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Overnight Open Thread (7-20-2016)
ALL OTHER ONTS ARE LIES - ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTES!
Quote of the Day I - DoD Instruction 1300.28 Edition
Ah, I remember my own days in the military fondly, but one of the biggest adjustments we had to make was learning that there was a set of instructions for doing everything from operating heavy machinery to washing your socks. Hey. that's just military life for you. There's always a manual to be referred to and if you get confused, there's a manual listing all of the manuals. Take for example the rules about getting a sex change operation. You'll want to make sure that you've checked in with the correct sources and.
Wait a minute. What was that again? A sex change manual for the military?
For 2016, the Navy has purchased just under 80 million gallons of the 10/90 biofuel blend, about 6 percent of the 1.3 billion gallons of fuel the Navy uses annually. The Navy paid $2.05 per gallon, which is roughly in line with the cost of regular marine diesel thanks to robust biofuel subsidies from the US government, though that hasn't satisfied the program's detractors."There's more important shit to spend money on in the military, period," says US Representative Duncan Hunter, a Marine Corps veteran and Republican congressman from San Diego, principal homeport of the Navy's Pacific Fleet.
He describes the decision-makers behind the Great Green Fleet as "all the smartest guys that went to the John F. Kennedy School of Smart People," and calls their interest in biofuels "just stupid."
Flag-Burning Protester in Cleveland Accidentally Sets Self On Fire
Which reminds me of this classic Reno 911! scene.
Shocker: German Axe Attacker/Refugee Turns Out to Have Lied About His Age, Country of Origin
Clinton VP Contender Won't Be Punished, Said He Didn't 'Intend' To Break Federal Law
This whole no-intent loophole thing seems useful. I must look into it.
47 Years Ago a Young Woman Was Left to Drown by the Lion of the Senate
Democrats and the media lionized Kennedy even though they knew what he had done. They did so because his politics were good, and that washes away all sins on the left - because on the left, the only sin is for one's politics to be incorrect.
Don't worry - He Says He's Really Sorry Now
What's the deal with sports writers and unhinged hatred.
Two thoughts: 1) when Nigeria no longer takes $339 million dollars in aid every year from the just the US alone, they can have a space program and 2) the Financial Times apparently does not have a drug testing policy.
How bad off is Nigeria? This bad.
What's the Creepiest/Craziest Thing You've Heard Over the Radio?
The receiving Radio Tokyo decades after the war story is a good one.
In the Midst of a Heat Wave Britain Debates Whether It's Okay to Sunbathe in Your Underwear
Sometimes the only difference between a bra and a bikini top is the label. And price.
Studies Find That Acupuncture No More Effective at Pain Relief Than Placebos
But it's also cheaper than many placebos and gets good patient satisfaction ratings.
Why They Never Evolved Part IX: Booze-Loving African Chimps Make Special Tools So They Can Get Drunk
6 Things That Are Not Going Smoothly
The Group knows your sins but doesn't care.
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Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Bacon Jeff at July 20, 2016 11:33 PM (VSenK)
Posted by: Michael the TEXIT Hobbit at July 20, 2016 11:34 PM (nvMvs)
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 20, 2016 11:35 PM (gyKtp)
Posted by: JT at July 20, 2016 11:36 PM (1KDwo)
Posted by: exdem13 at July 20, 2016 11:37 PM (ry4ab)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 20, 2016 11:37 PM (9c2P3)
Posted by: Splunge at July 20, 2016 11:37 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 20, 2016 11:38 PM (EzgxV)
Posted by: rgallegos at July 20, 2016 11:39 PM (59GQk)
Posted by: Navin R Johnson at July 20, 2016 11:39 PM (g25eo)
Posted by: Green River Killer at July 20, 2016 11:39 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: Yip at July 20, 2016 11:39 PM (e7T6D)
I hated every minute I was in the army.
Every . . . minute.
And I volunteered.
They didn't draft me for Vietnam.
I volunteered.
Posted by: Listless in Lexington at July 20, 2016 11:39 PM (CDpC4)
Posted by: FireHorse at July 20, 2016 11:40 PM (Z/1fa)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 20, 2016 11:40 PM (3ZoRf)
Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:41 PM (SzZnW)
I can almost imagine the Democrat convention and their response to the GOP show of shows.
Posted by: Listless in Lexington at July 20, 2016 11:41 PM (CDpC4)
...yeah right.
"The Law" is for peons like us.
Posted by: Obakeinu at July 20, 2016 11:41 PM (ry4ab)
Posted by: Yoda at July 20, 2016 11:41 PM (H9MG5)
"other placebos" of course I have practiced the fine art of dental acupuncture.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:42 PM (SzZnW)
Divided we sleep.
Posted by: iforgot at July 20, 2016 11:42 PM (5o5ek)
Maetenloch ONTs are normally all about the subtle wit, like a Drudge juxtaposition, but this had me laughing full out.
Posted by: Splunge at July 20, 2016 11:42 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 20, 2016 11:42 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: boomstick at July 20, 2016 11:42 PM (5uKWa)
Posted by: William Eaton at July 20, 2016 11:42 PM (KhJh8)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 20, 2016 11:42 PM (z1LsB)
and hid out for 9 HOURS like a cowardly little pussy, while he and his disgusting pals figured out the best way to save his political career. Turns out they didn't have to worry about saving his political career because the liberal douchebags in Massachusetts really didn't care about his letting the girl drown because he was a Kennedy, AKA American Royalty.
Camelot blah, blah, blah. Another Kennedy tragedy blah, blah, blah.
Oh it's just so sad that all these terrible things keep happening to the Kennedy's blah, blah, blah.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 20, 2016 11:43 PM (+lVUW)
Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:43 PM (SzZnW)
Posted by: exdem13 at July 20, 2016 11:43 PM (ry4ab)
"I like to go to furry conventions. I swear I'm not a total weirdo I just like to wear a tail and get stupid drunk sometimes."
Posted by: josephistan at July 20, 2016 11:43 PM (7qAYi)
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 20, 2016 11:43 PM (w+Jhj)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 20, 2016 11:43 PM (6gk0M)
At least the Clintons didn't kill anyone.
Oh, wait. Never mind.
Posted by: Vince Foster at July 20, 2016 11:44 PM (+lVUW)
Hear hear....
every thread should be a circular firing squad thread.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:44 PM (SzZnW)
Watch for details at the Yahoo group. This will likely be scheduled for this weekend or next so we can give Alex a proper send-off to his next adventure.
Thanks!
And, howdy, beloved Horde!
Posted by: Emmie at July 20, 2016 11:44 PM (xVuS6)
Posted by: Cobra at July 20, 2016 11:44 PM (Od14x)
Damn house won't cool off, and it's full of flying ants.
So either I have a nest of carpenter ants in the house, or they are going to start one.
I just hope I'm dead before the house falls to ruin.
Posted by: Roasting in Roanoke at July 20, 2016 11:44 PM (CDpC4)
Kasich is a sissyboy. Grow some balls, Mr. Kasich.
Posted by: Fritz at July 20, 2016 11:44 PM (vXmOS)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 20, 2016 11:29 PM (3ZoRf)
++++
Nope. Just skimmed a description, but that doesn't help me with your point. Who is Henry the VIII and who is the Pope in your metaphor?
**willowed from the fugazi ONT**
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 20, 2016 11:44 PM (R+30W)
Posted by: FireHorse at July 20, 2016 11:40 PM (Z/1fa)
The needles have tiny suction cups on the ends.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2016 11:45 PM (zc3Db)
Camelot blah, blah, blah. Another Kennedy tragedy blah, blah, blah.
Oh it's just so sad that all these terrible things keep happening to the Kennedy's blah, blah, blah.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 20, 2016 11:43 PM (+lVUW)
Wasn't there some columnist who argued that if Mary Jo Kopechne could have just looked at the "Lion of the Senate's" career, she would have said "it was totally worth drowning and being abandoned to die in that lake."
Posted by: Splunge at July 20, 2016 11:45 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 20, 2016 11:45 PM (3Liv/)
Posted by: josephistan at July 20, 2016 11:43 PM (
Cue Anna and her link to the my little pony rainbow tail butt plug!
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 20, 2016 11:45 PM (z1LsB)
It's like a game of Jenga for the "average democrat voter" hi high will their bullshit go...?
They spike the football with their media dominance my whole life.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:45 PM (SzZnW)
Posted by: Navin R Johnson at July 20, 2016 11:45 PM (g25eo)
Posted by: Pizza Historian at July 20, 2016 11:46 PM (SEFXb)
Posted by: t-bird at July 20, 2016 11:46 PM (jO7js)
Posted by: Splunge at July 20, 2016 11:46 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: boomstick at July 20, 2016 11:46 PM (5uKWa)
Probably
Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 20, 2016 11:46 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Yip at July 20, 2016 11:46 PM (e7T6D)
Yes, "Mary Jo would be proud at how hard Tedster fought for the wimminz"
which is funny Ted let her drown b/c he had knocked her up and she wanted to keep the baby.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:46 PM (SzZnW)
"I like to go to furry conventions. I swear I'm not a total weirdo I just like to wear a tail and get stupid drunk sometimes."
Posted by: josephistan at July 20, 2016 11:43 PM (7qAYi)
Democratic Convention Delegate.
Posted by: Splunge at July 20, 2016 11:47 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 20, 2016 11:47 PM (DW+jj)
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 20, 2016 11:47 PM (Od14x)
Posted by: exdem13 at July 20, 2016 11:47 PM (ry4ab)
Posted by: Willy J. at July 20, 2016 11:47 PM (mRvs9)
Nah it's all good, I am not here as much as I once was and was politely read the riot act for trying to bridge the gap so to speak.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:48 PM (SzZnW)
If you were ever tempted to give him the benefit of the doubt (hey, I grew up in Massachusetts) the book "Senatorial Privilege" will put you off that.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2016 11:48 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:46 PM (SzZnW)
Not fair. Ted would have let her drown even without that, to save his political career.
Posted by: Splunge at July 20, 2016 11:48 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: Yo! at July 20, 2016 11:48 PM (OgkIz)
No harm, no foul.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 20, 2016 11:48 PM (6gk0M)
I have just learned of a huge pile of gold that I have inherited on the moon, but will need your help to get there. If you just share with me your bank account number I can borrow enough money to get to the moon, and get my inherited pile of gold, that I will gladly share with you when I get back to Earth...
Posted by: Nigerian prince astronaut at July 20, 2016 11:48 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 20, 2016 11:49 PM (z1LsB)
Posted by: Corrupt Media at July 20, 2016 11:49 PM (Jh20h)
"It's just because Huma won't empty my chamberpot."
Posted by: Splunge at July 20, 2016 11:49 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: tbodie at July 20, 2016 11:49 PM (GHHRC)
The bad news is Tedster is in Arlington next to his brother... the good news is they tapped his liver and he will feed the eternal flame for the next 5 billion years.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:49 PM (SzZnW)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 20, 2016 11:49 PM (RmrGn)
Left to drown and she did. Ambassador left to get killed and he did.
Maybe these count as successes in DemocratWorld.
Posted by: t-bird at July 20, 2016 11:49 PM (oFSUK)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 20, 2016 11:49 PM (6gk0M)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2016 11:50 PM (VY8H5)
Posted by: Splunge at July 20, 2016 11:48 PM (iMxBJ)
He would have let her drown just for kicks. Wasn't he also walking around in his underwear while one of his low-life cousins raped a girl? Or do I have the wrong scumbag Kennedy? (It's easy to get scumbags mixed up in the Kennedy clan)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2016 11:50 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Country Singer at July 20, 2016 11:50 PM (GUBah)
But it's also cheaper than many placebos and gets good patient satisfaction ratings.
++++
Given the choice between taking a sugar pill and having needles shoved into me, I'll take the useless pill.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 20, 2016 11:50 PM (R+30W)
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 20, 2016 11:50 PM (Od14x)
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at July 20, 2016 11:50 PM (5xDis)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 20, 2016 11:47 PM (DW+jj)
So all those email scams were to fund their space program. Who knew?
Posted by: josephistan at July 20, 2016 11:50 PM (7qAYi)
Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:49 PM (SzZnW)
"If you think I was fat, you should see my fatty liver."
Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at July 20, 2016 11:51 PM (iMxBJ)
And now that I've pissed off at least a few of the Horde, let me toss this spoon and break out the shovel -- Gluten sensitivity in non-celiacs is bunk. So sez one of the original study scientists that found the sensitivity in the first place, after a much more extensive study with double blinds:
http://tinyurl.com/ogyjy9b
(ScienceAlert.com)
*Hey now, put down those flamethrowers.. I'm just the messenger*
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 20, 2016 11:51 PM (gyKtp)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 20, 2016 11:51 PM (6gk0M)
Posted by: zombie jackie chiles at July 20, 2016 11:51 PM (RmrGn)
LMFAO.
The police deserve a little comic relief these days!
Posted by: PJ at July 20, 2016 11:51 PM (cHuNI)
Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at July 20, 2016 11:51 PM (SSiqh)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2016 11:51 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Rob in Katy at July 20, 2016 11:51 PM (aGtNl)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 20, 2016 11:52 PM (6IPEM)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy
--------------------
Now see what you've gone and done!
This is why we can't have Nice Things. And pudding cups.
Posted by: Chi at July 20, 2016 11:52 PM (dzPJC)
Posted by: josephistan at July 20, 2016 11:52 PM (7qAYi)
Rape is kinda the Kennedy Klan Bar Mitzva....
Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:52 PM (SzZnW)
Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:49 PM (SzZnW)
Only 5 billion?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 20, 2016 11:52 PM (z1LsB)
Posted by: Chi at July 20, 2016 11:52 PM (dzPJC)
How big are the cups?
Posted by: Melania at July 20, 2016 11:53 PM (8iiMU)
The one who raped a girl was a nephew, Dr. William Kennedy Smith.
There was another nephew who murdered Martha Moxley with a golf club.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2016 11:53 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: lousagirl at July 20, 2016 11:53 PM (9plvG)
Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:52 PM (SzZnW)
Except, instead of pens they get seats in Congress for it.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2016 11:53 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at July 20, 2016 11:53 PM (SSiqh)
The bad news is Tedster is in Arlington next to his brother... the good news is they tapped his liver and he will feed the eternal flame for the next 5 billion years.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:49 PM (SzZnW
Sir, May I quote you on this piece of comedy/historic gold?
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 20, 2016 11:53 PM (Od14x)
Posted by: Ian Galt at July 20, 2016 11:53 PM (8iiMU)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 20, 2016 11:54 PM (SRKgf)
And now that I've pissed off at least a few of the Horde, let me toss this spoon and break out the shovel -- Gluten sensitivity in non-celiacs is bunk. So sez one of the original study scientists that found the sensitivity in the first place, after a much more extensive study with double blinds:
http://tinyurl.com/ogyjy9b
(ScienceAlert.com)
*Hey now, put down those flamethrowers.. I'm just the messenger*
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 20, 2016 11:51 PM (gyKtp)
And wearing shirts made from GMO cotton will not give you cancer, as one of my more... interesting co-workers asserts.
Posted by: josephistan at July 20, 2016 11:54 PM (7qAYi)
All my idiocy is in the public domain....
Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:54 PM (SzZnW)
The primary's over. This is all secondary stuff, now.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2016 11:51 PM (zc3Db)
Was it over when the Germans bombed Cleveland?
Fuck no.
Posted by: Maetenloch at July 20, 2016 11:54 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2016 11:53 PM (1xUj/)
That wasn't murder because he did yell "Fore!" ... so no intent.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2016 11:55 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Splunge at July 20, 2016 11:55 PM (iMxBJ)
Estoy en fuego!
Posted by: t-bird at July 20, 2016 11:55 PM (oFSUK)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 20, 2016 11:55 PM (IqV8l)
-Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:49 PM (SzZnW)
"Only 5 billion?"
-Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 20, 2016 11:52 PM (z1LsB)
It is a rough estimate. 4.98732345 billion would take much longer to type.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 20, 2016 11:55 PM (6gk0M)
This is the creepiest/craziest thing I've heard from the "what's the creepiest/craziest thing you've heard" reddit:
"I like to go to furry conventions. I swear I'm not a total weirdo I just like to wear a tail and get stupid drunk sometimes."
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Furries, the guys that Trekkies, anime otaku, fanfic writers, LARPers and goths all agree are uncool, weird, and creepy.
Posted by: exdem13 at July 20, 2016 11:55 PM (ry4ab)
Fuck no.
Posted by: Maetenloch at July 20, 2016 11:54 PM (pAlYe)
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LOL!!
Posted by: L, Elle at July 20, 2016 11:55 PM (6IPEM)
Posted by: SCOAMF at July 20, 2016 11:55 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Yo! at July 20, 2016 11:56 PM (OgkIz)
Fuck no.
Posted by: Maetenloch
---------------
Threadwinner!
Posted by: Chi at July 20, 2016 11:56 PM (dzPJC)
Posted by: Jackal at July 20, 2016 11:56 PM (NiR1r)
Posted by: Wall-E at July 20, 2016 11:57 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Chi at July 20, 2016 11:52 PM (dzPJC)How big are the cups?
D
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 20, 2016 11:57 PM (z1LsB)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 20, 2016 11:57 PM (RmrGn)
Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 20, 2016 11:57 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 20, 2016 11:58 PM (4ng05)
Posted by: lousagirl at July 20, 2016 11:58 PM (9plvG)
Fuck no.
Posted by: Maetenloch at July 20, 2016 11:54 PM (pAlYe)
The Japanese did bomb the continental U.S. in WWII, but not as far as Cleveland.
http://tinyurl.com/jq7lpkt
Posted by: josephistan at July 20, 2016 11:58 PM (7qAYi)
-Fuck no."
-Posted by: Maetenloch at July 20, 2016 11:54 PM (pAlYe)
They didn't have to bomb Cleveland. We took it in the ass from our own City Council.
Granted, we were able to extinguish a river.
We have no excuse for the Browns.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 20, 2016 11:58 PM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Splunge at July 20, 2016 11:45 PM (iMxBJ)
Yeah, I believe the commentary was something about how she would have thought it was worth while because of all the good he did. And by good he did, we mean pushing for the killing of fetuses.
Also, IIRC, one of the times Sirhan Sirhan was up for parole, he used the argument that Robert Kennedy would have wanted him to be paroled or something. The parole board didn't go for it. By the way, is he dead yet?
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 20, 2016 11:59 PM (+lVUW)
He's the Kennedy who murdered Martha Moxley.
I hate having to look things up. It means my brain is going bad.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2016 11:59 PM (1xUj/)
The one who raped a girl was a nephew, Dr. William Kennedy Smith.
There was another nephew who murdered Martha Moxley with a golf club.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2016 11:53 PM (1xUj/)
Yeah, he's right, teddy was stumbling around in his bvd's while the nephew was raping the gal
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 20, 2016 11:59 PM (z1LsB)
Anyway, Total Public Debt Outstanding just hit $19.4T. It started the fiscal year at $18.1T, so it's up $1.3T in about 10 months. Now, they did a little trick. When the suspended the debt ceiling (again, and this avoids having to vote on an actual number), Treasury didn't unwind all the accounting tricks at once. They stretched the unwinding out over a few months. So some of that $1.3T was actually accumulated during the previous fiscal year.
Anyway, when Barky leaves office, he's gonna be close to $20T. We might have a pool on what the final number will be.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 20, 2016 11:59 PM (DW+jj)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 20, 2016 11:59 PM (P/kVC)
Fuck no.
Posted by: Maetenloch///
It would be if they did it now.
Posted by: Willy J. at July 20, 2016 11:59 PM (mRvs9)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 20, 2016 11:59 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: Jon Baptise Emmanual Zorg at July 21, 2016 12:00 AM (CDpC4)
Posted by: garrett at July 21, 2016 12:00 AM (5kP64)
Can I get in on this. I love brackets.
... I'm taking Sycacuse.
Posted by: SCOAMF
I'm taking Dallas.
Posted by: Debbie at July 21, 2016 12:00 AM (IqV8l)
Spoeaking of placebic addictions, I caught myself tweeting in wordpad this evening....
It was pretty embrassing when my inner monologue Chris Matthews made more sense and sounded more sober than @HardballedChris
Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:00 AM (SzZnW)
In all fairness, placebos are fairly effective in many cases.
But it's also cheaper than many placebos and gets good patient satisfaction ratings.
Now this is the really weird part. I guess they have to charge a lot for placebos so that patients don't know that they're placebos ... I think the placebo business might be the place to go.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 12:00 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Bombing in Baltimore at July 21, 2016 12:01 AM (CDpC4)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1),
I would have expected it to be much longer.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:01 AM (z1LsB)
...
Oh my face hurts from laughing at that.
Love Reno 911 too. it's time to find some old episodes and re-watch.
Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (ozZau)
Posted by: Yo! at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (i3CoX)
If the girls are hot, they should not be wearing their underwear. It is a heatwave, after all.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (4ng05)
which is funny Ted let her drown b/c he had knocked her up and she wanted to keep the baby.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 20, 2016 11:46 PM (SzZnW)
Huh. Well, I wonder what was the motive for Marlyn Monroe? Pregnant by one Kennedy saint or the other? Writing a tell all? Knew about JFK's connections to the mafia?
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (+lVUW)
Fuck no.
Posted by: Maetenloch///
It would be if they did it now.
---
The Germans and what army?
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (3Liv/)
Posted by: J. R. "Bob" Dobbs at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (EZebt)
Finished with the last major project at work. I've got nothing on the plate for the last week and a half. Time to shred a shit-ton of papers!
Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (fC9RO)
Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (9plvG)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (P/kVC)
-Posted by: Willy J. at July 20, 2016 11:59 PM (mRvs9)
Show me the German and I'll show you resistance.
...as long as I don't wind-up in a camp under Democratic rule.
...as a German American.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 12:03 AM (mRvs9)
Which reminds me...why in the hell would you start a life of crime when you can have a life in government?
Posted by: t-bird at July 21, 2016 12:03 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 21, 2016 12:03 AM (fC9RO)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 12:03 AM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Colorado Alex
So what's it like working for Hillary?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 12:04 AM (VY8H5)
Posted by: Pizza Historian at July 21, 2016 12:04 AM (SEFXb)
For anyone trapped behind enemy lines in a Northern state, I have a 2 BR
2BA emergency relocation home available to you in a nice neighborhood
in Madisonville, KY. Link in nic. 95K rock bottom.
Posted by: CK at July 20, 2016 11:51 PM (SSiqh)
Nice little place. If it's got central cooling, what's the thing sticking out of the window above the screened porch?
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:04 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 12:04 AM (zc3Db)
A misplaced sense of decency?
Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 21, 2016 12:04 AM (fC9RO)
Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 20, 2016 11:57 PM (R5HRU)
Nope, not until things mellow out. Chi will just have to vouch for it.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:04 AM (z1LsB)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (P/kVC)
There was an article in the Daily Mail a while back about some Brit guy who got himself tattooed with Chinese characters, and couldn't understand it when Chinese girls giggled when they saw his tattoo. Turned out it said "at the end of the day, this is an ugly boy."
Posted by: Splunge at July 21, 2016 12:05 AM (iMxBJ)
No, no, and yes....
where she screwed up was getting a little too clingy and pissing Jackie O off....
She knew the goods on Mooney Giancana and Joe Kennedy's antics with the Outfit.
I have no trouble believing they killed her with a downer enema.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:05 AM (SzZnW)
Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:05 AM (9plvG)
Posted by: Megyn at July 21, 2016 12:05 AM (5xDis)
-Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:01 AM (z1LsB)
Listen, lady... these are the figures. This is what I have to work with and that's the long and the short of it.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:05 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 21, 2016 12:06 AM (gyKtp)
Posted by: Country Singer at July 21, 2016 12:06 AM (GUBah)
Low IQ? Otherwise, a distinction without a difference.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 21, 2016 12:06 AM (SRKgf)
Posted by: t-bird at July 21, 2016 12:03 AM (9mTYi)
Historical a government position is considered a gateway to the fringe benefits of graft and influence peddling.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 21, 2016 12:06 AM (P/kVC)
Cops: Naked Missouri Couple Rode Stolen Lawn Mower In Broad Daylight
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 12:06 AM (VY8H5)
Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:00 AM (SzZnW)
Since my tragic experience with addiction, I find I rarely have to worry about making sense. Glass half full, I guess.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 21, 2016 12:06 AM (4ng05)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2016 12:06 AM (0mRoj)
DHP is the "real money" borrowed from the public (mostly, there's some complications), the real Ts out there that represent real money borrowed by Uncle. The Intragov, the unmarketable, is the "IOUs" given to SS and Medicare and the pension funds for federal workers still in that system. It's fake crap, and the source of the accounting tricks they use to skirt the debt limit for a while.
At any, Uncle has a shit pile of debt out there that has to redeemed. He pays it off by borrowing new money. New Ts are issued to replace the maturing Ts, and finance any new deficit. This is known as rolling debt.
All told, Uncle has rolled just under $7T of debt this fiscal year. Now, the total, counting the unmarketable is a mind-boggling $73T. This is mostly just accounting, "rolling" the IOUs, which because of how they structure it, have to rolled a lot.
You can see why I'm so sure we're just flat-out fucked. When you look at all this debt, you realize there's no way out.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (DW+jj)
I have a house back in Indiana....that's how smart I am...well no not really.... maybe I can bounce the house to Ohio?
Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (SzZnW)
about some Brit guy who got himself tattooed with Chinese characters,
and couldn't understand it when Chinese girls giggled when they saw his
tattoo. Turned out it said "at the end of the day, this is an ugly boy."
Posted by: Splunge at July 21, 2016 12:05 AM (iMxBJ)
My favorite was the tramp stamp that said: "Insert here."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (SRKgf)
*sighs* alright.....
I'm out folks, night night.
Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (R5HRU)
92 This is why we can't have Nice Things. And pudding cups.
Posted by: Chi at July 20, 2016 11:52 PM (dzPJC)How big are the cups?
D
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 20, 2016 11:57 PM (z1LsB)
I wouldn't have guessed....
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (EzgxV)
Me too. And then the cops arrested them all and took them in. Too stupid to be out at night, lol.
Posted by: PJ at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (cHuNI)
What is the placebo for hey-put-needles-in-my-face? I get it when they're studying pills- give the guy a sugar pill or the real one. But I'm not sure how you double-blind an acupuncture study.
Posted by: t-bird at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (OLNwX)
Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Megyn at July 21, 2016 12:05 AM (5xDis)///
Your a little young to be thinking of retirement aren't you?
Posted by: Roger Ailes at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (mRvs9)
All while at a live performance of Hamilton!
Boomer Time!
Posted by: Randy Bromide at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (yx30y)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 12:04 AM (zc3Db)
There was no RNC stuff in there. It was an answer to publius' pool about what the debt will be when Barky is supposed to leave in January.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (4ng05)
about some Brit guy who got himself tattooed with Chinese characters,
and couldn't understand it when Chinese girls giggled when they saw his
tattoo. Turned out it said "at the end of the day, this is an ugly boy."
Posted by: Splunge at July 21, 2016 12:05 AM (iMxBJ)
There is a blog that specializes in this topic
http://hanzismatter.blogspot.com/
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (P/kVC)
WE don't have to worry about that national debt.
We owe ourselves all that money so when it comes time to pay we can just forgive ourselves of the debt and nothing will be lost because we have already received the money borrowed and spent it all ready.
It's not like we owe it to someone else who will try and collected it; like a credit card company.
It's all just book keeping entries in the budget.
Posted by: Book keeping in Baton Rouge at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (CDpC4)
That British heatwave must have skipped Scotland. Watching the British Open in Scotland this past weekend, it looked rather blustery and cold.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (2EbTQ)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (z1LsB)
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (Od14x)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2016 11:48 PM (1xUj/)
Can't be any worse than "The Dark Side of Camelot".
The entire family was completely disgusting, starting with old Joe. The man was an absolute pig. His sons were just like him. Seriously, those people had no conscience. And the women in their lives were pathetic doormats who put up with horrible treatment.
They painted Rose as being such a saint. She stayed with her husband who had an operation done on her daughter Rosemary that made her mentally retarded. Everyone cheers for that family because they pushed the Special Olympics for developmentally disabled people. Well, Rosemary wasn't born that way, Joe Kennedy did it to her.
I don't know why Rose didn't suffocate him in his sleep.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 21, 2016 12:09 AM (+lVUW)
Airforce?
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Well yes, but I had a feeling there was a punchline there, but couldn't find it myself. I was hoping someone more drunk than me would manage.
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 21, 2016 12:09 AM (3Liv/)
Look Vox just showed up to explain that perpetual motion economics really can work...
Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:09 AM (SzZnW)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (SRKgf)
Oh that is awesome. But I think there are chicks out there who might want that. To be avoided in this new, post-antibiotic world, of course.
Posted by: Splunge at July 21, 2016 12:10 AM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 21, 2016 12:10 AM (Od14x)
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a11/AS11-40-5863-69.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 12:10 AM (GYSvp)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 12:10 AM (1xUj/)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 21, 2016 12:11 AM (VdICR)
We owe ourselves all that money so when it comes time to pay we can
just forgive ourselves of the debt and nothing will be lost because we
have already received the money borrowed and spent it all ready.
It's not like we owe it to someone else who will try and collected it; like a credit card company.
It's all just book keeping entries in the budget.
Posted by: Book keeping in Baton Rouge at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (CDpC4)
You left out issuing $1 trillion coins. Or keeping tulip bulbs in the Treasury. Or Beanie Babies.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 21, 2016 12:11 AM (SRKgf)
...except bookkeeper.
I denounce myself.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:11 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 21, 2016 12:11 AM (KRwzj)
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/755836330282737665
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/755836545760956416
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/755836896148946944
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/755837064449581056
Posted by: kbdabear at July 21, 2016 12:11 AM (BpqaV)
Posted by: Megyn at July 21, 2016 12:05 AM (5xDis)
Your a little young to be thinking of retirement aren't you?
Posted by: Roger Ailes at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (mRvs9)
Okay, okay I'll do butt stuff.
But I want another $10 million book deal first!
Posted by: Megyn at July 21, 2016 12:11 AM (5xDis)
http://hanzismatter.blogspot.com/
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (P/kVC)
Very nice. "Toilet demon?"
Posted by: Splunge at July 21, 2016 12:11 AM (iMxBJ)
You forgot the punchline.....
Joe turned Rosemary into Corky b/c she snuck out and got drunk and laid....a...lot
yes had she had a penis she'd have been his favorite son....
"feminism"
Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:11 AM (SzZnW)
So I read the post. Followed the links. Followed the links off the links. Followed suggested videos off videos on the links.
Or I would have been first. Or fiftieth. Or something besides this.
Howdy, folks.
Posted by: mindful webworker at long last at July 21, 2016 12:11 AM (5a8XA)
Posted by: the DOJ at July 21, 2016 12:11 AM (H9MG5)
Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:12 AM (9plvG)
Posted by: tubal at July 21, 2016 12:12 AM (d6TTt)
I don't see the problem. They already go naked. It's a standing joke.
Posted by: Kamping in Keokuck at July 21, 2016 12:12 AM (CDpC4)
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/755837218657300480
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/755837392368599040
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/755838865441591296
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/755838990876413952
Posted by: kbdabear at July 21, 2016 12:12 AM (BpqaV)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (
Well yeah. Gotta wear the sports bra to DL. Don't want the girls giving me black eyes, bouncing around on the Matterhorn.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:12 AM (z1LsB)
"There's more important shit to spend money on in the military, period," says US Representative Duncan Hunter, a Marine Corps veteran and Republican congressman from San Diego, principal homeport of the Navy's Pacific Fleet.
He describes the decision-makers behind the Great Green Fleet as "all the smartest guys that went to the John F. Kennedy School of Smart People," and calls their interest in biofuels "just stupid."
I love this guy. No homo.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2016 12:13 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:09 AM (SzZnW)
<<<
Is it Moo Moo...?
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik is totally not Iceman at July 21, 2016 12:13 AM (jV8Mq)
Frank:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lJFRh4RmEw
Bob:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch2m5BbzRfY
Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2016 12:13 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 21, 2016 12:13 AM (+lVUW)
Posted by: donna at July 21, 2016 12:13 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: tubal at July 21, 2016 12:14 AM (d6TTt)
-Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:12 AM (9plvG)
Sven is smarter than most of us. You just have to dig through the A.D.D.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:14 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: donna at July 21, 2016 12:14 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: The Most Interesting Moron In The World at July 21, 2016 12:14 AM (/wm8n)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (0mRoj)
They were really charismatic. They said some pretty things. They were really good looking.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (1xUj/)
And she does the, uh, "Megan stuff". A friend told me, honest.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (DW+jj)
Evening, fappers. The sidebar story about the global warming expedition
stuck in the ice has given me one of the largest schadenboners I've ever
had.
-----------
Does a man's heart to see fools get their Aesop, it sure does.
Posted by: exdem13 at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (ry4ab)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (fC9RO)
Frank:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7klm1GS3v8
Bob:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1apKNgLWV00
Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (sdi6R)
No no just laughing at myself sorry Lou...
it's like this....I have a house 234 miles from where I want a house, I almost bought a house 1564 miles from where I want a house....
Thank God I am not a tycoon I'd probably buy a house on fucking Mars before I got the one I want back in Ohio.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (SzZnW)
We owe ourselves all that money so when it comes time to pay we can just forgive ourselves of the debt and nothing will be lost because we have already received the money borrowed and spent it all ready.
Posted by: Book keeping in Baton Rouge at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (CDpC4)
You seem to be confused by the fact that "we" (and "ourselves") can represent different groups in the same sentence.
But the fact is that the US is going to have to default on that debt, eventually. There's no getting around that. And the games that the Fed is playing and the deficit spending that Washington is doing are making that default all the more assured and immediate. But when that happens, the "we" who bought the debt are going to be crushed.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (zc3Db)
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a11/ap11-S69-40308.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (GYSvp)
Posted by: Roger Ailes at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (mRvs9)
Posted by: tubal at July 21, 2016 12:14 AM (d6TTt)
<<<
He WAS un-banned, so ya never know...
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik is totally not Iceman at July 21, 2016 12:16 AM (jV8Mq)
-Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:12 AM (z1LsB)
If you said that again, but slower, I'd leave this site and find "something better to do", like...
...forever.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:16 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 21, 2016 12:16 AM (fC9RO)
I won't link to it so I don't wind up blowing the margins and getting my ass in the Barrel.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:16 AM (6IPEM)
Posted by: tubal at July 21, 2016 12:14 AM (d6TTt)
He WAS un-banned, so ya never know...
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik is totally not Iceman at July 21, 2016 12:16 AM (jV8Mq)
He was? I hadn't noticed.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:17 AM (0mRoj)
You missed one
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM (z1Ls
Snitch. No pizza for you, EVER! Never, anymore.
Posted by: Pizza Historian at July 21, 2016 12:17 AM (SEFXb)
Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:17 AM (9plvG)
Which is not a good transformation for a female...
Posted by: shibumi who lives in a nation without laws at July 21, 2016 12:17 AM (tvyXw)
Posted by: █████ at July 21, 2016 12:17 AM (IqV8l)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:12 AM (z1LsB)
This is why you should stick with the tea cups. Grim and I would be happy to join you.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (fC9RO)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (1xUj/m
Huh? In what fucking alternate universe?!!!! Definitely not the evil, bearded Star Trek one.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (z1LsB)
Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (SzZnW)
Yeah, there's no chance she expects anyone to be looking at her eyes.
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (3Liv/)
Posted by: Mooning in Monroe at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (CDpC4)
Andrea Mitchell's my pin-up gal.
See you in the great '68 in the sky.
Posted by: Randy Bromide at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (yx30y)
-Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (0mRoj)
As long as it ain't Red, Blue or *spits* Yeller.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (GYSvp)
Well, a lot of the "we" who bought the debt are "them" what are foreigners, so when we can't pay it it will only crash the entire international financial system.
Does anyone have cookies?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (1xUj/)
The games Treasury plays are just remarkable. I was looking at the debt
transactions. There are two kinds of debt, marketable, and unmarketable
(which roughly translates as Debt Held by the Public, vs the
Intragovernmental Debt).
DHP is the "real money" borrowed from
the public (mostly, there's some complications), the real Ts out there
that represent real money borrowed by Uncle. The Intragov, the
unmarketable, is the "IOUs" given to SS and Medicare and the pension
funds for federal workers still in that system. It's fake crap, and the
source of the accounting tricks they use to skirt the debt limit for a
while.
At any, Uncle has a shit pile of debt out there that has
to redeemed. He pays it off by borrowing new money. New Ts are issued
to replace the maturing Ts, and finance any new deficit. This is known
as rolling debt.
All told, Uncle has rolled just under $7T of
debt this fiscal year. Now, the total, counting the unmarketable is a
mind-boggling $73T. This is mostly just accounting, "rolling" the IOUs,
which because of how they structure it, have to rolled a lot.
You can see why I'm so sure we're just flat-out fucked. When you look at all this debt, you realize there's no way out.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (DW+jj)
The way out is too easy. Repudiate the national debt. Flat-out declare any debt issued since the founding of the Federal Reserve to be illegal, and raise new cash by auctioning off 99% of Federal lands for non-Federal-Reserve-Notes (since Federal Reserve Notes are backed by the National Debt). When this is done, swap the new cash for old at whatever exchange rate people see fit.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (EzgxV)
We owe ourselves all that money so when it comes time to pay we can just forgive ourselves of the debt and nothing will be lost because we have already received the money borrowed and spent it all ready.
It's not like we owe it to someone else who will try and collected it; like a credit card company.
It's all just book keeping entries in the budget.
Posted by: Book keeping in Baton Rouge at July 21, 2016 12:08 AM
Well OK. Live on in your fantasy world.
Posted by: Farmer at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (o/90i)
If they are gonna sunbathe in their knickers and bras, I suggest they wear peekaboos.
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Somewhere the ghost of Benny Hill is smiling at it all.
Posted by: exdem13 at July 21, 2016 12:19 AM (ry4ab)
The one who raped a girl was a nephew, Dr. William Kennedy Smith.
There was another nephew who murdered Martha Moxley with a golf club.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2016 11:53 PM (1xUj/)
Also, assorted Kennedys have died of drug overdose, one's wife or exwife hung herself, there are innumerable drunk driving incidents, one died because they were playing football on a f**king ski slope. The ex wife who hung herself was buried in a family plot, then dug up and reburied somewhere else.
When, oh when, will the terrible tragedies haunting these poor people ever end? Sob!
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 21, 2016 12:19 AM (+lVUW)
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Well, okey-doke then.
Posted by: Barky at July 21, 2016 12:19 AM (J3phO)
You're one of my co-workers, aren't you?
Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at July 21, 2016 12:19 AM (tvyXw)
It's just an ONT thing. Most are tired out it at this hour. And it's been going on for months.
Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 12:19 AM (dzPJC)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (zc3Db) <<<
I was thinking "hyper-inflation", personally. But, you could be correct.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik is totally not Iceman at July 21, 2016 12:19 AM (jV8Mq)
LOUND EYE YOU NO GET CHEAP-A HAMMAH!
//China
Yeah now factor in the WMDs as people are enraged globally
Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:20 AM (SzZnW)
Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:20 AM (9plvG)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 12:20 AM (GYSvp)
Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:17 AM (9plvG)
Aww, they didn't mean anything by all that, just funnin' around.
We're mostly too old to be ironic hipster douchebags. All we can muster is some semi-funny snark most of the time.
Posted by: tubal at July 21, 2016 12:20 AM (d6TTt)
I should have thought this out and done it in alphabetical order.
Hmmmm.. there is a Zanesville
and a Xenia in Ohio
Posted by: Adjusting in Albany at July 21, 2016 12:20 AM (CDpC4)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:20 AM (3ZoRf)
Posted by: nerdygirl
****
I would respond to that, but I don't want to get banned.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 21, 2016 12:21 AM (hVdx9)
HEH!! I was stationed in the UK (90-93) and lucked out with the summertime weather. It was always pretty warm and nice. And yes, they lose there shit when the weather is nice for more than 4 hours.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 21, 2016 12:21 AM (2EbTQ)
The Kennedy coat of arms is three weasels exiting a pub with snorkels on....
it represents the family character and proclivity for turning ANYTHING into a submarine.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:21 AM (SzZnW)
Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2016 12:21 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Pizza Historian at July 21, 2016 12:17 AM (SEFXb
Empty carbs that fool your drunken ass into thinking it will help soak up the booze, but ends up making you hurl from the grease.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:22 AM (z1LsB)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 12:22 AM (GYSvp)
Don't forget Youngstown....
Ohio may well be unique in having all the letters of the alphabet representing municipalities.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:22 AM (SzZnW)
"The old infirmary was transformed into a skittle alley in 1864 and intended to relieve the boredom of the naval pensioners. Hidden underneath the grand buildings of the ORNC, you'll feel as if you're taking a step back in time...and, of course, you'll have the opportunity for a game using wooden practice cannonballs!"
details at www.ornc.org
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 12:22 AM (VY8H5)
It's the county seat of my home county....
the local joke given its tornado magnet status is "X marks the spot."
Casa 10077 may well be there if I crawl home in 3-5 years.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:23 AM (SzZnW)
173 I wouldn't have guessed....
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (
Well yeah. Gotta wear the sports bra to DL. Don't want the girls giving me black eyes, bouncing around on the Matterhorn.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:12 AM (z1LsB)
I was thinking something about a "Gentleman's C".... https://www.urbandictionary.com /define.php?term=Gentleman%27s%20C
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:23 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: sven10077
------------
*fist bump*
I just sling random stuff up, hoping that something might gain some traction. Pretty much zero so far.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 12:23 AM (J3phO)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (DW+jj)
======
Inflation and currency devaluation. See: Weimar Republic, 1923.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 21, 2016 12:23 AM (EZebt)
Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM
Join the crowd.
Better than most other blogs.
Posted by: Farmer at July 21, 2016 12:23 AM (o/90i)
We're mostly too old to be ironic hipster douchebags. All we can muster is some semi-funny snark most of the time.
Posted by: tubal at July 21, 2016 12:20 AM (d6TTt)
Hey screw you, pal, I'm not that old!
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:23 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 21, 2016 12:23 AM (RmrGn)
Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:23 AM (9plvG)
144 [no RNC stuff]
Posted by: Prescient99 at July 21, 2016 12:02 AM (yx+Pc)
This is a previously banned person. Shouldn't they be rebanned
Posted by: Buzzion at July 21, 2016 12:23 AM (lDMnP)
Okay... he's smarter than me, but he has his wild tangents.
Four web-pages and thirty Horde posts later, I can interpret him. It simply takes time and effort.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:23 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:24 AM (0mRoj)
Love ya Lou....
I like Pence a lot...I liked him a lot more before he started taking Kasich pills.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:24 AM (SzZnW)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (1xUj/)
Yeah ... it's going to be ugly. We are going to be witnesses to an event that has never happened before - the implosion of a currency that serves as both the world reserve and trade currency and for which there are no possible replacements. Never before has this happened. Large currencies have imploded but that was always within the context of having other large currencies to use and take up the slack. With the dollar, there is nothing else that replace it. It will be a unique event - and it is impossible to overstate how dangerous and disastrous it will be.
But Barky and his Vichy GOP butt-boys just had to keep borrowing a trillion a year (and the Fed printing up as much) to spend on dogshit so that they could crow about economic growth of 200 billion ... What a total, complete, retarded fuck-up this has been.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 12:24 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 12:15 AM (zc3Db) <<<
I was thinking "hyper-inflation", personally. But, you could be correct.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik is totally not Iceman at July 21, 2016 12:19 AM (jV8Mq)
Same thing.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 21, 2016 12:25 AM (SRKgf)
Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:23 AM (9plvG)
We're just a bunch of morons with expansive vocabularies and way too many in-jokes.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:25 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 21, 2016 12:25 AM (OzvpI)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 21, 2016 12:25 AM (RmrGn)
Her balance sheet now stands at $4.43T, of which $2.46T (I love how three significant figures means rounding to the nearest $10B) are Uncle Debt, Ts. That is, $2.46T is monetized Uncle debt. I think the Fed is no by far the single largest holder of US debt.
There is now $1.42T of FRNs outstanding. At the moment, Uncle has about $300B in his "checking account" with Janet, and the banks have $2.7T in theirs.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:25 AM (DW+jj)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (fC9RO)
Oh hell to the no. You saw the pictures of Marine powered Teacup of Death and post traumatic teacup distress disorder on the book of face. It's cruel to even suggest!!!!
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:25 AM (z1LsB)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 12:25 AM (GYSvp)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 21, 2016 12:25 AM (OzvpI)
That's what Megan McCain does.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:26 AM (0mRoj)
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You can imagine my bitter disappointment when I visited Bedlam, and found it converted to a military museum. Stupid military.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 12:26 AM (J3phO)
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I thoght his problem was speech to text issues.
Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 12:26 AM (mRvs9)
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:25 AM (0mRoj)
But mostly in jokes. Integrity!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:26 AM (3ZoRf)
Was that the jet? Some famous German ace flew the first one in combat, right? I read his account somewhere in the dim past.
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 21, 2016 12:26 AM (3myMJ)
-Posted by: andycanuck at July 21, 2016 12:25 AM (RmrGn)
*HAH!*
Indeed!
