Overnight Open Thread (9-13-2016) [CBD]

Eugenics: the skeleton that rattles loudest in the left's closet is written by a reliable leftist, but an honest one. Yeah, it's old...almost as old as Ace (he is 29), but since introspection is not their greatest attribute, whenever the left decides to wallow in its own shit I am glad to oblige with a link.

Yet what looks kooky or sinister in 2012 struck the prewar British left as solid and sensible. Harold Laski, stellar LSE professor, co-founder of the Left Book Club and one-time chairman of the Labour party, cautioned that: "The time is surely coming...when society will look upon the production of a weakling as a crime against itself." Meanwhile, JBS Haldane, admired scientist and socialist, warned that: "Civilisation stands in real danger from over-production of 'undermen'." That's Untermenschen in German.

Rub it in their faces at every opportunity. And extrapolate to the Nazis for that added zinger!

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This Robotic Tractor Looks Seriously Badass

This futuristic piece of agricultural equipment is drawing crowds at the annual Iowa farm show, and for good reason. Unlike conventional tractors, it has no cabin for a driver. Instead, it utilizes cameras, radar, and GPS, which allows farmers to remotely control and monitor the machine with an app on a tablet computer. The machine can operate day or night and is designed to plant seeds and harvest crops, among other tasks.

I want one. Will it fit in the driveway?

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Video killed the radio star: How games, phones, and other tech innovations are changing the labor force

Is it possible that technology has changed the value of leisure? I think the answer is a definite yes, and let me give you an example of how I am experiencing this firsthand. I have a 12-year-old son at home, and we ration video games for him. He is allowed a couple of hours of video-game time on the weekend, when homework is done. However, if it were up to him, I have no doubt he would play video games 23-and-a-half hours per day. He told me so. If we didn't ration video games, I am not sure he would ever eat. I am positive he wouldn't shower.

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Here is Daniel Greenfield making a f&%k of a lot of sense. Yes, he is a shape-shifter, but read the whole thing anyway. Fighting Caliphate With Chaos

Terrorism does thrive in failed states. But the key point is that it thrives best when it is backed by successful ones. Would the chaos in Syria, Nigeria or Yemen be possible without the wealth and power of Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Iran? Should we really fear unstable Muslim states or stable ones?
That is really the fundamental question that we must answer because it goes to the heart of the moderate Muslim paradox. Is it really the Jihadist who is most dangerous or his mainstream ally?
If we believe that the Saudis and Qataris are our allies and that political Islamists are moderates who can fuse Islam and democracy together, then the stability model makes sense. But when we recognize that there is no such thing as a moderate civilizational Jihad, then we are confronted with the fact that the real threat does not come from failed states or fractured terror groups, but from Islamic unity.
Once we accept that there is a clash of civilizations, chaos becomes a useful civilizational weapon.

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What a nice family!

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Michael Totten is one of my regular reads, especially because he is not a cheerleader for anyone. Weird, huh? A journalist who isn't completely in the bag for someone or something. He also is no fan of Cuba. Cuba's Walled Garden

The United States government no longer bans tourists from visiting Cuba. American commercial flights to Havana resumed this week for the first time in more than a half-century.
Most Cuban people are thrilled. Their isolation from their estranged American neighbors has finally drawn to a close. A certain kind of American tourist is also excited but wants to get down there in a hurry, enough to prompt Natalie Morales to write an op-ed with a rather blunt title: Please Stop Saying You Want to Go to Cuba Before It’s Ruined.
Americans who sport Che Guevara T-shirts can rest assured that Cuba is still as oppressive and backward as ever.
A tiny percentage of Cubans have cell phones now, but text messages that contain words like “democracy,” “protest” and “human rights” are being swallowed up by the state. If you send a text with one of those words or phrases in it, your phone will say the message was sent, but it goes straight into the bit bucket. Your intended recipient will never see it.

The usual suspects in this country are clamoring to visit this socialist paradise just 90 miles to our South, and let us be brutally honest; they don't give a rat's ass about the totalitarian hell-hole that is Cuba, or the plight of the Cuban people under the boot of their psychopathic overlords. They are simply dilettantes who want to brag about sticking their thumbs in the West's eye by breaking the embargo of the worst dictatorship in the Western hemisphere.

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A Belated Happy Birthday! Otis Redding....

Don't forget to visit our dear departed Maetenloch at his new digs. I hear he has shag carpets and a 28.8K modem!

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1 Waldo looks...different.

Posted by: fluffy at September 13, 2016 10:00 PM (eiFlk)

2 Queering Segregation

A K-12 school in Atlanta, Georgia has declared itself to be a "safe space" for "LGBTQ+" students.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=12387

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 13, 2016 10:04 PM (vBeA5)

3 Must be a good discussion below.

Posted by: fluffy at September 13, 2016 10:04 PM (eiFlk)

4 BatTractor!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 13, 2016 10:05 PM (mBYZv)

5 That machine up there is going to take the BattleBots concept to a new level.

Posted by: Meremortal, ride to the sound of the guns. at September 13, 2016 10:06 PM (3myMJ)

6 cough cough cough I'l cough I'll be fin cough cough cough fine

Posted by: # ImwithHEARSE at September 13, 2016 10:07 PM (kHJ3a)

7 Woot woot ONT

Whats not to like, you have shape shifters, guns and Otis Redding. All good stuff

Thanks Dildo Man

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 13, 2016 10:07 PM (voOPb)

8 Had a conversation/beatdown on labor day about Cuba. Some people are so ignorant. This man was older than I and retired. The more I know people the better I like dogs.

Posted by: Infidel at September 13, 2016 10:07 PM (WNhhq)

9 Priorities of the Left:

Close Guantanamo, Open Cuba

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 13, 2016 10:08 PM (mBYZv)

10 It's going to be Korean Thanksgiving soon. Here's a real cute picture of very young kids all dressed up for the holiday.

http://tinyurl.com/zqg8jtn

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 13, 2016 10:09 PM (+/4UG)

11 The more I know people the better I like dogs.
Posted by: Infidel at September 13, 2016 10:07 PM (WNhhq)

Every day.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at September 13, 2016 10:09 PM (5UjJX)

12 Well sheeeeooooot, I was posting at a dead thread...

Hey everybody.

Lately I've been avoiding the most rancorous partisan sites I often visit-- Big Hollywood, Hollywood Elsewhere, OCWeekly, and a few others-- and am finding my blood pressure and conscience is better for it.

I've even been avoiding Facebook and Twitter for the most part. Feels kinda good.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 13, 2016 10:10 PM (OKox0)

13 Eugenics..
I am re-reading Dan Brown's "Inferno" in anticipation of the movie release next month. It's a really good book.. a fast read.. I am not a fan of Tom Hanks as Robert Langdon character.. but oh well..

The book deals with the problem of overpopulation and it reaching some tipping point destroying the entire human race... a nutcase wants to cull the human race..

to me, the premise is silly.. a catastrophic disease would indeed kill a large portion of the human race.. but life always goes on.. interesting nevertheless.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 13, 2016 10:10 PM (UpGcq)

14 "They are simply dilettantes who want to brag about sticking their thumbs
in the West's eye by breaking the embargo of the worst dictatorship in
the Western hemisphere."

Well, actually, some of the people who are clamoring to be able to go to Cuba want to go for reasons having nothing to do with leftist politics or hatred of the West.

They want cheap hookers.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 13, 2016 10:10 PM (noWW6)

15 From the Michael J. Fox site about Parkinson's Dysstonia:

"Many patients report beneficial effects from complimentary therapies such as yoga..."

Ironic, or telling?

Only the Shadow knows.

Posted by: Meremortal, ride to the sound of the guns. at September 13, 2016 10:11 PM (3myMJ)

16 My cat had a stare down with an armadillo tonight. We went out to kill the critter, but pussycat ran him off into the woods towards the neighbor's house.
Pusscat is Badass.

Posted by: ALH at September 13, 2016 10:12 PM (Z56vq)

17 Nice ONT ~~MAet~~ CBD...

the uh tractor....it's a robot....you park it in the backyard and give it an oil bath.

//C-3-POd

Posted by: sven10077 at September 13, 2016 10:12 PM (SzZnW)

18 They can reboot Killdozer with the robo tractor.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 13, 2016 10:12 PM (P/kVC)

19 Holy crap. Did you see this? It is awful.

http://tinyurl.com/hs6w2rr

Jane D'oh, do not click the above link, it might spike your blood pressure

Posted by: chemjeff at September 13, 2016 10:12 PM (5p18q)

20 qdpsteve, keep it up. Works wonders.

Posted by: Infidel at September 13, 2016 10:12 PM (WNhhq)

21 They want cheap hookers.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 13, 2016 10:10 PM (noWW6)

I wonder how much AIDS they have in Cuba?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 13, 2016 10:12 PM (Zu3d9)

22 I have no doubt he would play video games 23-and-a-half hours per day.
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I have no idea what you're insinuating

Posted by: Laharl at September 13, 2016 10:12 PM (3Liv/)

23 They want cheap hookers.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 13, 2016 10:10 PM (noWW6)

So they can get strains of VD not seen on American soil for 2 generations.
Gives the STD clinics a challenge.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 13, 2016 10:13 PM (kKHcp)

24 The more I know people the better I like dogs.
Posted by: Infidel at September 13, 2016 10:07 PM (WNhhq)

Every day.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at September 13, 2016 10:09 PM (5UjJX)

*****

In retirement, I want to deal with my daughter, her husband and (eventual) kids, and my 2 soon to be retrievers. That's it.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, Deplorable and Irredeemable at September 13, 2016 10:13 PM (YLidQ)

25 Pneumonia

Pneumatic

Pneu Madrid

Pneu England

Pneumann!

#Jerry

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 13, 2016 10:13 PM (zu88C)

26 except in bizzaro land the Nazis were considered right wing

Posted by: him at September 13, 2016 10:13 PM (epLyw)

27 qdpsteve, don't bother going to any of the Breitbart sites, it is just an echo chamber now

Posted by: chemjeff at September 13, 2016 10:13 PM (5p18q)

28 They want <s>cheap</s> child hookers.

Posted by: Mr. Mxyzptlk at September 13, 2016 10:14 PM (kHJ3a)

29 "I wonder how much AIDS they have in Cuba?"

That's apparently part of the attraction for connoisseurs of prostitution. Given Comrade Fidel's policy of many years' standing of tossing anyone who had HIV into a corrective labor camp, there is less of the virus around than in a lot of the rest of Latin America and the Caribbean.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 13, 2016 10:14 PM (noWW6)

30 They want cheap hookers.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 13, 2016 10:10 PM (noWW6)

Best bang for the buck.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 13, 2016 10:14 PM (P/kVC)

31 more Guccifer info, donor lists: http://tinyurl.com/jxm3n9v

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 13, 2016 10:14 PM (tvyXw)

32 23 Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 13, 2016 10:13 PM (kKHcp)

Anything that reduces the communist population of America is a good thing.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 13, 2016 10:15 PM (SzZnW)

33 Infidel, yup. Thanks. :-)

And chemjeff, also yup. I realized a few years ago: these sites' *entire business model* is to anger and "rile up" their readers. They're freakin' designed that way.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 13, 2016 10:15 PM (OKox0)

34 the Nazis were considered right wing

Posted by: him at September 13, 2016 10:13 PM (epLyw)

By revisionists terrified by the connection of National Socialism to International Socialism?

Yes.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 13, 2016 10:15 PM (Zu3d9)

35 dang it

Posted by: Mr. Mxyzptlk at September 13, 2016 10:15 PM (kHJ3a)

36 'Lo, 'rons....

Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2016 10:16 PM (EzgxV)

37 24 Posted by: ManWithNoParty, Deplorable and Irredeemable at September 13, 2016 10:13 PM (YLidQ)

I plan to drive for a while when wife retires....but one day a glorious day I will be a hermit that will make Obi-Wan Kenobi look like a member of the rotary club.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 13, 2016 10:16 PM (SzZnW)

38 Of course the left has to favor eugenics.

If your labor is yours and yours alone, it doesn't matter much to society if your labor is inferior due to mental or physical handicaps. It will likely lower the quality of YOUR life, but not your neighbors' unless they voluntarily want to help you.

If, on the other hand, society as a whole "shares" the fruits of everyone's labor, then every inferior producer is making everyone else directly poorer. The only way to address this is to force the inferior producers to do better...or to eliminate them.

In the case of real handicaps there isn't much you can do to force people to produce more so eugenics and camps it is.

And it should be noted that the Germans got their ideas on eugenics from the West - the likes of Sanger and her ilk specifically.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 13, 2016 10:16 PM (E7/zB)

39 I want to see less sites devoted to covering the insanity of the left, and more sites dedicated to finding ways we can all work to defeat it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 13, 2016 10:16 PM (OKox0)

40 Well, no offense intended to CDB it is a fine ONT, but it's Tuesday, and I'm off to see the Woodpile Report. BBL

Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 13, 2016 10:17 PM (kKHcp)

41
And chemjeff, also yup. I realized a few years
ago: these sites' *entire business model* is to anger and "rile up"
their readers. They're freakin' designed that way.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 13, 2016 10:15 PM (OKox0)
It is sadly that way for more than just the Breitbart websites.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 13, 2016 10:17 PM (5p18q)

42 BTW, you too can become an ambassador for as little as $650.000!

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 13, 2016 10:17 PM (tvyXw)

43 >>>Don't forget to visit our dear departed Maetenloch at his new digs.

Maybe departed is right. No new content in almost a month.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 13, 2016 10:17 PM (R+30W)

44 chemjeff, oh yeah.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 13, 2016 10:17 PM (OKox0)

45 Square brackets
Mr mxlpixct

Posted by: McCool at September 13, 2016 10:17 PM (PhpHA)

46 g'evenin, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 13, 2016 10:17 PM (I4wiY)

47 I miss Maet, but after doing so many ONTs for so long I think he needs a break. Maybe a long one.

If still no content in six months? Then I'd be worried, but until then...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 13, 2016 10:18 PM (OKox0)

48 KILLDOZER! Can we get appliqu� armor packs for it? And STANAG ordnance hardpoints?

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at September 13, 2016 10:18 PM (Kucy5)

49 " Leppos must be leashed and muzzled before entering office."

THANK YOU! I finally get to wear my gear in public! And that shit aint cheap either.

Posted by: Peruvian Leppo at September 13, 2016 10:19 PM (CbGSW)

50 Okay, and that QR Code.... CBD, why do you hate us?

Posted by: chemjeff at September 13, 2016 10:19 PM (5p18q)

51 HBO is doing a remake of Westworld, as a series, and they've just released the trailer.

Anthony Hopkins plays the genius in charge of it, a cross between Walt Disney and Dr. Frankenstein, they describe him. "Westworld" is theme park, with androids, in the future, and the park recreates the Wild West. Humans get to pay and go in there and role play.

The Sexbot theme is of course played. We see some cowboy in bed with about 3 babes. We get a glimpse of one of the sexbots turning violent.

I'm just guessing, but the robots believe the lie, sort of. One of the girls realizes her life is not real, and is all part of some grand illusion.

We see Hopkins, dressed in a period outfit, asking her about her dreams.

The series will premiere in Oct.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 13, 2016 10:19 PM (DW+jj)

52 Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 13, 2016 10:14 PM (tvyXw)

Talk about your pay for play!

Posted by: Don Q. at September 13, 2016 10:19 PM (qf6WZ)

53 It is sadly that way for more than just the Breitbart websites.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 13, 2016 10:17 PM (5p18q)

****

Come on, name them. You know you are dying to.....l

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, Deplorable and Irredeemable at September 13, 2016 10:19 PM (YLidQ)

54 No new content in almost a month.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 13, 2016 10:17 PM (R+30W)

Yes....and he gave us an incredible run of great ONTs for many years....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 13, 2016 10:19 PM (Zu3d9)

55 43 Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 13, 2016 10:17 PM (R+30W)

Maet is on holiday in Antarctica at Terror bay.....

Posted by: sven10077 at September 13, 2016 10:19 PM (SzZnW)

56 I am glad Maetenloch is enjoying his vacation from blogging and the pressure to produce content, if that is what it really is. At least I hope so.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 13, 2016 10:19 PM (5p18q)

57 going to have to save up for one of those semi-auto BAR's they make now, so we'll have one of each (at least) here at the FOB

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 13, 2016 10:20 PM (dbgcV)

58 Yes the business model of the entire right is flawed.....

I recall how joyous the democrat sites were in 2001-2007....

Posted by: sven10077 at September 13, 2016 10:21 PM (SzZnW)

59 21
They want cheap hookers.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 13, 2016 10:10 PM (noWW6)

I wonder how much AIDS they have in Cuba?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 13, 2016 10:12 PM (Zu3d9)

IIRC, they immediately stuck HIV+ folks into former leper colonies and banned them from society....so, they might be doing better than "civilized" countries.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2016 10:21 PM (EzgxV)

60 Eugenics is perfectly in line with the Utopianism of the Left.

And their contempt for the individual and celebration of the Collective.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 13, 2016 10:21 PM (mBYZv)

61 Heh.

Per Drudge, Colin Powell discussing how bad Hillary looks and how OLD she is in an email.

Awesome.

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 13, 2016 10:21 PM (zu88C)

62 Well, actually, some of the people who are clamoring to be able to go to Cuba want to go for reasons having nothing to do with leftist politics or hatred of the West.

They want cheap hookers.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 13, 2016 10:10 PM (noWW6)

For years my uncle would fly roundabout from Michigan to Cuba and stay a few months at a time. Even had his own apartment there at one point.

Now he spends half the year in Thailand.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 13, 2016 10:21 PM (heN73)

63 Konbanwa, mina-san!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki, Certified Deplorable at September 13, 2016 10:22 PM (kP16F)

64 57 Posted by: redc1c4 at September 13, 2016 10:20 PM (dbgcV)

You can get modernized BARs with Picatinny....

I think a BAR with a reflex sight is "yes please"

Posted by: sven10077 at September 13, 2016 10:22 PM (SzZnW)

65 OK guys I have my report for the Trump Asheville rally yesterday.

1) Trump supporters are very positive about 12,000 showed up. A huge turnout considering the libs in town.

2) LOTS of young people, they greet each other with "Build the Wall!", I would say that the youth vote is not overall anti-Trump.

3) The police set up the protest area so that you had to walk through the gauntlet of protesters to get into the building. They had the road closed off in front so there was no reason to have them that close other than make it uncomfortable to walk in. This caused a problem down the line. I think there was about 200 to 300 protesters maybe.

4) Trump got repeatedly interrupted by protesters inside, but according to them Trump is the hater. But there was at least one scuffle between a protester and a supporter. There were other protesters on the floor shooting the bird and saying "fuck Trump" occassionally, but they were free to do so. But, you know, Trump is a fascist.

5) The people he pulled out of the audience was a stroke of genius, and they were all pretty authentic, and not deplorable at all. Otherwise, it was pretty standard Trump speech.

6) Apparently there was a problem on the way out because the limited area between the building and the protesters (who were really worked on as people were leaving). The line of people came to stop for about 10 or 15 minutes while, I guess the protesters were pushed back by the police. Even so on the way out we had to go past the gauntlet.

7) I will say this though. The protesters had one look on their face, and that was fear. Yep the look of fear on their face.

Protesters were holding signs like "End Racism" and "Love not Hate", but also yelling "Fuck you bitch" and stuff like that. Real loving that was.

9) Only saw one real Hillary supporter, or at least only one person holding a Hillary sign. Older lady maybe 70 or so.

Posted by: Make American Great Again at September 13, 2016 10:22 PM (BS8yt)

66 34 the Nazis were considered right wing

Posted by: him at September 13, 2016 10:13 PM (epLyw)

By revisionists terrified by the connection of National Socialism to International Socialism?

Yes.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 13, 2016 10:15 PM (Zu3d9)

++++

By the then head of international socialism, Joseph Stalin, who thought that it was quite right that international socialism be run out of Moscow. Anyone who wanted to deviate from that ideal and utilize a socialism headed by their own leaders was branded right-wing.

BTW, does anyone else see the ridiculousness of claiming that the difference between fascism and socialism is nationalism? As if the Soviets or the Red Chinese weren't in any way nationalistic themselves.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 13, 2016 10:22 PM (R+30W)

67 So, I've come to a realization...

I'm unhappy. I spend a majority of my days unhappy.

Not suicidal or depressed...and not in a "Life's tough, get used to it" way either.

Just...not happy.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 10:22 PM (F5hTl)

68 23
They want cheap hookers.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 13, 2016 10:10 PM (noWW6)

So they can get strains of VD not seen on American soil for 2 generations.

Gives the STD clinics a challenge.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 13, 2016 10:13 PM (kKHcp)

On the plus side, they haven't evolved antibiotic resistance....being that they haven't seen antibiotics before....

Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2016 10:22 PM (EzgxV)

69 wait, there's cheap hookers in Cuba?

hmmm.......

Posted by: chemjeff at September 13, 2016 10:22 PM (5p18q)

70 I think a BAR with a reflex sight is "yes please"

Posted by: sven10077 at September 13, 2016 10:22 PM (SzZnW)

Nah....I'll take this instead.

http://tinyurl.com/hvzkx5g

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 13, 2016 10:23 PM (Zu3d9)

71 54 No new content in almost a month.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 13, 2016 10:17 PM (R+30W)

Yes....and he gave us an incredible run of great ONTs for many years....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 13, 2016 10:19 PM (Zu3d9)

++++

True, very true.

But, what has he done lately? I need to be fed more content. Always more.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 13, 2016 10:24 PM (R+30W)

72 67 Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 10:22 PM (F5hTl)

We've all been there, and I am not mocking you.

Pull the plug a month, go walk 4 or five miles a day.

Happiness is a state of mind, and you have to clear the mind to let it in.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 13, 2016 10:24 PM (SzZnW)

73
I want to see less sites devoted to covering the insanity of the left,
and more sites dedicated to finding ways we can all work to defeat it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 13, 2016 10:16 PM (OKox0)

The "Right" doesn't organize and doesn't fight. Only the Left does. By the time that changes it will probably be too late. It is probably too late now.

Posted by: cm9000 at September 13, 2016 10:24 PM (Y/5qL)

74
BTW, does anyone else see the ridiculousness of claiming that the difference between fascism and socialism is nationalism? As if the Soviets or the Red Chinese weren't in any way nationalistic themselves.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 13, 2016 10:22 PM (R+30W)

Yup... in WW2 it was Mother Russia... the Motherland...

Against... the Fatherland...

So it was really just a very violent divorce?

Posted by: Don Q. at September 13, 2016 10:24 PM (qf6WZ)

75 70 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 13, 2016 10:23 PM (Zu3d9)

It's nice, I like the thrust line for recoil better.....BUT the BAR did game work in 3 major wars.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 13, 2016 10:25 PM (SzZnW)

76 Holy crap. Did you see this? It is awful.

http://tinyurl.com/hs6w2rr

Jane D'oh, do not click the above link, it might spike your blood pressure
Posted by: chemjeff at September 13, 2016 10:12 PM (5p18q)

---

Iraq has come to America.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 10:25 PM (rlfds)

77 67 So, I've come to a realization...

I'm unhappy. I spend a majority of my days unhappy.

Not suicidal or depressed...and not in a "Life's tough, get used to it" way either.

Just...not happy.
Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 10:22 PM (F5hTl)

Maybe you should get a check-up. Sometimes non-specific anxiety is tied to an ailment.

You could also go to church. Being around Christians is uplifting.

Posted by: ALH at September 13, 2016 10:26 PM (Z56vq)

78 @72

My fear is....what if I become more unhappy?

I'm a firm believer in the devil you know is better than the devil you don't.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 10:26 PM (F5hTl)

79 I'm sleepy.

ICYMI:

I made a deplorable collection on zazzle
http://preview.tinyurl.com/j9jaoh9

Also, this is a funny taiwan gif of Hillary's collapse
http://preview.tinyurl.com/gs43mp9

and this pinup calendar cracked me up
https://www.facebook.com/eszak.vandor/posts/624489951057078

Posted by: Deplorable @votermom, keeper of lists at September 13, 2016 10:26 PM (Om16U)

80 I hear he has shag carpets and a 28.8K modem!
---------------

*?!*

28.8K

Unpossible.

Posted by: Hayes 300 Baud Smartmodem at September 13, 2016 10:27 PM (ZxmMG)

81 There's no meaningful difference between the commies and the Nazis. It's crazy to argue that the different buttons on the uniforms make any difference in the end results.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 13, 2016 10:27 PM (mBYZv)

82 76 Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 10:25 PM (rlfds)

fundamental transformation baby....

//Bronko Bama

Posted by: sven10077 at September 13, 2016 10:27 PM (SzZnW)

83 wait, there's cheap hookers in Cuba?

hmmm.......
Posted by: chemjeff at September 13, 2016 10:22 PM (5p18q)

***

They have them in missouri too, Perfesser. You need to get out more.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, Deplorable and Irredeemable at September 13, 2016 10:27 PM (YLidQ)

84 65
OK guys I have my report for the Trump Asheville rally yesterday.

1) Trump supporters are very positive about 12,000 showed up. A huge turnout considering the libs in town.

2) LOTS of young people, they greet each other with "Build the
Wall!", I would say that the youth vote is not overall anti-Trump.

3) The police set up the protest area so that you had to walk
through the gauntlet of protesters to get into the building. They had
the road closed off in front so there was no reason to have them that
close other than make it uncomfortable to walk in. This caused a problem
down the line. I think there was about 200 to 300 protesters maybe.

4) Trump got repeatedly interrupted by protesters inside, but
according to them Trump is the hater. But there was at least one scuffle
between a protester and a supporter. There were other protesters on the
floor shooting the bird and saying "fuck Trump" occassionally, but they
were free to do so. But, you know, Trump is a fascist.

5) The people he pulled out of the audience was a stroke of genius,
and they were all pretty authentic, and not deplorable at all.
Otherwise, it was pretty standard Trump speech.

6) Apparently there was a problem on the way out because the limited
area between the building and the protesters (who were really worked on
as people were leaving). The line of people came to stop for about 10
or 15 minutes while, I guess the protesters were pushed back by the
police. Even so on the way out we had to go past the gauntlet.

7) I will say this though. The protesters had one look on their face, and that was fear. Yep the look of fear on their face.

Protesters were holding signs like "End Racism" and "Love not
Hate", but also yelling "Fuck you bitch" and stuff like that. Real
loving that was.

9) Only saw one real Hillary supporter, or at least only one person holding a Hillary sign. Older lady maybe 70 or so.

Posted by: Make American Great Again at September 13, 2016 10:22 PM (BS8yt)

Thanks for the report. Lotta good news in there, lotta mixed news in there -- not a lotta bad news, though.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2016 10:27 PM (EzgxV)

85 Only 6 of the original 23 o-care coop exchanges still exist

Posted by: McCool at September 13, 2016 10:27 PM (PhpHA)

86 @77

Yeah a checkup may not be such a bad idea.

And, I am a God-fearing church goer already but thanks! Lol.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 10:27 PM (F5hTl)

87 I just inquired about the cost of an ad on Ace of Spades HQ for my novel editing business.

Posted by: anonymous-9 at September 13, 2016 10:27 PM (0EvSc)

88 They want cheap hookers.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 13, 2016 10:10 PM (noWW6

Why? Is Epstein's Island closed?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 13, 2016 10:28 PM (voOPb)

89 Hey guys! This started out as a lousy day for me but ended on the moon. I got my final cover art for my book and it is now up and available (in the Kindle version) on Amazon! I don't know how many of y'all frequent the Sunday Morning Book thread but I got a lot of awesome insights and feedback that, IMHO, made this a much better book than it would have been.

Not sure if I can direct link to Amazon here, but if you search for "A Place Outside The Wild" on Amazon, it should pop up as the second result under a Dan Fogelberg album, for some reason.

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at September 13, 2016 10:28 PM (rvzMR)

90 Posted by: sven10077 at September 13, 2016 10:27 PM (SzZnW)

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Still waiting for the VBIEDs.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 10:28 PM (rlfds)

91 Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 10:22 PM (F5hTl)

I will pray for you.

And I recommend you try prayer too.

Posted by: Deplorable @votermom, keeper of lists at September 13, 2016 10:28 PM (Om16U)

92 Only 6 of the original 23 o-care coop exchanges still exist

Posted by: McCool at September 13, 2016 10:27 PM (PhpHA)

They're going to go on the endangered species list and then we'll never be able to get rid of BarkyCare.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 13, 2016 10:28 PM (zc3Db)

93 87 I just inquired about the cost of an ad on Ace of Spades HQ for my novel editing business.
Posted by: anonymous-9 at September 13, 2016 10:27 PM (0EvSc

Let me guess. Kaboom is no longer acceptable barter material?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 13, 2016 10:29 PM (voOPb)

94 There's no meaningful difference between the commies
and the Nazis. It's crazy to argue that the different buttons on the
uniforms make any difference in the end results.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 13, 2016 10:27 PM (mBYZv)

The commies took more land, held it longer, and killed more people than the nazis. Measurable.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 13, 2016 10:29 PM (P/kVC)

95 Oh, a .50 would look real sweet on that tractor.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 10:29 PM (rlfds)

96 Why would anyone want to go to Cuba? Hot humid third world. Sounds like Tijuana or Olongopo City.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 13, 2016 10:29 PM (IqV8l)

97 I'm going to power through this insurrection.

Posted by: Nicolae Ceaușescu at September 13, 2016 10:29 PM (oFSUK)

98 TickledPink, I hope you know that the Horde loves you.

Posted by: ALH at September 13, 2016 10:29 PM (Z56vq)

99 The commies took more land, held it longer, and killed more people than the nazis. Measurable.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 13, 2016 10:29 PM (P/kVC)

But not for lack of trying.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 13, 2016 10:29 PM (zc3Db)

100 @ 45

Thanks McCool

Posted by: Mr. Mxyzptlk at September 13, 2016 10:30 PM (kHJ3a)

101 90 Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 10:28 PM (rlfds)

Already happened.

https://www.stratfor.com/weekly/serial-bomber-phoenix

Posted by: sven10077 at September 13, 2016 10:30 PM (SzZnW)

102 So chaffets got all blustery with an fbi lackey over producing unredacted 302s. Even the lackey knows the fbi will never produce them, and there ain't a damn thing congress can do about it.

Posted by: A Blinkin at September 13, 2016 10:30 PM (dnWSK)

103 Ma Deuce emailed to ask if she was chopped liver.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 13, 2016 10:30 PM (rwI+c)

104 I shannot be commenting on this thread. Do you hear me?! I shannot!

Posted by: andycanuck at September 13, 2016 10:30 PM (LdMbv)

105 and there ain't a damn thing congress ~~can~~ WILL do about it.

Posted by: A Blinkin at September 13, 2016 10:30 PM (dnWSK)

Fixed.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 13, 2016 10:31 PM (zc3Db)

106 Why do we want to kill armadillos?

This is a naiive question. My part of the world has never seen one.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 13, 2016 10:31 PM (mgbwf)

107 I wonder how long it takes to charge that robotractor... Probably all winter for spring planting, then all summer for the harvest? Anyways, I can't imagine much of a market for the contraption unless homosexuals take up agriculture in large numbers!

I denounce myself.

