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Financial Regulation As A Template For Journalistic Transparency

Look at any financial or economic report from the research arm of an American investment bank and you will discover a bewildering array of disclosures, mandated by the Federal government as part of its never-ending drive to level the playing field of investing and – possibly more important to the mandarins in Washington -- cut into the large bonuses of bankers and the profits of these banks. These disclosures cover everything from the personal and family holdings of the analysts writing the reports, to the business relationships of the parent firms, to the latest colonoscopy results of the janitor who cleans the analysts’ offices. Any conflict of interest, however small and inconsequential, must be disclosed, on pain of sanction of the analyst and the firm. Those sanctions include fines, temporary or permanent banishment from the industry, and, rarely, jail time.

In addition to these disclosures, analysts and banks are restricted by a byzantine rule book that is routinely reinterpreted, amended and added to by the regulators, who take great delight in finding narrow, technical violations that would be open to interpretation (or seen as insane) by any sentient human being, and hammering the firms, in public if possible. Oh, and there is more than one regulatory agency, so FINRA (Financial Institution Regulatory Authority) might have a rule that specifically contradicts an SEC (Securities and Exchange Commission) rule. And just to make it more fun, each state can regulate and hold criminally and civilly liable any of these analysts and their firms. Remember Eliot Spitzer?

These disclosures are not designed to control what information is released or the opinions of the analysts and economists, but rather to ensure that there are no ulterior motives governing the analysts’ financial opinions, and that all investors, from individuals to huge institutional investors, receive the same information at the same time.

The claim is, of course, that without objective analysis, untainted by secret (insider) information, financial connections, and self-interest, the American investor will be denied the information he or she requires to make sound financial decisions and will be ripe for the taking by the financial industry.
As we all know, since the Media has told us repeatedly, America hates big banks (almost as much as they hate journalists). And the U.S. Congress and various state legislatures have used that dislike to great effect, both for political gain (banks are a convenient whipping boy) and for financial gain (fines levied against banks can run into the many billions of dollars).

Yet the American people have never been presented with the opportunity to regulate the information they receive from the press, the very people for whom they have such contempt. Why is that? The United States Constitution frowns on control of the media, and specifically states that:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

And I wholeheartedly support every word of the 1st Amendment. Our founders were very smart men and understood the danger of a press that was beholden to government for its existence.

So why regulate the press? Or to be precise, why demand disclosures of any conflict of interest on the part of the journalists who are tasked with providing America with news?

And even more pressing: How can one justify any regulation of a clear and unambiguous right to free speech and a free press? Well….I can’t…but the Left certainly can. Just look at the rhetoric of 2nd Amendment regulation for the talking points to justify this. “Reasonable regulation” in the public interest is perfectly okay if it means taking away my right to keep and bear arms (the 2nd Amendment is even more clear and concise than the 1st Amendment), so I will use their logic to take away their right to an unfettered and out-of-control press that is clearly biased in favor of their world view.

But back to the original question: Why do it? Because the media are broken. There is not even a semblance of objectivity among the journalists who report the news. In a 2016 study by The Center For Public Integrity, 96% of the money donated by reporters to the 2016 presidential candidates went to Hillary.

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In all, people identified in federal campaign finance filings as journalists, reporters, news editors or television news anchors — as well as other donors known to be working in journalism — have combined to give more than $396,000 to the presidential campaigns of Clinton and Trump, according to a Center for Public Integrity analysis.

Nearly all of that money — more than 96 percent — has benefited Clinton: About 430 people who work in journalism have, through August, combined to give about $382,000 to the Democratic nominee, the Center for Public Integrity’s analysis indicates.

That the political imbalance is bad enough (it speaks volumes about the lack of diversity...their favorite buzz-word), but their insistence that even with that clear conflict of interest that they can be objective is an affront to the intelligence of the American people and a slap in the face to the ideals of a free press. That they are in the thrall of the ruling party bothers them not a whit. That they cannot see that they are shackled to a political party is a testament to their obliviousness and lack of intelligence.

And that’s okay.

Actually it is not okay, but I do not believe that it can be changed, so I will tolerate it.

But what can be changed is America’s awareness of these nefarious connections to the politicians that the media should be reporting on, but who are instead simply regurgitating the current talking points generated by the communications directors and press secretaries.

And the change is simple. Mandate disclosures, modeled after financial disclosures, for every journalist publishing in America. A simple short paragraph below each article outlining political contributions, family and personal connections, as well as any personal communication that the reporter or pundit or journalist has received from the people about which he is reporting. And then require the newspaper or the network to report the same information about its senior management or owners. If that is an onerous burden, as undoubtedly would be argued, than an internet link to that information can be provided. And any other reasonable accommodation can be made to streamline the process, but the objective measures: political donations and personal connections of those controlling the information would be available to any interested party.

Notice I said nothing about controlling the information they report on and pontificate about and manipulate and blow out of proportion and bury. They can keep being the Democrat Party’s fluffers to their heart’s content. They can keep trying to be the story and support their favored politicians and protect their access to the inside scoop and the best cocktail parties and do all of the things that most of us find vile beyond belief. In short, they can say whatever they want. This is not censorship.

But…we will have objective information about their lack of objectivity. And then American voters can decide for themselves, using objective analysis of the information they are provided by the press whether to believe that yes, Donald Trump is in fact the racist, anti-Semitic, homophobic Antichrist who said PUSSY! and Hillary Rodham Clinton is an angel sent by God to save humanity from the deprivations of the Republican Party and its deplorable, gun-toting adherents in the hinterlands.

Or, Hillary Rodham Clinton is a kleptocrat in the mold of Tammany Hall, but without even a passing interest in the well-being of her constituents. That her two desires are power and riches, and if the country suffers an existential decline…so be it. That her lust for lucre came at the cost of the victims of her serial rapist husband, the four dead in Benghazi, the rape of what little integrity the State Department ever had, the security of the United States, and a dozen other significant ethical and legal lapses that were carefully modulated and manipulated and minimized by the media.

There is a rhetorical and logical assumption that, “Freely stated is freely denied.” Which is a fancy way of saying that without facts, a supposition can be denied with ease. The media have, for years, been accused of bias. And their response has always been, “That’s not true.” With disclosures, it would be a more difficult rhetorical feat to continue to deny pervasive prejudice and favoritism.

Many thanks to OregonMuse, who proof-read this and made a few important suggestions

Posted by: CBD at 07:00 PM




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1 FIRST

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at November 17, 2016 06:58 PM (zu88C)

2 Thats a lot of content, oh well guess I will read it

Posted by: Skip-hoping Trump at least does random conservative acts at November 17, 2016 06:58 PM (GH68B)

3 Second

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at November 17, 2016 06:58 PM (zu88C)

4 ding dangit Skip , ya rassa frassin ...

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at November 17, 2016 06:59 PM (zu88C)

5 Rigged!

Bias!

We win anyway.

Posted by: scottst at November 17, 2016 07:01 PM (v+8+I)

6 7?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 17, 2016 07:02 PM (uz/Pv)

7 Executive Summary: The media is in the tank for Democrats and they don't have to tell you about it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 17, 2016 07:02 PM (ZLQuU)

8 Wow. Clinton appears to be way ahead.

Posted by: wth at November 17, 2016 07:02 PM (HgMAr)

9 7.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 17, 2016 07:03 PM (uz/Pv)

10 I don't see a problem here!

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 17, 2016 07:03 PM (wCEn4)

11 And the change is simple. Mandate disclosures, modeled after financial
disclosures, for every journalist publishing in America. A simple short
paragraph below each article outlining political contributions, family
and personal connections, as well as any personal communication that the
reporter or pundit or journalist has received from the people about
which he is reporting. And then require the newspaper or the network to
report the same information about its senior management or owners.

=====

Put it in a box under each talking head whenever they are on the tv:

"In 2016, MeAgain Kelly donated 2000.00 dollars, a big squishy, teddy bear and an autographed copy of her book "Settle for More" available at Amazon and other fine bookstores to Hillary For President PAC . "

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at November 17, 2016 07:03 PM (zu88C)

12 It's going to be an early night.

Posted by: wth at November 17, 2016 07:03 PM (HgMAr)

13 Even broadsheets have advertisers, but the honest ones tell you who the advertisers really are!

Posted by: Bemjamin Franklin at November 17, 2016 07:04 PM (wCEn4)

14 I wonder if it isn't all down to Leftist Seminaries. Colleges have been overtaken by Leftists and teach and produce more. So every vocation required to have college degrees are bound to be largly Leftists. Of course some who start conservative have a fighting chance to overcome this but by and large most are not.

Posted by: Skip-hoping Trump at least does random conservative acts at November 17, 2016 07:04 PM (GH68B)

15 Must have been a good movie. There's even charts.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at November 17, 2016 07:04 PM (D2vc1)

16 96% of the money donated by reporters to the 2016 presidential candidates went to Hillary

If this keeps up, I'm gonna have to upgrade to an industrial-strength shocked face.

Posted by: The Duke of Mish at November 17, 2016 07:04 PM (Tyii7)

17 Breaking: Up and coming politico Chelsea Clinton now America's new sweetheart.

Developing...

