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Mid-Morning Open Thread [CBD]
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 07, 2016 09:56 AM (KUaJL)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 07, 2016 09:57 AM (KUaJL)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 07, 2016 09:57 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2016 09:58 AM (B48dK)
Posted by: Iron Eyes Cody at June 07, 2016 09:58 AM (gwG9s)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 09:58 AM (jFXTk)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 07, 2016 09:59 AM (KUaJL)
Posted by: Operation Dumbo Drop at June 07, 2016 10:00 AM (wx6iv)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 07, 2016 10:00 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 10:01 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 10:01 AM (7lVbc)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 07, 2016 10:01 AM (SGuSf)
Virgin dude on his wedding night can't get it up because hairy.
It's my understanding that most virgin dudes would not be deterred by feathers or wool.
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 09:52 AM (7lVbc)
Wasn't that what happened with the Victorian art critic John Ruskin? Having only seen nudes in paintings, he was disgusted by seeing the real thing on his wife.
Posted by: josephistan at June 07, 2016 10:01 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 07, 2016 10:01 AM (Mxs5H)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 10:02 AM (jFXTk)
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 07, 2016 10:02 AM (OxsRO)
First rule of AoSHQ: Never bing an unknown term/phrase you see at the HQ.
Second rule of AoSHQ: Never click the links.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 07, 2016 10:02 AM (gl5Kd)
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That was just fucking cruel man
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 10:03 AM (6TLl6)
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 07, 2016 10:03 AM (2cS/G)
Indeed. I suspect that I dodged a bullet. Or a flaming sack of dog poo.
Either way, I ain't click'n.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 10:03 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Infidel at June 07, 2016 10:04 AM (PPaJi)
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 07, 2016 10:03 AM (2cS/G)
Go raid Taco Bell for some sporks.
Posted by: josephistan at June 07, 2016 10:04 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 07, 2016 10:03 AM (2cS/G)
Switch to food that doesn't require utensils. Pizza is my go-to.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 07, 2016 10:04 AM (KUaJL)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 10:04 AM (jFXTk)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 07, 2016 09:59 AM (KUaJL
Snake
Snaaaaake
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 10:04 AM (6TLl6)
Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2016 10:04 AM (B48dK)
No, I am not making this up.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries Billy Kristol DIY Candidate Kits! at June 07, 2016 10:05 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 10:05 AM (jFXTk)
Posted by: General Zod at June 07, 2016 10:05 AM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 07, 2016 10:05 AM (KUaJL)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 10:04 AM (jFXTk)
Or perhaps Yoko screeching into a microphone
*sorry, had to help the horde out on that one. Too vile.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 10:05 AM (6TLl6)
Pro Tip: Chick Fil A has a bin of very nice plastic flatware, packaged for an entire serving.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 10:05 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: josephistan at June 07, 2016 10:01 AM (7HtZB)
This sounds vaguely familiar. Was it an artist? Anyway, to recap: dude sees wife's pubic hair on wedding night, freaks out, does not touch her, ever.
Dude then takes up masturbation, since he isn't getting it on with his wife. We know this because he made a secret little mark in his diary every time he whacked it.
Dude's messed up. Probably an artist. Or a chess player. That wouldn't surprise me, either.
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 07, 2016 10:05 AM (OxsRO)
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 07, 2016 10:03 AM (2cS/G)
Only now? The dishwasher is where you hide dirty dishes. It's like a resort for them, you dishaphobe.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries Billy Kristol DIY Candidate Kits! at June 07, 2016 10:06 AM (hLRSq)
We are talking about Ruskin - MP 4 was retelling the story.
I said my forethought when I heard the story awhile back was "ghey."
BC took offense on behalf of all pro-hairless guys, I think.
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 10:06 AM (7lVbc)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 09:58 AM (jFXTk)
Buffalo goes great with traditional Cherokee crab dip.
Posted by: josephistan at June 07, 2016 10:06 AM (7HtZB)
and teaspoons, situation dire. Considering loading the dishwasher. God
have mercy on me. Posted by: Lincolntf at June 07, 2016 10:03 AM (2cS/G)
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Don't have a dishwasher. I had four kids and their attached SOs, so I never saw the point. My youngest (home for the summer) and I are now at standoff -- and I bought plastic picnic stuff.
Posted by: mustbequantum at June 07, 2016 10:07 AM (MIKMs)
Excuse me now as I have to go take a very hot shower with Lysol and scrub and scrub and scrub and Dear God, it, it won't come off!!!11!!1 and scrub and scrub....
Posted by: naturalfake at June 07, 2016 10:07 AM (HGtd0)
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 10:07 AM (7lVbc)
Obviously after the nobel savages of North American had been corrupted by the evil white Europeans because the nobel savages of the plains didn't have horses until the invaders from Europe brought them to the New World.
So this slaughter of innocent wild life is solely the fault of the Christian invaders from Europe.
Posted by: Wu Chu, King of Chu at June 07, 2016 10:08 AM (xxTQ3)
We are talking about Ruskin - MP 4 was retelling the story.
I said my forethought when I heard the story awhile back was "ghey."
BC took offense on behalf of all pro-hairless guys, I think.
I thought you were talking about some weird news of the day. It pays to read all the posts.
Posted by: josephistan at June 07, 2016 10:08 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 07, 2016 10:08 AM (ZEzaq)
Posted by: Bud Norton at June 07, 2016 10:08 AM (6cOMd)
Buy a package of plastic ware for a $1.50.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 07, 2016 10:08 AM (ktOIC)
1,000 carcasses rotting in the sun and the Injuns decamping to go raid their nearest rival tribe's village to kidnap new squaws to fuck and satisfy their post-hunt bloodlust, leaving only a handful of properly skinned and parted out bison corpses. And 300 acres of scorched prairie.
Sharkman rates this painting's accuracy at 3 teepees out of 5.
Posted by: Sharkman at June 07, 2016 10:08 AM (u/afm)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:08 AM (uAvJJ)
and teaspoons, situation dire. Considering loading the dishwasher. God
have mercy on me.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 07, 2016 10:03 AM (2cS/G)
So you're alone and unsupervised?
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 07, 2016 10:08 AM (OxsRO)
But the site had to find something awesomely special in their primitive hunting method: "Because of their excellent understanding of the regional topography and bison behaviour..."
LOL. Yeah, bison fall over a cliff when they've been stampeded!
Posted by: PJ at June 07, 2016 10:09 AM (cHuNI)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 10:09 AM (jFXTk)
Posted by: eman at June 07, 2016 10:09 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 10:09 AM (I8Bd1)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 07, 2016 10:09 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Carl Denham at June 07, 2016 10:09 AM (gwG9s)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 10:09 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:08 AM (uAvJJ)
Only for AoSHQ Premium members.
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 07, 2016 10:09 AM (OxsRO)
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 07, 2016 10:09 AM (2cS/G)
Call 911 stat!
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 10:09 AM (jFXTk)
Posted by: General Zod at June 07, 2016 10:10 AM (Bdeb0)
It's not Two-fer Yoko like some assholes ONT a week or so ago
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 07, 2016 10:10 AM (voOPb)
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries Billy Kristol DIY Candidate Kits! at June 07, 2016 10:10 AM (hLRSq)
Meanwhile, back in The States:
Libertarian Party presidential nominee Gary Johnson opened up Monday about his marijuana use, but said he would not use the drug during his campaign or if hes elected president.
Johnson acknowledged using marijuana recreationally "as recently as a month ago." But he pledged not to use it going forward during his campaign or if hes elected president. "The notion of getting that call at midnight or two oclock. people need to know theres a firm voice on the other side," he said.
Johnson left a position as an executive at a marijuana company to run for president.
The Hill
The #NeverTrump alternative, ladies and gents.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 07, 2016 10:10 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 10:10 AM (I8Bd1)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 07, 2016 10:11 AM (ktOIC)
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Why you dirty..........
The only reason you are still allowed to breathe is that was not autoplay, but you are definitely going on the list.. oh yes, you are!
*frenzied scribbling*
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at June 07, 2016 10:11 AM (3Mimg)
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2016 10:11 AM (6xtq3)
But the site had to find something awesomely special in their primitive hunting method: "Because of their excellent understanding of the regional topography and bison behaviour..."
LOL. Yeah, bison fall over a cliff when they've been stampeded!
Posted by: PJ at June 07, 2016 10:09 AM (cHuNI)
Dave Barry is more reliable than the rest of the MSM.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries Billy Kristol DIY Candidate Kits! at June 07, 2016 10:11 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 10:12 AM (6TLl6)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 10:09 AM (jFXTk)
Yes, and I think the title is "Faggoty McFag and all the fags from Fagtown."
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 07, 2016 10:12 AM (OxsRO)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 10:12 AM (jFXTk)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 10:12 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 07, 2016 10:12 AM (2cS/G)
Posted by: Fritz at June 07, 2016 10:12 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 07, 2016 10:12 AM (NOIQH)
Paul Ryan on CNN right now calling Teh Donald a racist.
Fucker should just put on a Hillary button and come out of the closet.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 07, 2016 10:12 AM (X6fMO)
Open border, anti-gun William Weld, Obama's executive amnesty AOK with him.
Disgusting.
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at June 07, 2016 10:13 AM (laMCB)
Tomorrow, I consider my laundry situation.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 07, 2016 10:12 AM (2cS/G)
Pro tip: underwear can also be worn inside-out.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 07, 2016 10:13 AM (gl5Kd)
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 07, 2016 10:13 AM (jeVt0)
Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2016 10:13 AM (B48dK)
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 10:13 AM (7lVbc)
Dah fuq???"
Yeah, kinda missed that part. Probably due to overcelebration for not clicking linkage...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 10:13 AM (C9pBZ)
Did they never watch how male buffalo fight? Kinda like bighorn sheep. One guy swinging a stick will only piss off a bull buffalo.
Good way to be re-name GreasySpot
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 10:14 AM (LwB8i)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 07, 2016 10:13 AM (gl5Kd)
And then twice more, backwards.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 07, 2016 10:14 AM (KUaJL)
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 07, 2016 10:12 AM (2cS/G)
Package of 6 count underwear $10.00 at Target.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 07, 2016 10:14 AM (ktOIC)
Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2016 10:14 AM (B48dK)
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2016 10:14 AM (6xtq3)
Google makes everyone smarter. You have nothing to fear from Google.
Posted by: Wu Chu, King of Chu at June 07, 2016 10:14 AM (xxTQ3)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 07, 2016 10:12 AM (X6fMO)
This is your Uniparty. They fear being called raciss by the commie media more than anything
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at June 07, 2016 10:14 AM (laMCB)
Except for soaking - as hubby characterizes my approach to pots and pans: "Never met a dish that couldn't use a good soak!"
Posted by: Lizzy at June 07, 2016 10:14 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 07, 2016 10:14 AM (2cS/G)
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 07, 2016 10:12 AM (2cS/G)
***
Good Lord, man!
Using flatware and non-disposable plates and such.....
Needlessly wearing clothes.....
It's like I don't even know you any more.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 10:14 AM (lutOX)
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 10:13 AM (7lVbc)
There was a study done about that
I'll find it later
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 10:14 AM (6TLl6)
Posted by: Jeffrey Dahmer at June 07, 2016 10:15 AM (gwG9s)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 07, 2016 10:15 AM (iQIUe)
Un-Possible. Baseball was invented by the patriarchy.
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 10:15 AM (I8Bd1)
Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2016 10:15 AM (B48dK)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 10:15 AM (jFXTk)
Posted by: eman at June 07, 2016 10:15 AM (MQEz6)
Tomorrow, I consider my laundry situation.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 07, 2016 10:12 AM (2cS/G)
Pro tip: underwear can also be worn inside-out.
Four wears per pair.
Day 1. Regular front to back.
Day 2. Back to front
Day 3. Invert Front to back
Day 4. Inverted back to front
Day 5. New pair.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 10:16 AM (LwB8i)
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at June 07, 2016 10:16 AM (laMCB)
It's like I don't even know you any more"
Exactly. "Silverware" I can forgive. Wifey gone and no commando?
Unforgivable.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 10:16 AM (C9pBZ)
Now, some good news: apparently I asked for Friday off and completely forgot about it. So I only have two more days to drag myself through rather than three.
Yay me.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 07, 2016 10:16 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: runner at June 07, 2016 10:16 AM (c6/9Q)
Posted by: dantesed at June 07, 2016 10:16 AM (88xKn)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 07, 2016 10:17 AM (ZEzaq)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 10:17 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 10:17 AM (jFXTk)
From the last thread:
381
Interesting study on immigration, assimilation, and political ideology:
http://tinyurl.com/zja6xht
I'll just quote from the conclusion:
Immigrants have very similar political and policy views when compared to
fourth-generation Americans. For those policy and political questions
where first-generation immigrants have statistically significant
differences of opinions, the second and third generations do not vary
compared to the fourth generation, meaning that political assimilation
is complete by the second generation.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:06 AM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:17 AM (uAvJJ)
But, SO Humane.
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 10:17 AM (I8Bd1)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 10:18 AM (LwB8i)
Posted by: Vic
There's a cliff in CO, Montana, somewhere like that, where thousands of bones of extinct North American horses, camels, etc were found at the bottom of.
Clovis tools have been found with extinct horse DNA on them. The horse went extinct around 10-12k years ago here, but due to migration across the Bering Strait survived in the rest of the world.
It was then reintroduced to the Americas by the Spaniards.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 07, 2016 10:19 AM (gyKtp)
Posted by: Hillary! at June 07, 2016 10:19 AM (YCHOA)
Posted by: eman at June 07, 2016 10:19 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2016 10:19 AM (B48dK)
Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2016 10:19 AM (B48dK)
Bat man should just use his bat buffalo repellent.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 07, 2016 10:20 AM (KUaJL)
***
So, FOUR GENERATIONS FROM NOW, everything should be peachy-keen.
Great plan.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 10:20 AM (lutOX)
Yeah. 2,000 lb buffalo vs 140 lb man.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 10:20 AM (LwB8i)
Nonsense. The Natives used the whole animal.
EVERY. PART.
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 10:20 AM (I8Bd1)
Do you club them first before they go over the cliff? That seems like wasted effort.
It's not as if they're like those baby seals.
Deadly, those things.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 07, 2016 10:21 AM (gl5Kd)
Posted by: eman at June 07, 2016 10:21 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Robert Blake at June 07, 2016 10:21 AM (e8U/R)
"The driver of an SUV that plunged 200 feet off a Maui cliff has been charged with second-degree murder in connection with the crash, which killed her twin sister."
http://tinyurl.com/hjsg2d4
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 07, 2016 10:21 AM (rlfds)
So we're good 80 years or so from now? How comforting.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 10:21 AM (C9pBZ)
And ChemJeff, turn off the politics for just a few minutes and simply have fun. It's not like it would take you over a cliff or anything to have fun would it?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 10:21 AM (jFXTk)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 10:21 AM (6TLl6)
They forced their way here illegally when the water barrier between the continents was temporarily dried up.
