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Overnight Open Thread 05/25/16 - [Niedermeyer's Dead Horse]

To kick it off, for those who don't typically enjoy the pleasure of watching Ace on one of his all-too-few twitter rants, he's at it again. Check his TL here.

It's a continuation of his #NeverTrump post from earlier tonight.


So, who didn't see this coming?


What an a-hole. Empire of Jeff cuts to the chase, as usual.


In case you weren't watching 60 Minutes this past Sunday and, let's face it, you probably weren't, here's a more-than-annoying story re a quite flawed Army recruitment program. The gist of it: The Army paid out $10M in recruitment bonuses then spent $28M (thus far) investigating more than 100k soldiers who they accused of filing false claims.

More than 100k have since been cleared of any wrong doing.


I have a very hard time getting pissed off at soldiers for taking advantage of a program that was so poorly managed and I wonder what you current and former members of the Armed Services think of it.


This is such a cool story but I admit that, for just a second, I felt icky about it. That quickly passed.

The video is terrific, but I like how they parlayed it into a business lesson as well.


Adele has a new song out and I was hooked less than halfway through my first listen.

Speaking of Adele, this is quite entertaining.

It astounds me that some people can just part their lips and that kind of a sound emanates from their pie hole.


Yeah, so that chatter from Elijah Wood has Corey Feldman talking again and this time he's threatening to start naming names.

I hope to see the abusers, ahem, alleged abusers, strung up in front of Grauman's Chinese Theater.


Tonight's ONT brought to you by "Hold my beer":

Posted by: Open Blogger at 10:53 PM




Comments

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1 The competition for first place in threads is rather juvenile, don't you think?

Posted by: mindful webworker on time at May 25, 2016 10:54 PM (rXkis)

2 Two?

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at May 25, 2016 10:55 PM (VSenK)

3 HAH!

Posted by: mindful webworker, juvenile at May 25, 2016 10:55 PM (rXkis)

4 So the Army that is falling apart blew $28 million.

Great... lots of people are going to get killed. This stinks. Many careers need to end and many need to be put on prison work details.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2016 10:55 PM (3se1p)

5 Prison work details. Yes.

Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at May 25, 2016 10:56 PM (VquEu)

6 Woot woot ONT

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 25, 2016 10:57 PM (voOPb)

7 Ah, thank you!! I was going to keep posting ZZ Top videos until the ONT showed up.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 25, 2016 10:58 PM (NGd+i)

8 Anna, are you rich now?

Posted by: @votermom at May 25, 2016 10:58 PM (7lVbc)

9 Twelve?

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 25, 2016 10:59 PM (HalrA)

10 Now I has read all those word-thingies in the post, I thinkz I can watch the viddies.

Posted by: mindful webworker, juvenile at May 25, 2016 10:59 PM (rXkis)

11 Voter Mom, I have no idea. Will check in the morning.

As for now, a long soak in a very warm tub of water as the thunderstorms roll in is my plan.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2016 11:00 PM (3se1p)

12 Hey everybody.

I still miss Craig Ferguson. Having said that... when James Corden loses his political and PC affectations, he can be quite charming/funny. He also does a good number of self-effacing sketches.

One series of sketches he's done that have been funny thus far: "Celebrity Noses." Basically *every* time he tries to do some sort of supposed sketch about, of all things, celebrity noses, some glitch with the CBS crew completely messes it up.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 25, 2016 11:01 PM (ntObR)

13 Ola, ONT..

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 25, 2016 11:01 PM (Q6v1c)

14 Sure kids, we can get you a trampoline.

Posted by: garrett at May 25, 2016 11:01 PM (NvC7m)

15 As for now, a long soak in a very warm tub of water as the thunderstorms roll in is my plan.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2016 11:00 PM (3se1p)

Watch out for wolf spiders

Posted by: @votermom at May 25, 2016 11:01 PM (7lVbc)

16 Hola, amigoz en loz intertuboz!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at May 25, 2016 11:01 PM (EzgxV)

17 Am I the only one that doesn't see a napping Tesla driver?
Oh, and - good evening, all.

Posted by: Chi at May 25, 2016 11:02 PM (YaSSM)

18 #DisagreesButStandsWithAce

#WatchesHisTwitterMentionsBlowUp

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 25, 2016 11:02 PM (7PB/U)

19 4 Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2016 10:55 PM (3se1p)

28 million spread out over 100,000 troops is less than is spent on their Gucci Pajamas, Flic, ACOG, and K pot and Vest....

this is the army trying to balance its budget on the back of the enlisted as always.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 25, 2016 11:02 PM (g8Hfr)

20 tesla probably wanted to film him doing that as an advertisement for the autopilot

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 25, 2016 11:02 PM (Cq0oW)

21 "As for now, a long soak in a very warm tub of water as the thunderstorms roll in is my plan."


You should know better. Comments are going to flow in.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 25, 2016 11:03 PM (Q6v1c)

22 Ricardo Kill, Turkey wants an aircraft carrier for its F-35s.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2016 11:04 PM (3se1p)

23 tesla probably wanted to film him doing that as an advertisement for the autopilot

***

Nuh uh. Tesla's having none of it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2016 11:04 PM (SEXy3)

24 Hola all.

Might be an early night. Just not into life today.

Posted by: Blano at May 25, 2016 11:04 PM (heN73)

25 Not only do I find it hard to read Tweets - like the page NDH linked to for Ace - but lately for some reason Twitter assumes I'm on a mobile device (I'm not) and displays mobile.twitter. Unless I have jabbascript on.

And I thought Ace gave up on Twitter. This mean he's going to be treating the blog as the poor cousin again?

Posted by: mindful webworker is not a-twitterer at May 25, 2016 11:04 PM (rXkis)

26 James Corden has also done a series of sketches, claiming that the names of a lot of companies (and other things) are actually acronyms. For instance, here's his acronym for Twitter:

T ype
W hatever
I t's
T otally
T errible
E veryone's
R acist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY8eOIURFGo

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 25, 2016 11:04 PM (ntObR)

27 "As for now, a long soak in a very warm tub of water as the thunderstorms roll in is my plan."


You should know better. Comments are going to flow in.

***

Damn straight!!!! Get the hell out of the tub!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2016 11:04 PM (SEXy3)

28 And I thought Ace gave up on Twitter. This mean he's going to be treating the blog as the poor cousin again?

Posted by: mindful webworker is not a-twitterer at May 25, 2016 11:04 PM (rXkis)



Nah. He basically said he got pissed off enough by people to be sucked back in briefly.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 25, 2016 11:05 PM (7PB/U)

29 And I thought Ace gave up on Twitter. This mean he's going to be treating the blog as the poor cousin again?

****

He uses Twitter to serve his business interests and, in this case, it directed traffic to his post here at the HQ.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2016 11:05 PM (SEXy3)

30 James Corden's acronym for Chipotle:

C all
H elp
I
P eed
O ut
T he
L ower
E nd

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 25, 2016 11:05 PM (ntObR)

31 Good to be relaxing for a fresh ONT, got m'bourbon poured, dishes are done and it's time to just relax.

There is though, and ONT I'm looking very much forward to.

Can you imagine the festivities here on the evening that the Hildebeest is finally indicted for even a scant few of her crimes?

Not since O.J., have I seen someone so deserving of the orange jumpsuit.

Hers will say "D.O.J. Prisoner" on the back shoulders, and "Wide Load" on the back bottom.

And I don't think they can put her on home arrest. No one makes a Cankle Monitor that big, do they?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 25, 2016 11:07 PM (McRlu)

32 "Ricardo Kill, Turkey wants an aircraft carrier for its F-35s."


Well, I guess they could buy an LCS ship like the the Italians or Spanish. Maybe an older American Amphibious ship.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 25, 2016 11:07 PM (Q6v1c)

33 Bet we haven't spent 28K investigating the Billions in fraud on the EITC and false returns by illegals.

Posted by: Dole & Kemp at May 25, 2016 11:07 PM (Doh4+)

34 Oh!

HORDE!!!

AtC and I have a new podcast episode up. And we have a special guest to start things off.

Link in nic.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 25, 2016 11:08 PM (7PB/U)

35 I hope to see the abusers, ahem, alleged abusers, strung up in front of Grauman's Chinese Theater.

I'm not counting on it. People around the entertainment industry have no standards at all when it comes to the deviant behavior among their own.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 25, 2016 11:08 PM (+lVUW)

36 33 Posted by: Dole & Kemp at May 25, 2016 11:07 PM (Doh4+)

Quite...

Why why those GIs took an OATH....

Juan Pablito here never did not once!

//DoD and the Feds

assholes above

Posted by: sven10077 at May 25, 2016 11:08 PM (g8Hfr)

37 Tub? Bubble bath? Rules!!!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 25, 2016 11:09 PM (voOPb)

38 If remember, I bitched about carrying my mother to the ER up in Greenville and waiting for 4.5 hours and then leaving. Well, yesterday, I (well, Dad) got a bill for $855 for sitting there for that 4.5 hours.

With my father's hearing he's not too good, but I had a little conversation. It was not pleasant. I told them that shit was going to be cancelled or the next thing they would be hearing from is some lawyers, whom I would tell to think of everything they could come up with.

Also, called in a favor about it. My father happens to be good friends with an old nor retired doctor who was one of the pioneers in heart surgery in this area. He still has influence and pull with the hospital system. I called him, told him about it, and he promised he was going to spend a few hours if not days chewing some asses at that hospital.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 25, 2016 11:09 PM (DW+jj)

39 The Trump rally in Anaheim is already over. Thankfully, the OC Sheriffs and local police showed up in force beforehand.

So outside of a small handful of assholes and idiots, the violence was mostly confined to screaming, vapid leftist slogans and insults.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 25, 2016 11:10 PM (ntObR)

40 Evenin' everyone, for as long as this connection lasts.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 25, 2016 11:10 PM (QW/FN)

41 I can do that.

T - toilets
A - are
R - really
G - getting
E - eager
T - trannies

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 25, 2016 11:10 PM (NeFrd)

42 "could buy an LCS ship"

I'm an asshole. That should be "SCS." Sea Control Ship.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 25, 2016 11:11 PM (Q6v1c)

43 Anna Puma #11: ...a long soak in a very warm tub of water as the thunderstorms roll in...

Um... standard pix o.i.d.h. request aside...

I recall the night lightning split a tree in Mom's back yard. I was in the tall-ceilinged living room, and perceived crackling energy in the upper part of the room, then heard Mrs Rudd, at the kitchen sink, scream. She said she saw sparks crackling across the top of the soap suds. She'd just taken her hands out of the water.

Have a nice soak...

Posted by: mindful webworker is not a-twitterer at May 25, 2016 11:11 PM (rXkis)

44 Anna, if you strike it rich, www.missilebases.com is your one-stop shopping for all your bunker needs.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 25, 2016 11:12 PM (D0J8L)

45 44 Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 25, 2016 11:12 PM (D0J8L)

There's a rather nice silo in New York....

Posted by: sven10077 at May 25, 2016 11:13 PM (g8Hfr)

46 Bet we haven't spent 28K investigating the Billions in fraud on the EITC and false returns by illegals.

****

I bet that $28M, in the right hands, could have done some good for soldiers at the VA.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2016 11:13 PM (SEXy3)

47 BTW, the House is still in session at 11:18 pm. On Cspan.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2016 11:14 PM (SEXy3)

48 Seamus, good work!! :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 25, 2016 11:14 PM (ntObR)

49 35 I hope to see the abusers, ahem, alleged abusers, strung up in front of Grauman's Chinese Theater.

I'm not counting on it. People around the entertainment industry have no standards at all when it comes to the deviant behavior among their own.


This pedophile shit has been known for a long time. Almost none of them give a damn.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 25, 2016 11:14 PM (+lVUW)

50 The current in a lightning strike is basically RF. I forget the details and I'm too lazy to look it up, but it's basically some rapid pulses of RF frequency range. That means it does some crazy shit. Stuff on human distance scales are on the order of the wavelength and all that.

You do not know want to be in a tub of water, grounded nicely with a lightning bold decides to strike nearby.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 25, 2016 11:14 PM (DW+jj)

51 46 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2016 11:13 PM (SEXy3)

Those folks are not as deserving as our "new Syrian friends!"

//Bronk

How sad is it we've reached a point where 28 million bucks is a rounding error on one day's operating cost of this monster of a government.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 25, 2016 11:15 PM (g8Hfr)

52 Eh. I got nothin'. Life is an endless abyss of suck. Goodnight.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 25, 2016 11:15 PM (0mRoj)

53 BTW, the House is still in session at 11:18 pm. On Cspan.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2016 11:14 PM (SEXy3)

*****

Good grief, what damage are they doing now?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 25, 2016 11:15 PM (YLidQ)

54 San Jose taking it to the Blues like it was Tuesday Night at UVa.

Posted by: garrett at May 25, 2016 11:15 PM (NvC7m)

55 "I bet that $28M, in the right hands,"


Heh,

Posted by: The Government at May 25, 2016 11:15 PM (Q6v1c)

56 50 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 25, 2016 11:14 PM (DW+jj)

It's only killed me once....


once...

Posted by: sven10077 at May 25, 2016 11:16 PM (g8Hfr)

57 Ace's twitter is on fire crushing the pacifiers of the babies who are too "principled" to vote for the Orange-utang!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 25, 2016 11:16 PM (+b2T3)

58 "You ought not be doin' that boy Corey that way."

Posted by: S Blade at May 25, 2016 11:16 PM (8jQ9S)

59 "BTW, the House is still in session at 11:18 pm. On Cspan."

What are they trying to fcuk us over now?

Posted by: The Government at May 25, 2016 11:17 PM (Q6v1c)

60 Bob Dylan in his Great American Songbook incarnation reminds me of Jimmy "No Relation To Walter" Durante. Neither could sing for beans but the powers of nostalgia and showmanship made them entertaining if not compelling. For those of you who don't know who Jimmy Durante was, get off my lawn.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 25, 2016 11:17 PM (Nwg0u)

61 38 If remember, I bitched about carrying my mother to the ER up in Greenville and waiting for 4.5 hours and then leaving. Well, yesterday, I (well, Dad) got a bill for $855 for sitting there for that 4.5 hours.

Am I reading that right? You finally left without ever seeing a doctor in the ER and they billed you almost $900?

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 25, 2016 11:17 PM (+lVUW)

62 http://houselive.gov/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=23&event_id=83

Sheila Jackson Lee whining she needs 1.8 billion bucks for Zika...

because bitch....your newer better Americans are bringing it...

Posted by: sven10077 at May 25, 2016 11:17 PM (g8Hfr)

63 Insomniac #52: Eh. I got nothin'. Life is an endless abyss of suck. Goodnight.

Well... um...

Wishing you the swellest possible abyss of suck then, anyway, Ins.

Posted by: mindful webworker wins fiends and influenzas people at May 25, 2016 11:18 PM (rXkis)

64 "The Government"


Get away, sumbitch!

Posted by: The Government at May 25, 2016 11:18 PM (Q6v1c)

65 Good grief, what damage are they doing now?

****

I missed it because I didn't know they were still in session, but apparently this happened.

http://bit.ly/1OYCQXw

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2016 11:18 PM (SEXy3)

66 My lib FB family is worried that all the Trump hate spewed now may not leave enough come fall. They worry they might grow weary or become used to the idea of Trump. I love their butthurt!

Posted by: Can't Chose Family at May 25, 2016 11:18 PM (gwG9s)

67 so this is loser hour....

essentially this is the part of the show wherein pet projects and Congresscritter blegs....

Posted by: sven10077 at May 25, 2016 11:18 PM (g8Hfr)

68 God dammit

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 25, 2016 11:18 PM (Q6v1c)

69 61: Yes, they billed us nearly $900 for doing nothing but sitting there. You see, I'm sure they tried to hit Medicare and her secondary with some shit and they said no way, that doesn't sound valid, so they tried to hit us with that sum.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 25, 2016 11:19 PM (DW+jj)

70 65 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2016 11:18 PM (SEXy3)

Right now a NoCal Republican is trying to end EPA's war on resevoirs in California....

"Fuck the Delta Smelt"

Posted by: sven10077 at May 25, 2016 11:19 PM (g8Hfr)

71 You do not know want to be in a tub of water, grounded nicely with a lightning bold decides to strike nearby.
Posted by: publius
-----------

The induced voltages can be spooky too. I've seen arcing between aluminum window frames and the foundation. Mind you, the voltage on the window frame was not from a direct strike, but was inducted by the magnetic pulse consequent of a nearby strike.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2016 11:19 PM (9mTYi)

72 41 I can do that.

T - toilets
A - are
R - really
G - getting
E - eager
T - trannies


I'm buying all new drapes for my house. I was planning on checking out Target. Now I can't. The list of people and organizations that I hate is getting longer and longer.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 25, 2016 11:20 PM (+lVUW)

73 #EwokLivesMatter

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 25, 2016 11:20 PM (VdICR)

74 and Thank God they adjourned...

Posted by: sven10077 at May 25, 2016 11:20 PM (g8Hfr)

75 Y'all need to stop picking on Chipotle.

And Kristen Stewart.

Posted by: eleven -- unenthused trumpchump at May 25, 2016 11:21 PM (qUNWi)

76 I missed it because I didn't know they were still in session, but apparently this happened.

http://bit.ly/1OYCQXw
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2016 11:18 PM (SEXy3)

****

Awesome. The .3% win again. WTF?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 25, 2016 11:21 PM (YLidQ)

77 65 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2016 11:18 PM (SEXy3)

Don't you worry Nied....ANY SECOND now Math Witch will bust out some conservatism...

Posted by: sven10077 at May 25, 2016 11:21 PM (g8Hfr)

78 Good night Mrs. Calabash wherever you are!

Posted by: Jimmy Durante at May 25, 2016 11:21 PM (gwG9s)

79 Good evening everyone
How is everyone doing tonite?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2016 11:22 PM (uAvJJ)

80 And that, ladies and gents, is why the GOP is shit. Not because of Trump. But because of the fucktards in Congress with an R by their names but a D in their hearts.

May they all fry in hell.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 25, 2016 11:22 PM (D0J8L)

81 NDH #65: apparently this happened.

http://bit.ly/1OYCQXw


Daniel Horowitz Tweet:

Your GOP house in the dead of night just codified Obama's transgender edict to cut ties with contractors that dont allow men in female RRs

So glad the Tea Party got true conservatives in the majority in Congress.

Lessee now, where do I check what my congresscritter voted?

Posted by: mindful webworker conservatively at May 25, 2016 11:22 PM (rXkis)

82 they billed us nearly $900 for doing nothing but sitting there.

-
Chair rental.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 25, 2016 11:22 PM (Nwg0u)

83 The Army thing? SOP for the military and the government in general. When I was a young airman at Luke AFB, AZ I worked with a civilian government employee. He worked at Transient Alert and they moved him from swingshift to dayshift without proper notice. He filed a grievance and the Air Force fought him. They spent over 100k fighting him and lost. The money they fought about? Around $1,000.

Posted by: Bill R. at May 25, 2016 11:22 PM (jKUeC)

84 That EoJ has a gift with words

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 25, 2016 11:22 PM (dULJN)

85 You do not know want to be in a tub of water, grounded nicely with a lightning bold decides to strike nearby.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 25, 2016 11:14 PM (DW+jj)


Nor do you want to stand under the only tree in an open field, holding a plow.

One of my great grandfathers was killed by lightning back in the thirties. The mule died, too.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at May 25, 2016 11:23 PM (nvMvs)

86 76 Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 25, 2016 11:21 PM (YLidQ)

I'm so numb I don't even mind our getting fucked over by our House delegation....

I am enraged they don't scream "No see LBGTABCXYZQWERTY ASSHOLES! YOU KNOW WHO PASSED OGABE"S OVERREACH? US SO SHUT THE FUCK UP AND TASKE A LEAK WHEREVER!"

But no Math Witch lets the batshit nuts whine we are oppressing them when the GOP can't be bothered to do ANYTHING we want.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 25, 2016 11:23 PM (g8Hfr)

87 nerdygirl, same here. At least I can still eat at Chik-Fil-A... :-)

Sheila Jackson Lee whining she needs 1.8 billion bucks for Zika...

Would you believe, Queen SJL also put her name on a recent anti-civil forfeiture law. One of her very few remaining sane staffers must have done that for her, I sincerely doubt she has enough working brain cells in her racist gourd to make any correct decision at this point.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 25, 2016 11:23 PM (ntObR)

88 Lessee now, where do I check what my congresscritter voted?

Depends, was it a voice vote? Because if it was, his her or its ass is covered.

That's why I want them ALL gone. Just to make sure.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 25, 2016 11:23 PM (D0J8L)

89 Night night.


Hasta.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 25, 2016 11:24 PM (Q6v1c)

90 Stay frosty, Insomniac. Still praying for you.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 25, 2016 11:24 PM (CS7jF)

91 Yes, they billed us nearly $900 for doing nothing but sitting there. You see, I'm sure they tried to hit Medicare and her secondary with some shit and they said no way, that doesn't sound valid, so they tried to hit us with that sum.




Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 25, 2016 11:19 PM (DW+jj)

Just....wow.

Posted by: Blano at May 25, 2016 11:24 PM (heN73)

92
I bet that $28M, in the right hands, could have done some good for soldiers at the VA.


Well, according to the head of the VA, vets shouldn't be bothered by the lengthy waits 'cause it's just like waiting for a ride at Disney World.

It's interesting the convoluted bullshit that the head bureaucrats can come up with to justify their not wanting to solve problems in their departments.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 25, 2016 11:24 PM (+lVUW)

93 Basically, a good lightning pulse makes a little EMP flash, so to speak (it can be be classfied as a certain class, I forget the details). In Maxwell terms, it's large spike of current dI/dt, which makes a big dB/dt, which then is a travelling wave of induced voltage.

Way back when I was a kid working as an electrician during summers, a carpenter was leaning up against some of tha tinfoil "R-max" sheeting and there was lightning strike some distance away. It shocked the hell out of him. It was the induced voltage in that tinfoil.

I've seen sparks fly from metal sheeting on some our sheds. We've got a pole shed with a tin roof and siding, but it doesn't touch the ground. There's a gap underneath. Well, a cloud was coming on fast, and I was out there doing something and I heard a buzz, a pop, and saw a blue flash out of the corner of my eye.

Then, I heard the thunder. That was the EMP wave of the strike getting there well before the sound wave did.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 25, 2016 11:25 PM (DW+jj)

94 That EoJ has a gift with words
If only he had a blog.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 25, 2016 11:25 PM (PLnZs)

95 I'm buying all new drapes for my house. I was planning on checking out Target. Now I can't. The list of people and organizations that I hate is getting longer and longer.

****

JC Penney. They aren't good at many things but their custom windows department is terrific.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2016 11:26 PM (SEXy3)

96 I missed it because I didn't know they were still in session, but apparently this happened.



http://bit.ly/1OYCQXw

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2016 11:18 PM (SEXy3)

Do you have a link or reference to the actual bill that was voted on?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2016 11:26 PM (uAvJJ)

97 Remember way back about 10 years ago when one of the Gawker sites outed tech billionaire Peter Thiel and made his and his friends' lives hell for no reason?

Yeah...seems he was helping pay for Hulk Hogan's lawsuit against them.

Payback. It's a bitch.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 25, 2016 11:26 PM (D0J8L)

98 We had a metal bowl get struck by lightning one night, out under a big tree.

For years we used that bowl with a big black burn spot on it without a thought.

