Overnight Open Thread (5-4-2016) - See y'all in June Edition

Quote of the Day - Time Machine Owner Edition

I don't rely on time. Time is what man made for our convenience, and in reality, it does not exist.

-- Yoko Ono, April 25, 2016

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Department of Justice Declares War on North Carolina

To exactly no one's surprise, the Obama Department of Justice has sent a letter to North Carolina governor Pat McRory demanding that that the state "not comply with or enforce H.B. 2" - it's so-called transgender bathroom law. The reason? The DOJ claims that it violates Title VII, a statute that doesn't reference sexual orientation or gender identity at all - a statute that the Obama administration and various activist courts have purported to lawlessly expand entirely by executive and judicial fiat.

Kuwait Airways Stops Inter-European Flights Rather Than Accept Israeli Passengers

How Michelle Obama F*cked Up School Lunches

When first lady Michelle Obama championed rewriting the old school lunch menus along new and improved nutritional guidelines, the idea was to limit portion size and increase kids' consumption of fruits and vegetables. To encourage school districts to participate in the program, the government increased the amount it would reimburse schools per meal and increased, as well, the number of children eligible for reduced-price and free lunches. The reimbursements were offered as a way schools could offset the cost of the new and more expensive menus. But once those reimbursements are built into their budgets, schools are that much more bound by federal mandates, because they can't risk losing the subsidies.

And so the mandates get even more onerous. In 2014, the USDA enacted "Smart Snacks in Schools" rules that set nutrition guidelines for any foods offered at school-whether part of the lunch program or not. The rules specified breads be at least half whole-grain. Fat could account for no more than 35 percent of calories. And there are limits on calories, along with restrictions on salt and sugars.

The trouble with the mandates isn't that schools have trouble making the meals, but the fact that kids don't like them very much.

And reimbursements can't make up for the fact that kids are choosing to skip lunch rather than eat the new mandated meals.

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EU To Institute Refugee Quotas

German Army Has to Leave NATO Exercises Early Because of Overtime Rules

Nothing Lasts Like Temporary Protected Status

The TPS amnesty for 200,000 Salvadoran illegals after a 2001 earthquake has been routinely renewed. The TPS amnesty for 60,000 Hondurans and Nicaraguans following Hurricane Mitch in 1998 has also been routinely renewed. Liberians were the first to benefit from TPS after Congress enacted the law in 1990 (to rein in unilateral executive actions) - and they're still here. The TPS amnesty because of Ebola in West Africa was just extended despite the fact that the Ebola outbreak is now over. No one has ever been made to leave the country because his TPS amnesty expired.

How Facebook Blacklists Conservative News Outlets on Trending Topics

Female Jihadi Taken Down With Poison Arrow

Authorities in northern Cameroon say a local self-defense group used a poisoned arrow to kill a woman with explosives strapped to her body.

Midjiyawa Bakary, the governor of Cameroon's Far North region, said Wednesday that the 40-year-old woman had crossed over from neighboring Nigeria along with a 14-year-old girl.

Local residents shot the poisoned arrow at the woman after she failed to stop as demanded. The girl also died when she detonated her own explosives.

Cass Sunstein: The World According to Star Wars

Sunstein is a law professor best known for his idea of having the government 'nudge' people into 'better' choices. But in a new book he uses Star Wars as a way to understand being a parent, a child, and human. I have misgivings given his past but am also intrigued to see what he does with this idea.

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Why Pen Caps Have Holes in Them

"Grains crops transformed the politics of the societies that grew them, while tubers held them back."

What Was James Earl Ray Up To Between the Assassination of MLK and His Arrest a Month Later

Armed robbery and other shenanigans in London and Spain.

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Study shows that the more you like your car's personality, the more likely you are to wreck it

And this man must have loved his McLaren 650S's personality so, so very much that he wrecked it within 10 minutes of delivery.

wreckedmclaren

Why Your Backyard Playground is Problematic

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Why Jennifer Aniston Is The World's Most Beautiful Woman

According to other women - and is as the article explains girl-pretty but not necessarily boy-pretty.

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The Group knows your sins but doesn't care.

Tonight's post brought to you by this man:

augustlandmesser

Notice: Posted by implicit permission of AceCorp LLC. Sayonara bitchez!

Posted by: Maetenloch at 11:27 PM




Comments

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1 First in war
First in peace
First on the ONT of my countrymen!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 04, 2016 11:28 PM (NeFrd)

2 Woot woot ONT

Will miss you Maet

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 11:29 PM (voOPb)

3 Have a great trip, Maet -- and know we'll be thinking of you every night. Try to leave breadcrumbs or something.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2016 11:30 PM (EzgxV)

4 Top ten.

Enjoy your trip Maet, take care.

Posted by: Blano at May 04, 2016 11:30 PM (heN73)

5 Catbus!

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 04, 2016 11:31 PM (9ltS8)

6 I only came to say I must be going.

Posted by: Josephistan at May 04, 2016 11:31 PM (7qAYi)

7 Lights Out For Venezuela?

Venezuelan President Maduro is taking an increasingly naked dictatorial role, going to far as to end democracy as it is of no further use to him, and seems hellbent on destroying his own country.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=11632

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 04, 2016 11:32 PM (vBeA5)

8 Forever returns.

Posted by: I Want a New Party at May 04, 2016 11:33 PM (HXx+D)

9 Kids are chewing pen caps, rather than have to consume a Moochle UnHappyMeal.

Conversely, this here ONT is nutritionally rich, tasty and clearly laden with scrumptious, luxurious fat.

Good work, Maet!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Ozero at May 04, 2016 11:34 PM (McRlu)

10 7: Get ready for more immigrants. I'm sure they are all pillars of the community.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 04, 2016 11:34 PM (ucDmr)

11 Oh, damb. A Yoko Ono quote to start the ONT.

Posted by: tbodie at May 04, 2016 11:34 PM (Ade6D)

12 "We're going to win biggly."

I got the DT blues
and they don't seem to stop.

Posted by: I Want a New Party at May 04, 2016 11:35 PM (HXx+D)

13 Quick question before I leave: are kids not allowed to bring lunches to school anymore? Why would they have to starve?

Posted by: Blano at May 04, 2016 11:35 PM (heN73)

14 "Why pen caps gave holes in them"

Reads like Bic came up with idea all on their own. If so, double plus good for them.

Posted by: tbodie at May 04, 2016 11:37 PM (Ade6D)

15 11 Oh, damb. A Yoko Ono quote to start the ONT.
Posted by: tbodie at May 04, 2016 11:34 PM (Ade6D)

Kwityerbitchin it could've been nude yoko

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 11:37 PM (voOPb)

16 One non-sieg-heiler out of a couple hundred. That's how I feel most days.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 04, 2016 11:38 PM (NeFrd)

17 So, when will Maet post a GIF from the Ghibli movie about racoons with giant magical testicles?

Posted by: Testes... Testes... 1, 2,... 3? at May 04, 2016 11:39 PM (vBeA5)

18 Cass Sunstein is one of the most evil people on the planet. "Nudge" is about annoying people to a state just shy of rebellion about stupid, petty things -- because then you can maintain that state forever by backing-off if challenged or increasing it if not....that way, you don't have to worry about actual rebellion because people have used up their pissed-off quota going-on about transgendered bathrooms.



In a righteous and just world, he would be keelhauled; burned at the stake; hung, drawn and quartered; flayed alive; waterboarded; precipitated from heights; and housed in prison with a 300-pound S+M sex maniac named "Bubba" (not necessarily in that order). Instead, he is a highly-regarded member of the Progressive inner circle.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2016 11:39 PM (EzgxV)

19 You would be more likely to be able to breathe around the outside of a pen cap in your trachea than through a small hole. I call B.S. on that supposed reason.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 04, 2016 11:39 PM (NeFrd)

20 Totoro FTW!

Posted by: Insomniac at May 04, 2016 11:39 PM (0mRoj)

21 Yoko's on C.P. Time.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2016 11:40 PM (EZebt)

22 Evening horde. Great content Maet.

Read the Yoko quote first and thought we were in for a world of hurt.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 04, 2016 11:40 PM (hlMPp)

23 To exactly no one's surprise, the Obama Department of Justice has sent a letter to North Carolina governor Pat McRory demanding that that the state "not comply with or enforce H.B. 2? - it's so-called transgender bathroom law.
----------------

Astoundingly, Obama has found a 'Right' which no one knew had existed for almost 50 years.

The Feds are using the usual extortion, withholding Federal education money.

Worst of all, the quisling NC Attorney General, Roy Cooper (D) probably will not defend the law.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2016 11:40 PM (9mTYi)

24 I'm glad I didn't need Cass Sunsteins take on SW to raise my kids

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 11:41 PM (voOPb)

25 Hi all
Am I wrong to find Jennifer Aniston attractive?

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 11:41 PM (5p18q)

26 August Landmesser. Interesting story Maet. I marvel at the quality of the information you put together 5x a week. Thanks.

And enjoy your trip.

Posted by: tbodie at May 04, 2016 11:42 PM (Ade6D)

27 Hey, where all da white wimmen at?

Posted by: Sheriff Bart at May 04, 2016 11:42 PM (sl+zA)

28 25 Hi all
Am I wrong to find Jennifer Aniston attractive?
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 11:41 PM (5p18q)


She's aged, but a young Jennifer Aniston was hot by any reasonable definition of the term.

Posted by: AD at May 04, 2016 11:42 PM (VtV1E)

29 Neighbors wife works at the local high school cafeteria as a cook.
She has complained about Michelle's school lunch program for the past three years. It's caused the school to end a contract with one lunch supplier, and now mandates everything is to be cooked onsite.

That doesn't sound bad, except it mandates what must be cooked and served as the article states. According to the wife, they throw out incredible amounts of food that the kids will not eat. The district's food costs have skyrocketed, necessitating restructuring the cafeteria program, raising lunch fees, and reducing the work force.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 04, 2016 11:43 PM (391wI)

30 Time? If I could turn it back . . .


Effin moonbat Yoko

Posted by: Cher at May 04, 2016 11:44 PM (JO9+V)

31 I recently saw on special on James Earl Ray, interesting I was 8 when MLK was killed

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 11:44 PM (voOPb)

32 Nice ONT Maet...

Yoko has genius ideas on shale too....

Cass Susterain is a male?

Could have fooled me.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 11:44 PM (g8Hfr)

33 Oh I don't know, I think the Jennifer Aniston from the stupid airline ads is still very much bangable

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 11:44 PM (5p18q)

34 Cass Sunstein is the sort of person who should be barred from commentary on Star Wars, ever. Stop taking the fun stuff from my life and turning it into Progressive screed-fuel!!

Posted by: exdem13 at May 04, 2016 11:44 PM (ry4ab)

35 Jennifer Aniston may be lesbian cat nip...

never did a thing for me.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 11:45 PM (g8Hfr)

36 19 You would be more likely to be able to breathe around the outside of a pen cap in your trachea than through a small hole. I call B.S. on that supposed reason.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 04, 2016 11:39 PM (NeFrd)



Seamus. Medical Science ought to test the thesis.

Y'think the Medical Researchers can leave a few hundred bourbon flavored Bic pen caps laying around in a certain candidate's campaign bus?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

P.S. cool hash dude. Nerd and Nerf mashup, there! A Nerf pocket protector, or ???

Posted by: Ozero at May 04, 2016 11:45 PM (McRlu)

37 Jennifer Aniston is attractive. World's most beautiful woman? Not by a long shot.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 04, 2016 11:45 PM (0mRoj)

38 34 Posted by: exdem13 at May 04, 2016 11:44 PM (ry4ab)


I liked Mama Cass when she was with the mamas and the papas....

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 11:45 PM (g8Hfr)

39 So its been a really crappy run, Barry with you and Moochie and the Red Diaper gang and the Big Payback and stuff. But I'm sure you will praise Prince globally for his selfless contribution dying intestate in the elevator on your watch and whatnot seeing how you are in so solid always and everywhere and knowing what we all stand for and what we are all about so the transition will flow the torch will be passed the fond memories of the historic firsts will flow from pens and lenses for decades to come. If not subpoenas.

Posted by: 80's music fan at May 04, 2016 11:45 PM (dGbOW)

40 Chemjeff you aren't wrong on Jennifer Aniston, she's an attractive lady

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 11:46 PM (voOPb)

41 25 Hi all
Am I wrong to find Jennifer Aniston attractive?
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 11:41 PM (5p18q)

Not at all. She's as hot as a pan fried steak.

Posted by: The Cookie Man at May 04, 2016 11:46 PM (/2rJa)

42 11 Oh, damb. A Yoko Ono quote to start the ONT.
Posted by: tbodie at May 04, 2016 11:34 PM (Ade6D)

Kwityerbitchin it could've been nude yoko.

Serious question, will any of the substitute ONT COBS have legal authority to drag us through a YO thread? Cause if not, 3 weeks to party!

Posted by: tbodie at May 04, 2016 11:47 PM (Ade6D)

43 Godspeed Maet.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at May 04, 2016 11:47 PM (GzDYP)

44 23 To exactly no one's surprise, the Obama Department of Justice has sent a letter to North Carolina governor Pat McRory demanding that that the state "not comply with or enforce H.B. 2? - it's so-called transgender bathroom law.
----------------

Astoundingly, Obama has found a 'Right' which no one knew had existed for almost 50 years.

The Feds are using the usual extortion, withholding Federal education money.

Worst of all, the quisling NC Attorney General, Roy Cooper (D) probably will not defend the law.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2016 11:40 PM (9mTYi)



I'm thinking you're off by two orders of magnitude.....try "a 'Right' which no one knew had existed for almost 5000 years."

Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2016 11:47 PM (EzgxV)

45 I wanted to let everyone know my little friend Lexi passed away. Thank you to all who prayed for her.
Lexi was returning from a trip to Lourdes with her mother, she passed away on the plane.
She was in people last week.
God bless you Lexi.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jjdyuwb

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 04, 2016 11:47 PM (egOGm)

46 Not at all. She's as hot as a pan fried steak.

Posted by: The Cookie Man at May 04, 2016 11:46 PM (/2rJa)

Oh I don't know if she's *that* hot, after all, steaks can get pretty hot

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 11:48 PM (5p18q)

47 Just dive-bombing the ONT.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 11:48 PM (9ym/8)

48 Herein follows the exdem fatwa: Cass Sunstein is hereby told to cease and desist from turning popular entertainment with otherwise uplifting and education all messages into Proglodyte agitprop pablum. If he shall not cease and desist from this behavior he shall be targeted by AoSHQ murderhobo squads. He shall count as 100 hobos towards the bounty for measuring admission into the AoS paradise. May the God of Battles and His disciple Colonel Colt be praised!

Posted by: exdem13 at May 04, 2016 11:48 PM (ry4ab)

49 CaliGirl, I'm so sorry

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 11:48 PM (5p18q)

50 44 Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2016 11:47 PM (EzgxV)


It's BETTER than that...the batshit crazy leftoid position is that LBGTABCXYZ Bathroom rights were covered by the 14th amendment as ANYONE can plainly see.

Remember these are people that can find ENDLESS nuance in the 1st and 2d amendments but understand implicitly that the Abolitionists were protecting the rights of Bruce Jenner.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 11:49 PM (g8Hfr)

51
One non-sieg-heiler out of a couple hundred. That's how I feel most days.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 04, 2016 11:38 PM (NeFrd)
-------------------------

I assumed he was scratching his dick.

Posted by: iforgot at May 04, 2016 11:50 PM (5o5ek)

52 45 Posted by: CaliGirl at May 04, 2016 11:47 PM (egOGm)


I am sorry for your loss, she had a fine smile.

I hate cancer.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 11:50 PM (g8Hfr)

53 So chemjeff is going to burn Jennifer?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 11:50 PM (voOPb)

54 Cool. So faster-than-light travel is now possible, thanks to Yoko clearing up that misconception. I'll start working on a prototype yesterday.

Posted by: Crimso at May 04, 2016 11:50 PM (uCLNU)

55 Hey everybody.

IMHO Jennifer Aniston is mostly attractive because in all these years, I don't think I've ever heard her *once* mouth off about politics... or anything else.

She seems to genuinely realize how fortunate she is.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 04, 2016 11:50 PM (ntObR)

56 Fatwa on Michelle Obama for heaping misery on schoolchildren everywhere like workhouse orphans in a Dickens novel TBA.

Posted by: exdem13 at May 04, 2016 11:51 PM (ry4ab)

57 45 I wanted to let everyone know my little friend Lexi passed away. Thank you to all who prayed for her.
Lexi was returning from a trip to Lourdes with her mother, she passed away on the plane.
She was in people last week.
God bless you Lexi.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jjdyuwb

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 04, 2016 11:47 PM (egOGm)

Sounds like a wonderful girl. The world is made a poorer place by her departure.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 04, 2016 11:51 PM (0mRoj)

58 Cali Girl. Prayers for your Lexi, her family, and for you, ma'am.

Sent.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Ozero at May 04, 2016 11:51 PM (McRlu)

59 Hey Yoko! I put time in a bottle!

Posted by: Zombie Jim Croce at May 04, 2016 11:51 PM (JO9+V)

60 the kubler-ross model? denial? anger? depression?

dude!

we cant't vote for clinton & we can't vote for trump...

we don't have to vote!

paaarrrttttaaaayyyyy!!!!!!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 04, 2016 11:52 PM (WTSFk)

61 *dancing around naked on the lawn because I just saw a message that I missed a day ago


Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 04, 2016 11:52 PM (hlMPp)

62 56 Posted by: exdem13 at May 04, 2016 11:51 PM (ry4ab)


if they were like prior generations her antics would turn them into Reagan babies...

instead they'll be Trigglypuffs.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 11:52 PM (g8Hfr)

63 In the previous thread, Broseidon wrote:

We should just make the HQ a movie review site until November...

I disagree. I think this blog should be about strategizing our way to 2018 and beyond, rather than giving up and "letting it burn." IMHO we need to anyway, *regardless* of whether Hillary beats Donald or not.

But as I've said before, I'm Pollyanna down to the cutesy sockies.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 04, 2016 11:52 PM (ntObR)

64 CaliGirl, hugs and condolences. What a special young lady.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 04, 2016 11:52 PM (391wI)

65 What happened to Chemmy?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 11:53 PM (9ym/8)

66
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2016 11:39 PM (EzgxV)

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I stand by every word you said.

Posted by: iforgot at May 04, 2016 11:53 PM (5o5ek)

67 31 I recently saw on special on James Earl Ray, interesting I was 8 when MLK was killed
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 11:44 PM (voOPb)

---

I was cocooned in my mom's womb.

Who knew that I would experience the 1968 riots almost 48 years laters

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 04, 2016 11:53 PM (rlfds)

68 CaliGirl, prayers for you and Lexi's family.

Posted by: tbodie at May 04, 2016 11:53 PM (Ade6D)

69 Does anyone really know what time it is?

Posted by: Chicago at May 04, 2016 11:53 PM (JO9+V)

70 63 Posted by: qdpsteve at May 04, 2016 11:52 PM (ntObR)


Difference between the US and Titanic?