Posted by: The MSM, Now New and Improved With 20% More Objectivity at November 17, 2016 07:05 PM (ZLQuU)

18 A simple short paragraph below each article outlining political contributions, family and personal connections, as well as any personal communication that the reporter or pundit or journalist has received from the people about which he is reporting.

There aren't enough pixels to list who all is literally fucking whom.

Posted by: alexthechick - Victory arms! at November 17, 2016 07:05 PM (dEQP3)

19 Are they going to be required to issue subprime news reports in journalistically underserved neighborhoods?

Posted by: Muldoon at November 17, 2016 07:05 PM (wPiJc)

20 At least Tammany Hall delivered on the goods.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at November 17, 2016 07:05 PM (J8/9G)

21 Okay, okay, so what's the one-line here? Gimme the logline on this post.

Posted by: Hollywood producer at November 17, 2016 07:06 PM (hA1V+)

22 Some of that looks kinda like math.

Posted by: Dang at November 17, 2016 07:06 PM (8b+oT)

23 And what good did it do me? I look like a fool! Huma, vodka stat!

Posted by: Hillary! hic at November 17, 2016 07:06 PM (FXW24)

24 Which is why I think Julian Assange deserves a heartfelt "thank you " from America and the world.

Posted by: Jmel at November 17, 2016 07:06 PM (atcdL)

25 Are they going to be required to issue subprime news reports in journalistically underserved neighborhoods?

Posted by: Muldoon
-----
News Deserts! We have News Deserts!

Posted by: Dang at November 17, 2016 07:07 PM (8b+oT)

26 "In 2016, MeAgain Kelly donated 2000.00 dollars, a big squishy, teddy bear and an autographed copy of her book "Settle for More" available at Amazon and other fine bookstores to Hillary For President PAC . "
Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at November 17, 2016 07:03 PM (zu88C)


Well, if you're looking for *total* honesty, the box under each talking head would have to contains captain such as "DNC fluffer", "commie stooge", and "old-school Bolshevik."

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 17, 2016 07:07 PM (XZiSu)

27 I can already hear the squeals of protest emanating from Senate Minority Leader Chuckie Schumer (former employer of Anthony Weiner)!

Posted by: Hrothgar (gab.ai) at November 17, 2016 07:07 PM (wCEn4)

28 A simple short paragraph below each article outlining political contributions, family and personal connections


"Andrea Mitchell is married to former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan but she would blow Bill Clinton if it would guarantee the right to partial birth abortion."

Posted by: The MSM, Now New and Improved With 20% More Objectivity at November 17, 2016 07:07 PM (ZLQuU)

29 Critical Thinking Skills. The most important class I ever had in college taught critical thinking as a process and looking back it was the single most important topic I covered in 4 years of college.

It should have been taught in middle school but the last thing that any parent or teacher wants is for the children they are supervising to start picking holes in their arguments/logic.

I wouldn't say the media problem will never be fixed. . .At some point the lack of revenue will take care of it unless the Government decides it needs to subsidize the media.

I'm starting to cut out the few TV shows I still watch because they have this bad habit of trying to throw in Leftist lecture/talking points. My tolerance for that at this time is zero so I'll find something else to do.

Posted by: Squinja at November 17, 2016 07:08 PM (hWHCp)

30 The Freedom of the Press is all citizens' right to publish, not a protection of a selected class or group.

Posted by: davidt at November 17, 2016 07:09 PM (XoldI)

31 In 2016, MeAgain Kelly donated 2000.00 dollars, a big squishy, teddy bear and an autographed copy of her book

Shit, that's worse than an Obama's Greatest Hits box set.

Posted by: The Queen of England at November 17, 2016 07:10 PM (Tyii7)

32 The Freedom of the Press is all citizens' right to publish, not a protection of a selected class or group.

Posted by: davidt at November 17, 2016 07:09 PM (XoldI)


I'll bet you have a similarly crazy interpretation of the Second Amendment.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 17, 2016 07:10 PM (ZLQuU)

33 One more time: Trump spent his own money for much of the campaign and was outspent 10:1 by Hillary.

and yet Hillary Clinton will never be President of the United States.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2016 07:10 PM (39g3+)

34 Who run bartertown?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 17, 2016 07:10 PM (6Ll1u)

35 COMMON SENSE MEDIA CONTROL!!!

Posted by: Jukin,The Deplorable & Profoundly Unserious at November 17, 2016 07:11 PM (cOHS7)

36 The Freedom of the Press is all citizens' right to publish, not a protection of a selected class or group.

Posted by: davidt at November 17, 2016 07:09 PM (XoldI)


That doesn't even begin to explain the horror of Citizens United!

Posted by: Hrothgar (gab.ai) at November 17, 2016 07:11 PM (wCEn4)

37 The MFM is in the tank for the livvies?
I was so shocked you could have knocked me over with a feather.

Posted by: Hank at November 17, 2016 07:11 PM (ODWLo)

38 Shit, that's worse than an Obama's Greatest Hits box set.


Posted by: The Queen of England


*****


Criminy lady! Do you kiss your consort with that mouth?

Posted by: Muldoon at November 17, 2016 07:12 PM (wPiJc)

39 The Freedom of the Press is all citizens' right to publish, not a protection of a selected class or group.


Which means that this here place would have been gonzo if Hilldog won.

It would have been freedom of her majesty's press.

Posted by: eleven at November 17, 2016 07:12 PM (qUNWi)

40 Word is that the children of key Journolists had jobs at the Chelsea Legacy Foundation.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 17, 2016 07:12 PM (SIY7D)

41 and yet Hillary Clinton will never be President of the United States.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2016 07:10 PM (39g3+)

I wonder if there is a needlepoint version of that?

Posted by: Hrothgar (gab.ai) at November 17, 2016 07:12 PM (wCEn4)

42 I wonder if it isn't all down to Leftist Seminaries. Colleges have been overtaken by Leftists and teach and produce more. So every vocation required to have college degrees are bound to be largly Leftists. Of course some who start conservative have a fighting chance to overcome this but by and large most are not.

Posted by: Skip
****

I have seen the impact on the LDS community. The millennial LDS were brainwashed before college.
Back when I was their age, almost all the devout Mormons I knew were Conservatives. The only ones that weren't were unstable to say the least.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at November 17, 2016 07:12 PM (hVdx9)

43 Ooooh, long. Is there math too?

Posted by: tu3031 at November 17, 2016 07:13 PM (qJhUV)

44 15 Must have been a good movie. There's even charts.
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at November 17, 2016 07:04 PM (D2vc1)

See the end cut scene after the credits of the Dr. Strange Movie???

SPOILER

He's interviewing Thor, asking why he and Loki are in New York...

Posted by: Don Q. at November 17, 2016 07:13 PM (qf6WZ)

45 When I was growing up my parents watched the local news and the evening news, then the tv was turned off. We could watch Saturday morning cartoons and that was it for us and the tv. So I never developed the habit. My husband, on the other hand, watched every tv show with his family. They had the tv on all the time. He still watches mostly Netflix programs and Amazon programs and thats about it. It was tough getting him to stop, like an addiction.

Posted by: smoabb99 at November 17, 2016 07:14 PM (HBU7W)

46 This election was like putting on the sunglasses in the movie THEY LIVE.

We now know who really controls the media and why they push so hard for leftists to control the government:

Aliens.

Posted by: #AlwaysTrump - Formerly #NeverHillary at November 17, 2016 07:14 PM (KLyOA)

47 Criminy lady! Do you kiss your consort with that mouth?

That no-good wanker brings out the worst in me.

Posted by: The Queen of England at November 17, 2016 07:14 PM (Tyii7)

48 I wonder if there is a needlepoint version of that?


Fuck...I'll sew it into my skin.

Posted by: eleven at November 17, 2016 07:14 PM (qUNWi)

49 Our founders were very smart men and understood the danger of a press that was beholden to government for its existence.

Too bad they never foresaw the danger of a press that was beholden to one political party.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 17, 2016 07:14 PM (MZcWR)

50 Those are bold words coming from a cartoon character's sex toy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 17, 2016 07:14 PM (ZLQuU)

51 We should just pick one "newspaper" and boycott every one of their advertisers. Say, The Washington Post. List them all. Don't buy squat from them until they stop advertising in that rag. Hammer that one newspaper. Run one newspaper out of business. Just one... for starters.

Posted by: Dang at November 17, 2016 07:14 PM (8b+oT)

52 32 The Freedom of the Press is all citizens' right to publish, not a protection of a selected class or group.

Posted by: davidt at November 17, 2016 07:09 PM (XoldI)

I'll bet you have a similarly crazy interpretation of the Second Amendment.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 17, 2016 07:10 PM (ZLQuU)

Yeah.... next he'll be telling us the Second Amendment is there so we can overthrow our own government if needed...

sheeeeeeshhhhh

Posted by: Don Q. at November 17, 2016 07:14 PM (qf6WZ)

53 Chelsea needs to go back to the carpenter for some more work if she is the new face of Clinton, Inc.

"To zee lumberyard!"

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at November 17, 2016 07:15 PM (YGqAy)

54 Lou Dobbs says that sanctuary cities get 650 billion Federal dollars.

That's leverage.

How much Federal money, tax breaks, etc. does the MSM get?

Because there's your short-term solution.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at November 17, 2016 07:15 PM (zu88C)

55 Q: will Hillary Clinton ever be President of the United States?

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2016 07:16 PM (Sfs6o)

56 30 The Freedom of the Press is all citizens' right to publish, not a protection of a selected class or group.