Posted by: eleven -- unenthused trumpchump at May 25, 2016 11:27 PM (qUNWi)

99 The current in a lightning strike is basically RF. I forget the details
and I'm too lazy to look it up, but it's basically some rapid pulses of
RF frequency range. That means it does some crazy shit. Stuff on human
distance scales are on the order of the wavelength and all that.



Square wave, Fourier series, and all that?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 25, 2016 11:27 PM (oKE6c)

100 Do you have a link or reference to the actual bill that was voted on?
Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2016 11:26 PM (uAvJJ)

****

Oh, FFS.

www.google.com

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 25, 2016 11:28 PM (YLidQ)

101 Bill description etc. linked in my sock.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 25, 2016 11:29 PM (PLnZs)

102 Well I did use google.com and this is what I found. I don't know if this is what Horowitz is referring to, though.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-defense-lgbt-idUSKCN0YA2II

The article contradicts Horowitz's premise that the House approved the measure, though.

So I would like some clarification, that is why I asked.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2016 11:30 PM (uAvJJ)

103 If you ever require insomnia, YouTube will provide. Oh MY GOD IT'S IN THE BACKYARD--

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 25, 2016 11:30 PM (AroJD)

104 96 Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2016 11:26 PM (uAvJJ)

It's the Maloney amendment to the Appropriations Bill....

unless I misread the crawl....

but yes the GOP SPelunking team in its mad dash to "make it rain" just handed SCOAMF another win.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 25, 2016 11:32 PM (g8Hfr)

105 Huffington Post, of all places, has published a GREAT article that takes NO prisoners on the recent troubles at DePaul. It calls out the thug BLMers and SJWers for exactly what they are, miracle of miracles.

University Admins Surrender to Violent Protesters, Shutter Event by Michael Sitver

http://tinyurl.com/h5jrz76

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 25, 2016 11:32 PM (ntObR)

106 "And that, ladies and gents, is why the GOP is shit. Not because of Trump. But because of the fucktards in Congress with an R by their names but a D in their hearts."

Hating one does not preclude hating the other.

And both with fuck over conservatives whenever empowered to do so.

But yeah, its the GOPe fucking us with a chainsaw tonight.

Posted by: lowtech redneck at May 25, 2016 11:32 PM (KF8B+)

107 101
Bill description etc. linked in my sock.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 25, 2016 11:29 PM (PLnZs)

Thank you andycanuck

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2016 11:32 PM (uAvJJ)

108 66 My lib FB family is worried that all the Trump hate spewed now may not leave enough come fall. They worry they might grow weary or become used to the idea of Trump. I love their butthurt!
Posted by: Can't Chose Family at May 25, 2016 11:18 PM (gwG9s)

Have you asked them if they're rioted yet. Seems to be the liberals' goto response to anyone they don't like.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 25, 2016 11:34 PM (+lVUW)

109 The amendment passed 223-195 with 43 Republicans supporting it. The GOP House just supported arguably the most radical Democrat agenda item in the dead of night.

Oh look the House RINOs decided "we must have OPEN amendments" you know like Pelosi had or well no...

and by golly b/c there's no Hastert Rule like the mules have a Pelosi rule we get sold the fuck out by the same type of RINO assholes you hate in Donald Trump champ...

so tell me again how Donald Trump uniquely in the (-r) world will fuck me over in the dead of night.,...

b/c golly I just saw the House GOP do it again.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 25, 2016 11:35 PM (g8Hfr)

110 69 61: Yes, they billed us nearly $900 for doing nothing but sitting there. You see, I'm sure they tried to hit Medicare and her secondary with some shit and they said no way, that doesn't sound valid, so they tried to hit us with that sum.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 25, 2016 11:19 PM (DW+jj)


Are you going to be able to get through this without having a stroke?

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 25, 2016 11:36 PM (+lVUW)

111 Horowitz has written a piece about the tweet.

http://bit.ly/1Rs6Ght

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2016 11:36 PM (SEXy3)

112 99: Jay, you can look up and see the typical waveform of a lightning pulse. Think of it as just some spiky stuff, and you can look at the frequency spectrum.

The lightning process is very fascinating. Basically, for some damn reason (and this is well, not completely understood), charge starts separating in clouds, top to bottom. Top gets positive, bottom gets negative.

Regular lighting strikes are that charged bottom of the cloud trying to spread the charge out, and going to the ground. It's a chaotic process. You get a very high electric field at spots on the bottom of the cloud, which starts a chaotic ionization chain. These are called "stepped leaders". They go in little jumps. A little tube of ionized air forms, sits there, then jumps out some more.

It works its way toward the ground. That negative charge induces a hot spots on the ground, regions of high positive charge and high electric field. This makes a "ground streamer" of ionized air jump from the ground via the same ionization process.

When the streamer meets the leader, "BOOM!", you've got a strike.

The current pulse is enormous, and occurs in short little spikes. Sort of pulsing (but each pulse having its own waveform).

Note, this gets the ground net negative charged. The final equalization is a "positive stroke" that comes from the top of the cloud. These positive strikes are extremely powerful and travel miles. Strikes have be documented that are over 10 miles in length. They pack an order of magnitude or better energy than a regular strike.

Airplanes can stand regular strikes if they get in the way. Not so much those positive monsters, which have brought down airliners a time or two.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 25, 2016 11:36 PM (DW+jj)

113 !De nada!

Posted by: andycanuck at May 25, 2016 11:36 PM (PLnZs)

114 JCPenney is down with the LGBTWYZXT struggle as well. Don't think they are letting the standers in the sitters potties, though.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 25, 2016 11:36 PM (89T5c)

115 And here I was afraid I'd get through the day without a rage stroke.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 25, 2016 11:37 PM (Nwg0u)

116 And here's The Hill on the vote too:
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/735668284050268160

Posted by: andycanuck at May 25, 2016 11:37 PM (PLnZs)

117 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 25, 2016 11:36 PM (DW+jj)


Fascinating. Thanks!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 25, 2016 11:38 PM (oKE6c)

118 111 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2016 11:36 PM (SEXy3)

Correct, he nailed all the points....

The House GOP just undercut the states trying to thwart giggles...

if it makes it to SCotUS SCotUS now says "why gee the GOP Congress supported the President's sensible reinterpretation of Title IX in this creative way....


stupid useless asshole sellout RINO bastards.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 25, 2016 11:38 PM (g8Hfr)

119 That's shocking, publius!

Posted by: andycanuck at May 25, 2016 11:41 PM (PLnZs)

120 stupid useless asshole sellout RINO bastards.

****

That about sums it up.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2016 11:42 PM (SEXy3)

121 Question. Has anyone here ever frozen eggs? A store near me has them for $.49 a dozen. I'm thinking of freezing portions of raw scrambled eggs. If they thaw out decently, I could use them later for omelettes, scrambled eggs, and French toast.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 25, 2016 11:42 PM (+lVUW)

122 120 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2016 11:42 PM (SEXy3)

Why Trump?

Because when people like Ben Shapiro wail "we might lose the House and the Senate!" I am not so sure that is not a bonus.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 25, 2016 11:43 PM (g8Hfr)

123 Is everyone watching the end of the Cavs-Raptors game?

Or has the Late Unpleasantness affected ONT commenting?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 25, 2016 11:43 PM (PLnZs)

124 Question. Has anyone here ever frozen eggs? A store near me has them for $.49 a dozen. I'm thinking of freezing portions of raw scrambled eggs. If they thaw out decently, I could use them later for omelettes, scrambled eggs, and French toast.


Ahhhh.....the omelet long game.

Posted by: eleven -- unenthused trumpchump at May 25, 2016 11:44 PM (qUNWi)

125 Wednesday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/735545747202920448

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/735545915067359232

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/735546102452080642

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/735546287014055936

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/735546541692198913

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2016 11:44 PM (fnmIE)

126 18 #DisagreesButStandsWithAce

#WatchesHisTwitterMentionsBlowUp

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 25, 2016 11:02 PM (7PB/U)



Dude!!!! Saw something at Maker Faire and snagged info on it. Open-source human insulin. Are you going to be around for a while, so I can try to find the flyer?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 25, 2016 11:45 PM (EzgxV)

127 Nerdygirl-
I wouldn't think once the eggs were frozen they would taste very good. Edible, yes. Yummy-no.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 25, 2016 11:45 PM (89T5c)

128 Evenin' horde.

How goes it.

*scrollin

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 25, 2016 11:45 PM (hlMPp)

129 HORDE!!!!!!

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 25, 2016 11:46 PM (rJUlF)

130 This chaotic ionization in air basically limits the voltage of power lines to about a MV (megavolt) or so. If the local electric field (you know the "sharp object" behavior) gets high enough, it will start that chaotic ionization (and cosmic rays may play a role in this process as well!) and you'll get an arc eventually.

No matter how far you separate your wires, unless you can guarantee the local field near the conductors won't get too high, you'll get little leader like fingers forming and spreading out.

There's still all sorts of things they're finding out about lightning. They've discovered some sort of exchange process with the upper atmosphere, even the ionosphere under some conditions. Lightning in the lower atmosphere, and then some sort of "retort" exchange with the upper atmosphere.

There's a station in Florida where they do a lot of lightning research. They learned to make artificial ground streamers by firing a little rocket trailing a wire. They can tell via instruments when a stepped leader is coming down, and fire the rocket right at, and induce a strike right they want it.

Among other things, you can actually test equipment under a real lightning strike.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 25, 2016 11:46 PM (DW+jj)

131 More Wednesday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/735546826737127426

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/735547071537680385

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/735547317718159360

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/735547511427866625

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/735547771931889664

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2016 11:47 PM (fnmIE)

132 Okay, thanks for the updated info.

That is disturbing info. Shame on Paul Ryan for allowing "unlimited amendments". Of course he should have known that Democrats would abuse it.

Of course it's not the end of the story though, it has to go to the Senate and then to conference so we will see what happens.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2016 11:47 PM (uAvJJ)

133 BCochran -- I'm listening to the podcast. Quite a catch there with that special guest.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 25, 2016 11:47 PM (rJUlF)

134
Has anyone here ever frozen eggs? A store near me has them for $.49 a dozen.

I've never seen frozen eggs in a store.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 25, 2016 11:48 PM (k4M/B)

135 More More Wednesday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/735547956657455104

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/735548210282827776

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/735548473420873732

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/735549500006105088

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2016 11:49 PM (fnmIE)

136 And lightning out on the open ocean is always something to be rekoned with, especially with an aluminum mast about fifty feet above the waves.

Best grounding system I've yet seen was on an Amal Super Maramu, which is a French made sailboat, and probably one of the most seaworthy sailboats ever made. A used 54 footer, will set ya back about $250k.

I'd damn sure have one on my "lottery" list of things, too.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 25, 2016 11:49 PM (McRlu)

137 Has anyone here ever frozen eggs? A store near me has them for $.49 a dozen.

Those are MY eggs!!

Posted by: Lena Dunham at May 25, 2016 11:49 PM (ntObR)

138 That is disturbing info. Shame on Paul Ryan for allowing "unlimited amendments". Of course he should have known that Democrats would abuse it.

Of course it's not the end of the story though, it has to go to the Senate and then to conference so we will see what happens.
Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2016 11:47 PM (uAvJJ)

****

Yeah, cuz there is a stellar record of opposition there. Give me a fucking break.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 25, 2016 11:50 PM (YLidQ)

139 Seriously I would say that if eggs were freezable stores or egg farms would freeze them.

I seriously doubt they are. You could try one first to see what happens.

Posted by: eleven -- unenthused trumpchump at May 25, 2016 11:51 PM (qUNWi)

140 132 Posted by: chemjeff at May 25, 2016 11:47 PM (uAvJJ)

Right..."The Senate" you know the BY FAR "more conservative" 1/2 of Congress....with bulldogs like Mooch MacDonald and Juan Queeg with special guest star Lindsey Graham-Queeg....

then these two "achingly sternly disablingly" conservative bodies WHICH WE CONTROL BOTH SIDES of will do what they will fail to do in either body and remove this sop to Obama rewriting Title IX by Imperial Whim....

because that is the story of the Hill GOP Jeff....

"winning"

Posted by: sven10077 at May 25, 2016 11:53 PM (g8Hfr)

141 I know you can freeze eggbeaters and they are supposed to be made from eggs

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 25, 2016 11:54 PM (dULJN)

142 138 Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 25, 2016 11:50 PM (YLidQ)

Turgidly, explosively, sternly "conservative"....

remember there's nothing the GOP can do it is not like they have BOTH FUCKING HOUSES

Posted by: sven10077 at May 25, 2016 11:54 PM (g8Hfr)

143 stupid useless asshole sellout RINO bastards.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 25, 2016 11:38 PM (g8Hfr)


When I get emails from the GOP asking for money, I'm using that in my response.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 25, 2016 11:55 PM (+lVUW)

144 I thought a Super Maramu was a type of car lesbians like?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 25, 2016 11:55 PM (PLnZs)

145 Yes. you can freeze eggs
With sufficient prep

http://preview.tinyurl.com/nonoc4b

Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2016 11:56 PM (ry34m)

146 When I get emails from the GOP asking for money, I'm using that in my response.

***

Don't forget to hashtag it!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2016 11:56 PM (SEXy3)

147 143 Posted by: nerdygirl at May 25, 2016 11:55 PM (+lVUW)

Every day in every way I am approaching my first donations to a democrat....


gonna be in Wisconsin I think.

Math Witch will be gone withing 4 years.

Bank on it.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 25, 2016 11:56 PM (g8Hfr)

148 I've been wondering if it would be possible for someone to win an election just using social media.
A platform of

'I am not bought'
'Vote for me rather than congressman 'conflict of interest'
'btw, when money interest conflicts with voter interest, money talks'

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 25, 2016 11:56 PM (AfNGb)

149 What's the pic at the bottom of the Oct? I don't get it

Posted by: Backtoga at May 25, 2016 11:56 PM (/22Vh)

150 Eggbeater carton and EAS Protein carton look the same without coffee.

Don't make that mistake.

Just a friendly PSA

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 25, 2016 11:56 PM (hlMPp)

151 Eggbeater carton and EAS Protein carton look the same without coffee.



Don't make that mistake.



Just a friendly PSA
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 25, 2016 11:56 PM (hlMPp)


Think that is bad? Generic coffee creamer and generic Boraxo containers look very similar.
It is just that it takes much more Boraxo to make your coffee milky.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2016 11:58 PM (ry34m)

152 Obviously this happened due to the prevalent gun culture in NYC.

@FOX5Atlanta 36s36 seconds ago
#BREAKING: (AP) Police: 1 dead/3 others wounded @ shooting inside New York City concert venue where artist T.I. was scheduled to perform.

Posted by: Thrawn at May 25, 2016 11:59 PM (wQWv4)

153 Juan Queeg is having a tough time in AZ.
Well, they'll just count the votes and let him grandstand against it.

Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at May 26, 2016 12:00 AM (VquEu)

154 Eggs keep forever as long as they are refrigerated. Although they don't last long in my house.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 26, 2016 12:00 AM (89T5c)

155 152 Posted by: Thrawn at May 25, 2016 11:59 PM (wQWv4)

#NeedMoarGunLawz

Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:00 AM (g8Hfr)

156 I've read about corona on the masts of ships freaking sailors out way back in the old days.

And isn't just plain old static build up a problem on ships, well landing a chopper or something on a ship. They need to drop a wire to touch the ship and equalize the charge. I've read of people being killed by such discharges. A chopper is landing and you grab a line or something dangling and get the hell shocked out of you.

And another interesting thing. They actually think now that the lightning EMP alone can induce a heart attack if conditions are right. There've been cases were people just were hiking or something alone way out in the middle of nowhere and just dropped dead. They suspected lightning in cases where there was no other explanation, but there were no marks on the body.

Well, they think that if that EMP is strong enough -- you're close enough to the strike -- and it hits at just the right moment in the cardiac cycle, it can mess it up and send you in v-fib or something like that.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 26, 2016 12:01 AM (DW+jj)

157 153 Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at May 26, 2016 12:00 AM (VquEu)

I see you see how the game is played Sailor!

Come sit on uncle Juan's knee and I'll tell you a story of my downing 5 planes...

//Juan Queeg-Enemy Ace

Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:01 AM (g8Hfr)

158
#BREAKING: (AP) Police: 1 dead/3 others wounded @ shooting inside New York City concert venue where artist T.I. was scheduled to perform.

Haven't heard much from Texas Instruments lately.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 26, 2016 12:01 AM (k4M/B)

159 Hm. Maybe they don't freeze well then. $.50 a dozen eggs are hard to turn down. Maybe I'll make some baked custard.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 26, 2016 12:01 AM (+lVUW)

160 154 Eggs keep forever as long as they are refrigerated. Although they don't last long in my house.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 26, 2016 12:00 AM (89T5c)

They don't in my house, either. Breakfast for me is 2-3 scrambled eggs, no toast or carbs. CW Jr cooks up another 2-3 more each morning for his breakfast burritos.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 26, 2016 12:02 AM (rJUlF)

161 Posted by: nerdygirl at May 26, 2016 12:01 AM (+lVUW)
You could make a quiche.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 26, 2016 12:04 AM (egOGm)

162 79 cents a dozen at ALDI for eggs. Cheap protein.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 26, 2016 12:04 AM (89T5c)

163 Haven't heard much from Texas Instruments lately.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr
----------

*rummages in desk drawer for SR-52*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 26, 2016 12:04 AM (9mTYi)

164 Anyway nigh Horde...

I'm bringing the ONT down....

"Math Witch"...

yeah what precisely is the math necessitating tonight's betrayal?

Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:05 AM (g8Hfr)

165 Was following Ace's timeline tonight, quite the action..

So, anyone want to start a pool on which pundit/writer/blogger with more than 5K Twitter followers is the first to call him a "Trumpkin"?

If there's a pool, put me down for $10 on Ben Shapiro

Posted by: kbdabear at May 26, 2016 12:05 AM (fnmIE)

166 *sips gin & tonic*

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 26, 2016 12:05 AM (Z8xbi)

167 Kindltot,
Thanks.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 26, 2016 12:06 AM (+lVUW)

168 I thought a dozen jumbo eggs for $1.16 was pretty good.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 26, 2016 12:06 AM (k4M/B)

169 I put my eggs in a blender to make fluffy omelets, but I don't like washing it afterward.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 26, 2016 12:06 AM (VdICR)

170 'Evening hat.

Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at May 26, 2016 12:07 AM (VquEu)

171 I'm sure that I could easily tweet 140 characters about any number of subjects but I hardly need any inducement to waste time even more on the internet.
Plus, I find twitter feeds confusing since I don't know what they're replying to and don't feel like checking.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2016 12:07 AM (rmw+9)

172 165 Posted by: kbdabear at May 26, 2016 12:05 AM (fnmIE)

Lil' Ben was quite froggy this evening....

"I don't vote between two democrats!"

Really ben you sat out 2008 and 2012?

How very cosmopolitan....

His Donk Radar didn't sniff Michelle "Bionic" Fields' progressivism out.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:07 AM (g8Hfr)

173 So. Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, who have been married for a grand total of 15 months, are getting divorced.
And she is asking for spousal support.
Wow.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 26, 2016 12:08 AM (T/5A0)

174 Um...hi? I guess. I don't know, I'm up way past my bedtime.

Posted by: DC in River City, Team Mattis at May 26, 2016 12:08 AM (e+1S5)

175 171 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2016 12:07 AM (rmw+9)

It tells you in the top margin of a tweet, or by the @ symbol prior to a name....

nowhere near as mysterious as where our ampersands are here.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:08 AM (g8Hfr)

176 Turgidly, explosively, sternly "conservative"....



remember there's nothing the GOP can do it is not like they have BOTH FUCKING HOUSES

Posted by: sven10077 at May 25, 2016 11:54 PM (g8Hfr)


When people hear the word conservative now, they equate it with Boehner, Ryan, and McConnell who have enough power to shut down the Obama Admin completely, and instead spinelessly enable its every act. That's not what we mean when we say conservative, but it's what everybody who's not a political junkie hears.

That's why we need a new label, one that emphasizes our continuity with the ideals that this country was founded upon. I don't know what the perfect word is, but we'd go further calling ourselves Federalists (are we not people who want to restore balance to the Federal system?) than we would Conservatives these days. That name, at least, doesn't have the dishonor of the Orange Man, the Mock Turtle, and the Wicked Math Witch upon it.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 26, 2016 12:09 AM (HalrA)

177 173 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 26, 2016 12:08 AM (T/5A0)

If reports are to be believed he bathed precisely 15 times in their bout of marital bliss....

so yeah maybe she needs Olfactorial Replacement Surgery

Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:09 AM (g8Hfr)

178 So. Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, who have been married for a grand total of 15 months, are getting divorced.
And she is asking for spousal support.
Wow.

****

Well, how many times can a wife ask her husband to take a freaking bath before it begins to wear on her?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2016 12:09 AM (SEXy3)

179 Not a big fan of ace's rants lately, but his digs at the Rubio folks in his timeline were pretty damn funny.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 26, 2016 12:10 AM (Wckf4)

180 50 quatloos on Ben Howe!

Posted by: pulsating giant brain with green as its team color at May 26, 2016 12:10 AM (PLnZs)

181 177 ---maybe she needs Olfactorial Replacement Surgery
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:09 AM (g8Hfr)
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Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 26, 2016 12:10 AM (T/5A0)

182 Twitter is a mess.

Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at May 26, 2016 12:11 AM (VquEu)

183 Not a big fan of ace's rants lately, but his digs at the Rubio folks in his timeline were pretty damn funny.

***

The comment about Rubio doing porn made me LOL

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2016 12:11 AM (SEXy3)

184 176 Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 26, 2016 12:09 AM (HalrA)

Nice, perversely the Federalists were if anything the more authoritarian impulse leaning graft friendly party back then....

It could possibly confuse the fuck out of any LIVs that remember ANYTHING of their US History and Civics classes...


Whoa man these cats wants MOAR FEDERAL POWER! MOAR GOODIES FOR US FEEL THE BARN!

Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:12 AM (g8Hfr)

185 Depp is too stoned to bathe more than once a month.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 26, 2016 12:12 AM (89T5c)

186 His Donk Radar didn't sniff Michelle "Bionic" Fields' progressivism out.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:07 AM (g8Hfr)

EoJ has been trolling him on Twitter with "Ben Shapiro still getting zero pussy for white knighting Michelle Fields"

Posted by: kbdabear at May 26, 2016 12:14 AM (fnmIE)

187 173 So. Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, who have been married for a grand total of 15 months, are getting divorced. And she is asking for spousal support. Wow.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille



I saw Johnny Depp on TV while surfing the idiot box the other night. He's not aging well. Looks like he drinks too much. Also, he's kind of creepy. Isn't Amber Heard bi? Maybe Depp was expecting threesomes and wasn't getting them. Or he's just a creep.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 26, 2016 12:14 AM (NGd+i)

188 186 KBDaBear

Bwahaha..missed that...

Ben did however lose a byline

Posted by: Sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:15 AM (R+p/Q)

189 What kind of porn could Rubio do? Well, he's "Little Marco", so he likely have to be a gay bottom. He just wouldn't measure up for straight porn.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 26, 2016 12:16 AM (DW+jj)

190 Ace's tweet:

i can't wait for Rubio to finally get into gay porn so his fanbois have some outlet for their passions

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2016 12:17 AM (SEXy3)

191 I miss EoJ.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 26, 2016 12:17 AM (Wckf4)

192 And Sifty

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 26, 2016 12:18 AM (dULJN)

193 Mario is my twink. He has big ears that I can grab onto.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at May 26, 2016 12:18 AM (89T5c)

194 191 I miss EoJ.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 26, 2016 12:17 AM (Wckf4)



As do I. And I miss arhooley.....