Captain Smith did not insist on hitting the iceberg friend.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 11:54 PM (g8Hfr)

71 Old daythread sock OFF!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 04, 2016 11:54 PM (McRlu)

72 I turned 2 in 1968.

As I've said before, the more I learn about the world then... the more glad I am, I couldn't remember it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 04, 2016 11:54 PM (ntObR)

73 45 I wanted to let everyone know my little friend Lexi passed away. Thank you to all who prayed for her.
Lexi was returning from a trip to Lourdes with her mother, she passed away on the plane.
She was in people last week.
God bless you Lexi.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jjdyuwb

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 04, 2016 11:47 PM (egOGm)




I'm sorry to hear, Caligirl. So many have expressed so much love for her, she must have shone like a beacon.....and, now, that light has gone out of our reckoning -- to light the halls of Heaven.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2016 11:54 PM (EzgxV)

74 May her memory be a blessing.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2016 11:54 PM (EZebt)

75 My lunch ladies made runzas in grade school, Jr high, and highschool. Couldn't ask for more. Except for sloppy Joe day.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 04, 2016 11:54 PM (rgXmo)

76 The Jennifer Aniston article struck me as thoroughly tongue-in-cheek.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 04, 2016 11:55 PM (fC9RO)

77 Sven, but I'd hope at least we can try to cram as many of our side into the lifeboats as humanly possible.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 04, 2016 11:55 PM (ntObR)

78 31
I recently saw on special on James Earl Ray, interesting I was 8 when MLK was killed
-----------
You look younger here at AoSHQ.
I do remember that the mandatory films on St. Martin did NOT mention that James Earl Ray skipped around for a month being a garden variety criminal after being an evil tool of Oppression and Racism.

Posted by: exdem13 at May 04, 2016 11:55 PM (ry4ab)

79
46 Not at all. She's as hot as a pan fried steak.

Posted by: The Cookie Man at May 04, 2016 11:46 PM (/2rJa)
Oh I don't know if she's *that* hot, after all, steaks can get pretty hot

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 11:48 PM (5p18q)



Would you believe, hot as a pan-fried steak is supposed to be?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2016 11:55 PM (EzgxV)

80 RK - Fist bump: http://tinyurl.com/ha9nrdq

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2016 11:55 PM (9mTYi)

81 Prayers for comfort CaliGirl.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 04, 2016 11:55 PM (hlMPp)

82 CG, what happened?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 11:55 PM (9ym/8)

83 RE: the Justice Departments "rights", I give you the following listed on the website of our local school cafeteria under it's current lunch menu page.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) prohibits discrimination against its customers, employees, and applicants for employment on the bases of race, color, national origin, age, disability, sex, gender identity, religion, reprisal and, where applicable, political beliefs, marital status, familial or parental status, sexual orientation, or if all or part of an individual's income is derived from any public assistance program, or protected genetic information in employment or in any program or activity conducted or funded by the Department.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 04, 2016 11:56 PM (391wI)

84 CaliGirl, that has got to be heartbreaking. Prayers going up.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 04, 2016 11:56 PM (ntObR)

85 Why Pen Caps Have Holes in Them

So, normal people have to suffer with crappy pen caps thanks to a bunch of retards who can't tell the difference between food and writing supplies?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 04, 2016 11:56 PM (zc3Db)

86
>>>Who knew that I would experience the 1968 riots almost 48 years laters


SMFH, The thing about mankind is that we are stupid and we usually do the same shit over & over

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 11:56 PM (voOPb)

87 77 Posted by: qdpsteve at May 04, 2016 11:55 PM (ntObR)


a nice sentiment...but the US is gonna be more like the Hindenburg...or not....

as was once said of Austria-Hungary "there's a lot of rot in an empire"

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 11:56 PM (g8Hfr)

88 Grain crops... demonstration leaping to the conclusion, violating cause and effect, redefining words, and preconception while ignoring the obvious.

Point made, grain crops that store easily, are easily taxed. The point being that government taxes are all too often, theft.

Posted by: Loran Gerban at May 04, 2016 11:57 PM (ZTIR7)

89 Who knew that I would experience the 1968 riots almost 48 years laters
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 04, 2016 11:53 PM (rlfds)

I remember the '68 riots, wasn't old enough to understand it at the time. Damn Hillary and her reset button.

Posted by: tbodie at May 04, 2016 11:57 PM (Ade6D)

90 One non-sieg-heiler out of a couple hundred. That's how I feel most days.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 04, 2016 11:38 PM (NeFrd)
-------------------------

I assumed he was scratching his dick


*****

Still describes how I feel most days.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 04, 2016 11:57 PM (NeFrd)

91 63 In the previous thread, Broseidon wrote:

We should just make the HQ a movie review site until November...

I disagree. I think this blog should be about strategizing our way to 2018 and beyond, rather than giving up and "letting it burn." IMHO we need to anyway, *regardless* of whether Hillary beats Donald or not.

But as I've said before, I'm Pollyanna down to the cutesy sockies.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 04, 2016 11:52 PM (ntObR)


We each have 10 kids a piece and try to outnumber the opposition in 30 years?

That's the only idea I've got.

Posted by: AD at May 04, 2016 11:57 PM (VtV1E)

92
So, normal people have to suffer with crappy pen
caps thanks to a bunch of retards who can't tell the difference between
food and writing supplies?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 04, 2016 11:56 PM (zc3Db)


I think it's mostly kids who chew on the pen caps, and for the adults who do it's more a nervous habit.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 04, 2016 11:57 PM (fC9RO)

93 sven, "oh the humanity!!" ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 04, 2016 11:57 PM (ntObR)

94 Damn, CaliGirl. What a sweet little girl.

Posted by: stace at May 04, 2016 11:58 PM (ozZau)

95 70 63 Posted by: qdpsteve at May 04, 2016 11:52 PM (ntObR)


Difference between the US and Titanic?

Captain Smith did not insist on hitting the iceberg friend.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 11:54 PM (g8Hfr)

Sometimes you hit the iceberg, and sometimes the iceberg, it hits you.

Posted by: Insert witty name here at May 04, 2016 11:58 PM (J3UIw)

96 AD, that's one idea. Seriously. If you *can* have 10 kids and can afford them, and know you could love them all, that's a heckuva lot better in my book than just giving up.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 04, 2016 11:58 PM (ntObR)

97 I think that they got cause and effect mixed up on that potatoes v. grain study. Potatoes were fine until the Irish got hold of them then civilization collapsed. And don't even get me started on what the Russkis did with potatoes.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 04, 2016 11:58 PM (Nwg0u)

98 Friends was a stupid fucking show. She made it worthwhile that first season. Smoking.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 04, 2016 11:59 PM (89T5c)

99 According to other women - and is as the article explains girl-pretty but not necessarily boy-pretty.

Because women like to promote other women as "pretty" who aren't so much so that they compare more favorably. And also because women generally don't want to accept that men like what they do.

Jennifer Aniston is cute, but that's about it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 05, 2016 12:00 AM (zc3Db)

100 Anniston is massively overrated.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 05, 2016 12:00 AM (hVdx9)

101 The fundamental things apply
As thyme goes stale

Posted by: Dooley Simon von Garfunkle at May 05, 2016 12:01 AM (7cqHD)

102 Time passages, Yoko. Time. Passages.

Posted by: Al Stewart at May 05, 2016 12:01 AM (JO9+V)

103 96 Posted by: qdpsteve at May 04, 2016 11:58 PM (ntObR)


One word encapsulates EVERYTHING wrong with America right now.

"Patrimony"

Unless and until the GOP starts living up to the denial of impulse pursuit of the SOTA and frippery and embraces frugality to the point it is reembraced American Liberty is doomed.

"Patrimony" b/c my kids' are MY kids not yours Hillary.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 05, 2016 12:01 AM (g8Hfr)

104 Aniston doesn't get brownie points for appearing in the greatest comedy of all time, Office Space?

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2016 12:01 AM (ntObR)

105
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 04, 2016 11:47 PM (egOGm)

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That's so sad, CaliGirl, for you and for . . . the world. What a life to lose.

Posted by: iforgot at May 05, 2016 12:01 AM (5o5ek)

106 qdp, at the moment, I'm just burned out on politics. And it's not just sour grapes, because this didn't happen to me in 2008 or 2012. I'll still try to do well by my family and friends and my community, but as far as trying to figure out ways to assist conservatism writ nationally? I just don't have my heart in it right now.

That's not to say I want things to burn or that I'm completely giving up on this country. I'm just wiped out for the time being.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at May 05, 2016 12:02 AM (kumBu)

107 exdem13


Why thank you very much. Damn if I can remember what cable network carried it. They had all of the Canadian stuff, interview of his brother and others. Iirc Mlk was shot on a Thursday and I was watching Ironsides when the story broke

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 05, 2016 12:02 AM (voOPb)

108 Astoundingly, Obama has found a 'Right' which no one knew had existed for almost 50 years.

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It was right there next to ghey marriage the whole time.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 05, 2016 12:02 AM (Nwg0u)

109 .....I remember the '68 riots, wasn't old enough to understand it at the time. Damn Hillary and her reset button.

Posted by: tbodie at May 04, 2016 11:57 PM (Ade6D)



Well, she couldn't get the language right on the Russian reset button, and with her cokestroke-bottle glasses, she clearly missed the "reset", and hit rewind, instead.

Her "rewind" will make for some bad flashbacks for a whole lotta folks, too, I think.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 05, 2016 12:02 AM (McRlu)

110 And it frequently must have been cold on the Friends set, in spite of the lights.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 05, 2016 12:02 AM (JO9+V)

111 Heh MisHum,

I try not to make the same mistake...

Problem is, there's so many to make.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 05, 2016 12:03 AM (rlfds)

112 and I am bringing down the ONT and I won't...

Patrimony folks....

Patrimony

I have a migraine now and am going to go voluntary coma.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 05, 2016 12:03 AM (g8Hfr)

113 I think a lot of Anniston's appeal is that she was hot enough that it would be a level-up accomplishment for anyone to spike the ball in her end-zone -- while not being obviously out of everyone's league.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2016 12:03 AM (EzgxV)

114 *Anniston is massively overrated.*

^This^

(Insert some punchline from stereotypical big boobed hotty)

Posted by: tbodie at May 05, 2016 12:03 AM (Ade6D)

115 The Jennifer Aniston article struck me as thoroughly tongue-in-cheek.

Definitely. I liked the line, "we considered all women from European all the way to Northern European"

Posted by: t-bird at May 05, 2016 12:03 AM (Z58Xa)

116
The Jennifer Aniston article struck me as thoroughly tongue-in-cheek.

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It does say at the bottom the author is fictional.

Posted by: iforgot at May 05, 2016 12:04 AM (5o5ek)

117 Time passages, Yoko. Time. Passages.

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Year of the really old, ugly, howling, grumpy, alley cat.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 05, 2016 12:05 AM (Nwg0u)

118 Thank you everyone, she was a force of nature.
Ricardo, she was not doing well in France. Sleeping a lot, had to go to the hospital and have the fluid drained from her lung. The other lung had a drain. She passed on the plane. They had to emergency land in Canada. Her father and brother are on their way to say goodbye.
I'm in shock.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 05, 2016 12:05 AM (egOGm)

119 broseidon, that's fair. Take a break. We all need one right now.

It's just, here's my fear. I'm probably wrong about this scenario playing out over the next couple months, I even hope so, but here it is:

- We all pump ourselves up about Trump, try to keep our chins up.

- We all start to somehow believe that if he gets in, he will somehow be endowed with some type of magic incredible superhuman powers, and can actually clean up Washington in just four short years.

- He goes down in flames to Hillary in the general.

- We spend the next several months here going on and on about how, fuck it, America's not worth saving anymore. "Let it burn!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2016 12:05 AM (ntObR)

120 So that settles it. 46.5 grains of IMR 4064 is the load. Perfectly acceptable group - well, close to a group - @ 90 yards. Rested, with the 1955 HRA M1 Garand.


Spectacular day, sunny, air cool. Beautiful setting. Only sounds when not pulling the trigger were the Coast Guard guys at the adjacent range (instructor was using a whistle, hadn't heard that before) and the Border Patrol chopper meandering in the near distance.


Wish I'd spent all day there. Aside from the boom-stick fun, a feeling of being away from things. And things, mostly, me no like these day.


Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2016 12:05 AM (QDnY+)

121 Aniston doesn't get brownie points for appearing in the greatest comedy of all time, Office Space?

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2016 12:01 AM (ntObR)


Sure, but that doesn't affect her beauty ranking, which is a good, stable 7 1/2.

At the time that Friends first started Courtney Cox was much hotter than Aniston. Since then things have changed quite a bit for Cox but Aniston has stuck around a medium-well score.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 05, 2016 12:06 AM (zc3Db)

122 Whatever might fix this country is going to get us the White House, not the other way around. That's not sour grapes. Politics is downstream of culture.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 05, 2016 12:06 AM (VdICR)

123 Posted by: SMFH

I was generalizing which I shouldn't have.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 05, 2016 12:06 AM (voOPb)

124 I wanted to let everyone know my little friend Lexi passed away. Thank you to all who prayed for her.
Lexi was returning from a trip to Lourdes with her mother, she passed away on the plane.
She was in people last week.
God bless you Lexi.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jjdyuwb

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 04, 2016 11:47 PM (egOGm)


Thoughts & Prayers

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 05, 2016 12:07 AM (vBeA5)

125 45 I wanted to let everyone know my little friend Lexi passed away. Thank you to all who prayed for her.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 04, 2016 11:47 PM (egOGm)
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What a beauty, inside and out!
May light perpetual shine upon her.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 05, 2016 12:07 AM (T/5A0)

126 So, am I the only one that is turned off by Sophia Vegaras accent? Not her bewbs of course, but fuck, she has been in the US for 20 yrs. I swear her accent just gets worse the more famous she gets.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 05, 2016 12:07 AM (rgXmo)

127 Not at all. She's as hot as a pan fried steak.

Posted by: The Cookie Man at May 04, 2016 11:46 PM (/2rJa)


Nope. She's as hot as a docker's armpit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDHBCFROn1k

Posted by: The Budgie Hat at May 05, 2016 12:08 AM (vBeA5)

128 So, am I the only one that is turned off by Sophia Vegaras accent?

Yes, next question.

Posted by: AD at May 05, 2016 12:08 AM (VtV1E)

129 Wednesday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/727910504484765696

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/727910686018445312

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/727910864578293760

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/727911044958584832

Posted by: kbdabear at May 05, 2016 12:09 AM (C8A/z)

130 "- We spend the next several months here going on and on about how, fuck it, America's not worth saving anymore. "Let it burn!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2016 12:05 AM (ntObR) "

Whoever wins in November, the next month or two at the HQ will be messy. But I do think that for the most part we'll all be on the same page when January rolls around and President #45 is inaugurated, be it Trump or Hillary.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at May 05, 2016 12:09 AM (kumBu)

131 I think Anniston has aged very well, especially for a smoker.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 05, 2016 12:09 AM (egOGm)

132 Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2016 12:05 AM (QDnY+)

Everyone should take time away from the current affairs/news on a regular basis

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 05, 2016 12:10 AM (voOPb)

133 broseidon, perhaps. Wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2016 12:10 AM (ntObR)

134 Accents can get thicker again as people age. Arnold is past the peak of his English speaking.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 05, 2016 12:10 AM (VdICR)

135 I don't rely on time. Time is what man made for our convenience, and in reality, it does not exist.
-- Yoko Ono


Sooo... Yoko Ono is as wise a scientist as Kneel in De Grass TiesOn and Bile Nye. Who knew?

Gooooood ev'nin', Midnighters.

Posted by: mindful webworker starts over at May 05, 2016 12:10 AM (5a8XA)

136 More Wednesday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/727911250345271296

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/727911388199424000

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/727911512107589632

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/727911644706295812

Posted by: kbdabear at May 05, 2016 12:10 AM (C8A/z)

137 It does say at the bottom the author is fictional.
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Screw you!

Posted by: Guy Incognito at May 05, 2016 12:10 AM (f4AGl)

138 "broseidon, perhaps. Wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2016 12:10 AM (ntObR) "

I certainly understand the fear that this time will be different, that the wedge driven through the party by this acrimonious primary won't simply heal because we unite again to fight a common enemy.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at May 05, 2016 12:11 AM (kumBu)

139 I think Anniston has aged very well,

She's not all that old, I don't think. But her looks have stayed remarkably stable and she hasn't gone out and screwed her face up like so many pathetic actresses.

especially for a smoker.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 05, 2016 12:09 AM (egOGm)


Huh?

Nice to hear that she's a smoker, though.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 05, 2016 12:12 AM (zc3Db)

140 Point made, grain crops that store easily, are easily taxed. The point being that government taxes are all too often, theft.

Posted by: Loran Gerban at May 04, 2016 11:57 PM (ZTIR7)


This. I couldn't state it like that even in my mind, but this.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 05, 2016 12:12 AM (ry34m)

141 Walleye opener on Saturday. High temp prediction is 68. Friday they are talking 80s screw politics

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 05, 2016 12:13 AM (voOPb)

142 132 Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2016 12:05 AM (QDnY+)

Everyone should take time away from the current affairs/news on a regular basis
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 05, 2016 12:10 AM (voOPb)

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Afuckingmen.

Muddin', range time, growing orchids, pikake, and other tropical blooms helps a lot.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 05, 2016 12:13 AM (rlfds)

143 Mis. Hum., especially when it's to spend some time in some quiet beautiful back-country ..... firing a very loud high-power service rifle.


It's funny, there are some birds that must have nested nearby. They seem unperturbed by the gunfire. Perhaps another example of the greatest secret on the planet, shrouded by the efforts and limited intellects of most of the scientific establishment: man is weak, man is nothing, nature is powerful beyond conception.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2016 12:13 AM (QDnY+)

144 It does say at the bottom the author is fictional.

I identify as somewhat fictional everytime i enter a little gray box.

Posted by: tbodie at May 05, 2016 12:13 AM (Ade6D)

145 138 Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at May 05, 2016 12:11 AM (kumBu)


I distinctly remember being told in the wake of our losses in 2008 and 2012 that the GOP needed a non-religious, pro-choice, businessman to be the nominee....preferably from New England so we could "be competitive."

Here he is.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 05, 2016 12:13 AM (g8Hfr)

146 "It does say at the bottom the author is fictional.

I identify as somewhat fictional everytime i enter a little gray box.

Posted by: tbodie at May 05, 2016 12:13 AM (Ade6D) "

Really? Broseidon is the name on my birth certificate.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at May 05, 2016 12:14 AM (kumBu)

147 She's as hot as a pan fried steak.

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Mrs. Wrecks brought home something called Grost Pepper tonight. We had it on corn on the cob. Good, but hot.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 05, 2016 12:15 AM (Nwg0u)

148 So, am I the only one that is turned off by Sophia
Vegaras accent? Not her bewbs of course, but fuck, she has been in the
US for 20 yrs. I swear her accent just gets worse the more famous she
gets.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 05, 2016 12:07 AM (rgXmo)

No. She's this generation's Charo.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 05, 2016 12:15 AM (JO9+V)

149 Jennifer Aniston

[X] Would hit
[ ] Would not hit

Posted by: rickl at May 05, 2016 12:15 AM (sdi6R)

150 Yoko doesn't F'n love science.

Favorite "time" story: I was rock climbing with some friends and a non-climber walking by asks, "How long does it take climb that?" My friend responded, "I don't know - don't own a watch. Takes less than a day!"

