89UPP)


Delurking here: I recall reading about a town that fined people for parking at someone's house a few years ago. Too many cars in the driveway and in the street. They were conducting bible study one day a week and they considered it a church on residential land or something like that.

Posted by: Bill R. at December 01, 2016 10:56 PM (escKN)

253 You know what's great? I feel like I don't have to worry about our country so much anymore. Trump's at the wheel already.

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at December 01, 2016 10:32 PM (Om16U)


Trump telling Cuba to forget any deal they made with Ahbama. Beautiful.




Posted by: Hey! Wait! That's my chair. at December 01, 2016 10:56 PM (iuoTc)

254 Yes and no. Can they stop you from having people in your home? No. Not expressly. But they can put rules in place about things like cars being parked on the street. Kinda hard to have people gather at your home if they can't park their cars on the street in front of your home.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 10:45 PM (89UPP)

=====

I faced this last Christmas as the Company Christmas party was at my house in a newer sub division with those freaking 2 car wide streets.

Solution: There is a small church next to the entrance to subdivision. I rented their parking lot and rented a 16 person shuttle bus. HOA was freaking furious, but nothing they could do.

Bwahaha.

Posted by: Flyboy at December 01, 2016 10:56 PM (L+dg+)

255 248 I also saw something else. Melania's lawyer's (Trump has an army of 'em to deploy when need be) got the Daily Mail to take down a piece, and are suing the blogger who originally put it up. It was a claim that Melania was working as a high end call girl in NY and that's why she was at the party where she met Donald.

The DM ran a story about it.

Expect to see all sorts of "Melania is a whore" stuff from the left.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 01, 2016 10:56 PM (DW+jj)

People were saying this shit well before the election.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2016 10:56 PM (0mRoj)

256 162 Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 01, 2016 10:29 PM (R+30W)

If you think I know how to do what you're talking about? Well, you give me too much credit.



It looks like another one of my misadventures being a cob. While doing the final go thru it all worked

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2016 10:37 PM (voOPb)

++++

That's JJ's exact excuse!

I don't know what you see on your end when you embed the videos, I can only look and see the differences in what come out on the page, plus look at the source for the page.

But, if you try playing your 2 Musical Interlude videos, the Kinks one is totally normal. Once you hit play, you can go down to the bar at the bottom and tweak the volume to just where you want it. But, with the Drifters video, if you try to go down to that bar, it's just not there. So, you can't adjust the volume.

Looking at the page source, the difference between the two source links shows a difference.

src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/
FwxzMPnT5qY" frameborder="0"

src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/
GfZPtkqXQIA?rel=0controls=0&
amp;showinfo=0"

And if you look at this page

https://developers.google.com/
youtube/player_parameters

it tells you the following about controls=0

controls=0 - Player controls do not display in the player. For IFrame embeds, the Flash player loads immediately.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 01, 2016 10:57 PM (R+30W)

257 Vikings offense sucks.

Posted by: Puddleglum
****

You are offended by their offense?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 10:57 PM (hVdx9)

258 Late to the arty as usual.
Is there a conversation going that I can add to?
No? Ok...

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 10:57 PM (aL/aJ)

259 This Coke commercial makes me want to punch something. Its awful. I'd boycot Coke but I don't drink it.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 01, 2016 10:57 PM (pY+s4)

260 #229: This makes me so happy that Karl Rove's "just get to 270, and be happy with that" strategy was not in effect this year.

Both times George W. Bush was elected, his opponent tried to challenge the result and would've succeeded by overturning just one state.

Trump, on the other hand, fought for every state he thought he might be able to win. As a result, Hillary would have to overturn at least three states to steal the election.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 01, 2016 10:57 PM (0OG8D)

261 Cowboys back in the lead, 14-9.

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT at December 01, 2016 10:57 PM (nvMvs)

262 There is no way I will ever pay money for anything that Joss Whedon is involved with. Disney, being fully on board with the SJW mindset, won't care, but one day they'll have lost enough money that they might start to care again.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm


I was on the bubble with the last one; yes, it was an obvious exercise in political stunt casting but i was willing to suspend politics for a bit in order to wash away the lucas prequels.

Rouge Wan seals the tomb for me. Fuck them and all their neo-marxist bullshit.

Somewhere out there is a rebel about to launch a cinematic torpedo at our cinematic Betters that will scuttle their pretentious ship of fools.

Godspeed, and damn the excitables.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 01, 2016 10:58 PM (1G5R8)

263 Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 01, 2016 10:29 PM (R+30W)

Is it fixed?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2016 10:58 PM (42Mgr)

264 Pie? OH boy, do I love pie!

Coconut cream is numero uno. But they're all good.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2016 10:58 PM (EZebt)

265 Speaking of which, that asshole owes me an apology over Trayvon Martin. I told him it looked like a legal self defense case and he pulled the "I'm a lawyer" bullshit.

I told him I'd be back in a few months to collect an apology when Zimmerman walked.

Too bad I quit Twitter.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at December 01, 2016 10:55 PM (wfDW1)



Don't think it would do any good. Pretty sure he got booted from Twitter.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 10:58 PM (89UPP)

266 Trump telling Cuba to forget any deal they made with Ahbama. Beautiful.






Posted by: Hey! Wait! That's my chair
****

God yes! Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Uhhhhh, uhhhhh, whew.

Posted by: Guy Who Can't Stop Splooging at December 01, 2016 10:58 PM (hVdx9)

267 239, it is the other edge of the sword so that allows the builder/declarant to not pay dues.

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 01, 2016 10:58 PM (M3DRt)

268 248 I also saw something else. Melania's lawyer's (Trump has an army of 'em to deploy when need be) got the Daily Mail to take down a piece, and are suing the blogger who originally put it up. It was a claim that Melania was working as a high end call girl in NY and that's why she was at the party where she met Donald.


No one would ever accuse Moochelle of being a high end call girl, that's for sure.

Or a low end call girl, for that matter.

Not even too sure about "girl" at all, for that matter.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 10:59 PM (SRKgf)

269 257: not a Vikings fan but I hate Dallas. They'll win tonight because the Vikings suck.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 01, 2016 10:59 PM (pY+s4)

270 I was just reading: Melania managed to get an apology from Rosie O'Donnell for that shit about Barron being autistic. She was royally pissed, and the lawyers extracted an apology.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 01, 2016 10:45 PM (DW+jj)




well you make it seem easier than it was. melania's lawyers had to sneak up on her while she was grazing in central park and tranquilize her. two lawyers were sent to the hospital with injuries during the extraction process.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 10:59 PM (cPsPa)

271 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 01, 2016 10:56 PM (DW+jj)


Eh, if it's good enough for the Queen of Spain (Princess? Letizia?) and Grace Kelly....

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 10:59 PM (lkEum)

272 250 BCochran, then that needs to be challenged in court. HOAs have no business making any kind of rules about roads that are paid for by everyone, regardless of where they live.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 10:56 PM (u8kLQ)


That's what I'm saying, they aren't public streets. Many neighborhoods are responsible for maintaining the roads themselves.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 11:00 PM (89UPP)

273 Pie? OH boy, do I love pie!

Coconut cream is numero uno. But they're all good.

Posted by: San Franpsycho
****

Hair pie!

Posted by: Takashi (Nerd) at December 01, 2016 11:00 PM (hVdx9)

274 238
"Therefore, according to Rep. Duffy, the state will quite possibly be forced to forfeit their electoral votes."



There will either have to be a Law or a Court Order in place by Dec 13 for that to happen.



https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/5

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 01, 2016 10:54 PM (d76uN)

At the link. Can you translate that into Moron?

Posted by: davidt at December 01, 2016 11:00 PM (XoldI)

275 Xavier Rhodes is like a one-man double team.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 01, 2016 11:01 PM (bS6uW)

276
Too bad I quit Twitter.
Posted by: Dave in Fla


heh. We can't all be internet heroes.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 01, 2016 11:01 PM (1G5R8)

277 244 To YOUR OWN PROPERTY.
AT YOUR OWN EXPENSE.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 10:55 PM (SRKgf)


All of that. There was something they enjoyed about the whole thing. I don't know where their enjoyment came from, but I'm pretty sure it is the same thing that is trying to destroy the world.

Posted by: Splunge at December 01, 2016 11:01 PM (iMxBJ)

278 Not even too sure about "girl" at all, for that matter.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 10:59 PM (SRKgf)

There's a fullblown conspiracy theory about that.
Maybe even a subreddit.

Someone here posted a dick-pic of her the other night, it was hysterical.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:01 PM (lkEum)

279
Then they should love Cuba and should move there. Some people are just f'd up.
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There are people out there who hate making decisions.

These people would be fine under a totalitarian rule, since they would have minimal responsibility for their daily lives. Instead of Mommy/Daddy telling them what to do, or their husband/wife telling them what do, the government would do it. I know quite a few people like that unfortunately.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 01, 2016 11:01 PM (OlyEd)

280 238
"Therefore, according to Rep. Duffy, the state will quite possibly be forced to forfeit their electoral votes."



There will either have to be a Law or a Court Order in place by Dec 13 for that to happen.



https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/5

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 01, 2016 10:54 PM (d76uN)

At the link. Can you translate that into Moron?


Posted by: davidt
****

Can you do a puppet show for us?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 11:01 PM (hVdx9)

281 BCochran, I know sometimes it can be confusing whether a street is actually public or private. But then again IMHO a lot of HOA residents need to go to their city halls and find out *exactly* what their rights are, versus their responsibilities. Also, find out exactly which streets belong to the community versus which belong to the entire general public.

I know HOA directors want their subjects to believe everything in the law supports their side, but that's bunk.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 11:02 PM (u8kLQ)

282 Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 10:56 PM (u8kLQ)

So you've never tried to stay overnight at someone's place in certain areas of Cerritos then?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:02 PM (lkEum)

283 Can you do a puppet show for us?
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 11:01 PM (hVdx9)

Fine, dicknuts!

Posted by: Pam Poovey at December 01, 2016 11:03 PM (0mRoj)

284 255: so what if she was? the beast is still the biggest, ugliest, most fucked up whore ever. she just took money, never performed. fuck the msm. with one of those louiseville sluggers wrapped in barbed wire. no more pitching for those assclowns.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 01, 2016 11:03 PM (KP5rU)

285 272 250 BCochran, then that needs to be challenged in court. HOAs have no business making any kind of rules about roads that are paid for by everyone, regardless of where they live.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 10:56 PM (u8kLQ)

That's what I'm saying, they aren't public streets. Many neighborhoods are responsible for maintaining the roads themselves.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 11:00 PM (89UPP)



CDD fees. "A CDD has the authority to issue tax exempt bonds at favorable rates and spend the proceeds on developing and improving a neighborhood infrastructure."

http://tampamoves.com/buy/tampa-home-search/homework/what-is-a-cdd/

Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 11:03 PM (89UPP)

286 263 Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 01, 2016 10:29 PM (R+30W)

Is it fixed?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2016 10:58 PM (42Mgr)

++++

Beautiful!

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 01, 2016 11:03 PM (R+30W)

287 According to TV host David Pakman, "wak wak wak wak wak... byewww byeww byeww bwok bwok"

FIFY

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 01, 2016 11:03 PM (sK2fh)

288 Then they should love Cuba and should move there. Some people are just f'd up.
---
There are people out there who hate making decisions.

These people would be fine under a totalitarian rule, since they would have minimal responsibility for their daily lives. Instead of Mommy/Daddy telling them what to do, or their husband/wife telling them what do, the government would do it. I know quite a few people like that unfortunately.


Posted by: shibumi
****

I work with some people who when faced with spending money on trivial crap they don't need, or having enough money to buy gas to get to work for the week, spend it on the crap!

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 11:04 PM (hVdx9)

289 Solution: There is a small church next to the entrance to subdivision. I rented their parking lot and rented a 16 person shuttle bus. HOA was freaking furious, but nothing they could do.

Bwahaha.
Posted by: Flyboy


Yep, yep, yep.

That's how it's done. Legal, compliant with HOA, and impossible to lodge a viable complaint against.


... then again it's all fun and games until the house next door becomes a mosque.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 01, 2016 11:04 PM (1G5R8)

290 Tammy, I don't have any personal friends in Cerritos. :-)

I have to admit that I like Cerritos; for all their rules, they've ended up with a very nice, very quiet, very low-crime/low-incident community. I've also heard that while they have some ridiculous rules (like the official approved "Cerritos colors" when you want to paint your house), other rules have either been left unenforced for years, forgotten about, been litigated away, etc etc. It's definitely not Soviet there, that's for sure.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 11:04 PM (u8kLQ)

291 By all means, let Hillary Clinton, a Democrat, personally disenfranchise an entire state that usually goes Democrat in presidential elections.

I'm sure that will work out to the benefit of the Democrat party, right?

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 01, 2016 11:04 PM (0OG8D)

292 GP-100 at the FFL.

My schadenboner isn't just for General Mattis.

That is all.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2016 10:09 PM (42Mgr)

4 or 6?
Blue or SS?
Match Champ?

Spill, man.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 01, 2016 11:04 PM (kKHcp)

293 Is it safe?

No, Obama just got elected.

Is it safe?

No, he got re-elected, believe it or not. It's a media thing.

Is it safe?

Almost. In less than 50 days, Trump will be President.

Is it -- wait, what?

Posted by: Splunge at December 01, 2016 11:05 PM (iMxBJ)

294 281, a good tell in Atlanta is who is responsible for street sweeping. If not the City, private road

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 01, 2016 11:05 PM (M3DRt)

295 Someone here posted a dick-pic of her the other night, it was hysterical.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:01 PM (lkEum)




second class scotch all over the keyboard! is obama the one that posted it?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 11:05 PM (cPsPa)

296 Can you do a puppet show for us?
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 11:01 PM (hVdx9)

Fine, dicknuts!

Posted by: Pam Poovey
****

Shut up Pam!

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 11:05 PM (hVdx9)

297 It's Letizia, Queen Letizia now. Declared best royal ass at one time, but she's getting terribly thin, now. Anorexic looking. At one time, don't know about now, but I remember seeing some picture where she did look anorexic.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 01, 2016 11:05 PM (DW+jj)

298 Thank you Mr. CBD

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2016 11:05 PM (voOPb)

299 Well, yeah, but I was working on the political context angle.
Posted by: Flyboy at December 01, 2016 10:32 PM (L+dg+)


Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:05 PM (lkEum)

300 294 281, a good tell in Atlanta is who is responsible for street sweeping. If not the City, private road

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 01, 2016 11:05 PM (M3DRt)



Yup. Or snow plowing up north.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 11:06 PM (89UPP)

301 All of that. There was something they enjoyed about the whole thing. I don't know where their enjoyment came from, but I'm pretty sure it is the same thing that is trying to destroy the world.

Posted by: Splunge at December 01, 2016 11:01 PM (iMxBJ)



Some people - we call them "liberals" - seem to feel the need to control others, perhaps to assuage their own internal but well-founded feelings of inferiority. Other people - we call them "conservatives" - just want to be left alone.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 11:06 PM (SRKgf)

302
How do we know that obama's approval rating polls are as bullshit as the pre-election polls?

Because he's still over 50% while our new president is at just 42%, which is 5 points lower than his election results.

This makes No Sense. It makes no sense because it's a Lie. These polls are fake or they are manipulated/massaged with their heavy-D samples.

So obama is probably at 40%. Trump is probably at 50%.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:06 PM (qWvcB)

303 I know. I was kidding. We need capital punishment in the capitol was where I was going.
----------------

Doh. Pun. Missed it.

And yeah, I wouldn't complain too much if the Bay Area, Sacramento, and Silicon Valley all suddenly vanished into thin air.

Posted by: junior at December 01, 2016 11:06 PM (ff27+)

304 Don't think it would do any good. Pretty sure he got booted from Twitter.
Posted by: BCochran1981


Booted more than once. Today again, in fact.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 01, 2016 11:07 PM (1G5R8)

305
My guess that I just pulled outta my ass is probably more accurate than the RCP aggregate of all the bullshit polls.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:07 PM (qWvcB)

306 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 01, 2016 11:05 PM (DW+jj)

Maybe worried about being outed as a yacht girl before her broadcasting gig?

She's a pretty woman, seems likeable, I hope she's okay.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:07 PM (lkEum)

307 I know Obama is staying in D.C. after he leaves office so he can criticize and nag at Trump but I'm thinking Trump is going to be sucking up all the air in Washington thus making it impossible for Obama to get a word in edgewise

Posted by: Tuna at December 01, 2016 11:07 PM (JSovD)

308 "Therefore, according to Rep. Duffy, the state will quite possibly be forced to forfeit their electoral votes."

Sounds like FakeNews to me. If it were true, Democrats would contest every single election using this method.

Posted by: t-bird at December 01, 2016 11:07 PM (/wWB4)

309 "At the link. Can you translate that into Moron?"

I'll try and I do hope at least some one else will check my work for correctness.

So anyhoo...

Even if the recount is still going on Dec 13, there will either need to be a State Law or a Court Order to prevent Wisconsin from appointing their Electors.

Now according to the 12th Amendment of the Constitution, even if the Wisconsin Electors are not appointed, all Trump would need is the majority of the remaining Electors to become President.

So instead of a majority of 535, he would need a majority of 523. This would also apply to any other States that might not appoint Electors.

For reference look at the Election of 1864 in which the southern slave states did not participate.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 01, 2016 11:07 PM (d76uN)

310 >>>then again it's all fun and games until the house next door becomes a mosque.

Time to become a pig rancher then

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2016 11:07 PM (voOPb)

311 I'm a Realtor. I'd *never* buy a house in a true addition that didn't have an HOA.

But I'd also never buy a house in an HOA without first reviewing the Covenants and Restrictions for that HOA. So long as you know what you're getting into in regard to the HOA, you'll be fine.

Without an HOA, have fun with your neighbors on both sides having 18-wheelers parked on the street and beat-up boats and non-running cars in their driveways.

Posted by: Crusader at December 01, 2016 11:08 PM (OXPMi)

312 Beautiful!

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 01, 2016 11:03 PM

Yeah.....deleting shit at random will usually work.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2016 11:08 PM (42Mgr)

313 Hello Horde,

I was browsing a Western Horsemen at my chiros and read an article about a ranch horsemanship program for wounded vets. Sounded loke a cool program, article mentioned they get funds from semper fi fund so I donated to semper fi for one of my Xmas month charity bits. When I did I saw on the page that some wealthy veteran is matching donations to the Semper fi fund through this month up to 10 million from a fund he started.

Or if you want to donate to a horde member and help a veteran out SMFH's fund for expenses from Carl's battle with lung caner and burial is still in my nic. You cool and witty posters could probably help her out by linking to the fund.

Posted by: PaleRider, link to SMFH funeral expenses for Carl at December 01, 2016 11:08 PM (dkExz)

314 Booted more than once. Today again, in fact.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 01, 2016 11:07 PM (1G5R



Lol. I don't really know a whole lot about him other than a general impression from twitter. And that general impression is basically "asshole".

Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 11:08 PM (89UPP)

315 The fall of the mainstream Christian Churches of the U.S.A.

Pikers.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 01, 2016 11:08 PM (+lVUW)

316
The Fake News would have you believe Donald Trump is actually less popular now than the day before he won.

And obama is now more popular.
Total bullshit.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:08 PM (qWvcB)

317
I work with some people who when faced with spending money on trivial crap they don't need, or having enough money to buy gas to get to work for the week, spend it on the crap!
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I can best you on that one.

I'm self-employed, have a different income every month and pay estimated taxes. And my own health insurance. Of course.

I know people who work full time, have all the benefits, and live off their credit cards. They'll lose all their money at the casino and have no gas money until their next paycheck. Or waste grocery money on things like pre-boiled eggs, and have no money to buy a candy bar in a vending machine. And all they do is complain about how hard the have it. Poor, poor full time employees with paid healthcare, paid vacations, predictable incomes and no estimated taxes.

/yes, I had to get rid of a lot of people in my life who were not understanding. I wish I could say I regret it, but I don't.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 01, 2016 11:08 PM (OlyEd)

318 Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu, I hope like hell he does. The secrecy is not needed. It is just too f'in weird that he is not remembered AT ALL from his first college. I don't buy his new found " let's all get along kumbayya shit" about the transition to Trump either. He's TOO concilatory to a man he has to know is going to rip apart his vaunted legacy. Call me tin hat worthy, but I think they are being all nicey nicey now about this recount deal because they already know the fix might actually be in.

Posted by: Manor maven at December 01, 2016 11:09 PM (AqZIp)

319 BCochran, so what are you saying? That HOAs are all-powerful and can make any rule about anything at any time for any reason, and fuck the city or greater community?

I'm sorry, I'm sick of this "it's all hopeless" attitude. If that's how you really feel, then just kill yourself.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 11:09 PM (u8kLQ)

320 The WI guy on Hannity said at the end, they'd have to go to court, iirc.

I think the federal law posted perhaps means they can't disenfranchise the voters by not finishing a recount, but I'm not real clear on that process.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 01, 2016 11:09 PM (pS/eA)

321 I have to admit that I like Cerritos; for all their rules, they've ended up with a very nice, very quiet, very low-crime/low-incident community.


Pffft. That's pretty much any middle class or higher social class white community. No need for an HOA for that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 11:09 PM (SRKgf)

322 dick pics of moochele don't even have to be shopped. amazing. i always thought brothers had the dominating equipment.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 01, 2016 11:09 PM (KP5rU)

323 I'm not 100% sure that the comeback of very small personal micro-churches in private homes is the worst thing that could possibly happen.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 10:34 PM (u8kLQ)

That's how we do it. Small group, 4 -6 at a time. And not always on Sunday because you know some folks don't get *traditional* days off. We send our tithes to local charities and to preachers we like from the internet or radio. (Shout out to "Joshua's Trail") Some would think we aren't good Christians 'cause we aren't in a pew on Sunday. I know better.

Posted by: cfomahm at December 01, 2016 11:09 PM (RfzVr)

324 Christmas??


No. Way too early.

Posted by: eleven at December 01, 2016 11:10 PM (qUNWi)

325 319 BCochran, so what are you saying? That HOAs are all-powerful and can make any rule about anything at any time for any reason, and fuck the city or greater community?

I'm sorry, I'm sick of this "it's all hopeless" attitude. If that's how you really feel, then just kill yourself.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 11:09 PM (u8kLQ)



The actual fuck are you talking about? I said no such thing, dumbass. And make another "kill yourself" type comment, to anyone, and you can find somewhere else to sling shit. Perhaps you should go take a walk and a breather.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 11:10 PM (89UPP)

326 Charlie Hebdo was always dead. They just needed a physical reminder.

Posted by: Corona at December 01, 2016 11:10 PM (xVq5B)

327 Hey Misanthropic Humanitarian,

I fixed that video, but we should definitely ban Anon Y. Mous for demanding so much when all he has is a fvcking cardboard membership.

Cheap bastard.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2016 11:10 PM (42Mgr)

328
Time to become a pig rancher then
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian


"Hi, health inspector again! Oh, and, heheheh, the zoning guy is here with me. So, hehe, ding-dong!"

Posted by: Your Betters in Local Governance at December 01, 2016 11:11 PM (1G5R8)

329 301 Some people - we call them "liberals" - seem to feel the need to control others, perhaps to assuage their own internal but well-founded feelings of inferiority. Other people - we call them "conservatives" - just want to be left alone.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 11:06 PM (SRKgf)


I would strongly recommend the YouTube conversation between Stefan Molyneaux and Gavin McInnis to anyone on our side, but I would especially recommend it to you. This exact point, about the divide between people who want to be left alone, and people who want to control other people, came up. Plus, it's brilliant. Often you see videos where the interviewer has a set of topics, and segues between them. Much rarer is a long conversation between two seriously smart people that just flows, so that no explicit agenda is needed. Recommended in the strongest possible terms.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jt3uuny

Posted by: Splunge at December 01, 2016 11:11 PM (iMxBJ)

330 Michelle's penis sized clit will be gone soon enough.

Posted by: eleven at December 01, 2016 11:11 PM (qUNWi)

331 How do we know that obama's approval rating polls are as bullshit as the pre-election polls?

Because he's still over 50% while our new president is at just 42%, which is 5 points lower than his election results.