That's why they won't allow autopsies or research into the ancient dead corpses that people sometimes dig up. They don't want anyone to know that they came here less than 20,000 years ago and started killing and destroying the native species.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at June 07, 2016 10:21 AM (ECJ+C)
Posted by: Mark Ruffalo at June 07, 2016 10:21 AM (gwG9s)
Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2016 10:21 AM (B48dK)
One of the innacuracies? One of the Indians is using a woman's pack saddle rather than riding bareback.
The commenter even reveals that a short cliff such as is shown is called a "buffalo jump", which tells you all you need to know about how commonly this hunting practice was utilized.
Despite depicting something as wasteful as this, the painter still believed that Indian culture was far superior to that of whites and that their lives represented unfettered freedom.
Rather, of course, than just another tribe of humans being just as human as any other group of people in Earth's savage history. I think the only thing the artist could have added to this piece to make it more accurate would have been some smallpox infected blankets.
Posted by: Sharkman at June 07, 2016 10:22 AM (u/afm)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 07, 2016 10:22 AM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 07, 2016 10:22 AM (jeVt0)
Good morning from the northern plains, home of many pishkuns.
Posted by: Fairweather Bill at June 07, 2016 10:22 AM (yrLWV)
Which reminds me, I went to Wal-Mart with kid the elder recently. She went to the bathroom.
When she came back she said, the difference between Target and Wal-Mart is that in the Target restroom, the sign says something like If you have any complaints about the cleanliness of this facility please let us know.
The sign in the Wal-Mart restroom.says "Shoplifting is a crime."
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 10:23 AM (7lVbc)
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 10:23 AM (I8Bd1)
Yeah, we were big into smoking meats before the Europeans came.
Hard part was keeping it lit, though.
/i'll be here all week. STBU, huh?
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 10:23 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 10:23 AM (jFXTk)
Posted by: huerfano at June 07, 2016 10:23 AM (jkkMG)
Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 10:24 AM (10hEu)
as any other group of people in Earth's savage history.
Exactly!!
Posted by: Hannah Dustin, un-PC colonial badass at June 07, 2016 10:24 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: eman at June 07, 2016 10:19 AM (MQEz6)
You will have to be more specific in your question.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:24 AM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 10:24 AM (I8Bd1)
Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2016 10:15 AM (B48dK)
David Brock, before he became demented, examined Bill n' Hill's tax records for the American Spectator magazine and saw that they claimed a tax write-off for donating their used underwear (presumably laundered) to charity. Perhaps that is what you're thinking of.
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 07, 2016 10:24 AM (OxsRO)
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 07, 2016 10:25 AM (jeVt0)
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 07, 2016 10:03 AM (2cS/G)
Do NOT load the dishwasher if you care about your wife. If she sees you've used it she'll pass out from the shock and could be injured.
Posted by: stace at June 07, 2016 10:25 AM (ozZau)
139 So, you are cool with Amnesty?
Posted by: eman at June 07, 2016 10:19 AM (MQEz6)
You will have to be more specific in your question.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:24 AM (uAvJJ)
Cute.
Just admit it.
Posted by: eman at June 07, 2016 10:25 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 10:25 AM (g8Hfr)
I say, old chap, that just wasn't cricket!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 07, 2016 10:25 AM (v5iqM)
"The driver of an SUV that plunged 200 feet off a Maui cliff has been charged with second-degree murder in connection with the crash, which killed her twin sister."
http://tinyurl.com/hjsg2d4
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 07, 2016 10:21 AM (rlfds)
Judge, I request that she be placed under house arrest. She can stay at my home and I will make sure she is punished.
http://tinyurl.com/hy92njs
*rons - it's safe....and worth it.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 10:25 AM (6TLl6)
Posted by: Screeching Hag at June 07, 2016 10:25 AM (10hEu)
Posted by: Geronimo at June 07, 2016 10:26 AM (yqvys)
The best part if the K Costner "dances with cows" idiot apologists who act as though the Amerinds were not as ruthless, or inventive as any other human.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 10:26 AM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2016 10:26 AM (B48dK)
Posted by: One Who Makes Buffaloes Fly at June 07, 2016 10:26 AM (YGGU4)
Mrs Mouse chuckled at the sign in Texas: "It is illegal to consume beer or liquor on the premises"
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 10:26 AM (C9pBZ)
Great plan. Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 10:20 AM (lutOX)
Actually, the second generation views were measured to be statistically insignificant from the fourth generation views.
And if you look at the figures, the difference between 1st generation and 4th generation were statistically significant, but not overwhelmingly so. It's not like a 50-point difference or anything.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:26 AM (uAvJJ)
Commander gets canned.
Glad to see that the Marines are not exempt from clusterfuckery.
http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=66187
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 07, 2016 10:27 AM (rlfds)
Posted by: eman at June 07, 2016 10:19 AM (MQEz6)
You will have to be more specific in your question.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:24 AM (uAvJJ)
***
That means 'yes.'
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 10:27 AM (lutOX)
They've excavated both paleo and modern bison bones there, so the Indians used it for a very long time.
Posted by: stace at June 07, 2016 10:27 AM (ozZau)
Posted by: William Rushkin at June 07, 2016 10:27 AM (ZEzaq)
Just admit it.
Posted by: eman at June 07, 2016 10:25 AM (MQEz6)
Again you will have to be more specific with your question.
If your question is, "do I support granting US citizenship to every person on the planet", then the answer is no.
Is that what you asked?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:27 AM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: Lincolnstf
Good Lord, man! It's like we don't even know you any more!
Just pile everything in the sink and pour a bottle of vodka over all of it.
Man Card Status:
[ ] Revoked
[X] Suspended
[ ] Current
Posted by: Sharkman at June 07, 2016 10:27 AM (u/afm)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 07, 2016 10:27 AM (Nwg0u)
The Amerinds were like dandelion munching elves man...
NOTHING bad happened 'til
//K Costner-asshole
Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 10:27 AM (g8Hfr)
their lives represented unfettered freedom.
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Uh-huh. Read descriptions sometime of what would happen to adulteresses and POWs.
Posted by: iforgot at June 07, 2016 10:27 AM (pC96u)
Cute.
Just admit it.
Posted by: eman at June 07, 2016 10:25 AM (MQEz6)
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You are wasting your time arguing with him. Many many MANY posts have been wasted uncovering that he's either a dishonest troll and/or too autistic to understand.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 10:28 AM (10hEu)
How many fascist leaders in local, state and national office can you vote in over the next 80 years to make this place more like home (e.g. Venezuela, Mexico)?
Posted by: Hannah Dustin, un-PC colonial badass at June 07, 2016 10:28 AM (NOIQH)
And if you look at the figures, the difference between 1st generation and 4th generation were statistically significant, but not overwhelmingly so. It's not like a 50-point difference or anything.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:26 AM (uAvJJ)
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Yep. They come here lefty, and then identify themselves as 'moderates' in later generations.
Buena cosa, amigo.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 10:28 AM (lutOX)
Just any that manage to get here...
that narrows the list down to potentially 4 billion or so.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 10:28 AM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: Wu Chu, King of Chu at June 07, 2016 10:28 AM (xxTQ3)
Can't seem to sell it locally due to high mileage.
Posted by: Infidel at June 07, 2016 10:29 AM (PPaJi)
Posted by: Fritz at June 07, 2016 10:29 AM (UzPAd)
No, it means "be more specific".
Words like "amnesty" and "open borders" have turned into nothing more than slurs around here, like calling someone a "commie". Anyone who doesn't support Donald Trump's "deportation force" is labeled as being in favor of "amnesty" or "open borders" even though it is entirely consistent to be opposed to both some "deportation force" and also opposed to mass amnesty.
Perhaps we could have some more rigor in this discussion?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:29 AM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: Corona at June 07, 2016 10:29 AM (ragzU)
Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at June 07, 2016 10:30 AM (QlyN5)
It's also neat that Chemjeff and this "SCIENCE!" ignore the fact the left killed the melting pot and have instituted pressure cooker as the new normal in assimilation.
Totes just like the folks who got here before Tedster Kennedy shat out our current rules.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 10:30 AM (g8Hfr)
Is that what you asked?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:27 AM (uAvJJ)
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Okay, let's go with that. What is the objection to granting citizenship to every person on the planet?
Let's say they somehow manage to get here, even and remove the 'mail-order citizenship' thing.
Why say no, and on what basis?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 10:30 AM (lutOX)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 07, 2016 10:30 AM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: eman at June 07, 2016 10:25 AM (MQEz6)
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You are wasting your time arguing with him. Many many MANY posts have been wasted uncovering that he's either a dishonest troll and/or too autistic to understand.
Posted by: TeamRawDog
Yeah. Don't have the time and energy to waste arguing with a semantics professor.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 10:31 AM (LwB8i)
Just the ones that can afford University?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 07, 2016 10:31 AM (Mxs5H)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 10:31 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 10:31 AM (7lVbc)
It's not amnesty if we allow the donks to grant every person on Earth 6500 bucks in EITC honest injun'...
Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 10:31 AM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 07, 2016 10:32 AM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Kimjeff at June 07, 2016 10:32 AM (ZEzaq)
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Let's tax Mexico.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 07, 2016 10:32 AM (Nwg0u)
Ah, the jwest immigration plan.
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 10:32 AM (I8Bd1)
https://youtu.be/pwZlYmY4upQ
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 10:32 AM (jFXTk)
and given we are in the process of gifting pell grants to illegals that would AGAIN be "all"
Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 10:32 AM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 10:32 AM (C9pBZ)
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We used to call that 'deportation force' Immigration officers.
So, we don't deport. and that's not amnesty - in the sense of an absence of official sanction or other penalty for coming and residing in the nation illegally - in what sense, exactly?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 10:32 AM (lutOX)
Posted by: Young's Jersey Dairy at June 07, 2016 10:33 AM (gwG9s)
Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2016 10:33 AM (B48dK)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 07, 2016 10:33 AM (lHb9q)
Buena cosa, amigo.
Actually, if you look at some of the figures in the study, particularly Figure 8, the percentage of people who thought government spends too little on welfare, was pretty close to the SAME for 1st generation and 4th generation citizens.
Your statement is not universally true.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 10:28 AM (10hEu)
Oh sod off. I'm not interested in talking to those who can't respond intelligently.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:34 AM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 07, 2016 10:34 AM (ktOIC)
Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 10:31 AM (g8Hfr)
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Be cheaper - and better all around - to pay them to stay home.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 10:34 AM (lutOX)
Oh it gets better, wanting borders is rayciss and we just allow them to hang here and use the IRS sanctioned felony fraud identity theft to get the EITC for every Juan and Juanita back in Mexopolis....
yeah not amnesty....more like codified theft by deception but not amnesty.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 10:34 AM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 10:34 AM (I8Bd1)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 07, 2016 10:33 AM (lHb9q)
Because they were so in harmony with nature, they sensed that the buffalo were depressed and were simply assisting them in suicide. Very humane.
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 10:35 AM (7lVbc)
Posted by: CrustyB at June 07, 2016 10:35 AM (GvSpB)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck>>>
Were The Deer and Antelope band playing?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 07, 2016 10:35 AM (Mxs5H)
Ah, you were stumped in the previous thread, I see...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 10:35 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 07, 2016 10:35 AM (lHb9q)
You gotta give indians for one thing, buffalo wings are delicious.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 07, 2016 10:36 AM (/tuJf)
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And buffalo are about as smart as LIVs.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 07, 2016 10:36 AM (Nwg0u)
Don't have the time and energy to waste arguing with a semantics professor.
Posted by: rickb223
Define what you mean by "time".
Posted by: Autistic Intenet Argumentation 101
Define what you mean by "define".
Posted by: Autistic Intenet Argumentation 102
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 07, 2016 10:36 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 07, 2016 10:36 AM (Nwg0u)
That's insulting to the buffalo.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 07, 2016 10:36 AM (KUaJL)
Posted by: Ripley at June 07, 2016 10:37 AM (1BQGO)
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As long as we're spit-balling, do you suppose any part of that lack of difference might be the result of a shift in the social and political environment brought about by the demographics and voting habits of the first and second generations?
I'm not sure it can be quantified, but it's undeniable that social order does develop over time.
The politics of California, for example, render a Reagan impossible today, and all that has really changed is demography.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 10:37 AM (lutOX)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 07, 2016 10:37 AM (lHb9q)
Judging by the presence of that (white, get it, white) horse, these Indians have been previously corrupted by the oppressive white patriarchal Euro-culture that continues to run roughshod and rough-unshod over peaceful and spiritual minority communities the world over.
Posted by: 11B40 at June 07, 2016 10:37 AM (evgyj)
Posted by: Young's Jersey Dairy at June 07, 2016 10:33 AM (gwG9s)
That's because the Walmart bathrooms have signs that say SHOOTING UP HEROIN IN OUR RESTROOMS IS A CRIME, and curiously, that seems to work.
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 07, 2016 10:37 AM (OxsRO)
Posted by: Bernie Brigade at June 07, 2016 10:37 AM (gwG9s)
Wait, are you calling this rigorous discourse by another name?
H8TER!!!
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 10:38 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 07, 2016 10:38 AM (LA7Cm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2v=CVEuPmVAb8o
Posted by: Hannah Dustin, un-PC colonial badass at June 07, 2016 10:38 AM (NOIQH)
Why would you want to argue with some anti virus coder who works for Norton?
I don't get the joke. Must be some kind of word game lost in translation.
Posted by: Wu Chu, King of Chu at June 07, 2016 10:38 AM (xxTQ3)
Posted by: runner at June 07, 2016 10:39 AM (c6/9Q)
Ah, so that's the link. (and yes, I'm patting myself on the back for not clicking. Again.)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 10:39 AM (C9pBZ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdYOjUqlcFA
(Both shamelessly stolen from http://www.bookwormroom.com/)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 07, 2016 10:39 AM (NOIQH)
Yes but those views are still leftist so...
Posted by: Lauren at June 07, 2016 10:40 AM (5q6zz)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 07, 2016 10:36 AM (Nwg0u)
You take that back! We're way smarter than that.
Posted by: a buffalo at June 07, 2016 10:40 AM (OxsRO)
Don't have the time and energy to waste arguing with a semantics professor.
Posted by: rickb223
Define what you mean by "time".
Posted by: Autistic Intenet Argumentation 101
Define what you mean by "define".
Posted by: Autistic Intenet Argumentation 102
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 07, 2016 10:36 AM (kdS6q)
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Define what you mean by "mean" you meanie!
Posted by: Spergin4Life at June 07, 2016 10:40 AM (10hEu)
Don't try to horn into the dude's act. We'll be drowning in puns.
Now hoof it outta here.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 10:40 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 07, 2016 10:41 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 07, 2016 10:41 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at June 07, 2016 10:41 AM (LD35X)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at June 07, 2016 10:42 AM (LD35X)
Ugh. Read a case on the reservation. Indian couple and their adult daughter stopped to help Indian kid with car trouble. He shot all three, robbed them, drove away with car. Daughter survived. Parents were hard working, ready to retire, involved in a lot of community activities, had a lot of foster kids, had very full lives. The murderer was 18 and the USAG decided to not file the death penalty.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 07, 2016 10:42 AM (iQIUe)
That isn't what Trump said. He said "deportation force".