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at May 05, 2016 12:15 AM (VSenK)

151 I will! & today is my first day! I'll keep you posted on when we can do lunch.
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Score!

And the Penguins beat the Caps or the Caps beat the Penguins.

Two favorite teams so good night all around.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2016 12:16 AM (hlMPp)

152 No. She's this generation's Charo.
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 05, 2016 12:15 AM (JO9+V)

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Heh.

Oh yeah.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 05, 2016 12:16 AM (rlfds)

153 Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at May 05, 2016 12:14 AM (kumBu)

Posted by: tbodie at May 05, 2016 12:16 AM (Ade6D)

154 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at
Smoking can be bad for your skin, she doesn't have that weird puffy face. If she's had work it's excellent.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 05, 2016 12:16 AM (egOGm)

155 Pen caps with holes in them are not new.

Kids markers have had ventilated caps for years and years. They have tiny holes all round the edges.

Posted by: sexypig at May 05, 2016 12:17 AM (dZQh7)

156 Anniston is still unbelievably hot. Her not being with someone there must be something wrong with her,

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2016 12:17 AM (hlMPp)

157 119 broseidon, that's fair. Take a break. We all need one right now.

It's just, here's my fear. I'm probably wrong about this scenario playing out over the next couple months, I even hope so, but here it is:

- We all pump ourselves up about Trump, try to keep our chins up.

- We all start to somehow believe that if he gets in, he will somehow be endowed with some type of magic incredible superhuman powers, and can actually clean up Washington in just four short years.

- He goes down in flames to Hillary in the general.

- We spend the next several months here going on and on about how, fuck it, America's not worth saving anymore. "Let it burn!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2016 12:05 AM (ntObR)




There is a story that dates back 2000 years, to a time when rich men were routinely hauled before the Roman Emperor, accused of treason, and sentenced to death.....so that their forfeited estates could fill the Imperial treasury.



One man was hauled in, terrified, and was asked why he should be allowed to live. Stammering, looking about wildly, he spied Caesar's horse (which was standing in a corner of the audience chamber) -- and blurted out: "I am a man of great talents -- I could teach that horse to sing!"



Nonplussed, Caesar paused.....then chuckled, then laughed-out-loud. He called to his guards and told them to unbind the man, and give him the lead to the horse. He then declared that he would see this horse sing within the year or the man's life was forfeit.



As he passed out of the Imperial Palace, horse in tow, he was met by some friends. "What is wrong with you?", they said -- "you are now under a sentence of death. You know damned well that nobody has ever taught a horse to sing."



And the man replied, "my friends, there is a lot that can happen in a year. I could die naturally. Rome might fall. Caesar could die......or, the horse, it could sing!"



There is a lot that can happen between now and the convention; there is a lot that can happen between now and the election; there is a lot that can happen between now and the inauguration.....or Donald Trump might be a great President.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2016 12:17 AM (EzgxV)

158 CaliGirl, sorry for the loss of your friend.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 05, 2016 12:17 AM (hVdx9)

159 Also, if you are designing any product that might become something a kid would eat, make it slightly more than 1.25" in size to pass the small parts choking hazard.

Posted by: sexypig at May 05, 2016 12:17 AM (dZQh7)

160 >>Muddin', range time, growing orchids, pikake, and other tropical blooms helps a lot.

Last weekend was atv weekend

Sunday will be working in the flower beds all 10 of them.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 05, 2016 12:17 AM (voOPb)

161 Yoko's still got it. That quote blows my mind. It's existential and shit.

Posted by: otho at May 05, 2016 12:18 AM (EWg9n)

162 Lake Erie walleye fish fry was the best thing ever had, fish wise.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 05, 2016 12:18 AM (rgXmo)

163 Wow, i found Waldo in the picture, I never new he was a nazi.

Posted by: KIllerdog at May 05, 2016 12:18 AM (PmraW)

164 My kid's history book says government took off in Mesopotamia because the farmland there demanded irrigation. Which means maintenance. Which means organization.

They also had few trees so they learned to bake mud = pottery = chemistry begins.

Posted by: sexypig at May 05, 2016 12:19 AM (dZQh7)

165 Charo is a classical guitarist, by the way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmNPXqG6ovg

Posted by: Kindltot at May 05, 2016 12:19 AM (ry34m)

166 Anniston is still unbelievably hot. Her not being with someone there must be something wrong with her,

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2016 12:17 AM (hlMPp)


Taylor Swift is hot. Has 500 songs about guys leaving her and 0 songs about giving blowjobs. Get where I'm going with this?

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 05, 2016 12:20 AM (JO9+V)

167 Potatoes vs. Grain

Grain is more of a liquid asset. It can be harvested and stored with much less of a risk of spoilage. Grain is easier to transport, and is easier to use in trade. Grain is more like money than potatoes.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 05, 2016 12:21 AM (R+30W)

168 Taylor Swift is hot.

You really think so? I think she's odd-looking. Way too scrawny as well.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at May 05, 2016 12:21 AM (0mRoj)

169 At least Charro is a world-class classical guitar player.

Was a world-class Coochie Coochie girl, too. But, that not so much now.

She, and even the legendary Sophia Loren.... well, we all have a best "sell-by" date, and theirs lasted far longer than most.

Mine expired somewhere around 1994 or so.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 05, 2016 12:21 AM (McRlu)

170 166 Anniston is still unbelievably hot. Her not being with someone there must be something wrong with her,

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2016 12:17 AM (hlMPp)


Taylor Swift is hot. Has 500 songs about guys leaving her and 0 songs about giving blowjobs. Get where I'm going with this?

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 05, 2016 12:20 AM (JO9+V)

*thumbs up wink wink

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2016 12:21 AM (hlMPp)

171 Reading the stuff about the Obama regime reminds me that we, as a society, are desperately stupid and masochistic. A free, mature and diligent people would not tolerate this crap. America as a whole not only tolerates it but happily begs for more.

Posted by: Commissar M at May 05, 2016 12:21 AM (jVf2J)

172 Wow, i found Waldo in the picture, I never new he was a nazi.
Posted by: KIllerdog at May 05, 2016 12:18 AM (PmraW)


Probably SPD. No Hitler salute, Ja?

Posted by: Kindltot at May 05, 2016 12:22 AM (ry34m)

173 It was right there next to ghey marriage the whole time.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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We deliberately placed it in plain view.

Posted by: Founding Fathers at May 05, 2016 12:22 AM (9mTYi)

174 cthulhu, history is full of failed states, bad and good leaders, and utopian schemes that sputter out.

Trump / Hillary won't matter that much.

In 10,000 years, they will be a name on a King's List.

Posted by: sexypig at May 05, 2016 12:22 AM (dZQh7)

175 "you are now under a sentence of death. You know damned well that nobody has ever taught a horse to sing."

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He's just lucky he didn't promise to teach Yoko to sing.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 05, 2016 12:22 AM (Nwg0u)

176 Don't like pens with caps. I prefer pens with the thing that goes up.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 05, 2016 12:22 AM (k4M/B)

177 Anniston is still unbelievably hot. Her not being with someone there must be something wrong with her,

Posted by: RWC -
****

Flaming left wing twat.
She loved when Brad would tease (in a mean way) one of Bush's daughters, who had been in trouble over it, about drinking. I guess said daughter was an intern or something at a studio.
It was clear Jennifer thought it was okay to go after the kid of a Republican simply because her dad was a Republican.
Bet money she would pitch a fit if someone did that one of Obama's daughters.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 05, 2016 12:23 AM (hVdx9)

178 Why Pen Caps Have Holes in Them

In these tumultuous times of terror and societal collapse, I'm grateful Captain Maetenloch brings us the information that is vital.

Posted by: mindful webworker hazards choking at May 05, 2016 12:23 AM (5a8XA)

179 Anybody notice a big boo-boo in the James Earl Ray story? They showed photographs purportedly of two different hotel rooms he occupied in London, but they are the same photo, flipped left to right, and one is black and white, one color. Same saggy bed, same wallpaper, same fixtures. Same room.


Presumably an editing goof, since I can't think of a reason for deliberately muddying those waters.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 05, 2016 12:23 AM (wZhAq)

180 You really think so? I think she's odd-looking. Way too scrawny as well.


Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at May 05, 2016 12:21 AM (0mRoj)

Not hot at all but I get the point he was making.

*meanwhile...dance dance dance

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2016 12:23 AM (hlMPp)

181 115 I liked the line, "we considered all women from European all the way to Northern European"
Posted by: t-bird at May 05, 2016 12:03 AM (Z58Xa)
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I liked this one:
"Aniston's gorgeous spirit appealed to us as well. Seeing that Jen was able to stay strong and keep believing in love after Brad Pitt left her for Angelina Jolie helped me to do the same when my second husband left me after only six years of marriage and eight years of my endless criticism."

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 05, 2016 12:24 AM (T/5A0)

182 Taylor Swift is not hot. Looks like she undernourished. No thanks.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 05, 2016 12:24 AM (hVdx9)

183 RWC
I think Anniston is married to the guy in the TV show the leftovers.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 05, 2016 12:25 AM (egOGm)

184 48 deg. now and dropping. May touch 40 tonight. Because, Global Warming.

Posted by: Founding Fathers at May 05, 2016 12:25 AM (9mTYi)

185 Totoro is the bomb. Love that Mitsubishi animation.

Posted by: Corona at May 05, 2016 12:25 AM (ragzU)

186 good night all
condolences, CaliGirl

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 05, 2016 12:25 AM (uAvJJ)

187 Wallie Simpson was rather plain and a 2X divorcee. Yet King Edward gave up the throne for her. She knew how to get a man.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 05, 2016 12:26 AM (JO9+V)

188 This axiom - politics is downstream of culture - may be true, but it misses the point, in the case of the US. What made the US different was that most of real life was shielded from "politics" - limited government, *individual* sovereignty and rights, guardrail after guardrail.


It's not "culture" that ever allowed affirmative action, in any form, to exist for a nano-second (it obviously never should have, being a definitional violation of both constitutional and mainstream normative "rules").


"Culture" didn't propel selective limited marriage redefinition - in fact "culture" mostly rejected it.


"Culture" didn't have anything to do with a single justice just making s**t up out of thin air on federal tax law, or statutory construction, to rescue an idiotic, facially unconstitutional law or to allow comically lawless administrative dictate to (briefly) keep the activities it mandated (barely) oxygenated.


All these things happened not because "culture", but because dissolution of constitutional standards, of judicial integrity, and the breakdown of the rule of law.


Culture doesn't matter one way or the other, for what was the US system, if the guardrails and integrity and responsible behavior (termed "virtue" in previous eras) are gone.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2016 12:26 AM (QDnY+)

189 cthulhu #18: Cass Sunstein is one of the most evil people on the planet...

I thought she choked on a sandwich. Great voice, though.

O_o

Posted by: mindful webworker with gender-fluid mapas and pamas accompaniment at May 05, 2016 12:26 AM (5a8XA)

190
My country is still here. Under the layer of filth the progressive left has deposited on it.

Needs cleaning.

That has to begin--or continue--at the most basic level. DC isn't the place to pin hopes on.

In your community,your schools and local politics to the state level. All flows from that.

It means each of us gets involved, insignificant though it might seem.

I've beat on this for sometime,and it's gratifying to see that a few of you are realizing this.

A welcome break from the constant gloom and doom prevalent.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 05, 2016 12:26 AM (P/8aq)

191 By the way, I was asking a Brazilian lady what was the group that did The Girl From Ipanema.

She said, very unimpressed, "everyone"

Posted by: Kindltot at May 05, 2016 12:26 AM (ry34m)

192 I like Kug-Bau the Tavern Keeper, aka Kubaba:

You get about one line for being King. Here's Obama's:

"Obama, a prince of Hawaii, made many promises, and let his law be known to be {text broken} Iraq {text broken} school lunches {text broken} and thus he was replaced."

Posted by: sexypig at May 05, 2016 12:26 AM (dZQh7)

193 Reading the stuff about the Obama regime reminds me that we, as a society, are desperately stupid and masochistic. A free, mature and diligent people would not tolerate this crap. America as a whole not only tolerates it but happily begs for more.

-
This entire list of the wisdom of the ancients is good but my favorite:

"Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms." -- Aristotle

http://tinyurl.com/jv9nnvl

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 05, 2016 12:26 AM (Nwg0u)

194 Chemjeff,
Goodnight and thank you.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 05, 2016 12:27 AM (egOGm)

195 >>>Tonight's post brought to you by this man:

I'm just glad that didn't turn into another story about Ted Cruz's father.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 05, 2016 12:27 AM (R+30W)

196 Taylor Swift is hot. Has 500 songs about guys leaving her and 0 songs about giving blowjobs.


All y'all were thinkig it.


Well, maybe not the Ettes.

Posted by: tbodie at May 05, 2016 12:27 AM (Ade6D)

197 irongrampa, yup.

And cthulhu, also yup. Don't forget: "A lot can happen between 2016 and 2018, and a lot can happen between 2018 and 2020."

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2016 12:28 AM (ntObR)

198 189 cthulhu #18: Cass Sunstein is one of the most evil people on the planet...

I thought she choked on a sandwich. Great voice, though.

O_o

Posted by: mindful webworker with gender-fluid mapas and pamas accompaniment at May 05, 2016 12:26 AM (5a8XA)



That's close to a bumper sticker: "The Wrong Cass Choked On A Sandwich."

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2016 12:28 AM (EzgxV)

199 Well the Powerball rolled over, so back to work tomorrow.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 05, 2016 12:29 AM (hWrM7)

200 Tonight's post brought to you by this man.

That guy had balls of steel.

Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 05, 2016 12:29 AM (T/cxb)

201 I'm out, goodnight everyone and thank you all for the kind words. It's very much appreciated. My heart hurts.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 05, 2016 12:29 AM (egOGm)

202 Wallie Simpson was rather plain and a 2X divorcee. Yet King Edward gave up the throne for her. She knew how to get a man.

-
It was the spicy salsa she put into the Tijuana corkscrew.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 05, 2016 12:29 AM (Nwg0u)

203 "She was in people last week.
God bless you Lexi. "

Oh that last line of her article. God keep her.

Posted by: lauren at May 05, 2016 12:30 AM (Covpc)

204 Bush's King list entry:

In the reign of Bush the Younger, king of Usofa, the two towers fell, and the Bush the Younger, t was angered and smite the Babylonians as his father had. There was then an usurper Ker-Ri of the Horsefaces, but he was also smitten after giving the king a poisoned extremely dry twisted salt-bread.

Posted by: sexypig at May 05, 2016 12:30 AM (dZQh7)

205 sven10077: I liked Mama Cass...

Shoulda knowed someone would beat me to that bit.

h/t sven

Posted by: mindful webworker - great thoughts with but a single mind at May 05, 2016 12:30 AM (5a8XA)

206 183 RWC
I think Anniston is married to the guy in the TV show the leftovers.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 05, 2016 12:25 AM (egOGm)

Never seen it. But doesn't she have a problem with marriage and keeping someone? That's why I said there must be something wrong with her. She's beautiful but all her relationships go to shit.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2016 12:30 AM (hlMPp)

207 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh9LB4iYf0o

Goodnight. Have some Tubes.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 05, 2016 12:30 AM (ry34m)

208 She knew how to get a man.
Posted by: Count de Monet
------------

I've always suspected that Wallace must have had some serious bedroom skliz.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2016 12:30 AM (9mTYi)

209 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/727911644706295812

Posted by: kbdabear at May 05, 2016 12:10 AM (C8A/z)


You know, on some of these, we just just have to take your word for it that there are stompy boots.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 05, 2016 12:31 AM (wZhAq)

210 202 Wallie Simpson was rather plain and a 2X divorcee. Yet King Edward gave up the throne for her. She knew how to get a man.

-
It was the spicy salsa she put into the Tijuana corkscrew.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 05, 2016 12:29 AM (Nwg0u)



She didn't need a bottle opener to uncap Edward's bottles of Newcastle.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2016 12:31 AM (EzgxV)

211 "That guy had balls of steel.

Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 05, 2016 12:29 AM (T/cxb) "

Either that or he was just busy on his cell phone.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at May 05, 2016 12:31 AM (kumBu)

212 She's beautiful but all her relationships go to shit.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA
--------------

Common in Hollywood, I believe.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2016 12:32 AM (9mTYi)

213 Anybody watch the Janis Joplin program on PBS? And can you name the only singer that can match up today?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 05, 2016 12:32 AM (rgXmo)

214 Test

Posted by: stace at May 05, 2016 12:32 AM (ozZau)

215 Where'dja find a picture of one Cruz voter at a Trump rally?

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 05, 2016 12:32 AM (Kucy5)

216 Either that or he was just busy on his cell phone.

Early adopter, that one.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 05, 2016 12:32 AM (T/cxb)

217 Sven, here is an air crash video. Long before Sully. And guess what, the computers over-rode the pilots.

https://youtu.be/KWGxdz6-vTI

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 05, 2016 12:33 AM (hWrM7)

218 45 I wanted to let everyone know my little friend Lexi passed away. Thank you to all who prayed for her.
Lexi was returning from a trip to Lourdes with her mother, she passed away on the plane.
She was in people last week.
God bless you Lexi.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jjdyuwb

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 04, 2016 11:47 PM (egOGm)

It's not fair CaliGirl that someone so young has to go through such a thing. You have my deepest sympathy.

Posted by: KIllerdog at May 05, 2016 12:33 AM (PmraW)

219 And the office crush accepted lunch enthusiastically which is why I'm dancing around

*sometimes G*d gives you a helping hand

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2016 12:33 AM (hlMPp)

220 I've always suspected that Wallace must have had some serious bedroom skliz.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2016 12:30 AM (9mTYi)


Her first husband was a U.S. Naval Aviator. So yup.
Tailhook

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 05, 2016 12:33 AM (JO9+V)

221 re: Jennifer Aniston

I think Instapundit honed in to the heart of that story.
Back when she was on Friends, Aniston's constantly-erect nipples made her guy-pretty.
http://tinyurl.com/jon4bzq

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 05, 2016 12:34 AM (R+30W)

222 heh. Watching 'Foreign Affair'.

Marlena Dietrich -"Step up! Don't be bashful boys."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2016 12:34 AM (9mTYi)

223 13:
kids are restricted for what you can send in my grandkids school district. I was evil one day and sent my grandson with homemade smoked salmon is how I know (evil grin)

Posted by: FCF at May 05, 2016 12:35 AM (kejii)

224 SMFH, The thing about mankind is that we are stupid and we usually do the same shit over & over

Agreed. For example, attending an Oakland Raiders game expecting them to win this time when experience should tell you that they'll lose yet again and you'll end up nursing a minor stab wound.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 05, 2016 12:35 AM (KRwzj)

225 I drank the slab that Bon Scott drunk

Injected some of Hendrix junk

I booked a seat on Lynyrd Skynyrd's plane

Mama Cass's sandwich? I ate the same.

Posted by: otho at May 05, 2016 12:35 AM (EWg9n)

226 @45

Godspeed, Lexi.
Prayers for you, her family and all her loved ones, Cali.