The pollsters have to poll somewhere besides bathhouses.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 11:11 PM (SRKgf)

332 Splunge, if you don't already have it, you can still get to last year's 30 Days of Dead. Here's the first one, just plug in the other day numbers into the URL to get to the rest:

http://www.dead.net/30daysofdead/nov-1-2015

Posted by: Top.Man. at December 01, 2016 11:11 PM (AZIOF)

333 Posted by: Manor maven at December 01, 2016 11:09 PM (AqZIp)

Oh I agree on almost everything you say! I think Obama is being way too quiet and downright gracious in many ways.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:12 PM (lkEum)

334 Even California favors capitol punishment.
Posted by: junior at December 01, 2016 10:45 PM


You've been to Sacramento, I see.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 01, 2016 11:12 PM (DMUuz)

335 cfomahm, that's what I'm talking about!

BCochran, I didn't mean you personally should kill yourself.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 11:12 PM (u8kLQ)

336 311 Without an HOA, have fun with your neighbors on both sides having 18-wheelers parked on the street and beat-up boats and non-running cars in their driveways.
Posted by: Crusader at December 01, 2016 11:08 PM (OXPMi)


I don't really mind any of that. Is that weird?

Posted by: Splunge at December 01, 2016 11:13 PM (iMxBJ)

337 This guy has a very interesting analysis of michelle's dick on ellen. funny heats up around 3 mins.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 11:13 PM (cPsPa)

338 man, the shit stirrers are out tonite.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 01, 2016 11:13 PM (KP5rU)

339 Recommended in the strongest possible terms.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jt3uuny

Posted by: Splunge at December 01, 2016 11:11 PM (iMxBJ)


Thanks. I'll check it out.

I routinely ask my wife: "you know what I REALLY want?"

"Yeah. To be left alone."

"Yep. That's all. Doesn't seem like it's asking so much, does it?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 11:13 PM (SRKgf)

340 can best you on that one.

I'm self-employed, have a different income every month and pay estimated taxes. And my own health insurance. Of course.

I know people who work full time, have all the benefits, and live off their credit cards. They'll lose all their money at the casino and have no gas money until their next paycheck. Or waste grocery money on things like pre-boiled eggs, and have no money to buy a candy bar in a vending machine. And all they do is complain about how hard the have it. Poor, poor full time employees with paid healthcare, paid vacations, predictable incomes and no estimated taxes.

/yes, I had to get rid of a lot of people in my life who were not understanding. I wish I could say I regret it, but I don't.


Posted by: shibumi
****

They sound like the coworkers I mentioned. They constantly complain about being broke, but have the latest I-phone every time a new one comes out, they eat out for lunch daily, they have expensive cable packages, expensive headphones to listen to music on their phone, and a million apps.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 11:13 PM (hVdx9)

341 Please go to YouTube and watch Keshen8's latest bit with stop-action Lego work, "Civil War"

"The Superhero Registration Act." Heh.

He's gotta be a moron.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at December 01, 2016 11:13 PM (U6f54)

342 That escalated unexpectedly

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 01, 2016 11:13 PM (M3DRt)

343 This guy has a very interesting analysis of michelle's dick on ellen. funny heats up around 3 mins.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 11:13 PM (cPsPa)




This guy




http://tinyurl.com/jpf29z3

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 11:14 PM (cPsPa)

344 BCochran, I didn't mean you personally should kill yourself.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 11:12 PM (u8kLQ)


That's fine and all, but seeing as how we've lost several Morons to suicide over the last couple years, a Hostage that was a Moron way back in the day as well, that's something that's just not ok in my book.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 11:14 PM (89UPP)

345 I don't really mind any of that. Is that weird?

Well...yeah.

I mind that.

Posted by: eleven at December 01, 2016 11:14 PM (qUNWi)

346 I like Cerritos, too; very much. It's also not all white, Jay. Very middle class, professional black folks and Asians, probably more Asians now.

I'm just saying there are definitely parts, and IIRC it's the part over by Liberty Park, where you cannot do anything, including park on the street overnight. Huge condo complex, I think, but they look more like single family homes.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:14 PM (lkEum)

347 Lol. I don't really know a whole lot about him other than a general impression from twitter. And that general impression is basically "asshole".
Posted by: BCochran1981


Manic depressive behavior does tend to lead to a diagnosis of rectal-cranial inversion. Butt then again, the right could make up for the imbalance vis a vis the Left's dominance in the area.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 01, 2016 11:15 PM (1G5R8)

348 I think Cerritos and Irvine were among the first "planned communities" in CA, or at least first in SoCal.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:15 PM (lkEum)

349 Where is Cerritos?

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 01, 2016 11:15 PM (M3DRt)

350
Everyone breath.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:15 PM (qWvcB)

351 Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 01, 2016 11:04 PM (kKHcp)

4" SS full shroud. The trigger on the match version is nicer, but not $100+ nicer....

And I think I may have found an indoor range 1/2 mile from my house!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2016 11:16 PM (42Mgr)

352 The Cowboys certainly handled that well.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 01, 2016 11:16 PM (bS6uW)

353 >> She's a pretty woman, seems likeable, I hope she's okay.


I just sort of searched around. The Daily Mail (of course) had some photos of her this year. She didn't look as thin as that one shot I remember. She looks okay, but a little gaunt.

And I read that some of those Saudi princes and other Middle Eastern bigwigs pay about $40K per night for yacht girls.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 01, 2016 11:16 PM (DW+jj)

354 Whoa! I just realized something kind of interesting. The last Democrat to concede a Presidential election graciously, and accept the will of the electorate, the way Republicans always do, was Michael Dukakis.

That was 28 years ago.

Twenty-eight!

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 01, 2016 11:16 PM (0OG8D)

355 Some people - we call them "liberals" - seem to feel the need to control others,...
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Scratch a liberal, find a Nazi.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2016 11:16 PM (ZO497)

356 I don't really mind any of that. Is that weird?

No, not at all. The bitch of it is when you suddenly find that you need to sell that same house. A good percentage of your potential buyers will find that they can't focus on the house itself because your neighbors have cratered the "curb appeal".

Posted by: Crusader at December 01, 2016 11:16 PM (OXPMi)

357 >>>I fixed that video, but we should definitely ban Anon Y. Mous for demanding so much when all he has is a fvcking cardboard membership.


All that trouble for a cardboard member?


Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2016 11:17 PM (voOPb)

358 BCochran, apologies. I was speaking methaphorically but definitely didn't take the time to make my point clearly. And I don't need any more enemies, nor would I *ever* encourage anyone to commit suicide.

I *do* get very sick of pessimistic attitudes, though, and I should know as I've been guilty of displaying them myself.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 11:17 PM (u8kLQ)

359 look, Hillary won, get over it!

a-ha-ha-ha, I made myself laugh, now I feel ready for bed

Posted by: Mallfly ver 2.0001 at December 01, 2016 11:17 PM (2JQBv)

360
It's almost Christmas!

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:17 PM (qWvcB)

361 I like Cerritos, too; very much. It's also not all white, Jay. Very middle class, professional black folks and Asians, probably more Asians now.


Fair enough, but my point was that most middle class white neighborhoods - including my own - fit the same description, and don't need or have an HOA.

So the quality of life there has less to do with the HOA than with the type of people of live there.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 11:17 PM (SRKgf)

362 They sound like the coworkers I mentioned. They constantly complain about being broke, but have the latest I-phone every time a new one comes out, they eat out for lunch daily, they have expensive cable packages, expensive headphones to listen to music on their phone, and a million apps.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 11:13 PM (hVdx9)

I've known plenty of people like this. They're utterly clueless about the connection between their spending habits and their cash position.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2016 11:18 PM (0mRoj)

363 Rosie made a major mistake targeting Barron; I had a suspicion that Melania would go all mama bear on her fat ass.

Posted by: IC at December 01, 2016 11:18 PM (gcme+)

364 re 355: scratch a liberal, get an infected fingernail.

Posted by: Mallfly ver 2.0001 at December 01, 2016 11:18 PM (2JQBv)

365 I like Cerritos, too; very much. It's also not all white, Jay. Very middle class, professional black folks and Asians, probably more Asians now.


Fair enough, but my point was that most middle class white neighborhoods - including my own - fit the same description, and don't need or have an HOA.

So the quality of life there has less to do with the HOA than with the type of people of live there.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
****

Where my mom lives is without an HOA. Low crime, quiet, etc. I would buy a house in that neighborhood in a second.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 11:18 PM (hVdx9)

366 I know people who work full time, have all the benefits, and live off their credit cards. They'll lose all their money at the casino and have no gas money until their next paycheck. Or waste grocery money on things like pre-boiled eggs, and have no money to buy a candy bar in a vending machine. And all they do is complain about how hard the have it. Poor, poor full time employees with paid healthcare, paid vacations, predictable incomes and no estimated taxes.

/yes, I had to get rid of a lot of people in my life who were not understanding. I wish I could say I regret it, but I don't.


Posted by: shibumi




you don't mean those disgusting boiled pickeled eggs floating behind the dive bar in a dive town that look like something from alien do you?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 11:19 PM (cPsPa)

367 Whoa! I just realized something kind of interesting. The last Democrat to concede a Presidential election graciously, and accept the will of the electorate, the way Republicans always do, was Michael Dukakis.

That was 28 years ago.

Twenty-eight!
Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler


If i owned a lawn, you're standing on it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 01, 2016 11:19 PM (1G5R8)

368
I haven't seen people here this on edge at Christmas time since we had the AoS White vs Colored Christmas Lights War way back in 1995.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:19 PM (qWvcB)

369 358 BCochran, apologies. I was speaking methaphorically but definitely didn't take the time to make my point clearly. And I don't need any more enemies, nor would I *ever* encourage anyone to commit suicide.

I *do* get very sick of pessimistic attitudes, though, and I should know as I've been guilty of displaying them myself.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 11:17 PM (u8kLQ)


Fair enough all around. To clarify my point...I'm not in any way a fan of HOAs. They're a complete pain in the ass. My point was just very specific to the street thing and their ability to issue/enforce rules regarding them. In certain circumstances, they can in fact do that. That was my point, nothing more nothing less.

Done and done.

*fistbumps Moron*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 11:19 PM (89UPP)

370 They sound like the coworkers I mentioned. They constantly complain about being broke, but have the latest I-phone every time a new one comes out, they eat out for lunch daily, they have expensive cable packages, expensive headphones to listen to music on their phone, and a million apps.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 11:13 PM (hVdx9)

I've known plenty of people like this. They're utterly clueless about the connection between their spending habits and their cash position.

Posted by: Insomniac
****

And at least at my place of work, these same people either vote dem, or are "liberals" who don't vote. A rather common trait it seems.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 11:20 PM (hVdx9)

371 "For nothing can seem foul to those that win." -- Henry IV, Pt. 1 Act 5, Sc. 1

And everything is foul to the losers

Posted by: SMOD at December 01, 2016 11:20 PM (e8kgV)

372 I kinda get the idea motivating HOAs - that otherwise you'd have people doing untoward shit in your neighborhood, e.g., cars sitting on brake drums in the front yard, biker gangs, that sort of thing.

But if that's a possibility given the people who live in the neighborhood, I don't want to live there HOA or no.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 11:20 PM (SRKgf)

373 367 Whoa! I just realized something kind of interesting. The last Democrat to concede a Presidential election graciously, and accept the will of the electorate, the way Republicans always do, was Michael Dukakis.

That was 28 years ago.

Twenty-eight!
Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler

If i owned a lawn, you're standing on it.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 01, 2016 11:19 PM (1G5R



I was 7 years old.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 11:20 PM (89UPP)

374 Evening all.


Late to the thread, but Ill never live in an HOA again. Ever.

The most ruthless of rulers often come from the smallest of kingdoms.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 01, 2016 11:21 PM (JmjOe)

375 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 11:17 PM (SRKgf)

Well you know, that damned white trash will sneak in on ya with their fucking 18 wheelers and fixing their cars in their own gawt damned driveways!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:21 PM (lkEum)

376 Tammy, I know the Liberty Park area; I pass through it often. Lots of single-family homes, but I don't recall *ever* seeing a big condo complex there. It *is* close to Cerritos Auto Square, however.

And, my own city of Lakewood is considered, along with Allentown NJ, of being one of the very first "planned communities."

Cerritos is notable for taking the idea 13 years later in 1967 and going nuts with it; but master architect William Pereira literally took it into the stratosphere, when he mapped out the ENTIRE CITY of Cerritos, *including* UC Irvine, in 1960.

Irvine, in partnership with The Irvine Company, is *still* following, and implementing, Pereira's development plan.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 11:22 PM (u8kLQ)

377 374 Evening all.


Late to the thread, but Ill never live in an HOA again. Ever.

The most ruthless of rulers often come from the smallest of kingdoms.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 01, 2016 11:21 PM (JmjOe)

Condo associations are even worse from what I've heard.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2016 11:22 PM (0mRoj)

378 I haven't seen people here this on edge at Christmas time since we had the AoS White vs Colored Christmas Lights War way back in 1995.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:19 PM (qWvcB)




its coloured dumbass.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 11:22 PM (cPsPa)

379 >>>I was 7 years old.

Ugh, youth is wasted on the young

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2016 11:22 PM (voOPb)

380 Well you know, that damned white trash will sneak in on ya with their fucking 18 wheelers and fixing their cars in their own gawt damned driveways!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:21 PM (lkEum)



Not at these prices. Not unless they pack about 75 people into the house.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 11:23 PM (SRKgf)

381 327 Hey Misanthropic Humanitarian,

I fixed that video, but we should definitely ban Anon Y. Mous for demanding so much when all he has is a fvcking cardboard membership.

Cheap bastard.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
-----------------

While you've got the keys at hand, ciuld you please finally unlock cthulhu?

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:23 PM (aL/aJ)

382
Wrong, dumbass, it's African-American Christmas lights.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:23 PM (qWvcB)

383 Oops, let me fix that:

William Pereira took the idea into the stratosphere with his plans for *Irvine*, California. Not Cerritos, which was mapped out by another group of people.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 11:23 PM (u8kLQ)

384 Has anyone here ever gone to see the Brian Setzer Orchestra Christmas show he has been touring for years?

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 01, 2016 11:23 PM (M3DRt)

385 Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu, my family and I are throwing an Inauguration Party on 1-20. Once I see him sworn in I will get outrageously drunk. Until then I worry a ridiculous amount about what kind of shit obama , soros and billary will pull. I'' betting in a dem co of Penn they will find "extra" uncounted otes for Clinton-oopsie. Not tens of thousand but maybe 1000- absentee ballots of course. This will prompt them to go before a judge and say "See we need 100% hand count" where the real cache of a planted suspicious hack or something like it is discovered. I don't put shit past these people

Posted by: Manor maven at December 01, 2016 11:23 PM (AqZIp)

386 hey, what hapened to all the concern trolls? seems as if they do not care anymore.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 11:23 PM (cPsPa)

387 Excellent end of game management by Minnesota.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 01, 2016 11:23 PM (bS6uW)

388 311 Without an HOA, have fun with your neighbors on both sides having 18-wheelers parked on the street and beat-up boats and non-running cars in their driveways.
Posted by: Crusader at December 01, 2016 11:08 PM (OXPMi)

As long as they ain't blocking my driveway, I don't give a shit. Seriously. Fuck HOAs. Buncha gorram mini-fascists with delusions of grandeur.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 01, 2016 11:23 PM (n2teT)

389
btw, when does Hanukkah begin?

/off to googles!

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:23 PM (qWvcB)

390 Well you know, that damned white trash will sneak in on ya with their fucking 18 wheelers and fixing their cars in their own gawt damned driveways!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
****

I resemble one of those remarks.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 11:24 PM (hVdx9)

391 Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 11:19 PM (cPsPa)

There really are idiots who pay for boiled eggs at the grocery store. Quite a bit more they pay.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:24 PM (lkEum)

392 >> I read that some of those Saudi princes and other Middle Eastern bigwigs pay about $40K per night for yacht girls.


The real money is in the yacht goats.

Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2016 11:24 PM (MQZBa)

393 I was 7 years old.
Posted by: BCochran1981


I have two working shoulders.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 01, 2016 11:24 PM (1G5R8)

394 I haven't seen people here this on edge at Christmas time since we had the AoS White vs Colored Christmas Lights War way back in 1995.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:19 PM (qWvcB)




I was going to say I like my lights like I like my people but I could not decide which misinterpretation would be more wrong.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 11:24 PM (cPsPa)

395 Late to the thread, but Ill never live in an HOA again. Ever.

The most ruthless of rulers often come from the smallest of kingdoms.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 01, 2016 11:21 PM (JmjOe)



I once said I opposed liberal politics because they'd end up creating the world's largest HOA out of the country.

The problem is the same: concentrated power - even the little associated with an HOA - attracts the very people who most certainly should not have it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 11:24 PM (SRKgf)

396 375: Tammy! Or, boil deer skulls in their backyard. Damn, at first I thought I stumbled on some satanic holiday boogaloo.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 01, 2016 11:24 PM (KP5rU)

397 BCochran, fistbump back.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 11:24 PM (u8kLQ)

398 Long weekend ahead, the Christmas thing at work.

Love you crazies here, be well.

Posted by: Farmer at December 01, 2016 11:24 PM (o/90i)

399 so I am not saying it.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 11:24 PM (cPsPa)

400
Oh this is very nice!

Hanukkah begins this year the same time as Christmas, on December 24th.

Works out perfectly.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:25 PM (qWvcB)

401 >>when does Hanukkah begin?


I think it's christmas eve eve this year...but I may be off a day.

Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2016 11:25 PM (MQZBa)

402 HOAs within limits are a good thing. Overreaching HOAs are a real headache.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 01, 2016 11:25 PM (bS6uW)

403 I resemble one of those remarks.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 11:24 PM (hVdx9)

Oh honey, we've seen your picture, we know exactly what you resemble! And we liked it!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:25 PM (lkEum)

404 The best clause in our HOA covenants? The one that forbids "People of ill repute". Heh. I guess I fooled them.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2016 11:25 PM (ZO497)

405 Hannukkah begins Christmas Eve.

Damn Jews trying to get in on the real holiday celebration!

Posted by: buzzion at December 01, 2016 11:25 PM (z/Ubi)

406 I have two working shoulders.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 01, 2016 11:24 PM (1G5R



In a few more months, theoretically, so will I.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 11:25 PM (89UPP)

407 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 11:20 PM (SRKgf)

Most neighborhoods have no need for HOAs because they were created organically over years, and not built in a matter of months by a developer.

So the residents have self selected, and have no need of a governing authority other than the municipality.

There is a bell curve reference here but I am on my phone and have had a few....so I will shit up.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2016 11:25 PM (42Mgr)

408 i remember when Cerritos was still dairy farms.

yeah, i'm old...

GTFO my lawn.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 01, 2016 11:25 PM (84In0)

409 I was going to say I like my lights like I like my people but I could not decide which misinterpretation would be more wrong.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 11:24 PM (cPsPa)

Strung up on a tree?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2016 11:25 PM (0mRoj)

410 by the way, it's currently 45 in Ho-boken.

Posted by: Mallfly ver 2.0001 at December 01, 2016 11:25 PM (2JQBv)

411 Farmer, check your email!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:25 PM (lkEum)

412
Two minutes ago Coach Garrett was all smiles on the sideline.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:26 PM (qWvcB)

413 There really are idiots who pay for boiled eggs at the grocery store. Quite a bit more they pay.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:24 PM (lkEum)




well yuck, I would have to boil them again to get them clean enough to eat.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 11:26 PM (cPsPa)

414 its coloured dumbass.


Oh no you didn't.

Posted by: eleven at December 01, 2016 11:26 PM (qUNWi)

415 What the fuck was that by Bradford?

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 01, 2016 11:26 PM (bS6uW)

416 402 HOAs within limits are a good thing. Overreaching HOAs are a real headache.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 01, 2016 11:25 PM (bS6uW)


Problem is, one seems to invariably lead to the other.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 11:26 PM (89UPP)

417
Bradford choked.

Coach Garett is happy again.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:26 PM (qWvcB)

418 Most neighborhoods have no need for HOAs because they were created organically over years, and not built in a matter of months by a developer.

So the residents have self selected, and have no need of a governing authority other than the municipality.

There is a bell curve reference here but I am on my phone and have had a few....so I will shit up.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2016 11:25 PM (42Mgr)



Good point.

Carry on shitting up. Are you in zero G?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 11:27 PM (SRKgf)

419 Strung up on a tree?
Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2016 11:25 PM (0mRoj)




turned on

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 11:27 PM (cPsPa)

420 by the way, it's currently 45 in Ho-boken.


Is that Holland?

Posted by: eleven at December 01, 2016 11:27 PM (qUNWi)

421 Posted by: redc1c4 at December 01, 2016 11:25 PM (84In0)

Oh, I remember that, too...I knew all the Dutch families that owned them! They all moved to Chino and Norco, then to like Idaho or some such place.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:27 PM (lkEum)

422 There is a bell curve reference here but I am on my phone and have had a few....so I will shit up.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2016 11:25 PM (42Mgr)



#NailedIt

Posted by: BCochran1981 - GOLD--BERG! GOLD--BERG! at December 01, 2016 11:27 PM (89UPP)

423 Strung up on a tree?
Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2016 11:25 PM (0mRoj)




flashing

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 11:27 PM (cPsPa)

424 Should have been a penalty

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 01, 2016 11:27 PM (bS6uW)

425 redc1c4, yup. Cerritos was Dairy Valley until it changed its name in 1967.

Funny they chose the name Cerritos, as there was (and is) already a city in northern California by the name of El Cerrito. It's where the members of Creedence Clearwater Revival are from.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 11:27 PM (u8kLQ)

426
There is a bell curve reference here but I am on my phone and have had a few....so I will shit up.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


Anti gravity poop.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 01, 2016 11:27 PM (IqV8l)

427 402 HOAs within limits are a good thing. Overreaching HOAs are a real headache.
Posted by: Blacksheep at December 01, 2016 11:25 PM (bS6uW)

See, the thing is, they always start out with nothing but good intent, but they always end up like that episode of the X-Files with the garbage monster what smooshes people for having a mobile basketball hoop at the end of their driveway.

HOA you die now! Pew pew pew!

Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 01, 2016 11:27 PM (n2teT)

428 i remember when Cerritos was still dairy farms.

yeah, i'm old...

GTFO my lawn.
Posted by: red
----------

Vic remembers Atlanta before it was burned.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2016 11:28 PM (ZO497)

429 327 Hey Misanthropic Humanitarian,

I fixed that video, but we should definitely ban Anon Y. Mous for demanding so much when all he has is a fvcking cardboard membership.

Cheap bastard.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2016 11:10 PM (42Mgr)

++++

I painted it with a lovely platinum. It's beautiful. That should count for something.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 01, 2016 11:28 PM (R+30W)

430 I have been working on my vehicle over at my mom's and some people stare at me like I'm an alien as they drive by. Some of the looks seem positive, but others have a "WTF" look on their faces.
Sorry, not all of us are helpless when it comes to fixing vehicles and I don't believe in being in debt just to have a "new car".

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 11:28 PM (hVdx9)

431 Without an HOA, have fun with your neighbors on both sides having 18-wheelers parked on the street and beat-up boats and non-running cars in their driveways.

Posted by: Crusader at December 01, 2016 11:08 PM (OXPMi)


Hey! It still has valid tags.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 01, 2016 11:28 PM (Ki0nU)

432 Ballgame.

Nice false start at home douchebag.

Posted by: eleven at December 01, 2016 11:28 PM (qUNWi)

433 There is a bell curve reference here but I am on my phone and have had a few....so I will shit up.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2016 11:25 PM (42Mgr)


Good point.

Carry on shitting up. Are you in zero G?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


Bodysuits can be too tight, you know.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 01, 2016 11:28 PM (1G5R8)

434 Ugly shit right there. Vikings played well, Cowboys lucked out.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 01, 2016 11:28 PM (bS6uW)

435 Oh no you didn't.
Posted by: eleven at December 01, 2016 11:26 PM (qUNWi)




oh yes I did, it is not a grey area

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 11:28 PM (cPsPa)

436 >>Vic remembers Atlanta before it was burned.


By the KT Event.

Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2016 11:29 PM (MQZBa)

437 Dumbasses.


You doint boil dear heads.