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (9plvG)
Yeah, you guys are way to smart cool for me, yes, I don't get the
bracket thing, sorry, I work at 5:00 in the morning mon thru Friday and
I'm just not as fucking cool as you guys, sheesh you make lgf look like
nice guys
Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:17 AM (9plvG)
Awwwww....lousagirl, I'm frantically trying to chase up to the active part of the thread so I don't miss you. I'm glad you're here. (only about 40 behind now)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (EzgxV)
And she does the, uh, "Megan stuff". A friend told me, honest.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)
Name? For,,,uh,,,,a science project.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (2EbTQ)
Posted by: phoenixgirl you must fight for independence EVERYDAY at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: yap island stone currency at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (RmrGn)
Posted by: mindful webworker at long last at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (5a8XA)
But mostly in jokes. Integrity!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:26 AM (3ZoRf)
That's damn right.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (0mRoj)
Re: "Bethlehem Shoals". There's nothing wrong with his ass that an encounter with a 24" Husqvarna wouldn't fix.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (GSdpU)
Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (9plvG)
It's not major - no overnight stay - but I am a little nervous... a few prayers would be appreciated.
Good night horde.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersands and &&& so there) at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (P8951)
Posted by: andycanuck
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Oh yeah?
Here, hold my beer...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (J3phO)
When, oh when, will the terrible tragedies haunting these poor people ever end? Sob!
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 21, 2016 12:19 AM (+lVUW)
Don't forget the loser idiot who couldn't pass the bar who killed himself, his wife and her friend because he was a shit-poor pilot who wasn't instrument rated flying in weather with a cast on his leg. And it only took about one week after his death for his piece of shit magazine to fold.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (zc3Db)
We monetize the national debt, and to offset inflation we import the entire population of Brazil in order to lower labor costs!
Posted by: The Donor Class at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (5xDis)
Was that the jet? Some famous German ace flew the first one in combat, right? I read his account somewhere in the dim past.
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 21, 2016 12:26 AM (3myMJ)
ME-262 was one of the jets the Germans developed, the other one was... Anna, what was the other one? I am too drunk to remember right now. The Salamander?
There was also the rocket plane they developed the Comet(?). That must have been a ride.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:28 AM (3ZoRf)
Here, hold my beer...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (J3phO)
Oh shit.
*ducks and covers*
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:28 AM (0mRoj)
Well "a" jet not "the jet" but yeah....
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base nee "Wright Field" was the seat of the USAAC Foreign Technology Division so every time we captured a piece of enemy aviation kit intact we'd send it to Fairborn Ohio and learn how to kill it....
The thing is all the knows were in German, Italian, or Japanese so they crashed some.
Out on Haddix road in Fairborn you can still find pieces of T-33 wreckage....
Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:28 AM (SzZnW)
-Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 12:26 AM (mRvs9)
No. The guy thinks that way. It is up to us to interpret his asinine genius.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:29 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: tubal at July 21, 2016 12:29 AM (d6TTt)
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik is totally not Iceman at July 21, 2016 12:19 AM (jV8Mq)
Yes. That is more likely and that is what I base my "implosion of the currency" on. A default would be the only way to save the currency, but that probably won't be allowed to happen, so they will print to the sky and take the whole monetary system down.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 12:29 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 12:29 AM (J3phO)
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:24 AM (0mRoj)
According to PJ O'Rourke:
"It is always tempting to impute
unlikely virtues to the cute."
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersands and &&& so there) at July 21, 2016 12:29 AM (P8951)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 21, 2016 12:29 AM (RmrGn)
Posted by: tubal at July 21, 2016 12:29 AM (d6TTt)
You mean you weren't born that way?
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:29 AM (0mRoj)
Prayers for your surgery, Donna.
Posted by: Michael the TEXIT Hobbit at July 21, 2016 12:30 AM (nvMvs)
Their rocket was the ME-163...
The Italians had a turbojet they were working on...
Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:30 AM (SzZnW)
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersands and &&& so there) at July 21, 2016 12:30 AM (P8951)
Was that the jet? Some famous German ace flew the first one in combat, right? I read his account somewhere in the dim past.
I'm going to get in before Anna Puma knows way more than I do.
ME-262 was the first servicable combat jet. There's a sometime commenter around here who uses its nickname, die Schwalbe (the swallow).
Hitler had stupid ideas about how to use it (i.e. other than as a fighter).
Five of them made it to the U.S. after WWII and one of them was on display at the Willow Grove Naval Air Station in Pennsylvania.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 12:31 AM (1xUj/)
Posted by: tbodie at July 21, 2016 12:31 AM (GHHRC)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:31 AM (z1LsB)
Might you find yourself hand-in-hand with God tonight. When tomorrow dawns, find yourself in His care.
Our collective love is with you, ma'am!
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:31 AM (6gk0M)
It's not major - no overnight stay - but I am a little nervous... a few prayers would be appreciated.
Good night horde.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersands and &&& so there) at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (P8951)
Arthroscopic, I presume? Walk in the park. Had it done myself. You will be just fine.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:31 AM (0mRoj)
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Hey that reminds me...
Two weeks til Rio!!!
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 21, 2016 12:31 AM (3Liv/)
It's not major - no overnight stay - but I am a little nervous... a few prayers would be appreciated.
Good night horde.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersands and &&& so there) at July 21, 2016 12:
Protip, Donna. Marketh the offending knee with a magic marker, saying like "it's THIS knee that hurts".
You're welcome.
Posted by: tubal at July 21, 2016 12:32 AM (d6TTt)
Thanks. I meant the first jet to be flown in combat, is that right?
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 21, 2016 12:32 AM (3myMJ)
Posted by: lousagirl at July 21, 2016 12:32 AM (9plvG)
According to PJ O'Rourke:
"It is always tempting to impute
unlikely virtues to the cute."
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersands and &&& so there) at July 21, 2016 12:29 AM (P8951)
I suppose so. I don't do that, but I'm a cynical and untrusting son of a bitch.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:32 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 12:32 AM (GYSvp)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:33 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 12:33 AM (dzPJC)
Pooty-Poot and the Chicoms are making plans for the fall of the dollar as the world reserve currency. When the shit hits the fan, they'll pull the plug. That's when we go to shit. Fast.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:33 AM (DW+jj)
Posted by: Sid and Maety Krofft at July 21, 2016 12:33 AM (H9MG5)
First operationally deployed non prototype Jet Fighter....
Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:33 AM (SzZnW)
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Hey that reminds me...
Two weeks til Rio!!!
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 21, 2016 12:31 AM (3Liv/)
Pumping raw shit into the waterways will be adopted as an official Olympic event.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:33 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Rick Grimes at July 21, 2016 12:33 AM (4dbPD)
(only about 40 behind now)
IQ points?
Welcome, brother!
Posted by: andycanuck at July 21, 2016 12:29 AM (RmrGn)
It was 60 and I was slipping. Hopefully I've regained some.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:33 AM (EzgxV)
Asinine or not his casa sounds like the place you want to be when the shit hits the fan ( assuming he labels you as friendly)
Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 12:33 AM (mRvs9)
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 21, 2016 12:34 AM (3myMJ)
You guys are what happens when TV show producers take the brown acid.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:34 AM (0mRoj)
If I break my wife's favorite champagne glasses (and, trust me, I have a bug-out bag ready for the day this happens!) it's either because I mishandled them, or because I had intent to break them. It can't be both.
So how come Comey demands that Hillary have "criminal intent" along with "mishandling" in order for it to be a punishable offense?
Is there such a thing as malicious clumsiness?
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 12:34 AM (aFQtB)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:34 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:22 AM (z1LsB)
Tell yourself that. You'll miss me, and cave for a $5 Domino's special within a week. Snarf it all by yourself, you would, BUT NO, I won't let you. You can't have any, ever. No Chicago Deep Dish, no NY coal-fired oven thin crust, no artisan custom. None. Not even a scrappy delivery. Y're dead to the Pizza world.
Posted by: Pizza Historian at July 21, 2016 12:34 AM (SEFXb)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:34 AM (6gk0M)
vote on an actual number), Treasury didn't unwind all the accounting
tricks at once. They stretched the unwinding out over a few months. So
some of that $1.3T was actually accumulated during the previous fiscal
year."
Here's what the establishment Republicans said about that: precisely nada.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 21, 2016 12:34 AM (noWW6)
//preview.tinyurl.com/hrqclzq
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 12:35 AM (J3phO)
OK, sort of in his defense, he got nagged to death.
I knew people who knew people. I knew people who were waiting at the wedding where they didn't show up.
The sister was late. He wanted to leave because he was not in fact instrument rated and it was going to get dark. The girl made him wait for the sister and then it got dark and then he didn't know how to fly in the dark.
The girl literally nagged him to death.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 12:35 AM (1xUj/)
the second world war was a fight between nations who tweaked designs and produced EN MASS and nations who decided every other prototype was a national imperative to bring to production and wated a LOT of time retooling and using up finite strategic metals and minerals they were scarce of.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2016 12:35 AM (SzZnW)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:35 AM (6IPEM)
Posted by: Truth at July 21, 2016 12:35 AM (OTtI3)
Linky no work Coothie
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:31 AM (z1LsB)
Just check "Gentleman's C" -- Urban Dictionary has an example.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:35 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:35 AM (6IPEM)
[piffle]
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:36 AM (0mRoj)
She goes by the name of "Emma Leigh" and she fits that description, She's pretty too. She works a lot with a guy who goes by the name of "Danny D."
You know what the "D: stands for, and it's not "Democrat."
Posted by: JoeF. at July 21, 2016 12:36 AM (8HGb7)
-Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:36 AM (0mRoj)
*HAH!*
I love that word.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:37 AM (6gk0M)
Stella Cox, my friend says.
Now, she's done some pretty rough stuff, you know, getting her start as a new "star". Just don't think about that, my friend says.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:37 AM (DW+jj)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:20 AM (3ZoRf)
Ooh, sounds good. I like horror. And not just looking at Hillary, I also like more subtle horror.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 21, 2016 12:37 AM (+lVUW)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 21, 2016 12:38 AM (GdFQh)
324
301 I can't stay up because I have to rise at the crack of dawn tomorrow to have knee surgery.
It's not major - no overnight stay - but I am a little nervous... a few prayers would be appreciated.
Good night horde.
Posted by: DonnaV (a white) (whitely
brandishing ampersands and so there) at July 21, 2016
12:
Protip, Donna. Marketh the offending knee with a magic marker, saying like "it's THIS knee that hurts".
You're welcome.
Posted by: tubal at July 21, 2016 12:32 AM (d6TTt)
Not a bad idea. Thoughts and prayers, Donna -- but mostly hoping your surgeon is a total pro....
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:38 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 12:38 AM (mRvs9)
currency" on. A default would be the only way to save the currency, but
that probably won't be allowed to happen, so they will print to the sky
and take the whole monetary system down.
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Before the market-ticker went dark, he used to write about how that's not possible in a debt based system. Or rather noted that those trying to do it kept failing and wondering why. The problem, as I understand it, is if you expand the money supply by issuing debt, the act of paying off the debt with interest takes out more currency than the original issuance put in. And the more debt you issue, the faster currency gets sucked out of the system.
Now, if you can push interest rates negative, that problem goes away, but then anyone with any sense pulls their money out of the banks and puts it in their mattress (or some other form they find suitable for hiding value from the system). Sure you can make paper money illegal, but at some point all the fucking around destroys everyone's confidence in your paper/electron currency and the whole thing collapses anyway.
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 21, 2016 12:38 AM (3Liv/)
He was the only one who was really handsome too.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 21, 2016 12:38 AM (8HGb7)
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:38 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 12:38 AM (mRvs9)
You get a tan from standing in the English rain.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:39 AM (0mRoj)
-Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 21, 2016 12:38 AM (GdFQh)
Very succinct and to the point.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:39 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: the littl shyning man at July 21, 2016 12:39 AM (U6f54)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 12:39 AM (IpWJF)
Posted by: Buzzion at July 21, 2016 12:39 AM (bMG0w)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 12:39 AM (IpWJF)
Oh no. What happened? Dead battery?
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:39 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:36 AM
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[ No one knows what that word means except Slapweasel. So doesn't count]
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:40 AM (6IPEM)
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:36 AM
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[ No one knows what that word means except Slapweasel. So doesn't count]
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:40 AM (6IPEM)
[does too]
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:40 AM (0mRoj)
Best wishes dear. Hope to see you on the dance floor at another WIMOMEE in the near future.
T
Posted by: Farmer at July 21, 2016 12:40 AM (o/90i)
"It is always tempting to impute
unlikely virtues to the cute."
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He also described the Kennedys as ".. sewer trout who managed to swim upstream into American political life."
Of course, the Clintons weren't on the scene so far, so he hadn't seen anything yet.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 12:41 AM (J3phO)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:41 AM (hscyr)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 12:41 AM (IpWJF)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:41 AM (3ZoRf)
debt. Flat-out declare any debt issued since the founding of the Federal
Reserve to be illegal, and raise new cash by auctioning off 99% of
Federal lands for non-Federal-Reserve-Notes (since Federal Reserve Notes
are backed by the National Debt). When this is done, swap the new cash
for old at whatever exchange rate people see fit.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:18 AM (EzgxV)
And we will do that when they outlaw fractional reserve and go back to specie backed money.
Otherwise we have an Argentinian "Austral" situation - a default and immediate run-up of debt all over again with a new fiat currency. Leading to a second, greater hyperinflation and default.
(buying a fist-full of Austral coins at some diversity fair made me first wonder about the mechanism of inflation, hard currency and fractional banking)
Posted by: Kindltot at July 21, 2016 12:41 AM (ry34m)
But I, uh, my friend knows who Danny D. is too. Skinny Brit dude with, well, you know. I, uh, my friend would just like to shake his hand. Maybe salute.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:41 AM (DW+jj)
Posted by: Brian Balderdash at July 21, 2016 12:42 AM (CDpC4)
Got tagged with [no RNC stuff]
Granted, I was intentionally messing around.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 21, 2016 12:42 AM (KRwzj)
Hyapatia Lee is a bad one on the work computer.
Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 12:42 AM (mRvs9)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:42 AM (6IPEM)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 21, 2016 12:42 AM (ucDmr)
I see your piffle and raise you a rubbish
Posted by: Brian Balderdash at July 21, 2016 12:42 AM (CDpC4)
I am going all in with Poppycock!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:43 AM (3ZoRf)
What's with all the hate for HR Puffnstuff?!
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:41 AM (hscyr)
Aside from that damned earwig theme song and the skeevy colors, nothing.
Although I have to say it was preferable to that fucking Purple Dinosaur.
Posted by: tubal at July 21, 2016 12:43 AM (d6TTt)
Here's how I titled a Bing Crosby song in my music library:
Don't Fence Me In [featuring The Andrews Sisters]
Here's how iTunes titled it:
Don't Fence Me In (With The Andrews Sisters)
Makes a world of difference!
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 12:43 AM (aFQtB)
Posted by: president o'bumbles at July 21, 2016 12:44 AM (RmrGn)
or just default outight. WIth the former, you have piles of worthless
"money". With the latter, you have zero money. Same thing, you have
nothing, it's just whether that 0 is piles of cash, or no pile.
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The important part, exposing the government's total inability to meet its promises, is the same either way. Technically a default doesn't completely annihilate the money supply as there will be some people who are above water and could conceivably conduct trade amongst themselves while everything else goes to shit. If you have cash and the ability to defend it at that point, you're going to be able to buy a lot of existing stuff at greatly reduced prices if you're interested.
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 21, 2016 12:44 AM (3Liv/)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:44 AM (6IPEM)
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 21, 2016 12:44 AM (hVdx9)
Hyapatia Lee is a bad one on the work computer.
Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 12:42 AM (mRvs9)
Denise Milani. If you like brunettes. SFWish (non-nude at least.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:44 AM (3ZoRf)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread's Phone at July 21, 2016 12:44 AM (4dbPD)
Posted by: t-bird at July 21, 2016 12:07 AM (OLNwX)
I suppose you could just stick the needles in randomly, instead of following the "chi" nodes or whatever.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 12:44 AM (GSdpU)
Hyperinflation or Deflationary Depression, the choice is theirs. Print,
or just default outight. WIth the former, you have piles of worthless
"money". With the latter, you have zero money. Same thing, you have
nothing, it's just whether that 0 is piles of cash, or no pile.
Pooty-Poot and the Chicoms are making plans for the fall of the dollar
as the world reserve currency. When the shit hits the fan, they'll pull
the plug. That's when we go to shit. Fast.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:33 AM (DW+jj)
You will note that my plan (repudiate debt, auction Federal lands, swap auction proceeds for Federal Reserve Notes) is neither hyperinflationary nor deflationary.....and leaves the Feds bereft of their unconstitutional excuse to have a Bureau of Land Management and Department of the Interior.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:44 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: JoeF. at July 21, 2016 12:45 AM (8HGb7)
Posted by: just the facts, ma'am at July 21, 2016 12:45 AM (H9MG5)
Hyapatia Lee is a bad one on the work computer.
Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 12:42 AM (mRvs9)
Weeellll, there is Asphyxia Noir, and Scarlett Pain, and Bonnie Rotten. Or so I've been told.
Posted by: tubal at July 21, 2016 12:45 AM (d6TTt)
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 21, 2016 12:45 AM (3myMJ)
It's a shame people only say "Humbug!" at Christmastime.
Don't people realize that Scrooge said it all year round?
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 12:45 AM (aFQtB)
Posted by: Mitt Romney at July 21, 2016 12:45 AM (MLfDH)
Posted by: Blanco Basura
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Ugh. Be very careful to not overheat. Beg/borrow/steal any container that you can to refill on the way. Also, turn heater on full blast.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 12:45 AM (J3phO)
-Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:43 AM (3ZoRf)
*Shows a full balderdash*
Thanks for playing, fellas!
*hauls in the pot*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:45 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:44 AM (6IPEM)
Piffle is what you say when something goes wrong without going into "Damn" or "Shit".
If you take the Blazing Saddles definition of "Harrumph" it could be looked at as assent.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:45 AM (3ZoRf)
Posted by: Codswallop at July 21, 2016 12:46 AM (1xUj/)
Don't people realize that Scrooge said it all year round?
Posted by: RKae
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Bah!
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 12:46 AM (J3phO)
388 For anyone who likes Danielle Colby from American pickers, she's a burlesque dancer that goes by the name Dannie Diesel.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 21, 2016 12:44 AM (hVdx9)
Does she still do that? Because there was that girl on Pawn Stars who got fired off the show but still worked at the shop because she used to be a Suicide Girl.
Posted by: Buzzion at July 21, 2016 12:46 AM (bMG0w)
I noticed they didn't say anything about getting him back again.
Posted by: Socratease at July 21, 2016 12:46 AM (2GbWn)
-Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:43 AM (3ZoRf)
*Shows a full balderdash*
Thanks for playing, fellas!
*hauls in the pot*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:45 AM (6gk0M)
Nice.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:47 AM (3ZoRf)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 12:27 AM (zc3Db)
Or his sister, when there was a push to "give " her Hillary's senate seat. They asked her why she thought she should get the seat and she came up with the brilliant idea that she should get it because she was JFK's daughter. Even liberal New Yorkers couldn't stomach that one.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 21, 2016 12:47 AM (+lVUW)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 12:41 AM (IpWJF)
Suckage.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:47 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 21, 2016 12:47 AM (MNgU2)
So, Fed monetizes $100 of Uncle debt. Uncle pays 1 cent interest on that debt. The Fed turns that 1 cent back over to Uncle as "profit".
In reality, the Fed takes its operating costs out, which keeps the money in circulation. Some of that cost is actually paying Treasury for the newly printed money, and a tiny fraction is paid back to the banks as "dividends" on the "stock" they buy in the Fed.
IOW, if add Uncle and the Fed's balance sheets together, the interest on monetized debt cancels.
This solves the problem of interest taking monetary base out of the system. They all do it via some means. WIth the ECB, it's done in a more Byzantine fashion.
The "profit" returned is officially dubbed "interest on Federal Reserve Notes outstanding". They structure it as the Fed has to "pay a fee" for the privilege of handling US currency.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:48 AM (DW+jj)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 12:48 AM (IpWJF)
-Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:43 AM (3ZoRf)
*Shows a full balderdash*
Thanks for playing, fellas!
*hauls in the pot*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:45 AM (6gk0M)
Not so fast.
*drops a bunkum and a tommyrot*
*mic drop*
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:48 AM (0mRoj)
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Crap. I denounce myself, but I thought Harrumph was a Winnie the Pooh reference.
I need to watch Blazing Saddles.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:48 AM (6IPEM)
Posted by: Brian Balderdash at July 21, 2016 12:42 AM (CDpC4)<<<
Blatherskite.
Posted by: Gizmoduck at July 21, 2016 12:48 AM (H9MG5)
Now, if you can push interest rates negative, that problem goes away, but then anyone with any sense pulls their money out of the banks and puts it in their mattress (or some other form they find suitable for hiding value from the system). Sure you can make paper money illegal, but at some point all the fucking around destroys everyone's confidence in your paper/electron currency and the whole thing collapses anyway.
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 21, 2016 12:38 AM (3Liv/)
The problem with the above reasoning from the market ticker (at least, so far as I see it) is that it is assuming that the monetary authorities can control interest rates. But that is historically untrue. Central banks can exercise a little bit of control of interest rates at the periphery but they cannot fight the market for very long. When the market wants to move one way on interest rates it's pretty much all over for the central banks.
And the point you make about negative interest rates is important. With low interest rates, or negative, there is very little need for a banking system for individuals. Lowering interest rates as low as we have them now (so much as authorities are able to) only serves to remove the reasons for the very existence of banks for individual savers. Runs on banks become that much more likely, which are the soft spots that banks are always possible victims of, and that takes away from the stability of the banking system, as a whole, which makes the banking industry even less desirable to use.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 12:48 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:48 AM (6gk0M)
Vera, Red 35, was a two seat version.*
Connie/Pick became T-4012 and originally had a photo-recon nose.**
FE-110***
FE-111****
Wilma Jeane was one of four ME-262s equipped with the 50mm cannon. On ferry flight to Cherbourg suffered a severe engine vibration, German pilot bailed out, and plane crashed. Only loss of Operation Lusty.
Four other ME-262s were listed on the ferry flight to Cherbourg via Melun.
To add confusion 'What Was It' was a second B-1a used by Watson's men. But it never apparently flew to Cherbourg. This might be the one they 'borrowed' from the RAF who had their own version of Operation Lusty.
* This might be the Lichtfield plane.
