Overnight Open Thread 05/09/16 - [Niedermeyer's Dead Horse]

Welcome to the potpourri version of the ONT where the guest-COB is too lazy to think of a theme for the night.

I spent a couple of hours this afternoon watching The Weather Channel and a livestream, concurrently, of the wild weather in Oklahoma. Unfortunately, one elderly man lost his life and a number of homes and livestock were lost.

Despite the sad stories that inevitably arise from such storms, I can't imagine how many lives have been saved since the invention of Doppler radar. The number must be significant.

Today's storms come on the heels of some major tornadic activity, just a couple of days ago, near Wray, Colorado. This guy has provided some spectacular footage by getting oh-too-close for comfort.

The video in this first tweet is a 360 vid so just grab the video and drag it to change the perspective.

360 VIDEO from close encounter w/ Wray, CO #tornado via @360fly https://t.co/O0VtUJWF4H @ScienceByMaria pic.twitter.com/3mhilyqBRs
— Reed Timmer (@reedtimmerTVN) May 8, 2016

This second video is shot straight on. No fancy dragging of the video required.

It's simply breathtaking.

I wouldn't recommend trying this at home.

It's only fair that I follow up such horrible acts of nature with something much sweeter, so how about one of the cutest (and fastest) kittens on wheels?

Paralyzed kitten zips around in toy wheelchair https://t.co/UNMFuv2G3P via @NBCNewYork pic.twitter.com/7ecIn8yXd3
— NBC News (@NBCNews) May 7, 2016

Everybody now! D'awww!

Here's a pretty cool invention that I could actually get on board with.

GeoOrbital's creators had previously worked at SpaceX and Ford, companies that know a thing or two about renovating traditional transportation. The device replaces the front wheel in bikes with 26-inch or 700c (28-inch/29-inch) size tires; either way, its proprietary foam wheel won't get a flat when punctured. Additionally, its lithium-ion battery boosts your bike up to 20mph for up to 50 miles, has a USB port to charge your devices while you ride, and recharges as you pedal, brake, or coast downhill.

And this is one of the more idiotic inventions I've ever seen:

It's like one of those games where you have to spot the things that are out of place. How many different things can you find that are wrong with this product?

Okay. Time for more cuteness.

The US Fish and Wildlife Service has another terrific live-cam set up now: The Black-Footed Ferret cam. These creatures are nocturnal so we should be able to see them in action tonight.

Look how cute. (Click the link above to watch the live-cam view.)

What the heck! Let's toss some medical stuff in here too.

This is what a beating heart looks like when it's outside one's chest.

Fascinating.

This is how heart beats outside the body pic.twitter.com/zs4uvAU5gw
— Learn Something (@CoolestLifeHack) April 24, 2016

And here's a breakthrough that might make you shed a tear of joy.

A pacemaker-like device implanted in the chest of a Parkinson's patient sends electrical signals to the brain and stops tremors in seconds.

While it doesn't cure Parkinson's, it does greatly improve the quality of life for sufferers of the wretched disease.

Medtronic's DBS therapy uses a surgically implanted medical device, similar to a cardiac pacemaker, to deliver electrical stimulation to precisely targeted areas of the brain to reduce some of the disabling motor symptoms and improve quality of life, activities of daily living and reduce medication usage for individuals living with Parkinson's disease. Dr. Calegan and board-certified neurosurgeon Dr. Paul J. Waguespack were the first physicians in the Baton Rouge area to offer this innovative procedure, launching The NeuroMedical Center's Deep Brain Stimulation Program in 2007. Both Drs. Calegan and Waguespack also have degrees in engineering, so they feel very comfortable combining innovative technology with medicine. To date, over 250 patients have benefited from DBS therapy performed at The NeuroMedical Center. Now, due to the success of the DBS program, The NeuroMedical Center has expanded to 3 board-certified neurologists as well as a neurosurgeon who specialize in movement disorders and DBS.

Here's a video of the device in action. The look of surprise and relief on his face brought me to tears.

God Bless those who toiled to create this remarkable device.

Tonight's ONT brought to you by this reminder of what could have been. (H/T John Rivers)

Now, in the words of the world's most trusted news anchor, Goodnight, and have a pleasant tomorrow.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 09:59 PM

Comments

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1 Fighting Capitalism With Hobo Pederasty

What happens when intersectional Marxism tries to intertwine labor, class, sexuality, and a dash of feminism?

Hobosexuality.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=11704

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 09, 2016 10:03 PM (vBeA5)

2 Not first. But early.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 09, 2016 10:04 PM (fiGNd)

3 The first loser, as Dale Sr. would say.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 09, 2016 10:05 PM (fiGNd)

4 Walker was never going to happen. He doomed himself with his stance(s) on immigration.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 10:06 PM (R+30W)

5 Woot woot ONT

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 09, 2016 10:07 PM (voOPb)

6 Nice ONT ~~Maet~~ Nied....

I'm going to spare it my further intrusion lest I drive off the "good folk"

Posted by: sven10077 at May 09, 2016 10:08 PM (g8Hfr)

7 This is what a beating heart looks like when it's outside one's chest.

So? I've seen thousands of those.

Fascinating.

No. Just tasty and good, clean entertainment.

Posted by: A Noble Savage Aztec Ripping the Beating Heart Out of Your Body For Laughs at May 09, 2016 10:08 PM (PjWy4)

8 Wow wish they had that pacemaker thing for Parkinson's patients years ago for my dad

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 09, 2016 10:09 PM (voOPb)

9 Top o' the evening, folks.

Had some strong wind up here in NE Oklahoma this morning, but nothing like the twisters that touched down elsewhere in the state today, killing at least one and clobbering property. Son in OKC said one went by a mile from his workplace.

Hoping any morons in the vicinity of wild winds are safe and sound.

Posted by: mindful webworker said breezily at May 09, 2016 10:09 PM (5a8XA)

10 Evening, ONT

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 10:10 PM (txsZC)

11 Front page item over at msn.com -

"White House on Damage Control"

It's an AP article talking about some of the revelations from Ben Rhodes's interview, and the belated White House attempts to perform damage control.

Word is getting out.

Posted by: junior at May 09, 2016 10:10 PM (+ULUe)

12 Ever since Trump won Indiana I've been in a pissy mood. It's going to be a long six months, followed by a longer four years.

Posted by: biancaneve at May 09, 2016 10:10 PM (sjq9T)

13 Monday Night #SCIENCE! ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/729727183493664768

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/729727484770553856

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/729727628404527104

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/729727864304742401

Posted by: kbdabear at May 09, 2016 10:11 PM (csH1n)

14 Yay NDH doing ONT!! Woo hoo!

Posted by: L, Elle at May 09, 2016 10:11 PM (9vbJt)

15 Despite the sad stories that inevitably arise from such storms, I can't imagine how many lives have been saved since the invention of Doppler radar. The number must be significant.-NDH

You measure them how I saved jobs
Posted by: Barack Obama

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 09, 2016 10:11 PM (voOPb)

16 See you all in ages minutes.

Posted by: French Jeton at May 09, 2016 10:11 PM (WMvHw)

17 Fliz bike concept

The official limo service of Ow, My Balls!

Posted by: t-bird at May 09, 2016 10:12 PM (9mTYi)

18 What happens when intersectional Marxism tries to intertwine labor, class, sexuality, and a dash of feminism?

Madness. Tell me again why we keep losing to the Left.

Posted by: cm9000 at May 09, 2016 10:12 PM (2TUVm)

19 Ages =' "a few minutes"

Posted by: French Jeton at May 09, 2016 10:12 PM (WMvHw)

20 More Monday Night #SCIENCE! ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/729728563440721920

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/729729248118882304

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/729729424636129281

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/729729575656263684

Posted by: kbdabear at May 09, 2016 10:12 PM (csH1n)

21 I don't miss tornados

Posted by: Tilikum Bruised Killer Assault Whale at May 09, 2016 10:12 PM (hVdx9)

22 Walker went back to the cheese store.

Posted by: eman at May 09, 2016 10:13 PM (MQEz6)

23 Yeah, actually an Article V convention could turn into a "runaway convention" but it only would have power to propose amendments, not amend the Constitution itself. So the wacky lunatic left-wing "repeal the 2nd amendment" type amendments would have to get the support of 3/4ths of the state as per usual, which isn't going to happen.

Posted by: chemjeff

You still haven't read anything written on about it on Volokh Conspiracy, have you?

Had you, you might have seen the fact that a States convention precludes a 'run-away' convention. The text must be passed by each state in toto, without alteration in order to become a law.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 09, 2016 10:13 PM (OcD4G)

24 12 Ever since Trump won Indiana I've been in a pissy mood. It's going to be a long six months, followed by a longer four years.

Posted by: biancaneve at May 09, 2016 10:10 PM (sjq9T)

++++

Eight.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 10:14 PM (R+30W)

25 1) The GOP is more like them than us
2) They control the media
3) They control the schools
4) They control the courts

Any questions?

Posted by: Tilikum Bruised Killer Assault Whale at May 09, 2016 10:14 PM (hVdx9)

26 Seen beating hearts in Frankenstein movies.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 09, 2016 10:14 PM (k4M/B)

27 Good evening, morons!

My husband's grandmother was recently diagnosed with Parkinson's, and it's been amazing to watch as new drugs have helped her regain stability and, more importantly, confidence. Granny and Gramps often watch my daughter while we're overseas and it brings them such joy! Not that my daughter has everyone wrapped around her tiny fingers or anything.

Posted by: pookysgirl at May 09, 2016 10:14 PM (EgeHs)

28 Eight.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous
****

Of Hillary...

Posted by: Tilikum Bruised Killer Assault Whale at May 09, 2016 10:14 PM (hVdx9)

29 Don't fool with Mother Nature. I'm just not brave, or should I say foolhardy, enough to follow a monster like that. Nope. No way.

Posted by: Tuna at May 09, 2016 10:16 PM (JSovD)

30 We get our own Castro. Julian Castro.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 09, 2016 10:16 PM (k4M/B)

31 Tumbleweeds roll by.
Ravens caw in the distance.
Empty throne of skulls.

Posted by: ~~Walker 2016!~~ at May 09, 2016 10:17 PM (H9MG5)

32 Good ONT, Neid. Thanks. Cuddly ferrets and disembodied hearts, tornadoes and kitten.

And none of those boring "Quote of the day" things that other guy posts.

[we need a shifty-eyes smilie]

MAET: JUST KIDDING!!!

Posted by: mindful webworker said gratefully at May 09, 2016 10:17 PM (5a8XA)

33 Well....potpourri smells suspiciously like perfumed shit, but this ONT is rather nice.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2016 10:18 PM (Zu3d9)

34 Wow wish they had that pacemaker thing for Parkinson's patients years ago for my dad

***

I'm sorry.

I felt the same way when my grandfather, who succumbed to lung cancer, spent his past few years fighting that battle as well as excruciating and often, bleeding, gastric ulcers. A few months after his death the New England Journal of Medicine published the findings about H-Pylori.

The antibiotic treatment wouldn't have spared him from the lung cancer, but would have spared the strongest man I've ever known from doubling over in tears from the agony.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2016 10:19 PM (SEXy3)

35 Entropy sucks.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale-Grain of Sand at May 09, 2016 10:19 PM (hVdx9)

36 Posted by: mindful webworker said gratefully at May 09, 2016 10:17 PM (5a8XA)

Are you insane?

Maetenloch thinks that Conan The Barbarian is an effete fag.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2016 10:20 PM (Zu3d9)

37 That tornado video is just spectacular. What amazing footage.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 09, 2016 10:20 PM (9vbJt)

38 Maetenloch thinks that Conan The Barbarian is an effete fag.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Meaty thinks commenting on articles is 'snark.' And he's right!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 09, 2016 10:21 PM (OcD4G)

39 Thanks NDH

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 09, 2016 10:21 PM (voOPb)

40 Tornado footage is incredible. Noticed that there isnt' the amount of falling debris with this tornado, unlike tornados that go through subdivisions, etc.

Yes, I did notice the flatbed trailer sitting in the middle of the road. But the reason the film guys could get that close is because there isn't parts of houses, etc. falling down on them.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 09, 2016 10:21 PM (0Ryf6)

41 junior #11: "White House on Damage Control"

It's an AP article talking about some of the revelations from Ben Rhodes's interview, and the belated White House attempts to perform damage control.

Word is getting out.

Col. Ralph Peters on Rhodes: "Stalin could've used this guy."

https://youtu.be/pNOgOXwFkyk

Posted by: mindful webworker said snarkily at May 09, 2016 10:21 PM (5a8XA)

42 You still haven't read anything written on about it on Volokh Conspiracy, have you?

Had you, you might have seen the fact that a States convention precludes a 'run-away' convention. The text must be passed by each state in toto, without alteration in order to become a law.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 09, 2016 10:13 PM (OcD4G)

But that contradicts the plain text of the language. States can not propose amendments. The power to propose is limited to Congress and the convention called by Congress upon petition of the requisite number of states. The verb "propose" means that same thing when used in the same sentant, just like "right of the people" meant the same thing across all the articles of the Bill of Rights.

Posted by: The Constitutional Hat at May 09, 2016 10:21 PM (vBeA5)

43 Loperamide is the main ingredient in Imodium A-D. It causes intestinal slow-down, which helps stop diarrhea, but it is an opioid.

"It's an opioid agent and it helps to bind receptors in the brain and cause a similar euphoria or high," Dr. Scott Krakower, a physician who specializes in addiction disorders at Northwell Health, said.

Krakower said a person would have to take an enormous dose of anti-diarrhea medication to get high. Addicts are found to be popping anywhere from 50 to 300 pills per day.

According to the study, Imodium A-D, in large doses, works in the body the same way as heroin, morphine and oxycodone. However, Imodium A-D is a much cheaper alternative, as big box stores sell 400 tablets for less than $10.

Posted by: James T Kirk at May 09, 2016 10:21 PM (e8kgV)

44
When I look at that Parkinson's guy, I see a young kid -- I see pure, basic humanity, wishing for happiness and health. Thank God people provide those things to each other.

Posted by: iforgot at May 09, 2016 10:22 PM (5o5ek)

45 Geo-orbital is dumb. Replaces one pair of bearings, with 3 pairs of bearings that have to spin much faster, hence more than triple the friction. Also you lose the gyroscopic effect of the entire wheel spinning, which is one of the things that makes bike riding possible. You could get all the alleged benefits of the Geo-orbital by simply having a wheel with a motorized hub, which, surprise, surprise already exists.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2016 10:22 PM (8p7pX)

46 Walker andl the other GOP candidates were corrupted, willingly I'm sure, by early deep-pocket donors who favored a liberal immigration stance.

Posted by: Jean at May 09, 2016 10:23 PM (cXiMR)

47 12 Ever since Trump won Indiana I've been in a pissy mood. It's going to be a long six months, followed by a longer four years.

Posted by: biancaneve at May 09, 2016 10:10 PM (sjq9T)

Whatever the hell "normal" was, we are not returning to it for a long, long time.

Posted by: AD at May 09, 2016 10:23 PM (zRYoX)

48 NDH, thanks for a very nice ONT.

My first thoughts on seeing that stupid invention velocipede was "Ow! My nuts!"

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 09, 2016 10:23 PM (u82oZ)

49 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2016 10:19 PM (SEXy3)

H. Pylori is a perfect example of why we should sneer at the "Science Is Settled" bullshit from the AGW asshats.

Everyone knew what caused ulcers....until they were proven spectacularly wrong.

Next time I am in your neck of the woods (December?) we should toss back a toast to your grandfather!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2016 10:23 PM (Zu3d9)

50 42 Posted by: The Constitutional Hat at May 09, 2016 10:21 PM (vBeA5)

We live in an epoch where the 14th amendment OBVIOUSLY covers glee marriage but the 1st and 2d amendment's plain language is "murky."

This is not getting settled by law, votes, or courts.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 09, 2016 10:23 PM (g8Hfr)

51
We get our own Castro. Julian Castro.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 09, 2016 10:16 PM (k4M/B)
------------------

In fact, we get a pair, just like the Cubans. Julian has a twin brother.

Posted by: iforgot at May 09, 2016 10:24 PM (5o5ek)

52 Loperamide is the main ingredient in Imodium A-D. It causes intestinal slow-down, which helps stop diarrhea, but it is an opioid.

"It's an opioid agent and it helps to bind receptors in the brain and cause a similar euphoria or high," Dr. Scott Krakower, a physician who specializes in addiction disorders at Northwell Health, said.

Krakower said a person would have to take an enormous dose of anti-diarrhea medication to get high. Addicts are found to be popping anywhere from 50 to 300 pills per day.

According to the study, Imodium A-D, in large doses, works in the body the same way as heroin, morphine and oxycodone. However, Imodium A-D is a much cheaper alternative, as big box stores sell 400 tablets for less than $10.

Posted by: James T Kirk
****

I wonder if any chemists will try to extract the Loperamide like they did with pseudoephedrine?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale-Grain of Sand at May 09, 2016 10:24 PM (hVdx9)

53 Col. Ralph Peters on Rhodes: "Stalin could've used this guy."

https://youtu.be/pNOgOXwFkyk
Posted by: mindful webworker said snarkily at May 09, 2016 10:21 PM (5a8XA)

Millenials are asking, "whose Stalin"?

Posted by: Jen the original at May 09, 2016 10:24 PM (0Ryf6)

54 Kerning. A lost art.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 09, 2016 10:24 PM (Ntwfo)

55 Posted by: James T Kirk at May 09, 2016 10:21 PM (e8kgV)

I was taught that it didn't cross the blood/brain barrier.

I wonder....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2016 10:25 PM (Zu3d9)

56 Anyone else tired of the government lying at every turn.

The people in this administration will be tied up in the courts for years to come, sadly the taxpayer will most likely pick up the tab.

Posted by: Retire John McCain at May 09, 2016 10:26 PM (kUGuL)

57 To the kind folks saying "Thanks", you're welcome!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2016 10:26 PM (SEXy3)

58 >>>This is not getting settled by law, votes, or courts.
---

Oh-oh, that only leaves one possibility that comes to mind

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 09, 2016 10:26 PM (voOPb)

59
In fact, we get a pair, just like the Cubans. Julian has a twin brother.
Posted by: iforgot

Didn't one of them stand in for the other one time? Unannounced!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 09, 2016 10:26 PM (k4M/B)

60 Yet another ONT blogger and I'm not invited?

I feel shamed, like a trigglypuff being told 12 reps ain't good enough.

Who does one have to sleep with around here to get to post?

(yeah, there's humor involved)

Posted by: JEM at May 09, 2016 10:26 PM (o+SC1)

61 Harley rides to Kohl's,
Will have to suffice for you.
Air Force One's not yours.

Posted by: ~~Walker 2016!~~ at May 09, 2016 10:27 PM (H9MG5)

62 We usually don't discuss Trump on the ONT, biancanieve, especially with those pulling for Romney to now get the nomination.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 09, 2016 10:27 PM (Ntwfo)

63 H. Pylori is a perfect example of why we should sneer at the "Science Is Settled" bullshit from the AGW asshats.

Everyone knew what caused ulcers....until they were proven spectacularly wrong.

Next time I am in your neck of the woods (December?) we should toss back a toast to your grandfather!

***

It's stress! It's acidic foods!

It seemed so incredible at the time because nobody thought a bug could live in stomach acid, but it does.

And, absolutely! Don't dare think of passing through and not grabbing a drink.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2016 10:27 PM (SEXy3)

64 Loperamide blood/brain barrier quote

"This is because Loperamide doesn't act on the Central Nervous System (CNS). In fact, a common misconception is that loperamide doesn't cross the Blood-Brain Barrier (BBB). In reality, loperamide DOES cross this barrier, however, it gets IMMEDIATELY pumped back out into NON-CNS circulation"

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale-Grain of Sand at May 09, 2016 10:27 PM (hVdx9)

65 Welcome to the potpourri version of the ONT where the guest-COB is too lazy to think of a theme for the night.

Call us. We may have some suggestions.

Posted by: Cora, Lena, and Yoko at May 09, 2016 10:27 PM (OF/aZ)

66 57 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2016 10:26 PM (SEXy3)

Always happy to be cordial.

You are one of the voices I miss on Twitter few though they are.

I was under the impression the ONT was "politix free" but others seem to be carrying the pitchforks.

Anyway I want to read some or playstest the FASERIP RPG w/wife.

Night-o Nied.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 09, 2016 10:27 PM (g8Hfr)

67
Didn't one of them stand in for the other one time? Unannounced!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 09, 2016 10:26 PM (k4M/B)
---------------------

omg, they're being Disney comedy twins?

Posted by: iforgot at May 09, 2016 10:28 PM (5o5ek)

68 Sadly, Paltrow never does give us a lube recipe, but she does offer a guide to some pretty amazing sex toys, including some fancy ben wa balls (can be used warmed or cooled!) and a 24 carat gold dildo. This isn't the first time Paltrow has given some serious thought to our vaginas; there was that time she recommended that we try vaginal steaming.

Posted by: James T Kirk at May 09, 2016 10:28 PM (e8kgV)

69 Yet another ONT blogger and I'm not invited?

I feel shamed, like a trigglypuff being told 12 reps ain't good enough.

Who does one have to sleep with around here to get to post?

(yeah, there's humor involved)

****

Are you a COB? If so, you should have received the email asking for fill-ins.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2016 10:28 PM (SEXy3)

70 Krakower said a person would have to take an enormous dose of anti-diarrhea medication to get high. Addicts are found to be popping anywhere from 50 to 300 pills per day.

According to the study, Imodium A-D, in large doses, works in the body the same way as heroin, morphine and oxycodone. However, Imodium A-D is a much cheaper alternative, as big box stores sell 400 tablets for less than $10. Posted by James T Kirk at May 09, 2016 10:21 PM (e8kgV)

Oh joy, yet another thing I have to show my driver's license for. What I want to know is, who was the idiot that took 50 anti-diarrhea pills and said, "Wow, this makes me feel great!"

Posted by: pookysgirl at May 09, 2016 10:29 PM (EgeHs)

71 But that contradicts the plain text of the language. States can not propose amendments. The power to propose is limited to Congress and the convention called by Congress upon petition of the requisite number of states.

Posted by: The Constitutional Hat

"The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution,when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 09, 2016 10:29 PM (OcD4G)

72 No shit, dude, Krakower! Wow!

Posted by: andycanuck at May 09, 2016 10:29 PM (Ntwfo)

73 Thanks for the ONT, NDH.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 09, 2016 10:30 PM (rJUlF)

74 58 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 09, 2016 10:26 PM (voOPb)

The right either has values and positions or they don't.

The right exercises restraint when precedent runs counter its desires like "birthright citizenship"...

the left wants what it wants what it wants.

Something WILL have to give.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 09, 2016 10:30 PM (g8Hfr)

75 Oh joy, yet another thing I have to show my driver's license for. What I want to know is, who was the idiot that took 50 anti-diarrhea pills and said, "Wow, this makes me feel great!"

Posted by: pookysgirl at May 09, 2016 10:29 PM (EgeHs)

One would at least hope that said idiot didn't feel like shit.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2016 10:31 PM (8p7pX)

76 42 You still haven't read anything written on about it on Volokh Conspiracy, have you?

Had you, you might have seen the fact that a States convention precludes a 'run-away' convention. The text must be passed by each state in toto, without alteration in order to become a law.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 09, 2016 10:13 PM (OcD4G)

But that contradicts the plain text of the language. States can not propose amendments. The power to propose is limited to Congress and the convention called by Congress upon petition of the requisite number of states. The verb "propose" means that same thing when used in the same sentant, just like "right of the people" meant the same thing across all the articles of the Bill of Rights.

Posted by: The Constitutional Hat at May 09, 2016 10:21 PM (vBeA5)

++++

No, once the convention is convened, the proposing takes place. Not by Congress, but by the States' representatives at the convention.