You hang em in the tree where the beetles and sun canvget to working on it.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 01, 2016 11:29 PM (JmjOe)

438 Well you know, that damned white trash will sneak in on ya with their fucking 18 wheelers and fixing their cars in their own gawt damned driveways!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:21 PM (lkEum

====

In my HOA neighborhood near ATL, the HOA made an exception for 2 insanely wealthy freaks who would not travel by air and had Rock Star level tour buses.

I couldn't park a 29' boat in my driveway, but these dickheads could have 2 50' buses.

Yeah, no hypocrisy there at all.

Posted by: Flyboy at December 01, 2016 11:29 PM (L+dg+)

439 Skipped to this point, so maybe answered above: any link for that WWII photo?


Just started a second Battle of the Bulge book, and it looks like it will be good (Steel and Ice), after being very disappointed with Antony Beevor's book on the subject.


Anyway, one thing in the Beevor book was a reference to all-black "tank destroyer" units in the Ardennes fighting. There were two kinds of such units - those with armored vehicles with mounted guns, and those with towed guns. Not sure which kind the black units were, but hoping the current book will have more detail.


More blacks in combat in WWII than I generally assumed in the past - aside from the famous case of the Tuskegee Fliers. USMC anti-aircraft units in the Pacific. And the ammo ships (famous for black personnel due to the Pittsburg, CA incident) also saw blacks in combat.


I spoke with a retired black reverend the day before the WWII Memorial was commissioned in DC, in 2004, while hanging out at the site (precisely to meet guys like him). He'd run ammo to shore at Iwo Jima, from an ammo ship - they started coming back with bodies of Marines, took them right to the morgue or hospital ships.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 01, 2016 11:29 PM (QDnY+)

440 Deer heads.


Sheeeesh

Posted by: fixerupper at December 01, 2016 11:29 PM (JmjOe)

441 Represented HOA's out here in AZ. There's just something about a set of CCRs that turn otherwise decent humans into annoying fucksticks.

Posted by: Smitty27 at December 01, 2016 11:29 PM (g9d8D)

442 There is a bell curve reference here but I am on my phone and have had a few....so I will shit up.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
****

Sign in men's bathroom: "Please don't pee on the floor"
Scrawled below the sign: "Be a hero and sh*t on the ceiling"

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 11:29 PM (hVdx9)

443 I'll tell you one thing. I'll take white trash over pretentious ladder climbing yuppie types any day. The white trash don't give a shit what you do, and I return the favor.

I could tell stories. There was a fellow in these parts who was a millionaire many times over. He made his money in the digging business, septic tanks. He used to say he loved the smell of shit. That was money to him. People didn't want to smell it and deal with it, so they paid him.

He had some snooty types move in next to his place, and they got snooty with him about the junk he kept around. His farm equipment, bulldozers and all that.

The funny thing wast they were in debt up their eyeballs, and he could've bought and sold them many times over. The yuppies didn't realize it until someone told them. They shut up once they knew just how rich he was. It was funny.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 01, 2016 11:30 PM (DW+jj)

444 Ugly shit right there. Vikings played well, Cowboys lucked out.
Posted by: Blacksheep at December 01, 2016 11:28 PM (bS6uW)




well, it is the viqueens, what did you expect?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 11:30 PM (cPsPa)

445 Okay, from what I am hearing, fourth hand, the stupid Cowboys managed to win, and my Vikings did the thing they seem to do at crucial times.

Good thing I did not bother to watch...

not that I could. Ain't got cable.

Still, my point is valid...

Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 01, 2016 11:30 PM (n2teT)

446 HOAs may be okay in condo situations, where you're connected to each other, and the paint colors need to be uniform, but they ain't no way I'd live in an actual neighborhood with HOAs.

That seems to be the trend, though.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:30 PM (lkEum)

447 He's TOO concilatory to a man he has to know is going to rip apart his vaunted legacy. Call me tin hat worthy, but I think they are being all nicey nicey now about this recount deal because they already know the fix might actually be in.

Posted by: Manor maven at December 01, 2016 11:09 PM (AqZIp)


I'm hoping he is being conciliatory because he's been faxed copies of the evidence.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 01, 2016 11:31 PM (Ki0nU)

448 Most hoa restrictions are common sense, it is when things have to be approved by a committee (when the committee is unreasonable) or are overly vague that cause problems

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 01, 2016 11:31 PM (M3DRt)

449 >>>>I painted it with a lovely platinum. It's beautiful. That should count for something.

We don't accept no stinking reasonable facsimile

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2016 11:32 PM (voOPb)

450 #431: And your HOA still won't do anything about those eight illegal aliens who bought a house together on your block pissing in their front yard.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 01, 2016 11:32 PM (0OG8D)

451 Anti-gravity poop is the absolute worst kind.

Posted by: eleven at December 01, 2016 11:32 PM (qUNWi)

452 Yeah, no hypocrisy there at all.

Posted by: Flyboy at December 01, 2016 11:29 PM (L+dg+)


Yep.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:32 PM (lkEum)

453 obama is going to have his staff remove all the "jr" keys from the keyboards.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 11:32 PM (cPsPa)

454 If the Vikings gave the Cowboys that much trouble, the Cowboys must not be that good.

Posted by: davidt at December 01, 2016 11:32 PM (XoldI)

455 386 hey, what hapened to all the concern trolls? seems as if they do not care anymore.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 11:23 PM (cPsPa)


We've regularly have had strangers with a polite persistent plea to think more kindly on Mitt Romney. Which isn't horrible, but does seem artificial.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 01, 2016 11:32 PM (VdICR)

456 Never had to deal with an HOA but a few years back the city wanted to know if we would like our 120 year old home to be placed on the "historic" registry for our town. We said "Oh hell no." Just what we need, the city telling me what color I can paint my house and even worse foolishness.

Posted by: cfomahm at December 01, 2016 11:33 PM (RfzVr)

457 By the KT Event.


heh

Posted by: eleven at December 01, 2016 11:33 PM (qUNWi)

458 386 hey, what hapened to all the concern trolls? seems as if they do not care anymore.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 11:23 PM (cPsPa)

We've regularly have had strangers with a polite persistent plea to think more kindly on Mitt Romney. Which isn't horrible, but does seem artificial.

Posted by: BourbonChicken
****

I think that Mitt can kindly f*** off and eat sh*t.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 11:33 PM (hVdx9)

459 454 If the Vikings gave the Cowboys that much trouble, the Cowboys must not be that good.
Posted by: davidt at December 01, 2016 11:32 PM (XoldI)

Right?!

Wait, uh... *cough*

Erm....

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Vikings fan at December 01, 2016 11:34 PM (n2teT)

460 re 420: you're thinking of Ho-Ho-Kus.
Where they make Ho-Ho-Stess Ho-Hos.

hey, I'm almost witty when I'm sober. Maybe sort of half-witty.

Posted by: Mallfly ver 2.0001 at December 01, 2016 11:34 PM (2JQBv)

461 Are you in zero G?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 11:27 PM (SRKgf)

Everybody is a fvcking comedian.

Self selection is, of course, prima facie evidence of genocidal racism.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2016 11:35 PM (42Mgr)

462 Anti-gravity poop is the absolute worst kind.

Posted by: eleven
****

If you aren't strapped in, would you fly across the shuttle/space station?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 11:35 PM (hVdx9)

463
11-1 Cowboys

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:35 PM (qWvcB)

464 Love Hostess Ho-Hos and Sno Balls.

But, had to give 'em up 'cuz I don't wanna die.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 11:35 PM (u8kLQ)

465 119 Why would an 86 year old man with health issues go to Antarctica?
Posted by: Roy at December 01, 2016 10:28 PM (fWLrt)


Because he hadn't been there before.

How cool is that? "I've been to the Moon, but I still have to cross Antarctica off my bucket list."

Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at December 01, 2016 11:35 PM (sdi6R)

466 Hi, horde. I was enjoying watching Milo at WVA U. tonight. Some SJW asshats pulled the fire alarm on him and he kept on talking through it.

It occurred to me, looking at that map, that you can drive from sea to shining sea without ever once driving though a county that voted for Hillary. that includes coastal counties in Cali, Oregon and Washington state.

To go from blue spot to blue spot, you'd need an airplane.

Lefties - you're surrounded!

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at December 01, 2016 11:36 PM (P8951)

467 ONE of my true HOA stories.

Ive never come sooooo close to punching out a Senior Citizen over whether I was REQUIRED to edge everytime I mowed, rather than every other time.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 01, 2016 11:36 PM (JmjOe)

468 cfomahm and Cannibal Bob, LOL.

"Replacing your toilet? That's fine, but it's gotta be authentic to the models available in 1910..."

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 11:36 PM (u8kLQ)

469 Love Hostess Ho-Hos and Sno Balls.

But, had to give 'em up 'cuz I don't wanna die.

Posted by: qdpsteve
****

You lost your balls and your Ho's? Damn, G.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 11:36 PM (hVdx9)

470 If you aren't strapped in, would you fly across the shuttle/space station?
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale


Depends. What volume ... in Courics?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 01, 2016 11:36 PM (1G5R8)

471 *shakes head*

Come on guys, its one thing to be ok with living in an addition without an HOA.

Its *re-sale* where the issues appear. YOU didn't mind the neighbors fence that is in such disrepair that its no longer really a fence, the car in their driveway with 2 flat tires, and the awkward and structurally unsound shed in their backyard. But EVERY single buyer who tours your suddenly-for-sale home notices all of it.

Posted by: Crusader at December 01, 2016 11:36 PM (OXPMi)

472 Posted by: Mallfly ver 2.0001 at December 01, 2016 11:34 PM (2JQBv)

I live in the next town over from HoHoKus.

And there are some fine looking soccer moms there....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2016 11:36 PM (42Mgr)

473 if they turn our neighborhood in a hoa, i will abandon the house and make it into an anaconda breeding ground. step on my lawn now idjits.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 01, 2016 11:36 PM (KP5rU)

474 455 386 hey, what hapened to all the concern trolls? seems as if they do not care anymore.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 11:23 PM (cPsPa)

Well we got Bill Wynn in the daywalker threads who wanders in, sniffs and makes passive aggressive comments, then leaves.

We think he might be one who is pooping in Ace's rich-guy slippers.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Vikings fan at December 01, 2016 11:37 PM (n2teT)

475 Tilikum, it ain't easy out here for a fat boy

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2016 11:37 PM (u8kLQ)

476 My had neighborhood requires you to keep the draw sash pulley windows, ridiculous

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 01, 2016 11:38 PM (M3DRt)

477 Liberals are now telling us that we should totally be following the example of... George W. Bush.

Oh, yeah! There was a true statesman and a President for everyone, and...

Yeah. They forget how they were calling him a Nazi and a neo-Hitler for eight years. Just like they always do, when we elect a new President from the Republican party.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 01, 2016 11:38 PM (0OG8D)

478 "Most HOA restrictions are common sense." Um, no. Fines for a trash can sitting out 13 hours rather than 12 hours after pickup b/c the owner is stuck in traffic is not common sense. Fines for a palm tree other than perfectly manicured is not common sense. Fines for an American flag in front of a home is not common sense. Most restrictive covenants are based on a lack of common sense b/c they depend on idiots to enforce them at will.

Posted by: Smitty27 at December 01, 2016 11:38 PM (g9d8D)

479 Trump grabbed that pussy Romney.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 01, 2016 11:38 PM (VdICR)

480 It occurred to me, looking at that map, that you can drive from sea to shining sea without ever once driving though a county that voted for Hillary.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at December 01, 2016 11:36 PM (P8951)


My panties haven't been dry since Nov 8th, and now you point this out!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:38 PM (lkEum)

481
looks like a mild start to December here in Mass

40's for the week, no snow

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:38 PM (qWvcB)

482 436 >>Vic remembers Atlanta before it was burned. "

He asked Scarlett O'Hara to dance. Bitch turned him down.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at December 01, 2016 11:38 PM (P8951)

483 If you aren't strapped in, would you fly across the shuttle/space station?
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale

Depends. What volume ... in Courics?

Posted by: weft cut-loop
****

We may have to use Gores for measurement.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 11:38 PM (hVdx9)

484 465 119 Why would an 86 year old man with health issues go to Antarctica?
Posted by: Roy at December 01, 2016 10:28 PM (fWLrt)

Because he's Buzz Fucking Aldrin.

that should be enough explanation.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Vikings fan at December 01, 2016 11:39 PM (n2teT)

485 Allahpundit has cooled his #NeverTrump butt-hurt down at HotGas.

I thought he might be coming to his senses. Then I clicked on his twitter-feed for the very first time.

My God. He's a Mainstream Media throne-sniffer. His twitter-feed is indistinguishable from your average acela corridor "journalist". This guy is as unhinged on Trump as any die-hard Hillarybot.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 01, 2016 11:39 PM (S2VsH)

486 really lame cartoon. Really lame.

Posted by: jbspry at December 01, 2016 11:39 PM (4kpbt)

487 My panties haven't been dry since Nov 8th, and now you point this out!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:38 PM (lkEum)

LOL! Isn't it wonderful!

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at December 01, 2016 11:40 PM (P8951)

488 I did storm damagecrepairs to a house on a historic registry. Ill never do another.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 01, 2016 11:40 PM (JmjOe)

489 My panties haven't been dry since Nov 8th, and now you point this out!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:38 PM (lkEum)

======

You do have a way with words, Ma'am.

Posted by: Flyboy at December 01, 2016 11:40 PM (L+dg+)

490 Tilikum, it ain't easy out here for a fat boy

Posted by: qdpsteve
****

Word.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 11:40 PM (hVdx9)

491 175 One he might want to pass on... goo.gl/Y7uNCR

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at December 01, 2016 11:40 PM (Kucy5)

492 >>Posted by: Smitty27 at December 01, 2016 11:38 PM (g9d8D)


You know who sits on the HOA Board-Right?
Who is writing the fines - Right?

Pillowcase, Gym Sock and a Bar of Soap applied linerally at random times of night and in random places will make each and every one of them a lot more tractable.

Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2016 11:41 PM (MQZBa)

493
Allahpundit is another fraud.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:41 PM (qWvcB)

494 Posted by: Flyboy at December 01, 2016 11:40 PM (L+dg+)



Have you got your work done so you can pay attention to your lovely bride?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:41 PM (lkEum)

495 My panties haven't been dry since Nov 8th, and now you point this out!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:38 PM (lkEum)



you could drown a toddler

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 11:41 PM (cPsPa)

496 There's a gem in one of the Apollo mission transcripts. I want to say it was Apollo 16, but I'm not sure.

Anyway, one of the three noticed something floating in the capsule. It was a turd. Who's turd is that, he asked aloud. All three denied it was theirs. One even said he knew what his looked like, and darn it, it wasn't his, but one of you other two jokers.

Proper zero-g toilet facilities is the bane of spaceflight. The Apollo system was basically plastic baggies for the solid waste. One of them had a little accident getting it in the plastic baggie.

So, floating turds. Shit happens in space.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 01, 2016 11:41 PM (DW+jj)

497 hey, what hapened to all the concern trolls? seems as if they do not care anymore.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 11:23 PM (cPsPa)


Well, you see, it's like Mooch said . . . Obama made them care.

Trump not so much.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 01, 2016 11:41 PM (Ki0nU)

498 489 My panties haven't been dry since Nov 8th, and now you point this out!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
****

I understand your pain.

Posted by: Guy Who Can't Stop Splooging at December 01, 2016 11:42 PM (hVdx9)

499 Allah is a good guy.

Sooth, you

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 01, 2016 11:42 PM (bS6uW)

500 >>Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:38 PM (qWvcB)


It's coming.

Winter will set in for good out here in 3 days...you will get it in 6-8.

Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2016 11:42 PM (MQZBa)

501
guess what our local news lead off with tonight?

Gronk is out for the season!

Pathetic.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:42 PM (qWvcB)

502 Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 01, 2016 11:36 PM (KP5

I've been to your neighborhood.
You don't have anything to worry about

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2016 11:42 PM (voOPb)

503 Sooth, you're right about Dallas. 11-1 is 11-1.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 01, 2016 11:43 PM (bS6uW)

504 Looking at the election map, I always get so fucking pissed at Teton County, Wyoming. the one blemish in the otherwise pristine visage that is Wyoming. Even Albany County, where UW squats, swung somewhat Trumply. Hell, even Fremont County, home of the Wind River Reservation, looks to have gone Trump.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Vikings fan at December 01, 2016 11:43 PM (n2teT)

505 Re the picture.

Tech 5 William E Thomas and Pfc Joseph Jackson.

Number 21 on the list.

https://www.archives.gov/research/african-americans/ww2-pictures

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 01, 2016 11:43 PM (d76uN)

506 >>My panties haven't been dry since Nov 8th, and now you point this out!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:38 PM (lkEum)


You could consign those in Japan, you know.

Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2016 11:43 PM (MQZBa)

507 488 I did storm damagecrepairs to a house on a historic registry. Ill never do another.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 01, 2016 11:40 PM (JmjOe)



Britain has that historic registry business big time. If Richard III took a shit someplace, it's now on a historic registry that prohibits anyone from flushing it, apparently because it's now a historic turd.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 11:43 PM (SRKgf)

508 Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 11:41 PM (cPsPa)

Possibly two with the Mattis confirmation.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:43 PM (lkEum)

509
Allah is a good guy.

Yeah, he's a peach.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:43 PM (qWvcB)

510 #480: Pics or it didn't happen, Tammy.

Sorry; I don't actually believe that or anything; I just had to say something on behalf of all the single Morons.

You know how it is.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 01, 2016 11:43 PM (0OG8D)

511 There's a gem in one of the Apollo mission transcripts. I want to say it was Apollo 16, but I'm not sure.

Anyway, one of the three noticed something floating in the capsule. It was a turd. Who's turd is that, he asked aloud. All three denied it was theirs. One even said he knew what his looked like, and darn it, it wasn't his, but one of you other two jokers.

Proper zero-g toilet facilities is the bane of spaceflight. The Apollo system was basically plastic baggies for the solid waste. One of them had a little accident getting it in the plastic baggie.

So, floating turds. Shit happens in space.


Posted by: publius
****

No one can hear you sh*t in space?

Posted by: Guy Who Can't Stop Splooging at December 01, 2016 11:43 PM (hVdx9)

512 Allah is a good guy.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 01, 2016 11:42 PM

Despite all evidence to the contrary, apparently.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 01, 2016 11:43 PM (S2VsH)

513 91 degrees here. Come back winter, all is forgiven.

Posted by: otho at December 01, 2016 11:44 PM (lmIoG)

514 Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2016 11:43 PM (MQZBa)


LOL!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:44 PM (lkEum)

515 Heh. Hillary's paranoia endures:

http://www.propornot.com/p/home.html?m=1

Remember the way we were told WE were the paranoid conspiracy theory freaks?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 01, 2016 11:44 PM (c6C3U)

516 478, Firm I worked for drafted cons, conditions, and restrictions had no provision that intense. It was more old school satellite dishes in front yard, animal husbandry, abandoned vehicles on common streets, etc

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 01, 2016 11:44 PM (M3DRt)

517 No one can hear you sh*t in space?

Posted by: Guy Who Can't Stop Splooging at December 01, 2016 11:43 PM (hVdx9)



But they can hear you rip one, so ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 01, 2016 11:45 PM (SRKgf)

518 I think the best teams in each conference at the moment are Seattle and Oakland, with the traditional wisdom candidates being Dallas and New England.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 01, 2016 11:45 PM (bS6uW)

519 >>No one can hear you sh*t in space?


Def-Corn 1

Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2016 11:45 PM (MQZBa)

520 You know how it is.
Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 01, 2016 11:43 PM (0OG8D)

I DO know how it is, and God bless everyone of ya!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:45 PM (lkEum)

521
Patriots lost Gronk!

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:46 PM (qWvcB)

522 so regarding damp panties




http://tinyurl.com/gtk77db

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 01, 2016 11:46 PM (cPsPa)

523 >>Patriots lost Gronk!


Cutler is out, too.

Has the same hymen injury as BC.

Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2016 11:46 PM (MQZBa)

524 There wolf

https://youtu.be/VX0b3_8ZWzE

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 01, 2016 11:46 PM (+477D)

525 502: MH, got that right. We are mostly all redneck live and let live deplorables.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 01, 2016 11:47 PM (KP5rU)

526 #515: "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy".

That's all you really need to know, as far as Hillary and paranoia go as a connected unit.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 01, 2016 11:47 PM (0OG8D)

527 515- proof they are FOS

"Obtain news from actual reporters, who report to an editor and are professionally accountable for mistakes. We suggest NPR, the BBC, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post, Buzzfeed News, VICE, etc..."

Posted by: Guy Who Can't Stop Splooging at December 01, 2016 11:48 PM (hVdx9)

528
that's funny because you're implying BC and Cutler have female sex organs!

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:48 PM (qWvcB)

529 481
looks like a mild start to December here in Mass

40's for the week, no snow
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:38 PM (qWvcB)


Give it 7-10 days. Joe Bastardi's site has this shaping up as a "December to Remember."

I'm kind of thinking Bastardi may be a Moron.

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT at December 01, 2016 11:48 PM (nvMvs)

530 Labrum / Hymen

Potato / Yam

Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2016 11:48 PM (MQZBa)

531 Tim in Illinois - thanks!


Easter was on April 1 in 1945, so this must be last week of March or so. Which matches the clothing and what you can make out of the background landscape.


I've always loved "bomb art", can't recall seeing "artillery shell art" like this before.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 01, 2016 11:48 PM (QDnY+)

532 Now, just imagine explosive diarrhea in zero g. I get excited fantasizing about going into space. Then I think about stuff like that, and decide just to stay in this nice 1g environment. Gravity is a must-have for the bodily functions.

Seriously, NASA has spent I don't know how much trying to get a decent space toilet. Hell, I don't know what the latest tech is, but it gets expensive. With the womyns in space, they had to make modifications. You know women and their peeing. They had to rig something better for that.

I wonder if they still bitch about the seat being up on the zero-g sucker?

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 01, 2016 11:49 PM (DW+jj)

533 Why you gotta step on BEN's toes, Soothie?

Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2016 11:49 PM (MQZBa)

534 #520: You're awesome, Tammy.

Everyone around here knows it, but someone had to say it first, and I volunteer myself as tribute.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 01, 2016 11:49 PM (0OG8D)

535 Have you got your work done so you can pay attention to your lovely bride?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:41 PM (lkEum)

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I do, which is unusual this early.

The problem I am facing is that I am now being recruited for the biggest job I have ever had. Just got that message today.

It would be a job where if you researched the management of a company that makes many of the TVs y'all own as an investor, my name would come up.

This is absolute first world problem stuff, but worried/concerned (shit, I hate that word) about the effect on Anne Marie.

Need to work through this weekend before responding, I guess.

Posted by: Flyboy at December 01, 2016 11:49 PM (L+dg+)

536 Evenin Horde of Vernaculartacular......

You spoil us Mis H......Excellent ONT......
Thank You.


If Hebdos staff had the 2ND......would they have quit?
Or just relocated to Texas or West By God.......

Thank GOD for that electoral map.......Family, God, Freedom(guaranteed by the 2nd) still means something almost everywhere. Where it doesn't.......fuck em.

Gonna peruse the thread......

Posted by: Hillbillyking at December 01, 2016 11:49 PM (NvweJ)

537 I cant find the actual unit these Soldiers were assigned to. Several Regiments were formed of segregated Troops.

I refuse to identify Brothers in Arms by any kind of skin color.

13B40 when I got out. I fired several of those exact same shells in more than one place.

155mm HEC with a pd fuse.

Boom!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 01, 2016 11:51 PM (d76uN)

538 I'm kind of thinking Bastardi may be a Moron.
Posted by: Michael the TEXIT at December 01, 2016 11:48 PM (nvMvs)

I know Limbaugh thinks the world of this guy. Perhaps because he seems to know what he's talking about, and is less likely to tie himself to a tree during a tropical storm. You know, real meteorology.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Vikings fan at December 01, 2016 11:51 PM (n2teT)

539 Who the hell cares if Bubba has a ginormous old-school satellite dish, though? Or raises chickens or goats?

lived in the ghetto for awhile (Lynwood CA, right on the border of Compton) and my Mexican neighbors had goats and chicken and rabbit hutches, too. Didn't bother me one iota.

