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Overnight Open Thread - Mother's Day Edition

Happy mother’s day! If you are a mom reading this, I hope your day was this good:


This day in history

Victory in Europe Day - 71 years ago.

On this day in 1945, both Great Britain and the United States celebrate Victory in Europe Day. Cities in both nations, as well as formerly occupied cities in Western Europe, put out flags and banners, rejoicing in the defeat of the Nazi war machine.

The eighth of May spelled the day when German troops throughout Europe finally laid down their arms: In Prague, Germans surrendered to their Soviet antagonists, after the latter had lost more than 8,000 soldiers, and the Germans considerably more; in Copenhagen and Oslo; at Karlshorst, near Berlin; in northern Latvia; on the Channel Island of Sark—the German surrender was realized in a final cease-fire. More surrender documents were signed in Berlin and in eastern Germany.

May 8 is also the birthday of David Attenborough, who just fought the internet. And won.

The UK's new polar research ship is to be named RRS Sir David Attenborough, despite the title "Boaty McBoatface" previously topping a public vote.

A website inviting name suggestions had attracted huge interest, with Boaty McBoatface the runaway favourite.

But Science Minister Jo Johnson said there were "more suitable" names.

Attenborough narrates the BBC’s “Africa,” which contains one of the funniest scenes I’ve ever seen in a nature documentary. To be fair, this isn't a particularly high bar since such documentaries usually feature the real 'circle of life' stuff that Disney keeps out of its movies:


“Oh…shiiiiiii…"

In 1988, May 8 took away writer Robert Heinlein. It's time to re-read “Starship Troopers” and put another pin in your Paul Verhoeven voodoo doll for turning a complex, interesting book into a stupid cartoon of a movie.

INTERMISSON!

These dogs have taken ‘man’s best friend’ to a new level.

The ten best cooking shows on Netflix. Solid list. Includes a semi-new series produced by Netflix:

Chef’s Table is a show produced in-house by Netflix focusing on one famous chef per show. This is really the show for you if you’re obsessed with chefs and fine dining and the sort of mystique of the restaurant industry.

Number one is obvious. “Parts Unknown” is not just the best show on the list, but Anthony Bourdain may be the best reporter working for CNN.

Memorial Day is coming. Here are some grilling guides and recipes to help you master cooking with fire. If smoking is more your style, let Meathead be your guide.

New York Mets pitcher Bartolo Colon hit his first career home run last night, and I think his teammates were happier than he was. You can already remember the moment with a baseball card.

Some of you may want to reconsider that funeral trip to China. Their government has banned funeral strippers:

This week, China's Ministry of Culture told people to stop hiring strippers and vowed to work with police to stamp out the practice.

"This type of illegal operation disrupts order of the cultural market in the countryside and corrupts social morals and manners," the ministry said in a statement.

Commies, man. They just want to suck the joy out of everything.

Goodnight, folks. Remember: if you can't think of anything nice to say...at least try to be creative with your insults. We've got standards to uphold.

Tonight’s ONT brought to you by the trailer for "Rogue One" in Lego:

Posted by: Slublog at 09:30 PM




Comments

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1 Fist

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 08, 2016 09:24 PM (dBmVV)

2 of

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 08, 2016 09:24 PM (dBmVV)

3 Fury

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 08, 2016 09:25 PM (dBmVV)

4 early-ish!

Posted by: tbodie at May 08, 2016 09:25 PM (GOucM)

5 Eat

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 08, 2016 09:25 PM (dBmVV)

6 Me

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 08, 2016 09:25 PM (dBmVV)

7 When VE day was going on you gotta figure the Japanese were like...ruh roh.

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2016 09:26 PM (qUNWi)

8 Weird that VE day and mothers day are the same freakin day....amirite?

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2016 09:27 PM (qUNWi)

9 Oh....BTW....I bought my mother a boat.

What'd y'all get?

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2016 09:30 PM (qUNWi)

10 Wait, what?!?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 09:32 PM (EzgxV)

11 echo...echo....echo....

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2016 09:32 PM (qUNWi)

12 "Oh....BTW....I bought my mother a boat.

What'd y'all get?
"
-Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2016 09:30 PM (qUNWi)

Flowers, you braggart.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 09:33 PM (OQ9R7)

13 9 Oh....BTW....I bought my mother a boat.
Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2016 09:30 PM (qUNWi)


Genuine Lego(R) boat, or one of those knockoffs?

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 09:33 PM (iMxBJ)

14 A really lousy day and even the ONT is impatient to get it over with.

Posted by: Epobirs at May 08, 2016 09:33 PM (IdCqF)

15 My mother wouldn't get on a boat if it had the "Queen" monicker in front of it.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 09:34 PM (OQ9R7)

16 Wait, what?!?

Yup ....you missed it. She's crying right now.

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2016 09:34 PM (qUNWi)

17
I want to carry on about Hillary, but I'll wait a decent interval.

Posted by: iforgot at May 08, 2016 09:34 PM (5o5ek)

18 I got a jury summons.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 08, 2016 09:34 PM (rlfds)

19 "I got a jury summons."
-Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 08, 2016 09:34 PM (rlfds)

Of course you did. The hell?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 09:36 PM (OQ9R7)

20 I got a jury summons.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 08, 2016 09:34 PM (rlfds)

*****

What did you get for them?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 08, 2016 09:36 PM (cGi/6)

21 16 Wait, what?!?

Yup ....you missed it. She's crying right now.

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2016 09:34 PM (qUNWi)



No, I actually made a Mother's Day call.....in which, I principally said, "Wait, what?!?"

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 09:36 PM (EzgxV)

22 The boat may or may not have had gravy in it.

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2016 09:36 PM (qUNWi)

23 14 A really lousy day and even the ONT is impatient to get it over with.

Posted by: Epobirs at May 08, 2016 09:33 PM (IdCqF)



What happened?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 09:37 PM (EzgxV)

24 If it was unconnected with your daughters, it's just life.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 09:38 PM (EzgxV)

25 "The boat may or may not have had gravy in it."
-Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2016 09:36 PM (qUNWi)

^^This Fuckin' Guy^^

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 09:39 PM (OQ9R7)

26
The boat may or may not have had gravy in it.
Posted by: eleven


Gravy McGravyboat

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 08, 2016 09:39 PM (k4M/B)

27 Quality rug-pull, Cap'n Comedy ...lol.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 09:40 PM (OQ9R7)

28 That didn't sound like Star Wars to me.

Who were those people?

Posted by: Haclav Yosefski at May 08, 2016 09:40 PM (VFgJF)

29 hi all



New York Mets pitcher Bartolo Colon hit his first career home run last night, and I think his teammates were happier than he was. You can already remember the moment with a baseball card.



holy cow, I thought he was going to collapse just huffing and puffing around the bases

Posted by: chemjeff - Fapplebee's Libertarian at May 08, 2016 09:40 PM (+4mdw)

30 And thanks for the ONT, Slublog.

Posted by: tbodie at May 08, 2016 09:41 PM (GOucM)

31 brought to you by the trailer for "Rogue One" in Lego:

I prefer 'Legos' or 'Lego's' because it makes the Oh-So-Superior set lose it.

Posted by: t-bird at May 08, 2016 09:41 PM (J3phO)

32 I got a jury summons.
Posted by: SMFH
--------------------------

Take a book.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at May 08, 2016 09:41 PM (mxCgt)

33 "holy cow, I thought he was going to collapse just huffing and puffing around the bases."
-Posted by: chemjeff - Fapplebee's Libertarian at May 08, 2016 09:40 PM (+4mdw)

Cartoon Icon Goes Deep

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 09:42 PM (OQ9R7)

34 Squirrel : "This nut is rancid."

Posted by: Haclav Yosefski at May 08, 2016 09:43 PM (VFgJF)

35 I got a jury summons.
Posted by: SMFH
--------------

Hang 'em.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at May 08, 2016 09:43 PM (mxCgt)

36 *Time-Out*

Last Man on Earth is on.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 09:45 PM (OQ9R7)

37 Oh....BTW....I bought my mother a boat.>>>

Is that like an ice flow?

Posted by: Eskimo at May 08, 2016 09:45 PM (zLLv8)

38 34 Squirrel : "This nut is rancid."
Posted by: Haclav Yosefski at May 08, 2016 09:43 PM (VFgJF)


Well, it doesn't get a lot of ventilation. That's the good one, though. You don't want to even approach the other one.

Posted by: Michael Moore at May 08, 2016 09:45 PM (iMxBJ)

39 Speaking of commies sucking the fun out of every thing. Ya ever notice that there's a very low tolerance for any sort of hedonism or moral shenanigans in commie countries? Cuba, China and Venezuela don't seem to give a damn about sexual or gender identity, liberalized drug policies or that sort of thing. It's almost like they know something. Hmmmm....

Posted by: Commissar M at May 08, 2016 09:45 PM (vcIHi)

40 Are these the Ewoks you are looking for???

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/selection-du-weekend-191-34.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2016 09:46 PM (fU0YZ)

41 Hush now baby, baby, don't you cry
Mama's gonna make all your nightmares come true
Mama's gonna put all her fears into you
Mama's gonna keep you right here under her wing
She won't let you fly, but she might let you sing

Posted by: Insomniac at May 08, 2016 09:46 PM (0mRoj)

42 18 I got a jury summons.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 08, 2016 09:34 PM (rlfds)


Remind your fellow jurors that mishandling classified information is a crime, even if your intentions in setting up your own email server were innocent.

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 09:46 PM (iMxBJ)

43 18 I got a jury summons.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 08, 2016 09:34 PM (rlfds)




I find that, "if he's a mick, he's probably guilty" tends to shorten the time you have to sit around.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 09:47 PM (EzgxV)

44 Not sure if it is still 'VE Day'.

In 1995 Clinton changed 'VJ Day' to 'End of the War in the Pacific Day'.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 08, 2016 09:47 PM (T78UI)

45 Are these the Ewoks you are looking for???

Ok, now I'm in favor of remakes.

Posted by: t-bird at May 08, 2016 09:47 PM (J3phO)

46
In 1995 Clinton changed 'VJ Day' to 'End of the War in the Pacific Day'.
Posted by: Burnt Toast


When you're Bill Clinton, every day is VJ day.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 08, 2016 09:48 PM (k4M/B)

47 Just say "If they were charged they must be guilty."

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2016 09:49 PM (qUNWi)

48
I got a jury summons.

Posted by: SMFH

--------------------------



Take a book.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at May 08, 2016 09:41 PM (mxCgt)



Suggest a brisk read, something War and Peace or Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. If you get selected you'll also have something to read during the trial.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 08, 2016 09:50 PM (T78UI)

49 Good thing I'm a full-time student and can be exempted.

The possibility of being sequestered would put a serious dent in my GPA.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 08, 2016 09:50 PM (rlfds)

50 I find that, "if he's a mick, he's probably guilty" tends to shorten the time you have to sit around.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 09:47 PM (EzgxV)

*****

The last time we were surveyed, they asked about ownership in Insurance companies. So, I listed 6 biggies because via Mutuals I probably do. Home before lunch day one.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 08, 2016 09:51 PM (cGi/6)

51 The opening Mother's Day hide and seek thing made me laugh. My sister's kids are totally spoiled, obnoxious little brats. I used to play hide and seek with them where they had to hide and I had to seek. I used to do the countdown and then not look for them so they would have to stay hidden and be forced to be quiet. A few of them fell asleep in their hiding places waiting for me to find them. They never understood what I was doing and think to this day that I suck at hide and seek.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 08, 2016 09:51 PM (5QyYN)

52 SMFH, could always say - "I want to be a writer and this will be a great experience."

See what happens.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2016 09:51 PM (fU0YZ)

53 t-bird now wants to 'interrogate' those Ewoks....

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2016 09:52 PM (fU0YZ)

54 My line is ask fellow jurors if they think the death penalty should be an available option for far more crimes than currently allowed.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 08, 2016 09:53 PM (wYnyS)

55 Sooo.... Star Whore Rouge One...

another F'n Kick Ass Warrior Disney Princess...

/facepalm

Posted by: Don Quixote at May 08, 2016 09:53 PM (qf6WZ)

56 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 08, 2016 09:53 PM (KCxzN)

57 I was in horribly twisted back pain all day so crapped all over my mom's and wife's mother's day

no dinner no taking the kid out no nothing. i did make a call that went to voicemail.

sigh

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 08, 2016 09:54 PM (Cq0oW)

58 eleven probably spent all day coming up with the gravy boat joke for the ONT.

It was cute.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 08, 2016 09:54 PM (5QyYN)

59 How was the tour of the fjords Alton Jackson?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2016 09:54 PM (fU0YZ)

60 I got a rock.

Posted by: Charlie Brown's mom at May 08, 2016 09:55 PM (4GoyN)

61 Sorry, Bigby. You can always reschedule Mother's Day for your mom and wife for next Sunday when you feel better.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 08, 2016 09:55 PM (5QyYN)

62 ain't the same though

its all right they understood

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 08, 2016 09:56 PM (Cq0oW)

63 Just say "well I'm sure he identifies as innocent, isn't that good enough?"

Posted by: chemjeff - Fapplebee's Libertarian at May 08, 2016 09:56 PM (+4mdw)

64 Bigby, so sorry to hear about your back pain

Yeah I"m sure you can make it up to them when you are feeling better

Posted by: chemjeff - Fapplebee's Libertarian at May 08, 2016 09:57 PM (+4mdw)

65 And ChemJeff's steak self-identifies as ... ?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2016 09:57 PM (fU0YZ)

66 51 The opening Mother's Day hide and seek thing made me laugh. My sister's kids are totally spoiled, obnoxious little brats. I used to play hide and seek with them where they had to hide and I had to seek. I used to do the countdown and then not look for them so they would have to stay hidden and be forced to be quiet. A few of them fell asleep in their hiding places waiting for me to find them. They never understood what I was doing and think to this day that I suck at hide and seek.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 08, 2016 09:51 PM (5QyYN)




Similar to how the youngest godkid thought I sucked at "Animal Guessing Game" because I always guessed, "It's a duck!" Of course, I later found that I had probably remembered it from watching this show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r9OU7Dxt9Y

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 09:57 PM (EzgxV)

67 Oh yeah, jury duty is gonna be interesting in this brave new world of "no malicious intent".

I've been called up for jury duty three times in ten years. Twice for trial juries and once for grand jury. I served the first time but got out of the other two. Honestly, it's getting a bit old at this point and about 90% of it is drug related.

Posted by: Commissar M at May 08, 2016 09:59 PM (vcIHi)

68 The man cooked us up some incredible rib eyes with loaded baked potatos salad and cheesecake. Its now about bedtime lol

Posted by: FCF at May 08, 2016 09:59 PM (kejii)

69 G'Night, FCF!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 10:00 PM (OQ9R7)

70 65
And ChemJeff's steak self-identifies as ... ?


Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2016 09:57 PM (fU0YZ)


Charcoal, duh

Posted by: chemjeff - Fapplebee's Libertarian at May 08, 2016 10:01 PM (+4mdw)

71 Sluey McSluface thinks the Starship Trooper movies do not do the books Justice? They are some of the few books-to-movies that are entirely true to the spirit of the book.

Of course there was not enough cgi in the world when the movies were made to begin to capture Heinlien's story of super-equipped soldiers leaping football fields at a time while firing off mini-nukes in quick succession but come on. The critical part remained the basis for everything: the thesis that only those who are willing to fight for the republic are qualified to be represented in its governance.

Idiot leftist once tried to tell me that Heinlein meant this as dystopian fiction, that he was actually condemning this arrangement as fascist. I told him it was about time he stopped parroting propaganda and actually read the book. The movie will also do.

The troopers are unalloyed heroes. There is not a hint of leftist irony anywhere, and the pacifist parents are treated as selfish cowards, enjoying the protection of trooper action without any reproach by the unassuming citizen-troopers. Non-citizens can do with their own lives whatever they want. They just don't get any say in governance because they are not worthy.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at May 08, 2016 10:01 PM (v+/21)

72 about the food show list

chopped is crap. some of the rest are marginal. great british bake off is fascinating and cool but avoid the American remake.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 08, 2016 10:01 PM (Cq0oW)

73 Hey everybody.

Watched Hitchcock's classic 1944 flick "Lifeboat" last night with family. We all thought it was okay but that parts were a little confusing. I probably need to watch it again.

I know it was the first flick that started to make Hitch really famous, at least as far as I know.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 08, 2016 10:02 PM (ntObR)

74 Good evening, Horde! Had to be at the station for a few hours while some severe weather threatened us then rolled past us with no harm done.

After my last report, I put the music back on. About 90 seconds after that, I get this call...

ME: Hello, radio station!
CALLER: That song you're playing...that's called Teenage Wasteland, right?
ME: No, that's Baba O'Reilly.
CALLER: No, it isn't. That's not in the song.
ME: No, it's not in the lyric. But it is the title.
CALLER: Thanks a lot, #@$^^@@! You just cost me 10 bucks!
(hangs up)

DISCLAIMER: DJ not responsible for any stupid bets you make.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 08, 2016 10:03 PM (rJUlF)

75 Booze makes me tired. And after I heard what I heard tonight, I drank a bunch of it.

A couple-a beers later, I'm about ready to hit it.

*I'll hang-up and listen*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 10:04 PM (OQ9R7)

76 which, BTW. seeing the difference between the British and American shows really shows how awful we are at baking, collectively as a culture.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 08, 2016 10:04 PM (Cq0oW)

77 And now for some Star Wars music, your mileage will vary

https://youtu.be/nohQReM7BpI

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2016 10:05 PM (fU0YZ)

78 Bartolo Colon hit his first career home run last night, and I think his teammates were happier than he was.

NYDN headline: Colon gets the runs

Posted by: angela urkel at May 08, 2016 10:05 PM (4m41+)

79 Evening 'rons.

It's been a comfortable weekend. Mr D bought me three dozen pastel roses "just because". I'm not a mom, so no big deal today. Talked to my mama Friday and sent her a text today. I was supposed to pick dinner but it was one of those days where I can't make a choice as to food, so ended up with three desserts and some sushi I didn't really even want. The desserts were great.

I hope you all had a wonderful day.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at May 08, 2016 10:06 PM (+eR2D)

80 74 Good evening, Horde! Had to be at the station for a few hours while some severe weather threatened us then rolled past us with no harm done.

After my last report, I put the music back on. About 90 seconds after that, I get this call...

ME: Hello, radio station!
CALLER: That song you're playing...that's called Teenage Wasteland, right?
ME: No, that's Baba O'Reilly.
CALLER: No, it isn't. That's not in the song.
ME: No, it's not in the lyric. But it is the title.
CALLER: Thanks a lot, #@$^^@@! You just cost me 10 bucks!
(hangs up)

DISCLAIMER: DJ not responsible for any stupid bets you make.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 08, 2016 10:03 PM (rJUlF)




HAHAHAHAHaHaHahahahaha!!!! Collecting gems like that is merely one of the benefits of working in radio.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 10:06 PM (EzgxV)

81 67 I've been called up for jury duty three times in ten years. Twice for trial juries and once for grand jury. I served the first time but got out of the other two. Honestly, it's getting a bit old at this point and about 90% of it is drug related.
Posted by: Commissar M at May 08, 2016 09:59 PM (vcIHi)


Yup. At least I know what black tar heroin looks like now (and it seems to smell vaguely of vinegar).

Also I know that defense attorneys will happily hang out and make fun of their clients with the jury afterwards. The big contentious issue among the lawyers at the drug trial I was on was whether to admit one particular photograph. It got admitted, we passed it around. It depicted the defendant in a group of people. He was in drag. Not one of us noticed that at the time. We just thought it was an ugly chick. His defense attorney thought it was hilarious, though.

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 10:06 PM (iMxBJ)

82 *serves Captain Whitebread a beer*

Stupid should be painful

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2016 10:07 PM (fU0YZ)

83 32 I got a jury summons.
Posted by: SMFH
--------------------------
Take a book.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at May 08, 2016 09:41 PM (

Preferably something by Mark Levin. Leave the jacket on. Trust me, it pisses lottsa people off.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 08, 2016 10:08 PM (BYJ2T)

84 Early ONT

Woot woot ONT

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 08, 2016 10:09 PM (voOPb)

85 36 Last Man on Earth is on.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 09:45

Pffttt, John Carter is on. Taylor Kitsch. Nom nom nom

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 08, 2016 10:10 PM (BYJ2T)

86 always figured if the dj is playing something like that he's taking a break

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 08, 2016 10:10 PM (Cq0oW)

87 And it's raining....again.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at May 08, 2016 10:10 PM (+eR2D)

88 18 I got a jury summons.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 08, 2016 09:34 PM (rlfds)



Just be sure to give the guilty sonofabitch a fair trial before ya hang 'im.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 08, 2016 10:11 PM (McRlu)

89 HAHAHAHAHaHaHahahahaha!!!! Collecting gems like that is merely one of the benefits of working in radio.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 10:06 PM (EzgxV)

Oh, let me tell you one from back in the 80s when someone called our office number and got the answering machine:

"Hey! I've been calling to request a song, but no one is answering the phone! Call me back!"

He didn't leave his number, of course...

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 08, 2016 10:12 PM (rJUlF)

90 got a jury summons.
Posted by: SMFH
--------------


Of course he/she is guilty.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 08, 2016 10:12 PM (voOPb)

91 Thanks for the advice y'all, but there's no ways I'm serving on some jury and miss classes.

Not gonna happen.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 08, 2016 10:12 PM (rlfds)

92 cthulhu, that clip was hilarious. I didn't get it at first and was befuddled. I laughed when he said he named his pigeon Donald and at the end when we got to see the greyhound. Thanks for that.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 08, 2016 10:12 PM (5QyYN)

93 82 *serves Captain Whitebread a beer*

Stupid should be painful
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2016 10:07 PM (fU0YZ)

It is, but usually, only for the person on the recieving end.

And thanks for the beer.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 08, 2016 10:13 PM (rJUlF)

94 91 Thanks for the advice y'all, but there's no ways I'm serving on some jury and miss classes.
Not gonna happen.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 08, 2016 10:12 PM (rlfds)


Then the book you should bring is "Jury Nullification For Dummies." If that doesn't exist, it should.

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 10:13 PM (iMxBJ)

95 Of course he/she is guilty.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian


Therein lies a tale ...

Posted by: Adriane the Once and Future Jurist ... at May 08, 2016 10:14 PM (AoK0a)

96 "Pffttt, John Carter is on. Taylor Kitsch. Nom nom nom."
-Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 08, 2016 10:10 PM (BYJ2T)-

No speak-a that language.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 10:15 PM (OQ9R7)

97 another good food show is Street Food Around the World

its a Nat Geo thing

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 08, 2016 10:15 PM (Cq0oW)

98 86 always figured if the dj is playing something like that he's taking a break
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 08, 2016 10:10 PM (Cq0oW)

After a while, you learn how to get your business done quickly.

When I started, though, songs were longer on average. I don't know what the DJs did when the songs were three minutes or less.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 08, 2016 10:16 PM (rJUlF)

99 96 No speak-a that language.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 10:15 PM (OQ9R7)

Oh I bet you speak it when it's a rack you find attractive.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 08, 2016 10:17 PM (BYJ2T)

100 Here is the "News of the Week" compilation of the news.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=11716

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 08, 2016 10:17 PM (vBeA5)

101 axl rose, ac/dc. worst cover band ever. just awful. they should have walked away.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 08, 2016 10:17 PM (ucDmr)

102 >>>> after I heard what I heard tonight, I drank a bunch of it.
-----
What did you hear tonight that lead you to the booze? It wasn't the Trump, was it?

Posted by: L, Elle at May 08, 2016 10:17 PM (5QyYN)

103 Slapweasel was probably going "dejah thoris? yes I did!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2016 10:18 PM (fU0YZ)

104 From the What the Actual Fuck Department:

http://tinyurl.com/Axl-Fronts-ACDC-Shoot-2-Thrill


The Rock Gods weep.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 08, 2016 10:18 PM (CS7jF)

105 "What did you hear tonight that lead you to the booze? It wasn't the Trump, was it?"
-Posted by: L, Elle at May 08, 2016 10:17 PM (5QyYN)

Nope. It was a second date that I should have never gone on.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 10:19 PM (OQ9R7)

106 Confession, I don't like Starship Troopers. The story is OK, but the political ideas are silly and wouldn't work in real life.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 08, 2016 10:19 PM (fC9RO)

107 Okay I am searching for a hotel.
What is your best hotel searching website?
Travelocity? Expedia? Hotels.com? Other?

Posted by: chemjeff - Fapplebee's Libertarian at May 08, 2016 10:20 PM (+4mdw)

108 Slapweasel

We want details. It will lead to a new AoSHQ meme, for sur.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 08, 2016 10:20 PM (u82oZ)

109

El Chapo has been moved to the prison in Juarez, right across the border from El Paso, prolly THE most corrupt prison in Mexico, and is basically run by the cartel

Posted by: ThunderB at May 08, 2016 10:20 PM (zOTsN)

110 Slap, condolences on the crappy second date

but, look on the bright side, at least you got a second date

Posted by: chemjeff - Fapplebee's Libertarian at May 08, 2016 10:20 PM (+4mdw)

111 Alex!!!!! How are you? You chose a school?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 08, 2016 10:20 PM (BYJ2T)

112 ChemJeff, you should ask how close is the nearest fire station

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2016 10:21 PM (fU0YZ)

113 104: Sharkman, should have pushed the wheelchair off the front of the stage. Jim Bruer would have been better.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 08, 2016 10:21 PM (ucDmr)

114 Yogi Berra once said, "If you don't strip at other folk's funerals, they won't strip at yours"...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 10:21 PM (kP16F)

115 Insomniac at May 08, 2016 09:46 PM (0mRoj)

If you need help building a wall, check Craig's List under masons ...

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic ... at May 08, 2016 10:22 PM (AoK0a)

116 not that it comes up or anything but was curious about whether halal meat is food sacrificed to idols.

it sort of is. so now i can be a dick about that at some future point i guess.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 08, 2016 10:22 PM (Cq0oW)

117 Bebe! Right now I'm fighting a migraine, so life kind of sucks.

Haven't chosen yet. I'm going to call the graduate adviser at Cal Lutheran next week and ask about work opportunities and such. I've got a couple more weeks until I have to make a decision.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 08, 2016 10:22 PM (fC9RO)

118 Oh c'mon Anna, Chemmie is gonna just order room service not cook in his room.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 08, 2016 10:22 PM (BYJ2T)

119 >>>> axl rose, ac/dc. worst cover band ever. just awful. they should have walked away.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 08, 2016 10:17 PM
----
Yeah, I'm purposely staying away and not listening to that combination. I can't imagine how that could possibly work with Axl unable to hit high notes anymore. I love both those bands and listening to that mix would just ruin both of the bands forever for me.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 08, 2016 10:22 PM (5QyYN)

120 41 Hush now baby, baby, don't you cry
Mama's gonna make all your nightmares come true
Mama's gonna put all her fears into you
Mama's gonna keep you right here under her wing
She won't let you fly, but she might let you sing
Posted by: Insomniac



Roger's mom hated Jews too?

