Mid-Morning Open Thread [CBD]

The Wedding at Cana
Paolo Veronese

This is an absolutely spectacular painting that is simply too big and complex to appreciate on a computer monitor or phone. But it's amazing, so give it a shot.

By the way, it is 22 feet x 33 feet, so even up close and personal it will be overwhelming.
H/T JTB

Posted by: Open Blogger at 09:45 AM

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1 nice

Posted by: phoenixgirl, whatever at September 06, 2016 09:45 AM (0O7c5)

2 Heck of a wedding - and an open bar!

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Get Your Campaign F.U.D. Fix at the Outrage Outlet! New Shipments Arrive Daily! at September 06, 2016 09:47 AM (hLRSq)

3 This ain't no Perrier, this ain't no Dasani, this ain't no fooling around!

Posted by: D Byrne at September 06, 2016 09:47 AM (7cqHD)

4 I thought for sure the sniper would be up in that bell tower in the distance. But I don't see him. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean he's NOT there.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at September 06, 2016 09:48 AM (1zARK)

5 Lot of good spots for a sniper.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 06, 2016 09:48 AM (KUaJL)

6 This is an absolutely spectacular painting that is simply too big and complex to appreciate on a computer monitor or phone.

In other words, those of us on phones will never see the pr0n, Waldo, or the sni

Posted by: rickb223 at September 06, 2016 09:49 AM (Gzt/W)

7 Amazing isn't it? One of those painting where it just calls for hours of silent contemplation.

Posted by: IC at September 06, 2016 09:49 AM (KTFfX)

8 Wedding?Candlesticks make a good gift.

Posted by: steevy at September 06, 2016 09:49 AM (fA75F)

9 Kitteh's high on some grass that got turned into catnip.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 06, 2016 09:50 AM (9krrF)

10 I wanted to show a real mother of a blowout for The Last Supper but the cranky old Pope insisted on just 12 Disciples and 1 Christ. Bloody fascist!

Posted by: Michelangelo at September 06, 2016 09:50 AM (JO9+V)

11 By the way, it is 22 feet x 33 feet

-

So, I guess over the fireplace mantel is out.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 06, 2016 09:51 AM (7ZVPa)

12 I thought for sure the sniper would be up in that bell tower in the distance. But I don't see him. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean he's NOT there.

THE ANGELS ABOVE THE BELL TOWER ARE THE SNI

Posted by: rickb223 at September 06, 2016 09:51 AM (Gzt/W)

13 Amphorae Party!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at September 06, 2016 09:51 AM (WlGX+)

14 The Temperance Movement always conveniently forgot Christ's first miracle. There's simply no rectifying their belief structure with the canon.

(Said as he's sipping on a cider, naturally.)

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 06, 2016 09:51 AM (HalrA)

15

"How big is it?!"

To scale:

[pic of a pic]

http://tinyurl.com/zp43mob

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 06, 2016 09:52 AM (kdS6q)

16 For a wedding that took place in Israel in the first millennium AD that looks suspiciously like Renaissance Italy...but yes, it's a feast for the eyes.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at September 06, 2016 09:52 AM (RD7QR)

17 8 Wedding?Candlesticks make a good gift.

Posted by: steevy at September 06, 2016 09:49 AM (fA75F)

Yeah. Let's find out where they're registered.

Posted by: Gran at September 06, 2016 09:52 AM (XIXhw)

18
By the way, it is 22 feet x 33 feet
-
So, I guess over the fireplace mantel is out.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 06, 2016 09:51 AM

Unless you have a Charles Foster Kane fireplace.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 06, 2016 09:53 AM (IqV8l)

19 The Temperance Movement always conveniently forgot Christ's first miracle. There's simply no rectifying their belief structure with the canon.

Christ used a canon?

I figured him more of a Nikon man.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 06, 2016 09:54 AM (Gzt/W)

20 Fish or pasta? Salad?

NEXT!

Posted by: JEM at September 06, 2016 09:54 AM (TppKb)

21 Once again I couldn't get the link to come up on my computer so if anyone else has a problem here is a different link.

http://www.wga.hu/art/v/veronese/06/2cana.jpg

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 06, 2016 09:55 AM (mpXpK)

22 They had Chihuahua dogs in Renaissance Italy or was Obama invited to the wedding too?

Posted by: andycanuck at September 06, 2016 09:56 AM (LdMbv)

23 This was at the Louvre & somehow I missed it. In my defense, I spent a day there & only got to see about 2/3rds of the collection.

Posted by: josephistan at September 06, 2016 09:57 AM (7HtZB)

24 20 Fish or pasta? Salad?

NEXT!
Posted by: JEM at September 06, 2016 09:54 AM (TppKb)

Child, 12 or under

Posted by: josephistan at September 06, 2016 09:57 AM (7HtZB)

25
It is paintings like this that make me wish for a time machine so I could go see what it really looked like.

Posted by: Dee Rigula at September 06, 2016 09:58 AM (ckW/P)

26 They had Chihuahua dogs in Renaissance Italy or was Obama invited to the wedding too?

Finger food?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 06, 2016 09:58 AM (Gzt/W)

27 somehow I missed it.

Posted by: zombie Paolo Veronese at September 06, 2016 09:58 AM (LdMbv)

28 OK, nitpickers, please let us know that the clothes & architecture aren't accurate for 1st Century Israel.

Posted by: josephistan at September 06, 2016 09:58 AM (7HtZB)

29 In a rare departure from tradition, I shall NOT rename this painting.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 06, 2016 09:58 AM (mvenn)

30 20 Fish or pasta? Salad?

NEXT!

Posted by: JEM at September 06, 2016 09:54 AM (TppKb)

Yes, I had the lasagna.

Posted by: Dr. Rumack at September 06, 2016 09:59 AM (XIXhw)

31
Stroke can give you dysphagia too

Thickened water

This women has brain damage

Posted by: ThunderB at September 06, 2016 09:59 AM (O0Cmi)

32
Veronese depicts, with apparent ease, no less than 130 feast-goers, mixing biblical figures with men and women of the period.

"Oy, parking is going to be a bitch. Try to get a spot by the exit or we'll be forever getting out of the lot."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 06, 2016 09:59 AM (kdS6q)

33 Christ used a canon?

I'm told it was a 108.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 06, 2016 10:00 AM (9krrF)

34
Walking on water might be an awesome miracle, but after you do it the first time to impress the ladies, it kind of loses it's cool factor.

"Oh great, Cur's gonna do the pond-walking shit again." *makes jerk-off motion*

Water to wine, however.......

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 06, 2016 10:01 AM (xxSK3)

35 I think that, by definition, Jesus was the best man at this wedding.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 06, 2016 10:01 AM (mvenn)

36 No one goes to weddings in Cana any more. It's too crowded.

Posted by: zombie yogi berra at September 06, 2016 10:02 AM (LdMbv)

37 Making wine here?
You have a liquor license?

Posted by: BATF at September 06, 2016 10:02 AM (QM5S2)

38 Why DOES that back table look like The Last Supper??

Posted by: rickb223 at September 06, 2016 10:02 AM (Gzt/W)

39 The sniper is behind the statue in the upper left.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 06, 2016 10:02 AM (l7WNH)

40 But are they serving dog?

Posted by: Barack Obama at September 06, 2016 10:02 AM (OZmbA)

41 Are there any women at this wedding? Looks like a sausage fest!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 06, 2016 10:03 AM (nx6Qx)

42
The bride and groom are seated at the left end of the table, leaving the center place to the figure of Christ. He is surrounded by the Virgin, his disciples, clerks, princes, Venetian noblemen, Orientals in turbans, several servants, and the populace. Several dogs, birds, a parakeet, and a cat frolic amidst the crowd.

"So I'll make the kangaroo into a disciple..."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 06, 2016 10:03 AM (kdS6q)

43 So what's up with Greta leaving Fox News effective immediately?

Posted by: Jaimo at September 06, 2016 10:04 AM (9U1OG)

44 Why DOES that back table look like The Last Supper??
He's stealing my move!

Posted by: zombie leonardo da vinci at September 06, 2016 10:04 AM (LdMbv)

45
Honey, why is the frickin' carpenter sitting in the center of the table???? ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL ME SOMETHING, YOU HUSSY!!!!!????!???

Posted by: The Groom At Cana at September 06, 2016 10:04 AM (xxSK3)

46 Damn I thought I would sneak in an Obama eating dog joke but somebody already beat me to it inside 40 comments!

Posted by: Sphynx at September 06, 2016 10:05 AM (OZmbA)

47 And no bloody kangaroos!!!

Posted by: zombie pope julius ii at September 06, 2016 10:05 AM (LdMbv)

48 >>43
So what's up with Greta leaving Fox News effective immediately? Posted by: Jaimo at September 06, 2016 10:04 AM (9U1OG)

When Xenu calls, he calls collect.

Posted by: General Zod at September 06, 2016 10:05 AM (Bdeb0)

49 Beautiful painting. On topic, my eldest kidlet's wedding went very well. As far as I know, no fights broke out. Shorter haircut, high humidity and white hair means I looked like a dandelion in pictures. Feet still hurt from wearing real shoes, but I was approved for costuming. Daughter and new son looked great and I am happy that after 10 years together, they finally decided to make it official. Optimist that I am, I figure I won't hear about who I could have possibly offended for another month or two -- maybe by Christmas I'll get the skinny on that.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 06, 2016 10:06 AM (MIKMs)

50 Nearest balcony, upper left.

Putin was there.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 06, 2016 10:06 AM (JO9+V)

51 So what's up with Greta leaving Fox News effective immediately?

Maybe nobody would grab her ass?

Posted by: Roland [OMITTED] at September 06, 2016 10:06 AM (QM5S2)

52 The guy in the bottom left in the orange looks like he is getting serviced under the table.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 06, 2016 10:06 AM (BC5E+)

53 I'm pretty sure there's an alien spaceship in the sky there....

Posted by: Giorgio Tsoukalos at September 06, 2016 10:07 AM (Enq6K)

54 The next time H tells T to release his tax returns he should say right after your medical records.

Posted by: UGH at September 06, 2016 10:07 AM (TwnkX)

55 So what's up with Greta leaving Fox News effective immediately?

Maybe nobody would grab her ass?

Posted by: Roland [OMITTED]

Or she recognizes that the incoming left swing will turn the joint to shit.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 06, 2016 10:07 AM (9krrF)

56 My guess is Greta is going back to the mother ship (CNN).

Posted by: Sphynx at September 06, 2016 10:07 AM (OZmbA)

57 43
So what's up with Greta leaving Fox News effective immediately?

Posted by: Jaimo at September 06, 2016 10:04 AM (9U1OG)

Wait...wut?