Trump was pressed for specifics on
MSNBC's "Morning Joe" by co-host Mika Brzezinski, who asked if he would
have a "massive deportation force.""You're
going to have a deportation force, and you're going to do it humanely,"
Trump said. "Don't forget, Mika, that you have millions of people that
are waiting in line to come into this country and they're waiting to
come in legally. And I always say the wall, we're going to build the
wall. It's going to be a real deal. It's going to be a real wall."
http://tinyurl.com/zrytrk3
So what exactly is this "deportation force"?
Actually I think Trump walked into a gotcha question from Mika, and then as usual, stupid oozed from his mouth in trying to answer it.
So, we don't deport.
See, no one here is arguing this position. I'm all in favor of deporting recent illegals. I'm not in favor of some dragnet force that goes house to house trying to hunt down every last one, particularly ones who have been here a long time and are being productive people.
And that is one of the frustrating parts of this discussion. The discussion is so polarized, that either you must be in favor of deporting every single illegal, or you must be in favor of granting amnesty to every single illegal. I don't favor either end.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:43 AM (uAvJJ)
They forced their way here illegally when the water barrier between the continents was temporarily dried up.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at June 07, 2016 10:21 AM (ECJ+C)
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God damn Mongorians...
Posted by: City Wok Guy at June 07, 2016 10:43 AM (BDZWU)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2016 10:43 AM (wCx1p)
Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 10:28 AM (10hEu)
One of the simpler tactics is to lead someone deeper into the weeds by parsing out all of the trivial exceptions to a general statement. It blunts a person's point that way. It's similar to what Sexypig was doing yesterday on the "Trump and the judge" thread when he/she was going on about Italian-American Bar Associations and Irish American Bar Associations and so on.
It is best to just stick to your conclusion and let that person go off on his own blathering on in his sophistry about exceptions and codicils and so forth.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries Billy Kristol DIY Candidate Kits! at June 07, 2016 10:43 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 07, 2016 10:43 AM (lHb9q)
Perhaps we could have some more rigor in this discussion?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:29 AM (uAvJJ)
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Nah brah. It's pretty black and white on this issue. Either you enforce immigration laws or you don't. Saying, well we could just let in some illegals is like saying you;'re a little pregnant.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 10:44 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2016 10:44 AM (wCx1p)
Yeah. Damn indians killed and scalped every white man in Hidden Valley for the ranch dressing to go on their buffalo wings.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 10:45 AM (LwB8i)
I've never voted for a Socialist before but I'd sure rather see him over the evil crime lord who wants to sell America out.
Posted by: MTF at June 07, 2016 10:45 AM (/m8T6)
Yes but those views are still leftist so... Posted by: Lauren at June 07, 2016 10:40 AM (5q6zz)
Not really. Take a look at the link that I posted.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:45 AM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:43 AM (uAvJJ)
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Oh? So deporting some people is OK, but deporting other people is the equivalent of the SS? Interesting. Kind of the Churchill whore story.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 10:45 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Pete in TX at June 07, 2016 10:46 AM (2RBkF)
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I am in favor of deporting every illegal.
It's called enforcing the law.
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 10:46 AM (7lVbc)
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren, aka Dances With Wolf Blitzer at June 07, 2016 10:46 AM (Ndje9)
Deport ANY and ALL Illegals. I don't give a rat's ass how long they have been living here, or what they have been doing.
They are ALL criminals.
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 10:46 AM (I8Bd1)
1) You can have the welfare state, or you can have immigration. Pick one;
2) It is useless and embarrassing to argue that immigrants - especially the post '65 masses from the Third World - do not in all respects correspond in terms of culture, habits of life, and political traditions, with the traditional character of the citizenry of the United States who arrived before, say, the '20's or '30's;
3) Differences in travel, communications, and the like, have made it possible for a recent immigrant to remain in more or less regular, if not constant, contact with his homeland and its culture and habits of thought. My angel came here in '78, and the only communication with the place they left was by letter, which took weeks to months; the same was true for my own families' immigrants.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 10:47 AM (lutOX)
Fraud nation.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 07, 2016 10:47 AM (ry34m)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 07, 2016 10:47 AM (IqV8l)
"Words" like "amnesty" and "open borders" have turned into "nothing" more than "slurs" around "here", like calling someone a "commie". "Anyone" who doesn't "support" Donald Trump's "deportation force" is labeled as being in "favor" of "amnesty" or "open borders" even though it is entirely "consistent" to be "opposed" to both some "deportation force" and also "opposed" to "mass amnesty"
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Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 07, 2016 10:47 AM (kdS6q)
Apparently not since they killed an ate all the horses once. Camels too, apparently.
Couldn't figure out how to ride the things so they just ate'm all.
Posted by: Wu Chu, King of Chu at June 07, 2016 10:47 AM (xxTQ3)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 10:48 AM (C9pBZ)
Oh sod off. I'm not interested in talking to those who can't respond intelligently.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:34 AM (uAvJJ)
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No one is questioning your intelligence.
What is in question that you do not argue honestly and in good faith.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 10:48 AM (10hEu)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 07, 2016 10:47 AM (IqV8l)
Oh, they came out. Is that why the buffalo gals are willing to go dancing all the time?
Posted by: Kindltot at June 07, 2016 10:48 AM (ry34m)
One of our biggest problems US too many Damon laws that are enforced selectively.
Make me dictator and I will impose a maximum of 100 laws. If a new law is to be imposed, an old one must first be repealed.
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 10:49 AM (7lVbc)
Is this the legendary "brink of extinction" of which we've heard so much?
Where is it? Nebraska?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2016 10:49 AM (wCx1p)
The problem is our lawless government.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 07, 2016 10:49 AM (ZEzaq)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 10:50 AM (6TLl6)
Yeah, there is. Fascinating thing though, is that up to around 2008 or so, there were some official estimates of "black market" or other "off the books" economies.
Oddly enough, such study seems to have fallen off a cliff around 08.
Funny, that. Right?
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 10:50 AM (C9pBZ)
Man Card Status:
[ ] Revoked
[X] Suspended
[ ] Current
Posted by: Sharkman at June 07, 2016 10:27 AM
Wait.....who wastes vodka like that?! Drink the vodka, and the problem will seem a lot less serious.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 07, 2016 10:50 AM (bzd8I)
Posted by: MTF at June 07, 2016 10:45 AM (/m8T6)
=====Which evil crime lord?
Posted by: mustbequantum at June 07, 2016 10:50 AM (MIKMs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdYOjUqlcFA
(Both shamelessly stolen from http://www.bookwormroom.com/)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 07, 2016 10:39 AM (NOIQH)
So Bern's wife became the head of a college, ran it into the ground, and then ran away with a $200,000 salary bonus.
Why is the MSM not covering this like they covered Romney's dog carrier?
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 07, 2016 10:51 AM (OxsRO)
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 10:51 AM (7lVbc)
Either you enforce immigration laws or you don't. Saying, well we could
just let in some illegals is like saying you;'re a little pregnant.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 10:44 AM (0LHZx)
Well then, let's use a simpler example.
We have speed limits in this country, but of course, they are rarely enforced strictly.
Do you favor "enforcing the speed limit laws"? Doing what is necessary to crack down every last person who goes 1 mph over the speed limit? Because if you don't, you are opposed to the rule of law, you know....
Perhaps the costs might outweigh the benefits in this particular case?
If you are not in favor of tracking down every last speeder, would that make you opposed to the rule of law?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:51 AM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: Roy at June 07, 2016 10:51 AM (VndSC)
What is in question that you do not argue honestly and in good faith.
He's shop steward of his Local Goal Post Movers Union #632.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 10:51 AM (LwB8i)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 07, 2016 10:51 AM (/tuJf)
No mass deportations with forces going door-to-door - wasn't aware that was on the table, but, hey, why not? - but we DO deport, somehow, only recent arrivals who will be able to document the extent of their contributions to the commonweal adequately, of course, and for those working, I suppose we overlook the fact they worked here illegally and/or committed identity theft to procure employment, but, again, let's go with it.
So, I'm Mateo from Guatemala - prove I haven't been here ten years.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 10:52 AM (lutOX)
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at June 07, 2016 10:52 AM (yG7Ca)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 07, 2016 09:59 AM (KUaJL)
Love that.
Posted by: m at June 07, 2016 10:52 AM (/7Lfc)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:29 AM (uAvJJ)
Looks like somebody scored the winning ticket in last week's PowerQuoteMarks lottery.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2016 10:52 AM (wCx1p)
We can do what everyone else does: foreigners carry their passports everywhere and produce them on demand. Without a valid visa they cannot rent hotel rooms and apartments, and certainly cannot enter i to contracts like mortgages. Without valid work papers they cannot work.
This policy works everywhere else in the world, and will obviously work here.
Posted by: MTF, please excuse iphone spelling errors at June 07, 2016 10:52 AM (/m8T6)
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 10:49 AM (7lVbc)
Darn tootin'.
Posted by: Matt Damon at June 07, 2016 10:52 AM (OxsRO)
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I am in favor of deporting every illegal.
It's called enforcing the law.
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 10:46 AM (7lVbc)
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Do you ever hear anyone say, well we should only arrest 20% of murderers? Or well, I realize there are thousands of people out there driving drunk, but really, there's no need to try and arrest them all. If we just arrest the "bad" drunks, it's OK.
Yet for illegals, the idea that you allow 70-80% of criminals to just walk away is perfectly acceptable.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 10:53 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:51 AM (uAvJJ)
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And, if you're in favor of allowing a person CAUGHT speeding to go free without consequence because he's really a decent guy, and he's been speeding for a long, long time without incident.......
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 10:53 AM (lutOX)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 07, 2016 10:53 AM (39g3+)
And I clicked the safe space link but had muted the speakers first. Mwah ha haah.
Posted by: mindful webworker - art schmart at June 07, 2016 10:53 AM (dDUXP)
Here, tool down 59 at 75 mph while not really paying attention to a few small towns.
Let us know how that "enforcement" thing works out for you...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 10:54 AM (C9pBZ)
And build the wall;
And make Mexico haftapay,
Enforcing Visa overstays;
That is the Trumpist plan,
With no libertarian boogeyman;
#TrumpRhymes
Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 10:54 AM (10hEu)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 07, 2016 10:54 AM (Nwg0u)
This policy works everywhere else in the world, and will obviously work here.
Posted by: MTF, please excuse iphone spelling errors at June 07, 2016 10:52 AM (/m8T6)
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Bbbbbbut privacy!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 10:54 AM (0LHZx)
That really is all that needs to be said.
"Rigor". "Deportation force". Let's add a few: "self-awareness" and "irony".
Words that have perfectly good, specific meanings (that you and many others cannot seem to understand), are "slurs".
If you don't understand that enforcement of laws is required for them to be effective, and that anything other than full enforcement of immigration law and return to rule of law in related matters internally guarantees (guarantees) exacerbation of the current situation - probably massively so - then you are not a serious person. At least on this huge issue.
And the "study" you reference is most likely meaningless (aside from whatever utility it has anyway - how are political views measured ..... is it just another "Fox News viewers LESS informed!" bit of garbage?).
So places that are now dominated by racism and authoritarianism and lawlessness and rent-seeking in "governance" - CA, for example - that are also without exception the states with the largest immigrant populations (recent, longer ago, legal, illegal) will ..... stay that way.
Buffalo jump!
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2016 10:54 AM (QDnY+)
How many Billions are the 1 mph speeders costing us?
Do the math. Show your work. And then we'll put it on the list.
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 10:55 AM (I8Bd1)
Make me dictator and I will impose a maximum of 100 laws. If a new law is to be imposed, an old one must first be repealed.
That's Law #1
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2016 10:55 AM (wCx1p)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 07, 2016 10:54 AM (Nwg0u)
I throw away the bun.
But then my kids give me their pickles, so it evens out.
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 10:55 AM (7lVbc)
Are you in favor of doing everything necessary to track down every single last speeder?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:55 AM (uAvJJ)
This policy works everywhere else in the world, and will obviously work here.
Except you have sanctuary cities, Section 8 housing, WIC, SNAP, Food Stamps, SSDI, etc.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 10:55 AM (LwB8i)
Posted by: MTF, please excuse iphone spelling errors at June 07, 2016 10:55 AM (/m8T6)
enhanced for historical accuracy
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 07, 2016 10:55 AM (ZQfW9)
Posted by: Pimping for Paradise at June 07, 2016 10:56 AM (2X7pN)
Are you in favor of doing everything necessary to track down every single last speeder?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:55 AM (uAvJJ)
Yes. You now in favor of finding every wetback and tossing their ass out? If not, sod off.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 10:56 AM (LwB8i)
Do the math. Show your work. And then we'll put it on the list.
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 10:55 AM (I8Bd1)
Now THAT is some goalpost moving right there. This is about the principle of the rule of law, right?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:56 AM (uAvJJ)
He's shop steward of his Local Goal Post Movers Union #632.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 10:51 AM (LwB8i)
______
Its good work, if you can get it.
Now vote Hillary...or else...
Posted by: SEIU Thug at June 07, 2016 10:56 AM (10hEu)
Well, isn't that rayciss or something?
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 10:56 AM (C9pBZ)
That's Law #1
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2016 10:55 AM (wCx1p)
Yes it is. I appoint you Chancellor. I'm not sure what your job will but it includes reading my scrolls to the court.
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 10:56 AM (7lVbc)
Posted by: Matt Damon at June 07, 2016 10:57 AM (OxsRO)
Posted by: Guy who wants nuance at June 07, 2016 10:57 AM (IqV8l)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 07, 2016 10:57 AM (WTSFk)
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 10:56 AM (7lVbc)
And fetching some iced tea
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 10:57 AM (6TLl6)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 07, 2016 10:58 AM (WTSFk)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 07, 2016 10:58 AM (kdS6q)
But then my kids give me their pickles, so it evens out.
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 10:55 AM (7lVbc)
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 07, 2016 10:58 AM (OxsRO)
How long is a "long time?" 2 years? 30?
With the consequence of your proposal here being, of course, an incentive that if an illegal can escape notice for a period of time then he's home free. And that incents other people to try it. Kind of like the way people keep playing the Powerball.
Enforce the law or forget about it. This little-bit-pregnant rap of yours is why immigration policy is a big mess.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 07, 2016 10:58 AM (eytER)
Chemjeff sure likes spending time in the barrel.
Reminds me of the joke with the bear asking the hunter "You dont really come here to hunt, do you?"
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at June 07, 2016 10:58 AM (yG7Ca)
This attitude toward quotation marks is much the same as the Indians had toward buffalo. Waste, waste, waste, there are plenty more where those came from!
And then one bitter day you will find you have no quotation marks, just as you find you are without ampersands. Then where will you be?
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at June 07, 2016 10:59 AM (u0lmX)
Answer the question first, then we'll take you seriously. Until then, here, have a buffalo pie.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 10:59 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2016 10:59 AM (wCx1p)
Are you in favor of doing everything necessary to track down every single last speeder?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:55 AM (uAvJJ)
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Okay, I'll answer it - of course not.
