Overnight Open Thread (6-5-2016)

Quote of the Day

Political correctness is the means by which we try to control others; decency is the means by which we try to control ourselves. There is no doubt which is the easier to undertake, and the more pleasurable and gratifying. There is a considerable element of sadism in political correctness.

-- Theodore Dalrymple

Michael Barone on City Planners' Obsession with Downtowns

Today a majority of Americans live in what are by any reasonable definition very large cities, metropolitan areas with populations above 1 million. But the urban planning profession remains fixated on just one small portion of these metropolises, the central city downtowns, though none outside New York contains more than 10 percent of metropolitan area jobs.

...That's not how planners like to think about cities. Their focus is typically visual, and on the exterior of buildings and cityscape, easily reproduced in glossy coffee-table books, rather than on the interiors where people spend most of their hours. They take their cues from 20th century architects like Le Corbusier, who wanted to knock down all of Paris' historic structures and replace them with a few skyscrapers rising from parkland.

There is an obvious authoritarian thrust here. It is visible in Kotkin's home state of California, where zoning restrictions and NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard) protests prevent new construction in coastal metropolises. Gov. Jerry Brown is pushing policies that would concentrate new housing in high-rise clusters around mass transit stations, with ready access to bike paths and walking trails but not to streets and roads for private cars. It's a good thing to offer people such a choice. It's a bad thing to deny them any others.

Yet city planners and blue state politicians loathe the suburbs where most Americans live and work and view them as much of what's wrong with America.

As Kotkin points out, the rationales for confining development in this way don't stand up to scrutiny. It's argued that suburbs, whose residents drive dozens of miles each day, are more wasteful of energy than high-rise central cities. Data don't bear that out. It takes lots of energy to build and maintain the high-rises, more than enough to compensate for less driving.

Central cities are also portrayed as more ethnically diverse. But that's not necessarily true: As Kotkin notes, blacks have been moving to suburbs, and most Asian and Latino immigrants head there directly. Meanwhile, the hippest neighborhoods of San Francisco and Portland, Brooklyn and Boston are increasingly monochromatically white.

And it turns out that tightly packing people from various ethnic backgrounds into small central city neighborhoods doesn't promote harmonious interaction. On the contrary, as Harvard sociologist Robert Putnam found to his horror, it reduces social trust and social connectedness. People hunker down and avoid contact with others.

You get more social connectedness and higher levels of trust in the supposedly dreary and dull suburbs. One reason is that people with children tend to head toward the suburbs, and childrearing encourages participation in school- and church-related voluntary associations.

Another is that suburbs, unlike central cities or university campuses, actually have populations with diverse opinions. On any suburban cul-de-sac you can find people who vote both Republican and Democratic. Good luck trying that in Manhattan or Harvard.

I suspect that the population density and ratio of green space to human developed space in suburbs is not too far off from what humans have lived in for most of our history. So contra urban planners suburbs are not some unnatural modern aberration - rather it's their beloved high density cities that are.

And then you have this which is not a parody:

More-Coercion-copy

#First200NamesInTheBostonTelphoneBook

The Next "Green" Plan: Have the Feds Seize Coal Plants and Shut Them Down

If you can't get the courts to give you the power, then just seize what you don't like and destroy it. Thank you Kelo. Never mind that coal plants account for almost a quarter of all power generated in the US.

ESPN Columnist: Cops Singing the National Anthem is a Gross Display of Authoritarianism

And his arguments are just as stupid as you'd imagine. I'm also pretty sure that if the police didn't sing the national anthem, he'd find some way to be just as outraged about it.

Google Pulls the Jew Tracking Plug-in, Coincidence Detector

Of Course: California to Extend Obamacare to Illegal Immigrants Using 'Innovation Waiver'

Borders are for fags.

Newsweek: Fox News to Blame for Gun Sales Surge

ACLU Leader Quits After Her Daughters Encounter Men in the Women's Restroom

Offering your own children to the gods of diversity might be a bridge too far for some.

The Classic Top Gear Rolling Reliant Episode

Of course it came out later that Top Gear mechanics modified the differential to make the car prone to tipping when Clarkson yanked the steering wheel but still it's pretty damn funny.

18 Years After Saving Her Life, Retired Hartford Officer Celebrates Eastern Student's College Graduation

In June of 1998, then Hartford Police Detective Peter Getz rescued Aponte from an apartment fire that killed her cousin and nearly took her life.

"The fire was so heavy. [Firefighters] couldn't see. They crawled," said Getz.

Aponte was just 5 years old. She was almost missed by first responders during the aftermath of the fire in an apartment on Washington Street in Hartford. She was in cardiac arrest when firefighters discovered her and handed her to Getz before heading back into the fire themselves.

"We were a block and a half from the hospital. We're not going to wait the 10 minutes for an ambulance to get there," said Getz.

Another officer drove to the hospital, while Getz performed CPR on Aponte in the back seat.

He said, "When we got her to the emergency room she was somewhat back, and the emergency room did their magic and brought her back."

Aponte spent the next month in several different hospitals recovering from third-degree burns and smoke inhalation. Getz visited Aponte and gave her a teddy bear, which she kept all these years.
all-alanc-6-24-hartford-fire allimg_0671

The Vikings Have Finally Made it (Back) to America

The world's largest Viking ship in modern times has reached Canada after a challenging journey across the Atlantic, departing Scandinavian shores in late April.

Bjorn Ahlander, the ship's Swedish captain, ordered the great dragon vessel - named after Harald Harfagre, the king who unified Norway in the 10th century - to drop anchor at St Anthony in Newfoundland, Canada, on Wednesday, after more than a month at sea.

"I am proud of the men and what we have achieved en route. It has not been easy. We have encountered many problems on the trip, but the crew has remained in good spirits and has worked hard all the way," he told reporters.

Following in the historical tailwind of Leif Eriksson, the Viking thought to have discovered America centuries before Christopher Columbus, the ship left Norway's Avaldsnes on April 26th, taking a route via the Faroe Islands, Shetland Islands, Iceland and Greenland.

The journey offered stark contrasts, with the crew battling winds, ice and rain - but also calm waters, sunshine and even the wedding of two of its crew members on Greenland.

...An impressive 35 metres long, eight metres wide and with a mast height of 24 metres, Harald Harfagre is the world's biggest longship built in modern times.

vikingshipcanadae

Weekly Commenter Standings

Top 10 commenters:
1 [525 comments] 'sven10077' [73.71 posts/day]
2 [396 comments] 'J.J. Sefton'
3 [351 comments] 'Christopher Taylor'
4 [343 comments] 'Bruce With a Wang!'
5 [337 comments] 'Nevergiveup'
6 [319 comments] 'ThunderB'
7 [282 comments] 'Ricardo Kill'
8 [278 comments] 'Mr Macca Bean'
9 [267 comments] 'rickb223'
10 [258 comments] 'Insomniac'

Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [60 names] 'phreshone' [8.42 unique names/day]
2 [52 names] 'POTUS'
3 [38 names] 'Mike Hammer, etc., etc.'
4 [33 names] 'Cicero (@cicero)'
5 [31 names] 'TeamRawDog'
6 [28 names] 'andycanuck'
7 [27 names] 'mindful webworker - #NeverMind'
8 [22 names] 'a random troublemaker'
9 [19 names] 'MTF, Amity and Enmity'
10 [19 names] 'Cicero (@cicero)'

The group. Banned on 12 universities.

Where it's at - the Twitter

Tonight's post brought to you by the Israeli paratroopers who liberated Jerusalem then (1967) and now:

Soldiers-at-Western-Wall-Then-and-Now-e1462943215658-620x435

Notice: Posted by permission of AceCorp LLC. Please e-mail overnight open thread tips to maetenloch at gmail. Otherwise send tips to Ace. Because of previous incidents no chimeras in the ONT please.

Posted by: Maetenloch at 11:33 PM




Comments

(Jump to bottom of page)

1 Yup.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 05, 2016 11:34 PM (OQ9R7)

2 Finally! Now I can go to bed.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 05, 2016 11:34 PM (GUBah)

3 ugga bugg bugg

that's the martians' word for our planet.

Posted by: iforgot at June 05, 2016 11:35 PM (5o5ek)

4 Hey! Cleveland won something tonight.

-Don't Ask.
-I Don't Know.
-Horrible Game.
-Horrible City.

-G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 05, 2016 11:36 PM (OQ9R7)

5 Ahh, a whiff of fresh ONT?

Or fart rape. It's kinda hard to tell the difference 'round here.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 05, 2016 11:38 PM (v5iqM)

6 TWO WEEKS IN A ROW!!!!

[puts head in hands]

i need to get a life...

Posted by: phreshone at June 05, 2016 11:38 PM (12kBq)

7 Evening.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at June 05, 2016 11:38 PM (aN6O8)

8 Socialists when their Everything Metropolitan is wanting to create the enclosed cities of Logan's Run so everyone, save the elites, can renew and go to Carousel.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 05, 2016 11:38 PM (GFzi9)

9 Boy did the Cavs Shit the bed.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 05, 2016 11:39 PM (89T5c)

10 Nevada Primary 2016: First Week Early Voting Roundup And Prognostications

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=11916

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 05, 2016 11:41 PM (vBeA5)

11 Is Theodore Russel's Brother?

Posted by: Elaine Benes at June 05, 2016 11:41 PM (6kxiP)

12 Here is the "News of the Week" compilation of the news.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=11920

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 05, 2016 11:41 PM (vBeA5)

13
Borders are for fags.


-----------------

Not *dangerous* fags.

Posted by: iforgot at June 05, 2016 11:42 PM (5o5ek)

14 Who knew Gojira was a Democrat?

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/selection-du-weekend-195-6.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 05, 2016 11:44 PM (GFzi9)

15 >>Borders are for fags.



We should fill the Moat with Crocs and Parfait.

Posted by: Elaine Benes at June 05, 2016 11:44 PM (6kxiP)

16 SockOFF

Posted by: garrett at June 05, 2016 11:44 PM (6kxiP)

17 Don't think that dyke bitch from the EPA and the vermin in the DOJ aren't crafting ways to shutter the coal-fired Power plants.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 05, 2016 11:45 PM (89T5c)

18 second test

Posted by: L, Elle at June 05, 2016 11:45 PM (6IPEM)

19
I almost can't stand to read these stories about little kids almost dying, even if they do turn into feel-good stories. I keep picturing the horrible moment and substituting some baby in my family and I -- never mind, this is the ONT.

Happy pre-Monday morning, everyone.

I'm still not getting it right, am I?

Posted by: iforgot at June 05, 2016 11:46 PM (5o5ek)

20 >>Boy did the Cavs Shit the bed.


LeBron is not looking like he's got the heart of a Champion.

Posted by: garrett at June 05, 2016 11:46 PM (6kxiP)

21 That should be "known to". There's no doubt that the Vikings reached North America even if they didn't affect history with it the way Columbus did.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 05, 2016 11:46 PM (PLnZs)

22 Everything is right in the world. Sven back on top of the list.

Posted by: L, Elle at June 05, 2016 11:46 PM (6IPEM)

23 Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 05, 2016 11:39 PM (89T5c)

Makes me happy!

I just don't like Lebron James, and I am impressed by Curry's maturity and poise.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 05, 2016 11:46 PM (Zu3d9)

24
Don't think that dyke bitch from the EPA and the vermin in the DOJ aren't crafting ways to shutter the coal-fired Power plants.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 05, 2016 11:45 PM (89T5c)
------------------

And don't think Paul Ryan will fund their dismantling.

Posted by: iforgot at June 05, 2016 11:47 PM (5o5ek)

25 For 'lo, I have wandered the wastelands. And I have come here to tell you this.

Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 05, 2016 11:47 PM (T/cxb)

26 'Legitimate Coercion'

Nicely Doublespoken, Ms. Manbridge.

Posted by: garrett at June 05, 2016 11:47 PM (6kxiP)

27 And they just want to put coal-power companies out of business so Soros can buy them up cheap. Then "clean coal" will become mandatory.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 05, 2016 11:47 PM (PLnZs)

28 "Borders are for fags."

Ja, h8er.

Posted by: Mutti Merkel at June 05, 2016 11:48 PM (wQWv4)

29
They come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 05, 2016 11:48 PM (IqV8l)

30 110-77.
I get to troll my brother again. Haha.

Posted by: L, Elle at June 05, 2016 11:48 PM (6IPEM)

31 "City Planners' Obsession With Downtowns"

Didn't Robert Moses make "urban renewal" a dirty word in the 1950s/60s?

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 05, 2016 11:48 PM (ntObR)

32 I've been to Portland quite a few times. It's beautiful even if the people are kooky. I even love the weather.

My first visit lasted a little over a week. Something about the city struck me as different but I couldn't quite figure out what it was.

The answer hit me during my second trip: everyone there is white except for a few Asians and Indians. The dang city is whiter than Iceland.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at June 05, 2016 11:48 PM (nvMvs)

33 Lots of people spied the shores of North America, only after the Columbus did anyone bother to explore and exploit.

Though if the PRC keeps getting away with the hijinks in the China Sea, I wonder if they will try and assert a claim of ownership to North America because their eunuch admiral made it over.

Would have to go long on popcorn futures then.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 05, 2016 11:48 PM (GFzi9)

34 .......

You need to step up and bring your "a" game Sefton....

Nice ONT Maet....

Needs more Yoko.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 05, 2016 11:48 PM (g8Hfr)

35 Hi Ya'll.

Thanks for the ONT Maet. But please don't give links to TTAG. They are content thieves who steal others work without attribution.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 05, 2016 11:48 PM (9ltS8)

36 My friends, we have nothing to fear with Barack Obama Hillary Clinton in the White House

Posted by: John McCain at June 05, 2016 11:50 PM (12kBq)

37 8 Posted by: Anna Puma at June 05, 2016 11:38 PM (GFzi9)

I am not so much in to carousel....

might help Pajama Boy to his though.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 05, 2016 11:50 PM (g8Hfr)

38
Well well well. The lineup for tomorrow's morning broadcast at RealClearPolitics shows the beginning of the elbowing-out of the punditocracy.

The Journal of American Greatness makes an appearance (even though it's buried within Powerline) and Scott Dilbert's strategy for not being assassinated in 2017 appears.

Posted by: iforgot at June 05, 2016 11:50 PM (5o5ek)

39 I predict that the advertized lecture by Ms. Manbridge, to borrow a phrase (this time used appropriately) would sound better in the original German.


Or Russian.


I think I scrawled, on the 1990 census form where it asked for "race", that I would only respond to such questions in German, or Afrikaans. As if the dim-bulb census processor would have a prayer of getting the insult, the contempt.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 05, 2016 11:50 PM (QDnY+)

40 If Sven brought his "A" game, he would have approximately 2,000 posts.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 05, 2016 11:50 PM (GFzi9)

41 Socialists when their Everything Metropolitan is wanting to create the enclosed cities of Logan's Run so everyone, save the elites, can renew and go to Carousel.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 05, 2016 11:38 PM (GFzi9)


I'll take care of those Metropolis H8rz...

*turns on maschinenmensch*

Posted by: C. A. Rotwang at June 05, 2016 11:50 PM (vBeA5)

42 And it's midnight and I'm going to bed. Have fun everybody.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 05, 2016 11:50 PM (9ltS8)

43 >>If Sven brought his "A" game, he would have approximately 2,000 posts.


No shit.

550, or so is just him phoning it in.

Posted by: garrett at June 05, 2016 11:51 PM (6kxiP)

44 33 Posted by: Anna Puma at June 05, 2016 11:48 PM (GFzi9)

Their Eunuch Muslim Admiral...

