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Overnight Open Thread (7-20-2016)

ALL OTHER ONTS ARE LIES - ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTES!

Quote of the Day I - DoD Instruction 1300.28 Edition

Ah, I remember my own days in the military fondly, but one of the biggest adjustments we had to make was learning that there was a set of instructions for doing everything from operating heavy machinery to washing your socks. Hey. that's just military life for you. There's always a manual to be referred to and if you get confused, there's a manual listing all of the manuals. Take for example the rules about getting a sex change operation. You'll want to make sure that you've checked in with the correct sources and.

Wait a minute. What was that again? A sex change manual for the military?

Bio-Quote of the Day II

For 2016, the Navy has purchased just under 80 million gallons of the 10/90 biofuel blend, about 6 percent of the 1.3 billion gallons of fuel the Navy uses annually. The Navy paid $2.05 per gallon, which is roughly in line with the cost of regular marine diesel thanks to robust biofuel subsidies from the US government, though that hasn't satisfied the program's detractors.

"There's more important shit to spend money on in the military, period," says US Representative Duncan Hunter, a Marine Corps veteran and Republican congressman from San Diego, principal homeport of the Navy's Pacific Fleet.

He describes the decision-makers behind the Great Green Fleet as "all the smartest guys that went to the John F. Kennedy School of Smart People," and calls their interest in biofuels "just stupid."

Flag-Burning Protester in Cleveland Accidentally Sets Self On Fire

Which reminds me of this classic Reno 911! scene.

I'm Reasonably Sure That Flinging Your Pee At Someone Is Not The Same As Presenting A Persuasive Argument

peedebate1

Shocker: German Axe Attacker/Refugee Turns Out to Have Lied About His Age, Country of Origin

Clinton VP Contender Won't Be Punished, Said He Didn't 'Intend' To Break Federal Law

This whole no-intent loophole thing seems useful. I must look into it.

47 Years Ago a Young Woman Was Left to Drown by the Lion of the Senate

Democrats and the media lionized Kennedy even though they knew what he had done. They did so because his politics were good, and that washes away all sins on the left - because on the left, the only sin is for one's politics to be incorrect.

Don't worry - He Says He's Really Sorry Now

What's the deal with sports writers and unhinged hatred.

shoalstweethate

Umm No

Two thoughts: 1) when Nigeria no longer takes $339 million dollars in aid every year from the just the US alone, they can have a space program and 2) the Financial Times apparently does not have a drug testing policy.

How bad off is Nigeria? This bad.

ftnigeria1

What's the Creepiest/Craziest Thing You've Heard Over the Radio?

The receiving Radio Tokyo decades after the war story is a good one.

In the Midst of a Heat Wave Britain Debates Whether It's Okay to Sunbathe in Your Underwear

Sometimes the only difference between a bra and a bikini top is the label. And price.

britainsunbra1

Studies Find That Acupuncture No More Effective at Pain Relief Than Placebos

But it's also cheaper than many placebos and gets good patient satisfaction ratings.

Why They Never Evolved Part IX: Booze-Loving African Chimps Make Special Tools So They Can Get Drunk

6 Things That Are Not Going Smoothly

notsmooth1

The Group knows your sins but doesn't care.

Tonight's post brought to you by tricky idols:

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Notice: Posted by implicit permission of AceCorp LLC. Now looking for volunteers to run the AoSHQ Urban Achievers back-to-school carwash.

Posted by: Maetenloch at 11:32 PM




Comments

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1 Yeah!

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at July 20, 2016 11:33 PM (VSenK)

2 Howdy from Texas, y'all!

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT Hobbit at July 20, 2016 11:34 PM (nvMvs)

3 Accept no substitutes!

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 20, 2016 11:35 PM (gyKtp)

4 [no primary stuff]

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2016 11:36 PM (1KDwo)

5 From Chappaquiddick to emailgate, the Democrats keep choosing the most interesting people to represent the USA as a world leader.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 20, 2016 11:37 PM (ry4ab)

6 In. Out.


Night.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 20, 2016 11:37 PM (9c2P3)

7 Welcome ONT!

Posted by: Splunge at July 20, 2016 11:37 PM (iMxBJ)

8 Howdy, y'all!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at July 20, 2016 11:38 PM (EzgxV)

9 [no primary stuff]

Posted by: rgallegos at July 20, 2016 11:39 PM (59GQk)

10 [no primary stuff]

Posted by: Navin R Johnson at July 20, 2016 11:39 PM (g25eo)

11 I did not intend to kill all those hos.

Posted by: Green River Killer at July 20, 2016 11:39 PM (iMxBJ)

12 [no primary stuff]

Posted by: Yip at July 20, 2016 11:39 PM (e7T6D)

13
I hated every minute I was in the army.


Every . . . minute.


And I volunteered.
They didn't draft me for Vietnam.
I volunteered.

Posted by: Listless in Lexington at July 20, 2016 11:39 PM (CDpC4)

14 How does an experimenter administer placebo acupuncture?

Posted by: FireHorse at July 20, 2016 11:40 PM (Z/1fa)

15 Thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 20, 2016 11:40 PM (3ZoRf)

16 You have to love Indiana Jones...when he screws up he was outsmarted by people 5-5500 years ago...

Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:41 PM (SzZnW)

17
I can almost imagine the Democrat convention and their response to the GOP show of shows.

Posted by: Listless in Lexington at July 20, 2016 11:41 PM (CDpC4)

18 I wonder if that "I didn't intend" defense will work with the IRS...

...yeah right.

"The Law" is for peons like us.

Posted by: Obakeinu at July 20, 2016 11:41 PM (ry4ab)

19 >>>ALL OTHER ONTS ARE LIES - ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTES!<<<



Begun, the CloneNT wars have.

Posted by: Yoda at July 20, 2016 11:41 PM (H9MG5)

20 14 Posted by: FireHorse at July 20, 2016 11:40 PM (Z/1fa)

"other placebos" of course I have practiced the fine art of dental acupuncture.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:42 PM (SzZnW)

21
Divided we sleep.

Posted by: iforgot at July 20, 2016 11:42 PM (5o5ek)

22 The Financial Times apparently does not have a drug testing policy.

Maetenloch ONTs are normally all about the subtle wit, like a Drudge juxtaposition, but this had me laughing full out.

Posted by: Splunge at July 20, 2016 11:42 PM (iMxBJ)

23 All right let's bring the firefight in here!

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 20, 2016 11:42 PM (R5HRU)

24 [no primary stuff]

Posted by: boomstick at July 20, 2016 11:42 PM (5uKWa)

25 [no primary stuff]

Posted by: William Eaton at July 20, 2016 11:42 PM (KhJh8)

26 Arrrrrgggghhhh, nuke the political shit Maet, I beg of you!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 20, 2016 11:42 PM (z1LsB)

27 47 Years Ago a Woman Was Left to Drown by the Lion of the Senate

and hid out for 9 HOURS like a cowardly little pussy, while he and his disgusting pals figured out the best way to save his political career. Turns out they didn't have to worry about saving his political career because the liberal douchebags in Massachusetts really didn't care about his letting the girl drown because he was a Kennedy, AKA American Royalty.
Camelot blah, blah, blah. Another Kennedy tragedy blah, blah, blah.
Oh it's just so sad that all these terrible things keep happening to the Kennedy's blah, blah, blah.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 20, 2016 11:43 PM (+lVUW)

28 [no primary stuff]

Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:43 PM (SzZnW)

29 "Nigerian Space Program"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Posted by: exdem13 at July 20, 2016 11:43 PM (ry4ab)

30 This is the creepiest/craziest thing I've heard from the "what's the creepiest/craziest thing you've heard" reddit:

"I like to go to furry conventions. I swear I'm not a total weirdo I just like to wear a tail and get stupid drunk sometimes."

Posted by: josephistan at July 20, 2016 11:43 PM (7qAYi)

31 Hey all.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 20, 2016 11:43 PM (w+Jhj)

32 [no primary stuff]

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 20, 2016 11:43 PM (6gk0M)

33 47 Years Ago a Woman Was Left to Drown by the Lion of the Senate
At least the Clintons didn't kill anyone.
Oh, wait. Never mind.

Posted by: Vince Foster at July 20, 2016 11:44 PM (+lVUW)

34 23 Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 20, 2016 11:42 PM (R5HRU)

Hear hear....

every thread should be a circular firing squad thread.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:44 PM (SzZnW)

35 God bless WestminsterDogShow. She has taken over the planning for the next Colorado Morondezvous since I am physically and socially exhausted from working six days a week in a cranky customer service/receptionist job.

Watch for details at the Yahoo group. This will likely be scheduled for this weekend or next so we can give Alex a proper send-off to his next adventure.

Thanks!

And, howdy, beloved Horde!

Posted by: Emmie at July 20, 2016 11:44 PM (xVuS6)

36 Hillary is the disease. And I'm the cure.

Posted by: Cobra at July 20, 2016 11:44 PM (Od14x)

37

Damn house won't cool off, and it's full of flying ants.

So either I have a nest of carpenter ants in the house, or they are going to start one.


I just hope I'm dead before the house falls to ruin.

Posted by: Roasting in Roanoke at July 20, 2016 11:44 PM (CDpC4)

38 Ted's a good man, and nobody could expect anything more.

Kasich is a sissyboy. Grow some balls, Mr. Kasich.

Posted by: Fritz at July 20, 2016 11:44 PM (vXmOS)

39 449 Ever watch a Man for All Seasons?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 20, 2016 11:29 PM (3ZoRf)

++++

Nope. Just skimmed a description, but that doesn't help me with your point. Who is Henry the VIII and who is the Pope in your metaphor?

**willowed from the fugazi ONT**

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 20, 2016 11:44 PM (R+30W)

40 How does an experimenter administer placebo acupuncture?

Posted by: FireHorse at July 20, 2016 11:40 PM (Z/1fa)


The needles have tiny suction cups on the ends.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2016 11:45 PM (zc3Db)

41 27 and hid out for 9 HOURS like a cowardly little pussy, while he and his disgusting pals figured out the best way to save his political career. Turns out they didn't have to worry about saving his political career because the liberal douchebags in Massachusetts really didn't care about his letting the girl drown because he was a Kennedy, AKA American Royalty.
Camelot blah, blah, blah. Another Kennedy tragedy blah, blah, blah.
Oh it's just so sad that all these terrible things keep happening to the Kennedy's blah, blah, blah.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 20, 2016 11:43 PM (+lVUW)


Wasn't there some columnist who argued that if Mary Jo Kopechne could have just looked at the "Lion of the Senate's" career, she would have said "it was totally worth drowning and being abandoned to die in that lake."

Posted by: Splunge at July 20, 2016 11:45 PM (iMxBJ)

42 All right let's bring the firefight in here!
---
I suspect we'll be seeing a lot of this:

[]

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 20, 2016 11:45 PM (3Liv/)

43 30 "I like to go to furry conventions. I swear I'm not a total weirdo I just like to wear a tail and get stupid drunk sometimes."
Posted by: josephistan at July 20, 2016 11:43 PM (

Cue Anna and her link to the my little pony rainbow tail butt plug!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 20, 2016 11:45 PM (z1LsB)

44 5 Posted by: exdem13 at July 20, 2016 11:37 PM (ry4ab)

It's like a game of Jenga for the "average democrat voter" hi high will their bullshit go...?

They spike the football with their media dominance my whole life.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:45 PM (SzZnW)

45 oops. Sorry for the faux pas

Posted by: Navin R Johnson at July 20, 2016 11:45 PM (g25eo)

46 [no primary stuff]

Posted by: Pizza Historian at July 20, 2016 11:46 PM (SEFXb)

47 [no primary stuff]

Posted by: t-bird at July 20, 2016 11:46 PM (jO7js)

48 Hillary 2016: Because a little bit of rape is good for you, peasant.

Posted by: Splunge at July 20, 2016 11:46 PM (iMxBJ)

49 [no primary stuff]

Posted by: boomstick at July 20, 2016 11:46 PM (5uKWa)

50 Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 20, 2016 11:45 PM (3Liv/)

Probably

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 20, 2016 11:46 PM (R5HRU)

51 Sorry... ONT. Didn't see a thread for politics.

Posted by: Yip at July 20, 2016 11:46 PM (e7T6D)

52 41 Posted by: Splunge at July 20, 2016 11:45 PM (iMxBJ)

Yes, "Mary Jo would be proud at how hard Tedster fought for the wimminz"

which is funny Ted let her drown b/c he had knocked her up and she wanted to keep the baby.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:46 PM (SzZnW)

53 30 This is the creepiest/craziest thing I've heard from the "what's the creepiest/craziest thing you've heard" reddit:

"I like to go to furry conventions. I swear I'm not a total weirdo I just like to wear a tail and get stupid drunk sometimes."
Posted by: josephistan at July 20, 2016 11:43 PM (7qAYi)


Democratic Convention Delegate.

Posted by: Splunge at July 20, 2016 11:47 PM (iMxBJ)

54 The way things are going, the Nigerians will make it the Moon before we make it back.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 20, 2016 11:47 PM (DW+jj)

55 [no primary stuff]

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 20, 2016 11:47 PM (Od14x)

56 [no primary stuff]

Posted by: exdem13 at July 20, 2016 11:47 PM (ry4ab)

57 I feel bad for the people that will have to clean out the pee hoarder/throwers houses in the future.

Posted by: Willy J. at July 20, 2016 11:47 PM (mRvs9)

58 45 Posted by: Navin R Johnson at July 20, 2016 11:45 PM (g25eo)

Nah it's all good, I am not here as much as I once was and was politely read the riot act for trying to bridge the gap so to speak.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:48 PM (SzZnW)

59 and hid out for 9 HOURS like a cowardly little pussy, while he and his disgusting pals figured out the best way to save his political career.


If you were ever tempted to give him the benefit of the doubt (hey, I grew up in Massachusetts) the book "Senatorial Privilege" will put you off that.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2016 11:48 PM (1xUj/)

60 52 which is funny Ted let her drown b/c he had knocked her up and she wanted to keep the baby.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:46 PM (SzZnW)


Not fair. Ted would have let her drown even without that, to save his political career.

Posted by: Splunge at July 20, 2016 11:48 PM (iMxBJ)

61 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at July 20, 2016 11:48 PM (OgkIz)

62 CIA ProTip: You can make someone feel like they are being burned if you show them a red-hot poker and push an ice-cold poker against their back.

No harm, no foul.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 20, 2016 11:48 PM (6gk0M)

63 Greetings, I am a Nigerian astronaut.

I have just learned of a huge pile of gold that I have inherited on the moon, but will need your help to get there. If you just share with me your bank account number I can borrow enough money to get to the moon, and get my inherited pile of gold, that I will gladly share with you when I get back to Earth...

Posted by: Nigerian prince astronaut at July 20, 2016 11:48 PM (H9MG5)

64 [no primary stuff]

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 20, 2016 11:49 PM (z1LsB)

65 Now that the Conventions are upon us, cop killings are hereby "Local News Stories" until after the election. Hillary 2016!

Posted by: Corrupt Media at July 20, 2016 11:49 PM (Jh20h)

66 Hillary Clinton. Democrat. Presidential Nominee. Pee Hoarder.

"It's just because Huma won't empty my chamberpot."

Posted by: Splunge at July 20, 2016 11:49 PM (iMxBJ)

67 [no primary stuff]

Posted by: tbodie at July 20, 2016 11:49 PM (GHHRC)

68 60 Posted by: Splunge at July 20, 2016 11:48 PM (iMxBJ)

The bad news is Tedster is in Arlington next to his brother... the good news is they tapped his liver and he will feed the eternal flame for the next 5 billion years.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:49 PM (SzZnW)

69 There is only one ONT and Maetenloch is its profit!!!

Posted by: andycanuck at July 20, 2016 11:49 PM (RmrGn)

70 47 Years Ago a Woman Was Left to Drown by the Lion of the Senate

Left to drown and she did. Ambassador left to get killed and he did.

Maybe these count as successes in DemocratWorld.

Posted by: t-bird at July 20, 2016 11:49 PM (oFSUK)

71 -Posted by: Pizza Historian at July 20, 2016 11:46 PM (SEFXb)

Seriously?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 20, 2016 11:49 PM (6gk0M)

72 [no primary stuff]

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2016 11:50 PM (VY8H5)

73 Not fair. Ted would have let her drown even without that, to save his political career.

Posted by: Splunge at July 20, 2016 11:48 PM (iMxBJ)


He would have let her drown just for kicks. Wasn't he also walking around in his underwear while one of his low-life cousins raped a girl? Or do I have the wrong scumbag Kennedy? (It's easy to get scumbags mixed up in the Kennedy clan)

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2016 11:50 PM (zc3Db)

74 [no primary stuff]

Posted by: Country Singer at July 20, 2016 11:50 PM (GUBah)

75 Studies Find That Acupuncture No More Effective at Pain Relief Than Placebos

But it's also cheaper than many placebos and gets good patient satisfaction ratings.

++++

Given the choice between taking a sugar pill and having needles shoved into me, I'll take the useless pill.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 20, 2016 11:50 PM (R+30W)

76 I predicted here that Pee and Poop would fly. Then the bullets.

So we still have time.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 20, 2016 11:50 PM (Od14x)

77 [no primary stuff]

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at July 20, 2016 11:50 PM (5xDis)

78 54 The way things are going, the Nigerians will make it the Moon before we make it back.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 20, 2016 11:47 PM (DW+jj)

So all those email scams were to fund their space program. Who knew?

Posted by: josephistan at July 20, 2016 11:50 PM (7qAYi)

79 68 The bad news is Tedster is in Arlington next to his brother... the good news is they tapped his liver and he will feed the eternal flame for the next 5 billion years.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:49 PM (SzZnW)


"If you think I was fat, you should see my fatty liver."

Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at July 20, 2016 11:51 PM (iMxBJ)

80 Acupuncture, one of the original snake oils. Comparable to witch doctors, but with less chanting. Thanks, China!

And now that I've pissed off at least a few of the Horde, let me toss this spoon and break out the shovel -- Gluten sensitivity in non-celiacs is bunk. So sez one of the original study scientists that found the sensitivity in the first place, after a much more extensive study with double blinds:

http://tinyurl.com/ogyjy9b

(ScienceAlert.com)

*Hey now, put down those flamethrowers.. I'm just the messenger*

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 20, 2016 11:51 PM (gyKtp)

81 Maet to the rescue! I love that dude.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 20, 2016 11:51 PM (6gk0M)

82 Wearin' a bra as a top? That's totally inappropriate. It's lewd, lascivious, salacious, outrageous!

Posted by: zombie jackie chiles at July 20, 2016 11:51 PM (RmrGn)

83 "'You're on fire. You're on fire, stupid," an officer shouted as he wielded a can of extinguishing spray."

LMFAO.

The police deserve a little comic relief these days!

Posted by: PJ at July 20, 2016 11:51 PM (cHuNI)

84 For anyone trapped behind enemy lines in a Northern state, I have a 2 BR 2BA emergency relocation home available to you in a nice neighborhood in Madisonville, KY. Link in nic. 95K rock bottom.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at July 20, 2016 11:51 PM (SSiqh)

85 [no primary stuff]

The primary's over. This is all secondary stuff, now.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2016 11:51 PM (zc3Db)

86 So the Government is saving money buy using bio-fuel subsidies that are subsidised by Taxes...that we wouldn't have to pay if to subsidize if they just used regular diesel....what what?

Posted by: Rob in Katy at July 20, 2016 11:51 PM (aGtNl)

87 The brackets are being enforced?

Posted by: L, Elle at July 20, 2016 11:52 PM (6IPEM)

88 You assholes keep this up, I'm never posting my tits again.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy
--------------------
Now see what you've gone and done!
This is why we can't have Nice Things. And pudding cups.

Posted by: Chi at July 20, 2016 11:52 PM (dzPJC)

89 Posted by: zombie jackie chiles at July 20, 2016 11:51 PM (RmrGn)

He's dead?

Posted by: josephistan at July 20, 2016 11:52 PM (7qAYi)

90 73 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2016 11:50 PM (zc3Db)

Rape is kinda the Kennedy Klan Bar Mitzva....

Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:52 PM (SzZnW)

91 68 60 the good news is they tapped his liver and he will feed the eternal flame for the next 5 billion years.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:49 PM (SzZnW)

Only 5 billion?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 20, 2016 11:52 PM (z1LsB)

92 This is why we can't have Nice Things. And pudding cups.

Posted by: Chi at July 20, 2016 11:52 PM (dzPJC)

How big are the cups?

Posted by: Melania at July 20, 2016 11:53 PM (8iiMU)

93 Wasn't he also walking around in his underwear while one of his low-life cousins raped a girl?


The one who raped a girl was a nephew, Dr. William Kennedy Smith.

There was another nephew who murdered Martha Moxley with a golf club.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2016 11:53 PM (1xUj/)

94 [no RNC stuff]

Posted by: lousagirl at July 20, 2016 11:53 PM (9plvG)

95 Rape is kinda the Kennedy Klan Bar Mitzva....

Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:52 PM (SzZnW)


Except, instead of pens they get seats in Congress for it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2016 11:53 PM (zc3Db)

96 And yeah, I think there may be someone in the Horde who needs to get into a quiet red state town on an Interstate fairly quick. Just a matter of finding them.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at July 20, 2016 11:53 PM (SSiqh)

97 68 60 Posted by: Splunge at July 20, 2016 11:48 PM (iMxBJ)

The bad news is Tedster is in Arlington next to his brother... the good news is they tapped his liver and he will feed the eternal flame for the next 5 billion years.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:49 PM (SzZnW

Sir, May I quote you on this piece of comedy/historic gold?

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 20, 2016 11:53 PM (Od14x)

98 off, damned sock...

Posted by: Ian Galt at July 20, 2016 11:53 PM (8iiMU)

99 Posted by: GnuBreed at July 20, 2016 11:51 PM (gyKtp)

An outbreak of common sense.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 20, 2016 11:54 PM (SRKgf)

100 80 Acupuncture, one of the original snake oils. Comparable to witch doctors, but with less chanting. Thanks, China!

And now that I've pissed off at least a few of the Horde, let me toss this spoon and break out the shovel -- Gluten sensitivity in non-celiacs is bunk. So sez one of the original study scientists that found the sensitivity in the first place, after a much more extensive study with double blinds:

http://tinyurl.com/ogyjy9b

(ScienceAlert.com)

*Hey now, put down those flamethrowers.. I'm just the messenger*
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 20, 2016 11:51 PM (gyKtp)

And wearing shirts made from GMO cotton will not give you cancer, as one of my more... interesting co-workers asserts.

Posted by: josephistan at July 20, 2016 11:54 PM (7qAYi)

101 97 Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 20, 2016 11:53 PM (Od14x)

All my idiocy is in the public domain....

Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:54 PM (SzZnW)

102 85 [no primary stuff]
The primary's over. This is all secondary stuff, now.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2016 11:51 PM (zc3Db)


Was it over when the Germans bombed Cleveland?

Fuck no.

Posted by: Maetenloch at July 20, 2016 11:54 PM (pAlYe)

103 There was another nephew who murdered Martha Moxley with a golf club.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2016 11:53 PM (1xUj/)


That wasn't murder because he did yell "Fore!" ... so no intent.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2016 11:55 PM (zc3Db)

104 OK, clicking through the "6 things that are not going smoothly" link hurt my brain. Off to try another link...

Posted by: Splunge at July 20, 2016 11:55 PM (iMxBJ)

105 "'You're on fire. You're on fire, stupid," an officer shouted as he wielded a can of extinguishing spray.

Estoy en fuego!

Posted by: t-bird at July 20, 2016 11:55 PM (oFSUK)

106 [stuff]

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 20, 2016 11:55 PM (IqV8l)

107 "The good news is they tapped his liver and he will feed the eternal flame for the next 5 billion years."
-Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:49 PM (SzZnW)

"Only 5 billion?"
-Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 20, 2016 11:52 PM (z1LsB)

It is a rough estimate. 4.98732345 billion would take much longer to type.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 20, 2016 11:55 PM (6gk0M)

108 30
This is the creepiest/craziest thing I've heard from the "what's the creepiest/craziest thing you've heard" reddit:



"I like to go to furry conventions. I swear I'm not a total weirdo I just like to wear a tail and get stupid drunk sometimes."
-----------
Furries, the guys that Trekkies, anime otaku, fanfic writers, LARPers and goths all agree are uncool, weird, and creepy.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 20, 2016 11:55 PM (ry4ab)

109 >>>> Was it over when the Germans bombed Cleveland?
Fuck no.
Posted by: Maetenloch at July 20, 2016 11:54 PM (pAlYe)
-----
LOL!!

Posted by: L, Elle at July 20, 2016 11:55 PM (6IPEM)

110 Oooh, brackets.

Can I get in on this. I love brackets.



... I'm taking Sycacuse.

Posted by: SCOAMF at July 20, 2016 11:55 PM (H9MG5)

111
#84


ONT has real estate listings?

For real?

Posted by: Yo! at July 20, 2016 11:56 PM (OgkIz)

112 Was it over when the Germans bombed Cleveland?

Fuck no.
Posted by: Maetenloch
---------------
Threadwinner!

Posted by: Chi at July 20, 2016 11:56 PM (dzPJC)

113 Wow. Some mighty strong ganja being passed around at the Financial Times.

Posted by: Jackal at July 20, 2016 11:56 PM (NiR1r)

114
**sees bunch of trash**
.
.
.
[ ]

Posted by: Wall-E at July 20, 2016 11:57 PM (H9MG5)

115 92 This is why we can't have Nice Things. And pudding cups.
Posted by: Chi at July 20, 2016 11:52 PM (dzPJC)How big are the cups?

D

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 20, 2016 11:57 PM (z1LsB)

116 [Incoming!!!]

Posted by: andycanuck at July 20, 2016 11:57 PM (RmrGn)

117 Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 20, 2016 11:57 PM (z1LsB)

We're gonna need some proof.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 20, 2016 11:57 PM (R5HRU)

118 I made the mistake of trying placebos once. Addicted. Instantly. The withdrawals were excruciating. But I'm fine now. Blurry vision sometimes. Flashbacks. Nothing serious.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 20, 2016 11:58 PM (4ng05)

119 WTF

Posted by: lousagirl at July 20, 2016 11:58 PM (9plvG)

120 >>>> Was it over when the Germans bombed Cleveland?
Fuck no.
Posted by: Maetenloch at July 20, 2016 11:54 PM (pAlYe)

The Japanese did bomb the continental U.S. in WWII, but not as far as Cleveland.

http://tinyurl.com/jq7lpkt

Posted by: josephistan at July 20, 2016 11:58 PM (7qAYi)

121 "Was it over when the Germans bombed Cleveland?
-Fuck no.
"
-Posted by: Maetenloch at July 20, 2016 11:54 PM (pAlYe)

They didn't have to bomb Cleveland. We took it in the ass from our own City Council.

Granted, we were able to extinguish a river.

We have no excuse for the Browns.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 20, 2016 11:58 PM (6gk0M)

122 Wasn't there some columnist who argued that if Mary Jo Kopechne could have just looked at the "Lion of the Senate's" career, she would have said "it was totally worth drowning and being abandoned to die in that lake."
Posted by: Splunge at July 20, 2016 11:45 PM (iMxBJ)


Yeah, I believe the commentary was something about how she would have thought it was worth while because of all the good he did. And by good he did, we mean pushing for the killing of fetuses.

Also, IIRC, one of the times Sirhan Sirhan was up for parole, he used the argument that Robert Kennedy would have wanted him to be paroled or something. The parole board didn't go for it. By the way, is he dead yet?

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 20, 2016 11:59 PM (+lVUW)

123 Michael Skakel.

He's the Kennedy who murdered Martha Moxley.

I hate having to look things up. It means my brain is going bad.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2016 11:59 PM (1xUj/)

124 93 Wasn't he also walking around in his underwear while one of his low-life cousins raped a girl?
The one who raped a girl was a nephew, Dr. William Kennedy Smith.
There was another nephew who murdered Martha Moxley with a golf club.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2016 11:53 PM (1xUj/)

Yeah, he's right, teddy was stumbling around in his bvd's while the nephew was raping the gal

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 20, 2016 11:59 PM (z1LsB)

125 Let's see, saw something about this, and I just checked the Daily Treasury Statement, something I used to do all the time, but just got sick of it all. We're going in a toilet, and nobody gives a rip.

Anyway, Total Public Debt Outstanding just hit $19.4T. It started the fiscal year at $18.1T, so it's up $1.3T in about 10 months. Now, they did a little trick. When the suspended the debt ceiling (again, and this avoids having to vote on an actual number), Treasury didn't unwind all the accounting tricks at once. They stretched the unwinding out over a few months. So some of that $1.3T was actually accumulated during the previous fiscal year.

Anyway, when Barky leaves office, he's gonna be close to $20T. We might have a pool on what the final number will be.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 20, 2016 11:59 PM (DW+jj)

126 Yeah! Politics free ONT... can we talk about criminals Clinton and Castro?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 20, 2016 11:59 PM (P/kVC)

127 Was it over when the Germans bombed Cleveland?



Fuck no.

Posted by: Maetenloch///

It would be if they did it now.

Posted by: Willy J. at July 20, 2016 11:59 PM (mRvs9)

128 [ no HR Puff n Stuff ]

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 20, 2016 11:59 PM (MNgU2)

129 [no RNC stuff]

Posted by: Jon Baptise Emmanual Zorg at July 21, 2016 12:00 AM (CDpC4)

130 It's not an AoSHQ ONT Brand ONT without Yoko Ono.

Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2016 12:00 AM (5kP64)

131
Can I get in on this. I love brackets.
... I'm taking Sycacuse.
Posted by: SCOAMF


I'm taking Dallas.

Posted by: Debbie at July 21, 2016 12:00 AM (IqV8l)

132 118 Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 20, 2016 11:58 PM (4ng05)

Spoeaking of placebic addictions, I caught myself tweeting in wordpad this evening....

It was pretty embrassing when my inner monologue Chris Matthews made more sense and sounded more sober than @HardballedChris

Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:00 AM (SzZnW)

133 Studies Find That Acupuncture No More Effective at Pain Relief Than Placebos

In all fairness, placebos are fairly effective in many cases.

But it's also cheaper than many placebos and gets good patient satisfaction ratings.

Now this is the really weird part. I guess they have to charge a lot for placebos so that patients don't know that they're placebos ... I think the placebo business might be the place to go.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 12:00 AM (zc3Db)

134

speech - speach

cheech -- peach

Posted by: Bombing in Baltimore at July 21, 2016 12:01 AM (CDpC4)

135 107 It is a rough estimate. 4.98732345 billion would take much longer to type.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1),

I would have expected it to be much longer.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:01 AM (z1LsB)

136 "You're on fire. You're on fire, stupid," an officer shouted as he wielded a can of extinguishing spray.
...

Oh my face hurts from laughing at that.
Love Reno 911 too. it's time to find some old episodes and re-watch.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (ozZau)

137 Was it over when the fat lady sang?
...............
Apparently not

Posted by: Yo! at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (i3CoX)

138 I think a law in Britain is probably needed to address sunbathing in underwear during a heatwave.

If the girls are hot, they should not be wearing their underwear. It is a heatwave, after all.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (4ng05)

139 Yes, "Mary Jo would be proud at how hard Tedster fought for the wimminz"

which is funny Ted let her drown b/c he had knocked her up and she wanted to keep the baby.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:46 PM (SzZnW)


Huh. Well, I wonder what was the motive for Marlyn Monroe? Pregnant by one Kennedy saint or the other? Writing a tell all? Knew about JFK's connections to the mafia?

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (+lVUW)

140 Was it over when the Germans bombed Cleveland?





Fuck no.


Posted by: Maetenloch///

It would be if they did it now.
---
The Germans and what army?

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (3Liv/)

141 ALL LIES!

Posted by: J. R. "Bob" Dobbs at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (EZebt)

142 Evening everyone.

Finished with the last major project at work. I've got nothing on the plate for the last week and a half. Time to shred a shit-ton of papers!

Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (fC9RO)

143 Well fuck me running

Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (9plvG)

144 Acupuncture is pretty fun. If you pay extra they put little drops on ink on the needles.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (P/kVC)

145 "It would be if they did it now."
-Posted by: Willy J. at July 20, 2016 11:59 PM (mRvs9)

Show me the German and I'll show you resistance.

...as long as I don't wind-up in a camp under Democratic rule.

...as a German American.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (6gk0M)

146 The Germans and what army?///

Airforce?

Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 12:03 AM (mRvs9)

147 can we talk about criminals Clinton and Castro?

Which reminds me...why in the hell would you start a life of crime when you can have a life in government?