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 08, 2016 10:23 PM (crrLc)

121 Nope. It was a second date that I should have never gone on.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 10:19 PM (OQ9R7)

Aw man sorry to hear that. At least you got a date, which is more than I can say, so just go get another

Posted by: Blano at May 08, 2016 10:23 PM (sdPF/)

122 Travelocity? Expedia? Hotels.com? Other?

===

pick one. they will all spam you.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 08, 2016 10:23 PM (Cq0oW)

123 91 Thanks for the advice y'all, but there's no ways I'm serving on some jury and miss classes.

Not gonna happen.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 08, 2016 10:12 PM (rlfds)



Well, wear an old army fatigue blouse with lots of the less-than-subtle "secret squirrel" macho patches they sell at the gun shows, and be sure to wear an NRA hat. Someone upthread mentioned carrying a Mark Levin book, which was also good advice.

Maybe singing some Ted Nugent tunes kinda under your breath would cinch the deal?


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 08, 2016 10:23 PM (McRlu)

124 Insomniac, Best Buy has copies of The Wall CD on sale right now.

I wanted to get one, but I do *not* want to send any money to asshole Roger Waters.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 08, 2016 10:24 PM (ntObR)

125 Saw the Captain America Civil War movie today. Kid and I both liked it. The technical accomplishment of making a movie with a dozen main characters (including two new ones) without confusing the audience is impressive all by itself.

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 08, 2016 10:24 PM (Kdx3B)

126 107 Okay I am searching for a hotel.
What is your best hotel searching website?
Travelocity? Expedia? Hotels.com? Other?
Posted by: chemjeff - Fapplebee's Libertarian at May 08, 2016 10:20 PM (+4mdw)


I often use Travelocity, but I always check tripadvisor.com for reviews. That saved me from a business trip to a hotel that is surrounded by barbed wire and used as a halfway house for people transitioning from prison to public life.

Some people swear by kayak.com. If I'm remembering correctly, it checks a bunch of other sites. Maybe good for making sure you've got the best rate. Also, once you've zeroed in on a hotel, it can't hurt to check the hotel's site. Sometimes they offer specials, or otherwise try to capture the money they'd otherwise have to pay travel sites. More room choices, for example.

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 10:25 PM (iMxBJ)

127 Starship Troopers movies were crap.

90210 in Space


Posted by: blaster at May 08, 2016 10:25 PM (2Ocf1)

128 fighting a migraine, so life kind of sucks.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 08, 2016 10:22 PM (fC9RO)

Ugh. I feel your pain. Try my remedy: 1000mg aspirin washed down with a Coke.

Your current employer isn't interested in keeping you while you go to grad school?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 08, 2016 10:25 PM (BYJ2T)

129 Sluey McSluface thinks the Starship Trooper movies do not do the books Justice? They are some of the few books-to-movies that are entirely true to the spirit of the book.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at May 08, 2016 10:01 PM (v+/21)


IIRC, they were already writing the movie without knowledge of the book, when someone told them about the novel because it also had space troopers fighting bugs. They bought the right to the book just to grab the name.

And no, the movie isn't like the book at atll.

Posted by: The Starship Hat at May 08, 2016 10:25 PM (vBeA5)

130 I once heard a college radio station begging for food on the air.

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 08, 2016 10:26 PM (Kdx3B)

131 124 Insomniac, Best Buy has copies of The Wall CD on sale right now.

I wanted to get one, but I do *not* want to send any money to asshole Roger Waters.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 08, 2016 10:24 PM (ntObR)

Yeah, I wouldn't want to do that either.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 08, 2016 10:27 PM (0mRoj)

132 I got jury summons about 5 years ago. I put down that I was the primary care provider for a child under some age. Haven't received any since. I guess they wait until the kids hit that age.
Besides, I think that the death penalty is appropriate for all crimes, even civil ones.
Actually, I feel it's my duty to serve on a jury. The alternative is some libtard serving so I try to do the right thing.

Posted by: lindafell de spair at May 08, 2016 10:27 PM (xVgrA)

133 Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at May 08, 2016 10:23 PM (McRlu)

---

Or,

I could just check the "is a person enrolled and in actual attendance at an institution of higher education" box and mail it back in.

*Voila*

Only the cost of an envelope and a stamp.

Much cheaper than dressing up as a wannabe GI Jane.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 08, 2016 10:27 PM (rlfds)

134 Alec Rawls at May 08, 2016 10:01 PM (v+/21)


You watched the movie from the point of view of the heroes, like most of us did.

The problem with the movies is that they dressed the troopers and their officers like Nazis and made the thing seem like a giant, albeit bloody, joke. Which to the great unwashed translates as:

Only Soldiers Get to Vote = Nazis.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 08, 2016 10:27 PM (CS7jF)

135 There is always the Sunrise 1988 OVA series based on Starship Troopers.

https://youtu.be/BfbBcrGetVg

Yes, that is the original opening song. In the credits, the Western person who wrote them is given credit. Thankfully I've forgotten their name.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2016 10:27 PM (fU0YZ)

136 Sad face, slapweasel. At least you found out early before you let your feelings get involved and all that stuff.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 08, 2016 10:28 PM (5QyYN)

137 Ugh. I feel your pain. Try my remedy: 1000mg aspirin washed down with a Coke.



Your current employer isn't interested in keeping you while you go to grad school?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 08, 2016 10:25 PM (BYJ2T)


The coke is en route, and I have the asprin on standby.

Current Employer doesn't seem to have much available in San Diego for me. It's all Navy contracts out there. I've applied for a couple of low-level positions with the company, but so far no bites.

I just signed up for an online Data Analysis course through Coursera in order to hopefully make myself more marketable

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 08, 2016 10:28 PM (fC9RO)

138 Robert Heinlein has not been well-treated by Hollywood. Puppet Masters was kind of cheesy, Starship Troopers was all about Verhoeven's politics, and even Destination Moon almost had musical numbers.

Is it just that his books don't film well? Or is this conscious political sabotage?

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 08, 2016 10:28 PM (Kdx3B)

139 119: ten seconds was all it took for me. just awful. bar bands around here do it better. axl sucks. always has.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 08, 2016 10:29 PM (ucDmr)

140 Oh right, there is its - Linda Hendrick

Now where is the Neuralizer?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2016 10:29 PM (fU0YZ)

141 She was a nice lady. She compared something bad to the Browns and I laughed. I no longer watch Cleveland Browns games.

She then compared people who watched sports to lunatics.

I tried to diffuse the situation by telling her that I thought about people who watched "Entertainment Tonight", (Hollywood bullshit), like that at times, but I knew that wasn't true. It was an escape.

Nerves hit.

The both of us.

Incompatible.

I paid for my half, she paid for hers.

Ties severed, for the better.

If I would have told her that I played Fantasy Baseball? (One Team, One League?)

She would have shit all over that and she made it clear that "people like me" were time-wasting losers.

She didn't say that, but I got the picture clearly.

She was hot. She was a self-made woman with enough money to buy her own home, car and land.

I wanted it to work, but...

...Fuck That.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 10:30 PM (OQ9R7)

142
Where do fleas really, really come from? I used to feed 2 feral cats 3 times a week and now my cousins' precious Miniature Yorkies and their 2 Himalayans have fleas and they're blaming me. The ferals used to bump my hands a little but they'd never let me deliberately touch them.

Yeah, their Yorkies go outside every now and then, to a dog park or on shopping trips. They ride in a little stroller and wear little Hawaiian shirts and tutus and such.

Posted by: iforgot at May 08, 2016 10:30 PM (5o5ek)

143 138 Is it just that his books don't film well? Or is this conscious political sabotage?
Posted by: Trimegistus at May 08, 2016 10:28 PM (Kdx3B)


Maybe just that his politics are so far off of people's radar these days that people just can't get their brains around it. We live in a very un-philosophical age, and the last 7 1/3 years have not helped. We've reached a point where someone can run for President as an open Socialist, and attract a lot of enthusiasm from people who could not hold an intelligent conversation about what that means if their lives depended on it.

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 10:31 PM (iMxBJ)

144 El Chapo has been moved to the prison in Juarez, right across the border from El Paso, prolly THE most corrupt prison in Mexico, and is basically run by the cartel

Posted by: ThunderB at May 08, 2016 10:20 PM (zOTsN)


The real El Chapo has never been captured, though a couple of his doubles have.


I went to see Hardcore Henry today. Loved it. Ridiculous plot, at least 200 corpses, 12 different characters played by Shartlo Copley, who I think is hilarious, and I gave not a tiny shit that it was all GoPro Shaky Cam. That's what you'd have seen if you were in that guy's head. I was laughing throughout and enjoyed it thoroughly for just what it was. Mindless fun.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 08, 2016 10:31 PM (CS7jF)

145 Or,

I could just check the "is a person enrolled and in actual attendance at an institution of higher education" box and mail it back in.

*Voila*

Only the cost of an envelope and a stamp.

Much cheaper than dressing up as a wannabe GI Jane.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 08, 2016 10:27 PM (rlfds)




You're certainly correct, with the exception of getting to enjoy the squirming reactions of the court staff and fellow prospective jurors.

But yeah, I'd go with your option, too. Beats wasting most of a day among the disaffected.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 08, 2016 10:32 PM (McRlu)

146 Wow Alex, I'd have thought they would want to keep you inhouse somehow, especially when they can benefit from your additional education without paying for it.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 08, 2016 10:32 PM (BYJ2T)

147 141: Slap! You go out with Hillary?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 08, 2016 10:32 PM (ucDmr)

148 Slapweasel, sorry it did not go well.

Do what I did before I married.

Place both hands palm up.
Rotate the hands until the thumbs are up.
Clench a fist in both hands.
Quickly move the hands to behind your ears, while yelling "Next."

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 08, 2016 10:32 PM (u82oZ)

149 127 Starship Troopers movies were crap.

90210 in Space


Posted by: blaster at May 08, 2016 10:25 PM (2Ocf1)


Melrose Space.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at May 08, 2016 10:33 PM (OR5cC)

150 "You're certainly correct, with the exception of getting to enjoy the squirming reactions of the court staff and fellow prospective jurors."

---

Yeah, that would have been fun...

*sigh*

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 08, 2016 10:33 PM (rlfds)

151 So on Friday, for the second time in two months, and after an expensive repair, I was left in pouring rain waiting hours for a tow truck. Last time was on the side of a freeway. This time was even better because the Explorer died when second in line on an off ramp to pull onto the street, so I was blocking traffic all of this time. It's remarkable how many idiots will pull up close behind a car with its emergency lights flashing and then act surprised when it doesn't move as the light changes.

The fault each time, supposedly is the Crank Position Sensor, or CPS as it is known to those who work on Ford trucks a lot . My search may have produced confirmation bias but this item getting wet is apparently a chronic problem, to the extent it is widely advised to have spares on hand if you work on the vehicle yourself. If the location isn't sealed against moisture properly it has a tendency to kill the truck in the rain. while it is running. I had enough momentum in the first incident to coast over to the shoulder but this time I was at stop when it died, so couldn't get it out of the way of traffic. And since it wasn't on the freeway itself the Metro Patrol didn't take note to give me a tow to a safe location. The Pep Boy shop turned out to be very close by, resulting in the shortest tow I've ever had but in retrospect going there was a mistake. If I had somehow known it was the same issue, it would have been worth the expense to tow it the nearly 40 miles to the dealership in Valencia that had worked on it last time and demand they do it again gratis. But this wasn't known until it had been in Pep boys hands for a while, incurring sunk costs in their diagnostics.

Fortunately a coworker at my nearby sometime employer was able to get me home, as his is about two-thirds of the way there. He also picked me up Saturday morning to accompany him to his parents' house to shoot a video interview of his father for an award he's receiving from the National Space Society. I was also there to work on a PC that had thrown a drive and due to a historical artifact was disabled by this loss despite it not being the boot volume. (The expense of SSDs used to be such that it made sense to locate the user directories on the cheap and spacious secondary platter drive but the loss of those directories drives the OS around the bend before it gives up and lets you do some things.) The plan was that the Explorer would be ready late in the day and he would take me to Pasadena to retrieve it, and I'd take him to the airport this morning and take care of his cats for the week he was away.

When I spoke to Pep Boys in the early afternoon this seemed to be a good plan as they indicated they'd found the CPS problem and had the parts in stock. However, when I hadn't heard from for several hours and called again at the latest point of leave or stay, they said they were waiting on a part. OK. So Alex would pick me up this morning, I'd take him to the airport, take his car and use it until I worked out a way to get both cars where they belonged. But then this morning he called. I was expecting him to say he was on approach and I should be outside waiting but instead he'd discovered his flight was nearly an hour earlier than he'd previously thought and he had to haul ass to LAX and leave the car in long term parking for the week.

OK. There was a friend I could ask to get me to Pasadena but I wasn't going to send him well out of his way in two directions without some assurance the car was ready. Pep Boys didn't answer their phone. All day. They were open Sundays 10-6 according to their online info and the signage I noted on Friday. So I have no idea what the story is with the car now.

I have an appointment to work on setting up a new PC for someone in the lower floor of my sometime employer's building tomorrow. Fortunately there is a Metro Link stop just a few blocks away, so if I get dropped off at the train station here to keep the appointment, I should be able to get a ride over to Pep Boys (about six miles) later that day, assuming its ready. Otherwise I'm in the train home and the bus the rest of the way.

So I pretty much got to sit home all day, hoping for a phone call from Pep Boys and reflecting on how little control I have over anything in my life.

Posted by: Epobirs at May 08, 2016 10:33 PM (IdCqF)

152 Bebe, I know. I'll figure something out, however.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 08, 2016 10:33 PM (fC9RO)

153 Slapweasel, if it makes you feel better, I'll go beat her up for you. She sounds high maintenance and no fun any away.

You'll be fine. You'll find someone better than her. I'm sure you will.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 08, 2016 10:34 PM (5QyYN)

154 142
Where do fleas really, really come from? I used to feed 2 feral cats 3 times a week and now my cousins' precious Miniature Yorkies and their 2 Himalayans have fleas and they're blaming me. The ferals used to bump my hands a little but they'd never let me deliberately touch them.

Yeah, their Yorkies go outside every now and then, to a dog park or on shopping trips. They ride in a little stroller and wear little Hawaiian shirts and tutus and such.
Posted by: iforgot at May 08, 2016 10:30 PM (5o5ek)

Your cousin deserves fleas. Good lord

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 08, 2016 10:34 PM (voOPb)

155 Slap, money's always spoiled people... but it seems like in today's world, it's even worse.

IMHO too many people, once they've made enough money so that they don't need to depend on anyone else, become stone-cold arrogant, intolerant, inconsiderate assholes. Men and women. As if money proves they know everything and everyone else knows nothing.

Bosses, women I've known, others... I've just seen it so many times. Very frustrating and sickening.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 08, 2016 10:35 PM (ntObR)

156 My mother wouldn't get on a boat if it had the "Queen" monicker in front of it.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 09:34 PM (OQ9R7)


She'd be SOL, then, going anywhere on the B.C. Ferry system. All their ships are "Queen" of something.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 08, 2016 10:35 PM (TPAM2)

157 Project Moon Base was a Heinlein movie.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 08, 2016 10:36 PM (k4M/B)

158 Prefer "Tunnel in the Sky," and "The Moon is a Cruel Mistress", great writer and a lot of stories of him helping out young writers. Asimov was quoted as saying something like Heinlien didn't know how to write a female character, which was oblivious to himself.

Posted by: Auscolpyr at May 08, 2016 10:36 PM (Ht/4p)

159 119: ten seconds was all it took for me. just awful. bar bands around here do it better. axl sucks. always has.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 08, 2016 10:29 PM (ucDmr)

First couple times I heard axl on the radio, I figured it was some kind of parody...nobody could sound that bad and be in a band.

Posted by: Blano at May 08, 2016 10:36 PM (heN73)

160 For Axl Rose it's always been about his ego. Not the fans, not the music, not the band. Just him.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 08, 2016 10:37 PM (ntObR)

161 I was "lucky" to have met her. She just despises people who are into "time-wasting" sports.

I felt the same way about her interests in "Hollywood".

Interesting, self-made woman who I will never go out with again.

-Period.

Moar Beer, Pleez!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 10:37 PM (OQ9R7)

162 Posted by: Alec Rawls at May 08, 2016 10:01 PM (v+/21)

You obviously missed the attempted satire making fun of the "heroes." The only reason some of the actual points of Heinlein's book make it into the movie are because Verhoeven was too stupid to understand the book. Just a few lowlights:

- The Nazi like uniforms.
- The sadistic training.
- The commercials which are either out of context of the book or just blatantly meant to be jingoistic.
- Denise Richards
- Denise Richards' teeth
- No power armor. They could have made it work if they had a director capable of inventive thinking.
- Gary Busey
- Bugs that aren't really smart.
- Gary Busey's teeth

And the list goes on. I read a couple of interviews of Verhoeven for the movie. He had no idea of what the book meant except he believed it was fascist.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 08, 2016 10:37 PM (n2GmV)

163 If you don't mind my asking, Slapweasel, how old are you?

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 08, 2016 10:38 PM (FQKBL)

164 I think Slapweasel is going to be the first Moron with a beer pipeline.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2016 10:38 PM (fU0YZ)

165 No. She wasn't "spoiled". She built a business from scratch, much like I did.

She just wouldn't watch sports to save her life and I wouldn't watch Entertainment Tonight to save mine.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 10:38 PM (OQ9R7)

166 Slapweasel, this woman you went out with. She's not Persian and a resident of south Orange County, is she? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 08, 2016 10:38 PM (ntObR)

167 axl rose, worst frontman ever.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 08, 2016 10:39 PM (ucDmr)

168 I'm not disparaging her, but that date went sour, fast!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 10:39 PM (OQ9R7)

169 Watched Hitchcock's classic 1944 flick "Lifeboat" last night with family. We all thought it was okay but that parts were a little confusing. I probably need to watch it again.

I know it was the first flick that started to make Hitch really famous, at least as far as I know.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 08, 2016 10:02 PM (ntObR)


Did you catch Hitch's cameo appearance in the show?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 08, 2016 10:39 PM (TPAM2)

170 Yeah Verhoeven had his Robocop and ED-209, but the suits for the Mobile Infantry? Yeah those got left out.

But Herr OberstSturmFuhrer Doogie Howser? Ja wohl!

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2016 10:40 PM (fU0YZ)

171 Epobirs that sounds terrible

Posted by: chemjeff - Fapplebee's Libertarian at May 08, 2016 10:40 PM (+4mdw)

172 AOP, yup. Wonder if that fat reducing formula still exists? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 08, 2016 10:40 PM (ntObR)

173 That clip of Axl singing for AC/DC reminds of of the Boston concert I attended in early August of 1997 at the Gorge at George (WA).

Tom Scholz was completely immobilized on stage by two enormous knee braces, and Brad Delp had to have Fran Cosmo singing with him because Brad couldn't hit the high notes any longer. Still a great show.

Boston is touring again this year, like AC/DC and the both of them just need to hang it up. They are past their sell-by dates by quite a bit.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 08, 2016 10:41 PM (CS7jF)

174 I took my mother to Huddle House for a burger

Posted by: tmitsss at May 08, 2016 10:41 PM (sUvQQ)

175 92 cthulhu, that clip was hilarious. I didn't get it at first and was befuddled. I laughed when he said he named his pigeon Donald and at the end when we got to see the greyhound. Thanks for that.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 08, 2016 10:12 PM (5QyYN)



I thoroughly enjoyed that show in the 70s when I was about 15. Here's another classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz2-ukrd2VQ

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 10:41 PM (EzgxV)

176 I actually liked Guns & Roses (Appetite For Destruction was outstanding). Axle's voice worked with them. Axle and AC/DC? Not so much. AC/DC should just hang it up. They had a good run.

I've gotten in arguments in saying that David Grohl and Foo Fighters are a superior band to Nirvana because Dave is a better singer.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 08, 2016 10:41 PM (crrLc)

177 Actually, I feel it's my duty to serve on a jury. The alternative is some libtard serving so I try to do the right thing.

I'd like to do the right thing, too, but I've never been selected for jury duty. Every single time I've gone through voir dire, I've been asked what I do for a living. When I tell the lawyers, the next question is invariably what is my level of education. When I say "Postgraduate degree," I'm dismissed. Truth is that trial lawyers don't want analytical jurors; they want people who are easily swayed by emotion. I have jury duty coming up in October, and I expect the farce will play out as usual.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 08, 2016 10:41 PM (3C9q2)

178 Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 08, 2016 10:37 PM (n2GmV)

Gary Busey wasn't in the movie - his son Jake was, though.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at May 08, 2016 10:41 PM (OR5cC)

179 158 Asimov was quoted as saying something like Heinlien didn't know how to write a female character, which was oblivious to himself.
Posted by: Auscolpyr at May 08, 2016 10:36 PM (Ht/4p)


I like a lot of Asimov's writing, but his female characters that aren't cardboard are basically men in skirts.

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 10:42 PM (iMxBJ)

180 SMFH:

I court clerked for a number of years...If you check that you are a full time student, they will reschedule you for summer/spring break/Christmas break.

If you get on a civil trial, it'll probably be a motor vehicle accident, and the plaintiff probably will have neck or back injuries. Just mention that you believe in tort reform, or that you think chiropractors are quacks.

If you get a criminal trial, chances are it will be a drug charge. Pick a relative who's already dead, and tell them he died from bad heroin.

That being said, everyone should do their jury duty. Yeah, it's frequently boring and jurors can be idiots at times (e.g. OJ's,) but the alternative is letting judges decide every case.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 08, 2016 10:42 PM (Lsu4e)

181 > 138 Robert Heinlein has not been well-treated by Hollywood. Puppet Masters was kind of cheesy, Starship Troopers was all about Verhoeven's politics ...

Is it just that his books don't film well? Or is this conscious political sabotage?
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In the case of Troopers, it was *conscious political sabotage*. 100% intentional.

Puppet Masters was decent considering there was no budget.

Posted by: ArthurK at May 08, 2016 10:42 PM (h53OH)

182 165 No. She wasn't "spoiled". She built a business from scratch, much like I did. She just wouldn't watch sports to save her life and I wouldn't watch Entertainment Tonight to save mine.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 10:38

She's a shallow, self-absorbed twat. Good riddance. And look on the bright side, she paid her own way so all you're out is a little bit of time.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 08, 2016 10:43 PM (BYJ2T)

183 Is it just that his books don't film well? Or is this conscious political sabotage?
Posted by: Trimegistus at May 08, 2016 10:28 PM (Kdx3B)

I always thought his juvenile books would make good movies. Unlike most of today's YA type stories, the protagonist doesn't know everything. The adults aren't idiots. And it doesn't involve teens trying to dismember each other. Finally, boys aren't there to fall in love with the main chick.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 08, 2016 10:43 PM (n2GmV)

184 107 Okay I am searching for a hotel.
What is your best hotel searching website?
Travelocity? Expedia? Hotels.com? Other?

Posted by: chemjeff - Fapplebee's Libertarian at May 08, 2016 10:20 PM (+4mdw)



Orbitz -- but find on one, check on another.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 10:43 PM (EzgxV)

185 Yeah, their Yorkies go outside every now and then, to a dog park or on
shopping trips. They ride in a little stroller and wear little Hawaiian
shirts and tutus and such.


oh my dear lord

you should get the dogs drunk or something

Posted by: chemjeff - Fapplebee's Libertarian at May 08, 2016 10:43 PM (+4mdw)

186 I'm forty-four and I know what's what. When she started talking about football like it was for idiots, I knew that it was going south.

When I started talking about Hollywood like it was for drooling idiots, she knew it was going south.

I have no judgement about her being opinionated.

So am I!

...We just didn't connect.

...other than last night.

*High-Fives*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 10:43 PM (OQ9R7)

187 never read Starship Troopers so the movie has always been a favorite popcorn flick. its fun.

no interest in the book. arguing over it is silly.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 08, 2016 10:43 PM (Cq0oW)

188 Truth is that trial lawyers don't want analytical
jurors; they want people who are easily swayed by emotion.
Posted by: Basement Cat at May 08, 2016 10:41 PM
~~~~~~~

^^^ True!

Posted by: IrishEi at May 08, 2016 10:43 PM (Lsu4e)

189
The story is OK, but the political ideas are silly and wouldn't work in real life.
Posted by: Colorado Alex


We know what you mean.

Posted by: George Washington and Thomas Jefferson at May 08, 2016 10:43 PM (k4M/B)

190 Did you catch Hitch's cameo appearance in the show?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 08, 2016 10:39 PM (TPAM2)


That was probably the most inventive cameo ever.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at May 08, 2016 10:44 PM (OR5cC)

191 Slap, sorry to hear that. It stinks, but it's better to find out now.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 08, 2016 10:44 PM (rJUlF)

192 Gary Busey wasn't in the movie - his son Jake was, though.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at May 08, 2016 10:41 PM (OR5cC)

Thanks. I knew I was going to mess that up.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 08, 2016 10:44 PM (n2GmV)

193 Where do fleas really, really come from? I used to
feed 2 feral cats 3 times a week and now my cousins' precious Miniature
Yorkies and their 2 Himalayans have fleas and they're blaming me. The
ferals used to bump my hands a little but they'd never let me
deliberately touch them.



Yeah, their Yorkies go outside every now and then, to a dog park or
on shopping trips. They ride in a little stroller and wear little
Hawaiian shirts and tutus and such.

Posted by: iforgot at May 08, 2016 10:30 PM (5o5ek)

Unless your cousin's pets were around the ferals, the fleas probably just came from the pets being outside.

Posted by: redbanzai at May 08, 2016 10:44 PM (nUJM6)

194 I've typed enough earnings calls for Expedia that I know the name of the CEO: Dara Khosrowshahi.

I don't know what he looks like but he sounds *exactly* like Robert Downey Jr. when he speaks.

And, he seems like a decent guy although I get the strong impression that a lot of these sites are actually different labels for Expedia itself.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 08, 2016 10:45 PM (ntObR)

195 All this talk of Heinlein reminds me I need to get some writing done.

Tshuss mein komerads!

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2016 10:45 PM (fU0YZ)

196 117 Bebe! Right now I'm fighting a migraine, so life kind of sucks.

Haven't chosen yet. I'm going to call the graduate adviser at Cal Lutheran next week and ask about work opportunities and such. I've got a couple more weeks until I have to make a decision.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 08, 2016 10:22 PM (fC9RO)



Sister went to Cal Lu. She ended up marrying into a family that had several Lutheran priests....

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 10:45 PM (EzgxV)

197 193 Unless your cousin's pets were around the ferals, the fleas probably just came from the pets being outside.
Posted by: redbanzai at May 08, 2016 10:44 PM (nUJM6)


This. The Yorkie owner needs to understand just how high fleas can jump.

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 10:45 PM (iMxBJ)

198 I like a lot of Asimov's writing, but his female characters that aren't cardboard are basically men in skirts.

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 10:42 PM (iMxBJ)


Are you saying that's a bad thing, H8R?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 08, 2016 10:45 PM (fC9RO)

199 sorry Epobirs

Posted by: north and judd at May 08, 2016 10:45 PM (ceWrl)

200 Truth is that trial lawyers don't want analytical

jurors; they want people who are easily swayed by emotion.
Posted by: Basement Cat at May 08, 2016 10:41 PM
~~~~~~~

^^^ True!