Posted by: davidt at November 17, 2016 07:09 PM (XoldI)


My copy of the US Constitution (Rev. 2nd Ed.) says, "Congress shall make no law abridging freedom of the press of journalists fucking the right Washington insiders." Law!

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at November 17, 2016 07:17 PM (J8/9G)

57 Lou Dobbs says that sanctuary cities get 650 billion Federal dollars.

Per annum?

So we're paying reparations to illegal immigrants?

Posted by: eleven at November 17, 2016 07:17 PM (qUNWi)

58 55
Q: will Hillary Clinton ever be President of the United States?

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2016 07:16 PM (Sfs6o)

Maybe the goatee Hillary in the alternate universe.

Posted by: davidt at November 17, 2016 07:17 PM (XoldI)

59 Chelsea needs to go back to the carpenter for some more work if she is the new face of Clinton, Inc.

"To zee lumberyard!"


********


"I'm a REALLL BOYYY!!!!!"

Posted by: Howdy Doody Clinton at November 17, 2016 07:17 PM (wPiJc)

60 Lou Dobbs says that sanctuary cities get 650 billion Federal dollars.

That's leverage.

How much Federal money, tax breaks, etc. does the MSM get?

Because there's your short-term solution.


Posted by: Mortimer
****

ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, all have broadcasting licenses. Be a shame if something happened to them.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at November 17, 2016 07:17 PM (hVdx9)

61 56 30 The Freedom of the Press is all citizens' right to publish, not a protection of a selected class or group.

Posted by: davidt at November 17, 2016 07:09 PM (XoldI)

My copy of the US Constitution (Rev. 2nd Ed.) says, "Congress shall make no law abridging freedom of the press of journalists fucking the right Washington insiders." Law!
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at November 17, 2016 07:17 PM (J8/9G)

Otherwise... its a TAX!

Posted by: Judge Roberts... at November 17, 2016 07:18 PM (qf6WZ)

62 It was tough getting him to stop, like an addiction.

Posted by: smoabb99 at November 17, 2016 07:14 PM (HBU7W)


I think constant "entertainment" is an addictive device leading to derailment of one's thought processes, fosters an inability to do useful actions, and limits one's ability to relate to other people in a normal fashion.

Oops, BBL, Kardashian special is on!

Posted by: Hrothgar (gab.ai) at November 17, 2016 07:18 PM (wCEn4)

63 Clinton up by 92 points in Washington DC. Expect an early concession speech from the orange man wing nuts.

Posted by: Polling man at November 17, 2016 07:18 PM (w0oFI)

64 The name of the movie CBD is reviewing here is "Fuck The Press".

My favorite scene of the movie is when President Trump himself shoves a flaming pineapple wrapped in concertina wire up the ass of every major newsie who slandered him during the run up to the election.

Zombie Roger Ebert chimes in: "Two enthusiastic thumbs up!" just before returning to Satan's spit-roaster.

Michael Medved is heard to cry: "FUUUUUCCCCKKKKK, I'm NEXT!"

Movie Budget: $10,000.

Movie first weekend take: "$189,000,000.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 17, 2016 07:18 PM (CS7jF)

65 I've seen Youtubers say "Full disclosure, my wife once worked for politican x blah blah blah..." And I suddenly wished that it was a thing.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 17, 2016 07:18 PM (VdICR)

66 I so hope one of the conservative acts from President Trump makes is cutting off sanctuary cities, Philadelphia being one of them.

Posted by: Skip-hoping Trump at least does random conservative acts at November 17, 2016 07:18 PM (GH68B)

67 Q: will Hillary Clinton ever be President of the United States?

Posted by: Weasel



******


Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! I know this one!!

Posted by: Muldoon at November 17, 2016 07:18 PM (wPiJc)

68 Who's going to make sure the disclosures are correct and complete? What's valid and what's not?

Posted by: freaked at November 17, 2016 07:19 PM (BO/km)

69 So we're paying reparations to illegal immigrants?

Posted by: eleven at November 17, 2016 07:17 PM (qUNWi)


Reparations to some,
jizya to others,
to actual tax-paying citizens not so much!

Posted by: Hrothgar (gab.ai) at November 17, 2016 07:20 PM (wCEn4)

70 What's worrisome is how much the media in our country that is 330 million people and spans a continent is dominated by just a few large conglomerates.

For billionaires with an agenda, such as Jeff Bezos and WaPo and Carlos Slim and the NYT, they clearly consider the cost of owning such financial dogs to be worth having a 'reputable' news entity with which to clothe their agenda.

At least this is limited to the legacy media. Although the globalists will surely, as Obama hinted today, be exploring ways to suppress alternative media sources and ensure the continuation of the power of the legacy media.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at November 17, 2016 07:20 PM (hA1V+)

71 Who's going to make sure the disclosures are correct and complete? What's valid and what's not?


I propose Vikings.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 17, 2016 07:20 PM (ZLQuU)

72 67 Q: will Hillary Clinton ever be President of the United States?

Posted by: Weasel



******


Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! I know this one!!
Posted by: Muldoon at November 17, 2016 07:18 PM (wPiJc)

Latest poll has her up by 6....

Posted by: MSM at November 17, 2016 07:20 PM (qf6WZ)

73 That graph makes the win oh so much satisfying because they failed at the very thing they thought was their bread and butter. They failed, too, by making it look like the Hildebeast was going to win, day after day. The infantile populous decided that they needn't get out of bed and even vote, they were so secure in that knowledge.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 17, 2016 07:20 PM (CFc5L)

74 Seven minutes to go here until ABC Evening News with David Somebody comes on.

I'm counting on their lead-off stories, as they do every night, to be anti-Trump.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at November 17, 2016 07:21 PM (U6f54)

75 I blame fiat money by the Federal Reserve.

Never should have left the gold standard.

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 17, 2016 07:21 PM (BKTpn)

76 Who's going to make sure the disclosures are correct and complete? What's valid and what's not?


I propose Vikings.

Posted by: Cicero
****

Blood eagle is the punishment for inaccuracy.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at November 17, 2016 07:21 PM (hVdx9)

77 They should be clear as Obama likes and state at the beginning of every programming they are the journalists for the dnc, and we provide all we want you to know 24/7.

get rid of theat other b.s

fairness in journalism.
shouldn't it be Fair?

Posted by: willow at November 17, 2016 07:22 PM (R7cwD)

78 Is this old news? Mike Flynn in as Nat Security Adviser.
Idk much about this guy. I hope he's a good choice

Posted by: L, Elle at November 17, 2016 07:23 PM (6IPEM)

79 Who's going to make sure the disclosures are correct and complete? What's valid and what's not?


*****


I'm pretty sure we can trust 'em.

Posted by: Gell-Mann at November 17, 2016 07:23 PM (wPiJc)

80 Tonight, President Elect Trump and I had a talk and we're fine now, buy my book, and Dana and I have a tickle fight. Tonight at nine on The Kelly File.

Posted by: Megyn Kelly at November 17, 2016 07:23 PM (qJhUV)

81 'Who's going to make sure the disclosures are correct and complete?'



I like the Vikings idea but really, how would it be enforced?

Posted by: freaked at November 17, 2016 07:23 PM (BO/km)

82 Yellen says the Fed will start raising interest rates next month. On the one hand, it's overdue, but it made the Choom look good. Now, if inflation becomes much worse, it will be Trump who has to deal with the results of eight years of fiscal irresponsibility. Winning! not so much on that one.

Posted by: Consistently Cynical at November 17, 2016 07:23 PM (V+B19)

83 Network News is the loss leader for most media companies, just like that sale at the grocery store that seems to good to be true.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 17, 2016 07:24 PM (6Ll1u)

84 They'd make a High Art of putting more spin on those "disclosures", than Paul Newman ever whacked into the queue ball in The Hustler.

The only way to prevent that would be to get someone of Trumpian business instincts, to format the required "information required" fields for said disclosures, and to mandate under your suggested SEVERE fines, that the information given is complete and accurate, in full.

Otherwise, the J schools will soon institute "Creative Disclosures 101" classes, as a matter of course.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 17, 2016 07:24 PM (v5iqM)

85 msnbc,cnn,cbs, reuters,ap.
Graphic warning. inmature audiencesonly , rated f.

Posted by: willow at November 17, 2016 07:24 PM (R7cwD)

86 I was told there would be no math. Or big words. Or so many words.

Posted by: josephistan at November 17, 2016 07:24 PM (7qAYi)

87 'Who's going to make sure the disclosures are correct and complete?'



I like the Vikings idea but really, how would it be enforced?

Posted by: freaked
****

See my post at 76

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at November 17, 2016 07:24 PM (hVdx9)

88 54 Lou Dobbs says that sanctuary cities get 650 billion Federal dollars.

That's leverage.

How much Federal money, tax breaks, etc. does the MSM get?

Because there's your short-term solution.
Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at November 17, 2016 07:15 PM (zu88C)

A year!!! Can't we just build a wall around those places as well.