Posted by: Chi at May 05, 2016 12:36 AM (/9QbJ)

227 BTW I hope prayers are up, I live near a major military base and there is ALOT of movement. Hoping the ROE get changed soon...

Posted by: FCF at May 05, 2016 12:37 AM (kejii)

228 219 And the office crush accepted lunch enthusiastically which is why I'm dancing around

*sometimes G*d gives you a helping hand
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2016 12:33 AM (hlMPp)

Sometimes he gives you the finger, but in this case, good for you!

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at May 05, 2016 12:37 AM (0mRoj)

229 People with way too much time on their hands...

My Neighbor Totoro as rendered in Occulus Rift

https://youtu.be/Yq4MRGUm4Jk

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 05, 2016 12:37 AM (hWrM7)

230 I think one reason that Sofia Vergara's accent is so bad is that she has been playing a caricature of the Latin bombshell for such a long time. The part calls for a comically thick accent. Maybe it becomes a habit --- or at least there's no benefit to correcting it.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 05, 2016 12:39 AM (T/5A0)

231 >>>*sometimes G*d gives you a helping hand


My wife married me when it was "Be kind to dumb animal week"

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 05, 2016 12:39 AM (voOPb)

232 "Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms." -- Aristotle

Socrates was turned off Democracy and his students, too.

I read a book about the tyrants of sicily and Sicily was just as messed up as Greece.

Posted by: sexypig at May 05, 2016 12:39 AM (dZQh7)

233 The answer is that nobody can match up with Janis Joplin. Not yet, prolly never.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 05, 2016 12:40 AM (rgXmo)

234 There is speculation that Wallis Simpson actually had CAIS, complete androgen insensitivity syndrome. It's one of many intersex conditions. CAIS are genetically XY, but her cells were absolutely unresponsive to androgens. That makes a female externally. But they have no uterus and are sterile.

Anyway, there's a lot of characteristics she had that are suggestive of that. And there are those who hotly dispute it. Only way to know for sure would be to dig her up and do the testing and that's not going to happen.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 05, 2016 12:41 AM (DW+jj)

235 I read a book about the tyrants of sicily and Sicily was just as messed up as Greece.

-
Sicily: the Detroit of the Mediterranean.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 05, 2016 12:41 AM (Nwg0u)

236 The answer is that nobody can match up with Janis Joplin. Not yet, prolly never.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 05, 2016 12:40 AM

Voice wise? Or, lifestyle wise?

Posted by: otho at May 05, 2016 12:42 AM (EWg9n)

237 The main lesson is mercenaries are not good to have hanging around your cities.

Posted by: sexypig at May 05, 2016 12:42 AM (dZQh7)

238 Especially mercenaries who want to be paid.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 05, 2016 12:43 AM (hWrM7)

239

Sometimes he gives you the finger, but in this case, good for you!


Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at May 05, 2016 12:37 AM (0mRoj)

Usually does. But I put Him in the passenger seat for this one and got off my ass and pursued it, (not like me at all.)

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2016 12:43 AM (hlMPp)

240 There is speculation that Wallis Simpson actually
had CAIS, complete androgen insensitivity syndrome. It's one of many
intersex conditions. CAIS are genetically XY, but her cells were
absolutely unresponsive to androgens. That makes a female externally.
But they have no uterus and are sterile.

Anyway, there's a lot
of characteristics she had that are suggestive of that. And there are
those who hotly dispute it. Only way to know for sure would be to dig
her up and do the testing and that's not going to happen.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 05, 2016 12:41 AM (DW+jj)


So Dude Looks Like A Lady?

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 05, 2016 12:46 AM (JO9+V)

241 232 "Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms." -- Aristotle

Socrates was turned off Democracy and his students, too.

I read a book about the tyrants of sicily and Sicily was just as messed up as Greece.

Posted by: sexypig at May 05, 2016 12:39 AM (dZQh7)




In other words, Republics become Democracies when Rules fall to Party; Democracies become Dictatorships when Party falls to a Tyrant.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2016 12:46 AM (EzgxV)

242 I'd put Amy Winehouse up against Janis Joplin. Both talented, bluesy singer songwriters. And, obviously, both corpses.


Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 05, 2016 12:46 AM (R+30W)

243 213 Anybody watch the Janis Joplin program on PBS? And can you name the only singer that can match up today?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby
------------
Adele?

Posted by: Chi at May 05, 2016 12:47 AM (/9QbJ)

244 I read a book about the tyrants of sicily and Sicily was just as messed up as Greece.

Well, I tried.

Posted by: Marcus Tullius Cicero at May 05, 2016 12:47 AM (6FqZa)

245 Caitlynn Jenner, feeling glamorous


Told two lezzies, "let's get amorous!"


They said, "ew, that's sick"


You've got a dick.


And you ain't got a clam for us.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 05, 2016 12:47 AM (wZhAq)

246 Night horde. Happy rainy ass Thursday.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2016 12:49 AM (hlMPp)

247 Nice poems. Vogon?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 05, 2016 12:50 AM (T/cxb)

248 Why Jennifer Aniston Is The World's Most Beautiful Woman

She isn't. But she's a perennial favorite of disgruntled women because she was dumped by Brad Pit for exotic beauty Angeline Jolie and her publicist really played that up for sympathy with women, giving her a career that was dying after Friends.

The answer is that nobody can match up with Janis Joplin.

True, it takes real talent to wail tone deaf and creaking like a bag lady on a 10 day bender.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 05, 2016 12:50 AM (39g3+)

249 242 I'd put Amy Winehouse up against Janis Joplin. Both talented, bluesy singer songwriters. And, obviously, both corpses.


Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 05, 2016 12:46 AM (R+30W)


That's who I was thinking of. I blanked out on her name.

Also Eva Cassidy. I'm thinking of sheer vocal talent, not necessarily the same style as Janis.

Can't think of anyone else in that league.

Posted by: rickl at May 05, 2016 12:50 AM (sdi6R)

250 Jenn was okay but Clooney's ass is the penultimate!

Posted by: Brad Pitt at May 05, 2016 12:51 AM (nckx1)

251 Nite morons
Be well

Maet have a great time

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 05, 2016 12:51 AM (voOPb)

252 Nice poems. Vogon?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 05, 2016 12:50 AM (T/cxb)


Close, but no cigar.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 05, 2016 12:51 AM (wZhAq)

253 Calling it a night everybody. Thanks for the great chat.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2016 12:51 AM (ntObR)

254 And the office crush accepted lunch enthusiastically which is why I'm dancing around

*sometimes G*d gives you a helping hand
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2016 12:33 AM (hlMPp)


Grats!

Posted by: HopefulMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 05, 2016 12:51 AM (1D4Ef)

255 As for Jennifer Aniston, you need to watch her in "Horrible Bosses". Talk about "BRB" material

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 05, 2016 12:52 AM (6FqZa)

256 Close, but no cigar.

Considering where the cigars have been, I'm grateful for that.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 05, 2016 12:52 AM (T/cxb)

257 Adele? A hardcore blues singer? Well I guess I should give you Winehouse though. Can you name one that lived a full life? Bessie Smith?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 05, 2016 12:53 AM (rgXmo)

258 Suzi Fucking Quatro. The most under rated blues boogie rock n roll belter of the last 50 years. Tina Fucking Turner. The queen of of voices.

Posted by: otho at May 05, 2016 12:54 AM (EWg9n)

259 Can you name one that lived a full life?

Well, that wouldn't be Janis, dead at 27

Yeah Tina Turner has unbelievable pipes, incredible voice.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 05, 2016 12:55 AM (39g3+)

260 Late for thread, just want to say:

GO PENS!!! WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Now win that last on. Winning the 4th is the hardest.

Back to reading the content!

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 05, 2016 12:55 AM (vZuaP)

261 Jennifer Aniston's only role I found her attractive in was Office Space but only because of the writing, not her personality. Which she seems to have none of.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 05, 2016 12:56 AM (39g3+)

262 Posted by: HopefulMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 05, 2016 12:51 AM (1D4Ef)

Thanks

*still awake and happy

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2016 12:57 AM (hlMPp)

263 51
One non-sieg-heiler out of a couple hundred. That's how I feel most days.

************

I count at least six more non-sieg-heilers in the same crowd them

Arrest them!!

Posted by: Zombie Reinhard Heydrich at May 05, 2016 12:57 AM (bIhmV)

264 Again, that is just speculation about Wallis Simpson, no one knows for sure and it's just one of those things, you know some celebrity really has some exotic condition or something.

Nowadays, CAIS would be detected early, likely in the womb with all the testing they do now. But in the old days, it wouldn't be detected until puberty. At birth, they appear to be normal girls, with a normal vulva.

The lack of a proper cervix could be detected but there's usually no reason to do that as infants and children. It will only become known at puberty. Well, the lack of puberty. And then investigating the cause of that would reveal it.

They have undescended testicles (there's nothing to descend into), no ovaries nor uterus. And nothing to make female hormones either, so estrogens must be given to complete female puberty. And the testicles removed as they will most likely become cancerous.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 05, 2016 12:57 AM (DW+jj)

265 Oh - it has to be blues?
Bonnie raitt? Susan Tedesci? No they couldn't hold up to Janis, but they're not wormfood pickled in heroine & vodka, either.

There are quite a few young ladies out now that nobody has heard of - that have real pipes.

Posted by: Chi at May 05, 2016 12:59 AM (/9QbJ)

266 Also Eva Cassidy. I'm thinking of sheer vocal talent, not necessarily the same style as Janis.

Can't think of anyone else in that league.

Posted by: rickl at May 05, 2016 12:50 AM (sdi6R)

++++

I never heard of her before. A quick check at YouTube makes me think she just does covers? She is a talented singer, but most of the stuff I tried was pretty slow.

If cover artists are allowed, I would also put up Linda Ronstadt as a hell of a talented vocalist. She's not doing much these days, but in her day she was awesome.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 05, 2016 01:00 AM (R+30W)

267 236 The answer is that nobody can match up with Janis Joplin. Not yet, prolly never.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 05, 2016 12:40 AM

**************

Dunno about that. someone said she had 1/10 the talent and pipes of Bessie Smith, one of Jpolin's acknowledged influences.

Posted by: Soon-to-be-Zombie Phil Spector at May 05, 2016 01:02 AM (bIhmV)

268 257 Adele? A hardcore blues singer? Well I guess I should give you Winehouse though. Can you name one that lived a full life? Bessie Smith?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 05, 2016 12:53 AM (rgXmo)

++++

Joplin was 27 when she died!

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 05, 2016 01:03 AM (R+30W)

269 Time for the old folk.


Remember,y'all,we are Americans--so the head is held HIGH--especially during these times.


Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 05, 2016 01:03 AM (P/8aq)

270 Night IG

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2016 01:04 AM (hlMPp)

271 CaliGirl's friend Lexi... RIP

Some folks accomplish more for fellowkind by age 12 than others can in half-a-dozen decades...

Posted by: mindful webworker - useless as ever at May 05, 2016 01:05 AM (vDbXI)

272 I never heard of her before. A quick check at YouTube makes me think she just does covers? She is a talented singer, but most of the stuff I tried was pretty slow.

If cover artists are allowed, I would also put up Linda Ronstadt as a hell of a talented vocalist. She's not doing much these days, but in her day she was awesome.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 05, 2016 01:00 AM (R+30W)


Eva Cassidy is no longer with us. Died tragically young, of cancer, IIRC.


Madeline Peyroux is worth a listen. Sounds a little like Billie Holliday in some numbers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 05, 2016 01:06 AM (wZhAq)

273 If you get a chance, watch the Janis documentary on pbs. Really took me back. Why do all the best die young?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 05, 2016 01:06 AM (rgXmo)

274 would be nice if Trumps wife rewrote da Mooch's lunch menu into something normal.

as if Moochelle and her big ass know anything about

I'd like to hear her answer to what is a macro nutrient

Posted by: jake at May 05, 2016 01:07 AM (zyNx5)

275 273 If you get a chance, watch the Janis documentary on pbs. Really took me back. Why do all the best die young?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 05, 2016 01:06 AM (rgXmo)



Because they're immature, reckless, and needlessly expose themselves to danger?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2016 01:08 AM (EzgxV)

276 266
I never heard of her before. A quick check at YouTube makes me think she just does covers? She is a talented singer, but most of the stuff I tried was pretty slow.

If cover artists are allowed, I would also put up Linda Ronstadt as a hell of a talented vocalist. She's not doing much these days, but in her day she was awesome.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 05, 2016 01:00 AM (R+30W)


Eva Cassidy was the greatest singer you never heard of. I saw a TV documentary about her several years ago and my jaw was on the floor. She was one of the true greats.

Here is her last public performance in 1996, about two months before she died of cancer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuhDMJoQMAU

Posted by: rickl at May 05, 2016 01:08 AM (sdi6R)

277 261 Jennifer Aniston's only role I found her attractive in was Office Space but only because of the writing, not her personality. Which she seems to have none of.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 05, 2016 12:56 AM (39g3+)

++++

I liked her in The Good Girl. It wasn't a big movie or anything, just a little drama. But, she impressed me as an actor. Just played a non-flashy regular kind of role.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 05, 2016 01:09 AM (R+30W)

278 Because they're immature, reckless, and needlessly expose themselves to danger?
Posted by: cthulhu
-------------

This is about us isn't it?

Posted by: Jimi Hendrix, John Belushi, Jim Morrison at May 05, 2016 01:13 AM (9mTYi)

279 There was always something I didn't like about Jennifer Aniston myself, and I never could put my finger on it. Just didn't like the cut of her jib somehow.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 05, 2016 01:14 AM (DW+jj)

280 Mama Cass was a friend of Janis, and they both died needlessly, it was a nocal v socal thing back then. California dreaming.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 05, 2016 01:19 AM (rgXmo)

281 Lucinda Williams is also a very talented singer songwriter. And she has, up to this point, managed the trick of staying alive.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 05, 2016 01:19 AM (R+30W)

282 irongrampa #190: My country is still here. Under the layer of filth the progressive left has deposited on it.

Needs cleaning...


Thought this was pretty good:
"America United"
Captain Clay Higgins (5:45)
https://youtu.be/fCo4xJynCZ8

h/t Bookworm http://bit.ly/1T2Ki5o
who calls it "a pure and perfect homage to the American dream and the American people."

Posted by: mindful webworker - American Thunker at May 05, 2016 01:20 AM (vDbXI)

283 It may be, or this might be more of something confirming an earlier impulse is constantly messing with her hair.

That always bothers me about a woman who is constantly reaching up and flipping or changing her hair all the time. When she talks, at least some of those clips of Friends I remember (don't think I ever saw a whole episode), it seemed like she was constantly reaching up and brushing her hair back.

That's just one of the little things that bother me. And I'm sure I do stuff that bother women, of course, and we all do things that bother some other people.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 05, 2016 01:20 AM (DW+jj)

284 >>>The answer is that nobody can match up with Janis Joplin.

True, it takes real talent to wail tone deaf and creaking like a bag lady on a 10 day bender.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 05, 2016 12:50 AM (39g3+)


LOL. I was never a Janis Joplin fan, either.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 05, 2016 01:26 AM (zc3Db)

285 Emmylou Harris isn't dead yet.

Posted by: garrett at May 05, 2016 01:27 AM (vhmHt)

286 rickl, was the launch scrubbed? Not finding anything here

Posted by: FCF at May 05, 2016 01:28 AM (kejii)

287 ...and I don't know if Astrud Gilberto is still alive. But her voice is lovely.

Posted by: garrett at May 05, 2016 01:28 AM (vhmHt)

288 I keep Allana Myles in rotate, but I might be the only one who doea

Posted by: Jean at May 05, 2016 01:28 AM (cXiMR)

289 I always though Jennifer Aniston was a good looking woman but her over exposure as the "it girl" of the 90s kind of killed it for me. Admittedly, compared to the over hyped "it girls" of today like Lena Dunham or Amy Schumer, Aniston is some kind of other-worldly being! LOL

Posted by: Commissar M at May 05, 2016 01:28 AM (jVf2J)

290 Black Velvet!

Posted by: garrett at May 05, 2016 01:29 AM (vhmHt)

291 284 >>>The answer is that nobody can match up with Janis Joplin.

True, it takes real talent to wail tone deaf and creaking like a bag lady on a 10 day bender.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 05, 2016 12:50 AM (39g3+)

LOL. I was never a Janis Joplin fan, either.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 05, 2016 01:26 AM (zc3Db)



Janis mastered the art of singing every syllable as if it had been wrung from her under torture. It's unusual and useful in certain circumstances, but is not a universal good. The woman who voiced GLaDOS is much more talented, overall.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2016 01:29 AM (EzgxV)

292 I liked Black Velvet, but I don't think I ever noticed anything else Myles did.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 05, 2016 01:30 AM (R+30W)

293 That chick from Quarterflash had an amazing voice. Ridiculous range.

Posted by: garrett at May 05, 2016 01:31 AM (vhmHt)

294 The woman who voiced GLaDOS is much more talented, overall.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2016 01:29 AM (EzgxV)


I never ran into GLaDOS. I used CP/M back then.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 05, 2016 01:32 AM (zc3Db)

295 Gee but it's great to be back home.
Home is where I want to beeeee, boys.



Kindltot #207: Goodnight. Have some Tubes.

That... was not what I was expecting.



Christopher Taylor #248: ...it takes real talent to wail tone deaf and creaking like a bag lady on a 10 day bender and make it work!

Upgraded for you.

Posted by: mindful webworker singing Rockin' Robin at May 05, 2016 01:32 AM (vDbXI)

296 Rindy Ross.

What an awful name.

Posted by: garrett at May 05, 2016 01:32 AM (vhmHt)

297 I bought a huge chunk of a giant LP collection this past weekend, and as soon as I ran out of cash the guy announces says - "All the Female Vocal stuff is in the garage.".

I am pretty bummed I didn't pick through that stuff, too.

Posted by: garrett at May 05, 2016 01:34 AM (vhmHt)

298 Thought this was pretty good:
"America United"
Captain Clay Higgins (5:45)
https://youtu.be/fCo4xJynCZ8
--------------

He may be considering running for Congress.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2016 01:35 AM (9mTYi)

299 294 The woman who voiced GLaDOS is much more talented, overall.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2016 01:29 AM (EzgxV)

I never ran into GLaDOS. I used CP/M back then.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 05, 2016 01:32 AM (zc3Db)



You should probably be grateful.







On a more serious note -- she's an actual opera singer who slummed it into a video game and used her operatic talents to contribute within the game. Extremely versatile.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2016 01:36 AM (EzgxV)

300 Believe it or not, but my Uncle Larry was in a commune with The Jefferson Airplane. They were in his wedding, and Grace Slick sang for the event. I was only 8 or so, but that was something. Uncle Larry kept on and became an artist. And spent the rest of his life sticking it to the man.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 05, 2016 01:36 AM (rgXmo)

301 Grace Slick owes a huge debt to society. The bill continues to increase every time a radio station plays We Built This City.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 05, 2016 01:38 AM (R+30W)

302 Have a great trip Maet. I really enjoy your ONTs -- always good stuff. Thanks. Enjoy.

Posted by: gracepc at May 05, 2016 01:39 AM (OU4q6)

303 286 rickl, was the launch scrubbed? Not finding anything here
Posted by: FCF at May 05, 2016 01:28 AM (kejii)


It was postponed 24 hours due to the weather. It's now scheduled for 1:21 am EDT Friday morning.