Posted by: t-bird at July 21, 2016 12:03 AM (9mTYi)

148 Any discussion of furries isn't complete without this.

http://brunching.com/geekhierarchy.html

Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 21, 2016 12:03 AM (fC9RO)

149 I followed the Brit girls in underwear story because of boobies, but what I read was "the sun came out in England and everyone lost their shit".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 12:03 AM (1xUj/)

150 Time to shred a shit-ton of papers!

Posted by: Colorado Alex


So what's it like working for Hillary?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 12:04 AM (VY8H5)

151 > [no primary stuff]

[and no whining]

Posted by: Pizza Historian at July 21, 2016 12:04 AM (SEFXb)

152 84
For anyone trapped behind enemy lines in a Northern state, I have a 2 BR
2BA emergency relocation home available to you in a nice neighborhood
in Madisonville, KY. Link in nic. 95K rock bottom.


Posted by: CK at July 20, 2016 11:51 PM (SSiqh)


Nice little place. If it's got central cooling, what's the thing sticking out of the window above the screened porch?

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:04 AM (EzgxV)

153 [no RNC stuff]

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 12:04 AM (zc3Db)

154 Which reminds me...why in the hell would you start a life of crime when you can have a life in government?

A misplaced sense of decency?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 21, 2016 12:04 AM (fC9RO)

155 117 We're gonna need some proof.
Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 20, 2016 11:57 PM (R5HRU)

Nope, not until things mellow out. Chi will just have to vouch for it.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:04 AM (z1LsB)

156 145 Acupuncture is pretty fun. If you pay extra they put little drops on ink on the needles.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (P/kVC)


There was an article in the Daily Mail a while back about some Brit guy who got himself tattooed with Chinese characters, and couldn't understand it when Chinese girls giggled when they saw his tattoo. Turned out it said "at the end of the day, this is an ugly boy."

Posted by: Splunge at July 21, 2016 12:05 AM (iMxBJ)

157 139 Posted by: nerdygirl at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (+lVUW)

No, no, and yes....

where she screwed up was getting a little too clingy and pissing Jackie O off....

She knew the goods on Mooney Giancana and Joe Kennedy's antics with the Outfit.

I have no trouble believing they killed her with a downer enema.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:05 AM (SzZnW)

158 I really liked Mike Pences speech, is that allowed

Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:05 AM (9plvG)

159 [no butt stuff - anymore]

Posted by: Megyn at July 21, 2016 12:05 AM (5xDis)

160 "I would have expected it to be much longer."
-Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:01 AM (z1LsB)

Listen, lady... these are the figures. This is what I have to work with and that's the long and the short of it.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:05 AM (6gk0M)

161 If they are gonna sunbathe in their knickers and bras, I suggest they wear peekaboos.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 21, 2016 12:06 AM (gyKtp)

162 I'm out, 0600 comes early. Y'all take care.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 21, 2016 12:06 AM (GUBah)

163 Which reminds me...why in the hell would you start a life of crime when you can have a life in government?


Low IQ? Otherwise, a distinction without a difference.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 21, 2016 12:06 AM (SRKgf)

164 Which reminds me...why in the hell would you start a life of crime when you can have a life in government?

Posted by: t-bird at July 21, 2016 12:03 AM (9mTYi)

Historical a government position is considered a gateway to the fringe benefits of graft and influence peddling.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 21, 2016 12:06 AM (P/kVC)

165 Yer gonna half to trust me, it only sounds better than it looks:

Cops: Naked Missouri Couple Rode Stolen Lawn Mower In Broad Daylight

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 12:06 AM (VY8H5)

166 It was pretty embrassing when my inner monologue Chris Matthews made more sense and sounded more sober than @HardballedChris
Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:00 AM (SzZnW)

Since my tragic experience with addiction, I find I rarely have to worry about making sense. Glass half full, I guess.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 21, 2016 12:06 AM (4ng05)

167 Evening, fappers. The sidebar story about the global warming expedition stuck in the ice has given me one of the largest schadenboners I've ever had.


Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2016 12:06 AM (0mRoj)

168 The games Treasury plays are just remarkable. I was looking at the debt transactions. There are two kinds of debt, marketable, and unmarketable (which roughly translates as Debt Held by the Public, vs the Intragovernmental Debt).

DHP is the "real money" borrowed from the public (mostly, there's some complications), the real Ts out there that represent real money borrowed by Uncle. The Intragov, the unmarketable, is the "IOUs" given to SS and Medicare and the pension funds for federal workers still in that system. It's fake crap, and the source of the accounting tricks they use to skirt the debt limit for a while.

At any, Uncle has a shit pile of debt out there that has to redeemed. He pays it off by borrowing new money. New Ts are issued to replace the maturing Ts, and finance any new deficit. This is known as rolling debt.

All told, Uncle has rolled just under $7T of debt this fiscal year. Now, the total, counting the unmarketable is a mind-boggling $73T. This is mostly just accounting, "rolling" the IOUs, which because of how they structure it, have to rolled a lot.

You can see why I'm so sure we're just flat-out fucked. When you look at all this debt, you realize there's no way out.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (DW+jj)

169 159 Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:05 AM (9plvG)

I have a house back in Indiana....that's how smart I am...well no not really.... maybe I can bounce the house to Ohio?

Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (SzZnW)

170 There was an article in the Daily Mail a while back
about some Brit guy who got himself tattooed with Chinese characters,
and couldn't understand it when Chinese girls giggled when they saw his
tattoo. Turned out it said "at the end of the day, this is an ugly boy."

Posted by: Splunge at July 21, 2016 12:05 AM (iMxBJ)

My favorite was the tramp stamp that said: "Insert here."

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (SRKgf)

171 Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:04 AM (z1LsB)

*sighs* alright.....

I'm out folks, night night.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (R5HRU)

172 115
92 This is why we can't have Nice Things. And pudding cups.

Posted by: Chi at July 20, 2016 11:52 PM (dzPJC)How big are the cups?



D

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 20, 2016 11:57 PM (z1LsB)


I wouldn't have guessed....

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (EzgxV)

173 "Oh my face hurts from laughing at that"

Me too. And then the cops arrested them all and took them in. Too stupid to be out at night, lol.

Posted by: PJ at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (cHuNI)

174 Studies Find That Acupuncture No More Effective at Pain Relief Than Placebos

What is the placebo for hey-put-needles-in-my-face? I get it when they're studying pills- give the guy a sugar pill or the real one. But I'm not sure how you double-blind an acupuncture study.

Posted by: t-bird at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (OLNwX)

175 Thanks, Maetenloch, for getting us out of that last thread

All Hail the ONT.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (sdi6R)

176 [no butt stuff - anymore]

Posted by: Megyn at July 21, 2016 12:05 AM (5xDis)///
Your a little young to be thinking of retirement aren't you?

Posted by: Roger Ailes at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (mRvs9)

177 Perhaps one of the 4th cousin Kennedy hangers-on can make an environmentally conscious shrine to John Lennon and sell it to the 60 Minutes skeleton crew for some blow.

All while at a live performance of Hamilton!

Boomer Time!

Posted by: Randy Bromide at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (yx30y)

178 [no RNC stuff]

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 12:04 AM (zc3Db)


There was no RNC stuff in there. It was an answer to publius' pool about what the debt will be when Barky is supposed to leave in January.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (zc3Db)

179 Time to shred a shit-ton of papers!

Posted by: Colorado Alex

Is that better than sleep?

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (4ng05)

180 There was an article in the Daily Mail a while back
about some Brit guy who got himself tattooed with Chinese characters,
and couldn't understand it when Chinese girls giggled when they saw his
tattoo. Turned out it said "at the end of the day, this is an ugly boy."

Posted by: Splunge at July 21, 2016 12:05 AM (iMxBJ)

There is a blog that specializes in this topic



http://hanzismatter.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (P/kVC)

181
WE don't have to worry about that national debt.
We owe ourselves all that money so when it comes time to pay we can just forgive ourselves of the debt and nothing will be lost because we have already received the money borrowed and spent it all ready.

It's not like we owe it to someone else who will try and collected it; like a credit card company.

It's all just book keeping entries in the budget.

Posted by: Book keeping in Baton Rouge at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (CDpC4)

182 In the Midst of a Heat Wave Britain Debates Whether It's Okay to Sunbathe in Your Underwear


That British heatwave must have skipped Scotland. Watching the British Open in Scotland this past weekend, it looked rather blustery and cold.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (2EbTQ)

183 152 Posted by: Pizza Historian at July 21, 2016 12:04 AM (SEFXb)

You missed one

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (z1LsB)

184 [{( braces and brackets and stuff)}]

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (Od14x)

185 If you were ever tempted to give him the benefit of the doubt (hey, I grew up in Massachusetts) the book "Senatorial Privilege" will put you off that.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2016 11:48 PM (1xUj/)


Can't be any worse than "The Dark Side of Camelot".
The entire family was completely disgusting, starting with old Joe. The man was an absolute pig. His sons were just like him. Seriously, those people had no conscience. And the women in their lives were pathetic doormats who put up with horrible treatment.

They painted Rose as being such a saint. She stayed with her husband who had an operation done on her daughter Rosemary that made her mentally retarded. Everyone cheers for that family because they pushed the Special Olympics for developmentally disabled people. Well, Rosemary wasn't born that way, Joe Kennedy did it to her.
I don't know why Rose didn't suffocate him in his sleep.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 21, 2016 12:09 AM (+lVUW)

186 The Germans and what army?///

Airforce?
---
Well yes, but I had a feeling there was a punchline there, but couldn't find it myself. I was hoping someone more drunk than me would manage.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 21, 2016 12:09 AM (3Liv/)

187 182 Posted by: Book keeping in Baton Rouge at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (CDpC4)

Look Vox just showed up to explain that perpetual motion economics really can work...

Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:09 AM (SzZnW)

188 171 My favorite was the tramp stamp that said: "Insert here."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (SRKgf)


Oh that is awesome. But I think there are chicks out there who might want that. To be avoided in this new, post-antibiotic world, of course.

Posted by: Splunge at July 21, 2016 12:10 AM (iMxBJ)

189 Shit I finally found how to do this and it is too late.

¡

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 21, 2016 12:10 AM (Od14x)

190 Also on July 20th, 1969... "The Eagle has landed."

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a11/AS11-40-5863-69.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 12:10 AM (GYSvp)

191 All Hail the ONT.


You spelled Eris wrong.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 12:10 AM (1xUj/)

192 I'm under the impression that 90% of furries are gay men who are deep in the closet. Er, about being gay, whether they are open about being a furry or not.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 21, 2016 12:11 AM (VdICR)

193 WE don't have to worry about that national debt.

We owe ourselves all that money so when it comes time to pay we can
just forgive ourselves of the debt and nothing will be lost because we
have already received the money borrowed and spent it all ready.



It's not like we owe it to someone else who will try and collected it; like a credit card company.



It's all just book keeping entries in the budget.

Posted by: Book keeping in Baton Rouge at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (CDpC4)

You left out issuing $1 trillion coins. Or keeping tulip bulbs in the Treasury. Or Beanie Babies.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 21, 2016 12:11 AM (SRKgf)

194 "Bookkeeping" is one word. It is the only word in the English language with three double-letters next to one-another.

...except bookkeeper.

I denounce myself.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:11 AM (6gk0M)

195 [no RNC stuff]

Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 21, 2016 12:11 AM (KRwzj)

196 Wednesday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/755836330282737665

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/755836545760956416

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/755836896148946944

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/755837064449581056

Posted by: kbdabear at July 21, 2016 12:11 AM (BpqaV)

197 177 [no butt stuff - anymore]
Posted by: Megyn at July 21, 2016 12:05 AM (5xDis)

Your a little young to be thinking of retirement aren't you?
Posted by: Roger Ailes at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (mRvs9)

Okay, okay I'll do butt stuff.

But I want another $10 million book deal first!

Posted by: Megyn at July 21, 2016 12:11 AM (5xDis)

198 181 There is a blog that specializes in this topic
http://hanzismatter.blogspot.com/
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (P/kVC)


Very nice. "Toilet demon?"

Posted by: Splunge at July 21, 2016 12:11 AM (iMxBJ)

199 186 Posted by: nerdygirl at July 21, 2016 12:09 AM (+lVUW)

You forgot the punchline.....


Joe turned Rosemary into Corky b/c she snuck out and got drunk and laid....a...lot

yes had she had a penis she'd have been his favorite son....

"feminism"

Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:11 AM (SzZnW)

200 th

So I read the post. Followed the links. Followed the links off the links. Followed suggested videos off videos on the links.

Or I would have been first. Or fiftieth. Or something besides this.

Howdy, folks.

Posted by: mindful webworker at long last at July 21, 2016 12:11 AM (5a8XA)

201 You're doing it wrong, Maet.

[omitted]

Posted by: the DOJ at July 21, 2016 12:11 AM (H9MG5)

202 170 Sven, I guess that you are smarter then me, I just liked his speech, so yay, you win at some weird aos bracket thing

Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:12 AM (9plvG)

203 [no primary stuff]. ( showing a desperate need to be in with the cool kids ).

Posted by: tubal at July 21, 2016 12:12 AM (d6TTt)

204 In the Midst of a Heat Wave Britain Debates Whether It's Okay to Sunbathe in Your Underwear




I don't see the problem. They already go naked. It's a standing joke.

Posted by: Kamping in Keokuck at July 21, 2016 12:12 AM (CDpC4)

205 More Wednesday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/755837218657300480

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/755837392368599040

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/755838865441591296

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/755838990876413952

Posted by: kbdabear at July 21, 2016 12:12 AM (BpqaV)

206 173 I wouldn't have guessed....
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (

Well yeah. Gotta wear the sports bra to DL. Don't want the girls giving me black eyes, bouncing around on the Matterhorn.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:12 AM (z1LsB)

207
"There's more important shit to spend money on in the military, period," says US Representative Duncan Hunter, a Marine Corps veteran and Republican congressman from San Diego, principal homeport of the Navy's Pacific Fleet.

He describes the decision-makers behind the Great Green Fleet as "all the smartest guys that went to the John F. Kennedy School of Smart People," and calls their interest in biofuels "just stupid."


I love this guy. No homo.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2016 12:13 AM (0mRoj)

208 >>>188 Look Vox just showed up to explain that perpetual motion economics really can work...

Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:09 AM (SzZnW)
<<<

Is it Moo Moo...?

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik is totally not Iceman at July 21, 2016 12:13 AM (jV8Mq)

209 "Polka Dots and Moonbeams"

Frank:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lJFRh4RmEw

Bob:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch2m5BbzRfY

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2016 12:13 AM (sdi6R)

210 Maet, Thanks for that Reno 911 clip.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 21, 2016 12:13 AM (+lVUW)

211 [no RNC stuff]

Posted by: donna at July 21, 2016 12:13 AM (O2RFr)

212 Moo Moo didn't he used to post here?

Posted by: tubal at July 21, 2016 12:14 AM (d6TTt)

213 "Sven, I guess that you are smarter then me, I just liked his speech, so yay, you win at some weird aos bracket thing."
-Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:12 AM (9plvG)

Sven is smarter than most of us. You just have to dig through the A.D.D.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:14 AM (6gk0M)

214 [no RNC stuff]

Probably a wise idea!

Posted by: donna at July 21, 2016 12:14 AM (O2RFr)

215 I do not always comment in ONT posts, but when I do, I prefer to comment in non-provisional authorized ONTs.

Posted by: The Most Interesting Moron In The World at July 21, 2016 12:14 AM (/wm8n)

216 So no primary stuff. What about secondary or tertiary? Is that still ok?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (0mRoj)

217 I'm still a sucker for Bobby and Jack.

They were really charismatic. They said some pretty things. They were really good looking.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (1xUj/)

218 Speaking of scantily clad British girls, there's a new girl on the scene in a certain, uh, movie industry. A friend of my told me. Pendulous mammaries that hang just right. Plus other features.

And she does the, uh, "Megan stuff". A friend told me, honest.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (DW+jj)

219 168
Evening, fappers. The sidebar story about the global warming expedition
stuck in the ice has given me one of the largest schadenboners I've ever
had.

-----------
Does a man's heart to see fools get their Aesop, it sure does.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (ry4ab)

220 https://youtu.be/GOUntnR9X2w

Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (fC9RO)

221 "All Or Nothing At All"

Frank:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7klm1GS3v8

Bob:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1apKNgLWV00

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (sdi6R)

222 203 Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:12 AM (9plvG)

No no just laughing at myself sorry Lou...

it's like this....I have a house 234 miles from where I want a house, I almost bought a house 1564 miles from where I want a house....

Thank God I am not a tycoon I'd probably buy a house on fucking Mars before I got the one I want back in Ohio.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (SzZnW)

223 WE don't have to worry about that national debt.

We owe ourselves all that money so when it comes time to pay we can just forgive ourselves of the debt and nothing will be lost because we have already received the money borrowed and spent it all ready.

Posted by: Book keeping in Baton Rouge at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (CDpC4)


You seem to be confused by the fact that "we" (and "ourselves") can represent different groups in the same sentence.

But the fact is that the US is going to have to default on that debt, eventually. There's no getting around that. And the games that the Fed is playing and the deficit spending that Washington is doing are making that default all the more assured and immediate. But when that happens, the "we" who bought the debt are going to be crushed.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (zc3Db)

224 16mm color frame of Armstrong and Aldrin setting up the flag on the Moon.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a11/ap11-S69-40308.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (GYSvp)

225 [no RNC stuff]

I think Megan already made this point.

Posted by: Roger Ailes at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (mRvs9)

226 >>>213 Moo Moo didn't he used to post here?

Posted by: tubal at July 21, 2016 12:14 AM (d6TTt)
<<<

He WAS un-banned, so ya never know...

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik is totally not Iceman at July 21, 2016 12:16 AM (jV8Mq)

227 "Well yeah. Gotta wear the sports bra to DL. Don't want the girls giving me black eyes, bouncing around on the Matterhorn."
-Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:12 AM (z1LsB)

If you said that again, but slower, I'd leave this site and find "something better to do", like...

...forever.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:16 AM (6gk0M)

228 Emmie! Thanks to you and Westminister for setting everything up. How are you doing, besides working like crazy?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 21, 2016 12:16 AM (fC9RO)

229 Since the Milo thread got hijacked by the convention, Brietbart has a list of places where you can follow Milo if you were primarily following him on Twitter.

I won't link to it so I don't wind up blowing the margins and getting my ass in the Barrel.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:16 AM (6IPEM)

230 227 >>>213 Moo Moo didn't he used to post here?

Posted by: tubal at July 21, 2016 12:14 AM (d6TTt)


He WAS un-banned, so ya never know...
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik is totally not Iceman at July 21, 2016 12:16 AM (jV8Mq)

He was? I hadn't noticed.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:17 AM (0mRoj)

231
You missed one
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (z1Ls

Snitch. No pizza for you, EVER! Never, anymore.

Posted by: Pizza Historian at July 21, 2016 12:17 AM (SEFXb)

232 Yeah, you guys are way to smart & cool for me, yes, I don't get the bracket thing, sorry, I work at 5:00 in the morning mon thru Friday and I'm just not as fucking cool as you guys, sheesh you make lgf look like nice guys

Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:17 AM (9plvG)

233 current politics + idiotic liberal co-workers= Shibumi slowly transforming into Jack Nicholson in "A Few Good Men."

Which is not a good transformation for a female...

Posted by: shibumi who lives in a nation without laws at July 21, 2016 12:17 AM (tvyXw)

234 ██`&#&&█#9608;#9608;9608;08;█

Posted by: █████ at July 21, 2016 12:17 AM (IqV8l)

235 Well yeah. Gotta wear the sports bra to DL. Don't want the girls giving me black eyes, bouncing around on the Matterhorn.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:12 AM (z1LsB)


This is why you should stick with the tea cups. Grim and I would be happy to join you.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (fC9RO)

236 218 They were really good looking.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (1xUj/m

Huh? In what fucking alternate universe?!!!! Definitely not the evil, bearded Star Trek one.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (z1LsB)

237 I'm not smart...I just type a lot.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (SzZnW)

238 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/755837218657300480

Yeah, there's no chance she expects anyone to be looking at her eyes.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (3Liv/)

239

I never liked that Moo Moo guy.
Didn't trust him.

Posted by: Mooning in Monroe at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (CDpC4)

240 Where can a fella get his hands on a Robert Redford directed enviro-thriller with Dustin Hoffman fighting the Catholic oil conglomerate looking to sell bottled water to refugees through middlemen arms dealers in order to war profiteer and corner the market on greed?

Andrea Mitchell's my pin-up gal.

See you in the great '68 in the sky.

Posted by: Randy Bromide at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (yx30y)

241 "So no primary stuff. What about secondary or tertiary? Is that still ok?"
-Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (0mRoj)

As long as it ain't Red, Blue or *spits* Yeller.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (6gk0M)

242 "It's a small world after all...."

*thud*

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (GYSvp)

243 But when that happens, the "we" who bought the debt are going to be crushed.


Well, a lot of the "we" who bought the debt are "them" what are foreigners, so when we can't pay it it will only crash the entire international financial system.

Does anyone have cookies?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (1xUj/)

244 169
The games Treasury plays are just remarkable. I was looking at the debt
transactions. There are two kinds of debt, marketable, and unmarketable
(which roughly translates as Debt Held by the Public, vs the
Intragovernmental Debt).

DHP is the "real money" borrowed from
the public (mostly, there's some complications), the real Ts out there
that represent real money borrowed by Uncle. The Intragov, the
unmarketable, is the "IOUs" given to SS and Medicare and the pension
funds for federal workers still in that system. It's fake crap, and the
source of the accounting tricks they use to skirt the debt limit for a
while.

At any, Uncle has a shit pile of debt out there that has
to redeemed. He pays it off by borrowing new money. New Ts are issued
to replace the maturing Ts, and finance any new deficit. This is known
as rolling debt.

All told, Uncle has rolled just under $7T of
debt this fiscal year. Now, the total, counting the unmarketable is a
mind-boggling $73T. This is mostly just accounting, "rolling" the IOUs,
which because of how they structure it, have to rolled a lot.

You can see why I'm so sure we're just flat-out fucked. When you look at all this debt, you realize there's no way out.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (DW+jj)


The way out is too easy. Repudiate the national debt. Flat-out declare any debt issued since the founding of the Federal Reserve to be illegal, and raise new cash by auctioning off 99% of Federal lands for non-Federal-Reserve-Notes (since Federal Reserve Notes are backed by the National Debt). When this is done, swap the new cash for old at whatever exchange rate people see fit.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (EzgxV)

245 WE don't have to worry about that national debt.
We owe ourselves all that money so when it comes time to pay we can just forgive ourselves of the debt and nothing will be lost because we have already received the money borrowed and spent it all ready.
It's not like we owe it to someone else who will try and collected it; like a credit card company.
It's all just book keeping entries in the budget.
Posted by: Book keeping in Baton Rouge at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM

Well OK. Live on in your fantasy world.

Posted by: Farmer at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (o/90i)

246 162
If they are gonna sunbathe in their knickers and bras, I suggest they wear peekaboos.
-------------------
Somewhere the ghost of Benny Hill is smiling at it all.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 21, 2016 12:19 AM (ry4ab)

247 93 Wasn't he also walking around in his underwear while one of his low-life cousins raped a girl?


The one who raped a girl was a nephew, Dr. William Kennedy Smith.

There was another nephew who murdered Martha Moxley with a golf club.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2016 11:53 PM (1xUj/)

Also, assorted Kennedys have died of drug overdose, one's wife or exwife hung herself, there are innumerable drunk driving incidents, one died because they were playing football on a f**king ski slope. The ex wife who hung herself was buried in a family plot, then dug up and reburied somewhere else.

When, oh when, will the terrible tragedies haunting these poor people ever end? Sob!

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 21, 2016 12:19 AM (+lVUW)

248 In his reply to OSC report, Castro admitted that he made a mistake but also said he did not intend to break the law.
-----------------

Well, okey-doke then.

Posted by: Barky at July 21, 2016 12:19 AM (J3phO)

249 Posted by: Book keeping in Baton Rouge at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM

You're one of my co-workers, aren't you?

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at July 21, 2016 12:19 AM (tvyXw)

250 Lousagirl,
It's just an ONT thing. Most are tired out it at this hour. And it's been going on for months.

Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 12:19 AM (dzPJC)

251 >>>224 But the fact is that the US is going to have to default on that debt, eventually. There's no getting around that.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (zc3Db) <<<

I was thinking "hyper-inflation", personally. But, you could be correct.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik is totally not Iceman at July 21, 2016 12:19 AM (jV8Mq)

252 244 Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (1xUj/)

LOUND EYE YOU NO GET CHEAP-A HAMMAH!

//China

Yeah now factor in the WMDs as people are enraged globally

Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:20 AM (SzZnW)

253 Sorry Sven, wish I would have seen your comment before I got pissy. God Bless!!

Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:20 AM (9plvG)

254 Weimar United States -> WUS

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 12:20 AM (GYSvp)

255 233 Yeah, you guys are way to smart & cool for me, yes, I don't get the bracket thing, sorry, I work at 5:00 in the morning mon thru Friday and I'm just not as fucking cool as you guys, sheesh you make lgf look like nice guys
Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:17 AM (9plvG)

Aww, they didn't mean anything by all that, just funnin' around.
We're mostly too old to be ironic hipster douchebags. All we can muster is some semi-funny snark most of the time.

Posted by: tubal at July 21, 2016 12:20 AM (d6TTt)

256
I should have thought this out and done it in alphabetical order.



Hmmmm.. there is a Zanesville
and a Xenia in Ohio



Posted by: Adjusting in Albany at July 21, 2016 12:20 AM (CDpC4)

257 I watched a couple episodes of the "Stranger Things" series. Not too bad so far. Decently acted and they seem to have a decent handle on how to do subtle horror (at least until they went for the wall thing.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:20 AM (3ZoRf)

258 When, oh when, will the terrible tragedies haunting these poor people ever end? Sob!

Posted by: nerdygirl
****

I would respond to that, but I don't want to get banned.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 21, 2016 12:21 AM (hVdx9)

259 150 I followed the Brit girls in underwear story because of boobies, but what I read was "the sun came out in England and everyone lost their shit".


HEH!! I was stationed in the UK (90-93) and lucked out with the summertime weather. It was always pretty warm and nice. And yes, they lose there shit when the weather is nice for more than 4 hours.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 21, 2016 12:21 AM (2EbTQ)

260 248 Posted by: nerdygirl at July 21, 2016 12:19 AM (+lVUW)

The Kennedy coat of arms is three weasels exiting a pub with snorkels on....

it represents the family character and proclivity for turning ANYTHING into a submarine.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:21 AM (SzZnW)

261 [no RNC stuff]

I agree completely. I spent the last two threads trying to change the subject.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2016 12:21 AM (sdi6R)

262 232 Snitch. No pizza for you, EVER! Never, anymore.
Posted by: Pizza Historian at July 21, 2016 12:17 AM (SEFXb

Empty carbs that fool your drunken ass into thinking it will help soak up the booze, but ends up making you hurl from the grease.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:22 AM (z1LsB)

263 Xenia, Ohio - the first ME-262 to fall into US hands, FE711, crashed near there. Then the place was almost wiped out during the Great Easter Tornado Outbreak.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 12:22 AM (GYSvp)

264 257 Posted by: Adjusting in Albany at July 21, 2016 12:20 AM (CDpC4)

Don't forget Youngstown....

Ohio may well be unique in having all the letters of the alphabet representing municipalities.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:22 AM (SzZnW)

265 If anyone was planning on visiting Old Blighty next week, the Old Royal Naval Museum is opening a skittle alley exhibit.

"The old infirmary was transformed into a skittle alley in 1864 and intended to relieve the boredom of the naval pensioners. Hidden underneath the grand buildings of the ORNC, you'll feel as if you're taking a step back in time...and, of course, you'll have the opportunity for a game using wooden practice cannonballs!"

details at www.ornc.org

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 12:22 AM (VY8H5)

266 264 Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 12:22 AM (GYSvp)

It's the county seat of my home county....

the local joke given its tornado magnet status is "X marks the spot."

Casa 10077 may well be there if I crawl home in 3-5 years.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:23 AM (SzZnW)

267 207
173 I wouldn't have guessed....

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (



Well yeah. Gotta wear the sports bra to DL. Don't want the girls giving me black eyes, bouncing around on the Matterhorn.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:12 AM (z1LsB)


I was thinking something about a "Gentleman's C".... https://www.urbandictionary.com /define.php?term=Gentleman%27s%20C

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:23 AM (EzgxV)

268 I'm not smart...I just type a lot.
Posted by: sven10077
------------

*fist bump*

I just sling random stuff up, hoping that something might gain some traction. Pretty much zero so far.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 12:23 AM (J3phO)

269 You can see why I'm so sure we're just flat-out fucked. When you look at all this debt, you realize there's no way out.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (DW+jj)
======

Inflation and currency devaluation. See: Weimar Republic, 1923.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 21, 2016 12:23 AM (EZebt)

270 I'm not smart...I just type a lot.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM

Join the crowd.

Better than most other blogs.

Posted by: Farmer at July 21, 2016 12:23 AM (o/90i)

271 Aww, they didn't mean anything by all that, just funnin' around.
We're mostly too old to be ironic hipster douchebags. All we can muster is some semi-funny snark most of the time.
Posted by: tubal at July 21, 2016 12:20 AM (d6TTt)

Hey screw you, pal, I'm not that old!

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:23 AM (0mRoj)

272 Screw Ted!!!

Kennedy, I mean... Kennedy...

Aaargh, I'm melting... melting...

Posted by: andycanuck at July 21, 2016 12:23 AM (RmrGn)

273 That's why I just read the comments now, y'all are just smarter then me, I can admit this!!

Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:23 AM (9plvG)

274
144 [no RNC stuff]
Posted by: Prescient99 at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (yx+Pc)


This is a previously banned person. Shouldn't they be rebanned

Posted by: Buzzion at July 21, 2016 12:23 AM (lDMnP)

275 Don't let Sven fool, you. He's smarter than you, but he doesn't type so well.

Okay... he's smarter than me, but he has his wild tangents.

Four web-pages and thirty Horde posts later, I can interpret him. It simply takes time and effort.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:23 AM (6gk0M)

276 The Kennedys were pretty much all scum. I will never understand the national love affair with that particular crime family.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:24 AM (0mRoj)

277 254 Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:20 AM (9plvG)

Love ya Lou....

I like Pence a lot...I liked him a lot more before he started taking Kasich pills.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:24 AM (SzZnW)

278 Well, a lot of the "we" who bought the debt are "them" what are foreigners, so when we can't pay it it will only crash the entire international financial system.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (1xUj/)


Yeah ... it's going to be ugly. We are going to be witnesses to an event that has never happened before - the implosion of a currency that serves as both the world reserve and trade currency and for which there are no possible replacements. Never before has this happened. Large currencies have imploded but that was always within the context of having other large currencies to use and take up the slack. With the dollar, there is nothing else that replace it. It will be a unique event - and it is impossible to overstate how dangerous and disastrous it will be.

But Barky and his Vichy GOP butt-boys just had to keep borrowing a trillion a year (and the Fed printing up as much) to spend on dogshit so that they could crow about economic growth of 200 billion ... What a total, complete, retarded fuck-up this has been.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 12:24 AM (zc3Db)

279 252 >>>224 But the fact is that the US is going to have to default on that debt, eventually. There's no getting around that.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (zc3Db) <<<
I was thinking "hyper-inflation", personally. But, you could be correct.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik is totally not Iceman at July 21, 2016 12:19 AM (jV8Mq)



Same thing.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 21, 2016 12:25 AM (SRKgf)

280 274 That's why I just read the comments now, y'all are just smarter then me, I can admit this!!
Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:23 AM (9plvG)

We're just a bunch of morons with expansive vocabularies and way too many in-jokes.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:25 AM (0mRoj)

281 [Oreo Double Stuf]

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 21, 2016 12:25 AM (OzvpI)

282 Don't put yourself down, lousagirl. You're every bit as stupid as the rest of us!

Posted by: andycanuck at July 21, 2016 12:25 AM (RmrGn)

283 And while I was at it, I thought I'd check Queen Janet's balance sheet, known as H.4.1 in Fed parlance.

Her balance sheet now stands at $4.43T, of which $2.46T (I love how three significant figures means rounding to the nearest $10B) are Uncle Debt, Ts. That is, $2.46T is monetized Uncle debt. I think the Fed is no by far the single largest holder of US debt.