Posted by: Tami at September 06, 2016 10:08 AM (Enq6K)

58 Posted by: mustbequantum at September 06, 2016 10:06 AM (MIKMs)

You put me at the back table in the corner? After all I've done for you?

Pretty snooty, aren't you.....

Posted by: mustbequantum's 3rd cousin twice removed by marriage at September 06, 2016 10:08 AM (Zu3d9)

59 Greta to join a post-election Bannon-Aisles venture?

iirc she was loyal to Aisles?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at September 06, 2016 10:08 AM (WlGX+)

60 >>Or she recognizes that the incoming left swing will turn the joint to shit.

Greta is far from a right winger.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 06, 2016 10:08 AM (/tuJf)

61 Greta belongs on ET or some shit like that.

Posted by: Roland [OMITTED] at September 06, 2016 10:08 AM (QM5S2)

62
This work of 70 m� occupied Veronese for 15 months, most likely with the assistance of his brother Benedetto Caliari.

Only 15 months? Now I feel guilty about taking a week to finish paining the living-room. But in my defense, two coats and all that fiddly trim around the windows....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 06, 2016 10:08 AM (kdS6q)

63 Lovely painting, CBD. Thank you. And thanks to JTB for the suggestion.

mustbequantum, I was wondering how the wedding went! Glad the costume was approved and as for the haircut, eh, two weeks, right?

Big milestone out of the way, and it sounds like it was lovely.

Next up: learning how to turn on the oven.

Posted by: bluebell at September 06, 2016 10:08 AM (xpSCc)

64 Is that Jimmy Page in the foreground?

Posted by: dantesed at September 06, 2016 10:09 AM (88xKn)

65 46
Damn I thought I would sneak in an Obama eating dog joke but somebody already beat me to it inside 40 comments!

Posted by: Sphynx at September 06, 2016 10:05 AM (OZmbA)
Everybody makes this joke. But I doubt the Lightworker ever really ate a dog. Muslims don't like dogs very much, alive or dead. I'd guess eating one must be haram.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at September 06, 2016 10:09 AM (1zARK)

66 The guy in the bottom left in the orange looks like he is getting serviced under the table.

Police Academy style.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 06, 2016 10:09 AM (Gzt/W)

67

In real life, it was probably a dozen people, in a little two donkey farming village a mile off the main route and there were chickens and naked children.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hqm3t37

Posted by: Dee Rigula at September 06, 2016 10:09 AM (ckW/P)

68 Heck of a wedding - and an open bar!

and they saved the best for last!

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at September 06, 2016 10:10 AM (evdj2)

69 61 Greta belongs on ET or some shit like that.
Posted by: Roland [OMITTED] at September 06, 2016 10:08 AM (QM5S2)

Not.. with... Eliot's... dick...

Posted by: ET at September 06, 2016 10:10 AM (7HtZB)

70 "So, I guess over the fireplace mantel is out."

JWest says you can hang it over his smaller mantle.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 06, 2016 10:10 AM (ptqRm)

71 14 The Temperance Movement always conveniently forgot Christ's first miracle. There's simply no rectifying their belief structure with the canon.

(Said as he's sipping on a cider, naturally.)

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 06, 2016 09:51 AM (HalrA)

************************************

Some Protestant Sunday schools tell the kids it was really just grape juice-not wine. Or that that alcohol content was so small it was basically grape juice.

Posted by: Alex #11 at September 06, 2016 10:10 AM (EUMt/)

72 You guys know Rawhide?

Posted by: The Good Ol' Blues Brothers Boys Band at September 06, 2016 10:10 AM (JO9+V)

73 Greta is far from a right winger.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 06, 2016 10:08 AM (/tuJf)

This is true but I always found her to be a straight shooter....when I did watch Fox. Haven't for a couple of years. FBN is much better.

Posted by: Tami at September 06, 2016 10:10 AM (Enq6K)

74 >>69 61 Greta belongs on ET or some shit like that.
Posted by: Roland [OMITTED] at September 06, 2016 10:08 AM (QM5S2)

Not.. with... Eliot's... dick...
Posted by: ET

That made me LOL

Posted by: Sphynx at September 06, 2016 10:11 AM (OZmbA)

75 Greta is far from a right winger.

Posted by: JackStraw

Doesn't mean she doesn't see a serious drop in quality coming.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 06, 2016 10:11 AM (9krrF)

76 43
So what's up with Greta leaving Fox News effective immediately?

Posted by: Jaimo at September 06, 2016 10:04 AM (9U1OG)

That was announced some time ago. Her ratings among Fox viewers have always been not that good and lately they said they were tanking even further.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 06, 2016 10:11 AM (mpXpK)

77 Oh and speaking of FBN, Cavuto returns today.

Posted by: Tami at September 06, 2016 10:12 AM (Enq6K)

78 So what's up with Greta leaving Fox News effective immediately?

Posted by: Jaimo at September 06, 2016 10:04 AM (9U1OG)

What's up? She sued them and they are giving her 20 million to shut up and go away. pretty sweet deal

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 06, 2016 10:12 AM (zp+j1)

79
What's up? She sued them and they are giving her 20 million to shut up and go away. pretty sweet deal

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 06, 2016 10:12 AM (zp+j1)

You're thinking of Gretchen Carlson.

Posted by: Tami at September 06, 2016 10:12 AM (Enq6K)

80 >>Doesn't mean she doesn't see a serious drop in quality coming.

She's being replaced by Brit Hume. Upgrade in my book.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 06, 2016 10:12 AM (/tuJf)

81 Peter .... Rabbit??

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at September 06, 2016 10:13 AM (evdj2)

82 Everybody makes this joke. But I doubt the Lightworker ever really ate a dog. Muslims don't like dogs very much, alive or dead. I'd guess eating one must be haram.
Posted by: Agent Cooper at September 06, 2016 10:09 AM (1zARK)
------------------

I'm pretty sure it's in his book - he has eaten dog. I seem to remember Jim Treacher discovering this and making it known during the last election, when Mitt Romney was catching flak for putting his dog's crate on top of the car.

Posted by: bluebell at September 06, 2016 10:13 AM (xpSCc)

83 Obama ate dog?
Hell, all this time I thought it was dong.

Posted by: Dee Rigula at September 06, 2016 10:14 AM (ckW/P)

84 60
>>Or she recognizes that the incoming left swing will turn the joint to shit.

Greta is far from a right winger.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 06, 2016 10:08 AM (/tuJf)
Greta is worse than even a lefty moonbat. She's a huge Scientology cultist wackjob.I am not making this up. It's true.
Actually, lefty moonbats are de facto cultists too, so I'll leave it to you all to decide which is worse.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at September 06, 2016 10:14 AM (1zARK)

85 What's up? She sued them and they are giving her 20 million to shut up and go away. pretty sweet deal

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 06, 2016 10:12 AM (zp+j1)

You're thinking of Gretchen Carlson.
Posted by: Tami

Give me $20 million and you'll never see or hear from me again.

Ever.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 06, 2016 10:15 AM (Gzt/W)

86
Is that Jimmy Page in the foreground?

Posted by: dantesed at September 06, 2016 10:09 AM (88xKn)

Yeah, and he played the Wedding March so sloppily it sounded like Wagner.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 06, 2016 10:16 AM (xxSK3)

87
For the painting, the artist's fee was 324 ducats, plus board and lodging for 15 months, plus a barrel of wine.

Anyone know the Renaissance ducat to current dollar conversion?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 06, 2016 10:16 AM (kdS6q)

88 "Give me $20 million and you'll never see or hear from me again.

Ever."

Shit.

Give me twenty bucks, and a free Trump lawn sign....and I'm outta here.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 06, 2016 10:16 AM (ptqRm)

89 She did sue and got $20M from Fox over alleged harassment from Ailes. But I am "sure" Fox would not fire her for that since that would be illegal retaliation which our corrupt DOJ would hop all over.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 06, 2016 10:16 AM (mpXpK)

90 First open bar wedding?

Posted by: xpo172 at September 06, 2016 10:16 AM (1PDwB)

91 I think I would let Roger Aisles touch my hiney for $20 million.

Posted by: Sphynx at September 06, 2016 10:17 AM (OZmbA)

92 I don't see a sniper. Though there are plenty of people there that look like they could be a sploody mooselimb.

Posted by: Bruce at September 06, 2016 10:17 AM (8ikIW)

93 My emails about Chelsea's wedding, like this painting, *cough*..*cough*...were epic...*cough, cough, cough, cough...*

Posted by: Hillary=> at September 06, 2016 10:17 AM (/m8T6)

94 OT DVR news:

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full, including the hit "(Don't Fear) The Reaper." From L.A.

Posted by: DaveA at September 06, 2016 10:17 AM (8J/Te)

95 Yeah, and he played the Wedding March so sloppily it sounded like Wagner.

Ride of the Valkyries should be played when the m-i-l is escorted in......

Posted by: rickb223 at September 06, 2016 10:17 AM (Gzt/W)

96 I was going to get up and take a closer look at the picture but then I coughed...and sharted.

Posted by: hillary "Felon" Clinton at September 06, 2016 10:17 AM (22uju)

97 "the artist's fee was 324 ducats, plus board and lodging for 15 months, plus a barrel of wine."

Perhaps the origin of our very own, much beloved Barrel?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 06, 2016 10:18 AM (ptqRm)

98 You can tell this drawing is a fake because the person in the Apostle John position is not a girl.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 06, 2016 10:18 AM (mgbwf)

99 Found the doggehs!

Posted by: rickl at September 06, 2016 10:18 AM (zoehZ)

100 I see nowhere in Scripture where Jesus, in arare moment of whimsy, transports the entire wedding party to the 16th Century.

Posted by: troyriser at September 06, 2016 10:19 AM (OGbEB)

101 "the artist's fee was 324 ducats, plus board and lodging for 15 months, plus a barrel of wine."

So the wine lasted him, what, a week?

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at September 06, 2016 10:20 AM (RD7QR)

102 Cana - it was one heck of a party, especially after they rolled out the better wine.

Posted by: mindful webworker - roll out the barrel at September 06, 2016 10:20 AM (w46Mb)

103
Perhaps the origin of our very own, much beloved Barrel?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 06, 2016 10:18 AM (ptqRm)

Beloved? I'm thinking more along the lines of Eldritch Horror.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 06, 2016 10:20 AM (xxSK3)

104 Laurie David' Cervix, generally they went by metal content. So many states had varying levels of purity, for example for the Norther European pennies, to trade them one for one would put a good Silver Polish penny valued the same as a lead Prussian one.
This by the way was the first major intellectual work done by Copernicus, the essential invention of Gresham's law

Anyhow, does this painting have a definite Maxfield Parrish vibe to it?

Posted by: Kindltot at September 06, 2016 10:20 AM (e9hKK)

105 Okay. Everybody on the dance floor for "The Chicken Dance"!!!

Posted by: 1st Century Wedding DJ at September 06, 2016 10:20 AM (8ikIW)

106 "Found the doggies!"

leg and a thigh please?