White guy around the corner had a gazillion gigantic ham radio type antennas and cars parked everywhere that had probably not been started since before I was born... I had zero fucks to give.

Of course, I am as redneck as they come.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:52 PM (lkEum)

540 515. Yep. They cop to having EUkropians in their little org. Name-checked them in their laundry-list of 'concerned' but anonymous Americans.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 01, 2016 11:52 PM (c6C3U)

541 Continued from #534: I don't mean first ever, necessarily; I think I'm just the first to say it tonight.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 01, 2016 11:52 PM (0OG8D)

542 My guess is that Hebdo either thought they would be protected after the fire bombing or that lightning doesn't strike twice. They were wrong.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 11:52 PM (hVdx9)

543 i hope you are right garrett.

(about winter coming)

Posted by: concrete girl at December 01, 2016 11:53 PM (cV1ki)

544 Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 01, 2016 11:49 PM (0OG8D)

Mine should be the tribute. You all are the best.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:54 PM (lkEum)

545 539: Tammy, that's all part of your charm. I feel the same.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 01, 2016 11:54 PM (KP5rU)

546 I think Roger Waters knew Trump would win. He had a Trump pig in early October

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 01, 2016 11:54 PM (M3DRt)

547 Tim - so, a red-leg you are, huh?


One thing noted in the Beevor/Ardennes book was the use of "posit" proximity fuses that would detonate shells in the air close to the target - book claimed this was devastating for German infantry. And that the fuses, which were new, never used in combat, were a big secret and the order was never given to use them (risking compromise of the secret via duds).


But I kind of get the impression the guys fighting desperately in the cold in December '44 in the face of a huge surprise offensive weren't TOO focused on details like authorization to use the new fuses ....

Posted by: rhomboid at December 01, 2016 11:55 PM (QDnY+)

548
Sickening.

Kellyanne Comway was invited to Harvard today along with a clinton campaign chief to discuss the election.

The clinton woman said awful things to Kellyanne.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:55 PM (qWvcB)

549 Posted by: rhomboid at December 01, 2016 11:48 PM (QDnY+)

Not a problem. I still want to find the unit they were with but coming up with nothing.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 01, 2016 11:55 PM (d76uN)

550 There was a biased report about an evil selfish murderous bitch that took her kids out of school early and some time later shot her two kids and took the self inflicted tax payer relief shot. It was the guns fault and the lack of a waiting period here in CO. An inanimate tool is not responsible for any shooting good or bad. Why can't people see this. Murderers murder people cowards kill them-self after. Fuck the world sucks sometimes.

Posted by: USNtakim at December 01, 2016 11:55 PM (hMqvx)

551 Trump's speech was great! It's going to be weird to see a president who loves his country after 8 years of Obama.

Posted by: Carlos danger at December 01, 2016 11:55 PM (jxw6R)

552 You know you have victory when it is an accompanied tour.


/future Mattis quotes

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 01, 2016 11:56 PM (P/kVC)

553 Usually, in an el Nino year...

btw - that's Spanish for 'The Nino'...

once the storms start rolling into the Pacific Northwest from the Gulf of Alaska - it's on.

Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2016 11:56 PM (MQZBa)

554 Time for this whale to fly the coop. Goodnight hordlings and try to keep the biting to a minimum.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 01, 2016 11:56 PM (hVdx9)

555
you ran a white supremacist campaign

You can't reason with these people.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:56 PM (qWvcB)

556 Oh, I had a little tornado pass right by overhead, and I didn't even know it. Good thing I guess, because I would've shit myself had I known it.

My cousin is a retired meteorologist. He used to run the local NWS station, until they expanded and had to have a Ph.D. in charge. My cousin still ran it, he was just under the Ph.D. who just basically sat up there and Ph.D'd. Anyway, Cuz retired.

He sent me an email later last night telling me all about the tornado. They classified it as an EF-1. Little sucker. It did some damage closer in town and over on the west side. It came my way, but luckily picked back up and skipped over us.

There was some severe wind and driving rain. The power was flickering badly before it even got here, and that little EF-1 explains that.

It sat back down east of here, then picked up again for a while, and set back down one more time before it was through.

And I was blissfully unaware of almost have a little tornado rip through here.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 01, 2016 11:56 PM (DW+jj)

557 Congrats, Flyboy! Whatever you decide.


If things don't develop positively on this end I might be asking you if you need help at any Central American bars ......

Posted by: rhomboid at December 01, 2016 11:57 PM (QDnY+)

558 I think Roger Waters knew Trump would win. He had a Trump pig in early October

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 01, 2016 11:54 PM

Fuck that guy. His two "anti-War" musical contributions were an entire anti-Falklands War album, and a double LP about how wrong it was for the King to send his Daddy to die in WWII.

He will die where he lived: On the wrong side of history.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 01, 2016 11:57 PM (S2VsH)

559 flyboy, she married you for better or for worse. She knew you were a hard-ass worker when she did so.

But think carefully. Thor took a job in 2013 that has about ruined what we had.

Okay, I'm being overly dramatic, but he works almost all of the time and even though he's mostly at home now, it's still awful.

He's ahead of schedule and looking at less than a year to go, but things have changed. Probably get better again, but some days I wonder.

On the other hand, y'all are just starting out, so you have a different situation.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:58 PM (lkEum)

560
hey, I'm almost witty when I'm sober. Maybe sort of half-witty.
Posted by: Mallfly ver 2.0001 at December 01, 2016 11:34 PM (2JQBv)


Somebody called? What?

I was just resting my eyes.

Posted by: Halfwise at December 01, 2016 11:59 PM (rB/gm)

561 I wonder if they still bitch about the seat being up on the zero-g sucker?

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 01, 2016 11:49 PM (DW+jj)


GF came in one night and said, "you know, you left the seat up and I almost fell in"
I thought about that for a minute and then said, "OK. I'll leave the seat down from now on and pee on it instead."

dead silence as we lay there in the dark

I said, "win-win, right?"

At this point I started giggling uncontrollably.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2016 12:00 AM (Ki0nU)

562 Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 01, 2016 11:54 PM (KP5rU)


*blushes*

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 02, 2016 12:00 AM (lkEum)

563 Hey concrete girl! How are you?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 02, 2016 12:00 AM (lkEum)

564 Last Saturday night my b.i.l. through a family party for his recently married son. After the dinner, off to a dive bar that was a few steps below the boars nest of dukes of hazzard fame. Your feet stuck to the floor. The band was great, drinks for the people drinking were super cheap. I thought I died and went to heaven. I was the designated driver. I laughed my ass off.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 02, 2016 12:00 AM (KP5rU)

565 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 01, 2016 11:30 PM (DW+jj)
Most of the millionaires I know are white trash rich people. The ones that aren't white trash types are LA transplants.
They haven't figured out that the old guy in the 25 year old truck and coveralls is very wealthy.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 02, 2016 12:01 AM (Q5Ymk)

566 Posted by: Soothsayer at December 01, 2016 11:56 PM

Anything "white" is now automatically "white supremacist". We've seen the definition of "diversity" moving in that direction for years, but the left is now unhinged enough to make it public... well before the numbers are in their favor.

Maybe they hope they can fill that deficit with more street violence. Actually, count on it.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 02, 2016 12:01 AM (S2VsH)

567 For an album based on Animal Farm, I didn't get how the 3 different Clintons weren't the Pigs.

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 02, 2016 12:01 AM (M3DRt)

568 It is rather rude for women to always leave the seat down.

Posted by: eleven at December 02, 2016 12:02 AM (qUNWi)

569
Fuck that guy. His two "anti-War" musical contributions were an entire anti-Falklands War album, and a double LP about how wrong it was for the King to send his Daddy to die in WWII.

Peter Frampton put out an album in 2010 called Thank You Mr. Churchill

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thank_You_Mr._Churchill

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 02, 2016 12:02 AM (IqV8l)

570 Tim - so, a red-leg you are, huh?




Posted by: rhomboid at December 01, 2016 11:55 PM (QDnY+)

Yupp.



In every thing except the Beer at the Red Leg Inn at Sill. That swill was awful.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 02, 2016 12:03 AM (d76uN)

571 NYT headline... Trump chooses EX MARINE to head Dept. of Defense...


Could the NYT be any more clueless and dismissive? Could they be anymore downright RUDE?

Posted by: Don Q. at December 02, 2016 12:03 AM (qf6WZ)

572 Evenin' everyone. Am I late?

Posted by: Blanco Basura #Free Cthulhu (with full price purchase of Azatoth or Nyarlathotep) at December 02, 2016 12:04 AM (IcT7t)

573 Roger Waters was the creative weirdo of Pink Floyd.

...Well, after Syd went nuts...

But David, Richard and Nick were the musical soul of Pink Floyd. the post-Waters Floyd is largely (note entirely) my favorite Floyd.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Vikings fan at December 02, 2016 12:04 AM (n2teT)

574 Tim I was at Swill for 5 hours. Once. Flew in and out in one day. (only time I've set foot in OK, the reddest state of the disunion)


But I did get to watch an MLRS live-fire demo when I was there.


THAT is what I'm talkin' about.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 12:04 AM (QDnY+)

575 Yeah, Tammy; I'm gonna have to paraphrase a quote from the late, great Wash Burns, here. "Were (you) not wed, I would take you in a manly fashion. 'Cause you're pretty."

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 02, 2016 12:04 AM (0OG8D)

576 Really y'all I mislabeled.....

Commenttacular is much more apt......

Tammy.....Its been said I'm sure, Threadwinner.

Fuckin A.

Posted by: Hillbillyking at December 02, 2016 12:04 AM (NvweJ)

577 Posted by: Don Q. at December 02, 2016 12:03 AM (qf6WZ)

No, they really couldn't be.

I have a feeling, though, that we ain't seen nothin' yet.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 02, 2016 12:04 AM (lkEum)

578 Pigs grooves hard, though.

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 02, 2016 12:05 AM (M3DRt)

579 So what was that Saturday morning cartoon with the genious kid in glasses & the dog as is professor?
I think they had a time machine, too.

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at December 02, 2016 12:05 AM (aL/aJ)

580 That's breath-taking, Don Q., even for the NYT. Wow.


But think about it. Perfect. The MSM version of mispronouncing "corpseman" - displays ignorance and lack of respect all at once.


Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 12:06 AM (QDnY+)

581 I'm hoping it snows a shit ton next week weds & thurs so I don't have to travel to the company HQ

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 02, 2016 12:06 AM (voOPb)

582 flyboy, she married you for better or for worse. She knew you were a hard-ass worker when she did so.

But think carefully. Thor took a job in 2013 that has about ruined what we had.

Okay, I'm being overly dramatic, but he works almost all of the time and even though he's mostly at home now, it's still awful.

He's ahead of schedule and looking at less than a year to go, but things have changed. Probably get better again, but some days I wonder.

On the other hand, y'all are just starting out, so you have a different situation.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:58 PM (lkEum)

=======

I remember that time well, and would be very interested in your take on this whole thing. This is kind of a career crossroads, as it is a final progression at my age.

I step up or I retire from here. Which, I suspect, may have been the same decision for Thor.

I am honestly good with either option, as it is only a matter of degrees of comfort in retirement.

I put my email in my nic. Would you mind? Thank you.

Posted by: Flyboy at December 02, 2016 12:07 AM (L+dg+)

583
After 2004 the Left said Bush won because of a campaign on "gays, guns, and god."

2016 the Left is saying Trump won because of a white supremacist campaign.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 02, 2016 12:07 AM (qWvcB)

584 #579: Mr. Peabody. That was the dog's name; the kid was named Sherman.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 02, 2016 12:07 AM (0OG8D)

585 Mr. Peabody and Sherman

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 02, 2016 12:07 AM (IqV8l)

586 Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 02, 2016 12:04 AM (0OG8D)

You by God better take me in a manly fashion, or don't take me at all!

Amirite, ladies?!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 02, 2016 12:07 AM (lkEum)

587 480's BB of Free C.....

Posted by: Hillbillyking at December 02, 2016 12:07 AM (NvweJ)

588 I learned that lesson early. As a young boy, I was with my father at the local Ford Tractor dealership. An older fellow came in, driving an old beat up pickup and wearing overalls. Just a regular old Joe.

He came in, jawed and carried on with everybody, got what he was after, then left. My father then said, son, that there is the richest man in the county, and up there in the running for the whole state. He explained that he actually owned the dealership we were in. Huh? And he owned a hell of a lot of other stuff as well.

His net worth was in the tens of millions at the time. That would've been around 1980 or so.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 02, 2016 12:07 AM (DW+jj)

589 579 - Peabody and Sherman.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at December 02, 2016 12:07 AM (/WPPJ)

590 "But I did get to watch an MLRS live-fire demo when I was there. "

Were they shooting firecrackers? That is sight to see especially if you get the whole Battalion firing at once.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 02, 2016 12:07 AM (d76uN)

591 i am better than fine tammy.
much improvement in my life since last spring.

looking forward to this winter.
hung lights today.
better get my tree.

thanks tons.

Posted by: concrete girl at December 02, 2016 12:08 AM (cV1ki)

592 Anyone watch this left wing agitprop called Designated Survivor? How Keifer has fallen. But as expected for ol' Kumar.

Posted by: gm at December 02, 2016 12:09 AM (K0tm3)

593 The link isn't working but I think I see you email it in the error text. Will do!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 02, 2016 12:09 AM (lkEum)

594 I read a biography of Eric Clapton a few years ago. He had a funny story about touring with Roger Waters is support of the Pro & Cons of Hitchhiking album. They were is a very fancy restaraunt somewhere but Clapton was in the mood for a Big Mac and Fries. So, thats what he ordered, albeit he did it before he went in to said fancy restaraunt. So, in the middle of this fancy restaraunt, in comes somebody with a familar fast food bag with a Big Mac and fries for a Mr. Clapton. Roger wasn't amused.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 02, 2016 12:09 AM (pY+s4)

595
It is rather rude for women to always leave the seat down.

Posted by: eleven at December 02, 2016 12:02 AM (qUNWi)


The lid is there to make sure you do not piss on the seat.


Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 02, 2016 12:09 AM (P/kVC)

596 #586: Well! If you insist, madame...

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 02, 2016 12:10 AM (0OG8D)

597 Your feet stuck to the floor.
Posted by: chavez the hugo
--------

Ah. A true sign of a dive. I once dropped a coin and bent to pick it up, then realized that what I assumed was just a scuzzy concrete floor had actually been carpet at one time. It probably took 30-40 years to achieve that fossilized state.

The older the place, the better. If there are faded, dust-covered Schlitz signs, you're probably in a good place.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2016 12:11 AM (ZO497)

598 Posted by: concrete girl at December 02, 2016 12:08 AM (cV1ki)

I am SO GLAD.

So glad, sweetheart.

Enjoy those lights. I love this time of year!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 02, 2016 12:11 AM (lkEum)

599 Thank you. Of course - Mr. Peabody. How could I forget that?

Thanks again, NerdHorde.

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at December 02, 2016 12:11 AM (aL/aJ)

600 515 Heh. Hillary's paranoia endures:

http://www.propornot.com/p/home.html?m=1

Remember the way we were told WE were the paranoid conspiracy theory freaks?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 01, 2016 11:44 PM (c6C3U)


I linked this before, but Gates of Vienna has a must-read post about the "fake news" meme and the mysterious PropOrNot website, which only went online nine days before the election.

http://gatesofvienna.net/2016/11/fake-journalism-fake-virtue/

Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at December 02, 2016 12:11 AM (sdi6R)

601 Tim, of course we were on the firing and not receiving end, where the real fun occurs. Don't recall what sort of rounds they were firing.


This was when the system was new (early 80s). Flew in/out on a LearJet with a few others. And yes, we all used the phone on the jet to call friends - just to do it.


Only other rockets I've seen were on the receiving end (not, fortunately and obviously, THAT close to the impact point). Katyushas and Grads make nice reddish sparkly trails in the sky at night.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 12:12 AM (QDnY+)

602 flyboy, the @ part is missing, I think....

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 02, 2016 12:12 AM (lkEum)

603 Posted by: Puddleglum at December 02, 2016 12:09 AM

I imagine he wasn't. Waters strikes me as another John Cleese. Counter-culture on the outside, but stuffy class-conscious Brit underneath.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 02, 2016 12:12 AM (S2VsH)

604 I wonder if you actually could drive sea to sea through the red counties. The main problem would be all interstates passing through blue counties periodically, and finding red routes through the mountain ranges. Assuming you start in mid-Virginia you'd have to take some highway through the Appalachians, wind circuitously through Ohio, shoot for Idaho while going around any large cities on I-70 or I-80, then slip through to Oregon.

Would probably make an interesting travelogue (though nothing can make Kansas or eastern Colorado interesting in the slightest.)

Posted by: Cjw at December 02, 2016 12:13 AM (7SQMF)

605 Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 02, 2016 12:09 AM (P/kVC)

Thank you.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 02, 2016 12:13 AM (lkEum)

606 590. MLRS. Rooshian TOS-1A 'BURATINO' - fires thermobaric exclusively.

https://youtu.be/8IiPuzj1OXA

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 02, 2016 12:13 AM (c6C3U)

607 Posted by: gm at December 02, 2016 12:09 AM (K0tm3)
Keifer used to have a ranch around here. He's shorter than I am. He used to like to drink at the rougher establishments. The sheriffs had to help him out on more than one occasion.
The locals wanted to beat his ass.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 02, 2016 12:13 AM (Q5Ymk)

608 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2016 12:11 AM (ZO497)

You were never to the Boom Bay Bar I take it?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 02, 2016 12:14 AM (voOPb)

609 Now see, I love Kansas. We always find some cool things to do there.

I couldn't take the scenery long-term, but I absolutely love visiting.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 02, 2016 12:14 AM (lkEum)

610 If Robert Downey Jr made a video and said, "I will not be involved in any Marvel movies unless Joss Whedon is fired and barred from everything," his non-Marvel movies would skyrocket. And the subsequent Marvel movies would also do well.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 02, 2016 12:15 AM (MZcWR)

611 >>>Would probably make an interesting travelogue (though nothing can make Kansas or eastern Colorado interesting in the slightest.

Nuclear bombs?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 02, 2016 12:15 AM (voOPb)

612 Posted by: CaliGirl at December 02, 2016 12:13 AM

Does the infamous picture of him at a bar with his pants around his ankles come from your neck of the woods?

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 02, 2016 12:15 AM (S2VsH)

613
Bush says Trump should also pay attention to North Korea.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 02, 2016 12:15 AM (qWvcB)

614 flyboy, the @ part is missing, I think....
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 02, 2016 12:12 AM (lkEum)

====

Sorry, should be fixed now.

Posted by: Flyboy at December 02, 2016 12:15 AM (L+dg+)

615 597: whatever falls on the floor is for the hungover poor shmuck that has to clean up after us degenerates a couple of years from now. dives rule. a great cross section of americana. if you hate dives, you haven't lived.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 02, 2016 12:15 AM (KP5rU)

616 Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 02, 2016 12:10 AM (0OG8D)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 02, 2016 12:16 AM (lkEum)

617 Yeah, that's why when I travel from Houston to Denver, I go through New Mexico. Looking at beautiful mesas versus looking at cows... I'll go with the mesas

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 02, 2016 12:17 AM (6FqZa)

618 608: i have. problem? i didn't notice anything.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 02, 2016 12:17 AM (KP5rU)

619 Test email sent, flyboy!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 02, 2016 12:18 AM (lkEum)

620 594, Waters' upcoming tour is called us and them.He read some pro Palestinian crap poem he wrote before the encore.Even in CA, I heard comments like "give it a break, dude"

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 02, 2016 12:18 AM (M3DRt)

621 Nice, Palpatine. Of course the rooskis are past-masters at artillery rockets.


Can't recall where, in one of the zillion WWII histories I've read, there was an account of a mass Katyusha barrage on a German position during the final winter '45 offensive. Basically only a few dazed German soldiers survived, barely coherent enough to surrender - otherwise, God's hand just wiped the place clean and killed everyone.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 12:18 AM (QDnY+)

622 Of course, I am as redneck as they come.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 01, 2016 11:52 PM (lkEum)

---
when did you live in Lynwatts?

i grew up just north of you, and my 1st ARNG unit was there, across the street from the park, next to the Sheriff's station.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 02, 2016 12:19 AM (84In0)

623 I haven't watched the Kelly file since the election, until tonight. She has turned into quite the bitter bitch.

Posted by: LASue at December 02, 2016 12:19 AM (R2dMB)

624 You were never to the Boom Bay Bar I take it?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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No, but I have hit a couple of decent bars in Wisconsin.

I'm reminded of The Shack, here in NC. Their matches (remember paper matches?) said; "When You're Down in the Dumps, This is the Dump to be Down in".

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2016 12:19 AM (ZO497)

625 Hammer, where is the shack?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 02, 2016 12:20 AM (KP5rU)

626 Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 02, 2016 12:17 AM (6FqZa)

I find NM beautiful only near the AZ border on 40, and even that only for awhile. (The newish rest stop is gorgeous.) Plus the water stinks to high heaven.

All things being equal I prefer cows. I just don't care for anything remotely desert looking.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 02, 2016 12:21 AM (lkEum)

627 #616: Yeah, now I'm gonna have to quote Sheriff Black Bart... "Excuse me, while I whip this out."

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 02, 2016 12:22 AM (0OG8D)

628 556
And I was blissfully unaware of almost have a little tornado rip through here.

when do they stop being dust devils and start being tornadoes?

Posted by: Anachronda at December 02, 2016 12:22 AM (Oi5b2)

629 whatever falls on the floor is for the hungover poor shmuck that has to clean up after us degenerates a couple of years from now. dives rule. a great cross section of americana. if you hate dives, you haven't lived.
Posted by: chavez the hugo
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I've been in some that I don't think have changed since the depression. The kind of place where you wouldn't be surprised to fine Tom Waits sitting down at the end of the bar.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2016 12:23 AM (ZO497)

630 Posted by: redc1c4 at December 02, 2016 12:19 AM (84In0)

Early 80s. I lived on Pope Street, right off of the 7 and ....MLK, maybe? Just south of Imperial, I think.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 02, 2016 12:23 AM (lkEum)

631 GF came in one night and said, "you know, you left the seat up and I almost fell in"

I thought about that for a minute and then said, "OK. I'll leave the seat down from now on and pee on it instead."



dead silence as we lay there in the dark



I said, "win-win, right?"



At this point I started giggling uncontrollably.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2016 12:00 AM (Ki0nU)

Were you thinking about the South Park episode?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRquaeH8kfQ

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 02, 2016 12:23 AM (tHwdc)

632 Tom Waits, my God, you will summon Thor with that one.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 02, 2016 12:24 AM (lkEum)

633 Hammer, where is the shack?
Posted by: chavez
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Used to be an old house in, of all places, Chapel Hill.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2016 12:24 AM (ZO497)

634 484 465 119 Why would an 86 year old man with health issues go to Antarctica?
Posted by: Roy at December 01, 2016 10:28 PM (fWLrt)

Because he's Buzz Fucking Aldrin.

that should be enough explanation.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Vikings fan at December 01, 2016 11:39 PM (n2teT)


Buzz had been to 6 of the continents.

And the Moon.

Antarctica was just filling in the last box.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 02, 2016 12:25 AM (1JnAL)

635 Ah, it's been fun, but now I'm out of beer and I should get to bed before I'm tempted to buy more beer and stay up until, like, 2 am.

Good night, everyone!

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 02, 2016 12:25 AM (0OG8D)

636 Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 02, 2016 12:15 AM (S2VsH)
No, he lived here pre 24. Dude was everywhere and he liked dive bars. The bartenders would call the sheriffs to take him home, also so he didn't get his ass beat.
He had a ranch off foxen canyon rd.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 02, 2016 12:25 AM (Q5Ymk)

637 met robby gordon in a dive bar in crandon, wi one. a true moron. great guy.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 02, 2016 12:26 AM (KP5rU)

638 Good night Proth, I am calling it a night, too.

Sleep sweet, y'all!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 02, 2016 12:26 AM (lkEum)

639 when do they stop being dust devils and start being tornadoes?