Posted by: rickl at May 05, 2016 01:39 AM (sdi6R)

304 Remember,y'all,we are Americans--so the head is held HIGH--especially during these times.

And then we shoot our enemies on Christmas, because fuck those guys, that's why.

Or at least we used to.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 05, 2016 01:39 AM (KRwzj)

305 On a more serious note -- she's an actual opera singer who slummed it into a video game and used her operatic talents to contribute within the game. Extremely versatile.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2016 01:36 AM (EzgxV)


There are many very talented singers but trained voices are always better. I remember when there was a minor fad of opera singers showing up on pop collaborations (I think it came from Andreas whateverhisnameis - the blind tenor - had such success with his album). When the opera singer started after the famous pop idol it was like night and day - no comparison in the voices.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 05, 2016 01:40 AM (zc3Db)

306 Grace Slick owes a huge debt to society. The bill continues to increase every time a radio station plays We Built This City.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 05, 2016 01:38 AM (R+30W)


Yeah ... that song has my vote for the crappiest and most annoying in history.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 05, 2016 01:41 AM (zc3Db)

307 304 Remember,y'all,we are Americans--so the head is held HIGH--especially during these times.

And then we shoot our enemies on Christmas, because fuck those guys, that's why.

Or at least we used to.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 05, 2016 01:39 AM (KRwzj)



Mind you, that was "killed our enemies in their beds, drunk and asleep, on Christmas".....


....and we nuked some folks that needed nukin'.....

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2016 01:42 AM (EzgxV)

308 I'm also partial to Tift Merritt.

The EP she did with the Two Dollar Pistols is good stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc6WbweR9gc

Posted by: garrett at May 05, 2016 01:43 AM (vhmHt)

309 Geeze - Grace is going to be 77 this year.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2016 01:44 AM (9mTYi)

310 Lookee there, it's Cinco de Mayo on the East Coast.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2016 01:44 AM (EzgxV)

311 >> that song has my vote for the crappiest and most annoying in history.


Phil Collins is on Line 2 for you.

Posted by: garrett at May 05, 2016 01:44 AM (vhmHt)

312 Posted by: jake at May 05, 2016 01:07 AM (zyNx5)

It would be nice for any First Lady to not be involved at all in school lunch menus.

Posted by: gracepc at May 05, 2016 01:44 AM (OU4q6)

313 I'm sure there have been both crappier and more annoying songs. Even some who managed to do both at the same time. But, at least people have the good sense not to play them. I don't know what it is with that song that it still, to this day!, gets airplay. I can't recall anyone ever saying anything good about it, yet it continues.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 05, 2016 01:44 AM (R+30W)

314 Ya, I don't think massive drug consumption should hinder a rock star. Unless it kills you.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 05, 2016 01:45 AM (rgXmo)

315 Posted by: CaliGirl at May 04, 2016 11:47 PM

Prayers up for her family in their time of loss. She sounds like an amazing girl.

Posted by: Farmer at May 05, 2016 01:45 AM (PzqA/)

316 Anon Y. Mous #301: Grace Slick owes a huge debt to society. The bill continues to increase every time a radio station plays We Built This City.

You mean, a huge debt to Great Society.

Little-known true fack: The original lyric was "We built this city on rigmarole."

Posted by: mindful webworker the rock historian at May 05, 2016 01:45 AM (vDbXI)

317 Here is the TV documentary on Eva Cassidy I mentioned earlier:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXU219b3Zdw

She just had a small local following, and only became famous years after she died. What a voice. Like I said, she was truly one of the greats of any era.

Posted by: rickl at May 05, 2016 01:46 AM (sdi6R)

318 Yeah ... that song has my vote for the crappiest and most annoying in history.

Worse than "Hey There Delilah"?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 05, 2016 01:46 AM (T/cxb)

319 Egad! I'm caught up at last on comments. Do I pour myself another beverage or do the better thing and log off and go to bed?

*ponders*

Posted by: mindful webworker, ponderously at May 05, 2016 01:48 AM (vDbXI)

320 307 304 Remember,y'all,we are Americans--so the head is held HIGH--especially during these times.

And then we shoot our enemies on Christmas, because fuck those guys, that's why.

Or at least we used to.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 05, 2016 01:39 AM (KRwzj)



Mind you, that was "killed our enemies in their beds, drunk and asleep, on Christmas".....


....and we nuked some folks that needed nukin'.....
Posted by: cthulhu

... and there were so few Japanese POWs because of bushido or something

Posted by: Jean at May 05, 2016 01:48 AM (cXiMR)

321 Grace, then
http://tinyurl.com/gobv8jg

now
http://tinyurl.com/jajwkcd

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2016 01:49 AM (9mTYi)

322 *suddenly quits pondering*

I know! I'll check out kbdabear's links...

Posted by: mindful webworker, decisively at May 05, 2016 01:49 AM (vDbXI)

323 318 Yeah ... that song has my vote for the crappiest and most annoying in history.

Worse than "Hey There Delilah"?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 05, 2016 01:46 AM (T/cxb)



John Lennon: "Imagine" -- once you realize that it's describing Hell.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2016 01:49 AM (EzgxV)

324 Phil Collins is on Line 2 for you.

Posted by: garrett at May 05, 2016 01:44 AM (vhmHt)


I don't recall any Phil Collins songs that made me want to burn my radio.

Worse than "Hey There Delilah"?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 05, 2016 01:46 AM (T/cxb)


I don't think I ever heard of that one. The only "Delilah" song I know is that Tom Jones (?) one, which isn't bad.

But to put it all in perspective, I'd rather be sentenced to hearing "Feelings" played over and over until my death rather than "We Built This City" even once more.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 05, 2016 01:50 AM (zc3Db)

325 *dancing around naked on the lawn because I just saw a message that I missed a day ago
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 04, 2016 11:52 PM

I'm calling BS. You're dancing around naked on the lawn 'cause you took your pants off for the ONT and then decided to go outside when you got deranged by the posts!

Posted by: Farmer at May 05, 2016 01:50 AM (PzqA/)

326 ... and there were so few Japanese POWs because of bushido or something

Posted by: Jean at May 05, 2016 01:48 AM (cXiMR)

++++

Well, that plus they committed some pretty horrible atrocities on a regular basis. The Marines were not much inclined to be taking prisoners.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 05, 2016 01:51 AM (R+30W)

327 326 ... and there were so few Japanese POWs because of bushido or something

Posted by: Jean at May 05, 2016 01:48 AM (cXiMR)

++++

Well, that plus they committed some pretty horrible atrocities on a regular basis. The Marines were not much inclined to be taking prisoners.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 05, 2016 01:51 AM (R+30W)




You have to feed prisoners -- once you bury casualties, you're done.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2016 01:52 AM (EzgxV)

328 G'night everyone. Have to pretend to work tomorrow.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 05, 2016 01:54 AM (T/cxb)

329 Back from checking out kbdabear's links.

Meh. I don't think one of them was of Jennifer Aniston.

Posted by: mindful webworker, decisively at May 05, 2016 01:55 AM (vDbXI)

330 On a more serious note -- she's an actual opera singer who slummed it into a video game and used her operatic talents to contribute within the game. Extremely versatile.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2016 01:36 AM (EzgxV)

Video games aren't always slumming it anymore. They got JK Simmons for Portal 2 and he was hilarious.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 05, 2016 01:58 AM (VdICR)

331 Groups of them would try to surrender - but a few would have grenades hidden to use a close range. Marines got tired of that shit - so they'd flamethrower the whole group. To cook off the grenades.

Posted by: Jean at May 05, 2016 01:58 AM (cXiMR)

332 Well, that plus they committed some pretty horrible atrocities on a regular basis. The Marines were not much inclined to be taking prisoners.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous
--------------

Heh. A friend of mine, now passed away, worked behind enemy lines on Luzon. Well, actually there were no lines, because this was prior to the invasion. At any rate, his comment was, "We did not take prisoners, there was nothing that we could do with them".

Hell of a guy:

"When we returned to the American sector with the 6th Army Special Intelligence I had a new mission- General Romulo's wife and son were left on the island behind enemy lines.
The guerillas had built an airstrip where a cub plane could land. We set up signals and were able to evacuate the son, wife, and brother. There was no room for me- I had to walk out. It took six or seven days and I traveled at night. "

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2016 01:58 AM (9mTYi)

333 So, I flip the channel and what's on? Sunset Blvd. Nora Desmond is garblfagll

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 05, 2016 01:59 AM (rgXmo)

334 Posted by: mindful webworker, decisively at May 05, 2016 01:55 AM (vDbXI)

Wow! You almost managed to post an image. How'd you manage that?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 05, 2016 01:59 AM (zc3Db)

335 Throughout the Pacific War, Japanese soldiers often feigned injury or surrender in order to lure the approaching American forces before attacking them. One of the most famous examples of this was the "Goettge Patrol" during the early days of the Guadalcanal Campaign in August 1942. After the patrol saw a white flag displayed on the west bank of Matanikau River, Marine Corps Lieutenant Colonel Frank Goettge assembled 25 men, primarily consisting of intelligence personnel, to search the area. Unknown to the patrol, the white flag was actually a Japanese flag with the Hinomaru disc insignia obscured. A Japanese prisoner earlier tricked the Marines by telling them that there were a number of Japanese west of the Matanikau River who wanted to surrender, knowing they would be ambushed. The Goettge Patrol landed by boat west of the Lunga Point perimeter, between Point Cruz and the Matanikau River, on a reconnaissance mission to contact a group of Japanese troops that American forces believed might be willing to surrender. Soon after the patrol landed, a group of Japanese naval troops ambushed and almost completely wiped out the patrol. Goettge was among the dead. Only three Americans made it back to American lines in the Lunga Point perimeter alive. News of the killing and treachery by the Japanese outraged the American Marines:

This was the first mass killing of the Marines on Guadalcanal. We were shocked. Shocked ... because headquarters had believed anything a Jap had to say ... The loss of this patrol and the particularly cruel way in which they had met death, hardened our hearts toward the Japanese. The idea of taking prisoners was swept from our minds. It was too dangerous.


http://tinyurl.com/j7uqpms

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 05, 2016 02:00 AM (R+30W)

336 Never mind, mww ... it was just a smilee that didn't show for a second in my page.

Carry on ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 05, 2016 02:00 AM (zc3Db)

337 That wet slapping sound you just heard was me hitting the wall for the night.

Sayonara, Morons.



God be merciful unto us, and bless us; and cause his face to shine upon us; Selah. That thy way may be known upon earth, thy saving health among all nations.

Posted by: mindful webworker - brushing off brick dust at May 05, 2016 02:01 AM (vDbXI)

338 Apropos of nothing, the fiancee and I took an intensive in-depth tour of the US Capitol building, and were amazed to find that there was a wing where Copybook Headings were inscribed over every door. Unfiltered stuff right out of Kipling -- like "If you don't work you die." and "Stick to the Devil you know."



I imagine that the inscriptions silently scream at the idiocy regularly taking place beyond their portals......

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2016 02:01 AM (EzgxV)

339 I imagine that the inscriptions silently scream at the idiocy regularly taking place beyond their portals......
Posted by: cthulhu
------------

If Obama had the authority, he would have them ripped down and sent back to England.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2016 02:03 AM (9mTYi)

340 332 Well, that plus they committed some pretty horrible atrocities on a regular basis. The Marines were not much inclined to be taking prisoners.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous
--------------

Heh. A friend of mine, now passed away, worked behind enemy lines on Luzon. Well, actually there were no lines, because this was prior to the invasion. At any rate, his comment was, "We did not take prisoners, there was nothing that we could do with them".

Hell of a guy:

"When we returned to the American sector with the 6th Army Special Intelligence I had a new mission- General Romulo's wife and son were left on the island behind enemy lines.
The guerillas had built an airstrip where a cub plane could land. We set up signals and were able to evacuate the son, wife, and brother. There was no room for me- I had to walk out. It took six or seven days and I traveled at night. "

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2016 01:58 AM (9mTYi)



To think -- I missed the chance to buy this guy a beer.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2016 02:04 AM (EzgxV)

341 I heard just a hint of a Joplin-esque growl-whine in the song that Alisan Porter sang on the latest "The Voice"...think it was last night, the Top 10 or something like that. 10 contestants left. She is surprisingly good. Mostly country, but could probably sing anything.

Posted by: scoville at May 05, 2016 02:06 AM (0adl+)

342 Well, I am out for the night. Have a safe, enjoyable, and productive trip to Japan, Maet. And condolences to Caligirl for the loss of her little friend.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 05, 2016 02:10 AM (wZhAq)

343 Think the first contact between US and Japanese ground forces - aside from the Philippines or Wake, where we were on the defensive, so treachery in surrender was not an issue - was the Tenaru River battle on Guadalcanal. The one where the Ichiki Detachment ("elite" for Japan) was annihilated by stupidly attacking (and attacking) a well-prepared defensive line.


Gen. Vandegrift noted in the aftermath the treacherous behavior of some Japanese soldiers when Marines moved to take them prisoner. That he had never seen or heard of such behavior.


Yet histories have been written that - absurdly - attempt to argue that the ferocity of Marines in the Pacific was due to ..... wait for it ..... racism!

Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2016 02:10 AM (QDnY+)

344 thanks rickl

Posted by: FCF at May 05, 2016 02:13 AM (kejii)

345 343 Think the first contact between US and Japanese ground forces - aside from the Philippines or Wake, where we were on the defensive, so treachery in surrender was not an issue - was the Tenaru River battle on Guadalcanal. The one where the Ichiki Detachment ("elite" for Japan) was annihilated by stupidly attacking (and attacking) a well-prepared defensive line.


Gen. Vandegrift noted in the aftermath the treacherous behavior of some Japanese soldiers when Marines moved to take them prisoner. That he had never seen or heard of such behavior.


Yet histories have been written that - absurdly - attempt to argue that the ferocity of Marines in the Pacific was due to ..... wait for it ..... racism!

Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2016 02:10 AM (QDnY+)




And this is a serious reason why RoE should be heavily influenced by the services and not the political branches. If white-flag surrendering troops are regularly doing suicide bombings, the last thing anyone needs is some Washington bureaucrat mandating the type of cookies to be given to surrendering troops.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2016 02:15 AM (EzgxV)

346 On the other hand, the Japanese would take the American Marines prisoners when given the opportunity. And then they would torture them for info and kill them. Of course, when their mutilated corpses were found, this further served to harden the attitudes of the Marines towards the Japanese.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 05, 2016 02:16 AM (R+30W)

347 Anon. Y. Mous with the correction (sorta) to my comment - the Goettge patrol was the first ground contact of note, the Tenaru battle came a week later or so. But as noted, the earlier incident involved some confusion - the treacherous behavior following the Tenaru battle (false surrender, grenades, etc.) was the first pure case of this behavior that contributed to so few Japanese POWs being taken in the next 3 years.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2016 02:18 AM (QDnY+)

348 VI imagine that the inscriptions silently scream at the idiocy regularly taking place beyond their portals......
Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2016 02:01 AM (EzgxV)

I freaking hope so! And before I get questioned I am a lurker for over 8 years, I think I have had the same hash so pleade do not call me a drive by or a troll I will say that I have been questioned as far as my taste in literature on the book thread

Posted by: FCF at May 05, 2016 02:21 AM (kejii)

349 it was racism ... they were the racists.

Posted by: Jean at May 05, 2016 02:21 AM (cXiMR)

350 "The Rectification of Names" refers to a stage in a Revolution where previous lies are swept away and truths are told.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2016 02:21 AM (EzgxV)

351 "you are now under a sentence of death. You know damned well that nobody has ever taught a horse to sing."
- He's just lucky he didn't promise to teach Yoko to sing.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 05, 2016 12:22 AM

Now that made me chortle AW. TY

Posted by: Farmer at May 05, 2016 02:22 AM (PzqA/)

352 Yep. With the first incident, those that were so inclined could be skeptical of what they were hearing. Fog of war and all that. But, when it gets repeated, not much room for doubt.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 05, 2016 02:22 AM (R+30W)

353 cthulu - He was also one of these 12:

Submarine: USS Nautilus (SS-16
Commanding Officer: Captain George A. Sharp.
Date and Location of Sailing: Woendi, 10 October 1944.
Mission: To discharge a party of twelve (12) men on the east coast of Luzon (15-40.6N 121-36.5E and 15-01.5N 121-32.5E).
-------------
They spent their time blowing up Jap shit.

His handle was 'Snake'.

Citadel graduate.

He was one of these guys:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alamo_Scouts



Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2016 02:24 AM (9mTYi)

354 Yes Jean the racism that was systemic (heh), that was actually an integral part of the ideology and world-view that constituted the rationale for the war, was on the Japanese side.


Racism was obviously an issue in the US (though even *then*, in comparison to all of human history and most of the planet at the time, it was mild), and the more cold-blooded elements of racism played a part in US under-estimates of Japanese capabilities pre-Pearl Harbor, but there is obvious, concrete evidence that the ferocity of much of the ground war in the Pacific from the US side evolved directly from Japanese behavior, not "racism".


But this common sense and logic are exotic and incomprehensible in a society where "disparate impact" means a law is unfair because those who break it are ..... disproportionately of one flavor or another.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2016 02:26 AM (QDnY+)

355 Interesting Janis Joplin trivia - I never realized until recently that 'Piece of My Heart" was a cover. Originally done by Erma Franklin, Aretha's sister. Much more subtle and bluesy - great recording. Check youtube

Posted by: Vertov at May 05, 2016 02:30 AM (RTOcO)

356 Yes Jean the racism that was systemic (heh), that was actually an integral part of the ideology and world-view that constituted the rationale for the war, was on the Japanese side.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2016 02:26 AM (QDnY+)


And the Japanese weren't wrong in this, either. Outside of America kicking their asses, the Japanese had beaten the living shit out of the rest of the Orientals (and then some).

There's nothing wrong with a society or group or family or whatever thinking they are superior. It's only a problem when they're really not. But every group has the right to think that it's the best and the modern lefty (and somewhat righty, now, too) idea that there's anything wrong with that is insane.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 05, 2016 02:31 AM (zc3Db)

357

But this common sense and logic are exotic and incomprehensible in a society where "disparate impact" means a law is unfair because those who break it are ..... disproportionately of one flavor or another


Which is why you settle the issue with napalm

Posted by: Jean at May 05, 2016 02:31 AM (cXiMR)

358 I really need a subscription to 'Australian Geographer' right now...

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00049182.2012.731307

Posted by: JEM at May 05, 2016 02:33 AM (o+SC1)

359 Janis Joplin had a horrible voice.

Posted by: eleven at May 05, 2016 02:34 AM (qUNWi)

360 I meant to say the racism - really more than that, a general cultural chauvinism - was an integral part of the twisted ideology the militarists and ultra-nationalists had imposed on Japan. It really wasn't a grass-roots thing, in fact the proponents basically bullied and killed their way to dominance.