Posted by: Barky McFcukstick at September 06, 2016 10:20 AM (ptqRm)

107 What's up? She sued them and they are giving her 20 million to shut up and go away. pretty sweet deal

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 06, 2016 10:12 AM (zp+j1)

You're thinking of Gretchen Carlson.
Posted by: Tami at September 06, 2016 10:12 AM (Enq6K)

Oh that greta? Never mind. LOL

Ya can't swing your arms around here without hitting a Great?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 06, 2016 10:21 AM (zp+j1)

108 Andy Warhol did a series of religious paintings and drawings where Jesus and the other figures are dressed in (then) contemporary fashions and surroundings. Believe it or not, but those Warhol paintings and drawings are--in their way--very reverent and respectful.

Posted by: troyriser at September 06, 2016 10:22 AM (OGbEB)

109
The detail in the painting is staggering. Above Jesus, on the elevated walkway on the other side of the ballustrade, a butcher is cutting up meat; while a porter (right) arrives with more supplies. At the foot of the picture, a barefoot manservant (right) pours red wine from a large, ornate cask into a pitcher. Standing behind the servant, studying the contents of his wine glass is Benedetto Caliari (Veronese's brother). A black-skinned, servant boy (far-left) offers a glass of wine to the bridegroom; behind him, a dwarf is holding a bright green parrot.

"A dwarf? How did a dwarf get in here? I'm not paying $30 a setting for a dwarf. If he's hungry, he can eat off your plate."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 06, 2016 10:22 AM (kdS6q)

110 Wait; Greta - Gretchen; who are we talking about here?

Greta is allegedly leaving because she liked Ailes who was fired over Gretchen.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 06, 2016 10:22 AM (mpXpK)

111 "Perhaps the origin of our very own, much beloved Barrel?"

The Origin of Our Barrel owes more to Pandora's Box than anything holy.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Get Your Campaign F.U.D. Fix at the Outrage Outlet! New Shipments Arrive Daily! at September 06, 2016 10:22 AM (hLRSq)

112 Van Susteren, who gained notoriety during the O.J. Simpson murder trial as a legal analyst on CNN, had been with Fox News since 2002 and was a staple on the network.

It was not immediately clear why Van Susteren was leaving the network. The news came the same day 21st Century Fox announced it had settled former host Gretchen Carlsons sexual harassment lawsuit against ex-CEO Roger Ailes. Several Fox News hosts had key-man clauses allowing them to exit if Ailes were to depart.

Hey FOX, I got some free time and i work cheap

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 06, 2016 10:23 AM (zp+j1)

113 >>>By the way, it is 22 feet x 33 feet, so even up close and personal it will be overwhelming.<<<

It's a,
Nice day for a,
Wide wedding.
It's a,
Nice day for,
Art again!

Posted by: Billy Idol at September 06, 2016 10:23 AM (H9MG5)

114 Just clicked on the pic and examined the bigger version up close. Nobody is smiling and some people look positively sour-pussed. I conclude this is before they rolled out the good wine.

Jesus has kind of a blank look on his face. I suspect he's contemplating how to make the party livelier.

Posted by: mindful webworker - saved the best for last said the host at September 06, 2016 10:23 AM (w46Mb)

115 87
For the painting, the artist's fee was 324 ducats, plus board and lodging for 15 months, plus a barrel of wine.

Anyone know the Renaissance ducat to current dollar conversion?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 06, 2016 10:16 AM (kdS6q)

I've found a site that converts currency back to the 17th century in some cases, but not earlier. However, it appears that a ducat was equal to about $25, so 324 would be $8,100 for 15 months work, plus room, food & wine. A bargain.

http://tinyurl.com/zyak2ea

Posted by: josephistan at September 06, 2016 10:24 AM (7HtZB)

116 California State University Los Angeles recently rolled out segregated housing for black students.

Anyone else notice under Fredo we are going backwards in race relations?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 06, 2016 10:24 AM (zp+j1)

117 Dear Fox News,

For $20 million you can grope me for a year too.

Posted by: Vodka 4 the win at September 06, 2016 10:24 AM (V8Aub)

118 43
So what's up with Greta leaving Fox News effective immediately?

Posted by: Jaimo at September 06, 2016 10:04 AM (9U1OG)

Interesting. Recently read an article in NY Mag about a book that some is writing or perhaps it was just an expose -- something like Ailes Angels. Anyway, part of it was interesting for the discussion of the future of Fox News. If I recall correctly, Brit Hume, is a patron the horrid little Megyn. But I am be recalling incorrectly.

Posted by: gracepc at September 06, 2016 10:25 AM (OU4q6)

119 >>>"A dwarf? How did a dwarf get in here? I'm not paying $30 a setting for a dwarf. If he's hungry, he can eat off your plate."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 06, 2016 10:22 AM (kdS6q)<<<

He gets tossed after the bouquet and the garter belt.

Posted by: old timey wedding planner at September 06, 2016 10:25 AM (H9MG5)

120 No more wedding bell blues for her.

Posted by: Bill the Groom at September 06, 2016 10:25 AM (JO9+V)

121 We never ran out of wine at my daughters recent wedding either, though it wasn't a miracle, it was that we were at a vineyard and my daughter nailed my wallet open.

Posted by: MTF at September 06, 2016 10:25 AM (/m8T6)

122 I see nowhere in Scripture where Jesus, in arare moment of whimsy, transports the entire wedding party to the 16th Century.

Blame the Council of Nicea. There was all kinds of hijinx in there, some calamitous road trips, and even a dick joke or two.

Then the Bores at the Council said, "nope, four gospels, and bunch of letters, and one acid trip and that's all".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 06, 2016 10:25 AM (mgbwf)

123 "Anyone else notice under Fredo we are going backwards in race relations?"

That's a feature, not a bug.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 06, 2016 10:26 AM (ptqRm)

124 Posted by: gracepc at September 06, 2016 10:25 AM (OU4q6)

Hume to step in for Greta.

Posted by: gracepc at September 06, 2016 10:26 AM (OU4q6)

125 108 Andy Warhol did a series of religious paintings and drawings where Jesus and the other figures are dressed in (then) contemporary fashions and surroundings. Believe it or not, but those Warhol paintings and drawings are--in their way--very reverent and respectful.
Posted by: troyriser at September 06, 2016 10:22 AM (OGbEB)

Warhol was an odd bird - shocking, I know. He attended Mass every Sunday, but didn't receive Communion.

Posted by: josephistan at September 06, 2016 10:26 AM (7HtZB)

126 California State University Los Angeles recently rolled out segregated housing for black students.

--

Ethnic cleansing.

Posted by: Dee Rigula at September 06, 2016 10:26 AM (ckW/P)

127 114 Just clicked on the pic and examined the bigger version up close. Nobody is smiling and some people look positively sour-pussed. I conclude this is before they rolled out the good wine.

Jesus has kind of a blank look on his face. I suspect he's contemplating how to make the party livelier.
Posted by: mindful web worker - saved the best for last said the host at September 06, 2016 10:23 AM (w46Mb)
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I suspect we are looking at that moment in time right before the miraculous wine is handed round. That's why Jesus looks so pensive; He knows that This Is It. The steward on the lower left is handing the first glass to the master of the house to taste.

At least, that's the way I, with no art history training at all, see it.

Posted by: bluebell at September 06, 2016 10:27 AM (xpSCc)

128 >>Anyone else notice under Fredo we are going backwards in race relations?

I'm no Nostradamus but I remember saying before the '08 election that if Obama was elected race relations would take a huge step backwards.

Not a real tough call given Obama's history or race baiting and "community organizing".

Posted by: JackStraw at September 06, 2016 10:27 AM (/tuJf)

129
For the painting, the artist's fee was 324 ducats, plus board and lodging for 15 months, plus a barrel of wine.

Anyone know the Renaissance ducat to current dollar conversion?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 06, 2016 10:16 AM (kdS6q)

I've found a site that converts currency back to the 17th century in some cases, but not earlier. However, it appears that a ducat was equal to about $25, so 324 would be $8,100 for 15 months work, plus room, food & wine. A bargain.

http://tinyurl.com/zyak2ea

Posted by: josephistan at September 06, 2016 10:24 AM (7HtZB)

I've read that the price of a simple meal is remarkably constant throughout history (barring outliers like Zimbabwe-esque collapsed economies), and is often used as a starting point for such calculations.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 06, 2016 10:27 AM (xxSK3)

130 Christ in this painting looks really bored.

Posted by: JackS at September 06, 2016 10:27 AM (hgwL9)

131 115 Posted by: josephistan at September 06, 2016 10:24 AM (7HtZB)
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And free medical insurance, thanks to the Democrat Party!

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at September 06, 2016 10:27 AM (/m8T6)

132 Where's Waldogoldstein?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at September 06, 2016 10:28 AM (nkCeM)

133 This painting needs a baby's arm, holding an apple.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at September 06, 2016 10:28 AM (WlGX+)

134 California State University Los Angeles recently rolled out segregated housing for black students.

Anyone else notice under Fredo we are going backwards in race relations?

At least 70 years backwards.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 06, 2016 10:29 AM (Gzt/W)

135 fabulous, love it, can you imagine sewing those clothes back in the day.

Posted by: willow at September 06, 2016 10:29 AM (A1MMY)

136 No more wedding bell blues for her.
Posted by: Bill the Groom

No more hummers for you.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 06, 2016 10:29 AM (Gzt/W)

137 Christ in this painting looks really bored.

Posted by: JackS

He's waiting for the garter toss.

Posted by: Bruce at September 06, 2016 10:29 AM (8ikIW)

138 There doesn't seem to be any Orion slave girls dancing.

That would have been a miracle for the ages.

Posted by: Dee Rigula at September 06, 2016 10:29 AM (ckW/P)

139 I'm putting in a plug for one of my favorite, and more unusual radio shows: Speaking of Art.

It's an hour long show, Saturdays 3 - 4. The host does interviews and analyses -- he takes frequent trips to, e.g., NYC, Chicago, Europe, so it's not just about SE Michigan. But even the SE Michigan-centric stuff is good --e.g. a nifty interview Ed did of a local silhouette artist.

It's all about art -- mostly visual -- and it's great. Too bad they don't archive it. But take a listen. There's a listen live button on the upper right.

http://www.waamradio.com /shows/saturdays /speaking-of-art -- remove blanks.

May as well plug the musical side of WAAM as well, starting with the Bone Conduction Music Show: hip-shakin', wig-singeing.

And since I'm doing this, WAAM has two gun talk shows and two black conservative religious-oriented shows. There are a few stinkers in the line-up, but it is, on the whole, stunning radio.