Don't be absurd.
But when a person is speeding, and is caught in the act, surely, something ought to be done?
But this is all foolishness.
Ask yourself what is the purpose of speed limit laws, and what is the purpose of immigration laws? The answers to those are the key to the whole matter, and show the two simply are not comparable as categories of legislation.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 10:59 AM (lutOX)
=================================
Of course you do, but in this thread we are imagining a hypothetical world where America enforces its laws and borders. In that alternate reality "sanctuary cities" will be harshly treated by the authorities.
I was only commenti g, by the way, on the silly strawman arguments raised by GOPe and the left: "Mass deportations! Mass deportations!"
Such silly crap.
Posted by: MTF, please excuse iphone spelling errors at June 07, 2016 11:00 AM (/m8T6)
Everyone knows speeders undermine the entire concept of national sovereignty just like Amigo Grande!
It's a specious argument, there are costs to crime...
one huge cost to illegal immigration is our national identity.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 11:00 AM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at June 07, 2016 11:00 AM (yG7Ca)
But then my kids give me their pickles, so it evens out.
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 10:55 AM (7lVbc)
Heh. Mrs. Muse does the same thing. She'll remove the hamburger patty, toss the bun, and mix the meat into the salad she's making/
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 07, 2016 11:00 AM (OxsRO)
betcha.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 07, 2016 11:00 AM (WTSFk)
ps -- I broke my budget buying a longer-handled pruner to handle my jungle growth. Tried to talk youngest kid into going with me to keep my tool fetish under control, but everyone hates going to the hardware store with me -- a quick trip can take hours.
Posted by: mustbequantum at June 07, 2016 11:00 AM (MIKMs)
*just walks away from keyboard
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 11:00 AM (6TLl6)
So we can start giving illegals tickets?
Hmm.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 11:00 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Colin at June 07, 2016 11:01 AM (fxoKC)
A really gay band.
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at June 07, 2016 11:00 AM (yG7Ca)
Ew. You're so right.
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 11:01 AM (7lVbc)
It's a good thing you are a Chemist, because Critical Thinking is not your strength.
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 11:01 AM (I8Bd1)
But, to go with 'speeding' - it is possible to speed without meaning to, without realizing it; there are even circumstances under the law in which violation of the local speed limits is permissible. It is difficult to imagine immigrating accidentally, and it beggars imagination to conceive of a circumstance that would make illegal immigration permissible on the basis of some other legally-recognized necessity.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 11:01 AM (lutOX)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2016 10:59 AM (wCx1p)
Of course not. That will the job of another highly paid .gov functionary.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 11:02 AM (6TLl6)
"I'm not a whore I just take money for sex!"
//Your Chamber of Commerce GOP
we are doomed as a nation becase 1/3 to 2/3ds of the GOP will cave on every issue so as to not be "mean" as defined by the left.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 11:02 AM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 07, 2016 11:02 AM (IqV8l)
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 07, 2016 11:00 AM (OxsRO)
*hi-fives Mrs Muse*
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 11:02 AM (7lVbc)
Do you mean, "me love you long time", or, " you ben heah fo owa, you go now!"?
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 11:02 AM (LwB8i)
And then one bitter day you will find you have no quotation marks, just as you find you are without ampersands. Then where will you be?
In the clutches of the Italicans.
Yes! Yes! Use the quotation marks, CJ! Let your hatred compel you!
-- Emperor Palpitate the Skeevy, Lord of the Italicans
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2016 11:03 AM (wCx1p)
Barbary pirates?
They inspired us to create our Navy, right?
Posted by: Lizzy at June 07, 2016 11:03 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: runner at June 07, 2016 11:04 AM (c6/9Q)
If it were easy as fishin', you could be a musician
If you could make sounds loud or mellow
Get a second-hand guitar, chances are you'll go far
If you get in with the right bunch of fellows
Song? Band?
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at June 07, 2016 11:04 AM (yG7Ca)
One of the simpler tactics is to lead someone deeper into the weeds by parsing out all of the trivial exceptions to a general statement. It blunts a person's point that way. It's similar to what Sexypig was doing yesterday on the "Trump and the judge" thread when he/she was going on about Italian-American Bar Associations and Irish American Bar Associations and so on.
It is best to just stick to your conclusion and let that person go off on his own blathering on in his sophistry about exceptions and codicils and so forth.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries Billy Kristol DIY Candidate Kits! at June 07, 2016 10:43 AM (hLRSq)
________
Ahhh yes, Sheldon Cooper's "not all objects on earth fall at 9.81 m/s^2" defense. Priceless.
Its funny on a TV show. Its a Trumpian "Sad!" in real life.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 11:04 AM (10hEu)
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What "national identity" are you referring to Kemosabe?
Posted by: MTF, please excuse iphone spelling errors at June 07, 2016 11:04 AM (/m8T6)
Meanwhile, over at polyamory advocacy sexblog The Federalist:
American Conservatives Should Adopt Libertarian Immigration Policy
By Alex Nowrasteh
A Guaranteed Income Would Be Better Than Our Corrupt Welfare System
By John Daniel Davidson
A Contestant Ate A Raw Potato On "The Bachelorette" And It Was Gross
By Bre Payton
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 07, 2016 11:04 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2016 10:59 AM (wCx1p)
Of course not. That will the job of another highly paid .gov functionary.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 11:02 AM (6TLl6)
A highly trusted employee. I don't think you guys have the security clearance.
But I have several openings for food taster!
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 11:04 AM (7lVbc)
-- Emperor Palpitate the Skeevy, Lord of the Italicans
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2016 11:03 AM (wCx1p)
***
Krebs, it's only cause your a Hordesman in good standing that you can call me 'skeevy'.....
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 11:04 AM (lutOX)
Posted by: ajmojo at June 07, 2016 11:04 AM (1H9ox)
Posted by: Chupacabra at June 07, 2016 11:05 AM (F26eZ)
No no it is more Nuanced...this is Jeff Nuance here.
If the student has been cheating for the entire year he gets a pass...
if it is the first time he gets ejected.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 11:05 AM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at June 07, 2016 11:05 AM (yG7Ca)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 07, 2016 11:05 AM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Accidental immigrant at June 07, 2016 11:05 AM (IqV8l)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 11:06 AM (LwB8i)
If the student has been cheating for the entire year he gets a pass...
if it is the first time he gets ejected.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 11:05 AM (g8Hfr)
or if the student needs a grade so he can get a diploma to buy diapers for his poor little sister
Posted by: runner at June 07, 2016 11:06 AM (c6/9Q)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 07, 2016 11:02 AM (IqV8l)
You stab the right one there
club the left one there
and turn it all about
When they jump of the ledge
you know you got the edge
and that's what it's all about!
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at June 07, 2016 11:06 AM (u0lmX)
Or maybe it's that you just can't reason logically (outside chemistry).
For the billionth time, enforcement of immigration law used to be done routinely, whenever there was contact with the state, or the legal system, or aspects of the private economy that are highly regulated.
Open a checking account. Get pulled over for speeding. Register your kids for local school. Apply for a job. On, and on, and on.
And, for known concentrations of illegals, like certain industries, of course targeted enforcement actions. It only takes a few.
For the billionth time, educate yourself about what happened in just a few months in AZ after they passed an enforcement-enhancement law.
Just changing the body english of the state/State on this matter produces instant, dramatic results. Of course.
Oh - and for the other bizarre AOSHQ myth on a related matter - that border barriers don't work. Yes they do. Of course they do. And of course - obviously - they are a key part of a comprehensive restoration of rule of law. Leaving aside entirely the huge security issue they address.
But - enough. It's all a lost cause, America is hopelessly crippled by what can only be called the stupidity of the bulk of its citizens. And their descent into infantile moral narcissism.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2016 11:06 AM (QDnY+)
283 Paplatine, you didn't answer my question.
Are you in favor of doing everything necessary to track down every single last speeder?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:55 AM (uAvJJ)
Yes. You now in favor of finding every wetback and tossing their ass out? If not, sod off.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 10:56 AM (LwB8i)
Ha. I really doubt that you are.
But if you are, then this would require either one of two things, or probably both actually:
1. gigantic tax increases to pay for all of the new police officers to track down all of the speeders. All of those police officers will wind up hassling people who aren't doing anything terribly wrong, except going 66 mph in a 65 mph zone, and will lead to all sorts of other interactions with police, which will inevitably erode further our search-and-seizure protections of the fourth amendment.
2. mandates that the government imposes on *law-abiding* citizens to prove that we *aren't* one of those speeders. Similar to the breathalyzer devices that are now mandated to be placed on the cars of repeat drunk drivers. Because the government really can't catch every last criminal, the government will instead force everyone to obey by limiting their liberties in other ways. They do this sort of thing now with gun laws, force everyone to prove they *aren't* criminals instead of the government proving that a potential buyer *is* a criminal.
And I am jealous enough of my own liberties that I don't want to see any more of them eroded in the name of tracking down a problem that is, in the grand scheme of things, not all that serious.
I see the issue analogously when it comes to illegal immigration. Of course we increase border security and of course we crack down on visa overstays and of course we do a better job of enforcing the law. But going to extended lengths in order to track down every last one is just foolish and counterproductive. We wouldn't do that for any other law on the books, not even the most heinous ones. We have unsolved murders and rapes on the books you know.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:06 AM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2016 11:07 AM (wCx1p)
It's like that time I accidentally cheated on my wife...
sorry honey she slipped in the shower and fell on little Sven...
Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 11:07 AM (g8Hfr)
before we call it solved?
How many worlds must the white man destroy
before we call for a halt?
The answer my friends is blowin in the wind
Posted by: Wu Chu, King of Chu at June 07, 2016 11:07 AM (xxTQ3)
Lone Ranger: That's amazing! Can you hear them through the ground?
Tonto: no, Kemosabe. ear stuck to ground.
Posted by: Roy at June 07, 2016 11:07 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 11:08 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at June 07, 2016 11:04 AM (yG7Ca)
JackStraw had it first, but just to show how great I am, it's Takin' Care of Business by Bachman Turner Overdrive.
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 07, 2016 11:08 AM (OxsRO)
BTO shouldve named themselves Buns & Pickles.
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at June 07, 2016 11:08 AM (yG7Ca)
If the student has been cheating for the entire year he gets a pass...
if it is the first time he gets ejected.
Posted by: sven10077
Does he get to go classroom to classroom to ferret out cheaters, or just when he catches them in his?
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 11:08 AM (LwB8i)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 07, 2016 11:09 AM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 07, 2016 11:09 AM (Nwg0u)
But I have several openings for food taster!
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 11:04 AM (7lVbc)
Who's doing the cooking???
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 11:09 AM (6TLl6)
Posted by: Serenity Now! at June 07, 2016 11:09 AM (BDZWU)
You'll never eliminate illegal immigration, particularly in a nation with borders as huge as the USA. But the current situation is insanely out of control and must be dialed back. Immigration and citizenship laws exist for good reasons, and only internationalist jackwagons think otherwise. They need to be enforced for orderly structure of culture and society.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 07, 2016 11:09 AM (39g3+)
No he puts on a blindfold and precludes any other teacher from looking...
except for the Sanctuary Classrooms where the Perfesser fills out the tests for the students.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 11:10 AM (g8Hfr)
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Earworm status: Torture Level.
Bastard.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 07, 2016 11:10 AM (kY7tC)
Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2016 11:10 AM (B48dK)
Too young to give consent to being smuggled across.
Personally I think they should either be returned to their families, or if that is impossible, try to arrange for adoption ( sad in the latter case because our system is rampant with child abuse)
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 11:10 AM (7lVbc)
"Palpitate", not "Palpatine", m'lord
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2016 11:07 AM (wCx1p)
***
It is a verb, my young apprentice, and a damned fine one, too.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 11:10 AM (lutOX)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 07, 2016 11:09 AM (LA7Cm)
It exists. Really. She submitted a crab dip recipe for it.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2016 11:10 AM (wCx1p)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 07, 2016 11:10 AM (NOIQH)
Those two are the Go Go Gophers incognito.
Posted by: Fritz at June 07, 2016 11:11 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: runner at June 07, 2016 11:11 AM (c6/9Q)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 07, 2016 11:11 AM (LA7Cm)
So I'm not going to favor deporting anyone in actuality and when questioned I'll find some libertarian economic policy for justifying not deporting that person while strongly stating that I am in favor of deportation in general.
Is that so hard to understand? Its just good politics.
Posted by: chemjeph at June 07, 2016 11:11 AM (10hEu)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 11:09 AM (6TLl6)
State secret.
Even asking gets you on the watch list.
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 11:11 AM (7lVbc)
raised by GOPe and the left: "Mass deportations! Mass deportations!"
Look, Trump used the phrase "deportation force". Not "GOPe" and not "the left".
He didn't clarify what he meant. Those favorable to him will interpret his phrase charitably. Those hostile to him will interpret his phrase not-so-charitably. Perhaps it would have been wise to nominate someone who wasn't so careless with his words. But I digress...
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:11 AM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: donna at June 07, 2016 11:11 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2016 11:10 AM (wCx1p)
The only reason the Indians in this picture are driving the buffalo off the cliff is because the crab harvest was poor that year.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at June 07, 2016 11:12 AM (u0lmX)
Don't try to horn into the dude's act. We'll be drowning in puns.
Now hoof it outta here.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 10:40 AM (C9pBZ)
Be a deer and stop with the buffalo puns.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 07, 2016 11:12 AM (0cMkb)
.... you're standing on my lawn.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 07, 2016 11:12 AM (kY7tC)
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 11:12 AM (7lVbc)
Posted by: Serenity Now! at June 07, 2016 11:12 AM (BDZWU)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 11:12 AM (6TLl6)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 07, 2016 11:12 AM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at June 07, 2016 11:12 AM (yG7Ca)
Posted by: chemjeph at June 07, 2016 11:11 AM (10hEu)
Oh look, the ankle-biter thinks he made a funny.
That isn't what I claimed but thanks for the amusing words you put in my mouth.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:13 AM (uAvJJ)
Eliminate welfare benefits for illegals.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 11:13 AM (LwB8i)
Even asking gets you on the watch list.
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 11:11 AM (7lVbc)
I WAS HACKED!
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 11:13 AM (6TLl6)
Okay. I snorted.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 07, 2016 11:09 AM (LA7Cm)
$29.95 Amazon, get it whiles it hot, especially after she is the VP.
Posted by: Colin at June 07, 2016 11:13 AM (fxoKC)
So, this painting is how Indianans get rid of syphilis?
Well, that sure answers a lot of questions.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 07, 2016 11:13 AM (0cMkb)
We have unsolved murders and rapes on the books you know.
I'll pick "what every arrestee says" for $200, Alex
Posted by: Jeopardy contestant at June 07, 2016 11:13 AM (IqV8l)
Fascinating.
No, really. What has to go on in one's head to believe that all actions have equal impact?
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 11:13 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 07, 2016 11:14 AM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: donna at June 07, 2016 11:14 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at June 07, 2016 11:12 AM (yG7Ca)
That recipe was originally stolen from my People!