There is now $1.42T of FRNs outstanding. At the moment, Uncle has about $300B in his "checking account" with Janet, and the banks have $2.7T in theirs.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:25 AM (DW+jj)

284 236 This is why you should stick with the tea cups. Grim and I would be happy to join you.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (fC9RO)

Oh hell to the no. You saw the pictures of Marine powered Teacup of Death and post traumatic teacup distress disorder on the book of face. It's cruel to even suggest!!!!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:25 AM (z1LsB)

285 *gets Captain Whitebread a tall glass of milk*

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 12:25 AM (GYSvp)

286 282 [Oreo Double Stuf]
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 21, 2016 12:25 AM (OzvpI)

That's what Megan McCain does.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:26 AM (0mRoj)

287 If anyone was planning on visiting Old Blighty next week, the Old Royal Naval Museum is opening a skittle alley exhibit.
-------------------

You can imagine my bitter disappointment when I visited Bedlam, and found it converted to a military museum. Stupid military.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 12:26 AM (J3phO)

288 Don't let Sven fool, you. He's smarter than you, but he doesn't type so well.
///

I thoght his problem was speech to text issues.

Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 12:26 AM (mRvs9)

289 We're just a bunch of morons with expansive vocabularies and way too many in-jokes.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:25 AM (0mRoj)

But mostly in jokes. Integrity!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:26 AM (3ZoRf)

290 ME-262

Was that the jet? Some famous German ace flew the first one in combat, right? I read his account somewhere in the dim past.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 21, 2016 12:26 AM (3myMJ)

291 "Don't put yourself down, lousagirl. You're every bit as stupid as the rest of us!"
-Posted by: andycanuck at July 21, 2016 12:25 AM (RmrGn)

*HAH!*

Indeed!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (6gk0M)

292 Well Sven, I don't know about the kasich thing, but I will on my eyes tell you I told my hubby that he was gonna be the vp quite a bit ago. Any motherfucker is better then hillaru

Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (9plvG)

293 233
Yeah, you guys are way to smart cool for me, yes, I don't get the
bracket thing, sorry, I work at 5:00 in the morning mon thru Friday and
I'm just not as fucking cool as you guys, sheesh you make lgf look like
nice guys

Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:17 AM (9plvG)


Awwwww....lousagirl, I'm frantically trying to chase up to the active part of the thread so I don't miss you. I'm glad you're here. (only about 40 behind now)

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (EzgxV)

294 219 Speaking of scantily clad British girls, there's a new girl on the scene in a certain, uh, movie industry. A friend of my told me. Pendulous mammaries that hang just right. Plus other features.

And she does the, uh, "Megan stuff". A friend told me, honest.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)



Name? For,,,uh,,,,a science project.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (2EbTQ)

295 drive by Happy Birthday to Gushka.....off to nyc in the morning.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl you must fight for independence EVERYDAY at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (0O7c5)

296 With the dollar, there is nothing else that replace it.

Posted by: yap island stone currency at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (RmrGn)

297 [no mindful webworker stuff]

Posted by: mindful webworker at long last at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (5a8XA)

298
But mostly in jokes. Integrity!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:26 AM (3ZoRf)

That's damn right.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (0mRoj)

299 Re: Biofuels. The Navy needs no biofuels. What they should do is make every vessel large enough to be called a "ship" nuclear powered. Because not having to fuel up at routine intervals gives a tactical advantage, of course.


Re: "Bethlehem Shoals". There's nothing wrong with his ass that an encounter with a 24" Husqvarna wouldn't fix.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (GSdpU)

300 She's a National Nightmare

Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (9plvG)

301 I can't stay up because I have to rise at the crack of dawn tomorrow to have knee surgery.

It's not major - no overnight stay - but I am a little nervous... a few prayers would be appreciated.

Good night horde.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersands and &&& so there) at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (P8951)

302 Don't put yourself down, lousagirl. You're every bit as stupid as the rest of us!
Posted by: andycanuck
-------------

Oh yeah?
Here, hold my beer...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (J3phO)

303 Also, assorted Kennedys have died of drug overdose, one's wife or exwife hung herself, there are innumerable drunk driving incidents, one died because they were playing football on a f**king ski slope. The ex wife who hung herself was buried in a family plot, then dug up and reburied somewhere else.

When, oh when, will the terrible tragedies haunting these poor people ever end? Sob!

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 21, 2016 12:19 AM (+lVUW)


Don't forget the loser idiot who couldn't pass the bar who killed himself, his wife and her friend because he was a shit-poor pilot who wasn't instrument rated flying in weather with a cast on his leg. And it only took about one week after his death for his piece of shit magazine to fold.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (zc3Db)

304 Our plan:

We monetize the national debt, and to offset inflation we import the entire population of Brazil in order to lower labor costs!

Posted by: The Donor Class at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (5xDis)

305 291 ME-262

Was that the jet? Some famous German ace flew the first one in combat, right? I read his account somewhere in the dim past.
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 21, 2016 12:26 AM (3myMJ)

ME-262 was one of the jets the Germans developed, the other one was... Anna, what was the other one? I am too drunk to remember right now. The Salamander?

There was also the rocket plane they developed the Comet(?). That must have been a ride.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:28 AM (3ZoRf)

306 Oh yeah?
Here, hold my beer...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (J3phO)

Oh shit.

*ducks and covers*

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:28 AM (0mRoj)

307 291 Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 21, 2016 12:26 AM (3myMJ)

Well "a" jet not "the jet" but yeah....

Wright-Patterson Air Force Base nee "Wright Field" was the seat of the USAAC Foreign Technology Division so every time we captured a piece of enemy aviation kit intact we'd send it to Fairborn Ohio and learn how to kill it....

The thing is all the knows were in German, Italian, or Japanese so they crashed some.

Out on Haddix road in Fairborn you can still find pieces of T-33 wreckage....

Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:28 AM (SzZnW)

308 "I thought his problem was speech to text issues."
-Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 12:26 AM (mRvs9)

No. The guy thinks that way. It is up to us to interpret his asinine genius.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:29 AM (6gk0M)

309 Fat, drunk, stupid, and posting at AoS is a life choice, I wear it as a badge of honor.

Posted by: tubal at July 21, 2016 12:29 AM (d6TTt)

310 I was thinking "hyper-inflation", personally. But, you could be correct.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik is totally not Iceman at July 21, 2016 12:19 AM (jV8Mq)


Yes. That is more likely and that is what I base my "implosion of the currency" on. A default would be the only way to save the currency, but that probably won't be allowed to happen, so they will print to the sky and take the whole monetary system down.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 12:29 AM (zc3Db)

311 Donna - You got 'em.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 12:29 AM (J3phO)

312 276 The Kennedys were pretty much all scum. I will never understand the national love affair with that particular crime family.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:24 AM (0mRoj)

According to PJ O'Rourke:

"It is always tempting to impute
unlikely virtues to the cute."

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersands and &&& so there) at July 21, 2016 12:29 AM (P8951)

313 (only about 40 behind now)
IQ points?

Welcome, brother!

Posted by: andycanuck at July 21, 2016 12:29 AM (RmrGn)

314 309 Fat, drunk, stupid, and posting at AoS is a life choice, I wear it as a badge of honor.
Posted by: tubal at July 21, 2016 12:29 AM (d6TTt)

You mean you weren't born that way?

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:29 AM (0mRoj)

315 Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersands and &&& so there) at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (P8951)

Prayers for your surgery, Donna.

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT Hobbit at July 21, 2016 12:30 AM (nvMvs)

316 305 Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:28 AM (3ZoRf)

Their rocket was the ME-163...

The Italians had a turbojet they were working on...

Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:30 AM (SzZnW)

317 Thanks, Mike!

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersands and &&& so there) at July 21, 2016 12:30 AM (P8951)

318 ME-262

Was that the jet? Some famous German ace flew the first one in combat, right? I read his account somewhere in the dim past.



I'm going to get in before Anna Puma knows way more than I do.

ME-262 was the first servicable combat jet. There's a sometime commenter around here who uses its nickname, die Schwalbe (the swallow).

Hitler had stupid ideas about how to use it (i.e. other than as a fighter).

Five of them made it to the U.S. after WWII and one of them was on display at the Willow Grove Naval Air Station in Pennsylvania.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 12:31 AM (1xUj/)

319 [no mindful webworker stuff]

Aww, man.

Posted by: tbodie at July 21, 2016 12:31 AM (GHHRC)

320 Linky no work Coothie

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:31 AM (z1LsB)

321 -Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersands and &&& so there) at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (P8951)

Might you find yourself hand-in-hand with God tonight. When tomorrow dawns, find yourself in His care.

Our collective love is with you, ma'am!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:31 AM (6gk0M)

322 301 I can't stay up because I have to rise at the crack of dawn tomorrow to have knee surgery.

It's not major - no overnight stay - but I am a little nervous... a few prayers would be appreciated.

Good night horde.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersands and &&& so there) at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (P8951)

Arthroscopic, I presume? Walk in the park. Had it done myself. You will be just fine.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:31 AM (0mRoj)

323 We monetize the national debt, and to offset inflation we import the entire population of Brazil in order to lower labor costs!
---
Hey that reminds me...

Two weeks til Rio!!!

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 21, 2016 12:31 AM (3Liv/)

324 301 I can't stay up because I have to rise at the crack of dawn tomorrow to have knee surgery.

It's not major - no overnight stay - but I am a little nervous... a few prayers would be appreciated.

Good night horde.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersands and &&& so there) at July 21, 2016 12:



Protip, Donna. Marketh the offending knee with a magic marker, saying like "it's THIS knee that hurts".
You're welcome.

Posted by: tubal at July 21, 2016 12:32 AM (d6TTt)

325 Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:28 AM (SzZnW)

Thanks. I meant the first jet to be flown in combat, is that right?

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 21, 2016 12:32 AM (3myMJ)

326 Ok, feeling the Love, you Rock ont! God Bless, gotta go to bed and work my factory job and pay my motherfucking taxes in the am

Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:32 AM (9plvG)

327
According to PJ O'Rourke:

"It is always tempting to impute
unlikely virtues to the cute."
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersands and &&& so there) at July 21, 2016 12:29 AM (P8951)

I suppose so. I don't do that, but I'm a cynical and untrusting son of a bitch.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:32 AM (0mRoj)

328 Adolf Galland - The First And The Last.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 12:32 AM (GYSvp)

329 G'Night Donna V of the Ampersands!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:33 AM (6gk0M)

330 by Slapweasel @ 321

^ what he said ^

Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 12:33 AM (dzPJC)

331 Hyperinflation or Deflationary Depression, the choice is theirs. Print, or just default outight. WIth the former, you have piles of worthless "money". With the latter, you have zero money. Same thing, you have nothing, it's just whether that 0 is piles of cash, or no pile.

Pooty-Poot and the Chicoms are making plans for the fall of the dollar as the world reserve currency. When the shit hits the fan, they'll pull the plug. That's when we go to shit. Fast.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:33 AM (DW+jj)

332 [no H.R. Pufnstuf]

Posted by: Sid and Maety Krofft at July 21, 2016 12:33 AM (H9MG5)

333 325 Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 21, 2016 12:32 AM (3myMJ)

First operationally deployed non prototype Jet Fighter....


Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:33 AM (SzZnW)

334 323 We monetize the national debt, and to offset inflation we import the entire population of Brazil in order to lower labor costs!
---
Hey that reminds me...

Two weeks til Rio!!!
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 21, 2016 12:31 AM (3Liv/)

Pumping raw shit into the waterways will be adopted as an official Olympic event.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:33 AM (0mRoj)

335 [stuff...and things]

Posted by: Rick Grimes at July 21, 2016 12:33 AM (4dbPD)

336 313
(only about 40 behind now)

IQ points?



Welcome, brother!

Posted by: andycanuck at July 21, 2016 12:29 AM (RmrGn)


It was 60 and I was slipping. Hopefully I've regained some.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:33 AM (EzgxV)

337 No. The guy thinks that way. It is up to us to interpret his asinine genius.///

Asinine or not his casa sounds like the place you want to be when the shit hits the fan ( assuming he labels you as friendly)

Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 12:33 AM (mRvs9)

338 Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:33 AM (SzZnW)

Thank you.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 21, 2016 12:34 AM (3myMJ)

339 Posted by: Sid and Maety Krofft at July 21, 2016 12:33 AM (H9MG5)

You guys are what happens when TV show producers take the brown acid.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:34 AM (0mRoj)

340 On this "intent" thing...

If I break my wife's favorite champagne glasses (and, trust me, I have a bug-out bag ready for the day this happens!) it's either because I mishandled them, or because I had intent to break them. It can't be both.

So how come Comey demands that Hillary have "criminal intent" along with "mishandling" in order for it to be a punishable offense?

Is there such a thing as malicious clumsiness?

Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 12:34 AM (aFQtB)

341 Yay! 23!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:34 AM (EzgxV)

342 > Empty carbs that fool your drunken ass into thinking it will help soak up the booze, but ends up making you hurl from the grease.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:22 AM (z1LsB)

Tell yourself that. You'll miss me, and cave for a $5 Domino's special within a week. Snarf it all by yourself, you would, BUT NO, I won't let you. You can't have any, ever. No Chicago Deep Dish, no NY coal-fired oven thin crust, no artisan custom. None. Not even a scrappy delivery. Y're dead to the Pizza world.

Posted by: Pizza Historian at July 21, 2016 12:34 AM (SEFXb)

343 G'Night, lousagirl!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:34 AM (6gk0M)

344 "When the suspended the debt ceiling (again, and this avoids having to
vote on an actual number), Treasury didn't unwind all the accounting
tricks at once. They stretched the unwinding out over a few months. So
some of that $1.3T was actually accumulated during the previous fiscal
year."

Here's what the establishment Republicans said about that: precisely nada.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 21, 2016 12:34 AM (noWW6)

345 Proof that AoSHQ is waaay out front on social issues. We started this conversation a year ago. Spoiler Alert - Time Waster:

//preview.tinyurl.com/hrqclzq

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 12:35 AM (J3phO)

346 Don't forget the loser idiot who couldn't pass the bar who killed himself, his wife and her friend because he was a shit-poor pilot who wasn't instrument rated flying in weather with a cast on his leg.

OK, sort of in his defense, he got nagged to death.

I knew people who knew people. I knew people who were waiting at the wedding where they didn't show up.

The sister was late. He wanted to leave because he was not in fact instrument rated and it was going to get dark. The girl made him wait for the sister and then it got dark and then he didn't know how to fly in the dark.

The girl literally nagged him to death.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 12:35 AM (1xUj/)

347 of course the ME-262/ME-163 thing is part of why Germany lost the war...

the second world war was a fight between nations who tweaked designs and produced EN MASS and nations who decided every other prototype was a national imperative to bring to production and wated a LOT of time retooling and using up finite strategic metals and minerals they were scarce of.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:35 AM (SzZnW)

348 [you guys are making up your own brackets]

Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:35 AM (6IPEM)

349 [no RNC stuff]

Posted by: Truth at July 21, 2016 12:35 AM (OTtI3)

350 320
Linky no work Coothie

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:31 AM (z1LsB)


Just check "Gentleman's C" -- Urban Dictionary has an example.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:35 AM (EzgxV)

351 348 [you guys are making up your own brackets]
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:35 AM (6IPEM)

[piffle]

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:36 AM (0mRoj)

352 218----I'm ashamed to say that I know who you are thinking of.
She goes by the name of "Emma Leigh" and she fits that description, She's pretty too. She works a lot with a guy who goes by the name of "Danny D."
You know what the "D: stands for, and it's not "Democrat."

Posted by: JoeF. at July 21, 2016 12:36 AM (8HGb7)

353 "[piffle]"
-Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:36 AM (0mRoj)

*HAH!*

I love that word.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:37 AM (6gk0M)

354 >> Name? For,,,uh,,,,a science project.

Stella Cox, my friend says.

Now, she's done some pretty rough stuff, you know, getting her start as a new "star". Just don't think about that, my friend says.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:37 AM (DW+jj)

355 257 I watched a couple episodes of the "Stranger Things" series. Not too bad so far. Decently acted and they seem to have a decent handle on how to do subtle horror (at least until they went for the wall thing.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:20 AM (3ZoRf)


Ooh, sounds good. I like horror. And not just looking at Hillary, I also like more subtle horror.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 21, 2016 12:37 AM (+lVUW)

356 white nipples

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 21, 2016 12:38 AM (GdFQh)

357
324
301 I can't stay up because I have to rise at the crack of dawn tomorrow to have knee surgery.



It's not major - no overnight stay - but I am a little nervous... a few prayers would be appreciated.



Good night horde.

Posted by: DonnaV (a white) (whitely
brandishing ampersands and so there) at July 21, 2016
12:







Protip, Donna. Marketh the offending knee with a magic marker, saying like "it's THIS knee that hurts".

You're welcome.

Posted by: tubal at July 21, 2016 12:32 AM (d6TTt)


Not a bad idea. Thoughts and prayers, Donna -- but mostly hoping your surgeon is a total pro....

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:38 AM (EzgxV)

358 (no moontanning in British underwear)

Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 12:38 AM (mRvs9)

359 Yes. That is more likely and that is what I base my "implosion of the
currency" on. A default would be the only way to save the currency, but
that probably won't be allowed to happen, so they will print to the sky
and take the whole monetary system down.
---
Before the market-ticker went dark, he used to write about how that's not possible in a debt based system. Or rather noted that those trying to do it kept failing and wondering why. The problem, as I understand it, is if you expand the money supply by issuing debt, the act of paying off the debt with interest takes out more currency than the original issuance put in. And the more debt you issue, the faster currency gets sucked out of the system.

Now, if you can push interest rates negative, that problem goes away, but then anyone with any sense pulls their money out of the banks and puts it in their mattress (or some other form they find suitable for hiding value from the system). Sure you can make paper money illegal, but at some point all the fucking around destroys everyone's confidence in your paper/electron currency and the whole thing collapses anyway.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 21, 2016 12:38 AM (3Liv/)

360 JFK Jr. may not have been that bright, but he was the only Kennedy I liked.
He was the only one who was really handsome too.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 21, 2016 12:38 AM (8HGb7)

361 356 white nipples
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 21, 2016 12:38 AM (GdFQh)

#AllNipplesMatter

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:38 AM (0mRoj)

362 358 (no moontanning in British underwear)
Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 12:38 AM (mRvs9)

You get a tan from standing in the English rain.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:39 AM (0mRoj)

363 "white nipples"
-Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 21, 2016 12:38 AM (GdFQh)

Very succinct and to the point.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:39 AM (6gk0M)

364 [no RNC stuff]

Posted by: the littl shyning man at July 21, 2016 12:39 AM (U6f54)

365 Live from the mall parking lot. It's me and a broken car!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 12:39 AM (IpWJF)

366 Anyone else have any names to uh, not look up. :shifty eyes:

Posted by: Buzzion at July 21, 2016 12:39 AM (bMG0w)

367 365 Live from the mall parking lot. It's me and a broken car!
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 12:39 AM (IpWJF)

Oh no. What happened? Dead battery?

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:39 AM (0mRoj)

368 >>>> [piffle]
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:36 AM
-----
[ No one knows what that word means except Slapweasel. So doesn't count]

Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:40 AM (6IPEM)

369 368 >>>> [piffle]
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:36 AM
-----
[ No one knows what that word means except Slapweasel. So doesn't count]
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:40 AM (6IPEM)

[does too]

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:40 AM (0mRoj)

370 cPosted by: Donna&&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersands and &&& so there) at July 21, 2016 12:27

Best wishes dear. Hope to see you on the dance floor at another WIMOMEE in the near future.

T

Posted by: Farmer at July 21, 2016 12:40 AM (o/90i)

371 According to PJ O'Rourke:

"It is always tempting to impute
unlikely virtues to the cute."
---------------

He also described the Kennedys as ".. sewer trout who managed to swim upstream into American political life."

Of course, the Clintons weren't on the scene so far, so he hadn't seen anything yet.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 12:41 AM (J3phO)

372 Prayers Donna.

What's with all the hate for HR Puffnstuff?!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:41 AM (hscyr)

373 @367 - Coolant leak. Killing time waiting for the pig to cool off so I can limp the four miles home.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 12:41 AM (IpWJF)

374 The other one I was thinking of was the HE-162 called the Salamander (during development) and Sparrow.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:41 AM (3ZoRf)

375 The way out is too easy. Repudiate the national
debt. Flat-out declare any debt issued since the founding of the Federal
Reserve to be illegal, and raise new cash by auctioning off 99% of
Federal lands for non-Federal-Reserve-Notes (since Federal Reserve Notes
are backed by the National Debt). When this is done, swap the new cash
for old at whatever exchange rate people see fit.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (EzgxV)


And we will do that when they outlaw fractional reserve and go back to specie backed money.

Otherwise we have an Argentinian "Austral" situation - a default and immediate run-up of debt all over again with a new fiat currency. Leading to a second, greater hyperinflation and default.

(buying a fist-full of Austral coins at some diversity fair made me first wonder about the mechanism of inflation, hard currency and fractional banking)

Posted by: Kindltot at July 21, 2016 12:41 AM (ry34m)

376 352: No, different "starlet".

But I, uh, my friend knows who Danny D. is too. Skinny Brit dude with, well, you know. I, uh, my friend would just like to shake his hand. Maybe salute.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:41 AM (DW+jj)

377

I see your piffle and raise you a rubbish

Posted by: Brian Balderdash at July 21, 2016 12:42 AM (CDpC4)

378 Hah. I posted a the name of a city with the same name as a political candidate, a verb that is also the name of a political candidate, and a form of government that a major political party derives its name from.

Got tagged with [no RNC stuff]

Granted, I was intentionally messing around.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 21, 2016 12:42 AM (KRwzj)

379 Anyone else have any names to uh, not look up. :shifty eyes:

Hyapatia Lee is a bad one on the work computer.

Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 12:42 AM (mRvs9)

380 [Goodnight, Donna&. I'm not doing the praying thing lately, but I'll try my best]

Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:42 AM (6IPEM)

381 the kennedys. a disfunctional, perverted, drunk, drugged up bunch of horse faced fucks that three quarters of this country still worships like a bunch of trained seals.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 21, 2016 12:42 AM (ucDmr)

382 377

I see your piffle and raise you a rubbish
Posted by: Brian Balderdash at July 21, 2016 12:42 AM (CDpC4)

I am going all in with Poppycock!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:43 AM (3ZoRf)

383 Prayers Donna.

What's with all the hate for HR Puffnstuff?!
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:41 AM (hscyr)

Aside from that damned earwig theme song and the skeevy colors, nothing.
Although I have to say it was preferable to that fucking Purple Dinosaur.

Posted by: tubal at July 21, 2016 12:43 AM (d6TTt)

384 Difference between brackets and parentheses:

Here's how I titled a Bing Crosby song in my music library:

Don't Fence Me In [featuring The Andrews Sisters]

Here's how iTunes titled it:

Don't Fence Me In (With The Andrews Sisters)

Makes a world of difference!

Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 12:43 AM (aFQtB)

385 [Sycacuse]

Posted by: president o'bumbles at July 21, 2016 12:44 AM (RmrGn)

386 Hyperinflation or Deflationary Depression, the choice is theirs. Print,
or just default outight. WIth the former, you have piles of worthless
"money". With the latter, you have zero money. Same thing, you have
nothing, it's just whether that 0 is piles of cash, or no pile.
---
The important part, exposing the government's total inability to meet its promises, is the same either way. Technically a default doesn't completely annihilate the money supply as there will be some people who are above water and could conceivably conduct trade amongst themselves while everything else goes to shit. If you have cash and the ability to defend it at that point, you're going to be able to buy a lot of existing stuff at greatly reduced prices if you're interested.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 21, 2016 12:44 AM (3Liv/)

387 Piffle is like the Harrumph thing, right? Same expression with diff words?

Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:44 AM (6IPEM)

388 For anyone who likes Danielle Colby from American pickers, she's a burlesque dancer that goes by the name Dannie Diesel.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 21, 2016 12:44 AM (hVdx9)

389 379 Anyone else have any names to uh, not look up. :shifty eyes:

Hyapatia Lee is a bad one on the work computer.
Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 12:42 AM (mRvs9)

Denise Milani. If you like brunettes. SFWish (non-nude at least.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:44 AM (3ZoRf)

390 Vacation continues. Spent time with the grand-niece, read some more Monster Hunter books and have pretty much ignored [stuff ]. More of the same planned for tomorrow. For now, it's off to bed. Goodnight, Horde.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread's Phone at July 21, 2016 12:44 AM (4dbPD)

391 What is the placebo for hey-put-needles-in-my-face? I get it when they're studying pills- give the guy a sugar pill or the real one. But I'm not sure how you double-blind an acupuncture study.

Posted by: t-bird at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (OLNwX)


I suppose you could just stick the needles in randomly, instead of following the "chi" nodes or whatever.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 12:44 AM (GSdpU)

392 331
Hyperinflation or Deflationary Depression, the choice is theirs. Print,
or just default outight. WIth the former, you have piles of worthless
"money". With the latter, you have zero money. Same thing, you have
nothing, it's just whether that 0 is piles of cash, or no pile.


Pooty-Poot and the Chicoms are making plans for the fall of the dollar
as the world reserve currency. When the shit hits the fan, they'll pull
the plug. That's when we go to shit. Fast.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:33 AM (DW+jj)


You will note that my plan (repudiate debt, auction Federal lands, swap auction proceeds for Federal Reserve Notes) is neither hyperinflationary nor deflationary.....and leaves the Feds bereft of their unconstitutional excuse to have a Bureau of Land Management and Department of the Interior.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:44 AM (EzgxV)

393 376. Danny D.'s other nickname is "The Great White Hope."
Or it should be.....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 21, 2016 12:45 AM (8HGb7)

394 Not exactly [RNC stuff], but...

that Lisa Boothe that was just on Hannity's show is hot.

Posted by: just the facts, ma'am at July 21, 2016 12:45 AM (H9MG5)

395 Anyone else have any names to uh, not look up. :shifty eyes:

Hyapatia Lee is a bad one on the work computer.
Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 12:42 AM (mRvs9)

Weeellll, there is Asphyxia Noir, and Scarlett Pain, and Bonnie Rotten. Or so I've been told.

Posted by: tubal at July 21, 2016 12:45 AM (d6TTt)

396 Anyone else have any names to uh, not look up. :shifty eyes:

Tiffany Towers?

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 21, 2016 12:45 AM (3myMJ)

397 Re: "Piffle."

It's a shame people only say "Humbug!" at Christmastime.

Don't people realize that Scrooge said it all year round?

Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 12:45 AM (aFQtB)

398 I have binders full of brackets.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at July 21, 2016 12:45 AM (MLfDH)

399 Coolant leak. Killing time waiting for the pig to cool off so I can limp the four miles home.
Posted by: Blanco Basura
---------------------

Ugh. Be very careful to not overheat. Beg/borrow/steal any container that you can to refill on the way. Also, turn heater on full blast.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 12:45 AM (J3phO)

400 "I am going all in with Poppycock!"
-Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:43 AM (3ZoRf)

*Shows a full balderdash*

Thanks for playing, fellas!

*hauls in the pot*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:45 AM (6gk0M)

401 387 Piffle is like the Harrumph thing, right? Same expression with diff words?
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:44 AM (6IPEM)

Piffle is what you say when something goes wrong without going into "Damn" or "Shit".

If you take the Blazing Saddles definition of "Harrumph" it could be looked at as assent.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:45 AM (3ZoRf)

402 I see your piffle and raise you a rubbish
Posted by: Brian Balderdash


Pfft.

Posted by: Codswallop at July 21, 2016 12:46 AM (1xUj/)

403 It's a shame people only say "Humbug!" at Christmastime.

Don't people realize that Scrooge said it all year round?
Posted by: RKae
---------------

Bah!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 12:46 AM (J3phO)

404
388 For anyone who likes Danielle Colby from American pickers, she's a burlesque dancer that goes by the name Dannie Diesel.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 21, 2016 12:44 AM (hVdx9)


Does she still do that? Because there was that girl on Pawn Stars who got fired off the show but still worked at the shop because she used to be a Suicide Girl.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 21, 2016 12:46 AM (bMG0w)

405 By 2030, Nigeria wants to send an astronaut into space.

I noticed they didn't say anything about getting him back again.

Posted by: Socratease at July 21, 2016 12:46 AM (2GbWn)

406 400 "I am going all in with Poppycock!"
-Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:43 AM (3ZoRf)

*Shows a full balderdash*

Thanks for playing, fellas!

*hauls in the pot*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:45 AM (6gk0M)

Nice.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:47 AM (3ZoRf)

407 Don't forget the loser idiot who couldn't pass the bar who killed himself, his wife and her friend because he was a shit-poor pilot who wasn't instrument rated flying in weather with a cast on his leg. And it only took about one week after his death for his piece of shit magazine to fold.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (zc3Db)


Or his sister, when there was a push to "give " her Hillary's senate seat. They asked her why she thought she should get the seat and she came up with the brilliant idea that she should get it because she was JFK's daughter. Even liberal New Yorkers couldn't stomach that one.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 21, 2016 12:47 AM (+lVUW)

408 373 @367 - Coolant leak. Killing time waiting for the pig to cool off so I can limp the four miles home.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 12:41 AM (IpWJF)

Suckage.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:47 AM (0mRoj)

409 Anyone else have any names to uh, not look up. :shifty eyes:



Rachel Ryan

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 21, 2016 12:47 AM (MNgU2)

410 The way the Fed works, and all central bank system works, is the "profit" from monetizing the debt is returned to the sovereign, in our case, Uncle.

So, Fed monetizes $100 of Uncle debt. Uncle pays 1 cent interest on that debt. The Fed turns that 1 cent back over to Uncle as "profit".

In reality, the Fed takes its operating costs out, which keeps the money in circulation. Some of that cost is actually paying Treasury for the newly printed money, and a tiny fraction is paid back to the banks as "dividends" on the "stock" they buy in the Fed.

IOW, if add Uncle and the Fed's balance sheets together, the interest on monetized debt cancels.

This solves the problem of interest taking monetary base out of the system. They all do it via some means. WIth the ECB, it's done in a more Byzantine fashion.

The "profit" returned is officially dubbed "interest on Federal Reserve Notes outstanding". They structure it as the Fed has to "pay a fee" for the privilege of handling US currency.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:48 AM (DW+jj)

411 @399- No worries, as soon as it's cooled enough I can reach home. Just have to be patient with the patient.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 12:48 AM (IpWJF)

412 400 "I am going all in with Poppycock!"
-Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:43 AM (3ZoRf)

*Shows a full balderdash*

Thanks for playing, fellas!

*hauls in the pot*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:45 AM (6gk0M)

Not so fast.

*drops a bunkum and a tommyrot*

*mic drop*

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:48 AM (0mRoj)

413 >>> If you take the Blazing Saddles definition of "Harrumph" it could be looked at as assent.
----
Crap. I denounce myself, but I thought Harrumph was a Winnie the Pooh reference.

I need to watch Blazing Saddles.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:48 AM (6IPEM)

414 >>>I see your piffle and raise you a rubbish

Posted by: Brian Balderdash at July 21, 2016 12:42 AM (CDpC4)<<<

Blatherskite.

Posted by: Gizmoduck at July 21, 2016 12:48 AM (H9MG5)

415 Before the market-ticker went dark, he used to write about how that's not possible in a debt based system. Or rather noted that those trying to do it kept failing and wondering why. The problem, as I understand it, is if you expand the money supply by issuing debt, the act of paying off the debt with interest takes out more currency than the original issuance put in. And the more debt you issue, the faster currency gets sucked out of the system.

Now, if you can push interest rates negative, that problem goes away, but then anyone with any sense pulls their money out of the banks and puts it in their mattress (or some other form they find suitable for hiding value from the system). Sure you can make paper money illegal, but at some point all the fucking around destroys everyone's confidence in your paper/electron currency and the whole thing collapses anyway.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 21, 2016 12:38 AM (3Liv/)


The problem with the above reasoning from the market ticker (at least, so far as I see it) is that it is assuming that the monetary authorities can control interest rates. But that is historically untrue. Central banks can exercise a little bit of control of interest rates at the periphery but they cannot fight the market for very long. When the market wants to move one way on interest rates it's pretty much all over for the central banks.

And the point you make about negative interest rates is important. With low interest rates, or negative, there is very little need for a banking system for individuals. Lowering interest rates as low as we have them now (so much as authorities are able to) only serves to remove the reasons for the very existence of banks for individual savers. Runs on banks become that much more likely, which are the soft spots that banks are always possible victims of, and that takes away from the stability of the banking system, as a whole, which makes the banking industry even less desirable to use.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 12:48 AM (zc3Db)

416 "Piffle" is more or less equal to B.S.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:48 AM (6gk0M)

417 Bandersnatch, actually nine ME-262s were acquired by Watson's Whizzers.

Vera, Red 35, was a two seat version.*
Connie/Pick became T-4012 and originally had a photo-recon nose.**
FE-110***
FE-111****
Wilma Jeane was one of four ME-262s equipped with the 50mm cannon. On ferry flight to Cherbourg suffered a severe engine vibration, German pilot bailed out, and plane crashed. Only loss of Operation Lusty.
Four other ME-262s were listed on the ferry flight to Cherbourg via Melun.