Posted by: IrishEi at May 08, 2016 10:43 PM (Lsu4e)

I once got kicked off a jury for saying I would believe forensic evidence over eye witness testimony.

Posted by: redbanzai at May 08, 2016 10:46 PM (nUJM6)

201 Jeff, yup.

I think a decent remake of Lifeboat could get made, if Hollywood at least tried not to CGI it up too much.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 08, 2016 10:46 PM (ntObR)

202 Anyone that would spend money on an Axl Rose show is nuts. You're better off buying lottery tickets or gambling in Vegas. That nutbag bails out of shows more often than he shows up. And when he does actually show, it's usually HOURS late.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 08, 2016 10:47 PM (BYJ2T)

203 190 That was probably the most inventive cameo ever.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at May 08, 2016 10:44 PM (OR5cC)


I admit I don't know what you're talking about, but the opportunity to point out my favorite WTF cameo is irresistible: Mickey Kaus in Idiocracy. He can put on an epic idiot face, and he fit right in.

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 10:48 PM (iMxBJ)

204 I actually feel good right now, gang. When I knew what was what it was uncomfortable for that hour-or-so, but she dropped me off and I told her:

"Hey... you go get what you're looking for, okay?"

She smiled and said: "You too."

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 10:48 PM (OQ9R7)

205 Sister went to Cal Lu. She ended up marrying into a family that had several Lutheran priests....

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 10:45 PM (EzgxV)


So you're saying that I shouldn't show up the first day wearing my "Resurrect the Catholic League!" t-shirt?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 08, 2016 10:49 PM (fC9RO)

206 When I started, though, songs were longer on average. I don't know what the DJs did when the songs were three minutes or less.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread
----------------------------

You can always fall back on MacArthur Park.

Downside: Station may be burned to the ground.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at May 08, 2016 10:49 PM (mxCgt)

207
So am I!



...We just didn't connect.



...other than last night.



*High-Fives*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 10:43 PM (OQ9R7)

There are lots of attractive, smart, sensible women out there looking for someone like you. Keep looking.

Posted by: Sixkiller at May 08, 2016 10:49 PM (pcyHg)

208 In 1988, May 8 took away writer Robert Heinlein. It's time to re-read "Starship Troopers" and put another pin in your Paul Verhoeven voodoo doll for turning a complex, interesting book into a stupid cartoon of a movie.

Bitch all you want. You know if my version of "Total Recall" comes on, you're watching it.

Posted by: Paul Verhoeven at May 08, 2016 10:49 PM (VtV1E)

209 Heinlein's books probably haven't translated that well into movies because 1) Hollywood sucks at making books into movies and 2) okay, I will probably burn in Hell for this, but Heinlein's books aren't that good - at least in terms of stories that make movies.

I think the one that had the best story line to make a movie was Starman Jones, and it was one of his "juveniles" so probably wouldn't get that kind of attention.

Starship Troopers as a book was kind of more like Full Metal Jacket. Half of it in Basic, half of it in Combat. With a little intro on it that was political.

Posted by: blaster at May 08, 2016 10:50 PM (2Ocf1)

210 198 Are you saying that's a bad thing, H8R?
Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 08, 2016 10:45 PM (fC9RO)


No skin off my nose. They're not forcing me to share a bathroom with them.

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 10:50 PM (iMxBJ)

211 Broad drove a new Jaguar. She was intelligent and I was impressed.

We were simply incompatible.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 10:50 PM (OQ9R7)

212 Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 10:43 PM (OQ9R7)

Sorry to hear it Slap. I know what it feels like.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 08, 2016 10:50 PM (P8951)

213 You can always fall back on MacArthur Park.

Downside: Station may be burned to the ground.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at May 08, 2016 10:49 PM (mxCgt)

----

Hmm...Richard Harris or Donna Summer version?
Decisions, decisions...

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 08, 2016 10:51 PM (rJUlF)

214
everyone should do their jury duty.

-----------------------

I agree. Saudi Arabian neighbor of mine once got in my face about how I'd never go to the two Muslim holy places, Mecca and Medina. I told him there are two sacred places he'd never go: the voting booth and the jury box.

So go, and be grateful.

Posted by: iforgot at May 08, 2016 10:51 PM (5o5ek)

215 Morons and ettes who are married - stay married. Remember how much dating sucks.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 08, 2016 10:52 PM (P8951)

216 I've heard stations start up "MacArthur Park" and then suddenly turn it off midway through, followed by the sound of the DJ apologizing profusely...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 08, 2016 10:52 PM (ntObR)

217 There are lots of attractive, smart, sensible women out there looking for someone like you. Keep looking.
Posted by: Sixkiller at May 08, 2016 10:49 PM (pcyHg)

That's true. I mean, if I -- an average-looking lower-middle-class-income dude who's losing his hair can find someone -- then anyone can.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 08, 2016 10:52 PM (rJUlF)

218 Evenin' everyone.

Happy Mother's Day to all the mom'ettes.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 08, 2016 10:52 PM (T/cxb)

219 187:no interest in the book. arguing over it is silly.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich



No its not.

Posted by: Ministry of Arguments at May 08, 2016 10:53 PM (crrLc)

220 215 Morons and ettes who are married - stay married. Remember how much dating sucks.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 08, 2016 10:52 PM (P8951)

Unfortunately that ship sailed, not by my choice.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 08, 2016 10:53 PM (0mRoj)

221 sorry, but the single best BBQ web page on teh Intarwebz is, and has been, Ray Basso's BBQ Forum.

home slice may be knowledgeable, but i haven't found a site with the breadth and accumulated knowledge, including a searchable database of old poasts to match his. feel free to prove me wrong.

http://www.rbjb.com/rbjb/rbjbboard/

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 08, 2016 10:53 PM (XOZxO)

222 Posted by: ArthurK at May 08, 2016 10:42 PM (h53OH)

Hearing about the movie coming out prompted me to go and read Starship Troopers, and that finally got me hooked on RAH. I think I've read everything at least once since then. My favorites are The Moon is a Harsh Mistress and The Door into Summer.

My first exposure to him as The Number of the Beast when I was about 16 or so. Had so many inside jokes and stuff in it went right by me. I read Friday a few years later and thought it was pretty good, but RAH fannishness didn't take until ST.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at May 08, 2016 10:53 PM (OR5cC)

223 I once got kicked off a jury for saying I would believe forensic evidence over eye witness testimony.
Posted by: redbanzai
-------------

Just wear a "Kill 'em all. Let God sort 'em out" tee-shirt. Likely the defense attorney will preempt.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at May 08, 2016 10:53 PM (mxCgt)

224 209 Heinlein's books aren't that good

*Partially unsheathes ancestral katana *

- at least in terms of stories that make movies.

* re-sheathes ancestral katana *

Ok, you have a point. Starship Troopers is one of those intense first-person narratives. It is a great and compelling book. Re-read it two weeks ago, and that just confirmed its greatness. It might be filmed well, but it would take a frickin' genius who loved the story. Might happen, someday.

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 10:53 PM (iMxBJ)

225 Like I said... it was one uncomfortable hour, or so. She played 80's tunes on the way back and we both dug the grooves.

I'm All-Good, amigos!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 10:53 PM (OQ9R7)

226 I'm always looking for some nice guy to set up with my friend from college. She's 48, not "hot," but pretty, very tiny and petite. Worked her way up to running libraries, but currently works in a related position for a law firm. Politically conservative, but not as conservative as most of y'all here. Not into sports, but doesn't think they're dumb. She mostly likes going to restaurants or fun activities around town. And extremely attached to living on the east side of Cleveland.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 08, 2016 10:54 PM (FQKBL)

227 Unfortunately that ship sailed, not by my choice.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 08, 2016 10:53 PM (0mRoj)

We're in that same club, friend.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 08, 2016 10:54 PM (rJUlF)

228 That's true. I mean, if I -- an average-looking lower-middle-class-income dude who's losing his hair can find someone -- then anyone can.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 08, 2016 10:52 PM (rJUlF)

Well maybe you could offer a class to us 'rons who apparently can't (raises hand). : )

Posted by: Blano at May 08, 2016 10:55 PM (heN73)

229 151 So on Friday, for the second time in two months, and after an expensive repair, I was left in pouring rain waiting hours for a tow truck. Last time was on the side of a freeway. This time was even better because the Explorer died when second in line on an off ramp to pull onto the street, so I was blocking traffic all of this time. It's remarkable how many idiots will pull up close behind a car with its emergency lights flashing and then act surprised when it doesn't move as the light changes.

The fault each time, supposedly is the Crank Position Sensor, or CPS as it is known to those who work on Ford trucks a lot . My search may have produced confirmation bias but this item getting wet is apparently a chronic problem, to the extent it is widely advised to have spares on hand if you work on the vehicle yourself. If the location isn't sealed against moisture properly it has a tendency to kill the truck in the rain. while it is running. I had enough momentum in the first incident to coast over to the shoulder but this time I was at stop when it died, so couldn't get it out of the way of traffic. And since it wasn't on the freeway itself the Metro Patrol didn't take note to give me a tow to a safe location. The Pep Boy shop turned out to be very close by, resulting in the shortest tow I've ever had but in retrospect going there was a mistake. If I had somehow known it was the same issue, it would have been worth the expense to tow it the nearly 40 miles to the dealership in Valencia that had worked on it last time and demand they do it again gratis. But this wasn't known until it had been in Pep boys hands for a while, incurring sunk costs in their diagnostics.

Fortunately a coworker at my nearby sometime employer was able to get me home, as his is about two-thirds of the way there. He also picked me up Saturday morning to accompany him to his parents' house to shoot a video interview of his father for an award he's receiving from the National Space Society. I was also there to work on a PC that had thrown a drive and due to a historical artifact was disabled by this loss despite it not being the boot volume. (The expense of SSDs used to be such that it made sense to locate the user directories on the cheap and spacious secondary platter drive but the loss of those directories drives the OS around the bend before it gives up and lets you do some things.) The plan was that the Explorer would be ready late in the day and he would take me to Pasadena to retrieve it, and I'd take him to the airport this morning and take care of his cats for the week he was away.

When I spoke to Pep Boys in the early afternoon this seemed to be a good plan as they indicated they'd found the CPS problem and had the parts in stock. However, when I hadn't heard from for several hours and called again at the latest point of leave or stay, they said they were waiting on a part. OK. So Alex would pick me up this morning, I'd take him to the airport, take his car and use it until I worked out a way to get both cars where they belonged. But then this morning he called. I was expecting him to say he was on approach and I should be outside waiting but instead he'd discovered his flight was nearly an hour earlier than he'd previously thought and he had to haul ass to LAX and leave the car in long term parking for the week.

OK. There was a friend I could ask to get me to Pasadena but I wasn't going to send him well out of his way in two directions without some assurance the car was ready. Pep Boys didn't answer their phone. All day. They were open Sundays 10-6 according to their online info and the signage I noted on Friday. So I have no idea what the story is with the car now.

I have an appointment to work on setting up a new PC for someone in the lower floor of my sometime employer's building tomorrow. Fortunately there is a Metro Link stop just a few blocks away, so if I get dropped off at the train station here to keep the appointment, I should be able to get a ride over to Pep Boys (about six miles) later that day, assuming its ready. Otherwise I'm in the train home and the bus the rest of the way.

So I pretty much got to sit home all day, hoping for a phone call from Pep Boys and reflecting on how little control I have over anything in my life.

Posted by: Epobirs at May 08, 2016 10:33 PM (IdCqF)



Yup. That qualifies as a serious pain in the ass that simultaneously sucks donkey dongs and blows. The good news is that -- after it costs you a bunch of time, money, and aggravation -- it will be easily forgotten. The bad news is that you're only partially into the time, money, and aggravation part. You have my sympathy.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 10:55 PM (EzgxV)

230
Your cousin deserves fleas. Good lord

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 08, 2016 10:34 PM (voOPb)
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That ain't even the half of it. The animals relieve themselves all over the house. Upstairs hall is Doggie Diamond Row. The place reeks. Dogs eat at the dinner table, lick my cousins' mouths while they're eating. Cousins kiss the dogs on the mouth and say "You taste like poo-poo. Have you been eating poo-poo?"

But they're saving my life as an economic refugee from California, so I've got to chalk it up to human imperfection and bide my time.

Posted by: iforgot at May 08, 2016 10:55 PM (5o5ek)

231 Blaster: you have a point. Most of Heinlein's novels would be hard to film -- can you imagine trying to adapt Stranger in a Strange Land or Time Enough For Love?

But there are some good candidates. Time For the Stars or Moon Is A Harsh Mistress would both make good movies.

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 08, 2016 10:55 PM (Kdx3B)

232 I've heard stations start up "MacArthur Park" and then suddenly turn it off midway through, followed by the sound of the DJ apologizing profusely...
Posted by: qdpsteve
------------

What I would like to hear is the crashing of a door, incoherent mob shouts, and gunfire.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at May 08, 2016 10:55 PM (mxCgt)

233 Barb, sigh. Let me know if she's willing to move to California... :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 08, 2016 10:55 PM (ntObR)

234 And extremely attached to living on the east side of Cleveland.


Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 08, 2016 10:54 PM (FQKBL)

And a Browns fan. Clearly deranged. Run.;-)

Posted by: Sixkiller at May 08, 2016 10:56 PM (pcyHg)

235 Puppet masters was actually decent. Sutherland was great. And Julie Warner at her peak. Yum.

Posted by: Esch at May 08, 2016 10:56 PM (eEEbp)

236 I agree. Saudi Arabian neighbor of mine once got in my face about how I'd never go to the two Muslim holy places, Mecca and Medina

How the hell did that happen?

Posted by: AD at May 08, 2016 10:57 PM (VtV1E)

237 Well maybe you could offer a class to us 'rons who apparently can't (raises hand). : )
Posted by: Blano at May 08, 2016 10:55 PM (heN73)

Are you kidding? I still don't know how it happened myself!

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 08, 2016 10:57 PM (rJUlF)

238 I was in a jury pool last week. A drug case. I was amazed at all the people around me that wanted marijuana legalized.

I wanted to be on the jury to hear the chemist's evidence. GC-MS? HPLC? 2D NMR? Or are they still using melting points and melting point depression?

I did not make the cut, alas.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 08, 2016 10:57 PM (u82oZ)

239 I'm always looking for some nice guy to set up with my friend from college. She's 48, not "hot," but pretty, very tiny and petite. Worked her way up to running libraries, but currently works in a related position for a law firm. Politically conservative, but not as conservative as most of y'all here. Not into sports, but doesn't think they're dumb. She mostly likes going to restaurants or fun activities around town. And extremely attached to living on the east side of Cleveland.


Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 08, 2016 10:54 PM (FQKBL)

You had me until "Cleveland."

Posted by: Blano at May 08, 2016 10:57 PM (heN73)

240 Heinlein's books probably haven't translated that well into movies because 1) Hollywood sucks at making books into movies and 2) okay, I will probably burn in Hell for this, but Heinlein's books aren't that good - at least in terms of stories that make movies. I think the one that had the best story line to make a movie was Starman Jones, and it was one of his "juveniles" so probably wouldn't get that kind of attention. Starship Troopers as a book was kind of more like Full Metal Jacket. Half of it in Basic, half of it in Combat. With a little intro on it that was political.

Posted by: blaster at May 08, 2016 10:50 PM


You should check out "Predestination" from 2014. Based on Heinlein's story "All You Zombies". Weird flick, but it represents a good adaptation of Heinlein's work. It wasn't exactly a Hollywood production, which might have something to do with it. But, I was pleasantly surprised... it stood out in a sea of shit. It's no masterpiece, but it keeps you engaged and guessing all the way through.

Posted by: otho at May 08, 2016 10:57 PM (EWg9n)

241 Friday is a novel meant to be made into an action movie. Can'the believe Joss hasn't optioned it or something.

Posted by: Esch at May 08, 2016 10:57 PM (eEEbp)

242 230:risgusting. i almost hurled.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 08, 2016 10:58 PM (ucDmr)

243 203 190 That was probably the most inventive cameo ever.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at May 08, 2016 10:44 PM (OR5cC)

I admit I don't know what you're talking about, but the opportunity to point out my favorite WTF cameo is irresistible: Mickey Kaus in Idiocracy. He can put on an epic idiot face, and he fit right in.
Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 10:48 PM (iMxBJ)


He was on the *newspaper* one of the refugees was reading at the very beginning of the movie. As a Weight loss "before and after" advertisement.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at May 08, 2016 10:58 PM (OR5cC)

244
Moon Is A Harsh Mistress would both make good movies.
Posted by: Trimegistus


I can't imagine Hollywood making that one.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 08, 2016 10:59 PM (k4M/B)

245 214: Saudi Arabian neighbor of mine once got in my face about how I'd never go to the two Muslim holy places, Mecca and Medina.


You should have answered that a city that won't serve beer and pulled pork sandwiches are hell holes anyway.

Posted by: Ministry of Arguments at May 08, 2016 10:59 PM (crrLc)

246
reflecting on how little control I have over anything in my life.

Posted by: Epobirs at May 08, 2016 10:33 PM (IdCqF)

----------------------

Effin' miserable. I sympathize.

Posted by: iforgot at May 08, 2016 10:59 PM (5o5ek)

247 ..."And extremely attached to living on the east side of Cleveland."
-Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 08, 2016 10:54 PM (FQKBL)

Yeah... about that. I've been there plenty-often. I pressure-washed houses all over that area. Some good, some not so good.

Lyndhurst, Shaker Hts. and the outskirts? Okay. South Euclid and East Cleveland proper?

...oof.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 10:59 PM (OQ9R7)

248 Cousins kiss the dogs on the mouth and say "You taste like poo-poo. Have you been eating poo-poo?"

Lady, you don't know the half of it

Posted by: Yorkie Wearing a Tutu at May 08, 2016 11:00 PM (+4mdw)

249 243 He was on the *newspaper* one of the refugees was reading at the very beginning of the movie. As a Weight loss "before and after" advertisement.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at May 08, 2016 10:58 PM (OR5cC)


Ha! Didn't notice that. It's about time to rewatch that movie.

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 11:00 PM (iMxBJ)

250
You should have answered that a city that won't serve beer and pulled pork sandwiches are hell holes anyway.

Posted by: Ministry of Arguments at May 08, 2016 10:59 PM (crrLc)
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Heh. You're right. That guy was an exuberant drinker.

Posted by: iforgot at May 08, 2016 11:00 PM (5o5ek)

251 She was a nice lady. She compared something bad to the Browns and I laughed. I no longer watch Cleveland Browns games.

She then compared people who watched sports to lunatics.

I tried to diffuse the situation by telling her that I thought about people who watched "Entertainment Tonight", (Hollywood bullshit), like that at times, but I knew that wasn't true. It was an escape.

Nerves hit.


Can't imagine why she's single.

Posted by: AD at May 08, 2016 11:01 PM (VtV1E)

252 Now that I've learnt more about Slapweasel's bad second date, I really regret the comment I made about it in the last thread...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 11:01 PM (kP16F)

253 You taste like poo-poo. Have you been eating poo-poo?"
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I'd love to ask them "how do you know what poo tastes like?"

Unless you have fleas too, the dogs didn't get them from you. From the sound of things, fleas are the least of the concerns there. Good luck! Hell, I'd be scratching too if I lived like that.

Posted by: DrC at May 08, 2016 11:01 PM (8NLb9)

254 I'm wondering why Stranger In A Strange Land hasn't been made into a movie yet

Posted by: chemjeff - Fapplebee's Libertarian at May 08, 2016 11:01 PM (+4mdw)

255 reflecting on how little control I have over anything in my life.

Posted by: Epobirs at May 08, 2016 10:33 PM (IdCqF)

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Effin' miserable. I sympathize.

Posted by: iforgot at May 08, 2016 10:59 PM (5o5ek)

I can kinda relate.

I have to move out of the house I'm living in by the 18th, and currently have nowhere to go. I hate this stuff going down to the last minute. This will be my 3rd move in 8 months. Not many apartments around here I can afford without risking life and limb seems like.

Posted by: Blano at May 08, 2016 11:01 PM (heN73)

256 227 Unfortunately that ship sailed, not by my choice.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 08, 2016 10:53 PM (0mRoj)

We're in that same club, friend.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 08, 2016 10:54 PM (rJUlF)

Sadly, we have a lot of company.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 08, 2016 11:01 PM (0mRoj)

257 205 Sister went to Cal Lu. She ended up marrying into a family that had several Lutheran priests....

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 10:45 PM (EzgxV)


So you're saying that I shouldn't show up the first day wearing my "Resurrect the Catholic League!" t-shirt?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 08, 2016 10:49 PM (fC9RO)



Depends on whether you want 95 theses nailed to your door.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 11:02 PM (EzgxV)

258 Well I found a decent hotel at a decent rate, thanks for the Kayak tip

Posted by: chemjeff - Fapplebee's Libertarian at May 08, 2016 11:02 PM (+4mdw)

259 "Can't imagine why she's single."
-Posted by: AD at May 08, 2016 11:01 PM (VtV1E)

She is HOT, but I'm not a kid any longer ...lol.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 11:02 PM (OQ9R7)

260 That ain't even the half of it. The animals relieve
themselves all over the house. Upstairs hall is Doggie Diamond Row. The
place reeks. Dogs eat at the dinner table, lick my cousins' mouths while
they're eating. Cousins kiss the dogs on the mouth and say "You taste
like poo-poo. Have you been eating poo-poo?"



But they're saving my life as an economic refugee from California,
so I've got to chalk it up to human imperfection and bide my time.

Posted by: iforgot at May 08, 2016 10:55 PM (5o5ek)

Just one of the many reasons I will never own a little yip dog. If an animal is not ill or Methuselah old and can't hold its business until it gets outside, it doesn't get to live in my house (cats excepted since litterboxes).

Posted by: redbanzai at May 08, 2016 11:02 PM (nUJM6)

261 Posted by: Blano at May 08, 2016 11:01 PM (heN73)

Blano, where are you at? You in the DFW area?

Posted by: chemjeff - Fapplebee's Libertarian at May 08, 2016 11:03 PM (+4mdw)

262 "Now that I've learnt more about Slapweasel's bad second date, I really regret the comment I made about it in the last thread..."
-Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 11:01 PM (kP16F)

*HAH!* Don't even worry about it!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 11:03 PM (OQ9R7)

263 Unfortunately that ship sailed, not by my choice.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 08, 2016 10:53 PM (0mRoj)

We're in that same club, friend.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 08, 2016 10:54 PM (rJUlF)

Sadly, we have a lot of company.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 08, 2016 11:01 PM (0mRoj)

Count me in.

Posted by: Blano at May 08, 2016 11:04 PM (heN73)

264 If the conditions under which the cousins' precious doggehs live are as advertised, I should be surprised if fleas were the only parasites the poor dears have!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 11:04 PM (kP16F)

265 Kids these days!!! What a joker!!

Posted by: eleven's mom, mopping gravy off the deck of her new yacht at May 08, 2016 11:04 PM (NeFrd)

266 Depends on whether you want 95 theses nailed to your door.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 11:02 PM (EzgxV)

Or your forehead.

Posted by: Blano at May 08, 2016 11:04 PM (heN73)

267
Saudi Arabian neighbor of mine once got in my face about how I'd never go to the two Muslim holy places, Mecca and Medina

How the hell did that happen?
Posted by: AD at May 08, 2016 10:57 PM (VtV1E)
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Oh, innocently. He was a grad student with a wife and baby, I was at their place one evening borrowing something, and I joked around about them taking me to Mecca sometime. He stopped joking on the spot and said "Nope, not gonna do it, that's a place for Muslims only" blah blah. So I let him have it.

Posted by: iforgot at May 08, 2016 11:04 PM (5o5ek)

268 I wanted to be on the jury to hear the chemist's evidence. GC-MS? HPLC?
2D NMR? Or are they still using melting points and melting point
depression?>>>

If I were the lab guy presenting I would not use the acronyms. It freaks people out when you use the full names. Like Gas Chromatography Mass Spectroscopy High Pressure Liquid Chromatography and that Nuclear whatever.

Posted by: Mostly lurker Willy J. at May 08, 2016 11:05 PM (zLLv8)

269 When Dave Grohl broke his leg, it was soooo much less pathetic. He build a throne from the swords of his fallen enemies guitar parts.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 08, 2016 11:05 PM (VdICR)

270 @241 I kind of thought that Lucy (w Scarlett Johannsen) was going to be Friday - but it wasn't.

But imagine - Luc Besson directing her in the Friday story?

Posted by: blaster at May 08, 2016 11:05 PM (2Ocf1)

271 Blano, where are you at? You in the DFW area?


Posted by: chemjeff - Fapplebee's Libertarian at May 08, 2016 11:03 PM (+4mdw)

Yeah..mid-cities.

Posted by: Blano at May 08, 2016 11:05 PM (heN73)

272 270 But imagine - Luc Besson directing her in the Friday story?
Posted by: blaster at May 08, 2016 11:05 PM (2Ocf1)


Haven't read that one. Is there, by any chance, a bandage dress involved in the story?

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 11:06 PM (iMxBJ)

273 that Nuclear whatever.


Posted by: Mostly lurker Willy J. at May 08, 2016 11:05 PM (zLLv

It helps if you pronounce it "newk-yuu-ler"

Posted by: chemjeff - Fapplebee's Libertarian at May 08, 2016 11:06 PM (+4mdw)

274 The UK's new polar research ship is to be named RRS Sir David Attenborough, despite the title "Boaty McBoatface" previously topping a public vote.
A website inviting name suggestions had attracted huge interest, with Boaty McBoatface the runaway favourite.

But Science Minister Jo Johnson said there were "more suitable" names.


So why didn't they just pick the name, themselves, from the start?

Douchebags.

And that's what they should name their next ship.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 08, 2016 11:06 PM (zc3Db)

275 The animals relieve themselves all over the house. Upstairs hall is Doggie Diamond Row. The place reeks. Dogs eat at the dinner table, lick my cousins' mouths while they're eating. Cousins kiss the dogs on the mouth and say "You taste like poo-poo. Have you been eating poo-poo?"

And people wonder why some of us prefer kittehs.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 08, 2016 11:07 PM (3C9q2)

276 I got some very bad news last week. I shouldn't say "bad" because it might work out for the best but I am deeply worried about this situation and so is the rest of my family.

My SIL announced last week that her 26 year old son's girlfriend is pregnant. They first dated about 4 years ago and everyone thought it a bit odd because she is 8 years older than he is, but he was plainly crazy about her. Then she dumped him for a friend of his and he told it very badly. Last summer he got his first job (he's a firefighter) and about 6 months ago, he got back together with this woman.

And now she's pregnant. He's excited and wants to be married and be a dad and he's a great guy and a hard worker so I think he'll be a good dad. But it's not him I am worried about. I can see this chick fretting because she's 34 and her biological clock is ticking, she goes back to the boyfriend who really loved her and has a good job - and, oops, honey,I'm pregnant.