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki, Certified Deplorable at September 13, 2016 10:31 PM (kP16F)

108 So, I've come to a realization...

Posted by: TickledPink
________

First, welcome to the club. There are no membership dues.

Second, you mentioned the majority of your days. What makes the others special?

Posted by: FireHorse at September 13, 2016 10:31 PM (jJ6Ws)

109 Left likes eugenics because they consider people their sheep.

Posted by: Deplorable @votermom, keeper of lists at September 13, 2016 10:31 PM (Om16U)

110 96
Why would anyone want to go to Cuba? Hot humid third world. Sounds like Tijuana or Olongopo City.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.

I'm not a beaches and rum drinks type and I can go to Mexico for the poverty and corruption.

Posted by: Peruvian Leppo at September 13, 2016 10:31 PM (CbGSW)

111 @91

I am a believer and doer of prayer. I pray daily.

But, man I am on an anti-prayer kick lately, as some of the meanest-spirited people I know "pray" for me, then turn around and make me feel like garbage by talking about me behind my back.

Prayers feel hollow to me anymore.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 10:31 PM (F5hTl)

112 Just bought these boots:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NR7EX8S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

To go with my Snake jersey.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 10:32 PM (rlfds)

113 So they can get strains of VD not seen on American soil for 2 generations.

Please clap.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 13, 2016 10:32 PM (mBYZv)

114 After extensive study of all available materials, as well as relevant pron, I have discovered the true reason for Hillary's "stumble" on 9/11, and it's not anything you'd ever imagine.

So, remember that thing that fell out of her pants? That was a vibrator her handlers insert before public appearances to keep the Hillbeast pacified, so she doesn't start biting the heads off random children or something. It has a wireless remote so the level can be adjusted by her wranglers as needed. Vladimir Putin personally hacked the remote, turned it up to 11, and locked out any other signal. By the time Hills got to the van she was already "almost there", and the slight contact to get her on her feet sent her over the top.

Rewatch the video and observe the initial stiffness, followed by shaking legs, a full body spasm, and then complete loss of bodily control. Only then does the vibrator fall out and clang to the ground. They took her to Chelsea's place rather than a hospital because all she needed was to hose off the sploosh and change clothes.

I'm tellin' ya, it's the only explanation the fits all the evidence.

Posted by: gebrauchshund at September 13, 2016 10:32 PM (PlgOo)

115 Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 13, 2016 10:30 PM (rwI+c)

The complete family photo album would require a multi-part post.

Hell, there's no High Power in there!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 13, 2016 10:32 PM (Zu3d9)

116 7) I will say this though. The protesters had one look on their face, and that was fear. Yep the look of fear on their face.

Good.

I hope they drown in their tears in 7 weeks.

Posted by: ALH at September 13, 2016 10:32 PM (Z56vq)

117 hugs, tickledpink

Posted by: Deplorable @votermom, keeper of lists at September 13, 2016 10:32 PM (Om16U)

118 Just...not happy.

Me too. Seems like it's all the same grind.

Posted by: Infidel at September 13, 2016 10:33 PM (WNhhq)

119 111 Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 10:31 PM (F5hTl)

You are surrounded by people misusing religion then.

You need to take an assessment of when you are happy, why you are happy, and grab as much of that as you can.

Remove the sources of unhappiness with the zeal of a devout farmer cleaning his crop.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 13, 2016 10:33 PM (SzZnW)

120 107 I wonder how long it takes to charge that robotractor... Probably all winter for spring planting, then all summer for the harvest? Anyways, I can't imagine much of a market for the contraption unless homosexuals take up agriculture in large numbers!

I denounce myself.

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki, Certified Deplorable at September 13, 2016 10:31 PM (kP16F)

++++

I'm thinking that the exhaust pipe is connected to an internal combustion engine. No charging necessary, just lots of diesel.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 13, 2016 10:33 PM (R+30W)

121 handled a three banded armadillo last week at our zoo. really a harmless animal.

Posted by: free tibet, etc. at September 13, 2016 10:33 PM (CL76w)

122 Eugenics: the skeleton that rattles loudest in the left's closet is written by a reliable leftist, but an honest one. "

It's not in the closet. Remember that part of the hate directed against Palin was due to the fact that she had not aborted her Down syndrome child? I remember one leftist making a particularly vicious remark about Trig being named after a class he would never be able to take.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 13, 2016 10:33 PM (P8951)

123
Also, consider that Trotsky was expelled from the Soviet Union, and eventually assassinated, not because of his politics, which was thoroughly communist, but because he was a personal threat to Stalin. The notion that the Soviet's war with National Socialist Germany indicates a deep philosophical difference is laughable.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 13, 2016 10:34 PM (E7/zB)

124 @108

I meant...most of my day. I worded it wrong.

Thanks for the love and hugs everyone.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 10:34 PM (F5hTl)

125 118 Just...not happy.

Me too. Seems like it's all the same grind.
Posted by: Infidel at September 13, 2016 10:33 PM (WNhhq)

---

Bohemian Rhapsody always cheers me up.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 10:34 PM (rlfds)

126 Browning:

His major firearms designs included:

Single-Shot Rifle:

Winchester 1885

Bolt-Action Rifle:

Winchester 1900

Lever-Action Rifles:

Winchester 1886
Winchester 1892
Winchester 1894
Winchester 1895

Slide-Action Rifles:

Winchester 1890

Recoil-Operated Semi-Automatic Rifles:

Remington Model 8 and 81

Blowback-Operated Semi-Automatic Rifles:

Browning 22 Semi-auto

Double-Barrel Shotgun:

Browning Superposed

Lever-Action Shotgun:

Winchester 1887

Slide-Action Shotguns:

Winchester 1897
Remington Model 17 (later the Ithaca 37)
Stevens 520

Recoil-Operated Semi-Automatic Shotguns:

Browning Auto 5 / Remington Model 11

Blowback-Operated Semi-Automatic Pistols:

FN M1900
Colt 1903/1908 Pocket Hammerless
FN 1906 Vest Pocket/Colt 1908 Vest Pocket
FN 1910
Colt Woodsman .22

Recoil-Operated Semi-Automatic Pistols:

Colt 1902
Colt 1903 Pocket Hammer
U.S. M1911
FN G.P. 35 Hi Power

Gas-Operated Machine Guns:

Colt M1895
U.S. M1918 BAR

Recoil-Operated Machine Guns:

U.S. M1917/M1919
U.S. M2 Heavy Machine Gun

Automatic Machine Cannon:

Colt Browning 37mm

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2016 10:34 PM (J3phO)

127 I have 2 of those 3 firearms and I want the other one. Santa, or Mrs. E, are you listening? Here's your hint---all three are designed by the Blessed Saint John Moses Browning, and the only one not in my safe is the BAR.

Posted by: Eromero at September 13, 2016 10:35 PM (zLDYs)

128 I've heard that armadillos carry rabies and leprosy.

Posted by: ALH at September 13, 2016 10:35 PM (Z56vq)

129 So chaffets got all blustery with an fbi lackey over producing unredacted 302s. Even the lackey knows the fbi will never produce them, and there ain't a damn thing congress can do about it.
***
Oh there are many things Congress can't do. It just won't.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 13, 2016 10:35 PM (E7/zB)

130 Yeah a checkup may not be such a bad idea.

And, I am a God-fearing church goer already but thanks! Lol.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 10:27 PM (F5hTl)

I got a checkup done. Found a couple potential issues.

Can't say I'm happy yet, but it's a start.

And I lol'd about the Christians always being uplifting thing.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 13, 2016 10:35 PM (heN73)

131 Just...not happy.
Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 10:22 PM (F5hTl)

Please hang tough. I've gone through similar periods, despite being happily married and a father to two grown sons.

Life is not predictable, and can be stunningly cruel. But not always. There is hope. Always.

Prayer. Reflection. Look at a nice piece of art. Anything.

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at September 13, 2016 10:35 PM (U31ch)

132 Tickled Pink, I spent a lot of time unhappy and mildly panicky. I decided that I needed more exercise and I started watching crows.

This is what my head is like, I spend a lot of time focusing on bad things. Doesn't matter what, just bad things in general. Things I have done, things I haven't done, things that might happen, you name it.

This was the deal with myself: If you see a crow you get a wish that it will be OK - that it will turn out good some way.

For a while I would see crows and I would do my breathing and relax my back and shoulders and straighten up and relax.
Then a weird thing started happening: Why should I waste a perfectly good wish on making hypothetical bad things be ok, when I could wish on good things that I want?

It is like wishing on a shooting star, the moment you see the crow it has to be the thing that is at the front of your mind. So I started focusing on good things instead, things I wanted to do, things that were positive and I needed to get done.

My mood went up. Things started doing better.

We tell stories to ourselves, and this affects how we see the world. If you look at garbage and ugliness there is not a lot of time for good and happy things. If we have ugly stories in our heads we don't keep a lot of extra room for happy stuff.

I don't believe that crows are good luck really, but I needed a pretext to bump myself out of a funk and I needed something random.

fist bump Tickled Pink.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2016 10:36 PM (lDj6i)

133 I had to laugh when I passed by my local JCPenney store yesterday. Big banner on the store:

"We now sell appliances!!"

That's great JCP, you're Sears now. Great cutting-edge business plan. Here's some more banners I expect to see posted at JCPenney soon:

"We now sell marijuana!"
"We now sell sex toys and pron!!"
"We now sell EVERYTHING in the store 'cuz we're going outta business soon!!"

Behold the great new American economy.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 13, 2016 10:36 PM (OKox0)

134 Who is @GreaterInMe on gab?

Posted by: Deplorable @votermom, keeper of lists at September 13, 2016 10:36 PM (Om16U)

135 No, not a vibrator. It was an electrical continence-maintenance device. It goes up her vagina and delivers controlled electrical current to maintain urinary and anal sphincter tension.

It malfunctioned and delivered way too much current, causing her to spaz out and expel it forcefully from her vagina.

The then shit and pissed all over herself as they were throwing her in the van.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 13, 2016 10:36 PM (DW+jj)

136 121
handled a three banded armadillo last week at our zoo. really a harmless animal.

Posted by: free tibet, etc.

One night I shot (with a .22) an armadillo digging up my grannies garden. It jumped 3 feet in the air and squeed (as in, the noise it made was SQUEEEEEEEE!).

Posted by: Peruvian Leppo at September 13, 2016 10:37 PM (CbGSW)

137 There's no meaningful difference between the commies and the Nazis
***
Generally National Socialists have been more pragmatic then the International Socialists - but I agree that the society that each wanted doesn't in practice seem all that different.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 13, 2016 10:38 PM (E7/zB)

138 >>It's not in the closet. Remember that part of the hate directed against
Palin was due to the fact that she had not aborted her Down syndrome
child?

And Bristol. too. Oh, how they still mock her.
Think she was the first politician's daughter to get pregnant at an inconvenient time? Supporting Planned Parenthood means never having to worry about your campaign punished with a baby scandal.

Posted by: Lizzy, deplorable in search of a basket at September 13, 2016 10:38 PM (NOIQH)

139 handled a three banded armadillo last week at our zoo. really a harmless animal.
Posted by: free tibet
-------------

At the Vet's a week or so ago, there was a girl with a small box. I said to he r"Surely there's not a pet in there". Yup. I was expecting maybe a hamster. It was a hedgehog. First one I've ever seen. Felt sorry for the little critter, as it was sick.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2016 10:38 PM (J3phO)

140 66
BTW, does anyone else see the ridiculousness of claiming that the difference between fascism and socialism is nationalism? As if the Soviets or the Red Chinese weren't in any way nationalistic themselves.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 13, 2016 10:22 PM (R+30W)

That the Soviets called WWII "The Great Patriotic War" was just happenstance.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 13, 2016 10:38 PM (sdi6R)

141 140 66
BTW, does anyone else see the ridiculousness of claiming that the difference between fascism and socialism is nationalism? As if the Soviets or the Red Chinese weren't in any way nationalistic themselves.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 13, 2016 10:22 PM (R+30W)

That the Soviets called WWII "The Great Patriotic War" was just happenstance.
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 13, 2016 10:38 PM (sdi6R)

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lol

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 10:39 PM (rlfds)

142
I wonder how long it takes to charge that robotractor...

It's not electric.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 13, 2016 10:39 PM (IqV8l)

143
Armadillos are possums on the half shell.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 13, 2016 10:39 PM (JmjOe)

144 supposedly only the nine banded armadillo carries leprosy

Posted by: free tibet, etc. at September 13, 2016 10:39 PM (CL76w)

145 @119

The thing is....I know what makes me happy. Spending time with my baby nephew. Baking. Reading. Being on Ace of Spades.

But, I also need to make money and be a productive member of society too. So...it's rough.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 10:39 PM (F5hTl)

146

Those robot tractors would be great for those big California growers, if only they could get water, and if any of them are left.

Posted by: Khat Man Lu at September 13, 2016 10:39 PM (H9Agi)

147 Look! The WaPo and Politico want you to know that something is up with Donald Trump and the moneys he supposedly donated to charity.

He's so crooked! They want him investigated.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at September 13, 2016 10:40 PM (U6f54)

148 The worst part is that it's not just abortion - the Netherlands has the Groningen Protocol, where doctors can decide to off a newborn with defects without consulting the parents. Post-natal abortion. Nice.

Posted by: Lizzy, deplorable in search of a basket at September 13, 2016 10:41 PM (NOIQH)

149
Remove the sources of unhappiness with the zeal of a devout farmer cleaning his crop.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 13, 2016 10:33 PM (SzZnW

Thou shalt not kill

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 13, 2016 10:41 PM (voOPb)

150 112
Just bought these boots:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NR7EX8S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8psc=1

To go with my Snake jersey.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 10:32 PM (rlfds)

Already have yourhttps://www.amazon.com/Oakland-Raiders-Bandana-Mens-Womens/dp/B00MMPPASI/ref=pd_sim_sbs_193_1?ie=UTF8psc=1refRID=XNE1VPWPMKTT3XG0MY0F

?

Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2016 10:41 PM (EzgxV)

151 supposedly only the nine banded armadillo carries leprosy

Posted by: free tibet, etc. at September 13, 2016 10:39 PM (CL76w)

I recall that the first successful growth medium for the leprosy mycobacteria was the tissue from the footpads of armadillos.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 13, 2016 10:42 PM (Zu3d9)

152 Remove the sources of unhappiness with the zeal of a devout farmer cleaning his crop.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 13, 2016 10:33 PM (SzZnW

Thou shalt not kill

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
****

Correct translation is thou shalt not murder.

Posted by: Tilikum Irredeemable Killer Assault Whale at September 13, 2016 10:42 PM (hVdx9)

153
121
handled a three banded armadillo last week at our zoo. really a harmless animal.

Posted by: free tibet, etc. at September 13, 2016 10:33 PM (CL76w)

*tests positive for leprosy in three weeks*

Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2016 10:42 PM (EzgxV)

154 You know, Hillary's sickness is actually just what the doctor ordered for her campaign. Remember, the less she is seen, the better she does. So she gets off the trail, and while recuperating, has the opportunity to study and prepare for the debate with Trump, a debate in which she'll be declared "winner" no matter what happens.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 13, 2016 10:43 PM (8HGb7)

155 tickledpink, an attitude of gratitude and a sin-covering eye maybe can help during the working to earn money times.

(unless you're a meth dealer?)

Posted by: Deplorable @votermom, keeper of lists at September 13, 2016 10:43 PM (Om16U)

156 147 Look! The WaPo and Politico want you to know that something is up with Donald Trump and the moneys he supposedly donated to charity.

He's so crooked! They want him investigated.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at September 13, 2016 10:40 PM (U6f54)

Where's their story on the Clinton Foundation?

Oh right, I forgot.

Posted by: ALH at September 13, 2016 10:43 PM (Z56vq)

157 The worst part is that it's not just abortion - the Netherlands has the Groningen Protocol, where doctors can decide to off a newborn with defects without consulting the parents. Post-natal abortion. Nice.
***
We are repeating the history of the 30s. The Germans started off focusing on the disabled through "euthanasia" as well...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktion_T4

Posted by: 18-1 at September 13, 2016 10:44 PM (E7/zB)

158 Still waiting for the VBIEDs.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 10:28 PM (rlfds)

I don't have my driver's license yet.

Posted by: Clock Boy at September 13, 2016 10:44 PM (GUBah)

159 Per Drudge, Colin Powell discussing how bad Hillary looks and how OLD she is in an email.

Awesome.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 13, 2016 10:21 PM (zu88C)

Also discussing how much the Clintons hate Obama. But of course, two gangsters will temporarily become allies if it suits them.

Perhaps the Clintons and Obamas will have to share a room in hell and be in each other's company for all eternity. That would probably be a worse punishment than flames and pitchforks.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 13, 2016 10:44 PM (P8951)

160 Cheerful song for ya, Pink,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho7796-au8U

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 10:44 PM (rlfds)

161 Oh right, I forgot.
That's what I said!

Posted by: hilllary at September 13, 2016 10:45 PM (LdMbv)

162 Armadillos are possums on the half shell.
Posted by: fixerupper at September 13, 2016 10:39 PM (JmjOe)

****

I laughed like hell at that, still not sure why.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, Deplorable and Irredeemable at September 13, 2016 10:46 PM (YLidQ)

163 I upgraded to 16 GB of RAM today.

Aw yiss, I'm replete with Chrome tabs.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 13, 2016 10:46 PM (VdICR)

164 I've had that bandana cooth.

Heh.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 10:46 PM (rlfds)

165 I remember when John McCain suspended his campaign, I was like WTH?

I imagine there are some Libs who feel just like that right now.

It's no fun watching your dreams of glory swirling around the bowl.

Posted by: ALH at September 13, 2016 10:46 PM (Z56vq)

166 149 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 13, 2016 10:41 PM (voOPb)

You know one of the best parts of Fallout New Vegas was this speech.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34A-ODy9u1Y

By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we
remembered Zion. Remember, O Lord, The Children of Edom in the day of
Jerusalem who said, "Raze it, raze it, even to the foundation." O
daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed. How happy shall he be,
that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. Happy shall he be, that
taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 13, 2016 10:46 PM (SzZnW)

167 Perhaps the Clintons and Obamas will have to share a room in hell and be in each other's company for all eternity.

Er...ah...I'll put flaming mints under the pillows every night before bedtime!

Posted by: Zombie Uncle Ted Kennedy at September 13, 2016 10:47 PM (Tyii7)

168 Do people shit their pants when they have a seizure? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Tim Kaine at September 13, 2016 10:47 PM (xo2GX)

169 Just curious, and I'm pretty sure someone here knows the answer:
which tastes better, possum or raccoon?

Posted by: Peruvian Leppo at September 13, 2016 10:47 PM (CbGSW)

170 You know, Hillary's sickness is actually just what the doctor ordered for her campaign. Remember, the less she is seen, the better she does. So she gets off the trail, and while recuperating, has the opportunity to study and prepare for the debate with Trump, a debate in which she'll be declared "winner" no matter what happens.

Posted by: JoeF
***

I can see NBC now.

What a bloodbath. Hillary totally crushed Trump.
The fact that Trump cut off Hillary's head only shows why she is so superior to him and will make an incredible president. Trump is soooo last century and that is not how modern society works.
Trump never knew what hit him. Winner of the debate: Hillary.

Posted by: Tilikum Irredeemable Killer Assault Whale at September 13, 2016 10:47 PM (hVdx9)

171 152 Posted by: Tilikum Irredeemable Killer Assault Whale at September 13, 2016 10:42 PM (hVdx9)

Indeed....

Posted by: sven10077 at September 13, 2016 10:48 PM (SzZnW)

172

You forgot the Browning 1919...

Posted by: I Vino Veritits at September 13, 2016 10:48 PM (WVCC6)

173 tickledpink, an attitude of gratitude and a sin-covering eye maybe can help during the working to earn money times.

---

Or an eye patch.

http://tinyurl.com/j5fuch9

h/t to cooth

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 10:49 PM (rlfds)

174 Just bought these boots:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NR7EX8S

To go with my Snake jersey.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 10:32 PM (rlfds)

Sounds like an outfit you should wear to the CenTexMoMee.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 13, 2016 10:49 PM (heN73)

175
What happens to Trump if the democrats panic and replace Hillary with someone else?

Can you imagine our next president as Chuck Schummer or John Kerry, or some little known democrat party loyalist?

Posted by: Khat Man Lu at September 13, 2016 10:49 PM (H9Agi)

176 Well... If that robotic tractor isn't electric, it's not much of a robot, is it? Are we certain that "exhaust pipe" isn't a smoke launcher, or some sort of aerial or sensor?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki, Certified Deplorable at September 13, 2016 10:49 PM (kP16F)

177 Already have yourhttps://www.amazon.com/Oakland-Raiders-Bandana-Mens-Womens/dp/B00MMPPASI /ref=pd_sim_sbs_193_1?ie=UTF8psc=1refRID=XNE1VPWPMKTT3XG0MY0F

?

Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2016 10:41 PM (EzgxV)

The part that ends in B00MMPPASI is enough to get to the page. The rest of it... I think you've been digitally tattooed.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 13, 2016 10:50 PM (R+30W)

178 Sounds like an outfit you should wear to the CenTexMoMee.
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 13, 2016 10:49 PM (heN73)

---

Duh.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 10:50 PM (rlfds)

179 Armadillos can carry a leppo? Wow, those are like some big armadillos, man.

**takes another bong hit**

Posted by: Gary Johnson at September 13, 2016 10:50 PM (H9MG5)

180 The thing is....I know what makes me happy. Spending time with my baby nephew. Baking. Reading. Being on Ace of Spades.

But, I also need to make money and be a productive member of society too. So...it's rough.
Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 10:39 PM (F5hTl)

We all do. I'm not happy with my job either and would retire tomorrow if I could. But I can't and the lottery probably won't come through for me. So - I either have to look for another job or resign myself to being in harness for a while yet.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 13, 2016 10:50 PM (P8951)

181 Just curious, and I'm pretty sure someone here knows the answer:
which tastes better, possum or raccoon?

Posted by: Peruvian Leppo at September 13, 2016 10:47 PM (CbGSW)

I heard raccoon isn't bad as it has a broad diet. Possum just eat armadillo shit.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 13, 2016 10:51 PM (P/kVC)

182

The first Raider units of WWII were equipped with Browning A5's with 20" barrel with horizontal duck bill shot spreaders, extended mags.

Posted by: I Vino Veritits at September 13, 2016 10:51 PM (WVCC6)

183 Can you imagine our next president as Chuck Schummer or John Kerry, or some little known democrat party loyalist?
=====

Posted by: Evan McMuffin at September 13, 2016 10:51 PM (LdMbv)

184 Great Patriotic War film opening Nov 24, nowhere near your mulitplex.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXTFeG6ques

(turn on the CC for subtitles)

Not so sure about the SVTs and is that Boys' Anti-Tank rifle?

Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2016 10:51 PM (lDj6i)

185 169 Just curious, and I'm pretty sure someone here knows the answer:
which tastes better, possum or raccoon?

Posted by: Peruvian Leppo at September 13, 2016 10:47 PM (CbGSW)

Stock up on barbeque sauce.

Posted by: vero possumus at September 13, 2016 10:51 PM (/GIfd)

186 175
What happens to Trump if the democrats panic and replace Hillary with someone else?

That won't happen. The FAB will not go gently into the night.

Posted by: ALH at September 13, 2016 10:52 PM (Z56vq)

187 Mmm. Armadillo shit.

Posted by: Homer Possum at September 13, 2016 10:52 PM (LdMbv)

188 Just...not happy.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 10:22 PM (F5hTl)

I saddle up the bike and go away for 3-4 days. Usually head to the southern Rockies (Red River/Taos area); by the time I'm 100 miles down the road, I feel the knots in my rope start to loosen.

There's a lot to be said for just getting away from everything for a short time.

Posted by: Sixkiller...TEXIT at September 13, 2016 10:52 PM (y0er3)

189 181 Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 13, 2016 10:51 PM (P/kVC)

Anyone tries to eat my ass meets Cousin Rocket's arsenal....

//Sven

On a serious note, a well-marinated possum slow cooked is not the most inedible thing.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 13, 2016 10:52 PM (SzZnW)

190 41
And chemjeff, also yup. I realized a few years
ago: these sites' *entire business model* is to anger and "rile up"
their readers. They're freakin' designed that way.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 13, 2016 10:15 PM (OKox0)

It is sadly that way for more than just the Breitbart websites.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 13, 2016 10:17 PM (5p18q)

The Breitbart sites have gone far downhill since Andrew passed. Everyone worth a damn has left for one reason or another in the last 4 years. The only one there that's any good is Milo, and he's not for everybody.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 13, 2016 10:52 PM (ASSjT)

191 Also, when I think of the struggles people like Insomniac have had just finding work in the Obama era, I feel grateful for my own job. Two people in my department were laid off last month.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 13, 2016 10:52 PM (P8951)

192 That's a nice tractor. My neighbor is does contract farming. He uses the tractors that belong to the guys he works for and they are all very nice with the GPS and all. He just turns them at the end of the field and they could probably be programmed for that. What they don't do is clean out all the weeds and stalks and small animals and other miscellany that hang up in the plow. You have to stop the tractor and clear that shit out by crawling under the plow and doing it yourself. They need to invent a plow cleaning robot to ride on the tractor.

Posted by: huerfano at September 13, 2016 10:53 PM (jkkMG)

193 IMHO, Hillary suffers from catatonic seizures.

Jonah Goldberg wrote a best-selling book called "Liberal Fascism." Read it if you haven't already.

Posted by: Deplorable Grampa Jimbo at September 13, 2016 10:53 PM (4+VII)

194 I'm not a beaches and rum drinks type and I can go to Mexico for the poverty and corruption.
---
i live in Lost Angels: we've got ALL of that here...

i don't have to travel at all: Suck It, TSA!

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 13, 2016 10:54 PM (dbgcV)

195 184 Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2016 10:51 PM (lDj6i)

SVTs were a special issue weapon.

The anti-tank gun was a PTRD-41.

Sven<---enemy at the gate

Posted by: sven10077 at September 13, 2016 10:54 PM (SzZnW)

196 Why does a robot have to be electric? There is no battery powered device capable of powering a tractor. The energy requirements are just too high. It's a regular farm tractor, powered by a diesel engine I'm sure, that has a robotic control system, rather than a human operator.

Drones are robotic airplanes. They are not powered by a battery.

Hydrocarbon burning engines are still about the only thing that can provide the power and range needed for applications like this.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 13, 2016 10:54 PM (DW+jj)

197 We see Hopkins, dressed in a period outfit, asking her about her dreams.

The series will premiere in Oct.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 13, 2016 10:19 PM (DW+

Anthony Hopkins is nude with menstrual blood rubbed all over him.

I'll pass on that show.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 13, 2016 10:54 PM (B9Zoe)

198 about the possum vs. raccoon: what sort of marinade?

Posted by: Peruvian Leppo at September 13, 2016 10:54 PM (CbGSW)

199 Posted by: huerfano at September 13, 2016 10:53 PM (jkkMG)

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Nicer with this on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2vILeTODiE

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 10:54 PM (rlfds)

200 190 Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 13, 2016 10:52 PM (ASSjT)

Plenty of moles in that series of sites.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 13, 2016 10:55 PM (SzZnW)

201 There's a lot to be said for just getting away from everything for a short time.
Posted by: Sixkiller...TEXIT at September 13, 2016 10:52 PM (y0er3)

Just going for a walk in the woods or sitting on the beach helps me. The political world is crazy, the country is in bad shape, but nature is a constant. That's somehow a comfort to me.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 13, 2016 10:55 PM (P8951)

202 We go to Tybee whenever we can.

It's only 4 hours from here.

Posted by: ALH at September 13, 2016 10:55 PM (Z56vq)

203 198 Posted by: Peruvian Leppo at September 13, 2016 10:54 PM (CbGSW)

Garlic and herb 3 parts, one part steak sauce.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 13, 2016 10:55 PM (SzZnW)

204 177
Already have
yourhttps://www.amazon.com/Oakland-Raiders-Bandana-Mens-Womens/dp/B00MMPPASI
/ref=pd_sim_sbs_193_1?ie=UTF8psc=1refRID=XNE1VPWPMKTT3XG0MY0F

?

Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2016 10:41 PM (EzgxV)

The part that ends in B00MMPPASI is enough to get to the page. The rest of it... I think you've been digitally tattooed.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 13, 2016 10:50 PM (R+30W)

Yep. I looked for a way to get a short link, but Amazon didn't supply. This computer is more-or-less sacrificial, so I didn't fight it too much.....but I know it's out there.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2016 10:56 PM (EzgxV)

205 The anti-tank gun was a PTRD-41.

Sven<---enemy at the gate
Posted by: sven10077 at September 13, 2016 10:54 PM (SzZnW)

Spasebo

Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2016 10:56 PM (lDj6i)

206 'They need to invent a plow cleaning robot to ride on the tractor.'

Already exists. His name is Manuel Jesus Valdez and he cleans out ag machinery for $1/hr. Ask for him at the last row on the left, Home Depot.

Posted by: I Vino Veritits at September 13, 2016 10:56 PM (WVCC6)

207
You forgot the Browning 1919...
Posted by: I Vino Veritits
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No, I didn't.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2016 10:57 PM (J3phO)

208 205 Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2016 10:56 PM (lDj6i)

Het Nota

Posted by: sven10077 at September 13, 2016 10:58 PM (SzZnW)

209 Colin Powell wrote "Everything HRC touches, she kind of screws up with hubris."

Ha! Yeah, let's elect her president.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 13, 2016 10:58 PM (P8951)

210 I will say this: I haven't "grown out" of baseball, but I've mostly grown out of video games. I play maybe 30 mins a day when I do play? And I'll go entire weeks without playing. And I was the type of kid who went right from the bus to in front of the TV, playing until my folks forced me into bed.

I'm not saying it's a childish hobby or that you can't be an adult gamer. Just that, for me, it doesn't hit my sweet spot as much anymore.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 10:58 PM (kumBu)

211 I have been saying this for over 20 years now.... OPEC is the biggest terrorist organization on the planet! And anyone who thinks any member state of that organization is our friend or ally is batshit insane.

Posted by: madamemayhem at September 13, 2016 10:59 PM (WPm3x)

212 A good first step toward happiness is to stop reading newspapers and watching network news. They are intended to depress you.

Drudge, Insty, Ace. All you really need.

Posted by: davidt at September 13, 2016 10:59 PM (xo2GX)

213 The complete family photo album would require a multi-part post.

Hell, there's no High Power in there!
---
i can provide pics of a Browning Double Auto, a Superposed 12/20 combo, A-5s, 1911s, High Powers, the 22 rifle, and, i'm sure, a few others that i'm forgoting, including several purchases still in progress.

Long Live the Gun Thread!

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 13, 2016 11:00 PM (dbgcV)

214

Sorry Mike, mea culpa, TL;DR.

Stick a glass up to your USB, I've a shot of Hibiki 17 for you...

Posted by: I Vino Veritits at September 13, 2016 11:00 PM (WVCC6)

215 You're going to be hearing about Pepe the frog soon. Gird your loins. Hillary Clinton is literally attacking an old 4chan meme trying to say it's racist alt-right shit. The Internet is laughing its ass off at her stupidity.

Bad week for Hillary. She's a laughing stock with millennials.