Posted by: Anachronda at December 02, 2016 12:22 AM (Oi5b2)


When they can pick your ass off the ground and throw you like just another stalk of corn.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 02, 2016 12:26 AM (kKHcp)

640 >> Antarctica was just filling in the last box.

At the age of 86, why not?

I would think that actually dying in Antarctica puts you in a fairly select group.

Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2016 12:27 AM (TppKb)

641 Tom Waits, my God, you will summon Thor with that one.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
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I stay away from Tom if I've been drinking. Afraid I'll be sucked into some dark place from which there is no return.

BTW, there were a few great old dives in Atalnta, pre-yuppy. Old neighborhood bars with aged barflys and hobos. I loved 'em.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2016 12:27 AM (ZO497)

642 I'm sure there are pretty little spots somewhere in western Kansas that somebody loves, but none of them are within 20 miles of the roads, which look like Looney Toons cartoon roads running flat and straight into a point on a barren horizon that never seems to arrive. If you suddenly crashed into a cleverly painted Hollywood backdrop placed on the road by Wile E Coyote it would be a merciful end.

Posted by: Cjw at December 02, 2016 12:28 AM (7SQMF)

643 Hammer, we are planning on being down around the coast of NC this spring. Always looking for off the wall shit like that.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 02, 2016 12:28 AM (KP5rU)

644 Wish I had a ranch off Foxen Cyn Road.


Or Zaca Station Road.


Or anywhere near there.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 12:28 AM (QDnY+)

645 Test email sent, flyboy!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 02, 2016 12:18 AM (lkEum)

======

Got it and replied, thank you!

Posted by: Flyboy at December 02, 2016 12:29 AM (L+dg+)

646 I think Roger Waters knew Trump would win. He had a Trump pig in early October
---

It's the old Pink Floyd pig. He's really left, so if it had Trump on it, it was probably a protest.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 02, 2016 12:29 AM (OlyEd)

647 170 Brandon Finnigan says red states and blue states are a myth.

http://tinyurl.com/gwvjfsq

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 01, 2016 10:39 PM (IqV8l)

++++

A couple of quotes from the piece.

States may favor, for a variety of reasons, one party, but they are not permanently locked in - crackpot conspiracies of deliberate demographic changes through immigration and equally crackpot proclamations of demographics-driven eternal victories be equally damned.

That was near the beginning of the piece. Now here's one from near the end.

Democrats will also continue to fight hard in Nevada, North Carolina, and Florida, states where changing demographics can give them a boost.

You see, haters, although it's true that demographics can play a role, it is crackpottery to think that anyone would want to take advantage of that fact.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 02, 2016 12:29 AM (R+30W)

648 >>I'm sure there are pretty little spots somewhere in western Kansas that somebody loves


The one with the tree is quite lovely.

Posted by: garrett at December 02, 2016 12:29 AM (MQZBa)

649 nite Tammy

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 02, 2016 12:29 AM (KP5rU)

650 621. Gotta love the effect of massed rocket fire.

The Buratino - Rooshian for 'Pinocchio' - is officially classified as a 'heavy flamethrower unit. ' heh.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 02, 2016 12:29 AM (c6C3U)

651 628:

Well, the EF scale starts at EF-0, which has a wind speed rating of 65 - 85 mph. That's not really all there is to it, it gets complicated. Any tornado that is confirmed but does no damage is always rate EF-0. It has to do damage to be rated higher, somehow.

Anyway, EF-1 wind speed is rated 86-110 mph. The wind speed is a proxy calculated from the damage intensity somehow.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 02, 2016 12:29 AM (DW+jj)

652 Hey y'all.

Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 12:31 AM (CRotO)

653 Hammer, we are planning on being down around the coast of NC this spring. Always looking for off the wall shit like that.
Posted by: chavez
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Can't help much down East. That area has been so developed that little pre 1980's exists. Everyone has become 'sophisticated'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2016 12:31 AM (ZO497)

654 618 608: i have. problem? i didn't notice anything.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 02, 2016 12:17 AM (KP5rU)

Chavez were the urinals working that night & did the feature dancer have her 2 front teeth?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 02, 2016 12:31 AM (voOPb)

655
You see, haters, although it's true that demographics can play a role, it is crackpottery to think that anyone would want to take advantage of that fact.


Heh.

CAC should stick to art.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 02, 2016 12:32 AM (qWvcB)

656 One thing I really admired about Hunter/Garcia was how overtly non-sjw/political they were. Once Garcia passed away, they got caught up in the Obama nonsense, but now even Weir has calmed down and just encourages registering to vote, which is fine.

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 02, 2016 12:32 AM (M3DRt)

657 Test email sent, flyboy!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 02, 2016 12:18 AM (lkEum)

=====

We are, at this point, pretty close to where you were a few years ago. Very interested in your response.

Posted by: Flyboy at December 02, 2016 12:32 AM (L+dg+)

658 Anyway, that cousin of mine, who has his own little weather station basically in his house knew there was "tornadic circulation" in the area. He's always plugged into the weather radar systems somehow.

But they have to confirm it, which they did and it was rated EF-1.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 02, 2016 12:33 AM (DW+jj)

659 Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 12:28 AM (QDnY+)
His ranch was pretty much across the street from foxen winery, maybe a little south from foxen winery. My friends parents have a ranch out there.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 02, 2016 12:34 AM (Q5Ymk)

660 *Now see, I love Kansas. We always find some cool things to do there.

I couldn't take the scenery long-term, but I absolutely love visiting.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor #FreeCthulhu at December 02, 2016 12:14 AM (lkEum)*

I used to have to traverse Kansas on the way to the inlaws. Would drive at night so i could imagine something was out there.

Posted by: tbodie at December 02, 2016 12:34 AM (UE8f6)

661 MH, I don't know about the urinals. I pissed outside like a man. The teeth as I recall were optional. Kinda like a coin stuck to the floor.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 02, 2016 12:35 AM (KP5rU)

662 One sunny windy day in Lassen County I watched a dust devil waltz downgrade the street, STOP at a metal building with large sliding double doors, it ripped the locks off and lifted the doors horizontal to the ground, then let them slap back down, and the devil started up again and went its way down the street.

Posted by: torabora at December 02, 2016 12:36 AM (Xmx1l)

663 I'm out for the night, everybody have a good evening.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 02, 2016 12:37 AM (Q5Ymk)

664 fyi
_the vikings got hosed.

Posted by: free tibet, and all that other sh*t at December 02, 2016 12:37 AM (CL76w)

665 Miley, I was thinking of my 8 month pregnant step-sister who was fulminating to my step-mom about my brother-in-law leaving the seat up one night causing her to fall in.
I've been mulling responses to that since then.



Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2016 12:38 AM (Ki0nU)

666 Yeah they did, free tibet.

Dude was hanging off his mask.

Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 12:38 AM (CRotO)

667 Yay.

Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 12:39 AM (CRotO)

668 How? Game determining call?

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 02, 2016 12:39 AM (M3DRt)

669 I would think that actually dying in Antarctica puts you in a fairly select group.
Posted by: JEM



It kind of sucks actually.

Posted by: R. J. MacReady at December 02, 2016 12:40 AM (pY+s4)

670 adios everybody. time for some sleep.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 02, 2016 12:40 AM (KP5rU)

671 Niters chavez.

Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 12:41 AM (CRotO)

672 It's always National Pie Day chez moi.

Posted by: Jingo Unchained! at December 02, 2016 12:41 AM (GdgAM)

673 >> He will die where he lived: On the wrong side
>> of history.

The British left came completely unhinged over Thatcher, more than the American left over Reagan, very much like the Trump situation.

They had history on their side (guided and funded by the USSR through the unions, if you believe many pundits) and then Thatcher happened and...

...well, we got a lot of good music (yeah, I'm a hypocrite, but I saw all - almost all, just about every one that ever toured California - of those Brit bands slagging off Maggie and still voted for Reagan twice, so they had exactly as much impact on post-high-school me as Katy Perry and the rest had on Trump voters, there was a local SF female band that played all the lesbian bars that had some wonderful period songs "Age of the Neutron Bomb" but I don't think they sold vinyl at their gigs, they never got a contract, and this was before the 'net...)

Oh, and you had leftist radicals like Chris Hitchens before the reality bitch-slap who figured Reagan and Thatcher were Satanic, go back and read some '80s C-Hitchens and it reads like the Anti-Trump brigade.

Anyway the union barons got shit upon for a decade and the Brit economy recovered a bit, and then the world got Major and Bush 41...

Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2016 12:41 AM (TppKb)

674 Hasta lasagna. Grace and peace to all.

Posted by: Halfwise at December 02, 2016 12:43 AM (rB/gm)

675
Hitchens had a hard on for Mother Theresa too.

I never liked Hitchens.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 02, 2016 12:43 AM (qWvcB)

676 SMFH, nite. God bless you. I pray for you every nite.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 02, 2016 12:44 AM (KP5rU)

677 Anon Y Mous, thanks for that.


Hope the Meatball is OK. Wasn't he skeered about rayycism and all the other magic plagues that were going to appear if You Know Who won?


I assume he makes exceptions. CA and MA and NY are as "locked in" as they get (OK the same, I guess). He lives in L.A., I think. If he doesn't get that "ethnicity"/"race"/demos are coterminous with Dem party power, he has to be joking. I hope he also enjoyed having no GOP candidates to even vote for several offices, speaking of "locked in".

Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 12:44 AM (QDnY+)

678 >> One sunny windy day in Lassen County I watched a
>> dust devil waltz downgrade the street,

My guess is it's a Google skunkworks project.

Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2016 12:45 AM (TppKb)

679 Sh!t. My last paycheck bounced. F!cking Greek dude.

No worries, my Social Security Disability should be coming through any day now. My lawyer is very connected.

My life sucks now. I hope you're happy.

Posted by: Concern Troll at December 02, 2016 12:45 AM (iMxBJ)

680 An attraction of the HOA is neighborhood stability.
A new attractive neighborhood is built and within 10 years it's in the dumper, sometimes it's predictable sometimes not. The HOA is a rude effort to prevent this from happening.

Personally, I've had my fill of them.

Posted by: gNewt at December 02, 2016 12:46 AM (iuoTc)

681 JEM, we lived in London 77-83. My Dad worked for Humana when they still had hospitals. They had 2 there for foreigners who wanted no part of their NHS

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 02, 2016 12:47 AM (M3DRt)

682 It kind of sucks actually.

Posted by: R. J. MacReady

I am just going outside and may be gone for some time.

Posted by: Capt L.E.G. Oates at December 02, 2016 12:47 AM (H5rtT)

683 >> It kind of sucks actually.
>>Posted by: R. J. MacReady

Go away, poser

Posted by: Robert F. Scott at December 02, 2016 12:47 AM (TppKb)

684 I never liked Hitchens.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 02, 2016 12:43 AM

He had Islam's number. Credit where credit is due.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 02, 2016 12:48 AM (S2VsH)

685 640 I would think that actually dying in Antarctica puts you in a fairly select group.
Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2016 12:27 AM (TppKb)


Word.

I am just going outside and may be some time.

Posted by: Zombie Captain Lawrence Oates at December 02, 2016 12:48 AM (iMxBJ)

686 No worries, my Social Security Disability should be coming through any day now. My lawyer is very connected.

My life sucks now. I hope you're happy.

I can attest that receiving SSDI is a poor replacement for working. I would give my left nut to be able to work.

Posted by: USNtakim at December 02, 2016 12:48 AM (hMqvx)

687 They had 2 there for foreigners who wanted no part of their NHS

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 02, 2016 12:47 AM

I take it NHS forbade UK citizens to use them?

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 02, 2016 12:49 AM (S2VsH)

688 2 point conversion for the tie and the queerboys get away with hitting the qb in the head and facemask.

Posted by: free tibet, and all that other sh*t at December 02, 2016 12:49 AM (CL76w)

689 If men make sure the lid is up
why can't women make sure the lid is down?

Posted by: gNewt at December 02, 2016 12:50 AM (iuoTc)

690 My word! Beaten to the punch!

Posted by: Zombie Captain Lawrence Oates at December 02, 2016 12:50 AM (iMxBJ)

691 Hitch was actually a real Devil's Advocate against Mother Teresa in some of the canonization proceedings, wasn't he?

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 02, 2016 12:50 AM (DW+jj)

692 687, yes

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 02, 2016 12:50 AM (M3DRt)

693
You could say that.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 02, 2016 12:50 AM (qWvcB)

694 Though not everyone agrees that the bystander should have acted as judge, jury, and executioner by killing the attacker...

Ummm... What was the guy attacking the Deputy acting as?

Posted by: Socratese at December 01, 2016 10:34 PM (2GbWn)

Who were the assholes saying that to begin with?

Sheesh.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 02, 2016 12:52 AM (Jcg9Q)

695 689 If men make sure the lid is up
why can't women make sure the lid is down?
Posted by: gNewt at December 02, 2016 12:50 AM (iuoTc)


We all think of that at some point, and it never works.

Posted by: Splunge at December 02, 2016 12:52 AM (iMxBJ)

696 Splunge, heh, and off striving, seeking, finding, unyielding sock.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 02, 2016 12:52 AM (H5rtT)

697 558 Rusty Nail:

"Fuck that guy [Roger Waters]. His two "anti-War" musical contributions were an entire anti-Falklands War album, and a double LP about how wrong it was for the King to send his Daddy to die in WWII."

He's still upset they made Daddy go fight that nice pro-Palestinian Mr. Hitler.

Posted by: FOAF at December 02, 2016 12:52 AM (p0JMG)

698 Dang, free.

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 02, 2016 12:53 AM (M3DRt)

699 >> EM, we lived in London 77-83. My Dad worked for
>> Humana when they still had hospitals. They had 2
>> there for foreigners who wanted no part of their
>> NHS

The conventional wisdom is that the Brits fought WWII to conclusion for the welfare state, NHS, and ground-nuts.

Look, I can fully see why the Brits like NHS. It's kinda like a free bus service, that costs nothing on the surface (and when you dig into it, only costs 2/3 of what you'd have to pay to own a car.)

They have a halfway-orderly system that's the equivalent of a national chain of Motel 6s where half the rooms still have the drunks' piss on the floor.

We have a colossal mess of various institutions ranging from cardboard sheds to Trump hotels, and which one you get into depends on who you work for and what conditions you have.

And the cost of their system is pretty much invisible, while the cost of ours pops up in odd ways here and there, and some people skate while others get screwed.

Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2016 12:54 AM (TppKb)

700 Capt L.E.G. Oates; Robert F. Scott


Gonna give you two a blood test. Just to be safe. Don't worry about it, its probably nothing.

Posted by: R. J. MacReady at December 02, 2016 12:54 AM (pY+s4)

701 I thought that maybe after watching Trump's Ohio rally, I could take a break from schadenfreude, being so sated.

And then someone brought up Roger Waters, and I imagine how he has been feeling for the last few weeks, and it's off to the races again.

Posted by: Splunge at December 02, 2016 12:55 AM (iMxBJ)

702 Thank you, chavez.

Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 12:55 AM (CRotO)

703 >> why can't women make sure the lid is down?

Are any of the 'ettes still here? If not, I'll tell you: we have to stand and sit. They always sit. Thus in their minds, the seat being up is an anomaly, and unnatural state, and something awful we men do that we have to be trained not to do in their minds.

All manner of logic and reason does not work with them. It can be shown that when a man and woman share the toilet, it is most efficient for whoever uses the toilet to place the seat in the position they need, and leave it. It results in less sea flipping overall by far, and even then the man still has to flip the seat up a little more than the woman has to put the seat down.

For the man to always put the seat back down results in him having to flip the seat over twice as many times, and the woman never having to.

And since that results in less yelling by the female, it may be the best for the man anyway.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 02, 2016 12:55 AM (DW+jj)

704 Good Bars......

Thats a thread topic for the future.....(probably been done, but so has the bookthd.....)

We need a a link "AoS guide to fine dining" recommended and verified by professionals.

Mike, Mis H,.....

"The Sportsman".....so very fuckin cleshay, but they're only closed during no octane sale hours.....5hrs M-S....11hrs Sun....

The 1216 front plate glass, (its a storefront style place, 40yrs plus...)......hasn't been cleaned in at least 10yrs. Grey/Brown opaqueness.....perfect for day drinkin.

As long as the regulars don't drive, piss on the street Tues at 1pm, no brawlin, etc.....local pd lets it be.......

The Horde guide of Real Bars......be a good link....

Posted by: Hillbillyking at December 02, 2016 12:55 AM (NvweJ)

705 Country Boy,

So did your bunnyboiler-in-training contact you again?

Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 12:56 AM (CRotO)

706 >> We have a colossal mess of various institutions
>> ranging from cardboard sheds to Trump hotels, and

Oh, and even the cardboard sheds have to pay for contraceptives and dick-removal surgery.

Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2016 12:57 AM (TppKb)

707 702: No thanks needed SMFH. Us morons stick together. I learned from you believe it or not. So, thanks.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 02, 2016 12:58 AM (KP5rU)

708 For the man to always put the seat back down results in him having to flip the seat over twice as many times, and the woman never having to.

And since that results in less yelling by the female, it may be the best for the man anyway.
Posted by: publius


The entire drama is null and void if everyone just puts the lid down on the seat as you should.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2016 12:59 AM (1G5R8)

709 Wow, check out the Drudge-linked story on the stupid Harvard forum where KellyAnne Conway attended, along with a bunch of Hildabeast campaign staff.


These stupid, stupid, ignorant Clinton people actually seem to believe (but, they're stupid, so why not) that "raycissm!!!" was the key to Trump's victory.


Dog-whistles, platform for white "supremacist" sentiments - the whole horde of Dem unicorns makes an appearance.


Hard for me to be optimistic, still, when stupid racists like this continue to control big states like CA and NY, and obviously infest all of the "elite" institutions and ramparts of the civic culture.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 01:00 AM (QDnY+)

710 >> Are any of the 'ettes still here? If not, I'll tell you:
>> we have to stand and sit.

I'm sorry, but at night, I'm a pure sitzpinkler.

I don't want to crank the light on in the bathroom when I crawl out of bed because that last guzzle of club soda wants out, and my willie doesn't have a laser indicator on it.

Perhaps an oversight on my part, and I'm sure there some vendor that could accommodate that need, but it's much easier just to sit down.

Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2016 01:00 AM (TppKb)

711 JEM, the cleaning lady Humana provided needed a root canal and had to wait almost 3 months back then. The Brirs have bad teeth for a reason. My youngest brother was born there and that was fine

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 02, 2016 01:01 AM (5iFlS)

712 OK, actually, Mrs Splunge gave me an argument about toilet seats that was so good that I've been putting them down ever since. Ok, not quite, I had to install those "soft close" toilet seats, highly recommended, which you can just fling in the direction of down, and they take care of the rest.

Ready for the argument? Here it is. If you're a woman, and it's the middle of the night, and you sit down on the toilet, and the seat is not down, you plunge into the toilet bowl, and...well, I don't know the rest, but it sounds bad.

Posted by: Splunge at December 02, 2016 01:01 AM (iMxBJ)

713 >> Hard for me to be optimistic, still, when stupid
>> racists like this continue to control big states like CA
>> and NY, and obviously infest all of the "elite"
>> institutions and ramparts of the civic culture.

De-sanctuarization and voter ID.

Then review the situation.

Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2016 01:01 AM (TppKb)

714 ooook...

Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 01:01 AM (CRotO)

715 His net worth was in the tens of millions at the time. That would've been around 1980 or so.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 02, 2016 12:07 AM (DW+jj)

Being from Alaska, nobody every questions what somebody wears. Usually, if a guy is wearing a suit and tie, he is a lawyer from California. If he's wearing a plaid shirt, levis and boots, odds are he is doing just fine financially. If he's wearing an old hoody with holes in it, ratty shorts and old sneakers, he has a limited entry permit, owns a fishing boat and clears more money in 2 months than you made in the last 10 years.

Tattoos are not mandatory, but acceptible, and if you dye your hair some completely unnatural color, that's probably a sign that you are the sacristan at the Catholic Church downtown.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 02, 2016 01:02 AM (cm1Bl)

716 At night I'm more of a wildpinkler. I'll go in a discrete fenced part of the side yard so as not to wake anyone in the house (our bathroom fans are NOISY).

It helps that it does not ever snow where I live.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 02, 2016 01:02 AM (S2VsH)

717 I have damn good night vision.

Falling into the toilet isn't a thing for me.

Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 01:03 AM (CRotO)

718 Heya tcn.

Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 01:03 AM (CRotO)

719 >> JEM, the cleaning lady Humana provided needed a
>> root canal and had to wait almost 3 months back
>> then. The Brirs have bad teeth for a reason. My
>> youngest brother was born there and that was fine

That sounds about right.

Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2016 01:03 AM (TppKb)

720 701 I thought that maybe after watching Trump's Ohio rally, I could take a break from schadenfreude, being so sated.

And then someone brought up Roger Waters, and I imagine how he has been feeling for the last few weeks, and it's off to the races again.

Posted by: Splunge at December 02, 2016 12:55 AM (iMxBJ)

Yeah very time I wilt, i think of my BIL and his wife and how he HAD to come over to me AT A WEDDING and say how hard he was working for the Democratic party, and how much money he was donating, blah blah f*cking blah.
He's a rabid commie, total asshole.

Every time i think about it get an SB that can cut diamonds...

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'ask me about free range Hobo jerkey' at December 02, 2016 01:04 AM (mBYZv)

721 #631 They make soft close seats/lids. They don't make noise. GF always leaves seat down. I always leave lid down. Makes her work for it.

Posted by: torabora at December 02, 2016 01:04 AM (Xmx1l)

722 Perhaps an oversight on my part, and I'm sure there some vendor that could accommodate that need, but it's much easier just to sit down.
Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2016 01:00 AM (TppKb)

Dude, invent and market, ASAP.

It's how America got built.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 02, 2016 01:05 AM (cm1Bl)

723 Why should you sit down on the thing in the middle of the night? We don't normally, because we realize the seat could be up, so we check. They don't, because they think it should always be down. So, we get yelled and cussed at.

The best thing for a good marriage is separate bathrooms. Let them have their commode, and we have ours. :-)

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 02, 2016 01:05 AM (DW+jj)

724 Voter ID will be impossible to invoke nationwide, I think. The Constitution is super-clear that states have full domain over their own elections. It's one of the many reasons the electoral college exists.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 02, 2016 01:05 AM (S2VsH)

725 Sooo...

Mad Dog Mattis is gonna be the new SecDef.

Heh.

Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 01:05 AM (CRotO)

726 >> If he's wearing an old hoody with holes in it, ratty
>> shorts and old sneakers

Well, I'm currently wearing an old hoody with holes in it, ratty shorts, newish sneakers, but I don't smell like fish. Nor, at present, do I make that kind of money.

Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2016 01:06 AM (TppKb)

727 And to think we were just joking about it here....lol.

Who knew Trump reads the comments.

Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 01:06 AM (CRotO)

728 whoa

this might make 1000

Posted by: origional Jake at December 02, 2016 01:06 AM (jrFgU)

729 It helps that it does not ever snow where I live.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 02, 2016 01:02 AM (S2VsH)

As my husband says, the world is your urinal, buddy.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 02, 2016 01:06 AM (cm1Bl)

730 Well, I'm currently wearing an old hoody with holes in it, ratty shorts, newish sneakers, but I don't smell like fish. Nor, at present, do I make that kind of money.

Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2016 01:06 AM (TppKb)

Do you live in Alaska? That probably makes the difference.

We DO also have the posers, though. Call them, IDK, dreamers?

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 02, 2016 01:07 AM (cm1Bl)

731 I'm wondering what its going to take for the French to learn their lesson?

Posted by: torabora at December 02, 2016 01:08 AM (Xmx1l)

732
trump
trump
trump

deport
deport
deport

Posted by: origional Jake at December 02, 2016 01:08 AM (jrFgU)

733 725 Sooo...
Mad Dog Mattis is gonna be the new SecDef.
Heh.
Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 01:05 AM (CRotO)


Yeah. During Obama's reign, someone made ROTC cadets walk in high heels, to see what is like to be a woman, I guess. Why you would want that is beyond me. I suppose Obama was all for it. But imagining General Mattis' opinion of that puts a smile on my face.

Posted by: Splunge at December 02, 2016 01:08 AM (iMxBJ)

734 >> Voter ID will be impossible to invoke nationwide, I
>> think.

