Overnight Open Thread (7-10-2016)

That said, I do think NSA's greatest success in the Cold War was preventing us all from being blown to bits in World War III. That's a negative argument which you can't prove of course. But until the advent of real-time photoreconnaissance satellites in the 1970s and 80s, SIGINT was the primary source of early warning of Soviet military activity and in particular was the only real source of strategic warning of Soviet preparations that would precede a nuclear attack. The reassurance that NSA's surveillance gave US leaders that the Soviets could not launch a first strike without us having significant warning greatly reduced the hair trigger of the Cold War nuclear standoff. And we specifically know, as I note in the book, that during some key crises in the Cold War-such as the Suez Crisis in 1956-the information NSA provided was crucial in convincing US leaders that Soviet threats of military intervention were a bluff, not backed up by any actual movement or mobilization of its forces, which greatly helped to defuse those crises. It's not hard to imagine an escalation that could quickly have gotten out of hand had we been in the dark and left to guess what the Soviets were up to.

-- from an interview with Stephen Budiansky, author of Code Warriors

The Statistics Behind Gun Violence: Mass shootings in the U.S. have fallen so much in the past century that the political left has had to redefine what a mass shooting is

On average only 1.28 people were killed during each mass shooting in 2015 (and this may include the shooter).

#BLM Making the Unbalanced Go Off, Get Killed

Of Course: #BlackLivesMatter Rally Segregates Speakers by Race

Why Black Lives Don't Really Matter

Black lives don't matter. How do I know this? Because if black lives really mattered, blacks would stop killing each other. Blacks would stop committing genocide against themselves by aborting more children than they allow to be born. Blacks would stop consigning generations to poverty by having the majority of their children out-of-wedlock. And blacks would stop treating education as punishment and instead treat it as an opportunity.

Until blacks start changing these pathologies, the whole "Black Lives Matter" movement, with its insistence that everyone has to change except for blacks themselves is nothing more than Progressive kabuki theater aimed at diverting attention from the fact that Democrats are facilitating self-destructive behaviors in the black community and that blacks are using the Democrat propaganda machine as an excuse to avoid the terrible (but not insurmountable) challenges that really claim black lives.

US State Department Expels 2 Russians in Retaliation After Attack on US Diplomat

The Obama administration really wanted to keep this quiet but then Russia started broadcasting the video on domestic television.

China Rattling Its Sabers in the East China Sea

[T]he latest clash on June 17 threatened to turn dangerous, according to a statement by China's ministry of defence on Monday, when Japanese warplanes used fire-control radar to "light up" Chinese counterparts and released infrared flares during evasive manoeuvres. Japan's deputy chief of cabinet on Tuesday denied China's claims.
Both sides agree a pair of Chinese SU-30 fighter-bombers encountered two Japanese F-15 fighters somewhere over the East China Sea, where China and Japan dispute ownership of a group of islands known in Japan as the Senkaku and China as the Diaoyu. The nations also claim overlapping Air Defence Identification Zones, which require foreign aircraft to identify themselves.
Japanese officials say China has increased its military activity in the sea and air, obliging Japan to almost double its scrambling of aircraft to engage Chinese jets over the past three months.

America Now has the Largest Oil Reserves in the World Thanks to Fracking

And against the best efforts of the Obama administration.

The New Nigerian Email Scam Is to Offer Reparations to Victims of Nigerian Email Scams

A kind of diabolical genius since victims are highly likely to be gullible to other scams.

Generation Snowflake

The Code That Took America to the Moon Was Just Published to GitHub, and It's Like a 1960s Time Capsule

Including everything from pop culture references to Shakespeare quotes to coder hopes that their code will be only be a temporary hack. The modern suggested fixes are pretty funny as well.

Weekly Commenter Standings

Top 10 commenters:
1 [608 comments] 'ThunderB' [85.33 posts/day]
2 [485 comments] 'J.J. Sefton'
3 [467 comments] 'Jane D'oh'
4 [459 comments] 'Skip'
5 [449 comments] 'iforgot'
6 [422 comments] 'Insomniac'
7 [389 comments] 'Nevergiveup'
8 [374 comments] 'Mr. Peebles'
9 [357 comments] 'rickb223 TEXIT'
10 [340 comments] 'Mike Hammer, etc., etc.'

Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [140 names] 'SMOD, take me away' [19.65 unique names/day]
2 [55 names] 'The Political Hat'
3 [40 names] 'garrett'
4 [37 names] 'Insomniac'
5 [37 names] 'Mike Hammer, etc., etc.'
6 [36 names] 'Bertram Cabot Jr.'
7 [35 names] 'davidt'
8 [33 names] 'Sandra Flook'
9 [32 names] 'TeamRawDog'
10 [24 names] 'Cicero (@cicero)'

The group. Banned on 12 universities.

Where it's at - the Twitter

Tonight's post brought to you by a view of Mars, taken by Curiosity in Sep. 2015:

Notice: Posted by permission of AceCorp LLC. Please e-mail overnight open thread tips to the contacts or leave in usual dead drops.

Posted by: Maetenloch at 11:46 PM

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1 Hallo

Posted by: Patina Awry Newt...the anagram is going r&r at July 10, 2016 11:47 PM (Bc1aB)

2 hot damn

Posted by: Vertov at July 10, 2016 11:48 PM (5RwQo)

3 Howdy, y'all!

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT Hobbit at July 10, 2016 11:49 PM (nvMvs)

4 PANTS!

Posted by: Joel and the Bots at July 10, 2016 11:50 PM (R1ejq)

5 An ONT worth staying up late for!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 10, 2016 11:50 PM (v5iqM)

6 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 10, 2016 11:50 PM (T/cxb)

7 Happy-ish Sunday Evening, all y'all ...

Don't let the buzzards get you down.

No really. You ever seen what they can do with a carcass? #gross

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 10, 2016 11:51 PM (AoK0a)

8 Hola, amigoz en loz intertuboz!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at July 10, 2016 11:51 PM (EzgxV)

9 O' la, cooth ... coo coo ca choo

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 10, 2016 11:52 PM (AoK0a)

10 Love those Mars pictures.

And that code..

I got into a discussion of the Lunar Lander 'computer' with another moron who directed me to a web site of the guy who actually wrote the code.

As I understand his description, the 'computer' wasn't a computer as we would think about it now, but was a breadboard wired diode matrix of NAND/AND gates.

Posted by: Rayland Breeluster at July 10, 2016 11:52 PM (3jGXJ)

11 Here is the "News of the Week" compilation of the news.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=12134

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 10, 2016 11:53 PM (vBeA5)

12 Movin' on up the Puppeht list.

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2016 11:55 PM (ggrt+)

13 9
O' la, cooth ... coo coo ca choo

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 10, 2016 11:52 PM (AoK0a)

See how they snied....

Posted by: cthulhu at July 10, 2016 11:55 PM (EzgxV)

14 As always thanks, Maet.

Sup Chi! I know you're reading.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 10, 2016 11:55 PM (R5HRU)

15 ".. from an interview with Stephen Budiansky, author of Code Warriors"
--------------

Author of a bunch of related books, including the excellent, Moron Recommended 'Battle of Wits: The Complete Story of Codebreaking in World War II'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 10, 2016 11:55 PM (Z58Xa)

16 Gotta go chemjeff some beef. Back in a flash.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 10, 2016 11:56 PM (EzgxV)

17 Pfft. Those pics of Mars suck.

There's no half naked Barsoomian pricess.

Posted by: zombie Edgar Rice Burroughs at July 10, 2016 11:57 PM (H9MG5)

18 Sure, Mars.

Thats the Mojave Desert, the same place they faked the moon landing!!!! Or was that Nevada?

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 10, 2016 11:57 PM (nQNVp)

19 Woot woot ont

Posted by: Mis. Hum at July 10, 2016 11:57 PM (voOPb)

20 Is that Mars or Northeast Arizona?

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2016 11:57 PM (ggrt+)

21 *Princess.

Yeah, where were you on that one, shitty worthless autocucumber?

Posted by: zombie Edgar Rice Burroughs at July 10, 2016 11:58 PM (H9MG5)

22 Tonight's post brought to you by a view of Mars, taken by Curiosity in Sep. 2015:

I don't see the sni ...

Posted by: Mark Watney at July 10, 2016 11:58 PM (1KKpn)

23 Thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 10, 2016 11:58 PM (3ZoRf)

24 Princess and the Autocucumber?

I think I saw that pron..

Posted by: JarvisW at July 10, 2016 11:59 PM (R1ejq)

25
"stirring the cryo tanks'

Appollo 13 calamity.

The reason for that was the circuits were designed to operate at 24 volts, and the preflight certification by the supplier was preformed at 120v because the higher voltage would mask problems that might appear at lower voltages. The higher voltage burned off the insulation of a wire inside the tank.

Posted by: Rayland Breeluster at July 10, 2016 11:59 PM (3jGXJ)

26 Happy Sun Goin' Down,
On a sleepy little town,
usually called PHX, AZ ...

And the folks down there,
have long hair,
but sure as hell ain't a hippy ...

or.something.like.that.

Happy Sun Going Down, finally, Blanco Basura ...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 11, 2016 12:00 AM (AoK0a)

27 I see the Ont is awash in happy societal bits & pieces

Posted by: Mis. Hum at July 11, 2016 12:00 AM (voOPb)

28
The Code That Took America to the Moon Was Just Published to GitHub

The AGC code has been available to the public for quite a while it was first uploaded by tech researcher Ron Burkey in 2003, after hed transcribed it from scanned images of the original hardcopies MIT had put online. That is, he manually typed out each line, one by one.

He could have finished the typing in half the time, if not for the constant interruptions from his hot blonde Canadian girlfriend demanding sex.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 11, 2016 12:01 AM (kdS6q)

29 Russians are not suicidal, that was the main deterrent to WWIII.

Posted by: Newt...the anagram is going r&r at July 11, 2016 12:01 AM (Bc1aB)

30 Is that Mars or Northeast Arizona?

Is there a difference?

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 11, 2016 12:01 AM (AoK0a)

31 Mars? That looks like the Palestinian National Forest.

Posted by: t-bird at July 11, 2016 12:01 AM (yddCj)

32 Halfrican is one of my favorite handles here.
It helps that he is a pretty cool mf, too.

Timeout to go see who this punk is sitting on the curb taking on the phone.
This is suburbia, asshole. We don't do that shit at midnight around here.

Posted by: Chi at July 11, 2016 12:02 AM (WDs/x)

33 >>Is that Mars or Northeast Arizona?

>Is there a difference?

Well, there might be water on Mars.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2016 12:02 AM (ggrt+)

34
Oh, and sigint. I had a personal experience with that one time. I knew a guy who was an airborne radio op in search and rescue. And one afternoon, while twirling the dial on a short wave receiver, recognized his voice, and in that instant knew who he was, where he was, which aircraft he was on, where he was headed, and what his mission was.

Spooky.

I had a friend who was a morse intercept operator in Turkey. He used to tell stories.

Posted by: Rayland Breeluster at July 11, 2016 12:03 AM (3jGXJ)

35 Happy Sun Going Down, finally, Blanco Basura ...

It's not the sun going down that I worry about, it's what comes out after.

And a happy sundown to you, Miss Adriane.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 11, 2016 12:03 AM (T/cxb)

36 genocide against themselves by aborting more children than they allow to be born.

!!

Posted by: t-bird at July 11, 2016 12:05 AM (yddCj)

37 I would trust 1960s code over what passes as code nowadays.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2016 12:05 AM (AZagi)

38 Breaking: U.S. Evacuates Staff From South Sudan Embassy

South Sudan: United States Demands an Immediate End to Fighting in South Sudan

In response to ongoing violence in South Sudan, the Department of State ordered today the departure of non-emergency personnel from the U.S. Embassy in Juba. U.S. citizens in South Sudan are advised to take precautions to enhance their personal security and should check U.S. Embassy Juba's website for the latest consular information, including security messages and the latest Travel Warning. The Embassy's ability to provide emergency services to U.S. citizens in Juba is extremely limited.

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 12:05 AM (R1ejq)

39 Bridge over River Kwai is on. Love that movie, sorry for the OT

Posted by: Mis. Hum at July 11, 2016 12:05 AM (voOPb)

40 It's not the sun going down that I worry about, it's what comes out after.

** pushes garlic, silver bullets, and hippy repellant through the USB port **

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 11, 2016 12:06 AM (AoK0a)

41 Breaking: U.S. Evacuates Staff From South Sudan Embassy

South Sudan: United States Demands an Immediate End to Fighting in South Sudan

In response to ongoing violence in South Sudan, the Department of State ordered today the departure of non-emergency personnel from the U.S. Embassy in Juba. U.S. citizens in South Sudan are advised to take precautions to enhance their personal security and should check U.S. Embassy Juba's website for the latest consular information, including security messages and the latest Travel Warning. The Embassy's ability to provide emergency services to U.S. citizens in Juba is extremely limited.

Posted by: JarvisW
****
So we are stamping our feet and yelling at them to stop?

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 11, 2016 12:06 AM (hVdx9)

42 Ha, I wasn't the only one that thought that photo looks like the Mojave desert.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 11, 2016 12:06 AM (hscyr)

43 Posted by: Chi at July 11, 2016 12:02 AM (WDs/x)

Ha thanks. Be easy on that guy/gal Chi they might be hammered and calling for a cab.

How've you been?

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 11, 2016 12:07 AM (R5HRU)

44 ** pushes garlic, silver bullets, and hippy repellant through the USB port **

Always so thoughtful.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 11, 2016 12:07 AM (T/cxb)

45 United States Demands an Immediate End to Fighting in South Sudan

Yeah, that'll work.

Posted by: t-bird at July 11, 2016 12:07 AM (yddCj)

46 I would trust 1960s code over what passes as code nowadays

Well, that depends. I once wrote some ASM code that trashed the data on three 5 1/4 inch floppies in the time it takes to 'hit return'.

Posted by: Rayland Breeluster at July 11, 2016 12:07 AM (3jGXJ)

47 So we are stamping our feet and yelling at them to stop?
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 11, 2016 12:06 AM (hVdx9)

Sounds like.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 12:07 AM (3ZoRf)

48 Well, there might be water on Mars.

Hey! We have water ... at Safeway, Fry's, Circle K ...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 11, 2016 12:08 AM (AoK0a)

49 So we are stamping our feet and yelling at them to stop?
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale

The United States strongly condemns the latest outbreak of fighting in Juba today between forces aligned with President Salva Kiir Mayardit and those aligned with First Vice President Riek Machar Teny, including reports we have that civilian sites may have been attacked. We again call on both leaders and their political allies and commanders to immediately restrain their forces from further fighting, return them to barracks, and prevent additional violence and bloodshed.

Um, yep

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 12:08 AM (R1ejq)

50 *scribbles note on how to deal with an approaching wave of zombies looking to snack*

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2016 12:08 AM (AZagi)

51 >>>Breaking: U.S. Evacuates Staff From South Sudan Embassy
<<<

...

Posted by: zombies Amb. Stevens, Sean Smith, Tyrone Woods, Glen Doherty at July 11, 2016 12:08 AM (H9MG5)

52 >>United States Demands an Immediate End to Fighting in South Sudan

#SeriousYouGuys!

Posted by: State Department Twitter Feed at July 11, 2016 12:08 AM (ggrt+)

53 46 I would trust 1960s code over what passes as code nowadays

Well, that depends. I once wrote some ASM code that trashed the data on three 5 1/4 inch floppies in the time it takes to 'hit return'.

Posted by: Rayland Breeluster at July 11, 2016 12:07 AM (3jGXJ)

That's cool. We know you didn't intend to do that

Posted by: Mis. Hum at July 11, 2016 12:09 AM (voOPb)

54 16
Gotta go chemjeff some beef. Back in a flash.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 10, 2016 11:56 PM (EzgxV)

K, I'm back. Did I miss anything?

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 12:09 AM (EzgxV)

55 Bridge over River Kwai is on. Love that movie, sorry for the OT
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i didn't know you could be OT on the ONT...

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 12:09 AM (7XWyA)

56 52 >>United States Demands an Immediate End to Fighting in South Sudan

#SeriousYouGuys!
Posted by: State Department Twitter Feed at July 11, 2016 12:08 AM (ggrt+)

#BringBackOurBalls

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 12:10 AM (3ZoRf)

57 Gotta go chemjeff some beef. Back in a flash.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 10, 2016 11:56 PM (EzgxV)

K, I'm back. Did I miss anything?

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 12:09 AM

You used the microwave, didn't you!

Posted by: Rayland Breeluster at July 11, 2016 12:10 AM (3jGXJ)

58 Dean Rusk's words to a Senate committee have come to pass.

Now when the United States says 'Gentlemen this must end,' the countries involve laugh and keep killing.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2016 12:10 AM (AZagi)

59 Mars photo shows evidence of aeolian erosion. Not seeing much evidence of sedimentary layering, which is commonplace in Arizona badlands. I know there is some evidence of sedimentary structures on Mars.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 12:10 AM (GSdpU)

60 Wandering in. Hey, ONT. Out time.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 11, 2016 12:10 AM (9ym/8)

61 Blanco Basura at July 11, 2016 12:07 AM (T/cxb)

well apparently all the helicopters last night were monitoring a BLM tear gas & Jazz Music Festival downtown ... but mostly tear gas ...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 11, 2016 12:10 AM (AoK0a)

62 So we are stamping our feet and yelling at them to stop?
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 11, 2016 12:06 AM (hVdx9)

****

They should be scared. A moderately worded Tweet may be coming their way. The horror.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 11, 2016 12:10 AM (YLidQ)

63 #BringBackOurBalls
Posted by: Aetius451AD

#this

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 12:11 AM (R1ejq)

64 >>Not seeing much evidence of sedimentary layering

To see the layers you have to import the photos into Photoshop.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2016 12:11 AM (ggrt+)

65 K, I'm back. Did I miss anything?

Maet bought us all Ferraris.

Posted by: sorry at July 11, 2016 12:11 AM (1KKpn)

66 South Sudan has always been at war with North Coupe.

East Convertible remains ... in neutral.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 11, 2016 12:12 AM (v5iqM)

67 >>Not seeing much evidence of sedimentary layering

To see the layers you have to import the photos into Photoshop.
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Thread Winner!

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 12:13 AM (7XWyA)

68 61 well apparently all the helicopters last night were monitoring a BLM tear gas & Jazz Music Festival downtown ... but mostly tear gas ...
Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 11, 2016 12:10 AM (AoK0a)

Adriane! Nicely done.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 11, 2016 12:13 AM (hscyr)

69 67 meet 66

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 12:13 AM (R1ejq)

70 >>>didn't know you could be OT on the ONT...

Couple of hundred posts in? No
Number 39. Kind of. Maet has a lot of good stuff up tonight. As usual

Posted by: Mis. Hum at July 11, 2016 12:13 AM (voOPb)

71 Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 11, 2016 12:12 AM (v5iqM)

Was that sudan Tudor or Fordor?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 12:13 AM (GSdpU)

72 Maet bought us all Ferraris
Hi. You owe us $20,000 in taxes on those. We expect the check in 2 days or we seize all your bank accounts.

Posted by: the IRS at July 11, 2016 12:13 AM (P1hwM)

73 49
So we are stamping our feet and yelling at them to stop?

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale

The United States strongly condemns the latest outbreak of fighting
in Juba today between forces aligned with President Salva Kiir Mayardit
and those aligned with First Vice President Riek Machar Teny, including
reports we have that civilian sites may have been attacked. We again
call on both leaders and their political allies and commanders to
immediately restrain their forces from further fighting, return them to
barracks, and prevent additional violence and bloodshed.

Um, yep

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 12:08 AM (R1ejq)

Did they leave the edits in the Word document where they deleted "Syria" and "Assad" and inserted "South Sudan" and "Mayardit" again?

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 12:14 AM (EzgxV)

74 West Pickup is on blocks out in the front yard

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 12:14 AM (7XWyA)

75 South Sudan has always been at war with North Coupe.

East Convertible remains ... in neutral.

Well go Explorer over there and bring us back a report ...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 11, 2016 12:14 AM (AoK0a)

76 "East Convertible remains ... in neutral. "

Western pickup rolls up.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 11, 2016 12:14 AM (9ym/8)

77 My girlfriend had some aeolian erosion; rubbing some vitamin E on it did the trick.

Posted by: gNewt...the anagram's replaced at July 11, 2016 12:14 AM (Bc1aB)

78 well apparently all the helicopters last night were monitoring a BLM tear gas & Jazz Music Festival downtown ... but mostly tear gas ...

Brings a tear to my eye just thinking about it.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 11, 2016 12:15 AM (T/cxb)

79 Has the White House released a schedule of #BLM tour dates yet? I'm flying to Michigan via Chicago and the insurance company wants to know.

Posted by: t-bird at July 11, 2016 12:15 AM (eeTCA)

80 You get a Ferrari! And YOU get a Ferrari! And YOU get a Ferrari! And you... Wait - where's cth? Fuck it.

Posted by: Oprah Maetfry at July 11, 2016 12:15 AM (WDs/x)

81 The John Batchelor show is on at 9pm EDST available on https://www.talkstreamlive.com/

They are always talking about the goings on regarding China's military expansionism. Also Russia. Lots of stuff happening that doesn't make it into the "normal" newscasts.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 11, 2016 12:15 AM (IqV8l)

82 Was that sudan Tudor or Fordor?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 12:13 AM (GSdpU)

Hodor Hodor. hodor.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 11, 2016 12:16 AM (v5iqM)

83 >>>Was that sudan Tudor or Fordor?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 12:13 AM (GSdpU) <<<

In Sudan, probably an Impala.

Posted by: all. my. friends. know the lowrider at July 11, 2016 12:16 AM (H9MG5)

84 57
Gotta go chemjeff some beef. Back in a flash.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 10, 2016 11:56 PM (EzgxV)

K, I'm back. Did I miss anything?

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 12:09 AM

You used the microwave, didn't you!

Posted by: Rayland Breeluster at July 11, 2016 12:10 AM (3jGXJ)

Nope -- pan-fried it exactly like I told him to do. It's a nice medium with good sear.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 12:16 AM (EzgxV)

85 Okay, Chi, you're a Cab!

Posted by: andycanuck at July 11, 2016 12:16 AM (P1hwM)

86 @74 stole my line.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 11, 2016 12:16 AM (9ym/8)

87 bebe's boobs destroy at July 11, 2016 12:13 AM (hscyr)

bebe!

hope things are going better with certain 2 legged varmints ...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 11, 2016 12:16 AM (AoK0a)

88 Nigerian scams? Or any scam.

"You can't cheat and honest man". (or woman).

No matter how gullible or naive the key trait that all victims of scams have in common is that they thought they could get something for nothing or at least less than it actually should cost.

That's the core of all scams; invite the victim to believe YOU are the naive and gullible one and that THEY will get a larger reward than what should be expected.

If you try this with an honest man, they will either turn the offer down outright or ask questions that will soon expose the "hook" in the bait.

And there's ALWAYS hook.

Many of them rely upon the seeming low value of what the victim has to contribute for a seemingly large return.

That's the heart of any good scam to convince the victim that no one would go through all this trouble for so low an amount of money.

They don't realize that first, it's tax free. second there's usually additional "fees" or delays that can only be remedied by . . more money.

Nibbled to death by ducks.

Might as well just tear hundred dollar bills up and flush them down a toilet.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 11, 2016 12:16 AM (ECJ+C)

89 >>My girlfriend had some aeolian erosion; rubbing some vitamin E on it did the trick.

I hoped you rubbed it on her viola.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2016 12:17 AM (ggrt+)

90 I really hate that new jazz.. All yelling and screaming, but no real rhythm to it..

Well, until the amplified billy-clubs start swinging..

THEN, its watchable.

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 12:17 AM (R1ejq)

91 Hi. You owe us $20,000 in taxes on those. We expect the check in 2 days or we seize all your bank accounts.
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fooled you!

i don't have any bank accounts any more.

or a 4.01k either.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 12:17 AM (7XWyA)

92 West Pickup is on blocks out in the front yard!!!

Posted by: amy schumer at July 11, 2016 12:17 AM (P1hwM)

93 65
K, I'm back. Did I miss anything?

Maet bought us all Ferraris.

Posted by: sorry at July 11, 2016 12:11 AM (1KKpn)

I'd believe that he was handing out ampersand privileges....

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 12:17 AM (EzgxV)

94 "You get a Ferrari! And YOU get a Ferrari! And YOU get a Ferrari! "

And a bill. Now you own it. Put that fcuker in the shop.

Heh.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 11, 2016 12:18 AM (9ym/8)

95 And a bill. Now you own it. Put that fcuker in the shop.

Can't afford to, already paid the insurance.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 11, 2016 12:19 AM (T/cxb)

96 They should be scared. A moderately worded Tweet may be coming their way. The horror.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty
****

And they might go nuclear on them with a hash tag!

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 11, 2016 12:19 AM (hVdx9)

97 70
>>>didn't know you could be OT on the ONT...

Couple of hundred posts in? No

Number 39. Kind of. Maet has a lot of good stuff up tonight. As usual

Posted by: Mis. Hum at July 11, 2016 12:13 AM (voOPb)

Maet does spoil us.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 12:19 AM (EzgxV)

98 >Don't let the buzzards get you down.

Vultures. Buzzards. Gulches where they found dead things.

All these thoughts got mixed in my 7 yr old mind, in FL. The circling birds became Gultures and Vuzzards.

Posted by: Ti at July 11, 2016 12:19 AM (v9gSJ)

99 Hey everybody.

It's Sunday, time for some rockin' Christian rock music!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuFkavneS60

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 12:19 AM (q7T0y)

100 AoP could probably build a Hordor Tudor with a rag-top from all the parts squirreled away.

Or this?
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/selection-du-weekend-200-10.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2016 12:19 AM (AZagi)

101 87 hope things are going better with certain 2 legged varmints ...
Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 11, 2016 12:16 AM (AoK0a)

Meh. About the same. How are things there?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 11, 2016 12:19 AM (hscyr)

102 I believe that in Russia, 80% of pregnancies are aborted. Talk about self genocide.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 11, 2016 12:20 AM (gxcgC)

103 Does anyone know what model Ferarri we are getting?

I want to put mine on ebay before everyone else does.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2016 12:20 AM (ggrt+)

104 Highly satisfactory content Maet. Thanks!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 11, 2016 12:20 AM (hyuyC)

105 Don't Bug me, man!

Posted by: VW at July 11, 2016 12:20 AM (IqV8l)

106 98 WORST ELTON JOHN SONG EVAH!