Posted by: cthulhu at May 26, 2016 12:18 AM (EzgxV)

195 I miss a lot of people,,,,

Posted by: Sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:19 AM (g8Hfr)

196 What happened to Sifty Bones

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 26, 2016 12:19 AM (dULJN)

197 I miss EoJ too. Sadly, I kind of forgot about him until tonight's ONT. I need to finally check out his blog sometime.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 12:20 AM (6IPEM)

198 Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:12 AM (g8Hfr)

Federalist as a word on its own, shorn of the trappings of its old party, is a great word for someone that's a fan of the system that the founders have created. Federalism in theory is the balance between national/state/local powers where the current parties favor an imbalance to the national side, which makes them Unitary or Statists. It's a nice little soundbyte-level handle that could go a lot further explaining who we are than trying to battle for the tarnished conservative label, which is claimed by everyone from FisCons, to Evangelicals, to RINOs and NeoCons.

Why sign ourselves up for an uphill struggle we don't have to fight? A new label could do world of good.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 26, 2016 12:21 AM (HalrA)

199 Yeah, I guess BackwardsBoy and Soothsayer are never coming back either. It's been too long.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 12:21 AM (6IPEM)

200 Robert and Rum left under their own power....but are missed, just the same.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 26, 2016 12:21 AM (EzgxV)

201 197 L,Elle,

He, CoderInCrisis, Wodeshed, Polli, Nied and others are why I don't nuke Twitter whole....


Posted by: Sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:22 AM (g8Hfr)

202 Johnny Depp, yeah, he's a stinky little fart.

Posted by: Zombie Hunter Thompson at May 26, 2016 12:23 AM (gwG9s)

203 Depp has a reputation as having horrible hygiene. Smells like weeks of BO and bad breath.

May all of the open borders politicians get swarmed by Zika bearing mosquitos

Posted by: Cheri at May 26, 2016 12:24 AM (TmVQX)

204 Corey Feldman has been making claims forever about pedo activity within Hollyweird. Why has he never been willing to name names? He doesn't really have an acting career anymore as far as I know.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 12:24 AM (6IPEM)

205 200 cthulhu,

I miss Rum terribly....she and I had a lot of fun here.

Posted by: Sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:25 AM (g8Hfr)

206 So. Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, who have been married for a grand
total of 15 months, are getting divorced. And she is asking for spousal
support. Wow.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille)))

Does she get to keep the 68 Mustang?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWTrqpRcR7g

Clip from Overhauling episode from ET.

Posted by: Willy J. at May 26, 2016 12:25 AM (LncQn)

207 Yeah, sven, I can see how Twitter can be addictive especially when you're following funny, witty people like Ace and EoJ. That's why I have never wanted to do it. This place is enough of a time suck.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 12:26 AM (6IPEM)

208 Corey Feldman has been making claims forever about pedo activity within
Hollyweird. Why has he never been willing to name names? He doesn't
really have an acting career anymore as far as I know.


Can't afford the defamation lawsuits that would certainly come his way.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 26, 2016 12:27 AM (QW/FN)

209 He, CoderInCrisis, Wodeshed, Polli, Nied and others are why I don't nuke Twitter whole....

Posted by: Sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:22 AM (g8Hfr)

I assume "and others" mean the boob pics I tweet

Posted by: kbdabear at May 26, 2016 12:27 AM (GrXXa)

210 198 Cato,

Federalist, or Freedom Party work well for me.

Posted by: Sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:27 AM (g8Hfr)

211 I assume "and others" mean the boob pics I tweet

I thought it was just random women you met in the course of a day.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 26, 2016 12:29 AM (QW/FN)

212 209 KbDaBear,

Heh Ms10077 is asleep... and others are all the people who keep me going....

Someone here liked my Mila Tan SFW pic

Posted by: Sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:29 AM (g8Hfr)

213 O.K. Completely irrelevant. I've either losr or someone has taken my purse. So now I have to get everything replaced.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2016 12:29 AM (rmw+9)

214 It's being reported by a news station in San Diego, that Casey Anthony's lawyer is ADMITTING she was guilty all along.

Interesting if he actually said that, he could get himself disbarred forever.

Posted by: Lena Dunham at May 26, 2016 12:30 AM (ntObR)

215 Can't afford the defamation lawsuits that would certainly come his way.

****

As we learned on the thread a couple of days ago, there are also those willing to scream "druggie" to discredit him. No compassion given for WTH may have driven him to drugs.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2016 12:30 AM (SEXy3)

216 A suck in time is worth a dime... or something like that anyway.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 26, 2016 12:30 AM (PLnZs)

217 And, Michelle Malkin of late seems to be going a bit feminist. She's complaining about "Hollywood's Pendulous Boobery."

Uh Michelle, some of us guys on the right *like* that stuff....

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2016 12:32 AM (ntObR)

218 I've been using that sock all this time??? DAMN!!!!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2016 12:32 AM (ntObR)

219 Okay, I'm going to post this again under my correct handle.

It's being reported by a news station in San Diego, that Casey Anthony's lawyer is ADMITTING she was guilty all along.

Interesting if he actually said that, he could get himself disbarred forever.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2016 12:33 AM (ntObR)

220 214 Lena Dunham,

Hope her "medicinal pithy" was worth it...

Posted by: Sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:33 AM (g8Hfr)

221 214 It's being reported by a news station in San Diego, that Casey Anthony's lawyer is ADMITTING she was guilty all along.

Interesting if he actually said that, he could get himself disbarred forever.
Posted by: Lena Dunham at May 26, 2016 12:30 AM (ntObR)

How many blow-jobs will it take for him to rescind that statement?

If one interview cancellation = 3 bjs, how many more will it take to disavow a statement.

Math, such as figuring out the conversion rate of bjs to legal services, is hard...

Posted by: Casey Anthony at May 26, 2016 12:34 AM (wQWv4)

222 He, CoderInCrisis, Wodeshed, Polli, Nied and others are why I don't nuke Twitter whole....

Posted by: Sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:22 AM (g8Hfr)

I assume "and others" mean the boob pics I tweet
Posted by: kbdabear at May 26, 2016 12:27 AM (GrXXa)

Possibly. I'm pretty sure it's not my lame tweets.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 26, 2016 12:34 AM (rJUlF)

223 Haven't heard from Conservative Crank in a while. Also, I still miss Aussie.

Peaches has become an infrequent commenter.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 26, 2016 12:34 AM (9mTYi)

224 Federalist sounds good.


Got a Trekkie undertone.

Posted by: eleven -- unenthused trumpchump at May 26, 2016 12:34 AM (qUNWi)

225 It appears that novelist Brad Thor called some one to wack Donald Trump today on the Glen Beck show. This got me thinking:

1. Neither Thor or Beck have mused about going Brutus on Obama or Clinton (which would be bad too), yet now they are like little girls waiting for Super Brutus to save America from Don Caesar. This is the logical end of the Never Trump movement, waxing on about fantasy assassinations!

2. Glenn Beck is crazy and he makes everyone who gets near him look crazy. Ted Cruz's biggest mistake was letting this lunatic become part of his campaign. Stay away...and don't make eye contact.

Posted by: William Eaton at May 26, 2016 12:35 AM (KhJh8)

226 I saw Pendulous Boobery open for Dolly Parton in 1987.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 26, 2016 12:35 AM (rJUlF)

227 Casey, honey, it's gonna take more than BJs to do it. You might want to go the book store and pick up Butt Stuff 101 for a primer, there.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 26, 2016 12:36 AM (DW+jj)

228 213 O.K. Completely irrelevant. I've either losr or someone has taken my purse. So now I have to get everything replaced.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2016 12:29 AM (rmw+9)



That is a major PITA. You have my sympathies. Are you sure you've searched everywhere/backtracked thoroughly?



And, BTW, this is a significant datum in resolving the ongoing FS gender question.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 26, 2016 12:36 AM (EzgxV)

229 what happened to backwardsboy?

Posted by: free tibet, and all that other sh*t at May 26, 2016 12:36 AM (CL76w)

230 O.K. Completely irrelevant. I've either losr or someone has taken my purse. So now I have to get everything replaced.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
----------

I hope nothing irreplaceable was in there.

Mrs. H's purse was lifted while she was shopping. Her wallet had irreplaceable baby pictures in it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 26, 2016 12:37 AM (9mTYi)

231 I saw The Trekkie Undertones open for The Oneders at the Play-Tone Showcase in Erie in '64.

Posted by: anachronism at May 26, 2016 12:37 AM (vsLAs)

232 I saw Pendulous Boobery open for Dolly Parton in 1987.

The "Thanks for the Mammaries" tour?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 26, 2016 12:37 AM (QW/FN)

233 Hey CW, gotta question for you. Any SJWs ever call your station complaining about the song "Sweet Home Alabama"?? ;-)

Was hearing it today on the radio for about the billionth time, when it finally hit me: the song seems definitely to have a subtext of "liberal hypocrisy/bigotry about the south."

Of course I may have been high on BBQ chicken sandwich fumes at the time.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2016 12:37 AM (ntObR)

234 It just struck me that Glenn Beck would be a perfect M Night Shamalan character.

Posted by: eleven -- unenthused trumpchump at May 26, 2016 12:38 AM (qUNWi)

235
Lena Dunham,
Hope her "medicinal pithy" was worth it...
Posted by: Sven10077


Sounds like something Mike Tyson would say.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 26, 2016 12:38 AM (k4M/B)

236 I remember a time -- over a decade ago -- when Beck was fun to listen to. "Good morning, you sick, twisted freaks!", Moron Jeopardy, the segments where he read his hate mail...on one show, he was crank calling people as Michael Jackson; I was on a trip to the Texas Panhandle with the kids, and we all laughed hard.

These days, I just can't listen anymore. He's gone around the bend.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 26, 2016 12:38 AM (rJUlF)

237 208 Corey Feldman has been making claims forever about pedo activity within
Hollyweird. Why has he never been willing to name names? He doesn't
really have an acting career anymore as far as I know.

Can't afford the defamation lawsuits that would certainly come his way.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 26, 2016 12:27 AM (QW/FN)


In the linked article, Feldman says that Cali has a lot shorter statute of limitations for sexual abuse than other states. All of his abuse are past the statute. Points out that Cosby is getting charged because the states he did it in, have much longer statutes.

I would vote very quickly for a Presidential candidate that would go after the Hollywood crime organization.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May 26, 2016 12:39 AM (1JnAL)

238 In related news, Casey Anthony is reportedly on the short list for Hillary's VP.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2016 12:39 AM (ntObR)

239 We could call ourselves The Federation of Awesome.

Holy shit I'm gettin myself worked up now.

Posted by: eleven -- unenthused trumpchump at May 26, 2016 12:39 AM (qUNWi)

240 227 Casey, honey, it's gonna take more than BJs to do it. You might want to go the book store and pick up Butt Stuff 101 for a primer, there.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 26, 2016 12:36 AM (DW+jj)

BOHICA.

Posted by: Casey Anthony at May 26, 2016 12:39 AM (wQWv4)

241 225 William Eaton,

Correct neither man hated Obama as hard,,,

Posted by: Sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:39 AM (FYqfs)

242 qdpsteve,

Not around here, even with the local liberal arts college. I get calls from people complaining I don't play MORE Skynyrd.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 26, 2016 12:40 AM (rJUlF)

243 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 26, 2016 12:37 AM (9mTYi)

Nothing of sentimental value (Sorry about Mrs. Hammer's photos) but information I needed and am I just not supposed to drive until I get a new license? I guess so.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2016 12:40 AM (rmw+9)

244 Did Gerg/Greg get banned? Die?

Posted by: Milk Carton Photo at May 26, 2016 12:41 AM (gwG9s)

245 So our Conservative Republican House fucked us again.

Well, I'm just gobsmacked.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 26, 2016 12:41 AM (ZEzaq)

246 I just not supposed to drive until I get a new license? I guess so.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
------------

I wouldn't worry about driving without the license in your possession.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 26, 2016 12:42 AM (9mTYi)

247 CW, good to hear. :-)

There's also *one* news story out there, from a site I never heard of, that says Neil Young has now *given permission* to Trump to use his songs at rallies.

I guess the check didn't bounce...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2016 12:42 AM (ntObR)

248 Did Gerg/Greg get banned? Die?

Stuck his head up his ass, liked it, and kept going.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 26, 2016 12:42 AM (QW/FN)

249 I've always wanted a Ronnie Van Zandt hat.

And be wearing it and nothing else while banging Terri Hatcher for some damn reason.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 26, 2016 12:42 AM (DW+jj)

250 I think they were just 'asking questions', William.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 26, 2016 12:43 AM (PLnZs)

251 So, Corey Feldman is starting to look like Geddy Lee?

/that's... unexpected.

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at May 26, 2016 12:44 AM (AHDxb)

252 Oh, and I watched C-Span video of Tom Cotton going after Harry Reid on the floor of the Senate today. By Senate standards, Cotton went absolutely apeshit (as well he was right to).

Especially worth it as so many libs will shorten their lives contorting themselves into megaspasms of anger over what Cotton said. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2016 12:44 AM (ntObR)

253 Posted by: nerdygirl at May 25, 2016 11:42 PM (+lVUW)

In case you're still here, eggs break when frozen. Sadly, I know this from experience due to storing eggs in the fridge on the freezer side of a side-by-side.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 26, 2016 12:44 AM (GDulk)

254 I wouldn't worry about driving without the license in your possession.

The cops drive shitty cars nowadays, so you should be able to outrun them in a bog-standard V6 Accord.

Posted by: Elwood Blues at May 26, 2016 12:44 AM (vsLAs)

255 See you all later in the morning. It's a bit late here.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 26, 2016 12:44 AM (PLnZs)

256 Fenlon.... if you know your DL number, you're good for a bit of time, the statute of which varies by State.

In Texas, you can order a replacement license online, print out your temporary, and never have to go to the DPS office and stand in line.

Hope you'll have it as easy in your locale, ma'am!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2016 12:45 AM (McRlu)

257 There's also *one* news story out there, from a site I never heard of, that says Neil Young has now *given permission* to Trump to use his songs at rallies.

I guess the check didn't bounce...
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2016 12:42 AM (ntObR)

Eh, Trump could use the songs as long as he pays the performance rights fees to ASCAP, BMI or SESAC. All these musicians saying "I didn't give (X) permission to use my songs!" are just virtue signalling.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 26, 2016 12:46 AM (rJUlF)

258 Casey Anthony can't be tried for the same crime, can she? It's DoubLe Jeopardy isn't it and if they have no actual physical evidence.....?. If she did kill her daughter to go partying and she isn't so much of a malignant narcissist that she justifies it eventually she;ll be in a emotional hell which she'll deserve,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2016 12:46 AM (rmw+9)

259 CW, exactly. I also very much hope Trump starts going after some of these asshole musicians. "So-and-so said I don't have permission and he hates me, so let's turn it up REALLY LOUD!!!" ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2016 12:47 AM (ntObR)

260 I've always wanted a Ronnie Van Zandt hat.

And be wearing it and nothing else while banging Terri Hatcher for some damn reason.


Ah yes....the old "vintage fantasy".

Posted by: eleven -- unenthused trumpchump at May 26, 2016 12:47 AM (qUNWi)

261 Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2016 12:45 AM (McRlu)

Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2016 12:47 AM (rmw+9)

262 That is a major PITA. You have my sympathies. Are you sure you've searched everywhere/backtracked thoroughly?

I called everyplace I had been and it's nowhere here either, but I have no idea when it was taken.,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2016 12:49 AM (rmw+9)

263 We have a Donald Trump BrandTrumpoline (tm) on the top of Trump Towers. It's fantastic. Really, really great. You feel like your flying, and never have to worry about falling a long, long way to your death. Well, maybe that one time, but that's not important. Flying is exciting!

Posted by: D. Trump at May 26, 2016 12:50 AM (H9MG5)

264 And, BTW, this is a significant datum in resolving the ongoing FS gender question.

There were also clues dropped during the spousal unit's adventures in becoming a school bus driver.

Unless, like Zombie, FS is dropping contradictory hints to maintain the mystique.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 26, 2016 12:51 AM (brIR5)

265 Eh, Trump could use the songs as long as he pays the performance rights fees to ASCAP, BMI or SESAC. All these musicians saying "I didn't give (X) permission to use my songs!" are just virtue signalling.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread
----------

That's good news. I'm thinking about making up an ad for Roy Cooper (D-NC) who is going to run for Governor. Cooper has opposed NC HB2. I'm thinking that a few bars from 'Aqualung' coupled with an overlay of "Vote With The Child Molesters, Vote Cooper" ought to make the point.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 26, 2016 12:51 AM (9mTYi)

266 262 That is a major PITA. You have my sympathies. Are you sure you've searched everywhere/backtracked thoroughly?

I called everyplace I had been and it's nowhere here either, but I have no idea when it was taken.,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2016 12:49 AM (rmw+9)



Try going online and investigating your most recent charges. If you charged at a restaurant and left it in the ladies' room, it might be at the restaurant's lost-and-found.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 26, 2016 12:53 AM (EzgxV)

267 Fen, sorry about losing all your stuff. What a giant headache. Also sorry for saying you were a guy or a married lesbian on one comment thread. I did say you were a nice guy and nice married lesbian though.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 12:57 AM (6IPEM)

268 Posted by: cthulhu at May 26, 2016 12:53 AM (EzgxV)

Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2016 12:57 AM (rmw+9)

269 234 It just struck me that Glenn Beck would be a perfect M Night Shamalan character.

Posted by: eleven -- unenthused trumpchump at May 26, 2016 12:38 AM (qUNWi)

Andy Griffith's Lonesome Rhodes character from A Face in The Crowd looks prophetic now

Posted by: kbdabear at May 26, 2016 12:58 AM (xtAD7)

270 The new Collector's Edition of Manhunter on blu-ray came out yesterday, I just found out.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2016 01:00 AM (ntObR)

271 268 Posted by: cthulhu at May 26, 2016 12:53 AM (EzgxV)

Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2016 12:57 AM (rmw+9)



Tracking down the fiancee's lost stuff is a particular speciality of mine.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 26, 2016 01:00 AM (EzgxV)

272 Fenelon,

You should physically go to the places you've been and pesonally ask around... When you just call, you don't know who you'll get and that person might not know or even care!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 26, 2016 01:00 AM (kP16F)

273 270 The new Collector's Edition of Manhunter on blu-ray came out yesterday, I just found out.


Thats an excellent flick!

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 26, 2016 01:02 AM (NGd+i)

274 So my offsite boss really needs a vacation badly. He's going in a few weeks, but in the meantime he's pretty irrational and very myopic, so I am just trying to avoid him. I did tell him I was glad that he's going on vacation but I hesitated to say even that because it's one of those situations that he's said things so out of the character that it feel uncomfortable. People who are excellent as teachers and pastors should not become denominational supervisors. They all hate it even though the pay is good.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2016 01:03 AM (rmw+9)

275 Puddleglum, yup.

I have a circa-2000 DVD edition of it and a basic blu-ray edition of it, but I think I may spring for this new one anyway. Think it's better and has better special features.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2016 01:04 AM (ntObR)

276 Here's the new edition of Manhunter on blu-ray at Amazon. Great pic of Tom Noonan on the cover.

http://tinyurl.com/j56wy3y

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2016 01:05 AM (ntObR)

277 >>>> You should physically go to the places you've been and pesonally ask around... When you just call, you don't know who you'll get and that person might not know or even care!
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 26, 2016 01:00 AM (kP16F)
------
Yes. Do this. I used to not carry a handbag only my pocketbook with my cell phone and car keys in my pockets. I kept absentmindedly leaving my wallet in grocery carts and restrooms when I would set it down. Every single time someone turned it in to customer service. The only time I had anything stolen was when I left my wallet behind at church. Go figure. All my cash was gone but credit cards and ID and stuff was all left behind thankfully. I carry a stupid handbag now.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 01:06 AM (6IPEM)

278 Just found out, John Wayne's "They Were Expendable" is also coming to blu-ray in two weeks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2016 01:08 AM (ntObR)

279 BC cut and run, so I'm not going to frantically rummage through stuff. There were two different booths at Maker Faire talking about human insulin synthesis outside the patents. When I dig up the paperwork, I'll look to share it on the Marginal Chairman blog.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 26, 2016 01:09 AM (EzgxV)

280 And "The Crying Game" is coming to blu-ray soon too.

(Yes, I know the twist.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2016 01:09 AM (ntObR)

281 Fenlon....lots of good Morons here giving sound advice for your purseanal problem.


/muldoon



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2016 01:11 AM (McRlu)

282 That's why we need a new label, one that emphasizes our continuity with the ideals that this country was founded upon. I don't know what the perfect word is, but we'd go further calling ourselves Federalists (are we not people who want to restore balance to the Federal system?) than we would Conservatives these days. That name, at least, doesn't have the dishonor of the Orange Man, the Mock Turtle, and the Wicked Math Witch upon it.


Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 26, 2016 12:09 AM (HalrA)

I like calling myself a conservative.

Plus, we already have a name for the McConnell's, Ryan's etc. of the world.

Traitor.

Posted by: Blano at May 26, 2016 01:12 AM (lbcdD)

283 257 There's also *one* news story out there, from a site I never heard of, that says Neil Young has now *given permission* to Trump to use his songs at rallies.

I guess the check didn't bounce...
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2016 12:42 AM (ntObR)

Eh, Trump could use the songs as long as he pays the performance rights fees to ASCAP, BMI or SESAC. All these musicians saying "I didn't give (X) permission to use my songs!" are just virtue signalling.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 26, 2016 12:46 AM (rJUlF)


I always find it humorous that all these "artists" go on and on about not "selling out" and hating "the corporations, man", and then go right out and sign with ASCAP, BMI and SESAC.

Oh, and when they sell the rights to their music because they want that scrilla now, but then bitch later because the song was used in a commercial. Hey dickhead, you sold your rights to your music, you don't own it anymore.

BTW, when you Mr Artist go on and on about how radio stations don't pay you for airing your songs, here's a little hint, they pay a shitload in fees to ASCAP, SESAC, and BMI. If you really want to get froggy, then maybe radio stations could charge you the same amount that they charge advertisers since listeners go out and buy your product.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May 26, 2016 01:13 AM (1JnAL)

284 Well, I had to go looking for Ronnie Van Zant style hats. They're called "gambler" or "hi-rollers" and of a certain style. Pricey little SOBs too. For about $500+, I could get a cool one.

Now, I'd just buy the damn think if Terri Hatcher could come with it. Or any current hottie would do, really.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 26, 2016 01:14 AM (DW+jj)

285 I assume "and others" mean the boob pics I tweet


Posted by: kbdabear at May 26, 2016 12:27 AM (GrXXa)

Once again I end yet another shitty day in my rather shitty life on a more pleasant note because of your tweets.

Posted by: Blano at May 26, 2016 01:17 AM (lbcdD)

286 You just visualized me. Sweet dreams.

Posted by: Naked Yoko at May 26, 2016 01:18 AM (gwG9s)

287 Before I read back to see what's up with the pastor :

Jim,
I went the local Sports Authority, but not only did they not have any guns or ammo, apparently this particular location has had a giant Store Closing banner out front for over a month.
So much for my situatioal awareness standards...

That place was picked over like a pig carcass at an Ethiopian picnic.

