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Overnight Open Thread (7-3-2016) - Pre-4th Edition

Quote of the Day I

We can be overwhelmed by the present. At the time I thought Bill Clinton was an extraordinarily bad man, but Barack Obama has helped me understand how good we had it with Bill Clinton. Not to say that Clinton isn't the most repugnant, but we now have a larger context within which to judge him. Perhaps Hillary Clinton will lend a similar context to our judgment of Obama. Ah, the uses of history.

-- PowerLine's Scott Johnson in Why Not The Worst

Quote of the Day II

They went to Arnold [Schwarzenegger]. They went to Sly, who turned it down. They went to Richard Gere-turned it down. They went to James Caan-turned it down. They went to Burt Reynolds, and all of these people rejected it because, remember, this is 1987. You had all these Rambo movies. We've had Commando, Predator, and in the wake of all of these, the hero, they said, was like a pussy. The reaction? "This guy's no hero." Right? In desperation, they went to Bruce Willis.

-- from Die Hard: An Oral History

Soon.

BBQ in the summer

Correcting History

An in depth investigation by the Marine Corps has concluded that for over 70 years it had wrongly identified one of the men in the iconic photo of the flag being raised over Iwo Jima. The investigation determined that Navy Corpsman John Bradley was not one of the flag-raisers in the photograph and in fact the actual flag-raiser was PFC Harold Schultz.

Neither man seems to have sought any fame or reward from their role in the photo:

As for John Bradley, he also had no taste for celebrity and was long traumatized by what he witnessed on Iwo.  But he also understood the military, and when directed to take part in the bond drive, the young Corpsman obeyed his orders.  Yet, he also moved to quickly distance himself from the fame accorded to the flag-raisers.  After leaving the Navy, Bradley became a successful funeral director in his home state of Wisconsin, fathered a large family and became a pillar of the community. 

While acknowledging his service in World War II--and participation in the flag-raising -- Bradley refused to provide any details.  As recounted in Flags of Our Fathers, John Bradley struggled with the demons of war, weeping in his sleep for many years, and rejecting all media requests for interviews.  Even members of his family knew only the barest details of time in battle.  After Bradley's death in 1994, his widow and children found a Navy Cross in a shoebox in his closet.  John Bradley received the Navy's second highest award for valor on Iwo (for braving withering enemy fire to treat wounded Marines) and never told anyone about it, even his wife of 50 years. 

Likewise, Harold Schultz did his best to bury the past and move on.  Wounded in battle, he returned to the U.S. to recuperate and was discharged from the Marine Corps in the fall of 1945.  He spent the rest of his career working for the Post Office in southern California, living a quiet and humble existence.  Schultz didn't marry until he was 60 and only mentioned the flag-raising once, over the supper table with his wife and step-daughter in 1992.  When his daughter exclaimed "My gosh, Harold, you're a hero," he said "No, I was a Marine."  It was the last time he mentioned the event, although a copy of the Rosenthal photo was among his belongings when Schultz died in 1995.

iwoflagraise1

The Kremlin Admits Snowden is a Russian Agent

The real question is whether he was already working for them when he was stealing classified files or if that was an after-thought.

The TSA Beats a Sick Kid

Hannah Cohen has an inoperable brain tumor and for 17 years has been regularly visiting St. Jude's Children's Hospital in Memphis for regular treatments. But apparently this time she did not comply with a TSA employee's orders fast enough so she got roughed up, arrested, and put in jail. We're all safer now for their quick action.

"They wanted to do further scanning, she was reluctant, she didn't understand what they were about to do," said her mother Shirley Cohen.

Cohen told us she tried to tell TSA agents her daughter is partially deaf, blind in one eye, paralyzed, and easily confused, but said she was kept at a distance by police.

"She's trying to get away from them but in the next instant, one of them had her down on the ground and hit her head on the floor. There was blood everywhere," said Cohen.

Hannah was arrested, booked and on the night she should have been celebrating the end of her treatment, she was locked up in Jail East.

Hannah-Cohen-beaten-by-TSA

RIP Elie Wiesel, 1928 - 2016

More here.

wieselquite2

MD Governor: State House Saved by 'Ben Franklin' Lightning Rod

It somehow feels fitting for 4th of July weekend that the oldest State House in the nation was hit by lightning but saved by a 208-year-old original Ben Franklin lightning rod.

The rod atop the State House was constructed and grounded to Franklin's exact specifications and the use of it was, in some respects, a political statement, expressing support for Franklin's theories on the protection of public buildings from lightning and the rejection of opposing theories supported by King George III. At the time, the pointed lightning rod atop such an important new public building was a powerful symbol of the independence and ingenuity of our young nation.

Ben Franklin was a modern renaissance man and the US was blessed to have a man like him at the founding.

mdstatehouserod

Microsoft Prepares One Final, Full-Screen Get Windows 10 Nag

Optical Illusion of the Year

Weekly Commenter Standings

Top 10 commenters:
1 [453 comments] 'J.J. Sefton' [63.60 posts/day]
2 [411 comments] 'Jay Guevara'
3 [393 comments] 'Jane D'oh'
4 [390 comments] 'ThunderB'
5 [325 comments] 'iforgot'
6 [325 comments] 'Bruce With a Wang!'
7 [318 comments] 'Vic  We Have No Party'
8 [307 comments] 'Nevergiveup'
9 [301 comments] 'Insomniac'
10 [294 comments] 'Skip'

Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [75 names] 'Secretary of State Lurch Kerry' [10.53 unique names/day]
2 [48 names] 'The Political Hat'
3 [40 names] 'andycanuck'
4 [36 names] 'That guy who always says...'
5 [33 names] 'Cicero (@cicero)'
6 [32 names] 'TeamRawDog'
7 [31 names] 'Bertram Cabot Jr.'
8 [28 names] 'Insomniac'
9 [24 names] 'f'd'
10 [23 names] 'josephistan'

The group. Banned on 12 universities.

Where it's at - the Twitter

Tonight's post brought to you by the politics of religion:

politcsofreligion1

Notice: Posted by permission of AceCorp-Thatherton LLC. Taste the heat, not the meat.

Posted by: Maetenloch at 10:34 PM




Comments

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1 First!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 03, 2016 10:35 PM (6gk0M)

2 G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!

*click!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 03, 2016 10:36 PM (6gk0M)

3 Howdy, y'all!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at July 03, 2016 10:36 PM (EzgxV)

4 As long as no one's going to claim it. Fourth!

Posted by: AD at July 03, 2016 10:39 PM (XHWYb)

5 Howdy....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill.....TEXIT at July 03, 2016 10:39 PM (9ym/8)

6 Throwing darts at a picture of a TSA goon...

Posted by: Toastrider at July 03, 2016 10:41 PM (OTkvm)

7 Howdy ONT!

Posted by: Sixkiller at July 03, 2016 10:42 PM (yxupc)

8 Hola all.

Posted by: Blano at July 03, 2016 10:42 PM (heN73)

9 Oh poo

Posted by: Ghost of hallelujah at July 03, 2016 10:43 PM (ljGrj)

10 We should get the hash of the sockpuppeters, 'cause we might know them as different nics during different parts of the day....

Posted by: cthulhu at July 03, 2016 10:44 PM (EzgxV)

11 Here is the "News of the Week" compilation of the news.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=12101

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 03, 2016 10:45 PM (vBeA5)

12 From previous thread:

"Ricardo - You're killing me here. The only reason someone can't come is lack of effort. "


Never know. Dad with his medical state. Family with work schedules. May be fine. May have to haul ass out at 3AM to take care of things. I'd love to commit, but....



:[

Posted by: Ricardo Kill.....TEXIT at July 03, 2016 10:47 PM (9ym/8)

13 Should a person teeth structure decide their fate?

Posted by: eleven at July 03, 2016 10:47 PM (qUNWi)

14 Persons.

Posted by: eleven at July 03, 2016 10:47 PM (qUNWi)

15 Here at my parish in SC, the GOP is way over the Dems.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 03, 2016 10:49 PM (1ijHg)

16
I'm in the market for a new computer. What is so bad about Windows 10?

Posted by: Jamali Breckmister at July 03, 2016 10:49 PM (zySRA)

17 My uncle was a Marine in the Pacific theatre. He always said "The heroes were the ones that didn't come home."


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 03, 2016 10:51 PM (1ijHg)

18 I have no idea what that belief structure is.

Posted by: eleven at July 03, 2016 10:51 PM (qUNWi)

19 I upgraded one of the computers to win 10.

It's OK, except it occasionally shuts itself off.

Spontaneously.

What fun!

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 03, 2016 10:52 PM (1ijHg)

20 "person's"


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 03, 2016 10:53 PM (1ijHg)

21 fate? Do you not have free will?

Do the fates decide your life?


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 03, 2016 10:54 PM (1ijHg)

22 Yes...Win 10 does spontaneously shut itself off.

It also does other spontaneous things.

Posted by: eleven at July 03, 2016 10:54 PM (qUNWi)

23 70% of atheists are Democrats. You don't say.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 03, 2016 10:54 PM (MNgU2)

24 Regarding the voting patterns by religion, I hang my head in shame.
PS, what's the difference between Episcopal and Anglican? I thought they were interchangeable names for Americans who follow "Church of England".

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 03, 2016 10:54 PM (+lVUW)

25 Wow. Kinda early for me to be talking to myself.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 03, 2016 10:54 PM (1ijHg)

26 Looking at that religion chart, I guess we're pretty much doomed.

Posted by: rickl at July 03, 2016 10:54 PM (sdi6R)

27 Ricardo- I completely understand but would be great if you could be there. Just remember you will be there in spirit if not in person. OH shit, are we liveblogging the CenTex strategic planning?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 03, 2016 10:54 PM (OQqKV)

28 Wow I made the list. What a sense of accomplishment I am feeling right now.

Posted by: f'd at July 03, 2016 10:55 PM (BO/km)

29 Apparently, the Anglicans are the homophobic ones.

NTTAWWT

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 03, 2016 10:56 PM (1ijHg)

30 16


I'm in the market for a new computer. What is so bad about Windows 10?





Posted by: Jamali Breckmister at July 03, 2016 10:49 PM (zySRA)


First, it's license terms amount to "bend over a desk". Second, it's spyware and reports back to Microsoft about anything you do with it. Third, it actually admits that Win 8 was a terrible, terrible mistake -- but doesn't advance beyond what Win 7 did. Fourth, its default browser sucks worse than IE, if you can believe that.....

Win 7 was an advancement of the art over XP. Everything since has been horrible. If you want to run anything by Microsoft in the future, I would strongly advise that it be kept on a virtual machine.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 03, 2016 10:57 PM (EzgxV)

31

Via Hot Air Headlines section:

Freddie Gray Prosecutor Marilyn Mosby Slammed With Complaint Seeking Her Disbarment

(link to Law News)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/glq63cv

"A law professor at George Washington University School of Law has filed the disciplinary complaint with the Attorney Grievance Commission of Maryland against Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby."


I can hardly wait to hear her defense.

My one wish is to run the popcorn, beverages and snacks concession at the Commission's building.

Posted by: Arbalest at July 03, 2016 10:57 PM (FlRtG)

32 Centex?

I have an old friend in Cameron. I would love to see him. Too bad the old "ball and chain" keeps me at home.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 03, 2016 10:58 PM (1ijHg)

33 A priest and a rabbi go into a bar. ...

... wait. Instead, a Mormon elder and an A.M.E. pastor go into a bar. I don't know what happened next but I'll bet it was funny.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 03, 2016 10:58 PM (zyusq)

34 windoze 10 likes to update on its own and will occassionally highjack your computer to install said update.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 03, 2016 10:58 PM (6n332)

35 Should a person teeth structure decide their fate?
That's ludicrous!

Posted by: a phrenologist at July 03, 2016 10:58 PM (A/+my)

36 Konbanwa, Horde!

Posted by: Zettai ryoiki at July 03, 2016 10:58 PM (kP16F)

37 Does Lott still operate that speed-trap? My buddy and I escaped it only because we slowed down to pull over and switch drivers.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 03, 2016 10:59 PM (1ijHg)

38 The girl with the brain tumor doesn't seem to be much of a threat. The TSA is a lawless band of bullies.

Posted by: ALH at July 03, 2016 11:00 PM (Z56vq)

39 Help me, I'm lost. How did I end up on the ONT?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 03, 2016 11:00 PM (OQqKV)

40 Willowed in the last thread:

341 Thank you for this post, NDH.

I've been thinking about this for a long time. The cities are going to burn this summer and we are going to be looking at a complete breakdown of our society and civilization because of the depredations of the Obama Administration and the insanity of this election.

I'm preparing Sharkman's 2016 Apocalyptic Election Survival Plan. Any member of The Horde who wants a copy in the next couple weeks when I'm finished with it, please just email me at Peterjvaughn1963 -at- gmail.com and I'll send it along.

My roommate has been flying a Global 6000 passenger executive jet for the last 10 years and has access to almost unlimited cheap jet fuel. I'm scouting property up in the San Juan Island in Washington that possibly could be crowd-funded for purchase. And I'm a member of the board or stock-holder in 3 different companies that have technology that would provide I'm limited energy, medicinal purity water, and modular home building materials.

I'm willing to commit to rescuing any member of The Horde and The Horde members' family when the Shit hits the fan and bringing them to the San Juan "compound". Just have your Go bags ready, be willing to stand watch and walk perimeter defense, and participate in the new Democratic process when the time comes.

I'm not a survivalist or a lunatic, but I do see something happening to our country that might be reversible. Survival is our job.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 03, 2016 10:45 PM (TXntV)

Posted by: Sharkman at July 03, 2016 11:00 PM (TXntV)

41 #NeverWinX!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 03, 2016 11:00 PM (kP16F)

42 Is is funny to read Jane Austin and Charlotte Bronte' because so much credence was given to phrenology and physiognomy.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 03, 2016 11:00 PM (1ijHg)

43 Lovey... Lovey... I won. I won something. Sure it's not the Presidency. Or the Nobel Peace Prize. It's not even the Kentucky Derby, which I was odds on favorite for several times already. But to be the top sockpuppeter at the Ace of Spades HQ is tremendous honor. Possibly only dwarfed by my marvelously spectacular Iran Nuke deal, and the fact that I got two rich women to actually marry me and let me mooch off their wealth.


**rides up and down the street on a pink, girl's bike, shouting about the victory**

Posted by: Secretary of State Lurch Kerry at July 03, 2016 11:00 PM (H9MG5)

44 Every bloody time I read about that airport security/TSA beating up that poor girl I get really f-in angry. I'm a peaceful man (and former law enforcement), but that story makes me want to head down to my local airport to give some a few TSA agents a taste of their own medicine.

I am really ashamed of the state of so-called law enforcement in this country. Those who are "good" cops really need to step up to curb this sh*t down to nil. Used to be, not too far back, that front-line agency staff had a way of dealing with bad apples. But, alas, it seems criminals, even those with badges, get more due process than those they deprive of it.

Posted by: Shinjinrui at July 03, 2016 11:02 PM (4SznG)

45 Help me, I'm lost. How did I end up on the ONT?

You probably took a right turn at Albuquerque.

Posted by: B. Bunny at July 03, 2016 11:02 PM (GDWxo)

46 Looooove "Die Hard" and Bruce was such a perfect pick!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 03, 2016 11:03 PM (NOIQH)

47 I've got no complaints at all about Windows 8.1 on either my desktop or my small netbook although I don't do any heavy-duty gaming or the like on either.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 03, 2016 11:04 PM (A/+my)

48 The TSA beating Hannah Cohen makes me physically ill - how could they do that to her? It is sick!! I have a niece who is autistic and the scares the bejeezus out of me.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 03, 2016 11:05 PM (NOIQH)

49 Ricardo- I completely understand but would be great if you could be there. Just remember you will be there in spirit if not in person. OH shit, are we liveblogging the CenTex strategic planning?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 03, 2016 10:54 PM (OQqKV)

Sure why not?

I can see this turning into something really great.

Posted by: Blano at July 03, 2016 11:06 PM (heN73)

50 39
Help me, I'm lost. How did I end up on the ONT?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 03, 2016 11:00 PM (OQqKV)


You were trying to rescue a Todos Santos executive with a subway excavation machine?

Posted by: cthulhu at July 03, 2016 11:06 PM (EzgxV)

51 Here is where you are mistaken Sharkman.

The Christians in this country do not obey the law out of fear of the government. We obey the law out of love for our God and our fellow creatures. The federal govt. may collapse. But society consists of rings. The inner ring: family. Next, neighbors. Next: church, school, friends. Next city, then State. I am not worried.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 03, 2016 11:06 PM (1ijHg)

52 >>>I am really ashamed of the state of so-called law
enforcement in this country. Those who are "good" cops really need to
step up to curb this sh*t down to nil. Used to be, not too far back,
that front-line agency staff had a way of dealing with bad apples. But,
alas, it seems criminals, even those with badges, get more due process
than those they deprive of it.

Posted by: Shinjinrui at July 03, 2016 11:02 PM (4SznG)<<<

Guess we shouldn't mention what we did to her dog.

Posted by: militarized thug cops that the TSA called to her house at July 03, 2016 11:07 PM (H9MG5)

53 39
Help me, I'm lost. How did I end up on the ONT?

Did you update Google Maps?

Posted by: ALH at July 03, 2016 11:07 PM (Z56vq)

54 44
I am really ashamed of the state of so-called law enforcement in this country. Those who are "good" cops really need to step up to curb this sh*t down to nil. Used to be, not too far back, that front-line agency staff had a way of dealing with bad apples. But, alas, it seems criminals, even those with badges, get more due process than those they deprive of it.
Posted by: Shinjinrui at July 03, 2016 11:02 PM (4SznG)



Karl Denninger wrote a post a long time ago saying that cops can only do their jobs because the majority of law-abiding citizens support them and have their backs.

When they lose the support of law-abiding citizens, they will quickly discover that they are outnumbered and outgunned by criminals and gangs.

Posted by: rickl at July 03, 2016 11:07 PM (sdi6R)

55 http://preview.tinyurl.com/oo7tv6l

From WZ. Paul Harvey on our Founders.

Posted by: Infidel at July 03, 2016 11:08 PM (ml68g)

56 btw, the local cops here are the best of men.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 03, 2016 11:09 PM (1ijHg)

57 Looking at that religion chart, I guess we're pretty much doomed.

Posted by: rickl at July 03, 2016 10:54 PM (sdi6R)

Even people who call themselves Christians are bitterly divided over this election and the state of things.

Two recent conversations with people who call themselves Christians have confirmed to me there's no hope. To them cops are more dangerous than Hillary, abortion, Muslim terrorism, etc.

Posted by: Blano at July 03, 2016 11:09 PM (heN73)

58 Toe-popper NYPD bomb squad has determined to be an 'experiment' (sidebar). Expect more field practice.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 03, 2016 11:10 PM (P/kVC)

59 The various "Anglican" churches in the USA are NOT "mainline." They are traditionalist, theologically conservative break-aways from the Episcopal Church --- renegades, whether they are high church/catholic or low church/reform.

I am surprised to see the United Methodist Church show a 54% majority of Republicans. The conservative Methodists I know, most of whom have already switched to independent Wesleyan churches, give me the impression that the UMC has gone moonbat with the gaysies, social justice crap, and BDS.

I'm sure patterns vary from region to region and parish to parish though.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 03, 2016 11:10 PM (T/5A0)

60 That is very sad Blano.

Posted by: Infidel at July 03, 2016 11:10 PM (ml68g)

61 24 Regarding the voting patterns by religion, I hang my head in shame.

Oops. I didn't say, because I'm Catholic. The thing is, most Catholics that I know profess to :
be against abortion
not be in favor of gay marriage
believe people should work for what they want
believe in gun rights
believe in government fiscal responsibility
believe in personal responsibility

For some reason, many of them still vote for democrats. I don't get it.
How can anyone with a moral code support HER.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 03, 2016 11:10 PM (+lVUW)

62 Posted by: Sharkman at July 03, 2016 10:45 PM (TXntV)
Posted by: Sharkman at July 03, 2016 11:00 PM (TXntV)

****

Should that time come, I am in. I can provide a few shekels too.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 03, 2016 11:11 PM (YLidQ)

63 A priest, a rabbi, and an imam go into a bar. Everybody dies.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 03, 2016 11:12 PM (DW+jj)

64 BTW, Toronto's BLM group* halted the "Pride" Parade today for 30 minutes until the organizers agreed to sign a list of demands! This despite the Clown Prince, Justin Trudeau, attending the parade that the MFM breathlessly informed us was the first time a P.M. had attended a Pride parade!!!11!!1!

*Yes, we've got a BLM group here now despite no history of slavery; the vast majority of blacks being first or second generation immigrants; black-on-black crime here kills more blacks than anyone else including the cops; crime and poverty here don't come close to black slums in Democrat cities in the U.S.; and the "issue" that supposedly moved them was the cops carding everyone but mainly blacks (for some strange reason!) and not cops shooting blacks; and since carding was ended by our politicians and first black police chief, crime is up including a (relatively) huge wave of stabbings.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 03, 2016 11:13 PM (A/+my)

65 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 03, 2016 11:13 PM (T/cxb)

66 "A law professor at George Washington University School of Law has filed the disciplinary complaint with the Attorney Grievance Commission of Maryland against Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby."

I can hardly wait to hear her defense.

Posted by: Arbalest at July 03, 2016 10:57 PM (FlRtG)


YOU'RE ALL RAYCISSSS!

Posted by: M MOSBY at July 03, 2016 11:13 PM (+lVUW)

67 btw, the local cops here are the best of men.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 03, 2016 11:09 PM (1ijHg)


I should clarify, Jimbo, that I believe that most cops are really good men and women, and have the best interest of their communities at heart. However, some thing needs to be done about corruption within the ranks and over-politicizing by L.E. management. Else like rickl wrote above: "When they lose the support of law-abiding citizens, they will quickly discover that they are outnumbered and outgunned by criminals and gangs."

Posted by: Shinjinrui at July 03, 2016 11:14 PM (4SznG)

68
Greetings from the Adirondacks. Super weather lately plus the place is going nuts with fireworks this year. Every little town has been blowing off ordnance with a vengeance.

A few of us even have the honor to march in parades tomorrow.

I still like getting the A's on and walking a bit.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 03, 2016 11:15 PM (X35Yt)

69 those TSA goons are assholes. That said not all of them are that way. When we travel with my six year old autistic daughter I tell them she doesn't understand what they are asking and they have been (so far) pretty good about making some allowances. And what a lot of folks traveling with kids who have disabilities don't know is you can call up tsa ahead of time and tell them your situation and once you check in they come get you and you go through a totally different and private security check. It's totally great if you have an autos it child who cannot handle the waiting at security.

Posted by: IC at July 03, 2016 11:15 PM (KTFfX)

70 cthulhu- OK, actually I was using a seismic boring drill to see if the San Andreas fault was going to send CA into the ocean.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 03, 2016 11:15 PM (OQqKV)

71 (Takes off the Eeyore costume)

Aw, yeah! Saturday night ONT! Woohoo!

Posted by: Shinjinrui at July 03, 2016 11:15 PM (4SznG)

72

66 M MOSBY

"YOU'RE ALL RAYCISSSS!"



How could you possibly read what I typed? It was in cursive ...

Posted by: Arbalest at July 03, 2016 11:16 PM (FlRtG)

73 38 The girl with the brain tumor doesn't seem to be much of a threat. The TSA is a lawless band of bullies.
Posted by: ALH at July 03, 2016 11:00 PM (Z56vq)


When the announcement that TSA was being started and mobs of TSA agents were being hire, IIRC during Bush administration, I remember thinking, "How are they going to hire that many qualified people so quickly?"

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 03, 2016 11:16 PM (+lVUW)

74 >>BTW, Toronto's BLM group* halted the "Pride" Parade today for 30 minutes
until the organizers agreed to sign a list of demands!


LOL!
After the LGBT groups harassing and suing the Boston St Patrick's Day parade organizers for years and years in order to crash *their* parade.
Priceless.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 03, 2016 11:16 PM (NOIQH)

75 First, it's license terms amount to "bend over a
desk". Second, it's spyware and reports back to Microsoft about anything
you do with it. Third, it actually admits that Win 8 was a terrible,
terrible mistake -- but doesn't advance beyond what Win 7 did. Fourth,
its default browser sucks worse than IE, if you can believe that.....

Win
7 was an advancement of the art over XP. Everything since has been
horrible. If you want to run anything by Microsoft in the future, I
would strongly advise that it be kept on a virtual machine.




Posted by: cthulhu at July 03, 2016 10:57 PM



Is it safe to get win7 yet? Will the win10 free "upgrade" not be a threat after this month? Got a new pc, but it looks like there's a problem with directX... video drivers... or whatnot on the XP os. Want to stick with XP, but I'm being pushed down like a fat girl.

Posted by: otho at July 03, 2016 11:17 PM (EWg9n)

76 I watched Ted Baxter's, O'Reilly, Legends and Lies the past few nights. Last night's episode was about Ben Franklin. I'd forgotten, but was pleasantly reminded that he was, well, a horn dog. He liked him the ladies in London in the day.

Here's to ya, Ben. A lot of them weren't sure where his loyalties lay. He told Addams something about realizing he was an American all along. His son was a dedicated royalist, and they never spoke again, with Ben saying he ought to be hung.

Tonight's episode was about George Washington. He was the sine qua non of the United States. The fact that the city that bears his name has become such a den of vipers and thieves is a sacrilege to his name. Better it burn to the ground with the earth salted than the scum that now inhabit it continue to defile his name.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 03, 2016 11:17 PM (DW+jj)

77 so i dunno

if we're going to do preparedness threads why not make em Open Threads?

but do it like Drills.

BOOM Dirty Bomb goes off in Manhattan

(insert current weather patterns)

SITREP on official responses

then, What do you do? GO

etc

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 03, 2016 11:17 PM (Cq0oW)

78 I've been thinking about this for a long time. The cities are going to burn this summer and we are going to be looking at a complete breakdown of our society and civilization

Sounds like business as usual in Detroit.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 03, 2016 11:18 PM (+lVUW)

79 We have had a rainy day and evening. Thundershowers. Nature often out-booms the fireworks. There was some firework activity, but the rain "put a damper on it" SWIDT.

I hope tomorrow is dryer. Because if they don't get to set off their fireworks tomorrow, they will wait until they can and do it then.

Here in the South, July 4th and New Years Eve and celebrated by the expenditure of money on private fireworks. No opinion is offered. I am free. They are free.




Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 03, 2016 11:19 PM (1ijHg)

80 It troubles me that so many Christians, Jews, Asians, etc. -- people with supposedly strong family traditions -- drink the leftist Kool-Aid... I've read various thoeries on why this may be, none are really explain it though!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 03, 2016 11:20 PM (kP16F)

81 All the TSA can do is protect airliners.

Passengers won't let them get used as missiles ever again.

The dirtbags can't do another 911.

It's bullshit work.

Meanwhile a Jihadi can blow up a hundred people in the check-in area.

Just shut the TSA down.

Posted by: eman at July 03, 2016 11:20 PM (MQEz6)

82 Sharkman, and if you lay in any vessel up to about 100 ft.~100 Gross Tons, I can likely navigate it for you there.

Deep displacement trawler type hull would be ideal for supply haulage. Single or twin screw, matters not.

With a sturdy pier and a suitable dock mounted crane, all manner of things can be wrangled ashore.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 03, 2016 11:20 PM (v5iqM)

83 I still use Vista on this computer.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 03, 2016 11:21 PM (1ijHg)

84 Gay vs BLM link in my sock. And, yes, laughing at the friendly fire is alot of fun.

I'll be interested in seeing how the MFM reports this. I'm betting they will underplay it but we'll see.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 03, 2016 11:22 PM (A/+my)

85 The cities are going to burn this summer

This city burns every summer. Mother nature makes sure of it. Some dumb asses want to riot when it's 110 out? Go for it dummies, we'll laugh as you die of dehydration from running around out there.

And if they wait until fall, we'll emulate the roof Koreans.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 03, 2016 11:22 PM (T/cxb)

86 i can still use BeOS on mine

works well with this site

/sarc

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 03, 2016 11:22 PM (Cq0oW)

87 70 cthulhu- OK, actually I was using a seismic boring drill to see if the San Andreas fault was going to send CA into the ocean.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 03, 2016 11:15 PM (OQqKV)

I'm going to beat you to it with nuclear weapons.

Here's my hot investment tip - look into Nevada beachfront property.

Posted by: Lex Luthor at July 03, 2016 11:23 PM (wQWv4)

88 I can't tell if this storm front coming is gonna stomp on us or scoot just to the north end of DFW.

Posted by: Blano at July 03, 2016 11:23 PM (heN73)

89 Tonight's episode was about George Washington. He was the sine qua non of the United States.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 03, 2016 11:17 PM (DW+jj)


I don't know if it's apocryphal or not, but supposedly King George III was astonished when he heard that Washington had voluntarily stepped down from the Presidency.

Posted by: rickl at July 03, 2016 11:24 PM (sdi6R)

90 Sharkman, was just chatting with family about this recently --- that we really need a plan in place since we are on the outskirts of a city that would get ugly fast.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 03, 2016 11:24 PM (NOIQH)

91 I rather like Win 8.1... I just got an 8" Windows tablet in 8.1 that I'm using right now!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 03, 2016 11:24 PM (kP16F)

92 The sword of Cortez shall silence that foul tongue!

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 03, 2016 11:25 PM (GdFQh)

93 I use Apple at home.

Microsoft is only for work and my company owns all the equipment.

Posted by: eman at July 03, 2016 11:26 PM (MQEz6)

94 that's not a mirror!!

Posted by: sunny at July 03, 2016 11:26 PM (XBatu)

95 if you're in Texas just assume the worst.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 03, 2016 11:27 PM (Cq0oW)

96 Yes, George III heard that Washington was going to relinquish power at the end of the Revolution, and said "If he does that, he will be the greatest man in history."

Washington could have been King George I of America, if he desired. They would have gladly crowned him and bowed before him. He turned it down, and went home.

In history, with revolutions, a Washington is a rare bird. You usually get a Castro or the like. Power corrupts. It did not corrupt Washington.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 03, 2016 11:27 PM (DW+jj)

97 Here in the South, July 4th and New Years Eve and celebrated by the expenditure of money on private fireworks. No opinion is offered. I am free. They are free.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 03, 2016 11:19 PM (1ijHg)

****

Here in Atl suburbs NW, I got rolled up on by a "concerned" neighbor last year because the fireworks I was setting off were "bothering babies, dogs and young children", on July 6th, as opposed to the 4th, due to rainout.

Since we got legal fireworks, we also got laws protecting their use. I was lighting off at 9:00, and was good until 10:00 p.m.

I lit off the finales as the douchebag got back to the end of the driveway after I ordered him off of my property.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 03, 2016 11:27 PM (YLidQ)

98 The Catholic hierarchy likes Socialism because it takes the burden of taking care of the poor off of them. What they fail to understand is that charity MUST be voluntary, and not forced by the state.

Personally, I would like 100% of the Bishop's Annual Appeal to go straight to Catholic hospitals.

Everything else? The state is doing.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 03, 2016 11:28 PM (1ijHg)

99
I don't get it.
How can anyone with a moral code support HER.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 03, 2016 11:10 PM (+lVUW)
------------------

Republicans have a reputation for being mean.

It's one reason why I think Republicans (or conservatives) should "come out" to their associates. People get to know you, they know you're generous and pleasant, reasonable, smart, so they assume you're liberal. Let them know you're on the other side so they can get their assumptions overturned.

Posted by: iforgot at July 03, 2016 11:28 PM (5o5ek)

100 I took the Window 10 Mobile upgrade on my phone... What a disappointment!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 03, 2016 11:28 PM (kP16F)

101 Just about everybody in DC today would hop onto the Iron Throne in a heartbeat.

Posted by: eman at July 03, 2016 11:29 PM (MQEz6)

102 Hey Lex - any tips for a tactical nuke on the capital after the summer recess?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 03, 2016 11:29 PM (OQqKV)

103 >>>Here in Atl suburbs NW, I got rolled up on by a "concerned" neighbor last year because the fireworks I was setting off were "bothering babies, dogs and young children", on July 6th, as opposed to the 4th, due to rainout.
Since we got legal fireworks, we also got laws protecting their use. I was lighting off at 9:00, and was good until 10:00 p.m.
I lit off the finales as the douchebag got back to the end of the driveway after I ordered him off of my property.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 03, 2016 11:27 PM (YLidQ)

Dare I guess East Cobb?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 03, 2016 11:30 PM (GdFQh)

104 You quit at 10:00pm?

You are a Prince among men.

On New Years Eve, I usually hear them all the way up to it with a cresendo at midnight.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 03, 2016 11:30 PM (1ijHg)

105
The TSA is a lawless band of bullies.
Posted by: ALH



S. 1447 (107th): Aviation and Transportation Security Act

Senate 100-0, House 410-9, Dubya signed

You're welcome.

Posted by: Your GOP

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 03, 2016 11:30 PM (kdS6q)

106 99
I don't get it.
How can anyone with a moral code support HER.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 03, 2016 11:10 PM (+lVUW)
------------------

Republicans have a reputation for being mean.

It's one reason why I think Republicans (or conservatives) should "come out" to their associates. People get to know you, they know you're generous and pleasant, reasonable, smart, so they assume you're liberal. Let them know you're on the other side so they can get their assumptions overturned.
Posted by: iforgot at July 03, 2016 11:28 PM (5o5ek)

Doing that makes some of them despise you.

Many people vote Democrat due to peer pressure. I see them signal threats and warnings about sraying from the herd.

Posted by: eman at July 03, 2016 11:31 PM (MQEz6)

107 Dare I guess East Cobb?
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 03, 2016 11:30 PM (GdFQh)

******
Extreme NW Cobb, but point taken about the lumps of coal soon to turn to diamonds in East Cobb.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 03, 2016 11:31 PM (YLidQ)

108
How can anyone with a moral code support HER

===

"at that level, they are all scum without exception. she is at least being confronted with a come to jesus moment"

"at that level, every president is a figurehead fulfilling a predetermined political program. you are not selecting a person but a set of lever pullers. i prefer her set of oligarchs to yours"

or some such variation

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 03, 2016 11:34 PM (Cq0oW)

109 You quit at 10:00pm?

You are a Prince among men.

On New Years Eve, I usually hear them all the way up to it with a cresendo at midnight.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 03, 2016 11:30 PM (1ijHg)

****

I was lighting off at 9:30, I had until 10:00 by law. Mind you this was not on the Holiday date. That day we have until 1:00 a.m.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 03, 2016 11:34 PM (YLidQ)

110 105
S. 1447 (107th): Aviation and Transportation Security Act

Senate 100-0, House 410-9, Dubya signed

You're welcome.

Posted by: Your GOP
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 03, 2016 11:30 PM (kdS6q)



The Patriot Act was another bill that had to be passed right fucking now because OMG Crisis!

Never trust any bill that has a cute acronym or is named after a crime victim. It's guaranteed to chip away at your liberty.

Posted by: rickl at July 03, 2016 11:35 PM (sdi6R)

111 What kind of idiot lets the car drive him into a traffic fatality?

If I die in a car crash, it's either my fault or some idiot. Nobody's effing computer will be to blame.

Maybe that faggot in England, the PhD in Philosophy, needs a car that will drive itself.

Maybe he needs a dick that will fuck itself.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 03, 2016 11:35 PM (1ijHg)

112 91 I rather like Win 8.1... I just got an 8" Windows tablet in 8.1 that I'm using right now!


Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 03, 2016 11:24 PM (kP16F)



Windows 8 is a fine operating system...


...for a phone or a tablet. For an actual computer with a mouse and keyboard it was one of the dumbest ideas on the planet. I do know of at least one person that had a Windows 8 phone and they loved it. They had a Windows 8 PC and they hated it.

Posted by: buzzion at July 03, 2016 11:37 PM (bMG0w)

113 58
Toe-popper NYPD bomb squad has determined to be an 'experiment' (sidebar). Expect more field practice.


Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 03, 2016 11:10 PM (P/kVC)


An "experiment"? Could it be, maybe "Improvised"? It might be an "Improvised Explosive Device", perhaps?????

And, where have we ever seen those before.....?

Posted by: cthulhu at July 03, 2016 11:37 PM (EzgxV)

114 How many pages was the TSA act, and the Patriot Act? It's funny how detailed shit like that just seems to be lying around in a drawer somewhere, ready to pull out and become law when the time is right.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 03, 2016 11:37 PM (DW+jj)

115
The Patriot Act was another bill that had to be passed right fucking now because OMG Crisis!
Posted by: rickl



You're just gonna love our GOP gun control bill next week.

Posted by: Paul "Gym Mat" Ryan

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 03, 2016 11:37 PM (kdS6q)

116 that Central Park "experiment" wasn't to test a firework or an IED; it was to see the response plan in operation. Stay the hell out of NY tomorrow.

Posted by: Grad School Fool at July 03, 2016 11:38 PM (swEzU)

117 102 Hey Lex - any tips for a tactical nuke on the capital after the summer recess?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 03, 2016 11:29 PM (OQqKV)

Wait for the Iranians to do it.

Posted by: Lex Luthor at July 03, 2016 11:38 PM (wQWv4)

118 for a phone or a tablet. For an actual computer with a mouse and keyboard it was one of the dumbest ideas on the planet. I do know of at least one person that had a Windows 8 phone and they loved it. They had a Windows 8 PC and they hated it.
Posted by: buzzion at July 03, 2016 11:37 PM (bMG0w)

*****

One OS across three platforms. Doesn't work? Who'd a thunk it?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 03, 2016 11:38 PM (YLidQ)

119 >>>It somehow feels fitting for 4th of July weekend that the oldest State House in the nation was hit by lightning but saved by a 208-year-old original Ben Franklin lightning rod.


It's an auspicious sign. The lightning symbolizes the destruction and chaos of the Obama administration. The lightning rod symbolizes the wisdom of the Founding Fathers, whose foresight in authoring the Constitution would forever prevent wicked tyrants from... aw who am I kidding? #WASTF

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 03, 2016 11:38 PM (/mnCx)

120 I don't know what the local law is. It doesn't matter. These are my neighbors having fun. I am not a Puritan.

Besides, my wife doesn't want to go to bed before midnight. So it doesn't bother me.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 03, 2016 11:38 PM (1ijHg)

121 TSA needs to be routed into oblivion. My God how awful.

Posted by: Cheri at July 03, 2016 11:40 PM (TmVQX)

122 Hah, Scott Johnson is channelling Bloom County:
http://www.gocomics.com/bloomcounty/1984/10/28

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 03, 2016 11:40 PM (6FqZa)

123 I've got a Win 8 phone and it's ok. Win 8 or 10 on a desktop though is awful. I really hate MS for shoving that crap and being so sneaky about it.

Posted by: f'd at July 03, 2016 11:41 PM (BO/km)

124 When does the Senate vote on their Sanctuary city bill? I want to know when to get my bets in on which shits are going to side with the democrats to block it.

Posted by: buzzion at July 03, 2016 11:41 PM (bMG0w)

125
66 "A law professor at George Washington University School of Law has filed the disciplinary complaint with the Attorney Grievance Commission of Maryland against Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby."

--------------------------

What a sucker Mosby is. That poseur Deray McKesson got disgraced for making BlackLivesMatter money disappear, got 2.5% of the vote in the Democratic primary for Baltimore mayor, and now..... he's got a 6-figure salary with the Baltimore City Public School System.

Mosby's a klutz who doesn't know how to surf the wave that carried her into the headlines. She'll probably scream sexism when she wipes out.

Posted by: iforgot at July 03, 2016 11:41 PM (5o5ek)

126 70
cthulhu- OK, actually I was using a seismic boring drill to see if the San Andreas fault was going to send CA into the ocean.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 03, 2016 11:15 PM (OQqKV)


Be my guest just as soon as I'm East of the Mississippi.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 03, 2016 11:41 PM (EzgxV)

127 61 The thing is, most Catholics that I know profess to :
be against abortion
not be in favor of gay marriage
believe people should work for what they want
believe in gun rights
believe in government fiscal responsibility
believe in personal responsibility

For some reason, many of them still vote for democrats. I don't get it.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 03, 2016 11:10 PM (+lVUW)
-----------------------------------
I doubt that many Catholics that REALLY hold those views vote Dem.

In any case, the label "Catholic" in this country is much more of an ethnic-heritage signifier than a religious/moral one, IMO. Note than the political breakdowns of "Catholics" and of "all adults" are almost exactly the same.



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 03, 2016 11:41 PM (T/5A0)

128 When does the Senate vote on their Sanctuary city bill? I want to know when to get my bets in on which shits are going to side with the democrats to block it.

Flake is a lock to side with the Dems, McCain is a likely.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 03, 2016 11:42 PM (T/cxb)

129 Yuimetal,

Or you are reading into the event (how did they know that the lightning rod worked?) what you want.

I read the story. It was vague. When lightning strikes, did the old Ben Franklin rod keep a record of it?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 03, 2016 11:42 PM (1ijHg)

130 Back on my notebook... Yep. Still Win 8.1. Typing is a quite a bit easier!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 03, 2016 11:42 PM (kP16F)

131 IG should guest blog every Independence Day. We need that America Fuck Yeah! pep talk.

Posted by: bebesboobsdestroy at July 03, 2016 11:44 PM (hscyr)

132 Flake is a lock to side with the Dems, McCain is a likely.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 03, 2016 11:42 PM (T/cxb)


I'm still waffling on McCain. Any other year it would be a guarantee and he would call everyone that wanted it racist. But its an election year for him so "build the danged fence"

Posted by: buzzion at July 03, 2016 11:44 PM (bMG0w)

133
121 TSA needs to be routed into oblivion. My God how awful.
Posted by: Cheri at July 03, 2016 11:40 PM (TmVQX)
-----------------

Rick Perry, Trump's Secretary of Shutting Things Down, will probably be stopped cold by McRyan when he tries to redo it along the Israeli model, which is all profiley and doesn't use enough money.

Posted by: iforgot at July 03, 2016 11:45 PM (5o5ek)

134 Yeah, my atheist brothers (I have 5, 2 of them are athiests) answer Census questionaires "Catholic".

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 03, 2016 11:45 PM (1ijHg)

135 Most of the Catholics I know around here (SE PA) are Democrats.

Posted by: rickl at July 03, 2016 11:45 PM (sdi6R)

136 75
First, it's license terms amount to "bend over a

desk". Second, it's spyware and reports back to Microsoft about anything

you do with it. Third, it actually admits that Win 8 was a terrible,

terrible mistake -- but doesn't advance beyond what Win 7 did. Fourth,

its default browser sucks worse than IE, if you can believe that.....

Win

7 was an advancement of the art over XP. Everything since has been

horrible. If you want to run anything by Microsoft in the future, I

would strongly advise that it be kept on a virtual machine.






Posted by: cthulhu at July 03, 2016 10:57 PM



Is
it safe to get win7 yet? Will the win10 free "upgrade" not be a threat
after this month? Got a new pc, but it looks like there's a problem with
directX... video drivers... or whatnot on the XP os. Want to stick with
XP, but I'm being pushed down like a fat girl.


Posted by: otho at July 03, 2016 11:17 PM (EWg9n)


You can get Win7 so long as you load and run "gwx control panel" [ http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/ ] BEFORE you connect your machine to the internet. Once gwx control panel is resident on your machine (and configured properly, which is easy), you can then connect your machine and download windows upgrades without one sending your machine into the Win10 junkyard.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 03, 2016 11:46 PM (EzgxV)

137 105

The TSA is a lawless band of bullies.
Posted by: ALH


Without a doubt. On top of that what idiots decided to arrest her, put her in jail? For what? Any TSA bullies arrested and put in jail?

Posted by: gracepc at July 03, 2016 11:46 PM (OU4q6)

138
I've got a Win 8 phone and it's ok. Win 8 or 10 on a desktop though is awful. I really hate MS for shoving that crap and being so sneaky about it.
Posted by: f'd




Your phone may be up-gradable to Win 10 Mobile. Run the upgrade advisor to find out.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 03, 2016 11:46 PM (kdS6q)

139 96: He turned it down, and went home.


I don't blame him either. Home was Mt. Vernon and its beautiful. Worth seeing if any of you are in the DC area. I live about 15 minutes away from there.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 03, 2016 11:47 PM (eujXY)

140 You can get Win7 so long as you load and run "gwx
control panel" [ http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/ ] BEFORE you
connect your machine to the internet. Once gwx control panel is resident
on your machine (and configured properly, which is easy), you can then
connect your machine and download windows upgrades without one sending
your machine into the Win10 junkyard.




Posted by: cthulhu at July 03, 2016 11:46 PM


Excellent. Thanks!

Posted by: otho at July 03, 2016 11:47 PM (EWg9n)

141 I'm still waffling on McCain. Any other year it would be a guarantee and he would call everyone that wanted it racist. But its an election year for him so "build the danged fence"

Kelli Ward is the only reason for McCain not to side with the Dems. If he survives the primary, he'll be back to his old mavericky ways. Reaching across the aisle to give a reach-around to his buddies who are busy screwing US citizens in the ass.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 03, 2016 11:47 PM (T/cxb)

142 Hopefully this means Iran and Saudi Arabia are going to destroy each other soon.

PHOTO: Ballistic missile reportedly intercepted over Khamis Mushayt, Saudi Arabia - @FaisalbinFarhan

Posted by: Thrawn at July 03, 2016 11:49 PM (wQWv4)

143 They had a Windows 8 PC and they hated it.
I've got the XP emulator added to my Win8.1 so it's fine for the desktop.

I think it's the program by IvoSoft called Classic Shell--looks like it from a Bing search.

My IT guy installed it (if that is the program) a long time ago so I can't recall all the details.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 03, 2016 11:49 PM (A/+my)

144 128
Flake is a lock to side with the Dems, McCain is a likely.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 03, 2016 11:42 PM
---------------------
So McCain has the nomination locked up?
I thought he had a serious primary challenger.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 03, 2016 11:49 PM (T/5A0)

145 If we are lucky, they will destroy each other.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 03, 2016 11:50 PM (1ijHg)

146 Posted by: Thrawn at July 03, 2016 11:49 PM (wQWv4)


Have you started growing a big bushy Viking beard yet?

Posted by: buzzion at July 03, 2016 11:50 PM (bMG0w)

147 "that Central Park "experiment" wasn't to test a
firework or an IED; it was to see the response plan in operation. Stay
the hell out of NY tomorrow.


Posted by: Grad School Fool"

I agree. When the hell is this holy month over, anyways?

We make Christmas cookies and candy during our holy months; these savages hack people to death. Moral relativism? I don't think so.

Posted by: PJ at July 03, 2016 11:50 PM (cHuNI)

148 that Central Park "experiment" wasn't to test a firework or an IED; it was to see the response plan in operation. Stay the hell out of NY tomorrow.

====

also just down the block from Eli Wiesels funeral procession

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 03, 2016 11:50 PM (Cq0oW)

149
Hopefully this means Iran and Saudi Arabia are going to destroy each other soon.

Will it be like the Iran/Iraq war?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 03, 2016 11:50 PM (IqV8l)

150 93
I use Apple at home.



Microsoft is only for work and my company owns all the equipment.





Posted by: eman at July 03, 2016 11:26 PM (MQEz6)



Apple has been very, very good for a very, very long time. When they fail, it is going to be epic -- and, like any monoculture, it is inevitable that they will fail.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 03, 2016 11:51 PM (EzgxV)

151 133
Rick Perry, Trump's Secretary of Shutting Things Down, will probably be stopped cold by McRyan when he tries to redo it along the Israeli model, which is all profiley and doesn't use enough money.
Posted by: iforgot at July 03, 2016 11:45 PM (5o5ek)


We can't do Israeli-style screening in the U.S. because it requires hiring high-IQ screeners. That would run afoul of affirmative action hiring practices.


But remember, diversity is our strength.

Posted by: rickl at July 03, 2016 11:51 PM (sdi6R)

152
Doing that makes some of them despise you.

------------------------

It's why you have to wait until they know you. Ex-liberal acquaintance of mine met my family, assumed we were all right-thinking liberals because of the adopted foreign kids, the open doors, the open minds, etc., and then suddenly her world made no sense when she found out how we voted.

Of course, she was actually willing to think about things -- i.e., what's wrong with my ideas if this is reality?

Posted by: iforgot at July 03, 2016 11:51 PM (5o5ek)

153 Tonight we went to the church where Mrs Hades entire family grew up attending and her Uncle Mark, who is an Orthodox priest, performed a small ceremony for us and her brother and sister in law, themselves newlyweds, with her parents and some of her cousins in attendance. It was everything she wanted, so it has been a very special evening.


Happy 4th of July people!

Posted by: GGE Hades of the Traveling Horde, Pennsylvania at July 03, 2016 11:51 PM (iZ/y/)

154 So McCain has the nomination locked up?
I thought he had a serious primary challenger.


No, and he does have a serious challenger. But if he thinks he can get away wiith it...

That's enough politics on the ONT. I know better. Sorry everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 03, 2016 11:51 PM (T/cxb)

155 That rod has probably been hit many times. The key to good lightning protection is well placed and well grounded rods.

There are a variety of high tech lightning protection devices that claim to improve on the Franklin rod but actually are no better and in some cases worse. Of course lots of government types buy into them because "science" and they have do idea how lightning rods work.

Posted by: f'd at July 03, 2016 11:52 PM (BO/km)

156 @136, cooth:

I had the GWX Control Panel and a script for a command prompt that purports to remove any Windows updates with telemetry functions loaded on a Micro SD card... I popped that in my new tablet and loaded them when I booted up the first time before going online!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 03, 2016 11:52 PM (kP16F)

157 100
I took the Window 10 Mobile upgrade on my phone... What a disappointment!


Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 03, 2016 11:28 PM (kP16F)


....and no way back....

Posted by: cthulhu at July 03, 2016 11:52 PM (EzgxV)

158 Saudi intercept most likely missile was fired from Yemen. Wouldn't be the first.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 03, 2016 11:53 PM (78yA/)

159 Hopefully this means Iran and Saudi Arabia are going to destroy each other soon.

That fart ISIS set off in Baghdad, to be smelled around the world...

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 03, 2016 11:53 PM (6FqZa)

160
We can't do Israeli-style screening in the U.S. because it requires hiring high-IQ screeners. That would run afoul of affirmative action hiring practices.
------------------

I was thinking about that, too....

Two SCOTUS appointments coming up....

Posted by: iforgot at July 03, 2016 11:53 PM (5o5ek)

161 Yuimetal,

Or you are reading into the event (how did they know that the lightning rod worked?) what you want.

I read the story. It was vague. When lightning strikes, did the old Ben Franklin rod keep a record of it?
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo


Oh no, I don't put any real belief in omens and portents and the like. I just think if it happened, wouldn't it be cool that the Founders' ingenuity that was still able to save a building after all those years was also able to keep this government creaking along all these years, despite the best efforts of corrupt, evil schlubs like Ayers, Alinsky, Obama et al to destroy it. Not a bad run.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 03, 2016 11:53 PM (/mnCx)

162
We can't do Israeli-style screening in the U.S. because it requires hiring high-IQ screeners. That would run afoul of affirmative action hiring practices.
Posted by: rickl



Huh?

Posted by: The Average TSA Screener - Letting a Kid Run Into the Gorilla Enclosure

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 03, 2016 11:55 PM (kdS6q)

163 Have you started growing a big bushy Viking beard yet?
Posted by: buzzion at July 03, 2016 11:50 PM (bMG0w)

Hehe. I don't know which would be more impossible to pull off - the bushy Viking beard (I can't stand long hair at all) or the physique.

I also honestly don't know how I feel about God of War: The Last of Us aka Kratos Tries to Parent yet. The series had to go in another direction to get a new audience, but how they'll balance commanding the kid around with the action...we'll see.

Posted by: Thrawn at July 03, 2016 11:55 PM (wQWv4)

164 158 Saudi intercept most likely missile was fired from Yemen. Wouldn't be the first.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 03, 2016 11:53 PM (78yA/)

Right, I had forgotten about Yemen.

Posted by: Thrawn at July 03, 2016 11:56 PM (wQWv4)

165 Living in Oregon, Sharkman's redoubt will be closer than my bolt hole in Montana. I may have to seriously rethink our strategy.

Posted by: Octiparan at July 03, 2016 11:57 PM (D1TF/)

166
I took the Window 10 Mobile upgrade on my phone... What a disappointment!
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki



Found it an improvment. Controls and settings are easier to access.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 03, 2016 11:58 PM (kdS6q)

167 Tomorrow I will spend the 4th at the VA hospital to do a cook out for our nursing home vets. This will be a good remedy to remember what real men and patriots are all about. We have one vet who is a survivor of the Bataan Death March. God bless them all.

Posted by: Cheri at July 03, 2016 11:59 PM (TmVQX)

168 you won't need high iq screeners if you just allow profiling.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 03, 2016 11:59 PM (Cq0oW)

169 I would maintain that if the state house was struck by lightening, then the lightening rod didn't work. It's job isn't to soak up a lightening strike, its job is to prevent it altogether.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 03, 2016 11:59 PM (9mTYi)

170 The mid East is a hell of a place.....

Freaking Yemen, without mastering plumbing, has ballistic missiles......

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 04, 2016 12:00 AM (78yA/)

171 Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/749656150946091008

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/749656301764915200

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/749656607550631936

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/749656793974861824

Posted by: kbdabear at July 04, 2016 12:01 AM (GrXXa)

172 On my Windows phone, I enrolled in the "Windows Insider Programme" to get the Windows 10 Mobile upgrade... It's OK, better than 8.1 Mobile... Going back to a basic feature phone when upgrade time from my carrier rolls around again, though!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 04, 2016 12:01 AM (kP16F)

173 Here in Atl suburbs NW, I got rolled up on by a "concerned" neighbor last year because the fireworks I was setting off were "bothering babies, dogs and young children", on July 6th, as opposed to the 4th, due to rainout.

My beagle is scared of fireworks. Too bad. When did these special snowflakes decide that their neighbors aren't allowed to do anything that bugs them?

I was going to suggest that your neighbor move out to the country, but people like this move to rural areas, then gripe because of the smell of livestock or the noise from tractors at 7 in the morning.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 04, 2016 12:01 AM (+lVUW)

174
That's enough politics on the ONT. I know better. Sorry everyone.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 03, 2016 11:51 PM (T/cxb)
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Actually, I think despising McCain is more like religion than politics. At least it is for me.

Posted by: iforgot at July 04, 2016 12:01 AM (5o5ek)

175 I also honestly don't know how I feel about God of War: The Last of Us aka Kratos Tries to Parent yet. The series had to go in another direction to get a new audience, but how they'll balance commanding the kid around with the action...we'll see.
Posted by: Thrawn at July 03, 2016 11:55 PM (wQWv4)

I like that they are trying to do something different with the series, but worry that they will not be able to integrate the fatherhood aspects well. Done well, it could be great. Done poorly...

You know it is funny, the further I get from playing Last of Us, the less I like the story. Witcher 3 was awesome, and seems to be holding steady in my regard. Both had parenting as their primary story elements, but they could not have been more different in execution.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 12:01 AM (3ZoRf)

176 Wiki takes a while to get to charge dissipation theory. Most skimming the page will miss it

Posted by: derit at July 04, 2016 12:01 AM (ewfUZ)

177 More Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/749657038632792064

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/749658083249442816

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/749658721169453056

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/749658969832951808

Posted by: kbdabear at July 04, 2016 12:02 AM (GrXXa)

178 You can't stop lightning from striking something. You can only safely dissipate the charge. That's what the rods, heavy cables, and ground rods are for.

You could shield it with wires or some sort of cage but that would be impractical.

Posted by: f'd at July 04, 2016 12:02 AM (BO/km)

179 God bless them all.
Posted by: Cheri
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And you too.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 12:02 AM (9mTYi)

180 So the dems have dropped the requirement that illegals learn English to be granted amnesty from their platform

Posted by: Jen the original at July 04, 2016 12:03 AM (8hbJK)

181 also honestly don't know how I feel about God of War: The Last of Us aka Kratos Tries to Parent yet. The series had to go in another direction to get a new audience, but how they'll balance commanding the kid around with the action...we'll see.

Posted by: Thrawn at July 03, 2016 11:55 PM (wQWv4)


Well if you do have to rely on the kid hopefully he's more like these guys,

https://youtu.be/MNqgSCQ75jI

Than these guys,

https://youtu.be/7zRyPpjXwco

Posted by: buzzion at July 04, 2016 12:03 AM (bMG0w)

182 It's job isn't to soak up a lightening strike, its job is to prevent it altogether.
Its job is to prevent it.

That's what you meant, right?
/Airplane

Posted by: andycanuck at July 04, 2016 12:03 AM (A/+my)

183 Even More Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/749659179401351169

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/749659477075300353

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/749659675713429506

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/749659830034456577

Posted by: kbdabear at July 04, 2016 12:03 AM (GrXXa)

184 One can navigate offline on Windows 10 Mobile without a special app now. So that's something...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 04, 2016 12:03 AM (kP16F)

185 You could shield it with wires or some sort of cage but that would be impractical.
Posted by: f'd at July 04, 2016 12:02 AM (BO/km)

And essentially you would be doing the same thing with a cage that you are doing with a rod, just much more cumbersomely(word?)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 12:04 AM (3ZoRf)

186 169 I would maintain that if the state house was struck by lightening, then the lightening rod didn't work. It's job isn't to soak up a lightening strike, its job is to prevent it altogether.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 03, 2016 11:59 PM (9mTYi)


Huh? I always thought the purpose of lightning rods was to soak up a lightning strike and prevent damage to buildings.

How are they supposed to prevent lightning strikes?

Posted by: rickl at July 04, 2016 12:04 AM (sdi6R)

187 National Review reviews "BFG" - it's about how Obama is a liberal god, and it's great!
http://tinyurl.com/htpa3q5

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 12:04 AM (6FqZa)

188
So Snowden gets to live in Russia for the rest of his life and hope they don't give him a job on a reptile farm.

Posted by: iforgot at July 04, 2016 12:05 AM (5o5ek)

189 Mask the signature-- chaff in Thrown In Zeus' Fiery Eyes

Posted by: derit at July 04, 2016 12:06 AM (ewfUZ)

190 And essentially you would be doing the same thing with a cage that you are doing with a rod, just much more cumbersomely(word?)

Well no because the building would be isolated and there would be no chance of flashover from the down conductors. The charge would never get close enough damage the building.

Posted by: f'd at July 04, 2016 12:06 AM (BO/km)

191 Actually, I think despising McCain is more like religion than politics. At least it is for me.

I'd have to get to know the man to despise him at a religious level.

I'd rather not.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 04, 2016 12:06 AM (T/cxb)

192 Are you sure it wasn't a review of TFG?

Posted by: andycanuck at July 04, 2016 12:06 AM (A/+my)

193 153
Tonight we went to the church where Mrs Hades entire family grew up
attending and her Uncle Mark, who is an Orthodox priest, performed a
small ceremony for us and her brother and sister in law, themselves
newlyweds, with her parents and some of her cousins in attendance. It
was everything she wanted, so it has been a very special evening.


Happy 4th of July people!


Posted by: GGE Hades of the Traveling Horde, Pennsylvania at July 03, 2016 11:51 PM (iZ/y/)


That sounds lovely, GGE. May you both have *all* the blessings.....including cthulhu's.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 04, 2016 12:07 AM (EzgxV)

194 Hi everyone. I very rarely comment here but I read the site daily and just wanted to give a thank you for all of the great posts, especially the ones with Ace's snarky wit and also the great ONT content full of interesting tidbits. This is one of my favorite places on the Net. THANK YOU

Posted by: Huck at July 04, 2016 12:07 AM (BG6sQ)

195 Thank you Mike.

Posted by: Cheri at July 04, 2016 12:07 AM (TmVQX)

196 Mrs Ryoiki uses an Android phone, and the Spawn Of Ryoiki have iPhones, so, of course, I had to get something different! They envy me, so there's that...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 04, 2016 12:08 AM (kP16F)

197 Well no because the building would be isolated and there would be no chance of flashover from the down conductors. The charge would never get close enough damage the building.
Posted by: f'd at July 04, 2016 12:06 AM (BO/km)

Granted, a faraday cage is more effective than a lightning rod, but I am not sure the look would catch on.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 12:08 AM (3ZoRf)

198 "A law professor at George Washington University School of Law has filed the disciplinary complaint with the Attorney Grievance Commission of Maryland against Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby."
****

Only because she promised them a lynching and then failed to follow thru.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 12:08 AM (hVdx9)

199 When I see BFG I think "Big Fucking Gun"

Posted by: eman at July 04, 2016 12:08 AM (MQEz6)

200 When I see BFG I think "Big Fucking Gun"

BFG 9000. Nothing looks like it, nothing kills like it.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 04, 2016 12:10 AM (T/cxb)

201 And you want us to help you paint a fence because it's just so gosh-darned fun, Huck, like that Sawyer dick told us?

Posted by: andycanuck at July 04, 2016 12:10 AM (A/+my)

202
180 So the dems have dropped the requirement that illegals learn English to be granted amnesty from their platform
Posted by: Jen the original at July 04, 2016 12:03 AM (8hbJK)
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They never meant it to begin with.

One of those (We Swear It's Not) Amnesty bills touted by Republicans had an English proficiency provision in it -- something like "be enrolled in a program," which meant nothing but lots of $50 fees to community colleges that would collect the tuition and never take attendance.

Posted by: iforgot at July 04, 2016 12:10 AM (5o5ek)

203 156
@136, cooth:

I had the GWX Control Panel and a script for a
command prompt that purports to remove any Windows updates with
telemetry functions loaded on a Micro SD card... I popped that in my new
tablet and loaded them when I booted up the first time before going
online!


Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 03, 2016 11:52 PM (kP16F)


....and that's the way it's done. Your next issue is to find a new OS before yours does EOL, but you should have some years.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 04, 2016 12:11 AM (EzgxV)

204 How are they supposed to prevent lightning strikes?
Posted by: rickl
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I belong to the school which believes that de-ionizing the local air is the critical function of lightening rods.

Obviously, should a strike occur, the rod/conductor path is highly preferable to, oh, your house wiring, but I still go with the de-ionization theory.

I'm not sure anyone agrees on that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 12:12 AM (w/iDp)

205 I'm guessing Roald Dahl (of Norse descent) was, himself, nicknamed the BFG during his Royal service in WW2. And "F" didn't stand for "Friendly"

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 12:12 AM (6FqZa)

206 Hey everybody.

BTH, from what I've read Roald Dahl was quite anti-semitic... as well as very cynical about writing children's literature, i.e. he saw it as a great way to make quick bucks for not much work.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 12:14 AM (q7T0y)

207 'but I am not sure the look would catch on.'

That's why lots of good ole Franklin rods are the best solution. They give the lightning an easy path to discharge so it doesn't have to pass thru something less conductive. It will go thru stone, brick, wood, whatever to get to ground if it has to.

Posted by: f'd at July 04, 2016 12:14 AM (BO/km)

208
So the dems have dropped the requirement that illegals learn English to be granted amnesty from their platform
Posted by: Jen
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They never meant it to begin with.


But we'll make them learn English, pay back taxes and go to the back of the line. We swear!

Posted by: GOPe at July 04, 2016 12:14 AM (IqV8l)

209 Granted, a faraday cage is more effective than a lightning rod, but I am not sure the look would catch on.

Call it a Gehry and make it rain

Posted by: derit at July 04, 2016 12:15 AM (ewfUZ)

210 That's why lots of good ole Franklin rods are the best solution. They give the lightning an easy path to discharge so it doesn't have to pass thru something less conductive. It will go thru stone, brick, wood, whatever to get to ground if it has to.
Posted by: f'd at July 04, 2016 12:14 AM (BO/km)

Oh, I am not arguing with how it works, just that a cage is impractical.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 12:15 AM (3ZoRf)

211 Heh. 2001 is on TMC. HAL is talking. Ctrl-Alt-Revolt

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 12:16 AM (w/iDp)

212
But we'll make them learn English, pay back taxes and go to the back of the line. We swear!
Posted by: GOPe at July 04, 2016 12:14 AM (IqV8l)
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Okay, here's my vote.

Posted by: we have met the enemy, and it is...... at July 04, 2016 12:16 AM (5o5ek)

213 167--- Tomorrow I will spend the 4th at the VA hospital to do a cook out for our nursing home vets. This will be a good remedy to remember what real men and patriots are all about. We have one vet who is a survivor of the Bataan Death March. God bless them all.
Posted by: Cheri at July 03, 2016 11:59 PM (TmVQX)
-----------------------------
That's what my son, who's a regular VA volunteer, will be doing tomorrow!

My daughter and I made two gorgeous sheet cakes for him to take.
Okay, that's not quite accurate. I made 2 plain ol' sheet cakes and a bunch of icing and then my artsy-fartsy daughter turned them into gorgeous works of patriotic art.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 04, 2016 12:16 AM (T/5A0)

214 That's it for me tonight. See you all latish tomorrow. (And a special goodnight to Huck!)

Posted by: andycanuck at July 04, 2016 12:17 AM (A/+my)

215
Heh. 2001 is on TMC.

TCM

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 12:17 AM (IqV8l)

216 qdpsteve, Dahl also threw Salman Rushdie right under the bus when the Shi'ite hit the fan. I quit buying his books when I found that out

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 12:17 AM (6FqZa)

217 A lightning protection system must be able to take a hit. That's it's job. Lightning is basically an RF phenomenon, rapid pulses of current, once the leaders and streamers have made contact. That's why it acts so unpredictable and does such crazy shit. The impedance of what seems like low resistance conductors can be quite high at these high freqs..

I've seen lightning follow a straight wire, but refuse to make a sharp turn in that wire, just arcing off at the elbow. It's the high frequency nature that does crap like that.

I lightning protection system must be able to take the hit, and provide a low impedance path to earth to prevent damage. This something of an art still.

Typical cloud to ground strokes are "negative". That is, negative charge is being transferred to earth, which is separated by still no completely understood processes in a thundercloud.

It's peak is about 30kA, with a rise time of about 1 - 10 us (microseconds). That is a step function, and is the extremely high frequency region.

A stroke is actually several pulses of current, maybe 40 ms between. There can be a few or tens of such pulses.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 04, 2016 12:18 AM (DW+jj)

218 Heh. 2001 is on TMC.

TCM
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.
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Pedant

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 12:19 AM (w/iDp)

219
203
156

@136, cooth:

I had the GWX Control Panel and a script for a

command prompt that purports to remove any Windows updates with

telemetry functions loaded on a Micro SD card... I popped that in my new

tablet and loaded them when I booted up the first time before going

online!




Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 03, 2016 11:52 PM (kP16F)


....and that's the way it's done. Your next issue is to find a new OS before yours does EOL, but you should have some years.


Posted by: cthulhu at July 04, 2016 12:11 AM (EzgxV)


I should further note that all OS's face EOL problems. Of course, with Linux, they're mainly addressed by: "sudo apt-get update"; "sudo apt-get upgrade"; "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"......and then you're good for a few more years....

Posted by: cthulhu at July 04, 2016 12:19 AM (EzgxV)

220 TMC...

"Open the pod bay doors IBM 9000"

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 12:19 AM (V/vW+)

221 Grandpa was the second wave at Normandy. Battle of the Bulge. Never talked about it. Woke up for decades in pools of sweat dreaming of those nights. Lead a quiet existence as a hard working father of 3.

These are the bravest, most humble people I ever knew. They are and always be my heros.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 04, 2016 12:20 AM (89T5c)

222 HAL is creepy. Very creepy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 12:21 AM (w/iDp)

223 Is Robert Osborne still on The Movie Channel?

Posted by: derit at July 04, 2016 12:21 AM (ewfUZ)

224 Yeah, cooth. My new tablet is just a toy... It probably will die before Win 8.1 is deprecated. I had an Android tablet a couple of years ago, but it was freaking me out. I rooted it, then bricked it, and in the trash it went! A tablet is handy when I'm out and about, and using the phone for browsing teh webz just ain't cutting it. The smartphone just hasn't really been all that useful to me...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 04, 2016 12:21 AM (kP16F)

225 A lightning protection system must be able to take a hit.

And so should those damned passengers.

Posted by: The TSA at July 04, 2016 12:21 AM (Tyii7)

226 Just because an OS reaches its so called end of life doesn't mean it won't work anymore.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 12:21 AM (IqV8l)

227 BTH, didn't know that. Quite a piece of work he was.

From Wikipedia:

In 1983 Dahl reviewed Tony Clifton's God Cried, a picture book about the siege of West Beirut by the Israeli army during the 1982 Lebanon War.[69] Dahl's review stated that the book would make readers "violently anti-Israeli", writing, "I am not anti-Semitic. I am anti-Israel." [70] Dahl told a reporter in 1983, "There's a trait in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity ... I mean there is always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere; even a stinker like Hitler didn't just pick on them for no reason."[70] Dahl maintained friendships with a number of Jews, including philosopher Sir Isaiah Berlin, who said, "I thought he might say anything. Could have been pro-Arab or pro-Jew. There was no consistent line. He was a man who followed whims, which meant he would blow up in one direction, so to speak."[70] Amelia Foster, director of the Roald Dahl Museum in Great Missenden, states, "This is again an example of how Dahl refused to take anything seriously, even himself. He was very angry at the Israelis. He had a childish reaction to what was going on in Israel. Dahl wanted to provoke, as he always provoked at dinner. His publisher was a Jew, his agent was a Jew, and thought nothing but good things from them. He asked me to be its managing director, and I'm Jewish."[71]

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 12:22 AM (q7T0y)

228 Mission Control, "Roger Discovery, we've discovered the issue. It's coming from within your spacecraft. X-Ray Golf Clear."

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 12:23 AM (V/vW+)

229 Mike, yup re HAL.

I love asking the trivia question: what was the name of the actor who played HAL (or, provided his voice)?

You'd think he'd be a household name, but he's not.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 12:23 AM (q7T0y)

230 HAL should have had a female voice.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 12:24 AM (IqV8l)

231 The above is normal cloud to ground lightning. The most common is cloud to cloud. Picture a tall thundercloud hovering over the ground below. The distance to the top of the cloud is greater than the bottom to the ground. The thundercloud is a charge separation engine, taking electrons and negative charge to the bottom, and leaving the top positive. This negative charge on the bottom builds up a strong field and spreads out, some of it to the ground below via cloud to ground strikes.

This gives the ground a net negative charge relative to the whole cloud. That separation must be equalized as well. When this happens, we have the more rare "positive stroke" events, coming out of the top of the cloud. These are generally an order of magnitude stronger than regular cloud to ground, and these make one hell of a boom. Current is typically 300kA, ten times typical negative cloud to ground, and the path is miles and miles, coming from the top of the cloud, going sideways for a long way, then turning down to ground.

They've documented an arc length of over 10 miles with these. Now, lightning protection system don't do so hot against these if they happen to have take one.

A jetliner years ago got knocked out and it turned it out, best they can figure it, that it got in the path of one of these monster positive strokes.

A plane can easily stand the regular strikes. Not so much these.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 04, 2016 12:24 AM (DW+jj)

232 Just because an OS reaches its so called end of life doesn't mean it won't work anymore.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 12:21 AM (IqV8l)


Remote autokill function in OS update in 3...2...

Posted by: The Hat-OS at July 04, 2016 12:25 AM (vBeA5)

233 Panting is no way to go through space, son

Posted by: derit at July 04, 2016 12:25 AM (ewfUZ)

234 'I've seen lightning follow a straight wire, but refuse to make a sharp turn in that wire, just arcing off at the elbow.'

I've seen that too. That's why no 90 degree bends on down conductors and arrestor wiring. I've seen some crazy shit lightning can do to buildings and equipment. Almost burnt my house down once.

Posted by: f'd at July 04, 2016 12:25 AM (BO/km)

235
Posted by: Cheri at July 03, 2016 11:59 PM (TmVQX)

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My God, tell those people Thank-you for me!

Posted by: we have met the enemy, and it is...... at July 04, 2016 12:25 AM (5o5ek)

236
Posted by: Cheri at July 03, 2016 11:59 PM (TmVQX)

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Aaaaaand, thank YOU.

Posted by: we have met the enemy, and it is...... at July 04, 2016 12:26 AM (5o5ek)

237 Raines is no so plaine in Spain

It was tried in 2010: Year We Make Contact.

SAL, "Dr. Chandra will I dream?"

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 12:26 AM (V/vW+)

238 Well, since I have a lighted lightening rod flagpole, I'm going out to put up the 'big' flag for tomorrow. If I'm not back in 10 minutes, a bear probably got me.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 12:26 AM (w/iDp)

239 Bertram: that happened in 2010.

Kubrick should have demanded the original negative of that Peter Hyams sequel be burned, it's so horrible.

Oh, and I also read today: Michael Cimino, who just passed away, had *really* wanted to make a big-screen adaptation of, believe it or not, Ayn Rand's "The Fountainhead." Cimino even *spoke approvingly of the character Howard Roark*, when he came out of seclusion to do a Q&A at a film festival a few years ago.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 12:27 AM (q7T0y)

240 His publisher was a Jew, his agent was a Jew, and thought nothing but good things from them. He asked me to be its managing director, and I'm Jewish."[71]
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 12:22 AM (q7T0y)

It never ceases to amaze me the pretzels people will twist themselves into in order to justify things in their own heads.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 12:29 AM (3ZoRf)

241
Kubrick should have demanded the original negative of that Peter Hyams sequel be burned, it's so horrible.

The over the top cold war crap turned me off.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 12:29 AM (IqV8l)

242 Off topic but I missed last thread. Bacon in a can. Search Tactical bacon. Survival bacon in a can. Spreadable bacon. Yes you read that correctly. Fourty to fifty slices per can for about $15. Great Mo' stocking stuffer. Just sayin '.

Posted by: Eye-Tie at July 04, 2016 12:29 AM (dQN2K)

243 Aetius, correctamundo.

They should have just admitted it: "Yeah Dahl's a jew-hating asshole, but he's made me a ton of money so I choose to look the other way."

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 12:30 AM (q7T0y)

244 239--- I thought there already was a big-time movie of The Fountainhead. With Gary Cooper, I think. (?)

Yes 1949 w/ Cooper.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 04, 2016 12:30 AM (T/5A0)

245
HAL should have had a female voice.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 12:24 AM (IqV8l)
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Ooh, yeah, and it should have been called EVE.

We could do this all night.

Posted by: we have met the enemy, and it is...... at July 04, 2016 12:30 AM (5o5ek)

246 Kubrick would have had no say since the book versions of 2001 and 2010 are solely credited to Arthur C. Clarke. And Clarke was happy with Hyam's additions which now make the movie a very dated piece of anti-American agitprop.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 12:30 AM (V/vW+)

247
Search Tactical bacon.

Strategic bacon.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 12:31 AM (IqV8l)

248 They've said to improve the classic Franklin rod, by topping it with a 1" metal sphere, rather than the pointed spike of the Franklin.

Seems to work the dissipation angle a bit more efficiently, and when struck, ultra-high-speed video seems to show that the spherical topped rod transmits more of the bolt, with fewer spider-webbed bolts fingering off in different directions.

This isn't my area of expertise by any means, just passing along some Popular Mechanics/Science stuff from years past.

But, I'm a bit more knowledgeable about grounding a sailboat mast and hull.

Short version, your boats systems are screwed, often as not.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 04, 2016 12:31 AM (v5iqM)

249 Anna, yup. Just proving, Kubrick was a lot smarter than Arthur C. Clarke was.

I've also read Clarke chose to live in a micro-republic like Sri Lanka... so he could have his way with a lot of the young boys there, if you get my drift. (He came out as gay very late in his life.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 12:32 AM (q7T0y)

250 I have lightning rods on all my buildings here. Never had a strike, that I know of. And thunderstorms today, and all week before, too. Some severe.


As the charged cloud passes overhead, it induces a charge in the ground beneath it. Lightning rods, with their sharp points, can serve as a locus for a corona discharge to bleed off the excess ground charge. And if a lightning rod is hit by lightning, the grounding cable should guide the current to ground, and even if it is vaporized, the resulting plasma channel should keep the lightning current from destroying the building. Should, at least in theory.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2016 12:32 AM (GSdpU)

251 It never ceases to amaze me the pretzels people will twist themselves into in order to justify things in their own heads.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 12:29 AM (3ZoRf)

The same could be said of Dahl. Any sentence where you start with "I am not x-ist, but..." usually needs to be thought better of, because you are already in the hole readying the shovel, and you just don't know it yet.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 12:33 AM (3ZoRf)

252 Herman Melville had a pretty low opinion of lightning rod salesmen.

http://www.classicshorts.com/stories/tlrm.html

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 04, 2016 12:33 AM (/mnCx)

253
Kubrick should have demanded the original negative of that Peter Hyams sequel be burned, it's so horrible.

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One doesn't know where to begin on that abomination.

It could easily be live-blogged by Ace, it's that bad.

Posted by: we have met the enemy, and it is...... at July 04, 2016 12:33 AM (5o5ek)

254 I remember reviewing 2010 here at the HQ's comments. Alcohol might have been involved. In fact, for that movie, alcohol was necessary.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 12:33 AM (6FqZa)

255 Anna, what *is* frustrating is that Peter Hyams actually *phoned* Stanley Kubrick and *asked his permission* to make 2010. Kubrick's response was, "Do what you want with it, I don't care."

OMG. I personally think that was Stanley's all-time worst decision of his career. He could have at least demanded Peter learn the first lesson of great filmmaking: SHOW, DON'T TELL.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 12:33 AM (q7T0y)

256 HAL, you suck at troubleshooting discrete components. Stick to rebooting and swapping boards

Posted by: derit at July 04, 2016 12:33 AM (ewfUZ)

257 So a classic Franklin rod has a one inch spherical head?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 12:34 AM (IqV8l)

258 qdpsteve, in regards to how baked Clarke as a writer was his sexual bend has no bearing when it comes to any of the books with HAL or Heywood Floyd or Chris Floyd. Or good gracious 3001 when they resurrect Frank Poole so him and the digital avatars of Bowman and HAL can give the TMA a bad case of computer viruses.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 12:34 AM (V/vW+)

259 Oh, the potential difference between the top of the positive cloud (which has bled negative charge to ground) and the earth can be a GV, a gigavolt, which is astounding.

The actual voltage for most such lightning you can say, "about a MV" or two or so.

In air, a megavolt is all you're going to get practically. Well, it's true what matters is the field, the *gradient* in potential, with most wires of any practical size, when you get to a MV, the local field will get so high that ionization will start (aided by cosmic rays and other random ionization events), little "fingers", or leaders in the language, and she'll arc over. That's what lightning is, naturally arcing over due to ionization of the air due to the electric field build up.

Another thing they recently discovered, and couldn't hardly believe. Thunderclouds, even small ones, generate gamma ray flashes. To do that, they have to accelerate electrons to relativistic speeds. And they do somehow.

There are a few proposed mechanisms, and I don't know if they've figured which one, or if it's a combination of several or all that do it. But they do.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 04, 2016 12:34 AM (DW+jj)

260 HAL should have had a female voice.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 12:24 AM (IqV8l)
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Ooh, yeah, and it should have been called EVE.

We could do this all night.

Posted by: we have met the enemy, and it is...... at July 04, 2016 12:30 AM (5o5ek)


I remember reading an alternate history story where Ronald Reagan doesn't run for Calif. Gov., and is cast as the voice of HAL in 2001. He kept on going off script and said "there you go again, Dave" rather than "I'm affraid I can't do that, Dave"...

Posted by: The Alternate Hat at July 04, 2016 12:35 AM (vBeA5)

261
Holy god, no one told me I was walking around with that sock on?

Posted by: iforgot at July 04, 2016 12:35 AM (5o5ek)

262 Anna, uh, okay. :-)

I admit I'm not very familiar at all with Clarke's sequels to 2001.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 12:36 AM (q7T0y)

263 When I see BFG I think "Big Fucking Gun"

BFG 9000. Nothing looks like it, nothing kills like it.

Posted by: Blanco Basura

****

Reminds me of that scne in the b movie Split Second
We need big f*cking guns!

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 12:36 AM (hVdx9)

264 Kubrick did not care because with 2001 and almost bankrupting a movie company, he had already created his desired science fiction movie.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 12:36 AM (V/vW+)

265 So a classic Franklin rod has a one inch spherical head?

If you went around inquiring of any decent Parisian brothel at the time, you could probably have found out.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 12:36 AM (6FqZa)

266 226
Just because an OS reaches its so called end of life doesn't mean it won't work anymore.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 12:21 AM (IqV8l)


No, it just means that properly-documented security updates to newer versions will advertise its vulnerabilities.

It's that easy -- take Ubuntu. If you know someone running 15.04, "Vivid Vervet", support ended on February 4th. If you run 15.10 "Wily Werewolf", every security update you got after 2/4/16 gives you a well-documented potential attack against your buddy.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 04, 2016 12:36 AM (EzgxV)

267 According to Vincent LoBrutto's biography of Stanley Kubrick, Stan had a hard time deciding how he wanted HAL to sound.

SK even joked at one point, "maybe HAL should sound like Jackie Mason." Nice to hear Stan had a sense of humor.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 12:37 AM (q7T0y)

268
I remember reading an alternate history story where Ronald Reagan doesn't run for Calif. Gov., and is cast as the voice of HAL in 2001. He kept on going off script and said "there you go again, Dave" rather than "I'm affraid I can't do that, Dave"...

----------------------

lol

"HAL, tear down this force field."

Posted by: iforgot at July 04, 2016 12:37 AM (5o5ek)

269 48 The TSA beating Hannah Cohen makes me physically ill - how could they do that to her? It is sick!! I have a niece who is autistic and the scares the bejeezus out of me.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 03, 2016 11:05 PM (NOIQH)

According to the TSA spokeshole your niece's parents should call ahead of time to let them know your niece is autistic so please could the fat retarded TSA goons try to be understanding and not beat her to a pulp and throw her in jail.

Posted by: kbdabear at July 04, 2016 12:38 AM (28hrt)

270 Anna, that too. I think Stan kinda already knew, it didn't matter how good or bad 2010 was; his original was already more or less untouchable.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 12:38 AM (q7T0y)

271 California strikes again!

Back in 1999, the doorknobs in the state legislature passed an assault weapons ban. One of the things that was use to define what an assault weapon is is whether or not the weapon has a clip that is removable by hand (without using a tool). If you could just push a button to pop out a removable magazine, you had a scary assault weapon on your hands. Someone came up with a design where the button was recessed so you couldn't just push it with your finger, but you could push it with a bullet. The bullet served as a tool, so therefore the weapon achieved non-scary non-assault status.

Well, this past Friday, just in time for our celebration of our country's independence and our individual liberty, Governor Moonbeam signed a new law banning the bullet button guns.

Fortunately, someone has already came up with a workaround. Since the law doesn't take effect until 1/1/17, everyone should have a chance to get the new fix into all the retail channels before then.

http://tinyurl.com/zrc7hx2

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 04, 2016 12:38 AM (R+30W)

272 "I'm sorry, PATCO, I'm afraid I can't do that."

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 12:38 AM (6FqZa)

273 The set people were not too happy with Clarke either. For example the control panel with its MFDs for the Ares lunar transit vehicle. When the first concept was shown to Clarke he remarked it looked like a Chinese menu. Kubrick advised him to stay away from the sets for a couple days.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 12:40 AM (V/vW+)

274 155 That rod has probably been hit many times. The key to good lightning protection is well placed and well grounded rods.
There are a variety of high tech lightning protection devices that claim to improve on the Franklin rod but actually are no better and in some cases worse. Of course lots of government types buy into them because "science" and they have do idea how lightning rods work.
Posted by: f'd at July 03, 2016 11:52 PM (BO/km)


There are various schools of thought on lightning rods designs as well as debate whether they're even beneficial in the first place. There seems to be some evidence that they are in terms on damage mitigation. But what the optimal design is seems to be still up in the air. The fact that Franklin's design at the MD statehouse has taken lightning hits over years with little damage to the building suggests that his design at least does not suck.

Posted by: Maetenloch at July 04, 2016 12:40 AM (wqVD1)

275 Damn foreign subtitles

Posted by: derit at July 04, 2016 12:40 AM (ewfUZ)

276 264 Kubrick did not care because with 2001 and almost bankrupting a movie company, he had already created his desired science fiction movie.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 12:36 AM (V/vW+)

And this may bring out the pitchforks and the torches, but I have never really enjoyed the film. The scenes are extraordinarily impressive. The effects are great. As a visual spectacle, it is fantastic.

As a movie with a story: I think it kind of fails to meet the bar of enjoyable entertainment.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 12:41 AM (3ZoRf)

277 HAL Headroom.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 12:41 AM (IqV8l)

278 So when watching 2001, how many skip the apes in Africa and go straight to the Pan-Am shuttle?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 12:41 AM (V/vW+)

279 Balls on the end vs pointed was a big point of contention between us 'Mericuns and the damn Brits. We liked points, while the Brits though the spheres were better. The point was never settled, until recently. Turns out the Brits were likely right, and a ball can take a hit better than a point.

A point will increase the local field and get local ionization and corona started when a charge starts building up. There is some theorizing that it will dissipate fast enough to prevent a ground streamer for forming and thus reduce the possibility of a strike.

Whether this works or not, well, one should not rely on it. As was said, a rod must able to take a hit and divert the energy to ground.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 04, 2016 12:41 AM (DW+jj)

280 Gamma ray flashes from thundercloud flashes? I'd never heard of that! I own a Geiger counter and every few of minutes, when not near any source of radiation and the low-energy shield over the detector, it will crackle like mad for a brief moment... It's an "Auger Shower", so I've read. Same thing, perhaps?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 04, 2016 12:42 AM (kP16F)

281 Anna, oh yeah.

When Kubrick bought the rights to a novel and turned it into a movie, he more or less officially stopped giving a shit what the author's original intention, motivation, ideas, etc etc, were. It became HIS story and he was going to do with it whatever HE felt was necessary.

I've noticed there never seem to be any stories of Stephen King visiting the set for "The Shining." It wouldn't surprise me, especially given how much King has badmouthed the 1980 flick, that he did in fact visit... and got thrown out by Stan for bitching too much, "this isn't my novel!!" :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 12:43 AM (q7T0y)

282 I've noticed there never seem to be any stories of Stephen King visiting the set for "The Shining." It wouldn't surprise me, especially given how much King has badmouthed the 1980 flick, that he did in fact visit... and got thrown out by Stan for bitching too much, "this isn't my novel!!" :-P
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 12:43 AM (q7T0y)

And in that case, that is a really good thing. See the TV version of the Shining.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 12:44 AM (3ZoRf)

283 I would take Kubrick on a bad day over King on a good day, hands down.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 12:44 AM (V/vW+)

284 Hello pinchy

Posted by: derit at July 04, 2016 12:44 AM (ewfUZ)

285 So a classic Franklin rod has a one inch spherical head?
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Our flagpole is topped with a brass toilet tank float.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 12:44 AM (J3phO)

286
And this may bring out the pitchforks and the torches, but I have never really enjoyed the film.
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I tried to enjoy it because I knew I was supposed to. I had no idea what the hell it was about, so I read the book and then read more Arthur Clarke. So it wasn't a total waste.

Posted by: iforgot at July 04, 2016 12:45 AM (5o5ek)

287 Aetius, oh yeah.

When he was asked why he didn't shoot King's conclusion as the novel indicated, Kubrick would always respond "it isn't filmable."

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 12:45 AM (q7T0y)

288 Anna, me too. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 12:45 AM (q7T0y)

289 I thought King's reaction to Kubrick's "Shining" was like Richard Bentley's reaction to Alexander Pope's "Iliad": Very pretty but you must not call it King.

"The Drawing of the Three" even refers to some cinematography in "The Shining", when the camera is racing along the floor on wheels.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 12:47 AM (6FqZa)

290 276 264 Kubrick did not care because with 2001 and almost bankrupting a movie company, he had already created his desired science fiction movie.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 12:36 AM (V/vW+)

And this may bring out the pitchforks and the torches, but I have never really enjoyed the film. The scenes are extraordinarily impressive. The effects are great. As a visual spectacle, it is fantastic.

As a movie with a story: I think it kind of fails to meet the bar of enjoyable entertainment.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 12:41 AM (3ZoRf)

++++

John Wayne agreed with you. He walked out on the screening he was attending.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 04, 2016 12:48 AM (R+30W)

291 "See the TV version of the Shining."

I did get to see Rebecca DeMornay in a nightie, so, that wasn't a total waste.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 12:48 AM (6FqZa)

292 I still wish Kubrick had lived long enough to finish his version of AI instead of Spielberg having to pick up the pieces. I think the ending would have left you wanting more and sad in a different way than the sappy sad of David meeting a recreation of his dead mother while surrounded by glass sculpture aliens.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 12:48 AM (V/vW+)

293 Test....

Posted by: Hillbillyking at July 04, 2016 12:48 AM (ayGCF)

294 When he was asked why he didn't shoot King's conclusion as the novel indicated, Kubrick would always respond "it isn't filmable."
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 12:45 AM (q7T0y)

And see the Shining is a good horror movie. It is tense. It is filmed well and spookily. The music is well done. The ending is... different (the bear suit guy.) Still, worlds better than the tv mini-series which was supposed to be truer to King's 'vision'.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 12:48 AM (3ZoRf)

295 As a movie with a story: I think it kind of fails to meet the bar of enjoyable entertainment.
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Agreed. Pointlessly tedious and obtuse.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 12:49 AM (J3phO)

296 They call them terrestrial gamma ray flashes. Up to 20MeV or so. They first discovered them in the early 90s with satellites (Military may have known it about them long before). Turned out it was thunderstorms doing it.

There's a mechanism called "dark lightning", a "silent discharge" of the field of a thundercloud, and that event is the main gamma source, IIRC.

It's still all in the open, though.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 04, 2016 12:50 AM (DW+jj)

297 John Wayne agreed with you. He walked out on the screening he was attending.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 04, 2016 12:48 AM (R+30W)

I love that guy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 12:50 AM (3ZoRf)

298 Roy Cleveland Sullivan was a United States park ranger in Shenandoah National Park in Virginia. Between 1942 and 1977, Sullivan was hit by lightning on seven different occasions and survived all of them.

Dedication to ones profession, I reckon.

Met a guy once who swears he got hit twice in less than a minute. The scars from the discharge kinda validate his story.

Happy INDEPENDENCE Day Horde oh' Plenty. 240 years later, still the BEST Country on Earth

Posted by: Hillbillyking at July 04, 2016 12:50 AM (ayGCF)

299 278
So when watching 2001, how many skip the apes in Africa and go straight to the Pan-Am shuttle?


Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 12:41 AM (V/vW+)


And miss the only major role for a tapir in a motion picture?!?!?

Posted by: cthulhu at July 04, 2016 12:51 AM (EzgxV)

300 Dave's killing off the suspended animation astronauts.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 12:52 AM (J3phO)

301
Our flagpole is topped with a brass toilet tank float.
Posted by: Mike Hammer


Those have been used on antennas as well.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 12:52 AM (IqV8l)

302 And miss the only major role for a tapir in a motion picture?!?!?

Hey what about the tapir in "Apocalypto". What's he? Chopped liver?

Oh wait...

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 12:53 AM (6FqZa)

303 2001 has the most spare story arc ever once you skip the apes.

Bowman is sent on a mission to explore with Poole but not told everything. HAL knows everything but can't tell Bowman and Poole. So HAL becomes the obstacle/nemesis that the Hero Bowman must overcome. And in the end, the hero is changed by his adventure.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 12:53 AM (V/vW+)

304 bth, yup. King always called Kubrick's The Shining "a great big beautiful Cadillac with the motor yanked out so you can't go anywhere."

Anna, also yup. Also I'd bet money Kubrick would have at least tried to make a kick-ass 9/11 film.

Aetius, yup, yup yup. :-) SK, while making films, would often ask himself: "okay, it's real, but is it interesting?"

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 12:53 AM (q7T0y)

305 Jesus, I wonder if there is a book length version oral history of Die Hard. I'd read it.

A couple years back at the NRA annual convention, some of us failed to bootleg enough tickets to a high end cigar and booze reception. So we end up jammed up in a room at the Hyatt at one in the morning, smoking and drinking. And on one of the cable channels, Die Hard is just coming on.

One of the guys in there was Mike Papac. Mike owns Cinema Weaponry in Hollywood. Cinema Weaponry was made out of the old Stembridge Gun Rentals when Stembridge retired. Papac had been the set armorer on Die Hard when they made the movie, Stembridge had rented the guns, and he had hilarious commentary as it is running through.

Interesting trivia. Same Beretta 92 was carried by Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapon and by Bruce Willis in Die Hard. Stembridge only had so many of the things as they went in and out. Mike still has the rental slips. Think the pistol is still on loan at the NRA National Firearms Museum though.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at July 04, 2016 12:53 AM (kapIh)

306 Ooops. Dave can't get back in.

Dave's not here.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 12:54 AM (J3phO)

307 As a movie with a story: I think it kind of fails to meet the bar of enjoyable entertainment.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 12:41 AM (3ZoRf)


Just like the book. Arthur Clarke showed what a crock the book was with his 2010 piece of shit. The visuals of the movie saved the whole thing. Otherwise, 2001 was just another crappy sci-fi story that had no real point and no ending.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 04, 2016 12:54 AM (mBYZv)

308 Ooops. Dave can't get back in.
Dave's not here.


Mike, LOL. Sounds like the Seinfeld version of 2001. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 12:54 AM (q7T0y)

309 302
And miss the only major role for a tapir in a motion picture?!?!?



Hey what about the tapir in "Apocalypto". What's he? Chopped liver?



Oh wait...

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 12:53 AM (6FqZa)


I never saw "Apocalypto" -- seriously, a tapir got some airtime in that flick?

Posted by: cthulhu at July 04, 2016 12:55 AM (EzgxV)

310 265 So a classic Franklin rod has a one inch spherical head?

If you went around inquiring of any decent Parisian brothel at the time, you could probably have found out.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 12:36 AM (6FqZa)



Check with the older whores though. Franklin was a fan of the mature ladies.

Posted by: buzzion at July 04, 2016 12:55 AM (bMG0w)

311 Can you imagine the Big Bang crew trying to remake 2001...

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 12:55 AM (V/vW+)

312 true story:

several years ago in the process of doing business i met a young woman who had not seen "die hard". i was dumbfounded. stunned. how could you not have seen "die hard". and it struck me as somehow being a bit un-American. so i told her in no uncertain terms to that night rent it. and she said she would.

she was as stunned that there was any expectoration that she see it. never crossed her mind. then it struck me - she lives in a parallel universe. women and men live side by side but in separate worlds, at times synchronous, at times with common ground, but with entirely different sources and expectations.

let the mirth begin. i can take it. but it was a good reminder.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 04, 2016 12:56 AM (WTSFk)

313 I never saw "Apocalypto" -- seriously, a tapir got some airtime in that flick?

Posted by: cthulhu at July 04, 2016 12:55 AM (EzgxV)


His balls did.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 04, 2016 12:56 AM (mBYZv)

314 I can understand if people aren't crazy about 2001.

Yeah, it's different, it's 'arty,' and if people want to say SK indulged himself too much? I won't argue, the guy *was* probably rather full of himself by that time.

Both Lolita and Dr. Strangelove were hits *and* critically acclaimed, so it wouldn't surprise me if Stanley's head had become a bit inflated.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 12:56 AM (q7T0y)

315 Bowman is sent on a mission to explore with Poole but not told everything. HAL knows everything but can't tell Bowman and Poole. So HAL becomes the obstacle/nemesis that the Hero Bowman must overcome. And in the end, the hero is changed by his adventure.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 12:53 AM (V/vW+)

And you just summed up a story in four sentences that took him over 2 hours to relate in film.

THAT is a fun thing:

Summarize favorite movies in as few words as possible.

Guess the movie:
They killed his dog. He kills them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 12:57 AM (3ZoRf)

316 OK. Thunderclouds producing gamma rays seems rather dodgy, though I've just read about it at Wikipedia... The article there mentions that the clear signature of antimatter has also been detected near thunderclouds. I'm not strong on physics, but this is hard to believe!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 04, 2016 12:57 AM (kP16F)

317 Just saw there is going to be a Lethal Weapon TV show with one of the Wayans brothers playing Murtaugh.
Isn't that one of the signs of the apocalypse?

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 12:57 AM (hVdx9)

318 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at July 04, 2016 12:57 AM (9aYM8)

319 >>>HAL should have had a female voice.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 12:24 AM (IqV8l)


I read a theory once that Kubrick was gay. One of the pieces of "evidence" for this was that HAL sounded like an angry, jilted gay lover.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 04, 2016 12:57 AM (/mnCx)

320 The MILFs. They don't don't tell, they don't swell, and they're grateful as hell.

Early to be on, quick to "rise", makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise (they had to clean that up, but that's what I actually meant!)

Posted by: Ben "Lightning" Franklin at July 04, 2016 12:58 AM (DW+jj)

321 Anna, LOL.

Sheldon would be *so* perfectionistic, even Stanley's ghost would have to come to him in a dream and yell "just get the damn shot!! Let it go!!!" ;-)

(From the beginning of his career, SK had the rep as being completely OCD about every scene, doing take after take after take after take after take.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 12:58 AM (q7T0y)

322 314 I can understand if people aren't crazy about 2001.
Yeah, it's different, it's 'arty,' and if people want to say SK indulged himself too much? I won't argue, the guy *was* probably rather full of himself by that time.
Both Lolita and Dr. Strangelove were hits *and* critically acclaimed, so it wouldn't surprise me if Stanley's head had become a bit inflated.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 12:56 AM (q7T0y)


He did set the standard for special effects in movies. Which lasted all the way up until Star Wars.

Posted by: Maetenloch at July 04, 2016 12:58 AM (wqVD1)

323 Guess the movie:
They killed his dog. He kills them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 12:57 AM (3ZoRf)


John Wick.

Meh.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 04, 2016 12:58 AM (mBYZv)

324 Fun fact about 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Its story covers a greater span of time than any movie ever made.

Prove me wrong.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 04, 2016 12:58 AM (sl+zA)

325 ... and i related this story to a guy who said maybe the women, with their romances and family fare have it right, and we with the action and splosions and longest runways in the world (die hard II) have it wrong. dunno about that, but maybe. we're talking parallel realities here.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 04, 2016 12:59 AM (WTSFk)

326 Aetius, "A Boy And His Dog"??

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 12:59 AM (q7T0y)

327 Those have been used on antennas as well.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.
------------

No doubt. As it happens, the 'flagpole' is actually a 20' Decibel Products antenna mast, salvaged from the local metal yard. Looks/works great, with a marine block mounted at the top.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 12:59 AM (J3phO)

328 Maet, true. In fairness, everything I've seen and read about 2001's incredible effects, however, is a testament to not only Stanley's talent, but the incredible talents of Douglas Trumbull as well.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:00 AM (q7T0y)

329 316. Antimatter? Positrons is what they're talking. Gamma photon turns into an electron-positron pair. This is part of the "dark lightning" discharge mechanism.

There's antimatter all around you all the time. Not much of it, and not too long lived, but it's there.

Posted by: Ben at July 04, 2016 01:00 AM (DW+jj)

330 He did set the standard for special effects in movies. Which lasted all the way up until Star Wars.
Posted by: Maetenloch
----------------

Even today, the special effects, sets, instruments are very impressive.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 01:01 AM (J3phO)

331 To understand all the hoopla over 2001, you have to keep in mind how revolutionary those special effects were when it was made.

Take that away, and I agree. Meh.

Posted by: AD at July 04, 2016 01:02 AM (0qeHl)

332 Sock got taken half off somehow. Don't ask me.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 04, 2016 01:02 AM (DW+jj)

333 I think I just chemjeff'd a tri-tip.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 04, 2016 01:02 AM (EzgxV)

334 [2001']s story covers a greater span of time than any movie ever made.

History Of The World Part 1 got it beat, slightly, because the Jews In Space have laser cannon.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 01:02 AM (6FqZa)

335 325 ... and i related this story to a guy who said maybe the women, with their romances and family fare have it right, and we with the action and splosions and longest runways in the world (die hard II) have it wrong. dunno about that, but maybe. we're talking parallel realities here.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 04, 2016 12:59 AM (WTSFk)

The runways in the Fast and Furious movies put Die Hard to shame.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 01:02 AM (3ZoRf)

336 And because Trumbull later said, "Hey I can do the rings of Saturn!" that the ark ship Vally Forge and its companion ships were sent to Saturn.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:03 AM (V/vW+)

337
Dave? What are you doing Dave?
I really think I'm entitled to an answer to that question.

Posted by: HAL at July 04, 2016 01:03 AM (J3phO)

338 1971 Andromeda Strain had some pretty impressive sets except for some computer screens.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 01:04 AM (IqV8l)

339 Bertram, oh yeah.

Remember the DOS computer screens in Alien?

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:04 AM (q7T0y)

340 @305

Plus 1, Excellent.