Posted by: Music Critic Guy at July 11, 2016 12:20 AM (R1ejq)

107 Mars. Ha! More like front screen projection.

Posted by: Zombie Stanley Kubrick at July 11, 2016 12:20 AM (/BTP8)

108 72
Maet bought us all Ferraris

Hi. You owe us $20,000 in taxes on those. We expect the check in 2 days or we seize all your bank accounts.

Posted by: the IRS at July 11, 2016 12:13 AM (P1hwM)

Someone said it on the ONT, so it must be true. We just passed along the info.

Posted by: The NSA at July 11, 2016 12:20 AM (EzgxV)

109 Or this?

That looks so very Russian.

Posted by: t-bird at July 11, 2016 12:20 AM (yddCj)

110 So we are stamping our feet and yelling at them to stop?
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 11, 2016 12:06 AM (hVdx9)

They are yelling "Stop, or we'll say Stop again!!!!"

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2016 12:20 AM (nQNVp)

111
>>>Mars photo shows evidence of aeolian erosion.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 12:10 AM (GSdpU)<<<

At least they didn't use Miracle Whip.

Posted by: The Mayo Wars, Day 538 at July 11, 2016 12:20 AM (H9MG5)

112 Does anyone know what model Ferarri we are getting?

We're not getting Ferraris, we're getting 25-cent boxes of Ferrara Pan candies.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 12:21 AM (q7T0y)

113 Yuimetal - in the bad old soviet days, abortion was pretty much the only contraception available. In the hospitals, it got to the point that the staff would, in the case of a repeat customer, just go ahead and sterilize her while they were at it.

Horrible regime.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 11, 2016 12:21 AM (v4xjc)

114 Does anyone know what model Ferarri we are getting?

You get your pick from the Hot Wheels display.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 11, 2016 12:22 AM (T/cxb)

115 Somebody mention me??

No?

Oh well, WATCH TOP GEAR US!!

(cause no-one else is!)

Posted by: Adam Ferrara at July 11, 2016 12:22 AM (R1ejq)

116 In the bad old days of the Soviet Union... you are assuming the sub-standard methods and hygiene did not already render the patient sterile... or dead.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2016 12:23 AM (AZagi)

117 Oh, and thanks to whomever here brought up Toffifay candies a few days ago.

I got such a bad craving that I just ordered a box of 'em on Amazon, only place they can be found anymore.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 12:23 AM (q7T0y)

118 When programmers started to program in higher languages is when code bloat took over.

Making someone code in Macro Assembly Language makes the programmer visualize what the system is doing at all times.

I wrote a program in assembler that was like 90 bytes or so.

The same program written in a higher language (Pascal in this example) was over 500 bytes.

That's not much but when you start building programs with millions of lines of code, that difference can make a, well, difference.

It also makes it slower.

We don't understand how slow current languages are because the machines have gotten so fast and memory so large.

I blame (of course I do) Microsoft.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 11, 2016 12:23 AM (ECJ+C)

119 Frankly, given the horrors of the 20th century, it's a wonder there are any Russians left at all. Limping from WWI to the revolution and its famines, then to WWII, with unimaginable losses of life.....

They still haven't bounced back, population wise, and might never.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 11, 2016 12:24 AM (v4xjc)

120 I think it'd be cool as hell to own a vintage Lamborghini tractor, from before he got pissed at Ferrari and chose to build a competing car.

Plow the back forty in record time?

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 11, 2016 12:24 AM (v5iqM)

121
In the bad old days of the Soviet Union... you are assuming the sub-standard methods and hygiene did not already render the patient sterile... or dead.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2016 12:23 AM

But it was free!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 11, 2016 12:24 AM (IqV8l)

122 114. You get your pick from the Hot Wheels display.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 11, 2016 12:22 AM (T/

Way cheaper to maintain.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 11, 2016 12:24 AM (hscyr)

123 Supposedly the new "Top Gear" host Chris Evans is in trouble at the BBC for sexual assault.

What is it about that show that attracts hosts who apparently have no ethical boundaries?

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 12:24 AM (q7T0y)

124 We're probably getting Fiero Ferraris. Remember the AoS budget can only go so far after Valu-Rite restock.

http://car.mitula.us/fiero-ferrari-kit

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2016 12:25 AM (AZagi)

125 So we are stamping our feet and yelling at them to stop?
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 11, 2016 12:06 AM (hVdx9)

They are yelling "Stop, or we'll say Stop again!!!!"

Posted by: Puddleglum
****

That's harsh, but we have to be firm with them.
(I want off this planet)

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 11, 2016 12:25 AM (hVdx9)

126 >>>Oh well, WATCH TOP GEAR US!!

(cause no-one else is!)
Posted by: Adam Ferrara at July 11, 2016 12:22 AM (R1ejq)<<<

Too late. You're already out. Unlike me, who'll be around forever.

Wait... what?!

Posted by: Chris Evans ~~BBC Top Gear Host~~ at July 11, 2016 12:25 AM (H9MG5)

127 Heh.... They used to give out 'mat geroniya' medals - 'heroic mother' medals - to the women who had large broods of detii....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 11, 2016 12:25 AM (v4xjc)

128 I'm no Cab. I was at best a hall monitor saying "move along." Just a punk from down the street fighting with his GF over the phone.

1/2,
I've been well, I guess. You? Hope all is excellent with you and yours. I don't know if you've been scarce, or I just miss you, but did I miss any big news?

Posted by: Chi at July 11, 2016 12:25 AM (WDs/x)

129 90 I really hate that new jazz.. All yelling and screaming, but no real rhythm to it..

----
Jazz is not dead it just smells funny

Posted by: Mis. Hum at July 11, 2016 12:25 AM (voOPb)

130 Hot Wheels Ferraris

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 11, 2016 12:25 AM (hVdx9)

131 We're not getting Ferraris, we're getting 25-cent boxes of Ferrara Pan candies.
Hi. You owe us ¢ five in taxes on those. We expect the check in 2 days or we seize all your bank accounts.

Posted by: the IRS at July 11, 2016 12:26 AM (P1hwM)

132 100
AoP could probably build a Hordor Tudor with a rag-top from all the parts squirreled away.

Or this?
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/selection-du-weekend-200-10.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2016 12:19 AM (AZagi)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWHniL8MyMM

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 12:26 AM (EzgxV)

133
#BlackLivesMatter Rally Segregates Speakers by Race

Cornell University history professor Russell Rickford said "White supremacist capitalism made slavery; white supremacist capitalism made imperialism, it made colonialism, it made endless war."

Someone is a little bit fuzzy on the history of slavery, capitalism, colonialism, and probably everything else in life.

wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_J._Rickford

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 11, 2016 12:26 AM (kdS6q)

134 102 I believe that in Russia, 80% of pregnancies are aborted. Talk about self genocide.
Posted by: Yuimetal at July 11, 2016 12:20 AM (gxcgC)

And I bet the 20% that don't get aborted have Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 11, 2016 12:26 AM (1JnAL)

135 No ethical boundaries?

Jezza had one bad day and punched a producer. They made up soon after, but the BBC hated him because he wasnt a bleeding lib, so they used it to fire him.

And last I saw Evans was quitting because of disappointing ratings (but that may also be BBC doing that)

F the BBC, I'm never watching them again.

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 12:27 AM (R1ejq)

136 Oooo, I owe the IRS five cents!! Like I don't have that.

Wait, I really don't. Can someone here at the Horde help out a buddy? :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 12:27 AM (q7T0y)

137 >>I bet the 20% that don't get aborted have Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.

In hell we'll still be able to laugh at shit like this, right?

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2016 12:28 AM (ggrt+)

138 Ashley -

Yeah, and then there's that....

Alkoxolizm bich naroda.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 11, 2016 12:28 AM (v4xjc)

139 In Italy, under Mussolini, the city that had the highest birth rate that year would get a new stadium built.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2016 12:28 AM (AZagi)

140 You get a Ferrari! And YOU get a Ferrari! And YOU get a Ferrari!

I would like a Ferrari 488 GTE please.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2016 12:28 AM (nQNVp)

141 Hi. You owe us � five in taxes on those. We expect the check in 2 days or we seize all your bank accounts

I have a $15,000 overdraft position. Thanks for the bailout!

Posted by: bankrupt Moron at July 11, 2016 12:29 AM (1KKpn)

142 Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/752193232814149632

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/752193446144770048

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/752193856670760960

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/752194080633942016

Posted by: kbdabear at July 11, 2016 12:29 AM (SKXCk)

143 "I think it'd be cool as hell to own a vintage Lamborghini tractor, from before he got pissed at Ferrari and chose to build a competing car. "

An old Lambo would be duh shit. Italians can screw up a bunch of shit but the can make a tractor.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 11, 2016 12:29 AM (9ym/8)

144 No one has claimed to spot the sniper in that bottom desert-scape?

It is hard to keep a decent gillie suit over your rebreather pac, you know.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2016 12:29 AM (ry34m)

145
Posted by: Chi at July 11, 2016 12:25 AM (WDs/x)

I'm OK, I could be doing better but that's on me because I'm lazy as shit and having a hard time breaking that. The future wife is doing good too.

I'm around, I'm usually asleep by the time the ONT hits though. I happen to be up listening to some jazz mixes to unwind before bed, so yeah, no big news on my part either.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 11, 2016 12:29 AM (R5HRU)

146 This must mean we're going to have DOW 20,000 soon, right? After all, bad news = DOW gains.

The world's largest hedge fund is struggling

http://tinyurl.com/hfmq6xt

Posted by: Thrawn at July 11, 2016 12:30 AM (wQWv4)

147 Someone bought 125, $100 iTunes gift cards to pay a tax bill and did not think it was a scam until later. The Credit Card she put it on says she will still owe the $12,500 bill. The government will except a tax bill in iTunes.

Posted by: TJ at July 11, 2016 12:30 AM (6cDf/)

148 More Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/752194475632582656

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/752194654720888832

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/752195163917803520

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/752195285376495616

Posted by: kbdabear at July 11, 2016 12:30 AM (SKXCk)

149 JarvisW, sorry, I have to disagree with you on that. Jeremy Clarkson had a history of screaming, yelling at underlings and being ridiculously abusive.

I frankly don't care if you're a lib or a con, or that he's one of the UK's most famous and wealthy people. If you treat underlings like that, you deserve to get fired and embarassed in public.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 12:30 AM (q7T0y)

150 I would like a Ferrari 488 GTE please.
Posted by: Puddleglum
---------------------
We'd be happy with a couple of Ferrari shirts.

Posted by: The Guys at July 11, 2016 12:31 AM (WDs/x)

151 We like jazz too.

Posted by: the IRS at July 11, 2016 12:31 AM (P1hwM)

152 135: Top Gear is Clarkson, May, and Hammond. They have to be laughing there asses off about this.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2016 12:31 AM (nQNVp)

153 >> Making someone code in Macro Assembly Language makes the programmer visualize what the system is doing at all times.

Nobody will ever need more than 640K of memory.

Posted by: Bill Gates at July 11, 2016 12:31 AM (v9gSJ)

154 Or this?
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/selection-du-weekend-200-10.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2016 12:19 AM (AZagi)

That's pretty cool, Anna. I'd drive it with relish. And maybe some Sriracha, too.

I started, and completed, a useful project today. Had an old '37 Studebaker chassis perched precariously on three old 55 gallon drums, using it as a rack to store parts on, outside. Well, I needed the drums for something else, and it was sort of rickety the way it was. So I offloaded all the parts that were on it, chained it to the loader bucket on my tractor, and toted it around to the front of the shop. Used the cutting torch to strip off extraneous parts, like the front suspension and some frame outriggers. Then I cut some lengths of steel pipe, and welded on four legs, splayed out about 15 degrees for stability. Put flat "feet" on them, too. Welded cross bars to the legs so they were triangulated, to stop it from racking sideways, and welded in some short diagonal braces to prevent it racking longitudinally. Cleaned up the ground where it had been sitting, and hitched onto it again with the tractor, and set it back in place. Solid as a rock, it is. Got all the parts loaded back on it, and put my tools away. That corner of the yard looks much better, now.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 12:32 AM (GSdpU)

155 Even More Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/752195423977242625

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/752195829105033216

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/752195988467675136

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/752196140829970433

Posted by: kbdabear at July 11, 2016 12:32 AM (SKXCk)

156 >>>In Italy, under Mussolini, the city that had the highest birth rate that year would get a new stadium built.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2016 12:28 AM (AZagi)<<<

Hey, maybe we can get that new Rams' stadium all paid for!
Wait... do they have to be legal Americans?

Posted by: Los Angeles at July 11, 2016 12:32 AM (H9MG5)

157 Gooodnite morons
Be well

See you at The Dump

Posted by: Mis. Hum at July 11, 2016 12:32 AM (voOPb)

158 Puddleglum, would you take a Ferrari 488 Verizon? ;-)

GTE went to the great stock exchange in the sky around 1997.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 12:32 AM (q7T0y)

159 We like jazz too.

You should, he's a good dog.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 11, 2016 12:32 AM (T/cxb)

160 Its been so damned hot here I've had to ice down my chemicals when developing film. Its insane.

Although, I will say, the results are quite nice. Tempts me to make it a regular practice.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 11, 2016 12:32 AM (v4xjc)

161 Well, not making excuses, but so does O'riley, Letterman, etc, but THEY keep jobs despite it.

Im mad at THEM for the hypocrisy. AND Doing it just after the Jimmy Saville thing..

Sick.

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 12:33 AM (R1ejq)

162 As long as your dog isn't named Jizz, I guess that's okay.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 11, 2016 12:33 AM (P1hwM)

163 Gotta go chemjeff some beef. Back in a flash.
Posted by: cthulhu
---------

*readies the CO2 bottle*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2016 12:33 AM (9mTYi)

164 I would like a Ferrari 488 GTE please.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2016 12:28 AM (nQNVp)

I will take a 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO.

I will then turn around, auction it, buy a Bullitt edition mustang in good condition and use the other 37.95 million to do whatever the heck I want.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 12:34 AM (3ZoRf)

165 When I hear that some big-time conservative is being charged with sexual harassment or some other crime, am I skeptical? Sure, libs will say anything to tear down successful conservatives.

Having said that, if and when they turn out to be giant screaming assholes, I don't have so much of a problem showing them the door.

I hate both false accusations and the 'excuse' that if someone has shared beliefs and a billion dollars, that makes them exempt from their mistakes.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 12:34 AM (q7T0y)

166 Its been so damned hot here I've had to ice down my chemicals when developing film. Its insane.

Although, I will say, the results are quite nice. Tempts me to make it a regular practice.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine
----------

Hmm. Slows reaction time. Interesting.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2016 12:34 AM (9mTYi)

167 Does an Indian (racist!) headdress count as "swimwear"?

...

I'll allow it.

Posted by: self-appointed compliance pic judge at July 11, 2016 12:35 AM (1KKpn)

168
Dumbass posts it was awesome to watch cops die and then calls cops to complain when she gets the inevitable blowback. Be sure to read her "apology."

http://goo.gl/6mDODS

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 11, 2016 12:35 AM (iQIUe)

169 "What is it about that show that attracts hosts who apparently have no ethical boundaries?"

Clarckson The Great hauled off and punched a producer. He, HE, went and confessed. The producer said nothing.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 11, 2016 12:35 AM (9ym/8)

170 I know a S-Sudanese guy, a bishop actually.
What a pitiful dump --- but not God-forsaken. There are a surprising number of fine and courageous pastors there, including Catholics, Protestants, and Anglicans.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 11, 2016 12:35 AM (T/5A0)

171 In fairness BBC has proven that so long as the pounds keep rolling in, they don't give a flying shit if their hosts are the devil themselves.

Jimmy Savile proved it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 12:35 AM (q7T0y)

172 Mike Hammer -

Yep. Course this is just the b&w chemistry. Color I've never had much luck with, and gave it up ages ago as something left to the pro labs.

Rodinal, in case you were wondering.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 11, 2016 12:36 AM (v4xjc)

173
I will take a 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO.
------------

Nah. Clashy gearboxes. Money ain't everything.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2016 12:36 AM (9mTYi)

174 Night horde. Monday cometh soon....

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 11, 2016 12:36 AM (R5HRU)

175 The only thing missing from that Mars photo John Wayne in full cowboy at tie riding up over one of the ridges.

Posted by: Tuna at July 11, 2016 12:37 AM (JSovD)

176 171 yep. Unless you're slightly right-wing and dont believe in glow-bull worming

eh

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 12:37 AM (R1ejq)

177
Dumbass posts it was awesome to watch cops die and then calls cops to complain when she gets the inevitable blowback. Be sure to read her "apology."

http://goo.gl/6mDODS
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 11, 2016 12:35 AM

I hate big butt heads and I cannot lie.

Posted by: Sir Mixed Up A Lot at July 11, 2016 12:37 AM (IqV8l)

178 That's pretty cool AoP, so you built a Studebaker Spyder...

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2016 12:38 AM (AZagi)

179 Night all. Early date with the Lake and my daughter. Be well.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 11, 2016 12:38 AM (YLidQ)

180 "I'll allow it.
Posted by: self-appointed compliance pic judge "

Thank you, you're judgeship.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 11, 2016 12:38 AM (9ym/8)

181 As for AOP -

You've got the knowin' of the doin' of a great many things. Post-apoc, you'll have the lights on, no doubt.

'Who run Bartertown?'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 11, 2016 12:38 AM (v4xjc)

182 Rodinal, in case you were wondering.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine
------------

Yes, you've made favorable mention of it before. If I just get the damn Leica's shutter curtain replaced, I might be tempted to give it a go.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2016 12:38 AM (9mTYi)

183 Dumbass posts it was awesome to watch cops die and then calls cops to complain when she gets the inevitable blowback. Be sure to read her "apology."

http://goo.gl/6mDODS

Oh, the huge manatee!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 11, 2016 12:38 AM (T/cxb)

184 168
Dumbass posts it was awesome to watch cops die and then calls cops to complain when she gets the inevitable blowback. Be sure to read her "apology."

http://goo.gl/6mDODS
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 11, 2016 12:35 AM (iQIUe)

Hoisted by her own petard(on or by?)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 12:39 AM (3ZoRf)

185 Freekin IndyCar started the race with..

"DRIVERS START YOUR CORN POWERED, E-85 FUELED ENGINES!!"

At least there was only a tepid cheer from the crowd.

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 12:39 AM (R1ejq)

186 Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

Nice. And completely free of swimming!

Posted by: t-bird at July 11, 2016 12:40 AM (OLNwX)

187 Oh, the huge manatee!
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 11, 2016 12:38 AM (T/

Trigglypuff territory?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 11, 2016 12:40 AM (hscyr)

188
Jeremy Clarkson had a history of screaming, yelling at underlings and being ridiculously abusive....If you treat underlings like that, you deserve to get fired and embarassed in public.
Posted by: qdpsteve

You don't fire the talent bringing in millions, because the coffeeboy got yelled at. Simple fact of life there.

Clarkson got griefed because he was on the BBC's non-PC list. They did, after all, replace him with big Labour supporter Chris Evans, an alleged rapist. Which seems rather more serious a issue than being a meany-pants.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 11, 2016 12:41 AM (kdS6q)

189 Clarkson, May, and Hammond have a special coming out produced by Amazon, IIRC.

Posted by: gNewt at July 11, 2016 12:41 AM (Bc1aB)

190 Nah. Clashy gearboxes. Money ain't everything.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2016 12:36 AM (9mTYi)

I am not going to drive it, for God's sake. It will be crate delivered to an auction house.

That is a sad thing about a lot of these cars- that they do not get driven. One of the reasons I like Leno's garage. He actually drives them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 12:41 AM (3ZoRf)

191
What is it about that show that attracts hosts who apparently have no ethical boundaries?
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 12:24 AM (q7T0y)

Apparently it is the BBC

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2016 12:41 AM (ry34m)

192 Mike -

Leica? Fancy.....gorgeous glass, too.

Yeah, rodinal, 1:50, agitation 10 seconds every minute for about 10 minutes, most of the time. Add a gram per liter of borax, and you get super tight grain with cold chemistry. Some folks do stand developing - dilutions of 1:100 for an hour with only an inversion or two half way thru. Tried ot, and liked it, but who has that kind of time?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 11, 2016 12:42 AM (v4xjc)

193 Not to steal kbdabear's thunder, but my bloggin' friend Rob Solomon has posted at his poker blog a great Ace Of Spades-themed pic today. Here it is:

http://tinyurl.com/jzwdujg

Ace & Co., sure you can't work this into the design here somewhere??

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 12:42 AM (q7T0y)

194 Clarkson, May, and Hammond have a special coming out produced by Amazon, IIRC.
Posted by: gNewt

Yeah, its called "The Grand Tour" iirc.

And its going to be a series.

I believe they are filming now, because they keep posting pics of exotic places and things lately.

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 12:43 AM (R1ejq)

195 So apparently "antipasta" is an Eye-talian word for something that it served before the meal and not something that disappears in a bright flash of mutual annihilation when it encounters spaghetti.

I can't begin to tell you just how disappointed I was to learn that.

Evening roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Working Horde, NC Chapter at July 11, 2016 12:43 AM (30qi/)

196 Trigglypuff territory?

Says she's a + size model.

Looks more like ++ ungood to me.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 11, 2016 12:44 AM (T/cxb)

197 191
What is it about that show that attracts hosts who apparently have no ethical boundaries?
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 12:24 AM (q7T0y)

Apparently it is the BBC
Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2016 12:41 AM (ry34m)

If you are cold. dead and amoral on the inside, it becomes not as big a deal in others.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 12:44 AM (3ZoRf)

198 Making someone code in Macro Assembly Language makes the programmer visualize what the system is doing at all times.
----------------

No it doesn't.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, author of buggy code at July 11, 2016 12:45 AM (9mTYi)

199 I attend an outpatient program in NYC for addiction. The group sessions occasionally lean political, and the lefties are the most vocal. They will admit both sides are corrupt, Dems and Republicans. It has permeated their consciousness that the justice system is exploitive and makes money off of their addiction, and this hasn't changed under the Democrats.

But the possibility of personal responsibility never occurs to them. They see a video on healthy eating and complain about the high price of "organic" foods. They still want freebies. They still think in terms of government solutions to all their woes. The therapist who leads the group has said that Republicans are demonic. They are eaten up with class envy and conspiracy theories about big pharma, etc. They are not happy but they are locked into the liberal mindset. I've litlle hope their dissatisfaction can benefit us, except that maybe they'll sit out this next election.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 11, 2016 12:45 AM (gxcgC)

200 Oooo, I owe the IRS five cents!! Like I don't have that.
Wait, I really don't. Can someone here at the Horde help out a buddy? :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 12:27 AM (q7T0y)

Wait, you sayin' you got IRS issues?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbFZJmcLUT0

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2016 12:45 AM (ry34m)

201 So is that a picture of where the astronauts put the flag on Mars?

Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee at July 11, 2016 12:45 AM (lRwmz)

202 Favorite Indy car ever, was the late '60s STP turbine. Granatelli, if memory serves?

Thing absolutely smoked the field, but failed late in the race due to some $5~ish transmission part come adrift.

Then of course, the rules people outlawed it, 'cause, reasons.

It had the driver offset to one side, with the turbine engine to the other side, with a weight bias to the left, to better manage the left-only turns of the course.

Specialized as hell, but effective as hell, too.

And looked way cool in a 1/24 model kit.

Ethanol, my ass. That thing ran on pure baddasahol.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 11, 2016 12:45 AM (v5iqM)

203 "Clarkson got griefed because he was on the BBC's non-PC list. They did, after all, replace him with big Labour supporter Chris Evans, an alleged rapist. "

Clarkson was not a problem.

The BBC was just looking for a reason. And, they are idiiots

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 11, 2016 12:45 AM (9ym/8)

204 You've got the knowin' of the doin' of a great many things. Post-apoc, you'll have the lights on, no doubt.

'Who run Bartertown?'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 11, 2016 12:38 AM (v4xjc)

I don't know about the knowin', but I burned a few rods today, and darn near emptied my acetylene tank. Only 50 psi showing on the "high" gauge.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 12:45 AM (GSdpU)

205 171 In fairness BBC has proven that so long as the pounds keep rolling in, they don't give a flying shit if their hosts are the devil themselves.

Jimmy Savile proved it.

And money will continue to roll in. The UK has a TV tax.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2016 12:46 AM (nQNVp)

206 Hi. Hope you all are having an evening. I brings three things.

-- Thing 1 --

It's almost the anniversary of the death of one of Joe Biden's ancestors.

http://bit.ly/death-by-paste

-- Thing 2 --

...python living inside her walls that she has known about for 15 years...
From Weird News, down about halfway on the page

http://bit.ly/29qDhLe

-- Thing 3 --

The Final Inspection
by Sgt Joshua Helterbran
at PoliticalClownParade

http://bit.ly/29OeCRf

Posted by: mindful webworker - surfing the web without a paddle at July 11, 2016 12:46 AM (5a8XA)

207 GGE!!!!

Ok time for Outlander. See youse all laterz!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 11, 2016 12:46 AM (hscyr)

208 Evening roonz and roonettez!
Posted by: GGE
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Stuffed sheep stomachs are far more likely to generate a flash.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, author of buggy code at July 11, 2016 12:46 AM (9mTYi)

209 What is Rowan Atkinson doing?

He was fastest around the track for a long time, and would prob bring in the most viewers around the world.

More than that Simon Pegg lookin wanna-be did obviously lol.