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 17, 2016 07:24 PM (BKTpn)

89 I run Bartertown.

Posted by: Janet Yellen at November 17, 2016 07:25 PM (hA1V+)

90 Yeah no, regulating speech is a losing proposition.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 17, 2016 07:25 PM (0F67M)

91 Who run bartertown?
Dead Punch Sulzberger run Bartertown!

Posted by: andycanuck at November 17, 2016 07:26 PM (7cmcE)

92 Who's going to make sure the disclosures are correct and complete? What's valid and what's not?


I propose Vikings.

******

So if they misrepresent themselves Adrian Peterson will take a switch to 'em?

Posted by: Muldoon at November 17, 2016 07:26 PM (wPiJc)

93 tldr

Posted by: Anderson Cooper at November 17, 2016 07:26 PM (cmE8J)

94 The Freedom of the Press is all citizens' right to publish, not a protection of a selected class or group.


--------------

Didn't one of those gimpy fucks tell his viewers that only 'they' could read the Wikileaks emails? Said it was illegal for us mere mortals to do so

Posted by: The guy with the hair at November 17, 2016 07:27 PM (aAlFX)

95 cut of the funding to sanctuary cities, I wonder how in love they are with rampant other countries citizens if They had to fund their own ideology.

Posted by: willow at November 17, 2016 07:27 PM (R7cwD)

96 Is there any chance whatsoever of Hill curling up with her dogs on the fainting couch and staying there for the rest of her miserable life?

Maybe trot her out once a year on the anniversary of being humiliated by Trump just to see how horrible she looks. I think I could handle that.

Posted by: Hank at November 17, 2016 07:27 PM (ODWLo)

97 I've been wondering why the corrupt media is protected by the Constitution. Glad someone else is thinking about it

Posted by: Rick554 at November 17, 2016 07:28 PM (KHM6X)

98 "Tonight, President Elect Trump and I had a talk and we're fine now, buy my book, and Dana and I have a tickle fight. Tonight at nine on The Kelly File."

She was a scamp, a camp and a bit of a tramp.
She was a V-A-M-P
Vamp!

Posted by: jbspry at November 17, 2016 07:28 PM (bxc5w)

99


William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!

Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

William Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!

Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 17, 2016 07:28 PM (0F67M)

100 I think we are just going to have to keep using our BS meters to sift thru everything.

Posted by: freaked at November 17, 2016 07:28 PM (BO/km)

101 Why in the Fuck would sanctuary cities, which are most of the major cities in the USA with the best and most jobs and vibrant economies need 650 billion dollars a year?!?!:!

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 17, 2016 07:28 PM (BKTpn)

102 95 cut of the funding to sanctuary cities, I wonder how in love they are with rampant other countries citizens if They had to fund their own ideology.
Posted by: willow at November 17, 2016 07:27 PM (R7cwD)


====

And there's your funds for the wall, right there.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 17, 2016 07:29 PM (CFc5L)

103 No more tax breaks for Hollywood millionaire actors and billionaire producers.

Make GMA say "hosted by George snufflepuss, former chief of staff to President Bill Clinton" Make every ABC news show say "ABC news, managed by Rhodes, brother of President Obama's whatever"

Actually I'd love to see a boycott of GMA until George keeps his (even it was only his wifes) promise and leaves the show and the country since Trump won.

Posted by: PaleRider, follow link to help SMFH now Joy at November 17, 2016 07:29 PM (dkExz)

104 Yeah no, regulating speech is a losing proposition.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 17, 2016 07:25 PM (0F67M)


This is not a proposal for regulating speech. The MSM hacks can still fluff for any Democratic politician they want, just like now. Only now they're going to have to disclose who's they want to kiss and how long they'd like to kiss it. So the public knows.

Full freedom, full disclosure.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 17, 2016 07:30 PM (XZiSu)

105 Yellen says the Fed will start raising interest
rates next month. On the one hand, it's overdue, but it made the Choom
look good. Now, if inflation becomes much worse, it will be Trump who
has to deal with the results of eight years of fiscal irresponsibility.
Winning! not so much on that one.

Posted by: Consistently Cynical at November 17, 2016 07:23 PM (V+B19)



Yes, how conveeeeeenient! *spit*

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 17, 2016 07:30 PM (JO9+V)

106 Seems to me that the capital-M Media could very well constitute a cartel of colluding companies for antitrust purposes.

Antitrust is right in the wheelhouse of Progressiveism, ain't it?

Posted by: filbert, checking in from down under at November 17, 2016 07:30 PM (J1Pis)

107 >> Lou Dobbs says that sanctuary cities get 650 billion
>> Federal dollars.
>>
>> That's leverage.

Probably about right.

There are school districts in California that are, I'm guessing, 30% illegals. Where I am it's probably 5-8%.

If you actually deported the illegals - whine, cry, sob, tears, lots of news cameras - those districts would magically have money for music and arts and AP courses they haven't been able to afford - well, unless the PTA jingles the can for parental contributions - for two decades.

They'd magically be able to afford to clean their playgrounds and paint their buildings. Things would happen that we've long been told were impossible - at least not without giant new taxes.

The real issue is that most have been here so long that they've got at least one and probably multiple citizen kids. And no one is going to grab Mommy and Daddy and big-sis and throw them out while the two younger ones continue on in the US. Just not gonna happen.

So if you're gonna clean up the situation, it will take a generation to sort out, cutting off birthright citizenship would be a long battle if even possible, you have to keep the next generation of would-be anchor-baby-parents out.

Posted by: JEM at November 17, 2016 07:30 PM (TppKb)

108 What's valid and what's not?

Posted by: freaked at November 17, 2016 07:19 PM (BO/km)

A new federal agency, called the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, Explosives and Media Certification.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2016 07:30 PM (42Mgr)

109 I think we need to go to the original intent of the word "press"?

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 17, 2016 07:31 PM (BKTpn)

110 The reason so many journalist are Democrat shills, is because most of academia is progressive, and thus indoctrinating progressives in every field of study you can imagine. Only the physical sciences and engineering fields were once safe, but even these no longer are.

The Soviet Union's KGB indoctrination efforts to tear down America from within at last are now bearing consistent fruit, just 30 years too late for the Soviets.

Posted by: William Eaton at November 17, 2016 07:31 PM (MuTTO)

111 Only now they're going to have to disclose who's they want to kiss and how long they'd like to kiss it. So the public knows.


And if they don't? Or if they don't to someone's satisfaction? That someone being who?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 17, 2016 07:31 PM (0F67M)

112 100 I think we are just going to have to keep using our BS meters to sift thru everything.
Posted by: freaked at November 17, 2016 07:28 PM (BO/km)


Since the election, I have my BS meter calibrated to "everything they say is a lie". That's my starting point.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 17, 2016 07:32 PM (XZiSu)

113 yes Trump beat Hilda despite her billions of free media and big money, BUT that does not mean leftist propaganda did not almost turn our free nation over to a globalist grifter. A "free press" properly functioning means we don't get Clinton the first time (1992) ... and we certainly don't get commie zero experience Obama.

So with all the harm to our country aided by the corrupt anti-American media ... yes we need reforms. New media is replacing old, not just the dead trees, but broadcast as well. But they still have large influence. When they do corrupt reporting for Hillary, it is an in kind donation. (or whatever it's called).

But then, even the IRS is attacking conservatives with reckless abandon, and zero prosecution. We can start with massive prosecutions of all those involved in turning government into a leftist weapon. Then we can work down to the corrupt media, and Soros paying for assaults on Trump rallies.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 17, 2016 07:32 PM (LhGBu)

114 I linked this in the other thread but I think its worth looking at, particularly in the context of this topic

http://tinyurl.com/hyvg2ae

5 Things the National Media Can Do To Regain Its Credibility (But Won't)

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2016 07:32 PM (39g3+)

115 Am I the only one that makes up a new nickname for their dog every week?

Stinkbutt McGillicutty is currently a fan of this Hallie Jackson on msnbc.

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at November 17, 2016 07:32 PM (36cUd)

116 Volleyball Head is raising rates.

Because All The Improving Economic Indicators.


And shit.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at November 17, 2016 07:32 PM (zu88C)

117 76. Heh, between TKAW's Vikings and my bear-riding, whip-wielding Cossacks, this country would be in pretty good shape in about a week and change.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 17, 2016 07:33 PM (pKF9w)

118 'Only now they're going to have to disclose who's they want to kiss and how long they'd like to kiss it. So the public knows.'

That's the thing. We already know. It's always going to be like that. The media is the media because they love the media. We don't need more regulations to know that.

Posted by: freaked at November 17, 2016 07:33 PM (BO/km)

119 Cut the federal advertising budget to zero, and revoke the Ad Council's tax exempt status.

Watch hilarity ensue.

Posted by: filbert, checking in from down under at November 17, 2016 07:33 PM (J1Pis)

120 And if they don't? Or if they don't to someone's satisfaction? That someone being who?

Then its up to others to tell in their place, to name and shame.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2016 07:33 PM (39g3+)

121
Yes, how conveeeeeenient! *spit*


Posted by: Count de Monet

====


Yes. Totally non-election related and non-political and also not political. At all.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at November 17, 2016 07:34 PM (zu88C)

122 Then its up to others to tell in their place, to name and shame.

Bingo. The answer to bad speech is always more speech.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 17, 2016 07:34 PM (0F67M)

123 And if they don't? Or if they don't to someone's satisfaction? That someone being who?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 17, 2016 07:31 PM (0F67M)


Then we send in the Media Certification SWAT team and shut them down. Just like any other federal agency would do.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 17, 2016 07:34 PM (XZiSu)

124 >> Cut the federal advertising budget to zero, and
>> revoke the Ad Council's tax exempt status.

right after we crowdsource an audit of all NOAA's climate data.