Article 5
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; ~~provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article;~~ and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.

What comes out of the convention still has to be ratified by 3/4ths of the states, but once Congress has called the convention (as they must if petitioned by 2/3rds of the states), they are out of the process.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 10:31 PM (R+30W)

77 I love these lefties who think they are such adherents of science, but push crap like "cupping" and coffee enemas etc.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale-Grain of Sand at May 09, 2016 10:31 PM (hVdx9)

78 first
!!

Posted by: Jake at May 09, 2016 10:31 PM (merZO)

79 Of Course I Still Love You is visible on the Port Canaveral webcam, approaching the mouth of the harbor.

http://portcanaveralwebcam.com/

Posted by: rickl at May 09, 2016 10:32 PM (sdi6R)

80 Nite Sven thanks for the response

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 09, 2016 10:32 PM (voOPb)

81
omg, they're being Disney comedy twins?
Posted by: iforgot

Still, they're brothers,
Identical brothers and you'll find,
They laugh alike, they walk alike,
At times they even talk alike --

You can lose your mind,
When brothers are two of a kind.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 09, 2016 10:32 PM (k4M/B)

82 There were less than 200 viewers a couple of hours ago; now it's up to 759.

Posted by: rickl at May 09, 2016 10:33 PM (sdi6R)

83 The verb "propose" means that same thing when used in the same sentant,
just like "right of the people" meant the same thing across all the
articles of the Bill of Rights.

Well, yeah, except for that 2nd Amendment, which we don't talk about.

Posted by: zombie American Civil Liberties Union at May 09, 2016 10:33 PM (OF/aZ)

84 The powered bicycle wheel doesn't surprise me at all; I'm just surprised it took this long. A smaller version was already invented for bicycle race teams that were using them to cheat with.

https://www.electricbike.com/stealth/

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 09, 2016 10:33 PM (gyKtp)

85 Saw a Simon Pegg movie where he plays a bad guy.
Kill Me Three Times
It did not do well and was almost straight to video.
I enjoyed it, but it does have some plot holes etc.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale-Grain of Sand at May 09, 2016 10:33 PM (hVdx9)

86 good evening
still grading papers
ugh

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 09, 2016 10:34 PM (dpnZC)

87 Posted by: Anon Y. Mous

That you knew the text is awesome. That you knew what I was going to do, well, thanks.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 09, 2016 10:34 PM (OcD4G)

88 If Hillary chooses a Castro for her running mate, she shouldn't piss around with the B team. Go Fidel or go home!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2016 10:34 PM (8p7pX)

89 One would at least hope that said idiot didn't feel like shit.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2016 10:31 PM

Depends.

Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at May 09, 2016 10:34 PM (OF/aZ)

90 still grading papers

Just ask each paper what grade it identifies as! Problem solved ...

Posted by: Adriane the Academic Critic ... at May 09, 2016 10:35 PM (AoK0a)

91 As a former NEFL moron, I appreciate it, NGH. We've chatted before but I am so far away now! Great work.

Posted by: Pecan Scandi at May 09, 2016 10:35 PM (2khWU)

92 As a former NEFL moron, I appreciate it, NGH. We've chatted before but I am so far away now! Great work.

Posted by: Pecan Scandi at May 09, 2016 10:35 PM (2khWU)

93 Mmmmm....beating heart.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at May 09, 2016 10:35 PM (0mRoj)

94
Don't tornadoes occasionally pick up vehicles, or drive objects through windshields?

Posted by: iforgot at May 09, 2016 10:36 PM (5o5ek)

95 Suddenly, with the State Dept. erasing Fox news reporter Rosen's interview with Psaki, I feel like Stalin is alive and well living in the white house.

Posted by: Retire John McCain at May 09, 2016 10:36 PM (kUGuL)

96 Jen #53: Millenials are asking, "whose [who's] Stalin"?

Hell, they don't even know who Hitler was. Or what WW2 was about! Or who fought it!

Facebook video on Legal Insurrection
http://bit.ly/1T2jxJ6

Posted by: mindful webworker said desperately at May 09, 2016 10:36 PM (5a8XA)

97 " Tornado footage is incredible. "

It is. The noise always gets me. An utter, relentless ear-splitting din.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 10:37 PM (txsZC)

98 This isn't the first time Paltrow has given some
serious thought to our vaginas; there was that time she recommended that
we try vaginal steaming.
Posted by: James T Kirk at May 09, 2016 10:28 PM

I thought you only went for the green ones?

Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at May 09, 2016 10:37 PM (OF/aZ)

99 87 Posted by: Anon Y. Mous

That you knew the text is awesome. That you knew what I was going to do, well, thanks.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 09, 2016 10:34 PM (OcD4G)

++++

You beat me to it.

Us constitutionalists must stick together, even if we don't have a hat.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 10:38 PM (R+30W)

100 Everyone seems scared of an Article V Convention. I understand why this might be so, but it is one of the last truly legal means left to us by the Founders to turn things around.

It should not be feared, but carefully studied and embraced. It may not work, but at least all options would have then been exercised. I can not even realistically game out how this thing goes after that, because the thought of what it would take after that makes my heart hurt.

I have no wish to ever see a person at the end of my sights ever agakn.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 10:38 PM (YLidQ)

101 There were less than 200 viewers a couple of hours ago; now it's up to 759.
The Yankees game?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 09, 2016 10:38 PM (Ntwfo)

102 Lots of cuteness, NDH, but now it's time for some terror.

How about "The Cancer Alien" ie a YouTuber describing Adrian Wu, a fashion designer who wants to make "the third gender".

Oh, and he found a doctor in Canada (natural) who is giving him the chemicals Adrian needs to aid his transformation.

http://tinyurl.com/hr2zk9w

Posted by: Thrawn at May 09, 2016 10:39 PM (wQWv4)

103 97- like a train coming through the living room. Been there, done that, moved to Arizona because of it. Well, the minus 30 degrees played a part too, just say'n

Posted by: Retire John McCain at May 09, 2016 10:40 PM (kUGuL)

104 That first tornado pic looks like something out of an alien invasion movie.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at May 09, 2016 10:40 PM (0mRoj)

105 Evening MWNP. How goes it?

Posted by: bill-o at May 09, 2016 10:40 PM (rysJw)

106 101 There were less than 200 viewers a couple of hours ago; now it's up to 759.
The Yankees game?
Posted by: andycanuck at May 09, 2016 10:38 PM (Ntwfo)

Port Canaveral webcam. Now it's up to 811.

Posted by: rickl at May 09, 2016 10:41 PM (sdi6R)

107 And this is one of the more idiotic inventions I've ever seen:

Vic is gonna be pissed when he sees the poorly executed copy of his old Velocipede.

Oh, and, evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 09, 2016 10:41 PM (T/cxb)

108 "The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution,when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 09, 2016 10:29 PM (OcD4G)

The convention proposes. Congress can propose. The states can only petition Congress to call a convention for proposing.

In what world does "petition for a convention" mean "proposes amendment", while "proposes amendment" doesn't mean "proposing amendments"?

The actual records are not clear, but they were originally going to have the states petition Congress to be required to propose an amendment, but then changed it to Congress being required to call a convention that would propose amendments.

The convention would be a creature of the Constitution and independent of the states.

If they just wanted a rubber stamp on an amendment proposed by the states, they wouldn't have junked that option and opted for a convention.

Pretty much all the "evidence" to the contrary has been mulled over opinions of what the Founding Fathers thought based on indirect writings, invokations of "conventions of the states" (which were not Article V conventions), and other such musings.

Posted by: The Constitutional Hat at May 09, 2016 10:41 PM (vBeA5)

109 Evening MWNP. How goes it?
Posted by: bill-o at May 09, 2016 10:40 PM (rysJw)

****

Doing well Bill. Hows thangs?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 10:42 PM (YLidQ)

110 Saw a Simon Pegg movie where he plays a bad guy.
Kill Me Three Times
It did not do well and was almost straight to video.
I enjoyed it, but it does have some plot holes etc.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault

Oh, the super ironic assassin thing. Have you seen his 'stalked by an psychopath, captured in a basement' pic, A Fantastic Fear of Everything?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 09, 2016 10:42 PM (OcD4G)

111 Bertram Cabot Jr. #81: ...Still, they're brothers,
Identical brothers and you'll find...

That reminds me.

William Schallert, RIP at 93
http://bit.ly/279q9yM

Among many roles...

Dad on Patty Duke

Ag Sec in charge of the quadro-triticale what killed the tribbles.

Posted by: mindful webworker said trekkishly at May 09, 2016 10:43 PM (5a8XA)

112 Awwww. Those little nocturnal weasels are cute as can be!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 09, 2016 10:43 PM (T/5A0)

113 Hey everybody.

I finally got a CD of Ace of Base's "The Sign" today. I'm ready for 1993!!!!!1!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 10:46 PM (ntObR)

114 "Been there, done that, moved to Arizona because of it. '

Whereabouts did you live?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 10:46 PM (txsZC)

115 Some great video content.

Thanks OB.

Posted by: Colossus of Ben Rhodes at May 09, 2016 10:47 PM (GdgAM)

116
Doing well Bill. Hows thangs?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 10:42 PM (YLidQ

Other than the increased popcorn consumption due to the circus election same ol ... Work sleep repeat...

Posted by: bill-o at May 09, 2016 10:47 PM (rysJw)

117 In fact, we get a pair, just like the Cubans. Julian has a twin brother.

Always there are two, the master and the apprentice.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 09, 2016 10:47 PM (T/cxb)

118 88 If Hillary chooses a Castro for her running mate, she shouldn't piss around with the B team. Go Fidel or go home!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2016 10:34 PM
--------------
Damned straight!
The added bonus is that he's about the only running mate that could make her look young and healthy!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 09, 2016 10:48 PM (T/5A0)

119 the tornado that hit here sounded like the loudest jet ever with half the blades removed. didn't know what it was until it was over. the next morning, they were using snow plows to remove trees from the highway. crazy shit.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 09, 2016 10:48 PM (ucDmr)

120 In fact, we get a pair, just like the Cubans. Julian has a twin brother.

Always there are two, the master and the apprentice.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 09, 2016 10:47 PM (T/cxb)

Thread winner.

Posted by: The Padawan Hat at May 09, 2016 10:49 PM (vBeA5)

121 Other than the increased popcorn consumption due to the circus election same ol ... Work sleep repeat...
Posted by: bill-o at May 09, 2016 10:47 PM (rysJw)

*****

I hear ya, my life too. Feels like existing rather than living. Kinda sucks.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 10:49 PM (YLidQ)

122 88 If Hillary chooses a Castro for her running mate, she shouldn't piss around with the B team. Go Fidel or go home!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2016 10:34 PM (8p7pX)

So, the hombre from Habana not the maric�n from San Antone?

Posted by: The Osprey at May 09, 2016 10:49 PM (51GFO)

123 I just this minute got an e-mail notification of a new SpaceX video showing last week's first stage landing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHqLz9ni0Bo

That's the stage that's arriving in Port Canaveral right now.

Posted by: rickl at May 09, 2016 10:49 PM (sdi6R)

124 Frank Frazetta for President.

Works for me.

Posted by: dissent555 at May 09, 2016 10:50 PM (GdgAM)

125 Dodgers suck. This makes me happy

Posted by: ThunderB at May 09, 2016 10:50 PM (zOTsN)

126 Vic is gonna be pissed when he sees the poorly executed copy of his old Velocipede.

Oh, and, evenin' everyone.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 09, 2016 10:41 PM (T/cxb)

He thought they were crazy when his cavemates chiseled a rock into a wheel.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at May 09, 2016 10:50 PM (0mRoj)

127 Who was it that recorded an album back in the 1980s (I think) called "Birth, School, Work, Death"?

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 10:50 PM (ntObR)

128 Which would folks here think is a better investment?

Tesla or SpaceX?

(Okay, I'm already out of 1993. Don't want to invest in AOL.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 10:51 PM (ntObR)

129 That bike is asinine. If I want to ride my bike, I'll ride it. If I want to walk, I'll go for a walk. walking or running with this metal contraption on me just looks idiotic and combines the worse aspects of walking and bike riding.

But then I thought and still think Segways are ridiculous too, but some people apparently like them.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 09, 2016 10:51 PM (P8951)

130 108 "The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution,when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 09, 2016 10:29 PM (OcD4G)

The convention proposes. Congress can propose. The states can only petition Congress to call a convention for proposing.

In what world does "petition for a convention" mean "proposes amendment", while "proposes amendment" doesn't mean "proposing amendments"?

The actual records are not clear, but they were originally going to have the states petition Congress to be required to propose an amendment, but then changed it to Congress being required to call a convention that would propose amendments.

The convention would be a creature of the Constitution and independent of the states.

If they just wanted a rubber stamp on an amendment proposed by the states, they wouldn't have junked that option and opted for a convention.

Pretty much all the "evidence" to the contrary has been mulled over opinions of what the Founding Fathers thought based on indirect writings, invokations of "conventions of the states" (which were not Article V conventions), and other such musings.

Posted by: The Constitutional Hat at May 09, 2016 10:41 PM (vBeA5)

++++

The purpose of that extra method of proposing amendments is so that the states can force the process if Congress is unwilling to move. That is the whole purpose. If Congress got to decide, why even bother having the second method? In your tortured reading, it would serve no useful purpose.

shall call a convention for proposing amendments

The purpose of the convention is, as the amendment says in plain English, is to propose amendments.

The founders were very much aware of the possibility of a federal government that took too much power onto itself and ignored the desires of the states. Thus, they were big fans of checks and balances, like this one, that distributed power.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 10:52 PM (R+30W)

131 It is. The noise always gets me. An utter, relentless ear-splitting din.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill

They call the wind....Mariah

Mariah, shut up!

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at May 09, 2016 10:53 PM (+1T7c)

132 "I finally got a CD of Ace of Base's "The Sign" today. I'm ready for 1993!!!!!1!!"

Well, then do I have a hot tip for you. A thing called "Shania Twain" is getting ready to drop. Get on the train early.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 10:53 PM (txsZC)

133 Who was it that recorded an album back in the 1980s (I think) called "Birth, School, Work, Death"?

Posted by: qdpsteve

The laziest of searches sez, "The Godfathers"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 09, 2016 10:54 PM (OcD4G)

134
How many different things can you find that are wrong with this product?

The most important thing wrong with that thing is that you look like a fucking idiot.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 09, 2016 10:54 PM (o98Jz)

135 "White House on Damage Control"

It's an AP article talking about some of the revelations from Ben Rhodes's interview, and the belated White House attempts to perform damage control.

Word is getting out.

Posted by: junior at May 09, 2016 10:10 PM (+ULUe)

This won't last 24 hours. Barry could shit on each member of the MFMs head and they'd still kiss his ass.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 09, 2016 10:54 PM (45oDG)

136 Scott Walker is a great governor for Wisconsin. But like his horse, he's a gelding.
i.e. GOPe castration; the elimination of hormonally driven behavior associated with a stallion, allows a male to be calmer and better-behaved, making the animal quieter, gentler and potentially more suitable as an everyday working animal or politician.

Trump on the other hand isn't.

Posted by: jacke at May 09, 2016 10:54 PM (i8Shl)

137 97 " Tornado footage is incredible. "

It is. The noise always gets me. An utter, relentless ear-splitting din.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 10:37 PM (txsZC)

When the northern suburbs of Dallas had the horrible hailstorm about a month, I initially thought it was a tornado. I've only been in hailstorms like that two other times in my life. My poor wife, who hates storms, was terrified and crying.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at May 09, 2016 10:54 PM (dPpmC)

138 I've been reading about a Constitutional Convention.

Turns out it shares the shit out of a lot of people. No one really trusts anyone else in DC today to "fix" or add any amendments, the right way. Too great a chance that by the time this group of reps are done, the People will have no rights left at all.

I can kind of understand that line of thinking.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 10:55 PM (ntObR)

139 How about "The Cancer Alien" ie a YouTuber describing Adrian Wu, a fashion designer who wants to make "the third gender".

Oh, and he found a doctor in Canada (natural) who is giving him the chemicals Adrian needs to aid his transformation.

http://tinyurl.com/hr2zk9w

***

What the actual fuck?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2016 10:55 PM (SEXy3)

140 Looking at that heart reminds me of why I never had the slightest desire to go into medicine.

Good ONT NDH. thanks.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 09, 2016 10:55 PM (P8951)

141 Ricardo, LOL. I've checked the pics, these days Twain looks like she's at the end of her rope. (pun intended)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 10:56 PM (ntObR)

142 "God Bless those who toiled to create this remarkable device."

C'mon! They were just lucky!

Posted by: Obama at May 09, 2016 10:56 PM (yODqO)

143 The convention proposes. Congress can propose. The states can only petition Congress to call a convention for proposing.
Posted by: The Constitutional Hat

This reading is not supported anywhere in the text.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 09, 2016 10:56 PM (OcD4G)

144 "hat bike is asinine."

Agree. W/O pedals and gears you can never get the thing fast enough to maintain stability. See how he's weaving almost constantly.

So, get nowhere particularly fast and constant risking injury.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 10:57 PM (txsZC)

145 The founders were very much aware of the
possibility of a federal government that took too much power onto itself
and ignored the desires of the states. Thus, they were big fans of
checks and balances, like this one, that distributed power.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 10:52 PM (R+30W)

You can never have too many tools for thwarting the ambitions of grasping authoritarians. While I'm fairly certain that they'd try to weasel out of any amendments passed in an Article V convention with their usual "that depends on what the definition of is is" kind of linguistic chicanery, it's a solution that has the virtue of never having been tried.

In an age when all of the conventional solutions are failing, that alone gives it a certain appeal.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 09, 2016 10:57 PM (HalrA)

146 "Despite the sad stories that inevitably arise from such storms, I can't
imagine how many lives have been saved since the invention of Doppler
radar."

Doppler radar is a tool of the white patriarchy.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 09, 2016 10:57 PM (oKE6c)

147 >>Oh, and he found a doctor in Canada (natural) who is giving him the chemicals Adrian needs to aid his transformation.

The Neolutions!!!!!!!

Is the doctor's name "Leakey"?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 09, 2016 10:57 PM (NOIQH)

148 Stormchasers be crazy, but that was some awesome footage.

Also, it appears the black-footed ferrets are out for the night.

Posted by: sinalco at May 09, 2016 10:57 PM (yODqO)

149 I can kind of understand that line of thinking.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 10:55 PM (ntObR)

****

A Constitutional Convention is very different from an Article V Convention. The media conflates them precisely because a Constitutional Convention scares everyone.

Be better than that. Educate people as to the vast differences.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 10:58 PM (YLidQ)

150 Man, Boshi, I really, really would like to immigrate to the world you inhabit. Because, brother, that is one island of imagination.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 09, 2016 10:58 PM (OcD4G)

151 Just watched the twister video. What a monster!

'Nader chasers are nuts.

Coming home from my brother's place one afternoon, 'way up ahead of me, high in the partly-cloudy sky, I saw a little twister start descending from a white cloud. No way it would be sustained, no way it would hit the ground, just a little short-lived dust devilish thing.

I took a quick left, just in case.

Now, the one that hit two blocks from where I lived in Tulsa in '74 - that was a real train-overhead moment. Stories I could tell of that night...!

Hm. Storm's picking up here at the moment. Better head home.

L8R

Posted by: mindful webworker said airily at May 09, 2016 10:59 PM (5a8XA)

152 138 I've been reading about a Constitutional Convention.

Turns out it shares the shit out of a lot of people. No one really trusts anyone else in DC today to "fix" or add any amendments, the right way. Too great a chance that by the time this group of reps are done, the People will have no rights left at all.

I can kind of understand that line of thinking.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 10:55 PM (ntObR)

++++

I would say you have it precisely backwards. The people who are afraid are the DC types. The people those DC types are afraid of is the people out in the 50 states. A constitutional convention would take the amendment process entirely out of DC. And those DC types are very suspicious of a process that is completely out of their control.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 10:59 PM (R+30W)

153 C'mon! They were just lucky!

Posted by: Obama

Hey sparky, remember. Aluminum is not magnetic.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at May 09, 2016 11:01 PM (+1T7c)

154 The third sex has already been established. Get to know your appliances better.

Posted by: Cy.Borg.Robot.Drifter at May 09, 2016 11:01 PM (BO/km)

155 "My poor wife, who hates storms, was terrified and crying."

I'm sorry for your wife.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 11:01 PM (txsZC)

156 Despite the sad stories that inevitably arise from such storms, I can't imagine how many lives have been saved since the invention of Doppler radar.

Halliburton controls the weather, don't you know.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at May 09, 2016 11:02 PM (0mRoj)

157 Is the doctor's name "Leakey"?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 09, 2016 10:57 PM (NOIQH)
Depends.

It's like I don't even know you people any more.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 09, 2016 11:02 PM (oKE6c)

158
Doppler radar is a tool of the white patriarchy.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 09, 2016 10:57 PM (oKE6c)

Well to the inventor goes the spoils or something like that

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 09, 2016 11:03 PM (voOPb)

159 The third sex has already been established. Get to know your appliances better.

Posted by: Cy.Borg.Robot

Your plugs are now omni- positional.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 09, 2016 11:04 PM (OcD4G)

160 The purpose of that extra method of proposing amendments is so that the states can force the process if Congress is unwilling to move. That is the whole purpose. If Congress got to decide, why even bother having the second method? In your tortured reading, it would serve no useful purpose.

The language originally specified that states petition the Congress to propose an amendment, which the Congress would then have to do.

That was changed from requiring Congress propose an amendment to Congress having to to call a convention for proposing an amendment.

The state no longer could petition for an amendment, but for a convention for proposing an amendment..

Posted by: The Constitutional Hat at May 09, 2016 11:04 PM (vBeA5)

161 154 The third sex has already been established. Get to know your appliances better.
Posted by: Cy.Borg.Robot.Drifter at May 09, 2016 11:01 PM (BO/km)
---------------------------
I love you.

Posted by: Roomba at May 09, 2016 11:04 PM (T/5A0)

162 Medtronic, the maker of the DBS device as well as my insulin pump, has had to lay off a bunch of people as a result of the durable medical device tax that came with Obamacare.
Where you and I see a medical miracle, the democrats see a new source of revenue with which to buy votes.

Posted by: OU_Gryphon at May 09, 2016 11:04 PM (wbWlF)

163 Convention of States! Trump stops the hemorrhaging and COS restores State sovereignty. Trump won't like it, but by then, screw him.

Posted by: jacke at May 09, 2016 11:04 PM (i8Shl)

164 149 I can kind of understand that line of thinking.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 10:55 PM (ntObR)

****

A Constitutional Convention is very different from an Article V Convention. The media conflates them precisely because a Constitutional Convention scares everyone.

Be better than that. Educate people as to the vast differences.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 10:58 PM (YLidQ)

++++

If someone says The Constitutional Convention, they are referring to the specific one that occurred in 1787. But, if someone just says a constitutional convention, what do you think they are referring to if not an article 5 convention? I think the terms are interchangeable, but if there is a difference, please illuminate me.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 11:05 PM (R+30W)

165 MWNP, AnonYMous, you may very well be correct. In fact I hope you are.

At this stage I kind of feel like We The People are a family that's stuck with an old car with a busted radiator, in the middle of Death Valley. At this stage, the car (constitution) will only go 5 miles at a time before it needs days and days more to cool off and recover... yet we're hundreds if not thousands of miles away from home.

So here comes the kindly homeless-looking stranger who says he can fix it (the convention). Do we trust him to get under the hood and fiddle with the engine? Hmmm...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:05 PM (ntObR)

166 Watching Apocalypto for the 20th time. Gibson makes the best sub-titled movies ever.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 09, 2016 11:06 PM (MNgU2)

167 The third sex has already been established. Get to know your appliances better.

Oh, I have.