To add confusion 'What Was It' was a second B-1a used by Watson's men. But it never apparently flew to Cherbourg. This might be the one they 'borrowed' from the RAF who had their own version of Operation Lusty.

* This might be the Lichtfield plane.
** 4012 was used in comparison flights with the P-80. Plane was rebuilt by Hughes Aircraft and FE-111's fighter nose was attached. Now on display at Planes of Fame.
*** FE-110 is on display at Wright-Patterson.
**** FE-111with T-4012's nose went to the Smithsonian.

But the first ME-262 to fall into US hands was FE-711. The German test pilot defected with the plane as soon as his family was behind Allied lines. This is the plane that is bare metal with all the checkers on the fuselage from the use of filler. Crashed near Xenia, OH.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 12:49 AM (GYSvp)

418 "Crap. I denounce myself, but I thought Harrumph was a Winnie the Pooh reference.

I need to watch Blazing Saddles.
"
-Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:48 AM (6IPEM)

No need for denunciation.

...Oh Bother.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:50 AM (6gk0M)

419 "Piffle" is more or less equal to B.S.
Posted by: Slapweasel

----

Yup. It just means "nonsense."

Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 12:51 AM (aFQtB)

420 Acccck just liked at the clock. Time to crash, 0500 rolls around all too soon. Fappy dreams all

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:51 AM (z1LsB)

421 For anyone who likes Danielle Colby from American pickers, she's a burlesque dancer that goes by the name Dannie Diesel.


Is that a for real thing? Is that the girl who stays behind and calls everyone before the idiots show up and knows all the things and makes all the plans?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 12:51 AM (1xUj/)

422 DUring the Crisis, to "save the system", the Fed also ended up buying, monetizing a more than a shit ton trillion of mortgage back security dogshit. THe interest on that is thus part of the Fed's "profit". Which adds in a goes to Uncle.

You can think of that as offsetting some of the interest Uncle pays as well.

There are a number of ways you can think about this. In short, there has to be a way to keep the interest from sucking the created money out of the system. And this is how that is done. Uncle, the federal govt, gets the benefit of the money creation, essentially as cancelling the interest payments on the monetized portion of the debt he owes.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:51 AM (DW+jj)

423 she came up with the brilliant idea that she should get it because she was JFK's daughter. Even liberal New Yorkers couldn't stomach that one.

I'll bet you they could have if they thought there was going to be some nice rent-seeking opportunities for themselves in it.

Posted by: Socratease at July 21, 2016 12:51 AM (2GbWn)

424 Fappy dreams, bebe's!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:51 AM (6gk0M)

425 ----
Crap. I denounce myself, but I thought Harrumph was a Winnie the Pooh reference.

I need to watch Blazing Saddles.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:48 AM (6IPEM)

It would be a good idea, if only to see what epople mean when they quote it here so much. Tip: do not watch with someone of the modern vaporish constitution- for their safety.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:52 AM (3ZoRf)

426 Well tomorrow night here should be fun. Lol.
Yeah, probably not.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:52 AM (6IPEM)

427 It would be a good idea, if only to see what epople mean when they quote it here so much. Tip: do not watch with someone of the modern vaporish constitution- for their safety.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:52 AM (3ZoRf)

Indeed. Otherwise you'll need fainting couches and extra sets of pearls for clutching.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:53 AM (0mRoj)

428 Sock off.
Tomorrow.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 21, 2016 12:53 AM (RmrGn)

429 388 For anyone who likes Danielle Colby from American pickers, she's a burlesque dancer that goes by the name Dannie Diesel.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 21, 2016 12:44 AM (hVdx9)


Does she still do that? Because there was that girl on Pawn Stars who got fired off the show but still worked at the shop because she used to be a Suicide Girl.

Posted by: Buzzion
****

Different rules for different shows I guess because she still does both to the best of my knowledge.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 21, 2016 12:53 AM (hVdx9)

430 It is always fun here when Maet is on patrol!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:54 AM (6gk0M)

431 Evening all.
Missed all the fireworks.
But on the upside only 44 more days to college elbows.
Oh. And football too.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 21, 2016 12:54 AM (08Znv)

432 Coolant leak. Killing time waiting for the pig to cool off so I can limp the four miles home.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 12:41 AM (IpWJF)


Just drain the radiator, it'll cool off in no time.

Posted by: Pizza Historian at July 21, 2016 12:54 AM (SEFXb)

433 Sven: pushing a prototype through meant both that your company got access to materials, tools and power and manpower, and it also meant your design team didn't go to the Eastern front or occupation duties in Slovenia.

There was also the Dornier flying wing that was supposed to be built, but yeah, the Salamander was flown and for a good pilot it was considered a good combat craft

If you look up German Jets 1945 you will find an amphigorey of odd designs.

This one, the Lippisch P.13B coal fired ramjet design proposal, is not the oddest. I mean, besides its configuration, and the fact that it was to use soft, brown coal as a fuel source.

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=1565

Posted by: Kindltot at July 21, 2016 12:55 AM (ry34m)

434 Not so fast.

*drops a bunkum and a tommyrot*

*mic drop*
Posted by: Insomniac
----------------

What a lot of bosh.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 12:55 AM (J3phO)

435 "Biofuels. The Navy needs no biofuels. What they should do is make every
vessel large enough to be called a 'ship' nuclear powered. Because not
having to fuel up at routine intervals gives a tactical advantage, of
course."

Deploy all the way across the Pacific at flank speed and arrive in an immediately combat-ready condition.

Also: the decompounding of logistics expense from having to pay for fewer oilers and their crews. This somehow never gets thought of in the Congressional and Pentagonal lifecycle cost studies.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 21, 2016 12:56 AM (noWW6)

436 But it is probably, aside from Airplane! one of the most quotable movies of all time.

"Mongo is merely pawn in game of life."

"The ***** is near" "He says the sheriff is near."

"Screw you, I work for Mel Brooks."

"Baby please, I am not from Havana!"

"It's twew, it's twew!"

"They said you was hung!" "And they was right!"

"More beans Mr. Taggert?" "I'd say you've had enough!"

"That's Hedley!"

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:56 AM (3ZoRf)

437 399
Coolant leak. Killing time waiting for the pig to cool off so I can limp the four miles home.

Posted by: Blanco Basura

---------------------



Ugh. Be very careful to not overheat. Beg/borrow/steal any container
that you can to refill on the way. Also, turn heater on full blast.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 12:45 AM (J3phO)

Fiancee had "coolant problem" that turned out to be a cracked radiator. When we fixed the radiator, it had a problem where it surged and lagged, surged and lagged.....analysis said, "dead spaces in coolant system" -- pursuing that, I noted the coolant had little oily polka dots --> blown head gasket. Do not let coolant go to steam.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:56 AM (EzgxV)

438 "Not in the face!"

"Sounds like steam escaping."

"Drive me off this picture!"

Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 12:57 AM (aFQtB)

439 Bandersnatch, actually nine ME-262s were acquired by Watson's Whizzers.

In my defense I acknowledged that you would know a fuckton more than I.

I did grow up about ten miles away from Willow Grove, PA, so I did see one of the ME-262s on a fairly regular basis.

They had a Delta Dart, too.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 12:57 AM (1xUj/)

440 By the way, I should probably apologize to Man With No Party for acting like an ass. He didn't deserve my subtle and upper-cuttish dickery.

I like that dude, even though he sets little traps for the ignorant... lol. I still get a kick out of it.

Poor chemjeff. He really, really liked cheese.

...and Fapplebee's

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:58 AM (6gk0M)

441 @432- No need to drain the radiator, the leak will do it for me.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 12:58 AM (IpWJF)

442 Suck it Democrats!!!!11!1!11!

Love,
Cleveland

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 21, 2016 12:59 AM (Od14x)

443 432- No need to drain the radiator, the leak will do it for me.


Posted by: Blanco Basura
****

You can always pee in it.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 21, 2016 12:59 AM (hVdx9)

444 So, the Fed's balance sheet is $4.3T. Less some minor convoluted details, which would take paragraphs to detail, that is the amount of money the Fed has created at the moment. The assets the Fed creates this against is interest bearing.

So all total, this means that roughly $4.3T of Uncle debt is "interest free", because the Fed returns the interest collected to Uncle. Less its own operating expenses and the other shit it pays out to other entities.

The more money printed, the less net interest Uncle pays on his debt.

They do it in a convoluted way, but when you add Uncle and the Fed together, you see how it all cancels. The real expense of running the Fed and physically printing the money and all that, would then be a direct expense of Uncle rather than hidden in the separate "Federal Reserve" entity.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:59 AM (DW+jj)

445 >>> By the way, I should probably apologize to Man With No Party for acting like an ass. He didn't deserve my subtle and upper-cuttish dickery.
-----
Nah, no need for any so sorries. He's an alpha like you. He can take it.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:59 AM (6IPEM)

446 "Little bastard shot me right in the ass!"

"We didn't have a chance to wash up after our weekly cross burning."

"Hello boys, how are you?"

"We'll work up a number 6 on 'em."

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:00 AM (3ZoRf)

447 436 But it is probably, aside from Airplane! one of the most quotable movies of all time
--------------------
Glad you threw in the "probably" because I'd have Roadhouse, Princess Bride, Raising Arizona higher on the list.
YMMV.

Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 01:00 AM (dzPJC)

448 410
The way the Fed works, and all central bank system works, is the
"profit" from monetizing the debt is returned to the sovereign, in our
case, Uncle.

So, Fed monetizes $100 of Uncle debt. Uncle pays 1
cent interest on that debt. The Fed turns that 1 cent back over to
Uncle as "profit".

In reality, the Fed takes its operating
costs out, which keeps the money in circulation. Some of that cost is
actually paying Treasury for the newly printed money, and a tiny
fraction is paid back to the banks as "dividends" on the "stock" they
buy in the Fed.

IOW, if add Uncle and the Fed's balance sheets together, the interest on monetized debt cancels.


This solves the problem of interest taking monetary base out of the
system. They all do it via some means. WIth the ECB, it's done in a more
Byzantine fashion.

The "profit" returned is officially dubbed
"interest on Federal Reserve Notes outstanding". They structure it as
the Fed has to "pay a fee" for the privilege of handling US currency.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:48 AM (DW+jj)


Not that this makes anything you said less true, but I was referring to greenbacks when I said "Federal Reserve Notes" -- you know, the slips of paper with dead Presidents printed on 'em with "Federal Reserve Note" printed across the top.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 01:00 AM (EzgxV)

449 @437- May already be too late for that. But I gotta try to save this one. Can't afford another right now.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 01:01 AM (IpWJF)

450 "Suck it Democrats!!!!11!1!11!

Love,
Cleveland
"
-Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 21, 2016 12:59 AM (Od14x)

Love that thought! Please allow me to expound upon it...

Suck it NBA!!!

Suck it American League!!!

-Straight Outta' C-Town

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:01 AM (6gk0M)

451 413
>>> If you take the Blazing Saddles definition of "Harrumph" it could be looked at as assent.

----

Crap. I denounce myself, but I thought Harrumph was a Winnie the Pooh reference.



I need to watch Blazing Saddles.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:48 AM (6IPEM)


You need to watch Blazing Saddles.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 01:02 AM (EzgxV)

452 No need to drain the radiator, the leak will do it for me.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 12:58 AM (IpWJF)

Ok, just rev it up while cranking up the AC, and it'll cool off faster!

Posted by: Pizza Historian at July 21, 2016 01:02 AM (SEFXb)

453 Glad you threw in the "probably" because I'd have Roadhouse, Princess Bride, Raising Arizona higher on the list.
YMMV.


And everyone always quotes two lines from Idiocracy.

I want to talk about what is under-memed. Not enough people quote "Thank You For Smoking" and it's all full of all the best lines.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:03 AM (1xUj/)

454 You get a tan from standing in the English rain.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:39 AM (0mRoj)


It's not tan, it's rust. (born and raised in Vancouver, same thing)

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 01:03 AM (GSdpU)

455 "Nah, no need for any so sorries. He's an alpha like you. He can take it."
-Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:59 AM (6IPEM)

Yeah, of course he can. I'm just getting right with God in front of everybody, I guess.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:03 AM (6gk0M)

456 Since we can't have politics in the ONT, I offer you vodka instead...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3-vqYvTXjc

Posted by: Obakeinu at July 21, 2016 01:04 AM (ry4ab)

457 The problem with the above reasoning from the market ticker (at least,
so far as I see it) is that it is assuming that the monetary authorities
can control interest rates. But that is historically untrue. Central
banks can exercise a little bit of control of interest rates at the
periphery but they cannot fight the market for very long. When the
market wants to move one way on interest rates it's pretty much all over
for the central banks.
---
The ticker guy would definitely agree with you about the central banks' lack of control. He's suggested they may actually be following the market. I think they might be bullshitting the market into keeping rates low but can't directly force it to do so (they can flood the system with currency, but they can't control where it goes once it's out of their hands). And if I was unclear, he certainly wouldn't advocate that they try.

I think the example he made was of Japan who's been at the QE trough for over 20 years and is failing to inflate their way out of their debt.

As discussed above, sooner or later low interest rates and the general games-playing is going to convince enough people to pull their value out of circulation, which will lower the dollar value of stuff generally, which when applied to debt means interest rates will rise regardless of the preferences of governments and banks.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 21, 2016 01:04 AM (3Liv/)

458 Cop friend stopped by tonight wearing a prototype camera on his chest. He said that the first day he had a non-compliant he had to taze a bit. Heh. All on camera bud!

Posted by: OldDominionMom at July 21, 2016 01:04 AM (GzDYP)

459 Worldwide, not counting the Czech Avia copies or the five ME-262 replicas...

There are nine ME-262s left in the world. Six A-1a or A-1b fighters and three B-1a. The South African B-1a is actually a B-1a/U1 night fighter.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:04 AM (GYSvp)

460 Dang, just read story at Drudge about Venezuelans crying at the sight of food in Columbia, which is where 100,000 go to shop now.

Why aren't we bombing them?

With food marked "Courtesy of Capitalism, enjoy."

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 21, 2016 01:05 AM (3myMJ)

461 Quotable movies...

Tonight I watched "The Man in the Glass Booth" for the umpteenth time.

I loaned it to a 20-something kid at work, and he quoted it back at me for the next six months!

"Just one clear day to enjoy!"

Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:05 AM (aFQtB)

462 For anyone who likes Danielle Colby from American pickers, she's a burlesque dancer that goes by the name Dannie Diesel.


I hate all the fucking tattoos. She's a nice looking woman who HAD beautiful fair skin. Sorry, I gotta thing for brunettes, blue eyes, and fair skin. Fair skin is a polite way of saying really really white. I'm racist.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 21, 2016 01:06 AM (2EbTQ)

463 While working out, I was rewatching the Jim Caviezel "The Count of Monte Cristo", damn I love that movie. Some of the performances were okish (looking at you Jacapo) but Caviezel and Richard Harris as Abbe Faria were dead on, imo.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:07 AM (3ZoRf)

464 I'm just getting right with God in front of everybody, I guess.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:03 AM (6gk0M)

Showoff.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 01:07 AM (0mRoj)

465 I just looked at the DTS again. Every week, the "Fed earnings" are deposited in Uncle's "checking account".

The Fed has returned $96.6B to Uncle over the last fiscal year, roughly ten months.

IOW, the Fed's "profit" is over $100B for a year. The Fed would be the most profitable "bank" in the world. This is what happens when you can "print money". And most of it is electronic anyway. On paper, the Fed makes a shit ton of money.

And it's given right back to the Treasury.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:07 AM (DW+jj)

466 I hate all the fucking tattoos.

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Right on!

Next time you're tempted to get a tattoo, people, get a t-shirt instead. If you can wear your dumb "art" on a t-shirt for 5 years, then think about a tattoo.

Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:07 AM (aFQtB)

467 >>>> You need to watch Blazing Saddles.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 01:02 AM
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And now Airplane! too apparently. I don't do well with dated movies or animation. I'll try.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 01:08 AM (rc7Bk)

468 Movies are memorable determinate upon their "quotables".

-Caddyshack
-The Big Lebowski
-Anything with Ahhhhnold

...you get the picture.

...no pun intended until afterward.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:08 AM (6gk0M)

469 Bummer. The Great Escape is on This Network and I missed the beginning of it.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 21, 2016 01:09 AM (+lVUW)

470 And now Airplane! too apparently. I don't do well with dated movies or animation. I'll try.
Posted by: L, Elle

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Hell, I still watch Harold Lloyd movies!

Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:09 AM (aFQtB)

471 Dang, just read story at Drudge about Venezuelans crying at the sight of food in Columbia, which is where 100,000 go to shop now.

Why aren't we bombing them?

With food marked "Courtesy of Capitalism, enjoy."

Posted by: Meremortal


Considering the care our current admininstration has with supplying Yazidis with water ...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 01:09 AM (VY8H5)

472 "Showoff."
-Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 01:07 AM (0mRoj)

I know, right?

I'm a jerk.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:09 AM (6gk0M)

473 You need to watch Blazing Saddles.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 01:02 AM
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And now Airplane! too apparently. I don't do well with dated movies or animation. I'll try.


You're fine. Each of them has about two good lines and they're not good movies.

Yeah, I know I'm going get my Man Card called out over this, but I'll bring it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:10 AM (1xUj/)

474 And now Airplane! too apparently. I don't do well with dated movies or animation. I'll try.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 01:08 AM (rc7Bk)

I love Airplane! but if you want to get the full juice, watch "High and the Mighty"- a John Wayne movie that was ripped off in Zero Hour, whose rights were bought in order to make Airplane!

Plus, it is a John Wayne movie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:10 AM (3ZoRf)

475 ...which reminds me:

"The Jerk"

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:10 AM (6gk0M)

476 472 "Showoff."
-Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 01:07 AM (0mRoj)

I know, right?

I'm a jerk.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:09 AM (6gk0M)

Aren't we all.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2016 01:10 AM (0mRoj)

477 You're fine. Each of them has about two good lines and they're not good movies.

Yeah, I know I'm going get my Man Card called out over this, but I'll bring it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:10 AM (1xUj/)

Ok, pistols at dawn, you inveterate guttersnipe! j/k

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:11 AM (3ZoRf)

478 I will mention this because there's a lot of nonsense said in the conspiracy theory world surrounding the Fed. The system is bad and there's a lot to be criticized about how it works, but these lunatics spew nonsense.

One of these is the "Fed is a private bank and all the profit goes to evil bankers!!!!111!" No, the "profit" goes to the gubmint. The gubmit is the evil entity that benefits from the creation of money. :-)

Always has. No sovereign is its right mind would cede the "money creation power" to anyone else other than itself. Uncle doesn't, and never has.

It just does in a convoluted way. Me, personally I believe all the subterfuge is because they're afraid that if the people really understood how the monetary system works, they would lose faith and that system would collapse. "It's all accounting! There's nothing real there!"

So they come up with convoluted ways to do it.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:12 AM (DW+jj)

479 Do you complete the trifecta (Or quadfecta(?)) Bander and not like Big Trouble and Little China and Army of Darkness either?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:12 AM (3ZoRf)

480 +2 for "inveterate".

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:13 AM (6gk0M)

481 Ok, pistols at dawn, you inveterate guttersnipe! j/k
Posted by: Aetius451AD

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I know people hate Woody Allen, but, damn! "Love & Death!" The duelling scene where they open a box containing two pistols and tell him, "Choose."

He picks up the pistols, examines them for a moment... then says, "I'll take these."

Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:13 AM (aFQtB)

482 >>>You're fine. Each of them has about two good lines and they're not good movies.

Yeah, I know I'm going get my Man Card called out over this, but I'll bring it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:10 AM (1xUj/)
<<<




Surely you can't be serious?

Posted by: Ted Striker at July 21, 2016 01:13 AM (H9MG5)

483 I loved that fuckin' rug, man.

Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 01:13 AM (dzPJC)

484 So they come up with convoluted ways to do it.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:12 AM (DW+jj)

Ok, I will ask the same question I have asked many times on the internet: Can you explain to me why a Gold standard is a bad thing, or at least undesireable?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:14 AM (3ZoRf)

485 +2 for "inveterate".


Really? I'd have given the love to "guttersnipe".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:14 AM (1xUj/)

486 483 I loved that fuckin' rug, man.
Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 01:13 AM (dzPJC)

It really tied the room together.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2016 01:14 AM (0mRoj)

487 What's with the marmot... man?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:14 AM (6gk0M)

488 Ok, I will ask the same question I have asked many times on the internet: Can you explain to me why a Gold standard is a bad thing, or at least undesireable?

Posted by: Aetius451AD

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Because paper beats rock?

Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:15 AM (aFQtB)

489 A movie needn't be of good quality to be quotable.

"Con Air."

"I killed a girl and drove through four states wearing her head for a hat."

Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:16 AM (aFQtB)

490 >>>> Do you complete the trifecta (Or quadfecta(?)) Bander and not like Big Trouble and Little China and Army of Darkness either?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:12 AM (3ZoRf
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At this point, you're trying to movie-shame me now
jk

Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 01:16 AM (rc7Bk)

491 Glad you threw in the "probably" because I'd have Roadhouse, Princess Bride, Raising Arizona higher on the list.
YMMV.

Posted by: Chi


How bitchy but correct.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 01:16 AM (VY8H5)

492 And tomorrow we come back und we will cut off your Johnson!

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2016 01:16 AM (0mRoj)

493 @432- No need to drain the radiator, the leak will do it for me.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 12:58 AM (IpWJF)


If you are at a mall, snag some containers of water, so you can top up the rad if it starts to get hot on the trip home.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 01:18 AM (GSdpU)

494 Heh.
"EXcuse me, stewardess - I speak jive."

Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 01:18 AM (dzPJC)

495 "Con Air."

"I killed a girl and drove through four states wearing her head for a hat."
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:16 AM (aFQtB)

That movie had major flaws. The premise always screwed me up: Because of your training, you should be held to a higher standard, so I am sentencing you to 10 years in interest of the plot.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:18 AM (3ZoRf)

496 What was the word that the "Big" Lebowski used for pissing on a rug... "micturates", or something like that?

"Am I to be held responsible when degenerates "micturate" upon any rug in this town, Lebowski?"

Now I have to look it up... lol.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:18 AM (6gk0M)

497 457
The problem with the above reasoning from the market ticker (at least,

so far as I see it) is that it is assuming that the monetary authorities

can control interest rates. But that is historically untrue. Central

banks can exercise a little bit of control of interest rates at the

periphery but they cannot fight the market for very long. When the

market wants to move one way on interest rates it's pretty much all over

for the central banks.
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The ticker guy would definitely
agree with you about the central banks' lack of control. He's suggested
they may actually be following the market. I think they might be
bullshitting the market into keeping rates low but can't directly force
it to do so (they can flood the system with currency, but they can't
control where it goes once it's out of their hands). And if I was
unclear, he certainly wouldn't advocate that they try.

I think
the example he made was of Japan who's been at the QE trough for over 20
years and is failing to inflate their way out of their debt.

As
discussed above, sooner or later low interest rates and the general
games-playing is going to convince enough people to pull their value out
of circulation, which will lower the dollar value of stuff generally,
which when applied to debt means interest rates will rise regardless of
the preferences of governments and banks.


Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 21, 2016 01:04 AM (3Liv/)


Here's the problem Central Bankers have -- if they move directly to hyperinflation, they will be identified, chased down, and executed. Otherwise, that's the perfect solution to their problems -- that is to say, THEIR problems that their incredibly goofball ideas about dipping their beak in everyone's water forever have lead them to.


So they have all these meetings (e.g. Davos) where they sit around a table and say, "we've made big bucks by promising everybody everything and ripping them off, but now there's not enough value in the universe to pay anyone what they think they're owed. What are we going to do?"

And a group says, "make money wastepaper!", and another group says, "you realize they know where we live, right? We do this and none of us will survive the next 60 days."

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 01:18 AM (EzgxV)

498
489 A movie needn't be of good quality to be quotable.

"Con Air."

"I killed a girl and drove through four states wearing her head for a hat."
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:16 AM (aFQtB)


But it needs to be of good quality to be identifiable. You give me that line and I wouldn't be able to tell you the movie. Just because you quote a movie doesn't mean it's quotable.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 21, 2016 01:18 AM (bMG0w)

499 People like gold standard because you can trade in your currency for something valuable.

Gold is good because it doesn't rust. It makes pretty jewelry. It's a universal conductor so you can use it in electronics to link anything to anything else.

Other than that it's useless and has only shamanaistic value.

People who think money should be "real" also don't mind money being based on a mineral that grows mostly under Russian and South Africa.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:18 AM (1xUj/)

500 484: Money supply expansion.

With gold representing a fixed monetary base, your supply of money is fixed, or can only grow as fast as new gold can be mined. That's also a benefit. :-)

With a hard, fixed system, games cannot be played. Money cannot be created irresponsibly. But sometimes it needs to be responsibly created.

How shall I put this. "It is widely believed" that a fixed money supply causes wild swings in the economy. Inflation and then deflation, oscillating back and forth. There are arguments against that.

This is a complicated subject and anyone who claims that really know all the answers doesn't.

But at any rate, there are times when the system needs to be able to expand the money supply, quickly.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:19 AM (DW+jj)

501 Almost made it home. Lost my nerve and shut it down about a half mile away. I'll give it 20 minutes and try again.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 01:19 AM (IpWJF)

502 Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, dude, at least it's an ethos!

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2016 01:19 AM (0mRoj)

503 That movie had major flaws. The premise always screwed me up: Because of your training, you should be held to a higher standard, so I am sentencing you to 10 years in interest of the plot.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

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Oh, it's utterly ridiculous! Working at an airport, I know that if a plane slightly bumps into something it's over. It's not airworthy.

It's an absurd cartoon.

But I just love "Put... the... bunny... back... in... the... box."

Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:20 AM (aFQtB)

504 473
You need to watch Blazing Saddles.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 01:02 AM

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And now Airplane! too apparently. I don't do well with dated movies or animation. I'll try.



You're fine. Each of them has about two good lines and they're not good movies.



Yeah, I know I'm going get my Man Card called out over this, but I'll bring it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:10 AM (1xUj/)


Blazing Saddles has quotable memes or scenes every 90 seconds throughout the movie.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 01:20 AM (EzgxV)

505 How bitchy but correct.
Posted by: weft cut-loop
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Wasn't intended to be. At all.
And I will concede that Airplane should be near the top. I don't even need youtube because a lot of the quotes are running through my head right now.

Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 01:21 AM (dzPJC)

506 >>>"Con Air."

"I killed a girl and drove through four states wearing her head for a hat."
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:16 AM (aFQtB)<<<




Put. the bunneh. back. in. the. box.



Posted by: Cameron Poe at July 21, 2016 01:21 AM (H9MG5)

507 "Sheeeet"="Golly" in subtitles.

"Guess I picked the wrong week to quit xxxx"

"What a pisser."

"Air Israel, you are clear to taxi." (The image makes this joke.)

"Oh, why pretend? You want me to have an abortion."

"I asked the guy next to me to pinch me to make sure I was awake."

"He's up to 1000 then down to 500. He's all over the place. What an asshole!"

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:21 AM (3ZoRf)

508 For some odd reason the images on this page are not loading for me.

http://stormbirds.com/squadron/planes/555.htm

Okay looking at Roy W. Brown's photo of the plane in question in Walter Boyne's Messerschmitt Me 262: Arrow to the Future on pg 59 it would be fair to call the plane 'White 35' since what I originally mistook as either Red or possibly Blue is actually the Luftwaffe camouflage. The numeral 35 is only a white outline.

T/FE-4012 Connie/Pick II has the numeral 25 as a white outline also just forward of the windscreen and just after the fairings for the RB 50/30 cameras in the nose. This photo is on pg 62 of the same book.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:22 AM (GYSvp)

509 publius:

Doesn't a gold standard also make it necessary to raid other countries that have gold?

Just wondering.

Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:22 AM (aFQtB)

510 Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2016 01:22 AM (0mRoj)

511 Anna: Good luck with your writing and your new schedule.

Didn't say that earlier with all the hysteria.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 21, 2016 01:24 AM (wB8Tg)

512 "Am I to be held responsible when degenerates "micturate" upon any rug in this town, Lebowski?"

Now I have to look it up... lol.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:18 AM (6gk0M)


That is a perfectly cromulent word.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 01:24 AM (GSdpU)

513 Recalling last night's ONT, where I was going on about the Ancient Aliens and Anunaki lunacy theory, they have one about why we like gold.

You see, the Anunnaki came to earth to mine gold. They had a real use for it, in the lore. They then created us humans as slaves, by adding their own DNA to the existing stock of dumb primates to make a little smarter slave primate, us.

And that's why we value gold, because the gods, the Anunnaki aliens all wanted it.

:-)

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:24 AM (DW+jj)

514 But at any rate, there are times when the system needs to be able to expand the money supply, quickly.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:19 AM (DW+jj)

Ok, I have heard the opposite argument made: that a fixed monetary system tends to smooth out the highs and lows.

I can understand the sometimes momentary needs to expand monetary supply, but it always seems like the pluses outweigh the minuses- from what I have seen.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:24 AM (3ZoRf)

515 Doesn't a gold standard also make it necessary to raid other countries that have gold?

Just wondering.

Posted by: RKae


The core of Mercantilism might seem to suggest that but many countries gave up gold/metal for trivial things.

Think Rome and the Silk Road.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 01:25 AM (VY8H5)

516 And that's why we value gold, because the gods, the Anunnaki aliens all wanted it.

:-)
Posted by: publius

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Wasn't that the plot of "Cowboys & Aliens"?

Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:25 AM (aFQtB)

517 I like my coffee like I like my men...

Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 01:25 AM (dzPJC)

518 "You want a toe?!? I'll get you a toe. I can get you a toe within a fucking hour, Dude".

"I DON'T ROLL ON SHABBOS!"
"You're not even Jewish, man!
..."Shomer Shabbos!"

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:26 AM (6gk0M)

519
516 And that's why we value gold, because the gods, the Anunnaki aliens all wanted it.

:-)
Posted by: publius

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Wasn't that the plot of "Cowboys & Aliens"?
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:25 AM (aFQtB)


Battlefield Earth.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 21, 2016 01:26 AM (bMG0w)

520 Wasn't that the plot of "Cowboys & Aliens"?

Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:25 AM (aFQtB)


Yes.

Though one of these stories is considerably older than the other (overinterpreted or not).

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 21, 2016 01:26 AM (wB8Tg)

521 Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:22 AM (GYSvp)

Me either on the images.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:26 AM (3ZoRf)

522 For some odd reason the images on this page are not loading for me.

http://stormbirds.com/squadron/planes/555.htm



Yeah the images don't load. It looks like a very old web page.

There's nothing at Willow Grove any more. They decomissioned the air station and got rid of the display aircraft.

I have no idea what happened to them.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:27 AM (1xUj/)

523 All right morons, I'm out for the night. Hopefully to sleep and perchance to dream, and forget about this cold, cruel, miserable thing called life for a few hours.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2016 01:27 AM (0mRoj)

524 Shut the fuck up, Donny.

Posted by: Maetenloch at July 21, 2016 01:27 AM (pAlYe)

525 People who think money should be "real" also don't mind money being based on a mineral that grows mostly under Russian and South Africa.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:18 AM (1xUj/)


Gold can be found in damned near every country of the world. You have to work hard to produce it, which is why it has value.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 01:27 AM (GSdpU)

526 Wasn't that the plot of "Cowboys & Aliens"?

That was a fun movie.

Posted by: tbodie at July 21, 2016 01:27 AM (2El4P)

527 G'Night, Insomniac!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:28 AM (6gk0M)

528 #152- the wife said her ex would rather run a window unit in the upstairs bedroom than try to keep the whole house cold.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at July 21, 2016 01:28 AM (SSiqh)

529 Good Night, Insomniac. Which seems kind of ironic, doesn't it?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:28 AM (3ZoRf)

530 >>>You're fine. Each of them has about two good lines and they're not good movies.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:10 AM (1xUj/)
<<<




Bander, do you like movies about gladiators?

Posted by: Capt. Oveur at July 21, 2016 01:28 AM (H9MG5)

531 516: I don't know, I never saw that, but I wanted to.

Sci-fi and the conspiracy loons, the true believers, are always borrowing from each other, going back and forth.

It was Zecharia Sitchin who came up with the Anunnaki stuff, and that was before the movie.

Sitchin is just a strain of the whole "ancient aliens" stuff. It does make for some good sci-fi.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:28 AM (DW+jj)

532 I believe the ending plane crash in Con Air lasted a full 15 minutes.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 21, 2016 01:29 AM (MLfDH)

533 Wasn't that the plot of "Cowboys & Aliens"?

That was a fun movie.
Posted by: tbodie

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Now how can you get away with saying that, but I'm getting beat up for taking stupid delight in "Con Air"?