Posted by: sven10077 at June 05, 2016 11:51 PM (g8Hfr)

45 BTW, David French is refusing to run/dropped out whatever.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 05, 2016 11:52 PM (PLnZs)

46 Socialists when their Everything Metropolitan is wanting to create the enclosed cities of Logan's Run so everyone, save the elites, can renew and go to Carousel.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 05, 2016 11:38 PM (GFzi9)


Science fiction are operating manuals to liberals, not cautionary tales

Posted by: George Orwell at June 05, 2016 11:52 PM (12kBq)

47 City Planners' Obsession With Downtowns

Coming to you soon via Obama's "Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing" scheme...

Posted by: The Unplanned Hat at June 05, 2016 11:52 PM (vBeA5)

48 Hola, amigoz en loz intertuboz!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at June 05, 2016 11:52 PM (EzgxV)

49 Mobility is freedom.

Having transportation that lets you just pack up and move is something the feudal lord can not tolerate. If the serfs can just move somewhere else, the feudal state can't enslave you.

Thus, urban density, urban planning that makes privately owned automobiles impossible, and mass transit that limits what you can carry to what you can carry in your hands.

If you look at old English history, you could not just move to another village. You had to have permission from the mayor of the village you wanted to leave, you had to have permission of the mayor of the village you wanted to move to, and you had to have a skill or trade, and you had to have the permission of the guild you were leaving and the guild you would have to join.

Posted by: Rupert Rutherford Bixley at June 05, 2016 11:52 PM (FAPLK)

50 As noted in the previous thread, the whole David French thing, to include his vomitus, er, scribblings upon his decision to not "run", are speechlessness-inducing (to coin a very, very clumsy term that will die here, tonight).

Posted by: rhomboid at June 05, 2016 11:53 PM (QDnY+)

51 Since I just found that I have volunteer grape seedlings growing from my compost, I started wondering what the genetic similarity was between European grapes and American grapes and if they are as similar as they seem.

Since there was a discovery of an out of place Phoenician coin in New England, I would wonder if there might be some mysterious bottleneck in the genetics of the Scuppernog grape

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2016 11:54 PM (ry34m)

52 So David French lived up to his last name and surrendered?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 05, 2016 11:54 PM (GFzi9)

53 Hey give that guy Rotwang a hand. He needs one. Really!

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 05, 2016 11:55 PM (GFzi9)

54 They really ruined Top Gear, Matt Leblanc was OK. It was an unfunny mess, no chemistry at all with the Hosts.

I am looking forward to the Grand Tour on Amazon with the original hosts.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 05, 2016 11:56 PM (c4yY7)

55 Like Shinsuke Nakamura I am King of Strong Posting Style...


https://youtu.be/dUHlZoftUbs

Kinshasa

Posted by: sven10077 at June 05, 2016 11:56 PM (g8Hfr)

56 I think the proper word is "laryngitisee", rhomboid.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 05, 2016 11:56 PM (PLnZs)

57 Scott Dilbert's strategy for not being assassinated in 2017 appears.
Posted by: iforgot at June 05, 2016 11:50 PM (5o5ek)

Which was pretty funny. I think he's rooting for Trump.

I've already seen a few anti-Trump ads. Hillary's people are working overtime to brand Trump. Of course, unlike the typical Republican candidate, I figure Trump will hit back.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at June 05, 2016 11:56 PM (Ee2nz)

58 22 Posted by: L, Elle at June 05, 2016 11:46 PM (6IPEM)

You know the GOP is doomed if I get back to 3600...

Posted by: sven10077 at June 05, 2016 11:56 PM (g8Hfr)

59
Hola, amigoz en loz intertuboz!!!
Posted by: cthulhu at June 05, 2016 11:52 PM (EzgxV)
----------------

Greetingz-o! I do not speak Spanish, but tonight I shall sleep in an Inn de Holiday!

Posted by: iforgot at June 05, 2016 11:57 PM (5o5ek)

60 45 Posted by: andycanuck at June 05, 2016 11:52 PM (PLnZs)

He's smarter than Bill Kristol, of course my dead dog is smarter than Bill Kristol.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 05, 2016 11:57 PM (g8Hfr)

61 Scot Dilbert's strategy . .

I'm not sure if he was serious or making a point.

Posted by: Rupert Rutherford Bixley at June 05, 2016 11:58 PM (FAPLK)

62 Kindltot I think there are very few indigenous North American varieties of vitis vinifera. One, oddly enough called Norton, is pretty good (to me - but I'm able to enjoy all sorts of different types and qualities of wine).


Only place I've seen it grown and vinified is Virginia. Red, dark, soft edges, more bordeaux than rhone in terms of taste.


Not to be confused with the "Norton" house in Argentina, one of the older wine-making businesses down there. Usually you'll just see their malbec up here.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 05, 2016 11:58 PM (QDnY+)

63 BTW, David French is refusing to run/dropped out whatever.
Posted by: andycanuck at June 05, 2016 11:52 PM (PLnZs)

But I thought he had an awesome team and great chances. Popehat is going to be disappointed.

Kristol should never get to offer punditry on anything again.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at June 05, 2016 11:58 PM (Ee2nz)

64
6 TWO WEEKS IN A ROW!!!!

[puts head in hands]

i need to get a life...

Posted by: phreshone at June 05, 2016 11:38 PM (12kBq)



Identifying your problem is the first step in solving it.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 05, 2016 11:58 PM (EzgxV)

65 Kristol screwing the GOP out of the win this cycle would earn him "House Republican" status on NBC's family of channels 4 life....

he can noodle with SE "DD" Cupp

Posted by: sven10077 at June 05, 2016 11:59 PM (g8Hfr)

66 I can't recall when (mid or late 19th C.?) but a blight wiped out alot of French vines and American ones from California were used to replant them. It might have been for one particular type, like Cabernet grapes or whatever, as I now vaguely recall. Probably something through Bing about it.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 05, 2016 11:59 PM (PLnZs)

67 "Why We Need More and More State Coercion"


Absolutely. We should force women to stay home, have babies, and take care of them. I agree completely.


We should also force Negroes to get off welfare and to work.


And force illegal aliens and Muslims to return to wherever they came from.


State coercion. Is there anything it can't do?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 06, 2016 12:00 AM (oKE6c)

68
BTW, David French is refusing to run/dropped out whatever.
Posted by: andycanuck at June 05, 2016 11:52 PM (PLnZs)
-------------------

As am I.

Posted by: iforgot at June 06, 2016 12:00 AM (5o5ek)

69 Actually andy there was a disastrous blight that devastated French (I believe bordeaux) vineyards, might have been 19th or late 18th century.


I think some cuttings from South America (mostly Chile) were used to restore the vineyards. Not sure that North America had much to do with that one, but could be wrong.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2016 12:01 AM (QDnY+)

70
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 06, 2016 12:00 AM (oKE6c)
--------------------------

We just need to get the right people in there.

Oddly, that's also true of hereditary monarchy.

Posted by: iforgot at June 06, 2016 12:01 AM (5o5ek)

71 http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/selection-du-weekend-195-66.jpg

Caption this - Treadwell having tea with friends.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2016 12:02 AM (GFzi9)

72 I can't recall when (mid or late 19th C.?) but a
blight wiped out alot of French vines and American ones from California
were used to replant them. It might have been for one particular type,
like Cabernet grapes or whatever, as I now vaguely recall. Probably
something through Bing about it.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 05, 2016 11:59 PM (PLnZs)

It was phylloxera (sp?), and necessitated the grafting of European vines onto American rootstock. Something French oenophiles don't like to talk about.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 06, 2016 12:02 AM (oKE6c)

73 Meanwhile, the hippest neighborhoods of San Francisco and Portland, Brooklyn and Boston are increasingly monochromatically white.

______


Heh. A friend of mine (uber conservative) and his wife (thinks Moochelle is the greatest woman alive) live in one of these places. Whenever I visit I mention how it's so weird that there are no non-white people anywhere within a mile of their house. He snorts, she gives me the evil eye.

It's a very nice 'nabe. But it's probably 98% white. My sister, the big Hillary fan also lives in such a place.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 06, 2016 12:02 AM (0LHZx)

74 Very modest proposals, Jay Guevara, that I'm sure any liberal, big-government type would have to agree with. After all, the government is always correct.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 06, 2016 12:02 AM (PLnZs)

75 If grape seeds germinate in the compost pile, why don't bell pepper seeds?

And how do you propagate seedless grapes?

And how many dandelion blossoms do you need to make dandelion wine?

Posted by: Rupert Rutherford Bixley at June 06, 2016 12:03 AM (FAPLK)

76 does Jane Mansbridge of Harvard have sex with anything?

prolly just fat chicks

Posted by: Jake at June 06, 2016 12:03 AM (YNyCj)

77 I'm surprised no Soviet Justice Wanker has complained about being 'triggered' over that last name - MANSbridge.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2016 12:04 AM (GFzi9)

78 If you look at old English history, you could not just move to another village. You had to have permission from the mayor of the village you wanted to leave, you had to have permission of the mayor of the village you wanted to move to, and you had to have a skill or trade, and you had to have the permission of the guild you were leaving and the guild you would have to join.

Posted by: Rupert Rutherford Bixley at June 05, 2016 11:52 PM (FAPLK)

______

Taking notes furiously. Tell me more...

Posted by: Guy Writing DNC Platform at June 06, 2016 12:04 AM (0LHZx)

79 Is Mansbridge the transitioning point between man and not-man?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 06, 2016 12:05 AM (IqV8l)

80 French is no Perot, he's got the charisma of a liver wort.

Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 06, 2016 12:05 AM (bDzJM)

81 59
Hola, amigoz en loz intertuboz!!!
Posted by: cthulhu at June 05, 2016 11:52 PM (EzgxV)
----------------

Greetingz-o! I do not speak Spanish, but tonight I shall sleep in an Inn de Holiday!

Posted by: iforgot at June 05, 2016 11:57 PM (5o5ek)



Express-o? O el Inn de Holiday regulario? Don't be embarasada, either way!

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 12:05 AM (EzgxV)

82 But andy now you've reminded me it's been some time since I've had carmenere, the "lost grape" of Bordeaux that found its calling in Chile (as with malbec, for Argentina).


I've only ever seen a few single-vineyard 100% carmeneres over the last few years, and they were fantastic (to me). Many don't like the taste of carmenere (as many look down on the taste of pinotage, from South Africa).


Must be my immense generosity of spirit and open-mindedness that allow me to enjoy those two. That, or I'm a wine-slut. Hmmm.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2016 12:05 AM (QDnY+)

83 You know, Edinburgh has a 25-pound Howitzer that they fire every day at 1300. Perhaps it could be repurposed for Ms. Manbridge's lecture.

Posted by: pookysgirl at June 06, 2016 12:05 AM (K27gs)

84 I can't recall when (mid or late 19th C.?) but a
blight wiped out alot of French vines and American ones from California
were used to replant them. It might have been for one particular type,
like Cabernet grapes or whatever, as I now vaguely recall. Probably
something through Bing about it.
Posted by: andycanuck at June 05, 2016 11:59 PM (PLnZs)


All European vines were hit by phylloxera aphid which is a not-so-serious pest on native American grapes.
It just about wiped out European and specifically French winemaking

The only solutions were to grow the vines in sterile sand, basically hydroponic in the field, or to graft the wine grapes onto American root stock which had greater resistance.
This is typically done today even in the US, though there are some wineries that do full euro rootstock in Oregon, with resultant phylloxera issues here.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 06, 2016 12:07 AM (ry34m)

85 Did a comment just vanish?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2016 12:07 AM (GFzi9)

86
does Jane Mansbridge of Harvard have sex with anything?



prolly just fat chicks

Posted by: Jake at June 06, 2016 12:03 AM (YNyCj)


A sawzall with a hemi.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 06, 2016 12:07 AM (JO9+V)

87
Express-o? O el Inn de Holiday regulario? Don't be embarasada, either way!
Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 12:05 AM (EzgxV)
------------------

Express-o! Same answer for my favorite beverage.

Posted by: iforgot at June 06, 2016 12:07 AM (5o5ek)

88 Oddly enough, I read the American vines thing as a sentence or two in one of the There Will Be War sci-fi anthology short stories. The Brits start a war with France by biologically destroying all their vineyards thinking without wine, French society will collapse. However, the French retaliate by wiping out the world's tea supply and win the war with the world siding with the French and American vines replacing French ones. (Included something about Islam giving up the alcohol prohibition too---well, it is science fiction after all!)

Posted by: andycanuck at June 06, 2016 12:08 AM (PLnZs)

89 It's a very nice 'nabe. But it's probably 98% white.

But not during weekdays when their yards are being worked on!

Posted by: t-bird at June 06, 2016 12:08 AM (Z58Xa)

90 Having transportation that lets you just pack up and move is something
the feudal lord can not tolerate. If the serfs can just move somewhere
else, the feudal state can't enslave you.



"Vote with your feet", that's what Reagan said. They hated Ronald Reagan.

Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 06, 2016 12:08 AM (bDzJM)

91 I will say though that when I was in my 20s, single, no kids, living downtown was a blast. I lived in a shitty (but cheap) apartment, and could walk home from many a bar/club. I owned a car but rarely drove.

But today, with kids, no fucking way in hell am I living anywhere near there.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 06, 2016 12:08 AM (0LHZx)

92 Ah - I think Jay's on the track here, it was phylloxera-resistant rootstock that was used to restore damaged European vineyards. I thought it was mostly from South American sources, but not sure.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2016 12:08 AM (QDnY+)

93 89 It's a very nice 'nabe. But it's probably 98% white.

But not during weekdays when their yards are being worked on!
Posted by: t-bird at June 06, 2016 12:08 AM (Z58Xa)

_____

Probably not. Although in the case of my friend, he is his own landscaping crew. He's one of these dudes who will do everything himself, with the "I can do it better than others" mentality. And his lawn does look superb.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 06, 2016 12:09 AM (0LHZx)

94 It was actually grape rootstock from Texas that saved the French wine industry.

http://bit.ly/1UlHLhm

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at June 06, 2016 12:09 AM (nvMvs)

95 Yes, whatever you do, don't be pregnant.

Posted by: t-bird at June 06, 2016 12:10 AM (Z58Xa)

96 "The answer hit me during my second trip:
everyone there is white except for a few Asians and Indians. The dang
city is whiter than Iceland.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at June 05, 2016 11:48 PM (nvMvs)"


You have heard of "Sunset Towns", which were towns that had a law making it illegal for black people to be within the city limits after sun down? Oregon was a sunset state. By state law it was illegal for black people to be in Oregon after sundown.

One of the more obsessive aspects of the progressive Democrats who run Portland is the way they lust for light rail. There are actually some blacks who live in Portland and like most other places they have more than their share of problems. One of those problems is that the City of Portland has applied for federal grants based on the conditions of the black citizens of Portland ant then taken the federal money that it receives to mitigate those problems and spends it on light rail.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 06, 2016 12:10 AM (QHgTq)

97
"Why We Need More and More State Coercion"





Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 06, 2016 12:00 AM



So much for rebelling against "The Man". Yet The Left still bangs on about that shit.

Posted by: otho at June 06, 2016 12:10 AM (EWg9n)

98 Taking notes furiously. Tell me more...

Posted by: Guy Writing DNC Platform at June 06, 2016 12:04 AM


Thomas Paine ran away from home at an early age to escape the hard labor of making corset stays. Somehow he got himself appointed to a government job as customs inspector but got into trouble over not doing his inspections and taking bribes.

So he ran away again, to the Colonies in America where he inspired a revolt against the King.

So, somehow, you need to build a wall to keep people from escaping.

Posted by: Rupert Rutherford Bixley at June 06, 2016 12:10 AM (FAPLK)

99 Their Eunuch Muslim Admiral...

Posted by: sven10077 at June 05, 2016 11:51 PM (g8Hfr)


If you got to have muslims, they are the best kind.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 06, 2016 12:10 AM (GSdpU)

100 They will pry the deed to my suburban home from my cold dead hands...

Posted by: Jake at June 06, 2016 12:11 AM (YNyCj)

101 Speaking of Mexico...anyone watch the MEX-URU game? It is official, the fix is if for el-tri to win the Copa. First they plated the wrong anthem for Uruguay and then allowed a goal on offside.