Posted by: Chi at May 26, 2016 01:19 AM (YaSSM)

288 Well, back on line. ISP had a major hiccup. Nearly all their subscribers in Alberta were shut down. Don't know how long I will be able to post. Getting right fed up; they shut me down last night, too, for "planned maintenance".


Beginning to think they don't know if their assholes are punched, bored, or reamed out with a toothpick.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 26, 2016 01:19 AM (35BaE)

289 Home, with cats, crickets, and adult beverage. Life is okay for the moment.

Although, in the larger perspective, my life seems to get a little bit harsher practically every time I turn around.

I'd wager seven out of ten Morons can tell me the obvious solution for that. (The other three don't read my comments.)

Posted by: mindful webworker in an alternate universe at May 26, 2016 01:20 AM (rXkis)

290 "They Were Expendable"! I remember that from that out-of-control movie-title spoof ONT some nights ago...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 26, 2016 01:21 AM (kP16F)

291 Damn straight!!!! Get the hell out of the tub!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 25, 2016 11:04 PM (SEXy3)


And wipe the fog off the Webcam lens!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 26, 2016 01:23 AM (35BaE)

292 BTW, when you Mr Artist go on and on about how radio stations don't pay you for airing your songs, here's a little hint, they pay a shitload in fees to ASCAP, SESAC, and BMI. If you really want to get froggy, then maybe radio stations could charge you the same amount that they charge advertisers since listeners go out and buy your product.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May 26, 2016 01:13 AM (1JnAL)

Our station owner has said often that performance rights fees are our largest expense outside of payroll. And it's even higher now, because we have to pay more for streaming our programming online.

There are different rules, though, for performance in public events (like campaign rallies), broadcast, and using songs in commercials. You may have the rights to use a song in one instance, but not the other.

I've had to deal with ad sales people who tell clients they can use a certain song in their ads. I tell them until I'm blue in the face that we can't do that unless the client has the rights use the song that way. If we were caught airing an ad like that, it would cost our station a five-figure fine.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 26, 2016 01:24 AM (rJUlF)

293 Well, back on line. ISP had a major hiccup. Nearly all their subscribers in Alberta were shut down. Don't know how long I will be able to post. Getting right fed up; they shut me down last night, too, for "planned maintenance".
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Probably a sheared bolt in their server.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 26, 2016 01:24 AM (oFSUK)

294 I'd wager seven out of ten Morons can tell me the obvious solution for that. (The other three don't read my comments.)

Don't be practical. DUH!

Posted by: Adriane the Cynic ... at May 26, 2016 01:25 AM (AoK0a)

295 AJ, I'm sure you're aware of the differences in performance rights depending on venue. I'm just posting it for the edification of the rest of the Horde.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 26, 2016 01:25 AM (rJUlF)

296 Probably a sheared bolt in their server.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 26, 2016 01:24 AM (oFSUK)

Or a frammled skyhook. Easily fixed if you just add blinker fluid.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 26, 2016 01:26 AM (rJUlF)

297 I just not supposed to drive until I get a new license? I guess so.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Have you never flashed a cop to get out of a ticket?

Posted by: Blano at May 26, 2016 01:26 AM (XHyTv)

298 Aw, sheesh. Have to be up in six hours. Goodnight, y'all.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 26, 2016 01:27 AM (rJUlF)

299
Evening, all.

I'm going to an advance screening of Weiner tomorrow night!

Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 01:28 AM (5o5ek)

300 Breitbart has in their Trending Now news an article about men dressing up as dogs for "pup play".

Zombie photo documented that a couple of years ago in San Fran at a Folsom Street event. It's on the zombietime.com website.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 26, 2016 01:29 AM (gyKtp)

301 I'd wager seven out of ten Morons can tell me the obvious solution for that. (The other three don't read my comments.)


Blowjobs?

The solution and cause of all life's problems?

Posted by: eleven -- unenthused trumpchump at May 26, 2016 01:29 AM (qUNWi)

302 I'm pretty sure I have a near-mint copy of Frammled Skyhook and the Blinker Fluids' first LP. Never saw them in concert, though.

*

Reducing former estimate to six out of ten.

Posted by: mindful webworker in an alternate reality at May 26, 2016 01:30 AM (rXkis)

303 "Fuck the Delta Smelt"

Posted by: sven10077 at May 25, 2016 11:19 PM (g8Hfr)


Them what smelt it, dealt it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 26, 2016 01:30 AM (35BaE)

304 Fenelon!

You were asking earlier today about a site that summarizes Hillary's email scandal for a friend. There's this:

http://www.thompsontimeline.com/The_Clinton_Email_Scandal_Timeline

And today's WaPo editorial provides a good summary. Very ouchy for Madame Hillary, too.

Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 01:32 AM (5o5ek)

305 What a day, huh?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 26, 2016 01:32 AM (wOKJp)

306 Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 26, 2016 01:32 AM (wOKJp)

You're banned.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 26, 2016 01:33 AM (gyKtp)

307
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 26, 2016 01:32 AM (wOKJp)

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Uhh.... is that the ghost of the Ghost of kari?

Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 01:34 AM (5o5ek)

308 * throws over all the cards John Daly style *

* and if you get that reference, you're ancient *

Naw, see... if my life gets a little harsher every time I turn around, the obvious solution is... to quit turning around.

It all began when I read the scripture about listening for that "still small voice behind you saying, 'this is the way.'"

So, I'd turn around to follow it, next thing you know, there's that still small voice behind me again, saying, "this is the way."

Got dizzy after a while.

Posted by: mindful webworker in an alternate mindset at May 26, 2016 01:35 AM (rXkis)

309 Goodnight all, fun chat tonight. (Can't believe no one liked my HuffPo link, but oh well.) ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2016 01:35 AM (ntObR)

310 The induced voltages can be spooky too. I've seen arcing between aluminum window frames and the foundation. Mind you, the voltage on the window frame was not from a direct strike, but was inducted by the magnetic pulse consequent of a nearby strike.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2016 11:19 PM (9mTYi)


I have never had a close encounter with lightning, but thundershowers are in the current forecast here, and I am smack in the middle of Alberta's Tornado Alley.


I did see a nifty electrical show one time when a 480 volt 3-phase plug on a drilling rig developed a short to ground, being, in this case, the beer-can sized aluminum shell of the plug. There was a half-inch hole burned in the shell, and a ping-pong ball of plasma bounced across the lease towards me, before going "poof" and disappearing without a trace. They had it up and running again in 30 minutes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 26, 2016 01:35 AM (35BaE)

311 There's already a podcast called The Federalist. It's similar to National Review except it's not terrible.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 26, 2016 01:35 AM (VdICR)

312 Haha what? I'm banned?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 26, 2016 01:35 AM (wOKJp)

313 I haven't posted but 10-12 times in the last two weeks.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 26, 2016 01:36 AM (wOKJp)

314 Conservative is near and dear to us but to the populace it's meaning is and who what/we/they are is controlled by the media and its cohorts.


... I've viewed conservatism as holding closely to the Constitution and, for me particularly, the Bill of Rights. And the whole Life, Liberty, and Pursuit thing. That anything not specifically given over to the Feds stayed with the States. Less government is best government. Local is better than Distant. People live their lives with their rights protected, and otherwise pretty much left alone. ...

Posted by: grammie winger
http://preview.tinyurl.com/j92lhvx



Federalist


Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at May 26, 2016 01:38 AM (VquEu)

315 Have you never flashed a cop to get out of a ticket?
Posted by: Blano at May 26, 2016 01:26 AM (XHyTv)

No and if i did it now at my advanced age he'd give me another ticket. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2016 01:38 AM (rmw+9)

316 * waves howdy across the room to FenelonSpoke just because I haven't howdied you in a while. *

Posted by: mindful webworker in flagrant truancy at May 26, 2016 01:39 AM (rXkis)

317 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2016 01:38 AM (rmw+9)

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Fen, I posted @ you a couple of posts up . . . maybe 10 posts up.

Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 01:40 AM (5o5ek)

318 I've seen sparks fly from metal sheeting on some our sheds. We've got a pole shed with a tin roof and siding, but it doesn't touch the ground. There's a gap underneath. Well, a cloud was coming on fast, and I was out there doing something and I heard a buzz, a pop, and saw a blue flash out of the corner of my eye.

Then, I heard the thunder. That was the EMP wave of the strike getting there well before the sound wave did.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 25, 2016 11:25 PM (DW+jj)


I have lightning rods, with heavy braided ground cable, on all my buildings here. I am a believer. And they look cool, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 26, 2016 01:40 AM (35BaE)

319 See the thread below for your banning by ace, kari.

Then go away.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 26, 2016 01:40 AM (gyKtp)

320 HELLO? Can I get some kind of explanation or what? What on earth did I do that the sight of my name gets me a "ur band" right off the bat?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 26, 2016 01:41 AM (wOKJp)

321 So...Corey Feldman's going to start (maybe) naming names.

Anyone else get the feeling that's just him passing the hat for a little baksheesh? Kind of odd that for all of this feeling about how horrible the kiddie-diddling in Hollywood is, absolutely nothing ever comes of it.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at May 26, 2016 01:41 AM (ggtda)

322 For some reason, I find it funny that y'all were confused about Fenelon. Hope you find everything safe & unharmed.

Kari was banned? I should glance at the daywalker threads more often...

Posted by: Chi at May 26, 2016 01:41 AM (YaSSM)

323 kari, key to enlightenment @319

Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 01:41 AM (5o5ek)

324 Thanks for the info, Iforget.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2016 01:42 AM (rmw+9)

325 lol @ pastafarian. That guy never fails to make my day. God forbid I should ever have my home address aired publicly, he'd send me postcards.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 26, 2016 01:42 AM (wOKJp)

326 Kinda funny, a commenter - banned - here and wondering about why he was banned.


I thought bannination was sort of a technical thinggy involving those unique identifying codes and stuff and so on, or something. Apparently not, if kari is here.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2016 01:44 AM (QDnY+)

327 Bummer on the Sports Authority carcass viewing. Bet they wish they'd been sellin' guns n' ammo now, right?

I'm morphing to the state of horizontally suspended animation.

Hasta la nite nite, Horde!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2016 01:45 AM (uIT/e)

328 Hey, where all da white wimmen at?

Posted by: Sheriff Bart at May 26, 2016 01:46 AM (sl+zA)

329 Ghost of kari, are you Phone of kari?

Posted by: eleven -- unenthused trumpchump at May 26, 2016 01:46 AM (qUNWi)

330 Airplanes can stand regular strikes if they get in the way. Not so much those positive monsters, which have brought down airliners a time or two.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 25, 2016 11:36 PM (DW+jj)


And then there are the "sprites" and another phenomenon, the name of which escapes me, which are strike or rays going upward from a thundercloud into the ionosphere. Pilots have witnessed them, and film exists, too. I saw one once, from a T-storm low on the horizon. Was like a broad red laser beam pulsing up from the cloud.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 26, 2016 01:46 AM (35BaE)

331
324 Thanks for the info, Iforget.

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Hope it's useful. I'm not sure what level of reader your friend is.

Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 01:46 AM (5o5ek)

332 Isn't it the hashtag thingy that gets banned?

Just wondering 'cause I don't know squat about this subject.

Posted by: Blano at May 26, 2016 01:47 AM (XHyTv)

333 So, if I'm not mistaken, when someone gets banned, every post by that IP gets disappeared, right?

Since that would make going downstairs futile, a synopsis please? WTF happened? I don't care for kari, but, banned?

Posted by: Chi at May 26, 2016 01:47 AM (YaSSM)

334 Our station owner has said often that performance rights fees are our largest expense outside of payroll. And it's even higher now, because we have to pay more for streaming our programming online.

There are different rules, though, for performance in public events (like campaign rallies), broadcast, and using songs in commercials. You may have the rights to use a song in one instance, but not the other.

I've had to deal with ad sales people who tell clients they can use a certain song in their ads. I tell them until I'm blue in the face that we can't do that unless the client has the rights use the song that way. If we were caught airing an ad like that, it would cost our station a five-figure fine.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 26, 2016 01:24 AM (rJUlF)


I remember those checks to those shakedown artists, and they were pretty big back then and there was no streaming at that time.

If those "artists" ever wonder where their royalties from those 3 go to, they should go visit their offices. The offices would make a "white shoe" law firm look like the Law Office of Jimmy McGill.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May 26, 2016 01:48 AM (1JnAL)

335 WHO WAS PHONE?!?!

Posted by: somebody had to do it at May 26, 2016 01:48 AM (H9MG5)

336 Speaking of bannination, I'm sure I've missed many explanations, but how does one acquire/use the "ignore" thinggy here?


Thinking of running it for a few days, see if the place is still worth reading (the chaos and gaps that result from "ignore" functions in highly interactive threads can leave them as incomprehensible as, say, ace's Twitter rant tonight).


But the performance of many regulars has become so depressing I thought I'd try it to salvage something from the comments.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2016 01:48 AM (QDnY+)

337 Isn't it the hashtag thingy that gets banned?


The first rule of hashtag ban club is, don't talk about hashtag ban club.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 26, 2016 01:49 AM (sl+zA)

338
btw, I've been having fun reading the comments at the NY Times on the IG's report. I sense a certain crumbling -- what you might call a falling away of support.

Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 01:50 AM (5o5ek)

339 318: Lightning protection is something of a black art.

There are actually two strategies. One is too bleed off ground charge before it builds up enough to make a ground streamer and attract a strike. Sharp point rods are good to do that. If you ever see corona around your lightning rods, while scary, it means they're doing that job of bleeding off charge.

THe other strategy is to just take the hit. Some lightning rods aren't really designed to do that. They can bleed, but they ain't gonna take a hit without being destroyed and letting what's underneath get whalloped pretty bad as well.

One rough method to design a protection system is the rolling sphere method. Consider the property, the buildings and structures you want to protect. Imagine the little charged ionized fingers coming down from the sky. You want your protection rods, the things that are gonna take the hit to be the ones that launch the streamers to meet those leaders coming down.

And so you choose a sphere of a certain radius based on the distance a leader will come down before a streamer reaches it, and then roll a sphere on paper all around and make sure you have rods and spires that will keep that rolling sphere from touching any of the structures you want to protect.

The method is well documented if you're interested.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 26, 2016 01:51 AM (DW+jj)

340 332 Isn't it the hashtag thingy that gets banned?

Just wondering 'cause I don't know squat about this subject.

Posted by: Blano at May 26, 2016 01:47 AM (XHyTv)



There's about 72 types of being banned, including one that was invented for Ira by Maet -- which is the reason he's not going to wheedle his way back onto the blog anytime soon.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 26, 2016 01:51 AM (EzgxV)

341 So, I gotta ask, did Maetenloch, dear Maetenloch get fired? Arrested? Called back to his home planet? What?

Posted by: NOT the German singer Heino at May 26, 2016 01:51 AM (U0oTh)

342 At what level of AoSHQ membership comes 'ignore privilege'?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 26, 2016 01:51 AM (kP16F)

343
336 Speaking of bannination, I'm sure I've missed many explanations, but how does one acquire/use the "ignore" thinggy here?


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There's no such thing, is there?

Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 01:52 AM (5o5ek)

344 Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 01:46 AM (5o5ek)

It's not the level of her reading which would be the problem. She's a well read, intelligent person. She just has no idea of the extent of Hillary's corruption (and I don't know if she'd believe it) because she only follows network news.

But i'll try.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2016 01:52 AM (rmw+9)

345 333 >> WTF happened? I don't care for kari, but, banned?

Chi, ace didn't specify a reason.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 26, 2016 01:53 AM (gyKtp)

346
341 So, I gotta ask, did Maetenloch, dear Maetenloch get fired? Arrested? Called back to his home planet? What?

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Trip to Japan. He should be back soon.

Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 01:53 AM (5o5ek)

347 Maetenlock-san is on a quest in Japan, IIRC...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 26, 2016 01:53 AM (kP16F)

348 These anti smoking commercials make me want to buy a pack of Winston's and I don't smoke.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 26, 2016 01:53 AM (NGd+i)

349 I almost envy my fallen comrades...

They don't have to witness what they died for.

Fuck the Army.

That was said frequently at the NCO club this evening.

The Army is losing a shitload of good NCOs, but I'm sure they'll be easily replaced...in a matter of years, maybe.

Considering the new ArmySec is queerer than a three dollar bill, I wouldn't hold y'all's breath.

War fighting: out

Diversity and LGBT sensitivity training: all in

Oh, the stories I heard tonight about "training the troops"

Basically, we're fucked.



Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 26, 2016 01:53 AM (rlfds)

350 Maetenloch had to go throw a ring in a volcano or some shit.

Posted by: eleven -- unenthused trumpchump at May 26, 2016 01:53 AM (qUNWi)

351 336 Speaking of bannination, I'm sure I've missed many explanations, but how does one acquire/use the "ignore" thinggy here?


Thinking of running it for a few days, see if the place is still worth reading (the chaos and gaps that result from "ignore" functions in highly interactive threads can leave them as incomprehensible as, say, ace's Twitter rant tonight).


But the performance of many regulars has become so depressing I thought I'd try it to salvage something from the comments.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2016 01:48 AM (QDnY+)



I got it from Merovign.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 26, 2016 01:53 AM (EzgxV)

352 iforgot, I've seen several people refer to their "ignore" script they use here.

cthulhu, you're computer-savvy, is there an ignore script one can use for these comment threads?

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2016 01:53 AM (QDnY+)

353
Chi, ace didn't specify a reason.

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Keep reading in that thread. You'll find the reason.

Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 01:54 AM (5o5ek)

354
352 iforgot, I've seen several people refer to their "ignore" script they use here.

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Aren't they being facetious?

Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 01:55 AM (5o5ek)

355 Yes. you can freeze eggs
With sufficient prep

http://preview.tinyurl.com/nonoc4b

Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2016 11:56 PM (ry34m)


Used to be a thing, you could preserve eggs with water glass. "Water glass" being a syrupy solution of sodium silicate sold for precisely that purpose. I remember seeing in grocery stores as a child.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 26, 2016 01:55 AM (35BaE)

356 As I start to wind down for the night...
Some YooToobishness for alla y'all's edutainment

Wow.. rejected as spam! What the?

Posted by: mindful webworker in state of denial at May 26, 2016 01:55 AM (rXkis)

357 321 So...Corey Feldman's going to start (maybe) naming names.

Anyone else get the feeling that's just him passing the hat for a little baksheesh? Kind of odd that for all of this feeling about how horrible the kiddie-diddling in Hollywood is, absolutely nothing ever comes of it.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at May 26, 2016 01:41 AM (ggtda)


Statute of limitations in California would be on the victims 26th birthday. If he names names know he would be sued for slander.

Remember, Hollywood is very much tied in with the power structure in government and the media. You don't fuck with them at all. Even Roman Polanski remains a free man in Europe today.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May 26, 2016 01:55 AM (1JnAL)

358 Sorry, Ghost, you and your phone seem to have been banned. From the thread below:

"70 phone of kari has been banned and will be banned in all future incarnations.
Posted by: ace at May 25, 2016 09:04 PM (dciA+)"

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 01:56 AM (6IPEM)

359 ❂ Captain America Goes SUPER GAY!!
Steven Crowder 6:09
https://youtu.be/v9JEBlfGZd4
Pretty fun one for Crowder

Posted by: mindful webworker tries again #3 at May 26, 2016 01:56 AM (rXkis)

360 The comment that got me banned was "Hillary Clinton should be put to mothereffin death." I thought that was a pretty innocuous and clearly not deadly serious way of encapsulating my feelings towards the old bag. I think I got caught in the glare of ace's animosity towards all of twitter.

He banned the hash on my phone (hence "Phone of kari"). Above (like at >325) you can find the hash for my PC. The hash attached to this comment is for my chromebook. My work computer is hash xuouz. Please do ban all of them.

Cheers guys, I will miss this place, and I'll totally still read it, but it's time for me to put all this energy into my own endeavors. Maybe I can even make a buck off it.

I'll miss voterma (the most), BurtTC, andycanuck, Fen, NaCLy Dog, redbanzai, grammie, Mort, rickl, rickb, the Tims, Weirddave, nevergiveup, jwest, Moo Moo, the Donnas, kbdabear, and many others who I'm forgetting. Even chemjeff and Pastafarian. Remember me to AmishDude if he ever comes back.

Donald Trump is gonna win whether you vote for him or not. Do try to enjoy the ride. I will see you all on the flip side.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 26, 2016 01:56 AM (wOKJp)

361 Aren't they being facetious?


No...there's a way to access an ignore function but I'm far too lazy to suss it out.

Posted by: eleven -- unenthused trumpchump at May 26, 2016 01:56 AM (qUNWi)

362 Okay, one at a time, then.

❂ Voting For The Boys
Wild Bill for America 5:19
https://youtu.be/C3MHIfe1XUQ
Trump, Bill says, for the military's sake

Posted by: mindful webworker in case of spam at May 26, 2016 01:56 AM (rXkis)

363 Re: Maetenloch.... Cool. Thx.
Btw, Corey Feldman is just suppressing Hollywood contributions to The Commie-Fag-Junkie party, aka Dem.-Commies.
Would you rear your head, ahem, by sending a contribution to the cause you really love almost as much as, well, rearing head, if there was a chance you indictment would cause voters/felons/illegals to stay home and drink the bong water on election day?
Naw, me neither.

Posted by: NOT the German singer Heino at May 26, 2016 01:56 AM (U0oTh)

364 Yes, sprites. I mentioned that way back, but not by name, which I couldn't remember. It is some interaction, still not understood, but now proved to exist between thunderclouds and lightning and the ionosphere.

They've even discovered that some lightning strikes or events in thunderclouds can generate *gamma rays*. They were dubious about this, but it's been proven to happen. And they still don't understand what process can get that energetic.

It's not a lot of them, of course, but gamma rays have been observed to be so generated.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 26, 2016 01:57 AM (DW+jj)

365 Merovign created an "ignore'" script a while back.
The only thing I know about it is that it's out there, and some are using it.
Probably on me.

But my hash changes at will (mobole). If it was an easy install on my phone, I would've installed it a long time ago.

Posted by: Chi at May 26, 2016 01:57 AM (YaSSM)

366
Bannination occurred for wishing/calling for death of a prominent public person who happens to have thick ankles according to what I've read.

Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 01:58 AM (5o5ek)

367 Maetenloch has been to Germany and Japan recently.

If he announces a trip to Italy, I'm building a bunker.

Posted by: what's that guy up to? at May 26, 2016 01:58 AM (vsLAs)

368 341 So, I gotta ask, did Maetenloch, dear Maetenloch get fired? Arrested? Called back to his home planet? What?

Posted by: NOT the German singer Heino at May 26, 2016 01:51 AM (U0oTh)



Frank-n-furter, it's all over -- your mission is a failure, your lifestyle's too extreme.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82-eFNdIlp0

Posted by: cthulhu at May 26, 2016 01:59 AM (EzgxV)

369 I see. It was the n-word variant, apparently.

❂ Can White People Say Niζζa?
Mark Dice 4:34
https://youtu.be/BAN841Apmd0
Unusually intelligent replies for Dice interviews

Posted by: mindful webworker in violation of Pixy at May 26, 2016 01:59 AM (rXkis)

370 Haven't heard much from Texas Instruments lately.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 26, 2016 12:01 AM (k4M/B)


I had a T.I. digital watch with a tritium capsule to backlight the display. The tritium capsule outlasted the watch, and I actually transferred it to a Brand X digital watch. And I had, even still have, a TI 994A calculator.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 26, 2016 01:59 AM (35BaE)

371
Oh no. I have to be up in 4 hours. Night, all.

Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 01:59 AM (5o5ek)

372 Posted by: NOT the German singer Heino at May 26, 2016 01:51 AM (U0oTh)

He's on a trip to Japan, I believe.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2016 02:00 AM (rmw+9)

373 IIRC, Grump928 also has that ignore script. Ask him for it if you see him again. He freely gives it out.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 02:02 AM (6IPEM)

374 349 I almost envy my fallen comrades...