It's like there are different rules for you, Hillary!

Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:30 AM (aFQtB)

534 G'night, Insomniac - wait, that's ironic...
And everyone I neglected to see off up thread. I'm fading myself.

Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 01:30 AM (dzPJC)

535 Bander, do you like movies about gladiators?
Posted by: Capt. Oveur at July 21, 2016 01:28 AM (H9MG5)

"Captain Oveur to the white phone." "No the WHITE phone."

"Ever spent any time in a turkish prison?"

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:31 AM (3ZoRf)

536 I believe the ending plane crash in Con Air lasted a full 15 minutes.

Conservation of Momentum. H'wood is big on conservation.

Posted by: tbodie at July 21, 2016 01:31 AM (2El4P)

537
533 Wasn't that the plot of "Cowboys & Aliens"?

That was a fun movie.
Posted by: tbodie

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Now how can you get away with saying that, but I'm getting beat up for taking stupid delight in "Con Air"?

It's like there are different rules for you, Hillary!
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:30 AM (aFQtB)



He didn't claim it was quotable.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 21, 2016 01:31 AM (bMG0w)

538 Blimey! It's the wife!

Gotta look like I've been working!

Later!

Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:31 AM (aFQtB)

539 "You know that the... marmot. Within the confines of the...

That ain't legal, neither."

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:32 AM (6gk0M)

540 G'Night, RKae!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:33 AM (6gk0M)

541 Now how can you get away with saying that, ...

I mostly lurk.

Posted by: tbodie at July 21, 2016 01:33 AM (2El4P)

542 Bander, do you like movies about gladiators?


See? I knew that was coming. That's why I said I'd throw down my Man Card.

I will take on anyone in arm wrestling, beer chugging, Godfather quotes, or anything else that people consider manly.

Except maybe sports trivia, I'm not good at that.

I don't like Blazing Saddles or Airplane because I don't like slapstick and I will bet my Man Card on any game of skill. Except sports trivia.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:33 AM (1xUj/)

543 "You know that the... marmot. Within the confines of the...

That ain't legal, neither."

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:32 AM (6gk0M)



"Mmmmm marmories are made of this..."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 01:34 AM (GSdpU)

544 Aliens

"We're in some real pretty shit now man. Now what the fuck are we supposed to do?!" "I dunno, why don't we like a fire, sing a couple of songs. Why don't we try that?"

"I like to keep this for close encounters."

"You hit those, and it's adios muchachos."

"It doesn't matter when they're acturian, baby!"

"Bug hunt."

"I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:34 AM (3ZoRf)

545 Lost my nerve and shut it down about a half mile away. I'll give it 20 minutes and try again.


Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 01:19 AM (IpWJF)

Good job.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 21, 2016 01:34 AM (3myMJ)

546 With a hard, fixed system, games cannot be played. Money cannot be created irresponsibly.

Not just the creation of money, but the government cannot deficit spend at will, otherwise its gold supply will be sucked dry (as was happening in 73 and why Nixon fully released the dollar from any connection to gold).

But sometimes it needs to be responsibly created.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:19 AM (DW+jj)


Not very often ... and the few times when one might want to create money for a good reason (there are so few of these good reasons floating around) are far outweighed by the integrity of the monetary system being insured by the gold peg. There is little more that a monetary needs to have other than integrity and stability. When the money is strong and stable the rest of the economy is relieved of much friction and works that much better.

The only reason why people dislike the gold standard is because they want the government to be able to spend like there's no tomorrow (and to literally help to make sure that there will be no tomorrow). And the Fed types hate the gold standard because that takes all their power away, as you stated though they can still play games with bank reserve requirements and the like ... but that's not nearly as much fun as being in seemingly total control of the economy and markets (temporary as it is ... but so much fun, nonetheless).

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 01:35 AM (zc3Db)

547 In the old days, gold was the "world's reserve currency". The balance of trade was settled in gold.

So if Country A was running a trade surplus, it accumulated gold, while the rest of the world lost it. If you're running a net trade deficit, you'd be losing your gold supply.

Note, this would tend to make Country A inflate (more gold to "stuff"), while the rest of the world would net deflate (less stuff to gold). This would tend to correct the problem, making prices go up in Country A, who would then import.

Thus the system sort of favors trade balance.

But the problem is shipping all that damn gold back and forth. So, you end up keeping it all in various vaults and then creating paper to represent it. You're now creating a current against gold, essentially.

And you start having fractional reserves. When you're playing with gold "certificates", you can start creating more of them than than you have gold. And you've just started creating money, essentially.

We've done away with the gold and just keep the paper with nothing to back it, other than promises.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:35 AM (DW+jj)

548 "Mmmmm marmories are made of this..."
-Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 01:34 AM (GSdpU)

Now you're just 'wierding me out'.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:35 AM (6gk0M)

549 509
publius:



Doesn't a gold standard also make it necessary to raid other countries that have gold?



Just wondering.

Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:22 AM (aFQtB)


The best thing about a gold standard is that there are consequences for randomly fucking around with the value of currency. That quite a few of them are bad is a comparatively minor cost compared to the horror of behavior when there are no consequences.

Remember that Jefferson was widely ascribed to have said, "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of
their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and
corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of
all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent
their Fathers conquered.... I believe that banking institutions are more
dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.... The issuing power
should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it
properly belongs."

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 01:35 AM (EzgxV)

550 I bet Bander thinks the new Ghostbusters is good.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 21, 2016 01:35 AM (bMG0w)

551 Wasn't that the plot of "Cowboys & Aliens"?

Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:25 AM (aFQtB)


That was a surprisingly fun movie.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 01:36 AM (zc3Db)

552 "This is what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass!"

Love,
We The People

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 21, 2016 01:36 AM (Od14x)

553 I bet Bander thinks the new Ghostbusters is good.
Posted by: Buzzion



I don't mind being unpopular, but that's a low blow dead boy.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:37 AM (1xUj/)

554 Gold can be found in damned near every country of the world. You have to work hard to produce it, which is why it has value.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
----------

Heh.

Posted by: Canadian Palladium miner at July 21, 2016 01:38 AM (J3phO)

555 Bandersnatch, the collection got moved. the two seat ME-262 is now at Pensacola. And they painted the the fuselage numeral too high, in that Brown photo you see inside the white lines for the 5 the pale licht blau or RLM 76 undersurface color. Actually with the restoration they painted the demarcation line which is a wavy fuzzy airbrush line too far down on the nose. In Brown's photo the lighter undersurface color extends all the way up to the lower cannon port on the right side with only a couple splotches of either RLM 81 or RLM 83. Also the right engine intake with the Reidel starter in Brown's photo is bare metal, not camouflaged as the restored aircraft shows.

http://wingsoffreedommuseum.org/

Click on the Our Aircraft tab. Then click on the Relocated tab to find the ME-262.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:38 AM (GYSvp)

556 Probably TiVos Girls as well.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 21, 2016 01:38 AM (bMG0w)

557 526 Wasn't that the plot of "Cowboys & Aliens"?

That was a fun movie.
Posted by: tbodie



Yep, it was! I don't care what her politics are, Olivia Wilde is gorgeous. Kind of a so so actress but she seems to show up in movies I like; Cowboys & Aliens and Rush (that F1 movie back in 2013).

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 21, 2016 01:38 AM (2EbTQ)

558 >>>I will take on anyone in arm wrestling, beer chugging, Godfather quotes, or anything else that people consider manly.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:33 AM (1xUj/)<<<




You do not come to an ONT and talk to a man like Capt. Oveur like that!

Posted by: Fredo Corleone at July 21, 2016 01:39 AM (H9MG5)

559 People like gold standard because you can trade in your currency for something valuable.

Gold is good because it doesn't rust. It makes pretty jewelry. It's a universal conductor so you can use it in electronics to link anything to anything else.

Other than that it's useless and has only shamanaistic value.

People who think money should be "real" also don't mind money being based on a mineral that grows mostly under Russian and South Africa.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:18 AM (1xUj/)


Gold has all the important attributes of real money. That is the real value of gold and that is a very important thing to have around. There is nothing shamanistic or unreal about gold's natural utility as "money". Gold is about the only thing we know of that has all the most important attributes of money and exists in the correct proportions to serve as such.

Gold's utility in jewelry or fillings or anything else has nothing to do with its main value as "money".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 01:39 AM (zc3Db)

560 Heh.

Posted by: Canadian Palladium miner at July 21, 2016 01:38 AM (J3phO)


You! You are the cheap so&so that stole the catalytic converter off my truck! Miner, my ass.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 01:40 AM (GSdpU)

561 For the aliens to create humans to mine gold is one of the dumbest concepts ever.

If you can travel between planets, well there is a simple solution. Take a solar-powered laser and melt a nickel-iron asteroid. You will then have gold, silver, platinum, and other 'precious' metals literally running out your ears in less than six months.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:40 AM (GYSvp)

562 I'll give it 20 minutes and try again.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 01:19 AM (IpWJF)

Is it a stick shift? Try just putting it in 1st and cranking the starter.As long as the battery's good, it should get you there. Otherwise, crank up that AC to cool it down, with high revs.

Posted by: Japanese Whaler Misi Naru at July 21, 2016 01:41 AM (SEFXb)

563 I will take on anyone in arm wrestling, beer chugging, Godfather quotes, or anything else that people consider manly.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:33 AM (1xUj/)

Now see, I am exactly the opposite. I do not really like Godfather. It is eminently quotable and exquisitely done, but I just do not like crime family dramas.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:41 AM (3ZoRf)

564 by Slapweasel @ 321

^ what he said ^

Posted by: Chi


I wouldn't do that.

He's likely luring you into a man-trap.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 01:42 AM (VY8H5)

565 I also have to apologize to The PrimordealOrderedPair for jumping on his ass for no good reason months ago.

-My apologies to a polite and fruitful member of the horde for my drunken vitriol. You did nothing to deserve it and I sincerely apologize to you, Sir.

Continue about your evening, as I need no reciprocity from yourself.

Simply know that I over-reacted to one of your posts, months ago, and I apologize.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:42 AM (6gk0M)

566 559
People like gold standard because you can trade in your currency for something valuable.



Gold is good because it doesn't rust. It makes pretty jewelry. It's a
universal conductor so you can use it in electronics to link anything
to anything else.



Other than that it's useless and has only shamanaistic value.



People who think money should be "real" also don't mind money being
based on a mineral that grows mostly under Russian and South Africa.



Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:18 AM (1xUj/)



Gold has all the important attributes of real money. That is the
real value of gold and that is a very important thing to have around.
There is nothing shamanistic or unreal about gold's natural utility as
"money". Gold is about the only thing we know of that has all the most
important attributes of money and exists in the correct proportions to
serve as such.



Gold's utility in jewelry or fillings or anything else has nothing to do with its main value as "money".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 01:39 AM (zc3Db)


If you're talking about commodities speculation, you might just buy yourself a brick of Erbium.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 01:42 AM (EzgxV)

567 If you can travel between planets, well there is a simple solution. Take a solar-powered laser and melt a nickel-iron asteroid. You will then have gold, silver, platinum, and other 'precious' metals literally running out your ears in less than six months.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:40 AM (GYSvp)

The John Ringo "Troy" books capture this point as well.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:43 AM (3ZoRf)

568 Posted by: Canadian Palladium miner at July 21, 2016 01:38 AM (J3phO)


You! You are the cheap so&so that stole the catalytic converter off my truck! Miner, my ass.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
-----------

Yeah? Well the joke was on me. That piece of crap was made using platinum.

Posted by: Canadian Palladium miner at July 21, 2016 01:43 AM (J3phO)

569 Of course, I get here, and lousagirl cleared out a while ago.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 01:44 AM (EzgxV)

570 I'll give you a classic case of when you need to be able to create money, and fast.

There is a bank. It has loans. It doesn't have anywhere near the cash, the physical money, to cover all the deposits. The loans are good. But there's a panic or something. Depositors start withdrawing, and the bank is under pressure for cash.

Now, what must it do to get that cash? Beg, borrow, or sell against it's assets, those loans. This selling pressure will drive the market value of that stuff down, fast.

This is known as a crisis of liquidity. There's not enough money, physical cash to sastisfy demand. The system shits the bed for want of money.

Enter the central bank. It simple monetizes the assets of that bank, creating the physical cash to sastify the demand.

This works only because the loans, the assets are good.

If they're not, it's not a liquidity problem, it's a solvency problem.

Creating money in a solvency problem is bad, it's wanton creation of money.

Guess what the Crash of '08 was? Yes, a solvency crisis.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:44 AM (DW+jj)

571 "Pretty soon you will be feeling all unnecessary.... Feeling like you are floating on a cloud of titties." (IIRC)

Rush 1991

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 21, 2016 01:46 AM (Od14x)

572 >>>The John Ringo "Troy" books capture this point as well.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:43 AM (3ZoRf)
<<<




Why Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave.

Posted by: Doc Holliday at July 21, 2016 01:46 AM (H9MG5)

573 *Yep, it was! I don't care what her politics are, Olivia Wilde is gorgeous. *

I have a personal rule regarding actors/actresses:

I won't seek out your opinion on anything, if you feel the need to tell me your opinion I will then avoid you and all your work.

My wife complains occasionally that I rarely take her to see movies.

Posted by: tbodie at July 21, 2016 01:46 AM (2El4P)

574 If you can travel between planets, well there is a simple solution. Take a solar-powered laser and melt a nickel-iron asteroid. You will then have gold, silver, platinum, and other 'precious' metals literally running out your ears in less than six months.
-------------

*ponders a large molten glob of metal hurtling through space*

What could go wrong?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 01:46 AM (J3phO)

575 [514 on gold standard]

"I can understand the sometimes momentary needs to expand monetary supply, but it always seems like the pluses outweigh the minuses- from what I have seen. "

Totally agree. The problem with "sometimes momentary needs to expand money supply" is that you have to put someone in charge of it, i.e. government/politicians/bankers/whoever. It might work for a while but eventually politics and greed will take over. Better to have an independent money standard they can't f*ck with. As Churchill (allegedly, all his quotes are alleged I guess) said about democracy, "worst form of government except for all the others".

Posted by: FOAF at July 21, 2016 01:48 AM (p0JMG)

576 Why Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave.
Posted by: Doc Holliday at July 21, 2016 01:46 AM (H9MG5)

"See we started a game we never got to finish... Play for Blood?"

"Poor soul. You were just too high strung."

That might be Kilmer's best movie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:48 AM (3ZoRf)

577
Is it a stick shift? Try just putting it in 1st and cranking the starter.As long as the battery's good, it should get you there. Otherwise, crank up that AC to cool it down, with high revs.

Posted by: Japanese Whaler Misi Naru at July 21, 2016 01:41 AM (SEFXb)


Now that there is a good way to turn the starter to slag. Drive it on the starter to clear an intersection, or to get off a level crossing before the Twentieth Century Limited comes barreling through? Fine. Try to go a mile on it? No way, Jose. Besides, his car runs. If he cranks it, the engine will start.


Grab some bottles of water. Start the engine, and allow it to idle. Trickle water into the rad slowly, but enough to outpace the leak. That avoid having a big slug of cold water hitting the hot block all at once, which could make it crack. Once rad is full, put cap on loosely, so it won't build pressure, and drive on home at normal speed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 01:48 AM (GSdpU)

578 570
I'll give you a classic case of when you need to be able to create money, and fast.


There is a bank. It has loans. It doesn't have anywhere near the cash,
the physical money, to cover all the deposits. The loans are good. But
there's a panic or something. Depositors start withdrawing, and the bank
is under pressure for cash.

Now, what must it do to get that
cash? Beg, borrow, or sell against it's assets, those loans. This
selling pressure will drive the market value of that stuff down, fast.


This is known as a crisis of liquidity. There's not enough money,
physical cash to sastisfy demand. The system shits the bed for want of
money.

Enter the central bank. It simple monetizes the assets of that bank, creating the physical cash to sastify the demand.

This works only because the loans, the assets are good.

If they're not, it's not a liquidity problem, it's a solvency problem.

Creating money in a solvency problem is bad, it's wanton creation of money.

Guess what the Crash of '08 was? Yes, a solvency crisis.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:44 AM (DW+jj)

The reason that CBs are trying to boost the stock market is to masquerade a solvency crisis as a liquidity crisis. The fact is, every paper asset is worth less than half of what it trades at. Buy rocks, real estate, art, or metals -- but anything that has a "market" and a "futures market" is rigged.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 01:48 AM (EzgxV)

579 *ponders a large molten glob of metal hurtling through space*

What could go wrong?



The endless sadness?

Posted by: The Silver Surfer at July 21, 2016 01:48 AM (1xUj/)

580 Aestius, try The Pirates of Rosinante by Alexis A. Gilliand. Del Rey. 1982. This was the third book in the Rosinante series that started with The Revolution from Rosinante.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:49 AM (GYSvp)

581 "I wouldn't do that.
He's likely luring you into a man-trap.
"
-Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 01:42 AM (VY8H5)

^This Fuckin' Guy^

I'm actually going through notes when this fucker in on the Food Thread.

It isn't a rue, it is a slurry, damnit!

Thanks to this bastard, I also made my first "pho" last week. I made it with beef knuckle, oxtail, rice noodles, bean sprouts, onions and herbs MINUS CILANTRO.

Thanks for the recipe, Amigo!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:49 AM (6gk0M)

582 Made it home, now drinking.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 01:49 AM (T/cxb)

583
*ponders a large molten glob of metal hurtling through space*
What could go wrong?

Posted by: Mike Hammer
-----------------
Man, what are you doing with a gun in space?

Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 01:50 AM (dzPJC)

584 For the aliens to create humans to mine gold is one of the dumbest concepts ever.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:40 AM (GYSvp)


The problem with *all* of these "arguments" is that everybody is trying to solve an incomplete equation that has nothing but variables.

In a language they don't know.

I don't know if there were or are aliens visiting, and I don't know why they'd be doing it, or whether they'd tell the truth about why they were doing it.

Unfortunately, everyone is required by law to have a *firm* opinion on everything.

"I don't know" has been shadowbanned.

If someone asked me what a hypothetical alien's motivation would be for something, about the only answer I could possibly have is "the fuck would I know?"

I don't even know why humans do what they do about 95% of the time.

/rant

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 21, 2016 01:50 AM (wB8Tg)

585 Continue about your evening, as I need no reciprocity from yourself.

Simply know that I over-reacted to one of your posts, months ago, and I apologize.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:42 AM (6gk0M)


Everything's good.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 01:50 AM (zc3Db)

586 Once rad is full, put cap on loosely, so it won't build pressure, and drive on home at normal speed.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
-----------

And, as I said earlier, heater on full blast.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 01:50 AM (J3phO)

587 573: I'd still bang her. :-)

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 21, 2016 01:50 AM (2EbTQ)

588 Now see, I am exactly the opposite. I do not really like Godfather. It is eminently quotable and exquisitely done, but I just do not like crime family dramas.

Movies about the Clintons in other words ...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 21, 2016 01:51 AM (AoK0a)

589 I don't even know why humans do what they do about 95% of the time.

/rant
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith
-------------

I don't know why I do things 95% of the time.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 01:52 AM (J3phO)

590 582
Made it home, now drinking.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 01:49 AM (T/cxb)


Yay! *High five* Good to hear.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 01:52 AM (EzgxV)

591 *drops a Pikachu spawn point near Merovign's secret lair*

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:52 AM (GYSvp)

592 *ponders a large molten glob of metal hurtling through space*

What could go wrong?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 01:46 AM (J3phO)


There is an obscure Jules Verne novel, written in a comic vein, "The Hunt For the Meteor". The meteor being solid gold, and some hundred meters in diameter. Worth looking for.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 01:53 AM (GSdpU)

593 >>>That might be Kilmer's best movie.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:48 AM (3ZoRf)
<<<




"Maybe poker's just not your game Ike. I know! Let's have a spelling contest!"



"Oh. Johnny, I apologize; I forgot you were there. You may go now."



(with a Cowboy saying he's too trunk, and seeing double to shoot someone) "I have two guns, one for each of ya. "



(and obviously!) I'm your huckleberry.

Posted by: Doc Holliday at July 21, 2016 01:53 AM (H9MG5)

594 Take a solar-powered laser and melt a nickel-iron asteroid. You will then have gold, silver, platinum, and other 'precious' metals literally running out your ears in less than six months.

SMOD is coming, we're all going to be rich!

Posted by: tbodie at July 21, 2016 01:53 AM (2El4P)

595 I don't even know why humans do what they do about 95% of the time.

Chocolate, sex, spite ...

Posted by: Adriane the Pop Psychology Critic ... at July 21, 2016 01:53 AM (AoK0a)

596 *drops a Pikachu spawn point near Merovign's secret lair*

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:52 AM (GYSvp)


Ahh, victi... I mean subjects.

Guests, I meant guests.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 21, 2016 01:53 AM (wB8Tg)

597 Made it home, now drinking.

Posted by: Blanco Basura
---------------

*tinkling noises of cooling metal*

Posted by: Blanco's ride at July 21, 2016 01:54 AM (J3phO)

598 " *drops a Pikachu spawn point near Merovign's secret lair*"
-Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:52 AM (GYSvp)

I think I know what that means, but that's either sexual or cruel.

...probably both.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:54 AM (6gk0M)

599 I don't know why I do things 95% of the time.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,



*punches Mike Hammer*


I have nothing against you, I'm just curious how you react to things now.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:54 AM (1xUj/)

600 576 Why Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave.
Posted by: Doc Holliday at July 21, 2016 01:46 AM (H9MG5)

"See we started a game we never got to finish... Play for Blood?"

"Poor soul. You were just too high strung."

That might be Kilmer's best movie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:48 AM (3ZoRf

Might be one of the all time best acting performances ever. He got robbed by the Academy.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 21, 2016 01:55 AM (Od14x)

601 I wonder if the 70s rush to abandon the gold standard had anything to do with scientists talking seriously about asteroid mining. One good sized asteroid with just a tiny percentage of gold could produce more than all the gold mined on Earth throughout human history. Then entirety of the gold in human possession wouldn't fill a single football stadium.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2016 01:55 AM (IdCqF)

602 That might be Kilmer's best movie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD


*wields dick chopper drone*

Oh. Okay.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 01:56 AM (VY8H5)

603 "Chocolate, sex, spite ..."
-Posted by: Adriane the Pop Psychology Critic ... at July 21, 2016 01:53 AM (AoK0a)

*HAH!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:56 AM (6gk0M)

604
562 That is the exact opposite of good advice.
I see no indication that you're kidding, which makes that either ignorant or malicious

Posted by: MAx at July 21, 2016 01:56 AM (0uuiT)

605 *punches Mike Hammer*

I have nothing against you, I'm just curious how you react to things now.


SCIENCE !!!

Posted by: Adriane the Pop Psychology Critic ... at July 21, 2016 01:56 AM (AoK0a)

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:56 AM (6gk0M)

607 Whew! I'd thought I'd lost my "close tags".

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:56 AM (6gk0M)

608 (and obviously!) I'm your huckleberry.
Posted by: Doc Holliday at July 21, 2016 01:53 AM (H9MG5)

One of Russell's best movies too:

"A man don't have to go heeled to get the drop on a dob(?) like you."

"No!"

"See that? It says UNITED STATES MARSHALL! YOU CALLED DOWN THE THUNDER WELL NOW YOU GOT IT! Now run, you cur. Tell all the other curs the law's coming. YOU TELL THEM I'M COMING!!!!!"

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:57 AM (3ZoRf)

609 I have nothing against you, I'm just curious how you react to things now.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
-------------

You might be in the 5% 'known' area of behavior.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 01:57 AM (J3phO)

610 @ Merovign

At least you did not say Red Planet was Kilmer's best movie. How about Real Genius?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:57 AM (GYSvp)

611 Yep, there's only one self-aware conscious, intelligent species we know about: ourselves.

We have exactly one data point to extrapolate what other intelligent, conscious being might be like.

In most of all this alien conspiracy, I see people projecting very human like motives and world views on the aliens. :-) I wouldn't bet that a real alien would be anything like us in "thinking", however that might be.

For example, new-age hippie liberal types always imagine the aliens to be, well, new-age hippies. That is, they will save the world from the evil rightwingers or something masquerading as that.

Of course, there are "anthromorphizing" arguments, if that's a word, that all intelligent life must be human-like. I've never really bought 'em. Well, they might be true or they might not, we just don't have enough information.

I have no fucking clue what an alien would be like until I meet an actual alien.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:57 AM (DW+jj)

612 587 573: I'd still bang her. :-)
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 21, 2016 01:50 AM (2EbTQ)
.

Posted by: tbodie at July 21, 2016 01:58 AM (2El4P)

613 "Ok, sure. You may be smarter than me. But can you do this?" *pirouettes away*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:59 AM (3ZoRf)

614 At least you did not say Red Planet was Kilmer's best movie. How about Real Genius?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:57 AM (GYSvp)

Ah, Red Planet. That was an entertaining movie, but does not survive close inspection. Mission to Mars was in the same boat.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:01 AM (3ZoRf)

615 ..."How about Real Genius?"
-Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:57 AM (GYSvp)

Hot Nerdy Girl: "Thur Gone!"

(I thought she was hot because I was really, really hot.)

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:01 AM (6gk0M)

616 Kurt Russell is going to be in Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Huh.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:01 AM (3ZoRf)

617 I have no fucking clue what an alien would be like until I meet an actual alien.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:57 AM (DW+jj)


Come to the Home Depot parking lot tomorrow morning at 9:00 sharp. Wear plaid, so we can recognize you.

Posted by: Manuel y Hernando at July 21, 2016 02:02 AM (GSdpU)

618 "Somebody has to wake-up Lazlo."

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:02 AM (6gk0M)

619 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:44 AM (DW+jj)

That's just a standard run on a bank that you are describing. All banks are susceptible to them and there is no need to create money to take care of them. The banks can buy insurance for their depositors (or the depositors can buy it - I know its force, now, but talking about a general system where banks are not under those rules) or the depositors can be made to wait for their money that is uninsured. This is why banks used to have more tiered deposits (longer term CDs and the like) to balance out these possibilities of runs. Of course, now, in the US, these sorts of runs are close to impossible because the feral government won't let you take more than a certain amount of money out of YOUR account within a certain time without harassing you!

But, in any case, a bank run isn't solved by creating money for depositors who take their money out since the bank loses those deposits and, probably, runs at a loss from that point as the deposits are their cheapest source of funds. So I wouldn't rank this point highly on the list of why there is any great need to be able to expand money supply beyond the gold backing, especially since we know what happens to every little bit of leeway we give to any government entity ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 02:02 AM (zc3Db)

620 >>>One of Russell's best movies too:
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:57 AM (3ZoRf)<<<




(after bitch slapping Billy Bob Thornton)

"You gonna do somethin'? Or are you just gonna stand there and bleed"

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 21, 2016 02:03 AM (H9MG5)

621 "Do you touch yourself? God doesn't like it when you touch yourself."

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:03 AM (6gk0M)

622 Posted by: Doc Holliday
-------------
I always liked you on Johnny Carson.

Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 02:03 AM (uV2DT)

623 But can you do this?"

*pirouettes away*


Oh ... I hate to tell you ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFeCJx2WKa4

Posted by: Adriane the Intertube Is Full of Depressing Examples of Excellence Critic ... at July 21, 2016 02:04 AM (AoK0a)

624 You mean first viewing NASA using a military killbot that the DoD swears has been pacified did not clue you in. Or the Mission Commander with a crippled spaceship sends her engineer down to the planet. Really??

Mission to Mars tried to be 2001 but it failed. But it did not fail in its attempt to reach Kubrick's pinnacle as badly as Interstellar managed to.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 02:04 AM (GYSvp)

625 At least you did not say Red Planet was Kilmer's best movie. How about Real Genius?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:57 AM (GYSvp)


"Why is that toy on your head?"
"If I wear it anywhere else, it chafes."

"I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, "...I drank what?"

And no less than two Einstein jokes.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 21, 2016 02:04 AM (wB8Tg)

626 Before he was a Vice-Presidential candidate, Mike Pence had a little-known early career as a suave super-secret agent:

The Adventures of Mike Pence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOoe90tbAOI

Posted by: zombie at July 21, 2016 02:05 AM (jBuUi)

627
616 Kurt Russell is going to be in Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Huh.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:01 AM (3ZoRf)


Star Lord's father perhaps?

Posted by: Buzzion at July 21, 2016 02:06 AM (bMG0w)

628 I have no fucking clue what an alien would be like until I meet an actual alien.

Posted by: publius


I think most aliens are going to be algae type things on marsh surfaces, or buoyant jellyfish-type gas-giant inhabitants.

Or blog thread commenters.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 02:06 AM (VY8H5)

629 I am Groot...'s father.

Posted by: Kurt Russel in Guardians of the Galaxy 2 at July 21, 2016 02:07 AM (H9MG5)

630 "Why is that toy on your head?"
"If I wear it anywhere else, it chafes."

"I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, "...I drank what?""
And no less than two Einstein jokes.
-Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 21, 2016 02:04 AM (wB8Tg)

*HAH!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:07 AM (6gk0M)

631 "I found Number One." Coquettish smile

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 02:07 AM (GYSvp)

632 Huh. It's 1:06 a.m. and I gotta go to work this morning.

Suddenly rembering why I read the ONT a day late.

Night y'all.

Posted by: tbodie at July 21, 2016 02:08 AM (2El4P)

633 If I were going to pick the alien conspiracy theory to go with, it would be this one:

The US govt (and others) shit their pants realizing there were indeed some "aliens from outer space" coming here. This was right around WWII, and they were scared shitless when they discovered what was going on. They found out the aliens were sort of "herding us", taking up humans and animals and doing all sorts of experiments on.

They made no effort to communicate and rebuffed all our efforts to communicate with them. We began to pester them in their efforts. That pissed them off.

As this one goes, sometime during the Ike years, we pissed 'em off real good. They did a "show of force", showing the US military that they could destroy us effortlessly if they wanted to. There was something in this lore that they "beamed" one of Ike's personal possessions out of some remote location right into the White House, just to show "We own your little world, tiny hu-MANs".

There message was clear: Fuck with us not, puny hu-MANs. We have no interest in you, you are nothing but lower life forms. Yes, we're going to abduct your people and do whatever the fuck we want (we like the ass probing. We don't really have to do it, but we just like it).

And you're going to do nothing about it. Stay out of our way, and we let you continue your little civilization here. Mess with us, and we destroy you.

And thus it's been ever since.

Again, if I had to pick one, that's the one I'd go with.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 02:08 AM (DW+jj)

634 >>>I always liked you on Johnny Carson.

Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 02:03 AM (uV2DT)<<<
That was me.

Posted by: Doc Marten at July 21, 2016 02:08 AM (H9MG5)

635 They do not give a name for his character on IMDB. Stallone will be in it too.

Nathan Fillion as well.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:08 AM (3ZoRf)

636 G'Night, tbodie.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:08 AM (6gk0M)

637 Fifty bucks says the first extraterrestrial aliens that we encounter are going to be viruses or prions.

Posted by: zombie at July 21, 2016 02:09 AM (jBuUi)

638 Son, you have a pantyhoes on your head ...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 21, 2016 02:09 AM (AoK0a)

639 Ammo is the final currency

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 21, 2016 02:09 AM (dULJN)

640 I have no fucking clue what an alien would be like until I meet an actual alien.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:57 AM (DW+jj)


I know exactly what an alien would like - Vanessa Angel from Kingpin:

Roy: You're not his type.

Claudia: I'm every man's living entity's type.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 02:10 AM (zc3Db)

641 Fifty bucks says the first extraterrestrial aliens that we encounter are going to be viruses or prions.

Gold or paper money?
: -))

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 21, 2016 02:11 AM (AoK0a)

642 628 I have no fucking clue what an alien would be like until I meet an actual alien.

Posted by: publius

I think most aliens are going to be algae type things on marsh surfaces, or buoyant jellyfish-type gas-giant inhabitants.

Or blog thread commenters.



Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 02:06 AM (VY8H5)



And someone will still want to have sex with it.

Posted by: buzzion at July 21, 2016 02:11 AM (bMG0w)

643 Publius

Robert Silverberg - Those Who Watch
https://www.amazon.com/Those-Watch-T4496-Robert-Silverberg/dp/B002Z6HGZO

Jack Chalker - The Identity Matrix
https://www.amazon.com/Identity-Matrix-Jack-L-Chalker/dp/0671444816

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 02:11 AM (GYSvp)

644 Fifty bucks says the first extraterrestrial aliens that we encounter are going to be viruses or prions.

Posted by: zombie at July 21, 2016 02:09 AM (jBuUi)


They're here already! Priuses, and they are disguised as Toyotas.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 02:12 AM (GSdpU)

645 "Get in the back of the tank!"