** 4012 was used in comparison flights with the P-80. Plane was rebuilt by Hughes Aircraft and FE-111's fighter nose was attached. Now on display at Planes of Fame.
*** FE-110 is on display at Wright-Patterson.
**** FE-111with T-4012's nose went to the Smithsonian.
But the first ME-262 to fall into US hands was FE-711. The German test pilot defected with the plane as soon as his family was behind Allied lines. This is the plane that is bare metal with all the checkers on the fuselage from the use of filler. Crashed near Xenia, OH.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 12:49 AM (GYSvp)
I need to watch Blazing Saddles."
-Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:48 AM (6IPEM)
No need for denunciation.
...Oh Bother.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:50 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Slapweasel
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Yup. It just means "nonsense."
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 12:51 AM (aFQtB)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 21, 2016 12:51 AM (z1LsB)
Is that a for real thing? Is that the girl who stays behind and calls everyone before the idiots show up and knows all the things and makes all the plans?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 12:51 AM (1xUj/)
You can think of that as offsetting some of the interest Uncle pays as well.
There are a number of ways you can think about this. In short, there has to be a way to keep the interest from sucking the created money out of the system. And this is how that is done. Uncle, the federal govt, gets the benefit of the money creation, essentially as cancelling the interest payments on the monetized portion of the debt he owes.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:51 AM (DW+jj)
I'll bet you they could have if they thought there was going to be some nice rent-seeking opportunities for themselves in it.
Posted by: Socratease at July 21, 2016 12:51 AM (2GbWn)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:51 AM (6gk0M)
Crap. I denounce myself, but I thought Harrumph was a Winnie the Pooh reference.
I need to watch Blazing Saddles.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:48 AM (6IPEM)
It would be a good idea, if only to see what epople mean when they quote it here so much. Tip: do not watch with someone of the modern vaporish constitution- for their safety.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:52 AM (3ZoRf)
Yeah, probably not.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:52 AM (6IPEM)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:52 AM (3ZoRf)
Indeed. Otherwise you'll need fainting couches and extra sets of pearls for clutching.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:53 AM (0mRoj)
Tomorrow.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 21, 2016 12:53 AM (RmrGn)
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 21, 2016 12:44 AM (hVdx9)
Does she still do that? Because there was that girl on Pawn Stars who got fired off the show but still worked at the shop because she used to be a Suicide Girl.
Posted by: Buzzion
****
Different rules for different shows I guess because she still does both to the best of my knowledge.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 21, 2016 12:53 AM (hVdx9)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:54 AM (6gk0M)
Missed all the fireworks.
But on the upside only 44 more days to college elbows.
Oh. And football too.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 21, 2016 12:54 AM (08Znv)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 12:41 AM (IpWJF)
Just drain the radiator, it'll cool off in no time.
Posted by: Pizza Historian at July 21, 2016 12:54 AM (SEFXb)
There was also the Dornier flying wing that was supposed to be built, but yeah, the Salamander was flown and for a good pilot it was considered a good combat craft
If you look up German Jets 1945 you will find an amphigorey of odd designs.
This one, the Lippisch P.13B coal fired ramjet design proposal, is not the oddest. I mean, besides its configuration, and the fact that it was to use soft, brown coal as a fuel source.
http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=1565
Posted by: Kindltot at July 21, 2016 12:55 AM (ry34m)
*drops a bunkum and a tommyrot*
*mic drop*
Posted by: Insomniac
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What a lot of bosh.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 12:55 AM (J3phO)
vessel large enough to be called a 'ship' nuclear powered. Because not
having to fuel up at routine intervals gives a tactical advantage, of
course."
Deploy all the way across the Pacific at flank speed and arrive in an immediately combat-ready condition.
Also: the decompounding of logistics expense from having to pay for fewer oilers and their crews. This somehow never gets thought of in the Congressional and Pentagonal lifecycle cost studies.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 21, 2016 12:56 AM (noWW6)
"Mongo is merely pawn in game of life."
"The ***** is near" "He says the sheriff is near."
"Screw you, I work for Mel Brooks."
"Baby please, I am not from Havana!"
"It's twew, it's twew!"
"They said you was hung!" "And they was right!"
"More beans Mr. Taggert?" "I'd say you've had enough!"
"That's Hedley!"
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 12:56 AM (3ZoRf)
Coolant leak. Killing time waiting for the pig to cool off so I can limp the four miles home.
Posted by: Blanco Basura
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Ugh. Be very careful to not overheat. Beg/borrow/steal any container
that you can to refill on the way. Also, turn heater on full blast.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 12:45 AM (J3phO)
Fiancee had "coolant problem" that turned out to be a cracked radiator. When we fixed the radiator, it had a problem where it surged and lagged, surged and lagged.....analysis said, "dead spaces in coolant system" -- pursuing that, I noted the coolant had little oily polka dots --> blown head gasket. Do not let coolant go to steam.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 12:56 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 12:57 AM (aFQtB)
In my defense I acknowledged that you would know a fuckton more than I.
I did grow up about ten miles away from Willow Grove, PA, so I did see one of the ME-262s on a fairly regular basis.
They had a Delta Dart, too.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 12:57 AM (1xUj/)
I like that dude, even though he sets little traps for the ignorant... lol. I still get a kick out of it.
Poor chemjeff. He really, really liked cheese.
...and Fapplebee's
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 12:58 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 12:58 AM (IpWJF)
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 21, 2016 12:59 AM (Od14x)
Posted by: Blanco Basura
****
You can always pee in it.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 21, 2016 12:59 AM (hVdx9)
So all total, this means that roughly $4.3T of Uncle debt is "interest free", because the Fed returns the interest collected to Uncle. Less its own operating expenses and the other shit it pays out to other entities.
The more money printed, the less net interest Uncle pays on his debt.
They do it in a convoluted way, but when you add Uncle and the Fed together, you see how it all cancels. The real expense of running the Fed and physically printing the money and all that, would then be a direct expense of Uncle rather than hidden in the separate "Federal Reserve" entity.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:59 AM (DW+jj)
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Nah, no need for any so sorries. He's an alpha like you. He can take it.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:59 AM (6IPEM)
"We didn't have a chance to wash up after our weekly cross burning."
"Hello boys, how are you?"
"We'll work up a number 6 on 'em."
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:00 AM (3ZoRf)
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Glad you threw in the "probably" because I'd have Roadhouse, Princess Bride, Raising Arizona higher on the list.
YMMV.
Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 01:00 AM (dzPJC)
The way the Fed works, and all central bank system works, is the
"profit" from monetizing the debt is returned to the sovereign, in our
case, Uncle.
So, Fed monetizes $100 of Uncle debt. Uncle pays 1
cent interest on that debt. The Fed turns that 1 cent back over to
Uncle as "profit".
In reality, the Fed takes its operating
costs out, which keeps the money in circulation. Some of that cost is
actually paying Treasury for the newly printed money, and a tiny
fraction is paid back to the banks as "dividends" on the "stock" they
buy in the Fed.
IOW, if add Uncle and the Fed's balance sheets together, the interest on monetized debt cancels.
This solves the problem of interest taking monetary base out of the
system. They all do it via some means. WIth the ECB, it's done in a more
Byzantine fashion.
The "profit" returned is officially dubbed
"interest on Federal Reserve Notes outstanding". They structure it as
the Fed has to "pay a fee" for the privilege of handling US currency.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 12:48 AM (DW+jj)
Not that this makes anything you said less true, but I was referring to greenbacks when I said "Federal Reserve Notes" -- you know, the slips of paper with dead Presidents printed on 'em with "Federal Reserve Note" printed across the top.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 01:00 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 01:01 AM (IpWJF)
Love,
Cleveland"
-Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 21, 2016 12:59 AM (Od14x)
Love that thought! Please allow me to expound upon it...
Suck it NBA!!!
Suck it American League!!!
-Straight Outta' C-Town
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:01 AM (6gk0M)
>>> If you take the Blazing Saddles definition of "Harrumph" it could be looked at as assent.
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Crap. I denounce myself, but I thought Harrumph was a Winnie the Pooh reference.
I need to watch Blazing Saddles.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:48 AM (6IPEM)
You need to watch Blazing Saddles.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 01:02 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 12:58 AM (IpWJF)
Ok, just rev it up while cranking up the AC, and it'll cool off faster!
Posted by: Pizza Historian at July 21, 2016 01:02 AM (SEFXb)
YMMV.
And everyone always quotes two lines from Idiocracy.
I want to talk about what is under-memed. Not enough people quote "Thank You For Smoking" and it's all full of all the best lines.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:03 AM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 12:39 AM (0mRoj)
It's not tan, it's rust. (born and raised in Vancouver, same thing)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 01:03 AM (GSdpU)
-Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 12:59 AM (6IPEM)
Yeah, of course he can. I'm just getting right with God in front of everybody, I guess.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:03 AM (6gk0M)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3-vqYvTXjc
Posted by: Obakeinu at July 21, 2016 01:04 AM (ry4ab)
so far as I see it) is that it is assuming that the monetary authorities
can control interest rates. But that is historically untrue. Central
banks can exercise a little bit of control of interest rates at the
periphery but they cannot fight the market for very long. When the
market wants to move one way on interest rates it's pretty much all over
for the central banks.
---
The ticker guy would definitely agree with you about the central banks' lack of control. He's suggested they may actually be following the market. I think they might be bullshitting the market into keeping rates low but can't directly force it to do so (they can flood the system with currency, but they can't control where it goes once it's out of their hands). And if I was unclear, he certainly wouldn't advocate that they try.
I think the example he made was of Japan who's been at the QE trough for over 20 years and is failing to inflate their way out of their debt.
As discussed above, sooner or later low interest rates and the general games-playing is going to convince enough people to pull their value out of circulation, which will lower the dollar value of stuff generally, which when applied to debt means interest rates will rise regardless of the preferences of governments and banks.
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 21, 2016 01:04 AM (3Liv/)
Posted by: OldDominionMom at July 21, 2016 01:04 AM (GzDYP)
There are nine ME-262s left in the world. Six A-1a or A-1b fighters and three B-1a. The South African B-1a is actually a B-1a/U1 night fighter.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:04 AM (GYSvp)
Why aren't we bombing them?
With food marked "Courtesy of Capitalism, enjoy."
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 21, 2016 01:05 AM (3myMJ)
Tonight I watched "The Man in the Glass Booth" for the umpteenth time.
I loaned it to a 20-something kid at work, and he quoted it back at me for the next six months!
"Just one clear day to enjoy!"
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:05 AM (aFQtB)
I hate all the fucking tattoos. She's a nice looking woman who HAD beautiful fair skin. Sorry, I gotta thing for brunettes, blue eyes, and fair skin. Fair skin is a polite way of saying really really white. I'm racist.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 21, 2016 01:06 AM (2EbTQ)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:07 AM (3ZoRf)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:03 AM (6gk0M)
Showoff.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 01:07 AM (0mRoj)
The Fed has returned $96.6B to Uncle over the last fiscal year, roughly ten months.
IOW, the Fed's "profit" is over $100B for a year. The Fed would be the most profitable "bank" in the world. This is what happens when you can "print money". And most of it is electronic anyway. On paper, the Fed makes a shit ton of money.
And it's given right back to the Treasury.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:07 AM (DW+jj)
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Right on!
Next time you're tempted to get a tattoo, people, get a t-shirt instead. If you can wear your dumb "art" on a t-shirt for 5 years, then think about a tattoo.
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:07 AM (aFQtB)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 01:02 AM
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And now Airplane! too apparently. I don't do well with dated movies or animation. I'll try.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 01:08 AM (rc7Bk)
-Caddyshack
-The Big Lebowski
-Anything with Ahhhhnold
...you get the picture.
...no pun intended until afterward.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:08 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 21, 2016 01:09 AM (+lVUW)
Posted by: L, Elle
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Hell, I still watch Harold Lloyd movies!
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:09 AM (aFQtB)
Why aren't we bombing them?
With food marked "Courtesy of Capitalism, enjoy."
Posted by: Meremortal
Considering the care our current admininstration has with supplying Yazidis with water ...
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 01:09 AM (VY8H5)
-Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 01:07 AM (0mRoj)
I know, right?
I'm a jerk.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:09 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 01:02 AM
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And now Airplane! too apparently. I don't do well with dated movies or animation. I'll try.
You're fine. Each of them has about two good lines and they're not good movies.
Yeah, I know I'm going get my Man Card called out over this, but I'll bring it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:10 AM (1xUj/)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 01:08 AM (rc7Bk)
I love Airplane! but if you want to get the full juice, watch "High and the Mighty"- a John Wayne movie that was ripped off in Zero Hour, whose rights were bought in order to make Airplane!
Plus, it is a John Wayne movie.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:10 AM (3ZoRf)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:10 AM (6gk0M)
-Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 21, 2016 01:07 AM (0mRoj)
I know, right?
I'm a jerk.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:09 AM (6gk0M)
Aren't we all.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2016 01:10 AM (0mRoj)
Yeah, I know I'm going get my Man Card called out over this, but I'll bring it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:10 AM (1xUj/)
Ok, pistols at dawn, you inveterate guttersnipe! j/k
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:11 AM (3ZoRf)
One of these is the "Fed is a private bank and all the profit goes to evil bankers!!!!111!" No, the "profit" goes to the gubmint. The gubmit is the evil entity that benefits from the creation of money. :-)
Always has. No sovereign is its right mind would cede the "money creation power" to anyone else other than itself. Uncle doesn't, and never has.
It just does in a convoluted way. Me, personally I believe all the subterfuge is because they're afraid that if the people really understood how the monetary system works, they would lose faith and that system would collapse. "It's all accounting! There's nothing real there!"
So they come up with convoluted ways to do it.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:12 AM (DW+jj)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:12 AM (3ZoRf)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:13 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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I know people hate Woody Allen, but, damn! "Love & Death!" The duelling scene where they open a box containing two pistols and tell him, "Choose."
He picks up the pistols, examines them for a moment... then says, "I'll take these."
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:13 AM (aFQtB)
Yeah, I know I'm going get my Man Card called out over this, but I'll bring it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:10 AM (1xUj/)
<<<
Surely you can't be serious?
Posted by: Ted Striker at July 21, 2016 01:13 AM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 01:13 AM (dzPJC)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:12 AM (DW+jj)
Ok, I will ask the same question I have asked many times on the internet: Can you explain to me why a Gold standard is a bad thing, or at least undesireable?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:14 AM (3ZoRf)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:14 AM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 01:13 AM (dzPJC)
It really tied the room together.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2016 01:14 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:14 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Because paper beats rock?
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:15 AM (aFQtB)
"Con Air."
"I killed a girl and drove through four states wearing her head for a hat."
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:16 AM (aFQtB)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:12 AM (3ZoRf
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At this point, you're trying to movie-shame me now
jk
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 01:16 AM (rc7Bk)
YMMV.
Posted by: Chi
How bitchy but correct.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 01:16 AM (VY8H5)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2016 01:16 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 12:58 AM (IpWJF)
If you are at a mall, snag some containers of water, so you can top up the rad if it starts to get hot on the trip home.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 01:18 AM (GSdpU)
"EXcuse me, stewardess - I speak jive."
Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 01:18 AM (dzPJC)
"I killed a girl and drove through four states wearing her head for a hat."
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:16 AM (aFQtB)
That movie had major flaws. The premise always screwed me up: Because of your training, you should be held to a higher standard, so I am sentencing you to 10 years in interest of the plot.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:18 AM (3ZoRf)
"Am I to be held responsible when degenerates "micturate" upon any rug in this town, Lebowski?"
Now I have to look it up... lol.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:18 AM (6gk0M)
The problem with the above reasoning from the market ticker (at least,
so far as I see it) is that it is assuming that the monetary authorities
can control interest rates. But that is historically untrue. Central
banks can exercise a little bit of control of interest rates at the
periphery but they cannot fight the market for very long. When the
market wants to move one way on interest rates it's pretty much all over
for the central banks.
---
The ticker guy would definitely
agree with you about the central banks' lack of control. He's suggested
they may actually be following the market. I think they might be
bullshitting the market into keeping rates low but can't directly force
it to do so (they can flood the system with currency, but they can't
control where it goes once it's out of their hands). And if I was
unclear, he certainly wouldn't advocate that they try.
I think
the example he made was of Japan who's been at the QE trough for over 20
years and is failing to inflate their way out of their debt.
As
discussed above, sooner or later low interest rates and the general
games-playing is going to convince enough people to pull their value out
of circulation, which will lower the dollar value of stuff generally,
which when applied to debt means interest rates will rise regardless of
the preferences of governments and banks.
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 21, 2016 01:04 AM (3Liv/)
Here's the problem Central Bankers have -- if they move directly to hyperinflation, they will be identified, chased down, and executed. Otherwise, that's the perfect solution to their problems -- that is to say, THEIR problems that their incredibly goofball ideas about dipping their beak in everyone's water forever have lead them to.
So they have all these meetings (e.g. Davos) where they sit around a table and say, "we've made big bucks by promising everybody everything and ripping them off, but now there's not enough value in the universe to pay anyone what they think they're owed. What are we going to do?"
And a group says, "make money wastepaper!", and another group says, "you realize they know where we live, right? We do this and none of us will survive the next 60 days."
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 01:18 AM (EzgxV)
489 A movie needn't be of good quality to be quotable.
"Con Air."
"I killed a girl and drove through four states wearing her head for a hat."
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:16 AM (aFQtB)
But it needs to be of good quality to be identifiable. You give me that line and I wouldn't be able to tell you the movie. Just because you quote a movie doesn't mean it's quotable.
Posted by: Buzzion at July 21, 2016 01:18 AM (bMG0w)
Gold is good because it doesn't rust. It makes pretty jewelry. It's a universal conductor so you can use it in electronics to link anything to anything else.
Other than that it's useless and has only shamanaistic value.
People who think money should be "real" also don't mind money being based on a mineral that grows mostly under Russian and South Africa.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:18 AM (1xUj/)
With gold representing a fixed monetary base, your supply of money is fixed, or can only grow as fast as new gold can be mined. That's also a benefit. :-)
With a hard, fixed system, games cannot be played. Money cannot be created irresponsibly. But sometimes it needs to be responsibly created.
How shall I put this. "It is widely believed" that a fixed money supply causes wild swings in the economy. Inflation and then deflation, oscillating back and forth. There are arguments against that.
This is a complicated subject and anyone who claims that really know all the answers doesn't.
But at any rate, there are times when the system needs to be able to expand the money supply, quickly.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:19 AM (DW+jj)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 01:19 AM (IpWJF)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2016 01:19 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Oh, it's utterly ridiculous! Working at an airport, I know that if a plane slightly bumps into something it's over. It's not airworthy.
It's an absurd cartoon.
But I just love "Put... the... bunny... back... in... the... box."
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:20 AM (aFQtB)
You need to watch Blazing Saddles.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 01:02 AM
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And now Airplane! too apparently. I don't do well with dated movies or animation. I'll try.
You're fine. Each of them has about two good lines and they're not good movies.
Yeah, I know I'm going get my Man Card called out over this, but I'll bring it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:10 AM (1xUj/)
Blazing Saddles has quotable memes or scenes every 90 seconds throughout the movie.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 01:20 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: weft cut-loop
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Wasn't intended to be. At all.
And I will concede that Airplane should be near the top. I don't even need youtube because a lot of the quotes are running through my head right now.
Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 01:21 AM (dzPJC)
"I killed a girl and drove through four states wearing her head for a hat."
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:16 AM (aFQtB)<<<
Put. the bunneh. back. in. the. box.
Posted by: Cameron Poe at July 21, 2016 01:21 AM (H9MG5)
"Guess I picked the wrong week to quit xxxx"
"What a pisser."
"Air Israel, you are clear to taxi." (The image makes this joke.)
"Oh, why pretend? You want me to have an abortion."
"I asked the guy next to me to pinch me to make sure I was awake."
"He's up to 1000 then down to 500. He's all over the place. What an asshole!"
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:21 AM (3ZoRf)
http://stormbirds.com/squadron/planes/555.htm
Okay looking at Roy W. Brown's photo of the plane in question in Walter Boyne's Messerschmitt Me 262: Arrow to the Future on pg 59 it would be fair to call the plane 'White 35' since what I originally mistook as either Red or possibly Blue is actually the Luftwaffe camouflage. The numeral 35 is only a white outline.
T/FE-4012 Connie/Pick II has the numeral 25 as a white outline also just forward of the windscreen and just after the fairings for the RB 50/30 cameras in the nose. This photo is on pg 62 of the same book.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:22 AM (GYSvp)
Doesn't a gold standard also make it necessary to raid other countries that have gold?
Just wondering.
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:22 AM (aFQtB)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2016 01:22 AM (0mRoj)
Didn't say that earlier with all the hysteria.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 21, 2016 01:24 AM (wB8Tg)
Now I have to look it up... lol.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:18 AM (6gk0M)
That is a perfectly cromulent word.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 01:24 AM (GSdpU)
You see, the Anunnaki came to earth to mine gold. They had a real use for it, in the lore. They then created us humans as slaves, by adding their own DNA to the existing stock of dumb primates to make a little smarter slave primate, us.
And that's why we value gold, because the gods, the Anunnaki aliens all wanted it.
:-)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:24 AM (DW+jj)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:19 AM (DW+jj)
Ok, I have heard the opposite argument made: that a fixed monetary system tends to smooth out the highs and lows.
I can understand the sometimes momentary needs to expand monetary supply, but it always seems like the pluses outweigh the minuses- from what I have seen.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:24 AM (3ZoRf)
Just wondering.
Posted by: RKae
The core of Mercantilism might seem to suggest that but many countries gave up gold/metal for trivial things.
Think Rome and the Silk Road.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 01:25 AM (VY8H5)
:-)
Posted by: publius
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Wasn't that the plot of "Cowboys & Aliens"?
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:25 AM (aFQtB)
Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 01:25 AM (dzPJC)
"I DON'T ROLL ON SHABBOS!"
"You're not even Jewish, man!
..."Shomer Shabbos!"
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:26 AM (6gk0M)
516 And that's why we value gold, because the gods, the Anunnaki aliens all wanted it.
:-)
Posted by: publius
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Wasn't that the plot of "Cowboys & Aliens"?
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:25 AM (aFQtB)
Battlefield Earth.
Posted by: Buzzion at July 21, 2016 01:26 AM (bMG0w)
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:25 AM (aFQtB)
Yes.
Though one of these stories is considerably older than the other (overinterpreted or not).
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 21, 2016 01:26 AM (wB8Tg)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:26 AM (3ZoRf)
http://stormbirds.com/squadron/planes/555.htm
Yeah the images don't load. It looks like a very old web page.
There's nothing at Willow Grove any more. They decomissioned the air station and got rid of the display aircraft.