Posted by: Fauxcahontas at June 07, 2016 11:14 AM (7lVbc)
Posted by: General Zod at June 07, 2016 11:14 AM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2016 11:14 AM (B48dK)
Old Indian saying: "Women are like Buffalo. There's always a fatter one over the next hill."
Posted by: Meremortal, Someone's French sucks at June 07, 2016 11:15 AM (3myMJ)
Buffalo meat is expensive.
Deer nuts are cheaper.
They are always under a buck.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 11:15 AM (LwB8i)
Posted by: runner at June 07, 2016 11:15 AM (c6/9Q)
sanctuary cities, laws preventing cops from finding out about legal
status, enforcing existing immigration laws, and cracking down on
businesses hiring illegals would take care of the bulk of the problem.
It would be especially easy in states where they issue drivers licenses to illegals.
But then, that's exactly why we're in this mess...
Posted by: Lizzy at June 07, 2016 11:15 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: naturalfake"
And so the thread tails off ... into the sunset.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 11:15 AM (C9pBZ)
That is why I don't bother with the federalist. It's a dem site pretending to be Conservative leaning.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at June 07, 2016 11:16 AM (+aCe4)
Don't be absurd.
But when a person is speeding, and is caught in the act, surely, something ought to be done?
But this is all foolishness.
Ask yourself what is the purpose of speed limit laws, and what is
the purpose of immigration laws? The answers to those are the key to
the whole matter, and show the two simply are not comparable as
categories of legislation.
Of course the two have different purposes, but the point of my raising the analogy is to illustrate the absurdity of trying to "enforce the law" without any considerations to cost or benefits. We don't even do that for the most serious criminal acts like murder and rape.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:16 AM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2016 11:10 AM (wCx1p)
Plagiarized recipes at that.
Two of the possibly plagiarized recipes, said in the Pow Wow Chow cookbook to have been passed down through generations of Oklahoma Native American members of the Cherokee tribe, are described in a NewYork Times News Service story as originating at Le Pavilion, a fabulously expensive French restaurant in Manhattan. The dishes were said to be particular favorites of the Duke and Duchess of Windsor and Cole Porter.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 11:16 AM (6TLl6)
Posted by: Serenity Now! at June 07, 2016 11:16 AM (BDZWU)
Posted by: runner at June 07, 2016 11:15 AM (c6/9Q)
Pretty much the policy at the ivy league now
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 11:16 AM (7lVbc)
Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2016 11:17 AM (B48dK)
Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2016 11:14 AM (B48dK)
_________
Remember when us GOPers condemned the Joe Wilson for saying Obama was telling a lie during the SOTU about benefits to illegals because it was "rude" "inappropriate"
Fun times
Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 11:17 AM (10hEu)
arguing = mental masturbation.
Many a good thread has been splooged on
by one person in particular.
Posted by: seamrog at June 07, 2016 11:17 AM (QR7LV)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:06 AM (uAvJJ)
***
But we don't increase border security, we don't crack down on visa overstays, and we don't enforce the existing laws.
Given we don't do what the law already requires, on what possible basis do you posit the fever-dream of going 'to extended lengths' to track down every last one?
But I think I get it. Personal liberty is a value, and a very great one. Of course, your chosen method - in this instance - of guarding your liberty has the disadvantage of permitting the fundamental transformation of the polity the traditions of which protected it by the simple expedient of allowing persons not raised in those traditions to become - nationally - a substantial plurality - and, in many areas of high immigration of all types - very nearly a political majority.
But I'm sure that traditions and culture have very little to do with politics, so no worries. And if CATO are wrong, well, we won't know it for two generations, four, tops.
So there's that.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 11:17 AM (lutOX)
Posted by: naturalfake"
And so the thread tails off ... into the sunset.
༶ Happy trails to you
Until we meet again
Happy trails to you.......
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 11:17 AM (LwB8i)
Posted by: fixerupper at June 07, 2016 11:17 AM (kY7tC)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 07, 2016 11:17 AM (/tuJf)
(NSFW language)
https://youtu.be/swuNEO2XYQg
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 07, 2016 11:17 AM (39g3+)
So there's no cost to illegal immigration?
Good to know. I'm sure Mexico will be glad to know that tidbit...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 11:17 AM (C9pBZ)
The dishes were said to be particular favorites of the Duke and Duchess of Windsor and Cole Porter.
All of whom were Cherokees in as good a standing as Fauxcahontas.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2016 11:18 AM (wCx1p)
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 11:16 AM (7lVbc)
amnesty shills; coincidence ?
Posted by: runner at June 07, 2016 11:18 AM (c6/9Q)
That is why I don't bother with the federalist. It's a dem site pretending to be Conservative leaning.
Which is why Gabriel Malor was a perfect fit,
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at June 07, 2016 11:18 AM (yG7Ca)
Thank you. Your post is concise, compelling.
You really laid it out where anybody, if they care to understand at all( excludes the poster chemjeff) , can understand--even if they don't agree entirely, they can understand.
Good job.
Thanks.
Posted by: Malignantly aggrieved and economically useless at June 07, 2016 11:19 AM (3ZttN)
chemjeff is not in favor of cheating on exams, but he won't do fail an
actual person caught cheating on an exam...so A's for everyone !
Posted by: runner at June 07, 2016 11:15 AM (c6/9Q)
Umm, not what I claimed.
Look, if an illegal is caught doing something else that is a criminal act, of course that person should be deported, or punished for the crime, or both. I didn't think this was seriously in dispute. I certainly don't think everyone should get citizenship.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:19 AM (uAvJJ)
Shh. Don't let 'em in on our little secret.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 11:19 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:16 AM (uAvJJ)
***
True. And the only absurdity that I've encountered has been your fever-dream of mass-deportations and deportation forces going door to door.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 11:19 AM (lutOX)
Posted by: Serenity Now! at June 07, 2016 11:16 AM (BDZWU)
_________
He made a joke about #MadameStrepThroat that the mods declared to have crossed the line into a threat
Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 11:19 AM (10hEu)
Posted by: Naked Yoko OhNo at June 07, 2016 11:19 AM (gwG9s)
Posted by: Frank Reynolds at June 07, 2016 11:19 AM (BDZWU)
Posted by: Fritz at June 07, 2016 11:19 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 07, 2016 11:20 AM (WTSFk)
***
I see you have never had any dealing with the IRS.
Posted by: Infidel at June 07, 2016 11:20 AM (PPaJi)
He should have just asked when a patriot would do their duty ala Brad Thor...
Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 11:20 AM (g8Hfr)
ChemJeff you're a killjoy who is overly impressed with your own smarts. This seems to be your personal Quixote type quest and you are driving everyone else insane in annoyance at you.
I'm done. I no longer care about you and your windmills. Go carbonize a whole buffalo, I'm done making jokes with you.
And now that I've gotten this off my chest, I got writing to do.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 11:20 AM (jFXTk)
It's what you wrote. Sorry if we're not up to your extra sensory perception levels of divining meanings and interpretations.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 11:20 AM (C9pBZ)
Look, if an illegal is caught doing something else that is a criminal act, of course that person should be deported, or punished for the crime, or both. I didn't think this was seriously in dispute. I certainly don't think everyone should get citizenship.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:19 AM (uAvJJ)
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Why not?
If the only crimes they've committed - aside from residing and working illegally in the states - why not make them all citizens?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 11:21 AM (lutOX)
Yeah, but you'd do it for Randolph Scott.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 07, 2016 11:21 AM (LA7Cm)
wapiti the fool - mr. t
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 07, 2016 11:20 AM (WTSFk)
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Kudos!
Posted by: mustbequantum at June 07, 2016 11:21 AM (MIKMs)
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 11:21 AM (7lVbc)
Good to know. I'm sure Mexico will be glad to know that tidbit...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 11:17 AM (C9pBZ)
There is a cost to illegal immigration.
What cost to your liberties are you willing to sustain in order to track down every single illegal?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:21 AM (uAvJJ)
Don't really have to track them down. Do what they do with warrants. Caught? Go directly to deportation center. Gone next day.
Someone with a warrant goes directly to jail. They don't get to go home and get their affairs in order. Too bad, so sad.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 11:21 AM (LwB8i)
Thank you. Your post is concise, compelling.
You really laid it out where anybody, if they care to understand at all( excludes the poster chemjeff) , can understand--even if they don't agree entirely, they can understand.
Good job.
Thanks.
Posted by: Malignantly aggrieved and economically useless at June 07, 2016 11:19 AM (3ZttN)
_____________
Thanks for pointing that comment out. I missed it
Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 11:21 AM (10hEu)
Ohh, buffalo jerky.
Same here, place is getting a bit, well, gamey. BBL.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 11:22 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 07, 2016 11:20 AM (C9pBZ)
It isn't what I wrote. I never said that everyone should get citizenship or that no one should get deported.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:22 AM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: Clark Griswold at June 07, 2016 11:23 AM (9eYoy)
Posted by: Frank Reynolds at June 07, 2016 11:19 AM (BDZWU)
No. No, we are Chemical Toilet!
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 11:24 AM (6TLl6)
fever-dream of mass-deportations and deportation forces going door to
door.
You should ask Trump what he means by "deportation force".
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:24 AM (uAvJJ)
There used to be a bounty the INS would pay for info leading to a deportation.
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 11:24 AM (7lVbc)
Is that guy some kind of savior, or what. If he only were clean cut and didn't speak with that negro dialect.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 07, 2016 11:24 AM (4ng05)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 07, 2016 11:24 AM (WTSFk)
He should have just asked when a patriot would do their duty ala Brad Thor...
Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 11:20 AM (g8Hfr)
_______
By the sound of things, someone already did their dooty down her throat. And they were dehydrated and a fiber fan.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 11:25 AM (10hEu)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:21 AM (uAvJJ)
***
Again with 'track down every single illegal' stuff......
Howzabout we just deport the felons? Could we at least start with that? 'Cause we're not really doing a very good job at that.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 11:25 AM (lutOX)
Hey The left wants all the jails closed, so that fits and figures considering the source
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2016 11:25 AM (zp+j1)
What disturbs me is elevating immigration law to some higher status above every other law. That we should go to great lengths to track down every illegal when no one would make the same cost/benefit analysis with regards to any other law.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:26 AM (uAvJJ)
Maybe this will help differentiate between illegals and every other lawbreaker in the world.
By his very presence inside the borders of America the illegal is a lawbreaker. That is starkly different than even the most recalcitrant drunk driver, who is not always breaking the law.
So....every single contact with officialdom is an opportunity to identify and deal with the illegal, unlike the other lawbreakers you cite.
It is a canard that it will cost too much.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 07, 2016 11:26 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 11:19 AM (10hEu)
That's a shame. I would've liked to have been able to read that joke. Hope maybe he can come back. He always had interesting things to say.
Posted by: Serenity Now! at June 07, 2016 11:26 AM (BDZWU)
Detain....no legal documentation...buh-bye
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 11:26 AM (6TLl6)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2016 11:26 AM (zp+j1)
The Federal Agencies who were taxed with this enforcement issue.
Like ICE.
They are still being paid.
Now, let's make them do their fucking jobs, already.
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 11:26 AM (I8Bd1)
Is this not what the claim "enforce the law" means? To deport every single illegal?
Howzabout we just deport the felons? Could we at least start with that? 'Cause we're not really doing a very good job at that.
I am 100% in favor of that. I don't think anyone here is arguing against that position.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:26 AM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 07, 2016 11:27 AM (iQIUe)
every illegal when no one would make the same cost/benefit analysis with
regards to any other law.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:26 AM (uAvJJ)
This is entirely wrong. Stop bullshitting.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 07, 2016 11:27 AM (Zu3d9)
Umm, not what I claimed.
Look, if an illegal is
caught doing something else that is a criminal act, of course that
person should be deported, or punished for the crime, or both. I didn't
think this was seriously in dispute. I certainly don't think everyone
should get citizenship.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:19 AM (uAvJJ)
according to chemjeff, not everyone who cheats should get an "A", some who get caught should fail....but it all depends
Posted by: runner at June 07, 2016 11:27 AM (c6/9Q)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:24 AM (uAvJJ)
***
I imagine he means - as I said earlier - Immigration agents. You know, the 'forces' who are supposed to do deportations.
But, hey, if it feeds the fantasy of jack-booted alt-righters rounding up fifth generation Spaniards and putting them on cattle-cars for Juarez, who am I to rain on your parade?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 11:27 AM (lutOX)
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at June 07, 2016 11:27 AM (Eyx+b)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:26 AM (uAvJJ)
***
But are you voting for it?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 11:28 AM (lutOX)
Posted by: Colin at June 07, 2016 11:13 AM (fxoKC)
Holy crap, it actually exists. What great book thread material.
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 07, 2016 11:28 AM (OxsRO)
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 11:26 AM (I8Bd1)
My guess is that for most of them we wouldn't have to "make" them, rather we would simply just let them do what they are trained to do.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 07, 2016 11:28 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:24 AM (uAvJJ)
***
You should ask Hillary what She means by"office of Immigrants affairs."
Posted by: donna at June 07, 2016 11:28 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: IRON MAIDEN at June 07, 2016 11:29 AM (I8Bd1)
Could ask Hillary. It was her hubby who had his AG send out the troops to capture that dangerous Elian Gonzalez so she should know.
Seriously, this is getting silly. It's called illegal immigration because it's, wait for it, illegal. No amount of time magically makes it not illegal.
We don't need shock troops going door to door to root out every illegal. There are numerous steps that could be made like making people show their birth certificates for enrolling in schools, getting jobs, etc. as well as a host of other things that could be done to make life here exceedingly difficult for any illegal to be in the country.
Would you get all of them? Probably not. But it would be a monstrous step in the right direction. Nobody is allowed to be in Mexico or other countries illegally, what possible logic could you be using to justify any of them being here illegally regardless of how long they have been here?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 07, 2016 11:29 AM (/tuJf)
It DOES depend, yes. As a practical matter some cheaters in class do get away with it. Instructors could go to great lengths to try to prevent every single last bit of cheating, but would the cost be worth the benefit?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:29 AM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: concrete girl at June 07, 2016 11:29 AM (ceWrl)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:29 AM (uAvJJ)
Or more passive-aggression?
Posted by: andycanuck at June 07, 2016 11:29 AM (PLnZs)
Weasel Zippers
Syria and Iraq no longer really exist as sovereign countries and it happened under Fredo's Watch.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2016 11:29 AM (zp+j1)
Posted by: Operation Dumbo Drop at June 07, 2016 10:00 AM (wx6iv)
Don't forget, Chief 4 Putt EO the Department of the Interior to permit Native Americans to kill bald eagles because of needing their feathers for tourist reenactments, or some such thing.
If you or I were to kill one, we would get to spend some time in the grey bar hotel.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 07, 2016 11:30 AM (wNbGM)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 11:24 AM (6TLl6)
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Off Sunny sock. I was hoping someone would get the reference.
Posted by: Serenity Now! at June 07, 2016 11:30 AM (BDZWU)
***
The law does not require, in the case of enforcement of immigration, mass round-ups and door-to-door and tracking down every single offender.