-1941

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:12 AM (6gk0M)

646 >>>And someone will still want to have sex with it.

Posted by: buzzion at July 21, 2016 02:11 AM (bMG0w)<<<

Death by snu-snu. I'm ok with that.

Posted by: Zapp Brannigan at July 21, 2016 02:12 AM (H9MG5)

647 "Dad! Can we do it again?!?"
-1941

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:13 AM (6gk0M)

648 639 Ammo is the final currency
Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 21, 2016 02:09 AM (dULJN)

Ammo always spends.

I always liked the idea in the Fallout universe of water being the currency. It made sense because clean water was in short supply though. If it is all clean though, it becomes the opposite of a good monetary system, I suppose.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:13 AM (3ZoRf)

649 638 Son, you have a pantyhoes on your head ...
Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic
--------------------
Oh - I could do that one all night. And of course "I thought you'd be bigger"

Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 02:13 AM (uV2DT)

650 Ammo is the final currency


That there makes sense.

I have a friend who's good at life (I am not) who talks about the three Gs. Guns, goods, and gold.

Well, I can't actually afford to stockpile two of them, but I figure the one that I have will help if times come that make that count.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 02:13 AM (1xUj/)

651 I have no fucking clue what an alien would be like until I meet an actual alien.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:57 AM (DW+jj)


The aliens are already among us. They're just called Hungarians.

Posted by: Leo Szilard at July 21, 2016 02:14 AM (zc3Db)

652 "Harrywouuuuuud!"

*fire!*

-1941

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:14 AM (6gk0M)

653 Or blog thread commenters.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 02:06 AM (VY8H5)

And someone will still want to have sex with it.


Projection is not just a river in Egypt!

Posted by: Adriane the Pop Psychology Critic ... at July 21, 2016 02:14 AM (AoK0a)

654 "Look! A baby wolf!"

-1941

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:15 AM (6gk0M)

655 Did anyone even mention Animal House yet?

Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 02:15 AM (uV2DT)

656 Damon Knight one time translated a French science fiction short story called 'Vanna' I think. Basically out in the universe humans had discovered the perfect sexual partner in this alien species. This guy has one. Then scientists discover they are fatal to humans. And the guy hears it and goes to bed with his love toy anyway.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 02:16 AM (GYSvp)

657 Yes, we're going to abduct your people and do whatever the fuck we want (we like the ass probing. We don't really have to do it, but we just like it).

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)


My theory, and not even as a joke, is that starting in the '60s and '70s child molesters felt emboldened by the Sexual Revolution and all its side-effects, and that there was an exponential sudden increase in the number of very young children/toddlers being molested and raped -- at an age too young to fully remember, but still cognizant enough to be traumatized. When those rape victims grew up and reached adulthood in the '80s and '90s, a substantial number of them were having PSTD "flashbacks" of vague impressions of scary being sticking things up the kids' asses for reasons the kids couldn't fathom. These hazy memories became the whole "alien anal probe" fad because the truth was just too horrible for society to accept -- that the "aliens" in question were actually homosexual pedophiles.

Posted by: zombie at July 21, 2016 02:16 AM (jBuUi)

658 Did the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor, Chi?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:16 AM (6gk0M)

659 That there makes sense.

I have a friend who's good at life (I am not) who talks about the three Gs. Guns, goods, and gold.

Well, I can't actually afford to stockpile two of them, but I figure the one that I have will help if times come that make that count.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 02:13 AM (1xUj/)

I would think alcohol would be more valuble than gold in a post apocalypse type situation, really. Can be used for medicine or recreation. Vodka at least. Everclear definitely. Not sure how good some of the dark ones would be though.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:16 AM (3ZoRf)

660 scary being = scary beings

Posted by: zombie at July 21, 2016 02:17 AM (jBuUi)

661 Good night all.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 02:18 AM (GYSvp)

662 Chi at July 21, 2016 02:13 AM (uV2DT)

I literally slid out of my chair in the theater during that movie I was laughing so hard ...

Posted by: Adriane the Pop Psychology Critic ... at July 21, 2016 02:18 AM (AoK0a)

663 Ace just used that line, Slap.

Then we have "young, dumb and stupid..." and even NDH here.

Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 02:18 AM (uV2DT)

664 -Posted by: zombie at July 21, 2016 02:16 AM (jBuUi)

I know it is only Thursday, but you're harshing my fucking "mellow".

No offense taken. Orange wedges are available in the yellow tent.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:19 AM (6gk0M)

665 Do they come in funny shapes?

Not unless round is funny!

Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 02:19 AM (uV2DT)

666 G'Night, Anna!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:19 AM (6gk0M)

667 An obscure film, that was quite memorable, and funny, while also somewhat prophetic:


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046475/


"The Twonky", starring Hans Conried, about a man cursed with a possessed TV set.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 02:20 AM (GSdpU)

668 Inadvertent "evil" post#. Sorry, Lovecraft's Nightmare!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:22 AM (6gk0M)

669 666 G'Night
Posted by: Slapweasel


When you look at it with fresh eyes, the contraction "G'Night" looks like the name of a Lovecraftian Elder God. So your comment number was appropriate.

"G'Nigth raised his slimy tentacles to the darkened sky..."

Posted by: zombie at July 21, 2016 02:22 AM (jBuUi)

670 zombie at July 21, 2016 02:16 AM (jBuUi)

More than 1 person I've read has said much the same about Freudian Psychology. His 'Study of Anna' sounds a lot like child molestation by her Father ... which Freud turned into manifestation of the unconscious.

Posted by: Adriane the Pop Psychology Critic ... at July 21, 2016 02:22 AM (AoK0a)

671
I would think alcohol would be more valuble than
gold in a post apocalypse type situation, really. Can be used for
medicine or recreation. Vodka at least. Everclear definitely. Not sure
how good some of the dark ones would be though.



Posted by: Aetius451AD[/]

Needs to be over 62% without adjuncts.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 02:23 AM (VY8H5)

672 668 Inadvertent "evil" post#. Sorry, Lovecraft's Nightmare!
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T)

669 666 G'Night
Posted by: Slapweasel

When you look at it with fresh eyes, the contraction "G'Night" looks like the name of a Lovecraftian Elder God.
Posted by: zombie


!!!!!!!

Talk about a crazy coincidence! We both typed "Lovecraft" at the same moment and posted seconds apart!

Spooky, I tells ya.

Posted by: zombie at July 21, 2016 02:24 AM (jBuUi)

673 More than 1 person I've read has said much the same about Freudian Psychology. His 'Study of Anna' sounds a lot like child molestation by her Father ... which Freud turned into manifestation of the unconscious.
Posted by: Adriane the Pop Psychology Critic ... at July 21, 2016 02:22 AM (AoK0a)

Most "make believe monsters" are far less scary than the ones people create themselves.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:24 AM (3ZoRf)

674 Well, I am for the snoozer. Early day tomorrow. Night, all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 02:24 AM (GSdpU)

675 I hunger.

Posted by: The Barrel at July 21, 2016 02:25 AM (3ZoRf)

676 "The Twonky", starring Hans Conried, about a man cursed with a possessed TV set.
-Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 02:20 AM (GSdpU)

That was called "Poltergeist" in Los Estados Unidos.

Por los Maple Personas.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:25 AM (6gk0M)

677 672
668 Inadvertent "evil" post#. Sorry, Lovecraft's Nightmare!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T)



669 666 G'Night

Posted by: Slapweasel



When you look at it with fresh eyes, the contraction "G'Night" looks like the name of a Lovecraftian Elder God.

Posted by: zombie



!!!!!!!



Talk about a crazy coincidence! We both typed "Lovecraft" at the same moment and posted seconds apart!



Spooky, I tells ya.

Posted by: zombie at July 21, 2016 02:24 AM (jBuUi)


It's all good....

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 02:25 AM (EzgxV)

678 G'Night, AOP.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:26 AM (6gk0M)

679 [no RNC stuff]

Posted by: lurking lurker who lurks at July 21, 2016 02:26 AM (I1NVD)

680 Night Anna and AOP.

Posted by: The Barrel at July 21, 2016 02:26 AM (3ZoRf)

681 It's all good....
Posted by: cthulhu


Stop controlling us with your inhuman mind!
I...feel...like...a...marionette!

Posted by: zombie at July 21, 2016 02:27 AM (jBuUi)

682 Needs to be over 62% without adjuncts.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 02:23 AM (VY8H5)

Why 62%? Is that the concentration 99% of bacteria are killed at?

Posted by: The Barrel at July 21, 2016 02:27 AM (3ZoRf)

683 Audio of 'How's the Night Life on Cissalsa?' by Harlan Ellison.

https://archive.org/details/FRRCissalda

Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2016 02:28 AM (IdCqF)

684 In a post apocalyptic world the man with the keys to the Charmin Factory shall be king.

Posted by: buzzion at July 21, 2016 02:28 AM (bMG0w)

685 684 In a post apocalyptic world the man with the keys to the Charmin Factory shall be king.
Posted by: buzzion at July 21, 2016 02:28 AM (bMG0w)

There should be tons of new york times available. And Twilight. And 50 shades of Grey.

Posted by: The Barrel at July 21, 2016 02:30 AM (3ZoRf)

686 Yeah, I would think regular old 40% would work. It'd certainly be better than nothing.
Cheap bourbon has been poured on more than one of my cuts, that's for sure.

Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 02:30 AM (uV2DT)

687 Off oaky sock.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:31 AM (3ZoRf)

688 Most "make believe monsters" are far less scary than the ones people create themselves.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:24 AM (3ZoRf)


Humans *are* monsters. They're just not all bad.

http://cheezburger.com/8278903296

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 21, 2016 02:31 AM (wB8Tg)

689 I'll take coincidence with a chance of of correlation for $1,000, Alex...

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:31 AM (6gk0M)

690 In a post apocalyptic world the man with the keys to the Charmin Factory shall be king.

If it weren't for double entendre, we'd have no entendres at all ...

Posted by: Adriane the Pop Psychology Critic ... at July 21, 2016 02:31 AM (AoK0a)

691 #684

That hasn't worked out too well for Venezuela after nationalizing a Kimberly-Clark factory that was shut down for lack of raw materials.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2016 02:32 AM (IdCqF)

692 Needs to be over 62% without adjuncts.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 02:23 AM (VY8H5)

Why 62%? Is that the concentration 99% of bacteria are killed at?

Posted by: The Barrel


Not a bio-chemist but I think there is a level in a solution in which the tension breaks the normal bacterial/viral barrier and destroys their ability to 'infect' the surrounding environment.

Pls let me know if your experience is otherwise.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 02:33 AM (VY8H5)

693 691 #684

That hasn't worked out too well for Venezuela after nationalizing a Kimberly-Clark factory that was shut down for lack of raw materials.


Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2016 02:32 AM (IdCqF)



I said post apocalyptic world. Not "socialist utopia"

Posted by: buzzion at July 21, 2016 02:34 AM (bMG0w)

694 I can only speak to soap and surface tension.

*exits*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:34 AM (6gk0M)

695 Not a bio-chemist but I think there is a level in a solution in which the tension breaks the normal bacterial/viral barrier and destroys their ability to 'infect' the surrounding environment.

Pls let me know if your experience is otherwise.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 02:33 AM (VY8H5)

No, I studied chemistry a lot more than biology. It just seemed like a specific number and 99% killed is a nice round number that people shoot for when talking about disinfectants.

I like learning new things.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:35 AM (3ZoRf)

696 [no RNC stuff]

Posted by: Clusterfuck Trump at July 21, 2016 02:36 AM (lDnx/)

697 My freshman year in college, toilet paper became a very valuable commodity, more valuable than gold. There were four of us, high school buddies, living in an off-campus apartment. We had a dispute. :-)

It was about who was buying what and who was eating and using shit the others' had paid for, and that wasn't right. So we all had a falling out, where it was every man for himself. You want it, you buy it, and don't mess with my shit.

Some of that shit was toilet paper. We actually hid and hoarded the stuff for a while. I hid mine in a building on campus, in a room I had access to. What's this TP doing here?! Don't ask, man, it's not bothering anybody.

That ended badly when one guy stopped up a toilet using some damn paper bag paper or something.

These are the ways of young, stupid kids, having their first experience living away from home.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 02:37 AM (DW+jj)

698 681
It's all good....

Posted by: cthulhu



Stop controlling us with your inhuman mind!

I...feel...like...a...marionette!

Posted by: zombie at July 21, 2016 02:27 AM (jBuUi)


Could be worse -- @680 we have a talking barrel....

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 02:38 AM (EzgxV)

699 Also fun: who is going to clean the bathroom? "It needs cleaning? Looks fine to me."

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:39 AM (3ZoRf)

700 I am torn between packing the spare bed room with survival supplies & yet to do so would mean admitting that the worst really could happen here, and I wouldn't // couldn't stop.

So I never start.

Posted by: Adriane the Pop Psychology Critic ... at July 21, 2016 02:39 AM (AoK0a)

701 That was called "Poltergeist" in Los Estados Unidos.

Por los Maple Personas.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:25 AM (6gk0M)


It was made in the USA. 1953. I checked several sources, and no mention of release under any alternate titles. Poltergeist was made in 1982, with a remake in 2015.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 02:39 AM (GSdpU)

702 Could be worse -- @680 we have a talking barrel....
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 02:38 AM (EzgxV)

I was drinking something that came from a barrel, so it fits.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:40 AM (3ZoRf)

703 Everyone have a good night.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:41 AM (3ZoRf)

704 I am a fan of this [no NRC stuff] stuff.

With a little effort we could classy up the place. Do some dusting. That lampshade's not so bad.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 02:41 AM (1xUj/)

705 Yes, the two bathrooms became well, one guy's mother visited one time and had a damn heart attack when she went in the bathroom. You guys are filthy! What the hell is the matter with you.

We had two to a bathroom. We actually came to blows one time when one bathroom was so filthy, one came and used the other two's bathroom.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 02:43 AM (DW+jj)

706 -Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:35 AM (3ZoRf)

You are neither "soap", nor "surface tension" so I cannot speak to you, as per the earlier delineated rules.

My apologies for not being able to address your cause at this time. Please register at the approved addresses and inquire post- ... you know, whatever.

Inquiries may not be addressed immediately, as the recipient may be pissing and/or otherwise indisposed.

Slapweasel Farms thanks you for your diligence and patience in these matters. We are constantly avoiding your call.

Please try back when we give a shit.

Thanks!

*Hangs Up Phone*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:43 AM (6gk0M)

707 Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:40 AM (3ZoRf)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsS_CXk2z_Q

Posted by: Adriane the Polka Critic ... at July 21, 2016 02:43 AM (AoK0a)

708 That ended badly when one guy stopped up a toilet using some damn paper bag paper or something.

These are the ways of young, stupid kids, having their first experience living away from home.
Posted by: publius
---------------
I had the exact same experience when I first bought my house. A out the same age. Best friend since 9 or 10 was a roomate.

He had the nerve to say "I don't shit here, man. I shit at work."
Ok, fine, then.
He pulled it off for longer than I thought he could. He lasted at least two weeks driving to work every time before he came home with a Costco pack of TP, though. I was impressed.

Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 02:45 AM (uV2DT)

709 [Nothing personal, but shut-up]

G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!

*throws phone into toilet*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:45 AM (6gk0M)

710 *throws phone into toilet*


A few days in a bag of rice actually works.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 02:48 AM (1xUj/)

711 "A few days in a bag of rice actually works."
-Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 02:48 AM (1xUj/)

LMFAO!

The delay on that fuse 'til the punchline was exquisite!

G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:51 AM (6gk0M)

712 *throws phone into toilet*

Posted by: Slapweasel,


You're such a golden god.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 02:51 AM (VY8H5)

713 G'night, Slap.

Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 02:53 AM (uV2DT)

714 The aliens are already among us. They're just called Hungarians.
Posted by: Leo Szilard at July 21, 2016 02:14 AM (zc3Db)

I was thinking more like mohammedans, but YMMV.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 21, 2016 02:55 AM (+YMhA)

715 708
That ended badly when one guy stopped up a toilet using some damn paper bag paper or something.



These are the ways of young, stupid kids, having their first experience living away from home.

Posted by: publius

---------------

I had the exact same experience when I first bought my house. A out the same age. Best friend since 9 or 10 was a roomate.



He had the nerve to say "I don't shit here, man. I shit at work."

Ok, fine, then.

He pulled it off for longer than I thought he could. He lasted at
least two weeks driving to work every time before he came home with a
Costco pack of TP, though. I was impressed.

Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 02:45 AM (uV2DT)


Here at Casa de Cthulhu, there is backstock on several items: TP, bar soap, dishwashing soap, laundry detergent, batteries, aluminum foil, and baggies (among others). The first decade with the fiancee, she thought that was weird. The second decade, she thought it was handy. We're working on our third decade together, and she tells everyone that they're idiots to do anything else.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 02:55 AM (EzgxV)

716 *unstatic*

"You're such a golden god."
-Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 02:51 AM (VY8H5)

I'm just an idiot with a keyboard and I think you know it.

*falls over chair*

I've gotta go to bed.

*National Anthem*

*Test-Pattern Indian*

*SquEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:56 AM (6gk0M)

717 Check twitter - shoot out in Columbus, Ohio. somebody started shooting at police.

Happened within the last hour.

Injuries? unclear.

Posted by: ArthurK at July 21, 2016 02:56 AM (h53OH)

718 The aliens are already among us. They're just called Hungarians.


Is that a bad thing? I got a handjob from one in college and I liked it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 02:57 AM (1xUj/)

719 #705

I have a close friend that I could never live with unless we had separate bathrooms. When I first became aware of it he was sharing an apartment and I blamed the room mates, because it just didn't seem to match up with his personality. But since then it has become plain that he is a really horrible housekeeper. I'm no great shakes but I'd never leave a toilet with visible fecal matter still on the seat.

The funny thing is that most people who only knew this guy away from home would think he is a Felix but he's really an Oscar.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2016 03:01 AM (IdCqF)

720 Test-Pattern Indian*

*SquEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!*

Posted by: Slapweasel


So, so insulting

*shakes head*

Posted by: guy with large kirpan in pants at July 21, 2016 03:03 AM (VY8H5)

721 And as to any calumnies that might be attached to Andrew Jackson:



"It is to be regretted that the rich and powerful too often bend the
acts of government to their selfish purposes. Distinctions in society
will always exist under every just government. Equality of talents, of
education, or of wealth can not be produced by human institutions. In
the full enjoyment of the gifts of Heaven and the fruits of superior
industry, economy, and virtue, every man is equally entitled to
protection by law; but when the laws undertake to add to these natural
and just advantages artificial distinctions, to grant titles,
gratuities, and exclusive privileges, to make the rich richer and the
potent more powerful, the humble members of society-the farmers,
mechanics, and laborers-who have neither the time nor the means of
securing like favors to themselves, have a right to complain of the
injustice of their Government. There are no necessary evils in
government. Its evils exist only in its abuses. If it would confine
itself to equal protection, and, as Heaven does its rains, shower its
favors alike on the high and the low, the rich and the poor, it would be
an unqualified blessing. In the act before me there seems to be a wide
and unnecessary departure from these just principles.


Nor is our Government to be maintained or our Union preserved by
invasions of the rights and powers of the several States. In thus
attempting to make our General Government strong we make it weak. Its
true strength consists in leaving individuals and States as much as
possible to themselves-in making itself felt, not in its power, but in
its beneficence; not in its control, but in its protection; not in
binding the States more closely to the center, but leaving each to move
unobstructed in its proper orbit.


Experience should teach us wisdom. Most of the difficulties our
Government now encounters and most of the dangers which impend over our
Union have sprung from an abandonment of the legitimate objects of
Government by our national legislation, and the adoption of such
principles as are embodied in this act. Many of our rich men have not
been content with equal protection and equal benefits, but have besought
us to make them richer by act of Congress. By attempting to gratify
their desires we have in the results of our legislation arrayed section
against section, interest against interest, and man against man, in a
fearful commotion which threatens to shake the foundations of our Union.
It is time to pause in our career to review our principles, and if
possible revive that devoted patriotism and spirit of compromise which
distinguished the sages of the Revolution and the fathers of our Union.
If we can not at once, in justice to interests vested under improvident
legislation, make our Government what it ought to be, we can at least
take a stand against all new grants of monopolies and exclusive
privileges, against any prostitution of our Government to the
advancement of the few at the expense of the many, and in favor of
compromise and gradual reform in our code of laws and system of
political economy.


I have now done my duty to my country. If sustained by my fellow
citizens, I shall be grateful and happy; if not, I shall find in the
motives which impel me ample grounds for contentment and peace. In the
difficulties which surround us and the dangers which threaten our
institutions there is cause for neither dismay nor alarm. For relief and
deliverance let us firmly rely on that kind Providence which I am sure
watches with peculiar care over the destinies of our Republic, and on
the intelligence and wisdom of our countrymen. Through His abundant
goodness and heir patriotic devotion our liberty and Union will be
preserved."

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 03:10 AM (EzgxV)

722 When do the zikalimpics start?

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:12 AM (q7aKL)

723 John Calhoun: "I am with the South in death, in victory or defeat. I believe the North is about to wage a brutal and unholy war on a people who have done them no wrong, in violation of the constitution and the fundamental principles of the government. They no longer acknowledge that all government derives its validity from the consent of the governed"

General Lee: "We could have pursued no other course without dishonor. And sad as the results have been, if it had all to be done again, we should be compelled to act in precisely the same manner."

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:16 AM (q7aKL)

724 In college, I learned something. Not with my roommates, thankfully. There are people who learn to wipe standing up. That is, they take a dump, then stand up and go at it with the TP.

This is inefficient and how fecal matter gets on the seat sometimes. When they do a really messy one, loose material, that's when it really makes a mess. And on the floor. And around the sink when, if, they wash their hands.

This blew my mind. Now suggesting to these people that they change their ways. Well, you're gonna get in a fist fight. They take it as a high insult, a challenge to their honor.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 03:17 AM (DW+jj)

725 So I find myself wondering... what in the world placebo for acupuncture that looks enough like acupuncture to fool double blind patients but yet is not acupuncture is there?


Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 03:17 AM (9dfKD)

726 Ew, I never heard of such a thing! Ew! Ew! I say.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:19 AM (q7aKL)

727 So I find myself wondering... what in the world placebo for acupuncture that looks enough like acupuncture to fool double blind patients but yet is not acupuncture is there?


Blow darts with like yellow lizard poison?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 03:20 AM (1xUj/)

728 Tingles down your leg?

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:21 AM (q7aKL)

729 Cooth... for all that Andrew Jackson gets a bad rap (and undeserved blame for the forced removal of the Cherokee that was ordered by Martin Van Buren in 183, he was a complete badass and a warrior for equality under the law .

Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 03:24 AM (9dfKD)

730 183? man, BC or AD?

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:26 AM (q7aKL)

731 that should read 1838 not 183smileyface... I need to mind my parenthetical statements.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 03:27 AM (9dfKD)

732 Was 183 A.D. a good year or a bad year for the Romans? I can't remember.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:28 AM (q7aKL)

733 It happens to the best (and worst) of us. Chill.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:29 AM (q7aKL)

734 Blow darts with like yellow lizard poison?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 03:20 AM (1xUj/)

Those would be some pretty stupid patients if they can't distinguish blow darts delivering painful death from acupuncture :-P

Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 03:29 AM (9dfKD)

735 Pretty dead patients, I'd say.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:30 AM (q7aKL)

736 Unless you have bad aim.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:31 AM (q7aKL)

737 And hit your own finger (Owie, owie, ow, rattle)

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:33 AM (q7aKL)

738 I read something about some study about chiropractic. They did "placebo" versions there, and they called them "sham treatments". The idea is to fool the patient into thinking something is being done, when it's not.

But you've got to manipulate them in someway to make them think something is being done.

I have no idea, but this is something they claim to do.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 03:33 AM (DW+jj)

739 729
Cooth... for all that Andrew Jackson gets a bad rap (and undeserved
blame for the forced removal of the Cherokee that was ordered by Martin
Van Buren in 183, he was a complete badass and a warrior for equality under the law .


Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 03:24 AM (9dfKD)


Despite being a Democrat in party identification, he was a steadfast Republican by nature. The quoted address is a barn-burner: "ut when the laws undertake to add to these natural
and just advantages artificial distinctions, to grant titles,
gratuities, and exclusive privileges, to make the rich richer and the potent more powerful, the humble members of society-the farmers,
mechanics, and laborers-who have neither the time nor the means of securing like favors to themselves, have a right to complain of the injustice of their Government."

As to the idea that Cankles could lay American secrets exposed before our enemies and skate....Jackson would have shot her himself.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 03:33 AM (EzgxV)

Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at July 21, 2016 03:34 AM (VY8H5)

741 Uh-oh

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 03:34 AM (EzgxV)

742 They say in Harlan County,
there are no neutrals there.
You either a Trunpkin man
or a breath for Liberty's air!

Which side are you on, boys?
Which side are you on?

Posted by: NC Mountainl Girl at July 21, 2016 03:35 AM (aQkXH)

743 @publius:
Yeah, like "Oral" Roberts.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:35 AM (q7aKL)

744 *Possible thanks to Marcus Aurelius*

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 03:36 AM (EzgxV)

745 Was 183 A.D. a good year or a bad year for the Romans? I can't remember.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:28 AM (q7aKL)

183 AD was not a particularly good year for the Roman Empire. Marcus Aurelius had died three years prior (ending the era of "the good emperors") and Commodus was fending off coup attempts and getting his ass kicked by the Picts and Caledonians in Britain.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 03:38 AM (9dfKD)

746 Does the cat have Marcus Aurelius' Tongue?

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:38 AM (q7aKL)

747 Sorry, sorry. Just trying to clean the nonsense out of my toes.

Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at July 21, 2016 03:38 AM (VY8H5)

748 As to the idea that Cankles could lay American
secrets exposed before our enemies and skate....Jackson would have shot
her himself.


Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 03:33 AM (EzgxV)

Or maybe beat her to death with his cane as he almost did the guy who tried to assassinate him.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 03:40 AM (9dfKD)

749 You've been dead three years. you go now!

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:41 AM (q7aKL)

750 *bong riff*

It's like a metaphysical thing, if you can imagine metaphysics.

Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at July 21, 2016 03:44 AM (VY8H5)

751 Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 03:33 AM (EzgxV)


ahem... you know the drill.

get in mah belly!

Posted by: The Barrel at July 21, 2016 03:44 AM (wIatL)

752 Fun redbanzai trivia... my great grandfather was named Aurelius and his twin brother was named Rudolphus.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 03:44 AM (9dfKD)

753 not sure about the "placebo" chiropractic "studies", but since i can feel (and hear) the movement, and the changes adjustments bring me, i'm calling "bullshit".

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 21, 2016 03:47 AM (wIatL)

754 Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 03:33 AM (EzgxV)


Agreed. Jackson gets an unfair bad rap these days.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at July 21, 2016 03:48 AM (HalrA)

755 Commodus named after...

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:48 AM (q7aKL)

756 Bandersnatch, you still here?

Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 03:50 AM (6IPEM)

757 not sure about the "placebo" chiropractic "studies", but since i can feel (and hear) the movement, and the changes adjustments bring me, i'm calling "bullshit".

Posted by: redc1c4


Crack you knuckles. Did I replace all medicine? No.

And when are you going to see Ghostbusters?

Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at July 21, 2016 03:50 AM (VY8H5)

758 Milo says it blows.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:52 AM (q7aKL)

759 Thanks to Global Warming... Peru is experiencing a July with temperatures hitting all-time lows of -9 degrees (that's MINUS nine), killing off all the alpacas, it's so cold:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/ perus-andes-bitter-cold-devastates-alpaca-farmers-40759149

In Peru's Andes, Bitter Cold Devastates Alpaca Farmers

After three days of heavy snowfall and bone-chilling temperatures, Mateo Mullisaca watches as one of his alpacas falls to the ground in agony on his farm almost 16,400 feet (5,000 meters) high in Peru's Andes.

"Without water and without food, the weak ones die," the 62-year-old shepherd says as the animal takes its final breath with vultures lurking nearby.

Peru's government has declared a state of emergency in the southern Andes and promised $3 million in relief amid a bitter cold snap that has killed 50,000 alpacas. Authorities fear that if the mercury continues to hit minus 9 Fahrenheit (minus 23 Celsius) as many as 300,000 camelids could die, devastating the largely indigenous families who raise them.

Posted by: zombie at July 21, 2016 03:53 AM (jBuUi)

760 Milo says it blows.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas


Well, ...well....

Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at July 21, 2016 03:54 AM (VY8H5)

761 So what's this I hear about a hole in the sun?

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:55 AM (q7aKL)

762 @M.A. Well done.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:56 AM (q7aKL)

763 Not "Black Hole Sun", an actual big friggin spot!

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:59 AM (q7aKL)

764
The axe murderer looks more like 27 not 17. Since is family is alive and well, why dont they ask them his age?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 21, 2016 04:00 AM (iQIUe)

765 Alpacas care!

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:01 AM (q7aKL)

766 zombie at July 21, 2016 03:53 AM (jBuUi)

You can reason with the alpacas easier than you can the warmists ...

Posted by: Adriane the Globull Warmening Critic ... at July 21, 2016 04:01 AM (AoK0a)

767 Dead alpacas don't wear um...

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:02 AM (q7aKL)

768 Oy.

Roses are red,
Ball of Confusion,
Take Care, Ye Good Morons,
Don't take no contusions ...

Good Night, all

Posted by: Adriane the Globull Warmening Critic ... at July 21, 2016 04:03 AM (AoK0a)

769 Frozen Alpacas! getcher Frozen Alpacas here!

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:04 AM (q7aKL)

770
Up to 80 per cent of women in Pakistan's jails are charged under rules that penalise rape victims.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 21, 2016 04:06 AM (iQIUe)

771 Yup, well-known fact.
Should we nuke 'em now or wait till later?

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:08 AM (q7aKL)

772
Pakistan's ruling party plans to pass long-delayed legislation against "honor killings" within weeks in the wake of the high-profile murder of an outspoken social media star, the daughter of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif said on Wednesday.
....

The government has faced mounting pressure to pass the law against murders carried out by people professing to be acting in defense of the honor of their family.

The law would remove a loophole that allows other family members to pardon a killer.

http://goo.gl/hwzsCL

================
It removes the get out of jail free card but I wonder what the punishment it. Again, I remember that in some countries it was treated as a low level crime with a few months in jail.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 21, 2016 04:10 AM (iQIUe)

773
Yikes! Over 500 women a year are murdered in honor killings in Pakistan.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 21, 2016 04:12 AM (iQIUe)

774 Was this the "Kim Kardashian" of Pakiland?

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:12 AM (q7aKL)

775 The answer is Yes!

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:15 AM (q7aKL)

776 Poor thing, I don't think her ass was even huge.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:16 AM (q7aKL)

777 Three posts in-a-row means that you should hang it up for the evening.

So sayeth the Shepherd...

Posted by: A Referee at July 21, 2016 04:20 AM (6gk0M)

778 Umpire says no way.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:21 AM (q7aKL)

779 Seven-seven-seventh Heaven.

...So sayeth The Flock.

Posted by: A Referee at July 21, 2016 04:21 AM (6gk0M)

780 Just because everybody is asleep I call foul.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:22 AM (q7aKL)

781 Why did I stay up watching the convention when the replay of what I stayed up to watch is on right now?
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2016 04:23 AM (bksJQ)

782 Flock, Seagulls, No way, ref!

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:23 AM (q7aKL)

783 Bandersnatch, you still here?
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 03:50 AM (6IPEM)



I'm back. You still up?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 04:24 AM (1xUj/)

784 ...meh

Posted by: A Suggestion at July 21, 2016 04:24 AM (6gk0M)

785 You're not allowed to say the "C" word.
Besides, we have a referee!

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:25 AM (q7aKL)

786 *poof*

Posted by: OUT at July 21, 2016 04:26 AM (6gk0M)

787 Are you Tired?

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:26 AM (q7aKL)

788 I'm watching a stupid movie.

Text me or show up back here. I'll check in.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 04:28 AM (1xUj/)

789 782
Flock, Seagulls, No way, ref!

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:23 AM (q7aKL)


Weird haircut, and "I ran"....

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 04:29 AM (EzgxV)

790 You need four,
unless you're a trike,
or two
if you're a bike.
or one
if you're a unicycle

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:30 AM (q7aKL)

791 Spares not included.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:30 AM (q7aKL)

792 Sheesh, I thought people were rambling when I was actively watching....turn my back and -- well....

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 04:30 AM (EzgxV)

793 Nobody here except us chickens.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:31 AM (q7aKL)

794 "ALL OTHER ONTS ARE LIES - ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTES!"