Phuck that shit.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 06, 2016 12:11 AM (0LHZx)

102 The joke I embedded in the faux Spanish is that "embarasada" does not mean "embarrassed" -- it means "pregnant" (which is why it is only found in the '-a' female form instead of the '-o' male).

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 12:12 AM (EzgxV)

103 If grape seeds germinate in the compost pile, why don't bell pepper seeds?



And how do you propagate seedless grapes?



And how many dandelion blossoms do you need to make dandelion wine?



Posted by: Rupert Rutherford Bixley at June 06, 2016 12:03 AM (FAPLK)


a) because you seed then while green, not when they are fully ripe
b) grafting
c) a good shopping bag full, and pound then flat before scalding them and adding the yeast (did that in high school)

Posted by: Kindltot at June 06, 2016 12:12 AM (ry34m)

104 "New from Ish'allah Motors, the Eunuch Admiral. It can comfortably sit you with your 26 wives in back."

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2016 12:12 AM (GFzi9)

105 LOL, rhomboid.

Just this evening I watched a Frasier episode featuring Niles as the "Corkmaster" of the wine club he and Frasier belong to.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 06, 2016 12:12 AM (PLnZs)

106 >>does Jane Mansbridge of Harvard have sex with anything?


The World's Saddest Sybian

Posted by: garrett at June 06, 2016 12:12 AM (6kxiP)

107 So, Champagne comes from Mustang grape rootstock. Texas.


Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 06, 2016 12:12 AM (bDzJM)

108 The journey offered stark contrasts, with the crew battling winds, ice and rain - but also calm waters, sunshine and even the wedding of two of its crew members on Greenland.

Please tell me one of them was a woman.

Posted by: rickl at June 06, 2016 12:13 AM (sdi6R)

109 You know the GOP is doomed if I get back to 3600...

Posted by: sven10077 at June 05, 2016 11:56 PM (g8Hfr)


By November, he'll probably be posting OVER 9000...

Posted by: The Meme Hat at June 06, 2016 12:13 AM (vBeA5)

110 81----Don't be embarasada, either way!
Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 12:05 AM (EzgxV)
-----------------------
Heh. "Embarazada" means "pregnant," not "embarrassed."

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 06, 2016 12:13 AM (T/5A0)

111 102 The joke I embedded in the faux Spanish is that "embarasada" does not mean "embarrassed" -- it means "pregnant" (which is why it is only found in the '-a' female form instead of the '-o' male).

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 12:12 AM (EzgxV)



.....and I see that t-bird @95 got it.....but didn't share.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 12:14 AM (EzgxV)

112 The Ace Goku goes all Kamehamehameha ....

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2016 12:14 AM (GFzi9)

113 I like Portland (family all lives in the area), but I doubt I could stand living there.

I usually make a trip up once a year to visit the folks, and make a pilgrimage to Powell's.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 06, 2016 12:14 AM (CsDz7)

114 just take in this poster for an upcoming lecture at the University of Edinburgh, where a distinguished Harvard professor will make the case openly for why people like her should have more power over everyone else:

---------

*sproing*

Hey, get a load a my mansbridge.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 06, 2016 12:15 AM (/f6Nd)

115 110 81----Don't be embarasada, either way!
Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 12:05 AM (EzgxV)
-----------------------
Heh. "Embarazada" means "pregnant," not "embarrassed."

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 06, 2016 12:13 AM (T/5A0)



Ms. DeVille shared....

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 12:15 AM (EzgxV)

116 Very good, Michael the Hobbit. Bravo!

Posted by: andycanuck at June 06, 2016 12:16 AM (PLnZs)

117 Another is that suburbs, unlike central cities or university campuses, actually have populations with diverse opinions. On any suburban cul-de-sac you can find people who vote both Republican and Democratic. Good luck trying that in Manhattan or Harvard.

______

Not true. There is a lot of diversity. Some are communists, some are socialists, some are fascists, some are enviro-nazis, some are man hating transgendered lesbians, some are man hating transgendered homosexuals.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 06, 2016 12:17 AM (0LHZx)

118 102 -- it means "pregnant" (which is why it is only found in the '-a' female form instead of the '-o' male).
Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 12:12 AM (EzgxV)
-------------------------------------
BIGOT.
How dare you suggest that a man can't get pregnant?!?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 06, 2016 12:17 AM (T/5A0)

119 24
Don't think that dyke bitch from the EPA and the vermin in the DOJ aren't crafting ways to shutter the coal-fired Power plants.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 05, 2016 11:45 PM (89T5c)
------------------

And don't think Paul Ryan will fund their dismantling.
Posted by: iforgot at June 05, 2016 11:47 PM (5o5ek)


Government will just sell the factories to the Chicoms for a $1, and then let them dismantle them and ship them back to China.

Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 06, 2016 12:18 AM (1JnAL)

120 Express-o? O el Inn de Holiday regulario? Don't be embarasada, either way!

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 12:05 AM (EzgxV)


You can't get knocked up at a Holiday Inn? Do tell?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 06, 2016 12:18 AM (GSdpU)

121 something like 80% of the state of Oregon lives in Portland

So the poor saps in
John Day
Bend
La Grande
Ontairo
Baker City
Vale....


get hosed by the hipsters

Posted by: Jake at June 06, 2016 12:18 AM (YNyCj)

122 Evening morons, how fares the horde?

Son of Crank will be 2 years old on Flag Day. Much reason for celebration there.

Niece, on the other hand...pull up a chair and a drink, cause you'll want one with this story.

After almost exactly 8 months of residential treatment, she came home the end of May. No incidents the last 3 weeks at the facility, and she was actually showing interest in starting at the Catholic high school we wanted to enroll her in. The school staff has experience with RAD children, and in 1 year took a failing public school student to a graduate with college prospects.

Thee was some defiance and boundary testing last week, which was expected. One major meltdown when we barged into her bedroom because Mrs. Crank thought she smelled cigarettes. No smoking gun found and her hair smelled like she might have burned it while styling, so we let it go. It almost certainly was a cigarette, but that's small potatoes now.

Today, she was expected to clean her room, because CPS was all up in our @sses 2 weeks ago on an "anonymous report" that we didn't want her back in the house, and they were supposed to return this Monday. Before lunch, I asked if the room was clean and she had in fact done it. I then asked what was her plan for the messin the closet. Didn't demand she clean it right away or even today, just asked for a plan.

Well.

First came the yelling that there was no space. I visually confirmed that she had about 6 feet of unused hangar rod and told her that she could find space. She then claimed it was all Mrs. Crank's stuff in there--patently false but I stated that in that case I would move out the wife's items so she had space. She refused that and screamed she didn't want me touching her underwear, and that she'd get someone else to help.

"You can't have it both ways," I explained. Either it was her stuff or not, and either she or I would move it. Then came the screaming about wanting to go to foster care or back to grandmother--who signed custody to us after she was content to leave her abandoned in Akron, homeless. Tempting as fostering her out sounds, it means CPS would probably f*ck us for life with adoption and put Son of Crank at risk of being removed, so can't have that.

She stormed outside, with a razor she stole from Mrs. Crank, and unknown to me started cutting her wrist. I went out but kept a distance, when Son of Crank got close and I followed she went back in. Asked brother in law to get her so we could go meet Mrs. Crank at work. Seconds later he comes out, "She's sticking something in her hand, there's blood everywhere."

Now thanks to CPS, we already had almost everything sharp we could find locked up. I found her by kitchen table, a few small bleeding wounds, and picking at them with a Bobby pin. I demanded she surrender them and she refused. I tried to grab them and she bit me once, and refused to stop.

I called 911 and asked them to send deputies for attempted suicide. She continues to try to injure herself and I had to put her in a reverse headlock until I could disarm her, during which she scratched and bit my arm multiple times but I kept control and didn't hit her or crush her windpipe. She laid on the ground crying and accusing me of trying to choke her out while I kept talking to 911, then ran up the stairs and grabbed a pair of scissors along the way. I had to tackle her again in her room and pin her down again until I got the scissors, which I legitimately thought she might try to stab me with. Deputies finally arrived and after I told her I'd drag her down the stairs if she didn't go peacefully, she walked down the steps.

As soon as the deputy walked in she began trying to plead her case, but he wasn't having it--they've been out before for her, and dispatch and the state of the house confirmed my story. EMS hauled her to Children's, where she tried to bullsh*t the social worker and play Mrs. Crank against me without success. She's slated for an inpatient psych bed tomorrow.

Meanwhile, I'm planning to file assault and battery charges and a restraining order. She may have just bought a one-way ticket to a life of sh*t, because I was literally the last person in the family to give her a chance.

So, when all was said and done I went to Hofbrauhaus and had a fantastic meal and some beer. There's a visible contusion where she bit me, should be nice for the prosecutor.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at June 06, 2016 12:18 AM (gVpIT)

123 Thomas Paine ran away from home at an early age to escape the hard labor of making corset stays.
He didn't want to be busted.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 06, 2016 12:19 AM (PLnZs)

124 Kindltot at June 06, 2016 12:12 AM
LOL

I suspected that someone would have the answer for the first two, but I was surprised that you had the answers to all three.

I shouldn't be surprised that someone in the horde knows how to make dandelion wine.

When I was a kid we had neighbors who drank a lot, as in constantly. They came over one afternoon with a bottle of home made dandelion wine and passed the bottle around. Everyone took a taste, even me, a kid. Then the guy took a big swig, and promptly projectile hurled, catching his dentures in mid spew preventing his dentures from going over the railing of the pontoon boat into the deepest part of the lake.

Posted by: Rupert Rutherford Bixley at June 06, 2016 12:21 AM (FAPLK)

125 101 Speaking of Mexico...anyone watch the MEX-URU game? It is official, the fix is if for el-tri to win the Copa. First they plated the wrong anthem for Uruguay and then allowed a goal on offside.

Phuck that shit.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 06, 2016 12:11 AM (0LHZx)

Mexician fans are the worst, with throwing crap at the Uruguay players after the goal. Fights in the stands etc, they are garbage.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 06, 2016 12:21 AM (c4yY7)

126 So much for rebelling against "The Man". Yet The Left still bangs on about that shit.
Posted by: otho at June 06, 2016 12:10 AM (EWg9n)



The "Man" is no longer government, the Man is now "the corporations, man".

Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac speaks Libtard at June 06, 2016 12:21 AM (1JnAL)

127 I knew Top Gear would be crap without the three guys who made it what it is, and I was right.
They should have suspended him for a while. Throw some anger management counseling or alcohol abuse counseling (to make it look tough), and then brought him back.
Bet their ratings are in the sh*tter, which is where they should be.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 06, 2016 12:21 AM (hVdx9)

128 Leftists have been doing the "buy and destroy" thing for a long time. They buy big swaths of land and disallow any economic activity on the land. It's legal and it's a clever way to get their agenda pushed through. Using capitalism against the capitalists.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 06, 2016 12:21 AM (0LHZx)

129 OK, I've missed some threads, so I need a glossary.

Who is Trigglypuff, and what does FAB mean?

I think the first one was Ms. Jeanty, Travon Martin's friend?

I think the other is HRC. What's FAB? Fully Automatic Bitch? First At Bourbon?

Help a fellow out.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 06, 2016 12:22 AM (n5sLw)

130
The joke I embedded in the faux Spanish is that "embarasada" does not mean "embarrassed" -- it means "pregnant" (which is why it is only found in the '-a' female form instead of the '-o' male).
Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 12:12 AM (EzgxV)
------------------

Dang, I knew that rang a bell.

Albondigas, mi amigo.

Posted by: iforgot at June 06, 2016 12:22 AM (5o5ek)

131 122 - really sorry to hear all this. You did what you could. I'm impressed with your patience, I don't think I could have kept that kind of control.

Posted by: Dr Alice at June 06, 2016 12:23 AM (Vycn3)

132
FAB = Fat Assed Bitch. Hang on, I'll get you trigglypuff although I'm sure someone else will beat me to it.

Posted by: iforgot at June 06, 2016 12:23 AM (5o5ek)

133 Mexician fans are the worst, with throwing crap at the Uruguay players after the goal. Fights in the stands etc, they are garbage.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 06, 2016 12:21 AM (c4yY7)

___

Philly fans look at them and think, dudes, chill the fuck out.

But yeah they're awful. Lots of lawns in and around Phoenix will not be looking good tomorrow since 70K yard workers will be too hung over to work.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 06, 2016 12:23 AM (0LHZx)

134 >>There's a visible contusion where she bit me, should be nice for the prosecutor.


If you need a Dentist to look at that, Tim Whatley is your guy.

(And sorry to hear about your awful day.)

Posted by: Cosmo Kramer at June 06, 2016 12:24 AM (6kxiP)

135 I followed Dalrymple's quote back to the Taki article whence it came. It concerned a story about an ISIS execution of 45 troops who'd run from a fight. Dalrymple took the time to do some head-tilting about some website commenters who dropped by that story to say stuff like "good riddance".

Because, in a way, we're all just like the ISIS guys, given opportunity.

Dalrymple should tilt his head back to a forward-facing orientation. Would make it easier to REMOVE IT FROM HIS BUTT.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 06, 2016 12:24 AM (6FqZa)

136 Ouch, in more ways than one, CC.

I think someone said 'proverbs don't become true until you live them.' Alas that girl is going to find out how sucky and mean things really are. Will she learn and become the prodigal? I hope for her sake but it just might take a lot of pig troughs to do it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2016 12:25 AM (GFzi9)

137 Anyone know triggerlypuffs name?

other than that hot earthquake of sex?

Posted by: Jake at June 06, 2016 12:26 AM (YNyCj)

138 Mexician fans are the worst, with throwing crap at the Uruguay players after the goal. Fights in the stands etc, they are garbage.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 06, 2016 12:21 AM (c4yY7)


They are Mexicans, it's to be expected.

Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac, at June 06, 2016 12:26 AM (1JnAL)

139 I'm 100% sure the national anthem switch-aroo was done on purpose as a fuck you to Uruguay by the Mexican team and their fans.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 06, 2016 12:26 AM (0LHZx)

140 Dammit, Crank.
I have nothing to say other than that I will pray for you, and ask my friends/family to do the same. You don't deserve this.

Posted by: Chi at June 06, 2016 12:26 AM (P48fh)

141 Crank... that's heartbreaking, sir. And I salute you for going way the hell above the call of mere duty there, too.

Sounds like the young lass is related to my older brother, in the out-of-control department. He's 60 now, and finally seems to have realized that life is better when ya followz the rulez.

Pity it took him multiple jail and prison terms, and a rapsheet that could double as a Tolstoy manuscript.

But yeah, you're making the right call to draw the hard line, here and now.

I hate to sound callous, but it's just like puppies at the pound. "Can't save 'em all".

You tried, valiantly.

A toast of the Bourbon to you, sir!

*cheers!*


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 06, 2016 12:26 AM (v5iqM)

142 Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at June 06, 2016 12:18 AM (gVpIT)
WOW just WOW.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 06, 2016 12:27 AM (c4yY7)

143 Tilikum, saw your comment re 91/30 sights in last thread. Don't have a Mauser, but I like the 91/30 irons just fine. Finally bought a little aluminum sight-mover thinggy that I can use to adjust windage on the front sights.

I have several Mosins and they all have different height front sight posts. So each rifle has its own "hold" below a target in the sight picture. But I prefer to just modify my practices (I have a book with each rifle's peculiarities listed in detail) instead of grinding down the front sight post (or, good gawd, replacing a post with a new, bigger one if the original's too short, far too much work).