It's another one of things where the throttling of Federal funding and other gotchas will have to be invoked. And it may not be purely an ID thing, you've got cleaning the voter rolls, you've got motor voter, etc.

I'm fairly confident Jeff Sessions is a decent choice to pursue this.

Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2016 01:08 AM (TppKb)

735 718 Heya tcn.
Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 01:03 AM (CRotO)

Heya. How goes the battle today?

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 02, 2016 01:09 AM (cm1Bl)

736 Without an HOA, have fun with your neighbors on both sides having 18-wheelers parked on the street and beat-up boats and non-running cars in their driveways.

Posted by: Crusader at December 01, 2016 11:08 PM (OXPMi)

You say that as though there were something wrong with it. Good luck getting a jump start from the poofter with the Prius. But the good old boy with the Olds 442 on blocks in his driveway will not only give you a jump start, he'll do a load check on your battery, and test your alternator, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2016 01:09 AM (MiBfH)

737 side note
some of those blue spots surrounded by red in the western US are indian reservations

Posted by: origional Jake at December 02, 2016 01:09 AM (jrFgU)

738 Better than yesterday.

Watching exploding heads on youtube.

Always cheers me up.

Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 01:10 AM (CRotO)

739 >> It helps that it does not ever snow where I live


Snowing right now.

Big fluffy flakes. Though I doubt we'll get much in the way of accumulation until Sunday.

Posted by: garrett at December 02, 2016 01:10 AM (MQZBa)

740 736 Without an HOA, have fun with your neighbors on both sides having 18-wheelers parked on the street and beat-up boats and non-running cars in their driveways.

Posted by: Crusader at December 01, 2016 11:08 PM (OXPMi)

You say that as though there were something wrong with it. Good luck getting a jump start from the poofter with the Prius. But the good old boy with the Olds 442 on blocks in his driveway will not only give you a jump start, he'll do a load check on your battery, and test your alternator, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2016 01:09 AM (MiBfH)

Oh sweetie, up here those old cars are considered landscaping. They do look nice with a fresh coat of snow. And maybe in the summer, some tall wildflowers growing up through where the block used to be. Plus, they block the view of the old refrigerators and dish washers.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 02, 2016 01:11 AM (cm1Bl)

741 >>some of those blue spots surrounded by red in the western US are indian reservations


The rest are University Cities / Towns.


And one is Butte. Because, Butte-ants.

Posted by: garrett at December 02, 2016 01:12 AM (MQZBa)

742 De-sanctuarization and voter ID.

Then review the situation.
Posted by: JEM


Too much bureaucratic inertia and worship of open borders here. CA is and always will be a one-party mal-megopolis.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2016 01:12 AM (1G5R8)

743 #62 shadenboner can be wiped with a picture of the Hildabeast like a cloth and it will become unstuck. Keep a pic in your wallet.

Posted by: torabora at December 02, 2016 01:13 AM (Xmx1l)

744 "Why you would want that is beyond me."

---

Simple.

To emasculate.

Doubtful that a SecDef who's a retired Devil Dog in the mold of Patton, Chester, etc. will cotton to red FMHs while in uniform.

Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 01:13 AM (CRotO)

745 Not enough popcorn in the world.

Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 01:15 AM (CRotO)

746 >> Too much bureaucratic inertia and worship of open
>> borders here. CA is and always will be a one-party
>> mal-megopolis.

It will take some time. It is possible to purge the open-borders thing.

Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2016 01:15 AM (TppKb)

747 744 Simple.
To emasculate.
Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 01:13 AM (CRotO)


To emasculate...your future soldiers and sailors? Who would want that?

Maybe it's true. They're not just the other side...they're destroyers.

Posted by: Splunge at December 02, 2016 01:18 AM (iMxBJ)

748 No, not at all. The bitch of it is when you suddenly find that you need to sell that same house. A good percentage of your potential buyers will find that they can't focus on the house itself because your neighbors have cratered the "curb appeal".

Posted by: Crusader at December 01, 2016 11:16 PM (OXPMi)

Why would I want to sell to some jerk like that with a stick up his ass, and fuck over my former neighbors?

Just yesterday, I went to a neighbor 4 doors away, who has a dead Studebaker on one side of his house, a dead VW microbus on the other, and a dead Chevy pickup in the back yard. And he boosted up his non-dead Chevy pickup, and drove to a shop so I could pickup a heavy sliding-glass patio door. And helped me unload it, when we got back. Salt.Of.The. Earth.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2016 01:19 AM (MiBfH)

749 Maybe it's true. They're not just the other side...they're destroyers.
Posted by: Splunge at December 02, 2016 01:18 AM (iMxBJ)

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Fundamental transformation, baby!

Posted by: King Shit Midas of Putt-Putt, at December 02, 2016 01:20 AM (CRotO)

750 >> a dead VW microbus on the other


Split window?

Salvageable?

Posted by: garrett at December 02, 2016 01:21 AM (MQZBa)

751 Without an HOA, have fun with your neighbors on both sides having 18-wheelers parked on the street and beat-up boats and non-running cars in their driveways.


Posted by: Crusader at December 01, 2016 11:08 PM (OXPMi)

So fucking what? You have a problem with that, Mr. Hotsy Totsy?

Sheesh.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 02, 2016 01:23 AM (Jcg9Q)

752 Not enough popcorn in the world.

Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 01:15 AM (CRotO)

Nosy question:

Do you have a twitter account?

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 02, 2016 01:23 AM (Jcg9Q)

753 The Beer (ampersand) Eat Tavern.....

Can-Am friendly.....

Classy Dive of note......

Posted by: Hillbillyking at December 02, 2016 01:24 AM (NvweJ)

754 Is there such thing as a value-priced Christmas ham from a small vendor somewhere in the South?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2016 01:27 AM (1G5R8)

755 Do you have a twitter account?
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 02, 2016 01:23 AM (Jcg9Q)

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Yep, just to read ace's rants.

And follow Raiders' players.

Posted by: King Shit Midas of Putt-Putt, at December 02, 2016 01:29 AM (CRotO)

756 Off dumbass sock.

Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 01:29 AM (CRotO)

757 Ready for the argument? Here it is. If you're a woman, and it's the middle of the night, and you sit down on the toilet, and the seat is not down, you plunge into the toilet bowl, and...well, I don't know the rest, but it sounds bad.

Posted by: Splunge at December 02, 2016 01:01 AM (iMxBJ)

++++

Just tell her to think of it as a learning experience.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 02, 2016 01:30 AM (R+30W)

758 https://goo.gl/htFwNW

Wasn't the Anti-Defamation League defending Ellison the other day?

Gee, I really wish stuff like this wouldn't show up until AFTER all the Congressional Democrat Jews were forced to go on record for Ellison.

Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2016 01:30 AM (TppKb)

759 Really good show from last tour. Mayer is not getting the spacey jams yet, but this is great music. It is getting better and better....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j-nC05aqQwU

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 02, 2016 01:30 AM (M3DRt)

760 >> Split window?

How many windows?

Those things can be worth a stinking fortune.

Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2016 01:31 AM (TppKb)

761 CA is not salvageable in a time-frame relevant to my likely time-frame consuming oxygen.


"Fix" the massive illegal migrant problem - if you can, and it will take 2 decades or more (and chances of national govt. remaining in sane adult hands for that period are small).


Then what do you do about the Coastal Clueless? The "smart" people ("tech" - meaning mostly marketing logisticians, anymore - doctors, lawyers, etc) who are, as citizens, as dumb as hamsters. Their heads full of idiocy like "climate change" and other science-free cultish reflexes, stunning economic illiteracy, and of course exquisite responsiveness to the dumbest and most upside-down race-baiting.


If CA had the natural attractions, geography, and climate of Kansas, it would have been de-populated and bankrupt 15 years ago. It's one giant tourist restaurant with horrible food and service, and an iconic world-famous view.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 01:31 AM (QDnY+)

762 My grandfather watched football religiously, but he only had one favorite team: whoever was playing the Raiders that week.

He also has toilet paper with Al Davis' face on it. I guess you could say he did not like the man.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 02, 2016 01:31 AM (S2VsH)

763 762 My grandfather watched football religiously, but he only had one favorite team: whoever was playing the Raiders that week.

He also has toilet paper with Al Davis' face on it. I guess you could say he did not like the man.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 02, 2016 01:31 AM (S2VsH)

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LOL!

Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 01:33 AM (CRotO)

764 Yep, just to read ace's rants.

And follow Raiders' players.



Posted by: King Shit Midas of Putt-Putt, at December 02, 2016 01:29 AM (CRotO)

I follow someone that sounds exactly like you.

She made a comment tonight and I thought "damn, that could be SMFH."

I think she's farther south than you though.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 02, 2016 01:33 AM (Jcg9Q)

765 Too much bureaucratic inertia and worship of open borders here. CA is and always will be a one-party mal-megopolis.
----
But think of all the money we'll save by not sending any federal funds to CA.

Posted by: Methos at December 02, 2016 01:33 AM (3Liv/)

766 I rarely tweet.

Not worth the hassle.

Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 01:35 AM (CRotO)

767 They're not just the other side...they're destroyers.

Well, destroyer escorts...

I hear Gen Mattis does not like his nickname. Hope the PE has a few words with him about that. I wouldn't want him to get micro-aggressed over it.

OTOH, as a matter of fact you would like him when he's angry.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 02, 2016 01:35 AM (H5rtT)

768 708
The entire drama is null and void if everyone just puts the lid down on the seat as you should.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2016 12:59 AM (1G5R


I'm a male who lives by myself, so I always left the seat up.

But then I adopted a pair of kittens, and I was afraid they might fall in and drown. So I started keeping the lid closed. They've been full-grown for many years now, but I've kept up that habit. Better safe than sorry.

Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at December 02, 2016 01:36 AM (sdi6R)

769 The smaller a government is the more it directly affects your life, and the poorer the quality of people working for that government. A national government draws talent from an entire country - HOAs draw their talent only from a small neighborhood. An HOA tends to be the most dictatorial government most people will ever encounter, and has the worst sort of people working in it.

Many HOAs are scams enacted to steal houses. No? Wait until you are old, on a fixed income, and can no longer pay for the things the HOA demands.

By the way, that "a lawyer will be provided for you" business only applies in criminal cases - not when you are trying to keep your house from being seized by HOA.




Posted by: An Observation at December 02, 2016 01:37 AM (qAsFD)

770 Mattis?

Micro-aggressed?

lmao

Pretty fucking sure he'll be doing the micro-aggressing.

Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 01:37 AM (CRotO)

771 I rarely tweet.

Not worth the hassle.

Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 01:35 AM (CRotO)

Oh, ok.

I looked, she's in San Antonio.

Salty Black Broad.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 02, 2016 01:37 AM (Jcg9Q)

772 But think of all the money we'll save by not sending any federal funds to CA.
Posted by: Methos


Not discouraging the effort, only eeyoring the result.

CA is the combination of Quint, the aft of the Orca, and Bruce, forever destined to be a bloody gif of tragedy.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2016 01:38 AM (1G5R8)

773 Mad Dog will do *macro*-aggressing, not some sissy micro-shit.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 02, 2016 01:38 AM (DW+jj)

774 768 708
The entire drama is null and void if everyone just puts the lid down on the seat as you should.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2016 12:59 AM (1G5R

I'm a male who lives by myself, so I always left the seat up.

But then I adopted a pair of kittens, and I was afraid they might fall in and drown. So I started keeping the lid closed. They've been full-grown for many years now, but I've kept up that habit. Better safe than sorry.

Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at December 02, 2016 01:36 AM (sdi6R)



I put the lid down because my dog doesn't need another water bowl.

Posted by: buzzion at December 02, 2016 01:39 AM (bMG0w)

775 "Salty Black Broad."

Helllooo!

Posted by: Zombie Chef at December 02, 2016 01:40 AM (S2VsH)

776 I put the lid down because Snakes!

Posted by: garrett at December 02, 2016 01:40 AM (MQZBa)

777 My brother tried to flush a kitten down the toilet when he was one.

My dad rescued the poor thing before he...swirled down.

My mom sent my sis and I to our room for laughing.

Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 01:41 AM (CRotO)

778 >> Then what do you do about the Coastal Clueless?

IOW, me.

I've spent 35 years in the Peninsula/valley tech field, all kinds of friends here. Many maybe most not of my particular shade of skin, but around here generation by generation it's half-this, quarter-this, one-eighth this, the 'white' kid at the park is three-fourths Filipino, the other 'white' kid's parents are Russian Jews, the 'Chinese' kid's parents are ethnic Chinese from Latin America. The Catholic churches are full of Filipinos (and Filipino-blends) and the protestant churches are full of Chinese (and Chinese-blends.)

Most of them are very good people.

But...two factors. Location and UC.

First off, if you move into an area and want to have any influence, you tend to associate with the stronger side that's already there. Especially when you're from a culture that doesn't promote opposition.

Secondly, their kids grow up and go to UC and - not all, not even a majority, but too many - come back corrupted.

Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2016 01:41 AM (TppKb)

779 Pretty fucking sure he'll be doing the micro-aggressing.
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I don't really see that guy doing 'micro' anything.

Posted by: Methos at December 02, 2016 01:41 AM (3Liv/)

780 salty black broad, huh?

yeah, so not me...lol.

Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 01:42 AM (CRotO)

781 Methos, an Armageddon over "sanctuary" lawlessness and federal $$$$ (for major culprits, esp. CA) would be so great I wouldn't be able to sleep for days.


But. Not gonna happen. At least in my estimation.


Not because Trump and Sessions don't have the stones (though I think Trump in "president of all the people" mode would, actually, not measure up on this sort of thing).


But Congress. Almost nobody now serving in Congress got there through leadership, or accomplishment, of any kind whatsoever. Apart from fund-raising and being elected. In the House, in mostly gerrymandered "safe" seats where the party primary IS the election.


Some of our most distinguished regular day-time commenters really don't seem to understand how bad things are. The GOP in power (outside the WH) IS the GOP of Yeb! and Rubio, or Kasich - not Trump.


We didn't get where we are, nationally, because the national GOP stood for anything or (in recent years) even wielded their power in normal, traditional fashion. They hid, deep - to the point of (incredibly) just junking the appropriations process, for the first time in our history.


Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 01:42 AM (QDnY+)

782 >> I put the lid down because my dog doesn't need
>> another water bowl.

This.

Especially when no one flushes for six hours.

Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2016 01:43 AM (TppKb)

783 My brother tried to flush a kitten down the toilet when he was one.

My dad rescued the poor thing before he...swirled down.

My mom sent my sis and I to our room for laughing.
Posted by: SMFH


I know a sister of a friend, straight up, who tried to 'dry' her pet parakeet in a microwave.

... yes, my head bobbed like a parakeet hearing that.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2016 01:45 AM (1G5R8)

784 Hell, these stupid cats of mine all drink from the damn toilet. It was one cat who started it, the others noticed it, and now they all do it. They get mad if the lid is down.

And one of them gets fascinated by the use of the toilet. Damn fool came in one time when I was about to pee -- doesn't like closed doors. This is cat trait -- they hate closed doors, and if one doesn't shut the bathroom door good, they'll push in. Just because they saw me close it.

Anyway, the fool does that, and I say okay, if you want to watch, have at it. He comes in and I start peeing. He comes over, puts his paws on the rim and just watches me pee. I flush it, and that fascinates the hell out of him.

Many times, when he hears it flush, he comes in to watch.

There's a Youtube video of a cat who learned to flush the toilet, and would continuously flush the toilet just to watch the water swirl.

This cat of mine would do that, I think, if he was smart enough to figure it out.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 02, 2016 01:45 AM (DW+jj)

785 @759....

Gene,

Gonna see Bob in Asheville next Sat.
Thought JM poured his soul into it.
The essence of GD is alive an well.

Truth resonates.

Posted by: Sunshine Dream Terra Alta at December 02, 2016 01:45 AM (NvweJ)

786 Posted by: Methos at December 02, 2016 01:33 AM

You forget how much money is made in California. Believe it or not, most years California is a "giver" state to the Fed, rather than a "taker". They take plenty, but they give crazy more. Only when there are natural disasters in Cali does this change.

Of course, California IS drowning in crazy debt, but thats from all the bonds that both the legslature AND the dogshit-stupid electorate keep voting for year after year. California may very well go bankrupt (particularly when the pension bomb blows), but the tax base is still giving more to Uncle Sam than he's giving back on the whole.

Posted by: Zombie Chef at December 02, 2016 01:46 AM (S2VsH)

787 @439 Anyway, one thing in the Beevor book was a reference to all-black "tank destroyer" units in the Ardennes fighting. There were two kinds of such units - those with armored vehicles with mounted guns, and those with towed guns. Not sure which kind the black units were, but hoping the current book will have more detail.
----------------

Probably the most famous black ground unit was an independent tank battalion. The 761st Independent Tank Battalion was one of three black tank battalions (though one of them might not have seen combat), and was part of Patton's Third Army. I think there was some discussion about where to assign the unit when it first arrived in Europe due to the racial issues of the time, but Patton was quite happy to grab it when given the opportunity. As far as he was concerned, the only important thing to him was whether the men could fight. And they proved that he'd made the right choice in picking them.

Unfortunately, the unit's nickname was 'The Black Panthers', which has some unfortunate links these days. I also once had someone confuse it with the US 66th Infantry Division, which also had the same nickname, and apparently wasn't as good in combat.

Posted by: junior at December 02, 2016 01:46 AM (ff27+)

788 Off, sock.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 02, 2016 01:47 AM (S2VsH)

789 >> But Congress.

This is one area where I'd like to see Trump and Sessions go the Full Obama and just tell Congress "you give us a law or we'll do it without you, you put on the kneepads for the last bunch and you can keep them on now if you like."

Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2016 01:47 AM (TppKb)

790 Comcast here is showing a child abduction alert until 7:44 am. Why is there a time limit?

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 02, 2016 01:48 AM (M3DRt)

791 >> You forget how much money is made in California.

It goes out in Federal income taxes, and the mechanisms by which any of it goes back are in Federal law.

Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2016 01:49 AM (TppKb)

792 "Salty Black Broad."

Helllooo!


Posted by: Zombie Chef at December 02, 2016 01:40 AM (S2VsH)

That's what I said once, but I think she's married.

She's also a 36F.

Yes, I asked.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 02, 2016 01:50 AM (Jcg9Q)

793 Comcast here is showing a child abduction alert until 7:44 am. Why is there a time limit?
Posted by: Gene Parmesan


Podesta's pizza time?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2016 01:50 AM (1G5R8)

794 Mayer knows he is a kid in a candy store with Dead songs.

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 02, 2016 01:52 AM (M3DRt)

795 Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2016 01:49 AM

Precisely. I'm just pointing out that shedding California from the Union is not likely to create a net-gain in tax income (or savings, however you look at it) to the Fed, as Methos suggested.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 02, 2016 01:53 AM (S2VsH)

796 >> She's also a 36F.

I hope her health insurance pays for chiropractic and orthopedic surgery.

Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2016 01:53 AM (TppKb)

797 Zombie Chef, CA has nearly a third of the nation's welfare bill, and 12% of the population. There is no social order without massive, massive, massive disproportionate federal welfare $$$ to CA's massive welfare population (a significant part illegal).


That gets cut or interrupted, big trouble.


Also CA's tax base is going to the limits of "unsustainable" (ha!) extremes - that is a tiny % of households provide most of the revenues. I cited the leg analyst's estimate from a few years ago about half the state deficit resulting from the departure of just 5K households (in a state of 32M+).


The replacement of the productive middle class with impossibly over-compensated govt. employees ensures two things: stupid, NPR-level political mindsets - and insolvency.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 01:53 AM (QDnY+)

798 >> Precisely. I'm just pointing out that shedding
>> California from the Union is not likely to create a
>> net-gain in tax income (or savings, however you
>> look at it) to the Fed, as Methos suggested.

But it provides a nifty lever for the Feds to pull in making California behave.

Posted by: JEM at December 02, 2016 01:54 AM (TppKb)

799 Split window?

Salvageable?

Posted by: garrett at December 02, 2016 01:21 AM (MQZBa)

No, it's a '71. One of the first full-windshield vans, and the last year that used an "upright" 1600 engine instead of the wretched 1800 or 2 liter suitcase money pit. Guy is fixing it up to sell, and figures he will make good bank on it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2016 01:56 AM (MiBfH)

800 Ah sorry. I was not reading up far enough. Thought it was discussion of California's secession movement, not just a "lets withhold funds until they cry uncle" discussion.

Fuck it. Need to wildpinkle anyway.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 02, 2016 01:56 AM (S2VsH)

801 784 Hell, these stupid cats of mine all drink from the damn toilet. It was one cat who started it, the others noticed it, and now they all do it.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 02, 2016 01:45 AM (DW+jj)


That's the case with my water glass on the nightstand next to the bed. Somewhere along the line it turned into a communal water glass.

Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at December 02, 2016 01:56 AM (sdi6R)

802 I was right on the verge of finding the Santa with the bag of cash, but the snipers scared me off.

Posted by: Hank at December 02, 2016 01:57 AM (fBqWx)

803 Oh, and rhomboid, since you asked -

Don't know a link to the photo up top off the top of my head. But doing a search for "Easter Eggs for Hitler" should turn it up. I've looked for it in the past, and iirc it wasn't hard to find.

Posted by: junior at December 02, 2016 01:58 AM (ff27+)

804 Junior - thanks! I need to look into that topic (black combat units in WWII) after I get through my Battle of the Bulge and pre-war Soviet "modules" (in my self-imposed study course).


That unit designation sounds about right, though I vaguely recall the "tank destroyer" unit in the book being engaged prior to 3rd Army making it up to the fight (and also to the east, not around Bastogne, the target of Patton's efforts).

Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 01:59 AM (QDnY+)

805 @797 Zombie Chef, CA has nearly a third of the nation's welfare bill, and 12% of the population. There is no social order without massive, massive, massive disproportionate federal welfare $$$ to CA's massive welfare population (a significant part illegal).
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It's going to be real interesting here in CA when the Republicans in DC drop the hammer on the sanctuary cities.

Posted by: junior at December 02, 2016 02:00 AM (ff27+)

806 Fucking hell, just saw a social media post from a former work colleague of mine who has a six-year-old son in a public school. It said this:

"I love that Cody's 1st grade teacher told the class today that they are not allowed to have a holiday party before winter break because Islam does not celebrate Xmas. Learning about other cultures is soooooo important and I'm glad his teacher is starting them early."

I thought for one brief moment that surely she was being sarcastic, but no, as her other posts revealed, she was totally serious, as all her other posts are similarly PC.

Can you imagine being GLAD that your child had his dreams crushed and heart broken just to satiate the Demon of Political Correctness?

First they said, "You can't have Christmas parties anymore -- you have to call them 'Holiday parties.' " Now they are saying, "You can't even have nondenominational 'Holiday parties' anymore, because some backwards-ass medieval death cult doesn't use the Gregorian calendar and so doesn't have a winter holiday of any kind."

Most parents would blow a gasket in rage. My friends dance in glee that their children live in a grey joyless PC hell.

Posted by: zombie at December 02, 2016 02:00 AM (jBuUi)

807 I'm with buzzion here. Keep the toilet seat and lid down to keep the dog from using it as a water dish.

Reductio ad absurdum: a single guy, living alone, does he leave the seat up, or down, and does he fall in the bowl if he sits down to take a dump, after having left the seat up? No, I didn't think so, either. I look before I crouch.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2016 02:00 AM (MiBfH)

808 The replacement of the productive middle class with impossibly over-compensated govt. employees ensures two things: stupid, NPR-level political mindsets - and insolvency.
Posted by: rhomboid


"Young man," said ... Adam Smith, "there is a great deal of ruin in a nation."

The distopian fever dreams of the Left encapsulated.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2016 02:01 AM (1G5R8)

809 Junior, Tim in Illinois actually found and linked the National Archives source for the photo, above.


Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 02:01 AM (QDnY+)

810 I thought Free Tibet was exaggerating.. That was crap.

Posted by: Gene Parmesan at December 02, 2016 02:02 AM (M3DRt)

811 @804 That unit designation sounds about right, though I vaguely recall the "tank destroyer" unit in the book being engaged prior to 3rd Army making it up to the fight (and also to the east, not around Bastogne, the target of Patton's efforts).
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The 761st was a tank battalion, not a TD battalion. So you're thinking of a different unit. I think I've heard about the unit you mean, though. It was one of a few black TD units that were used as OP-FOR for tankers in training back in the states, and those units were eventually given the chance to go overseas. IIRC, because of the amount of time they'd spent in training, they ended up doing better than the typical "new" unit.