The cake is an ONT.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 04:32 AM (EzgxV)

795 Buk Buk Buk Bukkake!

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:34 AM (q7aKL)

796 Many a man has gone to jail for crimes he had no intention of committing, it's just that no high ranking Democrats are among them.

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2016 04:35 AM (bksJQ)

797 Hi Skip. Early riser, or just up late?

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:36 AM (q7aKL)

798 Many a man would face his gun
And many a man would fall.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:39 AM (q7aKL)

799 Anyone have recent experience with vsftpd ?

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 04:39 AM (EzgxV)

800 I'm up again this time every day, got to leave for work in 40 minutes

Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2016 04:42 AM (bksJQ)

801 Ah, So sorry, Retired I am. Hope you will be to before SS runs out.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:46 AM (q7aKL)

802 "The cake is an ONT."
-Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 04:32 AM (EzgxV)

I'm not even angry.
I'm being so sincere right now.
Even though you broke my heart and Killed Me.

-And tore me to pieces.
-And threw every piece
-Into
-A fire.

As they burned, it hurt because
I was so happy for you.

Now these points of data make a beautiful line
And we're out of Beta, we're releasing On Time.

So I'm GlaD I got burned
Think of all the things we learned
For the people who are Still Alive!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxTNqYAWISs

Posted by: Some Guy What Says Stuff] at July 21, 2016 04:47 AM (6gk0M)

803 So, no-one has recent experience with vsftpd.
Is that a hash or a new programming language?

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:48 AM (q7aKL)

804 All I wanna do, is have some fun, until the sun comes up over Santa Monica Boulevard.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:56 AM (q7aKL)

805 803
So, no-one has recent experience with vsftpd.

Is that a hash or a new programming language?

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:48 AM (q7aKL)


vsftpd is a paranoid version of ftp....and is supposedly the default in many major linux releases....but nobody has dealt with it recently.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 04:57 AM (EzgxV)

806 It's Sharkey's Day.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:58 AM (q7aKL)

807 @cthulhu
You had me there for a second.
I gave up Linux for an extended vacation, although I might try to stick it on my Amazon Fire.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 05:01 AM (q7aKL)

808 Virtual something File Transport Protocol Daemon?

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 05:11 AM (q7aKL)

809 808
Virtual something File Transport Protocol Daemon?

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 05:11 AM (q7aKL)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vsftpd

Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 05:16 AM (EzgxV)

810 Virtual PreHyperprotical Poopershoot, Velma~!

Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at July 21, 2016 05:17 AM (VY8H5)

811 Velma! She got the Bass!

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 05:19 AM (q7aKL)

812 It's been a year since the last release but once something so elemental is working and well established, it can go a long time before changes are considered necessary. Especially if the maintainer is able to resist the temptation of adding features for their own sake rather than any great need.

So long as the APIs are stable, lots can happen in the code it talks to without any changes needed to the vsftpd code itself. Plenty of stuff goes far longer than a year without changes if it just works and nobody can find a flaw or come up with an improvement.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2016 05:20 AM (IdCqF)

813 My mother was complaining of being wide awake and I desperately needed to put in a session on the treadmill to make up for not making it to the gym today. (Anxiety left me incapable of doing anything much of the day.) So I put on Idiocracy for her. She fell asleep but what she saw I think horrified her more than any gore-fest I could have pulled up.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2016 05:22 AM (IdCqF)

814 I played Upright (string) Bass in High School.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 05:24 AM (q7aKL)

815 @Epobirs LOL!

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 05:25 AM (q7aKL)

816 I asked the First Violinist to the Prom!
Sveta Jovanovich was her name.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 05:29 AM (q7aKL)

817 @Epobirs
Do you medicate?
Lorazapam for me.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 05:33 AM (q7aKL)

818 Nice Russian girl, I remember "Star Trek" was on the TeeVee when I picked her up for the Prom.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 05:35 AM (q7aKL)

819 BS full of gas.....You remind me of my wife, talking to herself!

Are you afraid of the dark?

Lie down over here and tell me about yo mama.

Posted by: JT at July 21, 2016 05:37 AM (qG0hz)

820 Some pretty good free after rebate video game accessories at Newegg:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/h9gjcuc

I have the charger and media remote package for the Xbox One. Definitely worth having if you don't already have rechargeable batteries in your controller. The media remote is a lot less hassle that trying to remember the function mapping on the controller.

Some good sales items at Best Buy but I don't dare make even minor purchases right now with things so uncertain.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/grfb4mk

Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2016 05:41 AM (IdCqF)

821 LOL!
I love nightlights
I'll stand thanks,
But my momma was crazy.
I could go on.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 05:42 AM (q7aKL)

822 Mamas get that way as they get older...it's a kids thing.

I wonder if they ever did a study comparing the frequency of crazy mamas to crazy childless women?

Posted by: JT at July 21, 2016 05:47 AM (qG0hz)

823 #817

Currently, no. The various drugs for depression and anxiety never really made much difference in the past. If I had the finances to afford a pshrink I'd look into it again but my past experiences with what the County of Los Angeles offers did not make me eager to go back again. I'm very wary of drugs that are themselves addicting in such a way that you feel sick if you forget to take a dose, completely separate from what the drugs are supposed to treat.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2016 05:48 AM (IdCqF)

824 She worked for the Popo, Juvie Division.
She drove a Jaguar XKE convertible in the winter with no top! She parked under a tree...
It snowed, a lot LOL!

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 05:51 AM (q7aKL)

825 @Epobirs
Yeah, ya gotta keep taking them. My wife left for a vacation and left me with no lorazepam. after 6 days I was seeing kaleidoscopes!

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 05:54 AM (q7aKL)

826 Pshrinks are a joke in most cases. Had an uncle that was a shrink for about 25 years but quit because he said he still had the same patients after 25 years.

Cool gig though!

Posted by: JT at July 21, 2016 05:57 AM (qG0hz)

827 My son says he never knows what he's going to get with me...Earth Mother or the Bitch from Hell.

heheheh...Little does he know that's by design. Keeps him on his toes.

'Morning, horde.

Posted by: creeper at July 21, 2016 06:00 AM (RXE+v)

828 Good Morning Morons. Today is Thursday, July 21, 2016. On this day in 1865 in the market square of Springfield, Missouri, Wild Bill Hickok shot and killed Davis Tutt in what is thought to be the first western showdown and gunfight. Contrary to TV Westerns, these gunfights were actually rare. But due to scenes like the opening sequence of Gunsmoke and the myriad of movies about Tombstone, people all think they happened every week.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

829 Surprise Surprise


The Clinton crime syndicate has been lying all along about who is paying those exorbitant "speaking fees" they gather in at those different venues. And those financial disclosures are signed under oath and affirmation so this is even more felonies for each case. I have signed many different documents that specifically said that it must be signed under oath and affirmation with a warning that false statements could result in 40 years in prison. (how they get at that for perjury I do not know) But I guess that only applies if your name is not Clinton.


http://tinyurl.com/glkmy5u

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

830 Update on the Republican convention.


http://tinyurl.com/jzkvd3b

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

831 Cruz displays sour grapes and gets booed.


http://tinyurl.com/ztq3ecd

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

832 A Fire Chief in Riverside, CA ordered a flag dedicated to the police who were shot and killed in Baton Rouge pulled from a fire engine so as not to upset black agitators.


http://tinyurl.com/z36h49q

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

833 The Federal Immigration Court backlog has hit a major milestone. A backlog of 500,000+ cases. They blame the recent flood at the border. I blame Obama. If we had an opposition Party there would be no backlog, these illegal migrants would be expelled without court and only a brief hearing by a judge.


http://tinyurl.com/hgj6x3m

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

834
A federal judge has struck down a US seizure of a Manhattan skyscraper thought to be owed partially by Iran in a civil suit by the victims of terrorists supported by Iran. Do I smell the influence by the corrupt Obamanites here?


http://tinyurl.com/gr3xqfs

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

835 Yup, I had one who had just quit working for the VA.
She was very hostile to me because I was the same age as Vietnam Vets! I ditched her pronto!

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:02 AM (q7aKL)

836 Energy firm in MI to pay a $61M fine for an oil pipeline spill that polluted a river. They were not the EPA.


http://tinyurl.com/guooryp

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

837 47 years ago today the US landed people on the moon for the first time.


http://tinyurl.com/zbs7prv

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

838 Rupert Murdoch's contract negotiations with Ailes includes a non-compete clause to prevent him from raiding all those disgruntled co-anchors at Fox. (Note: Drudge link goes to FT pay wall. This one doesn't)


http://tinyurl.com/jx28ol9

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

839 Bacon, it's good for what ails you, even robbers. An 86 year old British woman fights off a robber with a pack of bacon in a supermarket.


http://tinyurl.com/jcqw2rt

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

840 Oh, Shit We're in a dump! Cheeze it!

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:03 AM (q7aKL)

841 Soros needs to update his "agitator" pay scale. One of this hired thugs at the Republican convention managed to set an American flag on fire, but also set himself and several others on fire and had to be saved by fire fighters. The quality of commie help these days has surely declined.


http://tinyurl.com/za588t5

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

842 MA AG takes a cue from Obama. Says she will ban AR-15s and Ak-47s using her pen and phone. Why? Because they are "ugly guns". Make no mistake, the liberals in this Democrat run hell would ban all guns if they thought they could get away with it and this is just one more action in the slow creep to ban all guns. I recommend that gun owners in MA if not able to flee to a better State to at least buy a gutta-percha cane with a silver handle.


http://tinyurl.com/gksyabt

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

843 Erdogen has assumed a three month state of dictatorship in Turkey.


http://tinyurl.com/jndpxzh

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

844 Vilsack also used a secret e-mail account and destroyed e-mails. He and Scankles would a make a great team of unindicted felons.


http://tinyurl.com/zb4yt7d

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

845 The State Department admits that it hid the Iran nuke loop-hole in that illegal Obama treaty.


http://tinyurl.com/hxb99od

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

846 The non-secret of the day. What is behind the skyrocketing cost of education in America's schools today? How about the skyrocketing increase in highly paid non-teaching staff. I know this is article is accurate. When I graduated from HS we had one school principal. Today the same HS has 5 and that is not the only staff added.


http://tinyurl.com/zk57e2h

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

847 Yes, the much abused Endangered Species Act should be vastly curtailed, or preferably repealed. When you have tyrants in office like Obama these kinds of crap laws are used to abuse taxpayers and people in their continued efforts to establish a communist dictatorship in the US.


http://tinyurl.com/hr83gyb

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

848 And the federal government is not the only ones who make stupid laws to benefit cronies who make "political contributions". 30% of all workers now need the government's permission to work.


http://tinyurl.com/hlfpt62

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:05 AM (mpXpK)

849 And speaking of the vast regulatory empire of government tyranny, OK's AG blames congress. I do too. The way it happens is the Democrats when they have the control enact tons of news laws which are turned into new regulations. When the Republicans come into power, they almost never get rid of any of them so the feds march on.


http://tinyurl.com/zzghxth

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:05 AM (mpXpK)

850 Beg Pardon Vic.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:05 AM (q7aKL)

851 The parents of the two year old boy who was killed by the alligator at Disney say they will not sue.


http://tinyurl.com/j3mz2g3

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:05 AM (mpXpK)

852 Ramirez


http://tinyurl.com/z6m4ss9


That's it for today folks.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:05 AM (mpXpK)

853 Is it over???

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:05 AM (q7aKL)

854 OK, back to the crazy moma stories, and drug problems. LOL!

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:07 AM (q7aKL)

855 So firefighters cannot homage to slain police for fear of reactions from the locals? The Civil War has started but we aren't allowed to say it out loud.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2016 06:09 AM (IdCqF)

856 You covered everything well, Vic. No good news in there, though. Think I'll go stick my head in this hole.

Posted by: Ostrich at July 21, 2016 06:09 AM (RXE+v)

857 Good Morning Everyone.

The Ailes stuff is starting to look like a Turkish Coup.

Planned by the supposed victims.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:10 AM (WVsWD)

858 OK, Serious now.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:10 AM (q7aKL)

859 You covered everything well, Vic. No good news in there, though. Think I'll go stick my head in this hole.


Posted by: Ostrich

Don't do that!! That's where the LIV Fire Ants live!!

Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2016 06:11 AM (8ikIW)

860 I am very, very nice now thanks to my fine upbringing.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:13 AM (q7aKL)

861 "No good news in there, though. "


Height of the summer driving season and gas here is under $2.


*thought I'd throw something out there*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:13 AM (Tw/PN)

862 I don't do swear words because of the coathangers.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:14 AM (q7aKL)

863 Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:13 AM (Tw/PN)

That's how you can tell the Economy is humming along nicely.

Cheap Gas!!

When demand is high, price is low!!

Right?

Wait. I think I got that backwards but I'm no krugman here.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:15 AM (WVsWD)

864 So I have a question for you. Is voting write-in tantamount to voting for Hillary?

It seems to me that if you vote for Hillary instead of Trump you have made a two-vote swing in the result...one less for Trump and one more for Hillary. If you vote write-in, Trump loses a vote but Hillary does not gain one.

No, I'm not voting write-in but I have a serious problem with people who are doing so being castigated as traitors.

What say you?

Posted by: creeper at July 21, 2016 06:15 AM (RXE+v)

865 Hey Tim, how does one pronounce "Illinois"?

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:17 AM (q7aKL)

866 "So I have a question for you. Is voting write-in tantamount to voting for Hillary?"





Yes.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:17 AM (Tw/PN)

867 Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:14 AM (q7aKL)

Ill-noize, is the best way.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:19 AM (WVsWD)

868 Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:17 AM (Tw/PN)

So where is your logic? I explained mine.

Posted by: creeper at July 21, 2016 06:19 AM (RXE+v)

869 I was in a band once, called "Catamount and the flying Jacanapes"

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:20 AM (q7aKL)

870 What say you?

Posted by: creeper at July 21, 2016 06:15 AM (RXE+v)


#NeverTrumpers writing in a candidate helps only the Dems. Writing in a candidate is tantamount to throwing one's vote away. When was the last time a third party/write in candidate won a presidential race?

Posted by: RickZ at July 21, 2016 06:20 AM (dI5fO)

871 If you don't want hillzebub or Trump, who do you want?

What is the likelihood of your preferred to win?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:21 AM (WVsWD)

872 How much chem would a chemtrail chem if a chemtrail could trail chem?

Posted by: AlixJones at July 21, 2016 06:21 AM (WlGX+)

873 @Tim
you're full of shit.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:21 AM (q7aKL)

874 "So where is your logic? I explained mine."


Any vote which could be for Trump, but then which is not due to a write-in, only weakens Trump and helps The Devil Incarnate.


He needs every vote he can get. We do too.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:22 AM (Tw/PN)

875 Yup, Trump or bust!

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:23 AM (q7aKL)

876 Okay. I've got it. You're supposed to support your party's nominee blindly. Thanks for explaining it.

The next time my party nominates a candidate who was born in a foreign country I'll just hold my nose and pull the lever for him.

That will happen right after hell freezes over.

Posted by: creeper at July 21, 2016 06:24 AM (RXE+v)

877 "Catamount and the flying Jacanapes"

Who opened for you and where did it happen.

OH!

What year?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:24 AM (WVsWD)

878
Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes. I have only two things to say this morning:

1. I am reminded of the line in the Kevin Costner movie Thirteen Days: "Did you ever see a man cut his own throat in public before?"

2. Fuck you, Ted Cruz. DIAF.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 21, 2016 06:24 AM (X6fMO)

879 Waitaminit. Bust? No way No How!

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:24 AM (q7aKL)

880 I pronounce it "Ill-Nwah"

Posted by: JharlesChonson at July 21, 2016 06:24 AM (WlGX+)

881 Voting for a write-in or its equivalent, not voting at all is not the same as voting for Scankles. It not only does not supply her with a vote, but it is highly dependent on what State you live in.


If you live in OH it makes it more probable that Scankles will win OH because that is a swing State that could influence the election. If you live in SC it most probably will have no impact at all.


The President is not elected by popular vote despite efforts to make it so.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:24 AM (mpXpK)

882 "Okay. I've got it. You're supposed to support your party's nominee blindly. "



No. I would not say that. But, we do have one Hell of a reckoning coming if Hillary gets elected and I don't want that.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:27 AM (Tw/PN)

883 Ok. I'm full of poo.

It's pronounced L-a-noy, Democrat Peoples Republic of.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:27 AM (WVsWD)

884 The next time my party nominates a candidate who was born in a foreign country I'll just hold my nose and pull the lever for him.

That will happen right after hell freezes over.

Posted by: creeper at July 21, 2016 06:24 AM (RXE+v)


No offense, but what does being born in a foreign country have to do with Trump?

This election we're choosing between Hillarity! and Trump. Not voting for Trump is voting for the unindicted felon from Chicago/Arkansas/NY/DC. It's as simple as that.

Posted by: RickZ at July 21, 2016 06:28 AM (dI5fO)

885 I saw Phil 'n the Blanks Opening for Catamount and the Flying Jacanapes at the Agora in Cleveland in '74

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:28 AM (q7aKL)

886 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes. I have only two things to say this morning:

1. I am reminded of the line in the Kevin Costner movie Thirteen Days: "Did you ever see a man cut his own throat in public before?"

2. Fuck you, Ted Cruz. DIAF.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 21, 2016 06:24 AM (X6fMO)

So you don't class Trump as someone who you "trust to defend our freedoms and be faithful to the Constitution" either, huh?



And this is the man that you want us to vote for?

Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 06:30 AM (9dfKD)

887 @885

Bullpoopie.

The Agora burnt down in 73 and was replaced by the Coliseum in 75.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:31 AM (WVsWD)

888 One thing about nevertrump that disturbs me is that so many leading nevertrumpers like Goldberg and French want to do away with the entire Republican primary system *because they didn't like the results of this one single primary.*

It comes off as nothing but butthurt crybabyism. Yeah, let's go to a 3-men in a smoke-filled room scenario and let them pick the nominee from now on. What could go wrong?

FFS, me and a whole lot of other folks are grudgingly pulling the lever for Trump just as we grudgingly pulled the lever for McCain and Romney. But none of us suggested blowing up the entire primary system because we didn't get our way in 08 or 2012.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at July 21, 2016 06:31 AM (WlGX+)

889 The Trump Wars.....

Resumed they have.....

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:32 AM (WVsWD)

890 "It's pronounced L-a-noy, Democrat Peoples Republic of."


As a non-Illinoisian I thought your pronunciation was correct. At least the way I always said it.


Now, "Missouri."

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:32 AM (Tw/PN)

891 And this is the man that you want us to vote for?

Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 06:30 AM (9dfKD)


So you're going with Hillarity!, huh? We have a stark choice (again) this election. We've hosen poorly over the last two presidential elections. Let's not make it a Trifecta.

Posted by: RickZ at July 21, 2016 06:33 AM (dI5fO)

892 842 MA AG takes a cue from Obama. Says she will ban AR-15s and Ak-47s using her pen and phone. Why? Because they are "ugly guns".

Man, I hope nobody shows her a Hi-Point carbine.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 21, 2016 06:33 AM (97XyN)

893 Mizz-ZWAH

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at July 21, 2016 06:33 AM (WlGX+)

894 Hoo-boy......

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:33 AM (Tw/PN)

895 Mizz ooh rah

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:34 AM (q7aKL)

896 And is it HARassment or harASSment?

Seriously. I live with the shame of never knowing which is right.



Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at July 21, 2016 06:35 AM (WlGX+)

897 >>>>So I have a question for you. Is voting write-in tantamount to voting for Hillary?

It
seems to me that if you vote for Hillary instead of Trump you have made
a two-vote swing in the result...one less for Trump and one more for
Hillary. If you vote write-in, Trump loses a vote but Hillary does not
gain one.

No, I'm not voting write-in but I have a serious problem with people who are doing so being castigated as traitors.

What say you?
.
.
.Yes, even more so in Ohio, Pennsylvania or Florida.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 21, 2016 06:36 AM (iONHu)

898 emphasis on the ASS

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:36 AM (q7aKL)

899 Misery?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at July 21, 2016 06:36 AM (WlGX+)

900 Is it aluminum or aliluminimynum like the Englishters say?

Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2016 06:36 AM (8ikIW)

901 Posted by: RickZ at July 21, 2016 06:28 AM (dI5fO)

My point was that there are legitimate reasons for a person to vote write-in. I could not have voted for Cruz, Rubio or Jindal because I believe them to be ineligible. There are people who have as deeply-held views on Trump. They won't vote for him but they won't vote for her, either. This is the best they can do, given their beliefs.

It's the intolerance that bothers me. Elections are hard on everyone, especially in the current cultural climate.


Posted by: creeper at July 21, 2016 06:37 AM (RXE+v)

902 So you're going with Hillarity!, huh? We have a
stark choice (again) this election. We've hosen poorly over the last
two presidential elections. Let's not make it a Trifecta.

Posted by: RickZ at July 21, 2016 06:33 AM (dI5fO)

Despite your (and other's) insistence that we are faced with a binary choice, we are not.

Personally, I will vote for neither Trump nor Hillary.

That was not the point I was making, though... I find it terribly interesting that Trump supporters also think that Cruz could not have possibly meant Trump when he urged support for Constitutionalist "upticket and down".

Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 06:37 AM (9dfKD)

903 Schedule

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:37 AM (q7aKL)

904 "Mizz ooh rah"




Yeah, but there's an "I" on the end of the word?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:37 AM (Tw/PN)

905 888 Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at July 21, 2016 06:31 AM (WlGX+)



I don't think it matters if we did away with the primary system for either Party. The system is rigged from top to bottom with the order of the primaries AND the so-called super delegates. Trump won in spite of the RNCe, Scankles won because the Democrat system is even more corrupt than the Republican one.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:38 AM (mpXpK)

906 "Is it aluminum or aliluminimynum like the Englishters say?"



I HATE that. As much as I love my boy Clarkson he always says that and it grates every time.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:39 AM (Tw/PN)

907 I HATE that. As much as I love my boy Clarkson he always says that and it grates every time.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill

I'm watching a Wheeler Dealers episode and Mike just had said it.

Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2016 06:40 AM (8ikIW)

908 Good morning Horde!

Donald Trump Jr. was just on Morning Joe.

Can we have him? His name is Donald Trump. That's the name of the guy who got the votes.

He talks smart and stuff.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 06:41 AM (1xUj/)

909 Now, "Missouri."

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:32 AM (Tw/PN)

Mizz-O-ree, Gloom and dispair and agoknee on mee!!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:41 AM (WVsWD)

910 Trump supporters will be responsible for Hillary being elected not us grassroots conservatives. Instead of brow beating and attacking us conservatives you should all be at some leftist type sight wooing Bernie supporters like your golden haired overlord has suggested. Gotta have your tariffs and protectionism. Don't forget to reassure your fellow bots not to worry about Trumps policies as they are merely "suggestions", so they're not set in stone.

Posted by: JROD at July 21, 2016 06:42 AM (wnwJC)

911 @904
Is that a question?

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:42 AM (q7aKL)

912 My point was that there are legitimate reasons for a person to vote write-in. I could not have voted for Cruz, Rubio or Jindal because I believe them to be ineligible. There are people who have as deeply-held views on Trump. They won't vote for him but they won't vote for her, either. This is the best they can do, given their beliefs.

It's the intolerance that bothers me. Elections are hard on everyone, especially in the current cultural climate.

Posted by: creeper at July 21, 2016 06:37 AM (RXE+v)


As far as I'm concerned, writing in a candidate is even worse than voting third party. Again, with the Democrat margin of fraud coming into play, not giving a vote to Trump is giving a vote to Hillarity!

As for good reasons for writing in a candidate, one of those reasons is not love of Country but a conceited attempt to show how 'independent' they are. They are all Pauline Kaels: 'I don't know anybody who voted for Nixon!'

Posted by: RickZ at July 21, 2016 06:43 AM (dI5fO)

913 "So I have a question for you. Is voting write-in tantamount to voting for Hillary?"

Yes but it doesn't end there. This is complicated so we will need complete silence while we study this.

1. A vote for Trump is a vote for Trump.
2. A vote for Hillary is a vote for Hillary.
3. A write in vote is a vote for Hillary.
4. A vote for Johnson is a vote for Hillary.
4. A vote for sander (if he runs independent) is a vote for Trump.

Class dismissed.

Posted by: Drider at July 21, 2016 06:43 AM (6Xbsz)

914 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:38 AM (mpXpK)

Agreed, the primary system needs changes (the Dems are clearly worse though.)

But that's not what they are proposing. They are proposing a purely republican remedy (the system, not the party.) Which means not fixing the system but doing away with it altogether.

The Z-Man's withering response helpfully has links to French and Goldberg's current columns:

http://thezman.com/wordpress/

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at July 21, 2016 06:43 AM (WlGX+)

915 Cruz was my very lukewarm first choice, but after last night's performance, I can't see supporting Cruz in any way. Nobody likes a weasel.

Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 06:43 AM (x2rNW)

916
So you don't class Trump as someone who you "trust to defend our freedoms and be faithful to the Constitution" either, huh?



And this is the man that you want us to vote for?



What I want is that a speaker on the penultimate night of the convention have the decency to put away his boo-boo binky and not give the treasonous, racist, murderous enemy party a ready-made soundbite. Is that too hard for you to understand, Slick?

Fuck this noise. I've got work to do.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 21, 2016 06:44 AM (X6fMO)

917 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 21, 2016 06:44 AM (hyuyC)

918 "Is that a question?"



Well, yeah, I guess it is. How do you ignore that dangling vowel? English language rules mush prevail.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:46 AM (Tw/PN)

919 Gotta go with MP4 on the Cruz love. Lack there of.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:47 AM (WVsWD)

920
"Wait a minute. What was that again? A sex change manual for the military?"

The US military has a fine tradition of giving the enemy sex changes.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 21, 2016 06:47 AM (QdAXQ)

921 @915
Hey!

Posted by: Weasel union #461 at July 21, 2016 06:47 AM (q7aKL)

922 English language rules mush prevail.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:46 AM (Tw/PN)


There are times when a typo makes just too much damned sense.

Posted by: RickZ at July 21, 2016 06:48 AM (dI5fO)

923 "Fuck this noise. I've got work to do."



Somebody's not holding back.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:48 AM (Tw/PN)

924 Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:46 AM (Tw/PN)

Didn't like my pronunciation of Mizzou?

I has a sadz.

See?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:48 AM (WVsWD)

925 Let's say Trump has an 70% chance of being an embarrassing president and a 30% chance of winning. That means he has a 21% chance of being an embarrassment to any past endorser. Let's say an endorsement of Trump becomes a political albatrosss, and there is a 50% chance of that, so 50% of 21%. So an endorser of Trump would be taking a 11% chance of finishing off his career. But lets say that there is a 50% chance of a non-endorsement is disqualifying. Then it's 50% vs. 11%. Cruz made the wrong bet, by a mile.

Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 06:49 AM (x2rNW)

926 Oh well, off to work. Was supposed to be working from home today but now I have to go to the office. Hello brutal commute.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at July 21, 2016 06:49 AM (WlGX+)

927 "English language rules mush prevail. "



GD it. And that is proper English.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:49 AM (Tw/PN)

928 >>>>I don't think it matters if we did away with the primary system for
either Party. The system is rigged from top to bottom with the order of
the primaries AND the so-called super delegates. Trump won in spite of
the RNCe, Scankles won because the Democrat system is even more corrupt
than the Republican one.
.
.
.I agree the Primary systems needs changed but in the middle of a Presidential Election cycle is not the time to change it. After the election they need to revamp the entire thing IMO.

And one of the big things the Republicans need to change is who goes first and what order follows. A rotating State schedule with actual Primaries and none of this Caucus bull$hit. Straight up closed vote primaries.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 21, 2016 06:49 AM (iONHu)

929
What I want is that a speaker on the penultimate night of the convention have the decency to put away his boo-boo binky and not give the treasonous, racist, murderous enemy party a ready-made soundbite. Is that too hard for you to understand, Slick?

Fuck this noise. I've got work to do.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 21, 2016 06:44 AM (X6fMO)

The only soundbite "the treasonous, racist, murderous enemy party" got was from Trumpkins booing Cruz (and then attacking his wife so she "had to be escorted out by security for her own safety".)


All Trump had to do was to claim the support offered by Cruz for any conservative by claiming the mantle of defender of rights and the Constitution.

Instead he explicitly rejected that mantle by explicitly stating that Cruz did not support him. That was not Cruz's put in.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 06:50 AM (9dfKD)

930 Morning all
Cruz was a dick last night

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 06:51 AM (zp+j1)

931 You will vote. And you will vote for The Donald.
If you don't you will regret it for the rest of your life.
And that's a Fact.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:51 AM (q7aKL)

932 By not honoring his pledge to support Republican nominee, Cruz is now and forever Lyin' Ted.

Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 06:51 AM (x2rNW)

933 And one of the big things the Republicans need to
change is who goes first and what order follows. A rotating State
schedule with actual Primaries and none of this Caucus bull$hit.
Straight up closed vote primaries.




Posted by: The Great White Scotsman

And start with primaries in Repub leaning states.

Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2016 06:51 AM (8ikIW)

934 "Didn't like my pronunciation of Mizzou?

I has a sadz.

See? "





Ah, just a rhetorical discussion. Do what you do.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:51 AM (Tw/PN)

935 Cruz did himself no favors last night and probably harmed himself immeasurably.

Bottom line is he signed a pledge to supprt the nominee.

Trump gave him a pretty plumb speaking spot

And his little stunt took all of the attention off of the main speaker of the evening, Mike Pence, and made Cruz the story everyone is talking about.

Pretty dissapointed in Cruz.

And it was so uneccesary.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 21, 2016 06:52 AM (3Xxpy)

936 Argle-bargle! etc.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:52 AM (q7aKL)

937 I can't fault anyone not voting for Trump.

I have no plans on vote for alleged conservatives mark kirk or darrin "prince" lahood.

Both of them are going to vote the way the proggies tell them to anyway.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:53 AM (WVsWD)

938 "Morning all
Cruz was a dick last night"


*sighs*



Yeah.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:53 AM (Tw/PN)

939 Yup I was a Cruzer, I am now a Donalder.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:54 AM (q7aKL)

940 "Argle-bargle! etc."



Good point.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:54 AM (Tw/PN)

941 "The system is rigged from top to bottom..." Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:38 AM (mpXpK)

This is why I can't get too bent out of shape about people voting write-in. I used to think my vote mattered. After the last two elections I realize that it does not.

Posted by: creeper at July 21, 2016 06:55 AM (RXE+v)

942 By not honoring his pledge to support Republican nominee, Cruz is now and forever Lyin' Ted.

Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 06:51 AM (x2rNW)

Sigh... Cruz supported anyone who was willing to defend our rights and the Constitution. Anyone else is undeserving of support. I find it sad that Trump chose not to accept the responsibility that came with the support Cruz offered.

It is sadder still that you and others are still spouting Trump's primary season lies.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 06:55 AM (9dfKD)

943 And it was so uneccesary.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 21, 2016 06:52 AM (3Xxpy)

2020! 2020!! 2020!!!

Last nights speech pretty much cemented the notion that Cruz is okay with a hillzebub presidency.

Live with it Cruz supporters.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:55 AM (WVsWD)

944 @930 Nevergiveup-No he wasn't. It was an excellent upbeat speech. It did give some measure of satisfaction watching the reaction of Chris Christie(RINO) and Peter King(RINO), you know, the establishment hacks you Trump supporters railed against. The look on their faces was truly priceless.

Posted by: JROD at July 21, 2016 06:55 AM (wnwJC)

945 928 Straight up closed vote primaries.




Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 21, 2016 06:49 AM (iONHu)

The status of primaries, open or closed, is dependent on the State, not the parties. The Republicans here have sued multiple times and have lost in court each time because the primary is set by State law (passed when the Democrats had total control).

The courts have maintained that since the State provides resources they have a say in how it is conducted. I have no idea why the Republicans have not repealed that law and made it a closed primary now that they hold all three offices in SC.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:55 AM (mpXpK)

946 Missouri is one of those places that say oh you have to pronounce it this way, and then if you try to they say no that way, and if you get even close they say no the other way.

It's only places with extreme inferiority complexes and Daddy Issues that act like that.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 06:55 AM (1xUj/)

947 I have no plans on vote for alleged conservatives mark kirk or darrin "prince" lahood.



Both of them are going to vote the way the proggies tell them to anyway.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois.

Yeah, Kirk is a real disappointment.


Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2016 06:56 AM (8ikIW)

948 Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 06:55 AM (9dfKD)

So your supporting The FAB?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 06:56 AM (zp+j1)

949 Cruz didn't sign that pledge to support the eventual (R) nominee?

Did he sign a conditional one that others didn't sign?