Shellac finish on most of them were gone (flaky, messed up), so I haven't been shy about re-shellacking them. Going to do a few in the next few weeks and will try to duplicate the deep brownish-red one sees on the ones with their Ukrainian or Russian re-arsenal look.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2016 12:27 AM (QDnY+)

144 How irate can Latin American sports fans get?

1969 Soccer War between El Salvador and Honduras. This conflict also marked the last combat missions for the P-51 Mustang and F4U Corsair.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2016 12:27 AM (GFzi9)

145 137 Anyone know triggerlypuffs name?

other than that hot earthquake of sex?
Posted by: Jake at June 06, 2016 12:26 AM (YNyCj)



Miss Thereaintenoughpeanutbutterintheworld

Posted by: Toby the Beagle at June 06, 2016 12:28 AM (1JnAL)

146 Anna--I doubt it at this point. Maybe a couple more years of intensive therapy, but still not likely. She refuses all agency.

I won't deny her she had a sh*tty childhood. But the world doesn't owe her anything, and she must own her own actions and reactions. Refused to do so.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at June 06, 2016 12:28 AM (gVpIT)

147 Anna Puma at June 06, 2016 12:02 AM (GFzi9)

"So my furry friend, that was delish, whats up for the 2nd course?"

Posted by: Bob in Houston at June 06, 2016 12:29 AM (b7AU3)

148 There's some weird shenanigans going oin where I live. The inner city is getting shut down and is destined for high rise. They're driving the music venues, clubs and pubs out of business. They want the current people to fuck off. Getting mighty pissed off about the city planning. They've instituded no late drinking, no partying, no eating regulations... without onerous requirements and licences. Everything that made living in this city is now naughty and undesirable. Councils are banning smoking in suburbs... anywhere... nada. This is not the city of my youth anymore.

Posted by: otho at June 06, 2016 12:29 AM (EWg9n)

149 Trigglypuff = Cora Segal.

Posted by: Dr Alice at June 06, 2016 12:30 AM (Vycn3)

150
Trigglypuff Origins:

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/trigglypuff

Trigglypuff condensed:

http://___ur.com/aTQfWQj

Posted by: iforgot at June 06, 2016 12:31 AM (5o5ek)

151 Trigglypuff = the Coral Sea?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2016 12:31 AM (jFXTk)

152 144 How irate can Latin American sports fans get?

____

The English fans of the 70s/80s were nothing to write home about either. And in Netherlands, they were chanting about gassing Jews last year when their team played Ajax, which has a Jewish history.

Assholes in soccer are all over. But Mexicans seem to be the drunkest and most violent on a consistent basis.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 06, 2016 12:31 AM (0LHZx)

153 Heh. A friend of mine (uber conservative) and his wife (thinks Moochelle is the greatest woman alive) live in one of these places. Whenever I visit I mention how it's so weird that there are no non-white people anywhere within a mile of their house. He snorts, she gives me the evil eye.

It's a very nice 'nabe. But it's probably 98% white. My sister, the big Hillary fan also lives in such a place.



Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 06, 2016 12:02 AM (0LHZx)

I don't understand how a marriage like that can survive. No woman is that good in bed.

Posted by: Blano at June 06, 2016 12:31 AM (lbcdD)

154 The Dixie Chicks are going after Trump?

Who knew thew were still around?

Posted by: Jake at June 06, 2016 12:31 AM (YNyCj)

155 122 conservative crank,

Tough to read I am not sure criminal charges will stick but she may be declared incompetent.

Posted by: Sven10077 at June 06, 2016 12:32 AM (FYqfs)

156 118 102 -- it means "pregnant" (which is why it is only found in the '-a' female form instead of the '-o' male).
Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 12:12 AM (EzgxV)
-------------------------------------
BIGOT.
How dare you suggest that a man can't get pregnant?!?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 06, 2016 12:17 AM (T/5A0)




HOW DARE YOU!!! Clearly "pregnancy" deserves a '-a' suffix, or you deny female-identifying transgenders of traditional signs of pregnancy!!!!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 12:32 AM (EzgxV)

157 Anna, were there P-51 missions after '69, perhaps, in Vietnam?


One of my time-machine ideas is to go back to the mid-60s, take a sack of cash down to El Salvador/Honduras, and bring back a few Corsairs.


Of course the ultimate "mission" would be to time-travel back to late 1945, early 1946, with lots of cash (for those days) - buy up two of everything you could get your hands on, and build some decent storage space near Mojave.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2016 12:32 AM (QDnY+)

158 139 I'm 100% sure the national anthem switch-aroo was done on purpose as a fuck you to Uruguay by the Mexican team and their fans.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 06, 2016 12:26 AM (0LHZx)


Tournament is being played in the US, so the Messicans had nothing to do with it.

It was probably some lazy Millenial that Googled "Uruguay" and got "Uganda" instead, figured that was close enough because she needed to text that bitch Bree-Anne back about bringing her jacket that she borrowed the night before back.

Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 06, 2016 12:33 AM (1JnAL)

159 152 144 How irate can Latin American sports fans get?

____

The English fans of the 70s/80s were nothing to write home about either. And in Netherlands, they were chanting about gassing Jews last year when their team played Ajax, which has a Jewish history.

Assholes in soccer are all over. But Mexicans seem to be the drunkest and most violent on a consistent basis.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 06, 2016 12:31 AM (0LHZx)

Wasn't it Brazil fans who straight up murdered a ref during or after a friendly last year?

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at June 06, 2016 12:33 AM (gVpIT)

160 fight for a title prize

not for country

I'm an Amish Muslim

I'm Muhammed Ali

Posted by: seamrog at June 06, 2016 12:34 AM (lT3JL)

161 As noted in the previous thread, the whole David French thing, to include his vomitus, er, scribblings upon his decision to not "run", are speechlessness-inducing (to coin a very, very clumsy term that will die here, tonight).

Posted by: rhomboid at June 05, 2016 11:53 PM (QDnY+)
-------------

Well hell, there goes a lot of potential fun and entertainment. His campaign would have been as good as the one for "The Rent is Too damned High" guy.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 06, 2016 12:34 AM (NUqwG)

162 Jane Mansbridge has a nice comfy cell ready for all of us.

Evil, deranged, stupid bitch.

Posted by: eman at June 06, 2016 12:35 AM (MQEz6)

163 Wasn't it Brazil fans who straight up murdered a ref during or after a friendly last year?
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at June 06, 2016 12:33 AM (gVpIT)

_______

True.

And the Colombian player who scored on his own goal was capped a while back too. Although there's some dispute whether that was related to his own goal or just straight up Colombian violence.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 06, 2016 12:35 AM (0LHZx)

164 151 Trigglypuff = the Coral Sea?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2016 12:31 AM (jFXTk)


Hey, I wasn't sunk, I'm stuck in one of her fat rolls.

Posted by: USS Lexington at June 06, 2016 12:35 AM (1JnAL)

165 Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at June 06, 2016 12:28 AM (gVpIT)

I'm very sorry.

It sounds like she has some severe mental health issues. Is that what you're referring to by "residential treatment?"

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at June 06, 2016 12:35 AM (nvMvs)

166 Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at June 06, 2016 12:18 AM (gVpIT)



Whoof!!!! That's quite an update, there. How are you doin'? How is SoC?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 12:35 AM (EzgxV)

167 knew Top Gear would be crap without the three guys who made it what it is, and I was right.
They should have suspended him for a while. Throw some anger management counseling or alcohol abuse counseling (to make it look tough), and then brought him back.
Bet their ratings are in the sh*tter, which is where they should be.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 06, 2016 12:21 AM (hVdx9)

The ratings were not as high as with as last year, and no it was time to go. The BBC didn't like Jeremy making fun of green cars, so they sent in a producer that was politically correct and to rein them in. They were making his like a living hell with all the demands.

The new show is not funny at all, the old show was very well done. I am still amazed by the Spain episode with the abandoned airport and town.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 06, 2016 12:36 AM (c4yY7)

168 123 Thomas Paine ran away from home at an early age to escape the hard labor of making corset stays.
He didn't want to be busted.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 06, 2016 12:19 AM (PLnZs)




*golf clap*

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 12:36 AM (EzgxV)

169 In the 1980s the flyable Honduran Corsairs were returned to the US, except Capt. DeSoto's F4U-5 with five victory markings. One story about the A-26 that also came back, it still had live machine guns installed.

It wasn't until about 1985 time frame that the Dominican Air Force finally retired its last 10 Cavalier rebuilt Mustangs, all that was left of the 42 P-51Ds that country had purchased from Sweden after WWII.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2016 12:36 AM (jFXTk)

170 Tournament is being played in the US, so the Messicans had nothing to do with it.

It was probably some lazy Millenial that Googled "Uruguay" and got "Uganda" instead, figured that was close enough because she needed to text that bitch Bree-Anne back about bringing her jacket that she borrowed the night before back.
Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 06, 2016 12:33 AM (1JnAL)

_____

The tournament is in the US physically but not culturally. The people running it are not Americans.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 06, 2016 12:36 AM (0LHZx)

171 Lefties are, well, let me give a recent example. I had to deal with a couple of old cousins who are batshit lefties. One is the wife of a college English professor (he's passed, now), and that's how she got indoctrinated.

She tells me about how we're all racists, the whole damn family and everybody. And she is Not-A-Racist. No, sir. But I've noticed something about these Not-A-Racists. They are obsessed with race (and gender and sexual preference). Everyone she talks about, well, the race is one of the things she first mentions.

This is their whole world. Nothing else matters. When they see a person, they are, and only are, their race, gender, and sexuality. That's all there is. They see everything in these term. Anything else doesn't matter, if it even occurs to them at all.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 06, 2016 12:37 AM (DW+jj)

172 162 Jane Mansbridge has a nice comfy cell ready for all of us.

Evil, deranged, stupid bitch.

Posted by: eman at June 06, 2016 12:35 AM (MQEz6)

Comfy? Negative, comrade. The suffering helps clear the mind for the re-education.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at June 06, 2016 12:37 AM (gVpIT)

173 Good grief, Crank. At the point she's running around wildly with sharp objects, you're lucky you're the one who got hurt, not your son. Good luck with the charges and keeping her out of your house.

Posted by: pookysgirl at June 06, 2016 12:37 AM (K27gs)

174 Best spisode was the Argentina one where they were attacked by the Argentines. Still not sure how "real" it was, but it was interesting.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 06, 2016 12:38 AM (0LHZx)

175 Interesting, Anna. The Honduran Corsairs came back to the US. Never knew that.


In the early 1980s I had occasion to fly in a Canadian Forces' DC-3 (from Edmonton to Cold Lake, in case andy or AOP are about).


Crew told me the plane had been sold to Honduras in the 60s, and then retrieved/purchased back in the late 1970s.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2016 12:39 AM (QDnY+)

176 158 139 I'm 100% sure the national anthem switch-aroo was done on purpose as a fuck you to Uruguay by the Mexican team and their fans.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 06, 2016 12:26 AM (0LHZx)


Tournament is being played in the US, so the Messicans had nothing to do with it.

It was probably some lazy Millenial that Googled "Uruguay" and got "Uganda" instead, figured that was close enough because she needed to text that bitch Bree-Anne back about bringing her jacket that she borrowed the night before back.
Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 06, 2016 12:33 AM (1JnAL)

It was said that it was the Mex Fed that was in charge of that event so it could be true.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 06, 2016 12:39 AM (c4yY7)

177 Son of Crank is well, Elder God.

Residential is a long-term treatment facility, but not a hospital. Betty Ford for psych issues, if you will.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at June 06, 2016 12:39 AM (gVpIT)

178 *golf clap*
[bows; hits head on keyboard table] Ouch!

Posted by: andycanuck at June 06, 2016 12:40 AM (PLnZs)

179 Talked to a young person (20 y/o) today about politics. They support Trump (1st choice was katshit, because my guess would the persons parents liked him?).

This person is going to the convention in Cleveland. Also I did a bad thing, I told them about the HQ. They had no idea who Andrew was, let alone the head Ewok. Just gave me some faith that people in this Country are not all bad. I am totally gonna try to talk this person into writing some updates from the convention floor (video and audio) or even just text.

The best website on the interwebs is how I refer to this place when telling anyone who will listen. And it is...

The Horde abides...

Posted by: prophet of the Elysian Fields at the end of Group W bench at June 06, 2016 12:41 AM (KIJKy)

180
Alan Grayson supports Bernie, and Obama supports Alan Grayson's primary opponent.

Posted by: iforgot at June 06, 2016 12:41 AM (5o5ek)

181 148 There's some weird shenanigans going oin where I live. The inner city is getting shut down and is destined for high rise. They're driving the music venues, clubs and pubs out of business. They want the current people to fuck off. Getting mighty pissed off about the city planning. They've instituded no late drinking, no partying, no eating regulations... without onerous requirements and licences. Everything that made living in this city is now naughty and undesirable. Councils are banning smoking in suburbs... anywhere... nada. This is not the city of my youth anymore.

Posted by: otho at June 06, 2016 12:29 AM (EWg9n)



What's the city?



.....and are you sure that Yoko Ono festivals are the treatment for what ails it?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 12:41 AM (EzgxV)

182 As for just after WWII, yeah.

Bell needed two light-weight four bladed propellers for their P-39 test aircraft with swept-wings because of a CG issue. Just one propeller would have cost $1,500. So Bell went and bought two surplus Q model P-39s with the correct propellers, paid $1,500, and got two extra airframes.

I think a surplus B-17 sold for $3,500 in 1945.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2016 12:41 AM (jFXTk)

183 Of course the ultimate "mission" would be to
time-travel back to late 1945, early 1946, with lots of cash (for those
days) - buy up two of everything you could get your hands on, and build
some decent storage space near Mojave.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2016 12:32 AM (QDnY+)


Hit Nagasaki Arsenal in a last minute smash and grab to pick up ungodly amounts of Arisakas and Type 100 sub-guns.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 06, 2016 12:41 AM (ry34m)

184 AOP has probably been, rhomboid, but I've only ever been as far west as Saskatchewan near the Alberta border. I hope it was summer when you went.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 06, 2016 12:43 AM (PLnZs)

185 publius, these people you describe and that we all encounter and who are making life so much worse for everyone are, simply, not that bright. Stupid and smart come in lots of forms.


And "racist" is a term utterly devoid of meaning, except insofar as it usually denotes the opposite of its real meaning (those using the term are the racists).


Racism of any material import exists almost exclusively within "minority" communities and of course the degraded institutions grotesquely inverted to social engineer and otherwise address the infantile moral narcissism of those who have ruined things.


Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2016 12:45 AM (QDnY+)

186 174 Best spisode was the Argentina one where they were attacked by the Argentines. Still not sure how "real" it was, but it was interesting.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 06, 2016 12:38 AM (0LHZx)

That was Real, all three left the country by plane and made a big deal that they left thinking that tempers would calm down and give the crew a chance to get out, What's funny is they had no trouble in Syria.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 06, 2016 12:46 AM (c4yY7)

187 Here is FAH 600, an F4U-5.
http://www.warbirdregistry.org/corsairregistry/f4u-124724.html

This is DeSoto's F4U-5N FAH 609. Oh geez so much for memory, only three kills.
http://www.warbirdregistry.org/corsairregistry/f4u-fah609.html

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2016 12:46 AM (jFXTk)

188
Well hell, there goes a lot of potential fun and entertainment. His campaign would have been as good as the one for "The Rent is Too damned High" guy.
Posted by: RioBravo at June 06, 2016 12:34 AM (NUqwG)
----------------------

I say we start a meme and we all go around posting wherever we post that after much thought and prayer, we are not running for President.

Posted by: iforgot at June 06, 2016 12:46 AM (5o5ek)

189 Shoot, I remember waiting for Son of Crank to be born! Hard to believe he's two alreadyz,

Posted by: Alana at June 06, 2016 12:46 AM (Ib3dT)

190 177 Son of Crank is well, Elder God.