Posted by: JEM at November 17, 2016 07:35 PM (TppKb)

125 That someone being who?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 17, 2016 07:31 PM (0F67M)

If you lie on your disclosure you are penalized, with fines sanction or in rare cases imprisonment.

Sort of like lying on your 4473 or your 1040.....

Notice the "template" part? The financial industry does this already.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2016 07:35 PM (42Mgr)

126 What's the going rate for a HILLARY CLINTON WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES tattoo?

How much would I save if I shortened it to HCWNBPOTUS?

Posted by: Hank at November 17, 2016 07:35 PM (ODWLo)

127 Then we send in the Media Certification SWAT team and shut them down. Just like any other federal agency would do.

Exactly. And here you thought the IRS was bad.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 17, 2016 07:36 PM (0F67M)

128 119 Cut the federal advertising budget to zero, and revoke the Ad Council's tax exempt status.

Watch hilarity ensue.
Posted by: filbert, checking in from down under at November 17, 2016 07:33 PM (J1Pis)

+++

Good idea. Like the advertisements airing in Mexico on how to get on food stamps in the U.S. - and help with filling out your voter registrations.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 17, 2016 07:36 PM (CFc5L)

129 That someone being who?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 17, 2016 07:31 PM (0F67M)

===

FCC Chairman Lou Dobbs!

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at November 17, 2016 07:36 PM (zu88C)

130 FCC Chairman John Koskinen

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 17, 2016 07:37 PM (0F67M)

131 117 76. Heh, between TKAW's Vikings and my bear-riding, whip-wielding Cossacks, this country would be in pretty good shape in about a week and change.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 17, 2016 07:33 PM (pKF9w)

I was reading a book about Ivan the Terrible & his enforcers would go around with brooms, to symbolize cleaning up the filth, and dog heads, to symbolize sniffing out his enemies.

Posted by: josephistan at November 17, 2016 07:37 PM (7qAYi)

132 Cut the federal advertising budget to zero, and revoke the Ad Council's tax exempt status.


I think our local radio station would go out of business if it wasn't for Ad Council commercials.

Posted by: freaked at November 17, 2016 07:38 PM (BO/km)

133 Or, Hillary Rodham Clinton is a kleptocrat in the mold of Tammany Hall, but without even a passing interest in the well-being of her constituents. That her two desires are power and riches, and if the country suffers an existential decline...so be it.

Well, that is a very uncharitable way of stating it.

The way I see it, I have supported righteous causes all my life chhosing a career in public service. So it's true I've allowed myself a few perks here and there like everybody else.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at November 17, 2016 07:38 PM (uz/Pv)

134 No one in academia or the Media has ever suffered any punishment for having a liberal opinion.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 17, 2016 07:38 PM (MZcWR)

135 That's the thing. We already know. It's always going to be like that. The media is the media because they love the media. We don't need more regulations to know that.
Posted by: freaked at November 17, 2016 07:33 PM (BO/km)


No. We really don't. They can always act like weasels and deny it, which is what they do now. But now their biases and will be part of the official public record.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 17, 2016 07:38 PM (XZiSu)

136 IRS chief John Koskinen says he was misled, doesn't deserve impeachment
===


See?



Happy Ending!



And Consequences.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at November 17, 2016 07:39 PM (zu88C)

137 Remember Eliot Spitzer?

He paid for it but never really paid for it.

Posted by: Client#9? at November 17, 2016 07:39 PM (8J/Te)

138 Is Hillary still not president?

Posted by: Northernlurker at November 17, 2016 07:40 PM (hJrjt)

139 I think we need to go to the original intent of the word "press"?

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 17, 2016 07:31 PM (BKTpn)


1A: Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...

Clearly, the original amendment was meant to apply only to printers using manual printing presses with handset type and selling broadsheets on the corner for a pence!

Posted by: Hrothgar (gab.ai) at November 17, 2016 07:40 PM (wCEn4)

140 Heh, between TKAW's Vikings and my bear-riding, whip-wielding Cossacks, this country would be in pretty good shape in about a week and change.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine
****

Heh. I would want lots of video of them in action for...research. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at November 17, 2016 07:40 PM (hVdx9)

141 131. Ivan Grozni warned in his way, we warned in ours.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 17, 2016 07:40 PM (pKF9w)

142 137
Remember Eliot Spitzer?



He paid for it but never really paid for it.

Posted by: Client#9?
====

Si!

Posted by: Silvio Berlusconi at November 17, 2016 07:41 PM (zu88C)

143 Ha ha ha

Letter to editor spoofs snowflakes

https://twitter.com/votermom/status/799412767035887617

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 17, 2016 07:41 PM (Om16U)

144 46 This election was like putting on the sunglasses in the movie THEY LIVE.

Posted by: #AlwaysTrump - Formerly #NeverHillary at November 17, 2016 07:14 PM (KLyOA)


That's why I've decided to keep the bumper sticker I put on during the campaign: THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU.

That's the only sticker I have. No Trump or anything else. It's just plain white lettering on a black background, so it looks nice and tasteful on my black bumper.

It's exactly like one of the signs in "They Live" seen with the dark glasses.

I think it would be nice if it caught on, like "Question Authority" during the 80s. What would happen if LIVs saw that message over and over wherever they went?

It's available at Zazzle.com. Go on. Buy one. You know you want to. (I didn't create it, so I'm not making money on it.)

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 17, 2016 07:42 PM (sdi6R)

145 140. Drones and gopros for the boys!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 17, 2016 07:42 PM (pKF9w)

146 Look up how many Federal agencies have armed teams now and tell me why they need them. There is a lot of cleaning out to do. The Dems tried to overwhelm the system, but it can be reversed.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 17, 2016 07:44 PM (6Ll1u)

147 The real issue is that most have been here so long that they've got at least one and probably multiple citizen kids. And no one is going to grab Mommy and Daddy and big-sis and throw them out while the two younger ones continue on in the US. Just not gonna happen.

So if you're gonna clean up the situation, it will take a generation to sort out, cutting off birthright citizenship would be a long battle if even possible, you have to keep the next generation of would-be anchor-baby-parents out.
Posted by: JEM at November 17, 2016 07:30 PM (TppKb)

Family Law is a 50billion a year industry breaking up children from their parents. This is done to citizens with Constitutional and Natural Rights.

Send the parents home and the kids follow. They will not want to become wards of the state.

Sucks but their parents committed a crime, so they should be better parents. Most US citizens lose their children in Family Courts without committing crimes.

I have zero sympathy for the plight of non citizens vs citizens of our country.

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 17, 2016 07:44 PM (BKTpn)

148 wut

I'm with grump up @90, this is a terrible idea. It smacks too much of "mandatory gun licensure isn't reeeeeally infringement now is it?"

I love this blog and urge y'all to stop obsessing over the media. Their day has passed.

Posted by: parsimony at November 17, 2016 07:44 PM (xEt5a)

149 Drones and gopros for the boys!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine
****

Gopros for sure. Drones? Maybe the smaller ones. They'll try to ride the large ones.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at November 17, 2016 07:44 PM (hVdx9)

150 'But now their biases and will be part of the official public record.'

I still don't like the idea of more regulations. I just take it by default that the press is full of crap but I guess some people may need more protection from journalists.

Posted by: freaked at November 17, 2016 07:45 PM (BO/km)

151 What's the going rate for a HILLARY CLINTON WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES tattoo?

How much would I save if I shortened it to HCWNBPOTUS?

Posted by: Hank


******


You can have both at Peter Piper's Penis Tattoo Parlor!

Posted by: Muldoon at November 17, 2016 07:45 PM (wPiJc)

152 TKAW - did I hear you got bit by the Tokarev bug? My (hopefully) future father in law fired a few mags outta my cz not long ago. He said 'well, if you miss, the fireball will blind him and set him on fire, and it's heavy enough to club him to death with.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 17, 2016 07:46 PM (pKF9w)

153 https://twitter.com/votermom/status/799412767035887617

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 17, 2016 07:41 PM (Om16U)



A thing of rare beauty!

Posted by: Hrothgar (gab.ai) at November 17, 2016 07:46 PM (wCEn4)

154 139 I think we need to go to the original intent of the word "press"?

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 17, 2016 07:31 PM (BKTpn)

1A: Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...

Clearly, the original amendment was meant to apply only to printers using manual printing presses with handset type and selling broadsheets on the corner for a pence!
Posted by: Hrothgar (gab.ai) at November 17, 2016 07:40 PM (wCEn4

LOL.LOL.

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 17, 2016 07:46 PM (BKTpn)

155 Let them go a few more rounds the way they are. They're all losing money and actually hurting the Democrats at this point. No sense throwing the scorpion a life line just yet.