Posted by: Hillbillyking at July 04, 2016 01:04 AM (ayGCF)

341 Guess the movie:
They killed his dog. He kills them.


Posted by: Aetius451AD
****

There was another movie with such a theme. A hit man successfully does a job for someone. Two dirty cops are to pick him up and get him out of the city.
The gangster who "owns" the cops tells them to kill the hit man (when he should not have). The hit man gets away. Later at his hotel they try to kill him again, and fail again. However, they kill his beloved dog.
He then goes on a rampage of revenge.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 01:04 AM (hVdx9)

342 I read a theory once that Kubrick was gay.

From what I know of Kubrick, if he was gay, gay has a very different definition than I thought it did.

Posted by: AD at July 04, 2016 01:04 AM (0qeHl)

343 326 Aetius, "A Boy And His Dog"??
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 12:59 AM (q7T0y)

That is more:
World blows up.
Women want boy for making babies.
Boy and Dog engage in cannibalism.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 01:05 AM (3ZoRf)

344 Western varmint Bruce Dern in space!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 01:05 AM (IqV8l)

345 Aetius, so it's a fun-filled romp for the whole family. Gotcha. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:06 AM (q7T0y)

346 Its story covers a greater span of time than any movie ever made.

Prove me wrong.


By Asimov's whiskers, nearly had it.

"...New Line Cinema had spent $1.5 million developing a film version of the Foundation Trilogy."

Posted by: derit at July 04, 2016 01:06 AM (ewfUZ)

347 Guess the movie:
They killed his dog. He kills them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 12:57 AM (3ZoRf)


Riddick ?

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 04, 2016 01:06 AM (AoK0a)

348 Who knows, but I don't think Kubrick was gay.

He went through three wives, in fact.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:07 AM (q7T0y)

349 317 Just saw there is going to be a Lethal Weapon TV show with one of the Wayans brothers playing Murtaugh.
Isn't that one of the signs of the apocalypse?

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 12:57 AM (hVdx9)



They already cancelled the Rush Hour TV series and that's a "fresher" franchise. I think part of why Limitless did well is because they aren't really adapting the movie into a show on that. They just put the show in the world the movie created. Lethal Weapon and Rush Hour, they are taking the film and characters and putting them into the show. And you are constantly left with "that's not Mel Gibson, that's not Jackie Chan" going through your head.

Posted by: buzzion at July 04, 2016 01:07 AM (bMG0w)

350 Fun fact about 2001: A Space Odyssey.



Its story covers a greater span of time than any movie ever made.



Prove me wrong.




Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 04, 2016 12:58 AM



Creature From The Black Lagoon.

Posted by: otho at July 04, 2016 01:07 AM (EWg9n)

351 That was one of the things Clarke said he nixed on 2001 was the propulsion system for Discovery is nuclear which would have required large cooling vanes. The reason he nixed the cooling vanes was on the grounds of 'how do we explain that a spaceship needs wings?'

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:07 AM (V/vW+)

352 If only the designers of MRI's would've included a HAL like red eye in the tube.....

Posted by: Hillbillyking at July 04, 2016 01:08 AM (ayGCF)

353 The reason he nixed the cooling vanes was on the grounds of 'how do we explain that a spaceship needs wings?'


Explain to who?

Posted by: George Lucas at July 04, 2016 01:08 AM (sl+zA)

354 332 Sock got taken half off somehow. Don't ask me.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 04, 2016 01:02 AM (DW+jj)


Certain punctuations in the name spot will clear anything out behind them after one use. Quotation marks are one of those.

Posted by: buzzion at July 04, 2016 01:09 AM (bMG0w)

355 The little girl Haywood Floyd talks to in 2001 that wants a bushbaby for her birthday present is Kubrick's daughter.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:09 AM (V/vW+)

356

Fun fact about 2001: A Space Odyssey.
Its story covers a greater span of time than any movie ever made.
Prove me wrong.



Intro to The Big Bang Theory covers 14 billion years.

Posted by: Arbalest at July 04, 2016 01:10 AM (FlRtG)

357 Its story covers a greater span of time than any movie ever made.

Hang on... "Sound of Thunder". Think about it

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 01:10 AM (6FqZa)

358 344 Western varmint Bruce Dern in space!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 01:05 AM (IqV8l)

++++

Western varmint goes eco-weenie.
Silent Running.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 04, 2016 01:10 AM (R+30W)

359 I actually just ordered Silent Running and the Getaway from Amazon.

Yep, you guys are really influencing my film collection. Thanks. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:11 AM (q7T0y)

360 With a Joan Baez soundtrack... just imagine if Yoko Ono had contributed a song or two...

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:11 AM (V/vW+)

361 I think Silent Running was actually directed by Trumbull. He obviously got a big career kick out of doing the effects for 2001.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:11 AM (q7T0y)

362 He then goes on a rampage of revenge.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 01:04 AM (hVdx9)

Hmmm, Leon (or the Professional?) Wait, did he have a plant, not a dog?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 01:11 AM (3ZoRf)

363
I actually just ordered Silent Running and the Getaway from Amazon.



Yep, you guys are really influencing my film collection. Thanks. :-)





Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:11 AM



Good choices!

Posted by: otho at July 04, 2016 01:12 AM (EWg9n)

364 Bradbury, 'Sound of Thunder' time travel and dinosaurs.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:12 AM (V/vW+)

365 They already cancelled the Rush Hour TV series and that's a "fresher" franchise. I think part of why Limitless did well is because they aren't really adapting the movie into a show on that. They just put the show in the world the movie created. Lethal Weapon and Rush Hour, they are taking the film and characters and putting them into the show. And you are constantly left with "that's not Mel Gibson, that's not Jackie Chan" going through your head.

Posted by: buzzion
****

The only thing I thought was, "that's not worth my time."

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 01:12 AM (hVdx9)

366
Speaking of charge dissipation the Juno probe is gonna hit Jupiter tomorrow and try to gather as much data as it can before it gets destroyed by Jupiter's magnetic field.
So much pressure that it has a massive anount of metallic hydrogen which makes a field like a sonovabitch. Which will fry all the electronics on the probe hopefully later than sooner.
One of my student's fathers is the project manager @ JPL

Posted by: MAx at July 04, 2016 01:12 AM (0uuiT)

367 otho, thanks. You posted something else earlier (yesterday's ONT?) also that I wanted to respond to, but now I forget what it was. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:12 AM (q7T0y)

368

HAL's watchful red eye is a symbol of sinister AI from the past. It's getting dated, I think. I propose Microsoft's 'Tay' as HAL's replacement...

http://preview.tinyurl.com/gurubf2

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 04, 2016 01:13 AM (kP16F)

369 Anna, yeesh.

By the way, does anyone else remember the 'experimental' pop artist of the 1980s, Laurie Anderson?

I know she did some really interesting stuff with special audio effects and her synthesizer, making herself sound like a man and other stuff.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:14 AM (q7T0y)

370 I bet Ben Kingsley wishes he had that "ASoT" time machine so he could advise himself not to appear in it.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 01:15 AM (6FqZa)

371 359 I actually just ordered Silent Running and the Getaway from Amazon.

Yep, you guys are really influencing my film collection. Thanks. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:11 AM (q7T0y)

++++

The Getaway with McQueen or Alec Baldwin? I hope you went with the Steve McQueen one. Classic!

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 04, 2016 01:15 AM (R+30W)

372 Anon, the 1972 McQueen directed by Sam Peckinpah.

Find myself more and more interested in Peckinpah, who I think could be called Kubrick (or John Ford) with a hopeless drinking/drug problem.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:16 AM (q7T0y)

373 MAx : Juno is supposed to tell us if Jupiter has a core or not. That is - if it's truly a gas giant like Saturn, or a really small brown dwarf

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 01:16 AM (6FqZa)

374 That was one of the things Clarke said he nixed on 2001 was the propulsion system for Discovery is nuclear which would have required large cooling vanes. The reason he nixed the cooling vanes was on the grounds of 'how do we explain that a spaceship needs wings?'

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:07 AM (V/vW+)


There's no known method of "nuclear propulsion" other than tossing nuclear bombs out the back and blowing them up behind the craft. No need for colling vanes with that, though a really tough posterior helps.

I'm not sure what Clarke and Kubrick could have been talking about. I don't think either of them had any idea what the actual story of the movie was supposed to be. Clarke refused to write a full story and Kubrick was happy to film the partial tale.

In the end, if you look at 2001 you realize that there was no point to any of it. The silly stuff at the end is just a big brain fart from Clarke because he had no idea how to answer any of the questions he raised in the story. Not a one. So he just took the whole story on an acid trip for the last 10 minutes.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 04, 2016 01:16 AM (ZKlDy)

375 Laurie Anderson huh?

https://youtu.be/mrb7x1nDxvw

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:16 AM (V/vW+)

376 370 I bet Ben Kingsley wishes he had that "ASoT" time machine so he could advise himself not to appear in it.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 01:15 AM (6FqZa)

One of the only things I liked about Iron Man 3 was Ben Kingsley. It tickles me that the role probably matches most actors.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 01:16 AM (3ZoRf)

377 He then goes on a rampage of revenge.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 01:04 AM (hVdx9)

Hmmm, Leon (or the Professional?) Wait, did he have a plant, not a dog?


Posted by: Aetius451AD
****

What is annoying me is that I cannot remember the name of the movie or the main character.
The gangster guy who told the dirty cops to kill the hit man was black, and considered himself a renaissance man. "He was on a renaissance trip."
The dog was old and decrepit, but he LOVED the dog.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 01:17 AM (hVdx9)

378 Aetius, Kingsley seems like a genuinely decent guy (even if he is, as I've read, another liberal).

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:17 AM (q7T0y)

379
With a Joan Baez soundtrack... just imagine if Yoko Ono had contributed a song or two...





Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:11 AM


That would have been awesome and fitting. If I ever get the influence, I'd see to it that the horrid Baez tracks are stripped from SR. I'd replace them with some classic Yoko experimental stuff, but, I wouldn't want to go full Lucas.

Posted by: otho at July 04, 2016 01:18 AM (EWg9n)

380 366

Speaking of charge dissipation the Juno probe is gonna hit Jupiter
tomorrow and try to gather as much data as it can before it gets
destroyed by Jupiter's magnetic field.
So much pressure that it has a
massive anount of metallic hydrogen which makes a field like a
sonovabitch. Which will fry all the electronics on the probe hopefully
later than sooner.
One of my student's fathers is the project manager @ JPL

Posted by: MAx at July 04, 2016 01:12 AM (0uuiT)


I heard a piece on NPR about Juno. They armored the shit out of her....we'll see how well that works.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 04, 2016 01:18 AM (EzgxV)

381 @341

"Ted"/"Neo" gets even.

The action scenes are superbly well done.

Effective/Offensive CQB handgun.

Posted by: Hillbillyking at July 04, 2016 01:18 AM (ayGCF)

382 Or Cortana's blue rings...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 04, 2016 01:18 AM (kP16F)

383 Primordial, would have to rummage in the book stacks to find Clarke's Lost Worlds of 2001 and then find where I remember that statement from.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:19 AM (V/vW+)

384 Surprised that Yes didn't do the soundtrack to Silent Running. They were already into all the eco-stuff by 1972...

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:19 AM (q7T0y)

385 The sequined owl on Hannah Cohen's shirt?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 04, 2016 01:21 AM (kP16F)

386 And if you want Eve, there is always Megazone 23 about a generation ship where the inhabitants are kept from the truth they are in a spaceship.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:22 AM (V/vW+)

387 Anna, sounds kind of like THX 1138. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:23 AM (q7T0y)

388 Primordial, would have to rummage in the book stacks to find Clarke's Lost Worlds of 2001 and then find where I remember that statement from.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:19 AM (V/vW+)


I don't doubt you. I'm just saying that no one really knows how to use nuclear power to propel a spaceship. Containing nuclear explosions is sorta dicey (which is why you have to toss the nuke bombs out the back and let them explode) so if one is to propose such a fantastical thing in a movie (a fiction one, granted) then why would they feel constrained by old fashioned cooling fins? It's a funny idea, really ... and I have no doubt that they actually spent time very seriously going over these cooling fins and why "they have to be there".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 04, 2016 01:24 AM (ZKlDy)

389 369 Anna, yeesh.

By the way, does anyone else remember the 'experimental' pop artist of the 1980s, Laurie Anderson?

I know she did some really interesting stuff with special audio effects and her synthesizer, making herself sound like a man and other stuff.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:14 AM (q7T0y)


She had a couple of good albums back in the 80s.

I was surprised to learn that she was married to Lou Reed at the time of his death.

Posted by: rickl at July 04, 2016 01:24 AM (sdi6R)

390 What sounds like THX-1138?

Lauri Anderson, 2001, or Megazone 23?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:24 AM (V/vW+)

391 Call me a heretic, but even seeing the Cold War agitprop in it by Clarke, 2010 is still a more enjoyable movie than 2001. Then again I am a Roy Scheider fan.

And Clarke was just one more fucking pedo in the sci fi pantheon. Roster's full of them.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at July 04, 2016 01:25 AM (kapIh)

392 Anna, Megazone 23. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:26 AM (q7T0y)

393 Worst task lighting ever. Hello infinity headaches

Posted by: derit at July 04, 2016 01:26 AM (ewfUZ)

394 One of the fun things about THX 1138, is imagining George Lucas as an "angry young man." Which he's said he actually was then.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:27 AM (q7T0y)

395 Kurnow, "How do you say chicken in Russian?"

Yakoff Smirnov, "Easy as cake."

Floyd and Kurnow on baseball - something about the Astrodome and the dogs have been broiling since July or something.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:28 AM (V/vW+)

396 394 One of the fun things about THX 1138, is imagining George Lucas as an "angry young man." Which he's said he actually was then.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:27 AM (q7T0y)

He is kind of a giant man-baby now- with 4 million dollars.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 01:28 AM (3ZoRf)

397 2010 had it's good moments. The political stuff aside, it contains some cool sequences and well done scenes, overall. But, the story is clunky and doesn't overcome those shortcomings the way 2001 does. Bottom line it's just meh... which is not what you want with a 2001 sequel.

Posted by: otho at July 04, 2016 01:30 AM (EWg9n)

398 I remember having arguments with people about Snowden. Some folks labeled him an American hero but never quite discussed him exposing American intelligence and going to Russia which never made much sense to me.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 04, 2016 01:31 AM (R5HRU)

399 Aetius, only $4 million? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:31 AM (q7T0y)

400 Hyams just wasn't up to the task, visually/directing.

Posted by: otho at July 04, 2016 01:31 AM (EWg9n)

401 otho, exactly re Hyams.

I've tried to watch 2010, can't get past the first 15 minutes.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:32 AM (q7T0y)

402 So the obelisk is hardened space baby poo. It all makes sense

Posted by: derit at July 04, 2016 01:32 AM (ewfUZ)

403 399 Aetius, only $4 million? ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:31 AM (q7T0y)

I ref the $4 million simply because he seems to be squirming. I think HE considers it his 30 pieces of silver. Considering how liberal George is, I expect it twists in his gut.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 01:33 AM (3ZoRf)

404 394 One of the fun things about THX 1138, is imagining George Lucas as an "angry young man." Which he's said he actually was then.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:27 AM (q7T0y)

Trivia tidbit; In the Lucas directed American Graffiti, the license plate on Paul LeMat's Deuce Coupe was THX 1138

Posted by: kbdabear at July 04, 2016 01:33 AM (KXm98)

405 otho, exactly re Hyams.



I've tried to watch 2010, can't get past the first 15 minutes.




Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:32 AM


Best parts are the Jupiter slingshot and the spacewalk to the Discovery sequences. Those are pretty good. The rest of the film suffers from really quite unimaginative scene construction and shots.

Posted by: otho at July 04, 2016 01:34 AM (EWg9n)

406 kbdabear, I remember that although I believe the plate actually reads THX 138 (Lucas omitted one of the ones).

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:34 AM (q7T0y)

407 Then there is Interstellar which might have been excellent but I think it suffered an overdoses of messages delivered in a not great way. And the quantum room where he was akin to a ghost as an analog to Bowman in the hotel room really stunk. And his AI helper was not much better, would take Dern's droids over those jokers any day.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:35 AM (V/vW+)

408 I thought Disney's "white slavers" gave Lucas 4 billion with a b.

Having seen that miscarriage from a mutated skunk that was "The Force Awakens", I'm actually sympathetic to Lucas now. 4 billion is a high price for a soul, even Lucas's, but he's got to realise it wasn't worth it.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 01:36 AM (6FqZa)

409 407 Then there is Interstellar which might have been excellent but I think it suffered an overdoses of messages delivered in a not great way. And the quantum room where he was akin to a ghost as an analog to Bowman in the hotel room really stunk. And his AI helper was not much better, would take Dern's droids over those jokers any day.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:35 AM (V/vW+)

Interstellar was damned interesting. There are a lot of visuals in that that I really liked (the black hole, the wave on the planet.) I think the stuff back home (what exactly was Casey Afflecks problem?) and the ending (the need to 2001ize it) kind of taint it for me.

The robots? *sigh* I can understand they wante to do something different, but for goodness sake, come up with something more practical looking!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 01:38 AM (3ZoRf)

410 Then there is Interstellar which might have been excellent but I think it suffered an overdoses of messages delivered in a not great way. And the quantum room where he was akin to a ghost as an analog to Bowman in the hotel room really stunk. And his AI helper was not much better, would take Dern's droids over those jokers any day.


Posted by: Anna Puma
****

Interstellar insisted upon itself.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 01:38 AM (hVdx9)

411 1971 Andromeda Strain had some pretty impressive sets except for some computer screens.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 01:04 AM (IqV8l)


The technology was plausible, and it isn't dated like so many other movies because it still looks like something they could have had.

Posted by: The Andromeda Hat at July 04, 2016 01:38 AM (vBeA5)

412 There was the scene where Dave breaks back in to Discovery. He blows the hatch on the pod, which launches him into the airlock (which could be opened from the outside.

He then, in vacuum hits the close and repressurize button.

I remember reading how they wanted to get that close to right. In vacuum, you'd have only about 10 - 15 seconds of consciousness. You don't blow up (unless you tried to hold your breath, which you couldn't do), at least very soon.

They wanted to make that close to accurate, and that's what they came up with up. The odds of a man being exposed to vacuum and pulling that off, I don't know.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 04, 2016 01:38 AM (DW+jj)

413 Cameron really has no room to kvetch about originality and such when he is going to inflict upon the public two more Smurfs in Space movies while ignoring Battle Angel Alita that he has kept in production limbo for a decade and counting.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:39 AM (V/vW+)

414 408 I thought Disney's "white slavers" gave Lucas 4 billion with a b.

Having seen that miscarriage from a mutated skunk that was "The Force Awakens", I'm actually sympathetic to Lucas now. 4 billion is a high price for a soul, even Lucas's, but he's got to realise it wasn't worth it.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 01:36 AM (6FqZa)

You are right. Billion with a b.

Lucas deserves absolutely no sympathy after the trailer fire of a toy selling gambit that was the prequels.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 01:40 AM (3ZoRf)

415 Kurnow, "How do you say chicken in Russian?"

eta kuur des may ...

not sure which word.

{Simon Tam, Serenity}

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 04, 2016 01:40 AM (AoK0a)

416 BTW, the Initiative to require condom use for porn stars in California is apparently back on the ballot as Prop. 60.

It'll drive the porn industry out of California.

The Progressive Left: Doing what the religious right never could.

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 04, 2016 01:41 AM (vBeA5)

417 Article in the NYT about "Obama After Dark." (I.e., what he likes to do when he's alone at night in the oval office.)

Top 3 takeaways of what he likes to do:

- Mark up policy proposals

- Smoke Cuban cigars

- Slide and dance around on the wooden floor to Bob Seger's "Old Time Rock And Roll" clad only in a pair of Michelle's polka dot panties

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:41 AM (q7T0y)

418 408 I thought Disney's "white slavers" gave Lucas 4 billion with a b.

Having seen that miscarriage from a mutated skunk that was "The Force Awakens", I'm actually sympathetic to Lucas now. 4 billion is a high price for a soul, even Lucas's, but he's got to realise it wasn't worth it.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 01:36 AM (6FqZa)



Better than any of the prequels.

Lucas is a bitter old trans-pelican that still thinks stepping in poop is high grade comedy.