Residential is a long-term treatment facility, but not a hospital. Betty Ford for psych issues, if you will.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at June 06, 2016 12:39 AM (gVpIT)



There are events going on with the godkids that are reminding me that I'd charge into certain injury to save them from possible damage....and my primary fear with having a self-harming psycho nutcase at my house would be the possibility of harming a kid.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 12:47 AM (EzgxV)

191 What's the city?







.....and are you sure that Yoko Ono festivals are the treatment for what ails it?




Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 12:41 AM


Hey, C-man! It's Sydney. They're trying to shut down parties, gigs smoking and DRINKING, in Sydney... fucking Sydney, FFS. If I can't drink and smoke in Sydney, then I'm fucked. They want all us inner city people out, so they can build and sell high rise to the chinese. But, the chinese smoke like chimneys. That's gonna be fun to watch.

... and yes... if only we could get Yoko to do her thing here, there may be hope.

Posted by: otho at June 06, 2016 12:47 AM (EWg9n)

192 Sydney, Australia, otho?

Posted by: andycanuck at June 06, 2016 12:49 AM (PLnZs)

193 Like I said Anna, just (*just*) two of everything - not greedy or anything.


Kindltot, I was thinking just of US surplus. And for some reason not a huge fan of Japanese small arms, so I'd probably have gone for a few Zeros, an Oscar, a Betty, and of course a giant Kawanishi flying boat.


Oh - and yes thank you, I'll take all those Singer 1911s over there, and those factory model carbines the contractors kept around as examples, and a half-track, and .....

Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2016 12:50 AM (QDnY+)

194
The tournament is in the US physically but not culturally. The people running it are not Americans.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 06, 2016 12:36 AM (0LHZx)


The tournament is being run by CONCACAF and CONMEBOL, but the stadium operations staff would be American. Stadiums and arenas are loathed to give anyone the keys to the stadium operations. They will allow them to give them media to be played, but they won't allow them to actually physically install it in their computer systems.

Can't piss off the local union. And yes, the lighting, rigging, electrical, sound and video are usually union jobs.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper formerly MrCaniac at June 06, 2016 12:50 AM (1JnAL)

195 But the niece is definitely an on the other hand situation.

Posted by: Alana at June 06, 2016 12:50 AM (Ib3dT)

196 Tilikum, saw your comment re 91/30 sights in last thread. Don't have a Mauser, but I like the 91/30 irons just fine. Finally bought a little aluminum sight-mover thinggy that I can use to adjust windage on the front sights.

I have several Mosins and they all have different height front sight posts. So each rifle has its own "hold" below a target in the sight picture. But I prefer to just modify my practices (I have a book with each rifle's peculiarities listed in detail) instead of grinding down the front sight post (or, good gawd, replacing a post with a new, bigger one if the original's too short, far too much work).


Shellac finish on most of them were gone (flaky, messed up), so I haven't been shy about re-shellacking them. Going to do a few in the next few weeks and will try to duplicate the deep brownish-red one sees on the ones with their Ukrainian or Russian re-arsenal look.

Posted by: rhomboid
****

91/30s are like potato chips. You can't have just one. I have 3 myself.
I noticed mine have their quirks too. Once you get to know them, they shoot well enough. I have been lucky with mine as far as windage. They didn't need any adjusting.

I am with you about not grinding down sight posts etc. If they are too short it's an easy fix at least. A little coffee stir straw or heat shrink tubing cut to fit are what I have seen used.

I wish you luck on achieving the look. Done right it really is sharp.
A shame they have gone up to $250. While not a bad price, a lot of the best ones are gone and that $250 doesn't get you as nice a rifle as in the past

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 06, 2016 12:51 AM (hVdx9)

197 I have work in the morning, so must be off. Thanks for the well wishes. Will try to be a bit more regular here on the ONT. And must not taunt happy fun Maetenloch.

Stay frosty morons.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at June 06, 2016 12:51 AM (gVpIT)

198 Anna, great stuff as always, thanks.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2016 12:52 AM (QDnY+)

199 156
-------------------------------------
BIGOT.
How dare you suggest that a man can't get pregnant?!?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 06, 2016 12:17 AM -------------------------------
HOW DARE YOU!!! Clearly "pregnancy" deserves a '-a' suffix, or you deny female-identifying transgenders of traditional signs of pregnancy!!!!!!!
Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 12:32 AM (EzgxV)
-------------------------------

Y'no, we're definitely going to need a federal Department of Gender and Sexuality so that the enlightened ones can sort out and regulate the multifarious possible bigotries.
This is too confusing for the little people!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 06, 2016 12:52 AM (T/5A0)

200
Bryan Paglinano scheduled for Judicial Watch deposition tomorrow -- but that will be delayed while the judge peruses his Fifth Amendment arrangement with the FBI. By the way, how does one take the Fifth in a civil proceeding?

Huma deposed June 28, assuming she can remember what "June" and "28" mean. A lot of amnesia on that team.

Posted by: iforgot at June 06, 2016 12:52 AM (5o5ek)

201 191 What's the city?







.....and are you sure that Yoko Ono festivals are the treatment for what ails it?




Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 12:41 AM


Hey, C-man! It's Sydney. They're trying to shut down parties, gigs smoking and DRINKING, in Sydney... fucking Sydney, FFS. If I can't drink and smoke in Sydney, then I'm fucked. They want all us inner city people out, so they can build and sell high rise to the chinese. But, the chinese smoke like chimneys. That's gonna be fun to watch.

... and yes... if only we could get Yoko to do her thing here, there may be hope.

Posted by: otho at June 06, 2016 12:47 AM (EWg9n)




They're laying-off people right-and-left in Silicon Valley, and building 4-story housing like gangbusters. The traffic, the congestion, the retail....all about to take a massive shit. In the meantime, the "Silicon Valley" that used to, y'know, make semiconductors......is now all about munging together multiple databases to better profile 'consumers' [read as 'voters', 'jurors', 'citizens', 'sheep'].



I saw this coming some years back, and want out so bad I can taste it.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 12:55 AM (EzgxV)

202 Rhomboid, if that site is correct... 17 F4U-4 and F4U-5 Corsairs came out of Honduras.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2016 12:55 AM (jFXTk)

203 Yes, Tillikum, I forgot to mention - the coffee-stirrer fix for the Mosin front sight. Cost: $O. One of my favorite "redneck gunsmithing" tricks.


The one "mod" I'm going to play with is to put a small "salka" or short strip of oil-soaked felt around the barrel, around the area of the front barrel-band. Pretty well documented as a field-expedient "accurizing" method used by the soldats during the Velyikaya Otchestvennaya Voina. Easy, and reversible.


I shoot only east bloc surplus ammo but some day I expect I'll reload 54R and see the already decent accuracy improve. Just love the simplicity and toughness of those rifles. And I was lucky to amass my small pile when nice/interesting ones were easy to get for just over $100.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2016 12:57 AM (QDnY+)

204 The ratings were not as high as with as last year, and no it was time to go. The BBC didn't like Jeremy making fun of green cars, so they sent in a producer that was politically correct and to rein them in. They were making his like a living hell with all the demands.

The new show is not funny at all, the old show was very well done. I am still amazed by the Spain episode with the abandoned airport and town.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio
****

Well in that case I would have punched him too.
Amazing how deranged the left is. Kill the golden goose because it's not PC enough.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 06, 2016 12:58 AM (hVdx9)

205 The tournament is being run by CONCACAF and CONMEBOL, but the stadium operations staff would be American. Stadiums and arenas are loathed to give anyone the keys to the stadium operations. They will allow them to give them media to be played, but they won't allow them to actually physically install it in their computer systems.

Can't piss off the local union. And yes, the lighting, rigging, electrical, sound and video are usually union jobs.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper formerly MrCaniac at June 06, 2016 12:50 AM (1JnAL)

____

Gee I wonder if any of those "local" employees in Phoenix, might be recently arrived Mexican? Nah.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 06, 2016 12:58 AM (0LHZx)

206 I dunno, Rhomboid. Nagasaki would leave no footprint or paradox if you timed it right. Of course EXIT time is really important.
Arisaka type 99's are built to be nearly indestructible and user friendly.

Alternatively, Bannerman's had a lot of liquidation sales, which means far less struggle, just bring a large boat to New York harbor with ready cash in hand.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 06, 2016 12:58 AM (ry34m)

207
In the meantime, the "Silicon Valley" that used to, y'know, make semiconductors......is now all about munging together multiple databases to better profile 'consumers'
--------------------

That's the only business description I seem to read these days. Where are the actual products?

"We leverage your platform to launch a multi-filtering approach to the software-as-an-afterservice business model that exponentially transforms your data into vertical customer outreach and transrelational sales and marketing. Read our customer testimonials."

Posted by: iforgot at June 06, 2016 12:59 AM (5o5ek)

208 iforgot I like your meme idea re French's abortive presidential "run".


It really is a head-shaking, ridiculous situation calling for lots of harsh ridicule and childish carrying-on. And we're just the ones to do it.


To honor Maet's long-standing preference that primary-related stuff be kept off the ONT, I propose you launch this one tomorrow, day-time.


The Horde, when given a good topic, can rattle off some epic meme threads.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2016 01:00 AM (QDnY+)

209 Got to play with my PiZero today.....either I got a bad USB hub, or it appears that its USB out can only drive a keyboard, a mouse, or a wireless network adapter. I can well understand that with the 1A power I initially fed it with.....but then I changed to 2200 mA and it got worse.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 01:00 AM (EzgxV)

210 That's the only business description I seem to read these days. Where are the actual products?

"We leverage your platform to launch a multi-filtering approach to the software-as-an-afterservice business model that exponentially transforms your data into vertical customer outreach and transrelational sales and marketing. Read our customer testimonials."
Posted by: iforgot at June 06, 2016 12:59 AM (5o5ek)

____

Sounds neat. Here's $10M

Posted by: VCs at June 06, 2016 01:01 AM (0LHZx)

211 "Why We Need More and More State Coercion" - Jane Mansbridge


"Of all the tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, but his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but thos who torment us for our own good will torment us with end for they do so with the approval of there own conscience." C.S. Lewis

Posted by: Puddleglum@work at June 06, 2016 01:01 AM (syGA0)

212 200
Bryan Paglinano scheduled for Judicial Watch deposition tomorrow -- but that will be delayed while the judge peruses his Fifth Amendment arrangement with the FBI. By the way, how does one take the Fifth in a civil proceeding?

Huma deposed June 28, assuming she can remember what "June" and "28" mean. A lot of amnesia on that team.
Posted by: iforgot at June 06, 2016 12:52 AM (5o5ek)


You take the 5th in a civil proceeding because all of your statements are "public record" and could be used against you in a criminal proceeding.

Don't forget, Bill Clinton was charged with perjury, a criminal act, for lying under oath in a civil case.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper formerly MrCaniac at June 06, 2016 01:02 AM (1JnAL)

213 Sydney, Australia, otho?




Posted by: andycanuck at June 06, 2016 12:49 AM


Yeah. There's some push back going on, though. Protests and marches and whatnot. They tried to pull the same shit in Melbourne and it got the deep six... but, this is Sydney and the fuckers really want the big bucks from the inner city and surrounds. It's a weird alliance between big $$$ developers, city planners, Greens, the left, The soft conservative Liberal state government and the councils. It's madness. They're not interested in expanding the outer surrounds of suburbs. They want the inner city suburbs. Dunno how it's gonna pan out. But, banning drinking in Sydney? They're actually trying that shit on. Kings Cross is now a ghost town. They got their sights set on Newtown, too. That won't stand. It's the one place I can walk naked down the street, covered in peanut butter, smoking and drinking and not have people judge me.

Posted by: otho at June 06, 2016 01:02 AM (EWg9n)

214
iforgot I like your meme idea re French's abortive presidential "run".
-------------------

I shall do it!

I made an assay in the previous thread:

After much thought and prayer, I have decided I shall not seek the Presidency. But tonight, I shall stay at a Holiday Inn.

It's that second sentence where the horde will yield many a flecked monitor.

Posted by: iforgot at June 06, 2016 01:02 AM (5o5ek)

215 Longest four days/nights I've spent in recent memory, was in the Financial District in Sydney.

Other half thought she'd got a great rate on a hotel there, and price wise, it was.

Until we got there, only to find that the place was a veritable desert, bereft of choices in food, entertainment, amenities, nightlife, etc.

I had strongly suggested that a hotel near the King's Crossing district would've been better digs, but ah, she knew better. Yeah, KC has it's crime issues, but so does Chicago and NYC.

Sweet revenge was the damned underground made plenty of stops under KC, and we even emerged above ground there once to find a good lunch.

Damn financial district was sterile, boring and damn near utterly deserted after 6 pm.

Yeah, that was fun.

Thank God for side trips to Cairns and it's surrounding areas.

If the Aussies there would afford Texas style liberties, I'd equip a 50 footer for a year's voyage to get there.

Sans socialists, that'd be paradise.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 06, 2016 01:02 AM (v5iqM)

216 207
In the meantime, the "Silicon Valley" that used to, y'know, make semiconductors......is now all about munging together multiple databases to better profile 'consumers'
--------------------

That's the only business description I seem to read these days. Where are the actual products?

"We leverage your platform to launch a multi-filtering approach to the software-as-an-afterservice business model that exponentially transforms your data into vertical customer outreach and transrelational sales and marketing. Read our customer testimonials."

Posted by: iforgot at June 06, 2016 12:59 AM (5o5ek)



*Breaking meta* None of the shit done in the Valley benefits anyone in any tangible way these days.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 01:02 AM (EzgxV)

217 Kindltot was the Nagasaki arsenal, um, "nuked" on August 9, or was it an area shielded by terrain?


The Nagasaki mission was a complete charlie-foxtrot, ending with Bock's Car violating their orders by dropping blind (radar only) and missing their aim point by quite a bit. Which, given that the event had no impact on the surrender decision (already being made and conveyed that day), and also given that the "miss" reduced the likely casualty count, was just as well.


Largest Catholic cathedral in Asia was vaporized, however.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2016 01:03 AM (QDnY+)

218 Wait what? Drinking is banned in Sydney?

Posted by: VCs at June 06, 2016 01:03 AM (0LHZx)

219 Off VC sock

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 06, 2016 01:03 AM (0LHZx)

220
They're laying-off people right-and-left in Silicon Valley, and building 4-story housing like gangbusters. The traffic, the congestion, the retail....all about to take a massive shit.
---------------------

And holy smokes, just as I was contemplating a return.

Posted by: iforgot at June 06, 2016 01:04 AM (5o5ek)

221 "Political correctness is tyranny with manners."--P.J. O'Rourke

Still tyranny, though.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 06, 2016 01:05 AM (Ndje9)

222 No drinking in Sydney sounds suspiciously like an accomodation for recent immigrants from the Middle East.

Posted by: Rupert Rutherford Bixley at June 06, 2016 01:07 AM (FAPLK)

223 Longest four days/nights I've spent in recent memory, was in the Financial District in Sydney.



Other half thought she'd got a great rate on a hotel there, and price wise, it was.



Until we got there, only to find that the place was a veritable
desert, bereft of choices in food, entertainment, amenities, nightlife,
etc.



I had strongly suggested that a hotel near the King's Crossing
district would've been better digs, but ah, she knew better. Yeah, KC
has it's crime issues, but so does Chicago and NYC.



Sweet revenge was the damned underground made plenty of stops under
KC, and we even emerged above ground there once to find a good lunch.



Damn financial district was sterile, boring and damn near utterly deserted after 6 pm.



Yeah, that was fun.



Thank God for side trips to Cairns and it's surrounding areas.



If the Aussies there would afford Texas style liberties, I'd equip a 50 footer for a year's voyage to get there.



Sans socialists, that'd be paradise.







Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 06, 2016 01:02 AM


Oh yeah. The CBD went quiet sometime after the 80's.. It's just offices and department stores. The happening joints are the places around it.