If she loves him then there is no problem. But everyone in our family fears he's being taken for a ride and will end up both heartbroken and financially ruined by a woman who is taking advantage of him. I hope and pray so much that that is not the case.

Prayers please. I was very happy when my other nephew wed last summer because it was easy to see they both loved each other and were a very good match. This match (he wants to marry her after the baby is born) fills me with foreboding.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 08, 2016 11:07 PM (P8951)

277 @272 no but RAH was deep in his libertine cups in Friday.

Posted by: blaster at May 08, 2016 11:09 PM (2Ocf1)

278 Edge of Tomorrow was pretty good. I was surprised how much of a WWII vibe it had. He was even wearing the khaki shirt and tie.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 08, 2016 11:09 PM (VdICR)

279 Slapweasel, actually she's way far east side, Willowick. And the being attached to the east side thing was mostly an inside joke for Slapweasel, since there's a big rivalry between the east and west sides of town.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 08, 2016 11:09 PM (FQKBL)

280 This match (he wants to marry her after the baby is born) fills me with foreboding.

At least he's smart enough to leave a little time for a DNA test.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 08, 2016 11:09 PM (T/cxb)

281 279 Slapweasel, actually she's way far east side, Willowick. And the being attached to the east side thing was mostly an inside joke for Slapweasel, since there's a big rivalry between the east and west sides of town.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 08, 2016 11:09 PM (FQKBL)



Have you two ever met?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 11:10 PM (EzgxV)

282 They were going to name that ship the Attenborough all along... The poll was a sham!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 11:10 PM (kP16F)

283 The hardest part about owning a tanning salon is not screwing your income.

If I could do that for fifteen years, I can deal with a woman who thinks my hobbies are stupid.

...for just over an hour.

I'm just glad that I didn't "lay into her" about Hollywood and "fashion" like I wanted to.

Age and wisdom has taught me restraint, sympathy, empathy and compassion. I merely joked about those who follow Hollywood celebrities and I saw her face.

I didn't press it any further, even though I wanted to.

I had fifty one-liners set to deploy, but that is no longer my M.O.

She was not a "feminist" and she had built her own business. I respected that and I thank God for my restraint.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 11:11 PM (OQ9R7)

284 Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 08, 2016 11:07 PM (P8951)

Is he sure the baby's his?

Posted by: Insomniac at May 08, 2016 11:11 PM (0mRoj)

285 Donna, oh that is so sad
Is everyone certain that the son is his?

Posted by: chemjeff - Fapplebee's Libertarian at May 08, 2016 11:11 PM (+4mdw)

286 ...I'd never go to the two Muslim holy places, Mecca and Medina.


***


**pulls out Muldoon bucket list**

**scans first seven pages**

**whistles tunelessly**


Nope, neither of them made the top 500.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 08, 2016 11:11 PM (NeFrd)

287 Ha! Didn't notice that. It's about time to rewatch that movie.
Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 11:00 PM (iMxBJ)


And I thought it was at the beginning. It's 19 minutes in.

Huh.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at May 08, 2016 11:12 PM (OR5cC)

288 We now have an HP-LC in my lab what a fucking pain in the ass finiky piece of equipment. If you watch any of the CSI or NCIS shows none of the equipment they show works like that.

Posted by: Mostly lurker Willy J. at May 08, 2016 11:12 PM (zLLv8)

289 Moon Is A Harsh Mistress would both make good movies.

Posted by: Trimegistus

I can't imagine Hollywood making that one.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 08, 2016 10:59 PM (k4M/B)


Maybe if they renamed it "Moon be my bitch" and cast Ice-T...

Posted by: HOLMES IV at May 08, 2016 11:12 PM (vBeA5)

290 Skimming thru he comments and seeing Asimov's name being besmirched.

Blood Fury.

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2016 11:12 PM (qUNWi)

291 actually she's way far east side,

Wait, she lives in Pittsburgh?

Why didn't you say so?

Posted by: chemjeff - Fapplebee's Libertarian at May 08, 2016 11:12 PM (+4mdw)

292 Edge of Tomorrow was pretty good. I was surprised how much of a WWII vibe it had. He was even wearing the khaki shirt and tie.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 08, 2016 11:09 PM

EOT was terrific and the surprise quality flick of the last few years. For the life of me, I don't understand why they didn't go with the original and much cooler title, "All You Need Is Kill".

Posted by: otho at May 08, 2016 11:13 PM (EWg9n)

293 They were going to name that ship the Attenborough all along... The poll was a sham!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 11:10 PM (kP16F)


At least they could have made some effort to appear as if the poll was real. They could have put their chosen name in a list and just not recorded any of the votes for any other names and then announced the winner.

But, instead, they show that they aren't even competent at rigging a name survey.

Personally, I think they should have gone with the modern British way and named the ship Mohammed.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 08, 2016 11:13 PM (zc3Db)

294
Posted by: Mostly lurker Willy J. at May 08, 2016 11:12 PM (zLLv

yeah funny how they never show technicians calibrating or maintaining the instruments...
nope, it's always "press a button" and the suspect's name is displayed on the screen.... WTF

Posted by: chemjeff - Fapplebee's Libertarian at May 08, 2016 11:13 PM (+4mdw)

295 Have Slapweasel and I ever met? No. But now my auto cucumber knows the word Slapweasel.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 08, 2016 11:14 PM (FQKBL)

296 288 Mostly lurker Willy J.

At least you don't have to sweat about liquid helium prices and helium supplies.

HPLCs needs pure solvents and clean filters.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 08, 2016 11:14 PM (u82oZ)

297 So why didn't they just pick the name, themselves, from the start?
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It's proforma "public input", so that later they can say "We had public input". It's bullshit. The entire freaking neighborhood shows up to protest a rezone from Residential to Commercial. What do you think happens?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at May 08, 2016 11:14 PM (w35Hj)

298 "Slapweasel, actually she's way far east side, Willowick. And the being attached to the east side thing was mostly an inside joke for Slapweasel, since there's a big rivalry between the east and west sides of town."
-Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 08, 2016 11:09 PM (FQKBL)

*HAH!* Yeah, that old chestnut, right? lol.

Oh, dear! I've never even been to Willowick! I don't even know where that is! I've worked as far East as South Russell and Mentor on the Lake.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 11:15 PM (OQ9R7)

299 291: Nah, way far East Cleveland is Erie, PA.

Posted by: Ministry of Arguments at May 08, 2016 11:15 PM (crrLc)

300
Unless your cousin's pets were around the ferals, the fleas probably just came from the pets being outside.
Posted by: redbanzai at May 08, 2016 10:44 PM (nUJM6)

This. The Yorkie owner needs to understand just how high fleas can jump.

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 10:45 PM (iMxBJ)
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Yeah, the ferals are about 20 miles from home. The cousins think the fleas jumped on me, rode home in my car, laid eggs in my clothes, etc.

The dad works in construction, tearing up earth all day, too. Feral cats are all over this city.

But it's actually better to drag my foot apologetically and keep quiet around these people than try to argue with them. I could go on about the craziness in this household. It's the way they are.

Posted by: iforgot at May 08, 2016 11:15 PM (5o5ek)

301 chemjeff, Pittsburgh is a dirty word here in Cleveland.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 08, 2016 11:15 PM (FQKBL)

302 Going to bed. Goodnight, everyone.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread on the phone at May 08, 2016 11:15 PM (rJUlF)

303 They were going to name that ship the Attenborough all along... The poll was a sham!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 11:10 PM (kP16F)


Rename Attenborough "Attenboroughy McAttenboroughface"

Posted by: Hatty McHatface at May 08, 2016 11:15 PM (vBeA5)

304 It's bullshit. The entire freaking neighborhood shows up to protest a rezone from Residential to Commercial. What do you think happens?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at May 08, 2016 11:14 PM (w35Hj)


A slew of tax audits suddenly happening?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 08, 2016 11:16 PM (zc3Db)

305 off sock

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 08, 2016 11:16 PM (crrLc)

306 301
chemjeff, Pittsburgh is a dirty word here in Cleveland.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 08, 2016 11:15 PM (FQKBL)

oh I know

Posted by: chemjeff - former Pittsburgh resident at May 08, 2016 11:16 PM (+4mdw)

307 277 @272 no but RAH was deep in his libertine cups in Friday.

Posted by: blaster at May 08, 2016 11:09 PM (2Ocf1)

True, but Friday was *nothing* like his "World as Myth" stories written around the same time. Friday read more like a return to an older form.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at May 08, 2016 11:17 PM (OR5cC)

308 Hard to talk about Starship Troopers w/o thinking of the 'Search the Firefly" scene in Firefly, Bushwhacked.

The music as the camera pulls back revealing Simon & River clinging to the outside of the ship is some first rate composing ...

Posted by: Adriane the TV & Movie Critic ... at May 08, 2016 11:17 PM (AoK0a)

309 G'Night, Captain Whitebread.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 11:17 PM (OQ9R7)

310 'Night, Captain.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 08, 2016 11:17 PM (0mRoj)

311 At least you don't have to sweat about liquid helium prices and helium supplies.
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Sweating over liquid helium is unlikely. Just leads to a serious brain freeze.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at May 08, 2016 11:17 PM (w35Hj)

312 First liquid helium joke ever.

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2016 11:18 PM (qUNWi)

313 Willowick is in Lake County. I think it's the first town in Lake County off of Route 2.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 08, 2016 11:18 PM (FQKBL)

314 They could have put their chosen name in a list and just not recorded any of the votes for any other names and then announced the winner.

He's right, you know.

Posted by: The DNC at May 08, 2016 11:18 PM (J3phO)

315 I don't think they expected "Boaty McBoatface" to go viral... I'm sure originally the intention was good -- you know, democracy, a voice and all that!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 11:18 PM (kP16F)

316 yeah funny how they never show technicians calibrating or maintaining the instruments...
nope, it's always "press a button" and the suspect's name is displayed on the screen.... WTF>>>

I saw one were they used a XRF* PMI gun to find a rat that had ate a bullet from 20 feet. If for the gun to work at that distance they would have all died of radiation poisoning.

*X-ray Florescence Positive Material Identification.

Posted by: Mostly lurker Willy J. at May 08, 2016 11:18 PM (zLLv8)

317 284 Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 08, 2016 11:07 PM (P8951)

Is he sure the baby's his?
Posted by: Insomniac at May 08, 2016 11:11 PM (0mRoj)

285 Donna, oh that is so sad
Is everyone certain that the son is his?
Posted by: chemjeff - Fapplebee's Libertarian at May 08, 2016 11:11 PM (+4mdw)

Believe me, I'm wondering about that too. It would be very wise of him to insist on a paternity test - but I don't know if she would agree or if he would even ask her.

He's in love. I hope it's not blind love. This chick cheated on him once already.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 08, 2016 11:18 PM (P8951)

318 I admired the heck out of Pittsburgh when they had Jerome Bettis and Hines Ward. Those two turned out to be great guys.

A hammer has no "rivalry" with a nail.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 11:19 PM (OQ9R7)

319 Nope, neither of them made the top 500.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 08, 2016 11:11 PM (NeFrd)


That's what you get for not being a B52 pilot.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 08, 2016 11:19 PM (0dHTN)

320 McAttenboroughfacestrasse

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2016 11:19 PM (qUNWi)

321 *wanders back in after finding out John Carter is on SyFy*

Next movie - Starship Troopers...

Yeah, back to writing.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2016 11:19 PM (fU0YZ)

322 Oh that's right, chemjeff, you did go to school there. Dang, the stuff I know about all you people from AoS whom I've never even met.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 08, 2016 11:20 PM (FQKBL)

323 yeah funny how they never show technicians calibrating or maintaining the instruments...
nope, it's always "press a button" and the suspect's name is displayed on the screen.... WTF>>>
-----------------

Yeah, they brought in a cousin's company that does some whiz-bang laser imaging stuff. It took the company three days to set up the equipment. In the show, it happened during a thirty second commercial.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at May 08, 2016 11:21 PM (w35Hj)

324 A cyanide and happiness short

Junk Mail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3zjRcMnRNY

To maintain the ONT hard PG-13.


Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 08, 2016 11:21 PM (VdICR)

325 Good night all.

Everyone have a fantastic week, or at least a good story from the experience.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 08, 2016 11:21 PM (u82oZ)

326 I don't think they expected "Boaty McBoatface" to go viral... I'm sure originally the intention was good -- you know, democracy, a voice and all that!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 11:18 PM (kP16F)


Have you ever seen some of the parties (and their names) that run in British elections. Boaty McBoatface is downright dignified compared to what the Brits normally see on their election rolls.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 08, 2016 11:21 PM (zc3Db)

327 Believe me, I'm wondering about that too. It would be very wise of him to insist on a paternity test - but I don't know if she would agree or if he would even ask her.

He's in love. I hope it's not blind love. This chick cheated on him once already.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 08, 2016 11:18 PM (P8951)

I'd push him pretty hard on that. It wouldn't be the first time a girl got knocked up by the bad boy and then played a con on the nice guy.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 08, 2016 11:22 PM (0mRoj)

328 Oh, and Anna? I don't need a beer pipeline. I've got a corner store with "cheap-enough" Budweiser.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 11:22 PM (OQ9R7)

329 G'Night, NaCly Dog.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 11:22 PM (OQ9R7)

330 I'm not sure... Would naming a ship "Mohammed" be halal, or pak or wudhu or whatever it is? The sods might have gone off and blown something up -- I don't know!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 11:22 PM (kP16F)

331 X-ray Florescence Positive Material Identification.


LOL is that even a real thing? Sounds made up.

I know XRF is real, but I have never heard of XRFMI

I propose: HPNMCSIM

High Performance Nuclear Magnetic Chromatographic Suspect Identification Machine

Posted by: chemjeff - former Pittsburgh resident at May 08, 2016 11:22 PM (+4mdw)

332
she dropped me off and I told her:

"Hey... you go get what you're looking for, okay?"

She smiled and said: "You too."
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 10:48 PM (OQ9R7)

-----------------------

Two nice people who aren't meant for each other.

Posted by: iforgot at May 08, 2016 11:23 PM (5o5ek)

333 ...although that pipeline sounds intriguing.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 11:23 PM (OQ9R7)

334 "Two nice people who aren't meant for each other."
-Posted by: iforgot at May 08, 2016 11:23 PM (5o5ek)

Exactly! Uncomfortable, but Yes!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 11:24 PM (OQ9R7)

335 I'd push him pretty hard on that. It wouldn't be the first time a girl got knocked up by the bad boy and then played a con on the nice guy.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 08, 2016 11:22 PM (0mRoj)


Yep. She sounds like bad news. A gold-digger that cheats.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 08, 2016 11:24 PM (0dHTN)

336 Sunday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/729351977889607680

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/729352126594461702

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/729352369302056961

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/729352521991491585

Posted by: kbdabear at May 08, 2016 11:25 PM (k9psb)

337 Posted by: DonnaV (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 08, 2016 11:07 PM (P8951)


Why would they wait to get married until after the baby is born? That puts him at an extreme disadvantage if he actually wants to parent his child and she was just looking for a sperm donor as she would be the child's legal parent at birth but he would not.



Even if he thinks it will work out with this woman, he likely should take steps to protect his parental role. That means he should look into signing up on the putative father registry if there is one in his state and he should start a separate account to pay for some part of pre-natal costs and the delivery as well as child support once the baby is born so that he can prove to a court if necessary that he has shown intent to responsibly parent.



Hate to be a downer on such situations but I have seen too many young men burned and too many children left virtually fatherless by women who want a kid but aren't real concerned about that kid's right to his or her father.

Posted by: redbanzai at May 08, 2016 11:25 PM (nUJM6)

338 315 I don't think they expected "Boaty McBoatface" to go viral... I'm sure originally the intention was good -- you know, democracy, a voice and all that!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 11:18 PM (kP16F)



I'd like to compare this to a contest when they were building the San Diego Zoo's Wild Animal Park. The design for the park included a monorail ride and there was a contest for employees of the park to name it. Management was startled by the amount of support for Wgasa, which they assumed was Swahili for something, and ended up naming the monorail the "Wgasa Bush Line".



But Wgasa was not Swahili. It was an acronym in English. For "Who Gives A Shit, Anyway?"

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 11:25 PM (EzgxV)

339 X-ray Florescence Positive Material Identification.


LOL is that even a real thing? Sounds made up.

I know XRF is real, but I have never heard of XRFMI>>>

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zdey2hs



Posted by: Mostly lurker Willy J. at May 08, 2016 11:26 PM (zLLv8)

340 LOL is that even a real thing? Sounds made up.

I know XRF is real, but I have never heard of XRFMI

I propose: HPNMCSIM

High Performance Nuclear Magnetic Chromatographic Suspect Identification Machine

Posted by: chemjeff - former Pittsburgh resident at May 08, 2016 11:22 PM (+4mdw)


You can buy an XRF "gun" that you can hold up against a rock or an ore specimen, and it will give you an assay in real time. About 25 thousand bucks a few years ago.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 08, 2016 11:26 PM (0dHTN)

341 Have you ever seen some of the parties (and their names) that run in British elections. Boaty McBoatface is downright dignified compared to what the Brits normally see on their election rolls.

For example, there's the Official Monster Raving Loony Party, one of whose candidates I saw at the last Labour blow-out being interviewed on British TV. Quite mad, actually. http://www.omrlp.com

Posted by: Fox2! at May 08, 2016 11:26 PM (brIR5)

342 More Sunday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/729352704888324096

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/729352845590417409

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/729352991569018880

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/729353090055454721

Posted by: kbdabear at May 08, 2016 11:27 PM (k9psb)

343 Have you ever seen some of the parties (and their names) that run in British elections. Boaty McBoatface is downright dignified compared to what the Brits normally see on their election rolls.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 08, 2016 11:21 PM (zc3Db)



Tell me about it...

Posted by: Phillip Bong at May 08, 2016 11:27 PM (vBeA5)

344 ...although that pipeline sounds intriguing.
Posted by: Slapweasel
-------------

Um... non,no... we can't allow that. It might represent an ecological risk.

We know best about these matters.

Posted by: Obama at May 08, 2016 11:27 PM (w35Hj)

345 "turning a complex, interesting book into a stupid cartoon of a movie."

Er, is this not the generally understood modus operandi of Hollyweird?

It's not as though they singled out Heinlein individually.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 08, 2016 11:27 PM (noWW6)

346 There were two direct to video sequels to Starship Troopers. They were horrible, but the special effects were pretty good.

The bugs from that movie, unlike most animation from the 1990s holds up okay.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 08, 2016 11:28 PM (VdICR)

347 Posted by: kbdabear at May 08, 2016 11:25 PM (k9psb)


Nice to see those young ladies wearing their Personal Flotation Devices....

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 08, 2016 11:28 PM (0dHTN)

348 And ditto on the suggested paternity test... a court would want one anyway to establish paternity if they don't get married pre-birth.

Posted by: redbanzai at May 08, 2016 11:28 PM (nUJM6)

349 318 I admired the heck out of Pittsburgh when they had Jerome Bettis and Hines Ward. Those two turned out to be great guys.


Born and raised an hour north of Pittsburgh so I'm a 'Burgh' sports fanboy. Steelers-Penguins-Pirates! I was always partial to Jack Lambert and Willie Stargell! Grew up near Chuck Tanners house.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 08, 2016 11:28 PM (crrLc)

350 You can buy an XRF "gun" that you can hold up against a rock or an ore specimen, and it will give you an assay in real time. About 25 thousand bucks a few years ago.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 08, 2016 11:26 PM (0dHTN)


NAA is much more fun.

Posted by: The Nuclear Hat at May 08, 2016 11:29 PM (vBeA5)

351 Here's something that some of the Horde can realate to:

Some of you folks think that since I know who played third base for Saint Louis in 1986, I am filled with useless information.

I think the same thing about people who know who directed what movie and whatnot.

She wasn't a bitch. I'm not a dick. We just direct our attentions toward different escapes and hobbies.

I didn't like hers, but she made it known first that she didn't like mine.

...that is all.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 11:29 PM (OQ9R7)

352 To understand why Bartolo Colon's home run broke the internet, you have to see it in the context of a 43 year old, 5-11, 290 lb man who is to batting what Elaine Benes is to dancing

Big Sexy is the one pitcher that fans don't go for to the concession stands when he bats because the entertainment value is too good to miss.

He's also still a pretty damn good pitcher

Posted by: kbdabear at May 08, 2016 11:29 PM (k9psb)

353 But Wgasa was not Swahili. It was an acronym in English. For "Who Gives A Shit, Anyway?"

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 11:25 PM (EzgxV)


All the theory and carefully conceived plans are undone by one simple fact: people are assholes.

Embrace that knowledge, and your life will be happier.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 08, 2016 11:30 PM (fC9RO)

354 NAA is much more fun.>>>

Nuclear Asshole Analyzer?

Posted by: Mostly lurker Willy J. at May 08, 2016 11:31 PM (zLLv8)

355 "Truth is that trial lawyers don't want analytical jurors; they want people who are easily swayed by emotion."

I've found that asking "Will this take long? I've got to get back to my LSAT prep," does wonders in the voir dire phase.

A friend of mine actually did say, "Can I be fair and impartial? Your honor, I promise I will give that (crude ethnic slur) the fairest damn trial any (crude ethnic slur) could ever ask for."

Posted by: torquewrench at May 08, 2016 11:31 PM (noWW6)

356 334 Exactly! Uncomfortable, but Yes!
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 11:24 PM (OQ9R7)


Seems really normal, not particularly uncomfortable, to have two people who discover that the chemistry is not there. I've been off the market for decades, having found my happy match, but I thought that this sort of thing would be a normal part of the process.

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 11:31 PM (iMxBJ)

357 There's two kinds of people.

Tolerable assholes and intolerable assholes.

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2016 11:32 PM (qUNWi)

358 Nuclear Asshole Analyzer?

Posted by: Mostly lurker Willy J. at May 08, 2016 11:31 PM (zLLv


Neutron Activation Analysis.

Posted by: The Nuclear Hat at May 08, 2016 11:32 PM (vBeA5)

359 When I started, though, songs were longer on average. I don't know what the DJs did when the songs were three minutes or less.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 08, 2016 10:16 PM (rJUlF)


The local college station when I was in high school would play an entire side of an album. I think one side of a standard LP was just long enough to smoke a bowl.

Way-back-when, of course, the stations had the on-air talent AND an engineer.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 08, 2016 11:32 PM (ry34m)

360 I remember a date where the girl asked me who my favorite character on Friends was. I told her I never watched it and it looked awful. It was also the last date with her. Pretty but meh.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 08, 2016 11:32 PM (crrLc)

361 Tolerable assholes and intolerable assholes.>>>

So the NAA is a Go NoGo guage?

Posted by: Mostly lurker Willy J. at May 08, 2016 11:33 PM (zLLv8)

362 345 Er, is this not the generally understood modus operandi of Hollyweird?
It's not as though they singled out Heinlein individually.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 08, 2016 11:27 PM (noWW6)


Usually, overwhelmingly, yes. If you want to see the opposite, read Frederic Forsyth's The Fourth Protocol, then see the movie. I don't know how a movie could match a book better than that. And neither the book nor the movie will waste your time.

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 11:34 PM (iMxBJ)

363 I just GoOgled that "Wgasa Bush Line" -- 'tis true!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 11:34 PM (kP16F)

364 New report officially ranks all the catastrophes that could wipe us out in 2016

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hw8m6og

Posted by: The Hat o' Doom at May 08, 2016 11:34 PM (vBeA5)

365 ..."He's also still a pretty damn good pitcher."
-Posted by: kbdabear at May 08, 2016 11:29 PM (k9psb)

When we traded him *cough* "we"... like I was on the team.

When he was traded to Montreal from Cleveland, I was pissed.

Grady Sizemore, Cliff Lee and Brandon Phillips wasn't a bad deal, after all.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 11:34 PM (OQ9R7)

366 I should have answered that my favorite character on Friends was G'Kar.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 08, 2016 11:35 PM (crrLc)

367 I remember a date where the girl asked me who my favorite character on Friends was. I told her I never watched it and it looked awful. It was also the last date with her. Pretty but meh.

*wipes away manly tear*
*slow clap*

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 08, 2016 11:35 PM (VdICR)

368 Evening horde. Happy Mother's Day to the motherly 'ettes.

I'm sure your kids turned out fine....

*eyeroll


Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 08, 2016 11:35 PM (hlMPp)

369 -Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 11:31 PM (iMxBJ)

Yup.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 11:36 PM (OQ9R7)

370
348 In CA. any issue of the marriage (kid) is assumed to be the husband's child for the purposes of child support
That's how I'm paying for Paulo's indiscretion(s)

Posted by: MAx at May 08, 2016 11:36 PM (LAliD)

371 370 Presumptive paternity is the name

Posted by: MAx at May 08, 2016 11:36 PM (LAliD)

372
Leadin' the good life here.
*slogs off to scoop the litter*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at May 08, 2016 11:37 PM (w35Hj)

373 371 370 Presumptive paternity is the name
Posted by: MAx at May 08, 2016 11:36 PM (LAliD)


Injustice is another good name.

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 11:38 PM (iMxBJ)

374 I'm sure your kids turned out fine....



*eyeroll
>>>

My Mother was an Angel with angelic motives. The fact those motives didn't take in me is not her fault.

Posted by: Mostly lurker Willy J. at May 08, 2016 11:38 PM (zLLv8)

375 Blano, if you can't find acceptable lodging from the conventional apartment listings, check all of the various categories under "Housing" in Craigslist.

Keep a sharp eye out for garage-apartment type offerings, vs. traditional apartment communities.

You'll more often deal directly with the owner, and also usually won't pay as much as the retail market on newer apartment communities.

Just a matter of finding one in an acceptable locale, demographics, etc.

It's certainly worth you spending up to an hour in the ads, just to see what you might dig up.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 08, 2016 11:39 PM (McRlu)

376
Okay, so the latest thing that has me puzzled and scared is that Huma at a minimum and maybe some other Clinton attachments have been interviewed by the FBI -- and yet everything appears normal. The HRC campaign doesn't seem to be walking around with its eyes like saucers, or equivocating on any of Hillary's earlier remarks.

Are they on mood stabilizers? Do they have a pact to Act Normal and Deny Everything until T minus 1 seconds? Have they gotten their story coordinated so well that they figure they're in the clear with the FBI? Are they clueless and stupid?

Yeah, they might have Obama and Lynch's assurance that no matter what Comey says, there will be no indictment -- but isn't anyone making contingency plans? Moving their money out of the country, getting their passports up to date?

Posted by: iforgot at May 08, 2016 11:39 PM (5o5ek)

377 Puddleglum, Mr. BTEG grew up in Youngstown, right between Cleveland and Pittsburgh. People there are pretty split between Browns and Steelers. Paternal FIL rooted for the Steelers, so my husband did too. Doesn't care about hockey. Never favored baseball, but takes an interest in the Indians now because I do.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 08, 2016 11:39 PM (FQKBL)

378 351 Here's something that some of the Horde can realate to:

Some of you folks think that since I know who played third base for Saint Louis in 1986, I am filled with useless information.