And though obviously the total record from 1937 onward is debated, in the early stages a young Hirohito was distrusted by the militarists, as he had shown dangerously western and reasonable attitudes.


But it's funny, in a dark way, to see the absurd gymnastics and self-beclowning lengths to which the moral equivalence fanatics will go to soften the focus. The first 80 or so pages of the book "Flyboys" (by the author of Flags of Our Fathers, the son of the last flag-raiser to pass away) stands out as a pretty breath-taking example.


Japan wanted oil and status, but there was a comprehensive ideology behind their expansion was as racist and looney tunes as anything the guy with the little moustache dreamed up over in Europe at the time. Japanese behavior somewhat flowed directly from this, so ignoring it is a pretty audacious attempt at distortion, even for the self-hating freaks of distortion.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2016 02:35 AM (QDnY+)

361 Ooops sorry didn't mean to kill the the thread.

I'm out. Carry on.

Posted by: eleven at May 05, 2016 02:38 AM (qUNWi)

362 Janis mastered the art of singing every syllable as if it had been wrung from her under torture. It's unusual and useful in certain circumstances, but is not a universal good. The woman who voiced GLaDOS is much more talented, overall.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2016 01:29 AM

*showing my ingnorance* What is GLaDOS?

Posted by: Farmer at May 05, 2016 02:40 AM (PzqA/)

363 Given their racism, how did Sorge handle them like bitches ...

Posted by: Jean at May 05, 2016 02:40 AM (cXiMR)

364 Well actually TPOP, not really, Japan was doing the best of any Asian society completely independent of the nutcase mystical/supremacist/racist crap that was cobbled together by the ultra-nationalists (and it really was goofball stuff that is an outlier in modern Japanese history). Stay out of China and keep developing Japan and they'd have continued to do fine. Most Japanese, all civilian politicians, and half the Navy wanted to do just that.


But my point was really different - that the brutality in the Pacific was very much provoked by one side - at least when we're talking about treatment of combatants and POWs - and had to do with *their* racism, not *ours*.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2016 02:45 AM (QDnY+)

365 Yeah ... that song has my vote for the crappiest and most annoying in history.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 05, 2016 01:41 AM

My vote for the most annoying is that screeching "I Will Always Love Youuuuuuuuuuuu" by W Houston. Obnoxious.

Yet I read here the other day that made Dolly Paton the most money of her career, that version.

Go figure, I'm not much for being in fashion.

Posted by: Farmer at May 05, 2016 02:47 AM (PzqA/)

366 And Jean, I was referring of course to our own unrecognizable society with the stuff about "disparate impact". So settling things with napalm is, tragically, not on the menu (yet).


But with that ..... off to continue "Conquering Tide" about the Pacific War in 1942-44. Finished with the "night of the battleships" at Guadalcanal last night (Oct. 15, 1942). Which reminds me: have to rattle the cage of an older friend who *volunteered* to go join a Marine squadron at The Canal when they called for replacements after the devastation of the battleship attack. We haven't seen him in a while and I'm considering every meeting a treasure, given the march of time.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2016 02:50 AM (QDnY+)

367 But my point was really different - that the brutality in the Pacific was very much provoked by one side

Absolutely. The Japanese almost demanded such treatment ... and they certainly earned it.

- at least when we're talking about treatment of combatants and POWs - and had to do with *their* racism, not *ours*.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2016 02:45 AM (QDnY+)


But it wasn't anything about Japanese "racism" that did this. It was more about Japanese culture and their own treatment of captures/prisoners, but that had little to do with any "racism" since the Japs were just as brutal their own when things went that way. Individual life was very cheap in Japanese culture.

It is only the uncompromising and merciless way we fought the japanese that allowed to finally surrender. If we had fought them with one hand tied behind our backs (as we have fought SINCE WWII) then the Japs would never have been able to surrender while saving face. They would have had to fight to very last child. Our firebombing and nuking Japanese cities was the only way that the Japs were even able to save themselves. ANything less than that and the Japs would have felt compelled to fight on and on and on.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 05, 2016 02:53 AM (zc3Db)

368 Geeze - Grace is going to be 77 this year.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2016 01:44 AM

And I might add...Geeze Grace is still alive?

Posted by: Farmer at May 05, 2016 02:53 AM (PzqA/)

369 I left a few words out of my post above - here and there - just to make it a little challenging and exciting.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 05, 2016 02:59 AM (zc3Db)

370 Ya, Janis did covers, as do many stars. The songwriters are the real stars, but nobody knows it. Gablfargll wrote many songs, but they don't sing it. Columbia records would not exist without it.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 05, 2016 03:02 AM (rgXmo)

371 No one won PB and it rolled over 67 million bucks. So, now it is at $415 mil which is a lot of moola.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 05, 2016 03:06 AM (iQIUe)

372 It would be nice for any First Lady to not be involved at all in school lunch menus.
Posted by: gracepc at May 05, 2016 01:44 AM

BINGO! How the ELF did Mooches' ideas get into govt policy?

EO, I'm sure. I'd like to see a comparison if Nancy Reagan's Just Say No was done w/out congressional approval.

W/ the election of Obama, the first historic BlackAfrican-American we can change all kids lunches.

Do the kids get Waygu beef or lobster like she seems to love?

Posted by: Farmer at May 05, 2016 03:07 AM (PzqA/)

373 POP at 367
Very true.
The Japanese made up in cruelty what they lacked in numbers and resources.

Captured USA pilots were crucified and had pieces of their buttocks removed, cooked, and eaten while the pilots watched.

That is a very special kind of cruelty.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2016 03:09 AM (8QGte)

374 I've always liked the idea of random strangers sneaking up on Cass Sunstein, shouting "Nudge!", slugging him, and running off before he can react.

Perhaps after the tenth or time it was start to sink in.

Posted by: Epobirs at May 05, 2016 03:14 AM (IdCqF)

375 So did you see that some 2ND rate rock star has a new book out that confirms the sand shark episode that we all know to be true actually happened? Led Zeppelin baby.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 05, 2016 03:16 AM (rgXmo)

376 John Lennon: "Imagine" -- once you realize that it's describing Hell.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2016 01:49 AM

Indeed. Now J and I loved the Beatles, they were truly revolutionary in music, despite what young twits tell me.

But that load of sheet tells you more about what Lennon became than anything else.

Posted by: Farmer at May 05, 2016 03:16 AM (PzqA/)

377 Etta James

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=copLTgjtcsg

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 05, 2016 03:20 AM (WhYLb)

378 Koko Taylor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBsrx40fiX0

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 05, 2016 03:22 AM (WhYLb)

379 I'm a student of WWII. Both theaters. It's friggin' amazing...and by amazing, I mean totally disheartening...how little most people, Boomers, Gen X, or Millennials, actually know about the war.

It's pretty much: Pearl Harbor, Hitler, Hiroshima. Hitler is anyone we don't agree with, the Japanese are these docile anime creators, why did we nuke them anyway? The Holocaust? Something may have happened there, aren't those Jews so melodramatic? Oh. and that Tom Hanks movie.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at May 05, 2016 03:29 AM (3KE2m)

380 The Latest: California raises legal age to buy tobacco to 21

http://www.cjad.com/WorldCP/Article.aspx?id=511483

Posted by: The Tobacky Hat at May 05, 2016 03:29 AM (vBeA5)

381 G'night all. I've finally caught up and realized most are talking about Japs in WW II while I'm still on about music of my youth. Typically behind old dude.

Be well Morons. Preserve.

Posted by: Farmer at May 05, 2016 03:30 AM (PzqA/)

382 John Lennon: "Imagine" -- once you realize that it's describing Hell.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2016 01:49 AM

Posted by: Farmer at May 05, 2016 03:16 AM (PzqA/)


Oh come on! We all know that Hell is other People!

Posted by: John Paul Sarte' at May 05, 2016 03:31 AM (AoK0a)

383 Epobirs at May 05, 2016 03:14 AM (IdCqF)

Nudging him into oncoming traffic works for me ...

Posted by: Adriane the What Consenting Adults Nudge is Fine with Me as long as I Get Left Alone to Nudge Whom I at May 05, 2016 03:34 AM (AoK0a)

384 Everybody knows Bob Dylan sings all you need to here.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 05, 2016 03:35 AM (rgXmo)

385 "Imagine" is a song about having no principles whatsoever.
May as well throw yourself in a lake.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2016 03:38 AM (8QGte)

386 and here's a dude that can sing...

Charles Bradley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s9VSoqF6KA

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 05, 2016 03:38 AM (WhYLb)

387 in the news next week: "#Failifornia faces a revenue dip as sales of cigarettes drop, reducing the amount of taxes the state collects from them. Officials are mystified..."

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 05, 2016 03:41 AM (WhYLb)

388 There is too much going on this ONT but I have time so I'll try.
With leftists not only will NC have to have Transgender bathroom rihts, every state will have them. No its ands or buts.

Wonder what Bill Clinton is going to do for school lunches.

Jennifer Aniston is a very good looking but best?

Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2016 03:46 AM (4ETUc)

389 for any of you morons who want to peruse the richest female pr0n stars...

kinda like Tinder for male gold diggers.

http://tinyurl.com/zk3w8ok


you're welcome

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 05, 2016 03:47 AM (WhYLb)

390 Night all.

Here is "Time Machine" by Royal Thunder:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yna0NRqNlA

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 05, 2016 03:50 AM (vBeA5)

391 Oh come on! We all know that Hell is other People!

Posted by: John Paul Sarte' at May 05, 2016 03:31 AM (AoK0a)


Of course. What do you think put the "social" in socialism.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 05, 2016 03:55 AM (J+mig)

392 Of course. What do you think put the "social" in socialism.

Did they put the ram in the ramadamadingdong too?

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic ... at May 05, 2016 04:04 AM (AoK0a)

393 Indeed. Now J and I loved the Beatles, they were truly revolutionary in music, despite what young twits tell me.

Posted by: Farmer
-----------------
I ain't exactly young, so call me an old twit.

The Beatles is the most overrated band in the history of music. And yes, I include Ringo playing a caveman in that statement.

Posted by: Chi at May 05, 2016 04:15 AM (/9QbJ)

394 Posted by: Farmer at May 05, 2016 03:30 AM (PzqA/)

It was music rich tonight. Enjoyed it. Thanks.

Posted by: gracepc at May 05, 2016 04:16 AM (OU4q6)

395 Morgan initially entered the porn industry as a means to pay off her
bail and plea bargain after being arrested in 2000 for transporting over
100 pounds of marijuana from Mexico into the United States.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 05, 2016 04:21 AM (WhYLb)

396 Posted by: Tinfoilbaby @ 370

As I'm sure you know, practically every rock song we grew up with is a cover. Usually, a mediocre version of a great blues song.

Posted by: Chi at May 05, 2016 04:23 AM (/9QbJ)

397 393 The Beatles is the most overrated band in the history of music. And yes, I include Ringo playing a caveman in that statement.
Posted by: Chi at May 05, 2016 04:15 AM (/9QbJ)
---------
Truth!

Posted by: sinalco at May 05, 2016 04:23 AM (yODqO)

398 They have Jenna Jameson at the top of the list, which makes me wonder. Also, they started out with some with net worths of just 400K and below, and I thought, I'm supposed to be impressed?

The last I head, Jenna was flat broke. She'd developed an oxycontin habit and other things. I remember reading back over 10 years ago what a smart and savvy business person she was and how rich she was.

Well, that didn't last and she stupidly threw it away and allowed others to milk her.

So because of that, I sort of question their figures. Well, that's what I've read about Jenna Jameson -- it could be wrong, but I don't know.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 05, 2016 04:35 AM (DW+jj)

399 Good Morning Everyone. That's all I got.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois I want mah Weasel! at May 05, 2016 04:40 AM (WVsWD)

400 #398: couldn't tell you... my taste in pr0n stars runs to Kay Parker, Honey Wilder, etc...

i have no idea who most of the women listed are.


Posted by: redc1c4 at May 05, 2016 04:41 AM (WhYLb)

401 Did you send them Flowers?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois I want mah Weasel! at May 05, 2016 04:43 AM (WVsWD)

402 That was an honest question. Someone here did do that. I thought it was nice. Strange but nice.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois I want mah Weasel! at May 05, 2016 04:47 AM (WVsWD)

403 send who flowers?

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 05, 2016 04:48 AM (WhYLb)

404 "*showing my ingnorance* What is GLaDOS?
Posted by: Farmer at May 05, 2016 02:40 AM (PzqA/)"

Computer game character. Murerous, insane, and snarky AI who f***ing loves science.

And by science, that means she tries to kill you.

Posted by: HopefulMonster at May 05, 2016 04:57 AM (1D4Ef)

405 If I had to pick a favorite, it would be.. Well, I don't know anything about this kind of stuff, of course, as I'm a little chaste choir boy who has no carnal knowledge at all, and anyone who does is goin' to Hell and all that. But I do have a friend who is very fallen and I try to minister to him.

His favorite would be India Summer if he had to pick one. And that's not just about looks, it's the whole package, personality and, uh, skills. She has an air of a woman who is very sophisticated and educated, perhaps of breeding and class, but who is a thoroughly debauched, wanton, and dirty, dirty girl.

That is what drives me crazy. A high class woman who is actually dirtier and more perverted than I am.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 05, 2016 04:57 AM (DW+jj)

406 400 #398: couldn't tell you... my taste in pr0n stars runs to Kay Parker, Honey Wilder, etc...


I forget who it was but someone here sent his favorite Porn Actress Flowers.

That's why I asked.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois I want mah Weasel! at May 05, 2016 05:02 AM (WVsWD)

407 If you are still here Maet, will anyone be taking over the ONT while you are gone?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:09 AM (vvmPQ)

408 Vic,

I think Mis Hum is a good possibility. He did the last time Maet took some time off.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois I want mah Weasel! at May 05, 2016 05:12 AM (WVsWD)

409 not sure where one would send them flowers, but, last time i looked, you could pay Kay for in person mentoring services...

sadly, that's likely just for new age mumbo jumbo, and not re-creating her greatest scenes...

but one can always hope, right?


Posted by: redc1c4 at May 05, 2016 05:12 AM (WhYLb)

410 forgot the fing link...

http://kaytaylorparker.com/services/

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 05, 2016 05:13 AM (WhYLb)

411 sadly, that's likely just for new age mumbo jumbo, and not re-creating her greatest scenes...

but one can always hope, right?


Once you are verified trust worthy I think there might be hope for your hope.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois I want mah Weasel! at May 05, 2016 05:16 AM (WVsWD)

412 He is already doing the early dump around 8 am. He may not want to take on the ONT as well.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:22 AM (vvmPQ)

413 And as I said yesterday, here comes the news links early today since I have a dental session at 7 am and I have to go SSnS and get ready soon.


{que chimes} Good Morning Morons and Moronettes its time for VNN


Today is Thursday, May 05, 2016; Cinco De Mayo which seems to be only celebrated in the United States. On this day in 1925 a warrant was served on John T. Scopes for teaching evolution in violation of the Butler Act. This started the famous Scopes trial in TN portrayed by the movie Inherent the Wind. The Smithsonian magazine had a very interesting article about this event. It turns out that everything we have heard about this trial and that abomination of a movie was BS.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:28 AM (vvmPQ)

414 Liberal Democrats (BIRM) are making a big deal out of Bush saying he will not comment on or participate in this election. Actually, this is common for former Presidents except for Jimmy peanut who has to comment on everything.


http://tinyurl.com/hc3ssar

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:28 AM (vvmPQ)

415 And Fox is doing its normal thing; generating artificial hype about that fabulous Clinton ground machine. No mention of the fact that she is the worst political campaigner I have seen in my lifetime even with the MFM covering for all of her gaffes.


http://tinyurl.com/jk78q76

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:28 AM (vvmPQ)

416 The NFL has issued a warning to players that says tainted meat from Mexico can cause you to show positive in their steroid tests. I should think that they would come up with a new test that was more accurate or simply quit giving them. But who gives a big sh*t about the NFL anyway.


http://tinyurl.com/jb32wag

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:29 AM (vvmPQ)

417 A Chinese court has ruled against Apple in its lawsuit against a Chinese company who was using the I-phone brand name. Will Obama invoke all these BS trade treaties he has been pushing for? Of course not. It does not involve his black homies and the Chinese, contrary to the MFM, are still communist and under a dictatorship which he likes.


http://tinyurl.com/zaj6chb

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:29 AM (vvmPQ)

418 Illegal migrants are hitting the border now at double the numbers of even the record breaking year last year. They are trying to get in under the illegal fire sale policies of Obama before he is replaced by Trump who supposedly will close the border.


http://tinyurl.com/zvp4nuq

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:29 AM (vvmPQ)

419 RIP former Republican Senator Bob Bennett at 92.


http://tinyurl.com/jqcczoe

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:29 AM (vvmPQ)

420 Idiot man has been arrested by the feds in MI for spraying rat poison on unpackaged food in a grocery store. A press release say there is no danger if you have eaten any of this crap. Why do I not believe that? I hope they convict this asshole (if he is guilty) and they lock his ass up and throw away the key.


http://tinyurl.com/hmo56lu

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:30 AM (vvmPQ)

421 Obama's pen and phone have created a new rule that will allow those crony corruption wind mills to massively increase the number of bald eagles and golden eagles they can kill for up to 30 years. Something no other industry could do without going to jail. All for the BS non-existent global warming. Just about every other country on earth has abandoned this scam and its early proponents have admitted it was a fraud from the start.


http://tinyurl.com/h3lth33

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:30 AM (vvmPQ)

422 In case you missed this yesterday afternoon Obama and his corrupt collection of goons in the DOJ have weighed in on the NC bathroom law with blatantly illegal threats.


A North Carolina law limiting protections to LGBT people violates federal civil rights laws and can't be enforced, the U.S. Justice Department said Wednesday, putting the state on notice that it is in danger of being sued and losing hundreds of millions of dollars in federal funding.


And it looks like AP hasn't even read the law or is simply doing their normal liberal crap and lying about it. The law does not limit gay rights at all unless there is some hidden right that says men can use women's bathrooms. As I say yesterday, if I was the Governor of NC I would tell Obama and his corrupt AG to piss up a rope and two can play at the game of withholding money. He can freeze all payments from NC to the federal government which would most likely amount to billions.


My copy of the Constitution says the federal government has zero authority to dictate bathroom policy to the States and contrary to the lying assholes in the corrupt Obamanite regime, the Civil Rights act has NOTHING in that makes gays protected specie. But they have been trying to get it in there since 1975 and congress has rightfully opposed this, even when Democrats had control.


http://tinyurl.com/j2poc56

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:30 AM (vvmPQ)

423 Meanwhile the TX AG has sent a letter to Target asking them formally how they plan on protecting women and children in the bathrooms. In bowing to the Gaystapo Target has created a monster and it is biting large chunks out of their ass.


http://tinyurl.com/hkafjvd

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:30 AM (vvmPQ)

424 CA has passed a law which Brown approved that raises the legal age to buy tobacco in CA to 21. This at the same time that a bill that legalizes marijuana is being debated and it will probably pass. Dope good, nicotine bad.


http://tinyurl.com/jncvm6c

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:31 AM (vvmPQ)

425 Another large clothing retailer is filing for bankruptcy and closing stores in this massively good Obamaconamy.


http://tinyurl.com/jpvd66p

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:31 AM (vvmPQ)

426 The SC Girl Scout organization is firing off at a discount store that bought a bunch of girl scout cookies from the bakery that makes them and is selling them at a 90% discount to unload them while still fresh. I have no sympathy for the SC girl scout organization.


http://tinyurl.com/zu9386j

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:31 AM (vvmPQ)

427 I was surprised to see Evan Stone on the list. The name didn't ring a bell but he's quite recognizable from Cinemax. Considering how little most men in hetero porn are paid, his financial standing is more impressive than most of the women. Not bad considering he seems to have a pretty good time doing goofy characters.