I have no idea what happened to them.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:27 AM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2016 01:27 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Maetenloch at July 21, 2016 01:27 AM (pAlYe)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:18 AM (1xUj/)
Gold can be found in damned near every country of the world. You have to work hard to produce it, which is why it has value.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 01:27 AM (GSdpU)
Posted by: tbodie at July 21, 2016 01:27 AM (2El4P)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:28 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at July 21, 2016 01:28 AM (SSiqh)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:28 AM (3ZoRf)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:10 AM (1xUj/)
<<<
Bander, do you like movies about gladiators?
Posted by: Capt. Oveur at July 21, 2016 01:28 AM (H9MG5)
Sci-fi and the conspiracy loons, the true believers, are always borrowing from each other, going back and forth.
It was Zecharia Sitchin who came up with the Anunnaki stuff, and that was before the movie.
Sitchin is just a strain of the whole "ancient aliens" stuff. It does make for some good sci-fi.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:28 AM (DW+jj)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 21, 2016 01:29 AM (MLfDH)
That was a fun movie.
Posted by: tbodie
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Now how can you get away with saying that, but I'm getting beat up for taking stupid delight in "Con Air"?
It's like there are different rules for you, Hillary!
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:30 AM (aFQtB)
And everyone I neglected to see off up thread. I'm fading myself.
Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 01:30 AM (dzPJC)
Posted by: Capt. Oveur at July 21, 2016 01:28 AM (H9MG5)
"Captain Oveur to the white phone." "No the WHITE phone."
"Ever spent any time in a turkish prison?"
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:31 AM (3ZoRf)
Conservation of Momentum. H'wood is big on conservation.
Posted by: tbodie at July 21, 2016 01:31 AM (2El4P)
533 Wasn't that the plot of "Cowboys & Aliens"?
That was a fun movie.
Posted by: tbodie
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Now how can you get away with saying that, but I'm getting beat up for taking stupid delight in "Con Air"?
It's like there are different rules for you, Hillary!
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:30 AM (aFQtB)
He didn't claim it was quotable.
Posted by: Buzzion at July 21, 2016 01:31 AM (bMG0w)
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:31 AM (aFQtB)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:32 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:33 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: tbodie at July 21, 2016 01:33 AM (2El4P)
See? I knew that was coming. That's why I said I'd throw down my Man Card.
I will take on anyone in arm wrestling, beer chugging, Godfather quotes, or anything else that people consider manly.
Except maybe sports trivia, I'm not good at that.
I don't like Blazing Saddles or Airplane because I don't like slapstick and I will bet my Man Card on any game of skill. Except sports trivia.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:33 AM (1xUj/)
That ain't legal, neither."
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:32 AM (6gk0M)
"Mmmmm marmories are made of this..."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 01:34 AM (GSdpU)
"We're in some real pretty shit now man. Now what the fuck are we supposed to do?!" "I dunno, why don't we like a fire, sing a couple of songs. Why don't we try that?"
"I like to keep this for close encounters."
"You hit those, and it's adios muchachos."
"It doesn't matter when they're acturian, baby!"
"Bug hunt."
"I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:34 AM (3ZoRf)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 01:19 AM (IpWJF)
Good job.
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 21, 2016 01:34 AM (3myMJ)
Not just the creation of money, but the government cannot deficit spend at will, otherwise its gold supply will be sucked dry (as was happening in 73 and why Nixon fully released the dollar from any connection to gold).
But sometimes it needs to be responsibly created.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:19 AM (DW+jj)
Not very often ... and the few times when one might want to create money for a good reason (there are so few of these good reasons floating around) are far outweighed by the integrity of the monetary system being insured by the gold peg. There is little more that a monetary needs to have other than integrity and stability. When the money is strong and stable the rest of the economy is relieved of much friction and works that much better.
The only reason why people dislike the gold standard is because they want the government to be able to spend like there's no tomorrow (and to literally help to make sure that there will be no tomorrow). And the Fed types hate the gold standard because that takes all their power away, as you stated though they can still play games with bank reserve requirements and the like ... but that's not nearly as much fun as being in seemingly total control of the economy and markets (temporary as it is ... but so much fun, nonetheless).
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 01:35 AM (zc3Db)
So if Country A was running a trade surplus, it accumulated gold, while the rest of the world lost it. If you're running a net trade deficit, you'd be losing your gold supply.
Note, this would tend to make Country A inflate (more gold to "stuff"), while the rest of the world would net deflate (less stuff to gold). This would tend to correct the problem, making prices go up in Country A, who would then import.
Thus the system sort of favors trade balance.
But the problem is shipping all that damn gold back and forth. So, you end up keeping it all in various vaults and then creating paper to represent it. You're now creating a current against gold, essentially.
And you start having fractional reserves. When you're playing with gold "certificates", you can start creating more of them than than you have gold. And you've just started creating money, essentially.
We've done away with the gold and just keep the paper with nothing to back it, other than promises.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:35 AM (DW+jj)
-Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 01:34 AM (GSdpU)
Now you're just 'wierding me out'.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:35 AM (6gk0M)
publius:
Doesn't a gold standard also make it necessary to raid other countries that have gold?
Just wondering.
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:22 AM (aFQtB)
The best thing about a gold standard is that there are consequences for randomly fucking around with the value of currency. That quite a few of them are bad is a comparatively minor cost compared to the horror of behavior when there are no consequences.
Remember that Jefferson was widely ascribed to have said, "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of
their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and
corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of
all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent
their Fathers conquered.... I believe that banking institutions are more
dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.... The issuing power
should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it
properly belongs."
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 01:35 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Buzzion at July 21, 2016 01:35 AM (bMG0w)
Posted by: RKae at July 21, 2016 01:25 AM (aFQtB)
That was a surprisingly fun movie.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 01:36 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 21, 2016 01:36 AM (Od14x)
Posted by: Buzzion
I don't mind being unpopular, but that's a low blow dead boy.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:37 AM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Heh.
Posted by: Canadian Palladium miner at July 21, 2016 01:38 AM (J3phO)
http://wingsoffreedommuseum.org/
Click on the Our Aircraft tab. Then click on the Relocated tab to find the ME-262.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:38 AM (GYSvp)
Posted by: Buzzion at July 21, 2016 01:38 AM (bMG0w)
That was a fun movie.
Posted by: tbodie
Yep, it was! I don't care what her politics are, Olivia Wilde is gorgeous. Kind of a so so actress but she seems to show up in movies I like; Cowboys & Aliens and Rush (that F1 movie back in 2013).
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 21, 2016 01:38 AM (2EbTQ)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:33 AM (1xUj/)<<<
You do not come to an ONT and talk to a man like Capt. Oveur like that!
Posted by: Fredo Corleone at July 21, 2016 01:39 AM (H9MG5)
Gold is good because it doesn't rust. It makes pretty jewelry. It's a universal conductor so you can use it in electronics to link anything to anything else.
Other than that it's useless and has only shamanaistic value.
People who think money should be "real" also don't mind money being based on a mineral that grows mostly under Russian and South Africa.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:18 AM (1xUj/)
Gold has all the important attributes of real money. That is the real value of gold and that is a very important thing to have around. There is nothing shamanistic or unreal about gold's natural utility as "money". Gold is about the only thing we know of that has all the most important attributes of money and exists in the correct proportions to serve as such.
Gold's utility in jewelry or fillings or anything else has nothing to do with its main value as "money".
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 01:39 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Canadian Palladium miner at July 21, 2016 01:38 AM (J3phO)
You! You are the cheap so&so that stole the catalytic converter off my truck! Miner, my ass.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 01:40 AM (GSdpU)
If you can travel between planets, well there is a simple solution. Take a solar-powered laser and melt a nickel-iron asteroid. You will then have gold, silver, platinum, and other 'precious' metals literally running out your ears in less than six months.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:40 AM (GYSvp)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 01:19 AM (IpWJF)
Is it a stick shift? Try just putting it in 1st and cranking the starter.As long as the battery's good, it should get you there. Otherwise, crank up that AC to cool it down, with high revs.
Posted by: Japanese Whaler Misi Naru at July 21, 2016 01:41 AM (SEFXb)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:33 AM (1xUj/)
Now see, I am exactly the opposite. I do not really like Godfather. It is eminently quotable and exquisitely done, but I just do not like crime family dramas.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:41 AM (3ZoRf)
^ what he said ^
Posted by: Chi
I wouldn't do that.
He's likely luring you into a man-trap.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 01:42 AM (VY8H5)
-My apologies to a polite and fruitful member of the horde for my drunken vitriol. You did nothing to deserve it and I sincerely apologize to you, Sir.
Continue about your evening, as I need no reciprocity from yourself.
Simply know that I over-reacted to one of your posts, months ago, and I apologize.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:42 AM (6gk0M)
People like gold standard because you can trade in your currency for something valuable.
Gold is good because it doesn't rust. It makes pretty jewelry. It's a
universal conductor so you can use it in electronics to link anything
to anything else.
Other than that it's useless and has only shamanaistic value.
People who think money should be "real" also don't mind money being
based on a mineral that grows mostly under Russian and South Africa.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:18 AM (1xUj/)
Gold has all the important attributes of real money. That is the
real value of gold and that is a very important thing to have around.
There is nothing shamanistic or unreal about gold's natural utility as
"money". Gold is about the only thing we know of that has all the most
important attributes of money and exists in the correct proportions to
serve as such.
Gold's utility in jewelry or fillings or anything else has nothing to do with its main value as "money".
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 01:39 AM (zc3Db)
If you're talking about commodities speculation, you might just buy yourself a brick of Erbium.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 01:42 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:40 AM (GYSvp)
The John Ringo "Troy" books capture this point as well.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:43 AM (3ZoRf)
You! You are the cheap so&so that stole the catalytic converter off my truck! Miner, my ass.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Yeah? Well the joke was on me. That piece of crap was made using platinum.
Posted by: Canadian Palladium miner at July 21, 2016 01:43 AM (J3phO)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 01:44 AM (EzgxV)
There is a bank. It has loans. It doesn't have anywhere near the cash, the physical money, to cover all the deposits. The loans are good. But there's a panic or something. Depositors start withdrawing, and the bank is under pressure for cash.
Now, what must it do to get that cash? Beg, borrow, or sell against it's assets, those loans. This selling pressure will drive the market value of that stuff down, fast.
This is known as a crisis of liquidity. There's not enough money, physical cash to sastisfy demand. The system shits the bed for want of money.
Enter the central bank. It simple monetizes the assets of that bank, creating the physical cash to sastify the demand.
This works only because the loans, the assets are good.
If they're not, it's not a liquidity problem, it's a solvency problem.
Creating money in a solvency problem is bad, it's wanton creation of money.
Guess what the Crash of '08 was? Yes, a solvency crisis.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:44 AM (DW+jj)
Rush 1991
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 21, 2016 01:46 AM (Od14x)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:43 AM (3ZoRf)
<<<
Why Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave.
Posted by: Doc Holliday at July 21, 2016 01:46 AM (H9MG5)
I have a personal rule regarding actors/actresses:
I won't seek out your opinion on anything, if you feel the need to tell me your opinion I will then avoid you and all your work.
My wife complains occasionally that I rarely take her to see movies.
Posted by: tbodie at July 21, 2016 01:46 AM (2El4P)
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*ponders a large molten glob of metal hurtling through space*
What could go wrong?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 01:46 AM (J3phO)
"I can understand the sometimes momentary needs to expand monetary supply, but it always seems like the pluses outweigh the minuses- from what I have seen. "
Totally agree. The problem with "sometimes momentary needs to expand money supply" is that you have to put someone in charge of it, i.e. government/politicians/bankers/whoever. It might work for a while but eventually politics and greed will take over. Better to have an independent money standard they can't f*ck with. As Churchill (allegedly, all his quotes are alleged I guess) said about democracy, "worst form of government except for all the others".
Posted by: FOAF at July 21, 2016 01:48 AM (p0JMG)
Posted by: Doc Holliday at July 21, 2016 01:46 AM (H9MG5)
"See we started a game we never got to finish... Play for Blood?"
"Poor soul. You were just too high strung."
That might be Kilmer's best movie.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:48 AM (3ZoRf)
Is it a stick shift? Try just putting it in 1st and cranking the starter.As long as the battery's good, it should get you there. Otherwise, crank up that AC to cool it down, with high revs.
Posted by: Japanese Whaler Misi Naru at July 21, 2016 01:41 AM (SEFXb)
Now that there is a good way to turn the starter to slag. Drive it on the starter to clear an intersection, or to get off a level crossing before the Twentieth Century Limited comes barreling through? Fine. Try to go a mile on it? No way, Jose. Besides, his car runs. If he cranks it, the engine will start.
Grab some bottles of water. Start the engine, and allow it to idle. Trickle water into the rad slowly, but enough to outpace the leak. That avoid having a big slug of cold water hitting the hot block all at once, which could make it crack. Once rad is full, put cap on loosely, so it won't build pressure, and drive on home at normal speed.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 01:48 AM (GSdpU)
I'll give you a classic case of when you need to be able to create money, and fast.
There is a bank. It has loans. It doesn't have anywhere near the cash,
the physical money, to cover all the deposits. The loans are good. But
there's a panic or something. Depositors start withdrawing, and the bank
is under pressure for cash.
Now, what must it do to get that
cash? Beg, borrow, or sell against it's assets, those loans. This
selling pressure will drive the market value of that stuff down, fast.
This is known as a crisis of liquidity. There's not enough money,
physical cash to sastisfy demand. The system shits the bed for want of
money.
Enter the central bank. It simple monetizes the assets of that bank, creating the physical cash to sastify the demand.
This works only because the loans, the assets are good.
If they're not, it's not a liquidity problem, it's a solvency problem.
Creating money in a solvency problem is bad, it's wanton creation of money.
Guess what the Crash of '08 was? Yes, a solvency crisis.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:44 AM (DW+jj)
The reason that CBs are trying to boost the stock market is to masquerade a solvency crisis as a liquidity crisis. The fact is, every paper asset is worth less than half of what it trades at. Buy rocks, real estate, art, or metals -- but anything that has a "market" and a "futures market" is rigged.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 01:48 AM (EzgxV)
What could go wrong?
The endless sadness?
Posted by: The Silver Surfer at July 21, 2016 01:48 AM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:49 AM (GYSvp)
He's likely luring you into a man-trap."
-Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 01:42 AM (VY8H5)
^This Fuckin' Guy^
I'm actually going through notes when this fucker in on the Food Thread.
It isn't a rue, it is a slurry, damnit!
Thanks to this bastard, I also made my first "pho" last week. I made it with beef knuckle, oxtail, rice noodles, bean sprouts, onions and herbs MINUS CILANTRO.
Thanks for the recipe, Amigo!
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:49 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 01:49 AM (T/cxb)
*ponders a large molten glob of metal hurtling through space*
What could go wrong?
Posted by: Mike Hammer
-----------------
Man, what are you doing with a gun in space?
Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 01:50 AM (dzPJC)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:40 AM (GYSvp)
The problem with *all* of these "arguments" is that everybody is trying to solve an incomplete equation that has nothing but variables.
In a language they don't know.
I don't know if there were or are aliens visiting, and I don't know why they'd be doing it, or whether they'd tell the truth about why they were doing it.
Unfortunately, everyone is required by law to have a *firm* opinion on everything.
"I don't know" has been shadowbanned.
If someone asked me what a hypothetical alien's motivation would be for something, about the only answer I could possibly have is "the fuck would I know?"
I don't even know why humans do what they do about 95% of the time.
/rant
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 21, 2016 01:50 AM (wB8Tg)
Simply know that I over-reacted to one of your posts, months ago, and I apologize.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:42 AM (6gk0M)
Everything's good.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 01:50 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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And, as I said earlier, heater on full blast.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 01:50 AM (J3phO)
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 21, 2016 01:50 AM (2EbTQ)
Movies about the Clintons in other words ...
Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 21, 2016 01:51 AM (AoK0a)
/rant
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith
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I don't know why I do things 95% of the time.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 01:52 AM (J3phO)
Made it home, now drinking.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 01:49 AM (T/cxb)
Yay! *High five* Good to hear.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 01:52 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:52 AM (GYSvp)
What could go wrong?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 01:46 AM (J3phO)
There is an obscure Jules Verne novel, written in a comic vein, "The Hunt For the Meteor". The meteor being solid gold, and some hundred meters in diameter. Worth looking for.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 01:53 AM (GSdpU)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:48 AM (3ZoRf)
<<<
"Maybe poker's just not your game Ike. I know! Let's have a spelling contest!"
"Oh. Johnny, I apologize; I forgot you were there. You may go now."
(with a Cowboy saying he's too trunk, and seeing double to shoot someone) "I have two guns, one for each of ya. "
(and obviously!) I'm your huckleberry.
Posted by: Doc Holliday at July 21, 2016 01:53 AM (H9MG5)
SMOD is coming, we're all going to be rich!
Posted by: tbodie at July 21, 2016 01:53 AM (2El4P)
Posted by: Adriane the Pop Psychology Critic ... at July 21, 2016 01:53 AM (AoK0a)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:52 AM (GYSvp)
Ahh, victi... I mean subjects.
Guests, I meant guests.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 21, 2016 01:53 AM (wB8Tg)
Posted by: Blanco Basura
---------------
*tinkling noises of cooling metal*
Posted by: Blanco's ride at July 21, 2016 01:54 AM (J3phO)
-Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:52 AM (GYSvp)
I think I know what that means, but that's either sexual or cruel.
...probably both.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:54 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Mike Hammer,
*punches Mike Hammer*
I have nothing against you, I'm just curious how you react to things now.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 01:54 AM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Doc Holliday at July 21, 2016 01:46 AM (H9MG5)
"See we started a game we never got to finish... Play for Blood?"
"Poor soul. You were just too high strung."
That might be Kilmer's best movie.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:48 AM (3ZoRf
Might be one of the all time best acting performances ever. He got robbed by the Academy.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 21, 2016 01:55 AM (Od14x)
Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2016 01:55 AM (IdCqF)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 01:56 AM (VY8H5)
-Posted by: Adriane the Pop Psychology Critic ... at July 21, 2016 01:53 AM (AoK0a)
*HAH!*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:56 AM (6gk0M)
562 That is the exact opposite of good advice.
I see no indication that you're kidding, which makes that either ignorant or malicious
Posted by: MAx at July 21, 2016 01:56 AM (0uuiT)
I have nothing against you, I'm just curious how you react to things now.
SCIENCE !!!
Posted by: Adriane the Pop Psychology Critic ... at July 21, 2016 01:56 AM (AoK0a)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:56 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 01:56 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Doc Holliday at July 21, 2016 01:53 AM (H9MG5)
One of Russell's best movies too:
"A man don't have to go heeled to get the drop on a dob(?) like you."
"No!"
"See that? It says UNITED STATES MARSHALL! YOU CALLED DOWN THE THUNDER WELL NOW YOU GOT IT! Now run, you cur. Tell all the other curs the law's coming. YOU TELL THEM I'M COMING!!!!!"
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:57 AM (3ZoRf)
Posted by: Bandersnatch
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You might be in the 5% 'known' area of behavior.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2016 01:57 AM (J3phO)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:57 AM (GYSvp)
We have exactly one data point to extrapolate what other intelligent, conscious being might be like.
In most of all this alien conspiracy, I see people projecting very human like motives and world views on the aliens. :-) I wouldn't bet that a real alien would be anything like us in "thinking", however that might be.
For example, new-age hippie liberal types always imagine the aliens to be, well, new-age hippies. That is, they will save the world from the evil rightwingers or something masquerading as that.
Of course, there are "anthromorphizing" arguments, if that's a word, that all intelligent life must be human-like. I've never really bought 'em. Well, they might be true or they might not, we just don't have enough information.
I have no fucking clue what an alien would be like until I meet an actual alien.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:57 AM (DW+jj)
Posted by: tbodie at July 21, 2016 01:58 AM (2El4P)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:59 AM (3ZoRf)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:57 AM (GYSvp)
Ah, Red Planet. That was an entertaining movie, but does not survive close inspection. Mission to Mars was in the same boat.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:01 AM (3ZoRf)
-Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:57 AM (GYSvp)
Hot Nerdy Girl: "Thur Gone!"
(I thought she was hot because I was really, really hot.)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:01 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:01 AM (3ZoRf)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:57 AM (DW+jj)
Come to the Home Depot parking lot tomorrow morning at 9:00 sharp. Wear plaid, so we can recognize you.
Posted by: Manuel y Hernando at July 21, 2016 02:02 AM (GSdpU)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:02 AM (6gk0M)
That's just a standard run on a bank that you are describing. All banks are susceptible to them and there is no need to create money to take care of them. The banks can buy insurance for their depositors (or the depositors can buy it - I know its force, now, but talking about a general system where banks are not under those rules) or the depositors can be made to wait for their money that is uninsured. This is why banks used to have more tiered deposits (longer term CDs and the like) to balance out these possibilities of runs. Of course, now, in the US, these sorts of runs are close to impossible because the feral government won't let you take more than a certain amount of money out of YOUR account within a certain time without harassing you!
But, in any case, a bank run isn't solved by creating money for depositors who take their money out since the bank loses those deposits and, probably, runs at a loss from that point as the deposits are their cheapest source of funds. So I wouldn't rank this point highly on the list of why there is any great need to be able to expand money supply beyond the gold backing, especially since we know what happens to every little bit of leeway we give to any government entity ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 02:02 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 01:57 AM (3ZoRf)<<<
(after bitch slapping Billy Bob Thornton)
"You gonna do somethin'? Or are you just gonna stand there and bleed"
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 21, 2016 02:03 AM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:03 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 02:03 AM (uV2DT)
*pirouettes away*
Oh ... I hate to tell you ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFeCJx2WKa4
Posted by: Adriane the Intertube Is Full of Depressing Examples of Excellence Critic ... at July 21, 2016 02:04 AM (AoK0a)
Mission to Mars tried to be 2001 but it failed. But it did not fail in its attempt to reach Kubrick's pinnacle as badly as Interstellar managed to.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 02:04 AM (GYSvp)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 01:57 AM (GYSvp)
"Why is that toy on your head?"
"If I wear it anywhere else, it chafes."
"I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, "...I drank what?"
And no less than two Einstein jokes.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 21, 2016 02:04 AM (wB8Tg)
The Adventures of Mike Pence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOoe90tbAOI
Posted by: zombie at July 21, 2016 02:05 AM (jBuUi)
616 Kurt Russell is going to be in Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Huh.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:01 AM (3ZoRf)
Star Lord's father perhaps?
Posted by: Buzzion at July 21, 2016 02:06 AM (bMG0w)
Posted by: publius
I think most aliens are going to be algae type things on marsh surfaces, or buoyant jellyfish-type gas-giant inhabitants.