It does require a reasonable effort to identify and apprehend offenders - which we're not making now - and carrying out the appropriate sanctions -which we're not doing now.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 11:30 AM (lutOX)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2016 11:31 AM (zp+j1)
Posted by: Roy at June 07, 2016 11:31 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Gary's Johnson at June 07, 2016 11:31 AM (IqV8l)
Posted by: rhomboid
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I find such remarks inflammatory.
Posted by: NPR at June 07, 2016 11:31 AM (9mTYi)
cheaters in class do get away with it. Instructors could go to great
lengths to try to prevent every single last bit of cheating, but would
the cost be worth the benefit?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:29 AM (uAvJJ)
well, it is better that not preventing or doing anything about it, no ?
Posted by: runner at June 07, 2016 11:31 AM (c6/9Q)
That's a shame. I would've liked to have been able to read that joke. Hope maybe he can come back. He always had interesting things to say.
Posted by: Serenity Now! at June 07, 2016 11:26 AM (BDZWU)
________
It wasn't particularly funny. It was one of those things said out of frustration.
Although I would have let it slide just b/c I liked GoK, I totally get why they banned him for the comment.
If the #TrumpTrain gets derailed, then #Ready4Swillary is going to come down HARD on any and all political speech against her. She's the one that's truly thin skinned.
That's why Ace is so high strung about this election. It could literally take his income stream off the table. I'd be very very concerned too.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 11:31 AM (10hEu)
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at June 07, 2016 11:32 AM (/77HP)
CBD well immigration seems to be the top issue this election season, at least on the right, so it does seem like some are more insulted to violations of immigration law than to violations of other laws.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:32 AM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2016 11:29 AM (zp+j1)
And Hillary's State Department
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 11:32 AM (6TLl6)
Head-Smashed-In-Buffalo-Jump in Alberta is one of the most interesting museums I've been to. It was a lot more than just scaring some cows over a cliff on a whim. The whole tribe was involved and the logistics and planning was impressive.
Posted by: Weirddave at June 07, 2016 11:32 AM (N8hFs)
Im going to link this again becase it's so good and you gus have nothing better to do.
Woman steals camera drone, drone video records her making an ass of herself. What a terrible person she is -- but she describes herself on social media as a person with integrity and cares about her community. She's a Shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEKafiDxhCc
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at June 07, 2016 11:32 AM (yG7Ca)
By his very presence inside the borders of America the illegal is a lawbreaker. That is starkly different than even the most recalcitrant drunk driver, who is not always breaking the law.
They even wrote a song about illegals.
"Every breath he takes,
Every move he makes"
All illegal. Every. Fucking. Time.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 11:32 AM (LwB8i)
/returns to daydreaming about "fishing"
Posted by: Brother Cavil, readying the webcam at June 07, 2016 11:32 AM (9krrF)
well, it is better that not preventing or doing anything about it, no ?
Posted by: runner at June 07, 2016 11:31 AM (c6/9Q)
That is a strawman. No one is arguing in favor of "doing nothing".
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:32 AM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: NPR at June 07, 2016 11:31 AM (9mTYi)
Just click the "safe space" link in the post.
It will help.....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 07, 2016 11:32 AM (Zu3d9)
Weasel Zippers
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Hopefully our drones can convert the remaining 1/3.
Posted by: Roy at June 07, 2016 11:32 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2016 11:33 AM (zp+j1)
one would make the same cost/benefit analysis with regards to any other
law.
Honestly, have you considered how much state and federal money is spent on illegals? Public school for the kids, health care, the grab-bag of entitlements (EBT, welfare, WIC, free school lunches, in-state tuition), the loss of tax revenue (for those who work under the table), etc. In addition there are costs to citizens with things like crimes committed by illegals (Mugging, rape, murder), drug trade's toll on communities (for MS-13, cartel illegals), the financial mess for people whose identities are stolen, people who are in traffic accidents w/uninsured illegals, the lack of revenue to state for various things like building permits, unpaid traffic tickets, etc.. And on and on.
Illegal immigration is *NOT* a victimless crime.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 07, 2016 11:33 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Serenity Now! at June 07, 2016 11:30 AM (BDZWU)
That was a great episode. Dee dating a 'tard, Dennis and his Bowie codpiece, etc...
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 11:34 AM (6TLl6)
If you or I were to kill one, we would get to spend some time in the grey bar hotel.
Posted by: Jen the original
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Wind 'farms' are granted an indulgence. I forget the number, but it is well into the thousands per company.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 07, 2016 11:34 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2016 11:34 AM (zp+j1)
Those who have been in his class longest gets a free pass.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 11:34 AM (LwB8i)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:32 AM (uAvJJ)
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Is it wrong to note high rates of personal and property crimes are strongly correlated with immigrant-density?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 11:34 AM (lutOX)
http://bit.ly/only-part
Posted by: mindful webworker - art schmart at June 07, 2016 11:34 AM (dDUXP)
Posted by: Weirddave
Making a fence and raising livestock in it is also impressive.
Posted by: Dang at June 07, 2016 11:34 AM (/77HP)
If the #TrumpTrain gets derailed, then #Ready4Swillary is going to come down HARD on any and all political speech against her. She's the one that's truly thin skinned.
That's why Ace is so high strung about this election. It could literally take his income stream off the table. I'd be very very concerned too.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 11:31 AM (10hEu)
That's a scary thought. I liked GoK, and will miss him. (If you are lurking, I have some fresh oatmeal/dried cherry and white chocolate cookies cooling in the kitchen!)
But Ace does have a valid fear. I remember when Bubba and his coterie went after Drudge. And he was the moderate one. She who shall not be named will be far, far worse.
Posted by: Moki at June 07, 2016 11:34 AM (ezHMO)
Posted by: Roy at June 07, 2016 11:35 AM (VndSC)
Maybe because unfettered illegal immigration is well on its way to destroying America.
There is no cost/benefit analysis that would find preventing the destruction of our way of life as too expensive.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 07, 2016 11:35 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 11:35 AM (I8Bd1)
Posted by: Roy at June 07, 2016 11:35 AM (VndSC)
Good stuff
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2016 11:35 AM (zp+j1)
Posted by: Infidel at June 07, 2016 11:36 AM (PPaJi)
mass round-ups and door-to-door and tracking down every single offender.
Wait, so "enforce the law" does not really mean "enforce the law"?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:36 AM (uAvJJ)
you make me wanna cry, you make me wanna die
i love you i love you i love you i love you i love you night man
every night you come into my room and pin me down with your strong arms you pin me down and i try to fight you you come inside me you fill me up and i become the night man
Just two men sharing the night
It might seem wrong but it's just right
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That's some gay shit Charlie
http://tinyurl.com/h8vl7d4
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 11:36 AM (6TLl6)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:32 AM (uAvJJ)
you just don't like enforcing the laws, which is doing nothing, or you argue for enforcing immigration laws selectively
Posted by: runner at June 07, 2016 11:36 AM (c6/9Q)
http://bit.ly/redcloud-nightmare
Posted by: mindful webworker - oh give me a home at June 07, 2016 11:37 AM (dDUXP)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:36 AM (uAvJJ)
you actually are printing that in Public?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2016 11:37 AM (zp+j1)
The discussion on cheating and law breaking is enlightening, I think, and to this respect:
Lying, cheating, law breaking - traditional values in general, have been under assault for a pretty long time.
The reasons I think, are myriad, but mostly they are seen to be archaic and rooted in the supernatural instead of originating from the new higher power - man.
I could say a lot more about this, but draw your own conclusions.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 07, 2016 11:37 AM (4ng05)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:32 AM (uAvJJ)
***
But what are you suggesting we do?
I mean, you're saying what we CAN'T do - which, so far as I can tell, no one in a position of any power, real or potential has suggested - and making obtuse cost-benefits analyses around the question of maximal enforcement. Yeah, I get it - no alt-rightist mobs in classy and luxurious uniforms rounding up people and stuffing them onto south-bound cattle cars; you don't want that. No serious person does.
But what the Hell do you want?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 11:38 AM (lutOX)
Posted by: donna at June 07, 2016 11:38 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Fritz at June 07, 2016 11:39 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: donna at June 07, 2016 11:38 AM (O2RFr)
Yes, and guess which role you and I play in that painting.
Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at June 07, 2016 11:39 AM (nIGPZ)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 11:38 AM (lutOX)
he is just a shit stirrer who lives in fantasy land
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2016 11:40 AM (zp+j1)
Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at June 07,
Yup...
Posted by: donna at June 07, 2016 11:40 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at June 07, 2016 11:40 AM (FtrY1)
Posted by: Fritz at June 07, 2016 11:39 AM (UzPAd)\
Thousands of SJW's just went scurrying for the safe spaces.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 07, 2016 11:40 AM (4ng05)
Agreed. It was a seminal episode. The first reference to the eternal battle between the Dayman & The Nightman.
*breaks into song*
The Dayman!
Fighter of the Nightman!
Champion of the Sun!
You're a master of karate and friendship for everyone!
A-AH-A
*claps hands above head*
Posted by: Serenity Now! at June 07, 2016 11:40 AM (BDZWU)
A British four-year-old dubbed “Jihadi Junior, who has frequently appeared in Islamic State propaganda videos, has been smuggled from Syria into Sweden by his mother for an operation, reports suggest.
Isa';s London-born mother Grace, 24, is thought to have taken her son from Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) stronghold Raqqa to Sweden after suffering illness for some months.
Grace, who renamed herself Khadijah after leaving her home in Lewisham, southeast London, traveled to the Middle East with her son in 2012.
The Sun newspaper says it is possible the pair passed through nine countries to reach Europe, yet were not challenged on the 2,000 mile (3,000km) trip or in hospital.
Sources told the newspaper Grace chose Sweden because she was married to a Swede, Abu Bakr, after joining the terrorists. He has since died fighting
https://goo.gl/NYgoux
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No border checks...
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 07, 2016 11:41 AM (iQIUe)
FU OpenBlogger for that slice of auditory Hell. I need ear AND eye bleach now.
Posted by: jim at June 07, 2016 11:41 AM (TddCJ)
We drove to Pennsylvania last month and there were confederate flags all along the route up and a totally different on the way back. There were no trigger warnings at all!!!
The funny thing was that there were way more flags the further north we went and less the further south.
Posted by: lindafell de spair at June 07, 2016 11:41 AM (xVgrA)
Mexico does with THEIR southern border.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 11:41 AM (LwB8i)
There is no cost/benefit analysis that would find preventing the destruction of our way of life as too expensive.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
They are a net positive in all respects.
Posted by: Chamber of Commerce at June 07, 2016 11:41 AM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Soona at June 07, 2016 11:42 AM (Fmupd)
The director of the excavation, Avraham Tendler, said "The cache may have belonged to a Jew who hid
his money in the hope of coming back to collect it, but he was unlucky and never did return."
The coins from approximately 126 B.C.E. were discovered in April hidden in a rock crevice in an agricultural estate that was discovered during an excavation being carried out before construction of a new neighborhood began.
But according to the Palis, Jews never lived there? Go figure
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2016 11:42 AM (zp+j1)
Posted by: runner at June 07, 2016 11:42 AM (c6/9Q)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:36 AM (uAvJJ)
you actually are printing that in Public?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2016 11:37 AM (zp+j1)
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Yeah, i think he did.
He forgot that the law has established mechanism and protections, that the police and the courts - at least in this country, and for at least the next two generations - tend to be hemmed in by the law itself.
It's all or nothing folks - either we arrest and deport every illegal alien by smashing down every door in the country ,either we use choppers and drones and interceptors to interdict every last person driving 26 in a 25 mph zone, or we're not enforcing the law.
And since maximal enforcement is absurd and dangerous, we can see why minimal enforcement is safer, and non-enforcement safest altogether.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 11:43 AM (lutOX)
It can work all sorts of ways
Posted by: Evi L. Bloggerlady at June 07, 2016 11:43 AM (4kTo2)
Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2016 11:43 AM (B48dK)
Although I would have let it slide just b/c I liked GoK, I totally get why they banned him for the comment.
If the #TrumpTrain gets derailed, then #Ready4Swillary is going to come down HARD on any and all political speech against her. She's the one that's truly thin skinned.
That's why Ace is so high strung about this election. It could literally take his income stream off the table. I'd be very very concerned too.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 11:31 AM (10hEu)
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I still would have liked to read it. But yeah, I think Ace's concern is probably justified. If HRC is elected the first amendment is going to just have an asterisk next to it.
Posted by: Serenity Now! at June 07, 2016 11:43 AM (BDZWU)
Here's the story: http://tinyurl.com/hnbef9a
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at June 07, 2016 11:43 AM (yG7Ca)
That's a scary thought. I liked GoK, and will miss him. (If you are lurking, I have some fresh oatmeal/dried cherry and white chocolate cookies cooling in the kitchen!)
But Ace does have a valid fear. I remember when Bubba and his coterie went after Drudge. And he was the moderate one. She who shall not be named will be far, far worse.
Posted by: Moki at June 07, 2016 11:34 AM (ezHMO)
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Its just the price we have to pay in order to stop this icky Trump character.
Posted by: NRO, GOPe, Ben Shapiro & #NeverTrump at June 07, 2016 11:43 AM (10hEu)
Bubba and his coterie went after Drudge. And he was the moderate one.
She who shall not be named will be far, far worse. Posted by: Moki at June 07, 2016 11:34 AM (ezHMO)
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We also know how the DTs will go after dissenters. I see either one as a real fear for constitutional free speech.
Posted by: mustbequantum at June 07, 2016 11:43 AM (MIKMs)
Posted by: Evi L. Bloggerlady at June 07, 2016 11:44 AM (4kTo2)
But according to the Palis, Jews never lived there? Go figure
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2016 11:42 AM (zp+j1)
The likeness of Arafat's great uncle were clearly stamped on some of the coins together with the words, "Palestine is for Palestinians".
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 07, 2016 11:45 AM (4ng05)
because it's, wait for it, illegal. No amount of time magically makes it
not illegal.
Well, yes and no.
Suppose a guy robs a convenience store. Definite crime. But that is the only crime he ever commits, and after that, he reforms his ways and no longer does anything criminal. Years and years go by and he is a productive member of society now. If the police later on finally catch him and want to throw him in jail, as a principled matter that is the correct thing to do, but as a practical matter, is that really the *best* use of scarce resources?
We don't need shock troops going door to door to root out every
illegal. There are numerous steps that could be made like making people
show their birth certificates for enrolling in schools, getting jobs,
etc. as well as a host of other things that could be done to make life
here exceedingly difficult for any illegal to be in the country.
I am fine with all of that, to the extent that it does not unduly burden actual citizens with onerous mandates. That is one of the fears I have with the whole illegal immigration, that if the Trumpist viewpoint gets its way, that the government will decide to crack down on illegal immigration *not necessarily* by making life more difficult for illegals, but by making life more difficult for *the rest of us*. Because, let's be honest, it is cheaper to just issue a mandate and expect everyone else to obey, than it is to hire and train new police officers to enforce the law.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:45 AM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: tonyc at June 07, 2016 11:46 AM (gNNtL)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 11:46 AM (LwB8i)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2016 11:46 AM (zp+j1)
We're gonna need somebody to talk to in the camps.....