Posted by: Dr. L. Ron Hoover, founder of The Church of Appliantology at May 09, 2016 11:06 PM (T/cxb)

168 162 Medtronic, the maker of the DBS device as well as my insulin pump, has had to lay off a bunch of people as a result of the durable medical device tax that came with Obamacare.
Where you and I see a medical miracle, the democrats see a new source of revenue with which to buy votes.
Posted by: OU_Gryphon at May 09, 2016 11:04 PM (wbWlF)

We are all just tax cattle, sheep to be shorn.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at May 09, 2016 11:06 PM (0mRoj)

169 Oh. Yeah. And there was greater than 4" hail in OK today as well.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2016 11:06 PM (SEXy3)

170 Of Course I Still Love You is approaching the pier.

Posted by: rickl at May 09, 2016 11:07 PM (sdi6R)

171
the durable medical device tax that came with Obamacare.

Wasn't that one of the things they were going to "fix?"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 09, 2016 11:07 PM (k4M/B)

172 >>Depends. It's like I don't even know you people any more.

Heh. I was referring to "Orphan Black," where there's a cult that is into body modification as the next step in evolution. One character had a tail added (that wagged, another one had a bifurcated wang....

Posted by: Lizzy at May 09, 2016 11:07 PM (NOIQH)

173 155 "My poor wife, who hates storms, was terrified and crying."

I'm sorry for your wife.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 11:01 PM (txsZC)

Thanks, Ricardo.

If you hung around me for a while, you'd feel even more sorry for her.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at May 09, 2016 11:07 PM (dPpmC)

174 FERRETS!

Posted by: The Guy Who Says FERRETS! at May 09, 2016 11:07 PM (sl+zA)

175 "Of Course I Still Love You is approaching the pier."

Bring me up to speed. Another landing today?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 11:08 PM (txsZC)

176
161 154 The third sex has already been established. Get to know your appliances better.
Posted by: Cy.Borg.Robot.Drifter at May 09, 2016 11:01 PM (BO/km)
---------------------------
I love you.
Posted by: Roomba at May 09, 2016 11:04 PM (T/5A0)

You get swept up in the moment pretty easily, don't you?

Posted by: eman at May 09, 2016 11:08 PM (MQEz6)

177
Of Course I Still Love You is approaching the pier.
Posted by: rickl

I remember that happening when I was in the Navy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 09, 2016 11:08 PM (k4M/B)

178 the durable medical device tax that came with Obamacare.

Wasn't that one of the things they were going to "fix?"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 09, 2016 11:07 PM (k4M/B)

No tax on Chinese-made artificial hips, because not durable.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2016 11:09 PM (8p7pX)

179 Ron! How's it hanging? We missed you down at the White Zone.

Posted by: Cy.Borg.Robot.Drifter at May 09, 2016 11:09 PM (BO/km)

180 >>Do we trust him to get under the hood and fiddle with the engine? Hmmm...
-----
At this point I'm ready. It can't be worse than what we have

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 09, 2016 11:09 PM (voOPb)

181 If someone says The Constitutional Convention, they are referring to the specific one that occurred in 1787. But, if someone just says a constitutional convention, what do you think they are referring to if not an article 5 convention? I think the terms are interchangeable, but if there is a difference, please illuminate me.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 11:05 PM (R+30W)

****

Though they seem the same, my understanding is that a Constitutional Convention opens up a rewrite, while an Article V allows amendments only.

I freely admit I could be wrong here.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 11:10 PM (YLidQ)

182 Bonk!

Posted by: Roomba at May 09, 2016 11:10 PM (T/5A0)

183 You get swept up in the moment pretty easily, don't you?

Posted by: eman at May 09, 2016 11:08 PM (MQEz6)

And if Roomba gets inconveniently knocked up, she can fix it by going to Womb-ba, the robot abortionist at Planned Robothood.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2016 11:10 PM (8p7pX)

184 Doppler radar is a tool of the white patriarchy.

***

it must be. How many urban dwellers reside in the wide open plains of Oklahoma?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2016 11:11 PM (SEXy3)

185 169 Oh. Yeah. And there was greater than 4" hail in OK today as well.
-----
Yay! Hellen Keller hail.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 09, 2016 11:11 PM (voOPb)

186 175
Bring me up to speed. Another landing today?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 11:08 PM (txsZC)

The landing was on Friday. Now it's being brought into Port Canaveral.

http://portcanaveralwebcam.com/

Posted by: rickl at May 09, 2016 11:11 PM (sdi6R)

187 The convention proposes. Congress can propose. The states can only petition Congress to call a convention for proposing.

Posted by: The Constitutional Hat

This reading is not supported anywhere in the text.

According to the text, who proposes?

"The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution"

"a convention for proposing amendments"

The verb propose means the same thing. The Framers were not Humpty-Dumpty. It is clear that the conventioin exists "for proposing amendments"

Now, lets look at the states who are limited to requiring the Congress call a convention upon "application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states"

The Congress either proposed directly, or calls a convention to do the same when 2/3 of the states apply for the Congress to call one.

The states can not call a convention directly, and any such directly called "convention of states" would not be a body that the Constitution would recognize as authorized to propose amendments.

Posted by: The Constitutional Hat at May 09, 2016 11:11 PM (vBeA5)

188 114- Northwest Arizona right on the Nevada Arizona line

Posted by: Retire John McCain at May 09, 2016 11:11 PM (kUGuL)

189 Yes, I'd love to run wearing a damn bike.

Posted by: NCKate at May 09, 2016 11:12 PM (4bHkw)

190 Beware of democrats promising a fix on Tuesday for a hamburger today.

Posted by: OU_Gryphon at May 09, 2016 11:12 PM (wbWlF)

191 You can hear audio here:

http://spacex.yasiu.pl/

Posted by: rickl at May 09, 2016 11:12 PM (sdi6R)

192 "The landing was on Friday. Now it's being brought into Port Canaveral. "

Ahhh....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 11:13 PM (txsZC)

193 Hola, amigoz en loz intertuboz!

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 11:13 PM (EzgxV)

194 160 The purpose of that extra method of proposing amendments is so that the states can force the process if Congress is unwilling to move. That is the whole purpose. If Congress got to decide, why even bother having the second method? In your tortured reading, it would serve no useful purpose.

The language originally specified that states petition the Congress to propose an amendment, which the Congress would then have to do.

That was changed from requiring Congress propose an amendment to Congress having to to call a convention for proposing an amendment.

The state no longer could petition for an amendment, but for a convention for proposing an amendment..

Posted by: The Constitutional Hat at May 09, 2016 11:04 PM (vBeA5)

++++

Not a convention for proposing an amendment That would suggest that Congress could specify the amendment up front and thereby limit the scope of the convention.

That's not what our constitution says. What Congress must do, if petitioned by 2/3rds of the states, is to call a convention for proposing amendments. What amendments end up getting proposed, that is for the convention to decide. Not Congress.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 11:13 PM (R+30W)

195 Doppler radar is a tool of the white patriarchy.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 09, 2016 10:57 PM (oKE6c)

Well to the inventor goes the spoils or something like that

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 09, 2016 11:03 PM (voOPb)

Well obviously we need to redistribute the spoils, from the winners to the losers. Duh.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 09, 2016 11:13 PM (oKE6c)

196
Tonight's ONT brought to you by this reminder of what could have been

Mah first choice. But Losers can't be choosers.

Walker didn't understand why the 2008 election was decided. He didn't apparently understand how the 2012 election happened either.

Both were instructive. Both contained vital information. And our Betters in the GOP ignored it all.

Love what they've done with the wall paper.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 09, 2016 11:13 PM (OcD4G)

197 "Northwest Arizona right on the Nevada Arizona line"

Beautiful country. Sounds north of Kingman?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 11:14 PM (txsZC)

198 No tax on Chinese-made artificial hips, because not durable.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2016 11:09 PM (8p7pX)

Twenty minutes later and ...

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 09, 2016 11:14 PM (oKE6c)

199 Retire: sounds like you're in Bullhead City.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:15 PM (ntObR)

200 The Article V Convention is a nice idea, but a waste of time.

Look how long it's taken just to try and get one called. Look at all that has happened in the meantime. Look at all the stuff coming down the pipe.

Events are moving at warp speed now. The Article V process takes too long, is subject to repeated delays, manipulations, etc., and can even be easily delayed or thwarted for endless amounts of time.

Guns are the only thing that's gonna fix this.

Posted by: Blano at May 09, 2016 11:15 PM (heN73)

201 The states can not call a convention directly, and any such directly called "convention of states" would not be a body that the Constitution would recognize as authorized to propose amendments.
Posted by: The Constitutional Hat at May 09, 2016 11:11 PM (vBeA5)

*****

Can 3/4 of the States not call an Article V on their own, bypassing Congress as was the Founder's intent in dire times?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 11:15 PM (YLidQ)

202 Walker didn't understand why the 2008 election was decided. He didn't apparently understand how the 2012 election happened either.

---------

Perry didn't even seem to know where he was. WTF???

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 09, 2016 11:16 PM (sl+zA)

203 184 Doppler radar is a tool of the white patriarchy.
***
it must be. How many urban dwellers reside in the wide open plains of Oklahoma?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2016 11:11 PM (SEXy3)

First invented by Africans, stolen by the white devils. Should be called "Shabazz radar."

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 09, 2016 11:16 PM (oKE6c)

204 Regardless of what anyone thinks here, the question is if a Dem Congress does whatever they want with an Article V convention, with the Supreme Court to back them up?

Is there any doubt tht if this occured that the Left would push a full court press and promise and lie to get exactly what they want ratified?

Do you trust any branch of the Federal government, or even any banch of the state governments to not buckle under when the Left unleash EVERYTHING they have?

Ignored language is still better than replaced language. No matter how weak, that language is a check upon the people running the government, and serves as a reminder of what was. I dare not gamble everything on a slim bet.

Posted by: The Constitutional Hat at May 09, 2016 11:17 PM (vBeA5)

205 199- you're right on. Moved from Central WI in the 80's because of the horseshit weather there.

Posted by: Retire John McCain at May 09, 2016 11:18 PM (kUGuL)

206 California has its downsides, oh yes it does. But at least -- no tornadoes. Those look nasty.

OK, yeah, earthquakes.

Posted by: Splunge at May 09, 2016 11:18 PM (iMxBJ)

207 "sounds like you're in Bullhead City."

Bluest water I've ever seen. The Colorado flowing through.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 11:19 PM (txsZC)

208 >>Well obviously we need to redistribute the spoils, from the winners to the losers. Duh.
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My bad!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 09, 2016 11:19 PM (voOPb)

209 This isn't the first time Paltrow has given some

serious thought to our vaginas; there was that time she recommended that

we try vaginal steaming.
Posted by: James T Kirk at May 09, 2016 10:28 PM

Not sushi?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 09, 2016 11:19 PM (oKE6c)

210 That's not what our constitution says. What Congress must do, if petitioned by 2/3rds of the states, is to call a convention for proposing amendments. What amendments end up getting proposed, that is for the convention to decide. Not Congress.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 11:13 PM (R+30W)

That's exactly what I've been saying.

Posted by: The Constitutional Hat at May 09, 2016 11:20 PM (vBeA5)

211 That heart beating on its own is an education. By which I mean, disgusting. Also, it suggests this Raising Arizona bit of dialogue:

Glen: Say that reminds me, how'd you get that kid so darn fast? Me and Dot went in to adopt on account a' somethin' went wrong with my semen, and they said we had to wait five years for a healthy white baby.
I said, "Healthy white baby? Five years? What else you got?" Said they got two Koreans and a nigra born with his heart on the outside.
It's a crazy world.

H.I.: Someone oughta sell tickets.

Glen: Sure, I'd buy one.

Posted by: Splunge at May 09, 2016 11:21 PM (iMxBJ)

212 Ignored language is still better than replaced language. No matter how weak, that language is a check upon the people running the government, and serves as a reminder of what was. I dare not gamble everything on a slim bet.
Posted by: The Constitutional Hat at May 09, 2016 11:17 PM (vBeA5)

****

As I mentioned earlier, we are at the point of doing this, getting more extreme, or just letting things happen. You seem not to want this because you are ignoring the inevitable. Give me your answer if not Article V. I'll wait right here.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 11:21 PM (YLidQ)

213 "California has its downsides, oh yes it does. But at least -- no tornadoes. Those look nasty. "

I have an Aunt, grew up in Texas but married and moved to Cali' early. She will not come to Texas in Spring or Summer because of a deathly fear of tornadoes.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 11:21 PM (txsZC)

214 California has its downsides, oh yes it does. But at least -- no tornadoes. Those look nasty.

You're funny.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yhfokqn (sfw)

Posted by: Dr. L. Ron Hoover, founder of The Church of Appliantology at May 09, 2016 11:21 PM (T/cxb)

215 201 The states can not call a convention directly, and any such directly called "convention of states" would not be a body that the Constitution would recognize as authorized to propose amendments.
Posted by: The Constitutional Hat at May 09, 2016 11:11 PM (vBeA5)

*****

Can 3/4 of the States not call an Article V on their own, bypassing Congress as was the Founder's intent in dire times?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 11:15 PM (YLidQ)

++++

Not quite. The text says that if 2/3rds of the states petition Congress, Congress shall convene the convention. Once the convention is convened, it takes 3/4ths of the states to pass an amendment (or amendments).

Congress still plays a role, but if the states have the 2/3rds wanting a convention, Congress can't just decide not to act.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 11:21 PM (R+30W)

216 Anerica is being raped and only one guy stood up and said so.

The rest kept saying, "Hi, I'm Dick Munch, and I'm running for President."

Posted by: eman at May 09, 2016 11:21 PM (MQEz6)

217 118 88 If Hillary chooses a Castro for her running mate, she shouldn't piss around with the B team. Go Fidel or go home!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2016 10:34 PM
--------------
Damned straight!
The added bonus is that he's about the only running mate that could make her look young and healthy!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 09, 2016 10:48 PM (T/5A0)

Added bonus: he's very leery of cigars after that unfortunate misunderstanding with the CIA back when.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 09, 2016 11:22 PM (oKE6c)

218 We'll add any damn "amendment" to the Constitution that we desire!!!

Posted by: blacks robed thugs, sitting at their benches at May 09, 2016 11:22 PM (H9MG5)

219 fucking n

Posted by: eman at May 09, 2016 11:22 PM (MQEz6)

220 205......you're right on. Moved from Central WI in the 80's because of the horseshit weather there.

And it hasn't changed

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 09, 2016 11:22 PM (voOPb)

221 200
Events are moving at warp speed now. The Article V process takes too long, is subject to repeated delays, manipulations, etc., and can even be easily delayed or thwarted for endless amounts of time.

Guns are the only thing that's gonna fix this.
Posted by: Blano at May 09, 2016 11:15 PM (heN73)

I think we have to try the Article V convention before we resort to guns.

Then we can say that we did everything we could to do it peacefully.

Posted by: rickl at May 09, 2016 11:22 PM (sdi6R)

222 214 You're funny.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/yhfokqn (sfw)
Posted by: Dr. L. Ron Hoover, founder of The Church of Appliantology at May 09, 2016 11:21 PM (T/cxb)

Well, crap.

Posted by: Splunge at May 09, 2016 11:22 PM (iMxBJ)

223 And don't you dare go off and try to do something that's actually available in the Constitution to remedy that!!!

Posted by: black robed thugs, sitting at their benches at May 09, 2016 11:23 PM (H9MG5)

224 207- "Bluest water I've ever seen. The Colorado flowing through."
Believe it or not it's still nice and clear, cool, with plenty of stripper bass trout.

Posted by: Retire John McCain at May 09, 2016 11:23 PM (kUGuL)

225 "fucking n"

Come again?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 11:24 PM (txsZC)

226 Believe it or not it's still nice and clear, cool, with plenty of stripper bass trout.

Posted by: Retire John McCain at May 09, 2016 11:23 PM (kUGuL)

How do bass trout strip? Do they wear pasties?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 09, 2016 11:24 PM (oKE6c)

227 I think we have to try the Article V convention before we resort to guns.

Then we can say that we did everything we could to do it peacefully.

Posted by: rickl at May 09, 2016 11:22 PM (sdi6R)

I think we need to try it because it has a chance, however slim, of actually working.

Anything that can avoid the soul-sucking horrors of the alternatives of war or surrender, if feasible, is worth considering.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 09, 2016 11:24 PM (HalrA)

228 Regardless of what anyone thinks here, the question is if a Dem Congress does whatever they want with an Article V convention, with the Supreme Court to back them up?

Is there any doubt that if this occurred that the Left would push a full court press and promise and lie to get exactly what they want ratified?

No, and it's an irrelevant interruption.

In a States quest for an Amendment, strangely enough the states get a choice in the matter.

Yes, there's a doubt in terms of the states, if not only because of the GOP domination in state's legislature, but because you're simply precluding the idea that there are a majority of GOP on the state level.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 09, 2016 11:24 PM (OcD4G)

229 A constitutional convention, eh?

A way to write more words that will be ignored by the Supreme Court when they are inconvenient (Hi, John!)

A way to energize every progressive, commie, SJW, and every other synonym for "authoritarian a$$hole" you can come up with, into finally driving a stake into that document they hate so much.

Posted by: Splunge at May 09, 2016 11:25 PM (iMxBJ)

230 plenty of stripper bass trout.

Posted by: Retire John McCain at May 09, 2016 11:23 PM (kUGuL)
-------------------------"Showing results for STRIPED bass trout . . ."

Posted by: iforgot at May 09, 2016 11:25 PM (5o5ek)

231
226 Believe it or not it's still nice and clear, cool, with plenty of stripper bass trout.

Posted by: Retire John McCain at May 09, 2016 11:23 PM (kUGuL)

How do bass trout strip? Do they wear pasties?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 09, 2016 11:24 PM (oKE6c)

I'm thinking I don't want to know.

Posted by: eman at May 09, 2016 11:25 PM (MQEz6)

232 82 There were less than 200 viewers a couple of hours ago; now it's up to 759.
Posted by: rickl at May 09, 2016 10:33 PM (sdi6R)

That's what you get for watching a Padres game.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 09, 2016 11:26 PM (oKE6c)

233 225 "fucking n"

Come again?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 11:24 PM (txsZC)

Did he even come the first time.

I blame you Jay

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 09, 2016 11:26 PM (voOPb)

234 Congress still plays a role, but if the states have the 2/3rds wanting a convention, Congress can't just decide not to act.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 11:21 PM (R+30W)

***

That is for a Constitutiknal Convention, not Article V. Please stop conflating them.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 11:26 PM (YLidQ)

235 So, has anyone done research on the alt-Right's connection to anime?

Posted by: West Town at May 09, 2016 11:26 PM (dx6bM)

236 "Believe it or not it's still nice and clear, cool, with plenty of stripper bass trout. "

Believe. Driving through I had to stop there around the bridge and just drive down and look at it. Never saw anything quite like it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 11:26 PM (txsZC)

237 How do bass trout strip? Do they wear pasties?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 09, 2016 11:24 PM (oKE6c)

Every Friday, 11pm at the Losers Lounge in the Riviera Hotel in Laughlin. Three drink minimum.

"Put your hands together for... Bluefin!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:27 PM (ntObR)

238 Irrelevant Boshi, it's good that you're arguing the Leftist's turn. I will never discourage you from doing so.

The Right needs to hear the potential arguments and stupidity in advance.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 09, 2016 11:27 PM (OcD4G)

239 237 How do bass trout strip? Do they wear pasties?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 09, 2016 11:24 PM (oKE6c)
Every Friday, 11pm at the Losers Lounge in the Riviera Hotel in Laughlin. Three drink minimum.
"Put your hands together for... Bluefin!!"
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:27 PM (ntObR)

What - no "pole" jokes? I say again: it's like I don't even know you people any more.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 09, 2016 11:28 PM (oKE6c)

240 Jay, I shoulda had a V8.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:28 PM (ntObR)

241 Shit. Where is the #twoweeks edit button.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 11:28 PM (YLidQ)

242 204 Regardless of what anyone thinks here, the question is if a Dem Congress does whatever they want with an Article V convention, with the Supreme Court to back them up?

Is there any doubt tht if this occured that the Left would push a full court press and promise and lie to get exactly what they want ratified?

Do you trust any branch of the Federal government, or even any banch of the state governments to not buckle under when the Left unleash EVERYTHING they have?

Ignored language is still better than replaced language. No matter how weak, that language is a check upon the people running the government, and serves as a reminder of what was. I dare not gamble everything on a slim bet.

Posted by: The Constitutional Hat at May 09, 2016 11:17 PM (vBeA5)

++++

I think it is unlikely that the Left has enough control over 38 state governments so that they would be able to make any changes desirable to the Left to the US Constitution.

I think there may be a better shot at getting something the Right would like though this process. In other words, I think that the math is better for the Right using a convention. With that method, you need the initial 2/3 of the states, and then 3/4 of the states. Which in effect means you need 3/4 of the states.

Using the traditional amendment process, you need 2/3 of the House plus 2/3 of the Senate, and then 3/4 of the states.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 11:29 PM (R+30W)

243 A way to energize every progressive, commie, SJW,
and every other synonym for "authoritarian a$$hole" you can come up
with, into finally driving a stake into that document they hate so much.

Posted by: Splunge at May 09, 2016 11:25 PM (iMxBJ)

At least their attempt to do that would show them for the usurpers they really are. It would be nice to have them reacting to us, for a change. Having the initiative and the moral high ground at the same time would be really nice.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 09, 2016 11:29 PM (HalrA)

244 ""Put your hands together for... Bluefin!!"

I think I'll pass.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 11:29 PM (txsZC)

245 I blame you Jay

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 09, 2016 11:26 PM (voOPb)
What did I do? Blame Bush. Everyone else does.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 09, 2016 11:29 PM (oKE6c)

246 "How do bass trout strip? Do they wear pasties?
"
Fingers not as good as the brain..was suppose to be striped bass and trout
But you do need a pole.....

Posted by: Retire John McCain at May 09, 2016 11:29 PM (kUGuL)

247 >>>The third sex has already been established. Get to know your appliances better.
Posted by: Cy.Borg.Robot.Drifter at May 09, 2016 11:01 PM (BO/km)

---------------------------
I love you.
Posted by: Roomba at May 09, 2016 11:04 PM (T/5A0)<<<

Okay... now I'm skeered.

Posted by: the Brave Little Toaster at May 09, 2016 11:29 PM (H9MG5)

248 234 Congress still plays a role, but if the states have the 2/3rds wanting a convention, Congress can't just decide not to act.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 11:21 PM (R+30W)

***

That is for a Constitutiknal Convention, not Article V. Please stop conflating them.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 11:26 PM (YLidQ)

++++

They are the same. Disagree? Please link a source that backs you up.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 11:31 PM (R+30W)

249 243 At least their attempt to do that would show them for the usurpers they really are.

After the Obama Presidency, what more possible evidence could anyone need?

Posted by: Splunge at May 09, 2016 11:31 PM (iMxBJ)

250 >>>What did I do? Blame Bush. Everyone else does.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 09, 2016 11:31 PM (voOPb)

251 "But you do need a pole....."

Well, he does have a point.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 11:31 PM (txsZC)

252 I think we have to try the Article V convention before we resort to guns.

Then we can say that we did everything we could to do it peacefully.
Posted by: rickl at May 09, 2016 11:22 PM (sdi6R)

The liberal scum states have the ability to muck up, screw up and undermine the process all the way.

I understand what you're saying, but as mentioned given how long it's taking, and how fast history is moving, it'll be too late, if it ever happened at all.

