Important Question for the GOP "Intellectual" Class: What Percentage of the GOP Do You Estimate Actually Are Irredeemably Racist Deplorables?

There are several possible answers to this.

One answer -- which "Consistent Conservatives" used to offer as a matter of course -- is that of course there are some racists and anti-Semites in the GOP, or at least who try to mix in GOP circles, but 1, this is a small fraction of the GOP, a fringe which has no power nor influence, and 2, the Democrat Party has a roughly equal fraction of racists and anti-Semites. Probably more, actually.

Witness Obama's condemnation of those ill-educated racists of Pennsylvania who "cling bitterly to their guns and religion" and harbor a hatred of those who look different or hail from different countries.

Another possible answer is that there are so many racists -- or near-racists ready to become full racists are soon as the Go Sign, the Racist Bat Signal, is flashed up to the sky -- that it requires the extreme measure of throwing a presidential election to make sure that this faction is checked and the party is kept from being "hijacked" by this largish force.

No conservatives have previously claimed this -- though a lot of ex-conservatives have claimed it on their way out the door, in their The Party Left Me salutation.

So for the NeverTrumpers making the argument that Trump must be stopped to keep this faction from being "empowered:"

Just how large of a force do you think these Racist, Anti-Semitic GOPers constitute?

Apparently the latter -- apparently it's such a large fraction that if they are given any succor, anything that Team Racist can call a "win" on Twitter, the party will naturally and inexorably join the Dark Side and hate on minorities.

So it seems that question is answered, by implication.

So let me ask you some more interesting questions:

1. At what point did you realize the party was jam-packed full of racists and anti-semites, so many, in fact, that it becomes a moral necessity to tank an election to prevent them from taking over the country?

Have you always suspected this? Or did this revelation occur the day Trump won enough delegates to become nominee?

And if it's the latter: Do you think maybe you're living in the echoes of a powerful emotional experience, and perhaps should discount your emotional response a little bit?

2. Do you think that, after you successfully throw the election to Hillary, all these racist voters can be successfully re-programmed to be non-racist?

Or do you just hope to use the racists for more useful ends, such as being needed votes for TPP and amnesty and bombing Syria or whatever?

On that last point: If you intend to re-assimilate the racists into your party to regain political power, but use them to your own ends, you're still kinda depending on/courting these racists, aren't you?

3. Assuming, once again, you agree that the party is so stocked with racists and anti-semites that it's necessary to throw an election to keep their twisted claws off any kind of real political power: In what sense do you disagree with Hillary Clinton's claim that "about half" of Trump's supporters could be put into a "basket of deplorables," irredeemable in their racism?

It seems to me the only sense you could disagree with her is in an insincere sense. You would disagree out of obligation -- without actually finding any large error in her claim. Maybe you'd disagree it's not one half of Trump voters; merely two fifths.

4. If you really believe the party is this stuffed with Jim Crow revanchists, White Supremacists, and outright Nazis -- what could possibly compel you to remain part of such a disgusting company?

I know if I believed those premises, I wouldn't stay.

I know, for example, that I now believe the party to be controlled by people with very deep cultural sympathies to the urban left, to such an extent they feel more of a tribal loyalty to the left than with the party they ostensibly champion - and that alone is enough to drive me out of the party.

I personally have no more emotional attachment to it -- and note that my objection is a lot less serious than objecting that it's a nest of vicious racists.

So what's keeping you guys here, if the party is indeed so filled with irredeemable deplorables?

Open Thread.

I expect absolutely no answers to these questions, by the way.

It has become the practice that the conservative media, like the liberal media it shares so many affinities and inclinations with, to ignore any impertinent questions from the cultural inferiors whose opinions must be managed, guided, and kept on the road via cultural guard-rails.

PS: Bonus:

5. We're still all claiming the Southern Strategy wasn't racist though, right? We're all still on board with that spin, huh?

PPS: Are you guys who think the party is chock-a-block with racists sure you're not just spending too much time on Twitter?

Yes, it was a weird, alarming thing when several hundred "CelticWarrior69" and "OdinsTears77" accounts sprung up at once and began tweeting out racist and anti-semitic memes.

But many of you suspect -- with good reason-- that many of those accounts are actually bogus accounts created by Russian Intelligence to fuck with American politics.

So... why are they being treated as real in some circumstances, and fake in others?

Also: Do you not get that Twitter isn't real?

It's, at most, a simulacrum of the real world. It is emphatically not the real world, however.

You know that, right?

The map is not the territory, guys.

The map is not the territory.

Posted by: Ace at 07:20 PM

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1 Yo

Posted by: Michael the Deplorable TEXIT at October 06, 2016 07:37 PM (nvMvs)

2 Oh look a new thread...'YAY'!

Posted by: Bill Mike Tom Bart at October 06, 2016 07:38 PM (mkx2w)

3 The hysterical paranoia over racism is the folly of our age.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 06, 2016 07:39 PM (V3IFq)

4 Prediction: We shall soon have a rare sighting of the dreaded PPPS.

Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at October 06, 2016 07:39 PM (8ZskC)

5 Like my old cat, I didn't leave the Republican party, it left me. And I couldn't be happier.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 06, 2016 07:40 PM (ppaKI)

6

I, for one, have to admit these conserverative blog owners have a way with words.

Posted by: Wu Lu at October 06, 2016 07:40 PM (FQxjd)

7 Heh. Ace said succor.

Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at October 06, 2016 07:40 PM (8ZskC)

8 Hello, my name is Eromero and I'm a deplorable.

Posted by: Eromero at October 06, 2016 07:40 PM (zLDYs)

9 How many Manhattanites have left the Acela corridor?
How many have been more than 50 miles from NYC?
Or any major city? I forget, we're flyover country, you fly a lot.
Ever taken a cross-country road trip over land? Longer than 100 miles?

Funny how the "global elite" tend to be so damn parochial.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Deplorable Guy at October 06, 2016 07:41 PM (vyqqu)

10 And if someone mentions knees, is it okay if we immediately laugh at gay people?

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at October 06, 2016 07:41 PM (x4zgf)

11 Kathy Shelton, 12 yo rape victim, probably qualifies as the first of many of hillary's deplorables.

Posted by: ever at October 06, 2016 07:42 PM (kronK)

12 I live within two hours of baskets of deplorables.

Posted by: Hillary at October 06, 2016 07:42 PM (7wyDO)

13 Knocked out of top 10 for reading the content.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 06, 2016 07:42 PM (MVMBM)

14 "Just saw footage of folks in a Florida trailer park putting plywood up on the windows of their trailers..."

Sounds like Trump voters right there.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 06, 2016 07:42 PM (J+eG2)

15 So what's keeping you guys here, if the party is indeed so filled with irredeemable deplorables?
.............

The easy wimmen.

Posted by: wth at October 06, 2016 07:43 PM (HgMAr)

16 Since this is an open thread, can I ask a dumb question that probably everyone knows the answer to except me?

It's regarding the shooting contest that Jim is doing. My question is: why is it called a postal match?

I can only think of one possible explanation, and it's not really a possible explanation.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 07:43 PM (xpSCc)

17 "Chock a block"

That should be used more in every day speech.

Posted by: fluffy at October 06, 2016 07:44 PM (eiFlk)

18 Orwellian (in the everyday fashion we are now accustomed to).

We have a grossly and crudely racist president, soiling the office with brazen race-baiting, his party utterly dependent on this racist agitation for its status as a national party (without the robotic racist black vote %, and that of stupid and ignorant suburban whites, Dems are barely a national party).

But ..... rejecting the comically unfit non-entities the Beltway favored in the primaries, and daring to speak common sense on policy involving mass illegal migration - THAT signals a racism problem.

Racism and race-baiting are a gigantic, key pillar of the Dems' very existence as a party. They are not a meaningful factor in any part or geographic region of the GOP.

Obviously.

But the Poles attacked our radio station in the wee hours last night, really. We just had to respond.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 06, 2016 07:44 PM (QDnY+)

19 Important Question for the GOP "Intellectual" Class: What Percentage
of the GOP Do You Estimate Actually Are Irredeemably Racist
Deplorables?
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Easy .

One basket full.

Posted by: Krautkrammer at October 06, 2016 07:44 PM (zu88C)

20 "Chock a block"

That should be used more in every day speech.
Posted by: fluffy at October 06, 2016 07:44 PM (eiFlk)
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So should "revanchist." Good word. Not easy to work into everyday conversation, though.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 07:44 PM (xpSCc)

21 Sheep are fine, you just can't give them power! If they do, that's why God gave us mutton.

Thanks for playing, rubes!

Posted by: trev006 at October 06, 2016 07:44 PM (G1DOK)

22 I should note: There is and never was such a thing as the "Southern Strategy."

It was and remains a revision of history by the leftists to explain why, after over 100 years of voting straight Democratic, the South began to vote Republican.

Rather than blame the far-left shift of their party, away from middle-class and working class issues, they blame racism.

It is, as was earlier said: Rather than admit there were and are rational reasons for Southern whites to leave the Democratic Party--and then have to argue the actual merits--they defaulted to the causal slur to avoid the truth.

I mean, how stupid is it to say, "all these millions and millions of Southern whites were _not_racists_ when they were voting for the Democrat." But, now that they vote for a Republican, they're now racists?

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 06, 2016 07:45 PM (e2Rx3)

23 Ace, I've heard a lot of liberals yap about the Southern Strategy. The problem is there never was such a thing.

The Republican move in the south began in the late forties as it became more urban than rural. It wasn't until the last few years that some deep south states began to consistently vote Republican, other than in presidential elections.

Posted by: Michael the Deplorable TEXIT at October 06, 2016 07:45 PM (nvMvs)

24 I wouldn't know. Apparently I've never left London. The guy knocking on all those doors in Boulder County was a remote-controlled homoncu-hobo.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 06, 2016 07:45 PM (6FqZa)

25 I know, for example, that I now believe the party to be controlled by people with very deep
cultural sympathies to the urban left, to such an extent they feel more
of a tribal loyalty to the left than with the party they ostensibly
champion - and that alone is enough to drive me out of the party.]

amen

Posted by: Krautkrammer at October 06, 2016 07:45 PM (zu88C)

26 My question is: why is it called a postal match?

You have to mail him, as in US Postal Service, the target you shoot up.

Like Chess by mail. You have to mail a post card with your next move on it.

Old fashioned, in this digital age when digital images can be transmitted electronically in mere seconds, but those are the rules.

Posted by: Wu Lu at October 06, 2016 07:46 PM (FQxjd)

27 "The map is not the territory."

TRUE---THE TERRITORY LIES WITHIN US

Posted by: rld77 WAY down south at October 06, 2016 07:46 PM (AYsT4)

28 THE GPS IS NOT THE MAP

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at October 06, 2016 07:46 PM (U0lQa)

29 I believe that the term most often used by our intellectual superiors for the riffraff bigoted underclass is "useful idiots".

Posted by: huerfano at October 06, 2016 07:46 PM (jkkMG)

30 The elites may think you are racist trash, but they never seem to have any trouble spilling your child's blood in wars from which they and their friends profit.

Posted by: ever at October 06, 2016 07:46 PM (kronK)

31 So what's keeping you guys here, if the party is indeed so filled with irredeemable deplorables?
.........

fuckin car broke and I can't make the next town

Posted by: wth at October 06, 2016 07:47 PM (HgMAr)

32 Old fashioned, in this digital age when digital images can be transmitted electronically in mere seconds, but those are the rules.
Posted by: Wu Lu at October 06, 2016 07:46 PM (FQxjd)
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Ah, okay. Thank you.

Stupid question number two: aren't you supposed to email him a picture of the target, rather than snail mailing it?

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 07:47 PM (xpSCc)

33 Obviously.

But the Poles attacked our radio station in the wee hours last night, really. We just had to respond.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 06, 2016 07:44 PM (QDnY+)
If only George Bush had used that excuse...he might still be President

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at October 06, 2016 07:47 PM (7N6ox)

34 Okay, people are becoming unraveled out there.

I was accused of being a 'trumpie stooge' by some mouth-breather on an Instapundit comment string, because I was slagging that man-bitch Jeff Jacoby for being a Hitlery stooge.

Jeff is the guy, journalism professor no less, that opined that JournoListas everywhere are justified to throw all possible taint of objectivity to the four winds in order to stem the rise of Dreamsicle Hitler. Because, Holocaust, people!

Yeah.

That makes Jeff a stooge for the oppo, son. Not too hard to figure out.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at October 06, 2016 07:47 PM (nd1zx)

35
Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 07:43 PM (xpSCc)

I don't know either but i assume its because its conducted in many diiirent locations and results are mailed in

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 06, 2016 07:47 PM (lKyWE)

36 1. At what point did you realize the party was jam-packed full of racists and anti-semites, so many, in fact, that it becomes a moral necessity to tank an election to prevent them from taking over the country?

Have you always suspected this?

I noticed right after 9/11 that the political class was very concerned about anti-Muslim backlash from the American people. And if there was ever a time to seal the border, it was then. 90% of the American people would have supported it wholeheartedly.

But the elites did the exact opposite. They threw open the borders, and increased Muslim immigration. This began long before Obama came along.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 06, 2016 07:48 PM (sdi6R)

37 The elites may think you are racist trash, but they never seem to have any trouble spilling your child's blood in wars from which they and their friends profit.

Posted by: ever at October 06, 2016 07:46 PM (kronK)

This.

Posted by: Cindy Sheehan at October 06, 2016 07:48 PM (8ZskC)

38 Ace said open thread so I need to hordesource.

Son got hit in rear of his Mustang. No fault of his own. Car is totaled he is ok. At fault party's insurance has been dicking us around over two weeks, on 4th adjuster. They don't want to pay enough to replace the car with an equivalent. They are offering 3k and I want 4.

I can wait while they pay for the car to sit in storage. Any advice, which I will take with a barrel of salt, from the horde?

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 07:48 PM (BO/km)

39 One part of the NT'er crowd: they're mistaking American patriotism for Old World "blood and soil" patriotism, which it is NOT.

America is, or was, a "creedal nation," one based on, yes, Anglo-Saxon Protestant morality, but also on the Enlightenment ideal of self-government and FREEDOM, Power to the Citizens, baby. We are supposed to rule our government, Not the other way around.

But some of the Nattering Nabobs just don't get that: you know, the ones who throw their skirts up over their heads and start screeching about Hitler when Kate Smith sings "God Bless America" (written by that wacist, Irving Berlin, natch).

Posted by: Beverly at October 06, 2016 07:48 PM (abPPI)

40 Stupid question number two: aren't you supposed to email him a picture of the target, rather than snail mailing it?

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You got me there. I only read the headlines.

Posted by: Wu Lu at October 06, 2016 07:48 PM (FQxjd)

41 I wouldn't know. Apparently I've never left London. The guy knocking on all those doors in Boulder County was a remote-controlled homoncu-hobo.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 06, 2016 07:45 PM (6FqZa)
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Ah, you are a Brit! I thought you were a Canuck, the way you (mis)spell certain words.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 07:49 PM (xpSCc)

42 Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 06, 2016 07:48 PM (sdi6R)

Nailed it.

Posted by: washrivergal madly and deeply deplorable at October 06, 2016 07:49 PM (CFc5L)

43 David Duke puts butter in his coffee, just like Ace does!!!

Nuff said.

Posted by: Jen Rubin at October 06, 2016 07:49 PM (fgOnp)

44 Also the KKK was Democrats and Nazis were Socialists.

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 07:49 PM (BO/km)

45 I expect absolutely no answers to these questions, by the way.
............

Phew.
Thought I might have to leave town.

Posted by: wth at October 06, 2016 07:50 PM (HgMAr)

46 New Progressive Insurance ad campaign:

**Bright, sprightly yet annoying music**

"So easy a Trump voter can do it!"

Posted by: Meremortal.... at October 06, 2016 07:50 PM (3myMJ)

47 I can wait while they pay for the car to sit in storage. Any advice, which I will take with a barrel of salt, from the horde?

advise adjuster 4 that you will be talking to your ins. co (don't) and will be filing a complaint with the insurance commissioner.

Posted by: Al Leppo at October 06, 2016 07:50 PM (8mYHH)

48 This post makes too much sense. I tried saying the same things at NRO in the comments a few weeks ago and none of the authors or commentators respond directly to the question.

Posted by: Mozam at October 06, 2016 07:50 PM (A5oSi)

49

Come on down, nice and comfy in here. Bring some rat treats.

Posted by: Smegma the Crawlspace Clown at October 06, 2016 07:50 PM (qul7b)

50 And, as Ace noted, how do you "get these voters back" if you've smeared them as racists for so long?

In 2012, the Democrats flat-out said, "FU" to any middle class and working class whites. elieving they've built a permanent majority of urban whites and minorities.
And the Republicans seem to want to join them.

But, that leaves millions and millions without a voice.

Do they really think they'll go back to either party if Trump loses?

What do you call millions and millions of people who are told, "You don't have a right to speak, you don't exist, you don't count?" By both parties?

Millions and millions who find every day a little harder to get by and are constantly insulted for everything they do?

Millions and millions who own guns?

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 06, 2016 07:50 PM (e2Rx3)

51 They don't want to pay enough to replace the car with an equivalent. They are offering 3k and I want 4.

I can wait while they pay for the car to sit in storage. Any advice, which I will take with a barrel of salt, from the horde?
Posted by: freaked

Um, and your insurance company is doing what?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 06, 2016 07:51 PM (V3IFq)

52 Son got hit in rear of his Mustang. No fault of his own. Car is totaled he is ok.

No he's not. He's having trouble moving his neck and showing signs of soft-tissue trama, and that's worth about 1 thou in pain and suffering.

Mention that, and that you've talked to a lawyer (even if it's just shouting at one on TV), and I thing you'll see a much more reasonable attitude.

Cast aside the usual moral qualms; they play their games, and we play ours.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at October 06, 2016 07:51 PM (nd1zx)

53 Car is totaled he is ok. At fault party's insurance has been dicking us around over two weeks, on 4th adjuster. They don't want to pay enough to replace the car with an equivalent.
.............

Was the car named Brad?

Posted by: wth at October 06, 2016 07:51 PM (HgMAr)

54 I wonder if the smart set will run to the heathens if the shooting starts.

Or is the thought of possible unpleasantness simply too gauche to contemplate.

You'll notice I played the "gauche" card because sophisticated and classy.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at October 06, 2016 07:51 PM (pyh0b)

55
Stupid question number two: aren't you supposed to email him a picture of the target, rather than snail mailing it?

The name is probably older than the internet.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 06, 2016 07:51 PM (lKyWE)

56 We are not at fault weft, and had only liability on the car, 02 Mustang.

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 07:52 PM (BO/km)

57 freaked, almost the exact same thing happened to my daughter this summer. She got t-boned by a guy running a red light, and her car was totaled.

The at-fault insurance offered her $3K less than her insurance, who told her to take the higher offer and they would get it from the at-fault insurance. So that's what she did.

This has not affected her insurance at all.

So talk to your insurance company if you own the car, or your son should talk to his if otherwise.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 07:52 PM (xpSCc)

58 Oh, and what RoyalOil said. The "Southern strategy" is another leftwing slander of the South (we are their favorite target, being patriotic and liking the military and God and stuff).

Didn't happen, though. That's how the Leftists tried to discredit Nixon's victory, and they'd had a hardon about him since the Whittaker Chambers/Alger Hiss case (yes, Hiss was a Communist spy and treasonous bastard).

Posted by: Beverly at October 06, 2016 07:52 PM (abPPI)

59 "merely two fifths"

Three-fifths would actually be more on point...

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at October 06, 2016 07:52 PM (L54EB)

60 These are not conservatives. They are part of the self-proclaimed "elite" that PLAYED at being "conservative".

Take a look at neoconservative positions compared to neoliberal positions. See a lot of difference?

If someone wants to be elite, that on my terms requires that they be better, smarter, braver, and more moral than I.

Now the pretend-conservatives are mad not only that we don't bow to their pretend-superiority, they are mad that we no longer consider them "brave" for the playacting they did in the past with their true moral brethren.

A bunch of class conscious doorknobs whose credentials revolve around spitting out the same tropes, whether any analysis supports those tropes or not, fails on any level of my test.

Posted by: Grad School Fool at October 06, 2016 07:52 PM (swEzU)

61 As NeverTrump, I say the answer to the first question is "a very small amount of people, probably equal to or less than the number in the Democratic party" but the number of people who are not committed to conservative principles in a substantive way is larger than we thought and will not be helped by the election of Trump. However, electing Hillary won't change the fundamental problems on the right. Only hashing out arguments when we don't have a fake conservative and a true blue progressive on the ballot will help resolve some of these tensions. I hope.

Anyway, I live in TX so my non-vote doesn't change a thing.

Posted by: darii at October 06, 2016 07:52 PM (RdrW8)

62 Hey this is OT but

I actually saw a hobo rifling through trash wearing a cheap but matching suit today!

wow did that ever take me back. guy was listing drunk too, just like in the good old days

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at October 06, 2016 07:52 PM (U0lQa)

63 Maps are primarily about terrain and routes. There is no process whereby a map allows a glimpse of the soul. It is there we must look, both singularly and collectively, if we are to regain any semblance of what our founders sought.

Posted by: rld77 WAY down south at October 06, 2016 07:53 PM (AYsT4)

64

The map is most definitely the terrain in here...

Posted by: Smegma the Crawlspace Clown at October 06, 2016 07:53 PM (qul7b)

65 This talk about a Southern strategy? Bullshit.

Look at 1968. Nixon LOST the South. To Wallace. Who was, prior to running had been Democrat.

He won everywhere else.

Then in 1972 he pretty much took everything.

You know who has a Southern strategy? Democrats. Jimmy Carter. The double Bubba ticket. Obama had a Southern strategy because he got a lot of black votes, and they live In the South.

Reagan won everywhere. Bush the first won everywhere.

Bush II won everywhere but the coasts.

Posted by: blaster at October 06, 2016 07:54 PM (ACqhm)

66 Was the car named Brad?

No it was named Stang and it's a very sad thing. Number one son put in a lot of time and money fixing up that car.

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 07:54 PM (BO/km)

67 The name is probably older than the internet.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 06, 2016 07:51 PM (lKyWE)
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Ah, okay, thanks. I had never heard of it before, not surprisingly.

I knew it couldn't be what I was thinking it might be.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 07:54 PM (xpSCc)

68 another masterpiece is written

Posted by: concrete girl at October 06, 2016 07:54 PM (HezMX)

69 54 Car is totaled he is ok. At fault party's insurance has been dicking us around over two weeks, on 4th adjuster. They don't want to pay enough to replace the car with an equivalent.
.............

Was the car named Brad?
Posted by: wth at October 06, 2016 07:51 PM (HgMAr)

Brad was a suicide. Cut his own brake lines.

Posted by: buzzion at October 06, 2016 07:54 PM (z/Ubi)

70 I feel dizzy.

Wasn't I going Democrat just two days ago?

Posted by: Ace's Party Registration Card at October 06, 2016 07:55 PM (fi5nC)

71 I expect absolutely no answers to these questions, by the way.
............

Good to know your audience.

Posted by: wth at October 06, 2016 07:55 PM (HgMAr)

72 I knew it couldn't be what I was thinking it might be.

Well, yes it could be. The Moron Horde is infamous for double meanings.

Posted by: Wu Lu at October 06, 2016 07:55 PM (FQxjd)

73 The ticket sales for Oldchella have been lackluster, the Stones headline. But I want to see the other groups more.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 06, 2016 07:55 PM (6Ll1u)

74 Blue Jays do unspeakable things to Los Texians.

Now for real baseball! Red Sox vs Indians.

Posted by: Trish Regan Fan Club at October 06, 2016 07:56 PM (L7t0A)

75 A friend of mine said that the Hillary campaign [sic] is nothing more than a remake of the movie "Weekend at Bernie's."

Posted by: Beverly at October 06, 2016 07:56 PM (abPPI)

76 Ace do you still respect Ben Shapiro's opposition to Trump? You seemed to cordially agree to disagree when you had him on The Podcast ages ago (I miss The Podcast).

Posted by: darii at October 06, 2016 07:56 PM (RdrW8)

77 The map is the territory in The Other Place.

Posted by: buzzion at October 06, 2016 07:56 PM (z/Ubi)

78 Old fashioned, in this digital age when digital images can be transmitted electronically in mere seconds, but those are the rules.
Posted by: Wu Lu at October 06, 2016 07:46 PM (FQxjd)
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Ah, okay. Thank you.

Stupid question number two: aren't you supposed to email him a picture of the target, rather than snail mailing it?

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 07:47 PM (xpSCc)

The term "Postal Match" is a time-honored term and tradition in the shooting community. Much like the above mentioned Chess by Mail.

So, even though it's sent via email now, the term still applies, as it's adequately descriptive in and of itself.

One might, in a nod to modernity, append the term to ePostal Match, but I've not noticed a great demand in the market to adopt such a modifier.

We old folks who've never lived far from home, even though being Navy brats who went to a dozen schools in a half dozen states, and live 2,000 miles from where I wuz born'd....well, we do kinda okay blending the olde with the new.

Much to the chagrin of our betters at the elite and rarified atmospheres of the upper crustian press.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 06, 2016 07:56 PM (v5iqM)

79 There were no racists or anti-Semites in the GOP until Trump ran for president. Then we all changed. His head-weasel beamed its mind-control rays into our heads and made us hate the yids and the schwartzes.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 07:56 PM (0mRoj)

80 The Democrats call me racist and I said I would go Democrat cuz "less social pressure" just a couple of days ago.

Coulda been the ketosis talkin' thou.;

Posted by: Ace's Party Registration Card at October 06, 2016 07:58 PM (fi5nC)

81 @freaked :

Go ahead and get an attorney. They had an entire department of them preemptively figuring out how to f*ck you in the deal, and I guarantee one drew up the papers they will have you sign to get rid of you.

It's just business. Don't look at it any other way.

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at October 06, 2016 07:58 PM (x4zgf)

82 There were no racists or anti-Semites in the GOP until Trump ran for president. Then we all changed. His head-weasel beamed its mind-control rays into our heads and made us hate the yids and the schwartzes.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 07:56 PM (0mRoj)

hopefully Trump is planning on running ads with his hotel employees in the run up to the election. nearly everyone in his hotels, staff and management, are minorities.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 06, 2016 07:58 PM (cPsPa)

83 There were no racists or anti-Semites in the GOP until Trump ran for president. Then we all changed. His head-weasel beamed its mind-control rays into our heads and made us hate the yids and the schwartzes.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 07:56 PM (0mRoj)

That and Cochran. But mostly Cochran. He's a refugee now so mocking him is totes racist or something.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at October 06, 2016 07:59 PM (pyh0b)

84 Ha, thanks Jim. I just had never heard the term and never knew there was such a thing as matches taking place in different locations. The things I learn here.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 07:59 PM (xpSCc)

85 61 These are not conservatives. They are part of the self-proclaimed "elite" that PLAYED at being "conservative".

Posted by: Grad School Fool at October 06, 2016 07:52 PM (swEzU)

See Gergen, David.

Posted by: Michael the Deplorable TEXIT at October 06, 2016 07:59 PM (nvMvs)

86 Clinton had a Southern Strategy--Arkansas and Tennessee (Gore).

Kevin DuJan, back in 2008, often remarked that the leaders of the GOP he was meeting were EXACTLY like the leaders of the Democrats on all policies.

The ONLY reason they called themselves Republicans was because they were too lazy to put in the work in the trenches of the party required to rise to the top.

Easier to call yourself a "Republican" and jump to the top; you go to the same parties, have the same friends and you didn't have to do near the work.

Nothing I've seen since then had persuaded me he was wrong. And I've met local party leaders in a county in TX that votes 75% Republican.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 06, 2016 08:00 PM (e2Rx3)

87 Posted by: Insomniac

Hey man. Sorry about the disappointment today.

A smart guy (obviously not me) told me "never take rejection personally , because it really never is".

There are a thousand and one reasons that you didn't get picked and MOST of them have nothing to do with who or what you are.

Get em next time. I won't quit if you don't.

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:00 PM (zu88C)

88 Since blacks are now the most racist demographic in America I'd say Team D has the most.

Posted by: DaveA at October 06, 2016 08:00 PM (8J/Te)

89 "Take a look at neoconservative positions compared to neoliberal positions. See a lot of difference?"

You know that the 'liberal' in 'neoliberal' refers to classical liberalism, right? Or are you saying that classical liberalism is not an indispensable component of American conservatism?

Posted by: lowtech redneck at October 06, 2016 08:01 PM (egK2C)

90 When I said that we'd be better served by the first 400 people listed in the Boston telephone book, of course I meant to disqualify the ones thatanswered their own phones.

I mean, c'mon, not even an au pair around the house? Who on earth cuts the crusts off of the cucumber sandies????

Posted by: William F. Buckley at October 06, 2016 08:01 PM (nd1zx)

91 The way I figure it, the fringe get to vote too.

Posted by: Votermom watching a Spanish show at October 06, 2016 08:01 PM (Om16U)

92 'Go ahead and get an attorney.'

I hate dealing with lawyers. What if I just mention getting one if this isn't resolved soon?

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 08:02 PM (BO/km)

93 Twitter as mass mind control is very interesting. With so many people in the media, business, and govt. reading the damn thing doing psy ops would pay off big.

Posted by: bestie21 at October 06, 2016 08:02 PM (dMn3H)

94 But I will say the map does matter.

Steyn talks about the "L" which is Rove's doing. He went for 270 strategy.

It worked.

The key is what you can get outside the L.

It's like CAC and Pennsylvania. The target needs to be 330+' not 271.

Posted by: blaster at October 06, 2016 08:02 PM (ACqhm)

95 The Mercator is not the proportional map.

Posted by: Gran of the Deplorables at October 06, 2016 08:03 PM (lcUJ5)

96 So what's keeping you guys here, if the party is indeed so filled with irredeemable deplorables?
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I like the music. And the religious freedom. But mostly the religious freedom.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 06, 2016 08:03 PM (bpfzP)

97 Or are you saying that classical liberalism is not an indispensable component of American conservatism?

+++

I'd say it's one component of several, some of which come to the fore or recede, for various reasons.

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at October 06, 2016 08:03 PM (U0lQa)

98 Trump needs to pack the front row with Veterans, grandmas, small business owners, and millennial students then ask Hillary which of half of them are the deplorable ones.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 06, 2016 08:03 PM (SEXy3)

99 Re:southern strategy

The best part is looking up when these states finally elected an (R) governor. Mississippi didn't have one until 2000 or so IIRC.