There's not a member of the Horde I wouldn't buy a drink for.
Just not all of you, all at once...... thirsty crowd.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 11:46 AM (lutOX)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 11:47 AM (qCMvj)
Posted by: donna at June 07, 2016 11:47 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Yo! at June 07, 2016 11:48 AM (GwIKd)
Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2016 11:43 AM (B48dK)
Herdy blerdy allahu ackbar bork bork bork.
Posted by: The Swedish Chef Suicide Bomber at June 07, 2016 11:49 AM (nIGPZ)
We're gonna need somebody to talk to in the camps.....
There's not a member of the Horde I wouldn't buy a drink for.
Just not all of you, all at once...... thirsty crowd.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 11:46 AM (lutOX)
Then your a better man that me, because in the "camps" there will be retribution for rats, spies, and Capos.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2016 11:49 AM (zp+j1)
Posted by: Yo! at June 07, 2016 11:49 AM (GwIKd)
You don't HAVE to click on the Links.
Posted by: London Boys at June 07, 2016 11:50 AM (I8Bd1)
alien by smashing down every door in the country ,either we use choppers
and drones and interceptors to interdict every last person driving 26
in a 25 mph zone, or we're not enforcing the law.
But on a *principled* matter, that statement is actually correct. Don't you see that?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:50 AM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 11:50 AM (7lVbc)
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Answer: All of them because they're illegal. The very fact that you entered this country illegally makes you a criminal import. Here, have some welfare and a voter ballot.
Posted by: CrustyB at June 07, 2016 11:51 AM (GvSpB)
No, the answer is just no. If you enter this country illegally there is no statute of limitations that makes you legal. You will always be illegal.
We all know that we are a country in serious trouble. Fiscally, morally, culturally, in just about ever way. One of the most obvious ways this shows is the attempt by many to just ignore laws they don't like. This is a recipe for disaster.
>>Suppose a guy robs a convenience store. Definite crime. But that is the only crime he ever commits, and after that, he reforms his ways and no longer does anything criminal. Years and years go by and he is a productive member of society now. If the police later on finally catch him and want to throw him in jail, as a principled matter that is the correct thing to do, but as a practical matter, is that really the *best* use of scarce resources?
This example has absolutely nothing to do with illegal immigration. If you are here illegally and you are caught you should be deported and I do not care how long you've been here or where you came from. The cost of not enforcing immigration laws far outweigh the costs of obeying the law, fiscally, morally and culturally.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 07, 2016 11:51 AM (/tuJf)
How are we supposed to play anything in Open 'A' without a capo?
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 11:51 AM (I8Bd1)
She is also famour for shaking up with Obie and having a loonie father.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 07, 2016 11:51 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2016 11:49 AM (zp+j1)
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Who said there wouldn't be?
The old number six.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 11:51 AM (lutOX)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 07, 2016 11:52 AM (p2X2f)
Facebook Suppressing Pro-Gun Postings, Say Gun Rights Advocates
yea, get off of Facebook
breitbart
We have over 700,000 likes on our Facebook page and tremendous reader response to our material, said Concealed Nation publisher Brandon Curtis. We didn't change a thing about the way we post [ but ] in February our Facebook traffic fell off a cliff, he said. It sank by nearly 50 percent in that first month.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 11:52 AM (qCMvj)
We also know how the DTs will go after dissenters. I see either one as a real fear for constitutional free speech.
Posted by: mustbequantum at June 07, 2016 11:43 AM (MIKMs)
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Trump does not have a history of ---letting people die--- when it is politically expedient *cough* bengazi *cough*
He is not widely known to be a violent drunk who threatens and physically assaults the help *cough* Bill & secret service *cough*
In fact Trump doesn't drink and his long time associates and ex-wives speak very highly of him.
Oh, and Trump hasn't literally enabled rapists.
Don't kid yourself bruh.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 11:52 AM (10hEu)
Common Trump technique.
Once President, Trump can do anything all the groups he is courting will let him.
BJC did Triangulation. DJT will do crowd control.
Posted by: Ok at June 07, 2016 11:52 AM (j2xmV)
Posted by: lonnie franklin jr. at June 07, 2016 11:52 AM (PLnZs)
They start out 35% Dem, 44% independent, 16% Rep.
They end up 37% Dem, 33% independent, 28% Rep.
Basically, the Republicans pick up about 11% from independents. Notice though we're still losing and it takes 80 years to get there.
Maybe we'll make it up in volume.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at June 07, 2016 11:53 AM (Vc0/v)
Posted by: chemjeff
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In most states, possession of illegal drugs is, well, illegal. The laws are enforced. The door-to-door searches, not so much.
A person found to be in possession of such are prosecuted. A person found to be illegal should be the same deal. Simple.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 07, 2016 11:53 AM (9mTYi)
We have speed limits in this country, but of course, they are rarely enforced strictly.
Do you favor "enforcing the speed limit laws"? Doing what is necessary to crack down every last person who goes 1 mph over the speed limit? Because if you don't, you are opposed to the rule of law, you know....
Perhaps the costs might outweigh the benefits in this particular case?
If you are not in favor of tracking down every last speeder, would that make you opposed to the rule of law?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:51 AM (uAvJJ)
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I'm not opposed to enforcing speed limits. I realize it's not feasible to pull over everyone who speeds. But that's not the same as saying I'm totes cool with letting people drive 90 in a 50 zone and looking the other way when it happens, which is your position.
Now with speeding, the only way to catch speeders is put a cop with a radar gun on the highway. So by its very nature, unless we hire 10M cops to do nothing but pull people over, people will get away with speeding.
However, with illegals you don't need 10M USCIS cops going after illegals. All you have to do is make it really, really, really hard for an illegal to live here. That means, no licenses, no mortgage, no ability to rent an apartment, etc. You don't need to deport 30M people. They will deport themselves when living her becomes a total pain in the ass.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 11:53 AM (0LHZx)
But on a *principled* matter, that statement is actually correct. Don't you see that?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:50 AM (uAvJJ)
Oh for chrissakes. That's like saying either we catch and convict every single thief, rapist and murderer in the country or we're not enforcing the law. We can't get them all, so why bother!
Anna Puma is correct, chemjeff. You've become an irritating bore, a threadkiller.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at June 07, 2016 11:54 AM (u0lmX)
Repeating my plug for mewe as an alternative FB
Lots of gun groups there
If you want to look me up there search for my group under Books & Book Clubs (it will be near the bottom of the list)
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 11:54 AM (7lVbc)
a wall, e-verify, massive fines for employers hiring without
verification, close sanctuary cities, no "path to citizenship" and no
benefits for illegals; problem solved
Posted by: runner at June 07, 2016 11:42 AM (c6/9Q)
Okay let's consider these.
A Wall - I am only lukewarm about the wall. I think it would be more of a cronyist public works boondoggle than anything effective at stopping illegal immigration, especially since the biggest single source of illegal immigration is visa overstays, not by sneaking over the border.
E-Verify and Massive fines for employers hiring without verification - this is essentially an unfunded mandate placed on every single employer. Why should private businesses be the enforcement arm of the state?
Close sanctuary cities - I agree
no "path to citizenship" and no
benefits for illegals - I agree with the no benefits to illegals. I would be fine with a "path to citizenship" for a small subset of illegals once a lot of other conditions have been met first, including greater verifiable border security, but not until the.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:56 AM (uAvJJ)
I know my odds of getting pulled over are pretty low. But still I won't drive 90 in a 50, because I know IF I do het pulled over, I'll be in a world of hurt. I'll have a huge fine, maybe even jail time for reckless driving going that far over the limit.
But for illegals, it's basically, get pulled over going 90, spend 5 mins with the trooper who then says, please don't do this again, and lets you go. There is virtually no penalty for being here illegally and so, there is no disincentive for anyone to come over.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 11:56 AM (0LHZx)
That makes sense.
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 11:56 AM (7lVbc)
That makes sense.
How in the hell did we end up here?
Posted by: donna at June 07, 2016 11:57 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, readying the webcam at June 07, 2016 11:58 AM (9krrF)
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Unfunded mandate? Have you ever used e-verify? It costs the grand sum of $0 to use. Compared to the amount of time/effort companies spend in the hiring process, E-verify is a rounding error.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 11:58 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 11:54 AM (7lVbc)
oh, nice
I never heard of this
thanks
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 11:58 AM (qCMvj)
long beautiful hair
Shining, gleaming, streaming,
flaxen, waxen
Give me down to there, hair,
thigh length or longer
Here baby, there, momma,
everywhere, baby, baby
Posted by: The Yeti at June 07, 2016 11:58 AM (qcIWB)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 11:50 AM (uAvJJ)
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No, it's not.
We talked about this before - it's called prudence, phronesis, in Greek. it's a piece of the practical man's wisdom.
It is a mistake, Aristotle teaches, to expect of all sciences the precision encountered in geometry. This is wisdom, this is true.
The law, as an intellectual and practical matter, is not subject to the strictures imposed on, let us say, mathematical, geometrical, and other sciences, precisely because that with which it concerns itself - man and his actions - is not itself subject to them.
Stick to chemistry - it has the precision and rigor you seek - but do not imagine that its standards, or the standards of any other science, are applicable tot he standards of any other.
as the Philosopher says, we do not say that an architect is a poor one because the stones of his buildings do not match the fit and precision of the stones of a gemcutter. They aim at different ends, and so use different means, and start from different first principles.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 11:58 AM (lutOX)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2016 11:42 AM (zp+j1)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 11:59 AM (6TLl6)
Some examples are Nikki Haley, Paul Ryan, Kelly Ayotte, etc. That is their idea of a new Republican party...
Posted by: William Eaton at June 07, 2016 11:59 AM (KhJh8)
Posted by: Yo! at June 07, 2016 11:59 AM (GwIKd)
costs the grand sum of $0 to use. Compared to the amount of time/effort
companies spend in the hiring process, E-verify is a rounding error.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 11:58 AM (0LHZx)
i miss the point you are arguing , make it simple for me : everify bad or everify good ?
Posted by: runner at June 07, 2016 12:01 PM (c6/9Q)
Posted by: mindful webworker - jack of clubs at June 07, 2016 12:01 PM (dDUXP)
And this enforcement is too cold!
But this enforcement is just right!
Posted by: goldie locks, secretary of state for immigration at June 07, 2016 12:01 PM (PLnZs)
Posted by: Yo! at June 07, 2016 11:59 AM (GwIKd)
See the problem with them mexicans, La Raza, and that jack ass person and his irish law group is that the MEXICANS think THIS is home and home is not called the United States of America!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2016 12:01 PM (zp+j1)
single thief, rapist and murderer in the country or we're not enforcing
the law. We can't get them all, so why bother!
No, you miss the point.
I'm not saying "do nothing". I'm saying that "enforce the law" is a position of principle that cannot be executed with 100% fidelity. That there will always be people who get away with breaking the law. We can spend more and more resources to try to catch more and more criminals, but at some point it reaches the point of diminishing returns. At THAT point, but not before, it's time to consider some form of limited amnesty, I think. It is the same idea as tax amnesty when it comes to tax cheats and the like.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 12:01 PM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 11:56 AM (0LHZx)
Isn't a BAC of >1.0 a requirement of illegals when driving?
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 12:01 PM (6TLl6)
Posted by: Kitty Devondehaven-Shapiro -- BERNIE IN 16! at June 07, 2016 12:02 PM (stZMG)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 07, 2016 12:02 PM (ktOIC)
Posted by: donna at June 07, 2016 12:02 PM (O2RFr)
562 Yeah, the guy who says whatever he wants with no PC filter will destroy the first amendment.
That makes sense.
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 11:56 AM (7lVbc)
And the liberal media and judiciary and government bureaucrats everywhere will meekly submit when Teh Donald tells them to shut up.
They do whatever Republicans tell them to. Why, I remember when Nixon sicced the IRS on his enemies - except he couldn't. The IRS wasn't interested in helping out a Republican president. The Commie in the WH right now - that's a different matter.
I don't care if Trump really does have authoritarian impluses - HE WOULD NEVER GET AWAY WITH IT.
The Democrats have and will.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at June 07, 2016 12:02 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: Soona at June 07, 2016 12:02 PM (Fmupd)
Notice how all the celebrity Shits never threaten they'll move to Mexico if they dont get their desired outcome of an election?
They always say Canada. Why are they so racist against Mexicans?
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at June 07, 2016 12:03 PM (yG7Ca)
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Horrible analogy.
Everything the illegal does in the US is also illegal. Working here is illegal. Using welfare is illegal. Driving without a license/insurance is illegal. So he didn't just commit that one crime. Every day of his presence in this country is a series of criminal acts.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 12:03 PM (0LHZx)
Don't worry. This is my last day here, I'm not coming back.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 12:03 PM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 07, 2016 12:03 PM (ktOIC)
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So you did find your car keys.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 07, 2016 12:04 PM (9mTYi)
I need a lawn mower. I can't believe how fast that green shit grows. We can't really afford something new, (and I don't want new anyway), but the few decent used riding mowers we've seen are way too expensive. In one case, one guy was offering his 20+ year old generic riding mower for 650 dollars. It was worth that much, according to him, because it worked.
There is a mower here that predates us, a self propelled push mower, but it is a wreck. I managed to tease it into life for a bit, but it has serious issues. So lawn mower shopping is on the menu for tomorrow.
Again, bleh.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 07, 2016 12:04 PM (i2t8l)
A St. Louis federal judge is ordering for the first time the release of unredacted grand jury transcripts in the Ferguson police shooting death of Michael Brown to lawyers for his family.
U.S. District Judge E. Richard Webber signed off Monday on an order requiring St. Louis County prosecutors to hand over the testimony and the names of grand jury witnesses to attorneys for Brown's family pressing a wrongful-death lawsuit.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 12:04 PM (6TLl6)
My group is called book horde & friends and I am Vi M there.
Polliwog is there too, her group isn't listed yet but I can give you the link when you're there. She's Knit'n Kitten
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 12:04 PM (7lVbc)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 07, 2016 12:04 PM (qcIWB)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 07, 2016 12:04 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2016 12:05 PM (zp+j1)
Unfunded mandate? Have you ever used e-verify?
It costs the grand sum of $0 to use. Compared to the amount of
time/effort companies spend in the hiring process, E-verify is a
rounding error.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 11:58 AM (0LHZx)
I am talking about generally the burden of proof placed on the employer to prove that all of the employer's employees are legal.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 12:05 PM (uAvJJ)
It's your own fault Chemjeff . It didn't have to be that way. You have taken it much too personal. I hope you reflect on why it's come to this.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 07, 2016 12:06 PM (ktOIC)
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at June 07, 2016 12:06 PM (yG7Ca)
I'm not saying "do nothing". I'm saying that "enforce the law" is a position of principle that cannot be executed with 100% fidelity. That there will always be people who get away with breaking the law. We can spend more and more resources to try to catch more and more criminals, but at some point it reaches the point of diminishing returns. At THAT point, but not before, it's time to consider some form of limited amnesty, I think. It is the same idea as tax amnesty when it comes to tax cheats and the like.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 12:01 PM (uAvJJ)
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Dude you are either obtuse or just being an asshole.