Posted by: Blano at May 09, 2016 11:31 PM (heN73)

253 Arf. Arf arf arf arf arf!!!!

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary! 2016 Barking For Us at May 09, 2016 11:31 PM (sl+zA)

254 217---Added bonus: he's very leery of cigars after that unfortunate misunderstanding with the CIA back when.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 09, 2016 11:22 PM
-------------------
Hey, yeah!
Hillary and Fidel could form a special bond based on their shared Post Traumatic Cigar Syndrome.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 09, 2016 11:32 PM (T/5A0)

255 As I mentioned earlier, we are at the point of doing this, getting more extreme, or just letting things happen. You seem not to want this because you are ignoring the inevitable. Give me your answer if not Article V. I'll wait right here.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 11:21 PM (YLidQ)

Out of the frying pan and into the fryer?

The ediface, even if it is just that, does mean something and will have a positive effect into the future.

It is foolish to think that this is as bad as it gets, and that the ultimate gamble isn't that big of a gamble after all, or one where the only possible change from the present is a positive one.

Give 'em the chance to pull a "year zero", and they'll do it.

Me, I'm going to try to presreve as much as I can in the hopes that some part of it lasts, if not for the near future, then for what comes after that.

Posted by: The Constitutional Hat at May 09, 2016 11:33 PM (vBeA5)

256 ; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.

So we can't marginalize Cali for mental deficiency.

Posted by: Jean at May 09, 2016 11:33 PM (cXiMR)

257 They are the same. Disagree? Please link a source that backs you up.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 11:31 PM (R+30W)

****

Sure.
http://www.conventionofstates.com/
constitutional_convention_vs_a_convention_of_states

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 11:34 PM (YLidQ)

258 Axl Rose now lead singer for ACDC on tour in europe

Posted by: blogforce one at May 09, 2016 11:34 PM (sCTj+)

259 I live not far at all from a very acclaimed sushi place. Am debating whether to try something from there tonight.

What would folks here go for? The "In-N-Out" roll for $10 which is crab salad topped with shrimp, or the "Volcano" roll (same price) which is baked salmon and halibut with spicy mayo?

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:34 PM (ntObR)

260 256 ; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.
So we can't marginalize Cali for mental deficiency.
Posted by: Jean at May 09, 2016 11:33 PM (cXiMR)

We're suffraging like crazy out here!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 09, 2016 11:35 PM (oKE6c)

261 Me, I'm going to try to presreve as much as I can in the hopes that some part of it lasts, if not for the near future, then for what comes after that.

Posted by: The Constitutional Hat at May 09, 2016 11:33 PM (vBeA5)

Let's not talk of holding on to pieces, and preserving portions.

Let's speak of victory.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 09, 2016 11:35 PM (HalrA)

262 Arf. Arf arf arf arf arf!!!!

*hic*

Sadly that was her most coherent stump speech to date.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 09, 2016 11:35 PM (T/cxb)

263 Me, I'm going to try to preserve as much as I can in the hopes that some part of it lasts, if not for the near future, then for what comes after that.

Posted by: The Constitutional Hat

Nothing is preserved by granting the Left 3 SCOTUS decisions.

A passive-vote for Turnip is a vote for 20 years of SCOTUS ruling.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 09, 2016 11:35 PM (OcD4G)

264 I think it is unlikely that the Left has enough control over 38 state governments so that they would be able to make any changes desirable to the Left to the US Constitution.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 11:29 PM (R+30W)

Pro-tip: The state legislatures' votes can be circumvented by calling for ratifying conventions. That's how they did it with the 21st Amendment.

Posted by: The Constitutional Hat at May 09, 2016 11:35 PM (vBeA5)

265 258 Axl Rose now lead singer for ACDC on tour in europe
Posted by: blogforce one at May 09, 2016 11:34 PM (sCTj+)

---------

Van Halen hardest hit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 09, 2016 11:36 PM (sl+zA)

266 "So we can't marginalize Cali for mental deficiency."

Can we get some crow-bars and pry it loose? Maybe it'll float away?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 11:36 PM (txsZC)

267 What would folks here go for? The "In-N-Out" roll for $10 which is crab salad topped with shrimp, or the "Volcano" roll (same price) which is baked salmon and halibut with spicy mayo?

***

The volcano in this case although I prefer individual pieces of tuna and smoke salmon.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2016 11:36 PM (SEXy3)

268 Let's not talk of holding on to pieces, and preserving portions.

Let's speak of victory.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 09, 2016 11:35 PM (HalrA)

Let's speak of a suicide charge.

Posted by: The Constitutional Hat at May 09, 2016 11:36 PM (vBeA5)

269 Ricardo, don't maroon me with this mess!! These people are crazy!!!!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:37 PM (ntObR)

270 re an Article 5 convention --

Yeah, it might happen 5 to 10 years down the road from the time the States approve it, as the lawyers and politicos (BIRM) wrangle over every word and file innumerable lawsuits, all of which must go before the SC where Roberts declares the whole thing a tax.

And that is my *optimistic* view.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 09, 2016 11:37 PM (gyKtp)

271 That is an amazing stealth ferret.

Why did they name it Blackfoot ferret? Did they become endangered because the tribe ran too many over a cliff to make ferret jerky?

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 09, 2016 11:37 PM (FtrY1)

272 Evening horde.

Going to the gym tonight I thought we had an active shooter situation with the amount of cop cars hauling ass from multiple directions.

Turns out it was a shooting but just a domestic violence type. No deaths.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 09, 2016 11:37 PM (hlMPp)

273 259 - Both. In-N-out for breakfast and the Volcano for dinner

Posted by: Retire John McCain at May 09, 2016 11:37 PM (kUGuL)

274 Niedermeyer, thanks.

There's also the "Sunset on Second Street" roll, $13, which is spicy shrimp and crab topped with tuna.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:38 PM (ntObR)

275 "We're suffraging like crazy out here!"

Dude, I am suffraging the shit out of it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 11:38 PM (txsZC)

276 One I won't be ordering is the "Oh Crab" roll, $15.

Soft shell crab with eel on top.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:38 PM (ntObR)

277 *Ahem*

Cliffs are our gigs.

Posted by: The Lemmings at May 09, 2016 11:39 PM (sl+zA)

278 Yeah, it might happen 5 to 10 years down the road from the time the States approve it, as the lawyers and politicos (BIRM) wrangle over every word and file innumerable lawsuits, all of which must go before the SC where Roberts declares the whole thing a tax.

And that is my *optimistic* view.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 09, 2016 11:37 PM (gyKtp)

*****

Per my original comment, find me another peaceful option please.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 11:39 PM (YLidQ)

279 One I won't be ordering is the "Oh Crab" roll, $15.

Soft shell crab with eel on top.

***

I'd rather eat a mud pie than soft shell crab

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2016 11:39 PM (SEXy3)

280 Australian man who smokes up to a gram of cannabis per day has narrowly escaped amputation after becoming the first in the country to be diagnosed with a rare disease linked to cannabis use.

After an ulcer on his toe failed to heal, the heavy cannabis user consulted Frankston Hospital in Melbourne, where he was diagnosed with cannabis arteritis, an extremely rare disease which causes a build-up of plaque around the arteries, thereby decreasing blood flow to the limbs.

The patient, who has not been identified, was treated with a balloon angioplasty, where a collapsed balloon, known as a balloon catheter, is placed in the area which is constricted in order to inflate it to a healthy size.

Posted by: James T Kirk at May 09, 2016 11:39 PM (e8kgV)

281 Niedermeyer, LOL. You like eel?

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:40 PM (ntObR)

282 "Ricardo, don't maroon me with this mess!! These people are crazy!!!!!"

Move East young man. Or north.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 11:40 PM (txsZC)

283 Speaking of doppler radar, how does one dopple, anyway?

Posted by: OU_Gryphon at May 09, 2016 11:40 PM (wbWlF)

284 So, has anyone done research on the alt-Right's connection to anime?

Posted by: West Town at May 09, 2016 11:26 PM (dx6bM)

I've noticed a lot of "Alt-right" and "Stoop White genocide" types use anime avatars on Twitter.

Looks like that entire Japan-Germany thing during WWII wasn't just due to some crazy fluke.

Posted by: Chibi-Hitler is かわいい at May 09, 2016 11:40 PM (vBeA5)

285 Can they please give up on TMNT reboots.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 09, 2016 11:41 PM (hlMPp)

286 One amendment I'd like to propose in an Article V convention, or just through the normal Congressional process if we ever have sane leadership again:

Any State or Commonwealth that defaults on its debt, forcing the rest of the nation's citizens to bear the burden of its financial malfeasance, shall be reverted to Territory status, have a Governor assigned by Congress, and all officers of its former government during such times as these debts were accrued shall be investigated.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 09, 2016 11:41 PM (HalrA)

287 257 They are the same. Disagree? Please link a source that backs you up.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 11:31 PM (R+30W)

****

Sure.
http://www.conventionofstates.com/
constitutional_convention_vs_a_convention_of_states

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 11:34 PM (YLidQ)

++++

And that guy wants to use a 3rd term, Constitution of States. He is allowed his opinion, but I don't recognize his authority to tell me how to speak. Plus, a quick Google search doesn't show me anything that signifies any expertise he has on the subject.

I'll continue to use the language in the way that I see fit.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 11:41 PM (R+30W)

288 Totally OT, but I have to say it.
Eva Longoria may be kind of washed up as an actress but she's still one hell of a third-baseman.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 09, 2016 11:42 PM (T/5A0)

289 So the Constitutional Conventions is for after the burning times ...

Posted by: Jean at May 09, 2016 11:42 PM (cXiMR)

290 262 Arf. Arf arf arf arf arf!!!!
*hic*
Sadly that was her most coherent stump speech to date.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 09, 2016 11:35 PM (T/cxb)

She was calling Chelsea.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 09, 2016 11:42 PM (oKE6c)

291 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 09, 2016 11:31 PM (voOPb)

Hey, were you the one putting the Dyson sphere and aliens stuff in the sidebar? Cuz there's an update at DM about it; bad data:

http://tinyurl.com/ju4xzwm

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 09, 2016 11:43 PM (gyKtp)

292 "Speaking of doppler radar, how does one dopple, anyway?"

That's something you do in the privacy or your own home, sir. We don't need to hear about it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 11:43 PM (txsZC)

293 Me, I'm going to try to presreve as much as I can in the hopes that some part of it lasts, if not for the near future, then for what comes after that.

Posted by: The Constitutional Hat

Nothing is preserved by granting the Left 3 SCOTUS decisions.

Posted by: Chibi-Hitler is (Kawaii) at May 09, 2016 11:40 PM (vBeA5)

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 09, 2016 11:43 PM (OcD4G)

294 "Eva Longoria may be kind of washed up as an actress but she's still one hell of a third-baseman."

You may, may have your "Longorias" mixed up. I'm not a huge baseball fan.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 11:44 PM (txsZC)

295 268 Let's not talk of holding on to pieces, and preserving portions.

Let's speak of victory.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 09, 2016 11:35 PM (HalrA)

Let's speak of a suicide charge.

Posted by: The Constitutional Hat at May 09, 2016 11:36 PM (vBeA5)

http://tinyurl.com/jzmu2q8

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 09, 2016 11:44 PM (hlMPp)

296 One I won't be ordering is the "Oh Crab" roll, $15.

Soft shell crab with eel on top.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:38 PM (ntObR)

This sounds like an ironic hipster douche sushi joint. Are there not any traditional Japanese-style sushi providers in your area? Sheesh, we have them in darkest Alberta.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2016 11:45 PM (ZAWdJ)

297 " So the Constitutional Conventions is for after the burning times ..."

I think by that point there won't be Conventions. Likely even functioning states, so.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 11:45 PM (txsZC)

298 276 One I won't be ordering is the "Oh Crab" roll, $15.

Soft shell crab with eel on top.
Posted by: qdpsteve
------------
You should get two orders of that. The eel is most likely smoked.

Posted by: Chi at May 09, 2016 11:45 PM (OmwNr)

299 Yeah, it might happen 5 to 10 years down the road from the time the States approve it, as the lawyers and politicos (BIRM) wrangle over every word and file innumerable lawsuits, all of which must go before the SC where Roberts declares the whole thing a tax.

And that is my *optimistic* view.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 09, 2016 11:37 PM (gyKtp)

****

Awesome. I applaud your attempt to make words mean things they plainly do not. Good luck with that.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 11:46 PM (YLidQ)

300 AOP, it's I Luv Sushi in Lakewood. Here's the menu:

http://www.iluvsushilakewood.com/menu.html

They have teriyaki too, so I'd assume they're not too hipster douche.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:46 PM (ntObR)

301 Chi, seriously it's good stuff?

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:47 PM (ntObR)

302 I'd be most willing to try an Article V convention as a last resort.

So presuming said convention comes to pass,what issues do you deem in need of resolving?

Posted by: irongrampa at May 09, 2016 11:47 PM (P/8aq)

303 "Soft shell crab with eel on top.

Posted by: qdpsteve"

OMG get me 5 of those stuffed through the USB port, STAT!

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 09, 2016 11:47 PM (9ltS8)

304 272 Evening horde.

Going to the gym tonight I thought we had an active shooter situation with the amount of cop cars hauling ass from multiple directions.

Turns out it was a shooting but just a domestic violence type. No deaths.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 09, 2016 11:37 PM (hlMPp)

Plain or battered, decisions, decisions

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 09, 2016 11:47 PM (voOPb)

305 264 I think it is unlikely that the Left has enough control over 38 state governments so that they would be able to make any changes desirable to the Left to the US Constitution.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 11:29 PM (R+30W)

Pro-tip: The state legislatures' votes can be circumvented by calling for ratifying conventions. That's how they did it with the 21st Amendment.

Posted by: The Constitutional Hat at May 09, 2016 11:35 PM (vBeA5)

++++

Yes, but the delegates are determined by the states. Not by Congress.

The 21st amendment is more of an example of how the process works better when the people are involved.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 11:47 PM (R+30W)

306 Asheville, you're an eel fan too?

What's it taste like? Tuna?

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:48 PM (ntObR)

307
"Stoop White genocide"

Yeah, leave us hunchbacks alone!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 09, 2016 11:49 PM (k4M/B)

308 "Eva Longoria may be kind of washed up as an actress but she's still one hell of a third-baseman."

And her base-stealing percentage is 100%. If the throw down beats her, she just flashes her tits and distracts the shortstop from catching the ball. Not fair, really.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 09, 2016 11:49 PM (oKE6c)

309 And that guy wants to use a 3rd term, Constitution of States. He is allowed his opinion, but I don't recognize his authority to tell me how to speak. Plus, a quick Google search doesn't show me anything that signifies any expertise he has on the subject.

I'll continue to use the language in the way that I see fit.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 11:41 PM (R+30W)

******
****

Awesome. I applaud your attempt to make words mean things they plainly do not. Good luck with that.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 11:46 PM (YLidQ)

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 11:49 PM (YLidQ)

310 AOP, it's I Luv Sushi in Lakewood. Here's the menu:

http://www.iluvsushilakewood.com/menu.html

They have teriyaki too, so I'd assume they're not too hipster douche.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:46 PM (ntObR)

The menu simply screams ironic hipster douche. Biggest tipoff? Prices quoted without dollar signs, or decimals.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2016 11:50 PM (ZAWdJ)

311 Plain or battered, decisions, decisions

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 09, 2016 11:47 PM (voOPb)

Lost me on that one MH. O.o

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 09, 2016 11:50 PM (hlMPp)

312 Trump is a great leader and he will make this nation great again.

Posted by: Lov e

He's no more a leader than fart on fire.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 09, 2016 11:51 PM (OcD4G)

313 AOP, when was the last time you were in LA County? Most places are like that these days online. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:51 PM (ntObR)

314 Going to the gym tonight I thought we had an active shooter situation with the amount of cop cars hauling ass from multiple directions.

Turns out it was a shooting but just a domestic violence type. No deaths.

***

OH! That reminds me. I went off about it on Twitter this afternoon.

This morning I received a tweet from a local news station with a link to a livestream of a SWAT situation.

A man at a mobile home park had been shot and there were dozens of police units, plus SWAT, and two armored vehicles on site. The local news-fools left the camera and the mic up and running so you could hear all of their chatter. About 1100 one of the reporterettes interviewed a resident who, when asked what he knew, said that he overheard the SWAT guys saying that they would make a decision at 1300 hrs about what to do.

Well, I had already been losing my shit on the station via twitter because of all the chatter about the SWAT presence and their weapons, etc... but I really freaking lost it then. I started tweeting to the sheriff's department who tweeted back to me that the man who was interviewed was wrong. Next thing I know I see the Director of Public Relations walking towards the camera and she was not in a good mood.

She backed their asses out of there and across a major thoroughfare and made it clear she didn't care if they were inconvenienced by it. I heard the reporterette say "She has an attitude". I felt so proud.

Now, keep in mind, that the sheriff's office wasn't even sure if the shooter was even in the home, or the park, but had a huge presence there.

After about five hours of residents standing out in the open, in the heat, without access to their homes, the city sent buses to the site to serve as 'cool down' spots.

About 1800 hrs the shooter was captured. He was miles away at the time and hadn't been in the park throughout this entire ordeal.

Did I mention the man who was shot received only superficial wounds?

I wonder how much money was wasted on that clusterfuck today?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2016 11:51 PM (SEXy3)

315 AOP, when was the last time you were in LA County? Most places are like that these days online. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:51 PM (ntObR)

So most places in LA County are ironic hipster douche? Color me surprised.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2016 11:52 PM (ZAWdJ)

316 308---"Not fair, really."
--------------
Maybe not, but it's not against the rules as long as she stays in the base path.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 09, 2016 11:52 PM (T/5A0)

317
297
" So the Constitutional Conventions is for after the burning times ..."

I think by that point there won't be Conventions. Likely even functioning states, so.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May

I disagree. The Left doesn't last more than a month. Once rural America blocks the highways, rails, drops the high voltage towers, and turns off the water - to the left's urban enclaves - its over fast.

Posted by: Jean at May 09, 2016 11:52 PM (cXiMR)

318 "So presuming said convention comes to pass,what issues do you deem in need of resolving?

Posted by: irongrampa"

Some suggestions:

1: Fixing property rights.
2: Eliminating "Asset Forfeiture" without a conviction.
3: Ending near total immunity for prosecutors.
4: Revision of what congress has the ability to regulate under the "Interstate Commerce Clause".

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 09, 2016 11:53 PM (9ltS8)

319 AOP, as long as the food is tasty and the prices aren't ridonkulous :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:53 PM (ntObR)

320 Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA

I better shut up or I will be in trouble

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 09, 2016 11:53 PM (voOPb)

321

Back in the day, when I did a different sort of dumbshit stuff, we dropped Imodium every 8-12 hours for several days so we didn't have to shit while on patrol, in hides, etc. Combined with low residual rations, it worked.

The first couple of days back in however were ugly.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at May 09, 2016 11:53 PM (KId5h)

322 Seriously, steve. Smoked eel is excellent.
If it's like a similar roll around the corner, it'll have avocado & a drizzle of what Chef calls Dragon Sauce. A little hot, a little sweet...

Posted by: Chi at May 09, 2016 11:53 PM (OmwNr)

323 "Chi, seriously it's good stuff?"

I can't speak for Chi, but, I was not at all any kind of sushi man. Until an ol' gal I used to run around with talked me into it with some spicy tuna roll at a local sushi bar.

Very, very good. Not fishy at all. Very savory. I had no idea.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 11:53 PM (txsZC)

324 Can 3/4 of the States not call an Article V on their own, bypassing Congress as was the Founder's intent in dire times?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 11:15 PM (YLidQ)

Can Congress claim this process is invalidated by the 17th amendment?

Posted by: Kindltot at May 09, 2016 11:53 PM (ry34m)

325 Niedermeyer, LOL. You like eel?

***

I do eat it, but it isn't one of my favorites, and I almost always ask them to skip the sauce because it's usually sweet.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2016 11:54 PM (SEXy3)

326 +DaTf Ahh raykon. Like a breath of fresh air... or like a methane leak at the sewage treatment plant. Either one is good

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 09, 2016 11:54 PM (6FqZa)

327 318 308---"Not fair, really."
--------------
Maybe not, but it's not against the rules as long as she stays in the base path.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 09, 2016 11:52 PM (T/5A0)

Good point. And she has to slide right at the bag. Otherwise the middle infielder will be disappointed.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 09, 2016 11:54 PM (oKE6c)

328 I'd be most willing to try an Article V convention as a last resort.

So presuming said convention comes to pass,what issues do you deem in need of resolving?
Posted by: irongrampa at May 09, 2016 11:47 PM (P/8aq)

****

10th Amendment, Congressional Term Limits. Balanced Budget.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 11:54 PM (YLidQ)

329 288 Totally OT, but I have to say it.
Eva Longoria may be kind of washed up as an actress but she's still one hell of a third-baseman.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 09, 2016 11:42 PM (T/5A0)

Eva and Evan should have been twins with names like those.

Posted by: rickl at May 09, 2016 11:54 PM (sdi6R)

330 Chi, yum. :-)
I think this place does custom orders, but not sure.

Ricardo, yup. I've read a lot of people make the mistake of trying sushi for the first time, from the supermarket. Ick.

I had a friend who once told me, if you're going to try sushi, do it right the first time... go someplace popular for it. Then decide.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:55 PM (ntObR)

331 So most places in LA County are ironic hipster douche? Color me surprised.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2016 11:52 PM (ZAWdJ)

--------

Not really. The Westside is, but the rest is pretty conservative.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 09, 2016 11:55 PM (sl+zA)

332 It's .gov money NDH.

Why do you care what they spend it on.

*i don't need a tag do I?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 09, 2016 11:55 PM (hlMPp)

333 AOP, as long as the food is tasty and the prices aren't ridonkulous :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:53 PM (ntObR)

Prices quoted without decimals or currency symbols are, by definition, ridiculous. It's purposeless cutesy-ness.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2016 11:56 PM (ZAWdJ)

334 Can Congress claim this process is invalidated by the 17th amendment?

Posted by: Kindltot

Which line USC produces this?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 09, 2016 11:56 PM (OcD4G)

335 "Asheville, you're an eel fan too?

What's it taste like? Tuna?

Posted by: qdpsteve"

Not really. It's totally different. Gotta have the sauce though. It's not the same without it.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 09, 2016 11:56 PM (9ltS8)

336 Lakewood is NOT westside. In fact we're OC-adjacent.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:56 PM (ntObR)

337 Can Congress claim this process is invalidated by the 17th amendment?
Posted by: Kindltot at May 09, 2016 11:53 PM (ry34m)

****

With lawfare, all things are possible.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 11:56 PM (YLidQ)

338 What good is fish that doesn't taste fishy? Do you want a steak that doesn't taste beefy? A pork chop that doesn't taste porky?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 09, 2016 11:56 PM (k4M/B)

339 335 Trump/Palin.
Make Amerika stupid again
Posted by: Lov e at May 09, 2016 11:55 PM (+DaTf)

You're about eight years too late for that.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 09, 2016 11:56 PM (oKE6c)

340 Asheville, thanks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:57 PM (ntObR)

341 312 Plain or battered, decisions, decisions

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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Heh.

Posted by: Chi at May 09, 2016 11:57 PM (OmwNr)

342 >>>Very, very good. Not fishy at all. Very savory. I had no idea.
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And I will keep quiet on this one too

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 09, 2016 11:57 PM (voOPb)

343
You're about eight years too late for that.
Posted by: Jay Guevara

He must be an SNL fan.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 09, 2016 11:58 PM (k4M/B)

344 Bertram, LOL. Yeah, fish isn't supposed to taste "fishy." I've read jokes about that...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:58 PM (ntObR)

345 The states can call a constitutional convention (not an Art 5 convention) any time they want, and write a new Constitution, same as this Constitution was written.