(I'd watch that... on a pirated youtube channel so BBC didn't get squat from me)

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 12:46 AM (R1ejq)

210 Oyasumi minna, need to get some word-smithing done.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2016 12:47 AM (AZagi)

211 Trigglypuff territory?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 11, 2016 12:40 AM (hscyr)

Manatees, are kinda cute, in a way. Trigglypuff, not so much.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 12:47 AM (GSdpU)

212 I don't know about the knowin', but I burned a few rods today, and darn near emptied my acetylene tank. Only 50 psi showing on the "high" gauge.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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So, welding was stick-welding?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, author of buggy code at July 11, 2016 12:48 AM (9mTYi)

213 Laurie, so how much abuse is acceptable because Jeremy made money for BBC?

Hey, let's stop pretending and just go straight to an openly-tiered justice system. Hillary's proven we already have one, so why not? If you're rich, and you have the right political beliefs, you can do any fucking thing you please without repercussions. Scream, yell and terrorize people? Sure. Threaten their jobs no matter how long they've worked and how many dues they've paid? Sounds great. Make people unemployable? That's exactly what Clarkson was threatening to do to these people.

Laurie, have you *ever* been screamed at by a "superior" (hah!) for something that was a completely honest mistake? Have you ever been fired for no reason, other than that said "superior"'s ego demanded it? Yes, it does happen. I REFUSE to follow the "if you're a manager, it must be because you're so much more perfect than those lowly stupid ground-floor employees" bullshit.

In a just world Jeremy Clarkson would be made to do a job he *has* to do for the money while overlings with his same bad attitude scream, yell and abuse his precious untouchable ass. If that pisses people here off, and makes me just another pajama boy, so be it. I'm sick of being abused.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 12:48 AM (q7T0y)

214 Aop -

More proof that personality makes the difference and closes the sale.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 11, 2016 12:49 AM (v4xjc)

215 Ethanol, my ass. That thing ran on pure baddasahol.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim
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Though it got all of the press, it was not the only turbine car that ran at Indy. I saw it in practice, btw.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, author of buggy code at July 11, 2016 12:50 AM (9mTYi)

216 Oh, yeah... thanks for the post, Maetenloch. Nice buncha stuff. Sometimes in my haste I neglect to say that.

-- Thing Extra --

Special deal at drive-thru (pic)

http://bit.ly/29wXtXM

Posted by: mindful webworker - surfing the web without a puddle at July 11, 2016 12:50 AM (5a8XA)

217 "Oyasumi minna, need to get some word-smithing done."

I don't know what's that's all about but keep an eye on your local convenience store.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 11, 2016 12:51 AM (9ym/8)

218 Oyasumi minna

Kasumetite!

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 12:52 AM (R1ejq)

219 So tell me this Mr Budiansky. I've spoken to people who helped logistic the Soviets out of East Germany (you know, keep them from running equipment through asbestos laden barracks to salvage the plumbing and toilets and make sure they took all the explosives with them) after the wall came down. How did the Sigint and NSA not figure out that the tank units were TOWED from site to site and the entire occupation army was a demoralized hot mess that was cutting up its belts to patch equipment?

It's like . . . Did anyone care?

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2016 12:53 AM (ry34m)

220 I tot I taw a BBD...

Posted by: GGE of the Working Horde, NC Chapter at July 11, 2016 12:53 AM (30qi/)

221 So, welding was stick-welding?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, author of buggy code at July 11, 2016 12:48 AM (9mTYi)

Yes. Welding steel pipe and/or angle to a pressed-steel chassis. Could have done it with the MIG, but stick is faster, and I need the practice with it. Blew a few holes and filled them up again. I used 7018AC rods.

And didn't get any slag in my shoes. That's a good thing.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 12:53 AM (GSdpU)

222 Welding reminds me, I've got to fix my ESAB Migmaster 300i. Dear Old Dad, 88 years old, backed a tractor out of the shop and happen to brush by the machine. One of the rear wheel lugs caught the connector for the MIG gun and bent and broke part of it. He just doesn't watch what he's doing like he used to.

Now, I've got to try to find parts for it, and I'm afraid I might just buy a new welder of that class for what those new parts might cost if I can find them. I'm dreading it.

The connector is a complicated thing. It's got the wire feed tube. Then a gas tube, plus the main electrical conductor, and all that has some nice little machined brass doodads.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 11, 2016 12:54 AM (DW+jj)

223 "Kasumetite!"

Shit. They're all over us.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 11, 2016 12:54 AM (9ym/8)

224
is acceptable because Jeremy made money for BBC?
Posted by: qdpsteve

Yes, to the limits set by the organization or the law. And sometimes not even then.

That is the real world rule in movie production, tv and pretty much everywhere else that has to show a profit. You don't fire the money. And any coffee carrier that thinks otherwise is in for a rude awaking and short career.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 11, 2016 12:55 AM (kdS6q)

225 In a just world Jeremy Clarkson would be made to do a job he *has* to do for the money while overlings with his same bad attitude scream, yell and abuse his precious untouchable ass. If that pisses people here off, and makes me just another pajama boy, so be it. I'm sick of being abused.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 12:48 AM (q7T0y)

Get a grip, Steve. So Clarkson was a prima donna? Not that that has ever happened before in media or entertainment, eh?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 12:57 AM (GSdpU)

226 Reading the book thread, once again I am assailed by the TWA-800 conspiracy.

No, the USN did not shoot a missile into TWA-800, and I have a very good reason why that did not happen. A very simple reason, but one that has stood the test of time. Ready?

It did not happen because sailors talk, and if the story is good...or if there is alcohol...or if there is a chance someone will get laid...the story gets better and better every time it is told. And, so far, none of the sailors on either the P3 aircraft or the destroyer have come forward and said "Yeah, it happened just like that, I saw the whole thing!"

And one of them would have.

Posted by: GGE of the Working Horde, NC Chapter at July 11, 2016 12:58 AM (30qi/)

227 Again, fun. Better get to bed pendejos.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 11, 2016 12:58 AM (9ym/8)

228 speaking of fine Italian machinery, did y'all know that they made Garands for various countries after WW2?

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 12:58 AM (7XWyA)

229 A few years ago, hell, over 10 the way time is flying, I managed to acquire an old Westinghouse shipyard welder. It's a 3-phase AC motor turning a DC generator. I fixed it up, mainly the electrical input and it runs like a charm. The motor is the equivalent of 15HP, though not HP rated -- the whole thing is one machine, and rated as a welder.

It makes dead constant DC current. I mean dead constant. It's not a jumpy rectified waveform, and damn, that thing will run some of the hardest to run rods there is.

The xx18 (I've got some 10018s I picked up -- 100Kpsi tensile). And some 9010 rods. Those things would make you cuss, but I found that old Westinghouse will run them as smooth as butter.

There's no hum at all, and the funny thing until you get used to it, it won't seem like the current is a high as it is. That's that smooth DC. You'll burn a hole in something before you know it until you get used to it.

That thing will put out 300A at 100% duty cycle and go up to 500A at a still high duty cycle.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 11, 2016 12:59 AM (DW+jj)

230 Paul Ryan Plummets to 43% in New Primary Poll...

Challenger Holds Press Conference At Ryan Estate: 'Tear Down Your Wall' If You Won't Build One For USA...

HAHAHahahahaahHAHAHAHhahaha...

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 01:00 AM (R1ejq)

231 152 135: Top Gear is Clarkson, May, and Hammond. They have to be laughing there asses off about this.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2016 12:31 AM (nQNVp)

Yes and no.

"Top Gear" is a world famous name brand with billions of dollars of marketing behind it found on television channels around the globe. It also is produced by the BBC and has the power of the British government behind it, so getting car companies to pony up cars is pretty easy. Top Gear uses a long time theme song, "Jessica", and has its tame racing driver "The Stig". "Grand Tour" has none of these. They will be going from being on a cable channel where most people know where to find them to a streaming service that a lot of people still don't understand.

What Grand Tour has is 3 hosts that have worked together for years and a comfort level that viewers will enjoy. It has behind it one of the largest online companies in the world, so they will not have any governmental pressure on them to toe the government's line. Will they have to toe Amazon's? That remains to be seen.

What remains to be seen is where will the show be based? Will the show be USA specific or European? Will they continue to test cars, or will they just do the "challenges"?

It will be interesting to see how it works.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 11, 2016 01:01 AM (1JnAL)

232 So IOW, underlings just should accept limitless abuse.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:02 AM (q7T0y)

233 And one of them would have.
Posted by: GGE
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Wait..., does this mean you don't believe that the Warren Commission and all of the hundreds of associated investigators were in on a plot to conceal JFK's true murderer?!

But seriously, the reconstruction of the aircraft was very carefully conducted and documented. Fuel tank explosion.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, author of buggy code at July 11, 2016 01:03 AM (mxCgt)

234 Though it got all of the press, it was not the only turbine car that ran at Indy. I saw it in practice, btw.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, author of buggy code at July 11, 2016 12:50 AM (9mTYi)

That would've been awesome to have seen. Do you have any details on the non STP turbine cars that ran back then?

I did get to enjoy an All Access day at the 1995 Firecracker 400, with the LCI Lola car driven by Andre Ribero.

He was leading deep into the race, when the pit crew inadvertently pulled the fuel can too early. The resultant methanol fire burned up the car's left side wiring before he got out of pit row.... he basically limped around the infield for one more lap, and that was his race for the day.

Pit wall showed straightway speeds of 243 mph. Mr. Ribero related after the race, that the Michigan track is the only one where they use the smallest wing-sets, for better top speed, and never lift the left foot from the throttle in the curves.

Watching those cars go by the wall that close, at those speeds, was truly an awe inspiring experience, in every correct sense of the word.

Might only see it once in my life, but I'm glad I *did* get to see it.

You watch it on TV, and think; "yeah, I could do that". Then you see it up close, and realize...."nah, I couldn't do that, not unless I'd started 40 years ago in go-karts, etc."

Oh, and the actual garage spaces behind pit row.

I think even AoP would envy some of those setups.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 11, 2016 01:03 AM (v5iqM)

235 Just 24 socks this week? Crap. I'll have to give up huffing spray paint.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 11, 2016 01:03 AM (sl+zA)

236 SIGINT? Isn't that what the terminal driver sends to the foreground process when you hit Ctrl-C?

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 11, 2016 01:04 AM (gxcgC)

237 he connector is a complicated thing. It's got the wire feed tube. Then a gas tube, plus the main electrical conductor, and all that has some nice little machined brass doodads.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 11, 2016 12:54 AM (DW+jj)

ESAB is still in business. They make a good machine. I bid on one in a government surplus auction, but didn't get it. My current MIG welder is one that I bought from Daytona MIG in about 1985. It's a made-in-Italy unit. Only problem ever with it is the range switch burned out. I puzzled out the truth table for the range switch, and replaced it with 3 heavy-duty toggle switches. Two of them, in their 4 possible up/down permutations, give me the four heat ranges. The third toggle switch is simply on/off.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 01:04 AM (GSdpU)

238 publius - Heh. So you have 3 phase service on hand? Or do you use a converter of some type?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, author of buggy code at July 11, 2016 01:06 AM (mxCgt)

239
He punched the guy, he didnt just yell at him He called him an Irish cunt and punched the guy. So, if BBC wanted to fire him, that's their right.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 11, 2016 01:06 AM (iQIUe)

240 Hey all, doing good tonight?

We had an old fashioned Ice Cream Social today for our Historical Society. Raised over $1100 which will be matched!

Tired as heck, but a good day.

Posted by: Farmer at July 11, 2016 01:07 AM (o/90i)

241 Paul Ryan Plummets to 43% in New Primary Poll...

McTurtle to the rescue.

Posted by: gNewt at July 11, 2016 01:07 AM (Bc1aB)

242 235 Just 24 socks this week? Crap. I'll have to give up huffing spray paint.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 11, 2016 01:03 AM (sl+zA)

And tell the milkman: NO MORE CHEESE!

Posted by: McCrosky at July 11, 2016 01:07 AM (3ZoRf)

243
They will be going from being on a cable channel where most people know where to find them to a streaming service that a lot of people still don't understand.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper

BBC America is "available" to approximately 78 million television households. Doubt most of those could "find it" in the listings. Amazon Prime, where Jezza and the Boys ended up, is available in half of US households.

Same as makes no difference.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 11, 2016 01:08 AM (kdS6q)

244
Generation Mewling Quims

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 11, 2016 01:08 AM (fOgSR)

245 That would've been awesome to have seen. Do you have any details on the non STP turbine cars that ran back then?
-----

Carroll Shelby, I think.... stand by one...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, author of buggy code at July 11, 2016 01:08 AM (mxCgt)

246 That last pic looks like Wyoming on a good day.

Posted by: TOF at July 11, 2016 01:08 AM (pNGW1)

247 And if he was a lib, BBC would have said "Oh, its low blood sugar, its all good."

Personally, he did wrong, and I'll give THAT a pass. If he does anything like it again, I'll stop watching anything hes in.

See if he's learned his lesson or not, thats to say.

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 01:08 AM (R1ejq)

248 Bruce, thank you. Even I didn't know Clarkson was hitting people.

If a supervisor ever *hits* me? I'm going to file charges. I don't give a fucking shit how much money that person has made or how important they are or how famous they are. But of course that makes me an idiot, I should just know my place: I'm an inferior piece of shit who can't make money like those super superior alpha males can. I'm just pathetic.

And I've had abusive bosses so I admit it's a personal, emotional topic for me. I'd really like to know if AOP or Laurie have ever had abusive bosses, I'm honestly wondering.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:10 AM (q7T0y)

249 165 When I hear that some big-time conservative is being charged with sexual harassment or some other crime, am I skeptical? Sure, libs will say anything to tear down successful conservatives.

Having said that, if and when they turn out to be giant screaming assholes, I don't have so much of a problem showing them the door.

I hate both false accusations and the 'excuse' that if someone has shared beliefs and a billion dollars, that makes them exempt from their mistakes.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 12:34 AM (q7T0y)

I find it funny that they have a couple from back in the 60's and 70's. AYFKM, back then there was no such thing as sexual harassment. Shit, back then my dad probably fucked half the women that worked for him when he and my mom divorced, and he probably fucked the other half before they got divorced.

Totally different world being judged by 2016 mores.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 11, 2016 01:10 AM (1JnAL)

250 That last pic looks like Wyoming on a good day.

When 4 billion years you reach, look as good you will not.

Posted by: tetchy landscape at July 11, 2016 01:10 AM (1KKpn)

251
He's half a lib. He's a Remainiac.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 11, 2016 01:11 AM (iQIUe)

252 "(I've got some 10018s I picked up -- 100Kpsi tensile)."

Should come in handy for welding sub hull sections together.

Who knows? Your old Westinghouse may have done just that.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 11, 2016 01:11 AM (noWW6)

253 Carroll Shelby, I think.... stand by one...
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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Yeah, Shelby, although I keep thinking that there was another.

The weird thing about them was that they sounded like a Hoover going by..., a whistling 'whoosh'. Pretty quiet, really.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, author of buggy code at July 11, 2016 01:12 AM (mxCgt)

254 Jarvis, I hate the excuses that get made for powerful wealthy people, no matter their political persuasions.

I have, or had, enormous respect for Bill Cosby. Now there's all these charges against him. Is it possible he's being set up? Of course. But if the charges are true, he deserves his comeuppance. Maybe even jail time if it can be proven that the worst happened at least once. Or at least, he deserves the social consequences.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:12 AM (q7T0y)

255
He punched the guy, he didnt just yell at him He called him an Irish cunt and punched the guy. So, if BBC wanted to fire him, that's their right.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!

Right? *shrugs*

Smart? Nope. The disastrous fall in viewship this season, and the associated plunge in syndication and secondary market revenue says not.

But, remember the BBC is a government organization, not a business. So the "Money Rules" rule does not apply to those who are on the public dole.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 11, 2016 01:13 AM (kdS6q)

256 "That last pic looks like Wyoming on a good day."

During one of the quite cold winters in New York City back about a decade ago, someone pointed out that the temperature in midtown Manhattan was lower on a particular day than that being reported on Mars.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 11, 2016 01:14 AM (noWW6)

257
45 United States Demands an Immediate End to Fighting in South Sudan

Build the #HashtagWall

Make South Sudan pay for it

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 11, 2016 01:15 AM (fOgSR)

258 Ashley, I think the sexual harassment rules and laws have gone way overboard. Having said that, all the bullshit that went on forever, wasn't right either.

Of course I accept there's only so much that can be done in any given circumstance. I'm not particularly exercised if Jeremy Clarkson never sees a jail cell, but I want him to experience *consequences* the same as any other person would. To claim that anyone should be exempt from consequences is to argue for a two-tiered justice system, and we've already seen how well that's going to go over thanks to Hillary.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:15 AM (q7T0y)

259 248
Bruce, thank you. Even I didn't know Clarkson was hitting people.

If a supervisor ever *hits* me? I'm going to file charges. I don't
give a fucking shit how much money that person has made or how important
they are or how famous they are. But of course that makes me an idiot, I
should just know my place: I'm an inferior piece of shit who can't make
money like those super superior alpha males can. I'm just pathetic.

And I've had abusive bosses so I admit it's a personal, emotional
topic for me. I'd really like to know if AOP or Laurie have ever had
abusive bosses, I'm honestly wondering.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:10 AM (q7T0y)

I was once a VP at a Silicon Valley startup (about 50 people). I'd originally been hired as Controller, made CFO, and often ran the production line because the owner would appoint someone to run it and later abruptly fire them.

We'd have these management meetings where the owner would just explode at me -- screaming at the top of his lungs with the vein on his forehead throbbing -- about not making sales quotas. It puzzled me at first, because I was responsible for a whole lot but it was inconceivable that I'd be making sales....until I realized. If he'd had yelled directly at the sales guy, the sales guy would have been crushed.....so he yelled criticism of the sales guy at me, knowing I'd blow it off, so that the sales dude would sweat.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 01:16 AM (EzgxV)

260
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:10 AM (q7T0y)
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If he had filed charges he wd have gotten a slap on the wrist. Plus, their civil/tort system is different so I doubt he could sue for cash. So, how does one right the wrong? Is an apology enough? I dont think so. I would have suspended Clarkson for episodes but I dont think they could have done even that.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 11, 2016 01:17 AM (iQIUe)

261 And I've had abusive bosses so I admit it's a personal, emotional topic for me. I'd really like to know if AOP or Laurie have ever had abusive bosses, I'm honestly wondering.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:10 AM (q7T0y)

IIRC, Clarkson punched a producer. His boss.

Did it ever occur to you that the "underlings" were being paid to endure the verbal abuse?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 01:18 AM (GSdpU)

262 ....'Hammer. Thanks. Yep, Shelby makes sense, and I'll look it up later on.

For now though, I'm just gonna call it a nite.

Hasta la nite nite, Horde!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 11, 2016 01:19 AM (v5iqM)

263 The weird thing about them was that they sounded like a Hoover going by..., a whistling 'whoosh'. Pretty quiet, really.
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so is an M-1 Abrams... even their tracks are quieter than say M48/60s

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 01:19 AM (7XWyA)

264 >>>The same program written in a higher language (Pascal in this example) was over 500 bytes.

I'm no compiler expert, but haven't compilers gotten really good at optimizing? Loop unrolling, dead code elimination, computing common subexpressions once, etc.?

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 11, 2016 01:20 AM (gxcgC)

265 Laurie, there's the point I wanted to make.

Please, please, please tell me: when is it a *good idea* to scream at the coffee guy? In what magic incredible ways does screaming at underlings magically bring more money in the door, increase productivity, increase respect, and make people oh so glad to be under their employ?

Abusing underlings isn't just bad ethics and bad morality, it's bad business too. Now if you don't give a shit and you just want to be the Second Coming of Joe Stalin, because you believe that making money and having money makes you better than everyone else, go for it!

OMG, nothing's better than having an entire army of scared shitless, cowed, spineless underlings to do every little thing you tell them to and twitch every little way you scream at them to twitch. It also must be so nice to be so superior, that you can make people unemployable and impoverished, just because they did some tiny tiny thing to displease your precious, perfect self that day. Yup you guys are right, fuck being a decent person. Money excuses anything. Murder, rape, child molestation. Just ask Jimmy Savile, I'm sure he's snorting coke off a hooker in Heaven right now chortling about all those inferior, stupid kids he fucked and how great it was that he could do any fucking thing he wanted, so long as the magic money kept rolling in. Money trumps everything: morality, ethics, human decency. Keep the money rolling in and keep the inferior, stupid coffee boys and secretaries and other not-rich morons enslaved.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:21 AM (q7T0y)

266 Jim - Worth a look
http://www.autopuzzles.com/Indy1967.htm

Posted by: Mike Hammer, author of buggy code at July 11, 2016 01:22 AM (mxCgt)

267
claim that anyone should be exempt from consequence
Posted by: qdpsteve

You're confusing a belief in what life "should" be, with an acknowledgment of what reality is.

Life tends to do unpleasant things to those who don't understand the difference.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 11, 2016 01:22 AM (kdS6q)

268 BLM. I thought was a BM plus a tinkle a the same time.

Posted by: The New Black Panties at July 11, 2016 01:23 AM (/BTP8)

269 Did it ever occur to you that the "underlings" were being paid to endure the verbal abuse?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 01:18 AM (GSdpU)

It is important for bosses to realize there is a risk of catching a desk chair across to face too.

And it is important to remember that you need to be nice to people on the way up, you may be dependent on their forebearance on your way back down.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2016 01:24 AM (ry34m)

270
BBC America is "available" to approximately 78 million television households. Doubt most of those could "find it" in the listings. Amazon Prime, where Jezza and the Boys ended up, is available in half of US households.

Same as makes no difference.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 11, 2016 01:08 AM (kdS6q)

Big difference. BBC-A has 78M subscribers in the US. AmazonPrime has 54M worldwide, and 40M in the US. Top Gear was an international television hit with 350M viewers world wide. 530K viewers watched the old hosts on BBC America.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 11, 2016 01:24 AM (1JnAL)

271 264
>>>The same program written in a higher language (Pascal in this example) was over 500 bytes.

I'm no compiler expert, but haven't compilers gotten really good at
optimizing? Loop unrolling, dead code elimination, computing common
subexpressions once, etc.?

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 11, 2016 01:20 AM (gxcgC)

500 bytes is nothing. It's one quarter page of text. That said, it isn't unusual to be able to print "Hello, world!" on a terminal in about 50 bytes in Assembler, and for a high-level language in its default compile mode to come up with something around 12,000 bytes.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 01:24 AM (EzgxV)

272 >> publius - Heh. So you have 3 phase service on hand? Or do you use a >> converter of some type?

I got 3-phase back in the late '90s. A neighbor of mine, about two miles down the road had a booming machine shop business. He paid to have 3-phase run out here. They did it in two phases (pun intented). They pulled one extra phase, then gave a V transformer set-up for 'em (note two phases add up to the third -- it's not optimum but it can be done -- there are all sorts of tricks. It just tends to get imbalanced easy, as you don't have all three, just two).

Then a couple years later, he paid to run the 3rd phase, and got a proper 480Y/277V service.

Me, I wanted a high-leg delta, so I'd have real 240V, but Duke here would not do that anymore. No more high-legs (you could get special dispensation, but they wouldn't do it for me). So I got 208Y/120. They just had to pull the other two phases down a couple of polls where it tee'd off the line to come down my road.

My cost was about $700 to run it. That's what I paid Duke.

I put in a booster transformer setup to get real 240V three-wire. It was an oddball, what I call a 3-unit "autodelta". You won't see that in the books, because it makes an odd phase shift, but it doesn't matter for my purposes. It's just odd and if you were paralleling shit, it would be problematic and not standard, so they don't do it.

Anyway, you will get 240V nominal from 208Y/120V. It's actually a Y, 240Y/139V, 139V phase to neutral, and that would be useable, but nothing runs on it, so I call it 3-wire.

If you had a very long drop cord, you might use it for some 120V shit.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 11, 2016 01:24 AM (DW+jj)

273 "Hey AOP: you're the most fucking useless piece of shit in the universe, and the next time you fuck up, I'm coming to your house to rape your kids and wife, shoot your mother in the head, and burn your house down."

Now AOP, how much money would it take for me to throw in your face, to make it OKAY that I screamed all that at you, inside of my locked office, in a tone of voice that everyone else could overhear, while waving a baseball bat in your face?

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:25 AM (q7T0y)

274 "IIRC, Clarkson punched a producer. His boss. "

Producers in TV are a lil different. The "Show Runner" is the boss. (Think Moffett for Dr Who)

From what I understand he was more like a Production Assistant, and was responsible for having the guys a hot meal after a long shoot.

I've been on sets, and if I had been offered cold-cuts, I might have wanted to punch someone too! lol (I'd be in the wrong of course)

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 01:25 AM (R1ejq)

275
IIRC, Clarkson punched a producer. His boss.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

A segment producer of some sort, who is not the talent's "boss" in any sense of the term. A very different thing for the producer above the titles in a motion picture.

If your job is getting Clarkson's din-din, you are not the boss of him.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 11, 2016 01:25 AM (kdS6q)

276 It did not happen because sailors talk, and if the story is good...or if there is alcohol...or if there is a chance someone will get laid...the story gets better and better every time it is told. And, so far, none of the sailors on either the P3 aircraft or the destroyer have come forward and said "Yeah, it happened just like that, I saw the whole thing!"

I think about it from that angle as well, but then "If" it was you that 'pushed the button', would you admit to murdering 230 people?

People have nightmares over 2 or 3 innocents in a car at the wrong place & the wrong time.

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 11, 2016 01:26 AM (AoK0a)

277 my one run in with a physically violent "boss":

an E-5 in my first unit, but not in my chain of command.

he picked me up off the floor by my neck and started to choke me out, while everyone just watched.

the drill after AT we were the same rank. the next AT he was a PV2, and when he started some shit with me that year, i told him to go fuck himself or he'd be a PV1 in a month.

i transferred right after that, so i have no idea what happened to him.

of course, the only reason he was alive to get demoted was because i had obeyed orders to not have a knife on me before we got to the field... i was losing my vision before someone finally stepped in.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 01:26 AM (7XWyA)

278 Chi? Still here? I thought I saw a couple of days ago that your charity case had been AWOL for a couple of days? Is that right, and if so, has your luck continued?