Posted by: DaveA at November 17, 2016 07:47 PM (8J/Te)

156 Break up the cable monopolies. No would would actually pay to watch MSNBC or CNN if they weren't part of a "bundle"

Posted by: josephistan at November 17, 2016 07:47 PM (7qAYi)

157 I've been thinking about this a lot but don't have a fix.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at November 17, 2016 07:47 PM (BS8yt)

158 I remember public service announcements back in the 1960's for "Aliens must register." Haven't seen any of those in a while. I always thought outer space aliens when I heard them.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 17, 2016 07:48 PM (IqV8l)

159 And $360,000 is 3 months pay for HRC's 4th string lawyer.

Posted by: DaveA at November 17, 2016 07:48 PM (8J/Te)

160 You can have both at Peter Piper's Penis Tattoo Parlor!

Posted by: Muldoon at November 17, 2016 07:45 PM (wPiJc)


Bob Dole agrees but thinks Peter Piper's Penis Tattoo Parlor should specify this will happen in four hour increments!

Posted by: Bob Dole (gab.ai) at November 17, 2016 07:48 PM (wCEn4)

161 Posted by: parsimony at November 17, 2016 07:44 PM (xEt5a)

That's a fair point, but in my plan there is absolutely no prior restraint or any monitoring of content. Unlike gun laws which prevent my exercise of a God-given and natural right, this would simply mandate that journalists report connections that might influence their work. It does nothing to restrict or modify their exercise of their God-given right to free speech.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2016 07:48 PM (42Mgr)

162 The IRS needs to be whipped back into being a lawful tax collection agency.

There are three things that need to be done to do that.

1. Fire the Klown in chief Koskinen.
2. Prosecute Lois Lerner and the others involved in the Tax scandal.
3. Turn off both the heat and air conditioning in all IRS buildings until there is an attitude adjustment on the part of the employees.

Posted by: An Observation at November 17, 2016 07:49 PM (w0oFI)

163 158 I remember public service announcements back in the 1960's for "Aliens must register." Haven't seen any of those in a while. I always thought outer space aliens when I heard them.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 17, 2016 07:48 PM (IqV8l)

There are no alienssssss...

Posted by: Your Shapeshifting Reptilian Overlords at November 17, 2016 07:49 PM (7qAYi)

164 Is Hillary still not president?
Posted by: Northernlurker


Her kingdom is not of this world. Oh love her! Adore her! She is gracious and merciful! Behold Her divine splendor! I beseech you to know the ecstasy of of basking in the glory of her Being!

Posted by: Virigia Heffernan at November 17, 2016 07:49 PM (uz/Pv)

165 Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 17, 2016 07:28 PM (0F67M)

------------------------

And then a feminist killed him.

For Mansplainin

Posted by: The guy with the hair at November 17, 2016 07:49 PM (aAlFX)

166 You can have both at Peter Piper's Penis Tattoo Parlor!

Posted by: Muldoon
===


That's just hurtful.

Posted by: Silvio Berlusconi at November 17, 2016 07:49 PM (zu88C)

167 TKAW - did I hear you got bit by the Tokarev bug? My (hopefully) future father in law fired a few mags outta my cz not long ago. He said 'well, if you miss, the fireball will blind him and set him on fire, and it's heavy enough to club him to death with.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine
****

You heard right. The bug bit me years ago, but I finally scratched the itch. I've had it a very short while and have yet to shoot it. Love how simple it is. Nice to have another all metal handgun too.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at November 17, 2016 07:50 PM (hVdx9)

168 Hillary Rotten Palpatine is not president.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 17, 2016 07:50 PM (89T5c)

169 143 Ha ha ha

Letter to editor spoofs snowflakes

https://twitter.com/votermom/status/799412767035887617
Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 17, 2016 07:41 PM (Om16U)


Troll factor: Eleventy!!!!11!!

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 17, 2016 07:50 PM (sdi6R)

170 It does nothing to restrict or modify their exercise of their God-given right to free speech.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2016 07:48 PM (42Mgr)


As my old boss would have said, "That's the beauty of it!"

Posted by: Bob Dole (gab.ai) at November 17, 2016 07:50 PM (wCEn4)

171 There are no alienssssss...
Posted by: Your Shapeshifting Reptilian Overlords at November 17, 2016 07:49 PM (7qAYi)

+++

Then what the hell do you call that Carvelle thing?

Posted by: washrivergal at November 17, 2016 07:51 PM (CFc5L)

172 /prendere il mio calzino

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at November 17, 2016 07:51 PM (zu88C)

173 The best I can come up with is criminal prosecution of the heads of the media companies for not fulfilling their fiduciary responsibilities. That is they purposely make editorial decisions that financially harm their investors

Posted by: Make America Great Again at November 17, 2016 07:51 PM (BS8yt)

174 So did Trump win?? I had other stuff to do.

Posted by: Rumpled Foreskin at November 17, 2016 07:52 PM (n3hky)

175 Eboni Williams is smart. And hot.

Smot.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at November 17, 2016 07:52 PM (zu88C)

176 162
The IRS needs to be whipped back into being a lawful tax collection agency.



They can only be disbanded. Fire everyone. When government agencies are PURPOSEFULLY going after citizens, there's nothing short of completely eliminating the agency and forever barring those employees from ever getting another government paycheck, consultation fee, etc to fix the problem.



There's no forgiveness. There's no I'm sorry.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 17, 2016 07:52 PM (xWBUU)

177 That's pretty good MAGA but don't the investors pick the board?

Posted by: freaked at November 17, 2016 07:53 PM (BO/km)

178 ...this post just triggered something in my brain: wasnt keith olberman fired from MSNBC for donating money to a D politician? Because that (ahem) "hurt the credibility of the network"?

That concept seems to have gone by the wayside.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 17, 2016 07:53 PM (cJrMO)

179 167. Atta boy! Or cetacean, anyway. Think I mentioned my love for that calibre, even bought my angel a cz, she loved it so.

She giggles every time she fires, that amazing woman.

It's a hell of a nasty round.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 17, 2016 07:54 PM (pKF9w)

180 Votermom, nice find!

Good to know that at least some of the kids are alright!

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at November 17, 2016 07:54 PM (zu88C)

181 lou dobbs show is discussing litigation to prosecute sanctuary city mayors once one of their 'charges" murders someone. Kate Steineles's folks should be able to charge the mayor of San Francisco for accessory to murder. And charge Soros on RICO for inciting to riot.

Posted by: vivi at November 17, 2016 07:55 PM (11H2y)

182 I'm perfectly happy that they gave their money to HRC. Seems good to me. The witch (HRC) might have given them some return on their investment, but all-in-all I'm not very sorry that they backed the wrong horse. There are witches and then there are morons. Glad to be on the side of the 'rons.

Posted by: goon at November 17, 2016 07:56 PM (EaQ6/)

183 There has never been any reason for breaking up families. Ice/INS should send your kids with you . Maybe if some of these kids really cared about their heritage they might try to change their HOME country. You are an educated Hispanic, thanks to the American taxpayer, go make your cultural homeland a less corrupt system.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 17, 2016 07:56 PM (ucEiX)

184 Tonight, President Elect Trump and I had a talk and we're fine now, buy my book, and Dana and I have a tickle fight. Tonight at nine on The Kelly File.

Posted by: Megyn Kelly at November 17, 2016 07:23 PM (qJhUV)
.............

Did she get jealous when you guys shared Jasper?

Posted by: wth at November 17, 2016 07:56 PM (HgMAr)

185 Imagine this scenario, hipster NY Times reporter tries to infiltrate KKK to expose Trump. "Hello fellow haters". Don't Jew's suck?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 17, 2016 07:56 PM (6Ll1u)

186 https://twitter.com/votermom/status/799412767035887617
Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 17, 2016 07:41 PM (Om16U)

"We don't feel safe anymore. We don't beat Alabama anymore. "

I'm dying here. This has to be a troll.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at November 17, 2016 07:56 PM (D2vc1)

187 168. Ahem.....she's no kin to me, and the Sith would never trust her.

Slander, sir! Slander!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 17, 2016 07:57 PM (pKF9w)

188 Goth Fonzie on Kennedy. Complete with leather jacket.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 17, 2016 07:57 PM (IqV8l)

189 I like the idea of picking a paper....like the Washpost, and going after all their advertisers. Or the NYTimes.

Posted by: vivi at November 17, 2016 07:57 PM (11H2y)

190 The freedom of the press....

Un-bundle all cable and satellite TV servers and let freedom ring.

Hillary in prison yet?



Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 17, 2016 07:58 PM (ej1L0)

191 OT: Normally I'm not a big Guns N Roses guy but this one touched me deep inside.

https://tinyurl.com/hob32ek

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at November 17, 2016 07:58 PM (Nwg0u)

192 heh. re: Lena Dunham's 'Vision Quest'

ZH

While we wish her the best of luck as she wanders aimlessly in the desert, we would just like to remind Dunham that travel arrangements are still set to the extent she wants to follow through on her pledge to move to Vancouver.

I have a Gulfstream V waiting for you to leave the US. I assume you eat for the equivalent of 5. A chef will be on board. @lenadunham

- Martin Shkreli (@MartinShkreli) November 11, 2016

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at November 17, 2016 07:58 PM (zu88C)

193 I guess they do. I just think it's time to treat media corporations as just that, corporations. The right to a free press shouldn't shield from malfeasance.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at November 17, 2016 07:58 PM (BS8yt)

194 I don't think anyone's talking about curtailing freedom of the press. Just labeling them as to who they vote for, who they give money to, who they are related to who is in what position of power, etc.