The constitutional convention for this constitution was first called by the meeting of five states separately, without the blessing or instruction of Congress. (Look up Annapolis Convention) They then asked Congress for its endorsement after they had already gotten the ball rolling.

But THAT kind of constitutional convention IS a total rewrite and WILL lead to a runaway convention.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 09, 2016 11:58 PM (dpnZC)

346 10th Amendment, Congressional Term Limits. Balanced Budget.

May as well ask for zero baseline budgeting while you're at it. This horseshit of calling a reduction of an increase a "cut" has got to end.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 09, 2016 11:58 PM (T/cxb)

347 " The Left doesn't last more than a month. Once rural America blocks the highways, rails, drops the high voltage towers, and turns off the water - to the left's urban enclaves - its over fast."

No, the Left likely won't. But the overall situation we are in by that point will be dire. I don't know how much rural America will spend doing those things. I'm rural America and I don't think a lot about that.

Most water is controlled by municipalities. We have a pump system so I can get water out of stock tanks but I need chlorine to make it drinkable. I'll want the powerlines as long as I can because, well, they run the pump system. No off-grid system yet. All require batteries which need routine replacement.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 11:59 PM (txsZC)

348 310 And that guy wants to use a 3rd term, Constitution of States. He is allowed his opinion, but I don't recognize his authority to tell me how to speak. Plus, a quick Google search doesn't show me anything that signifies any expertise he has on the subject.

I'll continue to use the language in the way that I see fit.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 11:41 PM (R+30W)

******
****

Awesome. I applaud your attempt to make words mean things they plainly do not. Good luck with that.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 11:46 PM (YLidQ)

++++

What is CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION?

A duly constituted assembly of delegates or representatives of the people of a state or nation for the purpose of framing, revising, or amending its constitution.

Says who?
The Law Dictionary Featuring Black's Law Dictionary Free Online Legal Dictionary 2nd Ed.
http://thelawdictionary.org/constitutional-convention/

That is how you provide a source. Not a link to some random guy on the internet, but to something that is authoritative.

Please stop telling people how to talk about things that you are not informed about.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 11:59 PM (R+30W)

349 5. Property Qualifications for Voting
6. No invisible taxes (end withholding)
7. No progressive taxation, flat taxes for all
8. Define Man, Woman, Marriage, etc. in plain language
etc.

Posted by: Jean at May 09, 2016 11:59 PM (cXiMR)

350 I better shut up or I will be in trouble

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 09, 2016 11:53 PM (voOPb)

Now I'm intrigued and will be racking my brain trying to figure the meaning.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 09, 2016 11:59 PM (hlMPp)

351
Can someone bounce the idiot who posted at #335?

Don't need bacterial slime like that fouling the place.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 10, 2016 12:00 AM (P/8aq)

352 1: Fixing property rights.
2: Eliminating "Asset Forfeiture" without a conviction.
3: Ending near total immunity for prosecutors.
4: Revision of what congress has the ability to regulate under the "Interstate Commerce Clause".

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 09, 2016 11:53 PM (9ltS

5. Amendment clarifying that the preamble is an element of style, not an instrument of law, thus eliminating the invented and abused "General Welfare" clause.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 10, 2016 12:00 AM (HalrA)

353 >>>Very, very good. Not fishy at all. Very savory. I had no idea.
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And I will keep quiet on this one too

Get signed up now to do the Aquaman Movie Review and kill 2 birds with 1 stone ...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at May 10, 2016 12:00 AM (AoK0a)

354 love the walker 16, and the blood letting spurs the guy is wearing.

Posted by: north and judd bit and spur co. at May 10, 2016 12:01 AM (ceWrl)

355 Please stop telling people how to talk about things that you are not informed about.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 11:59 PM (R+30W)

****

Please stop moving goal posts and then claiming the high ground.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 10, 2016 12:01 AM (YLidQ)

356 When I visited the in-laws in Japan, we'd always have sushi delivered. A YUGE platter of it.

Plus a full Japanese breakfast is something to behold.

Unfortunately, airline ticket prices have been holding us back from going for the last few years...

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 10, 2016 12:01 AM (9ltS8)

357 354 5. Property Qualifications for Voting
6. No invisible taxes (end withholding)
7. No progressive taxation, flat taxes for all
8. Define Man, Woman, Marriage, etc. in plain language
etc.
Posted by: Jean at May 09, 2016 11:59 PM (cXiMR)

This.

9. Redefine "treason" as betraying the country by one who owes allegiance to it, and eliminate the other bullshit.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 10, 2016 12:02 AM (oKE6c)

358 At this stage I kind of feel like We The People are a family that's stuck with an old car with a busted radiator, in the middle of Death Valley. At this stage, the car (constitution) will only go 5 miles at a time before it needs days and days more to cool off and recover... yet we're hundreds if not thousands of miles away from home.

So here comes the kindly homeless-looking stranger who says he can fix it (the convention). Do we trust him to get under the hood and fiddle with the engine? Hmmm...
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:05 PM (ntObR)

Except there are plenty of We the People who think they're in no danger whatsoever - they're looking at the pretty desert sunset. They're just fine, they have a water bottle and snacks with them and think everything will be OK because the highway patrol is sure to rescue them.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 10, 2016 12:02 AM (P8951)

359 May as well ask for zero baseline budgeting while
you're at it. This horseshit of calling a reduction of an increase a
"cut" has got to end.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 09, 2016 11:58 PM (T/cxb)

Amen to that. In addition to zero-baseline budgeting, I'd rule that the government may not spend more than 99% of what it brings in, and must put the other 1% in the national treasury, not to be used except in the event of war or natural disaster.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 10, 2016 12:03 AM (HalrA)

360 Which line USC produces this?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 09, 2016 11:56 PM (OcD4G)

A lawyer loves nothing better than a precedent, especially a contingent precedent to hang an exception on. Especially if everyone involved wants it to hang high.

I don't know USC (CFR is something else) but my question is:

Can the presumption that the 17th amendment has removed the election of Senators from state government, and has placed it with direct election, lead us to the conclusion that the ability to direct an article V convention has likewise been removed from the states and given also to direct election by the electorate - say as embodied by the same Senators who were elected directly?

Posted by: Kindltot at May 10, 2016 12:03 AM (ry34m)

361 356 W destroyed the economy with his delusional thinking.
Posted by: Lov e at May 09, 2016 11:59 PM (+DaTf)

10. Execute anyone named Lov e.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 10, 2016 12:03 AM (oKE6c)

362 Get signed up now to do the Aquaman Movie Review and kill 2 birds with 1 stone ...
Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic
-----------------
Ha!
Even when you're not typing verse that rhymes, yours posts are poetry.

Posted by: Chi at May 10, 2016 12:03 AM (OmwNr)

363 Posted by: irongrampa at May 10, 2016 12:00 AM (P/8aq)

Scrolled past it until you pointed it out. Just sayin'.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 10, 2016 12:03 AM (hlMPp)

364 Donna, good point.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 12:03 AM (ntObR)

365 Asheville, that sounds yummy and worth going back to :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 12:03 AM (ntObR)

366 "I better shut up or I will be in trouble

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 09, 2016 11:53 PM (voOPb)

Now I'm intrigued and will be racking my brain trying to figure the meaning."

There may, or may not, have been livestock.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 10, 2016 12:04 AM (txsZC)

367 When I started packing the car to go home, we had deluge going on. By the time we got home, moon was out, stars sparkling, lightning fading to the east. No 4" hail or tornadoes for us tonight, I guess. I'll take it.

Home, where we're dangerously low on alcohol.

I just knew I should've grabbed that bottle of brandy at Mom's on Sunday.

-!-

I found it easiest to get caught up on comments by skipping all the Constitutional conversation. Y'all work it out for us, m'kay?

-!-

James T Kirk #280: Australian man who smokes up to a gram of cannabis per day...

A gram? I admit my English-metric conversion skills are poor tonight, but that's hardly very much, is it? Like, half a joint or less?

Posted by: mindful webworker said smokily at May 10, 2016 12:04 AM (gJBE5)

368 Posted by: Jean at May 09, 2016 11:59 PM (cXiMR)

9. Life begins at conception

Address the anchor baby issue
Address the 2nd amendment language
Balance budget
Term limits
Line item veto

How's that irongrandpa?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 10, 2016 12:04 AM (voOPb)

369 361 Please stop telling people how to talk about things that you are not informed about.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2016 11:59 PM (R+30W)

****

Please stop moving goal posts and then claiming the high ground.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 10, 2016 12:01 AM (YLidQ)

++++

Which goal posts did I move?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 12:04 AM (R+30W)

370 Most water is controlled by municipalities.

Not in cities. The Army Corps of Engineers left many a control valve in rural America that could be turned off be a determined few. Very few cites are like Flint, with local water sources.

Posted by: Jean at May 10, 2016 12:04 AM (cXiMR)

371 28 grams is an ounce I think

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 10, 2016 12:05 AM (voOPb)

372 AR, I ordered a pizza Saturday. I tipped $20.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 10, 2016 12:05 AM (txsZC)

373 Apologies IG.

I see more troll dropping now.

Still, can we get a better quality troll. That shit sucks.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 10, 2016 12:05 AM (hlMPp)

374 'What good is fish that doesn't taste fishy? '

Yea who wants to eat an anteater that doesn't taste anteatery? What is wrong with people?

Posted by: Cy.Borg.Robot.Drifter at May 10, 2016 12:05 AM (BO/km)

375 Looks like that entire Japan-Germany thing during WWII wasn't just due to some crazy fluke.
Posted by: Chibi-Hitler at May 09, 2016 11:40 PM (vBeA5)

At first, I thought there was some sort of admiration for Japan, a homogeneous country, but there's some weird stuff with really white features in anime, it seems.

Chibi Hitler, heh. I had to look up "Chibi"

Posted by: West Town at May 10, 2016 12:06 AM (dx6bM)

376
Execute anyone named Lov e.
Posted by: Jay Guevara

Oh No !!

Posted by: Thurston Howell III at May 10, 2016 12:06 AM (k4M/B)

377 Which goal posts did I move?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 12:04 AM (R+30W)

***

Those which deliniate an Article V Convention from a Constitutional Convention.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 10, 2016 12:06 AM (YLidQ)

378 Lov e

Cut the shit or you're out of here.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 10, 2016 12:06 AM (SEXy3)

379 Time for bed. And now you've made me hungry....

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 10, 2016 12:06 AM (9ltS8)

380

BERNIE LIKES TO SMEAR WASABI ON HIS SCROTE AND FEEL THE BERN.

HAIRY TOLD ME WHILE WE WERE PICKING UP THE HELLO KITTY SUSHI PLATTER FOR THE SEARCHLIGHT MONTESSORI PARTY.

Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE MASSIVE HORSERADISH at May 10, 2016 12:07 AM (KId5h)

381 333 Chi, yum. :-)
I think this place does custom orders, but not sure.

Ricardo, yup. I've read a lot of people make the mistake of trying sushi for the first time, from the supermarket. Ick.

I had a friend who once told me, if you're going to try sushi, do it right the first time... go someplace popular for it. Then decide.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 11:55 PM (ntObR)

NEVER eat (a) cheap sushi, or (b) sushi from places that aren't busy.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 12:07 AM (EzgxV)

382 cthulhu, yup. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 12:08 AM (ntObR)

383 NEVER eat (a) cheap sushi, or (b) sushi from places that aren't busy.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 12:07 AM (EzgxV)

Truck stop sushi: made from lot lizards.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 10, 2016 12:08 AM (ZAWdJ)

384 *Girds loins*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 10, 2016 12:08 AM (txsZC)

385 "AR, I ordered a pizza Saturday. I tipped $20.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill"

Tonight I had one where the bill was $18.30

She (teenage girl) gave me a 20 and wanted her change back......

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 10, 2016 12:08 AM (9ltS8)

386 384 Lov e

Cut the shit or you're out of here.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 10, 2016 12:06 AM (SEXy3)

Don't think I've seen NDH threaten anyone. What a loser Lov e

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 10, 2016 12:09 AM (voOPb)

387 NEVER eat (a) cheap sushi, or (b) sushi from places that aren't busy.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 12:07 AM (EzgxV)
Also, never eat sushi at a bait shop. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 10, 2016 12:09 AM (oKE6c)

388

GAS STATION SUSHI IS FINE, BUT NEVER BUY IT AT A HEAD SHOP OR FUNERAL PARLOR. JUST SAYIN...

Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE MASSIVE HORSERADISH at May 10, 2016 12:09 AM (KId5h)

389 383 Which goal posts did I move?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 12:04 AM (R+30W)

***

Those which deliniate an Article V Convention from a Constitutional Convention.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 10, 2016 12:06 AM (YLidQ)

++++

You object to my using "Constitutional Convention". I showed that my usage is correct. It might not be your preferred terminology, but it is still correct.

Try your grammar nazi shit on someone else.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 12:09 AM (R+30W)

390 The most realistic way to assure "no Trump" and "no Hillary" is a 3rd Party candidacy.

Run a 3rd Party candidate who would draw enough votes from the electoral college to assure no majority. Then the choice for president goes to the House.

The House is always up for election and they will have to choose someone who will not cost them their own phoney baloney job. Their choice won't be great but it will be better than Don or Hill.

Billy Bob and Club for Growth should run Walker as their candidate.

Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at May 10, 2016 12:09 AM (Srnuc)

391 @ 375

Excellent ideas, MH--sign me up and let's get started.

At the least,it'll keep DC busy and out of trouble for a good while.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 10, 2016 12:10 AM (P/8aq)

392 The shit is Palin and Trump are stupid?

***

You are baiting and the ONT is not the place for it. Frankly, this blog isn't the place for it.

You are, however, more than welcome to join in the various discussions taking place.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 10, 2016 12:10 AM (SEXy3)

393 @1

"Hobosexualiy" and "Hobo Pederasty"? And to think that I'd heard it all!

At the link we read again from another apologist for homosexual "intergenerational" sexual behaviours and how this "represents a prehistory to gay and lesbian identity" (!)

I beginning to think these types will never give up until they get their catamites back!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 10, 2016 12:10 AM (kP16F)

394 AOP and Jay, if the "sushi" leaps itself into your mouth for you, that's a bad sign :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 12:10 AM (ntObR)

395 Pardon, the bill was $18.70 and she wanted the $1.30 back.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 10, 2016 12:10 AM (9ltS8)

396 Rare beef
Well done fish thank you very much

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 10, 2016 12:12 AM (voOPb)

397 401 AOP and Jay, if the "sushi" leaps itself into your mouth for you, that's a bad sign :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 12:10 AM (ntObR)

Worse sign: if it's long past jumping into anything.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 10, 2016 12:12 AM (oKE6c)

398 384 Lov e

Cut the shit or you're out of here.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 10, 2016 12:06 AM (SEXy3)

Pull the trigger.

And I have to compliment you on your hash tonight.....

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 12:12 AM (EzgxV)

399 Asheville, that's when you open the box to show them they got the right pizza order, then "accidentally" drop it face down on the front stoop...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 12:12 AM (ntObR)

400 NEVER eat (a) cheap sushi, or (b) sushi from places that aren't busy.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 12:07 AM (EzgxV)

****

It was half price roll night. Daughter and I had 4 rolls, along with ginger salads and 8 nigri. Sushi for two for $50 including a big tip.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 10, 2016 12:12 AM (YLidQ)

401 AOP and Jay, if the "sushi" leaps itself into your mouth for you, that's a bad sign :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 12:10 AM (ntObR)

No, that just means it's very fresh. The sushi you want to avoid is the stuff with the "All The Way With LBJ" tattoos on it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 10, 2016 12:13 AM (ZAWdJ)

402 So the nation should ignore a fascist dictatorship manifesting itself?

Posted by: Lov e at May 10, 2016 12:12 AM (+DaTf)
Leave Obama out of this.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 10, 2016 12:13 AM (oKE6c)

403 "She (teenage girl) gave me a 20 and wanted her change back......"

People suck.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 10, 2016 12:13 AM (txsZC)

404 re: Article V convention

What amendments would you propose that are not already covered in existing documents?

Why and what do you think the support would be ?

Posted by: dDan at May 10, 2016 12:13 AM (hwYmz)

405 AOP, LOL.

It's doing its Nixon impression: "I am not a crustacean!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 12:14 AM (ntObR)

406 So the nation should ignore a fascist dictatorship manifesting itself?

***

this isn't "the nation". It's a privately run blog.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 10, 2016 12:14 AM (SEXy3)

407 Dang. Beat to the punch on the Gilligan's Island reference. *sigh*

Guess I'll go with this one, then, even though it's more obtuse:

ManWithNoParty: Please stop moving goal posts and then claiming the high ground.

I always found the statue of that moment inspiring, but I read that they now think they've mis-identified one of the soldiers...

Posted by: mindful webworker said obtusely at May 10, 2016 12:14 AM (gJBE5)

408 You are, however, more than welcome to join in the various discussions taking place.

I don't think he's here for the conversation, NDH. Just sayin'

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 10, 2016 12:14 AM (T/cxb)

409 No, that just means it's very fresh. The sushi you want to avoid is the stuff with the "All The Way With LBJ" tattoos on it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 10, 2016 12:13 AM (ZAWdJ)
"Whip inflation now" - bad sign.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 10, 2016 12:15 AM (oKE6c)

410 MWNP, mmmm

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 12:15 AM (ntObR)

411 28 grams is an ounce I think

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 10, 2016 12:05 AM (voOPb)

Yes, which made me wonder why a gram a day made someone a heavy user (going now only on past experience).

Posted by: Blano at May 10, 2016 12:15 AM (3eoPa)

412 You object to my using "Constitutional Convention". I showed that my usage is correct. It might not be your preferred terminology, but it is still correct.

Try your grammar nazi shit on someone else.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 12:09 AM (R+30W)

****

I point out the difference because there is one. It is not my fault that you choose not to see this. That is all on you.

Have a day.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 10, 2016 12:16 AM (YLidQ)

413 What exactly is hybrid sushi?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 10, 2016 12:16 AM (k4M/B)

414 More proof of the Global Warming that has bee created by Bush and all of Lying sacks of Dog DooDoo. What call on Presdent Oblamo to make Bush pay for his crimes against persons of all colors except persons of no color ehich have taken advantage of persons of darker colors from Africa

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at May 10, 2016 12:17 AM (Fbj4h)

415 Yes, which made me wonder why a gram a day made someone a heavy user (going now only on past experience).

Posted by: Blano at May 10, 2016 12:15 AM (3eoPa)

I would attribute it to stupid journalists converting metric to metric.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 10, 2016 12:17 AM (ZAWdJ)

416 Can't we all just get along?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 10, 2016 12:17 AM (txsZC)

417 "Whip inflation now" - bad sign.

I don't see what good BDSM would do against the falling value of the US Dollar. Times must have been more desperate than I remembered.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 10, 2016 12:17 AM (T/cxb)

418 Posted by: Blano at May 10, 2016 12:15 AM (3eoPa

I'm just going on a documentary or something

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 10, 2016 12:17 AM (voOPb)

419 Gotta love that Mary's forgotten how to spell her own name. She must be hitting the peyote extra hard lately.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 12:18 AM (ntObR)

420 Looks like the big crane is preparing to attach to the top os the stage.

Posted by: rickl at May 10, 2016 12:18 AM (sdi6R)

421 Not in cities. The Army Corps of Engineers left many a control valve in rural America that could be turned off be a determined few. Very few cites are like Flint, with local water sources.

Posted by: Jean at May 10, 2016 12:04 AM (cXiMR)

And when those determined few are surrounded by their hostile neighbors.....

Posted by: Blano at May 10, 2016 12:18 AM (3eoPa)

422 What exactly is hybrid sushi?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 10, 2016 12:16 AM (k4M/B)

"Don't eat that, Billy. It's asshole." (punchline from an old cartoon)

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 10, 2016 12:19 AM (ZAWdJ)

423 Has the Michelle Fields meme faded? Don't read all the threads, but haven't seen it for a few days.

I want to see some kind of Michelle Fields, Mary Clogginstien, Triggly Puff meme-crossing. I'd do it myself, but, it's tired and I'm late. And the dog smells bad. That's my excuses and I'm sticking to 'em.

Posted by: mindful webworker said crossly at May 10, 2016 12:20 AM (gJBE5)

424 'call on Presdent Oblamo to make Bush pay for his crimes against persons of all colors except persons of no color'

What about me you ignorant slut?

Posted by: The Invisible Man at May 10, 2016 12:20 AM (BO/km)

425 >>Don't eat that, Billy. It's asshole." (punchline from an old cartoon)
-----

It's what we call your father at time

Love that joke when it came across the fax machine 25 years ago

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 10, 2016 12:20 AM (voOPb)

426 "I would attribute it to stupid journalists converting metric to metric."

Wait a minute.

*pound equals .45 kilos. An ounce is .63 a pound. Carrries the two. There may a zero in there. *

What was the question?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 10, 2016 12:20 AM (txsZC)

427 "Don't eat that, Billy. It's asshole." (punchline from an old cartoon)

Reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Homer comes in and orders a hot dog at the Kwik-E-Mart, right after Apu's finally cleaned out the grill.

"Now all I can taste is the hog anus!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 12:21 AM (ntObR)

428 Can't we all just get along?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 10, 2016 12:17 AM (txsZC)

*****

Because you weren't here, obviously.

You need to spend more time here to keep us civil.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 10, 2016 12:21 AM (YLidQ)

429 Night horde. Have a great Tuesday. See you in the EMT/Dump/VNN.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 10, 2016 12:21 AM (hlMPp)

430 Hybrid sushi? Sushi made from ethanol. You can really taste the extra miles!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 12:21 AM (ntObR)

431 Goodnight all, except for trigglypuff who is evidently trolling us tonight. (Really, I believe all trolls resemble the lovely lefty trigglypuff.) Go eat 3 or 4 boxes of donuts for social justice and leave us alone.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 10, 2016 12:22 AM (P8951)

432

I for one would welcome some more pics of Gadget the cosplay girl...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at May 10, 2016 12:22 AM (KId5h)

433 419 You object to my using "Constitutional Convention". I showed that my usage is correct. It might not be your preferred terminology, but it is still correct.

Try your grammar nazi shit on someone else.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 12:09 AM (R+30W)

****

I point out the difference because there is one. It is not my fault that you choose not to see this. That is all on you.

Have a day.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 10, 2016 12:16 AM (YLidQ)

++++

An Article 5 convention is a constitutional convention. A constitutional convention is not necessarily an article 5 convention. I chose to use the term constitutional convention. You objected and wanted me to stop using the term in that context. My usage is correct, and I will continue to use it regardless of your preferences. You get to decide which term to use when you talk, but you don't get to make that choice for me.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 12:23 AM (R+30W)

434 Donna, if TP eats another dozen donuts her heart is going to go on strike for a living wage (diet).

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 12:23 AM (ntObR)

435 Nite Donna & RWC

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 10, 2016 12:23 AM (voOPb)

436
And the dog smells bad.

That's when I go to a different restaurant.

Posted by: Barack Obama at May 10, 2016 12:23 AM (k4M/B)

437 419 Gotta love that Mary's forgotten how to spell her own name. She must be hitting the peyote extra hard lately.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 12:18 AM (ntObR)
---------------
She's got to be exhausted. She's been traveling back and forth, state to state, voting for Bernie over and over and over again.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 10, 2016 12:24 AM (T/5A0)

438 hhhhmmmmmm, dooooooooooughnuts

Posted by: Homer Simpson ... at May 10, 2016 12:24 AM (AoK0a)

439 Margarita, true. Gotta be tough shlepping all over the country in that weed-powered 1966 VW Microbus...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 12:25 AM (ntObR)

440 Ricardo Kill #426: ...pound equals .45 kilos. An ounce is .63 a pound. Carrries the two. There may a zero in there....

And that's when the satellite flew right past Mars and off into space.