Or blog thread commenters.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 02:06 AM (VY8H5)
Posted by: Kurt Russel in Guardians of the Galaxy 2 at July 21, 2016 02:07 AM (H9MG5)
"If I wear it anywhere else, it chafes."
"I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, "...I drank what?""
And no less than two Einstein jokes.
-Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 21, 2016 02:04 AM (wB8Tg)
*HAH!*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:07 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 02:07 AM (GYSvp)
Suddenly rembering why I read the ONT a day late.
Night y'all.
Posted by: tbodie at July 21, 2016 02:08 AM (2El4P)
The US govt (and others) shit their pants realizing there were indeed some "aliens from outer space" coming here. This was right around WWII, and they were scared shitless when they discovered what was going on. They found out the aliens were sort of "herding us", taking up humans and animals and doing all sorts of experiments on.
They made no effort to communicate and rebuffed all our efforts to communicate with them. We began to pester them in their efforts. That pissed them off.
As this one goes, sometime during the Ike years, we pissed 'em off real good. They did a "show of force", showing the US military that they could destroy us effortlessly if they wanted to. There was something in this lore that they "beamed" one of Ike's personal possessions out of some remote location right into the White House, just to show "We own your little world, tiny hu-MANs".
There message was clear: Fuck with us not, puny hu-MANs. We have no interest in you, you are nothing but lower life forms. Yes, we're going to abduct your people and do whatever the fuck we want (we like the ass probing. We don't really have to do it, but we just like it).
And you're going to do nothing about it. Stay out of our way, and we let you continue your little civilization here. Mess with us, and we destroy you.
And thus it's been ever since.
Again, if I had to pick one, that's the one I'd go with.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 02:08 AM (DW+jj)
Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 02:03 AM (uV2DT)<<<
That was me.
Posted by: Doc Marten at July 21, 2016 02:08 AM (H9MG5)
Nathan Fillion as well.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:08 AM (3ZoRf)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:08 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: zombie at July 21, 2016 02:09 AM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 21, 2016 02:09 AM (AoK0a)
Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 21, 2016 02:09 AM (dULJN)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:57 AM (DW+jj)
I know exactly what an alien would like - Vanessa Angel from Kingpin:
Roy: You're not his type.
Claudia: I'm every
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 21, 2016 02:10 AM (zc3Db)
Gold or paper money?
: -))
Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 21, 2016 02:11 AM (AoK0a)
Posted by: publius
I think most aliens are going to be algae type things on marsh surfaces, or buoyant jellyfish-type gas-giant inhabitants.
Or blog thread commenters.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 02:06 AM (VY8H5)
And someone will still want to have sex with it.
Posted by: buzzion at July 21, 2016 02:11 AM (bMG0w)
Robert Silverberg - Those Who Watch
https://www.amazon.com/Those-Watch-T4496-Robert-Silverberg/dp/B002Z6HGZO
Jack Chalker - The Identity Matrix
https://www.amazon.com/Identity-Matrix-Jack-L-Chalker/dp/0671444816
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 02:11 AM (GYSvp)
Posted by: zombie at July 21, 2016 02:09 AM (jBuUi)
They're here already! Priuses, and they are disguised as Toyotas.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 02:12 AM (GSdpU)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:12 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: buzzion at July 21, 2016 02:11 AM (bMG0w)<<<
Death by snu-snu. I'm ok with that.
Posted by: Zapp Brannigan at July 21, 2016 02:12 AM (H9MG5)
-1941
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:13 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 21, 2016 02:09 AM (dULJN)
Ammo always spends.
I always liked the idea in the Fallout universe of water being the currency. It made sense because clean water was in short supply though. If it is all clean though, it becomes the opposite of a good monetary system, I suppose.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:13 AM (3ZoRf)
Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic
--------------------
Oh - I could do that one all night. And of course "I thought you'd be bigger"
Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 02:13 AM (uV2DT)
That there makes sense.
I have a friend who's good at life (I am not) who talks about the three Gs. Guns, goods, and gold.
Well, I can't actually afford to stockpile two of them, but I figure the one that I have will help if times come that make that count.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 02:13 AM (1xUj/)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 01:57 AM (DW+jj)
The aliens are already among us. They're just called Hungarians.
Posted by: Leo Szilard at July 21, 2016 02:14 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:14 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 02:06 AM (VY8H5)
And someone will still want to have sex with it.
Projection is not just a river in Egypt!
Posted by: Adriane the Pop Psychology Critic ... at July 21, 2016 02:14 AM (AoK0a)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:15 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 02:15 AM (uV2DT)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 02:16 AM (GYSvp)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)
My theory, and not even as a joke, is that starting in the '60s and '70s child molesters felt emboldened by the Sexual Revolution and all its side-effects, and that there was an exponential sudden increase in the number of very young children/toddlers being molested and raped -- at an age too young to fully remember, but still cognizant enough to be traumatized. When those rape victims grew up and reached adulthood in the '80s and '90s, a substantial number of them were having PSTD "flashbacks" of vague impressions of scary being sticking things up the kids' asses for reasons the kids couldn't fathom. These hazy memories became the whole "alien anal probe" fad because the truth was just too horrible for society to accept -- that the "aliens" in question were actually homosexual pedophiles.
Posted by: zombie at July 21, 2016 02:16 AM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:16 AM (6gk0M)
I have a friend who's good at life (I am not) who talks about the three Gs. Guns, goods, and gold.
Well, I can't actually afford to stockpile two of them, but I figure the one that I have will help if times come that make that count.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 02:13 AM (1xUj/)
I would think alcohol would be more valuble than gold in a post apocalypse type situation, really. Can be used for medicine or recreation. Vodka at least. Everclear definitely. Not sure how good some of the dark ones would be though.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:16 AM (3ZoRf)
Posted by: zombie at July 21, 2016 02:17 AM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 21, 2016 02:18 AM (GYSvp)
I literally slid out of my chair in the theater during that movie I was laughing so hard ...
Posted by: Adriane the Pop Psychology Critic ... at July 21, 2016 02:18 AM (AoK0a)
Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 02:18 AM (uV2DT)
I know it is only Thursday, but you're harshing my fucking "mellow".
No offense taken. Orange wedges are available in the yellow tent.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:19 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 02:19 AM (uV2DT)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:19 AM (6gk0M)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046475/
"The Twonky", starring Hans Conried, about a man cursed with a possessed TV set.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 02:20 AM (GSdpU)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:22 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Slapweasel
When you look at it with fresh eyes, the contraction "G'Night" looks like the name of a Lovecraftian Elder God. So your comment number was appropriate.
"G'Nigth raised his slimy tentacles to the darkened sky..."
Posted by: zombie at July 21, 2016 02:22 AM (jBuUi)
More than 1 person I've read has said much the same about Freudian Psychology. His 'Study of Anna' sounds a lot like child molestation by her Father ... which Freud turned into manifestation of the unconscious.
Posted by: Adriane the Pop Psychology Critic ... at July 21, 2016 02:22 AM (AoK0a)
I would think alcohol would be more valuble than
gold in a post apocalypse type situation, really. Can be used for
medicine or recreation. Vodka at least. Everclear definitely. Not sure
how good some of the dark ones would be though.
Posted by: Aetius451AD[/]
Needs to be over 62% without adjuncts.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 02:23 AM (VY8H5)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T)
669 666 G'Night
Posted by: Slapweasel
When you look at it with fresh eyes, the contraction "G'Night" looks like the name of a Lovecraftian Elder God.
Posted by: zombie
!!!!!!!
Talk about a crazy coincidence! We both typed "Lovecraft" at the same moment and posted seconds apart!
Spooky, I tells ya.
Posted by: zombie at July 21, 2016 02:24 AM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Adriane the Pop Psychology Critic ... at July 21, 2016 02:22 AM (AoK0a)
Most "make believe monsters" are far less scary than the ones people create themselves.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:24 AM (3ZoRf)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 02:24 AM (GSdpU)
Posted by: The Barrel at July 21, 2016 02:25 AM (3ZoRf)
-Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 02:20 AM (GSdpU)
That was called "Poltergeist" in Los Estados Unidos.
Por los Maple Personas.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:25 AM (6gk0M)
668 Inadvertent "evil" post#. Sorry, Lovecraft's Nightmare!
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T)
669 666 G'Night
Posted by: Slapweasel
When you look at it with fresh eyes, the contraction "G'Night" looks like the name of a Lovecraftian Elder God.
Posted by: zombie
!!!!!!!
Talk about a crazy coincidence! We both typed "Lovecraft" at the same moment and posted seconds apart!
Spooky, I tells ya.
Posted by: zombie at July 21, 2016 02:24 AM (jBuUi)
It's all good....
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 02:25 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:26 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: lurking lurker who lurks at July 21, 2016 02:26 AM (I1NVD)
Posted by: The Barrel at July 21, 2016 02:26 AM (3ZoRf)
Posted by: cthulhu
Stop controlling us with your inhuman mind!
I...feel...like...a...marionette!
Posted by: zombie at July 21, 2016 02:27 AM (jBuUi)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 02:23 AM (VY8H5)
Why 62%? Is that the concentration 99% of bacteria are killed at?
Posted by: The Barrel at July 21, 2016 02:27 AM (3ZoRf)
https://archive.org/details/FRRCissalda
Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2016 02:28 AM (IdCqF)
Posted by: buzzion at July 21, 2016 02:28 AM (bMG0w)
Posted by: buzzion at July 21, 2016 02:28 AM (bMG0w)
There should be tons of new york times available. And Twilight. And 50 shades of Grey.
Posted by: The Barrel at July 21, 2016 02:30 AM (3ZoRf)
Cheap bourbon has been poured on more than one of my cuts, that's for sure.
Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 02:30 AM (uV2DT)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:31 AM (3ZoRf)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:24 AM (3ZoRf)
Humans *are* monsters. They're just not all bad.
http://cheezburger.com/8278903296
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 21, 2016 02:31 AM (wB8Tg)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:31 AM (6gk0M)
If it weren't for double entendre, we'd have no entendres at all ...
Posted by: Adriane the Pop Psychology Critic ... at July 21, 2016 02:31 AM (AoK0a)
That hasn't worked out too well for Venezuela after nationalizing a Kimberly-Clark factory that was shut down for lack of raw materials.
Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2016 02:32 AM (IdCqF)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 02:23 AM (VY8H5)
Why 62%? Is that the concentration 99% of bacteria are killed at?
Posted by: The Barrel
Not a bio-chemist but I think there is a level in a solution in which the tension breaks the normal bacterial/viral barrier and destroys their ability to 'infect' the surrounding environment.
Pls let me know if your experience is otherwise.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 02:33 AM (VY8H5)
That hasn't worked out too well for Venezuela after nationalizing a Kimberly-Clark factory that was shut down for lack of raw materials.
Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2016 02:32 AM (IdCqF)
I said post apocalyptic world. Not "socialist utopia"
Posted by: buzzion at July 21, 2016 02:34 AM (bMG0w)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:34 AM (6gk0M)
Pls let me know if your experience is otherwise.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 02:33 AM (VY8H5)
No, I studied chemistry a lot more than biology. It just seemed like a specific number and 99% killed is a nice round number that people shoot for when talking about disinfectants.
I like learning new things.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:35 AM (3ZoRf)
Posted by: Clusterfuck Trump at July 21, 2016 02:36 AM (lDnx/)
It was about who was buying what and who was eating and using shit the others' had paid for, and that wasn't right. So we all had a falling out, where it was every man for himself. You want it, you buy it, and don't mess with my shit.
Some of that shit was toilet paper. We actually hid and hoarded the stuff for a while. I hid mine in a building on campus, in a room I had access to. What's this TP doing here?! Don't ask, man, it's not bothering anybody.
That ended badly when one guy stopped up a toilet using some damn paper bag paper or something.
These are the ways of young, stupid kids, having their first experience living away from home.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 02:37 AM (DW+jj)
It's all good....
Posted by: cthulhu
Stop controlling us with your inhuman mind!
I...feel...like...a...marionette!
Posted by: zombie at July 21, 2016 02:27 AM (jBuUi)
Could be worse -- @680 we have a talking barrel....
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 02:38 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:39 AM (3ZoRf)
So I never start.
Posted by: Adriane the Pop Psychology Critic ... at July 21, 2016 02:39 AM (AoK0a)
Por los Maple Personas.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:25 AM (6gk0M)
It was made in the USA. 1953. I checked several sources, and no mention of release under any alternate titles. Poltergeist was made in 1982, with a remake in 2015.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2016 02:39 AM (GSdpU)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 02:38 AM (EzgxV)
I was drinking something that came from a barrel, so it fits.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:40 AM (3ZoRf)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 21, 2016 02:41 AM (3ZoRf)
With a little effort we could classy up the place. Do some dusting. That lampshade's not so bad.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 02:41 AM (1xUj/)
We had two to a bathroom. We actually came to blows one time when one bathroom was so filthy, one came and used the other two's bathroom.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 02:43 AM (DW+jj)
You are neither "soap", nor "surface tension" so I cannot speak to you, as per the earlier delineated rules.
My apologies for not being able to address your cause at this time. Please register at the approved addresses and inquire post- ... you know, whatever.
Inquiries may not be addressed immediately, as the recipient may be pissing and/or otherwise indisposed.
Slapweasel Farms thanks you for your diligence and patience in these matters. We are constantly avoiding your call.
Please try back when we give a shit.
Thanks!
*Hangs Up Phone*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:43 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Adriane the Polka Critic ... at July 21, 2016 02:43 AM (AoK0a)
These are the ways of young, stupid kids, having their first experience living away from home.
Posted by: publius
---------------
I had the exact same experience when I first bought my house. A out the same age. Best friend since 9 or 10 was a roomate.
He had the nerve to say "I don't shit here, man. I shit at work."
Ok, fine, then.
He pulled it off for longer than I thought he could. He lasted at least two weeks driving to work every time before he came home with a Costco pack of TP, though. I was impressed.
Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 02:45 AM (uV2DT)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:45 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 02:48 AM (1xUj/)
-Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 02:48 AM (1xUj/)
LMFAO!
The delay on that fuse 'til the punchline was exquisite!
G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!
*static*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:51 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 02:51 AM (VY8H5)
Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 02:53 AM (uV2DT)
Posted by: Leo Szilard at July 21, 2016 02:14 AM (zc3Db)
I was thinking more like mohammedans, but YMMV.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 21, 2016 02:55 AM (+YMhA)
That ended badly when one guy stopped up a toilet using some damn paper bag paper or something.
These are the ways of young, stupid kids, having their first experience living away from home.
Posted by: publius
---------------
I had the exact same experience when I first bought my house. A out the same age. Best friend since 9 or 10 was a roomate.
He had the nerve to say "I don't shit here, man. I shit at work."
Ok, fine, then.
He pulled it off for longer than I thought he could. He lasted at
least two weeks driving to work every time before he came home with a
Costco pack of TP, though. I was impressed.
Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 02:45 AM (uV2DT)
Here at Casa de Cthulhu, there is backstock on several items: TP, bar soap, dishwashing soap, laundry detergent, batteries, aluminum foil, and baggies (among others). The first decade with the fiancee, she thought that was weird. The second decade, she thought it was handy. We're working on our third decade together, and she tells everyone that they're idiots to do anything else.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 02:55 AM (EzgxV)
"You're such a golden god."
-Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2016 02:51 AM (VY8H5)
I'm just an idiot with a keyboard and I think you know it.
*falls over chair*
I've gotta go to bed.
*National Anthem*
*Test-Pattern Indian*
*SquEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 21, 2016 02:56 AM (6gk0M)
Happened within the last hour.
Injuries? unclear.
Posted by: ArthurK at July 21, 2016 02:56 AM (h53OH)
Is that a bad thing? I got a handjob from one in college and I liked it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 02:57 AM (1xUj/)
I have a close friend that I could never live with unless we had separate bathrooms. When I first became aware of it he was sharing an apartment and I blamed the room mates, because it just didn't seem to match up with his personality. But since then it has become plain that he is a really horrible housekeeper. I'm no great shakes but I'd never leave a toilet with visible fecal matter still on the seat.
The funny thing is that most people who only knew this guy away from home would think he is a Felix but he's really an Oscar.
Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2016 03:01 AM (IdCqF)
Posted by: guy with large kirpan in pants at July 21, 2016 03:03 AM (VY8H5)
"It is to be regretted that the rich and powerful too often bend the
acts of government to their selfish purposes. Distinctions in society
will always exist under every just government. Equality of talents, of
education, or of wealth can not be produced by human institutions. In
the full enjoyment of the gifts of Heaven and the fruits of superior
industry, economy, and virtue, every man is equally entitled to
protection by law; but when the laws undertake to add to these natural
and just advantages artificial distinctions, to grant titles,
gratuities, and exclusive privileges, to make the rich richer and the
potent more powerful, the humble members of society-the farmers,
mechanics, and laborers-who have neither the time nor the means of
securing like favors to themselves, have a right to complain of the
injustice of their Government. There are no necessary evils in
government. Its evils exist only in its abuses. If it would confine
itself to equal protection, and, as Heaven does its rains, shower its
favors alike on the high and the low, the rich and the poor, it would be
an unqualified blessing. In the act before me there seems to be a wide
and unnecessary departure from these just principles.
Nor is our Government to be maintained or our Union preserved by
invasions of the rights and powers of the several States. In thus
attempting to make our General Government strong we make it weak. Its
true strength consists in leaving individuals and States as much as
possible to themselves-in making itself felt, not in its power, but in
its beneficence; not in its control, but in its protection; not in
binding the States more closely to the center, but leaving each to move
unobstructed in its proper orbit.
Experience should teach us wisdom. Most of the difficulties our
Government now encounters and most of the dangers which impend over our
Union have sprung from an abandonment of the legitimate objects of
Government by our national legislation, and the adoption of such
principles as are embodied in this act. Many of our rich men have not
been content with equal protection and equal benefits, but have besought
us to make them richer by act of Congress. By attempting to gratify
their desires we have in the results of our legislation arrayed section
against section, interest against interest, and man against man, in a
fearful commotion which threatens to shake the foundations of our Union.
It is time to pause in our career to review our principles, and if
possible revive that devoted patriotism and spirit of compromise which
distinguished the sages of the Revolution and the fathers of our Union.
If we can not at once, in justice to interests vested under improvident
legislation, make our Government what it ought to be, we can at least
take a stand against all new grants of monopolies and exclusive
privileges, against any prostitution of our Government to the
advancement of the few at the expense of the many, and in favor of
compromise and gradual reform in our code of laws and system of
political economy.
I have now done my duty to my country. If sustained by my fellow
citizens, I shall be grateful and happy; if not, I shall find in the
motives which impel me ample grounds for contentment and peace. In the
difficulties which surround us and the dangers which threaten our
institutions there is cause for neither dismay nor alarm. For relief and
deliverance let us firmly rely on that kind Providence which I am sure
watches with peculiar care over the destinies of our Republic, and on
the intelligence and wisdom of our countrymen. Through His abundant
goodness and heir patriotic devotion our liberty and Union will be
preserved."
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 03:10 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:12 AM (q7aKL)
General Lee: "We could have pursued no other course without dishonor. And sad as the results have been, if it had all to be done again, we should be compelled to act in precisely the same manner."
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:16 AM (q7aKL)
This is inefficient and how fecal matter gets on the seat sometimes. When they do a really messy one, loose material, that's when it really makes a mess. And on the floor. And around the sink when, if, they wash their hands.
This blew my mind. Now suggesting to these people that they change their ways. Well, you're gonna get in a fist fight. They take it as a high insult, a challenge to their honor.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 03:17 AM (DW+jj)
Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 03:17 AM (9dfKD)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:19 AM (q7aKL)
Blow darts with like yellow lizard poison?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 03:20 AM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:21 AM (q7aKL)
, he was a complete badass and a warrior for equality under the law .Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 03:24 AM (9dfKD)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:26 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 03:27 AM (9dfKD)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:28 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:29 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 03:20 AM (1xUj/)
Those would be some pretty stupid patients if they can't distinguish blow darts delivering painful death from acupuncture :-P
Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 03:29 AM (9dfKD)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:30 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:31 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:33 AM (q7aKL)
But you've got to manipulate them in someway to make them think something is being done.
I have no idea, but this is something they claim to do.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 21, 2016 03:33 AM (DW+jj)
Cooth... for all that Andrew Jackson gets a bad rap (and undeserved
blame for the forced removal of the Cherokee that was ordered by Martin
Van Buren in 183, he was a complete badass and a warrior for equality under the law .
Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 03:24 AM (9dfKD)
Despite being a Democrat in party identification, he was a steadfast Republican by nature. The quoted address is a barn-burner: "ut when the laws undertake to add to these natural
and just advantages artificial distinctions, to grant titles,
gratuities, and exclusive privileges, to make the rich richer and the potent more powerful, the humble members of society-the farmers,
mechanics, and laborers-who have neither the time nor the means of securing like favors to themselves, have a right to complain of the injustice of their Government."
As to the idea that Cankles could lay American secrets exposed before our enemies and skate....Jackson would have shot her himself.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 03:33 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at July 21, 2016 03:34 AM (VY8H5)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 03:34 AM (EzgxV)
there are no neutrals there.
You either a Trunpkin man
or a breath for Liberty's air!
Which side are you on, boys?
Which side are you on?
Posted by: NC Mountainl Girl at July 21, 2016 03:35 AM (aQkXH)
Yeah, like "Oral" Roberts.
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:35 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 03:36 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:28 AM (q7aKL)
183 AD was not a particularly good year for the Roman Empire. Marcus Aurelius had died three years prior (ending the era of "the good emperors") and Commodus was fending off coup attempts and getting his ass kicked by the Picts and Caledonians in Britain.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 03:38 AM (9dfKD)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:38 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at July 21, 2016 03:38 AM (VY8H5)
secrets exposed before our enemies and skate....Jackson would have shot
her himself.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 03:33 AM (EzgxV)
Or maybe beat her to death with his cane as he almost did the guy who tried to assassinate him.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 03:40 AM (9dfKD)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:41 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at July 21, 2016 03:44 AM (VY8H5)
ahem... you know the drill.
get in mah belly!
Posted by: The Barrel at July 21, 2016 03:44 AM (wIatL)
Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 03:44 AM (9dfKD)
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 21, 2016 03:47 AM (wIatL)
Agreed. Jackson gets an unfair bad rap these days.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at July 21, 2016 03:48 AM (HalrA)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:48 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 03:50 AM (6IPEM)
Posted by: redc1c4
Crack you knuckles. Did I replace all medicine? No.
And when are you going to see Ghostbusters?
Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at July 21, 2016 03:50 AM (VY8H5)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:52 AM (q7aKL)
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/ perus-andes-bitter-cold-devastates-alpaca-farmers-40759149
In Peru's Andes, Bitter Cold Devastates Alpaca Farmers
After three days of heavy snowfall and bone-chilling temperatures, Mateo Mullisaca watches as one of his alpacas falls to the ground in agony on his farm almost 16,400 feet (5,000 meters) high in Peru's Andes.
"Without water and without food, the weak ones die," the 62-year-old shepherd says as the animal takes its final breath with vultures lurking nearby.
Peru's government has declared a state of emergency in the southern Andes and promised $3 million in relief amid a bitter cold snap that has killed 50,000 alpacas. Authorities fear that if the mercury continues to hit minus 9 Fahrenheit (minus 23 Celsius) as many as 300,000 camelids could die, devastating the largely indigenous families who raise them.
Posted by: zombie at July 21, 2016 03:53 AM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at July 21, 2016 03:54 AM (VY8H5)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:55 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:56 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 03:59 AM (q7aKL)
The axe murderer looks more like 27 not 17. Since is family is alive and well, why dont they ask them his age?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 21, 2016 04:00 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:01 AM (q7aKL)
You can reason with the alpacas easier than you can the warmists ...
Posted by: Adriane the Globull Warmening Critic ... at July 21, 2016 04:01 AM (AoK0a)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:02 AM (q7aKL)
Roses are red,
Ball of Confusion,
Take Care, Ye Good Morons,
Don't take no contusions ...
Good Night, all
Posted by: Adriane the Globull Warmening Critic ... at July 21, 2016 04:03 AM (AoK0a)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:04 AM (q7aKL)
Up to 80 per cent of women in Pakistan's jails are charged under rules that penalise rape victims.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 21, 2016 04:06 AM (iQIUe)
Should we nuke 'em now or wait till later?
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:08 AM (q7aKL)
Pakistan's ruling party plans to pass long-delayed legislation against "honor killings" within weeks in the wake of the high-profile murder of an outspoken social media star, the daughter of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif said on Wednesday.
....
The government has faced mounting pressure to pass the law against murders carried out by people professing to be acting in defense of the honor of their family.
The law would remove a loophole that allows other family members to pardon a killer.
http://goo.gl/hwzsCL
================
It removes the get out of jail free card but I wonder what the punishment it. Again, I remember that in some countries it was treated as a low level crime with a few months in jail.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 21, 2016 04:10 AM (iQIUe)
Yikes! Over 500 women a year are murdered in honor killings in Pakistan.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 21, 2016 04:12 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:12 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:15 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:16 AM (q7aKL)
So sayeth the Shepherd...
Posted by: A Referee at July 21, 2016 04:20 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:21 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: A Referee at July 21, 2016 04:21 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:22 AM (q7aKL)
Good morning horde
Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2016 04:23 AM (bksJQ)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:23 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 03:50 AM (6IPEM)
I'm back. You still up?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 04:24 AM (1xUj/)
Posted by: A Suggestion at July 21, 2016 04:24 AM (6gk0M)
Besides, we have a referee!
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:25 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: OUT at July 21, 2016 04:26 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:26 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 04:28 AM (1xUj/)
Flock, Seagulls, No way, ref!
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:23 AM (q7aKL)
Weird haircut, and "I ran"....
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 04:29 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:30 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:30 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 04:30 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:31 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 04:32 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:34 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2016 04:35 AM (bksJQ)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:36 AM (q7aKL)
And many a man would fall.
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:39 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 04:39 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Skip at July 21, 2016 04:42 AM (bksJQ)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:46 AM (q7aKL)
-Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 04:32 AM (EzgxV)
I'm not even angry.
I'm being so sincere right now.
Even though you broke my heart and Killed Me.
-And tore me to pieces.
-And threw every piece
-Into
-A fire.
As they burned, it hurt because
I was so happy for you.
Now these points of data make a beautiful line
And we're out of Beta, we're releasing On Time.
So I'm GlaD I got burned
Think of all the things we learned
For the people who are Still Alive!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxTNqYAWISs
Posted by: Some Guy What Says Stuff] at July 21, 2016 04:47 AM (6gk0M)
Is that a hash or a new programming language?
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:48 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:56 AM (q7aKL)
So, no-one has recent experience with vsftpd.
Is that a hash or a new programming language?
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:48 AM (q7aKL)
vsftpd is a paranoid version of ftp....and is supposedly the default in many major linux releases....but nobody has dealt with it recently.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 04:57 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 04:58 AM (q7aKL)
You had me there for a second.
I gave up Linux for an extended vacation, although I might try to stick it on my Amazon Fire.
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 05:01 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 05:11 AM (q7aKL)
Virtual something File Transport Protocol Daemon?
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 05:11 AM (q7aKL)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vsftpd
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 05:16 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at July 21, 2016 05:17 AM (VY8H5)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 05:19 AM (q7aKL)
So long as the APIs are stable, lots can happen in the code it talks to without any changes needed to the vsftpd code itself. Plenty of stuff goes far longer than a year without changes if it just works and nobody can find a flaw or come up with an improvement.
Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2016 05:20 AM (IdCqF)
Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2016 05:22 AM (IdCqF)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 05:24 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 05:25 AM (q7aKL)
Sveta Jovanovich was her name.
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 05:29 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 05:33 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 05:35 AM (q7aKL)
Are you afraid of the dark?
Lie down over here and tell me about yo mama.
Posted by: JT at July 21, 2016 05:37 AM (qG0hz)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/h9gjcuc
I have the charger and media remote package for the Xbox One. Definitely worth having if you don't already have rechargeable batteries in your controller. The media remote is a lot less hassle that trying to remember the function mapping on the controller.
Some good sales items at Best Buy but I don't dare make even minor purchases right now with things so uncertain.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/grfb4mk
Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2016 05:41 AM (IdCqF)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 05:42 AM (q7aKL)
I wonder if they ever did a study comparing the frequency of crazy mamas to crazy childless women?
Posted by: JT at July 21, 2016 05:47 AM (qG0hz)
Currently, no. The various drugs for depression and anxiety never really made much difference in the past. If I had the finances to afford a pshrink I'd look into it again but my past experiences with what the County of Los Angeles offers did not make me eager to go back again. I'm very wary of drugs that are themselves addicting in such a way that you feel sick if you forget to take a dose, completely separate from what the drugs are supposed to treat.
Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2016 05:48 AM (IdCqF)
She drove a Jaguar XKE convertible in the winter with no top! She parked under a tree...
It snowed, a lot LOL!
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 05:51 AM (q7aKL)
Yeah, ya gotta keep taking them. My wife left for a vacation and left me with no lorazepam. after 6 days I was seeing kaleidoscopes!
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 05:54 AM (q7aKL)
Cool gig though!
Posted by: JT at July 21, 2016 05:57 AM (qG0hz)
heheheh...Little does he know that's by design. Keeps him on his toes.
'Morning, horde.
Posted by: creeper at July 21, 2016 06:00 AM (RXE+v)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:00 AM (mpXpK)
The Clinton crime syndicate has been lying all along about who is paying those exorbitant "speaking fees" they gather in at those different venues. And those financial disclosures are signed under oath and affirmation so this is even more felonies for each case. I have signed many different documents that specifically said that it must be signed under oath and affirmation with a warning that false statements could result in 40 years in prison. (how they get at that for perjury I do not know) But I guess that only applies if your name is not Clinton.
http://tinyurl.com/glkmy5u
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:00 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:00 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)
http://tinyurl.com/z36h49q
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)
http://tinyurl.com/hgj6x3m
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)
A federal judge has struck down a US seizure of a Manhattan skyscraper thought to be owed partially by Iran in a civil suit by the victims of terrorists supported by Iran. Do I smell the influence by the corrupt Obamanites here?
http://tinyurl.com/gr3xqfs
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)
She was very hostile to me because I was the same age as Vietnam Vets! I ditched her pronto!
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:02 AM (q7aKL)
http://tinyurl.com/guooryp
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:02 AM (mpXpK)
http://tinyurl.com/zbs7prv
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:02 AM (mpXpK)
http://tinyurl.com/jx28ol9
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:02 AM (mpXpK)
http://tinyurl.com/jcqw2rt
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:03 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:03 AM (q7aKL)
http://tinyurl.com/za588t5
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:03 AM (mpXpK)
http://tinyurl.com/gksyabt
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:03 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:03 AM (mpXpK)
http://tinyurl.com/zb4yt7d
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:04 AM (mpXpK)
http://tinyurl.com/hxb99od
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:04 AM (mpXpK)
http://tinyurl.com/zk57e2h
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:04 AM (mpXpK)
http://tinyurl.com/hr83gyb
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:04 AM (mpXpK)
http://tinyurl.com/hlfpt62
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:05 AM (mpXpK)
http://tinyurl.com/zzghxth
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:05 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:05 AM (q7aKL)
http://tinyurl.com/j3mz2g3
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:05 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:05 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:05 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:07 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2016 06:09 AM (IdCqF)
Posted by: Ostrich at July 21, 2016 06:09 AM (RXE+v)
The Ailes stuff is starting to look like a Turkish Coup.
Planned by the supposed victims.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:10 AM (WVsWD)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:10 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Ostrich
Don't do that!! That's where the LIV Fire Ants live!!
Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2016 06:11 AM (8ikIW)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:13 AM (q7aKL)
Height of the summer driving season and gas here is under $2.
*thought I'd throw something out there*
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:13 AM (Tw/PN)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:14 AM (q7aKL)
That's how you can tell the Economy is humming along nicely.
Cheap Gas!!
When demand is high, price is low!!
Right?
Wait. I think I got that backwards but I'm no krugman here.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:15 AM (WVsWD)
It seems to me that if you vote for Hillary instead of Trump you have made a two-vote swing in the result...one less for Trump and one more for Hillary. If you vote write-in, Trump loses a vote but Hillary does not gain one.
No, I'm not voting write-in but I have a serious problem with people who are doing so being castigated as traitors.
What say you?
Posted by: creeper at July 21, 2016 06:15 AM (RXE+v)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:17 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:17 AM (Tw/PN)
Ill-noize, is the best way.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:19 AM (WVsWD)
So where is your logic? I explained mine.
Posted by: creeper at July 21, 2016 06:19 AM (RXE+v)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:20 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: creeper at July 21, 2016 06:15 AM (RXE+v)
#NeverTrumpers writing in a candidate helps only the Dems. Writing in a candidate is tantamount to throwing one's vote away. When was the last time a third party/write in candidate won a presidential race?
Posted by: RickZ at July 21, 2016 06:20 AM (dI5fO)
What is the likelihood of your preferred to win?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:21 AM (WVsWD)
Posted by: AlixJones at July 21, 2016 06:21 AM (WlGX+)
you're full of shit.
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:21 AM (q7aKL)
Any vote which could be for Trump, but then which is not due to a write-in, only weakens Trump and helps The Devil Incarnate.
He needs every vote he can get. We do too.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:22 AM (Tw/PN)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:23 AM (q7aKL)
The next time my party nominates a candidate who was born in a foreign country I'll just hold my nose and pull the lever for him.
That will happen right after hell freezes over.
Posted by: creeper at July 21, 2016 06:24 AM (RXE+v)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:24 AM (WVsWD)
Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes. I have only two things to say this morning:
1. I am reminded of the line in the Kevin Costner movie Thirteen Days: "Did you ever see a man cut his own throat in public before?"
2. Fuck you, Ted Cruz. DIAF.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 21, 2016 06:24 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:24 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: JharlesChonson at July 21, 2016 06:24 AM (WlGX+)
If you live in OH it makes it more probable that Scankles will win OH because that is a swing State that could influence the election. If you live in SC it most probably will have no impact at all.
The President is not elected by popular vote despite efforts to make it so.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:24 AM (mpXpK)
No. I would not say that. But, we do have one Hell of a reckoning coming if Hillary gets elected and I don't want that.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:27 AM (Tw/PN)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:27 AM (WVsWD)
That will happen right after hell freezes over.
Posted by: creeper at July 21, 2016 06:24 AM (RXE+v)
No offense, but what does being born in a foreign country have to do with Trump?
This election we're choosing between Hillarity! and Trump. Not voting for Trump is voting for the unindicted felon from Chicago/Arkansas/NY/DC. It's as simple as that.
Posted by: RickZ at July 21, 2016 06:28 AM (dI5fO)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:28 AM (q7aKL)
1. I am reminded of the line in the Kevin Costner movie Thirteen Days: "Did you ever see a man cut his own throat in public before?"
2. Fuck you, Ted Cruz. DIAF.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 21, 2016 06:24 AM (X6fMO)
So you don't class Trump as someone who you "trust to defend our freedoms and be faithful to the Constitution" either, huh?
And this is the man that you want us to vote for?
Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 06:30 AM (9dfKD)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:31 AM (WVsWD)
It comes off as nothing but butthurt crybabyism. Yeah, let's go to a 3-men in a smoke-filled room scenario and let them pick the nominee from now on. What could go wrong?
FFS, me and a whole lot of other folks are grudgingly pulling the lever for Trump just as we grudgingly pulled the lever for McCain and Romney. But none of us suggested blowing up the entire primary system because we didn't get our way in 08 or 2012.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at July 21, 2016 06:31 AM (WlGX+)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:32 AM (WVsWD)
As a non-Illinoisian I thought your pronunciation was correct. At least the way I always said it.
Now, "Missouri."
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:32 AM (Tw/PN)
Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 06:30 AM (9dfKD)
So you're going with Hillarity!, huh? We have a stark choice (again) this election. We've hosen poorly over the last two presidential elections. Let's not make it a Trifecta.
Posted by: RickZ at July 21, 2016 06:33 AM (dI5fO)
Man, I hope nobody shows her a Hi-Point carbine.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 21, 2016 06:33 AM (97XyN)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at July 21, 2016 06:33 AM (WlGX+)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:33 AM (Tw/PN)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:34 AM (q7aKL)
Seriously. I live with the shame of never knowing which is right.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at July 21, 2016 06:35 AM (WlGX+)
It
seems to me that if you vote for Hillary instead of Trump you have made
a two-vote swing in the result...one less for Trump and one more for
Hillary. If you vote write-in, Trump loses a vote but Hillary does not
gain one.
No, I'm not voting write-in but I have a serious problem with people who are doing so being castigated as traitors.
What say you?
.
.
.Yes, even more so in Ohio, Pennsylvania or Florida.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 21, 2016 06:36 AM (iONHu)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:36 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at July 21, 2016 06:36 AM (WlGX+)
Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2016 06:36 AM (8ikIW)
My point was that there are legitimate reasons for a person to vote write-in. I could not have voted for Cruz, Rubio or Jindal because I believe them to be ineligible. There are people who have as deeply-held views on Trump. They won't vote for him but they won't vote for her, either. This is the best they can do, given their beliefs.
It's the intolerance that bothers me. Elections are hard on everyone, especially in the current cultural climate.
Posted by: creeper at July 21, 2016 06:37 AM (RXE+v)
stark choice (again) this election. We've hosen poorly over the last
two presidential elections. Let's not make it a Trifecta.
Posted by: RickZ at July 21, 2016 06:33 AM (dI5fO)
Despite your (and other's) insistence that we are faced with a binary choice, we are not.
Personally, I will vote for neither Trump nor Hillary.
That was not the point I was making, though... I find it terribly interesting that Trump supporters also think that Cruz could not have possibly meant Trump when he urged support for Constitutionalist "upticket and down".
Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 06:37 AM (9dfKD)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:37 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:37 AM (Tw/PN)
I don't think it matters if we did away with the primary system for either Party. The system is rigged from top to bottom with the order of the primaries AND the so-called super delegates. Trump won in spite of the RNCe, Scankles won because the Democrat system is even more corrupt than the Republican one.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:38 AM (mpXpK)
I HATE that. As much as I love my boy Clarkson he always says that and it grates every time.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:39 AM (Tw/PN)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
I'm watching a Wheeler Dealers episode and Mike just had said it.
Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2016 06:40 AM (8ikIW)
Donald Trump Jr. was just on Morning Joe.
Can we have him? His name is Donald Trump. That's the name of the guy who got the votes.
He talks smart and stuff.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 06:41 AM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:32 AM (Tw/PN)
Mizz-O-ree, Gloom and dispair and agoknee on mee!!
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:41 AM (WVsWD)
Posted by: JROD at July 21, 2016 06:42 AM (wnwJC)
Is that a question?
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:42 AM (q7aKL)
It's the intolerance that bothers me. Elections are hard on everyone, especially in the current cultural climate.
Posted by: creeper at July 21, 2016 06:37 AM (RXE+v)
As far as I'm concerned, writing in a candidate is even worse than voting third party. Again, with the Democrat margin of fraud coming into play, not giving a vote to Trump is giving a vote to Hillarity!
As for good reasons for writing in a candidate, one of those reasons is not love of Country but a conceited attempt to show how 'independent' they are. They are all Pauline Kaels: 'I don't know anybody who voted for Nixon!'
Posted by: RickZ at July 21, 2016 06:43 AM (dI5fO)
Yes but it doesn't end there. This is complicated so we will need complete silence while we study this.
1. A vote for Trump is a vote for Trump.
2. A vote for Hillary is a vote for Hillary.
3. A write in vote is a vote for Hillary.
4. A vote for Johnson is a vote for Hillary.
4. A vote for sander (if he runs independent) is a vote for Trump.
Class dismissed.
Posted by: Drider at July 21, 2016 06:43 AM (6Xbsz)
Agreed, the primary system needs changes (the Dems are clearly worse though.)
But that's not what they are proposing. They are proposing a purely republican remedy (the system, not the party.) Which means not fixing the system but doing away with it altogether.
The Z-Man's withering response helpfully has links to French and Goldberg's current columns:
http://thezman.com/wordpress/
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at July 21, 2016 06:43 AM (WlGX+)
Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 06:43 AM (x2rNW)
So you don't class Trump as someone who you "trust to defend our freedoms and be faithful to the Constitution" either, huh?
And this is the man that you want us to vote for?
What I want is that a speaker on the penultimate night of the convention have the decency to put away his boo-boo binky and not give the treasonous, racist, murderous enemy party a ready-made soundbite. Is that too hard for you to understand, Slick?
Fuck this noise. I've got work to do.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 21, 2016 06:44 AM (X6fMO)
Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 21, 2016 06:44 AM (hyuyC)
Well, yeah, I guess it is. How do you ignore that dangling vowel? English language rules mush prevail.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:46 AM (Tw/PN)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:47 AM (WVsWD)
"Wait a minute. What was that again? A sex change manual for the military?"
The US military has a fine tradition of giving the enemy sex changes.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 21, 2016 06:47 AM (QdAXQ)
Hey!
Posted by: Weasel union #461 at July 21, 2016 06:47 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:46 AM (Tw/PN)
There are times when a typo makes just too much damned sense.
Posted by: RickZ at July 21, 2016 06:48 AM (dI5fO)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:48 AM (Tw/PN)
Didn't like my pronunciation of Mizzou?
I has a sadz.
See?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:48 AM (WVsWD)
Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 06:49 AM (x2rNW)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at July 21, 2016 06:49 AM (WlGX+)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:49 AM (Tw/PN)
either Party. The system is rigged from top to bottom with the order of
the primaries AND the so-called super delegates. Trump won in spite of
the RNCe, Scankles won because the Democrat system is even more corrupt
than the Republican one.
.
.
.I agree the Primary systems needs changed but in the middle of a Presidential Election cycle is not the time to change it. After the election they need to revamp the entire thing IMO.
And one of the big things the Republicans need to change is who goes first and what order follows. A rotating State schedule with actual Primaries and none of this Caucus bull$hit. Straight up closed vote primaries.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 21, 2016 06:49 AM (iONHu)
What I want is that a speaker on the penultimate night of the convention have the decency to put away his boo-boo binky and not give the treasonous, racist, murderous enemy party a ready-made soundbite. Is that too hard for you to understand, Slick?
Fuck this noise. I've got work to do.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 21, 2016 06:44 AM (X6fMO)
The only soundbite "the treasonous, racist, murderous enemy party" got was from Trumpkins booing Cruz (and then attacking his wife so she "had to be escorted out by security for her own safety".)
All Trump had to do was to claim the support offered by Cruz for any conservative by claiming the mantle of defender of rights and the Constitution.
Instead he explicitly rejected that mantle by explicitly stating that Cruz did not support him. That was not Cruz's put in.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 06:50 AM (9dfKD)
Cruz was a dick last night
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 06:51 AM (zp+j1)
If you don't you will regret it for the rest of your life.
And that's a Fact.
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:51 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 06:51 AM (x2rNW)
change is who goes first and what order follows. A rotating State
schedule with actual Primaries and none of this Caucus bull$hit.
Straight up closed vote primaries.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
And start with primaries in Repub leaning states.
Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2016 06:51 AM (8ikIW)
I has a sadz.
See? "
Ah, just a rhetorical discussion. Do what you do.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:51 AM (Tw/PN)
Bottom line is he signed a pledge to supprt the nominee.
Trump gave him a pretty plumb speaking spot
And his little stunt took all of the attention off of the main speaker of the evening, Mike Pence, and made Cruz the story everyone is talking about.
Pretty dissapointed in Cruz.
And it was so uneccesary.
Posted by: Kreplach at July 21, 2016 06:52 AM (3Xxpy)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:52 AM (q7aKL)
I have no plans on vote for alleged conservatives mark kirk or darrin "prince" lahood.
Both of them are going to vote the way the proggies tell them to anyway.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:53 AM (WVsWD)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:53 AM (Tw/PN)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 06:54 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:54 AM (Tw/PN)
This is why I can't get too bent out of shape about people voting write-in. I used to think my vote mattered. After the last two elections I realize that it does not.
Posted by: creeper at July 21, 2016 06:55 AM (RXE+v)
Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 06:51 AM (x2rNW)
Sigh... Cruz supported anyone who was willing to defend our rights and the Constitution. Anyone else is undeserving of support. I find it sad that Trump chose not to accept the responsibility that came with the support Cruz offered.
It is sadder still that you and others are still spouting Trump's primary season lies.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 06:55 AM (9dfKD)
Posted by: Kreplach at July 21, 2016 06:52 AM (3Xxpy)
2020! 2020!! 2020!!!
Last nights speech pretty much cemented the notion that Cruz is okay with a hillzebub presidency.
Live with it Cruz supporters.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:55 AM (WVsWD)
Posted by: JROD at July 21, 2016 06:55 AM (wnwJC)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 21, 2016 06:49 AM (iONHu)
The status of primaries, open or closed, is dependent on the State, not the parties. The Republicans here have sued multiple times and have lost in court each time because the primary is set by State law (passed when the Democrats had total control).