Sucks when your campaign is done in by a green internet frog meme. Rofl!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 13, 2016 11:00 PM (pUDQf)

216 @196, publius

Those drones have remote human operators!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki, Certified Deplorable at September 13, 2016 11:00 PM (kP16F)

217 ZK cert dep. @ 176- electric tractor?
Nope. That is a Case I.H. diesel tractor without an operators cab. They are working in agriculture all over the world right now.

Posted by: Eromero at September 13, 2016 11:00 PM (zLDYs)

218 They were working on auto-steering for combines and similar as far back as the '80s, I remember. I remember reading about auto-steering designs in various farm machinery magazines, and even saw them demonstrated at the big Ag Expo down in Moultrie, GA.

It was fairly easy to do it with row crop headers, like corn heads. Feedback system with little feelers. Of course, you had to turn it at the ends and make any major corrections.

And I remember reading about these autonomous tractor plans back in the '90s.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 13, 2016 11:01 PM (DW+jj)

219 Stick a glass up to your USB, I've a shot of Hibiki 17 for you...
Posted by: I Vino Veritits
----------------
Raises glass.
*sips*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2016 11:01 PM (J3phO)

220 "Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 13, 2016 11:00 PM (pUDQf) "

What about dat boi? Why does Pepe get all the attention? #frogmemelivesmatter

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:01 PM (kumBu)

221 I went and peeked at Stevens 520 prices.

No bargains to be had there.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2016 11:03 PM (J3phO)

222 198 about the possum vs. raccoon: what sort of marinade?

Posted by: Peruvian Leppo at September 13, 2016 10:54 PM (CbGSW)

Vinegar and sugar.

Rub possum with salt and black pepper. place into roasting pan. insert bay leaves into body cavity. place quartered onions and taters around the possum. baste with a mixture on vinegar, ketchup and brown sugar. Roast at 375 degrees for about an hour.

remove possum from roasting pan and throw into garbage. eat taters and onions with corn bread and bourbon.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at September 13, 2016 11:03 PM (/GIfd)

223 There's a lot to be said for just getting away from everything for a short time.
Posted by: Sixkiller...TEXIT at September 13, 2016 10:52 PM (y0er3)

Just going for a walk in the woods or sitting on the beach helps me. The political world is crazy, the country is in bad shape, but nature is a constant. That's somehow a comfort to me.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 13, 2016 10:55 PM (P8951)

I work at a dead end job that I need to be at 6 days a week just to pay the bills and barely survive.

Last couple days off though I've said screw it, gone out of town for the day and road tripped. Kinda went to the same area both times, but really like it out there. Plus it's fun driving on 2 lane roads with 75 MPH speed limits.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 13, 2016 11:03 PM (heN73)

224 Cannot believe 4chan can apparently troll presidential campaigns. I mean, I know the MSM is utterly gullible, but doesn't HRC have people younger than 30 on her campaign?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 13, 2016 11:04 PM (pUDQf)

225
I'm gonna power through this tunnel.

Posted by: Wile E. Coyote at September 13, 2016 11:04 PM (J3phO)

226 Here's the thing about money.

Will it really matter if medical bills stack up from stress? Or God forbid something catastrophic happen.

What good is money if getting the money causes physical or mental illness, for which you have to spend money to fix?

Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 11:04 PM (F5hTl)

227 I've got this poster on the wall of my shop...

Guns of John Moses Browning

http://tinyurl.com/ju76ay2

Posted by: freaked at September 13, 2016 11:04 PM (BO/km)

228 I'm just waiting for Hillary's ads to run on Albino Black Sheep, Newgrounds and Ebaum's World. She's got this meme shit down pat.

Maybe a few YTMND ads, also?

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:04 PM (kumBu)

229 Those drones are controlled by human operators, but they have robotic control systems. If there's loss of signal, they are programmed to do some automatic base return, and stuff like that.

You are conflating the power system with the control system. A "robot" is something that can make complex operations without human control. It doesn't matter what the power system is.

YOu could have a steam powered robot locomotive, for instance.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 13, 2016 11:05 PM (DW+jj)

230 "10 It's going to be Korean Thanksgiving soon. Here's a real cute picture of very young kids all dressed up for the holiday

Those kids would be a great prop for me to show my love of children. Plus dark skin so a two-fer.

Come here kiddies for a hug! (Cough)

Posted by: Hillary! at September 13, 2016 11:05 PM (NbRJx)

231 remove possum from roasting pan and throw into garbage. eat taters and onions with corn bread and bourbon.
Posted by: Cicero
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Ah. So, similar to carp recipe.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2016 11:06 PM (J3phO)

232 "I mean, I know the MSM is utterly gullible, but doesn't HRC have people younger than 30 on her campaign?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 13, 2016 11:04 PM (pUDQf) "

Only to be used as meatsacks/blood bags, ala Fury Road or Killer Klowns from Outer Space.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:06 PM (kumBu)

233 Last night on the ONT there was some discussion about Jeopardy. Twenty years ago I was on the show and somebody I don't know recently tracked me down and sent me a link to my episode. Here it is:

http://tinyurl.com/zo5g3sd

Posted by: biancaneve at September 13, 2016 11:06 PM (6p7LQ)

234 What. The. Ever. Loving. Fuck.

Venezuelan President Tells His Starving People: "My diet gets you hard. You don't need Viagra."

Breitbart.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 11:06 PM (rlfds)

235 Drudge, Insty, Ace. All you really need.

Posted by: davidt at September 13, 2016 10:59 PM (xo2GX)

Even Drudge and Ace are depressing almost daily with all the stupidity going on that they bring forth.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 13, 2016 11:07 PM (heN73)

236 publius: Expos from the 80's?

Gary Carter. Tim Raines. Andre Dawson. Tim Wallach. So much potential...

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:07 PM (kumBu)

237 228 I'm just waiting for Hillary's ads to run on Albino Black Sheep, Newgrounds and Ebaum's World. She's got this meme shit down pat.

Maybe a few YTMND ads, also?

Lol. Trump will owe his Presidency to 4chan, Pepe, Weekend at Bernies and Hillary's inability to stand upright.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 13, 2016 11:07 PM (pUDQf)

238 Oh and when, when, when will we get an ONT that is dedicated to Dr. Demento?

Posted by: madamemayhem at September 13, 2016 11:07 PM (WPm3x)

239 230 "10 It's going to be Korean Thanksgiving soon. Here's a real cute picture of very young kids all dressed up for the holiday

Those kids would be a great [spr/s]soup for me to show my love of children. Plus dark skin so a two-fer.

Come here kiddies for a hug! (Cough)

Posted by: Hillary! at September 13, 2016 11:05 PM (NbRJx)

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at September 13, 2016 11:07 PM (/GIfd)

240 232 "I mean, I know the MSM is utterly gullible, but doesn't HRC have people younger than 30 on her campaign?

---

A susbstantial number of them are under 35.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 11:07 PM (rlfds)

241
YOu could have a steam powered robot locomotive, for instance.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)

Sounds like something from the mind of Dr. Miguelito Loveless.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 13, 2016 11:09 PM (IqV8l)

242 'Oh and when, when, when will we get an ONT that is dedicated to Dr. Demento?'

#twoweeks

Posted by: fishheads at September 13, 2016 11:09 PM (BO/km)

243 "A Belated Happy Birthday! Otis Redding"

And a VERY belated "Oh hey, sorry about your death!" as well.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 13, 2016 11:09 PM (Pz4pT)

244 "Posted by: biancaneve at September 13, 2016 11:06 PM (6p7LQ) "

Next J! test will be my 5th one - I've made it to two auditions. I know that it's not at all uncommon to go 10 or 15 auditions before they finally put you on. Awesome that you got on, though. It's a lifelong dream of mine.

Just did the Sports Jeopardy test last week and probably missed the cut-off - I got 20 of 30, and the assumed cut-off is 21 or 22.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:09 PM (kumBu)

245
The part that ends in B00MMPPASI is enough to get to the page. The rest of it... I think you've been digitally tattooed.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 13, 2016 10:50 PM (R+30W)

Yep. I looked for a way to get a short link, but Amazon didn't supply. This computer is more-or-less sacrificial, so I didn't fight it too much.....but I know it's out there.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2016 10:56 PM (EzgxV)

++++

There is a way.
Amazon.com has quietly created its own URL shortener for products sold
on its sites. People can now type "amzn.com/" and a product number to
create a short URL, without the need for sites like tinyurl.com and
bit.ly.

http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/blog/
techflash/2009/05/Amazon_creates_own
_URL_shortener_44601202.html

So:
https://amzn.com/B00MMPPASI

I've seen it said elsewhere that there is supposed to be a share button on amazon's product pages like the one at youtube that will just give you the short link, but I don't see it. Might be I have it blocked, or maybe it only appears if you sign in.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 13, 2016 11:09 PM (R+30W)

246 A guy on Twitter, Matt Forney, is ripping the crap out of the Dems going through their leaked emails:

https://twitter.com/basedmattforney/status/775829610957246464

I can't get a direct link to it but the Dems' hacked accounts included the credit card numbers of ALL of their donors.

If you go to the guy's Twitter account 'home page', you can read through all the stuff he's finding. I don't have the time now but I've bookmarked it for later reading.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 13, 2016 11:10 PM (LdMbv)

247 Here's the definition of robot: a machine capable of carrying out a complex series of actions automatically, especially one programmable by computer.

"Autonomous machine" is a short form of that. It has nothing to do with the power source.

The tractor above is a diesel farm tractor with a computer driving it instead of a human. It's a robot by definition.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 13, 2016 11:10 PM (DW+jj)

248 When I heard that Hillary died, I laughed.

Not because I thought it was ture, but that her health issue is taking up room in the MSM's collective heads.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 11:10 PM (rlfds)

249 What good is money if getting the money causes physical or mental illness, for which you have to spend money to fix?

Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 11:04 PM (F5hTl)

That's kinda my thinking.

I despise the corporate world with every fiber of my being. Sitting at a desk 50-60 hours a week being a cog in a system that will toss you at the first opportunity? No thanks.

But do what then? At my age, have yet to figure it out. The things I'd love to do require money I don't have.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 13, 2016 11:10 PM (heN73)

250 "Lol. Trump will owe his Presidency to 4chan, Pepe, Weekend at Bernies and Hillary's inability to stand upright.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 13, 2016 11:07 PM (pUDQf) "

Just keep 4chan away from the nuclear football and we should be fine. And if they suggest anything about age of consent laws, for the love of God, it's a trap.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:11 PM (kumBu)

251 Wasn't Randy Johnson on the Expos in the 80's?

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at September 13, 2016 11:11 PM (rvzMR)

252 More on Hillary's stupid campaign - not only is it running against a batrachian cartoon rather than against, um, the actual Republican candidate; but it retweeted "Jared Taylor Swift" - a *parody* of the alt-right - as a "prominent white supremacist".

When Hillary loses, the lulz will be epic.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 13, 2016 11:11 PM (6FqZa)

253 Publius @ 218- We had 'floating' headers on cotton pickers and combines back in 1972. They were not perfect and many operators did not trust them.

Posted by: Eromero at September 13, 2016 11:11 PM (zLDYs)

254 Just keep 4chan away from the nuclear football and we should be fine. And if they suggest anything about age of consent laws, for the love of God, it's a trap.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:11 PM (kumBu)

Lol. So much truth.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 13, 2016 11:12 PM (pUDQf)

255 Colin Powell wrote "Everything HRC touches, she kind of screws up with hubris."

Ha! Yeah, let's elect her president.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 13, 2016 10:58 PM (P8951)

Could just as easily be describing himself as well.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 13, 2016 11:12 PM (Pz4pT)

256 "Wasn't Randy Johnson on the Expos in the 80's?

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at September 13, 2016 11:11 PM (rvzMR) "

Yes. Late 80's/early 90's, traded for Mark Langston early in his career.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:12 PM (kumBu)

257 You know, you'd think those scary white supremacists would choose a more fearsome symbol - a snarling white wolf or bear for instance. Instead, they supposedly chose a cartoon frog. Because we all shake in our shoes when we think of frogs.

Hill wants to scare people with a cartoon frog.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 13, 2016 11:12 PM (P8951)

258 People have told me I should write a book.

But writing a book is SO hard....it takes a lot of time and effort, and getting it published is a needle in a haystack type thing.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 11:13 PM (F5hTl)

259 Or...

They could be going for the whole "Hillary was on the verge of death, but OMG! She defeated death itself to sacrifice for her country!" gambit.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 11:13 PM (rlfds)

260 257 You know, you'd think those scary white supremacists would choose a more fearsome symbol - a snarling white wolf or bear for instance. Instead, they supposedly chose a cartoon frog. Because we all shake in our shoes when we think of frogs.

Hill wants to scare people with a cartoon frog.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 13, 2016 11:12 PM (P8951)

and named it... Pepe????

uhhhhhh....

Posted by: Don Q. at September 13, 2016 11:13 PM (qf6WZ)

261 123
Also, consider that Trotsky was expelled from the Soviet Union, and eventually assassinated, not because of his politics, which was thoroughly communist, but because he was a personal threat to Stalin. The notion that the Soviet's war with National Socialist Germany indicates a deep philosophical difference is laughable.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 13, 2016 10:34 PM (E7/zB)

It only went as deep as those outside of the Soviet Union didn't want to be *controlled* by them, and were (rightly) suspicious of the "Internationale". That was why they emphasized the National part. Otherwise they proclaimed the same goals, even if the means were slightly different.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 13, 2016 11:13 PM (ASSjT)

262 254 Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at September 13, 2016 11:11 PM (rvzMR)

Two years 88-89....

Posted by: sven10077 at September 13, 2016 11:13 PM (SzZnW)

263 We had a little Gleaner combine with an "automatic header". This was an automatic height control. It didn't work well and we just locked it out. It would dig in the ground, etc, etc.

The design was improved. A neighbor had one with a floating cutterbar, which was great for cutting soybeans (have to skim the ground). It required an automatic height control. You couldn't keep it in proper range manually. They had improved the sensors and control system a lot by that year model.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 13, 2016 11:14 PM (DW+jj)

264 259 Or...

They could be going for the whole "Hillary was on the verge of death, but OMG! She defeated death itself to sacrifice for her country!" gambit.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 11:13 PM (rlfds)

I took one look at her and said... 'she ain't getting in MY damn boat!'

Posted by: Charon, Ferryman and DNC voter turnout expert at September 13, 2016 11:14 PM (qf6WZ)

265 233 Last night on the ONT there was some discussion about Jeopardy. Twenty years ago I was on the show and somebody I don't know recently tracked me down and sent me a link to my episode. Here it is:

http://tinyurl.com/zo5g3sd
Posted by: biancaneve at September 13, 2016 11:06 PM (6p7LQ)

Cool. Which one was you?

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 13, 2016 11:14 PM (sdi6R)

266 Randy Johnson was big and had a wonky delivery, so he walked a ton of guys early in his career. When he was able to develop a repeatable delivery, he became the dominant force he'd be for over a decade. But I don't consider it a bad trade for the Expos - Langston was an Ace, and Johnson was a huge question mark.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:15 PM (kumBu)

267 Here's a couple of Clinton campaign staffers doing oppo research -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpCWO_X8JGw

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 13, 2016 11:15 PM (6FqZa)

268 Broseidon - good luck with the Jeopardy auditions! I just auditioned once. I knew I was going to get booked on the show when the producer told me I had good energy during the mock game. And I'm sure being a mid-30's female helped a lot. I don't think I could do it today. I'm not as quick and I haven't kept up with pop culture.

Posted by: biancaneve at September 13, 2016 11:15 PM (6p7LQ)

269 Trotsky powered through that icepick.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:16 PM (kumBu)

270 People have told me I should write a book.

But writing a book is SO hard....it takes a lot of time and effort, and getting it published is a needle in a haystack type thing.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 11:13 PM (F5hTl)

I've thought about doing the same.

Haven't looked into it, but I have heard about alternative publishing companies, at least one of which was Christian, that might be an open door where others wouldn't.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 13, 2016 11:16 PM (heN73)

271 'The tractor above is a diesel farm tractor with a computer driving it instead of a human. It's a robot by definition.'

Until it plows up an Indian Burial Ground covered in Animal Bones, then it's... KillRactor!

Posted by: I Vino Veritits at September 13, 2016 11:16 PM (WVCC6)

272 Those questions seem much harder than the questions today!

Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 11:17 PM (F5hTl)

273 @265 - I'm on the right - I came in third. Still have my Pierre Cardin watch!

Posted by: biancaneve at September 13, 2016 11:18 PM (6p7LQ)

274 http://tinyurl.com/zo5g3sd
Posted by: biancaneve at September 13, 2016 11:06 PM (6p7LQ)

That is cool! If you don't mind me asking which one are you - Kathy, Carl or Holly?

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 13, 2016 11:18 PM (P8951)

275 @270

Cool, what would your book be about?

Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 11:18 PM (F5hTl)

276 has anyone posting on this blog ever gotten the hash.. (br549)?

Posted by: madamemayhem at September 13, 2016 11:19 PM (WPm3x)

277 I'm on the right - I came in third. Still have my Pierre Cardin watch!

Posted by: biancaneve at September 13, 2016 11:18 PM (6p7LQ)

Video proof that the 'Ettes are hot.

Also,

How YOU doin'?

Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at September 13, 2016 11:19 PM (GUBah)

278 http://tinyurl.com/zo5g3sd
Posted by: biancaneve at September 13, 2016 11:06 PM (6p7LQ)

Cool. Which one was you?

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 13, 2016 11:14 PM (sdi6R)

I was really expecting to get rickrolled over to Weird Al's "I Lost on Jeopardy"...

Posted by: Don Q. at September 13, 2016 11:19 PM (qf6WZ)

279 "Posted by: biancaneve at September 13, 2016 11:15 PM (6p7LQ) "

I'm a late 20's decent looking (non pajama boy) white male who can be pretty damn energetic when I have to be. Not their dream demographic, but not the worst, either.

Contestant coordinators from multiple shows (The Chase, WWTBAM, Million Second Quiz) have said I'd be great on TV, but talk is cheap, and none of those shows actually cast me.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:19 PM (kumBu)

280 236 publius: Expos from the 80's?

Gary Carter. Tim Raines. Andre Dawson. Tim Wallach. So much potential...
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:07 PM (kumBu)

The Hawk was a child hood hero of mine. He had a freaking cannon from Right Field.

Also didn't' Tim Raines admit to playing baseball high on coke and even carried the coke in his back pocket?

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 13, 2016 11:19 PM (X/5o4)

281 I'm on the right - I came in third

I'm going to haunt you for that.

Posted by: howard taft at September 13, 2016 11:20 PM (6FqZa)

282 @270

Cool, what would your book be about?

Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 11:18 PM (F5hTl)

Resisting the Devil in the US economy.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 13, 2016 11:21 PM (heN73)

283 Tickled Pink, see post 89.

Traditional publishers are dying. Their sales account for less than half the market now.

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at September 13, 2016 11:21 PM (rvzMR)

284 It's the Sunbelt Ag Expo, and is a Big F'ing Deal in the Ag world. It's YUGE.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 13, 2016 11:21 PM (DW+jj)

285 Watching old J! episodes, I do think the current questions are easier, but it also could be the differences in years.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:22 PM (kumBu)

286 282 @270

Cool, what would your book be about?

Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 11:18 PM (F5hTl)

Resisting the Devil in the US economy.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 13, 2016 11:21 PM (heN73)

Resistance? is futile....

Posted by: Oh... I don't know.... SATAN! at September 13, 2016 11:22 PM (qf6WZ)

287 Colin Powell wrote "Everything HRC touches, she kind of screws up with hubris."

Ha! Yeah, let's elect her president.
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We have to elect her to find out what she will do!

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi, Democrat at September 13, 2016 11:23 PM (tvyXw)

288 I'm on the right - I came in third. Still have my Pierre Cardin watch!

Posted by: biancaneve at September 13, 2016 11:18 PM (6p7LQ)

Video proof that the 'Ettes are hot.

Yeah I was quite pleased myself.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 13, 2016 11:23 PM (heN73)

289 "Also didn't' Tim Raines admit to playing baseball high on coke and even carried the coke in his back pocket?

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 13, 2016 11:19 PM (X/5o4) "

Yeah, the rumor is he kept the vial in his back pocket and slid headfirst to not break it. He was a heck of a player, though - most efficient base stealer ever given how many attempts he had, and a great OBP.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:24 PM (kumBu)

290 It's the Sunbelt Ag Expo, and is a Big F'ing Deal in the Ag world. It's YUGE.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 13, 2016 11:21 PM (DW+jj)

I keep trying to make it down to that part of the state for that event, but something always comes up. Someday, though...

Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at September 13, 2016 11:24 PM (GUBah)

291 Resistance? is futile....

Posted by: Oh... I don't know.... SATAN! at September 13, 2016 11:22 PM (qf6WZ)

Flee from me asshole.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 13, 2016 11:24 PM (heN73)

292 So how many are making it to the CenTexMoMee?

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 11:24 PM (rlfds)

293 Posted by: biancaneve at September 13, 2016 11:06 PM (6p7LQ)

That is too cool. I've always wanted to be on, but never had the nerve. I used to watch every day, but not as much anymore. From the date, I probably watched that one when it was first broadcast.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 13, 2016 11:25 PM (ASSjT)

294 "The Hawk was a child hood hero of mine. He had a freaking cannon from Right Field.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 13, 2016 11:19 PM (X/5o4) "

The 70's and 80's had some amazing OF arms. Andre Dawson, Dwight Evans, Dave Parker, Jesse Barfield, Bo Jackson.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:26 PM (kumBu)

295 269
Trotsky powered through that icepick.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:16 PM (kumBu)

I've actually seen the very one -- there was a special exhibition a the Reagan library. Not what I was expecting -- it was shaped as an "Irish typewriter" sort-of pick with a handle only about a foot long.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2016 11:26 PM (EzgxV)

296 Shooting is soothing and good for the soul. So is running a combine, cotton picker, or tractor. I used to go home on leave to S.C. and ask old Pappy Eromero if there was any field work to be done. My then wife unit would say 'Are you crazy? You're on leave!' I'd just laugh, grab some Copenhagen, and climb on a big old Allis-Chalmers, John Deere, I.H., or Massey Ferguson and grab me some cheap brain therapy.

Posted by: Eromero at September 13, 2016 11:27 PM (zLDYs)

297 289 "Also didn't' Tim Raines admit to playing baseball high on coke and even carried the coke in his back pocket?

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 13, 2016 11:19 PM (X/5o4) "

Yeah, the rumor is he kept the vial in his back pocket and slid headfirst to not break it. He was a heck of a player, though - most efficient base stealer ever given how many attempts he had, and a great OBP.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:24 PM (kumBu

Yep! That's the exact story I was looking for as confirmation. Thanks!

No doubt Rock Raines was a badass ball player.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 13, 2016 11:27 PM (X/5o4)

298 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 13, 2016 11:27 PM (T/cxb)

299 Shooting is soothing and good for the soul.

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Amen.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 11:27 PM (rlfds)

300 On the subject of Cuba. The church I attend ( not a member) recently sent a mission group to Cuba. What say you Hordlings, dilletante, acceptable, or commendable.
Some friends went in this group.

Posted by: tubal at September 13, 2016 11:28 PM (d6TTt)

301 Sadly, the genre I would be interested in would be the toughest nut to crack.

I would like to write good, smart books for the teenage/young adult market. I read a ton growing up, and I know what an asset it is to read books that make you think. Not just teenage angst/romance garbage.

But, it's difficult to crack that genre, because there is so much market saturation of stupid stuff.

I'd like to do something like Ender's Game meets Girl with a Pearl Earring meets Star Trek.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 11:28 PM (F5hTl)

302 So how many are making it to the CenTexMoMee?

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 11:24 PM (rlfds)

*waves hand*

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 13, 2016 11:29 PM (heN73)

303 >>>Hill wants to scare people with a cartoon frog.
(cough)just a frog in my throat(cough

Posted by: illary at September 13, 2016 11:30 PM (xo2GX)

304 Sadly, the genre I would be interested in would be the toughest nut to crack.

I would like to write good, smart books for the teenage/young adult market. I read a ton growing up, and I know what an asset it is to read books that make you think. Not just teenage angst/romance garbage.

But, it's difficult to crack that genre, because there is so much market saturation of stupid stuff.

I'd like to do something like Ender's Game meets Girl with a Pearl Earring meets Star Trek.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 11:28 PM (F5hTl)

Go for it!

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 13, 2016 11:30 PM (heN73)

305 Heh CB, knew you were going.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 11:30 PM (rlfds)

306 Thanks for the compliments, gang. Watching that now I think, "Yeah, I was pretty cute in my day! Maybe I should do my hair like that again."

Posted by: biancaneve at September 13, 2016 11:31 PM (6p7LQ)

307 Tuesday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/775730197551284224

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/775730335824904192

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/775730476883537921

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/775730599806009344

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/775730742672367616

Posted by: kbdabear at September 13, 2016 11:31 PM (Ya7zs)

308 I'm off for a nap.
I intend to return but if not...
be well you Morons.

Posted by: Farmer at September 13, 2016 11:32 PM (o/90i)

309 294 "The Hawk was a child hood hero of mine. He had a freaking cannon from Right Field.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 13, 2016 11:19 PM (X/5o4) "

The 70's and 80's had some amazing OF arms. Andre Dawson, Dwight Evans, Dave Parker, Jesse Barfield, Bo Jackson.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:26 PM (kumBu

Indeed. But few would dare to tag up from 2nd to 3rd on a fly ball hit to The Hawk in Right Field. Great baseball nickname as well.

Can you imagine if Bo Jackson only played baseball, which was is favorite sport? He could have been on of the greatest of all time.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 13, 2016 11:32 PM (X/5o4)

310 TickledPink,

Check this out:

https://www.smashwords.com/

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 11:32 PM (rlfds)

311 I'm enjoying a dinner of Hormel's Corned Beef Hash.

I haven't cooked a meal since November. I was doing pretty good for a couple of years, but I hit a wall and I just can't do it any more. It's too much work and too much stress.

I've probably bought and thrown out a dozen packages of meat since then, not to mention other ingredients. I keep telling myself I'm going to cook something, then they go past their sell-by date, start turning brown, and I throw them out and buy another one. Then the same thing happens again.

This is getting ridiculous. I think it's time to throw in the towel and just start buying TV dinners again. I lived on them for 30 years; I can do it again.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 13, 2016 11:32 PM (sdi6R)

312 Oh, a .50 would look real sweet on that tractor.
Posted by: SMFH

For groundhogs

Posted by: Jean at September 13, 2016 11:32 PM (ngn8T)

313 Hillary's campaign makes me sad.

Posted by: Kermit at September 13, 2016 11:33 PM (6FqZa)

314 More Tuesday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/775730899526778881

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/775731016665276416

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/775731121300668417

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/775731239538069504

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/775731352708739072

Posted by: kbdabear at September 13, 2016 11:33 PM (Ya7zs)

315 Posted by: Jean at September 13, 2016 11:32 PM (ngn8T)

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And anything else that gets in your way.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 11:33 PM (rlfds)

316 >> I keep trying to make it down to that part of the state for that event

Oh, it's worth it, if you're in to farm machinery. And it is huge, sprawling, and with field demonstrations.

I've been many times, starting out as child. The last time I went was probably in the late '90s or early '2000s. I remember the last time, coming back home, I made the mistake of going through Atlanta during the 5pm-ish after work rush hour.

I got in the left lane in a '94 CV, and I had an 18-wheeler riding my ass and I looked down and the speedometer was at 85mph. I can't remember if it pegged there or went higher. The safety idiots were responsible for limiting speedometers, IIRC, thinking it would encourage you to drive too fast.

Anyway, that was pucker factor.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 13, 2016 11:33 PM (DW+jj)

317 Heh CB, knew you were going.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 11:30 PM (rlfds)

Heh heh and bringing several of my little friends with me.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 13, 2016 11:34 PM (heN73)

318 it was shaped as an "Irish typewriter" sort-of pick with a handle only about a foot long.
Posted by: cthulhu
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I designed the Chicago Typewriter.

Posted by: John Thompson at September 13, 2016 11:34 PM (J3phO)

319 Zero hedge has more DNC leaks.

Pathetic. One might even claim deplorable, but this information is not surprising at all. Give generously to the DNC and you too can have a cushy perch in the GBBG.

And of course wait for it,,, the DNC is the victim in this release; not American taxpayers.

Posted by: Cooldawg at September 13, 2016 11:35 PM (v/mjE)

320 This is getting ridiculous. I think it's time to throw in the towel and just start buying TV dinners again. I lived on them for 30 years; I can do it again.
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 13, 2016 11:32 PM (sdi6R)

You live alone? People ever come over?

Posted by: tubal at September 13, 2016 11:35 PM (d6TTt)

321 *swoon*

Browning automatic rifle.

Makes one want to get a class III license.

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at September 13, 2016 11:35 PM (zwsnd)

322 "Can you imagine if Bo Jackson only played baseball, which was is favorite sport? He could have been on of the greatest of all time.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 13, 2016 11:32 PM (X/5o4) "

Needed to hone his batting eye - he was always a wild swinger. But he definitely could have been a Hall of Famer on HR's alone, and his once-in-a-generation arm. Harold Reynolds still isn't sure how Bo threw him out from the warning track.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:35 PM (kumBu)

323 Colin Powell wrote "Everything HRC touches, she kind of screws up with hubris."

Yeah, so does King Putt, and Colin endorsed him also.

Posted by: navybrat at September 13, 2016 11:36 PM (w7KSn)

324 320
You live alone? People ever come over?
Posted by: tubal at September 13, 2016 11:35 PM (d6TTt)

Yep. Nope.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 13, 2016 11:37 PM (sdi6R)

325 "Can you imagine if Bo Jackson only played baseball, which was is favorite sport? He could have been on of the greatest of all time.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 13, 2016 11:32 PM (X/5o4) "

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Baseball may have been his passion, but he was phenomenal with the Raiders.

Still a painful memory...but damn, Bo Jackson and Marcus Allen on the same team....was sweet while it lasted.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 11:37 PM (rlfds)

326 Also, IMHO, the greatest throw ever was by Jose Guillen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFAbXnlzZGQ

But it's Jose Guillen, and no part of his game was ever consistent. I wouldn't rank him among the likes of Barfield and Parker and Dawson and Evans. But that one throw was just majestic. Bonus: it happened because he initially botched the catch. Classic Guillen.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:38 PM (kumBu)

327 TickledPink, Country Boy -- write your books, and indie publish. The publishing industry (even the small ones) is in necrosis anyway. Get thou to the Book Thread/AoS Goodreads group! Lots of authors in the Moron Horde. I'm one of them (10 books and counting...)

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at September 13, 2016 11:38 PM (SuJIo)

328 What good is money if getting the money causes physical or mental illness, for which you have to spend money to fix?

Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 11:04 PM (F5hTl)

Maybe it's time to simplify things. What do you *really* need in your life? How much, if any, stuff do you have because it's expected?

At the end of the day, if you keep it simple, you might be surprised how easy it all is.

Posted by: Sixkiller...TEXIT at September 13, 2016 11:39 PM (y0er3)

329 Cooking for yourself does suck after a while. I'm a carnivore, so grilling a steak or pork steaks, with a couple ears of corn, is what I do when wife is gone. She's absent a lot on grandma duty, or managing things for her geriatric dad.