Posted by: junior at December 02, 2016 02:04 AM (ff27+)

812 Am I the only person who was forced to read The Pushcart Wars?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2016 02:05 AM (1G5R8)

813 zombie, your horrifying story is one reason for my indomitable pessimism.




Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 02:05 AM (QDnY+)

814 @806 Can you imagine being GLAD that your child had his dreams crushed and heart broken just to satiate the Demon of Political Correctness?
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That's what happens when your kid is your trophy.

Posted by: junior at December 02, 2016 02:06 AM (ff27+)

815 @781 I think everyone except the GOPe gets how useless the national party is. And I also think that it is important to note that the Republican Party is not the party of Trump, it is the party he is in. (Winning will change that. He wins more and more and it will swing to him. ).

The States are what people should look at. Virginia for example is a blue state nationally but has a vibrant state party that fights back and wins.

State legislature is Republican and I say the Congressional Republicans should road trip to Richmond to watch how it's done.

Posted by: blaster at December 02, 2016 02:07 AM (stTTh)

816 Evening everyone I hope yall are doing great.

Just wanted to pop in and say I couldn't be more pleased with Mad Dog Mattis as SecDef.

Carry on.

Posted by: thathalfricanplayafromthehimalayas - be water my friend at December 02, 2016 02:07 AM (R5HRU)

817 Am I the only person who was forced to read The Pushcart Wars?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2016 02:05 AM (1G5R

Well, I have never read it. So, there's one data point in support of your theory.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2016 02:08 AM (MiBfH)

818 Junior, that sounds like the Tuskegee Fliers (so much extra time in training, they were much better when deployed than the average unit).


I should do the research myself, but I'm very unclear on the non-towed "tank destroyer" concept. There was a photo in the Beevor Battle of the Bulge book of a tank (essentially) labeled a "tank destroyer". The towed ones were just 37mm or whatever field artillery for direct fire against armor - but I had not seen what I would call a tank called a "tank destroyer" before.


Maybe you can edumucate me.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 02:08 AM (QDnY+)

819 Precisely. I'm just pointing out that shedding California from the Union
is not likely to create a net-gain in tax income (or savings, however
you look at it) to the Fed, as Methos suggested.
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I wasn't suggesting secession/expulsion (at least not tonight), just cutting off federal funds for *whatever* when they continue to not comply with immigration law.

Posted by: Methos at December 02, 2016 02:08 AM (3Liv/)

820 813. What can't go on forever, won't.

If things keep up like this, however, the resentment built up, combined with the measures necessary to restore something like sanity, will be terrifying to behold.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 02, 2016 02:10 AM (c6C3U)

821 The towed ones were just 37mm or whatever field artillery for direct fire against armor - but I had not seen what I would call a tank called a "tank destroyer" before.


Maybe you can edumucate me.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 02:08 AM (QDnY+)

Maybe I am all wet here, but I thought a "tank destroyer" was a tank chassis fitted with a large non-swivelling gun. The Germans had one such called a "Marder", IIRC.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2016 02:11 AM (MiBfH)

822 Posted by: Methos at December 02, 2016 02:08 AM

I know. Already apologized for it above.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 02, 2016 02:13 AM (S2VsH)

823 Methinks Mad Dog Sessions is going to get serious with the sanctuary cities. Me further thinks they'll pick one out to make an example of right off the bat to show the others what will happen to them.

Which one, I'm not sure. But SF would be my pick.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 02, 2016 02:14 AM (DW+jj)

824
Just wanted to pop in and say I couldn't be more pleased with Mad Dog Mattis as SecDef.

Carry on.
Posted by: thathalfricanplayafromthehimalayas


So what about every other thing posited? Are you saying you don't need to give a maniacally possessed opinion of every single rumor ????

THat's just irresponsible!!!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2016 02:14 AM (1G5R8)

825 Which one, I'm not sure. But SF would be my pick.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 02, 2016 02:14 AM (DW+jj)

Find a way to federally regulate cable cars, and then shut them down for safety violations.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2016 02:15 AM (MiBfH)

826 That's the case with my water glass on the nightstand next to the bed. Somewhere along the line it turned into a communal water glass.
Posted by: rickl


Stay asleep, stay asleep, la-la-la-lah-laaaah.

Posted by: cockroaches drinking from rickl's h20 at December 02, 2016 02:16 AM (1G5R8)

827 Posted by: zombie at December 02, 2016 02:00 AM

My 6 year old goes to Catholic school. I'm not even Catholic, but seeing how that school operates (I also volunteer there), I wouldn't do it any other way.

The California public schools (even in "Republican" areas) scare the hell out of me.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 02, 2016 02:16 AM (S2VsH)

828 good points, blaster.


Those of us languishing in s**t-holes like CA (update: now BOTH houses of legislature have Dem super-majorities, meaning, literally, one-party rule - and the possibilities are nauseating and infuriating) of course have no state-level comfort.


I haven't bothered to follow the fine details of the atrocities in Sacramento, but gather that Brown (loathsome arrogant dumbass he has become, notwithstanding) has actually MODERATED the fiscal insanity of his party.


Now, he faces the prospect of being over-ridden. And he'll be gone before long (replaced, in this one-party state, from among a more radical member of the Supreme Soviet of Dem figures, most likely).


Since the teacher's unions run the state - along with a remarkably cretinized "educated" electorate - the sky's the limit.


Low % alternative scenario: actual tough fiscal action to curb lawless indulgence of mass illegal migration comes from DC, along with SCOTUS smack-downs on all sorts of CA atrocities and work-arounds.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 02:17 AM (QDnY+)

829 AOP, I think you're on the right track (re "tank destroyer").


Maybe I was too confusulated by an erroneous caption in the Beevor Ardennes book.


Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 02:20 AM (QDnY+)

830 SITE ON 26 JANUARY 1945,
IN ORDER TO PUSH BACK AN ENEMY COUNTERATTACK. FOR THIS ACTION HE WAS DECORATED WITH THE HIGHEST AMERICAN AND FRENCH HONORS. VISITOR, RESPECT THIS MEMORIAL AND FORGET NOT THAT THESE SOLDIERS HAVE DIED SO THAT YOU LIVE FREE.

Bonus points for finding where the signs are from....

If ya G-oog,

Check out, "standwheretheyfought.jimbo dot com"...

Posted by: Hillbillyking at December 02, 2016 02:20 AM (NvweJ)

831 off the top of my head, "non-towed" tank destroyers were either half-track 75mm guns (think Kelly's Heroes images) or M-10 and later open turreted AFVs....

at least for US use... the rest of it gets a tad more complex.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 02, 2016 02:20 AM (84In0)

832 rhomboid,

I think the prison union still gives more money than the teachers union (that's certainly the way it was a few years ago). That's why even in liberal California, three strikes probably isn't going away any time soon.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 02, 2016 02:21 AM (S2VsH)

833 Well, I am out for the night. Be well, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2016 02:22 AM (MiBfH)

834 "non-towed"

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self-propelled

Posted by: SMFH at December 02, 2016 02:23 AM (CRotO)

835 publius, you think purty.


Yes, the right approach would be to "kill the chicken to scare the monkey," in the old Chinese saying.


But I'd pick LA vs. SF. I think more federal $$$ involved (a LOT more).


LA, and NYC.


OK, enough decent inexpensive Spanish tempranillo in me to do this, NY Post headline, March 2017: "Trump to NY/LA: Drop Dead".


Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 02:23 AM (QDnY+)

836 *flips open WWII stats book*

U.S. Tank destroyers

Carriage M10
76mm gun
7000 produced

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2016 02:26 AM (ZO497)

837 Thanks horde, getting the tank destroyer thing clear again. Yes, SMFH, self-propelled (though I've always associated that with conventional artillery, M109s and M110s from the modern era).


Anyway, hoping "Steel and Ice" will have details or links on the black tank destroyer unit.


Hillbillyking, intrigued by your comment, but your sven-like presentation exceeds my decrypt capabilities. I didn't serve in Hut Six.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 02:27 AM (QDnY+)

838 Rhomboid - if its Castillo San Simon, I'm gonna be worried.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 02, 2016 02:28 AM (c6C3U)

839 836 *flips open WWII stats book*

U.S. Tank destroyers

Carriage M10
76mm gun
7000 produced
Posted by: Mike Hammer


Super-detailed essay about them here, with loads of pix:

http://panzerserra.blogspot.com/2013/01/m10-3-inch-gun-motor-carriage-wolverine.html?m=0

Posted by: zombie at December 02, 2016 02:30 AM (jBuUi)

840 Easter eggs for Hitler, ice cubes for Tojo:

http://tinyurl.com/jn54fen



I first saw this ad in a 1942 Fortune magazine I found at a yard sale in LA back in the 80's. It's stuck in my mind all these years. Here you see it in Life magazine.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 02, 2016 02:31 AM (tHwdc)

841 RustyNail, oh yes, I left out the prison guard's union in the interest of brevity ("why don't you do that more often?" come the shouts from the horde).


I recall that Gray Davis's recall was in part linked to his outlandish bribery to that one, 6K-member outfit.


Funny, two months ago on range day I opened up a single pistol lane on the trap range (used when the 3 handgun-suitable ranges are busy with police and military, as they were). He'd been a guard on death row at San Quentin for 10 years.


Never thought to ask him about guard union things. He had a very interesting target H ampersand K 9mm I'd never seen.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 02:31 AM (QDnY+)

842 U.S. Tank destroyers

Carriage M10
76mm gun
7000 produced

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2016 02:26 AM (ZO497)



What about the number of M3s(105) and m36s(?)?

Posted by: somejoe at December 02, 2016 02:32 AM (22if9)

843 Am I the only person who was forced to read The Pushcart Wars?

Posted by: weft cut-loop


I think I read it by choice, cause the cover art looked funky ...

Posted by: Adriane the iterary Critic ... at December 02, 2016 02:33 AM (AoK0a)

844 Well yeah Cali is as Monty might say BONED.

Hard to believe it went for Bush I.

Posted by: blaster at December 02, 2016 02:35 AM (stTTh)

845 Palp - no, something labeled "Volver". 13 bucks. Got some high ratings from Spectator and wine store owner I trust recommended it as a value. It's fine, but nothing I'll remember in a year (unlike some stuff he's provided).

Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 02:37 AM (QDnY+)

846 Then again I did read Daniel Pinkwater, The Snarkout Boys and the Avocado of Death.

So it all even'd out, i suppose.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2016 02:38 AM (1G5R8)

847 What about the number of M3s(105) and m36s(?)?
Posted by: somejoe
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got no data

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2016 02:41 AM (ZO497)

848 @821
Maybe I am all wet here, but I thought a "tank destroyer" was a tank chassis fitted with a large non-swivelling gun. The Germans had one such called a "Marder", IIRC.
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For other countries, this is more or less correct. Though the vehicle didn't have to be a tank chassis. Any vehicle would do. The important thing was that the tank destroyer would take an anti-tank gun, and make it mobile. In many cases, this was done also because a turretless vehicle hull could carry a bigger gun than a turret could. Most such vehicles mounted light armor, though there were exceptions like the Elephant, Jagdpanther, and Jagdtiger.

The Americans were slightly different...

The US went into combat with the Tank Destroyer Doctrine that you might be familiar with. Tanks go after infantry, and tank destroyers kill the tanks. And the idea isn't entirely without merit. The best gun for use against an enemy tank is a long barreled gun that can fire high-velocity anti-tank rounds. But you need more propellant to fire a round out of that gun, which means that your high-explosive rounds aren't as powerful. So short barrel means worse against tanks, but better against infantry. In practice, of course, it was a mess. But in any event, US tanks were meant to focus on infantry. US tank destroyers were to use specially developed tactics that they trained on to located and ambush enemy armored formations.

The original US tank destroyers were kit-bashes just like those used by everyone else - a halftrack with a 75mm gun mounted over the cab, and a 3/4 ton Dodge truck with a 37mm gun facing to the rear. But after that...

Unlike everyone else, the US purposely designed three vehicles from the ground up as their "tank destroyers". The first of these was the M-10. It was based off of a highly modified Sherman chassis with lighter armor, and carried a 3-inch (76.2mm) long-barreled gun mounted in an open-top turret. The third and final US tank destroyer was the M36 Jackson. It was very similar to the M10, but had a different turret that mounted a 90mm long-barreled gun in an open-top turret.

And finally, we get to my favorite - the M18 Hellcat. The Hellcat was a unique vehicle with a unique chassis built specifically for it. It mounted a true 76mm long-barreled gun in an open-top turret. And while the M10 and the M36 had light armor, the armor on the Hellcat was extremely thin. The reason for this was because of its speed. The Hellcat was likely the fastest fully-tracked vehicle in World War 2. And it was the fastest fully-tracked vehicle mass-produced by the US up until the introduction of the M1 Abrams (note that the M18 still has a higher official road speed than the M1, because the M1 uses an artificial governor to limit its road speed).

Those are the self-propelled tank destroyers.

The self-propelled tank destroyers were fairly successful. But there were never enough of them. So the US decided to expand the doctrine. The infantry was using 37mm and 57mm anti-tank guns (that, incidentally, proved to be less than effective...). To expand the tank destroyer doctrine, special units consisting of towed 3-inch anti-tank guns were deployed. These units were supposed to use the same sorts of tactics as the self-propelled tank destroyers to locate enemy armored formations and ambush them.

As you might expect, the towed anti-tank formations weren't as effective. The experiment was ultimately judged a failure, and the units likely would have been rolled up at the end of the war even if the US had stuck with the tank destroyer doctrine (which it didn't).

Posted by: junior at December 02, 2016 02:41 AM (ff27+)

849 845. Castilli San Simon is the cheapest wine I've ever seen. Three bucks a bottle, and exactly as good as you'd expect.

Heh.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 02, 2016 02:41 AM (c6C3U)

850 FYI the link in #840 has the entire issue of Life for Oct 12 1942. Modern snowflakes would be so triggered by the bellicose language in the advertisements alone that they'd need fainting couches. A cultural time capsule.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 02, 2016 02:43 AM (tHwdc)

851 @828
Now, he faces the prospect of being over-ridden. And he'll be gone before long (replaced, in this one-party state, from among a more radical member of the Supreme Soviet of Dem figures, most likely).
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Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom is the most likely replacement when Brown is finished. And he's so bad that letting anyone other than Zombie describe the potential catastrophe Newsom represents is probably not a good idea.

He is, incidentally, also the former mayor of San Francisco.

Posted by: junior at December 02, 2016 02:45 AM (ff27+)

852 junior, bravo!


I hereby bestow on your the ONT title of "Anna Puma of Armor".


Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 02:46 AM (QDnY+)

853 @844 Hard to believe it went for Bush I.
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We still had a Republican governor back then. And the Republicans even managed to get control of the State Assembly right around that time. It didn't last very long, though.

Posted by: junior at December 02, 2016 02:46 AM (ff27+)

854 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 02, 2016 02:41 AM (c6C3U)

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LOL

Posted by: 2 Buck Chuck at December 02, 2016 02:47 AM (84In0)

855 Knew a red army vet who was an engineer/sapper in the GPW. He and his boys shat themselves every time they had to go tank-hunting. No tank destroyers, no antitank guns, you see. Molotovs, satchel charges, mines, a few grenades, and submachine guns

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 02, 2016 02:49 AM (c6C3U)

856 @852 I hereby bestow on your the ONT title of "Anna Puma of Armor".
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Heh. Thanks.

I'm sure Anna could probably add a thing or two. But I've read up on this a bit due to my wargaming.

Posted by: junior at December 02, 2016 02:50 AM (ff27+)

857 Oh yes, Newsom as governor, with a super-majority Dem legislature, pretty much defines the real life version of "hey let's to do this and see what happens!" of American politics.


I can't bear to look, so I have no sense whatsoever of the following: chance of Newsom being edged out of the governor's nomination by Villaragosaragoisawhatever (mayor of LA)?


Perhaps our desperately anticipated Armageddon between the Trump administration and SF or LA, and the outcome thereof, would affect which pathetic disastrous dumbass gets the nod?

Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 02:50 AM (QDnY+)

858 If anyone is still awake, I want to call your attention to something appalling. You know that friend of mine I mention from time to time who is just a terrible sinner and to whom I minister virtue just informed me of something.

There is this awful pornographic actress named Darcie Dolce who is now something appalling called "Twisty's Treat of the Month". That friend says she has a pair of the most luscious boobehs he's ever seen. Pendulous and they hang just perfectly.

I mention this so you all can be as appalled as I am. Make America Great Again.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 02, 2016 02:54 AM (DW+jj)

859 I can attest that receiving SSDI is a poor replacement for working. I would give my left nut to be able to work.

Posted by: USNtakim at December 02, 2016 12:48 AM (hMqvx)


I'm on SSDI, too, and I can still work. Problem is, finding an employer who doesn't mind me taking 3 to 4 hour naps after lunch, not showing up for work because 'it's not a good day' or that I may be unavailable due to being in the ER/hospital. Oh , and my CRS Disease (Can't Remember Shit) is progressing. Now if I can just find the right employer. . . .

Posted by: RickZ at December 02, 2016 02:54 AM (VV6/D)

860 @855 Knew a red army vet who was an engineer/sapper in the GPW. He and his boys shat themselves every time they had to go tank-hunting. No tank destroyers, no antitank guns, you see. Molotovs, satchel charges, mines, a few grenades, and submachine guns
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Yeah, the Soviets got the short end of the stick when it came to infantry versus tanks. The US had the bazooka pretty much from the time the troops first landed in Africa. The Germans had the Panzerfaust not long after, and another weapon that was basically an even bigger bazooka called the Panzerschreck. And the British had a spring-loaded thing called the Piat.

The Soviets had anti-tank rifles.

I'd disagree about the tank destroyers bit, though. The Soviets had tank destroyers, and some of them were quite powerful. But they called it all self-propelled artillery, even though all of it was designed for direct fire (which is the opposite of how we think of artillery in the West).

The Soviets also had some good anti-tank guns, which is something that the US never really had.

Posted by: junior at December 02, 2016 02:55 AM (ff27+)

861 @837....

Rhom,

Audie Murphy......from a memorial at the spot that he Earned the MOH.

He jumped into a burning tank destroyer, his crazy brave selflessness, and saved everyone. By killiin the enemy completely.

Heroic Madness.......

A Legend.




Posted by: Hillbillyking at December 02, 2016 02:55 AM (NvweJ)

862 860. Oh, the rwds had them, and in quantity. But this poor bastards unit didn't.

Convicts, dontcha know.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 02, 2016 02:58 AM (c6C3U)

863 Well Palp you've reminded me of yet another area in which I need to remedy my abject ignorance - Soviet man-portable anti-armor gizmos.


Of course by whatever combination of means the Soviet forces found a solution for German armor (the T-34s did pretty well).


Funny, this week my ear-worm has been "Sacred War" by the Red Army Choir (yes, I have rather different ear-worm tunes than often discussed at the HQ). Appalled to not know it when it intrigued me watching this year's Victory Day events in Moscow on Russian TV. Well, I know it now.


Lots of good new vocabulary, too. "Scum of mankind" was not one I'd picked up in my studies or time in the USSR.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 02:58 AM (QDnY+)

864 @857 I can't bear to look, so I have no sense whatsoever of the following: chance of Newsom being edged out of the governor's nomination by Villaragosaragoisawhatever (mayor of LA)?
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The northerners *always* win the Dem primary. So I kinda doubt it. Villaragosa might manage to win in a straight state-wide (i.e. two Dems in the general) election because he's from LA, and has a D next to his name instead of an R (which was Cooley's problem when he ran for State AG after serving as LA County DA). But aside from that, Newsome's probably got the spot.

And that's probably really, really bad. Based on what little I know about the guy, I suspect he makes Sanders look like a Reaganite, and would happily force the Folsom Street Fair on every city in the US.

Posted by: junior at December 02, 2016 02:59 AM (ff27+)

865 Audie Murphy......from a memorial at the spot that he Earned the MOH.

He jumped into a burning tank destroyer, his crazy brave selflessness, and saved everyone. By killiin the enemy completely.

Heroic Madness.......

A Legend.

Posted by: Hillbillyking


All 5'6" of him.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2016 03:00 AM (1G5R8)

866 @862 Convicts, dontcha know.
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Ah. Penal battalion.

Yeah, I know about those guys. Sucked to be them.

Incidentally, the commander of one of those battalions wrote a book about it. It's called 'Penal Strike'.

Posted by: junior at December 02, 2016 03:02 AM (ff27+)

867 Palp - a penal battalion? Cool!


Will have to continue this tomorrow, off to dig into "Steel and Ice" about the Bulge.


Junior, thanks for putting us some good knowledge. Gaming, or whatever, you have some granularity on this stuff that is valuable. And as a parting comment, I think I read (either Beevor/Ardennes or Kershaw/end of the war) that the Panzerschreck was crap, but the Panzerfaust could be pretty effective.


Bis morgen, alles.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2016 03:03 AM (QDnY+)

868 Incidentally, the commander of one of those battalions wrote a book about it. It's called 'Penal Strike'.


Heh-heh, heh-heh, .. heh.

Posted by: Beevis at December 02, 2016 03:04 AM (22if9)

869 But I've read up on this a bit due to my wargaming.

Posted by: junior at December 02, 2016 02:50 AM (ff27+)

One good source is the Chapter H notes in the Advanced Squad Leader Rulesbook.

IIRC The British used the M10 also and mounted the same 76mm gun as the Sherman Firefly on it. Deadly even against Pathers and Tigers at medium range.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 02, 2016 03:04 AM (d76uN)

870 843 Am I the only person who was forced to read The Pushcart Wars?

Posted by: weft cut-loop

I think I read it by choice, cause the cover art looked funky ...
Posted by: Adriane the iterary Critic ... at December 02, 2016 02:33 AM (AoK0a)

Read it, and loved it. So there.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 02, 2016 03:06 AM (cm1Bl)

871 Anatoli explained tabke-hunting. The goal was simple - find a tank, immobilize it, set it on fire, then kill the crew. As a practical matter, this was far more difficult for a unit of ten or so starving men to do.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 02, 2016 03:08 AM (c6C3U)

872 @869
One good source is the Chapter H notes in the Advanced Squad Leader Rulesbook.
------------------

Sort of.

I read them way back in the day. Then I mentioned the bit about what the Soviet locals supposedly thought the stenciled USA stood for (according to the Chapter H notes) to some Russians online, and they told me that was completely wrong.

Speaking of which...

For anyone who's interested in Lend-Lease M4 Shermans fighting for the Soviet Army, do a search online for Victor Loza. He's a famous Soviet tank ace who spent a lot of time in Shermans, and loved them. Actually thought they were safer than T-34s, which I've mentioned a time or two to people who bring up the "Ronson" bit. There's a lengthy piece by him talking about his experiences that's on-line and in English. Very much worth reading.

Posted by: junior at December 02, 2016 03:09 AM (ff27+)

873 871. Said it was most dangerous once you'd stopped the tank. The crew inside knew what was coming, and fought like hell, to the last bullet in the commander's pistol, to try to stop it. Lotta casualties among tank-hunters.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 02, 2016 03:11 AM (c6C3U)

874 I didn't say it was the best source just a good one. There are some holes in their notes especially with 1939-40 Polish and French notes.

Generally reliable though.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 02, 2016 03:11 AM (d76uN)

875 Drake-esq Hovertanks are the key.
Till next time y'all....
Have a goodone.......

Posted by: Hillbillyking at December 02, 2016 03:13 AM (NvweJ)

876 if you are hunting tanks, once the engine compartment is on fire, your j*b is done.

an immobile tank is a dead one.

Posted by: 2 Buck Chuck at December 02, 2016 03:16 AM (84In0)

877 off stupid non-tank hunting sock.


Posted by: redc1c4, 11H10, long long ago at December 02, 2016 03:18 AM (84In0)

878 so, anyway...

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 02, 2016 03:19 AM (84In0)

879 876. He said it wasn't always easy to get the things burning right. And sometimes they'd get hep to what was happening and make life difficult for you. And Fritz was slick - sometimes they'd put sand bags and water cannisters on the outside.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 02, 2016 03:19 AM (c6C3U)

880 Infantry tank hunting without rockets or recoilless weapons - not a job I'd want.

But, yeah. Once they stopped it, it was only a matter of how long it would take and how many of his boys he'd lose in the process.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 02, 2016 03:23 AM (c6C3U)

881 www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/ policy/army/fm/21-75/Apph.htm

i 'member this from back in the day.

life expectancy?

i had it....

not.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 02, 2016 03:26 AM (84In0)

882 The Russians were using a 14.5 mm AT rifle during the whole war. At close range they could penetrate the armor of the anything based on the Pz4 or Pz3 chassis if they hit the right spot.

That spot generally being in between the road wheels or the back of the vehicle. I'm talking extremely close range. 10-15 yards. IIRC selected teams were trained to aim at the front of the tracks to hit them and cause a break.

If you take a look at pics of german panzers captured or recovered from the battle field, quite often you will see one or both sides without tracks.

Like was said above, a immobile tank is a dead one.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 02, 2016 03:29 AM (d76uN)

883 there's another reason for the decline in nfl ratings, besides left-wing genuflection and overexposure, and that's mediocrity. with the exception of new england and the surprise in dallas, nearly all the rest hover around .500 or lower.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 02, 2016 03:29 AM (WTSFk)

884 882. Anatoli described attacking the tracks as well. Mines on boards - you'd drag them right in the anticipated direction of travel after the others would spray their smgs to get the crew to button up. Blow a track and then go to work. 'Rabotit,' as they said.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 02, 2016 03:33 AM (c6C3U)

885 Surprised no one has mentioned the Soviet attempt to train Dogs to blow up German Tanks.

Woof!

Boom!!

It didn't work out in real life.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 02, 2016 03:36 AM (d76uN)

886 "...nearly all the rest hover around .500 or lower."
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 02, 2016 03:29 AM (WTSFk)

---

*Ahem*

Posted by: Raider Nation - Sin City? at December 02, 2016 03:36 AM (CRotO)

887 9-2

Posted by: Raider Nation - Sin City? at December 02, 2016 03:37 AM (CRotO)

888 "nearly" an escape hatch.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 02, 2016 03:37 AM (WTSFk)

889 sorry!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 02, 2016 03:38 AM (WTSFk)

890 No problemo.

Posted by: Raider Nation - Sin City? at December 02, 2016 03:39 AM (CRotO)

891 Wish I could join you guys with schadenboners, but I'm an Ette and this might be the worst week of my life.

Posted by: pookysgirl at December 02, 2016 03:48 AM (ar2KI)

892 Forgot which 'ette came up with this:

schadenbuttons

Posted by: Raider Nation - Sin City? at December 02, 2016 03:49 AM (CRotO)

893 885. As I recall, the smell of the exhaust off the krautish tanks threw them or something like that.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 02, 2016 03:49 AM (c6C3U)

894 I stand corrected: Apparently I can get a schadenbutton, just wish I wasn't so miserable.

Posted by: pookysgirl at December 02, 2016 03:52 AM (ar2KI)

895 sorry pookysgirl

Posted by: SMFH - 9-2 at December 02, 2016 03:53 AM (CRotO)

896 I keep telling myself my husband's absence is temporary, but there's so much long-term worrying that I can't sleep.

Posted by: pookysgirl at December 02, 2016 04:00 AM (ar2KI)

897 Uncle P. Things worked out well in training. They got the Dogs used to going under tanks to look for food.

In reality they couldn't teach the Dogs to tell the difference between Soviet and German Tanks.
Some Soviet Tanks got blown to poop before the program was called off.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 02, 2016 04:01 AM (d76uN)

898 just wish I wasn't so miserable.
---
could be worse, you're not married to my ugly, broke dumb ass...

see, it's all retaliative.


Posted by: redc1c4 at December 02, 2016 04:01 AM (84In0)

899 With apologies to PoP, who was grossed out, womyns do have boners, it's just all internal. The clitoris is actually a pretty big structure, it's just only a small portion of it is external. The vast majority is internal, and it gets engorged, just like the male version. In fact, it's all the same precursor tissue. It's just the sex differentiation morphs into different forms.

The clitoris has "legs" and the thing looks sort of like a wishbone. Look it up -- the best to see are 3D renderings of the internal structure.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 02, 2016 04:03 AM (DW+jj)

900 who can't even pick the right word from speel check

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 02, 2016 04:03 AM (84In0)

901 897. Heh....the Rooshians. Persistent and not afraid to try crazy shit.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 02, 2016 04:04 AM (c6C3U)

902 Yesterday was first day missed the ONT in a very long while. Was up and out by 0330hrs for work. But its Friday finally.
Good momorning horde

Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2016 04:04 AM (5sOEp)

903 Posted by: pookysgirl at December 02, 2016 04:00 AM (ar2KI)

Even after 11 years, I am still a little shocked that after I got home from 2 years in Iraq, I was still married.

Love will find a way. Always.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 02, 2016 04:04 AM (d76uN)

904 I haven't been able to engage in this middle of the night ONT.


I know noth-ING!

Posted by: Sgt. Schultz at December 02, 2016 04:04 AM (tHwdc)

905 The clitoris has "legs" and the thing looks sort of
like a wishbone. Look it up -- the best to see are 3D renderings of the
internal structure.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 02, 2016 04:03 AM (DW+jj)


Fascinating.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 02, 2016 04:07 AM (tHwdc)

906 899. Yes, the best renderings are 3-d, amd in-person.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 02, 2016 04:07 AM (c6C3U)

907 Honestly, Pookette has probably been better for his mood than I have been. "Hi Daddy! Had chicken and fries and then A COOKIE!"

Posted by: pookysgirl at December 02, 2016 04:10 AM (ar2KI)

908 jamming to Franklin's Tower as best i can with sleeping beasts down the hall...

30 Days of Dead, Baby!

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 02, 2016 04:12 AM (84In0)

909 I miss the in-person renderings. But here is a lovely diagram.

http://tinyurl.com/ljqglu3

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 02, 2016 04:13 AM (tHwdc)

910 896 & 907. He'll come home to his girls. My grandfather saw and walked thru hell on earth and came home to his sweetheart. Millions have. But it takes time.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 02, 2016 04:14 AM (c6C3U)

911 Note how the legs encircle the vagina and the urethra and are close to the vaginal opening. This makes sort of a "cuff" close to the opening.

Another fascinating thing. A woman *can* have up to three separate orgasmic nerve pathways to the brain. I say can because apparently not all women have all three, the full package so to speak.

Hell, it's getting late and I don't need to ramble on about this stuff. The clitoris is one pathway, and note the structure goes around the vagina and it's possible to have vaginal stimulation "hit" those clitoral legs. But the other pathway, the "G-spot" is another one, I think. There's a third, and I can't remember where.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 02, 2016 04:18 AM (DW+jj)

912 He'll come home to his girls. My grandfather saw and walked thru hell
on earth and came home to his sweetheart. Millions have. But it takes
time.---
and it means the world to know that such things are there to come home to.,

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 02, 2016 04:19 AM (84In0)

913 One never knows what they will find in the conversations on the ONT.

Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2016 04:28 AM (5sOEp)

914 912. Hell, Pa wasn't thinking of anything but coming back to his mother and sweetheart, my Ma. Part of what motivated him was the thought that the men he had to fight were the reason he couldn't be home with them, and the thought that je couldn't leave this world without seeing them again. Fought like a demon on crack in consequence. But it took time, once he was back.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 02, 2016 04:28 AM (c6C3U)

915 Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2016 04:28 AM (5sOEp)

The exploding Dogs didn't interest you?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 02, 2016 04:32 AM (d76uN)

916 Anyway, conking out on the body pillow he gave me as a stand-in. Night, Horde!

Posted by: pookysgirl at December 02, 2016 04:33 AM (ar2KI)

917 One never knows what they will find in the conversations on the ONT.z
---
like the most vulnerable point on the M-1 Abrams is the fuel tanker in the LOGPAC convoy, and it's not even armored?


Posted by: redc1c4 at December 02, 2016 04:34 AM (84In0)

918 What I enjoyed driving:

https://oshkoshdefense.com/variants/m984a4-recovery-truck-wrecker/

What I didn't:

https://oshkoshdefense.com/variants/m978a4-fuel-servicing-truck-tanker/

Do not miss LOGPACS.

Posted by: SMFH - 9-2 at December 02, 2016 04:39 AM (CRotO)

919 Ahhh... A Hemitt.

How hard is it to flip one of those things?

IMHO you haven't experienced driving anything until after you damn near flip a 548 over on its side taking a turn too fast.

Which in a 548 is about 25mph.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 02, 2016 04:51 AM (d76uN)

920 917. Heh. Somebody understands logistics. Anatoli said the weakest part on any kraut tank was always the guy in it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 02, 2016 04:55 AM (c6C3U)

921 Not as easy as an MRAP.

Posted by: SMFH - 9-2 at December 02, 2016 05:04 AM (CRotO)

922 Nite y'all.

Posted by: SMFH - 9-2 at December 02, 2016 05:05 AM (CRotO)

923 I would never say the conversations aren't interesting.

Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2016 05:06 AM (5sOEp)

924 >>>The fall of the mainstream Christian Churches of the U.S.A.


Ok, time for the Episcopal joke:

A life-long Episcopalian watches as the lesbian bishop processes in fully nude, offers prayers to Isis, Astarte and Moloch and then looks on approvingly as the choir begins an orgy right in front of the altar.

The Episcopalian turns in disgust to his companion and says, "You know, if they change one more thing about the liturgy, I am out of here!!"

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 02, 2016 05:17 AM (rH4JY)

925
883 there's another reason for the decline in nfl ratings, besides left-wing genuflection and overexposure, and that's mediocrity. with the exception of new england and the surprise in dallas, nearly all the rest hover around .500 or lower.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 02, 2016 03:29 AM (WTSFk)


And thus it is the anti-Lake Woebegon for sports -- "where all the teams are below average".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Irredeemable Cycling Stars (TM) at December 02, 2016 05:19 AM (BK3ZS)

926 924. And that's why I'm a maimonidean Jew who honors Tengri and is in love with a Roman Catholic. Raising my kiddos orthodox sith.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 02, 2016 05:32 AM (c6C3U)

927 Heh. Somebody understands logistics. Anatoli said the weakest part on any kraut tank was always the guy in it.

The tactics were always supported by combined arms, tanks without infantry cover were vulnerable in certain situations. Is the only combat casualty to an Abrams still to an ATM fired for a bridge overhead in Iraq.

Posted by: Jean at December 02, 2016 05:37 AM (2RVmA)

928 Hi yeah. We're the libertarians and as much as we respect our vets and many really don't like these protests a lot of us really don't like making speech illegal either.

We have this coalition going. The kids actually kind of picked our candidate and then used social media to get him 10s of millions of dollars of free press.

Me personally ... I liked Cruz and I still do. I'd hope Ted -- as a strict constructionism -- won't come out in favor of this.

Still Donald is the guy and it might be true that Ted couldn't beat Hillary. So I swung on over to Donald bigly and I've been happy so far ... but this is a coalition.

We did this with Reagon too. A lot of political capital was spent on flag burning. It's the right taking the bait from the left. I don't give a fuck if you wipe a dogs ass with it if it's your flag and your dog. I still get teary at high school football games during the anthem.

I was an alter boy for 8 years. I don't believe now but I know the faith pretty well. The Eucharist is the body of Christ in the right setting. In others it's a piece of flat bread. You can make nachos out of it because it's just bread.

Posted by: bestie21 at December 02, 2016 05:37 AM (HUeC4)

929 >>>Part of what has destroyed the mainline Protestant churches is their full-throated embrace of Progressive lunacy.


The rot started long ago, at the turn of the century. The problems with liberal Christianity, how it differed from traditional Christianity was all documented and analyzed by J. Gresham "Chipmunk Cheeks" Machen in his book "Christianity and Liberalism". Liberalism has a different view of God, humans, sin, Jesus, and scripture. Once you take a low view of scripture and elevate the desires of humans above Biblical ethics, you've already conceded the argument and have no refutation to the most radical nutballs that eventually show up, like John Shelby Spong who is essentially an atheist.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 02, 2016 05:39 AM (rH4JY)

930
like the most vulnerable point on the M-1 Abrams is the fuel tanker in the LOGPAC convoy, and it's not even armored?


Posted by: redc1c4

Working like a dog to fix that BTW

Posted by: Jean at December 02, 2016 05:40 AM (2RVmA)

931 My answer to flag burning:. Free Speech, go ahead, but be aware that we're going to make desecration of the flag an affirmative defense for simple assault.

Posted by: Jean at December 02, 2016 05:43 AM (2RVmA)

932 Chicago Tribune: All year, the prospect of giving the real estate and reality TV mogul the power to launch attacks that would kill millions of people was one of the main reasons his opponents argued against electing him. "A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons," Hillary Clinton said in her speech.

I worried all night on who Trump was going to nuke first!! /sac

Posted by: Colin at December 02, 2016 05:43 AM (mIgf1)

933 Good morning.
Love that bottom pic. Dollar to a hole in a donut that's a 155mm howitzer round that young man is holding. Real close to 100 lbs of steel and explosive ready to be sent up to 10 miles down range if memory serves.
The fuse is point detonating but it has a screw that can be turned a bit to change it to delay to allow a bit of penetration before it goes boom.

If you stand behind the gun you can watch the back end of the round disappear into the sky.

Posted by: teej at December 02, 2016 05:49 AM (JEx0Z)

934 Today is pie day
not another Friday.
And I ate the last pie on Wednesday night at work. Dang.

Posted by: Eromero at December 02, 2016 05:53 AM (zLDYs)

935 Jean

They want more attention. Smacking around isn't going to work. Let them do their tantrum.

Then when they block roads we shoot them with rubber bullets. Why are talking about flag burning? Are the fires out in Portland yet?

It's a distraction.

Posted by: bestie21 at December 02, 2016 05:58 AM (HUeC4)

936 Note how the legs encircle the vagina and the urethra and are close to the vaginal opening. This makes sort of a "cuff" close to the opening.


Bing "cliteracy sculpture" and go to images to see how this looks.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 02, 2016 05:59 AM (rH4JY)

937 The fuse is point detonating but it has a screw that
can be turned a bit to change it to delay to allow a bit of penetration
before it goes boom.



If you stand behind the gun you can watch the back end of the round disappear into the sky.

Posted by: teej at December 02, 2016 05:49 AM (JEx0Z)

I remember that little screw very well, especially on the phosphorus rounds. Never was explained what the setting should be, I believe it was a time delay or something?

Posted by: Colin at December 02, 2016 06:03 AM (mIgf1)

938 Ugh.
G'morning. Somebody drag my trashcan to the curb for me....

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at December 02, 2016 06:03 AM (aL/aJ)

939 Plenty of criticism of Trump in the MSM this am....He is grandstanding, he is all about himself, etc, etc......The press is very unhappy......

Posted by: Colin at December 02, 2016 06:10 AM (mIgf1)

940 "The press is very unhappy......"

That's because Trump played them for the chumps that they are. Used then like cheap Truck Stop whores then refused to pay them a single cent and insulted them by not saying "Thank You".

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 02, 2016 06:13 AM (d76uN)

941 The next phase of Obama's life is not called "retirement", it's called "time to man up".

Obama blames Josh Earnest and the Propaganda Press for his failures.

At least we agree there were failures. Now we just need to help him understand who was to blame, hence "man up".

Posted by: MTF at December 02, 2016 06:14 AM (sCBEO)

942 Trump seems to be sucking all the air out of Obama with all the press following Trump around....I guess this always happens when you have a presidential elect.

Posted by: Colin at December 02, 2016 06:17 AM (mIgf1)

943 That particular fuse had two settings during my time in Colin.
It came set on PD for point detonating. It's been 43 years so I can't remember if the other setting was stamped just D or Del for delay.
There was also a time fuse that could be screwed into the round and set for an air burst over the target.
The rounds did not come with, nor were they hauled around with the fuses already in them. That was installed at the gun.

And those guns are one of the two reasons my ears aren't so good.

Posted by: teej at December 02, 2016 06:20 AM (JEx0Z)

944 The press is dead

Posted by: bestie21 at December 02, 2016 06:22 AM (HUeC4)

945 Jennifer Palmieri to Kellyanne Conway:

"If providing a platform for white supremacists makes me a brilliant tactician, I am proud to have lost." she said. "I would rather lose than win the way you guys did."

Obvious bullshit-- Palmieri would sacrifice her left arm to have won, so that's bullshit. And the standard-issue moral preening is certainly enough to drive a reasonable person to bar-fighting.

But what's really incredible is the smug certainty that little Breitbart is become an all-powerful (politically speaking) instrument of the KKK and Stormfront. Where the hell do they get this stuff? I mean I just don't see it at Breitbart. Maybe I just don't go there enough or something.

Posted by: MTF at December 02, 2016 06:23 AM (sCBEO)

946 @Jean 931 - that's exactly what I think SHOULD be allowed to happen

Posted by: An American Commoner, Irredeemably Deplorable at December 02, 2016 06:24 AM (pxwEr)

947 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2016 06:25 AM (u82oZ)

948 Someone in Alberta is scamming buyers by selling them shaved kittens as if it were of the hairlesss and expensive Sphynx breed.

We need John Cleese and Michael Palin to do the hairy pussy sketch.

"It's not hairy. Lovely plumage, the Norwegian Sphynx."

"It's more hirsute than a yak! It looks like bleedin' Mungojerry! This pussy is a hairy pussy!"

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 02, 2016 06:25 AM (rH4JY)

949 nd those guns are one of the two reasons my ears aren't so good.

Posted by: teej at December 02, 2016 06:20 AM (JEx0Z)

Your right, I was in the M60 tank, and fortunately my hearing is fine...Of course wearing those helmets probably muffled the firing of the gun..I remember the 45 cal...as being very loud.

Posted by: Colin at December 02, 2016 06:25 AM (mIgf1)

950 Still got a big smile from watching the youtube streaming of Trump at his rally in Ohio. I can say I was one of 36,000.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2016 06:27 AM (u82oZ)

951 "If you stand behind the gun you can watch the back end of the round disappear into the sky."


You'll shoot your eye out kid!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 02, 2016 06:28 AM (J+eG2)

952 Does anyone know of a reputable charity or organization devoted to relief for Gatlinburg, or Tennessee in general?

I really had no idea of the scope of this wildfire business. Would like to help in some way.

Posted by: Gem at December 02, 2016 06:28 AM (uaHyk)

953 Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog


Trump should appoint a Czar for that.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 02, 2016 06:28 AM (rH4JY)

954 I just read that Mattis once called Obama "an unwiped ass."

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at December 02, 2016 06:29 AM (P8951)

955 Steve and Cold Bear

We're reclaiming America. No more tzars.

Just spreading the attitude among self-goverened citizens is enough.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2016 06:32 AM (u82oZ)

956 675
Hitchens had a hard on for Mother Theresa too.

I never liked Hitchens.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 02, 2016 12:43 AM (qWvcB)

Camille Paglia, an atheist herself, tore into Hitchens in an interview. She said he and Dawkins knew nothing about religion and she hated their sneering contemptuousness toward people of faith.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at December 02, 2016 06:33 AM (P8951)

957 Dolly Parton has one going Gem.
Called My People something.
Bet Dolly Parton My People in a search engine would get you there.

Well VIA, the eyes ain't quite what they used to be, which was very, very good.... but that's just ( shhhh ) old age.

Posted by: teej at December 02, 2016 06:33 AM (JEx0Z)

958 Does anyone know of a reputable charity or organization devoted to relief for Gatlinburg, or Tennessee in general?
==========================

I give to Mennonite Disaster Services. While I'm not Mennonite I find this charity spends its money very efficiently and moves rapidly to help those in need. I don't know if MDS is specifically aiding Gatlinburg, but I'd bet they are.

https://mds.mennonite.net/

Posted by: MTF at December 02, 2016 06:33 AM (sCBEO)

959 "Does anyone know of a reputable charity or organization devoted to relief for Gatlinburg, or Tennessee in general?
========================== "

Maybe check the Clinton Foundation.

I hear they did some good works in Haiti some few years ago.
The locals still talk about them down there.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 02, 2016 06:35 AM (J+eG2)

960 928 Posted by: bestie21 at December 02, 2016 05:37 AM (HUeC4)


I used to be a little "l" libertarian type person. That is until the big "L" Libertarian Party came around. They filled the Party with wild ass kooks who were more concerned with anarchy and drugs than small government.


The founders did believe in small government at the federal level and even to some extent at the State level. But they did believe in some government.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 02, 2016 06:37 AM (mpXpK)

961 I mean I just don't see it at Breitbart. Maybe I just don't go there enough or something.

Posted by: MTF at December 02, 2016 06:23 AM (sCBEO)

There's the occasional antisemitic dickhead in the comments section, but that's true of any comments section since the dawn of the internet. Most of them get shouted at to take their shit somewhere that it's welcome, but they just keep on with it.

I'd bet money that most of them draw paychecks from some lefty organization to spew that shit on Breitbart, too.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 02, 2016 06:37 AM (J+mig)

962 Le NOOD arriving.


Track two


Stand clear please.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 02, 2016 06:37 AM (J+eG2)

963 959
"Does anyone know of a reputable charity or organization devoted to relief for Gatlinburg, or Tennessee in general?

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Maybe check the Clinton Foundation.



I hear they did some good works in Haiti some few years ago.

The locals still talk about them down there.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 02, 2016 06:35 AM (J+eG2)

I have a link coming up. Dolly Parton is starting something there.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 02, 2016 06:38 AM (mpXpK)

964 Thanks, guys.

VIA especially. ;-)

Posted by: Gem at December 02, 2016 06:40 AM (uaHyk)

965 Drudge reminds us that weather is not climate, and its going to be very cold next week. Except in Miami, where it will only be sort-of cold. When we lived there our house did not have heat. Weather like this was no fun.

http://tinyurl.com/glwdc9x

Posted by: MTF at December 02, 2016 06:40 AM (sCBEO)

966 Maybe check the Clinton Foundation.



I hear they did some good works in Haiti some few years ago.

The locals still talk about them down there.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 02, 2016 06:35 AM (J+eG2)

You might be thinking of Ganthier, Haiti...I know the Clinton Foundation sent them a $5 check once, and it bounced...../sac

Posted by: Colin at December 02, 2016 06:41 AM (mIgf1)

967 I heard that Dolly pledged $1,000 per month to any family in Sevier County displaced by this arson. This is on top of her book literacy program and her college tuition payments. She is one incredible woman.

Posted by: MTF at December 02, 2016 06:42 AM (sCBEO)

968 The wife watched some YouTube videos on Nibiru, Planet X, the 9th planet, yada yada yada .... Coming Soon!

HEY .... This could be the SMOD that we have been waiting for.

This has been out there for since the 80's. However they are saying that it will become visible by 2020. The elites will no longer be able to deny it. They have known about it and have been preparing sites for themselves. Denver airport's underground complex, China's ghost cities, Russian's Large civil defense drills. It could turn out that DOOM is right around the corner! I imagine civil unrest will be epic. We could very well have people with Australian accents and Mohawks riding around on motorcycles trying to steal everybody's gas.

It would be a hoot, if something becomes visible. All hell breaks loose. The elites bunker in. Then it passes by with no extinction level event, and everyone is left waiting out side the elite bunkers waiting for them to come out with a lot of rope ... some assembly required.

Posted by: Paladin at December 02, 2016 06:52 AM (voXKc)

969 I am a ceritifiable minority, being half chink/jew

FUCK OBAMA AND HIS IDENTITY POLITICS.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 02, 2016 09:21 AM (OkKDg)

970 I appreciate you bringing our attention to the End of the High Church article. There are progressive Christians who insist Christianity needs to "change" (er, what? by which they mean make it more "progressive") in order to attract modern people, or else it will die. Frankly, that's a damn lie. Progressive religion generally and consistently declines much faster than traditional.

Posted by: Rick67 at December 02, 2016 05:56 PM (SDC/U)

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