The courts have maintained that since the State provides resources they have a say in how it is conducted. I have no idea why the Republicans have not repealed that law and made it a closed primary now that they hold all three offices in SC.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:55 AM (mpXpK)
It's only places with extreme inferiority complexes and Daddy Issues that act like that.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 06:55 AM (1xUj/)
Both of them are going to vote the way the proggies tell them to anyway.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois.
Yeah, Kirk is a real disappointment.
Posted by: Bruce at July 21, 2016 06:56 AM (8ikIW)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 06:56 AM (zp+j1)
Did he sign a conditional one that others didn't sign?
Help me out with some knowledge here.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 06:57 AM (WVsWD)
Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 06:57 AM (x2rNW)
Posted by: creeper at July 21, 2016 06:57 AM (RXE+v)
You've got that 180 degrees turned around and exactly backwards. I've never seen logic like that.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 06:58 AM (Tw/PN)
Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 06:59 AM (x2rNW)
Posted by: JROD at July 21, 2016 06:59 AM (wnwJC)
Posted by: IC at July 21, 2016 06:59 AM (g26j/)
Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:00 AM (x2rNW)
Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:00 AM (x2rNW)
Trump says he saw it two hours before Cruz delivered it and allowed it
to proceed.
Posted by: creeper at July 21, 2016 06:57 AM (RXE+v)
Yeah, no. I do not know if Trump saw Cruz's speech or not. I do know it wasn't within his power to "allow it" or not. Cruz had enough states to have his name entered into nomination which means Trump could not stop him from speaking.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 07:00 AM (9dfKD)
Cruz was clearly appealing to the delegate rebels with the conscience line.
And Clinton used it against both Cruz and Trump.
Clintons tweet confirms that Cruzs non-endorsement is going to be used by Democrats to hurt the Republican ticket of Trump-Pence.
Chris Christie blasted Cruz as selfish because the crowd was waiting for him to do the right thing.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:00 AM (zp+j1)
across to those delegates and most Americans watching as a less than
gracious loser.
=====
I don't believe this is true but, even if it were, its only fair since Trump is an incredible sore and obnoxious winner.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 07:02 AM (9dfKD)
Does that not say something? Somebody is bigger than someone else. No names mentioned.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 07:02 AM (Tw/PN)
No. No.
My Barony will need some good Men and Women. Even if you have no skills but are willing to learn. Those with skills will probably get a Knighthood when you swear Allegiance to Freiherr von dem Fluss und Bauernhof.
That would be me.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 07:03 AM (WVsWD)
Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:04 AM (x2rNW)
dependent on the State, not the parties. The Republicans here have sued
multiple times and have lost in court each time because the primary is
set by State law (passed when the Democrats had total control).
The
courts have maintained that since the State provides resources they
have a say in how it is conducted. I have no idea why the Republicans
have not repealed that law and made it a closed primary now that they
hold all three offices in SC.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 06:55 AM (mpXpK)
In states with no party affiliation, parties can ensure that the other party does not choose their candidate by having a convention instead of a primary.
Bonus? Taxpayers don't pay for conventions.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 07:05 AM (9dfKD)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 07:05 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:05 AM (zp+j1)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:00 AM (zp+j1)
2020!
2020!!
20202!!!
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 07:05 AM (WVsWD)
Fuck that noise I'll be dead.
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 07:06 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:04 AM (x2rNW)
That's not true. Stop muddying the waters with irrelevant terms like "neocons".
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:06 AM (zp+j1)
Posted by: IC at July 21, 2016 07:06 AM (KTFfX)
Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:06 AM (x2rNW)
"20202!!!"
Maybe Ted plans on sticking around for awhile.
Either that or by the time 20202 rolls around, An amendment will be passed to allow Zombies to run for POTUS.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 07:06 AM (WVsWD)
Posted by: IC at July 21, 2016 07:07 AM (KTFfX)
ensure that the other party does not choose their candidate by having a
convention instead of a primary.
Bonus? Taxpayers don't pay for conventions.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 07:05 AM (9dfKD)
Not if State law says you will hold an open primary.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 07:07 AM (mpXpK)
Now he seems like a childish idiot that can't put the past behind him.
He disappoints me.
Posted by: Gmac- All politics in this country now is just dress rehearsal for civil war. at July 21, 2016 07:08 AM (4pjhs)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 07:08 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 21, 2016 07:08 AM (4+VII)
Posted by: JROD at July 21, 2016 07:08 AM (wnwJC)
Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:08 AM (x2rNW)
Clintons tweet confirms that Cruzs non-endorsement is going to be used by Democrats to hurt the Republican ticket of Trump-Pence.
Precisely.
If Ted felt so ass-raped by the "Lyin' Ted" smear and the primary battles, he could have pulled a !Jeb and simply not shown up at all. Or he could have spoken honestly to the delegates, admitted that he felt Trump was way out of line, but that politics ain't beanbag and what Trump said was a gentle ribbing compared to what the Bitch of Benghazi and her feces-flinging MFM monkeys would have to say.
But he decided that a national audience was the perfect place to spit in Trump's face and pull a "you won't have Ted Cruz to kick around any more" routine, while - as pointed out - giving the Dems a ready-made appeal to the GOPe and their bum-kissers: "see! Even your own party's conservatives can't stand Trump! Aren't you ashamed to support that weasel-haired, short-fingered vulgar carny barker?"
Let's put it this way - if Cruz pouts like this because Trump called him "Lyin' Ted," how on earth would he have handled the Democrats smearing him as Hitler reborn?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 21, 2016 07:09 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:09 AM (x2rNW)
Hell, I had a hard enough time getting into junior college.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 07:09 AM (Tw/PN)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:09 AM (zp+j1)
There are only 2 choices in November. This is not some ivy league
masturbation, if you want that go to harvard or yale. If your not part
of the solution, your part of the problem
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:05 AM (zp+j1)
No it is not. See #881. It is 50 different elections involving multiple candidates. Most of which will have pre-ordained results.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 07:10 AM (mpXpK)
I guess i'll come back later when perhaps they might be talking about what Trump needs to do tonight. The NY Post writer, Michael Goodwin, set the bar pretty high.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2016 07:10 AM (bpZlE)
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 07:10 AM (q7aKL)
Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:10 AM (x2rNW)
true, Cruz wouldn't get a speaking spot at all. Remember he did not
pursue it based on his delegate count or anything, he was offered. And I
still say, if you don't want to endorse that is fine, but stay away.
Have your own thing going on, do not come across looking like a tone
dead boor.
Posted by: IC at July 21, 2016 07:06 AM (KTFfX)
Whatever the spin given, Trump could not stop Cruz from speaking and Cruz speaking was not dependent on any offer from Trump. Cruz gave a very upbeat speech that urged support for any constitutional conservative.
Trump could have very easily (if not very believably) claimed that support by claiming Cruz was speaking of him too. He didn't.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 07:11 AM (9dfKD)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 07:09 AM (Tw/PN)
but I bet you got a much better bang for your buck and are better grounded for the experience
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:11 AM (zp+j1)
Well, that's part of it. Trump is not the GOP. He's an insurgent. A successful one.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 07:12 AM (Tw/PN)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 21, 2016 07:08 AM (4+VII)
What's the point of that? There'd be no bacon fat to store in the fridge for later use! For someone who grew up south of Mason and Dixon's line, that is the end of the world, an Armageddon of nightmares.
Posted by: RickZ at July 21, 2016 07:13 AM (dI5fO)
Now that I drive from NJ to Portsmouth VA all the time, it is really amazing how far North the Mason Dixon line is.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:14 AM (zp+j1)
Launching myself out into the business world was more education than any college could ever provide me. Have a work ethic. Show up on time. Do the job prescribed. Have some initiative. Make a decision every once in a while.
You'll be fine.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 07:15 AM (Tw/PN)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 07:07 AM (mpXpK)
States can't do that. They can say that they have no way of keeping non-party members from voting if parties choose a primary but SCOTUS decisions support each party's right to set their own internal rules and mechanisms for choosing candidates.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 07:15 AM (9dfKD)
Anyway, Fenelon has the right idea. All this Cruz talk is angrying up my blood. I really must go away for a while.
In the meantime, here's a picture of Lucille Ball, back in her days as a young blonde starlet with Columbia Studios:
http://goo.gl/ucJl6K
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 21, 2016 07:16 AM (X6fMO)
JROD, Pineapple etc.
Nevergiveup, Never Give Up
Tim in Illinois, Keep on keepin on.
Ricardo Kill, Be yourself
The rest of you,
Posted by: Bernie supporters full of gas at July 21, 2016 07:16 AM (q7aKL)
Brit Hume: "It saves time."
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 21, 2016 07:18 AM (4+VII)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 21, 2016 07:19 AM (hyuyC)
and the primary battles, he could have pulled a !Jeb and simply not
shown up at all. Or he could have spoken honestly to the delegates,
admitted that he felt Trump was way out of line, but that politics ain't
beanbag and what Trump said was a gentle ribbing compared to what the
Bitch of Benghazi and her feces-flinging MFM monkeys would have to say.
But
he decided that a national audience was the perfect place to spit in
Trump's face and pull a "you won't have Ted Cruz to kick around any
more" routine, while - as pointed out - giving the Dems a ready-made
appeal to the GOPe and their bum-kissers: "see! Even your own party's
conservatives can't stand Trump! Aren't you ashamed to support that
weasel-haired, short-fingered vulgar carny barker?"
Let's put
it this way - if Cruz pouts like this because Trump called him "Lyin'
Ted," how on earth would he have handled the Democrats smearing him as
Hitler reborn?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 21, 2016 07:09 AM (X6fMO)
Cruz did not pout. He graciously congratulated Trump and then talked about things that are important to conservatives. It is soooo not his responsibility that Trump and his supporters at the convention are uncivil assholes who booed Ted then "attacked" his wife (the press's word not mine).
Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 07:19 AM (9dfKD)
Posted by: JROD at July 21, 2016 07:20 AM (wnwJC)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:20 AM (zp+j1)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:21 AM (zp+j1)
Sheesh. Touchy.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 21, 2016 07:22 AM (4+VII)
1. Yes. Cruz signed the same pledge as the other guys.
2. There were no conditions on it.
The pledge stated that they would support the eventual nominee with no conditions attached.
So now Trump has to meet Ted's conditions for support.
I think I know why Trump had no problems with this speech. Ted will probably not get as much support in 2020 as he did this time around. He sorta kneecap his competition in advance.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 07:22 AM (WVsWD)
The MSM is terrified of the thought that Republicans might actually fight back and call them out.
Posted by: CrothetyOldJarhead at July 21, 2016 07:22 AM (DIhU5)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 21, 2016 07:22 AM (4+VII)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 21, 2016 07:22 AM (4+VII)
he is not new...comes around every now and then
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:24 AM (zp+j1)
way of keeping non-party members from voting if parties choose a
primary but SCOTUS decisions support each party's right to set their own
internal rules and mechanisms for choosing candidates.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 07:15 AM (9dfKD)
I have never seen a SCOTUS ruling regarding holding of primaries. I have seen this State's court decision reflecting how primaries will be held.
So there is at least one State whose court does not agree with you.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 07:24 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 07:24 AM (Tw/PN)
And you want to talk about Trump supporters being in denial and moving goalposts.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 21, 2016 07:26 AM (3C84c)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 07:27 AM (Tw/PN)
[saunters in, hands in pockets, casual like]
[whistling Dixie]
[nods in a friendly manner]
[stops whistling. Starts Humming Battle Hymn of the Republic]
[Casually stolls on by]
Posted by: Henri at July 21, 2016 07:28 AM (aC1io)
Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:28 AM (x2rNW)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 21, 2016 07:28 AM (ZQfW9)
http://tinyurl.com/jdu75oh
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 07:29 AM (mpXpK)
http://tinyurl.com/zbs7prv
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party
I watched this, sort of. I have no memory of it. I was 3 months old. My sister remembers it, she was 5. My Mom told her to watch, it was History. Mom was just holding me I guess. At 3 months old, its pretty much eat, sleep, poop. I've seen video of it.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 21, 2016 07:29 AM (2EbTQ)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 21, 2016 07:29 AM (Mt8T4)
Posted by: JROD at July 21, 2016 07:29 AM (wnwJC)
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 21, 2016 07:26 AM (3C84c)
Bingo. LOL
And since when did the phrase "Trump Supporter" become a bad thing? Because in my book, at his point and time right thru to November, your either a Trump Supporter or the enemy. There is NO middle ground to me
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:29 AM (zp+j1)
Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:29 AM (x2rNW)
Bummer. My wife hung that moniker on me. While she was laughing at me.
Posted by: Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at July 21, 2016 07:29 AM (WVsWD)
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 21, 2016 07:29 AM (2EbTQ)
youngin
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:30 AM (zp+j1)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 07:30 AM (Tw/PN)
was 3 months old. My sister remembers it, she was 5. My Mom told her to
watch, it was History. Mom was just holding me I guess. At 3 months old,
its pretty much eat, sleep, poop. I've seen video of it.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 21, 2016 07:29 AM (2EbTQ)
I was in a car going back home from Atlanta and remember hearing it on the radio.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 07:31 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 07:31 AM (WVsWD)
A federal judge considering a legal challenge brought by Dana Zzyym urged the State Department on Wednesday to settle the case in a way that allows Zzyym to get a passport without having to lie about being a man or a woman. Zzyym, who was born with ambiguous sexual characteristics, was raised as a boy and later identified as intersex.
The gender on Zzyyms birth certificate originally was left blank although the document was later amended to say unknown. Zzyym, who lives in Fort Collins, served in the Navy as a man before identifying as intersex while working and studying at Colorado State University.
Sigh...I wonder where he showered in The Navy?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:32 AM (zp+j1)
[whistling Dixie]
[nods in a friendly manner]
[stops whistling. Starts Humming Battle Hymn of the Republic]
[Casually stolls on by]
Posted by: Henri
*shoots Henri in the knee*
What? He looked suspicious. Look at him looking all suspicious.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2016 07:33 AM (1xUj/)
Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:34 AM (x2rNW)
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 21, 2016 07:35 AM (2EbTQ)
She didn't have to. If she wanted something, all she had to do was tell her sugar daddy. He would steal it for her.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 07:36 AM (WVsWD)
I know, right?
*rifles through pockets.*
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 07:36 AM (Tw/PN)
Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 07:36 AM (x2rNW)
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 21, 2016 07:37 AM (3C84c)
Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2016 07:37 AM (sdi6R)
She didn't have to. If she wanted something, all she had to do was tell her sugar daddy. He would steal it for her.
"Daddy, can I have Poland?"
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 21, 2016 07:38 AM (3C84c)
Potential terror attack in Australia stopped.
Sounds like police were target.
a blip on fox news
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 21, 2016 07:40 AM (qCMvj)
Sydney police station 'terror attack': Man 'drives car filled with gas cylinders into underground car park'
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 21, 2016 07:42 AM (qCMvj)
Posted by: grammie winger at July 21, 2016 07:42 AM (dFi94)
The suspected attacker was arrested inside the car park after reportedly setting himself on fire.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 21, 2016 07:42 AM (qCMvj)
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at July 21, 2016 07:43 AM (dBmVV)
Posted by: grammie winger at July 21, 2016 07:42 AM (dFi94)
I thought he was pretty good. So he is no fireball. He seemed genuine and made sense. I was very impressed with him, not only last night but over the last few weeks
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:44 AM (zp+j1)
"Good Rainy Day Morning. This is your causal strolling reporter Henri reporting from the streets of Cleveland where this reporter was mugged by reality.
Left over mobs of GOP delegates, still puncy from the racus chaos of the previous nights dominance testing, brutally shot me in the knee with some unknown weapon by some unseen assailent. All I could tell investiagors was, 'It hurt like hell.'
[cue video of reporter limping toward ambulance]
Posted by: Henri at July 21, 2016 07:44 AM (aC1io)
:-)
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 21, 2016 07:45 AM (2EbTQ)
Sounds like police were target.
a blip on fox news
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 21, 2016 07:40 AM (qCMvj)
Sigh, yup...the attack in Nice is already yesterday's news and no mention of it...certainly no mention of islam with it
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:45 AM (zp+j1)
Pretty shitty terrorist.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 07:45 AM (Tw/PN)
Posted by: WeBoned! at July 21, 2016 07:46 AM (SOVQ8)
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 21, 2016 07:46 AM (3C84c)
He seemed genuine and made sense. I was very impressed with him, not
only last night but over the last few weeks
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 21, 2016 07:44 AM (zp+j1)
================================================
Oh, don't get me wrong - I adore Scott Walker. I've met him three times and hugged him twice. I have pictures of him holding my grandchildren. He went over to Kosovo (or was it Iraq? Can't remember and shared a meal with my son. He says what he means and means what he says. He's a conservative who gets things done. Just in a nice, bland, Midwestern potluck kind of way. This is why I predicted he would never make it out of the primaries. Too nice.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 21, 2016 07:48 AM (dFi94)
I was 6 & 1/2. Wow.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 21, 2016 07:37 AM (3C84c)
...............
I still had a couple months of baking yet to do. On another note I didn't watch one second of the convention last night, Looks like that's a good thing.
Posted by: Molly k. at July 21, 2016 07:48 AM (F7MEq)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 21, 2016 07:48 AM (97XyN)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 07:49 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 06:51 AM (x2rNW)
Sigh... Cruz supported anyone who was willing to defend our rights and the Constitution. Anyone else is undeserving of support. I find it sad that Trump chose not to accept the responsibility that came with the support Cruz offered.
It is sadder still that you and others are still spouting Trump's primary season lies.
.
.
.Then Cruz should not have signed the pledge. A man's word is his bond and Cruz was not forced to sign that pledge.
He broke his word and he will suffer the consequences for that.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 21, 2016 07:49 AM (iONHu)
:-)"
I like this.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 07:49 AM (Tw/PN)
You are so right, Vic. Every year they start with the poor teachers need a raise drum beat. And maybe some do. So the voters pass a pay raise. Then you find out most of the raise is going to administration! Teachers who get tired of teaching, but don't want to retire just yet, get some strings pulled and go into administration. Voters fooled again.
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at July 21, 2016 07:52 AM (SXa8W)
You are like Jonah Goldberg in that it is more important to you to keep your "conservative values" and thereby let Hillary win than to support Trump.
I am sick of this shit. "Perfect" is the enemy of "good enough."
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 21, 2016 07:59 AM (4+VII)
of primaries. I have seen this State's court decision reflecting how
primaries will be held.
So there is at least one State whose court does not agree with you.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 21, 2016 07:24 AM (mpXpK)
I looked up the SCOTUS decisions a while back but will leave that research to you. Yes, IF parties choose a primary, the state has some control over how it is held but states cannot force parties to hold primaries (rather than internally held and paid for methods of choosing candidates).
Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 08:13 AM (9dfKD)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 21, 2016 07:59 AM (4+VII)
Our estimation of whether Trump is "good enough" or even "all that different from Hillary" is obviously different than yours.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 08:15 AM (9dfKD)
He broke his word and he will suffer the consequences for that.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 21, 2016 07:49 AM (iONHu)
I would hate to see you talk to an abused spouse:
"Yes, I know he beat you but you promised til death do you part! OATHBREAKER!?!"
Posted by: redbanzai at July 21, 2016 08:17 AM (9dfKD)
Or if Cruz said, here's my speech, except I'm still not sure I can endorse you at the end of it, and Trump thought there was no way Cruz wouldn't buckle in the heat of the moment.
Or did Trump know about the non-endorsement and want to get his supporters all foam-flecked and spittle-flying before his big appearance tonight?
Or was he viewing it as "look, even this guy who hates me hates Cankles more"? Enemy of my enemy, etc.
Or was he just amused, because that would be the end of any "gee, if only Cruz had won" lookbacks.
Or, best scenario, was this speech the first of a one, two punch, with Trump delivering the knock-out tonight?
"Hey, *TED CRUZ*, I *AM* THE CONSTITUTIONAL CHOICE! I *AM* THE LAW AND ORDER CANDIDATE!" Crowd, primed for this moment, goes absolutely fucking nuts. Clip played over and over again in the Cruz-hatin' media.
Or....Ted Cruz was being a dick. I mean, I still like him (holds up bullet-proof shield), but that's his rep. If he uses his dickishness for good, then I'm okay with it. But this was not the time. I'm not thrilled that I have to vote for Trump, either, but the choice is clear, now.
Posted by: Gem at July 21, 2016 08:17 AM (uaHyk)
Posted by: bjk at July 21, 2016 08:20 AM (x2rNW)
Trump did not bring Teddy to the convention and give him a speaking slot so that he would explode.
The thief tossed himself from the top of the temple all on his own and for absolutely no good reason whatsoever.
Posted by: Drider at July 21, 2016 08:25 AM (bdzyz)
I'm with banzai. All you Trumpkins getting offended by Cruz not kissing Trump's ring are hilarious. He congratulated him, he spoke passionately about freedom and encouraged voters not to sit home and to vote for the person who would defend the constitution.
And all y'all heard was what? Did he accuse Trump of not wanting to follow the constitution? Nope. Did he emplore anyone there to vote for Hillary. Nope.
Y'all taking ownership of being offended is pretty typical of liberals. Own it. You can't seriously believe anybody there is going to change their vote based on what Ted Cruz said.
Posted by: DanMan at July 21, 2016 08:32 AM (zCcPL)
He certainly chose his own path with his non-endorsement!
Probably to his (short term? long term?) detriment.
I will certainly vote for Trump over the corrupt, treasonous, lying, felon.
That is a fcuking no-brainer.
This teapot-tempest will pass.
Cruz will fade away until his Senate race, and then Texas will decide his fate.
So, let's just chill a bit, my pretties....
Posted by: Ian Galt at July 21, 2016 08:35 AM (8iiMU)
Ayep, he did.
Nobody asked him to endorse Trump before he got on that stage. Once there all he had to do was leave off one of his last lines that "ABSLOUTELY DID" say to vote for Hillary. Directly even unless you feel that Hillary/Johnson/write in is not on the ticket that he wants people to look up and down before voting.
Posted by: Drider at July 21, 2016 08:40 AM (bdzyz)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 21, 2016 08:57 AM (4+VII)
I'm talking about the people who seem so offended Cruz wouldn't fluff Trump. Looks like we're going to have the Peter King wing of the GOP ascending for awhile. I'll vote for Trump but I'm not motivated and it sure ain't Cruz's fault.
Posted by: DanMan at July 21, 2016 10:49 AM (RusNE)
Posted by: Javems at July 21, 2016 11:12 AM (yOqwj)
Posted by: DanMan at July 21, 2016 11:41 AM (RusNE)
I was in Morcote, IT on Lake Lugano in 2008 and not only was no Muslim garb to be seen, it wasn't even a topic of conversation.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 25, 2016 03:23 AM (mgbwf)
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