Everyone knows that no system is 100% efficient. No matter what we do, there will be some illegals who enter the country and stay here. But your solution is do nothing. Ours is do something and hope to get 60, 70, 80% of them to either go home.
Yet your answer to every solution is, "well it won't work because it's not perfect". It's the most intellectually lazy argument out there.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 12:06 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 07, 2016 12:04 PM (i2t8l)
Sticky. Go to a local saw and mower shop. Tell them you would like a low-hour zero-turn. You'd be surprised how many folks trade good, well serviced mowers like cars. A new one every year or two.
Posted by: Golfman at June 07, 2016 12:06 PM (b6FQn)
Posted by: Thread at June 07, 2016 12:06 PM (I8Bd1)
Just keep your trap shut about politcs
Right.... Just talk about the weather....
Posted by: donna at June 07, 2016 12:06 PM (O2RFr)
Dear Brown Family,
As a member of the jury that sat on the grand jury, I felt I should inform you of the self-defense measures your legal action have required me to take.
I have hired a dozen snipers. Should anything happen to me, they will see to it your suit becomes rapidly moot.
Please conduct yourself accordingly.
Signed,
Juror X
Posted by: Brother Cavil, readying the webcam at June 07, 2016 12:06 PM (9krrF)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 12:03 PM (uAvJJ)
***
Wait a minute.....
This is your last day with the Horde, and you choose to spend it like this?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 12:07 PM (lutOX)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 07, 2016 12:07 PM (iQIUe)
The East German judges will have a sadz.
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 12:07 PM (7lVbc)
It costs the grand sum of $0 to use. Compared to the amount of
time/effort companies spend in the hiring process, E-verify is a
rounding error.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 11:58 AM (0LHZx)
I am talking about generally the burden of proof placed on the employer to prove that all of the employer's employees are legal.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 12:05 PM (uAvJJ)
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Like employers have the burden of collecting income taxes from their employees.
We're talking a free service that takes maybe 5 minutes of time, total. THE HORROR!!!
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 12:07 PM (0LHZx)
Not even original
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2016 12:07 PM (zp+j1)
Time for some more rioting? I mean shopping?
Posted by: donna at June 07, 2016 12:08 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at June 07, 2016 12:08 PM (yG7Ca)
Posted by: Hank at June 07, 2016 12:08 PM (5Tzyq)
Posted by: Malignantly aggrieved and economically useless at June 07, 2016 12:08 PM (3ZttN)
Posted by: donna at June 07, 2016 12:08 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Golfman at June 07, 2016 12:06 PM (b6FQn)
Or a local 7-11 for some undocumented but law abiding folks hiding in the shadow labor types
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 12:09 PM (6TLl6)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 07, 2016 12:09 PM (PLnZs)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 07, 2016 12:10 PM (GSdpU)
So I might pop in briefly on the ONT, but then that's it.
This place has definitely changed a lot over the past 8 years, when I first found it. For heaven's sake I remember when Moo Moo was a troll. Now he is the vanguard of the Trumpian right, and I'm the troll.
Oh well, it's been fun. But yeah, that is all.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 12:10 PM (uAvJJ)
There is a mower here that predates us, a self propelled push mower, but it is a wreck. I managed to tease it into life for a bit, but it has serious issues. So lawn mower shopping is on the menu for tomorrow.
Again, bleh.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 07, 2016 12:04 PM (i2t8l)
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I wen the used route with a riding mower too. You get what you pay for. If it's relatively new, say 5 years or less, you're better off getting a new one since the price difference isn't that much and you have a warranty with a new one.
Older ones are still not that cheap. $500 is a bare minimum for anything. And even then if it works, it's like an old car....you buy it cheap, but shit breaks all the time.
I gave in this year and bought a new one.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 12:11 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 07, 2016 12:09 PM (PLnZs)
This is my house cleaning philosophy.
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 12:11 PM (7lVbc)
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at June 07, 2016 12:11 PM (yG7Ca)
it at the exact same length all summer long, Sticky Wicket, then you
might as well forget doing it entirely.
Posted by: andycanuck>>>
Or get a pretty goat.
Posted by: Achmed at June 07, 2016 12:11 PM (Mxs5H)
Unless they are 100% Aztecs and Mayans, if they are truly gonna use that argument, they then need to go back to Spain.
Or is there a magikal conquer date that anything before that is ollie ollie oxen free?
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 12:11 PM (LwB8i)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 12:11 PM (6TLl6)
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Thanks. I think?
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 12:12 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: mildly perplexed at June 07, 2016 12:12 PM (stZMG)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 12:12 PM (uAvJJ)
you would like a low-hour zero-turn. You'd be surprised how many folks
trade good, well serviced mowers like cars. A new one every year or two.
Posted by: Golfman at June 07, 2016 12:06 PM (b6FQn)
Thanks Golfman. There are two places not far from me that we're going to visit tomorrow. We borrowed the neighbor lady's, (with the chickens), and it's self propelled, rear wheel drive. Damn thing pulls so hard, it drags me around, heh.
I has to be a riding mower anyway, for personal reasons...so, with luck, we'll find something within our price range.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 07, 2016 12:12 PM (i2t8l)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 12:10 PM (uAvJJ)
***
Well, if you're leaving, don't forget your pineapple.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 12:13 PM (lutOX)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2016 12:13 PM (zp+j1)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 07, 2016 12:09 PM (PLnZs)
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It's Chemjeff argument. If you can't do something perfectly, don't bother.
And there is a way to keep the grass the same height daily. The Roomba cutter.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 12:13 PM (0LHZx)
I gave in this year and bought a new one.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 12:11 PM (0LHZx)
$500 bucks.
Isn't that like a minute of your time?
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 12:13 PM (6TLl6)
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 12:14 PM (I8Bd1)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 07, 2016 12:14 PM (ktOIC)
Consider the video an hors d'oeuvres.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 07, 2016 12:14 PM (qcIWB)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2016 12:14 PM (zp+j1)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 12:12 PM (uAvJJ)
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Sorry I punctured a hole in every one of your ridiculous amnesty defenses. Have a happy life amigo.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 12:14 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 07, 2016 12:14 PM (PLnZs)
Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2016 12:14 PM (B48dK)
Posted by: Hank at June 07, 2016 12:14 PM (5Tzyq)
So this slaughter of innocent wild life is solely the fault of the Christian invaders from Europe.
Posted by: Wu Chu, King of Chu at June 07, 2016 10:08 AM (xxTQ3)
They didn't have horses because they had killed and eaten the native ones.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 07, 2016 12:14 PM (GSdpU)
Posted by: Soona at June 07, 2016 12:15 PM (Fmupd)
Isn't that like a minute of your time?
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 07, 2016 12:13 PM (6TLl6)
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I like to live like the peasants every now and then.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 12:15 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2016 12:15 PM (zp+j1)
Cabrito. End of season? BBQ. Next season? More goats. Rinse. Repeat.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 12:15 PM (LwB8i)
Posted by: seamrog at June 07, 2016 12:15 PM (o9Bwk)
Posted by: runner at June 07, 2016 12:16 PM (c6/9Q)
How about trying a different topic?
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 12:16 PM (7lVbc)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 07, 2016 12:16 PM (p2X2f)
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 12:16 PM (I8Bd1)
Agreed. We need to end the idea that Illegal Immigrants somehow have a right to be here, and then work from there. Until we do, we have de facto open borders and considering any kind of "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" is absurd.
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 07, 2016 12:16 PM (r1fLd)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 12:15 PM (0LHZx)
***
Slumming at the Waldorf-Astoria, doubtless.
I love this place.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 12:17 PM (lutOX)
Tends to eat up plastic carbs in Briggs & Stratton engines.
At least, it did in my generator.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 12:17 PM (LwB8i)
I'll trade chemjeff for the shmuck who accuses everyone of being a racist all the time.
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at June 07, 2016 12:17 PM (yG7Ca)
Yeah, the guy who says whatever he wants with no PC filter will destroy the first amendment.
That makes sense.
It does to the NeverTrump crowd, and that's all that matters.
I will say, however, that even though I am a First Amendment absolutist, it would warm the black, shriveled thing in my chest called a heart if a President Trump went after oh, say, the NYT, WaPo and assorted other rags and subjected them to RICO investigations, suspicion of in-kind contributions to the Democrat party, subversion, leaking national security secrets and using crappy ink that gets all over your hands. Lawfare the fuckers 24/7.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 07, 2016 12:18 PM (X6fMO)
I don't think anyone is suggesting you leave. But you seem to have a perspective that those of us who want full enforcement of immigration laws are unreasonable at best, racist at worst.
I'm helping a friend bring a boat back from Bermuda. I had to get a letter from him complete with information on his boats documentation to enter Bermuda because I am arriving on a one-way ticket. I then have to clear customs when I return in the harbor, I can not leave the boat before clearing or I run the risk of run of getting sideways with the border security.
I am an American and have been since birth. Why should I have to obey the law if thousands stream in here every day and flip our laws the bird?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 07, 2016 12:18 PM (/tuJf)
Well, you did just blow a shit ton of money on that tiny giraffe.
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 12:18 PM (I8Bd1)
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at June 07, 2016 12:17 PM (yG7Ca)
Well not so sure about that, but who are you talking about? 'Person" or "the little shining man" or someone else?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 07, 2016 12:18 PM (zp+j1)
Posted by: Serenity Now! at June 07, 2016 12:19 PM (BDZWU)
I love this place.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 12:17 PM (lutOX)
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I'm at something called a Sher-a-ton. That's native American for middle class lodging.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 12:19 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 07, 2016 10:14 AM (ktOIC)
You can get hardly-used ones there for free, if you go to the ladies' washroom.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 07, 2016 12:20 PM (GSdpU)
Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2016 12:14 PM (B48dK)
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At first they are spooked. Then they use it for transportation.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 07, 2016 12:20 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at June 07, 2016 12:20 PM (yG7Ca)
Read a book.
Yeah. Also be careful on re-entry.
I went camping and mountain climbing with my son for a few days and when I came back to the HQ yesterday I was a wee bitch.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 07, 2016 12:20 PM (1xUj/)
That is because Moo wrote us all checks for $1 million, which is what he earns before I've had my first cup of coffee in the morning. Thanks to Moo I can now buy the polo pony I have always dreamt of owning.
If any other troll is interested in sending me a large sum of money I will also call them "vanguard of the Trumpian right" or "king of the horde" or anything else they wish to be called. I am not proud that way.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at June 07, 2016 12:21 PM (u0lmX)
Back in the CompuServe days, on Religion Forum, there was a disruptive fellow from a Christian-ish sect. He was tolerated for a long time, many thought too long. Nobody cared if he promulgated his own theology. But, he couldn't resist jumping deeply into practically every discussion with his "you're wrong, I'm right" hustling. There were others of his sect who were not so pushy. Wasn't the sect; it was him.
Some time after he was banned from Religion Forum, I ran across him in some computer-specific or gamer forum (I forget which) and saw him holding forth in an ordinary, personable way.
Funny how people have their froth-at-the-mouth trigger subjects but can otherwise seem balanced and sociable.
(Which reminds me: family reunion coming up this weekend. Oboy!)
Posted by: mindful webworker - ten of clubs at June 07, 2016 12:21 PM (dDUXP)
He did what to a tiny giraffe?
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at June 07, 2016 12:22 PM (+aCe4)
Tends to eat up plastic carbs in Briggs Stratton engines.
At least, it did in my generator.
Posted by: rickb223>>>
For all my seasonal gas engines I only use the non ethanol gas that is a little spendy but well worth the extra cost. Having to rebuild the carbs biannually was a pain in the ass.
The Kwik Trip near me sells it.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 07, 2016 12:22 PM (P/aDH)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 12:10 PM (uAvJJ)
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Please do. You are a beloved regular there and would be sorely missed.
I don't think most of us are "pissed off" at you, even though many disagree with you on certain topics.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 07, 2016 12:22 PM (T/5A0)
Posted by: Hank at June 07, 2016 12:22 PM (5Tzyq)
:-)
Posted by: L, Elle at June 07, 2016 12:23 PM (6IPEM)
mower shopping is on the menu for tomorrow.
Again, bleh.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 07, 2016 12:04 PM (i2t8l)
___________________________
I'm having a new craftsman zero turn, 54" deck delived to the house on Friday. I hate mowing...
Posted by: Kudzu King at June 07, 2016 12:23 PM (HSmrB)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 07, 2016 12:24 PM (PLnZs)
http://tinyurl.com/hjsg2d4
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 07, 2016 10:21 AM (rlfds)
She should have been driving a bus. Only buses are allowed to "plunge". It's in the stylebook.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 07, 2016 12:24 PM (GSdpU)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 12:19 PM (0LHZx)
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Roughing it, eh, old man? Brave man.
Take lots of photos, won't you? We can review them and your expedition over port and cigars at the club. have your driver's driver's footman have him to get the Isotta Fraschini out and get here, post-haste.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 07, 2016 12:24 PM (lutOX)
Raking I don't much care for thoughPosted by: Christopher Taylor at June 07, 2016 12:25 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 07, 2016 12:27 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: mindful webworker - nine of cups at June 07, 2016 12:28 PM (dDUXP)
You stooped to conquer, but belled that particularly retarded cat with panache.
Posted by: General Zod at June 07, 2016 12:28 PM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 07, 2016 12:29 PM (PLnZs)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 07, 2016 12:14 PM (PLnZs)
I thought 'Roomba' was a new dance craze.
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 07, 2016 12:32 PM (OxsRO)
And that is one of the frustrating parts of this discussion. The discussion is so polarized, that either you must be in favor of deporting every single illegal, or you must be in favor of granting amnesty to every single illegal. I don't favor either end.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2016 10:43 AM (uAvJJ)
And you are the one who is polarizing it, dillweed. Nobody here is advocating some kind of door-to-door search for illegals; that's a strawman you erected.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 07, 2016 12:40 PM (GSdpU)
Don't go. Until about nine months ago you were a reasonably normal fellow (for a moron),
but you've obviously lost your mind over Trump and immigration.
Here's an experiment (which I conduct on myself when I think I may be getting too worked up about something_-
stay here but avoid talking about Trump or immigration for 30 days.
If you can do it, great you're probably not nuts.
If you can't, well...you may be one fork short of a place setting...and need to reassess things.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 07, 2016 12:51 PM (0cMkb)
Anyone want to argue if the 34th and 41st Infantry Divisions were properly trained for jungle warfare before being deployed to New Guinea?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Fired from driving the Scooby Van at June 07, 2016 01:25 PM (WVsWD)
Again, bleh.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 07, 2016 12:04 PM (i2t8l)
Fix the one you have. Parts are quite cheap. Give the engine a valve grind, and set the valve clearance. It will need to be done, because ethanol "enhanced" fuel is hard on small engine valves. But it's easy to do. If it's an older engine with ignition points in it, you can buy a module for a few dollars to upgrade to electronic ignition.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 07, 2016 01:27 PM (GSdpU)
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