Posted by: mindful webworker said astrally at May 10, 2016 12:25 AM (gJBE5)

441 Nite morons
Be well

NDH a very nice ONT, thank you

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 10, 2016 12:26 AM (voOPb)

442 439
Margarita, true. Gotta be tough shlepping all over the country in that weed-powered 1966 VW Microbus...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 12:25 AM (ntObR)

Naw man, it's powered by biofuels! But, like, the downside of all that post-consumer fry grease is that you always smell french fries when you're driving, and it gives you powerful-ass munchies, dude.

Posted by: Every Hippie, Ever at May 10, 2016 12:27 AM (HalrA)

443 Nite morons
Be well

NDH a very nice ONT, thank you

***

Goodnight MH. Thanks for the compliment.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 10, 2016 12:27 AM (SEXy3)

444 Love that joke when it came across the fax machine 25 years ago

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 10, 2016 12:20 AM (voOPb)

Fax machine jokes. Another cultural icon made obsolete by technology. e-mail jokes just aren't quite the same.

Although I did get a funny in my e-mail this morning, on why rotary-wing aircraft are better.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 10, 2016 12:28 AM (ZAWdJ)

445 G'night & thanks for he ONT, NDH ...

Posted by: Adriane the Civility Critic ... at May 10, 2016 12:29 AM (AoK0a)

446 And that's when the satellite flew right past Mars and off into space. Posted by: mindful webworker said astrally at May 10, 2016 12:25 AM (gJBE5)

I thought that mission ended in deconstructive lithobraking, not unscheduled skywatching.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 10, 2016 12:29 AM (HalrA)

447
Does French Fry grease work in a VW now that they changed the recipe?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 10, 2016 12:29 AM (k4M/B)

448 How did the hippie get a hash like that?
Did he bribe Pixy with some dank?

Posted by: Chi at May 10, 2016 12:29 AM (OmwNr)

449 Well I must call it a night. Gotta get up early & look for new digs.

Didn't get a chance to reply to Jim in Galveston last night, but have been looking on Craigslist for places, and there isn't a whole lot in my area that seem worthwhile.

Plus in keeping with rising rents, room rental rates are going up too. I've even seen a few ads now for people renting out their living room, or even PART of their living room. Previously had only seen that in places like San Franpsycho and NYC.

Prayers for quick resolution would be appreciated, as I have to be out of here by the 18th, and have nowhere to go at the moment.

'Night all.

Posted by: Blano at May 10, 2016 12:29 AM (3eoPa)

450 412 re: Article V convention

What amendments would you propose that are not already covered in existing documents?

Why and what do you think the support would be ?

Posted by: dDan at May 10, 2016 12:13 AM (hwYmz)

1. Reverse Wickard v. Filburn.
2. Reverse Kelo
3. Reverse NFIB v. Sibelius (Obamacare I)
4. Reverse King v. Burwell (Obamacare II)
5. Forbid the Federal government from ANY role w/r/t healthcare. That includes the CDC, FDA, DEA, HHS, and Medicare. It ain't in Article 1, Section 8 -- and giving the Feds the right to determine who lives and who dies.....even passively.....is a bad idea.
6. Require up-or-down votes in Congress for every Federal regulation. Usual veto rules to apply.
7. Relocate the seat of Federal government to Thule.
8. Require everyone involved with regulations or legislation found unconstitutional to be removed from public office and forever barred from returning.
9. Forbid the Federal government from ANY role w/r/t education -- they shouldn't be in the propaganda business.
10. Balanced budget with reserve fund.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 12:30 AM (EzgxV)

451
Fax machine jokes. Another cultural icon made obsolete by technology. e-mail jokes just aren't quite the same.

Every time I see a joke about a free AOL disk I think the same thing.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 10, 2016 12:31 AM (k4M/B)

452 So, I have 8(!) kids from other women, and two more with my current wife.

On Mother's Day, the wife gave birth to twins...

...but, see, I've had a vasectomy.

"Magic bullets" or should I be calling Maury?!

Posted by: Antonio Cromartie, NFL cornerback at May 10, 2016 12:32 AM (H9MG5)

453 AOP and Jay, if the "sushi" leaps itself into your mouth for you, that's a bad sign :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 12:10 AM (ntObR)

An ex-girlfriend insisted that I try spider rolls. It did resemble tiny little deep-fried facehugger.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 10, 2016 12:32 AM (ry34m)

454 "And that's when the satellite flew right past Mars and off into space."

Ya know, honestly, when interviewed for this job they didn't say shit about a satellite.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 10, 2016 12:32 AM (txsZC)

455 Kindltot, yick :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 12:36 AM (ntObR)

456 "Whip inflation now" - bad sign.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 10, 2016 12:15 AM (oKE6c)

Spannichen windtortes are the most affected

Posted by: Kindltot at May 10, 2016 12:36 AM (ry34m)

457 Nite MH, sorry I missed you.

What have I missed in the last 400+ comments? Just got home from AZ. Too late to get the doggehs from the vets, but I guess the cat missed us.

She stayed at home, neighbors took care of her, and she missed us so much she puked up a hairball on our bed. TY Butterscotch.

Posted by: Farmer at May 10, 2016 12:37 AM (o/90i)

458 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you.

There y'go. Plain and simple.

Good night, and sweet dreams, folks.

Posted by: mindful webworker said simplistically at May 10, 2016 12:38 AM (gJBE5)

459 And too late to get sushi. The place closed at 9:30 my time.

Will go tomorrow for lunch, will be less crowded and I can eat there. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 12:38 AM (ntObR)

460 mindful, thanks :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 12:39 AM (ntObR)

461 1. Reverse Wickard v. Filburn.
2. Reverse Kelo
3. Reverse NFIB v. Sibelius (Obamacare I)
4. Reverse King v. Burwell (Obamacare II)
5. Forbid the Federal government from ANY role w/r/t healthcare. That includes the CDC, FDA, DEA, HHS, and Medicare. It ain't in Article 1, Section 8 -- and giving the Feds the right to determine who lives and who dies.....even passively.....is a bad idea.
6. Require up-or-down votes in Congress for every Federal regulation. Usual veto rules to apply.
7. Relocate the seat of Federal government to Thule.
8. Require everyone involved with regulations or legislation found unconstitutional to be removed from public office and forever barred from returning.
9. Forbid the Federal government from ANY role w/r/t education -- they shouldn't be in the propaganda business.
10. Balanced budget with reserve fund.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 12:30 AM (EzgxV)

++++

Mostly looks good.

Except Kelo. What would you replace that with? Government needs to power of eminent domain. If it should be restricted, describe how. If only for publicly owned land, what about stuff like train tracks, pipelines, etc. Must they all be government owned?

And what about Thule? You mean the cave in Kentucky? lol

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 12:39 AM (R+30W)

462 Doppler radar.

So there's now a doppler-based chronograph for shooters to measure velocity of their reloads. Pretty handy looking. No screens to shoot through (and not unit to *shoot up by mistake*), no messy set-up. Think it's called Lab Radar. But ..... so far I just haven't found a chrony to be neccessary, and - around $600.

So there was this other doppler radar chronograph. It was part of the last upgrade to the fire-control systems on the USS Iowa-class battleships, for the main battery of 16" guns.

By measuring projectile velocity (which varied by lot of powder bags used), adjustments could be made to the fire control solution to increase accuracy.

Now in this case I feel I MUST have this system. With of course, the guns to go along with it. Must. And cost is no object. So get cracking folks, let's make this happen.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2016 12:42 AM (QDnY+)

463 Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 12:30 AM (EzgxV)

Yeah.... but instead we get Laws and Lawsuits about where we Piss...

And of course... we now have a National Mammal, the Bison.... because the Republican Congress doesn't have anything else to do apparently...

Posted by: Don Quixote at May 10, 2016 12:42 AM (qf6WZ)

464 Hasta.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 10, 2016 12:44 AM (txsZC)

465 But where does the Bison piss?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 10, 2016 12:44 AM (k4M/B)

466 I'd like to add Roe and Obergefell to cooth's list...

Oh, and Thule? How about Shemya? Keep it the US and all that...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 10, 2016 12:44 AM (kP16F)

467 It's doing its Nixon impression: "I am not a crustacean!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 12:14 AM (ntObR)

Nixon meeting with Elvis = https://youtu.be/tDZy6-fMCw4

Posted by: The Shelled Hat at May 10, 2016 12:45 AM (vBeA5)

468 Just passin some time at the emergency vet (I'm thinking now it's just an infection but waiting for the doc). Re: the tornado videos. I saw a tweet from Roger Pielke Sr wishing some billionaire would take an interest in weather like they're doing with space.

Posted by: stace. Ahoy at May 10, 2016 12:47 AM (e8nnW)

469 465 But where does the Bison piss?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 10, 2016 12:44 AM (k4M/B)

anywhere he wants...

/rimshot

Posted by: Don Quixote at May 10, 2016 12:47 AM (qf6WZ)

470 I'd like to add Roe and Obergefell to cooth's list...

Oh, and Thule? How about Shemya? Keep it the US and all that...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 10, 2016 12:44 AM (kP16F)

Divide the capital into three districts across the country far away from each other. Also, prohibit residency in those districts.

Posted by: The Amending Hat at May 10, 2016 12:47 AM (vBeA5)

471 But where does the Bison piss?

At 1400 lbs, wherever it damn well pleases.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 10, 2016 12:48 AM (T/cxb)

472 Above all else, we need an Amendment to explain explicitly the principles by which the Constitution must be construed, with explicit mention that it's not a tax!

Posted by: The Amending Hat at May 10, 2016 12:49 AM (vBeA5)

473 >>>And of course... we now have a National Mammal, the
Bison.... because the Republican Congress doesn't have anything else to
do apparently...

Posted by: Don Quixote at May 10, 2016 12:42 AM (qf6WZ)<<<

biSONS?! That is an outrage! What about biDAUGHTERS!!!???!!!

Posted by: feminazis at May 10, 2016 12:49 AM (H9MG5)

474 461 1. Reverse Wickard v. Filburn.
2. Reverse Kelo
3. Reverse NFIB v. Sibelius (Obamacare I)
4. Reverse King v. Burwell (Obamacare II)
5. Forbid the Federal government from ANY role w/r/t healthcare. That includes the CDC, FDA, DEA, HHS, and Medicare. It ain't in Article 1, Section 8 -- and giving the Feds the right to determine who lives and who dies.....even passively.....is a bad idea.
6. Require up-or-down votes in Congress for every Federal regulation. Usual veto rules to apply.
7. Relocate the seat of Federal government to Thule.
8. Require everyone involved with regulations or legislation found unconstitutional to be removed from public office and forever barred from returning.
9. Forbid the Federal government from ANY role w/r/t education -- they shouldn't be in the propaganda business.
10. Balanced budget with reserve fund.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 12:30 AM (EzgxV)

++++

Mostly looks good.

Except Kelo. What would you replace that with? Government needs to power of eminent domain. If it should be restricted, describe how. If only for publicly owned land, what about stuff like train tracks, pipelines, etc. Must they all be government owned?

And what about Thule? You mean the cave in Kentucky? lol

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 12:39 AM (R+30W)

Kelo said that private concerns (government cronies) could use government power for eminent domain for private developments. The alternative is that government must create a government project to use it.

By "Thule", I meant "Peterson AFB, Thule".

And for a bonus amendment -- 11. The Federal Government may not own or control more than 2% of the land mass of any state or territory. Ownership and control of any excess land must be devolved to the States, or the People, within 24 hours of this Amendment's ratification.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 12:53 AM (EzgxV)

475 8. Require everyone involved with regulations or legislation found unconstitutional to be removed from public office and forever barred from returning.

++++

Don't think that one would really work. If SCOTUS strikes down a law, that means every congress critter that voted to pass the law, plus the president if he didn't veto and get overridden, would all have to be removed from office. On the say so of 5 justices, at least half of our elected officials would be removed from office. Lots of potential for abuse, plus you would likely have the effect that SCOTUS would be reluctant to find anything unconstitutional because of the huge impact it would have on the government.

Plus, what about state governments. SCOTUS says some state law is unconstitutional, like the tranny one in NC, and all of a sudden, most of a state government is thrown out of office.

I think you need to rethink that one.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 12:53 AM (R+30W)

476 Now in this case I feel I MUST have this system.
With of course, the guns to go along with it. Must. And cost is no
object. So get cracking folks, let's make this happen.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2016 12:42 AM (QDnY+)

How would you love to have that miniaturized to mount on the picatinny rails, next to the laser, the scope and the hot-ball anemometer to measure wind-strength?

Posted by: Kindltot at May 10, 2016 12:53 AM (ry34m)

477 472 Above all else, we need an Amendment to explain explicitly the principles by which the Constitution must be construed, with explicit mention that it's not a tax!

Posted by: The Amending Hat at May 10, 2016 12:49 AM (vBeA5)

And that the ONLY reason the Constitution is not a suicide pact, is that it can be amended...

NOT ignored by the Judiciary because... shut up!

Posted by: Don Quixote at May 10, 2016 12:53 AM (qf6WZ)

478 471 But where does the Bison piss?

At 1400 lbs, wherever it damn well pleases.

Or poop. They'll jump over or go through most normal fences. It's amazing how high those boogers can jump. We have a picture of a bull drinking out of our pool. It came from many miles away and jumped a pretty tall fence to get a drink.

Posted by: stace. Ahoy at May 10, 2016 12:54 AM (e8nnW)

479 At 1400 lbs, wherever it damn well pleases.
Posted by: Blanco Basura
--------------

My father's family spent a good deal of time in Cuba (pre-Commie). The sugarcane carts were pulled by oxen. My dad said that if they were standing around a cart on a paved road, and one of the oxen pissed, everyone scattered as there was ox piss splattering everywhere.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 10, 2016 12:54 AM (9mTYi)

480 Found a cartoon with Gadget arguing with the lads about wearing pants and she's not wearing any either! I'd link to it but I'd rather not. (chipmunk snootch!)

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 10, 2016 12:55 AM (kP16F)

481 It came from many miles away and jumped a pretty tall fence to get a drink.
Posted by: stace
---------------

Upside - I hear that bison patties make good fuel.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 10, 2016 12:56 AM (9mTYi)

482 450 Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 12:30 AM (EzgxV)

Appreciate response. Was catching up on reading other comments and saw some other responses to IG's post.

Part of my question was about the support of the proposed amendments.

Support on some of the suggestions seems to have swung the other way.

Will however the convention turns out be satisfying to those who pushed for one?

Once amendments are part of the Constitution, will the unsatisfied withdaw support for the US Constitution ?

What next ?

Posted by: dDan at May 10, 2016 12:57 AM (hwYmz)

483 Go go Gadget pants.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 10, 2016 12:58 AM (k4M/B)

484
Upside - I hear that bison patties make good fuel.

Yes I remember seeing in Yellowstone all the little geyser features fenced off from humans for safety. The little safety enclosures were filled with bison pies. Buffalo don't give a shit.

Posted by: stace at May 10, 2016 01:01 AM (e8nnW)

485 Time for me to hit the hay. Night, all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 10, 2016 01:02 AM (ZAWdJ)

486 >>>Plus, what about state governments. SCOTUS says some
state law is unconstitutional, like the tranny one in NC, and all of a
sudden, most of a state government is thrown out of office.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 12:53 AM (R+30W)<<<

The insanity of SCOTUS brings to mind another I don't think was mentioned.

Determine a way for states to nullify a SCOTUS decision. Two thirds of state legislatures (say, within a year of the decision being handed down) can vote to stomp the shit out of a ridiculous ruling. This way the tyrants in black robes don't have the super-ultimate-mega-whammy power no mo'

Posted by: The Founding Fathers, who didn't sigh up for that shit at May 10, 2016 01:02 AM (H9MG5)

487 Kelo said that private concerns (government cronies) could use government power for eminent domain for private developments. The alternative is that government must create a government project to use it.

By "Thule", I meant "Peterson AFB, Thule".

And for a bonus amendment -- 11. The Federal Government may not own or control more than 2% of the land mass of any state or territory. Ownership and control of any excess land must be devolved to the States, or the People, within 24 hours of this Amendment's ratification.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 12:53 AM (EzgxV)

++++

The Keystone Pipeline project is not a public one. It is private enterprise, but still needs government help with eminent domain.

The problem with the Kelo case was not a constitutional one. Local government officials made stupid choices, but that doesn't mean they violated the constitution.

Do you really want it to be the case that something like Keystone can never be build unless the government owns and operates it?

I would rather have stuff like that be privatized when possible. If government officials make bad choices, let elections sort it out (plus law enforcement in the case of bribery, etc).

Thule airbase is located in Greenland, which I'm guessing you know. As much fun as it would be to stick all the DC types up at the North Pole, I think we need to keep them on US soil.

I do like the bonus amendment though.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 01:02 AM (R+30W)

488 Meant to post this last night on VE day:
-----
The beaten foe emerged.

All over the broad Atlantic, wherever they had been working or lying hid, the U-boats surfaced, confessing the war's end. A few of them, prompted by determination or struck by guilt, scuttled or destroyed themselves, or ran for shelter, not knowing that there was none; but mostly they did what they had been told to do, mostly they hoisted their black surrender flags, and stayed where they were, and waited for orders.

They rose, dripping and silent, in the Irish Sea, and at the mouth of the Clyde, and off the Lizard in the English Channel, at the top of the Minches where the tides raced; they rose near Iceland, where Compass Rose was sunk and off the north-west tip of Ireland, and close to the Faeroes, and on the Gibraltar run where the sunk ships lay so thick, and near St. Johns and Halifax and in the deep of the Atlantic, with three thousand fathoms of water beneath their keel.

They surfaced in secret places, betraying themselves and their frustrated plans: they rose within sight of land, they rose far away in mortal waters, where on the map of the battle, the crosses that were the sunken ships were etched so many and so close that the ink ran together. They surfaced above their handiwork, in hatred or in fear, sometimes snarling their continued rage, sometimes accepting thankfully a truce they had never offered to other ships, other sailors.

They rose, and lay wherever they were on the battlefield, waiting for the victors to claim their victory.

- Nicolas Monsarrat ("V.E. Day," from The Cruel Sea)

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 10, 2016 01:02 AM (9mTYi)

489 sign... though we are sighing an awful lot.

'Cause apparently you couldn't keep it.

Posted by: The Founding Fathers, who didn't sign up for that shit at May 10, 2016 01:04 AM (H9MG5)

490 Mmmm, just finished some ramen with Kikkoman teriyaki sauce. Good stuff.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 01:07 AM (ntObR)

491 Upside - I hear that bison patties make good fuel.

Never underestimate the power of methane gas...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 01:08 AM (ntObR)

492
The Keystone Pipeline project is not a public one. It is private enterprise, but still needs government help with eminent domain.
...
Yes, pipelines that are common carriers and other utilities can condemn. The public needs roads and energy transmission.

That doesn't mean that Hyatt can condemn a Motel 6 so the city can increase its tax base, which is what Kelo allowed. Trump will never get that, which is why he should never be president.

Posted by: stace at May 10, 2016 01:09 AM (e8nnW)

493 'Cause apparently you couldn't keep it.
Posted by: The Founding Fathers, who didn't sign up for that shit
-------------

They tried to anticipate everything... they did anticipate everything, except the decay of morality. The sort of moral corruption that is brought on by complacency.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 10, 2016 01:11 AM (9mTYi)

494 475 8. Require everyone involved with regulations or legislation found unconstitutional to be removed from public office and forever barred from returning.

++++

Don't think that one would really work. If SCOTUS strikes down a law, that means every congress critter that voted to pass the law, plus the president if he didn't veto and get overridden, would all have to be removed from office. On the say so of 5 justices, at least half of our elected officials would be removed from office. Lots of potential for abuse, plus you would likely have the effect that SCOTUS would be reluctant to find anything unconstitutional because of the huge impact it would have on the government.

Plus, what about state governments. SCOTUS says some state law is unconstitutional, like the tranny one in NC, and all of a sudden, most of a state government is thrown out of office.

I think you need to rethink that one.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 12:53 AM (R+30W)

No, it's meant to eventually bar the entire Ruling Class from Federal government, by making it a "one-and-done" sort of club. Would it help if it were changed to "shot"?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 01:12 AM (EzgxV)

495 Found a cartoon with Gadget arguing with the lads about wearing pants
and she's not wearing any either! I'd link to it but I'd rather not.
(chipmunk snootch!)

Fine, I'll do it: https://youtu.be/kbg0ycJGAa0 (nsfw)

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 10, 2016 01:13 AM (T/cxb)

496 That doesn't mean that Hyatt can condemn a Motel
6 so the city can increase its tax base, which is what Kelo allowed.
Trump will never get that, which is why he should never be president.

Posted by: stace at May 10, 2016 01:09 AM (e8nnW)

But the alternative is Hillary, who actually killed people through her neglectful, America-hating incompetence.

The choice is yours, and choosing not to decide is still making a choice.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 10, 2016 01:14 AM (J+mig)

497 492
The Keystone Pipeline project is not a public one. It is private enterprise, but still needs government help with eminent domain.
...
Yes, pipelines that are common carriers and other utilities can condemn. The public needs roads and energy transmission.

That doesn't mean that Hyatt can condemn a Motel 6 so the city can increase its tax base, which is what Kelo allowed. Trump will never get that, which is why he should never be president.

Posted by: stace at May 10, 2016 01:09 AM (e8nnW)

++++

The constitution does not make the distinction you are describing. Condemn some land for a pipeline or a shopping center, it is all the same to the 5th amendment.

Maybe it should be changed. But, the Kelo decision was based on what the constitution says now. It was correctly decided.

Kelo was an outrage, but not because of what SCOTUS did. It was wrong because of what the city of New London, Connecticut did.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 01:16 AM (R+30W)

498 Mike Hammer, thanks. Nice.

Have been watching the TV coverage of Victory Day events in Russia throughout the day. Not as elaborate as last year's 70th anniversary, but still impressive.

Theme this time was the "Immortal Regiment", honoring all who served and fell. People carried photos of their relatives who took part in the war. Some interesting interviews with old ladies who were nurses or partisans in Crimea. Tough ladies.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2016 01:19 AM (QDnY+)

499
The constitution does not make the distinction you are describing.
Condemn some land for a pipeline or a shopping center, it is all the
same to the 5th amendment.

That's not true, 5th amendment says that the land must be "for public use"

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 10, 2016 01:20 AM (dpnZC)

500 487 Kelo said that private concerns (government cronies) could use government power for eminent domain for private developments. The alternative is that government must create a government project to use it.

By "Thule", I meant "Peterson AFB, Thule".

And for a bonus amendment -- 11. The Federal Government may not own or control more than 2% of the land mass of any state or territory. Ownership and control of any excess land must be devolved to the States, or the People, within 24 hours of this Amendment's ratification.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 12:53 AM (EzgxV)

++++

The Keystone Pipeline project is not a public one. It is private enterprise, but still needs government help with eminent domain.

The problem with the Kelo case was not a constitutional one. Local government officials made stupid choices, but that doesn't mean they violated the constitution.

Do you really want it to be the case that something like Keystone can never be build unless the government owns and operates it?

I would rather have stuff like that be privatized when possible. If government officials make bad choices, let elections sort it out (plus law enforcement in the case of bribery, etc).

Thule airbase is located in Greenland, which I'm guessing you know. As much fun as it would be to stick all the DC types up at the North Pole, I think we need to keep them on US soil.