Posted by: tubal at September 13, 2016 11:39 PM (d6TTt)

330 I got in the left lane in a '94 CV, and I had an 18-wheeler riding my ass ...
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Same here, in a '78 Mazda GLC. The truck had a deep, polished chrome front bumper. I realized that looking through the rearview mirror, I could actually see the reflection of my car in the bumper.

It was no sweat, as the Mazda was hotted, with cam, twin two-throat 42mm Mikuni sidedrafts, and header, but the asshole was certainly all over me.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2016 11:39 PM (J3phO)

331 321
*swoon*

Browning automatic rifle.

Makes one want to get a class III license.

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at September 13, 2016 11:35 PM (zwsnd)

Browning (PBUH) built every one of his demonstration models with equipment less capable than you can buy at Harbor Freight today. Of course, with all the "Social Justice and Economic Analysis" courses taught today, nobody knows how to use machine tools any more.....

Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2016 11:40 PM (EzgxV)

332 "Shooting is soothing and good for the soul. So is running a combine, cotton picker, or tractor. "

Completely agree. Used to get a lot of thinking done while going round and round in the fields. You get used to the noise pretty quick and it sorta becomes background noise.

And if you've got a more modern machine with an AC and a radio it's a downright pleasant experience.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 13, 2016 11:40 PM (iyWqN)

333 Sacre bleu, I am outraged at zees imposter, zees Pepe the frog. All know that I am zee original frog skunk, le grande LePew, the lover of the pussy. And I am not white supremacist but noir with a lovely blanc stripe. Death to that green piece of merde!

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 13, 2016 11:40 PM (P8951)

334
Colin Powell wrote "Everything HRC touches, she kind of screws up with hubris."
Yeah, so does King Putt, and Colin endorsed him also.
Posted by: navybrat at September 13, 2016 11:36 PM

Alan Dershowitz was on Megyn Kelly tonight saying yes he would vote Hillary of course.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 13, 2016 11:42 PM (IqV8l)

335 okay rick...how bout this.

On the weekend, or sometime, cook some chicken, pork, whatever, enough for several meals, and then portion them out...some with pasta, rice, veggies.

If you look, you can find great resources on how to make like 10 meals in 1 day.

Join Pinterest, you can find lots of recipes that may work for you.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 11:42 PM (F5hTl)

336 What good is money if getting the money causes physical or mental illness, for which you have to spend money to fix?
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For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

Posted by: Matthew 16:26 at September 13, 2016 11:42 PM (J3phO)

337 Back in college, I learned I would crazy in short order if I didn't get back home, in the country, and get out and drive a tractor.

I remember bringing a girl one time, and some friends another, and I discovered something. They were raised in the city, or in high population density suburbs. They'd go crazy out in the country. What drove me crazy is what they needed, and what I needed drove them crazy.

"What do you do out here with nothing around?!" "Think", I remember saying one time.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 13, 2016 11:43 PM (DW+jj)

338 Alan Dershowitz was on Megyn Kelly tonight saying yes he would vote Hillary of course.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.
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"Enhtusiastcally"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2016 11:43 PM (J3phO)

339 Happy birthday to the tank! 100 years ago today the tank entered combat in WWI

Posted by: josephistan at September 13, 2016 11:43 PM (7qAYi)

340 "Still a painful memory...but damn, Bo Jackson and Marcus Allen on the same team....was sweet while it lasted.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 11:37 PM (rlfds) "

Makes the Raiders hella fun to play as in Tecmo Super Bowl. Though my personal favorite offensive weapon is Randall Cunningham, AKA QB Eagles. It's easily possible to put up like 800 yards of total offense against the CPU, especially the Colts or Patriots.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:43 PM (kumBu)

341 I made the decision to make a decent meal once a week, a roast, a pot of soup or a casserole, or something like that, that I could eat on for a while.
I also try to make beans and rice each week and that fills up more meals.

The rest is catch-it as it goes past.

If you do a Hormel meal you can pad it out with a salad or fruit.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2016 11:43 PM (lDj6i)

342 333 was not that strange Donna with the ampersands but the great moi, zee greatest of all skunks!

Posted by: Monsieur Pepe at September 13, 2016 11:43 PM (P8951)

343 "The time is surely coming...when society will look upon the production of a weakling as a crime against itself."

****

Uh oh. There go Hollywood act persons, the entire LGBT cadre, Silicon Valley delta-male moguls, university profs and students, SJW faux warriors, almost all progs...all media talking heads ...

Myself, before I sent them up against the wall , I'd make each put on a Che Guevara T-shirt.

After all, don't all hipsters love irony?

Posted by: Noam Sayen at September 13, 2016 11:44 PM (bIhmV)

344 Ace is only 29? Good grief, he's the same age as my oldest child!

Posted by: katya the designated driver at September 13, 2016 11:44 PM (WlQGZ)

345 "Enhtusiastcally"
Posted by: Mike Hammer

Crap. 'Enthusiastically'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2016 11:44 PM (J3phO)

346 Oh, has anyone decoded the Q-code at the top of the ONT? I'd have to build something to read it, then tear it apart and sanitize the components -- so I haven't.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2016 11:44 PM (EzgxV)

347 OK now, listen up. The book "A place outside the wild" is an amazingly good read. I throughly enjoyed it and I had my daughter read it and she now wants more. Buy the book and read it, you won't be disappointed. I got a free copy but I'm going to buy a copy of my own.
Great book.

Posted by: Peggy at September 13, 2016 11:44 PM (HBU7W)

348 Elizabeth Chan, Hillary's toadsleuth, is getting her lilypad swamped with memes:
https://twitter.com/elizabethchan/status/775499739995529216

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 13, 2016 11:45 PM (6FqZa)

349 Completely agree. Used to get a lot of thinking done while going round and round in the fields. You get used to the noise pretty quick and it sorta becomes background noise.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 13, 2016 11:40 PM (iyWqN)

This is how I feel about mowing my lawn. We mow around 2+/- acres with a rider and for me it is 90 minutes of motorized meditation. I do wear headphones and listen to music while mowing.

Posted by: madamemayhem at September 13, 2016 11:45 PM (WPm3x)

350 "Ace is only 29? Good grief, he's the same age as my oldest child!

Posted by: katya the designated driver at September 13, 2016 11:44 PM (WlQGZ) "

It's an old joke. Ace has been celebrating his 29th birthday for roughly 16 or 17 years now.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:45 PM (kumBu)

351 343 "The time is surely coming...when society will look upon the production of a weakling as a crime against itself."

****

Uh oh. There go Hollywood act persons, the entire LGBT cadre, Silicon Valley delta-male moguls, university profs and students, SJW faux warriors, almost all progs...all media talking heads ...

Myself, before I sent them up against the wall , I'd make each put on a Che Guevara T-shirt.

After all, don't all hipsters love irony?

Posted by: Noam Sayen at September 13, 2016 11:44 PM (bIhmV)

There were also a lot of Americans who were into Eugenics... people like Theodore Roosevelt...

Posted by: Don Q. at September 13, 2016 11:46 PM (qf6WZ)

352 "There were also a lot of Americans who were into Eugenics... people like Theodore Roosevelt...

Posted by: Don Q. at September 13, 2016 11:46 PM (qf6WZ) "

To be fair, eugenics didn't really become gauche into that whole Holocaust dealie. George Bernard Shaw was another major proponent of eugenics.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:47 PM (kumBu)

353 I remember the first time I drove a tractor with a cab and A/C. I couldn't stand it. I was used to driving without a cab and having unrestricted view of everything. And the sound dampening was a problem as well.

I'd become unaccustomed to hearing everything that was going on. The sounds of the harrow, or whatever. It was loud and ruining my hearing long term, of course, but I was used to, and needed all that noise.

I felt blind in a cab. Now, I was used to driving a combine with a cab. You couldn't stand a combine without a cab -- all the dust. But they did make them, and my father had driven one without a cab. Told me what a baby I was. :-)

He knew better.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 13, 2016 11:48 PM (DW+jj)

354 344
Ace is only 29? Good grief, he's the same age as my oldest child!

Posted by: katya the designated driver at September 13, 2016 11:44 PM (WlQGZ)

Extensive readers of AoSHQ know Ace's age precisely, because he identified himself as sharing a birthday with a famous figure when he turned XXX and the famous figure turned YYY. I don't remember how young a whippersnapper that makes him, but I don't think it's 29.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2016 11:48 PM (EzgxV)

355
GOOD EVENING EVERYONE so I saw Paul Ryan on t.v. today saying IvankaCare "isn't small government" so he's going to invoke chex and balances to stop it.

OH MY GOD ISN'T THAT ADORABLE ALL THE WAY AROUND????

Posted by: iforgot has pix of 911 memorial in nic at September 13, 2016 11:48 PM (5o5ek)

356 This is getting ridiculous. I think it's time to throw in the towel and
just start buying TV dinners again. I lived on them for 30 years; I
can do it again.>>>

I mostly hate the cleanup of cooking.(do love my gas grill since fire cleans it) So a simple hack is frozen meatballs and ramen. The hack is the ramen put 8 oz of water in a ziplock sandwich bag and mix in the ramen seasoning. Then pop the dry ramen in the ziplock bag and let it sit on the counter for an hour or in the fridge overnight. Microwave the frozen meatballs on a Dixie plate for 90 seconds. Pour the now soft ramen from the ziplock bag on top microwave for another 90 seconds. Simple meal no dishes and can be mixed up a bit with different bottled sauces.

Posted by: Willy J. at September 13, 2016 11:48 PM (9/8em)

357 329 Cooking for yourself does suck after a while. I'm a carnivore, so grilling a steak or pork steaks, with a couple ears of corn, is what I do when wife is gone. She's absent a lot on grandma duty, or managing things for her geriatric dad.
Posted by: tubal at September 13, 2016 11:39 PM (d6TTt)

I don't have a grill. Maybe if I just cooked meat without bothering with a sauce, I might be able to handle it.

I need exact, precise step-by-step instructions, temperatures, measurements, etc. And I have to follow them exactly without any deviation. If the slightest thing goes wrong, I have a full-blown panic attack.

I find cooking extremely stressful and not at all pleasant. It's so much easier to just heat up a can of something.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 13, 2016 11:48 PM (sdi6R)

358 Oh, has anyone decoded the Q-code at the top of the ONT? I'd have to build something to read it, then tear it apart and sanitize the components -- so I haven't.

It's really not worth it. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to get back to bleaching my brain to erase the image.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 13, 2016 11:48 PM (T/cxb)

359 Hubris precedes Nemesis.
I think.
It's all Greek to me.

Posted by: navybrat at September 13, 2016 11:48 PM (w7KSn)

360 Oh, has anyone decoded the Q-code at the top of the ONT? I'd have to build something to read it, then tear it apart and sanitize the components -- so I haven't.
Posted by: cthulhu

Don't Click. You'll Be Sorry!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2016 11:49 PM (J3phO)

361 Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 11:42 PM (F5hTl)

Good idea. Or make a big pot of soup, or stew or chili. I always recommend making soup to novice cooks - you don't need exact amounts, there is not much to do once you put everything in the pot and you can freeze it and get lots of meals out of it.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 13, 2016 11:49 PM (P8951)

362 " I don't remember how young a whippersnapper that makes him, but I don't think it's 29.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2016 11:48 PM (EzgxV) "

Gun to my head, from his childhood recollections, I'd put ace at about 47.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:50 PM (kumBu)

363 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Posted by: Matthew 16:26 at September 13, 2016 11:42 PM (J3phO)

part of the line from A Man For All Seasons:

"Why Richard, it profit a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world. . . but for Wales!"

Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2016 11:50 PM (lDj6i)

364

Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2016 11:50 PM (lDj6i)

365 Three generations of idiots is enough, said Justive Oliver Wendall Holmes, Jr. in upholding mandatory sterilization laws back in the day.

He was also the one who came up with the "shouting fire in a crowded theater" analogy for restrictions on free speech.

It wasn't really a standard then, just an example, and the opinion where he used that has since been overturned. It's never been any sort of legal standard, but it persists today. Any would be censor always uses that.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 13, 2016 11:50 PM (DW+jj)

366 Dancing on the barrel's edge with no net!

Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2016 11:50 PM (lDj6i)

367 Posted by: iforgot has pix of 911 memorial in nic at September 13, 2016 11:48 PM (5o5ek)

Ryan is such an asshole. Nice of him to suddenly worry about "small government."

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 13, 2016 11:51 PM (P8951)

368 Thank you, Peggy! The sequel is marinating in my brain . . . Let your daughter know that Miles and Charlie will be back.

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at September 13, 2016 11:51 PM (rvzMR)

369 Ace's age is an important mathematical constant, like pi or e or Avogadro's number.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:51 PM (kumBu)

370 Dancing on the barrel's edge with no net!

Mock me if you must, but I will have you!

Posted by: The Barrel at September 13, 2016 11:51 PM (T/cxb)

371 Here is a cover of Bennie and the Jets, by the way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkaa0KfitNU

Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2016 11:51 PM (lDj6i)

372 339 Happy birthday to the tank! 100 years ago today the tank entered combat in WWI
Posted by: josephistan at September 13, 2016 11:43 PM (7qAYi)

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Whooo Hooooooo!!!

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 11:51 PM (rlfds)

373 111 @91

I am a believer and doer of prayer. I pray daily.

But, man I am on an anti-prayer kick lately, as some of the meanest-spirited people I know "pray" for me, then turn around and make me feel like garbage by talking about me behind my back.

Prayers feel hollow to me anymore.

Payers genuinely for you will never have that effect. Many people pray, or talk about prayer, to elevate themselves.

1Corinthians 13: 1-4 If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.

But don't worry. God has your back-and their number.

Matthew 7: 21-23
21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' 23 Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'

I will pray for you.

Posted by: Weirddave at September 13, 2016 11:52 PM (CTvSA)

374

Hey, a bold tag in the quoted text. That's fun.

Posted by: Weirddave at September 13, 2016 11:52 PM (CTvSA)

375 GB Shaw was also a socialist.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 13, 2016 11:52 PM (P8951)

376 "For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Posted by: Matthew 16:26 at September 13, 2016 11:42 PM (J3phO)"

Dracula quotes that passage at the end of Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. I know, I'm a nerd.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:53 PM (kumBu)

377 I need exact, precise step-by-step instructions, temperatures, measurements, etc. And I have to follow them exactly without any deviation. If the slightest thing goes wrong, I have a full-blown panic attack.

I find cooking extremely stressful and not at all pleasant. It's so much easier to just heat up a can of something.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 13, 2016 11:48 PM (sdi6R)

They make these things called.... Cook books....

Posted by: Don Q. at September 13, 2016 11:53 PM (qf6WZ)

378 This is how I feel about mowing my lawn. We mow around 2+/- acres with a rider and for me it is 90 minutes of motorized meditation. I do wear headphones and listen to music while mowing.
Posted by: madamemayhem
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I have these, and like them a LOT> http://preview.tinyurl.com/z4q4trv

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2016 11:53 PM (J3phO)

379 I'll share a today occurence, knowing that I risk Horde censure for inappropriate shopping.
So, I was in the drive- thru line at the local Starbucks. The car in front of me had two twenty something girls playing incomprehensible music, loud. BIG sticker on the back glass saying "Trump that Bitch" with Trump looking Presidential, and Hillary full retard.
Bitch could be in trouble come November.

Posted by: tubal at September 13, 2016 11:54 PM (d6TTt)

380 Cuba used to be a beautiful place. At least before I was born in there. That's what my parents told me.

So, fifteen years after Dear Castro's take over we evacuated to Spain, only to find communists agitating in there since Franco was looking more or less like Hillary looks now.

We were lucky enough that America took us in. Very happy and blessed to be here. But now...
I fear tremendously for the future of our nation.

Posted by: Martell at September 13, 2016 11:54 PM (z7zuz)

381 369 Ace's age is an important mathematical constant, like pi or e or Avogadro's number.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:51 PM (kumBu)

Hmmm I'd think more along the lines of...

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Posted by: Don Q. at September 13, 2016 11:55 PM (qf6WZ)

382 HRC Trying to pin her email Issues on me was one thing, but the Greedy bitch vacuumed up every last dollar from the university speaking fee trough.

That really pisses me off. This keeps up, the swells in the Hamptons are going to revoke my memberships.

Posted by: Colin Powell at September 13, 2016 11:55 PM (v/mjE)

383 " okay rick...how bout this.

On the weekend, or sometime, cook some chicken, pork, whatever, enough for several meals, and then portion them out...some with pasta, rice, veggies. "

I like to buy frozen, pre-cooked items like chicken breast and sausage patties. Taste better than TV and preparation time is not that much different.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 13, 2016 11:56 PM (iyWqN)

384 One piece bathing suits exist for a reason.

Posted by: LASue at September 13, 2016 11:57 PM (wgFcF)

385 Anyone know the payscale for an Ambassador?

Lots of folks seemed to be paying $650 K for one.... was it a good investment?

Posted by: Don Q. at September 13, 2016 11:57 PM (qf6WZ)

386 Cuba used to be a beautiful place. At least before I was born in there. That's what my parents told me.
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My grandparents, father, uncles, aunt, spent a lot of time there, from the teens up through the 50's. My dad always spoke nostalgically of it.

I have letters from their friends up through the mid 60's describing the deterioration of life. They finally got out with only suitcases of clothes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2016 11:59 PM (J3phO)

387 A good Trump ad would be showing one Trump supporter after another - a black pastor, a mom, a blue collar guy, a professional and so on - entirely normal looking people looking at the camera and saying "Hillary called me deplorable" "Hillary thinks I'm a racist" "Hillary says I'm irremediable."

Show the faces of the Americans Hillary insulted. Some of the fear LIVs have of Trump comes from the demonization of Trump supporters. Trump needs to un-demonize them.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 13, 2016 11:59 PM (P8951)

388 rickl: I can relate.

I used to love making chili, but I seem to have lost the knack. I've just gone through too many bowls of what started off tasting good or great, but by the time I've finished it it all just seems to turn to sludge.

I suppose I could try some new, radical-for-me recipes and make a point of following them *to the letter*; I tend to always deviate and try to turn everything into "my own", which seems to lately always become the "same old." I got a copy of Well Fed and am seriously tempted to try the Chocolate Chili recipe, even though in the past I would never add a sweet like cocoa to a savory like chili, in a million years. But if that's what it takes to *want* to fix chili again, okay, I'm thinking, go for it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 13, 2016 11:59 PM (OKox0)

389
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 13, 2016 11:32 PM (sdi6R)

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Too much stress? Get one of those three-ingredient cookbooks.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at September 13, 2016 11:59 PM (5o5ek)

390 I need exact, precise step-by-step instructions, temperatures,
measurements, etc. And I have to follow them exactly without any
deviation. If the slightest thing goes wrong, I have a full-blown panic
attack.
>>>

I got a T-Fal Optigrill for my dad for cooking meat now that Mom is gone. It's just a glorified George Foreman grill but if you follow the directions it's extra dodads help some. He likes it but really doesn't follow the directions and does ok.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/z7srdxe

Posted by: Willy J. at September 14, 2016 12:00 AM (9/8em)

391 We sure know how to totally fuck up a good thing.

Posted by: Commies at September 14, 2016 12:00 AM (Tyii7)

392 379 I'll share a today occurence, knowing that I risk Horde censure for inappropriate shopping.
So, I was in the drive- thru line at the local Starbucks. The car in front of me had two twenty something girls playing incomprehensible music, loud. BIG sticker on the back glass saying "Trump that Bitch" with Trump looking Presidential, and Hillary full retard.
Bitch could be in trouble come November.
Posted by: tubal at September 13, 2016 11:54 PM (d6TTt)

That is why ground reports such as this are important. Thanks for sharing

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 12:01 AM (aDVrz)

393 391 We sure know how to totally fuck up a good thing.
Posted by: Commies at September 14, 2016 12:00 AM (Tyii7)

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Yeah.

Even wet dreams.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 14, 2016 12:01 AM (rlfds)

394
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 13, 2016 11:59 PM (OKox0)

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Heya, qdpsteve! Made an appointment yet?

By the way, cocoa isn't actually a sweet; it's a bitter. It's also used in mole chicken. It'll probably give your chili a dark, dusky flavor.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at September 14, 2016 12:01 AM (5o5ek)

395 Too bad Fidel couldn't hack it as a baseball player - maybe things would have been different.

(And yes, I know, the stories of Castro getting an MLB tryout were a hoax - but he *was* an aspiring player an one point)

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 12:02 AM (kumBu)

396 iforgot, thanks.

I got my packet, gotta fill it out and send it back. The doctor said my appointment will likely be in October.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2016 12:02 AM (OKox0)

397 It doesn't make sense that the left would embrace eugenics. Don't they depend on untermenschen, perceived or real, for their votes?

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 14, 2016 12:02 AM (dtWKK)

398 We saw Mole Chicken open for Government Mule back in '14.

Posted by: Commies at September 14, 2016 12:02 AM (Tyii7)

399 Posted by: Martell at September 13, 2016 11:54 PM (z7zuz)

Glad you are here.

A Polish doctor I know feels the same. He fears America becoming what he grew up in; especially when he sees young people in Che T-shirts who think Communism is totes cool.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 14, 2016 12:02 AM (P8951)

400 357
329 Cooking for yourself does suck after a while. I'm a carnivore, so
grilling a steak or pork steaks, with a couple ears of corn, is what I
do when wife is gone. She's absent a lot on grandma duty, or managing
things for her geriatric dad.

Posted by: tubal at September 13, 2016 11:39 PM (d6TTt)

I don't have a grill. Maybe if I just cooked meat without bothering with a sauce, I might be able to handle it.

I need exact, precise step-by-step instructions, temperatures,
measurements, etc. And I have to follow them exactly without any
deviation. If the slightest thing goes wrong, I have a full-blown panic
attack.

I find cooking extremely stressful and not at all pleasant. It's so much easier to just heat up a can of something.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 13, 2016 11:48 PM (sdi6R)

I had fond hopes about teaching chemjeff about pan-frying steaks. Max the heat on your burner, wait until your pan gets very hot, slap in a bit of oil, wait for it to heat, throw in your steaks.

Wait about a minute -- the steak will want to arch-up away from the heat and burn around the edges while remaining raw across the field. Flip it. After a couple of minutes, shimmy it around and look for a good sear on the bottom. Repeat this until you have a good sear across the bottom, then flip again.

Sear the other side until you see nice browning. You might cook a little more to ensure there is no pink on the exposed edge. Then plate.

That is your kitchen's baseline pan-fried steak. If you've got a good burner, it is slightly charred on the outside, with a good sear, but is rare in the middle. If you've got an average burner, it has a good sear on the outside but is cooked to medium. If you have a shitty, apartment-level burner, it's grey all the way across.

If you want the beef more thoroughly cooked, turn the heat down and cook it longer.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 14, 2016 12:03 AM (EzgxV)

401
I got a T-Fal Optigrill for my dad for cooking meat now that Mom is gone. It's just a glorified George Foreman grill but if you follow the directions it's extra dodads help some. He likes it but really doesn't follow the directions and does ok.

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You know what else is good for making you think you're cooking AND actually producing very tasty food?

A bread machine.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at September 14, 2016 12:03 AM (5o5ek)

402 Posted by: Yuimetal at September 14, 2016 12:02 AM (dtWKK)

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No one ever said they make any sense.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 14, 2016 12:03 AM (rlfds)

403 395 Too bad Fidel couldn't hack it as a baseball player - maybe things would have been different.

(And yes, I know, the stories of Castro getting an MLB tryout were a hoax - but he *was* an aspiring player an one point)
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 12:02 AM (kumBu)

I'll bet he was a good basestealer, since he's certainly been good at stealing from the Cuban people all these years.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 14, 2016 12:04 AM (P8951)

404 335
On the weekend, or sometime, cook some chicken, pork, whatever, enough for several meals, and then portion them out...some with pasta, rice, veggies.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 11:42 PM (F5hTl)

The thing is, I was doing that for a couple of years and was getting fairly good at it.

Then I hit a wall for some reason, and I can't do it any more.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:05 AM (sdi6R)

405 " It doesn't make sense that the left would embrace eugenics. Don't they depend on untermenschen, perceived or real, for their votes?

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 14, 2016 12:02 AM (dtWKK) "

Again, to be fair, some on the right were also snookered by eugenics. But they dropped it like a hot rock when they realized the inevitable endgame of eugenics is genocide - if some genes are just better, isn't it the correct, mortal thing to eliminate the inferior genes? There's no way around it - eugenics is a philosophy of death (or at least forced sterilization/abortion) writ large.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 12:06 AM (kumBu)

406 Ah, beef on the grill. Blackened crust, bloody inside. If there are no dogs, or grilled steaks, in Heaven, I want to be where they are.

Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2016 12:06 AM (d6TTt)

407 369 Ace's age is an important mathematical constant, like pi or e or Avogadro's number.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 13, 2016 11:51 PM (kumBu)

More like pi, or e or root 2: fittingly, irrational numbers.

(Avogadro's constant depends on the unit of measure.)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 12:06 AM (SRKgf)

408 406 Ah, beef on the grill. Blackened crust, bloody inside. If there are no dogs, or grilled steaks, in Heaven, I want to be where they are.
Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2016 12:06 AM (d6TTt)

Wherever the grilled steaks are, the dogs are sure to be there as well.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 12:07 AM (SRKgf)

409 Good night, horde.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 14, 2016 12:07 AM (P8951)

410 tubal, sounds like the steak I had tonight. Yum. Am learning, medium-well or medium is the way to go. :-)

Also I've been finding it's worth it to pick up some USDA prime ribeyes or filets at Costco from time to time. Also yum.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2016 12:07 AM (OKox0)

411 I'll bet he was a good basestealer, since he's certainly been good at stealing from the Cuban people all these years.
Posted by: Donna
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Well, I mean, he's a lawyer.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 12:07 AM (J3phO)

412 Love that Colin Powell's leaked emails talk about how much the Clintons hate Obama. Hahaha and Ole Mooch was just sent out on the campaign trail. Double hahaha.

Posted by: Tuna at September 14, 2016 12:07 AM (JSovD)

413 I usually see a pretty even mix of president campaign signs around here. Even the People's Socialist Utopia of Bloomington has both R and D signs most yrs.. But this yr? I'm seeing lots of Trump/Pence and nothing on the dem side except some old Bernie primary signs. Dem gov, yep. Dem congress, yep. Not one Hellary/Kaine in the area. Haven't been to Bloomington in a while so can't confirm same there. But it really is amazing how little enthusiasm there is for the D president ticket.

Posted by: madamemayhem at September 14, 2016 12:07 AM (WPm3x)

414 They want cheap hookers.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 13, 2016 10:10 PM (noWW6)

Look for "hooker inflation" to be a thing there, very soon, if it is not already happening. I know some individuals who did a tour to Cuba, for precisely that reason. No, not me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 12:08 AM (oqkO3)

415 A bread machine.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at September 14, 2016 12:03 AM (5o5ek)
Was my suggestion perfect? No I read the part where exact instructions were needed.

Posted by: Willy J. at September 14, 2016 12:08 AM (9/8em)

416 G'night Donna.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 12:08 AM (J3phO)

417 "I'll bet he was a good basestealer, since he's certainly been good at stealing from the Cuban people all these years.

Posted by: DonnaV. deplorably brandishing ampersandsso there at September 14, 2016 12:04 AM (P8951) "

Apparently he was a mediocre pitcher that played in some scrimmages against colleges and semi-pro teams.

But as dictators and egomaniacs are want to do, he eventually built up a story of his being a top pitching prospect that was turned down by the Yankees/Senators (depends on the version of the myth) for political reasons.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 12:08 AM (kumBu)

418 I'll bet he was a good basestealer, since he's certainly been good at stealing from the Cuban people all these years.
Posted by: DonnaV. deplorably brandishing
ampersandsso there at September 14, 2016 12:04 AM
(P8951)

Xenophon made this joke about the Spartan's taking a pass from the Kardochi.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2016 12:08 AM (lDj6i)

419 Anybody seen the car commercial with Matthew McConaughey talking to the dogs in the back seat about where to go for lunch?

"No, we're not getting barbecue again."

I admit it's kind of cute.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2016 12:09 AM (OKox0)

420 Madame - Indiana?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 12:09 AM (J3phO)

421 It doesn't make sense that the left would embrace eugenics. Don't they depend on untermenschen, perceived or real, for their votes?
Posted by: Yuimetal at September 14, 2016 12:02 AM (dtWKK)

It actually does make a weird sort of sense. They have been practicing eugenics on Black people and to some extent Brown people through PP for about 40 years now. They know they could've used those built-in Black votes, but, abortion triumphs over every other concern. It makes even more sense once we found out the hellacious amounts of money they make off each dismembered infant.

The other dirty little secret of abortion is that if they ever figure out a true in utero test to determine if a baby will be a homosexual or not, then we will see another sector of cheerful genocide despite their supposed love for all things LBGQT.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil heart at September 14, 2016 12:09 AM (kXoT0)

422 Eugenics is a totalitarian, authoritarian impulse. The Progressive movement at the turn of the 19th century had all sorts of authoritarian impulses. They were utopian, going to forge society into some great thing, and to hell with those who didn't want their help.

Prohibition was a Progressive project, and even censorship of sex and dirty talk and all that.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 14, 2016 12:09 AM (DW+jj)

423 ive been banned

Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2016 12:10 AM (lDj6i)

424 382
HRC Trying to pin her email Issues on me was one thing, but the Greedy
bitch vacuumed up every last dollar from the university speaking fee
trough.

That really pisses me off. This keeps up, the swells in the Hamptons are going to revoke my memberships.

Posted by: Colin Powell at September 13, 2016 11:55 PM (v/mjE)

Too funny. That whole thing was so prissy elitist. Colin Powell, whines.

Posted by: gracepc at September 14, 2016 12:10 AM (OU4q6)

425 Smacks lips

Posted by: Barrel at September 14, 2016 12:10 AM (J3phO)

426

OK. tried five times to close that tag.

nite!

Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2016 12:10 AM (lDj6i)

427 Ah the Barrel, yearning and yawning for someone, up above.

Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2016 12:10 AM (d6TTt)

428
Ryan is such an asshole. Nice of him to suddenly worry about "small government."
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 13, 2016 11:51 PM (P8951)
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Isn't it though? It's the best reason to elect a liberal Republican for president. The liberal side of him will propose, and the overnight conservative Ryan will dispose.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at September 14, 2016 12:10 AM (5o5ek)

429 355
GOOD EVENING EVERYONE so I saw Paul Ryan on t.v. today saying IvankaCare "isn't small government" so he's going to invoke chex and balances to stop it.

OH MY GOD ISN'T THAT ADORABLE ALL THE WAY AROUND????
Posted by: iforgot has pix of 911 memorial in nic at September 13, 2016 11:48 PM (5o5ek)

In DC they have no shame.

I'm hoping Trump will elect to move the capital out of DC to allow the place to air out for a decade or so.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 12:10 AM (aDVrz)

430 I sense a barrel coming on....

Posted by: cthulhu at September 14, 2016 12:10 AM (EzgxV)

431 Whoa - just heard that a van smashed into 3 cops in Phoenix. Looks like it was intentional.

Colin Kapernick, you POS, are you going to protest that?