I think the same thing about people who know who directed what movie and whatnot.

She wasn't a bitch. I'm not a dick. We just direct our attentions toward different escapes and hobbies.

I didn't like hers, but she made it known first that she didn't like mine.

...that is all.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 11:29 PM (OQ9R7)



Slap.....it's not a sign of Grace to be talking trash about other people's interests. The Fiancee is into quilting -- did I ever say things about how ridiculous it might be to shred perfectly good prints in order to cobble-together an artwork likely inferior to the originals? No. I have, instead, studied the subject at some length so I could be a partner to her interests.



Though, I'd have to say, professional sports and Hollywood are both very apt subjects for trash-talk.... *ducks and runs*

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 11:39 PM (EzgxV)

379 I love the commercial with the little horse and the cute chick that installs the "Horsey-Door", but I also wonder what her floors are made of.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 11:39 PM (OQ9R7)

380 ..."Though, I'd have to say, professional sports and Hollywood are both very apt subjects for trash-talk.... *ducks and runs*"
-Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 11:39 PM (EzgxV)

No need to flee...lol. That's absolutely correct.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 11:41 PM (OQ9R7)

381 My Mother was an Angel with angelic motives. The fact those motives didn't take in me is not her fault.

Posted by: Mostly lurker
--------------

Heh. I recall an article in Psychology Today (did I ever mention a brief flirtation with Psych in school?) titled, "Let's Stop Blaming Mother".

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at May 08, 2016 11:41 PM (w35Hj)

382 363 I just GoOgled that "Wgasa Bush Line" -- 'tis true!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 11:34 PM (kP16F)



O! Ye of little faith.....

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 11:42 PM (EzgxV)

383 Posted by: redbanzai at May 08, 2016 11:25 PM (nUJM6)

Thanks for the advice.

I think establishing that the child is his is the paramount thing.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 08, 2016 11:42 PM (P8951)

384 Heh. I recall an article in Psychology Today (did I ever mention a brief flirtation with Psych in school?) titled, "Let's Stop Blaming Mother".
------------
Of course, in Chelsea's case, it's a slam dunk.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at May 08, 2016 11:42 PM (w35Hj)

385 373 If only Jerry Brown was aware of this issue

Posted by: MAx at May 08, 2016 11:43 PM (LAliD)

386 A film of Stranger would be nothing but scenes of naked people talking about 1960s social issues.

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 08, 2016 11:43 PM (Kdx3B)

387 My Mother was an Angel with angelic motives. The fact those motives didn't take in me is not her fault.

Posted by: Mostly lurker Willy J. at May 08, 2016 11:38 PM (zLLv8

And that's a good thing

*and the comment was very tongue in cheek. I'm sure the Moron mothers raised some fine kids.

I loved seeing all the fake ass FB comments about peoples mothers today. Fakery fake fake.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 08, 2016 11:43 PM (hlMPp)

388 Good nite morons.

Nice ONT slublog

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 08, 2016 11:43 PM (voOPb)

389 235 Puppet masters was actually decent. Sutherland was great. And Julie Warner at her peak. Yum.
Posted by: Esch at May 08, 2016 10:56 PM (eEEbp)

Somehow, they missed "Operation Suntan" in that flick.

Not that I'd want to see Sutherland "suntan."

Posted by: Fox2! at May 08, 2016 11:44 PM (brIR5)

390
When is Captain Whitebread's class 'How to Catch and Keep a Good One' gonna be?

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at May 08, 2016 11:44 PM (KId5h)

391
I thought that this sort of thing would be a normal part of the process.

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 11:31 PM (iMxBJ)
-------------------------

In my experience it's the most frequent part of the process. Another frequent misfortune: one wants to be friends, the other wants to get romantic. Waaaaay uncomfortable, and generally the end to both the friendship and any possible romance.

Posted by: iforgot at May 08, 2016 11:44 PM (5o5ek)

392 G'Night, Misanthropic.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 11:45 PM (OQ9R7)

393 Yes, I GoOgled -- I feel so cheap and dirty now...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 11:45 PM (kP16F)

394 eleven probably spent all day coming up with the gravy boat joke for the ONT.
It was cute.

There was a UK Antiques Roadshow episode where the family's gravy boat turned out to be an 18th Century, French, women's piss-pot! Worth a fair bit too as I recall.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 08, 2016 11:45 PM (Ntwfo)

395 Yes, I GoOgled -- I feel so cheap and dirty now...

It takes a while, but you get used to it.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 08, 2016 11:46 PM (T/cxb)

396 Anyone here ever get a break on the price of something at the store?

I admit that despite my efforts to diet, I just gotta have some Bundaberg Ginger Beer sometimes. Apparently it's become quite popular as now even my local Ralphs is carrying it... for $5.99 for a four-pack. It's usually $3.99, I believe, at BevMo or Cost Plus.

Anyway I said screw it, I was craving it and decided I would call the extra two bucks a 'convenience fee' for not having to shlep to yet another store for it.

So I brought it up to the checker... it came up, total price including California taxes and 'redemption fees', $2.22.

For a split second I thought of saying something... then decided screw it, paid the pittance price and got out of Dodge quick. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 08, 2016 11:47 PM (ntObR)

397 377 Puddleglum, Mr. BTEG grew up in Youngstown, right between Cleveland and Pittsburgh. People there are pretty split between Browns and Steelers. Paternal FIL rooted for the Steelers, so my husband did too. Doesn't care about hockey. Never favored baseball, but takes an interest in the Indians now because I do.


I grew up in New Castle, east of Youngstown. I have a friend who lives in the farmland of Trumbull County, loves the Browns. His wife, childhood friend from the same area, loves the Steelers. It does happen. I'd marry a girl who was a Browns fan. I draw the line at with the Philthy Flyers. A bridge too far.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 08, 2016 11:48 PM (crrLc)

398 I think that the appropriate response in the Brit boat fiasco is that everyone should start referring to Richard Attenborough as Boaty McBoatface.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 08, 2016 11:48 PM (zc3Db)

399 Night MH. Have a great Monday.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 08, 2016 11:49 PM (hlMPp)

400 Speaking of little faith... I checked out Hat's catastrophe list. They've not got much faith in SMOD this year, but I believe!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 11:49 PM (kP16F)

401 I did not spend all day coming up with that joke.

::sticks tongue out at L::

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2016 11:49 PM (qUNWi)

402 393 Yes, I GoOgled -- I feel so cheap and dirty now...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 11:45 PM (kP16F)



Living in Silicon Valley, I heard a rumor that part of the Google reorganization that makes Alphabet the holding company also creates an organization called BOHICA.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 11:49 PM (EzgxV)

403 Good night, horde.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 08, 2016 11:49 PM (P8951)

404
A friend of mine actually did say, "Can I be fair and impartial? Your honor, I promise I will give that (crude ethnic slur) the fairest damn trial any (crude ethnic slur) could ever ask for."

Posted by: torquewrench at May 08, 2016 11:31 PM (noWW6)
---------------------

Yeah, I recall self-inflicted dismissal by judge has become a thing and judges are getting down on it. I was in a jury pool where someone getting voir-dired looked at the defendant and said something like "He's obviously a criminal with that face, and this is a heinous crime and I can tell by looking at him that he's guilty, anyone can tell" -- people in the courtroom were between gasping and stifling their incredulous laughter. Pretty clear what he was doing.

Posted by: iforgot at May 08, 2016 11:49 PM (5o5ek)

405 396 I admit that despite my efforts to diet, I just gotta have some Bundaberg Ginger Beer sometimes. Apparently it's become quite popular as now even my local Ralphs is carrying it... for $5.99 for a four-pack. It's usually $3.99, I believe, at BevMo or Cost Plus.

They make a diet version. Just got some at the local BevMo. It's pretty awesome, though I prefer the Cock n Bull for its more intense ginger kick.

I think "redemption fees" means you can return the bottles to the store for cash.

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 11:50 PM (iMxBJ)

406 Boaty McBoatface did have some good documentaries.

If I do say so myself.

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2016 11:50 PM (qUNWi)

407 Living in Silicon Valley, I heard a rumor that part of the Google reorganization that makes Alphabet the holding company also creates an organization called BOHICA.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 11:49 PM (EzgxV)


Too bad for them that Barky and BarkyCare already took the number 1-800-FU1CKYO.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 08, 2016 11:51 PM (zc3Db)

408 Ahem... That would be Sir Boaty McBoatface!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 11:51 PM (kP16F)

409
everyone should start referring to Richard Attenborough as Boaty McBoatface.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 08, 2016 11:48 PM (zc3Db)
---------------------

Heh.

Posted by: iforgot at May 08, 2016 11:51 PM (5o5ek)

410 G'Night, Donna&&&&V!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 11:51 PM (OQ9R7)

411 Splunge, Cock-n-Bull is good but IMHO the Bundaberg goes down a lot smoother. :-)

I could be wrong but I believe that despite the 'redemption fees', it's been a long long long time since customers could actually return bottles for cash. If I'm right, it's just another example of the state trying to have it both ways.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 08, 2016 11:52 PM (ntObR)

412 @402

I'm gonna take you on your word here, cooth...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 11:52 PM (kP16F)

413 Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2016 11:50 PM (qUNWi)

That's the spirit!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 08, 2016 11:53 PM (zc3Db)

414 After three expensive double-scotches and a considerable number of cheap beers, I must bid you all a fond farewell.

Sleepy-Time rolls-on, indeed.

G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 08, 2016 11:53 PM (OQ9R7)

415 That's Sir Cooth.

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2016 11:53 PM (qUNWi)

416 *flippin' stuck-up pommie bastards!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 11:54 PM (kP16F)

417
For heaven's sake, everyone's going off to dreamland.

I have to be up in six hours and I'm wide awake. Damn it.

Posted by: iforgot at May 08, 2016 11:55 PM (5o5ek)

418 So, anyone seen Civil War?

Gonna see it regardless of the reviews just because it's fun.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 08, 2016 11:56 PM (hlMPp)

419 40 Are these the Ewoks you are looking for???

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/selection-du-weekend-191-34.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2016 09:46 PM (fU0YZ)

Yub yub!

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at May 08, 2016 11:57 PM (m5xM0)

420 I'm watching "The Train Robbers" Dam Ann Margret was a hottie!

Posted by: Mostly lurker Willy J. at May 08, 2016 11:57 PM (zLLv8)

421 Are we certain "Sir" Cooth doesn't self-identify as iDame Cooth? I don't seem to recall him/her/qxyzim being properly styled any time recently!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 09, 2016 12:00 AM (kP16F)

422 Just dropping in to wish Happy Mothers Day to all the moms here..I spent my day doing not a damn thing. Also wanted to note the Invictus Games started this evening in Orlando; a worthy sporting event to cheer on. Good night all.

Posted by: IC at May 09, 2016 12:00 AM (zK6nG)

423 since I know who played third base for Saint Louis in 1986

Shoot, I know who played third base for Philadelphia in 1980 as well as 1986.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 09, 2016 12:01 AM (3C9q2)

424 Random question: How long will it take the crazed Muslims living in Western Europe to start attacking tourists?

Vacation season is coming up, and I bet those boys in Germany/Austria/etc. are getting bored molesting the local girls...

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at May 09, 2016 12:01 AM (AHDxb)

425 411 Splunge, Cock-n-Bull is good but IMHO the Bundaberg goes down a lot smoother. :-)

It does, but I like the kick.

I could be wrong but I believe that despite the 'redemption fees', it's been a long long long time since customers could actually return bottles for cash. If I'm right, it's just another example of the state trying to have it both ways.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 08, 2016 11:52 PM (ntObR)


Dunno. I'm in California, and the only thing I've tried to return is some $1.50/bottle milk bottles, old fashioned milk in glass bottles. Actually, heavy cream. Mix it with frozen berries and some Greek yoghurt for acid and thickness, and with enough mixing, and berries kept in a deep freezer, and liquid Splenda for sweetness, and it's like low-carb ice cream. Anyway, they take the bottles back no problem. So maybe it would work for the ginger beer.

Posted by: Splunge at May 09, 2016 12:02 AM (iMxBJ)

426 I saw something tonight that reminded me of a funny ONT conversation from several years ago.

One guy asked if he should feel weird about being attracted to that female mouse from Chip And Dale's Rescue Rangers.

I answered with something like, "No, not at all; Gadget is... surprisingly adorable for someone who's just waiting for the chance to poop in your corn flakes."

A Moronette (I wish I could remember who it was) said that Gadget had always been a role model for her.

I responded to that comment with, "Remind me to hide my corn flakes if you ever come over for a visit."

Anyway, here's what reminded me of that...

http://preview.tinyurl.com/h6p2hdd

Gadget-crushers, you're welcome.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at May 09, 2016 12:02 AM (0OG8D)

427 Dame Cthulhu does have a ring to it.

Posted by: eleven at May 09, 2016 12:03 AM (qUNWi)

428 "Shoot, I know who played third base for Philadelphia in 1980 as well as 1986."
-Posted by: Basement Cat at May 09, 2016 12:01 AM (3C9q2)

Mike Schmidt. Don't challenge me, good Sir!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 09, 2016 12:03 AM (OQ9R7)

429 396 Anyone here ever get a break on the price of something at the store?

I admit that despite my efforts to diet, I just gotta have some Bundaberg Ginger Beer sometimes. Apparently it's become quite popular as now even my local Ralphs is carrying it... for $5.99 for a four-pack. It's usually $3.99, I believe, at BevMo or Cost Plus.

Anyway I said screw it, I was craving it and decided I would call the extra two bucks a 'convenience fee' for not having to shlep to yet another store for it.

So I brought it up to the checker... it came up, total price including California taxes and 'redemption fees', $2.22.

For a split second I thought of saying something... then decided screw it, paid the pittance price and got out of Dodge quick. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 08, 2016 11:47 PM (ntObR)



I have a conspiracy theory that goes with that.....the prices at our local grocery store move up-and-down almost daily. The same is true at places like Harbor Freight, with coupons and such. I think (and, really, I do) that this is a real-time experiment in Economics (which, mind you, is the degree on my diploma).



There is a concept -- "price elasticity" -- which involves consumer behavior in relationship to price. If you buy the same thing no matter what it costs, it is inelastic; if you buy whatever is $0.02 cheaper, it is very elastic [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_elasticity_of_demand ].



I believe that "Big Data" is being melded with real-time analyses of price elasticity in order to try and maximize the "take" from each consumer. I also believe that this distortion of free-market capitalism is failing to provide the advantages its boosters touted [ https://www.buzzfeed.com/williamalden/inside- palantir-silicon-valleys-most-secretive-company ]

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:03 AM (EzgxV)

430

Cosplay Gadget makes me feel funny in my funny feeling place...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at May 09, 2016 12:04 AM (KId5h)

431 Evening all. Just off of a 3 day 18 hours per day stint. At 1:00 tomorrow the boat goes out for 3 days with ostensibly no communication capability. This is what I tell them, anyway.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 12:04 AM (YLidQ)

432 Many a tear has to fall but it's all in the game
All in the wonderful game that we know as love
You have words with him and your future's looking dim
But these things, your hearts can rise above

Posted by: Paean Warty Twin at May 09, 2016 12:05 AM (5nCvD)

433 Mike Schmidt. Don't challenge me, good Sir!
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 09, 2016 12:03 AM (OQ9R7)

****

Good seeing you Slap. Good night.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 12:05 AM (YLidQ)

434 429 I believe that "Big Data" is being melded with real-time analyses of price elasticity in order to try and maximize the "take" from each consumer.

Certainly. Amazon got caught at that a while back, IIRC (people would go to a different browser and see better prices), and I think the travel sites are doing it too.

Posted by: Splunge at May 09, 2016 12:05 AM (iMxBJ)

435 428

Hey, allow some of us Phightins' Phans to remember when the team wasn't an embarrassment.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 09, 2016 12:05 AM (3C9q2)

436 No problem, Basement Cat. And a great night to you MWNP!

*Switch OFF*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 09, 2016 12:07 AM (OQ9R7)

437 421 Are we certain "Sir" Cooth doesn't self-identify as iDame Cooth? I don't seem to recall him/her/qxyzim being properly styled any time recently!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 09, 2016 12:00 AM (kP16F)




"Cthulhu" already contains all the honorifics necessary for the R'lyeh party crowd. Nothing more is necessary.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:07 AM (EzgxV)

438 I believe that "Big Data" is being melded with real-time analyses of price elasticity in order to try and maximize the "take" from each consumer. I also believe that this distortion of free-market capitalism is failing to provide the advantages its boosters touted [ https://www.buzzfeed.com/williamalden/inside- palantir-silicon-valleys-most-secretive-company ]
Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:03 AM (EzgxV)

Could you provide an example?

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at May 09, 2016 12:08 AM (m5xM0)

439 10 minutes on FB replying to Mothers Day comments.

Let's see who I pissed off tomorrow.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 09, 2016 12:08 AM (hlMPp)

440 Happy Mother's Day, Moms. And enjoy sharing your public bathrooms and showers with any man who gives himself permission. It's gonna be great.

Trust us.



Posted by: Roman Polanski, Woody Allen and Bill Cosby at May 09, 2016 12:10 AM (Ndje9)

441 424 Random question: How long will it take the crazed Muslims living in Western Europe to start attacking tourists?

Vacation season is coming up, and I bet those boys in Germany/Austria/etc. are getting bored molesting the local girls...
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at May 09, 2016 12:01 AM (AHDxb)

Probably not long. They've been blowing up tourists on the Giza Plateau for years.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 09, 2016 12:10 AM (brIR5)

442 Don't be stupid be smarty

Come and join the R'lyeh party.

Posted by: eleven at May 09, 2016 12:10 AM (qUNWi)

443 How is Daredevil's practice broke after the first season? Why Elektra have an English accent? If you are going to hire a foreigner, can you get a Greek?

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at May 09, 2016 12:11 AM (m5xM0)

444 438 Could you provide an example?
Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at May 09, 2016 12:08 AM (m5xM0)


The term of art is "dynamic pricing," but a good search engine term for discovering examples is "higher prices when logged in."

Posted by: Splunge at May 09, 2016 12:11 AM (iMxBJ)

445 One thing you should never say to an Elder God: Eat me!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 09, 2016 12:11 AM (T/cxb)

446 434 429 I believe that "Big Data" is being melded with real-time analyses of price elasticity in order to try and maximize the "take" from each consumer.

Certainly. Amazon got caught at that a while back, IIRC (people would go to a different browser and see better prices), and I think the travel sites are doing it too.

Posted by: Splunge at May 09, 2016 12:05 AM (iMxBJ)



That part is old news. The new part is the attempt to directly measure price elasticity through real-time analysis of random price changes in large-volume vendors.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:12 AM (EzgxV)

447 Come and join the R'lyeh party.

Posted by: eleven at May 09, 2016 12:10 AM (qUNWi)


Party like it's 50,000,000 years B.C.!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2016 12:12 AM (UsLZp)

448 #411

The stores don't deal with returns directly anymore. Usually there will be a store in the area that has a recycling center very nearby. The recycling center pays in vouchers that can be used as a store credit or to get cash value from the store.

Some recycle places give you cash directly if they aren't in proximity to a store. Searching on 'recycle' in any map app should show you what is available in your area.

Posted by: Epobirs at May 09, 2016 12:12 AM (IdCqF)

449 Epobirs and Splunge, thanks!

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 12:13 AM (ntObR)

450 The term of art is "dynamic pricing," but a good search engine term for discovering examples is "higher prices when logged in."
Posted by: Splunge at May 09, 2016 12:11 AM (iMxBJ)

****

See Uber and Lyft "Surge" and "Prime time" pricing. That shit happens moment by moment.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 09, 2016 12:13 AM (YLidQ)

451 446 That part is old news. The new part is the attempt to directly measure price elasticity through real-time analysis of random price changes in large-volume vendors.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:12 AM (EzgxV)


Ah, I think I see what you're saying. That's a whole new level of sophistication.

Posted by: Splunge at May 09, 2016 12:13 AM (iMxBJ)

452 438 I believe that "Big Data" is being melded with real-time analyses of price elasticity in order to try and maximize the "take" from each consumer. I also believe that this distortion of free-market capitalism is failing to provide the advantages its boosters touted [ https://www.buzzfeed.com/williamalden/inside- palantir-silicon-valleys-most-secretive-company ]
Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:03 AM (EzgxV)

Could you provide an example?

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at May 09, 2016 12:08 AM (m5xM0)



I thought I was documenting along the way.....what part are you unclear about?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:13 AM (EzgxV)

453 268 I wanted to be on the jury to hear the chemist's evidence. GC-MS? HPLC?
2D NMR? Or are they still using melting points and melting point
depression?>>>

The last drug trial I did as defense counsel, the "expert" lab tech couldn't answer basic questions a out how G worked and what the science of it was. She did not know what the instrument precision was and had to be refreshed on the concept of significant digits. Didn't matter. Guilty!

Shortly thereafter I quit defending drug losers. Just could not morally justify it anymore. Got tired of seeing the same people coming through the system over and over again. Then their kids started showing up. Gah!

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at May 09, 2016 12:13 AM (JpxX6)

454 "I read a couple of interviews of Verhoeven for the movie. He had no idea of what the book meant except he believed it was fascist."

Then whoever wrote the script pulled a fast one on Verhoeven. Subtleties from the book, like Rico's rigorous teacher at school, who only wants him to be informed and be able to make his own decisions, turning out to be a charismatic leader of warriors on the other side, mark the script as having come from a fan of the book.

The government managed info-propaganda commercials for the non-citizens is also straight from the book. "Want to know more?" Then you call up and inquire about becoming a citizen, but as long as you are content to remain a non-citizen you don't need to be informed because you are not part of the republican polity. You are excluded from the deliberative democracy. Your opinions don't matter.

This couldn't work? Why not? It would be stable. The people in power are the only one's willing to fight, so who is going to overthrow them?

Posted by: AlecRawls at May 09, 2016 12:14 AM (5z7RS)

455 #443: I'm kind of surprised that the Kingpin's first-season girlfriend, Vanessa, wasn't connected to Elektra somehow. Vanessa is a Greek name, and the character spoke with some sort of European accent that I couldn't quite place but may well have been Greek.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at May 09, 2016 12:15 AM (0OG8D)

456 cthulhu, what's weird is, the Bundaberg was *marked* as being $5.99.

Then I bring it up and it's $1.99.

What do you think is the endgame with these price fluctuations? Although, I'm glad you brought this to my attention. I'm going to see what happens to the price of some large-ticket items on various browsers and computers, when I finally get around to being able to purchase them.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 12:15 AM (ntObR)

457 ...about how GC worked...

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at May 09, 2016 12:16 AM (JpxX6)

458 That part is old news. The new part is the attempt to directly measure price elasticity through real-time analysis of random price changes in large-volume vendors.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:12 AM (EzgxV)


Well, as far as Harbor Freight (and the very similar Canadian store Princess Auto) go, their practice of near-constant "sales" means that I rarely buy a big-ticket item if it's not on sale, unless I really need it "right now" and their competitors are as much or more.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2016 12:16 AM (UsLZp)

459 Are they on mood stabilizers? Do they have a pact to Act Normal and Deny Everything until T minus 1 seconds? Have they gotten their story coordinated so well that they figure they're in the clear with the FBI? Are they clueless and stupid?

I'm waiting for the "Technical Interview."

Posted by: Fox2! at May 09, 2016 12:17 AM (brIR5)

460 Triumphantly, it slithers into its due pecking-order.

Posted by: Longfellow at May 09, 2016 12:17 AM (kH9En)

461
Random question: How long will it take the crazed Muslims living in Western Europe to start attacking tourists?

Vacation season is coming up, and I bet those boys in Germany/Austria/etc. are getting bored molesting the local girls...

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at May 09, 2016 12:01 AM (AHDxb)

-----------------------

I don't think those attackers distinguish between locals and tourists; infidels are infidels. I bet the New Years Eve rape orgy in Cologne got a few non-German girls.

Posted by: iforgot at May 09, 2016 12:18 AM (5o5ek)

462 cthulu,

Sorry, I was thinking supermarket prices for some reason - not online... now I follow.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at May 09, 2016 12:19 AM (m5xM0)

463 451 446 That part is old news. The new part is the attempt to directly measure price elasticity through real-time analysis of random price changes in large-volume vendors.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:12 AM (EzgxV)

Ah, I think I see what you're saying. That's a whole new level of sophistication.

Posted by: Splunge at May 09, 2016 12:13 AM (iMxBJ)



Except that it's "sophistication" << *with the quotes*. Some recent grad jackass noticed that elasticity is a single kludge-factor number in all the textbooks and started a billion-dollar Silicon Valley startup based on measuring it precisely and ramming it down pricing strategies.....without observing that the elasticity for beer might not be the same as the elasticity for gasoline.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:19 AM (EzgxV)

464 #430: No judgment, here... cute girl, dressed up as a cute character.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at May 09, 2016 12:20 AM (0OG8D)

465 Here's more detail about the Bundaberg Ginger Beer, if it helps:

The ginger beer I bought was regular GB... but it was in the 'diet' section. At first it looked to me like they were out of the regular GB, and they *were,* on the 'regular' shelf which was directly above the diet.

The four-pack I found was hidden away behind some other four-packs of diet.

Probably not relevant, but IMHO it was a double-miracle; first that I found regular GB, and second that the price was so low once I purchased it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 12:20 AM (ntObR)

466 A borderless world.
So says our Sec of State.
And this goes unnoticed?
Gawd...

Posted by: Diogenes at May 09, 2016 12:21 AM (08Znv)

467
I'm waiting for the "Technical Interview."

Posted by: Fox2! at May 09, 2016 12:17 AM (brIR5)
---------------------

Ooh. What's that?

Posted by: iforgot at May 09, 2016 12:21 AM (5o5ek)

468 #455

Keep in mind Kingpin and Vanessa were an entirely unrelated continuity in Spider-man before Fisk began showing up in Daredevil stories. Frank Miller probably didn't have any of the Spider-man stuff in mind when he was essentially recreating Daredevil with characters like Stick and Elektra in the early 80s. Much of it required the long time readers to forget that Daredevil and the Black Widow were a couple for most of the 70s.

Posted by: Epobirs at May 09, 2016 12:22 AM (IdCqF)

469 Sometime I shall endeavour to learn how to pronounce "Cthulhu" and "R'lyeh" but tonight is not that night! I know what those are -- It's from Lovecraft and formidible, yes?

It's a far better nick for a dude than the Japanese word for the inside of a schoolgirl's thigh, I'll grant you that!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 09, 2016 12:22 AM (kP16F)

470 465 Here's more detail about the Bundaberg Ginger Beer, if it helps:

None of that would have helped me negotiate those effed-up Aussie bottle-top openers.

Ok, yes, they printed instructions on the top in large letters, but who reads those?

Posted by: Splunge at May 09, 2016 12:23 AM (iMxBJ)

471 This couldn't work? Why not? It would be stable. The people in power are the only one's willing to fight, so who is going to overthrow them?