That sort of math can't work if Rs and Ds were changing sides a half century ago.

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at October 06, 2016 08:03 PM (x4zgf)

100 is ok.

No he's not. He's having trouble moving his neck and showing signs of soft-tissue trama, and that's worth about 1 thou in pain and suffering.

More like $50k, for life long loss of range of motion and perpetual suffering from neurological pain.

Posted by: Trish Regan Fan Club at October 06, 2016 08:04 PM (L7t0A)

101 88 Posted by: Insomniac

Hey man. Sorry about the disappointment today.

A smart guy (obviously not me) told me "never take rejection personally , because it really never is".

There are a thousand and one reasons that you didn't get picked and MOST of them have nothing to do with who or what you are.

Get em next time. I won't quit if you don't.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:00 PM (zu88C)

Thanks man. I don't have any choice but to keep at it, but it's really damn depressing.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:04 PM (0mRoj)

102 It's just 1k$. The way I see it they are lucky their dumbass client smashed into a 4000 dollar car instead of a 40k$ one.

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 08:04 PM (BO/km)

103 I do have some scruples. It's a curse.

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 08:05 PM (BO/km)

104 72
I expect absolutely no answers to these questions, by the way.

............

Good to know your audience.

Posted by: wth at October 06, 2016 07:55 PM (HgMAr)

LOLAlthough I think, among other factors, renaming common words has a psychological effect. I am reminded of the word "hobo". My mother, years ago, said that now calling them "homeless" makes them sound helpless, needy, and pitiful, whereas the "hobo" sounded rogue and adventurous.

Posted by: washrivergal madly and deeply deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:05 PM (CFc5L)

105 Wow this wine is really bad. Last time I let the picture on the box sway me.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 06, 2016 08:06 PM (bpfzP)

106
Charles C. W. Cooke*

Are you under the impression that NR exists to parrot the transient folly of pluralities?

*Fop

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 06, 2016 08:06 PM (kdS6q)

107 'Last time I let the picture on the box sway me.'

They had Fabio on the box?

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 08:06 PM (BO/km)

108 I don't know about the rest of you, but I am having a hard time maintaining an adequate level of deplorableness that will please our Democratic and Republican masters...

Posted by: Browncoat formerly known as Mike at October 06, 2016 08:07 PM (o38N1)

109 @freaked

I know, it sucks to have to get one, but it's no different than any other contractor. Same as plumbers and siding installers, sometimes experience helps.

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at October 06, 2016 08:07 PM (x4zgf)

110 Last time I let the picture on the box sway me

++++

it's those damned art threads!

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at October 06, 2016 08:07 PM (U0lQa)

111 "You know that the 'liberal' in 'neoliberal' refers to classical liberalism, right? Or are you saying that classical liberalism is not an indispensable component of American conservatism?"

Give me a list of those of both "philosophies" supporting Trump.

NONE of our supposed "betters" have shown any inclination towards implementing classical liberalism policy.

Posted by: Grad School Fool at October 06, 2016 08:07 PM (swEzU)

112 105 Wow this wine is really bad. Last time I let the picture on the box sway me.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 06, 2016 08:06 PM (bpfzP)

I think I see the problem...

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:07 PM (0mRoj)

113 Wow this wine is really bad. Last time I let the picture on the box sway me.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 06, 2016 08:06 PM (bpfzP)

I hear ya. Isn't it funny how the picture on the front always shows "grapes."

Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at October 06, 2016 08:07 PM (8ZskC)

114 'Go ahead and get an attorney.'

I hate dealing with lawyers. What if I just mention getting one if this isn't resolved soon?

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 08:02 PM (BO/km)

Insurance company giving you the business? You need Jim Adler, the Texas Hammer! It's HammerTime!!
https://youtu.be/15M9b6PAdro?list=RDK3IhBf1rWx8

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 06, 2016 08:07 PM (JO9+V)

115 Thanks man. I don't have any choice but to keep at it, but it's really damn depressing.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:04 PM (0mRoj)
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Invitation remains open. Any time you want a change of scenery, there's a cot with your name all over it. You might want to wait till January / February. That's when Wisconsin is particularly fine.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 06, 2016 08:08 PM (bpfzP)

116 Speaking of concerts, I saw Pink Floyd in the old Wembley Stadium. And was front of the stage for The Who in a festival in Nuremberg. In my opinion, The Stones are a great album band but every time I saw them live the quality of the music sucked. No matter how much heroin Keith did.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 06, 2016 08:08 PM (6Ll1u)

117 I got out of twitter early on; but still liked to read twitchy. Lately, the regular fake conservatives are acting all butthurt and pinin' for the fjords... Is Hillary really doing that badly?

Posted by: setnaffa at October 06, 2016 08:08 PM (iDxq/)

118 It's not the racists in the Trump camp that trouble me most. It's those that commit IGV (infant genital violebce).

Posted by: Yuimetal at October 06, 2016 08:09 PM (Pby3z)

119 Twitter stock is down 20% today when news broke that nobody wants to buy it after all.

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 06, 2016 08:09 PM (wD9H7)

120 Speaking of religious freedom.

http://bit.ly/2dOyO3w

This link goes to website of Nazi Paikidz, the Georgian (Russian) chess master who has refused to compete in Iran if forced to wear a hijab.

You can send her an email from the site and tell her you support her stand. I did and I hope others will do the same.

Posted by: Meremortal.... at October 06, 2016 08:09 PM (3myMJ)

121 Wow this wine is really bad. Last time I let the picture on the box sway me.

I've been seeing ads from Sotheby's auctions and they were offering wine. There is no need to drink boxed wine when you can bid on something worthwhile.

Posted by: Wu Lu at October 06, 2016 08:09 PM (FQxjd)

122 "But some of the Nattering Nabobs just don't get that: you know, the ones who throw their skirts up over their heads and start screeching about Hitler when Kate Smith sings "God Bless America" (written by that wacist, Irving Berlin, natch)."

They don't understand that one of the greatest beauties of the United States is that some of the most popular Christmas songs were written by Jews. You don't get there by being like Europe, or like South America, or the Middle East, or Asia.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 06, 2016 08:09 PM (fVubI)

123 One of the more amusing things about this election is that the Democrats are talking more about the Evil Russians than the old John Birchers used to do.

"Trump loves Putin! He wants the Russians to steal our email and our precious bodily fluids!"

Posted by: Michael the Deplorable TEXIT at October 06, 2016 08:09 PM (nvMvs)

124 116 Speaking of concerts, I saw Pink Floyd in the old Wembley Stadium. And was front of the stage for The Who in a festival in Nuremberg. In my opinion, The Stones are a great album band but every time I saw them live the quality of the music sucked. No matter how much heroin Keith did.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 06, 2016 08:08 PM (6Ll1u)
117 I got out of twitter early on; but still liked to read twitchy. Lately, the regular fake conservatives are acting all butthurt and pinin' for the fjords... Is Hillary really doing that badly?

Posted by: setnaffa at October 06, 2016 08:08 PM (iDxq/)

I suddenly find myself pining for Pink Fjord.

What is this about?

Posted by: Gran of the Deplorables at October 06, 2016 08:10 PM (lcUJ5)

125 I saw Pink Floyd in the old Wembley Stadium.
=================================

Is that in London? Or am I thinking of something else?

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 06, 2016 08:10 PM (bpfzP)

126 I'm just gonna say it. If your passion is finding a shirt that looks good untucked, you need a hobby.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 06, 2016 08:10 PM (kTF2Z)

127 grammie! You survived! How was the soup?

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:10 PM (xpSCc)

128 Insomniac the world of work is in a weird season. I am older now so yeah that plays a part, but it is just weird out there.

It isn't you it's them.

Posted by: blaster at October 06, 2016 08:10 PM (ACqhm)

129 Option 1: Mean guy that says mean stuff about fat beauty pageant contestants

Option 2: Woman who wants to ban guns, bring in nationalized health care and raise taxes to pay for it all.

What's a "conservative" to do?...

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 06, 2016 08:11 PM (wD9H7)

130 1. At what point did you realize the party was jam-packed full of racists and anti-semites, so many, in fact, that it becomes a moral necessity to tank an election to prevent them from taking over the country?

For me that moment of clarity occurred while I was in a conversation with a dago and a kike at work. I decided then and there that from now on I'm a Libertarian!

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 06, 2016 08:11 PM (97XyN)

131 isn't it supposed to be axiomatic that bias plus power equals racism?

that a powerless person may be biased but racist because no power?

if so, a fringe of a party in flyover country being systematically shut out of power cannot, by definition, be racist.

unless that's another lie.

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at October 06, 2016 08:11 PM (U0lQa)

132 This link goes to website of Nazi Paikidz, the Georgian (Russian) chess master who has refused to compete in Iran if forced to wear a hijab.

You can send her an email from the site and tell her you support her stand. I did and I hope others will do the same.

How predictable. Trump supporters, always supporting the Nazi.

Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at October 06, 2016 08:11 PM (8ZskC)

133 Speaking of religious freedom.

http://bit.ly/2dOyO3w

This link goes to website of Nazi Paikidz, the Georgian (Russian)
chess master who has refused to compete in Iran if forced to wear a
hijab.

You can send her an email from the site and tell her you support her stand. I did and I hope others will do the same.

Posted by: Meremortal.... at October 06, 2016 08:09 PM (3myMJ)
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Thank you, Meremortal !

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 06, 2016 08:11 PM (bpfzP)

134 Posted by: rld77 WAY down south at October 06, 2016 07:53 PM (AYsT4)

Did you take your hot girlfriend up in the mountains with you, or are you testing out the local talent?

Just curious.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 06, 2016 08:11 PM (MVMBM)

135 'I know, it sucks to have to get one, but it's no different than any other contractor. Same as plumbers and siding installers, sometimes experience helps.'

Damn. Last weekend I replaced some siding and fixed a leaky pipe all by myself.

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 08:12 PM (BO/km)

136 hate dealing with lawyers. What if I just mention getting one if this isn't resolved soon?
Posted by: freaked

Find one you can talk to without feeling slimey and tell him he gets 20% of the settlement. He'll go for 30%. Agree on 25%. It'll take a year or more, but you'll get much more (�5 or �10) than whatever the evil insurance bastards offer otherwise.

Posted by: Trish Regan Fan Club at October 06, 2016 08:12 PM (L7t0A)

137 Invitation remains open. Any time you want a change of scenery, there's a cot with your name all over it. You might want to wait till January / February. That's when Wisconsin is particularly fine.
Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 06, 2016 08:08 PM (bpfzP)

Thanks grammie. I will definitely keep that in mind.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:12 PM (0mRoj)

138 grammie! You survived! How was the soup?

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:10 PM (xpSCc)
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Actually pretty good. I'm sick so I don't care, and Rev eats anything and thinks it's all wonderful, so overrall - a success. Thanks!

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 06, 2016 08:13 PM (bpfzP)

139 @freaked

I suspect there are plenty of times they try to screw people out of 25% of the value of a $40k car. I wouldn't doubt if the value doesn't matter at all and 25% is the initial screw-em position their legal department determined most people would accept with little to no additional cost to them.

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at October 06, 2016 08:13 PM (x4zgf)

140 How many of the NeverTrump "conservatives" posting stuff on forums is simply Soros-paid trolls?

Have you met very many people that think like this in real life? Conservatives that are voting Hillary because #Principles?

Posted by: Utopia at October 06, 2016 08:13 PM (73Pwg)

141
Wow this wine is really bad. Last time I let the picture on the box sway me.
Posted by: grammie winger

Monty Python: Australian Table Wine

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cozw088w44Q

"Another good fighting wine is 'Melbourne Old-and-Yellow', which is particularly heavy, and should be used only for hand-to-hand combat."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 06, 2016 08:14 PM (kdS6q)

142 I stink at legal stuff though 16paranoia so will consider that advise.

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 08:14 PM (BO/km)

143 Thanks grammie. I will definitely keep that in mind.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:12 PM (0mRoj)
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They run boat cruises till the lake freezes over. We have passes. Bring a heavy jacket and a lumberjack shirt.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 06, 2016 08:14 PM (bpfzP)

144 Find one you can talk to without feeling slimey and tell him he gets 20% of the settlement. He'll go for 30%.

Wait. There's a place in America where a lawyer will work for 30% of a $4,000 recovery?

Be sure to confirm his bar admission.

Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at October 06, 2016 08:14 PM (8ZskC)

145 Thanks grammie. I will definitely keep that in mind.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:12 PM (0mRoj)
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I'd take her up on it, Insomniac. Wisconsin is a pretty state (really!) and where she lives in Lake Geneva is particularly beautiful.

Plus, cheese!!! And grammie!!! And she might cook for you even!!! Or she might be persuaded not to!!!

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:14 PM (xpSCc)

146

Well

Texas governor just announced the largest voter fraud case in Texas history

Bless Gov Abbott

Posted by: ThunderB at October 06, 2016 08:15 PM (3NZpj)

147 128 Insomniac the world of work is in a weird season. I am older now so yeah that plays a part, but it is just weird out there.

It isn't you it's them.

Posted by: blaster at October 06, 2016 08:10 PM (ACqhm)

The job market is utter dog puke right now. I'd like to think it's not me, but it's getting hard not to feel worthless.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:15 PM (0mRoj)

148 I think the GOP elite is very proud of this New Coke thing of theirs.

Posted by: Halfwise at October 06, 2016 08:15 PM (rB/gm)

149 I've talked to GOPe types that are publicly disgusted with trump and hillary but they don't tend to say who they will vote for.

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at October 06, 2016 08:15 PM (U0lQa)

150 @freaked

Yes, me, too. I love being able to fix things. I love being a renaissance man with broad and varied knowledge of many topics. I despise having to give money to someone else for something I can do.

I also despise losing more money because I screwed something up and have to call a professional anyway. You've done that before too, right?

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at October 06, 2016 08:16 PM (x4zgf)

151 grammie, I'm so sorry you're sick. I'm glad the soup was a success. Way to add to the impressive "win" column in the cooking category.

Feel better soon.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:16 PM (xpSCc)

152 Everybody I know is refusing to discuss politics

Posted by: ThunderB at October 06, 2016 08:16 PM (3NZpj)

153 Alt-right concept:

Maybe there is nothing racist about this election.

Maybe it's simply status quo vs. non-status quo.

Career politician vs. non-career politician.

/wouldn't vote for Queen H if she were a dude. Would vote for Trump if he was a black lesbian. Yep. That makes me racist.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at October 06, 2016 08:16 PM (tvyXw)

154 You might want to wait till January / February. That's when Wisconsin is particularly fine.
Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets

Lutefisk Festival!

Posted by: Trish Regan Fan Club at October 06, 2016 08:16 PM (L7t0A)

155 103 I do have some scruples. It's a curse.
Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 08:05 PM (BO/km)

Especially nowadays.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:16 PM (sdi6R)

156 Can we at least stipulate that not everyone who doesn't like Donald Trump is an Establishment Elitist Cuck? Could we, please? Thank you.

Posted by: V the K at October 06, 2016 08:16 PM (jn7FC)

157 They run boat cruises till the lake freezes over. We have passes. Bring a heavy jacket and a lumberjack shirt.
Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 06, 2016 08:14 PM (bpfzP)

That sounds really nice. I don't know if they even sell heavy jackets and lumberjack shirts here in FL, but there's always Amazon!

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:16 PM (0mRoj)

158 Have you met very many people that think like this in real life? Conservatives that are voting Hillary because #Principles?

Posted by: Utopia at October 06, 2016 08:13 PM (73Pwg)

____

I know one. He's a bona fide conservative. But he can't bring himself to vote for Trump. He'll admit that by not voting for Trump he's in effect voting for Hillary however, which is what virtually no NeverTrumpers ever do. So I can sort of forgive him because he's honest. But I can't forgive the fuckstains who say "oh well you see I'm simply not voting for any of them and that in no way helps Hillary".

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 06, 2016 08:16 PM (wD9H7)

159 Love Sherrif Clark, but his Stetson is on backwards.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 06, 2016 08:16 PM (kTF2Z)

160 "I say the answer to the first question is "a very small amount of people, probably equal to or less than the number in the Democratic party" but the number of people who are not committed to conservative principles in a substantive way is larger than we thought"

I'm not NeverTrump (Georgia is no longer a safe Republican state), but I do agree with that. I made the mistake of assuming that patrons of conservative blogs and the bloggers themselves (writers for Brietbart, Drudge, etc.) were conservatives who were battling the feckless Establishment to ensure that we get candidates who will both campaign and govern as conservatives (they kept saying this themselves!). That betrayal hit me as hard as the realization than the GOPe never had any intention of advancing any conservative principle (intellectual OR cultural) than was not endorsed by the Chamber of Commerce.

Live and learn, drink and die. Its time to ally with Stalin to defeat the more immediate threat, and get back to the trenches after the elections. An arduous intra-party Cold War against empowered anti-conservative elements is still better than a Hillary Presidency.

Posted by: lowtech redneck at October 06, 2016 08:16 PM (egK2C)

161 And she might cook for you even!!! Or she might be persuaded not to!!!

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:14 PM (xpSCc)
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Oh, definitely not cooking. I like Insomniac too much for that.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 06, 2016 08:17 PM (bpfzP)

162 I'd take her up on it, Insomniac. Wisconsin is a pretty state (really!) and where she lives in Lake Geneva is particularly beautiful.

Plus, cheese!!! And grammie!!! And she might cook for you even!!! Or she might be persuaded not to!!!

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:14 PM (xpSCc)

Wooo! Packers!

Posted by: MST3K Running Jokes at October 06, 2016 08:17 PM (7qAYi)

163 Hoping the Horde can send up a few prayers for me. The ocean's so big and I've got such a small boat.

Posted by: vivi at October 06, 2016 08:17 PM (11H2y)

164 @freaked

Good luck with everything.

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at October 06, 2016 08:17 PM (x4zgf)

165 Ever taken a cross-country road trip over land? Longer than 100 miles?

Midtown to Montauk is 122 miles. Hamptons is only 83 miles. And still in the NYC bubble.

Posted by: Fox2! at October 06, 2016 08:18 PM (brIR5)

166 Everybody I know is refusing to discuss politics

+++

Barack wont allow you to go back to your lives, uninformed and uninvolved.

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at October 06, 2016 08:18 PM (U0lQa)

167 I'd take her up on it, Insomniac. Wisconsin is a pretty state (really!) and where she lives in Lake Geneva is particularly beautiful.

Plus, cheese!!! And grammie!!! And she might cook for you even!!! Or she might be persuaded not to!!!

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:14 PM (xpSCc)

It does sound pretty sweet when you put it that way!

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:18 PM (0mRoj)

168 Thanks man. I don't have any choice but to keep at it, but it's really damn depressing.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:04 PM (0mRoj)

I missed it up above but if it's about the job, sorry to hear that.

At least you got an interview. I can't even get that.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 06, 2016 08:18 PM (MVMBM)

169 Hoping the Horde can send up a few prayers for me. The ocean's so big and I've got such a small boat.
Posted by: vivi at October 06, 2016 08:17 PM (11H2y)
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I can and I will, vivi.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:18 PM (xpSCc)

170 It's simple, really.

Disagree with Obama = Racist

Racist = The absolute worst thing you can be.

So, if you call Obama a Racist, you are a Racist Racist, and that's deplorable...

Posted by: wytshus at October 06, 2016 08:18 PM (EVi2J)

171 So, if America is rife with racism, why does everyone want to come here? Are the monetary benefits so much better that they are all willing to brave such racial hardships?

Or is the Left, again, full of it? Can't they admit that America is the most racist nation -- except for all the others?

Posted by: the Deplorable acethepug at October 06, 2016 08:18 PM (1vBMd)

172
Dozens of former GOP lawmakers announce opposition to Trump

http://tinyurl.com/guc6nr9

The effort was spearheaded by former Reps. Mickey Edwards (R-Okla.) and Tom Coleman (R-Mo.). The phrases "a close ally of Speaker Paul Ryan" and "a close ally of former Speaker John Boehner" seem to reoccur rather often.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 06, 2016 08:19 PM (kdS6q)

173 Wisconsin is a pretty state

and the black flies and mosquitos aren't so bad in Jan-Feb.

Posted by: Wu Lu at October 06, 2016 08:19 PM (FQxjd)

174 The ocean's so big and I've got such a small boat.

Posted by: vivi at October 06, 2016 08:17 PM (11H2y)
=======================================

{{{{ vivii }}}} You sound overwhelmed.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 06, 2016 08:19 PM (bpfzP)

175 Country Boy, are you out of work too? I get you and Country Singer confused, I'm sorry.

Anyway, I always offer prayers for those here who need jobs. I figure God knows who's behind the nics.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:19 PM (xpSCc)

176 156 Can we at least stipulate that not everyone who doesn't like Donald Trump is an Establishment Elitist Cuck? Could we, please? Thank you.
Posted by: V the K at October 06, 2016 08:16 PM (jn7FC)

I think ace has made it pretty clear that when he's made this posts he is talking about the "thought leaders" that claim to be conservatives and he is not talking about the statements made by some idiot jagoff spouting shit in the comments section of a blog.

Signed,

Idiot jagoff spouting shit in the comments.

Posted by: buzzion at October 06, 2016 08:20 PM (z/Ubi)

177 'I also despise losing more money because I screwed something up and have to call a professional anyway. You've done that before too, right?'

Well other were those two times when we had to retain an obstetrician...

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 08:20 PM (BO/km)

178 the black flies and mosquitos aren't so bad in Jan-Feb.

Posted by: Wu Lu at October 06, 2016 08:19 PM (FQxjd)
==========================================

and when you slip on the ice, it's almost like skating!

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 06, 2016 08:20 PM (bpfzP)

179 This I know:

"Racism," or more properly "xenophobia" or "chauvinism," is genetically encoded in every mammal's brain, including ours.

The very existence of ongoing "ethnicities" tautologically proves this: Each "race" can only continue to exist because each individual member of that race chooses to mate with others of the opposite sex who look like them.

Why, for tens of thousands of years, have Asians almost exclusively mated with Asians, and whites with whites, and blacks with blacks, and so on? Because every tribe. every clan, every "nation" has always preferred their own "kind" over their neighbors.

To this day, despite globalization and endless pressure to be multicultural, 98% of all couplings are same-race couplings.

Why?

Because every single white person, in their heart of hearts, is racist -- preferring their own kind to other kinds. And the same is true of blacks and hispanics and Asians and every other group. And that includes progressives and so-called multiculturists too. Unless you yourself personally have a child with someone of another race, then you cannot deny that you are a racist. (And I suspect that many lefty-types who "go slumming" only do so as a political statement or as a desperate ploy yo prove they not racist.)

Posted by: zombie at October 06, 2016 08:20 PM (jBuUi)

180 Not only will ace's easy, fluff questions not be answered, there is pretty much no hope in the GOP that more serious issues actually be addressed. Racism will make a comeback because white republicans are the only ones who aren't mostly racist. White liberals hate other white people and their minority allies (who, I should point out, since this never actually gets discussed, are the overwhelming majority of every non-white ethnic group in the country) variously either hate white people or desire to have their own tribal interests catered to.

And much of this lays at the feet of the average republican, whose sole response to endless leftist slander along these lines has been whimpers of protestation. If a few skulls had been cracked (as this kind of thing calls for) we'd have an entirely different situation. But racism is, I'm told, almost as bad as pedophilia and absolutely cannot be permitted in polite society. Conversely, conservatives get called "pedophiles" on a regular basis with no consequence. To add insult to injury, half the democrats are fucking children on every street corner.

If someone successfully smeared me as a pedophile I'd go postal. But liberals have successfully smeared conservatives as racists for years and nothing happened (in fact the average republican is more concerned about Trump laying sick burns on twitter then being turned into subhumans by endless left wing slanderous rhetoric). This kind of vicious abuse and humiliation is gonna have to cause an explosion of sorts sooner or later, and it won't be pretty.

Posted by: Johnny at October 06, 2016 08:20 PM (+fFCJ)

181 You might want to wait till January / February. That's when Wisconsin is particularly fine.
Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 06, 2016 08:08 PM (bpfzP)

Fine?

What does the Bible say about lying, young lady?

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 06, 2016 08:21 PM (MVMBM)

182 156 Can we at least stipulate that not everyone who doesn't like Donald Trump is an Establishment Elitist Cuck? Could we, please? Thank you.
Posted by: V the K at October 06, 2016 08:16 PM (jn7FC)

____

There's a difference between not liking him and calling anyone who DOES like him a toothless, racist sister fucking redneck.

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 06, 2016 08:21 PM (wD9H7)

183 168 Thanks man. I don't have any choice but to keep at it, but it's really damn depressing.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:04 PM (0mRoj)

I missed it up above but if it's about the job, sorry to hear that.

At least you got an interview. I can't even get that.
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 06, 2016 08:18 PM (MVMBM)

Thanks. Yeah, it's about the job. Found out today it's a no go. It's really bumming me out. I hope you get a break soon. This whole unemployment deal really sucks.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:22 PM (0mRoj)

184 So why aren't you axing these question of the democrats, "Black Lives Matter" crowd.

BLM is a thinly disguised Black power movement and is totally racist.

We are not talking about a subtle racism, we are talking about proud racism.

Why are we fretting about "perceived" racism, when our opponents are admitted racist?

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 06, 2016 08:22 PM (NbJXF)

185 I may have to find another Dominos store for pizza takeout. The one closest to Fort Weasel has a parking lot that accommodates about 8 cars and there are usually about 15 customers plus half a dozen delivery cars vying for those spaces.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2016 08:23 PM (Sfs6o)

186 Wait. There's a place in America where a lawyer will work for 30% of a $4,000 recovery?

Be sure to confirm his bar admission.
Posted by: Cicero -

NO! 30% of what he can get for his client.

Are you not conversant in the rules of civil legal actions by the complaintant?

Posted by: Trish Regan Fan Club at October 06, 2016 08:23 PM (L7t0A)

187 Thanksy 16p.

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 08:23 PM (BO/km)

188 "I'd take her up on it, Insomniac. Wisconsin is a pretty state (really!) and where she lives in Lake Geneva is particularly beautiful. "

My family visited Lake Geneva when I was 9 or so. Then the Wisconsin Dells.

Last time I was in Wisconsin -- '08 or so -- I swung near Lake Geneva, and I swear I went through an intersection I remembered from that trip, 30 years earlier. Weirdest feeling ever.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 06, 2016 08:23 PM (fVubI)

189 Signed,

Idiot jagoff spouting shit in the comments.

Posted by: buzzion at October 06, 2016 08:20 PM (z/Ubi)

I like that. I'm borrowing it.

Posted by: Gran, DIJSSITC at October 06, 2016 08:23 PM (lcUJ5)

190 Did you take your hot girlfriend up in the mountains with you, or are you testing out the local talent?

Just curious.
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 06, 2016 08:11 PM
Testing completed about 13 years ago The Chosen one lives on the mountain with me, our 11year old, and 6 Brazilian Filas. Filas--Think mastiff that wants pieces of anyone not in the family

Posted by: rld77 WAY down south at October 06, 2016 08:23 PM (AYsT4)

191 Vivi, whatever it is, hang in there.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:24 PM (0mRoj)

192 Fine?

What does the Bible say about lying, young lady?

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 06, 2016 08:21 PM (MVMBM)
===================================

"God looked at what He had made and saw that it was good."

On the other hand, Wisconsin in January might be the result of the Fall.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 06, 2016 08:24 PM (bpfzP)

193
Meanwhile, more of this:

Two boxes of Clinton emails unaccounted for

"Initially, Information Programs and Services officials were told there were 14 bankers boxes of former secretary of State Hillary Clintons emails at Clintons Friendship Heights office," the employee told the FBI.

"On or about December 5, 2014, IPS personnel picked up only 12 bankers boxes of Clintons emails from Williams Connolly," they added, referring to a law firm associated with the Clintons.

http://tinyurl.com/zmkl6co

Fun Fact

One banker's box holds about 2000 pages of paper.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 06, 2016 08:24 PM (kdS6q)

194 "Give me a list of those of both "philosophies" supporting Trump."

I never claimed Trump was either conservative or classical liberal (quite the opposite). Or the GOPe, for that matter. That's kinda why I opposed both in the primaries. I was simply objecting to what appeared to be an inaccurate comparison between the 'liberal' in neoliberal (i.e. free markets) and what used to be called 'liberal' (basically social democrat) in America. If I misunderstood your intended meaning, I apologize.

Posted by: lowtech redneck at October 06, 2016 08:24 PM (egK2C)

195 How many of the NeverTrump "conservatives" posting stuff on forums is simply Soros-paid trolls?

Have you met very many people that think like this in real life? Conservatives that are voting Hillary because #Principles?

Posted by: Utopia

You might be surprised how narcotic ego can be.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 06, 2016 08:24 PM (V3IFq)

196 Insomniac I feel you and trust me I get it. So many people say wow you have a lot of great experience but go away it is hard to not come away feeling worthless.

But I continue to say it's a weird world. They don't know what they don't know.

Your time is coming my friend. It's coming.

Posted by: blaster at October 06, 2016 08:24 PM (ACqhm)

197 You are most welcome, grammie winger.

Posted by: Meremortal.... at October 06, 2016 08:24 PM (3myMJ)

198 In 2012, the Democrats flat-out said, "FU" to any middle class and working class whites

That convention they had was the most statist platform in that party's whole history. The word "fascist" really does apply.

This year is shaping up to be a referendum on white men: should we stand up for our inheritance or should we accept this as "white male privilege" and just quietly retire - somewhere - and let Diversity reign. They'll keep the white women though.

I'm not seeing this end well either.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 06, 2016 08:25 PM (6FqZa)

199 i saw it put like this

Leftists: race race race race white privilege race race BLM race

Rightwing nutjobs: um ok race

Leftists: What?! racists!

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at October 06, 2016 08:25 PM (U0lQa)

200 Have you met very many people that think like this in real life? Conservatives that are voting Hillary because #Principles?

Unfortunately yes. Check my screenname for a hint.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 06, 2016 08:26 PM (6FqZa)

201

The only problem I have with Wisconsin is the monotony. Mile after mile of dairy farms with their red barns, and country homes, and herds of Hoelsteins.

And trees.

The tranquil scenery puts me right to sleep, even when I'm driving.