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 14, 2016 12:11 AM (P8951)

432 ive been banned
Posted by: Kindltot
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You wish.

No, no, my friend. Your fate will be many times worse.

Posted by: Barrel at September 14, 2016 12:11 AM (J3phO)

433 Roll out the barrel! Kindltot'll have a barrel of fun...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2016 12:11 AM (OKox0)

434 On the weekend, or sometime, cook some chicken, pork, whatever, enough for several meals, and then portion them out...some with pasta, rice, veggies.

If you look, you can find great resources on how to make like 10 meals in 1 day.

Join Pinterest, you can find lots of recipes that may work for you.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 13, 2016 11:42 PM (F5hTl)

Back in the day, doing the tenure dance, I used to get home at midnight, fire up some ramen, blanch some spinach, prepare a salad, and cut a slice off a beef roast that I cooked every Sunday. Twenty minutes later, chow down, and hit the sack by 1 am, and do it all again until next Sunday.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 12:12 AM (SRKgf)

435 Here's a good summary of the Progressive Movement at the turn of the 20th century:
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The Progressives believed in the Hamiltonian concept of positive
government, of a national government directing the destinies of the
nation at home and abroad. They had little but contempt for the strict
construction of the Constitution by conservative judges, who would
restrict the power of the national government to act against social
evils and to extend the blessings of democracy to less favored lands.
The real enemy was particularism, state rights, limited government.
----------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 14, 2016 12:12 AM (DW+jj)

436 The more I know people the better I like dogs.cats.

Posted by: Mr. alu Fods at September 14, 2016 12:12 AM (f0Lz0)

437 I'd like to ask for prayers for one of the greatest men I ever knew who passed today. I'll even name him, Stephen Goot. I worked for him for 10 years early career, and he taught me everything about being successful in business.

I can only hope I have passed along what he taught me.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, Deplorable and Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 12:12 AM (YLidQ)

438 "Prohibition was a Progressive project, and even censorship of sex and dirty talk and all that.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 14, 2016 12:09 AM (DW+jj) "

Progressivism is Sowell's "unconstrained vision" - the idea that man is perfectable. So eugenics was a great tool for that - we curate the best genes and create a race of ubermenschen. All it took was a few 100 million dead for most people to decide that it was probably a bad idea, though some are still fans of it.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 12:12 AM (kumBu)

439 Remember that Zappa record cover "weasels ripped my flesh"?

That guy had just come from the barrel.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2016 12:12 AM (OKox0)

440 "I need exact, precise step-by-step instructions, temperatures, measurements, etc. And I have to follow them exactly without any deviation."

There is a blog called _Cooking For Engineers_ which can be helpful in such difficult situations.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 12:13 AM (noWW6)

441 Prohibition was a Progressive project, and even censorship of sex and dirty talk and all that.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 14, 2016 12:09 AM (DW+jj)

More to the point, those were all feminist projects.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 12:13 AM (SRKgf)

442 Damn! Strike through fail.

Posted by: Mr. alu Fods at September 14, 2016 12:13 AM (f0Lz0)

443 429
355

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE so I saw Paul Ryan on t.v. today saying
IvankaCare "isn't small government" so he's going to invoke chex and
balances to stop it.

OH MY GOD ISN'T THAT ADORABLE ALL THE WAY AROUND????

Posted by: iforgot has pix of 911 memorial in nic at September 13, 2016 11:48 PM (5o5ek)

In DC they have no shame.

I'm hoping Trump will elect to move the capital out of DC to allow the place to air out for a decade or so.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 12:10 AM (aDVrz)

Thule AFB.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 14, 2016 12:14 AM (EzgxV)

444

You can make a killing in Eugenics!

Go long EBT Thalidomide!

Posted by: Alt Left Financial Advisor at September 14, 2016 12:14 AM (WVCC6)

445 http://tinyurl.com/hs6w2rr

Jane D'oh, do not click the above link, it might spike your blood pressure

Posted by: chemjeff at September 13, 2016 10:12 PM (5p18q)

Mark LaQuon Payne. Scandi, Hungarian, Vietnamese? It is a puzzlement, to be sure.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 12:14 AM (oqkO3)

446 Yeh Mike, I am in the great Hoosier state. We are celebrating our bicentennial this yr. Each county in the state has a big fiberglass bison statue. They get to decorate anyway they want. Bison-tennial. yeh, I'm serious.

Posted by: madamemayhem at September 14, 2016 12:14 AM (WPm3x)

447 Man is not perfectable. Observation from having lived for a while, and paying attention.

Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2016 12:15 AM (d6TTt)

448 Progressivism is Sowell's "unconstrained vision" - the idea that man is perfectable. So eugenics was a great tool for that - we curate the best genes and create a race of ubermenschen. All it took was a few 100 million dead for most people to decide that it was probably a bad idea, though some are still fans of it.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 12:12 AM (kumBu)

And once Genetic Engineering is practical... expect it to rear its ugly head again in places like North Korea...

Posted by: Don Q. at September 14, 2016 12:16 AM (qf6WZ)

449 I wonder how much AIDS they have in Cuba?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 13, 2016 10:12 PM (Zu3d9)

Probably very little, since the prime vectors get locked up when they are discovered.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 12:16 AM (oqkO3)

450 But as dictators and egomaniacs are want to do, he eventually built up a story of his being a top pitching prospect that was turned down by the Yankees/Senators (depends on the version of the myth) for political reasons.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 12:08 AM (kumBu)

At least unlike some he didn't claim he was turned down by the Marines because of his sex. Or ethnicity. Or because he was a raging Commie.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 12:17 AM (SRKgf)

451 Meanwhile, JBS Haldane, admired scientist and socialist, warned that: "Civilisation stands in real danger from over-production of 'undermen'." That's Untermenschen in German.

But I do think this is a real problem.

I think politicians are sociopathically retarded untermenschen. And their existence is destroying society. These inferior pieces of garbage need to be exterminated, Dalek style.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 14, 2016 12:17 AM (dtWKK)

452 "Man is not perfectable. Observation from having lived for a while, and paying attention.

Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2016 12:15 AM (d6TTt) "

That's conservatism/classical liberalism, i.e. the "constrained vision." Man is not perfectable, hence we need the rule of law.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 12:17 AM (kumBu)

453 "By the way, cocoa isn't actually a sweet; it's a bitter. It's also used in mole chicken."

I ate at a horrible restaurant where I swear the "mole" sauce had to have been made with melted Hershey bars. Intolerably sweet.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 12:17 AM (noWW6)

454 449 I wonder how much AIDS they have in Cuba?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 13, 2016 10:12 PM (Zu3d9)
Probably very little, since the prime vectors get locked up when they are discovered.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 12:16 AM (oqkO3)

Whereas here we elect them to Congress.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 12:17 AM (SRKgf)

455 I see everyone mentioning ramen. I know it's cheap and easy, but, they are finding out that it's just horrible for you. Buy some good frozen or dry egg noodles or learn to make them. Homemade noodles are wonderful food.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil heart at September 14, 2016 12:17 AM (kXoT0)

456 'Probably very little, since the prime vectors get locked up when they are discovered.'

I was a prisoner one time on a Cuban homo farm.

I'm never doing that again!

Posted by: Alt Left Financial Advisor at September 14, 2016 12:18 AM (WVCC6)

457 "I wonder how much AIDS they have in Cuba?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 13, 2016 10:12 PM (Zu3d9) "

Just one AID, but they ration a bit of it to everybody - ain't socialism grand?

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 12:18 AM (kumBu)

458 Funny, I didn't know the bit about Castro being an aspiring baseball pro player. The things I learn in here!
Yes, too bad he didn't make it. All the people whose lives he has destroyed...

We got out of the prison that is Cuba after more than ten years of red tape and handing money over to the government. In American dollars. When we left, I remember that they took from my wrist a small gold bracelet that my mom had made for me. Just because they felt like it.
We left with what little they allowed us to take inside a large red canvass bag made by my grandfather who was a tailor. I kept the bag for years after college. It meant so much to me.

I plan to go see Trump this Friday. Hopefully, my oldest will join me.

Posted by: Martell at September 14, 2016 12:19 AM (z7zuz)

459 wonder how much AIDS they have in Cuba?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 13, 2016 10:12 PM (Zu3d9)

Funny about that. I spent a lot of time, long time back in Kampala, Uganda. I was there for a while before I realised something. Everyone was young, strong and healthy! Took a bit longer to understand why. The older folks were all dead- a complete elder generation was missing. After working awhile in the city with the young folks, something else was apparent. They were frequently absent, for funerals.

Posted by: Min at September 14, 2016 12:19 AM (3hIZX)

460 450
At least unlike some he didn't claim he was turned down by the Marines because of his sex. Or ethnicity. Or because he was a raging Commie.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 12:17 AM (SRKgf)

And he wasn't turned down by NASA for being a woman.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:20 AM (sdi6R)

461 "I see everyone mentioning ramen. I know it's cheap and easy, but, they are finding out that it's just horrible for you."

I've not heard this. Why?

Every once in a while a bowl of ramen just hits the spot.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 12:24 AM (iyWqN)

462 Man is not perfectable, hence we need the rule of law.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 12:17 AM (kumBu)

and laws are for little people
Posted by: Every fucking worthless democrat ever elected

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 14, 2016 12:24 AM (voOPb)

463 325 "Can you imagine if Bo Jackson only played baseball, which was is favorite sport? He could have been on of the greatest of all time.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 13, 2016 11:32 PM (X/5o4) "

---

Baseball may have been his passion, but he was phenomenal with the Raiders.

Still a painful memory...but damn, Bo Jackson and Marcus Allen on the same team....was sweet while it lasted.
Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 13, 2016 11:37 PM (rlfds)

Did you catch the documentary about him several years ago. Loves the bow and arrow. Shoots from long range in his neighborhood IIRC.

Him and Herschel Walker are very similar and both incredible athletes and good souls.

What a freak injury.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 12:24 AM (aDVrz)

464 "Every once in a while a bowl of ramen just hits the spot.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 12:24 AM (iyWqN) "

IIRC it's chock full of sodium, so it might be bad if you have heart problems. Otherwise I don't think it's much different from other noodle and broth dishes.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 12:25 AM (kumBu)

465 I've wondered if instead of ramen, I should sometimes just fix myself some angel hair pasta and throw in some Asian sauces/spices. Would probably at least not have nearly as much sodium.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2016 12:25 AM (OKox0)

466 Get thou to the Book Thread/AoS Goodreads group! Lots of authors in the Moron Horde. I'm one of them (10 books and counting...)

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at September 13, 2016 11:38 PM (SuJIo)

The book thread pops up while I'm at church. I admit to skimming it sometimes though anyways.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 14, 2016 12:25 AM (Idu2i)

467 Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 12:24 AM (aDVrz)

---

Yeah, I've seen it, and it was a freak accident.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 14, 2016 12:26 AM (rlfds)

468 LOLBarky: in a speech for Hillary, he talks about himself 137 times.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 14, 2016 12:27 AM (6FqZa)

469 Margins. Blowed.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 12:27 AM (iyWqN)

470 "This futuristic piece of agricultural equipment is drawing crowds at the annual Iowa farm show, and for good reason."

Obvious question: did Mr. Iowa, Dave Burge design it? He is a mechanical genius, and this is precisely the sort of thing he would do in his spare time. This has Dave Burge written all over it.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 14, 2016 12:29 AM (dtWKK)

471 443 429
355

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE so I saw Paul Ryan on t.v. today saying
IvankaCare "isn't small government" so he's going to invoke chex and
balances to stop it.

OH MY GOD ISN'T THAT ADORABLE ALL THE WAY AROUND????

Posted by: iforgot has pix of 911 memorial in nic at September 13, 2016 11:48 PM (5o5ek)

In DC they have no shame.

I'm hoping Trump will elect to move the capital out of DC to allow the place to air out for a decade or so.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 12:10 AM (aDVrz)

Thule AFB.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 14, 2016 12:14 AM (EzgxV)

The Place would become a 5 star paradise within a few years. He does love a challlenge.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 12:30 AM (aDVrz)

472 The freaky thing about Bo's hip injury is that he popped his own hip back into its socket after it was dislocated - that's not something normal people do. But IIRC it actually made it worse.

It's pretty amazing that he managed to play a couple seasons in the MLB after that, but he wasn't the same guy - some of the power was still there, but almost all of the speed was gone.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 12:31 AM (kumBu)

473 I've not heard this. Why?

Every once in a while a bowl of ramen just hits the spot.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 12:24 AM (iyWqN)

High in fat and sodium, plus there is a kind of waxy substance that they use to keep the noodles separated that is not good for you. Most of the very cheap ramen is made in Korea. There are better noodle choices available.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil heart at September 14, 2016 12:32 AM (kXoT0)

474 Saw this on Gab:
Emailed my boss (Trump fan) that I felt overheated this morning (it's 68 and cloudy) and am possibly coming down with pneumonia. He replied "Have someone throw you in your truck, our meeting is at 9. Bring donuts."

Go Boss!

Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot at September 14, 2016 12:32 AM (9iR5/)

475 "We got out of the prison that is Cuba after more than ten years of red tape and handing money over to the government."

I'm glad for you and your family, Martell. Cuba could be such a rich island paradise if the Commies and Castros would quit beating it over the head with lead pipes.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 12:33 AM (iyWqN)

476 Nighty nite all you good people! and remember! as great as Bo Jackson was, he didn't know Diddly!

Posted by: madamemayhem at September 14, 2016 12:34 AM (WPm3x)

477 Rub possum with salt and black pepper. place into roasting pan. insert bay leaves into body cavity. place quartered onions and taters around the possum. baste with a mixture on vinegar, ketchup and brown sugar. Roast at 375 degrees for about an hour.

remove possum from roasting pan and throw into garbage. eat taters and onions with corn bread and bourbon.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at September 13, 2016 11:03 PM (/GIfd)

That is uncannily similar to the recipe for seagull: pluck and eviscerate the seagull, place in pot with enough water to cover, and add a large rock. Boil until the rock is tender. Discard seagull, eat the rock.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 12:34 AM (oqkO3)

478 468 LOLBarky: in a speech for Hillary, he talks about himself 137 times.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 14, 2016 12:27 AM (6FqZa)

Yeah, he ain't leaving quietly after the election, or he allows us to hold one.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 12:35 AM (aDVrz)

479 Goodnight all, thanks for the fun chat tonight.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2016 12:36 AM (OKox0)

480 Ace is only 29? Good grief, he's the same age as my oldest child!

Posted by: katya the designated driver at September 13, 2016 11:44 PM (WlQGZ)

He's pimped that so much lately I figure he's more like late 30's up to 40, maybe more.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 14, 2016 12:36 AM (Idu2i)

481 455 I see everyone mentioning ramen. I know it's cheap and easy, but, they are finding out that it's just horrible for you. Buy some good frozen or dry egg noodles or learn to make them. Homemade noodles are wonderful food.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil heart at September 14, 2016 12:17 AM (kXoT0)

"Horrible for you." That's crap. Why? Horseshit nutrition nostrums are our answer to horseshit patent medicines of the 19th century. I doubt very much that there's any fundamental difference between ramen and "homemade noodles." Noodles are noodles, i.e., carbohydrates. To be clear, by carbohydrates I mean (CH2O)n oligomers. (Btw, ask any layman babbling about "carbohydrates" what a carbohydrate actually is, if you would like a good laugh.)

As a chemist, I used to go wild over people babbling about how, e.g., vitamin C from rose hips (whatever those are) was so much better than vitamin C from rose dicks, which in turn was so much better than "synthetic" vitamin C. Vitamin C is vitamin C is vitamin C, totally independent of origin. If there's any difference between sources, then one of them is not pure.

So please don't say shit like that without sound empirical (i.e., experimental) evidence to back it up. Also, "they" - viz., biomedical researchers - are the worst scientists in existence, are totally overwhelmed by their subject, and are only too happy to ascribe any contradictory empirical results to "biological variation." The truth is they're shitty scientists by and large. Hence X (where X is, e.g., salt, eggs) is "bad for you," "no, it's good for you," "no, it's bad for you," "no, it's good for you" admonitions.

Bottom line: they don't fucking know, and are too incompetent at research to generate any results worthy of publication, much less credence. In real, no shit sciences, publishing something later proven to be wrong means your career is over.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 12:36 AM (SRKgf)

482 >>> I see everyone mentioning ramen. I know it's cheap and easy, but, they are finding out that it's just horrible for you."

"I've not heard this. Why?"

I had been chatting with someone who talked up MSG-free freeze-dried ramen. Most of it Korean, from what I understand. Much costlier than the usual dirt-cheap stuff.

Their conception was that MSG is bad for you and that cheap ramen is packed with that stuff. I went looking for corroboration.

I didn't find anything that specifically implicated MSG, which is in the vast, vast majority of freeze-dried ramen. But there are studies which observe increased risk of diabetes and metabolic syndrome in frequent (cheap, store-bought, freeze-dried) ramen eaters. Also increased all-cause mortality, if memory serves. Selection bias? Who can say?

I still have some bottom of the barrel $0.20/ea Nissin ramen as emergency stores, but I often now prefer (per Sherry's comment) dried egg noodles cooked in chicken broth. Slightly longer and fussier. Not all that much more costly.

Although the damn egg noodles are fortified with iron, and I'm trying to cut down on that, too.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 12:38 AM (noWW6)

483 Yeh Mike, I am in the great Hoosier state.
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Bisontennial, eh?

I spent some time there. Indy and Lafayette.
Indiana had one of the great governors, back when some Democrats were honorable men.

Ed Whitcomb, who authored 'Escape From Corregidor' Hell of a story.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 12:38 AM (ZxmMG)

484 Funny about that. I spent a lot of time, long time back in Kampala, Uganda. I was there for a while before I realised something. Everyone was young, strong and healthy! Took a bit longer to understand why. The older folks were all dead- a complete elder generation was missing. After working awhile in the city with the young folks, something else was apparent. They were frequently absent, for funerals.

Posted by: Min at September 14, 2016 12:19 AM (3hIZX)

I had a grad student from Zimbabwe who had to fly back there twice in three years for the funerals of his mother and sister. I didn't ask why, but it wasn't hard to guess. And no, he wasn't conning me; he was as honest as the day is long, and if he wanted to go back just to hang out, he could've done that with no problem.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 12:42 AM (SRKgf)

485 That is uncannily similar to the recipe for seagull: pluck and eviscerate the seagull, place in pot with enough water to cover, and add a large rock. Boil until the rock is tender. Discard seagull, eat the rock.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Carp - Place carp on cedar shingle, pack horse manure around fish and shingle, cover with foil, bake.

Remove from oven. Discard shingle and carp. Eat manure.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 12:42 AM (ZxmMG)

486 472 The freaky thing about Bo's hip injury is that he popped his own hip back into its socket after it was dislocated - that's not something normal people do. But IIRC it actually made it worse.

It's pretty amazing that he managed to play a couple seasons in the MLB after that, but he wasn't the same guy - some of the power was still there, but almost all of the speed was gone.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 12:31 AM (kumBu

Would have been one of the all time greats in Center Field if he chose baseball over football. Baseball pays better as well.

The hip thing had to do with how strong he was IICR. He ran with such force and was so strong that he popped his hip out and then popped it back in.

Yikes!

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 12:42 AM (aDVrz)

487 "He's pimped that so much lately I figure he's more like late 30's up to 40, maybe more."

I posited that Ace was probably mid-40's or so. His references to the 70's (i.e., Kaboom cereal) were a bit before my time.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 12:44 AM (iyWqN)

488 Bottom line: they don't fucking know, and are too incompetent at research to generate any results worthy of publication, much less credence. In real, no shit sciences, publishing something later proven to be wrong means your career is over.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Rose hips? I can explain those.

Posted by: Rose 'Andie' McDowell at September 14, 2016 12:44 AM (ZxmMG)

489 Could just as easily be describing himself as well.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 13, 2016 11:12 PM (Pz4pT)

Or TFG. It's not for nothing he's known as President Shit Midas.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 12:44 AM (oqkO3)

490 "Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 12:42 AM (SRKgf) "

He sounds like a solid guy, but I wouldn't trust his cousin Zidwambe. Though he says he's a prince and I'm entitled to 20% of his inheritance if I just get him my back account and SS numbers.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 12:44 AM (kumBu)

491 Don't forget to visit our dear departed Maetenloch at his new digs. I hear he has shag carpets

It's dangerous to shag carpets. You can get rug-burn on your foreskin.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 12:46 AM (jBuUi)

492 >>>Is it possible that technology has changed the value of leisure?

ugh yes. I am addicted to this silly Ewok powered site that tells me things I had already figured out. Would any of you deny being guilty of the same?

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 14, 2016 12:47 AM (dtWKK)

493 #67 I suppose there are all different levels of unhappiness. Mine is, I just don't care anymore. Not entirely - just mostly. I've become passive and fatalistic. I recall hearing about learned apathy in psych when I was in college. Between my husband's death and what seems like 50 years of Barky and progressivism rising, it's understandable.

I feel older than Hillary.

Posted by: Miley's Deplorables at September 14, 2016 12:47 AM (L2UGl)

494 Or TFG. It's not for nothing he's known as President Shit Midas.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Again, my favorite, Beacon Power, financed by 'Stimulus'. They didn't just fail, their 'products' literally exploded.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 12:47 AM (ZxmMG)

495 "I posited that Ace was probably mid-40's or so. His references to the 70's (i.e., Kaboom cereal) were a bit before my time.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 12:44 AM (iyWqN) "

When he talks about Star Wars, the first movie, he seems like he was a kid at an impressionable age - maybe 6 or 7? Remember, he wanted Darth Vader and his parents got him Dark Vooner instead. So that'd make him like 46 or so now, which seems about right.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 12:48 AM (kumBu)

496 People have been talking up London Has Fallen recently. Its now on Netflix.

Posted by: buzzion at September 14, 2016 12:48 AM (bMG0w)

497 I feel older than Hillary.
Posted by: Miley's Deplorables
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That's going around. A general ennui. BUT... dammit, don't go getting the blues. Do something nice for someone. It feels good.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 12:50 AM (ZxmMG)

498 "Would have been one of the all time greats in Center Field if he chose baseball over football. Baseball pays better as well.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 12:42 AM (aDVrz) "

He just needed to learn the craft a bit more. Run better routes in the OF, learn how to read pitchers for stealing bases, develop a better batting eye so he'd strike out less and walk more. That's all stuff that comes with age, and I expect he would have evolved as a player. Perpetual 30/30 threat and gold glover, which is definitely HoF material.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 12:51 AM (kumBu)

499 I briefly fell for that "I'm 29" shtick Ace is pulling. It's like Jack Benny, who was always 39.

The trouble is time is flying so. Ace started this disaster back around 2003 or somewhere along in there, about 15 years ago. He thus would've been 14 when he started, which is just unpossible.

He's just using what we can call Ewokcentric Dynamical Time, a variable unit temporal coordinate, where his age remains 29 on that axis.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 14, 2016 12:52 AM (DW+jj)

500 It's dangerous to shag carpets. You can get rug-burn on your foreskin.

I thought this was the "Let it Burn!" crowd.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 14, 2016 12:52 AM (T/cxb)

501 Indiana had one of the great governors, back when some Democrats were honorable men.

Ed Whitcomb, who authored 'Escape From Corregidor' Hell of a story.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 12:38 AM (ZxmMG)
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I hope you are not referring to Whitcomb as a Democrat.

Posted by: RioBravo at September 14, 2016 12:53 AM (NUqwG)

502 I never tire of seeing Hillary's proto face-plant.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 12:53 AM (ZxmMG)

503 Yo, Horde. Just enough time to say hello and goodbye.

Thanks for the ONT, CBD.

Now I'm O-U-T.

Posted by: The Deplorable Captain Whitebread at September 14, 2016 12:53 AM (rJUlF)

504 495 "I posited that Ace was probably mid-40's or so. His references to the 70's (i.e., Kaboom cereal) were a bit before my time.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 12:44 AM (iyWqN) "

When he talks about Star Wars, the first movie, he seems like he was a kid at an impressionable age - maybe 6 or 7? Remember, he wanted Darth Vader and his parents got him Dark Vooner instead. So that'd make him like 46 or so now, which seems about right.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean

No, you guys are getting it slightly wrong. People are emotionally bonded to the music that was popular when they were 18 years old. It's pretty much a universal fact.

Ace kind of feels that connection to early '80s music, from what I can tell. 1983 (as a guesstimate) minus 18 = 1965 as his birth year. OK, we'll round that up to 1966, which would make him exactly 50. That's my guess.

Kaboom was introduced in 1969, and peaked in popularity in the mid-'70s -- again perfect timing for someone born c. 1966.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 12:53 AM (jBuUi)

505 But there are studies which observe increased risk of diabetes and metabolic syndrome in frequent (cheap, store-bought, freeze-dried) ramen eaters. Also increased all-cause mortality, if memory serves. Selection bias? Who can say?

I still have some bottom of the barrel $0.20/ea Nissin ramen as emergency stores, but I often now prefer (per Sherry's comment) dried egg noodles cooked in chicken broth. Slightly longer and fussier. Not all that much more costly.

Although the damn egg noodles are fortified with iron, and I'm trying to cut down on that, too.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 12:38 AM (noWW6)

Selection bias is the obvious explanation, assuming the observation is correct. (I used to teach my students first to verify that the observation was correct, before wasting time trying to explain it; most such observations turn out to be rubbish.) People who eat a lot of ramen tend to be short of cash, for whatever reason, and more likely to be unhealthy for any number of other reasons.

Fortifying foodstuffs with iron is worthwhile for women who are still menstruating, because they can become iron deficient. It's madness for men, because iron is scavenged very efficiently (for obvious evolutionary reasons), and therefore little is lost in the absence of bleeding.

In that case, eating iron-fortified foods can lead to iron overload, wherein human serum transferrin (which has a dissocation constant for Fe(III) of ca. 1E-20) becomes saturated. Maintaining low activity (in the thermodynamic sense) of Fe(III) is crucial to impeding bacterial growth, which in the body is generally iron-limited (one reason crushing injuries are so prone to infection). For these reasons, saturating human serum transferrin predisposes to bacteremia.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 12:53 AM (SRKgf)

506 sounds like a solid guy, but I wouldn't trust his cousin Zidwambe. Though he says he's a prince and I'm entitled to 20% of his inheritance if I just get him my back account and SS numbers.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 12:44 AM (kumBu)

Ha! Worked in Nigeria, and got to know some folks there. They said they loved to scam so called African Americans. "Ah, your last name! There is an old tale of a lost Prince from the Tribe..."

Posted by: Min at September 14, 2016 12:54 AM (3hIZX)

507 I would give London has Fallen a thumbs down for me. I actually enjoyed Olympus, but this one I was not a fan of.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 14, 2016 12:54 AM (F5hTl)

508 I hope you are not referring to Whitcomb as a Democrat.
Posted by: RioBravo
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*blushes in shame*

Well, that was a major faux pas.

And, it explains a LOT.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 12:55 AM (ZxmMG)

509 But there are studies which observe increased risk of diabetes and metabolic syndrome in frequent (cheap, store-bought, freeze-dried) ramen eaters. Also increased all-cause mortality, if memory serves. Selection bias? Who can say?

I still have some bottom of the barrel $0.20/ea Nissin ramen as emergency stores, but I often now prefer (per Sherry's comment) dried egg noodles cooked in chicken broth. Slightly longer and fussier. Not all that much more costly.

Although the damn egg noodles are fortified with iron, and I'm trying to cut down on that, too.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 12:38 AM (noWW6)

Is that the noodles or is it because they are dumping those flavor packets that come with it into them as well?

Posted by: buzzion at September 14, 2016 12:55 AM (bMG0w)

510 "Again, my favorite, Beacon Power, financed by 'Stimulus'. They didn't just fail, their 'products' literally exploded."

There were a couple of politically connected geothermal energy companies what had sucked down a ton of Obama porkulus money, and then gone bust.

At least the public got a smoking hole in the ground to admire. An absolutely literal example of same.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 12:55 AM (noWW6)

511 Gateway pundit has a recent post up on the DNC document dump.4chan and Reddit are compiling the juicy details.

40 paid for ambassadorships based on the amount of money paid. #1 was the UK. Some chick came in at #12 with the Bahamas (cough BBC cough cough)

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 12:56 AM (aDVrz)

512 505 - Okay, I may just stop eating altogether.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 12:56 AM (ZxmMG)

513 Yeah, what Jay said!

Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot at September 14, 2016 12:56 AM (9iR5/)

514 Posted by: ManWithNoParty, Deplorable and Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 12:12 AM (YLidQ)

Sorry for your loss. We are fortunate to have good men and women come into our lives. Prayers and RIP Stephen Goot. Peace and comfort to family and friends.

Posted by: gracepc at September 14, 2016 12:57 AM (OU4q6)

515 344 Ace is only 29? Good grief, he's the same age as my oldest child!
Posted by: katya the designated driver at September 13, 2016 11:44 PM (WlQGZ)

We're all 29 here. Didn't you get the memo?

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:58 AM (sdi6R)

516 Is that the noodles or is it because they are dumping those flavor packets that come with it into them as well?

Posted by: buzzion at September 14, 2016 12:55 AM (bMG0w)

Just eat the goddamned things, and don't worry about it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 12:58 AM (SRKgf)

517 "Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 12:53 AM (jBuUi) "

I'm not sure how universal that is. I'm most emotionally bonded to the music I listened to in Jr High - 13 or 14-ish.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 12:58 AM (kumBu)

518 512 505 - Okay, I may just stop eating altogether.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 12:56 AM (ZxmMG

cheeseburger Mr. Hammer. Cheeseburgers

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 14, 2016 12:58 AM (voOPb)

519 40 paid for ambassadorships based on the amount of money paid. #1 was the UK. Some chick came in at #12 with the Bahamas (cough BBC cough cough)

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 12:56 AM (aDVrz)

I lol'd.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 14, 2016 12:58 AM (Idu2i)

520 Kaboom was introduced in 1969, and peaked in popularity in the mid-'70s -- again perfect timing for someone born c. 1966.
Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 12:53 AM (jBuUi

You are one brave soul

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 12:58 AM (aDVrz)

521 At least the public got a smoking hole in the ground to admire. An absolutely literal example of same.
Posted by: torquewrench
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Same with Beacon. Their 'energy storage' flywheels were in buried vertical slios... until, BOOM. Smoking hole. Apparently, it was entertaining for the locals.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 12:59 AM (ZxmMG)

522 I'm not sure how universal that is. I'm most emotionally bonded to the music I listened to in Jr High - 13 or 14-ish.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 12:58 AM (kumBu)

I'm bonded to the classic rock I discovered when I went off to college (late 70's).

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 14, 2016 01:00 AM (Idu2i)

523 In many ways, a smoking hole is the story of Obama.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 01:00 AM (ZxmMG)

524 I just find the meme funny because I'm actually 29. I was born in August of 1987. Hey, maybe I have the same birthday as Ace!