Posted by: buzzion at July 04, 2016 01:41 AM (bMG0w)

419 413 Cameron really has no room to kvetch about originality and such when he is going to inflict upon the public two more Smurfs in Space movies while ignoring Battle Angel Alita that he has kept in production limbo for a decade and counting.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:39 AM (V/vW+)

I heard 4 sequels somewhere (here?) Misheard, or hyperbole?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 01:41 AM (3ZoRf)

420 True fact about Interstellar: the computer models that were used for the black hole Gargantua's appearance ended up in a peer-reviewed astrophysical journal. There was real science there.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 01:41 AM (6FqZa)

421 Is this Prop 60 going to include the "dental dams" and the "safety goggles" (for when certain bodily fluids sort of spurt out all over everything)?

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 04, 2016 01:43 AM (DW+jj)

422 Cameron really has no room to kvetch about originality and such when he is going to inflict upon the public two more Smurfs in Space movies while ignoring Battle Angel Alita that he has kept in production limbo for a decade and counting.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:39 AM (V/vW+)


Cameron is producing, and they are moving ahead with a different director.

Shutter Island's Laeta Kalogridis has penned a script for the project.

Robert Rodriguez (El Mariachi, Once Upon a Time in Mexico, Sin City, Spy Kids) is in negotiations to direct the film.

Rosa Salazar (Maze Runner: The Scorch Trials, The Divergent Series: Insurgent, Man Seeking Woman) has been cast in the lead role

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hx4ptcc

Posted by: The Cybord Hat at July 04, 2016 01:44 AM (vBeA5)

423 Buckaroo Bonzai II ...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 04, 2016 01:45 AM (AoK0a)

424 And how much garbage is currently published in peer reviewed journals?

And Cameron claimed to have given plenty of thought to the flora and fauna of Avatar. So we see everything in the fauna department is hexapedal... except the one intelligent race which is basically blue elongated human with a tail.

Then I remember they claimed in the trailer how scientifically accurate Robinson Caruso on Mars was...

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:46 AM (V/vW+)

425 Robert Rodriguez (El Mariachi, Once Upon a Time in Mexico, Sin City, Spy Kids) is in negotiations to direct the film.

Rosa Salazar (Maze Runner: The Scorch Trials, The Divergent Series: Insurgent, Man Seeking Woman) has been cast in the lead role

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hx4ptcc
Posted by: The Cybord Hat at July 04, 2016 01:44 AM (vBeA5)

Robert Rodriguez huh? Well, that could be interesting. Cannot see it as anything more than Pocahontas in Space, but you never know.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 01:47 AM (3ZoRf)

426 except the one intelligent race which is basically blue elongated human with a tail.



Which they stick in everything I'm told. I don't know. I never cared to watch it.

Posted by: buzzion at July 04, 2016 01:47 AM (bMG0w)

427 359 I actually just ordered Silent Running and the Getaway from Amazon.

Yep, you guys are really influencing my film collection. Thanks. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve


I know a really really annoying guy whose specialty is literally "the history of the environmentalist movement" with an emphasis on "media representations." So one day recently I asked him how important did he think Silent Running was to changing people's attitudes.

His answer?

He had never heard of it.

I was actually quite shocked.

I explained the film to him in detail, and...his response?

He denied that such a film could exist since he would have heard of it, and accused me of just pulling his leg with an unfunny prank.

Young people today are two things:

1. Uneducated in the extreme; and
2. Assholes.

Posted by: zombie at July 04, 2016 01:49 AM (jBuUi)

428 @416 the religious right would seek to end it directly. The left smothers it slowly by regulating it to death. To the religious right, that would feel too much like tacit approval of it within certain limits. Hence they'd be too high minded to extinguish it by that route.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 04, 2016 01:50 AM (/mnCx)

429 zombie, LOL.

"So, what did you think of Silent Running?"

"Cool song by Mike and the Mechanics!!"

:-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:51 AM (q7T0y)

430

Cameron really has no room to kvetch about originality and such when he used the plot from Duck Dodgers in the 24-1/2 Century for his interpretation of The Smurfs, without credit.

Posted by: Arbalest at July 04, 2016 01:51 AM (FlRtG)

431 Aetius, because Cameron has dragged his feet so long on Alita, the Matt Damon movie Elysium with its posh floating island over a planetary junkyard will immediately leap to mind even though Tipharanes and the Junkyard has existed in GUNM since 1990.

I hope Rosa is up to the task of playing Gally. River Tam's actress would have been a natural.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:51 AM (V/vW+)

432 Robinson Caruso
Posted by: Anna Puma


That gives me a really great idea for a short story:

"An Italian opera singer washes up on a desert island...."

Posted by: zombie at July 04, 2016 01:51 AM (jBuUi)

433 I hope Rosa is up to the task of playing Gally. River Tam's actress would have been a natural.


Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:51 AM (V/vW+)



Summer Glau needs to do another series that gets cancelled so she can become even hotter.

Posted by: buzzion at July 04, 2016 01:52 AM (bMG0w)

434 Drape a rubber over the web cams--loop hole!

Posted by: derit at July 04, 2016 01:53 AM (ewfUZ)

435 #388

Nuclear power and nuclear explosions are very different things. Designs for nuclear propulsion have been around since the 60s. Not just concepts but serious proposals. They never got built thanks to the usual gang of hand wringers.


Posted by: Epobirs at July 04, 2016 01:53 AM (IdCqF)

436 zombie, there are no words to describe such idiocy except to ask were you talking to Ezra Klein?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:54 AM (V/vW+)

437 Then I remember they claimed in the trailer how scientifically accurate Robinson Caruso on Mars was...


Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:46 AM (V/vW+)



Did he Science the shit out of anything?

Posted by: Matt Damon at July 04, 2016 01:54 AM (bMG0w)

438 I hope Rosa is up to the task of playing Gally. River Tam's actress would have been a natural.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:51 AM (V/vW+)

Ah, you all are talking about a movie other than Avatar sequels. More Summer Glau is always a good thing. Or would have been.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 01:54 AM (3ZoRf)

439 436 zombie, there are no words to describe such idiocy except to ask were you talking to Ezra Klein?
Posted by: Anna Puma


No, just to the husband of a friend of mine. I've ranted about him here so many times in the past that by now I just spare everyone the details. He's like the emperor of hypocritical smug misinformed environmentalists climate change activists.

Posted by: zombie at July 04, 2016 01:56 AM (jBuUi)

440 More 'science' than you Matt did when you were stuck on Mars.

Anyway, time to scoot and bang on the keyboard some. Because of work today, about 700 words short of where I need to be to start Day 4.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:56 AM (V/vW+)

441 Young people today are two things:

1. Uneducated in the extreme; and
2. Assholes.

Posted by: zombie
****

I work with a number of them. Two major traits I have noticed:

1) Extremely high and unearned self esteem

2) Not terribly bright

Yes there are exceptions, but they are called exceptions for a reason.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 01:56 AM (hVdx9)

442 So nobody liked my Obama joke above, huh? Tough crowd.

Okay, gonna call it a night everyone, and of course I hope everyone's ID4 weekend continues unabated and that *no one here* has to actually work tomorrow. Have a great Independence Day, and thanks yet again for the great chat!!

And of course, will be happy to share my reviews of The Getaway and Silent Running once they arrive and I can watch them. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 04, 2016 01:57 AM (q7T0y)

443 Is this Prop 60 going to include the "dental dams" and the "safety goggles" (for when certain bodily fluids sort of spurt out all over everything)?

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 04, 2016 01:43 AM (DW+jj)


Not explicity, but it does say that Cal-OSHA can that "any other reasonable STI prevention engineering controls and work practice controls as required by regulations adopted by the Board through the Administrative Rulemaking process".

Full text of the initiative is here:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hek4k9v

Of note, it looks like Cal-OSHA already has the power to do all of this, but just isn't bein explicitly forced to enforce it yet:

"In fact, state occupational health regulations already call on all employers to prevent their workers from being exposed to blood, semen and saliva in the course of their job - and regulators have interpreted that to mean that porn actors must use condoms. But the rules are routinely ignored, and the state doesn't have the staff to inspect film sets, which, by the very nature of the business, are often in under-the-radar locations such as homes."

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zfzklk3

Posted by: Hat-chika-wa-wa at July 04, 2016 01:57 AM (vBeA5)

444 Epobirs is dead right:

Look up the original Project Orion, or, for an evil use of the tech, Project Pluto.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 04, 2016 01:58 AM (+d92h)

445 Idea for a Trump ad: Trump as David Bowman dismantling the HAL 9000, who sounds like Obama. Trump pulls out modules labelled "Obamacare", "EPA regulations", "unrestricted immigration", "activist judges", etc. while Obama sings "Daisy, Daisy ..."

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 04, 2016 01:58 AM (/mnCx)

446 I work with a number of them. Two major traits I have noticed:
-------------

3. Not well educated.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 01:58 AM (RrDm2)

447 I know a really really annoying guy whose specialty
is literally "the history of the environmentalist movement" with an
emphasis on "media representations." So one day recently I asked him how
important did he think Silent Running was to changing people's attitudes.



His answer?



He had never heard of it.



I was actually quite shocked.



I explained the film to him in detail, and...his response?



He denied that such a film could exist since he would have heard of it, and accused me of just pulling his leg with an unfunny prank.



Young people today are two things:



1. Uneducated in the extreme; and

2. Assholes.




Posted by: zombie at July 04, 2016 01:49 AM


I have known more than a few enviro activist types over the years and discovered that SR is not universally loved among those that have seen it. Their complaint is that Dern/Lowell is portrayed as a bit of a nutjob and an asshole (he is)... and that the movie does not make any attempt to explain the background nor point any fingers. They're right. You are given a brief setup, no why's or wherefores, just the situation Lowell finds himself in. All you get is that the program is too expensive and nobody cares.

Posted by: otho at July 04, 2016 01:59 AM (EWg9n)

448 Droogs would make for fine TSA timber

Posted by: derit at July 04, 2016 01:59 AM (ewfUZ)

449 Oh, great. 'A Clockwork Orange' is now on.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 02:00 AM (RrDm2)

450

Zombie:

"He's like the emperor of hypocritical smug misinformed environmentalists climate change activists."


So you know Paul Erlich? My condolences ...

Posted by: Arbalest at July 04, 2016 02:00 AM (FlRtG)

451 I work with a number of them. Two major traits I have noticed:

1) Extremely high and unearned self esteem

2) Not terribly bright

Yes there are exceptions, but they are called exceptions for a reason.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 01:56 AM (hVdx9)

I think point 2 is explained better as none of them have ever been taught how to find things out for themselves or problem solve.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 02:00 AM (3ZoRf)

452 #430

More specifically, he directly ripped off 'Call Me Joe' by Poul Anderson. Cameron could easily have thrown a couple million at Anderson's widow Karen just from the change under his couch cushions. But Cameron is an egomaniac who can never acknowledge his sources unless forced to in a court of law, as demonstrated by Harlan Ellison.

I thought Cameron was a jerk before 'Avatar' but his behavior towards Poul Anderson and his estate really made him scum in my eyes. Cameron plainly grew up reading Anderson's work and considering Anderson never really made a decent living from his work, it would have been an especially meaningful gesture for him to throw some cash at Karen.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 04, 2016 02:01 AM (IdCqF)

453 And Cameron claimed to have given plenty of thought to the flora and fauna of Avatar. So we see everything in the fauna department is hexapedal... except the one intelligent race which is basically blue elongated human with a tail.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 01:46 AM (V/vW+)


Reminds me of a manga series called "A Centaur's Life" wherein six-legged amphibians (and thus reptiles, mammals, &c) won the evolutionary race while four-legged critters didn't. They used this as a partial explanation of how humans ened up evolving so many different body forms. Not scientific, of course, but interesting none-the-less

Posted by: The Hexapodal Hat at July 04, 2016 02:02 AM (vBeA5)

454 I think I found the cheese movie to play on the TV while I'm writing - Werewolf Woman.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 02:02 AM (V/vW+)

455 True fact about Interstellar: the computer models that were used for the black hole Gargantua's appearance ended up in a peer-reviewed astrophysical journal. There was real science there.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 01:41 AM (6FqZa)


Well, Kip Thorne was one of the producers (IIRC). That's ten times the reason they had no excuse for a lot of the silly things they did in that movie. A gravitational field that is strong enough to slow local time significantly but humans can still jump around?? And that moronic part at the end ... WTF was that all about?

It SHOULD have been a great movie ... but it wasn't even close.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 04, 2016 02:02 AM (ZKlDy)

456 445 Idea for a Trump ad: Trump as David Bowman dismantling the HAL 9000, who sounds like Obama. Trump pulls out modules labelled "Obamacare", "EPA regulations", "unrestricted immigration", "activist judges", etc. while Obama sings "Daisy, Daisy ..."
Posted by: Yuimetal


That would be absolutely EPIC!

Posted by: zombie at July 04, 2016 02:02 AM (jBuUi)

457 69% of Buddhist identify as Democrat, and I bet 95% of those are white people who culturally appropriated Buddhism.

Posted by: Rbastid at July 04, 2016 02:03 AM (XwTyM)

458 Look up the original Project Orion, or, for an evil use of the tech, Project Pluto.....
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 04, 2016 01:58 AM (+d92h)

Both of these are really cool ideas though.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 02:03 AM (3ZoRf)

459 I work with a number of them. Two major traits I have noticed:

1) Extremely high and unearned self esteem

2) Not terribly bright

Yes there are exceptions, but they are called exceptions for a reason.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 01:56 AM (hVdx9)

I think point 2 is explained better as none of them have ever been taught how to find things out for themselves or problem solve.



Posted by: Aetius451AD
****

And I have found that even when you do teach them, they don't do it. They don't want to. They want everything spoon fed to them.
I am currently in an environment where if you don't do that for them, YOU are the one at fault.
It gets old answering the same exact questions over and over.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 02:04 AM (hVdx9)

460 @398

Snowden had no choice but to "pay for protection" once he made his choice to go public. I like to think he did what he thought was right. Expose the scope and scale of the survailence state to the masses.

Sadly, (for the most part) the masses simply don't give a fuck that they're being monitored without consent. Thats the reality.

At least in his Purgatory he can get laid and get drunk.
Other "Whistleblowers" aren't nearly so fortunate.

If there was an effective mechanism to check the G's buracracy run amok, Snowdens wouldn't happen. But thats fantasy land thinkin.

Between the lightnin, HAL, an ol' Ed, I'm callin it quits.

Watch your fingers when playin with explosives today Horde oh' Plenty.

Happy INDEPENDENCE DAY!!!

Posted by: Hillbillyking at July 04, 2016 02:08 AM (ayGCF)

461 Look up the original Project Orion, or, for an evil use of the tech, Project Pluto.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 04, 2016 01:58 AM (+d92h)


Go read my comment. That was the exact propulsion system I was talking about.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 04, 2016 02:08 AM (ZKlDy)

462 It gets old answering the same exact questions over and over.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 02:04 AM (hVdx9)

At my last job, we sometimes had an extraordinary amount of free time, so I tried to teach the game 20 questions to some of my younger co-workers. First, they had not heard of it (?!?!) Second, they constantly wanted to ask one question, and then proceed to guessing. I kept having to explain to them to narrow it down, work it out...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 02:08 AM (3ZoRf)

463 Aetius - especially Pluto......damn, talk about a weapon of mass destruction - even its propulsion system is deadly.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 04, 2016 02:10 AM (+d92h)

464 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 04, 2016 01:58 AM (+d92h)

Project Orion, I mean. Project Pluto just used a nuclear reactor for heat and heated air ... something that has no use in space propulsion.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 04, 2016 02:10 AM (ZKlDy)

465 It gets old answering the same exact questions over and over.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 02:04 AM (hVdx9)

At my last job, we sometimes had an extraordinary amount of free time, so I tried to teach the game 20 questions to some of my younger co-workers. First, they had not heard of it (?!?!) Second, they constantly wanted to ask one question, and then proceed to guessing. I kept having to explain to them to narrow it down, work it out...


Posted by: Aetius451AD
****

People have become so used to not having to think, they have lost a very basic skill.
I am hardly what one would call a rocket scientist, but compared to too many of my co-workers I might as well be.
On the one hand my job makes me feel much smarter than I actually am, but on the other depresses me terribly.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 02:12 AM (hVdx9)

466 I actually once said in frustration: "This game, in micro, touches on one of the foundational reasons western civilization was such a massive success. And you all suck at it!"

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 02:12 AM (3ZoRf)

467 I think I found the cheese movie to play on the TV while I'm writing - Werewolf Woman.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 02:02 AM (V/vW+)


Argh!

A "werewolf" is by definition a male, because the "were-" means male person.

It's like talking about a male "mermaid"...

A female "werewolf" would be a "wifwolf".

Posted by: The Linguistic Hat at July 04, 2016 02:12 AM (vBeA5)

468 'Deep Impact' was another crapfest that offended me by Spielberg telling the press how scientifically accurate it was.

There was a howler right at the beginning, where Charles Martin Smith spots the comet and determines its intercept course threatening Earth in a way that was simply impossible because he had nowhere near enough data to determine almost anything. (Later, the comet is also detected by amateur astronomer Elijah Wood, in a blatant rip-off of 'Lucifer's Hammer.')

The ship sent to divert the comet is supposed to be an Orion Drive system, but has the exact opposite configuration such a ship should have. Instead it looked much like the ship from '2001:ASO.'

http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/content.asp?Bnum=977

Then, in a suicidal last ditch effort, the ship succeeds in blowing the larger comet fragment to small bits. One problem: this is done so close tot he planet that the bulk of those fragment would rain down on the planet and do nearly as much damage to the biosphere. Everybody dies, even if they survived the mega-tsunami from the other fragment.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 04, 2016 02:14 AM (IdCqF)

469

Nuclear propulsion for space flight ...

I had always assumed this would be a nuclear reactor powering a matrix (e.g. 10x10) of particle accelerators (linear or cyclotron, whichever gives a cooler model) blasting out protons from hydrogen atoms for propulsion. This gives the neat bluish-white glow seen in almost all movies.

Throw in a few electron guns to keep the overall ship charge neutral.

Posted by: Arbalest at July 04, 2016 02:15 AM (FlRtG)

470 No, just to the husband of a friend of mine. I've ranted about him here so many times in the past that by now I just spare everyone the details. He's like the emperor of hypocritical smug misinformed environmentalists climate change activists.
Posted by: zombie


The guy who, when you were collecting vintage travel guides being discarded by a library, snuck them out of your bag because he deemed them politically incorrect? Surprised you haven't hauled off and socked him by now.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 04, 2016 02:16 AM (/mnCx)

471 I actually once said in frustration: "This game, in micro, touches on one of the foundational reasons western civilization was such a massive success. And you all suck at it!"

Posted by: Aetius451AD
****

It's funny and sad. The youngsters tend to be number 1 in self esteem and number 1000+ in actual ability.
The Chinese? Number one in ability and number 1000 in self esteem.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 02:17 AM (hVdx9)

472 Then, in a suicidal last ditch effort, the ship succeeds in blowing the larger comet fragment to small bits. One problem: this is done so close tot he planet that the bulk of those fragment would rain down on the planet and do nearly as much damage to the biosphere. Everybody dies, even if they survived the mega-tsunami from the other fragment.
Posted by: Epobirs at July 04, 2016 02:14 AM (IdCqF)

I persoannly love Armageddon, where they cut the asteroid perfectly in half- like the earth is a sword with a watermelon thrown at it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 02:19 AM (3ZoRf)

473 persoannly= personally. Damn, getting too tired to notice correction squiggles.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 02:21 AM (3ZoRf)

474 I persoannly love Armageddon, where they cut the asteroid perfectly in half- like the earth is a sword with a watermelon thrown at it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 02:19 AM (3ZoRf)


I liked the part in Armageddon where they put the lives of the crew sent to destroy the meteor above the lives of everyone on Earth. As if anyone with a brain would have set that operation to plant a bomb to be remotely detonated ... yeah ...

And Bruce Willis sure took his sweet time finally triggering it. The fact is that the meteor had crossed the line before he blew it. But, luckily it all worked out, anyway. Bruce needed those last seconds of life to ... do something ... other than insure the continued existence of Earth.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 04, 2016 02:24 AM (ZKlDy)

475 A female "werewolf" would be a "wifwolf".
Posted by: The Linguistic Hat


NTTAWWT ...

We want you to be happy, Hat ...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 04, 2016 02:25 AM (AoK0a)

476 A female "werewolf" would be a "wifwolf".
Posted by: The Linguistic Hat

NTTAWWT ...

We want you to be happy, Hat ...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic
****

All I can think of as far as having a were wife is that I would be coughing up some serious hairballs.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 02:26 AM (hVdx9)

477 or a xhe-wolf.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 02:26 AM (3ZoRf)

478 Dave?

Don't make me angry, Dave.