Posted by: sinmi at September 06, 2016 10:30 AM (Qlgte)

140 Nice painting, if historically inaccurate. Jesus didn't make alcoholic wine, he made what was known as "new wine" or grape juice.

He wouldn't have used leaven, which is what you need to ferment wine.

Posted by: ALH at September 06, 2016 10:30 AM (uLuPn)

141
CNBC did its election segment. Anything on the Beast's latest scandals? Nope. Trump flip flops, Trump bad this Trump bad that.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 06, 2016 10:31 AM (493sH)

142 Next time I visit the France (international man of mystery that I am) I'm doing a photo essay on the Pooches of the Louvre. They crop up everywhere.

Two fine specimens front and center here.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at September 06, 2016 10:31 AM (Iy6JT)

143 137 Christ in this painting looks really bored.

Posted by: JackS

Christ! In this painting, Luke's really bored.

Posted by: Alternate Inflections at September 06, 2016 10:31 AM (XIXhw)

144 134 California State University Los Angeles recently rolled out segregated housing for black students.

Anyone else notice under Fredo we are going backwards in race relations?

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I expect to see the old SNL sketch "Cotton-Land," a theme park where white people can work off their guilt by living like a slave for a day, become a reality in a few years.

Posted by: josephistan at September 06, 2016 10:31 AM (7HtZB)

145 The Greek Prog-rockers Aphrodite's Child actually did make a psychedelic acid trip Rock Opera out of The Revelation. Their keyboard player was the pre-solo fame Vangelis. It's pretty...trippy as I recall.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at September 06, 2016 10:31 AM (WlGX+)

146 You can always count on the Left to be classy
when a conservative dies.

Esp. if they (the deceased conservative) happen to be a woman or black,

http://tinyurl.com/jru4w8j

Posted by: McCool at September 06, 2016 10:32 AM (TQxRy)

147 "Anyone else notice under Fredo we are going backwards in race relations?

At least 70 years backwards."

I have an odd feeling that the next black presidential candidate is gonna have a really tough uphill battle.

Based purely on his skin color.

And that is just wrong...on many levels.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 06, 2016 10:32 AM (ptqRm)

148 143 137 Christ in this painting looks really bored.

Posted by: JackS

Christ! In this painting, Luke's really bored.
Posted by: Alternate Inflections at September 06, 2016 10:31 AM (XIXhw)

Well, he hasn't even left Tatooine yet.

Posted by: josephistan at September 06, 2016 10:32 AM (7HtZB)

149 No more hummers for you.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 06, 2016 10:29 AM (Gzt/W)

The Horde never disappoints.

Posted by: Golfman at September 06, 2016 10:32 AM (b6FQn)

150 Jesus didn't make alcoholic wine, he made what was known as "new wine" or grape juice.

That's a pretty paltry miracle.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 06, 2016 10:32 AM (mgbwf)

151 The painting is OK I guess, but it needs more cowbell

Posted by: Christopher Walken at September 06, 2016 10:33 AM (/m8T6)

152 That's a pretty paltry miracle.

Posted by: Bandersnatch

Had a can of Welches concentrate up his sleeve.

Posted by: Bruce at September 06, 2016 10:33 AM (8ikIW)

153 California State University Los Angeles recently rolled out segregated housing for black students.

Anyone else notice under Fredo we are going backwards in race relations?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 06, 2016 10:24 AM (zp+j1)

Are they going to roll out white and colored drinking fountains? Because without those it would be very racist

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 06, 2016 10:33 AM (493sH)

154 Jesus didn't make alcoholic wine, he made what was known as "new wine" or grape juice.

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So the wedding guests were astonished that they saved the best grape juice for last? Please.

Posted by: josephistan at September 06, 2016 10:33 AM (7HtZB)

155 Why, there's a wench! Come on and kiss me Kate.

Posted by: Petruchio at September 06, 2016 10:33 AM (JO9+V)

156 "No more hummers for you.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 06, 2016 10:29 AM (Gzt/W) "

The bride always smiles at a wedding.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 06, 2016 10:34 AM (ptqRm)

157 Jesus didn't make alcoholic wine, he made what was known as "new wine" or grape juice.

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Where do you get that? I've never heard that so curious.

Posted by: SH at September 06, 2016 10:34 AM (gmeXX)

158 Posted by: sinmi at September 06, 2016 10:30 AM

sinmi; I've been singing WAAM's praises for a while around here...are you in or around The Peoples' Republik of AnnArbor?

I think Speaking of Art is archived, just not on the WAAM site

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 06, 2016 10:34 AM (ZQfW9)

159
While many figures in the picture interact with one another, none of them are actually speaking. This is to comply with the code of silence observed by all Benedictine monks in the refectory where the painting was to hang.

"I'm so embarrassed! You didn't talk to anybody all night."

"But Honey, the monks..."

"Don't Honey me! You couldn't have a simple conversation at dinner with my family?"

"But..."

"Fine. You don't want to talk, how about we don't talk all the way back to Phoenix."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 06, 2016 10:35 AM (kdS6q)

160 troyriser #100: I see nowhere in Scripture where Jesus, in a rare moment of whimsy, transports the entire wedding party to the 16th Century.

The "rare moment of whimsy" made me chuckle.

Posted by: mindful webworker - easily amused at September 06, 2016 10:35 AM (w46Mb)

161 Nice painting, if historically inaccurate. Jesus didn't make alcoholic wine, he made what was known as "new wine" or grape juice.

He wouldn't have used leaven, which is what you need to ferment wine.

Posted by: ALH at September 06, 2016 10:30 AM (uLuPn)

He made wine, that drink which is mentioned hundreds of times throughout the Bible and--when one drank too much of it--one got drunk.

These odd contortions some go through to explain away very simple things gets tiresome.

Posted by: troyriser at September 06, 2016 10:35 AM (OGbEB)

162 I've never imagined the wedding at Cana to be surrounded by Greek Columns (Obama would approve I guess).

Posted by: SH at September 06, 2016 10:35 AM (gmeXX)

163 "Are they going to roll out white and colored drinking fountains? Because without those it would be very racist"

"No Whites allowed" signs should be cropping up everywhere.

Water fountains
Dorms
Lunch counters.
Movie theaters

That would really get this movement going.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 06, 2016 10:36 AM (ptqRm)

164 It's not hard to figure, Jesus never sinned, and the OT is full of references to the use of alcohol being sinful (Woe to him who gives his brother Drink, etc.)

Posted by: ALH at September 06, 2016 10:36 AM (uLuPn)

165 If any college in the country rolled out a segregated dorm for whites our corrupt DOJ would be on them like stink on shit within a micro-second.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 06, 2016 10:36 AM (mpXpK)

166 Gretchen Carlson gets 20 million!!! What a joke. I thought she would get 5 and be happy.

Why would she get 20million but a hospital or somebody either via negligence or gross negligence kills one of your children or severely injured them and you would be lucky to get 500,000 to a million.

Andrea Tantaros is next for a 30 million dollar setttlement.

What a fucking joke.

Posted by: Pepe, founder of the fn-right at September 06, 2016 10:37 AM (0fbbp)

167 Here is another very large painting at the Louvre. Napoleon crowning himself Emperor.

http://tinyurl.com/zc427rn

That place was awesome.

Posted by: Timon at September 06, 2016 10:37 AM (396pH)

168 70 "So, I guess over the fireplace mantel is out."

JWest says you can hang it over his smaller mantle.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 06, 2016 10:10 AM (ptqRm)

The one in the bathroom, near the tub.

Posted by: jwest at September 06, 2016 10:37 AM (Zs4uk)

169 I once went to a wedding out in Cana
Where the partygoers really went insane, duh.
Everyone was dancin'
The Disciples were a prancin'
And Jesus even did the Macarena!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 06, 2016 10:37 AM (mvenn)

170 so gretchen tapes ailes and his crude come ons to her and only uses them when she loses her job....wow......and gets 20m dollars for it......it's almost like extortion......isn't it.....

....and ailes could very well be a dirty filthy pig when it comes to the womynz but holy cow.....20m?

Posted by: phoenixgirl, whatever at September 06, 2016 10:37 AM (0O7c5)

171 Had a can of Welches concentrate up his sleeve.

Posted by: Bruce at September 06, 2016 10:33 AM (8ikIW)

But some of the guests stared at the can for a long time because it said "concentrate" on the side.

Posted by: Jeff Foxworthy at September 06, 2016 10:38 AM (XIXhw)

172 Who is gonna be the white Rosa Parks?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 06, 2016 10:38 AM (l7WNH)

173 Maybe not Welches.

Not back then, anyhow.

http://fxn.ws/1RjqeJk

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 06, 2016 10:40 AM (ptqRm)

174 He made wine, that drink which is mentioned hundreds of times throughout the Bible and--when one drank too much of it--one got drunk.

These odd contortions some go through to explain away very simple things gets tiresome.

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Drinking is not a sin. Jesus made wine a cornerstone of the new covenant. This wasn't alcohol free wine.

Drinking to excess is likely sinful.

I'm a sinful man.

Posted by: SH at September 06, 2016 10:40 AM (gmeXX)

175 sinmi; I've been singing WAAM's praises for a while around here...are you in or around The Peoples' Republik of AnnArbor?

Hi altonjackson: I work at EMU, which has a *fabulous* art program BTW, and live outside the wire of the actual belly-of-the-beast near Parker and Ellsworth.

Posted by: sinmi at September 06, 2016 10:40 AM (Qlgte)

176
"I'm so embarrassed! You didn't talk to anybody all night."
"But Honey, the monks..."
"Don't Honey me! You couldn't have a simple conversation at dinner with my family?"
"But..."
"Fine. You don't want to talk, how about we don't talk all the way back to Phoenix." Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 06, 2016 10:35 AM (kdS6q)
=====

LOL. Per usual, there were side bets on how long I could manage conversations with people. Good thing I am on such good terms with my ex's family so there was no awkwardness; although I despise my ex, the family has never been anything but great to me and my kids.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 06, 2016 10:40 AM (MIKMs)

177 That's a pretty paltry miracle.

It wasn't a real corker.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at September 06, 2016 10:40 AM (WlGX+)

178 Very modern looking painting.

Everyone is facing the "camera".

Posted by: naturalfake at September 06, 2016 10:40 AM (0cMkb)

179 There's a doggeh! Top left, sticking his nose through the balcony.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 06, 2016 10:40 AM (mgbwf)

180 It's not hard to figure, Jesus never sinned, and the OT is full of references to the use of alcohol being sinful (Woe to him who gives his brother Drink, etc.)

Posted by: ALH at September 06, 2016 10:36 AM (uLuPn)

There are also positive references to wine. Good grief.

Posted by: troyriser at September 06, 2016 10:41 AM (OGbEB)

181 >>You can always count on the Left to be classy

when a conservative dies.
Esp. if they (the deceased conservative) happen to be a woman or black...