They don't have to witness what they died for.

Fuck the Army.

That was said frequently at the NCO club this evening.

The Army is losing a shitload of good NCOs, but I'm sure they'll be easily replaced...in a matter of years, maybe.

Considering the new ArmySec is queerer than a three dollar bill, I wouldn't hold y'all's breath.

War fighting: out

Diversity and LGBT sensitivity training: all in

Oh, the stories I heard tonight about "training the troops"

Basically, we're fucked.



Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 26, 2016 01:53 AM (rlfds)



Your purpose is to be on the outside, with the American people, when the corrupt assholes in Washington pull everything down upon their heads. You need to look out for grandbabies, daughters, comrades-in-arms, and friends.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 26, 2016 02:02 AM (EzgxV)

375 352 iforgot, I've seen several people refer to their "ignore" script they use here.

cthulhu, you're computer-savvy, is there an ignore script one can use for these comment threads?

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2016 01:53 AM (QDnY+)



It exists, it's real, it works....and it riles people up. I got my copy from Merovign but eventually abandoned it.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 26, 2016 02:03 AM (EzgxV)

376 Speaking of lightning protection systems, there has always been a debate over whether the ground for that should be tied in with the power system ground system (which will be tied with phone and other ground systems at the main service).

There are pros and cons, but my opinion is they should not be. The damage that can be done there is great. Now, the problem is there can be enormous voltage between the lightning ground and the power system ground system during an "event". That risk is well outweighed by the other risks of tying them together in my opinion.

You will get arguments about this. And codes will differ. Codes will be damned as far as this is concerned with me. And they are ways to get special dispensation as well, if the local authority wants to be a bitch about it.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 26, 2016 02:05 AM (DW+jj)

377 365 Merovign created an "ignore'" script a while back.
The only thing I know about it is that it's out there, and some are using it.
Probably on me.

But my hash changes at will (mobole). If it was an easy install on my phone, I would've installed it a long time ago.

Posted by: Chi at May 26, 2016 01:57 AM (YaSSM)



It was created in the distant past. Merovign is merely the tender of the flame.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 26, 2016 02:06 AM (EzgxV)

378 Thanks, so it appears that Grump and Merovign are Keepers of the Holy Ignore Script.


As somebody else just said, I'm probably too lazy to actually seek it out and try to use it.


Scrolling down achieves the same purpose.


I use an ignore feature on the main gun nut forum I read, and it's actually worked out well. But different here. A few gaps caused by "ignore", and instead of reading a thread you're Cdr Rochefort at Station Hypo in Pearl Harbor trying to decipher the likely meaning of a few unknown elements in a Japanese naval message.


Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2016 02:06 AM (QDnY+)

379 *smiles at cooth*

Of course.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 26, 2016 02:06 AM (rlfds)

380 But different here. A few gaps caused by "ignore", and instead of reading a thread you're Cdr Rochefort at Station Hypo in Pearl Harbor trying to decipher the likely meaning of a few unknown elements in a Japanese naval message.

Posted by: rhomboid
--------------------
Heh.
I always thought just the opposite.
Like "General Hospital," I get the feeling that if I walked away for 17 months, I could come back & pick up where I left off. Somebody would still be pregnant, and MH & Elle would still be trying to catch up with the Moronimals pics.

Posted by: Chi at May 26, 2016 02:13 AM (YaSSM)

381 I gotta sleep soon, but though I might reiterate the excellence of flight radar 24 dot com for much pleasure. Where I live, we can hear the 'liners overhead most days, and I, personally, like to imagine a conversation with the CV's, cockpit victors: "What's your vector, Victor?"
Last night after work I heard one fairly tearing along, looked it up, and, behold! Turkish Airlines 777 at about 530 kts en route SFO to IST. Wow! Right above me!
Who buys a ticket like that? What I would pay to waterboard just 3 of the passengers!
Num 6,24-6

Posted by: NOT the German singer Heino at May 26, 2016 02:13 AM (U0oTh)

382 379 *smiles at cooth*

Of course.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 26, 2016 02:06 AM (rlfds)



There is no "of course" about it. The central government is going predatory, and people are going to find common-cause in other ways.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 26, 2016 02:17 AM (EzgxV)

383 Basically, we're fucked.



Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 26, 2016 01:53 AM (rlfds)

I feel really bad for the WW2, Korean, Vietnam vets etc. who have lived long enough to see this country turn into the shitshow it has become.

Like it was all for nothing.

Posted by: Blano at May 26, 2016 02:17 AM (XHyTv)

384 Well I think I had a minor breakthrough in my computations tonight.
It helps to actually read the papers before diving in to a line of inquiry

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 02:17 AM (uAvJJ)

385 It costs too much for alcohol
But it costs 'way more for pot,
or LSD, or cocaine,
especially if you're caught.

So if I have to pay for
some stuff to make me dumb,
I'll stay within the boundaries,
and just keep drinking rum.

Good night good hearted Morons. May the lightning strike far from you and yours.



When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew the governor of the feast called the bridegroom, and saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.

Posted by: mindful webworker in John 2:9-10 at May 26, 2016 02:20 AM (rXkis)

386 I always thought just the opposite.
Like "General Hospital," I get the feeling that if I walked away for 17 months, I could come back & pick up where I left off. Somebody would still be pregnant, and MH & Elle would still be trying to catch up with the Moronimals pics.
Posted by: Chi at May 26, 2016 02:13 AM (YaSSM)

Are Luke and Laura still on there?

Lawn.....you know the drill.

Posted by: Blano at May 26, 2016 02:20 AM (XHyTv)

387 And so you choose a sphere of a certain radius based on the distance a leader will come down before a streamer reaches it, and then roll a sphere on paper all around and make sure you have rods and spires that will keep that rolling sphere from touching any of the structures you want to protect.

The method is well documented if you're interested.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 26, 2016 01:51 AM (DW+jj)

Or, you could just move to Alaska where we don't have that shit to deal with. You could do that.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 26, 2016 02:20 AM (+YMhA)

388 Hi tcn, how are you doing

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 02:22 AM (uAvJJ)

389 Are Luke and Laura still on there?

Lawn.....you know the drill.
Posted by: Blano
-------------
Shit. That Christopher Cross song is stuck in my head now.
Take the trashcan out to the curb on your way off ...

Posted by: Chi at May 26, 2016 02:24 AM (YaSSM)

390 Chi of course you're right about some aspects of the threads. I was just referring to trying to follow particular exchanges, that might actually stray into substantive points or factoids.


But generally I've just lost interest in many of the threads. The one about NeverYouKnowWho by ace earlier was kind of a spectacle.


Favorite (because it was unintentionally hilarious) was the concern that YouKnowWho might "damage the GOP brand" so much that The Unthinkable became thinkable.


Some might observe that YouKnowWho actually getting the f***ing GOP nomination might, uh, you know, be a small indication that the GOP brand was *already* in trouble. With man of its own voters.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2016 02:25 AM (QDnY+)

391 Luke and Laura...


Just when I thought I was out they pull me back in .

Posted by: eleven -- unenthused trumpchump at May 26, 2016 02:26 AM (qUNWi)

392 383 Basically, we're fucked.



Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 26, 2016 01:53 AM (rlfds)

I feel really bad for the WW2, Korean, Vietnam vets etc. who have lived long enough to see this country turn into the shitshow it has become.

Like it was all for nothing.

Posted by: Blano at May 26, 2016 02:17 AM (XHyTv)



The loathsome progressive scumsuckers have tried their best to make it "all for nothing" -- but it wasn't. It was for the idea of America; it was for buddies in arms; it was for peace through strength; it was for honor and integrity; it was for making the world a better place.....and the fact that this was all pissed-away by the Democrats, with help from RINOs, should have every right-minded person oppose those Progressives and RINOs with every fiber of their being.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 26, 2016 02:28 AM (EzgxV)

393 Pretty much was for nothing, Blano...

Such is life.

Used to piss me off.

Now? *shrugs*

Well, it's past my bedtime and I have to rise and shine in a few hours.

Niters y'all.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 26, 2016 02:28 AM (rlfds)

394


Favorite (because it was unintentionally hilarious) was the concern
that YouKnowWho might "damage the GOP brand" so much that The
Unthinkable became thinkable.


Yes it is already damaged. And it could get even more damaged. One does not preclude the other.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 02:30 AM (uAvJJ)

395 You will get arguments about this. And codes will differ. Codes will be damned as far as this is concerned with me. And they are ways to get special dispensation as well, if the local authority wants to be a bitch about it.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 26, 2016 02:05 AM (DW+jj)


My lightning rods are grounded to their own dedicated ground rods, on all 4 buildings. I subscribe to the theory that the lightning rods enable excess charge to be led off via corona discharge, thereby preventing a lightning strike. But if lightning were to strike, the lightning rods would be the most probable path to ground, and even if the ground cables vaporized from the current, the plasma channel thus created will hopefully keep the bulk of the discharge current out of my buildings.


And, yes, there would be EM effects.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 26, 2016 02:31 AM (35BaE)

396 Just when I thought I was out they pull me back in .
Posted by: eleven -- unenthused trumpchump
-----------''------

Heh.
When did Reagan get shot?
I remember the day. Interrupted the soap. I used to get off the school bus & walk in the house just in time to watch GH with Dad. Tough as nails old Navy Master Chief - addicted to General Hospital.
People are weird.

Posted by: Chi at May 26, 2016 02:37 AM (YaSSM)

397 No, chemjeff. It's absurd to worry about "damage to the brand" (itself a very dubious concept to begin with) when the brand has immolated itself. Absurd as in funny, that's how absurd.


Not once or twice. Over the course of years. Winning - literally despite its attempt to avoid having any particular program - two of the most sweeping electoral victories in all US history (2010 and 2014).


But as that thread and others the last few months have illustrated, the country is in trouble not just because of the clueless, tribalistic, self-absorbed and impractical "liberals", but their shockingly large counter-parts on the "conservative" side.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2016 02:37 AM (QDnY+)

398 'Night SMFH, take care.

Posted by: Blano at May 26, 2016 02:37 AM (XHyTv)

399 >>>It astounds me that some people can just part their lips and that kind of a sound emanates from their pie hole.

It astounds me the kind of sound that emanates from mine, when I part my cheeks.


Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 26, 2016 02:39 AM (WxY7/)

400 And on that note, I'm out. Maybe tomorrow will be better.

'Night all.

Posted by: Blano at May 26, 2016 02:40 AM (XHyTv)

401 Yes, that Tesla Model S driver would be culpable were it not for the fact that he was...
stationary at the time the photo was taken! LeStrade, I accuse you of handing out false tickets in order to reach your quota.

Posted by: Sherlock Holmes at May 26, 2016 02:42 AM (WxY7/)

402 Well, night all. Bed time for me. I don't think Ghost of Kari's bannination is kosher. Basically, he called for her to be executed, presumably for treason. Unsaid, but implicit in his post, is "after due process". Not all that different from the sentiment, "she deserves nothing more than a cigarette and a blindfold", which has been expressed here on numerous occasions. Again, due process implied, if not explicitly stated.


Of course, I am a stickler for proper use of the term "execution" meaning a lawful homicide of an evil-doer, after due process having been observed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 26, 2016 02:43 AM (35BaE)

403 That's very kind, Chi, but I did not invent it, just a few updates a while ago.

http://userscripts-mirror.org/scripts/show/142617

There is a much easier to find ignore script (INCIF) that in my experience does not work as well.

This is the old one (the only link I have and it's not editable).

Which means that you have to manually change references of "minx.cc" to "acecomments.mu.nu"

And, if you are so equipped, any other changes you desire.

In theory I don't like the idea, it does tend to fragment comments. It works better when it's just a few people, but Dipshit Season (the primary) has bloated my list.

And some people change hashes a lot.

Ultimately, at best, it accomplishes the same thing as people separating into narrower and narrower interest groups, but I don't have the answer to that problem (in its context) either.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 26, 2016 02:44 AM (wB8Tg)

404 This book I'm reading is so poorly written, it's work to get through it, but at least it's short. History of the New Guinea campaign (at least the US part of it). Quite jarring after the last book, well written and well edited.


But I'll power through it and hope the next one (history of submarine operations in the Pacific) is better.


And the 150 rounds of 30-06 I finished after a busy day also took their toll in fatigue and focus. So bis morgen fruh, or not so fruh, depending on time zone.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2016 02:44 AM (QDnY+)

405 Hay fever has been moving in over the last few days....must be that globull warmening.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 26, 2016 02:45 AM (EzgxV)

406 Merovign, Dipshit Season, I like that one.


In my case it wasn't the "new names" that caused me to think about ignore, but mostly regulars who derailed or showed their limitations to the point that skipping them seemed a reasonable approach.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2016 02:47 AM (QDnY+)

407 Where I live, we can hear the 'liners overhead most days, and I,
personally, like to imagine a conversation with the CV's, cockpit
victors: "What's your vector, Victor?"


liveatc.net

Type in your local airport code.

I routinely fall asleep to this "white noise" of calm professionals going through established routines.

Posted by: good night, Speedbird Heavy at May 26, 2016 02:48 AM (vsLAs)

408 In my case it wasn't the "new names" that caused me to think about ignore, but mostly regulars who derailed or showed their limitations to the point that skipping them seemed a reasonable approach.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2016 02:47 AM (QDnY+) fnord (QDnY+)


I have a large list.

It's depressing.

I often joke that if I had my own blog, I'd probably be the only person allowed to comment there within a month.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 26, 2016 02:51 AM (wB8Tg)

409 >>>Adele has a new song out and I was hooked less than halfway through my first listen.


I-I-I-I-I fiiiind Peale appalliiiinn'!

And I-I-I-I-I fiiiind Paul a-ppealin'!!!

Thank you, thankyouvurrahmuch!

I'll be running third party Thursdays, November 5th.

Posted by: Adele Lai Stevenson at May 26, 2016 02:52 AM (WxY7/)

410 Heh.
When did Reagan get shot?
I remember the day. Interrupted the soap. I used to get off the school bus & walk in the house just in time to watch GH with Dad. Tough as nails old Navy Master Chief - addicted to General Hospital.
People are weird.


I got sucked in to the L&L and I swear I have no idea how it happened.

Posted by: eleven -- unenthused trumpchump at May 26, 2016 02:53 AM (qUNWi)

411 I mean Tuesdays, November 8th.

Posted by: Adele Lai Stevenson at May 26, 2016 02:54 AM (WxY7/)

412 Speaking of Adele, this is quite entertaining.

That was really cool.

I'm not the hugest fan of her music, but she is quite the hottie.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2016 03:00 AM (sdi6R)

413 Shit! It's Columbo'clock already? I should be asleep.

405 Hay fever has been moving in over the last few days....must be that globull warmening.
Posted by: cthulhu


Ugh. Don't bring that up, please. Even worse? Hey fever. Now that it stopped raining, everyone is outside like Ned Flanders...

Posted by: Chi at May 26, 2016 03:00 AM (YaSSM)

414 No, chemjeff. It's absurd to worry about "damage to the brand" (itself a
very dubious concept to begin with) when the brand has immolated
itself. Absurd as in funny, that's how absurd.



Well we may be talking about two different things. This is what I am talking about.


What has differentiated American conservative parties from European conservative parties in the past is that European conservative parties tend to accept the premise of the welfare state, and just want to be better managers of it. By contrast, American conservative parties (and I include Libertarians in there broadly speaking) don't merely want to audition to be better managers of the welfare state, but to actually have an argument over the proper role that government should have in things like welfare. Instead of "can government perform this task better and more efficiently", the argument is "should government even be doing this task in the first place". And that has been a really healthy argument to have I think, because the desire to just have more efficient government leads to greater and greater usurpations of liberty that get lost along the way.


Now I will admit that conservatives have been losing this argument for a while now, partly because Republican politicians have not fought as hard as they should have against big-government schemes, or even foolishly agreed with them themselves, and partly because the allure of Uncle Sugar handing out candy is quite appealing and has seduced a large portion of the electorate. But at least there was still a vehicle for fighting government excess and actually reducing the size and scope of government in our lives, even if that vehicle performed very imperfectly.


With Trumpism, I think it is just a final concession that the argument is over and we lost. It's the final transformation of the Republican party into the more European version of a conservative party, and to abandon the arguments about bigger/smaller government and just make the Leviathan work better by "making great deals".


So when *I* refer to "damage the GOP brand" I was referring to this, at least the perception among conservatives that it was a place that could be employed at least to some degree to fight against ever-expanding government. Now, people like me who genuinely want smaller government really have nowhere to go. (The Libertarians are sadly just about as big of a joke this year as the Republicans are.)

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 03:02 AM (uAvJJ)

415 I got sucked in to the L&L and I swear I have no idea how it happened.
Posted by: eleven
------------------
Life happened.
You were sixteen, and Laura was hot.

Posted by: Chi at May 26, 2016 03:02 AM (YaSSM)

416 Hi Chi, how is your roommate situation working out?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 03:07 AM (uAvJJ)

417 >>>Well, night all. Bed time for me. I don't think Ghost of Kari's bannination is kosher. Basically, he called for her to be executed, presumably for treason.

More judicious would be to say, "such-and-so is a traitor, and they deserve to be treated like one".

Posted by: Adele Lai Stevenson at May 26, 2016 03:09 AM (WxY7/)

418 Last night I was posting a bunch of links to Bob Dylan performances in honor of his 75th birthday.

I also found this. It's gospel singer Regina McCrary talking about her experiences recording "Slow Train Coming" and accompanying him with his 1979 concerts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7Yqj-QzwZE

It has more to do with Christianity than with Dylan, but both Christians and Dylan fans should find it interesting. Personally, I found it riveting.

Do watch it all the way to the end, because there's a neat twist.

Posted by: rickl at May 26, 2016 03:13 AM (sdi6R)

419 Hey Fever

Hi Fever

Ho Fever

Hello Fever

Posted by: eleven -- unenthused trumpchump at May 26, 2016 03:14 AM (qUNWi)

420 Hey, Chemchef.

Thanks for asking - surprised anyone remembered.
Overall , not bad. Always late, of course, but I expected no less.
Yardwork help is appreciated, and knocks a bit off the bill.
I get a good laugh almost daily (the guy would make the world's worst burglar! A trail of breadcrumbs type of burglar), so there's that.

Posted by: Chi at May 26, 2016 03:16 AM (YaSSM)

421 Night all.

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 26, 2016 03:27 AM (Z8xbi)

422 Chi, I am glad it is working out at least somewhat.
I was very worried that he would turn into a deadbeat, or worse, some type of thug.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 03:28 AM (uAvJJ)

423 I do always love when Ace gets into mommy's "Private water bottle" and then goes on twitter to make people cry. Today was an exceptional day, and I can only assume many right wing bloggers are spending the night talking to their therapy pillows.

Posted by: Rbastid at May 26, 2016 03:35 AM (XwTyM)

424 https://youtu.be/wzZcBceUZJw

https://youtu.be/JhrtFieP5NM

Posted by: Puddleglum playin' some ZZ Top at May 26, 2016 04:20 AM (NGd+i)

425 Good morning horde

Monaco Grand Prix free practice is this morning, the only Thursday practice on the schedule.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2016 04:23 AM (3wHFl)

426 Good Morning Everyone. Been up for about two hours and still have the early morning stares. I have no will power to do much else.

Hows about you?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 04:29 AM (WVsWD)

427 Haven't slept yet AGAIN.
I'll go make the coffee and tea.

Oh yeah, good morning lurkers and Tim and Skip.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 04:34 AM (6IPEM)

428 Good Morning Elle. Beat you to the Coffee. Too bad I have to wait for it to cool down before drinking. I'm too poor to sue myself.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 04:38 AM (WVsWD)

429 Wait, it can't be morning yet, it's still dark out

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 04:42 AM (uAvJJ)

430 How are you this morning L,elle, Tim, Skip?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 04:43 AM (uAvJJ)

431 Hey Tim. What are you doing awake at this ungodly hour?

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 04:43 AM (6IPEM)

432 I'm wide awake at 3 in the morning, chemj. I guess I've become a nocturnal creature somewhere along the way. I've kind of gotten used to it so it's not so bad anymore.

School out yet for you? Are you teaching this summer?

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 04:46 AM (6IPEM)

433 Ok here, going to mid 80's again so they can say May was the hottest month ever.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2016 04:47 AM (3wHFl)

434 Sore. Very sore. Too much exercise. If I had a real job, I would take a half-day.

Need to make a trip to the scrap yard though. Not much room left on the trailer.

What are doing up so late? Or is it so early?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 04:47 AM (WVsWD)

435 L,Elle, I am a bit nocturnal now too it seems, yeah no school for me this summer. No teaching this summer either, which is nice. First time in 2 years I don't have summer school. I get to finish up lots of small projects. I really do need to get more serious about budgeting my time. As usual it tends to get frittered away doing stupid stuff, oh well.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 04:49 AM (uAvJJ)

436 I'll be heading to work within a half hour.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2016 04:50 AM (3wHFl)

437 Tim, sorry you are so sore. I was up working on some computations. I had a bit of an epiphany last night, hopefully this new direction will lead to what I am looking for. I just submitted the last one and that will take a while to run so I am probably going to try to go to bed.

What is at the scrap yard?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 04:51 AM (uAvJJ)

438 So when *I* refer to "damage the GOP brand" I was
referring to this, at least the perception among conservatives that it
was a place that could be employed at least to some degree to fight
against ever-expanding government. Now, people like me who genuinely
want smaller government really have nowhere to go. (The Libertarians are
sadly just about as big of a joke this year as the Republicans are.)


Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 03:02 AM (uAvJJ)


We don't have a small government solution in this cycle. I hate that, but hating it isn't going to change it, and it's not likely that we're going to have any other options but the ones before us. Of them, Hillary is the absolute worst that could happen: A continuation of Obama's policies wedded to a callous disregard for everything that does not advance the cause of the corrupt Clinton machine. We can be 100% certain that this ramshackle Republic of ours would not long endure her assaults on it.

As I said in the previous thread, this makes it not a "vote for" kind of election, but a "vote against" type. You can't possibly get any worse than Hillary, short of Satan himself crawling up out of Hell and entering the race. (With this year's farcical election so far, that wouldn't shock me at this point.)

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 26, 2016 04:52 AM (J+mig)

439 Jeff, If I may, forget the time budget. Classify instead. Will this project hurt me if it never gets done? If it won't hurt me, the priority needs to take a hit.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 04:52 AM (WVsWD)

440 >>>> What are doing up so late? Or is it so early?
------
Early or late, I can't tell the difference anymore honestly. Bad, bad insomnia lately. Ace's return to Twitter rant kept
me amused for a while and then I got caught up on all the blog posts and links. I've been listening to music for the last hour or so.

Anything fun planned for today? What are you eating for breakfast besides coffee?

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 04:54 AM (6IPEM)

441 "What is at the scrap yard?"

Last couple of weeks been doing some Urban Mining with three of my Kids. We have a load of aluminum cans ready to go.

I'm hoping for at least 500 pounds. We have been working around U of I and ISU in Bloomington. This year seemed to be better than last.

I guess Recycle Center is a better word?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 04:57 AM (WVsWD)

442 Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 04:57 AM (WVsWD)
***
Urban mining....