Posted by: Epobirs at May 05, 2016 05:31 AM (IdCqF)

428 Michael Savage "savages" Obama saying he will sabotage the economy on the way out if Scankles loses to Trump. I am no fan of Savage I consider him a rabble rouser. And in this instance my opinion, which is shared by a number of economists, is that Obama has already killed the economy. He can not kill that which is already dead.


http://tinyurl.com/zrg8tj8

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:31 AM (vvmPQ)

429 Iran threatens to close the Straights of Hormuz to the US. The last time they tried to do that they lost a major portion of their Navy to the US 7th fleet. But they know Obama is in charge right now. He has made a "deal".


http://tinyurl.com/z8nhhxa

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:32 AM (vvmPQ)

430 And Putin is rattling his saber at Obama again.


http://tinyurl.com/j5c9fhg

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:32 AM (vvmPQ)

431 Cat owner in PA is genuinely upset because a cop shot her cat who appeared to be severely injured to the cop. The cat was not as it turns out. Stupid neighbor call the cops when she saw the cat instead of contacting the woman next door who owned the cat.


http://tinyurl.com/hcfswz3

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:32 AM (vvmPQ)

432 CNN is now admitting that white males have born the brunt of this failed Obama economy. Of course they do not admit that they had a major role in making it so. And they lay the blame on everything from A to Z except Obama, Democrats, and the MFM who protect them.


http://tinyurl.com/gluxsbj

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:32 AM (vvmPQ)

433 The Daily Caller reviews Al Bore's lying propaganda film "An Inconvenient Truth" on its upcoming tenth anniversary. It was a pack of lies then and it is a pack of lies now. All of the predictions in the film, like all other doom predictions, have not panned out. But you will never hear that from the Democrat or their lackeys in the MFM.


http://tinyurl.com/j7zvmtv

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:33 AM (vvmPQ)

434 Yes, the WWII vets are slowly disappearing. Here the oldest WWII vet, and the oldest living man in the US, has died at age 110.


http://tinyurl.com/juohooj

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:33 AM (vvmPQ)

435 The corrupt DOJ will no longer call felons "felons", they are coming up with a host of new touchy-feely PC names for them.


http://tinyurl.com/je5m95j

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:33 AM (vvmPQ)

436 DeCommio doesn't want New Yorkers to eat at Chic-fil-A.


http://tinyurl.com/jrysrsr

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:33 AM (vvmPQ)

437 ederal Judge says Scankles may be called to testify in her illegal e-mail case. I'm sure she will do her normal foot-dragging strategy (and get away with it).


http://tinyurl.com/jmc97cc

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:34 AM (vvmPQ)

438
Obama goes to Flint, MI and promises them federal money to combat their Democrat screw-ups.


http://tinyurl.com/z3f3x6g

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:34 AM (vvmPQ)

439 CT has passed yet another illegal gun control law. Why does anyone continue to live in this commie shithole?


http://tinyurl.com/gm2lk84

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:34 AM (vvmPQ)

440 Great Britain says it will take in more of those fake Syrian refuges. Don't they already have enough problems with the muzzies they already have? This is insane.


http://tinyurl.com/zeh8jhx

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:34 AM (vvmPQ)

441 BB tees off on so-called Republican and darling of the NYT David Brooks.


http://tinyurl.com/hvv6csw

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:35 AM (vvmPQ)

442 Guciffer is testifying to the FBI and says that hacking Scankles' illegal server was easy.


http://tinyurl.com/zlfsytd

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:35 AM (vvmPQ)

443 Looks like Trump is already beginning to sell out Republican primary voters with more Democrat-like liberal agenda. There is a reason I never signed on to the Trump bandwagon. LOL, he says he is "different" than most Republicans. On that he is right.


http://tinyurl.com/zqttlyy

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:35 AM (vvmPQ)

444 In a continuation of its effort to encourage eligible immigrants to become U.S. citizens, the Obama administration is proposing adjustments to the immigration benefit fee schedule that would raise the cost of some benefits but reduce naturalization fees for certain low-income immigrants.


Yes, the chocolate ration is being increased again. Obama is pen and inking making it even more easy for illegals to become voting citizens. Calling them low income is easy since all of them are low income.


http://tinyurl.com/gnmf8sd

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:35 AM (vvmPQ)

445 Geller says a recent poll shows anti-muzzie sentiment across the board in France.



http://tinyurl.com/gsmmxu7

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:36 AM (vvmPQ)

446 NYT spreading lies about global warming once again.


http://tinyurl.com/hs6np3n

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:36 AM (vvmPQ)

447 More Old Ramirez


(I am probably going to have to quit putting these in soon)


http://tinyurl.com/h76ptub

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:36 AM (vvmPQ)

448 IBD is not very happy with Trump getting the nomination.


With Donald Trump now the certain nominee, Republicans have managed to pick the least reliably conservative candidate out of a field that started with some of the most experienced, dedicated and successful conservatives ever to have thrown their hats into the ring. And they've done so largely because the GOP establishment kept dropping the ball on conservative priorities. Go figure.


At least they are placing the blame squarely where it belongs. Except they do not list the prime reason conservatives rarely get the Republican nomination.


http://tinyurl.com/glsmkyh

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:36 AM (vvmPQ)

449 The Daily Junk (I am considering dropping this once again)


http://tinyurl.com/z6sgeud


That's it for today folks. I will be bailing out shortly for dental appointment.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:37 AM (vvmPQ)

450 Well, stepping out for SSnS may be back for a few min.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:44 AM (vvmPQ)

451 @443

Trumps response

Paraphrasing here, Trump said he was open to doing something with it because he didn't like it. He said he would like to bring jobs back so people are making much more than 15 an hour.

I'm not seeing the problem with this.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois I want mah Weasel! at May 05, 2016 05:48 AM (WVsWD)

452 For you Slap!

Not a done deal. Yet. My bet is at the convention.

http://www.weaselzippers.us/269887-breaking-donald-trump-im-open-to-cruz-as-vp/

Posted by: Tim in Illinois I want mah Weasel! at May 05, 2016 05:57 AM (WVsWD)

453 G'morning, all

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 05, 2016 05:59 AM (ptqRm)

454 It's a shame that the DoJ can't seem to find it within itself to determine if Sanctuary City status is in violation of any sort of Federal law.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 05, 2016 06:00 AM (ptqRm)

455 "It's a shame that the DoJ can't seem to find it within itself to determine if Sanctuary City status is in violation of any sort of Federal law.'

It's a shame that the repub controlled Congress refuses to remember that they control the budget for the DoJ.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois I want mah Weasel! at May 05, 2016 06:02 AM (WVsWD)

456 He can not kill that which is already dead.


http://tinyurl.com/zrg8tj8



Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:31 AM (vvmPQ)


Exactly. Once the gov't stops cooking the books and posts the real numbers, the shit will hit the fan.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 05, 2016 06:05 AM (J+mig)

457 Michael Savage "savages" Obama saying he will
sabotage the economy on the way out if Scankles loses to Trump. I am no
fan of Savage I consider him a rabble rouser. And in this instance my
opinion, which is shared by a number of economists, is that Obama has
already killed the economy. He can not kill that which is already dead.


http://tinyurl.com/zrg8tj8



Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:31 AM (vvmPQ)


Considering how fucked up the Obamaconomy is now, how would we know he sabotaged it further? Through tweets, I'm guessing.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 05, 2016 06:08 AM (vRKfn)

458 451 Paraphrasing here, Trump said he was open to doing
something with it because he didn't like it. He said he would like to
bring jobs back so people are making much more than 15 an hour.



I'm not seeing the problem with this.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois I want mah Weasel! at May 05, 2016 05:48 AM (WVsWD)

Did you see the part where he said he had no problem with a $15/hr min wage? The he tries to speak out the other side of his mouth. You can NOT trust this man. He has more flip-flops than a pancake cook at IHOP.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 06:14 AM (vvmPQ)

459 456 Exactly. Once the gov't stops cooking the books and posts the real numbers, the shit will hit the fan.


Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 05, 2016 06:05 AM (J+mig)


The Zombie economy LIVES!!!

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 06:16 AM (vvmPQ)

460 Did you see the part where he said he had no problem with a $15/hr min wage? The he tries to speak out the other side of his mouth. You can NOT trust this man. He has more flip-flops than a pancake cook at IHOP.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 06:14 AM (vvmPQ)

I guess I did. Can you point out to me where he said that?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois I want mah Weasel! at May 05, 2016 06:16 AM (WVsWD)

461 I will admit to being a bit dense at times but I'm reading and re reading this article and I am not seeing where Trump said he had no problem with a 15 minimum.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois Help! at May 05, 2016 06:19 AM (WVsWD)

462 Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump said that you cant live on the current federal minimum wage of $7.25-an-hour and that he was looking at that, because Im very different from most Republicans. I mean, you have to have something that you can live on during an interview broadcast on Wednesdays Situation Room on CNN.



He responded, No, and Im actually looking at that, because Im very different from most Republicans. I mean, you have to have something that you can live on, but what I'm really looking to do, is get people great jobs so they make much more money than that, so they make much money, more money than the $15. Now, if you start playing around too much with the lower level, the lower level number, you're not going to be competitive.


Basically he says yes then no, classic BS answer the press let him get away with.

When asked what he would recommend as a federal minimum wage, Trump stated, Im looking at it.



That sounds to me like if he hasnt already caved he is just about ready to.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 06:24 AM (vvmPQ)

463 Sorry, had to remove every GD bit of punctuation from quote before the BS 500 error would be satisfied.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 06:25 AM (vvmPQ)

464 I will admit to being a bit dense at times but I'm
reading and re reading this article and I am not seeing where Trump said
he had no problem with a 15 minimum.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois Help! at May 05, 2016 06:19 AM (WVsWD)


That's because he didn't.

But, you know, Trump's evil, blah blah blah. Go Hillary!

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 05, 2016 06:26 AM (vRKfn)

465 That's because he didn't.

But, you know, Trump's evil, blah blah blah. Go Hillary!


Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 05, 2016 06:26 AM (vRKfn)

BS, and I have never been for this turd or Cruz.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 06:27 AM (vvmPQ)

466 Okey dokey. Won't bother you any more about it.

March on.



Posted by: Tim in Illinois at May 05, 2016 06:29 AM (WVsWD)

467 Sorry, had to remove every GD bit of punctuation from quote before the BS 500 error would be satisfied.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party



Much of my commenting life is spent in Redd Ink Cherry Pi hell.

Morning and thanks Vic!

Posted by: Mortimer at May 05, 2016 06:32 AM (Gwldq)

468 Time for me to go. Probably will not be back as after dentist I need to mow the weeds before it starts raining again. And it looks like it could start at any time.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 06:32 AM (vvmPQ)

469 "According to other women - and is as the article explains girl-pretty but not necessarily boy-pretty."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Well, I'm a boy and I'm pretty goddam sure Jennifer Aniston is absolutely, 100% "boy pretty". If you disagree, you need your head examined.

Posted by: deadrody at May 05, 2016 06:36 AM (W15tP)

470 BS, and I have never been for this turd or Cruz.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 06:27 AM (vvmPQ)


I didn't vote for either of them in my primary, (PA). Cruz lost me with his Obamatrade boosterism, and Trump lost me because he's just weird. But he's the nominee, unless the GOPe has more tricks up his sleeve, and he'll get my vote in November.
The media, being the media, and in the tank for Hillary anyway, have been throwing gotcha questions at the man since day one...we should all know this, it's the same trick they pull every time....and so far, it won him the nominee, so maybe people are catching on.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 05, 2016 06:39 AM (vRKfn)

471 ""Aniston's gorgeous spirit appealed to us as well. Seeing that Jen was able to stay strong and keep believing in love after Brad Pitt left her for Angelina Jolie helped me to do the same when my second husband left me after only six years of marriage and eight years of my endless criticism.""
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Oh, that's rich. I'm quite sure there are - literally - millions and millions of reasons why Aniston was able to get over Brad Pitt that you couldn't possibly relate to. But if that gives you strength in some bizarre way, great.

Posted by: deadrody at May 05, 2016 06:39 AM (W15tP)

472 I don't see the advantage to Trump of making Cruz his VP. Texas is already going to vote for him, Cruz doesn't really bring a group of friends in the Congress that Trump doesn't already have better relations with and they won't get along. The minute Trump goes full retard, five minutes into his term probably, Cruz will resign in disgust.

It won't be Cruz.

Posted by: MTF at May 05, 2016 06:44 AM (S44lC)

473 The cops offer a put down your neighbors cat service? Who knew.

Posted by: MTF at May 05, 2016 06:49 AM (S44lC)

474 Ted Cruz. Supposedly the most hated man in Congress.

Impeachment insurance if it ever existed.

Count on it Ted Cruz will be Vice President.

Then President then hopefully a Supreme Court Justice. If he is actually the TruCon he makes himself out to be.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at May 05, 2016 06:51 AM (WVsWD)

475 443 Looks like Trump is already beginning to sell out Republican primary voters with more Democrat-like liberal agenda. There is a reason I never signed on to the Trump bandwagon. LOL, he says he is "different" than most Republicans. On that he is right.


Like Obama, everything Trump says has an expiration date.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 05, 2016 06:53 AM (vZuaP)

476 423 In bowing to the Gaystapo Target has created a monster and it is biting large chunks out of their ass.
----------------------------------------------------

CNBC, the DNC business network, wrote a piece on this just yesterday quoting a bunch of analysts saying this "will blow over" and praising Target.

I bet Target doesn't agree with that nice propaganda sentiment and is desperately trying to figure out a face-saving gesture.

Posted by: MTF at May 05, 2016 06:55 AM (S44lC)

477 that story on David Brooks is marvelous

Posted by: tmitsss at May 05, 2016 06:55 AM (sUvQQ)

478 Like Obama, everything Trump says has an expiration date.
-----------------------------------------------

TFG2.

Like a bad Hollywood remake.

Posted by: MTF at May 05, 2016 06:56 AM (S44lC)

479 Walmart should put up signs on the Ladies Room Doors.

"Penis free zone"

And maybe health clubs could do the same at their ladies shower and locker facilities.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 05, 2016 07:02 AM (ptqRm)

480 477 that story on David Brooks is marvelous
..........
Triggly Brooks was nuked...a must read.

Posted by: Tyler Mason at May 05, 2016 07:02 AM (IL4AQ)

481 Best wishes to Maet on his trip. We will miss you but hope you and your family enjoy your three weeks of tea ceremonies, hiking Fuji and examining war preparations, errr....industrial facilities.

Posted by: MTF at May 05, 2016 07:03 AM (S44lC)

482 I bet Target doesn't agree with that nice propaganda sentiment and is desperately trying to figure out a face-saving gesture.

Posted by: MTF at May 05, 2016 06:55 AM (S44lC)


Their stock dropped 4.2 percent after making that boneheaded move. This amazes me...all they had to do was nothing. They didn't have to say, or do anything. All they had to do was keep selling stuff. Instead, they decided to insert themselves in to the ongoing potty fiasco, and now they're paying for it.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 05, 2016 07:06 AM (vRKfn)

483 Trump Superfan Ghost of Kari seemed to think I was suffering from TDS when I predicted yesterday that Trump would suggest a $16 minimum wage but exempt certain sectors that would be crushed by it. Like hotels and golf courses.

One day later and we're almost there.

Posted by: mugiwara at May 05, 2016 07:07 AM (CFl8c)

484 "and now they're paying for it. "

As a family, we have not spent a dime in Target since the Free Range Bathroom policy was put into effect.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 05, 2016 07:07 AM (ptqRm)

485 It goes without saying that airports, bus stations, city halls and all government facilities are de facto already in Target's camp. What Target needs is for the Gaystapo to go after other businesses who haven't publically embraced the coed bathroom idea, making it a semi-requirement of opening your business every morning. Then the Target protest will seem like a mere drop in the ocean.

Maybe what these consumers need to do is communicate that Target either changes this policy by a date certain or loses these customers forever, regardless of what happens on the coed bathroom rule. Get organized and amp up the pressure.

Posted by: MTF at May 05, 2016 07:10 AM (S44lC)

486 As a family, we have not spent a dime in Target since the Free Range Bathroom policy was put into effect.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 05, 2016 07:07 AM (ptqRm)


My only regret is that I don't have a Target anywhere near me that I can refuse to shop at. My choices are limited to Walmart, or Walmart.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 05, 2016 07:11 AM (vRKfn)

487 It would be a waste for Cruz to be VP. He's better off being a PITA in the Senate shining light on their bullshit.
Being part of a Trump administration seems higher risk/lower reward to me. YMMV.

Posted by: jsg at May 05, 2016 07:12 AM (kiIjw)

488 On this day in 1925 a warrant was served on John T. Scopes for teaching
evolution in violation of the Butler Act. This started the famous Scopes
trial in TN portrayed by the movie Inherent the Wind. The Smithsonian
magazine had a very interesting article about this event. It turns out
that everything we have heard about this trial and that abomination of a
movie was BS.


Well, yeah. I thought that was common knowledge.

Posted by: Grey Fox at May 05, 2016 07:13 AM (bZ7mE)

489 I actually have decided to not demand anything of Target.

To have a Free Range Bathroom policy for predators is within their right.

I simply walk away.

Maybe not as effective as shouting and demanding.

But I'm OK with it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 05, 2016 07:15 AM (ptqRm)

490 I never shop at Target, but I do have a decades-old gift card with no expiration date. Maybe I should go spend it, since they already have the money.

Posted by: Grey Fox at May 05, 2016 07:17 AM (bZ7mE)

491 If its not too late, maybe somebody who's up on there anime will tell me what that GIF is on the top of the page. Is that a buskittuh?

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 05, 2016 07:19 AM (vZuaP)

492 Ok, never mind. I looked it up. Its literally a Cat Bus.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 05, 2016 07:21 AM (vZuaP)

493 491
If its not too late, maybe somebody who's up on there anime will tell me
what that GIF is on the top of the page. Is that a buskittuh?
----

That's from a movie called My Neighbor Totoro. Kind of a cute flick my daughter really loves. And yes it's a cat bus. Very handy.

Posted by: FellowAmerican at May 05, 2016 07:23 AM (xQWR8)

494 I have my dollars. I will not just 'deal with it', as Target apparently thinks I should. And I'm telling everyone I know. Deal with that,Target. It's the only thing they truly care about.