They never forgave her for her fight (and victory) against ERA.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 06, 2016 10:42 AM (NOIQH)

182 I can envision the groom's elderly matron aunt cornering Jesus at the wedding dinner-

"So Jesus, bubbala. When are you going to settle down, find a nice Jewish girl? My friend Sophie's niece is a great girl! What a personality, and oy, can she cook! That's her over by the buffet table. You're not getting any younger you know..."

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 06, 2016 10:42 AM (mvenn)

183 "Want some wine in your water?"

"Sugar in your tea?"

What's all these crazy questions they're asking me?

This is the craziest party that could ever be!

Don't turn on the lights 'cause I don't wanna see.

Mama told me not to come.

Posted by: Jesus at September 06, 2016 10:43 AM (JO9+V)

184 Posted by: phoenixgirl, whatever at September 06, 2016 10:37 AM (0O7c5)

If Carlson's contract had been renewed most likely imo none of this would have happened. Extortion indeed. Ailes a dirtbag, but not unbeknownst.

Catherine Herridge brought her discrimination issues to Ailes and Fox. Her contract was renewed and her work excels over any of those who mewed and sued.

Posted by: gracepc at September 06, 2016 10:43 AM (OU4q6)

185 171 Had a can of Welches concentrate up his sleeve.

Posted by: Bruce at September 06, 2016 10:33 AM (8ikIW)

But some of the guests stared at the can for a long time because it said "concentrate" on the side.
Posted by: Jeff Foxworthy

So this was a Texas A & M wedding?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 06, 2016 10:43 AM (Gzt/W)

186 Drinking to excess is likely sinful.

I'm a sinful man.

Posted by: SH at September 06, 2016 10:40 AM (gmeXX)

1 Corinthians 6:10

Posted by: Jeff Foxworthy at September 06, 2016 10:44 AM (XIXhw)

187
"So Jesus, bubbala. When are you going to settle down, find a nice Jewish girl? My friend Sophie's niece is a great girl! What a personality, and oy, can she cook! That's her over by the buffet table. You're not getting any younger you know..."

Jesus was a carpenter.

I always thought they looked for Doctors.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 06, 2016 10:44 AM (ptqRm)

188

Ya, blame the wine for the excessive indulgence of human behavior.

Ok, take it another step and blame the bartender for making you drink to excess.

and is that guy, the one on his hands and knees in the lower left corner, at the end of the table, did he just puke? Or is he looking for a contact lense someone dropped?

Posted by: Dee Rigula at September 06, 2016 10:44 AM (ckW/P)

189 Ain't great Art or anything but....

paintwithgunpowder.com

Ought to be something that the horde will like

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 06, 2016 10:44 AM (gn7SU)

190 Out damned sock

Posted by: Gran at September 06, 2016 10:44 AM (XIXhw)

191 170 so gretchen tapes ailes and his crude come ons to her and only uses them when she loses her job....wow......and gets 20m dollars for it......it's almost like extortion......isn't it.....
____________________

She just filed that lawsuit like, what, a month ago? And now they're settling for $20 million?

There must have been something more there that somebody really wanted to keep from public view. Doesn't really make sense otherwise.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 06, 2016 10:45 AM (NnYnv)

192 EMU! Their "public" radio used to have the best R and B history in the country. Remember (this is an attempt to transliterate) Hasen Schumacher? Grumpy old prof type who apparently played in most of the Big Bands...what a wit.

When we provincial swains used to be allowed into the Arbor of Ann to see how it was done, it always seemed rather dour and trying-too-hard. People were def having a better time in Ypsi and Saline. And yes, in the day, Hillsdale was a party school...

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 06, 2016 10:45 AM (tIja6)

193 bluebell #127: I suspect we are looking at that moment in time right before the miraculous wine is handed round. That's why Jesus looks so pensive; He knows that This Is It. The steward on the lower left is handing the first glass to the master of the house to taste.

Aha! So I was right about all the sour faces. They're all just getting the news that the wine had run out...

It was Jesus' fault the wine ran out in the first place. Buncha uninvited folks showed up unexpectedly just because he was supposed to be there.

He was kind-of oblivious to this, though. When Mary told him about it, he says, "What've I got to do with that?" But then Mary gets the sadz, and, zap, instant wine. Who can resist a mom's tears!! Jesus was actually the most surprised at what he'd done.

Posted by: mindful webworker - one unconscious casual thought and zap! at September 06, 2016 10:45 AM (w46Mb)

194 Does this make sense to anyone?

Black Lives Matter UK, with the "full support" of the U.S. movement,
has shut down London City Airport because "environmental inequality is a
racist crisis", demanding more mass migration into Europe.

Blair's Law in action, yo!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 06, 2016 10:45 AM (NOIQH)

195 I'm trying to figure out what's in the bride's (?, woman at table bottom left) lap that the folks to her left are so interested in.

Posted by: random lurker at September 06, 2016 10:46 AM (+tRIN)

196 "So Jesus, bubbala. When are you going to settle
down, find a nice Jewish girl? My friend Sophie's niece is a great
girl! What a personality, and oy, can she cook! That's her over by the
buffet table. You're not getting any younger you know..."
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 06, 2016 10:42 AM (mvenn)

There is discussion that the Wedding at Cana was actually Jesus's wedding, the bride being Mary Magdalene. And discussion of how it was scrubbed out for various reasons, including issues with celibacy for the clergy.

Anyhow, I wonder if some of the disciples would have considered Mary to be like Yoko is considered by many today.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 06, 2016 10:46 AM (e9hKK)

197 "...in the day, Hillsdale was a party school..."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 06, 2016 10:45 AM (tIja6)

From what I hear, it still is. Pretty stiff tuition too.

Posted by: jwest at September 06, 2016 10:48 AM (Zs4uk)

198 I've read that the price of a simple meal is remarkably constant
throughout history (barring outliers like Zimbabwe-esque collapsed
economies), and is often used as a starting point for such calculations.
=======================

IIRC, in one of his books/columns, Col. Jeff Cooper once wrote that in the Burning Times, a .22 LR cartridge would buy a nice breakfast.

Posted by: mrp at September 06, 2016 10:48 AM (JBggj)

199 "So Jesus, bubbala. When are you going to settle down, find a nice Jewish girl? My friend Sophie's niece is a great girl! What a personality, and oy, can she cook!

That's her over by the buffet table.

And the cheese station. And the wine table.
And the bread ovens.....

Posted by: rickb223 at September 06, 2016 10:49 AM (Gzt/W)

200 Anyhow, I wonder if some of the disciples would have considered Mary to be like Yoko is considered by many today.

That's a theme in the Gnostic gospels. Mary was the disciple Jesus loved most and kissed on the mouth.

The others grumbled behind her back.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 06, 2016 10:49 AM (mgbwf)

201 ALH #140: Nice painting, if historically inaccurate. Jesus didn't make alcoholic wine, he made what was known as "new wine" or grape juice....

Um... at the risk of invoking theological disputation...

...the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. ... he called the bridegroom aside and said, "Everyone brings out the choice wine first and then the cheaper wine after the guests have had too much to drink; but you have saved the best till now."

Don't think you'd get that kind of praise with grape juice.

Posted by: mindful webworker - the good stuff at September 06, 2016 10:49 AM (w46Mb)

202 Anyhow, I wonder if some of the disciples would have considered Mary to be like Yoko is considered by many today.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 06, 2016 10:46 AM (e9hKK)

She broke up our band!

Posted by: Peter at September 06, 2016 10:50 AM (JO9+V)

203 Jesus didn't make alcoholic wine, he made what was known as "new wine" or grape juice.

I thought it was 'Mad Dog' 20/20.

Posted by: Roland [OMITTED] at September 06, 2016 10:50 AM (QM5S2)

204 Don't think you'd get that kind of praise with grape juice.

That's because you haven't had Jesus brand grape juice.

Made locally and is totally GMO free.
Minutes to your table and in your glass
Try some today

Posted by: Bruce at September 06, 2016 10:51 AM (8ikIW)

205 191 170 so gretchen tapes ailes and his crude come ons to her and only uses them when she loses her job....wow......and gets 20m dollars for it......it's almost like extortion......isn't it.....
____________________

She just filed that lawsuit like, what, a month ago? And now they're settling for $20 million?

There must have been something more there that somebody really wanted to keep from public view. Doesn't really make sense otherwise.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 06, 2016 10:45 AM (NnYnv)

The sound of falling and crying? A pig squealing? No meaning yes followed by sex? A knob slobbler?

Interesting that the same day Greta leaves Fox. Bet Greta has a great radar for BS and entrapment and blackmail. Greta ain't part of "the sisterhood".

Posted by: Pepe, founder of the fn-right at September 06, 2016 10:51 AM (0fbbp)

206 >>>>California State University Los Angeles recently rolled out segregated housing for black students.

--

Ethnic cleansing.
.
.
.
.Yea! Let's celebrate diversity by segregating the races. Yeah that will work.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 06, 2016 10:52 AM (iONHu)

207 Jesus didn't make alcoholic wine, he made what was known as "new wine" or grape juice.

I thought it was 'Mad Dog' 20/20.

Posted by: Roland [OMITTED] at September 06, 2016 10:50 AM (QM5S2)

TJ Nazarene "Easy Nights"

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 06, 2016 10:52 AM (JO9+V)

208 "Jesus didn't make alcoholic wine, he made what was known as "new wine" or grape juice."

Aged on the cart.

Ah...October.
An exceptionally good month, my good man.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 06, 2016 10:52 AM (ptqRm)

209
'New Wine' is wine that has just been fermented and not yet aged in barrels.

Go to any vineyard and they will let you tast New Wine. It's a bit sharper on the tongue 'cuz the ethanol hasn't mellowed yet.

Posted by: Dee Rigula at September 06, 2016 10:52 AM (ckW/P)

210 Seamus Muldoon #169: ...And Jesus even did the Macarena!

* sound of one hand clapping *

Posted by: mindful webworker - everyone's a critic...! at September 06, 2016 10:53 AM (w46Mb)

211
There is discussion that the Wedding at Cana was actually Jesus's wedding, the bride being Mary Magdalene

+++

Hard to believe a Jewish Rebbe wouldn't be.

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 06, 2016 10:53 AM (gn7SU)

212 Looks like the bartender is watering down the hootch.

Posted by: Fritz at September 06, 2016 10:54 AM (2Mnv1)

213 So that's what Paolo has been up to lately.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 06, 2016 10:54 AM (Z8DIA)

214 I've always thought it was very kind of Jesus to begin to unveil His divinity at a wedding. All of the guests having a good time with the newly married couple, when suddenly the parents find themselves awkwardly short of provisions for their guests. It would be like inviting ELO to do your daughter's wedding reception, and suddenly all the amps go dead. Or instead of beef tips, the caterer shows up with chili, no beans. The mom and dad would have been mortified. The bride was probably in meltdown mode. Jesus was reluctant to show Himself at this time, but He stepped in anyway to save the day. And the guests got much more than they expected. How kind. I wonder what the parents thought afterwards.