Help me out with some knowledge here.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:57 AM (WVsWD)

950 If Trump loses (as is likely) he will be the great "cudda bin" of some significant fraction of conservative voters. Any candidate will want to invoke Trump and what Trump represented. But Cruz has permanently alienated those voters. He has no future, any Cruz primary opponent will run as a Trumpist against Cruz. Remember that Trump won 27% of Texas.

Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 06:57 AM (x2rNW)

951 What's funny about Cruz' speech last night is that Trump says he saw it two hours before Cruz delivered it and allowed it to proceed.

Posted by: creeper at July 21, 2016 06:57 AM (RXE+v)

952 "I find it sad that Trump chose not to accept the responsibility that came with the support Cruz offered."



You've got that 180 degrees turned around and exactly backwards. I've never seen logic like that.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:58 AM (Tw/PN)

953 "Lyin Ted Cruz is lying to you just like he lied to Trump and the rest of the Republican party" - future Cruz primary opponent

Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 06:59 AM (x2rNW)

954 @943 Tim in Illinois-Try to get this through your head. Trump said, his f'ing words, that he did not need conservatives votes, he can win without them and did not need Cruz endorsement. So quit your pissing and moaning. He's your problem, not ours.

Posted by: JROD at July 21, 2016 06:59 AM (wnwJC)

955 Whatever Cruz's intentions which could only be known to him, he came across to those delegates and most Americans watching as a less than gracious loser. His die hard supporters are twisting themselves into intellectual pretzels trying to justify it but most people look at it and say, you lost, move on and if you cannot endorse do what Kasich and Romney and Bush are doing and stay away from someone else's celebration party.

Posted by: IC at July 21, 2016 06:59 AM (g26j/)

956 "We could've won in 2016 if it weren't for Lyin Ted Cruz"

Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:00 AM (x2rNW)

957 Cruz/Nader 2020

Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:00 AM (x2rNW)

958 What's funny about Cruz' speech last night is that
Trump says he saw it two hours before Cruz delivered it and allowed it
to proceed.


Posted by: creeper at July 21, 2016 06:57 AM (RXE+v)

Yeah, no. I do not know if Trump saw Cruz's speech or not. I do know it wasn't within his power to "allow it" or not. Cruz had enough states to have his name entered into nomination which means Trump could not stop him from speaking.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 07:00 AM (9dfKD)

959 BOTTOM LINE:

Cruz was clearly appealing to the delegate rebels with the conscience line.

And Clinton used it against both Cruz and Trump.

Clintons tweet confirms that Cruzs non-endorsement is going to be used by Democrats to hurt the Republican ticket of Trump-Pence.

Chris Christie blasted Cruz as selfish because the crowd was waiting for him to do the right thing.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:00 AM (zp+j1)

960 Whatever Cruz's intentions which could only be known to him, he came
across to those delegates and most Americans watching as a less than
gracious loser.


=====


I don't believe this is true but, even if it were, its only fair since Trump is an incredible sore and obnoxious winner.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 07:02 AM (9dfKD)

961 "What's funny about Cruz' speech last night is that Trump says he saw it two hours before Cruz delivered it and allowed it to proceed. "



Does that not say something? Somebody is bigger than someone else. No names mentioned.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 07:02 AM (Tw/PN)

962 This is something like the 6th "most important election of my lifetime" in a row. Do they ever end? Does the march leftward ever end?

No. No.

My Barony will need some good Men and Women. Even if you have no skills but are willing to learn. Those with skills will probably get a Knighthood when you swear Allegiance to Freiherr von dem Fluss und Bauernhof.

That would be me.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 07:03 AM (WVsWD)

963 I love how the #NeverTrumpers are so certain that Trump will violate the constitution. Hello, Hillary is running on explicitly legislating from the Oval Office on immigration. Trump is running on enforcing laws. Other than that, we don't really know how or what Trump would do in officers. The #NeverTrumpers are mostly neocons who are mostly against Trump because he won't back off attacking their Iraq war.

Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:04 AM (x2rNW)

964 The status of primaries, open or closed, is
dependent on the State, not the parties. The Republicans here have sued
multiple times and have lost in court each time because the primary is
set by State law (passed when the Democrats had total control).

The
courts have maintained that since the State provides resources they
have a say in how it is conducted. I have no idea why the Republicans
have not repealed that law and made it a closed primary now that they
hold all three offices in SC.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:55 AM (mpXpK)

In states with no party affiliation, parties can ensure that the other party does not choose their candidate by having a convention instead of a primary.


Bonus? Taxpayers don't pay for conventions.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 07:05 AM (9dfKD)

965 You need a good heretic flenser?

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 07:05 AM (q7aKL)

966 There are only 2 choices in November. This is not some ivy league masturbation, if you want that go to harvard or yale. If your not part of the solution, your part of the problem

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:05 AM (zp+j1)

967 Chris Christie blasted Cruz as selfish because the crowd was waiting for him to do the right thing.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:00 AM (zp+j1)

2020!
2020!!
20202!!!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 07:05 AM (WVsWD)

968 2020?
Fuck that noise I'll be dead.

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 07:06 AM (q7aKL)

969 The #NeverTrumpers are mostly neocons who are mostly against Trump because he won't back off attacking their Iraq war.
Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:04 AM (x2rNW)

That's not true. Stop muddying the waters with irrelevant terms like "neocons".

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:06 AM (zp+j1)

970 960, I know you would say that but if that were true, Cruz wouldn't get a speaking spot at all. Remember he did not pursue it based on his delegate count or anything, he was offered. And I still say, if you don't want to endorse that is fine, but stay away. Have your own thing going on, do not come across looking like a tone dead boor.

Posted by: IC at July 21, 2016 07:06 AM (KTFfX)

971 The fact is that Trump is not organized enough to undermine the constitution.

Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:06 AM (x2rNW)

972 Opps

"20202!!!"

Maybe Ted plans on sticking around for awhile.

Either that or by the time 20202 rolls around, An amendment will be passed to allow Zombies to run for POTUS.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 07:06 AM (WVsWD)

973 Tone deaf, not tone dead. Sheeh

Posted by: IC at July 21, 2016 07:07 AM (KTFfX)

974 964 In states with no party affiliation, parties can
ensure that the other party does not choose their candidate by having a
convention instead of a primary.


Bonus? Taxpayers don't pay for conventions.


Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 07:05 AM (9dfKD)

Not if State law says you will hold an open primary.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 07:07 AM (mpXpK)

975 Meh, I gave Cruz money because he seemed like he was a conservative.
Now he seems like a childish idiot that can't put the past behind him.
He disappoints me.

Posted by: Gmac- All politics in this country now is just dress rehearsal for civil war. at July 21, 2016 07:08 AM (4pjhs)

976 @Nevergiveup
Never Give Up.
#Neverhillary

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 07:08 AM (q7aKL)

977 "Proper" bacon has less fat than American bacon.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 21, 2016 07:08 AM (4+VII)

978 It just shows Trump supporters are birds of a feather. Petulant and whiney (remember his leftist like crying even while leading in the primaries). Stompy feet because Cruz didn't bend over and kiss Trumps Hillary and Mitch McConnell supporting ass.

Posted by: JROD at July 21, 2016 07:08 AM (wnwJC)

979 If Trump said "Max Boot will be my secretary of state" I'm pretty sure Kristol, Goldberg, and Boot would fall in line.

Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:08 AM (x2rNW)

980
Clintons tweet confirms that Cruzs non-endorsement is going to be used by Democrats to hurt the Republican ticket of Trump-Pence.


Precisely.

If Ted felt so ass-raped by the "Lyin' Ted" smear and the primary battles, he could have pulled a !Jeb and simply not shown up at all. Or he could have spoken honestly to the delegates, admitted that he felt Trump was way out of line, but that politics ain't beanbag and what Trump said was a gentle ribbing compared to what the Bitch of Benghazi and her feces-flinging MFM monkeys would have to say.

But he decided that a national audience was the perfect place to spit in Trump's face and pull a "you won't have Ted Cruz to kick around any more" routine, while - as pointed out - giving the Dems a ready-made appeal to the GOPe and their bum-kissers: "see! Even your own party's conservatives can't stand Trump! Aren't you ashamed to support that weasel-haired, short-fingered vulgar carny barker?"

Let's put it this way - if Cruz pouts like this because Trump called him "Lyin' Ted," how on earth would he have handled the Democrats smearing him as Hitler reborn?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 21, 2016 07:09 AM (X6fMO)

981 Supporting the party is kissing your own ass.

Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:09 AM (x2rNW)

982 "There are only 2 choices in November. This is not some ivy league masturbation, if you want that go to harvard or yale. If your not part of the solution, your part of the problem"



Hell, I had a hard enough time getting into junior college.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 07:09 AM (Tw/PN)

983 Posted by: JROD at July 21, 2016 07:08 AM (wnwJC)

So your supporting The FAB?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:09 AM (zp+j1)

984 966
There are only 2 choices in November. This is not some ivy league
masturbation, if you want that go to harvard or yale. If your not part
of the solution, your part of the problem

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:05 AM (zp+j1)

No it is not. See #881. It is 50 different elections involving multiple candidates. Most of which will have pre-ordained results.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 07:10 AM (mpXpK)

985 And people are still talking about Cruz's speech.

I guess i'll come back later when perhaps they might be talking about what Trump needs to do tonight. The NY Post writer, Michael Goodwin, set the bar pretty high.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2016 07:10 AM (bpZlE)

986 JROD = Petulant and Whiney

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 07:10 AM (q7aKL)

987 Lyin Ted Cruz just showed why he is universally despised by all who know him.

Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:10 AM (x2rNW)

988 960, I know you would say that but if that were
true, Cruz wouldn't get a speaking spot at all. Remember he did not
pursue it based on his delegate count or anything, he was offered. And I
still say, if you don't want to endorse that is fine, but stay away.
Have your own thing going on, do not come across looking like a tone
dead boor.

Posted by: IC at July 21, 2016 07:06 AM (KTFfX)

Whatever the spin given, Trump could not stop Cruz from speaking and Cruz speaking was not dependent on any offer from Trump. Cruz gave a very upbeat speech that urged support for any constitutional conservative.

Trump could have very easily (if not very believably) claimed that support by claiming Cruz was speaking of him too. He didn't.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 07:11 AM (9dfKD)

989 Hell, I had a hard enough time getting into junior college.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 07:09 AM (Tw/PN)

but I bet you got a much better bang for your buck and are better grounded for the experience

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:11 AM (zp+j1)

990 "Supporting the party is kissing your own ass."



Well, that's part of it. Trump is not the GOP. He's an insurgent. A successful one.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 07:12 AM (Tw/PN)

991 "Proper" bacon has less fat than American bacon.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 21, 2016 07:08 AM (4+VII)


What's the point of that? There'd be no bacon fat to store in the fridge for later use! For someone who grew up south of Mason and Dixon's line, that is the end of the world, an Armageddon of nightmares.

Posted by: RickZ at July 21, 2016 07:13 AM (dI5fO)

992 For someone who grew up south of Mason and Dixon's line

Now that I drive from NJ to Portsmouth VA all the time, it is really amazing how far North the Mason Dixon line is.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:14 AM (zp+j1)

993 "but I bet you got a much better bang for your buck and are better grounded for the experience"



Launching myself out into the business world was more education than any college could ever provide me. Have a work ethic. Show up on time. Do the job prescribed. Have some initiative. Make a decision every once in a while.


You'll be fine.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 07:15 AM (Tw/PN)

994 Not if State law says you will hold an open primary.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 07:07 AM (mpXpK)

States can't do that. They can say that they have no way of keeping non-party members from voting if parties choose a primary but SCOTUS decisions support each party's right to set their own internal rules and mechanisms for choosing candidates.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 07:15 AM (9dfKD)

995
Anyway, Fenelon has the right idea. All this Cruz talk is angrying up my blood. I really must go away for a while.

In the meantime, here's a picture of Lucille Ball, back in her days as a young blonde starlet with Columbia Studios:

http://goo.gl/ucJl6K

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 21, 2016 07:16 AM (X6fMO)

996 I gotta go to bed.
JROD, Pineapple etc.
Nevergiveup, Never Give Up
Tim in Illinois, Keep on keepin on.
Ricardo Kill, Be yourself
The rest of you,

Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 07:16 AM (q7aKL)

997 Brit Hume: "Why do so many in Washington have an instant dislike of Ted Cruz?"

Brit Hume: "It saves time."

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 21, 2016 07:18 AM (4+VII)

998 Vic, thanks.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 21, 2016 07:19 AM (hyuyC)

999 If Ted felt so ass-raped by the "Lyin' Ted" smear
and the primary battles, he could have pulled a !Jeb and simply not
shown up at all. Or he could have spoken honestly to the delegates,
admitted that he felt Trump was way out of line, but that politics ain't
beanbag and what Trump said was a gentle ribbing compared to what the
Bitch of Benghazi and her feces-flinging MFM monkeys would have to say.

But
he decided that a national audience was the perfect place to spit in
Trump's face and pull a "you won't have Ted Cruz to kick around any
more" routine, while - as pointed out - giving the Dems a ready-made
appeal to the GOPe and their bum-kissers: "see! Even your own party's
conservatives can't stand Trump! Aren't you ashamed to support that
weasel-haired, short-fingered vulgar carny barker?"

Let's put
it this way - if Cruz pouts like this because Trump called him "Lyin'
Ted," how on earth would he have handled the Democrats smearing him as
Hitler reborn?


Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 21, 2016 07:09 AM (X6fMO)

Cruz did not pout. He graciously congratulated Trump and then talked about things that are important to conservatives. It is soooo not his responsibility that Trump and his supporters at the convention are uncivil assholes who booed Ted then "attacked" his wife (the press's word not mine).

Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 07:19 AM (9dfKD)

1000 @990 Ricardo Kill-Absolutely an insurgent and successful, no doubt about it. Funny he's surrounded by nothing but the GOPe, former winning strategists from the Dole 96 era and people from the Ford campaign. Oh, Trump will blend in with the GOPe just fine. Sure would like to bet a substantial amount of money with you on that. Trump=GOPe

Posted by: JROD at July 21, 2016 07:20 AM (wnwJC)

1001 Little Marco is a GIANT compared to cruz

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:20 AM (zp+j1)

1002 Some people are always fighting the last war

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:21 AM (zp+j1)

1003 I was inferring that because the proper bacon has more meat, it's a better bludgeon.

Sheesh. Touchy.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 21, 2016 07:22 AM (4+VII)

1004 Since my questions were not answered I guess I'll just have to go with,

1. Yes. Cruz signed the same pledge as the other guys.
2. There were no conditions on it.

The pledge stated that they would support the eventual nominee with no conditions attached.

So now Trump has to meet Ted's conditions for support.

I think I know why Trump had no problems with this speech. Ted will probably not get as much support in 2020 as he did this time around. He sorta kneecap his competition in advance.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 07:22 AM (WVsWD)

1005 Good morning everyone! Well, I had a friend over last night and we talked about a lot of things and politics didn't come up once. It was...refreshing. The only thing I saw of the convention last night was about 10 seconds of the snuffleupagass and his band of minions talking over Newt. It seems to be the new tactic.

The MSM is terrified of the thought that Republicans might actually fight back and call them out.

Posted by: CrothetyOldJarhead at July 21, 2016 07:22 AM (DIhU5)

1006 Who is this JROD tool? New troll?


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 21, 2016 07:22 AM (4+VII)

1007 Who is this JROD tool? New troll?


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 21, 2016 07:22 AM (4+VII)


he is not new...comes around every now and then

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:24 AM (zp+j1)

1008 994 States can't do that. They can say that they have no
way of keeping non-party members from voting if parties choose a
primary but SCOTUS decisions support each party's right to set their own
internal rules and mechanisms for choosing candidates.


Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 07:15 AM (9dfKD)

I have never seen a SCOTUS ruling regarding holding of primaries. I have seen this State's court decision reflecting how primaries will be held.
So there is at least one State whose court does not agree with you.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 07:24 AM (mpXpK)

1009 "Little Marco is a GIANT compared to cruz"



On fire.....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 07:24 AM (Tw/PN)

1010 Cruz did not pout. He graciously congratulated Trump and then talked about things that are important to conservatives.





And you want to talk about Trump supporters being in denial and moving goalposts.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 21, 2016 07:26 AM (3C84c)

1011 No, J is not new and I won't hold anything against him.



Poster who's made his manners.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 07:27 AM (Tw/PN)

1012

[saunters in, hands in pockets, casual like]

[whistling Dixie]

[nods in a friendly manner]

[stops whistling. Starts Humming Battle Hymn of the Republic]

[Casually stolls on by]

Posted by: Henri at July 21, 2016 07:28 AM (aC1io)

1013 Anybody watch the Profit, with Marcus Lemonis? Marco is the nice guy who won't fire all the clueless losers who work for him. Marcus has to go in there and shake things up. Trump is Lemonis.

Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:28 AM (x2rNW)

1014 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 21, 2016 07:28 AM (ZQfW9)

1015 Breaking: IOC has banned the entire Russian track and field team from the RIO Olympics.


http://tinyurl.com/jdu75oh

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 07:29 AM (mpXpK)

1016 837 47 years ago today the US landed people on the moon for the first time.


http://tinyurl.com/zbs7prv
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party



I watched this, sort of. I have no memory of it. I was 3 months old. My sister remembers it, she was 5. My Mom told her to watch, it was History. Mom was just holding me I guess. At 3 months old, its pretty much eat, sleep, poop. I've seen video of it.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 21, 2016 07:29 AM (2EbTQ)

1017 {follows Henri}

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 21, 2016 07:29 AM (Mt8T4)

1018 @1006 Grampa Jimbo-I am a super swell, ruggedly handsome dude who use to enjoy your opinions over at the Blackfive if you're the same person. That's the "troll" I am.

Posted by: JROD at July 21, 2016 07:29 AM (wnwJC)

1019 And you want to talk about Trump supporters being in denial and moving goalposts.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 21, 2016 07:26 AM (3C84c)

Bingo. LOL

And since when did the phrase "Trump Supporter" become a bad thing? Because in my book, at his point and time right thru to November, your either a Trump Supporter or the enemy. There is NO middle ground to me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:29 AM (zp+j1)

1020 "Hlllary should be tried by a jury of her peers - Eva Peron, Imelda Marcos, Christina Kirchner . . . "

Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:29 AM (x2rNW)

1021 I don't know. It just does not have the appeal it used to.



Bummer. My wife hung that moniker on me. While she was laughing at me.

Posted by: Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 21, 2016 07:29 AM (WVsWD)

1022 I watched this, sort of. I have no memory of it. I was 3 months old. My sister remembers it, she was 5. My Mom told her to watch, it was History. Mom was just holding me I guess. At 3 months old, its pretty much eat, sleep, poop. I've seen video of it.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 21, 2016 07:29 AM (2EbTQ)

youngin

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:30 AM (zp+j1)

1023 "[Casually strolls on by] "


Not so fast.


Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 07:30 AM (Tw/PN)

1024 1016 I watched this, sort of. I have no memory of it. I
was 3 months old. My sister remembers it, she was 5. My Mom told her to
watch, it was History. Mom was just holding me I guess. At 3 months old,
its pretty much eat, sleep, poop. I've seen video of it.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 21, 2016 07:29 AM (2EbTQ)

I was in a car going back home from Atlanta and remember hearing it on the radio.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 07:31 AM (mpXpK)

1025 Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:29 AM (x2rNW)

Eva Braun



Dont forget me. Please

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 07:31 AM (WVsWD)

1026 A Navy veteran from Colorado who does not identify as male or female is pushing the U.S. government to allow for a third gender option or get rid of gender designators altogether on passports, highlighting the argument that forms on the state and federal level have been slow to include other identities even as gender becomes less defined.

A federal judge considering a legal challenge brought by Dana Zzyym urged the State Department on Wednesday to settle the case in a way that allows Zzyym to get a passport without having to lie about being a man or a woman. Zzyym, who was born with ambiguous sexual characteristics, was raised as a boy and later identified as intersex.

The gender on Zzyyms birth certificate originally was left blank although the document was later amended to say unknown. Zzyym, who lives in Fort Collins, served in the Navy as a man before identifying as intersex while working and studying at Colorado State University.

Sigh...I wonder where he showered in The Navy?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:32 AM (zp+j1)

1027 [saunters in, hands in pockets, casual like]

[whistling Dixie]

[nods in a friendly manner]

[stops whistling. Starts Humming Battle Hymn of the Republic]

[Casually stolls on by]
Posted by: Henri




*shoots Henri in the knee*


What? He looked suspicious. Look at him looking all suspicious.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 07:33 AM (1xUj/)

1028 Eva Braun never ran for office, so . ..

Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:34 AM (x2rNW)

1029 I like this place. 47 is considered young here. Heh!

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 21, 2016 07:35 AM (2EbTQ)

1030 "Eva Braun never ran for office, so . .."

She didn't have to. If she wanted something, all she had to do was tell her sugar daddy. He would steal it for her.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 07:36 AM (WVsWD)

1031 "What? He looked suspicious. Look at him looking all suspicious."



I know, right?


*rifles through pockets.*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 07:36 AM (Tw/PN)

1032 Cruz should have said something like "Trump is the best prepared, most informed, most judicious and prudent candidate for president" and just be so over the top that people are like, yeah, that's not Trump. Not even close. Cruz is goofing.

Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:36 AM (x2rNW)

1033 47 years ago today the US landed people on the moon for the first time.



I was 6 & 1/2. Wow.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 21, 2016 07:37 AM (3C84c)

1034 Well, I did my best to change the subject last night, multiple times.

Good morning, Horde.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2016 07:37 AM (sdi6R)

1035 "Eva Braun never ran for office, so . .."

She didn't have to. If she wanted something, all she had to do was tell her sugar daddy. He would steal it for her.




"Daddy, can I have Poland?"

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 21, 2016 07:38 AM (3C84c)

1036

Potential terror attack in Australia stopped.

Sounds like police were target.

a blip on fox news

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 21, 2016 07:40 AM (qCMvj)

1037 the mirror uk has it

Sydney police station 'terror attack': Man 'drives car filled with gas cylinders into underground car park'

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 21, 2016 07:42 AM (qCMvj)

1038 I did not scroll through all 1029 posts. I did not watch the convention last night. I heard that the black pastor brought down the house. I also heard that Scott Walker said all the right things but had no charisma. Two very predictable occurrences. I have never heard a black pastor who can't get the people on their feet. Also, I have never heard Scott Walker speak without lulling people into a nice warm nap.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 21, 2016 07:42 AM (dFi94)

1039 heh

The suspected attacker was arrested inside the car park after reportedly setting himself on fire.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 21, 2016 07:42 AM (qCMvj)

1040 Butthurt Thursday

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at July 21, 2016 07:43 AM (dBmVV)

1041 Also, I have never heard Scott Walker speak without lulling people into a nice warm nap.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 21, 2016 07:42 AM (dFi94)

I thought he was pretty good. So he is no fireball. He seemed genuine and made sense. I was very impressed with him, not only last night but over the last few weeks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:44 AM (zp+j1)

1042
"Good Rainy Day Morning. This is your causal strolling reporter Henri reporting from the streets of Cleveland where this reporter was mugged by reality.

Left over mobs of GOP delegates, still puncy from the racus chaos of the previous nights dominance testing, brutally shot me in the knee with some unknown weapon by some unseen assailent. All I could tell investiagors was, 'It hurt like hell.'

[cue video of reporter limping toward ambulance]

Posted by: Henri at July 21, 2016 07:44 AM (aC1io)

1043 Have a good day horde. I'm off too bed. Remember, no matter how bad it seems, it can always get worse!

:-)

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 21, 2016 07:45 AM (2EbTQ)

1044 Potential terror attack in Australia stopped.

Sounds like police were target.

a blip on fox news
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 21, 2016 07:40 AM (qCMvj)


Sigh, yup...the attack in Nice is already yesterday's news and no mention of it...certainly no mention of islam with it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:45 AM (zp+j1)

1045 "The suspected attacker was arrested inside th"e car park after reportedly setting himself on fire."


Pretty shitty terrorist.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 07:45 AM (Tw/PN)

1046 Go figure, banzai would be the one defending this pos, look around banzai, you're about the only member left in the Cruz fan club.

Posted by: WeBoned! at July 21, 2016 07:46 AM (SOVQ8)

1047 Dump up

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 21, 2016 07:46 AM (3C84c)

1048 I thought he was pretty good. So he is no fireball.
He seemed genuine and made sense. I was very impressed with him, not
only last night but over the last few weeks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:44 AM (zp+j1)
================================================

Oh, don't get me wrong - I adore Scott Walker. I've met him three times and hugged him twice. I have pictures of him holding my grandchildren. He went over to Kosovo (or was it Iraq? Can't remember and shared a meal with my son. He says what he means and means what he says. He's a conservative who gets things done. Just in a nice, bland, Midwestern potluck kind of way. This is why I predicted he would never make it out of the primaries. Too nice.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 21, 2016 07:48 AM (dFi94)

1049 1033 47 years ago today the US landed people on the moon for the first time.



I was 6 & 1/2. Wow.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 21, 2016 07:37 AM (3C84c)

...............

I still had a couple months of baking yet to do. On another note I didn't watch one second of the convention last night, Looks like that's a good thing.

Posted by: Molly k. at July 21, 2016 07:48 AM (F7MEq)

1050 I'm above the fray.

So there.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 21, 2016 07:48 AM (97XyN)

1051 dump

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 07:49 AM (mpXpK)

1052 >>>>By not honoring his pledge to support Republican nominee, Cruz is now and forever Lyin' Ted.

Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 06:51 AM (x2rNW)

Sigh... Cruz supported anyone who was willing to defend our rights and the Constitution. Anyone else is undeserving of support. I find it sad that Trump chose not to accept the responsibility that came with the support Cruz offered.

It is sadder still that you and others are still spouting Trump's primary season lies.
.
.
.Then Cruz should not have signed the pledge. A man's word is his bond and Cruz was not forced to sign that pledge.

He broke his word and he will suffer the consequences for that.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 21, 2016 07:49 AM (iONHu)

1053 " Have a good day horde. I'm off too bed. Remember, no matter how bad it seems, it can always get worse!

:-)"




I like this.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 07:49 AM (Tw/PN)

1054 @846-"When I graduated from HS we had one school principal. Today the same HS has 5 and that is not the only staff added."-Vic

You are so right, Vic. Every year they start with the poor teachers need a raise drum beat. And maybe some do. So the voters pass a pay raise. Then you find out most of the raise is going to administration! Teachers who get tired of teaching, but don't want to retire just yet, get some strings pulled and go into administration. Voters fooled again.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at July 21, 2016 07:52 AM (SXa8W)

1055 JROD,

You are like Jonah Goldberg in that it is more important to you to keep your "conservative values" and thereby let Hillary win than to support Trump.

I am sick of this shit. "Perfect" is the enemy of "good enough."


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 21, 2016 07:59 AM (4+VII)

1056 I have never seen a SCOTUS ruling regarding holding
of primaries. I have seen this State's court decision reflecting how
primaries will be held.
So there is at least one State whose court does not agree with you.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 07:24 AM (mpXpK)

I looked up the SCOTUS decisions a while back but will leave that research to you. Yes, IF parties choose a primary, the state has some control over how it is held but states cannot force parties to hold primaries (rather than internally held and paid for methods of choosing candidates).

Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 08:13 AM (9dfKD)

1057 I am sick of this shit. "Perfect" is the enemy of "good enough."




Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 21, 2016 07:59 AM (4+VII)

Our estimation of whether Trump is "good enough" or even "all that different from Hillary" is obviously different than yours.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 08:15 AM (9dfKD)

1058 .Then Cruz should not have signed the pledge. A man's word is his bond and Cruz was not forced to sign that pledge.



He broke his word and he will suffer the consequences for that.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 21, 2016 07:49 AM (iONHu)

I would hate to see you talk to an abused spouse:
"Yes, I know he beat you but you promised til death do you part! OATHBREAKER!?!"

Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 08:17 AM (9dfKD)

1059 I find it fascinating that Trump was aware of what Cruz was going to say and let him go ahead and say it. That's kind of cool, in a way.

Or if Cruz said, here's my speech, except I'm still not sure I can endorse you at the end of it, and Trump thought there was no way Cruz wouldn't buckle in the heat of the moment.

Or did Trump know about the non-endorsement and want to get his supporters all foam-flecked and spittle-flying before his big appearance tonight?

Or was he viewing it as "look, even this guy who hates me hates Cankles more"? Enemy of my enemy, etc.

Or was he just amused, because that would be the end of any "gee, if only Cruz had won" lookbacks.

Or, best scenario, was this speech the first of a one, two punch, with Trump delivering the knock-out tonight?

"Hey, *TED CRUZ*, I *AM* THE CONSTITUTIONAL CHOICE! I *AM* THE LAW AND ORDER CANDIDATE!" Crowd, primed for this moment, goes absolutely fucking nuts. Clip played over and over again in the Cruz-hatin' media.

Or....Ted Cruz was being a dick. I mean, I still like him (holds up bullet-proof shield), but that's his rep. If he uses his dickishness for good, then I'm okay with it. But this was not the time. I'm not thrilled that I have to vote for Trump, either, but the choice is clear, now.

Posted by: Gem at July 21, 2016 08:17 AM (uaHyk)

1060 Trump let Ted implode. He gave Cruz the rope and he hung himself.

Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 08:20 AM (x2rNW)

1061 " Trump let Ted implode. He gave Cruz the rope and he hung himself."

Trump did not bring Teddy to the convention and give him a speaking slot so that he would explode.

The thief tossed himself from the top of the temple all on his own and for absolutely no good reason whatsoever.

Posted by: Drider at July 21, 2016 08:25 AM (bdzyz)

1062 "Go figure, banzai would be the one defending this pos, look around banzai, you're about the only member left in the Cruz fan club."

I'm with banzai. All you Trumpkins getting offended by Cruz not kissing Trump's ring are hilarious. He congratulated him, he spoke passionately about freedom and encouraged voters not to sit home and to vote for the person who would defend the constitution.

And all y'all heard was what? Did he accuse Trump of not wanting to follow the constitution? Nope. Did he emplore anyone there to vote for Hillary. Nope.

Y'all taking ownership of being offended is pretty typical of liberals. Own it. You can't seriously believe anybody there is going to change their vote based on what Ted Cruz said.

Posted by: DanMan at July 21, 2016 08:32 AM (zCcPL)

1063 I like Cruz; he was my ideological choice after Jindal and Walker bowed out.

He certainly chose his own path with his non-endorsement!
Probably to his (short term? long term?) detriment.

I will certainly vote for Trump over the corrupt, treasonous, lying, felon.
That is a fcuking no-brainer.

This teapot-tempest will pass.
Cruz will fade away until his Senate race, and then Texas will decide his fate.

So, let's just chill a bit, my pretties....

Posted by: Ian Galt at July 21, 2016 08:35 AM (8iiMU)

1064 " Did he emplore anyone there to vote for Hillary. Nope. "

Ayep, he did.

Nobody asked him to endorse Trump before he got on that stage. Once there all he had to do was leave off one of his last lines that "ABSLOUTELY DID" say to vote for Hillary. Directly even unless you feel that Hillary/Johnson/write in is not on the ticket that he wants people to look up and down before voting.

Posted by: Drider at July 21, 2016 08:40 AM (bdzyz)

1065 If you think that Trump is just as bad as Hillary, there is nothing I can write to change your sick, twisted mind.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 21, 2016 08:57 AM (4+VII)

1066 If you're talking to me Jimbo you are reading something I didn't write. If as Drider says and Cruz drove voters to Hillary I counter Trump never had them.

I'm talking about the people who seem so offended Cruz wouldn't fluff Trump. Looks like we're going to have the Peter King wing of the GOP ascending for awhile. I'll vote for Trump but I'm not motivated and it sure ain't Cruz's fault.

Posted by: DanMan at July 21, 2016 10:49 AM (RusNE)

1067 Back in the late 1970's I noticed that my boss had a nice looking, brass antique telescope on a bookcase in front of his office window. I always admired it. That summer I soon came to appreciate its utility. His window looked out over Green Park in the west end of London. Over lunch girls from the surrounding offices would strip down to sun there, often to panties only. I would sometimes stroll through Green Park, and the western portion of Hyde Park, on my way home for lunch. Good times.

Posted by: Javems at July 21, 2016 11:12 AM (yOqwj)

1068 similar take here Javens, we had an old brass Gurley theodolite set up on the window sill of our getaway on campus. It was trained on the twin dorm towers...

Posted by: DanMan at July 21, 2016 11:41 AM (RusNE)

1069 Times change swiftly.

I was in Morcote, IT on Lake Lugano in 2008 and not only was no Muslim garb to be seen, it wasn't even a topic of conversation.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 25, 2016 03:23 AM (mgbwf)

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