Posted by: jsg at May 05, 2016 07:26 AM (kiIjw)

495 With the impending Clinton- Trump showdown we have arrived at a situation where whoever wins, half the country will absolutely not be able to
accept the results.Of course this would have happened no matter who the
Repubs. nominated but Trump is really driving the left even more crazy than usual. And the left
could not have found a better way to enrage conservatives that select Hillary.

So what happens after the election? It will be interesting times, to say the least.

Posted by: Ripley at May 05, 2016 07:28 AM (1BQGO)

496 "So what happens after the election? It will be interesting times, to say the least."


Trump pardons Hillary?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 05, 2016 07:29 AM (ptqRm)

497 Morning all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 05, 2016 07:30 AM (V/InG)

498 >>>>>DeCommio doesn't want New Yorkers to eat at Chic-fil-A.
.
.
.
.
.So a chicken sandwich place scares the crap out of the Mayor of NYC because the owner is a Christian?

Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 05, 2016 07:32 AM (iONHu)

499 An official with the Department of Justice said the agency will no longer call people felons or convicts after they are released from prison because it is too hard on them emotionally.

Give me a fuckin break

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 05, 2016 07:33 AM (V/InG)

500 "An official with the Department of Justice said the agency will no
longer call people felons or convicts after they are released from
prison because it is too hard on them emotionally."

At this rate, Obama will us up all the insane ideas of the left. What will he leave for Hillary? Universal day care? What fun is that for a Social Jutoce Warrior?

Posted by: Ripley at May 05, 2016 07:37 AM (1BQGO)

501 DeCommio doesn't want New Yorkers to eat at Chic-fil-A.


http://tinyurl.com/jrysrsr

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:33 AM (vvmPQ)



You would think that turd has real and bigger issues to take care of. But demonizing businesses or people who don't follow the agenda is priority one. I wonder what would happen if a mayor said the same about Target?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 05, 2016 07:38 AM (45oDG)

502 DeCommio doesn't want New Yorkers to eat at Chic-fil-A.


http://tinyurl.com/jrysrsr

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 05, 2016 05:33 AM (vvmPQ)


They should sue him for slander

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 05, 2016 07:43 AM (V/InG)

503 So a chicken sandwich place scares the crap out of the Mayor of NYC because the owner is a Christian?

Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.


#NewYorkValues

Posted by: Grey Fox at May 05, 2016 07:44 AM (bZ7mE)

504 It wasn't Republican voters, GOPe, it was you. Remember that night in the General Election you came down to my dressing room and you said, "Kid, this ain't your night. We're going for the price on Barry 0Bola." You remember that? "This ain't your night"! My night! I coulda taken 0Bola apart! So what happens? He gets the POTUS outdoors on the White House lawn and what do I get? A one-way ticket to Palooka-ville! You was my Party, GOPe, you shoulda looked out for me a little bit. You shoulda taken care of me just a little bit so I wouldn't have to take them dives for the short-end money.

Posted by: Terry Malloy/Mitt Romney/John McCain at May 05, 2016 07:44 AM (lmPMy)

505 What Target needs is for the Gaystapo to go after
other businesses who haven't publically embraced the coed bathroom idea,
making it a semi-requirement of opening your business every morning...

..Get
organized and amp up the pressure.

Posted by: MTF at May 05, 2016 07:10 AM (S44lC)

WE got this.

Posted by: DOJ at May 05, 2016 07:45 AM (jIgQw)

506 This DOJ/bathroom could may be the start of something.

Fed's don't send $$$ to NC.

McCrory should say, fine. No NC $$$ go to DC.

Posted by: Golfman at May 05, 2016 07:47 AM (jIgQw)

507 De Blasio, yooo think we cows are as eazy to scrooo as that chik-n you democrats keep fooooooo-king? Maybe yoooooo should keep fooooooo-king the chicken, while we and the rest of America keep eating Moooooooor chicken, eh?

Our cow-patties are mooooor intelligent than Democrats......

Posted by: Chic-Fil-A Cows at May 05, 2016 07:51 AM (lmPMy)

508 McCrory should say, fine. No NC $$$ go to DC.


Posted by: Golfman at May 05, 2016 07:47 AM (jIgQw)


The feds are using money collected from NC, to coerce NC to do things the way the DoJ wants. The DoJ 'decided', and without a single peep from Congress, the DoJ imposes. I'm with you, and Vic...it'd be nice to see NC stand up to those bullies, and tell them to stuff it.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 05, 2016 07:52 AM (vRKfn)

509 Posted by: Chic-Fil-A Cows at May 05, 2016 07:51 AM (lmPMy)

Lol

Thanks. I needed the laugh.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at May 05, 2016 07:53 AM (WVsWD)

510 Now that idiot Trump is talking about minimum wage??? A real conservative would say, "it's not the governments job to make wage levels in private businesses. Period."

You'd think as a businessman he's know that.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 05, 2016 07:53 AM (U+nHb)

511
McCrory should say, fine. No NC $$$ go to DC.


Posted by: Golfman at May 05, 2016 07:47 AM (jIgQw)

On a practical matter, how would NC do something like that?

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 05, 2016 07:54 AM (uAvJJ)

512 >>>So what happens after the election? It will be interesting times, to say the least.
Posted by: Ripley at May 05, 2016 07:28 AM (1BQGO)

Hi, there!

Posted by: Manassas Junction at May 05, 2016 07:55 AM (lmPMy)

513 McCrory should say, fine. No NC $$$ go to DC.

Can't do that. Think of the services we all get from DC, keeping us safe from the world's riff-raff!

Posted by: t-bird at May 05, 2016 07:55 AM (OLNwX)

514 Well, I'm a boy and I'm pretty goddam sure Jennifer Aniston is absolutely, 100% "boy pretty". If you disagree, you need your head examined.


Yep. Or go ahead and admit to your parents that you're gay.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at May 05, 2016 07:55 AM (rwI+c)

515 Posted by: Chic-Fil-A Cows at May 05, 2016 07:51 AM (lmPMy)

I love this place.

Posted by: Golfman at May 05, 2016 07:56 AM (jIgQw)

516 You'd think as a businessman he's know that.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 05, 2016 07:53 AM (U+nHb)

Oh no no no, you see, he's a "different kind of Republican" dontchaknow
If *any* Republican had said they are "open" to raising the minimum wage, everyone here would have denounced that R as a RINO collaborator of the left.
But because it's Donald, then he's of course playing some 9-dimensional chess game, or something. Uh-huh.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 05, 2016 07:56 AM (uAvJJ)

517 An Army captain deployed to Kuwait has sued President Obama because he believes the war against the Islamic State terror group is illegal, reigniting a long-simmering issue between the president and Congress.


LMAO

Sounds a ploy to get out of the Military or he is bat shit crazy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 05, 2016 07:57 AM (V/InG)

518 The Obama adminisatration, which has ignored rule of law countless times over the apocalyptic past seven years, demands North Carolina obey a law which doesn't exist. Par for the course.

When I grew up in the 70s I went to a public school that didn't serve school lunches. We either brought our own or went home for lunch. The school was about 95% white, as was the neighborhood. Went back a couple of years ago. Now they serve free or reduced price lunches to 95% of the school. The school is now 95% hispanic and the neighborhood is 66% hispanic.

Posted by: CrustyB at May 05, 2016 07:57 AM (Hnglq)

519 Well the hate trump/support hillary crowd is out early today

I wonder if they have lawn signs yet?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 05, 2016 07:58 AM (V/InG)

520 Rick Snyder, governor of Michigan, is on Morning Joe thanking Obama for coming to Michigan yesterday to feed him a shit sandwich.

He's one of those republicans who doesn't embarrass Ace.

Posted by: jwest at May 05, 2016 07:58 AM (Zs4uk)

521 "And the left
could not have found a better way to enrage conservatives that select Hillary."

Except that a big part of the left wants Bernie, not Hillary and their party has made it clear that they're going to get Hill no matter what.

We're assuming that the Berniebots will fall into line like good little sheep and vote Hill in November because Scaaarry Republican. Perhaps most will - but not all. We are already seeing leftists turning on each other. How many will in Nov? Will there be anti-Hill street protests at the Dem convention? Who knows? It'll be interesting.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 05, 2016 07:58 AM (P8951)

522 Can't do that. Think of the services we all get from DC, keeping us safe from the world's riff-raff!

Posted by: t-bird at May 05, 2016 07:55 AM (OLNwX)

That's right. EBT is a USDA program.
Oh, wait. That's the trick. Let POTUS stop the cash and then NC can say he's letting the chidrrenns starve.

Posted by: Golfman at May 05, 2016 07:58 AM (jIgQw)

523 I should probably read up to discover what money the Feds are threatening to cut off. The SC has ruled several times, fwiw, that they cannot cut off unrelated spending, and I was unaware that bathroom maintenance was a Federal line item.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at May 05, 2016 07:59 AM (rwI+c)

524 Nearly three years after a New Hampshire high school refused a Marines request to wear his uniform instead of a cap and gown to graduation, the state passed a law making sure service members are never treated that way again.

On Monday, New Hampshire Gov. Maggie Hassan signed Brandons Law, which ensures that all service members have the right to wear their uniforms at high school graduation.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 05, 2016 07:59 AM (V/InG)

525 On a practical matter, how would NC do something like that?


Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 05, 2016 07:54 AM (uAvJJ)


I don't know if it's possible. I know they can elect not to receive money from the feds for not toeing the PC line...but like the national 55 MPH speed limit, which was forced on the states through threats of withholding federal highway funds, NC will probably be forced by economic realities to cave.
I doubt it's legal for them to withhold taxes collected for the Feds....but since tax revenue is collected at the state level, maybe they could stop it that way?

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 05, 2016 07:59 AM (vRKfn)

526 Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 05, 2016 07:58 AM (V/InG)

I'm in the depression stage right now.

At some point, I'll accept it whether I want to or not.

Posted by: Golfman at May 05, 2016 08:00 AM (jIgQw)

527 Maybe if Rick Snyder had punched Obama in the mouth, jwest would say he is fighting back hard enough now. Or maybe Rick Snyder should start comparing his dick size to Obama's or something.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 05, 2016 08:01 AM (uAvJJ)

528 >>>>
I should probably read up to discover what money the Feds are
threatening to cut off. The SC has ruled several times, fwiw, that they
cannot cut off unrelated spending, and I was unaware that bathroom
maintenance was a Federal line item.
.
.
.
.They can't cut off any funding, it's all BS political bluster by obama to try and get SC to back down.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 05, 2016 08:01 AM (iONHu)

529 On a practical matter, how would NC do something like that?


No state enforcement of federal tax laws is the only thing that comes to mind.

Posted by: Grey Fox at May 05, 2016 08:01 AM (bZ7mE)

530 Posted by: Terry Malloy/Mitt Romney/John McCain at May 05, 2016 07:44 AM (lmPMy)

*golf clap*

Posted by: rickl at May 05, 2016 08:01 AM (sdi6R)

531 I doubt it's legal for them to withhold taxes
collected for the Feds....but since tax revenue is collected at the
state level, maybe they could stop it that way?


Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 05, 2016 07:59 AM (vRKfn)

Which federal taxes are collected at the state level?
The federal income tax is collected at the individual level, for instance

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 05, 2016 08:02 AM (uAvJJ)

532 520 Rick Snyder, governor of Michigan, is on Morning Joe thanking Obama for coming to Michigan yesterday to feed him a shit sandwich.

He's one of those republicans who doesn't embarrass Ace.

Posted by: jwest at May 05, 2016 07:58 AM (Zs4uk)

You know that, huh?

I somehow missed the post where ace praised Republicans who groveled before Dems. As I recall, ace was pretty brutal toward Rubio for the Gang of 8 crap.

But you apparently know something about him that I don't.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 05, 2016 08:03 AM (P8951)

533 On a practical matter, how would NC do something like that?


Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 05, 2016 07:54 AM (uAvJJ)

I don't know. But we should sure try. Gas/ fuel taxes. Excise tax.

Posted by: Golfman at May 05, 2016 08:03 AM (jIgQw)

534 Here's a good vid of idiots at a Commie Day protest.

Last guy thinks he has a tracking device in his eyeball.

http://tinyurl.com/hsaretx

Posted by: jsg at May 05, 2016 08:04 AM (gs8be)

535 Which federal taxes are collected at the state level?
The federal income tax is collected at the individual level, for instance


Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 05, 2016 08:02 AM (uAvJJ)


I could be wrong....but it was my understanding most taxes were collected by the states, and the Federal share was passed on to DC. Gas taxes, for instance. Consumer pays whatever the pump says they owe, the store takes it's cut, and passes the rest to the state, which takes it's cut, and passes the rest on to DC?

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 05, 2016 08:04 AM (vRKfn)

536 529 On a practical matter, how would NC do something like that?


No state enforcement of federal tax laws is the only thing that comes to mind.
Posted by: Grey Fox

Tax Haven!!! Boom Town Baby

No local cooperation with Federal authorities on taxation matters.

Posted by: Jean at May 05, 2016 08:05 AM (cXiMR)

537 527 Maybe if Rick Snyder had punched Obama in the mouth, jwest would say he is fighting back hard enough now.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 05, 2016 08:01 AM (uAvJJ)


Politically, punching Obama would have been the best way to handle it.

Snyder has damaged the republican party to an extent that's hard to measure now - not for anything he did wrong, but for being a weak, limp dicked simpering asshole.

Posted by: jwest at May 05, 2016 08:05 AM (Zs4uk)

538 >>>>>I should probably read up to discover what money the Feds are

threatening to cut off. The SC has ruled several times, fwiw, that they

cannot cut off unrelated spending, and I was unaware that bathroom

maintenance was a Federal line item.
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.They can't cut off any funding, it's all BS political bluster by obama to try and get SC to back down.
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They are talking about cutting off all school funding. From what little I just read DOJ says it violates the civil rights of school kids by not being allowed to use the bathroom/locker room of choice for any child.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 05, 2016 08:05 AM (iONHu)

539 Which begs the issue -- why is there any Federal spending on local schools?

Posted by: Jean at May 05, 2016 08:08 AM (cXiMR)

540 Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 05, 2016 08:01 AM (uAvJJ)

No, what Synder was did was mortifying and exactly the sort of thing that makes conservatives hate the GOPe. He's groveling. The problem in Flint was caused by Dems, the Dems twisted facts to blame him and he's making it look like he is in fact guilty, instead of fighting back. He's behaving like a pussy.

jwest's mistake is in confusing ace's reaction with yours and imagining that ace is OK with the way Synder has handled this mess.

It's possible to be less than thrilled with both Trump and the spineless Republicans.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 05, 2016 08:09 AM (P8951)

541 Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 05, 2016 07:58 AM (V/InG)

Aint worth wasting ammo or upping your blood pressure over.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at May 05, 2016 08:09 AM (WVsWD)

542 They are talking about cutting off all school funding.

NC could probably get an injunction against that right quick, irreparable harm etc, and wait for a trial on the merits which wouldn't even start until the SCoaMF was out of office.

They need to stand tough..

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at May 05, 2016 08:10 AM (rwI+c)

543
Did you see the part where he said he had no problem with a $15/hr min wage?


510 Now that idiot Trump is talking about minimum wage??? A real conservative would say, "it's not the governments job to make wage levels in private businesses. Period."

You'd think as a businessman he's know that.




Pure (ish) conservatism ran for office in the form of Ted Cruz.

It couldn't get past the primaries.

Our nation basically consists of Wal Martians who exist for their own pleasure, their own interests and their own selfish, piggish desires. They want it now and they want it 'free'.

Conservatism can't win with that mindset. It is wrong to say that there are no patriots left. But we are the shrinking minority.

Hate him personally all you want but what he is doing is purely pragmetic. He is not a businessman right now. He is a politician.
What Trump is doing is rhetorically similar to what every candidate does did in order to win.

"Do you support x or y?"

"I support x and y and whatever people who might vote for me want."

He is not playing to you. Or anybody like you.

Why? Because you are already in the bag. Or you're not.

He can't take giant dump on the minimum wage without losing the votes of at least some percentage of Bernie's more libertarian disaffected millenials.

It's a helluva a lot smarter than , oh I don't know, getting branded as the guy who wants to destroy tampons?

You handle that kind of silly BS by nuking it in the cradle.

Trump/Cruz 2016

Posted by: Mortimer at May 05, 2016 08:10 AM (Gwldq)

544 I don't know. But we should sure try. Gas/ fuel taxes. Excise tax.


Posted by: Golfman at May 05, 2016 08:03 AM (jIgQw)

From what I understand, gas taxes are collected by the individual businesses themselves and then transmitted directly to the feds, without the state government getting involved at all. I don't know how the states could stop that. Pass a law making the state governments the middlemen for all federal tax revenue, and then let the states use tax revenue to the feds as a type of extortion, the same way the feds use funding as extortion on the states?

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 05, 2016 08:11 AM (uAvJJ)

545 Which begs the issue -- why is there any Federal spending on local schools?

Posted by: Jean at May 05, 2016 08:08 AM (cXiMR)



Control, comrade, control

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 05, 2016 08:11 AM (45oDG)

546 Snood

Posted by: Grump928(C) wonders why you didn't come to him like a fucking man at May 05, 2016 08:14 AM (rwI+c)

547 If I could wave a magic wand and make Joe Sixpack get off the sofa and vote for a Randian libertarian I would do it in a heartbeat.

I can't make that happen. And Joe Sixpack just wants his free sh*t to keep rolling in.

Now you are a candidate for office.

What do YOU do?

Posted by: Mortimer at May 05, 2016 08:15 AM (Gwldq)

548 Politically, punching Obama would have been the best way to handle it.


Okay, what do you mean exactly?


I actually agree that he hasn't 'fought back hard enough. But my hunch is that you won't be happy unless he starts engaging in Trump-level juvenile antics.


Guess what, not everyone wants public discourse to be dominated by discussions about whose dick is larger.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 05, 2016 08:16 AM (uAvJJ)

549 It's amazing how one person can be so arrogant that they believe that their own slanted viewpoint represents the opinion of millions.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 05, 2016 08:18 AM (Gwldq)

550
Posted by: Mortimer at May 05, 2016 08:10 AM (Gwldq)

Dude, this is just a long spin attempting to justify the pandering of politicians.
I thought we used to believe around here, even among the pro-Trump segment, that Republicans should not engage in a bidding war with Democrats about how much free shit to give away, because the Democrats will always win that bidding war. Now you are saying "oh sure, if Joe Sixpack wants free shit, the Republicans should totally pander to him, because they aren't going to get his vote otherwise"?

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 05, 2016 08:20 AM (uAvJJ)

551 549
It's amazing how one person can be so arrogant that they believe that
their own slanted viewpoint represents the opinion of millions.


Posted by: Mortimer at May 05, 2016 08:18 AM (Gwldq)

If you're referring to me, I have never claimed to speak for others, I only speak for myself.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 05, 2016 08:21 AM (uAvJJ)

552 On a practical matter, how would NC do something like that?


As a matter of precedent, I believe Camp Lejeune would be involved somehow.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 05, 2016 08:21 AM (tIja6)

553 NC should seize armories and federal installations within the state.

Oh .. wait ..

Posted by: Grump928(C) wonders why you didn't come to him like a fucking man at May 05, 2016 08:23 AM (rwI+c)

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