Some years back I was at the gym and CNN had some interview show. Van Jones and Ben Carson were two of the guests, I don't remember the others.

Ben Carson's label was "Conservative Neurosurgeon."

Van Jones was "Director, [some org or another]" He wasn't labeled, "Communist Head of [whatever]"

That would be a step in the right direction.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 17, 2016 07:59 PM (MZcWR)

195 171 There are no alienssssss...
Posted by: Your Shapeshifting Reptilian Overlords at November 17, 2016 07:49 PM (7qAYi)

+++

Then what the hell do you call that Carvelle thing?
Posted by: washrivergal at November 17, 2016 07:51 PM (CFc5L)

And MeAgain Kelly's head looks like a closeup of a Praying Mantis, which is a insect type reptile.

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 17, 2016 07:59 PM (BKTpn)

196 190
The freedom of the press....


Un-bundle all cable and satellite TV servers and let freedom ring.


Hillary in prison yet?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy
======


Seriously.

This would solve practically everything.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at November 17, 2016 07:59 PM (zu88C)

197 this would simply mandate that journalists report connections that might influence their work.

How about what little right media there is does so voluntarily. Might shame a few loose.

Posted by: DaveA at November 17, 2016 07:59 PM (8J/Te)

198 >>>That they are in the thrall of the ruling party bothers them not a whit.

But they're the good guys so it doesn't matter.

Posted by: MSM at November 17, 2016 08:00 PM (uz/Pv)

199 Atta boy! Or cetacean, anyway. Think I mentioned my love for that calibre, even bought my angel a cz, she loved it so.

She giggles every time she fires, that amazing woman.

It's a hell of a nasty round.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine
****

Definitely a round to be respected.
Still have the CZ too. Heh.
I recently discovered I had about 600 rounds of the surplus stuff. It was so cheap at the time I would have a pack or two of it added to ammo orders. Next thing you know...
I may eventually take a crack at hand loading 7.62x25. Apparently most of the commercial stuff these days is on the weaker side: 1200-1300 FPS.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at November 17, 2016 08:00 PM (hVdx9)

200 Speaking of all metal handguns, I have a nice 1945 production Remington Rand 1911 that's headed to the range with me this weekend.

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2016 08:03 PM (Sfs6o)

201 Evenin', fappers. I got nothin'.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 17, 2016 08:03 PM (0mRoj)

202 They can only be disbanded. Fire everyone. When
government agencies are PURPOSEFULLY going after citizens, there's
nothing short of completely eliminating the agency and forever barring
those employees from ever getting another government paycheck,
consultation fee, etc to fix the problem.



There's no forgiveness. There's no I'm sorry.


Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 17, 2016 07:52 PM (xWBUU)


That^ a million times over. The goverment has become organized crime with the IRS as it's enforcer.

Posted by: Mimzey at November 17, 2016 08:04 PM (n3hky)

203 If Romney becomes Secretary of State he will just go overseas and ally with some nameless idiot he will fund personally to fight against Trump.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at November 17, 2016 08:04 PM (zu88C)

204 Not sure if anyone has brought up the discussion of the left's so called "Fake News" crusade,

but I for one agree, this "fake news" BS has to stop.

The Daily Show

The Colbert Report

SNL Weekend Update.

I mean, FFS, they had Stephen Colbert appear in from of a senate inquiry, in character. And they thought it was brilliant.

I say NQFY. I hope they all choke on the cum they swallow for the next 4 years

Posted by: Rick in SK at November 17, 2016 08:05 PM (K2T58)

205 191 OT: Normally I'm not a big Guns N Roses guy but this one touched me deep inside.

https://tinyurl.com/hob32ek



I've watched this video 47 times and I don't see what the big deal is. Now if you excuse me, I need to watch it again, maybe I missed something.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 17, 2016 08:05 PM (eFNea)

206 Speaking of all metal handguns, I have a nice 1945 production Remington Rand 1911 that's headed to the range with me this weekend.

Posted by: Weasel
****

You, you...WEASEL!
No, not at all jealous...

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at November 17, 2016 08:06 PM (hVdx9)

207 202
That^ a million times over. The goverment has become organized crime with the IRS as it's enforcer.
Posted by: Mimzey at November 17, 2016 08:04 PM (n3hky)


The same goes for the EPA. It's full of radical anti-capitalist lawyers and activists. It cannot be reformed. Burn it to the ground.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 17, 2016 08:06 PM (sdi6R)

208 199. It's worth doing, handloading. I can do better than the Bulgarian surplus stuff, anyway..... not as good as the prvi partizan, but I'm working on it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 17, 2016 08:06 PM (pKF9w)

209 Peck of pickled peppers = BoD? I'm confused.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 17, 2016 08:07 PM (uz/Pv)

210 Could Trump's Press Secretary do that?

"I will now take a question from little Georgie Snufflepuss, head of Clinton Campaign, employee of ABC, whose collective donations to Secretary Clinton's campaign were 90 times more than donations to mine."

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 08:07 PM (afWd1)

211 Imagine this scenario, hipster NY Times reporter tries to infiltrate KKK
to expose Trump. "Hello fellow haters". Don't Jew's suck?

...and he ends up at the World Series.

Posted by: tu3031 at November 17, 2016 08:08 PM (qJhUV)

212 Imagine this scenario, hipster NY Times reporter tries to infiltrate KKK to expose Trump. "Hello fellow haters". Don't Jew's suck?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 17, 2016 07:56 PM (6Ll1u)


Ha! I remember one day a few months back some troll/moby showed up here and tried to bona fide himself by saying "I watch Fox News just like you." That, as they say, was a tell.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 17, 2016 08:08 PM (XZiSu)

213 It's worth doing, handloading. I can do better than the Bulgarian surplus stuff, anyway..... not as good as the prvi partizan, but I'm working on it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine
****

Funny you mention the Bulgy stuff. I have it separated from the rest of my ammo. Tons of cracked cases. I want a bang not an earth shattering kaboom.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at November 17, 2016 08:10 PM (hVdx9)

214 Could Trump's Press Secretary do that?

"I will now take a question from little Georgie Snufflepuss, head of Clinton Campaign, employee of ABC, whose collective donations to Secretary Clinton's campaign were 90 times more than donations to mine."
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 08:07 PM (afWd1)

=======

Pretty sure that would ensure a large annual bonus in the Trump Administration.

Posted by: Flyboy at November 17, 2016 08:11 PM (U77o1)

215 so now that Trump has 'won' how will all those kids out their wanting yuuge govt go? will they now fear their yuuuge govt?

Posted by: willow at November 17, 2016 08:11 PM (R7cwD)

216 205 191 OT: Normally I'm not a big Guns N Roses guy but this one touched me deep inside.

https://tinyurl.com/hob32ek


I've watched this video 47 times and I don't see what the big deal is. Now if you excuse me, I need to watch it again, maybe I missed something.
Posted by: Puddleglum at November 17, 2016 08:05 PM (eFNea)

Needed more cowbell.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 17, 2016 08:11 PM (0mRoj)

217 Ok. I am off for a bit to do some cardio. Damned pita chips go straight to my thighs.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at November 17, 2016 08:11 PM (hVdx9)

218 Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at November 17, 2016 08:06 PM (hVdx9)
-------------
How's it going Tilikum?
I've declared it WWII weekend! Taking the M1, M1Carbine and the 1911A1.

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2016 08:12 PM (Sfs6o)

219 213. Yeah...fine people, I'm sure, but perhaps not the best at making ammo, the Bulgarians.

Prvi Partizan - Serbia for the win!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 17, 2016 08:13 PM (pKF9w)

220 How about removing government immunity for intentionally refusing to enforce the law? In other words, making mayors who refuse to enforce immigration law personally liable for the criminal activities of the criminals to whom they are giving sanctuary? IRS thugs personally liable for intentional infliction of emotional distress when they go after people for political reasons? A few highly publicized cases would change that behavior right quick.

Posted by: Goldilocks at November 17, 2016 08:14 PM (pOgVG)

221 219 213. Yeah...fine people, I'm sure, but perhaps not the best at making ammo, the Bulgarians.

Prvi Partizan - Serbia for the win!
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 17, 2016 08:13 PM (pKF9w)

Damn good ammo at a decent price.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 17, 2016 08:14 PM (0mRoj)

222 Okay, I'm going to put this out there since I have not done it yet: Hillary Clinton will never be the President of the United States. Oh, glory!

Posted by: washrivergal at November 17, 2016 08:14 PM (CFc5L)

223 Prvi Partizan - When you have people to kill.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 17, 2016 08:15 PM (0F67M)

224 Imagine the worst hybrid possible.

https://tinyurl.com/hfq3ywt

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at November 17, 2016 08:15 PM (Nwg0u)

225 Posted by: Goldilocks at November 17, 2016 08:14 PM (pOgVG)


====

I think this is a fine idea.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 17, 2016 08:15 PM (CFc5L)

226 so glad the Nevertrumpers failed.



SO glad.



Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at November 17, 2016 08:16 PM (zu88C)

227 218. I had a chance, some years back, to pick up an M1 carbine. I wake every morning and try not to think about that missed opportunity.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 17, 2016 08:16 PM (pKF9w)

228 great, more hypeidiocy for thursday nite football. is anyone really this stupid?