Posted by: otho at June 06, 2016 01:07 AM (EWg9n)

224 "Political correctness is tyranny with manners."--P.J. O'Rourke

Still tyranny, though.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 06, 2016 01:05 AM (Ndje9)
-------------
Tyranny by scorn?

Posted by: RioBravo at June 06, 2016 01:08 AM (NUqwG)

225 The Dixie Chicks are going after Trump?

Who knew thew were still around?

Posted by: Jake at June 06, 2016 12:31 AM (YNyCj)


Still struggling for relevance, by dissing elephants.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 06, 2016 01:08 AM (GSdpU)

226 If Jane Mansbridge thinks government coercion is to everyone's benefit, then surely she'd enjoy spending some time in prison, where government coercion is at its maximum.

Posted by: Epobirs at June 06, 2016 01:08 AM (IdCqF)

227 220
They're laying-off people right-and-left in Silicon Valley, and building 4-story housing like gangbusters. The traffic, the congestion, the retail....all about to take a massive shit.
---------------------

And holy smokes, just as I was contemplating a return.

Posted by: iforgot at June 06, 2016 01:04 AM (5o5ek)



I was here in the 80's. It was cool.



Now it's crap like Uber monitoring your smartphone's battery to determine how much to jack-up your fare (funny how much more you'll spend when you're on your last bar, yo!).

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 01:08 AM (EzgxV)

228 Sans socialists, that'd be paradise.


Sans socialists, most every place is paradise.

Posted by: Blano at June 06, 2016 01:08 AM (lbcdD)

229 Checking in before reading the post.

Howdy, moonlighters. My day had its downs and ups. Ended up about where I started, so, broke even.

Posted by: mindful webworker - at Go! at June 06, 2016 01:09 AM (Gv8zm)

230 Now it's crap like Uber monitoring your smartphone's battery to determine how much to jack-up your fare (funny how much more you'll spend when you're on your last bar, yo!).

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 01:08 AM (EzgxV)

What?? Seriously??

Posted by: Blano at June 06, 2016 01:09 AM (lbcdD)

231 Totally OT --- or at least it would be if we had a topic --- but I never knew here were so many people who do not have a good supply of duct tape and a big box of plastic garbage bags at home. Or shovels. I just take that stuff for granted as part of ordinary household supplies.

This is the thing. You get these klutzes on the ID channel who murder wifey, grampa, or the local prostitute and what happens? They have to make a run over to Walmart to get caught on camera buying body-disposal supplies. Downright embarrassing.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 06, 2016 01:09 AM (T/5A0)

232
A lamentably abrupt good-night to all. Soon to be lulled away by Frasier episodes with any luck.

Posted by: iforgot at June 06, 2016 01:10 AM (5o5ek)

233
Gee I wonder if any of those "local" employees in Phoenix, might be recently arrived Mexican? Nah.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 06, 2016 12:58 AM (0LHZx)


Nah. The video/sound jobs are tech jobs.

It's more likely that the person googled the wrong country.

Plus, union jobs like those will not employ the Messicans in those jobs, they pay too well.

Trust me, years ago I worked for a local minor league team, and having just 2 spotlight operators per game (roughly 2 hours), was $400 per game. From what I've heard, it has increased a bunch in 15 years. The only reason we were able to get around the sound guy not being paid union was that he was a friend and a fan, so he did it for a flat fee for the season and tickets for his family.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper formerly MrCaniac at June 06, 2016 01:10 AM (1JnAL)

234 They're laying-off people right-and-left in Silicon Valley, and building 4-story housing like gangbusters. The traffic, the congestion, the retail....all about to take a massive shit. In the meantime, the "Silicon Valley" that used to, y'know, make semiconductors......is now all about munging together multiple databases to better profile 'consumers' [read as 'voters', 'jurors', 'citizens', 'sheep'].



I saw this coming some years back, and want out so bad I can taste it.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 12:55 AM (EzgxV)

A friend of mine heard some real estate agents talking during some recent house hunting in the Bay Area. They did not sound too happy.

Posted by: eman at June 06, 2016 01:10 AM (MQEz6)

235 stay frosty morons. Didn't Tangonline9 used to say that, What ever happened to that moron. I miss that guy.

Posted by: prophet at June 06, 2016 01:11 AM (KIJKy)

236 Rhomboid, do you have a source about that surrender decision?

Reason I ask is because in Gordon Thomas and Max Morgan Witts' book Enola Gay. June 1978. Pocket Books - they recount how the six members of the inner cabinet throughout August 9th were bitterly divided. Suzuki wanting to surrender but the Army still spoiling for a fight. It wasn't until 2am on August 10th when Emperor Hirohito said he supported Suzuki that ended the overt dispute.


Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2016 01:11 AM (jFXTk)

237 R/T Mansfield. "Whose bitch is 'dis", immediately comes to mind.

Posted by: Razorredux at June 06, 2016 01:12 AM (6I0RI)

238
Now it's crap like Uber monitoring your smartphone's battery to determine how much to jack-up your fare (funny how much more you'll spend when you're on your last bar, yo!).

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 01:08 AM (EzgxV)

What?? Seriously??
Posted by: Blano at June 06, 2016 01:09 AM (lbcdD)
----------------

Oh damn. I always scroll up a few after posting my goodnights and find something like this.

Posted by: iforgot at June 06, 2016 01:12 AM (5o5ek)

239 i didn't think i'd be commenting, having been spaghettified in an 80's music video black hole. but it's worth noting for the gentle reader that according to her wikipedia page, dr. mansbridge "is currently working on the necessity for legitimate coercion created by our need for 'free access goods'."

what are free access goods? well, a google search leads to the world socialism.org which defines socialism as "everybody having free access to the goods and services to directly meet their needs."

"free access" is a concept they return to. but free is apparently not free. it demands the coercion of the state. face, meet boot. forever.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 06, 2016 01:13 AM (WTSFk)

240 230 Now it's crap like Uber monitoring your smartphone's battery to determine how much to jack-up your fare (funny how much more you'll spend when you're on your last bar, yo!).

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 01:08 AM (EzgxV)

What?? Seriously??

Posted by: Blano at June 06, 2016 01:09 AM (lbcdD)



https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231408




It's all about asymmetric information. If they know your situation more than you do, they can win......and if they know your situation ALL THE TIME, U R Fucked.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 01:13 AM (EzgxV)

241 Correction. Mansbridge. Whatever, the beotch from Harvard.

Posted by: Razorredux at June 06, 2016 01:13 AM (6I0RI)

242
This is the thing. You get these klutzes on the
ID channel who murder wifey, grampa, or the local prostitute and what
happens? They have to make a run over to Walmart to get caught on
camera buying body-disposal supplies. Downright embarrassing.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 06, 2016 01:09 AM (T/5A0)


Be a champ. Buy water-proof mattress covers to fit your beds. Make sure to spill a gallon of cherry kool-aide on one them to make sure they actually are waterproof.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 06, 2016 01:14 AM (ry34m)

243 The Dixie Chicks are going after Trump?

Who knew thew were still around?

Posted by: Jake at June 06, 2016 12:31 AM (YNyCj)


Still struggling for relevance, by dissing elephants.



If Country Joe and the Fish join them, Trump will be doomed for sure!

Posted by: Puddleglum@work at June 06, 2016 01:14 AM (syGA0)

244 The Dixie Chicks are going after Trump?

Who knew thew were still around?

Posted by: Jake at June 06, 2016 12:31 AM (YNyCj)


I wonder if Jane Mansbridge is any relation to news anchor and Liberal knobgobbler par excellence Peter Mansbridge on Canada's CBC network?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 06, 2016 01:14 AM (GSdpU)

245 Or is Jane Peter after a government subsidized sex-change?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2016 01:15 AM (jFXTk)

246 Wait what? Drinking is banned in Sydney?



Posted by: VCs at June 06, 2016 01:03 AM


Not entirely. The inner city suburbs, late night. Everything has to stop and you can't get a drink after midnight. 11pm if the venue can't afford the onerous requirements and exemptions that cost big $$$. Stuff like that. The band venues, clubs and pubs are shutting down in waves, from the centre and Kings Cross, radiating out to the inner west and whatnot. The developers then buy up the places for a song. I don't think Kings Cross will ever come back. It seems done. The fuckers are attempting to tear down what made sydney... sydney.

Posted by: otho at June 06, 2016 01:15 AM (EWg9n)

247 Yes, Tillikum, I forgot to mention - the coffee-stirrer fix for the Mosin front sight. Cost: $O. One of my favorite "redneck gunsmithing" tricks.


The one "mod" I'm going to play with is to put a small "salka" or short strip of oil-soaked felt around the barrel, around the area of the front barrel-band. Pretty well documented as a field-expedient "accurizing" method used by the soldats during the Velyikaya Otchestvennaya Voina. Easy, and reversible.


I shoot only east bloc surplus ammo but some day I expect I'll reload 54R and see the already decent accuracy improve. Just love the simplicity and toughness of those rifles. And I was lucky to amass my small pile when nice/interesting ones were easy to get for just over $100.

Posted by: rhomboid
****

Rednecks and Russian "peasants". Separated at birth?
2 of my 3 are ex-snipers and shoot well enough that I leave as is. I'm afraid to mess something up. Holy crap, I just remembered I have never shot my hex receiver. That will have to change. That one may get some accurizing.

I like the 91/30s for pretty much the same reasons. Simple and a bit crude like me, but it works rather well.
When I first learned of 91/30s there were all kinds of rare and unique ones being sold for super low prices as if they were nothing special. Sigh. The good old days. Should have grabbed a few more when they sold for $79 at Big 5. Oh well. At least I got some. Now that I have a better camera I will have to get some pics and throw them up on photobucket.
Maybe it's just me, but I think the surplus rifle market in general is drying up. Everyone has either sold off or destroyed what they had.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 06, 2016 01:15 AM (hVdx9)

248 Didn't Tangonline9 used to say that, What ever happened to that moron. I miss that guy.
Posted by: prophet at June 06, 2016 01:11 AM (KIJKy)


I think the black-ops elves re-activated him.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 06, 2016 01:15 AM (ry34m)

249 ... it's interesting. mans bridge is pretty much open calling for fascism.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 06, 2016 01:16 AM (WTSFk)

250 231 Totally OT --- or at least it would be if we had a topic --- but I never knew here were so many people who do not have a good supply of duct tape and a big box of plastic garbage bags at home. Or shovels. I just take that stuff for granted as part of ordinary household supplies.

This is the thing. You get these klutzes on the ID channel who murder wifey, grampa, or the local prostitute and what happens? They have to make a run over to Walmart to get caught on camera buying body-disposal supplies. Downright embarrassing.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 06, 2016 01:09 AM (T/5A0)



You want that stuff to be "fresh". Old rolls of duct tape and trash bags have been traced back to the murderer by fingerprints and dna on those things. I even saw one of those shows where they matched up the tear on the duct tape to the tape found on the body, and the perforations on the trash bags matched up to the ones at the killer's house.

Best to use fresh stuff and for God's sake, don't use your damn shopper's card to try to get a discount on the stuff.


Or so I have heard.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper formerly MrCaniac has heard some things at June 06, 2016 01:16 AM (1JnAL)

251 ... or communism. the totalitarian impulse is the same.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 06, 2016 01:17 AM (WTSFk)

252
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2016 01:11 AM (jFXTk)
---------------------------
Most references I have seen indicate the Japanese decision to surrender was made by the Emperor on August 10th after both atomic bombings - the cabinet meeting started at midnight.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 06, 2016 01:17 AM (NUqwG)

253 Also, after taking care of business. Toss in a dumpster the rest of the duct-tape roll.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2016 01:18 AM (jFXTk)

254 234 They're laying-off people right-and-left in Silicon Valley, and building 4-story housing like gangbusters. The traffic, the congestion, the retail....all about to take a massive shit. In the meantime, the "Silicon Valley" that used to, y'know, make semiconductors......is now all about munging together multiple databases to better profile 'consumers' [read as 'voters', 'jurors', 'citizens', 'sheep'].



I saw this coming some years back, and want out so bad I can taste it.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 12:55 AM (EzgxV)

A friend of mine heard some real estate agents talking during some recent house hunting in the Bay Area. They did not sound too happy.

Posted by: eman at June 06, 2016 01:10 AM (MQEz6)



Pricing is wildly inflated because of Chinese stash-money. It will crash when it becomes a shooting war......which nobody wants, but is bound to happen. I'm not looking forward to the day I have to explain to the fiancee that our future lives will be trashed because she stupidly held on to income sources that will be inflated into worthlessness, instead of cashing-out to ongoing-business in jurisdictions that still do that.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 01:18 AM (EzgxV)

255 In terms of climate, terrain, seaports, open country, lush landscapes and every other measure, Australia really is damn near paradise.

Two factors prevent that title from applying:

1. Socialists. See posts above. They ruin everything.

2. AtC is right. The outdoors IS trying to kill you. That goes up by a magnitude of order Down Under. The World's Most Poisonous everything lives in Australia, and is hunting for you there.

And, I'll append the previous two, by this.

I'd sail to Cairns from Hawaii, with some strong confidence. In the right season.

Damn slim odds I'd want to sail to Sydney, except for very narrow seasonal windows.

Further South? I'd park the boat in a Sydney marina, and catch the damn train.

The Southern Ocean eats sailboats for lunch, and I'd rather not challenge myself against it's unpredictable furies.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 06, 2016 01:18 AM (v5iqM)

256 That post was mighty meaty, Maet. Will take a bit to digest.

I made sock puppeteer #7 this week. Does that count as doing something wrong or right? Always amusing what handle gets picked for this list.

Congrats to commenter #1, sven again, whose per-day count is down this week... isn't it?

Quantity, quality, tomayto tomahto...

Posted by: mindful webworker - sockpuppet match lost in the dryer at June 06, 2016 01:19 AM (Gv8zm)

257 Suspiciously, the casinos, in the inner city are totally exempt from the regulations. A dude from the state govt replied to questions about the bullshit by saying if you want to drink or party, go to the casino.

Posted by: otho at June 06, 2016 01:20 AM (EWg9n)

258 257 Suspiciously, the casinos, in the inner city are totally exempt from the regulations. A dude from the state govt replied to questions about the bullshit by saying if you want to drink or party, go to the casino.

Posted by: otho at June 06, 2016 01:20 AM (EWg9n)




Better opportunity for graft. It's all about the fucking graft.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 01:21 AM (EzgxV)

259 Anna, best I can recall it was in "Japan's Struggle Surrender," an out of print book that I borrowed from .... the State Dept. library, during the '95 Enola Gay brouhaha (heh).


It relies heavily on the info from Lord Kido, of course. Thought the historic conference of the Big Six with the emperor in the underground palace conference room was August 9.


In two senses, I think it is likely the Nagasaki bombing didn't play into the decision.


First, not sure there was any good detailed info about the event available to leadership in Tokyo in timely manner for this meeting - whether it was day-time or night-time. That is, only the Hiroshima attack would have been factored in.


Second, even if Nagasaki were known in some intelligible way to leadership on the 9th, the army was a no-go on acceptance of Potsdam anyway, and briefed the tenno that they had counter-measures for the sort of weapon used in Hiroshima. The army didn't change its stance and would not have even if Nagasaki had been factored in.


Can't recall when Tokyo would have had confirmed word of Soviet entry into the war.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2016 01:21 AM (QDnY+)

260 Japan's Struggle TO Surrender, of course.


Seems like pixy is eating/changing words here and there.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2016 01:22 AM (QDnY+)

261 I just watched Police Academy. It's the strangest thing. I remember laughing at this move when it came out in 1984. Other than the scene where Georgina Spelvin (an actual first wave porn actress) blows Lassard while he's giving a speech, I didn't even crack a smile. Weird.

It was funny. I remember. Except it's....not.

Posted by: Weirddave at June 06, 2016 01:23 AM (N8hFs)

262 Better opportunity for graft. It's all about the fucking graft.




Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 01:21 AM


Yep.