I do like the bonus amendment though.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 01:02 AM (R+30W)

Regarding Thule -- I consider that a feature, not a bug. You have to remember, there are only so many good ideas for the Federal government in this world.....and 90% of them were enacted in the first five years. 99% of them were enacted in the first 50 years. 99.9% of them were enacted in the first 95 years; and 99.99% of them were enacted in the first 140 years. 99.999% of them were enacted in the first 185 years.....so legislation passed today has only a 0.0001% chance of being worth half a shit. I'd make 'em convene on the dark side of the moon if I could.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 01:22 AM (EzgxV)

501 Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 01:12 AM (EzgxV)

I think the part of Gov. Abbott's Texas Plan that revolves around allowing a supermajority of the states to override a Supreme Court decision would be a good balance to your original idea of throwing the bums out on their asses.Furthermore, that whenever a Supreme Court decision was invalidated by the States through such a vote, the Justices who voted for it would also be ejected from the court.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 10, 2016 01:24 AM (J+mig)

502 No, it's meant to eventually bar the entire Ruling Class from Federal government, by making it a "one-and-done" sort of club. Would it help if it were changed to "shot"?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 01:12 AM (EzgxV)

++++

Milton Friedman, speaking to Phil Donahue.
And what does reward virtue? You think the communist commissar rewards virtue? You think a Hitler rewards virtue? You think - excuse me, if you will pardon me - do you think American presidents reward virtue? Do they choose their appointees on the basis of the virtue of the people appointed or on the basis of their political clout? Is it really true that political self interest is nobler somehow than economic self interest? You know I think you are taking a lot of things for granted. Just tell me where in the world you find these angels who are going to organize society for us? Well, I don't even trust you to do that.

http://tinyurl.com/hzvh7v4

You are relying on SCOTUS to do the virtuous work of sorting out our ruling class and eliminating, one way or another, the bad apples. Just as Milton didn't trust anyone, I do not want to trust the likes of Sotomayor or even Roberts.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 01:24 AM (R+30W)

503 An ex-girlfriend insisted that I try spider rolls.

Posted by: Kindltot

Need anyone point out the problem here?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 10, 2016 01:25 AM (OcD4G)

504 And if condemning land on behalf of a private business is considered "for public use" since the business will pay more in taxes, then this means logically, all private property is "for public use" from a 5th amendment point of view, since all private property generates taxes on some level (excepting churches and the like)

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 10, 2016 01:25 AM (dpnZC)

505 How do bass trout strip? Do they wear pasties?

Look at the fins on THAT one !

Posted by: JT at May 10, 2016 01:25 AM (I8hK2)

506 An Article 5 convention is a constitutional convention. A constitutional convention is not necessarily an article 5 convention. I chose to use the term constitutional convention. You objected and wanted me to stop using the term in that context. My usage is correct, and I will continue to use it regardless of your preferences. You get to decide which term to use when you talk, but you don't get to make that choice for me.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 12:23 AM (R+30W)

****

I objected because you are wrong. Your desire to identify as correct does not over write the meaning of our language.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 10, 2016 01:25 AM (YLidQ)

507 >>>Furthermore, that whenever a Supreme Court decision
was invalidated by the States through such a vote, the Justices who
voted for it would also be ejected from the court.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 10, 2016 01:24 AM (J+mig)<<<

... via a catapult... into a volcano.

Posted by: much more betterer at May 10, 2016 01:27 AM (H9MG5)

508 Kindltot, no rails on my Mosins or Garands.

I plan on getting one Evil Black Rifle, just because and to have one, but otherwise I'm a horrible consumer, preferring mostly high-carbon steel and walnut (or arctic birch) items made before I was born.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2016 01:27 AM (QDnY+)

509 Note to self. Bring a blanket when u go to emergency vet. Dumb 80 lb bitch is shivering on the floor and she won't get in my lap even though I'm on the floor with her, but that's a good sign, lol. Good thing I've been doing Rippetoe's routine too. Had to carry her to the car, but now she's feeling better witH all the weird smells to smell.

Seriously, I'm stronger than my husband now, which is not saying much at this point, but thank God and Instapundit I can do the heavy lifting now.

Trimp can go to hell.

Posted by: stace at May 10, 2016 01:28 AM (e8nnW)

510 I'd make 'em convene on the dark side of the moon if I could.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 01:22 AM (EzgxV)

Say "hello" to Syd for us!

Posted by: Pink Floyd at May 10, 2016 01:28 AM (vBeA5)

511 I don't know how constitutional it is, but I would sure like every law to include an accountability clause so anyone who suffers from bonehead laws and regulations could sue the people behind it personally. So, for instance, any sanctuary city legislation would have to include the provision that anyone who lost a family member because of an undocumented alien could sue the mayor personally for damages.
I'd also like it if we could level the playing field for certain lawsuits by requiring the government to spend the same amount on prosecution that the defense does.
...and sue journalists for malpractice.

Posted by: vivi at May 10, 2016 01:31 AM (11H2y)

512 499
The constitution does not make the distinction you are describing.
Condemn some land for a pipeline or a shopping center, it is all the
same to the 5th amendment.

That's not true, 5th amendment says that the land must be "for public use"

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 10, 2016 01:20 AM (dpnZC)

++++

Shopping centers are designed for use by the public. Arguably, more so than a pipeline. Most shopping centers are open to anyone, at least anyone who wants to shop. I don't think I will be able to make direct use of Keystone, even if it does ever get completed. But, it still is to my benefit that fuel is able to be moved by pipeline rather than if it all has to be loaded in trucks and ships and whatnot to get moved. If the government built and operated the pipeline, it would still be moving privately owned fuel. Unless you want to make the government own all the fuel as well.

It is all public use, by some interpretations.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 01:31 AM (R+30W)

513 Mike H. I vaguely recall reading about the U-boat surrenders. It helped that Donitz had succeeded Hitler as commander in chief. I don't think there were any serious problems.

I know securing peaceful orderly surrender of the far-flung Japanese forces was a large concern for the Allies when Tokyo quit. Especially since - I believe - there was some Allied knowledge of the apocalyptic orders given to some regional commanders (though those specified an opposed invasion of the home islands as the triggering condition).

Gonna see if I can find a good history focused on that specific area. I'm only aware of treatments that are more vignettes, no comprehensive history using all the sources that have become available.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2016 01:32 AM (QDnY+)

514 501 Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 01:12 AM (EzgxV)

I think the part of Gov. Abbott's Texas Plan that revolves around allowing a supermajority of the states to override a Supreme Court decision would be a good balance to your original idea of throwing the bums out on their asses.Furthermore, that whenever a Supreme Court decision was invalidated by the States through such a vote, the Justices who voted for it would also be ejected from the court.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 10, 2016 01:24 AM (J+mig)

The greatest evil we face is those who are "entitled" to "public service". I'd favor a Constitutional Amendment that once a year a six sided die be publicly thrown -- and if it lands on six, a 20-sided die (marked to 10) be thrown to indicate the Federal employees whose SSN's end with that digit who will be effected. Then a final six sided die: 1, 2 -- nothing; 3, 4 -- dismissed; 5 -- dismissed and a lifetime ban on Federal employment; 6 -- death. Nothing personal.....but someone thinking they could embed themselves in a Federal agency like a tick on the body politic would get to think twice.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 01:32 AM (EzgxV)

515 But the alternative is Hillary, who actually killed people through her neglectful, America-hating incompetence.
The choice is yours, and choosing not to decide is still making a choice.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 10, 2016 01:14 AM

Agreed Cato. We just visited my in-laws in AZ, 85 and 83. It was an interesting convo about the election.

Started out, they and the wife thought Trump was a clown, as did I. The FIL expressed some Tump support as he is telling the truth and taking to the powers that be.

After the end of the trip, I'd bet 3 of us will vote for Trump in Nov, holding our noses. And even the MIL might, everyone HATED Hillary.

FIL, poor dude who is blind and mostly deaf is looking forward to the entertainment. LOL

Posted by: Farmer at May 10, 2016 01:33 AM (o/90i)

516 506 An Article 5 convention is a constitutional convention. A constitutional convention is not necessarily an article 5 convention. I chose to use the term constitutional convention. You objected and wanted me to stop using the term in that context. My usage is correct, and I will continue to use it regardless of your preferences. You get to decide which term to use when you talk, but you don't get to make that choice for me.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 12:23 AM (R+30W)

****

I objected because you are wrong. Your desire to identify as correct does not over write the meaning of our language.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 10, 2016 01:25 AM (YLidQ)

++++

And I provided a link to a legal dictionary which showed my usage was correct. And what do you have going for you? Some guy that wrote a blog post. He is not an authority, any more than you are.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 01:34 AM (R+30W)

517 It is all public use, by some interpretations.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 01:31 AM (R+30W)

****

And that right there is the weasel wording.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 10, 2016 01:36 AM (YLidQ)

518 The choice is yours, and choosing not to decide is still making a choice.

So choose your Destructor wisely!

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 10, 2016 01:38 AM (mUwyI)

519 Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 01:32 AM (EzgxV)

That's a little much for my taste. I'd simply arrange Federal Employee contracts into terms, and term limit them as well. No person may do more than three four-year terms as a Federal employee. These should never be permanent careers.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 10, 2016 01:40 AM (J+mig)

520 And I provided a link to a legal dictionary which showed my usage was correct. And what do you have going for you? Some guy that wrote a blog post. He is not an authority, any more than you are.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 01:34 AM (R+30W)

*****

But being correct supercedes some legal some dictionary entry, by some definitions. Right?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 10, 2016 01:41 AM (YLidQ)

521 >>>The choice is yours, and choosing not to decide is still making a choice.<<<

You'll be hearing from our lawyers.

Posted by: Rush (the band, not the talkshow host) at May 10, 2016 01:43 AM (H9MG5)

522 The greatest evil we face is those who are "entitled" to "public service". I'd favor a Constitutional Amendment that once a year a six sided die be publicly thrown -- and if it lands on six, a 20-sided die (marked to 10) be thrown to indicate the Federal employees whose SSN's end with that digit who will be effected. Then a final six sided die: 1, 2 -- nothing; 3, 4 -- dismissed; 5 -- dismissed and a lifetime ban on Federal employment; 6 -- death. Nothing personal.....but someone thinking they could embed themselves in a Federal agency like a tick on the body politic would get to think twice.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 01:32 AM

You have some good ideas there. Jules worked in the IL IDOT system for yrs. She left in disgust when they offered a good buyout and she could get out.

The F***s she worked w/ at times were totally corrupt. Some good dedicated people like her. Most were not so good.

Posted by: Farmer at May 10, 2016 01:43 AM (o/90i)

523 I'm out. Have fun Squeaky.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 10, 2016 01:45 AM (YLidQ)

524 Theme this time was the "Immortal Regiment", honoring all who served and fell. People carried photos of their relatives who took part in the war. Some interesting interviews with old ladies who were nurses or partisans in Crimea. Tough ladies.
------------

The next book in my stack is 'Russia's War', by a fellow named Richard Ovary. One supposes that the poor fellow has had to endure jokes about his name for his entire life.

Anyhow, I'm looking forward to the book.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 10, 2016 01:47 AM (9mTYi)

525 517 It is all public use, by some interpretations.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 01:31 AM (R+30W)

****

And that right there is the weasel wording.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 10, 2016 01:36 AM (YLidQ)

++++

public

1. of, belonging to, or concerning the people as a whole; of or by the community at large: the public welfare, a public outcry
2. for the use or benefit of all; esp., supported by government funds: a public park
3. as regards community, rather than private, affairs
4. acting in an official capacity on behalf of the people as a whole: a public prosecutor
5. known by, or open to the knowledge of, all or most people: to make information public, a public figure
6. Finance owned by shareholders whose shares can be freely traded, as on an exchange: a public company

http://tinyurl.com/z675akr

That's just one dictionary. The constitution says "public use", but it doesn't define the term. Public, get this, has more than one meaning. It can mean land owned by the government, but it doesn't necessarily mean that.

So, people interpret it different ways. When the founders said "nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation", did they mean that the government was not allowed to use eminent domain to condemn some land to be use by a private enterprise running a pipeline or a shopping center or a housing development? It sure doesn't say that.

But you go ahead. Go find some blog post somewhere by someone nobody ever heard of and make an argument by appeal to authority.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 01:47 AM (R+30W)

526 G'night everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 10, 2016 01:48 AM (T/cxb)

527 Go find some blog post somewhere by someone nobody ever heard of and make an argument by appeal to authority.
...
Unecessary. Read the SCOTUS opinion on Kelo. Thomas, Scalia, O' Connor and Renquist side with me. Ginsberg, Kennedy, Breyer and Souter side with Trump.

Yes, that's an appeal to authority, but it's a very telling one.

Trump should never be president.

Posted by: stace at May 10, 2016 01:53 AM (e8nnW)

528 Mike, gonna check into that book right now.

My "stack" is my wish list at the public library (after the wife turned me on to that vs. buying for myself). It's a pretty big stack at this point.

Oddly my eastern front reading has been limited, given the language study and the fact I've actually been to some of those battlefields. Found an online site where I can watch Soviet war movies, another good language practice tool.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 10, 2016 01:55 AM (QDnY+)

529 God I hope someone is unsure of the safety of the Ferrets, so someone goes to check, and falls and gets stuck under a rock, thus having to drink his own urine for the amusement of tens of thousands of filipinos.

Posted by: Rbastid at May 10, 2016 01:55 AM (XwTyM)

530 Goodnight all, thanks for the great chat.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 01:57 AM (ntObR)

531 stace - I certainly hope your doggeh is OK. I spent a terrible weekend with our little dog. Very little sleep, one visit to regular Vet, hours at emergency Vet.

I won't go into it, but we damn near lost her. It looks like she's turned the corner, but it was a near thing, and she still has a way to go. Sweetest little critter you ever met, scared as hell, and helpless.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 10, 2016 01:58 AM (9mTYi)

532 527 Go find some blog post somewhere by someone nobody ever heard of and make an argument by appeal to authority.
...
Unecessary. Read the SCOTUS opinion on Kelo. Thomas, Scalia, O' Connor and Renquist side with me. Ginsberg, Kennedy, Breyer and Souter side with Trump.

Yes, that's an appeal to authority, but it's a very telling one.

Trump should never be president.

Posted by: stace at May 10, 2016 01:53 AM (e8nnW)

++++

Yes, that is a respectable appeal to authority. I think the majority was correct though as far as what the constitution says. I would not have a problem if the constitution was amended to make things like Kelo out of bounds, but I would not like to see something like the Keystone pipeline thrown out as well. It is better to have the Keystone project a possibility, even if it stays in private hands.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 02:07 AM (R+30W)

533 Posted by: qdpsteve at May 10, 2016 01:57 AM

Nite gdpsteve et al. Been a long day getting home.
Be well you Morons.

Posted by: Farmer at May 10, 2016 02:12 AM (o/90i)

534
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 02:07 AM (R+30W)
The problem with the majority's opinion in Kelo is that it blurs the distinction between public ownership and private ownership.
Under Kelo, is there really any such thing as truly *private* property anymore? That is the disturbing part.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 10, 2016 02:20 AM (uAvJJ)

535 Ah, Mike, thanks. I hope your little sweetie continues to improve! Please keep me posted.

I think my dogtard is going to be ok for now. Waiting for blood work and they want to keep her overnight for fluids and antibiotics. She's 12, and tests last week have shown she has an enlarged heart and may need more work later.

My husband is having surgery tomorrow, and when I came home drunk from a family gathering tonight to check on him the dog wouldn't get up for her treat and potty. Hence our little outing tonight.

I'll be thinking of your little doggeh

Posted by: stace at May 10, 2016 02:21 AM (e8nnW)

536 Is my property really *my* property, or is it "public" property that the government hasn't yet seized? After all, if they seized my property and handed it to some developer, I"m sure they could derive more tax money from it...

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 10, 2016 02:21 AM (uAvJJ)

537 stace, so sorry about your puppeh, and your husband

(not necessarily in that order)

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 10, 2016 02:22 AM (uAvJJ)

538 536 Is my property really *my* property, or is it "public" property that the government hasn't yet seized? After all, if they seized my property and handed it to some developer, I"m sure they could derive more tax money from it...

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 10, 2016 02:21 AM (uAvJJ)

++++

You could say the same thing if they took your land to put in some railroad tracks. One solution would be to say that your land could be seized, but only if the government owned and operated the tracks. I prefer the solution where the government allows the tracks built and operated and owned by private interests.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 02:26 AM (R+30W)

539 Is everything about Windows completely retarded?!?!?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 02:26 AM (EzgxV)

540 I would not like to see something like the Keystone pipeline thrown out as well. It is better to have the Keystone project a possibility, even if it stays in private hands.
...

Sure, but that goes for most pipelines, transmission lines etc. right now my family is in negotiation with a nat gas pipeline company for the easement, and if we don't agree, they will just condemn it. That's long been the law here and no one has a problem with the concept.. There is rumbling though about how easy it is for some pipelines to get the common carrier designation, but that's another issue. Keystone is just one of thousands of pipelines crossing private property. It's not a new deal.

Posted by: stace at May 10, 2016 02:28 AM (e8nnW)

541 539 Is everything about Windows completely retarded?!?!?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 02:26 AM (EzgxV)

++++

lol
Which version are you banging your head against?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 02:28 AM (R+30W)

542 540 I would not like to see something like the Keystone pipeline thrown out as well. It is better to have the Keystone project a possibility, even if it stays in private hands.
...

Sure, but that goes for most pipelines, transmission lines etc. right now my family is in negotiation with a nat gas pipeline company for the easement, and if we don't agree, they will just condemn it. That's long been the law here and no one has a problem with the concept.. There is rumbling though about how easy it is for some pipelines to get the common carrier designation, but that's another issue. Keystone is just one of thousands of pipelines crossing private property. It's not a new deal.

Posted by: stace at May 10, 2016 02:28 AM (e8nnW)

++++

Of course it isn't new. The railroads are even older.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 02:33 AM (R+30W)

543 Thanks, chemjeff! I think they'll both be ok soon, but they need to stop coordinating their illnesses! They each had fairly minor surgeries a few weeks ago. Twin surgery was kind of funny the first time but now not so cute!

Posted by: stace at May 10, 2016 02:39 AM (e8nnW)

544 did we sort out the Loperamide issue up thread, or is that shit still active?

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 10, 2016 02:39 AM (MA9r2)

545
541 539 Is everything about Windows completely retarded?!?!?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 02:26 AM (EzgxV)

++++

lol
Which version are you banging your head against?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 02:28 AM (R+30W)

8.1 -- I've dealt with Microsoft all the way back to MSDOS 1.0, and I've never seen anything as stupid and cumbersome as this piece of shit. Scroll off to the right, tiles grouped by vendor (not by function).....scroll off to the bottom, programs. Scroll off to the right of the programs, you get additional programs grouped by vendor (not by function). It's all about Brand being more important than What It Does. And, frankly, the Microsoft and HP brands are not what they once were.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 02:43 AM (EzgxV)

546

Of course it isn't new. The railroads are even older.
...
Yep. They're burying a pipeline under some unused pasture and were requiring it to be put back to native grass with preserved topsoil.

Under Kelo they could bulldoze our ranch house and build a hotel so the county wouldn't have to settle for piddly ag use tax valuation.

Posted by: stace at May 10, 2016 02:44 AM (e8nnW)

547 544 did we sort out the Loperamide issue up thread, or is that shit still active?

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 10, 2016 02:39 AM (MA9r2)

I think that shit is still stalled.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 02:44 AM (EzgxV)

548 "7. Relocate the seat of Federal government to Thule."

as an alternative, i'd suggest the far north east corner of Ft Irwin, or the western outskirts of Tooele Army Depot.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 10, 2016 02:44 AM (MA9r2)

549 Eniwetok is still a US possession, so that is also a possible alternative, as is Midway Island

Ft Wainwright is another.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 10, 2016 02:46 AM (MA9r2)

550 It is all public use, by some interpretations.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2016 01:31 AM (R+30W)

That's the problem.

It should be limited to use by government, which must show demonstratable need with no better alternative, or by the actual public in accordance with the Charter of the Forest, with even more difficult barriers.

Also, anything that is taken must not only give full compensation, but also must accept all debts attached to that property, with the owner given the benefit of the doubt.

Posted by: The Landed Hat at May 10, 2016 02:47 AM (vBeA5)

551
549 Eniwetok is still a US possession, so that is also a possible alternative, as is Midway Island

Ft Wainwright is another.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 10, 2016 02:46 AM (MA9r2)

It's not enough that it merely be remote....it must also be dangerous.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 02:47 AM (EzgxV)

552 Posted by: The Landed Hat at May 10, 2016 02:47 AM (vBeA5)

Get my email?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 02:48 AM (EzgxV)

553 because i had to LOL at loperimide being taken for a "high"...

no one wants the gory details, but if i take more than two or three over a short period of time, i get the jitters, not a high... i'd hate to think what 50 or more would do.

the old school Lomotil (diphenoxylate/atropine) allegedly *did* have the ability to generate a high, which is why they added the atropine, which would make taking more than the recommended dose *highly* unattractive.

the FDA gets a lot of things wrong, but i'm fairly confident they didn't sneak an opiod analogue onto the OTC market with Imodium.

as for pseudoephedrine, no one extracts meth from it: it's a precursor chemical, which has to be transformed, via chemical processes, to become meth.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 10, 2016 02:53 AM (MA9r2)

554 Is everything about Windows completely retarded?!?!?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 02:26 AM (EzgxV)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJxL6nsBJqg

Also, what it's like when Windows FAILS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPMSLR-NiOc

Posted by: ME-tan at May 10, 2016 02:53 AM (vBeA5)

555 Posted by: The Landed Hat at May 10, 2016 02:47 AM (vBeA5)

Get my email?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 02:48 AM (EzgxV)

Responded.

Posted by: The emailing Hat at May 10, 2016 02:59 AM (vBeA5)

556 Eniwetok = nuclear testing site. 'nuff said

Tooele = chemical weapons testing site (they got rid of the storage facility, but still)

NE Planet Irwin: right next to Death Valley. that covers it. here's your canteen, an MRE and a shelter half: we'll be back tomorrow, same time with re-supply.

Midway, wall to wall F all, all 2.4 square miles of it. there's your limited government in a nut shell.

Wainwright has Alaska winters. think your average politician or lobbyist is smart enough not to naturally select?

Vegas could run pools every year on an Alaska location: who dies of exposure, who gets mauled by a bear, trampled by a moose, etc, with Sarah Palin giving the updates.

win/win

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 10, 2016 03:01 AM (MA9r2)

557 side bar, w/ no details because OPSEC, but the local, LOCAL elections are now officially over, due to challenges, and the entrenched local PTB are officially off the island after years of doing whatever they, and their masters at the City level wanted....

woot!

now, to win the peace, and also make it hard for this shit to happen again.

it all starts at the bottom, people. maybe i should find out about how the local GOP does things and get in there?

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 10, 2016 03:06 AM (MA9r2)

558 yet no one ever e-mails me...

just add at drunkenbastards dot org to my nick

especially if you're here in #Failifornia: we need to stick together.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 10, 2016 03:08 AM (MA9r2)

559 looks like i killed the thread...

go me!

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 10, 2016 03:38 AM (MA9r2)

560 559 looks like i killed the thread...

go me!

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 10, 2016 03:38 AM (MA9r2)

It's not always all about you -- sometimes there's a beer run.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 10, 2016 03:43 AM (EzgxV)

561 Great ONT, NDH! So many fascinating things. That geo-orbital wheel and the Parkinson's device are both really cool. I'm glad middle-aged insomnia woke me up in the middle of the night so I had time to check it out!

The Walker graphic at the end made me a little sad, though. Walker/ Cruz was my dream ticket. Sigh.

Posted by: Gem at May 10, 2016 03:52 AM (c+gwp)

562 It's not always all about you -- sometimes there's a beer run.

so, what did you get us?

/hoping for an IPA

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 10, 2016 04:17 AM (MA9r2)

563 or is that hopping?