Country boys trap and sell the furs, or hire themselves out to shoot feral hogs and the like.

City boys have their own ways of earning money, too.

Betcha it's a lot of work, and that the cash, while nice, isn't the only reward.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2016 04:59 AM (lutOX)

443 "Anything fun planned for today?"

I wouldn't call reloading the trailer for the next trip "fun" but my Son in Law already offered to do it. Watching someone else work is "fun"

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 05:00 AM (WVsWD)

444 >>>>
We don't have a small government solution in this cycle. I hate that, but hating it isn't going to change it, and it's not likely that we're going to have any other options but the ones before us. Of them, Hillary is the absolute worst that could happen.
-------
What Cato said. I gave up on any realistic small govt option after watching Boehner, McConnell, and now Ryan at work. The size of govt has no possibility of being reduced anytime soon with both parties in collusion. My expectations have been reduced to a near minimum with me voting for who will make things not worse.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 05:01 AM (6IPEM)

445 Oatmeal (instant this week, had 5 min last) 2 pieces Cinnamon and raisin toast, 2 cups of coffee. Pop tart break and OHIO around 9

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2016 05:02 AM (3wHFl)

446 Tim, that sounds like a lot of hard work.
Is this your main business?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 05:02 AM (uAvJJ)

447 "Betcha it's a lot of work, and that the cash, while nice, isn't the only reward."

We are out in the boonies. Nearest small town is 8 miles away. Bloomington is 40 and Champaign/Urbana is about 70.

About 20K students at U of I. Not sure about ISU. 10K maybe? They throw away everything. Especially the Chinese Kids who can't take much home.

You name it we find it. Even money. So far around $75.00 just in change. It helps to have fearless Kids who have no problem jumping up into a garbage dumpster.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 05:04 AM (WVsWD)

448 Regarding the Army recruitment story: If you find a wallet on the street, you should give it back to the person that dropped it. You should not cheat or steal. Doing the right thing is the right thing to do. It makes me feel kind of sick that those boys sold themselves out just because it was easy to do.

Posted by: goon at May 26, 2016 05:06 AM (WCaSy)

449 Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 05:04 AM (WVsWD)
****
Yep...college towns provide rich, rich seams for the urban prospector.

And, yeah, the internationals leave more or less everything behind. And they tend to have the good stuff.

'Curb-shopping,' we called it in my day, when every young dandy had an onion tied to his belt, as was the fashion at the time.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2016 05:07 AM (lutOX)

450 "Is this your main business?"

No, I am a Farmer. Of sorts. Leasing my land outright this year to a company that grows Heritage Seeds. I will also get a small % of the profits and when harvest time comes, all the Fruit and Veggies are mine after processing to remove the seeds.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 05:07 AM (WVsWD)

451 " when every young dandy had an onion tied to his belt, as was the fashion at the time."

If you aint got 5 Bees for a quarter, My lawn, off it, please.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 05:09 AM (WVsWD)

452 Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 05:07 AM (WVsWD)
***
Smaht....wicked smaht....

Good for you, friend, and, no, I don't want a case of quart jars full of squash, thank you.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2016 05:09 AM (lutOX)

453 Skip, that's an impressive breakfast. I just have tea, ocassionally one poached or scrambled egg if I'm actually hungry. I love eggs. I can't live without them.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 05:10 AM (6IPEM)

454 I don't do Twitter at all so I am kind of lost to what Ace is responding to.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 05:10 AM (WVsWD)

455 If you aint got 5 Bees for a quarter, My lawn, off it, please.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 05:09 AM (WVsWD)
***
Loved his stories....had relatives from the old country and the older generation who told stories no less baffling than Grandpa Simpson....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2016 05:11 AM (lutOX)

456 "Good for you, friend, and, no, I don't want a case of quart jars full of squash, thank you."

Everything will be canned. No jars and most of it gets donated to various Churches.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 05:13 AM (WVsWD)

457 >>>> You name it we find it. Even money. So far around $75.00 just in change. It helps to have fearless Kids who have no problem jumping up into a garbage dumpster.
-----
I like your kids already. Morons in training, no doubt.
Good job, dad!

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 05:14 AM (6IPEM)

458 I'm so old my memory is slipping. What was Shelbyville called back in those days?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 05:15 AM (WVsWD)

459 Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 05:13 AM (WVsWD)
***
Wow! A tin-canner, eh?

But without the empty quart mason jars, where do you keep your 'shine?

And without the little pint jars, what do you drink it out of? (WV raised, and it shows....)

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2016 05:16 AM (lutOX)

460 Tim, Ace's Twitter rant was a continuation of his blog post about #NeverTrump-ers stopping their campaign of claiming to be true conservatives who either are willing to vote for Hilary or not vote at all.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 05:17 AM (6IPEM)

461 458 I'm so old my memory is slipping. What was Shelbyville called back in those days?


Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 05:15 AM (WVsWD)
***
Morganville. had to catch the ferry to get there. now, the ferry to Shelbyville cost a nickel.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2016 05:18 AM (lutOX)

462 Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 05:17 AM (6IPEM)

They are certainly free to support or not support whoever. I am also free to ignore them.

Have I ever told you about the time I was hired to break this strike at a nuke plant?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 05:19 AM (WVsWD)

463 Loved that episode. Way back when The Simpsons was still funny.

Morganville!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 05:20 AM (WVsWD)

464 >>>Have I ever told you about the time I was hired to break this strike at a nuke plant?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 05:19 AM
-----
No! Please, do tell! That sounds exciting and interesting. I wanna know.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 05:24 AM (6IPEM)

465 Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 05:24 AM (6IPEM)

First off, you need a Onion and a Belt to tie it to. After you have done that we can talk.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 05:31 AM (WVsWD)

466 Okay, I need to confess and get off all your lawns. I don't get so many of the references and jokes here like the onion belt. I'm guessing that's like a tin foil hat thingy.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 05:37 AM (6IPEM)

467 I think I will go ahead and post news links now. A few minutes isn't going to make much difference.


Good Morning Morons. Today is Thursday, May 26, 2016. On this day in 1998 the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that Ellis Island, the historic gateway for millions of immigrants, is mainly in the state of New Jersey, not New York. This was truly and utterly BS because the original lease and purchase of the island was made by a New Yorker operating out of NY. But since the federal government completely took it over it doesn't really make much difference.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 05:40 AM (vvmPQ)

468 RIP Beth Howland from Alice at 74 from lung cancer.


http://lat.ms/1WPvMi2

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 05:40 AM (vvmPQ)

469 Assholes in the Navy are now saying "American Sniper's" DD-214 is inaccurate and he did not win the awards that he said he did in his book which matches the DD-214. So which one is really the accurate one Mr Navy asshole? The DD-214 is a legal document.


http://bit.ly/1Vje0mj

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 05:41 AM (vvmPQ)

470 Union thugs shutdown access to McDonald's headquarters with their phony $15/hour wage demand. In reality they don't give a shit about McDonald's wages. The entire effort is to get automatic government employee wage increases based on the minimum wage. This because the federal government does not negotiate with their own money, which is why it was illegal to have government worker unions in the first place. A rule that was abolished by commie Democrats.


http://trib.in/1WkV0oI

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 05:41 AM (vvmPQ)

471 The government is throwing a billions of dollars trying to keep ancient computer systems operating. But can they replace them without throwing another billion dollars away? Probably not.


http://fxn.ws/1OYUKJx

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 05:41 AM (vvmPQ)

472 Another case of ABC talking head editing video to suit their liberal makers surfaces. In this case a Katy Couric interview of a gun rights group is edited to make them look stupid. This is the same shit they did to Sarah Palin and the same shit I personally saw done by 60 minutes in a show they did about construction of an IL power plant.


http://fxn.ws/1OYVI8C

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 05:41 AM (vvmPQ)

473 That corrupt Baltimore AG trying to prosecute the cops in the Freddie Grey case now has her own civil suit to worry about.


Two Baltimore police officers facing criminal charges in the death of a young black man whose neck was broken in the back of a police van have sued the city's top prosecutor and an official in the sheriff's office for defamation.


http://fxn.ws/1sbI5Jb

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 05:42 AM (vvmPQ)

474 Yuuuge public outcry in that small GA town I linked yesterday who had pulled down the crosses erected to honor the 79 veterans from the town who had been killed results in the town putting the crosses back up.


http://fxn.ws/1Wknhvw

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 05:42 AM (vvmPQ)

475 In case you missed it yesterday afternoon 11 other States have now initiated a civil suit against Obama for his illegal bathroom orders.


http://fxn.ws/1WVgid1

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 05:42 AM (vvmPQ)

476 Pharaoh choom set to release 24 more worst of the worst terrorists from GITMO. If he wants to close GITMO he should just use his pen and phone to execute the rest of the crap that is there. He will not do that though, he is a muzzie himself who wants to destroy the US.


http://fxn.ws/1WkXCCU

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 05:43 AM (vvmPQ)

477 Nikki Haley has signed a bill in SC that bans abortions after 20 weeks.


The only exceptions are if the mother's life is in jeopardy or a doctor determines the fetus can't survive outside the womb.


Notice that it is life in jeopardy and not the infamous "health of the mother". I suspect that this bill be challenged just about as soon as government subsidized PP can get a case.


http://fxn.ws/1TBxzqL

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 05:43 AM (vvmPQ)

478 A PI involved in the Casey Anthony case makes some pretty flamboyant statements.


http://fxn.ws/1WjIyp5

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 05:43 AM (vvmPQ)

479 The House oversight panel wants a criminal investigation of the disappeared federal money in establishing an OR Obamacare site. Of course the corrupt Democrats blame a big company instead of a Democrat who allegedly used the money for political purposes.


http://fxn.ws/1WVhE7N

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 05:44 AM (vvmPQ)

480 Gee, liberals sure hate it if a video gets released of their criminal conduct.


Hillary Clinton's former chief of staff, Cheryl Mills, is asking a federal judge to order a conservative group not to release audio or video recordings of a deposition Mills is scheduled to give Friday about Clinton's use of a private email server during her tenure as secretary of state.


They sure do not mind it when the MFM attacks conservative groups with distorted edited videos.


http://politi.co/1TAz9nx

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 05:44 AM (vvmPQ)

481 I can't believe Time is reporting this. The corrupt VA governor invited a Chinese national to Scankles' home. The Chinese man later donated to his campaign and gave Scankles money for her sham charity. Note that it is illegal for foreign nationals to make political contributions to US politicians.


http://ti.me/1RrV0ew

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 05:44 AM (vvmPQ)

482 WZ shows a group of Whoreywood libtards who supported Venezuela's move to communism and who now support Krazy Kommie Bernie.


http://bit.ly/1TLaDn7

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 05:45 AM (vvmPQ)

483 The RNCe shits on us again by blocking an amendment that would force the Army to quit recruiting illegals for enlistment.


http://bit.ly/1TBlA7l

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 05:45 AM (vvmPQ)

484 Heritage says the PR bill is not a "good deal" for conservatives. I guess they have read the bill. Republicans didn't, or they simply do not give a shit for their base.


http://dailysign.al/25j2NVL

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 05:46 AM (vvmPQ)

485 Investigators find that < 4% of the money spent on the AGW science by the government is actually spent on real science.


http://bit.ly/20EOZS1

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 05:46 AM (vvmPQ)

486 Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 05:37 AM (6IPEM)

One minute video to start:

https://youtu.be/-o-7MmhqNfA

Covers the "onion on my belt" reference

Posted by: Abe Simpson at May 26, 2016 05:46 AM (n9LsX)

487 Ramirez


http://bit.ly/1qd89lF


That's it for today folks.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 05:46 AM (vvmPQ)

488 Should have just jumped to bottom of page to begin with instead of reading the first hundred or so.
Gonna make second cup and be back for just a bit.
Figured fair warning was the right thing to do.

Posted by: teej at May 26, 2016 05:49 AM (oScPm)

489 "The RNCe shits on us again..........................."

Save that line. You will be in great need of it during the next six months.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 05:52 AM (WVsWD)

490 Thanks Tim. That's exactly why I don't get so many references from this place. I stopped watching TV and most movies about 10 yrs ago. I haven't seen most of the Moron favorites like Animal House, Caddyshack, blazing Saddles, etc. I also really hate most cartoons.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 05:52 AM (6IPEM)

491 Oh wait, not thanks Tim.
Thanks to the sock Abe Simpson who posted the explanation video about the onion belt.

Hi teej! Good morning. Guess what? Ace might be willing to vote for Trump. Wut????

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 05:55 AM (6IPEM)

492 Well I'll be damned. I didn't know Jose Canseco had a daughter!

NSFW

http://tinyurl.com/j3wu6x9

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 26, 2016 05:57 AM (ns1FV)

493 That was Palpatine that sent you the link. That episode has got be over 20 years old by now.

I too no longer participate in the "entertain me!" frenzy.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 05:58 AM (WVsWD)

494 Hello young lady.
Yeah, I was that. Not suprised in the least.
I'll leave out why.

Posted by: teej at May 26, 2016 05:59 AM (oScPm)

495
damn, Twitter is hard to read.

Morning 'rons.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 26, 2016 05:59 AM (BH8wL)

496 saw that.
Well you're used to my keyboard screw ups.

Posted by: teej at May 26, 2016 06:00 AM (oScPm)

497 484
Heritage says the PR bill is not a "good deal" for conservatives. I
guess they have read the bill. Republicans didn't, or they simply do not
give a shit for their base.


http://dailysign.al/25j2NVL



Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 05:46 AM (vvmPQ)

In fairness, the Heritage article didn't actually say that the PR bill is not a "good deal for conservatives". They correctly note that it isn't as conservative as it could be, which is true, it's a compromise bill.
I would also point out that one of the things that Heritage wants for PR, an exemption from the Jones Act, stands in contrast to Trump's protectionist message.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 06:01 AM (uAvJJ)

498 But at least we're beyond the nonsense rumor that the bill is a "bailout" for PR.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 06:04 AM (uAvJJ)

499 HI L'Elle,

You're up early!

Yeah I bailed out on last night's thread when chemjeff and the #nevertrumpers began their usual demands for teh evil Trumpkins/Trumpists/Trumptards to provide incontrovertible mathematical proof of their obsessive and virtue-based opinion.

"Prove to me that I am not crazy", the lunatic repeated for hours.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 26, 2016 06:05 AM (BH8wL)

500 Well, that's my que.
Have a good day folks.

Posted by: teej at May 26, 2016 06:06 AM (oScPm)

501 * disproving their obsessive and virtue-based opinion.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 26, 2016 06:08 AM (BH8wL)

502 Ahh, thanks Palpatine for the instructional, educational video.
Tim, tell me the story sometime. I'm going to try the whole sleeping thing after this comment that all that rest of you weirdos do when you're supposed to be awake with me. I finally feel a little sleepy. Wish me luck.

Teej, write me why. I'd love to hear what you think on the subject. I hope you have a great day.

All of you.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 06:09 AM (6IPEM)

503 In fairness, the Heritage article didn't actually
say that the PR bill is not a "good deal for conservatives". They
correctly note that it isn't as conservative as it could be, which is
true, it's a compromise bill.
I would also point out that one of the
things that Heritage wants for PR, an exemption from the Jones Act,
stands in contrast to Trump's protectionist message.


Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 06:01 AM (uAvJJ)

I don't give a shit what Trump wants. Heritage says the bill sells out the creditor's legal rights. And the title of the article is:

Congress's Puerto Rico Bill Is Not a Conservative Win
Sounds like that is what they said to me.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 06:10 AM (vvmPQ)

504 Yeah I bailed out on last night's thread when chemjeff and the
#nevertrumpers began their usual demands for teh evil
Trumpkins/Trumpists/Trumptards to provide incontrovertible mathematical
proof of their obsessive and virtue-based opinion.



Oh FFS. For once I would like the "Trumpists" (as you call them) to actually take a look at REALITY when it comes to who Trump really is and what he really supports. I see all sorts of nonsense about Trump going to "blow up DC" or that Trump is going to start firing people left and right in the bureaucracy when there is precious little evidence that that is the man that he really is. There is a whole lot of wishcasting going on here and it would be nice if the Cult of Trump would descend back down into reality from time to time.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 06:13 AM (uAvJJ)

505 Tim,

When the Simpsons were still funny

Fatherly advice to Bart - -



"Never, ever try. "

Homer J. Simpson

Posted by: Mortimer at May 26, 2016 06:13 AM (BH8wL)

506 Timbo, what did you raise when you farmed?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 26, 2016 06:13 AM (xltdJ)

507 Oh, and don't go jumping on the "no bailout" shit. The bill supposedly gives them the same ability to file for federal money the States have; IOW just like the CA bailout where Obama bought (and is still illegally buying) CA's worthless bonds.


And since RINO Ryan hasn't even read the bill there may be all kinds of shit in it,

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 06:13 AM (vvmPQ)

508 Nikki Haley has signed a bill in SC that bans abortions after 20 weeks.


The only exceptions are if the mother's life is in jeopardy or a doctor determines the fetus can't survive outside the womb.


Notice that it is life in jeopardy and not the infamous "health of the mother". I suspect that this bill be challenged just about as soon as government subsidized PP can get a case.


http://fxn.ws/1TBxzqL
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party


I thought only crazy SOCONs like the Cuuch supported stuff like this?

Posted by: Dole & Kemp at May 26, 2016 06:13 AM (Doh4+)

509 /ignore insane user script activate

Posted by: Mortimer at May 26, 2016 06:14 AM (BH8wL)

510 Barring any convention rules changes, Trump will be the nominee. Now if the repus want to commit suicide and go with a brokering, fine let it be so.

It will be the end of the not so Grand Old Party. Good by to bad rubbish.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 06:14 AM (WVsWD)

511 Good Morning Mortimer. Not up early. Never slept. I'm going to try to now. Wish me luck. I actually need to get stuff done tomorrow and be productive.

I knew Ace would come around eventually once Trump started attacking Hitlery and being reminded how evil and horrible a candidate she is.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 06:15 AM (6IPEM)

512 Adele has a new song out and I was hooked less than halfway through my first listen.

Yes, very good song. Love her.

Send my love to your new lover
Treat her better
We've gotta let go of all of our ghosts
We both know we ain't kids no more
Send my love to your new lover
Treat her better
We gotta let go of all of our ghosts
We both know we ain't kids no more


amen to that

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 06:15 AM (qCMvj)

513 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 26, 2016 06:16 AM (ptqRm)

514 509
/ignore insane user script activate


Posted by: Mortimer at May 26, 2016 06:14 AM (BH8wL)

Sounds like your script isn't working if you feel the need to bash me in an unrelated thread.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 06:17 AM (uAvJJ)

515 Twitter makes you do work to figure out what's going on and when you finally do it's some silly nonsense.


It's like an ugly chick with an attitude.

Posted by: eleven -- unenthused trumpchump at May 26, 2016 06:17 AM (qUNWi)

516 "It will be the end of the not so Grand Old Party. Good by to bad rubbish."



Yeah, if they pull that shit, it will be.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 26, 2016 06:17 AM (xltdJ)

517 RK, Corn, Alfalfa, Wheat, Oats, were the main crops. That was while my Dad was still alive. I didn't take over the Farm until after after all my brothers and sisters passed on it.

I lucked out getting hitched to the people who lease my land. Heritage seeds aren't to popular with people like Monsanto and the like.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 06:18 AM (WVsWD)

518 Sorry to hear it L'Elle.

Did you ever try melatonin?

That stuff is magic for me.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 26, 2016 06:18 AM (BH8wL)

519 If we got all this Hillary e-mail info dumped on us this early in the week, I can't wait till the Friday News Dump, and see what the MSM puts up around 4:00PM on the Friday of Memorial Day weekend.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 26, 2016 06:18 AM (ptqRm)

520 Before we start another flame war here over Trump I need to go do my morning chores and I also need to mow some grass weeds. May be back later.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 06:19 AM (vvmPQ)

521 "Corn, Alfalfa, Wheat, Oats, were the main crops."

What colors you run?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 26, 2016 06:19 AM (xltdJ)

522 er 6:09
https://youtu.be/v9JEBlfGZd4
Pretty fun one for Crowder
Posted by: mindful webworker tries again #3 at May 26, 2016 01:56 AM (rXkis)


Crowder's great.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 06:19 AM (qCMvj)

523 I wonder what it is like to be so absolutely convinced of the rightness of your own narcissistic , obsessive opinions that you can never be convinced that you may in fact be completely wrong?

Posted by: Mortimer at May 26, 2016 06:21 AM (BH8wL)

524 Just read Mona Charen's column on why she's with Hillary:

Because Repubs in Congress would let Trump have his way on everything, but they would-get this-unite together to stop everything a President Clinton would try to do.

I can't even find the words...

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 26, 2016 06:21 AM (WlGX+)

525 Yeah, Mortimer, so far all pills that help with insomnia have had the same reaction. They give me psychotic nightmares. I'd rather stay awake and listen to music and read stuff on the internets than endure torturous bad dreams. If I can get at least 4-5 hours in the early morning, I'm okay for the rest of the day. Don't worry, but thanks for worrying and your concern. It's nice.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 06:22 AM (6IPEM)

526 What colors you run?

Not green nor yellow nor red. I have two old A-C's that are mostly rust colored now. I do believe they were both orange back in the day.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 06:23 AM (WVsWD)

527 #523

This is the right place to ask.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 26, 2016 06:23 AM (xltdJ)

528 Posted by: Mortimer at May 26, 2016 06:18 AM (BH8wL)

Melatonin is a godsend for me as well. Cheap, over the counter, none of the side effects of the prescription stuff. I just need to make absolutely sure I can devote a full 8 hours to sleep, or I do experience some morning grogginess.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 26, 2016 06:24 AM (WlGX+)

529 I've recently discovered that anti-histamines work incredibly well as sleeping pills.

Posted by: eleven -- unenthused trumpchump at May 26, 2016 06:24 AM (qUNWi)

530 Some people need invented and exaggerated monsters to target in order to cover for deep insecurity. That's understandable.

What ace said last night was when the line gets crossed and suddenly "only the truly virtuous hold my opinion, and the rest are eee-vil and stoo - pid".

That is the definition of an impenetrable mind.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 26, 2016 06:25 AM (BH8wL)

531 "I have two old A-C's that are mostly rust colored now. I do believe they were both orange back in the day. "



DUDE!

I love Allis's. Orange-belly? Black-Belly?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 26, 2016 06:26 AM (xltdJ)

532 RK. I grew up in an Old Order Mennonite Family. The tractors came to me when I helped tear out some old buildings for a Neighbor. We grew up harvesting by hand. Long, hard work for me and my brothers.

Worth it though, when you look back on life.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 06:26 AM (WVsWD)

533 >>>> Just read Mona Charen's column on why she's with Hillary:
Because Repubs in Congress would let Trump have his way on everything, but they would-get this-unite together to stop everything a President Clinton would try to do.
-------
This is the idiocy twisted logic Ace was ranting at on Twitter. I mean, come on.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 06:27 AM (6IPEM)

534
Congress's Puerto Rico Bill Is Not a Conservative Win
Sounds like that is what they said to me.




Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 06:10 AM (vvmPQ)

Not a conservative win? Sure, of course not. It is a compromise bill.
Could it still be a "good deal" for conservatives, considering the entire range of possibilities? I think the answer to that could still be yes.
507
Oh, and don't go jumping on the "no bailout" shit. The bill supposedly
gives them the same ability to file for federal money the States have;
IOW just like the CA bailout where Obama bought (and is still illegally
buying) CA's worthless bonds.