Posted by: grammie winger lives in two houses at September 06, 2016 10:54 AM (DLIpz)

215 "Jesus didn't make alcoholic wine, he made what was known as "new wine" or grape juice."

Aged on the cart.

Ah...October.

An exceptionally good month, my good man.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 06, 2016 10:52 AM (ptqRm)

Smooth! *coughing fit* *eyes water*

Posted by: The Great Escape at September 06, 2016 10:54 AM (JO9+V)

216 Go to any vineyard and they will let you tast New Wine. It's a bit sharper on the tongue 'cuz the ethanol hasn't mellowed yet.

One of the best marketing cons evah was the Beaujolais Nouveau craze of the '80s. "Hey, rush to buy our fresh wine that isn't ready yet".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 06, 2016 10:55 AM (mgbwf)

217 "I thought it was 'Mad Dog' 20/20."

What was that ghetto wine that used to be advertised with:

"Put a rocket in your pocket and fly sky high to the moon."?

Posted by: jwest at September 06, 2016 10:55 AM (Zs4uk)

218 The Gnostics were the Troofers of their day.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 06, 2016 10:56 AM (iLoHX)

219 167 Here is another very large painting at the Louvre. Napoleon crowning himself Emperor.

http://tinyurl.com/zc427rn

That place was awesome.
Posted by: Timon at September 06, 2016 10:37 AM (396pH)

Now that I saw.

Posted by: josephistan at September 06, 2016 10:57 AM (7HtZB)

220 If everyone was doing the Conga line at the wedding would they all have been healed etc at the same time?

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 06, 2016 10:57 AM (gn7SU)

221 202 Anyhow, I wonder if some of the disciples would have considered Mary to be like Yoko is considered by many today.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 06, 2016 10:46 AM (e9hKK)

She broke up our band!
Posted by: Peter

Christian Rock?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 06, 2016 10:57 AM (Gzt/W)

222 Jesus was reluctant to show Himself at this time, but He stepped in
anyway to save the day.
==============

Because His mother told him to. She was the only human with the authority to do so.

Posted by: mrp at September 06, 2016 10:58 AM (JBggj)

223 Kindltot: ...There is discussion that the Wedding at Cana was actually Jesus's wedding, the bride being Mary Magdalene. And discussion of how it was scrubbed out for various reasons, including issues with celibacy for the clergy....

There is discussion that Jesus never existed...

There is discussion that the apostles were all ghey...

You can make anything up and say it was scrubbed!

Reminds me of those weird-zone YouTubes. "Some say" the pyramids must have been built by extraterrestrials...

Posted by: mindful webworker - everyone's a critic...! at September 06, 2016 10:58 AM (w46Mb)

224 Here's a reviewer doing 5 bum wines.

http://tinyurl.com/35nnh

Posted by: Bruce at September 06, 2016 10:58 AM (8ikIW)

225 207 Jesus didn't make alcoholic wine, he made what was known as "new wine" or grape juice.

I thought it was 'Mad Dog' 20/20.

Posted by: Roland [OMITTED] at September 06, 2016 10:50 AM (QM5S2)

TJ Nazarene "Easy Nights"

Boone's Farm Nazarene Hill.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 06, 2016 10:59 AM (Gzt/W)

226 I always thought they looked for Doctors.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 06, 2016 10:44 AM (ptqRm)

I think they will settle for dentists and accountants...

Posted by: Timon at September 06, 2016 11:00 AM (396pH)

227 I'm pretty sure it's in his book - he has eaten dog.
I seem to remember Jim Treacher discovering this and making it known
during the last election, when Mitt Romney was catching flak for putting
his dog's crate on top of the car.

Posted by: bluebell at September 06, 2016 10:13 AM (xpSCc)
Not only is it in his book, there is video of him reading that passage out loud from the book.

Posted by: An Observation at September 06, 2016 11:00 AM (jaJI1)

228 What's the word?

Thunderbird!

Posted by: Colin Kaepernick at September 06, 2016 11:00 AM (97XyN)

229 The notion that a Jewish wedding would serve nonalcoholic wine is silly. I've been to one (Orthodox - it was in Israel, by law they have to be). Let's just say all the guests had a good time.

If we were Muslim we could get away with making up a bunch of sh!t to protect Jesus from violating arbitrary Quranic ordinances. Fortunately we don't have that problem.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 06, 2016 11:01 AM (fSiAi)

230 Man O Manischewitz!

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 06, 2016 11:02 AM (JO9+V)

231 Wine spodee-odee drinkin wine.

Posted by: Jerry Lee at September 06, 2016 11:02 AM (QM5S2)

232 What's the word?

Thunderbird!

What's the word? / Thunderbird / How's it sold? / Good and cold / What's the jive? / Bird's alive / What's the price? / Thirty twice."

Posted by: Bruce at September 06, 2016 11:02 AM (8ikIW)

233 What's the price ?

Thirty twice !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 06, 2016 11:02 AM (Z8DIA)

234 I always thought they looked for Doctors.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 06, 2016 10:44 AM (ptqRm)

Go for Tom Baker. He was the best of the bunch

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 06, 2016 11:02 AM (493sH)

235
324 ducats...

"The ducat was the gold coin of Venice which had 3.5 grams of gold"

So, about 1.2 kg of gold or $60k-ish at today's gold spot.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 06, 2016 11:02 AM (kdS6q)

236 Reminds me of those weird-zone YouTubes. "Some say" the pyramids must have been built by extraterrestrials...
Posted by: mindful webworker - everyone's a critic...! at September 06, 2016 10:58 AM (w46Mb)

Everyone knows they were built to store grain.

Posted by: Ben Carson at September 06, 2016 11:03 AM (7HtZB)

237 (Woe to him who gives his brother Drink, etc.)

Posted by: ALH at September 06, 2016 10:36 AM (uLuPn)
==============================================

That partial sentence is from the Book of Habakkuk, which continues on to say "so that your brother falls into drunkenness and gets all naked." The last couple of words are modern vernacular.

The point being - don't keep giving people too much to drink so they start doing stupid stuff.

It's good to remember to read passages in context and not pluck out particular words to support a viewpoint. The sin is not drinking. The sin is drunkenness.

Posted by: grammie winger lives in two houses at September 06, 2016 11:03 AM (DLIpz)

238 Is there evidence of any Christian sect before the 19th century forbidding the use of alcohol?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 06, 2016 11:03 AM (tIja6)

239 Posted by: grammie winger lives in two houses at September 06, 2016 10:54 AM (DLIpz)
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grammie, our priest always talks about how Jesus's first public miracle being at the wedding at Cana highlights the importance of marriage. I think it's a good point.

Posted by: bluebell at September 06, 2016 11:04 AM (xpSCc)

240 Looks like ITT is shutting down all of its schools because of the DoE banning it from enrolling new students who use federal funds. Aside from that, I don't really have on opinion on ITT tech, so I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on this matter.

Posted by: Independent George (or the commenter formally known as Serenity Now!) at September 06, 2016 11:04 AM (BDZWU)

241 #232 :

Huh.

That's what I love about the HQ, learn something new every day.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 06, 2016 11:04 AM (Z8DIA)

242
The notion that a Jewish wedding would serve nonalcoholic wine is silly.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo

The Bible according to people knocking on your front-door on Saturday morning, until you turn the sprinklers on to chase them off....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 06, 2016 11:05 AM (kdS6q)

243 The Encratites banned alcohol. Tatiana who compiled the Diatesseron was one of them. Of course the book censors out the wine references

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 06, 2016 11:05 AM (fSiAi)

244 That partial sentence is from the Book of Habakkuk, which continues on to say "so that your brother falls into drunkenness and gets all naked." The last couple of words are modern vernacular.

Tequila!

Posted by: rickb223 at September 06, 2016 11:05 AM (Gzt/W)

245 Wait, are they playing Twister?

Posted by: chemjeff at September 06, 2016 11:06 AM (gXKl3)

246 Grammie winger reminds me of my mom laying down the law sometimes

Don't make her turn this car around

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 06, 2016 11:07 AM (fSiAi)

247 The guy above Jesus on the balcony is performing a bris. It's his first one. He used to be a butcher.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at September 06, 2016 11:07 AM (nkCeM)

248 That was Tatianos, not Tatiana

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 06, 2016 11:07 AM (fSiAi)

249 grammie, our priest always talks about how Jesus's
first public miracle being at the wedding at Cana highlights the
importance of marriage. I think it's a good point.

Posted by: bluebell at September 06, 2016 11:04 AM (xpSCc)
==============================================

I agree with your priest. Marriage is a symbol of covenant love.

Posted by: grammie winger lives in two houses at September 06, 2016 11:07 AM (DLIpz)

250 Could some kind soul please rewind the "thickened water" meme, ad give me the Cliff Notes version?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 06, 2016 11:08 AM (bWBdM)

251
I painted that.

Posted by: Brian Williams at September 06, 2016 11:09 AM (ODxAs)

252 You know you're a pretty big freakin deal when Jesus shows up at your daughter's wedding.

Posted by: Steve Buscemi leg in a wood chippa with a Patrick Duffy leg at September 06, 2016 11:09 AM (qUNWi)

253 I'm trying to figure out what's in the bride's (?,
woman at table bottom left) lap that the folks to her left are so
interested in.

Posted by: random lurker

The woman 2 to her left had cut the cheese and is trying to pass the blame.

Posted by: Bruce at September 06, 2016 11:10 AM (8ikIW)

254 247 The guy above Jesus on the balcony is performing a bris. It's his first one. He used to be a butcher.

That's not funny.

Posted by: John Bobbitt at September 06, 2016 11:10 AM (bWBdM)

255 251
I painted that.
Posted by: Brian Williams at September 06, 2016 11:09 AM (ODxAs)

Before or after you watched Lena Dunham tongue punch your daughter's fart box?

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at September 06, 2016 11:10 AM (RD7QR)

256 253 I'm trying to figure out what's in the bride's (?,
woman at table bottom left) lap that the folks to her left are so
interested in.

Posted by: random lurker

The woman 2 to her left had cut the cheese and is trying to pass the blame.
Posted by: Bruce

Notice the scowls? Wind changed direction.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 06, 2016 11:12 AM (Gzt/W)

257 Shit, I killed the thread.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at September 06, 2016 11:13 AM (RD7QR)

258 ITT Tech is being denied due process. 40,000 students displaced on a gov't whim.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 06, 2016 11:13 AM (l7WNH)

259 Looks like ITT is shutting down all of its schools because of the DoE banning it from enrolling new students who use federal funds. Aside from that, I don't really have on opinion on ITT tech, so I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on this matter.