Paraphrasing from memory --

Most "veterans" are not combat veterans; most aren't even "military" veterans. As long as they could understand the oath, a candidate had to be admitted. As Fleet Sgt Ho said. a blind person would be put to work counting the fuzz on caterpillars by feel. As MI, he appreciated Carmencita's desire to become a pilot, but her feared she would spend her enlistment peeling potatoes in a Lunar tunnel. Or may it was Martian?

Posted by: Fox2! at May 09, 2016 12:24 AM (brIR5)

472 Splunge, at least they come with pull-tabs :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 12:24 AM (ntObR)

473 456 cthulhu, what's weird is, the Bundaberg was *marked* as being $5.99.

Then I bring it up and it's $1.99.

What do you think is the endgame with these price fluctuations? Although, I'm glad you brought this to my attention. I'm going to see what happens to the price of some large-ticket items on various browsers and computers, when I finally get around to being able to purchase them.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 12:15 AM (ntObR)



You're going to have an automated "tickler" that only recommends buys at the lowest price seen in the last 180 days. Manufacturers cannot win a pricing arms-race, no matter what the consultants and marketing people say. Also, consulting and marketing firms that claim commercial benefits due to big data are going to be shredded.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:24 AM (EzgxV)

474 Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:03 AM (EzgxV)
That is what the supermarket cards were for. Albertsons doesn't use them anymore. They got all the info they needed.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 09, 2016 12:24 AM (egOGm)

475 cthulhu, so it benefits consumers in the end then. Good to hear, as it seems everything is engineered to benefit the sellers these days.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 12:25 AM (ntObR)

476 Well, as far as Harbor Freight (and the very similar Canadian store
Princess Auto) go, their practice of near-constant "sales" means that I
rarely buy a big-ticket item if it's not on sale, unless I really need it "right now" and their competitors are as much or more.>>>

I went to Northern Tool recently. The item I saw online had a different price in the store. A second item I bought didn't come up as marked on the shelf I grabbed it from. I will now always print out the price online vs arguing with the guy at the store at NT. They don't seem to be able to keep their constant sale prices wrangled.

Posted by: Mostly lurker Willy J. at May 09, 2016 12:25 AM (zLLv8)

477 Tonight on Game of Thrones, nothing happened. But the nothing that happened looked pretty.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 09, 2016 12:25 AM (6FqZa)

478 Night horde.

Cooth, haven't been arrested yet so that's a sign .

Have a blessed Monday and even better week

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 09, 2016 12:26 AM (hlMPp)

479 iForgot:

Poly.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 09, 2016 12:26 AM (brIR5)

480 #468: Gotcha. I'm only vaguely aware of the general storyline of Daredevil from when I used to work in a comic book shop; I picked up a lot of my knowledge from osmosis. I never really got into the Daredevil comics, but I am really enjoying the Netflix show. It's excellent!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at May 09, 2016 12:27 AM (0OG8D)

481 Here's more detail about the Bundaberg Ginger Beer, if it helps:

The ginger beer I bought was regular GB... but it was in the 'diet' section. At first it looked to me like they were out of the regular GB, and they *were,* on the 'regular' shelf which was directly above the diet.

The four-pack I found was hidden away behind some other four-packs of diet.

Probably not relevant, but IMHO it was a double-miracle; first that I found regular GB, and second that the price was so low once I purchased it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 12:20 AM (ntObR)


So they called it Bundaberg because Bunga-bungaberg didn't test-market very well?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2016 12:27 AM (UsLZp)

482 Willy J., WalMart's already done that to me. I needed a new keyboard for my computer and they had a great-reviewed Logitech available for $19.99.

So I get to the store and it's $29.99. I go to the regular checkout and they tell me "sorry, if you don't buy it online it's $29.99."

Okay, fine. I pulled out my smartphone and purchased it online at walmart.com, right there.

15 minutes later I went to their Online Purchase counter with the same exact keyboard in my hand. They sold it to me for $19.99, no problem.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 12:28 AM (ntObR)

483 469 Sometime I shall endeavour to learn how to pronounce "Cthulhu" and "R'lyeh" but tonight is not that night! I know what those are -- It's from Lovecraft and formidible, yes?

It's a far better nick for a dude than the Japanese word for the inside of a schoolgirl's thigh, I'll grant you that!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 09, 2016 12:22 AM (kP16F)




Here's a quick guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOA5Chz3iU4 -- remember, it's not designed for human anatomy in the first place.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:28 AM (EzgxV)

484 Good night, RWC!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at May 09, 2016 12:29 AM (0OG8D)

485 AOP, LOL. Alls I knows is it tastes good... :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 12:29 AM (ntObR)

486 474 Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:03 AM (EzgxV)
That is what the supermarket cards were for. Albertsons doesn't use them anymore. They got all the info they needed.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 09, 2016 12:24 AM (egOGm)



They now have other ways of looting your personal connections. Ever notice how often companies want to link your phone number, a credit card, and your email address?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:30 AM (EzgxV)

487 475 cthulhu, so it benefits consumers in the end then. Good to hear, as it seems everything is engineered to benefit the sellers these days.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 12:25 AM (ntObR)



It benefits totalitarians -- without benefiting sellers, who paid for the system. Consumers still get looted -- but not by the guys that paid for the looting.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:33 AM (EzgxV)

488 472 Splunge, at least they come with pull-tabs :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 12:24 AM (ntObR)


They do. And that's the problem. Pull-tabs are meant to be on cans. I'm all for radical change, if it means, say, shutting down the IRS/EPA/DoE, but there is a limit.

Posted by: Splunge at May 09, 2016 12:33 AM (iMxBJ)

489 478 Night horde.

Cooth, haven't been arrested yet so that's a sign .

Have a blessed Monday and even better week

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 09, 2016 12:26 AM (hlMPp)



Been on a date recently? Was she wearing a wire?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:34 AM (EzgxV)

490 Slap.....it's not a sign of Grace to be talking trash about other people's interests. The Fiancee is into quilting -- did I ever say things about how ridiculous it might be to shred perfectly good prints in order to cobble-together an artwork likely inferior to the originals? No. I have, instead, studied the subject at some length so I could be a partner to her interests.

If you're going to quilt, go to the thrift store & buy up rags & quilt. But ... one does have to learn, so cutting quarters of perfectly good fabric only to sew them up again is ... baby steps ...

Posted by: Adriane the Quilting Critic ... at May 09, 2016 12:35 AM (AoK0a)

491 @483

Sounds like the opening stanza of Beowulf!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 09, 2016 12:36 AM (kP16F)

492 The four-pack I found was hidden away behind some other four-packs of diet.

Some employee is going to be very disappointed at closing time.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 09, 2016 12:37 AM (brIR5)

493 Or Hitler tweaking in the Fuhrerbunker as the Russians close in...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 09, 2016 12:37 AM (kP16F)

494 Have a blessed Monday and even better week

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 09, 2016 12:26 AM (hlMPp)



Been on a date recently? Was she wearing a wire?
Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:34 AM (EzgxV)

Not yet. But we're giving up on lunch and taking her pooch to Governent Island. Lot of water...lot of hiding spots

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 09, 2016 12:39 AM (hlMPp)

495
They now have other ways of looting your
personal connections. Ever notice how often companies want to link your
phone number, a credit card, and your email address?
Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:30 AM (EzgxV)


I went to [local NW tire company] last weekend to pick up a car battery. I had the original in one hand and $100 in the other. I was having a pissy day to start with and the counter guy asked me for my phone number.

I asked why, and he started fumbling about the warrantee and customer service.
I told him I just wanted to buy a car battery, if this one didn't work I sure wasn't coming back for another one, and I really didn't want my purchase tracked.

About this time the office manager wandered over and said they didn't have to have the number but they needed a name, so make one up.

I suggested Fess Parker. The kid asked if I wanted to use that name and I said I didn't care, it was his system that needed a name.

So, a 5 minute exchange took 20 minutes, not because I cared, not because information was needed, not because the purchase was critical or the material controlled: it was because some ass who built a sales program thought he needed that information for no reason.

AAARGH.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 09, 2016 12:43 AM (ry34m)

496 Should have used John Dunne. Then you could have rung all of the changes on both names and really screwed them up.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 09, 2016 12:46 AM (brIR5)

497 Kindltot, reminds me of the Radio Shack "name and address?" days.

I was already sick of it by the time I was 14 years old. Once I told 'em my name was Wally Cox.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 12:46 AM (ntObR)

498 494 Have a blessed Monday and even better week

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 09, 2016 12:26 AM (hlMPp)



Been on a date recently? Was she wearing a wire?
Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:34 AM (EzgxV)

Not yet. But we're giving up on lunch and taking her pooch to Governent Island. Lot of water...lot of hiding spots

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 09, 2016 12:39 AM (hlMPp)




I want to be abundantly clear -- lads and lassies have been enjoying each others' company since they were both primordial goo; but only recently has it been the case that women could petition government to utterly wreck men's lives over bullshit political tokens unrelated to actual wrongdoing. In the absence of government interference, I might be cheering you on. Under current circumstances, I can only brace myself for bad news.



Good luck.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:47 AM (EzgxV)

499 Is the orchestra playing Williams in the intermission one of Her Majesty's regimental bands?

Posted by: Fox2! at May 09, 2016 12:48 AM (brIR5)

500 Happy Mothers' Day horde!

Old Dominion Dad works with big data and insurance. They mostly use it for competitive, but smart pricing and fraud detection. What data can be gathered and how it can be used is fascinating. What he sees is all very moral and smart business use. My concern is how government will steal the data, using the courts and use it against us.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at May 09, 2016 12:48 AM (GzDYP)

501 I believe that "Big Data" is being melded with real-time analyses of
price elasticity in order to try and maximize the "take" from each
consumer. I also believe that this distortion of free-market capitalism
is failing to provide the advantages its boosters touted [
https://www.buzzfeed.com/williamalden/inside-
palantir-silicon-valleys-most-secretive-company ]

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:03 AM (EzgxV)



I agree with everything you said except that is not a distortion of free market capitalism... it is actually the epitome of free market capitalism.




A thing is worth exactly what someone will pay for it so it will be worth a different amount to each customer. If a seller can get at that individual "worth" information, they would be fools not to vary the price to maximize profits.

Posted by: redbanzai at May 09, 2016 12:49 AM (nUJM6)

502 Albertsons has merged with Safeway (Vons in my region), and they're probably going to bring it back so that one card works throughout the empire. This is how it works with Kroger owned chains. My Ralphs card works at QFC in Sequim, WA.

I had a few experiences that made me always check the online price for any non-food item at Walmart. The first time was a Vita memory card that was $30 online and $40 in the store.

Posted by: Epobirs at May 09, 2016 12:49 AM (IdCqF)

503 Epobirs, interesting. Here in SoCal, Vons uses a card but Albertsons doesn't.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 12:50 AM (ntObR)

504 495
They now have other ways of looting your
personal connections. Ever notice how often companies want to link your
phone number, a credit card, and your email address?
Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:30 AM (EzgxV)

I went to [local NW tire company] last weekend to pick up a car battery. I had the original in one hand and $100 in the other. I was having a pissy day to start with and the counter guy asked me for my phone number.

I asked why, and he started fumbling about the warrantee and customer service.
I told him I just wanted to buy a car battery, if this one didn't work I sure wasn't coming back for another one, and I really didn't want my purchase tracked.

About this time the office manager wandered over and said they didn't have to have the number but they needed a name, so make one up.

I suggested Fess Parker. The kid asked if I wanted to use that name and I said I didn't care, it was his system that needed a name.

So, a 5 minute exchange took 20 minutes, not because I cared, not because information was needed, not because the purchase was critical or the material controlled: it was because some ass who built a sales program thought he needed that information for no reason.

AAARGH.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 09, 2016 12:43 AM (ry34m)




The expect to make more on data mining tomorrow than they do with customer satisfaction today. Conduct your affairs appropriately. I recently opened an HP warranty tag with the phone number 1-408-555-1212 and told them not to call. Then got an email saying, "I tried to call....." What kind of dumbshit needs more of a fuck-off than "1-XXX-555-1212"???

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:51 AM (EzgxV)

505 Barnes & Noble is also big on providing one price in the store and another online. I've learned the hard way to *always* purchase their merchandise online first, then pick it up in-store. The difference can be frightening sometimes...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 12:52 AM (ntObR)

506 When I went back to school, I did not want my name listed in the phone directory. Remember those? I can't get one from Bellsouth anymore.

Anyhow, I asked about an unlisted number and learned that there was a fee involved. Well, I was dead broke, could barely afford the phone, so I asked if I could list it in any name that I cared to. "Sure" they said.

So, for three years I was listed in the book as M. Faraday. Quite handy. If someone called and said, "Is this Mr. Faraday", I knew that it was no one that I wanted to talk to, and could say, "No, there's no such person".

Additionally, any mail that arrived addressed to M. Faraday went directly into the trash.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 09, 2016 12:52 AM (9mTYi)

507 Albertsons has merged with Safeway (Vons in my region)

And since they are no longer printing the Safeway brand packages, my access to microwavable hum bao have been critically curtailed. Poke me with a stick at your peril.

Posted by: Adriane the Ethnic Cuisine Critic ... at May 09, 2016 12:54 AM (AoK0a)

508 Ping Epobirs, if you're still here...

i live in the SE Valley, and have way too much free time. if you need a lift, anywhere within reason, such as Pasadena, gimme a holler at my nick, plus at drunkenbastards dot org.

i'll try to go to bed early enough to check my mail in the morning to be helpful

it's not like i have a j*b to go to, or anything.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 09, 2016 12:55 AM (XOZxO)

509 Mike, LOL.

It works with *live* solicitors too. I always tell these folks who want to do thousands of dollars of work on our home, I don't own, I rent, and the owner lives somewhere in Idaho. Gets 'em to give up every time.

Actually the owner is my mom, and she's usually in the recliner chair right behind me when I answer the door.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 12:55 AM (ntObR)

510 501 I believe that "Big Data" is being melded with real-time analyses of
price elasticity in order to try and maximize the "take" from each
consumer. I also believe that this distortion of free-market capitalism
is failing to provide the advantages its boosters touted [
https://www.buzzfeed.com/williamalden/inside-
palantir-silicon-valleys-most-secretive-company ]

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:03 AM (EzgxV)



I agree with everything you said except that is not a distortion of free market capitalism... it is actually the epitome of free market capitalism.




A thing is worth exactly what someone will pay for it so it will be worth a different amount to each customer. If a seller can get at that individual "worth" information, they would be fools not to vary the price to maximize profits.

Posted by: redbanzai at May 09, 2016 12:49 AM (nUJM6)



Free-market capitalism depends on "price discovery" to allocate resources. If a thing is worth more to person A and less to person B, then it goes to A. Presenting a different price to person A and person B distorts the market. Maybe person A likes steak at $8, but would have beans if it were $0.50 less.....while person B likes steak at $6, but would only have beans if they were $1 -- quoting steak and beans to them at different ratios and prices can only assure they are both less satisfied than they would be under a free market.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:58 AM (EzgxV)

511 They're working on it. A lot of things between the two supermarket chains are already in alignment. I do nearly all of the food shopping for the household and pay close attention to the promo prices and such. The weekly flyers that come in the mail on Tuesdays are now about 90% identical. One of the differences is the number of items required for multiple purchase deals, 4 at Vons and 5 at Albertsons. And there will always be a few items where they test the waters by having the promo price be different, say $1.48 at one chain and $1.79 at the other.

If I could pay attention to things Cisco manuals the way I scrutinize those flyers, I'd be much more employable.

Posted by: Epobirs at May 09, 2016 12:59 AM (IdCqF)

512
iForgot:

Poly.
Posted by: Fox2! at May 09, 2016 12:26 AM (brIR5)
------------------

Oooohhhhh!!!!!

Wait, could that happen at this stage? The frenly chat, no pressure, not subpoenaed not under oath?

I'm a tad obsessed with this story and I actually just sat through TEN MINUTES of an interview with Hillary because the headline included "and we'll ask her about her emails and the FBI." It was ten (out of 14) minutes before that topic came up. What came before would have melted the needles on a polygraph and made the Pentothal molecules jump out of Hillary's pores screaming in protest.

Posted by: iforgot at May 09, 2016 12:59 AM (5o5ek)

513 When I'm in a store, I wonder if taking out my "smart"phone to comparison shop is such a hot idea... Use the local wi-fi, my precious cellular data, go outside or somewhere else entirely? Does visiting walmart. com at WallyWorld compromise my bargaining position? I installed the "gas buddy" app recently and now I'm looking for the posted fuel prices to change as I near the gas stations!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 09, 2016 01:02 AM (kP16F)

514 It works with *live* solicitors too. I always tell these folks who want to do thousands of dollars of work on our home, I don't own, I rent, and the owner lives somewhere in Idaho. Gets 'em to give up every time.

Actually the owner is my mom, and she's usually in the recliner chair right behind me when I answer the door.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 12:55 AM (ntObR)


"Oh, great! You finally showed up to fix the "lifetime" roof I bought last year, that began leaking the first time it rained. Good thing I got that extended warranty, eh?"


(scurrying sounds, car door slams)

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2016 01:02 AM (UsLZp)

515
OMG, this dog stinks.
I with I could fart back at him. But, he's sleeping & wouldn't even know it if I did. Hes an asshole, but...

Posted by: A random monkey with a typewriter at May 09, 2016 01:03 AM (WFzg2)

516 #506

Some years ago, I had an answering machine message that said, "I don't exist right now but if you'd like to define the probability of my occurring again at some point in the future, leave a message."

Posted by: Epobirs at May 09, 2016 01:03 AM (IdCqF)

517 cthulhu, does your theory extend to credit cards?

I can't help but notice the better your credit nowadays, not only do you get a larger limit of course, but now it appears to me at least, high-end cards are offering more and more 'cash back.' I imagine most wealthy people today charge *everything* and pay off their bill *every* month for that extra money.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 01:04 AM (ntObR)

518 Just weird OT stuff. Here's a quote from The movie The Train Robbers. It's John Wayne (Lane) to the young Cowboy Ben


"You're a man, you're stuck with it. You'll find yourself standing your
ground and fightin' when you oughtta run, speakin' out when you oughtta
keep your mouth shut, doin' things that seem wrong to a lot of people
but you'll do them all the same. You're gonna spend the rest of your
life getting' up one more time when you're knocked down, so you better
start gettin' used to it. "

Bring male used to make way more sense when I was young.

Posted by: Mostly lurker Willy J. at May 09, 2016 01:05 AM (zLLv8)

519
We had the best Mother's Day I can remember today.

All 8 of us got together and I did the grill duty--hotdogs, sausages, couple steaks, burgers and salads, nothing fancy,just good food.

And a ton of laughter.

At one point, I stood aside and watched my family and felt such pride in them that things got a bit dusty.

They are my legacy, and that is most sufficient.

Wife and I did a pretty good job for 2 amateurs.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 09, 2016 01:05 AM (P/8aq)

520 Zettai, I've done exactly that: gone to Best Buy, checked the price of something, and ran it against Amazon's price.

Sure, their ads say "we match internet prices!" And in at least one case a few years ago, BB did just that. But it was obvious they weren't happy about it.

Wouldn't surprise me if eventually these stores try to start jamming or weirding up your phone wi-fi, or perhaps make it so you can't check anything on your phone except their own website(s).

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 01:06 AM (ntObR)

521 You're gonna spend the rest of your
life getting' up one more time when you're knocked down, so you better
start gettin' used to it. "
--------

Oooo. That's just icky and stupid-head.

Posted by: Barney the Dinosaur at May 09, 2016 01:07 AM (9mTYi)

522 #507

Most of the products are still if you wade through the myriad store brands that have replaced the single store brand that once sufficed. Now there will be at least three for any big chain. One will be the organic specialty. None of them will be the actual name of the store, though it may be related if you know some background, like the Kirkland brand at Costco.

Best Buy went pretty nuts with this for a while, having at least five internal brands when my brother was doing Geek Squad work.


Posted by: Epobirs at May 09, 2016 01:08 AM (IdCqF)

523 irongrampa - A life well lived IG.

*salutes*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 09, 2016 01:08 AM (9mTYi)

524 AOP, LOL.

I know of one writer who's a complete dipshit politically but he has great advice for those solicitors. He just calls them liars and con artists to their faces and watches (or listens to) them sputter.

"Hi, I'm calling to follow up on your roof..."

"What follow up?"

"Uh, you said you wanted us to call you back in a few months..."

"No I didn't. You're a liar. Why do you do a job where you know you're conning people out of their hard-earned money? Does it feel good to you?"

"Uhhhh......"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 01:10 AM (ntObR)

525 Epobirs, yup. Radio Shack used to have a ton of internal brands. Realistic, Archer, Tandy, Supertape, Optimus...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 01:11 AM (ntObR)

526 irongrandpa, that sounds just perfect. So glad you spent the day well with everyone you love

Posted by: L, Elle at May 09, 2016 01:11 AM (6IPEM)

527 513 When I'm in a store, I wonder if taking out my "smart"phone to comparison shop is such a hot idea... Use the local wi-fi, my precious cellular data, go outside or somewhere else entirely? Does visiting walmart. com at WallyWorld compromise my bargaining position? I installed the "gas buddy" app recently and now I'm looking for the posted fuel prices to change as I near the gas stations!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 09, 2016 01:02 AM (kP16F)



VPN escapes the "local wi-fi" trap. You pay to source your wi-fi elsewhere. The local system sees only encryption.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 01:12 AM (EzgxV)

528 Evening, fellow mortals of the realm! Looks like a nice crowd involved in deep topics. Or is it a deep crowd invol.... never mind.

The happy news: Saw my first lightning bug of the season!

The unhappy news: It was smeared on the windshied during the drive home.

Nevertheless... lightning bugs!

Posted by: mindful webworker - deadly menace at May 09, 2016 01:12 AM (gJBE5)

529 i LMFAO at the people who call my house to arrange the yearly service of our AS/Heating ducts...

our house is original 1942, with no AC and only two floor heaters and two fire places.

FOAD, asshats.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 09, 2016 01:13 AM (XOZxO)

530 There was a time when Best Buy got a lot of bad PR for throwing people out of the store if they were seen making notes about prices on paper. Nowadays they have free WiFi in the store.

Posted by: Epobirs at May 09, 2016 01:15 AM (IdCqF)

531 517 cthulhu, does your theory extend to credit cards?

I can't help but notice the better your credit nowadays, not only do you get a larger limit of course, but now it appears to me at least, high-end cards are offering more and more 'cash back.' I imagine most wealthy people today charge *everything* and pay off their bill *every* month for that extra money.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 01:04 AM (ntObR)



I typically charge nearly every purchase and don't have a balance on any card. Discover gives me 1% to look at my charge slips -- which are typically beer, food, and construction materials.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 01:15 AM (EzgxV)

532 cthulhu, nice. But a quick Google search says (granted, says, not proves) that there are cards out there offering as much as 6% cash back.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 01:17 AM (ntObR)

533 I happened to be standing in the room when my 85 year old father got a call* from a deeply accented "Microsoft Representative" wanting to help him fix his "Microsoft Computer" Dad's funny as hell response (at least to me) " I don't have a Microsoft computer that's an operating system." And silence from the phone.

* all my dad's calls are done on speaker phone

Posted by: Mostly lurker Willy J. at May 09, 2016 01:17 AM (zLLv8)

534 AutoZone, NatTire,etc have good return policies (user friendly) and they customarily use a tele number it doesn't have to be your number but you do need to remember the number you give them.
Then you can walk into any AutoZone at any time with that funky battery and get a new one.



Posted by: Paean Warty Twin at May 09, 2016 01:17 AM (ylXIx)

535 I lost my Vons card *years* ago, it's probably at the bottom of a landfill by now, but I still remember the very old, now non-functional phone number that I associated with it when I signed up for it in 1997. So it's still usable.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 01:19 AM (ntObR)

536 532 cthulhu, nice. But a quick Google search says (granted, says, not proves) that there are cards out there offering as much as 6% cash back.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 01:17 AM (ntObR)




I've tried to do business with Chase twice in the last decade, only to decide they were asshole grifters. "Offering" ain't "reliably providing".

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 01:20 AM (EzgxV)

537 Best Trump campaign slogan
I'll open the books and see where all your money has gone

Posted by: lousagirl at May 09, 2016 01:20 AM (9plvG)

538 Hey there, Miss Lou!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 09, 2016 01:22 AM (T/cxb)

539 cthulhu, right :-)

I'm annoyed with Chase because they don't offer a secured credit card for those of us who would like to rebuild our credit someday.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 01:22 AM (ntObR)

540 Also, re grifting: if you drive by your Chase branch two days after your most recent deposit and find it's now a Taco Bell, that's a bad sign. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 01:23 AM (ntObR)

541 Time for the old folk. Didn't realize it was so late.


Remember, y'all,we are Americans, so the head is held HIGH--most especially during these times.

Celebrate the vision of our country as it is underneath the layer of filth deposited by the prog left.

Goodnite,good people. Stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 09, 2016 01:23 AM (P/8aq)

542 Hi Blanco

Posted by: lousagirl at May 09, 2016 01:23 AM (9plvG)

543
my precious cellular data
--------------------

T-Mobile. Lousy coverage but unlimited data, just sayin'.

Posted by: iforgot at May 09, 2016 01:24 AM (5o5ek)

544 Well, bed time for me. Tired and stiff. I have been gutting out an old Vogue motorhome. Today saw the radiator, master cylinder, transmission cooler and A/C condenser come out, plus the front frame crossmember. Much of this done from a kneeling position on the ground, or flat on my back under the damn thing. Probably 3/4 of the work to remove the engine/tranny is done. Setting it up so that the engine will rest on a support of some kind, and then I simply roll the vehicle backwards away from it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2016 01:24 AM (UsLZp)

545 537 Best Trump campaign slogan
I'll open the books and see where all your money has gone

Posted by: lousagirl at May 09, 2016 01:20 AM (9plvG)



Lousagirl!!!!!



Do you have backchannel to Hat? I have a pressing reason to know this.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 01:24 AM (EzgxV)

546 AOP, you're a manly man :-)

Goodnight.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 01:25 AM (ntObR)

547 Haha, no just stopping by to read my favorite commenters ever!

Posted by: lousagirl at May 09, 2016 01:25 AM (9plvG)

548 541 Time for the old folk. Didn't realize it was so late.


Remember, y'all,we are Americans, so the head is held HIGH--most especially during these times.

Celebrate the vision of our country as it is underneath the layer of filth deposited by the prog left.

Goodnite,good people. Stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 09, 2016 01:23 AM (P/8aq)



IG, you are an inspiration to us all -- and 99-44/100ths morons would buy you a beer if you were in the same room with us. Salud!

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 01:26 AM (EzgxV)

549 Steve,
Chase is almost as bad as Capital One. Avoid.

Hell, they might even be the the same entity?

Posted by: A random monkey with a typewriter at May 09, 2016 01:26 AM (WFzg2)

550 547 Haha, no just stopping by to read my favorite commenters ever!

Posted by: lousagirl at May 09, 2016 01:25 AM (9plvG)



Got backchannel to anyone I know?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 01:28 AM (EzgxV)

551 Times have gotten *really* bad for Capital One, they can't decide which divisive controversial celebrity they want for new TV ads. :-P

"Michael Moore? Amy Schumer?! Lena Dunham?!? So many choices!!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 01:28 AM (ntObR)

552 Chase is almost as bad as Capital One. Avoid.

Hell, they might even be the the same entity?