;-)

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 10, 2016 04:18 AM (MA9r2)

564 New shift starting,
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at May 10, 2016 04:29 AM (3wHFl)

565 Morgens.

Posted by: blaster at May 10, 2016 04:56 AM (2Ocf1)

566 Night all.

Here is "Ride on shooting star" by The Pillows:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4_Qzx-E2LQ

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 10, 2016 05:03 AM (vBeA5)

567 Good Morning Morons. Today is Tuesday, May 10, 2016. On this day in 1869 the First Transcontinental Railroad, linking the eastern and western United States, was completed at Promontory Summit, Utah with the golden spike. The railroad was not actually completed, but like most of the stuff with this railroad they said it was for PR purposes. This was probably the first really massive example of crony corruption in the US. It was started in 1863 during the uncivil war. The building of the railroad was rife with corruption and the companies involved went bankrupt 3 years after the government subsidies stopped. Sound familiar. And like most Washington boondoggles the entertainment industry has glorified it to the sky while never mentioning the corruption that was ongoing.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 05:57 AM (vvmPQ)

568 Before we move on to today's news I want to comment on the link and item that Y-NOT put in the sidebar concerning the attack on common sense bathroom laws.

The 4th Circuit Court of Appeals, which holds judicial sway over the Carolinas and four other states, ruled last month in a lawsuit filed by a Virginia transgender student that the federal government has the right to define discrimination as it sees fit. [Y-not]

That was a direct quote from the Charlotte Observer which like all big city newspapers is a liberal rag that can not be trusted. It took me a while but I was able to find a pdf file of the written judgment of the court and the dissent. This was 69 pages long and that should give you a hint as to how the liberals buffaloed the court. I have noted during my long practice of following the courts that the longer a written judgment is the more likely it is to be made up BS. This one conforms to that quite well. Note that the appeal which caused this to make it to the 4th circuit was to the lower court ruling which denied the plaintiff an emergency stay of the local school regulations which required this person who was born as a female to use the female bathrooms and dressing rooms. The case was actually brought by that paragon of liberal destruction, the ACLU.

The ruling is a long diatribe of conflicting statements all made in legal jargon to confound the average citizen. But you can boil it down to one thing; the Title IX law which the complaint was based on failed to define what sex means with regard to a male and a female. I suppose that the people who wrote that massively crappy law passed in 1972 assumed that was within the realm of historical common sense and when that POS law was written it was.

But in the end, the majority of the court ruled that gender identity by the plaintiff controlled what sex the person was and despite the fact that they even referenced that the plaintiff had a mental illness:

gender dysphoria, a medical condition characterized by clinically significant distress caused by an incongruence between a person's gender identity and the person's birth-assigned sex.

They also openly admitted that Title IX permitted the common sense arrangement of separate facilities for males and females. But they disagreed with the lower court ruling denying a stay. They hinted all over the fact that if left to them they would have ruled that the schools should force the students to have coed bathrooms, dressing room, etc. But they did NOT rule that. They issued a three part order that was really nothing more than sending the case back to the lower court to reconsider its ruling. And I boil all of this down with one statement, the reporter who wrote that newspaper article is a liar. Nowhere in this ruling did it say that the federal government was allowed to define discrimination in any manner it sees fit.

Sorry this got so long. If you wish to read this POS ruling you may find it by Binging C.G. v Gloucester County School Board. Now on to the news.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 05:59 AM (vvmPQ)

569 Illegal alien who enlisted in the Marines and was subsequently kicked out and deported because he lied on his Marine Corps enlistment papers now has been reclassified as a citizen. While I agree that after serving in a combat zone (or serving 6 years) under current rules an immigrant can earn citizenship. I disagree with the way this case was handled. Under Obama I am sure that if he had been an illegal who was of white European non-muzzie extraction his case would have never seen the light of day. (Recall that German family who wanted to home school their children that were denied residency until a major flap arose). I also believe unvetted illegals should NOT be allowed to enlist in the Armed services. And by definition all illegals are unvetted.

http://fxn.ws/1qazipf

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 05:59 AM (vvmPQ)

570 I debated whether to link this or not, but here it is. Fox is making a big deal out of so-called corruption in Alabama government. One of the cases is not corruption at all, it is a judge who does not agree with SCOTUS's ruling on same sex marriage and who has outraged the SPLC by telling lower court judges not to issue marriage licenses for such. This is not corruption, it is common sense.

http://fxn.ws/21Rjc1y

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 05:59 AM (vvmPQ)

571 Obama thinks he is displaying manliness by sending a single destroyer to make a "drive-by" of the disputed islands in the South China Sea.

http://fxn.ws/1Np384L

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:00 AM (vvmPQ)

572 ISIS savages claim they have executed a female Russian spy who infiltrated their group.

http://fxn.ws/1OlfiX1

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:00 AM (vvmPQ)

573 Yet another Obama corrupt boondoggle for the phony AGW scam exposed by an audit.

A $25 million U.S.-funded project to help Guatemala combat global warming is being slammed as another taxpayer-backed boondoggle after a new audit highlighted a series of problems, including numerous inaccuracies in the group's work and a failure to produce a required long-term plan.

I suspect that it is nothing more than more crony corruption. IOW the Obama version of the credit mobilier scandal of 1872. But what will Obama do about this scandal? Nothing.

http://fxn.ws/1T2GR9K

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:00 AM (vvmPQ)

574 Man in the iron mask revealed for first time?

http://fxn.ws/23DRBQR

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:00 AM (vvmPQ)

575 Idiot tourist destroys a 126 year old statute of a Portuguese King trying to take a "selfie".

http://fxn.ws/1TyMVGv

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:01 AM (vvmPQ)

576 Hints of a future Scankles reign of terror.

In an apparent attempt to control who is able to talk to the candidate, and reduce the possibility of embarrassing moments, the Hillary Clinton campaign is severely restricting the crowd size at a Virginia event today. Not only that, but the campaign is hampering media coverage by allowing a pool reporter only.

Sounds exactly like the current corrupt administration but the press will still kiss her ass.

http://bit.ly/1TBB3Dk

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:01 AM (vvmPQ)

577 I am not normally a fan of Pat Buchanan, but here he has penned a blistering attack on RINO Ryan. I pretty much agree with everything in this paper.

http://bit.ly/1NoQEdb

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:01 AM (vvmPQ)

578
Not only is RINO Ryan a RINO, but he is also a hypocrite. While the left side of his mouth is agreeing with Obama to bring in hundreds of thousands of fake refugee muzzies the right side of his mouth is sending his children to a private school that screens out muzzie students.

http://bit.ly/1s8Os0f

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:01 AM (vvmPQ)

579 Convicted serial child rapist in Philly gets a short sentence of 196 years in jail. I apply the 100 year rule. What would they have done 100 years ago? This low life savage would have been hanged within a week of his arrest.

http://bit.ly/24HUu5o

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:02 AM (vvmPQ)

580
Signs of dissention in the Vatican? Not all the cardinals agree with the political pope's stance on the fake muzzie refugees.

http://bit.ly/1ZzTdtM

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:02 AM (vvmPQ)

581
RINO Ryan says he will step down as convention chair if.... Hey asshole, while you are at it step down from SOH too.

http://bit.ly/1WXlknB

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:02 AM (vvmPQ)

582 A small victory against the watermelons in CO.

http://bit.ly/1XiB70R

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:02 AM (vvmPQ)

583 Heritage says the "sequestration" act has been a massive failure. Indeed, Obama spends like a drunken sailor on first night of liberty call. The only real cuts I have seen have been on the military while socialism gets the bulk of the budget now.

http://dailysign.al/1T8nQVt

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:03 AM (vvmPQ)

584 Heritage excoriates Obama and the corrupt DOJ over their push for transgender bathroom access and abuse of Title IX. Personally that BS law should have never been passed and should be repealed. Its only accomplishment has been to end some schools sports programs and to act as a make work program for lawyers. Note that that horrid law was passed by a Democrat congress with the help of a few RINOs and signed into law by the most liberal Republican President in history, Nixon. The same one that gave us the EPA and Rucklesnot who banned DDT.

http://dailysign.al/23DXvRY

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:03 AM (vvmPQ)

585 Thank you German Obama. Muzzie asshole yelling muzzie cult crap goes on a rampage at a train station indiscriminately stabbing people with a knife.

http://fxn.ws/1rE4EWB

That's it for today folks. Still no update from Ramirez.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:03 AM (vvmPQ)

586 Morning all, my wife just loaded up in her parents car, driving to Deerfield MA, for a funeral. If you are up there look out, they are the ones driving the speed limit.

Posted by: Picric at May 10, 2016 06:07 AM (QnQ+g)

587 I get to stay here and mind the shop, and get kids to and from school.

Posted by: Picric at May 10, 2016 06:08 AM (QnQ+g)

588 587
I get to stay here and mind the shop, and get kids to and from school.

Posted by: Picric at May 10, 2016 06:08 AM (QnQ+g)

I would rather do that than go to a funeral. I hate funerals and weddings.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:10 AM (vvmPQ)

589 G'morning, all.

Posted by: WitSec location Coordinator at May 10, 2016 06:15 AM (ptqRm)

590 'Morning, horde.

Really nice ONT, NDH. Eclectic but comprehensive. Tornado pics were awesome.

Posted by: creeper at May 10, 2016 06:16 AM (ghfOx)

591 Ah, I see VNN is up. Scrolling back.

Posted by: creeper at May 10, 2016 06:17 AM (ghfOx)

592 Let's just take off that overnight sock...

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 10, 2016 06:21 AM (ptqRm)

593 Zombie in the sidebar -- What a great photo essay!

*required Moron reading*

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 10, 2016 06:21 AM (gyKtp)

594 567: And like most Washington boondoggles the entertainment industry has glorified it to the sky while never mentioning the corruption that was ongoing.

The AMC show Hell On Wheels sort of does.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 10, 2016 06:26 AM (MtgLX)

595 Thank you, Vic, good job.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 10, 2016 06:27 AM (P8951)

596 Trump 2016, or how I stopped worrying and learned to accept (but not love) President-Elect Clinton.

Posted by: DRayRaven at May 10, 2016 06:28 AM (Qc2Pk)

597 Our short Spring officially ended yesterday. The high yesterday topped out at 96.5F

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:29 AM (vvmPQ)

598 Vic, I'll trade you weather. They're predicting frost for us this weekend.

All the farmers were out planting over the weekend. I hope they don't regret it.

Posted by: creeper at May 10, 2016 06:34 AM (ghfOx)

599 I see most of the Morons are still acclimatized to the EMT starting at 0700.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:35 AM (vvmPQ)

600 The AMC show Hell On Wheels sort of does show crony corruption and in not a particularly flattering way.

I should finish my thought before posting.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 10, 2016 06:35 AM (MtgLX)

601 Its cool and rainy. Its putting a crimp on my golf game. I'll try to get out this afternoon.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 10, 2016 06:36 AM (MtgLX)

602 598
Vic, I'll trade you weather. They're predicting frost for us this weekend.

All the farmers were out planting over the weekend. I hope they don't regret it.

Posted by: creeper at May 10, 2016 06:34 AM (ghfOx)

Did you see my post yesterday where I think our late hard freeze killed my Japanese cherry tree while it was initially blooming?
But we haz global warming or something.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:36 AM (vvmPQ)

603 600
The AMC show Hell On Wheels sort of does show crony corruption and in not a particularly flattering way.

I should finish my thought before posting.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 10, 2016 06:35 AM (MtgLX)

Was that a movie are a syndicated show?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:37 AM (vvmPQ)

604 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:36 AM (vvmPQ)

Oh, no! Don't panic yet. It may come back.

Posted by: creeper at May 10, 2016 06:39 AM (ghfOx)

605 I see most of the Morons are still acclimatized to the EMT starting at 0700.

>>> >>>>>>>>>>

I miss the E,EMT.

Morning, glories.

Thanks Vic!

Posted by: Mortimer at May 10, 2016 06:42 AM (c6ndQ)

606 603: I don't know if it was a movie.

Pretty solid show. This is the fifth and final season.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 10, 2016 06:42 AM (MtgLX)

607 LOL, they just played an old hit I remember on the radio. White Silver Sands by Don Rondo from 1957.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:43 AM (vvmPQ)

608 604 Oh, no! Don't panic yet. It may come back.

Posted by: creeper at May 10, 2016 06:39 AM (ghfOx)

There are no leaves on it and the limbs are dry and brittle, But I will give it until next year to see if it will come back. I never would have expected this because the tree had grown to be fairly tall now. It is about 8 to 10 feet tall. It is the second one I have planted. The first one was killed by a hard freeze too.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:45 AM (vvmPQ)

609 Puddleglum, I stopped watching after a few episodes when hey force-fed the OMG Post Civil War Lesbian!! storyline.

I suppose that I should be grateful since I finally got that sock drawer rearranged.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 10, 2016 06:47 AM (c6ndQ)

610 Thanks Vic!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 10, 2016 06:48 AM (u82oZ)

611 'they force-fed'.

Is missing letters a sign of a problem keyboard or old age?

Because I plan on blaming the keyboard.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 10, 2016 06:48 AM (c6ndQ)

612 611 Is missing letters a sign of a problem keyboard or old age?

Because I plan on blaming the keyboard.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 10, 2016 06:48 AM (c6ndQ)

I blame my typos on hands and feet neuropathy.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:50 AM (vvmPQ)

613 Hell on Wheels was on AMC now on Netflix

Posted by: tmitsss at May 10, 2016 06:52 AM (sUvQQ)

614 re: White Silver Sands...what a blast from the past.

http://tinyurl.com/jhzghrb

Posted by: creeper at May 10, 2016 06:52 AM (ghfOx)

615 614
re: White Silver Sands...what a blast from the past.

http://tinyurl.com/jhzghrb

Posted by: creeper at May 10, 2016 06:52 AM (ghfOx)

That's it. I also have it on a CD by Brother Dave Gardner who sings it between his comedy sketches.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:54 AM (vvmPQ)

616 Hay, Vic...remember Don Cherry and "Band of Gold"? Did you get the John Doremus show on your wireless?

Posted by: creeper at May 10, 2016 06:55 AM (ghfOx)

617 I blame my typos on hands and feet neuropathy.

This is one of many things that make you awesome, Vic.

I only wish that I could type with my feet.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 10, 2016 06:56 AM (c6ndQ)

618 When I lived in Houston there was a fellow named Paul Berlin who did a radio show of forties and fifties music. They don't write 'em like that any more.

Posted by: creeper at May 10, 2016 06:57 AM (ghfOx)

619 609 Puddleglum, I stopped watching after a few episodes when hey force-fed the OMG Post Civil War Lesbian!! storyline.

Heh, it was fairly tame buy modern standards. They also didn't glorify the dyke. She was flawed like everybody else on the show. Again, its not the "GREATEST SHOW EVAH" but its fairly solid and has held my attention since it came on. My attention span is that of a fruit fly.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 10, 2016 07:01 AM (ZTzOY)

620 Was that a movie are a syndicated show?
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:37 AM (vvmPQ)

Show. Might be on Netflix.

Posted by: @votermom at May 10, 2016 07:01 AM (nbrY/)

621 I blame my typos on hands and feet neuropathy.

This is one of many things that make you awesome, Vic.

I only wish that I could type with my feet.

ISWYDT. Golf clap.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 10, 2016 07:01 AM (FxM6p)

622 616
Hay, Vic...remember Don Cherry and "Band of Gold"? Did you get the John Doremus show on your wireless?

Posted by: creeper at May 10, 2016 06:55 AM (ghfOx)

I remember it by someone else from much later; Freda Payne??? And no don't remember John Doremus. Our little podunct radio station had no syndicated radio shows in the 50s.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 07:02 AM (vvmPQ)

623 I only wish that I could type with my feet.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 10, 2016 06:56 AM (c6ndQ)

LOL

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 07:03 AM (vvmPQ)

624 William Schallert, an amazingly busy "everyman" character actor for nearly seven decades who had trouble on television with Tribbles, Dobie Gillis and those identical two-of-a-kind cousins played by Patty Duke, has died. He was 93.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hme3tdr

Posted by: Jean Luc Picard in the clutches of the Potty Parity Police at May 10, 2016 07:04 AM (PjWy4)

625 I've opposed Chief Justice Roy Moore on some of his positions in the past, but I fully support him in defying the feds on homosexual "marriage."

Fuck the federal government.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 10, 2016 07:05 AM (eHpnh)

626 I was a Girl Friday for a little thousand-watt station in the sixties. We ran the Doremus show for a couple of years because it was cheaper than paying a DJ.

Found a nice mashup of Johnny Rivers on YouTube. Groovin' on a Tuesday.

Posted by: creeper at May 10, 2016 07:06 AM (ghfOx)

627 624
William Schallert, an amazingly busy "everyman" character actor for
nearly seven decades who had trouble on television with Tribbles, Dobie
Gillis and those identical two-of-a-kind cousins played by Patty Duke,
has died. He was 93.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hme3tdr

Posted by: Jean Luc Picard in the clutches of the Potty Parity Police at May 10, 2016 07:04 AM (PjWy4)

We all used to watch Dobie Gillis religiously at our house. I didn't care that much for Patty Duke but did watch it occasionally.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 07:07 AM (vvmPQ)

628 626 Found a nice mashup of Johnny Rivers on YouTube. Groovin' on a Tuesday.

Posted by: creeper at May 10, 2016 07:06 AM (ghfOx)

I have his greatest hits CD.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 07:09 AM (vvmPQ)

629 William Schallert, an amazingly busy "everyman" character actor for nearly seven decades who had trouble on television with Tribbles, Dobie Gillis and those identical two-of-a-kind cousins played by Patty Duke, has died. He was 93.

IMDB has him listed in 243 separate appearances/shows.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 10, 2016 07:11 AM (FxM6p)

630 Gotta go do some chores. Wifey is up now. For you later arrivals VNN starts at #567

Will be back shortly.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 07:12 AM (vvmPQ)

631 Vic inadvertently hit the pause button for the blog when he gets up to leave.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 10, 2016 07:18 AM (FxM6p)

632 William Schallert actually outlived Patty Duke...

Posted by: Jean Luc Picard in the clutches of the Potty Parity Police at May 10, 2016 07:18 AM (PjWy4)

633 Wow the White House removed the video from the archives about Earnest saying he could not deny that no senior White House people lied about the Iran deal.

1984 here we come!

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 10, 2016 07:20 AM (iONHu)

634 "Wow the White House removed the video from the archives about Earnest
saying he could not deny that no senior White House people lied about
the Iran deal. "

What video?

Posted by: Ministry of Truth at May 10, 2016 07:24 AM (1BQGO)

635 "1984 here we come!"

We're already there. How is homo marriage different from 2+2+=5? It isn't.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 10, 2016 07:26 AM (eHpnh)

636 I think I've moved from fearing a civil war to hoping for one.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 10, 2016 07:27 AM (eHpnh)

637 >>>>What video?

The press conference video of Josh Earnest refusing to deny that Senior Administration officials lied about the Iran deal.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 10, 2016 07:28 AM (iONHu)

638 I think I've moved from fearing a civil war to hoping for one.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud

Welcome to the dark side.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 10, 2016 07:29 AM (FxM6p)

639 "I also have it on a CD by Brother Dave Gardner who sings it between his comedy sketches."-Vic

So do I. -If you love the South say, Glory!-

The South's Lenny Bruce.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at May 10, 2016 07:29 AM (j2xmV)

640 639 The South's Lenny Bruce.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at May 10, 2016 07:29 AM (j2xmV)

But his comedy was not obscene. They would have ran him out of the South back in the 50s if he cussed like Lenny Bruce.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 07:31 AM (vvmPQ)

641 I liked that slick river rock story about David and Goliath.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 07:32 AM (vvmPQ)

642 creeper at May 10, 2016 06:57 AM (ghfOx)

Paul Berlin is still spinnin' the wax. He has a show on KSEV 700AM every Saturday night from 6-8pm. That man produced acts going back to the 50s I think. He sure has a treasure trove of stories that he still riffs on as he plays his favorites.

Anybody know where Ronnie Renfro is?

Posted by: DanMan at May 10, 2016 07:33 AM (m/aXA)

643 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:00 AM (vvmPQ)
-----------------------------------------

That Russian spy was a hero. Good lord, what guts.

Posted by: MTF at May 10, 2016 07:39 AM (/m8T6)

644 642 Anybody know where Ronnie Renfro is?

Posted by: DanMan at May 10, 2016 07:33 AM (m/aXA)

He was doing a show on RFDTV back when I still got satellite. Don't know anymore.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 07:39 AM (vvmPQ)

645 No, he was not obscene. But he some things in his jokes that were 'on the edge' for the '50s-early 60's.

"Hey, Baby, let's blow this joint." "No man, pass it on to the waitress."

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at May 10, 2016 07:40 AM (j2xmV)

646 Morning Horde.

Puddlegum. If you're still around...

If you're serious about your golf trip to the Pinehurst area, email me. I can give you the ins and outs.

Golfman6062 with the g thing.

Posted by: Golfman at May 10, 2016 07:40 AM (Q2SLD)

647 643 That Russian spy was a hero. Good lord, what guts.

Posted by: MTF at May 10, 2016 07:39 AM (/m8T6)

Well being a statement from the savages one must put a grain of salt to that story. However, if true then she really did have some guts.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 07:40 AM (vvmPQ)

648 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 10, 2016 07:41 AM (ZQfW9)

649 After the Obamites are finally driven off through the gates of the WH and into the snow it's going to take a huge effort to figure out what was true about anything they said, ever.

What we really need is a free press trying to make a buck instead of ideological gold stars from their political masters.

Posted by: MTF at May 10, 2016 07:42 AM (/m8T6)

650 Wow the White House removed the video from the archives about Earnest saying he could not deny that no senior White House people lied about the Iran deal.

1984 here we come!

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 10, 2016 07:20 AM (iONHu)

And the MFM will gladly comply with sending it down the memory hole.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 10, 2016 07:42 AM (45oDG)

651 ISIS savages claim they have executed a female Russian spy who infiltrated their group.

http://fxn.ws/1OlfiX1

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 06:00 AM (vvmPQ)

I'm guessing Vlad's reaction will be completely different than say Prezzy Choom's hitting the golf course after an American was killed

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 10, 2016 07:43 AM (45oDG)

652 Some thug killed a deputy here last week by crashing into his car while being chased. The funeral was yesterday. Thousands of people lined the route for the procession. Very sad.

Martavius will get free room and board for many years. The deputy's family will get his canine partner.

Posted by: freaked at May 10, 2016 07:48 AM (BO/km)

653 Posted by: DanMan at May 10, 2016 07:33 AM (m/aXA)

Hope you see this. Thank you! Nice to know Berlin is still at it. Wish I could get him here in Iowa.

Posted by: creeper at May 10, 2016 07:53 AM (ghfOx)

654 Shoot. Looks like KSEV is all-talk radio now. Bummer.

Posted by: creeper at May 10, 2016 07:55 AM (ghfOx)

655 Wait! No! There they are...links to Berlin's programs and pictures. Boy, Paul Berlin must be as old as Methuselah.

Now to settle back and take a trip down memory lane. Thanks again, DanMan.

Posted by: creeper at May 10, 2016 07:58 AM (ghfOx)

656 here you go creeper...

http://ksevradio.com/listen/

Listening to Chris Salcedo right now.

Posted by: DanMan at May 10, 2016 07:58 AM (m/aXA)

657 da dump

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2016 07:59 AM (vvmPQ)

658 568 "Sorry this got so long."

Vic, don't apologize. We faithful followers of VNN are here specifically because of your take on things, the juicier the better.

We like a little raisins in our oatmeal.

Posted by: Kate58 at May 10, 2016 08:27 AM (oLZsm)

659 636
I think I've moved from fearing a civil war to hoping for one.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed

See my sig...somewhat self explanatory.

Posted by: Gmac- All politics in this country now is just dress rehearsal for civil war. at May 10, 2016 08:33 AM (4pjhs)

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