Are you referring to the Build America Bonds scheme in the 2009 stimulus bill? That has long since expired.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 06:27 AM (uAvJJ)

535

heh, Ace's twitter rant

love it when he does that

fun read

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 06:27 AM (qCMvj)

536 Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 06:26 AM (WVsWD)
***
Dude!

You are equipped by birth and training for the Burning Times!

Promise me you'll go full-Lord Humungus, or perhaps even Immortan Joe (I'd make an excellent Bullet Farmer, btw), comes the time.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2016 06:29 AM (lutOX)

537 Ace's Twitter was a fun read for a while, but the Twitter format gives me a headache after a while. The layout just sucks, IMHO.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 26, 2016 06:29 AM (WlGX+)

538 What are YOU, artisanal, having for breakfast? It must be something exquisite and sublime.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 06:30 AM (6IPEM)

539
This is the idiocy twisted logic Ace was ranting at on Twitter. I mean, come on.

Only the self-convinced 'truly virtuous' can make pretzel logic at that level.


Seriously, pick up some melatonin. Great stuff.



Posted by: Mortimer at May 26, 2016 06:30 AM (BH8wL)

540 I've got a screaming case of jock itch.

Posted by: Hillary "Felon" Clinton at May 26, 2016 06:31 AM (22uju)

541 " RK. I grew up in an Old Order Mennonite Family. "

No kidding. What's that like? Not to sound ignorant......

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 26, 2016 06:32 AM (xltdJ)

542 You can see spots of faded orange on the Bellies. One is a 62 and the other is a 66.

Not much HP but good enough for what I need. Right now I have zero need.

Gott Sei Dank.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 06:32 AM (WVsWD)

543 What are YOU, artisanal, having for breakfast? It must be something exquisite and sublime.
Posted by: L, Elle at May 26, 2016 06:30 AM (6IPEM)


ha!

99% of the time, it's just a yogurt. So pretty boring.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 06:33 AM (qCMvj)

544 No you're exactly right Mortimer. I must be just full of impenetrable obsessive virtue-signaling when I point out that Trump changes his mind on important issues, sometimes several times in the same day, and so when someone says "But, Trump said that he would do X" is not a terribly credible demonstration of Trump's actual *commitment* to doing X.


Yeah, just obsessive closed-mindedness would point that out, I suppose

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 06:33 AM (uAvJJ)

545 IF Hillary is unspeakably evil, what then #NeverTrumpers is Trump? It's a terrible election, I grant you that, and we have to choose between a vain idiot with the hugest chips all over his shoulders and a known felon who thinks it's more important to keep her emails from government records storage (and the public) than from every foreign government with a cyber capability. That can only be because her interests and their interests coincide far more often than her interests and Americas interests.

I think of this election as between a nasty small minded man who the press will hound for the rest of his days and an army of weapons-grade Lois Lerners who will be free (finally!) to torture her many enemies endlessly and harshly. Easy call for me, but YMMV.

Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 06:34 AM (/m8T6)

546 Sing, Brother Heckler!
Sing, Brother Koch!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd8s8jJeYeA

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2016 06:34 AM (lutOX)

547 " I've got a screaming case of jock itch."

Could be fleas.

From a thousand camels.


Just sayin'

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 26, 2016 06:34 AM (ptqRm)

548 "Good Morning Morons. Today is Thursday, May
26, 2016. On this day in 1998 the Supreme Court of the United States
ruled that Ellis Island, the historic gateway for millions of
immigrants, is mainly in the state of New Jersey, not New York. This was
truly and utterly BS because the original lease and purchase of the
island was made by a New Yorker operating out of NY. But since the
federal government completely took it over it doesn't really make much
difference.



Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 05:40 AM (vvmPQ)"


Since an olympic class jumper could probably leap across the narrow strip of water between Ellis Island and Liberty Park in Jersey City, that court decision makes a lot of sense. Just because New Yorkers own a lot of condos in Florida does not mean that Andrew Cuomo is governor over those bits of real estate.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 26, 2016 06:34 AM (QHgTq)

549 Ace's Twitter was a fun read for a while, but the Twitter format gives me a headache after a while. The layout just sucks, IMHO.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 26, 2016 06:29 AM (WlGX+)


agree, but when it's Ace, I just can't stop reading it, lol

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 06:34 AM (qCMvj)

550 "No kidding. What's that like?"

Think Amish. Hint. When I turned 17, I left the farm and joined the Army.

The horizon called and my feet got itchy. I just had to know. I could not help myself.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 06:36 AM (WVsWD)

551 Ace's Twitter was a fun read for a while, but the Twitter format gives me a headache after a while. The layout just sucks,


A button that allows you to "Convert Twitter conversation to chronologically ordered text " would be an awesome app.

Is there such a thing?

Posted by: Mortimer at May 26, 2016 06:37 AM (BH8wL)

552 You can see spots of faded orange on the Bellies. One is a 62 and the other is a 66. "

Well, that vintage should be orange. These must be the square Allis's.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 26, 2016 06:38 AM (xltdJ)

553 It was fun though for a Kid to watch a SFC twist himself into knots what to do with a potential recruit who had no birth certificate and a Baptismal dated a week before he showed up at the Office.

He got me in though. Was a tough time to meet quotas back in 82.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 06:38 AM (WVsWD)

554 "If Hillary Clinton is president, a united Republican party will oppose her. Assuming Republican control of the House, she will not be able to pass a single piece of liberal legislation."

-Mona Charen, reporting from her alternate universe.



Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 26, 2016 06:39 AM (WlGX+)

555 I think of this election as between a nasty small minded man who the press will hound for the rest of his days and an army of weapons-grade Lois Lerners who will be free (finally!) to torture her many enemies endlessly and harshly. Easy call for me, but YMMV.
Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 06:34 AM (/m8T6)


People were asking yesterday how anyone would know if Trump "loves America."

I was thinking about this this morning.

He's been threatening to run for potus forever. Every election, he talked about how bad the country was being run, and he "threatened" to run, etc.

Well, he put his money where his mouth is. And his safety and the safety of his family.

And even though I was all in for Cruz, I do think Trump loves the country and will try to fix some of what is wrong.

Who knows. He's on another planet, but who knows. We all know the consequences of good intentions some times.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 06:40 AM (qCMvj)

556 540 I've got a screaming case of jock itch.

Tough Actin' Tinactin.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 26, 2016 06:40 AM (WlGX+)

557 I think I'm gonna buy the Poulan from Home Depot. If I can convince myself to spend the money.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 26, 2016 06:41 AM (xltdJ)

558 Well I read Mona Charen's column, since WhatWhatWhat pointed it out.

Here it is, in case you are interested: http://tinyurl.com/jebyv2l

I think she overstates how much a Republican Congress would oppose a President Clinton, for sure. There is too much reach-arounding and Paul Ryan seems a little bit too naive for the job that he has.

But I did think this part of her column seemed noteworthy:


If Donald Trump is president, by contrast,
there will be no united opposition among Republicans. As we've seen in
the past few weeks, the urge to bend the knee is very strong. How much
more intense will it be if he sits in the Oval Office? Republicans will
actively assist President Trump in undermining conservatism. From
entitlements to trade to NATO to nuclear proliferation to universal
health care to abortion, President Trump will get a free hand. He thus
has it within his power to sabotage the whole conservative enterprise.



She exaggerates, of course, but not too much. I don't think the same Congressional Republicans who would waffle and compromise with a President Clinton, would be firm and resolute in opposing a President Trump were he to actually try some of his more terrible ideas.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 06:41 AM (uAvJJ)

559 How many people can say the very first thing they ever drove was a self propelled howitzer?

I still smile at that thought, don't ask me why.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 06:43 AM (WVsWD)

560 Many of us know Commander Salamander, and his writings at his blog.

He also writes over at USNI.

And I find it interesting that we never heard about the Pakistani radical efforts to take over a national worship, and use it to attack a US Navy vessel.


https://blog.usni.org/2016/05/25/red-october-meets-mirror-mirror

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 26, 2016 06:43 AM (ptqRm)

561

Too many mosquitoes to sit outside this morning. sad

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 06:43 AM (qCMvj)

562 Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 06:33 AM (uAvJJ)
***
Here's my take on it all, and one I'm sure others have offered:

With Abuela Borracha, we have a pretty fair idea of the sort of things she'd like to get done, and how she'd go about doing them, and none of them are the sorts of things we'd like to see. That is, she's a known quantity - she's a nightmare for sure, and she makes no attempt to conceal that.

Golden Hair Weasel, by contrast, certainly has not given tongue to sentiments - lapped up by an adoring and eager fan-base - or proposals at all suggestive that he views the American people as a problem to be solved, or as malefactors to be punished.

People always talk about 'the 80 percent solution' - Trump's not even that, sad to say. But he's a candidate with an excellent shot at election who is NOT explicitly and wholly committed to expanding and perpetuating the atrocities of the SCOAMF.

Damning with faint praise, I know.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2016 06:43 AM (lutOX)

563 "524
Just read Mona Charen's column on why she's with Hillary:



Because Repubs in Congress would let Trump have his way on
everything, but they would-get this-unite together to stop everything a
President Clinton would try to do.



I can't even find the words...





Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 26, 2016 06:21 AM (WlGX+)"

I can sort of buy the "I'm too morally pure for Trump" argument, although I think it is kind of pretentious, but this is just 200 proof stupid.

Mona Charen's reputation is yet another casualty of this election season.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 26, 2016 06:45 AM (QHgTq)

564 And even though I was all in for Cruz, I do think Trump loves the country and will try to fix some of what is wrong.



Who knows. He's on another planet, but who knows. We all know the consequences of good intentions some times.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 06:40 AM (qCMvj)


Same here. And when push comes to shove, I'd rather have a flaky, weird reality TV personality with a golden head weasel who loves this country than give the keys to Clinton, whose hatred for America and everything it has ever stood for is a matter of historical record at this point.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 26, 2016 06:45 AM (J+mig)

565 RK, rider or push?

I want a hand push mower for the yard. Have you seen the prices for a good new one? Wow.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 06:45 AM (WVsWD)

566
Yeah I bailed out on last night's thread when chemjeff and the #nevertrumpers began their usual demands for teh evil Trumpkins/Trumpists/Trumptards to provide incontrovertible mathematical proof of their obsessive and virtue-based opinion.


I don't comment on the HQ in the late afternoon or overnight. Taking a quick scan of the never Trump and the Hillary posts confirms me in that decision. Holy hell, but some people are absolute bat-shit crazy around here.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 26, 2016 06:46 AM (X6fMO)

567

Recorded the Jimmy Kimmel show to see what Trump said.

Boy, Kimmel lost a lot of weight.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 06:46 AM (qCMvj)

568 Posted by: artisanal 'ette

I would think that a lot of people are tired of being lied to by "Mr. Right" Republican politicians only to be dumped like yesterday's garbage once said politician gets elected. Over and over and over and over...

Apparently that is not the case for some who enjoy being wined and dined before being used and abused.

Me? I am ready to accept a little uncertainty rather than be promised the moon, then handed a pile of sh*t yet again and told that it is chocolate candy, no really!

Posted by: Mortimer at May 26, 2016 06:46 AM (BH8wL)

569 I wasn't too morally pure for mittens. Why should I be for Trump?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 06:46 AM (WVsWD)

570 He thus
has it within his power to sabotage the whole conservative enterprise.

--
LOL.

Posted by: @votermom at May 26, 2016 06:48 AM (7lVbc)

571 Hillary/Walker 2016!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 26, 2016 06:48 AM (ptqRm)

572 " RK, rider or push? "



Rider. For push, I guessing $200.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 26, 2016 06:49 AM (xltdJ)

573

heh the whole kimmel show is about trump almost

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 06:50 AM (qCMvj)

574 Me? I am ready to accept a little uncertainty rather than be promised the moon, then handed a pile of sh*t yet again and told that it is chocolate candy, no really!

Posted by: Mortimer at May 26, 2016 06:46 AM (BH8wL)

I did that when my preferred guy. Walker, dropped out then shit all over Trump in the process.

Been on the Train ever since. Ride it to the end of the line.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 06:51 AM (WVsWD)

575 Republicans will actively assist President Trump in undermining conservatism.

So. Business as usual, then.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 26, 2016 06:51 AM (BH8wL)

576 Whew, it's not jock itch it's stubble burn. Huma has a bit of a stubble going on. Think it's a muslim brotherhood thing.

Posted by: Hillary "Felon" Clinton at May 26, 2016 06:52 AM (22uju)

577 So I found put today from all the media wailing that the Hulk Hogan lawsuit against Gawker was / is financed by Silicon Valley billionaire Peter Thiel.
Who is also a Trump delegate.
Oh the tears and lamentations are a balm to my shriveled heart.

Posted by: @votermom at May 26, 2016 06:52 AM (7lVbc)

578 With a President Trump I think you get what you see today, very reluctant GOP support from Congress and a wary speaker constantly looking to limit the damage. That's far better than what we have today, a GOP Congress trying to make deals with Progressives, thereby in the process enabling all sorts of anti-Constitutional stuff.

Mona Charen has gone completely off the rails, IMO and has her arguments reversed.

As far as "loving America" goes 'ette, I think Trump very visibly revels in being an American every minute he's alive. He's constantly disparaging England, Scotland, Mexico, most of mainland Europe and probably all of Asia for basically not being American enough. Of all the #NeverTrump criticisms this is one I don't get at all.

Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 06:52 AM (/m8T6)

579 my preferred guy. Walker


He was my guy too.

I thought he had some real potential. Damn shame.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 26, 2016 06:52 AM (BH8wL)

580

boohoogles of PR for Trump going on Kimmel

he can be funny and handle the humor
new voters?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 06:53 AM (qCMvj)

581 "She exaggerates, of course, but not too much. I
don't think the same Congressional Republicans who would waffle and
compromise with a President Clinton, would be firm and resolute in
opposing a President Trump were he to actually try some of his more
terrible ideas.


Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 06:41 AM (uAvJJ)"

Looking for the silver lining in the unconstitutional impulses of a President Trump, I see the possibility of Democrats experiencing the sort of weaponized government from the receiving end as a motivation for them to want to prevent anybody from doing it. This is a feeling that they will never know if all they have ever encountered have been decent Republicans with a deep respect for the Constitution and the limits it imposes on the executive branch.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 26, 2016 06:53 AM (QHgTq)

582 Dr. Jill, where did you put the paste? What do you mean we are out? What the hell? Guess I'll have to be satisfied with just licking the windows this morning.

Posted by: Joey Biden at May 26, 2016 06:56 AM (22uju)

583 That NYT article about Hillary's e-mails?


http://tinyurl.com/zll5tkh


It's pretty clear in the comments that some liberals will defend any action,along as it supports the liberal agenda.

I honestly think that Hillary could be filmed live selling body parts from still living black fetuses, and some liberal would come back with the rejoinder that Trump called somebody a bad name.

And wants to steal your kidneys.


So Vote Hillary 2016.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 26, 2016 06:57 AM (ptqRm)

584 I can sort of buy the "I'm too morally pure for Trump" argument, although I think it is kind of pretentious, but this is just 200 proof stupid

I am morally conflicted voting for Trump in the same way that I am morally conflicted having my husband leave his family to serve people who think Bernie is a okay, and Hillary would make a great President. It really hurts to do it these days. Against my better judgement, I will vote for the guy. I sucked it up and voted for McCain and Romney.

Posted by: no good deed at May 26, 2016 06:57 AM (9nt94)

585 We've been conned by these so-called CONservatives.

What have they done for us - given away our manufacturing jobs because eggheads declare "free trade" demands it.
Allowed the spying on every individual for "security".
Assisted Obama's agenda because they might be called racists.
Bent the knee at every turn while their hands receive payoffs.

The founding fathers risked their lives, their fortunes, their sacred honor, for freedom.
They won't risk being disinvited to cocktail parties.

Posted by: @votermom at May 26, 2016 06:57 AM (7lVbc)

586 "Believe me, if Trump tanks in the polls, or if some really terrible info comes out about him (which I think is fairly likely),"

Sorry Ace but your predictions about Trump have not panned out yet. I think the next one to prove true will be, well the first?????????

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 06:57 AM (WVsWD)

587 I think making sense of #NeverTrump depends on where your perception of the trouble we are in begins.

If you think Obama/Progressives are evil and Thank God We Have Ryan/McConnell and the Congressional GOP!, then you worry hard about the undermining of Republican virtues from Trump populism.

If, on the other hand, you think Ryan/McConnell and the Congressional GOP are prison-worthy in any rational universe, because they've been legislative handmaidens to an imperial President, then Trump populism is lots better than marrying an incredibly weak-minded GOP Congress to a devious Clinton Crime Lord.

Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 06:59 AM (/m8T6)

588 Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 26, 2016 06:53 AM (QHgTq)
***
I can sympathize with that perspective, but I think those days are long gone, friend.

We're post-constitutional, and have been for a long time now, and I don't see a sudden upsurge in genuine support for the principles of a constitutional republic in the near or even distant future.

No, we're at the pay-back stage now - lots of people want the apparatus of the State, turned for many's the year now against them and their way of life, to go to work on wrecking their enemies. Simple as that.

and this is normal and wholesome and healthy, and necessary, if one looks at the history of republics.

Nothing ever lasts forever.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2016 06:59 AM (lutOX)

589 That NYT article about Hillary's e-mails?

Wow, they waited all the way until the second paragraph to get to the meat of the problem "it gives republicans fodder." I hate those shitheels.

Posted by: no good deed at May 26, 2016 07:00 AM (9nt94)

590 With Abuela Borracha, we have a pretty fair idea of the sort of things
she'd like to get done, and how she'd go about doing them, and none of
them are the sorts of things we'd like to see. That is, she's a known
quantity - she's a nightmare for sure, and she makes no attempt to
conceal that.



Golden Hair Weasel, by contrast, certainly has not given tongue to
sentiments - lapped up by an adoring and eager fan-base - or proposals
at all suggestive that he views the American people as a problem to be
solved, or as malefactors to be punished.



Sure, I've heard that same sentiment expressed here.

David French a NeverTrumper had a response to this line of reasoning which I thought was noteworthy:

http://tinyurl.com/hfccgah

His basic point is that, sure, there is a chance that Trump will do the "right thing", but there is also a chance that Trump will do the "wrong thing", such as, oh I don't know, actually withdrawing from NATO or ordering the military to commit war crimes.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 07:00 AM (uAvJJ)

591 Obamas are going to live THREE YEARS in DC after he leaves office

He will comment on everything the next president does. They are NEVER going away

Posted by: ThunderB at May 26, 2016 07:01 AM (zOTsN)

592 The military would not comply with an order to commit war crimes. They aren't robots. Fuck you

Posted by: ThunderB at May 26, 2016 07:02 AM (zOTsN)

593 We're post-constitutional, and have been for a long time now, and I
don't see a sudden upsurge in genuine support for the principles of a
constitutional republic in the near or even distant future.


"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams


The majority of Americans are neither.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 26, 2016 07:03 AM (BH8wL)

594 Morning all

Fredo campaigning for the FAB overseas by knocking Trump. What a low class asshole.

And all the trolls and wolf in sheep clothing democrats came out yesterday

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 07:03 AM (g31NN)

595 "Against my better judgement, I will vote for the guy. I sucked it up and voted for McCain and Romney.

Posted by: no good deed at May 26, 2016 06:57 AM (9nt94)"

The most irritating thing to me about the #nevertrump movement is the large number of participants who urged sucking it up and voting for McCain. The same arguments apply here, especially the ones about getting past the butthurt of a favorite primary candidate losing to someone who is way less qualified to be President.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 26, 2016 07:04 AM (QHgTq)

596 He will comment on everything the next president does. They are NEVER going away

Posted by: ThunderB at May 26, 2016 07:01 AM (zOTsN)
---------------------------------------------------

I think it depends on how time he has available between depositions.

Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 07:05 AM (/m8T6)

597 Also TFG really hates Trump. It's a nice to have that it gets under his skin every time Trump wins.

Posted by: @votermom at May 26, 2016 07:05 AM (7lVbc)

598 Seriously


Fucki off with the war crimes thing. Do you think the military doesn't advise the president too?

They just stand around being told what to do, and do everything they are told like war crimes


Fuck

Off

Go to DU

Posted by: ThunderB at May 26, 2016 07:05 AM (zOTsN)

599 The most irritating thing to me about the #nevertrump movement is the large number of participants who urged sucking it up and voting for McCain. The same arguments apply here, especially the ones about getting past the butthurt of a favorite primary candidate losing to someone who is way less qualified to be President.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 26, 2016 07:04 AM (QHgTq)

+++++

NeverTRump = Democrats
Democrats = Liberals
Liberals = Two faced lyings sacks of shit

When you deconstruct it, it all makes sense

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 26, 2016 07:06 AM (r4VQU)

600 593 Posted by: Mortimer at May 26, 2016 07:03 AM (BH8wL)
--------------------------------------------------

This is where I am too.

Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 07:06 AM (/m8T6)

601 592
The military would not comply with an order to commit war crimes. They aren't robots. Fuck you

Posted by: ThunderB at May 26, 2016 07:02 AM (zOTsN)

I did not say that they would OBEY illegal orders. I don't want the CiC to be GIVING illegal orders either.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 07:06 AM (uAvJJ)

602 Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 07:00 AM (uAvJJ)
****
Indeed, there's always the chance Trump will do something awful.

Hillary, by contrast, has promised to do all manner of terribly destructive things, and has a track-record suggesting she's not only willing and able, but even eager, to do them.

So the choice becomes - a possible blunderer, or a guaranteed criminal.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2016 07:07 AM (lutOX)

603 You are a moron and not in the good way right now


Presidents have asked the mitary all kinds of things. If they are illegal the military tells him that. End of story

Get out of the faculty lounge

Posted by: ThunderB at May 26, 2016 07:08 AM (zOTsN)

604 It's not criminal if you don't get charged with a crime.

Posted by: Hillary "Felon" Clinton at May 26, 2016 07:09 AM (22uju)

605
I did not say that they would OBEY illegal orders. I don't want the CiC to be GIVING illegal orders either.


A little too late for that.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 26, 2016 07:09 AM (X6fMO)

606 ThunderB, did you read what I wrote at 601? I did not say that the military would obey illegal orders. I don't want the commander in chief to be giving illegal orders either, especially not blatantly illegal ones.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 07:09 AM (uAvJJ)

607 Morning, all!

Anyone mention the latest on the Milo DuPaul speech protest?
The second "protester" who rushed the stage and swung at him is Kayla Johnson, and - get this - the daughter of Juanita Johnson, who serves as the Chicago Police Department's Director of Administration. Guess that's why the police didn't do anything.

Oh wait --- they did do something: they arrested the guy who was invited there to film the speech, despite him having permission to do so by the school the college Republicans group who put on the speech.

This is Obama's America.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2016 07:09 AM (NOIQH)

608 The military would not comply with an order to commit war crimes. They aren't robots. Fuck you

____

"The Military" isn't going to have to obey an order. A human will have to obey an order. And humans often do shit you don't think humans would ever do. Because the choice will be

a) listen to my superior and do what he says
b) destroy my career, possibly go to prison for dioberying orders, my life is ruined

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 26, 2016 07:10 AM (r4VQU)

609 Trump is the nominee. We either come to grips with that fact, or start wearing Vote Hillary buttons.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 26, 2016 07:10 AM (ns1FV)

610 601 Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 07:06 AM (uAvJJ)
------------------------------------

Now, this is just dumb. Hillary orders "illegal" with her morning vodka and juice. This is the woman who actually ordered an innocent Copt imprisoned to dress up her "it was a video!" lie. He. Went. To. Jail.