Posted by: Wu Lu at October 06, 2016 08:27 PM (FQxjd)

202 What the hell's an elite anyways?...that sum kinda new Ford or sumthin?

Posted by: Slack-Jawed Yokel at October 06, 2016 08:27 PM (wcSGs)

203 Your time is coming my friend. It's coming.
Posted by: blaster at October 06, 2016 08:24 PM (ACqhm)

I hope so. I certainly hope so.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:28 PM (0mRoj)

204 I happened to see the Pig balloon break free and float over socal when Floyd came here for the Animals tour at Anaheim Stadium.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 06, 2016 08:28 PM (6Ll1u)

205 I'd like to think it's not me, but it's getting hard not to feel worthless.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:15 PM (0mRoj)

I have an app for that, but I'm called away. Maybe I can catch you later. Forza.

Posted by: Meremortal.... at October 06, 2016 08:28 PM (3myMJ)

206
And, I give you -- VICTORY!:

Evan McMullin, alleged third-party candidate for president, is set to officially announce his running mate to be Mindy Finn, a GOP consultant and a stout critic of Donald Trump.

Finn has been critical of Trump from the early stages of his candidacy, and has publicly blasted the GOP nominee over his "menacing character" and policy positions. She even compared Trump to an "abusive boyfriend".

Finn has also has extensive experience in the field of consulting, and has worked closely with a number of top Republicans including George W. Bush and Mitt Romney.

She also works for -- ta dah! -- Twitter.

wikipedia.org/wiki/Mindy_Finn

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 06, 2016 08:28 PM (kdS6q)

207 It does sound pretty sweet when you put it that way!

Stop at the BratStop and I'll run up and buy you a beer and a brat brother.

Posted by: dartist at October 06, 2016 08:29 PM (ce4zT)

208 Meanwhile, more of this:

Two boxes of Clinton emails unaccounted for
---

Lalalalala

We can't hear you.

Posted by: the MSM and Libtards Everywhere at October 06, 2016 08:30 PM (tvyXw)

209 I hope so. I certainly hope so.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:28 PM (0mRoj)

*****

Is it safe to assume that you have already gotten with industry recruiters/head hunters?

Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 08:30 PM (zbbdN)

210 buy you a beer and a brat brother.

Tell him yes on the beer but decline the brat brother.

Posted by: no good deed at October 06, 2016 08:30 PM (/O5Ax)

211 Your time is coming my friend. It's coming.
Posted by: blaster at October 06, 2016 08:24 PM (ACqhm)

I hope so. I certainly hope so.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:28 PM (0mRoj
-----------

It is. Stay with it. Remain confident. I liked Mortimer's attitude above when he said he'll keep going if you will. My husband always says to look at every interview as a learning experience and take something from it. One day what you take from it will be a job. It's coming.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:30 PM (xpSCc)

212 Evan McMullin, alleged third-party candidate for president, is set to
officially announce his running mate to be Mindy Finn, a GOP consultant
and a stout critic of Donald Trump.

Finn has been critical of
Trump from the early stages of his candidacy, and has publicly blasted
the GOP nominee over his "menacing character" and policy positions. She
even compared Trump to an "abusive boyfriend".

========

With friends like these...

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:30 PM (zu88C)

213 Country Boy, are you out of work too? I get you and Country Singer confused, I'm sorry.

Anyway, I always offer prayers for those here who need jobs. I figure God knows who's behind the nics.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:19 PM (xpSCc)

No, I currently have a mindless, dead end job that barely pays the bills, and sometimes doesn't.

Not exactly what I was planning on at this stage of my life.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 06, 2016 08:30 PM (MVMBM)

214
Have you met very many people that think like this in real life? Conservatives that are voting Hillary because #Principles?

You might be surprised how narcotic ego can be.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

The endorphin rush of self-anointed nobility....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 06, 2016 08:30 PM (kdS6q)

215 The only problem I have with Wisconsin is the
monotony. Mile after mile of dairy farms with their red barns, and
country homes, and herds of Hoelsteins.

And trees.

The tranquil scenery puts me right to sleep, even when I'm driving.

Posted by: Wu Lu at October 06, 2016 08:27 PM (FQxjd)

You left out the big tited scandi girls on the farm.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 06, 2016 08:30 PM (NbJXF)

216 We have a tradition at thanksgiving to go around the table and say what we're thankful for. Last year I said I was thankful that I could provide for my family. That's no longer true. I'll admit that my thought have been quite dark lately.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 06, 2016 08:31 PM (kTF2Z)

217 "Why are we fretting about "perceived" racism, when our opponents are admitted racist? "

I think it's worse than that -- we've reached the point where believing in ignoring race and focusing on individual behavior is considered just as bad as being a Grand Kleagle who never made it to the Senate.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 06, 2016 08:31 PM (fVubI)

218 Well, for my nickel, anyone spending their time pushing D talking points is just a D and unwilling to admit it openly, i.e. an agent of disinformation in service to the Uniparty.
Based on performance, the R party was losing me years ago; the present campaign season is just showing me how right I was, and how long I let supposed allies gaslight me.

Posted by: the deplorable sock_rat_eez, stay calm and carry on at October 06, 2016 08:31 PM (Z8DIA)

219 Insurance company giving you the business? You need Jim Adler, the Texas Hammer! It's HammerTime!!
https://youtu.be/15M9b6PAdro?list=RDK3IhBf1rWx8

Morgan and Morgan. For the PEOPLE!

Posted by: Fox2! at October 06, 2016 08:32 PM (brIR5)

220 A sufficient number of white people, specifically women have bought into all of this nonsense.

Tyranny is being delivered upon the land by white people.

Posted by: Kreplach at October 06, 2016 08:32 PM (+lv+r)

221 Hoping the Horde can send up a few prayers for me. The ocean's so big and I've got such a small boat.

Posted by: vivi at October 06, 2016 08:17 PM (11H2y)

I don't even have a boat.

Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at October 06, 2016 08:32 PM (8ZskC)

222 210 I hope so. I certainly hope so.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:28 PM (0mRoj)

*****

Is it safe to assume that you have already gotten with industry recruiters/head hunters?
Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 08:30 PM (zbbdN)

Yes, but I need to expand it. One of my limitations is I'm tied to my home state because of my children and professional licensing.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:32 PM (0mRoj)

223 198
This year is shaping up to be a referendum on white men: should we stand up for our inheritance or should we accept this as "white male privilege" and just quietly retire - somewhere - and let Diversity reign. They'll keep the white women though.

I'm not seeing this end well either.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 06, 2016 08:25 PM (6FqZa)

Yep.

Naturally, it's racist of you to say that.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:32 PM (sdi6R)

224 195 lowtech redneck
" If I misunderstood your intended meaning, I apologize."

And I apologize as well. I have getting very jumpy lately...and I was pretty jumpy to begin with.

I myself don't see Trump as a savior in any case. Just a brake on the globalist/leftist destruction train. Just...NOT Hillary.

I think the use of those terms to describe the policies of the people claiming those terms is dishonest, and that use is usually linked to yet another liberty-destroying rent-seeking scheme.

So I understand what "liberal" means originally...and one of the reasons I am so POd is that it's meaning has been subverted as so many other great things have been subverted by those...people...

Posted by: Grad School Fool at October 06, 2016 08:32 PM (swEzU)

225 Anyone in a coastal area and not planning to hit the evac route?

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2016 08:32 PM (Sfs6o)

226 Obama commutes sentences of 102 inmates

Obama has commuted the sentences of 744 individuals, more than the past 11 presidents combined, according to the White House. Thursday's announcement brings the total number granted this year alone to 590.

Well I'm sure they were only in prison because of racism

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 06, 2016 08:33 PM (auHtY)

227 It is. Stay with it. Remain confident. I liked Mortimer's attitude above when he said he'll keep going if you will. My husband always says to look at every interview as a learning experience and take something from it. One day what you take from it will be a job. It's coming.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:30 PM (xpSCc)

Hopefully not like SMOD: always coming but never arriving.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:33 PM (0mRoj)

228 Speaking of elites and such....anyone see May's speech? It sounded like Hillary could have given it. Nothing but big government initiatives and freebies for one and all.

That's what the so-called Conservative Party in the UK has become. What the fuck happened? There was a brief conservative renaissance in the early 2010s. It lasted for like 3 years and then everyone in the world said fuck it, let's go back to socialism.

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 06, 2016 08:34 PM (wD9H7)

229 the job thing has me confuzzled right now

our contract is being voted on, results over the weekend

I'm at ten years in. under the present contract i get to keep a very sweet healthcare plan for the rest of my days

under the new, i lose that if i leave before 20 years in. no guarantee that won't change of course.

i had no intention to stay on for 20. wife wants to move, etc. I'm 50 and have to be out by new year's if I want to keep it.

it's not something i like to contemplate.

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at October 06, 2016 08:34 PM (U0lQa)

230 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 06, 2016 08:28 PM (kdS6q)

They are children playing dress-up

Posted by: Votermom watching a Spanish show at October 06, 2016 08:34 PM (Om16U)

231

Show me the little man in your boat and I'll give it a go...

Posted by: Smegma the Crawlspace Clown at October 06, 2016 08:34 PM (qul7b)

232 Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 06, 2016 08:11 PM
Testing completed about 13 years ago The Chosen one lives on the mountain with me, our 11year old, and 6 Brazilian Filas. Filas--Think mastiff that wants pieces of anyone not in the family
Posted by: rld77 WAY down south at October 06, 2016 08:23 PM (AYsT4)

Ah, gotcha. Didn't know you were a family mam.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 06, 2016 08:34 PM (MVMBM)

233 Ace, great post. You have really zeroed in on the crux of the matter, pushing aside all the flim-flam that the "thought leaders" keep pushing to obscure the issue.

David

Posted by: David, Internet Troll at October 06, 2016 08:34 PM (VJuQ6)

234 Ace, you're thinking too much....waaaaayyy...too..much.

WHO among the GOP intellectual class thinks substantial numbers of "the base" are irredeemable racists?

Citations, please.

Why have you accepted a Premise that you haven't pointed to with examples, before shooting it down?

Posted by: Noam Sayen at October 06, 2016 08:35 PM (611Lm)

235 Not exactly what I was planning on at this stage of my life.
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 06, 2016 08:30 PM (MVMBM)
--------------

Well then you shall go on my list too. And Duke, and Miley's Deplorables, and all of you who need jobs even if I don't know your name.

Don't give up. Don't give in to despair. Stay positive. I know it's hard. But you're Morons™. You can do this.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:35 PM (xpSCc)

236 That's what the so-called Conservative Party in
the UK has become. What the fuck happened?
Posted by: #neverskankles at October 06, 2016 08:34 PM (wD9H7)
In 2005, the Conservatives chose David Cameron as their new leader and adopted a strategy of being slightly to the right of the Labour party.

Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at October 06, 2016 08:36 PM (EIB5Y)

237 Because every single white person, in their heart of hearts, is racist -- preferring their own kind to other kinds. And the same is true of blacks and hispanics and Asians and every other group. And that includes progressives and so-called multiculturists too. Unless you yourself personally have a child with someone of another race, then you cannot deny that you are a racist.

Zombs, you sell me short. I have a belief that aesthetics is more objective than is acknowledged. I (buggy eyed half asian) could never date another asian. I would love to meet a caucasian woman, but I would never want to have children of my own, because I consider asians to be revolting in appearance. So I'm not racist in the narcissistic sense you mention, but in an aesthetic sense that appeals to *objective* principles.

Posted by: Yuimetal at October 06, 2016 08:36 PM (Pby3z)

238 Citations, please.

Why have you accepted a Premise that you haven't pointed to with examples, before shooting it down?
Posted by: Noam Sayen at October 06, 2016 08:35 PM (611Lm)

*****

Thad Cochran and his buddies are on line one. They would like a word.

Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 08:37 PM (zbbdN)

239 Bigby, I thought you were about 30.

Tough decision. Pray for guidance.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:37 PM (xpSCc)

240 227
Anyone in a coastal area and not planning to hit the evac route?

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2016 08:32 PM (Sfs6o)
Fortunately, for my wife and I, the storm will veer away from the coast before it gets here. We will still get 8-10+ inches of rain Fri-Sun, and can expect 35-45 kt winds Sat-Sun morning. For those who will still bear the brunt of the storm, I hope you got away and when you return, you find minimal damage.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at October 06, 2016 08:37 PM (7N6ox)

241 This thread would be much more fun if we just hurled racial epithets at each other.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 06, 2016 08:37 PM (97XyN)

242 Of course our betters consider us racist. A rag head comes over here and kills 50 of us and the first thing our betters are concerned about is ant-rag head backlash.

I denounce myself.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 06, 2016 08:37 PM (BS8yt)

243 i am bluebell

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at October 06, 2016 08:38 PM (U0lQa)

244 I am Watching KEIJO, an anime about a woman's sport where the only way you can knock an opponent off is with your Boobs or butt.

Why is this not a national sport? Thier is no way in hell this ever gets made in the USA. Also everything is racist.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at October 06, 2016 08:38 PM (dKiJG)

245 Stop at the BratStop and I'll run up and buy you a beer and a brat brother.

Posted by: dartist at October 06, 2016 08:29 PM (ce4zT)
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Ha! My (old) church got its start meeting at the Brat Stop. Then we moved on up to meeting in the movie theater.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 06, 2016 08:38 PM (bpfzP)

246 "and just quietly retire - somewhere - and let Diversity reign"

Somehow I don't think quietly retiring is an option anyone will be offering.

Nope, I feel like someone is painting big, red concentric circles on my back when I'm not looking.
Need I add that this does not make me happy ?

Posted by: the deplorable sock_rat_eez, stay calm and carry on at October 06, 2016 08:38 PM (Z8DIA)

247 245 i am bluebell
Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at October 06, 2016 08:38 PM (U0lQa)
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Wait, didn't you just say you were 50?

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:39 PM (xpSCc)

248 I like "rag-head." I think I'll use that more often.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 06, 2016 08:39 PM (97XyN)

249 Your time is coming my friend. It's coming.

Posted by: blaster at October 06, 2016 08:24 PM (ACqhm)

I hope so. I certainly hope so.

Posted by: Insomniac
=========

I was told by a pretty objective observer who is well connected in the business world, that the biggest companies are announcing lots of jobs but hiring at a glacial pace. The smaller outfits are hiring quick but dumping overhead at the same rate ( VC buyouts, etc)

The top reasons for the hiring slowdown seem to be

a) economy (Q3 numbers)
b) election
c) HR bullshit

Not to turn this into a political commercial but a and c are why I believe it is important to vote against the Beast.

I have a couple of hot leads but I am looking at taking a significant compensation hit. I really think that people rise to their level of ability.

You are a sharp capable dude. When it is your time you will rise to the top.

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:39 PM (zu88C)

250 Funny how when conservative nationalist parties win in Europe, the intellectual class here celebrates with us. But, as soon as one takes over the party here, they're so horrified. So, I guess they're OK with racism as long it's NIMBY.

Also, what kind of wacked out world do they live in where wave immigration from the Third World is actually helpful to us? It's not as if they've been successful in rolling back the entitlement state so that at least we have a Gary Johnson style small government to go along with our open borders. Instead, we get the worst of both: multicultural poverty and pressure cooker bombs and an ever debt-ridden Treasury.

Posted by: crrr6 (hotair refugee) at October 06, 2016 08:39 PM (MR1wI)

251

We should have picked our own cotton balls.

The synthetic ones suck for makeup...

Posted by: Smegma the Crawlspace Clown at October 06, 2016 08:39 PM (qul7b)

252 The media drum beat is wanting voter photo ID is racist. Almost all of the voter fraud I have seen publicized is by white folks. Recent reports of non-citizens voting do not identify the race. I thought phobia is fear of, not hatred of. Since "I have friends" of other races, ect. is no use, does "I have children who are" suffice?

Posted by: peri aldrich at October 06, 2016 08:39 PM (2VaQu)

253 Does Longaberger make deplorable baskets?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 06, 2016 08:39 PM (IqV8l)

254 You know why what ace said is true? The response from Republican leadership about Hillary's deplorables remark has been pretty muted.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 06, 2016 08:40 PM (BS8yt)

255 Yes, but I need to expand it. One of my limitations
is I'm tied to my home state because of my children and professional
licensing.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:32 PM (0mRoj)

Insomniac, have you given any more consideration to the legal option I sent you?

Posted by: Tami...Powering through being a depolorable at October 06, 2016 08:40 PM (Enq6K)

256 haha i meant I'm praying for guidance. and were all 29 anyway

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at October 06, 2016 08:40 PM (U0lQa)

257 Oh wait, Bigby, I think you mean you're praying for guidance. I thought you meant you were 30.

Don't mind me, I'm "29."

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:40 PM (xpSCc)

258 Don't give up. Don't give in to despair. Stay positive. I know it's hard. But you're Morons.. You can do this.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:35 PM (xpSCc)

Positivity really isn't my thing...

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:41 PM (0mRoj)

259 And now I look even dumber because I posted just after you saying the same thing.

I think I'll go fold laundry.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:41 PM (xpSCc)

260 243 This thread would be much more fun if we just hurled racial epithets at each other.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 06, 2016 08:37 PM (97XyN)

LOL. One of my favorite memories of college was the night when a bunch of us, white, black, and asian, sat around drinking and telling every ethnic joke we could think of.

That was back in the 70s. None of us got triggered, or sought safe spaces. We just had a good time.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:41 PM (sdi6R)

261 " Does Longaberger make deplorable baskets?"

Well, they're based in too-white, uneducated, Ohio, so they probably do.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 06, 2016 08:42 PM (fVubI)

262 Positivity really isn't my thing...
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:41 PM (0mRoj)
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Then make it your thing. What have you got to lose?

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:42 PM (xpSCc)

263 Recent reports of non-citizens voting do not identify the race

____

Well given that the vast majority of illegals are non-White, it's a pretty safe assumption that the vast majority of illegals who vote are also non-White.

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 06, 2016 08:42 PM (wD9H7)

264 Yeah, the memory really starts to go at that age, bluebell.

Posted by: no good deed at October 06, 2016 08:42 PM (/O5Ax)

265 I'm not a racist.....

I'm a fvcking snob.

If you are stupid? I won't like you.
If you are an asshole? I won't like you.
If you are a liberal (and don't have a nice rack)? I won't like you.
If you are a Red Sox fan? I will hate you.

Posted by: Brent Cochran's ghost at October 06, 2016 08:43 PM (Zu3d9)

266 This election has completely ripped the mask off the GOP establishment. They are partners in crime with the Dems. Their "opposition" is just a facade for when it comes to divvying up the sweet, sweet public moolah.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at October 06, 2016 08:43 PM (lx5nG)

267 And....out damned sock!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 06, 2016 08:43 PM (Zu3d9)

268 257 Yes, but I need to expand it. One of my limitations
is I'm tied to my home state because of my children and professional
licensing.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:32 PM (0mRoj)

Insomniac, have you given any more consideration to the legal option I sent you?
Posted by: Tami...Powering through being a depolorable at October 06, 2016 08:40 PM (Enq6K)

I need to look further into it, but it's on my list.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:43 PM (0mRoj)

269 Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:41 PM (sdi6R)

Exactly. This was great sport for us when I was in the Army. I certainly learned a lot of new names for white guys.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 06, 2016 08:43 PM (97XyN)

270 anyway you see the problem? at 50 you want that box ticked, particularly if thats the reason you're working at a dead ender in the first place. but you don't want to get shoved out the door on another's time table either.

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at October 06, 2016 08:43 PM (U0lQa)

271 If you are a Red Sox fan? I will hate you.
Posted by: Brent Cochran's ghost at October 06, 2016 08:43 PM (Zu3d9)
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Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:44 PM (xpSCc)

272 264 Positivity really isn't my thing...
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:41 PM (0mRoj)
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Then make it your thing. What have you got to lose?

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:42 PM (xpSCc)

Stop talking sense and asking incisive questions!

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:44 PM (0mRoj)

273 Never considered "irredeemably racist deplorables" as anything but a stupid phrase born of ignorance and arrogance and worthy of scornful laughter. Cannot take it seriously. And reveals nothing about the Dems or HRC that we didn't already know.

But the mocking of it by using it as a kind of badge of honor -- that's fun.

Posted by: gracepc at October 06, 2016 08:44 PM (OU4q6)

274 Yeah, the memory really starts to go at that age, bluebell.
Posted by: no good deed at October 06, 2016 08:42 PM (/O5Ax)
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Especially if you've been "29" for 25 years.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:44 PM (xpSCc)

275 "In a wreck? Need a check?"

Some attorney advertising around Decatur, Alabama.

Posted by: Billy Dale at October 06, 2016 08:44 PM (x4zgf)

276 Positivity really isn't my thing...

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:41 PM (0mRoj)

Most people are the same way.

Learn to fake it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 06, 2016 08:45 PM (Zu3d9)

277 Since this is an open thread. From Ace's earlier misrembering post about looking for an item in 8 or 9 places and then suddenly it is there, when it wasn't before, I have a tale. In December 1983, in St. Louis, there was a huge snowstorm, and I couldn't find the one car key we had I needed to get to work. Looked everywhere. Checked my pockets at least ten times hoping against hope it would just miraculously just be there. Well, it wasn't I called a locksmith about 5 miles away and asked if he could make one based on the VIN and deliver it. He said not in this weather, but if you come into the shop, I'll make one. Oh, by the way, I'm leaving in 2 hours, so you better hurry. My wife and I bundled up, and trudged the 5 miles to the locksmith, and were so relieved to be out of the cold. Well, he made the key in two minutes and said OK, I'm leaving, good luck. We just wanted to get warm, but had to trudge back home. We both had tiny snowballs on our eyelashes and were damn near frozen to death. When we reached our apt, I leaned over to untie my boots, and the damn original car key fell out of my shirt pocket. Needless to say, my wife wanted to kill me, but as God is my witness, I checked that pocket ten damn times, and there was no key. Alternate universe? That sucked.

Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at October 06, 2016 08:45 PM (E9WpO)

278 a) economy (Q3 numbers)
b) election
c) HR bullshit

I'm really entertaining the idea these days that the reason so many experienced older white dudes can't get hired is that they get spit-canned by the sistas in the HR department keepin' it real for the revolution.

Ho's before bro's, so to speak (complete with inappropriate apostrophes)

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at October 06, 2016 08:45 PM (nd1zx)

279 Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:39 PM (zu88C)

Thanks man. I appreciate the encouragement.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:45 PM (0mRoj)

280 Some attorney advertising around Decatur, Alabama.
Posted by: Billy Dale at October 06, 2016 08:44 PM (x4zgf)

Home boy! I'm about 20 minutes away.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 06, 2016 08:45 PM (97XyN)

281 Ah, crap. The sock is still on from last week. I should either be more attentive or possibly use my laptop more.

Posted by: Billy Dale at October 06, 2016 08:45 PM (x4zgf)

282 Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:44 PM (xpSCc)

Yeah...so?

What are you looking at?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 06, 2016 08:46 PM (Zu3d9)

283
Recent reports of non-citizens voting do not identify the race

I'll bet it's not NASCAR

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 06, 2016 08:46 PM (IqV8l)

284 Bigby, I do see the problem for sure. Honestly, pray for guidance, and pray for CLEAR guidance. None of this "whispering" stuff. I actually did that once and did get an answer loud and clear. That was 10 years ago and it was absolutely without a doubt the right answer.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:46 PM (xpSCc)

285 "One of my favorite memories of college was the night when a bunch of us, white, black, and asian, sat around drinking and telling every ethnic joke we could think of. "

Basically the same thing for my wet down party in 90, but add Latinos and Jews to the mix.

The ONLY thing I remember from that night was the joke I told my Boston Mick LT
"What's the difference between an Irish wedding and an Irish wake? One less drunk"

Well, that and getting the shit kicked out of my legs for my blood stripes.

Posted by: Grad School Fool at October 06, 2016 08:46 PM (swEzU)

286 I need to look further into it, but it's on my list.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:43 PM (0mRoj)

I think that's a nice way of saying....nah, not interested.

But really it's worth a shot. Nothing to lose.

Posted by: Tami...Powering through being a depolorable at October 06, 2016 08:46 PM (Enq6K)

287 I think a lot about in 1, 3 ,5 years in the future.

How will my kids look back and remember how dad handled being unemployed?

That drives me.

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:47 PM (zu88C)

288 Well given that the vast majority of illegals are non-White, it's a pretty safe assumption that the vast majority of illegals who vote are also non-White.
Posted by: #neverskankles

Meaningless and not true if you unpack the Progressive tracts of the 20th century.

Only four races under the Progressive model; black, white, asian, and aboriginal.

Hispanic, ie those not strictly aboriginal, were considered white by Progressives.

There are court cases that outline who was considered white. Look up 'covenant contracts.'

Oddly enough, immigrants from India were considered 'white' under these rulings.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 06, 2016 08:47 PM (V3IFq)

289 Ha. That's my home, boy. Closer to the Helen Keller side of things, but sweet damn home anywhere inside the line.

Posted by: Billy Dale at October 06, 2016 08:47 PM (x4zgf)

290
What really bugs me, what I don't understand is what they think is going to happen after the election. if Trump loses they really think that his supporters are going to slink back like whipped curs to lick the boots of their masters ie, them?
Really???

Speaking for me, I will never believe, listen or follow a single one of them ever again.
The Goldberg/McCarthy/Williamson set over at NRO.
Anyone at all at the Weekly Standard
Others to late to classify.

Posted by: Put that kid back where it came from or So Help Me at October 06, 2016 08:47 PM (HPNqc)

291
WHO among the GOP intellectual class thinks substantial numbers of "the base" are irredeemable racists? Citations, please.
Posted by: Noam Sayen

NR: Chaos in the Family, Chaos in the State: The White Working Class's Dysfunction
by Kevin D. Williamson

The white middle class may like the idea of Trump as a giant pulsing humanoid middle finger held up in the face of the Cathedral, they may sing hymns to Trump the destroyer and whisper darkly about "globalists" and odious, stupid term "the Establishment," but nobody did this to them. They failed themselves.

http://tinyurl.com/hv6c93v

Not the first article Kevin X has written along these lines, and there were hundreds of missives/tweets and such supporting his position.

Now, here's the part where you go, "Well -- that's one, but..." and then move the goal posts down the field.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 06, 2016 08:47 PM (kdS6q)

292 "This election has completely ripped the mask off the GOP establishment. They are partners in crime with the Dems. Their "opposition" is just a facade for when it comes to divvying up the sweet, sweet public moolah.
Posted by: Russkilitlover "

Egg - zackly !

The reason I'm voting Trump ?
Look at who his enemies are .... they're the same people who hate me and wish I was dead.
How much simpler can it get ?

Posted by: the deplorable sock_rat_eez, stay calm and carry on at October 06, 2016 08:48 PM (Z8DIA)

293 What are you looking at?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 06, 2016 08:46 PM (Zu3d9)
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I'm looking at all the Red Sox stuff lying around my house, that's what.

I have very fond memories of staying up late to watch the World Series games in 2004 with my 9-year-old son, who thought we were the coolest parents in the world to let him stay up late and watch his favorite team win the World Series.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:48 PM (xpSCc)

294 'Posted by: fish...the lowercase one'

Damn fish I've done the same kind of thing. Not to that extent though. That would suck. Ya gotta laugh.

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 08:48 PM (BO/km)

295 but the elitists have no problem sending the deplorables to fight their bs wars.

Posted by: hillary's left lateral rectus at October 06, 2016 08:49 PM (ir/G5)

296 vivi...prayers for you!

Posted by: concrete girl at October 06, 2016 08:49 PM (2DTh8)

297 >>Obama has commuted the sentences of 744 individuals, more than the past 11 presidents combined, according to the White House. Thursday's announcement brings the total number granted this year alone to 590.

That's not including Terrorists for Gitmo, either.

Posted by: garrett at October 06, 2016 08:49 PM (Y613z)

298 288 I need to look further into it, but it's on my list.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:43 PM (0mRoj)

I think that's a nice way of saying....nah, not interested.
But really it's worth a shot. Nothing to lose.
Posted by: Tami...Powering through being a depolorable at October 06, 2016 08:46 PM (Enq6K)

I meant exactly what I said. Besides, since when did I start being nice?

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:50 PM (0mRoj)

299 I'm really entertaining the idea these days that the reason so many experienced older white dudes can't get hired is that they get spit-canned by the sistas in the HR department keepin' it real for the revolution.

Ho's before bro's, so to speak (complete with inappropriate apostrophes)
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at October 06, 2016 08:45 PM (nd1zx)

*****

I would tend to halfway agree, and add in the use of keyword scoring of resumes. This is why it is so important to go to the hiring managers directly. I got my current job after meeting up with (now former) boss directly in a bar. Just sat down next to him and struck up a conversation.

Kind of aggressive and stalky, but it was for a sales position.

Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 08:50 PM (zbbdN)

300 re: jobs

In my personal experience the job market is absolutely booming right now. I get a recruiter calling me at least once a week, some weeks multiple recruiters. Last raise I got over the summer was 7% and I've hit my bonus target for the last umpteen quarters. I realize I'm not typical but FWIW, it's not all grim out there.

And also in my network of work "friends' (I put the quotes around it since if I left my job tomorrow I doubt I'd see them ever again, even though we're friendly enough around the office) saying I was a rapist or murderer would be more accepted than saying I am voting for Trump. I kind of like being a secret conservative/Trump supporter though, it's like I'm a spy or something. Besides politics very rarely is discussed, probably because everyone agrees with everyone else, it would be a pretty boring discussion.

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 06, 2016 08:50 PM (wD9H7)

301 In a wreck? Need a check?"

Some attorney advertising around Decatur, Alabama.

Posted by: Billy Dale at October 06, 2016 08:44 PM (x4zgf)

Which is why we need legal/tort reform.

"Can't buy grass? Sue their ass!"

Posted by: OregonMuse at October 06, 2016 08:50 PM (JJ5/6)

302 "I personally have no more emotional attachment to it -- and note that my
objection is a lot less serious than objecting that it's a nest of
vicious racists."

I don't know how many of these assholes there are, really. There are the NRO dopes, some other media/blog dopes, and some random troll-type twits.

They deserve to be made to live in a democrat ghetto forever, without a gun and with a forced sex change.

Posted by: deplorable dagny at October 06, 2016 08:50 PM (09Ay7)

303 Ho's before bro's, so to speak (complete with inappropriate apostrophes)

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max

=====

Maybe so.

But if that's the case?

My old white ass is gonna be the next Rosa Parks , baby!

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:50 PM (zu88C)

304 >>I have very fond memories of staying up late to watch the World Series games in 2004 with my 9-year-old son, who thought we were the coolest parents in the world to let him stay up late and watch his favorite team win the World Series.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:48 PM (xpSCc)

I'm not at all, 'Mathy'...but how are you 29?

Posted by: garrett at October 06, 2016 08:50 PM (Y613z)

305 but the elitists have no problem sending the deplorables to fight their bs wars.

+++

and they're gearing up for another, this time against Russia! you don't want to miss that! and you won't either.

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at October 06, 2016 08:50 PM (U0lQa)

306 Ace, I love you and want to have your baby.

Posted by: Seems legit at October 06, 2016 08:51 PM (U+nHb)

307 289 I think a lot about in 1, 3 ,5 years in the future.

How will my kids look back and remember how dad handled being unemployed?

That drives me.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:47 PM (zu88C)

Well, I'm not drinking myself into a stupor out of despair, so I guess I have that going for me.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:51 PM (0mRoj)

308 I am really fucking tired of being called racist because I don't want the government taking half my pay. My daughters bf is black. My sons gf is black. My oldest friends are black immigrants. Fuck all the Democrats that have never shared Christmas thanksgiving 20 birthdays. Sick of it.

Posted by: Smileynh at October 06, 2016 08:52 PM (rgj9x)

309 This thread would be much more fun if we just hurled racial epithets at each other.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 06, 2016 08:37 PM (97XyN)

Loved that scene from Brian's Song.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 06, 2016 08:52 PM (JO9+V)

310 @ vivi: Persevere.

Find Reepicheep's quote about the ocean, too. One of the best characters in C.S. Lewis' "Voyage of the Dawn Treader," where Aslan = Christ. I tried to post it but it kept giving me errors (pixie? -y?)

It starts "My own plans are made..." Should be easy to find.

Posted by: Billy Dale at October 06, 2016 08:52 PM (x4zgf)

311 I do think thinking positively will lead to positive things. Sometimes I have to force myself though it ain't easy.

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 08:52 PM (BO/km)

312 This is why I love it when just regular people (?) voting for Trump proudly say they are one of the deplorables.

Posted by: Seems legit at October 06, 2016 08:52 PM (U+nHb)

313 I'm not at all, 'Mathy'...but how are you 29?
Posted by: garrett at October 06, 2016 08:50 PM (Y613z)
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See number 275.

You didn't really believe I was 29, did you??!! God bless you if you did, sweetheart.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:52 PM (xpSCc)

314 I have very fond memories of staying up late to
watch the World Series games in 2004 with my 9-year-old son.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:48 PM (xpSCc)

2004 does not exist. You are delusional.

What is your address? I am calling Child Protective Services.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (Yankees Fan) at October 06, 2016 08:53 PM (Zu3d9)

315 Fish, it's too bad the key fell out in front of your wife. I would have pretended to have never found that sucker.
Once, we were looking high and low for my mother's car keys. We turned the house upside down. I just happened to open the refrigerator to get a drink, and there sat the keys. I guess she put them in there when she was putting away groceries or something.

Posted by: no good deed at October 06, 2016 08:54 PM (/O5Ax)

316 >>2004 does not exist

In the Other Place, we didn't lost 4 fucking games, straight.

Posted by: garrett at October 06, 2016 08:54 PM (Y613z)

317 221
Hoping the Horde can send up a few prayers for me. The ocean's so big and I've got such a small boat.

Posted by: vivi at October 06, 2016 08:17 PM (11H2y)

DON'T take your guns.

Remember what happen with the "Great Canoe Accident"

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 06, 2016 08:54 PM (NbJXF)

318 Posted by: Nip Sip at October 06, 2016 08:30 PM (NbJXF)

There's a surprising number of small, dark Germans though too. My mom's family is from Water Town (something like that) and honestly the old pictures of her cousins looked like twins of Anne Frank.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 06, 2016 08:54 PM (GDulk)

319 " "In a wreck? Need a check?"

Some attorney advertising around Decatur, Alabama."

Seen that same slogan in the Chicago area. Maybe a chain or a franchise ?

"I'm really entertaining the idea these days that the reason so many experienced older white dudes can't get hired is that they get spit-canned by the sistas in the HR department keepin' it real for the revolution."

I've had that same thought from time to time.

Posted by: the deplorable sock_rat_eez, stay calm and carry on at October 06, 2016 08:55 PM (Z8DIA)

320 I'm also 29, which is why it's surprising that I'm so sore after staining the deck all day.

Posted by: deplorable dagny at October 06, 2016 08:55 PM (09Ay7)

321 This thread would be much more fun if we just hurled racial epithets at each other.

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You would think that wouldn't you? With your dago haircut and greasy mustache!

Posted by: Sean Connery at October 06, 2016 08:55 PM (7qAYi)

322 It's not that hard, Ace.

And I think you know this.

People fold as soon as either their social circles close ranks against them, or their job is threatened.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 06, 2016 08:55 PM (Vevy5)

323 Posted by: bjk at October 06, 2016 08:53 PM (0o3MS)

You will have to do a lot better than that.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 06, 2016 08:55 PM (Zu3d9)

324 All the racist democrats died as democrats. That was a bad strategy it didn't turn anybody to the TOP.

Posted by: Grizzard at October 06, 2016 08:55 PM (nSThB)

325 Employment wise, I'm about done with roofing sales. Maybe one more last hurrah in the Orlando area, so I can be near my aging and failing step mom, too.

Otherwise? I'd be as happy to peddle shrimp across the counter at a bait dock on the Gulf.

I've done the Fortune 1000 executive route, and it's the private-sector counterpart to the bloodsport of politics, but with the worst of both.

Been a cop, sold cars, heavy construction and owned my own telcom company, withal.

I'll leave the fighting and clambering to climb the career ladder to the young, now.

I just want to go home after work, enjoy a decent dinner, a drink, a cigar, and relax.

That's my ambition, these days.

That, and run a decent Postal Match here. But that's only 'cause I'm doing that for people I like, a few of whom might actually be friends.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 06, 2016 08:56 PM (v5iqM)

326 In my personal experience the job market is absolutely booming right now

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I get mega spammed by third party bullsh1t recruiters from Jakarta to the tune of 5 jobs daily.

I know it is bullshit because the actual headhunters that I work with are helping me with the process for the EXACT same job in the EXACT same location.

They swipe jobs off the big job boards and try to undercut the real recruiters. They will send you a pile of forms to fill out with personal info and ask you for your information.
Last years W-2?????? Seriously????

Hmmm and what would an offshore "company" do with a database full of personal information?

It is a mystery.

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:56 PM (zu88C)

327 My theory is racism is a biological trait that manifests some time around puberty (defend the tribe).

It must be fought against with the better angels of our nature, but to deny it's existence is to give it a secret claim over your heart.

Posted by: Max Power at October 06, 2016 08:56 PM (q177U)

328 Trump must be stopped to keep this faction from being "empowered:"

Why, if the American people had power, we'd be unemployed! We thought you were against unemployment

Posted by: GOPe at October 06, 2016 08:56 PM (6PFJ2)

329 >>I'm also 29, which is why it's surprising that I'm so sore after staining the deck all day.

The key is to start out with something small, like an Ottoman.

Posted by: Naked Fat Guy at October 06, 2016 08:56 PM (Y613z)

330 What would prevent Trump from naming a new party from those that have supported him, given the fact that he is actually elected? And thus shuttering away those Rhinos to eternal DemDoom?

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at October 06, 2016 08:56 PM (SgUT6)

331 Does O'R do ANYTHING besides flog his books and web site?

Embarrassing.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 06, 2016 08:56 PM (NbJXF)

332 I don't think the Southern strategy was racist. I always thought the correct response to liberal shaming attempts on that was, yeah, Southerners started migrating to the GOP in the past half century, but they never considered themselves leftists when they were Democrats anyway -- they were always the most conservative part of the New Deal coalition. And honestly who cares -- racists or racially "unenlightened" people, if you will, are gonna sometimes be closer to the truth on certain issues than lefty happythinkers are.

It's an issue, just not THE issue liberals want to use to make them automatically right on everything.

Posted by: Talk at October 06, 2016 08:56 PM (VQLhr)

333 310 289 I think a lot about in 1, 3 ,5 years in the future.

How will my kids look back and remember how dad handled being unemployed?

That drives me.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:47 PM (zu88C)

Well, I'm not drinking myself into a stupor out of despair, so I guess I have that going for me.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:51 PM (0mRoj)

LOL... try unemployed... but zero debt...

and still manage to send checks to my Son to help with College...

But at 58 with my resume.... I scare the shit out of any mid level manager who may hire me.... and am too old for most senior management to hire...

Posted by: Don Quixote at October 06, 2016 08:56 PM (qf6WZ)

334 Well, I'm not drinking myself into a stupor out of despair, so I guess I have that going for me.

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Fuck, reckon I'm doing it wrong then!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 06, 2016 08:57 PM (kTF2Z)

335 Well, I'm not drinking myself into a stupor out of despair, so I guess I have that going for me.

Posted by: Insomniac

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I just wait until they go to bed. : )

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:57 PM (zu88C)

336 when you think about it, Trumps deplorables, are the people Joel wrote about in Allentown, springsteen in Born in the USA, and Dylan in Workingmans Blues.
yet those people are now simply deplorable.

Posted by: hillary's left lateral rectus at October 06, 2016 08:57 PM (ir/G5)

337 Ace, you are not getting any responses from the usual suspects because they are above it all. You are no longer of the body.

I find the alt-right appellation, which mysteriously sprung up just now, insulting and an attempt by the GOPe sensitives to delegitimise all other Republicans.

Posted by: Decaf at October 06, 2016 08:57 PM (8zHLN)

338 308
Ace, I love you and want to have your baby.

Posted by: Seems legit at October 06, 2016 08:51 PM (U+nHb)

Children are smelly and ungrateful (like the French) before they become expensive and ungrateful, like everyone else.

Posted by: deplorable dagny at October 06, 2016 08:57 PM (09Ay7)

339 "I'm really entertaining the idea these days that the reason so many experienced older white dudes can't get hired is that they get spit-canned by the sistas in the HR department keepin' it real for the revolution."

I've had that same thought from time to time.
Posted by: the deplorable sock_rat_eez, stay calm and carry on at October 06, 2016 08:55 PM (Z8DIA)

Well, what else could it mean when a company loudly proclaims that they are "committed to diversity"?

Posted by: josephistan at October 06, 2016 08:57 PM (7qAYi)

340 In the Other Place, we didn't lost 4 fucking games, straight.

Posted by: garrett at October 06, 2016 08:54 PM (Y613z)
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Oh boo flippin' hoo

Posted by: grammie winger, Sheffield and Addison at October 06, 2016 08:57 PM (bpfzP)

341 'I'm also 29, which is why it's surprising that I'm so sore after staining the deck all day.'

Is "staining the deck" is some kind of euphemism or sumtin?

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 08:58 PM (BO/km)

342 More on Barry's commutations:

Facing pressure from reform advocates to pick up the pace of commutations, the administration has tweaked its strategy to accommodate more inmates.

He's shortened some inmates' sentences without immediately releasing them, leaving them years left to serve. That has allowed Obama to grant commutations to prisoners who have committed more serious offenses.

A larger number of inmates convicted of gun charges have received clemency from Obama, according to a USA Today review.

And I'm sure that they'll all go right back to the church choir that they used to belong to

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 06, 2016 08:58 PM (auHtY)

343 But at 58 with my resume.... I scare the shit out of
any mid level manager who may hire me.... and am too old for most
senior management to hire...

Posted by: Don Quixote

======

Fear of Competence.

Know how I know that America's a hard-left country?

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:59 PM (zu88C)

344 2004 does not exist. You are delusional.

What is your address? I am calling Child Protective Services.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (Yankees Fan) at October 06, 2016 08:53 PM (Zu3d9)
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Oh lordy, never ever say that to a homeschooler, please.

That same boy a few years later went to NY with a friend and his dad the last year of the old Yankee stadium, went to a game, and bought a Derek Jeter shirt which he still treasures.

He just loves baseball. But he especially love the Red Sox, like his daddy. That's really nice, isn't it? *big eyes*

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:59 PM (xpSCc)

345 thx grammie and bluebell.Today I found out I didn't land a gig I really needed. That's on top of some other bad luck too.

Posted by: vivi at October 06, 2016 08:59 PM (11H2y)

346 So, Cam is out for the Monday Night game. He sucked so bad the last three games, still thinks he's the MVP, no one will even notice.

To late for me, sending son to game.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 06, 2016 08:59 PM (NbJXF)

347 I also lol@professional GOP types simultaneously trying to blast Trump as LIBRUL NEW YORKER (i.e. he's held the same views on abortion and gay marriage as they do when they're not trying to win elections) and racist far-right lunatic.

Posted by: Talk at October 06, 2016 09:00 PM (VQLhr)

348 327 My theory is racism is a biological trait that manifests some time around puberty (defend the tribe).

It must be fought against with the better angels of our nature, but to deny it's existence is to give it a secret claim over your heart.
Posted by: Max Power at October 06, 2016 08:56 PM (q177U)

I can't agree with this.

I suppose it's partially because I'm multi-racial.

I got shit on by everybody back in my school days, rejected by everyone because I wasn't 100% part of "their" tribe.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 06, 2016 09:00 PM (Vevy5)

349 335 Well, I'm not drinking myself into a stupor out of despair, so I guess I have that going for me.

Posted by: Insomniac

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I just wait until they go to bed. : )
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:57 PM (zu88C)

Heh.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:00 PM (0mRoj)

350 It should be pretty obvious that 'racist' is just a scourge to make you conform.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 06, 2016 09:00 PM (PjWy4)

351 341
'I'm also 29, which is why it's surprising that I'm so sore after staining the deck all day.'

I think that is code for "Sport fcking"?

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 06, 2016 09:00 PM (NbJXF)

352 This thread would be much more fun if we just hurled racial epithets at each other.
Get bent , you Mongolian yurt fucker!

Posted by: andycanuck at October 06, 2016 09:01 PM (LdMbv)

353 I'm not worried about the GOP being taken over by racists, per se. I *am* worried about it turning into a nationalist workers' party.

I think it is now pretty obvious that most of the GOP's voters never really cared that much about small government or the constitution, and are basically fine with socialism so long as they perceive it as benefiting them. There were always liberals who claimed that white Republican voters opposed welfare primarily because it was perceived as helping minorities. Frankly, I don't care why they opposed it, as long as they voted that way. Making the right policy choice for the wrong reason still results in the right choice.

But those voters simply don't see the dangers of sprawling gov't anymore. They care about the nationalism more than limiting government, and without the commies to point at anymore, nationalism doesn't create any affinity for capitalism.

If politics becomes explicitly about what each party offers to different voting blocs, and we accept this awful bureaucratic leviathan as the new normal, then we're functionally no different than Greece or any of those Eurotrash crapholes.

I see a lot of defenses of these people along the lines of "well, shouldn't they expect to get what THEY want for once?" Well if what they want is massive tariffs and expensive new child care entitlements and increased prices for consumer goods in order to bolster the wages in their defunct industrial towns, then no they shouldn't. If what they want is a government that acts in the national interest, than yes they should. That is where this populist movement needs to be circumscribed. I don't like seeing all this internationalist nonsense any more than they do, but I also don't like to see the elimination at the national level of any political party resisting the bureaucratic welfare state.

Posted by: cjw at October 06, 2016 09:01 PM (7SQMF)

354 omg--ace's twitter makes me--hawt!!1

Posted by: Saloth Sar at October 06, 2016 09:01 PM (fi5nC)

355 Yeah, there was no "southern strategy". That's a lefty fantasy that they've managed to insert into history. It's utter bullshit. I used to have bookmarks to all the refutations, but that laptop died and I don't feel like hauling out the old hard drive right now.

Posted by: deplorable dagny at October 06, 2016 09:01 PM (09Ay7)

356 For those of you having trouble with positivity, watch this TED talk. Don't be put off by the "body language" title. It really, really resonated with someone close to me going through a very difficult time. It's worth your 15 minutes.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/b5rcgnl

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 09:01 PM (xpSCc)

357 336 when you think about it, Trumps deplorables, are the people Joel wrote about in Allentown, springsteen in Born in the USA, and Dylan in Workingmans Blues.
yet those people are now simply deplorable.
Posted by: hillary's left lateral rectus at October 06, 2016 08:57 PM (ir/G5)

!

That song deserves to be much more well-known than it is. It's great.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:02 PM (sdi6R)

358 I agree with the analysis, but I am coming to believe that whenever a conservative uses the word racist* in a sentence, it needs to always have an asterisk to remind us that being called a racist* is an honor, not a perjorative. Accepting that honor with grace, and getting serious about boycotting companies like Twitter and institutions like the Republican Party are the only tiny gestures we can make while waiting for the tide of history to come crashing down on us (because of global warming, of course).

Posted by: TomS. at October 06, 2016 09:02 PM (9/QQm)

359 Today I found out I didn't land a gig I really needed. That's on top of some other bad luck too.

Posted by: vivi at October 06, 2016 08:59 PM (11H2y)
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I'm so sorry. There's a world of hurt amongst the Horde tonight. I want such good things for all of you. I'll pray for each of you tonight.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 06, 2016 09:02 PM (bpfzP)

360 "Well, what else could it mean when a company loudly proclaims that they are "committed to diversity"?
Posted by: josephistan"

Well, if you put it like that, bingo !

I represent just about every target demographic that is being set up as the "wreckers", "kulaks", and "enemies of the people" of the Glorious New Socialism !
(we're gonna get it right this time, trust us !)

Posted by: the deplorable sock_rat_eez, stay calm and carry on at October 06, 2016 09:02 PM (Z8DIA)

361 That's really nice, isn't it? *big eyes*

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 08:59 PM (xpSCc)

Adorable will not work.

[actually....it will]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 06, 2016 09:03 PM (Zu3d9)

362 Wait...your leader brags he went to Wharton!?

Saloth has a sadz!

Posted by: Saloth Sar at October 06, 2016 09:03 PM (fi5nC)

363 Wife just got a text from Georgetown, SC police telling her to evacuate, NOW.

She's in Charlotte. SC Governor is trying to gin up evacuation numbers for a tropical storm. Pretty sick.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 06, 2016 09:03 PM (NbJXF)

364 I was RIF'd from Chase after 18 years with last two reviews being Exceeds Expectations and Above Meets. The second one I was told, I couldn't have two EE's in a row. Everyone in that wave was a white guy over 45 years old. I was 54. Holy crap, was it a pain finding work when you had to put in you high school graduation date on all the electronic applications that wouldn't continue unless you put in that date. After working in IT, for 30 years, I said F it, and now I'm a construction supt in NYC commuting weekly from PA Mondays and Fridays. Gots to pay the bills. It does beat the sh@t out of sitting on conference calls 7-8 hours a damn day.

Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at October 06, 2016 09:04 PM (E9WpO)

365 357 336 when you think about it, Trumps deplorables, are the people Joel wrote about in Allentown, springsteen in Born in the USA, and Dylan in Workingmans Blues.
yet those people are now simply deplorable.
Posted by: hillary's left lateral rectus at October 06, 2016 08:57 PM (ir/G5)

!

That song deserves to be much more well-known than it is. It's great.
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:02 PM (sdi6R)

imagine if he still had his younger voice when he sang it.

Posted by: hillary's left lateral rectus at October 06, 2016 09:04 PM (ir/G5)

366 I get mega spammed by third party bullsh1t recruiters from Jakarta to the tune of 5 jobs daily.

I know it is bullshit because the actual headhunters that I work with are helping me with the process for the EXACT same job in the EXACT same location.

____

Oh I get that shit as well. I mean in addition to that spam, I get actual, American recruiters calling. The "Greetings Friend, I have job offer for you" emails don't count as recruiter contacts.

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 06, 2016 09:04 PM (wD9H7)

367 Fox guy in Daytona Beach sounds scared as shit.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 06, 2016 09:04 PM (NbJXF)

368 Cleveland is bashing Boston right now = three straight homers

Posted by: grammie winger at October 06, 2016 09:05 PM (bpfzP)

369 353 this has been true since before Trump. The Ryan plan is not what motivates core GOP support, and it shouldn't

Posted by: Talk at October 06, 2016 09:05 PM (VQLhr)

370 ...but I also don't like to see the elimination at the
national level of any political party resisting the bureaucratic welfare
state.

Posted by: cjw at October 06, 2016 09:01 PM (7SQMF)

You're going to need to be more specific. Are you suggesting this something currently happening here in the U.S.?

Posted by: Billy Dale at October 06, 2016 09:05 PM (x4zgf)

371 There's an evenin' haze settlin' over the town
Starlight by the edge of the creek
The buyin' power of the proletariat's gone down
Money's gettin' shallow and weak
The place I love best is a sweet memory
It's a new path that we trod
They say low wages are a reality
If we want to compete abroad

My cruel weapons have been put on the shelf
Come sit down on my knee
You are dearer to me than myself
As you yourself can see
I'm listenin' to the steel rails hum
Got both eyes tight shut
Just sitting here trying to keep the hunger from
Creeping it's way into my gut

Meet me at the bottom, don't lag behind
Bring me my boots and shoes
You can hang back or fight your best on the front line
Sing a little bit of these workingman's blues

Now, I'm sailin' on back, ready for the long haul
Tossed by the winds and the seas
I'll drag 'em all down to hell and I'll stand 'em at the wall
I'll sell 'em to their enemies
I'm tryin' to feed my soul with thought
Gonna sleep off the rest of the day
Sometimes no one wants what we got
Sometimes you can't give it away

Now the place is ringed with countless foes
Some of them may be deaf and dumb
No man, no woman knows
The hour that sorrow will come
In the dark I hear the night birds call
I can hear a lover's breath
I sleep in the kitchen with my feet in the hall
Sleep is like a temporary death

Meet me at the bottom, don't lag behind
Bring me my boots and shoes
You can hang back or fight your best on the front line
Sing a little bit of these workingman's blues

Well, they burned my barn, they stole my horse
I can't save a dime
I got to be careful, I don't want to be forced
Into a life of continual crime
I can see for myself that the sun is sinking
How I wish you were here to see
Tell me now, am I wrong in thinking
That you have forgotten me?

Now they worry and they hurry and they fuss and they fret
They waste your nights and days
Them I will forget
But you I'll remember always
Old memories of you to me have clung
You've wounded me with words
Gonna have to straighten out your tongue
It's all true, everything you have heard

Meet me at the bottom, don't lag behind
Bring me my boots and shoes
You can hang back or fight your best on the front line
Sing a little bit of these workingman's blues

In you, my friend, I find no blame
Wanna look in my eyes, please do
No one can ever claim
That I took up arms against you
All across the peaceful sacred fields
They will lay you low
They'll break your horns and slash you with steel
I say it so it must be so

Now I'm down on my luck and I'm black and blue
Gonna give you another chance
I'm all alone and I'm expecting you
To lead me off in a cheerful dance
Got a brand new suit and a brand new wife
I can live on rice and beans
Some people never worked a day in their life
Don't know what work even means

Meet me at the bottom, don't lag behind
Bring me my boots and shoes
You can hang back or fight your best on the front line
Sing a little bit of these workingman's blues

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:05 PM (sdi6R)

372

If you racist bastiches would tell the truth, you'd admit you LOVE clowns.

'Specially serial murdering clowns that live under your house...

SCRUFFY NERF HERDERS!

Posted by: Smegma the Crawlspace Clown at October 06, 2016 09:05 PM (qul7b)

373 Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at October 06, 2016 09:04 PM (E9WpO)

We chatted a few months ago.

You're the one who narrowed 45?st. down to a single 60" lane.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 06, 2016 09:06 PM (Zu3d9)

374 That is correct CBD. It's 47th/7th.

Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at October 06, 2016 09:07 PM (E9WpO)

375 Thanks, Grammie. BTW, Dez caught the damn ball!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 06, 2016 09:07 PM (kTF2Z)

376 ahem

youtube.com/watch?v=e66CiUEyEGs

Posted by: Merle Haggard at October 06, 2016 09:08 PM (KCxzN)

377 365
imagine if he still had his younger voice when he sang it.
Posted by: hillary's left lateral rectus at October 06, 2016 09:04 PM (ir/G5)

No, it's perfect the way it is. The song's protagonist is old.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:08 PM (sdi6R)

378 If clowns only kill hipsters............................?

Posted by: deplorable dagny at October 06, 2016 09:08 PM (09Ay7)

379 Well, that post about the HR jungle seemed to resonate.

The capper to that idea is, I have the vision of all the company bigs wondering to each other (in confidence, of course) why the hell they see so many completely-unqualified women's-studies grads resumes on their desks for positions that they just KNOW have uber-qualified candidates out there, somewhere.

It's because those uber-qualified candidates are older white dudes. And their applications get BYE-BYE'd! by the pink-collar HR mafia.

I suspect this in part explains Yahoo Marisa's career.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at October 06, 2016 09:09 PM (nd1zx)

380
when you think about it, Trumps deplorables, are the people Joel wrote about in Allentown, springsteen in Born in the USA, and Dylan in Workingmans Blues.
yet those people are now simply deplorable.

Blue Collar

https://youtu.be/QDMQR_8DZmo

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 06, 2016 09:09 PM (IqV8l)

381 Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at October 06, 2016 09:07 PM (E9WpO)

Westbound is such a joy at 5:00pm.

Sounds like a great job though.....

My wife is an MD at JPMorgan. Not the Chase side.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 06, 2016 09:09 PM (Zu3d9)

382 Adorable will not work.
[actually....it will]

Finally, I get to offer this bit of wit ...

Bluebell, the Adorable Deplorable

Use it if you wish. Or don't.

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 09:09 PM (BO/km)

383
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:05 PM (sdi6R)

i told my son a few weeks ago that it should be Trumps campaign song

Posted by: hillary's left lateral rectus at October 06, 2016 09:09 PM (ir/G5)

384 "In a hurricane? Need a check from the public domain?"

Posted by: Billy Dale at October 06, 2016 09:09 PM (x4zgf)

385 We've gotta beat the Bluebell Baby Curse! We haven't won since that kid broke curfew.

Posted by: boston red sox at October 06, 2016 09:10 PM (LdMbv)

386 repost because I am too stupid/lazy to rewrite it -

The problem is as it has always been.

The ones that the lefty Ivy League types are insulting are just too damn busy working and living to hear or care what they say.

"Trump Voters" don't give their lives to the pursuit of fantasy communist utopias, muddling the minds of the young or grasping for more political power.

They don't have time. They are too busy being real Americans.

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:10 PM (zu88C)

387 I'm so sorry. There's a world of hurt amongst the Horde tonight. I want such good things for all of you. I'll pray for each of you tonight.
Posted by: grammie winger at October 06, 2016 09:02 PM (bpfzP)
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+1000

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 09:10 PM (xpSCc)

388 Everyone's spouse needs to identify as a minority. Problem solved.

Easy-peasy!

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at October 06, 2016 09:10 PM (SgUT6)

389 355 the Southern strategy was real. It's just that, why shouldn't it have been. It's not as though Republican presidents tried to reinstate Jim Crow, they just appealed to Southerners as another conservative constituency. Southern Democrats were not McGovern Democrats.

Liberals also neglect to mention that crime was in fact a problem Republicans were right on, instead framing it as racial scaremongering.

Posted by: Talk at October 06, 2016 09:10 PM (VQLhr)

390 The leftists have been hard at work creating a myth that the Republican party is packed full of racists for a long time, just like they've been working to inflate the perceived numbers of gays (and recently transgenders). These extremely tiny demographics get placed under a microscope and suddenly the population at large thinks they are ten times more common than in reality.

A couple trolls on twitter become a legion of racists. An anti-semitic website is but a small visible piece of a massive leviathan (and of course they can be only right-wing, just ignore the unhinged BDS kids on college campuses). A police officer shoots a black man and it's a systemic threat (white men also getting shot are just lies).

The leftists magnify the threat and the feelings of victimhood as much as possible and then bring as many as they can into their voting bloc. Democrats become the party of sympathetic and protected "victims" and Republicans are the evil "haters" that they now have the freedom to berate, badger, and stigmatize to their content. This keeps their "victims" supporting each other and constantly expanding their definition and numbers as well as cowing into submission anyone they can that isn't yet a "victim".

Posted by: Sjg at October 06, 2016 09:11 PM (gDSJf)

391 How much do you think the LIVs are going to cost to move them to shelters and feed them for three days?

SC sent all the school buses from Greenville, 150 miles away, to pick up these democrats and take them to shelters, cause you know driving their own car would cost them money.

They need to go to da sto, no problem, they need free shit, bring it to me!

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 06, 2016 09:11 PM (NbJXF)

392 Average time from 6th to 7th on 47th is 45 minutes. It's a hoot when ambulances and police cars sirens a blazin try coming down that block. Throw all the horns in and it could drive you crazy. You would think they would send something out to the first responders not to use 47th.

Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at October 06, 2016 09:11 PM (E9WpO)

393 Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at October 06, 2016 09:07 PM (E9WpO)

=====

Great story and very encouraging. How did you get around the "no construction management experience thing?"

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:11 PM (zu88C)

394

Race? I always put down '3-legged' 'sack' 'egg-spoon' or, if I'm feeling charitable 'pine-wood derby' ...

Posted by: Smegma the Crawlspace Clown at October 06, 2016 09:13 PM (qul7b)

395 Finally, I get to offer this bit of wit ...

Bluebell, the Adorable Deplorable

Use it if you wish. Or don't.
Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 09:09 PM (BO/km)
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Lol, I like it!

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 09:13 PM (xpSCc)

396 "In a hurricane? Need a check from the public domain?"

Posted by: Billy Dale at October 06, 2016 09:09 PM

BIG OLE WIND BLOW YOUR PLACE AWAY?

I'LL MAKE WHITEY PAY PAY PAY!!

RECOMPENSE WE MUCH

Posted by: The Revenend Al Sharpton Attorney at Laws-n-Siht at October 06, 2016 09:13 PM (KCxzN)

397 This alt-right nonsense is ephemeral.

It exists solely in the twitter-verse.

I don't think that real racists take Republicans, politics and elections seriously.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 06, 2016 09:13 PM (EZebt)

398 We've gotta beat the Bluebell Baby Curse! We haven't won since that kid broke curfew.
Posted by: boston red sox at October 06, 2016 09:10 PM (LdMbv)
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Ahem.

Posted by: 2007 & 2013 Red Sox at October 06, 2016 09:14 PM (xpSCc)

399 Generally speaking f you have to go through HR for a job, don't bother. This isn't so much a white guy vs non-white guy thing, it's just the idiocy of HR in general. It's the equivalent of going to the DMV for jobs.

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 06, 2016 09:14 PM (wD9H7)

400 384
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:05 PM (sdi6R)

i told my son a few weeks ago that it should be Trumps campaign song
Posted by: hillary's left lateral rectus at October 06, 2016 09:09 PM (ir/G5)

That would be great.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:14 PM (sdi6R)

401 The image I keep getting is Andrew Jackson coming out of the woods and beating George Will with a stick. It makes me hard.

Posted by: Jean at October 06, 2016 09:14 PM (ngn8T)

402 I've been marking the EEO portion of all applications as white, male, protected veteran, and no disability. I think I'll refuse to answer on all tomorrow and see what happens.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 06, 2016 09:15 PM (kTF2Z)

403 I would love to change fields. I am searching in the IT arena but honestly I would prefer to dig holes and build and plant things in the sunshine.

"Man was not made to stare at a CRT 8 hours a day"

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:15 PM (zu88C)

404 Bluebell, the Adorable Deplorable
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Winner!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2016 09:15 PM (Sfs6o)

405 Any word fromJane? Did she get out of town?

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 09:15 PM (BO/km)

406 "I'm really entertaining the idea these days that the reason so many experienced older white dudes can't get hired is that they get spit-canned by the sistas in the HR department keepin' it real for the revolution."

I dunno. Last year we were trying to hire a few people to staff up our team. The HR department was just... incompetent. They'd change the job requirements away from what we were looking for. They'd wait until the last moment to post the job. They've limited their posting to the company site and one or two others -- despite trying to hire programmers, they weren't going to tech-specific sites.

They were a little better when we were trying to get contractors -- one HR rep caught the potential contractor trying to lip-sync his way through an interview -- but they still mostly brought up people who weren't up to the job.

It was bad enough a number of managers tried to go around HR.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 06, 2016 09:16 PM (fVubI)

407 289 I think a lot about in 1, 3 ,5 years in the future.

How will my kids look back and remember how dad handled being unemployed?

That drives me.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:47 PM (zu88C)

I was 12 when my Dad was laid off when his company was taken over, I remember him taking me to the unemployment office to get his check. He looked for a job every day and we would go to the newspaper store where they a paper for White Collar job listings. My Dad would write down the listings because we could no longer afford to buy the paper and I didn't understand why we just didn't buy it because we use to be able too, we came so close to being on welfare. When he called the Welfare office they told him he would have to sell his cars in order to qualify, he kept asking how am I supposed to then find a job and drive to work. They also wanted me and my two brothers stocks that he had invested for us. My Dad took a job at a gas station because that's the only one that would hire him. He finally got a job as an account but these experiences made me love my Father more and understand what a great Dad he really was. I learned a lot from that and what it means to be a MAN. Your kids might raise a fuse now but years later they will respect you for what you sacrificed.

Also at the time my mother passed away too racking up HUGE medical bills. My Dad told me when I was in my 20's that it was his son's that kept him going, he was great man and I miss him every day.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at October 06, 2016 09:17 PM (dKiJG)

408 403
I've been marking the EEO portion of all applications as white, male,
protected veteran, and no disability. I think I'll refuse to answer on
all tomorrow and see what happens.

Same...the only calls I get are immediate deployment to shitholistan, or live within 1 hour recall of Fort Bragg, for immediate deployment to assholistan...

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at October 06, 2016 09:17 PM (7N6ox)

409 404 I would love to change fields. I am searching in the IT arena but honestly I would prefer to dig holes and build and plant things in the sunshine.

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Fuckin' Eh man, fuckin' eh.

Posted by: Peter Gibbons at October 06, 2016 09:17 PM (wD9H7)

410 Mortimer. When I was in IT, I did project manage the building of around 10 call centers around the country with concentration on the data centers, cabling, etc., but having to work with all the various trades. My buddy is the one who reached out to me, saying this isn't rocket science, and you're the smartest guy I know, and I need someone like you to be my eyes and ears. I also was in charge of building data centers back in the day when I was in the AF, all SCIF type facilities. Any way, I interviewed with the three owners, and they all said, Electrical Engineering degree in three years and working full time, Yeah, you'll do just fine.

Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at October 06, 2016 09:17 PM (E9WpO)

411 @371

Yes, it appears that neither the GOP nor the Democrats (obviously) are fighting against the bureaucratic state any longer. Out of 17 candidates, I only recall Carly Fiorina making any substantive arguments against the expansive public sector and the regulatory state. Many of them were proposing massive new public works projects and new bureaucratic offices.

In most of Europe this battle has already been lost, as 25-33% of their workforce is in the public sector. Obviously not all of those people are wretched money-flushing bureaucrats and regulators, but once that percentage of the workforce is reliant on government spending it becomes impossible to shrink the size of government, because that workforce will vote successfully to preserve itself. (Not to mention the people employed in regulatory compliance, basically just dead weight loss on the economy.) We're just under 15% public sector here, if we could fire half the federal workforce and get towards the 8% of Japan or South Korea, then we just MIGHT be able to preserve democratic capitalism.

Posted by: cjw at October 06, 2016 09:17 PM (7SQMF)

412 They were a little better when we were trying to get contractors -- one HR rep caught the potential contractor trying to lip-sync his way through an interview -- but they still mostly brought up people who weren't up to the job.

How do you lip-sync an interview?

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:17 PM (0mRoj)

413 I and millions like me, no longer call ourselves Republican because of those who have an emotional need to call us racists rather than admit to themselves they no longer deserve our continued support.

Is it a coincidence the "conservatives" use the same tactics as the left when they feel threatened?

Posted by: Fritz62 at October 06, 2016 09:18 PM (txGCj)

414 378 365
imagine if he still had his younger voice when he sang it.
Posted by: hillary's left lateral rectus at October 06, 2016 09:04 PM (ir/G5)

No, it's perfect the way it is. The song's protagonist is old.
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:08 PM (sdi6R)

valid point, but at least my wife wouldn't yell at me when she hears it.

Posted by: hillary's left lateral rectus at October 06, 2016 09:19 PM (ir/G5)

415

Read my lips!

Posted by: Helen Keller's Vajayjay at October 06, 2016 09:19 PM (qul7b)

416 My Dad told me when I was in my 20's that it was his son's that kept him going, he was great man and I miss him every day.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at October 06, 2016 09:17 PM (dKiJG)
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Patrick, thank you for that wonderful story. Your dad was indeed a great man. Look at the mark he left on his son.

Posted by: 2007 & 2013 Red Sox at October 06, 2016 09:19 PM (xpSCc)

417 Whoops, sorry Patrick. That was I.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 09:20 PM (xpSCc)

418 416

Man, I love this place.

Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at October 06, 2016 09:20 PM (E9WpO)

419 364 - hey fish, it ain't any easier for an older white woman. I"ve heard the "diversity" criteria BS, too. Have you ever had an interview where they tell you they changed the job specs? I've had two. I want to throw chairs out windows.

Posted by: vivi at October 06, 2016 09:20 PM (11H2y)

420 "Man was not made to stare at a CRT 8 hours a day"

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:15 PM

we have a new CAD operator kid (25-ish) at work, been around for a couple of months

yesterday, he asked my why I always call it a "tube"

I had to re-introduce him to the boundaries of my lawn

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 06, 2016 09:20 PM (KCxzN)

421 "Man was not made to stare at a CRT 8 hours a day"

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable

I do that for 12 hours a night. In a sub basement of an obscure Federal building that was built in 1919. No, Man was not made for that. Mushrooms on the other hand.....

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 06, 2016 09:20 PM (jSN5f)

422 Trump is nationalist (Americanist) and that will draw people together in a better tribal fashion than race or political/social class.

But the whole "equal outcomes" thing and the race card, tune out turn on stuff of the 60's is probably mostly psych warfare of the "commies". The right got on board with globalism, via visions of multi-national sugarplums dancing in their heads. But sending middle class jobs overseas really DOES matter (all Americans lives matter), and Milton Friedman is not economic God.

There are differences in races which normal civilians recognize, but the race card is so powerful, lines have been drawn. Blue collar people are more able to come together across party/race lines because they tend to work AND live together, and mostly managed just fine, till Soros/Holder send in agitators to start the burning times.

Establishment Rs may tend to hold hands with establishment Ds ... that's where the money is. The people are uniting around America First, and a voice for the middle class. I have no idea what the neverTrumpers are really thinking, other than maintaining old wine skin power structures.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 06, 2016 09:20 PM (n6rAX)

423 I've been waiting to hear back from my HR department for about two weeks for a full-time offer. Apparently they screwed up their first proposal (had me in the wrong department among other errors) & now they have to start over again

Posted by: josephistan at October 06, 2016 09:21 PM (7qAYi)

424 422 "Man was not made to stare at a CRT 8 hours a day"

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable

I do that for 12 hours a night. In a sub basement of an obscure Federal building that was built in 1919. No, Man was not made for that. Mushrooms on the other hand.....
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 06, 2016 09:20 PM (jSN5f)

Most of us are mushrooms - kept in the dark and fed bullshit.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:21 PM (0mRoj)

425 Hey! We're too busy right now to remember records!

Posted by: boston red sox at October 06, 2016 09:21 PM (LdMbv)

426 422 "Man was not made to stare at a CRT 8 hours a day"

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable

I do that for 12 hours a night. In a sub basement of an obscure Federal building that was built in 1919. No, Man was not made for that. Mushrooms on the other hand.....
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 06, 2016 09:20 PM (jSN5f)

CRT would give off too much light. If you're a mushroom you're kept in the dark and fed a lot of shit.

Posted by: buzzion at October 06, 2016 09:22 PM (z/Ubi)

427 I said F it, and now I'm a construction supt in NYC commuting weekly
from PA Mondays and Fridays. Gots to pay the bills. It does beat the
sh@t out of sitting on conference calls 7-8 hours a damn day.

Oh, I LOVED being in construction management.

Landed a job out of college as a project manager for a subcontractor, and the first big job I had, around the third meeting the general's super just jumped up on the table in the job office in the 3rd sub-basement after we'd reviewed the schedule and proved the project could basically NEVER be completed and started dancing around chanting, "I'm fucked, I'm fucked, I'm so completely FUCKED, won't somebody take pity on this poor Kraut and buy me a shoeshine kit?" (this really happened). The capper is when his hard hat rolled off his head, off the table, and the pipefitter drop-kicked it into the Bunn machine, which exploded.

Oh, gawd, LAUGH?

We all went hysterical, and then finished the damn thing on time, 9 months later.

Building things is the BEST.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at October 06, 2016 09:22 PM (nd1zx)

428 vivi, hang in there. Take a look at that TED talk video I linked above in # 356. And just keep going. I have faith in you.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 09:22 PM (xpSCc)

429 408---Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at October 06, 2016 09:17 PM (dKiJG)
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Thank you for sharing that with us.
It made my day.
Really.

Posted by: SHEP SMITH!!!! at October 06, 2016 09:22 PM (Nox3c)

430 I dunno. Last year we were trying to hire a few people to staff up our team. The HR department was just... incompetent. They'd change the job requirements away from what we were looking for. They'd wait until the last moment to post the job. They've limited their posting to the company site and one or two others -- despite trying to hire programmers, they weren't going to tech-specific sites.
.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 06, 2016 09:16 PM (fVubI)

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Any time I need to hire someone, I find the person myself, then once we agree to salary, etc, I tell HR, hey here's someone you should look into, I think they might be a good fit. This way HR doesn't fuck up a job search for me and they also think they actually helped with the hiring process.

For me LinkedIn is how I find people to hire. Why we still need an HR department in the ear of LinkedIn, Dice, Indeed, etc is beyond me.

Posted by: Peter Gibbons at October 06, 2016 09:23 PM (wD9H7)

431 >Obama has commuted the sentences of 744 individuals, more than the past 11 presidents combined, according to the White House. Thursday's announcement brings the total number granted this year alone to 590.

That's not including Terrorists for Gitmo, either.
Posted by: garrett at October 06, 2016 08:49 PM (Y613z)

Just wait until the pardon party starts at the WH in December. Everyone who can be pardoned will be and everyone in the IRS, FBI, and other agencies who were loyal to the party and to Obama and Hillary will receive their very own immunity from prosecution.

Posted by: Jen the original at October 06, 2016 09:23 PM (ntZAP)

432 I was never going to vote Republican again at the national level, but I may do so two more times.

1) For Cruz in the primary

2) And against that traitor Cornyn in his primary.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 06, 2016 09:23 PM (MVMBM)

433
It was bad enough a number of managers tried to go around HR.

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You would be stunned at some of the ridiculous "phone screens" that I have been through.

Stunned.

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:24 PM (zu88C)

434 I would love to change fields. I am searching in the IT arena but honestly I would prefer to dig holes and build and plant things in the sunshine.

Glad I didn't start out in my new field because earning money was great, but yeah, loving it out in the physical world.

Posted by: t-bird at October 06, 2016 09:24 PM (v/y8G)

435 The fight this year is between nationalists and globalists. Don't kid yourself. The question of what what kind of nation this will be can wait until after we answer the question, "Shall we have a nation of our own at all?"

First. Things. First.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Deplorable Guy at October 06, 2016 09:24 PM (vyqqu)

436 Off, stupid yelling Shep Smith sock!!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 06, 2016 09:24 PM (Nox3c)

437 >>>>>I think it is now pretty obvious that most of the GOP's voters never
really cared that much about small government or the constitution, and
are basically fine with socialism so long as they perceive it as
benefiting them.<<<<

How much government has the GOP shrunk/gotten rid of in the last fifty years?

Maybe the voters have just figured out that the GOP has no intention of doing anything about big government and are tired of being played.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at October 06, 2016 09:24 PM (x3uSY)

438 How long before conservatives start to understand the kind of people we are up against. READ ALINSKY. Everything they do is laid out in it. These people DO NOT play by the rules. They cannot be negotiated with or placated. If they give you advice say thanks and do not take any of it. Liberals are the enemy and they only see us as enemies.

Posted by: james at October 06, 2016 09:25 PM (jxw6R)

439 Damn Peter Gibbons Sock

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 06, 2016 09:25 PM (wD9H7)

440 420

I could barely get past a phone interview, if one popped up. The thing that really killed me was they set me up with an outsourcing group, that honestly, was very good. I signed up for email alerts from Chase, and several times, saw my same exact job description open up. So, I applied. Now mind you, I could step in on day one, know all the ropes, all the people and be productive on day one. Never ever called for an interview. Frustrating. Funny you mention diversity. About ten years ago, they were pushing it hard, and said they were looking to hire and promote more women and gays. I blurted out that I'm a tranny, but not a good one, so I should be promoted soon. I got the stink eye and some harsh comment, and I replied I guess I have to go to HR, because I am dead serious and you just mocked me. Shut them up for a while. Maybe that was on my permanent record. :-)

Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at October 06, 2016 09:26 PM (E9WpO)

441 436 The fight this year is between nationalists and globalists. Don't kid yourself. The question of what what kind of nation this will be can wait until after we answer the question, "Shall we have a nation of our own at all?"

First. Things. First.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Deplorable Guy at October 06, 2016 09:24 PM (vyqqu)

Well said...

Posted by: Don Quixote at October 06, 2016 09:27 PM (qf6WZ)

442 We get it james. Don't ride on the gator's back.

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 09:27 PM (BO/km)

443 Ooookay.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 06, 2016 09:28 PM (V3IFq)

444 Hey! Where did everyone go??

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 09:28 PM (xpSCc)

445 Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at October 06, 2016 09:17 PM (dKiJG)
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Wow. Your dad sounds like a remarkable man. You were blessed.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 06, 2016 09:29 PM (bpfzP)

446 "The map is not the territory" is a shorthand aphorism from a Polish philosopher which means the abstraction, the simplified schematic of a real world thing, is not the real world thing itself.

Twitter is not the political universe.

The word is not the the thing the word denotes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map%E2%80%93territory_relation

Posted by: ace at October 06, 2016 09:29 PM (dciA+)

447 415
valid point, but at least my wife wouldn't yell at me when she hears it.
Posted by: hillary's left lateral rectus at October 06, 2016 09:19 PM (ir/G5)

Surely she likes "Spirit on the Water", doesn't she?

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:29 PM (sdi6R)

448 Oh no where did everybody go? I knew this was going to happen!

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 09:29 PM (BO/km)

449
Posted by: fish...the lowercase one
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Good info. I am taking notes. Hopefully I can make a similar case.

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Posted by: Patrick from Ohio

Thanks. Your dad sounds like a great guy and seems like he would be proud of his son.

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:29 PM (zu88C)

450 Back when I was an executive.

HR: You can't do that!

Me: No, I'm not supposed to do that. There's a difference.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 06, 2016 09:30 PM (kTF2Z)

451 Hell I've been looking for a racist to eat to see what all the fuss is about.

...too bad I don't like dark meat.

(Yes, I denounce myself...as racist.)

Hey!

*gnaws on own arm*

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'Clown-the other white meat' at October 06, 2016 09:30 PM (B+MYz)

452 And back from beyond...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Deplorable Guy at October 06, 2016 09:30 PM (vyqqu)

453 something's not right. You smell that?

Posted by: grammie winger at October 06, 2016 09:31 PM (bpfzP)

454 is it racist to not want to become a hated, discriminated-against minority in the country your ancestors founded?

Posted by: WARPIG at October 06, 2016 09:31 PM (KL5Ns)

455 something's not right. You smell that?

Posted by: grammie winger

yeah, it's like chili with carrots. The day after.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 06, 2016 09:31 PM (V3IFq)

456 The map-territory relation describes the relationship between an object and a representation of that object, as in the relation between a geographical territory and a map of it. Polish-American scientist and philosopher Alfred Korzybski remarked that "the map is not the territory", encapsulating his view that an abstraction derived from something, or a reaction to it, is not the thing itself. Korzybski held that many people do confuse maps with territories, that is, confuse models of reality with reality itself.

from Wikipedia, "map-territory relation"

Posted by: ace at October 06, 2016 09:31 PM (dciA+)

457 Pixy?

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:32 PM (zu88C)

458 Whew. Just testing the kill switch I guess.

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 09:32 PM (BO/km)

459 And it's back.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:33 PM (0mRoj)

460 I edited the post to include a link to what the map/territory quote means, but I accidentally save it as draft.

Posted by: ace at October 06, 2016 09:33 PM (dciA+)

461 cable is out.....can't watch the game

Posted by: phoenixgirl, Go SF Giants! at October 06, 2016 09:34 PM (0O7c5)

462 460 Whew. Just testing the kill switch I guess.
Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 09:32 PM (BO/km)

Yeah, I was. Heh.

Posted by: Emperor Barackhenaten I at October 06, 2016 09:34 PM (sdi6R)

463 Was the other place an inferno with your mother-in-laws voice playing on repeat and Helen Thomas offering sexual favors? If so, good thing we get a second chance on this thread.

Posted by: no good deed at October 06, 2016 09:34 PM (/O5Ax)

464 Sometimes at the shift change the hamsters don't make a smooth transition on the wheel.

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 09:34 PM (BO/km)

465 I edited the post to include a link to what the map/territory quote means, but I accidentally save it as draft.

Posted by: ace at October 06, 2016 09:33 PM (dciA+)
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Daggone it ace, I think you scared me into turning 30.

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 09:34 PM (xpSCc)

466

MeAgain trying to give the appearance of impartiality.

*snort*

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:34 PM (zu88C)

467 I don't think Twitter is a map regardless.

It's a self-selected group.

Why, relying on Twitter to determine the political makeup of a pol's followers is like relying on on-line polls.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 06, 2016 09:35 PM (V3IFq)

468 A Londoner has lost a �10 million legal battle with Donald Trump over
his controversial claims that parts of the city are so radicalised that
police are afraid to go there.
Kamran Malik, and his east
London-based Communities United Party, were seeking �10 million damages
against the US presidential candidate for allegedly defaming Muslims
living in the Green Street and Romford Road area of Forest Gate.
In
a bid to justify his comments last December that Muslims should be
barred from entering the US, Mr Trump said parts of London and Paris
were so "radicalised" that police officers were scared....Mr Malik,
who was not in court, was ordered to pay �35,000 costs and refused
permission to appeal although he can re-apply to the Court of Appeal.

[Breaking News; and if black diamonds strike, they're pound sterling symbols. Why the US needs loser pays.]

Posted by: andycanuck at October 06, 2016 09:35 PM (LdMbv)

469
chick from the Blaze on Hillary's scripted question....

"If she can't handle Steve Harvey, she can't handle Vlad Putin."

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:36 PM (zu88C)

470 431 Why we still need an HR department in the ear of LinkedIn, Dice, Indeed, etc is beyond me.
Posted by: Peter Gibbons at October 06, 2016 09:23 PM (wD9H7)

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Well, some one has to administer the diversity and anti-harassment training.

Posted by: Emmie at October 06, 2016 09:36 PM (xVuS6)

471 This thread got me to thinking about what we say in Texas now....

"If at first you don't secede, try, try again. "

Posted by: The Walking Dude at October 06, 2016 09:36 PM (cCxiu)

472 cable is out.....can't watch the game

Posted by: phoenixgirl, Go SF Giants! at October 06, 2016 09:34 PM (0O7c5)
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4-3 Cleveland. Boston just hit a home run.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 06, 2016 09:37 PM (bpfzP)

473 boston or cleveland......the indians i think

Posted by: phoenixgirl, Go SF Giants! at October 06, 2016 09:37 PM (0O7c5)

474 Willoed from the past and future thread. Holy Toledo. Ace so has that time machine. I'm not greedy, I just need it for a minutes to go back and kick a few A'holes in the nads. For anyone here from the last thread, which is the now thread, construction in NYC is most non-PC environment I've ever seen. And, it's F'in great compared to corp world where I wouldn't even open my mouth other than around my closest compatriots. I'm a moron after all.

Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at October 06, 2016 09:38 PM (E9WpO)

475 We're gonna guess 100%

We can spot a raaaaycist a mile away.

Posted by: #BLM at October 06, 2016 09:38 PM (B+MYz)

476 thanks grammie......it came back on....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, Go SF Giants! at October 06, 2016 09:38 PM (0O7c5)

477 Manager pulled the Cleveland pitcher at the top of the 5th, so he can't get the win. Geez, throw one bad one and your done I guess.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 06, 2016 09:38 PM (bpfzP)

478 I don't go thru HR to hire anyone anymore. I bring on 1099 contractors, then convert them to full time. Fait Accompli, or otherwise known as F U EEOC.

Posted by: Jean at October 06, 2016 09:39 PM (ngn8T)

479 Oh good phoenixgirl.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 06, 2016 09:39 PM (bpfzP)

480 One the one hand.....Trump's followers are all racists as exhibited by Twitter

On the other hand, Trump's followers are all 5th grade dropouts who don;t know how to use twitter because they can't even read

Posted by: Leftist / NeverTrump Logic at October 06, 2016 09:39 PM (wD9H7)

481 GOP intellectual class?

Never heard of it

Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 06, 2016 09:39 PM (3CFdj)

482 Well all you nice people, I really do have to go and fold laundry. Not a euphemism either, sorry to say.

I promise prayers up for all who need them, whether you've actually asked for them or not. As always.

Have a great evening people and GO RED SOX!!!!!

(ducking out before CBD bans my backside)

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 09:40 PM (xpSCc)

483 "I don't think that real racists take Republicans, politics and elections seriously."

This. Real racists are completely convinced that politics is all a sham controlled by whitey/race-traitors/Joooos/whoever. So, believing such, they're naturally paranoid, insular, and deeply tribal.

They certainly don't see rich insider cosmopolitan businessman Trump as "one of them", not any more than rich insider cosmopolitan politician Hillary Clinton. Even mighty Twitter frog memes can't do that.

Posted by: GalosGann at October 06, 2016 09:40 PM (md1b/)

484 Why we still need an HR department in the ear of LinkedIn, Dice, Indeed, etc is beyond me
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We don't.

Hell, they don't even help you fill out forms for insurance anymore. It's all on the web.

Federal regulations are the ONLY reason that they exist.

HR is an unofficial Federal jobs program.

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:40 PM (zu88C)

485 Thank you for the kind words,

I always thought my life was rough then I met my friend's future wife and we started drinking and I started talking, she looked at at me and said I understand, when She was growing up in a Korean orphanage she had to steal food so she could feed not only herself but her brother, that made me realize that it could have been worse, that really opened up my eyes.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at October 06, 2016 09:40 PM (dKiJG)

486 I really do have to go and fold laundry
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HAWT

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:41 PM (zu88C)

487 480 I don't go thru HR to hire anyone anymore. I bring on 1099 contractors, then convert them to full time. Fait Accompli, or otherwise known as F U EEOC.
Posted by: Jean at October 06, 2016 09:39 PM (ngn8T)

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I used to wonder why so many jobs all of a sudden were contract to hire. Then I realized why (the reason you stated) and decided it was a most glorious invention. Not even so much the EEOC crap, but just reduced the effort required to bring someone on, fewer interviews, less paper work, no checking references, etc. I can get a contractor on board in 2 days if I need to, whereas hiring a FTE is a month if I'm lucky.

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 06, 2016 09:41 PM (wD9H7)

488 does anyone know a racist in meatspace?

Posted by: origional Jake at October 06, 2016 09:42 PM (ZYYfU)

489 Just listened to a Trump townhall in NH. It's interesting how when he's in a calm, sort of discursive mode, he's not bad at all (the NY chopped style, his style of simplification may displease some, but there it is).

When he was asked about the FBI collapse, his response was if anything too mild, but he thankfully lifted a phrase from me and many people I know - "like a Third World country" (while shaking his head).

Particularly liked his off-the-cuff comment that up to 70% of regulation could be eliminated. Could be high, could be low - but bracing to consider that a GOP candidate speaking in bold terms about such a key issue is such a novelty.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 06, 2016 09:42 PM (QDnY+)

490
487
Why we still need an HR department in the ear of LinkedIn, Dice, Indeed, etc is beyond me
==========

We don't.

Hell, they don't even help you fill out forms for insurance anymore. It's all on the web.

Federal regulations are the ONLY reason that they exist.

HR is an unofficial Federal jobs program.

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:40 PM (zu88C)

A jobs program for Women's Studies majors.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 06, 2016 09:42 PM (LuZz8)

491 456
is it racist to not want to become a hated, discriminated-against minority in the country your ancestors founded?

Posted by: WARPIG at October 06, 2016 09:31 PM (KL5Ns)

On the back of us poor slaves, who really miss our grass hut homes in Africa.

Posted by: Rev Wright, I married the JEF at October 06, 2016 09:42 PM (NbJXF)

492 Take a look at that TED talk video I linked above in # 356.

She is fairly hot. I should turn up the sound now...

Posted by: t-bird at October 06, 2016 09:43 PM (v/y8G)

493 Geez, throw one bad one and you're done I guess.

Posted by: cole hamels at October 06, 2016 09:43 PM (LdMbv)

494 She was growing up in a Korean orphanage she had to
steal food so she could feed not only herself but her brother, that made
me realize that it could have been worse, that really opened up my
eyes.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at October 06, 2016 09:40 PM (dKiJG)
===============================================

God bless her. Seriously.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 06, 2016 09:43 PM (bpfzP)

495
Many devotees and critics of Korzybski reduced his rather complex system to a simple matter of what he said about the verb form "is" of the more general verb "to be." His system, however, is based primarily on such terminology as the different "orders of abstraction," and formulations such as "consciousness of abstracting." It is often said that Korzybski opposed the use of the verb "to be."

These people get beat up a lot.

Deservedly.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 06, 2016 09:44 PM (kdS6q)

496 Heard a radio ad for something called Takl.com It is supposedly using your experience in a odd job situation. Might be something worth looking into. Something that is about to make a comeback is boarding houses.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 06, 2016 09:45 PM (92uZF)

497 re: Twitter and the map

Is there any way to know , considering all the multiple handles, fakescreen names, socks, etc. how many peopl actually are on Twitter?

Maybe it's all just 25 unemployed guys who type really fast.

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:46 PM (zu88C)

498 She was growing up in a Korean orphanage she had to
steal food so she could feed not only herself but her brother, that made
me realize that it could have been worse, that really opened up my
eyes.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at October 06, 2016 09:40 PM (dKiJG)

____

I always say that there is no such thing as poverty in the US. Sure there are people who live less well off than others. But if you want to see what actual poverty is.....go to China, go to India, go to Sao Paolo or Rio. That shit is poverty.

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 06, 2016 09:46 PM (wD9H7)

499
does anyone know a racist in meatspace?

============================

My grandma was probably a racist. One time I heard her say "If only they could all be like Ernie (Banks)." I try to cut her some slack. It was the 50's.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 06, 2016 09:46 PM (bpfzP)

500 472---Well, some one has to administer the diversity and anti-harassment training.
Posted by: Emmie at October 06, 2016 09:36 PM (xVuS6)
-------------------------
Yep. Starbucks can't hire ALL of the victim-studies majors.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 06, 2016 09:46 PM (Nox3c)

501 Evening all

Looks bad in FL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 06, 2016 09:46 PM (K63aO)

502 For those of you having trouble with positivity, watch this TED talk. Don't be put off by the "body language" title. It really, really resonated with someone close to me going through a very difficult time. It's worth your 15 minutes.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/b5rcgnl

Posted by: bluebell at October 06, 2016 09:01 PM (xpSCc)

I didn't know that David Bowie gave talks like that

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 06, 2016 09:47 PM (auHtY)

503 That shit is poverty.
....
Tijuana or Ensenada or pretty much anywhere in mexico

Posted by: origional Jake at October 06, 2016 09:47 PM (ZYYfU)

504 "The map is not the territory."

There is one notable exception to this maxim, and that is the three southern provinces of Peruvia, where in fact, the populace actually resides on a paper map of southern Peruvia and there really is no actual territory as such.

This is particularly problematic when it rains, as the red ink used for roads runs when wet and traffic accidents increase fifteen-fold.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 06, 2016 09:47 PM (fYyCT)

505 449 415
valid point, but at least my wife wouldn't yell at me when she hears it.
Posted by: hillary's left lateral rectus at October 06, 2016 09:19 PM (ir/G5)

Surely she likes "Spirit on the Water", doesn't she?
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:29 PM (sdi6R)

she yells at all Dylan-
but she stole my Blood on the Tracks disc after seeing "Jerry McGuire", and liked theMan in Me after seeing the Big Lebowski, and likes Adeles version of Make you Feel my Love.
maybe theres hope.

Posted by: hillary's left lateral rectus at October 06, 2016 09:48 PM (ir/G5)

506 and traffic accidents increase fifteen-fold.
=============================

Never try to fold a wet map.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 06, 2016 09:49 PM (bpfzP)

507 does anyone know a racist in meatspace?

[edit, in 2016]
thanks grammie

Posted by: origional Jake at October 06, 2016 09:49 PM (ZYYfU)

508
On the back of us poor slaves, who really miss our grass hut homes in Africa.
Posted by: Rev Wright, I married the JEF at October 06, 2016 09:42 PM (NbJXF)

Im sure glad Grandpa got on that boat

Posted by: mohammed ali at October 06, 2016 09:50 PM (ir/G5)

509 503. And those poor people in Haiti

I'm sure Clinton foundation will be rushing in to help them after this hurricane?

Such unbelievable deprivation we can't even imagine. And how much did the clintons steal from the funds supposed to help them

At this point what difference does it make?

Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 06, 2016 09:50 PM (3CFdj)

510 Looks bad in FL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 06, 2016 09:46 PM (K63aO)

Yup.

At least the people who stayed can be armed!

Speaking of which: we need to arrange to shoot the Postal Match, and drag J.J. Sefton along.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 06, 2016 09:51 PM (Zu3d9)

511 509
Charlie, how would you know about the Clinton's misdeeds. You always appear to never hear about anything?

Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at October 06, 2016 09:52 PM (E9WpO)

512 505
Surely she likes "Spirit on the Water", doesn't she?
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:29 PM (sdi6R)

Posted by: hillary's left lateral rectus at October 06, 2016 09:48 PM (ir/G5)

Ha. I thought that comment went to The Other Place.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:52 PM (sdi6R)

513 Laminate the damn map!

Posted by: Duke Lowell back in the Corps in the 80s at October 06, 2016 09:52 PM (kTF2Z)

514 497 re: Twitter and the map

Is there any way to know , considering all the multiple handles, fakescreen names, socks, etc. how many peopl actually are on Twitter?

Maybe it's all just 25 unemployed guys who type really fast.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:46 PM (zu88C)

Best guess is about 5%, or 20, 000, 000 accounts are fake

http://tinyurl.com/mto95wy

Posted by: josephistan at October 06, 2016 09:52 PM (7qAYi)

515 on that 500 million yahoo hack....

Who puts any actual personal info signing up for a free email account?
birthday etc

Posted by: origional Jake at October 06, 2016 09:53 PM (ZYYfU)

516 does anyone know a racist in meatspace?

Not currently. But when I served in Germany, there was a fuck-stick racist from Missouri with whom I had to interact, because we were both medics at the Battalion Aid Station. Fucking douchebag.

This is going on 30 years ago. Guaran-gawdam-tee he is a fucking 9-11 Troofer now. Yeah. He was that fucking guy.

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at October 06, 2016 09:54 PM (b3h+X)

517 Clinton misdeeds?

Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 06, 2016 09:54 PM (3CFdj)

518 I'd like to think it's not me, but it's getting hard not to feel worthless.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 06, 2016 08:15 PM (0mRoj)

The last thing you are is worthless. Jesus willingly laid down his life for you so that you can enjoy an eternal relationship with God the Father.

You're going through a stressful time and it's normal to feel the way you feel. There is absolutely nothing wrong with asking your doctor for an antidepressant. They can work wonders and short-circuit the feelings of worthlessness.

Have a circle of friends that you can talk with. You would be surprised at how many have recently been through what you're going through now or are even in the same situation.

You also always have The Horde. We're not much, but we're better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

Posted by: Michael the Deplorable TEXIT at October 06, 2016 09:54 PM (nvMvs)

519 Oh good Lord, just saw a Hilary commercial accusing Trump of wanting to nuke the world.

Posted by: josephistan at October 06, 2016 09:54 PM (7qAYi)

520

This is me in a job interview.

http://tinyurl.com/og9v3nx

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:54 PM (zu88C)

521 does anyone know a racist in meatspace?

Yes, all liberals

Posted by: Jean at October 06, 2016 09:55 PM (ngn8T)

522 REALLY good stories guys.
thanks.

Posted by: concrete girl at October 06, 2016 09:55 PM (2DTh8)

523 Isn't telling a fake Twitter account from a real Twitter account functionally the same as telling a fake clown from a 'real' clown?

Posted by: Muldoon at October 06, 2016 09:55 PM (fYyCT)

524
Oh good Lord, just saw a Hilary commercial accusing Trump of wanting to nuke the world.
Posted by: josephistan at October 06, 2016 09:54 PM

Why not? Worked for LBJ.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 06, 2016 09:55 PM (IqV8l)

525 Even if most Twitter accounts are real, what % of them are actually used on a semi-regular basis? I'd be surprised if it;s more than 50%

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 06, 2016 09:56 PM (wD9H7)

526 So after Trump's massive infrastructure rebuild of America, what things will end up being named after him

Great Wall of Trump - of course

Trump International Airport - new NYC airport

??????

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 06, 2016 09:57 PM (BS8yt)

527 When I was RIf'd from Chase, my last day was the same day my Dad passed. A few weeks later, my wife says you look depressed, maybe you should go see someone. I said of course I'm depressed, I lost my Dad and my job, and unless a shrink can bring him back and give me a job, what good would it do? Also, no f'in way I'm giving them a reason to take away my guns that I totally lost in that tragic ocean kayak accident.

Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at October 06, 2016 09:57 PM (E9WpO)

528 Oh good Lord, just saw a Hilary commercial accusing Trump of wanting to nuke the world.
====

Big money in planet nuking...

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:58 PM (zu88C)

529 You would be stunned at some of the ridiculous "phone screens" that I have been through.

Stunned.

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:24 PM (zu88C)

*****

Yep. On two occasions I have had to explain to the first line HR Screeners the details of the job they posted without a clue in the world about the skills they were really screening for.

Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 09:58 PM (zbbdN)

530 Speaking of racist things....the left is upset with AirBnB because it's - get this - RACIST!! That's because you have to add a photo to your profile and blacks are supposedly getting denied requests by eeeeevil raaaaaacist hosts.

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 06, 2016 09:58 PM (wD9H7)

531 Yes, all liberals
.............

Like the ones who count the number or black and other minorities in catelogs?

Posted by: origional Jake at October 06, 2016 09:58 PM (ZYYfU)

532

MeAgain just called Hannity "my friend"

Surprised she didn't "bless his heart".

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:59 PM (zu88C)

533 what things will end up being named after him?

******

The Arc d' Trumph?

Posted by: Muldoon at October 06, 2016 09:59 PM (fYyCT)

534 Too bad cocoa Krisp doesn't play for the Red Sox anymore. They need a litle bit of something and some flair. Feeling a little flat.

How come the "Indians" isn't considered fascist? My kids always correcting me to say native Americans? Just curious. Kind of like the gay joke stephen Colbert made about Mike pence. Are the gay jokes ok now?

These rules are so confusing

Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 06, 2016 10:01 PM (3CFdj)

535 Regarding the Beast's assertion that Trump would "nuke the world;" I think a guy like Putin would be far less bold toward a guy like Trump than he would the Beast, because in Trump he would see a strong adversary; whereas with the Beast he would see, at the very least, a Fellow Traveler, and at most, a wobbly, sick, drunken GIRL who would melt into a puddle of goo as soon as he hollered "BOO!"

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at October 06, 2016 10:01 PM (b3h+X)

536 Ha. I thought that comment went to The Other Place.
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 06, 2016 09:52 PM (sdi6R)

is this what you mean by "The Other Place"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnevk-6h6aI

Posted by: mohammed ali at October 06, 2016 10:01 PM (ir/G5)

537 The Arc d' Trumph?
Posted by: Muldoon at October 06, 2016 09:59 PM (fYyCT)

If he can defeat ISIS and stop Islamic terrorism, he'll deserve it.

It'll be effn funny if there ends up being a monument to him in DC.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 06, 2016 10:02 PM (BS8yt)

538 Oh good Lord, just saw a Hilary commercial accusing Trump of wanting to nuke the world.

Posted by: josephistan at October 06, 2016 09:54 PM (7qAYi)

They said the same thing about Reagan. The thing is the left's play book is older than dirt and far too many people keep buying into the same old crap no matter how many times it's been proven wrong

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 06, 2016 10:02 PM (auHtY)

539 remember,
weakness in provocative

and crazy old ladies like Hillary are not fear inducing

Posted by: origional Jake at October 06, 2016 10:03 PM (ZYYfU)

540 Racist not fascist in my previous comment

Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 06, 2016 10:03 PM (3CFdj)

541
Are the gay jokes ok now?
These rules are so confusing
Posted by: Charles Gibson

The rules are "living."
Like the constitution.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 06, 2016 10:04 PM (IqV8l)

542 what things will end up being named after him?

Canadian power trio rock band Trump!

Trump, the Insult Comic Dawg

County landfill; the Trump Dump.

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at October 06, 2016 10:05 PM (b3h+X)

543 "I think it is now pretty obvious that most of the GOP's voters never really cared that much about small government or the constitution, and are basically fine with socialism so long as they perceive it as benefiting them. "

Seem pretty obvious to me that most GOP voters actually do care about such things, but the GOP as a party doesn't. They've been promising to limit govern

"Well if what they want is massive tariffs and expensive new child care entitlements and increased prices for consumer goods in order to bolster the wages in their defunct industrial towns, then no they shouldn't."

Your dismissive and simplistic characterization of "what they want" is part of the problem. But to the extent that the actual policies people do want are unhelpful, it's up to conservatives to explain why, and to present an attractive alternative.

Conservatism is a damaged, neglected brand and cannot win elections right now. Especially not when prominent conservatives think it's their solemn duty to chase heretics out of the movement.

Posted by: GalosGann at October 06, 2016 10:05 PM (md1b/)

544 Evening NGU

Some of my family members decided, against our pleading, to try to weather the storm. They are around 15 miles inland .

Gonna be a long night.

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 10:05 PM (zu88C)

545 The map is against the wall.

The map is against the wall.

Posted by: Pierre has a long isthmus at October 06, 2016 10:06 PM (FyuAv)

546 Speaking of which: we need to arrange to shoot the Postal Match, and drag J.J. Sefton along.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 06, 2016 09:51 PM (Zu3d9)

Yup..I'll call you

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 06, 2016 10:06 PM (K63aO)

547 542
Are the gay jokes ok now?
These rules are so confusing
Posted by: Charles Gibson

The rules are "living."
Like the constitution.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 06, 2016 10:04 PM (IqV8l)

I defy anyone who believes in a "living Constitution" to go play poker with someone who uses a "living Hoyle."

Posted by: josephistan at October 06, 2016 10:06 PM (7qAYi)

548 I am positively deplorable, and absolutely irredeemable. My elite betters have told me so, and I believe it completely. After all, if being redeemed involves adhering to the planks of the Demonratic platform, I'm quite sure that ain't happening.

And I'm quite certain of that, too.

Posted by: Deplorable tcn in AK at October 06, 2016 10:06 PM (cm1Bl)

549 You should lay off the butthurt shaming campaign, Ace. It obviously isn't working. You are literally convincing NOBODY to change their mind.

Maybe next time, not nominating a retarded chimp would be a good idea.
Posted by: Matt_SE at October 06, 2016 10:03 PM (ECsmS)

****

Well, you certainly convinced me. Those fcuking idiotic primary voters that put Trump in as the Candidate. It's their fault.....that great many of them.

Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 10:07 PM (zbbdN)

550 @Freaked.....Do not, I repeat, DO NOT deal with the other insurance company without an attorney. Forget the car, no attorney will deal with that. Concern yourself with your son's injury. Bring suit against the other party for that. My wife was rear ended in 1986 and her back/neck has given her issues every since. We hired a real top flight law firm and, although it took time, the other insurance company relented and paid. Never, EVER deal with the other party's insurance company alone. Hire an attorney. A personal injury attorney will work on contingency. At the very least, consult with one.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at October 06, 2016 10:07 PM (TPimP)

551 The only government the GOP has ever shrunk in my lifetime was Saddam Hussein's.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at October 06, 2016 10:08 PM (x3uSY)

552 Maybe next time, not nominating a retarded chimp would be a good idea.

Posted by: Matt_SE

President Hillary appreciates your support.

You're with Her.

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 10:08 PM (zu88C)

553 Maybe next time, not nominating a retarded chimp would be a good idea.
Posted by: Matt_SE at October 06, 2016 10:03 PM (ECsmS)

Yeah, somehow getting Timmy McDoodleface to debate Mike Pence was gonna convince..... exactly nobody to vote for Shrillary.

So, there's that.

Posted by: Deplorable tcn in AK at October 06, 2016 10:08 PM (cm1Bl)

554 Honest question. Which of the original R candidates, if nominated, could have beat the Hildabeast? I just don't know. Any way, at least Trump brought a lot of sh#t to light and exposed a whole bunch of frauds.

Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at October 06, 2016 10:08 PM (E9WpO)

555 Ace do you still respect Ben Shapiro's opposition to Trump? You seemed to cordially agree to disagree when you had him on The Podcast ages ago (I miss The Podcast).
Posted by: darii at October 06, 2016 07:56 PM (RdrW

Shapiro was blabbering incoherently on that podcast.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at October 06, 2016 10:08 PM (Ee2nz)

556 Matt_SE,

no answers to any of the questions then? What a fucking shock.

Posted by: ace at October 06, 2016 10:09 PM (dciA+)

557 can anyone name a GOP intellectual who can bench 225?

me either

Posted by: origional Jake at October 06, 2016 10:09 PM (ZYYfU)

558 Are the gay jokes ok now?
These rules are so confusing
Posted by: Charles Gibson

Well, they work for Milo.

Posted by: Deplorable tcn in AK at October 06, 2016 10:09 PM (cm1Bl)

559 Dang, it's been a while since I've seen Joe Bastardi. He looks...not good.

Posted by: no good deed at October 06, 2016 10:10 PM (/O5Ax)

560 can anyone name a GOP intellectual who can bench 225?

ace !

GAINZ BRAH

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 10:10 PM (zu88C)

561 >>>can anyone name a GOP intellectual who can bench 225?

me either

...

i really need to get to the gym again

Posted by: ace at October 06, 2016 10:10 PM (dciA+)

562 The map never lies!!!!

Posted by: Sirius Black at October 06, 2016 10:10 PM (3CFdj)

563 can anyone name a GOP intellectual who can bench 225?

me either

Posted by: origional Jake at October 06, 2016 10:09 PM (ZYYfU)

I bet Raul Ryan can look pretty sporty benching 165 with a pair of biker shorts on.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 06, 2016 10:11 PM (zc3Db)

564 Maybe next time, not nominating a retarded chimp would be a good idea.
Posted by: Matt_SE at October 06, 2016 10:03 PM (ECsmS)

Sheesh. I...

Eh...

Never mind.

Please accept this lack of response as a parting gift.

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at October 06, 2016 10:11 PM (b3h+X)

565 Honest question. Which of the original R candidates, if nominated, could have beat the Hildabeast? I just don't know. Any way, at least Trump brought a lot of sh#t to light and exposed a whole bunch of frauds.
Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at October 06, 2016 10:08 PM (E9WpO)

None because they all would have folded under the blitz the media would have inflicted on them. Plus they would have offered the standard milquetoast responses about trade and immigration. The white working class would have just stayed home.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at October 06, 2016 10:11 PM (Ee2nz)

566 This is not a pipe.

Posted by: Rene Magritte at October 06, 2016 10:11 PM (Nox3c)

567 can someone post a link to that new snark school?

that bench thing did not go as planned

Posted by: origional Jake at October 06, 2016 10:12 PM (ZYYfU)

568 >>Clinton misdeeds?

>Never heard of it

I caught them at Ft. Marcy Park.

They killed.

Posted by: Zombie Vince Foster at October 06, 2016 10:12 PM (Y613z)

569 565
That was my gut feeling too.

Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at October 06, 2016 10:12 PM (E9WpO)

570 I saw Rush open for Trump at the CNE Grandstand!

Posted by: andycanuck at October 06, 2016 10:12 PM (LdMbv)

571 538,
Reagan? Pfft.

Posted by: Barry "bomb em" Goldwater at October 06, 2016 10:13 PM (C9pBZ)

572 Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy

I said there was no injury. It's hardly worth an attorney for a 4k$ car.

Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 10:13 PM (BO/km)

573 Dunno, Matt, the Dems went with a preposterous unfit candidate twice in a row, won easily. Going with an accomplished businessman who strays into proposing wildly popular, critically important policies might be just the thing, style and personality foibles notwithstanding.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 06, 2016 10:14 PM (QDnY+)

574 >>>can anyone name a GOP intellectual who can bench 225?

I don't really consider myself an intellectual.

Posted by: garrett at October 06, 2016 10:14 PM (Y613z)

575 Thanks, Ace. Keep fighting the good fight.

Posted by: Chris M at October 06, 2016 10:14 PM (6RZos)

576 Good night all. Going to catch the end of the baseball game. 4 of them tomorrow. I'll have to pace myself.

Even so, come Lord Jesus.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 06, 2016 10:14 PM (bpfzP)

577 521 does anyone know a racist in meatspace?

Yes, all liberals
Posted by: Jean at October 06, 2016 09:55 PM (ngn8T)

This.

I was doing recess duty at my son's school, and the other duty person came up and remarked how wonder this school is because of all the diversity.

I said they all looked like Alaskans to me.

Dead silence.

Apparently, she was unused to hearing that most of us just don't give two good damns about what color a kid's skin is.

Too busy sorting people into meaningless categories to realize how racist they are, clearly.

Posted by: Deplorable tcn in AK at October 06, 2016 10:15 PM (cm1Bl)

578 Wow Cleveland is beating the red Sox 5-3 in the 6th

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 06, 2016 10:15 PM (K63aO)

579 570 I saw Rush open for Trump at the CNE Grandstand!
Posted by: andycanuck at October 06, 2016 10:12 PM (LdMbv)

Rush Limbaugh shreds on the six-string bass! Woot! \m/ \m/ !!

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at October 06, 2016 10:15 PM (b3h+X)

580 night, all, thanks for the encouragement. Tomorrow's another day, I'm hitting the sack.

Posted by: vivi at October 06, 2016 10:15 PM (11H2y)

581 569
565

That was my gut feeling too.

Posted by: fish...the lowercase one

====

You know here's what I think:

While the intellectual conservatives are fracturing, the working class is coalescing.

Maybe we are only seeing a tip of the iceberg?

Maybe it will work?

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 10:15 PM (zu88C)

582 How about a series of pipes?

Posted by: Ted Stevens at October 06, 2016 10:16 PM (FyuAv)

583 Honest question. Which of the original R candidates, if nominated, could have beat the Hildabeast? I just don't know. Any way, at least Trump brought a lot of sh#t to light and exposed a whole bunch of frauds.
Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at October 06, 2016 10:08 PM (E9WpO)

All of them were beating Hillary in head-to-head polls. Given how many Republican candidates at the state level are outpolling Trump, this should not have been a difficult year to win this going away. It shouldn't even be a race right now.

Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 10:16 PM (924j6)

584 Where in Alaska?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 06, 2016 10:16 PM (C9pBZ)

585 >> How about a series of pipes?

Are the joints ButtWelded?

Posted by: garrett at October 06, 2016 10:16 PM (Y613z)

586 I said there was no injury. It's hardly worth an attorney for a 4k$ car.
Posted by: freaked at October 06, 2016 10:13 PM (BO/km)

*****

There doesn't need to be an actual injury. You, via your Attorney, threaten them with an injury claim. Then you can negotiate it down to the 4k for the car plus your attorneys fees.

Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 10:16 PM (zbbdN)

587 I'm a serious deplorable, I get up at 5:15 every day so I can go to work and pay taxes so this country I Love with my whole heart can keep going!!

Posted by: lousagirl at October 06, 2016 10:17 PM (x7BO0)

588 Good! Pug got my double joke there. My night's complete.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 06, 2016 10:17 PM (LdMbv)

589 All of them were beating Hillary in head-to-head polls"

What color is the sky in your world?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 06, 2016 10:17 PM (C9pBZ)

590 can anyone name a GOP intellectual who can bench 225?

that wouldn't prove anything, anyway. real men warm up with 245.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 06, 2016 10:18 PM (zc3Db)

591 can anyone name a GOP intellectual who can bench 225?

I don't really consider myself an intellectual.

Posted by: garrett
=====

Why would they stop at a warm-up weight?

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 10:18 PM (zu88C)

592 584 Where in Alaska?
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 06, 2016 10:16 PM (C9pBZ)

Anchorage.

It is the city most urban centers wish they were. After living in white rice on a field of new snow Madison, WI and listening to how "diverse" they were.... HAH!

Look up Mountain View AK sometime. Most "diverse" neighborhood in the country. I didn't notice that, because it is just Mountain View, but apparently that matters to the Lower 48.

Posted by: Deplorable tcn in AK at October 06, 2016 10:19 PM (cm1Bl)

593 If Trump loses by a slim margin the NT "right" must never be forgotten or forgiven.

Posted by: cm9000 at October 06, 2016 10:19 PM (vYaiw)

594 *high five TPoP*

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 10:19 PM (zu88C)

595 No, I currently have a mindless, dead end job that barely pays the bills, and sometimes doesn't.

Not exactly what I was planning on at this stage of my life.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 06, 2016 08:30 PM (MVMBM)

I've applied at Chick-fil-A. It pays more than unemployment.That's what an English major and a life of restless adventure gets you. And my dead hubby isn't here to back me up.

Posted by: Miley's Deplorables at October 06, 2016 10:19 PM (L2UGl)

596 592
I used to live by Kincaid park out by the Anchorage airport stationed at Elmendorf.

Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at October 06, 2016 10:20 PM (E9WpO)

597 *high five TPoP*

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 10:19 PM (zu88C)

Ha! Great minds ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 06, 2016 10:20 PM (zc3Db)

598 OT: We need to have a weekend guacamole recipe thread. I have made guacamole a hundred times and every time it's surprisingly different and delicious.

This is some Mandela Effect level shit and should be explored with the same care and attention that parallel-world, time-line changing circumstances demand.

Posted by: Fritz at October 06, 2016 10:20 PM (cyoBN)

599 If Trump loses by a slim margin the NT "right" must never be forgotten or forgiven.
Posted by: cm9000 at October 06, 2016 10:19 PM (vYaiw)

I am keeping a list, checking it twice

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 06, 2016 10:20 PM (K63aO)

600 Ha! Great minds ...

===

and pecs!

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 10:21 PM (zu88C)

601 521 does anyone know a racist in meatspace?

Yes, all liberals
Posted by: Jean at October 06, 2016 09:55 PM (ngn8T)

*Dons sunglasses*
OOOHHHH YEEEAAAAHHHH!

I immediately thought of someone who was my fucking boss. He was also likely a 9-11 truther.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 06, 2016 10:21 PM (VdICR)

602 I'm a registered architect working as a soap kitchen manager. Pays a bit more than minimum wage, no benefits, no paid time off. Ain't life under the Obama Regime just a lovely experience? /spit

Posted by: Deplorable tcn in AK at October 06, 2016 10:21 PM (cm1Bl)

603 soap kitchen manager.
......

soap? that legal?

Posted by: origional Jake at October 06, 2016 10:22 PM (ZYYfU)

604 #595 Sweetness, I'm sending you a check from Heaven.

Posted by: Miley's Deplorable Dead Husband at October 06, 2016 10:22 PM (L2UGl)

605 596 592
I used to live by Kincaid park out by the Anchorage airport stationed at Elmendorf.
Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at October 06, 2016 10:20 PM (E9WpO)

And what colors were your neighbors? Yep. All of 'em. Thought so.

Posted by: Deplorable tcn in AK at October 06, 2016 10:22 PM (cm1Bl)

606 If Jeb Bush had sought the Democratic nomination, he could have beat Hillary, and had a real chance to win the presidency.

If Rubio had taken a hard line against illegal immigration, he'd be coasting to the White House.

If Cruz had spent money getting extensive plastic surgery, and gotten ripped at the gym, it would be cakewalk time.

Trump is the republican nominee because he is the very best out of the field that ran.

Posted by: dustydog at October 06, 2016 10:22 PM (6BLvJ)

607 Ben Sasse can probably bench 225, he was a quarterback and wrestler in college.

I'd like to think that despite his disability Charles Krauthammer could chuck a Nazi 50 yards through the air with one hand, if it became necessary. Kinda like Yoda at the end of Attack of the Clones.

Posted by: Cjw at October 06, 2016 10:23 PM (EmDt7)

608 605
We did have some freaky biker types down the road. Scary biker folks.

Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at October 06, 2016 10:23 PM (E9WpO)

609 I'll drop this here once more - Takl.com.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 06, 2016 10:23 PM (92uZF)

610 soap? that legal?
Posted by: origional Jake at October 06, 2016 10:22 PM (ZYYfU)

Not only legal, it is great for washing out lying mouths like Granny Rictus's. Should probably send her a new bar.

Posted by: Deplorable tcn in AK at October 06, 2016 10:23 PM (cm1Bl)

611 Shit must be getting real in Orlando. Disney has shut down. As I understand it, they never do that.

Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 10:24 PM (zbbdN)

612 602. Your just ungrateful.

Remember Timm-eh Kaine bragging about the 15 million jobs added to the economy under the obama administration?

Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 06, 2016 10:24 PM (3CFdj)

613 #604 Babe, I can save you the trouble. Tell God these are my numbers tomorrow night: 15-17-32-49-64, megaball 4

Love you!

Posted by: Miley's Deplorables at October 06, 2016 10:25 PM (L2UGl)

614 Krauthammer was a diver and a swimmer before he was disabled, IIRC.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 06, 2016 10:25 PM (VdICR)

615 I used to live by Kincaid park out by the Anchorage airport stationed at Elmendorf.

My son was just there, earlier this summer... he wanted to spray-paint the proper spelling of our name, which is Kinkade.

But he didn't, because it's cool to follow the rules.

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at October 06, 2016 10:25 PM (b3h+X)

616 I think that those who say "That's racist" or "[So-and-so] is a racist" should all die in a nice hot fire.

I would record their screams of agony, and remix them to create relaxing ambient music.

That's largely because I'm an artist, but it's also because I'm way drunk and my life is a nothingness eager to enfold itself. And my RAID drive is having issues, which is all my digital life about to BLISTER

But, you know, Trump is just awful, and it's so awesome to signal to all the right people that I am Totally For Hillary.

Because those who signal will get the jobs, the money, and they'll be able to live.

Unlike me.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 06, 2016 10:26 PM (AroJD)

617 Disney shut down, eh? It might be like Sharknado except with alligators from their waterways.

Posted by: IC at October 06, 2016 10:26 PM (vBpiM)

618 I'll bet Rich Lowery could bench 225 with 3 er, 'spotters'

Posted by: origional Jake at October 06, 2016 10:26 PM (ZYYfU)

619
Shit must be getting real in Orlando. Disney has shut down.

Finally, a short line!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 06, 2016 10:26 PM (IqV8l)

620 589 All of them were beating Hillary in head-to-head polls"

What color is the sky in your world?
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 06, 2016 10:17 PM (C9pBZ)

This is how Rubio was doing:

http://tinyurl.com/qcxrbev

This is how Kasich was doing:

http://tinyurl.com/zlhv84z

Try to memory-hole that if you want. I won't.

I thought Cruz was doing that also, though, and going back and looking over that--no, he wasn't. There was a period of time when he was. But it was sustained. He fell off.

So, I take it back. Not everyone.

Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 10:26 PM (924j6)

621 >>I have made guacamole a hundred times and every time it's surprisingly different...

me too Fritz

Posted by: concrete girl at October 06, 2016 10:26 PM (2DTh8)

622 Whoa, I don't know who the guy is on the NRA commercial wearing the Punisher t-shirt is, but I bet he warms up with 245. I'm drooling a little.

Posted by: no good deed at October 06, 2016 10:26 PM (/O5Ax)

623 New Audio Rack scheduled for delivery tomorrow.

Do I dare take my stereo apart before it actually gets here?

or, am I setting myself up for a ton of disappointment?

Posted by: garrett at October 06, 2016 10:26 PM (Y613z)

624 I am an American Nationalist. Which means I have no party. As a child, I was sold the concept of the melting pot, and I was down with it. Immigration with assimilation was a good thing. Now I'm the worst kind of racist, for believing there was an "American culture", not just a "white racist culture" that will only be "good" when all the minorities finally "check our privileges" once and for all.

Posted by: Deplorably Rusty Nail at October 06, 2016 10:27 PM (S2VsH)

625 Hey, totally drunk and avoided the barrel! Can I be a co-blog? I PASSED The TEST.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 06, 2016 10:27 PM (AroJD)

626 I've applied at Chick-fil-A. It pays more than unemployment.That's what an English major and a life of restless adventure gets you. And my dead hubby isn't here to back me up.
Posted by: Miley's Deplorables at October 06, 2016 10:19 PM (L2UGl)

I've applied there too. Never heard back.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 06, 2016 10:28 PM (MVMBM)

627 Rubio taking a hard line on immigration.

Point of order. On the Dem/idiot marinade/degraded civic culture side, there is no penalty whatsoever for constant, histrionic, absurd dishonesty and flip-flopping on key issues.

On the GOP side, the comical disaster that was Rubio on mass illegal migration and amnesty has no equal, and was a death sentence with the thinking portion of the primary electorate.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 06, 2016 10:28 PM (QDnY+)

628 does anyone know a racist in meatspace?

Yes, I do. The media, however, would declare it unpossible after one quick look at him.

Posted by: t-bird at October 06, 2016 10:29 PM (Z58Xa)

629 I'd like to think that despite his disability Charles Krauthammer could chuck a Nazi 50 yards through the air with one hand, if it became necessary. Kinda like Yoda at the end of Attack of the Clones.

I've seen pictures of Krauthammer once before his accident. He probably could have done it back in the day.

Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 10:29 PM (924j6)

630 Posted by: Matt_SE at October 06, 2016 10:27 PM (ECsmS)

Krispy Kreme, Fiorina, and yes, Cruz (who really is kind of a gargoyle when you get right down to it) had NO CHANCE against Hillary. The others... who knows? Depends on if they played by the media's rules or not. Most would, and most would lose like a Mitten.

Posted by: Deplorably Rusty Nail at October 06, 2016 10:29 PM (S2VsH)

631 Without a change in policy, the Republicans would be stuck at 61M votes.

And lose.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 06, 2016 10:32 PM (BS8yt)

632 Am I losing it, but do Matt_se's comments keep disappearing?

Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at October 06, 2016 10:32 PM (E9WpO)

633 i'd love to have a sit down with romney who sends me emails for that other guy. i truly would.

Posted by: concrete girl at October 06, 2016 10:33 PM (2DTh8)

634 >>>me too Fritz
Posted by: concrete girl <<<

But it's good, right? Oh, there are always naysayers, but you get an opportunity to know who is who? Amirite?

Posted by: Fritz at October 06, 2016 10:33 PM (cyoBN)

635 I'll have what Ace is having.

Posted by: Mary at October 06, 2016 10:33 PM (2ly7u)

636 #626 I've applied there too. Never heard back.

Country Boy, I've been invited to complete an application by their "Talent Director."

When I started my life in the work force, these people were "Personnel." Then they became "Human Resources." Now they're friggin "Talent Directors."

Posted by: Miley's Deplorables at October 06, 2016 10:34 PM (L2UGl)

637 Since my daughter is still fighting a 2 year battle with Lyme disease, I'm interested when I see things about tick born illnesses etc

So drudge has a link to article in the guardian about "tick induced mammalian meat allergy"

Wtf now a tick bite can make you allergic to meat? Thankfully it says bacon can usually be tolerated by people who develop the allergy

Game ticks !!!

Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 06, 2016 10:35 PM (3CFdj)

638 One place to start asking these questions is Allahpundit of Hotair.

He is sort of the archetypal NeverTrumper...Not super wealthy, I think, but still clearly claims to be a member of that "elite" class if you can infer anything from his negative obsession with Trump, or any politician who might say a good word about him, or heck even says a half-assed positive thing about him.

Posted by: William Eaton at October 06, 2016 10:35 PM (KhJh8)

639 no fish, Matt did appear/disappear at least once.

Surprised ace bothers to engage with that level of commenter.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 06, 2016 10:35 PM (QDnY+)

640 thanks for the chuckle Fritz.
at least the homemade chips turn out the same.
with lawry's salt.

Posted by: concrete girl at October 06, 2016 10:36 PM (2DTh8)

641 Damn ticks. I meant

But I admire ticks more than Hillary Clinton, so there's that

Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 06, 2016 10:36 PM (3CFdj)

642 Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 10:16 PM (924j6)

You really think that the guy who gave her an award, the guy who couldn't kiss Chuck Shumer's feet fast enough, or the guy who was afraid there may be someone left in the country who didn't know his daddy was a mailman would have stood against the combined vitriol of Hellary and the MSM?!

Cruz appeared to have the will but not the rhetorical ability and the others who *might* have at least tried all folded so early as to make the discussion as useless exercise in "What might have been".

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 06, 2016 10:37 PM (GDulk)

643 Haha. It happened again. Too funny.

Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at October 06, 2016 10:37 PM (E9WpO)

644 Because those who signal will get the jobs, the money, and they'll be able to live.

Unlike me.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm
======

I won't quit if you don't.

We will need artists in the camps.

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 10:37 PM (zu88C)

645 Anchorage? The big city, then.

Was a kid on Kodiak back in the day...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 06, 2016 10:38 PM (C9pBZ)

646 I see this long nightmare of a post is still up...

*thud*

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 06, 2016 10:38 PM (NKd+C)

647 @ Freaked...didn't you say he was experiencing tightness in his neck, etc? If he is, have that checked out. My wife started out with that. Soft tissue damage is very hard to diagnose. My wife was driving her 70 Chevelle which I had partially restored the year before. The other insurance company offered 500 bucks for the car. I told them to stuff it. Either replace the car with one in the same condition or nothing. After the suit for the injury to her neck, we went to arbitration over the car. I gave my wife a copy of every used/classic car magazine I could fine. Not a 70 Chevelle Malibu in any of them for under 3K. We received 3700 bucks and kept the car. Be careful if your son is experiencing any tightness or limited movement in his neck or back. If he is, consult with an attorney. It was the other party's fault, not your son's.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at October 06, 2016 10:39 PM (TPimP)

648 MAGA may have a point there about the GOP vote ceiling. And given the performance of the GOP congressional majorities since 2010, it was only going to get worse. For a reason (even though it's insane to vote for the Dems, given how extreme and irresponsible they have become).

concrete girl, really? Mitt sending out emails about this House staffer nobody? Mitt has never had a problem with personal stature or integrity, but this is just sad. Makes him look ridiculous.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 06, 2016 10:40 PM (QDnY+)

649 Ace, I don't know why I bother, but here goes. I continue to believe "there are some racists and anti-Semites in the GOP, or
at least who try to mix in GOP circles, but this is a small fraction
of the GOP, a fringe which has no power nor influence."

I don't oppose Trump because of this fringe. I oppose Trump because he's an ignorant, thin-skinned, easily-trolled, narcissistic authoritarian who doesn't care enough about the United States or his supporters to actually learn anything about policy or prepare worth a hoot for the debates. Not to mention that his protectionist economic policies would cause a sharp recession in the US.

"Oh, that means you love Hillary." No, sir! She's utterly awful too, in different ways, and I think that four years of her in the White House would be disastrous. I've pretty well decided to write in McMullin, as pointless as that is, because I am not obligated to anyone to vote for the lesser of two evils.

Once this election is over, I sincerely hope that conservatives can reunite. You sound like you're pretty close to saying you don't want anyone who refuses to bow the knee to Trump to be your ally again. I hope I'm either misreading you or that (out of pragmatism if nothing else) you change your mind.

Posted by: ScurvyOaks at October 06, 2016 10:40 PM (1nJy2)

650 can anyone name a GOP intellectual who can bench 225

Damn straight! Wusses all.

Check out my video of me tossing 225 grams around in the gym on Hawai'i, bitchez!

Posted by: HRH Barky I at October 06, 2016 10:40 PM (OF/aZ)

651 Hmm. So two out of a handful of GOP candidates is "all"?
Good to know....

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 06, 2016 10:41 PM (C9pBZ)

652 Blech!

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at October 06, 2016 10:41 PM (b3h+X)

653 I don't claim to be a part of the conservative "intellectual" class but I'm won't be voting for Trump.

I don't think many people at all who *are* voting for Trump are "racist" nor do I think that Trump's policies are "racist." I'm all for keeping illegal immigrants out, and I'm for Congress properly filtering the immigrants it allows into the country based on things like 1) religions that foster Islamic jihadists, and 2) various other attributes that may contribute to a lack of safety for our citizens.

So. More red herring questions I guess. Again.

RE: "I personally have no more emotional attachment to it . . . "

I remember that line from three+ years ago when Romney was nominated. And then again when Trump was *going* to be nominated. And now, when some conservatives and some RINOS aren't going to be voting for Trump, as they said time and time and time again for the past year that they wouldn't.

So I think we can all grant that none of us -- not the conservative who aren't voting for Trump, nor people who insist that if we do not all vote for the Republican nominee that the country will DIE -- none of us have any emotional attachment to the Republican Party. Like when we didn't vote for Romney and Obama was elected. Or when we didn't vote for McCain and Obama was elected.

And back when Bill Clinton was elected.

But this time . . . *this* time . . . if we don't vote for the Democrat that the Republicans nominated [and let's face it, quite a lot of Democrats and non-voters -- at least, so it was claimed] then the country will DIE.

And we can all grant that none of us have any emotional attachment to the Republican Party.

Good.

Posted by: Igor at October 06, 2016 10:41 PM (guOWV)

654 #638 Allahpundit is a stalking horse. I was the one who gave him the nick "Eeyore." He embraced it, and has done nothing but undermine conservatives and their hopes for years. I abandoned HotAir when it was sold.

Posted by: Miley's Deplorables at October 06, 2016 10:42 PM (L2UGl)

655 Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it

====

Hey neighbor!

Try the other locations. They are individually franchised and the quality of the store management varies wildly.

Try to talk with store owners in meatspace.. The good ones sit in the dining room during breakfast with a white shirt and a nametag.

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 10:43 PM (zu88C)

656 Once this election is over, I sincerely hope that conservatives can reunite. You sound like you're pretty close to saying you don't want anyone who refuses to bow the knee to Trump to be your ally again. I hope I'm either misreading you or that (out of pragmatism if nothing else) you change your mind.
Posted by: ScurvyOaks at October 06, 2016 10:40 PM (1nJy2)

*****

I have no interest whatsoever in reuniting with the assholes who think I am more of their enemy than Pelosi, Schumer and Reid. Why would you?

Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 10:43 PM (zbbdN)

657 IIRC, Cruz got a surge when he went off on the mfm moderators about their stupid questions during a debate. Then he abandoned that line of attack, while Trump has maintained his attacks upon the propagandists.

Newt did the same thing in 2012, went after the mfm, got a surge, then abandoned that line of attack. Moon bases?

Posted by: davidt at October 06, 2016 10:43 PM (XoldI)

658 I've pretty well decided to write in McMullin, as pointless as that isc

Ah, so pointless is good?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 06, 2016 10:43 PM (C9pBZ)

659 I was marinated in leftism until the age of 21. Somewhere along the way while earning a living, creating a business, and raising a family, reality encroached on my politics. So, I went Libertarian and voted that way until it occurred to me that protest votes are worse than a waste. Reluctantly I re-registered as a Republican and voted for GW in 2000...only to barf when he actually imposed steel tariffs and began using Big Government for Big GOP ends. Now I'm a registered Independent and don't intend to vote this cycle (not because I'm apathetic or lacking in principles--I live in California and voting is simply the definition of futility for anything above protozoan intellect).

The whole political party thing is on its way out the door. Hillary is likely to win, but after 16 years of leftist idiocy the country will do something very different. "Democrat" and "Republican" will have nothing to do with it. It won't be Blue vs. Red: it will be more like Blue vs. Gray.

Posted by: Lawrence Larson at October 06, 2016 10:43 PM (d/r2I)

660 We hate Trump too!

Posted by: 30 million mexicans at October 06, 2016 10:44 PM (LdMbv)

661 Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 06, 2016 10:35 PM (3CFdj)

The husband of one of the 'Ettes developed that.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 06, 2016 10:44 PM (GDulk)

662 Posted by: ScurvyOaks at October 06, 2016 10:40 PM (1nJy2)

*****

I have no interest whatsoever in reuniting with the assholes who think I am more of their enemy than Pelosi, Schumer and Reid. Why would you?
Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 10:43 PM (zbbdN)

Dittos.

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at October 06, 2016 10:44 PM (b3h+X)

663 Today I learned that Scrapple != Snapple. Thanks AOSHQ!

Posted by: Chris M at October 06, 2016 10:44 PM (6RZos)

664 I've pretty well decided to write in McMullin, as pointless as that is, because I am not obligated to anyone to vote for the lesser of two evils.
Posted by: ScurvyOaks at October 06, 2016 10:40 PM (1nJy2)

Did you vote in 2008 and 2012?

If you did, you voted for the lesser of two evils then. There's no excuse for not doing it now.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 06, 2016 10:45 PM (MVMBM)

665 You sound like you're pretty close to saying you don't want anyone who refuses to bow the knee to Trump to be your ally again

=====

Pull the stick out your ass, Shirley.

It's a binary choice. You don't have to bend your knee to vote.

Dipshit.

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 10:45 PM (zu88C)

666 661. Makes sense

Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 06, 2016 10:46 PM (3CFdj)

667 unitended consequences fer da win

Posted by: Billy at October 06, 2016 10:46 PM (aO+7k)

668 I've pretty well decided to write in McMullin, as pointless as that is, because I am not obligated to anyone to vote for the lesser of two evils.
Posted by: ScurvyOaks at October 06, 2016 10:40 PM (1nJy2)

Dude, you should vote for Johnson. Word is, he drops a nickel-bag in his campaign funding mailings. Totally worth it.

Dude.

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at October 06, 2016 10:47 PM (b3h+X)

669 Oh, and because I realize what a horror Hillary could be, I'm somehow bowing to Trump?

I'd reply more fully, but would probably get banned...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 06, 2016 10:47 PM (C9pBZ)

670 663 Today I learned that Scrapple != Snapple. Thanks AOSHQ!

Posted by: Chris M at October 06, 2016 10:44 PM

Next time, try to get Scrod.

Posted by: Mr. Smartypants (n�e Duncanthrax) at October 06, 2016 10:47 PM (OF/aZ)

671 Whoa, I don't know who the guy is on the NRA commercial wearing the Punisher t-shirt is, but I bet he warms up with 245. I'm drooling a little.
Posted by: no good deed at October 06, 2016 10:26 PM (/O5Ax)

Damo Rasso?
USNSW

Posted by: origional Jake at October 06, 2016 10:47 PM (ZYYfU)

672
Gah.

The Legion of the Eternally Butthurt.

Someday your prince will come.

Assholes.

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 10:47 PM (zu88C)

673 B-cuz pot!

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at October 06, 2016 10:47 PM (b3h+X)

674 666

Posted by: Yuimetal at October 06, 2016 10:48 PM (Pby3z)

675 Try to talk with store owners in meatspace.. The good ones sit in the dining room during breakfast with a white shirt and a nametag.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 10:43 PM (zu88C)

I'm 0 for 2 so far. Not sure i want to continue.

What's meatspace?

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 06, 2016 10:48 PM (MVMBM)

676 The real world

Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at October 06, 2016 10:48 PM (E9WpO)

677 674 - I was afraid of that

Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 06, 2016 10:48 PM (3CFdj)

678
Once this election is over, I sincerely hope that conservatives can reunite. You sound like you're pretty close to saying you don't want anyone who refuses to bow the knee to Trump to be your ally again. I hope I'm either misreading you or that (out of pragmatism if nothing else) you change your mind.
Posted by: ScurvyOaks

Think about what you wrote:

""Oh, that means you love Hillary." No, sir! She's utterly awful too, in different ways,"

then...

" You sound like you're pretty close to saying you don't want anyone who refuses to bow the knee to Trump to be your ally again. "

You just wrote that Ace insists you love Hillary, and yet you then set about accusing Ace of asking you to 'bow the knee to Trump.'*

Hyperbole isn't your friend. Ace isn't asking you to 'bow to the knee' (*BTW, it's 'bend a/the knee').

He's not asking you to do anything other than what the GOP has been asking of its core constituency for the past few decades, to suck it up and vote for the least worst choice.

At the most he's asking you to take your ego out of the equation and just make a simple binary choice.

This isn't a moral exercise. This isn't a demonstration of conspicuous piety.

It's a simple transaction to ward off a criminal traitor from permanently changing the US.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 06, 2016 10:48 PM (V3IFq)

679 What's meatspace?
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 06, 2016 10:48 PM (MVMBM)

*****

Non blog, real world life.

Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 10:49 PM (zbbdN)

680 The Indiana ballot states :

A write-in vote will NOT be counted unless the vote is for a DECLARED write-in candidate.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 06, 2016 10:49 PM (IqV8l)

681 You really think that the guy who gave her an award

Jeb Bush was never going to win the Republican nomination, even without Trump, and I never wanted him too. There was no enthusiasm for him in the party for good reason. If, by some miracle, he were the Republican nominee--would he beat Hillary? I'm not confident of it, because there was no enthusiasm. It's possible, since there are a lot of generic Republican state candidates beating Trump. But, I'd put that as a wash.

the guy who couldn't kiss Chuck Shumer's feet fast enough

I don't like that, but, yeah, he would have done it. All you needed this year was a generic Republican. I completely understand being repulsed by the idea of a "generic Republican" given their track record of doing jackshit. But that's all you would have needed to win.

or the guy who was afraid there may be someone left in the country who didn't know his daddy was a mailman would have stood against the combined vitriol of Hellary and the MSM?!

Yes. I thought he was the single most annoying person in the primary. At least with Trump, you can write stuff off as bluster. Kasich is dead serious. It must be annoying as f'k to have to spend time around him. But, he would have won.

Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 10:50 PM (924j6)

682 >>What's meatspace?

The Other, Other Place

Posted by: garrett at October 06, 2016 10:50 PM (Y613z)

683 Real life.

Not LinkedIN not HR.

Friggin stalk em. Let them know, calmy and rationally that you are for real. Hand them a nice business card and a resume. Make an appointment for a lunch meeting.

Worked for both of my kids.

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 06, 2016 10:50 PM (zu88C)

684 The real question is will you longbow or crossbow to President Trump.

Posted by: The Truculent Trebuchet at October 06, 2016 10:50 PM (FyuAv)

685 nood

ONT

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 06, 2016 10:50 PM (KCxzN)

686 Yes. I thought he was the single most annoying person in the primary. At least with Trump, you can write stuff off as bluster. Kasich is dead serious. It must be annoying as f'k to have to spend time around him. But, he would have won.
Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 10:50 PM (924j6)

*****

You have absolutely no clue as to why Trump won the nomination. Simply amazing.

Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 10:52 PM (zbbdN)

687 What continues to baffle me is how anyone can even fathom the thought of voting for the Beast.

Nobody ever said the Anti-Christ would be a man. Some said Obumbles is the Anti-Christ.

He's the devil's cabana-boy.

The Beast is called The Beast for very good reasons. She will ruin this fragile republic.

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at October 06, 2016 10:52 PM (b3h+X)

688 Posted by: ScurvyOaks at October 06, 2016 10:40 PM (1nJy2)

When Hillary takes the White House largely because you "principled voters" refused to hold your nose for Trump, you may not be forgiven. And since there won't be a Supreme Court left, and the rule of law will be completely replaced by a regulatory state, it won't really MATTER if we forgive you or not, at that point.

Does that spell it out clear enough?

Posted by: Deplorably Rusty Nail at October 06, 2016 10:52 PM (S2VsH)

689 685 nood

ONT

Oh, praise Baby Jesus!

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at October 06, 2016 10:53 PM (b3h+X)

690 Granted, with the various 3rd party candidates available for write-in votes, it's not a binary election

But it sure as fvck is gonna be a binary result, no matter what some highly principled keyboardist has to say about it, otherwise.

Vote totals are going to matter in this one.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 06, 2016 10:54 PM (v5iqM)

691 686 Yes. I thought he was the single most annoying person in the primary. At least with Trump, you can write stuff off as bluster. Kasich is dead serious. It must be annoying as f'k to have to spend time around him. But, he would have won.
Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 10:50 PM (924j6)

*****

You have absolutely no clue as to why Trump won the nomination. Simply amazing.
Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 10:52 PM (zbbdN)

Last time I checked, we're discussing beating Hillary. When we change topics, get back to me.

Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 10:54 PM (924j6)

692 Last time I checked, we're discussing beating Hillary. When we change topics, get back to me.
Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 10:54 PM (924j6)

*****

I was. That's why he was voted in as the nominee. Good Lord, you people are obtuse.

Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 10:56 PM (zbbdN)

693 I was. That's why he was voted in as the nominee. Good Lord, you people are obtuse.
Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 10:56 PM (zbbdN)

And that plays what role in the fact that he's doing worse vs. Hillary than Kasich would have?

Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 10:57 PM (924j6)

694 I hope that after this election is over the people I stabbed in the back will be dumb enough to go with what I want next time.

Posted by: LeperPines at October 06, 2016 10:58 PM (vYaiw)

695 Ace, I think this argument of yours is a complete mess, a construction of your own neurotic thinking, and if it weren't coming from someone that I am a generally a big fan of I wouldn't find it worth addressing. You could easily swap out the nouns to make the opposite argument about Trump supporters who find half the party too complicit with the left. You are making a universal argument about the potential pitfalls of an
emotional election season, and trying to apply it to a specific sect, a
sect which you very poorly defined to begin with. When you ask "Do you think maybe you're living in the echoes of a powerful emotional
experience, and perhaps should discount your emotional response a little
bit?", you do this while trying to play down your own emotional shock you've admitted to in seeing your co-hosts and former podcast guess express certain opinions online. You say you're not emotional about leaving the party over it, but you're apparently too emotional to do a podcast with your old co-hosts who disagree with you, or to maintain the quality of arguments we're used to from you from before the primary (when Ace headlines didn't sound like Drudge headlines) that didn't rely on trying to shame people into agreeing with you,

I've never been a fan of people on the right throwing out terms like racist and sexist cheaply, and that goes for their critiques of Trump and his supporters as well (I just defended Trump against charges of racism and homophobia to a leftist friend yesterday), and I tend to persistently object to racial insensitivity or political incorrectness being described as "racist". I think endorsing such sentiments (usually done to throw such labels back at the left) grants far too much leverage to the left, but folks on the right have been engaging in all of that shit since well before Trump, with minimal criticism from either of us. I can't speak for other anti-Trump people, but I also frequently read guys like Steve Sailer and Jim Goad, who are considered alt-right (a term which to me does not just refer to Storm Front types like it now does to a lot of people). But I do at least expect moral consistency on race from the right, and seeing Trump talk about confiscating guns in black neighborhoods without rebuke does, at the very least, make me see the right as far more shallow and far more unreliable as a coalition for the cause of liberty and Constitutionalism. I can forgive a lot, but I still need a spark of a reason to support this shitty party.

One of the biggest problems with political argument, and one that nobody is above, is the problem of the blind men describing the elephant. No one person (or even the whole collective of people taken as one) is capable of seeing the full picture, so you wind up, for example, describing a monolithic "GOPe elite" that is loyal only to Rubio and mass amnesty, and use that caricature to criticize people who were on hiatus from NR to work on the Cruz primary campaign because it's more convenient for your shitty argument. It's convenient to you to make a class argument for Trump supporters, even though after Trump's first debate with Hillary (for which NeverTrump's machinations were not needed) we're back to being where we were most of this year, with Trump having lower support from non-college educated whites than Romney. If you could make a convincing argument that Trump winning would be a long-term good for conservatives you would, but instead we have to resort to class-shaming (something you only seem to engage in when it coincides with your own selfish wants for a temporary political outcome).

I don't think Trump's support, even his primary support, is motivated by racism outside a few small fringes. I think you're wrong-headed to think it's motivated in conscious ideology at all. I think his primary support was mostly motivated by cult of celebrity, name recognition, media's Trump obsession, and the same sort of shallow enthusiasm for something different that put Obama ahead of Hillary in '08. I think there was a small contingent of ideological conservatives supporting him as well, which mostly consisted of dudes overly enamored with their own internal 3D chess-playing, and decided Trump was the key to some imagined Republican coalition, but I think those are the minority. I think the forces that launched Trump to the nomination would just as easily have launched Schwarzenegger were he constitutionally eligible. And no, I don't think this because I believe I'm so much smarter than the average voter. I work and do bar trivia with a bunch of STEM geniuses, way smarter than me, and I can promise you 90% of them are very low info voters with bad political instincts and reasoning, little in the way of ideology or ideological consistency, prone to believing conspiracy theories, and easily led by someone who sounds kinda smart like Jon Stewart if they're likable/cool enough and sound to them like they know what they're talking about. They are intellectuals and upper middle class elites, and they're as bad as the man on the street interviews you see on shows like Jimmy Kimmel, because while they do often have strong political opinions, politics isn't a big area of passion for them. And it isn't for most people who vote in a general election.

No matter how smart they are, political junkies, who live and breath in a sphere of ideology and ideas, have a hard time recognizing how little most people even think about such things. Your class arguments, Ace, are all premised on the idea that people who want Trump are consciously agitating for specific policies (a few, like Coulter, obviously are, but she's another elite, regardless of what she says about Mexicans), like trade protectionism and immigration reform, but to the extent we have quotes explaining support for Trump from his rank
and file fans, they sound pretty tepid, uncertain, and along the lines
of "eh, seems like something different's worth a try" http://tinyurl.com/zjl3vmp ). They don't seem to give near the amount of shits that you do.

We can see in the statistics that the rank and file of the party's opinions on such issues shift on a whim based on recent media. The massive shift in Republicans giving positive opinions of Putin (in response to Trump's Putin love) in polling shows this dramatically. Prop 8 winning big in California in 2008 among the same electorate voting strongly for Obama is another great example. Hell, even the college educated, politically engaged "smart set" you
keep talking about probably is barely informed about the
Boehner/McConnel vs. Tea Party sell outs you keep denouncing them for
complicity in, unless they're regular listeners to your podcast (I
myself certainly wasn't paying much attention to that outside your podcast), as it's a fringe wonk thing. Certainly, the average Trump primary voter does not know the term "GOPe", and his support represented about the same percentage among self-identified Tea Party people as among the broader party. Old Ace, who made real arguments, understood to never assume people were on the same page politically as you or else they'd already be doing what you wanted of them, and that you need to talk to them where they're at to reach them. People have different sets of knowledge to rely on, and different spheres of passion. You, Ace, are just spewing your own frustrations, and not talking to people where they're at. If anything, you're reducing the sphere of people ready to take your arguments seriously. Me and my only IRL friend who reads this site, the two of us having described you as a national treasure in the past, both find you impossible to take seriously of late, not because you're pro-Trump (my other favorite blogger, Kathy Shaidle, supports Trump, but she does it without diminishing herself), but because you're supporting him through the form of crybaby tantrums, and threats to take your ball and go home.

"Or do you just hope to use the racists for more useful ends, such as
being needed votes for TPP and amnesty and bombing Syria or whatever?". Here's an idea that is apparently pretty novel for 2016: They can vote for whoever the fuck they want, and so can I, and wherever we respectively see a viable coalition that we feel personally is worthy of our support, we support them? Just because it's a convenient argument for your class war narrative doesn't mean we on the anti-Trump right actually see them as tools to be used for our own political ends (his is an inference you have made based on partisan fury, you don't bother to support it beyond accusations about our motives, and you act like you expect us to take it as a legitimate criticism we should self reflect on). Similarly, we don't see why we should be enlisted in your political ends (and if political honesty is so important to you, maybe stop ventriloquizing a fictionalized conception of the blue collar white demographic and admit that broader support for Trump among Republicans is YOUR political end) if we don't see the value in them. 2014 Ace, who "quit the Republican Party" over matters of personal distaste and PRINCIPLED moral revulsion, understood this was any individuals prerogative. No Republican should feel compelled to vote for McCain, Santorum, Rubio, McConnell, etc. if they don't like them, even if they have shallow reasoning for not liking them, and the same should apply regarding feeling compelled to support Trump. Your fevered imaginings of an apocalyptic scenario of a Hillary presidency don't get to supplant our fevered imaginings of an apocalyptic scenario of a Trump presidency in our minds without REAL persuasion, something that until a few months ago you were quite effective at (you and Drew already had me hating this party before Trump came along and pushed me that final few steps over the edge).

If I had to bet money on what the Republican Party looks like in 4 years, my bet is it looks like Mike Pence at the VP debate: mostly business as usual, with everyone doing their best to pretend Trump never happened. I can't speak for any particular individual (even myself, when it comes to projecting out a few years) or internal demographic, but the broader coalition is, statistically speaking, reliable as clockwork, and all this sound and fury, as with the PUMAs in '08, signifies nothing long term.

Posted by: reform highlander at October 06, 2016 10:59 PM (xf3KI)

696 RE: "He's not asking you to do anything other than what the GOP has been
asking of its core constituency for the past few decades, to suck it up
and vote for the least worst choice."

Millions of former Republicans refused to vote for McCain. Millions more refused to vote for Romney.

A bunch of us did what Ace always said he would do. We don't vote for liberals, even when they're nominated by the purportedly conservative opposition party.

America needs a conservative opposition party. Until we have one -- we're really in a heap of trouble. Even if we had one, it would be a long haul out.

The instant I knew Trump was heading for the nomination was when I prepared myself for reality. "I, Hillary Rodham Clinton, do solemnly swear . . . "

The rest of the months since then has been having to listen to a whole bunch of people take a whole lot longer to get through the stages of grief -- and to do it all on Facebook and on blogs with lots of histrionics and garment-rending and lavender water and dramatic swoonings and ashes-pouring and bunches more drama and agonizing and threatenings and how-could-yous and further histrionics.

It's wearying, but we just gotta get through all the drama of the denial, anger, grief, denial, blame, denial, anger, denial, despair, depression, anger again, denial again, blaming again . . . etc, etc, etc.

Posted by: Igor at October 06, 2016 11:00 PM (guOWV)

697 And that plays what role in the fact that he's doing worse vs. Hillary than Kasich would have?
Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 10:57 PM (924j6)

****

Please provide a kink that proves Kasich would be beating Scankles as of todays date. Good God. Also, good luck with that.

Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 11:02 PM (zbbdN)

698 Kink, link, whatevs.

Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 11:03 PM (zbbdN)

699 But the Campaign Legal Center's detailed 52-page complaint against Hillary for America and Correct the Record -- part of the sprawling political empire run by Clinton backer David Brock -- is likely to get special attention, given Clinton's repeated advocacy of campaign finance reform. She has vowed to "curb the influence of big money in American politics" and to push for a constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United -- the controversial ruling that opened the door for groups such as Correct the Record to accept unlimited donations to benefit political candidates.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at October 06, 2016 11:03 PM (e8kgV)

700 Please provide a kink that proves Kasich would be beating Scankles as of todays date. Good God. Also, good luck with that.
Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 11:02 PM (zbbdN)

I already did. If you were paying attention at all to head-to-head poll, though, I shouldn't have had to.

This is how Kasich was doing:

http://tinyurl.com/zlhv84z

Trump won the nomination for a few reasons. Among them:

1. Republicans alternatively ignored and actively opposed their own base on immigration.

2. They accomplished little to advance the right despite holding Congress for most of the past 18 years and the Bush Presidency.

3. They constantly passed up opportunities to hinder Obama, most notably with Obamacare.

4. The nominees were all wedded to the lane theory of campaigning in the primaries, where they just focus on attacking people similar to them. By the time the field had winnowed down, it was late to make headway against Trump. This was especially stupid since the party leaders had front-loaded the process to try to pave the way for Jeb Bush.

5. Jeb Bush spent a ton of his time and money focusing on Marco Rubio, because he felt betrayed.

None of which affects the fact that Kasich would have done better vs. Hillary than Trump is doing.

Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 11:06 PM (924j6)

701 Generic republican = 61M votes tops.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 06, 2016 11:06 PM (BS8yt)

702 Once this election is over, I sincerely hope that conservatives can reunite. You sound like you're pretty close to saying you don't want anyone who refuses to bow the knee to Trump to be your ally again. I hope I'm either misreading you or that (out of pragmatism if nothing else) you change your mind.
Posted by: ScurvyOaks at October 06, 2016 10:40 PM (1nJy2)

-----------------------------------------------------------

I cannot speak for Ace, or anyone else...but for myself it will be a cold day in hell before I ally myself with anyone who is a radical internationalist again.