Posted by: A random monkey with a typewriter at May 09, 2016 01:26 AM (WFzg2)


*whistles innocently*

Posted by: Gnomes of Zurich at May 09, 2016 01:29 AM (vBeA5)

553 Free-market capitalism depends on "price discovery"
to allocate resources. If a thing is worth more to person A and less to
person B, then it goes to A. Presenting a different price to person A
and person B distorts the market. Maybe person A likes steak at $8, but
would have beans if it were $0.50 less.....while person B likes steak at
$6, but would only have beans if they were $1 -- quoting steak and
beans to them at different ratios and prices can only assure they are
both less satisfied than they would be under a free market.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:58 AM (EzgxV)

That assumes that 1) there is only one thing to sell and 2) that the data mining is not a form of price discovery and 3) customers are not better off in any transaction where they are freely exchanging their money for my goods. All of those premises are dubious.


If I am producing many of an item, I, as a seller am better off if I can sell as many of my product as possible at as high a price as possible (with a price floor of my production costs). In the past, only one price was possible because I had no way of knowing the utility each of my customers. Information asymmetry meant that I approximated a "one price" that maximized my profits in a system that accounted for both that information asymmetry and the difficulty in changing prices (since it had to be done for all transactions).


In that world, I am worse off since I am losing profits both from non-sales to people who did not value my product enough to purchase it at that "one price" (but who would buy it at a price above my production costs) and from sales to people who would have gladly paid more because they valued my product at above the price I was charging. Both the information asymmetry and the sticky prices are market distortions that lower my profits and, in some instances, deny my products to people who would gladly buy them at a lower price (and whom I would gladly sell to if I knew that price).

So long as no one is forced to buy my products and I am not forced to sell my products to anyone, a system where I can (relatively) cheaply capture utility information allows me to be better off and allows the total utility experienced by my customers from purchasing my products to increase also.


Again a "price" is just the intersection of what a customer is willing to pay and a seller is willing to sell for. In a free market without information asymmetry, that can lead to many many prices for the same item. That is not a distortion of the market... that is the market.

Posted by: redbanzai at May 09, 2016 01:30 AM (nUJM6)

554 I've found Wells Fargo to be very decent. Debit card got stolen by some a-hole who was using 'em to reload Starbucks giftcards. I called 'em about it, and they quickly slapped a stop on it, sent me a new card, refunded the money that was stolen, then asked whether I'd want to prosecute (my answer was a very unambiguous "throw the book at 'em.")

In terms of doing right by their customers, I don't think it gets any better than that in the banking world.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 09, 2016 01:31 AM (J+mig)

555 I enjoy Bourdain's show just for the whole Travel aspect, as I tend to stay in my happy little city, but oh man is this guy a complete tool.

Throughout Parts Unknown, which I'm currently watching through for the first time since CNN is airing 4-5 a week, he has no problem constantly mocking anything remotely Christian while going out of his way to appease a certain religion, I'll have you guess which, to the point he'll openly pray before eating and whitewash their crimes.

The guy is a major ass with a great production team around him.

Posted by: Rbastid at May 09, 2016 01:33 AM (XwTyM)

556 Capitol One must be desperate: they've been sending *me* pre-approved credit card applications...

/broke mofo

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 09, 2016 01:33 AM (XOZxO)

557 Cato, I'm with WF and have found them to be not too bad. I especially like that if/when I have an overdraft, they give me 24 hours to cure it before charging me for it. (Maybe that's standard across the board but in the past I had major issues with overdrafts.)

And they have a good-rated secured card, of which I plan to get one by the end of this year.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 01:33 AM (ntObR)

558 Dang, now I'm paranoid

Posted by: lousagirl at May 09, 2016 01:33 AM (9plvG)

559
Best Trump campaign slogan
I'll open the books and see where all your money has gone

Posted by: lousagirl at May 09, 2016 01:20 AM (9plvG)
--------------------

Suggested, or actually uttered?

I suppose it's petty of me, but I also want him to prosecute the crimes of the Obama administration. Open up the books on that.

Posted by: iforgot at May 09, 2016 01:34 AM (5o5ek)

560 558
Dang, now I'm paranoid

Posted by: lousagirl at May 09, 2016 01:33 AM (9plvG)


These days, if you ain't paranoid, you're insane.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 09, 2016 01:34 AM (J+mig)

561 Dang, now I'm paranoid

You've just become sufficiently aware.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 09, 2016 01:35 AM (T/cxb)

562 redbanzai, hmmm...

Anyway. Gotta turn in, thanks to all for the great chat, hope you all had a great weekend and that the next one comes without too much muss and fuss for y'all.

Goodnight!

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 01:35 AM (ntObR)

563 BB&T has caught 3 card numbers in our household being used unusually. We were asked quickly and were able to say these were not us, they shut down cards and new ones sent promptly. We were not charged a dime.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at May 09, 2016 01:39 AM (GzDYP)

564 cthulhu: IG, you are an inspiration to us all -- and 99-44/100ths morons would buy you a beer if you were in the same room with us. Salud!''

Speaking for the 66/100ths, let me just say... I might not be able to afford to buy the beer myself... but I'd mug someone borrow the money to buy it.

Posted by: mindful webworker - searching behind the couch cushions... again... at May 09, 2016 01:39 AM (gJBE5)

565
Drank coffee late in the day today. I'm wide awake. It's 12:42 my time and I have to get up at 5:00. I'm shutting the laptop lid now, turning off the light, and hoping for the best.

See you on the flip side, folks and folkettes.

Posted by: iforgot at May 09, 2016 01:39 AM (5o5ek)

566 redbanzai, hmmm...



Anyway. Gotta turn in, thanks to all for the great chat, hope you
all had a great weekend and that the next one comes without too much
muss and fuss for y'all.



Goodnight!

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 01:35 AM (ntObR)

Night Steve!

Posted by: redbanzai at May 09, 2016 01:39 AM (nUJM6)

567 The frenly chat...

on the box.

No sweat.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 09, 2016 01:40 AM (brIR5)

568 563
BBT has caught 3 card numbers in our household being used
unusually. We were asked quickly and were able to say these were not us,
they shut down cards and new ones sent promptly. We were not charged a
dime.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at May 09, 2016 01:39 AM (GzDYP)


SunTrust, in Florida, used to do that for me. They'd often end up calling me to confirm it whenever I did something weird like take a vacation upstate, or buy a new laptop. They're not national, though, and that's why I'm with Wells Fargo now.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 09, 2016 01:41 AM (J+mig)

569 G'night everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 09, 2016 01:42 AM (T/cxb)

570 Just because you're paranoid, that doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

Posted by: A random monkey with a typewriter at May 09, 2016 01:43 AM (WFzg2)

571 Gettin' too type to drunk... Fadin' fast!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 09, 2016 01:47 AM (kP16F)

572 redbanzai,
odd to see you here at this hour. Not a bad thing at all!
Hope your boy is feeling well by now!
(Sorry - I don't frequent the day threads so much anymore)

- Chi

Posted by: A random monkey with a typewriter at May 09, 2016 01:51 AM (WFzg2)

573 553 Free-market capitalism depends on "price discovery"
to allocate resources. If a thing is worth more to person A and less to
person B, then it goes to A. Presenting a different price to person A
and person B distorts the market. Maybe person A likes steak at $8, but
would have beans if it were $0.50 less.....while person B likes steak at
$6, but would only have beans if they were $1 -- quoting steak and
beans to them at different ratios and prices can only assure they are
both less satisfied than they would be under a free market.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 12:58 AM (EzgxV)

That assumes that 1) there is only one thing to sell and 2) that the data mining is not a form of price discovery and 3) customers are not better off in any transaction where they are freely exchanging their money for my goods. All of those premises are dubious.


If I am producing many of an item, I, as a seller am better off if I can sell as many of my product as possible at as high a price as possible (with a price floor of my production costs). In the past, only one price was possible because I had no way of knowing the utility each of my customers. Information asymmetry meant that I approximated a "one price" that maximized my profits in a system that accounted for both that information asymmetry and the difficulty in changing prices (since it had to be done for all transactions).


In that world, I am worse off since I am losing profits both from non-sales to people who did not value my product enough to purchase it at that "one price" (but who would buy it at a price above my production costs) and from sales to people who would have gladly paid more because they valued my product at above the price I was charging. Both the information asymmetry and the sticky prices are market distortions that lower my profits and, in some instances, deny my products to people who would gladly buy them at a lower price (and whom I would gladly sell to if I knew that price).

So long as no one is forced to buy my products and I am not forced to sell my products to anyone, a system where I can (relatively) cheaply capture utility information allows me to be better off and allows the total utility experienced by my customers from purchasing my products to increase also.


Again a "price" is just the intersection of what a customer is willing to pay and a seller is willing to sell for. In a free market without information asymmetry, that can lead to many many prices for the same item. That is not a distortion of the market... that is the market.

Posted by: redbanzai at May 09, 2016 01:30 AM (nUJM6)




The beauty of the free market is that it can perfectly allocate everything for everyone, using only "price discovery" as its mechanism. If you want something between 7 AM and 9 PM, you pay the Kroger price of XXXX, if you want the same thing at 3 AM, you pay the 7-11 price of YYYY. All the variables of pricing can be analysed independently and evaluated against individual demand profiles.



The conceit of data-mining is that superior information from providers can manipulate consumers. If people who vote Democrat will pay a 20% premium for patchouli without buying less, charge 'em. And if people who vote Republican will buy ammo at a 20% premium, charge those guys, too.....but the upshot will be distortions in the marketplace where substitute goods will gain favor -- and political linkage will rot.



In the long term, this form of data-mining will become uneconomic and be abandoned -- but, in the short term, billions of dollars will pour into malinvestment.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 01:51 AM (EzgxV)

574 Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 09, 2016 01:41 AM (J+mig)

We used Wells Fargo when we were in CA.

Our small bank in VA was bought out and then, bought out. I guess we got lucky.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at May 09, 2016 01:51 AM (GzDYP)

575 About to fade out, but before I do...

Any fans of "The Americans" show (about Russians living undercover in America in the 1980s)?

Apparently, aside from the exciting action and murders in almost every episode, they got a lot of things right.

The day we discovered our parents were Russian spies
The Guardian
http://bit.ly/mom-dad-spies

h/t BlazingCatFur

Ah-bi-duh ah-bi-duh ah, that's it for me, folks.



He that speaks truth shows forth righteousness: but a false witness deceit.

Posted by: mindful webworker - solid American at May 09, 2016 01:59 AM (gJBE5)

576 574 Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 09, 2016 01:41 AM (J+mig)

We used Wells Fargo when we were in CA.

Our small bank in VA was bought out and then, bought out. I guess we got lucky.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at May 09, 2016 01:51 AM (GzDYP)





Wells Fargo is a very politically-connected bank. They will prosper so long as their favored politicians are bought-and-paid-for.




Banks with foreign connections, like Bank Leumi or East/West Bank, will see trouble coming and dodge it -- until it becomes open war.



Cash will work until it doesn't.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 01:59 AM (EzgxV)

577 Cash will work until it doesn't.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 01:59 AM (EzgxV)


And when it doesn't, if nobody knows who rules barter town yet, it's time to answer that question before anyone else does.

You can do a lot in this world if you show up at the right time and act like you know what you're doing.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 09, 2016 02:02 AM (J+mig)

578 Cooth! Your analysis here is brilliant, somewhat creepy and fascinating... Would I be in error to relate it broadly as similiar to those foreign local markets where haggling is obligatory?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 09, 2016 02:04 AM (kP16F)

579 You can do a lot in this world if you show up at the right time and act like you know what you're doing.
---
this is why i am heavily invested in art w*rks and precious metals.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 09, 2016 02:07 AM (XOZxO)

580 Man, I'm up late. Listening to the thunder in the distance.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 02:10 AM (zXclA)

581 I always thought the best way to watch Starship Troopers was to see it as a propaganda movie made by the Bugs. The bit where Denise Richards gets a bug spear right through the shoulder but then is walking and happy five minutes later shows that the Bugs really don't understand human anatomy.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 09, 2016 02:11 AM (AroJD)

582 578 Cooth! Your analysis here is brilliant, somewhat creepy and fascinating... Would I be in error to relate it broadly as similiar to those foreign local markets where haggling is obligatory?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 09, 2016 02:04 AM (kP16F)


My comments are blockheaded and stupid....but not entirely uninformed. I know enough to realize that economics is what people buy and sell while academics debate refined theories of economics.



In respect to haggling, it still happens, but -- by design -- it has been rendered mute. If you go into a grocery store and see a wall of jars of salsa, you can instantly decide whether the price of jar A makes it a better value than jar B; the flavor of jar B makes it a greater value than jar A; or the expected sale price of jar A makes it a better value than either A or B today.



Not a word need be uttered.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 02:15 AM (EzgxV)

583 579 You can do a lot in this world if you show up at the right time and act like you know what you're doing.
---
this is why i am heavily invested in art w*rks and precious metals.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 09, 2016 02:07 AM (XOZxO)



Those strike me as good choices......so long as you have sufficient reserve for food.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 02:16 AM (EzgxV)

584 Thunder dying down now.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 02:20 AM (zXclA)

585 Fcuk, spoke too soon.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 02:21 AM (zXclA)

586 585 Fcuk, spoke too soon.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 02:21 AM (zXclA)




Hopefully, everything's on surge-protectors...

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 02:23 AM (EzgxV)

587 art w*rks by the masters:

John Browning, John Garand, Samuel Colt, Dan Wesson, etc...

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 09, 2016 02:24 AM (XOZxO)

588 Well. I shall have to ponder this further, then! But now it's "oyasumi nasai"!

Thanks!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 09, 2016 02:25 AM (kP16F)

589 "No I didn't. You're a liar. Why do you do a job where you know you're conning people out of their hard-earned money? Does it feel good to you?"
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 09, 2016 01:10 AM

I do the same thing to those phone calls that tell you there's something wrong w/ your computer, that they are from Microsoft.

Usually say something like...why do your work for a crooked company, you need to get a different job.

Posted by: Farmer at May 09, 2016 02:25 AM (PzqA/)

590 i like the on line pharmacies that call me about re-ordering my viagra, cialis, etc...

"i'm married, what would i need that shit for? do you have anything that will make my wife interested in sex?"

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 09, 2016 02:27 AM (XOZxO)

591 "Hopefully, everything's on surge-protectors..."

Yeah, but old house is not.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 02:29 AM (zXclA)

592 well, good night all

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 09, 2016 02:32 AM (uAvJJ)

593 "John Browning, John Garand, Samuel Colt, Dan Wesson, etc..."

The question is, Alex, people who's faces should be on Mt. Rushmore.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2016 02:32 AM (zXclA)

594 redc, last week I came across a short film on UTube where Garand was speaking about the M1 and rifle development. Think it was 1944 or thereabouts. Film was about Springfield Armory, I think.


But tonight, while watching another episode of "Deutsche Wochenschau" (Goebbels's newsreels that Germans saw in cinemas during the war), I was amused to spot a PPsh-41 (Soviet sub-machine gun) being used by a German soldier. I've seen photos of Germans carrying M1 carbines, but was a bit surprised to see this - it was the July 23, 1941 edition, only a month into Barbarossa.


Guess the "pepeshaw" was quickly recognized as a handy weapon. I believe the Soviets equipped entire rifle divisions with these sub-machine guns, by the later stages of the war, something I think unique in military history.


Off to finish the Solomons campaign - well, finish reading about it in the current book, anyway.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 09, 2016 02:36 AM (QDnY+)

595 #589

I suspect the guys in those Indian boiler rooms are waiting on H1B visas so they can rip off Americans in a much bigger way.

Posted by: Epobirs at May 09, 2016 02:38 AM (IdCqF)

596 Posted by: rhomboid at May 09, 2016 02:36 AM (QDnY+)


Resident Evil bought a G-43 awhile back... call it the German Garand.

it appears to be unfired, or nearly so, and the SN indicates it was made in April 45.

we just need to decide which museum it's going to end up in, so no one turns it in for a gift card.

same same for the Arisaka with the Imperial crest and the bullet strikes on the bayonet and the ChiCom pistol with the MAC-V bring back papers.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 09, 2016 02:41 AM (XOZxO)

597 Lousagirl!!!!!
Do you have backchannel to Hat? I have a pressing reason to know this.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 01:24 AM

I'm not her...but if you go to his blog there's a place to email him. I clicked and it doesn't work for me, but I'm wondering if you subscribe that it would work for you?

Thanks for helping to straighten out my misunderstanding w/ Hat night.

T

Posted by: Farmer at May 09, 2016 02:41 AM (PzqA/)

598 Hold that - looks like it must have been a PPD-40, forerunner to the PPsh-41, which wasn't produced until after July '41. That explains why it didn't look like it had a heat shield, which the "papasha" has. Same ammo. -41 was much easier to produce (stamped metal parts, like our M3 grease gun and the British Sten, I think).

Posted by: rhomboid at May 09, 2016 02:42 AM (QDnY+)

599 Rhomboid:

Jerry captured a crap-ton of russki smg's early on, and ammo for them.

When they exhausted the tokarev ammo, they found the obsolete Mauser pistol round chambered and fired fine.

Posted by: Kaspar Gutman at May 09, 2016 02:46 AM (YDquc)

600 Posted by: mindful webworker - solid American at May 09, 2016 01:59 AM

Yep, wife and I watch 'The Americans". Thanks for the link. G'night mw.

Posted by: Farmer at May 09, 2016 02:48 AM (PzqA/)

601 Heading off to Bougainville and Lae, but redc do you shoot the Arisaka with the kiku on it? And how did you get that one?


MAC-V. A few years back, in a different life, I was walking down a street in a suburb of Saigon, and an older guy on a bike peddling the other way looked over and said - in perfect un-accented English - "you American?"


Smile, shake head. "Yeah, how could you tell?".


He laughed and pointed to a house down the street, and said I should drop in for tea some time. Next day I did. Turns out he was one of the very first ARVN liaison/interpreters assigned to MAC-C, at the beginning.


He showed me a photo album of his properties, described his story. House he lived in? Quite modest, typical of the area. He kept a very low profile. Has a few successful businesses.


He ducked out of Saigon just before April 25, 1975. Amazing story. Reminded me of the stories of Europeans who lived between the 20s and 50s.


Posted by: rhomboid at May 09, 2016 02:52 AM (QDnY+)

602 redbanzai,

odd to see you here at this hour. Not a bad thing at all!

Hope your boy is feeling well by now!

(Sorry - I don't frequent the day threads so much anymore)



- Chi



Posted by: A random monkey with a typewriter at May 09, 2016 01:51 AM (WFzg2)

Hey Chi...

I haven't been around much lately but we are doing well. Son2 is eating like a horse and has regained the weight he lost when his jaw was wired so that is a very good thing. How are you. Is that a new nick?

Posted by: redbanzai at May 09, 2016 02:52 AM (nUJM6)

603 The one thing they will never say is that they're working for Microsoft directly or indirectly. It's always "I'm calling from Windows support" or the like. They're forbidden to even say the word Microsoft because the reference would provide an easier basis for a sting bust on their employer, based on Indian laws. Microsoft has a group that exists just to gather evidence to use in pursuing prosecutions. They've managed to shut down a few.

Copyrights can be strange in foreign jurisdictions. Protecting a company name can be done but brands apart from that are freely abused. This can be seen in movie titles where a hit movie will appear to have sequels from a dozen different sources. I first noticed this with the Chow Yun Fat starrer 'God of Gamblers.' A few months after I saw that I noticed there were countless movies all claiming to be 'God of Gamblers II.' Only one of them was by the same people with Chow Yun Fat in the lead and general insanity for a story with some of the funniest bad subtitles ever.

The weird thing is the companies are semi-legit in that they will run diagnostics and install real anti-malware but it's all stuff you can get for free. Especially since Microsoft own anti-malware product, formerly known as Microsoft Security Essentials, became part of the base install with Windows 8. This means that no new install of Windows happens without the functionality there from the start. Third party product can be better, since like so many categories, Microsoft is under pressure to not make their stuff too good lest the EU go nuts over it and making anti-trust claims. Which is insane as the market for such utilities only came into existence in the first place due to the lack of security in DOS and early Windows, which still puts limits of what they can protect if they want to maintain compatibility.

This is one of the reasons virtualization is getting to be more of a factor on the desktop and not just on servers. It is very useful for isolating old stuff to prevent malware exploiting it to have much reach. It's also handy for the power users but regular folks don't need to be aware of it to benefit.

Posted by: Epobirs at May 09, 2016 02:54 AM (IdCqF)

604 Kaspar, thanks! If you're curious, the PPD-40 appears in the last 5 minutes of the July 23, 1941 Wochenschau, when they are taking some Soviet prisoners.


Very interesting about the obsolete ammo working in the Soviet sub guns.


And now - REALLY signing off, Empress Augusta Bay is calling ....

Posted by: rhomboid at May 09, 2016 02:55 AM (QDnY+)

605 Posted by: Farmer at May 09, 2016 02:41 AM

Godd lorde I toght I was farely sober
...last night

Posted by: Farmer at May 09, 2016 02:55 AM (PzqA/)

606 This is one of the reasons virtualization is getting
to be more of a factor on the desktop and not just on servers. It is
very useful for isolating old stuff to prevent malware exploiting it to
have much reach. It's also handy for the power users but regular folks
don't need to be aware of it to benefit.


Posted by: Epobirs at May 09, 2016 02:54 AM (IdCqF)


Virtualization's the wave of the future. Get a virus? A cryptolocker? Laugh and reset the thing. Because fuck all of these assholes that make this shit.

I'm studying it for work-related purposes, and will probably start doing it at home when I build my next box.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 09, 2016 03:03 AM (J+mig)

607 "but redc do you shoot the Arisaka with the kiku on it? And how did you get that one?
"
---|
there's a local FFL who are generally overpriced D-bags, but who get strange things in their used racks ever so often, where they don't know what they have.

they get a large hipster crowd due to location.

Resident Evil and i were in there, at her suggestion, since we hadn't been in for some time, and there it was.

i showed it to her, and she was unimpressed, as we already had a ground off version. i tried to explain to her the importance, but she was being female, so, like any good gun collector, i got down on my hands and knees (true story) and kissed her feet there in the show room until she gave up and said i could have the rifle.

when i got up, i got a variety of looks from the yutes who were there with their girlfriends, because "not macho", or some such.

i just laughed and said "i got the gun!"

pretty sure i'll never shoot it, and just turn it over, but i have another FFL in my AO who has some original, in the package, IJ ammo to accompany it. we're talking $$ on that.

i can always shoot the grinder, and i have dies, etc, for that to make ammo for it.


Posted by: redc1c4 at May 09, 2016 03:09 AM (XOZxO)

608 Night all.

Here is "The Green Manalishi (With The Two Prong Crown)" by the original Fleetwood Mac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTvKaLW5bu8

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 09, 2016 03:52 AM (vBeA5)

609 Good night Hat
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2016 04:22 AM (3wHFl)

610 The history of communism is the cry Forward!, Change!. Then when they are totally in power nothing changes, nothing moves.

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2016 04:46 AM (3wHFl)

611 'Morning, horde.

Nice ONT, sublog. Lotsa meat in here.

Posted by: creeper at May 09, 2016 05:43 AM (ghfOx)

612 Spent two hours on Mothers' Day making seven pounds of potato salad. It occurred to me that there's something wrong with the mothers doing all the work on Mothers' Day.

Posted by: creeper at May 09, 2016 05:45 AM (ghfOx)

613 Yeah, creeper, bad, bad insomnia. Never went to sleep. So it's morning now?

Posted by: L, Elle at May 09, 2016 05:47 AM (5QyYN)

614 g'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 09, 2016 05:54 AM (ptqRm)

615 Good Morning Morons. Today is Monday, May 09, 2016. On this day in 1961 FCC Chairman Newton N. Minow gave his Wasteland Speech concerning TV programming.



He said (in part) you would see: "a procession of game shows, formula comedies about totally unbelievable families, blood and thunder, mayhem, violence, sadism, murder, western bad men, western good men, private eyes, gangsters, more violence, and cartoons. And endlessly commercials, many screaming, cajoling, and offending. And most of all, boredom."


Amazing how TV really hasn't changed that much however, all in all, TV in 1961 was much better than it is now. And those endless commercials have doubled in number and time.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 05:56 AM (vvmPQ)

616 The Army is now down to its lowest level of manning since 1940. This is thanks to budget cuts engendered by Democrats and sell-out RINOs who believe in more and more socialism at the expense of national defense and congressional politicians who believe in defense toys, to be made in their districts that enhance their "electability", as opposed to actually manning the ranks which is not visible politically.


http://fxn.ws/1rJopMf

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 05:56 AM (vvmPQ)

617 Don't like Trump's policies. Wait a few days and he will change them. He has now changed his plans regarding taxes. He has joined the Democrats in saying that the "rich" need to be punished some more with higher taxes.


http://bit.ly/21MZmEB

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 05:56 AM (vvmPQ)

618 Penn State says it has settled claims going back as far as 1971 over the Sandusky sex abuse claims. So far PA taxpayers have been punished to the tune of $90M for all this illegal and sordid behavior. But at least some of these miscreants have been sent to jail as well.


http://fxn.ws/1NnRSp5

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 05:56 AM (vvmPQ)

619 And speaking of sordid teachers, one who allegedly raped a student was allowed to teach for years in NYC classrooms.


http://fxn.ws/1Xgtrfv

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 05:56 AM (vvmPQ)

620 That's retarded about the child with no hands winning a handwriting contest because . . . cursive is racist!!! Where's my drank?