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 01:00 AM (kumBu)

525 Iodine fortification of salt was responsible for about a 4 point increase in national IQ, I remember reading, and as much as 15 points in iodine deficient areas of the US.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 14, 2016 01:00 AM (DW+jj)

526 Just eat the goddamned things, and don't worry about it.

As long as it's not the only thing you're eating, you're probably going to be good. Throw in a bacon cheeseburger from time to time. And a steak. And some fruits and vegetables. And some more bacon. And don't forget some 'taters.

Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot at September 14, 2016 01:01 AM (9iR5/)

527 "major faux pas. "

Wasn't that Robert Duvall's character in "Apocolypse Now?"

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 01:01 AM (iyWqN)

528 I'm bonded to the classic rock I discovered when I went off to college (late 70's).
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable

Boom -- there ya go. The "18-year-old music bonding" theory confirmed.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 01:01 AM (jBuUi)

529 cheeseburger Mr. Hammer. Cheeseburgers
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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I've never met one that I didn't enjoy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 01:02 AM (ZxmMG)

530 516 Is that the noodles or is it because they are dumping those flavor packets that come with it into them as well?

Posted by: buzzion at September 14, 2016 12:55 AM (bMG0w)

Just eat the goddamned things, and don't worry about it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 12:58 AM (SRKgf)

Oh, I don't eat it. I'm just wondering if all the "Ramen is bad" stuff isn't necessarily the noodles themselves, and if it has more to do with the flavor packets which can have really high sodium content for instance.

Posted by: buzzion at September 14, 2016 01:02 AM (bMG0w)

531 Sodium, msg, preservatives.
Pretty long list of ingredients. Many I can't pronounce.
It's in there.

Posted by: navybrat at September 14, 2016 01:03 AM (w7KSn)

532 Geez, Buzzion, You're dead. What do you have to worry about sodium content for?

Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot at September 14, 2016 01:04 AM (9iR5/)

533 516 Is that the noodles or is it because they are dumping those flavor packets that come with it into them as well?

Posted by: buzzion at September 14, 2016 12:55 AM (bMG0w)

Just eat the goddamned things, and don't worry about it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 12:58 AM (SRKgf)

Quit pickin on the dead guy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 14, 2016 01:04 AM (voOPb)

534 Ramen is bad

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Simple. Eat less ramen, mo' pho.

Posted by: RioBravo at September 14, 2016 01:04 AM (NUqwG)

535 No offense Buzzion

Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot at September 14, 2016 01:05 AM (9iR5/)

536 Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 12:13 AM (noWW6)

My dad was an engineer and a food lover. My mom was a great cook, but after some illness, she could no longer cook. And she was an instinctual cook -- no recipes, nothing written. She passed. My dad taught himself to cook, like an engineer. By the book, line by line etc. Everything pre measured and laid out. Served him well with the delish oriental meals he made.

He used to grade and comment on the recipes. Only slowly did he deviate, adding or adjusting, with experience. He became an excellent cook -- and baker of our ethnic holiday foods as well.

He had over 200 cookbooks, well marked when he passed away. And I remember him being disappointed if it "didn't look like the picture". Presentation was important too. Very old school.

So take heart. Engineering is creative I think. And so is cooking. I know lots of engineers who became great cooks. And some that did not. But hey...

Posted by: gracepc at September 14, 2016 01:05 AM (OU4q6)

537 "major faux pas. "

Wasn't that Robert Duvall's character in "Apocolypse Now?"
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
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Lt. Col. Bill Killgore

Not to be confused with Cpt. 'Wild Bill' Kelso

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 01:05 AM (ZxmMG)

538 I'd like to ask for prayers for one of the greatest men I ever knew who passed today. I'll even name him, Stephen Goot. I worked for him for 10 years early career, and he taught me everything about being successful in business.

I can only hope I have passed along what he taught me.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, Deplorable and Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 12:12 AM (YLidQ)

My condolences, MWNP.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 01:05 AM (oqkO3)

539 "Boom -- there ya go. The "18-year-old music bonding" theory confirmed.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 01:01 AM (jBuUi) "

But again, it's not universal. I'm more bonded to things I listened to as a kid and a young adult than the things I listened to in HS and college.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 01:05 AM (kumBu)

540 "Just eat the goddamned things, and don't worry about it."

You have a surgical, Shakespearian way with English.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 01:06 AM (iyWqN)

541 But again, it's not universal. I'm more bonded to things I listened to as a kid and a young adult than the things I listened to in HS and college.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 01:05 AM (kumBu)

That's because the stuff you had in high school and college blows major ass. I should know. I'm not much older than you. And I had several classmates really big into OAR and their song "Crazy Game of Poker." And all I could think is God this song sucks.

Posted by: buzzion at September 14, 2016 01:07 AM (bMG0w)

542 It's a curious quirk of the modern urban neurotic to focus on what he eats as a route to salvation or damnation, as the case may be.

Physiology has powerful mechanisms to ensure homeostasis in, e.g., temperature, blood pH, oxygenation, and osmolarity, to name a few. The notion that something you ATE - barring ingesting KCN - would affect that is risible. Drink a lot of water? You pee out a lot of water. Eat a lot of salt? You pee out a lot of salt. You get cold? You shiver. You get hot? You sweat. If that didn't happen, you'd die within minutes.

A while ago I had occasion to get a heart evaluation (for reasons that turned out to be no biggie). A cardiologist looked at my blood work and told me my cholesterol was good, but a little on the high side, and I should cut back on it in my diet.

I asked that since 85% of body cholesterol is endogenous, not dietary, and cholesterol biosynthesis is presumably under feedback control (like virtually everything in physiology), wouldn't cutting back on dietary cholesterol just lead to upregulating cholesterol biosynthesis?

Crickets. Didn't expect that question, didja?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 01:08 AM (SRKgf)

543 My dad taught himself to cook, like an engineer. By the book, line by line etc.
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When Mrs. Hammer met another lady, and mentioned that her husband was an engineer, it turned out that the other lady's husband was also.

She said, "My god! Has he ever sliced a banana for you?! It's excruciating to watch! Every slice exactly vertical, and the slices exactly the same width!"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 01:08 AM (ZxmMG)

544 Maybe people bond with their 18 year old musical tastes because it's when they "break away" from their folks. I never really broke away - my dad liked classic rock, I like classic rock. I got more heavily into prog than he ever did, so I did a prog rock show for college radio - but I'm not really 'emotionally' bonded to, say, "Tales from Topographic Oceans."

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 01:09 AM (kumBu)

545 "Lt. Col. Bill Killgore

Not to be confused with Cpt. 'Wild Bill' Kelso"

Thank you. I was off.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 01:09 AM (iyWqN)

546 Ramen, as noodles, are completely neutral as a foodstuff. Like eating flour, or a spoonful of rice or something.

It's what you put in the ramen broth that determines its healthiness/unhealthiness quotient.

As buzzion noted, the soup-flavor packets are not only very salty, but also packed with MSG and often other weird chemicals. If you don't add anything to the soup, you're drinking some awful stuff.

But when I make ramen, I buy fancy=schmancy organic noodle packets that cost three times as much (i.e. 99 cents as opposed to three for a dollar), and throw away the flavor packets, and fill the soup broth with vegetables and so forth. So it ends up being healthy, not unhealthy. And the noodles themselves had nothing to do with it.

Same aplies to the cuirrent fad of SS trendy ramen joints popualr with SF hipsters, where a bowl of ramen will set you back $16 or more. Except it's got wagyu beef, organic burdock, etc.etc., and is pretty heathy for you.

And finally, yes, the "self-selection bias" plays a HUGE role in this case. People who buy and eat the cheapo ramen tend to be homeless people or extremely poor people. Whose health and medical care are atrocious, usually.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 01:09 AM (jBuUi)

547 Iodine fortification of salt was responsible for about a 4 point increase in national IQ, I remember reading, and as much as 15 points in iodine deficient areas of the US.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 14, 2016 01:00 AM (DW+jj)

Look up the history of Lugol's solution 5% Iodine (from 1829 to 1949 or so). I'm currently experimenting with it to hopefully get off lifelong heart meds.

Posted by: Min at September 14, 2016 01:09 AM (3hIZX)

548 But again, it's not universal. I'm more bonded
to things I listened to as a kid and a young adult than the things I
listened to in HS and college.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 01:05 AM (kumBu)
I had a really eclectic taste in music as a teen. I bought the Victory At Sea records because I really liked the orchestral stuff. Porgy and Bess, Rhapsody in Blue, and Glenn Miller. But I also liked Led Zepplin, Beatles, Jimmy Hendrix, CSN, and the Stones. Plus other rock bands.

Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot at September 14, 2016 01:10 AM (9iR5/)

549 533 516 Is that the noodles or is it because they are dumping those flavor packets that come with it into them as well?

Posted by: buzzion at September 14, 2016 12:55 AM (bMG0w)

Just eat the goddamned things, and don't worry about it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 12:58 AM (SRKgf)

Quit pickin on the dead guy
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 14, 2016 01:04 AM (voOPb)

Yet, he would be alive today if he added Bacon Bits to his Ramen diet.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 01:11 AM (aDVrz)

550 "That's because the stuff you had in high school and college blows major ass. I should know. I'm not much older than you. And I had several classmates really big into OAR and their song "Crazy Game of Poker." And all I could think is God this song sucks.

Posted by: buzzion at September 14, 2016 01:07 AM (bMG0w) "

Most of the people here would probably think that the stuff I like from the mid to late 90's also sucks ass, though. But I agree, rock music was going through a rough spell when I was in HS (2002-2006).

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 01:12 AM (kumBu)

551 MWNP - Condolences, and prayers.

I lost a classmate Sunday. Cancer. It was only diagnosed a week or two before. Two days after the terminal diagnosis, his wife had a heart attack.

Life isn't always easy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 01:12 AM (ZxmMG)

552 Increasing iodine too fast is problematic, too, I understand, but I don't know the details. There's a problem with too high of dose, especially with iodine deficient individuals.

I think I remember reading that we're trending back toward iodine deficiency in the US, although not as bad as it used to be before they discovered the mechanism.

Most people get it from iodized salt, and if they tell you to cut out salt, you cut out your source of supplemental iodine.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 14, 2016 01:13 AM (DW+jj)

553 rickl, I can absolutely recommend this book:

https://www.amazon.com/How-Cook-Everything-Basics-Food/dp/0470528060

It teaches you how to cook everything, it really does, and it does so very patiently and with detailed instructions, and pictures. get the book, you won't regret it. And this is coming from a guy who burns meat.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 01:13 AM (uAvJJ)

554 Oh, I don't eat it. I'm just wondering if all the "Ramen is bad" stuff isn't necessarily the noodles themselves, and if it has more to do with the flavor packets which can have really high sodium content for instance.

Posted by: buzzion at September 14, 2016 01:02 AM (bMG0w)

I suspect it has more to do with psychiatry than physiology.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 01:14 AM (SRKgf)

555 I dunno, some one likely already posted this.
A series of vids by a doc regarding Hill's condition.
Pretty thorough.

http://tinyurl.com/zbvf7g9

Posted by: navybrat at September 14, 2016 01:17 AM (w7KSn)

556 And I just ordered myself some iodine, let's see if this helps.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 01:17 AM (uAvJJ)

557 rickl, listen to chemjeff. This is a man who can take a good piece of beef and turn it into charcoal. It just seems to come natural to him, and that confuses me. I love to grill, and every piece of meat I cook over an open fire comes out really tasty. I must have more Neanderthal genes than chemjeff.

Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot at September 14, 2016 01:18 AM (9iR5/)

558 Oh, has anyone decoded the Q-code at the top of the ONT? I'd have to build something to read it, then tear it apart and sanitize the components -- so I haven't.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 13, 2016 11:44 PM (EzgxV)

It's a warning of something far more evil than even the Necronomicon takes note of...

Posted by: Hat al-Hazred at September 14, 2016 01:18 AM (vBeA5)

559 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 01:08 AM (ZxmMG)

Too funny! And so true. I also had a partner for a good many years who was some kind of satellite software engineer former AF, current Lockheed. I had no idea what language he spoke. Divorced. Could not cook. Got better over the years.

But, he made fabulous pecan pies (scratch pie crusts like his grandmother taught him) every Thanksgiving that were excruciatingly precise and divine. So, there you have it.

Posted by: gracepc at September 14, 2016 01:19 AM (OU4q6)

560 Maybe ace made a really bitchin 'Summer of 83' mix-tape for a girl he had a crush on as a wee 13 year old, and though she broke his heart, he'll always cherish those songs.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 01:20 AM (kumBu)

561 IIRC, they used to stockpile Iodine pills for distribution to us plebes in case of nuclear war. If you weren't fatally overdosed with radiation, it would alleviate some of the symptoms.

Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot at September 14, 2016 01:20 AM (9iR5/)

562 Again, my favorite, Beacon Power, financed by 'Stimulus'. They didn't just fail, their 'products' literally exploded.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 12:47 AM (ZxmMG)

If I were Donald Trump, I would tell one of my campaign employees, "Go find a failing wind turbine project, one that can be bought for little more than scrap value, and buy it. Then go find a nearby landowner couple who are distressed by the presence of the turbines." Then I show to meet the nice country people, so put upon by the rent-seeking cronies of Hill and Obama. "Here, folks (handing them a red box), push this button." She pushes the button, and 400 pounds of dynamite topple the nearest wind turbine into a heap of rubble. "Feels good, doesn't, it ma'am? Well, a Trump administration will put Americans back to work. Those 'coal people' that Bill Clinton bragged about putting out of work will get their jobs back, and these ugly, eagle-maiming monstrosities will be torn down, and the skyline restored."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 01:21 AM (oqkO3)

563 IIRC, they used to stockpile Iodine pills for distribution to us plebes in case of nuclear war. If you weren't fatally overdosed with radiation, it would alleviate some of the symptoms.
Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot
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A good thing to keep on hand if you live downwind from a Nuke station.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 01:21 AM (ZxmMG)

564 I decoded that Q-code, and had a case of acute acquired erectile dysfunction syndrome.

Had to go look at some, um, "educational videos" to cure it.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 14, 2016 01:22 AM (DW+jj)

565 " And I just ordered myself some iodine, let's see if this helps."

For what?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 01:22 AM (iyWqN)

566 Mike, I lived downrange from Rocky Flats.

Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot at September 14, 2016 01:22 AM (9iR5/)

567 Well from what I understand, iodine can also help with weight loss. So I will try a little bit.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 01:23 AM (uAvJJ)

568 yeah, the QR Code was a mean trick.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 01:23 AM (uAvJJ)

569 Hat al-Hazred tin eye showed the fat chick comedian being pulled on a water board. It looked like, titled worst beach bodies, or something.

bar code app says, "don't click you'll be sorry."

And that makes sense to me.

Posted by: bour3 at September 14, 2016 01:23 AM (cyVTQ)

570 " And I just ordered myself some iodine, let's see if this helps."

For what?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
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Works great for skinned knees, my mamma always said.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 01:24 AM (ZxmMG)

571 "Maintaining low activity (in the thermodynamic sense) of Fe(III) is crucial to impeding bacterial growth"

And our bodies have amazingly intricate biochemical mechanisms specifically designed to sequester iron away from where invasive bacteria can't get to the stuff. If not, we'd be in real trouble, right quick.

On the whole idea of deliberately fortifying foods with iron, per the comment from publius about iodine fortification, a lot of this stuff dates back to mid-twentieth-century public health efforts.

An era when, thanks to the Great Depression immediately preceding, a lot of the U.S. population genuinely were short on certain dietarily obtained vitamins and minerals.

Enthusiastic central planners in Big Government proceeded to go way overboard on the fortification concept. Tell me if you've heard this one.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 01:24 AM (noWW6)

572 For those of you who don't know, Rocky Flats built the plutonium pits for hydrogen bombs. They closed the facility, and it took them twenty years to clean it up. It's an "open space" now. But they won't allow anyone to build on it. Oh well, it's one less nuke aimed at the Denver area.

Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot at September 14, 2016 01:25 AM (9iR5/)

573 Increasing iodine too fast is problematic, too, I understand, but I don't know the details. There's a problem with too high of dose, especially with iodine deficient individuals.

I think I remember reading that we're trending back toward iodine deficiency in the US, although not as bad as it used to be before they discovered the mechanism.

Most people get it from iodized salt, and if they tell you to cut out salt, you cut out your source of supplemental iodine.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 14, 2016 01:13 AM (DW+jj)

All correct, sir.

Iodine was used in bread until 1960's, where one slice supplied RDA as well, until it was replaced with bromine. Chlorine, fluorine are other halines that compete with receptors in your body. With their relative abundance, there is a rise in sub-clinical hypothyroidism.

Posted by: Min at September 14, 2016 01:25 AM (3hIZX)

574 yeah, it is a little bit frightening to think that companies are fortifying food for nutrients based on 60-year-old science enforced by 60-year-old rules that were never updated

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 01:26 AM (uAvJJ)

575 I suspect it has more to do with psychiatry than physiology.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 01:14 AM (SRKgf)

It has to do with the masters of the universe looking down their nose at one of the staple foods of broke-ass college students and hobos, and trying to come up with a pretext to outlaw it.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 14, 2016 01:26 AM (J+mig)

576 Bromine is used in making bread? Really?

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 01:27 AM (uAvJJ)

577 "yeah, it is a little bit frightening to think that companies are fortifying food for nutrients based on 60-year-old science enforced by 60-year-old rules that were never updated

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 01:26 AM (uAvJJ) "

Indeed, the only 60 year old nutritional science we seem to have junked is cigarette related. Smoke a Lucky after every meal - it's perfect for your T-zone!

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 01:27 AM (kumBu)

578 THe iodine salt "innoculation" protects the body from absorbing too much radiaoctive iodine-131, a byproduct of nyoookular shit. It simply saturates the thyroid with iodine, preventing it from absorbing the radioactive stuff.

It only protects against your thyroid absorbing the radioactive iodine, nothing else.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 14, 2016 01:28 AM (DW+jj)

579 " Bromine is used in making bread? Really?

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 01:27 AM (uAvJJ) "

I do not! Oh, wait, bromine...my bad.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 01:28 AM (kumBu)

580 "IIRC, they used to stockpile Iodine pills for distribution to us plebes
in case of nuclear war. If you weren't fatally overdosed with radiation,
it would alleviate some of the symptoms."

Sadly, the only thing that iodine supplements will do is reduce the risk of thyroid cancer, from the radioisotope iodine-131 being snorked up into the thyroid gland proper, which is normally avid to take up anything that looks like iodine.

I don't know of any other bioradiological effects that the stuff would alleviate. Other than the psychological effect of radiophobic panic.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 01:28 AM (noWW6)

581 But Cato, you want hobo's to be eating good so that when we grill them they will taste good and their coats will be full and shiny.

Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot at September 14, 2016 01:29 AM (9iR5/)

582 Oh, just read about potassium bromate used to bleach flour. Wow. I didn't realize that.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 01:29 AM (uAvJJ)

583 "It only protects against your thyroid absorbing the radioactive iodine, nothing else. "

So, basically, you protect your thyroid but everything else is fall-out worthy.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 01:31 AM (iyWqN)

584 So, basically, you protect your thyroid but everything else is fall-out worthy.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
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Can't have it all.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 01:33 AM (ZxmMG)

585 Awesome that so many others do not buy into this bullsh*t claim that ace is only 29. I was afraid I might get banned for my blasphemy.

In his thread about our worst fears and nightmares, he recounted a dream he had, and said he had not had it in 35 years. He made the lame excuse that, "it was a confused dream, so the details were incorrect" yeah, yeah whatever.

I pay him this compliment: he sounds too wise to be a mere 29 year old. He is as wise as a Jew who has attained the age of 40 and is eligible to study Kabbalah. I have a secret wish that some day she will come out of the closet as transgendered. She really overdoes the "macho" thing, which indicates that she is in denial about her sexual identity. Ace has the soul of a woman.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 14, 2016 01:33 AM (ZKlDy)

586 So, basically, you protect your thyroid but everything else is fall-out worthy.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 01:31 AM (iyWqN)
Well, from what I understand, your thyroid is kinda like the head honcho of the hormone producers and regulators in the body. So it is important to protect the head honcho. But still. It will take more than iodine to get you through a nuclear bomb, that is for sure.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 01:33 AM (uAvJJ)

587 Eugenics isn't at all unique to the leftwing.

Plenty of libertarians still love it and will admit to it being their primary reason for their support of abortion. "If we ban abortion all those kids are going to end up on welfare."

I've seen quite a few conservatives take a supportive position as well: "Idiocracy isn't a comedy, it's a documentary and a warning".

The left may be the ones who still openly idolize people like Sanger, but there's definitely a streak across the political spectrum that supports the concept.

Posted by: Sjg at September 14, 2016 01:33 AM (gDSJf)

588 "Increasing iodine too fast is problematic, too, I understand, but I
don't know the details. There's a problem with too high of dose,
especially with iodine deficient individuals."

I think one issue is with Hashimoto's thyroiditis, which is an autoimmune disorder of the thyroid, normally subtle and often missed or misdiagnosed in a clinical setting, but it often flares hard if people are given (or exposed to) additional iodine.

There's supposed to be an antibody test.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 01:34 AM (noWW6)

589 Yeah, Ace is at least in his mid- to late-30's. He is not 29. There is a video somewhere of him speaking at a CPAC in 2007 or so. He looks in his mid-20's or so in that video. And yes he is full of hair and Ewok-worthy.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 01:35 AM (uAvJJ)

590 A while ago I had occasion to get a heart evaluation (for reasons that turned out to be no biggie). A cardiologist looked at my blood work and told me my cholesterol was good, but a little on the high side, and I should cut back on it in my diet.

I asked that since 85% of body cholesterol is endogenous, not dietary, and cholesterol biosynthesis is presumably under feedback control (like virtually everything in physiology), wouldn't cutting back on dietary cholesterol just lead to upregulating cholesterol biosynthesis?

Crickets. Didn't expect that question, didja?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

A study came out about 15 or 20 years ago which basically confirmed everything you just said and also proved that high cholesterol had almost nothing to do with diet but instead was perfectly correlated with frequency of showering with soap. Seriously.

The hypothesis to explain the perfect correlation went like this:

Your skin is by far your largest bodily organ. So there's a lot of it. (Skin, that is.) And ALL your skin has sebaceous glands which excretes the oily substance know as "sebum" (responsible for fingerprints) which is what keeps your skin supple and smooth. Without sebum, your skin would very quickly dry out and crack and allow in infections and you'd be dead pretty soon. So sebum is essential for life.

For a couple million years, there was no real way for humans to remove sebum from their skin. (And no need to.) And so it never was removed. If some wore off, you liver cranked out some fatty stuff and sent it to the skin via the bloodstream in the form of cholesterol for it to be excreted by the sebaceous glands.

But the amount of cholesterol transported in the blood at any given moment was generally pretty small, so "high blood cholesterol" was rarely ever a problem.

But in the 19th century, suddenly two things became commonplace -- things which up until then had been rarities (or in some cultures entirely absent): soap, and hot running water for showers. And social mores changed to adapt to these two new inventions: It became de rigueur to shower with soap frequently, when just a short time earlier in history it was almost unknown behavior.

What is soap? An abrasive chemical compound whose very purpose is to dissolve and remove all the stinky sebum from your skin. So when you take a hot shower or bath with soap, your sebum gets all washed off, and your liver absolutely freaks out and goes into overdrive once it realizes that you have no sebum to protect your skin anymore. But as noted above, there's so, so much skin, so a massive overdose of cholesterol goes into the bloodstream to help get it to the sebaceous glands.

But then -- horrors!! -- the foolish human 24 hours later get out the soap and washes it all off again!

Repeat every day and what you get is chronic high blood cholesterol.

This was pretty much conclusively proven by studying two groups: Canadian eskimos living like their ancestors, who survived for most of the winter eating only walrus blubber and nothing else, which is basically the highest cholesterol-containing food in existence. And YET -- the eskimos all had low or normal blood cholesterol levels. Oh, and did I mention -- they had no running water and had never heard of soap?

Contrast that with a cohort of modern urban professionals with good jobs and who "watched their diets" and only ate low-cholesterol foods. Incomprehensibly, they tended to have high blood-cholesterol despite consuming almost no cholesterol. And the final detail of course -- they all showered daily or twice a day.

Ooops! Decades of unquestioned scientific wisdom completely overturned.

As you might imagine, this study and its unavoidable conclusions was not very popular. And so it was generally poo-poohed and swept under the rug.

But the conclusion for everyone out there with high blood cholesterol: Cut back on the number of soapy showers and baths you take and I guarantee you blood numbers will improve.

Interestingly, showering without soap doesn't have the same effect, because the sebum can repel the water and isn't so easily washed off by water alone. SO if you must shower, forego soap.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 01:35 AM (jBuUi)

591 So, basically, you protect your thyroid but everything else is fall-out worthy.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 01:31 AM (iyWqN)

But protecting against absorbing I-131 is in itself a worthy effort. Because it's so short-lived, it radiates intensely. So you don't want a mess of really "hot" ions in your body.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 01:35 AM (oqkO3)

592 Torque, no matter what they had, we'd have all been fooked anyway. Stapelton airport had 10,000 foot runways, enough for B-52's. We lived less than a mile from the airport, we would have been charcoal. No amount of iodine would have fixed that.
In fact, during the Cuban Missile Crises, my school was six blocks away. One afternoon, the air raid sirens went off, by mistake it was discovered later. We were grades 1 through 6, but we could see the fear in the eyes of the teachers. All of us kids were freaked. We knew that the old duck and cover drills were worthless and that we were all about to die. Scary shit for an 11 year old.

Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot at September 14, 2016 01:35 AM (9iR5/)

593 "But still. It will take more than iodine to get you through a nuclear bomb, that is for sure."

Lead sheet for 72 hours? I'm seriously asking.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 01:36 AM (iyWqN)

594 Well, your thyroid sort of goes crazy taking up iodine, and concentrates it. I-131 is the only fallout product that is directly used by the body. So, if I-131 gets in the air, your thyroid tends to concentrate it, greatly increasing the effects of the radiation from its decay inside your body.

There are other things that can sort of mimic elements used by the body and end up getting concentrated too. The infamous Strontium-90 is one. It mimics calcium and gets concentrated in the bones. Caesium radioisotopes are another problematic one, being close to potassium.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 14, 2016 01:36 AM (DW+jj)

595 I want to install a LazyBoy on that robotic tractor and have it drive me around town. Redneck Tesla!

Posted by: sinalco the deplorable powering through at September 14, 2016 01:37 AM (yODqO)

596 "IIRC, they used to stockpile Iodine pills for distribution to us plebes
in case of nuclear war. If you weren't fatally overdosed with radiation,
it would alleviate some of the symptoms."

Russians swear by large amounts of vodka as a palliative against radiation poisoning. They certainly have a track record in that department. I wouldn't even begin to postulate a mechanism.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 01:37 AM (noWW6)

597 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt87bLX7m_o

Posted by: cthulhu at September 14, 2016 01:38 AM (EzgxV)

598 Lead sheet for 72 hours? I'm seriously asking.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 01:36 AM (iyWqN)
I don't know.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 01:38 AM (uAvJJ)

599 I-131 is the only fallout product that is directly used by the body.

that's not true, Sr-90 is also used, as a substitute for Ca in your bones

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 01:38 AM (uAvJJ)

600 585 Awesome that so many others do not buy into this bullsh*t claim that ace is only 29. I was afraid I might get banned for my blasphemy.

You do know that he's been doing that joke for several years. Its not a regular joke but its one he has used previously.

Posted by: buzzion at September 14, 2016 01:40 AM (bMG0w)

601 chemjeff, did you me say that about Strontium-90 and Caesium in the next paragraph?

What I meant was Iodine is directly used. The others are close enough to something that is used that they can be concentrated, but Iodine is the one that is the actual thing, the actual element the body is looking to concentrate.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 14, 2016 01:40 AM (DW+jj)

602 ok I missed that, sorry, you are right publius

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 01:42 AM (uAvJJ)

603 "Horrible for you." That's crap. Why? Horseshit nutrition nostrums are our answer to horseshit patent medicines of the 19th century. I doubt very much that there's any fundamental difference between ramen and "homemade noodles." Noodles are noodles, i.e., carbohydrates. To be clear, by carbohydrates I mean (CH2O)n oligomers. (Btw, ask any layman babbling about "carbohydrates" what a carbohydrate actually is, if you would like a good laugh.)

As a chemist, I used to go wild over people babbling about how, e.g., vitamin C from rose hips (whatever those are) was so much better than vitamin C from rose dicks, which in turn was so much better than "synthetic" vitamin C. Vitamin C is vitamin C is vitamin C, totally independent of origin. If there's any difference between sources, then one of them is not pure.

So please don't say shit like that without sound empirical (i.e., experimental) evidence to back it up. Also, "they" - viz., biomedical researchers - are the worst scientists in existence, are totally overwhelmed by their subject, and are only too happy to ascribe any contradictory empirical results to "biological variation." The truth is they're shitty scientists by and large. Hence X (where X is, e.g., salt, eggs) is "bad for you," "no, it's good for you," "no, it's bad for you," "no, it's good for you" admonitions.

Bottom line: they don't fucking know, and are too incompetent at research to generate any results worthy of publication, much less credence. In real, no shit sciences, publishing something later proven to be wrong means your career is over.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 12:36 AM (SRKgf)

Most doctors don't know jack s**t about biochemistry.

Posted by: The Biochemical Hat at September 14, 2016 01:42 AM (vBeA5)

604 Oh, and I forgot to mention: The ailments associated with high blood cholesterol only became commonplace at the exact moment in history when showering with hot water and soap became commonplace. So there's historical correlation too.

And cross-cultural studies showed that wherever there was little running water and little social awareness of soap (i.e. in primitive tribal areas), there was almost never high blood-cholesterol problems in the population -- even if they ate a ton of cholesterol-y foods. (I.e. it wasn't just Eskimos. I cited them above because they were the most extreme and noteworthy example.) Whereas the cleanliness-obsessed Western nations tended to have high blood-chilesterol by comparison. So there was cross-cultural social correlation too.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 01:42 AM (jBuUi)

605 I did not think that Cs could mimic K in the body. You mean for purposes of ion transport across cell membranes?

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 01:43 AM (uAvJJ)

606 > Well, from what I understand, your thyroid is kinda like the head honcho of the hormone producers and regulators in the body. So it is important to protect the head honcho.

Yep. In the last month, I've gone from 4 RX cardio drugs daily to 1 (at half dose, once every 2 days). Lugol 5% drops, increased slowly to 5 drops (35 mg) daily. Docs don't know yet, but pulse and np9 are good, and weight is dropping.

Posted by: Min at September 14, 2016 01:43 AM (3hIZX)

607 One of the world's earliest and nastiest nuclear reactor casualties was a U.S. Army prototype up in Idaho. Small unit but very hot. The core produced a steam explosion due to still controversial causes, blew the top off the vessel, killed all three men standing watch.

The only way at the time to clear out the wreckage inside the heavily irradiated building was to send in young and dumb military men on a strict stopwatch. You go in when told, you work rapidly till you hear the bell, you come out, you never go back inside.