I don't care if that person is "conservative" or "liberal" economically. Or is holding a bible in the air, while prating on about the need for Americans give something again for international order. Realpolitik for America no matter if it is a trade deal or act of war from this point on!

I am a nationalist now, and for the rest of my life I will fight to regain American sovereignty (which is the only guarantee for American liberty) from those who have sold it out. Even if it means at some point we will have to settle for only a part of what once was geographically the nation called America. That is all it is becoming now anyway...a geographical location on a map. Sort of like Antarctica, or Asia...

Posted by: William Eaton at October 06, 2016 11:07 PM (KhJh8)

703 None of which affects the fact that Kasich would have done better vs. Hillary than Trump is doing.
Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 11:06 PM (924j6)

*****

I said as of todays date. That poll was from April. Nice try, Sport.

Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 11:08 PM (zbbdN)

704 694
I hope that after this election is over the people I stabbed in the back will be dumb enough to go with what I want next time.

Posted by: LeperPines at October 06, 2016 10:58 PM (vYaiw)

This "stabbed in the back" talk is truly psychotic. We told you all to your faces that we wanted no part of this shit show (was the phrase "cancer on the Republican Party" during the primary not clear enough for you?), then you all screamed like fanatics at our faces until we wanted nothing to do with you personally. These have always been the terms of the coalition, win with them or without them. Nobody betrayed you or deceived you or "forced Romney/McCain/Bush on you", get over it.

Posted by: reform highlander at October 06, 2016 11:10 PM (xf3KI)

705 RE: "When Hillary takes the White House largely because you "principled
voters" refused to hold your nose for Trump, you may not be forgiven."

M'kay.

Why we should want to be "forgiven" for not voting for the Trump supporters candidate I have no idea, any more than the Trump supporters will want to be "forgiven" for helping to elect Hillary Clinton by nominating a hellishly awful candidate, telling us they didn't need us when we informed them we wouldn't be buying their cow-patty Trump-burger product, and then screaming at us for 9 months solid about how awful we were that we wouldn't buy their cow-patty Trump-burger product.

Let's go ahead and take it as a given that neither group gives a hoot about the other group's "forgiveness" because neither group respects the other group's values, worldview, goals, decisions, or activities.

Posted by: Igor at October 06, 2016 11:11 PM (guOWV)

706 William Eaton,

Time for a moron meet up, me and you.

MAGA FOREVER!

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 06, 2016 11:14 PM (BS8yt)

707 Let's go ahead and take it as a given that neither group gives a hoot about the other group's "forgiveness" because neither group respects the other group's values, worldview, goals, decisions, or activities.
Posted by: Igor at October 06, 2016 11:11 PM (guOWV)

****

Ttanslation:

"I'm with her!"

Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 11:14 PM (zbbdN)

708 Let's go ahead and take it as a given that neither
group gives a hoot about the other group's "forgiveness" because neither
group respects the other group's values, worldview, goals, decisions,
or activities.

Posted by: Igor at October 06, 2016 11:11 PM (guOWV)
I guess there's no sense in calling it a party anymore, then. Without nationalism, I have less than no use for the GOP. And you globalists seem fine with that.

Posted by: Deplorably Rusty Nail at October 06, 2016 11:16 PM (S2VsH)

709 RE: "Ttanslation:

"I'm with her!""

[chuckle]

I don't give a fig how *you* translate it. I care what *I* think and what those of *my* values, worldview, and goals think.

You might have just as well said "Translation: I'm a gay transexual" and I'd still smile.

Posted by: Igor at October 06, 2016 11:17 PM (guOWV)

710 You might have just as well said "Translation: I'm a gay transexual" and I'd still smile.
Posted by: Igor at October 06, 2016 11:17 PM (guOWV)

*****

Not that there's anything wrong with that......

Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 11:18 PM (zbbdN)

711 I said as of todays date. That poll was from April. Nice try, Sport.
Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 11:08 PM (zbbdN)

Rob Portman is winning in Ohio by 12.8%.

Trump is winning in Ohio by 1.8%.

Toomey is down in PA by 0.8%.

Trump is down by 7.5%.

That was the difference between Trump and generic Republican in May, and that's the difference now.

Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 11:19 PM (924j6)

712 RE: "And you globalists
seem fine with that."

I'm not certain how you define "globalist." I *do* believe in free trade if that's what you define it as. And I believe in well-policed borders and illegal immigrant deportation. And many other things. It's a pity that we can't count on any of those beliefs -- along with, say, a recognition that minimum wages *harm* workers, along with larded-up forced Federal benefit packages [you know, like free daycare] and masses of Federal regulations add to the cost of hiring -- which is devastating to employment.

RE: "I guess there's no sense in calling it a party anymore, then."

Here we absolutely agree. I haven't had a use for the GOP since they all cheerfully supported GWB's Tarp bailout, No Child Left Behind further Federalization of the state schools, grossly expanded medicare, and oodles more of collectivist, large government policies.

Posted by: Igor at October 06, 2016 11:20 PM (guOWV)

713 RE: "Not that there's anything wrong with that......"

; > )

Posted by: Igor at October 06, 2016 11:21 PM (guOWV)

714 Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 11:19 PM (924j6)

Except no Democrat has ever run against "generic Republican" in the history of ever. They are always against someone, and that someone's name ends up as MUD at the end of this process. Mitt Romney was a liberal Governor of Massachusetts, until he ran for President. Then he was a monster who kept "women in binders", "gave a woman cancer", "never paid taxes" and who would put all black people "back in chains". And these weren't fucking pundits saying this, it was our goddamned VICE PRESIDENT and our SENATE MINORITY LEADER! And no one bats a fucking eye anymore at these charges.

And I'm supposed to feel embarrassed, or guilty, about any outrageous thing Trump says, after decades of this shit?!?! You're talking to a guy who does NOT GIVE A SHIT about what you think is important in politics anymore, if that wasn't already clear to you.

Posted by: Deplorably Rusty Nail at October 06, 2016 11:24 PM (S2VsH)

715 That was the difference between Trump and generic Republican in May, and that's the difference now.
Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 11:19 PM (924j6)

****

Trump is beating Scankles in the one state Kasich won....his own. And you want to claim data from April support the fact that Kasich would be winning nationally against Hildebeast? Good luck with that.

Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 11:25 PM (zbbdN)

716 Millions of former Republicans refused to vote for McCain. Millions more refused to vote for Romney.

Posted by: Igor

Nope.

Romney got a higher % of the conservative vote than did McCain.

Sell it to the idiots on Redstate.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 06, 2016 11:26 PM (V3IFq)

717 Trump is beating Scankles in the one state Kasich won....his own. And you want to claim data from April support the fact that Kasich would be winning nationally against Hildebeast? Good luck with that.
Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 11:25 PM (zbbdN)

Lessee, since Rob Portman is doing 10 points better than him.

Yeah.

Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 11:27 PM (924j6)

718 Lessee, since Rob Portman is doing 10 points better than him.

Yeah.
Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 11:27 PM (924j6)

****

I bow to your inferior intelligence, way outdated polls, and simple wishcastkng. Rob Portman....lol....I never even considered bringing him up, even as a joke. He is one, but I had forgotten about him.

Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 11:30 PM (zbbdN)

719 Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 11:19 PM (924j6)

Except no Democrat has ever run against "generic Republican" in the history of ever...

Of course they haven't. But as a proxy, that's all we have to go by. And the same thing they did to Romney and that they're trying to do Trump is what they're trying to do Portman in Ohio and Toomey Pennsylvania. For some reason, those guys are doing a hell of a lot better. Now, again, I don't like him--but which of those guys do you think is closer to Kasich?

Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 11:31 PM (924j6)

720 but which of those guys do you think is closer to Kasich?
Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 11:31 PM (924j6)

In New Hampshire, Kasich sold himself as "left of Hillary" to pick up Sanders voters in their open primary. Maybe it's a better question for Kasich.

Posted by: Deplorably Rusty Nail at October 06, 2016 11:33 PM (S2VsH)

721 I bow to your inferior intelligence, way outdated polls, and simple wishcastkng. Rob Portman....lol....I never even considered bringing him up, even as a joke. He is one, but I had forgotten about him.

Whatever, dude, I'm sure ad hominem will change the fact Kasich was doing 10 points better than him and generic candidates are doing 10 points better than him right now.

Maybe you should try ad hominem after Nov. 8th. Maybe that'll change the election results.

Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 11:33 PM (924j6)

722 720 but which of those guys do you think is closer to Kasich?
Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 11:31 PM (924j6)

In New Hampshire, Kasich sold himself as "left of Hillary" to pick up Sanders voters in their open primary. Maybe it's a better question for Kasich.
Posted by: Deplorably Rusty Nail at October 06, 2016 11:33 PM (S2VsH)

Fully aware of that, which is one of the reasons I don't like the guy. It still makes him closer to those people than Trump.

Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 11:35 PM (924j6)

723 Whatever, dude, I'm sure ad hominem will change the fact Kasich was doing 10 points better than him and generic candidates are doing 10 points better than him right now.

Maybe you should try ad hominem after Nov. 8th. Maybe that'll change the election results.
Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 11:33 PM (924j6)

*****

Your polls are 6 months old. Show me, by link, fresher ones that include todays date, and we can talk. Go on, ya scamp! Get to work.

Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 11:37 PM (zbbdN)

724 Your polls are 6 months old. Show me, by link, fresher ones that include todays date, and we can talk. Go on, ya scamp! Get to work.
Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 11:37 PM (zbbdN)

Have fun believing what you want. I'm sure that'll change the facts on the ground.

Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 11:37 PM (924j6)

725 Trump is a capitalist. Hillary is a socialist (well, she plays one on TV, anyway). Sanders is a communist. Kasich feels he is the "middle ground between Hillary and Sanders".

So if Toomey and Portman are "closer" to someone in between socialism and communism then they are a centrist capitalist, then the GOP is so much worse and far gone than I ever gave it credit.

Posted by: Deplorably Rusty Nail at October 06, 2016 11:39 PM (S2VsH)

726 So if Toomey and Portman are "closer" to someone in between socialism and communism then they are a centrist capitalist, then the GOP is so much worse and far gone than I ever gave it credit.

The only part of this I disagree with is that you should have given it more credit.

Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 11:41 PM (924j6)

727 Have fun believing what you want. I'm sure that'll change the facts on the ground.
Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 11:37 PM (924j6)

****

Still waiting for those links to polls that show Portman and Kasich beating Scankles as of 10/6/16. Please provide them.

Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 11:41 PM (zbbdN)

728 The fact that Trump was running neck and neck with Gary Johnson among military voters during his highest polling period ( http://tinyurl.com/hesjaf4 prior to his tanking from the first debate) should really put this shit about the self-appointed NRO elite killing Trump to rest. Unless you want to argue that the military are mostly white collar, college degree-obsessed, Smart Set, traitor cucks colonized by liberal thought. He's not a conservative, so conservatives don't want to support him, and everyone knows he's completely unstable and unqualified for the job, this is obvious to most people without college degrees.

Posted by: reform highlander at October 06, 2016 11:42 PM (xf3KI)

729 Still waiting for those links to polls that show Portman and Kasich beating Scankles as of 10/6/16. Please provide them.
Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 11:41 PM (zbbdN)

You aren't worth my time.

Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 11:43 PM (924j6)

730 Night everybody, I'm out.

Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 11:43 PM (924j6)

731 Posted by: reform highlander at October 06, 2016 11:42 PM (xf3KI)

****

Boring troll thread bottom feeders are boring.

Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 11:43 PM (zbbdN)

732 You aren't worth my time.
Posted by: AD at October 06, 2016 11:43 PM (924j6)

*****

Translation:

"I can't defend my positions, and fcuk you Meany McMeenster for challenging me!".

Posted by: GrampyB at October 06, 2016 11:46 PM (zbbdN)

733 725
Trump is a capitalist. Hillary is a socialist (well, she plays one on
TV, anyway). Sanders is a communist. Kasich feels he is the "middle
ground between Hillary and Sanders".

So if Toomey and Portman are
"closer" to someone in between socialism and communism then they are a
centrist capitalist, then the GOP is so much worse and far gone than I
ever gave it credit.

Posted by: Deplorably Rusty Nail at October 06, 2016 11:39 PM (S2VsH)

Why was the "capitalist" gushing on camera about how great the "socialist" would be as president in 2012? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5A02pNcGHs

Posted by: reform highlander at October 06, 2016 11:47 PM (xf3KI)

734 Matt_SE got banned? Lulz.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 06, 2016 11:55 PM (sdi6R)

735 RE: "Romney got a higher % of the conservative vote than did McCain."

Nice way to try to change what I said. "Percentages" has nothing to do with the millions who did vote for GWB and who were reliable voters for whatever the Republican party churned out and who refused to vote for Romney [or for that matter, McCain]. As I was one of those, I should know.

No, the Republican Party lost conservative voters, and continues to lose more of them every four years.

Posted by: Igor at October 07, 2016 12:00 AM (guOWV)

736 Posted by: Igor at October 07, 2016 12:00 AM (guOWV)

Not to be crude, but some of them could be dying. Our dead don't vote as reliably as the Democrat dead (and their pets) do.

Posted by: Deplorably Rusty Nail at October 07, 2016 12:02 AM (S2VsH)

737 Hey AD -- you and I share some of the same theories and commitments and I get what you're saying -- Kasich was farther ahead then Trump is now [and hey -- Gramps gets it too, he's just filled with anger and terror right now and will be for a long time after the election too]. But I'm hoping you're not saying that Kasich could have won against Rodham Clinton -- I actually don't know that he could have.

I think Kasich would have been a lousy choice. Maybe not as incoherent and vacuous as Trump, but still -- pretty bad. I know he and Jeb were the choice of the establishment but I don't know how electable either one was.

For the longest I've believed the demographics are pretty darn bad for "Republicans" in general [both the conservatives who are an obvious minority, and the RINOS/establishment]. I've been a realist about the unfortunate demographics in the US now for a while -- we're in big trouble.

RE: "Maybe you should try ad hominem after Nov. 8th."

Oh believe me -- there'll be even more screaming and stamping afterwards then before. It's always hard to be proven wrong -- and even though they were told, they won't be able to accept the blame -- not ever -- it's just not in their nature.

RE: "Show me, by link, fresher ones that include todays date, and we can talk."

Now *that's* a threat if I ever read one! ; > )

Posted by: Igor at October 07, 2016 12:16 AM (guOWV)

738 The only people I know in real life that liked Kasich are straight-ticket Democrat voters. And that's living in CA. Plenty of Dem representatives around here sound less liberal on the campaign trail.

Posted by: Sjg at October 07, 2016 12:26 AM (gDSJf)

739 I think there was an SNL bit where Bill Clinton got elected president, had a moment to himself in the Oval Office, and pulled off a rubber mask to reveal that he was really David Duke. "Yee haw, i did it! They fell for it!" or something similar. Duke ran for Gov of Louisiana in 91 and part of his platform was welfare reform. If you dig deep enough you might find his 30 minute campaign ads talking about this. He didn't come up with the idea, though. But, just like today, Democrats would scream "racism" not just because a former KKK Grand Wizard was pushing it, but because the people most affected by welfare reform would be black. Duke lost, but not because of that. I know that because welfare reform was a cornerstone of The Contract With America. Newt put Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 on Bill Clinton's desk and he SIGNED IT. So now who's the racist? For the record, i don't think Newt is a racist. Bill might be, but, to steal a line from another president, Bill may suffer from "the soft bigotry of low expectations." Duke probably is, but there's a couple of points there where he could have changed his ways and done some good, but Edwin Edwards brought out the black vote in 91 and that might have carved Duke's racism and bigotry in stone. Really, any one who goes to Iran just to badmouth the Jews doesn't need to be senator of anything.

Posted by: hurricane567 at October 07, 2016 12:42 AM (w9N65)

740 Nice way to try to change what I said. "Percentages" has nothing to do with the millions who did vote for GWB and who were reliable voters for whatever the Republican party churned out and who refused to vote for Romney [or for that matter, McCain]. As I was one of those, I should know.

No, the Republican Party lost conservative voters, and continues to lose more of them every four years.
Posted by: Igor

I didn't change a thing your wrote. You said Romney's conservative voters dropped off. That's categorically wrong.

Further you misrepresented my fucking point in the first place.

"He's not asking you to do anything other than what the GOP has been asking of its core constituency for the past few decades, to suck it up and vote for the least worst choice. "

That's what I wrote.

Nothing there is contradicted by your reply. Nothing. You're pissing up a rope.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 07, 2016 12:53 AM (V3IFq)

741 The choice is simple...Trump can't be worse than Clinton, but Clinton can be worse than Trump. Unlike the last election, this is a lessor of two evils scenario. What I truly wonder is, how did the media's obsession with the Clintons occur? It's obvious that it did, but how did it all come about inn the 90s and carry over 3 decades?

Posted by: Shefpan at October 07, 2016 01:12 AM (flBhb)

742 I am not sure what this post was all about. That so-called "racist southern strategy" was a term made up by the Democrats. Yes, the Southern States used to be solid Democrat for decades. That was a holdover from the Reconstruction days after which no Republican could get elected anything anywhere in the South. That changed around 1968 when the antimilitary hate America wing of the Democrats took over the Democrat party. There were probably a few racists in that group but no more than what the Democrats have. But after the 1968 convention those rolls reversed.

As a matter of fact the two most racist groups in the country now are the NAACP and the CBC who are solidly Democrat. Nearly everything they do is based on race. That is the very definition of racist. As for that much ballyhood KKK it now has more undercover FBI agents than it has members. And what if left of it is a few fractured groups in southern IL and IN. I have seen one KKK parade in my entire life and that was in MD in 1971.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 07, 2016 01:12 AM (mpXpK)

743 There are VERY FEW anti-semites on the conservative side, like about the same percentage as are gay. Maybe half a percent? But because there is right now AN ACTUAL JEWISH CABAL, organized by America's highest profile conservative Jews, to stab the conservative base in the back, this has caused that half-percent to torch Goldberg, Kristol, Shapiro, et al. on the highest burn setting this country has ever seen, and since these guys do not want to admit that they have formed and ACTUAL JEWISH CABAL they have decided to take the small percentage of anti-Semites they have inflamed as representative of the great mass of conservatives who now absolutely hate their guts.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at October 07, 2016 01:56 AM (5z7RS)

744 PPS: Are you guys who think the party is chock-a-block with racists sure you're not just spending too much time on Twitter?

Yes, it was a weird, alarming thing when several hundred "CelticWarrior69" and "OdinsTears77" accounts sprung up at once and began tweeting out racist and anti-semitic memes.

This ^^ a million times.

I have been telling this to NeverTrumpers on Twitter for months.

And these possibly bogus, but not always, commenters have magically sprung up on blogs where none existed just a short time ago.

We know this type of thing is practiced in other countries, http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-how-to-hack-an-election/

We also know Hillary spent money to hire internet trolls.

The thing about the internet is that you do not know who you are talking to. Just because their handle is Jack Johnson doesn't mean they are any more real than PillowWarrior69.

Posted by: wodun at October 07, 2016 03:54 AM (MnbWw)

745 For a while I thought the funniest part of this election season was the best and the brightest professional (R) politicians were defeated by a retarded chimp who was not a conservative and who
everyone knows is completely unstable and unqualified for the presidency, but now I think it's that people who are worried about "the party" believe it will be possible to win another election after voting demographics are drastically changed after amnesty.

And really, who cares anyway? Clinton gets 3-5 lifetime SCOTUS appointments with our current "not a tax" and "we can write gay marriage law" court as a baseline.

We're watching, and many True Conservatives are actively pursuing, Hillary's FDR moment, and there's no coming back from that.

Posted by: Billy Dale at October 07, 2016 04:32 AM (x4zgf)

746 Re: "I didn't change a thing your wrote."

Well of course you didn't -- you can't, after all, actually edit comments here.

RE: "You said Romney's conservative voters dropped off. That's categorically wrong."

Well, I guess we're defining "conservative" differently which isn't a surprise considering which side of the chasm we're on regarding Trump.

RE: "Further you misrepresented my fucking point in the first place.
"

No, I did not misrepresent it -- I responded to it. By your own statement, here is your point:

"He's not asking you to do anything other than what the GOP has
been asking of its core constituency for the past few decades, to suck
it up and vote for the least worst choice. "

And my response is -- much of the core constituency won't be doing that, and hasn't done it for the past eight years. That's not something *I* came up with -- it's something that conservatives have noticed for eight years now. Go back and read Rush's commentary on the Romney election [Rush is, obviously, not a favorite of mine as his primary stated goal is "to beat Democrats" and therefore he's shilled for Trump for many interminable months now -- he says it over and over and over again, and that's clearly not my *primary* goal -- he talked on and on about the missing voters in the Romney election, using the GWB 04 election as a benchmark.] Back in 04 -- what was considered a "base turnout" election for the Republicans, some 62 million voted to re-elect GWB. I was one of those 62 million.

I -- and a whole lot of other people -- didn't vote for McCain [or Obama] and I didn't vote for Romney [or Obama]. And we won't be voting for Trump.

So I understand your point -- the Republican party wants conservatives and establishment Republicans to please vote for their next awful and actually *increasingly liberal* candidate.

It's just that the Republican Party simply can no longer "command" a large [but minority] cadre of conservatives to vote for their "least worst" [heh] candidates.

This is reality.

I recognize that the statements of such realities make people angry and fearful and cause them to say kind of incoherently enraged things on this thread and others. And I'm certainly not trying to persuade you or anybody else to anything at all -- everybody's positions are set and the vast majority of us on this thread will be voting as we've said we're going to vote for the past year. But it is reality.

The thing that's interesting *this* year -- and pretty amazing -- is that I suspect a whole lot of RINOs won't be voting for the Republican nominee either for their own reasons.

I've always said that Trump won't be able to make up for the loss of chunks of both of those groups -- conservatives like me, and Republican establishment guys with his 1) cross party Democrats that he bragged about who voted in the primaries and 2) blue-collar people who have never engaged much in the political process, including voting.

But -- we shall see in November.

I will come onto an Ace-gloating thread after the election and eat a whole lot of crow should Trump win. Lots of glossy-winged black crow with beak and feathers and claws.

Posted by: Igor at October 07, 2016 08:55 AM (guOWV)

747 The lashing out at the relatively few NeverTrump is getting down right embarrassing. Fact is you have chosen to support a con artist not fit for the office who isn't putting in the work necessary to beat an awful and weak candidate. He's not doing his homework for the debates, he's not doing the ground work necessary to get people to the polls, and he keeps on stepping on his own dick with poor impulse control. It's almost as if he's really running to just to satiate his own ego instead of running to win, that he's not all that opposed to having the candidate in office that he's previously donated money to, had at his wedding.

But instead of admitting all of the above, you continue to attack those who've declined to support such a clown. It won't be NeverTrump that costs him the White House, it'll be the awful candidate you've lost all sense to support.

Posted by: NeverTrump at October 07, 2016 09:39 AM (M/9Pj)

748 RE: "He's not doing his homework for the debates . . . "

Hey Never Trump -- he's prepping. He just wants to put out that kind of message in advance, in part for his street reputation and in part to lower expectations.

It doesn't do for a guy who's made his reputation in part on being a brash impulsive "no-limits" kind of guy rhetorically to put the word out that he's sweating the details -- that's not what the cool kids do.

And besides -- if he or his campaign *did put out that word, don't you think the media and others would cackle hysterically over how ill-prepared he actually ends up looking after all that hard work?

No -- he's playing the right rhetorical/image game here on the whole "debate prep" thingy.

Posted by: Igor at October 07, 2016 09:50 AM (guOWV)

749 "The map is not the territory, guys."
So, I don't live only 4 inches from Vegas?

Posted by: mrt721 at October 07, 2016 10:22 AM (JeAp+)

750 Cucks gotta cuck.

Posted by: Mr. Mystery at October 07, 2016 10:36 AM (AVVYL)

751 Just how many more of these tedious posts are you going to put up?

You people nominated this clown. Not me.
Own it.

It's blank at the top and I'll vote for conservative candidates down ticket.

Don't like it? Tough.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at October 07, 2016 01:14 PM (0xzXo)

752 Ace- to tie this racist harangue of the Left around the necks of the Conservative Intellectual class and the NeverTrumpers is beneath you.

As a former NeverTrumper who probably will in the end vote for the Dark Evil Lord Swindler Trump, only because Hillary's tax proposals ( 65% estate tax here we come) and her running mate Tim Kaine are so beyond the pale, this attack does not help.

Instead of attacking the conservative right, why not attack Hillary instead with some real meat behind it.

The vast majority of America think both Hillary and the Donald are corrupt evil bastards, ( and they are right) so trying to pile on more dirt on Hillary doesn't affect anything. What Trump needs to do is talk issues, and tell beyond trite slogans how he really is going to make America Great again. And also how he is not going to destroy the economy even more than Buraq Hussein has already - like Hillary if she gets her way surely will do.

Posted by: Unsk at October 07, 2016 01:22 PM (DUgBb)

753 I'm not a racist but I'm thinking of becoming one. After all if so many have taken the plunge it must have something going for it.
Do racists have better luck with the ladies, or do they have a great health care plan and retirement package?
What are the advantages, and if the liberals are correct about the numbers, why do so many people choose to become racists?
I'd hate to be missing out on this.
And why aren't liberals racist?
Is there a high entry fee, or is there some kind of commitment they have to make to become one?

There must be SOME reason so many tens of millions of decent hard working people choose to become racists.
Is it some kind of discount, like senior citizens get?

And yes, my tongue is firmly in my cheek.

Posted by: Stan at October 07, 2016 01:26 PM (f4iIM)

754 but now I think it's that people who are worried about "the party" believe it will be possible to win another election after voting demographics are drastically changed after amnesty.

Posted by: Billy Dale at October 07, 2016 04:32 AM (x4zgf)

Not that this isn't an important issue, but being uncompetitive among millennials makes it a moot point. Like it or not, there are a massive amount of them and they and their progeny are going to replace current Republican voters in large numbers every 4 years. We know now from things like census data that the 2012 exit polling significantly overestimated the growth in the non-white population ( http://tinyurl.com/hrtuwxc). This sounded at the time like a reasonable explanation for Obama's 2012 victory, but we now know it isn't the case. In fact, it doesn't seem to be the case that Obama's coalition transfers naturally to non-exciting Democrats.
Millennials are winnable, especially as they turn 30+ and start raising families or running businesses in much larger numbers. They also hate Hillary, they just hate Trump much worse. Virtually everyone sees Trump for the trainwreck, manchild psychopath that he is, it's just a large contingent of Republicans have rationalized that he is exactly the Hail Mary we need right now (or have resigned themselves to that out of partisan loyalty), but nobody outside the existing coalition shares this logic.
Maybe it's enough to win, certainly he's more competitive than I would ever have expected (against a widely loathed figure like Hillary, at least), but best case scenario it holds together a coalition that isn't big enough to be very competitive. Hillary is hemorrhaging Millennials relative to Obama's coalition, but they're not coming over to the Republican Party, and we seem intent on keeping them away by acting like maniacs.

Posted by: reform highlander at October 07, 2016 01:27 PM (jCH/T)

755 RE: "Just how many more of these tedious posts are you going to put up?"

Three a week for the next four weeks, minimum.

Then three a week that are similar for a couple more months, minimum [we will categorize those under "revenge posts."] So if you're counting that will be 12 + 24 for a total of about 36 more.

I love Ace's blog and can put up with -- either ignoring or occasionally randomly commenting pointing out the red herrings and irrelevancies as I have the time and energy -- these 36 coming posts to get to all of Ace's still-very-good stuff.

When you're angry and scared you just have to vent and that's what these are. Then he moves on to great stuff for a while, then has to vent some more. It's a part of the stages of grief.

Posted by: Igor at October 07, 2016 01:28 PM (guOWV)

756 Well, the GOP is certainly less full of racists than the grievance-obsessed Democrats, but I'm not voting for a guy whose Mideast policy a month before the election is still "we should take the oil." What a jackass.

The Supreme Court was lost when Trump was nominated. It's nice he gave his suckers a list of conservative judges, that will give him something else to wipe his ass with after he's used up the Constitution, in the unlikely event he becomes President. As Orin Kerr pointed out, Trump will nominate a reliable Trumpist.

Posted by: TallDave at October 07, 2016 01:30 PM (74ZYB)

757 As if on cue...

https://twitter.com/jaynordlinger/status/784433514691297280

Posted by: Doug at October 07, 2016 02:02 PM (3RVQo)

758 Anyone see the movie where a guy makes a model of Manhattan ( I think) and recreates it with actors.
As every caller to C-Span is essentially a pundit, is our world a fake version of authentic?
Me, ready for SMOD.

Posted by: Joe Mack at October 07, 2016 09:44 PM (cJDvr)

759 "But some of the Nattering Nabobs just don't get that: you know, the ones who throw their skirts up over their heads and start screeching about Hitler when Kate Smith sings "God Bless America" (written by that wacist, Irving Berlin, natch)."
Irving Berlin meant for that song to be sung reverently, like a hymn, out his great love for America. Woodie Guthrie, a communist, wrote This Land Is Your Land in response. Socialist-leftist-marxist gotta politicize everything.

Posted by: Milwaukee at October 08, 2016 11:31 AM (06fln)

760 "What Percentage of the GOP Do You Estimate Actually Are Irredeemably Racist Deplorables?"

I have no way of knowing. But I do know that there have been--and I was surprised by--an abundance of deplorable, irredeemably-racist, and occasionally heil-Hitering Nazi posts, tweets, and emails at conservative sites since Trump declared his candidacy. Don't you find this startling? Or do you deny it exists?

Does that mean I should "throw the election to Hillary"? Not that I have the option--mine will not be the deciding vote in my state--but no, it doesn't. But neither does it mean nothing, nor almost nothing.

Posted by: a6z at October 08, 2016 08:12 PM (SMMf+)

761 " ... The map is not the territory. "

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Since Ace is fond of French:

Google "Ceci n'est pas une pipe".

(You'll get a drawing by Rene Magritte, a picture of a man's pipe with a note by the artist underneath it saying "This is not a pipe." Because of course, it's a GRAPHIC REPRESENTATION of a pipe and not the thing itself. Official title: "The Treachery of Images".)

Posted by: El_Gorgo at October 10, 2016 03:16 PM (90N6b)

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