Posted by: Rachel Jeantel at May 09, 2016 05:57 AM (2X7pN)

621 NC governor says he will answer the Choom's illegal orders concerning NC's common sense bathroom laws. But he will not say what his answer is going to be. I do hope he tells Obama to stick his illegal orders up his ass in those exact words.


http://fxn.ws/1SXRDBq

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 05:57 AM (vvmPQ)

622 The driver who killed Sandra Day O'Conner's sister has been charged with manslaughter and DUI. And of course they had to say at the end of the article that he was a Republican.


http://fxn.ws/1YhaFD5

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 05:57 AM (vvmPQ)

623 Family members of the 9 people who were killed in that "Historically Black" church in Charleston are angered because the church isn't giving them enough money.


http://fxn.ws/1Wie5HD

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 05:57 AM (vvmPQ)

624 80 year old Snohomish County Grandma kills a home intruder who had hit her husband in the head with a crowbar. He had broken in to steal drugs and she pulled her trusty .38 and gave him three new orifices, thus alleviating his need for drugs. Snohomish County is part of the greater Seattle area which is doing all it can do to see that 80 year old grandmas will not be able to do this.


http://fxn.ws/23ANFQX

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 05:58 AM (vvmPQ)

625 Old Muley says the US needs to prepare for a "borderless world". I guess the Democrats are making no bones anymore about selling out the US so they can get an even larger FSA to vote Democrat forever.


http://washex.am/1QV4r62

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 05:58 AM (vvmPQ)

626 Sarah Palin has announced that she will work to defeat RINO Ryan by backing his primary opponent. I know some here have taken exception to her for denouncing Ryan for not backing Trump once he has become the presumptive nominee. She is right on this though, a member of the Republican leadership once the primary is over should in fact back the nominee or resign his position in the Party leadership. Yes, I would have liked somebody other than Trump, but that is water over the dam now. And yes, I would like to see Ryan sitting at home cursing the TV.


http://bit.ly/1VPftBH

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 05:58 AM (vvmPQ)

627 It appears that the FBI has reached the final stages on their investigation of Scankles' illegal server.


http://bit.ly/1TNVr76

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 05:58 AM (vvmPQ)

628 Democrat run Austin, TX will keep expensive finger printing requirements for cab drivers and run Uber out of business.


http://yhoo.it/1VPXye7

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 05:59 AM (vvmPQ)

629
Darwin is alive and well in Sweden where a mom invited a muzzie "refugee" into her home and he immediately raped her 10 year old daughter.


http://bit.ly/1WjIk1E

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 05:59 AM (vvmPQ)

630 Former fake Republican turned Libertarian Gary Johnson is destroyed by another Libertarian candidate over his pro-gun control position. My question is how in the Hell did a pro-gun control asshole get elected in AZ? After looking at a couple of sites regarding this it appears that Johnson is not for "gun control". What say our AZ Morons?


http://bit.ly/1WjIFS5

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 05:59 AM (vvmPQ)

631 The owner of the OH restaurant where a muzzie attacked 4 people with a machete is blasting Obama on his support of muzzie terrorists coming into the US. He is an immigrant who came to the US from Israel himself. He says he did not come to the US to have the President preaching about Islam.


http://bit.ly/1WigHFz

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 05:59 AM (vvmPQ)

632 NYT liberal admits that liberal colleges discriminate against conservatives.


http://bit.ly/1Xgw5Sg

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 05:59 AM (vvmPQ)

633 And speaking of discrimination on campuses, Scankles supporters are complaining about getting short shrift from college Kommie Bernie supporters on campus. Hahahahahaha


http://bit.ly/1T6qPRs

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 06:00 AM (vvmPQ)

634 Even though he is going out the door Obama is still going forward with his push to move section 8 housing into affluent suburbs. My question is; where is he getting the money to pay for this crap? Oh, stupid rhetorical question. He steals it from other programs because he knows there is no opposition Party.


http://bit.ly/1WUB7DD

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 06:00 AM (vvmPQ)

635 Oh how they spin. Some Cruz people are saying they would have beaten Trump if his running mate had been Rubio. Gag me with an umbrella, that is absolute BS.


http://bit.ly/1SZfYDF

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 06:00 AM (vvmPQ)

636 Trump is castigating Jebbie the Hutt for not honoring his pledge to support the eventual nominee. He should have known Jebbie is a RINO liar.


http://bit.ly/1T6tjw2

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 06:00 AM (vvmPQ)

637 Bill Clinton: "enacting more gun control was one of the greatest honors of my life". Even most Democrat voters now do not support more gun control except in really stupid Northern urban areas. But evidently Democrat politicians are as bad as Republican ones about not giving a shit what their supporters want.


http://bit.ly/1s5RQJ6

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 06:00 AM (vvmPQ)

638 DeCommio says the "feds" (meaning Republican conservatives in congress) are not bailing out PR because of racism. Always the last desperate card the extreme left throws on the table. No asshole who somehow snuck into office on a low turnout election, Republican conservatives do not support bailing out a failed socialist regime who refuses to change its ways.


http://bit.ly/1rJgTkp

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 06:01 AM (vvmPQ)

639 No Ramirez Update


That's it for today folks. Slow Monday as normal. And BTW I have no lnk because this comes from the news on the radio. But supposedly the RNCe is telling Republican delegates to the national convention have no oblication to attend the convention. WTF???

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 06:01 AM (vvmPQ)

640 636
Trump is castigating Jebbie the Hutt for not honoring his pledge to
support the eventual nominee. He should have known Jebbie is a RINO
liar.


http://bit.ly/1T6tjw2

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 06:00 AM (vvmPQ)


I don't like him, but on the other hand, he's revealed the low character of most of the people I hate for all to see. So conflicted.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 09, 2016 06:05 AM (J+mig)

641 Thanks Vic.

Supposed to hit 90 today. Yee-ha.

Posted by: Golfman at May 09, 2016 06:12 AM (48QDY)

642 641
Thanks Vic.



Supposed to hit 90 today. Yee-ha.

Posted by: Golfman at May 09, 2016 06:12 AM (48QDY)

They are calling for 92F here today. Our short lived Spring is apparently over. I'm sure the warmies will have something to crow about now.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 06:13 AM (vvmPQ)

643 No differential equations are permitted on airline flights, I'm given to understand.

Frankly, that's a good thing. I would need to warm up first.

Posted by: MTF at May 09, 2016 06:17 AM (/m8T6)

644 Don't look directly at the Sun today, no-duh!, in order to watch Mercury transit the fireball. Use a pinhole projector instead, you morons!
http://www.space.com/15614-sun-observing-safety-tips-infographic.html

Posted by: goon at May 09, 2016 06:18 AM (WCaSy)

645 "Don't look directly at the Sun today, "


Tomorrow is good though, right?

Posted by: Corky at May 09, 2016 06:20 AM (ptqRm)

646 Posted by: L, Elle at May 09, 2016 05:47 AM (5QyYN)

According to the birds, it's Monday. I'm not there yet.

Posted by: creeper at May 09, 2016 06:21 AM (ghfOx)

647 644
Don't look directly at the Sun today, no-duh!, in order to watch Mercury
transit the fireball. Use a pinhole projector instead, you morons!

http://www.space.com/15614-sun-observing-safety-tips-infographic.html

Posted by: goon at May 09, 2016 06:18 AM (WCaSy)

Not as bad as looking directly at Scankles though.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 06:21 AM (vvmPQ)

648 We should start a pool concerning the date and time of El Chapo's next escape from a Mexican prison gangster hotel.

Posted by: goon at May 09, 2016 06:23 AM (WCaSy)

649 The sun is starting to come up now whether I want to look at it or not. It looks like it will be another beautiful day screaming for me to hit the porch. Well at least in the morning before it elevates up to the high 80s.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 06:23 AM (vvmPQ)

650 Thanx for the linx, Vic. You keep us up to speed.

Posted by: creeper at May 09, 2016 06:24 AM (ghfOx)

651 This was on Saturday, but I didn't see it until yesterday

Black rapper Azalea Banks declares her support of Trump in a series of tweets, calling Hillary a robot being groomed for the WH and saying PC is a form of Corporatism

https://t.co/DM9kL4y6VB

Posted by: @votermom at May 09, 2016 06:25 AM (nbrY/)

652 Thanks Vic.

Posted by: Valiant at May 09, 2016 06:25 AM (3MiF8)

653 Black rapper Azalea Banks declares her support of Trump in a series of tweets

Posted by: @votermom at May 09, 2016 06:25 AM (nbrY/)

Whoa! That's gonna leave a mark.

Posted by: creeper at May 09, 2016 06:26 AM (ghfOx)

654 BTW I have no lnk because this comes from the news
on the radio. But supposedly the RNCe is telling Republican delegates to
the national convention have no oblication to attend the convention.
WTF???



Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 06:01 AM (vvmPQ)


They're still trying to game the system in order to allow them to give us a preferred RINO candidate on the GOP ticket. Bless their hearts.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 09, 2016 06:27 AM (7hA+f)

655 The FBI Primary is scheduled soon, huh? Let's hope the rule of law wins it.

Posted by: MTF at May 09, 2016 06:27 AM (/m8T6)

656 I'm so tired of hearing about Bill Clinton's rapey ways. What difference at this point, does it make? (*fat girl waving blubber arms and yelling F* you!*)

Posted by: goon at May 09, 2016 06:31 AM (WCaSy)

657
28° this morning. Ties record for this date, set in 1999. Should be a nice afternoon once the sun gets up.

The trees know. They haven't been deceived by the last four weeks of afternoon temps in the '60's and '70s'. They know it isn't time to leaf yet.

Posted by: Haclav Yosefski at May 09, 2016 06:32 AM (KGcxw)

658 657 The trees know. They haven't been deceived by the
last four weeks of afternoon temps in the '60's and '70s'. They know it
isn't time to leaf yet.

Posted by: Haclav Yosefski at May 09, 2016 06:32 AM (KGcxw)

My trees have been leafed out for quite a while now.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 06:34 AM (vvmPQ)

659 Great links again, Vic. Another day when it will be appropriate to take my blood pressure medicine an hour earlier than usual. Thanks.

Posted by: goon at May 09, 2016 06:34 AM (WCaSy)

660 659
Great links again, Vic. Another day when it will be appropriate to take
my blood pressure medicine an hour earlier than usual. Thanks.

Posted by: goon at May 09, 2016 06:34 AM (WCaSy)

You should be taking it at 0530 like I do.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 06:35 AM (vvmPQ)

661 657 The trees know.

Yes, they do. And so do the damn morel mushrooms. They're a month late so far.

Posted by: creeper at May 09, 2016 06:36 AM (ghfOx)

662 I take my blood pressure med at night.
That way I don't care if it makes me dizzy.

Posted by: @votermom at May 09, 2016 06:38 AM (nbrY/)

663 662
I take my blood pressure med at night.

That way I don't care if it makes me dizzy.



Posted by: @votermom at May 09, 2016 06:38 AM (nbrY/)

I have to take it twice a day now.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 06:39 AM (vvmPQ)

664 They're still trying to game the system in order
to allow them to give us a preferred RINO candidate on the GOP ticket.
Bless their hearts.


Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 09, 2016 06:27 AM (7hA+f)


I'd rather settle for Trump than that. That's about the only thing that could be worse than having to hold my nose and vote for the dumpster fire.

Aside from them actually just deciding that Hillary will be the first candidate of both parties. I really shouldn't give them ideas...

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 09, 2016 06:39 AM (J+mig)

665 I have to take it twice a day now.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 06:39 AM (vvmPQ)

Because your heart is stubborn, just like you!

Posted by: @votermom at May 09, 2016 06:41 AM (nbrY/)

666 I wonder how Carly feels about having been a VP candidate for, what was it, 48 hours? Can't win for losing, Carly. I think that little episode probably also ruined your chances to go to the dance with Donald.

Posted by: goon at May 09, 2016 06:43 AM (WCaSy)

667 Goon, it was the price for getting her campaign debt paid.

Posted by: @votermom at May 09, 2016 06:48 AM (nbrY/)

668 Thank you Vic. Much appreciated.

I really liked the Great Wasteland link and your analysis.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 09, 2016 06:51 AM (u82oZ)

669 Suns up. Looks to be a nice day.

I wonder what fresh hell they will sneak in when we're not looking.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 09, 2016 06:52 AM (ptqRm)

670 667
Goon, it was the price for getting her campaign debt paid.

Posted by: @votermom at May 09, 2016 06:48 AM (nbrY/)

Still, it's hard to figure what the point was there. Seems to be a lot of that in politics these days.

Posted by: creeper at May 09, 2016 06:52 AM (ghfOx)

671 Maggies had an interesting link to a song by Sister Rosetta Tharpe, called the "Godmother of Rock" that's a good listen. I'd never heard her name before and there is a link to a documentary about her life there as well.

http://tinyurl.com/hls5fgn

Posted by: MTF at May 09, 2016 06:52 AM (/m8T6)

672 Yeah, most of our candidates should have remembered the old saying about "singing lessons" and just kept the money in the bank. But, then again, I remember what Teddy said about the Man in the Arena. Plus, we got a ton of really good-strong aggravation out of the whole circus.

Posted by: goon at May 09, 2016 06:55 AM (WCaSy)

673 I have to take it twice a day now.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 06:39 AM (vvmPQ)


Me too. More and more as time goes by. We apparently develop resistances to these medications over time...like beta blockers? Our bodies produce more beta receptacles in response.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 09, 2016 06:57 AM (7hA+f)

674 Today is the deadline for North Carolina to decide whither popular sovereignty, or rule by bureaucrat. Regardless of how society evolves on the question at hand, this issue basically just popped up on the social consciousness, and at any rate should be decided by the people themselves, in a legislature.

As did not happen with gay marriage.

We are at an inflection point in America. The Experiment is in crisis, this still-relatively new thing under the sun of self-governance, for many of the people no longer have a sense of independence, and those that do can not always fight the media, the culture, and the governmental bureaucracies--even when they have a majority. They cannot fight our new nobility, our arrogant aristocrats of the information age. We live in an time when no law we pass is worth anything, any law they pass is ironclad and enforced to the limit. We have no say anymore, and I am not sure we ever will if those with power today--and this includes many in the Republican Party, --have their way.

We need to rebel. And we need to rebel in a way that works. The first way is via the ballot box. The second way is by non-violently bringing society to a halt. What we are fighting for is for the law to mean what it says, for the law to be determined by the people, and for it to be determined in a legislature. We are fighting for popular sovereignty, and for the people to own and control the government, and not the government to own and control the people. Neither the judiciary nor the academic branch of government nor the media branch of government nor the corporate branch of government nor the executive branch of government should be forcing a change in society, but it should come from the majority of the people themselves, after they discuss the issue and vote to change. Not from a minority who have acquired levers of power and have a vision which they will enforce without first asking if anyone has an issue with this.

I say "government" above because it *is* a government, a shadow government, a Progressive oligarchy that simply will do as it will to assert its will. When out of power, it still has more power than those we send to control government. It is a minority that usurps, it is a minority that excommunicates, it is the modern knight ruling his fief as he sees fit. We are but serfs in a new feudal age, bound to the nation and expected to till the fields and otherwise do as we are told.

This is not how it should be. It is a Republic, our Republic. If we can keep it. So will we?

Posted by: Some guy on the Intertubes at May 09, 2016 06:58 AM (J3UIw)

675 Spent the weekend working on the project car (2006 Mountaineer). With all the aches and pains, it would have been better to have a shop do the work. But, it wouldn't have been done the way I wanted.

I pulled the interior out, all the seats, trim and carpeting. The new carpeting comes molded, but oversized and not with the cutouts. Makes you think twice before diving in with a razor knife.

The new carpet is installed now, with the center console back in and all the trim under the dash back in place. After accessing the seat belts, I decided to pull them all out and have them redone with new webbing. That will hold things up for about 10 days.

Might try a little re-dye action on the seats. We'll see.

The results so far are encouraging, however, it's been a lot more work than I had originally planned on.

Posted by: jwest at May 09, 2016 06:58 AM (Zs4uk)

676 Posted by: jwest at May 09, 2016 06:58 AM (Zs4uk)

Take heart. You coulda bought a boat, which is simply a hole in the water into which one pours money.

Posted by: creeper at May 09, 2016 07:01 AM (ghfOx)

677 Jwest did you do all this at home in your garage?

Posted by: @votermom at May 09, 2016 07:01 AM (nbrY/)

678 677 Jwest did you do all this at home in your garage?

Posted by: @votermom at May 09, 2016 07:01 AM (nbrY/)

It was such a nice weekend I did it all outside of the garage. I needed all that space to lay the new carpet down and put the old piece over the top to lay out where to cut.

Posted by: jwest at May 09, 2016 07:04 AM (Zs4uk)

679 674 Posted by: Some guy on the Intertubes at May 09, 2016 06:58 AM (J3UIw)


The problem this time is not congressional or court overreach of their authority. It is a purely illegal order by Pharaoh Obama referencing portions of a law that simply do not exist. He would flat out be laughed at by an honest judge in an honest court, but would be able to drag it out for a decade using taxpayer financed lawfare.


That is the kind of shit that needs to be stopped. This has been a tactic of liberals in the eco-Nazi movement for nearly 50 years now and they are now branching out to use it for everything.


Obama and Holder used it in their fight for vote fraud after States started passing photo ID requirements for voting. While he has lost in every court he still managed to halt implementation of the laws until they got another election under their belt.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 07:04 AM (vvmPQ)

680

Early morning recipe - easy. I just put this in the oven. I took the advice of the commenters under the recipe at the link by adding this and that.


Puffed Apple Pancakes

http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/reviews/puffed-apple-pancake-107071

( we had apple pancakes at the Mother's Day brunch yesterday, and I only had one very small one, so thought I would extend the pleasure a bit... )

This will wake hubby up soon, once the wonderful baking smell rises upstairs... )

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 09, 2016 07:06 AM (qCMvj)

681 >>>
Not as bad as looking directly at Scankles though.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 06:21 AM (vvmPQ)

Mmmmmph, mmmmph, MMMMMMPH!

Posted by: Huma Abedin-Wiener at May 09, 2016 07:07 AM (D/stb)

682 The results so far are encouraging, however, it's been a lot more work than I had originally planned on.
Posted by: jwest at May 09, 2016 06:58 AM (Zs4uk)

676 Posted by: jwest at May 09, 2016 06:58 AM (Zs4


picts!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 09, 2016 07:08 AM (qCMvj)

683 picts!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 09, 2016 07:08 AM (qCMvj)


How is that done? I can't even do ampersands.

Posted by: jwest at May 09, 2016 07:10 AM (Zs4uk)

684 617: Trump is like Obama; everything he says has an expiration date.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 09, 2016 07:14 AM (crrLc)

685 picts!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 09, 2016 07:08 AM (qCMvj)


What about us?

Posted by: Angles, Saxons and Jutes at May 09, 2016 07:17 AM (0ZkAE)

686 How is that done? I can't even do ampersands.
Posted by: jwest at May 09, 2016 07:10 AM (Zs4uk)


you'ld need to upload them from your camera (if it's digital) to the pc, then to an app that you can link to to show them.

something like the old photobucket, but there are so many now

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 09, 2016 07:17 AM (qCMvj)

687 The way the house is laid out with a rear driveway winding up a hill to the garage, the neighbors can't really see what's happening there.

My wife was laughing at the thought that all they were hearing was the whine of a pneumatic impact wrench and someone yelling "Fuck!" every few minutes.

She said it was living next to a muffler shop.

Posted by: jwest at May 09, 2016 07:18 AM (Zs4uk)

688 623: 623 Family members of the 9 people who were killed in that "Historically Black" church in Charleston are angered because the church isn't giving them enough money.


So they were using the dead relatives to shake down a church? Lovely.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 09, 2016 07:19 AM (crrLc)

689 picts!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 09, 2016 07:08 AM (qCMvj)

What about us?
Posted by: Angles, Saxons and Jutes at May 09, 2016 07:17 AM (0ZkAE)


oh
Scotch wars!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 09, 2016 07:20 AM (qCMvj)

690 625 Old Muley says the US needs to prepare for a "borderless world". I guess the Democrats are making no bones anymore about selling out the US so they can get an even larger FSA to vote Democrat forever.


The Gods of the Copybook Headings will have a say with this.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 09, 2016 07:22 AM (crrLc)

691 Song peppered with bitch, fuck, and ni66er.

What a happy way to start the week.

Plus though, it's not raining.


Morning horde!

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at May 09, 2016 07:28 AM (8WS9K)

692 @674

"of the people, by the people, for the people"

Well, it sounded good anyway.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at May 09, 2016 07:29 AM (j2xmV)

693 oh
Scotch wars!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 09, 2016 07:20 AM (qCMvj)


Haig ampersand Haig Pinch for the win!

Posted by: RickZ at May 09, 2016 07:31 AM (0ZkAE)

694 G'mornin, Horde !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 09, 2016 07:34 AM (gUoN4)

695 My ampersand-envy is kicking up bigtime. Oh, to be one of the privileged few.

On second thought, forget it. I'd just squander them.

Grey, drizzly morning here. A thousand miles away I can smell the smoke from the Canadian wildfires.

Posted by: creeper at May 09, 2016 07:35 AM (ghfOx)

696 Grey, drizzly morning here. A thousand miles away I can smell the smoke from the Canadian wildfires.
Posted by: creeper at May 09, 2016 07:35 AM (ghfOx)


I saw a map this morning that showed the smoke traveling all the way down to Georgia!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 09, 2016 07:37 AM (qCMvj)

697 Old Muley says the US needs to prepare for a "borderless world". I guess the Democrats are making no bones anymore about selling out the US so they can get an even larger FSA to vote Democrat forever.


http://washex.am/1QV4r62

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2016 05:58 AM (vvmPQ)



It's a good thing that our money never runs out. It just magically there

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 09, 2016 07:38 AM (45oDG)

698 Just.Can't.get.motivated.
Getting close to willow territory here.

I just need to find endings for two more short stories and I have enough for a Second Taste of Imagination.

A close encounter of the Art Bell Kind.
A spook. government spook, not ghostly spook.
Lord of the Flies variant. I didn't like the book much.

Waking up after an alcohol blackout in the loving embrace of a large furry. A large furry with bear paws who can operate a computer keyboard. Ya, I know, cut me some poetic license. Han Solo has a Wookie who can pilot a starship. "Family Law" by Mackey Chandler has a sentient bear like species. Give me a break.

A day in the life . . . on a toxic planet.
and The End, which no one is going to like; very black, very current events.

So close. Maybe food will help.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 09, 2016 07:38 AM (FRnG7)

699 So close. Maybe food will help.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 09, 2016 07:38 AM (FRnG7)


or read a few short stories of other authors - sometimes that helps (if you don't have time to dive into a fun or engaging fiction read to get your mind off of it).

I usually just go do physical labor of some sort, or lie in bed for a "nap" of thought.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 09, 2016 07:43 AM (qCMvj)

700 Time to make the donuts.

Posted by: Made with extra love. And, cyanide. at May 09, 2016 07:52 AM (9eYoy)

701 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 09, 2016 07:37 AM (qCMvj)

I'm in far eastern Iowa, 'ette.

Yesterday I couldn't smell the smoke in town. Maybe the trees filtered it out. But when I got out on the road between the bare, freshly-planted fields, it was everywhere. Thought at first "Everyone and his dog must be barbecuing for Mothers' Day" and then realized what I was smelling. Those poor people.

Posted by: creeper at May 09, 2016 07:54 AM (ghfOx)

702 votermom and the other Trump supporters here:

Since I will vote for Trump over Hillary, I am doing my best to come to terms with Trump being the nominee. But he makes it terribly difficult - not because of taco bowls and trivia crap like that. I actually found the PC outrage funny.

It's stuff like the Soros ties and the fact that his SIL, a strong Democrat, has been named head of the White House transition team. That's the sort of thing which makes me believe that conservative tears will flow no matter who wins in November.

It's hard to get excited about someone whose big selling point is "He's not as bad as Hillary."

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 09, 2016 07:55 AM (P8951)

703 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 09, 2016 07:56 AM (ZQfW9)

704 "It is a Republic, our Republic."

The Republic no longer exists. Voting won't change that. There's been a coup, and the Republican party is in on it.

The way forward is the second option you mentioned: Nonviolent noncooperation.

The question now is how long it can remain nonviolent.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 09, 2016 07:58 AM (eHpnh)

705 If Bernie is elected, he will redistribute the ampersands.

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

clearly, it's not fair that I have so many and others have none.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 09, 2016 07:59 AM (P8951)

706 Which one of you told the sun it could come up and wake everyone up? It wasn't me.

Dammmit.



Posted by: L, Elle at May 09, 2016 08:03 AM (5QyYN)

707 Commuters help baby beaver in the metro station In DC (video):

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zu9mkce

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2016 08:04 AM (w4NZ8)

708 Posted by: DonnaV (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 09, 2016 07:59 AM (P8951)

Well, at least you recognize your ampersand privilege and don't deny it. That should count for something. You're right. It's not fair. {sigh} Dad told me life was like that sixty years ago. He was right. He was also right about something else..."Them as has, gits."

Smoke's making me daffy. It's even in the house.

Posted by: creeper at May 09, 2016 08:10 AM (ghfOx)

709 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2016 08:04 AM (w4NZ

Awww....That was worth waking up for.

Posted by: creeper at May 09, 2016 08:12 AM (ghfOx)

710 Hi Donna, glad you will vote against Hillary!

afaik Soros hates Trump.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-03-15/ soros-alarmed-by-trump-pours-money-into-2016-race

I know you are talking about Steven Mnuchin, which has a lot of people worried because he contributed more to Dems than to GOP, and Soros is a big stockholder of one of the funds he works for.
So it is an eye-brow raising pick.
You may not know, he also has a finger in Hollywood and is an executive producer of American Sniper (and a bunch of other films).
So I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as someone who may be a stealth non-proggie

Posted by: @votermom at May 09, 2016 08:12 AM (nbrY/)

711 Posted by: DonnaV (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 09, 2016 07:55 AM (P8951)

I am looking forward to watching the sTRUMPettes try to explain how his actions benefit the conservative movement. All references to how he is better than the democrat alternative will be disallowed and a bullshit flag thrown. If I wanted to have someone non-conservative but better than Hillery or Bernie, I could have supported pretty much any of the candidates. I want an ACTUAL conservative who will support my views. Let the party leftists conform to what I want for once.

Posted by: Deathknyte at May 09, 2016 08:12 AM (z2dJ0)

712 Massive art/light installation at Ayers Rock Resort In Australia. Beautiful! :

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zzhu5en

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2016 08:16 AM (w4NZ8)

713 Since you got adorable kittens last week, now it's time for adorable puppies:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hpnnddb

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2016 08:19 AM (w4NZ8)

714 "I am looking forward to watching the sTRUMPettes try to explain how his actions benefit the conservative movement. All references to how he is better than the democrat alternative will be disallowed and a bullshit flag thrown. If I wanted to have someone non-conservative but better than Hillery or Bernie, I could have supported pretty much any of the candidates. I want an ACTUAL conservative who will support my views. Let the party leftists conform to what I want for once."

In today's news, Trump says he's open to tax increases, but only for the rich, which isn't anything at all like the position of the Marxists.

Wut?

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 09, 2016 08:26 AM (eHpnh)

715 Such an IDIOTIC narrative. WOman that sits home with kids don't work nearly as hard as they PRETEND they do. what a JOKE... Woman are crazy.

Posted by: ETS at May 09, 2016 09:04 AM (Cw0mb)

716 Cloyd:

LOL. And so it begins...

Posted by: Deathknyte at May 09, 2016 09:29 AM (z2dJ0)

717 714 "I am looking forward to watching the sTRUMPettes try to explain how his actions benefit the conservative movement. All references to how he is better than the democrat alternative will be disallowed and a bullshit flag thrown. If I wanted to have someone non-conservative but better than Hillery or Bernie, I could have supported pretty much any of the candidates. I want an ACTUAL conservative who will support my views. Let the party leftists conform to what I want for once."

In today's news, Trump says he's open to tax increases, but only for the rich, which isn't anything at all like the position of the Marxists.

Wut?

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 09, 2016 08:26 AM (eHpnh)



As for myself, I favor low taxes for those who have played by the rules and earned money in fair trade -- and harsh, crippling, punitive taxes for cronies who have stolen trillions of dollars from this economy through sweetheart deals with government.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 09, 2016 11:59 AM (EzgxV)

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