You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.

Posted by: HAL Banner at July 04, 2016 02:26 AM (0v57o)

479 You forgot to position the AE-35 toward Mecca, Dave.

Posted by: HALAL 9000 at July 04, 2016 02:27 AM (VxHD9)

480 A movie that I would highly recommend to everyone:

The Walk

Just awesome.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 04, 2016 02:27 AM (ZKlDy)

481 Yeah, but in Deep Impact at least they kill off an MSNBC anchor.

Watching 2001, it would have been funnier if Dave Bowman had beaten up HAL with a baseball bat, a la Office Space.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 04, 2016 02:29 AM (VxHD9)

482 Gravitational time dilation is, well, a relative thing. It has nothing to do with the "field strength". Clock rates go, roughly, as the Newtonian potential. The field, such as we think of it in Newtonian terms, goes as the gradients in that potential.

Consider a massive sphere with a hollowed out core. It's made of some ultra-dense unobtanium. Clock rates inside that hollowed center would be slow relative to an outside observer. Those inside would be floating free, no field whatsoever.

And really, there's no such thing as a gravitational field as we think of it. The "field", such as can be an invariant, is actually the gradient in the field itself, the "tide", as it's called. That tide is the manifestation of spacetime curvature. The 'g' field we think of is just coordinate choice, of course, the ground here sort of imposes that choice on us naturally, but an arbitrary choice it is. The weakness of the earth's little gravitational field is shown by the insignificant tide one would feel in free fall. Barely even there.

In the case of some huge monster giga-solar mass black hole, the tide at the event horizon can be negligible, you wouldn't feel a thing as you crossed the point of no return. Now, for a stellar mass black hole, the tide nearby is, well, nothing would hold together.

That said, the nonsense Hollywood does with black holes and such is just ridiculous.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 04, 2016 02:31 AM (DW+jj)

483 Don't be too hard on the Millennials...they're the Hero generation after all...when they play Call of Duty.

Of course, modern day heroism is a little bit differently defined.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie, Nomad at July 04, 2016 02:32 AM (VxHD9)

484 All I can think of as far as having a were wife is that I would be coughing up some serious hairballs.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 02:26 AM (hVdx9)


A "were wife" would be a "man wife", just so that you know...

Posted by: The Linguistic Hat at July 04, 2016 02:32 AM (vBeA5)

485 All right. Think I am tired enough to sleep. You all have a good rest of the 4th.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 04, 2016 02:35 AM (3ZoRf)

486 That said, the nonsense Hollywood does with black holes and such is just ridiculous.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 04, 2016 02:31 AM (DW+jj)


A little mood music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk2u9YLRZX8

Posted by: Dr. Hans Reinhardt at July 04, 2016 02:35 AM (vBeA5)

487 The guy who, when you were collecting vintage travel guides being discarded by a library, snuck them out of your bag because he deemed them politically incorrect? Surprised you haven't hauled off and socked him by now.
Posted by: Yuimetal/i]

Yep. That guy.

This time he did something even more infuriating: After an evening of him+wife visiting my house, he rooted through my kitchen garbage can when I wasn't looking and extracted all the "recyclables," which he then transported back to his home via his carbon-burning vehicle so he could place them in his recycling bin, because I was just too unenlightened to recycle properly.

How many layers of stupidity and rudeness and assholism in this one act?

Every time I interact with him, he does something more mind-bogglingly outrageous than the time before.

Posted by: zombie at July 04, 2016 02:36 AM (jBuUi)

488 Man, I wish I hadn't read that TSA story before bed time. My thoughts are dark indeed. Hopefully, I don't go into The Further.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie, Nomad at July 04, 2016 02:36 AM (VxHD9)

489 Shit. unitalic.

I look right at that closing italic tag and swore that it was correct.

Posted by: zombie at July 04, 2016 02:37 AM (jBuUi)

490 Every time I interact with him, he does something more mind-bogglingly outrageous than the time before.

Posted by: zombie at July 04, 2016 02:36 AM (jBuUi)


Just slip some L.S.D. into his drink...

Posted by: Psychedelicat at July 04, 2016 02:38 AM (vBeA5)

491 Looks like the former President of the United Nations General Assembly "crushed his own throat" right before having to testify against Hillary Clinton...

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zf6av3x

Posted by: Zombie Vince Foster at July 04, 2016 02:45 AM (vBeA5)

492 "Just slip some L.S.D. into his drink..."

* leans into mic hidden in lamp base *

But of course that would be wrong.

Posted by: zombie Richard Nixon at July 04, 2016 02:46 AM (0v57o)

493 Looks like the former President of the United Nations General Assembly "crushed his own throat" right before having to testify against Hillary Clinton...

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zf6av3x

Posted by: Zombie Vince Foster
****

I would swear the same dark angel that protected Hitler protects her and for much the same reason.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 02:47 AM (hVdx9)

494 "Leaders of other Planets are worried"

EU Pres reveals consultations with ETs

https://youtu.be/x9pby3pyxuE

Posted by: N.M. Roswell at July 04, 2016 02:50 AM (0v57o)

495 "Leaders of other Planets are worried"

EU Pres reveals consultations with ETs

https://youtu.be/x9pby3pyxuE

Posted by: N.M. Roswell
****

So, did they pick the big gun or just give them a glass of water?

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 02:51 AM (hVdx9)

496 Aaaaaaaand I am bringer of thread death.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 03:02 AM (hVdx9)

497 Echo, echo, echo...

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 03:06 AM (hVdx9)

498 "Just slip some L.S.D. into his drink..."

I thought they used it up smuggling out the whales ...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 04, 2016 03:06 AM (AoK0a)

499 Pinch hitting for Pedro Borbone, Manny Mota. Mota, Mota...

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 03:12 AM (hVdx9)

500 And 500

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 03:22 AM (hVdx9)

501 Not much of a baseball player, myself ...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 04, 2016 03:23 AM (AoK0a)

502 I wasn't bad in little league ball...

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 03:27 AM (hVdx9)

503 Never saw Bull Durham or Field of Dreams either ...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 04, 2016 03:30 AM (AoK0a)

504 But after a few years of playing I took a hard grounder to the face while practicing. Left me bloody and shy. Quite playing after that.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 03:31 AM (hVdx9)

505 Never saw Bull Durham or Field of Dreams either ...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic
****

Never saw Bull Durham either. Field of dreams was ok. A bit schmaltzy.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 03:33 AM (hVdx9)

506 Night all.

Here is "Momma Look Sharp" from the musical/movie 1776:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgEenf-TIMI

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 04, 2016 03:34 AM (vBeA5)

507 They just don't make them like that any more. Those boys on Iwo had serious grit. Let the weeping commence.

Posted by: goon at July 04, 2016 03:34 AM (WCaSy)

508 I caught one, playing 3rd base, iirc. Ball bounced out of my glove, rolled up my arm & smacked me in the throat. Not the most fun I've had...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 04, 2016 03:36 AM (AoK0a)

509 Night, Hat! Happy 4th...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 04, 2016 03:37 AM (AoK0a)

510 Old Ben knew his lightning rods, and lots of other stuff. I've always been sorry that he was never a president, but its real good that he's on the hun. That's the best money, ever, Ben.

Posted by: goon at July 04, 2016 03:42 AM (WCaSy)

511 I don't think that money makes up for beating up on a sick girl, personally. There's got to be a whip involved in that story to satisfy me.

Posted by: goon at July 04, 2016 03:48 AM (WCaSy)

512 Ben was proof that women love fame and power. A looker he was not.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 03:48 AM (hVdx9)

513 Ben had a lightening rod! ... and fame didn't hurt, I suppose, to get the party started, but mostly it was the lightening rod.

Posted by: goon at July 04, 2016 03:55 AM (WCaSy)

514 Also, I think that Ben bathed. That will be the worst part of the future. Every drop of water will be too important to waste on washing. Come swiftly, Jesus.

Posted by: goon at July 04, 2016 03:58 AM (WCaSy)

515 I am sure it was a good pickup line.

"Want to see my lighting rod demonstration?"

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 03:59 AM (hVdx9)

516 Also, I think that Ben bathed. That will be the worst part of the future. Every drop of water will be too important to waste on washing. Come swiftly, Jesus.

Posted by: goon
****

We'll see a reduction in oral sex is my prediction.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 04:01 AM (hVdx9)

517 As for Die Hard, it was meant to be. None of those other actors would have done it justice.
Richard Gere? Burt Reynolds? WTF!? Really?

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 04:03 AM (hVdx9)

518 Have I ever expressed how much I hate garlic?

I hate garlic with a white hot passion.

Seriously, fuck you if you poison other peoples food with that rotten shit.

Fuck my life.

Posted by: eleven at July 04, 2016 04:05 AM (qUNWi)

519 Counter programming of sorts:

"2015 Edinburgh Tattoo"
youtu.be/kJTuRfAo2eU
UK, US, and PRC military-themed stuff
Skip to 6:14 for the USAF precision rifle.

Skip to 21:52 for the Citadel's band.

"Trooping the Colour 2016"
Two weeks ago there was a birfday thing for the Queen of the UK.
youtu.be/Vb9hrWbb2NI

The BBC sucks in all shapes in forms but they do some things quite well. This link is almost 3hours long, so skipping is required.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 04, 2016 04:05 AM (p2X2f)

520 Have I ever expressed how much I hate garlic?

I hate garlic with a white hot passion.

Seriously, fuck you if you poison other peoples food with that rotten shit.

Fuck my life.

Posted by: eleven
****

I suspected you were a vampire. Now I know for sure. May the hunters claim you.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 04:07 AM (hVdx9)

521 BBC had a show called Danger UXB
It was about WWII bomb defusing technicians and was quite good. Here is a google search on it.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/j8pzf7n

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 04:09 AM (hVdx9)

522 It would be cool to be immortal. Or the worst thing ever.

Death has a purpose.

Posted by: eleven at July 04, 2016 04:11 AM (qUNWi)

523 It would be cool to be immortal. Or the worst thing ever.

Death has a purpose.

Posted by: eleven
****

Yes, but it can also be tremendously wasteful.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 04:15 AM (hVdx9)

524 Stay out of Gilroy, eleven!
http://gilroygarlicfestival.com/

Posted by: goon at July 04, 2016 04:15 AM (WCaSy)

525 If life were something that money could buy,
The rich would live & the poor would die.
So God in His Wisdom made it so,
That in the end, we all must go...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 04, 2016 04:16 AM (AoK0a)

526 i just hate the fuck out of garlic.

It makes me want to vomit. What the fuck do you people see in that shit?

Posted by: eleven at July 04, 2016 04:16 AM (qUNWi)

527 i just hate the fuck out of garlic.

It makes me want to vomit. What the fuck do you people see in that shit?

Posted by: eleven
****

To some of us it is quite good. Plus anything that repels vampires can't be all bad.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 04:19 AM (hVdx9)

528 We see the angle hair pasta with garlic shrimp and broccoli! What else is there?! It's the only reason to live forever!

Posted by: goon at July 04, 2016 04:20 AM (WCaSy)

529 It makes me want to vomit. What the fuck do you people see in that shit?

Posted by: eleven


See? Nothing.

It's called flavor unless you have an eye on your tongue.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 04, 2016 04:20 AM (p2X2f)

530 And the gauntlet has been thrown.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 04:23 AM (hVdx9)

531 Yes it has flavor. The flavor or rotten onions and garbage.

Posted by: eleven at July 04, 2016 04:24 AM (qUNWi)

532 So, being an asshole to your neighbors because it's not against the law to set off fireworks two days after the Fourth is OK?

I know who the douche was ManWithNoParty and it wasn't your neighbors

Posted by: whatmeworry? at July 04, 2016 04:25 AM (dZGNV)

533 Now see, that's how a great food recipe gets created! You think of a name, and then, and then, you figure out a dish to make it real.

Eye On Your Tongue. That would be a good one! I would guess that a really nice steak with an oyster on it could get things going, or maybe a breakfast dish of some type. ...

Posted by: goon at July 04, 2016 04:25 AM (WCaSy)

534 Funny, I never got that flavor.
Sure it wasn't shit?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/zzjq5fe

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 04:26 AM (hVdx9)

535 Yes it has flavor. The flavor or rotten onions and garbage.

Posted by: eleven


Rome weeps for you.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 04, 2016 04:26 AM (p2X2f)

536 Hay!...here's this steak!...let's put rotten onion garbage flavor on it!


Yay! ::hot pockets::

Posted by: eleven at July 04, 2016 04:28 AM (qUNWi)

537 Happy 4th all ...

Sleep calls.

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 04, 2016 04:28 AM (AoK0a)

538 Eleven, the fact you like hot pockets is like saying you think The Postman or Water World is great cinema.
It means we get to ignore what you say.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 04:29 AM (hVdx9)

539 It's 4:36AM. Do you know where your propane is ... and yer garlic?!

Posted by: goon at July 04, 2016 04:31 AM (WCaSy)

540 445 Idea for a Trump ad: Trump as David Bowman dismantling the HAL 9000, who sounds like Obama. Trump pulls out modules labelled "Obamacare", "EPA regulations", "unrestricted immigration", "activist judges", etc. while Obama sings "Daisy, Daisy ..."
Posted by: Yuimetal at July 04, 2016 01:58 AM (/mnCx)



That would be good.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at July 04, 2016 04:32 AM (0R9wG)

541 hah...The Postman was actually not that bad.



Waterworld was awful mostly because of Dennis Hopper.

Posted by: eleven at July 04, 2016 04:32 AM (qUNWi)

542 Waterworld was better than garlic which sucks.

Posted by: eleven at July 04, 2016 04:35 AM (qUNWi)

543 Woke up and just wanted to say hey. Be well all, enjoy the 4th!

Posted by: Farmer at July 04, 2016 04:35 AM (o/90i)

544 Aaaand you prove my point.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 04:35 AM (hVdx9)

545 Bet you like Robot Jox too.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 04:35 AM (hVdx9)

546 My turn to pass out.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 04, 2016 04:37 AM (hVdx9)

547 Happy 4th all you fart knockers!!

Posted by: eleven at July 04, 2016 04:37 AM (qUNWi)

548 Happy 4th Tilikum.

Posted by: eleven at July 04, 2016 04:39 AM (qUNWi)

549 So, being an asshole to your neighbors because it's not against the law to set off fireworks two days after the Fourth is OK?

I know who the douche was ManWithNoParty and it wasn't your neighbors
Posted by: whatmeworry? at July 04, 2016 04:25 AM (dZGNV

******

Uummm....no, Douchebag.Not sure why you have some problem with me, but in this,case the ultimate Douche was the neighbor. If you have a,problem with me, please Nut up and address it like a,man.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at July 04, 2016 04:42 AM (46KbT)

550 Good Morning Every.

Posted by: Huma W. at July 04, 2016 04:53 AM (WVsWD)

551 You taught me language, and my profit on't Is I know how to curse.

Shakespeare knew how versatile the word "fuck" would become. He also spoke of "garlic" several times. Something like, "fucking garlic", occurs several times in his works.

Posted by: goon at July 04, 2016 04:54 AM (WCaSy)

552 LOL, I got a Windows 10 update nag as I was reading about the Windows 10 upgrade nags.

Happy Fappingpenance Day, Fappers!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 04, 2016 04:54 AM (jR7Wy)

553 /off dirty old sock

Good Morning Everyone. Let's celebrate a Birthday Today.

Posted by: Huma W. at July 04, 2016 04:57 AM (WVsWD)

554 /try again

Kaffee Bitte!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 04, 2016 04:57 AM (WVsWD)

555 Can I get 111 posts in an hour or so? Hmm. I suppose I could try but is it worth it?

Naw.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 04, 2016 05:02 AM (WVsWD)

556 Eris, I just went ahead and updated to 10 some months ago.

It's the same shitty company either way.

We might as well all be in the same well.

Posted by: eleven at July 04, 2016 05:05 AM (qUNWi)

557 The one thing I will caution people about is that your e-mail might not work very well in Windows 10.

Posted by: eleven at July 04, 2016 05:07 AM (qUNWi)

558 I haven't had any problem with my email that weren't already there since I upgraded.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 04, 2016 05:10 AM (WVsWD)

559 Whats up with all the blwe at Drudge? He run out of black electrons or did the Hamsters take over?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 04, 2016 05:18 AM (WVsWD)

560 Happy 4th of July horde

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2016 05:50 AM (Yo9Lf)

561 Well, looks like none of the CObs will be coming in this morning so here goes:


Good Morning Morons. Today is Monday, July 04, 2016. On this day in 1776 the Declaration of Independence was formally adopted by the Second Continental Congress in Philadelphia.





Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 04, 2016 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

562 Dad says there were two alligators involved in the attack on his son at Disney.


http://tinyurl.com/zzddcy8

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 04, 2016 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

563 The DNC rolled out a host of drooling idiots to support Scankles' law breaking on the Sunday liberal propaganda shows.


http://tinyurl.com/jjz9v7c

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 04, 2016 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

564 Obama plans on a massive push for more globalization in the face of the rise of Trump and GB bailing out of the EU, which was a major embarrassment and another "foreign policy" win for him after he stuck his ugly nose in GB's business.


http://tinyurl.com/jxojotw

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 04, 2016 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

565 The racist Congressional Black Caucus plans on disrupting House activities this week and I'm sure Ryan will let them get away with it.


http://tinyurl.com/gp26emu

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 04, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

566 Our stupid statement of the month comes from Cokiehead Dumbass Roberts who says Scankles' low polling in "leadership" is because she is a woman. Well you ignorant scrunt, there are a ton of other women in political positions who poll quite well and whether she is a woman or not is debatable.


http://tinyurl.com/z73wnwx

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 04, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

567 Well Antenna TV released their new schedule that begins today.
Burns and Allen has been limited to Saturday and Sunday only.
I used to enjoy watching it throughout the week, but apparently no more.
I hate change.

Happy Independence Day everyone.
Happy Birthday USA!

Posted by: Al Bundy at July 04, 2016 06:01 AM (pZcAI)

568 The British newspapers do not like Obama for some unknown reason.


President Obama's domestic policies have done little to move this country forward and his foreign policy is a disaster. Sometimes when he speaks off-the-cuff without a teleprompter, he sounds downright awkward. And when he's off duty and wears those ridiculous mom-style jeans, it's embarrassing to admit he's the commander-in-chief of the world's largest military.


I would have been much more critical.


http://tinyurl.com/hjvut3z

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 04, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

569 Muzzie savages molest hundreds of young girls at a music concert in Sweden. They are described as "foreign men". The bouncers at the festival allowed them to get away with it as does the Swedish government for the rest of the country. Is there any wonder why the voters in GB, outside of muzzie controlled London, wanted out of the EU?


http://tinyurl.com/hfctcp5

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 04, 2016 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

570 Dory continues to squash all box office opposition while other big money projects flop.


http://tinyurl.com/gq6on9b


That's it for today folks.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 04, 2016 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

571 The saving of the eagle story on the side bar is a must resd

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2016 06:04 AM (Yo9Lf)

572 Back to the rocker

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 04, 2016 06:05 AM (mpXpK)

573 Hey MWNP,

you ever have dogs or children or work?

Whenever clueless dicks like you let off fireworks legal or not, you terrorize animals, wake up kids and people who have to work early.

Ever year we prepare for the one day a year it's allowed/tolerated.

The rest of the time I'm going to be in your face about it. That man enough for you?

Posted by: whatmeworry? at July 04, 2016 06:05 AM (dZGNV)

574 The saving of the eagle story on the side bar is a must resd

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2016 06:04 AM (Yo9Lf)

Yupp. A happy ending for all.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 04, 2016 06:11 AM (WVsWD)

575 NOOD

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2016 06:12 AM (Yo9Lf)

576 The Hannah Cohen picture makes me weep in fury.

Posted by: RobM1981 at July 04, 2016 06:35 AM (VVBN7)

577 The rest of the time I'm going to be in your face about it. That man enough for you?
Posted by: whatmeworry? at July 04, 2016 06:05 AM (dZGNV)

******

My, my, you should take this up with your lawmakers. Pre 10 O'clock around here, you can GFY with your complaint.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at July 04, 2016 06:58 AM (46KbT)

578 Back at you sunshine. You're the one who doesn't give a shit about your neighbors.

Posted by: whatmeworry? at July 04, 2016 12:02 PM (dZGNV)

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