Among those thus detailed? The young Jimmy Carter.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 01:44 AM (noWW6)

608 Everything all went blooey -- g'night.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 14, 2016 01:45 AM (EzgxV)

609 So, basically, you protect your thyroid but everything else is fall-out worthy.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 01:31 AM (iyWqN)

But protecting against absorbing I-131 is in itself a worthy effort. Because it's so short-lived, it radiates intensely. So you don't want a mess of really "hot" ions in your body.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 01:35 AM (oqkO3)

Since iodine concentrates so much at one point in the body, it does much more damage than many other isotopes which are either more broadly distributed, or just flushed out of the body efficiently (e.g. Tc and U).

Posted by: The Nukular Hat at September 14, 2016 01:47 AM (vBeA5)

610 Among those thus detailed? The young Jimmy Carter.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 01:44 AM (noWW6)
well, that does explain a lot

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 01:47 AM (uAvJJ)

611 Someone on "The Donald" reddit is saying that they are 24-36 hours ahead of the MSM.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 14, 2016 01:47 AM (VdICR)

612 that's not true, Sr-90 is also used, as a substitute for Ca in your bones

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 01:38 AM (uAvJJ)

But about the only way to absorb it is by ingestion as food, or dissolved in water. Back in the days of the nuclear fallout scare due to above-ground nuclear testing, Sr-90 was said to get into milk. Cows would eat fallout-dusted grass, and corporate the Sr-90 into the calcium sites in the milk proteins, or wherever in milk the calcium resides.

Humans don't graze. Avoid breathing airborne dust, and you avoid most of the fallout. Foods that have a known mechanism for concentrating radioisotopes can be tested. Wave a fricken Geiger counter over the milk jug. (and yes, I know, in practice, you'd bulk-test the milk with a recording scintillometer or suchlike)

Dosing oneself with iodine blocks one of the primary routes by which your body can uptake one of the hottest constituents of fallout. So it offers significant protection.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 01:48 AM (oqkO3)

613 Yep. In the last month, I've gone from 4 RX cardio
drugs daily to 1 (at half dose, once every 2 days). Lugol 5% drops,
increased slowly to 5 drops (35 mg) daily. Docs don't know yet, but
pulse and np9 are good, and weight is dropping.

Posted by: Min at September 14, 2016 01:43 AM (3hIZX)
Well I just ordered some Lugol's 2% solution. So we will see what happens. The risk of consuming too much iodine I think is low as long as you aren't just munching on pure crystals of the stuff.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 01:49 AM (uAvJJ)

614 As buzzion noted, the soup-flavor packets are not only very salty, but also packed with MSG and often other weird chemicals. If you don't add anything to the soup, you're drinking some awful stuff.

MSG. What is MSG? It's monosodium glutamate, the monosodium salt of glutamic acid, one of the most abundant amino acids, and perfectly "natural."

As a carboxylic acid, glutamic acid has a first acid dissociation constant of about 4, which means it is deprotonated at physiological pH (i.e., ca. 7). (The other carboxyl group of glutamic acid exists as a zwitterion with the amino group of glutamic acid, i.e., it undergoes an internal protonation/ deprotonation in which the acidic carboxyl group protonates the basic amino group).

So we're talking about the sodium salt of a widespread naturally-occurring amino acid. But ... but ... what about the sodium bit? Well, what salt would you prefer? The potassium salt? The calcium salt? Because at physiological pH, it exists the salt of SOMETHING. (Anionic species only float around without counterions in interstellar space.) Shall we drop a load in our panties over which salt we're talking about?

Of course, in aqueous solution, anions and cations largely go their separate ways, the electrostatics being dealt with solvation with water molecules. (Which is why salt solutions conduct electricity, per Arrhenius.)

Now suppose the sodium concentration (a sloppy way of saying the osmolarity) in the blood starts getting too high. What happens? The kidneys start pissing out salt. (After playing baseball in 100 degree temperatures, when I come home I pee out molasses it seems.)

And, of course, that applies to salt itself as well. Consider the converse: if you drink a pint or two of water, what happens? Do you bloat from the low osmolarity of your blood? No. Of course not. You whiz like a racehorse until you get rid of the excess water, right? Homeostasis in action. The kidneys exist in large part to let one pee out salts or water as necessary to maintain osmolar homeostasis.

Long story short, MSG is NOT a "weird chemical." There is no evidence of "awful stuff," as far as I'm aware. Until and unless I see substantive scientific - not bullshit - evidence for such, I dismiss the whole thing as yet another manifestation of the parlous state of science education in this country.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 01:50 AM (SRKgf)

615 Your thyroid, concentrating iodine, would end up concentrating radiation, IIRC. It's the part of the body uniquely vulnerable to high ambient radiation.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 14, 2016 01:51 AM (VdICR)

616 Cs radioisotopes are bad because the compounds it forms are water soluble.

Jeff, I don't the details of why, but it said it behaves "biologically similar" to K and rubidium.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 14, 2016 01:52 AM (DW+jj)

617 Yeah, maximum upper limit for iodine is something like 1.1 mg which is a lot.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 01:52 AM (uAvJJ)

618 I should clarify: chemists use the term "salt" to refer to all compounds that comprises an anion and a cation (i.e., a positively- and a negatively-charged species. Sodium chloride is an example (Na+ Cl-), but we use the term generically to refer to all such compounds, as well as specifically to refer to NaCl.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 01:53 AM (SRKgf)

619 Jeff, I don't the details of why, but it said it behaves "biologically similar" to K and rubidium.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 14, 2016 01:52 AM (DW+jj)

All alkali metal cations.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 01:54 AM (SRKgf)

620 Look at it this way. If you are generally unprotected within one mile of a thermonuclear detonation, you're dead. Mostly from thermal and blast shock injuries. Thermal and radiation type injuries will go out to about two miles. Depending on the type of device, elevation, height of detonation, and other factors, out to about five miles and you're still in trouble. I know that Denver had something like seven one megaton devices aimed at it when I was a kid. One for the Capital building, one for Rocky Flats, one for Lowry AFB (which was active when I was young), one for the Rocky Mountain Arsenal (Chemical Weapons site), one for Stapelton, (which made no sense to me because they were geographically close), one for the Federal Center, and one for the Lockheed Martin facility where they were building Titan and Atlas rockets. That's just the Denver area. Other cities, YMMV.

Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot at September 14, 2016 01:54 AM (9iR5/)

621 Well, Rb is not used by the body at all, and as far as I know, the major role of K in the body is ion transport. But ion transport depends on the size of the ion and Cs is a lot bigger than K so it surprises me to think that Cs could mimic K in that context. But I admit that I am not a biochemist so maybe it can in some other way.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 01:54 AM (uAvJJ)

622 Missing the Maet as much as the next moron but with the most recent post being 8/16/16 at his new digs, sumthin tells me he's not all that into it?

Posted by: Smitteh at September 14, 2016 01:55 AM (g9d8D)

623 Also, after Chernobyl, really the only statistically discernible public health effect among the local general population was an uptick in thyroid cancer from I-131.

A few thousand additional cases above what would normally have been expected. Concentrated in pediatric and adolescent patients. (131 ain't long lived.)

Thyroid cancer is one of the most survivable forms of cancer. You do need to have the cancerous gland taken out, but you can do fine without it in a modern environment.

The bitch is that even these might have been averted. The Soviet government had radioprophylaxis available and ready to go, but the Communist apparatchiks refused to release it to the public because to do so would make evident the fact of their having messed up hugely.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 01:57 AM (noWW6)

624 The entire Chernobyl disaster could have been averted. It was caused by some Soviet scientist dicking around with a nuclear reactor with the safeties off. And because of that lots of people lost their lives. It was pretty awful.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 01:58 AM (uAvJJ)

625 Holy motherfucking shit!

This financial dump is turning out to be a OZ prison rape for the DNC and others.

https://m.reddit.com/r/The_Donald

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 01:58 AM (aDVrz)

626 Long story short, MSG is NOT a "weird chemical." There is no evidence of "awful stuff," as far as I'm aware. Until and unless I see substantive scientific - not bullshit - evidence for such, I dismiss the whole thing as yet another manifestation of the parlous state of science education in this country.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

I didn't mean to imply that MSG is a weird chemical -- only that the packets cain three things:
1. Salt
2. MSG
3. other chemicals that are weird.

Although, I am one of those people who do have a distinct physical reaction to consuming MSG -- flushed face, buzzing in the ears, sometimes a headache. I'm a food testing consultant so I have in fact done blind taste tests for soup packets that did and/or did not contain MSG, and without being told which ingredients were in which, I could easily and with unerring accuracy identify which ones contained MSG. So my "sensitivity" to it -- and I would wager many people's self-reported sensitivity to it -- is not merely a "social construct" or mass hysteria. Something about sodium glutamates gives some people physical symptoms when consumed. Although the exact mechanism of what might be causing it is far beyond my ken.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 01:59 AM (jBuUi)

627 Direct better link.

https://m.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/52oek0/its_gone_from_a_leak_to_an_all_out_flood/

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 01:59 AM (aDVrz)

628 "one for Stapelton, (which made no sense to me because they were geographically close)"

Ivan does not have a cognate word for "ceasefire" in his language. Nor, apparently, one for "overkill".

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 02:01 AM (noWW6)

629 Dosing oneself with iodine blocks one of the primary routes by which your body can uptake one of the hottest constituents of fallout. So it offers significant protection.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 01:48 AM (oqkO3)

It doesn't actually block it, it just dilutes out the radioisotope. Suppose the body were ordinarily to take up 1000 units of iodine. If the body should be exposed to a high concentration of I-131, there will be a high concentration of I-131 in the thyroid. If, on the other hand, there's a shitload of iodine in the body, and most of it is non-radioactive, the proportion of I-131 in the thyroid will be much less.

Ironically, as a member of the Marine Corps test unit, my father was exposed to one of the earliest test A-bomb explosions in the 1950s, and one of my earliest memories is waiting outside the hospital for the results of his thyroidectomy later.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 02:01 AM (SRKgf)

630 Well, Rb is not used by the body at all, and as far as I know, the major role of K in the body is ion transport. But ion transport depends on the size of the ion and Cs is a lot bigger than K so it surprises me to think that Cs could mimic K in that context. But I admit that I am not a biochemist so maybe it can in some other way.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 01:54 AM (uAvJJ)

Don't dwell so much on what a given radioisotope does within the body, rather consider how it enters the body. I-131 is one of the few that can be inhaled as a vapor. Most of the other nasties would be distributed as dust. Avoid getting the dust in your lungs, or into your food, and avoid sleeping in a dusty room, and you will avoid the radiation. And avoid secondary contamination by eating food from sources contaminated by fallout, e.g. the Sr-90 in cows' milk.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 02:01 AM (oqkO3)

631 Yeah, maximum upper limit for iodine is something like 1.1 mg which is a lot.
Posted by: chemjeff

According to some. However, the Japanese, with lowest incidences of thyroidism and cancers, consume 12 mg daily. Pre WW2 America, it was common for 200 to 300 mg daily for therapy. I' m working towards 50mg daily dosage, for an extended period.

Posted by: Min at September 14, 2016 02:02 AM (3hIZX)

632 I scored in the 99% percentile on my ASFAB. You guys can make me feel a little dumb fairly often. Especially after I drop teh knowledge that I poorly remember.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 14, 2016 02:02 AM (VdICR)

633 HOWDY HELLO HI HOWAREY'ALL?

Don't forget to visit our dear departed Maetenloch at his new digs.

I have, but he seems to have burned out the middle of last month. I finally got around to subscribing to the site today, so if the corpse ever twitches again, I'll get a newsfeed notice.

Any new memes or unforgettable moments in the 600+ comments so far that I'm not going to read tonight?

Posted by: mindful webworker - deep lorable at September 14, 2016 02:02 AM (Bpc14)

634 Yeah, Chernobyl was a clusterf*ck just waiting to happen. The Soviet style of control precipitated that disaster. One.Guy. caused that to happen. I think he was a New Soviet Man.

Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot at September 14, 2016 02:02 AM (9iR5/)

635 According to some. However, the Japanese, with
lowest incidences of thyroidism and cancers, consume 12 mg daily. Pre
WW2 America, it was common for 200 to 300 mg daily for therapy. I' m
working towards 50mg daily dosage, for an extended period.

Posted by: Min at September 14, 2016 02:02 AM (3hIZX)
Well, I got my info from here:
https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Iodine-HealthProfessional/
Table 3 says the maximum upper limit is 1100 mcg = 1.1 mg so I will start there.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 02:03 AM (uAvJJ)

636 MSG enhances the flavor of some things by some process. That "Accent" product is MSG and I've used it.

Some people claim to be sensitive to it, that it causes headaches and stuff like that, but these are pretty much unsupported. Results are unclear. THe LD50 of MSG in rats is about 5 times higher than regular table salt, NaCl. :-)

Some of this stuff states a dose of 3g or higher of MSG will cause the "headache" symptoms in certain sensitive individuals, but that is still an iffy result. I've seen people who claim they are sensitive and angrily insist it's true.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 14, 2016 02:05 AM (DW+jj)

637 634
Yeah, Chernobyl was a clusterf*ck just waiting to happen. The Soviet
style of control precipitated that disaster. One.Guy. caused that to
happen. I think he was a New Soviet Man.

Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot at September 14, 2016 02:02 AM (9iR5/)
Yup, he had to deliberately turn off all the safeties too in order to run his "experiment". It was not a disaster that resulted from some routine operation.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 02:05 AM (uAvJJ)

638 That's just the Denver area. Other cities, YMMV.
Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot

You think Denver was heavily targeted -- I grew up in the SF Bay Area, and some teacher once told us that the Livermore Labs (where they designed the nation's nukes) was in the top three of all priority targets nationwide. It was like: the first Russian nuke launched was aimed at the White House. The second nuke at the Empire State Building in NY. And the third nuke -- aimed at Livermore Labs. Stanford and UC Berkeley and the tech companies in silicon valley were also all high priorities. Port of Oakland to disrupt shipping and supplies for all the western US. Then SF itself. Alameda Air Station.

Basically we were told: Fugeddaboutit. If there's a war, we're fucked.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 02:06 AM (jBuUi)

639 Although, I am one of those people who do have a distinct physical reaction to consuming MSG -- flushed face, buzzing in the ears, sometimes a headache. I'm a food testing consultant so I have in fact done blind taste tests for soup packets that did and/or did not contain MSG, and without being told which ingredients were in which, I could easily and with unerring accuracy identify which ones contained MSG. So my "sensitivity" to it -- and I would wager many people's self-reported sensitivity to it -- is not merely a "social construct" or mass hysteria. Something about sodium glutamates gives some people physical symptoms when consumed. Although the exact mechanism of what might be causing it is far beyond my ken.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 01:59 AM (jBuUi)

That could well be. IIRC, glutamate is one of the primary neurotransmitters in the body. But for my part my allergies are to pop sci stuff in the absence of substantive evidence, and dietary matters seem to bring out stuff that would make witch doctors shake their heads and blush in embarrassment.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 02:06 AM (SRKgf)

640 The entire Chernobyl disaster could have been averted. It was caused by some Soviet scientist dicking around with a nuclear reactor with the safeties off. And because of that lots of people lost their lives. It was pretty awful.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 01:58 AM (uAvJJ)

The thing is, even with the safeties off, nothing would have happened if it were not for the fact that the scientists rushed the experiment because they wanted to go fishing early the next morning.

They were trying to see if they could use the spin-down of the turbines to restart the system.

The pushed the control rods in too fast, which allowed certain fission isotopes known as "neutron poisons", because they suck up neutrons, to kill off the overall nuclear chain reaction to the point where they'd have to reinitialize from scratch practically. When they saw this they pulled out all the control rods all the way. The fissioning started back up and rose exponentially... very, very exponentially. When they realized this they tried to shove the control rods back in... but found that the heat had already warped the rods so they couldn't be inserted. The heat got so great that the carbon control rods and the water converted to CO2 and H2 gasses... and that is what blew the top off the reactor.

All that, because some scientists wanted to go fishing early the next day.

Posted by: The Nukular Hat at September 14, 2016 02:07 AM (vBeA5)

641 Well, okay, I guess Cs(+) is not *that* much bigger than K(+). Only about 30 pm or so. Hmm.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 02:08 AM (uAvJJ)

642 publius, here is one place I have problems with the "settled science". They will dose lab rats with 100's of time the recommended dosage of this or that chemical and declare that it causes cancer or this effect or that. I'm skeptical because of the increased dosage.

Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot at September 14, 2016 02:09 AM (9iR5/)

643 Posted by: The Nukular Hat at September 14, 2016 02:07 AM (vBeA5)

Huh, that is interesting. where did you get that info? I would like to check it out and maybe use it in my class.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 02:10 AM (uAvJJ)

644 Some people claim to be sensitive to it, that it causes headaches and stuff like that, but these are pretty much unsupported. Results are unclear. THe LD50 of MSG in rats is about 5 times higher than regular table salt, NaCl. :-)

Some of this stuff states a dose of 3g or higher of MSG will cause the "headache" symptoms in certain sensitive individuals, but that is still an iffy result. I've seen people who claim they are sensitive and angrily insist it's true.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 14, 2016 02:05 AM (DW+jj)

I used to get "Chinese Restaurant Syndrome" back in the day when many Chinese restaurants really larded on the MSG. Basically flushed face, and a feeling of tightness in my chest, passed within a half-hour or so. Not really painful, just somewhat disconcerting. And I won't get angry if you choose to disbelieve me. Nor do i think MSG is evil. I just think some people may have a reaction to it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 02:11 AM (oqkO3)

645 Well, okay, I guess Cs(+) is not *that* much bigger than K(+). Only about 30 pm or so. Hmm.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 02:08 AM (uAvJJ)

0.3 Å can make a huge difference.

OTOH, in the body, close enough means close enough to screw up your biochemistry...

Posted by: The Atomic Hat at September 14, 2016 02:11 AM (vBeA5)

646 Scrolled back up to #600. I see that radiation is the topic of the night. Is this just General and Theoretical, or is there some Event of which I should be aware?

Posted by: mindful webworker - radiant at September 14, 2016 02:12 AM (Bpc14)

647 "Then SF itself. Alameda Air Station."

Concord Naval Weapons Station.

Moffett Field. (With the associated Blue Cube next door.)

Travis AFB. (Back in the day, also Hamilton AFB.)

The Sovs probably had a nuke saved up for the Defense Language Institute in Monterey. Because you never know. Hit everything in sight.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 02:13 AM (noWW6)

648 Table 3 says the maximum upper limit is 1100 mcg = 1.1 mg so I will start there.
Posted by: chemjeff

Good place to start. You might want to dig deeper into the origin of those numbers, if you wish.

I have cardio issues, and realizing the thyroid secretions directly affect the heart functions, I'm going for a higher dose.

All good so far. BTW, also supplementing with hawthorn and hibiscus.

Posted by: Min at September 14, 2016 02:13 AM (3hIZX)

649 Huh, I guess I have to learn more about what Cs does in the body.

Anyway I have to get to bed, thanks for the chemistry chat

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 02:14 AM (uAvJJ)

650 Posted by: The Nukular Hat at September 14, 2016 02:07 AM (vBeA5)

Huh, that is interesting. where did you get that info? I would like to check it out and maybe use it in my class.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 02:10 AM (uAvJJ)

Prof. Miller at UC Irvine, who ran the nuclear reactor on campus.

Posted by: The Atomic Hat at September 14, 2016 02:14 AM (vBeA5)

651 646
Scrolled back up to #600. I see that radiation is the topic of the
night. Is this just General and Theoretical, or is there some Event of
which I should be aware?

Posted by: mindful webworker - radiant at September 14, 2016 02:12 AM (Bpc14)
well, we presume you already have your tinfoil hat, right?

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 02:14 AM (uAvJJ)

652 OK, Hat, how did you make that angstrom symbol and I can't even get ampersands?

Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot at September 14, 2016 02:15 AM (9iR5/)

653 I'd like to ask for prayers for one of the greatest men I ever knew who passed today. I'll even name him, Stephen Goot. I worked for him for 10 years early career, and he taught me everything about being successful in business.
I can only hope I have passed along what he taught me.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, Deplorable and Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 12:12 AM (YLidQ)
My condolences, MWNP.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 01:05 AM

Prayers up from here.

T

Posted by: Farmer at September 14, 2016 02:16 AM (o/90i)

654 well, we presume you already have your tinfoil hat, right?

Posted by: chemjeff at September 14, 2016 02:14 AM (uAvJJ)

Lead foil offers better radiation protection, and is softer, and warmer, and not as noisy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 02:16 AM (oqkO3)

655 "well, we presume you already have your tinfoil hat, right?"

LEAD foil. Lead!

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 02:16 AM (noWW6)

656 OK, Hat, how did you make that angstrom symbol and I can't even get ampersands?

Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot at September 14, 2016 02:15 AM (9iR5/)

Type out:

& # 1 9 7 ;

And remove the spaces. You can only do it if you can type "&". This is browser specific.

Posted by: The Atomic Hat at September 14, 2016 02:17 AM (vBeA5)

657 You think Denver was heavily targeted -- I grew up in the SF Bay Area, and some teacher once told us that the Livermore Labs (where they designed the nation's nukes) was in the top three of all priority targets nationwide. It was like: the first Russian nuke launched was aimed at the White House. The second nuke at the Empire State Building in NY. And the third nuke -- aimed at Livermore Labs. Stanford and UC Berkeley and the tech companies in silicon valley were also all high priorities. Port of Oakland to disrupt shipping and supplies for all the western US. Then SF itself. Alameda Air Station.
Basically we were told: Fugeddaboutit. If there's a war, we're fucked.
Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 02:06 AM (jBuUi)

I don't mean to be contrary, but tonight that seems to be my role. I take this as evidence that teachers are retards.

First, why would the USSR target Livermore Labs? By the time they could design anything else, the war would be over, obviously. Same thing with Stanford, Silicon Valley, and the Port of Oakland, while Alameda Air Station (where I learned to swim, btw) was sufficiently unimportant that it no longer exists, IIRC. (The Soviets would never have nuked their fellow travelers at Berkeley.) A nuclear exchange wouldn't be a war of attrition, although that was apparently a news bulletin to school teachers and other powerful intellects. A nuclear exchange would probably last a day, maybe a week at the outside, but more likely a matter of hours.

So what would the Soviets target? Our command and control centers that might direct a counterstrike, and the bases that might conduct them.

Going after where ships might land in later weeks, or where people might design weapons to be used a decade hence, is risible. If someone is coming at you in an alley with a gun, do you call your broker to short the stock of the manufacturer of his ammunition?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 02:18 AM (SRKgf)

658 Hey zombie, did you try peeling the "fartichokes"? I've heard that reduces the evil component considerably.

Posted by: Min at September 14, 2016 02:18 AM (3hIZX)

659 AOP beats me by milliseconds. Drat.

I have some copper foil around here, and I honestly did have some lead foil at one point, but I cleaned out all of the various lead stuff and gave it to a cast-bullets aficionado. A very recyclable item.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 02:18 AM (noWW6)

660 I used to get "Chinese Restaurant Syndrome" back in the day when many Chinese restaurants really larded on the MSG. Basically flushed face, and a feeling of tightness in my chest, passed within a half-hour or so. Not really painful, just somewhat disconcerting. And I won't get angry if you choose to disbelieve me. Nor do i think MSG is evil. I just think some people may have a reaction to it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I really think that you and I are not crazy and that there are too many people who report very similar symptoms as we do for it to be entirely fictional.

Like you, I also don't think that MSG is "poisonous" or "evil" or whatever -- just that it causes a mild physical reaction which interferes with my ability to enjoy my meal.

It's those people who overstated their symptoms and then get all hysterical about the issue who have soured the hardcore scientists on "MSG symptoms" as a concept, assuming that it's just a bunch of crazies and nervous ninnies.

And by now the "MSG is bad" fad has long long faded away into social-sciences history, and yet some people continue to report the symptoms, even though there is no longer any "virtue-signalling" social benefit to do so.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 02:18 AM (jBuUi)

661 "well, we presume you already have your tinfoil hat, right?"

LEAD foil. Lead!

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 02:16 AM (noWW6)

But, the Bremsstrahlung!

Posted by: The Fissioning Hat at September 14, 2016 02:19 AM (vBeA5)

662 I'm not really arguing that some people aren't sensitive to MSG, just that what is going on is not clearly understand and there are "unclear" results in attempts to test it.

It's one of those things some hysterical types have gone crazy over, "OMG! MSG!" We're all gonna die!

I've eaten "funky shit", exactly what I couldn't tell you over the years that caused headaches and facial flushing and all that. I assume I'm sensitive in some way to something, but what the hell it is, and why, I don't know. But I don't consider a big deal.

I'm remember some damned homemade pickles or something one of my relatives gave us, and it had some funky spicy taste, something strange to me, and it gave me a headache. So, I didn't eat it again. And I was the only one.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 14, 2016 02:19 AM (DW+jj)

663 Like you, I also don't think that MSG is "poisonous" or "evil" or whatever -- just that it causes a mild physical reaction which interferes with my ability to enjoy my meal.

It does me too...

Posted by: deplorable donna at September 14, 2016 02:19 AM (O2RFr)

664
Just a quick heads up on people being sensitive to things. All kinds of people are allergic to what are inert ingredients in medication tablets. Nowthey should have no effect or cause no reaction, but for somethey do. Same with MSG. Plus, I am one of those with the MSG sensitivity. Bass Pro sells jerky that has no MSG and it is the only one I have found I can eat a significant amount of or even a whole bag and not get a migraine. I genetically inherited the tendency for migraines from my father.
BTW, I did not know the Bass Pro jerky did not have MSG when I bought it. Went to town on it because it was so good and had my migraine medication ready just in case. Never had a migraine after eating it. All the other brands I ate a fair amount of...migraine.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at September 14, 2016 02:20 AM (hVdx9)

665 So what would the Soviets target? Our command and control centers that might direct a counterstrike, and the bases that might conduct them.

Going after where ships might land in later weeks, or where people might design weapons to be used a decade hence, is risible. If someone is coming at you in an alley with a gun, do you call your broker to short the stock of the manufacturer of his ammunition?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 02:18 AM (SRKgf)

Well, if you have thousands of nukes, you can hit everything you want... multiple times.

Posted by: The Explody Hat at September 14, 2016 02:21 AM (vBeA5)

666 chemjeff: ...well, we presume you already have your tinfoil hat, right?

Mylar stetson firmly screwed onto my dome. Kinda funny, though, to be thus protecting my cranium while going pantsless. ...!

I remember considering dousing the family with iodine as Chernobyl fallout drifted across the globe. We didn't...

+

Never before (that I recall, memory may be faulty) heard Otis Redding - A Change Is Gonna Come. Dang, that guy was soulful.

Posted by: mindful webworker - in Mylar Stetson at September 14, 2016 02:21 AM (Bpc14)

667

648 Min

"I have cardio issues, and realizing the thyroid secretions directly affect the heart functions, I'm going for a higher dose."

A few years ago, my blood tests for my yearly physical indicated I was likely to have a thyroid problem. My physician wanted to start the medication/treatment preemptively, but my recollection was that once started, the medication is for ever.

I chose to try getting iodine in my diet, specifically, a kelp capsule everyday. It worked for me (the next physical said so), but I also started immediately, when I was 5-10 points under the lower limit. One(1) capsule of compressed kelp (325mcg of iodine) per day, AND I work out 5 days per week. I was lucky.

Of course, the capsule needs to be swallowed quickly, as the taste of seaweed (it's also on the outside of the capsule) ... have something to eat at the same time, just in case.

Posted by: Arbalest at September 14, 2016 02:22 AM (FlRtG)

668 And by now the "MSG is bad" fad has long long faded away into social-sciences history, and yet some people continue to report the symptoms, even though there is no longer any "virtue-signalling" social benefit to do so.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 02:18 AM (jBuUi)

It's also worth noting that many Chinese restaurants now offer "MSG-free" dishes, and some have their entire menu "MSG-free". So chances are, the amount of MSG one would get in a typical Chinese restaurant outing is now much less than it was in the 1970's.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 02:23 AM (oqkO3)

669 658 Hey zombie, did you try peeling the "fartichokes"? I've heard that reduces the evil component considerably.
Posted by: Min

Harvest time isn't until winter, so I won't know until then.

However, my research thus far tells me that peeling them will have little to no effect on the problem. I will experiment with that (and several other) techniques, but I suspect that most of them will prove to be old wives' tales.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 02:25 AM (jBuUi)

670 Jack White Carolina Drama, Acoustic
https://youtu.be/CUKcChH7sbo

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 14, 2016 02:25 AM (VdICR)

671 Well, if you have thousands of nukes, you can hit everything you want... multiple times.
Posted by: The Explody Hat at September 14, 2016 02:21 AM (vBeA5)

The question was what were the top targets? The top targets would obviously be the ones that could hurt you the most in the short term. Blowing up Livermore would mean you were looking good ten years from now.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 02:25 AM (SRKgf)

672 Corsi over at WND is reporting that Friends of the Clintons are talking!
Stage 3 Parkinson's.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 02:25 AM (aDVrz)

673 Dang! I got #666 and didn't even mean to. Had I but known, I would have done something more appropriate.

Like put on a Hillary sock.

Posted by: mindful webworker - the devil, you say? at September 14, 2016 02:25 AM (Bpc14)

674 Jay, it was the Soviets. If it could be a risk, it was targeted. After WWII, they were the original "If it moves, kill it" "If it continues to move, kill it again." type of guys. After Hitler, they weren't taking any chances. 20 million dead will do that to you. I picked up loads at Lawrence Livermore. Highly sensitive. Ports, airfields, anything that could be used as a weapon to strike back at the Rodina, no matter how long after a first strike, was targeted.

Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot at September 14, 2016 02:27 AM (9iR5/)

675 It was the late Robert McNamara who said, about the early 1960s version of the SIOP, that it wasn't a rational war plan so much as it was a "horrible spasm".

You have to figure that the Soviet version was similar.

SIOP back in the day included detailed instructions, with backups and contingencies, to nuke places like remote fifth-tier Russian light industrial cities. Because they had once built an optics mount during WWII for the T-34 tank.

You can't be too careful. Not in total war.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 02:27 AM (noWW6)

676 Like put on a Hillary sock.

Posted by: mindful webworker - the devil, you say? at September 14, 2016 02:25 AM (Bpc14)

Hillary socks always fall down. All stretched to shit by the cankles.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 02:27 AM (oqkO3)

677 Going after where ships might land in later weeks, or where people might design weapons to be used a decade hence, is risible.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Well, then, the teacher was likely just trying to scare us to keep us in line. This was, like, third grade -- a good time to tell kids outlandish tales, because nine-year-olds will believe anything.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 02:28 AM (jBuUi)

678 Bastards didn't just want you dead, they wanted you so dead that you couldn't strike back. Paranoid people, the Russians.

Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot at September 14, 2016 02:30 AM (9iR5/)

679 And cross-cultural studies showed that wherever there was little running water and little social awareness of soap (i.e. in primitive tribal areas), there was almost never high blood-cholesterol problems in the population -- even if they ate a ton of cholesterol-y foods. (I.e. it wasn't just Eskimos. I cited them above because they were the most extreme and noteworthy example.) Whereas the cleanliness-obsessed Western nations tended to have high blood-chilesterol by comparison. So there was cross-cultural social correlation too.
Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 01:42 AM

I'm catching the end of this as I wake up from a nap. So showering & more cleanliness leads to higher cholesterol? WTF?