I think ITT was kind of a student aid mill, just getting students in who could fog a mirror, then cashing the student aid checks. That being said, this country needs more Vo-Tech schools.

Posted by: John Bobbitt at September 06, 2016 11:13 AM (bWBdM)

260 Penis amputee sock off.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 06, 2016 11:13 AM (bWBdM)

261
Looks like ITT is shutting down all of its schools because of the DoE
banning it from enrolling new students who use federal funds. Aside from
that, I don't really have on opinion on ITT tech, so I was wondering if
anyone had any opinions on this matter. Posted by: Independent George (or the commenter formally known as Serenity Now!) at September 06, 2016 11:04 AM (BDZWU)
=====

IIT is a regular university known for engineering and architecture. ITT is a high school/trade school with sketchy connections. Dad graduated from IIT waaay back when engineers had to take at the least an extra year for a BScE.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 06, 2016 11:14 AM (MIKMs)

262 Nah. The thread got drunk and tipped over.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 06, 2016 11:14 AM (mgbwf)

263 Mmmm, tequila. You know what tequila brings, don't you? More tequila.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at September 06, 2016 11:14 AM (Iy6JT)

264 Clinton said she was told to "Not talk for a few days. Yeah, that's not going to happen....I just upped my antihistamines."

Alllllrighty then.

Posted by: Tami at September 06, 2016 11:15 AM (Enq6K)

265 Before or after you watched Lena Dunham tongue punch your daughter's fart box?

Come for the art, stay for the poetry.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 06, 2016 11:15 AM (Gzt/W)

266 FTSB - Why not impeach Hillary?
So what if Dems won't vote to convict - The Senate can still hold a trial.

A laudable idea except, yeah, The Republican Leadership Is.In.On.it.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at September 06, 2016 11:15 AM (evdj2)

267 I think ITT was kind of a student aid mill, just getting students in who could fog a mirror, then cashing the student aid checks.

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In other words, like most state schools.

Posted by: SH at September 06, 2016 11:15 AM (n+J4O)

268 Mmmm, tequila. You know what tequila brings, don't you?

Nudity.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 06, 2016 11:16 AM (Gzt/W)

269 264 Clinton said she was told to "Not talk for a few days. Yeah, that's not going to happen....I just upped my antihistamines."

Alllllrighty then.
Posted by: Tami at September 06, 2016 11:15 AM (Enq6K)

So the spin is now all her coughing fits are due to "allergies" which were never seen before in her 25+ years in the public eye.

Posted by: josephistan at September 06, 2016 11:17 AM (7HtZB)

270 Mmmm, tequila. You know what tequila brings, don't you?

Nudity.

------------

Best to have some women present.

Posted by: SH at September 06, 2016 11:17 AM (n+J4O)

271 All of us in Brattleboro hope Presdent Obama had a grate Laber Day Weekend . Please get back work to help us get me free stuff from the government and to hopefully arrest Bush for his lying to our black Presdent. we love you and will miss you.......

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at September 06, 2016 11:17 AM (NuElX)

272 So the spin is now all her coughing fits are due to "allergies" which were never seen before in her 25+ years in the public eye.

------------

And the remedy is to keep her out of the public's eye -which is really where she is best anyway (politically anyway).

Posted by: SH at September 06, 2016 11:18 AM (n+J4O)

273 I confess I might have had too much to drink at my own wedding reception. I have a vague recollection of falling down on the floor of the yacht and laughing too hard to get up. At first I blamed the waves. The water was choppy that day. Upon further reflection though, it might have been the mumbly-eth gin and tonic. On the other hand, I married a minister so that should off-set it.

Posted by: grammie winger lives in two houses at September 06, 2016 11:18 AM (DLIpz)

274 Bwahahahaha!!!!!

Gonzaga hired Click. I'd of loved to have sat on that interview board.
Thousands of qualified professors out there and this is what you come up with?
Way to go Zags.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 06, 2016 11:19 AM (r65B3)

275 ITT Tech is being denied due process. 40,000 students displaced on a gov't whim.

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No worries. It's nothing that a timely generous donation to the Clinton Crime Family Foundation can't fix.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 06, 2016 11:19 AM (qja87)

276
Spotting the best man at a nudist wedding is easy.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 06, 2016 11:19 AM (X35Yt)

277 I like the idea of vo/tech schools and think we need more of them but ITT and U. of Phoenix and the like can be kind of scammy, in that they aren't particularly rigorous and their average student is less likely to graduate.

That said, for a lot of people it's a leg up out of lower-class drudgery. The DoE getting involved might cause them to up their academic standards and choose their students better but some of that is just 4-year schools using the government to attack the competition.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at September 06, 2016 11:19 AM (RD7QR)

278 Because His mother told him to. She was the only human with the authority to do so.

Posted by: mrp at September 06, 2016 10:58 AM (JBggj)

Authority? I don't think so. He did it because He loves and honorsHis mother, not because she has any special spiritual authority over Him.

Luke 8:20-21.

Posted by: troyriser at September 06, 2016 11:21 AM (OGbEB)

279 "For profit" schools must be destroyed. Not enough lesbian puppetry psychology majors.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 06, 2016 11:21 AM (IqV8l)

280 Can't find the kitteh, the sniper, or the bride and groom. Unless that's them in the lower left hand corner.

Posted by: sinalco at September 06, 2016 11:21 AM (yODqO)

281 Speaking of. The Hajj starts this Friday. Make sure you get your trample & squash insurance

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 06, 2016 11:21 AM (fSiAi)

282 I confess I might have had too much to drink at my own wedding
reception. I have a vague recollection of falling down on the floor of
the yacht and laughing too hard to get up. At first I blamed the waves.
The water was choppy that day. Upon further reflection though, it might
have been the mumbly-eth gin and tonic. On the other hand, I married a
minister so that should off-set it.

Umm, grammie. I hate to break this to you. You had your reception at the VFW club in Stoughton

Posted by: Bruce at September 06, 2016 11:22 AM (8ikIW)

283 276
Spotting the best man at a nudist wedding is easy.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 06, 2016 11:19 AM (X35Yt)

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Bob Dole can suggest some interesting variations on the traditional garter catch.

Posted by: Bob Dole at September 06, 2016 11:22 AM (qja87)

284 On the other hand, I married a minister so that should off-set it.

Nice get out of jail free card!

I would have to marry a Catholic priest to cover my sins.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 06, 2016 11:22 AM (mgbwf)

285 Decadent capitalist art! I prefer the black and red cat.

Posted by: Greek communist at September 06, 2016 11:22 AM (mL2BD)

286 Thanks for chiming in on ITT. I am quite familiar with the school because half the ads on tv back in 90s were ITT commercials. I actually looked into it myself but decided against it. The tuition was actually quite high, almost 20k a year back in late 2005 when I visited one. But I was never sure it was a legitimate school or if it was a scam.

Posted by: Independent George (or the commenter formally known as Serenity Now!) at September 06, 2016 11:22 AM (BDZWU)

287 Hey band leader! Play something snappy! And you guys, here, take some lessons! *tosses wad of ducats to the band*

Posted by: Al Cervikstein at September 06, 2016 11:22 AM (JO9+V)

288 CBD, Thanks for going with the Veronese and I'm honored, sincerely, for the mention. This was included in the Great Courses "Museum Masterpieces: The Louvre". That led to finding out more about it. The Lecturer said some of the figures are near life size. Now I want to learn more about the artist.

Posted by: JTB at September 06, 2016 11:22 AM (V+03K)

289 Hack hack wheeze wheeze

Oh what a relief it is

Posted by: Alkaseltzer gets on the Hillary! train at September 06, 2016 11:23 AM (gyKtp)

290 Umm, grammie. I hate to break this to you. You had your reception at the VFW club in Stoughton

Posted by: Bruce at September 06, 2016 11:22 AM (8ikIW)
=============================================

Then what was all that wate........ oh no

Posted by: grammie winger lives in two houses at September 06, 2016 11:24 AM (DLIpz)

291 FTSB - Why not impeach Hillary?
So what if Dems won't vote to convict - The Senate can still hold a trial.

A laudable idea except, yeah, The Republican Leadership Is.In.On.it.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at September 06, 2016 11:15 AM (evdj2)

The National Review has lost its mind. The word "impeach" carries "government official" with it. The idea that the Congress was given power to just impeach anyone and declare him/her ineligible for office is laughable.

It's further laughable that I would give 10000000 to 1 odds that the National Review was one of the many cowardly publications that was fainting at the idea of forcing Barky to even prove that he was eligible for the Presidency.

The fact that the first part of the possible sanctions for conviction in an impeachment is "removal from office" pretty much lets the cat out of the bag that it's about sitting office holders.

And the National Review thinks that Trump is crazy ... LOL.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 06, 2016 11:24 AM (zc3Db)

292 >>I think ITT was kind of a student aid mill, just getting students in who
could fog a mirror, then cashing the student aid checks.

Unlike a lot of universities where students get aid and government loans (and coming so: loan forgiveness?) for 6 years of classes and graduating with a Women's/Gender/Ethnicities Studies degrees.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 06, 2016 11:24 AM (NOIQH)

293 Though I am indeed flattered you would name something after a great leader like myself, I want no parts of your foolish Hu-man currencies.

Posted by: Gul Dukat at September 06, 2016 11:24 AM (jnOxz)

294 281 Speaking of. The Hajj starts this Friday. Make sure you get your trample & squash insurance
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 06, 2016 11:21 AM (fSiAi)

They always lose 10 or 20 pilgrims during the stoning of Satan, right? You'd think they could put up some guard rails or something...

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at September 06, 2016 11:25 AM (RD7QR)

295 grammie winger #273: I confess I might have had too much to drink at my own wedding reception. I have a vague recollection of falling down on the floor of the yacht and laughing too hard to get up....

Pics...?

And with that, I'm off to do stuff as if it were daytime.

Anyway, the good wine has run out now. And we don't want to go scraping the bottom of the barrel here!

Posted by: mindful webworker - as if I had a life at September 06, 2016 11:25 AM (w46Mb)

296 I told the nightcrawlers last night but for the benefit of you Skywalker I'll repeat it. There is a great documentary on CNN. No, really. It is Holy Hell. It is the story of a Speedo-wearing failed actor (whose greatest role was a Satan worshipper in Rosemary's Baby) former gay porn actor who convinced a few hundred of the beautiful people that he was an enlightened man/god by spouting a bunch of Eastern mumbo jumbo and manipulating them. His cult was called Buddha Fields and he took these people for everything they had for twenty plus years. He never went full Manson or Jonestown but, as his empires was falling apart, did try to recruit some assassins to straighten out the flock. Any disobedience was deemed being "in your mind" and was unacceptable. I guess he wanted people to be out of their minds. If you get the opportunity, don't miss this and don't stop watching when the credits begin to roll. Here's a preview:

http://tinyurl.com/jk7m9vv

This demonstrates how badly people long to be a part of something greater than themselves and the relationship between a narcissist and his enablers. (Any similarity between this and any U.S. president and his supporters is coincidental.)