And that's the beginning. She has no compunction at all about "illegal". So don't start getting nutty about what might be, as compared to what actually is.

Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 07:10 AM (/m8T6)

611 Fuck Off moo moo. You don't know own what you are talking about

Posted by: ThunderB at May 26, 2016 07:10 AM (zOTsN)

612 GOP Congress, Pentagon Accelerate Recruitment of Illegals As Military Shrinks

Doing the jobs Americans won't do.

Thanks, W.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 26, 2016 07:11 AM (BH8wL)

613 'mornin.

Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2016 07:11 AM (6xtq3)

614 Sanders aides pledge to push Democratic party away from Israel

Sanders representatives chosen to help draft party platform demand Democratic Party use clout to pursue 'justice for Palestinians'.


But yeah let's help the never trump assholes elected a democrat...what could possibly go wrong

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 07:11 AM (g31NN)

615 607 This is Obama's America.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2016 07:09 AM (NOIQH)
---------------------------------------------------

and Hillary's too.

Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 07:12 AM (/m8T6)

616 Oh wait --- they did do something: they arrested the guy who was invited there to film the speech, despite him having permission to do so by the school the college Republicans group who put on the speech.

This is Obama's America.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2016 07:09 AM (NOIQH)


what?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 07:12 AM (qCMvj)

617 "The Military" isn't going to have to obey an order. A human will have to obey an order. And humans often do shit you don't think humans would ever do. Because the choice will be

a) listen to my superior and do what he says
b) destroy my career, possibly go to prison for dioberying orders, my life is ruined
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 26, 2016 07:10 AM (r4VQU)

???

You ever serve?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 07:12 AM (g31NN)

618 Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 07:06 AM (uAvJJ)
***
To clarify, then:

The possibility of Trump giving illegal orders under some hypothetical scenario is sufficient grounds for full-throated opposition to the man, and simultaneously suggests that the creature who, if Trump does not prevail, will almost certainly do all in her power to undermine whatever is worth saving of this nation, our laws, and our way of life, and who willingly lit the match that burned down a good chunk of the political order of the Arab mid-east, might not be the worst alternative.

Is this what you mean? That boogey-man arguments about what Golden Hair Weasel MIGHT do carry more weight than a documented history of criminality and dictatorial abuse of the powers of the State?

And if you say they carry equal weight, then you're diminishing the actual damage she's done already.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2016 07:13 AM (lutOX)

619 Presidents ask all kinds of things. If they are not wise or God forbid illegal they are told that. The military has a say. This is so much stupid. Chem Jeff and Moo. Fuck right off right now

Posted by: ThunderB at May 26, 2016 07:13 AM (zOTsN)

620 I do believe the war crimes thing was brought up in response to Trump saying that he would go after the families of terrorists.

You need to read the Geneva Conventions on the Laws of war. When a civilian gives any kind of aid to terrorist, their protection under those laws is forfieted.

Aid can include a phone call by a terrorist asking mommy if it is safe to come home and she answers. Storing your AK in a mosque for safe keeping.

Those places are now valid military targets. Do not believe me, go read them yourself.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 07:13 AM (WVsWD)

621 GOP Congress, Pentagon Accelerate Recruitment of Illegals As Military Shrinks

Doing the jobs Americans won't do.

Thanks, W.
Posted by: Mortimer at May 26, 2016 07:11 AM (BH8wL)


Actually that is not true..the only reason the Military is shrinking is because the left wing is cutting it. There are plenty of AMERICANS ready and willing to serve who are not be allowed because of budget cuts

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 07:14 AM (g31NN)

622 I wish there were some evidence of past behavior which might give us some insight into Hillary Clinton's moral compass.

Something, anything..
Little clues.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 26, 2016 07:14 AM (ptqRm)

623 I don't want the commander in chief to be giving illegal orders either, especially not blatantly illegal ones.
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 07:09 AM (uAvJJ)
***
Better keep Hillary out of the White House, then.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2016 07:15 AM (lutOX)

624 Chermjeff is now accusing the Military of something? Gee another reason to take a few bites out of his left wing ass

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 07:15 AM (g31NN)

625 "588
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 26, 2016 06:53 AM (QHgTq)

***

I can sympathize with that perspective, but I think those days are long gone, friend.



We're post-constitutional, and have been for a long time now, and I
don't see a sudden upsurge in genuine support for the principles of a
constitutional republic in the near or even distant future.



No, we're at the pay-back stage now - lots of people want the
apparatus of the State, turned for many's the year now against them and
their way of life, to go to work on wrecking their enemies. Simple as
that.



and this is normal and wholesome and healthy, and necessary, if one looks at the history of republics.



Nothing ever lasts forever.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2016 06:59 AM (lutOX)"

Until now, Democrats have seen no downside to violating the Constitution because they got the benefits of doing so without suffering the consequences. The Constitution is a pretty good set of rules for allowing people with serious disagreements to live together without killing each other. Democrats generally do not appreciate that because they have not had to face the reality of life without anybody following the rules.


Yes, there is a strong desire for payback. There is also a nostalgia for the days when both sides generally played by the rules. I don't really know what way it will work out in the end and, to be honest I am not that optimistic.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 26, 2016 07:15 AM (QHgTq)

626 And if David French thinks that he can go suckered a bag of dicks

Posted by: ThunderB at May 26, 2016 07:17 AM (zOTsN)

627 You ever serve?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 07:12 AM (g31NN)

---

Fuck no.

Morning' y'all.

Damn T-storms rumbling through the AO disturbed my rest.

After all the wonderful news about the Army, VA, and general clusterfuckery, I'm in a fine mood.

Hell, I may just vote Trump just for shits and giggles.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 26, 2016 07:18 AM (rlfds)

628 My phone. Any way

The military has their own legal advisors you stupid fuck


Stop taking everything you know about the military from an Oliver Stone movie

Posted by: ThunderB at May 26, 2016 07:18 AM (zOTsN)

629 NGU,

the only reason the Military is shrinking is because the left wing is
cutting it. There are plenty of AMERICANS ready and willing to serve who
are not be allowed because of budget cuts


The nominally right-wing GOP-controlled House controls the purse strings. Just want to make sure that gets in there.

George was a good guy, but like his brother , had a blind spot when it came to immigration.

Most of the recent immigration floods are a direct result of Bush and then Barky continuing to implement Clinton's wide open let-em-all-in immigration policies.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 26, 2016 07:19 AM (BH8wL)

630 The military is going to be asked to commit war crimes if Trump is president. Hell they might even commit them?




Fuck

Off

Posted by: ThunderB at May 26, 2016 07:20 AM (zOTsN)

631 "621
GOP Congress, Pentagon Accelerate Recruitment of Illegals As Military Shrinks



Doing the jobs Americans won't do.



Thanks, W.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 26, 2016 07:11 AM (BH8wL)





Actually that is not true..the only reason the Military is shrinking
is because the left wing is cutting it. There are plenty of AMERICANS
ready and willing to serve who are not be allowed because of budget cuts

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 07:14 AM (g31NN)"


I suspect that the "jobs Americans won't do" anticipated for the military is to shoot their fellow Americans for resisting the unconstitutional excesses of a left wing President.

Not a problem for a predominantly foreign born military force.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 26, 2016 07:20 AM (QHgTq)

632 And FTR I am not accusing the military of anything. I would hope and expect that they would refuse to obey any illegal order. So go take your meds NGU

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 07:21 AM (uAvJJ)

633

Just finished watching the Trump/Kimmel gig. Trump did very well. He's relaxed in that atmosphere.

Kimmel slyly mocked him by "writing a sequel" to another Kimmel made up Trump children's book (reads like Dr. Seuss).

Trump laughed and took it graciously.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 07:22 AM (qCMvj)

634 "A reporter attempting to capture footage of Milo Yiannopoulos' event that was cut short at DuPaul University in Chicago was arrestedand jailed for the night after refusing to stop filming....

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zo9d7az

freakin' Chicago

Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2016 07:22 AM (NOIQH)

635 Not a problem for a predominantly foreign born military force.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 26, 2016 07:20 AM (QHgTq)
***
Amazing, the way people ignore history....

NEVER, EVER, EVER have a 'foreign legion' stationed on your own soil.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2016 07:22 AM (lutOX)

636 By the way the same families are always serving in the Military. The people I serve with, by and large, they serve, their parents served, their grandparents served, their siblings serve, and their kids serve. And they are all DAMN PROUD of that. And they take care about the Military more than any left wing asshole and do everything they can every fuckin day to Honor the Military

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 07:23 AM (g31NN)

637 How sly


I'm not saying the military would do it I'm saying they might be asked


What a pant load

Posted by: ThunderB at May 26, 2016 07:23 AM (zOTsN)

638 So go take your meds NGU
Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 07:21 AM (uAvJJ)

See I can't take meds left winger since I am in the Military and have to be pee tested every month

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 07:24 AM (g31NN)

639 Drudge has a link to a story about cops in B.C. writing tickets to texting drivers, using a camera with a three foot long lens to catch them from three quarters of a mile away. The tickets are for hundreds of dollars.

If they want to catch texting drivers all they need to do is watch the left lane on the Jersey turnpike. Lots easier than buying all that equipment, and its a target-rich environment. Every single young woman driving on the turnpike is texting. Count on it.

Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 07:24 AM (/m8T6)

640 Nothing like pissing off vets and currently serving folks first thing in the morning...

Smells like napalm.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 26, 2016 07:25 AM (rlfds)

641 GOP Congress, Pentagon Accelerate Recruitment of Illegals As Military Shrinks

****


Great, now we're going to have a bunch of Honduran Army psychiatrists? Will they conduct patient interviews in Spanish?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 26, 2016 07:25 AM (NeFrd)

642 Until now, Democrats have seen no downside to violating the Constitution
because they got the benefits of doing so without suffering the
consequences. The Constitution is a pretty good set of rules for
allowing people with serious disagreements to live together without
killing each other. Democrats generally do not appreciate that because
they have not had to face the reality of life without anybody following
the rules.



This.

The Founders made the Constitution in such a way that it could be interpreted to some degree and somewhat flexible. But the assumption was that grown-ups would be in charge and in control of the interpretation and flexibility. Like PJ said

"Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys."

Selfish , venal, greedy children ran this country into the ditch.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 26, 2016 07:25 AM (BH8wL)

643 637 Posted by: ThunderB at May 26, 2016 07:23 AM (zOTsN)

Right the military *might* be asked to do something naughty by Trump...

as opposed to you know having been told to do at a minimum unethical shit like training up future ISIS operators like under Giggles by Clinton indirectly...

Totally understandable.

Sadly there is no "fuck you people suck" get out of jail free card for the force to the electorate.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 07:25 AM (g8Hfr)

644 If they want to catch texting drivers all they need to do is watch the left lane on the Jersey turnpike. Lots easier than buying all that equipment, and its a target-rich environment. Every single young woman driving on the turnpike is texting. Count on it.
Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 07:24 AM (/m8T6)


Sad but true

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 07:26 AM (g31NN)

645 go take your meds - chemjeff




heh

Posted by: Officer Paddy O'Irony at May 26, 2016 07:26 AM (BH8wL)

646 The military has its own legal advisors you stupid dick

Posted by: ThunderB at May 26, 2016 07:26 AM (zOTsN)

647 No, we're at the pay-back stage now - lots of people want the
apparatus of the State, turned for many's the year now against them and their way of life, to go to work on wrecking their enemies. Simple as that.




Living for payback is the only thing that warms my cold, black heart.

Morning all.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 26, 2016 07:27 AM (EdhH3)

648 NEVER, EVER, EVER have a 'foreign legion' stationed on your own soil.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2016 07:22 AM (lutOX)
----------------------------------------------

Yessiree Bob; good advice. Listen to this good advice.

Posted by: Victims of the Sack of Rome at May 26, 2016 07:27 AM (/m8T6)

649 638 Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 07:24 AM (g31NN)

If a soldier had to have Ogabe's "breakfast of choom champions" medical protocol to keep going they'd be sent to mental hygiene...

Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 07:27 AM (g8Hfr)

650 "A reporter attempting to capture footage of Milo Yiannopoulos' event that was cut short at DuPaul University in Chicago was arrestedand jailed for the night after refusing to stop filming....

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zo9d7az

freakin' Chicago
Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2016 07:22 AM (NOIQH)


they are so afraid for people to see who they really are

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 07:28 AM (qCMvj)

651 damn, Twitter is hard to read.

Morning 'rons.

***

It's like any tech. A little use and it becomes second nature.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2016 07:28 AM (SEXy3)

652 "Smells like napalm."

Never smelled the stuff. A burnt off Charge 7 White Bag is another story. Ummmmm.... wish they made Candles with that aroma.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 07:28 AM (WVsWD)

653 646 Posted by: ThunderB at May 26, 2016 07:26 AM (zOTsN)


You think?

They are the cocksuckers who were "deeply troubled by drone strikes" under Bush and love them under Ogabe...

1/2 the current casualties we suffer are because of JAG's shit ROE....

Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 07:29 AM (g8Hfr)

654 However you feel about JAGS they aren't going to rubber stamp war crimes.

Posted by: ThunderB at May 26, 2016 07:30 AM (zOTsN)

655 Great, now we're going to have a bunch of Honduran Army psychiatrists? Will they conduct patient interviews in Spanish?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 26, 2016 07:25 AM (NeFrd)

---

Better than muslim shrinks who conduct patient interviews via gunshots.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 26, 2016 07:30 AM (rlfds)

656 "A reporter attempting to capture footage of Milo Yiannopoulos' event that was cut short at DuPaul University in Chicago was arrestedand jailed for the night after refusing to stop filming....

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zo9d7az

freakin' Chicago

Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2016 07:22 AM (NOIQH)



The next time DePaul calls to hit me up for a donation I won't just hang up on them as per usual I'll let the little lefty turds know what I think of them

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 26, 2016 07:31 AM (45oDG)

657 However you feel about JAGS they aren't going to rubber stamp war crimes.
Posted by: ThunderB at May 26, 2016 07:30 AM (zOTsN)


I got drunk once with a JAG and we walked home from the bar on base to the BOQ just to be safe...not sure if that was his suggestion or mine?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 07:32 AM (g31NN)

658 Never smelled the stuff. A burnt off Charge 7 White Bag is another story. Ummmmm.... wish they made Candles with that aroma.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at May 26, 2016 07:28 AM (WVsWD)
***
Stalin was an evil son of a bitch, but he had a way with words:

"Artillery is the god of war."

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2016 07:32 AM (lutOX)

659 they are so afraid for people to see who they really are

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 07:28 AM (qCMvj)
--------------------------------------------------------

I wonder, 'ette. Maybe they think no press will show the video (look at the whole PP outrage currently going on). I think its all about Progressive control and punishing their political opponents. It's an ugly political stew we are cooking.

Mix in a ruthless autocrat like Hillary, a woman who can take advantage like no one ever before, and you might well see the end of the Republic.

Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 07:33 AM (/m8T6)

660 GOP Congress, Pentagon Accelerate Recruitment of Illegals As Military Shrinks





Having a bunch of non citizens in your military is a great idea. Just ask the Roman Empire.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 26, 2016 07:33 AM (45oDG)

661 The possibility of Trump giving illegal orders under
some hypothetical scenario is sufficient grounds for full-throated
opposition to the man, and simultaneously suggests that the creature
who, if Trump does not prevail, will almost certainly do all in her
power to undermine whatever is worth saving of this nation, our laws,
and our way of life, and who willingly lit the match that burned down a
good chunk of the political order of the Arab mid-east, might not be the
worst alternative.



Is this what you mean? That boogey-man arguments about what Golden
Hair Weasel MIGHT do carry more weight than a documented history of
criminality and dictatorial abuse of the powers of the State?



And if you say they carry equal weight, then you're diminishing the actual damage she's done already.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2016 07:13 AM (lutOX)

Well first I appreciate the thoughtful response.
Second, it's not really a "boogey-man argument", it's a real one that Trump himself made at the debate, he has stood by it, and it is not at all outside the realm of possibility given the state of the ME at this time. Now he changes his mind all the time so maybe he'll change his mind on this one too, for once I hope he does change his mind, but he has stuck with it thus far.
Third, the illegal orders is just one example of *many* where Trump has shown evidence of possibly doing great harm. Such as: undermining the First Amendment by "revising the libel laws", threatening to default on the national debt, etc. And for issues that have not yet arisen, what would our understanding of Trump's temperament and character lead us to believe how he will act? I don't think the evidence is very strong in Trump's favor here.
Fourth, and most importantly, the issue for me really isn't "who is less evil". If that were the only question then yes, I agree, Trump is less evil. The question in my mind is, "does either candidate pass a minimum threshold of acceptability needed to earn my vote?" For Hillary the answer is a clear no. For Trump, the answer is also no, for a wide variety of reasons - his crude temperament, his lack of substantive thought on issues, his apparent acceptance of wild conspiracy theories, his lack of any identifiable set of consistent principles of ANY kind, be they liberal or conservative or whatever, his shameless demagoguery of foreigners as the chief culprits for all that's wrong in this country, and his pledge to not do anything *meaningfully helpful* that actually addresses the major problem, the debt and entitlement crisis.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 07:34 AM (uAvJJ)

662
Selfish , venal, greedy children ran this country into the ditch.


And a great many people seethe at watching the selfish, venal, greedy children walk away from the wreck without consequences.

Dear Uncle Palpatine wrote above that there is a great desire for those of us who have suffered under the dog-eating crackhead to have our hands on the apparatus of the State and turn it against the left with extreme prejudice. And I'll be petty enough to admit that motivates my support for Teh Donald, although I am also mature enough to realize that, even were he to win, ambulatory shitstains like Lois Lerner and Harry Reid would never be brought to book. Not even Scankles will end up cowering in supermax wondering when the block's biggest bull dyke is going to shank her.

What I want is tumbrils rolling through the streets. For both parties. But that won't happen. However, so long as Trump puts a stake through Hillary's political heart and stops her from ever being any sort of political force ever again, for that alone he would deserve the thanks of a grateful nation.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 26, 2016 07:36 AM (X6fMO)

663 Who ran the FAB commerical?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 07:36 AM (g31NN)

664 And for the record

Without jags.


No officer would go along with a president who ordered war crimes.

Whose a conspiracy nut now

Posted by: ThunderB at May 26, 2016 07:37 AM (zOTsN)

665 >>Maybe they think no press will show the video (look at the whole PP
outrage currently going on). I think its all about Progressive control
and punishing their political opponents. It's an ugly political stew
we are cooking

Yeah, it was a conservative blogger who was filming - not an MSM outlet.
I think after TrigglyPuff they are going to be extra careful about their protests being filmed - to avoid identification (since one of the aggressive leaders is the daughter of a Chicago PD higher up) and mocking.
Prof. Click was also caught trying to stop filming of the Mizzou protesters.

They want to do their damage - destroy free speech for one side and intimidate - and then slither back into the shadows.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2016 07:37 AM (NOIQH)

666 Mix in a ruthless autocrat like Hillary, a woman who can take advantage like no one ever before, and you might well see the end of the Republic.
Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 07:33 AM (/m8T6)


I bet many people (mostly the young and Democrat women) will think Hillary will be "soft" and "nice" and "caring" etc, because she is a woman. Care more about them. Without an understanding of how someone comes up in politics, and how Hillary has acted her entire life outside the camera. They'll never listen either, no matter what proof you have.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 07:38 AM (qCMvj)

667 Tell me

What war crime has Trump demanded, oh legal and military expert from the faculty lounge

Posted by: ThunderB at May 26, 2016 07:39 AM (zOTsN)

668 I take from all that (@661) that Chemjeff isn't voting for either candidate. I get that. I am voting to save civilization from Voldemort myself, because I'm used to climbing into ditches and doing the hard stuff, so I will vote for the foolish little man Trump but I understand polite horror at the choices.

Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 07:39 AM (/m8T6)

669 Where Are They Now? These 20 Kickass Conservative Candidates Were Once Approved By The Purity Posse




Posted by: ClickBait Nation at May 26, 2016 07:39 AM (BH8wL)

670 However, so long as Trump puts a stake through Hillary's political heart and stops her from ever being any sort of political force ever again, for that alone he would deserve the thanks of a grateful nation.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 26, 2016 07:36 AM (X6fMO)


Good analogy.
This would end the Clintons.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 07:40 AM (qCMvj)

671 Well first I appreciate the thoughtful response.
Second, it's not really a "boogey-man argument", it's a real one that Trump himself made at the debate, he has stood by it, and it is not at all outside the realm of possibility given the state of the ME at this time. Now he changes his mind all the time so maybe he'll change his mind on this one too, for once I hope he does change his mind, but he has stuck with it thus far.
Third, the illegal orders is just one example of *many* where Trump has shown evidence of possibly doing great harm.



Possibly versus done.

Chemjeff, do you even adult, bro?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 26, 2016 07:40 AM (EdhH3)

672

News Dump up

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 07:41 AM (qCMvj)

673 Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 07:34 AM (uAvJJ)
***
That's a thoughtful, well-argued response.

Two things, though:

1) Your vote isn't perhaps as valuable as you think it to be. No one's is, when push comes to shove;

2) "The question in my mind...." - the question in your mind is not the most important one facing you or others.

We're long past the point of arguing the hypothetical morality of an action that yields less than optimal results. Turning a fire-hose on an occupied building while others kick down doors, break windows, and drag the occupants, dazed and gasping from terror, out onto the street in the middle of the night - would be - and is - a criminal offense.

Unless the house is on fire, of course.

The house is on fire, chemjeff.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2016 07:42 AM (lutOX)

674 Possibly versus done.



Chemjeff, do you even adult, bro?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 26, 2016 07:40 AM (EdhH3)

What do you even mean?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 07:42 AM (uAvJJ)

675 Don't vote for Trump. Whatever


But do stop impugning men and women who are better than you, who haven't done anything to you, other than protect you

Posted by: ThunderB at May 26, 2016 07:46 AM (zOTsN)

676 But do stop impugning men and women who are better than you, who haven't done anything to you, other than protect you

Posted by: ThunderB at May 26, 2016 07:46 AM (zOTsN)

I haven't impugned anyone in the military, ThunderB. Please, go up and read what I wrote above. I did not ever say that the military would blindly follow illegal orders.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 07:47 AM (uAvJJ)

677 Don't lie about them to score some imagined political point

Posted by: ThunderB at May 26, 2016 07:48 AM (zOTsN)

678 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2016 07:42 AM (lutOX)

First, I'm kinda done with the "this is the most important election in the history of the country!!!!" shouting.


Second, in your analogy, is Trump supposed to be the person bravely saving the poor victims from the burning building?

If so, then I don't think that is a fair reading of what a Trump presidency would offer. Instead I think it would be more like:

Hillary: stokes the fire hotter
Trump: he MIGHT put out the fire, and he probably WILL start some other fire over there somewhere else

I agree that "Careless With Matches" Trump is preferable to "Cruel Arsonist" Hillary, but that doesn't mean I have to support either one. I prefer to support people who actually will put out the fire and have a demonstrated commitment to doing so.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 07:51 AM (uAvJJ)

679 677
Don't lie about them to score some imagined political point

Posted by: ThunderB at May 26, 2016 07:48 AM (zOTsN)

I didn't lie about anyone. Please.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2016 07:51 AM (uAvJJ)

680 I see the childish contrarian continues his derailment.

Palin Steele used to make more cogent arguments.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 26, 2016 08:00 AM (ZgOw9)

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