Posted by: Caliban at November 17, 2016 08:17 PM (3GFMN)

229 WHO POSSIBLY COULD HAVE FORESEEN IT?


Breitbart:
Three Pakistani Men Apprehended in U.S. at Arizona Border

"One of them had a shit load of hits from a bunch of places he's been. He had entered and exited numerous countries that were not in his route to the U.S. This raises red flags because people leaving a foreign country to come here usually take the quickest route, but one of them did not," said one of the sources.

The source continued, "One of the men had his hair died blonde to disguise his appearance and all of the men spoke perfect English."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 17, 2016 08:17 PM (Yg871)

230 great, more hypeidiocy for thursday nite football.


******

In what way?


Are they still wearing the crayon uniforms?

Posted by: Muldoon at November 17, 2016 08:18 PM (wPiJc)

231 iPosted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at November 17, 2016 08:15 PM (Nwg0u)

Not authorized to download, wtf?

Posted by: Hrothgar (gab.ai) at November 17, 2016 08:18 PM (wCEn4)

232 223. Like the fellow said, 'strong enough for war criminals, made for export.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 17, 2016 08:19 PM (pKF9w)

233 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 17, 2016 08:16 PM (pKF9w)
------------
The M1Carbine is a really cool little rifle and a lot of fun to shoot. I see them for sale from time to time but they're getting pricey.

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2016 08:19 PM (Sfs6o)

234 My angel at the range with her CZ52:

*bang, fireball* tee-hee x8

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 17, 2016 08:21 PM (pKF9w)

235 81
'Who's going to make sure the disclosures are correct and complete?'

*****

the election proved that most people hate them and nobody can trust them, so disclosures are completely irrelevant.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 17, 2016 08:22 PM (18h+i)

236 220 How about removing government immunity for intentionally refusing to enforce the law? In other words, making mayors who refuse to enforce immigration law personally liable for the criminal activities of the criminals to whom they are giving sanctuary? IRS thugs personally liable for intentional infliction of emotional distress when they go after people for political reasons? A few highly publicized cases would change that behavior right quick.
Posted by: Goldilocks at November 17, 2016 08:14 PM (pOgVG)



I like it. Aren't cops personally liable if they break the law in violating someone's civil rights? I'm thinking "precedent" here.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 08:22 PM (SRKgf)

237 Atta boy! Or cetacean, anyway. Think I mentioned my love for that calibre, even bought my angel a cz, she loved it so.
She giggles every time she fires, that amazing woman.
It's a hell of a nasty round.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine

Yup....Old Cz-52 Czech Army surplus with a nasty old frosty barrel of mine is still dead on accurate out to 40 feet and built like a tank. Aftermarket firing pin will be next but the original is still unbroken so kudos to CZ for making a most under-rated pistol.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 17, 2016 08:24 PM (ej1L0)

238 Damn good ammo at a decent price.

Their .223 Match stuff is AR-excellent.

Posted by: The Duke of Mish at November 17, 2016 08:25 PM (Tyii7)

239 If Romney becomes Secretary of State he will just go overseas and ally with some nameless idiot he will fund personally to fight against Trump.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at November 17, 2016 08:04 PM (zu88C)



Benjamin Netanyahu and Ariel Sharon were bitter rivals yet Sharon put him in as Finance Minister.

Posted by: gNewt...laughing at State Media's bare feet at November 17, 2016 08:26 PM (HIDKl)

240 magine the worst hybrid possible.
https://tinyurl.com/hfq3ywt
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at November 17, 2016 08:15 PM (Nwg0u)


All of these "Pilot's Pub" links you post say I am not authorized to download the attachment.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 17, 2016 08:26 PM (XZiSu)

241 Noookle

Posted by: freaked at November 17, 2016 08:28 PM (BO/km)

242 240 magine the worst hybrid possible.
https://tinyurl.com/hfq3ywt
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at November 17, 2016 08:15 PM (Nwg0u)

All of these "Pilot's Pub" links you post say I am not authorized to download the attachment.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 17, 2016 08:26 PM (XZiSu)


Yeah, I got that too.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 17, 2016 08:28 PM (sdi6R)

243 The big networks benefit from the. Broadcast TV spectrum allocation being isolated from cell phones. Make them bid against each other.

Posted by: Jean at November 17, 2016 08:28 PM (2RVmA)

244
The "fear" the Left is feeling today is similar to the fear a criminal feels after he's caught and convicted and thrown into a prison.

It's the same fear an evil man such as Saddam Hussein felt after his reign of terror was over and he was forced into hiding.

The little shit young anarchists/leftists/thugs/sjw's have been getting away with all their bad behavior because we have No Leadership in this country anymore. Now they're "afraid" alright, afraid of their comeuppance.

And that's what their tears are about.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2016 08:28 PM (uUXAI)

245 Supermoon sure is scary big. Go away, smod. We don't need you at the moment.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 17, 2016 08:28 PM (uz/Pv)

246 Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at November 17, 2016 08:15 PM (Nwg0u)

Not authorized to download, wtf?

-
My webfu reach exceeded my webfu grasp

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at November 17, 2016 08:28 PM (Nwg0u)

247 237. I've got two. One for the house, one for travel. Built like a tank, that pistol is, and really far better than it needed to be.

Amazing, the Czechs and their firearms. First rate stuff.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 17, 2016 08:29 PM (pKF9w)

248
Re: Romney

Selecting Mitt Romney as soc sec would be as big a mistake for Trump as Bush selecting Colon Powell.

Trump ain't no Bush. That why it will never happen.

Sec State is a HUGE prize -- Trump will NEVER award such a prize to Mitt Romney when many other people deserve it.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2016 08:30 PM (uUXAI)

249
And now the fake news is going after Sen Jeff Sessions.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2016 08:31 PM (uUXAI)

250
nood

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2016 08:32 PM (uUXAI)

251 >>Sec State is a HUGE prize -- Trump will NEVER award such a prize to Mitt Romney when many other people deserve it.

Hopefully, Trump will be focused on who will do the best job. No matter who gets what job, I'd like to get away from the spoils system and have the most competent people in the jobs.

Drain the swamp should actually mean something.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 17, 2016 08:33 PM (/tuJf)

252 89 I run Bartertown.

Posted by: Janet Yellen at November 17, 2016 07:25 PM (hA1V+)

That is wicked funny on so many levels.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at November 17, 2016 08:33 PM (ocw+t)

253 If Romney becomes Secretary of State he will just go overseas and ally with some nameless idiot he will fund personally to fight against Trump.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at November 17, 2016 08:04 PM (zu88C)



It's important to understand that yesterday's enemy can be tomorrow's friend, and the day after that's enemy again.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 08:35 PM (SRKgf)

254 Sec State is a HUGE prize -- Trump will NEVER award such a prize to Mitt Romney when many other people deserve it.


Irrational. It's not a prize to be conferred as a reward; the question is who can do the best job to advance America's interests and make Trump look good.

I don't know if Romney is that person, but if that person (somehow!) were Van Jones, then I'd say Van Jones it is.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 08:37 PM (SRKgf)

255 Bottom line: it's important to keep ego out of this, and keep one's eye on the ball. Not settling old scores, or rewarding old friends.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 08:38 PM (SRKgf)

256 Nicely done

Posted by: Joe at November 17, 2016 08:45 PM (vhbai)

257 Its all sort of self regulating. No, i am not kidding, Newsweek changed hands for $1, which is less than buying one issue off the news stand. Nobody reads that. Shultzberger or what ever his name is can print campaign flyers for Hillary and stamp New York Times on it until he's broke because nobody's buying that, either. It must suck, spending all night with a noisy printing press 4 stories under New York, getting dirty and sweaty,printing a paper that's going to get recycled instead of read. But, hey, its a union gig, right?

Posted by: hurricane567 at November 17, 2016 08:46 PM (6de7J)

258 Common sense Media Control.

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 17, 2016 08:47 PM (v3DL/)

259 This column
should put this blog on the map
because
there is some fresh thinking. Impressive.

Posted by: Mongerel at November 17, 2016 08:56 PM (eHMbN)

260 Way past time to reevaluate 1st amendment libel laws and gain some control over these playground bully's like by taking away their job, house, car and cocaine.

Posted by: Anchovy at November 17, 2016 11:05 PM (c86/W)

261 WOW CBD. nicely done! Interesting, provocative, and thought-provoking.

Lurk mode on............

Posted by: Lurker3 at November 17, 2016 11:26 PM (NJDRi)

262 The only thing wrong with this is that it is no longer needed. It might even hurt us. Throughout my lifetime, until 2016, the MSM has been a handicap to conservatives (and even moderate Republicans). Sometimes we could overcome it, but it always took a toll. (Wonder how Ronnie would have done with a balanced media. Probably about as well as the 1927 Yankees would have done in a college league.)

But that changed. For the first time, the media's attacks seem to have helped us and hurt them. Their credibility has been hit, and it looks as if they are determined to hit themselves harder. So why stop them now?

Posted by: George at November 18, 2016 06:02 AM (+TcCF)

263 They should also be required to acknowledge union membership and any family connection they have to unions, including, especially, government unions (teachers)....

Posted by: Devan at November 18, 2016 09:31 AM (kC+1/)

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Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
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John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
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Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
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Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
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