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at September 06, 2016 11:25 AM (3tsUD)

297 Too much green.

Posted by: Steve Buscemi leg in a wood chippa with a Patrick Duffy leg at September 06, 2016 11:25 AM (qUNWi)

298 I did time at ITT. Graduated into the teeth of the slowdown of '08, which is a pattern for me, so I don't really know how much they helped or not. But I do smell an attempt to cut down on competition for traditional institutions.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, turkey ain't all that's stuffed at September 06, 2016 11:26 AM (V1M8q)

299 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at September 06, 2016 11:28 AM (uPt3V)

300 281 Speaking of. The Hajj starts this Friday. Make sure you get your trample & squash insurance

I LOLed.

Posted by: sinmi at September 06, 2016 11:28 AM (Qlgte)

301 >>Speaking of. The Hajj starts this Friday. Make sure you get your trample squash insurance

heh heh heh

Posted by: Lightening bolts & cranes at September 06, 2016 11:29 AM (NOIQH)

302 No idea where the sniper is in the pic

Posted by: Yo! at September 06, 2016 11:29 AM (uPt3V)

303 281 Speaking of. The Hajj starts this Friday. Make sure you get your trample squash insurance

For shits and giggles. Do a low flyover and parachute in a couple of those wild boars. Cue the cameras and Yakety Sax

Posted by: Bruce at September 06, 2016 11:30 AM (8ikIW)

304
Posted by: Gul Dukat at September 06, 2016 11:24 AM

Spoon Head!!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 06, 2016 11:30 AM (IqV8l)

305 Speaking of. The Hajj starts this Friday. Make sure you get your trample & squash insurance

Oh my god that is sooooo funny

Posted by: 520 people in Nice at September 06, 2016 11:30 AM (Iy6JT)

306 298 I did time at ITT. Graduated into the teeth of the slowdown of '08, which is a pattern for me, so I don't really know how much they helped or not. But I do smell an attempt to cut down on competition for traditional institutions.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, turkey ain't all that's stuffed at September 06, 2016 11:26 AM (V1M8q)

I did basically the same thing at basically the same time, so now I have a piece of paper that qualifies me to manage 2008-vintage networking technology after getting some other pieces of paper that I can't afford to get now that I need to keep my old job. Thanks, Obama!

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at September 06, 2016 11:30 AM (RD7QR)

307 Hey... Paolo"? they'be been married for a year now.... when can we MOVE again?????

Posted by: 3rd guy from the right, 4th row up at September 06, 2016 11:30 AM (qf6WZ)

308 Brother Cavil is closer to the truth than he knows. I was in higher ed for a long, long time. The standards for placement, repayment rates, etc., applied to private for profits, if applied to public institutions, would put an end to all post secondary ed. The goal is a ministry of education. Make no mistake.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at September 06, 2016 11:32 AM (0rmIs)

309 281 Speaking of. The Hajj starts this Friday. Make sure you get your trample & squash insurance

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You loved your squash. You named it "Brad."

Posted by: Crazy Asian chick from those commercials at September 06, 2016 11:32 AM (7HtZB)

310
Looks like ITT is shutting down all of its schools because of the DoE banning it from enrolling new students who use federal funds. Aside from that, I don't really have on opinion on ITT tech, so I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on this matter.

Posted by: Independent George (or the commenter formally known as Serenity Now!) at September 06, 2016 11:04 AM (BDZWU)

ITT has trained a LOT of telecom techs (we've hired some straight out of ITT graduation), as have most of our company's competitors.

Can't speak to their other majors, but they're a pretty good vo-tech school for electronics. And I can't remember any ITT techs that have had bad things to say about the school or their employment prospects. Anecdotes aren't data, of course, but food for thought.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 06, 2016 11:32 AM (xxSK3)

311 Speaking of weddings We were married by a one armed Justice of the Peace in Reno... Talk about poetic justice...

Posted by: donna at September 06, 2016 11:32 AM (O2RFr)

312 281 Speaking of. The Hajj starts this Friday. Make sure you get your trample & squash insurance
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Snatch a few pebbles for the journey

Posted by: Lena Dunham at September 06, 2016 11:32 AM (VndSC)

313 Nood

Posted by: Tami at September 06, 2016 11:32 AM (Enq6K)

314 Time to water the succulents. That's not a euphemism. Godspeed horde.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at September 06, 2016 11:33 AM (Iy6JT)

315 After the Rembrandt paintings last week and discovering this one, I got curious about how the master artists created their paints and other gear. I asked for references on Sunday's Book Thread and Callen (MANY thanks) was kind enough to give me several suggestions on books and articles. Fascinating stuff. My artistic ability is almost non-existent. But learning more about how these masterpieces were created lets me appreciate them more.

Posted by: JTB at September 06, 2016 11:33 AM (V+03K)

316 You loved your squash. You named it "Brad."

HAH!!

Posted by: Bruce at September 06, 2016 11:34 AM (8ikIW)

317 Cretan War (1645-1669) cost 60 ducats per man on campaign for a year, or 5 ducats per month.

Posted by: Min at September 06, 2016 11:35 AM (nIGPZ)

318 Vocational Schools don't indoctrinate like the Left wants.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 06, 2016 11:35 AM (iLoHX)

319 I have a good friend who has a degree from ITT from the early 90's. He's an Oracle DB guy, makes a good salary, and neversaid bad thingsabout ITT when I asked him about it. He was the first in his family to earn a college degree, and keeps the diploma proudly displayed in his home office.

As someone else has pointed out, he didn't earn a degree in Queer Theory or Blackness Studies, so why ITT should be singled out is beyond me.

Posted by: troyriser at September 06, 2016 11:36 AM (OGbEB)

320 Antihistamines make me sleepy. I can hold a box of Benadryl and get sleepy. They make me feel worse the next day. Maybe that is the reason for her long absences. Also, I think the reason she is wearing the tents is because she is wearing a Bullitt proof vest. It would be really hard to disguise under a fitted pantsuit.

Sorry for the OT. I really hate that blotch.

Posted by: Peggy at September 06, 2016 11:37 AM (HBU7W)

321 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 06, 2016 11:24 AM (zc3Db)

Actually... uh... no...

You impeach her for her actions as Secretary of State. You ARE Impeaching the Sec State for 'high crimes or misdemeanors' thus showing they are not above the law.

And one punishment specifically mentioned in the Constitution is that they can no longer hold office.

But I guess a Bank Robber who isn't robbing banks anymore should not got to trial.... because they aren't robbing banks TODAY?

Posted by: Don Q. at September 06, 2016 11:37 AM (qf6WZ)

322 The National Review has lost its mind. The word "impeach" carries "government official" with it. The idea that the Congress was given power to just impeach anyone and declare him/her ineligible for office is laughable.

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AM makes a good case that impeachment is not just for sitting office holders - particularly the historical precedence of an active British impeachment going on at the time of adoption of the Constitution.

Practically speaking it is not going to happen. But I am persuaded that it is certainly possible and maybe even necessary.

Posted by: SH at September 06, 2016 11:40 AM (n+J4O)

323 sinmi, we're practically neighbors...

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 06, 2016 11:41 AM (ZQfW9)

324 As someone else has pointed out, he didn't earn a degree in Queer Theory or Blackness Studies, so why ITT should be singled out is beyond me.

Posted by: troyriser at September 06, 2016 11:36 AM (OGbEB)

Its the same as what happened to the Microsoft MCSE program.

I was an Microsoft Certified Trainer (MCT) back in the late 90's and early 00's.... and we had a LOT of support from Microsoft... we were delivering over $1 Million a month in delivered training in the Denver Area.

Then... in 1999 and 2000 Congress increased the amount of H1Bs dramatically. ... and coincidentally courseware from Microsoft got much more expensive. driving up our costs.

We got bought out by a bunch of Lawyers... ended up closing our doors within 2 years...

Went to work for another training company... but costs kept rising and there was no Advertising support from Microsoft for the program...

Industry pretty much died by 2007...

So instead of creating our own MSCE's.... our own network engineers.... we were importing them...

Posted by: Don Q. at September 06, 2016 11:44 AM (qf6WZ)

325 The sniper is at the upper left, disguised as a dog.

Posted by: French Jeton at September 06, 2016 12:28 PM (WMvHw)

326 Seeing this picture brings to my mind Isaiah 53:3- "He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not."

Posted by: DaveKinNC at September 06, 2016 12:39 PM (/NgNT)

327 Rickb223 @ 38 Why DOES that back table look like The Last Supper??

I've always thought at this painting was a trial balloon for an even larger canvas of The Last Supper which is equally amazing. His depiction so incensed the Church that he was called before the Inquisition.

Funny that, somethings never change, eh?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Feast_in_the_House_of_Levi

Posted by: Shanks for the memory at September 06, 2016 01:11 PM (9HNfr)

328 My favorite part is the corinthian column in a family's small town back yard. Man, upper middle class people sure lived it up back then.

Would you like to read the most touching version of this story in print? It will sound to believers as science fiction. It is not canon. It is the moment that Jesus realizes he must control his thoughts completely. Or else his creator prerogatives will fly out of control. Scroll down to 4. The Wedding at Cana. I guarantee you, there is nothing else like it.

http://tinyurl.com/j9pxmn9

*rereads* Ahhhhh.

Posted by: bour3 at September 06, 2016 02:03 PM (cyVTQ)

329 And to think those puny 16'x20' Rubens wore me out...

Posted by: setnaffa at September 06, 2016 03:12 PM (jl6Ly)

330 Hey morons! I stood in front of this painting for 20 minutes yesterday as miss fancy pants PhD explained all the minutia. It really was stunning. In fact the lovely Mona Lisa looks upon it 24/7 across the room.

Posted by: johnnyNorCal at September 06, 2016 04:53 PM (NF8yF)

331 Magnificent painting -- one can see some serious detail when enlarged.

"He didn't paint that."

16 For a wedding that took place in Israel in the first millennium AD that looks suspiciously like Renaissance Italy...but yes, it's a feast for the eyes.

Indeed, looks like there's a arched-top guitar (being bowed no less a la Jimmy Page), an upright bass, and a violin....and the bassist and violinist are reading music? And the band is center stage? At most weddings that I've attended, the band plays back near the rest rooms.

Posted by: Allears at September 06, 2016 05:22 PM (VeRPR)

332 But almost nobody looks at it because of what is hanging on the wall opposite.

Posted by: Dale B. Light at September 06, 2016 07:42 PM (WdajP)

333 Incredible painting

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