Posted by: otho at June 06, 2016 01:23 AM (EWg9n)

263 Nice murder tips!
Although the cherry Kool-Ade may be a step too far.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 06, 2016 01:23 AM (T/5A0)

264 Stay frosty, morons, has been my exit line for years. I don't think I appropriated it but it is possible.

So, I was going to sleep, and checked my Facebook feed on a whim. Turns out a guy I did 2 years of residency with up and killed himself today, his mother found him with the gun in his hand, poor dear.

Fuck this day in particular.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at June 06, 2016 01:23 AM (gVpIT)

265 You want that stuff to be "fresh". Old rolls of duct tape and trash bags have been traced back to the murderer by fingerprints and dna on those things. I even saw one of those shows where they matched up the tear on the duct tape to the tape found on the body, and the perforations on the trash bags matched up to the ones at the killer's house.

Best to use fresh stuff and for God's sake, don't use your damn shopper's card to try to get a discount on the stuff.


Or so I have heard.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper
*****

Look, ya wear gloves when applying the tape. Same thing when touching trash bags. Then after "cleanup" you toss the tape and garbage bags. You do have to time these things as close to garbage day as possible, but no biggie.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 06, 2016 01:23 AM (hVdx9)

266 Jim in Sunk New Dawn, Your comments are very enjoyable. Keep them up, Your like the Texas (sunk island) version of Zombie

Posted by: prophet at June 06, 2016 01:24 AM (KIJKy)

267 #129

You never watched Thunderbirds?

Posted by: Epobirs at June 06, 2016 01:24 AM (IdCqF)

268
This is the thing. You get these klutzes on the ID channel who murder wifey, grampa, or the local prostitute and what happens? They have to make a run over to Walmart to get caught on camera buying body-disposal supplies. Downright embarrassing.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 06, 2016 01:09 AM (T/5A0)


A moat filled with crocodiles. No home should be without one.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 06, 2016 01:24 AM (GSdpU)

269 #261

That was Georgina Spelvin? I never noticed.

I watched an old Archer the other day in which the villain was named George Spelvin. Probably flew right by much of the younger audience, like a lot of references on Venture Bros.

Posted by: Epobirs at June 06, 2016 01:26 AM (IdCqF)

270 I think the title you are searching for is - Behind Japan's Surrender: The Secret Struggle That Ended an Empire by Lester Brooks. Originally published in 1968 but there is a 1995 reprint on Amazon.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2016 01:27 AM (jFXTk)

271 264 Stay frosty, morons, has been my exit line for years. I don't think I appropriated it but it is possible.

So, I was going to sleep, and checked my Facebook feed on a whim. Turns out a guy I did 2 years of residency with up and killed himself today, his mother found him with the gun in his hand, poor dear.

Fuck this day in particular.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at June 06, 2016 01:23 AM (gVpIT)
264 Stay frosty, morons, has been my exit line for years. I don't think I appropriated it but it is possible.

So, I was going to sleep, and checked my Facebook feed on a whim. Turns out a guy I did 2 years of residency with up and killed himself today, his mother found him with the gun in his hand, poor dear.

Fuck this day in particular.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at June 06, 2016 01:23 AM (gVpIT)



I'm so sorry, CC. I have to give you regular condolences in order to pray for his poor mom.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 01:28 AM (EzgxV)

272 Speaking of Nagasaki, did Maet yet deliver his promised comparison of the two bomb museums? (they call them peace museums, but seems they only sprout up in places where nuklyer bombs were employed)

Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2016 01:28 AM (QDnY+)

273 Well, I mean I totally did take it from Aliens. I don't think I ripped it off a fellow moron.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at June 06, 2016 01:29 AM (gVpIT)

274 Trying to sleep now, honest. Putting the damn phone down before I get more bad news.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at June 06, 2016 01:31 AM (gVpIT)

275 Anna, funny, but I don't think so. I specifically recall the title as "Japan's Struggle To Surrender".


Also recall the original publication date as being prior to 1968.


Funny, I remember the book had only been checked out twice before I did, in 1995 (those little sheets affixed inside the front hardcover, with the dates stamped on for check-out/return).


Anyway, could be some high-grade false memory at work here, on my part. If I get a chance I'll try to confirm my memories.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2016 01:31 AM (QDnY+)

276 Yeah, that sleep thing might be a good idea.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2016 01:31 AM (jFXTk)

277 268----A moat filled with crocodiles. No home should be without one.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 06, 2016 01:24 AM
---------------------
Well, y'no, if you make a habit of this sort of thing, if murder is your hobby, that would make good sense.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 06, 2016 01:32 AM (T/5A0)

278 BTW, Thanks, Maet for the ONT.

Posted by: Razorredux at June 06, 2016 01:39 AM (6I0RI)

279 Fell asleep now I'm up I think, ambien time? Damn fine ONT Maet. Thank you

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 06, 2016 01:40 AM (voOPb)

280 I'm following the comments on the surrender of Japan, and went looking, and found an interesting article in the Boston Globe "Why did Japan Surrender".

It led to a predictable conclusion. Japan did not surrender because of the nuclear bombing.

Therefore nuclear bombs are not necessary or even useful for winning a war, and they are so horrific that their use is a war crime, and they are dangerous because world leaders don't care about causalties and will use them indiscriminately, and therefore nuclear weapons should be banned.

My own reaction is war is hell, and war must be made hellish, so hellish that no sane rational person would ever want to go to war, and when some insane irrational world leader starts a war, it must be waged so horriffically that everyone else on the planet gets the message.

But that's just me.

Posted by: Rupert Rutherford Bixley at June 06, 2016 01:41 AM (FAPLK)

281 Conservative Crank.

With not the slightest amount of ghey in the thought, I mean this sincerely.

I would hold you in my arms, and hug you tight, till the storms passed.

This I say, with tears my eyes, and my heart full with respect, and love and brotherhood.

Those who have suffered loss such, know.

It is the most miserable of fellowships.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 06, 2016 01:41 AM (v5iqM)

282 Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2016 01:31 AM (QDnY+)
--------------
A couple of references that may be of interest:

"Japans Struggle to End the War" by Paul Nitze, 1946
"Japans Decision to Surrender" by Robert Butow, 1954

Posted by: RioBravo at June 06, 2016 01:41 AM (NUqwG)

283 Decided to treat myself to one rum & Coke before retiring. I did in fact get some lawn mowing done. Started the old 21" high-wheeler walk-behind, and did the tall grass where the ditch meets the gravel road. The Dixon riding mower doesn't like sidehills, and the gravel is hard on the blades. Then I cut the tall grass under the overhanging branches of the caragana hedge, which I cannot reach with riding mower. Ditches look fine, now, and that's what presents to passers-by, anyway.


Did a little mowing in some very tall grass behind the house with the riding mower, and the blade on the center spindle has worked loose, so a repair job is in order.


Got a touch of sunburn this afternoon, too, but not bad.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 06, 2016 01:48 AM (GSdpU)

284 Conservative Crank's iPhone at June 06, 2016 01:23 AM (gVpIT)

May his mother find Peace and Purpose. May she find Strength in these miserable days.

May you continue to extend your hand in friendship to others despite knowing that sometimes it gets bitten off.

Posted by: Adriane the Sunless Day Critic ... at June 06, 2016 01:49 AM (AoK0a)

285 It led to a predictable conclusion. Japan did not surrender because of the nuclear bombing.

----------
If the Nips had been sharing details of their high-level decision -making with us it may have been relevant under what conditions they may have decided to surrender. It was all a failure to communicate!

Posted by: RioBravo at June 06, 2016 01:50 AM (NUqwG)

286 http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/06/asia/duterte-drug-dealers-lethal-force-vigilantism/index.html

Filipino Trump?

Posted by: Razorredux at June 06, 2016 01:50 AM (6I0RI)

287 #257

Complete coincidence that certain wealthy foreigners love casinos.

I noticed in the late 90s that more and more of the high end casinos in Las Vegas has rooms reserved for games largely unknown to Westerners. Apparently, these rooms are so profitable it doesn't bother them that they are empty much of the year. They come out of hibernation for the big trade shows that draw a lot of Asian corporate execs. There was a period when we had jobs in LV so often we were considering renting some space there to store a bunch of equipment, so I got to observe those special rooms over the course of the year.

Posted by: Epobirs at June 06, 2016 01:52 AM (IdCqF)

288 Time for me to revert to the snooze mode.

Hasta la nite nite, Horde.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 06, 2016 01:53 AM (v5iqM)

289 Oh please, I was listening to Linda Moulton Howe the other day, and I learned WWII was all about aliens. Of course it was. You see see one faction backed Hitler and the Nazis, and another faction of aliens, was agin' 'em, and back us.

It was all an alien faction power struggle, you see.

Everything has to do aliens.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 06, 2016 01:53 AM (DW+jj)

290 Thanks, Rio.


The second book matches the publication date range I recall.


Funny, I recall the title because "struggle to surrender" obviously conveyed a lot of pertinent info in itself, most of which I had not known in detail. That is, the divisions within the leadership.


Though in the end only Hirohito's vote counted, when he expressed his wish about something specific over which Japan had control. Lord Kido convinced him, and the army knew this, one reason Kido was high on the list for the rebels who stormed the palace and NHK headquarters looking for "traitors" and the two surrender speech recordings.


In any case most don't know how effed up the Nagasaki mission was - for one of the most elaborately scripted and supported military missions in history. Weather, incredible bad luck (fuel line problem on a plane as minutely maintained and inspected as Bock's Car, discovered too late to fix?), not any incompetence by Sweeney or his crew.


Plane barely made it to Okinawa, just about crash-landed at Yontan.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2016 01:55 AM (QDnY+)

291 RioBravo at June 06, 2016 01:50 AM

I found it interesting that the Army didn't want to surrender and was plotting against the Emperor.

Kind of a death before dishonor thing I guess. I'm sitting here wondering what was the final argument that convinced the Army to surrender.

It is these things that make history so interesting to me. Not what happened, but why. What was the forces, or special interests, or polical considerations that caused something to happen.

Posted by: Rupert Rutherford Bixley at June 06, 2016 01:55 AM (FAPLK)

292 The longer I live, and the more history I learn, the more I think it almost had to be Providential that we didn't have to invade Japan. It would have been a bloodbath of biblical proportions.

Posted by: Vertov at June 06, 2016 02:01 AM (RTOcO)

293
and to eat, and sleep, and grow fat and lazy. These things are what is best in life.

and so, these things I shall do.

Posted by: Rupert Rutherford Bixley at June 06, 2016 02:03 AM (FAPLK)

294 it demands the coercion of the state. face, meet boot. forever.
---
butt stock meet shoulder, forever...

and butt stock meet chin, or bayonet meet gut, if that's what it comes to.

just hell fucking no, period.

end of discussion,

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 06, 2016 02:03 AM (iRosR)

295 Last comment on the Japan/surrender issue for me today.


In a sense, it is true that the nuclear strikes did not end the war - but not, at all, in the sense that this observation is usually made.


The strikes (or strike, if my memory about Nagasaki not figuring into the key meeting is correct) did not, in fact, "shock" Japan into surrender. Which "shock" was the specific objective - to the extent that several cities were "saved", not really hit by the months' long air campaign or carrier raids, expressly to make their destruction by one bomb more dramatic and shocking.


The army - the outfit that was responsible for Japan's whole arc of destruction from the 30s on - was not "shocked" into accepting surrender. They believed they could carry on (and they were, technically, right). They so reported to the emperor in their report on Hiroshima.


Of course the nuke(s) *did* provide, at a minimum, a great rationale for Hirohito calling an end to the madness. One reason it was one of the only factors specifically mentioned in his famous radio address.


But technically, in a very real sense, the atomic "shock" strategy did not work, at least in terms of moving the key power player, the army, into accepting Potsdam. All of which merely underlines how many lives in fact the nukes ended up saving - for those familiar with the facts of the situation and the likely result of the war continuing into the fall of '45 or even the spring of '46.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2016 02:04 AM (QDnY+)

296 There was a third atomic bomb almost ready to use. Had a target been chosen for it?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 06, 2016 02:05 AM (GSdpU)

297 From the link:
Just wait until someone gets raped as a result of Uber trying to hammer them not based on demand for cars but based on the stolen knowledge that the user's battery in their phone is almost out of power.

I don't know how he got from Uber to rape, so I don't think this deserves a rebuttal.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 06, 2016 02:08 AM (VdICR)

298 Just scanned through 250+ comments.



Had the strangest feeling of déjà vu -- the perception that we've had some of these conversations before. Which ones, I couldn't say. Weird.



Just scanned through 250+ comments.



Had the strangest feeling of déjà vu -- the perception that we've had some of these conversations before. Which ones, I couldn't say. Weird.

Posted by: mindful webworker - sockpuppet match lost in the dryer at June 06, 2016 02:08 AM (Gv8zm)

299 Rupert, it was an imperial order, not an argument, that convinced the army to go along with surrender. And the bloodbath was ongoing - in Japan, where even before an invasion a public health catastrophe was in the cards, in the areas occupied by Japan, in the prisoner and internee camps.


There *was* a horrific bloodbath, under way, in the summer of 1945, inside and outside Japan. It was worsening. An invasion (which assumes continued blockade and relentless air attack and even naval bombardment, up until at least Nov. 1, Operation Olympic) would of course ramp up the situation to a real holocaust, mostly for Japan.


The words of the Potsdam Declaration are stark, and were absolutely accurate. Japan faced "utter destruction" if surrender did not occur.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2016 02:09 AM (QDnY+)

300 Ace had some words about late night Baker Street....but there's better out there.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXW-sL5gzHQ




"You've gotta grow/you've gotta learn by your mistakes/you've gotta die a little every day just tryin' to stay awake...."

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 02:10 AM (EzgxV)

301 There was a third atomic bomb almost ready to use. Had a target been chosen for it?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 06, 2016 02:05 AM (GSdpU)
---------
Tokyo

Posted by: RioBravo at June 06, 2016 02:13 AM (NUqwG)

302 AOP, don't know (I should), but probably Kokura. Kokura was primary for the second mission, Nagasaki was secondary. Kokura had one of the largest military industrial concentrations. Can't recall which other city was on the "save" list for the nuke missions, but there was one other, I think.


Kyoto of course was untouched but off-limits (just one of the many historically unique American/Allied moves in WWII starkly emphasizing the moral non-equivalence of movements, countries, and mindsets). Tokyo would have been as well (kill the leadership - nobody to talk to, kill the emperor - big no-no, bad juju for post-war situation).


Osaka, Kobe, Kure, Yokohama, most other key cities - not all that much left to destroy by August '45.


And now I really *am* signing off to go read about the sub campaign out of the Phillipines/Australia.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 06, 2016 02:15 AM (QDnY+)

303 Now that WWII is wrapped up, I'm out.
I will return another day for re-fight number 437 of the American Civil War.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 06, 2016 02:16 AM (NUqwG)

304 Yeah, I am out, too. Getting mighty sleepy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 06, 2016 02:17 AM (GSdpU)

305 I'm taking the short cut to bed. The scenic route is closed for repairs anyway.

Good night, Gracies.

Posted by: mindful webworker - wake me up early, m'kay? at June 06, 2016 02:22 AM (Gv8zm)

306 300 Ace had some words about late night Baker Street....but there's better out there.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXW-sL5gzHQ




"You've gotta grow/you've gotta learn by your mistakes/you've gotta die a little every day just tryin' to stay awake...."

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 02:10 AM (EzgxV)



It should also be noted that Dwalin from The Hobbit was his drummer on this track.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 02:23 AM (EzgxV)

307 i don't care about you... F you!

Posted by: FEAR at June 06, 2016 02:23 AM (iRosR)

308 i, for one, am damn glad we nuked them...