Posted by: Farmer at September 14, 2016 02:31 AM (o/90i)

680 The Russians had seen up close and personal what total warfare meant. What made it even worse was Stalin and Politburo. They had to maintain power at all costs. Stalin once said that a single death was a tragedy. A million deaths was a statistic. It didn't bother him to lose 100,000 men in a battle.

Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot at September 14, 2016 02:34 AM (9iR5/)

681 I'm catching the end of this as I wake up from a nap. So showering & more cleanliness leads to higher cholesterol? WTF?

Posted by: Farmer at September 14, 2016 02:31 AM (o/90i)

Correlation != causation.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 02:35 AM (SRKgf)

682 James Lileks on the Cold War when he was a kid.

http://www.lileks.com/bleats/archive/03/0903/091103.html

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 14, 2016 02:38 AM (VdICR)

683 Gnight Morons and Moronettes! A killer pillow is calling my name.

Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot at September 14, 2016 02:38 AM (9iR5/)

684 I'm catching the end of this as I wake up from a nap. So showering & more cleanliness leads to higher cholesterol? WTF?
Posted by: Farmer

Yep.

Well, a study from about 20 years ago claimed so. See comment #590 above for the full story.

I am no biochemist, however, so I'm only reporting what I have read about this legendary/infamous study. I can't vouch for its accuracy.

I will say that the study seems to have almost ZERO effect on people's behavior. People in the Western world still shower with soap constantly, and still think that dietary choices cause high blood-cholesterol, despite (apparent) strong evidence to the contrary.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 02:38 AM (jBuUi)

685 Jay, it was the Soviets. If it could be a risk, it was targeted. After WWII, they were the original "If it moves, kill it" "If it continues to move, kill it again." type of guys. After Hitler, they weren't taking any chances. 20 million dead will do that to you. I picked up loads at Lawrence Livermore. Highly sensitive. Ports, airfields, anything that could be used as a weapon to strike back at the Rodina, no matter how long after a first strike, was targeted.

Posted by: Old Blue Deplorable Old Coot at September 14, 2016 02:27 AM (9iR5/)

I appreciate that, but we were talking about top three targets.

If you were targeting the Soviets, what would you target first - their research facilities, or their strike facilities?

If you take out their strike facilities, you can go after their research facilities at leisure, if there's any point. OTOH, if you go the way around ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 02:39 AM (SRKgf)

686 Our government is melting. The Clintons are literally too big to fail and would bring down the entire government if they pursued the Clintons.

Fucking unreal story. The quotes and points from the agents will make your stomach turn.

http://tinyurl.com/z4oyrhg

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 02:43 AM (aDVrz)

687 Fascinating as all this radiation and nutrition conversation is, I'm going to give up and check out. Leave some room free for Vic in the morning.

Good night, Gracies. And remember: Unreasoned fear is a master intellectual fraud practiced upon the evolving mortal soul.

Reasoned fear is another matter altogether...

Posted by: mindful webworker - beyond audience comprehension at September 14, 2016 02:43 AM (Bpc14)

688 672 Corsi over at WND is reporting that Friends of the Clintons are talking!
Stage 3 Parkinson's.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 02:25 AM (aDVrz)

Eh, sketchy. He references the "squeeze my fingers" pic that was debunked here the other day.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 14, 2016 02:45 AM (ASSjT)

689 Correlation != causation.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 02:35 AM

Sorry Jay, that doesn't help me understand it anymore.

I'm just deplorable...but not irredeemable.

Posted by: Farmer at September 14, 2016 02:46 AM (o/90i)

690 Total war was and is a viable strategy for certain enemies. Especially the Soviets saw what it meant and required. And consider, too, that a lot of the mass bulk of the vaunted Red Army's munitions in the GPW were either American made or built on american equipment or with american materials. We could fight on two fronts and supply them - that leaves an impression.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at September 14, 2016 02:48 AM (cHn0V)

691 The Soviets, by contrast, never could catch up. And the war left them devastated. We were the last power standing and they knew and feared it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at September 14, 2016 02:50 AM (cHn0V)

692 And cross-cultural studies showed that wherever there was little running water and little social awareness of soap (i.e. in primitive tribal areas), there was almost never high blood-cholesterol problems in the population -- even if they ate a ton of cholesterol-y foods. (I.e. it wasn't just Eskimos. I cited them above because they were the most extreme and noteworthy example.) Whereas the cleanliness-obsessed Western nations tended to have high blood-cholesterol by comparison. So there was cross-cultural social correlation too.
Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 01:42 AM

Assuming the observation is true, what are the potentially confounding factors?

1. racial/genetic differences. People who differ in some respects can differ in others as well.

2. differences in mean longevity between populations. The same sorts of data can "prove" that cancer or heart disease is more prevalent among those who bathe, because those who don't generally die before they're 40, i.e., before cancer or heart disease is a significant cause of death. See, e.g., liberals bleating about how these causes of death have become much more prevalent in the West since 1900, when mean longevity was 45.

3. some other correlate, that I'm too tired to think of right now.

Overall, I'm skeptical because it's hard to see how topical application of ... well, anything ... would have much effect on cholesterol levels in the blood, especially (as pointed out above) 85% of cholesterol is endogenous (i.e., biosynthetic) in origin.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 02:51 AM (SRKgf)

693
"And cross-cultural studies showed that wherever there was little running water and little social awareness of soap (i.e. in ~~primitive tribal areas~~ Fwance), there was almost never high blood-cholesterol problems in the population -- even if they ate a ton of cholesterol-y foods."

... like cheesy-mold and pate.

This, then, is the True Path of Human Civilization.

Posted by: Jean-Pierre Folderol, Member, The League of Ugly Shirted Gentlemen at September 14, 2016 02:56 AM (FlRtG)

694 689 Correlation != causation.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 02:35 AM
Sorry Jay, that doesn't help me understand it anymore.
I'm just deplorable...but not irredeemable.
Posted by: Farmer at September 14, 2016 02:46 AM (o/90i)

Sorry, I was being telegraphic. I was responding to your comment that one led to the other. That was sharpening the putative observation, which was that one was associated with the other, i.e., correlated.

It's a common fallacy. Dropping barometric pressures are associated with rain, but do not cause it. Breast feeding is associated with higher IQ in infants, but that's probably because mothers in a position to breast feed are likely to be higher up the socioeconomic ladder, and hence in a position to breast feed, and also likely to be of higher IQ themselves. A partner in a law firm has the clout to breast feed if she so chooses; a mother gutting chickens on the Perdue assembly line, not so much.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 02:58 AM (SRKgf)

695 it's hard to see how topical application of ... well, anything ... would have much effect on cholesterol levels in the blood, especially (as pointed out above) 85% of cholesterol is endogenous (i.e., biosynthetic) in origin.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Read the theory again. THE WHOLE POINT is that 85% of cholesterol is INDEED endogenous (i.e., biosynthetic) in origin. So that diet won't have much of an effect on it. But what could induce your body to produce more cholesterol by itself? Chemically removing a whole bunch of its byproduct on the skin, necessitating a big replacement load of cholesterol being delivered to the skin via the bloodstream.

It's not that some "topical application" of something directly increases blood cholesterol, but rather that all-body "topical application" of sebum remover could cause the body to send more self-created cholesterol into the bloodstream.

Doing this once or twice obviously would have no long-term effect. It's the daily removal of sebum as a lifelong habit that can lead to chronically elevated levels.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 03:00 AM (jBuUi)

696 It was the late Robert McNamara who said, about the early 1960s version of the SIOP, that it wasn't a rational war plan so much as it was a "horrible spasm".

You have to figure that the Soviet version was similar.

SIOP back in the day included detailed instructions, with backups and contingencies, to nuke places like remote fifth-tier Russian light industrial cities. Because they had once built an optics mount during WWII for the T-34 tank.

You can't be too careful. Not in total war.
Posted by: torquewrench

Total, back when words had actual meaning.

Posted by: Jean at September 14, 2016 03:02 AM (ngn8T)

697 "It's a common fallacy. Dropping barometric pressures are associated with rain, but do not cause it."

My all-time favorite classroom example of how correlation gets confused with causation: superimposed charts of falling native European birth rates, with falling populations of storks in Europe over the matching time period.

They track quite elegantly and consistently.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 03:02 AM (noWW6)

698 688 672 Corsi over at WND is reporting that Friends of the Clintons are talking!
Stage 3 Parkinson's.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 02:25 AM (aDVrz)

Eh, sketchy. He references the "squeeze my fingers" pic that was debunked here the other day.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 14, 2016 02:45 AM (ASSjT

He is pretty dang reliable investigator and researcher .

He was on of the earliest and first to be on Obama

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 03:03 AM (aDVrz)

699 Excellent, I'm tired of showering

Posted by: Jean at September 14, 2016 03:04 AM (ngn8T)

700 I'm catching the end of this as I wake up from a nap. So showering & more cleanliness leads to higher cholesterol? WTF?
Posted by: Farmer

Yep.
Well, a study from about 20 years ago claimed so. See comment #590 above for the full story.
I am no biochemist, however, so I'm only reporting what I have read about this legendary/infamous study. I can't vouch for its accuracy....
I will say that the study seems to have almost ZERO effect on people's behavior. People in the Western world still shower with soap constantly, and still think that dietary choices cause high blood-cholesterol, despite (apparent) strong evidence to the contrary.
Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 02:38 AM

Inteerseting, this ties in w/ something else I read lately. It was along the lines that you only needed soap on certain parts of the body.

Face, pits and groin...the rest is routinely cleaned better by just water.

Posted by: Farmer at September 14, 2016 03:05 AM (o/90i)

701 Doing this once or twice obviously would have no long-term effect. It's the daily removal of sebum as a lifelong habit that can lead to chronically elevated levels.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 03:00 AM (jBuUi)

This would be easy to test for. Take two prisons, or two cell blocks in one huge prison. Baseline test both for blood cholesterol. Prison A gets normal soap for their showers; Prison B gets soap formulated to not remove sebum. Retest serum cholesterol periodically. Watch other health indicators, too, of course.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 03:06 AM (oqkO3)

702 691 The Soviets, by contrast, never could catch up. And the war left them devastated. We were the last power standing and they knew and feared it.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at September 14, 2016 02:50 AM (cHn0V)

They poured and made everything out of concrete.

At some point you have to diversify and move on.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 03:06 AM (aDVrz)

703 693
"And cross-cultural studies showed that wherever there was little running water and little social awareness of soap (i.e. in primitive tribal areas Fwance)

Posted by: Jean-Pierre Foldero

In fact, the example of France was a big part of the study: The French and the Germans ate approximately equally large amounts of cholesterol in their national diets, and yet (at the time of the study at least) the French inexplicably had lower blood-cholesterol levels as a nation overall compared to the Germans. BUT -- it was shown that the French bathed on average about one or two times per week, while the Germans bathed nearly daily. It was the only noteworthy behavioral difference between the two nations.

And yes, they are the same "race," so that couldn't explain it either.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 03:07 AM (jBuUi)

704 Read the theory again. THE WHOLE POINT is that 85% of cholesterol is INDEED endogenous (i.e., biosynthetic) in origin. So that diet won't have much of an effect on it. But what could induce your body to produce more cholesterol by itself? Chemically removing a whole bunch of its byproduct on the skin, necessitating a big replacement load of cholesterol being delivered to the skin via the bloodstream.

It's not that some "topical application" of something directly increases blood cholesterol, but rather that all-body "topical application" of sebum remover could cause the body to send more self-created cholesterol into the bloodstream.

Doing this once or twice obviously would have no long-term effect. It's the daily removal of sebum as a lifelong habit that can lead to chronically elevated levels.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 03:00 AM (jBuUi)

OK, but what's the feedback mechanism? How does the biosynthetic pathway know there's a dearth of sebum (I presume that that's at least partially cholesterol, or derived therefrom) get up-regulated? Bear in mind that the skin itself is dead.

I'm not saying it's not true, I'm saying that I'm finding it hard to imagine a mechanism for it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 03:07 AM (SRKgf)

705 Pepe - heh....one thing they never ran out of was concrete, and yet, they never failed to fail with it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at September 14, 2016 03:07 AM (cHn0V)

706 So Lipitor makes you smell too

Posted by: Jean at September 14, 2016 03:08 AM (ngn8T)

707 >>> The Soviets, by contrast, never could catch up. And the war left them
devastated.

"They poured and made everything out of concrete."

Clothing. Vehicles. Food.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 03:08 AM (noWW6)

708 Night all.

Here is "Oblivion" by Mastodon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6WGNd8QR-U

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 14, 2016 03:08 AM (vBeA5)

709 Torque - heh....I've got some Russian clothes that will be as good in fifty years as they were fifty years ago. Which is to say, ugly and irritating but more or less indestructible.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at September 14, 2016 03:10 AM (cHn0V)

710 And yes, they are the same "race," so that couldn't explain it either.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 03:07 AM (jBuUi)

Maybe not the same "race," but not the same people, either. Look at average height, for example.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 03:11 AM (SRKgf)

711 "It's a common fallacy. Dropping barometric pressures are associated with rain, but do not cause it."

Dropping barometric pressures don't cause rain, but they are a reliable indicator of the arrival of a low-pressure system, which typically does mean rain.

The correlation occurs because of common causation. A does not lead to B, but C frequently leads to both A and B.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 03:12 AM (oqkO3)

712 "I've got some Russian clothes that will be as good in fifty years as they were fifty years ago."

A friend has a pair of Gorbachev-era "blue jeans".

Indigenously designed and manufactured in the USSR.

I covet them. They are a laugh riot.

Not even remotely my size. But still.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 03:14 AM (noWW6)

713 So, when someone starts bragging about how low their cholesterol IS, I can shout...

"That's Because Yer FILTHY!!!"

Posted by: Meremortal, ride to the sound of the guns. at September 14, 2016 03:14 AM (3myMJ)

714 Night all.
Here is "Oblivion" by Mastodon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6WGNd8QR-U
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 14, 2016 03:08 AM

Night Hat. Hope to meet you someday in Vegas, sleep well.

Posted by: Farmer at September 14, 2016 03:15 AM (o/90i)

715 Torque - yeah....size and fit were never good on their stuff. I'm of Slavic stock, and some of it looks decent on me. We're built a bit differently. Short and lean or short and stocky - there aren't many other sizes.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at September 14, 2016 03:15 AM (cHn0V)

716 This would be easy to test for. Take two prisons, or two cell blocks in one huge prison. Baseline test both for blood cholesterol. Prison A gets normal soap for their showers; Prison B gets soap formulated to not remove sebum. Retest serum cholesterol periodically. Watch other health indicators, too, of course.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

"This would be easy to test for" if experimenting on prisoners wasn't already banned in the U.S. and considered totally unethical. In the 1930s, yeah, they could do that study. Now? Lawsuits out the wazoo.

That's why the theory is very hard to prove "experimentally." All you can really do is track populations and try to eliminate possible other causes to explain the correlations.

Oh, and Jay, speaking of which, about your racial differences observation: that was addressed as well:

Those Eskimos who lived in modern houses with hot running water and soap started developing high blood cholesterol, while their direct family relatives still living the old-school "primitive" way with no water yet surviving solely on walrus blubber had no such problems.

Same race. Same families.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 03:16 AM (jBuUi)

717 OK, but what's the feedback mechanism? How does the biosynthetic pathway know there's a dearth of sebum (I presume that that's at least partially cholesterol, or derived therefrom) get up-regulated? Bear in mind that the skin itself is dead.

I'm not saying it's not true, I'm saying that I'm finding it hard to imagine a mechanism for it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 14, 2016 03:07 AM (SRKgf)

Well, sebum comes from sebaceous glands in the skin, right? And if you wash away all the surface sebum, and also some of that in the pores that are fed by those glands, you reduce back pressure on the glands, so they accelerate production. Presumably using cholesterol as a building block for the sebum. And probably sending cholesterol metabolites into the bloodstream, to be scavenged by the liver. There's a possible feedback pathway, there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 03:18 AM (oqkO3)

718
"This would be easy to test for" if experimenting on prisoners wasn't already banned in the U.S. and considered totally unethical. In the 1930s, yeah, they could do that study. Now? Lawsuits out the wazoo.

That's why the theory is very hard to prove "experimentally." All you can really do is track populations and try to eliminate possible other causes to explain the correlations.

So the big discovery will be made in China, then.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 03:20 AM (oqkO3)

719 OK, but what's the feedback mechanism? How does the biosynthetic pathway know there's a dearth of sebum (I presume that that's at least partially cholesterol, or derived therefrom) get up-regulated? Bear in mind that the skin itself is dead.

I'm not saying it's not true, I'm saying that I'm finding it hard to imagine a mechanism for it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

That is way way out of my league, science-knowledge-wise. Sorry. I do not know how the body "detects" or "realizes" that skin-sebum has been removed. But it's definitely a good question. Probably with a very esoteric answer that only a specialist could give you.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 03:21 AM (jBuUi)

720 "size and fit were never good on their stuff."

Also, design and manufacturing and materials.

In Soviet Union, pants wear YOU!

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 03:26 AM (noWW6)

721 OK, so bathing gives you high cholesterol. So what?

I thought we had debunked the whole link between cholesterol levels and heart disease.

My whole family has high cholesterol, and no heart disease. Huh.

Also, most of us don't stink, because we actually use soap when bathing. Huh.

Posted by: Deplorable tcn in AK at September 14, 2016 03:29 AM (+YMhA)

722 That is way way out of my league, science-knowledge-wise. Sorry. I do not know how the body "detects" or "realizes" that skin-sebum has been removed. But it's definitely a good question. Probably with a very esoteric answer that only a specialist could give you.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 03:21 AM (jBuUi)

How does the reservoir of a Sharpie marker "know" that you have just written, "for a good BJ, call Hillary at..." on a bathroom wall? Answer: it doesn't "know" but by laying down ink on a surface, a minute pressure drop is created across the fiber tip, and ink flows from a higher pressure regime to to a lower pressure regime. Wash away sebum from the skin, and the sebum in the sebaceous glands, being at higher pressure, oozes out a little, lowering pressure in the glands. The glands sense the lowered pressure, and become more active to restore it to the set point.

There has to be some (negative) feedback mechanism, or else we'd be going around dripping sebum like a mo-fo.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 03:30 AM (oqkO3)

723 Anyway, I have to go to bed. I ate a late steak dinner, and the feedback from my gut is making my eyelids heavy. Good night, all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 03:33 AM (oqkO3)

724 How does the reservoir of a Sharpie marker "know" that you have just written, "for a good BJ, call Hillary at..." on a bathroom wall? Answer: it doesn't "know" but by laying down ink on a surface, a minute pressure drop is created across the fiber tip, and ink flows from a higher pressure regime to to a lower pressure regime. Wash away sebum from the skin, and the sebum in the sebaceous glands, being at higher pressure, oozes out a little, lowering pressure in the glands. The glands sense the lowered pressure, and become more active to restore it to the set point.

There has to be some (negative) feedback mechanism, or else we'd be going around dripping sebum like a mo-fo.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Nice!

I just knew a smarter person than me would have a good explanation.

To elaborate on your final sentence:

If there was no feedback mechanism, we'd either be dripping wet with oily sebum all the time, or our skin would be as dry and cracked as Hillary's vaginal walls. Some kind of natural constant feedback mechanism MUST keep one's skin at constant perfect sebum levels.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 03:37 AM (jBuUi)

725 So Blagojevich got 14 years for attempting to sell Cock Shaped Mouth's Senate seat.

The entire DNC after this document dump should be in prison. The crimes are staggering and in your face.

The DNC looked like they were getting earnings reports a couple of days ahead of time and making trades. There is a freaking list.

The scale of this financial dump is incredible.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 03:40 AM (aDVrz)

726 "size and fit were never good on their stuff."

Also, design and manufacturing and materials.

In Soviet Union, pants wear YOU!

Posted by: torquewrench at September 14, 2016 03:26 AM (noWW6)

Obligatory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CaMUfxVJVQ

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 14, 2016 03:43 AM (zc3Db)

727 Heh...soviet shoes were cited by my old econ prof as an example of negative utility. Ten bucks worth of materials, 10 bucks worth of labor and machine-time, to male shoes nobody wants at even a buck a pair.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at September 14, 2016 03:55 AM (cHn0V)

728 Lousy night, insomnia struck again,
But can I have the BAR in full auto please?

Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2016 04:02 AM (8lPj5)

729 It took me a while to find it, but the idea that washing causes the body to upregulate sebum production is apparently a *myth*. Sebum is produced continuously at a rate that can vary, but does not depend on the surface concentration. IOW, washing or not washing does not affect sebum production.

There is no way the sebaceous glands have to "know" how much sebum remains on the skin.

There was some research on this back in '58.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 14, 2016 04:16 AM (DW+jj)

730 Ther must be one on the internet loophole I can have, no questions asked of course.

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2016 04:21 AM (8lPj5)

731 729 It took me a while to find it, but the idea that washing causes the body to upregulate sebum production is apparently a *myth*. Sebum is produced continuously at a rate that can vary, but does not depend on the surface concentration. IOW, washing or not washing does not affect sebum production.

There is no way the sebaceous glands have to "know" how much sebum remains on the skin.

There was some research on this back in '58.

Posted by: publius

Great -- now we have two mysterious old studies completely contradicting each other!

The only solution is to eat some butter-fried bacon as I sit in a bubble-bath! Might as well go out in style.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 04:23 AM (jBuUi)

732 I think I'll risk it and get a shower every night just like I always have.

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2016 04:29 AM (8lPj5)

733 Y'all have been watching sebaceous porn again.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 04:30 AM (aDVrz)

734 Sebum is a big deal with acne. It's a complex mess, but increased sebum production leads to more acne. The sebaceous glands are stimulated to produce it by DHT (the same testosterone metabolite or break-down product or whatever you call it that causes baldness). So, in puberty, T levels increases and sebaceous production starts.

Now, in a complex process, which involves bacteria (which are feeding on the sebum) acne results.

There is apparently a myth that too much washing causes an increase in sebum production, and so too much soap and water makes acne worse by increasing sebum production. Dermatologists have to deal with this myth. Cleaning is an important thing to *reduce* acne.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 14, 2016 04:31 AM (DW+jj)

735 Now, some soaps and other shit out there have some ingredient that irritates skin, which can make acne worse in some people. But it has nothing to do with increasing sebum production.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 14, 2016 04:33 AM (DW+jj)

736 Now, some soaps and other shit out there have some ingredient that irritates skin, which can make acne worse in some people. But it has nothing to do with increasing sebum production.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 14, 2016 04:33 AM (DW+jj)

Most commercial soaps have all sorts of shit in them (and the cheaper ones have the glycerin removed). They are pretty much crap. That's why I make my own soap. It's one of the easiest things in the world to make and there's nothing better than good, pure homemade soap.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 14, 2016 04:43 AM (zc3Db)

737 Hey skip. I believe full auto BAR's were one of the weapons the symbionese liberation army (Patty Hearst's kidnappers) used during their final stand against the law.

Pretty scary for the lawmen!

Posted by: Subterranean JT at September 14, 2016 04:48 AM (qG0hz)

738 See:

Kligman, A. M., and Shelley, W. B.: "An Investigation of the Biology of the Human Sebaceous Gland" 1958.

These guys are very snarky here, actually, and they debunk with zeal the notion of "feedback" in sebum production. I mean, it's like this guy is obsessed with sebum production and anyone who believes in feedback is an idiot who ought to be taken out and shot.

Another is this:

"Sebum secretion and sebaceous lipids." - published in Dermatologic Clinics, Vol. 1, No. 3, July 1983.

This refers to the first one.

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These observations gave rise to a long-lived fallacy (1927-1957) that
was posthumously christened the "feedback theory" by Kligman and Shelley
(23). The idea was that sebaceous glands secrete only when necessary to
replenish lipid that has been wiped or washed away. Nothing known about
the physiology of sebaceous glands gives any theoretical support to
this concept, and it has been thoroughly disproved experimentally (23).
*Sebum is secreted continuously.* The reason that lipid levels
eventually cease to increase apparently is that the skin can hold only a
certain amount of lipid in its crevices, and the rest tends to flow
away from sites of high sebum production (23)

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Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 14, 2016 04:50 AM (DW+jj)

739 Oh, that 1958 paper used *prisoners* as test subjects. :-)

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 14, 2016 04:50 AM (DW+jj)

740 I'd like the one that did in Bonnie and Clide, for historical reasons of course

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2016 04:54 AM (8lPj5)

741 Nice to have someone in a squad with a BAR but I don't want to lug that thing around.
Would like to have an AR in 7.62 though.
Maybe with a Thompson as a back up.
Do love the Colt.

Posted by: teej at September 14, 2016 04:56 AM (02ckt)

742 739 Oh, that 1958 paper used *prisoners* as test subjects. :-)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)

Ha! Just as Alberta Oil Peon suggested!

Nowadays, using anyone under any kind of coercion (such as being in prison) for a human experiment is considered totally unethical. Even if they "volunteer." But it used to be commonplace. I think it was in the '70s that it finally became taboo.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 05:00 AM (jBuUi)

743 And saw the eye doc yesterday. I guess he doesn't think it's time for cataract surgery yet even though the left can no longer be corrected to 20-20.
Was kinda hoping to get it done and be done with it.

Posted by: teej at September 14, 2016 05:01 AM (02ckt)

744 Mornin'

I've expanded from making my own soap to making my own laundry detergent. It's super easy. I make the powdered kind because I prefer it, but you can make your own liquid laundry soap also. After buying the basic ingredients, usually found in the same aisle as commercial laundry soaps, you'll be set for a long time.

I did some figgerin' and my yearly cost for laundry soap works out to about 8 bucks a year, tops. That's what, 2 bottles or boxes of the commercial stuff?

For the powdered kind:

Shave one small bar of Ivory Soap (the 99% pure so it floats soap)

Mix the grated soap flakes with 2 cups 20-Mule Team Borax. Now add 2 cups Arm & Hammer Super Washing Powder and mix again. (you can add the powders in whichever order you want. Just do them one at a time so you get a good mix.) If you want it scented, add 15 drops of Lavender essential oil, or any essential oil you like. I skip this step.

I recommend buying a separate cheese grater just for making soap. If you have a really big food processor, use that for the mixing. Or do what I do and just use a hand mixer and a big mixing bowl. Spread some newspapers around it to catch any powder that flies out.

Store in an airtight container. Use 2 tablespoons per load.

I have noticed absolutely no difference whatsoever in the cleanliness of clothing washed in home made laundry soap. And clothes come out softer...so soft you won't need fabric softener.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - I speak of the Pompatous of Love at September 14, 2016 05:04 AM (WlGX+)

745 I'm out, have a great day all.

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2016 05:12 AM (8lPj5)

746 Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - I speak of the Pompatous of Love at September 14, 2016 05:04 AM (WlGX+)

Sounds good. I make pure coconut oil soap for use as dish soap and some laundry (since it removes oils completely) so I would substitute that for the Ivory above.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 14, 2016 05:12 AM (zc3Db)

747 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 14, 2016 05:12 AM (zc3Db)

Cool idea, I should try that with my next batch!

As a note to the above: home made laundry soap will not "suds up" like commercial soaps, which are laden with chemical "sudsing agents" because people associate "suds" with "cleaning." The lack of sudsing agents is why home made soap leaves your clothes so soft. But if one reeeeally "needs" to see suds, I've read that you can add a half-cup of baking soda to the mix.

I do use fabric softener sheets (just one-half sheet per dryer load) in the winter but only for their ant-static properties, not for softening.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - I speak of the Pompatous of Love at September 14, 2016 05:19 AM (WlGX+)

748 My eye doctor wanted to send me to cataract surgery last year. But the thought of cutting my eyeball just gives me the willies. I can see good enough to get by now. Ironically Medicare does not cover eye care so I no longer have eye care insurance, but it does cover cataract surgery.

And since Medicare does not cover optometry (or dental) services my add-on health insurance does not cover it either.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 14, 2016 05:28 AM (mpXpK)

749 Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - I speak of the Pompatous of Love at September 14, 2016 05:19 AM (WlGX+)

I've got a box of 20-Mule Team Borax hanging around (you never know when it'll come in handy!) and I'm going to give your recipe a try.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 14, 2016 05:29 AM (zc3Db)

750
People have mentioned a dirth of Hillary! yard signs this election. It's not true.

She has yard signs -- they just can't stand up.

You're too kind! I'm not here all night... adios.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 14, 2016 05:44 AM (BK3ZS)

751 {tiptoes down the stairs and into the ONT so as not to wake the houseguest...whispers softly}

'Morning, Horde.

Posted by: creeper at September 14, 2016 05:45 AM (MP6Qb)

752 Vic, I hear you on the cataracts. I'm getting there but, like you, the thought of having someone take a scalpel to my eyes is making it a difficult decision.

You know what we are? We're wimps!

Posted by: creeper at September 14, 2016 05:47 AM (MP6Qb)

753 752 You know what we are? We're wimps!

Posted by: creeper at September 14, 2016 05:47 AM (MP6Qb)

I freely admit it when it comes to someone cutting on my eyeball. Especially when I can get by w/o it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 14, 2016 05:52 AM (mpXpK)

754 VNN will be coming in 5 min.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 14, 2016 05:52 AM (mpXpK)

755 Good Morning Morons. Today is Wednesday, September 14, 2016. On this day in 1994 the Major League Baseball season was canceled because of a strike. I had already pretty much given up on baseball except when Atlanta was in the playoffs. But this was it for me. I have never watched another baseball game after this and that includes the World Series.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 14, 2016 05:58 AM (mpXpK)

756 Real winner tries to run over two cops in AZ as the war on cops by black thugs continues.

Real Winner; looks like one of those Gunsmoke bad guys you used to see.

http://bit.ly/2cvzg8i

Story

http://bit.ly/2cvzg8i

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 14, 2016 05:58 AM (mpXpK)

757 The Choom hits the campaign trail for the incapacitated scum Scankles. Can he outlie her? Will he get the liars crown once again, tune again next week for another exciting episode of The Lying Ranger and his pal Lying Skunkles

http://fxn.ws/2cmp27p

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 14, 2016 05:58 AM (mpXpK)

758 But who is he really campaigning for; Scankles or himself?

http://bit.ly/2cMsY28

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 14, 2016 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

759 The animal rights loons have their panties in a wad because the Choom's minions plan to kill 45,000 wild horses. Perhaps the feds can get these loons to board these horses. I have a friend who retired about a year after me who turned a farm he inherited into a horse farm that boards horses for people $50/month just to pasture them, $150/month if he feeds them (per horse). At 45,000 horses that would not be too much would it?

http://fxn.ws/2cdxYP4

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 14, 2016 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

760 Hundreds of demonstrators gathered in Austin, Texas, to protest what they claim is a demeaning and insulting Mexican-American studies textbook.

Looking at the picture Fox used on this propaganda story I would question that "hundreds" statement. Typical close-up to make you think it is part of a large crowd. Most likely that photo is pretty much all that showed up for this BS protest. Probably more reporters than protestors.

http://bit.ly/2cuLfQe

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 14, 2016 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

761 Yes, Ivanka Trump is a hawt babe, and yes she is a liberal who probably votes the straight Democrat ticket. She is busy trying to lose conservative votes for Trump.

http://fxn.ws/2cpXz6Y