Tilikum? Still here? Did you ever lose that personal troll you picked up after joking with me yesternight? It reminded me of some previous case where some regular - I forget who - got a personal troll follower.

Posted by: mindful webworker - found and lost at July 11, 2016 01:26 AM (5a8XA)

279 Bruce, I agree that justice isn't always there for people. That's a crying, screaming shame.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:27 AM (q7T0y)

280 I'm no compiler expert, but haven't compilers gotten really good at optimizing? Loop unrolling, dead code elimination, computing common subexpressions once, etc.?
Posted by: Yuimetal
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Yes, yes they have. It's kind of disgusting to us old machine/assembly guys.

Still... when eking out the last last bit of speed or program space is critical, I think the brain will still do a better job. The reason being is that compilers/assemblers don't understand the task, they can only optimize what is handed to them.

I have, btw, spent days looking for an extra bit of storage space.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, author of buggy code at July 11, 2016 01:28 AM (mxCgt)

281 ...nothing's better than having an entire army of scared shitless, cowed, spineless underlings to do every little thing you tell them to and twitch every little way you scream at them to twitch.

Now you're talking my language!

Posted by: Hillary the Queen at July 11, 2016 01:28 AM (5a8XA)

282 Kindltot, thank you.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:28 AM (q7T0y)

283 Big difference. BBC-A has 78M subscribers in the US. AmazonPrime has 54M worldwide, and 40M in the US. Top Gear was an international television hit with 350M viewers world wide. 530K viewers watched the old hosts on BBC America.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 11, 2016 01:24 AM (1JnAL)

Which means I won't be able to watch it.

Posted by: gNewt at July 11, 2016 01:28 AM (Bc1aB)

284

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:21 AM (q7T0y)

I've also seen the CEO of a company go into the stockroom on the last day of a quarter and announce, "anyone who signs for *anything* today IS FIRED." It seems a bit assholish....but was perfectly justified under the circumstances and worked as intended.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 01:28 AM (EzgxV)

285 Hillary is a classic example of a hyperabusive boss who's untouchable. Again, in a just world? She'd be making big rocks into little ones at Leavenworth for the next 20 years.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:29 AM (q7T0y)

286 You're confusing a belief in what life "should" be, with an acknowledgment of what reality is.

Life tends to do unpleasant things to those who don't understand the difference.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 11, 2016 01:22 AM (kdS6q)
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The reality is that he got fcken fired bc it was and is unacceptable behavior. Life tend to do unpleasant things to those that dont understand that the next guy you cold cock may pull out a piece and blow you away.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 11, 2016 01:29 AM (iQIUe)

287
Big difference. BBC-A has 78M subscribers in the US.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper

You can say the same thing about MSNBC's subscribers number, or Azteca TV's or the Trout Fishing channel's. You're just another 3 digit listing on the cable box that came with the extended package.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 11, 2016 01:30 AM (kdS6q)

288 Agree with your above Steve partly..

JC, in a moment of hunger and worn out, had a spur of the moment reaction, and payed for it.

Cosby, like you said, if true, RAPED WOMEN..

If JC hit a woman, then I'd be total off him.

Yeah, hypocrisy, but mine isnt as bad as the BBC's which I am madder at than Jezza.

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 01:30 AM (R1ejq)

289 If your job is getting Clarkson's din-din, you are not the boss of him.
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yeah, but screwing with the guy that gets your food is really stupid: no telling what would be done to it prior to you ingesting it...

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 01:30 AM (7XWyA)

290 Which means I won't be able to watch it.
Posted by: gNewt at July 11, 2016 01:28 AM (Bc1aB)
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If you have the internet, you can download and watch one of the thousands of copes that get posted on line within minutes of airing.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 11, 2016 01:31 AM (iQIUe)

291 273
"Hey AOP: you're the most fucking useless piece of shit in the universe,
and the next time you fuck up, I'm coming to your house to rape your
kids and wife, shoot your mother in the head, and burn your house down."

Now AOP, how much money would it take for me to throw in your face,
to make it OKAY that I screamed all that at you, inside of my locked
office, in a tone of voice that everyone else could overhear, while
waving a baseball bat in your face?

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:25 AM (q7T0y)

The five founders of the robot company I worked at left a previous company when the founder and primary owner fired a pistol through the ceiling during a company meeting.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 01:31 AM (EzgxV)

292 And here's where things get complicated...

I understand that EVERYONE HAS A BAD DAY. Yes, even Jeremy Clarkson.

How long was he with the show? Let's assume 20 years. If there was, let's say, a grand total of THREE bad episodes with him? Fine, take people he's abused out of the picture, put 'em on the staffs of other shows, don't punish them in any way, just get them out of the line of fire.

But from what I've read, Clarkson was getting worse and worse every year with underlings. Screaming, yelling, tantrums, threats, hitting.

Again, you find that kind of work environment wonderful and enriching? Great, go for it. I will not accept it ever again, for my part.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:31 AM (q7T0y)

293
The reality is that he got fcken fired
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!

And promptly got a vastly better paying gig, because he brings in the $$$.

So, what is the lesson learned here?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 11, 2016 01:32 AM (kdS6q)

294 cthulhu, IMHO you would be justified in calling the police then.

I'll never understand why it's so romantic to have a crazy boss. I just never will.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:32 AM (q7T0y)

295 If you take people of color out of the calculation the USA has a lower homicide rate than Luxembourg.

Posted by: torabora at July 11, 2016 01:32 AM (vOkO9)

296 258 Ashley, I think the sexual harassment rules and laws have gone way overboard. Having said that, all the bullshit that went on forever, wasn't right either.

Of course I accept there's only so much that can be done in any given circumstance. I'm not particularly exercised if Jeremy Clarkson never sees a jail cell, but I want him to experience *consequences* the same as any other person would. To claim that anyone should be exempt from consequences is to argue for a two-tiered justice system, and we've already seen how well that's going to go over thanks to Hillary.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:15 AM (q7T0y)

Yelling and screaming are fine, I had a boss that pretty much would chew our asses out when there was a fuck up to warrant it. He'd call us into his office and make you sit down, and then start straightening all the stuff on his desk as his voice went from calm to full throat scream. Like cthulu's boss, he never took it out on the sales force, just the engineering and programming people, of which I was supervising both.

One was very memorable though. It was a Sunday night during the summer, my then girlfriend came by my apartment wearing a bikini she had worn to the pool and was a wee bit frisky when the boss called to chew my ass out. I did not care, she was taking care of my "needs" the whole time I was on the phone getting my ass chewed out. I had no freaking idea what he said after I hung up, and didn't care.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 11, 2016 01:32 AM (1JnAL)

297 * ripping off filthy Mao-pants-suited sock *

Posted by: mindful webworker - by chance at July 11, 2016 01:33 AM (5a8XA)

298 redc1c4, also an excellent point.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:33 AM (q7T0y)

299 Super.

Posted by: gNewt at July 11, 2016 01:33 AM (Bc1aB)

300 256
During one of the quite cold winters in New York City back about a decade ago, someone pointed out that the temperature in midtown Manhattan was lower on a particular day than that being reported on Mars.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 11, 2016 01:14 AM (noWW6)

Of course, we have oxygen in our atmosphere, which is an advantage.

Posted by: rickl at July 11, 2016 01:33 AM (sdi6R)

301 but was perfectly justified under the circumstances and worked as intended.
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what was that all about?

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 01:33 AM (7XWyA)

302
There was food to eat but he wanted steak and the kitchen had closed. Instead all they had was soup and cold cuts. I still say he could have ordered pizza or chinese.

The victim thought he had lost his job. Therefore, I doubt if he had rank over Clarkson.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 11, 2016 01:34 AM (iQIUe)

303 I've got some E9018s as well. I love getting oddball "special" shit. I got those E10018, hell they may be E11018s. Let me look, they're right in the house... Hell, I can't find 'em. What did I do with them? I found some fancy hardfacing rods and my good stainless (308L-16), but not the high tensile rods.

Anyway, I got them to use to weld the header drive shaft on a combine years ago. It broke -- and I wanted to use some high tensile crap for it. It would hold for about a year (not continuous use). It broke twice and I welded it. Then that machine shop buddy said he had some high strength shaft material and he would make use a new one. It lasted about a year.

It wasn't strong enough. I didn't have the heart to tell him. I got a "new", used one from a combine junkyard guy -- strips old combines for parts.

That shaft had to be some strong material -- it took a high jerk load, I think, with the pitman sickle drive.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 11, 2016 01:35 AM (DW+jj)

304 And promptly got a vastly better paying gig, because he brings in the $$$.

So, what is the lesson learned here?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 11, 2016 01:32 AM (kdS6q)

One of the black arts of management - true management, not following some script from a training course - is knowing when money earned is not worth the pain and hassle.
That is when you write a really good letter of introduction and commendation and let the problem child go be a problem for someone else.

Hopefully the competitor.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2016 01:35 AM (ry34m)

305 Ashley, that helps too.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:36 AM (q7T0y)

306 That said, it isn't unusual to be able to print "Hello, world!" on a terminal in about 50 bytes in Assembler, and for a high-level language in its default compile mode to come up with something around 12,000 bytes.
Posted by: cthulhu
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The first Borland C compiler (486) that I owned. I immediately fired up a "Hello world!"

It produced a 50K byte executable... 50K bytes!

Of course there were some useless libraries in there, but still...., I was appalled.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, author of buggy code at July 11, 2016 01:36 AM (mxCgt)

307 Jim - Worth a look
http://www.autopuzzles.com/Indy1967.htm

Posted by: Mike Hammer, author of buggy code at July 11, 2016 01:22 AM (mxCgt)

From the link: "A turbine produces torque very quickly in its power band, actually achieving peak torque with its output shaft stalled." Really? I don't think so, unless there's a torque converter in there someplace. Piston-type steam engines, and possibly electric motors can produce peak torque at stall, but turbines are way on the other end of the curve.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 01:36 AM (GSdpU)

308 i had a CO who was a world class asshole and all around jerk of a boss.

with a little help from him, and a carefully dropped hint here and there, he resigned his commission.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 01:37 AM (7XWyA)

309 Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 11, 2016 01:32 AM (1JnAL)

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Clarkson also made ethnic slurs which in this day and age you can not do. Plus, he punched him in the face. He must have hit him more than once since the physical altercation lasted 30 seconds and the guy did not resist.

http://goo.gl/3B9zaq

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 11, 2016 01:38 AM (iQIUe)

310 Of course, we have oxygen in our atmosphere, which is an advantage.
Posted by: rickl at July 11, 2016 01:33 AM (sdi6R)

And they say the greenhouse effect is bad.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2016 01:38 AM (ry34m)

311 294
cthulhu, IMHO you would be justified in calling the police then.

I'll never understand why it's so romantic to have a crazy boss. I just never will.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:32 AM (q7T0y)

Silicon Valley got the way it did because of people with incredible amounts of talent -- and people who learned how to manage incredibly talented crazy bosses.

I was at the fiberoptics place for nearly eight years -- during which, I ran the production floor seven separate times. Count it up. The owner would hire somebody, I'd explain the job to 'em, I'd hand it over, they'd screw-up, the owner would fire them, and I'd run the production floor (despite being an accountant) -- and this cycle played-out an average of once a year. For nearly eight years. Note that I wasn't the guy getting fired.

I was merely the guy getting screamed-at for the shortcomings of the sales dude.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 01:39 AM (EzgxV)

312 I had no freaking idea what he said after I hung up, and didn't care.

Sounds good.

If you arranged to have her come by AND screwed up so the boss would chew you out on a regular basis, then we'd worry about ...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 11, 2016 01:39 AM (AoK0a)

313 278 Chi? Still here? I thought I saw a couple of days ago that your charity case had been AWOL for a couple of days? Is that right, and if so, has your luck continued?

Tilikum? Still here? Did you ever lose that personal troll you picked up after joking with me yesternight? It reminded me of some previous case where some regular - I forget who - got a personal troll follower.

Posted by: mindful webworker
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Still here kinda - it has been in the 90s for weeks here, so ive been trying to do stupid chores late at night. Tonight is tuning hp the weedeater and swapping washing machines out. Hopefully, i dont have to replace that trap...

Surprised you remembered. But yeah, he's apparently "on vacation" for 10 to 14 months.
I've been cleaning out that room, and counting my blessings. The $ hit sucks, but the stress relief is nice.
Thanks for asking.

FWIW, I don't think the Whale's troll was an outsider...

Posted by: The Guys at July 11, 2016 01:40 AM (WDs/x)

314 Now AOP, how much money would it take for me to throw in your face, to make it OKAY that I screamed all that at you, inside of my locked office, in a tone of voice that everyone else could overhear, while waving a baseball bat in your face?

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:25 AM (q7T0y)

Pay me $65 per hour, and that I understand you aren't the guy that hires and fires me, just a co-worker that earns more than me, and I'm good with it. It's show business, dude. You act like a dick, and I act like I'm afraid of you.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 01:41 AM (GSdpU)

315 Ashley, when there's a fuck-up that actually costs a company money...

I'm *still* not okay with abusiveness. What's funny is, I believe bosses can be creative. You can let people know, without ever raising your voice or using a four-letter word, that certain actions were completely unacceptable and will never be tolerated. You can scare the shit out of people if you absolutely have to (and I believe the *only* time to do it is if you absolutely have to), yet do it in a nonthreatening tone of voice.

Remember that group of interns who got fired for 'petitioning' the dress code? I'd bet money, when they were fired, not a single one of the supervisors even raised his voice. Most likely they simply said "you people apparently don't respect our corporate culture here, so we have to fire you. Please leave."

Sure, you can scream and yell. If you own the company or are best buddies with the boss, you can probably get away with everything up to and including embezzlement, and never get fired, while screaming at your employees that blinking out of turn will earn them a shallow grave in the desert. But it reflects on the boss, not the employee. And if your ego, your need for control, is so great that abusing the coffee boy is what it takes to enforce it? Something's severely wrong, and not just with the coffee boy, no matter how much you try to justify it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:41 AM (q7T0y)

316
You can say the same thing about MSNBC's subscribers number, or Azteca TV's or the Trout Fishing channel's. You're just another 3 digit listing on the cable box that came with the extended package.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 11, 2016 01:30 AM (kdS6q)

People tune into 6-8 channels. They may flip around a bit, but 90% of their viewing is on those channels.

My wife? Doesn't care about streaming shows, doesn't want to learn how to stream shows, and 5 years after we got it, still has trouble operating the TIVO. She just wants to turn on the TV and find her shows even though she could stream all of those shows on Hulu or Netfix.

Also, those Amazon Prime members are usually more interested in the shipping rather than the streaming vids.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 11, 2016 01:42 AM (1JnAL)

317 yeah, but screwing with the guy that gets your food is really stupid: no telling what would be done to it prior to you ingesting it...
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 01:30 AM (7XWyA)

You may get the "Yelper's Special"

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 11, 2016 01:44 AM (1JnAL)

318 An induction motor's peak torque -- well it varies with design, but roughly it will occur at around 80% of synchronous speed. There are all sorts of interesting relationships, but you can vary locked-rotor torque, but with tradeoffs.

Locked rotor will be over 100% of rate torque, save for very some special types which may be very low.

Now, if you look at power, you'll see peak power occurs somewhere down in the "bogged down" range as well. This is well in "soon burn up" territory, and is well higher than rated power.

You know some of those ridiculous air compressor rating that would say "5HP" with a 115V plug on them? They were using this peak power at acceleration to get that.

If you'd look at the NEMA nameplate, which is a standard thing, you'd see "Spec" (special) in the HP field. This was how they got away with it. NEMA wouldn't allow such a cock-eyed definition of motor power, so they'd put special in it, and wouldn't have to give a real number.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 11, 2016 01:44 AM (DW+jj)

319 My wife? Doesn't care about streaming shows, doesn't want to learn how to stream shows, and 5 years after we got it, still has trouble operating the TIVO. She just wants to turn on the TV and find her shows even though she could stream all of those shows on Hulu or Netfix.

Also, those Amazon Prime members are usually more interested in the shipping rather than the streaming vids.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 11, 2016 01:42 AM (1JnAL

That's why I think they should have gone to Netflix. You know people are on that service to watch that shit and not get free shipping. And they already had all of Top Gear.

Posted by: buzzion at July 11, 2016 01:45 AM (bMG0w)

320 301
but was perfectly justified under the circumstances and worked as intended.
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what was that all about?

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 01:33 AM (7XWyA)

We were a private company gearing up to go public or be acquired; our customers were larger public companies. In past years, they had been known to return EVERYTHING of ours in their inventory at 4:30 PM on the last day of a quarter, then demand it shipped back to them at 8 AM the next day. If they could get the stock clerk's signature on the document, we would have to eat this abuse.
Stock clerks, while amiable, are not normally the sharpest knives in the drawer and are usually in the "go along to get along" crowd. The CEO was making it abundantly clear that this was fucking war, and there could be casualties.
And, yes, the assholes showed up with a huge semi of our gear -- and the stock guys went and got the CEO to tell the customer's minions how SOL they were.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 01:45 AM (EzgxV)

321 All, I'll say, is they never thought podcasting would go anywhere. Now look at Carolla, Bill Burr, Marc Maron, etc.

If anyone can kick off new access to a media format, it would be the guys from one of the most popular shows in the world.

But thats just me.. I'm really curious how it works out for them.. Also, I'm NOT going to watch it on Amazon.. so there's that lol.

Personally, I think they should have went with Discovery Networks, but thats just me.

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 01:45 AM (R1ejq)

322 then there was the platoon leader who was stupid, ambitious, liked to personally tape all his troopers, with their shirts off BTW, and always kept rearranging the tape to "get an accurate reading"... he tried that with me once: after the 3rd reset i said "enough. you are NOT taping me." among other things, we were supposed to tape with t-shirts on, and most people did it facing you, but he wanted to stand behind us.

did i mention he was stupid? he simply signed the section property receipt when he took over, w/o an inventory, and never did a 10% or yearly the whole time he was PL. the say we were to do the layout, he was off receiving his masters degree.

we sent him on his way with a $35K report of survey...and yes, he was the only person on the alert roster who's next of kin was a male "friend". this was in the mid-90s

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 01:46 AM (7XWyA)

323 The Socks don't get shirts!

Posted by: Chi at July 11, 2016 01:46 AM (WDs/x)

324 AOP, what can I say? You're a stronger man than I am, Gunga Din.

I admit it, I'm sick of bullies. I got bullied when I was in school and I hated it. I got the shit beat out of me by a bully when I was 13 years old. I got through it by telling myself that when I'm an adult, the bullies will be gone.

No, they're not gone. They're right there holding my job in the palm of my hand, telling me that if I don't suck their dick continuously for the next three hours, I'm fired and they're going to make my life a living hell. I'm sorry, I'm tired of living that way and I don't want to do it. I'm a weakling, I know.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:46 AM (q7T0y)

325
After they droned Zarqwai's ass, the Americans and Iraqis rushed to the site to see if he was dead and recover the body. There was a stand off over it between the Iraqis and us. Zarqwai was alive and we even tried to revive him. Blech.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 11, 2016 01:46 AM (iQIUe)

326 #153

The false quote that will never die.

I defy you to proves Gates ever said that.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 01:47 AM (IdCqF)

327 The upside to being an asshole on the way up, is you get to insult the dipshits in new and interesting ways on the way back down, also.

Posted by: otho at July 11, 2016 01:47 AM (EWg9n)

328 You may get the "Yelper's Special"

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 11, 2016 01:44 AM (1JnAL)

You know, its proper etiquette to link the song.

https://youtu.be/pDlR_ccnZww

Posted by: buzzion at July 11, 2016 01:47 AM (bMG0w)

329 And they already had all of Top Gear.

Maybe they had a non-compete clause because of that, tho, who knows..

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 01:47 AM (R1ejq)

330 You know some of those ridiculous air compressor rating that would say "5HP" with a 115V plug on them? They were using this peak power at acceleration to get that.

If you'd look at the NEMA nameplate, which is a standard thing, you'd see "Spec" (special) in the HP field. This was how they got away with it. NEMA wouldn't allow such a cock-eyed definition of motor power, so they'd put special in it, and wouldn't have to give a real number.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 11, 2016 01:44 AM (DW+jj)

IIRC, a series-wound DC motor delivers peak torque at stall. Think starter motor. Of course, it won't do that for very long before things melt...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 01:49 AM (GSdpU)

331 Posted by: GGE of the Working Horde, NC Chapter at July 11, 2016 12:58 AM (30qi/)

My mileage has varied...

I was involved in things in the US Navy that never made the news...

Note, we STILL do not know what the CIA was doing in Benghazi....

Posted by: Don Quixote, looking for an impossible dream? at July 11, 2016 01:49 AM (qf6WZ)

332 Did you see the photo of the body of the shooter? He was dead but he didnt look like he died from an explosion, though from the debris around the body, there obviously was an explosion.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 11, 2016 01:50 AM (iQIUe)

333 Note, we STILL do not know what the CIA was doing in Benghazi....

Posted by: Don Quixote, looking for an impossible dream?

I'm pretty sure WE know.. its just not OFFICIAL. lol

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 01:52 AM (R1ejq)

334 #319

There was the not insignificant effect of Amazon coming up with the budget to do it to their satisfaction. Shipping is all well and good but Amazon is in the streaming video business to win.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 01:52 AM (IdCqF)

335 AOP - I'm not a turbine guy, but pretty sure that they make theoretical max torque at 0 rpm. It has to be downhill after that, no?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, author of buggy code at July 11, 2016 01:52 AM (mxCgt)

336 JarvisW, thank you for seeing my point.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:54 AM (q7T0y)

337 Sure, you can scream and yell. If you own the company or are best buddies with the boss, you can probably get away with everything up to and including embezzlement, and never get fired, while screaming at your employees that blinking out of turn will earn them a shallow grave in the desert. But it reflects on the boss, not the employee. And if your ego, your need for control, is so great that abusing the coffee boy is what it takes to enforce it? Something's severely wrong, and not just with the coffee boy, no matter how much you try to justify it.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:41 AM (q7T0y)

He was the owner, I was the number 3 in the organization. We had a lot of new competition in the couple of years prior to my being hired there, and he was having some health problems and wanted to make sure that we were going to be up to the pressure of taking over running the company when he wasn't able to. Two years later I was running the company because he had died. It was more to thicken my skin up than to be a tyrant. It taught me to cut through the bullshit and get to the bottom line. It also taught me to watch my damn back because the reason I was getting my ass chewed out was that the #2 guy in the organization wanted to have complete control and was sabotagueing me at every chance he could, I had no idea until after the owner died what had gone on.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 11, 2016 01:54 AM (1JnAL)

338 No, they're not gone. They're right there holding my job in the palm of my hand, telling me that if I don't suck their dick continuously for the next three hours, I'm fired and they're going to make my life a living hell. I'm sorry, I'm tired of living that way and I don't want to do it. I'm a weakling, I know.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 01:46 AM (q7T0y)

I wouldn't stand for bullying like that in "normal" circumstances. But show business, with prima-donna "stars", is, more or less by definition, not normal circumstances. If the "underling" knows, going into the situation, that the "talent" will be verbally abusive, and that they will be well paid to take that shit, then it's their choice isn't it? You do know there are people who pay good money to be spanked by scantily-clad women?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 01:55 AM (GSdpU)

339 As the old timers used to say, I've forgotten so much. In my young days I was a nut about ee-letric shit, and could recite electric motor equations from rote. But it's hard to pull out.

Induction motors (don't ask about synchronous -- I've really forgotten that) have the stall characteristic. Put an increasing load on them, the slip (speed/synchronous speed) decreases, and torque increases. Up to the point of max torque, then torque decreases as a function of speed.

This give it a quickly bog down property. If you it beyond max torque, it quickly stalls.

You can vary the characteristics where the minimum torque before the maximum occurs at a higher speed that locked rotor. That is, on starting, torque will decrease to a point, then start increasing again.

Some old "wound rotor" motors had slip rings that would allow you to insert resistance (and other things) into the rotor circuit, and you could vary all this behavior. That was expensive. WIth the common squirrel cage, all that is fixed.

Now, a single phase motor would have zero locked rotor torque, and you have to do something to introduce a phase shift in a second set of windings. "Split phase" puts some high resistance in a secondary, then cuts out at some preset set speed. The best are capacitor start.

The torque curves of these will have a discontinuity because of that winding switching. A split phase or capacitor start motor wouldn't last very long with the start winding running continuously because it would burn up.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 11, 2016 01:58 AM (DW+jj)

340 338 like I said, I've been on set many times, and like you say, its different.

It's also why I'll give JC another shot, but if he doesn't change, not only will I leave, but he may never get a second chance.

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 01:58 AM (R1ejq)

341 Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 01:45 AM (EzgxV)

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ah ha! that makes perfect sense.

i went to draw some radios from another unit, and their S-4 NCO made me find him several that w*rked for his use, prior to letting us get some for our use. (they had originally been emplaced by my unit several moths before, and his was the last to use them, after which he said he was going to drop them all off with us on their way home.)

we found 4 that w*rked really well, set them aside for us, then found the first set of half assed ones we gave to him. i mentioned that many of them were totally inop, and someone would have to write up 2404's on them all... he told me that wasn't going to happen, since, on paper, they all belonged to my unit.

being a good little E-4 (he was an E-

i agreed. took the radios back, dropped them off in the field, then went back to report in. after explaining what took so long, including how FUBAR the equipment was, i suggested to the First Shirt that it would be a good thing if someone ordered me to NOT accept any equipment being turned in W/O the proper documents.

an hour later the CSM came by and said the Colonel specifically said we weren't to accept anything, from anyone, W/O all required documents.

the look on asshat's face on Sunday was priceless, knowing he had to drag all that crap back to Stockton, pull PMCS on it all, write up ALL the red tape, then arrange to have it shipped all over the state to the original units.

IOW, screwing with peons isn't smart, especially if the peons are smarter than you are.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 01:59 AM (7XWyA)

342
Jim Gaffigan did a stupid joke. He tells the gay friend of his wife, who is wearing a suit, that he looks like the love child of Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. It wasnt funny, it was a normal suit, and the guy isnt latino. So there was no humor in it. Just a dumb anti conservative jab.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 11, 2016 01:59 AM (iQIUe)

343 Maet, Endorian Ruling Council, Powers that Be an ALWAYS The Horde Oh Plenty......

Please, take a look at the site I've linked.

Mountain Guerrilla is on par with Weaponsman an any of the other expert resources y'all share here.

His latest post regarding Dallas will make you think.

Take 5 minutes and decide for yourselves. I guarantee it will not be time wasted. MG's resume speaks for itself.

Altruistic, unaffiliated, educational infomercial over.....

Evenin Horde......fuck it's almost 2am. I got today off. Heh.

Posted by: Hillbillyking at July 11, 2016 01:59 AM (HB5J9)

344 331
Posted by: GGE of the Working Horde, NC Chapter at July 11, 2016 12:58 AM (30qi/)

My mileage has varied...

I was involved in things in the US Navy that never made the news...

Note, we STILL do not know what the CIA was doing in Benghazi....

Posted by: Don Quixote, looking for an impossible dream? at July 11, 2016 01:49 AM (qf6WZ)
331
Posted by: GGE of the Working Horde, NC Chapter at July 11, 2016 12:58 AM (30qi/)

My mileage has varied...

I was involved in things in the US Navy that never made the news...

Note, we STILL do not know what the CIA was doing in Benghazi....

Posted by: Don Quixote, looking for an impossible dream? at July 11, 2016 01:49 AM (qf6WZ)

IIRC, most people are reasonably certain that Benghazi was vacuuming up excess weapons given to those who had offed Qadafi and shipping them, through Turkey, to Syrian rebels who supposedly wanted to do a Qadafi on Assad. Get two military fiascos for the price of one, as it were.

Unfortunately, The Smartest Guys In The Room had no idea that they'd armed a bunch of warlords to the teeth and that none of them had any real interest in being the weakest faction in Libya -- so, when cash bonuses for "returning" arms got large.....this effectively spread the message that "American idiots have large amounts of cash and arms stockpiled, and are taking us for fools."

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 02:00 AM (EzgxV)

345 I defy you to proves Gates ever said that.
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sure he did: i read it on the internet

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 02:01 AM (7XWyA)

346 AOP - I'm not a turbine guy, but pretty sure that they make theoretical max torque at 0 rpm. It has to be downhill after that, no?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, author of buggy code at July 11, 2016 01:52 AM (mxCgt)

How can a gas turbine make any torque at all at zero RPM? If the compressor wheels aren't turning, there's no compressed air getting to the combustion chamber to burn and make hot gases to turn the turbine wheels. I've been on turbine helicopters many times. Starting routine: wind, wind, wind, wind, wind, gears whining for 20 seconds or more as the turboshaft gets up to some minimum speed. Then a "whump" as the fire is lit, and then things get interesting.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 02:01 AM (GSdpU)

347 Got a car question tonight.

Bought a new car back in Oct 2013, brand spanking new, right off the truck, 4 miles when I took title to it.

This morning, the battery is dead. Jumped it, drove it around for an hour, went home had lunch, went to start car, battery dead. Charged it for several hours, still wouldn't start without a jump.

My question is, is 30 months a good life for an OEM battery? It's been so long since I had a new car, I couldn't remember when my other ones died.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 11, 2016 02:01 AM (1JnAL)

348 Bullies? Bloody hell. Try being a woman architect in the 1980's. I was called just about everything from "that little filly" to "the chick who called." Contractors tried to pass off the crap in the back of the truck for duly spec'd items required by the contract. "Honey, don't you think that's just fine the way it is?"

"No. And I'm holding your pay request right here, chief."

Those old boys were a breed apart. Mostly gone now, thank heaven, but it got old in a hurry.

Had one Korean subcontractor say he couldn't deal with one of the field officers because she was a woman. So I asked him who he would prefer to deal with. He listed another, female, field officer. WTF?

I was only passed an envelope once, which I promptly passed on to the MP's at the gate of the base. Let's just say that particular contractor was NOT invited back to the party.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 11, 2016 02:01 AM (+YMhA)

349 Slip increases, speed decreases, I should say say. Slip is the difference in actual speed vs synchronous speed (determined by frequency) expressed as fraction.

In some of the motor equation, this term comes in handy.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 11, 2016 02:01 AM (DW+jj)

350 My question is, is 30 months a good life for an OEM battery? It's been so long since I had a new car, I couldn't remember when my other ones died.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 11, 2016 02:01 AM (1JnAL)

Nope. You got a short somewhere.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 11, 2016 02:02 AM (+YMhA)

351 Ashley, I'm glad things worked out for you, I'm just not sophisticated enough to understand why there needs to be so much game-playing. I was always taught, you find out who's got the balls by loading them up with more and more responsibility, NOT by larding them up with more and more abuse.

Of course you let people know when they let you down, and you make clear what's acceptable and what's not. You, AOP and others have been describing bosses who at least seemed to have a "method to their madness." Well, that's great, I'm sure there are other bosses out there like that, and bully for you guys, but I've had bosses for whom the madness *was* their method, and it made no sense whatsoever except that their bloody egos demanded someone be made a martyr every year or six months or whatever. I hate for underlings to be run through a rat maze just for the great non-prize of finding out whether they were abused "for their own good," or just because the boss felt like it and has all the moral sense of a mosquito.

AOP, also: you mention pay rates and what to expect the further up the chain of command you get. I suppose there's a grain of sensibility there, but I can't tell you how many lowest-level jobs I've had (I'm talking min wage or near it), where the bosses just felt that was one more excuse to be as big an asshole as possible. "You're cheap and disposable, why should I give a shit?" Yeah, such a great attitude to have about your department. And then these same dipshits wonder why can't get ahead, and subsequently take it out on even more low-end employees coming in the door. It's a vicious cycle.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:04 AM (q7T0y)

352 Split-phase. I remember there was some old Craftsman grinder. It used a start winding (split phase) that depended on series magnetic switch. With heavy inrush current in the main winding, it would pull the switch for the start winding closed. As main winding current decreased as it came up to speed, the switch would drop off, opening the start winding.

If you mounted the grinder upside down, it wouldn't work, the switch would stay closed, and you'd probably overheat the thing.

That was a head scratcher for some who tried that.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 11, 2016 02:05 AM (DW+jj)

353 Yeah, 30mo is a lil soon.

Most batteries last for like 4-5 yrs, and guaranteed for 3+ for the cheap ones. (4+ for next lvl)

See if your dealer will warranty it and check for shorts.

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 02:06 AM (R1ejq)

354 My question is, is 30 months a good life for an OEM battery? It's been so long since I had a new car, I couldn't remember when my other ones died.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper
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No.
Bad battery. Bad connection. Bad alternator brushes?
Or you're not driving it enough.

Posted by: Chi at July 11, 2016 02:07 AM (WDs/x)

355 This morning, the battery is dead. Jumped it, drove it around for an hour, went home had lunch, went to start car, battery dead. Charged it for several hours, still wouldn't start without a jump.

My question is, is 30 months a good life for an OEM battery? It's been so long since I had a new car, I couldn't remember when my other ones died.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's

How often do you run it?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 11, 2016 02:09 AM (GINyK)

356 My question is, is 30 months a good life for an OEM battery? It's been so long since I had a new car, I couldn't remember when my other ones died.

Depends on where you live. Most of the country, 4-5 years minimum. In this little corner of hell, 3 years is a good run, 2 isn't all that unusual.

Then again, I haven't paid full price for a battery in a long time.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 11, 2016 02:10 AM (T/cxb)

357 341
Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 01:45 AM (EzgxV)

---
ah ha! that makes perfect sense.

i went to draw
some radios from another unit, and their S-4 NCO made me find him
several that w*rked for his use, prior to letting us get some for our
use. (they had originally been emplaced by my unit several moths before,
and his was the last to use them, after which he said he was going to
drop them all off with us on their way home.)

we found 4 that
w*rked really well, set them aside for us, then found the first set of
half assed ones we gave to him. i mentioned that many of them were
totally inop, and someone would have to write up 2404's on them all...
he told me that wasn't going to happen, since, on paper, they all
belonged to my unit.

being a good little E-4 (he was an E-
i agreed. took the radios back, dropped them off in the field, then
went back to report in. after explaining what took so long, including
how FUBAR the equipment was, i suggested to the First Shirt that it
would be a good thing if someone ordered me to NOT accept any equipment
being turned in W/O the proper documents.

an hour later the CSM
came by and said the Colonel specifically said we weren't to accept
anything, from anyone, W/O all required documents.

the look on
asshat's face on Sunday was priceless, knowing he had to drag all that
crap back to Stockton, pull PMCS on it all, write up ALL the red tape,
then arrange to have it shipped all over the state to the original
units.

IOW, screwing with peons isn't smart, especially if the peons are smarter than you are.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 01:59 AM (7XWyA)

Yeah, the assholes in question were trying to return modules, spares, replacement parts, everything....anything they had not sold to a customer, even if they would need it for the next day's production (and could theoretically penalize us for late delivery if they couldn't ship the next day). Our CEO was thoroughly experienced with these guys over a number of years and headed-em off at the pass....while the average tenure of a stockroom clerk is maybe 18 months and their normal experience with delivery people is to be helpful. When you have about 400 employees and the CEO shows up in the warehouse to make an important announcement, and does so clearly, it sticks.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 02:10 AM (EzgxV)

358 AOP, also: you mention pay rates and what to expect the further up the chain of command you get. I suppose there's a grain of sensibility there, but I can't tell you how many lowest-level jobs I've had (I'm talking min wage or near it), where the bosses just felt that was one more excuse to be as big an asshole as possible. "You're cheap and disposable, why should I give a shit?" Yeah, such a great attitude to have about your department. And then these same dipshits wonder why can't get ahead, and subsequently take it out on even more low-end employees coming in the door. It's a vicious cycle.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:04 AM (q7T0y)

Steve, you sound just like an old Wobbly. Most people don't get bullied at work. Why are you so outrageously set upon?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 02:11 AM (GSdpU)

359 Hey look, I admit it: I'm an idealist. I wish for things that are never going to come true. Even if God sent 10,000 lightning bolts to take care of Jeremy Clarkson this very second... bosses, today and likely forever, are always going to mess up, get mad, yell, get abusive, maybe (God forbid) hit and threaten. It's the way of the world. It's wrong but it's human nature. Ultimately people, employees, wherever they are on the totem pole, need to look after themselves and have the gumption to say "that's unacceptable, and I'll be going somewhere else to work." Of course that's the ideal solution, when the employee him/herself has the ability to go somewhere else and tell the boss where to stick it.

And then there's context. If you've worked somewhere for *five years,* and *one time* in that entire five years the boss was an abusive idiot? No you didn't have an "abusive boss," you had a boss who had a bad day. And if the boss reciprocated by letting you have "one bad day" and not going too nuclear that one time you really messed up, that makes things pretty even in my book.

I'm sensitive. I admit it. I'm definitely too sensitive for this crowd. I try to think about the other person's POV even when I know it's a waste of time. I wish life were more fair and happy. I wish it didn't look so much like humanity is speeding at breakneck speed towards a terrifying abyss, and keep hoping that we're really not. This is me. That's all. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:13 AM (q7T0y)

360 Steve, you sound just like an old Wobbly. Most people don't get bullied at work. Why are you so outrageously set upon?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 02:11 AM (GSdpU)

Actually, just about everyone gets bullied at work in one form or another. I am currently waiting for the company brown noser to hang herself with all the rope I've offered. She a shit, but she kisses up like nobody's business. Not sure why she is tolerated, but there will come a time. I have a list of the times she has threatened me, been downright awful, and I have witnesses ready to go.

I am very much not worried about this woman--she will get her due. She's not smart enough to avoid it. But, I will bide my time. I will not be the bitchy one, the whiner or the complainer. She will bring it all on herself.

It is not a rare occurence.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 11, 2016 02:14 AM (+YMhA)

361 @332

Overpressure.

Explosions are fatal without tearing someone apart.

Posted by: Hillbillyking at July 11, 2016 02:15 AM (HB5J9)

362 My question is, is 30 months a good life for an OEM battery? It's been so long since I had a new car, I couldn't remember when my other ones died.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 11, 2016 02:01 AM (1JnAL)

Car still in warranty? If so, take it to the dealer, and demand that they check the battery itself, the charging system, and check for parasitic power drains (such as a trunk lamp staying on, even though the trunk lid is closed; modern cars have a plethora of possible parasitic loads).

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 02:15 AM (GSdpU)

363 I've been watching a bunch of stuff on Ghostbusters on youtube because: Trainwreck. Massive, Massive Trainwreck in slow motion. And the reviews are starting to come in. Apparently all men are incompetent, stupid, and/or assholes. And yeah awful.

Posted by: buzzion at July 11, 2016 02:15 AM (bMG0w)

364 Sports guy just said some golf chick "grounded the club" by touching the sand in the sand pit before drawing back for the swing..

Thats a thing?? I thought you could touch the ground, grass, sand etc, as long as you didn't touch the ball?

All I really know about it is from Caddyshack tho, so...

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 02:17 AM (R1ejq)

365 #219

That was more the CIA's job and they were kinda bad at it. A friend who worked at Boeing in the late 50s and early 60s said they were constantly having their analysis of high altitude reconnaissance rejected by the CIA, despite being proven correct on pretty much everything they saw the Soviets doing.

The CIA would also insist that Vietnam and various other conflicts the Soviets were sponsoring was only costing them around 15% of their GDP, while other analysts said it was at least a ruinous 30%. The CIA generally got the last word on any data presented for policy decisions. Reagan knew he could bring down the Soviets because he wasn't limited to the CIA's version of reality.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 02:17 AM (IdCqF)

366 For Steve:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPrSVkTRb24

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 02:18 AM (GSdpU)

367 358
AOP, also: you mention pay rates and what to expect the further up the
chain of command you get. I suppose there's a grain of sensibility
there, but I can't tell you how many lowest-level jobs I've had (I'm
talking min wage or near it), where the bosses just felt that was one
more excuse to be as big an asshole as possible. "You're cheap and
disposable, why should I give a shit?" Yeah, such a great attitude to
have about your department. And then these same dipshits wonder why
can't get ahead, and subsequently take it out on even more low-end
employees coming in the door. It's a vicious cycle.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:04 AM (q7T0y)

Steve, you sound just like an old Wobbly. Most people don't get bullied at work. Why are you so outrageously set upon?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 02:11 AM (GSdpU)

In different times and places, things are different. When I joined the fiberoptics place, they had an EEOC complaint in about racist treatment to someone who got bullied out the door. My defense for the company? -- I documented that EVERYONE was getting bullied regardless of race, and there was reason to believe the complainant received comparably favorable treatment. [This is, BTW, much easier to pull-off if you're new....if the guys doing the bullying hadn't already been sacked, themselves, it probably wouldn't have worked.]

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 02:18 AM (EzgxV)

368 AOP, see my 2:13. :-)

And IMHO, the difference between me and the wobbly? The wobbly wants the whole world to change, the big brother gubmint to step in and, in turn, bully the boss out of his bullying tendencies. Now you've really got an untouchable bully boss: the Feds.

I OTOH want for employees to stand up for themselves (no that doesn't necessarily have to mean a union) and for bosses, CEOs, *everybody* to get some fucking perspective: money doesn't make *anything* right.

And yeah, I've been bullied at work and fired, and after all this time? I can't do fucking anything about it. I just get to be angry while all these idiots out there get to be untouchable. It's something I have to deal with and I get emotional. I admit it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:18 AM (q7T0y)

369 I have a little over 23K miles on it, most of it is short trips with some very long ones mixed in every few months. It was dead one morning this winter during a cold snap, and we had a spike in temps this weekend and in the past when I got new batteries, they would always crap out in extreme weather when they were at the end of their service lifes.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 11, 2016 02:18 AM (1JnAL)

370 363: The commercials for it look awful. If your going to show commercials, shouldn't they be a little bit funny? This Ghostbusters is going to suck, bad.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2016 02:19 AM (nQNVp)

371 Thats a thing?? I thought you could touch the ground, grass, sand etc, as long as you didn't touch the ball?

All I really know about it is from Caddyshack tho, so...

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 02:17 AM (R1ejq)

If your club's not grounded, it might get struck by lightning.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 02:20 AM (GSdpU)

372 tcn, good points.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:20 AM (q7T0y)

373 347 Got a car question tonight.

Bought a new car back in Oct 2013, brand spanking new, right off the truck, 4 miles when I took title to it.

This morning, the battery is dead. Jumped it, drove it around for an hour, went home had lunch, went to start car, battery dead. Charged it for several hours, still wouldn't start without a jump.

My question is, is 30 months a good life for an OEM battery? It's been so long since I had a new car, I couldn't remember when my other ones died.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 11, 2016 02:01 AM (1JnAL)

That seems kind of short for life. But I do know to be careful on places checking your "Battery Life."

Went in to a local place for the first time to have a leak in a tire plugged. They didn't tell me beforehand that they do a "32 point inspection on all vehicles" as well. And after the tire was fixed, (Kind of crappily actually since it does still go low sometimes) they told me my battery was going bad and they could replace it. "Might only have a month left." That was in November.

I've been tempted to go back in there and tell them what I think.

Posted by: buzzion at July 11, 2016 02:20 AM (bMG0w)

374 370 363: The commercials for it look awful. If your going to show commercials, shouldn't they be a little bit funny? This Ghostbusters is going to suck, bad.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2016 02:19 AM (nQNVp)

Shut up hater!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 02:23 AM (3ZoRf)

375 370 363: The commercials for it look awful. If your going to show commercials, shouldn't they be a little bit funny? This Ghostbusters is going to suck, bad.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2016 02:19 AM (nQNVp)

And notice the "tie-in" commercials have men in the costumes. Progressive has the dork in the suit. Why wouldn't you have Flo, but she's the ghost. And now there's a Papa John's commercial and its John in the suit.

Posted by: buzzion at July 11, 2016 02:23 AM (bMG0w)

376 That seems kind of short for life. But I do know to be careful on places checking your "Battery Life."

Seconded.

Was having weird electrical issues with a vehicle. Had a place tell me there was nothing wrong with the battery, two days later it was dead.

Strangely, all of the electrical issues disappeared when a new battery was installed.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 11, 2016 02:24 AM (T/cxb)

377 I wonder if the new Ghostbusters will set a record for product placement?

I can tell you that Papa Johns & Progressive have plastered every OTA channel in my market with idiotic Ghostbusters commercials.
I'm sure the Papa Johns ads alone have turned a lot of folks off - at least 50 per day on a single channel.

Posted by: Chi at July 11, 2016 02:24 AM (WDs/x)

378 In an enterprise like a TV show there are people who are replaceable and those who are not. Clarkson, as the BBC has learned was not replaceable. 'Top Gear' was around in various forms since the 70s but spent of it's existence as a little car show that went through numerous hosts over the years and barely held on to it's non-prime time slot. Clarkson came on and worked his way up over the years to be the lead host and the show was suddenly drawing an audience massively greater than anything it had previously enjoyed.

Much as Russell Davies was critical to reviving Dr. Who and garnering a popularity far greater than it had previously known, the Clarkson lead 'Top Gear' was something new and special. So yes, Clarkson had earned some leeway and many feel it wasn't a coincidence that the assigned producer had attributes guaranteed to clash with Clarkson.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 02:25 AM (IdCqF)

379 G'night everyone, gotta pretend to work tomorrow.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 11, 2016 02:25 AM (T/cxb)

380 364 Sports guy just said some golf chick "grounded the club" by touching the sand in the sand pit before drawing back for the swing..

Thats a thing?? I thought you could touch the ground, grass, sand etc, as long as you didn't touch the ball?

Sand traps are considered hazards. If she touched the sand before drawing back, then thats a penalty.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2016 02:25 AM (nQNVp)

381 Oh, as for Jim Gaffigan.. I'm not sure hes a rightie, but hes not a full tard lefty.

His first episode this season was about the Twitter/PC police, and they put him on trial for some innocuous tweet he did.

It was freekin great to see the PC crowd made fun of so harshly!

We need MORE JG's, even if he does make a GOP joke once in a while lol.

Also, I have no problem with that joke, as his friend (Micheal Ian Black) is prob uncomfortable with being compared to Cruz. They are more like Frenimies in the show, btw. So it would fit the storylines

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 02:25 AM (R1ejq)

382 AOP, thanks for that youtube. Here's another one that kinda/sorta applies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBW9Gt2ha44

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:25 AM (q7T0y)

383 If your club's not grounded, it might get struck by lightning.
---
not if it's a 1 iron!

Posted by: Lee Travino at July 11, 2016 02:25 AM (7XWyA)

384 Shut up hater!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 02:23 AM (3ZoRf)

That literally seems to be their strategy.

I am trying to decide whether they are just going for as much possible controversy to salvage a bad movie.

Or

They really are that stupid.

Occam's razor. Hmmm.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 02:25 AM (3ZoRf)

385 I have a little over 23K miles on it, most of it is short trips with some very long ones mixed in every few months. It was dead one morning this winter during a cold snap, and we had a spike in temps this weekend and in the past when I got new batteries, they would always crap out in extreme weather when they were at the end of their service lifes.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 11, 2016 02:18 AM (1JnAL)

Well, I'd still go with trying the warranty route. Because if something is wrong with the car's electrical system, the battery failure is a consequence, not a cause. But if warranty is not an option, have the battery charged at a service shop, and then perform a load check. No point in load-checking a discharged battery. Batteries can and do go bad unexpectedly. I have seen the spot welds fail on inter-cell connectors. Goes from 100% good to zero in a heartbeat. And might come back momentarily, if you hold your mouth right.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 02:27 AM (GSdpU)

386 Apparently Target has no confidence in the 'Ghostbusters' reboot. It may not be the first time media license toys were heavily discounted in advance of a movie opening but I cannot recall another instance.

The closest I can get is some case of a movie or TV show having toys coming to market well after the movie bombed or the show was canceled, sending the toys directly to the clearance shelf.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 02:28 AM (IdCqF)

387 Then a "whump" as the fire is lit, and then things get interesting.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
----------

Well, yes, hence the 'theoretical'. I mean, a single cylinder piston engine would 'theoretically' produce max torque at zero rpm, if the cylinder was magically charged with the proper fuel/air mix. But, none the less, turbines go to max torque *very* quickly after the compressor starts pumping air, and torque drops off quickly as they spin up. Here's a diagram:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/jd6ab5j

Posted by: Mike Hammer, author of buggy code at July 11, 2016 02:29 AM (ANVXm)

388 ah ok then..

If I was playing with someone I wouldn't count it lol. Seems excessive.

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 02:29 AM (R1ejq)

389 time for a mug of throat medicine: lemon juice whisky and honey.

then a shower, another mug and a, hopefully, drugged sleep.

BIAB

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 02:29 AM (7XWyA)

390 I am trying to decide whether they are just going for as much possible controversy to salvage a bad movie.

A lot of the stuff on youtube covers the claims how Sony has ignored all the female critics of the movie and gone after only the males. And also that they have deleted most criticisms on the trailers and only leaving the sexist comments there.

Posted by: buzzion at July 11, 2016 02:29 AM (bMG0w)

391 Epobirs, it's always a conundrum when the star of a super-profitable enterprise... is also a screaming, yelling, unstable mess of a lousy excuse of a human being.

One thing that could have been done by BBC, is create a "personnel barrier." I.e., only certain people on the set get to talk to said talent, and said talent is instructed to only ever talk to those people back. The coffee guy puts cream in Clarkson's coffee when he's lactose intolerant? Let the sane Senior Production Advisor tell the coffee guy never to do that again, don't wait for Clarkson to storm over and hit the guy.

Again, AOP mentioned pay scales and differences in how people are treated. Yes it's a fair point: abuse is, for many if not most people, easier to deal with when you're doing pretty well yourself on the job, pay and prestige-wise. It's amazing to me that this solution was apparently never presented about Clarkson; he was IMHO being enabled by a cowed production staff, but that's pure conjecture on my part.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:30 AM (q7T0y)

392 If your club's not grounded, it might get struck by lightning.

Great scene with the Priest playing in the rain lol..

"I think its starting to let up..." *KABOOM!!*

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 02:31 AM (R1ejq)

393 386 Apparently Target has no confidence in the 'Ghostbusters' reboot. It may not be the first time media license toys were heavily discounted in advance of a movie opening but I cannot recall another instance.

The closest I can get is some case of a movie or TV show having toys coming to market well after the movie bombed or the show was canceled, sending the toys directly to the clearance shelf.
Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 02:28 AM (IdCqF)

Hmmm, that is an interesting question. Waterworld maybe? Alien 3? Terminator 3?

Just trying to think of movies that were expected to be big but did not do that well.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 02:32 AM (3ZoRf)

394 by the by, someone up tread commented on Soviet forces towing their tanks from one place to another.

if they meant trailering them from one place to another on low boys, that's SOP.

AFV's breakdown a lot to begin with, and driving them on hardball roads is hard on them AND the roads.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 02:33 AM (7XWyA)

395

The 'Ghostbusters' reboot

I can already smell it through my DSL line. Thanks ... but no.

Maetenloch:

If you're reading, here's another suitable target for the ban hammer:

https://www.hotgas.net/2016/07/ace-spades-petulant-bitch/

Make hotgas.net get off the interwebs.

Posted by: Arbalest at July 11, 2016 02:33 AM (FlRtG)

396 Hey AOP and Ashley:

If it makes you feel better, I'll finally get my own taste of being the "untouchable boss" when I start shooting this movie. I'll be supervising actors, crew, supporting personnel, and we'll see how wonderfully patient and understanding that I am when people mess up and cause problems, delays and "situations" on the set.

Then we can talk about this again, and who knows. Maybe I'll have some perspective then that I don't have now.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:33 AM (q7T0y)

397 up tread...

LOL, i'm punchy tonight

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 02:35 AM (7XWyA)

398 A lot of the stuff on youtube covers the claims how Sony has ignored all the female critics of the movie and gone after only the males. And also that they have deleted most criticisms on the trailers and only leaving the sexist comments there.
Posted by: buzzion at July 11, 2016 02:29 AM (bMG0w)

Kind of crafty if so, and audience manipulation on a pretty big scale. Of course, maybe they know their audience for the film.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 02:35 AM (3ZoRf)

399 That photo of Mars looks like New Mexico. Just sayin'...

Posted by: Captain Obvious at July 11, 2016 02:35 AM (yODqO)

400 What about me?? I've been on MANY sets myself.

And been yelled at by alcoholic producers determined to ruin the project even tho, me the editor, and the director telling him NO!

lol

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 02:35 AM (R1ejq)

401 Reviews of the new Ghostbusters are finally coming out. Even superlefty Jeffrey Wells says it's a disappointment.

My hunch? It has a big opening weekend... then sinks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:36 AM (q7T0y)

402 And at the time I was saying "I'm not getting payed enough to take this kinda abuse! ... MAYBE for a couple grand a week I wouldn't mind it so much..."

All true

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 02:36 AM (R1ejq)

403 Nice BLM says Blacks who are not pissed off are white.

Good to see I am not on the top ten most wanted lists.

Listening further the BLM people want license to do whatever the f**k they want.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 11, 2016 02:36 AM (SzZnW)

404 JarvisW, well there you go. :-)

"Yessir Mr. Spielberg, I *am* the world's tallest pile of shit!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:37 AM (q7T0y)

405 401 Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:36 AM (q7T0y)

I don't think it is going to get a big opening weekend.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 11, 2016 02:37 AM (SzZnW)

406 Pets will still kill it.

I really hope it comes in like 5th, so maybe they will stop rebooting, se/prequal, or crossovers!

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 02:38 AM (R1ejq)

407 if they meant trailering them from one place to another on low boys, that's SOP.

AFV's breakdown a lot to begin with, and driving them on hardball roads is hard on them AND the roads.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 02:33 AM (7XWyA)

Yeah. The wear factor on the undercarriage of any tracked vehicle is pretty severe. There's more moving parts than a roller coaster car filled with Kate Uptons going over a series of bumps.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 02:38 AM (GSdpU)

408 Steve, what kinda project is it?

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 02:39 AM (R1ejq)

409 368
AOP, see my 2:13. :-)

And IMHO, the difference between me and the wobbly? The wobbly wants
the whole world to change, the big brother gubmint to step in and, in
turn, bully the boss out of his bullying tendencies. Now you've really
got an untouchable bully boss: the Feds.

I OTOH want for employees to stand up for themselves (no that
doesn't necessarily have to mean a union) and for bosses, CEOs,
*everybody* to get some fucking perspective: money doesn't make
*anything* right.

And yeah, I've been bullied at work and fired, and after all this
time? I can't do fucking anything about it. I just get to be angry while
all these idiots out there get to be untouchable. It's something I have
to deal with and I get emotional. I admit it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:18 AM (q7T0y)

The biggest contributor to crap like this is the fucking Federal government insisting that people with no useful skills (like Critical Zionist Lesbian Basket-Weaving graduates) rate higher, and should be paid more, than people with useful skills, like Electrical Engineers, ditch-diggers, and plumbers. This necessarily leads to trying to hire these incompetents for positions they are completely unsuited to perform, then babying them along as they flail. In a large enough business, you can get up to half the people in the company that fall into that category, and it's no wonder that some of your more talented people start holding a significant fraction of their coworkers in contempt.

I, myself, try to have an understanding of each and every one of "my guys" as an individual, and draw from them their best efforts towards corporate goals, but I understand the frustration. One of my proudest moments was in regard to a single mom that I'd originally hired as a receptionist -- and who caused a panic in her first week when her abusive boyfriend called in a terrorist threat against the company.....who was doing accounts payable within six months and a while later left the company to move to the Gold Country....where she became the office manager for a small manufacturer of widgets similar to golf-karts....and was running the company (including production) during the owner's extended absences......all within five years.

Cosmetology license, working as a receptionist, on the run from an abusive boyfriend.....to General Manager. There are rewards for bringing forth the best from your people, but there are also rewards for quickly smacking-down the worst.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 02:39 AM (EzgxV)

410 My hunch? It has a big opening weekend... then sinks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:36 AM (q7T0y)

How big? They've lowered the projection from $40 million to something like $35 million. And I think some of that is because if it does over perform their new number they can call it a success.

Posted by: buzzion at July 11, 2016 02:40 AM (bMG0w)

411 One of the greatest directors of all time, John Ford, had the reputation of being a screaming asshole boss on the set. He also loved calling his big star/discovery, John Wayne, an idiot who couldn't act.

Ford was also a complete hypocrite. If he overheard a crew member saying anything at all negative about another woman on the set, he'd have them fired. But when on one shoot, Ava Gardner challenged some of his directing decisions, he went nuclear on her with abusiveness and cussing.

It's also been written that between movies, Ford would hole up in his bedroom wearing nothing but a soiled bedsheet, and do nothing but drink from morning to night.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:40 AM (q7T0y)

412 407

Thanks for that mental image!

Seriously, MMMMmmmmmmmMMMMmmmMMMm*

*every time they bump

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 02:40 AM (R1ejq)

413 I really hope it comes in like 5th, so maybe they will stop rebooting, se/prequal, or crossovers!
Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 02:38 AM (R1ejq)

Unlikely. The studios seem to really like them because as long as you stay to the original formula, you have a built in audience- which is why the Ghostbusters reboot is so frickin bizarre.

"We are not going to stick with the built in audience, in fact, we will tell them they are a bunch of sexist boors!"

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 02:40 AM (3ZoRf)

414 There's more moving parts than a roller coaster car filled with Kate Uptons going over a series of bumps.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 02:38 AM (GSdpU)

Jarvis beat me to it. But you do have a way with words.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 02:42 AM (3ZoRf)

415

Seconded.

Was having weird electrical issues with a vehicle. Had a place tell me there was nothing wrong with the battery, two days later it was dead.

Strangely, all of the electrical issues disappeared when a new battery was installed.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 11, 2016 02:24 AM (T/cxb)

Big auto parts place here is Advance Auto and they will check the electrical system before selling you a new battery. Couple of years ago the wife's car was having an issue, took it by, and the guy said the battery was fine and just needed to be charged. So we charged it for about 36 hours. Mrs took my car to work that day while I took her car back to get a new battery. New guy checked, yep, you need a battery.

Good thing my car is under warranty, should be able to finagle a new battery out of them.

One thing I've noticed over the past 6 months or so is that when I turn off the ignition, the Sync screen flashes that it is shutting down to preserve battery. Usually, the radio wouldn't turn off until you opened the door, so I'm leaning towards a bad cell in the battery since the dash screens all turn on when I get in the car.

Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper at July 11, 2016 02:42 AM (1JnAL)

416 cthulhu, fair points.

JarvisW, I'm trying to decide between shooting a horror movie in the desert, or a black comedy in the suburbs. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:43 AM (q7T0y)

417 How big? They've lowered the projection from $40 million to something like $35 million. And I think some of that is because if it does over perform their new number they can call it a success.
Posted by: buzzion at July 11, 2016 02:40 AM (bMG0w)

Anyone know offhand what the budget for this steamer is? Advertising I would imagine has not been on the cheap side either.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 02:43 AM (3ZoRf)

418 410 Posted by: buzzion at July 11, 2016 02:40 AM (bMG0w)

Heh Sven may have been born in the morning but it was not this morning...

35 Million versus a projected 154 million dollar budget....

Hard to believe with such understandings of profit our nation is in oh 145-250 trillion dollars of liabilities.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 11, 2016 02:43 AM (SzZnW)

419 Yeah, have them look at it at least.

If they want to charge you for a new battery, then tell them no and go to the store. But they should at least do a double check on your systems, just to be sure.

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 02:44 AM (R1ejq)

420 I'm trying to decide between shooting a horror movie in the desert, or a black comedy in the suburbs. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve

Um, have you ever done anything like this before?

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 02:45 AM (R1ejq)

421 Even my hero of all time, Stanley Kubrick, was once reported to have been a bully boss.

See what Shelley Duvall has said about working with him on "The Shining."

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:45 AM (q7T0y)

422
Anyone know offhand what the budget for this steamer is? Advertising I would imagine has not been on the cheap side either.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 02:43 AM (3ZoRf)

Like I said, I've been watching stuff on youtube because Trainwreck. Budget was like $140 million. A very similar budget to Independence Day 2. And that had like $40 million opening weekend and is considered bad. But if Ghostbusters gets $40 million its going to be claimed as a success.

Posted by: buzzion at July 11, 2016 02:45 AM (bMG0w)

423 Oh, DC motors. They are very simple to analyze compared to AC. You have the two basics, series and parallel field motors.

In the series field motor, the torque goes as the square of the current. Speed is inverse to current, and these things have a run-away no load behavior (limited by friction and other higher order effects).

A series motor can produce a hell of a lot of starting torque for its size, but tends to run away no-load. A 12V starter will spin like hell no-load, as I'm sure you've seen. They won't fly apart, but it's not good to do that. Some things will indeed fly apart.

Now, a series field commutated motor has an interested property. It can run on both AC and DC of the same voltage. Hence, "universal motor". Well, the leakage inductance can play a role, and some DC designs wouldn't run too well on AC because of it. Design for low leakage, and you're good to go.

At some high enough frequency, it would be a problem for any design.

But at any rate, just about all power tool motors for 120VAC are universal motors. They have a high power to weight characteristic. They're inefficient compared to induction motors, but an induction motor of the same power and torque would be way too heavy for a hand-held tool.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 11, 2016 02:46 AM (DW+jj)

424 Jarvis, I have not. So I hope I can be patient with both myself and my co-workers on the set.

I do plan to make some mini-movies for YouTube before hand, but not sure exactly what those will look like. I hope I can provide myself a bit of on-the-set training.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:46 AM (q7T0y)

425 According to wikipedia, the budget is $144 million. Rotten tomatoes has it at 74%(?!) Metacritic has it lower at 6.6/10.

I am liking reading the newspeak on the wikipedia page under reception. "Praising the new cast while criticizing the editing and pacing."
"Marvelously cast supernatural comedy."

The redlettermedia review could be very interesting.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 02:47 AM (3ZoRf)

426 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1289401/

Vaginal Ghostbusters

I'd watch a Steel Magnolias marathon before I watched this shit....and my late mother in law went apeshit on my dismissing "Steel Magnolias" with the needed male ensemble sequel "Iron Petunias"

Posted by: sven10077 at July 11, 2016 02:48 AM (SzZnW)

427 [fnord]

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 11, 2016 02:48 AM (GdFQh)

428 Why wouldn't you have Flo, but she's the ghost.

Posted by: buzzion at July 11, 2016 02:23 AM (bMG0w)

Everyone hates Flo.

Everyone.

Posted by: The Insured hat at July 11, 2016 02:48 AM (vBeA5)

429 Just checking in to say I'm checking out. Blessings of health and abundance upon all the good hordelings.

---♥---

"Will a mere mortal rob God? Yet you rob me.

"But you ask, 'How are we robbing you?'

"In tithes and offerings. You are under a curse-your whole nation-because you are robbing me. Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this," says the Lord Almighty, "and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it...."

Posted by: mindful webworker - mercy at July 11, 2016 02:48 AM (5QyYN)

430 What did Flo do?

Besides tell everyone to kiss her grits, I mean?
;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:49 AM (q7T0y)

431 428 Posted by: The Insured hat at July 11, 2016 02:48 AM (vBeA5)

I like Flo hat....

I can't stand liberty mutual

Posted by: sven10077 at July 11, 2016 02:49 AM (SzZnW)

432 I can't stand liberty mutual

"Perfect!!"
;-)

My favorite Progressive commercials are the ones that look like 1970s educational films, complete with the washed-out color, blurred image and wavy sound.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:50 AM (q7T0y)

433 430 What did Flo do?

Besides tell everyone to kiss her grits, I mean?
;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:49 AM (q7T0y)

An Alice joke, really?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 02:50 AM (3ZoRf)

434 But at any rate, just about all power tool motors for 120VAC are universal motors. They have a high power to weight characteristic. They're inefficient compared to induction motors, but an induction motor of the same power and torque would be way too heavy for a hand-held tool.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 11, 2016 02:46 AM (DW+jj)

Vacuum cleaners are universal motors. And they sure rev up some. And blenders, and mixers, and coffee grinders. And line-operated electric lawn mowers. Although I think in some applications, permanent-magnet DC motors are supplanting the universal ones, because they can be smaller and lighter still.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 02:51 AM (GSdpU)

435 Aetius, give my regards to Broadway... ;-)

(Alice's dream was to go to Hollywood to become a star)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:52 AM (q7T0y)

436 Oh what a ONT our ONT is. My compliments to the chef!!!

p.s. I loved the Brit throwing shade at the Snowflake twits. 36% got off their duffs and voted for Remain and 64% said "whatever". I hope the Snowflakes here show that same enthusiasm for the Hildebeast.

Posted by: Hank at July 11, 2016 02:53 AM (LT4NY)

437

Hmmm, that is an interesting question. Waterworld maybe? Alien 3? Terminator 3?

Just trying to think of movies that were expected to be big but did not do that well.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 02:32 AM (3ZoRf)

Pluto Nash
Ishtar
Battlefield Earth
Cutthroat Island
Revolution

Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper at July 11, 2016 02:53 AM (1JnAL)

438 Everyone hates Flo.

Everyone.

Posted by: The Insured hat at July 11, 2016 02:48 AM (vBeA5)

She'd be OK with ball gag in her mouth. Or some other "pacifier".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 02:54 AM (GSdpU)

439 Yeah, start small. Do some shorts. Get craigslist help, or find a local filmmakers group on FB, etc.. You may also find some scripts that way too.

Pay for meals, and offer copys once done.

There's plenty of tutorials on how to do it.. (direction, blocking, etc)

Maybe try to be an extra in someone elses production, so you can see how its done (Well, or poorly, either is a good lesson lol)

Also, try to find a decent camera man that will put up with you, as that will let you concentrate on the Dir/Prod/Writer jobs. (that may be the only one you have to pay, but you might get lucky with a kid that needs a reel, tho that comes with its own drawbacks)

I edit on Avid, but you can get Premier pretty cheap, and its easier to use to start with.

I've been doin this off and on since I was about 16..

Do research, and good luck!

BTW, what part of the country are you in?

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 02:54 AM (R1ejq)

440 If you're reading, here's another suitable target for the ban hammer:

https://www.hotgas.net/2016/07/ace-spades-petulant-bitch/

Make hotgas.net get off the interwebs.

Posted by: Arbalest at July 11, 2016 02:33 AM (FlRtG)

Looks like someone is a bit obsessive...

Posted by: The Not-so-obsessive Hat at July 11, 2016 02:54 AM (vBeA5)

441 Jeez, every positive review on metacritic mentions the cast in the blurb. It is like the little girls in the Shinnin'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 02:54 AM (3ZoRf)

442 440 Posted by: The Not-so-obsessive Hat at July 11, 2016 02:54 AM (vBeA5)

It's always good to have fans....

Posted by: sven10077 at July 11, 2016 02:56 AM (SzZnW)

443 Pluto Nash
Ishtar
Battlefield Earth
Cutthroat Island
Revolution
Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper at July 11, 2016 02:53 AM (1JnAL)

Leonard 6
Howard the Duck
Buckaroo Banzai

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 02:56 AM (3ZoRf)

444 Jarvis, thanks! Those are all good ideas. I particularly like the idea of trying to get some work as an extra, would give me some on-set experience *and* put a little extra money in my pocket. And who knows what I might observe.

I am in Southern California, actually in what "the industry" calls the TMZ (thirty-mile zone).

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:56 AM (q7T0y)

445 I once saw the remains of a *big* open-frame DC motor at Atlantic steel. Fifty hp, I think. The field had opened up, it ran away, pulverized the concrete pad it was on, finally blew up, destroying the shed in which it was located. Looked like it had been hit with a rpg. Pretty neat.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, author of buggy code at July 11, 2016 02:56 AM (ANVXm)

446 To my shame, I actually paid money in high school to see Cutthroat Island on the big screen...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 02:57 AM (3ZoRf)

447 Jarvis, thanks for the editing software advice too.

I want to go Mac with my next computer, and I already have a little experience with Sony Vegas.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:57 AM (q7T0y)

448 444 cool. tho, it might be harder to get ppl to work for free there..

But you never know, get in a group, and, start looking for any extra work.. even do it for meals if necessary.

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 02:58 AM (R1ejq)

449 The solid state electronics revolution makes a lot of stuff possible now that would've been ridiculously impractical in the old days. Case in point, rectifying AC to drive a PM DC motor.

Another thing is speed control of AC induction motors. Variable frequency drive.

And one thing that blew my mind when I learned of it. Small generators which are actually a 3-phase alternator (synchronous machine) that drives a DC - invertered AC that makes the single phase 120V output. AC - DC - AC.

The electronics to do that are cheap enough now that it actually make sense. A 3-phase generator is the lightest for the power. And that makes speed control no problem. The actual generator frequency can vary crazy wild with load, but the inverter handles that and gives you 60Hz output, regardless of the original frequency.

There was a trick, a "cyclo-converter" that actually really skipped the intermediate DC step, really. It depended on very input AC frequency relative to the regulated output frequency.

At any rate, many of the little generators are actually this design now.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 11, 2016 02:58 AM (DW+jj)

450 Everyone hates Flo.

Everyone.
---
I don't know what the purpose of that commercial where the dude gets slimed by Flo was supposed to be, but it left me not wanting to be a part of anything. Including all the other products that came up during that commercial break.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat at July 11, 2016 02:59 AM (3Liv/)

451 Jarvis, thanks again and true about finding people. I'm probably going to have to go the route of "The Producers" and offer everyone percentages. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 03:00 AM (q7T0y)

452 I HATE Macs.. lol

But at least you aren't using FCP. lol.

I can build an AWESOME edit machine for 1/4 to 1/3rd the cost of a Mac, and the Avid version I use takes Win7, so its not a big PITA with Win10 (yet.. not sure if the latest one supports 10)

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 03:00 AM (R1ejq)

453 425 According to wikipedia, the budget is $144 million. Rotten tomatoes has it at 74%(?!) Metacritic has it lower at 6.6/10.

I am liking reading the newspeak on the wikipedia page under reception. "Praising the new cast while criticizing the editing and pacing."
"Marvelously cast supernatural comedy."

The redlettermedia review could be very interesting.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 02:47 AM (3ZoRf)

Every review I read that Entertainment Weekly llinked to praised the cast but blasted the script, editing and directing. Even blasted the cameos which would be the originals.

Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper at July 11, 2016 03:01 AM (1JnAL)

454 Jarvis, actually in fairness I'm not married to the Mac yet. I'd like to build an editing PC too. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 03:02 AM (q7T0y)

455 411 One of the greatest directors of all time, John Ford, had the reputation of being a screaming asshole boss on the set. He also loved calling his big star/discovery, John Wayne, an idiot who couldn't act.

Ford was also a complete hypocrite. If he overheard a crew member saying anything at all negative about another woman on the set, he'd have them fired. But when on one shoot, Ava Gardner challenged some of his directing decisions, he went nuclear on her with abusiveness and cussing.

It's also been written that between movies, Ford would hole up in his bedroom wearing nothing but a soiled bedsheet, and do nothing but drink from morning to night.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 02:40 AM (q7T0y)

So, Ace.

Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper at July 11, 2016 03:04 AM (1JnAL)

456 That ESAB MigMaster 300i is actually an inverter machine. It has an "idiot mode" input. You select the gas mix, metal thickness, and wire size, and it sets the parameters.

You can put in manual mode, and the parameters you can control are amazing. You even have inductance control. This is done electronically by control of the current waveform, giving the behavior of varying the inductance of the output welding circuit. This controls the rise and fall time of the current in short-arc MIG.

It's also capable of "spray mode", where there is a continuous arc. I don't have the materials to do that.

And you just flip a switch and put in constant current mode for stick welding, and you've got inverter DC output. It's still humpy, not dead constant like that old Westinghouse which is real commutated DC.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 11, 2016 03:04 AM (DW+jj)

457 Well, looks like I managed to annoy AOP and Ashley right outta here tonight so I'm gonna take off before I annoy anyone else out. :-)

Hope all had a great weekend, sorry if I came off as way too sensitive to live, thanks for the fantastic chat (even though I grant I was pissy at times), and hope everyone has a smooth, quick work week.

See you tomorrow night!

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 03:05 AM (q7T0y)

458 446 To my shame, I actually paid money in high school to see Cutthroat Island on the big screen...

My sister, who was home on leave, took her little brother (me, about 14), to go see Ishtar. Paid money for it and everything. Too this day, it is still the only movie I ever walked out on. Worked out ok. We just casually walked over to the other theater and watched Beverly Hills Cop 2.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2016 03:05 AM (nQNVp)

459 Well, shorts wont get any cash, most likely, but you should do a few just to get used to it.

Another thing is join someone elses 24/48 hr production races. Offer to be a PA, or if you can act, do that, (or both on these races)

When you're finally ready to make something thats distributable, you will have to pay at least a few actors, and if you really want it to sell you need a large budget.

Right now we are working on a Dark Comedy about Homeland Security, and are looking for about 1.2m to be able to hire someone of Adam Baldwin's status.

But investors are sketchy with TFG's economy, so maybe they will loosen up if the election goes the right way.

Oh, another thing. you will prob have to pull permits to shoot in public, so watch out for that. or go with a VERY small cast/crew to the site and shoot as fast as you can (Gorilla style!)

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 03:06 AM (R1ejq)

460 364 Sports guy just said some golf chick "grounded the club" by touching the sand in the sand pit before drawing back for the swing..

Thats a thing?? I thought you could touch the ground, grass, sand etc, as long as you didn't touch the ball?

All I really know about it is from Caddyshack tho, so...
Posted by: JarvisW

When you are in a sand trap, it is totally illegal to touch the sand with your club prior to hitting the ball. I know that sounds like a weird rule, but the point behind sand traps is to purposely give your ball a "bad lie" (i.e. be in an awkward situation), and if you start touching the sand with your club, you will be altering the position of your ball, as the sand is motile and shifting. When you do that, it's a violation called "groundskeeping," which is a huge no-no. If you are deemed to have done it accidentally, you will get a one or two-stroke penalty -- but if you are deemed to have done it on purpose, I do believe you can actually be expelled from the tournament.

The same rule holds, actually, when you are in any kind of off-the-fairway rough or "hazard": You can't mess around with the living vegetation or alter the groundscape with your club. The one exception that many casual players will make in this situation is that if there is some dumb little dead stick or disconnected loose branch directly in front of (but not touching) your ball, you are allowed to move it out of the way. Although I suspect that in the PGA they won't even allow that.

The PGA are real sticklers for these rules. Michelle Wie once "dropped the ball" improperly (when your ball is on a non-natural unplayable lie, such as in the middle of the asphalt cart path, you are allowed to drop it over your shoulder just so long as the ball is further away from the hole after it stops moving from your drop). Michelle's ball apparently rolled a bit forward without her realizing, and yet she hit it as normal and continued playing the round. At the end, they reviewed the video and showed the ball was about one inch closer to the hole (400 yards away) than her original lie, and so she was forfeited out of the tournament, lost all her prize money, and wasn't invited to the next one.

Moral: Don't touch your club to the sand in the sand trap!

Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2016 03:07 AM (jBuUi)

461 Difficult decision to make. I've been without a car of my own since June of 2015. I've gotten by borrowing my elderly mother's 2002 Explorer. I was already doing most of the driving for her anyway because her range has become very limited. She doesn't like getting on the freeway and tends to get lost in places she only recently became familiar, such as her Maj Jongg group, which rotates between their homes. Any place in the area she knew ten years ago isn't problem.

Anyway, if I'm ever to hope to hold a full time job again, her car has issues both of reliability and being reliably available. I recently sold off a bunch of stuff and have some cash on hand with no major debts other than the cell phone bill. My credit union will give me $12K at 1.95% over 60 months for a monthly payment around $210. That and the insurance I should be able to handle during work droughts if they aren't too prolonged.

So I'm looking for something three to six years old with low miles. Low cost of operation but with a functional cargo capacity when needed. (Sometimes I'll get an out of town job that means a certain amount of luggage and gear for the task.) My last car was a 2000 Saturn SW2 that filled the role quite well but was utterly disintegrating toward the end and needed repairs far in excess of its value. I don't know of anything like that on the market today and I don't have the skills to keep an older vehicle running inexpensively.

The only thing I've really looked at so far is a Ford Focus, based on my brother's recommendation. He was a mechanic for many years until rheumatoid arthritis forced him to give it up, so his word carries some weight. Still, I don't want to ignore the other choices that might offer a better deal. Right now I'm looking at a 2014 Focus hatchback, 5 speed manual, with 30K (one owner) on it the dealer has on their site for $12900, though they may come down some.

The local AutoNation Ford has a similar 2014 with an automatic, 60K miles, for $2K less. If somebody knows of a comparable make and model that goes for enough less that I can maintain some cash reserves, I'm listening.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 03:08 AM (IdCqF)

462 446 To my shame, I actually paid money in high school to see Cutthroat Island on the big screen...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 02:57 AM (3ZoRf)

I paid money in high school to go see "Galaxy of Terror".

Lucky for me, my gf and I were the only ones in there, so guess who got a bj?!!

Not to many things can beat having a Cherry Coke, popcorn and a bj.

Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper at July 11, 2016 03:08 AM (1JnAL)

463 The electronics to do that are cheap enough now that it actually make sense. A 3-phase generator is the lightest for the power. And that makes speed control no problem. The actual generator frequency can vary crazy wild with load, but the inverter handles that and gives you 60Hz output, regardless of the original frequency.

There was a trick, a "cyclo-converter" that actually really skipped the intermediate DC step, really. It depended on very input AC frequency relative to the regulated output frequency.

At any rate, many of the little generators are actually this design now.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 11, 2016 02:58 AM (DW+jj)

All the best portable generators are now this style. Low load? They run at idle, as demand increases, the inverter senses the need for more power, and opens the throttle.

I have two old Onan generators here. They are 4-pole, single-phase alternators, and run at 1800 RPM, rather than the 3600 RPM needed to get 60 hz from a two-pole alternator. They were state of the art, once upon a time.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 03:08 AM (GSdpU)

464 455 HA! lol

458 I saw Howard The Duck in theater..

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 03:09 AM (R1ejq)

465 Buckaroo Banzai

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 02:56 AM (3ZoRf)

At least Buckaroo Banzai was a good film.

Posted by: John Hat from the 8th Dimension at July 11, 2016 03:09 AM (vBeA5)

466 460 Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2016 03:07 AM (jBuUi)

That's funny the moral I have taken from the PGA and LPGA's liberalism is "strive to destroy golf."

Posted by: sven10077 at July 11, 2016 03:09 AM (SzZnW)

467 Jarvis, thanks again!! Great advice.

Okay, really gotta go. Goodnight.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 11, 2016 03:10 AM (q7T0y)

468 Every review I read that Entertainment Weekly llinked to praised the cast but blasted the script, editing and directing. Even blasted the cameos which would be the originals.
Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper at July 11, 2016 03:01 AM (1JnAL)

Most of the trailers I saw looked like bad takes and horrible dialogue. It looked like one of the SW prequels- decent actors given horrible dialogue and a crappy director who could not wring the best out of anything.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:10 AM (3ZoRf)

469 Lol thanks Zombie!

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 03:11 AM (R1ejq)

470 NP, g'night!

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 03:12 AM (R1ejq)

471 468 Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:10 AM (3ZoRf)

In fairness (hat tip Poppin' Fresh) the GB director was too limp wristed to wring out a shamwow....

are you following me camera guy?

//Vince Offer's bit off nipple

Posted by: sven10077 at July 11, 2016 03:12 AM (SzZnW)

472 I paid money in high school to go see "Galaxy of Terror".

Lucky for me, my gf and I were the only ones in there, so guess who got a bj?!!

Not to many things can beat having a Cherry Coke, popcorn and a bj.
Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper at July 11, 2016 03:08 AM (1JnAL)

Isn't that the Corman flick with the giant, amorous slug?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:14 AM (3ZoRf)

473 OOOH, Fast Orange (hand/tool cleaner) makes a Mechanic strength laundry detergent!

Too bad half my shirts have baked in stains now, but thats good for the future!

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 03:15 AM (R1ejq)

474 #458

I saw Ishtar in the theater. All of it. Though somebody else was paying.

I recently read 'Fiasco: A History of Hollywood's Iconic Flops' by James Robert Parish. Ishtar gets a chapter, as does another Warren Beatty stinker, 'Town and Country.' I just thought it was a bad movie but the book goes into great detail about how insanely off the tracks the production went with nobody willing to take responsibility for saying "No." The baffling part ws that Elaine May was already certified box office poison when allowed to run her own production. She should have been confined to writing and possibly not even that. They wanted to make an homage to the Crosby and Hope Road movies but forgot that those movies were made on the cheap.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 03:15 AM (IdCqF)

475 The local AutoNation Ford has a similar 2014 with an automatic, 60K miles, for $2K less. If somebody knows of a comparable make and model that goes for enough less that I can maintain some cash reserves, I'm listening.
Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 03:08 AM (IdCqF)

Might want to look at Hyundais. They have a 100000 mile warranty on them, and my FIL who used to be the warranty guy at the local Hyundai dealership said that they have been really well built in the last 10 years. He used to be the service manager there when Hyundai first started selling cars and said they were kind of shitty, but that they really build very reliable cars now. Pretty much they are the new Honda.

Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper at July 11, 2016 03:16 AM (1JnAL)

476 Oh, worst bomb ever... Heavens Gate?

I'm not even sure I saw it in Blockbuster!

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 03:16 AM (R1ejq)

477 461 You can get a NEW Nissan Versa for $12K

Posted by: MAx at July 11, 2016 03:18 AM (0uuiT)

478 At least Buckaroo Banzai was a good film.
Posted by: John Hat from the 8th Dimension at July 11, 2016 03:09 AM (vBeA5)

All I remember about Buckaroo Banzai was Peter Weller. A twin sister. Jeff Goldblum in.. chaps? Fuzzy Chaps? and Clancey Brown (the Kurgan.) And the odd perfect Tommy guy- which I did not get because he looked like a bleached blonde surfer dude.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:18 AM (3ZoRf)

479 Yeah, Honda's CAN be great! But some years have auto/trans issues..

So do some research if you go that route.

Some Toyotas are duds too.

But I think Hyundai's are ok too, if its worth the price diff for it at least.

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 03:18 AM (R1ejq)

480 Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2016 03:07 AM (jBuUi)

The reason for not being allowed to ground your club in a hazard isn't because you might move the ball. Anytime you do anything that moves the ball you are penalized. Both of these issues hit Dustin Johnson in majors. He lost a US Open because he grounded his club in some sand - that wasn't a trap - but the officials said it was. And Dustin almost lost the last US Open because his ball moved right before he grounded the club on the green - he won, anyway.

But, it's kind of stupid how the PGA sets up some of these rules. They let people drop their balls (without penalty) if they hit them into any sort of problem - the ridiculous immovable temporary obstruction BS. These guys are professionals. The obstruction is immovable and they know it before they hit the ball.

Also they let people make up shots to say that they are being obstructed by something - say, a sprinkler head - and then get a drop and don't even have to carry out the original shot they claimed they needed relief for. Again, Dustin Johnson in the last Open got relief out of the rough into another fairway (or the first cut of rough) because a TV tower was allegedly in his way. Then he hit his dropped shot directly over the TV tower he had just gotten "relief" from.

It's a lot of BS ... There's far too much dropping and letting pros arrange their balls on the course. It's like playing with a guy who likes to kick his ball into the fairway. If there's a bit of rain they let the pros pick up and clean their balls (and then PLACE the ball back where they want) from the fairways. Makes me sick.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 11, 2016 03:18 AM (zc3Db)

481 -- APF COMMUNIQUE 160714:
Transcomm945l01--ANIMAL_PSYOPS
REPEAT: ANIMAL_PSYOPS IN EFFECT

END.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 11, 2016 03:19 AM (GdFQh)

482 475 yip

Posted by: MAx at July 11, 2016 03:19 AM (0uuiT)

483 #472

Would always watch just that scene when it came along on late night cable.

For a long time I thought the actress was the blonde lizard lady from 'V' but it was somebody else.

Roger Corman's autobiography is something every budding filmmaker should read. If you apply the Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon treatment to all of the big names who started off working for Corman, he is probably tied to more revenue in Hollywood history than any other person.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 03:19 AM (IdCqF)

484
Isn't that the Corman flick with the giant, amorous slug?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:14 AM (3ZoRf)

I think so. It had the chick who played Joanie on Happy Days in it, and I was hoping she was gonna flash some tit, but she didn't.

Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper at July 11, 2016 03:20 AM (1JnAL)

485 There was a standard for the old synchronous generators, of the "small" size. It was called 12-lead. Well, 12-lead was a type that was the most versatile.

IT was three-phase. You had three phase windings, each one split. That was six total coils and with 2-leads coming from each coil, you got your 12 leads.

If each one was 120V, you could wire it for 208Y/120V or 240V delta, and even bring out the middle of one phase for a high leg configuration.

Many of them had a single-phase mode, and that was a trick related to the high leg configuration. Note any two phases add to the negative of the other phase. Add two 120Vs together and parallel with the other 120Vs and you've got the same 120/240V as the other phase.

The power rating would be lower because it wasn't balanced. Some of then would have one phase beefier and you could get the full power single phase.

All that razzle dazzle with the windings is neat. Of course, you need to get your phase sequences straight. In wiring single phase transformers in various 3-phase configurations, I've gotten my phase sequences screwed up in my head.

In one case, coming off the panel, the next available breaker pole for a 3-pole breaker was "C". The proper sequence goes CAB there, but in my mind I went CBA and wired it that way. Luckily, the configuration I was doing didn't cause a short, which you can well do with certain delta configurations, but the voltages were all crazy, and I was scratching my head wondering what was wrong with the system.

Then I realized what I'd done.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 11, 2016 03:20 AM (DW+jj)

486 Buckaroo Banzai had a song by Tommy Shaw, who opened for RUSH one year.

No one cared when he was playing his solo stuff and the soundtrack, but when they killed the lights for his encore and "Oh momma..." Everyone went nuts.

(unlike when the Texas Jam crowd did for Bon Jovi when they played Runaway, we knew that was their last one and would be off the stage soon!)

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 03:21 AM (R1ejq)

487 476:Oh, worst bomb ever... Heavens Gate?

Speaking of which, Michael Cimino died July 2.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2016 03:21 AM (nQNVp)

488 #478

You don't remember John Lithgow as Dr. Emelio Lizardo at all?

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 03:22 AM (IdCqF)

489 >>>Isn't that the Corman flick with the giant, amorous slug? Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:14 AM (3ZoRf)

Wasn't that the slug who had vigourous relations with "Joanie" from "Happy Days"?

I think she had this coming.
-- Karmically speaking, that is.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 11, 2016 03:23 AM (GdFQh)

490 480He lost a US Open because he grounded his club in some sand - that wasn't a trap - but the officials said it was.

It was the PGA Championship. 2010 I think

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2016 03:23 AM (nQNVp)

491 Lol, I'm 2deg of KB from Corman, Lucas, and Joss Weeden.

One degree from Penthouse Pet of the Year Julie Strain too..

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 03:25 AM (R1ejq)

492 So I'm looking for something three to six years old with low miles. Low cost of operation but with a functional cargo capacity when needed. (Sometimes I'll get an out of town job that means a certain amount of luggage and gear for the task.) My last car was a 2000 Saturn SW2 that filled the role quite well but was utterly disintegrating toward the end and needed repairs far in excess of its value. I don't know of anything like that on the market today and I don't have the skills to keep an older vehicle running inexpensively.

The only thing I've really looked at so far is a Ford Focus, based on my brother's recommendation. He was a mechanic for many years until rheumatoid arthritis forced him to give it up, so his word carries some weight. Still, I don't want to ignore the other choices that might offer a better deal. Right now I'm looking at a 2014 Focus hatchback, 5 speed manual, with 30K (one owner) on it the dealer has on their site for $12900, though they may come down some.

The local AutoNation Ford has a similar 2014 with an automatic, 60K miles, for $2K less. If somebody knows of a comparable make and model that goes for enough less that I can maintain some cash reserves, I'm listening.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 03:08 AM (IdCqF)

Gee. I think you are limiting yourself tremendously there. Three to six years old, low miles? You are going to pay a premium price? Darn near any car made after 1990 is going to last to about 300,000 miles if given decent routine service.

What about non-cars? Like pickups, or minivans? If you don't need a massive amount of inside cargo space, a mini-pickup like a Toyota, Nissan or Mazda might be the answer. And the 4-banger with standard transmission is about as simple as it gets, so even if your mechanic skills are substellar, you can get 'er done. Because, room to work!

You are in California, so rust isn't an issue.

Spend no more than $5000 on the car, put another $5000 into a savings account for contingencies.

Right now, here in Alberta, ex-cop car Crown Vics are going for under $2000. For 2008-2011 models. And they still have good miles left in them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 03:25 AM (GSdpU)

493 I can definitely say that if you want a used Ford Explorer, don't get one from the 2002-2994 years. Older are alright and newer seem to have a lot less complaints. Guess which one we have?

Some of you might recall my tale of woe of being stuck in the rain twice when a crank position sensor failed and then again less than three months later. It turns out that using spun sugar as a part of the engine housing didn't work out well in real world conditions.

Transmissions only last about 75K miles. And so on.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 03:25 AM (IdCqF)

494 My tribute to the 'Joanie and the Slugs" meme:

http://tinyurl.com/hrgundl

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 11, 2016 03:28 AM (GdFQh)

495 Yeah, had to do all the sensors in moms Chevy Venture Van. Not even 10 yrs old and they all failed or broke.

Like you said, Spun sugar, and if you drip ANY PS Fluid on them.. OR THE HARNESS!!

Ugh.. PITA

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 03:28 AM (R1ejq)

496 488 #478

You don't remember John Lithgow as Dr. Emelio Lizardo at all?
Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 03:22 AM (IdCqF)

Damn. They looked normal but there was some sort of "They Live" effect where they showed their true form? And was there a Jamaican one?

Jeez I have not seen that movie in a very long time.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:28 AM (3ZoRf)

497 It was the PGA Championship. 2010 I think

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2016 03:23 AM (nQNVp)

Was that it? Sorry. Thanks for the correction.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 11, 2016 03:28 AM (zc3Db)

498 One degree from Penthouse Pet of the Year Julie Strain too..
Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 03:25 AM (R1ejq)

Nice.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:30 AM (3ZoRf)

499 Yeah, she bought me a 6 pack after the shoot every day and we'd hang in her hotel room and watch HBO lol.

She made it clear there was NO FUNNY BIZ, as she had just got married to the Thunderbirds/TMNT producer and wasnt interested in a greasy young kid lol

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 03:32 AM (R1ejq)

500 I looked it up, the trick single phase configuration for the 12-lead generators is known as "zig-zag". It looks like a zig-zag on the diagrams.

There is another little trick known as zig-zag grounding autotransformer configuration. It's a trick to take a 3-wire three-phase and bring out a usable neutral, giving you a 4-wire supply.

Conceptually it's the equivalent of this. Say you've got 2-wire 240V single phase. Put a center-tapped autotransformer across it, and bring out the center. You've got a "neutral". If you analyze the current, you'll see the autotransformer hangles only the imbalance.

The zig-zag grounding system is the 3-phase equivalent of that.

The number of 3-phase tricks there are is fascinating. There used to be 2-phase systems in use, 90 degree phase difference. There was a trick 3 to 2 phase transformer trick, known as the "Scott T" connection. It required a special tap on one transformer.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 11, 2016 03:32 AM (DW+jj)

501 461
Difficult decision to make. I've been without a car of my own since June
of 2015. I've gotten by borrowing my elderly mother's 2002 Explorer. I
was already doing most of the driving for her anyway because her range
has become very limited. She doesn't like getting on the freeway and
tends to get lost in places she only recently became familiar, such as
her Maj Jongg group, which rotates between their homes. Any place in the
area she knew ten years ago isn't problem.

Anyway, if I'm ever
to hope to hold a full time job again, her car has issues both of
reliability and being reliably available. I recently sold off a bunch of
stuff and have some cash on hand with no major debts other than the
cell phone bill. My credit union will give me $12K at 1.95% over 60
months for a monthly payment around $210. That and the insurance I
should be able to handle during work droughts if they aren't too
prolonged.

So I'm looking for something three to six years old
with low miles. Low cost of operation but with a functional cargo
capacity when needed. (Sometimes I'll get an out of town job that means a
certain amount of luggage and gear for the task.) My last car was a
2000 Saturn SW2 that filled the role quite well but was utterly
disintegrating toward the end and needed repairs far in excess of its
value. I don't know of anything like that on the market today and I
don't have the skills to keep an older vehicle running inexpensively.

The
only thing I've really looked at so far is a Ford Focus, based on my
brother's recommendation. He was a mechanic for many years until
rheumatoid arthritis forced him to give it up, so his word carries some
weight. Still, I don't want to ignore the other choices that might offer
a better deal. Right now I'm looking at a 2014 Focus hatchback, 5 speed
manual, with 30K (one owner) on it the dealer has on their site for
$12900, though they may come down some.

The local AutoNation
Ford has a similar 2014 with an automatic, 60K miles, for $2K less. If
somebody knows of a comparable make and model that goes for enough less
that I can maintain some cash reserves, I'm listening.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 03:08 AM (IdCqF)

Do you have Consumer Reports?

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 03:33 AM (EzgxV)

502 Oh, and one day we came in, plopped down, and Naked Gun 33 1/3 was on, and it was just MOMENTS before her scene!!

She grabbed my arm and left marks with her fingernails, and said "THATS ME!!"

Lol been in like 40 films, but still acted like it was her first time to see herself on TV

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 03:34 AM (R1ejq)

503 There were Red Lectroids and Black Lectroids.

The Red Lectroids look like uptight white guys to humans. Think Michael Douglas in 'Falling Down' before he cracks.The Red Lectroid that took over Dr. Lizardo was equated to Hitler in the novelization, which had a lot more backstory. (It also included a picture from the deleted flashback scene where Buckaroos parents are killed in an earlier version of the vehicle he used to go through the mountain early in the movie. Jamie Lee Curtis was his mother.) Because Lizardo is possesed rather than disguised as a human, he looks like John Lithgow to other Lectroids, too.

The Black Lectroids all look and sound like Jamaicans to humans.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 03:35 AM (IdCqF)

504 Damn, I never even heard about a 2015 Peter Pan remake named... Pan.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:35 AM (3ZoRf)

505 Would it be bad to admit I know who Julie Strain is? There was some quote I remember (or don't remember) about her saying something about "showing my pussy". Something like, "Who knew all I had to do was show my pussy?"

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 11, 2016 03:36 AM (DW+jj)

506 John Carter was actually about as well done as you could do an adaptation of the story. I thought it was actually pretty good.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:37 AM (3ZoRf)

507 504 Damn, I never even heard about a 2015 Peter Pan remake named... Pan.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:35 AM (3ZoRf)

It was a flash in the Pan.

Posted by: buzzion at July 11, 2016 03:37 AM (bMG0w)

508 The number of 3-phase tricks there are is fascinating. There used to be 2-phase systems in use, 90 degree phase difference. There was a trick 3 to 2 phase transformer trick, known as the "Scott T" connection. It required a special tap on one transformer.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 11, 2016 03:32 AM (DW+jj)

You are getting way beyond me here. I could hook up a 3-phase motor to the supply and feel pretty confident about it, but phase conversion and all that is more than I need to know. I'm sure if I sat down in a classroom and got trained in it, that I could do it OK. Just have never had the need for it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 03:38 AM (GSdpU)

509 And 13th Warrior was awesome!

(Reading a CBS news thing on box office flops.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:39 AM (3ZoRf)

510 John Carter was actually about as well done as you could do an adaptation of the story. I thought it was actually pretty good.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:37 AM (3ZoRf)

There were two different versions of that made right around the same time, I think. Not my sort of stuff but I remember seeing the second version on some cable channel after I had seen John Carter.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 11, 2016 03:40 AM (zc3Db)

511 lol sounds about right.

She had to ride this lil guy cowgirl, and he got a lil excited.. She said "DUDE!" and he said something like "I dont know what to do with it" or where to put it, something..

She said "Well, its not goin IN ME!!"

In front of the crew etc lol.

(Tho, a small closed set, I wasn't even allowed, so she told me after)

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 03:40 AM (R1ejq)

512 #501

My mother subscribes but asking her to actually find them might produce a result within the year. She gets less and less reliable. Recently, we had a power outage just as it was getting dark. She has a big Maglite but no live batteries for it. Despite being told flat out that I had no batteries of that type, she wandered into my room and felt around where she somehow felt I might keep the batteries. She found a battery powered nose hair trimmer, which is about the size of an index finger, and broke the mechanism off the top for no explicable reason. Later, when I asked her if she knew how it got that way she admitted going on the battery hunt but couldn't explain what compelled her to break the trimmer.

For what it's worth, CR thought the 2002 Explorer was a turkey as a used car purchase. So they get credit from me for that.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 03:41 AM (IdCqF)

513 It was a flash in the Pan.
Posted by: buzzion

I heard critics Panned it!

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 03:41 AM (R1ejq)

514 And what's up with all the remakes and copies of the Planet of the Apes movies? How many Planet of the Apes movies does one planet need? I would think the first 5, or whatever, were enough to last at least a couple of millenia. It's not as if it was a great story to start with.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 11, 2016 03:43 AM (zc3Db)

515 Well, bed time for me. Night, all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2016 03:44 AM (GSdpU)

516 Last Action Hero was another I saw in the theater. Not as bad as some others on the list. An interesting idea, but I think they lost their nerve on lampooning the action hero genre.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:44 AM (3ZoRf)

517 #505

Anybody who was single and under thirty during her time of frequent Penthouse appearances should know who Julie Strain is.

She married one of the two guys who created the Teenage Ninja Mutant Turtles and became absurdly wealthy. What started as a satire of Frank Miller comics has probably earned them ten times Miller's lifetime earnings.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 03:45 AM (IdCqF)

518 508: All you need to know about 3-phase is the square root of three. And a triangle picture in your mind. And do a little simple vector addition of the sides of those triangles at the angle to each other. You can do anything with that.

And don't get cocky. That's all you need to know.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 11, 2016 03:45 AM (DW+jj)

519 514 And what's up with all the remakes and copies of the Planet of the Apes movies? How many Planet of the Apes movies does one planet need? I would think the first 5, or whatever, were enough to last at least a couple of millenia. It's not as if it was a great story to start with.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 11, 2016 03:43 AM (zc3Db)

Cause we have been reliving the 70's. Right down to the crappy movies and Charleton Heston dying.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:46 AM (3ZoRf)

520 516 Last Action Hero was another I saw in the theater. Not as bad as some others on the list. An interesting idea, but I think they lost their nerve on lampooning the action hero genre.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:44 AM (3ZoRf)

Pussies.

Posted by: Deadpool at July 11, 2016 03:47 AM (bMG0w)

521 ohn Carter was actually about as well done as you could do an adaptation of the story. I thought it was actually pretty good.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:37 AM (3ZoRf)

Why they decided to call it "John Carter" rather than "Princess from Mars" is beyond me...

Posted by: The Jasoom Hat at July 11, 2016 03:47 AM (vBeA5)

522 Cause we have been reliving the 70's. Right down to the crappy movies and Charleton Heston dying.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:46 AM (3ZoRf)

Giving Will Smith Heston's role in the Omega Man remake is what did Heston in, I think. That was a crime against humanity.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 11, 2016 03:47 AM (zc3Db)

523 512
#501

My mother subscribes but asking her to actually find them
might produce a result within the year. She gets less and less reliable.
Recently, we had a power outage just as it was getting dark. She has a
big Maglite but no live batteries for it. Despite being told flat out
that I had no batteries of that type, she wandered into my room and felt
around where she somehow felt I might keep the batteries. She found a
battery powered nose hair trimmer, which is about the size of an index
finger, and broke the mechanism off the top for no explicable reason.
Later, when I asked her if she knew how it got that way she admitted
going on the battery hunt but couldn't explain what compelled her to
break the trimmer.

For what it's worth, CR thought the 2002 Explorer was a turkey as a used car purchase. So they get credit from me for that.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 03:41 AM (IdCqF)

I would look at what they recommend by price range and filter by the form-factor you prefer. You might end up with an 8-year-old Subaru Forester that suits your needs better than the 6-year-old Honda SUV you thought you wanted.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 03:50 AM (EzgxV)

524 Cause we have been reliving the 70's. Right down to the crappy movies and Charleton Heston dying.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:46 AM (3ZoRf)

Giving Will Smith Heston's role in the Omega Man remake is what did Heston in, I think. That was a crime against humanity.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 11, 2016 03:47 AM (zc3Db)

Vincent Price did the first adaptation, which was probably closer to the original novel.

Posted by: The Omega Hat at July 11, 2016 03:50 AM (vBeA5)

525 Giving Will Smith Heston's role in the Omega Man remake is what did Heston in, I think. That was a crime against humanity.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 11, 2016 03:47 AM (zc3Db)

I am Legend is a mixed bag for me. Will Smith on one hand. On the other, removing the hippie plague victims. On the other other hand, you replace them with bad CGI monsters.

I did like the sets (or backdrop greenscreen) for post apocalyptic New York.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:52 AM (3ZoRf)

526 Vincent Price did the first adaptation, which was probably closer to the original novel.

Posted by: The Omega Hat at July 11, 2016 03:50 AM (vBeA5)

Yeah ... I saw that. What was it, The Last Man on Earth or something. Not bad. Heston's Omega Man was a big improvement. That was my favorite movie for years.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 11, 2016 03:52 AM (zc3Db)

527 #524

'The Last Man on Earth' was by far the least costly but also the most faithful to the Richard Matheson novel. It didn't commit fully to Price's character realizing he was the bad guy who would forever after haunt the dreams of the new species children but it came closer than the other two.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 03:55 AM (IdCqF)

528 Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:52 AM (3ZoRf)

I could never make it through more than 45 minutes of that movie. Will Smith playing a scientist ... I just couldn't take it seriously.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 11, 2016 03:55 AM (zc3Db)

529 521 John Carter was actually about as well done as you could do an adaptation of the story. I thought it was actually pretty good.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:37 AM (3ZoRf)

Why they decided to call it "John Carter" rather than "Princess from Mars" is beyond me...

I liked it, but my standards are low. Lynn Collins was pretty smokin' in it.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2016 03:55 AM (nQNVp)

530 Will Smith playing a scientist ... I just couldn't take it seriously.

What, "Concussion"?

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 03:56 AM (R1ejq)

531 Wasn't Hollywood all scared about using "Mars" in titles because several other "mars" films were recently flops.

Posted by: Deadpool at July 11, 2016 03:56 AM (bMG0w)

532 522:Giving Will Smith Heston's role in the Omega Man remake is what did Heston in, I think. That was a crime against humanity.

And Omega Man was a remake of The Last Man on Earth starring Vincent Price. :-)

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2016 03:57 AM (nQNVp)

533 What, "Concussion"?

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 03:56 AM (R1ejq)

I've been spared the pain of even knowing about that ... until now. Thanks

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 11, 2016 03:57 AM (zc3Db)

534
528 Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:52 AM (3ZoRf)

I could never make it through more than 45 minutes of that movie. Will Smith playing a scientist ... I just couldn't take it seriously.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 11, 2016 03:55 AM (zc3Db)

Denise Richards. Nuclear physicist in The World is Not Enough.

Posted by: buzzion at July 11, 2016 03:58 AM (bMG0w)

535 'The Last Man on Earth' was by far the least costly but also the most faithful to the Richard Matheson novel. It didn't commit fully to Price's character realizing he was the bad guy who would forever after haunt the dreams of the new species children but it came closer than the other two.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 03:55 AM (IdCqF)

The entire point of the title "I am legeng" was that the main character was the "monster" in the "legend" of the new species kids.

IIRC, they filmed a faithful ending for Smith's movie, but the studio execs though it was a bit of a downer.

Posted by: The Omega Hat at July 11, 2016 03:59 AM (vBeA5)

536 531 Wasn't Hollywood all scared about using "Mars" in titles because several other "mars" films were recently flops.
Posted by: Deadpool at July 11, 2016 03:56 AM (bMG0w)

Red Planet (a not horrific Val Kilmer movie) and Mission to Mars(?) were quite a few years before. Neither was really that good anyway.

Plus, Both of those were straight sci-fi, wheras Burroughs was Space Fantasy (and not even really space. He did not spend much time agonizing over how Carter gets to Mars, IIRC.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:59 AM (3ZoRf)

537 Red Planet (a not horrific Val Kilmer movie) and Mission to Mars(?) were quite a few years before. Neither was really that good anyway.

Plus, Both of those were straight sci-fi, wheras Burroughs was Space Fantasy (and not even really space. He did not spend much time agonizing over how Carter gets to Mars, IIRC.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 03:59 AM (3ZoRf)

Mars Needs Moms.

Posted by: buzzion at July 11, 2016 04:00 AM (bMG0w)

538 Denise Richards. Nuclear physicist in The World is Not Enough.
Posted by: buzzion

When I saw that in the theater, every one bust out laughing when she said that. That particular Bond flick killed off the wrong girl.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2016 04:01 AM (nQNVp)

539 #514

It's the urge to make a guilty pleasure more believable. Back when Jerry Pournelle, who was hard up for work at the time, did the novelization of the third movie (Escape From...) he slipped in a bunch of details that he felt made the premise a bit more functional and made him feel a bit better about the job.

The new movies try valiantly to make the whole thing have some sort of consistent reality, with explanation for the decline of humans and rapid cognitive gain of the apes.

It's a bit silly as the original novel didn't really expect the reader to believe this stuff. It was a vehicle for a satire of mid-20th Century society. The ape civilization was roughly equivalent to the period when Pierre Boulle (yes, that Pierre Boulle) was writing. This included a visit to a stock market trading floor that had swings and trapezes to allow traders to quickly cross the room to cut deals.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 04:01 AM (IdCqF)

540 Denise Richards. Nuclear physicist in The World is Not Enough.

Posted by: buzzion at July 11, 2016 03:58 AM (bMG0w)

I have no problem with Denise Richards playing any role she wants.

Now, Elizabeth Shue playing the physicist/chemist in The Saint, touting the cold fusion and whatever ... that was semi-painful. But she was just hot enough to pull it off. That was one silly, silly movie ... but a real guilty pleasure.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 11, 2016 04:01 AM (zc3Db)

541 if there's gonna be a test on all this electrical shit, i'm outta here.

anyone wanna talk guns?

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 04:02 AM (7XWyA)

542 Re: "Concussion" Lol yeah, i knew it would bomb too..

Showing trailers for a movie that panned the NFL, DURING NFL GAMES, is really how to hit your target audience!

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 04:02 AM (R1ejq)

543 This included a visit to a stock market trading floor that had swings and trapezes to allow traders to quickly cross the room to cut deals.

Works for us!

Posted by: The Flying Muldoon Sisters ... at July 11, 2016 04:04 AM (AoK0a)

544 LOL

#BlackLivesMatter protesters have surrounded the famous "Randy's Donuts" in Inglewood...

https://twitter.com/SapienAgenda/status/752411956892532736

Posted by: The Donut Hat at July 11, 2016 04:05 AM (vBeA5)

545 John Carter was more the spiritual successor to the first Star Wars than Episode 7 was. Buckles were swashed.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 11, 2016 04:05 AM (VdICR)

546 #535

It also fulfills a trivia lists in which the title of the book or movie appears in the dialogue or narrative. The last line of the book is "I am legend."

Penn Gillette wrote an article a long time ago about a group he was in who would go to bad movies with a script of their own. Each time a certain event took place the group would utter a designated line. If a character spoke the title of the movie, everybody would say "Wow."

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 04:06 AM (IdCqF)

547 Thanksgiving Dinner
- featruing -
Vincent Price

with special guests:
- Jimmy Carter of Mars
- Charo 4.01
- Flaming Carrot
- Hans Gruber, Jr.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 11, 2016 04:06 AM (GdFQh)

548 It is amazing how many Flops/bad movies Bruce Willis has been in. It is like he has the reverse touch of Tom Cruise, who seems to have an uncanny feel for good projects, even if they are not box office gold.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 04:07 AM (3ZoRf)

549 538 Denise Richards. Nuclear physicist in The World is Not Enough. Posted by: buzzion
When I saw that in the theater, every one bust out laughing when she said that. That particular Bond flick killed off the wrong girl. Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2016 04:01 AM (nQNVp)

The test audiences for Starship Troopers said "You killed the wrong girl."

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 11, 2016 04:07 AM (VdICR)

550 It is like he has the reverse touch of Tom Cruise, who seems to have an uncanny feel for good projects, even if they are not box office gold.

More creative control when you run the production company ... but yes.

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 11, 2016 04:08 AM (AoK0a)

551 The new movies try valiantly to make the whole thing have some sort of consistent reality, with explanation for the decline of humans and rapid cognitive gain of the apes.

Sure, but they don't much of a good job at that - at least what I remember from the ones I saw. I can't even keep them all straight, now. I was just amazed after I saw the first "remake" of the ascent movie (after they had already done that Tim Whatshisface version of the original original one) all of a sudden another one about the same was on TV. I watched a bit of it but just couldn't get into it.

It's a bit silly as the original novel didn't really expect the reader to believe this stuff. It was a vehicle for a satire of mid-20th Century society. The ape civilization was roughly equivalent to the period when Pierre Boulle (yes, that Pierre Boulle) was writing. This included a visit to a stock market trading floor that had swings and trapezes to allow traders to quickly cross the room to cut deals.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 04:01 AM (IdCqF)

Yep. This is true for a lot of stories. It's clear that they were written about very specific periods and events but then the producers/writers/whoever get all full of themselves and try to pretend that they were just starting some major saga all along ... and nothing ever makes much sense or is consistent in any way. Every so often they can get away with that if the following movies are good enough to stand on their own, but usually they just fall flat. Like someone trying to pretend that a 2-d stick figure was really a complicated sculpture.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 11, 2016 04:10 AM (zc3Db)

552 The test audiences for Starship Troopers said "You killed the wrong girl."
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 11, 2016 04:07 AM (VdICR)

Isn't that the truth.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 04:11 AM (3ZoRf)

553 Like Highlander 2

ALIENS?!?

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 04:12 AM (R1ejq)

554 There can be only one.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 11, 2016 04:13 AM (GdFQh)

555 The test audiences for Starship Troopers said "You killed the wrong girl."
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 11, 2016 04:07 AM (VdICR)

Isn't that the truth.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 04:11 AM (3ZoRf)

They showed the wrong girl in the shower, is what the problem was.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 11, 2016 04:14 AM (zc3Db)

556 553 Like Highlander 2

ALIENS?!?
Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 04:12 AM (R1ejq)

Yeah. At least Connery said "Fuck That' to appearing in any more of the sequels. And that was idiotic. You go to the trouble of resurrecting the character, then kill him five mins later. To a fan. Wha? Almost as iconic as 'A bridge fell on him.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 04:15 AM (3ZoRf)

557 My old boss fashioned himself a 'Dragonryder' warrior on AOL forums. In reality, he wore a nasal strip, Member's Only jacket and a fanny pack.
He swung his sword around the corner office.

It was messed up.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 11, 2016 04:17 AM (GdFQh)

558 Oh, that reminds me of a blast from the past: Dragonslayer. Peter MacNichol?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 04:20 AM (3ZoRf)

559 That wasn't too bad.

But KRULL! ?? lol

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 04:24 AM (R1ejq)

560 559 That wasn't too bad.

But KRULL! ?? lol
Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 04:24 AM (R1ejq)

Hey, when I was 8 that spinning knife thing looked really cool. And then they only used it, what twice? Then switched to him just hurling fire around?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 04:26 AM (3ZoRf)

561 The New Years Eve attacks on women by "migrants" is worse than you think:

Leaked document says 2,000 men allegedly assaulted 1,200 German women on New Year's Eve

http://wapo.st/29s69Pj

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 11, 2016 04:27 AM (vBeA5)

562 561 The New Years Eve attacks on women by "migrants" is worse than you think:

Leaked document says 2,000 men allegedly assaulted 1,200 German women on New Year's Eve

http://wapo.st/29s69Pj
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 11, 2016 04:27 AM (vBeA5)

Hey, nothing a few bracelets will not fix!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 04:28 AM (3ZoRf)

563 They couldn't kill the Denise Richards character in 'Starship Troopers' because she was indestructible. Consider the final scene. Just a few minutes earlier she was stabbed all the through the shoulder but exits the cave with her friends looking very cheerful and healthy. Not being carried as you'd expect of someone who recently lost a lot of blood.

She probably didn't even need the escape pod to survive re-entry to the planet's atmosphere. Just a few days to heal up and she'd be fine, though spectacularly naked and none of her clothing would survive the trip.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 04:29 AM (IdCqF)

564 544

Don't get between cops and their donuts.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 11, 2016 04:29 AM (FtrY1)

565 Almost as iconic as 'A bridge fell on him.'
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That was a joke. He died on a bridge. Because he's a captain.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat at July 11, 2016 04:30 AM (3Liv/)

566 'It Follows' - my angel and I saw that one in the theater. We needed a quiet place to drink and neck.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 11, 2016 04:32 AM (Fpk4O)

567 The one good thing about Krull was the arcade machine. Terribly simplistic by the standards of just a few years later but I played it a fair amount at the Castle Park in Sherman Oaks back then.

Quite a ways from home but they had machines there that were fairly rare. In some case the only units I ever saw anywhere.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 04:34 AM (IdCqF)

568 561
The New Years Eve attacks on women by "migrants" is worse than you think:

Leaked document says 2,000 men allegedly assaulted 1,200 German women on New Year's Eve

http://wapo.st/29s69Pj

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 11, 2016 04:27 AM (vBeA5)

You have no idea what I think about political elites actively recruiting rapists from scum-of-the-earth hellholes to torment the citizens they purportedly represent.....

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 04:35 AM (EzgxV)

569 Lynn Collins

http://celebritynudecentury.blogspot.com/search?q=Lynn+Collins

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 04:37 AM (7XWyA)

570 In that picture I keep expecting a tumbleweed to blow across.
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2016 04:38 AM (Yo9Lf)

571 Night all.

Here is "Black Blade" by Blue Öyster Cult:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntvjRpGPClk

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 11, 2016 04:39 AM (vBeA5)

572 no returns there for Julie Strain

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 04:39 AM (7XWyA)

573 Ok, when people are saying good morning. Time to go to bed. Have a good morning all.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2016 04:40 AM (3ZoRf)

574 You have no idea what I think about political elites actively recruiting
rapists from scum-of-the-earth hellholes to torment the citizens they
purportedly represent.....
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i was Mech Infantry and Armored Cav... 1 guess what i think about it.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 04:41 AM (7XWyA)

575 #BlackLivesMatter protesters have surrounded the famous "Randy's Donuts" in Inglewood...

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that's pure terrorism...

Off with their heads!

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 04:42 AM (7XWyA)

576 *wanders in from writing*

The Val Kilmer Mars movie. Sure your spaceship is trashed so the mission commander, Moss, sends the engineer, Val, down to the planet where he and everyone else gets hunted by a recycled DPD bomb robot.

Gary Sinese in Mission to Mars could have been cool. But it fell flat in so many little ways while trying to meld bits of Close Encounters with 2001 and I still think the Martian spaceship at the end was the Jedi symbol.

But we could always try and watch Robinson Crusoe on Mars again. Or Frankenstein versus the Martians... or was that Mars Needs Women?

*thud*

I think its time for sleep.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2016 04:45 AM (AZagi)

577 Santa Clause VS The Martians..

W/O MST3K if you're REALLY Brave!

Posted by: JarvisW at July 11, 2016 04:47 AM (R1ejq)

578 Nobody's made a movie about Planet Claire yet ...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 11, 2016 04:47 AM (AoK0a)

579 Denise Richards

http://celebritynudecentury.blogspot.com/search?q=Denise+Richards

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 04:47 AM (7XWyA)

580 what Hollyweird needs to do is release all the Doc Savage books over a few summers...

except they would likely make his character a transitioning pajama boi or hermaphrodite.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 04:50 AM (7XWyA)

581 I thought they did a Dolph Lundren Doc Savage once ...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 11, 2016 04:51 AM (AoK0a)

582 pre hermaphrodite, a' course ...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 11, 2016 04:51 AM (AoK0a)

583 naw, he's just a regular savage...

;-)

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 11, 2016 04:52 AM (7XWyA)

584 oh thtop it ...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 11, 2016 04:56 AM (AoK0a)

585 Good Morning Everyone.

What did he say this time?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 11, 2016 05:03 AM (WVsWD)

586 When I think about the ways I wasted my youth, one that comes to mind is the number of movies I watched that eventually turned up on MST3K. Some multiple times. The time would have been better applied just opening an old encyclopedia to a random page and reading from the first article beginning I found.

Which reminds me of a thing I once heard: The definition of a dullard is somebody who opens an encyclopedia to a specific item, finds what he needed, and closes the volume to put it back on the shelf.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 05:04 AM (IdCqF)

587 Well, while we wait for a better Mars movie, we can enjoy Mars the Musical ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0bcRCCg01I

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 11, 2016 05:05 AM (AoK0a)

588 They should a do an unrated version of Farmer's Tarzan vs. Doc Savage porn novel, 'A Feast Unknown.'

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 05:06 AM (IdCqF)

589 Nothing, and he swears he'll never say it again.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 11, 2016 05:15 AM (Fpk4O)

590 oy.

Roses are pink,
& sometimes they're white,
See you on the flip side,
but for now, Good Night ...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 11, 2016 05:18 AM (AoK0a)

591 589
Nothing, and he swears he'll never say it again.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 11, 2016 05:15 AM (Fpk4O)

When are you likely to try last night's "fun facts about steam trains" with your son? (....and he's your son -- if "never", just let me know).

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 05:19 AM (EzgxV)

592 Not a chance. I'm sure he said something that made somebody mad. He always does.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 11, 2016 05:19 AM (WVsWD)

593 Cooth - we've got a weekend of geekery ahead - he's far too busy during the week. But, yeah, bookmarked the convo.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 11, 2016 05:26 AM (Fpk4O)

594 Computer question for anyone. If you are maxed out on RAM, does mounting a thumb drive to act as RAM have any effect?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 11, 2016 05:28 AM (WVsWD)

595 He's been with his grandparents, up in Louisiana these past two weeks. They always spoil the shit outta him and the girls, as is their right and duty.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 11, 2016 05:29 AM (Fpk4O)

596 593
Cooth - we've got a weekend of geekery ahead - he's far too busy during the week. But, yeah, bookmarked the convo.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 11, 2016 05:26 AM (Fpk4O)

Let me know how it goes -- if it delights him and helps you two bond, I may be able to find more on many related subjects. If it goes nowhere, you'll get nothing but my future well-wishes.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 05:31 AM (EzgxV)

597 594
Computer question for anyone. If you are maxed out on RAM, does mounting a thumb drive to act as RAM have any effect?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 11, 2016 05:28 AM (WVsWD)

(1) What OS are we talking?

(2) Generally no....but you can often cache to SSD.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 05:32 AM (EzgxV)

598 Cooth - it'll be great. No doubt.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 11, 2016 05:33 AM (Fpk4O)

599 595
He's been with his grandparents, up in Louisiana these past two weeks.
They always spoil the shit outta him and the girls, as is their right
and duty.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 11, 2016 05:29 AM (Fpk4O)

My gramps ran commercial radio and television broadcast stations as Chief Engineer with an 8th grade education.....geekery both broad and deep....

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 05:34 AM (EzgxV)

600
Gary Sinese in Mission to Mars could have been cool. But it fell flat in so many little ways while trying to meld bits of Close Encounters with 2001 and I still think the Martian spaceship at the end was the Jedi symbol.

I envy you that you can recall as much as that, it was so boring. All I remember is a dinner party in the beginning, Gary Sinise smiling a lot and those weird eyes of his, and then some 2001 type wonderments for him at the end.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 11, 2016 05:35 AM (gxcgC)

601 It's Win 10. So probably not.

Next option then is creating a virtual drive. Hopefully there is a tutorial somewhere that is understandable.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 11, 2016 05:38 AM (WVsWD)

602 594
Computer question for anyone. If you are maxed out on RAM, does mounting a thumb drive to act as RAM have any effect?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 11, 2016 05:28 AM (WVsWD)

No, not with Windows. However there are two ways you can up the RAM more. One replace the existing RAM cards with ones of larger size if you can find compatible ones, or two get a video card that has extra RAM on it if you can find one compatible with the motherboard you have. The computer will recognize and use video card RAM.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 11, 2016 05:40 AM (mpXpK)

603 Cooth - this set of g'parents - his Pappas is a self-taught hydraulic engineer who works out in the oil patches and what not. The little guy gets to hang around the shop and learn how things get made, and why. Boy loves him some machinery......and Mexican girls......gonna be a handful.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 11, 2016 05:41 AM (Fpk4O)

604 601
It's Win 10. So probably not.

Next option then is creating a virtual drive. Hopefully there is a tutorial somewhere that is understandable.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 11, 2016 05:38 AM (WVsWD)

If it's Win10, save yourself further trouble and kill it with fire. Slap Mint on it and don't look back. I just overwrote a Win10 laptop with Ubuntu (if you try to boot off an alternate device, and all the devices insist on being UEFI -- Ubuntu bought a UEFI key, so a Ubuntu CDROM will work). I will never sign on to the Win10 user license.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 05:43 AM (EzgxV)

605 575 Randy's must take EBT now

Posted by: MAx at July 11, 2016 05:45 AM (0uuiT)

606 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 11, 2016 05:40 AM (mpXpK)

It's a laptop. Already maxed out on RAM. Would need a new motherboard for anything else.

Cheaper to buy a new one than replace any hardware.

Looking for ways that will make working on a very large file easier.

Keep trying.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 11, 2016 05:45 AM (WVsWD)

607 However one other question to ask is why do you need so much RAM? If you already have a lot of RAM adding more will probably not improve the performance of your computer by any visible amount.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 11, 2016 05:48 AM (mpXpK)

608
Windows has Ready Boost which uses flash drive memory as RAM.
Not sure what you guys are thinking about

Posted by: MAx at July 11, 2016 05:49 AM (0uuiT)

609 608

Windows has Ready Boost which uses flash drive memory as RAM.
Not sure what you guys are thinking about

Posted by: MAx at July 11, 2016 05:49 AM (0uuiT)

I don't recall ever seeing that program. But I am still using XP.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 11, 2016 05:51 AM (mpXpK)

610 608 up to 4 GB additional RAM

Posted by: MAx at July 11, 2016 05:52 AM (0uuiT)

611 603
Cooth - this set of g'parents - his Pappas is a self-taught hydraulic
engineer who works out in the oil patches and what not. The little guy
gets to hang around the shop and learn how things get made, and why. Boy
loves him some machinery......and Mexican girls......gonna be a
handful.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 11, 2016 05:41 AM (Fpk4O)

Sounds like the right kind of handful. If he gets the right kind of learning and skips the indoctrination he'll have quite a life ahead of him. I hope he likes last night's info and runs with it.

Our #1 godson is probably on the autistic spectrum -- he's got his quirks, anyway. When he was about six, we took him out for pizza and he started talking-up the cashier. It's now a dozen years later and we took him to Maker Faire in May and he was counting redheads in between wanting to blow things up and pick locks. We're pretty sure he's going to blaze a trail.....somewhere......

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 05:53 AM (EzgxV)

612 610 ready boost works on XP. Read up on it-

Posted by: MAx at July 11, 2016 05:54 AM (0uuiT)

613 Posted by: MAx at July 11, 2016 05:52 AM (0uuiT)

That's the question.

Even if your comp has maxed out on internal RAM?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 11, 2016 05:55 AM (WVsWD)

614 #594

Presumably this is for ReadyBoost under Windows. The answer is simply no. ReadyBoost was a stopgap measure to deal with the resource demands of Windows Vista. At the time it was considered a big jump but those specs are absurdly low now. Unless you're running hardware that was getting old in 2007, the maximum RAM capacity should make ReadyBoost a moot point.

Since then, a few things have happened. The typical low end machine has far more and much faster RAM. Also, Microsoft made improvement that let Windows 7 function much better than Vista in low RAM systems. This was aimed at the Netbook market that quickly faded away as tablets hit the market and the entry level price for a decent system dropped a lot. Netbooks just stopped making sense.

Presumably, using USB 3.1, a USB 3.1 native flash drive (none are on the market yet) and a big enough load, ReadyBoost might be able to have an effect but it is hard to imagine that combination of factors and not simply spending the money for more RAM. Most machines with native USB 3.1 support also support DDR4, which lets you put really huge amounts of RAM in a system. The spec allows for up to 512GB per DIMM slot, though it isn't currently possible to build such a DIMM. The current high capacity leader I've heard tell of is 128GB, allowing for a 512GB system using all four slots.

A more likely application, is Intel's Xpoint or Optane non-volatile memory product that is supposed to be hugely faster and denser than flash. They've been talking about this for a few years but last I looked there wasn't a price or a ship date for product. What they have said is that the initial product will be in the form of DIMMs, so you'd have a system with, say, 32GB of RAM using two slots, and a terabyte of Optane in the other two slots, mapped as slower non-volatile RAM. This gets weirdly nostalgic for the days when a small computer might boot from a ROM that copied most of itself into RAM to run as fast as possible.

How this is going to be applied in personal machines like desktop systems is still being figured out by OS designers but for big systems the application is a lot more obvious, such as monster transactional databases where any power interruption is disastrous, so the shift to having the database reside in non-volatile but faster than everything but RAM is a slam dunk.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 05:55 AM (IdCqF)

615
613 Ready Boost/ flash drive RAM is in addition to your (internal) physical RAM chips
You'll like it and a 4GB flashdrive is about $5 now.
Really should be used with every Windows machine

Posted by: MAx at July 11, 2016 05:57 AM (0uuiT)

616 597
594

Computer question for anyone. If you are maxed out on RAM, does mounting a thumb drive to act as RAM have any effect?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 11, 2016 05:28 AM (WVsWD)

(1) What OS are we talking?

(2) Generally no....but you can often cache to SSD.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 05:32 AM (EzgxV)

*****************************************

608

Windows has Ready Boost which uses flash drive memory as RAM.
Not sure what you guys are thinking about

Posted by: MAx at July 11, 2016 05:49 AM (0uuiT)

ReadyBoost is a real thing, but depends on your thumbdrive having performance between your memory and your HD. If your hard disks perform at 90% the speed of your USB drives, you won't see a lot of gain. If your thumbdrive is 3x as fast as your disks, it will be a solid gain (but this is unlikely).

Posted by: cthulhu at July 11, 2016 05:58 AM (EzgxV)

617 Good Morning Morons. Today is Monday, July 11, 2016. On this day in 1804 the infamous duel occurred in which the Aaron Burr mortally wounded former Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton. At that time dueling was illegal but Burr managed to get the charges dropped. Burr was later charged with treason for his escapades on the frontier for which the evidence says he was guilty. But thanks to the efforts of John Marshall, an Adams appointee, and one piece of faulty evidence he got off. At the time Adams hated Jefferson. I guess would be Burr was the "Clinton" of his time.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 11, 2016 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

618 Liberals are speculating that police "may" have to change their tactics against protestors and become more aggressive. They claim that police have become more passive after liberals criticized Ferguson police for being too aggressive. I think they are full of shit. Not every police force in the country listen to the BS spewed by the liberal Democrats in the MFM, especially about the lies spread by the MFM about Ferguson. Ferguson police, if they backed off at all, did it because of illegal pressure and lawfare from Obama's corrupt DOJ. Holder should have been impeached long before he skulked out of DC.

http://tinyurl.com/hnoewx5

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 11, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

619 A black woman who was protected by police at the Dallas shooting praises police officers. So why was she at this protest event? Because she believed all the lies about the police shootings in MN and LA. The MFM is the true enemy.

http://tinyurl.com/h9omaej

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 11, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

620 #612

No, doesn't. It was introduced in Vista and is part of a big chunk of code that was replaced in XP or simply didn't exist, depending on the specific function. A lot of stuff needed to be reworked to take proper advantage of newer CPUs and get rid of some old cruft, so various new things were introduced at the same time rather than backporting to XP.

It took a good while for drivers and other stuff to catch up, which is why a lot of early Vista machine didn't perform well. (There were a lot of OEMs shipping machines with insanely inadequate RAM when XP first appeared as well.) If you ran a pure Intel machine with adequate RAM, it was alright but that accounted for only a subset of the market.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 11, 2016 06:01 AM (IdCqF)

621 TX governor is suffering 2nd and 3rd degree burns on his legs from a scalding accident and may not be able to attend the GOP convention.

http://tinyurl.com/j5j6dyk

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 11, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

622 OK, which one of you MA Morons did this mermaid sand sculpture?

http://tinyurl.com/zvvcr5n

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 11, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

623
Epo if you're gonna spend $12K get a new car. Trust me on this.
Are you in socali???

Posted by: MAx at July 11, 2016 06:02 AM (0uuiT)

624 Bin Laden's son is now making threats against the US.

http://tinyurl.com/jeqp28l