Resident Evil's dad was a Signalman 3rd on the Showboat, USS North Carolina (BB-55), and would have been on the signal bridge of the invasion/s with nothing more between him and the kamikazes but a set of flags and a signal lamp.

w/o the bombs, she might well have not been here.

F them.

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 06, 2016 02:27 AM (iRosR)

309
sleepy....later...

Posted by: eleven at June 06, 2016 02:29 AM (qUNWi)

310 307 i don't care about you... F you!

Posted by: FEAR at June 06, 2016 02:23 AM (iRosR)



You care enough to hurl abuse.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 02:29 AM (EzgxV)

311 Something's coming....

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 02:35 AM (EzgxV)

312 The ordeal of the person who posted on the last head and who had a tumor removed from their mouth sounds dreadful. No, not a good way to lose weight.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2016 02:36 AM (rmw+9)

313 Guest Rapper Killed the Guitar Solo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evCsdT99Iog

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 06, 2016 02:41 AM (VdICR)

314 ....And then those dumbasses waste the blood spilt by our comrades and let those Effin' Muslims have it back.....all so the Euros and UN Jew-haters will MAYBE not hate us as much.

Posted by: Israeli Paratrooper liberators of Temple Mount at June 06, 2016 02:41 AM (V7qBU)

315 Trump/Enola Gay 2016!

#MilitaristJapLivesMatter

#WeAreEmbarkingTodayOnAGreatCrusade

By now, the first transports with 82d and 101st troopers were in-bound.

DemocratNazis Delenda Est

Posted by: The Midnight Chalkening at June 06, 2016 02:46 AM (V7qBU)

316 >>>311 Something's coming....
Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 02:35 AM (EzgxV)

Nein, Nein, it vill be another lovely June day, like last year in 1943......BTW I've left strict orders with my Chief-of-Staff to not be disturbed until noon tomorrow.......G'Night, peasants. zzzzzzzzzzz..........

Posted by: Der POTUS Adolf Barack HUSSEIN 0Bama at June 06, 2016 02:54 AM (V7qBU)

317 Heard some excellent news today.... my BIL, let go by his tech company almost 18 months ago, starts his new gig this week. He's 61 and was getting pretty scared he'd never get another industry job (or any kind of job) ever again. He's got one kid in college and one adult child at home with mental and physical disabilities so this is a real blessing.

Posted by: Swift Kich at June 06, 2016 03:03 AM (uaHyk)

318 Night all.

Here is "Burning in Hell" from Electric Citizen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Niku9smcDnE

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 06, 2016 03:20 AM (vBeA5)

319 i've got a sleep that burns...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z6V8rD9dCk

browser issues kept this, and a few others from Ace's lists....which is why they weren't that great.

O

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 06, 2016 03:46 AM (iRosR)

320 Ghost: Monstrance Clock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oa_nbgE8M8

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 06, 2016 03:52 AM (VdICR)

321 I can't believe I made the wall of shame again. I haven't been here.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 06, 2016 03:54 AM (24FG8)

322
Trump/Enola Gay 2016!

---
Enola Gay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5XJ2GiR6Bo

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 06, 2016 03:54 AM (iRosR)

323 Sitting here watching "Feed the Beast" on AMC. Not God awful.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 06, 2016 03:59 AM (24FG8)

324 Anyone awake still?

Posted by: L, Elle at June 06, 2016 04:19 AM (6IPEM)

325 Howdy, Lady Elle.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 06, 2016 04:20 AM (24FG8)

326 Anyone awake still?

Nope. Sound asleep ... very soon.

You?

Posted by: Adriane the Sunless Day Critic ... at June 06, 2016 04:21 AM (AoK0a)

327 But need to nappy-by soon.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 06, 2016 04:23 AM (24FG8)

328 Occasionally, I'll get to a passage in a book in which the author engages in a complete lie or some assertion so absurd that I find I cannot continue.

In tonight case, it was 'Idiot America' by a Charles Pierce. In one section, he goes after Jonah Goldberg's book 'Liberal Fascism,' which makes a very good case for fascism being a phenomenon of the left and that this was well understood by all until it became the official dogma from Stalin that fascist had to be right-wing because they in opposition to the Soviet Empire. Pierce claims that Goldberg is nonsensical for stating the Mussolini was a lefty. One problem: Goldberg documents quite well that Mussolini proclaimed himself to be a man of left, as did Hitler when faced with the same question.

Soon after, Pierce claims that what Goldberg says about Woodrow Wilson, who jailed people for publicly stating anti-war opinions, cannot be true because he was opposed by other progressives. This is as inane as the claim Nazis weren't socialist because they came in conflict with other socialists.

At this point it became clear that became clear that Pierce was wildly dishonest and there was no need to continue listening to this book if I wasn't being paid to do so. Early on, he focused on such things as public figures claiming to know where to find Atlantis or the Creationism Museum that depicts dinosaurs with saddles. Things started to go awry when he defended Al Gore as just caring too much, for being overly earnest, as opposed to trying to make failed science the basis for law that would radically alter the economy or being part of the administration that made 9/11 possible.

There was almost a good book here, if it had stuck to the history of cranks in America without taking a political stance that was plainly leading up to equating conservatism with crankery.

Posted by: Epobirs at June 06, 2016 04:28 AM (IdCqF)

329 wait... whut?

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 06, 2016 04:31 AM (iRosR)

330 . . . _
Many men came here as soldiers
Mary men will pass this way
Many men will count the hours
As they live the longest day
Many men are tired and weary
Many men are here to stay
Many men won't see the sunset
When it ends the longest day
The longest day The longest day
This will be the longest day
Filled with hopes and filled with fears
Filled with blood and sweat and tears
Many men the mighty thousands
Many men to Victory
Marching on right into Battle
In the longest day in history

Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2016 04:32 AM (3wHFl)

331 Very good, Skip.

Posted by: Golfman at June 06, 2016 04:33 AM (48QDY)

332 Occasionally, I'll get to a passage in a book in which the author engages in a complete lie or some assertion so absurd that I find I cannot continue.

Thanks, Epobirs...

Mucho years ago I read Asimov's Guide to Shakespeare. I had a thought of publishing some books (how - no idea) sort of in a spiral form that had a large column of the actual text and a small column of notes & reference materials like the kind Asimov provided.

In cases like thisPierce book, your comments of how specific text is not true would be present along with the book itself.

Posted by: Adriane the Sunless Day Critic ... at June 06, 2016 04:38 AM (AoK0a)

333 hey RK and everyone else




Posted by: L, Elle at June 06, 2016 04:39 AM (6IPEM)

334 Hey Elle ...

Hope things are going OK. About to hit the hay ...

Posted by: Adriane the Sunless Day Critic ... at June 06, 2016 04:40 AM (AoK0a)

335 Where is that bastige that calls himself weirdflunky on a tablet?

Posted by: L, Elle at June 06, 2016 04:40 AM (6IPEM)

336 Goodnight Adraine. Think of what you want to dream about. That actually works. You'll get good dreams

Posted by: L, Elle at June 06, 2016 04:41 AM (6IPEM)

337 Don't know ... the State of Fear? the State of the Union?

Posted by: Adriane the Sunless Day Critic ... at June 06, 2016 04:43 AM (AoK0a)

338 Coffee and 5 minute oatmeal done finally

Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2016 04:48 AM (3wHFl)

339 Bill Whittle in November of 2012.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vHhU4JU5Ug

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 06, 2016 04:52 AM (VdICR)

340 Regarding that modern Viking wedding...was it two dudes? One of those questions you hate to have to ask now.

Posted by: Doomed at June 06, 2016 05:02 AM (bGLSw)

341 323 Sitting here watching "Feed the Beast" on AMC. Not God awful.


The commercials for it were meh. I'm still deciding if Preacher is any good. Its weird enough to hold my interest at the moment but that can change.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 06, 2016 05:31 AM (syGA0)

342 And the Colombian player who scored on his own goal was capped a while back too. Although there's some dispute whether that was related to his own goal or just straight up Colombian violence.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 06, 2016 12:35 AM (0LHZx)


The way I heard it at the time, Andres Escobar was killed because his own goal cost the Colombians the game and the cartels lost money betting on the game, big time.

Posted by: RickZ at June 06, 2016 06:06 AM (KH0pf)

343 There was almost a good book here, if it had
stuck to the history of cranks in America without taking a political
stance that was plainly leading up to equating conservatism with
crankery.


Posted by: Epobirs at June 06, 2016 04:28 AM (IdCqF)


Perhaps I should write "The History of Crankery in America". That might actually be a good read. *Starts pondering.*

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 06, 2016 06:19 AM (J+mig)

344 Perhaps I should write "The History of Crankery in America". That might actually be a good read. *Starts pondering.*

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 06, 2016 06:19 AM (J+mig)


Model T's, butter churns, corn shuckers and the like. Yeah, I can see a best seller regaling us with tales of 'crankery'.

Posted by: RickZ at June 06, 2016 06:23 AM (KH0pf)

345 Why the heck does NPR need a photojournalist?

Posted by: freaked at June 06, 2016 06:48 AM (BO/km)

346 I like the Theodore Dalrymple quotes that Maet is fond of.

I checked and goodreads has a bunch of them - I need to read his books.

https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/67950.Theodore_Dalrymple

Posted by: @votermom at June 06, 2016 06:48 AM (7lVbc)

347 289 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 06, 2016 01:53 AM (DW+jj)

I'm not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens....


//Linda Mouton-Howe(who was kinda hot before she went to Alpha-Tau back in '81)

Posted by: sven10077 at June 06, 2016 06:55 AM (g8Hfr)

348 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldebaran

"It's kind of like Alderran, but orange"

//Linda Mouton-Howe

Posted by: sven10077 at June 06, 2016 06:58 AM (g8Hfr)

349
Well, here it is. Another lousy week.

Just once it would be nice to have a job I actually liked and people I could actually stand instead of what I've got. And people wonder why I drink like a damned Kennedy.

Oh, well. Stayed up late last night to watch Cleopatra on TCM, so here's a shot of Elizabeth Taylor and her wondrous embonpoint:

http://goo.gl/PcxCjD

Richard Burton was the luckiest man in the world.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 06, 2016 07:04 AM (X6fMO)

350 349 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 06, 2016 07:04 AM (X6fMO)

It's better to drink than to swim like a Kennedy...

Posted by: sven10077 at June 06, 2016 07:07 AM (g8Hfr)

351 I made the sockpuppeteers list! And without any Michelle Fields socks either.

Thank you, thank you very much!

Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 06, 2016 07:12 AM (10hEu)

352 Why the heck does NPR need a photojournalist?

--

Why the heck do we need NPR?

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at June 06, 2016 07:15 AM (+FSld)

353 352 Why the heck does NPR need a photojournalist?

--

Why the heck do we need NPR?
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at June 06, 2016 07:15 AM

Why does NPR need a starship?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2016 07:16 AM (0mRoj)

354 Morning Horde.

Shout out for my good friend William McGirt. William won his first PGA event at Jack's Place, no less. Now 10th in FedEx points. Cashes a check for $1.53 million and he gets an invite to the Masters. Not bad for a week's worth of work.

And I know his dad frequents the HQ. A good Moron.

Posted by: Golfman at June 06, 2016 07:16 AM (b6FQn)

355 There was a third atomic bomb almost ready to use. Had a target been chosen for it?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 06, 2016 02:05 AM (GSdpU)
---------
Tokyo
Posted by: RioBravo

Moscow

Posted by: Zombie Gen Patton at June 06, 2016 07:17 AM (Doh4+)

356 354 Morning Horde.

Shout out for my good friend William McGirt. William won his first PGA event at Jack's Place, no less. Now 10th in FedEx points. Cashes a check for $1.53 million and he gets an invite to the Masters. Not bad for a week's worth of work.

And I know his dad frequents the HQ. A good Moron.
Posted by: Golfman at June 06, 2016 07:16 AM (b6FQn)

Good for him! Wish I was that good at something.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2016 07:17 AM (0mRoj)

357 "my safety is at risk if I am seen as supportive of Trump. So I'm taking the safe way out and endorsing Hillary Clinton for president."

Brave move there Scott. Maybe they will eat you last.

Posted by: freaked at June 06, 2016 07:19 AM (BO/km)

358 I made the sockpuppeteers list! And without any Michelle Fields socks either.

Thank you, thank you very much!

Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 06, 2016 07:12 AM (10hEu)
__________________________________

That was hurtful....

~sniff-sniff~

Posted by: Michelle Fields at June 06, 2016 07:22 AM (HSmrB)

359 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 06, 2016 07:32 AM (ZQfW9)

360 The comments on the Chuck Woolery article in the sidebar are profane, insane, and deranged.

IOW, standard liberal boilerplate.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 06, 2016 07:41 AM (iLoHX)

361 every Monday should come with free doughnuts.
or donuts.
or however Sefton tells us to spell it.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at June 06, 2016 07:43 AM (Z4hTv)

362 Re: Urban desecration

And what is the obsession with light rail as the supposed answer to transportation in cities? Every few years in Austin some group proposes building light rail and thinks putting it down a crowded, densely developed street adjacent to a university is a good idea. We have to fight this battle every few years. Latest proposal is guestimated to cost 400 Million for 5 miles or so.

Posted by: Ron Riley at June 06, 2016 07:46 AM (CZqym)

363
Many men the mighty thousands
Many men to Victory
Marching on right into Battle
In the longest day in history

Good morning horde
Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2016 04:32 AM (3wHFl)


A favorite of mine from Mitch Miller and the Gang

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 06, 2016 07:48 AM (fOgSR)

364
Harvard's Professor Mansbridge has a face that is badly in need of a fist.

Authoritarian bastard...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 06, 2016 07:51 AM (fOgSR)

365 Watch this, awesome black Trump supporter destroys Latina reporter who is asking bleeding white guy if he's a racist

http://youtu.be/RgNyFruflC4

Posted by: @votermom at June 06, 2016 08:06 AM (7lVbc)

366 @365 oops I just assumed it was Trump supporters but its still awesome to watch

Posted by: @votermom at June 06, 2016 08:07 AM (7lVbc)

367 >>>57 Scott Dilbert's strategy for not being assassinated in 2017 appears.
Posted by: iforgot at June 05, 2016 11:50 PM (5o5ek)

Which was pretty funny. I think he's rooting for Trump.

I've already seen a few anti-Trump ads. Hillary's people are working overtime to brand Trump. Of course, unlike the typical Republican candidate, I figure Trump will hit back.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at June 05, 2016 11:56 PM (Ee2nz)

_________

His "endorsement" of #TeamStrepThroat is another persuasion attempt. He endorsed Hillary in such a dirty manner for vile reasons that it persuades you vote Trump privately so as to not be associated with the awful reasons for his "endorsement"

Also, read his twitter. He's been trolling the violent Hillary supporters about their lame Hitler analogies too.

Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 06, 2016 08:19 AM (10hEu)

368 I saw someone say the San Jose place chief is "affiliated with" La Raza. Not sure what that means.

Posted by: @votermom at June 06, 2016 08:28 AM (7lVbc)

369 I wrote the mayor of San Jose and The SJ Visitors and Convention bureau's CEO, telling them that if they can't keep visitors or residents safe and they allow mob rule, any group of which I was a member would meet or visit Florida or Texas.

Posted by: vivi at June 06, 2016 08:44 AM (11H2y)

370 Greetings:

Eh, do they still tell "Goofy Newfy" jokes in Canada ???

Posted by: 11B40 at June 06, 2016 11:30 AM (evgyj)

(Jump to top of page)






Processing 0.04, elapsed 0.0486 seconds.
14 queries taking 0.0173 seconds, 378 records returned.
Page size 230 kb.
Powered by Minx 0.7 alpha.



MuNuvians
MeeNuvians
Polls! Polls! Polls!
Frequently Asked Questions
The (Almost) Complete Paul Anka Integrity Kick
Top Top Tens
Greatest Hitjobs

The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat